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pipegeekHi.  So, I just plugged in a new monitor and booted up my machine, and for some reason, kdm now insists on running the x server at 640x480@60Hz--even after logging into KDE, it's impossible to set the resolution higher (640x480 is listed as the highest possible in kcontrol).  If I start X by hand, it still defaults to 1200x1024.  Why is this happening, and how can I force kdm to use a different resolution?12:07
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Shadymanpipegeek: You'd have to set the higher resolution(s) in the X11/X.conf or whatever it's called.12:08
xtacocorexsudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg12:08
xtacocorexpipegeek: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg12:08
xtacocorexpipegeek: that might work, but i have a laptop so i'm not totally sure on it12:08
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pipegeekActually, they're already set there.  And, if I run X by hand from the command line, they're available.  They're only unavailable when kdm manages my x session12:09
pipegeekxtacocorex: thanks for the suggestion, though.12:11
xtacocorexpipegeek: at least it was an idea, sorry i couldn't help more12:11
pipegeekxtacocorex: no prob12:12
_joshuahi can someone help me with this12:12
_joshuaWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! gstreamer0.8-mad12:13
_joshuais that ok/usual ?12:13
pipegeekDo you have a non-ubuntu repository in your /etc/apt/sources.list?12:13
pipegeekThat's probably why.  Ubuntu uses gpg-signed packages.  You need either to import the key of the person/project who runs the non-ubuntu repository in question (man apt-key) or just deal with the warning.  It's a pain, but it is for a good reason ^_^12:15
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_joshuapipegeek: so would you advise yes or no12:16
HymnToLifeanyone has an idea why nothing happens when I click the "Administrator mode" in KDE 3.4's system settings ?12:18
HymnToLifeI have the password prompt, type my password an then nothing12:19
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xstDamn, tried to update to kde35 but got the following apt-get error:12:22
xstErrors were encountered while processing:12:22
xst /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-kresources_4%3a3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy2_i386.deb12:22
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SirKillalothow do I get the treeview in konqueror on the leftern side?12:27
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billhsorry about that12:29
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starscalling* Topic for #kubuntu is: Happy New Year! | Dapper Flight 2 out | KDE 3.5 is out http://tinyurl.com/dlrf9 (the KPDF problem is fixed in the latest packages) | Breezy fixes in breezy-updates | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de | Please don't paste into the channel:  use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | IRC info and channels in other languages: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat12:30
starscalling* Topic for #kubuntu set by apokryphos at Sun Jan  1 06:29:51 200612:30
billhyeah, I just wanted to get the /topic information and I ended up setting it.12:30
starscallingdam ops12:30
billhyeah, sorry about that.12:30
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billhops would help protect that12:30
starscallingwas just comparing12:31
starscallingwait its not protected?12:31
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ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth12:31
starscallingsomeone protect the topic plz lol12:31
billhI'm mostly trying to get an apt line to upgrade my Debian unstable system12:31
starscallingdebian unstable?12:32
starscallingthats um12:32
starscallingnot ubuntu12:32
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/12:32
starscallingtry #debian12:32
SirKillalotdoes anyone know how to get that side bar on konqueror showing a treeview of the local folders?12:32
naliothstarscalling: ?12:32
starscallingnalioth, someone forgot to protect the topic12:32
starscallinganyone can change it or so12:32
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starscallingkewl thx12:32
billhI'm hoping that a fresh installation without base-config could be moved to Ubuntu easily12:32
naliothstarscalling: in here it's !kops12:33
starscallingo: ok sorry12:33
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starscallingbillh, why do that?12:33
naliothstarscalling: np, just makes no sense to rattle the cages of non operational folks12:33
crimsunbillh: crossgrades are difficult at this point.12:33
starscallingtry it by all means im curious too12:33
starscallingnalioth, yeah didnt realize it wasnt the same group/... never seen the command done in here... will try to remember12:33
starscallingin fact i WILL remember :)12:34
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starscallingcrimsun, what if he did a server install of etch then did ubuntu dapper sources hehe12:34
starscallingand did pinning b/t them12:34
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crimsunetch has a "server" target?12:35
starscallingyeah think so..12:35
starscallinggot the disk somewhere...12:35
starscallinglets find out!!!!12:35
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starscallinggood thing i got 2 comps and dont care much about most of the data hehe12:35
billhcrimsun yeah, I know. I'm trying out a trick since I don't have a Ubuntu CD image12:35
starscallingwhy not just get the image billh ?12:36
billhThis still has got the raw libc without the libc6 upgrade. That blew me out before.12:36
billhstarscalling I don't want to screw out with moving the DVD burner around.12:36
triodehello, I'm looking for suggestions on CAD software for linux (something like an AutoCAD substitute), any idea on where to look?12:36
starscallinggot another compy with a cd burner then?12:36
billhno, not readily at hand12:37
starscallinghow about um..12:37
starscallingmeh lets just see what happens lol12:37
billhthis has a possibility of working. What killed me last night was libc6 being downgraded12:37
starscallinglet me boot that one up and ill backup my data12:37
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starscallingcouldnt u tell it to force the downgrade?12:37
starscallingor uninstall that one package etc?12:38
billhno downgrades no more from this installation12:38
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billhHmm, same problem12:38
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starscallingseems ive got ~25gigs of stuff to back up12:47
starscallinggimme 30 minutes billh12:47
ubotufrom memory, commands is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/12:49
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billhstarscalling don't worry about it. I'll just install Debian and move to Kubuntu after burning the image.12:50
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tdmgokay, now, I installed Breezy, but I still can't update Wine12:54
tdmghow do I update it?12:54
Steilis anyone here familiar with what amaroK does to media files when transferring to an ipod, and if theres anyway to change the settings so that it will transfer faster? (right now it's taking over an hour to transfer 50 songs)12:54
hyperactivecrondtdmg: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:54
hyperactivecrondSteil: /join #amarok12:54
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xstHow do I uninstall a theme in superkaramba?12:54
tdmgI did that crond12:54
tdmgnow Kubuntu is all nice and pretty :)12:54
hyperactivecrondtdmg: define update wine?12:55
tdmgand I thank you for that12:55
tdmgI have version 2005073512:55
tdmgbut they say that version is alpha12:55
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tdmgand that there is a beta version to update to12:55
hyperactivecrondtdmg: do you have the wine deb?12:56
tdmgbut Adept doesn't see any12:56
tdmgwine-dev you mean?12:56
tdmgbecause I don't have wine-dev12:56
hyperactivecrond!tell tdmg about deb12:57
hyperactivecrondinstallation file that ends in .deb12:57
tdmgI'm not sure12:57
tdmghow would I find out?12:57
Hobbseetha'ts a very old deb of wine....12:57
hyperactivecronddid you download it12:58
tdmgI'm not sure12:58
tdmgI can't remember12:58
Hobbseetdmg: did you ever try http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb ?12:58
tdmgI installed it when I did a package spree after installing Kubuntu12:58
Hobbseehttp://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/breezy/wine_0.9.4-winehq-1_i386.deb is probably the .deb you want12:59
Hobbseelooks like that's the latest12:59
Hobbseeyou might need http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/breezy/libwine_0.9.4-winehq-1_all.deb as well01:00
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tdmgit seems to be working01:09
tdmgI had to edit the repository myself01:09
hyperactivecrondsudo mount -o loop testhda /mnt   ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy   mount: you must specify the filesystem type01:09
tdmgthankfully I remembered how without needing the GUI01:09
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billhSorry, to ask again, but what are peoples experience with kubuntu under amd64 ?01:09
billhIs it stable ?01:10
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hyperactivecrondany ideas for this error?01:10
Hobbseehyperactivecrond: i would have thought it was fairly obvious - you have to specify the file type...01:11
apokryphosbillh: perfect, yup.01:11
hyperactivecrondHobbsee: no... that is very obsoleted01:11
billhapachelogger so cbsnews.com works under Kubuntu ?01:12
billhthat immediately crashes Konqueor for me under amd6401:12
Hobbseehyperactivecrond: it looks like the syntax is incorrect anyway01:12
hyperactivecrondit doesn't matter01:12
Hobbseewhere do you want it mounted, what file type is the drive, and which partition do you want mounted?01:13
hyperactivecrondsudo mount testhda /mnt -o loop01:13
apacheloggerbillh: works here ;-)01:13
hyperactivecrondsame error01:13
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hyperactivecrondHobbsee: it probably can't get mounted01:13
hyperactivecrondbut this error comes up on ISOs01:13
Hobbseei would think you can mount iso's -iso9600 or something is the file type01:14
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hyperactivecrondHobbsee: it works if you modprobe loop (isos01:14
Hobbseeah ok01:14
hyperactivecrondbut qemu images wont01:15
billhapachelogger just to be sure, this is amd64 right ?01:15
billhok, well, that's my question.01:16
apacheloggerwhy should it crash on 64bit?01:17
billhapokryphos is this under amd64 ?01:17
apokryphosbillh: what?01:17
billhbecause KDE and other programs weren't running with consideration on 64 bit platforms01:17
billhapokryphos are you running kubuntu on amd64 ?01:18
apokryphosbillh: yes, but not at the moment (on another computer).01:18
billhand that'll load cbsnews.com ?01:18
apokryphosbillh: what are you having problems with?01:18
billhI was having problem with amd64 Debian unstable crashing konqueror under amd6401:18
billhand I was wondering if Kubuntu was more stable about this stuff01:19
billhif not, then I'll have to move to a 32 bit OS/kernel instead.01:19
apokryphosloads fine01:19
apokryphosubuntu has very good 64-bit support01:19
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apokryphosbillh: what kde version are you running?01:20
billhso thumbs up for Kubuntu under amd64 then, right ?01:20
billhoh 3.501:20
hyperactivecrondubuntu != debian debian != ubuntu01:20
apokryphoswithout a doubt, yes.01:20
hyperactivecrond+1 for amd64 Kubuntu01:20
billhsome experimental version I guess. It was crashing the X server as well, corrupting bitmaps.01:21
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billhthe crashes I was seeing with KDE under Debian amd64 was nasty01:22
hyperactivecronddebian is supposed to be stable, too...01:22
billhguess not01:22
apokryphostheir 3.5 surely wasn't in stable01:22
billhI was using unstable, but it didn't seem that folks cared about fixing the bugs, so I'm hopping to another distribution.01:23
billhDebian is generally pretty good about keeping a stable system, but...01:23
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billhhow do I reconfigure the locale ?01:34
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odathello everyone01:36
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apokryphosbillh: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?01:37
mabelkde camera/photo app?01:37
apokryphosmabel: for grabbing pics from your camera, or for handling your photos from your cam?01:38
mabelapokryphos: well both - kamera is supposed to handle grabbing - yes? it doesn't support my camera - but my camera has mass storage devicemode..01:38
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mabeli also want something similar to gthumb01:38
mabelnot too fond of digikam01:39
apokryphosI think it's meant to, yes, but never used it01:39
apokryphosdigikam is really quite good :)01:39
mabelhm ok01:39
apokryphoslittle tools like the red-eye reduction (which actually works) are quite handy01:39
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odathello everyone01:44
odatwas hoping for some insight my intrigue with kde01:44
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apokryphosodat: fire away01:45
odatapokryphos, i am a gnome user and like it very much however i want to make sure i'm not being stubbornly stupid and misses out on great things with kde01:46
odatapokryphos, i have tried kde in the past and have always come back to gnome but i'm not sure if i'm making the right choice01:47
apokryphosodat: simple to answer -- you are :P01:47
_mattimho kde is very good01:47
apokryphosodat: KDE is typically more customizable and has better integration01:47
odatapokryphos, ok that doesn't do it for me    I mean why am I01:47
_matti cant wait until kde 401:47
odatapokryphos, also gnome to me seems to be easier to use01:48
apokryphosodat: why do you go back to gnome, you mean?01:48
apokryphosgnome does typically aim to be more simplistic01:48
apokryphosand to the extent that they've done it, I think it a very bad thing (I agree with Linus here, you see, to an extent)01:48
odatapokryphos, well i'm not sure why i'm not comfortable with kde so i'm not sure if that gets in the way of me giving it a chance01:49
_matti find the intergration between apps better in kde01:49
apokryphosodat: I think you need to give it a little time. And, most importantly -- play around with it :)01:49
odatapokryphos, of course then again i was a die hard Mac user for years and years so maybe that is why gnome is more comfortable01:49
apokryphosgo into all sorts of things and get to grips of how it works. KDE is high on consistency :)01:49
apokryphosI would've thought KDE would be more comfortable to a mac user, but hey 8)01:50
_mattapokrphos - i agree01:50
odatapokryphos, honest kde is much more mac like01:50
apokryphos_matt: integration is one of the greatest things about it. It's the first hting you notice when you go back to Win -- absolutely none.01:50
darkheartLinus recommends KDE!01:50
apokryphosodat: I would've thought so01:50
odatdarkheart, lol yea that is what got me thinking about it again lol01:51
apokryphosKDE has a far larger market and more developers, too, note.01:51
darkheartodat: =) I just saw that yesterday haha.01:51
odatapokryphos, hmmmm kde i suppose reminds me so much of windows01:51
apokryphosof course that doesn't necessarily make it better, but it gives it an advantage.01:51
odatdarkheart, ?01:51
apokryphosodat: I always find that criticism weird 8)01:51
darkheartodat: That 'Linux recommends KDE' thing, just saw it yesterday.01:51
_matti think that as long as we all use linux rather than windows, we are all winners!01:51
apokryphosI always thought it was just something gnome users would say because it has one panel, wait....... just like Windoze!!!01:52
_mattand coporations like ms are the loosers01:52
apokryphosdarkheart: quite controversial, yup. I found it funny when I found out he posted that on a *gnome usability board*01:52
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odat_matt, very true man being a mac user for so many years and then giving linux a try my attitude towards windows is downright awful01:52
apokryphostalk about a troll :P01:52
odatapokryphos, now what about the system resources thing?01:53
apokryphosodat: my advice: switch to kde and stick with it for a while. Look around in systemsetings, really play with a few KDE apps (amarok, konversation, k3b, konqueror, kate, filelight, digikam), have a whack around with DCOP, then make up your mind =)01:54
apokryphosodat: bit of a myth01:54
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darkheartapokryphos: LOL yeah, I wouldn't have thought of Linus as a troll, but hey, I guess if you made it, you can troll wherever you want =P01:54
apokryphosthat's a "Why KDE rules" article -- conversion from a longtime gnome user.01:55
odatapokryphos, just got done reading that lol01:55
apokryphosdarkheart: hehe01:55
_mattapokryphos - I was just about to past that link!01:55
_mattits a good link!01:55
apokryphosthe guy has a weird arguing style, but I think it'd appeal to gnome users01:55
apokryphosas it addressess pretty much all the same points I hear time and time again01:56
odatapokryphos, i was wondering why it seems kde tries to get you to use all of their alternative programs  opposed to some already great one?01:56
_mattyes, but i did agree with one comment, that he starts off with negatives01:56
apokryphosodat: alternative?01:56
apokryphos_matt: it's a good speech style, but not when it's overdone.01:56
apokryphosodat: not sure what you mean01:57
odatwell instead of firefox use konqueror , instead of open office, koffice, instead of gaim, kopete, etc etc01:57
_mattodat, I think that the programs kde uses intergrate well01:57
apokryphosodat: note that gnome has gnome-office, too01:57
darkheartodat: KDE has a lot of integration, so those programs have a lot of usefulness01:57
apokryphosodat: kopete was around before gaim, I believe.01:57
_mattthe other programs do not intergrate as well01:57
_mattalthough im a gaim fan!01:58
apokryphosand KHTML is a lot better than Gecko (what Firefox uses)01:58
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rolandpls help01:58
_matthi roland!01:58
apokryphosbut the key is that Konqueror has its applications, and this strengthens its integration01:58
darkheartI really liked kopete (tried it this weekend), but it doesn't support file transfers =\01:58
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rolandif i have kubuntu 5.1001:58
apokryphosdarkheart: on msn, irc and jabber it does01:58
apokryphosnot on the others yet though unfortunately01:58
rolandcan i upgrade binary to kde 3.5?01:58
odatapokryphos, i know konqueror has Apple helping out quite a bit but there seems to be so much support for firefox01:58
apokryphos!tell roland about kde 3.501:58
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darkheartapokryphos: Okay, I read about the MSN support, didn't know about the other 2, but I was not able to get a transfer working this weekend on MSN account when gaim didn't seem to have trouble.01:59
apokryphosodat: Apple only took it on because KHTML was better as it was (even though most Safari devs were more experienced with gecko, I might add)01:59
darkheartNot that big of a deal though haha, don't really care about IM file transfers.01:59
apokryphosodat: note that Nokia are using KHTML now too =)01:59
_mattyes KHTML seems to be taking off!01:59
apokryphosdarkheart: weird, it should work. Sometimes port forwarding helps.01:59
_jasonhey.. does anyone know of a simple socket passthrough util that will throttle bandwidth?02:00
visik7someone using kopete ?02:00
apokryphosnearly everyone :P02:00
visik7I've got some diconnection problem with msn network02:00
_matti use kopete!02:00
darkheartapokryphos: That may have been it, but apparently gaim doesn't seem to mind if that port isn't explicitly listed. Oh well =)02:00
apokryphosodat: Kopete is more advanced than gaim now, too, easily. Webcam suport is great 8)02:00
odatwhats the real deal with QT02:00
apokryphos(at least for msn protocol, that is)02:00
darkheartOkay, I gotta get home. Off work =) have a great night everyone.02:00
rolandwhat kernel does kubuntu 5.10 use?02:00
apokryphosdarkheart: yup, interesting.02:00
visik7roland: 2.6.1202:01
apokryphosodat: what deal? He covers the nonsensical "Qt's not Free" business02:01
visik7roland: plus some patches02:01
odatapokryphos, webcam support for msn? correct? which is only for older version os msn messenger02:01
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rolandkubuntu is good to be run on a server machine?02:01
rolanda smp one02:01
apokryphosodat: huhh?02:01
apokryphosroland: sure02:01
visik7roland: it has an smp kernel compiled yes02:01
rolandok thanks02:02
odatapokryphos, thats what i discovered when i install kopete the other night02:02
rolandim trying it out now.. download is almost finished02:02
_matthas anyone installed flight 2 dapper drake?02:02
odatqt could come back to haunt kde though02:02
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_matti dont think qt will come back to haunt kde02:02
apokryphosodat: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/licensing.html02:02
apokryphosodat: hm, it doesn't mention it there, but Qt will permanently be GPL, even if Trolltech no longer owns it.02:03
_mattapokryphos - thats the second time you beat me to a link!02:03
_mattapokryphos - whats your background?02:03
apokryphos_matt: on which desktop? ;-)02:04
apokryphosaha, here http://kdemyths.urbanlizard.com/myth/1302:04
odatthis line doesn't scare anyone? But if you write closed source software you may not use the Qt free edition02:04
_mattyou seem to know a lot about kde, r u a developer?02:04
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apokryphosodat: welcome to GPL02:04
_matthow long us been a fan of kde?02:04
flipjargdoes kubuntu have a graphical install?02:04
apokryphos_matt: just over a year02:05
odatapokryphos, how do you mean?02:05
apokryphosflipjarg: nope02:05
_matthi flipjarg!02:05
odatapokryphos, basic liscensing guidelines?02:05
apokryphosodat: GPL software doesn't let you close up your source after, too.02:05
_matttry sony - rootkit!  they tried it!02:05
_mattusing gpl in close source!02:05
apokryphosodat: I quite like the licensing in a way. It ensures that people who don't care for the open source community use Qt and pay (hence giving some money for Qt, who *do* give back to the open source community -- the sponsor kde devs and the like)02:06
apokryphosflipjarg: it is a very easy install, however.02:06
apokryphosThey're hoping to go graphical for Dapper, but who konws.02:06
_mattapokryphos - i agree, i think that works the best way - it gives the developers money and opensource some great software02:06
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billhI'm happy, no to see if it boots02:07
odatapokryphos, is that same type of agreement in place for gtk?02:07
apokryphosodat: no02:07
_mattbillh are you trying to install kubuntu>02:07
billhfrom the CD images02:08
_mattare you from a windows or linux background?02:08
flipjargapokyphos: easier then gentoo02:08
rolandim trying now too02:08
visik7is there a way to tell kopete to autoreconnect on disconnect ?02:08
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billh_matt hard core Linux all of the way dude. :)02:08
apokryphosflipjarg: you can't even compare it to a gentoo install02:08
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apokryphosflipjarg: it takes half an hour for me, here (Ubuntu install), and a zillion times easier.02:08
flipjargapokyphos: oh man, i just tried to install gentoo and threw away the disk02:08
_mattwell billh - i hope you like Kubuntu then!02:08
odatif gnome is losing so bad to kde then why are there so many gtk programs and support for gnome like with the distributions of ubuntu?02:08
apokryphosflipjarg: gentoo is a mess =)02:09
flipjargapokryphos: thank you. i think i'll try kubuntu now :-)02:09
billhyeah, Debian's KDE is killing me.02:09
apokryphosflipjarg: as a note, you can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicks in IRC :)02:09
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apokryphosodat: gnome is alive and kicking, it's just not nearly as big as KDE (developer and user-wise). Competition and variety is good, I think. :)02:09
flipjargapokryphos, oh cool, thank you :-)02:10
odatapokryphos, hmmm this is tougher than i thought lol02:10
apokryphosodat: some people (i.e. TUX Magazine) maintain that GNOME's market is decreasing, and KDE's increasing, but I wouldn't trust most statistics02:11
tdmgguys, I want to get Wine 0.9.3 but Adept defaults to 0.9.4 which is buggy, how do I change this?02:11
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apokryphosodat: big thing about gnome is when they switched to metacity as the WM. They lost quite a few users there, but more importantly they lost some of their most valuable.02:11
apokryphosthe KISS attitude was taken a bit too far, I'd say, unfortunately.02:12
apokryphosyou don't need to sacrifice options for usability, necessarily :). KDE's usability is on the permanent uprise, as it is.02:12
apokryphos(Trolltech employ a full-time kde dev specifically for usability)02:12
rolandi dont have a cd burning package with a GUI to burn my kubuntu iso image easily in slackware :(02:13
GeckoWhat packages do I need to install (and is there a metapackage?) for compiling kde apps?02:13
_mattapolryphos - do you know if they are shipping kubuntu CD's yet?02:13
apokryphos_matt: they're not, currently, but hopefully they will be for dapper.02:14
apokryphossee http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-commitment.php02:14
apokryphosGecko: you need the KDE includes for building any KDE app, but for each app you'll probably need a few other things too02:14
apokryphosGecko: you can resolve dependencies, however, with build-dep.02:16
=== apokryphos thanks the Lord for build-dep 8)
Gecko:) Thanks02:17
Hobbseehehe so true02:17
tdmgcan anyone help me?02:18
tdmgI don't want the newest Wine02:18
tdmgit's all buggy02:18
tdmgbut Adept won't allow me to do anything else02:18
crimsunwhich version?02:18
tdmgI want 0.9.302:18
odatapokryphos, k lets say i install kubuntu along side of ubuntu and eventually want to get rid of ubuntu how do i get it entirely off my system without a fresh install02:18
tdmgbut it will only download 0.9.402:19
crimsunthen take deb-src for whatever version you want and compile it02:19
tdmgI don't see how to pick which version I want off the wine website :-/02:19
crimsunno, use Ubuntu's deb-src02:20
tdmgcan you link me up?02:20
Geckoapokryphos, no package named build-dep here...02:20
tdmgthanks :D02:20
tdmgthey don't have 0.9.302:21
tdmgjust 0.9.4 :(02:21
crimsunwe didn't package 0.9.302:21
apokryphos!tell Gecko about build-dep02:21
tdmgand then they have 20050725, but that doesn't work either02:21
tdmgso, can I compile it on my own?02:22
apokryphosodat: you can use debfoster, or you can remove some critical Qt pack02:22
crimsunyou're responsible for breaking your own system, of course02:22
tdmgokay :D02:22
tdmgcould you help me through it though?02:22
crimsunapt-get build-dep wine02:22
odatapokryphos, to get entirely rid of gnome?02:22
crimsungrab source, generate a deb.02:23
apokryphosodat: for gnome you could use debfoster or remove some vital gtk pack02:23
tdmghow do I make sure the source is from the right version?02:23
odatapokryphos, with dependcies that remove everything?02:24
apokryphosodat: things that depend on it, yes.02:24
tdmgI found the source02:24
Geckoapokryphos, wow, I have been a debian user since potato was fresh out of the oven, and I haven't even heard about that before... :(02:24
=== tdmg downloads
crimsuntdmg: source version doesn't really matter.02:24
apokryphosGecko: it's very unknown, unfortunately; but very handy :)02:24
tdmgwell, I got the right one anyway :)02:25
Geckoapokryphos, indeed it is02:25
apokryphosGecko: the downside of course is that it doesn't work for packs that aren't in the repo at all (or if the newer version you're compiling has different depends)02:25
apokryphosbut then again the repos for debian-basted systems are huge, and depends don't always change between versions. And never too dramatically.02:25
tdmgcrimsun, I have the source code.....now what do I do?02:27
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Geckoapokryphos, I know. I found out, but that wasn't a problem. I just picked any advanced kde program and took it from there...02:28
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crimsuntdmg: follow the instructions in the source code's README*, INSTALL, etc.02:30
tdmgI found it already02:31
tdmgthanks though :D02:31
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odatapokryphos, well thanx for the chat02:32
odatapokryphos, however like you have a belief and comfort with kde  as do I with Gnome so I guess because of us things will just keep getting better :)02:34
apokryphosperhaps, sure02:34
odatapokryphos, besides i am responsible for quite a few new linux users right now which are all using ubuntu  / gnome and i am there tech guy and they are learning linux and gnome is better suited for them. Also I can't switch it up on them now or I risk losing them back to windows02:35
apokryphosif it's better suited for them, then they (and you) should stick with it. Go for whatever you prefer; that's why we have variety :)02:36
_mattanything but changing back to windows02:37
apokryphosif it's not better suited for them, however :D02:37
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odatapokryphos, here here   but i enjoyed the talk and kde is far from out of my mind    however I don't believe now is a good time for me and the others  I am a fairly new linux user too and honestly thanks to gnome I am a permant linux user. Kde just didn't give me that why i tried it a bunch of times02:38
odathowever that is just me i'm sure other people have the opposite experience02:39
_joshuame too02:39
odatits also refreshing knowing i can come in this room a gnome user and its all good02:39
apokryphossure, I'm obviously not offended :P02:39
odatthats just cool02:39
_matti use kde because i tried knoppix firsy02:39
apokryphosodat: well, of course :)02:39
odatapokryphos, i get tired of explaining sometime why there needs to be different people with different taste  some people just don't get it02:40
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_joshuawindows user as of 6 weeks ago02:40
apokryphosodat: we're all different ;-)02:41
odatapokryphos, i was actually downloading the packages to kubuntu and then canceled it and said to myself I've done this before and I go back to gnome . I'm a gnome user and that is just the way it is. I actually was happy to come to that conclusion and be fine with it :) .lolol02:42
apokryphosodat: I won't force anymore on it to you now, then. You have to promise that you'll try out KDE 4, though ;-)02:43
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odatapokryphos, you weren't forcing anything thats why i enjoyed the conversation and I will not be closed minded to kde ever either lol02:44
_mattyer kde4 looks cool02:44
_joshuawhen will it be released02:45
_mattoctober 2006 - i think02:45
apokryphosmost predictions say late October02:45
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_matti want it sooner!02:46
apokryphoshehe, we all do *)02:46
apokryphosa lot of porting and work to be done, though02:46
ubotuI heard midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo02:46
_matthave you done any work to help with the porting?02:46
_joshuacan anyone tell me whats wrong with this command dpkg -L bitchx grep | bin02:46
_joshuaits not working02:46
_joshuait used to02:46
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apokryphos_matt: very few devs dare to touch trunk/, even now. Porting is done by a only a few of the best 8)02:47
crimsun_joshua: | grep02:47
crimsunnot grep |02:47
_matti wish i was good enought to help!02:47
_joshuabin first02:47
crimsun_joshua: no, foo |grep bin02:48
murph2481alright newbie needs some help....02:48
murph2481I cannot open hda2 from my media folder in Konqueror (its my windows partition)02:49
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murph2481how can i fix it so i can open it02:49
_matthi murph2481 - is it an NTFS?02:49
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murph2481_matt : yes it is02:49
billhThis install of kubuntu also crashes on cbsnews.com02:50
murph2481_matt: i can see it in /media...but it has a lock on it02:50
fckheadshelp pls.. k3b says writing cd.. but nothing happens in the progress bar and its 15 minutes past... the cdwr is working hard but i dont know what to do now...02:50
fckheadswriting kubuntu iso02:50
fckheadson slackware 10.202:50
billhKDE here also bombs out the X server, bah02:50
_mattmurph - have you gone into system settings?02:50
murph2481_matt: where exactly would you like me to go?02:50
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_mattmurph - go into system settings02:51
visik7do you got crashes from kde 3.5 ?02:51
visik7kicker and kwin02:51
_mattthen disk & filesystems02:51
_mattmurph2481 have you been able to go into disk & filesystems?02:52
murph2481_matt: thank you that did it :)02:53
KnowerrorsAre there any konqueror based web browsers for linux? (not konqueror) , like a specialized version only for web, not filebrowsing02:53
murph2481next question....anyone try running galleon 2.0.1 ? i cannot get it to work with Dapper Flight 202:54
_mattok murph2481 - glad to help!02:54
visik7Knowerrors: kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing02:54
_mattim using dapper flight 2 also - have you had any problems with it?02:54
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murph2481_matt: nothing to date...it even recognizes my atheros 108 super G wireless card :)02:55
murph2481_matt: except I have to manually start it every time i boot up02:55
_mattsame here!02:55
billhunfortunately, kubuntu has the same problems as Debian unstable :|02:56
murph2481_matt: yea go to kwifi and enable and jump to konsole and dhclient?02:56
_matthowever, i found that when starting network connections, it asks what distro i am using02:56
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_mattif i tick remember what distro i am using, it will never connect using wifi02:56
_mattthen i have to reinstall02:56
Knowerrorsvisik7: I want something thats seperate from konqueror02:57
murph2481yea i just got rid of knoppix 4.0 because it was the only one to use my wireless card02:57
murph2481but dapper flight 2 works just fine :)02:57
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_mattmurph2481 I was using knoppix before dapper02:57
Knowerrorsvisik7: it bugs me that if I have a toolbar on in filebrowsing mode, then it also shows in webbrowsing mode, no way Ive found around this02:58
visik7Knowerrors: doesn't exists but I think that it's easy to write one using kparts :)02:58
visik7Knowerrors: or just use firefox02:58
Knowerrorsyeah, firefox is too dang slow, and uses alot of resources, with multiple tabs open02:58
KnowerrorsI like ff better feature wise though02:59
visik7I don't feel firefox so slow02:59
HobbseeKnowerrors: 1.0.7 or 1.5?02:59
=== apokryphos likes Opera best feature-wise :)
Hobbseeyeah, well...lol02:59
visik7apokryphos: yes but ff has extensions02:59
naliothRiddell: if i put "deb-src http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" in my pbuilderrc will i get source pkgs?02:59
KnowerrorsIve gotten 90% cpu usage sometimes on FF with only 4 tabs open02:59
_mattagain i agree with apokryphos - i like opera the best!02:59
Knowerrorsapokryphos: and opera doesn't render proper with all websites, though its got the fastest performance03:00
visik7nalioth: if there are sources yes03:00
_darkheartYay, I'm back.03:00
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apokryphosKnowerrors: KHTML does, actually, benchmark tests show.03:00
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apokryphosOpera's pretty standard compliant, but not so much as Konqueror, again.03:00
Riddellnalioth: should do03:00
darkheart_I've got a slight issue w/ kdm. It seems whenever I log out, it drops me to a console screen and I have to restart kdm each time to log back in. Any ideas?03:01
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naliothRiddell: well, i 'think' i've finally got the pbuilder thing working, and am currently tryin to build arts03:01
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Riddellshouldn't need anything from that archive for arts03:01
KnowerrorsHobbsee: is FF 1.5 alot faster?03:01
HobbseeKnowerrors: yes03:02
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naliothRiddell: you gave me a build order for kde 3.5, arts is the first thing, no?03:02
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HobbseeKnowerrors: especially if you create a nice user.js file to go with it03:02
darkheart_I would use Opera also, but it's the extensions that keep me using Firefox...I have trouble browsing w/o mouse gestures haha.03:02
tdmgguys, I just compiled the Wine source code03:03
tdmgbut it doesn't seem to have installed03:03
tdmgI didn't get any error messages03:03
tdmgit just seems like nothing has happened03:03
tdmgcould someone help me out?03:04
darkheart_tdmg: Compiling != installing.03:04
tdmgI compiled03:04
tdmgand made installed03:04
tdmgI followed the directions03:04
blktiger<-- having problem with fresh install and apt03:04
darkheart_did you make install as root? Or use sudo?03:04
tdmgI used sudo03:04
darkheart_!tell blktiger about repositories03:04
Riddellnalioth: yes03:04
naliothRiddell: packages.ubuntu.com says breezy arts is 1.4, and i'm currently showing 1.5 being built03:04
tdmgsomething wrong with that?03:05
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darkheart_tdmg: No, nothing wrong =) just making sure I know what you did.03:05
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darkheart_tdmg: If you wanted a system-wide install, you had to use sudo ;)03:05
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tdmgthese are the directions I followed:03:05
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darkheart_tdmg: Can I ask why you didn't use the repositories?03:05
blktigerif I do a fresh install and have not changed apt repos at all... why does app upgrade die on foomatic-filters-ppsd?03:05
Riddellnalioth: sounds like success then03:05
_mattwell its 2:00 uk time so its goodnight from me - girls and boys!03:06
tdmgdarkhear_ the repositories only had version 0.9.403:06
_mattanyone else from UK?03:06
tdmgwhich is buggy03:06
tdmgI got the source for 0.9.3 which is clean03:06
Riddell_matt: yes03:06
darkheart_tdmg: Okay, good enough reason for me, just making sure there wasn't an easier solution to your problem.03:06
KnowerrorsSo is there a way to make konq web browser mode only display certain toolbar and menu items? permanently03:06
_matthi riddell - where you from mate?03:07
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naliothRiddell: providing this all works, where and whom do i send it to?03:07
tdmgnah, the repositories work fine, but that version doesn't03:07
tdmgso, what do you think might be wrong?03:07
Riddellnalioth: what are you compiling and why?03:07
apokryphos_matt: London here =)03:07
darkheart_tdmg: Right, I get that part. So did you uninstall the repository version before you installed the compiled source?03:07
_mattok Nothampton here!03:07
_mattnight - guys!03:08
tdmgI uninstalled it, yes03:08
darkheart_Anyone have any clue why kdm would drop me to console after I logout? It seems to drop me to terminal 7 or 8 (which X should be running on), and I can't get it back up unless I restart it.03:09
darkheart_tdmg: Okay, so what happens when you run 'wine somewindowsprogram'?03:09
naliothRiddell: i'm trying to compile kde 3.5 in a pbuilder for my ppc brethren03:09
naliothRiddell: should i be doing it in a dapper pbuilder?03:09
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tdmgwine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:10
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Riddellnalioth: depends if you want them to be for breezy or dapper03:10
Riddellamu already has packages for ppc at http://kubuntu.org/~amu/pool/03:10
naliothRiddell: you currently have no ppc binaries for 3.503:10
naliothRiddell: well, that is not well known03:11
tdmgdarkheart_ that's what I got03:11
naliothso i'm recreating things already done03:11
darkheart_tdmg: =\ That sucks....You're sure there are no errors during the 'sudo make install'?03:11
apokryphosnalioth: I did mention that amu might've had some packs :)03:11
naliothRiddell: why isnt that info listed on the kubuntu 3.5 release announcement page?03:12
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tdmgdarkheart_ I didn't see any errors, and it didn't end with any errors03:12
darkheart_Would be nice if you could move windows around in the pager =)03:12
kalenedraelGNOME lets you do that. :P03:12
tdmgit just ended with:03:12
apokryphosyou can :)03:12
tdmg./tools/mkinstalldirs -m 755 /usr/local/share/aclocal03:12
tdmg/usr/bin/install -c  -m 644  ./aclocal.m4 /usr/local/share/aclocal/wine.m403:12
Riddellnalioth: amu asked for testing on the mailing list but he's not told me yet he's happy for them to go in the main kubuntu archive, you'll need to poke him to do so03:12
naliothRiddell: so my efforts aren't needed?03:13
apokryphosRiddell: he should advertise in here, too :)03:13
apokryphosdarkheart: not on 3.5?03:13
darkheart_tdmg: Yeah, I mean, I guess it would have had to install correctly for you to be able to run the wine binary....Maybe run an ldconfig?03:13
darkheart_apokryphos: No, this is on Breezy version of KDE (3.4?)03:13
apokryphosdarkheart_: upgrade to latest stable, then :)03:14
apokryphos!kde 3.503:14
ubotusomebody said kde 3.5 was at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php03:14
darkheart_apokryphos: Thanks =)03:14
tdmgwhat's an idconfig?03:14
Riddellnalioth: you'd need to coordinate with amu03:14
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darkheart_tdmg: It's an 'L', ldconfig. It sets up the links for your libraries.03:14
billhMy kubuntu installation didn't configure a root account. Is this normal ?03:15
tdmgI have know clue what that is or how to do it......03:15
seth_k|lappybillh, indeed it is03:15
darkheart_!tell billh about root03:15
seth_k|lappybillh, Kubuntu uses "sudo" by default... there is no root account.03:15
billhvery good03:15
Swedish_Chefthere is a root account, it's just disabled by default03:16
billhyeah, it's not a bad idea by many people's measure03:16
billhOS X does this as well03:16
KnowerrorsHobbsee: "nice user.js file" got any example links of good ones?03:16
Hobbseeanythign that makes firefox render quicker03:16
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darkheart_Yes, prevents a lot of new users from shooting themselves in the genitalia.03:17
billhdarkheart and company thanks BTW03:17
darkheart_np billh03:17
HobbseeKnowerrors: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/488064 is what i use03:17
billhyeah, the only problem with kubuntu, and I'm starting to think it might be something else, is that I get the same KDE crashes under amd64 that I do under Debian unstable.03:17
billhThis is rather disturbing.03:17
billhcbsnews.com crashes 100 percent of the time.03:18
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apokryphosI will have to try that when I'm back on my amd6403:18
billhyeah, because this should be reported, but I can't really get into kubuntu development03:19
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darkheart_Okay, hopefully this upgrade works =)03:20
mcquaidhello, i'm trying to compile twinklephone (voip app) but getting an error: hecking for qmake... no03:20
mcquaidconfigure: error: Cannot find qmake in $QTDIR/bin.03:20
darkheart_moodin/yakuake/katapult...chew on that gnome.03:20
mcquaidi have all the qt dev files as far as i can see, and other kde apps compile fine03:20
blktigerfiles list file for package 'foomatic-filters-ppds' is misisng final newline    --  Anybody?03:20
apokryphosRiddell: when are you going to be interviewed by People Behind K? Stop evading! 8)03:21
xtacocorexuboto tell mcquaid about qmake03:21
xtacocorexmcquaid: can you search adept for it?03:21
darkheart_blktiger: This problem is occuring during a fresh install right?03:21
blktigeryes darkheart03:21
blktigerfirst apt upgrade03:21
blktigerreplaced sources.list with what uboto told me03:22
mcquaidstarscalling, i do have qmake in /usr/bin03:22
darkheart_blktiger: That's not good =\ Did you check the md5sum for the CD? (or did you get an official copy?)03:22
mcquaidnot sure what actually package provides it03:22
blktigerumm nope I used the kubuntu dvd03:22
blktigeri have official ubuntu cd03:22
darkheart_blktiger: oh...okay, so you have everything installed, but when you try to install something it doesn't work?03:22
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blktigeri get into kde fine.. when I tried to do the first apt upgrade to get patches etc.. died03:23
blktigercant remove foomatic because kubuntu-desktop depends on it03:23
darkheart_blktiger: You can always reinstall kubuntu-desktop after you remove it.03:23
blktigerhmm trying it03:24
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darkheart_apokryphos: Hmmm...I got errors trying to upgrade >_<03:24
dark|blueanyone know how to change the Shutdown/Logout picture(the one of the boring dragon)?03:24
blktigerwont let me removve it03:25
apokryphosdarkheart: pastebin away03:25
Riddellapokryphos: I have already interviewed myself for people behind KDE, but I have had good reasons not to publish it so far03:25
blktigergave me error03:25
Riddellsoon though03:25
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blktigeranyway to fix it or should I just reinstall.. if reinstall... is it better to do ubuntu and add kubuntu-desktop or what03:25
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blktiger<-- had no problem with standard ubuntu installs in the past03:26
blktigerbut quanta and fish rule03:26
darkheart_apokryphos: Where would I find errors from adept? I see it in the console window in the program, but it's not very informative.03:27
Knowerrorsis seamonkey out for ubuntu yet?03:27
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apokryphosdarkheart: don't really know; just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:27
darkheart_apokryphos: Basically just says 'Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-kresources_4%3a.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy2_i386.deb'03:28
apokryphostry the above03:28
adoyretsamonin other words that file is damaged and needs to be downloaded again... try what apokryphos says03:29
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darkheart_apokryphos: I am, it looks like I didn't have kdepim-resources package installed (I had to run 'apt-get -f install')03:29
apokryphoswas gonna suggest that next ;-)03:29
darkheart_apokryphos: Oooh >_<03:30
darkheart_I'm getting a few lines like this though: ** (process:10696): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed03:30
darkheart_I'll pastebin03:30
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dncwalkhiya everyone..havent been here in over a year...but got a question.. how can i change the default username/hostname on the livecd for a remaster?03:31
darkheart_apokryphos: LoL this is bad. I can't load the pastebin in konq.03:31
apokryphoswhat's the problem?03:31
darkheart_apokryphos: Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.03:31
apokryphosdarkheart: yes, you'll want to restart your KDE after you upgrade =)03:32
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apokryphosdarkheart: if you get no errors with your sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, then things went smoothly.03:32
apokryphoskey on *errors*03:32
darkheart_apokryphos: LoL okay, let me tell you what happened though. I was using adept to install, so I did a full upgrade in it03:32
darkheart_apokryphos: But it errored out about the kdepim-resources package.03:32
apokryphosdarkheart: I know; just kill adepet and try that command now :P03:33
darkheart_apokryphos: It went back to the main menu and still showed those packages as upgradable, so I tried the command in the console03:33
darkheart_apokryphos: That's when I got a bunch of errors like above (the egg_desktop_entries....)03:33
dark|blueanyone know how to change the Shutdown/Logout picture(the one of the boring dragon)?03:33
apokryphosdarkheart: ok, /msg them to me then03:34
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dncwalkapokryphos: got an answer to my question maybe?03:35
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apokryphosdncwalk: no idea I'm afraid03:36
dncwalkyou helped me alot back in the days..03:36
apokryphosdarkheart_: =)03:36
darkheart_Had a feeling that was gonna happen.03:36
apokryphosdncwalk: wow, I've been using Kubuntu for over a year, how about that =)03:36
dncwalkyea..been a while03:37
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dncwalki actually remember you from here..or ubuntu03:37
dncwalkit was like 2 years ago03:37
apokryphosdefinitely means it's time to try another distro, but I'm too lazy -- would take some time to learn it as I know Kubuntu03:37
apokryphosdncwalk: definitely not 2 years -- I haven't been using Linux for that long :)03:38
Riddelldarkheart_: konqi isn't boring!03:38
dncwalki know the nick from s0omewhere03:38
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darkheart_Riddell: Wasn't me! =)03:39
dark|bluelol, ok, well, maybe I wont call him boring, but...not so "good looking" ;)03:39
darkheart_apokryphos: Okay, screw that. Haha, pastebin ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/651703:39
dark|blueand id rather have something else instead of him03:39
apokryphosdarkheart_: and what's the conclusion of the last matter?03:40
dark|blueno one seems to know how to change it though :/03:40
darkheart_apokryphos: That's it. If those messages aren't critical, I guess it finished.03:40
apokryphosdarkheart_: sure; now just restart kde and it should be fine.03:41
darkheart_apokryphos: Alright then, see you in a bit hehe.03:41
KnowerrorsAnybody running timidity with softsynth for midi?03:41
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apokryphosdark|blue: it's a kdmism, I'd presume -- so just check what things that installs03:43
Riddellapokryphos: you have not been using kubuntu for over a year :)03:43
apokryphosheh, miscalculated releases03:44
apokryphosreassuring, I can go on using it03:44
dark|bluewell, i've allready installed kde, so cant see where it has been installed, thing is, over on kde-look, there are "guides" on how to do it, but, they dont seem to work with kubuntu03:44
apokryphosRiddell: when do you classify Kubuntu's birth, out of interest? Hoary?03:44
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apokryphosdark|blue: you can; see what files kdm brings in03:45
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_alanis there a way in Kbuntu to ressurect Alsa sound when it dissapeers?03:47
dark|bluehmm, does anyone else have this folder? ~/.kde/share/apps/ksmserver/03:47
apokryphos_alan: "disappears"?03:47
_alanit just vanishes , in the sense that it says loading modules setting up alsa etc on boot but then no sound03:49
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darkheart_Oh...that sucks so bad..03:49
_alanall mixer levels are on and up etc03:49
darkheart_Now I can't get dual monitor support.03:49
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darkheart_apokryphos: No idea...I just rebooted and it doesn't work anymore.03:49
darkheart_apokryphos: s/rebooted/restarted kde/03:50
_alandoes kbuntu use alsaconf?03:50
crimsunalsaconf was removed for various reasons.03:50
_alanso how do you get alsa working again if it is not03:51
crimsun_alan: do you have an ISA card or something?03:51
_alanits a via motherboard03:51
crimsunmore details?03:51
crimsunI can't read your mind.03:51
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_alancould the via motherboard be isa?03:52
darkheart_Argh...any idea how to fix dual monitor support? Was working fine...03:52
_alandumb question03:52
crimsun_alan: it _could_ be, yes.  lspci -v |grep -i audio03:53
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_alanbrb doing it03:55
_alanit just goes to next prompt line no error03:57
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_alanwhat does  lspci -v |grep -i audio do?03:57
KnowerrorsAnybody here try Tavia khtml based web browser?03:58
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darkheart_What might prevent KDE from using my second monitor? I've an ATI card and the fglrx driver is installed, I just upgraded to KDE 3.5 though and it broke my dual monitor support04:02
darkheart_I tried running fglrxconfig again to generate the xorg.conf, but it doesn't seem to work.04:02
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m_tadeuhi everyone....I don't seem to be able to pair bluetooth devices...how to do it?04:08
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_alanmy sound card iis via 823504:11
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_alancan anyone help me with a sound problem04:14
tdmghow do I get my NVidia drivers to install openGL headers?04:16
visik7I've amarok and firefox (run with artsdsp) playing 2 audio but I can listen only to one04:16
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tdmganybody? :-/04:17
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_stevenI have always used gnome-never thought KDE was this cool. ;)04:22
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tdmgI repeat.....can anyone help me with me NVidia drivers?04:23
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Tm_Twhat about it?04:23
_stevenonly thing is firefox looks a little strange...04:24
Tm_Ttdmg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/binaryhowto/NVIDIA04:24
Tm_Tgood enough?04:24
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tdmgthanks :D04:24
tdmgI'll try it out :)04:24
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_stevenwhy does firefox look "strange" using Kubuntu(KDE)? strange I mean outdated looking interface04:29
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visik7_steven: fix it using K->sys_pref->aspect->gtk styles and fonts...04:33
_stevenvisik7, thanks04:34
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seth_k|lappy_steven, if you don't have that option, you need to install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt04:35
visik7kubuntu should install by default (at least kubuntu-desktop package)04:37
_stevenyes it installed by default04:38
_stevenI fixed it somewhat (using qt);however, that does leave me with the question.  Why does firefox depend on Gtk config?04:40
visik7firefox is written in gtk04:41
_stevenhmm, are you sure about that?04:42
xtacocorexfirefox's xul uses gtk calls04:43
xtacocorexsomeone mentioned that here a while ago04:43
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visik7as u can see gtk2 is required04:43
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visik7ok here  is 3:47 ZULU - time to sleep04:47
_stevenhm ok thanks04:52
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xwolf-what's X?04:57
jsubl2X is short for X display manager -- Xorg04:58
xwolf-what's Xorg?04:58
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damnhilwhat's the difference between edubuntu and ubuntu?05:11
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xwolf-how can i run my installed kubuntu from vmware?05:31
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duckx0rdoes anyone know where the khotkeys config file is stored?05:33
duckx0rhmm nm i found it (i think)05:34
xwolf-duckx0r tell me05:35
duckx0rxwolf-, ~/.kde/share/config/khotkeysrc05:37
duckx0rI'm trying to figure out how I can create a hotkey (keyboard shortcut > keyboard input) that inputs the left arrow05:38
duckx0rbut I can't seem to figure it out05:38
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xwolf-good luck.05:38
duckx0ryeah i know i'm gonna need it05:41
xwolf-is there a program that allows me to *run* my *installed* kubuntu from windows?05:41
xwolf-i thought of vmware but just figured out all it does is emulation05:42
duckx0rvmware isn't an emulator05:43
xwolf-whatever... it doesn't seem to do what i want05:43
duckx0rit should let you run it if you configure it right05:43
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xwolf-all i want is to run kubuntu from windows while i have a really big download in progress05:44
xwolf-then i'll just take vmware out05:44
duckx0ri dunno05:45
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xwolf-there doesn't seem to be somebody who does (or either a program that actually does what i need)05:46
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xtacocorexstarscalling: the url for the wiki page to irc info seems to be incorrect: ht/toptp://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat05:48
xtacocorexstarscalling: in the topic, forgot to mention that05:49
starscallingxtacocorex, tell um05:49
starscallingnaloith or so :D05:49
starscallingim not an op05:49
xtacocorexstarscalling: oh, i just saw your name in the topic set thing05:49
starscallingit wasnt locked to ops only changing it earlier and someone did05:50
starscallingso i tested and got the kops to change05:50
xtacocorexnalioth: the url for the wiki page to irc info in the topic seems to be incorrect: ht/toptp://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat05:50
starscallingtry um !kops please fix topic05:50
starscallingor so05:50
starscallingmake it http anyway lol05:50
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xtacocorexstarscalling: ah, i think i was around for that05:51
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naliothxtacocorex: can you fix it please?05:51
naliothxtacocorex: is it correct now?05:51
xtacocorexnalioth: it looks good now05:51
starscallingtesting :)05:51
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xtacocorexlink works for me05:52
starscallingsame here05:52
starscallingok bbiab05:52
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moshedoes anyone know why mkisofs would return "Unable to make a DVD-Video image.06:22
moshe" without any other information or clues?06:22
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blackflaghello all,06:47
blackflagcan someone tell me how I can edit a PDF file?06:47
blackflagI can do an import with kword06:47
blackflagbut alot of of signs are away after importing06:48
blackflagIs there a better way?06:48
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blackflagnobody knows something?07:03
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blackflagI can not find a PDF editor for Linux07:06
blackflagDoes someoen know  software who can edit PDF's ?07:07
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viviersfyou cannot edit pdf's07:07
blackflagwhy not?07:07
blackflagUnder m$ I can07:08
viviersfwith what app ?07:08
blackflagwith adobe professionell07:08
viviersfok look07:08
viviersfpdf = adobe07:08
viviersfso their apps can07:09
viviersfyou can use an hack to edit them07:09
viviersfconverts it to html07:09
viviersfthen you just need a way to make a new one07:09
viviersfor convert html to pdf07:09
blktigeris there a way to make splash screen say kubuntu in blue again07:10
blackflagokay, but I have an existing PDF formular that I want to edit07:10
blackflagI tried kword to imort07:10
blackflagbut during import there is  a information loss07:11
blackflagso not all from pdf is imported07:11
blackflagbut Im able to edit07:11
blackflagBut the imported PDF dont look like the original07:12
blackflagmay be there is a trick?07:12
viviersfits cos the information loss07:12
viviersfmaby it looses colors / settings / styles aswell07:12
blackflagSo how I can do a good import?07:13
blackflagor converting to .ps and import in scribus07:14
blackflagpdf2 ps dont work here07:14
blackflagI installed the lastest ghostscript07:14
blackflagbut when I use pdf2ps it gives errors07:15
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leafwadept appears to be hanged after I pushed "upgrade" for the linux kernel. Anyone knows what it is doing? I didn't push "commit", so is it only downloading or what?08:03
leafwI just can't figure out what in the world must it be doing08:05
leafwand wether it'd be unwise to kill it08:06
leafwI need to get stuff done08:06
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leafwanyone alive ?08:11
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mez_I think there are lots of people in the world who are alive08:13
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aftertafhappy new year to all :] 08:18
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dandielionousDoes anyone know what the financial program for kubuntu is?08:26
seth_k|lappydandielionous, kmymoney208:26
dandielionousty seth_k|lappy08:27
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dandielionousI just got the program installed finally.08:27
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dandielionousBeen working on getting my computer running right after switching to linux for three weeks now.08:27
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dandielionousBeen working on getting kubuntu installed since 6:00 last night.08:28
dandielionousReinstalled my system about 6 times today.08:28
dandielionousNice to have an easy answer for once.08:28
JabberWo1kyWhy would you need to reinstall six times?  I didn't want to ask for fear he would answer...08:29
kkathmanyah...dont understand that one08:29
Hobbseewho reinstalled 6 times?  and why?08:31
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kkathmangood question08:31
sampanmaybe he just liked the install screens08:32
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JabberWo1kyCan dependencies be added to packaged debs?  I've been building several packages for my own use with checkinstall, and figured I might toss them online, but checkinstall seems to ignore dependencies.  wlassistant, basKet 0.6a, etc.08:35
JabberWo1kyBTW -- the new year release of the new BasKet is quite nice...08:36
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HobbseeJabberWo1ky: you were building basket with checkinstall?08:37
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JabberWo1kyHobbsee: Yup.08:37
JabberWo1kyWorks fine.08:37
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Hobbseedo you have a link there of the updated version?08:38
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JabberWokkyYeah... hang on a sec...08:38
HobbseeJabberWokky: dont worry, i found it08:39
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JabberWokkyProbably better, anyway... it has two lib dependencies (acl and extended attr) that aren't indicated in the package I made.08:40
JabberWokkyhttp://cheshirehall.org/utilities/deb/basket_0.6.0Alpha1-1_i386.deb   (For what it's worth)08:41
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HobbseeJabberWokky: ah...no wonder i only saw 0.5.0!08:44
R0bNycif u had a choice what would u choose .. Electronics engineering Technology (1) , Networking Technology (2) , Industrial Electronics Technology (Computer Technology Track) (3) , Industrial Electronics & Networking Technology (Double Major) (4), or Business Administration - Accouting (08:44
JabberWokkyHobbsee: He says it's stable, and other than input/export (which is stubbed off with a "not yet" dialog box), it works great.  BIG leap over the old version.  I thought 0.5 was a semi-neat toy.  0.6 just got added to my default session on my desktop.08:46
aftertafJabberWokky:  what's basket do?08:46
JabberWokkyR0bNyc: I'd choose something that I thought I'd enjoy.  Your career will bounce around after graduation and you can make a living with any of those.08:47
JabberWokkyaftertaf: http://basket.kde.org/08:47
aftertaflinux is diy :] 08:48
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MezI said KY08:48
JabberWokkyHeh, well, it's either a URL or I paste the "What is it?" paragraph from that same page.  The URL gives you pretty pictures.08:48
JabberWokkyMez: Yup.  But I probably have been using it longer than you.  ;)   It's intentionally misspelled for kibo'esque reasons.  I got tired of somebody else having the same handle.08:49
HobbseeJabberWokky: ah ok, i dont think they put alpahs into the repositories though08:50
MezJabberWokky, I used since 98 - but meh :D :P08:50
JabberWokkyMez: Around 1988 for me.  :P   Xandar before that, and then I hit somebody in France with it.08:50
blackflagis there a way to convert a PDF to EPS ?08:50
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JabberWokkyMez: After the internet went commercial, I gave up and accepted that people will duplicate short strings.08:51
JabberWokkyHobbsee: Yeah - I'm looking at packaging some nice little packages and tossing them up on my webpage for people to use.08:51
Mezlol :D08:51
Mezyeah - I know 4 people (including me) IRL that use the nickname Mez08:51
HobbseeJabberWokky: use the effort you'd spend there, and learn to package properly, then upload to revu - kubuntu wants more developers08:52
Mezwhich reminds me08:52
Mezwe have someone waiting to join the kubuntu-dev team08:52
odatgnome vs kde is oh so clear to me now08:53
MezRiddell got there08:53
JabberWokkyHobbsee: Yeah - that's Option 2, but since I'm already packaging my own debs with checkinstall, I figured adding dependencies would be a minimal step to at least make them available for people who don't know what to do with source.08:54
HobbseeJabberWokky: debian/control <-- modify the file as appropriate08:54
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JabberWokkyIs there a resource for ubuntu packaging specifically, or is the Debian HOWTO the best starting point?08:56
JabberWokkyapokryphos: Thanks.08:58
JabberWokkyapokryphos: Or rather, damn you to heck for giving me something else to go through and figure out.  ;)08:58
MezJabberWokky, #ubuntu-motu-school08:58
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fatejudgeris there a way to change printer margins?09:07
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billhWhat's the best way of making all apt-gets use the http protocol instead of the CD drive ?09:16
billhIt's doing that for some packages and I'd like it to stop09:16
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billhduh, never mind :)09:17
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fatejudgersorry to ask this again, but I had to close Konversation when I restarted KDE09:25
fatejudgerdoes anyone know how to set printer margins?09:25
Hobbseegot no idea sorry fatejudger - no one answered09:26
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sampansystem settings --> printers (click on the printer in question) --> instances (tab) --> settings --> margins (tab) ?09:27
sampanat least that's where it is for me ... as well as in print dialog boxes of kdeprint/cups apps09:28
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fatejudgersampan: thank you09:34
fatejudgersampan: my documents seem to be printing right off the edge of the paper...09:34
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sampanwere you able to adjust it?  still borked? or printing properly now?09:37
sampani had that happen once -- dunno if it was the same cause, but i had to reset the paper size from A4 (euro/world standard?) to US Letter09:38
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danihi everyone09:40
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Hobbseehi dani09:46
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kareljanI'm new in Linux09:59
kareljanAnd I want to install realvnc09:59
kareljanBut I have no Idea how to do it :-)09:59
kareljancan anyone help me?10:00
kareljanthere is an install script, but it doesn't seem to work. Or I don't use i right10:01
penguinzdruse kaffeine10:03
kareljanthats a mediaplayer?10:03
kareljanit doesn't recognize any file10:06
penguinzdryes , it is10:09
penguinzdryou must install some packages to play10:09
penguinzdri don't remember wich10:09
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ubotulwizardl: I don't know, could you explain it?10:44
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lwizardlok why won't adept or apt-get find dvd:rip10:48
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ndazzabecause the package name doesn't have a : in it10:49
lwizardli've tried dvdrip & video-dvdrip10:50
crowndvdrip is in the list10:50
ndazzadazza@dazzle:~$ apt-cache search dvdrip10:50
ndazzadvdrip - perl front end for transcode10:50
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ramthashort sed question10:53
ramthahow can i add after each line a ";" with something like sed?10:54
kareljancan someone help me with the installation of realvnc? (www.realvnc.com) I'm a total newbie in linux10:54
ndazzatry sed 's/$/;/'10:54
ndazzakareljan: server or client?10:55
ndazzaramtha: $ represents the end of line character IIRC10:55
ndazzaramtha: if you want it to operate on a file it's something like sed -i <pattern> <filename>10:56
ndazzakareljan: try tightvnc. Install the package tightvncserver using adept or kynaptic10:56
ndazzakareljan: from memory it will work with realvnc clients10:57
ramthai try10:57
lwizardlok what is the dvdrip called10:58
kareljanok thanx10:58
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ndazzalwizardl: the package is called dvdrip. it's in multiverse so make sure u have that in your sources.list10:58
kareljanndazza:  tightvnc is not in the list11:00
ramthandazza: this places a ";" before every line..any hint to put it after every line?11:00
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ndazzaramtha: whoops! try ^ instead of $11:00
tencosomeone using the kiosk framework here?11:01
ndazzakareljan: it's in the universe repository, make sure that is in your list of sources11:01
ramthandazza: with $, the first caracter of every line will be replaced with ;. with ^ a ; will be put before every line11:02
ramthanot behind every line :)11:03
lwizardlndazza: i thought i had both multiverse and universe enabled11:03
ndazzalwizardl: hmm, have you done an update? there's also a package called vncserver in universe, and one called svncserver, vnc4server, ...11:03
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kompasosomeone knows why a kubuntu dapper breaks just at the beginning of install on a laptop?11:04
kareljanndazza: the universe repository?????11:04
kareljanI'm a newbie11:04
ndazzaramtha: man sed. i thought it was $ or ^ but perhaps i'm wrong11:04
ndazzaramtha: or in konqueror, info://sed11:04
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ndazzakareljan: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:07
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kareljanndazza: I have installed the package but I don't see it in the menu11:12
ndazzakareljan: try alt+f2 -> vncserver11:12
ndazzaor tightvncserver11:13
spikehis it possible to change the scroll wheel settings in Kubuntu?11:13
ndazzadepending on which package you installed11:13
kareljanI installed the tightserver11:13
lwizardlok how can i make sure universe & multiverse are setup correctly11:13
ndazzakareljan: then i think it's tightvncserver...11:14
ndazzalwizardl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:14
kareljanndazza: ok I did that11:14
kareljanndazza: how can I see if it's running?11:14
ndazzalwizardl: also look over /etc/apt/sources.list and look for references to universe and multiverse11:15
ndazzakareljan: if i remember anything about vnc, it should have asked u to set a password...11:15
ndazzakareljan: otherwise, you could go to a command prompt and type netstat -tanpl11:15
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ndazzakareljan: look for an application listening on the VNC port (i don't remember what port that is...)11:16
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ndazzakareljan: you could also read the man page for tightvncserver, alt+f2 -> man://tightvncserver11:17
kareljanndazza: now it gives a font error11:18
ndazzakareljan: okay, don't know what that is! try opening konsole and running man tightvncserver11:19
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kareljandid that an than it gives the font error11:19
ndazzawhile konsole is opening? or when you try to run the command?11:20
wsjuniori've just installed ubuntu 5.10 but i really hate gnome.. is there an easy way to transform ubuntu in kubuntu without have to download kubuntu's iso and install everything again?11:20
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Hobbseewsjunior: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:20
kareljanFont directory '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/' not found - ignoring11:20
ndazzawsjunior: there's a package called kubuntu-desktop which will install it for you11:20
kareljanndazza:  this is it11:21
wsjuniorndazza, will it uninstall gnome as well?11:21
ndazzakareljan: when does that error pop up? while konsole is starting? or after you get to a command prompt?11:21
ndazzawsjunior: no11:21
ndazzawsjunior: i don't know of an easy way to remove gnome, but it will happily co-exist beside kde11:22
kareljanndazza: I types tightvncserver in the console it asked fora password and then it says that it can't find the fonts11:22
spikehis it possible to change the scroll wheel settings in Kubuntu?11:22
ndazzakareljan: ahh. okay, perhaps the packagers fudged the font directories or something. try one of the other packages, like vncserver11:22
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wsjuniorndazza, thank you!11:30
ndazzawsjunior: no worries11:30
wsjuniorHobbsee, thanks :)11:30
ubotuHobbsee: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:31
Hobbseehey, i had that in there!11:31
Hobbseeno problems wsjunior11:31
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ubotuI heard removegnome is to fully remove gnome, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9604611:34
Hobbseewsjunior: ^11:34
kareljanusage: vncserver [:<number>]  [-name <desktop-name>]  [-depth <depth>] 11:35
kareljan                 [-geometry <width>x<height>] 11:35
kareljan                 [-pixelformat rgbNNN|bgrNNN] 11:35
kareljan                 <Xvnc-options>...11:35
kareljan       vncserver [-clean]  -kill :<number>11:35
kareljanndazza:  how do I use this?11:35
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penguinzdrhow can i untar tgz archives?11:35
wsjuniorHobbsee, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop is installing kde 3.4.3 how to install kde 3.5?11:35
Hobbseeadd the kde3.5 repo11:36
ubotuI guess kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php11:36
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Hobbseesee that announcement11:36
wsjuniori'll take a look now11:36
lwizardlok i do have it all enabled11:37
Hobbseethat extra repository?11:39
Hobbseethen update, and upgrade11:39
Hobbsee!tell penguinzdr about tar11:39
penguinzdrhmm... ubotu don't tells me anything11:41
Hobbseeit should11:41
ubotusomebody said tar was ,TAR archives ,in the GUI use 'FileRoller' for all your extraction needs, to extract tar archives from the command line 'tar -xf <file.tar>' or if they are gzipped/bz2zipped use 'tar -xzf <file.tar.gz> '  or  'tar -xjf <flie.tar.bz2> '  respectivly.  'man tar' for more info.11:42
penguinzdrmaybe irssi don't opens automatically a query window?11:42
Hobbseeit does, when someone sends you a message - alt+number that's on the bottom of the screen11:42
Hobbseeanyway, it's tar -xf <file.tar>11:42
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lwizardldid the update & upgrade11:45
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lwizardlstill no dvdrip11:46
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lwizardldvd backup program11:49
lwizardli have both multiverse & universe enabled11:49
lwizardldid the update/upgrade11:49
lwizardland its still not there11:49
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Hobbseewhat about sudo apt-get install dvdrip?11:51
lwizardlE: Couldn't find package dvdrip11:51
Hobbsee!info dvdrip11:52
ubotudvdrip: (perl front end for transcode), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:0.52.5-0.0 (breezy), Packaged size: 365 kB, Installed size: 1656 kB11:52
Hobbseeare you sure you got multiverse enabled?11:52
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lwizardleverything with deb with a # before it i removed the #11:53
Hobbsee!tell lwizardl about multiverse11:53
Hobbseemultiverse you have to manually add11:54
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lwizardlok i'll try that11:55
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lwizardlhmm seems that worked12:00
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Hobbseelwizardl: oh good!12:02
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spikehsome applications such as VLC media player have a horrid monospace font, is it possible to change this?12:10
Hobbseespikeh: in kcontrol, fonts?  there's a monospace font setting...12:10
spikehHobbsee: I've tried that but it doesn't apply to VLC12:11
spikehHobbsee: the same applies to applications like XMMS12:12
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hunikahelp me12:28
hunikahow do i disable12:28
hunikamy firewall12:28
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hunikahelp me12:29
hunikahow do i disable my firewall12:29
hunikatotally disable12:29
hunikaAnybody here/12:30
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hunikanobody here?12:32
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puckmanof course there are people here :P12:37
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hunikapuckman: help me12:39
hunikapuckman: i installed kmyfirewall and now i cna not disable it12:40
puckmanI would have no idea how to do that, soorry.12:40
Xemanth^hunika: iptables --flush ?12:43
hunikaXemanth^: yes12:43
hunikajust help me12:43
Xemanth^hunika: iptables --flush removes all firewall rules12:44
hunikaXemanth^: to disable that firewall12:44
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hunikaXemanth^: how12:44
Xemanth^hmm haven't ever used kmyfirewall12:44
hunikaXemanth^: just disable everything12:44
hunikaXemanth^: how I make that?12:44
Xemanth^hunika: in konsole sudo iptables --flush12:45
hunikaXemanth^: i need a restart12:46
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hunikaXemanth^:  thanks a lot12:57
hunikaXemanth^: it is ok now12:57
Xemanth^hunika: no problem12:58
SirKillalothow can I turn off the autosearch of kbluetoothd for new BT devices?12:58
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hunikaXemanth^: thanks thanks again01:00
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Xemanth^hunika: *kiss*01:08
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hunikaXemanth^: where are you from01:08
Xemanth^hunika: finland01:09
hunikaXemanth^: I am from a little bit far from there! ROMANIA01:09
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Xemanth^oh :)01:09
hunikaXemanth^: What?01:13
Xemanth^hunika: thats far away01:14
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hunikaXemanth^: I am hungarian anyway01:14
hunikaXemanth^: Probably you've heard that hungary was divided after the World War01:15
Xemanth^yeah i have heard :P01:15
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hunikaXemanth^: so my mother tongue is hungarian but my passport is romanian :(01:16
_mattHi everyone!01:16
Xemanth^hunika: yop, now i'm little quiet because i'm rather buzy01:18
Xemanth^quite* i mean01:18
hunikaXemanth^: No problem. I don't disturb you. I leave you to work01:19
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Sastkryptloxhow do i find out which bversion of kubuntu i am running on my system? ^^01:27
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Sastkryptlox(sorry for the newbie question ;))01:27
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SirKillalotis there something in konqueror similar to nautilus' computer:/// path?01:34
SirKillalotwhere I can see all mounted devices01:34
_matthi sirkillalot01:35
_mattmounted devices - go in to system  settings01:36
_mattthen disk & filesystems01:36
_mattthis will show you your disks01:36
_mattlook at the ones that are 'enabled'01:36
SirKillalotI want to access them through konqueror, that's the point01:37
SirKillalotin nautilus you can list all mounts in 'computer:///'01:37
SirKillalotis there such acronym in konqueror?01:37
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_mattim not too sure about the acronyn, however, knonqueror is simplified in kubuntu01:38
SirKillalothm, i didn't know that01:38
SirKillalotfor example?01:39
_mattin order to get the left panel back - so that you can see mounted points go here01:39
SirKillalotpress F901:39
_mattthen 'How do I change Konqueror back to the default KDE profiles?'01:39
_mattdoes this help?01:40
SirKillalotlets see01:40
_mattlet me know!01:40
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FHX_awayHi, could anyone help me? I'm getting some nasty make errors.02:11
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FHXHeh. Guess not.02:12
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nkuttleris gnome in kubuntu as well? or can i mix ubuntu and kubuntu sources if i want gnome and kde?02:17
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Tonio_nkuttler: it is not installed by default02:19
Tonio_but of course tou can install it if you want02:19
ubotu`Nomad: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:19
nkuttlerTonio_: ok, great02:20
`NomadGood morning all..  I run KDE 3.5 and I forgot what the command is to refresh the menu items.. I installed many new things that don't show up..02:21
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cheluI've problems installing amsn02:37
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cheluI try with the .deb and the .bin02:37
chelubut both send an error02:38
cheluthe .deb can't find "path" and the .bin need tcl-dev but I can't install it via apt-get02:38
cheluwhat can I do?02:38
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Tonio_chelu: are you installing it from an official repo <,02:42
Tonio_what version are you installing ?02:42
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visik7had anyone try gplflash2 ?02:44
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hunikaTm_T: hello02:50
hunikaTm_T: are you there?02:50
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cheluTonio_: soz I was eating02:59
chelui'm trying to install 0.95-102:59
cheludownloaded from the official web page03:00
chelubut I can run it03:00
Tonio_according to what I remember the debian package given doesn't work fine...03:00
Tonio_let me have a look03:00
cheluoks, thx03:00
Tonio_chelu: stupid question but why using gaim instead of kopete ?03:01
Tonio_I mean, gaim isn't well integrated in kubuntu....03:01
chelui'm using kopete atm03:01
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chelubut I'd like to use amsn03:02
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Tonio_hum sorry for my post, s/gaim/amsn, of course03:02
Tonio_chelu, any specific need of 0.95 version instead of the actual 0.94 ?03:03
cheluyes, I need the webcam support03:03
chelubut I remember that 0.95 is the last stable03:04
Tonio_yes but not in ubuntu....03:04
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Tonio_I didn't found a package for breezy, but it appears that you have an amsncvs debian package on the freecontrib repo03:05
cheluwhat can I add that repo to my apt?03:05
cheluI'm noob :(03:05
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Tonio_let me check03:07
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cheluoks, thx a lot03:07
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Tonio_no pb, anyway, if I may give you my point of view03:07
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Tonio_the best way to get confortable with ubuntu if you're a noob is to manage to do with the official repos only as long it is possible03:08
Tonio_other packages are not tested, validated etc...03:08
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Tonio_I personaly prefer to use another software waiting for my preferred one to be packaged with the good version than starting using external repos03:09
Tonio_so if I were you, I would probably wait for dapper and use kopete03:09
Tonio_but let me give you the repo url03:09
Tonio_then you do what you want03:09
cheluoks, thx again03:10
Tonio_add this repo using adept or directly in /etc/apt/sources.list03:10
Tonio_http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/ breezy free non-free03:10
Tonio_copy the full line03:10
Tonio_then update and install the package called amsncvs03:11
cheluookey, I'm trying03:11
chelunow is downloading03:13
cheluit appears to work fine03:13
cheluthank you very much Tonio_ :D03:14
Tonio_no pb :)03:14
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fischidoes anyone know in which package HEAD is located?03:23
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apokryphosfischi: http://packages.ubuntu.com03:26
fischiok thx apokryphos :)03:27
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Tm_Thunika: ?03:32
hunikaTm_T: do you remember i said to you about that kopete problem03:32
hunikaTm_T: but you leaved03:32
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Tm_Tah, what problem03:32
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hunikaTm_T: My contacts can not see my contact photo, but i can see theirs. I DO NOT HAVE A FIREWALl03:33
Tm_Tthat problem03:33
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Tm_Tcheck your global identity settings03:34
hunikaTm_T: what to look for?03:34
hunikait is enabled03:34
Tm_Tand has contact photo too?03:36
Tm_Tyou should not choose bigger photo than 96x9603:36
hunikait has03:36
hunikait is not a big photo03:36
Tm_Tcheck that one03:36
Tm_Ttry with something small, like 48x4803:37
Tm_Tjust for test03:37
hunikabut my contacts are not online at the moment03:37
Tm_TI am03:37
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hunikaTm_T: my msn email hbajtalan@hotmail.com03:38
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Tm_Thunika: Good luck ;-P03:52
hunikaTm_T: thanks :)03:52
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hunikaTm_T: another thing is that yahoo users can not send files to me03:53
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admrlhunika did you say what im client you are using..?03:55
ninHerhi all03:55
hunikaadmrl: KOPETE03:55
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JakubS_is it possible to have networkmanager connecting immediately, before kde session and nm-applet is launched?03:56
admrlhunika: file sharing isnt too old in kopete so it is most likely a bit touchy03:57
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admrlhunika: have you tried using gaim..?03:59
admrlor yahoo has a linux client03:59
admrland you could try that also03:59
hunikaadmrl: Gaim is too old, it does not have a style, a beauty, it looks like windows04:01
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hunikaadmrl:  the whole GNOME looks like Windows 9504:02
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buz(as it doesnt seem to tbe possible to have popups driven by kmail filtering)04:02
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admrlthen if how it looks is more important than usability than dont complain :)04:02
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hunikaadmrl: do you use skype linux?04:05
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admrli actually use kopete04:05
admrlwhen i first came to linux i used kopete but file sending in kopete wasnt ready for me so i wasnt ready for kopete04:06
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admrli used gaim until kopete did what i wanted it to do04:06
hunikaadmrl: but you don't use voice calling?04:06
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admrlhunika: if you have a question and no one on here can help i would suggest a google search tho04:09
hunikaadmrl: I have just a small question not problem04:09
hunikaadmrl: Skype for Linux is quite old is not it?04:10
Tm_Thunika: should not be that old04:10
admrli first heard about it less than a year ago04:11
hunikaTm_T: it does not looks like the one for Windows. And in windows skype I have video support too04:11
admrlhunika: have you got your webcam working at the moment..?04:12
hunikaadmrl: my dog has broken my webcam :)))))))))))))))))))))04:12
hunikaadmrl: I can not use it now04:12
admrlhunika: have you tried it in ubuntu..?04:12
hunikaadmrl: what?04:13
admrlthe drivers in ubuntu for most or all webcam drivers is broken by default and must be recompiled04:13
hunikaadmrl: here I am talking about a skype version for Linux that supports video calls04:14
admrlok coming to your computer you arnt talking about using your webcam and having someone seeing you04:15
hunikaadmrl: yes I am just asking if there is a beta version of skype for linux which supports video calls04:16
admrlSkype has hinted that its new video phone service -- available only for Windows XP users at this time -- will likely be available for Linux and Macintosh soon,04:18
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admrlthat is from december 1st of 200504:18
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admrlhunika: anything else..?04:23
hunikaadmrl: no thanks.. Thanks again04:23
admrlyep yep04:24
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hunikaIf I have forgotten my password at freenode04:27
hunikahow can i get it?04:27
hunikaadmrl: ?04:27
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admrllol i have noooo clue04:29
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admrlmake a new one** i was trying to say04:30
admrl*****/<nick hunika_ than make a new account with freenode04:30
admrlthat would be the best i can tell you04:30
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admrlanyone using the new version of amsn04:34
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beastadmrl: i am04:35
admrlbeast: does webcam support actually work04:36
beastadmrl: yes it does04:36
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apokryphosvery well, yup04:37
beastadmrl: ink too04:37
admrlthey clamed it in the cvs a while back but you had to do some funny things with some dependencies that i was too scared to try04:37
admrlbeast: it works out of the box?04:37
admrlw/o any tweaking04:38
beastadmrl: yes, it should04:38
admrlwow thats interesting04:38
admrli wish i was at home :(04:39
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admrlit wouldbe fun to try04:40
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s43767anyone knows of a (bash?) script for 5.10 that will install mp3/java/swf/dvd/etc... ?04:47
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apokryphoss43767: /msg ubotu easyubuntu04:49
admrls43767: id suggest adding ubuntu plf repo to your /etc/apt/sources.list04:49
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s43767admrl: ?04:49
admrls43767: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf04:50
admrlthat has everything you need and once you have it added04:50
admrlyou can use adept or synaptic or apt-get or whatever you use to install all of those things04:51
admrlat the link it tells you how to do everything from the command line04:51
admrland if you k now about bash scripts you should know how to use the commandline04:51
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xwolf-is there a reason why vmware doesnt complete the booting of kubuntu installed here? (i created a vm with hard drive set as my own) it seems as if it just got nothing to do after "Checking battery state... [ok] "04:53
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Bizzehi cant seem to get my X server to start04:53
Bizzehcomplains of "no screen"04:53
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eksajmits something uncorrect in the config file04:54
Bizzehlooks like its because it cant find my gfx card04:54
Bizzehpci-e radeon x70004:54
GenghisKhanBizzeh: look for other complaints04:54
admrlBizzeh: is it like that right after install..?04:54
Bizzehright after install04:54
admrlalright so you havnt tried to install drivers correct..?04:54
admrldrivers for your graphics card04:54
Bizzehnot yet, i was trying to use the standard stuff first04:55
Bizzehim grabbing the amd64 drivers for linux from ati now04:55
admrlis this your first boot04:56
Bizzehdidnt work on first, second, third of fourth04:56
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admrlalrighty i think the amd64 drivers is the best idea you could get unless your drivers are in the ubuntu repositorys04:57
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admrldo you know much about the commandline..?04:57
NPC_CrysHey, I can't get lame installed. I checked apt-get as well as adept.04:57
Bizzehi cant get my wireless up tho04:57
Bizzehcan someone make the bot tell me about rt250004:58
NPC_Crys!tell bizzeh about rt250004:58
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NPC_Crysbizzeh just pm the bot and enter rt250004:58
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Bizzehi dont kno what the bots name is04:59
admrlifconfig i think would be a command used to bring up a connection04:59
GenghisKhanNPC_Crys: add multiverse. i think lame is in multiverse04:59
xwolf-is there a reason why vmware doesnt complete the booting of kubuntu installed here? (i created a vm with hard drive set as my own) it seems as if it just got nothing to do after "Checking battery state... [ok] "04:59
NPC_Crysgenghiskhan I think I have multiverse enabled.04:59
hyperactivecrondIs it possible to take the Kubuntu iso image, expand upon it to make it dvd size, take the resulting iso and burn it onto a dvd so it can be a live linux on dvd?04:59
Bizzehi iwconfig'ed my ra0 to set the ssidand encryption, i dont kno how to make it connect to the router/ap though04:59
hyperactivecrondkubuntu live iso*04:59
NPC_Cryshyperactivecrond: Yes, but I can't tell you how.05:00
hyperactivecrondNPC_Crys: instructions on how to customize i've found on the wiki05:00
hyperactivecrondbut a cd iso image will boot from a dvd?05:00
admrlhyperactivecrond: Pclinuxos has an app on the live cd after you do a hd install that will let you make a livecd05:01
NPC_CrysI don't know. Try it. I know you can boot from a dvd, though.05:01
GenghisKhanNPC_Crys: lame is in multiverse in breezy. look at http://packages.ubuntu.com05:01
NPC_CrysThere is a live/install dvd option.05:01
hyperactivecrondadmrl: why do that when i can customize the kubuntu cd/05:01
NPC_CrysGenghisKhan: so how do I add multiverse to adept? I thought I allready had.05:02
admrlive never done any work with live cds i just new of that script and thought it would be usefull for what you are doing05:02
hyperactivecrondNPC_Crys: i mean to take the livecd, expand it so that it's more than a cd size (dvd size) than burn it to a dvd05:02
GenghisKhanNPC_Crys: dunno, i allways edit /etc/apt/sources.list by hand05:02
NPC_Cryshyperactivecrond: If you have a spare dvd just try it, right? couldn't hurt.05:03
hyperactivecrondlol NPC_Crys ok05:03
NPC_CrysSounds like the only thing that could hurt you was if there is a significant difference between the structure of a burned dvd and cd and I just have no clue about that.05:04
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NPC_CrysHey GenghisKhan How do you edit your repositories by hand?05:08
admrlNPC_Crys: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:09
GenghisKhanNPC_Crys: use vim/emacs/whatever to edit /etc/apt/sources.list05:09
NPC_CrysIt looks like adept manages repositories by uncommenting lines in the sources.list file.05:09
admrlthats the same way synaptic and any other apt-get front end does it05:11
NPC_CrysI was just about to ask that.05:11
GenghisKhanNPC_Crys: i have pasted my sources.list in kubuntu.pastebin.com05:11
NPC_CrysSo whenever I enter synaptic or adept it checks this list and just runs apt-get install for me?05:11
admrlapt-get update if you want to do it from command line05:12
GenghisKhanNPC_Crys: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/48881105:12
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NPC_CrysMan, are those spanish?05:13
GenghisKhanNPC_Crys: yes, they are. it doesn't matter put the ones you like05:14
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xwolf-is there a reason for this vm to stop what it's doing at this exact moment in the shot?05:14
NPC_CrysSo if I take the ones you pasted and just substitute in the us for the es then I am in business, right?05:15
GenghisKhanxwolf-: seems some problem with acpi05:15
admrli would think en05:15
GenghisKhanNPC_Crys: yes05:15
xwolf-GenghisKhan what could i do?05:15
NPC_CrysI don't need the source repositories, right?05:16
GenghisKhanNPC_Crys: no if you don't want to download sources05:16
xwolf-off to lunch, back soon05:16
GenghisKhanxwolf-: there are options to boot without acpi. something about noacpi05:16
NPC_Crystoo many ?'s?05:17
apokryphoskkathman: ??05:18
apokryphoskkathman: why did you leave?05:18
apokryphosI was just playing with you now since you were an op; expected you to retaliate with a boot :P05:19
kkathmanohh no I'd not do that..esp to you05:19
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kkathmanI was just trying to get a script right in kvirc..and it wasnt working for some reason05:19
apokryphoskkathman: just playing around =)05:20
kkathmanseems to work fine on any other command except /op05:20
apokryphos(I of course didn't mean anything by it)05:20
kkathmanohh I thought you were trying to tell me not to do that05:20
apokryphoskkathman: what are you trying to do? Get it to auto-op you in a chan that you're in?05:20
apokryphosof course not :)05:20
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apokryphoskkathman: join back in #kubuntu-offtopic05:20
kkathmanapokryphos: was trying to just set an alias called /op05:21
NPC_CrysGot it! Commiting changes. And now to rip some mp3's. Thanks, GenghisKhan.05:22
GenghisKhanNPC_Crys: you're wellcome05:22
GenghisKhanNPC_Crys: just remember ogg is better and cooler :-) never mind05:23
NPC_CrysI know, but I have an ipod, and they don't like ogg files.05:23
visik7anyone using kopete and msn + file transfer ?05:23
NPC_Crystoo bad for me.05:23
visik7when I recive a file it is 0 bytes05:23
GenghisKhanNPC_Crys: same with my portable player05:24
pussfellerhow can I make HAL or kmount or whatever mount my ipod at /media/pusspod  always instead of a random sd device05:24
NPC_CrysThen you know my hell. I have a linux box which can quickly compress oggs and a player that won't read them. Sucks.05:25
NPC_CrysOkay, time for the lurking. I'll be back when I'm trying to make amarok work with my ipod.05:25
GenghisKhanpussfeller: you need to make a udev rule05:25
pussfellerthey have udev on breezy?05:26
GenghisKhanpussfeller: yes05:26
pussfellerwhat syntax GenghisKhan would that take05:26
pussfellerNPC_Crys, if yer going to use amarok especially with an ipod, you should get an svn script and buiild it yerself, its a pain but recent svns work much better all around with ipods05:27
pussfellertho i think svn is currently broken05:28
GenghisKhanpussfeller: look at one i have for my mp3 player at http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/48882705:28
pussfellerifkubuntu used volume names it would make more sense05:29
pussfellerthey do in that media doodad but not in the file space05:29
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GenghisKhanpussfeller: as i have configured it, my player gets /dev/mp3 and then it gets mounted in /media/mp305:30
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pussfellerwhere do i get the sysfs from? lshal?05:31
GenghisKhanpussfeller: udevinfo -a -p /sys/block/sda05:33
GenghisKhanpussfeller: there is great info for udev rules at http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html05:33
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pussfellertys GenghisKhan im going to play with this and see how it goes05:34
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GenghisKhanpussfeller: i think that with -> BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="iPod",  NAME{all_partitions}="pusspod", GROUP="hal", MODE="640" <- it will work05:37
GenghisKhanpussfeller: that was taken from http://mnm.uib.es/gallir/posts/2005/04/22/249/05:37
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xwolf-GenghisKhan, how do i edit grub's boot parameter noacpi? is that gonna complete the booting with vmware? it's strange cause it doesnt happen when i'm doing it the old way05:56
C-O-L-TI need a download manager for linux which after finishing the download shuts down my computer05:57
C-O-L-TI need a download manager for linux which after finishing the download shuts down my computer05:57
GenghisKhanxwolf-: i think is noacpi, but not sure. edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and in the kernel line add noacpi05:57
C-O-L-TI need a download manager for linux which after finishing the download shuts down my computer05:58
GenghisKhanxwolf-: but i have no idea on how to change it without booting. can you mount the vmware image?05:58
xwolf-define 'mount vmware image'05:58
GenghisKhanxwolf-: mount the files in the image to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst from your running system05:59
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JohnFluxHey all05:59
JohnFluxHow do I burn the iso image to a dvd in windows?05:59
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JohnFluxI know it's a windows question, but I have a kubuntu iso image.. ;)05:59
xwolf-GenghisKhan actually, it's a real installation.. it's on my HDD and everything, i just don't want to shut down windows while it's download a big bunch of files right now... so i thought of vmware, but it doesnt complete booting06:00
GenghisKhanJohnFlux: well, i don't use win, but i think nero has something to do it06:01
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xwolf-JohnFlux just run your nero or similar burning software and give it a try. if it does not accept the compilation, you'll know06:01
JohnFluxi tried nero, but it will only burn the cdrom iso to a blank cdrom, not a dvd :(06:02
GenghisKhanxwolf-: ah, i didn't know that. then you can boot the installation and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, but i don't know if it will work. i think it isn't worth06:02
JohnFluxI can't see why people like nero06:02
JohnFluxit just annoys me constantly06:02
JabberWokkyJohnFlux: You may well really like k3b.  I do.06:03
JohnFluxJabberWokky: I love k3b.  but i need to burn kubuntu to a dvd to install it ;)06:03
xwolf-JohnFlux well, there's your answer. you can't burn a cd image to a blank dvd06:03
JabberWokkyNo real help in the Wikis.  Edubuntu has the single like:  If you're using Nero CD burner in Microsoft Windows, or K3b in KDE, you can select the burn ISO CD image option, and select the edubuntu cd image file.06:03
JohnFluxxwolf-: .... I'm sure that's not true06:03
JohnFluxis it?06:03
xwolf-if nero complains, why would it be true?06:04
JohnFluxbecause nero isn't exactly the best piece of software06:04
xwolf-i could be wrong, anyways06:04
xwolf-there are many cleverer guys here06:04
JabberWokkyI have never done it, but somebody did tell me you could (and he was pretty with it)06:04
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JabberWokkyImgBurn is Windows freeware (see above link)06:05
xwolf-GenghisKhan the thing is, i can't boot the installation right now ;> and even if i do, i would have to edit it just to use vmware, and when he is not needed, edit menu.lst again?06:05
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nandasunuanyone alive?06:06
JohnFluxJabberWokky: ah I found an app isoburn which seems to be working.06:06
JabberWokkynandasunu: No, this is the Undead Linux Channel.06:06
kkathmanabout 6 billion in the work I reckon nandasunu :)06:06
JohnFluxnot sure if it will actually work ;)06:06
nandasunuI will take that as a yes ;)06:06
JabberWokkyJohnFlux: Is it freeware or free software?06:06
GenghisKhanxwolf-: in vmware you have access to the grub menu, don't you?06:06
JohnFluxJabberWokky: freeware06:07
nandasunuI just installed kde on my ubuntu setup and have a n00b question06:07
JohnFluxJabberWokky: i don't care - it's only to get linux installed ;)06:07
xwolf-GenghisKhan yes.06:07
kkathmannandasunu:  just ask the question and maybe someone will help you06:07
GenghisKhanxwolf-: then you can edit it from grub06:07
kkathmanif they know the answer06:07
JohnFluxnandasunu: ask don't ask to ask :)06:07
JabberWokkyJohnFlux: Might be a good idea to add something to the Kubuntu Wiki about that.  I don't use windows or I would do it myself (I'd have to guess at stuff).06:07
nandasunuhow do I access the history in konquerer?06:07
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JohnFluxJabberWokky: link?06:07
xwolf-GenghisKhan i choose Ubuntu kernel 'something' there, and it starts to boot kubuntu, but never finishes06:08
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nandasunuI am totally new to kde06:08
JohnFluxnandasunu: the location bar is a drop down box, no?06:08
xwolf-GenghisKhan how can i edit it?06:08
JabberWokkyJohnFlux: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu06:08
nandasunuJohnFlux: that doesn't display the full history, only entered urls as far as I can see06:08
GenghisKhanxwolf-: select the Ubuntu kernel 'something' you are booting and press e instead of enter06:09
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JohnFluxJabberWokky: can you do it.  i need to create an account etc etc06:09
JohnFluxnandasunu: check the menus maybe :)06:09
JohnFluxnandasunu: there's #kde06:09
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JabberWokkyJohnFlux: Yep - At the very least I'm going to create a stub with a link to ImgBurn.  Do you have a link to isoburn?06:10
xwolf-GenghisKhan what's acpi anyways?06:10
nandasunuJohnFlux: thanks06:10
JohnFluxxwolf-: power management06:10
JohnFluxxwolf-: also includes hibernation and suspend etc06:11
JohnFluxnandasunu: the first link is a page with a link to the second06:11
xwolf-my virtual machine isn't completing boot because POWER MANAGEMENT? what a dick06:11
JohnFluxokay i'm going to test the dvd06:11
JabberWokkyJohnFlux: Thanks.  I'm tossing the links into a basket and will toss a page up later this evening.  I'm surprised there's not already a page, since there's pretty good help on installing once you *have* the disc.06:11
GenghisKhanxwolf-: yes, it has something to do with the laptop battery, and as vmware implementation may not be very good it may give problems06:12
JohnFluxxwolf-: ah. possibly yeah.  boot with noacpi06:12
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JohnFluxxwolf-: press 'e' and add that to the kernel line06:12
JohnFluxxwolf-: noacpi=1     rather06:12
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JohnFluxactually just noacpi  should work as well06:13
JohnFluxC-O-L-T: away messages are stupid :P06:13
xwolf-is it stupid to say i am not using a laptop? lol06:13
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JohnFluxxwolf-: makes no difference06:13
GenghisKhanxwolf-: ubuntu will allway check for laptop. also acpi is also useful in desktops06:14
xwolf-ok, well, i have 5 lines: root something, kernel /boot/something, initrd /boot/something, savedefault, boot06:14
xwolf-where should i put the 'noacpi=1' newline?06:14
GenghisKhanxwolf-: it's not newline, it goes in the kernel line06:15
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GenghisKhanxwolf-: just after splash06:16
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xwolf-GenghisKhan i was getting this from the very first booting:06:21
xwolf-/etc/init-d/alsa-utils: Warning: 'alsactl-restore' failed with error message 'No state is present for card AudioPCI'06:21
xwolf-but it didn't seem to be a problem, is it?06:21
GenghisKhanxwolf-: afaik no06:21
xwolf-ok then, it is on 'checking battery state... [ok] '06:22
xwolf-let me wait a few minutes06:22
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xwolf-GenghisKhan well, it still goes for a walk after checking battery, and never comes back06:24
GenghisKhanxwolf-: try pressing ctrl+c06:24
xwolf-what's that?06:25
xwolf-nothing happens too06:25
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xwolf-GenghisKhan don't let me lose hope :P06:27
GenghisKhanxwolf-: it sends a terminate signal. sometimes the process wich is hangin dies and the booting continues06:28
xwolf-it doesn't respond, nothing happens.. what does that mean?06:28
GenghisKhanxwolf-: in a real system you could try caps lock to see if the kernel is death06:29
GenghisKhanxwolf-: probably it has some problem with vmware's acpi and the process hangs06:29
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GenghisKhanxwolf-: you could disable the battery checking, but i'm afraid that you'll need to edit files in you linux partition06:30
xwolf-I am afraid, cause it seems i won't be able to fix it06:31
thegladiatorGenghisKhan, there is a basic doubt i have reagrding KDE , the minimizer window , is vertically stackde as opposed to horizontal in gnome06:32
thegladiatorlike when i minimize a app , it gets stacked vertically , 2 in a column and then another 2 in a clomun so on06:32
thegladiatorcan I make it look like gnome?06:32
thegladiatorfull horiz ?06:32
thegladiatorGenghisKhan, do you get me ?06:33
GenghisKhanthegladiator: this is because the bar is high and there is space for 2 apps. you can make it half high and then it will put all apps horizontally06:33
thegladiatorhow to make it half high ?06:34
thegladiatorjust change in properties ?06:34
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thegladiatori am on XFCE now06:34
thegladiatorinstalling kde06:34
GenghisKhanthegladiator: right click on the panel -> configure panel -> size -> small06:35
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thegladiatorGenghisKhan, you meant apps as in kde applications suits you better than gnome applications?06:37
thegladiatorthe usability and memory havent been the issues ?06:37
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GenghisKhanthegladiator: no i mean that when i started using linux (mandrake) i started with kde and i got used to kde apps. then i tried gnome, but i missed my konqueror and my ...06:38
GenghisKhanthegladiator: i never got used to gnome. besides that, amarok rocks06:38
sorush20I keep getting kde communication error when it crashes.. can someone help please06:38
sorush20kate keeps crashing from the command line like sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.lits06:39
thegladiatori use amarok on gnome06:40
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JakubS_is there mysql server 5.0 package for kubuntu?06:41
GenghisKhanthegladiator: well, i use gimp in kde06:42
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damnhilHOW do I enable/disable init services in command line?06:45
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heixhow update sourse list06:46
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heixCheck that you have write access to this file06:47
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xwolf-GenghisKhan how do i do the same thing (booting my own machine), but with qemu?06:49
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heixhelp me please06:51
eksajmhelix sudo apt-get update ?06:51
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GenghisKhanxwolf-: dunno, i have never used qemu in windows06:51
heix no no from  /etc/apt/sources.list06:52
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eksajmyeah? update downloads the package lists specified in source list06:52
eksajmheix what do you mean?06:53
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heixi want add some new lines there like "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main"06:54
heixif i whant install gaim or fire fox i use command apt-get install firefox! afther that my linux want kubuntu cd06:56
heixi want to download from net06:57
heixlike from debian06:57
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heixthere is no need for cd06:57
MrFaberHas anyone experiences with touchpads and scrolling with two fingers like Mac OS?06:58
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GenghisKhanheix: remove de cd line in sources.list06:58
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heixno permission07:00
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_martin_Rightclick -> actions -> edit as root07:01
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sas171hi, I have some problems with my Kubuntu 5.10 on boot time. It stop booting while Battery state checking... I installed Kubuntu 10 minutes ago and changed only pppoeconf and xorg.conf... at the first boot time all was right. some ideas?07:02
heixwhere i do: "Rightclick -> actions -> edit as root"07:03
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heixdamn me07:04
heixtnx for all07:04
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_francescoHello, how can I share some files in a Windows network? (2 pc with winxp, with an adsl 4-port-switch router) Please help me!07:08
_francescoI should join that network with my laptop (kubuntu breezy)07:08
sas171_francesco: keyword samba?07:08
_francescosas171: do I need to configure it? is it difficult?07:10
GenghisKhan_francesco: yes and no07:10
sas171_francesco: i think its very difficult... but try to smoke wiki07:10
GenghisKhan_francesco: don't believe him. usually default config will be ok or will requiere a minor tweak07:12
sas171so no ideas about my boot problem, should i reinstall kubuntu?07:12
_francescowhat's your problem sas171?07:13
heixhow i can get frozen-bubble  (apt-get install frozen-bubble not work)???07:13
sas171I have some problems with my Kubuntu 5.10 on boot time. It stop booting while Battery state checking... I installed Kubuntu 10 minutes ago and changed only pppoeconf and xorg.conf... at the first boot time all was right. some ideas?07:13
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_francescono, I'm really sorry...07:14
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psykok how do you unzip files in kubuntu07:14
psykis it a *.zip file07:14
xwolf-psyk tar07:14
psyktar *.zip?07:15
psykthat didnt work07:15
psyki got cl inflate i hope thats a good one07:18
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psyknow i dunoo how to run it07:20
WiLDI have KUbuntu 5.10 Breezy. What I do to run a DivX on Kaffeine?07:20
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GenghisKhanWiLD: start kaffeine, open the divx and click play07:22
heixhow i can get frozen-bubble  (apt-get install frozen-bubble not work)???07:22
bam_did you try and see if its there first07:23
WiLDIt speak me that "There were no decoders found to handle the stream..."07:23
bam_apt-cache search frozen07:23
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heix such file or directory07:24
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heixno  such file or directory07:24
GenghisKhanWiLD: install kaffeine-xine07:24
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thegladiatorhow do i open the kcontrol from the GUI in kde ?07:24
WiLDGenghisKhan: this package is on DVD??07:25
_matthi the gladiator07:25
GenghisKhanthegladiator: K menu -> System Settings07:25
GenghisKhanWiLD: no, it's in universe07:25
_mattor open a konsole and type   sudo kcontrol07:26
_mattthen enter your password07:26
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_mattthis shows you the default kcontrol panel07:26
GenghisKhanthegladiator: but hoary has a modified control panel07:26
thegladiatorgot it07:26
thegladiatori am breezer07:26
thegladiatorlooks modified as well07:26
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thegladiatordoes kubuntu mount my hard disk ?07:27
WiLDGenghisKhan: I haven't this package, I have kaffeine-gstreamer07:27
thegladiatorlike it does in gnome?07:27
GenghisKhanthegladiator: sorry, breezy has the modified control panel07:27
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GenghisKhanWiLD: install it then07:28
_mattthegladiator - is your hard disk a ntfs format?07:28
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_mattok, go into kontrol panel then disk and filesystems07:28
_mattthis shows you the enabled hd's on your system07:29
GenghisKhanthegladiator: well, kcontrol will show the default kde pannel and K -> System Settings the kubuntu pannel07:29
_mattis the FAT on enabled?07:29
thegladiatorbut i dont see on my desktop as it does with ubuntu07:30
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_mattok does it show a mount point?07:30
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thegladiatoreven the mount point07:31
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thegladiatordo the dektop doesnt have it by default ?07:31
_mattok, can you navigate to the mount point and then enter the Fat disk from there?07:31
thegladiatorits there in gnome desktop by default07:31
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_matt(just checking that you can open the fat disk)?07:31
thegladiatori can do that as well07:32
thegladiatorthe problem is that in my gnome dek there are those icons to get in directly07:32
thegladiatornot here07:32
thegladiatorshud I paste it all over ?07:32
_mattcool!  ok on the desktop right mouse button07:32
_mattcreate new, then link to location07:33
_mattenter in the mount point to your fat disk07:33
thegladiatoryep thats shud affect my gnome dekstop i guess no ?07:33
eksajmcan i find mplayer in any repository?07:34
eksajmsorry i found it07:34
_mattthegladiator - have you installed kubuntu-desktop on a ubuntu system?07:34
_mattor is it a fresh kubuntu install?07:35
thegladiatornot fresh07:35
thegladiatorhave the breezy cd with me07:36
_mattok, lets look at the settings!07:36
_matton the desktop right mouse button - configure desktop07:36
_mattselect 'behaviour' then 'device icons'07:36
thegladiatoryeah a sec07:37
_mattis the mounted hard drive volume ticked?07:37
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thegladiatornope :)07:37
_matttry ticking it!07:37
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thegladiatoryep did that07:38
thegladiatorno effect as of now i guess07:38
thegladiatorbut i have already made links07:38
WiLDGenghisKhan: Where I can download kaffeine-xine? I haven't this package on my dvd!!!!07:38
_mattok - does this work for you?07:38
thegladiatorthis didnt make any adiitional effect07:39
GenghisKhanWiLD: add universe to your apt sources07:39
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WiLDGenghisKhan: Yes, of course07:40
thegladiator_matt, it seems some of my Icons from gnome appears without name - no name in dekstop07:40
_mattthegladiator - to be honest i only have a kubuntu installation so do not know gnome that well!07:41
thegladiatornp :)07:41
thegladiatoryou downloaded ?07:42
_mattyes - dapper drake!07:42
thegladiatorguess they dont have ship it07:42
thegladiatordapper ?07:42
thegladiatordapper will come with ship itfor k ?07:42
_matthave you managed to make a 'link' on your dekstop to your fat?07:42
thegladiatorthats nice new07:42
thegladiatori managed to do it manually07:43
_mattdapper drake will be the next version of ubuntu07:43
thegladiatorthe other thing didnt make any visible effect07:43
thegladiatoryou mean dapper is on kde ?!07:43
thegladiatorthats fabulous then i must say07:43
thegladiatorthey are leaving gnome for the good?07:43
_mattflight-2 dapper tesing CD07:44
_mattthis is a testing CD of the next version - if you wanna test it, then do.07:44
_mattbut not recommended for 'critical' systems07:44
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thegladiatori know07:44
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_mattubuntu are not leaving gnome, kubuntu is a fork using the kde desktop07:45
thegladiatori see07:45
_mattbut imho kde is better than gnome - but thats just my opinion!07:46
GenghisKhan_matt: kubuntu is not a fork, kubuntu is a set of packages in the main component of ubuntu07:46
_mattyes, sorry your correct07:46
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_mattkubuntu gives you kde desktop and ubuntu gives you gnome desktop07:47
thegladiatorfrom the live cd or the install cd ,ca n i replace my /usr/share/pixmpas directoy ?07:47
thegladiatori messed up with the directory by replicatong some of the pics07:47
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sas171is there some kde tool to establish pppoe connection?07:48
thegladiatorrestart session07:50
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_matthow many people are using/testing the flight-2 dapper drake install?07:55
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sas171ok, is there some tool to manage adsl connections?07:58
udomsakhi all07:58
sas171udomsak: =)07:59
udomsakkeycodes:   xfree86+aliases(qwerty)07:59
udomsaktypes:      complete07:59
udomsakcompat:     complete07:59
udomsaksymbols:    pc(pc104)+us+th:207:59
udomsakgeometry:   pc(pc104)07:59
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udomsakwhat mean's on symbols line ?07:59
_matthi udomsak!07:59
udomsak:2 <---  man setxkbmap ?07:59
thegladiatorit seems my My COmputer and Home are being browserd through nautilus on KDE07:59
udomsakhi _matt07:59
thegladiatorhow can I set it to open with konqueror ?07:59
sas171thegladiator: change the laucher?08:00
thegladiatorbut how can I paste it ?08:00
thegladiatorlike can I paste fmo the menus ?08:01
thegladiatordrag and drop ?08:01
sas171sorry no ideas08:01
_mattthegladiator - are you looking a going to kde permanantly?08:01
thegladiatorwhy ?08:01
thegladiatoraint that better ?08:01
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udomsakNow i can't use Alt+Shift to toggle group08:01
thegladiatori dont like nautilus08:01
_mattwould a fresh install work?08:01
thegladiatori cant do fresh install since there is no cd08:02
_mattusing the kubuntu install disk?08:02
thegladiatorand I dont have much speed to download08:02
_matti see08:02
thegladiatorthis is fine with me now i guess08:02
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jokele_matt: i used flight-2 to install my system. worked very well beside the problem, that "auto eth0" wasn't added (but that is already mentioned on the website)08:03
_mattthegladiator - you can order the cd from http://www.linuxiso.co.uk/home.php?cat=25508:04
mcscruffi have breezy running well so im not updating till Dapper is stable08:04
_mattjokele, I have the same problem with auto eth0!08:04
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thegladiatorwhats the shipping charge ?08:05
thegladiatorI am from india08:05
jokelei opened a console during the installation and added it to the interface file, that's all08:05
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_mattmaybe there is a distro distribute near you - have a look on www.distrowatch.com08:06
syli've got kubuntu from dvd... and can't find smbd08:06
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GenghisKhansyl: it's on package samba, it should be i the dvd08:06
tencohow can i view websites which are devilered as mimetype application/octet-stream?08:07
thegladiatorif I need to mak  link to the home folder , I can create a link to home ....but the ICON is blank in that case...can I do a drag ans paste link to Home nd My computer from the Desktop ?08:07
sylin adept samba is marked like installed08:07
GenghisKhansyl: then you have it installed08:08
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GenghisKhantenco: http shouldn't be delivered as octect-stream, but you can download it and then open it with konqi08:08
tencoGenghisKhan: i know, but thats awful08:08
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GenghisKhantenco: maybe you can try configuring konqui to open octect-stream with khtml, but that is even more awful08:09
syl#GenghisKhan ...but smbd is not in root path08:10
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tencoGenghisKhan: good idea :-)08:10
sylGenghisKhan: cant find smbd in init.d08:10
GenghisKhansyl: it's called /etc/init.d/samba08:10
tencoGenghisKhan: hehe, works *happy*08:11
GenghisKhantenco: you should disable it after browsing or when you go to download a file it will be opened with khtml08:12
sylGenghisKhan: i dont have it there08:12
tencoGenghisKhan: ok08:12
GenghisKhansyl: you should. look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=samba&searchmode=filelist&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i38608:15
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sylGenghisKhan: oh i believe you08:15
bahHas someone installed the KDE 3.5 packages from the kubuntu.org repository?08:17
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bahMy system became very unstable all of a sudden -- after the upgrade08:17
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johnfluxHey all08:19
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JohnFluxkubuntu doesn't set up any apt sources ;(08:22
GenghisKhanJohnFlux: what do you mean?08:22
bahThis -- go to the this page:08:23
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bahIt instructs one to set up the repository "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main"08:24
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bahSo, kubuntu.org also has an apt repository!08:25
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kkathmanbah yes08:25
GenghisKhanbah: that's the repository to install kde3.5 packages08:25
GenghisKhanbah: you can use 3.4 which is in ubuntu's main08:25
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:26
bahhow do I uninstall 3.5?08:26
kkathmanthose are the defaults08:26
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JohnFluxGenghisKhan: I mean it should add internet apt repositories to /etc/apt/sources automatically for me08:26
JohnFluxGenghisKhan: but it doesn't08:26
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bahI just followed the instructions on the above page...08:27
GenghisKhanJohnFlux: do it by hand, then08:27
JohnFluxGenghisKhan: :P08:27
bahMy problem now is: I want to get rid of all the 3.5 packages and get back to standard breezy!08:27
bahWith dpkg?08:27
GenghisKhanJohnFlux: you have them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604708:27
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deemohey guys, is there any way to make krfb accept connections through a terminal?08:30
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deemoanyone in here alive :P08:35
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thegladiatori can luanch my video files08:40
thegladiatorin kubuntu08:40
deemohey guys, is there any way to make krfb accept connections through a terminal?08:40
eksajmthegladiator, do you have codecs and a media player?08:41
thegladiatorit says cannot launch kdeinit08:41
thegladiatoryeah all that08:41
thegladiatori was playing the videe a few secs before08:41
thegladiatornow the error that comes up is08:41
eksajmoh yeah, i had some problems running things trough kdeinit.. dont remember how i fixed it though08:42
thegladiatorKDEInit ould not launch08:42
eksajmtried to laungh from comand line?08:42
thegladiatornope . but i need to fix this08:42
thegladiatorit worked a few secs before08:42
thegladiatorsomeone knows the kdeinit isues?08:43
eksajmas i said had the same prioblem08:43
eksajmdont know howto fix it08:43
eksajmsry man08:43
thegladiatorlet me ask the guys out here08:43
wedgeVhow can i add smb:// stuff to amaroks collection?08:43
wedgeV(i dont want to mount it, but use the kde io slave stuff)08:43
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thegladiatorGenghisKhan, you tehre?08:44
eksajmwedgeV, you could mount the samba share some where and then add it08:44
thegladiatormy video files are not opening08:44
thegladiatorGenghisKhan, like it says KDEInit08:45
thegladiatorfailed to open etc08:45
thegladiatori could open it a sec back08:45
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GenghisKhanthegladiator: no idea, try to log out and then log in again08:46
eksajmtried a reboot?08:46
thegladiatordid that08:46
thegladiatori was wondeeing if theme change could cause this08:46
thegladiatornot tried restart08:46
thegladiatorthats the last resort08:46
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osh_Is there a known problem with suspend-to-disk? It worked on my old laptop but not on my new one.It freezes during boot when restarting it.08:47
thegladiatorlet me try a erstart08:48
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exhumedhi. How can I set Windows to be the default choice in my grub loader? Thanks in adavance08:51
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GenghisKhanexhumed: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the default 0 line08:52
voicuHi, can someone tell me, how do I use checkinstall? Do I run it instead of 'make install' or after 'make install'?08:52
GenghisKhanexhumed: but don't do that, windows is evil :-)08:52
exhumeddon't worry, GenghisKhan08:53
exhumedthat's not my box08:53
exhumedi wouldn't do that08:53
GenghisKhanexhumed: just joking08:53
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exhumedand how can I know the correct number ?08:54
exhumedit's set to 008:54
GenghisKhanjust count. how many booting options are there?08:55
exhumedoh, 4 then08:56
exhumedand no need to grub-update or something like that ?08:56
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exhumedjust write the file ?08:56
GenghisKhanjust write08:57
exhumedok thanks08:57
exhumedbrb then08:57
exhumedlet's test it08:57
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udomsakbye all , thx in  advance08:58
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deemohey guys, Is there any way to allow connections to krfb through the terminal?08:59
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Sastkryptloxhi everyone09:00
Sastkryptloxis there anyone here, who can help me with k3b?09:01
DaSkreechI should be able to get audio files to audibly preview if I mouse over shouldn't I?09:01
GenghisKhanSastkryptlok: ask09:01
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Sastkryptloxk3b won't burn a dvd for me... the errormessage is "failed to change write speed"09:01
osh_Is there a known problem with suspend-to-disk? It worked on my old laptop but not on my new one.It freezes during boot when restarting it.09:01
Sastkryptlox"failed to change write speed: 5540 -> 11080"09:02
Sastkryptloxthat's the exact errormessage09:02
GenghisKhanSastkryptlox: sorry, no idea09:03
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Sastkryptloxthanx anyway09:03
C-O-L-THello can somebody help me please?09:03
Sastkryptloxanyone else maybe know what to do?09:03
thegladiatorhow I make the dektops seperate ? my second desktop items are also shown in the panwl09:04
Sastkryptloxit also says: "Fatal error at startup: invalid argument"09:04
Sastkryptloxnow anyone has an idea?09:05
JohnFluxSastkryptlox: #k3b would be better, no?09:06
JohnFluxSastkryptlox: or at least #kde-devel09:06
Sastkryptloxthanx ;)09:06
Sastkryptloxi'll try there ;)09:06
thegladiatorhow do i install a theme in kubuntu looks different from other kde's i have used09:06
thegladiatorcan some one tell me ?09:06
thegladiatori have many tar balls with me09:07
thegladiatormany things are not working well :(09:08
thegladiatorfor ex i cant opn login screen setup09:08
thegladiatorit doesnt oen09:08
thegladiatorhelp is very bad here at #kubuntu09:10
DaSkreechWhat do you mean Desktops seperate?09:11
rednaxelhave a seat09:11
thegladiatori fixed that09:11
thegladiatorlike the stuff meant for desktop 2 appears in desktop 1 as well09:12
thegladiatorin the taskbar i mean09:12
DaSkreechAh ok09:12
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DaSkreechDid you try adminstrator mode for the Login screen setup?09:18
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_andrewcan anyone help me with a problem with sound on my poerbook g4?09:24
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sp0lakate doesnt work, when i start it in konsole it says: kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.09:32
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sampansp0la  that probably means kate crashed before and the process is still running.  try: ps aux | grep kate ... and kill the process # -- then you should be able to start it09:34
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sampanat least, that's worked everytime i've gotten that error msg09:35
sp0laoh yay it works, thx !09:35
sampansure :)09:35
jasonwhat's the easiest way for me to fsck my filesystem (reiser, mounted as /) without a boot cd?  how can I mount it as readonly on startup?09:36
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SastkryptloxJohnFlux: hi... here i am again09:40
Sastkryptloxyou still there?09:40
JohnFluxSastkryptlox: always09:40
JohnFluxjason: mount -o remount,ro /09:40
Sastkryptloxcan I ask you a very simple question about k3b (think that might be my problem)09:40
JohnFluxSastkryptlox: #kde is a better place09:40
jasonJohnFlux: but it's in 'use'09:40
Sastkryptloxdo you know how to update the firmware of k3b?09:41
JohnFluxjason: it won't let you do that remount?09:41
Sastkryptloxokay... then i'll try there09:41
jasonJohnFlux: nope, let me try again09:41
Sastkryptloxor do you know the answer?09:41
jasonmount: / is busy09:41
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sp0lawhats the diffrence between ALSA and arts?09:41
JohnFluxSastkryptlox: what firmware??09:41
JohnFluxsp0la: alsa is the collection of sound card 'drivers'09:42
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Sastkryptloxof my dvd-burner drive09:42
JohnFluxsp0la: arts is a mixer.  both are required.09:42
JohnFluxSastkryptlox: no idea09:42
Sastkryptloxkay, thanx - i'll try in #kde09:42
sp0laok, thx09:43
jasonis there a run-level that'll do readonly mounting?09:44
JohnFluxjason: kubuntu adds a 'safe' mode, no?09:44
JohnFluxjason: rescue or whatever09:44
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jasonyup.. oh ok didnt know that was reado nly09:44
JohnFluxjason: probably.  if not you should be able to remount readonly09:45
JohnFluxjason: since little will be running09:45
jasonlet me go test.. thanks for the help09:45
sp0lait mounts rw09:45
thegladiatorjason, wre u using fc4 before ?09:47
thegladiatoror ubutu before...09:47
thegladiatorsure we have met somewhere09:47
sp0lahe just quit lol09:48
thegladiatorhes gone :)09:48
thegladiatorwhats the bot out here ?09:48
ubotuthanks thegladiator :)09:48
ubotuthanks thegladiator :)09:48
thegladiatorah same kewl09:48
thegladiatorsp0la, why do you like kde over gnome?09:49
sp0lawell ubuntu suddenly refused to run X09:50
thegladiatorsomeone out here ?09:50
thegladiatormy kde is not working09:50
sp0laso i reinstalled it, but i got kubuntu by accident, and i like it better09:50
thegladiatortrue better09:50
_matthi thegladiator!09:50
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thegladiatoramarok is not working09:50
thegladiatorhi _matt!09:50
_mattkde had better intergation between the programs09:50
thegladiatorkonqueror is just amazing09:51
sp0layeah, like open media:/hda in konquerer (hda = my cdrom) its amazing09:51
thegladiatorhow can i amarok ?09:51
thegladiatorthe error is09:51
_matthave you found a cd distributor in india that you could order kubuntu from?09:52
thegladiatorgstreamer error09:52
sp0laamarok is pretty cool but i only use about 5% of it's functions09:52
thegladiatornopt yet09:52
thegladiatorkde on ubuntu is perfect09:52
thegladiatorit says g streamer error09:52
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thegladiatorit was working wll with gnome09:52
thegladiatormayb i shud reinstall09:52
sp0lathegladiator, mp3 playback probably isnt a-o-k09:52
thegladiatorhow do i ?09:52
thegladiatora-ok ?09:53
sp0lagoogle it09:53
thegladiatorsp0la, it was working fine in gnome09:53
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sp0ladid you googled the error yet?09:54
thegladiatori cant see the full error09:54
thegladiatorit is shown in the GUI at the bottom09:54
sp0laleft bottom ?09:54
sp0ladoes it kinda "slide up" ?09:54
_mattthegladiator - http://www.linuxcd.org will distribute world wide09:54
thegladiatorno sliding :(09:54
_mattI would recommend a clean install with kubuntu!09:54
thegladiatorthanks matt09:54
thegladiatorbut shud I ?09:55
thegladiatorah i see09:55
thegladiatoryeah gotta think09:55
thegladiatori will try a reinstall first09:55
_mattif your having a few problems its probably best!09:55
thegladiatorthe erroe is like09:55
sp0laalso, when you re-install, try to seperate a partition for /home09:55
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thegladiatorbut that will have to wait till I get the cd :(09:55
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fatalblu|questhey who do I have to talk to about mirroring?09:56
sas171hi, i have te good old problem with the pppoeconf and rebooting09:56
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thegladiatorcan you tell the command to resinatall amarok ?09:56
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sas171i found some sollutions on the ubuntu forum but Im not able to fix it now.09:57
thegladiatorsudo apt-get ?09:57
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_mattadept manager should do it!09:57
thegladiatordont u use synaptic?09:58
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sas171Every time Im restarting the system I have to make pppoeconf, so connection on the boot time and pon dsl-provider are not working. Please help me, i spent 2 hours to search some sollution on the ubuntu forums but nothing helped.09:59
sp0lathegladiator, no, on kde i use either adept or kpackage09:59
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sampanthegladiator  kubuntu installs adept, not synaptic (if you install kde on top of ubuntu, then you have both, but people who install only kubuntu won't have synaptic)09:59
sp0lasas171, man interfaces ... you need an "up" line right under the eth0 line10:00
sas171do you mean this line? "pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth1 up # line maintained by pppoeconf"10:00
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thegladiatorthere was an update for gstreamer10:00
thegladiatori am downlaodig that.../10:01
thegladiatoramarok gstreamer i.e10:01
striderhow do I add custom partitions under media in Konqueror?10:01
thegladiatorstrider, means ?10:01
thegladiatorlike your harddisk partitions ?10:01
sp0lathegladiator, good idea, try everything you can before re-installing ;-)10:01
thegladiatoryep :)10:01
thegladiatoryou can create a link10:01
striderit used to be there before10:02
thegladiatorsee if it is mounetd first10:02
striderit is10:02
thegladiatorthats in gnome nah ?10:02
sp0lasas171, well, pre-up is not excactly what you need i think, man it ... its all there. i used to have an ISP that required you to login to a HTML form before surfin and i solved that with an up line10:02
thegladiatorin KDE it is not placed in Dektop10:02
striderI meant media on the default konqueror start page10:02
sp0lastrider, what do you mean a custm partition ? do you want to auto-mount a partition (eg your "media" partition) ?10:03
striderSory, storage media10:03
sas171sp0la: how can i help you to help me? =)10:03
sas171i dont now what do you mean "up line"10:03
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striderOr let me rephrase the question10:03
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striderI have 3 other partitions on the HDD. I want to be able to access them quickly.10:04
sp0lasas171, well, you want to automate a call to pppoeconfig right?10:04
striderI don't want to type in /media/name always10:04
sas171sp0la: right10:04
striderIn hoary it used to be automatically under Storage media in Konqi10:05
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DaSkreechis there a way to see the details of the updates?10:06
sp0laifconfig allows you to automatically run commands when an interface is being brought up/down. example= when you put eg "up /sbin/halt" right under your "eth0 inet dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces, your computer will shutdown when you go online10:06
thegladiatorwhichs the output plugin for amarok ?10:06
thegladiatoralsa or...10:06
sp0layou need to find out what to put there instead of halt (cant help you there)10:06
thegladiatorsomething else ?10:06
striderAll i see under Storage media and righly are my USB partitions. What about the HDD partiions itself10:07
sp0lasas171, im guessing something like "up ppoeconfig --user booh --password baah" (wild guess)10:07
sas171sp0la: ok, thank you Ill try10:08
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angasulewhat's a good ftp client for KDE? KBear crashes a lot10:11
sp0laangasule, i use gftp10:11
angasuleDaSkreech: frankly, konqueror for handling files is too basic10:12
DaSkreechHow so?10:12
thegladiatorwell is there any means by which I could remove the "Arrow" mark from all the links that I have in my dektop , like to my Home folder etc...10:12
angasulehmm, gftp wasn't very stable last time I used it, either, plus I'd really like a KDE program, otherwise I might as well stick with mc :)10:12
thegladiatorit has a arrow in the ICON10:12
sp0laomg konquerer does ftp n it owns10:12
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angasuleDaSkreech: I don't like konqueror for file managing, it feels like a web browser10:14
kkathmansp0la: its really not so much Konqueror...its the same for any KDE app actually10:14
sp0laif i can just get konqi to have mouse gestures like opera i think im addicted10:15
sp0lakkathman, really? man kde blows my mind. does gnome have this too and did i just miss it?10:15
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DaSkreechangasule: Funny I don't like using Konquror as a web browser cause it feels too much like a file browser10:17
kkathmansp0la: I imagine gnome has its own things, but the kIOslave is what enables alot of that...for instance krusader, a file manager, has that same capability10:17
sp0lahmm i never heard of krusader, is it worth checking out?10:18
angasulekkathman: thanks, krusader sounds like what I'm looking for10:18
kkathmansp0la: you can even open up your amarok and play things from remote systems if the privileges are ok10:18
kkathmanangasule: its a very very good file manager10:18
thegladiatorkde looks more stable than gnome so far10:18
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angasuleI've been a fan of twin panel for a very long time, nc over xtreegold any time :)10:19
angasulewas it xtree? I'm no good with names, anyway10:19
sp0lakkathman, cool ! although i must say that FUSE sounds a bit more flexible then K's mechanism10:20
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sas171sp0la: in ubuntu i used "sudo gedit" what can i use to edit conf files under Kubuntu... im not used to pico10:59
hussamsp0la: Ok, I found the problem.firefox says: the certificate expired on 24/12/2005 and I should contact the author of the site11:00
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crownhello. why my kmail is not capable to display inline images? is this normal?11:01
sp0lasas171, kwrite11:02
angasule_sander: System->Settings->Appearance&Themes->Theme Manager11:02
sas171sp0la: here are my interfaces http://pastebin.com/48924611:02
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sp0lacrown, security feature ... suppose a spammer send you a mail with and image in it that links to http://www.spam.com/img.png?validated_address=crown@cr0wn.net ...11:03
hussamsp0la: I deleted the ssl stored certificates in firefox and I think this helped.11:03
sp0lahussam, if it works, consider adding the solution to the wiki11:04
crownsp0la: that's ok. but it SUPPOSED to display inline images, when i allow it. but it's failed to show them11:04
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hussamsp0la: oops, no that didn't work. what happens is that it won't let me permanently accept the ssl certificate because it has expired last month. I can only accept it tmporarily.11:05
sp0lasas171, wait a min ... do you have two network interfaces ?11:06
_sanderangasule: I think my system has messed up menus. I started with an ubuntu beta, the installed kubunutu-desktop and subsequently 3.5. Somewhere in there the system menu must have removed the settings menu.11:06
sas171sp0la: yes, first is native, but im no using it, and the second that worked under ubuntu11:06
sp0lahussam, what version of firefox are you using ? consider backing up your bookmarks and reinstalling firefox to the latest version.11:07
_sanderI'll see if I can find the command line option and launch it that way.11:07
hussamsp0la: firefox 1.5 branch 20051230 nightly.11:07
sp0lasas171, did you write that file ? it looks like its not even valid11:08
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sas171sp0la: no it was automatically written by pppoeconf11:08
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_sanderDoh, kdeartwork wasn't installed. Thanks for your help angasule.11:09
sp0lasas171, id just write a new one from scratch11:14
sp0laread man interfaces11:14
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sp0laand google for "(ubuntu OR debian) adsl"11:14
kkathmanfunny how Linux can be so cotton pickin finicky11:14
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sas171sp0la: ok, thank you anyway11:15
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DaSkreechnalioth: Hi11:21
DaSkreechnalioth: Can I have a audible preview for audio files?11:22
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naliothDaSkreech: you should have that (if you use gnome)11:25
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DaSkreechnalioth: Suppose I do not :)11:26
naliothDaSkreech: then i have no clue.11:27
DaSkreechMan :-(11:27
DaSkreechLook it Previews at the bottom11:28
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sas171i can access administrator mode in the systems settings dialog, can someboy help me?11:31
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sas171* i cant11:31
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lwizardlcan someone help me with getting thoggen to work?11:32
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pointwoodis it possible to have konsole to save the different history of each tab I have opened when the session is saved (when I shutdown my machine)?11:34
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sas171damn, i think i have to switch back to ubuntu =(11:38
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sampansas171  is it the admin mode that is causing problems? (fresh install of kubuntu breezy?)11:39
sas171sampan: yes, it is11:40
sampanif so, that was a known bug -- fixed quite promptly (a week or so) after breezy release11:40
DaSkreechpointwood: Sure11:40
sampansas171  if you update your system (sudo adept-updater or in kmenu), it should be fixed11:40
raphinksas171: you just need to upgrade your box11:40
pointwoodDaSkreech: how? :)11:40
DaSkreechKDe blames Kubuntu :)11:40
raphinkDaSkreech: ??11:41
sas171lol, it was all right _before_ i did update11:41
DaSkreechraphink: For the Audio Preview11:41
raphinkhow do you mean DaSkreech ?11:41
raphinkwhat's wrong with the audio preview?11:41
sampansas171  then your answer saying it was a "fresh" install was inaccurate11:41
DaSkreechraphink: Doesn't work for me11:41
DaSkreechraphink: Mouse over correct?11:42
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pointwoodDaSkreech: do you know how to do that?11:42
DaSkreechpointwood: Umm I think it's like that by default11:42
sas171sampan: sorry, i mean fresh is today installed11:42
pointwoodnot here11:42
DaSkreechpointwood: It's something to do with save settings when you click logout11:42
pointwoodokay, I'll look there11:42
sampansas171  no worries -- if updating CAUSED the problem, then i have no idea how to fix it -- all the admin mode problems i've seen in here were cured by a simple update11:42
DaSkreechpointwood: Control Center -> user Accounts -> Session Manager11:43
sas171sampan: ok ill run update manager again11:43
DaSkreechpointwood: On Login restore previous session11:43
DaSkreechraphink: Audio previews work for you?11:44
raphinkit used to work11:44
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pointwoodDaSkreech: That's how it is set now11:44
DaSkreechraphink: It no longer does?11:44
raphinkthen it would crash konqueror11:44
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Lord_Athurhi all11:44
raphinknow it doesn' twork11:44
sampanharfd to tuyope like thjid11:44
DaSkreechpointwood: And you have konqueror open when you log out?11:44
raphinknot in breezy, no11:45
sas171sampan: ?11:45
divansantanaHello!I'm wondering can someone help me?I have a laptop with wierd Screen/Graphics problems,its a problem with the laptop.In WinXP u cn fix it buy turning troubleshooting graphics down.11:45
pointwoodDaSkreech: yes11:45
sampan(hard to type with fingers crossed)11:45
Lord_AthurI could not mount an initrd file of a livecd distro, what can i do?11:45
_hobbeshi folks11:45
divansantanaHow do I do a similar thing in Kubuntu?? xorg.conf ??11:45
raphinkI'll see in dapper DaSkreech11:45
DaSkreechraphink: so Breezy broke it11:45
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DaSkreech#kde is right :)11:45
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raphinkDaSkreech: and what did _you_ do to fix it if you're bothered?11:45
phatmonkeyis there a way of finding out what driver my xorg is running currently? I don't think it's reading xorg.conf properly11:45
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DaSkreechi played with Konqueror settings previews and view -> previews -> sound previews11:46
DaSkreechLooked it up on docs.kde.org11:46
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orugoim a newbie11:47
orugoi have to say11:47
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orugoxfce RULEZ11:47
sas171damn kde+ubuntu=frustration11:47
pointwoodDaSkreech: what does konqueror have to do with konsole? I do have the history, but it is a unified history instead of separate for each tab11:47
kkathmansas171 why so?11:47
Link`sAdventureI'm having major issues with Qt4 dev packages11:47
Link`sAdventureit's using the wrong uic and stuff11:47
orugowhats the best msn client?11:47
_voodooi got question about ntfs11:47
DaSkreechpointwood: Wait you said konsole? :)11:47
Link`sAdventureit's using uic for Qt3 when I used qmake-qt411:47
kkathmanorugo either kopete or gaim11:48
Link`sAdventuretry GAIM11:48
_voodooi got question about ntfs11:48
pointwoodDaSkreech: yes :)11:48
raphinkDaSkreech: KFileMetaInfo: WARNING: error loading the plugin from kfile_mp3.desktop11:48
sas171sampan: 2 unsolved bugs in 1 hour11:48
_voodoowho can help me11:48
_voodooi got question about ntfs11:48
_voodooi got question about ntfs11:48
kkathmanGAIM is more gnomish, kopete is more KDE-ish11:48
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Link`sAdventurewhat's the problem11:48
raphinkthat's what I get when going over a sound file in konqueror with the preview on11:48
sampankkathman  he's (sas171) run into the admin mode bug, but says that updating CAUSED the problem and doesn't fix it  -- not sure how to help :/11:48
kkathmansampan I doubt that11:48
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sampansas171  hey i feel your pain -- i'm STILL waiting for usable SCIM packages on kubuntu11:48
orugoi use xfce11:49
_voodooi can not make mt external usb hdd11:49
orugothey work anyway?11:49
_voodooi can not make mt external usb hdd11:49
kkathmansas171 I'll wager your sources.list arent quite right11:49
Link`sAdventuremake mt is... ?11:49
kkathmanthats about a 90% chance11:49
sas171sampan: yeah, and want just right pppoe connection and admin mode =)11:49
DaSkreechraphink: I get nothing11:49
sas171*I want11:50
_voodooi cant make my externel usb hdd visible11:50
raphinkDaSkreech: I mean having launched konqueror in a konsole. but that is not what we need though11:50
JohnFluxhow do I mount windows to /mnt/win and let all users see it11:50
kkathmansampan apparently he is ignoring me :)11:50
Link`sAdventureI'm having major issues with Qt4 dev packages11:50
Link`sAdventureit's using the wrong uic and stuff11:50
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Link`sAdventureit's using uic for Qt3 when I used qmake-qt411:50
sas171kkathman: what sources do you mean?11:50
sampankkathman  lol -- what he doesn't know is that you're FAR more qualified to help than i am!11:50
JohnFluxI added it to /etc/fstab  but a normal user can't see it11:50
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kkathmanJohnFlux: you'll need to set up smb credentials ...assuming you are using Samba11:50
raphinkDaSkreech: did you report the bug ?11:51
Xemanth^^^why i can't see my portable lacie hddi in fdisk -l11:51
JohnFluxkkathman: for a normal ntfs partition?11:51
DaSkreechraphink: I don't know it's a bug yet11:51
kkathmanahh not for an NTFS11:51
_voodooi cant make my externel usb hdd visible11:51
sas171kkathman: do you mean repos?11:51
Xemanth^^^yeah i can see it in dmesg11:51
JohnFluxkkathman: you're thinking NFS i think11:51
kkathmanJohnFlux:  I thought you might be using Samba like I do11:51
NachLink`sAdventure, I don't think repeating yourself will help, doesn't look like #kubuntu wants to support broken packages11:51
raphinkDaSkreech: well it doesn't work and you acn't set it, so it's a bug11:51
raphinkDaSkreech: please report it11:51
Link`sAdventureGuess I gotta go install gentoo or smth :(11:52
kkathmanJohnFlux: on my system samba has to have a smbcredentials file to validate login from a win machine11:52
kkathmancould be similar for NTFS but I dont know11:52
kkathmansas171: /etc/apt/sources.list11:52
NachLink`sAdventure, nah, you probably want Debian, Kubuntu is based off of Debian, but Debian doesn't have broken Qt Dev packages at the moment11:52
Link`sAdventureNach: Debian's got like 10,000 CD's to it :(11:52
DaSkreechI have another bug/wishlist for today11:53
Link`sAdventureOr else I'd go for it. :p11:53
DaSkreechraphink: launchpad?11:53
Xemanth^^^Debian has only one net install image ^11:53
raphinkDaSkreech: depends if it's linked to universe or main11:53
kkathmanNach: lots of ubuntu devs are using the QT libs so I dont know that they are "broken"..if so, please make sure you file an entry in bugzilla.ubuntu.com11:53
Nachkkathman, don't tell me, Link`sAdventure is the one with the problem11:54
raphinkDaSkreech: if it's directly linked to konqueror then it's main, so it's bugzilla, not LP11:54
NachLink`sAdventure, Debian net install CD is ~500MB, and then you only need to download ~400MB of packages to get a full system after that with KDE and goodies11:54
sas171kkathman: they are 100% right i enabled them with adept11:54
Link`sAdventureWhy wasn't I told of this11:54
Xemanth^^^debian net install image is like 100mb~11:54
Nachonly 100MB?11:54
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lwizardlwhat program can i use to backup dvds11:54
Xemanth^^^Nach: yop11:54
kkathmansas171 would you mind if I asked you to post them (paste) to paste.ubuntu-nl.com ??11:55
raphinklwizardl: k3b11:55
kkathmanalot of people think they are right :)11:55
sas171kkathman: http://pastebin.com/48933811:55
lwizardlraphink: but what about if larger than dvd511:55
kkathmanthe admin mode problem was fixed with the first kubuntu patch about 3 days after it was released11:55
Nachkkathman, and when you say lots of devs are using Qt libs, are you referring to Qt 4 or 3?11:55
kkathmanNach: both11:56
Nachsince most packages except very recent ones all use 311:56
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kkathmansas171 theres the problem11:56
raphinklwizardl: huh?11:56
kkathmansas171 as I suspected :)11:56
lwizardlwhat about shrinking the disc11:57
JohnFluxfor the propriety nvidia driver, should xorg.conf say Driver "nvidia"  or Driver "nv"11:57
sas171kkathman: ok, its probably some _K_ubuntu addon and i cant enable them all, right?11:57
JohnFluxI get mixed up11:57
lwizardlto fit on a dvd511:57
raphinklwizardl: what is a dvd5?11:58
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lwizardlk3b says can't copy encrypter dvds11:58
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lwizardldvd5 is a dvd that its under 5 gigs usually 4.3gb11:58
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raphinkwell that's a normal DVD that is11:59
raphinkall the DVDs I used to far are 4.3GB11:59
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NachWow, Link`sAdventure: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r1/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r1a-i386-netinst.iso only 108MB11:59
kkathmansas171 - please edit your /etc/apt/sources.list with your favorite editor at root, and please put a # in front of line 1. Then save the file and do a sudo apt-get update.11:59
pointwoodis there a website or mailing list or whatever where it is possible to follow updates to kubuntu/ubuntu?11:59
Link`sAdventureI guess I can be back up and running real soon. :)11:59
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raphinkpointwood: updates to dapper ?12:00
kkathmansas171 the reason it "caused" the admin prob is that its only looking at the CDROM and it put the "bad" code back each time.12:00
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pointwoodraphink: no, breezy, current stable release12:00
raphinkah ok12:00
raphinkmaybe breezy-changes12:00
kkathmansas171: once you comment out the CD ROM line, and update, you will be fine.12:00
raphinksince dapper updates is on dapper-changes ;)12:01
pointwoodraphink: that's a mailing list?12:01
kkathmansas171 you'll then need to run adept after your apt-get update.12:01
raphinkI guess12:01
kkathmanhey raphink ;)12:01
raphinkhey kkathman :)12:01
kkathmangreets bro :)12:01
raphinkgreets too <><12:02
DaSkreechhi kkathman raphink12:02
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raphinkDaSkreech: lol12:02
kkathmanhowdy DaSkreech12:02
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