QMarioWhen I modprobe ndiswrapper, I get this error: 12:03
QMarioFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted12:03
hugelmopfQMario: "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"?12:03
QMarioSame error.12:03
QMarioWhat is wrong with the modprobe?12:05
QMarioShould I install Breezy?12:05
djk_Mardle: mesa respons?12:05
hugelmopfQMario: any info in "dmesg"?12:07
QMarioAnyone here?12:07
QMariondiswrapper (wrapper_init:1494): loadndiswrapper failed (11); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'12:07
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hugelmopfQMario: I don't have any experience with ndiswrapper, so I am lost there. sorry.12:08
ubotu[dvd]  "DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl   See also !libdvdcss2"12:09
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ubotulibdvdcss2 is, like, totally, to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"12:09
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ubotulibdvdcss2 is, like, to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"12:12
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QMarioIs Breezy out for KDE yet?12:20
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QMario<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">12:21
QMario<body>sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list</body>12:21
QMarioIs Breezy out for KUbuntu yet?12:21
sambagirlbut kubuntu is out for breezy12:22
sambagirlif i understand this stuff right.12:22
sambagirlbreezy is like hoary12:22
sambagirlkde is like gnome12:22
sambagirlthis kde and gnome sit on top of breezy and hoary12:22
sambagirlsoft of like SCO ODT sits on top of unix12:22
robotgeeksambagirl: isn't sco dead yet?12:23
sambagirlmaybe for some people, infact Amiga might even be dead for some people yet it is still a real system and is constantly being redefined. Some people think Mac is dead now that they are flriting with Intel. 12:24
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QMarioWhat "kubuntu is out for breezy"?12:25
QMarioWhat does that mean?12:25
sambagirlit means that Kubuntu is like whip cream on top of something see?12:25
sambagirlthink of breezy being hot chocolate and kubuntu being whip cream on top of hot chocolate12:25
robotgeeksambagirl: i am on ppc :)12:26
djk_QMario: that kubuntu breezy has been released perhaps?12:26
sambagirlok well Amigaone is PPC, so in theory Ubuntu PPC version should work seamlessly on AMIGAONE, no?12:26
QMarioThe real version?12:26
QMarioHow do I get it?12:27
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade12:27
djk_QMario: no, they faked it..12:27
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/12:27
djk_QMario: by either dist-upgrading or by downloading the cd-images..12:27
sambagirlQmario this is all speculations on my part, i am making theories on this, ok? These are my best guess-ta-ments12:28
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djk_sambagirl: you had coffee?12:28
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sambagirlbelgiun something yes12:29
sambagirldjk was i accurate in my theories?12:30
sambagirlor totally bouncing off the floor?12:30
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neoncodeis their a way to re-build firefox to use the KDE Konqoueror instead of the GNOME file browser. it's realy anoying me. I hate that thing...12:32
djk_sambagirl: erh..close.. i did not get the whole chocolate thing but nevermind..12:32
sambagirlif you think of ubuntu as being hot chocolate, you can think of kubuntu or gnome as being the whip cream to sweeten the hot chocolate or to intensify the experience, see?12:34
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Deviant17meehh i downloaded the kubuntu cd online, but when i am instaling i get the error message that couldnt install Kernel 386, cuase it might be corrupted, how can i fix this?? without having to download the CD again, or how do i check the msd5??12:42
neoncodeHey, can kopete transfer files in AIM?12:42
ubotuKopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org12:43
neoncodeso can it?12:43
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khalifHello to all!12:58
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khalifHello to all! :)01:03
khalifI was wondering if someone could offer a little assistance?01:04
khalifI'm a noob to 'nix/KDE and I'm trying to install some icons...01:05
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bam_where is the location of the themes folder01:07
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bam_seems my theme mgr doesnt wanna install themes from kde-look.org01:07
ubotuQMario: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:08
QMarioHow do I use my Wireless USB Adapter?01:08
robotgeekubotu: tell QMario about wireless01:08
QMariosudo modprobe ndiswrapper gives an error.01:08
robotgeekoh okay, i have no clue about ndiswrapper01:09
QMarioWhat is modprobe?01:09
QMarioHow would I make modprobe work?01:09
robotgeekQMario: it inserts a kernel module into the kernel01:09
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cazeloof_salut les jeunes01:15
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jarohi everyone01:30
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jarodoes someone know where i can get new themes and stuff ? repositories would be nice01:34
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jarowhy do i not have a C compiler installed ?01:46
jarowhy can I not compile things ?01:47
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djk_jaro: you can download and install them..01:49
djk_via apt..01:49
jarostyles ?01:49
jaroI am looking for a new style01:49
jarobut that one is only available in source01:49
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jaroso i tried to compile it01:50
jaroand i got this error message01:50
jarothat i was missing a C Compiler01:50
jaroor do You know any repositories for KDE Styles ?01:50
gerstI`m using kubuntu and I have 2 sound cards how can I switch which one to use?01:50
djk_my answer was regarding the c compiler question..01:50
jarohm yea, but i dont know how to do it via apt01:51
ubotucompile is, like, totally, Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall. tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand.  Also, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConfigureMakeMakeInstall.  Ask me about <compiling>01:54
djk_jaro: did you read the message ubotu send you..01:54
jaroi know about compiliing01:55
jarothere was no other version01:55
jaroor package01:55
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jsubl2sudo apt-get install build-essential01:55
jsubl2jaro sudo apt-get install build-essential01:56
jaroah that one again ^^01:56
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jaroi will have to wait because kynaptic is still busy01:56
djk_jsubl2: do you know the syntax to change something ubotu knows01:57
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jarook installing Build-Essential now02:02
jbeverdoes anyone know whether it is safe to upgrade my kernel through adept?02:02
jaroit works :)02:05
wampusjbever, i did....noticed no problems so far02:05
jarothanks 02:05
jarocan You tell me, where I can see the logs for an installation ?02:05
wampusjaro, kubuntu installation?02:06
jbeverthanks wampus, I will give it a try02:06
djk_ubotu forget compile02:06
ubotui forgot compile, djk_02:06
jsubl2not sure maybe /var/log02:06
djk_ubotu compile is Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand.  Also, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConfigureMakeMakeInstall  Ask me about !compiling02:06
ubotuokay, djk_02:06
ubotuwell, compile is Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand.  Also, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConfigureMakeMakeInstall  Ask me about !compiling02:06
jarohm, no for anything i installed via apt or compile02:06
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wampusjaro, probably in whatever dir it installed to there will be a log02:07
jaroanother thing... I just compiled ActiveHeart (KdeStyle) , but I can02:08
jaro find it in the styles list yet..02:08
jarowhere is it ?02:08
wampusdid you make, make install?02:08
wampusdid you recieve an error?02:09
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wampusi dunno man, i guess try it again02:10
jarowait, maybe it has something to do with an configure option i didnt specifiy02:11
jaroTo Install:02:11
jaro./configure --prefix="`kde-config --prefix`"02:11
jaromake install02:11
jarowhat exactly is "'kde-config --prefic'" ?02:11
vblantonis LeeJunFan around?02:11
wampustry omitting all that and just do ./configure02:11
jaroi did02:12
jsubl2I generally use ./configure --prefix=/usr since kubuntu puts everything in /usr02:12
LeeJunFanvblanton: hey, wassup?02:12
vblantonLeeJunFan, remember my internet woes?02:12
vblantonLeeJunFan, I fixed 'em :)02:12
LeeJunFanyeah, what was it?02:12
vblantonLeeJunFan, MTU02:12
vblantonhad to lower it from 1500 to 140002:13
LeeJunFanhaha, what a guess. :)02:13
vblantonnow it works like a charm.02:13
wampusjaro, that should work. i would check on kde look (i assume thats where you got it) and see if anyone has reported a bug or if there is an upgrade.02:13
vblantonThanks for helping me out, looks like I'll be switching over to kubuntu now :)02:13
LeeJunFanvblanton: cool. You're welcome.02:13
jarowell, here it says, please restart kde after installation02:13
jarodo i have to reboot ?02:13
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jaroor just log off / on ?02:13
wampusjust log out02:13
wampuslet me know how it goes02:14
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jarostill no style02:16
wampusim gonna try myself, active heart on kde look, right?02:18
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Deviant17mcan anyone send me this file ----->"linux-image-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb"02:20
Deviant17mit's corrupted on my install package02:20
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jarore wampus02:24
wampusjaro, didnt work for me either. i dunno what the deal is02:24
jaroi had this one installed on hoary last time02:25
wampusits gotta be something stupid that were just overlooking, or the style for whatever reason doesnt work with breezy02:26
jarobut at least im not the only one02:26
wampusits a kwin style02:27
jaroand that means ?02:27
wampuson its page there is a link to the kwin client. install that and see what happens02:27
wampusadept may have it02:28
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jaroi take it it is already installed, as it appears green on apt02:29
wampusyeah i know...it appears you have to install a seperate client for this style. seems like a lot of trouble. 02:30
jarobut the style is lovely02:32
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wampusif that doesnt work i dont know what else to do. it would be nice IF SOMEONE ELSE COULD HELP OUT WITH THIS PROBLEM. it kinda sux when you have 130 people on a channel and only 1 is willing to help02:33
wampuscome on people02:34
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dalewhere can I go to get an updated apt sources-list,,, there are packages supposedly available that I can't find02:35
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alemandale did you add multiverse and universe?02:36
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sorush20is there a way that I can automatically compile from source?02:37
daleuniverse yes...  unaware of multiverse02:37
sorush20with out haveing to type configure 02:37
wampusuhhh no02:37
sorush20is there a way that the configure program could get all the dependencies?02:38
wampusnope...sorry. maybe one day.02:38
alemandale: same line that universe but multiverse instead02:38
sorush20Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! what do I do when I get this ?02:39
dalealeman:  thanks am trying now02:39
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alemandale let me know if that was it..., btw what are the packages that you are trying to get?02:40
wampussorush20, try using adept to make sure all your X apps are installed and upgraded. i think that should do it.02:40
BlueEaglewampus: Some people might be AFK and I do not get paid to help people. Loosing the attitude MIGHT help you.02:40
sorush20how do I use adept to make sure that x apps are instlled?02:40
BlueEaglesorush20: gentoo? :p02:41
wampusk menu -> system -> adept02:41
sorush20BlueEagle: no , Kubuntu02:41
dalealeman:  semms to have worked thnx...  was just trying to get mplayer to watch a movie :)02:42
alemanok, glad it worked...02:42
alemanstill look into the starter guides to have everything working...02:43
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BlueEaglesorush20: What are you attempting to compile btw?02:45
jaroi cant find the programs i installed02:45
BlueEaglejaro: which program did you install then?02:45
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sorush20k3b I'm having problems with erasing the DVDRW02:46
jaronow i installed ehm02:46
jarosome kind of style02:47
jaroor theme-manager02:47
jarobut i don't know where to open it02:47
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sophie_hello all02:48
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alemanhey sophie02:50
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sophie_I just did a fresh breezy install with kde 3.5 on new harddrive02:51
sophie_aleman: Maxtor hd reliabilty suck02:51
Deviant17mhey can anyone send me the linux-image-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb from the instalation cd please, i got it corrupted and i dont wanna download entire cd again02:52
BlueEagledeviant17m: You can remove the CD from your sources.list and download the package.02:52
sophie_Deviant17m: why not dowload it02:52
andreHi. I would like to know, how I van get kaffeine working. It doesn't work and everybody in forums out there can't find a solution. And this bugs are the same since hoary02:52
BlueEagledeviant17m: just comment out the CD and then aptitude install it02:53
alemansophie: ???02:53
sorush20guys any dapper art work02:54
sophie_aleman: what02:54
Deviant17mcause when i try and download the package, it doesnt download especific package, it start download again and when installing it says that some files form another instalation and install interrupts 02:54
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alemanandre I've been using kaffeine with no problems...02:55
alemando you have codecs and streamers and plugins installed?02:55
andreYes I have. I jhvae gstreamer-ffmpeg working02:57
Deviant17meehh comment? (O_o)02:57
Deviant17mcan anyone just send me the file please =) ill appreciate it02:58
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andrethe problem that is the same since hoary. using kaffeine-xine. If I iopen a file it works. When i click to open another file it crashes02:58
alemanandre: sorry no idea...02:59
jsubl2Deviant17m: wget http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-image-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb  03:00
andrealeman> Can you watch DVDs. Yes I have libdvdcss, wich I got from marillat03:00
Deviant17mi am in windows, dont got linux installed i am in a friends cd03:01
alemandon't have dvd player in my pc (quite old)03:01
andrealeman: ok tanks03:02
Deviant17moh great thank you jsubl2 =)03:02
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KnowerrorsAnyone know of a kubuntu channel for developers?03:05
BlueEagleknowerrors: I am guessing kubuntu-devel or kubuntu-dev03:07
Knowerrorsyeah, first one worked, good guess03:08
BlueEagleknowerrors: One of my strong points. :p03:12
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[Relic] I have tried everything I can think of to stop the HD from doing something every 5 seconds, but I am out of ideas, all the logging is off, sensors off, bluetooth still activates even though it was supposedly shut off, top doesn't give many hints of what it is, last files written doesn't show much, and I am out of ideas, I may just need to try a full new install, but I don't know if that would just keep producing the same pro03:40
[Relic] blem03:40
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[Relic] any ideas on something I could shut down that might be doing that that I may have missed?03:40
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fatejudgeris that text file display issue in KDE 3.5 a Kubuntu-only issue?03:44
joelhow hard is it to set up a dual boot machine?  I want 5.10 and dapper on the same box, is it possible to keep them completely seperate?03:46
joel1 HDD03:46
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bam_anyone configure thunderbird with guarddog firewall yet?03:49
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homo_buntuna ihr buten buntus :-)04:45
djk_na homo04:46
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thebananahas anyone been successful connecting to networks with the apollon that's in the repo?04:48
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freeloveim on ubuntu breezy.if i install kubuntu-desktop now, will i get kde 3.5?05:01
jsubl2no  see http://kubuntu.org05:01
jsubl2the repo is in the notice05:02
freelovebut in repos i can see version 3.5??!!!05:02
jsubl2i would still read the notice on kubuntu.org 05:02
freelovewhat notice? it simply says 3.5 packages are available?05:03
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jsubl2click read more05:05
RobNycanyone here can help me why i cant mount my reiser4 partition05:06
RobNycalso whos running superkaramba here05:06
freeloveRobNyc, what partition is it? is it for storage?05:09
RobNycfreelove, its my gentoo partitoin05:10
jsubl2default ubuntu kernel does not have reiser4 support 05:11
RobNycjsubl2, so what can i do05:11
RobNycim on 2.6.12-smp kernel btw05:12
jsubl2patch and build your own05:12
RobNycoh ok 05:13
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coronamy win mod key doesn't seem to work anymore! can someone help please...?05:46
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_texasi want to reinstall Kubuntu with the DVD i just created on my other computer, and this linux box wont boot the dvd when restarted, any suggestions?05:58
PokerFacePenguin_texas: does the dvd boot in the computer you created it on?06:02
_texasit loads the disc menu06:02
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_texasthis box dosent even load the menu when i put it in06:03
PokerFacePenguin_texas: havent booted a kubuntu dvd...but that sounds like a yes to me...how old is the other pc?06:03
_texasthis computer is maybe a year old06:03
_texasthe other i built 4 months ago06:04
PokerFacePenguin_texas: and you can make it boot a cd fine?  the pc that wont boot the dvd..06:04
_texaswell i installed this Kubuntu on a CD-R on this machine06:05
PokerFacePenguin_texas: I would burn the dvd on the newer pc at a very slow rate...slowest you can...06:05
_texasit seems to have burnt fine though, ill try it in the other computer real quick06:05
PokerFacePenguin_texas: if all drives are dvd bootable, and the dvd boots in the new pc, and dvd doesnt boot in the old...i would burn it slooooooow and try again, and also wonder about whether the old pc will boot _any_ dvd06:07
_texasthe old PC is not old , parts are maybe 1 year old06:07
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PokerFacePenguin_texas: and it has booted a dvd before?06:08
_texasnever tried it before06:08
_texasi dont see why it wouldent06:08
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_texasthe other computer booted LIVE06:10
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_texasi wonder if i kill this install and wipe the drive if it would work06:11
PokerFacePenguinhmm burn it slow first06:12
_texasok, and if that dosent work, how can i reformat the hard drive06:13
_texasuse the CD-R version?06:13
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PokerFacePenguinyou want to wipe it all?06:15
_texasjust installed it the other day so nothing important on here06:15
PokerFacePenguinyou can use parted to delete and recreate with a knoppix disc06:16
PokerFacePenguinwould be my preferred way06:16
_texaswhats parted?06:16
PokerFacePenguina command line disk partitioning tool06:16
_texasso reboot in Gnome and use Parted?06:17
PokerFacePenguinyou on multi partition computer?06:17
_texasjust Kubuntu on here06:17
PokerFacePenguinso each pc has one partition...one pc is K one is U06:18
_texasone is Windows XP and this one is Kubuntu06:18
sophie_does anyone know what is using gam_server in kubuntu because it is acting up06:19
PokerFacePenguin_texas: I believe that rm -R * will delete it all if you want to use the same filesystem type...let me man that command real quick06:19
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PokerFacePenguin_texas: if you just want to get rid of the whole filesystem i think u can cd / and issue a rm -fR * to wipe the complete filesystem....someone please correct me if i am wrong06:21
sproingiemuch faster to umount it and mkfs06:21
PokerFacePenguinsproingie: he seemed to be a little shy about parted tho :)06:22
_texasi dont know anything about linux, trying to learn06:22
sproingieit's no scarier than rm'ing the whole filesystem06:23
sproingieand a whole lot faster06:23
_texascan u give me a step by step to doing that please Sproingie?06:23
sproingiejust use qtparted.  google for "system rescue cd"06:23
sproingieit's all pointy clicky easy06:24
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_texashere http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/download.en.html which one do i need06:26
PokerFacePenguin_texas: do you own a knoppix cd?06:27
_texasis Kubuntu a good distro to start out with?06:28
PokerFacePenguin_texas: yes06:28
_texasso i should just make a Knoppix CD?06:29
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PokerFacePenguin_texas: yes...and use qtparted06:29
PokerFacePenguin_texas: it is on there06:29
_texasi have to install knoppix or no?06:30
PokerFacePenguin_texas: no, it is live06:30
_texasthanks for ur help guys, ill try ur suggestions06:30
PokerFacePenguin_texas: and "pointy clicky" :)06:30
_texassee u soon i hope06:30
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Flammiahey... anyone active in here??06:53
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dareboyhey how do i change the repositories to universe06:55
Flammiahere's where to go...06:55
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Flammiahmmm, can't find the link06:57
FlammiaI'll just explain it06:57
Hobbsee!tell dareboy about repos06:57
ubotuI don't know, Hobbsee06:58
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.06:58
Flammiaclick Adept -> Manage repositories06:58
Flammiathen activate basically all of them06:58
Flammiaand where it says "main restricted"06:58
Flammiachange it to "main restricted universe multiverse"06:58
Flammiaright click -> enable06:59
Flammiato activate06:59
dareboydo u change all of main restricted07:00
Flammiadoes anyone in here know of a way to stop the "K Menu" popup every time I roll over the button??07:01
Flammiadon't need to change them all...07:01
FlammiaI just did it for archive.ubuntu.com07:01
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dareboyhow do u Create a new shell script in the /usr/bin directory.07:04
Flammialol.. ask someone who actually knows how to use linux07:05
Flammiaall I can tell you is you'll have to be root, and probably have to do it through KATE or maybe Konsole07:05
Kamping_Kaiserdareboy: use /usr/local/bin07:06
Kamping_Kaiserdareboy: and do the script, then copy it in07:06
dareboyhow do i get there07:06
Kamping_Kaiserdareboy: have you made your script?07:06
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Kamping_Kaiserdareboy: have you written your script yet?07:07
Kamping_Kaiserhi robitaille07:07
dareboywtas that07:07
robitailleHello Kamping_Kaiser 07:07
Kamping_Kaiser*shrug* at db07:08
FlammiaKaiser... do you mind doing a short tutorial??07:09
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Flammiaguess that was a negative07:12
Flammiaif anyone wanders in, and feels like solving a problem, I installed flashplayer-mozilla from adept, but it doesn't register any keyboard input in flash applets07:13
FlammiaI also tried installing firefox (also via adept), and it has the same problem... won't recognize any keystrokes when flash is in focus07:14
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_texasokay so i got into qtparted07:17
_texasbut apperntly id did not format my drive07:18
Flammiaso do it again... ??07:19
pussfellerso whats the command to install the new kde after you add the sources, apt-get install kde?07:28
pussfellerya know,the blurd doesnt tell you that part07:28
Flammiawhy not use adept, and it installs itself07:29
pussfeller4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 is the version all these are comming up as, with install kde07:30
pussfelleryeah, but wahts the package name07:30
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pussfelleris it kubuntu-desktop, or kde, or what07:30
pussfelleris it kde35?07:30
pussfellerah, i forgot to update07:33
pussfellersilly me07:33
pussfellerbad pussfeller07:33
FlammiaI don't know... sorry07:35
FlammiaI'm very new :(07:35
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pussfellerits ok, i should know better07:41
pussfellerthats why i am bad bad bad07:41
Flammialol... that's one way to put it07:41
Flammiathink you can help me out with something??07:41
FlammiaI know the basic formatting of a script, and such... I jsut want to know how I should create/save it07:42
pussfelleryou mean in a text editor?07:42
whiskershow do i get my webcam to work , i have a logitech zoom07:44
FlammiaI tried one, and saved it as "test.sh", but I couldn't run it from a terminal07:45
pussfellersh test.sh07:45
Flammiaerxplain, please07:45
pussfellerif its a bash script, you type sh script.sh07:46
pussfelleror chmod it +x and then ./script.sh, given that it has the path at the top07:46
Flammiayeah... I did ./script.sh07:47
Flammiahow would the chmod +x be done??07:47
pussfeller#!/bin/sh should be the very first line07:48
pussfellerchmod +x script.sh07:48
pussfelleror right click on it in konqy and change it that way07:49
Flammiayes... that is my first line07:49
pussfellerbut "sh test.sh" should work07:50
Flammiaah... so it basically sets a file parameter that makes the system recognize it as a shell script, without typing "sh" on the command line07:50
pussfellerno, thats what the #!/bin/sh does, in a sense07:50
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Flammiathen what does the chmod +x modify it to??07:50
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pussfellermaking it executable means you can run it, which is what +x does07:50
FlammiaI understand it must be done... but why??07:51
Flammiagotcha... executable07:51
Flammiaduh... x for executable07:51
pussfelleractually, i never asked myself why before07:51
drumlineFlammia: do you know how the octet for permissions works?07:51
pussfelleri wonder what subtereanean process that unleashes07:51
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Flammiaoi vey... the octect for permissions07:52
Flammiavaguely... I understand the premise, but not what each specific digit represents anymore07:52
drumlineFlammia: oi vey?07:52
pussfelleri always forget which ones are which07:52
pussfellerand I have to scroll down in man chmod07:52
drumlineFlammia: ahh...  ok...  4r 2w 1x07:52
Flammiaoi vey means nothing... I jsut say it sometimes07:52
pussfellerand then there is ugo to make it even more confusing07:53
pussfelleruser, group, others07:53
Flammiaso the chmod sets the permissions...07:53
drumlineI don't even use ugo... I think it's a waste of time07:53
Flammiathat explains why I was getting a very general error when trying to run it07:53
FlammiaI assume I need to sudo to use chmod??07:54
drumlinealthough there are occasions when ugo can be useful...  I'll say that.07:54
drumlineFlammia: yes..  07:54
pussfellerits good if you forget what each number stands for07:54
pussfellerFlammia: makeing a script 777 means everyone can write it, execute, or read it07:55
pussfelleror any file for that matter07:55
Flammiaso by running chmod +x, I add 111 to a script's permission key??07:55
Flammiato allow anyone to run it07:56
pussfellerthats a good question07:56
pussfelleryea that changes all the perm07:56
Flammiaer... well, it would only be 111 if nobody could run it before using chmod... othewise it's confusing07:57
Flammiaso what do the "user" "group" and "others" refer to??07:57
FlammiaI always thought the numbers related to "root" "users" and "guests"07:58
pussfelleryou are user, group is the group the file belongs to, and others, are people who arent either07:58
pussfellerif you do ls -alh in your home dir you will see stuff that relates07:58
Flammiaso the only way to make something accessible only to root, you would have to be root and set permissions to 700??07:59
Flammiaor does root automatically get 7 for all files??08:00
pussfellerroot can do what it wants to anyfile on the system08:01
pussfellerand if you want people to read, but not write, you could do 74408:02
pussfellerroot has all 3, group and others have read only08:02
Flammiaalright... so i get what user and others refer to... but I'm a little sketchy on group08:03
drumlinegroup is what group the user belongs to in /etc/group08:04
drumlinegroup or groups08:04
pussfellersay you wanted to share files, but only certain people were allowed to chnge the files, you could make a group, put those users in the group, and then chmod 77408:06
Flammiaoh, cool08:06
pussfellerand chown user.group -R filedir08:07
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FlammiaI'm assuming the chown part is to determine which of the user's groups gain access08:07
pussfelleryeah it determines who "owns" the files08:08
Flammiaanyways... the script worked :)08:11
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Flammiahey... has anyone heard of a bug where the keyboard doesn't work in flash??08:17
pussfellerwhats the command to remove only a certain package and not the dependencies08:19
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FlammiaI'm telling you man... use adept08:25
FlammiaI think it gives you the option08:25
aftertafand adept is full of kde goodness08:25
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aftertafand hi Hobbsee again ;)08:27
Hobbseehehe hello again aftertaf 08:27
Kamping_Kaiserhey Hobbsee08:27
Flammiawhoa, people are talking in here!!08:27
Hobbseehey Kamping_Kaiser 08:27
HobbseeFlammia: of course08:27
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Hobbseeaftertaf: i join a fair few channels on startup...08:28
aftertafme 208:28
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aftertaf!lart Kamping_Kaiser 08:28
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Kamping_Kaiser!lart aftertaf08:28
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Kamping_Kaiser!lart Hobbsee08:28
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HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: you're supposed to do it quietly...08:29
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Kamping_Kaiserwhy? ;)08:29
aftertafwhy not?08:29
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Flammiaand I see Kaiser's active again08:29
aftertafnice :)08:29
Hobbseewell, Kamping_Kaiser was08:30
Flammialol.. defenestration is the only solution... Hobbsee knows his stuff08:30
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Kamping_Kaiserwtf is it/does it?08:30
HobbseeFlammia: definetly, and it's her08:30
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: answers.com08:30
Kamping_Kaiserlol. you called me her yesterday Hobbsee :P08:31
Flammiaah... sorry, miss08:31
Hobbseeyou cant, you've been defenestrated08:31
Hobbseehehe Kamping_Kaiser - you confused me!08:31
Flammiadefenestrate him again08:31
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Kamping_Kaiserwoot. 08:31
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Hobbseei hate to say it, but that factoid is rather innapropriate for me lol...08:32
FlammiaDefenestratology - The science of throwing things out/off of a window/opening/roof, preferably resulting in a fall of 5m or greater08:32
Hobbseehehe yeah08:32
aftertafHobbsee:  depends on the staplegun ;)08:32
Flammiayou can infer what defenestrating is from that08:32
Kamping_Kaiserlol. i see08:32
Hobbseedefenestration: the act of throwing someone or something out a window08:32
Hobbseealso means "getting rid of windows"08:32
Flammiadid you defenestrate your Windows??08:33
Hobbseeme?  no, it's still ther08:33
FlammiaI should... it's pissing me off08:33
Kamping_Kaiseryou didnt throuw it hard enough Hobbsee :)08:33
Flammialike seriously, if it has the option to push F6 to install to a SATA drive, you'd expect F6 to maybe, I dunno... work??08:33
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Hobbseehehe, nah..08:34
Kamping_Kaiserlol Flammia08:34
Kamping_Kaisernot unless you get the delux upgrade :O08:34
HobbseeFlammia: that's where you'd expect F6 to cause a BSoD08:34
Flammiaright... I got the deluxe upgrade to Kubuntu08:34
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Hobbseeah yes, definetly an upgrade08:34
aftertaflike the xbox 36008:35
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HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: which version of wine?08:35
aftertaf2 versions. one that costs more and is compat with old games08:35
Flammiathough my system's still rife with issues... most of which I'm too noob to fix :(08:35
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: whatevers shipped in dapper08:35
Hobbseeah ok08:35
Kamping_Kaiserfrom july this year08:35
aftertafFlammia:  noobness with a desire to get it working it a good thing08:35
jhealeyanyone try win4lin?08:35
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: why are you not using the proper wine repo?08:35
Flammiaerr... what's a wine??08:36
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: i pointed at it, and it didnt get me an update08:36
Kamping_Kaiserso i went :(08:36
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: how long ago was this?08:36
Kamping_Kaiserabout 4 hours ago08:36
Kamping_Kaisermaybe 208:36
jhealeyFlammingya, it allows you to run windows apps within GNU/Linux08:36
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Flammiawow... sounds useful08:37
Kamping_Kaiserit's cool when it works08:37
Kamping_Kaiseri had to get a dll from a doze using mate for google earth to start installing08:37
jhealeyyes, also try win4lin, a commerical prod that I've heard is good....? .... anyone??08:37
FlammiaI especially love the idea of using a secure OS to emulate an insecure OS... it's almost like there was no point in switching to linux08:37
Kamping_Kaiserand it buggered up during install, so i have to try again later08:37
Kamping_Kaiserjhealey: yeh, it's supposed to be.08:37
Kamping_Kaisermate used it08:37
Hobbseehttp://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb <-- Kamping_Kaiser there's a newer version if you follow those instructions08:38
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aftertafKamping_Kaiser:  try qemu08:38
Kamping_KaiserFlammia: WINE Is Not An Emulator08:38
Flammia"for Debian"08:38
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: you can usually download .dll files, you know08:38
Kamping_Kaiseraftertaf: i don't want to use Windows :S08:38
Kamping_Kaiseri want google earth to run in linux08:38
jhealeyFlammia: yeah, that is kind of odd, but we all have some app we still need08:38
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: it was just as quick asking somoene else to get it to me :)08:38
Flammiawill apps aimed at Debian still work with Ubuntu?? (I hear we're Debian based)08:38
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: mmm....maybe08:39
Kamping_Kaiserwith more or less success08:39
FlammiaKamping_Kaiser: not an emulator??08:39
Kamping_Kaiserno, it's (quote) an api translation layer08:39
Hobbseei used 0.9.1, IIRC - worked ok08:39
Hobbseeof wine, that is08:39
Kamping_Kaiseri saw 0.9.2 is on wines repos08:39
ClayGwine is not an emulator like gnu is not unix08:39
Kamping_Kaiserbut it wouldnt update me *downloads by hand*08:39
Flammiaah... if I knew what that was, I might understand08:39
Flammiauhh... Gnu??08:40
Kamping_Kaisergnu is not UNIX :|08:40
jhealeya recursive acronym, Flammia08:40
Hobbseeyeah, 0.9.2 is teh latest08:40
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jhealeyFlammia, check out www.gnu.org08:41
Flammiawell, I know I'll be looking to install a Windows game at some point... guess I should acquire Wine08:41
HobbseeFlammia: might be worth trying cedega08:41
jhealeylots of good info about why we should call our OS a GNU/Linux OS, not a Linux OS08:41
ubotuI heard cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/08:42
Flammialol... a recursive acronym08:42
Flammiathat is so wrong on so many levels... it's like a solution to a 4th year engineering problem08:42
Kamping_Kaiserlol. get used to it08:43
Flammiaso cedega is an alternative to Wine??08:43
aftertafFlammia:  geeks cant be good at everything08:43
jhealeysetting up my wireless NIC was like doing japanese arithmetic08:43
aftertafFlammia:  sort of, but payware$08:43
Flammiaaftertaf: but we try08:43
aftertafjhealey:  looool08:43
aftertafa big lol08:44
aftertaf:] 08:44
jhealeylaughing over obstinate odd oval loudly?08:44
Flammiasetting up wireless??08:45
Kamping_Kaiser=] 08:45
jhealeythat made no set08:45
Flammianever done it in Linux... is it painful??08:45
jhealeyyeah, i set up wireless on this nic08:45
jhealeyit was painful for me08:45
aftertafthings rarely do, jhealey 08:45
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jhealeyi used ndiswrapper08:45
Kamping_KaiserFlammia: it's either easy or impossibly hard. you may be lucky :)08:45
Kamping_Kaiserask ubotu08:45
Flammiawait... is there actually something XP does better than Linux??08:45
jhealeywhich requires the *right* win32 driver for my NIC08:46
Flammiait takes approx 12 clicks to get wireless working in XP08:46
HobbseeFlammia: oh, occasionally, there is something08:46
Kamping_KaiserFlammia: if you have your driver cd....08:46
Flammiawow... my tiny mind has just been shattered and disillusioned08:46
jhealeyyes, wireless in XP was a lot easier08:46
jhealeywhat happened Flammier?08:47
Kamping_Kaiserthe penguin isnt all dancing :)08:47
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FlammiaI learned that not every distro of Linux is superior to XP in every way08:47
jhealeynope.  XP is the better desktop OS in some categories08:47
jhealeybut the negatives outway the positives for me08:48
Flammiameh... doesn't matter how good it is if you can't install it :P08:48
ClayGjhealey: I got to say that xp rivals alot of it's linux counter parts08:48
jhealeyi definetly recommend it for idiots08:48
FlammiaI recommend Linux for idiots08:48
ClayGof coarse that is compairing xp to gnome/kde/someother windowmanager08:48
Kamping_Kaiserit depends on the ididot08:48
jhealeyand people who don't mind lining the pockets of evil scumbags08:48
Kamping_Kaisergaming idiot=Windows08:48
Flammiabecause then I won't have to talk to them... I work tech support and we only support XP08:48
Kamping_Kaiserother idiot=linux (ubuntu)08:49
ClayGhahah true08:49
jhealeyhehe. i used to do tech support for MS too08:49
Flammianah... not for MS... we're just corporate whores, and only support XP08:49
Kamping_Kaiserjust as the conversation gets going08:49
jhealeythats not to say that all XP users are idiots, and it does depend on the idiot08:49
Kamping_KaiserI'm off to eat08:49
jhealeybye KK08:50
Flammiasee ya08:50
jhealeyFlamm: I see08:50
Flammiaactually, I retract my previous statement08:50
Kaiser_Eatslater folks08:50
FlammiaI recommend MacOS for idiots08:50
Flammiaget them off both my OS's08:50
jhealeyOS X sure looks nice, doesn't it08:51
jhealeyi was checking it out at Microcenter  the other day08:51
Flammiahey... since everyone's active now, I could use some help...08:51
jhealeybut some Mac dudes recognized me as a PC person and the ganged up on me and threw me out08:52
FlammiaI've got flash properly installed (as per kubuntuforums.net instructions, using adept), but I can't use the keyboard in it08:52
Flammialol... you got kicked by Maclom X08:52
Flammiahe's gonna lead the oppressed Mac users against the "man" (AKA Bill)08:52
jhealeyflammia, i had the same problem tonight using firefox/flash08:53
jpowersI like OSX08:54
jpowersa lot08:54
Flammia"had" as in past tense, as in it's fixed??08:54
jhealeyn ope08:54
Flammianever used OSX, can't make an opinion on it08:54
jhealeyit was on a Redhat traing course website08:54
Flammiait has the same problem in Konqueror08:55
jhealeythere was a flash applet dealio where I was supposed to enter text08:55
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jhealeythe box highlighted, but keystrokes did not make the characters appear08:55
Flammiathere's no way something like that could go unfixed if it was actually a bug... we must have something wrong08:55
jhealeyi guess so08:55
Flammiathat's exactly the same situation I'm in... the mouse registers, but no keystrokes08:56
jhealeymaybe it is a security setting of some kind??08:56
aftertafcould be that fmash sux08:56
aftertaf+l even08:56
Flammiabut flash plays games08:57
Flammiaand until I start emulating Windows, I have no other source08:58
jhealeyi had to give up games08:58
aftertafi found armagetron and got back into games :)08:58
jhealeybefore wiping the last NTFS/Fat partition off every on of my hard drives08:58
HobbseeFlammia: i thought it was shockwave that let you play games, not flash08:59
Hobbseeanyway, you got an example site where it wont let you type things in?08:59
Flammiawell.. don't think I installed shockwave...08:59
Flammiaand a lot of games are flash08:59
jhealeyi cunt give you my example, because it is from a secure website.  FLammia?08:59
poningruthere is no shockwave for linux08:59
Flammiasure... addictinggames.com/shadowofthewarrior.html09:00
FlammiaI believe is the URL09:00
jhealeywhen is the next release of ubuntu due out, anyone?09:00
Flammiatried with some other games off that site... none accepted keyboard input09:01
Hobbseejhealey: april 0609:02
HobbseeFlammia: as in, using the arrow keys, i take it?09:02
Flammiajhealey... not playing games is like not having sex... you can try to stop, but there's always that underlying desire09:02
Flammiauntil you turn 65, then you just don't care09:02
Flammiayeah... arrow keys09:02
Flammiaspace, ctrl, anything09:02
HobbseeFlammia: works here09:03
jhealeygood one Flammia, agreed. that is why I have PS209:03
Flammiaso it's something in my config...09:03
Flammiahow'd you install, Hobbsee??09:03
Flammiajhealey: I'd like to say I own a PS2, but console gaming is too expensive for me09:03
Hobbseeuh, let me grab the link09:04
jhealeyi have a good idea for a name of an ubuntu release09:04
jhealeyhow about "Hairy Beaver"09:05
FlammiaSlippery Sasquatch??09:05
Flammiayou need to alliterate09:05
HobbseeFlammia: which version of flash do you have?  http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/ 09:05
Flammiaand the previous 3 have been 4-legged furry mammals09:06
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Flammiamy text doesn't show all that well, either... think I don't have that something11 font...09:06
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Flammiaanyways looks like
HobbseeFlammia: http://www.macromedia.com/go/d9c2fe3309:07
Hobbseeupdate it from that09:07
jhealeyFlammia, i went to that website, i get blank buttons and a blank window also, no keyboard input09:07
Flammiablank buttons... no09:07
Flammiathey have slight markings on them??09:08
Flammiapossibly you're also missing the font??09:08
Hobbseemight be worht trying msttcorefonts on there too then09:08
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jhealeynope, they be blank09:08
jhealeyno markings09:08
jhealeyjust a 'brushed' looking button09:09
Flammiaso you get even less text than I do09:10
Flammiathanks for the link, Hobbsee... I'll try it out09:10
Hobbseeno problems09:11
Flammiahmmm... I installed through adept...09:11
Flammiais just installing "flashplayer-mozilla" good enough??09:11
jhealeyFlammia, wha part of the world do you hail from?09:11
FlammiaCanada, Ontario to be precise09:11
jhealeytexas here09:11
HobbseeFlammia: it is, but that's an earlier version of flash09:12
jhealeyseems like a font issue09:12
realjimshadycan anyone tell me how to disable zeroconf/avahi in kubuntu without uninstalling the package?  09:12
FlammiaTexas... cool09:12
jhealeycuz i cant see some stuff09:12
Hobbseethey found a security hole in it, as you'll see in the first link i sent you09:12
HobbseeAustralia here09:12
jhealeyeven when there is no 'input'09:12
FlammiaAustralia is like Canada, except for the southern hemisphere09:13
jhealeywhy, is there dollar worth 60 cents too?09:13
robotgeek_awayjhealey: go Texas!09:13
jhealeygo Texas wooo09:14
jhealeywooo. now i need a beer. don't get me riles09:14
robotgeekoops, this is not offtopic!09:14
FlammiaI've already got the flah installer off the website...09:14
jhealeyrobotgreek, are yoou from texass too?09:14
robotgeekjhealey: yup09:14
FlammiaI jsut couldn't find the proper directory to extract it to the first time, so I gave up and used adept09:14
FlammiaI dunno... what is an Australian dollar worth, Hobbsee??09:15
jhealeywhat part, growbotgreek?09:15
HobbseeFlammia: dont remember, look it up09:15
jhealeyi think they have drachmas there, not dollars09:15
Flammiaand $CAD is at around 75 rght now09:15
FlammiaI think09:15
jhealeyi used to have a pile of your change when I lived closer to the border09:16
jhealeynot any more though09:16
jhealeymore likely to have a peso...09:16
Flammiayou need Canadian bills09:17
Flammiathey're colourful09:17
Flammiaour 10s are purple!!09:17
Flammiano... colourful09:17
jhealeyno, colorful09:17
Flammiadon't be retarded with your lazy spelling and dropping u's in every word09:17
jhealeywe conserver our u's09:17
Hobbseecolourful here09:17
FlammiaI shall spell in the weay it is spelt where I am09:17
jhealeyi'm saving up all my u's09:18
Flammiaweay is Canadian spelling, too... yeah...09:18
jhealeyI've got 225,234,365 now09:18
Hobbseeour 10's are blue, or 5's are purple09:18
jhealeyi can use them any way I choose09:18
Flammialol... that's because you use so many extra saying "huuh??" all the time09:18
jhealeyhere, have 10  uuuuuuuuu09:18
Hobbseebut our 20's are orange and our 50's are yellow, and 100's are green - far prettier09:18
Flammiadamn, I'm sorry... I'm gonna stop racisming you now09:18
Hobbseeyep, yellow09:19
Flammiathat's ugly09:19
Hobbseenah, they're quite pretty - it's a nice shade of yellow09:19
Flammiaunless it's nice yellow09:19
jhealeythat's why bnt is my favorite linx09:19
jhealeybnt = ubuntu without the u's09:19
jhealeyflammia, check out www.ninjai.com09:20
jhealeyit is like the game you are trying to play09:20
Flammiahe's so short!!09:20
FlammiaI can watch it fine09:21
Flammiaexcept that my video card can hardly handle it09:22
Flammiayes, I'm serious... my video card can hardly handle flash animation09:22
jhealeywow, what card is that?09:22
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jhealeyreferring to the fact that I must leave,and not the city in japan of the same name09:24
poningruI thought that was someones name 09:24
jhealeyit would be a good one09:25
jhealeysee you later CanadaFlammia09:25
jhealeyand Hobbsee09:25
jhealeyfrom the land of Mad Max09:25
Flammiasee ya09:25
jhealeyand deadly killer Wollabees09:26
jhealeyand Tarantularoos09:26
jhealeyand vicious flying poisonous housecats09:27
jhealeyand whatever other wierd animals you've got 'down unda'09:27
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freeflyinganyone know how to use ipod under kde09:35
manverufreeflying, you plug it in09:36
freeflyingmanveru: y, but nothing happen 09:37
manveruwell, you've got amaroK?09:37
manveruand wich KDE are you using?09:37
freeflyingmanveru: amarok will not find it 09:39
freeflyingI'm using kde3.5 under dapper09:39
manveruah... welcome to KDE 3.5 :)09:39
aftertaffreeflying:  and does an update want to remove 9/10ths of kde?09:39
manverufreeflying, my best bet would be to edit the /etc/fstab to reflect your ipod09:40
freeflyingaftertaf:  y , because some packages shall be rebuild against the kdelibs4c2a09:40
freeflyingBus 005 Device 004: ID 05ac:1204 Apple Computer, Inc.09:41
freeflyingbut it can not be mounted09:41
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aftertaffreeflying:  nothing appears in /media?09:44
freeflyingaftertaf:  it can not be mounted 09:44
manveruaftertaf, this automount is buggy in 3.509:49
manveruyou have to mount it yourself09:49
freeflyingmanveru:  ur sure that there are bugs with automount in kde3.509:52
manverui've heard these problems now from ~15 people in here09:53
manverui'm never doing anything with cds, dvds usb-sticks or ipods - that's why i don't know how to solve it09:53
freeflyingbut they are using breezy09:53
freeflyingmanveru: actually , usb flash drive can be used ,and it can be mounted automately09:54
manverui see09:55
freeflyingsomeone have talked this with me in kubuntu-devel hrs ago 09:56
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ninHerhi all10:08
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bam_commandline question10:23
bam_mv *.zip /dir/something/ 10:23
bam_how do I force an overwrite10:23
robotgeekbam_: -f10:24
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cynehow do i force a disk check on reboot?10:28
cynei had a blackout10:29
cyneand my computer shut down improperly10:30
cynenow it says my disk is 100% full10:30
cynei need to check it but how?10:30
manverucyne, well, use the recovery-mode10:33
manveruor some live-cd10:33
manverubecause you cannot boot a full disk10:33
cynewell i did :)10:33
cynethis is the computer10:33
cynei need to fsck on next boot... how do i force that?10:34
manveruwhy fsck?10:34
cyneto check the disk for errors because my computer shutdown in a blackout10:34
cynethat's why the disk is full10:34
manveruyou can fsck from recovery-mode10:35
cynerecovery mode?10:35
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cynehow do i do that?10:35
manveruchoose it in grub10:35
cyneok thanks 10:35
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paul__hi, i've just installed kubuntu, install went fine, however on init 5 it loads the gui and then just freezes 10:50
paul__i.e freezes on a blue screen with the mouse pointer.. i can load console fine, i'm assuming that there is some issue with my startx settings10:50
aftertafpaul__:  can you press ctl+alt+F1 and get to console?10:51
paul__wondering if someone can give me some pointers on how i can debug/ resolve this, as i'm currently only got a console machine!10:51
aftertafpaul__:  whats your gfx card?10:51
paul__aftertaf: i didnt try that, i'm currently in console at the moment 10:51
paul__aftertaf: latest geforce stuff, 10:51
Kamping_Kaiserdo you have the default driver installed?10:51
aftertafpaul__:  definitely a X problem10:51
manverupaul__, run 'sudo dexconf'10:52
Kamping_Kaiser linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-6-686 - Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV YAYAYAYYYY10:52
paul__ok i didnt open irssi in a screen so i'll have to quit irc for that 10:52
Kamping_Kaiserstart another console10:52
manveruyou have more consoles...10:52
paul__how can i get to it ? :D10:53
manveruup to f610:53
paul__its just a flashing cursor 10:53
paul__like its not loading 10:53
paul__i.e no root@machinename.. 10:53
manveruyou're in recovery?10:53
aftertafpaul__:  quit out and screen back in ;)10:53
paul__yah recovery 10:54
manverustart your computer normal again10:54
paul__give me a minute or so and i'll get back into normal and try control alt f1 10:54
Kamping_Kaiser a nasty hack is remove the x bit from init, then boot usual10:54
manverupaul__, cu later10:54
aftertafKamping_Kaiser:  as long as he doesnt log in via kdm it doesnt freeze10:54
paul__my system specs are v7800 gefore card, x2 4000 2gb ram 10:54
aftertafpaul__:  and we'll cjeck your xorg.conf10:54
paul__i'll be back in a minute 10:55
aftertafwhoah :] 10:55
Kamping_Kaiseraftertaf: yeh. so he chmod -x 's kdm and he can boot10:55
ubotuIt's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)10:56
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paul__back again.. sucessfully able to use the different consoles with control alt 10:59
paul__X windows still doesnt load though :(10:59
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Kamping_Kaiserpaul__: have you installed dirver?11:00
manveruwell, let's do following steps...11:00
manverupaul__, wich processor do you have?11:00
aftertafx2 400011:01
paul__yep 11:01
aftertaf64bit smp?11:01
Kamping_Kaiseryep. rofl11:01
Kamping_Kaiserno drivers for you11:01
paul__nah i just installed the i386 version11:01
Kamping_Kaiseroh, lol. damn :( :-p11:02
aftertafpaul__:  64 bit processors?11:02
manveruthat's what you need, tho i would recommend a k7-kernel at least11:03
paul__-legacy makes me think its older 11:03
manverubut not sure how they work with 6411:03
Kamping_Kaiserwhat's the vid card?11:03
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Kamping_Kaiserlegacy? wtf you using that for?11:03
paul__i'm not!11:04
paul__i just installed the default install thing. 11:04
aftertaflol. manveru got his mouse tangled ;)11:04
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manverui have no mouse...11:04
aftertafpaul__:  you have a biprocessor PC right?11:04
paul__where abouts is my 'startx' config?11:04
manverulinux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-k7-smp-nvidia-legacy (this one? :)11:04
paul__yep aftertaf guess you could call it that for the moment anyway 11:05
aftertafpaul__:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:05
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paul__if i rm -rf it will it go through the configuration phase again 11:06
Kamping_Kaiserwb incubii11:06
aftertafwe cant see what 64bit kernel packages are around, apt only knows about those for our architecture11:06
incubiithanks Kamping_Kaiser , how you doin11:06
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Kamping_Kaisernot bad. chilling. yourself mate?11:07
paul__or is there a command to get back to the gui settings for startx 11:07
aftertafpaul__:  no dont do that... you can edit your xorg file with nano11:07
aftertafsudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:07
Kamping_Kaiseruse dpkg :|11:07
incubiilikewise, just enjoying my day off11:07
paul__aftertaf: i'm not using my cpu as 64 bit, i'm just installing the regular i386 stuff so essentially i'm guessing i'm only currently using 1 of the 2 availible processors but that doesnt worry me 11:08
aftertafpaul__:  Kamping_Kaiser       First thing i thionk would be to use the "nv" driver to get X up and running, then sort out the nvidia restricted bits later.11:08
incubiibut isnt it always the case, you start your day off, wake up and first thing you get is 15 calls from work about XP machines that wont work11:08
aftertafpaul__:  which iso did you install from? the 64bit one?11:08
paul__ner just the i386 non 64 bit.11:08
Kamping_Kaiseraftertaf: sure, but use dpkg, that's what it's for ;)11:09
aftertafpaul__:  ahh. i think that might be part of the pb too...... you cant upgrade from 32 to 64 bit11:09
aftertafwhat do you reckokam?11:09
aftertafwhat do you reckon Kamping_Kaiser ?11:09
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Kamping_Kaiserno, you cant upgrade across arches11:10
Kamping_Kaiserwell actualy, i thiunk you can11:10
Kamping_Kaiserbut i havent11:10
aftertafnot easily. and you can run a 32bit on a 64bit pc no worries?11:10
Kamping_Kaiserno idea there11:10
Kamping_Kaiseri asume so11:10
Kamping_KaiserIBM make their chips properly :)11:10
paul__you can 11:12
paul__i ran windows xp pro without issue11:12
Chousukeit depends on the processor.11:13
paul__you just close yourself out of 1/2 the cpu power11:13
Hentai^XPlol incubii11:13
incubiiyou following me now :P11:13
Chousukepaul__: What CPU does this? :P11:13
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Chousukeat least AMD's 64 bit processors should be able to run at full speed in 32 bit mode.11:13
Hentai^XPincubii I been here for a while11:14
Hentai^XPin here11:14
Kamping_Kaiserthey can Chousuke:|11:14
incubiifair enough11:14
paul__whats is the shortcut to get back to the xwindow screen?11:15
Tm_Txorg updating11:17
aftertafpaul__:  alt+F711:17
incubiii should update my laptop, its still running release breezy, lol11:18
aftertafpaul__:  you could try this : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg11:18
manveruhow about a little and effective dexconf?11:18
aftertafdexconf? never heard of that... :] 11:19
manveruhave a look at it :)11:19
manveruit's the thing that builds the configuration11:19
manveruseems like he got it right...11:20
aftertafwill it auto reconf my X?11:20
manveruit will11:20
aftertafwithout asking?11:20
manverubetter make a backup11:20
aftertaf:] 11:20
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sverihi, i even installed apache and apache2 on my system, then i removed apache, and now i cant get apache2 working, i even deleted the config files in /etc/apache2/* and now i cant get them back, removing and reinstalling doesn't help, is there a way to completely remove and reinstall apache2?11:47
Kamping_Kaisersudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 && sudo apt-get install appache11:48
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liamnever tried this before11:56
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Kamping_Kaiserheh. yeh11:57
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aftertafbleedin' stoodents :] 11:58
aftertaffrom t'north of england11:58
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Kamping_Kaiseryay for rammstein11:59
khalifMorning to all!11:59
aftertafmornin ;)11:59
Kamping_Kaiserhi mate11:59
aftertafgerman metal?11:59
khalifI was wondering if someone could help me out for a spot?12:00
Kamping_Kaiserkhalif: maybe ;)12:00
khalifI'm a total noob to 'nix and I just installed Kubuntu on my ThinkPad.....12:00
khalifI'd really like to change the look of it a bit and I was was wondering if someone might be able to tell me how to install icons and themes....12:01
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Kamping_Kaiseraftertaf: is probably your man12:02
Kamping_Kaiseri might be able to help with more technical questions12:02
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aftertafwhereas i'm an eyecandy :)12:03
aftertafKamping_Kaiser:  me neither, since dapper. im on e1712:03
Kamping_Kaisersure :)12:03
khalifI know they have to be unpacked and placed in certain folders using the terminal, but I'm not sure which folders to place them in.12:03
aftertafkhalif:  does kdelook.org give any clues to that?12:03
manveruaftertaf, is dapper working nice with the efl-all stuff?12:03
khalifNot really. :(12:03
aftertafno pbs for now manveru but i havent updated it for over 2 months e1712:03
aftertafno cvs access here12:03
aftertafmanveru:  but it works fine12:04
manveruaftertaf, there are repos for that12:04
aftertafmanveru:  yeah but are they uptodate?12:04
khalifI know they have to go in the .kde folder, but beyond that I'm not sure.12:04
manveruaftertaf, they are from... today12:04
aftertafmanveru:  which repos?12:04
aftertaf kdethemes is obtained by installing kdeartwork ("sudo aptitude install kdeartwork"), which will get you some more themes. You can switch themes using the "Appearence & Look" section of your KDE Control Panel (or System Settings). Also see http://www.kde-look.org for additional themes, that can usually only be installed by compiling them manually.12:05
manveruaftertaf, have a look over at #e12:05
khalifYou guys are going a little too fast for me....12:05
khalifCould we start over?12:05
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khalifDoes anyone know which folder icons have to be placed in since most don't come packaged like themes?12:08
manveru apt-cache search icon | grep kde12:10
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khalifOk, confused.... execute "apt-cache" from the terminal and then what?12:12
Hentai^XPapt-cacje search icon | grep kde12:15
Hentai^XPall in one go12:15
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khalifafter the word icon, is that an L or a line or what?12:20
khalifor a slash12:21
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Hentai^XPits a |12:23
Hentai^XPabove enter12:23
Kamping_Kaiserit's not always above enter :|12:24
manveruit's left from the y, to press with alt+gr on a german layout :)(12:24
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manverugerman layout is da pain for coding...12:25
khalifI got a message saying it couldn't stat source package list...12:25
manveruhave you got adept or something else open12:26
poningrukhalif: try to refresh12:27
poningruerr reload12:27
khalifI can open adept. Does using that require an internet connect, cause I don't have the thinkpad hooked up to  connection.12:27
khalifIt doesn't have an ethernet port :(12:27
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bdmp_just testing12:33
bdmp_can someone just say something, I am comparing xchat and chatzilla (firefox plug in)12:36
khalifSomething! lol!12:37
bdmp_anyone here use chatzilla firefox plugin?12:37
bdmp_There is the channel topic window at the top and it is really annoying12:37
manveruwell... is this going to be a chat-client-review?12:38
bdmp_What do you mean? am I going to write a review?12:39
manveruwould be cool tho ^^12:39
bdmp_I have no idea what I am doing. If the goal is too confuse people I would be more than glad.12:39
bdmp_Give me a couple weeks.12:40
manveruoh, you've got all time of the universe12:40
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bdmp_I use portable firefox at work I thought I might try it out on that12:40
bdmp_Anyway, I just installed breezy. woo, it is nice12:41
bdmp_gotta love that new adept thing12:42
bdmp_and did they change something with the repos? I didn't change anything and I am having no problems. In hoary, I had to add a bunch of repos.12:43
bdmp_one nice thing about this chatzilla is it has a button on the right that changes the input to multi-line input. nice for making paragraphs, I don't think xchat has that function.12:44
bdmpbdmp_ test12:47
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PaRezhave just same problem: looking for IRC client on Ubunto Breezy - at the moment, I try KDE's Konversation12:50
PaRezit has also no multiline support (or I didn't find it ...)12:51
raphinkkonversation is pretty nice imo12:52
raphinkotherwise there's also kvirc12:52
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PaRez:raphink: it is nice, but the12:58
PaRezmultiline support is valuable for formatting issues with longer statements ...12:59
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aftertafKamping_Kaiser:  u there?01:02
Kamping_Kaiseraftertaf: yep01:02
bdmpI am trying to get firefox to open bittornado when i download. What is the bin file name for the bittorrnado gui?01:03
manveru btdownloadgui.bittornado01:05
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bdmpmanveru, I looked for that file but it is not there so I think I don't have the gui installed, but when I search bittorrent in adept, I don't see the gui package. I remember there was one in synaptic under hoary01:11
manveruyeah, there is...01:12
hh2kHi.. I just installed KDE 3.5 via .deb packages, now I have some strange panel focus behavior.. anyone else have 3.5 installed ?01:12
manverubittorrent-gui or bittornado-gui01:12
manveruhh2k, welcome to 3.5 ^^01:12
hh2kmanveru: uhm thanks :)01:13
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bdmpmanveru, is that a package? both adept and the apt-get install give me nothing.01:15
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manverudo 'apt-cache search torrent'01:16
bdmpIs there something wrong with my sources.list file?01:18
manverumost certainly01:19
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:19
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manverutake the last one - gives you a shiny new repo-filled sources.list with everything you'll ever need01:19
bdmpI was looking for that the other day. Thanks01:19
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bdmpI tried gnome-btdownload and it worked. is that ok to use??01:21
raphinkbdmp : why not?01:22
raphinkalthough ktorrent or qtorrent might be more appropriate for kubuntu01:22
bdmpcause it is gnome01:22
raphinkwell if you're ok with gnome apps that's fine ;)01:22
bdmpI messed my gnome up once with kde programs01:22
raphinkI'm not ok because I can't bear the way they look ;)01:22
bdmpi tried qtorrent and I couldn't get it to work right01:23
raphinkwell I think it' seasier to mess gnome with KDE apps01:23
raphinkthan KDE with gnome apps ;)01:23
manverureminds me that i should switch to konversation now...01:23
pspusermanveru-  Im noo to all this.  could you tell me how to load a repository?  01:23
ubotumanveru: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about01:23
ubotumethinks repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource01:23
raphinkyeah ;)01:23
manverusince when?01:23
raphinkI've always seen it there01:24
ubotufrom memory, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list01:24
raphinkrepos is more complete ;)01:24
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:24
manveruthat's my favorite01:24
pspuserThank you! Im gonna sit back and do some reading for a few minutes.  01:25
ubotuhmm... easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:25
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raphinkwb manveru 01:26
bdmpthere is a warning about  some of the sources in the auto source list thing, are there any I should not use?01:26
manveruthe backports one01:27
raphinkwell you might use them, but they're more eager to be unstable01:27
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raphinksince backports are packages from dapper, built so they can be used in breezy01:28
raphinkhi Hobbsee 01:28
Hobbseehey Kamping_Kaiser 01:28
Hobbseehey raphink 01:28
bdmpI know I am dumb, but what is the sources.list location?01:29
Hobbsee /etc/apt/sources.list01:29
raphink /etc/apt/sources.list01:29
raphinkHobbsee: ;)01:30
bdmplike misplacing your glasses on your head01:30
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Hobbseebdmp: if it makes you feel any better, when i go to edit my grub menu list, i'll often go to sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst and wonder why i got a different screen to the one i was expecting :P01:33
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De[X] tonehello all01:36
De[X] tonehelp me pls01:36
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>01:36
Kamping_Kaiserif we know your problem we may help01:36
Hobbsee!tell De[X] tone about ask01:36
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De[X] tonethx01:37
De[X] tone!ask01:37
Hobbseebdmp: hehe...i'm not kidding - or i'll go to my breezy menu.list instead of the one that is written to the mbr - the dapper menu.list01:37
bdmp_Hobbsee: is hobbsee a reference to the last name hobbes?01:38
Hobbseebdmp_: no01:38
bdmp_my cousins are all hobbes so i thought i would ask01:38
Hobbseeah ok - no, it isnt, and if you had my full name and looked me up, you still wouldnt find me on the net01:39
djk_Hobbsee: you sure?01:39
Hobbseedjk_: fairly, yes, i've never found anything that actually relates to me by my full name01:40
Hobbseethere's an artist who's done some nice work with paper mache with my full name lol01:40
De[X] tone!ask how to get kubuntu by shipping01:40
ubotuDe[X] tone: Are you on ritalin?01:40
ubotufrom memory, shipit is For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/01:40
De[X] tonenot ubuntu01:41
De[X] tonebut kubuntu01:41
HobbseeDe[X] tone: same place01:41
De[X] toneoh okay01:41
De[X] tonethx guys01:41
bdmp_I didn't realize it was a bot saying are you on ritalin. that is funny stuff01:41
djk_you must have been on ritalin if you didn't notice :p01:42
bdmp_once the bot told me something about bread or somehting, and i didn't know what a bot was and I thought some someone was messing with me and I got all mad. ha01:43
LeeJunFanwhoop that bot's ass! you can DO IT!01:43
bdmp_and I was on ritalin in high school01:43
bdmp_then i dropped out. now i am fine.01:44
djk_eh. good?01:44
De[X] tonei am new user on linux01:44
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bdmp_well it is funny because it wasn't me it was highschool is boring.01:45
bdmp_hello De[X] tone 01:45
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De[X] tonecan i order the latest kubuntu at shippit.ubuntu.com?01:47
Kamping_KaiserDe[X] tone: no01:47
Kamping_Kaiseronly ubuntu01:47
Kamping_KaiserKubuntu is roumered to be shipping for dapper01:47
De[X] toneKamping_Kaiser : what do u mean for "dapper" ?01:50
Kamping_KaiserDe[X] tone: the next ubuntu01:50
De[X] toneoh great01:50
De[X] toneKamping_Kaiser : can i install the lates KDE 3.5 into my ubuntu 5.1001:51
De[X] toneany url tutorials for me ?01:51
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php01:51
Kamping_Kaiserbeat me djk_ ;)01:52
djk_yay. I'm the man, the MAN :p01:52
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hh2kyea install 3.5, i would like to hear whats happening to your panel after that 01:53
De[X] tonewhats wrong with the panel then ?01:54
Hobbseegot no idea, my panel's working fine01:55
hh2kwell i have auto hide on and can only get it up in the one side under the kmenu button01:55
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Hobbseehh2k: i think you'll find that there's an option for that...01:56
Hobbseeer, ok, mine's coming up from both sides01:56
hh2kHobbsee: then it's something new it worked fine in 3.4... can you get focus in the middle etc ?01:56
Hobbseebut i went from beta1 --> rc1 --> rc2 --> final01:57
bdmpI am using ktorrent for the first time and it lets you set one port to use. Bittornado lets you set a max port and min port, making a range.What port does ktorrent use if you are using more than one torrent?01:57
hh2kHobbsee: hmm ok strange.. though i had none of the rc's installed it should work the same i would think01:58
Hobbseeshould do01:58
manverubdmp: try it and sniff the traffic with ethereal01:58
bdmpis that a program ethereal?01:59
djk_manveru: shouldn't it be the port he set in ktorrent..01:59
djk_bdmp: yes01:59
manveruit should :)01:59
manverubut one can never trust software01:59
djk_manveru: especially not opensource...01:59
manveruexactly ^^01:59
djk_manveru: and that's why you use another program to check on the program..woot?02:00
bdmpbut you can only set one port.02:00
bdmpwhat if I am using 2 torrents?02:00
manverudjk_: i can sniff ethereal as well - using yet another program...02:00
manverubut hell, how do i check the kernel?02:01
Hobbseeuname -r?02:01
manveruand this gives me superior superiority over the kernel? oO02:01
Hobbseewhat did you want to know?  what kernel you're running?02:01
manveruuhm no02:02
djk_bdmp: so what? http uses 80,...you think multiple porn sites care about which port they go through02:02
manverui would cat /proc/version for that02:02
Hobbseeah, sorry...02:02
bdmpits not that simple02:03
bdmpporn is very complicated02:03
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Hobbseenight all...02:08
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aftertafsurf the split :)02:12
manveruwb ubotu02:13
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freeflyinganyone have experience of installing kubutu on ppc02:18
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ziadi wont to reset the password for root please help me02:19
ziadi dont remember it02:20
ziadi wnt to go to run level 102:20
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ziadhelp me please02:20
Kamping_Kaiserwhy do you want to enable root?02:21
_mindspindo you have physical access?02:21
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manveruubotu: tell ziad about root02:21
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ubotuhmm... root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:22
ziadthank you02:22
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BigKahunawhen launching an application (MOTV) i get en error saying a library does not exist (02:24
BigKahunalibXm.so.3) but I can see the library in /usr/XR11R6/lib. Any ideas?02:24
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BigKahunacarstenb, make up your mind ;-)02:26
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BigKahunayour nick02:37
carstenbBigKahuna, whats with my nick?02:37
BigKahunanothing, forget it.02:38
carstenbhow are you?02:38
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carstenbIm from germany02:39
BigKahunaI'm from England but currently in Singapore.02:39
BigKahunaget ready for the world cup?02:40
djk_good one BigKahuna. you know ze germans will lose :p02:40
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carstenbthe german will win :)02:41
BigKahunawell if Englands qualifying matches are anything to go bye, you wont get much hassle from us.02:42
djk_not with that defense, that useless ballack, that useless and overrated schweinsteiger, that extremely useless, overrated and annoying podolski.... need i say more?02:42
djk_BigKahuna: have you seen any of the german matches?02:42
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djk_celebrating a victory over south africa like there's no tomorrow..ffs.. that's like premier league vs 4th division..02:43
BigKahunathey are the hosts I didnt think they had to play any qualifiers?02:43
djk_albeit i'm not sure which one would be premier league :p02:43
MenZa`Fuball :o02:44
djk_BigKahuna: no they didn't.. but they're playing for the fun of it..02:44
MenZa`Foozball :o02:44
djk_BigKahuna: or better, to prepare...02:44
djk_MenZa`: yep, footy :)02:44
MenZa`Bah, real men practice martial arts02:44
MenZa`like me :o02:44
BigKahunaMenZa`, you prance around in your pyjamas?02:45
_mindspinI f you wanna have a ticket you have to strip blank first, 02:45
_mindspingiving all Informations to get identified02:45
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djk__mindspin: you going to any matches?02:46
_mindspinnope, no chance to get tickets02:46
_mindspinthey are mostly given to sponsors02:46
_mindspinand if you wanna get enlisted for tickets you have to give them when with whom all their IDs and so on...02:48
carstenbthe whole world wants tickets... but nobody have one02:48
_mindspincocacola has, budweiser, hyubdai02:48
_mindspinbtw. did you all upgrade to breezy?02:49
BigKahunacarstenb, are you building a new stadium?02:49
djk_i certainly don't want tickets. much better in front of a tv02:49
_mindspinI am still on hoarey02:49
carstenbBigKahuna, no02:49
BigKahunacarstenb, figures, tight-ass germans ;)02:49
_mindspinIt would have been a nice expetience for my son02:49
djk__mindspin: bring him to a St.Pauli game then ;)02:50
_mindspinwe go to kickers offenbach, kinda similiar02:50
_mindspinhamburg is too far awy from us02:51
BigKahunaYour all germans?02:51
djk_how dare you say something like that BigKahuna 02:51
_mindspinalthough I was an a lot of matches when they#ve been in league one and two ( St.Pauli)02:51
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_mindspinback to topic, is the /media /hal thing fixed yet?02:52
BigKahunawhen launching an application (MOTV) i get en error saying a library does not exist...02:53
_mindspinand I still have troubles with sound (atrsd) on my testing system which runs kde3.5pre02:53
BigKahunalibXm.so.3 - but I can see the library in /usr/XR11R6/lib. Any ideas?02:53
_mindspinI've read it but i have no idea maybe permission issue?02:54
_mindspinbut it sounds more like a dependency problem02:55
_mindspindid xou get the app from the repos?02:55
BigKahunaI just used apt02:55
carstenbBigKahuna, befor we Englishman leave into the stadium, we destroy it selfe02:55
djk_BigKahuna: that's motif3 isn't it?02:56
_mindspinbritish footbal is the best I have say02:56
djk_womens footy is the best :)02:56
BigKahunacarstenb, It depends if we get beat and how drunk we are.02:56
BigKahunadjk_, just a shame they dont swap shirts at the end of the game, right?02:57
_mindspinmost of them don#t care about men02:57
djk_BigKahuna: hehe, yea, but one took her shirt off during the EC in england this year :)02:58
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_mindspindoes anyone of you use the sshfs02:58
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BigKahunadjk_, motif3?02:59
manveru_mindspin: me02:59
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djk_BigKahuna: yes02:59
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carstenbkommt hier noch jemand aus deutschland?02:59
BigKahunadjk_, that will fix my library problem?02:59
_mindspinmanveru: does file locking work ?02:59
aftertafwooooo :)02:59
djk_BigKahuna: try copying the libXm.so.3 to /usr/lib02:59
manveru_mindspin: dunno? how do i lock them?03:00
ziadwhat is packege name for gaim03:00
manveru!info gaim03:00
_mindspinis there any file locking inplemented, as for to say, two users open files in the same folder on the remote drive03:00
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manveru_mindspin: no - who first saves will be overwritten03:01
djk_BigKahuna: i had a problem with opera 8.50 not detecting libXm although it is there, after copying it to /usr/lib there were no "not detected motif" messages anymore.03:01
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manveru_mindspin: afaik - i'm only sharing it with me, myself and manveru03:01
BigKahunadjk_, Nice one, it's working.03:02
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djk_BigKahuna: :)03:02
BigKahunadjk_, Cheers.03:02
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djk_sure thing :)03:02
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ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, funky is Get up,  (git awn up),   Get up,  (git awn up),  Stay on the scene (git awn up)..... like an ubuntu machine,  (git awn up). yeah granddaddy of funk :] 03:06
Tm_Tubotu: howare you?03:06
ubotuTm_T: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about03:06
Tm_TI can type03:07
Tm_Tubotu: how are you?03:07
ubotuTm_T: peachy03:07
Tm_Tuh, good03:07
kkathmanplease dont play with the bot03:07
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Tm_Twho's playing?03:07
seth_k|awayTm_T is just making sure ubotu feels loved03:08
seth_k|awayby giving it the time of day03:08
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kkathmanI saw Tm_T give someone a bad time the other day because they were doing what he just did :)03:08
Tm_Tkkathman: haha, true03:08
Tm_Tkkathman: I don't do it all day ong ;)03:08
ubotumethinks l3m is just great03:09
kkathmanI have to be careful tho, Tm_T will kick me out now that he's an op03:09
Tm_TI'm not03:09
seth_k|awaybut I am03:09
aftertafwell done seth_k|away  :)03:10
seth_k|awayfear me03:10
kkathmanyes you are, Riddell made you one the other day dude03:10
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Tm_TI'm not!03:10
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seth_k|awaysee all the people who left b/c they were afraid of Tm_T with op powers?03:11
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Tm_Taseigo: sir, you don't have to fear me03:11
ubotuaftertaf: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about03:11
Tm_TI should get some caffeine03:12
seth_k|awayjah, all new ops have to spend 72 hours straight in the channel giving support03:13
seth_k|awayyou'll need LOTS of caffeine03:13
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Tm_Tseth_k|away: uhm, I never give any support here ;)03:18
manveruTm_T: so you're basically idling around and looking serious?03:19
Tm_Tmanveru: serious and old03:19
seth_k|awayand drinking caffeinated beverages03:19
Kamping_Kaiserlol. yeh. that's Tm_T03:19
manveruhmm, caffein.... *disappears*03:20
Tm_Tyou wan't my soul? give me 100kg of coffee beans and 250l coca-cola/dr.pepper03:20
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Tm_Tand I might discuss about my soul ;)03:21
Tm_TKamping_Kaiser: you know, it's hard to look old and crumpy all day long, even in age of mine03:21
Kamping_Kaiserlol. we all have to work somehow ;)03:21
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seth_k|awayeep, class03:23
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_rysiekhi all03:33
Kamping_Kaiserhi 03:33
_rysiekany idea how to fix the media bug?03:34
_rysieki've been out of town for a week - did any fix come up?03:34
Kamping_Kaiserkde3.5? no, not that i know of03:35
_rysieknope, KDE3.4.303:35
Kamping_Kaisernot sure03:35
_rysiekthe thing with disk devices (cdroms, usb sticks, nfs drives, etc) not being added to media:/03:36
_rysiekok then, does anybody have an idea where are any conf files for that feature and what are their names?03:36
Kamping_Kaisercheck your up to date03:36
_rysiekdone a quick google search, didn't find anything03:36
_rysiekI've just done apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, I am up-to-date03:37
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jazwechi..please..i have to run a file *.COM03:57
jazwechow can i do that?03:57
jazwecwill wine make it?03:58
jazwecwill wine make it?03:58
jazwecsorry for double posting03:58
Kaiser_Sleepser. com? wtf for?03:58
Kaiser_Sleepstry wine03:58
jazwecits crack03:58
Kaiser_Sleepstry wine03:58
jazwecbut my wine is quite strange..nothing is doing when i type wine /path/03:59
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manverujazwec: did you set it up?04:07
jazwecmanveru oh..do i have to? :)04:07
manveruuhm - i didn't use it for some years now - but i'm almost sure you have to04:08
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jazwecmanveru how?04:12
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manveruubotu: tell jazwec about wine04:15
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bretzelWow! KDE3.5 is amazingly faster than previous versions !04:19
jazwecbretzel could you update it without loosing your data?04:20
bretzelFonts rendering are also now very clear and much nicer!04:20
bretzelActually the only hints I have is that in 3.4.3 I had yakuake loaded at startup and then it is again loading in 3.5 after the upgrade04:21
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bretzelI have to say I am using Ubuntu with kubuntu repo loaded and upgraded through synaptic.04:21
jazwecbretzel and how can you upgrade your kde04:23
bretzeljazwec : Are you also using Ubuntu ?04:24
jazwecbretzel kubuntu04:25
bretzelHey wow! Fonts are really good here now!04:25
bretzeljazwec ??04:26
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jazwecbretzel im using kubuntu but i have older version of kde..i have 3.4.304:31
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bretzeljazwec Why don't you just upgrade to 3.5 ? goto kubuntu.org and follow the simple steps ( editing your apt-get sources.list ) and do apt-get update then apt-get upgrade ( under sudo of course )04:33
BigKahunahow to kill a process from cli using process name not PID?04:33
bretzelBigKahuna: killall -9 [process-name]  ??04:34
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angasulehmm, I can't switch tabs in konqueror with the keyboard, and the google search bar doesn't work, any idea why? It happened before, the next window I open will work, but it's annoying05:07
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_rootis this the help channel ?06:05
jjesseyes _root 06:06
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_rootmy friend has instaled kubuntu 5.1006:06
_rootand when the instalation is completed06:06
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_roothe cant get to grub06:07
_roothe gets an error06:07
_rootgrub error 1706:07
frank23kde 3.5 is released. Are there still annoying bugs? like artsd crashing like before?06:07
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_rooti'we searched google for help06:07
_rootbut nothink....06:07
jjessefrank23: i use kde3.5 w/o issues06:07
frank23jjesse: none at all?06:08
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_roothe has just one hard disk06:08
jjessefrank23: yes none at all, it works quite well on my dell laptop06:08
_rootand in bios the first boot option is hdd006:08
angasule_root: does he have any other OS in that computer? or just kubuntu?06:08
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frank23jjesse: great! I'll install it later on06:08
_rootyes, winXP06:08
angasuleI really don't know how to diagnose grub problems without being in front of the pc, sorry :? plus I'm new to kubuntu, I don't know what their magic dust does06:10
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_rootoky TY06:10
_rootbut have u any suggestion06:11
angasulehmm, I found what error 17 means: This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB. 06:12
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angasuleis the hard disk SCSI?06:12
davormSCSI ? ( what means that )06:13
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angasulenevermind, you probably don't06:15
davormamm, tell me...06:15
davormi'm not such a n00b...06:15
angasuleit's a fancy kind of hard disk06:15
angasulehome users have IDE, usually06:15
davormservers have SCSI06:16
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ubotumethinks udev is a server used in Ubuntu (and other distros) that manages device nodes06:16
_zajacslvhi - after installing loki_games - i cannot make changes in menu - Please Help06:16
angasuleso, I can't really help you, I don't know enough06:16
davormoky ty 06:16
angasuleyou're welcome, sorry I wasn't of much use06:16
th3l4sts4mur41qualche italiano online ?06:16
angasuleio sono argentino :)06:17
th3l4sts4mur41la patria del pibe de oro :)06:17
judgeeyehi guys - i'm an debian convert and trying my first steps in ubuntu - but I have a problem installing kde:06:17
judgeeye  kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kamera but it is not going to be installed06:17
judgeeyecan you help me?06:18
angasulehehe si06:18
judgeeyei am trying: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:18
th3l4sts4mur41angasule --> secondo te conviene installare su kubuntu il gdesklets ?06:19
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angasuleth3l4sts4mur41: io non parlo italiano :)06:20
th3l4sts4mur41angasule: io parlo poco lo spagnolo :-)06:20
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raphinkangasule: not so bad for someone who doesn't speak italian ;)06:21
angasulejudgeeye: why would it mention kamera? it's not a kde base package or anything, weird06:21
raphinkth3l4sts4mur41: ci parli l'inglese per favore06:21
angasuleraphink: I'm half italian, like most of argentina, and I'm getting my italian citizenship soonish06:21
raphinkoh ok :)06:22
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angasuleI should really learn italian, hmm06:23
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laszlokis there any way to renew the nic without doing sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0?06:30
uboturegeya_: What?06:31
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regeya_ubotu, no, engrish is http://engrish.com06:31
uboturegeya_: okay06:31
ubotufrom memory, engrish is http://engrish.com06:32
_sarahas anyone beign able to install themes with the new superkaramba?06:32
laszlok_sara: yes, what version of kde?06:33
_sarakde 3.506:34
laszlokk then yes i have and i seems to work fine06:34
_sarahow you do it. I tried installing liquid wheather from get new stuff and no lick06:35
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_saraluck no lick06:35
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laszlokdid it give an error?06:36
_saracould not rename partial file /tmp/kde-sara06:36
_saraplease check permissions06:37
laszlokokay its giving me the same thing06:37
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laszloki think last time i install liquid wheather i downloaded it straight from the site06:37
_saraI already chek permission and I am the owner and can write and modify06:38
_saraI also tried dowloading it from the website but I get a kate seesion with weird characters06:38
laszlokright click --> save as06:39
laszlokso it wont open in kate06:39
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_saraok i'll try06:40
_saraI have a save link as is that the same06:40
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laszlokya thats the one06:41
_sarayeap it works now, thank you. I still wonder why the other way doesn't work06:42
laszlokthe kgetnewhotstuff still has some bugs i think06:43
_saraohh thank you again06:43
laszlokso hows the weather?06:43
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_sarawaiting for  to  a foot of snow06:45
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laszlokya me too, i should be going to class but i dont want to venture outside06:46
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_saratoo sick to go to school today hopefully with the snow I have a better excuse06:47
davormhi, is there any key or simbol to auto complite the name of a file when u wont to open or do a command in shell06:47
laszlokwell i have to jet, or ill be late06:47
sampandavorm, the <tab> key06:48
laszlokdavorm: tab06:48
davormoky ty06:48
davormnice really ty06:48
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pinguinohi all07:16
pinguinolittle problem post installation, Can anyone help me?07:16
pinguinothe installation went good, but after rebooting i see only a frozen psichedelyc screen and the mouse arrow... tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but nothing... any hint?07:18
pinguino(please.... :-)07:18
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pussfellersomeone tell me what happens when you click on a link in a kde app.. does konq open the webstite, or do you get a text file downloaded into /var/tmp/kdecache ?07:28
pussfellerlike in konversation07:29
pussfellereverytime I click a link, i am getting a text file, this is driving me nuts07:29
libbenI wanna reinstall XP on my other drive, and its where grub is located also and mbr. what should i do? reinstall xp as usual? boot with kubuntu livecd after that and then overwrite the mbr with grub-install ?07:29
djk_pussfeller: i've set konversation to open the link in opera..07:30
djk_libben: pretty much yes.07:30
libbenpussfeller: check ur options07:30
djk_libben: although you can also use the install cd to reinstall grub..07:30
pussfelleri have been looking thru options, but i see nothing07:30
djk_pussfeller: bevaiour -general, somewhere around there.07:31
libbendjk_: isnt that a messy way? i mean, go thru partioning and all that. 07:32
libbenbut ill take it i can get help when im done with windowsxp install, and get back here.07:32
djk_libben: not really.. i guess it doesn't matter, but i wouldn't say messy ;)07:33
pussfellerdjk_: this is a kde prob, not application specific07:33
pussfellerit does it in all kde apps07:33
pussfelleri assume the file associations are somehow set wrong07:33
djk_pussfeller: ah, misunderstood you then.07:35
pussfellerdjk_: but do you get what I am saying, instead of the webpage itself, from the internet, I get a text copy opened up in a temp cache07:36
pussfellerdo you get that?07:36
libbencan i do the installation thing, without reformating the hds ?07:36
djk_pussfeller: yea i get it now. mmh, weird07:36
djk_libben: yes.07:36
pussfellerthis is annoying as heck07:37
pussfellerits been like this thru 3 upgrade07:37
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pussfellerhah, i fixed it, the file association was konqueror insteead of kfmclient openURL %u text/html07:44
pussfeller1 annoyance down, 3 million to go07:44
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Kraftstoffhi. is it any page in wiki where I can find information about setting "Ctrl+Alt" as keyboard switcher in KDE? :)07:46
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_stefanhallo allemaal08:09
_stefanzijn hier nederlanders?08:09
_stefanis there someone who can help me please?08:10
Steledepends on the question i  guess08:10
Stelefor example, we probably can't help you with a heart transplant08:10
_stefani whas traying to upgrade my KDE to the latest version so i add a mirror to apt and it whas wrom and now i cannot open apt anymore can you help me ?08:11
SteleI can't but maybe someone else here can08:11
EauTisseguys, I'd like to create a KDE desktop "template" kit for setting new user accounts up on a Ubuntu box ... what files do I need to copy ?08:11
RiddellEauTisse: /etc/skel08:12
_stefanplease yust help me with it08:12
EauTisseah, ok, thanks08:12
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_stefanwhat can i do to reset my apt server list?08:13
hunikaraphink: Hello08:13
_stefanhello someone there to help me?>08:14
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_stefanhello anyone?08:18
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_stefancan you please help me 08:20
gersti could try..08:20
_stefanmy adept server list is failed i cannot start adept anymore08:20
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gerstapt-get works in console?08:23
_stefanbut i dont know how08:23
gerstuse that :D08:23
_stefanno please help i am a beginner user08:23
gerstme too :D08:24
gerstso.. sorry08:24
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gerstim new to ubuntu08:24
gersti was a suse user08:24
_stefanme to08:24
_stefando you know how to configure update server list?08:24
_stefanja vanuit console?08:25
gerstuse mcedit or whatever editor U like08:26
gerstyou have to be root for this08:26
_stefanheb jij het bestand niet meer?08:27
_stefankan ik hem namelijk gewoon vervangen 08:27
_stefanoh sorry08:27
_stefando you have the .list file for me ?08:27
_stefanso i can yust replace it08:27
gersti will paste it to you in private ok?08:28
_stefanah cannot send must register before private can be use08:29
_stefancan you send it bij mail?08:29
_stefanwat is this?08:29
manveruthis wonderful page is called pastebin08:30
manveruyou can take text - paste it and write the url of it here08:30
gerstI cant.. `cos Im not registred user..08:30
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gersthere is the list.. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77699.html08:30
manveruwas only a hint... they are really useful08:30
_stefanwich one08:30
_stefanthanks 08:31
_stefanwich one must i have 08:31
gerstmanveru good site08:31
_stefanplease wait i am going to past it08:32
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_stefanoke i whant to past it and save but i cant save i am not a root user i have no root pasword 08:34
_stefanits not visible08:34
_stefanhih yes i am normal user but havent made a root user is there normaly one made?08:35
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gerstthan user sudo mcedit...08:37
_stefanwhat is the defould root password08:37
laszlok_stefan: what happened to it?08:37
gerstthere is no default root psw08:37
_stefani cannot open the editor08:38
gerstor sudo passwd root08:38
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gerstand make a root psw08:38
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_stefanoke have a root password08:39
douglasIs there any programs comparable to audacity but using the kde/qt interface?08:39
_stefanoke managed08:41
_stefani am going to test it08:41
_stefanyes yes yes thanks for good help08:41
_stefanits resolved08:42
Stelesee i told you someone could help you08:42
_stefanoke can you allso help me to upgragde to kde 3.508:42
_stefanhow do i upgrade my KDE to 3.508:43
_martinRead www.kubuntu.org for info on upgrade to 3.508:44
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_stefanthanks guys must leave now see ya later08:45
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gerstis there an easy way to share an internet connection?08:50
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ClayGdial up or broadband?08:51
ClayGgerst: 08:51
ClayGI am hoping broadband, that just seemed like a dial up question08:52
ClayGif broadband, spend 20-30 bucks and buy a router from walmart08:52
gerstover pppoe08:53
ClayGdoes your wireless have little holes in the back that look like they are shaped like a big phone cord?08:53
ClayGyou have to find the cords that look like "big phone cords" and match them to holes08:54
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jarohey you guys09:02
jarohmm... i've got a new Router09:03
jarowill it work for Linux too ?09:03
jaroi mean despite the fact it says winxp on the box09:03
jaroits a D-Link 4-Port Ethernet Broadband Router09:04
hugelmopfjaro: if it is a normal router, there should not be any problems.09:04
kkathmanputtin Windows XP on the box is just a marketing gimmick09:04
pussfellerits kinda dumb to put it on a router09:04
kkathmanif they put Linux on the box...kinda dumb09:05
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pussfelleror at least, not put linux on the box, if you going to use something as redundant as an xp symbol09:05
kkathmanpussfeller: well not really...its marketing09:05
pussfelleri get ya09:05
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kkathmanif a person doesnt really know and they see one that says Windows XP and another says nothing, or Linux...they'll buy the winxp09:06
hugelmopfanybody of you experienced in network settings? i seem to have something messed up with my DNS settings, which makes konqueror load pages very slowly.09:06
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kkathmanhugelmopf: are you dhcp?09:06
jarohmm great guys09:07
pussfelleri bought a usb hd and they said windows and mac on it09:07
kkathmanthe network should get your DNS automatically then09:07
kkathmancould be that the DNS server it got is just yukky09:07
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kkathmanyou might try resetting your modem09:07
pussfellerand i had to stop and consider, is this one touch drive some sort of whack nut porduct that needs windows to work09:07
jaro... but the thing is when I loaded with my browser nothing happend, whereas on the other computer with winxp a loginbox came up09:07
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hugelmopfkkathman: that's what i thought. i did the kubuntu-installation at university, and now i saw the university domain showing up in /etc/resolv.conf (as "search") even though i am connected to my own dhcp-router here, so that doesn't seem right to me.09:08
pussfellerwell, jaro, its possible the routers webinterface uses activex controls to work09:08
pussfellerbut that wont stop the router from working right once its configured09:08
hugelmopfjaro: maybe more likely is that you have not setup your network on kubuntu yet?09:09
pussfelleryeah what he said09:09
jaroi had set it up with a static ip adress09:09
hugelmopfjaro: then set it up as DHCP now09:09
jaromaybe i would then have to change to dhcp ?09:09
jarohm ok... i must do that later.. 09:09
jarootherwise i wouldnt be able to chat ^^09:09
jarothanks for helping09:10
hugelmopfjaro: np. do you know/figure out yourself, where to change it?09:10
jarohmm 09:10
pussfellerso should i use ubuntu-server on my fileserver/gateway, or install freebsd on it09:10
pussfelleri dont want no gui09:11
jaroi had some kind of exp. with kubuntu now, which means, whenever I set the NetworkConfig with the ControlCenter, it didnt work.So i had to set it with a shell.09:11
hugelmopfpussfeller: you are in the wrong channel for an unbiased answer to that question ;-)09:11
pussfellernot really.. i wanna know if anyone has tried ubuntu server and found it to be good, bad, what09:11
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jarothe control center always forgot to add the Gateway to /etc/network/interfaces09:11
pussfellerdoes it need x to work?09:12
hugelmopfjaro: GUI tools might not be good, I am not using them. it should be easiest to edit /etc/network/interfaces itself09:12
pussfelleri suppose x wouldnt kill me, it would just be slow09:12
jarohugelmopf:  hm yea, but i thought it would be some kind of bug... because the networkinterface itself is really nice09:12
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Slyder0244my kubuntu is broken anyone think they can help me out09:17
hugelmopfSlyder: are there more details coming?09:19
Slyder0244yea i was waiting to see if anyone was around09:19
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Slyder0244i can't boot into kde i just get a command prompt for logging in and then no gui09:19
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ubotumixi: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:19
Slyder0244i think it's from where i tried to install a kdm theme 09:19
hugelmopfSlyder: if you login and issue "/etc/init.d/kdm restart" and look at the messages, if it fails, does that give you any hints?09:21
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hugelmopfsorry, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"09:21
Slyder0244well i'll reboot and try 09:22
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Oti1what's a good set of groups to register a new user account under if I want to make the account "idiot-proof" ?09:23
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Oti1there's "user", of course ...09:23
angasuleidiots are too clever09:24
Oti1are there somet groups that are "nested" in others, i.e. does "user" cover other groups too ?09:24
Oti1angasule: haha, yeah09:24
angasuleno, there's no nesting09:27
angasuleeach file has permissions for the owner, the group and the rest09:27
angasulehmm, I'm taking screenshots of kubuntu to show to some friends, but I can't find good hamster porn09:28
Oti1angasule: so if a user is not admin, they have to belong to a whole list of groups such as "audio", "cdrom" etc ?09:29
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Oti1.... in order to use the cdrom or the sound card ?09:29
Slyder0244well i tried that hugelmopf09:30
Slyder0244all it did was say kdm is stopping and then starting and nothing happened09:30
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angasuleOti1: yeah, unless everybody is allowed to use them, or a program run by a user that has access (like root) let's other use that resource09:31
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angasuleand my grammar is no good today heh sorry about that09:31
hugelmopfSlyder: then you'll have to consider your change again. it worked before some change, right?09:32
bam_anyone know how to make a certian program be the default open for a particular file type09:33
Slyder0244yea it worked before that but i already deleted the theme and the kdmrc file and restored the old one yet none of that seemed to help09:33
hugelmopfbam_: open Konqueror -- Settings -- Confgure --> there you can configure Filetype-Application links09:33
hugelmopfSlyder: how did you install the new theme in first place?09:34
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Oti1angasule: well those are the more obvious ones but there are a whole bunch of other groups that are less obvious09:34
Slyder0244i put it in the theme directory with the old one and then changed the line in the kdmrc file to point to it like it said on kde-look09:34
Oti1angasule: where's a good place to look for this kind of info ?09:34
Slyder0244could it be another problem beyond the kdm i just figured that had to be what caused the problem since i can't get to a gui login09:36
hugelmopfSlyder: i am a bit lost without more details, and since you have to reboot every time to try something, it is a bit difficult.09:37
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bam_hmmm lemme look again, sure I didnt see anything familiar09:37
angasuleOti1: I think the file /etc/group lists all the groups, no description or anything, though, but a nice starting point, maybe?09:37
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Slyder0244yea i see what you are saying hugelmopf i'm not sure what other details i could give ya 09:38
Slyder0244i just know i can't boot into kde and i'd like to be able to do that again ya know heh09:38
hugelmopfSlyder: you can try the following: login at the command prompt and issue "startx". see whether this starts up your KDE.09:39
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MoreFXHi! I am trying to get pcmcia to work on my thinkpad. Yenta is up and running but the wlan card is not detected. KDE reports two emty slots. Can I scan for pcmcia devices manually?09:39
Oti1angasule: well I can see the list of the groups in the config pannel for users & groups. I *especially* need descriptions ! ;-)09:39
Oti1angasule: but I hear from other sources that being part of the "user" group only is sufficient09:40
Slyder0244k i'll give that a try hugelmopf thanx09:40
hugelmopfOti1: what about looking which groups your main user is in, that should be sufficient, should it not?09:40
hugelmopfangasule: depends on what the user ought to do09:40
hugelmopf-angasule, +Oti109:40
Oti1hugelmopf: well my only current user is the admin user .. I do *not* want mam and dad to have the same groups09:41
Oti1I'll just try them out with "user" only09:41
Oti1see how that suits them09:41
Oti1cheers 09:41
angasuleOti1: create a new user, and then check what groups it belongs to09:41
hugelmopfthat wont be enough09:41
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hugelmopfaudio e.g. they might want ;-)09:41
_jaroROuter working now09:42
_jaroI just forgot to refresh IP09:43
bam_i see application  preference order but when I open it konquerer take over, dont want this09:43
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rysiekhello guys09:44
rysiekany ideas on how to make xmms/BMP play Monkey Audio (*.ape) files?09:44
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siouxhi people..  who hep me to configure 3d drivers for my ati range 128??  The guide in wiki do not work for range 128 :(09:45
gersthow can change the fonts under wine?09:46
siouxI sow something about dri and mesa which are already provided by kubuntu, but I am not able to configure it09:46
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angasulesioux: mesa is a software driver, I believe09:47
siouxangasule yes it is!09:47
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siouxATI do not provide offcial linux driver for that card :(09:48
Slyder0244well that didn't work hugelmopf, i think it's a problem with the xorg09:48
hugelmopfbam_: "kcontrol" -> "KDE components" -> File Associations09:48
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hugelmopfSlyder: but startx should have given you a bit more information about the error?09:49
Slyder0244fatal io error 10409:49
_martinHey guys. I hope you can help me with this issue. I've been running Kubuntu for the last 2 months and I love it. There is just one thing. I can't activate the WLAN card... I can do a "sudo kcontrol" and activate it but after 1 second it gets deactivate again >< Any ideas how I could fix it??? PS. I know the card is working, tested it in XP. It's an Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG09:50
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Slyder0244and it said something about not being able to start xorg i believe and i remember trying to disable xorg before i had to reboot 09:50
Slyder0244then after that reboot i couldn't get back into kde09:50
hugelmopfSlyder: where did you disable xorg?09:51
Slyder0244in the ksysguard i tried killing the process and then everything froze up 09:51
angasule_martin: I have breezy badger and the default install includes a Wireless LAN Manager (KWiFiManager), maybe that would be of use09:51
hugelmopf_martin: what kind of wireless network (encryption)?09:51
hugelmopfSlyder: you killed the x-server while you were using it? hmmmm... need more infos from "startx"09:52
Slyder0244yea that's what i did but i thought xorg was just controlling the tranlucencies and shadows....guess i was wrong09:53
_martinI have WPA encryption and MAC filtering09:53
Slyder0244how do you scroll up while in the command prompt hugelmopf 09:53
hugelmopfSlyder: Shift-PageUp 09:54
Slyder0244or would their be a log all of that was written to that i could read off the hard disk09:54
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hugelmopf_martin: MAC filtering is no problem. WPA: i'll let somebody else comment, i don't use it myself.09:55
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hugelmopf_martin: i think you will beed wpasupplicant, but i don't have experience in setting it up09:55
hugelmopf-beed, +need09:56
_martinHmmm, I managed to find the AP with KWiFiManager but I can't connect to it. I'll just remove the WPA encryption. No need for it anyway since I have MAC filtering :P09:56
sikor_sxewhere can i get kubuntu sourcecode?09:56
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hugelmopf_martin: MAC filtering is by far no replacement for encryption. anybody can spoof a MAC address09:57
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Slyder0244hugelmopf, Parse error on line 21 of section Files in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:57
Slyder0244that's from the xorg log09:58
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hugelmopfslyder: that looks very good. what is that line and its surroundings?09:58
Slyder0244i can send ya the log if that would be easier09:58
kkathmansikor_sxe: kubuntu.org09:58
kkathmansikor_sxe: but, kubuntu is basically ubuntu with KDE09:59
hugelmopfslyder: no, it seems you have already identified the right spot. maybe you could paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in http://kubuntu.pastebin.com09:59
kkathmansikor_sxe: so, basically you really dont get the "source" per se.09:59
Slyder0244can do hugelmopf 09:59
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_martinwOOt!!!!! KWifiManager worked now... connected via WLAN!! :D :D :D10:00
hugelmopf_martin: congrats. but read my line above!10:00
Slyder0244hugelmopf, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/45004010:01
hugelmopfslyder: i actually wanted your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and not the log.10:01
Slyder0244oh opps sorry10:02
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Slyder0244hugelmopf, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/45004310:03
hugelmopfSlyder: you might have already noticed yourself: the :unscaled " should not be on a new line10:05
Slyder0244yea i saw that was a problem i didn't know why though10:05
hugelmopfthese two lines need to be:10:05
hugelmopf        FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"10:05
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hugelmopf        FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"10:06
hugelmopfSlyder: have you edited xorg.conf with the nano editor?10:06
hugelmopfor with anything else?10:06
Slyder0244didn't even know where the file was till you told me10:06
hugelmopfstrange. but just fix these lines and reboot10:07
Slyder0244k now i just gotta get knoppix to let me write to the file last time i tried editing the files it wouldn't let me write them10:07
hugelmopfslyder: you'll have to do that as root. try "su" to get a root prompt10:08
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Slyder0244yea i went into su/root but it won't let me edit it, just says it can't set a read only document to be modified10:11
hugelmopfthen the disk is mounted read/only10:11
Slyder0244i checked the properites and changed it to read and write for every user10:11
True_Chaos|LaptoHey, I think im missing a driver or something, because my DVD drive isnt being recognised.  All its reading as is a cdrom drive.  Im on a laptop if that helps.10:11
Slyder0244and unticked the read only box10:11
hugelmopfTrue_Chaos: you might need libdvdcss to play movie DVDs10:12
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True_Chaos|Laptohugelmopf, k10:16
hugelmopfTrue_Chaos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:16
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True_Chaos|Laptoim not seeing libdvdcss in apt-cache search libdvd10:17
hugelmopfno, read my link10:17
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Kaloqn_8008try www.google.com10:18
nrdbHi I have just installed kubuntu, I was wondering what the root password was, I don't remember it asking me.10:18
hugelmopfnrdb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:19
True_Chaos|Laptonrdb, doesnt have one set...  use sudo10:19
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[Relic] is there an easy way to import configs from an old install to a new one?10:19
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nrdbI have just installed kubuntu, I was wondering what the default root password is, I don't remember it asking on install.10:21
hugelmopfnrdb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:22
True_Chaos|Laptonrdb IT didnt ask for one during install.  There currently is no root password set.10:22
True_Chaos|Laptonrdb, if you want to set a root password, type sudo passwd root10:23
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nrdbTrue_Chaos|Lapto: isn't this a bit of a security issue?10:26
True_Chaos|Laptodont ask me.  I just know how to set one.10:26
nrdbTrue_Chaos|Lapto: hugelmopf: ok I got my root shell now anyway, thank for the help.10:27
True_Chaos|Laptosudo is effectively the same thing10:27
libbenisnt there any ff 1.5 out for us numbs who dont know how to do it from source?10:32
_jarohey you guys10:32
kkathmanlibben easy...10:32
_jaroI would like to know where things install when I install them via kynaptic10:33
libbenkkathman: hit me with one then ?=)10:33
kkathmanlibben:  download it from the ff site, and install it in your home dir.  Then symlink it to /usr/bin10:33
kkathmanworks great10:34
libbenwhy symlink it ?10:34
libbenits not like i would type firefox in terminal10:34
kkathmanthat way you can just type "firefox" and it goes10:34
kkathmanI dunno how you want to access it10:34
kkathmanI removed the ff I had10:35
kkathmanthen deleted /usr/bin/firefox10:35
kkathmaninstalled ff 1.5 in my home10:35
libbenwell, when u try to access firefox, u should be in an x envoiroment. 10:35
kkathmanthen created a symlink in /usr/bin10:35
kkathmanyep...seeing thats kinda the purpose of a browser10:35
kkathmanyou can be at the CLI and type firefox and it should run10:36
libbenwhats CLI ?10:37
kkathmancommand line interface10:37
_jarocan someone tell me where I can change the desktop application type like from kde to gnome ?10:38
kkathmananyway thats how you install it simply10:38
kkathman_jaro just log out and re log in under gnome and it should ask you if you want to make it default10:38
_jaroand.. ok.. I installed Enlightenment from Apt, where did it actually go, and how can i find out where other installed programs go10:41
_jaroi remember there was some kind of command , some log file10:41
kkathmandont know about enlightenment10:41
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kkathmanthis is a kubuntu channel not enlightenment :)10:41
kkathmanbut i think there is an e channel out there10:42
True_Chaos|Laptohmm.  this is wierd.  I get audio but no video10:42
khalifGood afternoon!10:42
khalifHow is eeveryone today?10:42
_jaroi mean in general10:42
_jarohow can i find out in which Directory a program is gonna be installed10:43
khalifI'm a noob to linux and I was wondering if I could get a little help....10:43
dodgerwhich "programmname"10:43
_jaroany program10:43
_jaroin which file is that information ?10:44
dodgeroops, soory "be installed"? I think you can read the .deb file10:44
_jaroah wasnt there a config file from where i built a program10:44
_jarobut what if the deb file is on server10:44
_jarolike in Synaptic10:44
dodgerhmm, there is an apt-option that just downloads the file10:45
kkathman_jaro are you looking for /etc/inittab?10:45
True_Chaos|LaptoOk, when trying to play a dvd, all I get is really jerky audio.  This is a burned movie dvd, and works in my dvd player on my windows machine, and the dvd player for my tv... and I cant figure out why it wont play10:45
_jarowhat is that ?10:45
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dodgerwhat is what?10:46
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libbenkkathman: i just downloaded the tar.gz file. its just unpack it and run the bash script "firefox" ? why aint there a make and make install and all that ?10:47
kkathman_jaro it like tells you what things are started on your system10:47
khalifI want to change the look of my Kunbuntu desktop and I downloaded some new ones, but I can't install them using the icon manager.10:47
kkathmanlibben: because thats not the source10:47
kkathmanlibben: you said you didnt want the source10:47
kkathmanand yah thats all ya do10:47
_jaroonce again10:48
libbeni downloaded from getfirefox10:48
_jaro1. I start Kynaptic10:48
khalifcould someone tell me what folder I need to put the icons in and then what I need to do to get the desktop to use them?10:48
_jaro2. I install a program, which i found on some multiverse there10:48
_jaro3. I want to know how to actually start that program, and where it's directories are10:48
kkathman_jaro that wont get you 1.5 will it?  only 1.0.7 I think10:48
khalifAlso what folder do I place applications in that I want to use?10:48
kkathman_jaro: you want to know where firefox is?10:49
dodgerwell, you cannot read the deb-file, it's binary. but cat a deb file makes cool sounds :-)10:49
_jaroi wasnt talking about ff10:49
dodger_jaro: then you type which and the name of the programm10:49
_jaroit always says like /usr/bin ... 10:50
_jarobut thats only the binaries10:50
_jaronot the data folders10:50
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kkathman_jaro: to start the program...do whereis <program>  then just type it10:50
khalifAnybody have any experience with changing their icons in Kubuntu?10:50
kkathmanwhy do you want to know where all the directories are?10:50
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_jarobecause i want to know where stuff is on my computer ^^10:51
kkathmannah you dont need to know that10:51
_jarohmm.. and when will the K-Menu be altered ?10:51
kkathmansome proggies alter the K-menu others dont10:52
kkathmanbut you can edit the k menu yourself10:52
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_jaroi can10:52
kkathman_jaro some programs will give you a choice or where they install, others dont10:52
_jaroi never saw that10:53
pv_quite funny, installing the kde 3.5 packages frees 215 MB disk space (or so apt advertises)10:53
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kkathmanpv_ yah you soon find out why10:55
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pv_please enlighten me (even if this was a joke :)10:57
elgordo12345Hello everyone.   What is the opinion of KDE 3.5 ?    10:57
kkathmanelgordo12345: wait till it comes into the official repos10:58
elgordo12345ok.  so once it stabalizes they'll move it to the standard ones then right? 10:59
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elgordo12345great.  I'll let other people feel the pain first!   Thanks10:59
kkathmanbelieve me they are10:59
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gerstanyone knows a good online form fill program? like roboform under windoz11:14
nrdbHi I would like to use OObase to connect to a postgresql database, does anyone know if this is possible?11:14
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Slyder0244can anyone help me with my xorg.conf file11:17
angasulegerst: umh, I'm not sure what roboform does, sounds similar to the KDE wallet11:18
gerstcan kde wallet fill any kind of online form with 1 click?11:19
angasuleI don't fill online forms, so I don't know11:21
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libbenwhat does firefox %u does?11:26
angasulegerst: there's also a firefox extension called 'autoform' which may be of use11:27
angasulelibben: umh, ask in the firefox channel?11:27
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vblantonAnyone know why dragging a box on the desktop is slow and "laggy"?11:36
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khalifWhat do I need to do to get the "home" and "trashcan" icons to appear on my desktop?11:37
angasulevblanton: maybe you have the wrong driver?11:37
DRAGON_Ultrahow many things you doing at once11:37
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angasulevblanton: oops :)11:37
vblantonangasule: I'm running nvidia driver11:37
vblantonoops, sorry for the random letters, my cat is pouncing around11:38
khalifI would like to have the home and trashcan on my desktop. What should I do to enable that?11:38
vblantonDRAGON_Ultra: only one thing. talking here11:39
vblantonkhalif: you can drag the home icon on the desktop11:39
vblantonkhalif: as for the trash bin...11:40
khalifWhen I drag the home icon onto the desktop, will it just move the folder to my desktop folder or will it make an alias?11:41
vblantonkhalif: im not sure... one sec11:41
vblantonkhalif: it should ask you if you want to make a link or not11:41
vblantonanyone know how to add the trash can to the desktop? I can't remember11:42
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libbenhow do i install plugins for firefox 1.5 ? like macromedia and so on?11:42
vblantonlibben: macromedia isn't a plugin11:43
vblantonlibben: plugins are apps developed for the firefox browser, downloadable at the firefox homepage11:43
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vblantonlibben: in order to instal macromedia you can go to the macromedia webpage11:44
vblantonlibben: there are linux instructions there11:44
vblantondoes anyone else get a choppy effect when dragging a highlighting box across one corner of the desktop to the other?11:45
kkathmanvblanton: I do not11:45
kkathmanwell I say that...its not like windows I guess11:46
vblantonhmm.. weird. Especially since I have a geforce 6800gt and the latest drivers..11:48
vblantonnot that I really mind, but it's just funky11:48
vblantonmaybe I should upgrade to kde 3.511:49
khalifIf I wanted to install some new programs would I put them in /usr/share or in /usr/share/apps?11:49
DRAGON_Ultranever had good luck with Nvidia11:49
vblantonkhalif: well, first i'd check if Adept has it!11:49
vblantonkhalif: that way you don't have to deal with installing it yourself11:49
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vblantonkhalif: if Adept doesn't have it, then try opening Adept Going to Adept > Manage Repositories and enable the other repositories, fetch updates and check if Adept has it again.11:50
khalifI've gott Kubuntu installed on an old Thinkpad and because it doesn't have an Ethernet port I have to download programs using my iMac then move them to the laptop using my usb drive.11:51
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khalifSince I'm doing this manually, I need to know which directory to copy and un-tar the apps to.....11:51
vblantonIn that case, you can place them in your home folder, or in a system folder like /usr/games/bin or whatever. I'm not to knowledge about the system directory structure and where apps go, so you should ask someone else if you want to install it in the system.11:52
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vblantonBut, I usually install stuff in my home directory11:52
vblantonand then link to it in the menu11:52
khalifthanks vblanton11:52
vblantonno problemo11:52
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vblantonAlso, most apps will self-install themselves in the appropriate places!11:53
vblantonIf you are compiling them...11:53
vblantonhave fun11:53
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angasulewhat's a good kde-friendly bittorrent program? ktorrent crashes constantly12:00
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jarohi there12:02

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