blackflagand using the package from vidiolan.org12:03
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apokryphosblackflag: you want the marillat repos then; use them at your own peril :)12:04
apokryphosdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main12:04
blackflagHow can I get such information ?12:04
pipegeekHi, folks.  I'm just wondering--how is it, exactly, that kdesktop determines whether or not there is a CD present in the CD-ROM drive?  It used to be until yesterday that there would be no icon on the desktop for the cd drive until there was a disk inserted.  Last night, I had to hit the reset button on this machine, and when I finally logged in again, there were icons on the desktop for both drives, even though neither contained media.12:04
apokryphosblackflag: what information?12:06
blackflagor is it a mystery?12:06
blackflagtto know what server i have to puzt in the list12:06
apokryphosblackflag: I pasted it above12:06
blackflagyes, but where you get the information?12:06
pipegeekUsing hoary, btw.12:07
apokryphosblackflag: it's common knowledge to debian users, but some time ago marillat was used on ubuntu too, so that's how I know...12:07
blackflagIO have a good book here but it isnt discribed12:08
blackflagso, where i get this!? common knowledge?12:10
apokryphosblackflag: what are you talking about? I gave you the source above12:14
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toranhey guys, how do I set the default GTK fonts in kubuntu?12:24
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Tm_Toh great12:39
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Spudchathi everyone12:40
Spudchatis there like a pop up blocker for konqueror?12:41
kalenedraelThere ought to be. Go to 'Configure Konqueror...'12:41
Tm_Tkonqi has it12:41
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peersofti downloaded kubuntu ;D12:53
peersoftwill be installin when i get home12:53
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Lord_AthurI've a question01:11
Lord_AthurCan you tell me something, please?01:16
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ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.01:18
LeshracLord_Athur: you should ask your question, someone might answer01:18
Lord_Athurwell, I use kubuntu and this cannot install wine with apt-get sistem01:19
Lord_AthurI should I do?01:19
Leshrachow's that you can't?01:20
apokryphosgah; too long again01:20
apokryphos!tell Lord_Athur about wine01:20
Leshraclet me check that01:21
Leshrac!tell leshrac about wine01:21
Lord_Athurapokryphos, thanks01:22
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tuI just installed kplayer and Im not able to play vob-files dvd's01:26
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tuI cant find information to play that01:27
tuI see only that kplayer should play such files01:27
tucan someone give me a hint?01:27
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MachineScrewi am having a problem with my usplash01:31
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ToyMananyone get skype to work in kubuntu?02:02
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free02:03
ToyMan"This page does not exist yet"  maybe no thanks...;-)02:04
apokryphosit's the blasted comman in the URL there that ruins it02:04
apokryphosubotu: no skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free02:05
ubotuokay, apokryphos02:05
ToyManEnlightened Sound Daemon???02:05
ToyManis that what you folks are using?02:06
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ToyManthe whole sound in linux thing has me very confused... ALSA  / Jack / Open / ESD02:10
Lord_AthurIs this cannel por spanish persons really?02:11
apokryphos#ubuntu-es is, yes02:12
apokryphos(or #kubuntu-es )02:12
Lord_Athurwell apokryphos, do you know vmware?02:12
Lord_AthurI've a question about the program02:12
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peersofttryin to burn the kubuntu image (iso) to CD using Nero 6 - but its burning the ISO meaning it wont be bootable - how do i burn this shit?02:14
`Nomaddon't burn shit, it stinks.. 02:15
`NomadIn nero, find "burn image" in the menu02:15
`Nomadunder recorder maybe02:15
peersoftbut it dont show the stuff that it needs02:15
peersoftit shows the ISO only02:15
peersoftusually the iso will show the files in it02:15
peersoftbefore burning02:15
`Nomadnever noticed that before02:16
`Nomadit's there anyway, are you stre your ISO is ok?02:16
peersoftwell I burnt one02:16
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peersoftand it showed the ISO when i popped it back in02:16
peersoftyea im sure02:16
peersofti got it from kubuntu site02:16
`Nomadok, then speak to your nero people :)02:16
peersoftcould i extract with winRar02:16
peersoftand burn normally?02:16
peersoftor would it not work02:16
peersoftkubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso - ISO9660 archive, unpacked size 594,558,526 bytes02:17
peersoftyea it works02:17
peersoftI just viewed files w/ winrar02:17
peersoftno erros02:17
peersoftok usally yall help02:24
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TokenBadis something wrong with the sound in kubuntu?02:35
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DaSkreechWould it be possible to install 3.5 after Kubuntu comes out?02:38
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DaSkreechJust apt-get KDE3.5 et al?02:38
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Lord_Athurhi again04:23
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cooterlovein gnome you have nautilus scripts wich i love  but i switched to KDE   does kde have something similer?05:04
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cynewb all05:39
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ksmurfhello all05:54
douglashas anyone had any luck with wlassistant 0.5.4?05:54
douglasI can't get the deb to install, it says I have unmet dependencies, but I checked them and their installed.05:55
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ksmurfI've just decided that I should give kde a chance.  I've been using gnome since I came to linux (UBUNTU) and want to know what all this KDE vs Gnome stuff is about so I'm giving kubuntu a chance.  Are the many differences?05:56
Kamping_Kaiserksmurf: kde is a windows ripoff, gnome is an apple rip off ;)05:58
ksmurfKK rofl...... The idea of imatation instead of inovation is a little out of the linux ideal is it not?05:59
Kamping_Kaiseryeh, it is. 06:00
Kamping_Kaiserkde has a single 'k' icon you press to get a menu, like windows 'start'06:00
ksmurfThat explains the blue06:00
Kamping_Kaiserhowever kde is skinable/themeable (properly), and has way more features06:00
Kamping_Kaiseri dont use it a lot, so i cant realy sell it to you :)06:01
ksmurfCool.... I just heard arron on TLLTS this week and figured I should try it.... 06:01
Kamping_Kaiserwhats that?06:01
ksmurfLinux link tech show06:01
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Kamping_Kaiserah ok06:02
s3rp3nt I have a server that is being put on a 10Mbs Fiber connection on monday... Who do i need to contact to offer a mirror?06:02
Kamping_Kaiserim not  a big kde fan myself, but its certainly not a piece of crap :)06:02
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Kamping_Kaisers3rp3nt: check at ubuntu.com, i cant be any more help then that :(06:03
ksmurfbrb ..... I just did a dist upgrade and want to reboot. brb06:03
Kamping_Kaiseryeh. allmost all (k)ubuntus packages are on the same mirrors - archive.ubuntu.com06:04
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StricklinI cannot locate the x11 directory suggested in http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver06:05
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Kamping_Kaiserwhich one Stricklin?06:06
StricklinI suppose I could search for the file xorg.conf06:06
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Kamping_Kaiserits X1106:06
Kamping_Kaiser* /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:07
Kamping_KaiserStricklin: linux is case sensitive06:08
StricklinOh I see, yeah, that got it06:08
Kamping_Kaiserbe back soon06:09
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StricklinShould 'sudo nano /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop' create a new file?06:11
Kamping_Kaisernot sure. 06:12
StricklinMust be06:12
Kamping_Kaiserand im not on my desktop, so i dont have an nvidia card to check with :(06:12
StricklinWhy does KUDOS keep referring to GNOME instead of KDE?06:13
Kamping_Kaiser*shrug* whats kudos? it might be abug06:13
kianziackhello any one know how tomake my open office faster06:13
StricklinUnbuntu, not Kubuntu06:13
kianziackhello any one know how to make my open office faster loading06:14
Kamping_Kaiserkianziack: no06:14
kianziacksob T_T06:14
jmgguys where is the svn:// kioslave in kde?06:22
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Kaiser_awaycyne: its version management system06:39
Kaiser_awaywb Stricklin06:39
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Stricklinjust trying new stuff out06:40
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jmganyone got breezy kvpnc to work?06:42
jmgor pptp in general?06:42
god-zerokianziack: there's ooqstart-gnome... that loads most of it a login. I haven't tried it06:42
god-zerokianziack: looks like the oo2 install comes with ooqstark-gnome & ooqstart-kde.06:45
insanekaneyes, it preloads a copy of OOo into memory06:46
kianziackeerr dont jave any idea06:46
kianziackeerr dont have any idea06:47
insanekanei personally, don't feel it is particularly fast ...06:47
insanekanebut there are other ways to speed up OOo06:47
kianziackgod-zero:  have you try install crossover office?06:47
cynehow would you compare windows threading to linux threading?06:47
insanekanelook in Options, and for Memory settings06:47
Kamping_Kaisercyne: in what way?06:48
cynequality wise06:48
god-zerono, infact I can't find 00qstart-kde... It clames it in the package, but I can't find it on my system06:48
Kamping_Kaiserbut do you mean for a P4, or aplication threading? either way its about the same afaik, but i think linux is better for the p406:49
cynewell as in multitasking06:49
kianziackany one help me install BitLord_1.1.exe] 06:49
cyneapplications yeah06:49
StricklinWhy do things like my title bars and scroll bars and such turn into garbage pixels after a couple of minutes after logging on?06:50
god-zerocyne: they're way different iirc.. can't remember the details, but are totally different modes06:50
Kamping_Kaisercyne: runny with the smp kernel under linux i got way better encoding results. cant realy comment about games06:50
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god-zerothread based vs object based or some such06:51
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god-zeroscheduling seems much better than windows06:52
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StricklinI'm starting to get pissed off at this ~>:|06:54
StricklinAnyone else use nVidia drivers and have/had similar problems?06:55
Kamping_Kaisernot me06:56
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helpmehelp me......i have to take an imp decision for my sweet pc:)07:06
Kamping_Kaiserthe power cable07:07
helpmeshould i do a fresh install of kanotix or kubuntu? previous install is all messed up!07:07
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god-zeroKamping_Kaiser: What's better? linux or windows?07:08
Kamping_Kaisergod-zero: imo linux, but it wins on idealogical basis, not a technical one07:08
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god-zeroWe're obviously into kubuntu, but that depends on what you want, your hardware...07:09
helpmegod-zero: my hardware is good for both of them.....07:09
Kamping_Kaiserwhats kanotix based on?07:10
god-zerodeb, via knoppix iirc07:10
helpmekanotix is based on debian...its 99% pure debian:)07:10
Kamping_Kaiser:) :O07:11
god-zeroI don't see areason not to recommend either, As far as kubuntu breezy is concerned... it's getting pretty stable now07:12
helpmegod-zero: ive heard that kubuntu is not fully compatible with all deb packages....is that true? whats bootup time for kubuntu on ur pc?07:12
Kamping_Kaiserits not fully compatible, thats true07:12
helpmei only have kubuntu hoary...and talking abt that......07:12
god-zeroThey re-sync every 6 months so it doesn't get too out of hand. Few packages are incompatable07:13
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helpmewhat does re-sync mean? in kubuntu can i install things like mplayer etc? opera?07:14
crimsunhelpme, yes, you can.07:15
helpmein kubuntu can i upgrade to kde 3.4.2 without expecting probs?07:16
god-zeroMost .debs are in universe or multiverse. They're usually raw .debs ifaikt07:16
god-zerohoary, yes.. breezy built in by default07:16
helpmehow fast does kubuntu boot on ur pcs? rough estimates? i mean till the kdm appears......07:17
helpmeare the kubuntu repos huge enough? what other repos i'll need to add?07:18
god-zeromy celeron... ???    Not quite as fast a windows.. (1 minute from post to desktop & aps loaded)? I haven't timed it07:18
god-zeromerrilat or how ever you spell that for some codecs. I get by on main and universe just fine07:19
helpmewhen kubuntu breezy releases, will i be able to do an update with the cd? without having to lose any extra stuff (like biology packages) ive installed? and without internet?07:19
helpmeand without any probs?07:20
god-zeroyes. I believe so07:20
crimsunyes, you can.07:20
helpmehmm..thats good....i wont lose all my imp stuff like bioinformatics packages ive installed..07:20
helpmeplz give me links for good kubuntu documentation..and how to add more repos etc??07:21
god-zeroyou sound like a candidate for backup07:22
crimsunhelpme, there's a lot of information on kubuntu.org, and also see the Ubuntu wiki07:22
god-zero!tell helpme about repositories07:22
kurthelpme: ubuntuguide.org is a decent start as well07:22
helpmehmmm..thanks guys:)07:23
kurtjust installed kubuntu today for first time and first time on debian and all is working pretty well so far.07:23
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god-zerokurt: breezy or hoary?07:23
kurtgod-zero: hoary right now.  probably wait for the final breezy later this month.07:23
helpmehey but one prob my friend had i remember....whenever he tried installing gaim via kynaptic........it asked for the ubuntu cd!! whats this!?07:24
helpmei dont have ubuntu cd....any way to get around this prob.....07:24
god-zeronot all the packages are installed from the cd by default07:24
cynedid he have internet access?07:24
helpmeim talking abt kubuntu...not ubuntu..07:25
cynei know07:25
helpmeyes he had internet...still kynaptic asked for ubuntu cd07:25
god-zerocomment out the "deb ... ... hdc" line in sources.list07:25
helpmethen i wont need ubuntu cd for installing gaim, right?07:26
kurtthe whole locked root account is different.  Ive actually unlocked it for just because it was bothering me.07:26
god-zeroIt should look for it in main then07:26
god-zeroMost of us unlock it... then realize we didn't need too07:27
god-zerojust requires adjustment07:27
kurtyeah, once I have everything all configured to my liking I may switch back I suppose.07:27
helpmehow do i get rid of sudo forever and create standard root account?07:28
helpmeafter installing kubuntu..07:28
god-zerosudo passwd root07:28
kurtsudo passwd root07:28
kurtthen set a root password and that is it.07:28
helpmethat will do the job?07:28
BlankBbetter to keep sudo and do: sudo -s    to get a root shell.07:28
god-zerothat'll set the password and in that act, enable root07:29
kurtthe root account is just locked initially07:29
helpmekurt: how do i unlock it?07:29
god-zeroIt's best to leave it tho07:29
kurthelpme: with the sudo passwd root command07:29
kurti just learned all this today myself07:30
kurtso I'm right there with you.07:30
helpmeone more thing....i do have ubuntu cd...should i install ubuntu...and then kubuntu via the kubuntu cd....or first kubuntu then gnome apps with ubuntu cd..........which route would take the least bandwidth?07:31
kurtthe pain the arss I've had so far is finding things like dvdcss and the win32codecs.  Not hard to find in the forums though07:31
helpmegnome apps include firefox, gimp n gaim,,,,07:33
kurtwell if you the cds for both i would just use that.07:33
helpmekurt: what wud u install 1st?07:33
helpmeto save bandwidth??07:33
kurtwell I'm more of a kde user so installed the kubuntu cd first and updated.  Then i just did apt-get install ubunut-desktop to get the gnome desktop and main gnome apps.07:34
helpmeok i'll do that07:34
helpmehey anyone knows about freerock gnome? is it a gnome theme? or a diff gnome?07:34
kurtdon't know07:35
helpmeits a kde-looking gnome theme i guess07:36
kurtmight as well just use kde then.07:37
helpmebut i find gnome faster thats why...othewise im a kde fan too07:38
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helpmewhat packages will i need to install to easily compile kde apps?07:38
StricklinIn a stock Kubuntu, how do I burn an ISO file onto a CD?07:39
kurtStricklin: probably just do cdrecord from the command line07:39
kurtor k3b would probably work as well07:39
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helpmeanyone used wine succesfully in kubuntu??07:40
helpmeand ran few windoze apps?07:40
kurti've just used crossover office and that works real well.07:41
kurtbut its not free either.07:41
cynewhy not just get vmware?07:42
kurtexpensive plus a hog.  but if those are issues then vmware 5 is pretty good.07:42
kurtaren't that is.07:42
helpmewhat packages will i need to install to easily compile kde apps?07:45
kurtanyone found deb packages for the meanwhile libraries?07:46
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cyneis VMWare commercial?08:04
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ksmurfwell that sucked.....  Wifi is a much bigger pain inkubuntu than ubuntu08:05
ksmurfis thre anybody out there ?08:10
pussfellerwine is free08:19
pussfellerwine will run office just as good as crossover08:19
pussfelleror close08:20
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helpmehelp me!08:40
helpmecan i install kubuntu with the iso on hard disk and without cd??08:40
helpmeif yes, how?08:40
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muddi_78huhu,guten morgen!!!jemand zuhause ???09:11
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mornfallRiddell: dude, what happened to adept RC?09:19
mornfallRiddell: should i build the packages myself and upload? 6th october is complete breezy freeze09:19
mornfallRiddell: (upload as in pdx.freedesktop.org/~mornfall repo)09:20
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PiRX[lv] hi all! Does anyone know something about KDE error "Couldn't start process. Cant talk to klauncher"?09:36
PiRX[lv] happening on kubuntu 5.04 09:37
PiRX[lv] KDE 3.5b109:37
incubiino idea09:37
PiRX[lv] hmm... will try removing .kde directory09:38
PiRX[lv] but this happens for clean test user too09:38
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incubiiwhat are you doing when taht error occurs09:41
PiRX[lv] incubii: just loging into kdm09:42
PiRX[lv] and looks like .kde remove didn't help09:42
incubiimaybe check the kde logs ?09:44
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PiRX[lv] where are kde logs located (by default)09:45
incubiimaybe /var/log ?09:47
naliothPiRX[lv] : never REMOVE things, just MOVE them09:48
_nicolejetzt funktionierts. Hey baby09:48
PiRX[lv] nalioth: thanks for advice ;)09:48
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muddi_78huhu na endlich ich dachte schon,du wrst blond...09:48
naliothhey hey thats not nice09:49
mornfallnalioth: can i remove things if i have libtrash preloaded? :P09:49
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PiRX[lv] looks like my KDE is gone mad09:49
PiRX[lv] :(09:49
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naliothmornfall: have no clue what libtrash is09:49
mornfallnalioth: apt-cache show libtrash09:49
_nicoleschnucki bist noch da ?09:50
muddi_78na lego09:50
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_nicolehast du gut geschlafen?09:51
muddi_78eher nicht...(-:09:51
naliothmornfall: read the libtrash manpage to see how to remove things from it (or bypass it)09:51
_nicolewieso? 09:51
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_nicolehast die nacht vorm rechner verbracht?09:52
mornfalluhh, 5.0G    /home/mornfall/trash09:52
mornfalli'll need to empty the trash ;-)09:52
Hy_BoThi. Does anybody can tell me how can I achieve media support in Kubuntu? It doesn't play any media files. Trying to install codecs via "sudo app-get", but it didn't work out. Why there no biult-in codecs like in Mandriva, where media support is just great without additional installation?09:53
muddi_78jo...hm nehm mal bitte den chat von mir an...09:53
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_nicolewas wie wo09:53
muddi_78irgendwo muss da dcc chat stehen09:54
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mornfallmuddi_78: what about /query?09:55
mornfallmuddi_78: /dcc needs unfirewalled connection09:55
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_nicolehab keine zeit mehr zu gucken, muss mich fertig machen09:56
muddi_78geh mal bitte ein reiter weiter d.h. neues kleines fenster mit namen #_nicole 09:56
muddi_78meine betrete neuen channel im #kubuntu reiter 09:58
_nicolewir sprechen uns noch, Alex kommt gleich09:59
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ztonzyis this a english language channel or other :) ?10:00
crimsun_English afaik10:01
nalioththere are other channels for other languages10:03
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naliothnikkia: howdy10:07
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inc|freakyhey nalioth :D10:08
inc|freakynalioth: i really luv kubuntu now :D10:08
naliothinc|freaky: i'm glad. now only about 15 more DMs to go10:09
naliothdesktop manglers...enlightenment, xfce4, blackbox, fluxbox, ratpoison, and on and aon10:11
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god-zerowhy don't they like away msgs /nics in #ubuntu10:21
ztonzygod-zero, maybe they aren't registered ?10:23
ztonzyI think they only like registered nicks in #ubuntu , maybe due to lots of spambots10:23
inc|freakyah awkay10:23
naliothgod-zero: because of the needless crap the /away msgs produce10:24
ztonzynalioth, I think he means like nick|messgeges-here...10:25
ztonzywhen you do that...your nick aren't registered anymore10:25
ztonzywell registered maybe, but not logged in10:26
naliothztonzy: some /away scripts needlessly flood the channel whenever a persons nick is mentioned10:26
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ztonzynalioth, ah yes that too10:27
naliothztonzy: we have lots of bad habits from our experience from the wild untamed IRCnets10:28
ztonzynalioth, "we" ? are you a Op somewhere?10:29
god-zerostill doesn't seem like that big of a deal verses knowing mrx is away by looking at his nic10:29
naliothztonzy: those of us that are old enough to have been ircing for years and years10:30
naliothgod-zero: nick changes are not a problem10:31
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ztonzynalioth, I see...I am not very young, but just been irc-ing since 200210:31
nalioththat is a problem ^^^10:31
god-zeroI've prolly spent more time in here in the last week or so than all the rest of my irc time put together.. so I'm trying to learn the protocols10:34
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naliothubotu: tell god-zero about conduct10:35
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blackflagHello all :-)11:01
blackflagIm going crazy to get mplayer run to play vob dvd movies11:01
blackflagAll what I get is file not found when I try to start the movie over console11:02
blackflagCan someone help me?11:02
blackflagmplayer ..path to movie11:03
blackflagfile not found11:03
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blackflaghow could this be?11:03
blackflagand the patrh is correct11:04
crimsun_are you following the example syntax used in mplayer's man page?11:04
blackflagI tried it serveral times11:04
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spiralhmmm, why isn't amarok 1.3.2 in official main tree of breezy although it has been built by Riddell ?11:12
crimsun_because our release managers have not approved 1.3.211:13
crimsun_main was essentially frozen already when 1.3.2 was released11:14
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inc|freakycrimsun_: that means 1.3.2 will not be released with breezy?11:17
crimsun_inc|freaky, more than likely.11:17
inc|freakylemme check the changelog ^^11:18
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bazanmy openoffice don't know how to print spcial caractre.11:27
bazanwhat should I do to fix it11:27
bazaneg : an 'e' with accent is printed as a square11:28
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god-zerobazan: I don't have a clue how to fix it, but this is a common problem across aps, I _think_ it has to do with character mapping in utf8 vs whatever not getting translated correctly.11:39
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god-zeroCheck your i18n packages11:39
bazanyes but wich one the kde one?11:40
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god-zerokde-18n-(isolanguagecode) and the like11:42
bazanthis one is already uptodate11:42
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god-zerooo is a special case, it's java using gtk iirc. Try to open it in a kde native app (ie kate or koffice) and compare the special charactors11:46
naliothoOo is not one of my fave programs11:46
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bazanme too but it is the only one really able to open MSOffice format11:46
incubiicant do the simple macros i require :(11:46
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naliothmsoffice bah11:47
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kanehello all11:50
jolHello every one ! I've installed kubuntu, and i think it's a really great linux distribution ! Good work !11:50
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obontui  can't seem to find avidemux2 on synaptic, and i know it's been there before. are there some repositories i can it on12:00
konsoleboxexcuse me12:00
konsoleboxi have accidentally removed some files from /var/cache/apt/archives and apt-get seems to require my cd whenever i wanted to install a package12:00
konsoleboxis there a way to do downloading the files instead of using my cd.. i lost the cd12:00
apokryphoskonsolebox: comment-out the CD source in /etc/apt/sources.list12:00
obontuwhich source has avi demux? i don't have it on my list from some reason12:01
konsoleboxthanks apokryphos12:02
konsoleboxhave to go12:02
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god-zeroobontu: I use the ffmpeg packages for avis12:04
obontui wanna edit avis, not watch them12:05
nikkiamorning apokryphos12:05
nikkiaobontu: there is no easy way to 'edit' AVIs per se12:05
obontui just need avidemux12:05
obontuand i can't find it on synaptic12:05
obontui know it's supposed to be there12:05
obontui've seen it before12:05
nikkiaobontu: transcode, ffmpeg and mencoder can do simple tasks such as ripping out frame ranges, demux/mux, and re-encoding tasks (cropping, resizing, frame-rate rejiggles, etc), but there is no easy to use editor, like, say virtualdub, that works directly on avis12:06
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god-zeroobontu: try avifile-utils12:07
nikkia(note the wording there, there *are* video editors for linux, none of them work directly on avis tho, to my knowledge, they all require that the videos be in some esoteric format, and thus use of something like transcode or ffmpeg to convert to/from this editable format)12:07
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naliothnikkia: howdo?12:07
obontui don't want it12:07
obontui want avidemux12:07
obontuwhere is the repo which has it?12:08
inc|freakyim trying to record something with my microphone but it just doesnt work it doesnt record anything ... i selected the mic as record device ... recording volume is up ... any ideas?12:08
nikkiamorning nalioth12:08
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konsoleboxanother question pls12:10
konsoleboxdo u know how to activate direct rendering?12:10
konsoleboxi already upgraded xserver-xorg-driver-ati.. done restarting pc and no work yet.. 'glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" = no'12:10
konsoleboxummm.. is there a 3d setup?12:12
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god-zeroobontu: look in Marillat's repo12:13
obontuwhat's Marillat's repo?12:14
naliothgod-zero: please dont do that12:14
obontuwhy not?12:14
naliothobontu: marillat CAN (and very possibly) wreck you box 12:14
obontuah ok12:14
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obontuso maybe you can tell me where can i find avidemux?12:15
naliothobontu: you might try to enable "SOURCE" marillat repos and build what you need12:15
naliothobontu: but i strongly recommend AGAINST using marillat binary repos12:15
obontuok i don't want them12:16
obontubut i want avidemux12:16
obontui know it's somewhere on synaptic12:16
god-zerothat's prolly where you had it from before. Many have compiled it from there and posted the binarys here-and-there12:16
obontui don't have it now for some reason12:16
god-zeroit's not in ubuntu12:16
obontuit is12:16
obontui've seen it before12:16
god-zerosearch ubuntu forums.org for it... see what i meen12:17
obontuok so maybe you can tell me where does spidermonkey installs to? i need it to compile it, i've d/led it but i need to specify the path but i can't find it12:18
god-zero? i'm not sure i wanna know12:19
obontui'm sure12:20
obontujava sript or something12:20
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god-zeroif you remember the file name (or most of it) type in cli: locate partial-name-of-file-i-lost12:21
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god-zerocommand prompt, lice konsole12:22
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arwatei saw once a kde program that plugged itself into the notification area with the randr options, but can't find anything that describes itself as such a thing in breezy. does anybody know which program i mean?12:24
god-zeroarwate: krandrtray12:26
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arwateperfect. thx12:27
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god-zerohi again12:35
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kasimHi, I have a slightly OT question: How should I print simple HTML-pages via batch? [Under kubuntu breezy.] 12:36
seaLnekasim: if they are simple and you only want the text something like "lynx -dump http://kubuntu.org |lpr"12:40
helpmehelp i am not able to mount windoze partitions12:40
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kasimthey are very simple, and dont even have to be HTML, but some form of rich text. A remote app is also ok. but lynx? I hardly no it and it seems big ... do you have one more hint?12:41
seaLnenot sure what you mean by lynx being big12:42
god-zerohelpme: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1886.html12:42
naliothubotu: tell helpme about windowsdrives12:42
kasimseaLne: i wrote nonsense, forget it. I need text AND some "rich text"12:43
seaLnemaybe smething with konq and dcop?12:43
kasimseaLne: i mixed up tex and lynx (I use links sometimes)12:43
seaLnelinks will do the same as lynx12:44
naliothlinks2 has graphical capability12:44
kasimkonq and dcop, i was thinking too, not very simple. in the older days there was a2ps, but that uses netscape12:44
kasimI have a Python app, which needs to create litte paper reciepts (bills). They should be with some rich text attributes like fonts, bold etc.12:45
kasimmay be konq and dcop is over engeniered. 12:46
seaLneyou could generate pdfs?12:46
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kasimactually i really dont need PDFs. My app creates some data, which i'd like to print as a sort of bill, but nice looking not text only12:48
helpmenalioth: thanks dude....but i have a reiserfs hda6 partition..how to set that in fstab?12:49
naliothhelpme: not sure the settins for reiser. see "man fstab" 12:50
seaLnekasim: have you thought about just generating postscript?12:50
kasimseaLne: Yes in my nightmares12:51
seaLnei wrote a shell script that mates ps to print onto forms12:51
kasimtoo difficult12:52
kasimLet me phrase it again. I have some (self generated, by own app) little HTML (3.2 good enough) pages, i'd like to print to paper via a (python) batch. thats all12:53
god-zerowhat paper oriented output are you comfortable with? html is paper oriented12:53
god-zerois ->isn't12:53
helpmei cant mount /dev/hda6 which is reiserfs...plz help me12:54
naliothhelpme: have you asked dear uncle google about "mount linux partition" ?12:55
god-zeroif html is all you want to output I'd html2ps filename|lpr12:55
kasimistn html2ps a part of A2PS (A as anything). That needs netscape to convert IMHO, than rather konq and dcop12:56
inc|freakydoes any1 know how to set mozilla thunderbird as default eMail-application? and im not able to record anything through my microphone, mixer settings are ok. can any1 help me there?12:57
god-zerolooks to be perl12:58
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god-zerohtml2ps depends libwww-perl and the like, but no gecko01:01
kasimwill check html2ps ...01:02
naliothinc|freaky: system > prefs > preferred application01:02
kasimgod-zero: seems to work. Great, for some reason i was against html2ps. I was under the impression that it would use Netscape to convert ...01:04
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arwateI've something odd: The eclipse packages that I downloaded from eclipse.org don't run on breezy. The splash screen just stays on forever. This is a behaviour as I was used to with blackdown jdk, and possibly gcj. But I built the newest sun jdk with make-jpkg and it is active (java -version) and I still have this behaviour. Any ideas? (note that I need specific eclipse versions, so the one in breezy won't satisfy me)01:05
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Rogue_Jedi_XI, too, have a problem. When I held down a key like backspace or any other key for that matter, the cursor repeated that function (r.g: when I held down delete, it erased everything in that line). Now I have to TAP keys repeatedly to get results. What happened?01:08
inc|freakynalioth: thx :)01:09
god-zerokasim: glad tohear ot worked01:10
inc|freakynalioth: where do you mean system?01:11
naliothinc|freaky: gnome or kde?01:11
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inc|freakykde ;)01:11
inc|freakyim on breezy :)01:11
naliothinc|freaky: ask again. i have no clue how to do it in #kde01:11
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kasimgod-zero: thanks a lot. Will stick to html2ps, see how far i get (there is cairo and SVG around the corner ....)01:12
sadfsdafexcuse me.. how do i switch from gcc-4.0 to gcc-3.3?01:12
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god-zerokasim: yes, those are exciting01:13
naliothkonsolebox: it's diffecult to answer you if you change your nick right after asking01:13
helpmegui apps are not accepting my new root password...but they accept sudo..plz help01:13
naliothkonsolebox: in your terminal type "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.0" or whichever one you want01:14
naliothhelpme: /msg ubotu root01:14
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helpmenalioth: i didnt get any info:(01:17
naliothhelpme: yerkiddinme!01:17
naliothhelpme: why do you need a root account?01:17
helpmenalioth: coz i need it......is there no way?01:19
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DocTomoethere is. but there is no need ;) Do it by "sudo passwd root"01:19
naliothhelpme: sudo -i wont do what you need?01:19
naliothDocTomoe: he's already enabled a root account and now he can't access it01:19
god-zeroI think he's refering to the "don't launch gui apps with su/sudo" prob... or the "why doesn't the admin button in kcontrol work" prob01:20
DocTomoehow "can't access it" ... forgot the root password? 01:20
naliothhelpme: DocTomoe is asking you a question01:20
konsoleboxnalioth: ummm. i mean when i do gcc --version, the version is not 3.3. how do i switch to a later version? .. it's important for compiling the kernel.. with intel-agp01:20
nikkiahelpme: the fact of the matter is, kcontrol + others in kubuntu are modified to work with sudo, not the root password, so setting an actual root password will NOT make those things suddenly work with it01:21
naliothkonsolebox: i told you how. install using kynaptic the gcc versions you want and see what i told you earlier01:21
god-zerohelpme: use "kdesu gui-app-to-run-as-root"01:23
DocTomoeHm, I have this strange problem with my sound card configuration under KDE. Anyone willing to help? Problem description: Soundcard works only when I set /dev/dsp to a+rw as root (have to do this after any reboot); kmix does not detect a soundcard afterwards, so the only way to change my volume level is by using a) alsamixer on konsole or b) my headphones. It would be great if i had not to manually change the /dev/dsp attributs and if MAix 01:24
DocTomoehe volume settings.01:24
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jbasilioDocTomoe: are you a member of the audio group?01:25
DocTomoejbasilio .. no idea. how can I check that?01:25
god-zeroDocTomoe: damn good resourcefulness!01:26
jbasilioDocTomoe: many ways.  simplest i know of is go to konsole and type groups01:26
DocTomoejbasilio: negative. How do I change this?01:26
jbasilioDocTomoe: oh damn!  slam dunk!  :)01:27
jbasiliotry kuser01:27
jbasiliousers adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin   (these are the groups i set my users in)01:27
jbasilioand i set my default to 'users' instead of <username> ... makes sharing files between users a snap01:28
konsoleboxnalioth: i want to use gcc-3.3 and kynaptic says it's already installed.. there are also 3.4s and 4.0s and i switched by changing the softlinks.. like gcc->gcc-3.4.. but maybe there's a better way than changing the links.. now i want to switch to 3.3.. should i reinstall 3.3 or remove the other versions?.. or is "export CC=*" enough to tell the compiler to use the 3.3 version?01:28
god-zeroexportCC will set default compiler 'till next exportCC or reboot01:28
konsoleboxoic thanks01:29
naliothkonsolebox: in your terminal type "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" or whatever version you want to use01:29
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DocTomoeChanging groups will require new login. will be back in 3-4 01:30
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konsoleboxanybody here who had some problems with intel-agp?01:31
nikkiayes, its rubbish :)01:31
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tuxfansorry i got engrossed in installing kdevelop:).........so is there no other way to get these gui apps to work with my rot password?01:31
nikkiai use nvidia's own agpart provided with their drivers01:31
konsoleboxhow bout on ati?01:32
nikkiaintel-agp has a habit of slowing down the graphics after a day or so of uptime, and needing a reboot01:32
tuxfanwhere can i get mplayer, libdvdcss2 etc? i added backports but it says no such file/dir!01:32
god-zeroI tested breezy against my intel 845gv, only had to edit monitor in xorg.conf01:32
nikkiakonsolebox: i believe ATI provide their own agpgart too, but i'm not sure01:32
kasimciao and thanks01:33
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DocTomoethanks for the help. sound now works fine01:33
konsoleboxi onced removed intel-agp and once successfully run x with agp and drm loaded but when i installed ati control.. no more again01:34
konsoleboxwhat i want to do is to enable the direct rendering.. it must appear in glxinfo.. direct rendering=yes01:34
konsoleboxbut it won't work if i can't load the modules01:35
tuxfan where can i get mplayer, libdvdcss2 etc? i added backports but it says no such file/dir!01:35
naliothubotu: tell tuxfan about dvd01:35
konsoleboxdo u know a good support channel for ati drivers?01:35
DocTomoetuxfan: have you enabled multiverse and universe in your /etc/apt/sources.list?01:36
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tuxfanive enabled the extras..but it says couldnt stat source package list??01:40
ubotuwell, hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted01:40
DocTomoemaybe the server is down.01:41
DocTomoeThe "Dapper Goals" link mentioned in the channel topic is obsolete and points to some kind of conference preparation page. It should be removed. 01:43
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os2macI have a question about the Kubuntu live release...01:44
DocTomoeos2mac ... just ask01:45
os2macis there a way to save my configuation?01:45
os2macI.E. everytime I boot up I have to go install ndiswrapper and configure my nick....01:45
os2maci would like to be able to save the configuration to my thumbdrive.01:46
DocTomoeos2mac: you should be able to write a shell script for this and write it on a disk. If you need it, execute it.01:46
os2macI was able to write a script to configure the nic... but there are other settings I want saved as well. 01:47
os2macand how do you add a package from the prompt?01:47
DocTomoeos2mac: user settings or system settings?01:47
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os2macbut mostly user settings..... theme, book marks etc.01:48
DocTomoeyou could save the /home/ubuntu directory to your thumb and recopy it when needed or started up.01:48
os2macthere is an application in another distro that does this.... (Kanotix) but I don't like their hardware recognition (or lack there of) 01:49
os2macwant distro is Ubuntu based on?01:50
naliothos2mac: debian01:50
os2macso I wonder if it would be possible to port this functionality into Kubuntu?01:50
os2macbut I am sure it's beyond my abilities.01:51
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os2mac you there?02:09
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insanekanegod-zero: have you installed build-essential on breezy ?02:15
insanekanehas anyone successfully installed build-essential on breezy ?02:16
naliothinsanekane: yes02:16
insanekaneoh hmm ...02:16
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insanekanenalioth: could you check the version of cpp that you have on your system ?02:16
insanekanei have some error trying to install 4ubuntu802:17
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god-zeroinsanekane: not on right now.. this install is only a few days old02:17
naliothinsanekane: 4.0.202:18
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god-zeroih, it is installed (when'd i do that?)02:18
insanekanenalioth: could you post the entire string ?? its funny that you have 4.0.2 ... are you using the standard repositories ?02:19
os2macjust checking to see if my wlan0 was configured ....02:19
god-zero4.0.2 2005080802:19
os2macI modified my script to use apt-get.02:19
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insanekanei get an error trying to install cpp-4.0_4.0.1-4ubuntu8_i386.deb :///02:20
Leshrac!tell leshrac about wine02:20
insanekanegod-zero: please tell me the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list ... :)02:21
insanekanei have all of breezy (main, restricted, universe and multiverse) and the kde3.5 beta02:21
naliothinsanekane: standard repos from 02:21
naliothubotu: tell insanekane about sources02:21
naliothinsanekane: the kde repos have nothing to do with it02:22
naliothinsanekane: neither do backports02:22
Leshrachow can I check what version of kde am I running?02:24
god-zerohelp | about kde02:25
god-zeroinsanekane: int's in main development02:25
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Flokerhey whazzup02:36
Flokeroh, i know, its 5oclock or so in usa =) np,02:37
Leshrac14:37 in spain, so really no problem02:37
Hobbsee10.38pm in australia02:38
naliothFloker: 5am? you must be on the left coast02:38
Flokeri'm in europe02:38
Flokerits 14:38 over here02:38
god-zeroI've never heard it called the left coast02:38
Leshracbtw, there's something I don't understand, if I type sudo -s it gets me to root, if I type sudo su, it does too, but if I enter solely "su" my password does not work02:38
Flokersounds kool02:38
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FlokerLeshrac: only the superuser can log on as superuser?02:39
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Flokerhehe, weird but thats it i think02:39
Floker(i dont live at any coast actually)02:39
naliothFloker: it's 5am or so in california,oregon, and washington states02:40
nalioththe rest of the US has been out of bed for hours02:40
Flokerkde says in LA its 5am02:41
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god-zerowell, it is saturday... more than 1 or 2 hangovers I'd suspect02:41
Flokerand <heroic>i belive in kde</heroic>02:41
naliothFloker: it is correct, the rest of the USA is ahead of that time, tho02:42
naliothit's 0745 here in Houston02:42
Flokeri cannot imagine to live in a country with more than one timezone02:43
naliothFloker: we only have 4. Texas has 202:43
Flokerespecially if you live near a timezone border02:43
Flokernow thats cool =)02:44
Flokeryou speak of tx like its a different country ;)02:44
Flokerin germany we do that with bavaria. 'cus they speak kinda weird02:44
god-zerothat's what we say about tx too02:45
naliothFloker: we'd like to be02:45
naliothbayern ist scherne02:45
Kamping_KaiserFloker: lol. only one timezone02:46
Flokeryeah bavaria would like that too, thay have a party called the "bayern parei". they say smt like "if we were a sole country we had 10% less unemployed" they're kinda funny02:46
DocTomoeBayern is also the only place in germany where you can have your own nationality ... "Bayerische Staatsbrgerschaft". There even is something like a bavarian passport (tought I have nebver actually known someone who had it.02:47
Flokerfor real?02:47
Kamping_Kaiseryeh. you krouts are hilarious02:47
insanekanenalioth: i do know abt the standard breezy repos ... thing is, it causes an error for me :/02:47
DocTomoejupp. I studies in Munich, I actually was asked if I had the german or the bavarian nationality02:47
naliothFloker: Ich wohnte in Nuremburg fr 6 Jahre.02:47
DocTomoestudied. 02:48
naliothinsanekane: give it a couple of weeks02:48
insanekanenalioth: all i have are breezy (main, restricted, universe and multiverse)02:48
naliothinsanekane: breezy is still in developement02:48
insanekanenalioth: right .. so you didnt install build-essential from the repos ?02:48
naliothinsanekane: they carried over from my hoary install02:48
insanekanenalioth: ah right :/02:48
Flokernalioth: have you ever been at the "nordschleife"?02:49
god-zeromine didn't carry over.. virgin install02:49
naliothFloker: i cant remember enough deutch to save my life02:49
god-zeroinsanekane:  what error02:50
naliothFloker: was ist nordschleife?02:50
Flokernordschleife = race-circuit02:50
Flokerthe coolest one all over the world02:50
DocTomoeoh, they do installations, too? I tought they were into flight, spaceflight and entertainment ...02:50
insanekanegod-zero: the error is 02:50
insanekanegod-zero: the error, i have pasted as a private message to you ... so that i shouldn't paste to the channel02:51
naliothFloker: sorry that is one thing i missed while there02:51
god-zeroI see. ouch looks like a bad download02:51
god-zeropurge it02:51
naliothFloker: i mainly saw things over 300 years old02:51
Flokeri have never been there too =)02:51
Flokerwhat we call culture =)02:52
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Flokerthe autobahn is one of the few thinks, germany can be proud about02:53
DocTomoeThe autobahn is great, if you drive Audi, BMW or Mercedes. With my Mazda, it kinda sucks.02:53
gdhYou don't think lederhosen should be cherished? :)02:53
Flokerbut after the latest elections, it looks like there is gonna be a general speedlimit :(02:53
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Flokerlederhosen = bavaria != germany02:54
gdhAh OK :)02:54
DocTomoefloker, we will see about it. currently, we do not even know who exactly won that election. 02:54
god-zeroFloker: noooooo!02:54
gdhJust a 'view from the outside' :)02:54
Flokerthe german elections were quite weird02:54
Flokeryou us guys could have watched it on cnn02:55
god-zeroI tried, but it made no sence02:55
gdhMore weird then the US elections because most of the electorate could at least tie their shoelaces without drooling :)02:55
Flokeri've held a speech about the us-elections on my school02:55
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DocTomoemore weird, because everyone won and loosed. simultanly.02:55
Flokeri know what went wrong02:55
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Flokerover here, the major parties have a difference of 3 seats in the parliament02:56
Flokerthey reign proportionally to their votes.02:57
Flokerand there will be a ballot about the furure chancelor. that the most weird thing.02:57
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DocTomoewell, the weird thing is that it is probable that none of the prospected chancellor-candidates actually well be elected. Boy, it *was* easy when there were just 4 parties to worry about ;)02:59
Flokerthe fifth one is funny, nobody exept of 12% (or so) of the voters want them =)03:00
Floker(for those who dont know: its a SORT OF socialism party)03:01
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inc|freakynalioth: what kind of bot is ubotu?03:10
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:11
Hobbseeone written to answer the most common questions?03:12
sedekibest program viewing images?03:13
naliothinc|freaky: a bloot-bot03:13
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naliothsedeki: there are dozens of image viewers03:13
naliothsedeki: feh is a good one03:14
inc|freakynalioth: ah, i should know perl if i want to run one right?03:14
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naliothinc|freaky: i  believe it's a python bot03:14
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inc|freakyah, then i should know python?03:14
sedekii've installed xfce, and i wonder why it hasn't set a handler for images.03:14
naliothinc|freaky: not really03:15
naliothsedeki: there are dozens of image viewers for x, for console, for kde, gnome, xfce, etc03:16
naliotheveryone loves their pR0N03:16
sedekinalioth i bet.03:17
inc|freakynalioth: could i run one even i dont know python? 03:17
inc|freakynalioth: can it use mysql as db?03:18
sedekiyou know any ones for xfce?03:18
naliothinc|freaky: you can run one easily03:18
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inc|freakynalioth: ok thx :D03:18
naliothsedeki: xv feh03:18
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littlepaulping amu03:19
inc|freakynalioth: do you think its safe updating kde to 3.5 beta1?03:19
naliothinc|freaky: hmm "beta"03:20
inc|freakywill 3.5 be released into breezy?03:20
Hobbseeno, it was too late for feature freeze03:20
Hobbseeit'll be in backports, apparently03:21
naliothinc|freaky: it will be in backports, i'm sure03:21
Hobbseekde 3.5 beta seems more stable than 3.4.x03:21
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inc|freakyim currently using 3.4.203:24
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Hobbseeit's at least as stable than that, if not more so...and it has some nice new features03:25
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inc|freakyawkay ill update ;D03:25
Hobbseeyou'll need to reboot, or kill all x and restart it...03:26
Hobbseereboot is generally the way to go03:26
god-zerois there gunna be a beta 2?03:26
Hobbseefor kde? got no idea, havent checked the kde site03:27
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Hobbseecouldnt find a roadmap there for some reason - i'm sure i've seen it somewhere03:33
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DocTomoeI think users should be discouraged from using adept. adept's developers are willing to sacrifice system stability because warnings are too obstrusive (see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112819)03:35
DocTomoe[yes, the reporter is me] 03:36
kozzHobbsee: http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.5-release-plan.html03:38
Hobbseekozz: thanks, i'm sure that wasnt there when i looked before :P03:39
Hobbseekozz: i'm sure it....vanished...for a while...03:39
god-zeroDocTomoe: ouch kozz : thanks03:39
Hobbseenice...so we can upgrade to breezy, and then get beta 203:40
apokryphosDocTomoe: I actually agree with you -- it pobably should have one03:40
Hobbseevery nice03:40
apokryphosDocTomoe: the synaptic one works quite well, I think.03:40
ztonzyapokryphos, hi03:41
apokryphosztonzy: hey man, how's it going :)03:41
ztonzyapokryphos, fine thanks, you?03:41
apokryphosztonzy: really well, thanks; in university now :)03:42
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ztonzyapokryphos, finally? or...? I am into plumber world now03:42
apokryphosnice; how's it going so far?03:43
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kozzHobbsee: heh, maybe ;)03:43
ztonzyapokryphos, slowly forward, but heavy work03:43
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Hobbsee*raises eyebrows* so there's a kde 3.4.3 release a few days before the beta 2 of kde 3.5?03:44
apokryphosztonzy: good money? ;-)03:44
Hobbseewhat would be the point in that?03:44
ztonzyapokryphos, no not yet, internship03:44
apokryphosah yeah03:45
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Lord_Athurhi every one03:46
ztonzyapokryphos, wont be happening until in 1-2 years 03:47
apokryphosouch; quite some time :)03:47
apokryphosit'll be worth it 03:47
ztonzyhopefully...loads of works then03:47
ztonzytired of the unemployment03:47
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havocnalioth: where in the world are you?03:53
peter_hey folks03:54
peter_anyone got an idea why i don't get the nice splash screen during boot?03:54
DocTomoepeter_: maybe you disabled it in kcontrol?03:54
peter_i have "quiet splash" on my kernel boot command line?03:55
peter_no i did not disable it...03:55
naliothhavoc: i'm in Houston, Tx03:55
peter_on my laptop it displays beautifully ... on this comp it does not show at all... *sigh*03:55
DocTomoepeter_: boot splash or kde splash?03:55
havocnalioth: ah, was just curious based on your hours here03:55
peter_boot splash03:55
DocTomoedoes your kernel have framebuffer support?03:55
naliothhavoc: my hours here are as eclectic as I am03:56
peter_umm.. i'm not sure.. i use the standard linux-image that came with the 5.10 installation...03:56
havocyeah, I've noticed :)03:56
DocTomoepeter_: I have breezy running on 4 machines - and a bootsplash on no one. where those "real" installations or upgrades from hoary?03:56
peter_on the laptop i did an 'apt-get dist-upgrade'... the same on my other comp03:57
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peter_it's pretty weird that the same operation results in quite different behaviour :-)03:59
DocTomoehm, I am just looking at my grub menu.lst ... there is a reference to some splash screen, but I actually never have seen one... 03:59
peter_it looks nice actually ;-) 04:00
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insanekaneDocTomoe: maybe your fb settings are whack04:03
peter___how do one set the fb settings then?04:03
insanekanepeter___: try fiddling with the vga setting in the grub line i guess04:04
peter___been there done that... the only thing that changes seems to be the text size...04:05
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inc|freakychecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!04:05
inc|freakyFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.04:05
inc|freakyhow can i fix this? i did ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt3 04:06
peter___did you build qt with --enable-threads?04:06
inc|freakyi didnt compile it myself i used the package04:06
naliothinc|freaky: you need the qt dev libraries04:06
inc|freakyah awkay thought i have them04:06
DocTomoeinsanekane ... peter also has this problem. be are all using the standard kernel :)04:06
naliothinc|freaky: perhaps you're missing one or two04:06
inc|freakywhats the package called?04:06
DocTomoeinc@freaky: sudo apt-get install kdesdk04:07
insanekaneDocTomoe, peter___ : see, there may be problems concerning the fb of your video card ... see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplash04:07
inc|freakythankyou :D04:07
peter___thanx... i have a ATI radeon 9800 XT... maybe that is not supported?04:08
naliothinc|freaky: synaptic or kynaptic?04:09
inc|freakyim using apt-get04:09
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inc|freakyand im running breezy so, adept ;D04:09
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insanekanepeter___: ah, now comes the point :) I read about problems with radeon :)04:09
naliothinc|freaky: fire up *ynaptic and search for libqt04:09
naliothinc|freaky: check off the -dev siblings to your isntalled ones04:10
inc|freakythememoodin.h:20:25: error: themeengine.h: No such file or directory04:10
inc|freakydid anyone happen to get mooding installed?04:10
inc|freakynalioth: thx i got it it was kdesdk ;)04:10
inc|freakybut im using kde3.5 beta1 and now i have the kde4 libs installed04:11
insanekanepeter___: check this thread (don't know if it will be useful though) http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20050927.165405.992e468d.en.html04:11
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cynehow do i edit my repositories for kynaptic?04:12
peter___yup! the usplash is definitely what's installed on my laptop... i wonder how it got in there? ;-)04:12
naliothcyne: "anyone" is nonproductive04:14
cynenalioth: please sir, will you tell me how to add a repository to kynaptic?04:14
havoccyne: options -> repostitories ?04:15
naliothubotu: tell cyne about repos04:15
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mr_oweni need serious help with my kubuntu04:15
peter___cyne: vi /etc/apt/sources.list04:15
cyneuboto: tell me about repositories04:15
cyneok thanks peter___ 04:15
peter___de nada04:15
mr_oweni need help installing a wifi card on my laptop :(04:16
havocmr_owen: please be very specific when stating your problem04:16
havocmr_owen: like type of wifi card, version of ubuntu, etc...04:16
mr_owenbelkin g54 7010 card04:16
Tonio-hi everyone04:17
Tonio-has anyone tried the j2re plugin in multiverse ?04:17
havocubotu: tell mr_owen about wifi04:17
Tonio-it craches firefox and doesn't work in konqueror for me04:17
havocmr_owen: look at what ubotu sent you04:17
naliothubotu: tell Tonio- about javadeb04:17
naliothTonio-: there is no java in multiverse04:17
inc|freakyis there a way i can get the libs for kde3.5 as im using it?04:18
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naliothinc|freaky: i dont understand04:18
mr_owenhavoc: i need to setup the card04:19
Tonio-nalioth: what are those packages in multiverse ?04:19
mr_owenit doesn't recognize the hardware i think04:19
sedekimr_owen does your card have official support?04:19
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naliothTonio-: what packages? Sun Java is illegal to redistribute04:19
mr_oweni don't think so04:19
inc|freakynalioth: kdelibs4-dev - development files for the KDE core libraries <-- what does the 4 mean?04:20
sedekieither in kernel or from manicaturer04:20
Tonio-in multiverse04:20
mr_oweni allready found i have to do something with wrapper but i don't understand it04:20
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sedekimr_owen use wrapper as a last option04:20
sedekitry finding native drivers04:20
os2macmr owen I use ndiswrapper 04:20
naliothinc|freaky: it's for kde4?04:21
naliothinc|freaky: i have no idea04:21
os2macsedeki are you aware of native broadcom drivers?04:21
sedekii found drivers for my acx1xx chipset.04:21
inc|freakystrange things happening again04:21
sedekiand everybody kept telling me about ndiswrapper04:21
os2macI am using ndiswrappe with bcmwl5.inf and it works fine.04:22
sedekii'm just saying, use it as a last option.04:22
os2macMr Owen do you know the name of the driver for your NIC in windows?04:22
os2macwhat is it?04:23
os2macwould that the name of of the .inf file?04:24
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mr_owenof the package file04:25
mr_owenlike when you download it04:25
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mr_owenthat's not what you want probably04:25
os2macwhat is the name of the windows .inf file when you useit under windows04:26
mr_oweni don't know04:26
mr_owenunless you know where i can find it on the windows drive04:26
os2macare you using the live CD or dual booting?04:26
mr_owendual booting04:26
mr_owenbut grub messed up and i can't boot windows anymore04:26
os2macwhat kind of laptop?/04:26
os2macor computer.04:27
mr_owenbut i can acces the partition with windows on it becoz its fat3204:27
mr_owenacer 135004:27
mr_owenand the belkin card is installed on windows04:27
os2macok hang on a sec...04:27
mr_owenso if you know the location of that driver i can look it up04:27
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cynei have this page: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb but when i start kynzptic i get "malformed line" with this line in the /etc/apt/sources.list : deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary 04:30
os2macthat shows you how to setup NDISwrapper04:30
os2macbut not now to configure the wlan0 afterward. and assumes you know the driver name04:30
os2macbut you should be able to find that on the manufacturers website.04:31
os2macand you need to find it on the HDD04:31
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mr_oweni will look into that leeter when i'm at home04:32
mr_owendo you also know how i can configure grub04:33
os2macnope never used it.04:33
mr_owencoz it won' let me choose between linux and windows04:33
os2macI am on a live CD on my laptop with xp installed.04:33
mr_oweni found the inf file04:33
mr_owencould you please go step by step with me04:33
mr_owencoz i really don't know what to do04:33
mr_owenand i really need to get this card working04:34
cyneforget that i worked it out04:34
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os2macmr_owen check your PM's04:38
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MachineScrewany one know what the latest version of usplash is04:48
inc|freakydoes any1 know where i can download a bloot bot?04:49
sladenMachineScrew: apt-cache show usplash  04:50
sladenMachineScrew: apt-cache show usplash  | grep Version:04:51
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MachineScrewsladen: so 0.1-1804:53
cynewho is it here that wanted to run visual basic?04:54
MachineScrewafter running sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`04:55
MachineScrewi get this cpio: ./usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so: No such file or directory04:55
MachineScrewbut it is there04:56
sladenMachineScrew: try  dpkg-divert --auto usplash-artwork.so04:56
sladenalthough I think that has just been backed out.  apt-get upgrade and try again04:57
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MachineScrewsladen: I found the there where invalid links pointing to things that where not there and I fixe them05:01
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MachineScrewno I don't get the error05:01
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_stefanyow, question, How can I install kubuntu from harddisk from an iso-file,05:04
_stefanI know you can burn it and so on ... normaly I do it this way05:04
_stefanbut on my old pc it doesn't work with cd's05:04
insanekane_stefan: you can use VMWare, bochs, etc for it05:04
insanekane_stefan: but you need an existing OS for it to work05:04
_stefancan't you boot from the iso?05:05
_stefanisn't that an easier way05:05
insanekane_stefan: thats what VMWare etc does ... they boot from the ISO05:05
_stefanyes, but than you have to install these programs05:05
_stefanI don't want to spent time with installing such applications05:05
insanekaneindeed, in order for a piece of software to work, you need to install it05:05
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_stefanI want to just boot, so make some option in grub that I can boot from an iso05:06
insanekane_stefan: oh well, then burn on a CDROM/DVD/CDRW/DVD-RW etc etc05:06
_stefanI've ever seen it before online, but I can't find it anymore05:06
juanfehello all05:06
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insanekane_stefan: yes, the GRUB project is probably looking for help ... why don't you help them out by creating something like what you are asking ?05:06
_stefanit was something with loop etc..05:06
u19809what is the state of suspend2 in hoary ?05:06
insanekane_stefan: you are probably talking abt cloop files ?05:07
juanfewhat's the last stable version of Ubuntu distribution, Hoary or Breezy??05:07
_stefanI've done it ever before, booting from an iso on harddisk05:07
hydrogenhoary is stable right now05:07
u19809afaik breezy is still beta ?05:07
_stefanso I can install05:07
hydrogenbreezy is quite stable however05:08
_stefanbtw I'm using kubuntu breezy now, it's cute and good for now, better than the hoary (if you know how to configure to get how you want it)05:08
juanfeI think breezy is the official ubuntu in October05:09
insanekanejuanfe: yes05:09
_stefanthx 2 u, I know how to find my problem, looking in google after how to boot from iso in grub05:10
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juanfehow update to breezy when breezy went stable? is automatic the update from hoary to breezy or I have to change the repositories?05:11
Kamping_KaiserJuerd: you have to change them05:11
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Kamping_Kaiser* juanfe05:12
Kamping_Kaiseryou have to change them05:12
Kamping_Kaiseryou change 'hoary' to 'breezy'05:12
Kamping_Kaiserthen update like normal :)05:12
juanfefrom synaptic?05:12
Kamping_Kaiserif you want. i use apt- myself05:13
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MachineScrewyes it worked05:26
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_stefanhttp://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-initrd this was what I was looking for (and used before)05:27
MachineScrewthere was a link in /usr/lib/uspalsh/ubuntu-default.so /etc/alternitives/ubuntu-default.so /usr/share/usplash/ubuntu-default.so05:28
MachineScrewthe resulting ubuntu-default.so wasn't there but it was in /usr/lib/usplash so I copied them to /usr/share/usplash/05:29
MachineScrewand edited the link in /etc/alternitives/ to point to kubuntu-splash.so05:29
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MachineScrewso there it is05:30
vitriolkde is freezing when i try to log in. i have an ati 200m vid card and it freezes when i use ati or vesa driver with dri off or on05:30
MachineScrewapokryphos: are you here05:31
vitriolany ideas?05:31
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MachineScrewvitriol: not here05:31
MachineScrewvitriol: are you using the frame buffer05:31
vitriolMachineScrew: i don't think so05:31
vitriolMachineScrew: how do i know for sure that i'm not using frame buffer?05:32
vitriolthe video card is really new and i'm not suprised that it's freezing like this05:32
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MachineScrewvitriol: your logs or look in the config in /etc/X11/xorg.con05:32
vitriolthats a thought :)05:32
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MachineScrewvitriol: what kind of ATI card is it05:34
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konsoleboxexcuse me .. where do i get the X11R6 libs and modules? package name?05:35
jsubl2vitriol: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:35
vitriolbinary driver?05:35
MachineScrewvitriol: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI 05:36
jsubl2has info on installing the ati drivers05:36
vitriolguess i could try that05:36
vitrioli get sick of those ati drivers though05:36
jsubl2that link links to the one MachineScrew  posted05:36
vitriolthey're so flaky 05:36
MachineScrewvitriol: ya that is your best bet05:36
vitrioli'll try that...if it doesn't work i'll just try using breezy05:36
jsubl2well i have nvidia so that is the best i can do for you vitriol 05:36
vitrioljsubl2: you're lucky to have your nvidia ;)05:37
MachineScrewvitriol: i have a ATI IGP 340M05:37
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jsubl2vitriol: it is a must.. i would not buy most of the laptops on the market today because they are ati graphics05:37
konsoleboxi need libdri.a, libdrm.a, libGLcore.a and libglx.a05:37
MachineScrewits a laptop05:37
jsubl2vitriol: a year ago i sold a laptop cheap to get a way from ati05:37
MachineScrewkonsolebox: can you get into kynaptic ?05:38
vitriolMachineScrew: the ati cards are physically great cards05:38
vitriolcan't argue with that05:38
konsoleboxno prob why?05:38
vitriolbut their linux driver support....05:39
jsubl2vitriol: if you have trouble getting it up far enough to do the howto you might be able to change the  driver from ati to vesa in /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:39
vitrioljsubl2: it freezes on vesa too05:39
MachineScrewkonsolebox: you can search for what you need there05:39
vitrioli can use elinks + gpm tho to look at the wiki05:39
jsubl2wow.. well good luck.. tried http://ubuntuforums.org05:39
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konsoleboxi don't know the package name.. "i use apt-cache search ."05:40
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MachineScrewkonsolebox: you don't need to just look for xorg05:40
_poluxis there a way in kubuntu-desktop to get information of available updates in the system tray like in the ubuntu gnome desktop ?05:41
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jsubl2vitriol: you on hoary or breezy05:42
MachineScrew_polux: ya I want the same05:42
MachineScrewin system there is system update wizard 05:43
MachineScrewbut won't show up in the systray05:43
_poluxin kde ?05:43
jsubl2vitriol: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6527605:44
MachineScrewK --> System --> System Update Wizard05:44
MachineScrewit is called adept05:45
MachineScrewbut that is the only thing I know05:45
MachineScrewI would also like it in the systray05:45
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kurtanyone know if there is newer version of game available somewhere for kubuntu?05:47
kurtI mean gaim. :-)05:47
Kamping_Kaiser1.5 is in breezy05:47
MachineScrewwhy not kopete05:47
Kamping_Kaisernot sure if kubuntu likes it htough (bei9ng gtk)05:48
Kamping_Kaiser*though *being05:48
kurtit works just fine as long as you gtk installed.  I just need meanwhile support and I installed the meanwhile libraries but they won't work with the old versin of gaim in ubuntu.05:48
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=== Kamping_Kaiser counts down to breezy stable... 11 days to go :o
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insanekaneKamping_Kaiser: only 11 days ? so many things to fix :/05:49
Kamping_Kaiseryeh :S its getting intence for the devs im sure.05:50
Kamping_Kaiseri had a few bugs i cant report because i cant remember my bugzilla pwd, and tis on the other pc (which is broken)05:50
Kamping_Kaisernot show stoppers, but still irritations05:50
kurtwould a package from breezy work in hoary?05:51
chavoI upgraded to breezy when the preview came out, but haven't dist-upgraded since05:52
MachineScrewyou would have dependency problems05:52
Kamping_Kaiserit may need some poking, butit should. check if its in backports kurt. just remember to be very carefull with them05:52
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crtrhow to open .ram ?05:53
kurtcrtr: probably real player05:53
kurtor helix05:53
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mustafuI dist-upgraded today and found on the next boot that the splash bootup screen disappeared....anyone have similar trouble?05:57
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lenweI all ..06:01
lenweIs there french guy here ?06:01
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NightieHello, is there any difference between "installing breezy preview and update it daily" and "wait for the final release"?06:02
NightieHello, is there any difference between "installing breezy preview and update it daily" and "wait for the final release"?06:02
Kamping_Kaisernot realy no,and dont repeat questions06:02
Nightiesorry for double question06:03
konsoleboxplease.. i stil cant find the package.. (for /usr/X11R6/lib/modules)06:03
lenweHas someone test LTSP with breezy ?06:03
Nightieis kcontrol working in administrator mode now?06:03
Kamping_Kaiserlenwe: i have played with it, but didnt get very far06:03
Kamping_Kaiserbecause i was doing tftp, not pxe06:04
lenweI try LTSP package of breezy and have some probleme ...06:04
lenweI use pxe, and A thinclient boot very slow ...06:04
mustafunightie: updating is great for instant gratification06:05
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Kamping_Kaiserkonsolebox: check you have xserver-xorg-* installed06:06
Kamping_Kaiserbut what you need exactly depends on whats missing06:06
Nightiewhat does mustafu mean?06:06
Kamping_Kaisernot sure Nightie :O06:08
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Tm_Tkaiser o/06:12
Kamping_Kaiserhave you got any idea what the time is here :S06:13
jsubl2where is here06:13
Kamping_Kaiserhere is central australia06:14
jsubl22:14 am06:14
naliothhere we go again06:14
Kamping_Kaiserif my clocks right06:14
Kamping_Kaiserlol nalioth06:15
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Kamping_Kaisernight all. "time is an illusion: lunchtime doubly so"06:18
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Philyhello anyone in here06:34
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Philysure is quiet06:39
naliothPhily: thought you had a question or something06:40
Philynope just taking a break from mowing the lawn06:40
naliothPhily: if you buy sheep, you wont have to do that06:41
Philynalioth: well with my 2 boys I better get a cow free milk and short grass!06:41
nalioththe manure from a cow is unsightly06:41
naliothgo for the happy medium....goats!06:42
Philynalioth: maybe I could train the cow06:42
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nalioththat'd be something to see06:43
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Ubelquie again06:47
Ubelquiet again06:47
gdhToo quiet - pretty soon I'll start to hear the voices in my head again.06:49
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Ubelgdh: quiet please, my voices are trying to say something06:53
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Ubelhow are you gdh?06:56
gdhMy head still hurts. I wish it would stop. It wouldn't bother me if it was sore due to injury or drink.. has just been a yucky cold / flu thing I've had for a week :(06:57
naliothgdh: whiskey06:57
gdhthere's no lack of that around here, for sure :)06:58
gdh"a bloke on IRC told me to drink it!"06:58
gdhthat beats 'the voices told me to!"06:58
naliothwhiskey silences the voices06:58
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helpmei installed opera....cant find it in kmenu!07:00
naliothubotu: tell helpme about smeg07:00
helpmenalioth: im using kubuntu, nit ubuntu07:00
helpmewait a min..kappfinder found it:)07:01
naliothhelpme: kde has a built in menu editor07:01
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helpmei installed opera via synaptic (it was deb but not ubuntu deb i guess)....it wont load....in terminal it says error while loading shared libraries: libs tdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:09
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naliothhelpme: read the opera site for dependencies07:10
helpmetheres nothing there....i didnt download it from there...i added  an opera deb repo and installed via synaptic07:10
naliothhelpme: ooooh07:11
naliothnot good07:11
naliothget the deb from opera.com07:11
helpmebut since its deb it should work....07:11
helpmethere are 2 debs on opera site..one for ubuntu...another a debian package....07:12
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stupendo5Hey, everyone. what should I see in /usr/src/linux/include? Supposedly there's supposed to be linux, asm, and net directories, but the only directory I see is linux. I see asm and net, but they don't appear to be directories.07:13
naliothhelpme: use the ubuntu deb (k)ubuntu is the same animal07:13
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helpmei see07:16
helpmestupendo5: do show hidden files in konq...then maybe?07:17
stupendo5I'm using the terminal, does that change anything?07:17
naliothhelpme: show hidden files for what?07:17
naliothstupendo5: not a thing07:17
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helpmestupendo5: ls -a07:18
helpmethis is a quiet channel:)07:19
stupendo5what are the ones in red?07:19
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stupendo5when I do ls -a, I get linux and config in blue, and the rest in red07:20
helpmered ones? hmm...on my kubuntu....i see a tar.gz file in red07:21
naliothstupendo5: some are directories, some are executables07:22
stupendo5ok, I know linux is a directory, so probably config is too. The others must be executables.07:22
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stupendo5here's a pic of what I have: http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=usrsrclinuxinclude6mi.png07:28
stupendo5is that normal?07:28
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naliothstupendo5: looks ok to me07:30
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stupendo5I'm having some trouble installing vmware tools, so I was just checking07:31
stupendo5vmware tools says that something is apparently missing07:31
naliothvmware is a pita, try qemu07:35
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naliothi know what it is telling you07:36
naliothvmware sucks07:36
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chavostupendo5, did you apt-get install linux-headers07:36
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stupendo5I have a pic above of my headers directory07:37
chavostupendo5, linux-headers are installed in /usr/src/linux-headers-'kerner-version'07:39
stupendo5my past experience with qemu hasn't been that great. Mainly because at the time I didn't want to spend a lot of time on it. And it wasn't as easy as virtual pc or vmware.07:40
stupendo5chavo, I made a smlnk to linux07:40
chavostupendo5, no need for that07:41
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stupendo5but even if I point vmware tools setup to the correct dir, it gives the same message07:42
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chavostupendo5, the path is /usr/src/linux07:44
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chavoyou don't want the include at the end07:44
stupendo5the setup supposedly is looking for that. It's the default. I didn't add that07:45
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gdhI use vmware on kubuntu. I have no /usr/src/linux dir. vmware-config.pl looks in /lib/modules/<KERNELNAME>/build .. which is a symlink to the real directory containing the headers... e.g.07:46
PhilyDoes anyone know hoe t set the rubber band option in kde 3.4.2 or is this a patch07:46
gdhls -l /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/07:46
gdhlrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     35 Sep 23 19:51 build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-68607:46
stupendo5I using vmware on windows xp with kubuntu as the guest os. I'm trying to isntall only vmware tools on kubuntu so that I can access the shared folders07:47
chavoPhily, it's a patch that kubuntu added, I'm not sure if you can turn it off07:47
Philychavo: it is not active on my system hoary07:48
Philychavo: so this is a breezy feature07:48
chavoPhily, I think it's in 3.5 only07:48
gdhstupendo5: OK, I have never done it that way round. However, there is no need for the vmware tools .. network your windows host and linux instance together as if they were 2 standalone computers07:48
gdhstupendo5: get linux to connect to a share on your windows PC.. or get windows to connect to a Samba share...07:48
stupendo5I'll try that07:49
stupendo5I'll have to change the network setting07:49
Philychavo: is 3.5 stable 07:49
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Philychavo:  is it worth the upgarde07:49
chavoPhily, it is for me, but I don't use the packages07:49
PhilyChambers-:  youve compiled it?07:50
Philycan i run both kde version07:50
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whoiamanybody know how can I install qt dev. packages (I want to run make xconfig)07:52
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naliothwhoiam: use kynaptic and install the -dev pkgs for the libqt pkgs you have now (search for libqt)07:53
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kozzdo someone know where the manpages for OpenGL is located, in which package?08:03
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matty_i need some help 08:07
matty_i want to make my laptop dual boot with windows xp and kubuntu08:08
matty_how should i do this ? 08:08
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kkathmangood day all :)08:08
naliothmr_owen: there is a nice article on wiki.ubuntu.com08:09
Tm_Tkkathman: hoj!08:10
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orace|hey guys08:13
orace|configuring my touchpad using ksynaptic (kcontrol) doesn't affect the touchpad at all08:13
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orace|the settings are saved, but the touchpad behaves the same08:13
orace|I remember I had to add something to the inputdevice section in my xorg.conf, but I don't remember what08:13
orace|anyone got a clue?08:13
Tm_Tkkathman: what's up old pal08:15
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kkathmanhey Tm_T   wassup :)08:26
kkathmansorry got busy with something08:26
kkathmanTm_T:  have you upgraded to breezy yet?08:26
Tm_Tkkathman: yup08:28
Tm_Tkkathman: was total mess08:28
Tm_Tbut now, working almost perfectly08:28
kkathmanoh really?08:29
Tm_Tonly lack of working nvidia08:29
kkathmanhmm guess I08:29
kkathmanhad better not go yet then08:29
Tm_Twhy not08:29
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kkathmanthey seem to be very slow getting this release out ..or maybe thats just my perceptio08:29
Tm_TI bet it's just my configuration etc08:29
kkathmanprobably better to wait till the official release I gues08:30
Tm_TI had so much own setups that breezy messed it, was "fun" fixing it08:30
kkathmandang my keyboard is SOOO bad...gotta get a new one08:30
kUbelkkathman:  I will write for you08:31
Tm_Tkkathman: recommend logitech ultrax flat :)08:31
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Logigood evening08:37
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kUbelhello Logi08:37
kUbelea Blessaur jafnvel08:37
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LogikUbel: sll (not on UTF-8...)08:39
kUbelthat's allright - I think we should write in english :)08:39
LogikUbel: btw, do we have a local [k] ubuntu mirror?08:40
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Logiof course...08:40
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kUbelstupid question - is kubuntu your first linux distro?08:41
kUbelor do you have expirence with Linux before?08:41
kUbelyour url sounds familiar08:41
LogiI've been on debian for... 10 years?08:41
kUbelI think I have seen you on some mailing lists - don't remember which ones08:42
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LogikUbel: I don't run klaki, my good friend Bjarni does08:42
LogikUbel: kde translation?08:42
kUbelah yes08:42
kUbelI used to follow that one08:42
Logiyeah, I was the leader and most active translator for a while - now I've got a life and a real job :)08:42
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kUbelI tried the ICelandic translation yesterday08:43
kUbelIt's ok - you and the rest of the group have done alot more than I thought you would have done08:43
kUbelbut it still has few things like "loka setu" which makes me giggle :)08:43
Logiyeah.. well.. some times there just isn't a good way out08:44
kUbelexcatly I don't know what would sound better08:44
kUbelhello mr_owen 08:44
Logiand I'm not really to thank or blame for anything recent (although I think I did the loka setu one ages ago), Rikki is the main man now08:44
mr_oweni want to make a dualboot with kubuntu and windows xp on my laptop08:44
mr_owenhow should i do this ? 08:45
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kUbelLogi:  I am just saying that it's funny - but it's maybe because I am not used to Icelandic on computers. Maybe english computer words sounds strange to normal english users as well?08:45
LogikUbel: btw, I'd like to buy a wireless ethernet card which is supported by linux/amd64, preferably something I could just go out and buy right away. Live close to Tolvulistinn :) Ideas?08:45
`NomadHi.. Does anyone know why I get this error lately at the end of the apt-get process?08:46
`Nomadsh: dzhandle: command not found08:46
`NomadE: Problem executing scripts DPkg::Post-Invoke 'dzhandle restart-pending-instances'08:46
`NomadE: Sub-process returned an error code08:46
LogikUbel: I think they do..08:46
kUbelLogi: I am not sure - pcmcia?  Everything I have tried has always worked but I haven't tried any of those USB things08:46
`Nomadmr_owen, did you partition your disk in 2 parts already?08:47
mr_owenbut 08:47
mr_oweni dont know what the partitions should be08:48
mr_oweni made a boot partition08:48
`Nomadinstall windows first on the one partition08:48
`Nomadthen when you install Kubuntu on the second empty section, it will take care of the rest08:48
mr_owenso i have 40 GB 08:49
kUbellogi: you have a pcmcia slot? or?08:49
mr_oweni make a windows partition of 30 GB fat 3208:49
LogikUbel: yes... pcmcia08:49
mr_owenand leave the rest unpartitioned08:49
mr_owenand then install windows08:50
mr_owenthan install kubuntu 08:50
`NomadMr_owen: Sounds good, if you need that much for windows, sure.. 08:50
LogikUbel: I've got a built-in one, but I have to run the windows drivers and that just leads to pain and no 64-bitness08:50
mr_owenon the rest of the space with a swap partition of 512 mb ? 08:50
`Nomadhow much RAM have you got?08:50
kUbelLogi: you have the intel thingy?08:50
mr_owenand the partition for ubuntu 08:50
mr_owenshould it be primary ? 08:50
mr_owenand the bootable flag must be left on the windows partition or ? 08:51
`NomadI don't knwo that it makes a difference08:51
mr_oweni have 256 ram08:51
`Nomad256 megs of RAM for win XP?  08:51
mr_owenworks fine 08:51
`Nomadok 08:51
mr_owenamd xp 2000 08:51
mr_owenbut i will upgrade it soon08:52
`NomadI'm sure it's fine08:52
mr_owento 512 or maybe 76608:52
mr_oweni had windows on it 08:52
kUbelLogi: the microstar one should work http://www.tolvulistinn.is/content.asp?view=detail&code=0f0836990c6d5683c9b38cd6488a7c272583e79f4d9503364a2f6f133613f646&level=2&top=netbAna0ur&s=Er%A10laus08:52
mr_owenand 30 Gb free08:52
`NomadRam is cheap, it's Rum that's expensive :)08:52
mr_owenand then i installed umbutu 08:52
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mr_owenbut it doesn't offer me to boot windows anymore08:52
mr_owenbut the windows partition was still there08:52
kUbelbut I am not sure - new hardware is always risky :)08:52
`Nomadso you go straight to linux?08:53
LogikUbel: ah.. they've closed almost an hour ago. Oh, well. Monday08:53
mr_owenit starts grub08:53
mr_owenand then it goes straight to linux08:53
`Nomadowen: Try running grub again, to see if it picks up windows08:53
`Nomadwait a sec, brb08:53
LogikUbel: I'm going to bring the laptop and the kubuntu live cd and buy the first card that it detects properly08:53
LogikUbel: thanks08:53
kUbelhehe yeah I guess that's safe08:54
kUbelLogi: do you use Linux in your work?08:54
LogikUbel: usually, yes08:54
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LogikUbel: atm I've got a windows laptop from work, but with cygwin, firefox, thunderbird and a couple of other bits it's almost usable :)08:55
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kUbelLogi: I used to have Windows on this laptop but I always had this problem that it took more cpu than it should, got slow - was very anoying when I only used my computer for openoffice and browsing (studying in university)08:56
kUbelso I went back to Linux08:56
Logiyeah. My own laptop has only booted windows once, when I verified that it was functioning, and then it got debian on it08:57
Logibut I think I'm going to go to kubuntu/amd64, the debian/amd64 situation is a mess08:57
`NomadMr_owen:  There are many good grub tutorials out there in google land.. http://www.openbg.net/sto/os/xml/grub.html#menu08:58
kUbelahh wouldn't know anything about that :)08:58
`NomadTry and see if you can just add the windows partition in your grub.conf file08:58
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`NomadI have to go an denjoy a bit of this sunshine before it disappears for the winter08:58
Logi`Nomad: for kUbel and me it's already too late...08:59
kUbelhehehe yeah08:59
`NomadGood luck mr_owen, it.s fixeable, nothign is lost08:59
Logihmm... didn't lspci give more readable information before?08:59
Logiand there used to be a file in /proc with a list of the pci devices. Where have they put this stuff now?09:00
ksmurfLogi.... Mine never even did that... and i'm paying for it though09:00
Logiyeah, good-old MS-tax09:01
Logialso the debian kde situation is a mess...09:02
Logithey don't really seem to be on the ball any more :-/09:02
kUbelI have never followed Debian that much - always like the distro09:04
kUbelbut I never tried getting into it09:05
kUbelI have used few distros based on debian though09:05
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Deanieok guys, i need a GOOD nzb news client09:22
Deaniesomething as good as newsleecher, i cant find one, they all pretty much suck in linux land.09:22
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naliothDeanie: in a terminal, type "apt-cache search nzb"09:22
Deanietried., nothing./09:22
Deaniei tried about 3 of the ones nzb capable so far, they are utter garbage09:23
naliothDeanie: search at sourceforge.net or unix.freshmeat.net09:23
Deaniei realise they are free and wont be as good as a commercial app like newsleecher, but i aint usin these ..09:23
Deaniewell, i`d try klibido if i could get apt-build to install09:24
gdhDeanie: 'nzbget' or 'nzbperl' search on google09:24
Deanieits being a total bitch09:24
gdhboth are adequate - both commandline09:24
Deanietried those, not good enuff.09:24
gdhthere is nothing GUI clicky-clicky09:24
gdhThey both work perfectly well for me, etc. :)09:24
Deanieafter using newsleecher for too long on windows, i want something nearly as good, there isnt one09:24
gdhSo run Windows, or deal with it. :)09:25
claydohklibido is in repos09:25
Deaniei think klibido seems decent, if i could only install it.09:25
Deaniei dont wanna live with cli all my life, ;)09:25
Deaniewhich repo?09:25
Deanie ive searched but not added an repos either.09:25
claydohbut not sure if it is hoary, iam installing it in breezy via synaptic right now09:26
Deanieim gettin silly errors while compiling it also,  Qt errors , i like installed Qt libs and its still givin me shit09:26
naliothwhats a nzb, anyway?09:26
Deanienewzbin 09:26
naliothDeanie: you need the -dev qtlibs09:26
gdhnalioth: A faster way of downloading warez.09:26
gdhfrom usenet09:26
claydohjust an easy way to download binaries09:26
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naliothDeanie: install your libqt -dev  libraries09:27
claydohuse Pan and download the binaires the "old fashined" way :)09:27
Deanieinstead of dloadin 50,000 headers everyday, u dload a small file, like a torrent i guess.09:27
gdhnalioth: nzb is a big list of the exact usenet article numbers - it eliminates the tedium of downloading millions of group headers and selecting the relevant files, etc.09:27
Deaniepan sucks 09:27
gdhPrecisely - it removes the tedium of Pan :)09:27
claydohnever found it tedious09:28
Deanieim sorry if im a little fussy now, but i want something with some class09:28
naliothmy newserver doesnt have nzb (that i see)09:28
naliothDeanie: do the -dev libs09:28
gdhPan is great if you actually want to participate in a newsgroup discussion...09:28
gdhDeanie: tried to run 'snagit' under wine? 09:29
Deanielibqt3-dev is already newest version09:29
naliothDeanie: there are others you've missed09:29
gdhDeanie: sorry, my mistake http://www.shemes.com/index.php?p=download09:30
Deaniei want functionality like newsleecher, auto parsing nzb files, ability to move the queue around, pause certain ones etc.09:30
Deaniegrabit u mean.09:30
Deaniedont really wanna use wine09:30
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Deaniedefeats the object09:30
claydohwell not too many linux programmers are hunting for warez most likely, befeats the object of *nix <g>09:31
Deaniei prolly need to have my newsleecher on another pc cuz movie collector runs like im swimming thru a river of shit, in wine09:31
claydohklibido is in the breezy repos, not hoary09:31
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Deaniei cant install the damn thing, klibido or apt-build.09:32
Deaniei could install klibido if i could install apt-build.09:32
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Deanieapt-build says, use apt-get install apt-build to install, but its not anywhere.09:32
Deaniei used to love apt till now.09:33
gdhPleasant. klibido installs + runs perfectly in breezy :)09:33
naliothDeanie: you have all your sources?09:33
Deaniedont wanna reinstall an os09:33
gdhwho said reinstall?09:34
Deanieive tried to install libs and stuff it wants09:34
gdh*upgrade* :) that's half the point of debian derived distros09:34
gdhyou don't need to reinstall every time a new release comes out09:34
Deanieyeah, we all know how flawless upgrading is.   (sarky)09:34
claydoh"sudo apt-get install apt-build" ?09:34
Deanieapt-build does not exist for me.09:34
gdhDeanie: <shrugs> Works for me =)09:34
Deaniei guess i need more repos?09:34
Deanieim only working with the default ones at the mo.09:35
gdhDeanie: you'll want universe at least09:35
Deanieassumed apt-build would tell me at least09:35
Deanieok, how do i add that...09:35
gdhDeanie: and probably multiverse for flash player / othe rnon-free shit09:35
Deaniei know how09:35
Deaniei mean, what do i add09:35
gdhDeanie: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list09:35
gdhjust uncomment the 'universe' line09:35
gdhctrl-x to save. then sudo apt-get update09:36
gdhnow apt-cache will have all of universe to search09:36
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Deaniehave no multiverse09:36
gdhduplicate the 'universe' line09:36
gdh(ctrl k then ctrl u twice)09:37
naliothubotu: tell Deanie about sources09:37
gdhchance uni to multi on the second line09:37
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naliothgdh: ??what?09:37
douglasI'm trying to start tightvncserver and it says it can't find the default font 'fixed', which package should I install to correct this?09:37
gdhnalioth: mm?09:37
douglasAlso, is there a way to channel any requests for alsa usage through arts?09:37
gdhdouglas: xfonts-base ?09:38
Deanieadd multi to the -src line?09:38
naliothgdh: have you seen the sources list ?09:38
gdhnalioth: I vaguely remember the one from hoary default, yes.09:38
gdhthere'sa 'universe' repo line in there commented out09:38
naliothubotu: tell gdh about sources09:38
naliothgdh: this is not hoarys old sources list09:38
gdhOh right, 'the synaptic way'. funny, I thought this was #kubuntu09:39
naliothDeanie: just see that everywhere it says "universe" there's a space and "multiverse" 09:39
Deanieupdating universe now09:40
douglasxfonts-base already installed.09:40
Deaniefinally, 09:41
Deanieklibido, a usenet grabber09:41
Deaniedont like havin to install deps tho09:42
Deaniei thought, apt was able to handle them09:42
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Deanieoh i give up09:48
Deaniegives me deps, and i try install em and it still tells me the same deps.09:48
Deanieumet 09:48
naliothDeanie: build the deps09:49
naliothDeanie: have apt build the deps09:49
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Deanieive tried apt-get install "all the deps" and its still givin me shit09:52
Deaniehave apt build em?09:52
Deanienow says, broken packages09:53
Deanieafter gettin apache2+ssl working i thought i hit the hardest problem.09:53
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naliothDeanie: yes, have apt build the "not installable" pkgs from source09:56
naliothDeanie: are u using amd64 or ppc (k)ubuntu?09:56
Deaniei686 kubuntu09:57
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Deanieok im used to havin apt just install my stuff and handle deps, how do i get it to build from source.09:58
Flokerinstall a pack. called build-essentials09:58
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Flokerthen cd to the sourcecode directory and type09:59
Floker ./configure09:59
Floker make09:59
Floker make install09:59
Flokerthats it09:59
Deaniei do that...09:59
Deaniei get deps.09:59
Deaniei install the deps it wants, it still cries about em09:59
Flokerthat go ask someone who isnt new to linux like me =) sry10:00
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XHKI dont have sounds in kde, how can i fix that?10:03
Deaniehello to you as well10:03
Deaniecontrol centre.10:04
Deaniesystem notification10:04
Deanieapply to all?10:05
Deanieturn on all10:05
Deanieif u really want em all on10:05
Deaniei give up now10:05
Deanieqt-mt is installed damn you10:06
Deaniesuse 9.3 here i come10:06
XHKis suse better than ubuntu?10:07
Deaniei like kubuntu really i do.....10:07
Deaniebut, tnite, after getting apache2 and ssl working (what a struggle) to have it piss me off with installin libs with apt...nah.10:07
Deanieleast i know if i install a lib / dev in suse , its there.........10:08
gdhDeanie: Bye, then :)10:08
Deaniewell, i dont know what else to do..10:08
gdhI'm too intoxicated to care :)10:08
Deaniekubuntu/apt will not let me carry on10:08
DeanieQt libs are installed10:08
gdhdoes apt-get -f install 10:09
gdhsay anything useful?10:09
DeanieAPT <<<<<<<<<< stfu10:09
gdhthat's often a magic 'just fix it kthx' command10:09
Deaniesame thing10:09
Deaniethe 3 things it tellin me are missin, are installed10:09
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gdhI haven't been following the thread...10:10
gdhmybrain is broken anyway :)10:10
XHKI dont have sounds in kde, how can i fix that?10:10
Deanieoh well... nevermind.10:10
MikeStylehey, im trying to install gimp version 3.4 but it says i need glib 2.8 when i compile and it says i only have 2.610:10
Deaniemines had beer.10:10
Deanieusually works better after 110:10
Deaniebut ive had 610:11
XHKwhich audio device kde uses?10:11
XHKalsa or smth?10:11
MikeStylearts and xine and alsa i think10:11
Deaniewell, if i had a choice.10:11
Deaniepretty sure its alsa10:12
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Deaniehas been in the last 4 yrs 10:12
Deaniefor me10:12
XHKIn options there isnt arts and xine, only alsa and some other. I choosed alsa but i still dont have sounds 10:13
MikeStyleXHK, giv me specs on ur system, sound card, distro10:13
Deaniedo u get sounds at all?10:14
Deaniein OS10:14
XHKMikeStyle: soundcard is nForce something10:14
XHKDeanie: no i dont10:14
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Deanieyou need your s/card sorting then 10:14
Deanieno experience of it , sorry, been spoilt by the likes of suse and Kubuntu10:15
MikeStyleXHK, go System, settings, sound and multimedia and fix sum settings there10:15
gdhXHK: can you post the output of 'cat /proc/asound/cards' ?10:15
MikeStylecan anyone help with my problem?10:16
gdhMikeStyle: Upgrade to breezy? It's unlikely 2.8 is present in hoary, hence you cannot compile the newest gimp from source.10:16
XHKgdh: 0 [nForce2        ] : NFORCE - NVidia nForce210:16
XHK                     NVidia nForce2 with CMI9739 at 0xee002000, irq 2110:16
MikeStyleim ubuntu 5.04 with kde 3.410:17
gdhbreezy is the new version of (k)ubuntu, due to be released on Oct 10th10:17
MikeStylewhere would i find the upgrade to breezy10:17
gdhit's perfectly stable now since the final release is only in a week...10:17
XHKMikeStyle, which settings do i have to fix there?10:17
MikeStylelook around XKH, never had this problem myself :)10:17
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Deaniemaybe ill dload breezy and fix my woes10:18
MikeStylegdh, is it possible to upgrade hoary into breezy?10:18
gdhXHK: can you run 'alsamixer' from the command line ? and check that all the relevant things are set to a good volukme and not muted?10:18
MikeStylewithout formatting10:18
gdhMikeStyle: Absolutely! :)10:18
MikeStylehow would i go abouts doing so gdh?10:18
gdhMikeStyle: that's the whole ppoint of debian-derived distros :)10:18
gdhMikeStyle: I'm trying to find the recommended procedure.. but it's fairly painless.10:18
MikeStylei can do basic bashing, but nothin too complicated plz10:19
XHKgdh: is this bad:  Item: Master [Off]   ?10:19
XHKgdh: and how can i turn volume on10:20
gdhXHK: I'd say so... try pressing M to toggle mute?10:20
MikeStyleXHK, there should be a volume monitor on your taskbar, click on it and click mixer and make sure master is not muted/down10:20
XHKMikeStyle: there isnt volume monitor on my taskbar... =/10:20
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MikeStylesounds like ur system is a little messed up10:21
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XHKgdh, how can i slide master volume up?10:21
gdhXHK: cursor keys10:21
gdhpress ? for more help in alsamixer10:22
XHKill mes with it a bit10:22
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gdhalsa has a really useful default of muting everything... 10:22
gdhwhoever thought of that needs a serious slap.10:23
MikeStylegdh, im downloading the .iso file for 5.10 (breezy) from there what do i do?10:23
gdh'but but but they might have their stereo turned up to max and it might blow their speakers' .. ffs...10:23
Deaniethinks everyone who wants linux wants it for cli/server mode10:23
gdhMikeStyle: Nono the new ISO is no use unless you want to do a fresh reinstall.10:23
MikeStylethen gdh, wut do i do to upgrade?10:24
Deaniego on do a fresh...10:24
Deaniedo it properly.10:24
gdhMikeStyle: I don't know from memory, I'm not an oracle or a developer :)10:24
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MikeStyleu think its somewhere in synaptic10:24
Deanieunless youve spent 120 hours install shit10:24
gdhit's something like just change 'hoary' to 'breezy' in your sources.list, apt-get update and 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' then apt-get dist-upgrade...10:24
Deanieah, like kubuntu-desktop...install fresh10:25
Deaniewas just as quick.10:25
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Deanieupgrading always breaks something10:25
MikeStyleahh but whenever i try to edit sources.list it says i dont have the rights to do so10:25
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gdhyes, browse in konq to /etc/apt and right click on sources.list then Actions -> edit as root10:26
gdhtype in your login password10:26
Deaniesudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list10:29
Deaniewe love pico10:29
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gdhthe Free version of UW's non-free shit =)10:31
zynso it's free shit then?10:32
gdhIt most certainly is :) shit in the finest sense  :)10:32
vitriolwhy do people go out of the way to use the command line...10:33
vitriolno offense10:33
gdhvitriol: old habits die hard?10:33
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zynhe does have a good point10:34
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vitriolno such thing10:34
Deanierather have a script 10:34
vitriolmc + screen + links + gpm10:34
Deanieor a gui10:34
vitriolall you ever need10:34
Deanieactually, rather have a  working Os.10:35
Deaniewhich i dont. thanks APT10:35
vitriolDeanie: whats wrong10:35
Deaniei have Qt3 , no you dont, yes i do, no you dont, yes i do10:35
gdhDeanie: It sounds like you tried to compile stuff from source, stuffed it up, and confused apt. hardly it's fault.10:35
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Deanieall from apt10:36
Deanietried source as last resort.10:36
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Deaniesays, wants qt310:36
Deaniei install qt3 .10:36
Deanieboth apt and source say, need qt310:37
Deanieit can fuck off 10:37
vitriolyou can't use --force ?10:37
XHKI unmuted and turned up everything i could in alsamixer but still not working...10:37
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vitriolXHK: tried 'alsaconf' ?10:37
Deanietried --with-qt10:37
Deanieand path10:37
Deanietried the lot10:37
Deaniei now conceed defeat10:38
Deanieand move on10:38
XHKvitriol, not yet10:38
XHKbash: alsaconf: command not found10:38
vitriolXHK: do you have alsa-utils installed10:38
XHKim not sure10:38
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Deanieim gunna try the windows of the linux world.10:38
XHKalsa-utils is already the newest version.10:39
Deaniehey, it works!10:39
vitriolDeanie: good luck to you10:39
XHKvitriol, any mroe ideas?10:39
vitriolXHK: i'm mistaken...i don't see alsaconf either10:39
vitriolXHK: it was a standard part of debian10:40
Deanieheres a question for you all....What do you think linux needs for more people to migrate?10:40
XHKyea =/10:40
vitriolXHK: and also, 'apt-cache search alsaconf' returns no results10:40
Deanieapart from easy install of software of couce.10:40
vitriolXHK: does it not work in any app?10:41
Deaniei keep trying it , for the past 4 years, every  year its got better.  now i want ATI to devote more than 30mins to decent drivers.10:41
vitriolXHK: it may be different sound servers conflicting10:41
vitriollike arts, esd10:41
vitriolDeanie: amen10:41
XHKIn xmms song is play9ing, but no sound, in gaim no sound and in kde no sound either10:41
zynanyone know how to get rid of these packages marked with "residual config" ?10:42
XHKsome days ago it almost worked10:42
vitriolXHK: if you do 'ps x | grep arts' do you get anything?10:42
XHK 8185 ?        S      0:01 artsd -F 11 -S 4096 -a alsa -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f10:42
XHK 8684 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep arts10:42
XHKwhat does it mean?10:44
vitriolwish there was an alsaconf package10:44
vitriolXHK: that means that arts is running10:44
vitriolso it should be ok10:44
vitriolXHK: do you have multiple sound cards?10:44
vitriolXHK: or maybe an onboard sound card and a pci sound card10:44
XHKCan i check it somewhere?10:45
vitriolXHK: try 'alsamixer -c 1'10:45
XHKi know  i have nForce something, but sometimes it displays two choiches10:45
vitriolXHK: if it gives you an error message, you only have one10:45
vitriolXHK: the '-c' stands for card10:46
XHKalsamixer -c 110:46
vitrioland the number is the card number10:46
XHKalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for hw:1: No such file or directory10:46
vitriol0 would be the first sound card10:46
vitriol1 would be second10:46
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vitriolok, so it looks like thats not your problem10:46
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vitriolXHK: are your speakers plugged in?10:46
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francescohello, is Kubuntu 5.10 breezy coming on oct, 13th?10:47
vitriolXHK: probably a simple fix but i'm fresh out of ideas :(10:47
XHKI had sound problems in gnome too, but fixed it somehow 10:47
Deaniei`ll dload when final10:47
XHKin gnome i messed something with esd10:48
Deanietill then, suse and yast will do10:48
Deaniejust fkin works..i hate apt.10:48
XHKand few days ago sounds were almost ok. Sometimes kde sounds worked but others did not, sometimes xmms worked and others didnt and sometimes gaim worked :P10:49
XHKBut now nothing works10:49
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Deaniewhats the ubuntu sound config tool?10:52
Deaniei cant remember10:52
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douglasany one here using wlassistant with breezy? I have an older version working, but something is broken for encrypted netowrks, so I want the newer version and the deb won't install, saying kdelibs4 is not installed, but it is!10:57
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MachineScrewOk I want my Konquer fm back11:00
MachineScrewthey remove spacial in Ubuntu and add it in Kubuntu11:01
douglasHow do I force dependencies.11:02
XHKwhats xine? 11:02
MachineScrewxine is a media player like mplayer11:03
MachineScrewit can be used just with the lib in concert with Kaffien11:03
XHKDamn why my sounds wont work :S11:04
MachineScrewalso as a back end to amorak11:04
MachineScrew? where in genral11:04
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epilocwhat is a good wmv player?11:04
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MachineScrewxine w/ w32codec11:05
douglasIf I want to force a package to install dpkg -i something.deb how do I force it?11:05
MachineScrewyou need the rpm for the w32codec11:05
MachineScrewdouglas: man dpkg11:05
MachineScrewdouglas: the should tell you11:06
MachineScrewepiloc: xine is good some prefer mplayer11:06
MachineScrewepiloc: the choice is yours but I preferr xine11:07
epiloccan i apt-get install the win32 codec?11:07
MachineScrewepiloc: i will get you the web site on sec11:07
epilocok, i will google11:07
MachineScrewepiloc: http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/11:09
MachineScrewepiloc: get the rpms there and there you can also get libdvdcss11:09
MachineScrewepiloc: once downloaded you can alien -d <packagename.rpm>11:10
MachineScrewepiloc: with out the <>11:10
epilocI have had weird results with alien before11:10
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epilocbut ill give it a shot,thx11:10
MachineScrewepiloc: I did it fine on my system11:10
MachineScrewepiloc: the nice thing is both of these don't have dependencies11:11
MachineScrewepiloc: you can also add horay-backports-staging to your source list11:12
MachineScrewepiloc: and horay-extras-staging11:12
MachineScrewthey work with breezy11:13
MachineScrewepiloc: there is also gstreamer-plugins-multiverse it will grab the plugins you need for the gstreamer backend11:14
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XHKmy kde sounds work right now, aftergoing to gnome and turning pci volume up, cause i couldnt do it in alsamixer, dunn why11:16
epilocMachineScrew: can you alien -d just about any rpm without screwing anything up?11:17
XHKgdh, my kde sounds work right now, aftergoing to gnome and turning pci volume up, cause i couldnt do it in alsamixer, dunno why11:18
gdhmost odd :)11:18
XHKyou have any ideas why  pci sound mutes?11:18
gdhI do not.11:18
XHKand why i cant change it in alsamixer, cause when i do it it just feezes11:18
gdhalsa is still a very new concept to me - I stil use an SB AWE64 ISA :)11:19
XHKkde sounds work, gaim souns work, but xmms gives error11:19
gdhxmms -> config -> plugins -> output11:20
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gdhselect the 'alsa' output plugin?11:20
gdhif it' snot there, use beep-media-player instead - it's a GTK2 port of xmms.11:21
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XHKgdh, in xmms i have already chosen alsa11:21
gdhthen I have no idea :/11:22
XHKok now it works somehow :S11:22
XHKI dont even know what i did11:22
gdhha :)11:22
XHKnow gaim sounds wont work lol11:22
MachineScrewepiloc: yes11:23
Mr_oweni need help installing msn 11:23
XHKuse gaim11:23
MachineScrewepiloc: sory I was configing file asociations11:23
epilocMachineScrew: I downloaded the w32 codec, converted to deb and then dpkg -i <codec> is that all that is needed to install the codec?11:24
MachineScrewevery time I download a file insted of giving me the option to download it, it treats it as a document11:24
MachineScrewepiloc: yes thats it11:24
MachineScrewMr_owen: what do you meen install msn11:25
MachineScrewMr_owen: the software or just to IM11:25
MachineScrewMr_owen you there ?11:26
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MachineScrewMr_owen: MSN software you need to run windows or get a real service provider like your local cable company or telephone company for DSL11:29
Mr_oweninstalled gaim and that looks allright11:29
cddesjari am running a dell inspiron 1100 and i am interested in switching from debian to kubuntu, basically because the software tends to be newer11:29
Mr_owencan you maybe help me installing a wifi card11:29
cddesjarbut i can't seem to get my orinoco pc gold card to work with kubuntu11:29
MachineScrewMr_owen: ya11:29
MachineScrewMr_owen: what kind of card is it11:30
cddesjarand my screen is small, i.e. it doesn't fill up my entire laptop screen11:30
MachineScrewMr_owen: modle ?11:30
Tm_TMr_owen: Kopete!11:31
Tm_Tdon't use gaim :/11:31
Mr_owenkopete doesn't work11:31
Tm_Tit does11:31
Mr_owenit doesn't connect11:31
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Tm_Tjust stop using KDE 3.4.011:31
MachineScrewcddesjar: open a Konsole and type dpkg-reconfigure 'xserver-xorg'11:31
Mr_owennvrmind, gaim is allright for now11:32
Mr_oweni just want my lan card working 11:32
MachineScrewMr_owen: One sec and I will find it11:32
Tm_TMr_owen: update KDE :)11:32
zyncddesjar: what kind of video hardware?11:32
Mr_owenthanks machinescrew11:32
Mr_owenhow can you update KDE ? (im new to linux so sorry for the stupid questions)11:33
cddesjari think i found a good site on the internet to help me fixing that screen issue11:33
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cddesjarbut i am confused about the orinoco card11:33
cddesjarb/c it works flawlessly with debian11:33
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MachineScrewMr_owen: you need somthing called ndiswrapper11:34
MachineScrewone sec11:34
Mr_owenyeah i know11:34
Mr_oweni read about that11:34
Mr_owenbut i don't know how it works 11:34
cddesjaris anyone running kde 3.5 beta?11:34
cddesjarare you running in to many issues?11:35
MachineScrewMr_owen: http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R81433.EXE11:35
MachineScrewMr_owen: download that file and open a console11:35
MachineScrewMr_owen: click on the K and then system and you should see terminal click on that11:35
`NomadMr_Owen:  Did you get your dual-boot straightened out?11:36
Mr_owenthanks !11:36
Mr_owenit worked the second time 11:36
`Nomadgreat :)11:36
Mr_owenmany thanks !11:36
`Nomadit's always good to be patient11:36
Mr_owenyeah i have console open11:37
Tm_Tcddesjar: using it, damn good11:37
MachineScrewMr_owen: is your card a pcmcia PCI or built in the laptop11:37
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MachineScrewMr_owen: on the card it self what dose it say excatly11:38
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Mr_owenyou mean type number ? 11:38
Mr_owenmodel no: f5d701011:39
MachineScrewMr_owen: I am trying to get the right one and there are sevral drivers for that model11:39
Mr_owenon the belkin site ? 11:39
MachineScrewMr_owen: what ref11:39
MachineScrewMr_owen: what rev11:39
MachineScrewMr_owen: no we need the chip set11:39
Mr_owenthere are 3 11:39
Mr_oweni think it was the first11:39
Mr_owenin windows it said broadcom11:39
MachineScrewin that case 11:40
MachineScrewthat is the driver you need11:40
MachineScrewit is a Wireless G right11:40
MachineScrewMr_owen: ok11:41
MachineScrewMr_owen: get that driver11:41
MachineScrewnow save it to your home11:41
Mr_owenok done11:42
MachineScrewMr_owen: once that is done do sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils11:42
MachineScrewMr_owen: let me know when that is done11:42
MachineScrewok now we need to unzip the files in WL54driver2.2.6.0.zip11:43
MachineScrewunzip WL54driver2.2.6.0.zip11:43
funkyHathas anyone else had problems with amaroK crashing under breezy?11:44
MachineScrewI think that is the command11:44
Tm_Tnot yet11:44
Mr_owencannot unzip11:44
MachineScrewfunkyHat: change the engine11:44
gdhfunkyHat: all of that crap amarok / juk / kafeine crashes and burns for me.. 11:44
Tm_TfunkyHat: but I use from svn ;)11:44
Mr_owenbut maybe i can do that in graphical env11:44
gdhI don't go near any of it...11:44
Mr_owenits now in the map with the same name11:44
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MachineScrewMr_owen: ok now what is the file named .inf 11:45
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Mr_owenrt2500.inf 11:45
Mr_owenin the win xp map that is 11:45
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Mr_owenis the same in every map11:46
MachineScrewok so now we need to do sudo ndiswrapper -i /path to the .inf/rt2500.inf11:46
MachineScrewwe need the xp one 11:46
Mr_owenthats in the unzipped map in the map WinXp11:47
MachineScrewMr_owen: ok run that last command11:47
Mr_owenwith -i/winxp ?11:48
Mr_oweni mean /winxp/rt2500.inf ? 11:48
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MachineScrewmind you the dirs are case sensitve11:48
Mr_owenrt2500 is allready installed11:49
Mr_owenuse -e to remove it 11:50
Mr_owenit says 11:50
MachineScrewok ya11:50
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MachineScrewdid you try this before11:50
Mr_owendon't think so 11:50
Mr_owennot when i installed it again 11:50
Mr_owenand i formatted before so 11:51
MachineScrewnow run the previous command 11:51
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Mr_owenthe apt one ? 11:52
MachineScrewno the sudo ndiswrapper -i /WinXP/rt2500.inf11:52
MachineScrewno the sudo ndiswrapper -i WinXP/rt2500.inf11:52
Mr_owenit says the same again11:53
Mr_owenrt2500.inf is allready installed11:53
MachineScrewno the sudo ndiswrapper -e rt250011:53
MachineScrewMr_owen: sory11:53
MachineScrewMr_owen: then run the sudo ndisrapper -i WinXP/rt2500.inf11:54
Mr_owendriver /WinXP/rt2500.inf is not installed11:54
MachineScrewok one sec11:54
Mr_owenif i do list11:55
Mr_owenit says 11:55
Mr_oweninstalled: rt2500 invalid driver11:55
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MachineScrewdo ls /etc/ndiswrapper11:55
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Mr_owenmap rt250011:56
MachineScrewthat is it11:56
Mr_owenthat map is empty 11:57
MachineScrewdo sudo rmdir -R /etc/ndiswrapper11:57
Mr_owenone moment phone 11:57
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Mr_oweninvalid option -R 11:58
MachineScrewok remove the -R11:58
Mr_owendirectory not empty 11:59
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MachineScrewdo sudo rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty /etc/ndiswrapper11:59
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zepticonHi... Im new in ubuntu an was woundering if anyone could help me out a bit with some smal questions?12:00
Mr_oweni think12:00
Mr_oweni did it with --ignore 12:00
MachineScrewdo ls /etc/ndiswrapper12:01
Mr_owenno such file or dir12:01
MachineScrewMr_owen: ok good now do sudo ndisrapper -i WinXP/rt2500.inf12:01
MachineScrewzepticon: I can in a bit12:02
Mr_owenis allready installed12:02
MachineScrewzepticon: I am hellping some one12:02
Mr_owenvery strange12:03

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