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[00:30] <ddb> hello
[00:32] <EriC^^> hello ddb
[01:30] <mwebsec> hmm
[01:33] <bucky> .5
[01:40] <Guest57> is there a way to get davinci resolve to install on Ubuntu 26.04 or does the dev team keep wanting to shove their package manager down my throat and remove any semblance of appimages from Ubuntu?
[01:40] <Guest57> I am beginning to hate Ubuntu
[01:41] <Guest57> "please use snap!!! you better use snap or else!!!" like I swear to god Ubuntu 26.04 is the worst release of Ubuntu ever
[01:41] <Guest57> you should be ashamed of yourselves
[01:42] <rbox> rofl
[01:43] <bucky> Guest57
[01:44] <bucky> I came, I saw, I criticized
[01:44] <CrimeWave> I'm ashamed
[01:52] <mwebsec> hmmm
[02:45] <disgrunt> Snap is ok... But I was hoping Ubuntu would diverge for a third package system.  You have rpm, apt, but the law of 3s.  tar isn't exactly a management system.
[02:46] <disgrunt> Then the concept of "boxes" for "apps" is "good enough".
[03:10] <jStefan> a lot of software in Linux has alternatives, often more than 3.
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[03:39] <ananke> disgrunt: apt is not a package system, deb is.
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[05:27] <mwebsec> yo
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[05:53] <mwebsec> hi Disconsented
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[08:31] <Your_Dog> Shame Guest57 left because I have like so many appimages right now and all of them work from an PS2 emulator down to my chat app. so i dunno what the guy is ranting about
[08:31] <Your_Dog> in Ubuntu 26.04
[08:36] <bucky> Your_Dog: you there
[08:36] <Your_Dog> i am
[08:37] <bucky> yeah Guest57 was upset he couldn't install davinci code
[08:37] <bucky> It won't install on wayland...
[08:37] <bucky> because of Gnome 50
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[08:39] <bucky> *davinci resolv
[08:39] <Your_Dog> ill check on that
[08:39] <Your_Dog> im on KDE but certainly I do use appimages alot so im curious if its like idk... an issue with electron appimages
[08:39] <bucky> yeah you need x11
[08:39] <bucky> KDE uses x11
[08:40] <Your_Dog> but shouldnt that be solved with xwayland?
[08:40] <bucky> that I don't know... I just googled it because he made such a fuss over it
[10:33] <tohoyn> I have filed a sync request for package g-golf from Debian on March 17 this year. The package is still not synced. Why is this so?
[10:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[10:41] <bucky> tohoyn: is it this package? g-golf/resolute 0.8.3-1
[10:41] <bucky> hi BluesKaj
[10:42] <BluesKaj> hi bucky
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: did you file a launchpad bug to sync?
[11:05] <tohoyn> lotuspsychje: yes, #2144636
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> bug #2144636
[11:11] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2144636 in g-golf (Ubuntu) "[FFE] Sync G-Golf 0.8.4-1 from Debian" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2144636
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: looking good, i would just also add the debian branch you want the sync from, to wich ubuntu repo too
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: for example, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/643691
[11:14] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 643691 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "FFe: Please sync ubuntu-dev-tools 0.103 (universe) from Debian experimental (main)" [Undecided, Fix Released]
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> experimental==>universe
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: see also: https://documentation.ubuntu.com/project/release-team/freezes/
[11:22] <tohoyn> lotuspsychje: I added a comment to the bug. Should I also change the bug title and description (which are outdated)?
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: sure, add the /universe/main in your title too
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: from what i understanded from someone else, debian import freeze will happen automaticly these days
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: (not my own words): according to https://documentation.ubuntu.com/project/release-team/freezes/ "new versions of packages are automatically imported from Debian’s unstable branch (where they have not been customized for Ubuntu). Entirely new packages (those not in Ubuntu at all) are also automatically imported." so there is no need to file any kind of request, it will just happen
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: the debian import freeze for ubuntu 26.10 is in august
[11:30] <tohoyn> lotuspsyche: yes, but for some reason the package has not been synced yet.
[11:31] <tohoyn> lotuspsyche: I have the same problem with packages theme-d and theme-d-intr
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: august
[11:34] <sudip> tohoyn: theme-d and theme-d-intr were uploaded to Debian after Resolute's Debian Import Freeze.
[11:36] <tohoyn> sudip: why have they not been imported to Stonking?
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> !info theme-d-intr
[11:37] <ubottu> theme-d-intr (0.20.4-1, resolute): Software library for using G-Golf in Theme-D. In component universe, is optional. Built by theme-d-intr. Size 14 kB / 179 kB
[11:38] <sudip> tomreyn: afaik, sync has not yet been enabled for Stonking
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> <ubottu> theme-d-intr (0.20.4-1, stonking)
[11:40] <tohoyn> sudip: ok. do you know when it will be enabled?
[11:40] <sudip> sorry, no idea. but I am sure Skia knows.
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: did you request them at same time?
[11:43] <tohoyn> theme-d and theme-d-intr have been requested at same time but g-golf earlier
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> thats weird indeed
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: same repos?
[11:44] <tohoyn> lotuspsyche: do you mean Debian repos?
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: yeah like main==>universe as g-golf
[11:46] <tohoyn> lotuspsyche: their repo is Debian main but I did not mention universe in the requests
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> they got into universe so
[11:50] <tohoyn> Skia: do you know when syncing from Debian will be enabled for Stonking?
[11:57] <sudip> tohoyn: LP:#2144636 will not be a FFe, it will just be a sync request. I can sync them later today.
[11:57] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2144636 in g-golf (Ubuntu) "[FFE] Please sync g-golf 0.8.7-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2144636
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> sudip: can you take a look at zoitechat too please?
[11:59] <tohoyn> sudip: can you sync theme-d and theme-d-intr, too? sync requests are #2151172 and #2151175.
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: theme-d is on the ubuntu repos
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> see my !info triggers earlier
[12:01] <sudip> lotuspsychje: sure, will check
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> sudip: tnx, zoitechat is approved on the debian side
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: apt-cache search theme-d on an ubuntu system
[12:09] <tohoyn> lotuspsychje: could you check that because I don't have ubuntu installed?
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> sure thing!
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: here ya go mate; https://dpaste.com/4A2S7QE6H
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[12:11] <lotuspsychje> thats from ubuntu 26.04 LTS
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: does that look like what you expected?
[12:26] <tohoyn> lotuspsychje: yes, all the theme-d and theme-d-intr packages are listed
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> great
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: hmmmm: https://dpaste.com/F3MMFXKDW
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: sorry, i should have searched apt before the !info here
[13:05] <fauxpride> do we have a patch for drity frag yet?
[13:07] <leftyfb> fauxpride: first result on google for "ubuntu dirty frag" https://ubuntu.com/blog/dirty-frag-linux-vulnerability-fixes-available
[13:08] <leftyfb> fauxpride: https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2026-43284 shows there's no kernel patch for it yet
[13:09] <tuxick> i rolled out that mitigation same day
[13:09] <tuxick> but it's getting annoying
[13:10] <tuxick> at least kmod update provided disable-algif_aead.conf'
[13:10] <tuxick> afair
[13:15] <fauxpride> leftyfb: thanks, I'm aware of the fixes.
[13:15] <fauxpride> Don't want to blacklist anything in the IPSEC stack, since I use some of it.
[13:15] <fauxpride> was wondering whether an official path is ready yet
[13:16] <leftyfb> I don't think it's been patched in any kernel yet to be honest
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-7.0.6-Released
[13:32] <younder> For my use wireguard replaces ipsec.
[13:48] <om> hi
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> welcome om
[14:01] <tuxick> i thought ipsec got deprecated like 20 years ago
[14:37] <AngryTom> it is still a standard for VPN tunnels
[14:44]  * r3set waves to everyone
[14:51] <Your_Dog> oh shame bucky left but for those who were curious, Davinci Resolve does in fact work on Ubuntu 26.04 and no there is no appimage on it and no appimage just works fine as it is on Ubuntu 26.04 so idk what Guest57 is ranting lmao
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[16:10] <Manouchehri> tuxick: IPsec is still worth it if you're doing a high throughput / low latency tunnel with hardware acceleration, and the setup time cost is worth it.
[16:20] <tuxick> yeah, last i used it for was connecting 2 locations
[16:21] <tuxick> indeed with hw acceleration
[16:37] <tohoyn> Yesterday I sent a message to ubuntu-devel but I have not received any moderator decision. When should the message appear in ubuntu-devel archive?
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[16:52] <lotuspsychje> tohoyn: most of ubuntu channels moved to matrix these days
[16:54] <tuxick> at least it's not whatsapp
[16:58] <tohoyn> lotuspsychje: ok
[17:37] <cbreak> wireguard's very efficient I think. I can get up to 700 MBit/s on my phone (via wlan)
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