[00:39] recommendations on software (free/opensource/linux) for monitoring security cameras? supporting PZT and two way audio? [00:42] hanasaki: no such thing [00:43] SpiritHorse: thanks. so what would you recommend for controlling camera over IP ? [00:43] hanasaki: what I do is pull the rtmp feed from the camera with whatever (in my case ffmpeg)... for PTZ I use ONVIF [00:44] thakns. SpiritHorse what software packages do you use for the onvif? anything that has a web interface? [00:44] zoneminder is what is most popular, but will lack audio support and it's a bit overweight [00:46] I use a python module to do onvif, not aware of a web interface frontend but totally possible it exists [00:50] thanks [00:50] sounds like there is no decent linux NVR and security software . SpiritHorse , correct? [00:51] most people are going with zoneminder but it lacks the audio support you're looking for [00:51] but in general, yeah, the options are pretty bad [00:55] how do I get help installing 19.10? could trying to install this release corrupt my windows partition, or make me unable to boot into it? [00:56] is the current LTS simply not compatible with AMD ryzen 7? [00:57] sappheiros: im using 19.04 on my ryzen 3700u. works just fine. [00:57] how do i find whether my ryzen7 is 3700u? [00:57] it's "vega graphics" [00:57] laptop? [00:57] yes [00:58] Screenfetch will show you what it is. [00:58] or just check the specs from when you bought your laptop. [00:59] i only have win10 right now [00:59] i do have 3700u [00:59] but 19.04 wouldn't boot on my laptop: just a black screen [00:59] device manager? [01:00] ?? [01:00] did you install a bootmanager? [01:00] i was using the liveUSB [01:02] Do you get to choose os during boot? [01:04] Or did you simply overwrite your windows partition when you installed ubuntu? [01:05] i can choose between OS, yes. [01:05] however, checking disc for defects results in that same black screen [01:06] So you can boot into ubuntu but not into windows anymore? [01:11] flog, no, this is the problem: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1162746/why-wont-my-hp-envy-x360-laptop-with-ryzen-7-3700u-boot-ubuntu-live-cd [01:12] i guess i will give up trying to use ubuntu until this laptop is supported [01:12] i don't have the time to learn how to do all this [01:13] maybe 19.10 will work if it has the newer kernel, once it's released next month [01:14] Cant say for the hp envy. But i did not have any issues installing 19.04 on my lenovo T495 which has similar specs to the one in the link you posted. [01:30] Hello everyone.I need some help please. [01:30] When I execute "apttitude upgrade" in 16.04 there is an error displayed:insserv: There is a loop between service plymouth and urandom if started. [01:30] I'm a newbie and what should I do now? [01:32] Qinglan: pastebin: sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ; sudo apt upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999" so we see the errors incontext. [01:33] <^Peter^> Qinglan I do not know, but apttitude is spelt aptitude [01:34] Bashing-om: I should execute these command? [01:34] sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 [01:34] sudo apt upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 === zbenjamin is now known as Guest41395 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:34] ^Peter^: My mistake. [01:34] <^Peter^> So perhaps you invoked a non existent command ? [01:35] ^Peter^: Just in here. [01:35] <^Peter^> k [01:35] Qinglan: Run those cpommands inyour terminal, the result is a URL - pass the links back here. [01:35] ^Peter^: Or it should not execute. [01:40] !info cups-common xenial | Qinglan [01:40] Qinglan: cups-common (source: cups): Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - common files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.3-4ubuntu0.10 (xenial), package size 130 kB, installed size 1349 kB [01:42] Bashing-om: sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 [01:42] https://termbin.com/bvot [01:42] sudo apt upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 [01:42] https://termbin.com/iq5y [01:42] sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 [01:42] https://termbin.com/xdi6 [01:44] ubottu: How can I do to resolve the Cups version conflics? [01:44] Qinglan: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [01:44] Qinglan: "295 not upgraded." - so Yes, continue with the updates :) [01:46] Bashing-om: It's halted on [01:46] "dpkg: error processing package udev (--configure): [01:46] dependency problems - leaving unconfigured [01:46] dpkg: dependency problems prevent processing triggers for systemd: [01:46] systemd depends on util-linux (>= 2.27.1); however: [01:46] Package util-linux is not configured yet." [01:47] Qinglan: Let it tun until completed and the system returns to prompt . [01:50] use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and all things will fix [01:51] !paste | Qinglan [01:51] Qinglan: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [01:52] why is gedit not showing all files in a directory when using file browser? [01:53] ubottu: Are you realy a robot? [01:53] Qinglan: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [01:55] Hello. Is this a good place to ask about OpenVPN? [01:55] I can't seem to get it working through PAM where I have created a new user with adduser and a new password with passwd. [01:56] I'm not sure if the problem is ubuntu or the problem is openvpn [01:56] Bashing-om: Executed command sudo apt-get -f install [01:56] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2wxCP2QBQT/ [01:59] OerHeks: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 [01:59] https://termbin.com/ymkt [01:59] OerHeks: Still same problem [02:01] so, somthing is holding back, when is the last time you rebooted? [02:01] as cups-client is @ 0.10 now for example https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/cups-client [02:01] old lists.. [02:02] Qinglan: Is this a Virtual Machine or bare metal install ? [02:02] maybe there is a fresh installed kernel waiting to be deployed, so new dependencies can be build, seen that before [02:03] Bashing-om: Bare metal install [02:04] OerHeks: The problem happened after I installed a software named IDL [02:05] OerHeks: That's a "make install" [02:05] oh, any url we can read about this 'idl'? [02:06] not worth mentioning in the first place, let us guess .. so you lost my google fu [02:09] OerHeks: There is a simple introduction at https://udeploy.udel.edu/software/enviidl/ [02:13] well, you need to seek their support, it is not a free download [02:23] hi, how do i run a program from terminal without it running in a terminal window? (so that i can close the terminal and the program continues) ? [02:26] MrPlayfair: ' & disown ' . [02:26] thanks a lot [02:30] what does disown do? [02:33] stops it running in the terminal [02:34] um1b0zu: Simply put it dis-connects from the parent process and allow that child to continue when the parent is no longer there. [02:38] <[rg]> how is ubuntu qualcom support? [03:18] Is there a way to have Ubuntu 18.04 Desktop boot to terminal instead?? === DarkTrick_ is now known as DarkTrick [03:21] <[rg]> dcypher, just switch tty's [03:22] Will that kill all the Desktop processes? I want to save as much processing power as possible, switching to Desktop mode only when needed [03:23] dcypher, boot with the kernel option: systemd.unit=multi-user.target [03:24] akemlenovo_: Thanks.... I'll give that a try! [03:24] Np. [03:28] <[rg]> akemlenovo_, how will he get to desktop... [03:28] <[rg]> it will be the same after the session is started [03:28] <[rg]> may as well just switch ttys [03:29] [rg], I thought he wanted console only. [03:29] <[rg]> ah [03:30] <[rg]> will have to background process too, before switching [03:30] <[rg]> sounds useless [03:32] <[rg]> akemlenovo_, are you an ubuntu dev? [03:33] [rg], No. [03:34] <[rg]> ok === Gallomimia_ is now known as Gallomimia === richardpeters is now known as denningsrogue [05:31] Hi, I keep getting this email every day from my Ubuntu machine: 2019-09-14 16:01:33 1i9EEf-002GnV-SY Failed to create spool file /var/spool/exim4//input//1i9EEf-002GnV-SY-D: Read-only file system [05:32] However I haven't toutched the permission of /var/spool/exim4/. I'm wondering how I can fix this? [05:35] CryptoSiD: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/1769 [05:36] CryptoSiD: verify with "mount" if the partition it's located on is indeed mounted read-only. [05:37] I have no special partition for /var/, only one partition for / and it's not read-only [05:37] not sure what happened but it was working fine some weeks ago and i started received that kind of email every night [05:40] /dev/sda4 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime) [05:44] Is it normal to have 2 // before and after the input folder? [06:01] hi folks [06:01] if blueproximity project now dead? [06:02] anything tat could be use as sucsessor? [06:21] cryptodan_mobile: check dmesg, read only filesystem can happen if filesystem corruption is detected [06:21] Why do I need to register my device with Canonical? -> https://ubuntu.com/download/iot/raspberry-pi-2-3 [06:22] they request an Ubuntu SSO account [06:23] How would I view samba shares in 18.04 [06:26] Hi, how can I send a message to the ubuntu members responsible for wallpapers? [06:26] the step « account Ubuntu SSO » is mandatory?, if yes, why? [06:28] LuckyMan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork [06:28] they should create an ello account to publicize the wallpaper contests [06:28] geirha, thanks! [06:32] when will 19.10 be out? [06:44] i'll come back later, if you have an answer to provide me, i'll read you, bye === SuperL4g is now known as SuperLag [07:36] hello all ... is there maybe a better crontab-rule like this: https://paste.debian.net/1100999/ [07:50] clear [08:00] andre144k: I think something like "4-54/10 * * * 1-6 ..." [08:59] Hi! A bit new to Ubuntu One. Whats the best way to manage a number of RPis running Ubuntu One? It will be around 100-200 devices [09:04] Fabric or Ansible [09:06] do i need to use Windows? I'm kind of been always bored on linux === xeon is now known as bqq [09:51] how do i fix X/wayland. i changed some config files last week and i dont remember what i touched. i'd just like to have a fresh start [09:51] right now i get dropped to tty after boot and not lightdm/gdm [09:55] Sorry, mixed up One and Core ! Whats the best way to manage a number of RPis running Ubuntu Core? It will be around 100-200 devices [10:01] robban: does this help at all? https://askubuntu.com/questions/816118/managing-large-scale-snappy-core-iot-deployment [10:02] robban: I'd suspect Canonical would point you at Landscape as the management agent... though I'm not sure if it can manage core/snaps as you would want [10:04] TJ- Thanks. Yes, something along those lines. I was thinking abount using ansible towards the machines, but I have not found any docs on that at all. [10:06] ansible or saltstack [10:06] rest are fighting for scraps [10:06] robban, docs on what precisely? i presume these are mostly still linux machines with working ssh [10:11] Does anyone else only here "buun" in this pronunciation example at wikipedia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:En-Ubuntu_pronunciation.oga# [10:12] s/here/hear/ [10:15] TJ-: lived in South Africa too long not to know how to pronounced Ubuntu [10:16] SpiritHorse: does that sound correct to you? it sure doesn't to me [10:16] sounds fucked [10:16] should sound more like there are O's and not U's in the name [10:16] SpiritHorse: thought so... I'm on a RaspPi and firefox doesn't play sound so douwnloaded it, just wanted to be sure it hadn't gone 'wrong' locally [10:28] hello, how can i know ram size? [10:28] dollarWoman: free -m [10:29] thanks [10:30] hello guys ! I get 'unmet dependencies' when installing packages. But as you can see, the needed packages with required versions are available : https://paste.ee/p/tG01B . So why it says 'unmet dependencies' ? [10:46] Xat`: that isn't Ubuntu, those package versions are Debian [10:47] TJ-: you're right [10:48] TJ-: but, maintainer are ubuntu developers [10:48] original maintainers are debian [10:52] Xat`: oh, I see what you mean. The packages were a direct import into Ubuntu wouthout changes though so it is possible there's an issue originating in Debian [10:54] Xat`: what command did you issue to trigger the install? [11:06] TJ-: apt-get install shibboleth-sp2-utils libapache2-mod-shib2 [11:07] Xat`: is that with 18.04 Bionic ? [11:23] Hi all [11:44] BluesKaj: Hi! [11:46] hi marcoagpinto [11:55] https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/open-networking-summit-europe-2019/ [12:00] TJ-: yes , with 18.04 Bionic [12:05] Xat`: I see the same issue with "sudo apt-get --dry-run install libapache2-mod-shib2 " [12:08] Xat`: capture/pastebin the report from " sudo apt-get --dry-run -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true install libapache2-mod-shib2 " [12:46] Hi, ive got a problem with kubuntu - it hangs on boot - when i boot with nomodeset setting, it does boot however without amdgpu driver, without nomodeset and amdgpu.dc=0 it still hangs on boot [12:48] I am trying to get my Rx5700 to work [12:55] TJ-: :) [13:02] Hi, i want to enable amdgpu for my amd 8550m hybrid [13:03] i put radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1 [13:03] in grub then updated grub [13:04] But when i run lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D|Display' radeon is displayed in use [13:08] hay207: what is the actual graphics card installed in the machine? Which version of Ubuntu are you running. The "amdgpu" drivers support only a specific set of graphics cards. [13:09] I have a hybrid intel/amd, using ubuntu 18.04 [13:11] hello, i m having an issue.... i have installed initially Ubuntu on UEFI and recently Win 7, which cleared the ubuntu EFI boot records.... how do i restore it so i can select any or the OS ? [13:11] hay207: You need to provide the actual chipset of the graphics card [13:11] intel Haswell? [13:12] hello all, can someone give me a hand getting grub to correctly boot windows 10? [13:12] !grub | afidegnum, always install Linux 'after' Windows [13:12] afidegnum, always install Linux 'after' Windows: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [13:12] pragmaticenigma, that doesnt help. [13:12] Lenovo Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [13:13] glitchd: You didn't read the entire message [13:13] glitchd: Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub [13:13] pragmaticenigma, no. [13:13] glitchd: You need grub to boot Ubuntu and Windows [13:14] pragmaticenigma:I installed Linux first before installing windows which erased Linux Grub [13:14] pragmaticenigma, i didnt lose grub, i just cant figure out the nunmber "(hd0,msdos1)" to get windows to boot from grub. [13:14] glitchd: Sorry... got two conversations going [13:15] glitchd: Follow the instructions... if you're already in Ubuntu, you should be able to restore by running the update-grub command [13:15] pragmaticenigma, windows is installed on sdd and linux is installed on sdc [13:16] pragmaticenigma, i tried that already, it didnt work. when i select the windows item from grub it just errors out and sends me back to grub. [13:16] glitchd: Ignore my previous stuff... I was getting your sn mixed up with someone else [13:16] afidegnum: Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub [13:16] sry bud, np [13:16] ill just wait [13:17] glitchd: Run this command, it will tell you what graphics chipset the radeon card has: lspci -nn | grep -E 'VGA|Display' [13:18] it's me :) [13:18] pragmaticenigma, i believe thats for the other guy [13:18] okay... I've got too much going on [13:18] Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun LE [Radeon HD 8550M / R5 M230] [13:18] :) [13:18] pragmaticenigma, no worries bud [13:18] thanks hay207 [13:19] Hi, ive got a problem with kubuntu - it hangs on boot - when i boot with nomodeset setting, it does boot however without amdgpu driver, without nomodeset and amdgpu.dc=0 it still hangs on boot, i am trying to get my rx5700xt to work [13:19] hay207: amdgpu does not currently provide support for your card. That is why you are seeing the Radeon driver being loaded instead of the amdgpu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver [13:20] glitchd: for you, is the update grub script not able to find your windows installation? It shouldn't matter if it is on a different drive, the tool usually scans for all bootable OS's [13:21] pragmaticenigma, it does indeed find it and even put a windows 10 listing in the grub menu, but when i select it, it give an error that the partition does no exist [13:21] Ok, but i read it do provide basic support for hd8550 in a post [13:22] hay207: The page I linked is the source of truth, what is written there is what is officially supported [13:23] glitchd: Are you working with a mixed UEFI and legacy boot configuration? Where Windows 10 is installed UEFI, and Ubuntu was installed Legacy? [13:23] Ok, thanks a lot for help pragma :) [13:24] Bye [13:24] i did sudo grub-install /dev/sda3 and i have an error of grub-install: Error: failed to get canonical path of '/cow' [13:24] pragmaticenigma, here is a picture of the error screen. https://imagebin.ca/v/4vDULQXa2Sxz [13:24] pragmaticenigma, yes i do believe so [13:24] i m using Ubuntu Live USB while trying instead of installing [13:25] You using virtualbox glitchd? [13:25] no [13:25] pragmaticenigma, so i know i need to point grub to the efi partition of the windows install, but i cant figure out the number i need to use [13:26] hay207, no. [13:26] How you got a screenshot of bootscreen? [13:26] hay207, grub-emu and a screenshot [13:26] pragmaticenigma: any insight ? [13:27] afidegnum: Actual EFI fixing isn't something I'm very familiar with. I know there are a couple other volunteers here (usually online in a couple hours) that are better suited for helping on this issue [13:28] pragmaticenigma, not a problem, i can come back later. im still able to boot into windows if i change the boot order so it not a life or death situation. [13:28] glitchd: Does Windows have bitlocker running? [13:29] pragmaticenigma, honestly i have no idea. im in linux atm so i cant even check [13:29] pragmaticenigma, but it is a super fresh install, i just built this system in the last week or so. [13:29] glitchd: Bitlocker would be something you had to have enabled when you installed/configured your windows insatallation [13:30] pragmaticenigma, well i dont remember specifically enabling that feature, so my guess would be no [13:32] pragmaticenigma, ive gotta run man, thx for the intended help. [13:58] So I originally install Ubuntu with partitional file system since it was my 2nd install I did not want to complicate things. Now my media server have been expanded accross several hds and is just to spread out to find anything. I know I have to reinstall to use lvm to cure then problem. Do I also need to off load the data from all my hard drives [13:58] and format them again. Or will that not be necessary [14:01] yeah you can't do in-place swaps [14:02] if you can offload -one- [14:02] you can lvm that one, move data back onto it, offload the next one, etc. [14:02] Oh my ok that was my next question [14:03] Jesus this is going to be a long day that no one can watch TV on. [14:04] There is not a more elegant solution I'm not thinking of correct lol. ( Prays for miracle) [14:04] well, *elegant* sounds like buying a new pile of six hard drives and installing zfs and moving everything over :D [14:05] Killerherts, there are way *less* elegant solutions that might limit downtime [14:07] Lol sarnold that will be a hard sell to the wife. Ok well looks like I'm backing up some tbs today to get this converstion going [14:08] in truth you could probably just do eg two 8tb or 10tb drives, I hear you can get good ones in a usb enclosure for something like $180.. and 10tb would fit most people's media collectoins [14:09] buying more drives than that are just to put off having a full pool for a few years [14:10] This is ultimately where it's all going I need an excuse to learn how to set up lvm so I can say I know a little bit about it [14:11] Seems like you gotta break a few things in Linux before you can really understand it [14:13] definitely that's a good inccentive to learn how to fix things :) thogh hopefully there are easier ways [14:15] I'll keep poking around your zfs input is now my new Google rabbit hole [14:15] Thanks for the help [14:15] Killerherts: https://pthree.org/2012/12/04/zfs-administration-part-i-vdevs/ my favourite series of blog posts :) [14:17] Nice thanks well looks like I got some reading to handle thanks [14:18] :D === coffeeguy is now known as zenguy [14:39] Hi everyone, there's a package update for wireshark which seems to fix CVE-2019-12295 but the changelog includes a point saying "Non-maintainer upload". With a security update I'm sort of wary to apply it from a non-maintainer without understanding at least part of the background. Is this a normal procedure? [14:45] bogn, hi, you are referring to https://usn.ubuntu.com/4133-1/ ? [14:45] CVE-2019-12295 and CVE-2019-13619 [14:45] Yes [14:50] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=929446#17 [14:50] Debian bug 929446 in src:wireshark "wireshark: CVE-2019-12295" [Grave,Fixed] [14:51] bogn, i think you can trust these archives, they come from debian ? https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/bionic-updates/wireshark [14:51] git [14:52] debian has its own repos seperate from ubuntu's OerHeks [14:54] tonyt, the original maintainer is Balint Reczey ( debian) [14:54] k [14:54] that is where we got the sources from, to be more precise [14:54] balint maintains wireshark for both debian and ubuntu. he's a canonical employee. [14:56] bogn: the ubuntu security team sponsors updates prepared by community members. we work with our community members to ensure the fixes come from upstream authors [14:57] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures gives some guidelines [15:10] OK, I was just confused by the wording Non-maintainer Upload in the context of a security update [15:12] bogn, we appreciate your alertness [15:12] So I took away that the the non-maintainer is in this case a debian maintainer instead of an ubuntu maintainer. I think I can trust this enough. [15:12] Thanks for the infos. [15:13] have fun! === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk [15:36] Hi, I have an extention that shows me the cpu usage the power govenor etc, and this thing almost always show something like" system overload, CPU throttled (some large int), IRQImbalance detected" [15:37] and often times it shows the cpu max at like 1.8. when I believe it shouled be in the 3 range. can someone help me understand what this means? [15:41] cpu throttled sounds like an overheating problem [15:42] low frequency also indicates overheat [15:42] but low frequency could be normal if system is idling [15:43] no, it's not idle, it's crankin [15:43] iffraff: You should also compare the results of the extension against better known CLI tools that perform the same tasks. Extensions sometimes are written with a focus on the author's own system and don't always leverage the correct information for other system configurations. [15:44] pragmaticenigma: can you suggest a cli tool that is well respected? [15:44] iffraff, I'd run `watch sensors` and see if temps are staying below 70C [15:45] if not, definitely a thermal problem [15:47] so, here's one of the cores, i definitely saw them hitting like 72 but mostly mid to high 50's [15:47] iffraff, might need `sudo apt install lm-sensors` for the `sensors` command to work [15:47] Core 0: +60.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) [15:47] 60 is okay. it won't throttle because of that [15:48] iffraff: I tend to use nmon for a lot of my system monitoring [15:48] I guess there are two issues, the cpu throttling, which at this moment is not the reading, and the irqimbalance detected [15:49] do y'all know what the irqimbalance thing is? [15:49] irqbalance attempts to spread hardware IRQs across cores [15:49] so they aren't all going to the same CPU [15:50] so, an imbalance sounds kind of bad === Exterminador- is now known as Exterminador [15:50] if it doesn't occur often, it is probably fine [15:50] Hi there! How do i enable /tmp access to a snap-packaged application? [15:50] it's pretty much always there [15:50] iffraff, repeatedly? [15:51] once is no problem at all, it's just reporting that it is doing it [15:51] doug16k: everytime I open this extension it says that. when the cpu is being throttled it's all in red but the rest of the time it's in yello [15:51] does nmon report irqbalance? [15:54] iffraff: no... but it can report cpu throttling, I use it to see where system bottlenecks are... i.e. CPU graphs show large amounts of Waits, because the Disk I/O is still clearing [15:57] is 12 - 17 a large amount of waits? [15:59] what is the best tool for making freecell game for ubuntu?