/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/12/01/#kubuntu.txt

corinth	Pupeno: What does Mono's installer du?	00:00
BluesKaj	!hi \| Nurburgring	00:00
ubotu	Nurburgring: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	00:00
Pupeno	corinth: it installs Mono.	00:00
corinth	Pupeno: Lol, sorry. What is Mono?	00:00
Pupeno	corinth: a recent nice version, with dev tools.	00:00
Pupeno	corinth: an free implementation of .Net.	00:00
Pupeno	corinth: http://mono-project.org	00:01
mihai_	Does anyone know why i get the message BREAK (install) each time I try to install something in Adept?	00:04
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draik	mihai_: It means that a package you are trying to install conflicts with something that is installed.	00:05
vzduch	mihai_: didn't you have that earlier today already? o0	00:05
Kveldulf	hello	00:06
draik	sMonk: I would suggest that you google "install GRUB"	00:06
Pupeno	mihai_: if you are not afraid, I'd recommend you to open a terminal (konsole) and run aptitude.	00:06
draik	Hello Kveldulf	00:06
Nuked	can anyone help me convert a video_ts folder to an .ogm xvid 2000kbps with ac3 ?	00:06
draik	Nuked: Have you tried FFMPEG?	00:07
Nuked	draik.. that and transcode scare me more than freddy cruger and oprah winfrey	00:08
Kveldulf	could I maybe get some advice? having some problems with installing K locks up every time i get to formatting the disk.	00:08
vzduch	Nuked: transcode can be used w/ K3b	00:08
vzduch	Nuked: then there's k9copy and dvdrip	00:08
vzduch	pick one	00:08
Nuked	dvdrip produces a file that is most undesirable	00:08
vzduch	huh?	00:09
Nuked	Im having issues with dvdrip	00:09
draik	Freddy is friendly and Oprah is tax loophole-abusing, dolphin saving salmon eating hypocrite.	00:09
mihai_	vzduch : Yes, but i'm still having problems	00:09
Nuked	draik, see why im scared!	00:09
vzduch	who the hell is Freddy?	00:10
Nuked	the output causes the video to slow every couple of seconds	00:10
Nuked	vzduch, the evil version of edward scissorhands	00:10
Nuked	kind of	00:10
vzduch	ah, that Freddy..	00:10
Nuked	yep	00:11
vzduch	Krueger is his last name	00:11
Kveldulf	so maybe someone has seen that kind of thing and could advise me?	00:11
Nuked	they both pale in comparison next to these video conversion programs	00:11
Nuked	draik, do you think you could possibly provide a command that I could use or something?	00:12
draik	Since we're speaking of video, what can I use to record Uplink (http://www.uplink.co.uk)	00:12
draik	Nuked: Hmmm... DO IT! DO IT NOW!!!	00:12
vzduch	mihai_: as I said hours ago.. paste the output of apt-get to pastebin where the error occurs - everything from entering the command to the next prompt	00:12
draik	Nuked: That's a pretty direct command :p	00:13
Nuked	draik, get out of the chopper	00:13
Nuked	(who is your daddy and what does he do)	00:13
Kveldulf	no one?	00:13
mihai_	vzduch : I did	00:13
mihai_	under the name mihai	00:13
draik	Nuked: GET DOWN!	00:13
Nuked	RUBBER BABY BUGGY BUMPERD	00:14
Nuked	D	00:14
Nuked	dang	00:14
BluesKaj	nuked there's also an alternative that recommend that you can run in the CLI or GUI , called Tovid ...the app also has a support chat on this server , #tovid	00:14
draik	Bumper?	00:14
Kveldulf	this is a support channel?	00:14
draik	Kveldulf: Define "support"	00:14
vzduch	wth..	00:14
vzduch	!paste > vzduch	00:15
Nuked	d is next to the r and	00:15
Kveldulf	like some one might try to help	00:15
denn_on_livecd	hey guys...have a bit of a tough decision to make here cause new installation doesn't want to boot (fsck problem but fsck -r <dev> doesn't help), so i need some help)	00:15
_michael	Hello I'm having a problem using GCC 4.1.2 on Kubuntu 7.04. I think it has to do with the header file locations but I can't be certain. The gcc -v error output is at http://pastebin.com/m51219228 I'd appreciate any help or suggestions you can offer.	00:15
draik	Kveldulf: You mean help with something they might know and say nothing if they don't?	00:15
draik	!anyone \| Kveldulf	00:16
ubotu	Kveldulf: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	00:16
Kveldulf	so no one here has ever heard of k failing to install correctly?	00:16
vzduch	mihai_: the pastebin doesn't seem to have a search function.. you still have the link?	00:16
draik	Do you mean KDE?	00:16
Nuked	BluesKaj, that program does the opposite of what I need to have done	00:16
Kveldulf	didnt see my first post?	00:17
denn_on_livecd	history: installed kubuntu 7.10, with other partitions for gentoo; installed gentoo ok, but now kubuntu, at boot, says 3 partitions (related to gentoo) have probs,	00:17
Kveldulf	failure to format the hard disk	00:17
Kveldulf	kubuntu install disk	00:17
Kveldulf	not kde	00:17
denn_on_livecd	what to do?	00:18
wwZ\|Commi	michael: Seems that you're missing libstdc++	00:19
xevil	Kveldulf: give us some background... you have an OS on that drive at all?	00:19
denn_on_livecd	i'm afraid that if i use the old pre-gentoo mbr-backup the UUID's won't be valid anymore for gentoo partitions	00:19
mihai_	vzduch: No, i don't have it :(	00:20
Kveldulf	no	00:20
Kveldulf	brand new	00:20
Nuked	draik, some help you are (lol)	00:20
vzduch	mihai_: I just checked my log, you didn't give a link	00:20
Kveldulf	even tried disconnecting all the other drives	00:20
draik	Nuked: Huh?	00:20
Kveldulf	any other info that would be helpful?	00:21
Nuked	draik, started off with ffmpeg and got into Arnold Schwarzenegger	00:21
_michael	wwZ\|Commi: I have the /usr/include/c++/4.1.2 header files there are there any package names that I have to install because libstdc++6 is installed (not the dev though)	00:21
* draik has ADD among other things		00:21
wwZ\|Commi	I think you have to install the dev-Package too	00:22
denn_on_livecd	how do i fix this fsck problem so kubuntu will boot if 'fsck -r..." doesn't work?	00:22
Nuked	draik, it would seem that im destined to stay solutionless	00:22
wwZ\|Commi	michael: should be something like libstdc++6-dev	00:23
draik	Nuked: in Konversation (or any other CLI terminal) "sudo apt-get install ffmpeg && ffmpeg --help"	00:23
vzduch	mihai_: again.. run the command that results in the 'break' message, then paste all of its output to pastebin and give us the link to the resulting webpage	00:24
Nuked	draik, ffmpeg: missing argument for option '--help'	00:25
Nuked	what were the odds of that?	00:25
_michael	wwZ\|Commi: When installing libstdc++6-dev and it says it will install cpp, g++, and gcc version 3.4 will this affect my current gcc 4.1.2?	00:25
draik	Nuked: man ffmpeg	00:25
wwZ\|Commi	Uhm...	00:25
_michael	wwZ\|Commi: I don't think it should it doesn't say it will remove gcc-4.1.2	00:26
wwZ\|Commi	As far as I know it should't do so	00:26
wwZ\|Commi	shouldn't	00:26
xevil	Kveldulf: you're sure the install disk has no errors?	00:26
_michael	wwZ\|Commi: ok good	00:26
wwZ\|Commi	On my system theres gcc 3.4, 3.3, 4.1 and 4.2 installed	00:27
Kveldulf	not sure, Its downloaded?	00:27
Kveldulf	how to be sure?	00:27
wwZ\|Commi	And as default it uses 4.1	00:27
_michael	wwZ\|Commi: Do you know how to get extra directories searched for header files? Is there an environment variable?	00:27
wwZ\|Commi	I just know the parameter for gcc	00:28
xevil	Kveldulf: you might also try MEMTEST on the install disk to see if you might have a memory problem	00:28
mihai_	vzduch : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46378/	00:29
wwZ\|Commi	But I don't know, how the environment variable is named	00:29
Kveldulf	ill try that now back in a few.	00:29
Kveldulf	afk	00:29
level1	hi, I'm trying to make a bootable ubuntu flash drive. It boots and is able to mount file systems, but it then it drops into some sort of (initramfs) prompt for no reason... there are no error codes to indicate why...	00:30
vzduch	mihai_: thanks.. as a 2nd thing, a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list would be helpful :)	00:31
mihai_	vzduch : ok, just a minute	00:31
_michael	wwZ\|Commi: It didn't work 3.4 gives me this error http://pastebin.com/m34741599	00:32
mihai_	vzduch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46380/	00:32
wwZ\|Commi	hmmm	00:32
wwZ\|Commi	How do you compile it? Do you type the whole thing in or are you running it within an editor or something?	00:33
xevil	Kveldulf: you can check your CD with one of these utilities... http://www.kvipu.com/CDCheck/	00:34
_michael	wwZ\|Commi: I am in an embedded konsole in kdevelop I type in: "gcc ./"Hello World.cpp" (with -v ) for verbose sometimes but nothing special	00:35
draik	Other than gtk-recordmydesktop, krecordmydesktop and screenkast, what can I use to actually record my desktop? This is what I don't want... http://www.draikunderlord.com/uplink.ogg	00:36
vzduch	mihai_: comment line 1 out (put a # before it), and uncomment (remove # before the resp. line) lines 6, 8, 13, 15, 63, 65, 67, 69, 71, 73, and if you like, 52 and 59	00:36
vzduch	mihai_: to do that, open /etc/apt/sources.list as root ('sudo') w/ a text editor	00:36
vzduch	or kdesudo, respectively, if you're going to use a graphical text editor like e.g. KWrite	00:37
vzduch	use 'Run Command' in the menu for that	00:37
vzduch	when you're done, run 'sudo apt-get update', then try again	00:38
wwZ\|Commi	michael: What includes are you using? It can also be that you have to give used libraries by hand. I remember a programm I wrote using GMP, I had to use "-l gmp" so gcc realized it had to include the GMP-Libs	00:38
_michael	wwZ\|Commi: I have "#inlcude <iostream>" as the first line of the file	00:40
_michael	*"#include <iostream>"	00:40
mihai_	vzduch : works now, indeed	00:40
mihai_	thanks!	00:40
wwZ\|Commi	hm	00:40
vzduch	mihai_: you're welcome :)	00:41
_michael	wwZ\|Commi: Interesting though I just successfully compiled a basic C program and it worked	00:43
Nurburgring	how do I get write access in Dolphin to /root/boot/grub so I can copy in the "chain0" file for being able to boot OSX86	00:43
wwZ\|Commi	Mhm...	00:44
wwZ\|Commi	I'm trying to figure out what goes wrong :D	00:44
wwZ\|Commi	I think it's a normal "Hello World"-programm?	00:44
HeppyCat	good evening channel	00:44
_michael	wwZ\|Commi: Well these are the source lines http://pastebin.com/m5a408a39 I think everything is ok though	00:46
wwZ\|Commi	michael: I just tried that programm in my own machine, for me it works fine using "g++"	00:47
wwZ\|Commi	instead of "gcc"	00:47
wwZ\|Commi	I think thats the solution, you have to use g++, not gcc	00:47
wwZ\|Commi	When trying gcc it gives me the same error as you had	00:48
HeppyCat	any ideas how i can burn a .dmg (mac) cd image?	00:48
BluesKaj	Nurburgring, alt+F2 kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst	00:50
_michael	wwZ\|Commi: I can't thank you enough :-) It works now I'm gonna just change my bash alias around to g++ and I'll be running normally. Thanks Again :-)	00:50
wwZ\|Commi	michael: no problem :)	00:50
Kveldulf	xevil: where is that option to check the memory?	00:50
xevil	Kveldulf: it's on the install disk	00:51
xevil	Kveldulf: you can check your CD with one of these utilities... http://www.kvipu.com/CDCheck/	00:51
maverick_	so, is it time now to try kde4 on gutsy	00:52
maverick_	?	00:52
squarebottle	Hey, can anybody recommend a KDE application that I can use to syncronize two folders?	00:52
maverick_	i had 2 unsuccessful trials to install it on feisty...	00:52
Kveldulf	xevil: i did try check cd on the install disk and it locked up about 2/3 done so maybe its a bad disk but bad mem seems a real possibility too	00:53
xevil	Kveldulf: probably a bad disk... can you burn the ISO image again?	00:53
Kveldulf	xevil: but I did not find an option to check the mem	00:54
corinth	squarebottle: Beep me when you get an answer, I'd like to know, too.	00:54
Nurburgring	blueskaj: l did that and it brought up menu.lst in Kate... i already added "title "OSX86" rootnovereify bla bla bla" but what about putting the chain0 filr in the directory /root/boot/grub?	00:54
HeppyCat	squarebottle: rsync?	00:54
Nurburgring	thanks 4 reply	00:54
Kveldulf	xevil: not tonight, going to need to buy some more dvds	00:55
xevil	Kveldulf: the program name is memtest... I think an option comes up to run it when the CD first boots	00:55
xevil	Kveldulf: a bad disk or a memory problem is all I can think of that would cause your troubles	00:56
squarebottle	HeppyCat: rsync is a protocol, not a frontend.	00:56
squarebottle	HeppyCat: Also, rsync requires a remote server to have rsync installed, so it's not appropriate for portable media devices really.	00:57
Kveldulf	xevil: Ill look again, but if its the cd there is nothing I can do tonight. Thanks for helping. Ill maybe check back tomorrow.	00:57
xevil	Kveldulf: n/p later dude	00:57
wordupson	halp	00:57
wordupson	i need to figure out what model my wifi usb adapter is	00:57
wordupson	and what driver ubuntu is using for it	00:57
BluesKaj	Nurburgring, i gotta confess that I'm not familiar with root/root/files	00:57
wordupson	how can i figure that out?	00:57
Kveldulf	xevil: later	00:58
BluesKaj	err rot/boot	00:59
xevil	lsusb -v	01:00
BluesKaj	<---getting tired , can't read or type	01:00
Nurburgring	BluesKaj: k, thanks for tryin, i think I just need to have root privlage to copy the chain0 file there but kubuntu is only my second distro ever and Im not sure how to get admin root access. I wish there were a "browse as root" button	01:00
Anon6702	Bjr je galère avec Kubuntu 7.10 et l'afficahe 3D	01:01
BluesKaj	!root	01:03
ubotu	Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	01:03
xevil	Nurburgring: have you tried kdesu konqueror?	01:03
Nurburgring	xevil: is that a joke?? :)	01:04
user1	hello	01:05
xevil	Nurburgring: you said you wanted to browse as root... :)	01:06
Nurburgring	fk :)	01:07
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Impiety	i've done literally everything i could find to do to try to get mp3s to play with amarok, but for some reason it won't work	01:08
Impiety	would anyone know why?	01:08
ZaNGaMaN	i think i will instal kubuntu	01:08
BluesKaj	Impiety, install libxine1-ffmpeg	01:09
Impiety	i have	01:09
Impiety	it still isn't working	01:09
Impiety	i've tried removing xine entirely	01:09
Impiety	and reinstalling it	01:09
BluesKaj	have you setup and unmuted alsamixer	01:09
Impiety	uh yeah, wmas work	01:10
Impiety	just not mp3	01:10
Impiety	amarok says it can't play it and asks if i want to let it install whatever it needs	01:10
Impiety	however, what it needs is installed	01:10
BluesKaj	then go for it	01:10
Impiety	which confuses	01:10
Impiety	me	01:10
Impiety	I used juk and with the gstreamer engine it worked	01:10
Impiety	but not with the xine engine	01:11
tuxthepenguin533	will kde4 make its way into kubuntu gusty	01:11
ubuntu	Hi, I successfully install ubuntu to a livecd. apt-cache search firefox returns results but apt-cache search vlc or apt-cache search yakuake don't... are there extra repos I have to add?	01:13
Impiety	i'm just going ot remove all of the xine and amarok stuff	01:14
Impiety	and see what happens	01:14
xevil	Impiety: do you have libxine1 installed?	01:15
Impiety	yes	01:16
Impiety	that's why all of this is so confusing	01:16
Impiety	everything that it needs to work is installed	01:16
Impiety	but it's still giving me an error message	01:16
Impiety	so i'm just going to try it all again	01:16
Radi01	libxine1_ffmpeg	01:16
Radi01	-	01:17
Impiety	yeah	01:17
ZaNGaMaN	for a newbie wich is better	01:17
ZaNGaMaN	kubuntu or mandriva?	01:18
Radi01	^ is the mp3 driver also libvisual needs installed	01:18
Impiety	libvisual	01:18
Impiety	hrm	01:18
Impiety	1 sec	01:18
Radi01	let me get the right one brb	01:18
Impiety	yeah	01:19
Impiety	libvisual was installed	01:19
eean	NetworkManager has gone totally nuts on me	01:19
eean	right now its connecting and unconnecting about twice a second or something	01:20
Nurburgring2	xevil: in konqueror i go to /root and therfe are no items... same with /root	01:20
Radi01	0.4-0	01:20
eean	how do you get a 'clean slate' with NetworkManager?	01:20
Nurburgring2	same with /root/boot/grub of coarse	01:20
Impiety	yeah, it's that version	01:20
Radi01	when all else fails re-boot to see if the scripts set..ya never know.	01:21
Impiety	good idea	01:21
Radi01	hey	01:21
Radi01	wait	01:21
Radi01	sudo touch /forcefsck	01:21
Radi01	do that to make a good clean boot	01:21
Impiety	cool	01:22
Impiety	i'll brb	01:22
Radi01	k	01:22
Impiety	thanks for the help man	01:22
Radi01	np	01:22
markc	anyone available to help a new user	01:24
xevil	just ask your question... maybe someone can help	01:25
Nurburgring2	xevil: thanks i got it straitend out	01:26
Xacarith	Has any one in here used openrpg?	01:26
xevil	Nurburgring2: hidden files?	01:26
Nurburgring2	nope, konqueror somehow wasn't pointed correctly to my root	01:27
markc	I instatlled Kubuntu on my Dell Opti gx150. intel 815 graphics are showing vertical lines about every 3cm on screen. any sugguestions??	01:27
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Impiety	yeah	01:27
Impiety	that didn't work	01:27
Radi01	work	01:27
Radi01	oh boy	01:27
Nurburgring2	xevil, any ways, got the chain0 file there now and show have succesful tri boot (xp,osx,Kubuntu)	01:28
Radi01	It does not play or what does it not do	01:28
Impiety	it's weird	01:28
xevil	Impiety: do you have libxine1-plugins installed?	01:28
Impiety	well, i did	01:28
Impiety	and it made no difference	01:28
Radi01	try installing those libs again since you have a clean boot	01:29
markc	I instatlled Kubuntu on my Dell Opti gx150. intel 815 graphics are showing vertical lines about every 3cm on screen. any sugguestions??	01:34
Impiety	umm	01:36
Impiety	what driver did xorg use	01:36
Impiety	well, what driver is it using	01:36
Radi01	If no one here can help try ubuntu markc.	01:36
Impiety	check int /etc/X11/xorg.conf	01:36
markc	hold on	01:36
Radi01	Still nothing on amarok?	01:37
Impiety	nah	01:37
Impiety	i'm just completely removing all of the xine libs	01:37
markc	Intel Corporation 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]	01:38
Radi01	ok	01:38
Impiety	and amarok	01:38
Impiety	and reinstalling them	01:38
Impiety	umm	01:38
Impiety	what driver did it use though	01:38
Radi01	cool just use the libs necessary for amarok 1rst..c what happens	01:38
markc	intel	01:38
Impiety	hrm	01:38
Impiety	yeah, that's what i'm going to try	01:38
Impiety	hrm	01:38
Impiety	it says intel next to driver	01:38
Radi01	ill get the exact ones 4 ya /stand by	01:39
Impiety	I appreciate it	01:39
Impiety	hrm	01:39
markc	yes it does. under the device section	01:39
Impiety	i've never tried to install with integrated stuff	01:39
Impiety	my other crappy comptuer has an integrated graphics thingy	01:40
Impiety	and it's sis	01:40
Impiety	and it didnt' work	01:40
markc	is there a intel 815 driver?	01:40
markc	or just the generic intel	01:40
Impiety	how old is that laptop?	01:41
markc	not a laptop	01:41
markc	desktop	01:41
Impiety	oh wait	01:41
Impiety	duh	01:41
Impiety	you never said it was	01:41
Impiety	haha	01:41
Impiety	well, either way	01:41
markc	its cool	01:41
Impiety	how old is it	01:41
markc	a few years	01:42
Impiety	intel has some drivers on their site	01:42
markc	what distro	01:42
Impiety	well	01:42
markc	deb or RPM?	01:42
Evil_	not sure if I should ask this here or ##c, but, where can I get the C include files (stdio etc etc) it says I don't have them	01:42
Impiety	just scroll down, it explains the stuff to you	01:43
Impiety	tell me if that works	01:43
Impiety	there's quite a few forums talking about that chipset	01:43
Impiety	and if all else fails, you can always try setting the driver to vesa	01:43
Impiety	and see if that works	01:43
Impiety	but that wouldn't support opengl	01:44
tom_	did u try i810	01:44
Radi01	libxine1-ffmpeg and libxine1 those are the (only) ones need for music for amarok. /for visuals libvisual-0.4-0	01:44
Impiety	sweet thanks man	01:44
Radi01	k	01:44
Impiety	i'm goign to reinstall those right now	01:44
Impiety	if this doesn't work, i'm just going to give up and not use amarok	01:45
Radi01	ok	01:45
Impiety	the gstreamer engine works in juk	01:45
Impiety	so i guess i could just use that	01:45
Radi01	it should work..no reason why it shouldnt	01:45
Impiety	i know, it's weird, it was working yesterday	01:45
Impiety	and then I got rid of a bunch of gnome crap	01:45
Radi01	interesting	01:45
Impiety	and all of a sudden it didn't work	01:45
Radi01	ah..somthing came up missing then	01:46
Radi01	re-install amarok 2 maybe	01:46
Impiety	i'm doing that	01:46
Radi01	1rst	01:46
Impiety	right now	01:46
Radi01	im with ya buddy hope it works	01:46
Impiety	hopefully with fresh config files things will work	01:47
gONIK	Hi everyone. I just connected a USB device to my computer, and I have a CD with the driver for the device. Now how can I install that driver?	01:47
Impiety	umm	01:47
Impiety	is the driver on your computer	01:47
Impiety	and where modules go?	01:47
gONIK	no on the CD-ROM	01:47
gONIK	that came with my device	01:48
Impiety	umm	01:48
Impiety	it has linux drivers on it?	01:48
gONIK	yes	01:48
Impiety	what's the device	01:48
gONIK	Wireless adapter	01:48
Impiety	oh	01:48
Impiety	umm	01:48
tom_	what's the extension on the drivers	01:48
Impiety	is there a .deb package?	01:48
gONIK	tar.gz I think	01:48
zibrah3ed	find the.inf file for it, then ndiswrapper -i .inf	01:49
tom_	do u know how to extract it	01:49
gONIK	No, I am a total newb	01:49
tom_	tar -xf filename.tar.gz	01:49
Impiety	tar xzvf blah.tar.gz	01:49
Impiety	blah = what it's called	01:49
tom_	xzvf is probably better	01:49
gONIK	What is the difference between -xf and xzvf?	01:50
Impiety	hrm	01:50
Impiety	dunno	01:50
Impiety	i just use xzvf	01:50
tom_	x is extract f is force	01:50
Impiety	z = gz	01:50
zibrah3ed	v = verbose	01:50
tom_	v is verbose i believe	01:50
Impiety	yeah	01:50
gONIK	That is very helpful	01:51
gONIK	Thanks	01:51
Impiety	amarok is a no go	01:51
Impiety	haha	01:51
Impiety	this is fantastic	01:51
Radi01	bummer	01:51
Impiety	it makes no sense	01:51
Radi01	it dont	01:51
tom_	what's wrong with it?	01:51
Impiety	i twont play mp3s	01:51
Impiety	i installed everything necessary for it to do so	01:51
Impiety	and it sitll won't	01:51
Impiety	it's being difficult	01:51
tom_	u have liblame?	01:52
tom_	idk if thats the exact name	01:52
Impiety	hrm	01:52
Impiety	i do	01:52
Radi01	somthing got borked	01:52
Radi01	what about doing it from terminal 2 c if there are errors	01:53
vzduch	tom_: not entirely right.. x = extract, z = gzip compression, v = verbose, f = file (takes filename as argument)	01:53
gONIK	thanks	01:53
gONIK	ok so after I extracted it	01:54
tom_	vzduch: yeah, sorry about that	01:54
gONIK	now what	01:54
Impiety	go to the directory it made	01:54
tom_	wat files did it extract	01:54
Impiety	is there something that says "configure" in that dir	01:54
gONIK	Nope	01:55
gONIK	there are two .gz	01:55
gONIK	and the rest are shell scripts	01:56
gONIK	and plain text files	01:56
tom_	what are the names of the scripts	01:56
vzduch	wth are you doing anyway?	01:56
gONIK	wlan0up	01:56
gONIK	Ok	01:56
gONIK	let me start from the beginning	01:56
gONIK	I bought a wireless adapter	01:56
gONIK	Now I connected it to my computer	01:57
gONIK	I have a CD for it	01:57
Impiety	what kidn of wireless adapter	01:57
gONIK	With all the drivers, for Windows, Linux, Mac and so on	01:57
gONIK	Alfa 500mw	01:57
vzduch	if you're running, or planning to run, Linux, look at hardware compatibility lists beforehand	01:57
gONIK	I am trying to install it, so that the operating system sees it	01:57
tom_	he said there are linux drivers on a cd	01:58
tom_	try ./wlan0up	01:58
vzduch	I'd prefer to see a directory listing of the .tar.gz file's content	01:58
vzduch	instead of wild guessing :>	01:59
tom_	yeah i guess that's the smart idea	01:59
tom_	and can u tell us the name of the device	01:59
tom_	Impiety: are u still there?	02:00
vzduch	anyway, it's late, so I'll try to get a bit of sleep :)	02:02
vzduch	good night folks :)	02:02
Radi01	have a good one V	02:04
gONIK	there is an autorun.inf file on the cd	02:06
gONIK	will it help me somehow?	02:06
Impiety	tom_: yeah, sorry, i had to go do something really quickly	02:06
Impiety	libmad0 is installed	02:06
tom_	impiety: what engine are you using	02:07
Impiety	xine	02:07
Impiety	that's the only engine that I seemlingly can install for amarok	02:07
tom_	goink: i think that's mostly for windows computers that automatically load the cd	02:07
gONIK	yea I figured	02:07
gONIK	when I type lsusb it sees my device	02:08
tom_	what is the name of the device	02:08
gONIK	Alfa 500mw	02:08
Impiety	weird	02:08
Impiety	noatun plays mp3s	02:08
tom_	and amarok still doesn't?	02:09
Radi01	weird	02:09
tom_	goink: http://blog.data-alliance.us/index.php?/archives/34-Alfa-500mW-USB-on-Fedora-7-Linux-Chipset-RealTek-8185.html	02:09
tom_	thats a page about installing it in fedora	02:09
tom_	it mentions install wlassistant	02:10
mihai_	I cannot run Firefox in Kunbutu after installing the browser. After it starts loading, the window closes automatically ?	02:10
tom_	and adding the line alias wlan0 rtl8187 to /etc/modprobe.conf	02:11
tom_	mihai_: try running it from the terminal to see the error message	02:11
mihai_	tom_ : /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: 424: /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: not found	02:11
fulat2k	hi folks, i'm getting dpkg errors when doing a dist-upgrade which includes kde4: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46381/	02:12
fulat2k	any help on how i can fix it?	02:12
fulat2k	running sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l \| egrep '(KDE 4\|KDE PIM 4\|-kde4)' \|cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace doesn't work...	02:12
gONIK	when I try to install wlassistant	02:13
tom_	mihai: how did u install it	02:13
gONIK	It says "couldn't find wlassistant"	02:13
tom_	goink: did you check you network settings	02:14
=== mem is now known as mem2
tom_	in system setting	02:15
tom_	settings*	02:15
mem2	Passing startup args to already-running Azureus java process listening on [127.0.0.1: 6880]	02:15
mem2	help plz	02:15
mem2	:P	02:15
mihai_	tom_ : First i tried installing it unsuccessfully by downloading the archieve and I think that messed it up.. The second time i installed it using Adept	02:15
mem2	checked all forum threads and nothing	02:15
mem2	netstat -tp doenst show az	02:15
mem2	java isnt running	02:15
mem2	fresh install	02:15
tom_	mihai_: try sudo apt-get remove firefox	02:15
tom_	then install	02:16
Radi01	tom	02:17
tom_	yes	02:17
Radi01	where do removed packages go to	02:17
mem2	hello	02:18
mem2	any1 have / know of this azurues issue	02:18
tom_	idk	02:18
mem2	restarted lo as 1 of the ubuntu threads suggested	02:18
Radi01	I think there is a trash file/I just havent found it.	02:18
tom_	radi01: when u say remove do you mean for apt-get or rm	02:19
Radi01	both	02:19
tom_	im basically positive rm is permanent	02:19
mem2	meh	02:19
Radi01	ok	02:19
mem2	guess no help on azurues	02:19
tom_	mem2: could you use another client	02:20
mem2	tom_: thats the kind of solution I expect from morons tom	02:20
mem2	I could use gentoo to	02:20
mem2	distro that works outright with mp3s etc	02:21
Radi01	whats with the name calling.	02:21
dixon2	hola a todos	02:21
mem2	kubuntu bugfix for azureus issue: dont use it	02:22
mem2	surely not	02:22
tom_	right but i do not know the solution to your problem	02:23
mihai_	tom_ : Still doesn't work after removing it and reinstalling	02:23
tom_	if you need to use it then using a different client would be the quickest solution	02:23
dixon2	not you espanit	02:23
mem2	tom_ thanks for pointing out the obvious	02:24
mem2	I appreciate you trying to help	02:24
mem2	but if u dont know u dont know	02:24
tom_	mihai: you said you installed it from source first correct	02:24
mihai_	tom_ : It appears as the program is loading and then it simply doesn't start and closes	02:24
dixon2	no hay perosnas que hablen en español	02:24
mihai_	tom_ : Yes, i tried but it failed because I assume I did something wrong	02:24
tom_	mihai: do you still have the archive	02:25
dixon2	not	02:25
mihai_	tom_ : No	02:26
tom_	mihai: i believe theres a way to remove all the files it made with the source	02:27
mihai_	however, i see there still is a folder called "firefox" in /etc/	02:27
tom_	mihai: after the source installation failed did you do make uninstall(possibly called something else)	02:28
mihai_	tom_ : No	02:28
mihai_	I just left it like that	02:28
tom_	mihai: did it install with a makefile or a script	02:29
mihai_	i think a makefilef	02:29
tom_	try downloading and extracting the source again and configure it	02:30
tom_	then look at the contents of the makefile and there should be a command like uninstall	02:30
tom_	then just do sudo make uninstall	02:30
mihai_	ok	02:33
tom_	mihai: it doesn't use a makefile but i'll look around for a way to uninstall the source	02:36
mihai_	good	02:37
mihai_	tom_ : How do I remove a folder with sudo?]	02:37
tom_	does it have contents	02:37
mihai_	i see some firefox files that are not supposed there	02:37
mihai_	i see some firefox files that are not supposed to bethere	02:37
tom_	rm -r folder	02:38
tom_	with sudo	02:38
corinth	I want to download an ISO from opensuse. Would it be faster to use the standard download, or to use bittorrent?	02:38
tom_	corinth: how big is the file	02:39
corinth	tom: 4.1 GB	02:39
mihai_	tom_ : I keep getting all these messages : rm: cannot remove `/etc/firefox//profile/chrome/userContent-example.css': Permission denied	02:39
tom_	corinth: i would think bittorrent would be faster if you have it set up properly	02:40
tom_	mihai: did u use sudo	02:40
mihai_	tom_ : I typed in rm -r /etc/firefox	02:41
tom_	put sudo in front of it	02:41
tom_	sudo rm -r /etc/firefox	02:41
corinth	tom_: What do I need to make sure to do to ensure it is set up properly?	02:41
tom_	corinth: your ports are forwarded	02:41
corinth	Through my router?	02:42
tom_	and a firewall should not be blocking it	02:42
tom_	yes	02:42
corinth	Thanks.	02:42
tom_	you should be able to test it with the client	02:42
mihai_	mihai@kubuntu:/etc/firefox$ sudo rm -r firefox/ sudo ....... cannot get working directory ....... rm: cannot remove `firefox/': No such file or directory	02:42
tom_	and normally there are indicators at the bottom	02:42
spar	Hello	02:42
spar	I am loco lol	02:43
tom_	mihai: cd .. then type the command	02:43
spar	is there a room for video capture?	02:43
tom_	or u could just type sudo rm -r /etc/firefox when your not in the folder	02:43
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danny500	XD	02:44
danny500	so ya, is there a room for video capture?	02:44
danny500	or does anyone here know about recording tv onto the computer?	02:45
tom_	danny500: do you have a tv tuner card for you computer	02:45
danny500	yes	02:45
danny500	When I try to use it it tells me I need an extender	02:45
tom_	what card is it	02:46
danny500	no clue	02:46
danny500	um I'll check	02:46
tom_	mihai: the firefox website says to remove the folder /usr/lib/firefox-<version>	02:47
mihai_	tom_: found it, what's the command again?	02:49
tom_	the command to remove a folder and its contents?	02:49
mihai_	ok	02:50
mihai_	i've done it	02:50
tom_	wat did u remove exactly	02:50
mihai_	the folder /usr/lib/firefox	02:50
tom_	try to run firefox	02:51
tom_	it should say its not found	02:51
tom_	or unknown command*	02:51
tom_	command not found**	02:51
mihai_	tom_ : The program 'firefox' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:sudo apt-get install firefox	02:51
mihai_	thats correct	02:51
tom_	yea	02:52
tom_	type what it says	02:52
tom_	'sudo apt-get install firefox	02:52
danny500	I found what it is	02:52
tom_	'	02:52
danny500	Asus/ViXS Combo-210E NTSC/ATSC TV Tuner	02:52
tom_	what is it	02:52
tom_	danny500: you want to be able to record tv with it correct?	02:53
danny500	yes	02:53
mem2	tom_: my error was caused by having the gcj version of azurues installed	02:54
danny500	I have Windows Vista (Ya I know BOOOOOO!!!!!) I'm on here because I'm setting up an Ubuntu 7.10 computer for my uncle because I'm just cool like that. >_>	02:54
tom_	danny500: i don't know then idk much about vista	02:55
mihai_	tom_: Now i'm still getting the same message The program 'firefox' is currently not installed even after installing it	02:55
danny500	has nothing to do with Vista I can figure that out myself I just need to know what the unit is called	02:55
tom_	mihai: try installing it with adept	02:56
danny500	I know there is another unit that connects to the tv tuner and you plug your tv into that I just don't know what it's called	02:56
tom_	danny500: do you want to hook up the cable or something like svideo or rca	02:56
danny500	rca	02:57
tom_	what inputs does the card have	02:57
danny500	cable-ntsc- cable atsc Audio/Visual RCA in	02:58
tom_	danny500: i'm not sure i understand your problem u are unable to phisically hook up your tv to the card?	03:00
danny500	ya I know thats gay	03:00
danny500	wait nvm, I figured it out	03:00
tom_	does the tv have any outputs	03:00
danny500	this is what I needed	03:00
danny500	http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=547&sec=1	03:00
mihai_	tom_: still doesnt work	03:01
Evil_	when I try to sudo apt-get install g++, it wants me to put in the kubuntu disk, anyway to not have to? (sorta lost it lol)	03:01
tom_	danny500: you know that just lets you access the media center from your tv	03:01
mihai_	tom_: there was still a firefox directory in /opt/ with a bunch of files	03:02
mihai_	even after uninstalling the program	03:02
tom_	mihai: typing firefox in the terminal still says its not installed	03:02
mihai_	yesd	03:02
mihai_	and i can't install/remove it either from terminal	03:03
mihai_	E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)	03:03
tom_	thats b.c u have adept open	03:03
mihai_	E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?	03:03
mihai_	oh	03:03
tom_	u need to close adept before using it	03:03
mihai_	lol	03:03
flaccid	!adeptfix	03:04
ubotu	If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »	03:04
mihai_	mihai_ : still nothing	03:07
tom_	does sudo apt-get install firefox return an error	03:07
mihai_	no	03:07
tom_	it says its installing it each time you type it	03:08
mihai_	every time yes	03:08
tom_	apt-get remove says its not installed?	03:09
tom_	also try sudo apt-get purge firefox	03:10
mihai_	ok	03:11
mihai_	what does that do?	03:11
mihai_	remove it?	03:11
tom_	purge removes basically every trace	03:11
mihai_	i did	03:12
mihai_	let me reinstall now	03:12
mihai_	The program 'firefox' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:	03:12
mihai_	sudo apt-get install firefox	03:12
mihai_	even after purge and installing again	03:12
mihai_	maybe i should restart	03:12
tom_	it may help but i dont see how it would	03:13
Impiety	Radi01: hey, I figured something else about amarok	03:14
Impiety	it works if i use root	03:15
Impiety	like mp3s play only if i use sudo amarok	03:15
Impiety	otherwise it doesn't	03:15
mihai_	I might as well switch back to Ubuntu	03:16
mihai_	from Kubuntu	03:16
mihai_	i'm having a bunch of problems with it	03:16
tom_	how long have you had kubuntu for	03:17
mihai_	~15 hours	03:17
Radi01	what did U find ut.	03:20
Impiety	mp3s play as root	03:20
tom_	he can play mp3s when hes root	03:20
Impiety	in amarok	03:20
Impiety	so, I dunno what else to do	03:20
Radi01	no errors	03:20
Radi01	?	03:20
Impiety	nope	03:20
Impiety	no errors at all	03:21
Impiety	works perfectly	03:21
Radi01	2 weird	03:21
Impiety	yeah	03:21
Impiety	there's gotta be a permissions problem somewhere	03:21
Impiety	but i have no idea where to look	03:21
Impiety	i'm looking in libs	03:21
Impiety	err /usr/lib	03:21
Impiety	but	03:21
tom_	see what groups your in	03:21
Impiety	yeah	03:21
Impiety	hrm	03:21
Impiety	good idea	03:21
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Impiety	umm	03:28
Impiety	my groups are fine	03:28
Impiety	this is frickin' weird	03:28
Radi01	sudo apt-get uninstall ./Bill Gates.	03:28
Radi01	j/k	03:29
tom_	yea lol	03:29
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cje	hi, I am using Kubuntu Gutsy and I would like to set the default view for tree view, as opposed to icon view.	03:32
cje	How do I do this	03:32
Viper	Damn... is it strange that the #ubuntu channel is so much more talkative then this one?	03:32
theverant	is there a way to get multiple file selection in dolphin preview mode to select files a, ..., z in a filname based line, instead of a -> z as a physical line, depending on how the view window is opened? IE the way that Windows Explorer allows multiple selections to happen from icon or preview view modes?	03:36
Radi01	Most that use ubuntu downloaded it first not knowing about kubuntu.	03:36
theverant	it's making me crazy that it selects all the files straight down, instead of all the files between two given files	03:36
theverant	seems like there should be a hot key to enable that functionality... it's making me crazy	03:40
Impiety	oooooooohhhh	03:40
Impiety	Radi01: I figured it out	03:42
Impiety	!!!!	03:42
Radi01	what was it	03:42
Impiety	well	03:42
Impiety	I don't really know	03:42
Radi01	lol	03:42
Impiety	but instead of using amarok	03:42
Impiety	i found this thingy	03:42
Impiety	in /usr/bin	03:42
Impiety	it said kubuntu-media-amarok	03:42
Impiety	it's an executable	03:42
Impiety	so, I tried it	03:42
Radi01	ah	03:42
Impiety	and it worked	03:42
Impiety	so umm	03:43
Radi01	can U axcess the icon now	03:43
Impiety	well	03:43
Impiety	I changed it	03:43
Impiety	the way it was in the menu	03:43
Impiety	so instead of amarok, i used the kubuntu-media-amarok	03:43
Impiety	and it works	03:43
Radi01	nice..did U load the libvisuals too	03:43
Impiety	yeah	03:43
Radi01	nice job it should work good	03:44
Impiety	I just don't understand why that worked and the other thing didn't	03:44
Radi01	maybe deleting xine it saved the exe for amarok	03:44
Impiety	it's possible	03:44
Impiety	ohh	03:45
Impiety	haha	03:45
Impiety	nevermind,	03:45
Impiety	i'm retarded that had nothing ot do with it	03:45
Radi01	c'mon tell me	03:45
Radi01	lol	03:45
Impiety	i updated something	03:45
Impiety	wiht synaptic, i added a couple more repositories	03:45
Radi01	ah ha	03:45
Impiety	and it upgraded libxine	03:45
Impiety	so it was libxine being dumb	03:46
Radi01	I did mine and that didnt happen to me	03:46
Impiety	yeah	03:46
Radi01	sudo apt-get update ?	03:46
Impiety	I must have messed up something	03:47
Impiety	somehow	03:47
theverant	anyone know of a good eBay watcher for KDE kinda like JBidwatcher?	03:47
Impiety	well, i used synaptic	03:47
Radi01	ah	03:47
Impiety	i'm lazy	03:47
mihai_	i judst installed Chimera on Kubuntu but don't know how to run it ?	03:47
Radi01	next time use sudo	03:47
Impiety	either way	03:47
mihai_	does any one know the command to run it?	03:47
Impiety	well, Radi01thanks for all of the help, i'm relieved now	03:47
Radi01	any time buddy anytime	03:48
Radi01	try ubuntu mihai..most of the tech here are sleeping	03:49
Viper	I've never heard of Chimera...	03:49
mihai_	ok	03:49
Viper	Did you install it via apt-get?	03:50
mihai_	yes	03:50
mihai_	it's a web browser	03:50
flaccid	do you have a comand chimera	03:50
mihai_	since i can't get firefox to work and Konqueror is horrible	03:50
mihai_	i tried it	03:50
flaccid	where did you d/l it from	03:50
Viper	how bout find / -name "chimera"	03:51
Viper	that'll look for any file named chimera on your system...	03:51
flaccid	or wheris chimera	03:51
flaccid	or which chimera	03:51
flaccid	but they are unlikely to work	03:51
flaccid	whereis	03:51
flaccid	isn't chimera like pretty old	03:52
Radi01	but mihai cant get firefox to work..no one knows how.	03:53
flaccid	whats the problem with firefox	03:53
mihai_	well	03:53
mihai_	it won't simply not load	03:53
flaccid	goto konsole	03:53
mihai_	i tried installing and reinstalling all over again	03:53
flaccid	type firefox	03:53
flaccid	<enter> and then pastebin output	03:53
timberwolf_	Hey when is the new package for firefox 2.0.0.11 going to be available. the current upgrade to 2.0.0.10 won't let me print pages for some odd reason. Samething happened in Windows.	03:54
mihai_	The program 'firefox' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:	03:54
mihai_	sudo apt-get install firefox	03:54
mihai_	this is what i'm getting	03:54
mihai_	even though it's installed	03:54
Viper	why can't you install it via apt-get mihai?	03:54
* flaccid waits		03:54
mihai_	i can	03:54
mihai_	and i did already..	03:54
mihai_	but it won't work either	03:54
flaccid	!doesntwork	03:55
ubotu	Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.	03:55
Viper	FF did install?	03:55
mihai_	yes	03:55
Radi01	lol	03:55
Viper	what output do you get when you type in /usr/bin/firefox in the konsole?	03:55
Viper	And are you using a 64-bit OS... I don't think my FF installed come to think of it either.....	03:56
mihai_	yes	03:56
mihai_	i'm using 64	03:56
* flaccid still waits		03:57
Radi01	there it is..U need 32 bit	03:57
Radi01	ff	03:57
mihai_	hmmmmmmmmmmmm	03:57
flaccid	paste uname -a please	03:57
flaccid	paste something at least heh	03:57
mihai_	Linux kubuntu 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux	03:58
flaccid	and can you paste the others requested to to pastebin	03:58
Viper	I think I just ended up downloading the FF binary from their website using konqueror and copying it into /usr/local....	03:59
Radi01	Most that have 64 bit use flash they need 32 bit ff.	04:00
flaccid	i'll wait for more output to see the problem	04:00
flaccid	but 64bit firefox works	04:00
t1n0m3n	so I am installing kubuntu on my laptop upgrading from 32 bit to 64 bit 7.10.... The network connection is incredibly slow. I have tried both wireless and wired and surfing the internet is moving like molasses. http://www.linuxquestions.org/ takes like 10 to 15 seconds to load. I am doing the adpet upgrade and it has taken over 2 hours now... any ideas on where to look?	04:00
flaccid	and this is a cool project: http://ubuntuzilla.wiki.sourceforge.net/	04:00
t1n0m3n	Dell Precision M90 - Kubuntu 7.10/Core2Duo T7400/Intel 3945 Wireless/200G 7200rpm HD/2G 667mhz Ram/Quadro FX2500M	04:01
Viper	For me, 64-bit FF works, but no add-ons work with it, that's why I ended up downloading the official version from their website.	04:01
flaccid	!opera	04:01
ubotu	opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser. Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser	04:01
flaccid	just use opera and be done with it if you can't paste output from firefox command..	04:02
mihai_	i'll just get opera..	04:03
t1n0m3n	ifconfig doesnt show an excessive amount of errors either	04:03
flaccid	test ping replies and dns lookups t1n0m3n	04:03
flaccid	as well as traceroute	04:03
t1n0m3n	29 to 31 ms to google...	04:05
flaccid	anyone know of a script or way to echo your current amarok mp3 title and artist in konversation ?	04:05
flaccid	and no packet loss	04:05
flaccid	or very little?	04:05
t1n0m3n	0 packetloss	04:05
flaccid	and how long are dns lookups taking	04:05
flaccid	fast?	04:05
t1n0m3n	cant traceroute yet, package not installed yet... still waiting on adept to do its thing	04:06
flaccid	host google.com	04:06
t1n0m3n	dns lookups seem normal... i.e instant	04:06
flaccid	ok	04:06
flaccid	do you know how to use wget?	04:06
t1n0m3n	oh, hehe, yep, lemme get it	04:06
flaccid	test some small and large files wget in /tmp	04:07
flaccid	if you see no bottleneck there	04:07
flaccid	then i guess its in application layer	04:07
flaccid	or userspace	04:07
t1n0m3n	k	04:07
flaccid	how many browsers you tested?	04:07
t1n0m3n	konquerer	04:08
Minifig	!samba	04:08
ubotu	samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT	04:08
flaccid	try opera and firefox	04:08
flaccid	if you have same problem then hmm	04:08
t1n0m3n	This is just now installed	04:08
t1n0m3n	kk	04:08
flaccid	also start the browsers from konsole to see errors	04:08
t1n0m3n	ahh, cool, that works	04:08
mihai_	flaccid i installed opera using sudo aptitude install opera	04:10
mihai_	How do I run it now?	04:10
flaccid	opera	04:11
mihai_	yes	04:11
flaccid	or opera & from konsole to go to background for example	04:11
mihai_	i tried typing opera	04:12
mihai_	bash: opera: command not found	04:12
flaccid	what does dpkg -l \| grep -i opera return?	04:13
mihai_	ii eject 2.1.5-2ubuntu2	04:13
mihai_	ejects CDs and operates CD-Changers under Li	04:13
flaccid	its not installed ..	04:14
flaccid	are you sure they are being installed?	04:14
t1n0m3n	interesting. everything I try to download, downloads at 7.2KBps	04:14
flaccid	right	04:15
flaccid	what is shaping you ?	04:15
mihai_	flaccid: well after i typed sudo aptitude install opera looks like it got installed	04:15
flaccid	mihai_: pastebin the output from that command	04:15
flaccid	!pastebin \| mihai_	04:15
ubotu	mihai_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	04:15
mihai_	flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46401/	04:16
flaccid	you could be shaped around 64kbps	04:16
Minifig	Can anyone help me with getting KDE to see my Windows shared folder, please.	04:17
Minifig	I have samba installed.	04:17
t1n0m3n	it has to be this machine then, 32 bit kubuntu on the same laptop (I have multiple HDs) downloads at around 600 to 620 KBps	04:17
flaccid	mihai_: what does the command which opera return?	04:17
t1n0m3n	or 5Mbps	04:17
flaccid	thats weird t1n0m3n	04:18
mihai_	mihai@kubuntu:~$ opera	04:18
mihai_	bash: opera: command not found	04:18
t1n0m3n	I think it may be a driver issue and maybe the adept update will fix it	04:18
flaccid	your packages don't seem right mihai_ 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 3 to remove and 42 not upgraded.	04:19
flaccid	some important libs in there i think	04:19
mihai_	why it that	04:19
Minifig	I get this error message: 'Could not connect to host for smb://minigroup/'	04:19
mihai_	ok	04:19
t1n0m3n	I am 96% into this 2.5 hour update, I think I will see soon	04:19
Viper	minifig: Are you trying to share your linux folders to win, or access your windows machine from linux?	04:19
flaccid	mihai_: i would recommend regenerating your sources/making sure they are right then update and upgrade to make sure your system is complete. reinstall the meta pacakges ubuntu-minimal and kubuntu-desktop	04:20
flaccid	something is not right	04:20
t1n0m3n	its smb:/ one slash	04:20
Minifig	I am trying to have Linux access Windows 98SE.	04:20
flaccid	pastebin sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade ..	04:20
Viper	LOL, gl.... win98 folder sharing SUCKED!	04:20
Minifig	I have 98 with sharing enabled and one folder shared.	04:20
Radi01	haha	04:20
t1n0m3n	smb:/minigroup/	04:21
Viper	It was bad enough getting XP to even read those shares!	04:21
mihai_	flaccid : ok	04:21
Minifig	98<>XP is a b... lol	04:21
Viper	Try the IP address instead...	04:21
flaccid	you can try #samba . its not that basic and im a bit busy sorry	04:21
flaccid	test with smbclient	04:21
Radi01	My dog ate my 98 disk..he then ran away from home.	04:22
Minifig	lol	04:22
flaccid	98 is discontinued by m$ and is a security threat	04:22
Radi01	I learned on 98 what a nite mare.	04:23
Radi01	I installed once a week	04:23
flaccid	horrible stuff it was	04:23
Viper	Easiest way to get the 98 HDD shared to a linux box: Buy an IDE-USB adapter... plug HDD into adapter, plug adapter into Linux!	04:23
t1n0m3n	Minifig : what did using one slash return? smb:/minigroup/	04:23
Radi01	dont use (promise)	04:24
Radi01	junk	04:24
Minifig	smb:/minigroup/ turned into smb://minigroup/	04:24
t1n0m3n	ahh	04:24
Minifig	I like 98, especially since I have an old PC. lol	04:25
Minifig	I use it constantly and no problems.	04:25
flaccid	smb4k is handy	04:25
flaccid	!info smb4k	04:25
ubotu	smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-1 (gutsy), package size 1788 kB, installed size 3832 kB	04:25
Minifig	If you want a laugh, I had 98SE running 2 weeks before I finally turned off the PC. 166Mhz 128MB PB computer.	04:25
Radi01	I worked it to death..	04:25
t1n0m3n	it stays one slash in dolphin for me	04:25
Viper	At least 98 is still a better OS then Vista.....	04:25
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Radi01	ya	04:25
flaccid	you can use dif auth settings in the config of smb4k..	04:25
flaccid	Viper: its not	04:26
Minifig	Friends don't let friends use ME or Vista.	04:26
Radi01	lo	04:26
Minifig	brb	04:26
Radi01	I use 2k it inmho is pretty good	04:26
Viper	flaccid: 98 may not be quite as secure... but it sure is a helluva faster then vista!	04:26
Viper	and it may not be able to network with anything....	04:27
Viper	Nor can you really use that ancient OS for anything more then Sol.exe... but still ^_^	04:27
mihai_	Has anyone tried BeOS/Zeta?	04:27
flaccid	speed means nothing. 98 has no firewall.	04:28
Radi01	I used zone labs.	04:28
Radi01	had t	04:28
Radi01	to'	04:28
Minifig	I use Windows 98 with the POwer Pack and Revolutions installed.	04:28
Ahmuck	6613 ? S 0:06 d3lphin -icon d3lphin -miniicon d3lphin -caption Dolphin system:/media	04:28
Ahmuck	does that look right?	04:28
Viper	Yeah, I'd prefer ZA or Linux over M$'s firewall anytime.	04:28
Ahmuck	d#lphin ?	04:28
Radi01	dolphin	04:29
Ahmuck	yes, but look at the process. it says d#lphin	04:29
Ahmuck	er, d3lphin	04:29
EightiesK	hey is EDUbuntu kde or gnome?	04:29
Radi01	thats the old name	04:29
Ahmuck	ah, ok	04:29
adamonline46	Can anyone help me get to this channel using kopete? I seem to be lame... 8)	04:30
kub^	hi have a noob question with amarok, when i install a new style it just stays the same, do i need to restart x or something?	04:30
Minifig	Load kopete and add IRC	04:31
Minifig	Choose Freenode	04:31
underdog44	can somebody here help me with an stunnel4 probelm?	04:31
Minifig	then join channel #kubuntu	04:31
Viper	The themes are buggy in amarok... You may need to reboot...	04:31
Viper	minifig, we're in kubuntu...	04:31
Minifig	I am using Kopete right now as my main messenger.	04:31
Dr_willis	kub^, perhaps restart amarok.	04:32
Minifig	Viper someone asked how to get here in Kopete.	04:32
kub^	tried restarting amarok i'll give restarting x a go or rebooting pc, thanks :)	04:32
Minifig	Can anyone help me get to this channel using kopete? I seem to be lame...	04:32
flaccid	Minifig: use /join #kubuntu	04:33
Minifig	That was from adamonline46	04:33
Dr_willis	Minifig, you mean to say you cant figre out how to use kopete?	04:33
Minifig	No, I was answering the message from adamonline46	04:33
Viper	Oh, not paying attention.... right right	04:33
Dr_willis	heh	04:33
* Dr_willis goes back to sleep/		04:33
Dr_willis	:)	04:33
Minifig	I adore Kopete.	04:33
Dr_willis	ill stick with xchat for now	04:33
Minifig	I am actually adoring Linux also. lol	04:33
Viper	Kopete is cool, until you connect to Y! on another machine with kopete still connected....	04:33
Radi01	I like my paper cup.	04:34
Minifig	I used to badmouth and really put down Linux.	04:34
Minifig	Not anymore. lol	04:34
Viper	heh	04:34
Viper	Once you pop.......	04:34
Minifig	lol	04:34
Minifig	I have 2 versions installed, if you wanna call it that.	04:34
adamonline46	Minifig: It works now! :O	04:34
Radi01	me 2 both	04:34
Minifig	Kubuntu Linux and LInux Mint KDE	04:34
Minifig	Wonderful adamonline46	04:35
adamonline46	Minifig: ty	04:35
Minifig	Glad to help.	04:35
Radi01	I tried mandrake..what a disaster	04:35
Minifig	I tried Mandriva, but not Mandrake.	04:35
Radi01	same	04:35
Minifig	Oh. lol	04:35
Radi01	it lasted 3 installs and went to the recycle box out back	04:36
Minifig	When it comes to using Linux, it helps of you're not a gamer, or not a BIG gamer. lol	04:37
Dr_willis	Minifig, You do realize that under Linux Mint - you can just install 'kubuntu-desktop' :)	04:37
flaccid	i have to change vid drivers to play games like et	04:37
Ahmuck	so what's different about linux mint?	04:37
Radi01	mihai is really having a hard time..poor kid.	04:37
Dr_willis	Ahmuck, codecs and a few toher things installed by default.	04:37
Minifig	Its quite interesting. Seems to come with alot more installed than normal.	04:38
Dr_willis	Ahmuck, and a few config tools.	04:38
jetsaredim	anyone know of a way to stack multiple xvid video files into a single dvd?	04:38
t1n0m3n	ok this is getting weird, I can do a samba transfer at 8.5 MBps	04:38
Minifig	Compiz, java, and other hard to install stuff.	04:38
Minifig	I still cannot get samba to work.	04:38
Ahmuck	jessaredim, as in so you can watch in multiples?	04:38
Ahmuck	er, sequence	04:39
Minifig	I think it does work in Kubuntu, but not sure how it was done.	04:39
flaccid	bbl	04:39
Ahmuck	Minifig: smb	04:39
Minifig	smb is installed.	04:39
Dr_willis	Minifig, most of that stuff can be installed rather trivially under Gutsy Now. :)	04:39
t1n0m3n	flaccid; you think this could be some ipv6 issues?	04:39
Dr_willis	You installed the 'samba' package?	04:39
Minifig	Yes	04:39
Minifig	Could not connect to host for smb://minigroup/	04:40
Dr_willis	did you edit the samba config? to enable some shares?	04:40
Minifig	No.	04:40
Dr_willis	did you givbe the user a samba password?	04:40
Dr_willis	There ya go.. :)	04:40
Minifig	I am still new to this Linux treasure. lol	04:40
Viper	smb://user@minigroup/	04:40
Minifig	Need to make notes.	04:40
Viper	or smb://user:password@minigroup/	04:40
Viper	But does that work on win98?.....	04:40
Dr_willis	install the samba-doc package and read the 'using samba book' thats in the package.	04:40
Dr_willis	smb:// is kde's method of giveing samba type ur;s	04:41
Dr_willis	urls	04:41
Minifig	Will do. I think I did tell it to install the doc.	04:41
Dr_willis	the default workgroup will also need 5to be set right.	04:41
adamonline45	Minifig: Any idea how to get rid of the 'topic' being mashed over all the chat text?	04:41
Minifig	No.	04:42
Minifig	Sorry.	04:42
Minifig	Where do I find the samba config file?	04:42
adamonline45	Minifig: That's ok...	04:42
adamonline45	/etc/samba/smb.conf	04:42
Ahmuck	i have a zip drive i added to my pc. does kubuntu have some type of autodetect?	04:43
Ahmuck	ah, nm, i recall that i have ide2 switched off in the bios	04:43
Minifig	Thank you. On the way.	04:43
Agent_bob	anyone know a way to make blind bios switch to agp card from pci card which i don't have ?	04:43
Viper	eh? blind BIOS? are you just trying to activate an AGP card when you also have an on-board GPU?	04:44
Agent_bob	Viper no onboard	04:45
Radi01	trying to get compriz to work with onboard chip?..lol	04:45
Viper	I think I'm lost here... but the bios should switch GPU's automatically..... if that's what you mean...	04:45
Dr_willis	Viper, yea.. any decent bios Should.. :)	04:46
Agent_bob	Radi01 no. trying to get vidio the bios reset to pci i dont have a pci vidio card to plug in the thing	04:46
Radi01	here is compriz with on board chip	04:46
Radi01	¿ʇı xıɟ ı uɐɔ ʍoɥ 'uʍop ǝpısdn sı uǝǝɹɔs ʎɯ	04:46
Radi01	lol	04:46
Radi01	ok	04:46
adamonline45	ha	04:46
Agent_bob	Viper one would think so. but this one is old	04:46
Viper	LOL, that's awesome...	04:47
Viper	Bob: Reset the BIOS with the jumper?... That may work....	04:47
Radi01	i pulled that in #ubuntu/ they didnt like it/ lol	04:48
Agent_bob	the ati agp card isn't tripping the switch to make it use it and i can't get past bios to boot the thing headless so "blind bios"	04:48
Radi01	no bios?	04:49
Agent_bob	Viper i fear that the default is pci rather than agp and that's how i got blinded	04:49
Agent_bob	Radi01 please keep up.	04:49
Radi01	ah ok	04:50
Viper	Hmm.... that's a good one...	04:50
Agent_bob	heh i don't "cry wolf" lol	04:50
Viper	Is there a GoodWill computer store nearby, or a used computer shop...	04:50
Agent_bob	Viper there is "nothing" nearby.	04:50
Viper	That's what I'd try.... just buy a cheapy $5 card.	04:50
Agent_bob	sand	04:50
Radi01	there is a hewlet packard used dept close by	04:51
Agent_bob	plenty of sand	04:51
Agent_bob	heh how did you know where i was lol	04:51
Viper	Well, I wouldn't suggest trying that to get PCI to work... silicate may not be friendly to mobo's....	04:51
Viper	Dallas....	04:52
Radi01	I still have a paqard bell around some where	04:52
Agent_bob	Viper one one think.	04:52
Viper	Oh, you're on the level3 network, cool...	04:52
Confused	Can someone please, please help me?	04:53
Viper	Not if you don't tell us your problem....	04:53
Confused	Heheh.	04:53
Confused	I just switched to Kubuntu from Winxp.	04:53
Agent_bob	Radi01 brand on the tower is "zeos-486" heh but it's had plenty of transplants and face lifts maybe a tummy tuck	04:53
Viper	Grats on the upgrade ^_^	04:53
Confused	I feel as if I had been dropped in the middle of China...	04:53
Radi01	a whole 12 mhz?	04:54
Viper	That's the general feeling for the first month of so.	04:54
Agent_bob	oh don't be silly 486's reached 66mhz without over clocking	04:54
yurimxpxman	what's the best browser ID setting to view gmail in konqueror?	04:54
Confused	I went out a bought a Wireless USB Adapter.	04:54
Radi01	ya I forgot 66 mhz	04:55
Viper	Yeah bob, I'd try to find a PCI card laying around somewhere, or borrow it from a friend, etc... that's probably your only choice.	04:55
Viper	confused: and you can't get wifi working?	04:55
Confused	I tried to install the drivers but Kubuntu doesnt like exe files.	04:55
t1n0m3n	well, I am re-installing kubuntu right now and I see the same exact problem, 7.2 KBps to the internet, I guess I will load the 7.10 32 bit install and chalk this up to a bug	04:55
Confused	I'm not sure if it works with Linux.	04:55
Viper	What's the model of the device?	04:55
Radi01	good luck t	04:56
Agent_bob	Viper looking that way. unless i can find a way to make bios attempt a boot with out recognizing any vidio that's what i was hopping for.	04:56
Confused	D-Link WDA-130	04:56
Viper	Well, first thing..... erm... what's the package manager called in KDE?....	04:56
Confused	DWA***	04:56
Confused	eh....	04:56
Confused	^.^?	04:56
t1n0m3n	Viper: adept	04:56
Viper	Thank you!	04:56
* Viper is running Gnome presently....		04:57
Viper	Open up adept and look for a program called ndiswrapper	04:57
Confused	Adept?	04:57
Confused	Oh.	04:57
Viper	There should be a search option somewhere....	04:57
Radi01	@ the top	04:57
Confused	I had to transfer that to my computer.	04:57
adamonline45	Does anyone here have a core2duo macbook, and perchance be willing to help me out with a couple things?	04:57
Agent_bob	Radi01 i said the brand on the tower, the mainboard has been changed ya know. k6 cpu still old but not 486 class	04:57
Confused	And it just gave me a bunch of text documents :(	04:57
t1n0m3n	kmenu > System > Adept Manager	04:57
Radi01	ya 500 mhz?	04:58
Agent_bob	6	04:58
Radi01	ah	04:58
Confused	one sec	04:58
yurimxpxman	what's the best browser ID setting to view gmail in konqueror?	04:58
Confused	gotta run to the other comp	04:58
Agent_bob	ie-6 yurimxpxman ?	04:59
Confused	It asked me for a password?	04:59
Viper	adept did, then enter your password....	05:00
yurimxpxman	Agent_bob: haha.. it says it requires activex	05:00
Viper	LOL	05:00
Confused	What password..o_O?	05:00
Viper	your user password	05:00
Confused	aah	05:00
Confused	k	05:00
yurimxpxman	Agent_bob: looks like only the old version of gmail will work with konqueror (must be set to FF 1.5*)	05:00
Viper	Anytime you open an application that is an administrative-type program, you need to type in your password.	05:01
Viper	It's a security feature on Linux, much like the "Are you sure you meant to click on this file", "Are you sure you wanted to click yes on the previous confirmation?" thing on Vista....	05:01
Agent_bob	yurimxpxman i didn't know. now i do.	05:01
Confused	Yay, it opened.	05:02
yurimxpxman	konqueror makes me login to everything every time I open it.. is there any way to make it keep those cookies?	05:02
Confused	Now what?	05:02
Viper	in the search bar, type in ndiswrapper	05:02
Confused	k	05:02
Viper	you should see ndisgtk, ndi... common, and utils.	05:02
Viper	Right-click -> Request Install.	05:02
Viper	It may say that it needs some packages, or dependencies.. go ahead and confirm them.	05:03
Agent_bob	hey hey hey, i got it to boot the linux cd but there still hasn't been any activity on the monitor... does linux have to have bios to access vidio ???	05:03
Confused	Nothing showed up.	05:03
t1n0m3n	yurimxpxman: Make sure tools > HTML settings > Cookies is checked	05:03
yurimxpxman	t1n0m3n: yeah, it is.. and I don't have the "treat all cookies as session cookies" checked, either..	05:04
Radi01	I think so bob..i once forgot to have my bat in and it kept looking and would not boot	05:04
adamonline45	Agent_bob: No, I use efi...	05:04
Viper	Somewhere he has to enable 'universe' repository...	05:04
Confused	I downloaded ndiswrapper and put the folder to the desktop, but it just gave me a bunch of coding in text documents...	05:04
Agent_bob	efi ? electronic fuel injection ?	05:04
Viper	tin \|\| radio, remember where that is in KDE's Adept?	05:04
adamonline45	hehheh... no, it's intels new 'bios', used on macbooks	05:05
Radi01	oh no	05:05
Viper	Confused: If you can help it, don't download source like that... it's not healthy for your sanity ^_^	05:05
adamonline45	no me likes it ho	05:05
adamonline45	er, tho*	05:05
Confused	But someplace online said I was suppose to get ndiswrapper...	05:05
Viper	There's a better way to get it...	05:05
Radi01	sudo apt-get uninstall ./bill gates	05:05
Viper	I'm trying to find where the option is...	05:06
Confused	Okay...	05:06
Confused	heheh	05:06
Agent_bob	lol	05:06
t1n0m3n	adept > manage repositories	05:06
Agent_bob	sudo dpkg -P bill-gates	05:06
t1n0m3n	check the "community maintained" checkbox	05:06
Agent_bob	ooops forgot --force-all ^	05:07
t1n0m3n	actually I just check them all	05:07
hydrogen	bill gates is community maintained?	05:07
Radi01	ya lol	05:07
Viper	LOL	05:07
t1n0m3n	sorry that was for viper	05:07
Confused	:-\...	05:07
adamonline45	-purge?	05:08
Viper	In the menu Adept, there's an option Manage Reps.. does it do anything for ya?	05:08
Confused	I've been searching google for 3 hours on how to use Linux...	05:08
Confused	Uhm...	05:08
Confused	let me check	05:08
t1n0m3n	it is on the menu along the top, confused, inside of adept	05:09
Confused	It brought up a list of words that all seem to be faded.	05:09
Viper	G.D. people on comcast trying to poke at my ports 1026/1027.. stop it, I'm not running winblows already!	05:09
Confused	At the bottom says "New Resp"	05:09
Radi01	lol	05:09
* Agent_bob needs lessons on how to use a computer... actually no. he doesn't need a teacher, he likes being a self made moron.		05:09
Radi01	Thats why I use adsl	05:10
Radi01	screw scamcast	05:10
Viper	Those idiots are fine.. they're safely behind my firewall. It's just bothersome.	05:10
Radi01	me 2	05:11
Confused	To install drivers for my Wireless USB Device I need to use the inf files?	05:11
t1n0m3n	disable gatuitus pings and you will see hack attempts go down by about 90% over a month or two	05:11
Viper	yeah	05:11
t1n0m3n	lol	05:11
t1n0m3n	gratuitus that is	05:11
Viper	You need an INF file and the SYS file, probably named similiarly.	05:11
Radi01	in firefox?	05:11
Confused	yeah	05:11
Radi01	firestarter	05:11
Confused	I found both of those files... But how?	05:11
Viper	^_^	05:11
Viper	Somewhere on that page Adept -> Manage reps., there's an option to enable community, or universe.. something like that	05:12
Confused	then what?	05:12
t1n0m3n	Viper: it is "Community-maintained Open Source software (universe)	05:13
Agent_bob	!repos \| Viper this what you want ?	05:13
ubotu	Viper this what you want ?: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	05:13
Viper	save changes (if any button), and go back to search.... look for ndiswrapper	05:13
Viper	Yeah, I'm running gnome, and adept's acting up... so I'm trying to walk him through blindly.. lol	05:13
t1n0m3n	it will pop up a reload dialog box too	05:13
Agent_bob	are we all playing "blind man's bluff" today ?	05:14
Viper	Evidently so....	05:14
t1n0m3n	I am running off of the live cd, lol	05:14
Confused	heheh thanks alot...	05:14
Confused	but..ehmm..	05:14
Confused	Do I hit the reset button...?	05:15
Viper	yeah	05:15
Viper	sure...	05:15
Radi01	on that k6	05:15
Viper	why not?	05:15
Confused	k....	05:15
Viper	lol	05:15
t1n0m3n	Confused: reload right?	05:15
Viper	The reset \|\| reload wtf the is... should get the new list of files you can download.	05:15
t1n0m3n	yep	05:15
Viper	Then the prized ndiswrapper should be downloadable.	05:16
* Viper whispers to tinomen, 'after this we can tell him about Wine ^_^'		05:16
Agent_bob	well looks like that box just became spair parts. not a pci vidio card within miles of here.	05:16
Viper	bob, send me your add and $4 for shipping, I'll send ya one ^_^ I've got PCI's o'plenty.	05:17
Confused	I'm not on the internet with that computer....	05:17
Agent_bob	i'd send you my address. but then i'd have to kill you...	05:17
Radi01	lol	05:17
t1n0m3n	Viper: actually the "W" in 7.10 is tons better than it was in 7.04	05:17
Agent_bob	and we dont want that.	05:18
Confused	My delimma is that I need to find a way that will allow me to install the INF files for the drivers so that my wireless usb will work.	05:18
Viper	Yeah, I know! I tried 7.10 on another laptop, quite nice!	05:19
Confused	I hit the manage resp button and it didn't do anything but give me these weird faded links.	05:19
t1n0m3n	OK, install is done, brb with installed 64 bit kubuntu goodness	05:19
Viper	NDISwrapper allows you to install M$ INF files for wireless devices on linux.	05:19
Confused	oh	05:20
Confused	Heheh	05:20
Confused	Then how do I get ndiswrapper?	05:20
Confused	:-D	05:20
Viper	Nothing comes up when you go back to the main screen?...	05:20
Confused	In Adept?	05:20
Viper	yeah	05:20
Confused	Unless I searched in the wrong search bar...	05:20
Viper	oh wait, does the machine your installing ndiswrapper have internet now?	05:21
Confused	Nope	05:21
NickPresta	LOL	05:21
Viper	ah, tiss be your problem	05:21
Confused	:(	05:21
Viper	I just caught you saying that above....	05:21
NickPresta	Confused, if you don't have internet, you can't install packages from the Repos	05:21
Radi01	oi	05:21
Confused	But I need to install the inf to get the internet...	05:21
Confused	I seem to be in a paradox..	05:21
Viper	can't you plug a cable into it?	05:21
NickPresta	Confused, if you like, you can download the deb package and transfer it via USB or floppy/CD and install it locally	05:21
Confused	That sounds a lot easier.	05:22
NickPresta	Confused, give me a minute to get you the Gutsy deb	05:22
Confused	Would you be able to provide me with a juicy link?	05:22
Radi01	do U have pay pal	05:22
Viper	AMD 64 or i386?	05:22
NickPresta	Confused, I'm downloading it as we speak	05:23
Confused	whats gutsy deb?	05:23
Viper	it's ubuntu 7.10	05:23
Viper	the fancy name for it....	05:23
Confused	I have a 1gb usb, will that work?	05:24
Viper	Well, Gutsy is the name, a deb is an installation file, much like M$'s MSI file or EXE installer.	05:24
Viper	Yeah, ndis is about 3Mb.	05:24
Viper	correction, 500k	05:24
tamgo	stupid questions: in kde 4, how do I switch virtual desktops? How do I move plasma icons?	05:24
Confused	Er...	05:24
Confused	Wait, what am I installing?	05:24
Confused	UBuntu or ndis?	05:24
Viper	The other machine you are trying to get wifi running on is running Ubuntu, right?	05:25
Viper	er, Kubuntu, same diff....	05:25
NickPresta	Confused, ndiswrapper-common (http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/misc/ndiswrapper-common) ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/misc/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9). Click on the "architecture" link to donwload the package	05:25
t1n0m3n	tamgo: Ctrl+F1 ... F2 ... etc	05:25
Confused	Viper: Yes.	05:25
t1n0m3n	Confused: Could you refresh my memory and tell me what WiFi chipset you are using?	05:26
Viper	D-Link DWA-130	05:27
Confused	Probably one that isn't supported by linux.	05:27
Confused	heheh	05:27
Confused	Yeah.	05:27
t1n0m3n	kk thx	05:27
Viper	With ndiswrapper, it should work....	05:27
Confused	Uhm..	05:27
Confused	Which one am I downloading?	05:27
Viper	both	05:27
t1n0m3n	breaking out some google goodness so I can learn while viper is helping	05:27
NickPresta	Confused, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-f23c29cc02764d709130d736be45147457c69eab Follow those instructions after you install ndiswrapper and have your windows inf file	05:27
NickPresta	Confused, you download both the common and utils file.	05:28
Confused	k	05:28
Viper	I was trying to find the gtk package also...	05:29
Confused	Do I have to dl all of those files?	05:29
Confused	I clicked the first one, and it gave me like 10 more links.	05:29
Confused	lol	05:29
Confused	I clicked the list of files...	05:29
Confused	vm	05:29
Confused	nvm	05:29
NickPresta	Confused, you click on your Architecture link (i386, or All, if there is no difference) Then it should give you a list of mirrors	05:30
Agent_bob	well. i guess some days you eat the bear, and some days the bear eats you... i guess today i'm Ursus repast ;/	05:30
Confused	Sorry.	05:32
Confused	Wron botton...	05:32
Agent_bob	oh by the way. does anyone know a way "without doing a full e2fsck" to set the state bit to "clean" ?	05:32
Viper	do the full scan and go to sleep......	05:33
Agent_bob	doesn't fit within specified parameters ^	05:33
Radi01	What do U want cleaned	05:34
Agent_bob	ext2 fs	05:34
Viper	HAH! finally found that damn ndisgtk....	05:34
Confused	Yay	05:35
Agent_bob	it's not dirty, just marked as such.	05:35
Viper	This util will help you also, this way you won't need to mess with the command line.	05:35
Confused	Putting the files on my usb	05:35
Radi01	kleansweeper?	05:35
Confused	<3	05:35
Confused	So... Why is linux better than windows?	05:35
Viper	http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndisgtk/ndisgtk_0.7.2-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb for x84_64	05:35
Viper	http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndisgtk/ndisgtk_0.7.2-1ubuntu1_i386.deb if it's 32-bit	05:35
Agent_bob	Radi01 heh no.	05:35
Confused	I want to download those aswell?	05:36
Viper	Yeah	05:36
Viper	One or the other...	05:36
Viper	If you have a 64-bit instll, then chose that, if you have a regular, chose the 32.	05:36
Agent_bob	Confused EULA? price? doesn't get virii? support community?	05:36
Viper	Or if you have a 64-bit in still....... erm	05:36
Agent_bob	business practices ?	05:36
Confused	Bob... That went in one ear and out the other...	05:37
Viper	M$ newest OS: $400, Linux newest: $0.00	05:37
Confused	ohh	05:37
Radi01	yay	05:37
Confused	Hehehe.	05:37
Viper	M$ releases: 6-years apart: linux: 6-months max	05:37
Viper	M$: Phone support over in India.....	05:37
Radi01	M$ spayware linux not	05:37
Viper	Linux: us ^_^	05:37
Agent_bob	Confused and did i mention, that you own your linux os, it's yours. and you rent the right to use in the way they dictate their os	05:38
hydrogen	staying on topic?: priceless	05:38
Viper	It's on topic... See linux in the discussion?	05:38
Agent_bob	hydrogen he asked. i'm on topic this time.	05:38
Agent_bob	:)	05:38
NickPresta	Viper, this is the Kubuntu support channel. General chatter in #kubuntu-offtopic	05:38
hydrogen	Viper: I see ms in the discussion as well as linux	05:38
jalbert	Linux doesn't get viruses, doesn't need to be rebooted after sofware installation, doesn't need to be defragmented, can read any filesystems of other OSs...	05:39
hydrogen	at that point its no longer about support	05:39
jalbert	runs faster	05:39
jalbert	takes up less space	05:39
jalbert	has less bullsh*t in general	05:39
Agent_bob	more powerfull	05:39
hydrogen	less polished	05:39
jalbert	you can actually have control over your machine	05:39
Confused	Will I still be able to Run Age of Empires, and various video games?	05:40
Viper	possibly with Wine	05:40
t1n0m3n	lol spayware	05:40
hydrogen	!appdb	05:40
ubotu	The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org	05:40
jalbert	sure	05:40
Agent_bob	hydrogen there aren't very many of us that actually count that as a plus tho	05:40
jalbert	Wine, WMware	05:40
jalbert	VMware	05:40
hydrogen	running games in vmware is a lot like pulling ones teeth out through ones cornea	05:40
* Viper agrees		05:41
Agent_bob	ouch	05:41
Viper	your better off with wine.	05:41
jalbert	yeah	05:41
Agent_bob	one must needs ask, "why remove the teeth?"	05:41
jalbert	VMware does have a lot more overhead	05:41
t1n0m3n	I run WoW under wine and it works great	05:41
=== Confused is now known as Trillis
Radi01	ram killer	05:41
jalbert	yeah most Adobe aps do too	05:42
Viper	Confused \|\| Trillis, get those files alirght?	05:42
jalbert	so does HalfLife 2	05:42
Trillis	yeah	05:42
Trillis	Sorry.	05:42
Trillis	I've been reading this conversation and entertaining company.	05:42
t1n0m3n	you've been reading this converstion to your company?	05:43
t1n0m3n	j/k	05:43
Trillis	Heheh, no.	05:43
Trillis	I've been being talked at by my company.	05:43
Viper	ah, well, when you get ready to install them on your machine that needs ndis, either double-click (or single-click in KDE), or in the konsole terminal: sudo dpkg -i ndisgtk_0.7.2-1ubuntu...deb ndiswraper-common-version.dep ndiswrapper-other-file......deb	05:44
Trillis	Whilst reading your conversations and gigling inside.	05:44
t1n0m3n	kk, was wondering about the nerdiness of your company	05:44
Radi01	talking and typing is rude..lol	05:44
Agent_bob	linux has traditionally been more for the "hacker" "cracker" "programmer" and "geek" than for the "point and click, never read the message, just click yes" type crouds if you fit any of those you'll love it.	05:44
Trillis	I've been more the point and click...	05:44
t1n0m3n	my company, that would be normal... but you never know	05:45
Viper	I think we could have guessed.... ^_^	05:45
Radi01	point and hack	05:45
Trillis	Transerfering the files now.	05:45
Trillis	Viper I still have to dl the oens you gave me.	05:45
Viper	"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a stationwagon flying down the interstate loaded with data tapes"	05:45
t1n0m3n	lol	05:45
Viper	**or now-a-days: flying down loaded with USB-keys....	05:46
Radi01	my modem is solar powered.	05:46
Trillis	Okay	05:46
Trillis	I have three files I need to transfer?	05:46
Trillis	The two bob gave me and one of the two Viper gave me, correct?	05:47
Viper	OMFG.. I need to do an IP-physical address reverse lookup and slap these damn win users who keep trying to access those ports....	05:47
Viper	Yeah	05:47
Trillis	k	05:47
Radi01	prolly queers	05:47
t1n0m3n	arin.net?	05:47
Viper	No, they're neighbors judging by the IP's.... they're the same subnet as me...	05:47
Trillis	okay	05:48
Trillis	when I extract them to the comp wth linux, then what?	05:48
Trillis	Should I put them any where specific?	05:48
t1n0m3n	lol, my video card is saying it needs to resart the comp... weird I could probably get away with an X restart... oh well brb	05:48
Trillis	Or just drag them on to my desktop?	05:48
Viper	desktop	05:48
Trillis	k	05:48
Viper	click // dbl click on them...	05:48
Trillis	nbrb	05:48
Agent_bob	heh is that // right dbl click or \\ left dbl click ? :)	05:49
jalbert	hey can anyone recommend a good irc fileserver?	05:50
Viper	erm... ftpd?....	05:50
Radi01	what uses those ports	05:50
Agent_bob	which ports ?	05:50
Radi01	the ones that are being banged @ vipers place	05:51
Viper	What? The ones that these dips keep poking?... it's some micro, erm... other OS.. looks at H, program.	05:51
Radi01	ah	05:51
Trillis	er...	05:51
Viper	1026 and 1027	05:51
Trillis	"Utility is not in the path" or some kind of error when I click on them...	05:51
Viper	I forgot exactly what they do, but a quick online google will retrieve what they do.	05:52
Viper	Ok, then try this: Open terminal or Konsole (both same)	05:52
Trillis	Is this when I go to Adept?	05:52
Viper	It's in the menu under system or utilities I think...	05:52
Trillis	Guess not.	05:52
Viper	type cd Desktop	05:52
Viper	followed by sudo dpkg -i ndis*.deb	05:53
Viper	and enter your password when it requests is	05:53
Agent_bob	Viper grep in /etc/services nothing is defaulted there	05:53
Radi01	callander axcess porst	05:53
Trillis	So I go to the Konsole	05:53
Trillis	type in	05:53
Viper	It's access radio? wtf....	05:54
Trillis	sudo dpkg -i ndis* .deb	05:54
Radi01	i"m not as think as you drunk i am.	05:54
Viper	You forgot cd Desktop	05:54
Trillis	damn	05:54
=== taras is now known as bulba
t1n0m3n	before I get deep into the google, can anyone tell me the best way to disable ipv6?	05:54
Agent_bob	Radi01 sober not me some more ?	05:54
Trillis	cd Desktop then sudo dpkg -i ndis* .deb?	05:54
Viper	yup	05:54
Radi01	hiccup	05:54
Trillis	k	05:55
Trillis	brb	05:55
Viper	I think that'll work.... lol	05:55
stdin	t1n0m3n: put "blacklist ipv6" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist	05:55
t1n0m3n	stdin: thx!	05:56
Viper	If nothing else, it's good excersize for him....	05:56
Trillis	k	05:57
Trillis	It filled the konsole up with errors.	05:57
Trillis	:-D	05:57
Viper	Ahhh, port 1026UDP is that annoying messenger thing....	05:57
Radi01	it said allot of spam on that one 2	05:58
Agent_bob	the errors are actually encoded clues that linux geeks use to send messages about what really happened to your program.	05:58
Viper	Hmm..	05:58
Viper	I still think that you should just plug a cable into the box and download the packages that way....	05:58
Trillis	Something about dependance issues...	05:58
Viper	GAH, we forgot about them...	05:59
Trillis	what exactly does the sudo command do?	05:59
Trillis	What?	05:59
Agent_bob	42	05:59
Viper	sudo allows you to run an application as the 'root' user.	05:59
Viper	Or it does 42 according to bob...	05:59
Radi01	lol	06:00
Radi01	ya 10	06:00
Trillis	I thought 42 was the answer to everything?	06:00
Trillis	:(	06:00
Agent_bob	Trillis man <any_command_you_want_to_read_about>	06:00
hydrogen	and hope that it ships with a man page	06:00
hydrogen	or use the awesome man kioslave	06:00
INIT_6	to make kde4 run right do you have to have kde4libs?	06:00
Agent_bob	hydrogen ubuntu does	06:00
jalbert	42 is the answer to Life, The Universe and Everything	06:00
Radi01	when in terminal hit tab 2wice it gives a list	06:00
hydrogen	and view it at man:/command in konqueror	06:00
t1n0m3n	!42	06:00
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	06:00
t1n0m3n	lol	06:00
hydrogen	Agent_bob: right, but all commands availible in ubuntu do not	06:00
Trillis	Er... Now what am I doing?	06:01
stdin	INIT_6: yeah, every kde(4) app needs kde(4)libs	06:01
t1n0m3n	err...hmm	06:01
Trillis	After the konsole got errors	06:02
Viper	well, dependencies are how Linux controls cross-application ... troublefreeness....	06:02
Viper	It's late, that's the best terminology I can think of...	06:02
Trillis	ah.	06:02
Radi01	east coast?	06:02
Trillis	What should I do now?	06:02
Viper	But, we can rattle off all the deps that those apps need and you can download them, then try to install all at the same time using the dpkg command....	06:02
Agent_bob	hydrogen only ones that i know of that don't are bash builtin's and gui crap. the built-ins help <blah> works. ummmm or there might be a few scripts that ubuntu adds that don't have a manpage idk about that. i just less `which script` on those.	06:02
Viper	Or just plug a damn cable intot he machine and run the online updater, which will install all of the deps without you hassling over it.	06:03
isa268[FAN]	get a cable and hook it up directly to the net. IMO	06:03
Trillis	would the command just be dpkg -i ndis* .deb?	06:03
INIT_6	When i try to install kde4libs and kde4libs-data it breaks. and tried it in command line also.	06:03
Viper	radio: Yeah, I'm a few timezones east of ya.	06:03
Trillis	The computer is upstairs.	06:03
INIT_6	whines about a broken pipe	06:03
Radi01	im in the same place	06:03
Trillis	And I don't have a long enough ethernet cord to reach.	06:03
stdin	INIT_6: just install "kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime"	06:03
Agent_bob	Trillis yes. sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package-name.deb	06:03
Viper	Unplug all the cords, and drag the tower downstaris!	06:04
Viper	As long as you don't trip over the down stars..... erm....	06:04
Radi01	lol	06:04
Agent_bob	and it will error out with the missing dependancies and you can install them the same way	06:04
Viper	don't you mean, it won't error out...	06:05
Agent_bob	no. i mean it will.	06:05
Agent_bob	but we'll see.	06:05
Viper	WEll, it'll just display a notice to intall them too...	06:05
Agent_bob	yeah and fail to configure the package	06:05
Agent_bob	and thus have to retry to configure it each time dpkg runs	06:06
Trillis	o_O	06:07
Trillis	okay	06:07
Agent_bob	or one might say it will "half install a broken package" that when you install the last of the deps will become "installed and not broken"	06:07
Trillis	I'm going to drag it downstairs.	06:07
Viper	ndisgtk requires python >= 2.5, but < 3, ndiswrapper-util, python-gtk, and python-glade2.....	06:07
Trillis	I'll be ack.	06:07
Viper	See why manually installing software is a pain trillis?	06:08
Agent_bob	too late	06:08
Viper	I guess he didn't..	06:08
Viper	Oh well, he's draggin the machine down anyways.	06:08
jalbert	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZN1puUwH0c	06:09
Viper	erm, a random utube vide.. do we even want to?..	06:09
Viper	Ok, that works	06:09
Agent_bob	short answer, no	06:10
t1n0m3n	pasting it to my other machine to watch, this one still cant D/L fast enough to watch it	06:10
Viper	don't	06:10
Viper	it's worthless	06:10
Agent_bob	i still don't know why the bot doesn't auto ban if youtube.com/ is in the url ...	06:11
stdin	because ubotu can't ban anyone	06:12
Viper	it can't?....	06:12
stdin	nope	06:12
Agent_bob	not the only bot in the channel	06:13
maduser	whats the banning bot?	06:13
stdin	it's the only "active" bot (or it should be)	06:13
t1n0m3n	ok, I should have listened to viper	06:13
Viper	LOL	06:13
Agent_bob	i agree you don't want bot wars	06:13
Viper	Why not, that could be fun ^_^	06:14
maduser	have you ever seen a bot war?	06:14
Agent_bob	*!ubotu tell 'otherbot' about help	06:14
t1n0m3n	is that where you get 2 bots to respond to each other?	06:14
Agent_bob	or kick eachother if they are oped	06:15
t1n0m3n	lol	06:15
maduser	once on another irc channel i got the banning bot to ban the info bot	06:15
joseph	that's always fun	06:15
Radi01	We used to get that to happen in icq was way funny	06:16
Agent_bob	why ? you disrupt the normal chatter for that ?	06:16
Agent_bob	</shrugs>	06:16
Viper	wow.... an IRC infi-loop situation... like the autoaway message being bounced continuesly....	06:16
Agent_bob	some people get their jollies in the strangest ways.	06:16
stdin	off-topic chat should be in #kubuntu-offtopic ;)	06:16
maduser	ok	06:16
Agent_bob	unless you are talking to stdin :)	06:17
Viper	Yeah we know, just making idle chat since no one is requesting help ATM.	06:17
maduser	true	06:18
stdin	Viper: yeah, but we have a whole (dead) channel for that :)	06:18
t1n0m3n	ok, I need help	06:18
maduser	whats the problem?	06:18
t1n0m3n	I am having issues installing bonzi buddy	06:18
Agent_bob	t1n0m3n 42	06:18
t1n0m3n	lol	06:18
maduser	you don't need to ask to ask for jelp	06:18
stdin	jelp?	06:18
stdin	:p	06:18
Agent_bob	yelp	06:18
t1n0m3n	ok, I just always wanted to say that	06:18
maduser	say waht?	06:19
t1n0m3n	ask for help installing bonzi buddy on a linux irc channel	06:19
Radi01	hahaha	06:19
NickPresta	Out of curiosity, I came across 'hot-babe' when looking at medibuntu a couple days ago. I decided to check it out, purely out of curiosity, and it locked up X so bad I had to restart my machine. Anyone else with the same prolem?	06:19
NickPresta	s/prolem/problem	06:19
maduser	hot babe?	06:20
NickPresta	http://dindinx.net/hotbabe/ Might be NSFW but has no nudity	06:20
Agent_bob	surely just out of curiosity. nothing more.	06:20
NickPresta	heh. Male curiosity :P	06:20
Radi01	honest	06:20
Agent_bob	:)	06:20
maduser	yeah that what i need	06:21
* Agent_bob sheepishly admits to peeking at a magizine cover one time.		06:21
maduser	just the cover?	06:21
Agent_bob	only once. and i didn't inhale	06:21
Agent_bob	:)	06:21
t1n0m3n	Agent_bob: You missed out	06:22
maduser	yeah	06:22
t1n0m3n	You should always inhale	06:22
NickPresta	heh. Well, I'm `cd`ing to /dreamland looking for `more dreams`. Goodnight all.	06:22
stdin	off-topic chat should be in #kubuntu-offtopic (and this is definitely off-topic chat)	06:22
hydrogen	any plans for kubuntu to redo the sound scheme to be as soothing as microsofts? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/261186	06:22
Radi01	chowv nick	06:22
Agent_bob	NickPresta shalom	06:22
t1n0m3n	I usually turn off all sounds in every OS I use	06:23
Radi01	use vlc	06:23
Agent_bob	sox	06:23
t1n0m3n	so I am not too familiar with linux sounds	06:24
maduser	let me see	06:24
Radi01	look	06:24
Agent_bob	open thine eye young man!	06:25
* Agent_bob now imagines at least nine people attempting to raise the core temp of their machines....		06:26
Radi01	Mine has auto temp.	06:26
Agent_bob	"quick, compile a kernel"	06:26
Viper	About sounds, I enjoyed the 'system error' sound of a laptop when the sound system kept defaulting back to MAX volume on each reboot....	06:26
Viper	Anyone know if KDE kept the shattering glass error sound in KDE4 that comes with gutsy?	06:27
yurimxpxman	what's the name of the program to install deb files?	06:27
Viper	dpkg	06:28
trillis	Hahah!	06:28
Viper	dpkg -i name_of_file.deb	06:28
t1n0m3n	OK, so here is the scoop so far: I can download fast from my XP machine, I download slow from my x64 linux, I download fast from my x32 linux (on the same machine), I download fast from my x64 machine over smb	06:28
trillis	I was chatting here last time using a java applet.	06:28
trillis	so I was trying to install a java applet and I was lost...	06:28
Agent_bob	yurimxpxman apt-get install if it's in the repos dpkg -i if it's on disk	06:28
Viper	An issue with a lib in 64?....	06:28
t1n0m3n	Viper: I think so, but I have yet to find a similar issue in google.	06:29
Viper	trillis: install a java applet?.... you don't install them.. .just make sure that you have java installed and key in java -jar /path/to/java_program.jar	06:29
trillis	Viper: I'm on the Linux comp, now what?	06:29
trillis	arg..	06:29
trillis	Thatpart confused me.	06:29
trillis	Something about this wierd SU command.	06:29
trillis	Apparently I don't know the password.	06:29
Viper	trill, what are you trying to do now, run a java command or adept?	06:30
trillis	Well...	06:30
Agent_bob	t1n0m3n only a thought, could be that ipv6 issue the forums has chatter about.	06:30
trillis	Now I'm fine.	06:30
trillis	I just need to get the things you told me.	06:30
trillis	I hooked this computer up to the internet	06:30
Viper	and su works differently then sudo	06:30
Viper	The load up adept_manager from the menu or sudo adept_manager from the terminal...	06:31
Agent_bob	trillis ummm sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f ?	06:31
t1n0m3n	Agent_bob: I thought that too, I have put ipv6 in the blacklist and rebooted already	06:31
Viper	And Nick, this babe application looks interesting.... you said it broke X?	06:31
trillis	just type in sudo adept_manage in konsole?	06:31
trillis	manager*	06:32
stdin	"kdesu adept_manager"	06:32
Viper	Yeah, that'll load the GUI for it.	06:32
stdin	don't use sudo	06:32
Agent_bob	Viper he signed off already.	06:32
maduser	sudo adept_manage	06:32
Viper	ah... well it still look interesting none-the-less....	06:32
maduser	sudo adept_manager	06:32
trillis	Hm...	06:32
maduser	doesn't work	06:32
trillis	adept manager is open	06:32
Agent_bob	maduser no. you should make it a habbit of advising kdesu for gui apps.	06:32
Viper	And trill, I suppose standard knows KDE a bit more then I do, probably since he's/she's sitting at KDE...	06:33
stdin	do not use sudo with GUI apps...	06:33
trillis	Standard?	06:33
Viper	standard, what is the issue with sudoing GUI's?	06:33
stdin	!kdesu	06:33
ubotu	In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)	06:33
Viper	stdin == standard in in C++	06:33
Agent_bob	maduser ^ see ubotu	06:33
t1n0m3n	oh wow stdin, you just gave me an idea on some shell scripts	06:34
stdin	Viper: actually "cin" (console in) is the equivalent of stdin in C++	06:34
stdin	stdin in just generic :p	06:34
trillis	k	06:34
trillis	Adept manager open.	06:34
Viper	erm... close enough	06:34
Viper	Oh, sorry trill... search for ndiswrapper	06:34
Agent_bob	Viper also in shell scripting linux has device /dev/stdin /devstdout /dev/stderr	06:34
maduser	kdesudo Adept	06:34
trillis	:(	06:35
trillis	Broken?	06:35
maduser	kdesudo Adept Manager	06:35
Viper	Ok, I get it.. it's nearly 2am, I'm tired! lol	06:35
maduser	nothing	06:35
trillis	I found the ndisgtk	06:35
stdin	maduser: "Adept" is not a program name and neither is "Adept Manager"	06:35
trillis	and wrapper	06:35
Viper	Trill: ndis doesn't bring anything up?	06:35
trillis	I found them.	06:35
Viper	Can you install them?...	06:35
trillis	But the status says "BROKEN".	06:35
trillis	In red.	06:35
Viper	what context menu is there (right-click)	06:36
stdin	maduser: it's "adept_manager"	06:36
trillis	I just requested an install.	06:36
trillis	But its not doing anyting..	06:36
stdin	trillis: you have to click the apply button to get it going	06:36
Agent_bob	i told you to issue the command sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f then they all said open the package manager... if done in that order you wouldn't be looking at a broken package.	06:36
trillis	"There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages"....	06:37
Viper	install -f... I'm always hesistant to use force in installing apps...	06:37
t1n0m3n	yay firefox is installed... hehe	06:37
trillis	heheh	06:37
Agent_bob	Viper -f is not force. it's finish.	06:37
trillis	Let me try bobs way...	06:37
Viper	Oh... for incomplete installs... OK	06:38
Viper	Like I said, I'm tired.... that's the excuse I'm using!	06:38
Agent_bob	i'm an idiot, i don't need an excuse.	06:38
Agent_bob	:)	06:38
trillis	Unable to lock...	06:39
trillis	the admin directory	06:39
Viper	sudo	06:39
Agent_bob	cause you didn't close the adept	06:39
stdin	trillis: you need to close adept too	06:39
trillis	hahaha	06:39
trillis	oops	06:39
trillis	uhm...	06:39
trillis	a lot of words came up	06:39
trillis	and said DONE	06:39
trillis	DONE	06:40
trillis	DONE	06:40
trillis	DONE	06:40
trillis	etc...	06:40
Viper	@ not running sudo for graphic apps... Yeah, I remember what that does.... it's kind of annoying when that happens..	06:40
Viper	well trill, done is a good thing!	06:40
trillis	Do I want to continue?	06:40
Agent_bob	yes	06:40
Viper	I'm going to guess... yeah	06:40
trillis	reading database...	06:40
Viper	Since you've only been fighting with this for the past several hours....	06:40
trillis	I started this quest around 8 or so... heheh.	06:41
trillis	It's no 2am.	06:41
trillis	now*	06:41
maduser	google your error	06:41
maduser	it always works	06:41
trillis	I did.	06:41
trillis	IWell.	06:41
trillis	Actually.	06:41
trillis	I didn't have an error to google.	06:41
maduser	what happened?	06:41
trillis	I accidently found out there was a chat for kubuntu	06:41
Agent_bob	no error means no error.	06:41
trillis	I'm retarded.	06:41
trillis	<< Winxp user.	06:41
stdin	trillis: try to keep responses on one line, makes it easier to read :)	06:41
trillis	Ah, sorry.	06:42
Viper	Especially when you have 50 people posting things at the same time...	06:42
maduser	i know the fix to your probelm	06:42
Agent_bob	now if the packaging cricisus is over i'll let you fellas finish what you started with him.	06:42
maduser	trills: sudo dpkg --configure -a	06:43
maduser	run this as root	06:43
Agent_bob	maduser heh. no.	06:43
maduser	it should work:)	06:43
trillis	Right now the last things the konsole said was "(Reading database ... 65809 files and directories currently installed.) Removing ndisgtk... Removing ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 ...	06:43
Agent_bob	ok you should be ready to install ndiswarper through adept as they said	06:43
trillis	k	06:44
Agent_bob	maduser he doesn't have a problem atm.	06:44
Agent_bob	maduser you are just a minute behind. but keep trying. :)	06:45
trillis	The only thing showing up on Adept is ndisgtk	06:45
maduser	trills do you use a broadcom wireless card?	06:45
Viper	erm... Ok, I think you have better luck with the terminal...	06:45
Viper	D-Link DWA-130	06:45
Agent_bob	and it make Agent_bob look silly to answer pm's in the channel....	06:45
trillis	This is my entire dilema.	06:45
trillis	Getting to instal those drivers hehehe.	06:46
trillis	install*	06:46
trillis	So do I want to install the ndisgtk?	06:46
Viper	GAH, You jinxed me stdin! I have that error caused by sudoing graphical apps....	06:46
Viper	Yeah	06:46
stdin	Viper: so chown your $HOME :)	06:47
Agent_bob	lol	06:47
Viper	yup...	06:47
Viper	problem is that I have well over 500gigs in that dir :(	06:47
Agent_bob	own your home own your own home !	06:48
trillis	I requested Install... But it's not doing anything...	06:48
stdin	chown shouldn't take long, takes longer on lots of small files than a few large ones	06:48
stdin	trillis: again, remember to click apply	06:48
Viper	Takes even longer when it tries to chown a 500gig NTFS drive :(	06:48
Agent_bob	stdin even faster if one find ./ first lol	06:48
* flaccid sips tea		06:48
trillis	The apply button is fadded so I can't click it.	06:49
Viper	LOL, just go back to the command line....	06:49
trillis	Maduser: I'd reply to you PM but something about a spam block...?	06:49
stdin	!pm > maduser	06:49
Agent_bob	you too ?	06:50
Dr_willis	Only Registered nicks can PM.	06:50
maduser	trills: do you use a broadcom wireless card?	06:50
* trillis is back in the konsole...		06:50
Viper	No, he has a d-link	06:50
maduser	ok	06:50
maduser	never mind	06:50
stdin	trillis: the command is "sudo apt-get install ndisgtk"	06:50
Viper	sudo apt-get install whatever you need	06:50
flaccid	sudo apt-get install pkg1 pkg2 ...	06:51
trillis	sudo apt-get install ndisgtk	06:51
trillis	whoops	06:51
Agent_bob	popy and caste	06:51
Viper	W00t! hotbabe compiles! LOL	06:51
Viper	And it REALLY slows down your system! GAH	06:51
trillis	Whats pkg1 and pkg2?	06:52
Agent_bob	that's what NickPresta said. drug it down to a reboot.	06:52
trillis	Package?	06:52
Dr_willis	Hmm. Hotbabe was in one of the repos. :)	06:52
Viper	he's saying that you can install several packages at once.	06:52
Dr_willis	severas repo i think.	06:52
flaccid	trillis: example names of packages	06:52
trillis	Hm... "Package ndisgtk has no installation canditate".	06:52
Dr_willis	!find ndis	06:52
ubotu	Found: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-386, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-server, ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (and 5 others)	06:53
Dr_willis	!find ndisgt	06:53
ubotu	Found: ndisgtk	06:53
stdin	universe...	06:53
Dr_willis	!info ndisgt	06:53
ubotu	Package ndisgt does not exist in gutsy	06:53
Dr_willis	!info ndisgtk	06:53
ubotu	ndisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 18 kB, installed size 172 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)	06:53
Agent_bob	Dr_willis yeah you must have missed the Q. NickPresta asked if it bogged anyone elses system down to a reboot so all the "guys" in here jumped on the chance to test it.	06:53
Dr_willis	There we go. :P	06:53
stdin	Dr_willis: you trying to kill ubotu?	06:53
t1n0m3n	how do I set the DF flag with ping in kubuntu? The man page does not say	06:53
Dr_willis	Agent_bob, hotbabe? it never slowed down my systems much that ive noticed.,	06:54
Agent_bob	yes hot-babe	06:54
Viper	I think that app fights with beryl....	06:54
Dr_willis	me pets ubotu.	06:54
trillis	erm....	06:54
Dr_willis	Everything fights with beryl :)	06:54
* Viper pet ubotu		06:54
t1n0m3n	ugh, beryl	06:54
Agent_bob	!botsnack	06:54
ubotu	Yum! Err, I mean, APT!	06:54
t1n0m3n	lol	06:55
t1n0m3n	that is a good one	06:55
stdin	trillis: easiest way to enable the repositories you need is to (sigh) go back into adept. from there go to the "Adept" menu and click on "Manage Repositories" and then check all the boxes in the first tab	06:55
Viper	that line is so humerous.. if you know what it means	06:55
trillis	"This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only availbale from another source.	06:55
trillis	"	06:55
trillis	Aah	06:55
Viper	Well, I now have a new program to scp onto someone's machine during a LAN party ^_^	06:56
flaccid	check repos/versions	06:56
Agent_bob	Viper hot-babe ?	06:56
Viper	yup ^_^	06:56
Agent_bob	figured.	06:56
Viper	Last time it was xsnow, now it'll be this	06:56
trillis	What boxes?	06:56
Viper	Actually... xsnow is a good trick to do with your classmates in a linux course!	06:57
maduser	!xsnow	06:57
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about xsnow - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	06:57
t1n0m3n	in windows ping -f www.google.com means that you are sending a ping with the do not fragment flag set, is there a way to set the DF flag with ping in ubuntu?	06:57
Agent_bob	Viper what does xsnow do ? or is the name obvous enough ?	06:57
trillis	I don't see any boxes :(....	06:57
stdin	trillis: "box" is a shorthand for "computer system"	06:57
trillis	oh.	06:57
trillis	heheh	06:57
Viper	viperbot: xsnow = application for gnome to make snow appear over the desktop, covering windows and the taskbar... also santa flys across randomly	06:57
Agent_bob	stdin actually that time i think it was "check boxes"	06:58
trillis	So what am I looking for?	06:58
* leileiloll is away: off to play non-Free 2		06:58
stdin	Agent_bob: yeah, actually just saw that :p	06:58
stdin	trillis: what do you see?	06:58
trillis	comment # Line Commented out by installer becase it failed to verify	06:59
Viper	I think at this point.. it would just be easier if he initiated a remote assistance connection to one of us... more namingly, stdin.	06:59
trillis	There is a few of those, and the some deb http://www.link...blah..	06:59
trillis	:-o	06:59
stdin	trillis: if you right-click on the greyed out ones do you see an option to "enable" ?	06:59
maduser	xsnow = sweet	06:59
trillis	Yeah	07:00
stdin	trillis: do that for all the ones there that start with "deb http://"	07:00
trillis	k	07:00
jaime	hello guys	07:00
jaime	anybody running laptops?	07:00
trillis	Why though	07:00
maduser	xsnow looks a liitle laggy	07:00
trillis	?	07:00
Viper	I would, but linux hates @ sound drivers && wifi drivers.	07:00
t1n0m3n	jaime: Dell laptop here	07:00
stdin	trillis: you should see it removing the "#" sigh, that activated the repository. a repository is a site that stores packages you can install with Adept or apt-get	07:01
Viper	maduser: I ran xsnow on non-beryl/compiz machines, and it ran fine... they probably just have issues with composite manager.s	07:01
stdin	s/sigh/sign/	07:01
jaime	t1n03n what vid?	07:01
t1n0m3n	jaime: NVidia Quadro FX2500	07:01
t1n0m3n	jaime: NVidia Quadro FX2500m that is	07:02
Viper	G.Dit.... unblock maduser > Viper plz	07:02
t1n0m3n	jaime: Its a Dell Precision M90	07:02
Viper	or whatever that command is, as I can't reply to anyone's PM.	07:03
jaime	:)	07:03
jaime	i'm getting a sony for christmas	07:03
trillis	My adept doesnt want to load...	07:03
jaime	very nice indeed	07:03
jaime	but	07:03
stdin	Viper: you have to register, or just join your own channel like ##Viper	07:03
jaime	just searching around for a good linux os for it	07:03
jaime	i'll bring the specs	07:03
t1n0m3n	jaime: kk	07:04
jaime	the thing is its a intel card :(	07:04
Viper	erm... ok	07:04
Viper	##Viper	07:04
maduser	blocked?	07:04
t1n0m3n	jaime: like an 815 onboard video adapter?	07:04
stdin	!register	07:04
ubotu	By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration	07:04
jaime	anybody with something like this? http://www.amazon.com/Sony-VGN-FS640-Notebook-Processor-Centrino/dp/B0008EZBSE	07:04
Viper	Yeah, I suck at IRC... new to this still...	07:04
jaime	dunno	07:04
maduser	oh viper is not registered	07:05
trillis	k... No do I try and get the ndisgtk?	07:05
maduser	I freaked out for a second	07:05
Viper	mad, I'm in that channel he just typed, if you click on ##Viper I think you'll go there... maybe	07:05
maduser	viper just register	07:05
stdin	trillis: did you click the "apply" button after enabling all of them?	07:05
trillis	Yes.	07:05
Agent_bob	seems i'm for ever having trubble with the clock on these stupid computers	07:05
t1n0m3n	jaime: what video card does that use?	07:05
flaccid	ntpdate is good	07:05
stdin	trillis: ok, is adept still open or did you close it?	07:06
jaime	look at the link	07:06
jaime	http://www.amazon.com/Sony-VGN-FS640-Notebook-Processor-Centrino/dp/B0008EZBSE	07:06
trillis	I closed it, but then reopened it.	07:06
t1n0m3n	jaime: I am, but I cant find that paticualr spec	07:06
jaime	Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900	07:06
stdin	trillis: click the "Fetch Updates" button on the top row	07:06
jaime	See more technical details	07:07
trillis	holy crap	07:07
jaime	click on that	07:07
maduser	yo stdin would a remote destop connection or desktop sharing help	07:07
t1n0m3n	jaime: ahh, k	07:07
jaime	cum on	07:07
jaime	:P	07:07
maduser	we could do everything directly	07:07
stdin	maduser: possibly, but that's way against policy	07:07
trillis	Done (100%) is appearing aloottt....	07:07
stdin	trillis: yeah, it's updating it's package list	07:07
trillis	k	07:07
trillis	It brought me back to the main thing...	07:08
Viper	in IRC:: How do you change your nick?	07:08
trillis	With a bunch of things saying "Not installed"	07:08
t1n0m3n	jaime: what is the issue?	07:08
jaime	i want to know what hardware would i have trouble	07:08
jaime	also does ubuntu support that grahpic card? with full acceleration	07:08
jaime	without doing mods	07:09
stdin	trillis: in the search box type in "ndisgtk", it'll then filter and you'll see the package in the list. just right click and request install	07:09
stdin	trillis: then click apply	07:09
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intelikey	ooops	07:09
t1n0m3n	jaime: have you checked out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54544	07:09
intelikey	what am i missing here? http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d64dde806 if anyone knows...	07:09
trillis	Yay.	07:10
trillis	It's installing.	07:10
Viper	one min. mad, I'm figuring out how to change my nick...	07:10
maduser	installing does not mean it will work	07:10
stdin	Viper: /nick newnick	07:10
=== MyNameIsURL is now known as jalbert
Viper	oh.. that all?	07:11
maduser	i have that millions of times	07:11
=== Viper is now known as eVipere
eVipere	oooooh, I see ^_^	07:11
trillis	k	07:11
trillis	it finished installing	07:11
trillis	Now how can I install the inf file?	07:12
stdin	trillis: you should now see a new entry in KMenu > System called "Windows Wireless Drivers"	07:12
stdin	that's the tool you use	07:12
trillis	I saw that awhile ago...	07:13
stdin	it wasn't installed properly back then, but it is now	07:13
trillis	hm...	07:13
jaime	what other issue i need to look for	07:13
trillis	Why isn't it starting up?	07:14
jaime	is kubuntu easy to learn?	07:14
t1n0m3n	jaime: I think it is easier than most	07:14
eVipere	Yeah.... for the most part	07:14
intelikey	jaime no. you will spend more than 8 hours trying to learn it all.	07:15
maduser	not as easy as ubuntu	07:15
trillis	I clicked the wireless devices but nothing happened... :(	07:15
eVipere	Isn't it under something else?...	07:15
stdin	trillis: has it opened?	07:15
trillis	No.	07:15
stdin	trillis: just press Alt-F2 and put in "kdesu ndisgtk" then	07:15
jaime	hm	07:15
t1n0m3n	jaime: any linux is a mindset change from windows.... that is the hardest part	07:15
jaime	yea i suck on learning too	07:15
maduser	runing form the teminal	07:15
jaime	windows just work out of the box	07:15
jaime	installing driver so easy	07:16
jaime	is kubuntu meant for me?	07:16
maduser	is it?	07:16
jaime	i want one that is easy to config	07:16
jaime	dunno	07:16
intelikey	try it and see, you are the only one that can deside that.	07:16
jaime	man i'm running gentoo right now	07:16
trillis	yay	07:16
trillis	It opened.	07:16
jaime	sabayon linux	07:16
eVipere	Oh, I guess it is called "Windows Wireless Devices"...	07:16
jaime	works out of the box	07:16
jaime	ubuntu i cant get acceleration working on nvidia 6200	07:17
t1n0m3n	jaime: Not necessarily, there is a lot that even I take for granted about Windows, that is a complete reverse in linux	07:17
stdin	trillis: click "Install new driver" and locate the .inf file	07:17
=== videoeddie is now known as videoeddie_
jaime	dist like window, that works most hardware without needing to update drivers?	07:17
intelikey	so troll here often ?	07:18
jaime	in windows i'm crazy i love keeping up to date, same to driver and games patches and 3rd party application	07:18
trillis	It's not thinking at all...	07:18
t1n0m3n	intelikey: I think jaime has a valid ?	07:18
trillis	I selected the inf.	07:18
videoeddie_	asl	07:18
trillis	But it was directly from a CD>	07:18
videoeddie_	aasl	07:19
stdin	!ot \| videoeddie_	07:19
ubotu	videoeddie_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	07:19
t1n0m3n	jaime: however, I have spent a lot of time on windows and take for granted the methods used to make things work	07:19
trillis	I hit the install button and it doesn't do anything.	07:19
Lynoure	jaime: Linspire I think is the one that tries to be most Windows-like, but so far, I have had to update drivers way more often in Windows than Linux. But I did choose hardware with a thought.	07:19
stdin	trillis: does it show anything in the main window?	07:20
jaime	well windows is so easy to update	07:20
jaime	and work many things like linux	07:20
jaime	but linspire have their issue too	07:20
trillis	Currently Installed Windows Drivers: Is blank.	07:20
Lynoure	jaime: apt-get dist-upgrade is easy to me. :)	07:20
jaime	hm	07:20
mikeo	anyone have problems with their whole computer locking up (laptop) with kubuntu?	07:20
jaime	is kubuntu debian?	07:20
eVipere	yeah	07:21
intelikey	debian based	07:21
Lynoure	jaime: it's based on Debian.	07:21
stdin	trillis: did you click ok the inf and click "open"	07:21
mikeo	seems to be when opening lots of windows with compiz-fusion	07:21
eVipere	it's Debian + KDE + a commercial company.	07:21
mikeo	firefox or konqueror	07:21
trillis	Yes, then install.	07:21
t1n0m3n	jaime: yes, it is easy to update windows, but it is just as easy to update ubuntu... once you learn where all the tools are... it would work the same way if you were good in linux and were trying to learn windows	07:21
stdin	trillis: did you make sure to click the right inf file	07:21
trillis	Aah..	07:22
trillis	how do I tell which is the right one?	07:22
eVipere	You guess....	07:22
trillis	hah	07:22
eVipere	It should say hardware present if it's the right onw.	07:22
trillis	Looks like the autorun was.	07:22
trillis	Yeah	07:22
trillis	Thats what it says	07:22
eVipere	Ok, then I had to run a command to get it to recognize the change.	07:22
trillis	Now what?	07:23
eVipere	stdin, you'll probably have to correct on this.. but I think it was sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper	07:23
t1n0m3n	jaime: I think the hardest part of linux is trying to unlearn what windows has taught you	07:23
stdin	trillis: does it show anything in the main window?	07:23
trillis	Yeah	07:23
eVipere	followed by sudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper	07:23
trillis	"Autorun: Hardware present"	07:23
stdin	eVipere: the gui should do it for him	07:23
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jaime	yea	07:24
jaime	is there a channel of	07:24
jaime	that talk about different dist	07:24
eVipere	it doesn't....	07:24
eVipere	at least it didn't for me.	07:24
jaime	and speak everything about linux	07:24
intelikey	jaime ##linux maybe ?	07:24
jaime	?	07:24
stdin	eVipere: it will load it, just won't autoload at boot	07:24
t1n0m3n	jaime: for example, windows teaches that your harddrive is c: but that makes no sense in linux	07:24
jaime	good job intelikey	07:25
trillis	Er.. Now what?	07:25
intelikey	t1n0m3n if he's running gentoo i think he's past that stage...	07:25
stdin	trillis: ok you can close that and just do "sudo ndiswrapper -m" in konsole	07:25
t1n0m3n	just speaking in generic terms	07:25
eVipere	Didn't you just tellme that the GUI should handle that?....	07:25
trillis	modprobe config already contains alias directive?	07:26
stdin	eVipere: I said "it will load it, just won't autoload at boot" < "ndiswrapper -m" makes it autoload at boot	07:26
eVipere	oh.... my problem was that the kernel didn't see the new INF driver... that's why I had to do -r followed by -i	07:27
stdin	trillis: ok, try rebooting then, without the network cable in. see if it picks up the wireless net	07:27
intelikey	and his return seems to indicate that it's already done...	07:27
trillis	k	07:27
trillis	brb	07:27
t1n0m3n	jaime: one thing I will note though. linux seems to make you learn more about your system than windows does. You become more "in tune" with your computer than in windows. It seems to me that windows makes people a bit too far removed from the goings on of their hardware for my taste.	07:29
t1n0m3n	jaime: and with that comes a tad bit more complexity	07:31
intelikey	t1n0m3n yep. what i call the "think for them cause they are too dumb to do it themselves" syndrom	07:31
intelikey	and i hate to see linux moving in that dirrection.	07:31
intelikey	and i'm off topic.	07:31
mikeo	lol	07:32
intelikey	"why doesn't it just do it for me" </whine> >:\|	07:32
mikeo	is there a good online resource for practical bash scripting	07:32
intelikey	mikeo #bash	07:32
intelikey	see the topic	07:32
mikeo	do you guys know how to write scripts?	07:33
mikeo	and did it take you a long time to learn?	07:33
intelikey	yes and no	07:33
mikeo	cool	07:33
t1n0m3n	anyway, that is where I like ubuntu. not quite easy enough for the casual windows user, but accessible. and the complexity keeps coming the more you dig into it	07:33
stdin	if you can type commands in sequentially, you can make basic scripts script	07:33
eVipere	like ps -ax \| grep lagging_program	07:34
intelikey	echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\n# this is a test script. \n\necho "now running the test script"\nls -sh \n' > test_script.sh ;chmod 755 test_script.sh <<< mikeo	07:36
mikeo	like cat /dev/urandom	07:36
mikeo	are the \n's line breaks?	07:36
Daisuke_Ido	intelikey: haven't seen you around lately	07:36
intelikey	yep	07:36
mikeo	whats the s flag for ls?	07:37
intelikey	Daisuke_Ido haven't hung out here much lately	07:37
mikeo	i know h is human, but never used s before	07:37
intelikey	size	07:37
mikeo	and -e for echo?	07:37
intelikey	extended means inturpret the \* chars	07:38
t1n0m3n	anyone know how to make the ping command set the "do not fragment" flag?	07:38
mikeo	interesting	07:38
Daisuke_Ido	intelikey: i noticed, but good to see ya again	07:38
Daisuke_Ido	but for now, gotta sleep	07:39
intelikey	mikeo that's the most basic of scripting. stdin is considered a pro. if you need help and i'll be glad to answer what questions i can if i'm here. but for advanced bash questions #bash is the best bet.	07:39
intelikey	Daisuke_Ido peace bro	07:40
Daisuke_Ido	the missus is dragging me out of bed in 5 hours to go get cookies	07:40
* intelikey looks up code word "get cookie"		07:40
intelikey	heh ok. have fun.	07:40
intelikey	:)	07:40
trillis	arg...	07:41
eVipere	!cookies	07:41
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about cookies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	07:41
eVipere	sorry intelikey... no help here...	07:41
Daisuke_Ido	no, real cookies. two of the churches have their annual bake sale on the first saturday in december... unfortunately that's today	07:41
trillis	It didn't work :(	07:42
Daisuke_Ido	and now, gnight	07:42
t1n0m3n	hmm, weird "ping -M dont -s 1300 www.google.com"	07:42
intelikey	oh ok. well i always liked it when the missus would mention cookies and bed in the same sentance :)	07:42
eVipere	trillis: windows wireless devices shows that it's present, right?	07:43
trillis	If I could open that >.<	07:43
trillis	It doesn't like to pop up.	07:43
t1n0m3n	the flag "-M dont" is equal to the windows "-f" flag?	07:43
stdin	t1n0m3n: "man ping" and see	07:43
trillis	whats the run command?	07:44
eVipere	what does kdesu ndisgtk reveal?	07:44
trillis	sudo ndistkg?	07:44
trillis	damn	07:44
trillis	Autorun: Hardware Present: No.	07:44
t1n0m3n	stdin: man is rather cryptic in this regard	07:45
trillis	Should I plug in the usb adapter?	07:45
eVipere	yeah....	07:45
trillis	heheh	07:45
trillis	k	07:46
trillis	The adapter should be blinking, but its not	07:46
eVipere	That's ok, for right now... does it show hardware presnt?	07:46
trillis	nope	07:47
eVipere	can you open the ndisgtk app even?	07:47
trillis	yeah	07:47
trillis	The Wireless networkd driver gui?	07:47
eVipere	Ok... go back to terminal and.... dmesg \| grep ndis	07:47
t1n0m3n	ok, my MTU is 1072 using -M dont what the h3ll!?	07:47
trillis	whoah.	07:48
t1n0m3n	do I subtract the normal 28 bytes to get true MTU then?	07:48
trillis	Now what?	07:48
eVipere	Open a new PM to me or stdin and paste what you get so you don't flood the channel..	07:49
stdin	!paste	07:49
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	07:49
trillis	Can't.	07:49
trillis	Says something about spam.	07:49
eVipere	ah... that issue... lol	07:49
eVipere	Ok, or use pastbin as per stdin...	07:49
intelikey	http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/pastebin.php	07:50
intelikey	try that one.	07:50
trillis	cyntax?	07:50
asm	hi	07:50
eVipere	trillis: The spam thing is because you didn't do /msg nickserv register command....	07:50
stdin	trillis: just post the text in and click send	07:50
trillis	In here?	07:51
asm	i ve a question about how to make kubuntu in 3 d desktop	07:51
asm	any help	07:51
t1n0m3n	lol, sorry self inflicted wounds here, I set my mtu to 1100 (1100 - 28 = 1072)	07:51
stdin	trillis: no, on the pastebin site	07:51
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eVipere	paste the URL of the pastebin, not the content.	07:51
trillis	k	07:51
trillis	posted	07:51
stdin	now post the address back	07:51
trillis	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46408/	07:52
eVipere	stdin:: all up to you on that post... something looks astray with ndis...	07:53
stdin	trillis: try posting the output of "grep 'loadndisdriver' /var/log/syslog" to pastebin	07:53
trillis	k	07:53
eVipere	well, I'm guessing it'll be # 46409 once he gets it posted....	07:55
trillis	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46409/	07:56
trillis	heheh	07:56
trillis	Jesus...	07:56
trillis	I've been at this for 6 hours...	07:56
trillis	er...	07:56
trillis	7	07:56
eVipere	as per the config file, I'm guessing that you may need to reinstall windows drivers.....	07:57
trillis	It's on a cd though.	07:57
eVipere	You had a .INF and the .SYS files there?	07:57
trillis	Yeah	07:57
stdin	what's on a cd?	07:57
eVipere	preferebly for an XP machine of the same arch.	07:57
trillis	yeah	07:57
eVipere	Then try a 2000 driver.	07:57
trillis	I tried, but the only one that apears in the window of the wireless drivers is the autorun inf file.	07:58
eVipere	one sec, let me fish around dlink's website for a second...	07:58
trillis	k	07:58
eVipere	and just a quickie.. uname -a reveals what on your system?	08:00
trillis	Linux 2056 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux	08:01
eVipere	Ok perfect, standard XP drivers should work fine	08:01
trillis	damn	08:03
trillis	I can't find my cdrom directory...	08:03
eVipere	Your little device is an 802.11N card?....	08:03
trillis	Sounds write.	08:04
trillis	right*	08:04
t1n0m3n	ok, I have ruled out MTU as being my culprit on my slow internet downloads. Using the "ping -M dont" I have verified that my laptop is in fact being limited by my DSL to 1492 and I have set me MTU to 1491 and I get the max 7.2MBps download rate. Weird thing is, that if I set my MTU to 1100 or so, my max download rate drops considerably. Which makes no sense to me.	08:04
t1n0m3n	yet another potential issue eliminated	08:05
trillis	The inf file that seems to work is the Autorun.	08:07
trillis	hm... I wonder..	08:07
eVipere	no... whatever your thinking.... no	08:08
trillis	Oh :(	08:08
trillis	LOL	08:08
trillis	It worked.	08:09
eVipere	what did?	08:09
trillis	Kinda I suppose.	08:09
trillis	There were three inf files there.	08:09
trillis	one for win 2000, xp, and the autorun.	08:09
eVipere	and you loaded up the XP one?....	08:09
trillis	I just copy the inf winxp from the cd to the desktop and it showed up on the wireless driver	08:10
trillis	yeah	08:10
trillis	but it still says no hardware	08:10
trillis	But it could be that I'm using my ethernet right now.	08:10
eVipere	No, it's not... I'm looking at extracting the required inf from the drivers now......	08:10
trillis	Theres sime lights on in the back of my computer I didn't see before...	08:11
trillis	heheh	08:11
import	hey guys love your system need a hand though i have to get a patch and the url says to do something like this get http://patches.aircrack-ng.org/madwifi-ng-r1679.patch	08:11
trillis	Just my imagination.	08:11
import	but the problem is get isnt a reconised	08:11
import	function	08:12
eVipere	trillis, do you still have winxp installed that used to use that device?	08:12
* trillis is retarded when it comes to linux		08:12
trillis	No.	08:12
intelikey	import wget ?	08:12
trillis	Winxp never touched that device	08:12
import	i tried to apt-get install get but it dint work	08:13
import	oh maybe	08:13
import	let me try thanks intelikey let you know if it works	08:13
import	your the man	08:13
import	:)	08:13
import	or women what ever it may be	08:14
eVipere	GAH! I can get a file count of this blasted .cab, but I can't extract the data :(	08:14
eVipere	trillis, want to try extracting some cab files on *nix, I think since you have a 32-bit OS it may work for ya....	08:15
trillis	Sure, how?	08:15
eVipere	first, you need a couple applications... sudo apt-get install cabextract unshield	08:16
intelikey	import if that's the only problem you ever have with linux, you are the man. or woman... or irc robot or what ever...	08:16
intelikey	!botsnack \| import	08:17
ubotu	import: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!	08:17
surgy	how do i get and install new splash screens? other than the ones that came with kubuntu?	08:18
trillis	k	08:18
trillis	got it	08:18
import	:)	08:19
trillis	Can linux get viruses?	08:20
import	intelikey no i have had alot of problems but i learned to work with them	08:20
import	lol	08:20
* trillis ez nub		08:20
eVipere	No.. that's the driver I downloaded from dlink's site.	08:20
import	nope	08:20
trillis	hehehe	08:20
import	trillis its not worth it	08:20
import	maybe a worm	08:20
eVipere	lol	08:20
trillis	What happened?	08:21
import	but thats really a blue moon	08:21
eVipere	Did you get a file send request, or whatever popped up trillis?	08:21
trillis	I did, and I accepted.	08:22
import	trillis no viruses only wincrap has viruses i have seen some but the market is majority windows so people make mostly .exe bs	08:22
trillis	But it failed.	08:22
eVipere	Hmm.. ok...	08:22
eVipere	Oh.. lol, my fault	08:22
trillis	I'm beginning to like linux actually...	08:22
mikeo	why use irc when you can use metasploit?	08:22
trillis	It's like a puzzle.	08:22
eVipere	one sec, let me disable the fw for ya for a bit...	08:22
import	but on the other hand you can still be hacked if you have your ports open just close them up and kick back an laugh awhile	08:22
trillis	kk	08:22
import	trillis watch out for ssh	08:22
trillis	ssh?	08:23
mikeo	secure shell	08:23
import	yep	08:23
eVipere	^_^	08:23
mikeo	port 22	08:23
import	:)	08:23
trillis	why?	08:23
eVipere	Once someone gets ssh access, they have unlimited control of your system.	08:23
intelikey	if you don't run sshd you don't have to worry about it.	08:23
trillis	:(	08:23
mikeo	if they get root ssh	08:23
import	trillis if you had a ssh running on your pc i could connect to it through port 22 default	08:23
mikeo	if you knew his pw	08:23
import	then run some brute force crap to get your root and pass	08:24
mikeo	and if nat was open	08:24
import	then i could play god for a little while	08:24
trillis	root?	08:24
mikeo	should lock you out after 3 failed attempts	08:24
import	but dont worry about it	08:24
eVipere	and don't worry trill, your're port 22 is safe, I checked ^_^	08:24
import	mikeo if they set it up like that	08:24
trillis	hehehe	08:24
trillis	Yaay	08:24
import	default on suse is crap :)	08:24
mikeo	i think its that way by default	08:24
mikeo	this is kubuntu lol	08:24
trillis	0kbps... Nice.	08:24
intelikey	!virus \| trillis before they scare you with unbounded facts read this link	08:24
mikeo	ditch the lizard	08:24
ubotu	trillis before they scare you with unbounded facts read this link: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21	08:24
mikeo	get a dragon	08:24
import	mikeo now i could make a script to run a sleep command for the interval that the system kicks me then retry again	08:25
import	but thats another story	08:25
mikeo	i think it would take a very long time	08:25
import	sure would	08:25
import	but very possibl	08:25
eVipere	Hmm trill, I don't think file transfer likes IRC... I'll dig up the URl for ya from dlink.....	08:25
import	*possible	08:25
mikeo	impractical	08:25
mikeo	unless his password was password	08:26
mikeo	or a word in a word list	08:26
import	there is another way but i dont want to discuss it	08:26
trillis	Sounds good	08:26
import	trillis you should be fine	08:26
mikeo	rainbow tables?	08:26
import	kubuntu is secure enough	08:26
import	if its not have someone tell you about nmap	08:26
eVipere	trillis: ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwa130/Drivers/dwa130_BETA_drivers_120.zip	08:27
mikeo	lol you know nvidia cuda pw cracking is like 25x faster than a fast cpu	08:27
trillis	oh	08:27
mikeo	nmap -sX -P0 -sV etc...	08:27
import	:)	08:27
trillis	Is there anyway to change my resolution?	08:27
mikeo	light you up like a christmas tree	08:27
import	mikeo has been around a block	08:27
import	or two	08:27
eVipere	Hmm, I'll have to try that one... using the GPU for it.	08:27
* mikeo is just a college student		08:28
* trillis is too		08:28
eVipere	Anyone who knows the x-mas command off the top of their head evidently has some experience...	08:28
mikeo	hahaha	08:28
mikeo	theory but not expierence	08:28
import	same	08:28
mikeo	taken a few security classes	08:28
trillis	su x-maxjuice2all %$ ?	08:28
mikeo	ever use core impact?	08:28
eVipere	In this world, you can't have theory without experience first!	08:28
trillis	x-mas*	08:28
import	nope	08:28
trillis	Damn zip?	08:28
trillis	Oh shit.	08:29
mikeo	its weak	08:29
eVipere	oh yeah.. LOL	08:29
eVipere	sudo apt-get installl zip unzip	08:29
import	mikeo whats core impact?	08:29
mikeo	costs like 20k or something	08:29
import	omg	08:29
trillis	it opened automaticallyl for me.	08:29
mikeo	a tool released by a savis for pen testing	08:29
mikeo	our school got a free box with it for testing purposes	08:29
import	sounds like crap	08:29
eVipere	pen testing...???	08:29
mikeo	has some nice features but never up to date	08:29
mikeo	works great on unpatched win2000 boxes lol	08:30
mikeo	i mean even metasploit works on default sever