12:01simonhellstromi have nothing
12:01aildI was using the edgy version... I installed the ubuntu feisty.. now sometimes my screen goes blank and the computer freezes ..
12:01amigamiaKrakensDen  thanks
12:01KrakensDenamigamia, and if you're on ubuntu now
12:01aildim trying to install the restricted drivers..
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12:01KrakensDenamigamia, in the firefox search box
12:01wimdowsstefg - cheers, I'll check it out
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12:01aildthe screen goes blank like... white lol
12:01KrakensDenamigamia, click on the google icon, and you can select a different search service
12:01thelostpatroli need help compiling something
12:01KrakensDenamigamia, like the ubuntu package search :)
12:01amigamiaKrakensDen  no i am not using ubuntu on this workstation
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12:02linkmasteris there such thing as an "ubuntu shell"?
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12:02linkmasterlike theres unix shells..
12:02stefgwimdows: you'll probaly not want to run an apache-server just for simple straming you movies from the office to the bedroom :-)
12:02Cafe_pyalais there any tut on installing compiz on ati card in ubuntu 7.04
12:02muszekhi... I've installed (a long time ago... probably around hoary) java 1.5.0_05 from sun's site (not from repos).  What should I do to remove it?  Installing/removing java from repos doesn't touch those files.  java -version keeps returning "1.5.0_05"
12:02amigamiai am so disgusted with these problems that occured by the blackhat crackers to the server at the moment that i decided to jsut switch gears and go with another distro.
12:02KrakensDenamigamia, ah well. It's a nice feature
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12:02Hamm_laptopany one familiar with Secretmaryo ?
12:02usserlinkmaster: no shell is the same everywhere
12:02linkmasterwhat you mean?
12:02usserlinkmaster: shells rather
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12:03linkmasterohh
12:03amigamiaheh i am SO BITTER..
12:03amigamiaanywa
12:03usserlinkmaster: bash,csh,ksh they are all unix/linux
12:03amigamiaanyway
12:03linkmasteroh thanks usser!!!!!!
12:03usserlinkmaster: and theres ksh for mac even =)
12:03KrakensDenamigamia, yeah, horde2 and horde3 are in dapper, in universe
12:03kb_ amigamia: eh.. if you keep up with security patches, most distributions will be about the same, security-wise, i'd think
12:03aildbrb
12:03aildreboot
12:03wimdowsstefg - it wouldn't matter - I have a dedicated server box (which currently runs Windows 2003) with hardware RAID 5...but am thinking of switching to Ubuntu Server
12:03usserlinkmaster: default in ubuntu is bash
12:04Cafe_pyalacan any body help me installing compiz on ubuntu 7.04
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12:04Dave_is_sexycan anyone tell me about continuing a multisession disc. i have tried all the gtk burners i can find, and nothing has this option visable
12:04amigamiawell kb_ it was my error to have not thought about the horde updates, i admit that, but i completely forgot about metadot of which we dont even use and that was another problem that broke the camels back.
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12:04kb_amigamia: metadot was the vulnerable package?
12:04amigamiayes
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12:05Eldahurray, Im proud of myself.  Managed to retrieve my files I backed up onto the xbox and stick them back here
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12:05kb_ah... yeah, you want to remove as many unneeded packages as possible, if security is your goal
12:05amigamiahorde 2x stated the whole problem
12:05pbeesley1989I have a problem with xine, ffmpeg and w32codecs. If I remove ffmpeg, xine uses the w32codecs okay, but I want to have both installed and give priority to w32codecs since some are better quality. Can that be done?
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12:05amigamiayes
12:05EldaGot a modified xbox, and Ive found aside from entertainment its good for backing stuff up between reinstalling OSes xD
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12:05amigamiai learned a difficult lesson
12:05nickspoonHey Jack.
12:05nickspoonBlah.
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12:05vbabiyhey guys how can i get a user id in the bash sheel
12:05vbabiyshell
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12:06kb_vbabiy: whoami
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12:06bobovskihi all. is anyone willing to help me get a wired network connection going? I just installed ubuntu 7.04 on a friend's computer and the icon says there's no network connenction...what can I do now? All cables are plugged in etc
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12:06kb_amigamia: yeah - i've never been cracked, to the best of my knowledge, but i've wiped out my own systems by accident before - it's not fun stuff
12:06Dave_is_sexybobovski: sudo aptitude install network-manager
12:06kb_bobovski: what does ifconfig say?
12:07amigamiakd_ that is what has me so bitter, i just did that very thing.
12:07stefgvbabiy: $UID is an env-variable
12:07amigamiaby accident
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12:07kb_amigamia: ahh, ouch; that hurts
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12:07amigamiayep
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12:07amigamialess than 30 min ago.
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12:07dooglusDave_is_sexy: you need to install package libcdio-cdda-dev
12:07vbabiythank stefg
12:07kb_amigamia: ah, it hurts most when it's fresh
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12:08Cafe_pyalais compiz stable
12:08dooglus!info libcdio-cdda-dev
12:08ubotulibcdio-cdda-dev: library to read and control digital audio CDs (development files). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.76-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 92 kB, installed size 180 kB
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12:08AloneaOk, I see a lot of people talking about this vmware thing, and I don't understand what its exact purpose is. I went to website, but I still don't get it.
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12:08amigamiakb_ lol you bet. now i have to drive thru rush hour and figure what i want to do and on top of it i have to come up with an explanation of what happened.
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12:08bobovskiDave_is_sexy: ok, no change
12:08Cosmo_when I boot up my laptop it goes into a text mode and says this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19172/ when I try to use control-d or input any other command it says bash: command not found, anyone know how to fix this?
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12:08ivanzinanybody to help me??
12:08Dave_is_sexydooglus: ta. yes i've figured that now. this 'building tag database' in aptitude seems so unnesessary
12:08bobovskikb_: ifconfig gives a >
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12:09kb_Alonea: it's an emulator; it lets you run more ('virtualized') operating systems at the same time, without having them interfere with each other, on one machine
12:09Dave_is_sexybobovski: oh. did it install?
12:09dooglusDave_is_sexy: I avoid aptitude and just use apt-get
12:09dooglusDave_is_sexy: you'll need libcdio-paranoia-dev too
12:09kb_bobovski: ehm, that's odd
12:09Firippucan sombody help me install fluxbox, i have it installed but gnome only starts
12:09crdlbCafe_pyala: it depends on your video drivers and what platform your run it on
12:09Dave_is_sexydooglus: oh aptitude keeps track of dependencies. much better if you come to uninstall something
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12:09MenZaFirippu: change your session on gdm
12:09MenZayour login screen
12:09dooglusFirippu: from the login screen, click the 'options' thing in the bottom left and select session 'fluxbox'
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12:09linkmasteris it possible to dualboot windows and ubuntu?
12:09kane77Firippu, change the session at the login screen
12:10crdlblinkmaster: yes
12:10dooglusDave_is_sexy: I use debfoster for that
12:10Cafe_pyalaCrdlb: I have ati card and ubuntu 7.04
12:10bobovskiDave_is sexy: not that I could see
12:10crdlbCafe_pyala: ati what?
12:10Dave_is_sexydooglus: noted
12:10linkmastercrdlb: is there a guide somewhere on the web?
12:10EldaHmmm, I have to create a folder to store some junk.  Where would be a good idea to do it?  Im thinking on putting it in /etc/ but I dont know where is a "good" place to put it :> Sorry if I sound like a complete idiot, hehe
12:10bobovskikb_: what are you looking for from the ifconfig reply?
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12:10bobovskikb_: he had a mistype
12:10h4wk0!lvm
12:10ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
12:10amigamiais something wrong with the mirrors?
12:10crdlb!dualboot | linkmaster
12:10kane77Elda, /tmp
12:10ubotulinkmaster: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
12:10stefg!fhs | Elda
12:10ubotuElda: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
12:10dooglusamigamia: I think so.  Every time I look in them I see an ugly old man looking back.
12:10linkmasterthanks!!!!!
12:10kb_bobovski: if you have any network interfaces up (a few letters followed by a number in the first column)
12:11bobovskieth0 and lo seem to be there
12:11amigamiadooglus :D
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12:11Cafe_pyalaCrdlb: ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M
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12:11kb_bobovski: ok, is it a wired network with fixed ip addresses, or dhcp?
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12:11dooglusDave_is_sexy: you'll need package libcddb2-dev too :)
12:11Firippui found it. thanks all!
12:11Eldakane, its not a temporary file though :>  Its a ollection of images etc that I want to store
12:11vbabiy!cifs
12:11dooglusDave_is_sexy: lots of dependencies for this one!
12:11ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
12:11stefgElda: /etc is probably the worst place to it... /var/junk ?
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12:11bobovskikb_: it's a dsl connection behind a router. should we reset the router?
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12:11Eldakk
12:11crdlbCafe_pyala: then you have to enable the restricted driver and set up Xgl, but it should be (relatively) stable, and it will be FAR more stable than beryl
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12:11bobovskikb_: wired with me on the wireless on my laptop atm
12:11crdlbbecause it's Xgl
12:12kane77Elda, so why not in $home?
12:12Cafe_pyalaso i need to install xgl or compiz
12:12kb_bobovski: hm... i wouldn't start by doing that.  i'd make sure you had an ip (either self-assigned in the right range, or from dhcp), and then try to ping the router
12:12OuZowill Ubuntu-live be broadcast or will there be videos on youtube of what happened? thanks
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12:12Eldableh beryl is evil :> I spent an hour or so isntalling it and preparing it.  The manager came up and all that but no nifty windows rotatey boxy thing
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12:12amigamiaumm are the mirrors down?
12:12crdlbCafe_pyala: compiz is installed with ubuntu feisty, but you need to install and set up Xgl
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12:12bobovskikb_: ok, how does he check if he has an ip?
12:12Cafe_pyalaok
12:13stefg!beryl
12:13ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
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12:13Dave_is_sexybobovski: oh you're lucky your wirelsss works. i am on the floor cos mine doesn't!
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12:13Elda^ evil
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12:13kb_bobovski: ifconfig - check for a line like inet addr:192.168.0.3  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
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12:13crdlbCafe_pyala: enable the restricted driver in the restricted manager, and follow method A of: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
12:13crdlbthen just enable desktop effects from the Xgl session
12:13Hadronsomething strange just happened. I booted and gnome said its settings were at odds with x. I selected the gnome ones over x. As a result my german kbd settings were. lost. Now I have set them back my tilde ~ key mus be pressed twice to get the tilde character to appear. Anyone have any ideas how to correct this?
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12:14kb_Hadron: nodeadkeys
12:14bobovskikb_: there's an inet addr on lo
12:14Hadronkb_: where do I specify this in gnome?
12:14kb_bobovski: yes, 127.0.0.1 - ignore that, i care about eth0
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12:14bobovskikb_: nothing on eth0
12:14crdlbCafe_pyala: yeah come to #ubuntu-effects
12:14kb_Hadron: no idea, i haven't used gnome in about 7 years, sorry
12:14Dave_is_sexyconfig.status: error: cannot find input file: src/Makefile.in
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12:14Dave_is_sexywhy?
12:14dooglusDave_is_sexy: this: "sudo apt-get install libcdio-dev libcdio-cdda-dev libcdio-paranoia-dev libcddb2-dev" installed all the deps I needed to get ./configure to run
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12:15Dave_is_sexydooglus: it ran now, just the error above ^^
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12:15dooglusDave_is_sexy: I have that file: -rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris 31504 2007-02-12 00:05 ripoff-0.8.2/src/Makefile.in
12:15bobovskikb_: I mean no inet etc listed after eth0
12:15dooglusDave_is_sexy: don't you have a Makefile.in in the 'src' directory?
12:15kb_bobovski: ok - is the router set up to give out addresses via dhcp?
12:16user-landHi, is it easy to copy Grub from the MBR of one disk to the other ?
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12:16Dave_is_sexydooglus: er, yes i do
12:16dooglusDave_is_sexy: it's part of the standard source release, from sf.net
12:16bobovskikb_: hurm. Let me check. it was working out ok on windows. Let me see...
12:16kb_user-land: the best way to do that is probably to run grub and just install it onto the new drive
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12:16dooglusDave_is_sexy: did you try running config.status instead of ./configure?  (you shouldn't)
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12:16Dave_is_sexydooglus: ok, well now i get errors about vorbis.so
12:16kb_bobovski: then it probably does
12:17dooglusDave_is_sexy: from ./configure?
12:17Cosmo_when I boot up my laptop it goes into a text mode and says this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19172/ when I try to use control-d or input any other command it says bash: command not found, anyone know how to fix this?
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12:17dooglusDave_is_sexy: or from make?
12:17Dave_is_sexyfrom make
12:17bobovskikb_: the machine in question cannot access the router
12:17kb_bobovski: what do you mean?
12:17Dave_is_sexydooglus: config.status not found
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12:17dooglusCosmo_: I think you should boot from the live CD and run fsck on your root partition from there.  it's telling you the partition is corrupted somehow
12:18dooglusDave_is_sexy: I didn't try a 'make' yet.
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12:18Cosmo_dooglus: thanks
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12:18dooglusDave_is_sexy: I did now, and it went through fine.  can you pastebin the error from 'make'?
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12:18timewritershould i choose the 64bit version , for Intel pentium D ?
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12:18dooglusDave_is_sexy: (assuming ./configure has run without error already)
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12:18bobovskikb_: like, if I open a browser and then type in the router address, it says it can't get to it
12:18shatrattimewriter, I wouldnt, more trouble than it's worth
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12:19timewriterok
12:19crdlbtimewriter: no there's no good reason to use 64bit on a desktop
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12:19kneekiHmm, an SVN is something I add to my Software Sources correct?
12:19kb_kb_: ok, well, try running dhcpcd eth0 or dhcpclient eth0 (i'm not sure which ubuntu uses)
12:19kb_erm, bobovski even
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12:19Dave_is_sexydooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471461
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12:19timewriterhmm
12:19timewriteri get 404
12:19kneeki!svn
12:19ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
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12:19timewriterwhen i try to download
12:20user-landwhat should i tell grub, kb_ ? do i need to run it as root ?
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12:20amigamiaubuntu.com is having problems?
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12:20kb_user-land: what you need to tell it depends on what the drive is, and yes, you should run it as root
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12:20dooglusDave_is_sexy: can you pastebin the output from "ls -l src/Makefile.in"
12:20robzbobhi all, how do I adjust my firewall settings?  I tried to install webmin but synaptic said it could not find it.
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12:20user-landsda, kb_
12:20kb_user-land: ok, do you have any ide drives?
12:21dooglus!firestarter
12:21ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
12:21robzbobty
12:21hellcattravoi how do i get to teh old printer adder, where I could actually add the IP of teh pritner
12:21timewriterInternet explorer has problems i guess
12:21timewriterwith mozilla everything went fine
12:21user-landyes, hdc has the correct ubuntu grub entry.
12:21Dave_is_sexydooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471468
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12:22kb_user-land: ok, well, you'll need to figure out which one grub is seeing as hd0 and which as hd1
12:22kb_then, whichever one maps to sda, you should type root (hdX) on
12:22dooglusDave_is_sexy: do you still have the downloaded ripoff-0.8.2.tar.gz file?  I suggest you blow away your ripoff-0.8.2 directory and start again.
12:22Hadronkb_: just FYI I had to do an xserver reconfig to update my xorg.conf
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12:22bobovskikb_: neither of those commands were recognized
12:22Dave_is_sexyok
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12:23kb_bobovski: hm, does dh <tab> show anything?
12:23timewriterdo i need to use the generic kernel ?
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12:23timewriterbrb
12:24hellcattravhey
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12:24hydoskeeI have a network card that yields the following from 'lspci' "03:10.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)", and it only works about half the time
12:24hellcattravhow do i use a wireless printer?
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12:24hydoskeeany ideawhy?
12:24SpaceBasshey folks
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12:24SpaceBassanyone using synergy for screen control?
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12:24atorreswhats happenen
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12:24jussi01hellcattrav: is it ipp or?
12:25bobovskikb_: yes, a few
12:25kb_bobovski: ok, what are they?
12:25bobovskikb_: dhcdbd
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12:25atorressynergy works great on ubuntu
12:25dooglusSpaceBass: I tried it a few days ago.  seemed to work OK
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12:25bobovskikb_: dhclient
12:25hellcattravjussi01:  not sure  im on my network but things have changed from 6.10 KDE, compared to now Im using 7.04 GNOME
12:25kb_bobovski: ok, the second is the one you want
12:25dooglusSpaceBass: except I was thinking it was a VNC replacement, but it isn't
12:25amigamiais it possible to use slax creator and write the ubuntu server 6x to a usb memory stick?
12:25SpaceBassdooglus, I'm having a problem running it as a client on ubuntu
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12:25[Meta] Guys. :(
12:25SpaceBassdooglus, says it cannot open the display
12:26[Meta] I just installed Ubuntu for the second time ever.
12:26[Meta] And it didn't let me specify a username.
12:26[Meta] So I can't log in.
12:26dooglusSpaceBass: all I ran was "synergyc -f 192.168.1.13" and it worked fine
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12:26wimdowswhat's the name of the other OSS streaming software something like versity, diversity or something
12:26bobovskikib_: ok let me see
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12:26SpaceBassdooglus, hummm
12:26dooglusSpaceBass: you'll need to have logged on to ubuntu already
12:26SpaceBassdooglus, reposititory or comple?
12:26dooglusSpaceBass: repo
12:26Kezman74when Feisty creates the MythTV user, what password does it give it?
12:26Slick_hey guys, I've just installed ubuntu and applied the patch which means feisty wont come up with an error with multiple drives.  I've reconnected my drives and want to mount them, how do you do that, so it will automatically mount them everytime you start ubuntu?
12:26SpaceBassdooglus, thats the issue! I'm not logged into the console...just via ssh
12:26dooglusSpaceBass: note the 'c' on the end of the command name
12:26bobovskikb_: it works. You rule. Will it wtill work upon restart?
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12:27dooglusSpaceBass: I think it's for controlling a machine you're already logged on to, not for logging on to it
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12:27hellcattravjussi01: there was a menu in kde where i could select manufacter and model, plus where the IP was, but Im not sure with 7.04 or GNOME
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12:27dooglusSpaceBass: you realise it can't share displays?  only keyboard and mouse
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12:28SpaceBassdooglus, yep
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12:28kb_bobovski: nope, you'll need to tell ubuntu to remember it.  i've not succesfully even booted into ubuntu yet, much less configured my network, so I don't know how to tell it that off the top of my head, though someone mentioned the possibility of installing some kind of network manager program, which would probably know how; otherwise, you or i could check the ubuntu docs
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12:28[Meta] Help!
12:28dooglusmulti-lcd?  how's that work on a laptop?
12:28kb_hi [Meta]
12:28[Meta] Hi kb_
12:28jussi01hellcattrav: try localhost:631 in firefox
12:28dooglusone display inside and one outside?
12:28bobovskikb_: ok. thanks a lot, I really appreciate it
12:28jussi01!netsplit
12:28ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
12:29Slick_how do you mount drives in ubuntu, so that they will always mount everytime you restart?
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12:29TaSowhen I do "ssh localhost" i get 'Permission denied (publickey,password).' ... any clue?
12:29kb_Slick: add them to /etc/fstab
12:29wimdowsSlick_ you add them to you /etc/fstab
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12:29[Meta] I can't log in. :( I don't have a username even though it was supposed to ask during setup.
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12:29dooglusSlick_: I would edit /etc/fstab.  maybe there's a gui to do that for you, I don't know
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12:29Slick_is there a guide to doing that, I'm new to ubuntu
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12:29dooglus[Meta] : boot from the live cd and use 'adduser' to make a user account
12:29Hamm_laptopSlick_: i would download automatix  and install the ntfs/fat32  mounter
12:29kb_[Meta] : hm.. easiest method is probably a boot cd; boot using that, get a shell using sudo, then run useradd -m yourusername
12:29kb_[Meta] : and then run passwd yourusername
12:30[Meta] I can't run the live cd
12:30[Meta] ??
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12:30hydoskeeI get an "unknown hardware address type 801"
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12:30t9ace22PART
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12:30dooglus[Meta] : when you boot, do you get the option of 'recovery mode'?  if so, that would do it
12:30Slick_Hamm_laptop cheers i'll try that
12:30[Meta] Oh.
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12:30Hamm_laptopSlick_:  google   automatix
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12:30[Meta] I tried doing that last night, but I'm crappy at Ubuntu commands
12:30jussi01hellcattrav: is that working for you?
12:30Kezman74Sorry, I got kicked. When Feisty makes the mythtv user, what password does it give it. Or how can I change it?
12:30[Meta] I forget them all from around January.
12:30wimdowsSlick_ - here's a tutorial on editing fstab on the UbuntuForums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
12:31dooglusKezman74: "sudo passwd mythtv"
12:31kb_[Meta] : well, now we've reminded you
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12:31[Meta] I don't understand.
12:31[Meta] Last time, it just let me set up an account during installation
12:32Kezman74dooglus: I'm such an idiot, ty
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12:32BryanJK...could someone help me with a missing dependency? I have KibaDock and KibaDock plugins Deb packages, but whenever I launch either one... it says it needs the other. How do ... install them?
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12:32[Meta] (And yes, I was using exactly the same CD)
12:32kb_[Meta] : yes, that's weird
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12:32vbabiyhey guys can i use mount to mount more then one directory at once
12:33dooglusBryanJK: "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" ?
12:33dxdemetriou_can I force firefox to use limited amount of memory? It is very hungry
12:33tarzeauvbabiy: yes
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12:33[Meta] kb_: I just thought I hadn't been paying attention to it last night.
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12:33jussi01BryanJK: sudo dpkg -i deb1.deb deb2.deb
12:33tarzeaudxdemetriou_: see ulimit
12:33KNYhey, anyone have experience getting sound to work in UT2004?
12:33vbabiytarzeau:  how
12:33dooglusdxdemetriou_: you can tell it not to cache so many pages somehow
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12:34BryanJKjust a sec jussi01 & dooglus
12:34kb_yay, ubuntu is -finally- booting. that was a minor marathon.
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12:34dooglusdxdemetriou_: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.cache.memory.capacity
12:34bloodMuffinhow can i make Konsole transparent? i check transparent and its still not transparent
12:34Eldayou have to set the transparency
12:34imperfect-Is there a way to use fstab to mount a drive a certain createmask for user,group or even just octal?
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12:34kb_ugh, the graphical bootloader's password field is way too small
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12:35jussi01!fstab | imperfect-
12:35scott_Hi all, what would you do if ldconfig -v listed a library but ldd programname said it couldn't find it?
12:35[Meta] kb_ when I get the shell... do I type "useradd -m username"? Or "run useradd -m username"
12:35codecainehi anybody know a good respirtory for festy so i don't have the basic one?
12:35ubotuimperfect-: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
12:35tarzeaukb_: screenshot?
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12:35Wriesthow come when I open up pages the screen goes black?
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12:35dooglusimperfect-: you can specify the umask in /etc/stab: e.g. "UUID=10CA-7773  /media/sda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1"
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12:35kb_tarzeau: i'm sure it's the normal size, it's just only about half the length it needs to be for me to be able to type my password without it scrolling and hence my not being able to see that i'm typing more characters
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12:35jussi01codecaine: what are you asking?
12:35BryanJKjussi01: " dependency problems - leaving unconfigured"
12:35joel#ubuntuhelp
12:36fiveironis there a way to "cat" the contents of a file into my clipboard?
12:36vbabiytarzeau: vbabiy@vbabiy-laptop:~$ sudo mount /mnt/MP3/ /mnt/ServerD
12:36vbabiymount: /mnt/MP3/ is not a block device
12:36dooglusimperfect-: that's not the default for creating new files though - it's how files look on a vfat fs
12:36vbabiytarzeau: is that wrong
12:36codecaineso I can have a big choice from download
12:36codecaines
12:36tarzeauvbabiy: yes it's wrong
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12:36jussi01BryanJK: doo you really want kiba dock?
12:36tarzeauvbabiy: you need something from /dev/whatever instead of /mnt/MP3/
12:36fiveironvbabiy: you dont mount a directory to a directory.... you mount a device to a directory
12:36kb_vbabiy: what are you trying to do?
12:36Wriesthow come when I open up pages the screen goes black?
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12:37dooglusWriest: are they black pages?
12:37jribWriest: are you using beryl?
12:37BryanJKjussi01: yea, unless you can reccomend a nice program launcher type widget
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12:37jussi01BryanJK: Id reccomend having a look at kooldock
12:37vbabiykb i have fstab recorders for these directory i need to mount them using these recorders
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12:37Dave_is_sexydooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471481
12:37EldaLooking at the options, the transparency for the console is fake transparency
12:37dooglusBryanJK: the avant-window-navigator is quite nice
12:37EldaThe only thing it will show is your background image
12:37BryanJKjussi01: okay ill check that out, you too dooglus
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12:37joelhello
12:37EldaIt wont actually let you see items through your window, iirc beryl does that though
12:38jussi01BryanJK: kooldock is in the repos...
12:38[Meta] kb_ when I get the shell... do I type "useradd -m username"? Or "run useradd -m username"
12:38dooglusBryanJK: avant looks like this: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/avant.png
12:38jussi01!info kooldock feisty
12:38ubotukooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB
12:38joelerm i compiled my kernel with a guide i found
12:38kb_[Meta] : the former
12:38joelworks good but cant find the nvidia drivr now
12:38[Meta] Thanks. :)
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12:38jussi01BryanJK: works in gnome too
12:38sacateryes
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12:38joelany1 can help me?
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12:38Pelojoel,  what is your issue ?
12:38kb_joel: if you tell us what your problem is, maybe; if not, no :)
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12:39[Meta] I like your icons, dooglus
12:39joeli recompiled my kernel using a guide i found
12:39WriestYes
12:39BryanJKdooglus: that looks nice
12:39joelit works good and quick but cant isntall nvidia driver
12:39[Meta] Very nice.
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12:39BryanJKjussi01: ...kooldock only works in KDE doesn't it?
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12:39Eldacooldock creates a mac like scrolly bar?
12:39ubuntuhi, how do you recommend to partitioning a 80GB HD in order to install ubuntu??
12:39[Meta] How do you actually get the icons like that?
12:39imperfect-well
12:39Wriestjrib: yes I'm using beryl
12:39dooglusBryanJK: avant needs beryl or compiz to work
12:39imperfect-I need a creatmask ;)
12:39BryanJKI have both...
12:39Pelo!nvidia > joel
12:39jribWriest: it's a bug, happens when your card runs out of memory
12:39imperfect-How do I do creatmask
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12:39EldaUbuntu, I had it do the automatically so it used ALL of the 80 gigs xd
12:40jribWriest: maybe #ubuntu-effects knows more
12:40joelwhat can i do?
12:40jussi01BryanJK: no it works in gnome also
12:40EldaThere should be an option to have it do it automaticall
12:40Wriestok thanx
12:40kb_wow, dooglus - your gnome setup is actually pretty :)
12:40EldaIt will set up boot/swap/ etc
12:40Pelojoel,  why did you recompile the kernel in fhe first place ?
12:40[Meta] Elda, if you're installing Windows with it, you should install Windows first
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12:40doogluskb_: it's pretty much the default, only with the bottom bar replaced by avant-w-n
12:40imperfect-Is there a way to do create mask?
12:40joelcuz i wanted more perfomance
12:40sabrina__ /server synapthein.org
12:40EldaWell yeah :>  I suppose
12:40joel:)
12:40xtknightwimdows, about your previous question: try /var/log/gdm.n.log  where n is a number between 0 and 9 (highest being the last recorded log which usually only goes up to about 1)
12:40sabrina__uhh, sorry :)
12:40ubuntuElda: But i had windows in that partition too
12:40BryanJK"Failed to check for installed and available applications" >__>
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12:41Pelojoel, how's your permormance now ?
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12:41kb_dooglus: hm... ok, well, the default's gotten a lot better in these last few years then
12:41joelperfect
12:41joeli think lol
12:41EldaWell, what I did when I worried about windows was set how much I wanted for linux, set up a 25 ish (still probably too big) boot partition and used about 2 gigs for a swap
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12:41joeli just switched from windows
12:41Pelojoel,  chek you pm windows for instrctions on the nvidia driver
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12:41doogluskb_: refresh that URL I pasted - at first I accidentally only snapped the terminal window - now it's the whole desktop.  uglier now?
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12:41Meshezabeelheya, just wondering if serial mice are now detected in edgy? I know they weren't detected in the previous two versions of ubuntu
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12:41joeldammit windows lagging my pc
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12:42nixnoobanyone know which version of the rt61 driver was used in feisty?
12:42joeland got rid of it
12:42knoppixHello
12:42nixnoobwas it the beta1 or 2 of the serialmonkey rt2x00 driver?
12:42doogluscongratulations joel :)
12:42EldaRight now though Im tired of windows, after my horrid experience with vista on this older laptop
12:42lordsakahello
12:42amigamiawhy is Ubuntu 7.04 - Supported to 2008 and Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 2011 ?
12:42Raptor45been thinking of trying out gfxboot... if I mess up grub, how can I restore it?
12:42nixnoobLTS=LONG TERM SUPPORT
12:42MenZaamigamia: 6.06 is Long Term Support
12:42Raptor45nixnoob, rt61 didn't work out of the box for me
12:42Peloamigamia,  lts means, long term support
12:42MenZaAnd it's only the servers that get 5 years, desktops get 3 years IIRC
12:42kb_dooglus: looks the same to me, i may've been slow to load it and gotten that version the first time
12:42joelya im pretty hapy with it but im too curious and get in issues like this one
12:42Eldahow come 7.04 doest get that? :>
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12:42doogluskb_: ok
12:42nixnoobraptor45 me either im just trying to figure what version of the driver is included in feisty
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12:43Ace2016hi all
12:43Meshezabeeler, what I meant was: is 7.04 capable of detecting serial mice? 6.06 and 6.10 weren't capable
12:43Raptor45nixnoob, ah... the legacy drivers worked for me though
12:43amigamiaany comments on the server?
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12:43doogluskb_: so you're not using GNOME?  or not using feisty?
12:43Raptor45nixnoob, can't wait till it works out of the box
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12:43Ace2016how do i use gfxboot themes in grub, the old tutorials don't work in feisty
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12:43Ace2016can anyone help?
12:43nixnoobraptor i believe the legacy drivers are whats being used in feisty i just wanna kno if they are beta1 or beta2?
12:43WriestWhat about the sounds
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12:43BryanJKjussi01 or dooglus:  http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6296/umid3.png  ...any idea what thats about?
12:44Raptor45nixnoob, I'm pretty sure ubuntu uses the r2x00 driver instead of legacy
12:44WriestI can't get it to make any noise when someone answere me
12:44EldaMeshezabeel, not quite sure about the serial mice :>  Let me see if I have one around here though to check.  If its not here it would be at home
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12:44joelerm got a problem it said i need to install this
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12:44nixnoobraptor45 i see thank you
12:44kb_dooglus: i booted into feisty all of about 10 minutes ago :)
12:44MeshezabeelElda: ok thanks :)
12:44jussi01BryanJK: just follw those instructions
12:44joelYou need to install the package
12:44joel  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-ck1
12:44joelfor this program to work.
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12:44Eldameh, Im sorry no mice here :/
12:44nixnoobraptor45 i need to blacklist the rt2x00 driver for the legacy ones to work yes?
12:44MenZaso install it, joel
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12:45damacushello.
12:45kb_dooglus: i used to use gnome, but around 2000 or so, but then i switched to blackbox, then kde around '03 or '04
12:45MenZajoel: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-ck1
12:45dooglusBryanJK: I'd close the update manager, open a terminal, run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and pastebin the result if I was you
12:45Jay2damacus, hi
12:45BitmessHow can I mount NTFS volume in read/write?
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12:45Raptor45nixnoob, hmm was a while ago I did that... as I recall, I just went through the tests to build/install the legacy driver and it all came up fine
12:45joelE: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-ck1
12:45southafrikanseWhat is the Ubuntu effects channel please?
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12:45Pelo!ntfs-3g > Bitmess  check your pm window
12:45damacusdoes anyone know why there isn't yet a USN for http://torrentfreak.com/multiple-vulnerabilities-discovered-in-ktorrent/ ?
12:45doogluskb_: I've used KDE on and off, but don't really like it.  Not sure why really.  GNOME's dumbing down is annoying, but I don't like KDE much either...
12:45damacusor is the current version in ubuntu already patched?
12:46Pelosouthafrikanse,  #ubuntu-effects
12:46southafrikansePelo: Thank you
12:46doogluskb_: I quite like the Windows interface to be honest :)
12:46kb_dooglus: yeah - between gnome 1, and kde 2, i was totally in favor of gnome - but i've liked kde from 3.1 onwards, while i haven't liked gnome2
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12:46peepsalotis there a way to back up a whole partition into a file on another drive, then mount it?
12:46kb_dooglus: imho, the ultimate ui was the beos one, but beos is, sadly, proprietary and dead
12:46joelwhat can i do then
12:46joel?
12:46damacuspeepsalot: yeah
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12:46Pelopeepsalot,   sudo cp
12:46kb_and all the ui clones i've seen have entirely missed the good parts
12:46damacusdd if=/dev/partition of=/newdrive/file.dmp
12:46nixnoobraptor just make and then make install yes?
12:46Dave_is_sexydooglus: did you spot anything in that pastbin post?
12:47Smaugwhats a good program for annimation?
12:47joelcan i reinstall default kernel?
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12:47dooglusDave_is_sexy: I didn't even spot the pastebin URL sorry.  did you put my name in your message?
12:47dooglusSmaug: synfig :)
12:47peepsalotdamacus, and I can mount that file just like a partition device?
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12:47Raptor45nixnoob, read the documentation... you also have to copy a setup file somewhere if you want to use WEP and stuff
12:47damacusthen on another computer you can mkdir /media/file; mount -o loop -t ext3 /path/to/file.dmp /media/file
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12:47Pelojoel,  from synaptic
12:47damacusreplacing ext3 with the correct partition type
12:47peepsalotdamacus, ok, thx i will try that
12:47damacusyeah
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12:47Dave_is_sexydooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471481
12:47cerianddoes anyone have any experience with setting up bluetooth hid?
12:47damacusif you have problems, google mounting over loopback
12:47nixnoobRaptor45 thanks did u ever use the GUI frontend RutilT from the serialmokney site?
12:47Smaugdooglus: thanks
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12:47Raptor45nixnoob, as I recall, it can only be set through that config file, not through command line or the GUI
12:48joeli install default kernel from synaptyc?
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12:48Raptor45nixnoob, saw it, but never tried it
12:48Pelojoel,  you might want to remove your new kernel
12:48weswh-does anyone know if the version of ktorrent that comes with feisty is 2.1.4? When you hit "about ktorrent" in the app all they say is "2.1", that really bugs me.
12:48Dave_is_sexyeverytime i start seamonkey it crashes instantly. firefox crashes every 5 mins or so. i'm not having much luck with this os.
12:48weswh-or does that mean I am literally running 2.1?
12:48damacusweswh-: yeah, I want to know too
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12:48BryanJKdooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471493
12:48damacusI prefer ktorrent over azureus... but I'd rather not run a vulnerable client
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12:49peepsalotdamacus, do you have any recommendation if the other drive is across the network?  do I need to set up a samba share?  is there a simpler way?
12:49damacusI didn't see a USN for the ktorrent vuln
12:49weswh-yeah..well, for starters I just want to know what I'm running. heh
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12:49damacuspeepsalot: you can mount the file over the network, or create the file onto a network share.. but to create the file, you have to do it from the local machine
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12:49weswh-peepsalot: are you trying to setup something permanent, or just copy a few files?
12:49bobSnakesAndStuff
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12:50Piciweswh-: Looks like just 2.1-0ubuntu2, I did `aptitude show ktorrent`
12:50joelim confused, how do i remove it? what happens if i remove it?
12:50peepsaloti want to back up a drive before I format it
12:50SnakesAndstuffHas anyone here ever had any luck getting cinelerra to install on ubuntu feisty fawn?
12:50weswh-I just use an SFTP client to connect from my windows box or whatever..over ssh
12:50Pelojoel,  if your previous kernel is still ther you'll be able to boot it
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12:50weswh-it's by far the easiest way to get things done.
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12:51dooglusBryanJK: does "sudo apt-get -f install" fix it?
12:51Raptor45if I break my grub, how can it be restored? I know I've seen links to some utility somewhere
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12:51joelisnt feisty kernel 2.6.20? i installed 2.6.20.ck1 and in grub theres not  a 2.6.20
12:51sethkRaptor45, there is a grub command line utility, called grub.  there is also grub-install
12:51Pelojoel,  as for the how , well if you compiled the same way anyother prog is compiled,  get the source,  run make then make uninstall ( or make remove I can never remember),  also consider backing up your data and maybe just reinstalling
12:51kb_peepsalot: i'd recommend using tar with the preserve options for that
12:51nixnoobRaptor45 one more question, did ra0 come up automatically or did u need to script a bunch on iwpriv stuff to make it associate?
12:51dooglusDave_is_sexy: that's a strange error.  you shouldn't be using 'su' here at all - I'd try deleting the ripoff-* directory again, then leaving 'su' and doing it all as yourself.
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12:51dooglusDave_is_sexy: I don't know if that would fix it or not though
12:52Dave_is_sexyok
12:52Raptor45sethk, and if I am unable to boot? can I run that via the live cd?
12:52BryanJKdooglus: it fixes the app manager, yes
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12:52joelcan i reinstall ubuntu without loosing the downloaded programs?
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12:52dooglusDave_is_sexy: I'd also try installing "libxml2-dev" - do you have it already?
12:53Pelojoel, no,  but if youknow hat they are you can easily find them again and resinstall them
12:53Raptor45nixnoob, it was able to connect via that config file... at the end I just had to make a script to do dhcp on startup
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12:53nixnoobRaptor45 thanks
12:53amigamiadoes ubuntu server automatically detect needed updates and retrieve them and install them as needed??????
12:53BryanJKdooglus: what irc client are you using?
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12:53dooglusBryanJK: irssi
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12:53joelcan i rename my kernel?
12:53weswh-hmm...so in a situation like this, do you think 2.1.4 will make it into the ubuntu repos sooner than later? or are we going to be on our own?
12:53joelso it doesnt say ck1 at the end?
12:53BryanJKdooglus: it looks nice :D
12:53wimdowsthanks xtknight - no, no gdm* log file in /var/log
12:54dooglusBryanJK: I run it inside screen on a remote server, so I can stay online even when my laptop is switched off
12:54Dave_is_sexydooglus: no exactly the same errors
12:54dooglusDave_is_sexy: you installed "libxml2-dev"?
12:54h4wk0!torrent
12:54Pelojoel, yo'Re getting into stuff that I've never done , I can't realy hellp anymore
12:54ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
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12:54joeloh ok
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12:54joelthx anyways
12:54dooglusjoel: you can specify the name when you build it
12:55BryanJKdooglus: and what was the dock you had?
12:55dooglusjoel: or if you're talking about how it shows up in the grub menu, you can use whatever name you like there
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12:55dooglusBryanJK: http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/
12:55damacush4wk0: well, its more than alternatives.  i'm new to ubuntu.. but I'm concerned about how long security vulnerabilities remain unresolved....
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12:55joelthis was the guide i used http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409288&highlight=Kolivas
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12:55Dave_is_sexydooglus: i have now, and the error is the same
12:55dooglusBryanJK: no official package available.  I built it from source, but unofficial packages are available
12:55Pelodooglus,  he compiled a new kernel and he can'T get his nvidia drivers to work right now,  he wants to go back
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12:56AzulSolarisAnyone know off the top of their heads how to fix the resolution on an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 video card?
12:56xtknightwimdows, hmm well im nmot sure then.
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12:56xtknightwimdows, oh /var/log/gdm/?
12:56dooglusDave_is_sexy: it's a strange error indeed.  I didn't see it
12:56wimdowsxtknight - ah! yes, gdm dir...
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12:57EldaAzule I think I saw something about that on the forums
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12:57murathi all
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12:57sethkRaptor45, yes, you can get to both grub and grub-install on the cd
12:57wimdowsnot sure which one to look at: :0.log  :0.log.1  :0.log.2  :0.log.3  :0.log.4  :20.log  :20.log.1  :20.log.2
12:57dooglusDave_is_sexy: but I've compiled quite a lot of stuff on this box before, so it's quite possible I already installed some -dev package that you're missing and need
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12:57wimdows0.log.4 I guess?
12:57murati have just seen a post about pidgin (former gaim im)
12:57damacusweswh-: http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/index.php?page=downloads
12:57sethkwimdows, do ls -ltr in /var/log, look at the most recent one (which will be the last one listed for ls -ltr)
12:57damacusthey have a feisty package up there
12:57Dave_is_sexydooglus: it's just not worth it really is it? win2k is fine
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12:58damacusguess we'll have to use that until the security fix is addressed in ubuntu proper.
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12:58muratif somebody know howto install pidgin on feisty
12:58murat???
12:58dooglusDave_is_sexy: there are other CD rippers available in the ubuntu repositories anyway.  is there any reason you want this one in particular?
12:58joelhello?
12:58heatxsinkhello
12:58gluttonyhi, im trying to run beryl on feisty, and its in my system tray. but my ubuntu is still using metaciy to manage the desktop. i click on beryl, the scree flickers, and then it is still set to medacity
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12:58Ix0sgluttony, beryl --replace is usually good fro diasgnosis
12:58fjleonsup guys, does anyone of a ubuntu repository with pidgin (gaim) 2.0 final?
12:58Pelogluttony,  #beryl
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12:59dooglusmurat: feisty has gaim 2.0.0 beta 6.
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12:59joelok nvm thx anyways cyaz
12:59dooglusmurat: pidgin won't be until gutsy I guess
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12:59murathi fjleon, i am looking for pidgin too
12:59fjleondarn
12:59muratthanks dooglus
12:59Ix0sgluttony, run beryl --replace in terminal and pasterbin outcome
12:59peepsalotkb_, damacus, weswh- what if the partition is NTFS
12:59Dave_is_sexydooglus: yes i don't like any of the others. used them all before. i have soundjuicer for now, but ripoff is how a ripper should be. why they make it so hard to install i do not know, but there is little i understand about linux developers
12:59fjleonguess we either have to wait for an unofficial repository or compile it myself
12:59kb_peepsalot: which partition? i haven't been following
12:59dooglusmurat: you can build it yourself if you want the final version, but I doubt it will be much different from gaim 2.0.0 beta 6
12:59murati will compile pidgin myself then
01:00damacuspeepsalot: if you use dd, you'll get a block-for-block copy
01:00damacusand it can be remounted on a different linux box
01:00peepsalotkb_, a partition i want to make a copy of before I format this drive
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01:00fjleondooglus, actually the GUI changed drastically on beta 7/final
01:00dooglusDave_is_sexy: are you running feisty?
01:00kb_peepsalot: hm.... dunno about how it'd be about keeping metadata or advanced stuff like ntfs streams, if you have any, but as long as you can read it, i'd expect tar to do ok on the actual data
01:00muratthanks dooglus and fjleon
01:01dooglusDave_is_sexy: you can install the one I just built if you like: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/ripoff_0.8.2-1_i386.deb
01:01peepsalotdamacus, how can I dd from the partition on one computer to a filesystem on another?
01:01Dave_is_sexydooglus: ooh thanks
01:01dooglusfjleon: that's crazy :)  why have 6 betas and then make drastic changes just before release???
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01:01dooglusDave_is_sexy: use "sudo dpkg -i <my.deb>"
01:01dooglusDave_is_sexy: (without the < and > of course)
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01:02peepsalotdamacus, can I dd over scp somehow?
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01:02damacuspeepsalot: mount the remote filesystem
01:02joel__hello
01:02BryanJKdooglus: on the dock, it says "  2. Type `make' to compile the package."  after running configure in terminal... "root@bryan-desktop:/home/bryan/Desktop/avant-window-navigator-0.1.1# make
01:02BryanJKmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
01:02damacusthen in the dd, set the of to use that mountpoint
01:02wimdowsxtknight and sethk - here's the log from the first crash... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19178/
01:02joel__from the grub thing selected the other kernel
01:02damacusand yeah, you can use scp/ssh via SSHfs
01:02joel__how do i make it default?
01:02peepsalotdamacus, so there is no getting around using samba
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01:03peepsalotoh
01:03damacusi guess that depends on your situation, heh
01:03peepsaloti haven't tried sshfs before
01:03joel__how do i change the default kernel from grub?
01:03Dave_is_sexydooglus: oh wow. awesome it's done! Thanks very much!
01:03damacusi mean, if you can use NFS... definitely go that route
01:03xtknightwimdows, hm seems like some type of forceful error to me.. sig11...i think ive gotten a Signal from X before but i cant remember at all the details
01:03southafrikanseWhere are the logon themes located on our disk? I want to put an image there so it can go by default
01:03damacusor if you can put the image onto an external drive
01:03fjleonhey murat
01:03xtknightwimdows, i'd suggest maybe reinstalling xserver pkgs...but when did this start happening/what have you done to limit the problem/etc?
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01:03fjleonhttp://cpanel.prohosts.org/filemanager/index.php?ftpserver=ftp.byetcluster.com&ftpserverport=2121&username=ph_575081&password_encrypted=72656E6567616465&language=en&skin=blue&ftpmode=automatic&passivemode=yes&sslconnect=no&viewmode=list&sort=&sortorder=&directory=%2F&entry=pidgin_2.0.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb&state=downloadfile
01:03fjleoncheck that out
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01:03h4wk0Whats the ntfs write package again :s
01:04h4wk0ntfs-config?
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01:04joel__whats pidgin?
01:04ZombieCrossntfs-3g
01:04ZombieCrossPidgin is the new Gaim.
01:04fjleongaim
01:04AaronMT!gaim > joel__
01:04dooglusBryanJK: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/avant-window_svn173-1_i386.deb ?
01:04damacuslibpurpleolol
01:04joel__ooohhh
01:04wimdowsxtknight, just started happening today....
01:04raschkone 1 here have tips on how to shrink the launcher icons in a panel??
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01:04dooglusBryanJK: I built it from subversion, not the 0.1.1 version
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01:05Raptor45so, has anyone gotten gfxboot to work in feisty? is it definitely broken?
01:05damacusanyone know of a good image viewer, similar to eye of gnome.. that supports animated gifs?
01:05xtknightwimdows, out of the blue..?
01:05wimdowsxtknight - I used to have beryl / XGL working on here...
01:05joel__how can i edit grub?
01:05xtknightwimdows, since an apt update perhaps?
01:05joel__i want to change the default kernel
01:05damacus(most important features:  animated gifs, fullscreen scaled view, and navigating between images in a folder without loading them all into the app first)
01:05wimdowsbut couldn't deal without the direct 3d rendering so reinstalled ati packages and had it back...
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01:05wimdowswas working fine for quite a number of weeks
01:06BryanJKdooglus: Thanks! ...is that it?
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01:06baa_can anyone with usenet recommend a good bin post proggy.
01:06dooglusBryanJK: alternatively, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2093300 - in fact you'll need to see that anyway, 'cos there's some gconf command you have to run before it'll work
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01:06baa_for windows even.
01:06BryanJKdooglus: sounds good
01:06dooglusBryanJK: that's a binary package of the current subversion version compiled
01:06wimdowsxtknight - can I simply reinstall xserver packages/
01:06wimdows?
01:06joel__how can i edit grub?
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01:07joel__how can i edit grub default kernel?
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01:07ice9!remote
01:07ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
01:07xtknightwimdows, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" first
01:07GrueTamerjoel__: sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
01:07joel__thx
01:07peepsalotis there a simple command to see free space on a partition?
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01:07muratjoel, you want to boot different kernel then the default one
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01:07ice9using realVNC on windows to remote into gnome box
01:07kb_woah, why does network-agent take so long to apply changes?
01:08dooglusjoel__: grub's config file is /boot/grub/menu.lst
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01:08ice9but I can't get sound to work does anyone know how
01:08williamjust one quick question...i installed GAIM Beta 6 with Automatix2...i see now version 6 is out but i still didnt get the update...does automatix take care of updates for me?
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01:08CPrgmSwR2Doesn't apt-get resolve dependences?
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01:08kb_CPrgmSwR2: it does
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01:08ice9does anyone know how to enable sound with realvnc
01:08CPrgmSwR2Then I read a stupid article
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01:09williamAnyone?Does Automatix2 take care of the updates for me?
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01:09Filthpig!themes
01:09ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
01:09doogluswilliam: I don't think so.
01:09wimdowsxtknight - hmmm - it's now changed my driver from fgrlx to ati in xorg.conf
01:09Filthpig!changethemes | southafrikanse
01:09ubotusouthafrikanse: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
01:09wimdowsso I'll change that back to fgrlx
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01:10xtknightwimdows, nah dont for now
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01:10kb_yay, networking works
01:10xtknightwimdows, just see if gdm starts without an issue?  if so then continue and reinstall Prop ati drivers
01:10wimdowshmm ok
01:10matt____1can someone please explain to me "window managers". like the compiz, aiglx, xgl. i want to get this to work. http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/ look at the download section, 3rd sentance
01:10connormy camera is not working properly; when I connect it to the laptop I get the "camera detected" message, but then when I click "import photos", it gives me "An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device."
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01:11wimdowsxtknight - so just Ctrl-Alt backspace, right
01:11BryanJKblah, random gnome crash >_>
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01:11xtknightwimdows, yea to restart X servef
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01:11wimdowsaye
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01:11kira_hi there.... somebody knows a nice tool so i can make a video from my beryl desktop?
01:11dooglusmatt____1: which is the 3rd sentence?
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01:12asherZin compiz how do u enable bottom cube image?
01:12dooglusmatt____1: oh, the download section, ok
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01:12matt____1dooglus: where it mentions Awn needs a composited environment to run
01:12Braddf0rdHey, I'm having a problem with Compiz not enabling... It was enabled, my gf went into Vista, I came back and it was off, and when I went to enable it, it couldn't... what should I do to fix this?
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01:12Braddf0rdI rebooted and tried again, and nothing... did the same thing
01:13Braddf0rdShould I reinstall it or something?
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01:13plowsokehey, i'm having trouble installing ubuntu.  my problem seems to have been mentioned on the official forums a few times, but i don't believe i've been able to find any official fix.  the installer runs normally, until the first GUI loads, then the screen is orange with some random artifacts and it just stops reacting, not frozen, there's just nothing to do.  from what i've read this is caused by some kind of compatibility issue with my
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01:13BryanJKdooglus: Thanks, your deb package worked by itself :D
01:14matt____1dooglus: oops, wrong button, i am going to have to restart xserver, give me a second
01:14dooglusmatt____1: ok, I see.  are you running beryl or compiz?  ie. wobbly windows and all that.
01:14matt____1dooglus:
01:14Braddf0rdHey, I'm having a problem with Compiz not enabling... It was enabled, my gf went into Vista, I came back and it was off, and when I went to enable it, it couldn't... what should I do to fix this?
01:14matt____1dooglus: well, im not. i don't understand compiz, is it the default ubuntu manager thing?
01:14dooglusBryanJK: right.  I think 0.1.1 needed a separate gconf command, but maybe the svn version doesn't...  I tried 0.1.1 first, hence my confusion
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01:14CPrgmSwR2re-install is a quick fix Barddf0rd
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01:14farseer_hello, how can i reach a linux partition from a windows computer. over the network?
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01:15lufisWhat's java_vm and why's it taking up 91% of my CPU?
01:15BryanJKdooglus: well gnome crashed for some reason, and I come back and have Avant in my accessories menu
01:15BryanJKworks great
01:15CPrgmSwR2but I would advise tring to figure out what went wrong
01:15plowsokelufis: java virtual machine i'm guessing
01:15dooglusBryanJK: what's nice with it is that you can drag launchers onto the panel as well - then launchers and open windows use the same icon
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01:15CPrgmSwR2then you don't have to re-install everytime it happens
01:15EldaLufis, sounds to me like that Java Virtual Machine
01:15jriblufis: java virtual machine and because it is java
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01:15farseer_.. is that what samba is used for?
01:15lufissheesh, how do i disable it?
01:15ice9java is a memory hog
01:15BryanJKis it also for windows?
01:15matt____1dooglus: i just enabled compiz, but i have no window borders or anything
01:15matt____1dooglus: why?
01:15BryanJKlike its showing windows I have open*
01:15julioCan somebody help me with getting Hotmail to work in Evolution?
01:15ice9depends to you have anything up that is java
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01:15ice9applets ,
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01:15ice9maybe
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01:16plowsokehey so anyone know a fix for that nvidia install issue?
01:16dooglusBryanJK: you can set it to auto hide too - it will hide when your mouse leaves it, unless it leaves by creeping along the bottom edge of the screen - so you can easily hide it or leave it on screen as you like
01:16lufisice9: I don't use any java apps, haven't run a java applet in firefox in a week or more
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01:16dooglusmatt____1: I don't know.  in feisty is that?
01:16ecklufis: look at the ppid
01:16kb_lufis: well, it's presumably running something
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01:16matt____1dooglus:
01:16lufis:-/
01:16matt____1dooglus: yes
01:16tolstoyFolks, what user do cron jobs in cron.hourly run as?  I see no cron user in /etc/passwd.
01:16ice9hmm
01:16ecklufis: i.e. the parent, it will tell you what spawned it
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01:16jvolkmanlufis, azureus?
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01:16Braddf0rdDOES anyone know if I can reinstall compiz to make it work again????
01:16lufisjvolkman: no java apps
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01:16dooglusmatt____1: there's a separate channel for compiz:
01:16dooglus!compiz
01:16ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
01:16matt____1dooglus: what is it?
01:17dooglus#ubuntu-effects
01:17farseer_Braddf0rd, try it then
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01:17tolstoy!cron
01:17ecktolstoy: i believe root, just run a cron job that echos whoami to a file to find out
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01:17ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
01:17bsodhi :)
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01:17dooglusthey helped me get it working with this card which doesn't support it properly without using the Xgl server (or something - I don't understand it either :) )
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01:17jvolkmanlufis: ps -ef and find out what its parent is
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01:18jvolkmanlufis: look at "PPID" for java_vm and then find that same number in the "PID" column
01:18Ix0s!beryl
01:18ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
01:18BryanJKdooglus: its kinda like the mac dock... really nice
01:18wimdowsxtknight - back, the ati driver string didn't work....so back to fglrx now, which crashed again after first time login to the session, now seems fine
01:18farseer_hellooooo :P must i use samba to acces partitions mounted as ntfs, from another computer running windows?
01:18lufisjvolkman: sam      15258     1 91 Apr30 ?        3-12:21:29 java_vm
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01:18dooglusBryanJK: yes, like the mac dock but without the fancy zooming effects
01:19plowsokelol... any help at all? ;x
01:19lufisjvolkman: pstree shows it's its own independent process, no parent
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01:19Braddf0rdfarseer_, I don't have Navidia OR ATI, I'm using the Intel 940
01:19BryanJKdooglus: i love the zoomy effects too :D
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01:19ecklufis: yes, it daemonized itself
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01:19lufiseck: how do i de-daemonize it? :(
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01:19farseer_Braddf0rd, bad for u :/ i have no idea then
01:19dooglusBryanJK: if you save your GNOME session, it should start up automatically each time you log in
01:19ecklufis: you can't -- you need to try to figure out what app you are running that would invoke java
01:19xtknightwimdows, hmm , so it's sporadic huh?
01:19nowhereis it possible to execute a cronjob in gnu screen?
01:20jpjacobsnowhere, why would you?
01:20BryanJKdooglus, cant you just add it to /.config/autostart?
01:20jvolkmanlufis: you could kill it and see if anything disappears =)
01:20wimdowsxtknight - looks like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19179/
01:20ecknowhere: sure, just create a screenrc that runs the commands and run the cron job that executes screen with that profile
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01:20Braddf0rdok, does anyone know how I might get compiz running if it decides to stop working???
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01:20lufiseck: I'm not running anything using java. Not a thing. Unless you count firefox which might be invoking it, but that's unlikely anyway because i don't have any java applets running
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01:20dooglusBryanJK: I guess.  although I had problems trying to get it to run when I added it to ~/.xprofile.  I don't know about ~/.config/autostart.  try it, I guess :)
01:20ecklufis: i would just kill it then
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01:20lufiseck: it just comes back up
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01:21dooglusBryanJK: it was taking up the whole bottom inch of the screen with a black stripe.
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01:21eckthat's strange
01:21BryanJKdooglus: if i try it, my computer will no boot up the next time prolly :P
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01:21BryanJKnot*
01:21eckare you sure it isn't blocking sigterm?
01:21lufiseck: 15258 sam       15   0  240m 8584 2752 S 72.9  2.2   5063:58 java_vm
01:21dooglusBryanJK: you'll be able to control-alt-f1 and undo the damange from there
01:21Braddf0rdHELL, does anyone know the room for compiz???
01:21lufiseck: 79.9 = cpu usage
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01:21moDumasshey all, so um, after getting monitor 2 working with the X server settings (nvidia) and it looks pretty and all, how do i get anything onto it
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01:21ecklufis: but when you kill it, it actually terminates and the pid changes
01:22moDumassbraddford, go to #beryl
01:22eck?
01:22dooglusBryanJK: basically, nothing you do as your user can stop the machine booting.  you need 'sudo' (or an exploit) to really break things.
01:22lufiseck: killall java_vm returns no errors, but it's spawned immediately afterwards
01:22Braddf0rdThank you moDumass
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01:22dooglusBryanJK: I suppose filling the disk right up is something you can do as a user to cause trouble
01:22wimdowsthat pastebin is the last log msg, the one before it moans about screen not being DRI capable:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19180/
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01:22moDumassno prob
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01:22wimdowsxtknight - I tried before adding an AIGLX section in to the xorg but removed it as it didn't do anything
01:23ecklufis: weird -- if it respawns that means another application is forking and recreating a java daemon, but i'm not sure how you would determine what application that was
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01:23BryanJKdooglus: ...can you move the Avant dock?
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01:23dooglusBryanJK: no
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01:23martalliDoes the core 2 duo not support 64 bit ubuntu?
01:23dooglusBryanJK: I think that's on the author's TODO list
01:23eckmartalli: it does
01:23lufiseck: well, like i said, pstree is showing it as its own parent. I don't know what would be spawning it, considering I don't run any java applications at all, nor do I have any java applets open
01:24wimdowsnot sure if some of it is still a left over from the XGL / Beryl stuff
01:24BryanJKdooglus: ya, it does kinda look bad stretching the 16x16 icons to like 54x54 :P
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01:24ecklufis: right, if the ppid is 1 that means it daemonized itself, so there is no way of determining what application originally spawned it
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01:24xtknightwimdows, ah hold on
01:24martalliI have a dell m1210 and when I boot the 64 bit disk, it says myu processor does not upport it - "use a 32 bit distro"
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01:24lufiseck: But there's got to be a way to undaemonize it, right?
01:25xtknightwimdows, well im really not sure what's going on
01:25wimdows:-(
01:25ecklufis: no, being a daemon just means your parent is init and you don't have any file descriptors open on any ttys/consoles
01:25xtknightkinda hard to debug from afar
01:25lufiseck: oh
01:25wimdowsI know
01:25ecklufis: a daemon cannot respawn itself anyway, another process needs to fork and create the daemon
01:25xtknightwimdows,  so getting rid of all the xgl/compiz/beryl/composite/all-that-stuff didnt help?
01:25Jay2how can i boot in ubuntu and display the initial boot up messages for debugging purposes?
01:25lufiseck: I'm getting rid of java then. This is crazy :(
01:26dooglusBryanJK: you can right-click a bad-looking icon, click 'preferences' and select a better icon if you like
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01:26timewriterhi
01:26lufiseck: it's STILL pegging my cpu
01:26wimdowsxtknight - I don't think it's all uninstalled
01:26plowsokewell, here's a thread with my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=a07ef38c3b3336ab48cc12dfd23053dd&t=433166&highlight=install+orange+screen
01:26[Meta] Woot!
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01:26ecklufis: to find out what process was spawning you'd need to know the pppid, but of course that doesn't exist ;-)
01:26crimsunmartalli: using a 7.04 desktop cd?
01:26xtknightwimdows, well i'd suggest working from the first warnings in the log file...
01:26asherZsomeone please help. i have compiz enabled w/ GL Desktop and cant enable bottom cube image theres no option i can enable top cube img :S
01:26xtknightwimdows, the failed to setup writecomining range errors...
01:26lufiseck: i think it's 1, right?  ps -ef | grep java gives: sam      15258     1 91 Apr30 ?        3-12:26:25 java_vm
01:27wimdowsxtknight - I just manually edited xorg.conf and reinstalled the ati drivers
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01:27ecklufis: you might also see what files it has open with lsof, that might give a clue of what it is doing
01:27martallicrimsun:  yes -
01:27dooglusplowsoke: the usual advice in that situation is "try the alternate install cd"
01:27xtknightwimdows,  not that i know what that means but it may suggest something...the rule to go by is always to look at the first errors as they could cause subsequent ones.  but unfortunately there are exceptions
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01:27timewriteri cant compile xchat from source
01:27ecklufis: yes, the parent is 1 (but you haven't killed it yet, since it's been running since april 30)
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01:27dooglustimewriter: are you sure you want to?
01:27crimsunmartalli: please file a bug against the linux-source-2.6.20 source package using bugs.launchpad.net
01:27plowsokedooglus: which rules out the possibility of using Ubuntu Live eh?
01:27timewriterdooglus: yes
01:27lufiseck: huh. killall java_vm doesn't return any errors
01:28ecklufis: it can block sigterm, try kill -9
01:28lufisok
01:28dooglustimewriter: what's the problem, specifically?
01:28martallicrimsun:  OK
01:28eckthe default behavior of sigterm is to send sigterm
01:28timewriterlet me show u
01:28peepsalotany software RAID tutorials for Ubuntu?
01:28williamsry i already posted this question but need confirmation...does automatix take care of updates for me?
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01:28eckerr, the default behavior of kill
01:28LjL!automatix
01:28ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
01:28peepsalot!raid
01:28ubotuRaid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
01:28lufiseck: I think that did the trick :)
01:28dooglus!automatix
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01:29wimdowsxtknight, well - I'm guessing it's even before the write-combining errors... in particular: (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:5:0:1) found
01:29regulushello
01:29jmashaw!WorksForMe
01:29ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
01:29ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
01:29regulusany spanish here??
01:29timewriterchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
01:29dooglus!es
01:29ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
01:29timewriterthis is the error
01:29regulusI need help abou the screen resolution
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01:29lufiseck: oh, thank god. That's crazy. It was pegging my cpu nonstop
01:29crimsuntimewriter: reinstall build-essential
01:29xtknighttimewriter, sudo apt-get install build-essential
01:29dooglustimewriter: install build-essential
01:29timewriterthey arent installed
01:29timewriterok i was thinking about that
01:29timewriterthanks
01:29wimdowsxtknight - I think that's to do with XGL
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01:29williamwow seriously?!but on the ubuntu forums everybody seem to praise automatix...even michael dell uses it! :)
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01:29dooglustimewriter: also, install the dependencies for xchat:  "sudo apt-get build-dep xchat"
01:30regulusarf!
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01:30timewriterok
01:30xtknightlol michael dell
01:30dooglustimewriter: (or "xchat-gnome", depending on which one you're building)
01:30timewriteri use gnome
01:30ecklufis: i think that kill will always exit normally, because afaik it's not possible to tell if the process that was killed ever received the signal
01:30regulusI tried with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it does nto work!
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01:30lufiseck: ah, that explains it then
01:30dooglustimewriter: sure, but there are 2 versions of xchat
01:30xtknightwimdows, perhaps :]
01:30joel__fixed my  problem just made the old kernel default and reinstalled nvidia driver
01:30xtknight:\
01:30dooglustimewriter: both are gnome programs I think
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01:31dooglustimewriter: I mean GTK programs
01:31timewriterthen which one should i go for
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01:31xtknightwimdows, my mind is rather blank at the moment.  how did you attempt to use xgl/aiglx again?
01:31lufiseck: I'll know what to do next time things get sluggish. Thanks :)
01:31eckno problem :-)
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01:31timewriteroioi
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01:31timewriterconfigure: error: "Cannot find glib"
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01:32dooglustimewriter: I'd recommend irssi personally, but if you insist on an xchat, "xchat" was better than "xchat-gnome" last time I looked
01:32dooglus!info xchat
01:32ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
01:32dooglus!info xchat-gnome
01:32timewriterim on irsii
01:32ubotuxchat-gnome: a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.16-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 305 kB, installed size 784 kB
01:32wimdowsxtknight - good question - followed some tutorial...
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01:32timewriterbut my eyes are really sick
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01:32timewriteri cant use it
01:32wimdowsxtknight - where can I find gdm.conf?
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01:32xtknightwimdows, /etc ?
01:32kitchetimewriter: have to install glibbut why not just install the package?
01:32dooglustimewriter: make the font bigger.
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01:32williamok well anyway is it normal that gaim 2.0 is still not in synaptic?synaptic takes care of the updates right?!
01:32timewriterits big enough
01:32dooglustimewriter: so what's the problem?
01:32timewriterthe thing is that on irsii lines are moving too fast
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01:33timewriteri just cant watch all
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01:33grimeboyI'm really confused. My battery is at 90% and charging and I haven't been using it.
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01:33c00i90wnHi, I'm having the following problem, I installed network-manager-pptp but when I click on the NetworkManager icon I can't see VPNS entry
01:33dooglustimewriter: so join #debian instead.  they love ubuntu questions there ;)
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01:33wimdowsxtknight - ah yes - well, in /etc/gdm/ ;-)
01:33timewriterlol
01:33c00i90wnbtw, on feisty
01:33Agrajagwilliam: what do you mean? gaim 2.0 comes with ubuntu already
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01:33Slick_hey guys, how do I remove a shortcut to a mounted partition which is on my desktop?
01:33williamno its not gaim2.0
01:33grimeboypidgin
01:33Agrajagwilliam: 2.0b7 then, whatever.
01:33doogluswimdows: gaim 2 was released after feisty was released.
01:33plowsokecan anyone link me to the latest alternate installer ISO torrent for AMD64?  tried about 15 mirrors from the main site and they're all broken lol
01:33Agrajagwilliam: are you talking about pidgin?
01:33stardust#new2irc
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01:34timewriterhow do i install glib /
01:34williamyea pidgin
01:34williamjust got renamed sry
01:34Agrajagwilliam: that's not the same, and it won't ever be in fiesty
01:34williamy?
01:34doogluswimdows: ubuntu won't be adding new versions of things to old releases - only for security fixes mostly
01:34Agrajagwilliam: you don't change package versions in a stable release
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01:34erpoThe package gpsd-clients in Feisty Fawn has a bug that is corrected in a newer version of the software. The maintainer is listed as Ubuntu MOTU Developers. How do I contact "Ubuntu MOTU Developers" and get them to put out an update?
01:34jribtimewriter: you probably already have glib
01:34grimeboyCause
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01:34timewriteruhm
01:34williambut then synaptic never updates your packages?
01:35timewriteru mean libglib2.0-0 ?
01:35Slick_hey guys, how do I remove a shortcut to a mounted partition which is on my desktop?
01:35wimdowsdooglus - how nice of you to inform me ;-) I think your replies were directed at william?
01:35Agrajagwilliam: yes it does, if there is a security update you will get an update.
01:35c00i90wnmmm no one? :S
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01:35jribtimewriter: exactly
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01:35timewriterits there
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01:35Agrajagwilliam: and when Gutsy comes out you can use the update manager to update to it.
01:35timewriterthen why i get the error
01:35doogluswimdows: probably.  it's late :)
01:35jribtimewriter: what error?  what are you doing?
01:35timewriteruhm
01:35timewriteri need dev packages
01:35c00i90wnSlick_: wait, I can't remember, looking for it
01:35drewwilliam: have you tried the pidgin yet?
01:35wimdowsdooglus - not probably...."most certainly" ;-)
01:36doogluswilliam: you'll get updates for security fixes, and serious bug fixes, but not for regular version increments
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01:36williamno not yet but ive seen ppl try it on the forum
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01:36williamand i have beta 6 through automatix
01:36drewdoes it look different?
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01:36zipped20xi have a question
01:36peepsalotCan anyone help me use the alternate install cd from a USB CD drive?
01:36[Meta] Uh oh
01:36[Meta] Uh oh
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01:37[Meta] Guys. I can't do anything now.
01:37timewriteroioi
01:37[Meta] :S
01:37jmashaw!ask
01:37peepsalotit gets to a point where it wants cd drivers, but it worked up to that point?!
01:37ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
01:37zipped20xis there any way to reformat part of my linux partition without harming the current linux installation
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01:37timewriterjrib: im trying to compile xchat from source
01:37[Meta] I got into the oem user then I created a new user
01:37williamdrew: although it would make more sense if it did since its a 2.0 no not really
01:37timewriterand i get a lot of errors
01:37[Meta] And deleted the oem one.
01:37[Meta] Bad move. x_X
01:37[Meta] How do I log in to the root user?
01:37peepsalotis there a particular module i need to load?
01:38LjL[Meta] : reboot into recovery mode and add your user to the "admin" group (adduser username admin)
01:38dooglus[Meta] : it's recommended not to, and to use 'sudo' instead, but 'sudo -i' will give you a root prompt
01:38AaronMT!sudo > [Meta]
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01:38c00i90wnSlick_: gconftool-2 --type boolean --set /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible false
01:38jmashawzipped20x: you can use gparted to resize and then reformat a part of it, but be careful, as it is not always 100% succesful
01:38timewriterwhats is srcinst ?
01:38AaronMT!gparted > zipped20x
01:38FlannelMeglo: er... You shouldn't have deleted the OEM one.  There's a script to finish up your install (oem-config-prepare, or something like that).
01:38BryanJKdooglus: Thanks, it looks great
01:38jmashaw!gparted
01:38ubotuGParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
01:38[Meta] Ugh.
01:38[Meta] Okay LjL
01:38williamok so although automatix is highly unrecommended apparently, can someone tell me if they update their packages?
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01:38LjLwilliam, ask in #automatix
01:38[Meta] But I'm pretty sure I did that before
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01:38zipped20xwhat happens if it isn't successful?
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01:39ChetwinHi all
01:39Chetwin!pidgin
01:39drewwilliam: ill install anyway, maybe some cool new features, curious which direction its heading.
01:39ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept - At the time of feisty's final freeze, Pidgin has not been released, so Pidgin will not be going into feisty.  Expect Pidgin in feisty+1!  See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info
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01:39AaronMT!automatix
01:39ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
01:39zipped20xand do i do it through the terminal?
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01:39FlannelMeglo: actually.  Don't need to do that.  Run that script (from recovery mode), type "oem" and hit tab, and it'll complete to it.  Then reboot again, and you'll get prompted to create a real user
01:39jmashawwell, it can destroy the data on your drive.
01:39jmashawno, it is graphical
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01:39zipped20xhow do i access it?
01:39jpiccolocan low amount of ram on a server affect ftp transfer speed?
01:39ChetwinHey all, will build-essential install EVERYTHING I need to compile a prog from source???
01:40[Meta] Flannel: Were you talking to me?
01:40peepsalotum, please has anyone successfully run an Ubuntu install from a USB CD drive?
01:40Bajethere a way to get my xchat to open up when i click irc links on websites?
01:40Flannel[Meta] : sorry, yeah.
01:40Meglo:P
01:40[Meta] :S
01:40LjLChetwin: of course not, each program will depend on the libraries that the programmer has chosen to use
01:40[Meta] I dunno how.
01:40[Meta] ;_;
01:40Flannel[Meta] : I said something else to you before too.  Well, to him.
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01:40c00i90wnHi, I'm having the following problem, I installed network-manager-pptp but when I click on the NetworkManager icon I can't see VPNS entry on feisty
01:40c00i90wnSlick_: worked?
01:40jmashaw!gparted
01:40ubotuGParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
01:40Flannel[Meta] : Reboot, recovery mode.  then run the "oem" thing (oem[tab]  ought to complete to it) then reboot, and it'll ask you about making your real user.
01:40BryanJKdooglus: if you wanna see it, heres a link http://tinyurl.com/32fjot
01:40[Meta] Type oem and then press tab?
01:41ChetwinLjL: I downloaded the source for a program because a binary wasn't avail.  How can I get started
01:41lbawinownsI have a NTFS partition that works perfectly, but if I delte files from it, does it go to a recycle bin?
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01:41Jump86has anyone heard of pclinuxos? it seems to be getting some attention lately
01:41Flannel[Meta] : yeah.  From the recovery console.  It should complete it.  To something like "oem-config-prepare"
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01:41wimdowsxtknight - can I reinstall xserver-xorg?
01:41[Meta] Okay. -.-
01:41zipped20xand if it's not 100% successful what will happen to the partition?
01:41LjLChetwin: by installing build-essential, for sure. then read the INSTALL file. it'll probably tell you to run ./configure, run it. if it complains about missing development dependencies, install them, run it again. when it stops complaining, you can run "make".
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01:41lbawinownssince I don't think my space has increased even tough I've deleted a couple of files
01:41LjL!compile > Chetwin    (Chetwin, see the private message from Ubotu)
01:42xtknightwimdows, sudo apt-get --reinstall install <pkgname>    (yes install is in there twice0
01:42Gerrolbawinowns: you would have to "move" stuff to the recycling bin not delete it
01:42Flannel[Meta] : ifthere's more than one `oem` thing, you'll need to hit tab twice, and you'll gt a list of them.
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01:42dooglusBryanJK: looks good
01:42jmashawI have never had it happen to me, but if it dies it could destroy the partition
01:42Slick_c00i90wn: I wasnt trying to hide one of them, I was trying to rename one of them so that it represents the name in the mounted volume
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01:42ChetwinThanks LjL!
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01:42dooglusBryanJK: quite a low resolution though - is it a small screen?
01:42wimdowsok cheers xtknight
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01:42[Meta] Okay, Flannel.
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01:42[Meta] Be back soon
01:43BryanJKdooglus: its 1600x1200, the image was resized because it was a large file size
01:43dooglusBryanJK: I se
01:43doogluse
01:43lbawinownsGerro: what happen if I just press delete button?
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01:43Wriest_how do I install wallpapers and different tar files?
01:43BryanJKdooglus: imageshack tends to do that if its over 1.5mb
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01:43timewriterim stucked
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01:43piercycan anyone help me get windows onto my grub menu and for ti to boot please :)
01:43AaronMTWriest_ just right click your image and set as wallpaper
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01:43gesushey is there any way to play half-life in ubuntu without installing wine?
01:43zipped20xit didn't work
01:43drewgesus: cedega?
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01:44Flannelpiercy: XP? or Vista?
01:44piercyxp
01:44doogluspiercy: see the end of http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/menu.lst
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01:44doogluspiercy: that's for XP home
01:44c00i90wnSlick_: sorry, read hide :S
01:44doogluspiercy: sorry, prof.
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01:44roustemI cannot install my "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)" wifi card in Feisty. I followed these directions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/Hardware#Ndiswrapper_for_Broadcom_43xx_wireless_chipset
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01:44Flannelbooting shouldnt matter between prof and home.
01:44drewgesus: there is no direct linux version of Steam software, or half life. Have to use Cedega or wine.
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01:45UnluckyMikeroustem: try bcm43xx-fwcutter
01:45piercymines prof anyway
01:45gesusdrew, thank you
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01:45piercyill tyr it and come back in a sec... so i add this to menu.lst then do sudo update-grub then reboot?
01:45zipped20xi'm trying to put a windows partition on my second hard drive but it wont let me because the hard drive that it wants to put it on has the linux on it
01:45doogluspiercy: I don't think you need to update-grub - just edit the file
01:45piercyok
01:45piercybrb
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01:46jncI don't see info on whether or not Dell is shipping notebooks with Ubuntu pre-installed today, or not... any pointers?
01:46doogluspiercy: you'll need sudo to edit it though
01:46BryanJKdooglus: theres a shortcut to "CounterStrike Source" I want on the dock, but whenever I drag it... (even from the desktop) it discards it
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01:46timewriteri got mad
01:46dooglusBryanJK: drag it to the very left edge - not onto an existing icon
01:46timewriterstoopid xchat
01:46zipped20xwould i be able to instead of doing !gparted physically switch the 1st hard drive and the second hard drive?
01:46zipped20xthe linux hard drive is on the master part of the ide and my second is on the slave part
01:46jmashawzipped20x: I supose that would be easy enough
01:47BryanJKdooglus: I do, but it just doesn't do anything... I drag another icon (Steam) to the exact same place, and it works
01:47BryanJK:|
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01:47zipped20xand it wont harm a thing?
01:47jmashawI am not sure, because I am not exactly sure what you mean.
01:47UnluckyMikezipped20x: just change your bios to boot whichever hard drive first
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01:47dooglusBryanJK: I've not seen that problem here.  but I've not tried with many icons
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01:48dooglusBryanJK: what happens if you "ls -l" on the icon's file?
01:48zipped20xturn the master drive into the slave drive through the BIOS?
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01:48dooglusBryanJK: ie. ls -l ~/Desktop/halflife.desktop or whatever
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01:48BryanJKdooglus: it works fine, except for that one icon
01:48Jonahguys if my machine has pc3200 ram and it's got 1gig, does that mean it has two 512mb dimms or do these dimms not need to be in twos so could it just have 1 dimm of 1gb?? just ordering more memory so don't know whether to order 3x1gb dimms or 4x1gb dimms and take old out...
01:48BryanJKokay hold on
01:48zipped20xi'll try it
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01:49thelostpatroli can't delete a file because it says i don't have permissions. how can i delete it?
01:49[Meta] This is even worse!
01:49piercyok now it says invalid or unsupported exectuable
01:49KFDMDoes anyone in here have experience with getting Pydev working with Eclipse under Ubuntu or do they know of where I might be able to get help ?
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01:49sebas_hidan, I want to install feisty but I am unable to format the hard drive
01:49AaronMT!chmod > thelostpatrol
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01:49[Meta] Flannel: Now I can't even see most of the admin options
01:50sebas_I want to keep my Windows partition
01:50BryanJKdooglus: "ls: /home/bryan/Desktop/css.desktop: No such file or directory"
01:50BryanJKhmm
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01:50sanityxMan, I hope backports does Pidgin 2.0
01:50sebas_can anyone help me?
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01:50sanityxThey really should, considering its at the same release level as the existing gaim
01:51ncallerI need to build something which requires zlib.h any idea what package I should install? zlibc ?
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01:51sanityxThunderbird would be great too.
01:51[Meta] ;-;
01:51BryanJKdooglus: (I have the icon on my desktop, i used tab, typed it out, and dragged it with that terminal command)
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01:51BryanJKweird
01:51KFDMsanityx, it's not too hard to install pidgin yourself
01:51netwkrtothi all, can u switch between workspaces using shortcut keys??
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01:51piercyi added he code u gave me but now it says invalid or unsupported executable..
01:51[Meta] How do I add a user to the admin group?
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01:51BryanJKdooglus: its not big deal though, dont worry
01:51[Meta] Through recovery mode, that is.
01:51Centaur5Is it possible for a server to have both Xubuntu and Ubuntu available for a network install with an option to choose which to do using pxeboot?
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01:52sebas_netwrtot: control + alt + right|left row
01:52ncallerOr is there a way to see what files would be installed before doing an apt-get install <package> ?
01:52wimdowsxtknight - looks like DRI is not enabled anyway...here's the full xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19181/
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01:52[Meta] Help? :(
01:52wimdowsATI sucks a fat one
01:52Flannel[Meta] : Recovery mode isn't a GUI, nor was it ever expected to be used as one.  You go into recovery console, type that command, then reboot normally.
01:52Moniker42hi, i changed the boot splash screen a few weeks ago
01:52Moniker42but i've gone off it
01:52[Meta] I did!
01:52netwkrtotsebas_: great, thanks!
01:52[Meta] But it screwed it up.
01:52Flannel[Meta] : then instead of a normal login, you'll get prompted for some stuff to create your first user
01:52Moniker42how do i change it back to the default? ;)
01:53[Meta] -.-
01:53Flannel[Meta] : probably having to do with you not having an oem user, I expect
01:53[Meta] But I didn't.
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01:53[Meta] Yeah, because I deleted it without knowing.
01:53[Meta] Ugh.
01:53mike__evening
01:53Flannel[Meta] : How much have you done with this install?
01:53ffmis there a way that I can hide my browser window quickly w/o closing it?
01:53mike__just me then
01:53[Meta] Flannel:  what do you mean?
01:53piercylol ffm? porn??
01:53AaronMTbottom left iconj
01:53piercyerm i kno on macs u can do alt f11
01:53Moniker42ffm, move it onto another desktop?
01:53Flannel[Meta] : How much will you lose if you just reinstall?
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01:54[Meta] Absolutely nothing, this is a clean install.
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01:54mneptokmove yourself to another desktop
01:54Moniker42ffm, or have the browser on a different desktop and switch to the one you're supposed to be doing work on :)
01:54[Meta] But I don't want to do it all over again. >_<
01:54ffmMoniker42: Not goona work, as Beryl makes my desktops trasmparrent.
01:54[Meta] Because it takes AGES
01:54Flannel[Meta] : Suggest doing that then.  Since, I don't know the details about how the oem stuff does stuff.
01:54jncmneptok: in Russia, Desktop moves YOU
01:54jncsorry.
01:54Flannel[Meta] : Do a real install, not the oem install.
01:54[Meta] Text mode?
01:54SlickMcRunfastHow do I run two monitors with an ATI card?  I'm on a laptop.
01:54[Meta] :x
01:54Flannel[Meta] : yes.
01:54Moniker42ffm, well just put a wedge under the door handle or something so your mother doesn't walk in
01:54Moniker42anyways
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01:54piercylol
01:55[Meta] If I get on the other computer, can you help me through the install?
01:55jncSlickMcRunfast: depends on the driver
01:55Moniker42grub fix, anyone?
01:55ffmMoniker42: And, other desktops show what window is in them in the status bard.
01:55mike__bitchx Pineapples b0rk.uk.quakenet.org
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01:55jncSlickMcRunfast: you must be a mst3k fan ;P
01:55Moniker42ffm, minimise? :)
01:55Flannel[Meta] : Then you don't need to deal with this oem stuff.  It's the exact same questions you just answered.  But, sure.
01:55thelostpatroli can't delete a file because it says i don't have permissions. how can i delete it? i don't understand
01:55jnc"largemcbighuge"
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01:55SlickMcRunfastjnc: yes
01:55[Meta] Okay. :P
01:55kitchemike__: wrong thing prehaps :)
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01:55Flannel[Meta] : te "textmode" install, installs a GUI system, don't worryabout that
01:55dooglusBryanJK: would be good to understand what's going on though, eh?
01:55[Meta] I think I'll go log in to the other computer.
01:55ffmMoniker42: "What is that in your status bar?" (Yes, they called it a status bar)
01:55kazolI cannot install a "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)" in Feisty.
01:55Jonahhey guys i use ubuntu, does increasing memory help performance much, also how much memory can ubuntu take - also if my machine has pc3200 ram and it's got 1gig, does that mean it has two 512mb dimms or do these dimms not need to be in twos so could it just have 1 dimm of 1gb?? just ordering more memory so don't know whether to order 3x1gb dimms or 4x1gb dimms and take old out...
01:55SlickMcRunfastjnc: its BigMcLargeHuge, my friend goes by that alias
01:55dooglusBryanJK: does "ls -la ~/Desktop" help?
01:55[Meta] Flannel: I didn't think it wouldn't. It's just I'm afraid of text installation.
01:55kazolI've tried both ndiswrapper and the fcutter thing.
01:56sichemist!xinerama | SlickMcRunfast
01:56ubotuSlickMcRunfast: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
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01:56[Meta] Mmkay. Time to do that then.
01:56SlickMcRunfastthanks
01:56ffmJonah: Ubuntu can use an infinite amount of ram, iirc.
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01:56ziggy23I need help with my display -- resuming after hibernation leaves it blank
01:56ffmMoniker42: "What is that in your status bar?" (Yes, they called it a status bar)
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01:56Flannel[Meta] : heh, well... Its thesame questions as the GUI install, just... with terminal chraacters instead of GUI characters.  Honest.
01:56snook353how do i get the update manager to prompt me for an upgrade?
01:56Moniker42ffm, status bar = taskbar?
01:56vox754Jonah, really depends on your machine, some motherboard only accept pairs
01:56furrykefDoes the AMD64 build of Ubuntu support 32-bit programs without needing a special chroot for them?
01:56kazolHow do I install a "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)"??
01:56lbawinownsPlease, can somone tell me how the recycle bin system works? I delete files from ntfs drive but there isno space freed nor does the normal recycle bin get affected
01:56thelostpatroli can't delete a file because it says i don't have permissions. how can i delete it? i don't understand
01:56[Meta] Flannel: I usually do what's easiest. :)
01:56vox754furrykef, I think not
01:56Moniker42thelostpatrol, you need root
01:56kazolIt installed perfectly in Dapper, but not in Feisty!
01:57[Meta] Alrighty.
01:57ffmMoniker42: In the world of non-computer users (jargon spurting idiots), yest.
01:57Moniker42as seen on the popular tshirt "Got Root?"
01:57usserJonah: i got 2gb here, 2x1gb
01:57ffmMoniker42: In the world of non-computer users (jargon spurting idiots), yes.
01:57Flannel[Meta] : they're both the same easiness.  Just one's prettier... I guess.
01:57thelostpatrolMoniker42, how do i get root
01:57lbawinownsit is a bit urgent
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01:57SlickMcRunfastgoodbye everyone remember to ROLLFIZZELBEEF
01:57furrykefvox754 - is there an easy way to check for sure other than just trying it?
01:57ziggy23how do I get nvidia drivers
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01:57Moniker42thelostpatrol, buy the tshirt, or you could type your root password when it prompts you
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01:57jncSlickMcRunfast: ah, noted.   okay so there's proprietary closed-source drivers provided by ATI "fglrx", and the open source "ati" driver from the community.   the fglrx driver fakes Xinerama but it actually does not work with Xinerama, and the 'ati' driver also fakes Xinerama but you'll need mergedfb option in xorg.conf turned on
01:57usserthelostpatrol: u have to chew your way through the rock to get root =)
01:57Moniker42or prefix the command with "sudo" but make sure you know what you're doing, it asks for the root password because it can break the system
01:57FlannelMoniker42, thelostpatrol, Ubuntu doesn't use the root account.  You use sudo to run the command (rm) in this case.
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01:57vox754furrykef, I think the FAQ/ common question section in the wiki says Ubuntu doesn't support dual architecture
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01:58Jonahusser, so do all dimms need to be paired or can you just put 1gb dimm in?? or does it have to be 2x512's? i'm going upto 4gb i think but do i need 4x1gbs? or just 1x4gb
01:58AgrajagMoniker42: sudo does not ask for the root pasword.
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01:58lbawinownsNo1 here got a ntfs drive?
01:58SlickMcRunfastjnc: so add one line?
01:58thelostpatrolFlannel, what's the deletion command?
01:58Moniker42Agrajag, it asks for the superuser's password?
01:58FlannelJonah: Depends on your MoBo.  You'll have to consult it's docuemntation
01:58AgrajagMoniker42: no.
01:58ffmFlannel: You can also say !root
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01:58Flannelthelostpatrol: rm (ReMove)
01:58Moniker42Agrajag, root and user password are the same for me...
01:58ffmthelostpatrol: rm
01:58AgrajagMoniker42: it asks for the password of whoever ran sudo.
01:58Moniker42!root | thelostpatrol
01:58ubotuthelostpatrol: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
01:58thelostpatrolFlannel, ffm, thank you
01:58FlannelMoniker42: no they're not.  Unless you've set your root password.
01:58ziggy23!nvidia
01:58AgrajagMoniker42: You added a root password?
01:58ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
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01:59sanityxKFDM, I know its not but I don't like to go outside the packaging system. Makes it easier to maintain a clean system.
01:59Moniker42Agrajag, y'what?
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01:59usserJonah: sure u can, before that i had 1 stick 1gb, it is however desirable that your sticks are of the same size and models with similar timings etc
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01:59jncSlickMcRunfast: I won't touch the proprietary drivers myself, so I don't know... the easy click and point way would be proprietary drivers as noted by ziggy23
01:59AgrajagMoniker42: Unless you specifically added a root password, root does not have a password.
01:59usserJonah: if u gonna put more than one
01:59KFDMsanityx, I use the packaging system for most things but some things I don't mind building myself
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01:59dooglushttp://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/pidgin_2.0.0-1_i386.deb <-- pidgin 2.0 for feisty
01:59[Meta] It came up with the oem one, Flannel. O.o
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01:59Moniker42Agrajag, so you could just boot ubuntu and login as root without a password?
01:59Alonea!Envy
01:59jncSlickMcRunfast: the open source 'ati' drivers require a bit of tweaking if they even work at all
01:59ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
01:59Moniker42which isn't the case
01:59AgrajagMoniker42: When you run sudo, sudo asks for your password and checks to see if you have permission to gain root privileges.
01:59usserJonah: if u comp supports it i'd say go with 2gb+2gb
01:59kazolI cannot install a "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)" card in Feisty.
02:00AgrajagMoniker42: no. no password means you cannot log in as root.
02:00furrykefI had read somewhere, though, that Edgy Eft might have biarch support for x86 and AMD64, and it's been one release after Edgy Eft...
02:00Jonahusser, so if i already have 1gb in there and if it's just 1stick, is it still better to order 4 sticks and take old out when going upto 4gb?
02:00Aloneai thought the bot had a thing on envy...at least it used it...
02:00kazolIt's driving me nuts. I actually hate Ubuntu now.
02:00Flannel[Meta] : what?  You have the alternate CD, there's like... five options.  Three of them are installers.  Textmode (regular), OEM, and Server.
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02:00Moniker42Agrajag, okay..
02:00quioHello.  I am new to ubuntu.  I had the older version and had the bit torrent gui client.  The new version says it is installed but I cannot seem to find the application.  Any advice?
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02:00sanityxKFDM, Yup I agree. And if it was life and death I'd build it or install a 3rd party .deb
02:00KFDMI've never had good luck with my broadcom card
02:00sanityxKFDM, But its really not.
02:00insomI've been assimilated!
02:00Moniker42i know what already, i'm not the one with the problem with root here ;)
02:00[Meta] Yes Flannel
02:00sanityxKFDM, I have broadcom too. ndiswrapper works like a charm.
02:00kazolI tried using ndiswrapper and fwcutter
02:00lbawinownswtf is this ntfs-3g writing thing? How do I delete files?????
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02:00[Meta] And I pressed enter on the text mode one
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02:00imperfect-kmfdm.doingitagain.
02:00[Meta] And it appeared with the freaking oem
02:00kazolI still cannot install my wifi card in Feisty.
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02:00sanityxkazol, ubuntu1501.blogspot.com has a good broadcom ndiswrapper guide.
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02:00AgrajagMoniker42: no, but you seem to have the wrong idea of how sudo works. I'm just lettin' you know
02:00Flannel[Meta] : eh?  No.  They look the same, they aren't the same though.
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02:01KFDMI haven't tried ndiswrapper with Fiesty yet
02:01sanityxIts for the inspiron 1501 laptop, but should apply to any card kazol
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02:01Moniker42kazol, if it's a brand new card, take it back and get a compatible one :)
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02:01sanityxsanityx, any broadcom card that is
02:01KFDMJust haven't bothered messing with wireless yet
02:01sanityxKFDM, The new network manager is awesome.
02:01jncfurrykef: 32-bit compatible libraries and a ld.so hack
02:01Moniker42wireless is made even more of a pain on ubuntu than windows because many of the drivers aren't supported
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02:01insomshould cover any broadcom from my understanding
02:01Flannelquio: If you just get a trrent, and then double click it, it'll run
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02:01Hamm_laptopanyone have suggestions for a good book for linux noobs,  one that covers the terminal extensively?
02:01KFDMmaybe I should try it later
02:01Moniker42at least ubuntu has a decent network manager...
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02:01thelostpatrolokay i got the files i need deleted but now how do i delete a directory that is locked?
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02:01Flannel!cli | Hamm_laptop
02:01ubotuHamm_laptop: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
02:01KFDMTrying to get pydev working with eclipse at the moment
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02:01k00giezhello
02:01[Meta] Flannel: Then what's the difference? O_O
02:02insomthat's because the manufacturer refuses to release the source
02:02k00giezhow do i get root access with ubuntu?
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02:02Jonahusser, well 2gb+2gb seems to cost more than 4x1gb....
02:02gluttonyi just installed baryl, now my large windows wont minimize
02:02dooglusAgrajag: the root account is locked by default.
02:02Agrajag!sudo > k00giez
02:02micahcowanHamm_laptop, http://www.unixmages.com/
02:02Dave_is_sexyguys i have a BIG problem, which I have diagnosed as due to "segmentation error".
02:02Agrajagdooglus: Yes, I explained that.
02:02jncJonah: basic desktop and web browser = 1GB per CPU core minimum
02:02KFDMk00giez, what do you need root for ?
02:02thelostpatrolgluttony, go to #beryl for help with that addon
02:02Flannel[Meta] : the OEM one is meant for OEM mfcs, so they can delay the initial user creation (username, timezone, language, etc) for the end user to setup after they buy
02:02micahcowanHamm_laptop, the link I gave includes a book that is available for free online, or can be purchased via lulu.
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02:02k00giezKFDM: i need root for vmware to get access to local disks
02:02quio<Flannel> Oh.  OK Thanks.
02:02usserJonah: mmm yea i'd say it doesnt make sense to leave the old stick just go 4x1gb from the same manufacturer, same model
02:02[Meta] Flannel: I don't understand?
02:02thelostpatrolokay i got the files i need deleted but now how do i delete a directory that is locked?
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02:02k00giezi really need a root access
02:02insomsudo vmware
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02:02KFDMIf it's a single command then sudo vmware
02:02jnck00giez: 'sudo -s -H'
02:02micahcowanDave_is_sexy, sounds like a bug. What program produced the segmentation error?
02:03Jonahusser, ok i would say that you're totally awesome dude, i'll put my order in thanks a lot
02:03k00giezjnc: do you know how to activate root login?
02:03Pelothelostpatrol,   sudo rm -d  /path/todir
02:03dooglusAgrajag: ok, sorry.  I thought you were saying that the root account had a null password.
02:03BryanJKdooglus: what do you do when you delete the application tray?
02:03jnck00giez: root exists, it just has been disabled for password login
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02:03thelostpatrolPelo, thanks
02:03KFDMyou can do sudo su to get root I guess
02:03insomman its been a long time since I've been on linux, good to be home
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02:03dooglusBryanJK: I add it back to the panel again...
02:03Flannel[Meta] : During a normal install, you'll setup your first user, tell the computer what timezone you're in, and stuff like that.  the OEM thing doesn't do that.  So the manufactrer of a PC can let the end user (the person who bought the computer) setup their own timezone and stuff.  But still have a full OS installed when they sell it.
02:03AgrajagKFDM: sudo -i
02:03[Meta] Oh
02:03KFDMbut I don't know why you would need to run completely in root
02:03insomI wouldn't suggest it though
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02:03jnck00giez: 'sudo -s -H' will get you a root prompt
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02:03Dave_is_sexyi can't open text files, or run scripts. so i tried to start mousepad from terminal. it says "segmentation error". I think it's due to a power cut
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02:04Flannelk00giez: You don't need/want to activate the root account
02:04BryanJKIts not in the add to panel selection
02:04kazolWhat package is the "NetworkManager Applet 0.6.4"? There are multiple entries in synaptec.
02:04k00giezjnc: do you know how to get root login in gdm to be activated?
02:04[Meta] Flannel: Do I use LVM or do I just wipe and install?
02:04dooglusBryanJK: right-click in the panel, 'add to panel', scroll to the bottom, and 'notification area'
02:04insomI agree with flannel
02:04jnck00giez: wtf don't do that
02:04Dave_is_sexy micahcowan: ^^^^^
02:04jnc:/
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02:04k00giezFlannel: i need to
02:04BryanJKdooglus: OH, that... thanks
02:04Agrajagk00giez: why?
02:04Flannelk00giez: no you dont
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02:04Flannel[Meta] : you don't need LVM, just wipe and install
02:04jncno, you don't k00giez
02:04k00giezso that i can run vmware with partition access
02:04[Meta] Okies.
02:04insomk00giez: just sudo whatever needs root access
02:04Agrajagk00giez: wtf don't do that, either
02:04ward_the header files some software needs when you compile it, what map do they need to be?
02:04kazolWhat package is NetworkManager Applet 0.6.4??? This is driving me nuts here.
02:04thelostpatrolPelo, didn't work
02:05micahcowanDave_is_sexy, what is mousepad, and how did you try to start it?
02:05[Meta] I only needed root when I was mounting Windows.
02:05jnck00giez: you "can" do that, but the reason people are all telling you not to is because running X as root is bad for the planet earth
02:05Agrajagk00giez: share the disk you want vmware to have access to. If you use a physical disk in vmware, you can do major damage if you mess up
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02:05Pelothelostpatrol,  did you get any messages ?
02:05lbawinownsHello. Please, does anybody succesfully removed files from ntfs drive? When I do no space get freed
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02:05panth3r?
02:05Dave_is_sexymicahcowan: ....so i need 'scandsk'. by terminal it's a text editor. emacs is still fine. I'm not sure the ap is relevant, isn't it a HDD integrity problem?
02:05insomjnc: I heard it kills kittens
02:05Hamm_laptopThanks guys
02:05thelostpatrolPelo, this: rm: cannot remove `/home/mike/Desktop/avant/doc-pak/': Is a directory
02:05dooglusk00giez: if you insist: sudo sed -i 's/^AllowRoot=false/AllowRoot=true/' /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
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02:06jncinsom: limecat confirms.
02:06[Meta] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
02:06[Meta] NOT THE KITTENS
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02:06k00giezok thanks
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02:06dooglusk00giez: it's a bad idea though
02:06Pelotheconartist,   "rm -d"    -d is important
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02:06aoirthoirwhats wrong with the kittens?
02:06insomnothing
02:06teenbeat2007ok mayby a dumb question in wich way is 7.04 better then 6.10
02:06Flannelk00giez: don't come back here expecting us to fix stuff when you break it though
02:06jnclbawinowns: there's a few common ways to try, are you referring to the write support in vanilla kernel ntfs driver?
02:06insomaoirthoir: running gnome as root kills kittens
02:06arch_how do I get a link to my home folder on my gnome desktop?
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02:06Flannelteenbeat2007: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704
02:06aoirthoirteenbeat2007, easier install of codecs:)
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02:07thelostpatrolPelo, i did that
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02:07insomFlannel: you know we'll try to fix it anyway though
02:07Flannelteenbeat2007: er, sorry.  wrong link
02:07lbawinownsjnc: I dont know what kernel is, but all I want is to delete files from my ntfs drive. It is like no space is getting freed
02:07micahcowanDave_is_sexy, I'm having a little trouble understanding what you did that caused you to encounter "segmentation error". The term /could/ mean HDD integrity problems... but the term is more frequently associated with badly written program code that attempts to access memory that doesn't belong to it.
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02:07Flannelteenbeat2007: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704tour
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02:07insomFlannel: after pointing and laughing of course
02:07dooglusarch_: funny you should ask that.  I was wondering how to get rid of the link to my home dir from my desktop, and why it's there at all - I never asked for it, it just appeared one day
02:07eegoreI am using feisty 64 Kubuntu and I cannot seem to get the mic to work in team speak
02:07jnclbawinowns: oh.   ntfs access is typically read-only
02:08Pelothelostpatrol,  the d option is suppose to delete the folders,   try gksu nautilus and try do to it in gui
02:08Dave_is_sexymicahcowan: Hmm. I cut the power cos it had been frozen for over 10 minutes
02:08dooglusarch_: I think you would run "ln -s .. ~/Desktop" to add the link
02:08lbawinownsjnc : i got ntfs-3g
02:08insom[Meta] : what're you installing?
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02:08Flannel[Meta] : yeah, but youve learnt a lot about it ;)
02:08arch_dooglus: I remember getting directions in this channel as to how to remove it, and I did so, and now I've decided I want it back
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02:08[Meta] I'm reinstalling Ubuntu on my laptop, insom
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02:08erpodooglus, arch_: To edit which icons appear on your desktop, run gconf-editor, and navigate to /apps/nautilus.
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02:08micahcowanDave_is_sexy, what were you or your computer doing when it froze? And then when did you see the "segmentation error"?
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02:08insom[Meta] : how come it took 3 rounds?
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02:09dooglusarch_: my bad.  that doesn't work.  do what erpo said
02:09lbawinownsjnc: it works sometimes, but I must do the shift-delete
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02:09jnclbawinowns: uh.   oh god, you're using the GUI
02:09[Meta] Because the first time, I couldn't get into it (wasn't watching instructions for usernames) and second time I killed the oem user.
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02:09Flannelinsom: after he installed, he proceeded to break it.  We all do it.  I think my first time I installed at least halfdozen times
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02:09lbawinownsjnc: what is GUI?
02:09jnclbawinowns: "recycle bin" or whatever it's called
02:09teenbeat2007is the ati driver part improved
02:09jnclbawinowns: empty that
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02:10EldaGUI is Graphical User Interphace
02:10eegoreI am using feisty 64 Kubuntu and I cannot seem to get the mic to work in team speak
02:10Dave_is_sexymicahcowan: i wasn't doing anything interesting. clicked an svg that didn't open, so clicked it loads more and a million inkscapes opened up. then it froze
02:10Elda*Interface
02:10glickheh what a jerk reiser
02:10Flannel[Meta] : is there a reason you're not using the Desktop CD?  It installs much faster (of course, it's less flexible)
02:10BryanJKibawinowns: Graphical User interface
02:10insomFlannel: really? this installed easier than a prom date
02:10lbawinownsjnc: yea, I thought so to, but it's empty
02:10[Meta] Flannel: My first time I did it first time over. :( (I'm female btw. :P)
02:10eegoreis that an issue with alsa?
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02:10Pelothelostpatrol,   rm -f /path
02:10kazolWhy the hell do I get this message when installing my wifi card: "The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue."??
02:10lbawinownsjnc: at least the one to down right
02:10[Meta] Flannel: Because the LiveCD always freezes.
02:10insom[Meta] : what does that have to do with anything?
02:10jnclbawinowns: sorry mate, i'm one of those glow-in-the-dark cave crawling hackers that operates by typing in all commands, I shun use of the mouse :P
02:10teenbeat2007flannel: what about the ati drivers and do i do upgrade in ubuntu or a total clean isnatll
02:10Eldakazol, Im not sure, but it seems that it would be that its not locating your driver? :>
02:10micahcowanDave_is_sexy, okay. Then, after you powered it off, and powered it back on, did it load back to the desktop, or did the "segmentation error" happen before it could do that?
02:10insom[Meta] : females use computers too
02:10Flannel[Meta] : aye.  That happens.  I don't bother with ti anymore, since I know the alt.CD works best.
02:10jnclbawinowns: welcome to the fray! :)
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02:11[Meta] insom: Yeah, but Flannel  called me a he. :P
02:11arch_erpo: thank you much
02:11insom[Meta] : more should use linux imo though
02:11lbawinownsjnc: ^^ aha ok, I'm new to ubuntu :D, getting scared of the word kernel
02:11spasticteapotHello all!
02:11insom[Meta] : ohhh ok excuse me
02:11thelostpatrolPelo, ok i'll try that
02:11kazolElda: I uninstalled all versions of network manager. Maybe I shouldn't have?
02:11Flannel[Meta] : I'm sorry if you took offense to it.  It's just a good choice for default gender.  Since, I'd rather that then neuter everyone
02:11[Meta] Flannel: I got the LiveCD from an IT convention thing.
02:11EldaNo idea :>  Im rather new to linux myself :>
02:12spasticteapotOkay, what's going on know?
02:12jnclbawinowns: kernel means "core" or "central group of functionality",  most computer uses of the word kernel refer to a bit of functionality that all other computer software integrates with
02:12lbawinownsjnc: anyway, can you hack with the terminal to see where all those file I delted went? It's no in the recycle vin :-/
02:12spasticteapotI have repeatedly messed up my Ubuntu installs, so I do know how to fix them.
02:12[Meta] And I installed it first time back in January. Then for some reason went back to Windows.
02:12Flannelteenbeat2007: they'll update as you upgrade.  That's the beauty of package management
02:12insomFlannel: typically in a linux chat room its a safe assumption
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02:12Madpilotspasticteapot, best way to learn something is to break it first, I find :)
02:12[Meta] Got a virus the night before last and decided I'd had enough of Windows.
02:12EldaLinux is not limited to males :>
02:12sethklbawinowns, you can use the find command.   You can use locate, if you've rebuilt the index since the files were moved
02:12lbawinownsjnc: it's like if my partition has it's own recycle bin
02:12Dave_is_sexymicahcowan: desktop, but wouldn't let me open a script i wanted to run from cdrom. nor any other file. then i tried as root, and files on the hard disk and other media. nothing. then terminal told be "segmentation error" when i typed "mousepad"
02:12usserbah insom +1 =)
02:12insom[Meta] : I'm doing the dual boot thing
02:13Flannel[Meta] : well, welcome back ;)
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02:13[Meta] I was dual booting before.
02:13spasticteapotMadpilot: Actually, the best way is to start with something broken, and fix it.
02:13sebas_when trying to install feisty, I get an error telling that the partition couldn't be formatted to ext3. Should I repair the filesystem?
02:13thelostpatrolPelo, thank you, that worked
02:13spasticteapotElda: Linux chicks are hawt.
02:13[Meta] Thankyou Flannel. *curtsey*
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02:13teenbeat2007flannel: im a bit scared of updating, last time i did with feisty my system totaly crashed and had to reinstall everything
02:13insomusser: female also?
02:13micahcowanDave_is_sexy, after it said "segmentation error", did you still have a shell prompt?
02:13Eldalol
02:13teenbeat2007" times
02:13teenbeat20073 times
02:13Flannelteenbeat2007: Do you use Automatix? or any other third party things?
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02:14EldaHair getting turned on, hmm :>
02:14teenbeat2007no just the standart tool
02:14lbawinownslol at you nerds -.- ...
02:14EldaPelo being hair in spanish xD
02:14kazolI don't know what to do now. I get this message: The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue.
02:14usserinsom: nah i just love those observations
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02:14jnclbawinowns: I don't know.   on my system, which is not Ubuntu, there's a Gnome based "recycle bin" in ~/.Trash   (Places | Home Folder,  press control key + 'l', type in ~/.Trash)
02:14insom[Meta] : good idea
02:14dooglusfjleon: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/pidgin_2.0.0-1_i386.deb
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02:14spasticteapotAnyone know if Fringejacket has been here lately?
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02:14insomusser: well 1200 users and one female has spoken up
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=== [Meta] knows enough about defending herself.
02:14insomand had the... uterus to speak up.
02:15spasticteapothttp://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/howto-set-up-feisty-for-speed/
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02:15fjleondooglus, how would you remove gaim (ubuntu-desktop and nautilus complain)
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02:15[Meta] insom: AHAHAHAHAHA
02:15EldaOh so now Im not female?
02:15spasticteapot[Meta] : There is nothing scarier than a mad scientist of EITHER gender when pissed.
02:15EldaAss hat >.>
02:15insom2 females!
02:15[Meta] :D
02:15dooglusfjleon: I wouldn't bother
02:15insomwe
02:15Flannel!offtopic
02:15ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
02:15[Meta] xD
02:15lbawinownslol
02:15insomwe're up to .001 percent
02:15spasticteapotLast I've checked, 50kv is not going to bias on gender.
02:15[Meta] Woops.
02:15Dave_is_sexymicahcowan: yes
=== usser i'd shorten it "theres nothing scarier than a mad scientist"
02:16dooglusfjleon: alternatively, I could make the package be called 'gaim' instead of pidgin - that might keep dpkg happy
02:16jncinsom: there's a lot of moms who use computers and write cobol... 40+
02:16kazolI hate Feisty. Ever since I "upgraded" from Dapper all my programs and settings were lost. Now I can't install my f*ckig wifi card.
02:16jncthen there's a gap
02:16micahcowanspasticteapot, look for FringeLicious. Not currently in this chan.
02:16spasticteapotAlso, check out Motho ke motho ka botho's guide to speeding up linux. http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/howto-set-up-feisty-for-speed/
02:16jncand now the younger CS majors.
02:16lbawinownskazol - don't you upgrade from edgy?
02:16dooglusspasticteapot: last time I saw FringeJacket: #ubuntu-2007-02-12.log:16:10 -!- FringeJacket [n=katie@m085e36d0.tmodns.net]  has quit [Nick collision from services.]
02:16spasticteapotjnc: I personally go for the Linux-using chixxors closer to my own age.
02:16insomElda: I mean no offense of course I'd love to see the majority of people switch to linux
02:16dooglusspasticteapot: ie. 2 months ago
02:17kazollbawinowns: I upgraded to Edgy, and I lost everything.
02:17[Meta] insom: Won't happen. :(
02:17micahcowanDave_is_sexy, it sounds like a bug in mousepad. Had mousepad been working before the reboot? And, did it come up with some sort of bug reporting tool after you got that message?
02:17insomthen I could play starcraft natively
02:17spasticteapotdooglus: She had a connection on a cheap CNC thingamajig, and I was hoping to take her up on it.
02:17lbawinownskazol - why ur flaming feisty ^^ ?
02:17jncspasticteapot: I've had my "share" of female friends that genuinely liked computers, I know well enough to stay the hell away
02:17spasticteapotAnd then my life went to heck.
02:17insom[Meta] : well it could...
02:17spasticteapotjnc: Wha?
02:17jncspasticteapot: Freak-y
02:17glickfor some reason in feisty restart doesnt work correctly
02:17[Meta] insom: But then again, we all know who the smarter users are. The ones that use Linux.
02:17Eldalol Ive tried switching to linux twice before, hopefully third time will be the charm
02:17glickhowever when i choose shutdown it correctly shutsdown the machine
02:17insom[Meta] : granted
02:17Peteki_hey?
02:17EldaThough atm, Im somewhat ignorant of all this linux stuff xD
02:17spasticteapotMaybe it's just me, but being able to ask your GF how to work ifconfig is nifty.
02:17Dave_is_sexymicahcowan: no mousepad was fine. i tried to reinstall it, but it wouldn't let me.
02:17[Meta] insom: Not while they install Windows on all new PCs.
02:18insomElda: welcome then!
02:18Eldaty xD
02:18micahcowanspasticteapot, I think you're wandering offtopic...
02:18IndyGunFreakElda: only 3x?..lol.. id love to share my trying linux experience, but it would take to long tt ype out..lol
02:18Dave_is_sexyhow do i run a HDD check?
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02:18insom[Meta] : dell is offering ubuntu
02:18kazollbawinowns: I can't install a wifi card, even though others said it had more multivendor support. And it's a very common one, and even has a separate installation procedure in the Feisty summary wiki.
02:18IndyGunFreakinsom: are they actually offering it now?
02:18spasticteapotmicahcowan: Eh, sorry....thought I was in ##trangle.
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02:18IndyGunFreakits been rmored
02:18jncinsom: show me a laptop for sale with Ubuntu preinstalled on it
02:18FlannelDave_is_sexy: `sudo touch /forcefsk` and then reboot
02:18[Meta] insom: I have a personal vendetta against Dells. :)
02:18usserinsom: they do now??
02:18EldaIndyGunFreak, its my third time trying it again, as I got fed up with Vista and the stupid driver issues -_-
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02:18usserwe're doomed then
02:18FlannelDave_is_sexy: er, sorry.  `sudo touch /forcefsck`
02:18IndyGunFreakElda: understood.
02:18jncinsom: i'm not kidding, I am in the market for one and can't find it on Dell's site
02:18insomIndyGunFreak: supposedly starting in september
02:18EldaIndyGunFreak,  well thrd time installing lol
02:18micahcowanspasticteapot, lol! :D
02:18lbawinownsElda: yea, be careful, my linux crashed today because I didnt know ubuntu don't cares that my drive is out of memory -.-
02:18EldaIve used it more that 3 times
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02:19jncElda: ignorant how?
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02:19IndyGunFreakinsom: i don't think they are actually installing Ubuntu on systems yet, it seems to be in the test phase
02:19glicktheir not offering it yet
02:19EldaLoL there are still MANY things I dont quite know about
02:19insomIndyGunFreak: I hope it passes
02:19Eldato do with linux
02:19FlannelGuys, this is a lovely conversation, but it needs to be in #ubuntu-offtopic
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02:19Eldaooh, sorry :>
02:19insomElda: you can do anything with linux
02:19Eldagoing there
02:19ctothejin gconf, if I want to signify the space bar, what should i type in (keyboard shortcuts)
02:19micahcowanFlannel, thanks, I was looking through fsck(8) for that :)
02:19insomexcept play starcraft natively
02:19lbawinownsinsom : can you have 37 dekstops at once? huh? huh?
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02:20CryoniqAnyone know of a install of Pidgin for Ubuntu? Or is it the rpm and source compile that is available at the moment?
02:20insomlbawinowns: yes
02:20k00giez!vmware
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02:20ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
02:20CryoniqPidgin 2.0 that is
02:20insomlbawinowns: actually
02:20jncElda: good.  you can keep folks like me in check (people who think they know everything) :)
02:20k00giez!virtualizers > k00giez
02:20EldaEhhh, Im still trying to figure out how to increase the fps of my laptops ipg (igp345m)
02:20CryoniqOoooh! VMware in repository.. yay!
02:20Flannelmicahcowan: it's in man shutdown, because it used to be tied with -F or whatever (which would just create /forcefsck), also...  /fastbook will circumvent your scheduled fsck, if you ever need to do that
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02:20insomlbawinowns: like to see that done in windows
02:21IndyGunFreakinsom: i hope it passes to, but its still early in testing
02:21Jack31Is there anyway to recover changes in document done in KATE text ediotr?
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02:21insomIndyGunFreak: lets call dell and nag them
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02:21Cryoniq!pidgin > Cryoniq
02:21jribncaller: you can use apt-file or packages.ubuntu.com to see what files are contained in a package
02:21IndyGunFreakinsom: i doubt that will do any good.
02:21FlannelJack31: what?  Once you've saved it, unless there are backups, its changed
02:21IndyGunFreak!pidgin
02:21ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept - At the time of feisty's final freeze, Pidgin has not been released, so Pidgin will not be going into feisty.  Expect Pidgin in feisty+1!  See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info
02:21insomif we keep calling and change our voice we may break them down
02:21jncinsom: uh.   freecraft.
02:21micahcowanFlannel, yeah, I'd come across it before (either in shutdown(8), or else in an rc file or somesuch), but couldn't recall what they were called :)
02:21lbawinownsWindows is quite good, but it has some things particulary put in to pain the user :-/
02:21insomjnc: touche
02:21Jack31FLannel, I had edited an open document, and then my computer got restarted
02:21Jack31im trying to recover the changes
02:22Jack31:(
02:22glicki hope hans reiser will still develop reiserfs from jail
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02:22FlannelJack31: ah.  No, don't believe you'll find anything like that
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02:22Jack31shit
02:22Cryoniq0o
02:22jncinsom: show me a replacement for PeachTree Accounting, or for Viso
02:22insomlbawinowns: I dunno I don't like what windows stands for
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02:22Flannelmicahcowan: yeah.  Once I get a laptop, I imagine I'll be using /fastboot a bunch, whenever Im doing presentations and such.
02:22Judoserver irc.gamesurge.net
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02:22insomjnc: there's accounting software out there
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02:23k00giezhow do i install c header files?
02:23Petekiam i here?
02:23Jack31no
02:23glickwrite yoiur own accounting application to replace peachtree
02:23insomas far as visio theres an alternative there too
02:23materacapohello
02:23Petekifak me
02:23dooglusk00giez: depends which ones...
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02:23jncinsom: gnucash doesn't do inventory.
02:23glickshouldnt be hard with python and wxwidgets
02:23k00giezdooglus: the one needed for ubuntu
02:23dooglusk00giez: the build-essential package will get you started
02:23insomjnc: you just like shooting me down
02:23GohalienHi, my windows borders gone, and I only can see 1 work area =( anyone can help me ?
02:23dooglusk00giez: you don't need any header files to run ubuntu - it's a binary distribution
02:23micahcowank00giez, you usually want the package that has the same name as the library you want headers for, but with "-dev" at the end.
02:23Petekithanmks
02:23jncinsom: I do work integrating *nix solutions for small business
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02:24Petekifuck me running
02:24jncnot even big business, it's just the way it is
02:24insomjnc: nice
02:24lbawinownsAnyway, a question about linux in general, is all the things in ubuntu and other linuxes just something that make terminal commands for you with graphics on top of it?
02:24StriderZanyone happen to know why I did an upgrade and it basically removed ubuntu-desktop? (my box crashed during an upgrade previously). Should I just re-install it?
02:24Flannel!language | Peteki
02:24ubotuPeteki: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
02:24ward_if i'm compiling something and it misses header files, but i'm 10% sure everything needed is installed, is there any map i can copy them manually into?
02:24k00giezdooglus: i have apt-get install build-essentials. but it seems that the vmware installer could not detect /usr/src/linux/include ... any ideas?
02:24insomjnc: if you ever need a sidekick look me up
02:24dooglusPeteki: it would be easier if you'd stay still
02:24PeloGohalien,  do you mean thetop an bottom pannels are gone ?
02:24Flannelk00giez: build-essential, not essentials
02:24Petekisorry
02:24CryoniqHmm.. is rpm something working under ubuntu and is it anything to recomend?
02:24ward_10% = 100%
02:24micahcowank00giez, The standard library headers are in libc6-dev, for instance
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02:24dooglusk00giez: linux-headers ?
02:24dooglus!info linux-headers
02:24Gohalienyes pelo, I only see 1 of them
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02:24ubotuPackage linux-headers does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
02:24jnclbawinowns: you're asking a nice well thought out question, sorry that things scroll by so fast
02:24Petekippl just dont get me
02:24dooglus!info kernel-headers
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02:24ubotuPackage kernel-headers does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
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02:24Petekiim new with these
02:25dooglus!info linux-headers-generic
02:25glicklbawinowns, no
02:25Cryoniq!rpm > Cryoniq
02:25dooglus^-- that one, k00giez
02:25lbawinownsjnc: and too bad replyers aint really replying :p
02:25PeloGohalien,  right click on it,   add a pannel,  a new pannel will be generated,  move it to where you want ( bottom ) right click on it,  select add to pannel
02:25ubotulinux-headers-generic: Generic Linux kernel headers. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.20.15.14 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
02:25GohalienPelo: when I activate the desktop effects, windows borders are gone, that means I cant move a window and only shows me 1 panel
02:25insomlbawinowns: pretty much
02:25Petekiargh
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02:25insomlbawinowns: but so is windows really
02:25StriderZgeezus traffic is high in here...
02:25Petekiis quakenet on or not?
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02:25GohalienPelo:  cant add
02:25insomlbawinowns: as is any GUI
02:25IndyGunFreakGohalien: thats been my prob to.
02:25jnclbawinowns: if you'd like to pick my brain, I'm 12 years + using GNU/Linux based OS distros... drop me a privmsg
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02:26lbawinownsinsom, glick : how is ubuntu then
02:26PeloGohalien,  that's a desktop effect issue ask in #ubuntu-effects, they'll know how to sort you out
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02:26insomlbawinowns: I'm digging it so far
02:26lbawinownsjnc: are you seriously 12 uaer old?
02:26bsodbleh kernel compiles take time:(
02:26badkittyAnyone have demonoid?
02:26insomi'm about 20 minutes into ubunto
02:26Petekifak me raning i seee the whait rbit
02:26glicklbawinowns, some apps are gui based, some are command line based, some apps are simply gui frontends to commandline apps
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02:26insomI came from Gentoo
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02:26GohalienIndyGunFreak:  did you fixxed it ?
02:26jnclbawinowns: i'm 23.   I started out with a copy of slackware linux many years ago
02:26BicchiWhat is the proper way to install an eclipse plugin that its not on the repository? Like subclipse
02:26vox754!ops
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02:26ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
02:26micahcowanlbawinowns, I think you misread :) ...but there are 12 year olds here sometimes.
02:26IndyGunFreakGohalien: no.
02:26glicklbawinowns, manu applications have commandline equivalents
02:26IndyGunFreakhavne't figured it out.
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02:26bsodinsom: i heard good things about gentoo
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02:26jribvox754: ?
02:26Gohalien^^
02:26LjLvox754: yep?
02:27glicklbawinowns, for example lynx is a commandline webbrowser
02:27Petekiei toimi silim nui nopiaa
02:27Madpilotvox754, ??
02:27CryoniqThat is neat :) Reminds me when  I was 7 years old and lay my hands on my fathers ABC80/800 computer once upon a time :)
02:27StriderZSome apps are even gui front-ends to cli apps...but still in cli...it's crazy....LOL
02:27MindOfChaosAfterDeath exists
02:27insombsod: its great for the uber geek
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02:27vox754jrib, hey things are getting strange here
02:27IndyGunFreakwhy did someone call an op?
02:27insombsod: BUT its really easy to bork
02:27jribvox754: in what way?
02:27bsodinsom: but once i started ubuntu i never looked back :>
02:27usserCryoniq: omg i had one of those speccy z80 machines
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02:27lbawinownsglick, interesting.
02:27Cryoniq:P
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02:27insombsod: I can see why at the moment
02:27micahcowanvox754, you mean Peteki?
02:27vox754LjL, Madpilot jrib any news with the new IRC ops or something, I read something about seveas
02:27usserCryoniq: timex they were called here in the US
02:27Petekigimme the command for quakenet
02:27CryoniqAh :)
02:28Madpilotvox754, did you seriously ping the ops just to ask that?
02:28insombsod: though I'm about to install the nvidia drivers
02:28LjLvox754, that's not why you use the !ops trigger.
02:28Lord_Maynoth_42can anyone halp me? :D    I want my LCD monitor to turn off like it did in windows... it just goes to a black screen
02:28vox754micahcowan, yeah, that and another guys
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02:28Petekifuxk mew runinng
02:28Lord_Maynoth_42I am using the vesa driver for it
02:28CryoniqWho didnt digg into the basic code of snakes back then ^^
02:28insombsod: if my system explodes mid install I won't be all that impressed
02:28badkittyanyone use demonoid?
02:28bsodinsom: my ati drivers where installed by synaptic... perhaps its the same for nvidia
02:28insombsod: synaptic?
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02:28vox754Madpilot, LjL, jrib sorry, I just thought people were going off topic and cursing
02:28jncLord_Maynoth_42: 'set +dpms' I think
02:28bsodinsom: i have now ogl 2.0 with ati closed driver
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02:28micahcowanvox754, you need to tell them who, so they can check it out.
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02:29wysiwyghihi
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02:29bsodinsom: the package manager of ubuntu is that
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02:29insomaah
02:29LjLvox754: well *that's* a good reason for using !ops.
02:29badkittyhey
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02:29wysiwyghow do i change boot splash, login screen and shutdown splash resolutions?
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02:29insomso just install and go?
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02:29bsodSystem>Adminsitration>Synaptic Package Manager
02:29insomhey kitty
02:29CryoniqHmm.. so.. decision decision.. compile Pidgin 2.0  or wait for apt package for ubuntu.. hmm hmm..
02:29aoirthoirI'm lookin for cursin..but cant find it.
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02:29LjLPeteki, do you have an Ubuntu support question or have you just joined the wrong channel?
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02:29bsodinsom: yup
02:29insomI'm not cursin I'll get kickbanned
02:29glicki wish that game developers would also release native linux builds
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02:29badkittyDoes anyone have a demoinoid account who doesn't mindsharing an invite? :-D
02:29insomalright bsod... I'm going in
02:29usserCryoniq: i dont pidgin is any different than gaim 2.0
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02:30bsodoh is it a *that* kind of channel #here :P
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02:30CryoniqI never was any good deinstalling software I compiled and installed on my systems and I still suck at it..
02:30glickespecially civilization 4 :(
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02:30Pelobadkitty,  this isnT' a place to troll for torrent site invites
02:30ziggy23I have a Conexant HSF V.92 RTAD PCI Faxmodem.  I don't think it is a Winmodem,
02:30lbawinownsim feeling like and idiot now, bsod!
02:30vox754micahcowan, LjL sorry, again the ops. Please watch closely badkitty Peteki
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02:30nixternalIf it isn't related to Ubuntu support, please take it to the offtopic room. Thank you.
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02:31davrocould java 1.5 or greater be installed in fiesty ?
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02:31wysiwyghow do i change boot splash, login screen and shutdown splash resolutions?
02:31ziggy23but I can't identify the chipset because ClamAV starts up when I click the .run file.
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02:31insombsod: wish me luck
02:31bsodinsom: good luck :)
02:31badkittyI have a question, does anyone have twinview working with a DVI port?
02:31jncLjL: I have a question not answered by google searches, are Ubuntu-preinstalled laptops for sale from Dell right now?
02:32vox754aoirthoir, pardon?
02:32cablesjnc, not yet
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02:32jncI'm in the market for one, but I didn't see it listed on Dell's site.   ah, okay
02:32Shadow_Xhow do I find out what the encoding of my system is?
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02:32IndyGunFreakis Pidgin final release yet?
02:32cablesjnc, however, System76 is a good solution for a preinstalled Ubuntu machine
02:32aoirthoirvox754, some things are offtopic so i am pming you
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02:32cablesIndyGunFreak, yep
02:32jnccables: noted. thanks
02:32StriderZIs there a site that compares and contrasts the different desktop options for ubuntu?
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02:32ziggy23how would I get the modem running?
02:32IndyGunFreakcables: thanks
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02:33jncziggy23: 'minicom' terminal emulator is useful to talk to serial devices
02:33micahcowanHi Dave_is_sexy
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02:33FlannelStriderZ: We can do it ;)  What are you looking for?
02:33Dave_is_sexymicahcowan:debian:/media/cdrom# ./installer.exe
02:33Dave_is_sexybash: ./installer.exe: Permission denied
02:33jncziggy23: if you can issue it some AT commands and the responses look sane, it might be a hardware modem
02:33usserCryoniq: making a package now
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02:33usserCryoniq: of pidgin
02:33CryoniqAh =)
02:33Lord_Maynoth_42jnc, thanks..
02:34usserCryoniq: do u have amd64?
02:34jncziggy23: back years ago, I would use 'wvdial' to set up the chap-ppp scripts needed to get the modem to dial and connect
02:34Lord_Maynoth_42jnc, do you know where do I run set +dpms?
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02:34Lord_Maynoth_42from terminal
02:34kazolI still can't install this wifi card! I Hate Feisty! Worse than Dapper.
02:34micahcowanDave_is_sexy, you can't normally run Windows EXE files from Ubuntu, at least unless you run them under wine or something similar.
02:34CryoniqNo Im on a 32 bit system
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02:34Dave_is_sexymicahcowon: hi. that's my error when trying to run a script as root (i know it's an exe, but it's just a stupidly named sh script)
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02:34StriderZFlannel: I'm used to the flexibility and "lightness" of rox+sawfish. I need to conserve resources and still be able to bind keys, have multiple desktops..Don't really need a lot of bells and whistles. Just usability.
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02:34IndyGunFreakcables: where is there a debian package?
02:34vox754aoirthoir, okay, I've read your comment. Don't worry, I was just reading a lot of nonsense and couldn't believe nobody seemed to care. Thanks.
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02:34IndyGunFreakor am i gonna have to compile it
02:34SolverHi all.  The d/l page on ubuntulinux.org is broken for all mirrors for me (for 7.04 x86).  I could d/l the iso however by visting the relevant mirror
02:34jncLord_Maynoth_42: 'xset +dpms' command, I think.   there's a lot of funny sorts of things you can do with xset, 'man xset' has a list
02:34cablesIndyGunFreak, nowhere now... build from source! It's not difficult.
02:34micahcowanDave_is_sexy, oh, okay. Can you do "ls -l ./installer.exe", then?
02:34kazolI cannot get a wifi card to work: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
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02:35CryoniqI never had the heart to let go of my trusty 3.0 ghz Intel ^^
02:35IndyGunFreakcables: ok
02:35Braddf0rdHello ever1, could someone tell me why compiz keeps failing me? I had it running like 3 minutes ago and all of the sudden it just quit... and wouldn't come back on
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02:35Dave_is_sexymicahcowan: er, yes if i reboot again.  :(
02:35kazolHow do I install this stupid wifi card!??
02:35cables!effects | Braddf0rd
02:35ubotuBraddf0rd: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
02:35StriderZLord: what are you trying to do, again?
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02:35usserhe
02:35ziggy23There is a chipset ID program at http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/ but how do I shut off clamav to run it?
02:35jncLord_Maynoth_42: I have that same issue here, I just turn off the LCD power by hand, because the power light blinks when it is off...  it annoyed me either way and I gave up on it
02:35micahcowanDave_is_sexy, why reboot?
02:35Lord_Maynoth_42yeah
02:35micahcowanAre you on Windows now?
02:35Dave_is_sexymicahcowan: incidently, mousepad works fine for root
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02:35insombsod: is apt-get a good option for driver install?
02:35FlannelStriderZ: Hmm.  Well, Xubuntu would definately be the place to start.  I personaly don't know if you can bind keys, but I can't imagine you wouldn't be able to.  So, that's certainly a good thing to take a closer look at.  #xubuntu might be able to answer the question re: binding keys.
02:35Wriest_where do I if I need help downloading a program?
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02:35glickkazol did you try a google check?
02:35Lord_Maynoth_42xubuntu rules
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02:35Lord_Maynoth_42:D
02:36cablesWriest, ask here
02:36StriderZFlannel: ah...cool. Thanks!
02:36Gohalien!nvidia
02:36Dave_is_sexymicahcowan: wireless isn't working in linux yet :( I've spent days on it
02:36ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
02:36PeloWriest,  what program ?
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02:36FlannelStriderZ: of course, You COULd always just install rox/sawfish.
02:36micahcowanDave_is_sexy, but not non-root? I'd file a bug against mousepad, at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
02:36Lord_Maynoth_42wireless is spotty still :c I have a machine with a linksys 802.11g card that works great
02:36Lord_Maynoth_42and one with a dlink which wont work at all
02:36Lord_Maynoth_42:C
02:36Wriest_first java and then Azureus
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02:36micahcowanDave_is_sexy, what wifi card do you have?
02:36StriderZFlannel: LOL, yeah. I may go that route, but neither of those is being actively developed AFAIK
02:36FlannelStriderZ: they're in the repositories.  Grab the alternate CD, install a GUI-less option (it's called "server" on the alt CD), then install the GUI stuff you want.
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02:37kazolglick: yes! I tried both methods. I could explain everything I did, but it would take a lot of time.
02:37Wriest_I already downloded them
02:37vox754aoirthoir, sorry, I'm not registered. But then again, I assure you I'm not a newbie. Don't worry. Sorry again. Come to #vocx.
02:37FlannelStriderZ: ah.  Well, that'd be the issue with that.  But, definately check out Xubuntu.
02:37PeloWriest,  you can get both from synaptic,
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02:37Dave_is_sexymicahcowan: funny that it happened at the same time as the root script permsiiosns though huh?
02:37PeloWriest,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
02:37Wriest_oh really
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02:37kazolI'm thinking of going back to Dapper or Windows XP.
02:37insombrb guys
02:37Dave_is_sexymicahcowan: the card is irrelevant, i've got the driver working fine. it's an ip tables problem now
02:37PeloWriest, just make sure all the repos are installed
02:37Peloenabled
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02:38Punkunitylution
02:38Dave_is_sexymicahcowan: it's all VERY difficult. and not being root when all you're doing is setting things up is such a pain
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02:38koyo001hello having tons of problems installing java on fiesty
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02:39glicki find it hard to believe that a network card would be working in an earlier version of ubuntu and stop working in a later version of ubuntu
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02:39koyo001could someone help me out
02:39jnckazol: that wifi hardware is a complete pain in the ass, I have it working on my grandfather's laptop system...  just nothing but trouble
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02:39jribkoyo001: have you been to the wiki page?
02:39jeffwheelerIs there any way to take a normal Ubuntu session and move it over to live, or something with chroot where a live session can be created without rebooting? I'm sure there's something neat that could be done with this.
02:39Pelokoyo001,  just enable all the repos and install it from synaptic
02:39micahcowanDave123, you can always become root. "sudo -i" works quite well from your admin user account.
02:39koyo001yes been to the wiki
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02:39jribkoyo001: ok, so what errors did you get?  (use pastebin)
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02:40koyo001c
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02:40koyo001the errors are that it cannot load a doc file
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02:40koyo001from java 5
02:40koyo001and the same from java 5
02:40jncjeffwheeler: might not be what you want, but if you've got a core 2 duo CPU, you can boot the ISO of a live cd in a virtualized environment
02:40jribkoyo001: pastebin the actual error you receive and the command you entered to receive the error
02:40BryanJKdooglus: how do you put a trash icon on the Avant dock?
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02:41koyo001wait let me generate it
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=== usser well pidgin is slightly different than gaim 2.0 beta, polished interface the thing that first strikes u
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02:42SlickMcRunfastis the site back up?
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02:42SlickMcRunfastit was down this morning
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02:43koyo001here is the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19186/
02:43PeloSlickMcRunfast,  ther is an easy way to find out ,  much easier then asking here
02:43jeffwheelerjnc: yeah, that's what I was thinking; just run qemu with the iso
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02:43LocoHi i've installed amsn by svn, or at least thats what i think, and when i try to executed by typing amsn in the console i get the following message: /usr/local/bin/amsn: line 3: exec: wish: not found. What does it mean?
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02:44jribLoco: you need the tk8.4 package which provides "wish"
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02:44Locojrib,  thats the thing that i've installed it as well
02:44koyo001jrib: posted the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19186/
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02:45mneptokLoco: why not just install from repos?
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02:45Locomneptok,  cause that's a special version that lets you send messages while being offline and i want that just like windows msn
02:45jribkoyo001: that's to install java?  Why not use the repositories like the wiki explains?
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02:45SteveWrightNZI'm getting a lot of failed EXT3 filesystem errors, resulting in a remountro - is there a recent problem, or do I have a stuffed disk ?
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02:46jncSteveWrightNZ: :(
02:46SteveWrightNZyer mate
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02:46glickyour disk is prolly biting the bit bucket
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02:46koyo001can you give me the wiki you are using
02:46hendrixskiI can't connect to a WPA wireless
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02:46SteveWrightNZglick: yeah I think so too.. just wanted to check before I ditch the whole system
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02:47StriderZhrm. Kubuntu - 1.3G, Ubuntu-desktop - 1.4G, Xubuntu - 892M, sawfish+rox - 241M.....LOL
02:47jrib!java > koyo001 (see the private message from ubotu)
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02:47hendrixskisupposedly if I have all the stuff installed in feisty for WPA wireless
02:47glicki had a disk die on me with alll my music and movies on it like 200 gigs worth, i was not a happy camper
02:47jncSteveWrightNZ: swap out the disk and data before it eats platter.   you can determine if the drive has failed by booting a livecd and writing zeroes to the whole thing, watching for errors in dmesg
02:47jribkoyo001: in here, "the wiki" is wiki.ubuntu.com :)
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02:47SteveWrightNZjnc: k
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02:47jnchendrixski: common problem.
02:48hendrixskijnc, is there a common solution?  because installing wpasupplicant didn't seem to work
02:48[Meta] Augh
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02:48usserCryoniq: btw about that source code install/uninstall problem ry checkinstall
02:48koyo001http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19186/
02:48jnchendrixski: using Desktop | Admin | Networking  will break networkmanager
02:48usser*try
02:48jnchendrixski: Fiesty?
02:48koyo001that was the wiki i was using
02:48hendrixskijnc, yup :-)
02:49koyo001the one for fiesty fawn
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02:49jribkoyo001: what command gave you the output you pastebinned?
02:49SteveWrightNZjnc: networkmanager will break anything - dont run it on a router  8-o
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02:49jnchendrixski: using NetworkManager requires that /etc/network/interfaces be devoid of any references to the wireless network interface
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02:50jncand um, "Network" configuration dialog makes changes to /etc/network/interfaces
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02:50jncso there you go. that's one theory why it's broken
02:50koyo001sudo aptitude remove sun*
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02:50jribkoyo001: *remove*?  aren't you installing?
02:50hendrixskijnc, Ok... so, I should just coment out any changes to /etc/network/interfaces and it should work?
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02:51koyo001i was trying uninstalling it to reinstall it all together through apt get
02:51jnchendrixski: yeah, look it over and just comment out anything that you want NetworkManager to maintain
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02:51hendrixskijnc, looks the same way I remember it being... only two lines:
02:51jribkoyo001: I don't understand.  Did you previously install it through apt or did you install it some other way before?
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02:52jnchendrixski: I hear this issue frequently, it may be the cause of the problem you're experiencing
02:52koyo001look
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02:52hendrixskiauto lo   ... and iface lo inet loopback
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02:52Wriestok I have azureus  in synaptic but it nothing to install it
02:52SteveWrightNZ++jnc && ++glick && exit   /* thanks fellas  */
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02:52koyo001i installed it on my girlfriends computer with apt get and worked fine
02:52jnchendrixski: the only lines in /etc/network/interfaces should be those two, so that the loopback interface is automatically brought up on boot and set to loopback
02:52jribWriest: you can't right click > install?
02:52slimdoes any1 know how to get "dvd decrypter" to find my dvd drive?
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02:52jribkoyo001: please prefix what you say with my name
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02:53hendrixskiyup... so jnc in theory it should "just work" ?
02:53jncERROR  expected ';' on line Steve. Abort
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02:53err0rprobleme wifi avec hercule wirlless
02:53Wriestno the apply button is blacked out
02:53jncslim: what, like k9copy?
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02:53koyo001jrib: tried installing it through synaptic on mine and it installed some packages and others it couldn't
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02:54kazolI need to run this cmd to make my wifi work: "sudo modprobe bcm43xx." When I add it to sessions, it does not run, probably because it needs my passwrd. What do I do??
02:54matt___is it possible to use alltray in beryl?
02:54jribkoyo001: ok, so pastebin the output from: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
02:54koyo001jrib: now been trying to install the missing packages cause i cant install nothing else now
02:54Wriest<jrib> no the apply button is blacked out
02:54matt___also, is it a bad idea to remove compiz if i am using beryl? like, sudo apt-get remove compiz?
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02:54jnckazol: the contents of /etc/modules will be modprobe'd on boot
02:54Cryoniqusser, ooh, that is a neat util I really missed back in the days using slackware. (I should really take a month or so and just update my knowledge around administration).
02:54jnckazol: that may be what you really want
02:54kazoljnc: but they don't!
02:54jribWriest: what happens if you do: sudo apt-get install azureus
02:55kazoljnc: I have spent hours trying to get my wifi to work in Feisty.
02:55slimjnc: no "dvd decrypter" is a windows program in "WINE" it runs dut it cannot detect devices?!!!!
02:55jnckazol: privmsg, we'll work through it.  i'll give you 10 minutes :)
02:55virusplease give me #ubuntu-fr
02:55slimbut*
02:55koyo001jrib: gives me the exact same thing
02:55jribvirus: /join #ubuntu-fr
02:55matt___slim: one thing, make sure wine thinks it is windows 98, i think
02:55reptyl_newb here. i just downloaded thunderbird-2.0.0.0.tar.gz. how do i instal it? thanks
02:55jribkoyo001: and after you press enter?
02:55matt___slim: hold on
02:55Wriestit's working ans what about java
02:55slimmatt: ok thank you
02:55kazoljnc: I'm not registered, so I cannot make private msgs
02:55Wriestsame way
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02:56jribkoyo001: or "no" and then return or whatever
02:56noikehello my usb printer is not detected
02:56kazolIs there a separate wifi channel? Is it like #ubuntu-wifi?
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02:56koyo001jrib: it ends but incompleted
02:56AcuI have an .iso file - how can I see the content without burning it into a CD ?
02:56jnckazol: /msg nickserv register yournewpassword
02:56matt___slim: i am looking for the tutorial i used, it is possible, and it works fine. i was in your boat a few months ago
02:56jribkoyo001: do you actually want the jdk?
02:56glickhey has anyone used or developed on wireshark?
02:57jncAcu: mount it as a loop device
02:57kazoljnc: is that the syntax? where should I type it?
02:57slimis it the dvd shrink dvd decrypt tut???
02:57koyo001jrib: yeah cause apparently every other program needs it
02:57matt___slim: the one i used worked really well
02:57Wriest<jrib> what about java do it same way
02:57slimok
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02:57jncAcu: sudo -s -H;  mkdir mountdest; mount -t iso9660 -o loop myfile.iso mountdest;  ls mountdest; umount mountdest; rmdir mountdest; exit
02:57jrib!java > Wriest (see the private message from ubotu)
02:57jncsomething like that
02:57jribWriest: you didn't get errors?
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02:57koyo001jrib: tried installing other stuff and generates the same error while installing it
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02:58jribkoyo001: ok, so have you tried doing what the message says?
02:58jncAcu: in theory I think that the GUI archive manager should be able to peer into it
02:58Wriestno I'm downloading the azureus
02:58kazoldoes anyone here know howto run this cmd: "sudo modprobe bcm43xx" at startup?
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02:58jribWriest: through APT right?
02:58Wriestno through the terminal
02:58glickhey does ubvuntu include programs that have crude names/
02:58koyo001jrib: cant find these exact packages, i find newer or different ones
02:58matt___slim: here it is. http://mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/ follow it step by step. im going to go, but if you need help, show someone the tutorial, and they can help you. but it is easy. i did this like my second day in linux, peice of cake! :)
02:58jribWriest: using apt-get command?
02:58gravemindhey synaptic says the software can't be authenticated. I know I can install it anyway, but how do I get it to authenticate?
02:58glicklike if a developer creates an awesome program
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02:58jncglick: what like 'bitchx'
02:58glickbut it has a swear in its name
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02:59glickjnc, or like brainfuck
02:59Wriestsudo apt- get install
02:59jncoh, brainfuck is fun
02:59cables!offtopic
02:59ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
02:59kazolis there a way to specify the passwrd as a parameter in this cmd:"sudo modprobe bcm43xx"??
02:59slimthats the tutorial im reading!!!
02:59jribkoyo001: hmm, search for "doc" on the page, and click "download" next to "J2SE 5.0 Documentation"
02:59ConfidentiaLwhat do I need to do if people in windows need a login to use my shared folders?
02:59Wriestyes
02:59Madpilotglick, nope. There's even a picture/movie organizing app called pornview in the repos.
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02:59fouressenc1I'm having trouble with audio cutting out in 7.04.  I compiled ALSA 1.014rc4 for use with my Tascam US224 USB card, and it works fine aside from the sound halting fairly often --I actually have to stop whatever is playing, then restart it.  Any ideas?
02:59jncglick: I don't see why they wouldn't
02:59kazolFor example, "sudo modprobe bcm43xx <mypassword>"??
02:59jncuhh
02:59slimmatt: it goes all the way till its time to burn
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03:00glickheh sweet
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03:00gravemindConfidentiaL: sudo smbpasswd -a
03:00gravemindConfidentiaL: use your login username and password
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03:00kazolhow do I specify my password in a sudo cmd?
03:00Wriestyes I'm using  using apt-get command
03:00jribkazol: it will prompt you for the password after the command
03:00gravemindhey do you guys know about authentication in synaptic?
03:01jncgravemind: IIRC it's based on apt authentication
03:01jncapt-key etc.
03:01koyo001jrib: could you give me the precise page for the wiki that you used
03:01slimmatt: do you think that if i uninstalled wine and everything else and started the tutorial from scratch that would work??? (i already had wine installed)
03:01gravemindjnc: so if I get a message that it can't be authenticated, what do I do to fix it?
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03:01kazoljrib: I want the cmd to run automatically at startup.
03:01jribkoyo001: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java but your issue is unrelated.  You have a package that is set to install that is not what the wiki recommends
03:01jnckazol: I don't think you do.   you could modify the sudo config to automagically grant access with no password, I urge you not to do that
03:02jribkazol: what kind of command?
03:02reptyl_newb here. i just downloaded thunderbird-2.0.0.0.tar.gz. how do i instal it? thanks
03:02ConfidentiaLgravemind: It still doesn't work :S
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03:02Aloneaok, I am trying to put on vmware, and someone sent me to a page where it said to install it through the repos. I did that, but it does not work. I click on the vmware server thing, it goes to loading phase, and then goes off.
03:02Wriest<jrib> should I do java the same way sudo apt- get install
03:02gravemindConfidentiaL: describe what happens
03:02jribkoyo001: http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index_jdk5.jsp is the page that has the link to the file you need
03:02kazoljrib: sudo modprobe bcm43xx
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03:02jribWriest: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
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03:03jnckazol: more than likely you're doing it wrong, and there's a gap in communication here because I don't have enough information from you to suggest a course of action
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03:03insomevil
03:03|StOnE|how i can activate beryl??
03:03insomtruly evil
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03:03ConfidentiaLgravemind: He still needs a password, and the password I set as smb password doesn't work...
03:04insombsod: it didn't work :(
03:04kazoljnc: It's a long story of what I did, but I'm trying to get this stupid wifi card to work in Feisty. I installed the drivers, but they are not loading at startup. The cmd "sudo modprobe bcm43xx" makes it work, but I need it to run at startup.
03:04insomxserver wouldn't start up
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03:04gravemindConfidentiaL: it should work. is the username he's using the same as the one you put into smbpasswd? remember it's case sensitive
03:04jnckazol: if you want a module to load at boot time, the name of the module must be in /etc/modules
03:05kazoljnc: so how will I do it?
03:05Wriesthow do I get rid of the panels?
03:05jnckazol: if it's not loaded, then the module is failing to load
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03:05PeloWriest, right click remove
03:05bsodinsom: bummer :(
03:05ConfidentiaLgravemind: should the "New SMB password" be the username?
03:05kazoljnc: it should have automatically loaded, but if I do it manually throught terminal the wifi works fine.
03:05jnckazol: sorry, I understand this is annoying and complicated
03:05bsodinsom: i'm still compiling the kernel for my stuff
03:05n2diyWriest: Right click on them, and edit properties
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03:05insombsod: going round 2
03:06bsod:)
03:06gravemindConfidentiaL: no, that's the new password. hmm maybe I gave you the wrong option
03:06gravemindjust a sec
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03:06jnckazol: can you throw a copy of your /etc/modules up on a pastebin?  I'll have a look
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03:06bsodinsom: ltrs m8 i'm going sleep
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03:06Dave_is_sexy-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 1688185 2007-02-22 22:14 ./installer.exe
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03:07WriestIs there a way to get rid of the panels and still have the icons on the desktop
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03:07jncthere should seriously be a "Skills you need to learn, so that you are helpable"
03:07Dave_is_sexymicahcowan:^^
03:07kazol!pastebin
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03:07ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
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03:07insomreiserfs, yes or no?
03:07ConfidentiaLgravemind: got it now, just needed to add the username after the command... Think I misunderstood you a little the first time
03:07gravemindConfidentiaL: sorry, what you should be doing is sudo smbpasswd -a <your ubuntu username>
03:07gravemindyeah
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03:07[Meta] Flannel: Its almost finished installing. :D Be back soon.
03:07WriestIs there a way to get rid of the panels and still have the icons on the desktop?
03:07Pelojnc,  don'T be mean, we all had to start somewhere, some just start a bit further back
03:07ConfidentiaLgravemind: thx for your help =)
03:08gravemindsure thing
03:08cablesWriest, yeah
03:08cablesWriest, just get rid of the panels.
03:08insomreiserfs or ext3? what should I go with?
03:08cablesWriest, right click>delete panel
03:08micahcowanDave_is_sexy, you should probably try invoking it with "bash ./installer.exe"; it probably is just missing a shebang line or somesuch.
03:08Wriestcan you tell how please
03:08PeloWriest, right cick properties,  second tab make them transparent
03:08cablesinsom, ext3 probably... it's better supported
03:08cablesWriest, right click on the panel, hit delet.
03:08cables*delete
03:08Dave_is_sexyinsom: reiserfs!! definately. less likely to screw you over
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03:08kazoljnc: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19190/ Please have a look.
03:08jnckazol: can do, thanks mate
03:09Dave_is_sexymicahcowan: I dunno, it worked a few hours ago
03:09insomreiser is faster isn't it?
03:09jnckazol: what do you need ndiswrapper loaded for?
03:09Wriestand I will I get to my Applications and internet
03:09gravemindwhen I try to install amarok, synaptic complains about authentication. I know I can install it anyway, but how do I resolve this problem?
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03:09Dave_is_sexyinsom: yes. and less likely to loose your files. Reiser4 is actually finished now too. take a look
03:09kazoljnc: I have tried multiple methods for installing the wifi card.
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03:09kazoljnc: should I edit the file?
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03:10insomDave_is_sexy: thanks
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03:10jncgravemind: your package 'debian-keyring' or 'debian-archive-keyring' might be screwed up.    I don't know what the equivilent is for ubuntu, but on debian that's what happens for me
03:10Wriest<cables>and I will I get to my Applications and internet
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03:10jnckazol: yeah, it's not a big deal, you can't kill your system editing it
03:10Dave_is_sexyinsom: linux format magazine did an excellent article on filesystems in 2004. might be on their site
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03:11kazoljnc: I removed ndiswrapper. Should I try adding that modprobe cmd?
03:11insomI'm just concerned with installing these nvidia drivers :|
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03:11gravemindjnc: so to fix that, just do a reinstall of those packages? btw, this seems to only happen with certain packages that I try to install
03:11cablesWriest, you'll have to have shortcuts to things on your desktop
03:12jnckazol: 'fuse' is for some kind of user filesystem module, keep that. 'lp' is the hardware driver for your LPT378 printer port.  I would nuke the ndiswrapper line.   you won't need 'sudo modprobe ...' because anything in that file, line-by-line, is going to be loaded as a module.  the name of the brcm module minus the .ko should be fine
03:12jncgravemind: apt gets confused when certificates and gpg keys expire. heh
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03:12morphwvutubaevening folks, i have a mouse problem with my system76 laptop.  is there anyone there who's had mouse problems after upgrading to 7.04?
03:12cablesWriest, if you want more space, just have the panels autohide
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03:12Wriesthow do I make them auto hide
03:12PeloWriest,   rightclick, properties  explore the various options
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03:13kazoljnc: then how come the wifi card won't load?
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03:13jnckazol: one step at a time
03:13HearWaI have been trying to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10 for a few days but I keep getting a few "Failed to fetch" and "403 Forbidden errors". What can I do? Here's the errors: http://quickfry.com/pastebin/view.php?id=0
03:13jnckazol: what does your /etc/modules look like now?
03:14kazoljnc: same, but without ndiswrapper.
03:14jnckazol: okay, what's the name of that brcm driver that works for you?
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03:14FlannelHearWa: those are third party repositories.  They're ... apparently not ready for Edgy.  And, actually, you really shouldn't be using debian repositories anyway.
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03:15WriestYou guys are amazing thanx so much
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03:15HearWaFlannel: What can I do to fix this?
03:15n2diyHow do I request Dapper CDs from Shipit? Only Feisty CDs are offered?
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03:16kazoljnc: Do you mind if I restart? my system is kind of messed up and I just tried to install another driver that might potentially work.
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03:16leroi_how do i set up a monitor hooked to my laptop to a different resolution than my laptop screen
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03:16jnckazol: I could use some beer.  Go ahead, if you must, heh
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03:17HearWaFlannel: I would have to remove those sites from my sources list, no?
03:17Peloleroi_,  there might be somethinga bout it in here  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty  if not , check the forum
03:17jncleroi_: there's no option that I know of to do this
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03:17osxdudemy power led won't light up. Not that you care ;)
03:17catiddoes anyone know how to get textual system status info on the desktop as i see in a lot of screenshots?
03:17jncleroi_: it would probably be a vendor provided configuration utility
03:17Golfnitq: Ubuntu 7.04 trying to get Citrix to run correctly.  I have it installed but when I bring up the ICA manager, the fonts have spaces b/t them.
03:17n2diyjnc: Are you enchourageing the baby penquins to drink?
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03:17leroi_jnc: ok
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03:18GolfnitAs seen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376735&page=6  but the script used didn't help
03:18zerodaileroi_: you will have to change your xorg probably
03:18Golfnitanything else I Can do?
03:18jnccatid: I forgot the name of it...  there's a few programs that do it. 'roottail' is one, um...
03:18Pelocatid,  I think you need to remove the quiet bit from the grub option
03:18jncn2diy: baby penguins should drink iced tea
03:18jncbeer for me please.
03:18osxdudemy power led won't light up. Not that you care. ;)
03:18leroi_zerodax: what will i need to change my laptop is 1280x800 and i need 1680x1050 on the other monitor
03:18n2diyjnc: Roger, roger, beer here.
03:19Peloosxdude,  why should we ? it's a hardware problem
03:19catidPelo: =)  yeah i've done that already.  i hate that it adds it back whenever i build a kernel the ubuntu/debian way
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03:19catidjnc: Conky does it
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03:19jncconky sounds familiar
03:19sakobatonekoanybody know where to i can get some bootsplash
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03:19jnccatid for teh win.
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03:19zerodaileroi_: not sure but you will have to prob add another monitor entry for your other monitor and then switch
03:20osxdudePelo: heh. JK right? It only goes out when I'm in ubuntu.
03:20sakobatoneko?
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03:20Pelosakobatoneko, www.gnome-look.org or com
03:20leroi_zerodax: ok
03:20morphwvutubamy wireless usb mouse quit working after i upgraded to Feisty, but a wired usb mouse works & my touchpad still works.  any ideas?
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03:20sakobatonekoany other web sites
03:20Peloosxdude,  check forum
03:21sakobatonekothanks pelo
03:21osxdudeI made a thread.
03:21Pelosakobatoneko,  google
03:21Peloosxdude, I meant search the forum
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