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DaSkreechYon: Have you called the ISP?12:04
Yonit works in windows12:05
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Yonis there any special setting i need to do other then add the account name and password12:06
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Yonhelp me12:07
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DaSkreechwhat settings are you using?12:07
robotgeekYon: i have no experience with dialup, sorry12:07
_dodo_hallo! I need help, i've downloaded a new graphics card driver and i'll have to edit xorg.conf, but i dont know howto =)12:08
Yonwat do u mean DaSkreech12:08
DaSkreechYon: Kppp>12:08
DaSkreechYou have your Modem configured correctly?12:09
Yoni didnt touch anything other then adding the password and username12:09
Yoni dont know DaSkreech12:09
DaSkreechLook at configure12:10
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Yoni cant now, i need to reboot and cheak12:10
Yonwat else am i looking 412:10
DaSkreechah :-) Of course12:10
DaSkreechIs Windows on NTFS?12:11
DaSkreechKubuntu can see it?12:11
Yonwat do u mean it?12:12
Yonwat do u mean?**12:12
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DaSkreechWhen you are in Kubuntu Can you go to /media and see the Windows Hard Drive?12:12
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Yoni can mount it12:13
Yonbut where u going with this?12:13
kkathmanDaSkreech: you are doing fine...keep going...Yon, be patient12:14
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DaSkreechDo some research on the Internet for PPP (i suggest tldp.org or Linmodems.org) and the documentation for KPPP12:14
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DaSkreechAny thing you find that can be useful save it to the hard drive12:15
DaSkreechThat way you can open it and follow it in Kubuntu12:15
Yonkk thx12:15
Yonso u dont know wat the problem is?12:15
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Yonhave u ever used a dialup on kubuntu before?12:16
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DaSkreechno :-)12:17
DaSkreechBut I have used dialup before12:17
DaSkreechI admit I had an external modem which makes life much easier12:17
Yoni also have one, the thing is, i dial up, and it gives me authentication problems12:18
Yoni dont know why12:18
Yonpassword and all is correct12:19
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Lacertacan i make a program to run in system tray if i want?12:19
DaSkreechyou may need to call the ISP and ask if they have any support for non Microsoft OS12:19
DaSkreechI know of one that told me I had to have Windows to authenticate12:20
Yonok, ill try that12:20
Yondo u think that if i get a diffrent program to dial up it will help?12:20
DaSkreechMost likely it's some simple setting that needs to be set12:20
Yoni know! but i dont knwo wat settings12:21
Yoni dont know wat they need to be12:21
DaSkreechCall :)12:21
Yonim a newbie!!!12:21
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Yonu in linux now?12:23
DaSkreechWell if you look at the help file for kppp it should explain nearly all of the settings12:24
Yonone of the conpifs is whether its hardware / software or none, wat do i pick?12:24
DaSkreechRead through it and you'll get a better understanding of what to ask12:24
Yonkk, ill try12:24
Yonill prob brb12:24
DaSkreechThat's most likely hardware if you have an external modem :)12:24
KnowerrorsHey all, just did a fresh kubunut install yesterday, then updated all kde components, Im still having problems with administrator mode not working, any help please?12:24
Knowerrorskubuntu :)12:25
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HobbseeKnowerrors: use kdesu kcontrol?12:26
KnowerrorsIt looks like dcopserver is already running12:26
AnotherDatacan some one help me fix kde it is missing some packages12:26
Knowerrorstried systemsettings first, then just tried kdesu kcontrol and I get that message about dcopserver12:27
Hobbseewhat dcopserver message?12:27
HobbseeAnotherData: which packages?  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:27
Knowerrors"It looks like dcopserver is already running"12:27
Hobbseekillall dcopserver?12:28
AnotherDatafor kde 3.512:28
Hobbseeand i dont think kde even starts without it...12:28
bccshi everyone12:28
Hobbseehi bccs12:28
bccshow can i set the default webbrowser?12:28
HobbseeAnotherData: which packages?12:28
kkathmanHobbsee: it doesnt12:28
AnotherDataabout 6-7 of them12:28
Hobbseekkathman: oh good, i'm not going insane!12:28
AnotherDatanot sure which12:28
AnotherDataill have to check12:29
KnowerrorsHobbsee: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/48477312:29
HobbseeKnowerrors: why are you logged in as root?12:29
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kkathmanjust asking for trouble12:30
Hobbseeand then they expect it to all work without a problem...i dont know...12:30
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DaSkreechHobbsee: Like Windows users :-)12:30
kkathmanexactly - I think that should basically void all help lol12:30
KnowerrorsHobbsee: Im not12:30
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AnotherDatai need kdepim kdemultimedia kdelibs kdegraphics kdegames etc12:31
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HobbseeKnowerrors: really?12:31
revsomeone here knows what this error means? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/639312:31
kkathmanAnotherData: install them if you need them :)12:31
AnotherDatai tried12:31
Knowerrorsdon't even have root enabled12:31
Knowerrorsnice guess though, I know more than that12:32
KnowerrorsHobbsee: for sure12:32
Knowerrorslogged in as user12:32
Hobbseei'd try rm /root/.DCOPserver_ubuntu__0 for a start...12:32
Hobbseethen run dcopserver12:32
KnowerrorsI think that is a sudo generated file12:32
Hobbseeit shouldnt be generated there - it's supposed to be in your home directory...12:33
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Knowerrorssudo pretends youre root right?12:33
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Hobbseegives you root for that command...yes...i think so12:33
Hobbseerev: no clue, sorry12:33
KnowerrorsArrgh: It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /home/flow/.DCOPserver_ubuntu__0 and start dcopserver again.12:33
kkathmanKnowerrors:  try this:  getent group root12:34
Knowerrorsactually, I just checked on my kde files, the update didn't finish, so Im still running breezy kde packs, finishing the d/l right now12:34
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Knowerrorsog from cd12:35
kkathmanok thats good12:35
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Hobbseeie, any dcopserver files in your home dir that you find12:36
kkathmangood point Hobbsee12:36
kkathmanit should regen right?12:36
Hobbseethen let them recreate12:36
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kkathmanHobbsee: there isnt a dcop init I dont think12:36
Knowerrorshmmm, ok, will try that12:37
Hobbseekkathman: what do you mean?12:37
Hobbseeit starts during login, which is where i get error messages sometimes12:37
kkathmansome .kde files and server have an init that you can run to "reinitialize"12:37
kkathmanI dont think dcop does tho12:37
kkathmanso you have to just kill its support and have it touch those on reboot12:38
Hobbseeah ok12:39
Tm_Tkkathman & Hobbsee o/12:39
Hobbseehi Tm_T12:40
kkathmanhowdy Tm_T :)12:40
Hobbseei think so - i know that they do get autocreated when you log in, if they're not there - i dont recall having to touch them12:40
Tm_Thullo and good night, maybe I really try to sleep x.x ->12:41
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masehow do i get hte latest version of libstdc++12:43
Hobbsee!info libstdc++612:44
ubotulibstdc++6: (The GNU Standard C++ Library v3), section base, is important. Version: 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 345 kB, Installed size: 1032 kB12:44
Hobbseemase: just sudo apt-get install libstdc++612:44
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Hobbseeif you get stuck like this again, use the package manager, with a search, or use apt-cache search :)12:44
HobbseeKnowerrors: how'd it go?12:44
masei want the latest version..12:44
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maseamsn depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1-9); however:12:45
mase  Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.0.1-4ubuntu9.12:45
masebecause of this.12:45
masei have .1-4 not .1-912:45
KnowerrorsHobbsee: ok, kdesu kcontrol works now, but admin mode won't work it I launch systemsettings, or kcontrol12:45
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HobbseeKnowerrors: i'm not sure that it ever has - that's where you use the kdesu12:45
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Knowerrorsactually, kcontrol just worked, systemsettings won't work win admin mode12:46
Knowerrorswith admin mode12:47
Hobbseekdesu system settings?12:47
Hobbseenot sure - i never use system settings anyway12:47
Knowerrorsnaw, just plain systemsettings, clicking on admin mode button12:47
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kkathmanKnowerrors: I thought that the first breezy update fixed the admin mode in system settings...did on my system12:47
benlcan someone help me with something simple?12:47
Hobbseebenl: what's your question12:48
Knowerrorsyeah, it system settings seemed buggy the first time I did a kubuntu breezy install, this is my second 5.10 install on the same box12:48
masehey Hobbsee  do you have a good sources.list12:48
kkathmanHobbsee: did you get that newest update to the LInux kernel for breezy12:48
benlIm fairly new to linux in general, but i can't seem to run the make and make install command12:48
benlit doesn't recognize the command in kubuntu12:48
benland im trying to install a usb wireless driver12:48
benlin my fresh install12:48
Knowerrorskkathman: yeah, that breezy update didn't fix it for me12:48
Hobbsee!tell mase about sources12:48
Hobbseekkathman: ah, which was this, and how long ago did it come out?12:49
kkathmanbenl sometimes there isnt a makefile there...look for maybe an .sh file12:49
Hobbseebenl: sudo apt-get install buildessential12:49
Hobbseebenl: sudo apt-get install build-essential12:49
benlyea, there is a makefile there12:49
Hobbseethe second one12:49
Knowerrorskkathman: or did you mean the kubuntu default settings update?12:49
kkathmanahh then do what Hobbsee said then12:49
benlI had my linux friend check it out earlier, hes not used to this distro though12:49
kkathmanKnowerrors: nah I meant the systemsettings admin mode fix12:49
benlhe couldnt get make or make install to work either12:49
benlI tried the root console and the regular shell12:49
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kkathmanHobbsee: came out at least a couple days ago...-10-386 v2712:50
Knowerrorskkathman: what kde package handles that?12:50
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benlmake: command not found12:50
benlthats all that happens12:50
Hobbseebenl: sudo apt-get install build-essential12:50
kkathmanKnowerrors: Im not sure, but I used to not be able to get to Admin mode..but that first adept update to breezy fixed it for me12:50
maseHobbsee, i said a GOOD source list, not a default one12:51
maseand that "create your own" doesnt work12:51
kkathmanHobbsee: its in my adept updater12:51
Knowerrorsmase: try source-o-matic12:51
benlok.. lemme try that12:51
maseKnowerrors, it doesnt work, as i said12:51
Hobbseekkathman: i'm not sure that i did - i dont remember any updates yesterday, and i hadnt booted to breezy in ages before that12:51
Knowerrorshmm, works for me, try removing the country code from the beginning of all the lines12:52
kkathmanmase get the default source list its just fine12:52
Knowerrorsmase: like if youre in us remove the us.*** and leave ***12:52
kkathmanall the entries should just be archive.ubuntu.......12:52
masealright thakns12:53
Hobbseeeasysource works here...12:53
Hobbseefew extra repositories that i've never seen before, but dont want to try anyway12:53
kkathmanI dunno Hobbsee some default ones seem to have the universe disabled on lines 19 and 2012:54
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kkathmanI had maybe 3-5 instances of that recently12:54
Hobbseethat's weird - doesnt seem much wrong with universe12:54
KnowerrorsI broke mine two days ago by typing "sudo rm -R /*" was trying to just remove one directory12:54
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kkathmanthere isnt Hobbsee but I think some source SOMEWHERE has it disabled and a bunch of people got it12:55
Knowerrorsluckily I had my home dir on a seperate partition12:55
kkathmanhow do you accidently type that to remove 1 directory??   why not rm -rf <dir>12:56
kkathmanthat way unless you put in \ you are ok :)12:56
kkathmanwell the other slash actually :)12:57
jahshuacan anyone tell me, whats the major differences between ubuntu and kubuntu12:57
DaSkreechOne more letter12:58
Knowerrorskkathman: I was tired when I typed that12:58
kkathmanahhh Ive been there man :)12:58
Hobbseekkathman: eek!12:58
Knowerrorsit erased everything through etc and dev before I stopped it12:58
Hobbseejahshua: one has gnome, one has kde12:59
kkathmanjahshua: kubuntu has kde ubuntu has gnome12:59
kkathman^5s Hobbsee :)12:59
jahshuathats it?12:59
kkathmanthats it12:59
kkathmanbut thats significant12:59
Knowerrorsare there extra packages needed to get "gtk styles/fonts engine" to use kde style/font in gtk?01:00
jahshuabut i can use gnome with with my kubuntu01:00
masecan someone link me to the .deb of libstdc++6 4.0.2 ..01:00
HobbseeKnowerrors: on breezy, it's installed by default01:00
jahshuaso i dont really see the difference :|01:00
Hobbseejahshua: yes01:00
kkathmanmase use apt-cache search libstdc01:00
KnowerrorsHobbsee: well its not theming them right...01:00
masekkathman, they only go up to 4.0 ... no further01:01
kkathmanHobbsee: in general when you install a new kernel update you have to adept it down then do a dist-upgrade right?01:01
maseand when i do apt-get install libstdc++6 it says its already newest..01:01
KnowerrorsHobbsee: actually, I take that back, firefox is fine, but synaptic isn't01:01
maselies LIES01:01
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masei found it here, but how do i get it01:02
kkathmanmase then you dont need that particular package...maybe the headers?01:02
kkathmanI dunno01:02
kkathmanI dont compile all that much, but when I do, I dont seem to have any probs :)01:03
jahshuaand what the major differences with Debian and Ubuntu/Kubuntu ?01:03
Hobbseekkathman: i dont use adept, but update, dist-upgrade seems to work01:03
kkathmanjahshua: lots of difference there01:03
kkathmanjahshua: two different distributions01:03
maseamsn depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1-9); however:01:03
mase  Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.0.1-4ubuntu9.01:03
masefucking thing01:03
Knowerrorsjahshua: ubuntu has more up to date packages, and uses sudo by default alot01:03
kkathmanmase please watch the language01:03
HobbseeKnowerrors: not sure how to force it - seems to be a case of experimentation01:04
sampanubuntu also has friendly/helpful support, while debian is "blessed" with many rude people ;x01:04
Knowerrorsjahshua: but its based on Debian, and syncs with Debian from time to time01:04
Hobbseemase: language01:04
Hobbseedarned lag...01:04
kkathmanKnowerrors: uhmm... roughly but there's no ties to it really, except the base is similar01:04
Knowerrorsjahshua: Debian is far more stable and bug free though, but less user friendsly01:04
Knowerrorsdepending on which version of Debian01:05
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Knowerrorsjahshua: if you want a good version of Debian to compare to ubuntu, try GenieOS, it has a very easy installer, better than ubuntus, and gives you all the media plugins/condecs installed01:06
Knowerrorsbut its based on Sarge, so all the programs are older, though very stable01:06
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Yonok now i did everything01:07
jahshuathank you01:07
masewill it have the latest fucking version of libstdc++6 ?01:07
maseif it will im already downloading it01:07
Hobbseemase, you've been warned about language already01:07
Yoncan sum 1 help me with setting up the net, under scrip01:07
friskolenI thought i was installing flash with aptitude install flash, but its not working. Any sugestions?01:08
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kkathmanIn my opinion, ubuntu is very stable but too many people play too much with their stuff and break things01:09
Hobbseewell that made that easy...01:09
YonDaSkreech u here?01:09
sampankkathman  i dunno - having non-function IME is really, well, rather sad for a distro that touts itself as highly international01:09
bccsi'm trying to update kubuntu, so i can use the lastest version of firefox, but i cant make it work.01:09
sampanbroken SCIM is just ... sad01:09
kkathmansampan: agree01:09
Yonhow do i use a windows modem to dialup in linux01:10
kkathmanbccs you dont need to update kubuntu to get the latest firefox01:10
sampani suspect it's a clear casualty of the too-fast 6 month release schedule01:10
bccsyou mean, using Adept?01:10
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Yoncan any1 help me plz?01:11
bccsI commanded "Fetch Updates", and it says there's nothing to do. Still, my firefox version is
KnowerrorsYon: use kppp01:12
Hobbsee!tell bccs about firefox1.501:12
bccscan someone help me with this one?01:12
Yoni am01:12
KnowerrorsYon: but not with a winmodem01:12
jahshuahello, i have just put in a LiteOn cd burner which uses usb but its not coming up on my desktop .. i want to use it to burn images.. can anyone tell me what i need t do ?01:12
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Hobbseebccs: see your private message01:12
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bccssorry. tks!01:12
Yoni only have a winmodem01:12
Hobbseeno problems01:12
Yoni dail up and all01:12
KnowerrorsYon: go buy a cheap external serial modem, that will work right away, I got one for $10 used01:13
Yonbut the authentication i get problems01:13
Yonit is a serial modem01:13
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KnowerrorsYon: edit /etc/ppp/options file01:13
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Knowerrorsand put a # in front of the auth line01:14
friskolenMy doughter says that she doesnt like this Kubuntu... becauce her daddy cant give her flash. Is it difficult?01:14
Yonthe one that just says auth01:15
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Yoni make it #auth01:15
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Hobbseefriskolen: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla01:15
Yonand then i will be able to conect01:15
KnowerrorsYon: right01:15
Yonkk thx alot Man!!!!01:15
YonB RVB01:16
benlhey hobbs, That did something but I get a new error now when I run make:  *** missing seperator. Stop.01:16
benlwhat dooes that mean?01:16
crimsunHobbsee: please recommend flashplugin-nonfree01:16
jahshuacan anyone help?01:16
crimsun(instead of flashplayer-mozilla, as this package is illegal to distribute)01:17
Hobbseecrimsun: ah, i see01:17
jahshuahello, i have just put in a LiteOn cd burner which uses usb but its not coming up on my desktop .. i want to use it to burn images.. can anyone tell me what i need to do ?01:17
Knowerrorscrimsun: is there a difference in function?01:17
Hobbseecrimsun: why is it in the repositories at all then?  or is it in universe?01:17
friskolen<Hobbsee>It says that it cant fint the packege01:17
crimsunKnowerrors: no, but we'll be removing flashplayer-mozilla because it violates Macromedia's EULA01:17
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crimsunHobbsee: it was mistakenly imported along with the rest of debian-marillat01:18
Hobbseeah ok01:18
Hobbseefair enough01:18
kkathmancrimsun: now that mozilla has gone OSS why would it be illegal?01:18
crimsunkkathman: the plugin, not Mozilla.01:19
kkathmanand all flashplayers, even from Macromedia are public domain01:19
crimsunno, that's absolutely untrue.01:19
kkathmanall Macromedia Flash players are public domain now01:19
kkathmanno that IS true I just read it in an email from Macromedia the other day01:19
crimsunMacromedia's license explicitly forbids anyone from distributing binary versions of Flash.01:19
kkathmanIm on their list01:19
kkathmanyes flash, but NOT the player01:20
kkathmanyou can download it free from Macromedia itself...or from Downloads.com01:20
crimsunthe player is under the same license.01:20
kkathmanno it isnt01:20
friskolenDo we have to install mozilla first?01:20
kkathmanplease double check your sources01:20
crimsunkkathman: I beg to differ, read the license in the flash plugin.01:20
jahshuai want to burn an image onto cd with my cd burner, can anyone help me out? the burner is plugged into my usb port but its not showing up on the desktop :(01:20
kkathmanthis is from Macromedia themselves01:20
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kkathmannew policy I think of recent times01:21
crimsunkkathman: it doesn't matter what they say if they don't alter the license.01:21
Knowerrorscrimsun: why does flashplugin-nonfree want a bunch of ruby packs installed?01:21
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crimsunKnowerrors: that's what it uses to download it, because it's currently the only legal way that we can get the plugin.01:21
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crimsunkkathman: until they commit the license change to the actual redistributable package itself, we can do nothing more.01:22
kkathmanits a little like saying that linux is against the law too lol01:22
tadpoleOMFG!!!!! THANK U!!!!01:22
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friskolenDo you say that I cant get flash for kubuntu?01:22
benlhobbs can ya tell me why it would say *** missing seperator. when I try to run a makefile?01:22
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Hobbseefriskolen: i think you can - sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree01:23
kkathmancrimsun: think about it... if the mozilla-flash is illegal, certainly ANY player will be, because you have to have the engine to play the flash...so like it or not, its touchy ground :)01:23
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kkathmansince Macromedia owns the flash technology, any solution would be illegal and/or a violation of copyright/patent01:24
kkathmanso your 'freeplayer" is just as illegal01:24
jahshuaplease anyone ?01:24
benlHobbsee: Sorry, *** missing seperator.  Ring a bell?01:24
KnowerrorsYon: youre welcome :)01:24
crimsunkkathman: err, it's not illegal01:24
kkathmanbenl:  you might want to use Hobbsee as a full name, not just "hobs" because you have to have the full name to have it highlighted on her screen01:25
kkathmancrimsun: I would be very careful01:25
benlya, i just figured that out when he said so :)01:25
kkathmanyou arent legal counsel01:25
crimsunkkathman: redistribution of the binary plugin on archive.ubuntu.com is very illegal01:25
jahshuaHobbsee: can you help me with cd burning :p01:25
friskolencant fint this nonfree...01:25
Hobbseejahshua: had to scroll up and find the question :) - i'd say that you'd be using k3b01:25
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Hobbsee!info flashplugin-nonfree01:25
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB01:25
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kkathmancrimsun: then you should have it removed from the repos01:25
KnowerrorsHobbsee: that thing about kppp should be a somewhere on the homepage, its very frustrating to find the needed help for dialup users01:26
Hobbseefriskolen: make sure you have multiverse01:26
nasasi just did dist-upgrade and accepted everything... im fine right? lolol01:26
kkathmanwhy hasnt it been if this is a major issue?01:26
crimsunkkathman: we've already asked for it to be removed.01:26
kkathmanand it hasnt?01:26
Yonknowerrors, u know its taken me like 7 hours, 4 ppl, and IT WAS SO SIMPLE!!!01:26
crimsunof course not, we don't touch a frozen distro.01:26
Hobbseebenl: sorry, i'ts not ringing a bell01:26
Hobbseecrimsun: then it's in dapper why?01:26
crimsunbecause our ftp admin is on holiday?01:26
kkathmanROFL even if it is blatently "illegal" ???01:26
jahshuaHobbsee: thanks a million!01:26
fridgecan anyone tell me what package gtk-config is in?01:26
crimsunjames has his schedule, and we do well not to aggravate him.01:27
friskolenHobbsee: What is multiverse?01:27
Hobbseehehehe - surely someone else has the password for it?01:27
Hobbsee!tell friskolen about multiverse01:27
KnowerrorsYon: yeah, sucks to be a dialup user in Linux, few people know or care about getting internet working that way, most people are on broadband01:27
crimsunHobbsee: no, it's the way our infrastructure is set up. Only the ftp admin has complete control over the archive.01:27
Hobbseeah ok01:27
KnowerrorsYon: I just left my computer on for 10+ hours downloading updates, and still have about 3 hours to go01:28
benlHobbsee: When I try to run the "make" command after running what you told me, I get makefile:9: *** missing seperator.01:28
Yonknowerrors ye i know wat u mean! now i need to get nvidia drivers working, is it as simple01:28
YonKnowerrors: wat the hell r u trying to do!!!01:28
benlHobbsee: Its doing it for every make file i try01:28
Hobbseecrimsun: want to help with the make error?  you're far better at this than i am...01:28
crimsunHobbsee: I lack context01:28
KnowerrorsYon: no cusswords in the chat!01:29
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736801:29
Hobbseecrimsun: just installed build-essentials, got rid of those errors - not sure what he's compiling01:29
naliothbenl: sounds like dodgy code to me01:29
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ubotuit has been said that ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1001:29
fridgeIs there a predominant kde based newsreader?01:29
Knowerrorscrimsun: do you do anything related to the kubuntu website, or know who does?01:30
kkathmanfridge: knode, but I'd use pan if I were you01:30
crimsunKnowerrors: the Web site? no. jon riddell does, though.01:30
crimsunbenl: context?01:30
benlnalioth: every program I try does it..  Its wierd, At first I couldn't get kubundu to recognize make or make install, but Hobbsee told me to runsudo apt-get install build-essential and thats what happens now01:30
YonKnowerrors: my friend is trying to get linux to work, he cant get his boot to work, he installs linux then he gets Error with the grub, do u have any idea01:31
HobbseeYon: which grub error?  there are many of them01:31
benlcrimsun: I'm trying to compile any program, but I cannot get make or make install to run at all, in the root or shell consoles..01:31
crimsunbenl: pastebin the entire thing, i.e., the command you used to get what error.01:31
benlcrimsun: Only command im using is make01:31
crimsunbenl: pastebin the entire thing.01:31
KnowerrorsYon: which linux, ubuntu?01:31
crimsunI need to see all of stdout and stderr01:32
friskolenWhat is multiverse?01:32
YonKnowerrors: 17 and 21 r the more common01:32
YonKnowerrors:  its kutuntu01:32
benlcrimsun: Makefile:9: *** missing separator.  Stop.01:32
benlcrimsun: I used to get bash: asdf: command not found01:33
crimsunbenl: not here, on pastebin.01:33
crimsunbenl: and pastebin the Makefile(s), too.01:33
KnowerrorsYon: so he gets the error after he ejects the install cd and reboots?01:33
nekostarhappy new years guys! im gonna be in san fransiscoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo01:34
benlcrimsun: Can ya tell me how to do that?01:34
benlcrimsun: Just copy the text in the fileE?01:34
Knowerrorscrimsun: is jon riddell ever on here, maybe as a different screen name?01:34
YonKnowerrors: after it installs he unplugs the cd tom and it stops working01:34
naliothbenl: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall build-essential"01:34
crimsunbenl: yep01:34
crimsunKnowerrors: Riddell01:35
KnowerrorsYon: did he try doing the install over again?01:35
YonKnowerrors:  about 4 times01:35
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KnowerrorsRiddell: I have a suggestion for the website if youre listening01:35
KnowerrorsYon: does he have windows installed also?01:36
Yonhe can get into linux 100%, but as he unplugs his cdrom, he gets grub error 1701:36
Yonyes he does have windows01:36
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KnowerrorsYon: unplugs? you mean ejects the install cd? or is this an external cdrom drive?01:36
HobbseeKnowerrors: he'll read it, hours later when he awakes, if you have his name in front of whatever you're saying01:36
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benlSRCS=vnode_if.h firmwareagent.c01:37
KnowerrorsRiddell: suggestion for the kubuntu website, put a notice up for dialup modem users that they need to edit their /etc/ppp/options file to comment out auth01:37
benlinstall -o root -g wheel -m 444 firmware.h /usr/include/sys01:38
benlinstall -o root -g wheel -m 444 firmware.h /usr/src/sys/sys01:38
benl.include <bsd.kmod.mk>01:38
benlcrimsun: thats the makefile01:38
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crimsunargh, you were supposed to pastebin that.01:38
benlben@ubuntu:~/Downloads/firmwareagent-0.2$ dir01:38
benlexport_syms  firmwareagent.c  firmware.h  LICENSE  Makefile01:38
benlben@ubuntu:~/Downloads/firmwareagent-0.2$ make01:38
benlMakefile:9: *** missing separator.  Stop.01:38
benlcrimsun: oh01:38
KnowerrorsRiddell: this is very hard to find help on for dialup internet users, and makes it impossible for them to get online with kubuntu01:38
benli don't know how to do that ;p01:38
YonKnowerrors: he unplugs the ide cable from the comp01:38
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:38
YonKnowerrors: he has too lil power cables01:38
benlI am such a nub, i can't figure this out :(01:39
KnowerrorsYon: why does he unplug it?  does it work if it stays pluggin in?01:39
benlsorry guys, maybe im not suited for linux :(01:40
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YonKnowerrors: yes it does work, but like i said he cant have it like that, he doesnt have enought power cables for all his stuff, so he has to unplug it so thathe can use all his other HDD's01:41
crimsunbenl: just copy and paste it using the mouse onto the pastebin Web site01:43
crimsunbenl: then tell me the url01:43
benlohhhh pastebin is a web site01:43
Hobbseebenl: hehe - if it starts with http:// it usually is!01:44
KnowerrorsYon, thats beyond me... does he not need the cdrom drive now that kubuntu is installed?  if so maybe editing the fstab entry for the cdrom would help01:45
Knowerrorsas in comment it out01:45
benli didnt see the http:// ;p01:45
Knowerrorsbenl: click on this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:45
Yon Knowerrors i dont think it has anything to do with linux its the whole boot record thing01:45
Yonwat do u type to get back into KDE from console01:46
Lacertayon: kdm01:46
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jahshuaHobbsee: if my cd burner which is plugged into my usb port isnt showing up on my desktop, how do i safely remove it ?01:47
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benlcrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/639801:47
benlthats the makefile im trying to run01:47
Knowerrorsyon cntrl alt backspace is easiest way01:47
Hobbseejahshua: is it mounted?  i would have thought you could just pull it out...01:47
jahshuawell k3b found it yes01:47
jahshuabut i thought i had to do something before i removed it01:47
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LacertaYon: or [Alt]  + F7 is kdm is already running01:48
Yonconsole, as in like a dos type of thing....01:48
Knowerrorscntrl+alt+bckspc will restart x and kde01:49
Yonok thx01:49
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Knowerrorsuse that if kde ever freezes01:49
jahshuaHobbsee :)01:50
Knowerrorscrimsun: does the "SWF (Macromedia Flash) player" package actually play shockwave on linux? If not, whats the point in having it, I assume you need some Wine component to make it work?01:50
crimsunKnowerrors: Flash != Shockwave01:51
naliothshockwave is not available (yet) on linux01:51
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crimsunbenl: that Makefile is broken01:54
Yondo u think that if linux keeps freezing its coz there is no graphics drivers installed?01:54
Knowerrorsnalioth: right, Ive heard that, so why are there shockwave packages for linux in the repos?01:55
naliothKnowerrors: there are?01:55
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Knowerrorsnalioth: yup01:55
Knowerrorsnalioth: I think Im right, you need parts of Wine for it to work01:55
Knowerrorssome w98 file01:55
benlcrimsun: really...   It is a package.. wierd... prism54 driver makefile01:55
KnowerrorsYon: when is it freezing?01:56
crimsundoes the included prism54 driver not work?01:56
Lacertahow do i install .rpm files?01:57
benlI can't get it to work.. or maybe im doing something wrong01:58
benlIts a usb prism5401:58
benli didn't know if that was something that was causing a problem01:58
benlwg111 netgear01:58
YonKnowerrors: is a lil random. but its wen he is in the desktop01:58
benlwhat would be the commands too activate it?  Its not detecting by default for sure..01:59
KnowerrorsYon: is it a complete lock up, or just temporary?01:59
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YonKnowerrors:  the mouse can move but nothing else works, and it doesnt unfreez02:03
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chxever heard of a music format called 'ape'? found nothing in (m)ultiverse repos02:04
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Yoni just dled x chat(a irc client) but now i have no idea how to install02:05
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sampanyon, kubuntu has x-chat already installed02:05
sampankonversation (another irc client) too02:05
KnowerrorsYon: Konversation is best02:05
Knowerrorsalso comes with kubuntu02:06
sampanand, to boot, irssi (text-only irc client) is there as well02:06
YonKnowerrors:  ok, kewl i will get use to this one, but if i dl a program how do i install it?02:06
KnowerrorsYon: what are the specs of his computer? cpu speed and memory?02:06
sampanyon, usually you should use adept or apt-get to install stuff02:06
KnowerrorsYon: to get most new programs, use adept02:06
YonKnowerrors: its amd64, he got the install for the 64bit linux and got like 1gig ram02:07
KnowerrorsI use synaptic, which is much nicer than adept, and just as easy02:07
KnowerrorsYon: thats plenty of juice to run kde... any specific programs hes using when it freezes?02:07
crimsunchx: install wine, then use it to install the Windows Monkeys Audio executable02:08
KnowerrorsYon: you have to install synaptic with adept, then use it to find any(most) software youd ever need, edit your repository list to open up the big selection02:09
YonKnowerrors: no, just plain linux we think that its coz his graphics card isnt installed02:10
Knowerrorsdid you read the info about nvidia?02:11
Yonnot reli02:12
Hobbseesampan: kubuntu doesnt install xchat by default...02:14
sampanoh lol ... i guess mine was there from ubuntu then02:14
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Hobbseehehe yeah02:14
Hobbseeor xubuntu02:14
Hobbseebut kubuntu definetly doesnt have it02:15
sampanahhh ... still, downloading and installing it from source/rpm/even .deb is more hassle than just using the repos02:15
Yoni cant find synaptics!! wtf?02:15
sampanyon, have you enabled the repositories?02:15
Hobbsee!info synaptics02:16
Hobbseeyou were looking for synaptic?02:16
ubotusynaptic is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto02:16
KnowerrorsYon: go to Adept and enable all the repositories02:16
Knowerrorsthen, update02:16
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Knowerrorsthen you can start installing new things02:17
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kub-01[A] is kdevelop a collection of development files to be used with an IDE, or is it an IDE itself?02:17
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KnowerrorsYon: Synaptic doesn't come with Kubuntu by default, you have to get it through Adept, or sudo apt-get install synaptic at the command line02:18
Hobbseewith firefox 1.5 (i think this occured in 1.0.7 as well), how do you get it to open in full screen mode?  I'm running kde3.502:18
Yonkk im updateing now, thats right?02:19
Hobbseeopen in full screen mode?02:20
KnowerrorsYon: yeah, as long as you enabled the repositories first02:20
Hobbseeactually, i mean maximised, sorry02:20
chx Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed02:21
chxis there a way to fix this?02:21
chxseems like small difference.02:21
Hobbseechx: is this for amsn?02:21
Yonyea yea i did02:21
KnowerrorsHobbsee: oh, that Im not sure, mine doesn't have that problem, you should just maximize, close it, then when you relaunch its maximized02:22
HobbseeKnowerrors: i wish - it always opens not-maximised again...02:22
chxHobbsee: libmac2 , monkeys-audio02:23
Hobbseeah ok02:23
sampani have persistent 'bugs' with firefox too. if i tell it to open certain mime type files with external programs and hit the "always do this action", it saves the info, but next time i click on that file type, it doesn't do what i told it to do.  makes no sense.02:24
chxHobbsee: is it a very bad idea to download the debs and change the dependency...?02:24
Hobbseegot no idea - but it could well kill off your system02:24
chxHobbsee: these packages are not for Ubuntu and so I think they may have just written something there...02:24
Hobbseechanging the dependancy, or compiling it, sounds like a fairly good idea02:25
Hobbseeyeah, in debian/control02:25
chxyep that's what I thought02:25
KnowerrorsHobbsee: did you check window specific settings to see if FF has some set?02:26
HobbseeKnowerrors: ah, that i did not - in about:config, or somewhere else?02:27
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Knowerrorsjust right click on the window title bar, go to "configure window settings"02:28
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Knowerrorsthen window specific settings02:28
joseSoy Nuevo en esto02:29
josealguien me puede ayudar02:29
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kub-01de donde eres?02:30
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Knowerrorsjose: #ubuntu-es if you're not bilingual, will get more help there maybe02:30
chxHobbsee: after I did ar x foo.deb , untarred control.tar.gz , retarred ... how do I continue to rebuild the .deb ?02:32
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:32
Hobbseechx: you couldnt get the source?02:33
chxHobbsee: I can but I do not have the whole C++ build environment installed (and do not really wish to get it)02:33
Hobbseeah ok02:33
chxI just need to build a .deb from control.tar.gz data.tar.gz and debian-binary02:33
Hobbseei'd imagine you'd have to rebuilt the opposite way you took it all apart...but i've only tried with source before02:34
joseSoy nuevo en eso02:34
Yonlol im still dling!02:34
Hobbseeor using debuild...02:34
joseAlguien que quiera ayudarme02:34
joseque hable espaol02:34
Knowerrorsjose #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es02:34
KnowerrorsEs posible que hay mas genete hablas espanol en los dos irc's02:36
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josecomo llamo las aplicaciones Instaladas02:38
chxHobbsee: for the archives, the answer is dpkg -b02:39
Hobbseeah ok, yep02:40
KnowerrorsJose: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda02:40
Yonok now i have installed sysopsis, now how do i use it?02:42
joseTengo Kubuntu 5.102:42
joselo he actualizado02:42
joselo mas posible02:42
josepero los paquetes des debian02:43
joseno aparecen02:43
josepor eso02:43
joseEstoy pensando instalar SUSE02:43
josePero debian me gusta mas02:43
KnowerrorsYon: you mean synaptic? ;)02:44
Yonyea u know wat i mean02:45
KnowerrorsClose Adept, then launch synaptic under K>system menu02:45
KnowerrorsYon: then either browse through the categories, or search for what you want, its pretty easy... I recommend first thing going to settings>preferences>appearance and click show package properties in main window02:47
Yon i cant find preferences02:48
Yonwat settings r u talking about the one next to the "start bar"?02:48
chxHobbsee: working!02:49
Hobbseechx: yay!02:49
chxHobbsee: do you think it worths a post in ubuntuforums "how to install monkey audio w/o recompile"? it's quite a bit of hassle02:49
KnowerrorsYon: after youve launced Synaptic, go to settings02:50
Hobbseeyeah, i'd say so02:50
KnowerrorsYon: settings in synaptic menubar02:50
chxbut it was well worth it02:50
chxnext time, I'll be better in dpkg -b and then it'll be easier02:51
chxmuch, much easier02:51
Yonsorry, where do u launch sysnoptics?02:51
Hobbseedefinetly - so you untarred, changed the control file, retarred, dpkg -b foo.deb?02:51
Yoni was able to launch kynoptics, i installed it after i install synopitcs02:51
KnowerrorsYon: K menu(bottom right hand corner) , then settings, then synaptic02:52
Knowerrorsdont use kynaptic, it sucks worse than kpackage02:52
KnowerrorsYon: K menu(bottom right hand corner) , then system, then synaptic02:53
KnowerrorsYon: K menu(bottom left hand corner) , then settings, then synaptic02:53
Knowerrorsdang Im low on blood sugar, need brain food, brb02:54
Yondo u mean its not there02:55
Yonlet me cheak the installs02:55
Yoni found kynopics there were u told me to look02:56
Yonbut synoptics isnt there02:56
Yonand its installed02:56
chxHobbsee: not tar , ar02:56
HobbseeYon: alt+f2, kappfinder - run it, and it should find synaptic, and add it to your kmenu02:57
Hobbseechx: ar?02:57
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Knowerrorshmm, then just Kmenu>run>synaptic02:57
chxHobbsee: mkdir tmpdir , ar x ../foo.deb , mkdir DEBIAN , cd DEBIAN, tar xzf ../control.tar.gz , change control, cd .. , tar xzf data.control.gz , rm *gz , dpkg -b . ../foo.deb02:58
Hobbseeah ok02:58
KnowerrorsHobbsee: is kappfinder installed in a fresh kubuntu?02:58
chxHobbsee: mkdir tmpdir , cd tmpdir, ar x ../foo.deb , mkdir DEBIAN , cd DEBIAN, tar xzf ../control.tar.gz , change control, cd .. , tar xzf data.tar.gz , rm *gz , dpkg -b . ../foo.deb02:58
HobbseeKnowerrors: i think so02:58
KnowerrorsI had to add it02:58
Hobbseenot sure then - but i thought it was installed by default02:59
Hobbsee!info kappfinder02:59
ubotukappfinder: (non-KDE application finder for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 251 kB, Installed size: 1312 kB02:59
Yonits not finding it in kappfinder02:59
KnowerrorsYon: you can manually add synapic to the Kmenu by right clickin on the K and doin menu editor02:59
Hobbseeah ok03:00
KnowerrorsYon:  Kmenu>run>synaptic , does that work?03:00
Yonbru i just realized i installed synopsis03:02
Yoni cant find synaptic03:02
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Yonok im installing the properthing now03:02
Yonthat was stupid03:02
batitombodoes ne1 knows if installing an linux-image can conflict with nvida video drivers03:03
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chxHobbsee: better way. dpkg-deb -x foo.deb tmpdir ; dpkg-deb --control foo.deb tmpdir/DEBIAN ; nano tmpdir/DEBIAN/control ; dpkg -b tmpdir hacked.deb03:08
Hobbseeyep, nice03:08
chxHobbsee: now. this is good stuff. I want to share. ubuntuforum? wiki?03:09
Hobbseehowto on ubuntu forum, i'd say03:09
chxHobbsee: howto? could you please elaborate?03:10
Hobbseemake a how to in the howto sections of ubuntuforums.org03:10
chxhttp://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=100 Ah you mean here!03:12
Hobbseeyeah, that's it03:13
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cobolfingazwhat is the correct decoder to install to be able to play mp3s using amarok?03:16
Glin|JolWinamp 5.11 paused03:17
ubotuI guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:17
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chxHobbsee: posted.03:22
chxHobbsee: I included ample disclaimers , like 'Likely apt will awake Godzilla to eat you.' -- I know it's dangerous to meddle with control. But, then again, I am linuxing longer than Debian exists...03:24
Hobbseehehe true03:24
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chxthis guy _really_ calls his blog "So sue me" ? Hilarious.03:25
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ChaniI have a friend that's using kubuntu, but doesn't have net access. I just brought her a hard drive full of anime, and she can't watch it- kaffeine plays the sound but no video. I assume I need some sort of codecs, but... how do I get the .deb's from my comp so that I can bring them to her? I have kubuntu installed here but don't use it much03:28
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josealquien que me pueda ayudar03:31
josemira men03:32
joseme puedes hechar una mano03:32
josesoy nuevo03:32
joseen esto03:32
josey me esta comiendo03:32
mfdutracual su problema?03:32
joseMira tengo Kubuntu03:32
joseY no puedo Instalar los Tar gz03:33
chxChani: likely the deb is in /var/cache/apt/archives03:33
chxChani: you will likely need win32codecs03:33
josetienen que ser paquetes debian03:33
mfdutrahmm .tar.gz no es para instalar03:33
Chanichx: thanks, someone else just told me the same thing :)03:33
mfdutrason archivos compactados03:33
mfdutracomo .zip03:33
joseEntonces como los instalos03:33
joseyo los desempaqueto03:33
josepero despues no me los reconoce03:34
joseUso ALien03:34
mfdutrapueden ser un software como pueden tambien ser un paquete de fotos03:34
josey no lo puede generar03:34
joseNo son programas empaquetados03:34
mfdutrausted solo puede usar alien se su .tar.gz sea un paquete slackware03:34
joseDescargue el FlashPlayer03:34
mfdutrainstall-flash....tar.gz ?03:34
josecomo es que se instala03:35
joseNo se puede hablar en Privado03:35
mfdutrael archivo es instal-flash...gz ?03:35
mfdutraok. haga esto:03:35
mfdutratar xzvf install-flash..tar.gz03:35
mfdutrausted va a ver un directorio llamado install-flash...algo.asi03:36
josecomo Root03:36
josesupongo todo eso03:36
mfdutrasi, mejor03:36
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joselo desempaqueto03:37
joseque hago03:38
mfdutravio el directorio?03:38
joseEsta en Home03:38
mfdutraahora move el contenido de ese directorio para /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins03:39
mfdutrano move el directorio, solamente los archivos03:39
Yonhow do u share the internet from linux to linux03:39
kinfoi don't understand.03:39
mfdutrade modo que se queden exactamente en el directorio plugins03:40
mfdutraYon, apt-get install ipmasq03:40
Yoncan i get it from synoptics?03:41
mfdutraI think so03:41
mfdutrado you already have a home network set up?03:41
Yonkk thx, is it hard to use it?03:41
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:41
Yonwell, it worked from win to linux03:41
Yonso we can ping eachother03:41
mfdutraand linux-linux? is it working?03:42
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Yoni dont know03:44
Yongonna try now03:44
Yonhe keeps crashing03:44
mfdutrawhat crashes?03:44
geneo93ubuntu has some network issues03:44
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Yonhis linux crashes he is having sum problems03:45
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mfdutrawhen does it crash and why?03:45
Yonye i can ping him03:45
mfdutratry to identify the problem03:45
mfdutrathat's good03:45
Yonwell we think its the graphic03:45
mfdutrahmm yes03:46
Knowerrorsnalioth: why if my username is registered, does it not let me log back on if my internet connection is interupted?03:46
Yonthe screen starts corupting then everything freezes03:46
mfdutrawhat kind of connection have you got?03:46
mfdutrait must be vga config03:46
chxnight all03:46
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mfdutraok. I suppose you're connected through it, aren't you?03:46
Yonbut we also having lots of trupuble installing the drivers03:46
naliothKnowerrors: your 'ghost' still rules the roost /msg nickserv help ghost03:47
Yonwe r conected thru a hub, i have the net and i wasnt to share it to him03:47
mfdutrahow are you connected to the internet right now?03:47
Yoni have a 56k line to my pc03:47
Yonthen im conected to the hub and so is he03:48
mfdutralogged as root, type "route -n"03:48
Yonwhere? in run?03:48
Yonor console?03:48
Yonme or him?03:48
mfdutralook at the last line03:48
mfdutraping the gateway03:48
mfdutrathe second column of the last line03:49
Yonok, i get a reply03:49
mfdutrado it on the other machine03:49
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mfdutraif you get a reply, it's fone03:50
Yonsorry, i lost u there03:50
Yonwat do u mean by fone?03:50
mfdutrano no no03:50
mfdutrafone -> done03:50
mfdutraif you get a reply, it's Done03:51
Yonok now the program i just got, the ipmasq i think there was a problem installing it03:52
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Yonok i dont know where to find it03:53
mfdutrajust type ipmasq03:53
mfdutrathere should be that command now03:53
Yonwell i typed it in console and nothing happend03:53
mfdutrathat's cool :)03:53
mfdutraping again03:53
mfdutrait should work03:53
mfdutraping from the other machine03:54
Yonthe other guy has me set as his gateway... is that right03:54
mfdutrayes it is03:54
mfdutrathis is a must03:54
Yonshould the internet on his pc work?03:54
Yonits not working03:54
Yonhe doesnt have internet03:54
mfdutradid you ping the gateway?03:55
mfdutrathe same IP you got a reply?03:55
Yonok wats wierd is my gateway is
mfdutrait's ok for me03:56
Yonthats the net ip right03:56
mfdutrathat's a good IP of the internet03:56
mfdutranothing wrong03:56
mfdutratype: iptables -t nat -nL03:56
Yonok he can ping the internet03:56
mfdutracan he?03:57
Yonbut he cant surf03:57
mfdutraso ipmasq worked03:57
mfdutracalm :)03:57
mfdutrasecond step03:57
mfdutralet's do the dns stuff03:57
mfdutracheck your /etc/resolv.conf03:57
mfdutraboth resolv.conf must be similar03:58
Yonok i have a few names he has 103:58
Yonservernames im talking about03:59
mfdutralet them equal03:59
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Yon#kppp temp entry <-- does he need to add that04:01
mfdutrathis is a comment04:01
Yonok, thought so04:01
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Yonok so is that it?04:01
Yonhe can surf now04:02
Yonthx alot man!!!04:02
mfdutrayou owe a beer04:02
mfdutrayou owe me a beer04:02
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mfdutraipmasq is not in fact a program04:03
Yonwat is it?04:03
mfdutrait's just a script that sets some firewall rules to make things work04:03
dark|bluehmm, when trying to add a new splash screen, isnt it supposed to see the theme.rc file?04:03
Yonoh ok, thats kewl, i have a lots to learn04:04
Yonlinux seems so hectic04:04
Yonkills windows04:04
mfdutrait's not actually necessary, but it helps a lot04:04
mfdutrayes, they're uncomparable :)04:04
Drakenthanks mfdutra  :D04:04
Yonlol, and thats the guy we were connecting04:05
mfdutraoh welcome04:05
mfdutrawhere are you guys from?04:05
Drakennow i got to work out why my linux freezes at random and stuff ;/04:05
Yonsouth afrka04:05
Drakensouth africa04:05
mfdutraohhh great!!04:05
Yonsouth *africa04:05
mfdutraI'm from Brazil04:05
Yonomg, thats hectic04:06
mfdutra.za is the Ubuntu land04:06
ubotuYon: What?04:06
Drakenya we know mfdutra  :p04:06
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mfdutraDraken, what hardware do you have?04:08
mfdutracpu, memory and vga04:08
KnowerrorsDraken: try updating all your kde base packages and see if that fixes the freezing04:09
KnowerrorsAnybody here using Epson printer?  Im trying to get Epson Inkjet untilities to work04:12
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Drakenhow i do that04:13
arafatKnowerrors: yep...only got it to work under mandrake 10.1 so far...:-)04:13
jahshua--hey can anyone help me out to find out how much RAM i have ?04:13
jahshua--i dont know the command04:13
arafatcat  /proc/meminfo04:14
arafatjahshua--: or just type top...you'll see your memory in the upper left04:14
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Yondraken hyst crashed04:15
jahshua--so how much is MemTotal:       255484 kB  in mb04:16
arafatca. 256 mb04:16
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KnowerrorsDraken: go to Adept, or Synaptic if you have it installed, and if youve already updated, search for kde, then mark the kde packages and apply04:16
joseHey papa04:16
KnowerrorsYon, tell Draken what I said04:17
Yonhe asked which update synoptics is in04:17
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Yoncos he doesnt have alot of time before he crashes04:17
josealguien habla espaol04:17
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ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:18
KnowerrorsYon: kdebase bin and data04:18
Knowerrorsand also kubuntu desktop settings, updating those may help04:18
Knowerrorsupgrading I mean04:18
Yonr they big?04:19
Yonlol, shame it just crashed again, he was in for like 2 mins04:19
Knowerrors6 megs04:19
Yoncan he do it in console, it doesnt crash in console04:19
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mfdutraYon, everything freezes or he just loses the graphic display?04:20
Knowerrorssure, sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin kdebase-data kubuntu-default-settings04:21
Yonthe graphics start to corupt then he freezes but he can move the mouse, nothing else responds, wen he is in console it doesnt freez....i think04:21
mfdutraI'm quite sure it's not a kde issue04:21
KnowerrorsYon: hes using nvidia right?04:21
mfdutrawhat vga does he have?04:21
YonKnowerrors: yip04:22
mfdutraedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:23
Yonits a gforce 6600 gt04:23
mfdutraedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for "Section Device"04:23
Yonok he is in04:23
mfdutraSection "Device"04:24
mfdutracheck the line Driver04:24
mfdutratell me04:24
Yonit says nv04:24
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mfdutrait's right04:24
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mfdutrais the screen resolution good?04:24
Knowerrorsarafat: I used epson inkjet utiltiy on ubuntu in the past, now when I launch it I get "The executable escputil cannot be found in your PATH environment variable. Make sure gimp-print is installed and that escputil is in your PATH." any ideas04:24
arafatmfdutra: why not replace nv by nvidia?04:25
Yonwell, it doesnt go to as high resoloutions as it did in windows04:25
mfdutrait's nice, but he should have the driver compiled04:25
mfdutrais that vga card very new?04:25
Yoncan he update kde in console04:25
Yonyes pretty new04:26
mfdutraI mean the model, is it new?04:26
mfdutramaybe the Xorg driver for that vga card is not good yet04:26
KnowerrorsYon: updating kde probably won't help this problem, though he should update it soon anyway04:26
mfdutrathat often happens with new cards04:26
arafatKnowerrors: i've never tried epson inkjet untility on kubuntu...mandrake set it up automatically...04:26
KnowerrorsI think I didn't install it completely, trying again04:26
Yonok so wat should he do04:26
Yonhe has the drivers but he can install them04:27
mfdutrause the nvidia official driver04:27
Yongets errrorororrrsd04:27
mfdutraI don't know if there is a ubuntu package for that driver04:27
mfdutralemme check it out04:27
arafatmfdutra: nvidia-glx ?04:28
mfdutraI've never used it, does it work fine?04:28
arafatyep, it works for me...04:28
mfdutraso that's the way04:28
mfdutraaptitude install nvidia-glx04:29
arafatapart from that, he should replace "nv" by "nvidia"04:29
mfdutrayes yes04:29
KnowerrorsYon: maybe this will help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=gforce+6600+gt04:29
arafatin his xorg.conf04:29
mfdutrahe has also to comment out some lines in xorg.conf04:29
mfdutraI'm not sure of which ones04:29
arafatwell... i did not comment out any lines. it should work out of the box04:30
mfdutraoh good04:30
mfdutraI've always used the driver from nvidia's website04:31
arafatme too... till i realized that there is a ubuntu package:-)04:31
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FinalhazardHello in here.04:32
Yonhe cant load the desktop wen he canges it from nv to nvidia04:34
mfdutradid he install the driver?04:34
Yonhe cant install it04:35
Yonhe keeps getting errors04:35
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FinalhazardI have a question about installing Firefox on the latest distro of Kubuntu. Does one need to use the "sudo" command then the tar command to unzip it, or do they need to be under the "root" username?04:36
fedthere is anyway to give a better look to grub ?04:36
mfdutraYon, what errors?04:36
FinalhazardI'm new to Kubuntu, so it may sound noobish...04:36
mfdutraFinalhazard, sudo aptitude install mozilla-firefox04:36
Yonsumthing about the kernal04:36
naliothFinalhazard: there is no active root account04:36
mfdutrasomething what?04:36
ubotuhmm... rootsudo is explained at  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo   also see /msg ubotu root04:37
FinalhazardThank you, I'll try that.04:37
naliothFinalhazard: enabling a root account will break functionality in kubuntu04:37
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FinalhazardAh. I see.04:38
FinalhazardSo just use the "sudo" command, right?04:38
arafatnalioth: really?04:38
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jahshua--can anyone tell me what is the equivalent of 'hardware manager' on kubuntu and how to get to it please ?04:39
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jahshua--sorry 'device manager'04:39
arafatjahshua--: type lspci in console   :-)04:39
naliotharafat: yes really, /msg ubotu root04:40
jahshua--im trying to find out the vertical and horizontal scan frequencies of my monitor.04:40
FinalhazardAlright, it's finished installing. But I noticed it was 1.0.7 of Firefox. Is there a similar way to upgrade it to 1.5?04:41
naliothFinalhazard: there is not.04:41
arafatnalioth: hmm.. i always enable root accout... haven't experienced any problems yet04:41
FinalhazardLet me guess, I have to download the tarball of 1.5, don't I?04:42
naliotharafat: there are lots of things i do that will break functionality.  however i realize what will break and so don't advise anyone else to follow my bad habits04:42
naliothubotu: tell Finalhazard about firefox1504:42
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arafatnalioth: true...04:43
FinalhazardAh, thank you.04:43
jahshua--does anyone know how i can find out the vertical and horizontal scan frequencies of my monitor ?04:43
FinalhazardHadn't looked there.04:43
arafatjahshua--: how many inches does your monitor have?04:44
jahshua--about 2004:44
jahshua--by the looks of it04:44
yonwell thanks alot guy04:44
yonu help me plenty!!!!04:44
yonnite nite04:44
arafatjahshua--: i can tell you my settings...mine is 19" settings worked both on a 19" and 20"04:45
jahshua--ok cool04:46
jahshua--please do04:46
arafatjahshua--: allright... i gonna smoke a cigaratte first... be back in 5 min.!04:46
jahshua--ok cool :)04:46
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visik7how can I set a system tray ?04:49
FinalhazardOh ho ho, thank you a lot, nalioth.04:52
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visik7I've a problem when I try to run gtk style and fonts04:55
visik7it doesn't open anything04:56
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arafatjahshua--: HorizSync 31.110    VertRefresh 60-16004:56
jahshua--ok thank you04:59
arafatgn8 everyone!05:03
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visik7kde rocks05:18
visik7the only thing is that I can't change the start page of konqueror05:19
visik7how can I do ?05:19
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sampanvisik7  in konq: settings --> configure konq --> behavior ...there's a spot to set the Home URL05:23
visik7I've set it05:23
visik7but it still open the page where it describe konqueror05:24
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fridgeI'm trying to view DVB with Kaffiene, I've been able to scan in a heap of TV stations, but they're currently all greyed out05:25
sampanvisik7  okay. in konq go to the page you want to set as your start page.  then go to settings --> save view profile 'kubuntu web' ... and make sure the box for "save URLs in profile" is checked05:27
sampanthen hit 'save'05:27
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visik7ok thank05:28
visik7ok thanks05:28
visik7onther issue05:28
visik7how can I integrate mplayer in konqueror ?05:29
visik7do I need to use kaffeine ?05:29
visik7I'm lookin' for a way to play wmv rm mov and other propretary codecs05:29
ubotusomebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install05:29
visik7w32codecs are installed05:29
sampannot sure -- iirc if you have installed the firefox-mplayer plugin you can tell konq to search for and use those same plugins.  but you can also set konq to open external applications (which is what i do)05:30
ubotuWish i knew, nalioth05:30
nalioth!bad bot05:30
ubotuno, you're a bad person nalioth!05:30
nalioth!info libquicktime105:30
sampanfiesty bot05:30
ubotulibquicktime1: (A library for reading and writing Quicktime files), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.9.3-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 261 kB, Installed size: 820 kB05:30
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thunderboltanyone have experience with scanner permissions?05:34
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FinalhazardHello again. I got Firefox working fine, didn't upgrade. But I now want to install a program like Limewire. Unfortunately, that requires installing an RPM, and I don't know how to do that. I tried installing alien to convert it to a deb file, but alien requires a few packages that require more packages...05:45
FinalhazardAnd that would mean downloading them all individually. Is there an easier way to do this?05:46
fusion2ndpccan some one help me out, just installed the amd64 version of kubuntu 5.10.  Once I "think" it loads up I get a gray screen and some blue garbled stuff towards the top of the screen05:46
naliothFinalhazard: ask uncle google about frostwire05:46
FinalhazardThanks. Sorry to ask such a stupid question.05:46
naliothno questions are stupid (unless you don't ask them)05:47
fusion2ndpcxorg.conf looks fine by the way05:47
FinalhazardWell, is there an easier way to install RPMs?05:47
FinalhazardBecause I'm getting very frustrated very easily. XP05:48
naliothFinalhazard: you really shouldnt use rpms05:48
ubotuhmm... alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/05:48
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naliothFinalhazard: introducing foreign packages to ubuntu can cause problems when upgrading05:48
naliothFinalhazard: i point you to frostwire, instead of limewire05:49
FinalhazardWait, this is my problem. Installing alien requires so many libs that require more libs, and I just want to do one thing and install FrostWire. It didn't look like it had a deb file.05:50
naliothFinalhazard: frostwire doesnt require alien, and it is also more open source05:50
FinalhazardAll I'm seeing on the site is RPMs.05:51
fusion2ndpccan I wget the drivers from the nvidia website, and install them without a problem??05:51
fusion2ndpcwithout having to get any other packages?05:51
FinalhazardAnd to install RPMs requires them to be converted.05:51
naliothFinalhazard: there is a frostwire available that is platform independent05:51
nasasjesus christ, update distrub giving me huge errors05:52
FinalhazardYou mean that ZIP version with the java install? HECK NO.05:52
_dadHi - want to set a static ip for my nic, kubuntu 6.1 on gateway p-II amd athlonn05:52
FinalhazardJava infected my last PC with trojans. And I don't want the same to happen on Kubuntu.05:52
naliothnasas: please respect us with your language choices05:52
naliothFinalhazard: limewire and frostwire are JAVA p2p clients05:52
nasaswhat did i say?05:53
Finalhazard...I must make myself look like an idiot now.05:53
nasasis jesus christ a curse?05:53
FinalhazardI didn't notice the fact it was Java.05:53
naliothnasas: religion politics and violence have no place here05:53
_dadis static ip set in an etc/eths sort of file? I don't have one now05:54
_dadanyone home?05:55
kkathman_dad its set through the networks file...if you are on kde, just go to systemsettings and choose networking06:00
kkathmannetwork settings that is06:00
_dadok I'll try tnx06:01
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kkathman_dad let me know if that doesnt work..typically DHCP is much better tho06:01
_daddamn these guis have their uses!06:03
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fusion2ndpcwell no thx to you guys *j/k*  I got it working.  I had to change the nv to vesa in xorg.conf to see what I'm doing06:05
fusion2ndpcis there an easy way to install the real nvidia drivers now :(06:05
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Patryhi all I just installed Kubuntu 5.10 and I need some help06:05
kkathmanwell I guess you dont need our help then06:05
kkathmanPatry: whats up tonight?06:06
PatryI'm in the Network Settings and apparently I can't go to the Administrator Mode06:06
PatryI can't see the button at the bottom of the screen06:06
kkathmanPatry: you need to do an update06:06
kkathmanPatry: run your adept updater06:07
kkathmanthat will fix it06:07
Patryand if it might help you, I run KUser and it seems to load but then nothing, not even a window open06:07
Patryand how do I do that? :-)06:07
kkathmanPatry: alt-f2 then type kdesu adept-updater06:07
kkathmanthen fetch the updates and install them06:08
Patrynothing happens06:08
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PatryI can't seem to access Internet either when I type something in the Konqueror bar it always say something like: Host website_here unknown06:09
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sampanfusion2ndpc  if you have the repositories enabled, there are nvidia drivers to install via adept/synaptic/apt-get ... they aren't the absolute latest ones, but they work well and haven't given me any trouble (and they're easy to install)06:10
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736806:10
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endo602good evening06:13
endo602is there anyway to raid two ide hdds together?06:13
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unistdhey, How I improve fonts in kubuntu?06:18
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unistdit's very stranger06:19
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josecual es el server06:22
naliothjose: marque /j #kubuntu-es06:22
dad_ok I'm back (crowd groans) - is it possible to mount a Windows XP share so that it appears in a directory under <wherever>?06:22
ubotuntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK06:22
sampandad_ yep -- see the link ubotu just posted06:22
dad_y'all are awesome - tnx06:23
kkathmandad_ Id use samba instead actually06:27
kkathmanmuch easier to set up06:27
ubotuhmm... samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently06:27
kkathmansorry sampan :)06:27
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sampankkathman  ahhhh -- no need to apologize -- i've never used samba so i have no idea how that would be different -- i just mounted my old ntfs data drive in fstab06:30
kkathmansampan: for newbs I usually suggest samba, just cuz its almost always set up on install...they go to konqy and type smb colon backslash and there they are06:31
sampanis samba truly easier than making one directory and editing fstab?06:31
sampanahhh guess so06:31
kkathmansampan: yeah theres virtually nothing to do06:32
kkathmanespecially if your home network has  more than one win box :)06:33
kkathmanat least in my opinion06:33
kkathmanplus with ntfs, when one machine has to reboot, all the others do too (unless thats changed recently)06:33
sampani guess he's trying to do a networking thing then -- i thought it was just mounting a HD (or partition)06:34
kkathmanwith samba you can also set individualized icons based on single directories on other machines06:34
kkathmaneither way works tho06:34
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kkathmansampan: either method requires alot more setup if you want to create specified logins06:40
sampani'll take your word for it! ;)  single-user machine here06:41
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N6REJwhats the name of the editor for kde?07:01
N6REJlike gedit?07:01
noirequusN6REJ: kate07:01
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Chameleon22howdy all07:33
Chameleon22trying to build knowit and configure script returns: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. but i do have libqt-dev installed and all07:33
Chameleon22any ideas?07:33
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HeartBTso a stupid question, I'm running Knome over ubuntu, should I be in kubuntu or ubuntu?07:50
HeartBTjust wondering.07:51
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Chameleon22hrmm it is a stupid question07:53
Chameleon22be in both07:53
kkathmanHeartBT: whatever you boot into, you actually have access to both sets of routines08:06
kkathmanChameleon22: dont be rude08:06
HeartBTheh, kewl.  that's kinda what I figured.  Now for a real question.  I heard of a script or applet that will allow for wireless roaming.  I have two networks that have WEP, several that are open.  Is there something that will take care of that?08:06
Chameleon22kkathman, you asked08:06
HeartBTkkathman, I've only got kwin, no kde besides that.08:07
kkathmanasked what??08:08
kkathmanHeartBT: not sure how you did that08:08
kkathmanif you booted into gnome, you can run kde apps and vice versa08:09
HeartBTmetacity is horrible.  I feel that it's a WM in the most basic sense.08:09
HeartBTgnome is a fairly nice interface, and is much less space, and resource intensive.08:10
HeartBT-nohup kwin --replace &&  when it's all over, reboot and save settings.  been running it for about 2 weeks, no problems.08:12
HeartBTanyway, any ideas about a script or applet?08:15
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ubuntui am using the live version of kubuntu but I have Ubuntu istalled on my pc but I'm digging this version09:51
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ubuntuI heard I can convert my current ubuntu to kde without losing my settings and files how do I do that?09:52
sampanubuntu  if you have the repositories enabled, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:53
sampanthat will download and install kde -- and leave your gnome intact -- in fact, that's what i (and many others) did09:53
thoreauputicubuntu: well, you can *add* KDE - you will have the choice of GNOME and KDE then09:53
ubuntuok thanks I'll try that,09:54
sampanof course, dumb-butts like myself have gnome but never ever use it -- wasted drive space (good thing storage is so cheap)09:54
thoreauputicubuntu: when it completes, just log out of gnome and choose KDE as your session09:54
ubuntuso gnome will stay on my pc?09:55
thoreauputicsampan: heh I have xfce4 and fluxbox as well ( I use fluxbox quite a bit)09:55
thoreauputicubuntu: yes09:55
ubuntuok thanks for all the info09:56
thoreauputicubuntu: so you can use either for any given login session09:56
sampanthoreauputic  yeah i do too actually ... i -would- use flux a lot (i like it -- esp. the stackable tabs) except i reboot only once every blue moon09:56
ubotuxubuntu is probably Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu09:56
thoreauputicsampan: same here - but logging out and choosing KDE , gnome, etc is easy enough09:57
sampanubuntu  when kde installs it will ask you if you want to use gdm or kdm ... you can do either, but if you think you'll use mainly gnome and only sometimes kde, you might want to stick with gdm -- and vice-versa.  afaik it really only affects the login screen09:57
sampanthoreauputic  yeah.  i mistyped: i guess i meant log out ... i have distributed computing stuff (F@H) that i hate interrupting09:57
thoreauputicah I see :)09:58
ubuntuok thanks,09:58
sampanbe warned, though, ubuntu, kde can be habit-forming ;)09:59
thoreauputicactually I've been turning the machine off lately at night - my record uptime was about 90 days with hoary until there was a powewr failure ;)09:59
ubuntuI can see how that is09:59
thoreauputics/powewr/power  ;-)09:59
sampannice thoreauputic :)10:00
thoreauputicsampan: I was annoyed - i was shooting for 100 days ;-P10:00
sampani think my winxp made 120 days a couple of times over the past 3 years actually10:02
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thoreauputicI haven't booted windows for months10:03
ubuntuI just looked at the info on Xubuntu what's that is it kde or gnome10:03
thoreauputicnot sure why I still have it at all10:03
thoreauputicubuntu: neither10:03
thoreauputicubuntu: it's another desktop10:03
sampani don't even have windows anymore -- the HD it was on isn't even in the pc anymore -- gonna turn it into a usb-connected external drive :D10:03
thoreauputicubuntu: have a look at http://xwinman.org10:04
sampanubuntu  Xubuntu uses xfce410:04
ubuntuthanks, I'll take a look10:04
thoreauputicubuntu: linux lets you use lots of different window managers and desktops10:04
ubuntuIt looks like win.xp10:06
thoreauputicaargh - what does?10:06
sampan"it" = ?10:06
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thoreauputicnot at all10:06
thoreauputicmore like mac Os-X if anything I think10:07
ubuntuwhat do most of you use10:07
sampanubuntu got a screen shot that you're looking at?10:07
sampani use kde -- but i've tried xfce and fluxbox and liked them both a lot.  very minimalistic, which i like10:07
thoreauputicubuntu: I use whatever I feel like - mostly fluxbox, sometimes gnome, sometimes kde10:08
nalioth_zZzubuntu: i use terminals mostly10:08
sampanubuntu  that desktop in that screenshot definitely has a XP-theme going on -- highly customized and NOT what most xfce desktops (that i've seen) look like at all10:09
ubuntuI'm new to using Linux which is why I'm on gnome because I hear it's the easiest10:09
thoreauputicubuntu: KDE isn't hard - just has more customisable possibilities10:10
ubuntuI like the look of KDE gnome is very boring looking10:10
thoreauputicubuntu: but both are good in different ways10:10
sampanwhy anyone would want to make their desktop look like the default XP one, i have no idea -- first thing i did even in win was to axe that blue crap10:10
nalioth_zZzubuntu: take your time, there are possibilities you haven't even seen yet10:10
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ubuntuwell so far, I like the browser on KDE10:12
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sampanubuntu, both kde and gnome have their strong points.  nalioth_zzz is right: take your time, try them out, tinker with them.  kde has an awful lot of options you can configure, so just exploring can take awhile (and be enjoyable too)10:13
thoreauputicubuntu: konqueror is also the file manager and integrates with all sorts of stuff ( like k3b for CD burning etc)10:13
nalioth_zZzubuntu: and you never know, you might find a Desktop Environment we've never heard of, and like it10:13
sampanyou can even rip your music in konq -- that thing does just about everything10:13
ubuntuWell I spent the last week installing plug-ins and everything else to get everything the way I wanted so I'm not ready to switch yet10:14
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thoreauputicubuntu: you don't need to switch - but have a play around and see what you like10:15
thoreauputicso much choice - it's a bit overwhelming at times :)10:16
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ubuntuIt is very overwhelming I wish I discovered the world of linux a long time ago10:17
penguinzdrwow only 45 minutes to new year10:18
thoreauputicUnix is hard to learn. The process of learning it is one of multiple small10:18
thoreauputicepiphanies. -- Neal Stephenson10:18
thoreauputicmy current .sig ?10:18
Chousukevery true.10:18
Chousukepenguinzdr: You live in the future!10:19
Chousuke11:19 here.10:19
thoreauputicSat Dec 31 20:20:03 EST 200510:20
thoreauputicstilla while to go here :)10:20
ChousukeThe measurement of time is relative, but time is the same for everyone else.10:20
penguinzdrChousuke: wow you are in my timezone10:20
ChousukeI wonder when the new year really is.10:20
penguinzdrin kirimati10:20
thoreauputicarbitrary isn't it ?10:21
sampanthis year gets an extra second to it10:21
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sampangonna throw off my kitchen clock10:21
penguinzdrChousuke: where are you livin'?10:21
Chousukepenguinzdr: Finland.10:22
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thoreauputicToday is Setting Orange, the 73rd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 317110:22
penguinzdrGMT +2 rulz!10:22
penguinzdrthoreauputic: ddate?10:22
thoreauputicyes :)10:22
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ChousukeWe could all use different calendars and have new years every day!10:23
ChousukeWhich year of Ubuntu is it now, btw?10:23
thoreauputicwell warty was October 2004 so ...10:24
penguinzdr2 years and 2 months10:24
penguinzdrbut kubuntu is younger10:24
thoreauputicerm I year and 2 months from official first release ?10:25
penguinzdrah one year, yes10:25
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ChousukeIt'll be interesting to see where Ubuntu will be 5 years from now.10:27
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penguinzdrwow ubuntu... 10.1010:27
penguinzdrwith KDE 6 :)10:28
penguinzdrand gnome 410:28
Chousukeand Linux 2.6.32910:28
penguinzdrno, linux 3.2 :)10:28
Chousukewith a microkernel! :|10:28
ChousukeI wonder if there'll be KDE 6.6.610:29
ChousukeEveryone will call it so good it's almost evil.10:30
penguinzdrwill Konqueror will be the default browser and file manager in KDE 6.6.6?10:30
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_paulhey guys, im getting a weird graphics problem on my kde desktop at random times, i've only been using kde for a short time and wondered if any of you guys knew waht i was on about10:35
_paulat random times when i'm using the system, i'll refresh a page or scroll down - the graphics suddenly corrupt! the only way ive found that fixes it is a simple logout of session10:37
_pauldo yuo think it may be sorted out if i update to kde 3.5?10:37
thoreauputicsounds more like a problem with X than KDE10:38
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penguinzdrwhy my microphone doesn't work?10:40
penguinzdri enabled it on KMix10:41
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RichardCkubuntu is finally updated10:53
RichardCnow to tweak10:53
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linux_galorejust decided to try the kubuntu live CD11:11
linux_galoreonly two minor bugs, 1 it ddidnt see my gateway 2. sound works but not with amarok11:12
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penguinzdrwhy i'm banned from #freenode-newyears?11:12
linux_galoreknoppix got it all right so did the Gentoo RR4 Live DVD, but Kubuntu got the resolution right and the fonts look nice11:14
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linux_galoreI'll give the Kubuntu 6.04 live CD 6 out of 1011:15
Anth0ny_Why is it that top often uses 99,99% of my CPU?11:15
Anth0ny_My system is doing nothing, but top says 48,7% idle11:15
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berkesodd. I try to install mysql-client + mysql-server on a vanilla breezy kubuntu, but it fails to load the database server11:33
berkessomthing with not bein able to assign a tcp/ip port11:33
berkesany hints? Should i restart some deamon or service to re-set the tcp/ip settings?11:34
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RichardCis firefox 1.5 not in the breezy repos yet?11:36
berkesRichardC: nope.11:36
berkesbut it is in klik!11:36
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RichardCis it in breezy-backports?11:37
ubotuwell, klik is at  http://dot.kde.org/1126867980/11:37
berkesklik.atekon.com if i am correct.11:38
berkesRichardC: I have found, personally, that FF is rather slopppy when it comes to Linux releases.11:39
RichardCso it seems11:39
berkesthe last two mayor releases broke completely11:39
berkestheir private "update system" and  homebrewn usermanagement completely breaks the linux standards.11:40
penguinzdrdoes klik brokes /etc/fstab?11:40
berkespenguinzdr: not that I know.11:40
berkesone thing about that klik, is that its quite safe to test out stuff on.11:41
hunikahello everybody11:41
hunikahelp to me11:41
hunikai need a conveting tool for kubuntu11:42
hunikaconveting media file types11:42
ChousukeI read klik's "can you imagine" list.11:42
hunikaso audio to mp311:42
ChousukeIt's OS X ;P11:42
hunikawma to mp311:42
hunikalike itunes11:42
hunikaand video file formats too11:42
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RichardCshould i tell synaptic to prefer package versions from breezy-backports?11:43
hunikakkathman-zzzz: are you there?11:44
berkesChousuke: no, its not. the big missing thing in osx is the fact klik does not add anything into your systems file-system11:45
hunikaRiddell: are you there?11:45
berkesChousuke: in other words, klik is perfectly able to run on a liveCD, for example. or some Harddisk less installation11:45
hunikaberkes: can you help me please11:46
berkesbu, anyone else with problems on istalling Mysql server?11:46
berkeshunika: msg me.11:46
hunikaberkes: I need a professional audio creation tool. So I can make music with it, or if I have a song I can give to it some effects11:47
hunikaberkes: do you know something? Or anyway you understand?11:47
berkeshunika: a few. there is lmms, audacity, mixxx and a lot more.11:49
hunikaberkes: but with wich I can disort my voice? So add some style to my voice? :))11:50
berkeshunika: have a look at dyne.bolic that is a distro specialised in multimedia creation. They have lots of nice applications listed.11:50
berkeshunika: that would be audacity11:50
hunikaberkes: Are you hungarian because your name is quite hungarian11:50
hunikaberkes: thanks11:50
berkesnu, Dutch. my name is Br Kessels.11:51
hunikaberkes: Another tool I need, converting program wich converts from audio to mp311:51
berkeslame. hunika11:51
hunikaberkes: I am hungarian11:51
hunikaberkes: thanks a lot11:51
berkeshunika: i am not saying your are lame though. Lame is a nice encoder11:51
hunikaberkes: i hope that i can find these in the repositories11:52
berkeshunika: you will.11:52
berkeslmms not, though, its very nice, (a complete sound studio package) but rather new still11:52
hunikaberkes: question11:53
hunikaberkes: can i run mac os software on linux?11:53
hunikaberkes: especially on ubuntu11:53
berkeshunika: no.11:54
berkeshunika: there are ways, but its hard11:54
hunikaberkes: okay than I will not work with it. I thought that I could run because both are Unix based and maybe there is an emulator like wine11:54
hunikaberkes: anyway i am new at linux that is why i am asking irreal questions :))11:55
Chousukehunika: on PPC Linux you can run OS X itself in an emulator.11:55
ChousukeBut that's pretty much all you can do to run OS X software on Linux11:56
berkeshunika: here is what i suggest: get going on linux. Learn where to find what. Learn how linux does stuff.11:56
berkesthen, onc eyou feel confortable in linux, start looking at advanced stuff like emulators and ports.11:57
berkesor compiling your own macos software on linux. Stuff like that is quite complex if you ar enew.11:57
Chousukeif you have the source, chances are it's some well know OSS project with a native linux port.11:58
berkesI was just referring to common known "rather advanced things to do".11:59
berkeshunika: Chousuke: its all about "grokking the underlying concepts" that just takes some time. Stuff like apt repositories. etc.12:00
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ChousukeI think I have that already :)12:01
hunikaberkes: I berkes: I was having my lunch sorry12:04
hunikaberkes: but I am back12:04
hunikaberkes: I have installed lmms but I can not see in the K menu12:05
hunikaberkes: lmms is connected to the old xmms?12:07
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RichardCwhat is a good p2p app?12:08
RichardCi've been using shareaza (gnutella 2 & edonkey) in windows12:08
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hashhello. I've disabled the menu-bar in konqueror (file/edit/etc...), but now, I don't know how to enable it. Is someone could help me ? :)12:16
manveructrl+m :)12:17
hashmanveru: great :) thanks12:18
manverui've got another problem, i've got an external HDD and want to format it to FAT32... parted and qtparted both crash...12:18
manverusomeone knows the command for fdisk or whatever i could use for partitioning?12:19
manveruoh, parted just came back to live... - nm :)12:20
berkeshunika: no12:25
hunikaberkes: anyway12:25
hunikaberkes: i have installed audacity12:25
hunikaberkes: but i can add a song, a recorded thing12:25
berkeshunika: a sec. I am surprised, I thought  lmms was not yet in the repos12:25
hunikaberkes: but i can not use the effects12:26
hunikaberkes: why? because these are mp3?12:26
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hunikaberkes: so what is the problem with audacity?12:28
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ludoi try to add a file on adept, but when i go to "manage repositorie" and i add the link i have an error. I think the URL isn't correct.12:45
ludowhat kind of URL i can use please12:46
ludosorry i an a noob12:46
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ludoi try to add a game12:46
ludohttp://priv.solsector.net/files.htm   this game, so i use the link of the file on adept, is it good ?12:47
ludocould you help me plz ?12:50
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hussamludo: that won't work. you can only add deb repositories12:52
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ludook so how can i add this file ?12:56
ludoit's a .run file12:56
hussamludo: where did you save the .run file?12:57
ludoon my desktop12:57
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hussamthe open konsole and type:  ~/Desktop/privgold10.bz2.run12:58
ludook i try12:59
ludoi don't have the permission i try with sudo ?12:59
hussamno don't use sudo12:59
hussamtype: chmod +x ~/Desktop/privgold10.bz2.run01:00
ludoi do it but there is nothing01:00
hussamok now type: ~/Desktop/privgold10.bz2.run01:01
ludoit's ok01:01
ludoi think01:02
hussamit worked?01:02
ludoit think it is the install01:02
ludoyes uncompressed01:02
ludosuper!  merci !!01:02
hussamthis should install it on your computer01:02
ludoi ll try to understand the command "chmod ...etc" after a little game :)01:03
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Yonhey does any1 know the server address for shadowfire?01:10
Anth0ny_can anyone of you remember how to add nvidia driver to Kubuntu with apt-get?01:11
Tm_TAnth0ny_: sure01:12
Anth0ny_apt-get install nv-driver or something like that?01:12
Tm_Tlook from there ;)01:12
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hunikaberkes: i am not registered user01:13
hunikaberkes: how to register01:13
Tm_Tthat's bit olidsh but should work01:13
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Tm_Thunika: to freenode?01:14
Tm_Tfaq <301:14
hunikaberkes: I register myself than I write to you my problmes at privi01:15
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hunikaberkes: ok01:15
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Yoncan i listen to all the diffrent song formatt in kubuntu?01:21
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minidouxHi !01:24
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hunikahey people01:29
hunikawhere can i download01:29
hunikakde styles / themes in debian format01:30
hunikaor is it possible?01:30
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hunikahow can i install baghira theme in kubuntu01:33
hunikanot that poor one which is in the repos01:33
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mebsdwhat's the advantage of kubuntu if ubuntu can have kde01:34
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Yonmebsd from wat i have been told the only diffrence is the looks01:36
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Phospheros>sigh< This is a little frustrating. Just installed and have a driver problem already.  Found a driver for it, going to mess with x -configure and pray it figures out my graphics and display setup properly for dual monitors and dual GPU's.  I'm curious how this Adept system works?  I played with it to install GAIM and Xchat, but how do I change where it draws from? To add another despository?02:06
berkesPhospheros: why do you wnat that in the first place02:07
PhospherosIt refers me to a sources file, but doesn't tell me where its at!02:07
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:08
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource02:08
PhospherosI need it to stay current with the graphics drivers. I have a Unichrome S3G IGP, and its fubar with the default driver.  Running on my ATI PCI card now.02:08
PhospherosOpenChrome project has a respository and want to add theirs as well to pull from there.02:09
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thinkleHi all -- I'm just trying out amaroK on a regular old GNOME ubuntu desktop and it won't play any ogg files. Any ideas what I might be missing?02:14
PhospherosThanks, now that I see it, its not such a big deal.    I like how the package manager works.02:17
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krillesome now what ET is ?02:17
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berkeset? is that not to phone home? :)02:18
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marwanHello, i have problem with me dial up modem which is AC97 modem02:24
marwanany one can help with this?02:24
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thinkleOkay -- fixed my amaroK problem -- installing kde-base did the job. Don't know why, though.02:33
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Riddellhunika: hmm?02:54
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ludoi try to run a game, but i don't know how ? i write the name in the konsole but it don't find, someone could help me plz ?03:57
hussamludo: is it that same game?03:58
hussamludo: where did you intall it?03:58
ludoin the manual, its just write run "privateer"03:59
ludohere /home/ludo/privgold03:59
hussamthen look under /home/ludo/privgold04:00
hussamsearch for a shell script or executable file called privateer inside /home/ludo/privgold04:00
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ludoi find play_vs i try to lunch it but it don't work (with chmod +x too)04:02
neoncodeare there any fixes for that bug with the fglrx driver, the one where if you chose the "big desktop" mode as a dual-screen mode and if things that are supposed to appear in the middle of the screen appear bettween the both of them and if use use maxamise it maximiases to both screens?04:03
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[mudi] hi, i have kubuntu breezy with kde 3.5 and I tried to install the kde api docs from the package kdelibs4-doc. there is nothing in it. the same package for kde 3.4.3, however, is 29MB download and 250 MB installed. so where are the kde 3.5 api docs?04:06
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[mudi] is there anybody awake in this channel?04:08
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Blissexneoncode: thats not a bug, thats what big desktop means...04:09
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FinalhazardHi again...04:13
FinalhazardI got Firefox 1.5 installed and everything, but for some reason when I try to install libstdc++ for it to work, it says it can't find the files in the seveas repository...04:14
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FinalhazardI'll show you an example of what it says:04:16
FinalhazardW: Couldn't stat source package list http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas/madwifi Pa                                 ckages (/var/lib/apt/lists/seveas.ubuntulinux.nl_dists_breezy-seveas_madwifi_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:16
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FinalhazardCould it have something to do with those spaces in it?04:16
FinalhazardIf so I'll probably have to fix the sources.list file, right?04:17
BlissexFinalhazard: 'apt-get update' :-)04:17
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FinalhazardI tried that. It gets the same error.04:18
FinalhazardWon' change the sources.list for anything.04:18
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kakeiwho can pls tell me how to install baghira04:19
FinalhazardHere's what it says:04:22
FinalhazardFailed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-backport04:22
Finalhazards/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found04:22
FinalhazardFailed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-custom/b04:22
Finalhazardinary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found04:22
FinalhazardFailed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/b04:22
Finalhazardinary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found04:22
FinalhazardFailed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/madwifi/binary-04:22
Finalhazardi386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found04:22
FinalhazardFailed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-backport04:22
Finalhazards/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found04:22
FinalhazardFailed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-custom/s04:23
Finalhazardource/Sources.gz  404 Not Found04:23
FinalhazardFailed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/s04:23
Finalhazardource/Sources.gz  404 Not Found04:23
FinalhazardFailed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/madwifi/source/                                           Sources.gz  404 Not Found04:23
FinalhazardThat's what it says when I try to use apt-get update. The rest install fine.04:23
apokryphosFinalhazard: do NOT paste in here, read the /topic04:23
FinalhazardSorry. I hadn't read it, my bad.04:23
BlissexFinalhazard: looks like that server foes not have the stuff you think it has.04:25
ninnghizidhaHello! I turned on the Universal Sidepanel and hided it .. and now i cant find it again. how do i show it?04:25
FinalhazardBut here's my question. Which server would work?04:25
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endo602good morning04:26
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apokryphosFinalhazard: all you have to put to get seveas' repo is, i.e.  deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas04:26
endo602I am having an issue with a kubuntu installation04:26
endo602i thought i installed it to a sata drive04:26
FinalhazardThank you.04:27
endo602but when I chose to install master boot record loader04:27
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endo602and the comp restarted I get nothing04:27
endo602will kubunutu install onto a sata drive if there are also ide drives attaached?04:28
endo602and will the boot loader install onto the right drive?  Is there anything I have to change in the bios to bring up the boot loader?04:28
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Blissexendo602: GNU/Linux installs to just about any disc, does not require the disc to be the ''first''. The issue is more the bootloaded, and that depends on how your BIOS works and what's on the other discs.04:33
endo602the other discs are ntfs04:34
endo602and there is no OSs on them04:34
endo602what would the issue with bootload be?04:36
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endo602what shoul i change in the bios?04:37
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endo602Blissex: ?04:39
Blissexendo602: well, the bootloader _must_ be on the MBR of the disc that the BIOS boots.04:40
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endo602how do i do that04:40
Blissexendo602: then it can load a kernel and setup a root filesystem from anywhere else04:40
Blissexendo602: it is not a big deal, you just need to know which disc the BIOS boots from, or tell the BIOS to boot from another disc.04:41
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endo602you mean my bios boots from my hdd?04:41
endo602right now I have pulled out my other hdds04:42
endo602so only sata is there04:42
visik7in gnome when I close my laptop it lock my screen in kde /var/log/acpi says :04:42
visik7xscreensaver-command: no screensaver is running on display :0.004:42
visik7xscreensaver-command: no screensaver is running on display :0.004:42
visik7what I've to change ?04:42
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endo602Blissex:  any ideas on how I go about it?04:44
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endo602Blissex:  how do i tell the bios how to do that?04:48
endo602in the boot order part of the bios?04:48
Blissexendo602: well, I have no idea which BIOS you have, but odds are in that part of the BIOS config.04:49
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root_____hi, i have a prob. :D i like go to kde 3.5, now i have 4.3.4 - give it a install version from ubuntu with kde 3.5 ?04:52
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endo602got it04:53
endo602i just pulled out my ides04:53
endo602for a momnt04:53
endo602now I gotta stick them back in04:53
kakei_jose, do u know how to install baghira?04:54
Ksharopkann hier jemand deutsch :/ ??04:54
_joseEn espaol04:54
ubotuI heard de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de04:55
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:55
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Yonhey guys04:59
endo602what is a swap areaD?05:00
Yoncan any1 help me, i cant get into my email it gives me an error saying i need to get a personal security manager05:00
Yonwat do i need to get?05:00
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bam_anyone know how I can get xine to run my dvd's as the default rather than kaffine?05:09
visik7in the conf of konqueror -> file associations05:12
visik7media-> dvd*05:12
visik7media-> dvdvideo05:13
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ninnghizidhaanyone managed to get shadows in Kubuntu with an Radeon-Card?05:19
ninnghizidhai hate ati for that crap drivers ...05:20
ninnghizidha... how good are the "radeon"-drivers?05:20
elijahanyone know how to fix error: "no URI handler implemented for <URL>" in Kaffeine when trying to play media from internet sites05:23
elijah.mpg files to be exact05:23
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elijahmmmm....not many helpers right now :'(05:27
apokryphoselijah: try install kaffeine-xine05:28
apokryphosnot streaming media, is it?05:28
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elijahactually its not playing anything....I've only tried .mpg tho05:29
elijahI tell a lie....it only wont stream05:29
apokryphosdon't know about streams, really, sorry05:30
chriswoodalldid you install the mpg package05:30
chriswoodall(sry I dont know what it is called for kubuntu)05:30
elijahI've install everything that says anything about decoding mpeg or mpg05:31
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elijahI started off more conservatively...but now I just install everything hoping that I'd find something that would work05:32
elijahand kaffeine-xine now included :(05:32
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chriswoodalland mp305:33
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elijahnot sure from net....everything from hdd seems to be ok05:36
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Deterministdear god, kde just feels so wrong sometimes05:36
elijahvlc can play but without audio :\ but i'd rather use Kaffeine05:37
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chriswoodallI don't know why but even though kde has more features I just feel more at home in gnome (I am not anti-kde, I actually like it) I dont know why05:44
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visik7is not just a question of features05:45
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chriswoodallI fell it is a personal thing. If you want to use gnome use gnome kde use kde xfce use xfce, flux box use flux box use what ever you want. Any way I can us emost kde apps in gnome05:47
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chriswoodallthough if you want to use windows you shouldnt use windows05:47
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visik7for example in xchat if I want to send something that is stored on a windows machine I need to download it first from nautilus and then open from local, while konveration open it directly05:48
visik7there are many of this examples05:48
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visik7moreover kde is external apps friendly05:49
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visik7while gnome isn't for example an apps that doesn't support the vfs of gnome cannot open remote file and you need to download from nautilus, while kde download it for you05:49
chriswoodalltrue but its the feel for me I dont like the overly glossy feel of kde05:49
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chriswoodallthis is just gonna lead to flaming and a war shall we stop arguing now05:50
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m_tadeuhi everyone05:55
spikehapokryphos: how would I change the administrator's theme to fix Synaptic's theme?05:55
apokryphosspikeh: do you have gtk2-engines-gtk-qt installed?05:56
m_tadeuare the ubuntu atp repositories the same as kubuntu?05:56
apokryphosm_tadeu: yes05:56
apokryphosexcept the extra kde 3.5 repository, which is at kubuntu.org05:56
spikehapokryphos: yes it's installed05:56
m_tadeuapokryphos: thanks05:56
apokryphosspikeh: then synaptic would use your kde theme (or at least try to, with that gtk2 engine)05:57
apokryphosone sec05:57
spikehapokryphos: but strangely it's not; it was fine when I first installed kubuntu, but suddenly it changed05:57
apokryphosspikeh: alt+f2 -> kdesu systemsettings05:58
apokryphosthen alter the theme from there05:58
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spikehapokryphos: but that doesn't affect Synaptic's theme05:59
apokryphosit should05:59
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apokryphosspikeh: as long as in GTK styles and fonts > "Use my kde style in gtk applications"06:00
spikehapokryphos: that's been checked06:00
spikehapokryphos: ah okay, after a restart it's back to normal06:00
spikehapokryphos: thanks for your help06:00
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spikehapokryphos: Synaptic is still not completely themed back to normal06:03
apokryphoswhat do you mean?06:03
spikehapokryphos: sure06:04
spikehapokryphos: how do I take one in Kubuntu? D:06:05
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apokryphosspikeh: alt+f2 > ksnapshot06:05
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_yannuxhye :)06:06
douglasYOu know how in the latest version, when you put in a disc it comes up with things you can do with it, like windows does, I tuned it off somehow, and now I want it back.06:06
douglasAlso, when I put in a disc it tries to open the folder of the disc, and I don't want it to do that.06:06
darkheartHello, I was looking for a little hep with the ATI binary driver. I installed it, but can't get the DRI module to load.06:06
spikehapokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/641906:07
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apokryphosspikeh: which part is the problem?06:07
m_tadeuapokryphos: I'm having the same problem as spikeh06:07
_yannuxdoes someone use ftp woth konqueror ? It seems very slow here :s06:07
apokryphos_yannux: yup, works perfectly06:08
apokryphosI use fish:// more though, these days, instead06:08
darkheartKubuntu complains that it can't find the module fglrx when I try to modprobe it.06:08
_yannuxapokryphos: fish://  ?06:08
_yannuxwhat's ?06:08
spikehapokryphos: well, the buttons, the main menu and the dropdown menus which isn't shown06:08
apokryphos_yannux: in konqueror: help:/kioslave/fish.html06:09
spikehthey're still not themed correctly06:09
_yannuxapokryphos: ok thanks ;)06:09
apokryphosspikeh: I don't think gtk2-engines-gtk-qt is perfected that much yet06:09
apokryphosthose sure haven't been themed totally for me, ever, as I recall06:09
spikehapokryphos: but it was all okay when kubuntu was first installed06:09
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spikehapokryphos: just suddenly, on one start, it broke06:10
_thedochi to all06:10
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_yannuxapokryphos: hum oki, here ftp connect and do nothing when I try to copy form ftp to local disk :s06:10
apokryphosspikeh: I don't recall it ever working like that, but it might've, I guess.06:11
douglasAm I able to upgrade to dapper right now without loosing any major functionality?06:11
apokryphosdouglas: dapper is broken06:11
douglasDid anyone see my question above?06:11
apokryphoseveryone did I'm sure, yes.06:11
douglasapokryphos: do you know what I'm talking about?06:12
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yannuxapokryphos: sorry , konversation crash06:12
douglasapokryphos: do you know how to fix it?06:12
lorenzoexcuse me06:12
lorenzoi have a question06:12
apokryphosdouglas: nope, sorry.06:12
yannuxapokryphos: you don't know where I can find the problem for this ? :s06:12
lorenzoanyone knows06:12
apokryphosyannux: hm, not sure why that's happening. Have you tried with multiple servers, or just one?06:12
lorenzowhat does contain the ubuntu's dvd??06:13
yannuxapokryphos: hum just  one, I'm trying with other now06:13
apokryphoslorenzo: ubuntu live+install06:13
lorenzoit's the *entire* universe repository?06:13
lorenzohow is it possible to get the universe on a single dvd?06:13
lorenzo(if is it possible!!)06:13
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apokryphosyannux: if you have ssh access on the server, it's really worth trying out fish06:13
apokryphoslorenzo: it probably isn't06:14
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apokryphoslorenzo: why?06:14
lorenzocos i got only my sweet old 56k at home06:14
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apokryphoslorenzo: you may want to look into apt-zip, then06:15
douglasok, I know what it is now, Does anyone know how to enable mime types?06:15
lorenzoor maybe i'll go back to debian....06:15
apokryphosup to you06:15
lorenzoubuntu is so UP-TO-DATE....06:15
yannuxapokryphos: there is, but the web environement is chroot, and not same user id :s06:15
apokryphosso look into apt-zip, then06:16
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chriswoodallis it good or bad and does it work with tiger06:16
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[The_Doc] i don't know why, kde sound system sometime hang up, kde35 will fix it???06:18
lorenzoback to debian06:21
[The_Doc] ???06:21
yannuxapokryphos: I reduce some times in the system settings, it seems better :)06:22
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darkheartDamn ATI driver...06:28
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revis there a way to force konqueror to use a WINS-server when doing smb:/ ?06:36
m_tadeuwhy does my konsole always starts maximized? what can I do to change this?06:37
apokryphosm_tadeu: change to the size you want, then settings > save as default06:37
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m_tadeukool thx a lot :)06:38
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m_tadeuhow do I set the default dm to kdm?06:50
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Snake__!seen snake06:53
ubotusnake <n=snake@adsl-65-43-145-148.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kubuntu-offtopic, 1d 7h 5m 16s ago, saying: 'baby dats all we need'.06:53
Snake__m_tadeu: you still here?06:54
m_tadeuSnake__: sorry yes06:55
Snake__m_tadeu: you are on kubuntu correct?06:55
m_tadeuSnake__: yep06:55
m_tadeuSnake__: but I installed ubuntu first06:56
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Snake__m_tadeu: at your login screen, where you type your password, it should say "Session Type" just select KDE from there, then everytime you log in, it should stay KDE, unless you log in with a diffrent session06:56
Snake__unless you log in with a diffrent desktop manager**06:57
Snake__sup kkathman06:57
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m_tadeuSnake__: I want to change the manager, not the default login session :)06:57
Snake__m_tadeu: I dont see what you mean.....06:58
kkathmanhey Snake__ :)06:59
m_tadeuSnake__: well, you can have gdm or kdm on your login screen06:59
ClayGgreets kkathman06:59
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kkathmanhey ClayG :)06:59
ClayGanyone here have suggestions for organizing an ipod? or finding song names if I have a bunch of 1,2,3 songs named numbers?06:59
kkathmanm_tadeu: you get your dm from the splash screen - sessions06:59
Snake__kkathman: thats what I said...he said thats not what he wants lol07:00
kkathmanClayG: I org mine in playlists,07:00
kkathmanSnake__: there is no other way07:00
ClayGwhat if you have a bunch of songs called 107:00
ClayGand some of the songs have no words, are just beats07:00
ClayGis there a database that compaires them by fiel size?07:01
kkathmanClayG: they begin with 1 ??07:01
ClayGand give you a list of possibles?07:01
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ClayGnah it's cd's that people made with a song here a song there but they named them 1,2,3,4,5, so when i transffered them over there are like 20 songs with the name 107:01
kkathmanClayG: I think manually you have to just put those in a playlist or perhaps you can group them by group or genre?07:01
m_tadeukkathman: I thought the dm started for the login07:01
Drakeson_how can I get the kernel source?07:02
Drakeson_what is the package name07:02
kkathmanm_tadeu: no, it starts from the splash beause you can have multiples on your system of course...now you can CHANGE your default07:02
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stefanoput yer hands in the air like ya just dont care07:04
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gerstapt-get install kernel-sources-2.6.1007:04
gerstor whatever kernel version you have07:05
m_tadeukkathman: oki...so there is a login app from gnome and one from kde?07:05
kkathmanm_tadeu: yes...your boot knows which one you choose by default. On the live CD, however, it autoselects gnome07:06
kkathmanbut if you have both kde and gnome you'll get a splash screen (usplash) that you can choose your session07:06
kkathmanm_tadeu: thats all set up in the rc3.d script and initttab07:08
Snake__kkathman: Do you kno anything about scripting?07:08
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Snake__And ill bet he feels dumb :)07:08
kkathmanSnake__: what kind of scripting07:09
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Snake__kkathman: Bash07:09
kkathmana little07:09
Snake__kkathman: I'm trying to do a simple echo script, and it wont work07:09
Snake__sudo echo Hello!07:09
Snake__And it tells me the commands now found07:09
kkathmanrobotgeek is the scripting master07:10
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Snake__robotgeek is on vacation for 2 weeks :)07:10
kkathmanoh yeah07:10
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kkathmanSnake__: try doing this   echo "hello"07:11
Snake__kkathman: I figured out why07:11
Snake__kkathman: I had to set chmod to allow me to execute the file07:12
kkathmannot really07:12
kkathmanor did you actually write a script07:12
kkathmanif so, yes you have to chmod it07:12
Snake__I wrote a script lol07:12
kkathmanahh ok07:12
Snake__Yea, i forgot about that :)07:12
kkathmanthought you were doing that from the cli07:12
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kkathmanSnake__: look (but dont touch) some of the scripts in /etc/  - good place to see whats going on07:13
kkathmanlike /etc/ rc3.d for instance07:13
Snake__Whats that do?07:13
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kkathmanrc3d is a directory of scripts that runs on boot up for initlevel 307:14
Snake__Ah ok07:14
kkathmanin general, ubuntu uses inittab to start everything and then dumps to rc.S  scripts then to the run level as rc.x (x-0, 1, 2, 3 etc as runlevel)07:15
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Snake__kkathman: would I need to type in sudo to do things that only root can do, or can I just run the script as "sudo ./hello.sh"07:15
kkathmanonce you chmod it (and/or chown) you shouldnt need the sudo, unless you are modding system files (which you sholdnt)07:16
Snake__Lol, no im not, but i'm writting a script so that I don't have to type "ifdown eth0, iwconfig wlan0 essid, ifup wlan0" yada yada07:17
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kkathmanSnake__: then no07:18
kkathmanput it in /usr/local/bin07:18
Snake__Why there?07:18
spikehhow do I edit/add folders/applications to KMenu?07:19
Snake__ spikeh Right click on the "K" and use the menu editor07:20
spikehSnake__: thank you~ :)07:20
Snake__No problem07:20
kkathmanSnake__: I wrote a script that cleared my logs and then scheduled it with cron for each Friday07:20
Snake__kkathman: kewl07:21
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Java_the_HuttHello, I am trying to insall gnokii, but it says "nokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable" I have libgli2.0 , what should i do ?07:43
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kkathmanJava_the_Hutt: how are you trying to install??  using apt-get ??07:46
Java_the_Huttkkathman: yes exactly07:47
kkathmanJava_the_Hutt: it should install it for you then if it needs it I reckon07:47
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Java_the_Huttwell the thing is, in my system i have libglib2.007:47
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Java_the_Hutttherefore, it does not install 1.2, however gnokii looks for it07:48
kkathmanJava_the_Hutt: do a dpkg -l | grep libglib207:48
kkathmanmake sure you have both the lib and the dev07:48
kkathmanI cant understand why it would need the dev tho07:48
udomsakBreezy xkboption can't work  but console setxkbmap is work , what is wrong ?07:49
Java_the_Huttkkathman: i did07:49
Java_the_Hutti  libglib2.0-0                           2.8.3-0ubuntu1                     The GLib library of C routines07:50
kkathmanJava_the_Hutt: you might need to do the apt-get install on that -data file too07:50
kkathmantry that07:50
m_tadeuI'd like to run some apps at startup that need super user permissions. where is the best place to put them?07:50
kkathmansudo apt-get install libglib2.0-data07:50
Java_the_Huttdata ?07:51
kkathmanI have all three on my system actually07:51
kkathmanm_tadeu: what kinds of things?07:51
m_tadeukkathman: setserial and gnome-ppp with sudo07:51
kkathmanm_tadeu: are you in gnome or kde?07:52
m_tadeukkathman: kde07:52
Java_the_HuttPackage libglib2.0-data is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:52
Java_the_HuttThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:52
kkathmanm_tadeu: ok...create a script with the sudo statement, then chmod it to executable, then symlink it to ~/.kde/Autostart07:52
Java_the_Huttkkathman: what now ?07:53
kkathmanJava_the_Hutt: are you on breezy?07:53
m_tadeukkathman: what about the password?07:53
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Java_the_Huttkkathman: yes07:53
kkathmanJava_the_Hutt: would you please check your /etc/apt/sources.list and see if you might have universe disabled ?07:53
rubemhow can i search for a file?07:53
kkathmanm_tadeu: you will need to pass it as an argument in your script I reckon07:54
kkathmanrubem: locate or find07:54
rubemim konqueror07:54
kkathmanrubem: you cant in konqy that I know of07:55
rubemkkathman does locate and find look recursively in the directoryes?07:55
kkathmanrubem: yes07:55
kkathmanrubem  man find   or    man locate07:56
kkathmanthere are options for all that07:56
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udomsakkkathman: Breezy have bug for switch keyboard layout ?07:57
Java_the_Huttkkathman: only backports are disabled07:57
kkathmanJava_the_Hutt: at your cli...could you do an apt-cache search libglib2 and see what you get07:58
kkathmancuz on my system its there07:58
spikehI've added a new folder to the K Menu yet it's not being shown?07:58
endo602good afternoon, I just did a fresh install of kubuntu and the desktop keeps freezing up07:59
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kkathmansampan: hey bro - thanx :)07:59
endo602is this a known problem?07:59
sampanhey kkathman  :)07:59
kkathmanendo602: no07:59
kkathmanendo602: works fine for me and has since warty :)08:00
endo602anyways to investigae this deeper?08:00
udomsakI'm newbie who can help me ?08:00
kkathmanendo602: did you upgrade to kde 3.5 ?08:00
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udomsakI can't find  answer on google08:00
kkathmanudomsak: I dont think we understand your question08:00
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endo602kkathman: yes i updated08:01
endo602kkathman:  to 3.508:01
BrianB04Hello all.08:01
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kkathmanudomsak: try K-menu, System Settings, Regional Accessibility, Keyboard Layouts08:01
kkathmanendo602: that might be your problem08:01
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udomsakkkathman: I use that but still don't work08:01
kkathmanudomsak: what isnt working?08:02
endo602kkathman: how to i go about remedying this situation08:02
udomsaklayout can't switch group08:02
udomsaklayout group  can't switch08:02
kkathmanendo602: well first, I'd check to see whats taking resource...so do a TOP at the CLI and look for big resources (i.e. the gam server for instance)08:02
udomsakbut in console i can use setxkbmap to set  it can do08:03
kkathmanudomsak: I dunno...beats me08:03
kkathmanudomsak: are you trying to map keys on your keyboard to certain things?08:03
udomsakkkathman: yes08:03
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endo602ill check that out08:04
kkathmanudomsak: some things you can map....your extended keys (like volume for instance) you cannot08:04
kkathmanhmm  I guess Java didnt do his apt-cache08:04
kkathmanI suspect a problem there08:05
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udomsakkkathman: I disable xkboption but I not use config from xorg.conf08:05
udomsakkkathman: what wrong ?08:06
udomsakkkathman: Can i edit 'setxkbmap' in xkboption ?08:07
kkathmanudomsak: you can try, but I've never had much luck to be honest :(08:07
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udomsakkkathman: Sorry , ?08:09
kkathmanyah the KB mapping isnt really advanced in KDE Im afraid.08:10
kkathmanMost MFGRS dont write drivers for their KBs in linux :)08:11
udomsakkkathman: Now  I'm try to use Kconfigeditor to solve it but have problem with make :(08:12
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kkathmanudomsak: well thats a different issue Im sure :)08:12
udomsakkkathman: where KDE keep configuration ?08:13
udomsakkkathman: It keep in xml file like gnome ?08:14
udomsakkkathman: It keep in xml format like gnome ?08:14
kkathmanudomsak: ~/.kde08:15
DrakesonI think I need 2.6.15 in dapper to get rid of a kernel panic. Is it anywhere near usable now?08:15
kkathmanDrakeson: its not too bad...you just need to understand that its far from being released08:17
kkathmanDrakeson: what panic are you getting and do you know what causes it yet?08:17
DrakesonI have a legacy camera which needs spca5xx08:17
kkathmanaha USB?08:18
kkathmanyeah I had that a long time ago under RedHat08:18
kkathmanbut havent under Ubuntu08:18
Drakesonyou mean it was ok under redhat and not under ubunut?08:19
kkathmanno...other way around08:19
kkathmanI got a KP under red hat not under ubuntu08:19
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Drakesonmine worked in redhat and after switching to hoary and then breezy it stopped working08:19
kakeihi i installed kwin-baghira how can i activate it?08:20
DrakesonI have read here that it is going to be resolved in 2.6.15 http://mmendes.jb0.org/blog/08:20
kakei(via aptitude install kwin-baghira)08:20
kkathmanDrakeson: yah thats the kernel I believe08:20
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kkathmanDrakeson: I cant advise you on installing a new kernel under breezy, cuz I just dont know...but its feasible I guess08:20
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Drakesonhave you tried 2.6.15?08:21
kkathmannope Im still on 2.6.12-1008:21
Tm_Tkakei: use kcontrol08:21
Drakesonkakei: go to systemsettings, appearance, Window decoration08:21
ubuntuneUbuntu sounds like a greeting08:22
kkathmanTm_T: do you know if you can install the 2.6.15 kernel on breezy?08:22
ubuntunei say ubuntu.. you say kbuntu08:22
Tm_Tkkathman: sure, compile yourself =)08:22
kkathmanubuntune: ubuntu and kubuntu are different08:22
ubuntuneyes i know08:23
kkathmanDrakeson: try asking Tm_T he's very good at that08:23
ubuntunei was talking about their pronuncation08:23
Tm_Tno I'm not? ;)08:23
kkathmanyes you are Tm_T  please dont be that way08:23
kkathmanyou are a guru08:23
DrakesonTm_T: here comes me the n00b!08:23
kkathmanyer an OP for crying out loud!08:23
kkathmanTm_T: knows about everything there is to know about compiling08:24
kkathmanhe runs the leading edge of everything :)08:24
kkathmanAND makes it work!08:24
Tm_Twhy I'm asking help all the time then? ;-P08:24
DrakesonTm_T: are you on dapper?08:24
ubuntunecan anyone please steer me in the right direction for plugings that make xine play a dvd?08:24
kkathmancuz your question are always miles above all of us!08:24
Tm_TDrakeson: yes08:25
Drakesonis your machine alive?08:25
kkathmanubuntune: use kaffeine and apt-get kaffeine-xine08:25
Drakesonis it healthy?08:25
Tm_TDrakeson: yes, now08:25
ubuntunei tried that but i couldnt get it working  now i have reinstalled kbuntu and want to get xine woring with dvd's again08:26
kkathmanubuntune: try noatun?  or Totem?08:26
Drakesondo I need dist-upgrade to get there or you recommend live cds?08:26
ubuntuneeach needs a xine plugin also?08:26
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Tm_TDrakeson: I don't recommend dapper if there's no reason to move to it08:26
Drakesoncan I have 2.6.15 on breezy then?08:27
Tm_Tyes, if you make "your own" kernel08:27
kkathmanTm_T: he's getting a kernel panic08:27
Tm_Tcompile it yourself that's it08:27
Tm_Tand I don't know a thing about building kernel08:28
Tm_Tnever done myself08:28
DrakesonI can do it but I hope not to, It takes me some time08:28
Drakesondid you dist-upgrade or used live cds?08:29
Tm_TDrakeson: kernel panic? what processor? what kernel?08:29
Tm_TDrakeson: dist-upgrade08:29
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Tm_Thave you tried other kernels? like 68608:29
Tm_Tuuh, magical uptime, over one day =)08:30
DrakesonTm_T: yep, I have even tried K7 on another machine08:31
Drakesonthe bug doesn't seem arch dependent08:32
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake08:32
DrakesonTm_T: can you give me your /etc/apt/sources.list ?08:34
Tm_TDrakeson: well, that doesn't help you much08:34
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:34
Tm_Tuse source-o-matic and then change all breezy to dapper08:34
Tm_Tthat's how I did it08:35
spikehhow do I view NTFS partitions under Kubuntu? it says that my NTFS partitions are mounted under /media/ but when I try and access them it gives an error "could not enter folder"08:37
ubuntunedoes xine need xine-dvdnav to play dvd's?08:37
Tm_Ttesting kopete ->08:37
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Tm_Tnah, doesn't compile08:42
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KnowerrorsHey all, Im getting this error when I try start Firefox "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?" , help please09:27
kakeihey where can i edit the color of the desktop pager (desktop 1) (desktop 2) etc.09:27
Lacertahow do i mount an ISO so that applications actually know where to search for it?09:27
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Java_the_Hutt gnokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable09:30
Java_the_Hutt gnokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable09:30
Java_the_Hutt gnokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable09:30
Java_the_HuttHello i am trying to install "gnokii" but it complains that it says :" gnokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable" in mu system libglib2.0 installed, what can i do ?09:31
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stupendo44question: how can I capture sound that is being played?09:32
Java_the_HuttHello i am trying to install "gnokii" but it complains that it says :" gnokii: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable" in mu system libglib2.0 installed, what can i do ?09:33
stupendo44Java_the_Hutt: you can try to override the depends, or get another version09:33
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Java_the_Huttstupendo44: should i ?09:34
stupendo44is gnokii in the repo?09:34
Java_the_Huttstupendo44: yes09:35
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stupendo44then maybe not09:35
stupendo44Java_the_Hutt: I've seen that before, but I'm not sure what the solution is09:35
Java_the_Hutti see09:35
modifiedI have a 40gig fat32 hd that is mounted, but I need it mounted to where I can write to it09:36
modifiedI've tried everything in the /etc/fstab09:36
modifiedbut nothing works09:36
modifiedI have it mounting to /home/modified/storage09:36
modifiedand for some reason it won't take on the default settings of /home/modified09:36
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kaymodified: You need to say that when mounting09:37
kaymodified: In fstab, do you have a line for the mount? Does it include option ro or something possibly?09:38
modified/dev/hdb1 /home/modified/storage vfat rw,user,auto 0 009:38
modifiedthats what I have now09:38
kaylooks ok09:38
modifiedi've tried it a couple of other ways, but nothing works to where I can write to it09:38
modifiedin gentoo it was working just fine with that line09:39
kayThat's strange, did you unmount it?09:39
modifiedI even restarted09:39
kayHm... what is the permissions of a file in there?09:39
kayAnd who is the owner of the dir if you you at it with ls -ld09:39
modifiedthe files should take the permissions of the storage file09:40
kayYou can specify a permission mask at mount time09:40
kayAnd owner of the thing09:40
modifiedwhat would I add to the line?09:40
kayPlease do that ls -ld /home/modified/storage09:40
kayLets check first the bases :)09:40
modifiedi will, but i'm sure its fine09:41
kayLet me be sure, because something is wrong :p09:41
modifiedsomethign is messed up09:41
modifiedroot root09:41
kayThat is not a user mount then09:41
modifiedi made that file logged in as modified09:41
kayAh, you have auto09:42
kayAnd that made things mounted by root09:42
modifiedit didn't in gentoo09:42
modifiedwhat line should I try09:42
kayAnd then it is his and he doesn't allow mortals to change it09:42
kayI have to check man mount or you can :p09:42
modifiedI'm trying kubuntu for my GF,but I'm thinking of heading back towards gentoo, easier for me to handle09:42
modifiedI don't like this whole not having a root account thing09:43
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kayLook at uid=modified09:43
kayAnd gid=users maybe09:43
kakeiwho can help me chaging the colors of the 1,2,3,4 (DESKTOPS) http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1473/kakei0vx.jpg09:44
modifiedwhat should the "rw,user,auto" line look like09:44
kaymodified: It is easy to get a root though09:44
kaysudo passwd09:44
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kayYou just give root a password and be in09:44
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kayOr in the alternative, you login as root from your user as sudo -i09:45
modifiedoh wow09:45
modifiedI just did that09:45
modifiedjust like the livecds09:45
kayWhat's with those CDs?09:45
modifiedin the gentoo livecd you don't know the root password, but you can sudo passwd it09:46
modifiedso then you can mount hd ont he computer09:46
kayAh i see.... last I tried gentoo, this was not like it :)09:46
modifiedi guess you don't get what I'm saying09:50
modifiedanyways, what should I have in the /etc/fstab09:51
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kayappend uid=modified,gid=users to the options09:52
modifiedleave the "rw,user,auto" part?09:52
kaysure, although auto and user are quite a contradicition09:52
kayauto means mount at boot always09:52
kayand user would allow you to mount (and then own) it09:53
modifiedI had it set up to always mount at boot and where I own it before09:53
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modifiedthats what is confusing me09:53
kayhow would it know?09:54
modified[modified]  thats what is confusing me09:54
kayi have to run09:54
kaybye :)09:55
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apollo2011I just started amaroK up for the next time and hooked up my iPod and hit Connect and it crashed.  Now I can't start amaroK anymore.  it crashes.09:56
apollo2011I get this error:09:56
apollo2011$ amarok09:57
apollo2011amaroK: [Loader]  Starting amarokapp..09:57
apollo2011amaroK: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.09:57
apollo2011QLayout: Adding KToolBar/mainToolBar (child of QVBox/unnamed) to layout for PlaylistWindow/PlaylistWindow09:57
apollo2011QGArray::at: Absolute index -1 out of range09:57
apollo2011amaroK: [Loader]  amarokapp probably crashed!09:57
ex`Tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure amarok?09:57
apollo2011just tried completely uninstalling and reinstalling it thats all09:57
kayex`: Will tha clean the user config ?09:57
kayapollo2011: Did you provide --purge ?09:57
ex`kay: Not sure exactly, I don't think so. A dpkg --purge would work better, probably09:58
apollo2011I did it in Synaptic but its the equivalent of doing that09:58
ex`Synaptic only does an apt-get remove <packagename> afaik09:58
kayapollo2011: You more or less have to find amarokrc and remove it09:58
Java_the_Huttanyone e xperince with GPRS / EDGE ?09:59
kayThat kind of thing will most always cure that kind of problems in KDE programs09:59
KnowerrorsIm trying to fix the java plugin link for Firefox, should it be linked to /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/ns4, ns610, or ns610-gcc32 folder?09:59
apollo2011kay: ok, I was looking for any config in my ~/ but I couldn't find any.  I thought maybe it was in .de10:00
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apollo2011amarok is still not working10:05
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claydohtry deleting/renaming ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok and ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc10:09
_christopherHello, I have just installed kubuntu. I am trying to change some settings. I do not think the installation asked for my root/administrator password. How can I fix this?10:10
sampanubotu tell _christopher about root10:10
darkheartHello, which package would the X headers be in?10:10
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev10:11
uboturoot is probably by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password10:11
darkheartThanks nalioth10:12
Knowerrorsnalioth: got any ideas to solve INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory? on firefox startup10:14
_christopherubotu, I enter my password and it is accepted but I cannot change any settings10:14
ubotu_christopher: I think you lost me on that one10:14
naliothKnowerrors: factory?10:15
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_christopherubotu, examle, I try to change the date and time. I start system settings, click on 'date and time',  click 'adminsistrator mode', enter my password. My password is accepted but, all the settings are grayed out10:16
ubotu_christopher: what are you talking about?10:16
_christopherI cannot change any settings!!10:17
Knowerrors_christopher: I had this problem yesterday10:17
_christopherhow did you fix it?10:17
Knowerrors_christopher: updated kde, and also kubuntu-desktop-settings10:18
darkheartWhere would KDE headers be stored? Program I'm trying to configure is complaining the target folder doesn't have KDE headers.10:18
Knowerrorsdo you know how to do that _christopher , or should I explain more?10:18
naliothdarkheart: install kde-devel10:18
darkheartnalioth: Thanks again.10:19
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Knowerrorsnalioth: I don't know what factory means either, Firefox won't start, so I ran it at comman line, and got that error10:19
naliothKnowerrors: rename your ~/.mozilla-firefox10:20
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Knowerrorsnalioth: rename it to ?10:21
naliothKnowerrors: peoria10:21
m_tadeuhi everyone...i don't seem to be able to write on my fat32 partitions, even if I have them as rw in fstab10:22
Knowerrorshmm, I don't have a ~/.mozilla-firefox, just ~/.mozilla10:22
naliothKnowerrors: how bout ~/.firefox?10:23
AoPwhen it says ~/.(filename) does the . mean it's hidden?10:24
Knowerrorsnalioth: nope10:25
KnowerrorsAoP: yup10:25
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naliothKnowerrors: you have nothing with 'firefox' in it hidden in your homedir? not in the .mozilla folder, perhaps?10:27
Knowerrorsthere is a firefox folder in .mozilla, so I renamed .mozilla, ran firefox and got same error10:28
AoPcheck ~/.mozilla/firefox perhaps?10:28
naliothKnowerrors: what kind of firefox is this?10:29
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zsoficiHello everybody10:29
Knowerrorsnalioth: 1.0710:29
zsoficican I find a 3d world mapfor linux10:29
zsoficican I find a 3d world map for kde10:30
zsoficiespecially kubuntu10:30
naliothzsofici: please don't repeat10:30
naliothKnowerrors: sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox10:31
m_tadeucan anyone help me with fstab?10:32
Knowerrorsnalioth: will try and come back later... it may be one of the plugins I installed10:32
zsoficiraphink: Hello I am hunika can you help me please10:33
zsoficiraphink: I need 3 d world map for linux something like that by google or by longgame10:33
naliothKnowerrors: that is very likely, but it should have cleared it when you renamed your .mozilla folder10:34
Knowerrorsnalioth: yeah, it just made a new .mozilla folder10:34
naliothbut your plugins/extensions are in the renamed one10:35
Knowerrorsthey were... I deleted it :(10:36
Knowerrorsno biggie, can get em back quick10:36
zsoficiKnowerrors: If you can please give me a tip10:37
zsoficiKnowerrors: I need something like google earth for linux10:37
zsoficior a world map10:37
zsoficia World Atlas10:38
zsoficikkathman:are you there help me please10:39
naliothzsofici: ask google "world atlas"10:39
zsoficinalioth: i NEED SOMETHING10:39
zsoficinalioth: If you something please give me10:39
naliothzsofici: obviously we cannot help you at this time.10:39
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epphey anyone know how to set compiler paths in kdevelop?10:47
Polly_MorfHow do i fix the following error in kdevelop::10:48
Polly_MorfTerminal cant open pty10:48
Polly_MorfAnyone else who has that problem?10:49
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kakeihey does any one knows how to move, the trash and the clock of the kicker bar?10:51
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eppkakei, click and hold on the little bar to the right of the thing you want to move?10:52
kakeii cant ;| it doesnt move10:53
m_tadeukakei: try unlocking the bar10:53
kakeiits unlocked10:54
eppright click the thing you want to move... and pushmove?10:54
bam_anyone know of a good home backup program? automated10:54
kakeithe trash and clock doesnt have that :((10:54
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bam_yes they do on that damn arrow pointing up10:56
m_tadeukakei: mine moves with the applet handles activated10:56
bam_btw, unlock your panel before you do that10:56
kakeiur trash move m_tadeu?10:57
m_tadeukakei: not using that...only the clock10:57
kakeihow did u move it m_tadeu10:58
m_tadeukakei: i enabled the applet handles and d'n'd10:58
m_tadeudrag and drop10:59
kakeim_tadeu, when i click the clock it shows me the calendar11:00
epphey anyone know how to set compiler paths in kdevelop?11:00
Polly_Morfepp: doesn't just kdevelop use $PATH?11:00
m_tadeukakei: you should have a small vertical bar on the left side of the clock( or maybe then you move your mouse on the bar )..drag that bar11:01
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eppPolly_morf how do i change it then?11:04
Polly_Morfepp: $PATH?11:05
eppPOlly_morf where do i type the new one in??11:05
Polly_Morfepp: how do you mean? Add something to $PATH, or change kdevelop config?11:06
eppwhat do i click on in kdevelop to change it... do i open a file on my hd or do i open settings or what?11:06
eppbecause this is the error it gives me11:07
eppUnable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find it in /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-
eppbut the real one is in /usr/lib/sun11:07
Polly_Morfln -s /usr/lib/sun/tools.jar /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-
Polly_Morfi would guess11:09
Polly_Morfas root11:09
Polly_Morfchack so its the right dir11:09
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eppisnt there a thing i can change in kdevelop to set a path of a compiler?11:12
Elsan_Can anyone tell me how to get back the default Kubuntu colors? I changed them by error and want them back :(11:13
Polly_Morfepp: no, i dont think so...11:14
Polly_MorfIf you add a dir to your $path variable (i don't know how, since I installed linux yesterday. I only read about it).11:16
Polly_Morfmaybe someone could helt11:16
Java_the_Huttcan anyone help me out for GPRS over bluetooth ?11:17
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kakeihey does kde have a 'shadow' option for windows?11:18
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AoPI think so kakei11:23
ShadymanHey guys, what kind of files can i put in ~/.kde/autostart?11:23
Polly_Morf.desktop files11:25
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ShadymanPolly_Morf: That's it?11:25
ShadymanPolly_Morf: No way to make sure one gets run before the other?11:25
Polly_Morfput a shellscript or something in there11:26
Polly_Morfdont know if it works11:26
Shadymanhmm doh!11:26
Shadymancommand: shell script lol11:26
Shadymanmakes sense.11:26
darkheartAnyone use yakuake and know how to make it transparent?11:26
Java_the_Huttcan anyone help me out for GPRS over bluetooth ?11:26
Polly_Morfdarkheart: rightclick select a different theme11:26
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Polly_Morfsettings -> schema -> transparent something11:27
darkheartPolly_Morf: LOL thank you.11:27
darkheartPolly_Morf: Man, that was so simple...I was looking around in the config files, stumped.11:27
Polly_Morfdarkheart: shit happens :P11:28
Elsan_Can anyone tell me how to get back the default Kubuntu colors? I changed them by error and want them back :(11:28
Polly_MorfElsan_: if nothing helpes: create a new account and take those colors. I changed my long ago11:28
ShadymanAny way to run more than one command in a .desktop file? a semicolon?11:29
Polly_Morftry adding several Exec=11:31
ShadymanPolly_Morf: ok11:32
Polly_Morfnope.-.. it doesnt work, Shadyman11:32
Polly_MorfShadyman: a semicolon11:33
Polly_MorfShadyman: trial and error11:33
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Elsan_Polly_Morf: Thanks11:33
ShadymanPolly_Morf: OK11:33
Elsan_Maybe someone can pack and sned me their colors...11:33
Polly_MorfElsan_ I might have them on another account.. wat 2 sec11:35
Polly_MorfElsan_: nope sorry... found nothing on kde-llok either11:36
Elsan_Polly_Morf: Thanks anyway!11:36
Elsan_Can anyone pack the default Kubuntu colors(System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors -> Save Model) as a .kcsrc and send the file to me please?11:38
Polly_Morfum no... nothing11:40
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Java_the_Huttanyone can help me with PPPD options and scripts ?11:57
bam_save a file in vi anyone?11:58
bam_mn...founf it11:59
Java_the_Huttbam found it ?12:00
Java_the_Hutttry :w12:00
bam_i noticed my kubuntu using nano as the default editor?12:02

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