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t4m1n0	how can I print ppt document so there is more than one slide on a list ?	00:00
mks	joo this is in ingles	00:00
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skyfalcon866	how do i get 3d effects in kubuntu	00:00
ardchoille	!es \| mks	00:00
ubotu	mks: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.	00:00
mks	ok gracias ;)	00:01
ardchoille	skyfalcon866: You can use the composite manager included with kde or you can use compiz-fusion	00:01
skyfalcon866	whats better	00:01
ardchoille	!compiz \| skyfalcon866	00:01
ubotu	skyfalcon866: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	00:01
ardchoille	skyfalcon866: Only you can answer that. I like kcompmgr and dislike compiz	00:02
skyfalcon866	can you zoom in	00:02
skyfalcon866	in kcompmgr	00:02
skyfalcon866	!kcompmgr	00:03
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kcompmgr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:03
ardchoille	Sorry, it's kompmgr	00:04
Xero	!kompmgr	00:04
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kompmgr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:04
Xero	well crap	00:04
muimota__	I've been looking /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages and I haven't found anything helpfull	00:04
ardchoille	muimota__: Would you know it if you found it?	00:05
Radi01	!info kompmgr	00:06
ubotu	Package kompmgr does not exist in gutsy	00:06
ardchoille	Radi01: It's part of kde, it's not a package	00:06
Radi01	oh	00:06
muimota__	well I was looking for some kind of !error or somthng like taht I just have found a wrnig related with dhcp	00:06
ardchoille	muimota__: You can do things like: grep fail /var/log/syslog	00:07
skyfalcon866	is ubuntu faster than kubuntu	00:08
Xero	skyfalcon866, GNOME is slightly lighter than KDE, but that doesn't make it better or faster.	00:09
muimota__	ok, thanks ardchoille	00:10
ardchoille	Learning the command line has its advantages :)	00:10
muimota__	ardchoille:http://pastebin.ca/803986	00:12
ardchoille	muimota__: You have a USB hard drive?	00:14
Xero	My BIOS has problems with those.	00:14
Xero	Makes me think I've bricked my PC.	00:14
Xero	Oh noes. A r00t	00:15
draik	Aaahhhh... The joys of having nobody call.	00:15
muimota__	yes but right now it's not plugged in	00:15
Radi01	lol draik dsl ok today?	00:15
Xero	Does anyone recommend flashing a new BIOS to this computer?	00:15
ardchoille	muimota__: Is this a laptop?	00:16
Xero	If so, what's a tool for doing it on Linux?	00:16
draik	Radi01: I have learned to just laugh like a maniac when somone calls, if that counts.	00:16
Radi01	haha	00:16
muimota__	ardchoille: no is a P4 1,7ghz 512Mb desktop computer	00:16
draik	ardchoille: I left our channel	00:16
ardchoille	draik: ok	00:16
Radi01	i just put the (you have dialed an un asigned number) on my answering machine.	00:17
ardchoille	muimota__: Have you tried adding acpi=off to the kernel line of /boot/grub/menu.lst ?	00:17
muimota__	no, I'll do it right now	00:17
muimota__	acpi is for power saving no?	00:17
draik	Ok? Now my cell phone just restarted at random.	00:17
ardchoille	muimota__: What's happening is you are experiencing a hardware problem. Have you changed/added/remove hardware lately?	00:18
draik	I hope that's not the new sign of a call coming into the house	00:18
ardchoille	muimota__: It's some laptop features	00:18
* ardchoille calls draik		00:18
ardchoille	:P	00:18
muimota__	ardchoille:no, I haven't the computer worked really well till around Friday	00:19
* draik has ardchoille in the crosshairs of his scope		00:19
ardchoille	Eek!	00:19
ardchoille	muimota__: Change anything around Friday?	00:19
draik	Well, I'm going to logoff Konversation and return this half of the bit (yes bit, not byte) of data transfers.	00:20
Radi01	lol	00:21
muimota__	ardchoille no I haven't may an upgrade from kubuntu, all the software comes from kubuntu's repositories	00:21
kendall	Hi. Kubuntu n00b here. When I get the error message "no plugin found to handle this resource (dvd://)", where can I go to get the plugin I need?	00:24
Radi01	playing dvd?	00:24
benpicco	kendall: you prophaly need libdvdcss	00:24
kendall	trying to, yes.	00:24
Radi01	^	00:25
Radi01	midibuntu	00:25
kendall	ok, and where do I find that?	00:25
Radi01	or what ver its called	00:25
GrahamA	kendall: I assume it's a comercial encrypted DVD	00:25
kendall	is it on my kubuntuinstall disc?	00:25
ardchoille	!medibuntu	00:25
ubotu	medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org	00:25
GrahamA	kendall: I have the .deb lemme find the link	00:25
kendall	no, burned it myself	00:25
GrahamA	Don't use medibuntu because it's horrificly slow.	00:25
kendall	in winxp	00:25
ardchoille	GrahamA: medibuntu is quite fast for me.	00:26
kendall	Kaffeine Player	00:26
GrahamA	Have you installed the kubuntu-restricted extras package	00:26
GrahamA	ardchoille: You from the US?	00:26
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benpicco	try adding deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list	00:26
GrahamA	kendall: Install that and libdvdread	00:26
kendall	I just let it install all oon its own, GrahamA	00:26
GrahamA	kendall: I don't mean as an option on first install, I mean go into adept and do it.	00:26
GrahamA	ardchoille: I'm from the UK so maybe why but I only get about 20kbs from it.	00:27
kendall	ok, remember, I'm a total n00b. just booted about 5 minutes ago, for the first time from the HD.	00:27
kendall	lemme go try ad find it	00:27
GrahamA	kendall: k menu, system, adept manager	00:28
kendall	yeah, found it	00:28
GrahamA	Wonderful.	00:29
Kr4t05	I need a GUI app that can convert m4a files to MP3.	00:29
ardchoille	GrahamA: Ah,ok	00:29
GrahamA	Kr4t05: Consider Konvertor	00:29
GrahamA	I think...	00:29
GrahamA	lemme check.	00:29
GrahamA	Kr4t05: soundkonvertor	00:30
GrahamA	You need to install some backends too.	00:30
Kr4t05	Thanks	00:31
GrahamA	Kr4t05: And consider converting them to ogg vorbis instead :)	00:31
Kr4t05	GrahamA: Can't... :/	00:31
kendall	ok, GrahamA, got adept open, and looking for the kubuntu-restricted extras package you mentioned, but don't see it on the list	00:31
LjL	converting a comrpessed format to a compressed format? ugh	00:31
GrahamA	Kr4t05: Is it for a music player or something?	00:31
Kr4t05	Amarok, for some reason, bugs out when I try to sync oggs to my DAP.	00:31
Kr4t05	GrahamA: Yeah.	00:31
Kr4t05	Well, at the moment, I'm making backups.	00:31
GrahamA	becacse it's called kubuntu-restricted-extras	00:31
GrahamA	Kr4t05: What music player do you have?	00:32
GrahamA	Does it actually support .ogg or won't amarok copy them over?	00:32
Kr4t05	iAudio F2, and yes, I know it plays Oggs.	00:32
Kr4t05	Amarok just won't copy them over.	00:32
Kr4t05	It's a bug in the current build, I think.	00:32
GrahamA	Kr4t05: How much space is it, is it good quality, price and would you recommend it?	00:33
kendall	nothing on the list called kububtu-restricted-extras, or anything even remotely like it. let me look around some more.	00:33
GrahamA	kendall: You realise you can just type kubuntu into the search box and it'll show up in a much smaller list?	00:34
kendall	do I need to "fetch updates"?	00:34
GrahamA	Yes you do.	00:34
kendall	ah, no, I hadn't figured that out, yet, thanks	00:34
Kr4t05	F2 comes in two (three?) sizes, 2GB,4GB(8GB), Fairly decent player for under $200, has a photo and text view, and also has builtin mic and line-in recording.	00:34
ardchoille	kendall: Updates is something you should check for and install on a daily basis.	00:34
kendall	ok, I'll fetch away....	00:34
kendall	daily?	00:34
Kr4t05	GrahamA: Check Cowon's site.	00:34
kendall	oh my.	00:34
kendall	heehee	00:34
GrahamA	No just when you're getting packages.	00:35
GrahamA	Adept notifier automaticly does a check for upgradeable packages.	00:35
ardchoille	Updates is something you should check for and install on a daily basis.	00:35
GrahamA	It'll probably pop up after you check.	00:35
GrahamA	Kr4t05: Could you link me please?	00:35
ardchoille	GrahamA: I don't trust adept. it never shows updates until I manually do: sudo apt-get update	00:35
Kr4t05	Adept Notifier bugs out when I run compiz.	00:35
ardchoille	Then it pops up telling me there are updates	00:36
ardchoille	But, by then I already know about them.	00:36
GrahamA	ardchoille: That's odd...	00:36
GrahamA	Works for me.	00:36
Kr4t05	http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/iaudio/f2/ -- Has video support, but the transcode method is a bit obscure. I have to write a script for it using snippets from various forums.	00:37
kendall	ok, I fetched, still no kubuntu-restricted anything on the list.....	00:37
Kr4t05	GrahamA: A decent player, though.	00:37
ardchoille	kendall: Whic release of kubuntu are you using?	00:37
kendall	7.04	00:38
Kr4t05	To be honest... And this may get me skinned, but I kinda wish someone would hack up support for Zunes in the near future. :/	00:38
ardchoille	!info kubuntu-restricted-extras Feisty	00:38
ubotu	Package kubuntu-restricted-extras does not exist in feisty	00:38
ardchoille	kendall: ^^ :)	00:38
ardchoille	That's why	00:38
Kr4t05	They look... decent, even for a Microsoft product.	00:38
kendall	ok	00:38
kendall	so, do I need to acquire that?	00:39
Radi01	time for 7.10	00:39
benpicco	you could upgrade to 7.10	00:39
ardchoille	kendall: My advice is to upgrade to Gutsy or simply do without restricted extras. What exactly are you trying to do?	00:39
kendall	shouldn't 7.04 be able to play a DVD?	00:39
Radi01	geter done.	00:39
kendall	well, for one, play a DVD, just as a test	00:39
ardchoille	kendall: It can, I have been watching dvd's in kubuntu since Dapper	00:39
ardchoille	kendall: You need to install some things..	00:40
Radi01	vlc does	00:40
kendall	7.04 is "Feisty", then?	00:40
kendall	ok, how do I know what to install, ardchoille?	00:40
ardchoille	kendall: Yes, Feisty	00:40
ardchoille	kendall: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg libdvdread3 libdvdnav4	00:41
kendall	eek!	00:41
Radi01	lol	00:41
kendall	remember, total n00b	00:41
ardchoille	kendall: You will also need libdvdcss2 but it's only available from the medibuntu repo, you need to use medibuntu	00:41
GrahamA	kendall: You're on feisty?	00:41
kendall	yes	00:41
GrahamA	Install ubuntu-restricted-extras	00:41
kendall	there aren't any	00:42
Kr4t05	GrahamA: Bearing in mind, the software that comes with that DAP is Windows-only and bad quality at that.	00:42
GrahamA	DAP?	00:42
rose	nick marie1116	00:42
Kr4t05	GrahamA: MP3 Player	00:42
GrahamA	Kr4t05: Eventually I'll get round to finding a Linux compatible non-Aplle MUSIC player.	00:42
ardchoille	kendall: Open a terminal and do: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs libdvdread3 libdvdnav4	00:42
kendall	ardchoille: , where do I enter that command, in adept?	00:43
Kr4t05	GrahamA: Cowon and Archos are as good as you get, really.	00:43
ardchoille	!medibuntu \| kendall	00:43
ubotu	kendall: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org	00:43
Kr4t05	Sansa's are okay, too, but they lack a good bit.	00:43
ardchoille	kendall: No, "open a terminal.."	00:43
kendall	ah, thanks	00:43
GrahamA	kendall: Do what ardchoille said and it'll work.	00:43
benpicco	kendall: try sudo echo deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free > /etc/apt/sources.list	00:43
Radi01	cowen is a good player?	00:43
kendall	ok, but where do I type in the command?	00:43
Radi01	cowon	00:43
kendall	ah	00:43
kendall	terminal	00:43
kendall	ok, lemme give it a go	00:44
ardchoille	benpicco: First of all, that will fail, sudo doesn't handle redirection like that, Secondly, he also needs the medibuntu repo key	00:44
Kr4t05	Radi01: Cowon is a company that makes media players. They're good players that boast "Linux support."	00:44
Kr4t05	Even if it's an afterthough.	00:44
ardchoille	mplayer is the best, IMHO	00:44
Kr4t05	afterthought*	00:44
Radi01	ah which ones are good in kde besides Amarok	00:44
Kr4t05	ardchoille: We're talking hardware players, portable devices.	00:45
ardchoille	Kr4t05: Ah, ok	00:45
Radi01	Amarok chokes too much.	00:45
GrahamA	Amarok is hands down the best music player I've ever used.	00:45
Kr4t05	Radi01: Um? I'm talking about MP3 players.	00:45
GrahamA	Winamp barely holds a candle to it.	00:45
Radi01	ya	00:45
Kr4t05	Radi01: You could try JuK	00:45
Radi01	oh ok	00:45
Kr4t05	Or, maybe Exaile, but it's GTK.	00:46
ardchoille	kendall: Let me know if you need further help :)	00:46
Radi01	winamp stunk..aol took over.	00:46
Kr4t05	Songbird is still prerelease, but it's coming along.	00:46
ardchoille	Radi01: lol	00:46
Radi01	snickers.	00:46
ardchoille	Wow, the mozilla team really had "bird" brains, lol	00:46
ardchoille	Firebird, Thunderbird, Songbird I wonder what the calendar will be named.	00:47
Lunar_Lamp_	I'm following the instructions at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php - it has information for kdm, but I use gdm at the moment. How can I configure GDM to start the KDE4 session, so I don't need to replace GDM?	00:47
Radi01	afterbird	00:47
Dragnslcr	ardchoille- Sunbird	00:47
ardchoille	hahaha	00:47
ardchoille	Dragnslcr: Ah, figures	00:47
Dragnslcr	At least that's the client, I think. Dunno if they'd name a server something else	00:48
somekool	Lunar_Lamp_: let me know if you get it to work.... I had missing packages here, I could not complete the install	00:48
ardchoille	They should release a suite with all the *bird apps and call it Nest	00:48
ardchoille	Get it.. nest?	00:48
Dragnslcr	Hehe	00:48
Radi01	ya	00:48
* ardchoille giggles		00:48
Lunar_Lamp_	somekool, well, the install seems to be working ok, but I'm using kdm I decided.	00:49
Lunar_Lamp_	Hmm, somekool, yes kdm-kde4 seems to have issues	00:51
ardchoille	Of course it does, it's an rc.. yo should expect lots of issues	00:52
Lunar_Lamp_	Not with being missing, but with being configured.	00:52
Lunar_Lamp_	ardchoille, I was agreeing with somekool that a package has an issue. Don't get all defensive...	00:52
Lunar_Lamp_	I'm now about to attempt to track down what's causing the issue	00:53
ardchoille	hehe, defensive	00:53
Radi01	lunar it was an explanation..was not hostile at all..calm down buddy.	00:53
Lunar_Lamp_	Hmm, sorry, perhaps I just misinterpreted.	00:54
Radi01	we are all learning this stuff..that happens..	00:55
somekool	I was not talking about software issues in KDE4, but packaging issues with the deb files, packages were missing or something ...	00:55
ardchoille	Most of what I learned about kubuntu was leanred right here i this channel by watching others. This channel rocks!	00:55
ardchoille	Too bad I never learned how to type, lol	00:56
see-g	hi ... without knowing too much about kubuntu 7.10's history, I've got a strange behavior here: After installing Kubuntu from the desktop-CD, the installation of GRUB to hd3 (changed from default: hd0) failed. When booting from the CD again, without changing any settings, I end up in a busybox...	00:56
Radi01	I would rather learn linux than support buddy bill....any day.	00:56
Lunar_Lamp_	somekool, yes, I don't have that issue, but there are problems (it appears) with the packaging of kdm-kde4 as the configure doesn't appear to work :-)	00:56
ardchoille	Radi01: Indeed	00:56
nosrednaekim	Lunar_Lamp_: you don't need that package.... and it seems to conflict with the normal kdm. and kubuntu depends on kdm.	00:56
Radi01	Think of all the money I wasted..wow.	00:56
nosrednaekim	and thats not good	00:56
nosrednaekim	BBIAB	00:57
Lunar_Lamp_	nosrednaekim, I don't have kde installed ;-)	00:57
Lunar_Lamp_	(er, that is, normal kde - I have gnome from default ubuntu - I'm not coming from a kubuntu install)	00:57
somekool	I am currently building my first .deb file and I am having little troubles. well, actually, I've went through all the necessary steps as far as the howto I followed is concerned. but the process gets interrupted because of linking errors ??? but it compiles with a regular ./configure;make .... is there -l flags to add somewhere? why I am getting linking errors like that? I've put all the necessary dependencies in control	00:58
ardchoille	somekool: Tis may be a dumb question, but do you have all the necessary deps installed on your system?	00:58
somekool	ardchoille: yes, cuz it compiles fine with a regular ./configure;make , like I said.	00:59
ardchoille	A	00:59
ardchoille	h	00:59
somekool	and I had put all the depends in the control file	01:00
somekool	it says not to modify the rules file for a regular compile	01:00
somekool	i dont know why I am getting all these linking errors ... ??	01:00
ardchoille	http://www.daniweb.com/blogs/entry1862.html	01:03
ardchoille	[Hardy Heron fixes existing features]	01:04
somekool	I followed this	01:05
somekool	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003	01:05
somekool	anyone would know why am I getting those linking errors?	01:05
joey722	i tried to execute fop from php to generate pdf...... i used exec and system with no result... i found this article in french in wich they give a function to call fop as external program... i don't know how to make it work...please can you help me on that	01:06
joey722	http://www.infos-du-net.com/forum/263940-21-creation-fichier-avec#t101162	01:06
kendall	ok, GrahamA and ardchoille, I'm wandering around looking for libdvdcss, and I've gome to the vlc website. Would it be easier to just get the vlc player and install that?	01:07
posingaspopular	kendall: vls is great for playing all sorts of codecs	01:07
kendall	ok, so, yes?	01:08
posingaspopular	yes	01:08
kendall	thanks	01:08
posingaspopular	np	01:08
crackhead_25_	can anyone help me get my lacie external hard drive mounting in kubuntu? it was automounting fine last week. now it doesn't recognize. i'm sure there's data on it, though.	01:08
LjL	kendall, i'm under the impression that you're considering downloading VLC from the site, but VLC is available from the repositories (universe, specifically), you can install it with just « sudo apt-get install vlc »	01:08
ardchoille	kendall: Yes, try out vlc, it's quite nice.	01:09
kendall	ah, ok, I'll try that, thank you, LjL	01:09
kendall	thanks ardchoille. I'll get the hang of this yet....	01:09
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GrahamA	I like Kaffeine better but whatever.	01:10
ardchoille	kendall: If you find you still need to install libdvdcss2 and need a hand, I can help with medibuntu	01:10
GrahamA	I'm gona go sleep.	01:10
ardchoille	GrahamA: vlc is nice, but I can't use it.. it doesn't support closed captions. Everyone has their favourite :)	01:10
kendall	E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)	01:11
kendall	E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?	01:11
kendall	perhaps I'm doing it wrong.....	01:11
ardchoille	kendall: Close any other pm's that are open	01:11
kendall	ok	01:11
ardchoille	kendall: adept, synaptic, aptitude, etc are all front-ends to APT.. and only one of them can use the apt db at a time	01:12
kendall	ok, it seems to be installing, now	01:15
ardchoille	kendall: What is installing"	01:15
ardchoille	?	01:15
kendall	ardchoille: , vlc player	01:17
ardchoille	ok	01:17
Radi01	nice you will like it kendall	01:17
kendall	thanks	01:17
Radi01	plays most everything out of the box.	01:17
kendall	good	01:17
Radi01	Use that till you get to know the rest of player codec.	01:18
kendall	my eventual plan is to have this box as a home entertainment media server/DVR	01:18
kendall	got a lot of learning to do, though.....	01:18
ardchoille	kendall: That's what I did with one of my computers.	01:18
Kasplatt	what is the difference between the CD .iso and the .DVD iso ?	01:18
kendall	nice	01:18
kendall	....and it'll be networked	01:19
nosrednaekim	Kasplatt: the DVD has more packages on it.	01:19
ardchoille	Kasplatt: The dvd iso is a compilation of the desktop and alternate cd's	01:19
kendall	transfer iso images over the network, play them from the HD	01:19
Kasplatt	ah okay , so the DVD is better ?	01:19
nosrednaekim	ardchoille: I think it has more than that...	01:19
ardchoille	nosrednaekim: Not according to the ubuntu article I read	01:19
Kasplatt	or just filled with crap ?	01:19
ardchoille	But, the article could have been wrong.	01:20
nosrednaekim	Kasplatt: prettymuch :D	01:20
Radi01	lo, its not a windows cd	01:20
Kasplatt	nosrednaekim better :P ?	01:20
nosrednaekim	Kasplatt: i'd get the cd and insta;; what you need from there	01:20
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Kasplatt	ah okay hehe ;)	01:20
ardchoille	Kasplatt: Anything on the dvd will also be in ther repos anyway	01:20
Kasplatt	okay :)	01:20
nosrednaekim	ardchoille: it was my understanding that the DVD had a lot of extra packages... but I may be wrong.	01:21
Kasplatt	you don't have a mirror for Faroe Islands for kubuntu ?? I remember xubuntu had ..	01:21
ardchoille	nosrednaekim: no biggie, it's all in the repos :)	01:21
nosrednaekim	Kasplatt: if xubuntu did, yes, Kubuntu does.	01:21
Kasplatt	I can't find it ...	01:21
nosrednaekim	Kasplatt: hrm.... I think I read an article about you guys in the faroe islands on Linux.com	01:22
ardchoille	nosrednaekim: What they should release, IMHO, is a very small net install cd.. something like 100Mb just to get the system running and install the rest from the repos. But I guess that would increase the load on the repo servers.	01:22
nosrednaekim	ardchoille: yeah, they don't want to do that.,,,, esp around a release date XD	01:22
Radi01	yua	01:22
Kasplatt	nosrednaekim what did it say ?	01:22
ardchoille	nosrednaekim: Ah, right	01:22
NickPresta	Any idea about the "no buffer space available" message when trying to resume a disk image after an expected power failure?	01:23
scrubb2000	Could someone tell me what the console command is to check which groups a user belongs to?	01:23
nosrednaekim	Kasplatt: something about your whole system is linux, and you have only satelite internet	01:23
Kasplatt	our whole system ??	01:23
ardchoille	scrubb2000: cat /etc/groups \| grep <username_here>	01:23
ardchoille	Oops, that's /etc/group	01:24
nosrednaekim	Kasplatt: maybe it wasn't the Faroe Islands... never mind :D	01:24
scrubb2000	ardchoille: "No such file or directory"....	01:25
Kasplatt	cant find the faroese mirrors ..	01:25
Kasplatt	nosrednaekim hehe okay	01:25
ardchoille	scrubb2000: cat /etc/group \| grep <username_here>	01:25
Kasplatt	nosrednaekim is there any difference in any of the distros for each mirror ?	01:26
Radi01	I often wondered that.	01:26
kendall	hm.	01:27
nosrednaekim	Kasplatt: shouldn't be... if its an official ubuntu mirror it'll have everything/.	01:27
Kasplatt	okay	01:27
nosrednaekim	ah... it was "New Caldonia "lol	01:27
kendall	do I need to reboot after installing vlc? I tried to start it up, and it dumped me completely out of the desktop and restarted.....	01:27
Kasplatt	kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso for normal pcs . .right ?	01:28
ardchoille	kendall: Shouldn't need a reboot for that, no	01:28
nosrednaekim	Kasplatt: yup	01:28
kendall	hm.	01:28
Kasplatt	k	01:28
kendall	ok, well I'm installing updates now, so I won't chance starting vlc 'til I'm done	01:28
trillis	How can I get VLC to play videos that are streaming from webpages?	01:28
ardchoille	kendall: reboots in Linux are rare	01:28
kendall	so, I had my first crash, then?	01:29
kendall	woohoo!	01:29
Radi01	mozilla -vlc plugins trillis	01:29
nosrednaekim	:D	01:29
* trillis has had to reboot with linux 11 times in the last two days.		01:29
amanda	Hi...	01:29
* trillis runs		01:29
nosrednaekim	trillis: why?	01:29
trillis	Exercise. :-D.	01:30
Radi01	lol	01:30
kendall	good enuf reason.	01:30
amanda	Is anyone here using VirtualBox? I'm trying to get my Lexmark printer working in a Windows VM	01:30
Radi01	yout 2 much trillis.	01:30
ardchoille	trillis: I'd guess that at least 10 of those reboots were unnecessary	01:30
Kasplatt	trillis huhh ??	01:30
nosrednaekim	amanda: you'll need to get the non OSE edition	01:30
amanda	nosrednaekim: check	01:30
nosrednaekim	amanda: you have that?	01:30
amanda	yep	01:30
trillis	Well, my wireless internet dies on me randomely, and the only way for some reason to get it to work again is rebooting.	01:31
amanda	Not sure where to go from there	01:31
kendall	I look forward to the day when the things you guys say aren't totally foreign to me.	01:31
trillis	I'm right there with you kendall.	01:31
ardchoille	kendall: hehe	01:31
kendall	heh	01:31
nosrednaekim	amanda: yeah. i'm not too familiar with USB and VB... I got it working in Vmware though..	01:31
Radi01	Stick with it kendall it will come.	01:31
trillis	So do I type sudo apt-get mozilla -vlc plugin?	01:31
kendall	yeah, I intend to.	01:31
amanda	trillis: You already tried "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" and/or "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"?	01:31
* trillis blinks...		01:32
nosrednaekim	trillis: yeah... the dbus one works for me :D	01:32
kendall	glad I'm not the only n00b here.	01:32
amanda	nosrednaekim: Might you point me to a good VMWare-on-Gutsy how-to?	01:32
trillis	Hehe.	01:32
trillis	I r nub.	01:32
ardchoille	trillis: sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc	01:32
nosrednaekim	!vmware	01:32
ubotu	VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers	01:32
NickPresta	I recently lost power and my computer unexpected shut down. I now get a "no buffer space available" message from udev/uevent when booting up. Any ideas?	01:32
mks	http://pastebin.ca/804022	01:32
trillis	I have vlc, but it doesnt want to play streaming videos for me.	01:32
mks	ups si aki no era xD	01:33
trillis	!spanish	01:33
ubotu	Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.	01:33
Radi01	sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc	01:33
kendall	looks like I needed to update a lot of stuff.....	01:33
amanda	nosrednaekim: Thanks a lot	01:33
scrubb2000	So I have a broken installation of XP on one of my partitions, and linux feels it has to check the disk every time it starts up, which takes forever because it uses dosfsck. Can I get linux to stop checking this partition at startup somehow?	01:33
Radi01	do it..(now).	01:33
Radi01	lol	01:33
nosrednaekim	scrubb2000: remove it from the fstab	01:33
scrubb2000	nosrednaekim: how do I do that?	01:33
nosrednaekim	!fstab	01:34
ubotu	The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions	01:34
* trillis despises mplayer		01:35
kendall	so, in general, is there ever a time when I want to choose not to auto-update stuff? I know that in WinXP, I chose not to install some stuff, unless I knew for certain it was needed for security or functionality. Is there cases in kubuntu where I want to selectively not install updates?	01:35
=== mneptok_ is now known as mneptok
nosrednaekim	kendall: try not to do kernel updates..	01:35
amanda	Thanks again, nosrednaekim. Peace	01:35
kendall	ah	01:35
kendall	good info	01:35
nosrednaekim	unless something isn't working	01:35
kendall	ok, well I'm not sure if I'm currently updating my kernel or not.	01:35
kendall	we'll see.	01:36
Radi01	ya good info...no wonder i had to re-install ubuntu 5 times.	01:36
nwonknu	Are there instructions for configuring D-Link DWL-G132 (usb wireless network adapter using atheros chipset) ?	01:36
Radi01	lol	01:36
ardchoille	kendall: Usually the kernel won't update unless you do a dist-upgrade	01:36
kendall	I just let the auto-updater go do it's thing.	01:36
kendall	aha	01:36
kendall	more good info.	01:36
kendall	thanks	01:36
kendall	so, is there a compelling reason to upgrade to 7.10?	01:36
nosrednaekim	nwonknu: you'll need to use ndiswrapper	01:37
Radi01	yes..better.	01:37
kendall	or will 7.04 work for me?	01:37
* trillis is using dapper		01:37
nosrednaekim	kendall: 7.04 should be fine	01:37
kendall	ok	01:37
trillis	uhm..	01:37
trillis	Installing that plugin didn't help me.	01:37
Radi01	?	01:37
vbgunz	anyone know of a replacement player for quicktime movies in Konqueror? is there anything better than mplayer or xine or something more compatible? watching trailers on apple blow chunks :(	01:37
nwonknu	nosrednaekim: yes, ndiswrapper, but are there detailed instructions? How good in kubuntu's wireless support out of the box?	01:37
ardchoille	kendall: Some advice. Thought a gui is good and easy, there are advantages to learning the command line, one of which is that the cli is the only thing you'll have left if xorg, kdm, or your desktop env breaks. The command line is fast and powerful, not to mentio easily scriptable.	01:37
kendall	so, why the codenames? Is 7.04 not descriptive enough?	01:38
trillis	Mozilla still wants me to "Click here to download plugin" When trying to watch streaming vids.	01:38
level1	Hi, kmail is refusing to retrieve some messages from my gmail account. Usually it works, but sometimes it refuses to download the mail for a few days; it just acts as if there are no new messages. I can see from gmail's web interface that the mails are there; but kmail won't download them	01:38
nosrednaekim	nwonknu: not that good, but with ndiswrapper,it may work.	01:38
Radi01	your useing dapper so i couldnt tell ya trillis..	01:38
nosrednaekim	level1: POP or IMAP?	01:38
trillis	:(	01:38
kendall	thanks, ardchoille, I imagine I'll need to, yes. But for now, I'm not anywhere ready for that.	01:38
nwonknu	nosrednaekim: I got it working on opensuse, but it was a major pain. Looking for an easier distro.	01:38
Radi01	click and see what it wants trillis	01:38
ardchoille	trillis: There was a recent article about a virus/worm going around that asked you to download a file in order to watch a video, I wouldn't trust it.	01:38
somekool	i dont get it ... kdelibs4-dev is for KDE 3 and kdelibs5-dev is for KDE 4 ????	01:39
trillis	Mozilla can't find it anyway.	01:39
nosrednaekim	nwonknu: well, if you use ndiswrapper, it shouldn't be too hard	01:39
level1	nosrednaekim: POP3... I'm reluctant to convert to IMAP because I'm not sure if it will cause problems, and I will not have enough space to back up my emails for about a week	01:39
Radi01	really? ardchoille?	01:39
nosrednaekim	somekool: lol :D	01:39
ardchoille	Radi01: Yes	01:39
Radi01	linux virus?	01:39
* trillis is using ubuntu 6.0something.		01:39
nosrednaekim	level1: ah.. ok, POP is more reliable anyway,but no I have no clue. I've never had a problem like thta	01:40
level1	trillis: 6.06? ancient!	01:40
* kendall feels superior to trillis		01:40
Radi01	lol	01:40
nwonknu	nosrednaekim: ok thanks. sounds like it's the same basic deal I went through with the other distro.	01:40
ardchoille	Radi01: A linux virus is not impossible, and won't do much harm, but I value my $HOME farmore than the rest of the system.	01:40
somekool	nosrednaekim: anything smart to say ?	01:40
level1	nosrednaekim: what's the advantage of IMAP?	01:40
Radi01	Thanx i didnt know of that 1	01:40
nosrednaekim	somekool: ummmm "it is how it is"	01:40
dairien	Can someone help me with KNetworkManager please?	01:40
kubuntunewbie	is it possible to attach a printer that is hosted from an xp machine?	01:40
nosrednaekim	dairien: what is the problem?	01:41
trillis	Well, I just bought a new comp from a University, and it didn't have an OS so I found an old CD of Kubuntu and was like... Hey...	01:41
nosrednaekim	kubuntunewbie: yes... you need samba	01:41
somekool	so that's how it is ?	01:41
nosrednaekim	somekool: yuppers	01:41
dairien	When I left click the icon on my dock, everything is greyed out and it says Device: No active device	01:41
Radi01	cool trillis neat.	01:41
kubuntunewbie	!info samba	01:41
ubotu	samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 3750 kB, installed size 9212 kB	01:41
trillis	Isn't there a way I can feed the link to VLC and have it play it?	01:41
dairien	I am unable to connect wirelessly to my router although I connected yesterday to my friends after we installed kubuntu.	01:41
level1	trillis: if you want, you can upgrade... I find that the newest stable ubuntu release is the most sane to use, contrary to the logic that old things are stable	01:42
kubuntunewbie	nosrednaekim: is that served theu the apt-get thingey?	01:42
trillis	I do I upgrade?	01:42
nosrednaekim	kubuntunewbie: you can get it from there, yes	01:42
* trillis doesn't want to use gnome.		01:42
nosrednaekim	!samba	01:42
ubotu	samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT	01:42
nwonknu	Is there a best/easiest wireless network adapter (or chipset) for kubuntu? native drivers?	01:42
trillis	heheh	01:42
nosrednaekim	!hardware \| nwonknu	01:42
ubotu	nwonknu: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport	01:42
trillis	I went through this yesterday.	01:42
level1	!upgrade \| trillis	01:42
ubotu	trillis: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes	01:42
trillis	With the wireless problem, took me something like 19 hours to get my wireless usb working.	01:43
nwonknu	nosrednaekim: thx	01:43
nosrednaekim	dairien: delete all of the stuff out of your "/etc/network/interfaces" fine	01:43
Radi01	dapper to gutsy is quite a trip.	01:43
nosrednaekim	*file	01:43
dairien	I just did that	01:43
dairien	kdesu /etc/network/interfaces correct?	01:43
trillis	Does it still look the same?	01:43
dairien	yes	01:43
nosrednaekim	dairien: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces	01:43
nosrednaekim	then do a "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"	01:44
kendall	ok, 'nother n00b question; where do I look to see if I can see the other machines on the network (all XP)?	01:44
level1	trillis: thats weird. theres no way to upgrade from 6.06 to 7.10... you might be better off reinstalling	01:44
trillis	Internet>Wireless Aisstant?	01:44
nosrednaekim	kendall: you'll need samba for that.	01:44
dairien	norsednaekim: I did that	01:45
trillis	nvm	01:45
* kendall sighs		01:45
dairien	norsednaekim: Just now	01:45
kubuntunewbie	nosrednaekim: i installed samba, where does it install to?	01:45
nosrednaekim	dairien: just now what?	01:45
* trillis would then have to spend another 19 hours trying to reconfigure his wireless usb adapter :(		01:45
nosrednaekim	!samba \| kubuntunewbie	01:45
ubotu	kubuntunewbie: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT	01:45
dairien	norsednaekim: I just did sudo /etc/int.d/dbus restart	01:45
level1	trillis: if your using ubuntu (as opposed to kubuntu), you can "get" kubuntu by simply installing kubuntu-desktop	01:45
level1	trillis: what brand of wireless card is it? in 7.10, the restricted drivers manager will help to autoconfigure wireless	01:46
trillis	eh...	01:46
dairien	norsednaekim: The only thing that happened is now it says my battery is not present even though I am not powered into the wall.	01:46
nosrednaekim	dairien: yeah.... thats normal... don'tworry about that.	01:46
dairien	norsednaekim: Okay, is there somthing else I should do?	01:47
trillis	D-link DWA-130 Wirelss usb	01:47
nosrednaekim	dairien: so your not connected via wireless right now?	01:47
level1	trillis: personally, I'd upgrade; every time I've upgraded ubuntu I've been happier	01:48
nosrednaekim	dairien: just to let you know,knetworkmanager is one of the most hated apps in kubuntu :D	01:48
trillis	I'll upgrade later.	01:48
level1	except for kmail... kmail still doesn't work for me	01:48
ardchoille	nosrednaekim: lol	01:48
* trillis just wants to fight with vlc now		01:48
dairien	norsednaekim: No I am not connected, I am using a different laptop to be on mIRC.	01:48
dairien	norsednaekim: I'm sorry everyone hates KNetworkManager, I am new.	01:48
nosrednaekim	dairien: does your AP use WPA encryption?	01:49
trillis	Dairien: Me too :).	01:49
nosrednaekim	*access point	01:49
dairien	norsednaekim: Yesterday when I put kubuntu on my computer, KNetworkManager was running fine and it recognized all the wireless connection.	01:49
espacious	dairien i use it a little tricky but works with m usb wirlees	01:49
ardchoille	Is KNetworkManager only for laptops? I've never used it on any of my 11 PC's	01:49
nosrednaekim	ardchoille: only useful for laptops.	01:49
ardchoille	Ah, ok	01:49
dairien	norsednaekim: AP?	01:49
nosrednaekim	access point	01:49
nosrednaekim	wireless access point	01:50
kendall	jeez, only 38% done with updates....	01:50
* kendall sighs		01:50
nosrednaekim	kendall: could be worse,....I have 26K dial up :D	01:50
dairien	norsednaekim: The encryption type is WEP	01:50
kendall	eek!	01:50
kendall	seriously?	01:50
Radi01	wow 26k?	01:50
* kendall feels superior to nosrednaekim as well.....		01:51
Radi01	I remember those days.	01:51
trillis	How are you even chatting?	01:51
nosrednaekim	dairien: ok, then we might be able to bypass knetworkmanager, grab the package "wlassistant"	01:51
kendall	heh, you said "package"....	01:51
dairien	norsednaekim: How do I do that?	01:51
nosrednaekim	dairien: run "sudo apt-get install wlassistant"	01:52
trillis	Radi01: Do you know if VLC has some sort of configuration in the preferences of vlc so I can feed it a link to the movie? Or am I dreaming?	01:52
nosrednaekim	trillis: its possible......	01:52
dairien	norsednaekim: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update to try with --fix-missing	01:52
Radi01	not that i know of trillis/ its out of the box working	01:52
dairien	norsednaekim: is what konsole said	01:52
nosrednaekim	dairien: run "sudo apt-get update"	01:53
kendall	hm?	01:53
trillis	Dairien: K Menu>System>Konsole if you didn't know...	01:53
nosrednaekim	trillis: he knows XD	01:53
dairien	Yes, I have it bound to f12, thank you.	01:53
trillis	Could you elaborate nosrednaekim?	01:53
nosrednaekim	trillis: on what?	01:54
nosrednaekim	dairien: oh... now thats what I call a power user :D	01:54
dairien	norsednaekim: Should I run WLAssistant now?	01:54
nosrednaekim	dairien: run "sudo apt-get install wlassistant"	01:54
dairien	norsednaekim: Done.	01:55
trillis	You said it was possible for me to give VLC a link to watch the streaming video.	01:55
nosrednaekim	dairien: now run "kdesudo wlassistant"	01:55
Radi01	trillis/open vlc and copy paste link in play file	01:55
nosrednaekim	trillis: I did? lol... too many people.. I'm not sure if its possible actually... try #vlc	01:56
kendall	up to 48% updated!	01:56
kendall	woohoo!	01:56
dairien	norsednaekim: Command not found	01:56
dairien	norsednaekim: I don't believe it installed correctly	01:56
nosrednaekim	yeah....	01:56
kubuntunewbie	nosrednaekim: i installed that program and what not to have xp read access but i still cant fig out how to mount a printer	01:56
dairien	norsednaekim: I appear to have had some errors, do I need to be connected to the internet on the computer I am installing wlassistant?	01:56
sam_	vlc	01:57
nosrednaekim	dairien: yes :D	01:57
dairien	norsednaekim: Okay, well that's the problem.	01:57
nosrednaekim	heh :D	01:57
dairien	norsednaekim: I cannot connect to my router, :x	01:57
dairien	norsednaekim: I am talking to you on another laptop that is running windows.	01:58
nosrednaekim	dairien: ah....not this sounds interesting :D	01:58
nosrednaekim	*now	01:58
trillis	#vlc is a dead channle...	01:58
nosrednaekim	dairien: is it possible for you to take the encryption off temporarily?	01:58
Radi01	: trillis/open vlc and copy paste link in play file	01:59
dairien	norsednaekim: Yes I can, but the laptop doesn't even recognize a signal.	01:59
trillis	It does nothing.	01:59
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nosrednaekim	dairien: not sure about that.... try running "iwconfig" and see what the name of the interface that is your wireless (whould be eth1 or wlan0,etc)	02:00
dairien	eth1	02:00
nosrednaekim	dairien: now run "sudo iwlist eth1 scan"	02:01
nosrednaekim	and see if it gives you your router..	02:01
kubuntunewbie	Could anyone please assist me in installing a printer that is networked over an xp machine???	02:01
Radi01	trillis: you may have to play with firefox/edit/preferences/content/filetypes.	02:01
nosrednaekim	kubuntunewbie: go intot system settings-> printers->add printer and select the type of printer to be samba (I believe)	02:02
dairien	norsednaekim: yes it does	02:02
dairien	norsednaekim: how do I connect to it?	02:02
nosrednaekim	dairien: then all hope is not lost :D	02:02
trillis	I don't see any filetypes in the Content section.	02:03
nosrednaekim	dairien: its easiest if you take the encryption off	02:03
dairien	norsednaekim: I have the address, ESSID, Protocol, Mode, Channel, and frequency	02:03
Radi01	click the manage under file types trillis	02:03
kubuntunewbie	nosrednaekim: i dont know how to find the address, any ideas?	02:04
nosrednaekim	kubuntunewbie: run "ipconfig" on the windows computer	02:04
dairien	norsednaekim: Is there some sort of sudo command I can type to just connect to the router by typing in the ESSID and WEP Key?	02:04
nosrednaekim	dairien: yes....	02:04
kubuntunewbie	nosrednaekim: so i would use the ip that is assigned to the computer from the router?	02:04
nosrednaekim	the ESSID part is easy...I forget how to do the key part	02:04
dairien	norsednaekim: How do I just do the ESSID?	02:05
nosrednaekim	the ESSID is "sudo iwconfig eth1 ESSID <your essid>"	02:05
trillis	Radi01: I don't see any button, nor do I see anything that has to deal with filetypes. All I see however are boxes that tell me I should Enable Javascript, Block Popups and Warning me when a web trys to install something.	02:05
Radi01	you have another version than i have/ anyways you may have to change the (open with) file in your fire fox.	02:06
Radi01	just look around	02:07
nosrednaekim	dairien: then. run "sudo iwconfig eth1 key <your key>" and finally "sudo dhclient eth1"	02:07
dairien	norsednaekim: I think it worked.	02:08
kendall	so, should I wait for all my updating to finish before installing samba?	02:08
Radi01	yes	02:08
nosrednaekim	dairien: try pinging google :D	02:08
kendall	ok	02:08
dairien	norsednaekim: You are god	02:08
dairien	norsednaekim: I owe you	02:08
Radi01	after you update re-boot and go from there	02:08
* kendall taps his fingers impatiently.....		02:08
kendall	ok	02:08
nosrednaekim	I amnot god,god gave me gifts :D	02:08
dairien	norsednaekim: If you ever need a website or some sort of graphic design of some sort e-mail dairien@gmail.com	02:08
nosrednaekim	dairien: hey... kubuntu needs help with that right now :D	02:09
Radi01	lol	02:09
nosrednaekim	(and i'm dead serious)	02:09
Kasplatt	some free burning software to burn my .iso do a CD ?	02:09
* trillis twitches		02:09
nosrednaekim	Kasplatt: on windows?	02:09
Radi01	I know it was just how it looked.	02:09
Kasplatt	yes	02:09
nosrednaekim	!iso	02:09
ubotu	To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.	02:09
Kasplatt	it's not for me it's for a friend .	02:09
nosrednaekim	Kasplatt: I forget the name..	02:10
sstchur	When I try to run apt-get -f install, I get "	02:10
sstchur	dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack):	02:10
sstchur	trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/oxygen/scalable/emblems/emblem-mounted.svgz', which is also in package kde4base-data	02:10
sstchur	dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)	02:10
mrsno	Kasplatt infrarecorder	02:10
trillis	Daemon tools?	02:10
mrsno	small download	02:10
Kasplatt	not mounting , burning	02:10
sstchur	What is that?	02:10
trillis	Nero?	02:10
Kasplatt	mrsno infrarecorder ?	02:10
nosrednaekim	sstchur: remove all previous KDE4 packages before install RC1	02:10
dairien	norsednaekim: Thank you for your help.	02:10
Kasplatt	trillis something free , he won't use windows after that so buying nero would be pointless	02:10
mrsno	yep :) it works well, a clone almost of an old version of nero, without much of the crud you get in the newer versions of nero	02:10
* trillis ywantorrentyawn		02:11
sstchur	nosrednaekim: that's what I'm trying to do, but when I run apt-get remove kdelibs5 I get a an error saying I need to run apt-get -f install, which gives me the error I just mentioned	02:11
Radi01	alacohol is better anyway nero stinks	02:11
mrsno	the ubuntu wiki even has steps on burning, if they are new to it all	02:11
sstchur	it's a vicious cycle!	02:11
nosrednaekim	sstchur: ah...	02:11
Kasplatt	thanks mrsno	02:11
nosrednaekim	sstchur: heh... I had that problem once.... remove all other kde4 packages first.	02:11
kendall	woohoo! 74% updated!	02:11
Radi01	yahoo	02:11
mrsno	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#head-5f36c46dbbdd2bd773ae1f5d361be66c6553babf Kasplatt fyi	02:11
trillis	Hey God (nosrednaekim), any way you could help me with my vlc issue?	02:11
nosrednaekim	thats just the DL..	02:12
mrsno	your welcome	02:12
* kendall taps fingers some more....		02:12
Radi01	lol trillis	02:12
nosrednaekim	trillis: I don't use VLC,sorry	02:12
Radi01	be nice	02:12
Kasplatt	mrsno I was just looking for the software :P	02:12
* trillis <3 nosr		02:12
mrsno	its linked in the first line of text :)	02:12
nosrednaekim	dairien: you might want to get wlassistant to make that easier next time	02:12
dairien	I am now	02:13
dairien	Thank you	02:13
sstchur	nosrednaekim: do you know which ones specifically? I've tried kdebase-dev-kde4 and that failed also	02:13
markus	!dist-upgrade	02:13
ubotu	For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes	02:13
nosrednaekim	yeah, I don't know, I just messed around for a little bit and fixed it :D	02:13
trillis	Well, when I try and use mplayer, whenever I try to full screen a video, it goes to 1fps.	02:13
Radi01	kendall: you on dsl?	02:13
Radi01	did it die?	02:15
nosrednaekim	everyone is dead..	02:16
Dr_Willis	die die die! :)	02:16
* trillis cries		02:16
* trillis yells at vlc for being mean		02:16
* Dr_Willis has been playing crysis - lots of death there!		02:16
trillis	Dr Willis, do you know anything about vlc?	02:17
Dr_Willis	trillis ive never had any problems with vlc. I use it all the time inder linux and windows	02:17
trillis	Think you could attempt to help me?	02:17
Radi01	Dt_Willis trillis is on dapper.	02:17
Dr_Willis	im on gutsy	02:17
trillis	...:(	02:17
Dr_Willis	:) I dont recall any issues on it with dapper either.	02:18
trillis	I'm trying to get it to stream movies.	02:18
trillis	But it says no to me.	02:18
* trillis whimpers...		02:18
Dr_Willis	Hmm.. never messed with the streaming much.	02:18
* nosrednaekim slaps trillis		02:18
Dr_Willis	when i did stream movies.. they looked like poo.	02:18
Radi01	mine dont..they are real clean	02:19
trillis	Same.	02:19
Dr_Willis	about like some of the crud ya see on that shoutcast tv stuff	02:19
Dr_Willis	but i imagine theres 1000+ settings ya can tweak with	02:19
Dr_Willis	i was watching them in a browser. :)	02:19
Radi01	shoutcast now has hq	02:19
trillis	I'd post a link, but it's probably agains kubuntu rules.	02:19
nosrednaekim	Dr_Willis: I think you are confusing content with quality ;)	02:19
nosrednaekim	trillis: what is the movie?	02:20
Dr_Willis	nosrednaekim i want quality adult videos! :0	02:20
Dr_Willis	heh heh	02:20
trillis	last samurai :)	02:20
nosrednaekim	oh...	02:20
trillis	o_O	02:20
somekool	try youtube	02:20
trillis	You tube works fine.	02:20
nosrednaekim	trillis: oh.... I see,I'm not sure you can stream a "real" video. I thinkit has to be a stream	02:20
Dr_Willis	ive streamed .avi's with vlc befor	02:20
Radi01	exactly	02:20
level1	silent failure is so annoying... kmail is refusing to get messages from my gmail account, it just says "transmission from gmail complete, no new messages"	02:20
level1	There seems to be a process called kio_pop3 that gets left behind, but killing it doesn't change anything	02:21
draik	Hello all	02:21
nosrednaekim	level1: thats very odd....it may be a probalem with your gmail pop settings	02:21
Radi01	hey driak	02:21
nosrednaekim	hey draik	02:21
level1	nosrednaekim: hmmm... gmail doesn't give you very many options; mostly its just, what does gmail do with the messages after they are retrieved?	02:22
draik	What software can I use to edit an AVI? I want to cut away parts from the beginning and end so that I am left with a short clip of the original AVI.	02:22
draik	Hey nosrednaekim	02:22
draik	Hey Radi01. My name is Draik :p	02:22
Radi01	sry	02:22
draik	Haha	02:22
nosrednaekim	draik: avidemuz might be able to do it.	02:23
nosrednaekim	*avidimux	02:23
trillis	Dr.Willis: When I try to stream movies from a specific site, mozilla tells me I need to install a plugin.	02:23
trillis	Dr_Willis *	02:23
Radi01	draik ill get you a couple links to some cool software hang on	02:23
draik	nosrednaekim: I use ffmpeg still for other things. avidimux removed it	02:23
draik	Radi01: Thank you	02:23
Dr_Willis	trillis you are trying to watch a video stream in vlc? or make your own stream?	02:23
Dr_Willis	I use the mplayerfirefix plugin i think for most of mine	02:24
Radi01	http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=lives try that	02:24
trillis	trying to watcha viodeo stream	02:24
draik	trillis: I get the same thing. I thought I had kaffeine setup since Dapper to Edgy to Feisty. I guess it didn't transfer to Gutsy	02:24
kendall	woohoo! 97 percent done!	02:25
Radi01	avidimux didnt work?	02:25
draik	Radi01: All I need now is a phone call and this DSL should start kicking and screaming of abuse	02:25
Radi01	hahaha	02:25
Radi01	2 funny	02:25
trillis	Radi01: Who's the link for?	02:25
draik	Radi01: Ktorrent, Konversation and now Firefox	02:26
Radi01	wow	02:26
Dr_Willis	trillis what site you trying to watch anyway?	02:26
trillis	watch-movies.net	02:26
Radi01	id be on the phone with those cats about it	02:26
posingaspopular	anyone know how to turn off the dictionary feature in konversation. it keeps trying to correct my spelling but only because it doesn't recognize 'konversation' as a valid word	02:27
posingaspopular	highlights in red, gutsy gibbon btw	02:27
trillis	uhg	02:28
ardchoille	posingaspopular: You should be able to add any word to your dictionary	02:28
nosrednaekim	posingaspopular: haha, can't you add it to the dictionary?	02:28
draik	posingaspopular: I will trade you	02:28
trillis	Damn...	02:28
kendall	ah, now we're into the installing part of the updates....	02:28
trillis	I just noticed that my video card isn't going to let me maximize videos.	02:28
draik	How do I get the dictionary feature?	02:28
Radi01	cool kendall	02:28
trillis	I tried to maximize a youtube video at I got 2fps.	02:28
ardchoille	trillis: lol	02:28
Radi01	lol 2fps darn	02:28
trillis	I have an ati 16mb 3d card :(	02:29
Kasplatt	lol	02:29
Radi01	I have an 8 meg turbo 3d 4 sale.	02:29
Minataku	Scaling is a 2D acceleration feature, however, with a YouTube video, it's likely done entirely in the flash player	02:29
Kasplatt	I've seen that a lot of linux users got low-end comps	02:29
trillis	Do you think it could be, because Kubuntu hates ATI?	02:30
ardchoille	trillis: watch-movies.net ? I foresee a visit from the MPAA in your future :P	02:30
Minataku	I'd recommend downloading the video and running it manually with something like XVideo	02:30
trillis	MPAA?	02:30
draik	ardchoille: kinda reminds me of tv-links.co.uk	02:30
Radi01	lol ardchoille	02:30
Minataku	Which even on lame cards will usually have hardware accelerated scaling	02:30
ardchoille	draik: Yeah	02:30
Radi01	iraa	02:30
draik	tv-links.co.uk was a great site.	02:30
Radi01	ya tv links got raided	02:30
draik	:(	02:30
trillis	I'm not doing anything illegal by watching them.	02:31
Radi01	punks	02:31
trillis	The site is by hosting them.	02:31
ardchoille	trillis: Yes, the MPAA sues people who download movies like that.	02:31
Dr_Willis	trillis tat site works for me. Its just using the Flash player.	02:31
Kasplatt	ohh MPAA sounds like a bunch of idiotss .	02:31
Radi01	they are.	02:31
trillis	I don't dl movies though.	02:31
posingaspopular	no i want to turn it off	02:32
coreymon77	tv-links got shut down	02:32
coreymon77	oh no	02:32
coreymon77	the cria is worse	02:32
Radi01	ya a month ago	02:32
coreymon77	they shut down demonoid	02:32
trillis	How can I get the flash player plugin then?	02:32
posingaspopular	i have no idea how it got turned on, but i want it off	02:32
nosrednaekim	!flash	02:32
ubotu	To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	02:32
draik	Radi01: So it appears that I already had LIVES installed	02:32
Kasplatt	Radi01 wouldnt that make the downloads go a little slower ?	02:32
draik	*LiVES	02:32
Radi01	cool lives is cool as avidemux	02:32
draik	Now I'm told the video is too big	02:32
draik	:(	02:32
=== hero is now known as joseph
draik	Just not my end of the year	02:32
Radi01	youll be ok d	02:33
Radi01	I'll send benny hinn over to lay his hands on yur dsl.	02:33
draik	Benny Hill???	02:33
Kasplatt	mplayer	02:34
Dr_Willis	Miss Cleo can drive out the Deamons! :0	02:34
draik	Miss Cleo was the best scam IMO	02:34
Radi01	ya miss cleo	02:34
coreymon77	and the CRIA can drive out the deimos :P	02:34
draik	Fake Jamaican accent and all	02:34
Dr_Willis	'Certified Psycic!'	02:34
Dr_Willis	:P	02:34
Hizzle	trying to get my sound to work is really becoming an adventure like everything else	02:34
Radi01	psycho	02:34
Minataku	Heya, Dr_Willis	02:35
Minataku	:D	02:35
draik	Then again, it was stupid people that believed in her and that the people on the other line were actually using tarot cards and not the cards in solitaire from the game they were playing during calls.	02:35
Minataku	Any news on the other Amiga yet? Or is it still at the mercy of your wife's crap?	02:35
Minataku	lol	02:35
Dr_Willis	Minataku its in the garrage.. I may have a decent box for it now. :) got a large collection of Xmas packing box's here.	02:36
Minataku	Oooh, cool :D	02:36
draik	"Oh yes chaild. I see an empty space in dat dere secun colum. Drag dat queen to da keen and score som poin's, mai chail'."	02:36
trillis	how do I enable multiverse for the flash plugin?	02:37
Dr_Willis	!repo	02:44
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	02:44
=== DM\| is now known as DM
=== DM is now known as Delvien
Kasplatt	!ps3	02:46
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:46
Kasplatt	kubuntu runs on ps3 .. right ? like a PPC edition ?	02:46
Dr_Willis	Kasplatt thats what i hear. :)	02:46
Kasplatt	or is KDE too heavy for it ?	02:46
Kasplatt	ah okay , nice !	02:46
Minataku	Ugh	02:46
Dr_Willis	Given the Processing power of the PS3.. Id be amazed that any desktop would be too heavy for it.	02:46
Minataku	Actually	02:47
Minataku	The PS3's processor is a mess	02:47
Minataku	It's a horrible design for general purpose tasks	02:47
Dr_Willis	But it wasent designed for general purpose tasks. :) it was designed for porn.. err.. i mean games..	02:47
Dr_Willis	:)	02:47
Minataku	It's really only good for heavy calculation, like massive scientific stuff	02:47
Minataku	Wrong, actually	02:47
coreymon77	Dr_Willis: lol	02:47
Dr_Willis	Bah! You and your downer attitude...	02:47
Minataku	It's a partial PPC core with eight mass-vector units	02:48
Dr_Willis	You are mad because it wont run CP/M !	02:48
coreymon77	ps3 is a waste of money	02:48
Minataku	It's completely inappropriate for everything but heavy scientific calculations and massive data processing	02:48
Minataku	Last time I checked, nobody was waiting in line to buy "Amino Acid Binding: The Interactive Adventure"	02:49
Minataku	Or for that matter, a PS3	02:49
Dr_Willis	So it can handle Compiz fine then. :)	02:49
Minataku	This generation's total failure	02:49
Dr_Willis	Minataku that would be 'spore' :)	02:49
Minataku	Actually, the chip itself is a bottleneck for everything	02:49
coreymon77	and this generations great success = the wii!	02:49
Minataku	And there's a separate graphics chip	02:49
Dr_Willis	I like my Wii :)	02:49
Minataku	So the CPU is basically used for absolutely nothing	02:49
coreymon77	me too	02:49
hdevalence	what does ksoftirqd do?	02:49
coreymon77	the only worth while console of this generation	02:50
Kasplatt	coreymon77 ps3 is nice too	02:50
Minataku	No, it's not	02:51
coreymon77	Kasplatt: didnt you just hear us go on about how its a complete waste of money and this generations biggest flop or a failure	02:51
Dr_Willis	ultimate game station ----> http://www.xgamestation.com/	02:51
coreymon77	or=of*	02:51
Dr_Willis	:)	02:51
Kasplatt	yes it is ... for games its awesome !	02:51
Minataku	No, it's not.	02:51
hdevalence	and besides, with the wii you can fold the protiens yourself!!!!	02:51
Kasplatt	for linux it's pretty sucky .	02:51
Minataku	It's a shame you can't see past your fanboyism.	02:51
Kasplatt	Minataku yes it is .	02:51
Kasplatt	I'm not a fanboy	02:51
Minataku	I weep for the money you wasted.	02:51
coreymon77	Kasplatt: it really isnt	02:51
Kasplatt	I like the games for it	02:52
coreymon77	Kasplatt: im a little ticked about ratchet being only on it	02:52
coreymon77	Kasplatt: but other than that	02:52
Kasplatt	coreymon77 for some purposes it isn't .	02:52
coreymon77	Kasplatt: its a complete waste	02:52
Kasplatt	ya the games are great , but it has some processing power that's useful in some situations .	02:52
coreymon77	Kasplatt: games are crap	02:52
Dr_Willis	Someone want to check http://stage6.com/user/zeshika_kuku_ru/video/1216296/haruhi-candy-pop see if the download-the-video link works? for some reason firefox is trying to load the download as a text file...	02:53
Radi01	hackers love ps3 processors	02:53
Kasplatt	coreymon77 no they aren't .	02:53
coreymon77	mario galaxy FTW	02:53
Kasplatt	Radi01 yes	02:53
Radi01	They made big news last week.	02:53
Kasplatt	coreymon77 you seem to be a wii fanboy right now .	02:53
Radi01	lol'	02:53
coreymon77	Kasplatt: name me one good game other than ratchet	02:53
Dr_Willis	coreymon77 im waiting for harvest moon. :) The wife wa playing Bowling all day yesterday., and only knocked over the tv once.	02:53
coreymon77	Kasplatt: not really, its just the only worthwhile system, i have a ps2 and its great	02:54
coreymon77	Kasplatt: once again	02:54
coreymon77	Kasplatt: name me one good game other than ratchet	02:54
Kasplatt	coreymon77.. Little Big Planet, Call of Duty 3. and lots of others.	02:54
* Dr_Willis dosent even know what 'rachet' is.		02:54
Radi01	lol only once?	02:54
Kasplatt	Ratchet and Clank..	02:54
coreymon77	Kasplatt: both of those are crap	02:54
Kasplatt	coreymon77 and why is that ?	02:54
coreymon77	Kasplatt: dont even know what that planet game is	02:55
draik	Is there an app for playing ISOs? Is there a way to mount it and put it on as an image drive?	02:55
coreymon77	Kasplatt: and what are these lots of others	02:55
Dr_Willis	I dont care much for the 3d platformers.	02:55
Dr_Willis	!iso \| draik	02:55
ubotu	draik: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.	02:55
draik	Kasplatt: Ratchet and Clank games are really good. I love their weapons	02:55
Dr_Willis	draik you mount it and access its contents is one way	02:55
coreymon77	Kasplatt: that is the only thing im ticked about	02:55
draik	Thank you Dr_Willis	02:55
coreymon77	Kasplatt: but cot3, its just another fps	02:55
coreymon77	Kasplatt: little big planet, wtf is that	02:55
coreymon77	Kasplatt: and what are these lots of others?	02:56
Dr_Willis	issue i have with most of the 3d platformers - is that the darn camera always seems to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.. :)	02:56
bazhang_	there should be a ubuntu/kubuntu games channel	02:56
Kasplatt	coreymon77, I happen to like Battlefield Bad Company, Resistance: FoM, Lair, GRAW2, Def Jam Icons. and others.	02:56
Dr_Willis	I just perfer the Twisted Metal Car carnage fests...	02:56
coreymon77	Kasplatt: once again, never heard of any of them	02:56
Kasplatt	and Kane & Lynch	02:56
coreymon77	Kasplatt: who and what?	02:56
Kasplatt	coreymon77 okay, so you say all the ps3 games suck and you don't know any of the games . you seem smart.	02:57
coreymon77	has anyone heard of any of these games	02:57
ardchoille	!ot	02:57
ubotu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	02:57
Minataku	Here comes the fun police	02:57
coreymon77	Kasplatt: trust me, if they were any good, i would know about it	02:57
Minataku	Despite that nobody needs help right now	02:57
coreymon77	Kasplatt: the fact that i dont means they are crao	02:57
Dr_Willis	ive never played a ps3.. and i only got 2 games for the wii. :)	02:58
coreymon77	ardchoille: hes right, if someone was looking for help, different story	02:58
coreymon77	ardchoille: but for now, whats the big deal	02:58
Minataku	My main console is an XBos360, and I also have my beloved Dreamcast	02:58
Minataku	*XBox360	02:58
bazhang_	help! linux broke my internets!	02:58
Minataku	No it didn't.	02:58
Kasplatt	there	02:58
Minataku	You have been helped.	02:58
Minataku	lol	02:58
Kasplatt	lol	02:59
Minataku	Now, back to the fun	02:59
bazhang_	haha all fixed	02:59
Dr_Willis	Minataku local used place has a oodle of Dreamcasts. :)	02:59
Minataku	XD	02:59
Minataku	Dr_Willis: Get one	02:59
Radi01	Help: bill gates just got blue screened using linux.	02:59
Minataku	You'll love it	02:59
kendall	time to get samba	02:59
Dr_Willis	Minataku i got one with a few games allready. I wanted to get the amiga emulator going on it.. but never did :)	02:59
coreymon77	Kasplatt: also, the controller was the biggest failure ever, it doesnt even have a freaking rumble	02:59
Minataku	Heh	02:59
* Dr_Willis turns off rumble.		02:59
Minataku	I've used an SNES emulator on my Dreamcast	02:59
coreymon77	Kasplatt: sony tried to imitate the wiimote and failed miserably	02:59
draik	Dr_Willis: sudo umount /mnt right? I mounted it to /mnt/	02:59
Kasplatt	coreymon77, if you buy the dualshock 3 you get rumble ...	02:59
coreymon77	Kasplatt: if you buy a seperate controller, very nice	03:00
Radi01	kendall: how goes it buddy.	03:00
Kasplatt	coreymon77, they did not , they got 3d accelerometers , which only are for motion sensing, that skiing game uses it nicely.	03:00
Dr_Willis	draik you could mount it anywhere you wanted. make the dir first.. ie mkdir /media/ISOFILE then mount to /media/ISOFILE	03:00
draik	Dr_Willis: I chose /mnt/	03:00
Minataku	Uh, the Wiimote has 3D accelerometers as well	03:00
Minataku	They also have them in the nunchuck	03:01
draik	Dr_Willis: To unmount it, I do sudo umount /mnt/ right?	03:01
Dr_Willis	draik bingo.	03:01
Minataku	Various different tools can be used with the Wiimote, including a gun and a steering wheel	03:01
Kasplatt	Minataku and an IR camera that find out which way it's turning by looking at an IR led bar.	03:01
kendall	I'm learning, Radi01	03:01
coreymon77	yup	03:01
Minataku	All by just sticking the Wiimote into a plastic frame	03:01
coreymon77	and virtual console=unlimited supply of games	03:01
Radi01	cool	03:01
Dr_Willis	the Question is... can I use the Wii Remote on my Linxu box!	03:01
coreymon77	prob	03:02
Minataku	Kasplatt: So it's bad because it does more than the PS3 controller?	03:02
Minataku	Interesting.	03:02
coreymon77	bluetooth mod	03:02
Dr_Willis	Not seen any info on doing that. yet. :)	03:02
Minataku	I think you should take your fanboyism and toss it out the window.	03:02
Kasplatt	Minataku, I never said it was bad	03:02
draik	I just had a "UGH! Why won't you... oh wait, my fault" moment.	03:02
Minataku	As for the Wiimote, I believe it CAN be used for other things	03:02
draik	I was in /mnt/ in Yakuake and wondered why I coudn't umount	03:02
coreymon77	external hd :P	03:02
Kasplatt	I just said it that the ps3 controller isn't	03:03
Minataku	Nintendo would certainly be smart to release the specs and info on it	03:03
Dr_Willis	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_ytdW6Ys2A - wii remote on a pc.	03:03
Minataku	It would boost their sales even higher	03:03
Minataku	Not that they particularly need that right now	03:03
Minataku	lol	03:03
coreymon77	Kasplatt: lets see the ps3 controller do that	03:03
Kasplatt	Dr_Willis yay , I can connect my PS3 controller to the PC just fine.	03:03
Minataku	Seeing as how the Wii can barely stay on the shelves	03:03
coreymon77	Kasplatt: and hmm lets see, what is the most popular and most wanted gift this year	03:03
Minataku	Whereas they can't get rid of the PS3s	03:03
coreymon77	Kasplatt: the ps3?	03:04
Kasplatt	Minataku it's cheap as hell	03:04
coreymon77	Kasplatt: no, the wii!	03:04
Minataku	They're like cardboard boxes full of crap	03:04
Minataku	Uh, no, it's not	03:04
Kasplatt	STOP BEING FANBOYS !	03:04
Radi01	ya	03:04
coreymon77	Kasplatt: ya, and the ps3 is way to freaking expensive	03:04
Minataku	The cheap version is $50 more than the midrange 360	03:04
Minataku	It lacks backwards compatibility	03:04
Kasplatt	damnit , I'm defending the ps3, not bashing ur beloved fkn wii	03:04
coreymon77	Kasplatt: umm, look whose talking	03:04
Minataku	The expensive version is $50 MORE than the high-end 360	03:04
coreymon77	and the wii is cheaper than them all	03:05
Minataku	Kasplatt: And we're making valid points on why the PS3 is a complete and utter failure	03:05
Kasplatt	I just ssaid that the wii is cheap as hell	03:05
Minataku	The fact that it was designed first to push their latest failure format Blu-Ray	03:05
Minataku	Which we all here HATE for obvious reasons	03:05
Kasplatt	Minataku , saying that all the games suck does not make it a bad console , since your just bashing it without any background for doing that .	03:05
Minataku	I haven't said that	03:06
coreymon77	umm	03:06
Kasplatt	Minataku blu-ray is great too	03:06
Minataku	Typical fanboy, not even listening	03:06
coreymon77	what else is a console used for	03:06
Minataku	Okay, now I _know_ you're an idiot	03:06
coreymon77	if the games are crap, what else good is the console	03:06
Minataku	Kasplatt: I'd definitely recommend you give up	03:06
Kasplatt	coreymon77 that's my point , they aren't !	03:06
coreymon77	Kasplatt: yes they are	03:06
Kasplatt	yeah I'm outnumbered, wii fanboys all round me	03:06
Minataku	I wasn't even aware there WERE games for the PS3	03:07
rafal	how to set LCD refresh rate?	03:07
rafal	using KDEW	03:07
rafal	KDE	03:07
Minataku	There's, what, 5 total?	03:07
Minataku	And they're all lame	03:07
coreymon77	we're not even fanboys	03:07
Kasplatt	Minataku more like 80	03:07
coreymon77	we're just being realistic	03:07
coreymon77	Kasplatt: ya, most of them ps2 games :P	03:07
Minataku	rafal: The refresh is typically locked on an LCD, but check the graphics settings	03:07
Minataku	coreymon77: Unless you got the cheap one	03:07
Kasplatt	coreymon77, I'm talking about ps3 games here	03:07
coreymon77	sure...	03:08
Kasplatt	60-80 or something like that	03:08
Minataku	Also, I'm not a fanboy	03:08
Minataku	I've got an XBox360	03:08
Minataku	My little brother has a 360 and a Wii	03:08
* Dr_Willis is too cheap.		03:08
coreymon77	and i have a ps2	03:08
Minataku	I've also got a Dreamcast	03:08
coreymon77	which i really like	03:08
Hizzle	I am trying to install alsa drivers so I can get my sound working typed make install after I complied it and got this in the terminal "install: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied" anyone know how to fix it?	03:09
coreymon77	and a genesis	03:09
Minataku	I also play emulators of NES, SNES and Arcade games	03:09
* Dr_Willis has a C64 thats inside a little Joystick		03:09
Minataku	Hizzle: You have to use Sudo	03:09
Kasplatt	oh that totally doesn't make you a fanboy , fyi I got a PS1 PS2, Nintendo64 NintendoDS ... so I can't be a fanboy , can I ?	03:09
Minataku	*sudo	03:09
Kasplatt	and a gameboy color !! :O!	03:09
Hizzle	I am very new to all this is it sudo make install is what I type?	03:09
Minataku	Considering you're completely batsh*t about the PS3	03:09
ardchoille	If you cannot abide by the channel rules, namely !ot, please either refrain from posting or visit another channel :)	03:09
Minataku	Hizzle: Correct	03:09
Hizzle	thanks	03:09
Dr_Willis	Hizzle 'sudo make install' correct	03:09
Minataku	ardchoille: Give it a rest, wannabe	03:10
Pilot	I installed VMware6 and need to un-install it and install 5. Anyone know how to get rid of 5?	03:10
ardchoille	!ops	03:10
ubotu	Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato, haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!	03:10
rafal	Minataku: no	03:10
Pilot	get rid of 6*	03:10
* Dr_Willis goes back to reserching the wiimote under linux.		03:10
Minataku	That's for emergencies only, ardchoille	03:10
Hizzle	so what is sudo might I ask?	03:10
Kasplatt	I play emulators too :)	03:10
Minataku	Nice work on the abuse.	03:10
PriceChild	!offtopic \| Kasplatt	03:10
ubotu	Kasplatt: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	03:10
rafal	Minataku: I can have 50 58 or 60 refresh rate... on my LCD how to set it? in kde prefferably.. or with some application? or in xorg conf?	03:10
nalioth	Dr_Willis: we suggest 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install'	03:10
hdevalence	Dr_Willis: I think there's a kernel driver for it	03:10
Minataku	Hizzle: sudo allows one to execute commands with a higher privliege level	03:10
coreymon77	Hizzle: namely, as root	03:11
Hizzle	ah ok	03:11
Hizzle	thank you	03:11
hdevalence	Dr_Willis: but you'd need to write your own software	03:11
Dr_Willis	hdevalence aparently it is using a rather common chipset. :) its all the littel details that seem to be causing problems.	03:11
Minataku	ardchoille: Also, I am stopping my discussion to help when it's requested	03:11
Kasplatt	meh ,I'll just leave . I've heard enough of your ps3 bashing . bye :D	03:11
Dr_Willis	hdevalence yep. Be nice for a MythTV box i think	03:11
Minataku	rafal: Hm... I've never done it, so I don't know, actually	03:11
Minataku	!video	03:12
ubotu	Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications	03:12
Minataku	Hrm... that's not it	03:12
Minataku	Say, nalioth, since you're here, do you know how to set the refresh on an LCD through KDE?	03:13
Minataku	It MIGHT be in the XOrg config, but I'm not sure at all	03:13
nalioth	Minataku: there is no such thing.	03:13
ardchoille	lol	03:13
nalioth	LCDs don't refresh	03:13
Minataku	LCDs do have a refresh	03:13
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Minataku	They update the screen serially, one pixel at a time, ala CRTs	03:14
Minataku	I know this as a fact because my graphics card sucks and I get tearing sometimes	03:14
nosrednaekim	Minataku: system settings->monitor and display	03:17
Minataku	rafal needs it, not me	03:17
Minataku	I was just asking if anyone else knew because I didn't	03:17
Minataku	nalioth: LCDs are not, however, susceptible to flicker	03:17
pteague_work	any idea why i'd be getting an error trying to update to gutsy?	03:17
flaccid	if lcds didn't refresh, i guess it would only be good for still photos :)	03:18
Minataku	Since that's an artifact of the phosphor dimming without repeated restimulation	03:18
NickPresta	pteague_work, which error are you getting?	03:18
Minataku	Perhaps that's what you were thinking?	03:18
nalioth	Minataku: i don't think the video configurators know anything about LCDs and refresh, because LCD refresh is not anything like CRT refresh	03:18
Minataku	It's a similar phenomenon	03:19
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Minataku	The similarity is that the screen has to be redrawn from top to bottom so many times per second	03:19
pteague_work	nm... think i found an issue with some of the extra items in my sources list	03:20
Minataku	The difference is the reason this has to be done (Outside the reason, of course, that both need to update what's on the screen)	03:20
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kendall	so, after I install samba, should I be able to browse the network, and if so, how, or do I need to configure it extensively?	03:24
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pteague_work	kendall> you on a domain or just a windows network?	03:25
kendall	windows network	03:25
kendall	XP machines	03:25
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kendall	I can't even figure out how to open samba	03:25
Minataku	!samba	03:26
ubotu	samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT	03:26
* kendall sighs		03:26
Minataku	Try those links	03:26
kendall	that's where I was	03:26
kendall	...am....	03:26
kendall	ok, more reading, then	03:26
kendall	thanks	03:26
Minataku	The guides are there to help you. Don't be afraid to read them. :D	03:26
Minataku	flaccid: If LCDs didn't refresh, they'd be completely useless	03:27
Minataku	lol	03:27
pteague_work	hmm... i can't find the computer name &/or domain/workgroup settings in my smb.conf ... then again i set those up when i set up the box's linux name & domain	03:27
Minataku	They'd never display anything	03:27
flaccid	fair enough	03:29
Hizzle	tried installing the alsa packages had a few errors tried restarting and now kmix says mixer cannot be found	03:29
coreymon	we like the moon	03:32
Hizzle	did anyone see my msg up there about mixer cant be found not sure if it went through my internet is acting screwy	03:33
Radi01	lcd refresh rates do not matter/ it is response time that matters.	03:33
pteague_work	try reinstalling mixer &/or kmix ?	03:33
kendall	howcome when I edit the samba config file, I cannot save it?	03:36
ardchoille	kendall: You need to edit it with admin privs (sudo/kdesudo)	03:36
jhutchins	!sudo \| kendall	03:37
ubotu	kendall: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	03:37
kendall	ok	03:37
jhutchins	!kdesu \| kendall	03:37
ubotu	kendall: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)	03:37
kendall	ack! info overload!	03:37
kendall	heehee	03:37
jhutchins	kendall: Yeah, well, just be glad I didn't dump http://tldp.org on ya.	03:38
kendall	heh	03:38
ubuntu_	#Kubuntu-es	03:38
ardchoille	jhutchins: hehe	03:38
nzk	How do I stop Kubuntu from reloading from a previous session?	03:38
Radi01	cool site	03:38
Dragnslcr	System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Handling	03:39
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kendall	is there a way I can right-click a file and choose to open it with root priv?	03:44
kendall	never mind, found it	03:46
ardchoille	kendall: kendall Are you using konqueror for file management?	03:47
joseph	try as i might, i cannot play youtube videos	03:48
joseph	i've reinstalled all the flash pkgs, to no avail	03:49
joseph	and i've scanned for plugins in kongueror.	03:49
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kendall	I think so, ardchoille	03:50
kendall	I got it, tho	03:50
ardchoille	ok	03:50
joseph	what should i do next to get flash to work?	03:50
joseph	well, homestar works :P	03:51
ardchoille	kendall: I wrote a nice service menu item and will share it with you if you want it. It makes editing files a little easier.	03:51
joseph	bleh	03:51
kendall	um, that may be a bit advanced for me yet.	03:52
kendall	I'll keep it in mind, tho	03:52
kendall	ok, after I edit the samba config file, how do I go about browsing the network? what menu is it under?	03:54
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ardchoille	kendall: Type samba:/ into the konqueror file manager ?	03:54
kendall	aha	03:55
ardchoille	kendall: It's a kio slave, similar to apt:/ man:/ and others	03:55
kendall	uh. right. of course.	03:55
kendall	(remember, n00b)	03:56
ardchoille	kendall: Don't worry, you'll get all of this stuff :)	03:56
kendall	I'm trying	03:56
ardchoille	kendall: Our goal is to bring you out of "n00b: status	03:56
theverant	hi. My user is part of the scanner group, but I still need to sudo xsane for it to see my scanner - any ideas?	03:57
ardchoille	kendall: Here's the service menu complete with instructions: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/?show=m4d48d1e2	03:57
kendall	ok, thanks	03:57
Radi01	cool	03:58
ibilic	you know how you use Ctrl+C to terminate a program... how would you pause it?	03:59
kendall	ok, I'm sorry. where in the konqueror file manager do I type that? I keep getting errors...	03:59
ardchoille	kendall: In the location bar	04:00
kendall	ok, and do I need to be in the home folder?	04:00
ardchoille	current location shouldn't matter	04:00
ardchoille	kendall: What is the error? Protocol not supported?	04:00
kendall	An error occurred while loading locate:samba:/:	04:00
kendall	The file or folder does not exist.	04:00
ardchoille	kendall: Did you add a ":" to the end?	04:01
ardchoille	samba:/	04:01
kendall	no	04:01
kendall	samba:/	04:01
ardchoille	I wonder why it's searching for samba:/	04:01
ardchoille	It seems to be doing "locate samba:/"	04:02
kendall	in the locate bar it shows locate:samba:/	04:02
ardchoille	kendall: Then I must be wrong, weird, that worked in Feisty	04:02
kendall	I thought I was IN feisty....	04:03
kendall	7.04	04:03
kendall	right?	04:03
ardchoille	You are	04:03
* kendall is confused....		04:03
nosredna_ekim	kendall: you sure your entering "samba:/" in the right bar?	04:03
* ardchoille is too		04:03
ardchoille	nosredna_ekim: Thank you, for a minute I thought I was going crazy	04:04
kendall	yeah, I think so. it isn't the "filter" bar	04:04
nosredna_ekim	kendall: oh <_<	04:04
nosredna_ekim	kendall: you can always try "network:/"and select samba from there	04:05
kendall	as I start to type in the locate baar, it starts trying to autocomplete by prefacing it with "http:/"	04:05
nosredna_ekim	odd.	04:06
ardchoille	kendall: ignore that	04:06
kendall	ok	04:06
ardchoille	kendall: It's doing the "http:/" in a drop down, correct?	04:06
kendall	yes	04:06
ardchoille	Yeah, ignore it	04:06
kendall	ok. still get the error, though	04:07
ardchoille	kendall: Tr turning off web shortcuts for a moment: Settings > Configure Konqueror > Web Shortcuts	04:08
ardchoille	I want to see if that is interferring	04:08
kendall	uh...	04:08
kendall	ok, gimme a sec	04:08
kendall	ok, now I get a different error-	04:09
kendall	Protocol not supported	04:09
kendall	samba	04:09
kendall	....and for the record, it still did the dropdown thing....	04:10
ardchoille	kendall: Ok, that won't work, then. Try typing in network:/ and go to samba from there	04:10
ardchoille	kendall: Did you install samba ?	04:11
kendall	Protocol not supported	04:11
kendall	network	04:11
kendall	I think so, yes	04:11
ardchoille	kendall: Ok, how about system:/	04:12
kendall	lemme go reenable web thingy's	04:12
kendall	system works	04:12
Ahmuck	good evening	04:12
ardchoille	kendall: Then system:/remote should have samba in it	04:12
kendall	samba shares?	04:13
ardchoille	Yes	04:13
kendall	koo	04:13
ardchoille	Hi Ahmuck	04:13
kendall	ok, kool, now I can see part of the network	04:13
ardchoille	kendall: Sometimes given advice doesn't work because it's quite difficult to find two identical Linux boxes	04:14
kendall	gotcha	04:14
kendall	ok, now trying to access one of the computers, its asking for authentication info, (password), does that mean I still have some configuring to do in the config file (that computer doesn't use a password)	04:16
BluesKaj	why does the cursor jump to the last letter in the last word in the google searchbar after an entry, it's very annoying when trying change wording in the middle of a phrase	04:17
BluesKaj	and ids there a fix ?	04:17
BluesKaj	is	04:17
BluesKaj	kendall, if it's a windows pc , make sure the file/folder is setup to share	04:19
Kr4t05	Okay... I have files, albums, even, that are in my collection, but don't show up in Amarok's collection manager. o.0	04:19
kendall	it is	04:19
Kr4t05	What's the deal?	04:19
yola	hello!!	04:19
kendall	ok, here's a new question- using konversation, is there a way to join 2 irc networks?	04:20
posingaspopular	kendall: yes	04:21
posingaspopular	f7	04:21
posingaspopular	then hit irc.oftc.net or whatever you want	04:21
kendall	thank you, posingaspopular	04:21
BluesKaj	kendall, have you tried using konq to browse to the windows pc by typing smb:/ in the addressbar	04:21
kendall	um, no. I only booted up for the first time tonight, so I'm afraid I'm a bit behind, BluesKaj	04:22
adamonline45	Good evening... What should I use to manage my wireless interface?	04:24
mot_	can anybody explain how 'screen' works	04:25
BluesKaj	sacktime , nite all	04:25
ardchoille	mot_: screen is way cool	04:26
mot_	i know you can hit screen and start a new screen, then hit ctrl a+d to get out	04:26
mot_	and then screen -x to resume	04:26
mot_	but i don't understand how its different from just opening another console	04:26
ardchoille	mot_: What do you need to know?	04:26
mot_	well...	04:26
mot_	how it's different from opening a new console	04:26
ardchoille	mot_: If you do ctrl+alt+f1, you are just in one console, but if you use screen in that console, you can have lots of windows	04:27
mot_	ah	04:27
ardchoille	mot_: I run mutt (email), irssi (irc chat), elinks (web browser), bash (shell), mc (file manager) all in one screen on tty1	04:27
ardchoille	mot_: There are weeks that go by when I don't even use xorg	04:28
mot_	screen is predominantly used when not running x, yes?	04:28
mot_	as in, when you're only running from console	04:28
ardchoille	Well, I use it in konsole in kde too	04:28
t3ch13	I'm getting ready to buy a new laptop and was wondering if anybody here knows how kubuntu works with the HP Pavilion DV9640 Laptop?	04:35
dsmith_	zareason dot com	04:36
dsmith_	system76 is another good place to go	04:36
dsmith_	buy a machine with kubuntu installed already	04:36
t3ch13	I need it to be a dual boot is the only thing	04:37
dsmith_	they can do that as well	04:37
dsmith_	:)	04:37
dsmith_	you may have issues with the new machines	04:37
dsmith_	DV series is nice	04:37
t3ch13	I have a ZE2315 but the power connector is flaky so I need a replacment and I've pretty much decided on the DV9640 because I need a 17 inch display	04:38
dsmith_	eiher of the two other compnanies offer 17" screens	04:39
dsmith_	aye, my zd7000 powerport went bad	04:39
dsmith_	I went and bought (4) used hp 15" lappys from ebay	04:39
dsmith_	~200 each and fixed them myself	04:39
dsmith_	all run fine	04:39
t3ch13	Sad part on this one is my extended waranty expired 15 days ago lol	04:40
dsmith_	ahhh that sux	04:40
Xacarith	Is there any one who knows much about Samba's 'Configure - KDE control Module'	04:41
t3ch13	And they wouldn't work with me. If I wasn't in collge working on my Bachelors degree I wouldn't have to worry about replacing it	04:41
dsmith_	when I was in Sam's club otherday	04:41
dsmith_	I booted Ubunt CD's on thier display models	04:41
kendall	ardchoille: I can't seem to locate the folder to put editwith into	04:48
kendall	the path you specify doesn't seem to exist	04:48
kendall	.unless I'm an idiot....	04:48
maduser	so create it	04:48
kendall	(highly possible)	04:48
kendall	um.	04:48
maduser	um what?	04:49
maduser	just use mkdir	04:49
kendall	never created a folder yet.	04:49
maduser	do you know unix?	04:49
kendall	heh, no	04:49
maduser	then use dolphin	04:49
kendall	see, I knew you were gonna say something that meant absolutely nothing to me....	04:50
kendall	lol	04:50
lockd	I still prefer Konqueror over dolphin	04:50
maduser	dolphin allows open as root	04:50
kendall	here's the path I need-	04:50
kendall	~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus	04:50
kendall	I'm in the root folder	04:51
maduser	then open it as root in dolphin	04:51
maduser	in konqueror i needed to use the root shell to do root stuff with the files	04:51
kendall	where's dolphin?	04:51
maduser	do you know what dolphin is?	04:52
Xacarith	Is there any one who knows much about Samba's 'Configure - KDE control Module' or how to set the server string	04:52
kendall	I'm afraid not.	04:52
maduser	are you new to this?	04:52
kendall	I just booted kubuntu for the first time tonight, maduser	04:53
kendall	very new, yes.	04:53
maduser	never used linux?	04:53
kendall	n00b, in the classic sense.	04:53
maduser	well kubntu is a good starter	04:53
kendall	heh, good!	04:53
eean	good ender too	04:53
kendall	anything more complicated than this would sink me!	04:53
eean	;)	04:53
maduser	so go to kmenu, system and it should be right there	04:53
lockd	it's good up until your a godlike expert.. I first used Gentoo. probably not the best decision	04:54
maduser	my first was mandriva	04:54
maduser	forced me to lean unix	04:54
eean	Corel Linux. :P	04:54
lockd	actually I used Core first	04:54
lockd	Core, not Fedora Core or Corel	04:54
eean	what's Core?	04:54
lockd	some really obscure distro	04:54
maduser	now that i know unix i can use any distro	04:54
kendall	I don't have dolphin on my system menu. am I broken?	04:55
maduser	If you know Unix you could use any distro without major problems	04:55
maduser	are you using 7.10	04:55
kendall	no	04:55
kendall	7.04	04:55
maduser	thsats why	04:55
eean	then use konqueror	04:55
kendall	oh	04:55
kendall	heh	04:55
maduser	lean unix my firend:)	04:55
eean	kendall: but what are you trying to do?	04:55
kendall	ok, so, creating a path in konqueror?	04:56
eean	maduser: learn to spell :P	04:56
kendall	I need to move a file to that path	04:56
kendall	~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus	04:56
kendall	but I can't find it	04:56
xyphor	Xacarith - I'm not familiar with the KDE interface for samba, but I use samba a lot. What are you trying to do?	04:56
maduser	Random Fortune: There are two types of Linux developers - those who can spell, and those who can't. There is a constant pitched battle between the two. -- From one of the post-1.1.54 kernel update messages posted to c.o.l.a	04:57
eean	kendall: well copy ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror into the URL bar	04:57
kendall	ok	04:57
maduser	thats was toatal random!!!	04:57
eean	uh-huh ;)	04:57
maduser	perfect timing	04:57
kendall	The file or folder ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus does not exist.	04:57
eean	thats why I said copy ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror	04:58
eean	;)	04:58
kendall	uh	04:58
ninjagambit	im new to linux and i have installed fedora 8 and running kde desktop Im thinking of changing to kubuntu	04:58
kendall	ok	04:58
eean	you there?	04:58
Xacarith	Xyphor Get my computer on the network.... Well, it sorta was on it a bit, to where I could access other computers... I left the computer idle for a bit while I was doing things, now I can't get on the network at all	04:58
kendall	ok, yes	04:58
ninjagambit	how do i get rid of all fedora stuff and install kubuntu	04:58
lockd	ninjagambit: IMHO, apt is easier than rpm	04:58
lockd	ninjagambit: you want to keep all your ~/ files?	04:58
eean	kendall: you should be able to right click on a blank spot and select Create New	04:59
ninjagambit	I dont have any files on there exept what come with install	04:59
kendall	ok, thanks	04:59
maduser	kendall are you running as root?	04:59
lockd	ninjagambit: oh, then just use Kubuntu install disc and reformat/partition	04:59
ninjagambit	ok thats what i needed to know	04:59
eean	ninjagambit: well then its really easy. just boot up with a livecd to make sure it works.	05:00
eean	a kubuntu livecd	05:00
ninjagambit	is there a bit torrent for livecd	05:00
eean	yes	05:00
ninjagambit	i couldnt find it	05:00
xyphor	Xacarith: oh, so you're trying to browse for SMB/CIFS shares on your kubuntu box?	05:01
ardchoille	kendall: mkdir ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus	05:01
ninjagambit	just install dvd	05:01
kendall	I think so, maduser	05:01
eean	you don't want the install dvd	05:01
xyphor	Xacarith: I mean from your kubuntu box?	05:01
eean	unless you have crappy internet	05:01
Xacarith	xyphor Yes, but now i can't even find this computer, or any others on the network.	05:01
kendall	thx, ardchoille	05:01
ardchoille	kendall: yw	05:01
eean	and yea, appears you can't torrent cd's	05:01
kendall	I think I got it now	05:01
eean	I'm sure the mirrors are plenty fast	05:01
maduser	kendall are you trying to do somthing in a folder other then your home or desktop?	05:02
ninjagambit	i can get ubuntu live cd	05:02
kendall	whew.....	05:02
ninjagambit	i think that is gnome right	05:02
eean	yea you don't want that	05:02
xyphor	Xacarith: hmmm...never done that before. unfortunately I don't have a samba share setup at home to test	05:02
kendall	um, I don't honestly know, maduser	05:02
eean	http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php <-- just get it from one of the FTP mirrors	05:02
ardchoille	ninjagambit: Are you looking for this? http://www.kubuntu.com/download.php	05:02
eean	maduser: nah, kendall is just working in ~/	05:02
xyphor	Xacarith: all my samba servers are at work	05:03
kendall	I believe I got it sorted though, it seems to work.	05:03
ninjagambit	i was looking for a torrent	05:03
ninjagambit	for live cd	05:03
eean	why o.o	05:03
xyphor	Xacarith: have you changed anything recently?	05:03
Xacarith	Xyphor I do know my settings for somethings keep getting changed. My workgroup for example, it keeps getting changed back to 'workgroup' as well as my my server string getting changed to something else.	05:03
kendall	I think I may need to rest my brain....	05:04
maduser	why?	05:04
Xacarith	xyphor just a bit ago, and finally got it on the network, but I lost it again while it was just sitting here...	05:04
ninjagambit	ill just get it from there then	05:04
eean	ninjagambit: pfft actually there are torrents for the livecds	05:04
eean	http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-rc-desktop-i386.iso	05:04
eean	erk	05:04
eean	rc	05:04
eean	http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent	05:05
xyphor	Xacarith: hmmm...that's definitely weird....hold on a sec	05:05
eean	that one :)	05:05
ninjagambit	i need the 86_64	05:05
eean	look in http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/	05:05
ninjagambit	i am	05:05
eean	http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent	05:05
ardchoille	ninjagambit: just FYI, the 64 bit version takes quite a bit more work to get it going, from what I have seen of others in this channel.	05:05
kendall	maduser, I can't reply in your pm, I'm unregistered	05:06
Xacarith	xyphor All I've changed though is putting things back to the defaults using the settings from another computer. Yet things keep changing them selves It's getting really annoying...	05:06
kendall	but yes, winXP	05:06
maduser	does this channel need some backround music?	05:06
theverant	anyone know why I can't change colours in the Quanta+ editor? They just reset back to default, they don't actually change when I press OK	05:06
ardchoille	kendall: Might be a good idea to register, this channel is a vital resource	05:06
kendall	no shite.	05:06
ardchoille	hehe	05:06
ninjagambit	ardchoille: how so?	05:07
ardchoille	ninjagambit: It's just that I have seen 64bit users needing a lot more work on various things.	05:07
ardchoille	flash for one	05:07
xyphor	Xacarith: you may want to try smb4k. It's a program I used to use a while ago that seemed pretty stable...it would automount shares and all that good stuff	05:07
xyphor	Xacarith: again, I'm not sure what interface the stock kubuntu uses	05:08
xyphor	Xacarith: (and I'm running in gnome at the moment)	05:08
=== kendall is now known as Doood
ninjagambit	on fedora 8 kde i had a nice menue editor you open it it shows all your applications then somehow it chaged to a crap interface where you couldnt see all the aplications that wasnt in your menu	05:09
=== Doood is now known as Dooood
morphine	hey folks, when I try to launch strigidaemon it core dumps	05:09
ardchoille	ninjagambit: kmenuedit ?	05:09
ninjagambit	yeah	05:09
Xacarith	xyphor I could never get things set up well in gnome Like changing security levels from user to share Then again I've never been able to get this computer to network right....	05:09
eean	kmenuedit doesn't show apps now in the menu afaik	05:09
ninjagambit	but i dont know what the menu edit i had before was	05:09
xyphor	Xacarith: oh, I love KDE, I just happen in be in gnome right now.	05:10
eean	ninjagambit: KUbuntu has something called add/remove programs, thats kind of close to what you described	05:10
xyphor	Xacarith: smb4k is a KDE app...it gives you a network neighborhood type interface	05:10
ninjagambit	not realy	05:10
ninjagambit	you talking about pirut	05:11
eean	dunno what pirut is	05:11
ninjagambit	oh yeah ubuntu dosnt use that	05:11
ninjagambit	its like yum	05:11
ninjagambit	graphical	05:11
eean	well ok, no I'm not ;)	05:11
ninjagambit	thats what add/remove programs on mine iw	05:12
ninjagambit	is	05:12
eean	add/remove programs is a simple thing	05:12
ninjagambit	ok	05:12
Xacarith	I've never had so much trouble networking a computer before	05:12
eean	the full install program is called Adept Manager	05:12
eean	that lists everything and its brother	05:12
xyphor	Xacarith: when you say "networking a computer", I'm assuming you mean browsing SMB/CIFS shares, correct?	05:13
ninjagambit	i just want to edit the menue but i want to see programs appended to the menue and the ones that not	05:13
ninjagambit	menu	05:13
xyphor	Xacarith: this samba interface thing in the KDE control panel, are you clicking the administrator mode button?	05:14
xyphor	Xacarith: that may be why your settings aren't getting saved	05:14
Xacarith	I've networked many computers before, many OS, sept apple Heck, I've gotten my other linux and windows talking to each other fully. Ya, I'm in admin mode Can't even change them otherwise. They save, but it's like I make a minor change to something and things get reset.	05:15
ninjagambit	got disconected	05:16
Dooood	ok to idle here?	05:16
maduser	idle?	05:17
Dooood	hang out	05:17
theverant	Gah... I have to run sudo Quanta to change the color scheme? What gives? Anyone know what could be up?	05:17
maduser	and chat?	05:17
Dooood	without talking	05:17
maduser	set your person as away	05:18
Dooood	no, just hang out	05:18
Dooood	ah	05:18
maduser	so no one will try and contact you	05:18
Dooood	ok	05:18
=== Dooood is now known as Dooood\|AFK
Dooood\|AFK	like that, or is there another way?	05:19
xyphor	Xacarith: sorry, maybe someone else here can help. I'm not running in kde mode now, so troubleshooting blindly isn't helping either one of us.	05:19
Dooood\|AFK	aha	05:19
maduser	wtf?	05:19
maduser	dooood?	05:19
maduser	never mind	05:20
maduser	didn't read the channel messages	05:20
Dooood\|AFK	so, if I set "away globally", can I change my nick back?	05:20
=== Dooood\|AFK is now known as Dooood
maduser	your good	05:21
Dooood	koo	05:21
Dooood	nini	05:21
Xacarith	Xyphor Well smb4k is seeing the network, but 'The list of servers could not be retrieved' It looks like it's seeing my computer as the server as the server it couldn't connect to was the name of my computer....	05:21
maduser	I got a s**** load of chem homework	05:21
stdin	Dooood: don't change your nick on away	05:22
* Xacarith sighs and goes to fiddle with things		05:22
theverant	this is so stupid	05:22
ninjagambit	ok say you have an application on your system and its installed but its not in your applications menu	05:22
ninjagambit	how do you run the file	05:22
ninjagambit	I can find the file	05:22
stdin	add it to the menu if you want	05:23
ninjagambit	i can look at all the contents but its just code	05:23
maduser	all apps don't always have a GUI	05:23
maduser	!GUI	05:23
ubotu	The graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)	05:23
maduser	yeah	05:23
maduser	so type the app in a shell	05:23
Dr_Willis	'its just code' :) heh heh	05:27
maduser	like most linux/UNIX apps	05:28
Dr_Willis	like most apps :)	05:28
maduser	they should make ksimet compatable with neddiswrapper	05:29
mikeooo	lol kubuntu keeps caching all the programs being installed during an upgrade	05:30
mikeooo	up to 4.1gb used (cached)	05:30
mikeooo	its like vista superfetch	05:30
maduser	ouch	05:31
* mikeooo wonders if it will break 6		05:31
mikeooo	fastest upgrade ever though	05:31
maduser	yeah	05:31
maduser	thats linux	05:32
maduser	but linux has its other problems	05:32
mikeooo	detects my proc speed wrong though	05:34
mikeooo	says its 3825.211 when its only at 3.4	05:34
maduser	that i don't know	05:34
mikeooo	don't think it matters though	05:34
mikeooo	just makes it sound faster than it is	05:34
maduser	i believe the main problem with linux is the users	05:35
xyphor	the users?	05:35
mikeooo	i think the main problem is the hardware and software vendors not supporting it 100%	05:35
xyphor	ditto	05:35
maduser	people are used to windows which makes computers so easy a retard could od it	05:35
xyphor	true.	05:35
maduser	in linux a retared cannot do it	05:35
xyphor	but sholdn't that be the point of an OS?	05:36
xyphor	to make things easy	05:36
stdin	!ot \| this is not the place to discuss this	05:36
ubotu	this is not the place to discuss this: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	05:36
maduser	the simpler the OS the more problems it will have :end topic	05:36
flaccid	wtf	05:37
flaccid	thats the stupidest thing i've heard in a while :)	05:37
mikeooo	heh cached physical memory seems to have leveled off at 6.8gb	05:37
maduser	how?	05:37
mikeooo	during an upgrade	05:37
maduser	a compter that makes things simple makes choices for you	05:38
maduser	that could result in problems	05:38
mikeooo	like gnome?	05:38
stdin	take it out of this channel	05:38
mikeooo	so when kubuntu is caching stuff to physical memory will programs open instantly?	05:39
flaccid	maduser: incorrect	05:39
ardchoille	stdin: How did you become an ubuntu member? I need somewhere to start.	05:39
flaccid	you are comparing apples to bannanas. look up UoD	05:39
stdin	ardchoille: by helping out :)	05:39
flaccid	generalisations are not a great way of arguing something, evidence is.	05:40
ardchoille	stdin: Pfft, been doing that for years	05:40
maduser	i got evidence	05:40
xyphor	mikeooo: linux is probably swapping out infrequently used memory	05:40
stdin	ardchoille: you can sort out the wiki for me	05:40
flaccid	something simple has a smaller context which is different from something else you are comparing. something simple is less complex and usually have less variables..	05:41
stdin	maduser, flaccid: can you take it to -offropic?	05:41
* ardchoille takes a wild guess		05:41
ardchoille	!member	05:41
ubotu	Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember	05:41
flaccid	nah no point in arguing	05:41
stdin	s/r/t/	05:41
Ahmuck	is there a way to sidescroll in openoffice.org with the middle mouse button?	05:42
stdin	ardchoille: that's not exactly a practical document	05:42
ardchoille	stdin: Ah, ok	05:42
Dr_Willis	Ahmuck ya mean a 'side to side mouse wheel' button?	05:42
stdin	ardchoille: best thing to do is help out where you can (and hang out in -devel)	05:42
Ahmuck	well, the middle mouse button allows scrolling up and down. i was hoping to use a key and the middle mouse button to scroll side to side	05:42
stdin	ardchoille: and ask what you can do to help :)	05:43
Dr_Willis	Ahmuck ahh.. i thought you were refrering to those new mice that have tilt wheels.	05:43
Ahmuck	like a mouse modifier key	05:43
* Ahmuck wishes		05:43
ardchoille	stdin: But I need to make the devs aware that I want to become a member, correct? Add my name to a list?	05:43
Ahmuck	but the same principle	05:43
Ahmuck	they make tilt wheels?	05:43
stdin	ardchoille: yeah, you just add your name to the agenda for the next meeting	05:43
ardchoille	stdin: Ah, thanks	05:44
Dr_Willis	Ahmuck yes they do.. but i hear they dont work very well under windows.. and they work even worse under linux.	05:45
stdin	ardchoille: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings	05:45
Dr_Willis	They are aparentlyu done in a bit nonstandard way.	05:45
mike01	upgrade was successful :D	05:46
mike01	using vesa driver though	05:46
mike01	and when it boots its a black screen all the way to the login	05:46
mike01	new kbfx is sweet though	05:47
mike01	time to switch the drivers	05:48
mike01	alright really weird problem...	05:50
mike01	when i kill kdm i lose the video signal on my monitor	05:51
mike01	on all terminals too the f key terminals	05:51
mike01	have to restart it blind to be able to see anything again	05:51
Dr_Willis	mike01 there used to be a bug with the ati cards/drivers/ You had to enable the 'always restart X server' feature in KDM to kick it in the head when you logged out.	05:53
mike01	its an nvidia card 8800gt, but how do i enable that?	05:53
mike01	hmmm maybe if i just switch the drivers and restart x it will work	05:55
xyphor	Ahmuck: there's currently a feature request in for tilt mouse support in OO - http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=51202	05:55
xyphor	Ahmuck: I know you're just looking for a keyboard modifier, but that feature would need to be implemented first	05:56
xyphor	Ahmuck: and the mouse interface in KDE would need to have modifier support too	05:56
xyphor	Ahmuck: basically, I wouldn't hold my breath ;-)	05:57
Lynoure	Dr_Willis: by ati drivers you mean fglrx and not the driver named ati (which is the open source one)?	05:59
Dr_Willis	actually i had issues with both. :)	06:01
Dr_Willis	the 'ati' driver - would lock up one way.. and 'fglrx' would lockup a different way.	06:01
Dr_Willis	My 8800 nvidia card works very well for me.	06:02
unix_infidel	Dr_Willis: !!	06:02
Dr_Willis	unix_infidel !!!...!!!	06:02
Dr_Willis	:)	06:02
Lynoure	Dr_Willis: oh, I was lucky then :)	06:03
Dr_Willis	the issue was mainly in the last release for me.. dosent see m to be a issue for me under Gutsy any more	06:04
Lynoure	Well, there has been issues with nvidia drivers too, closed and open ones. So mileages vary.	06:04
unix_infidel	Dr_Willis: got an 8800gt?	06:04
Dr_Willis	Yep. I think a lot of the issues is also due to the chipsets on the MB.	06:05
Dr_Willis	I got an 8800gtsXXX :) from xforce (i think)(	06:05
unix_infidel	loll, spending budget get a little higher?	06:05
Dr_Willis	of course NOW the newer 8800's are out with more ram/faster clock.. and lower cost.	06:05
Dr_Willis	nvidia seems to sort of be hitting their heads on a wall.. no real improvements in the 8800's it seems in a long time.. just little 'minor boosts' and so forth.	06:06
Dr_Willis	It would be nice if they can get the cost a lot lower and the power needed a lot less.	06:06
* unix_infidel needs to build a new box.		06:07
Dr_Willis	I found one on sale cheaper then i could build - during the back to school sales.. its an ok box. it will last me till next xmas.	06:08
unix_infidel	i found a q6600 HP box for less than 600	06:08
Dr_Willis	but ALLREADY i have to tune down the video settings for games.. crysis is a dog! :)	06:09
Dr_Willis	unix_infidel yep. found a decent gateway here for $600 or so.	06:09
Dr_Willis	i couldent build an identical box that cheal.	06:09
unix_infidel	and it came with little extras like card readers built in with a 19 inch LCD.	06:10
=== pmeighen is now known as PC
Dr_Willis	True i would of built it a little diff.. 500gb hd instead of a 400, and so forth.. and i dont care for the case.. but so what. :)	06:10
=== PC is now known as PC_Man
unix_infidel	i still think prices will be available near december.	06:11
Dr_Willis	And ive allredy tweaked it a little. Put in an extra fan for the system - that 8800 makes the heat. :) and i found a Sata DVD burner for $29 the other day	06:11
Dr_Willis	that removed the ribbon cable and helped the airflow	06:11
unix_infidel	ahh, you bought the gateway box and suped it up?	06:11
Dr_Willis	just a little. :) a $300 video card. and some fans. heh	06:12
Dr_Willis	in a year - the video card will be the most valueable part.	06:12
unix_infidel	lol, thas a spensive box.	06:13
Dr_Willis	Yep. seems i drag out the old ones.. untill a new box i get is like 10x the machine.	06:14
unix_infidel	Dr_Willis: yea i have it pretty bad.	06:15
unix_infidel	my p4's mobo is gone :-)	06:15
Ahmuck	xyphor: thx for the info	06:17
mikeo1	it works!!!!!!!!	06:19
mikeo1	got compiz fusion running with my 8800gt	06:19
Ahmuck	it strikes me odd this has never been implemented. it was a natural thing for me to look for side scrolling middle mouse modifier	06:19
mikeo1	and the latest nvidia beta drivers 169. something	06:19
mikeo1	now need to get dual monitors working\	06:19
Dr_Willis	Ahmuck its sort of a feature that often is more of a annoyance then a feature. :)	06:20
Dr_Willis	Ahmuck the side-scrolling mice ive used are ALWAYS soo touchy - i side scroll when i dont want to.	06:21
=== Ryiel_ is now known as Ryiel
Ahmuck	Dr_Willis: it doesn't have to be side scrolling in the button, an up/down scroll on the mouse with a keyboard modifier would work as well	06:21
Ahmuck	and scrolling with the mouse button is slower than the arrow keys	06:21
Dr_Willis	Ahmuck heh.. imup to my neck in keyboard modifiers with compiz and all its 1000000+ features. :P	06:22
Dr_Willis	Ahmuck of course with my 2 wide screen monitors - i rarely need to scroll sideways. :)	06:24
sn00zer	hello all, earlier i had openoffice crash on me which in turn crashed x and had to ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x, now openoffice won't open, the splash screen pops up but the blue progress bar doesn't move at all and the program isn't listed in top, running in terminal yields the same results, any ideas?	06:38
sub[t]rnl	when you run it in a terminal, do you see any gripes from the program?	06:39
sub[t]rnl	or does it just hang	06:39
sn00zer	invalid/uninitialized input device 169 but i've always seen that when i run just about any gui through the terminal	06:40
sub[t]rnl	odd, might have to re install it	06:41
sub[t]rnl	if nothing else works	06:41
sn00zer	shouldn't there be a crash log somewhere with more info?	06:42
NickPresta	!baddevice \| sn00zer	06:42
ubotu	sn00zer: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors	06:42
sub[t]rnl	i would just re-install open office	06:42
sn00zer	ok, thanks	06:43
sub[t]rnl	and comment out some of the input devices in your xorg.conf to get rid of those error messages	06:43
sub[t]rnl	like nickpresta directed	06:43
sn00zer	ok	06:44
kalorin	ok monitoring is turned off	06:50
kalorin	that's enough of that	06:50
kalorin	any idea's about what's going on?	06:50
flaccid	with what kalorin	06:51
kalorin	sorry wrong channel	06:51
flaccid	np	06:51
kalorin	got a database down	06:51
flaccid	dang	06:51
kalorin	getting to where I'm not really enjoying having a SAN anymore	06:51
flaccid	lol	06:51
kalorin	about 30 minutes ago, the filesystem the database was running off of just decided to be read only	06:51
flaccid	send it to me then if you wanna get rid of it	06:51
* kalorin shrugs helplessly		06:51
flaccid	what OS ?	06:51
kalorin	oh this is more about redhat EL3 and old drivers I suspect than anything	06:52
kalorin	been trying to get off this box for a while	06:52
flaccid	ok	06:52
=== Gaea is now known as titan
Paddy_EIRE	hey guys anyone here running feisty's kde with bery?	06:58
Paddy_EIRE	press shift+backspace if you are	06:58
Paddy_EIRE	then tell me what happens	06:58
kirtan	How to Switch back to KDE default theme from Copiz Fusion	07:00
stdin	kirtan: press Alt-F2 and put in "kwin --replace"	07:01
flaccid	hows your qt apps going stdin?	07:02
kirtan	thanks a lot stdin . :)	07:02
kirtan	thanks you so much	07:03
stdin	flaccid: it's on hold :p I'm working on getting PyKDE4 packaged and getting a svn version of KDE4 packaged. it's keeping me busy	07:03
flaccid	sounds like work	07:03
flaccid	maduser is trying to hack me its funny	07:04
stdin	hack you?	07:04
Paddy_EIRE	with an icepick	07:05
Paddy_EIRE	?	07:05
flaccid	um my ip	07:07
flaccid	still waiting for security breach lol	07:07
stdin	so get a cloak ;)	07:07
flaccid	i don't need a cloak	07:07
flaccid	i need some party balloons	07:07
flaccid	script kiddies..	07:07
stdin	I need sleep, doesn't mean I'm going to get it :p	07:08
flaccid	lol	07:08
muimota___	hi I need help wit my computer!	07:09
flaccid	ok sure	07:09
muimota___	it doesn't boot anymore without recoverymove	07:09
=== stewart is now known as yermaw
muimota___	I don't find any info	07:10
muimota___	and I am unable to diagnose the problem	07:10
opensourcelab	helo der	07:11
opensourcelab	jawa kw	07:11
Lynoure	muimota___: You could start by telling the channel exactly what happens, with error messages, if any.	07:12
flaccid	dang	07:13
opensourcelab	dsds	07:13
opensourcelab	anyone 2 caht	07:14
opensourcelab	mga pota kamo	07:14
devilsxrage	i need some help	07:40
devilsxrage	im only use to the mIRC interface for windows this is all new to me im trying to connect to the bungie irc server	07:40
maverick_	back then when i use to use windows i always moved my "My Documetns" folder which had all my settings and stuff to be saved in another partiton rather than the system's cause i aways formatted it a lot...can i move my Home folder to an ntfs mounted partition, this will cause trouble i know bt is there and alternative that would do the same job rather than BACKING UP evry now and then, cause i always forget to backup	07:41
posingaspopular	maverick_: i think /home is ext3 but im not sure	07:42
posingaspopular	but backing up your /home is relatively easy, so it shouldn't be a problem.	07:43
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GerrySly	yo, having some problems with amarok and mp3 support	07:48
GerrySly	when I try to play an mp3 it updates the codecs etc. then says completed, then it says restart amarok, I quit then open up again and it repeats the same thing	07:49
GerrySly	amarok, fresh install of kubuntu 7.10	07:49
kraut	moin	07:52
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posingaspopular	GerrySly: i had the same issue.	07:59
posingaspopular	how to fix....	07:59
GerrySly	:)	07:59
posingaspopular	GerrySly: look at this page and see if you can find a fix https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/17981	08:00
posingaspopular	it's been so long since I fixed the problem	08:00
posingaspopular	or it feels like it	08:00
GerrySly	alright I'll try it out now	08:02
GerrySly	thanks posingaspopular, that got me to another stage of my problem, I can move forward :)	08:10
posingaspopular	does it work?	08:12
GerrySly	nope, but now it is spitting out the message, Audio output unavailable; the device is busy.	08:12
posingaspopular	xine output?	08:12
GerrySly	yar	08:12
posingaspopular	that error?	08:12
GerrySly	yup	08:12
posingaspopular	ah i was in the middle of trying to fix that the other day when I dropped my speaker, which hit my power strip, landed on top of the power strip and caused me to reboot my computer	08:13
posingaspopular	and when I booted it back it up, it was working, and it hasn't stopped working since	08:13
GerrySly	hahaha	08:13
GerrySly	that's gold	08:13
posingaspopular	im not sure what the exact fix is, but that's my workaround	08:14
GerrySly	heh I might try a reboot	08:14
GerrySly	be right back	08:14
posingaspopular	try just logging in and out	08:14
GerrySly	ok	08:14
DarkLegacy	Kubuntu rocks	08:21
maduser	yeah	08:22
posingaspopular	yea	08:26
fildo	hey can i run the nvidia-glx pkg on gutsy compared to nvidia-glx-new	08:31
kaankee	hi can anyone plz help me on how to set environment variables in kubuntu linux	08:32
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squarebottle	I turned my computer on, and now there's no sound. How can I manually start the sound server?	08:32
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flaccid	fildo: i believe so	08:33
flaccid	remove and purge the package	08:33
fildo	flaccid: i think thats a negative	08:33
flaccid	then install nvidia-glx	08:33
flaccid	no	08:33
flaccid	!info nvidia-glx	08:33
ubotu	nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1:1.0.9639+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4387 kB, installed size 13352 kB	08:33
ardchoille	fildo: yes, you can. I am running it on 11 boxes here	08:33
fildo	ok.	08:33
flaccid	its available sir	08:33
squarebottle	Does anybody know how to start the arts sound server?	08:33
ardchoille	kaankee: Put the variables in ~/.bashrc	08:34
fildo	ok rebootus	08:35
ardchoille	No need to reboot	08:35
ardchoille	Too late	08:35
flaccid	well i disagree	08:35
flaccid	but yeah	08:35
ardchoille	Reboot for a graphics driver install? Not needed	08:35
flaccid	i've needed to reboot to get glx libs refreshed in past	08:35
flaccid	no idea why..	08:36
ardchoille	You only need to restart xorg: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart	08:36
flaccid	thats what i thought	08:36
flaccid	i've only needed to do this on ubuntu but	08:36
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ardchoille	That's the proper way, if it doesn't work, then you've done something wrong.	08:37
squarebottle	ardchoille: You wouldn't happen to know how I'd start the aRTs sound server thing, would you?	08:37
flaccid	i wouldn't say that at all. i know what im doing	08:37
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ardchoille	squarebottle: No, sorry, I don't use sound. Mine probably doesn't even work.	08:37
ardchoille	flaccid: ok	08:37
fildo	flaccid: negatory,	08:38
fildo	using the glx driver also dose the same thing as nvidia-glx-new .. lets you login, and crashes and throws me back to login screen	08:38
ardchoille	fildo: Anything interesting in ~/.xsession-errors ?	08:39
fildo	ill check	08:39
flaccid	fildo: have you checked that you are using the right driver for your video card. just because it crashes doesn't conclude anything..	08:40
flaccid	if both drivers are crashing then the problem is likely something else	08:40
ariel	$ /usr/bin/artsd -F 11 -S 4096 -a alsa -d -b 16 -s 10 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f	08:40
flaccid	hectic	08:41
fildo	brb dinner	08:41
fildo	then ill attack this prob	08:41
flaccid	cool	08:42
kaankee	i am not able to find ~/.bashrc file in kubuntu linux... may i know where it can be found	08:50
luisbg_	I know it is a strange question but I must contact him for some Ubuntu related stuff... who is the project lead of Kubuntu?	09:00
kaankee	where can i find ~/.bashrc file??? is present by default or should we create it???	09:00
stdin	kaankee: that should be there by default	09:01
stdin	luisbg_: head in to #kubuntu-devel	09:01
luisbg_	stdin, thanks	09:01
phpcode	how can i get the stats (down-/up-load) on my kubuntu? (possible?)	09:12
stdin	phpcode: install something like knetload	09:14
GerrySly	could somebody help me out, I changed the sound on amarok to 5.1 but now it doesn't play at all, I went to change it back and there is no options at all, it's a clear combo box	09:14
phpcode	stdin: ok, thx =D	09:15
posingaspopular	GerrySly: back again?	09:22
posingaspopular	how do you change the sound	09:23
GerrySly	yeah back again :)	09:23
posingaspopular	GerrySly: check alsamixer in konsole and see what you see in there	09:23
GerrySly	ok	09:23
GerrySly	alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device	09:24
GerrySly	hmm that's awkward	09:24
posingaspopular	wait, alsa didn't open?	09:29
GerrySly	didn't look like it, I am trying something now	09:30
GerrySly	posingaspopular: how would I permanently mount a windows filesystem?	09:42
GerrySly	everytime I restart my comp it unmounts the system	09:42
GerrySly	I used mount /dev/sdb5 /media/windows -t ntfs	09:43
llutz	GerrySly: add a line to /etc/fstab	09:43
GerrySly	ok cheers	09:43
posingaspopular	ah yea llutz got it for me	09:47
posingaspopular	GerrySly: figure out that audio yet?	09:49
GerrySly	no not yet	09:50
House	this is getting on my nerves its been weeks i just feel talking about it in public	09:54
House	i cant install themes. i get errors tell me if im doing this wrong . i download file then open Kcontrol and try to install a theme . and how the hell can u install akicker aswel :/ why they dont put a guide man in kde-look they give the products with no guide wt	09:56
House	anybody?	09:58
habdel	House: Is theme you are trying to install an archive ?	09:59
House	ya	09:59
habdel	House: and you are trying to install style theme, isn't ?	09:59
House	i want to change this default look man , its good the look but i want it to be slicker	09:59
posingaspopular	House: which release?	09:59
House	i have kubuntu gutsy	09:59
House	i just want to change this panel the color the look and the kicker ( K ) and how it looks inside when you press it ... also icons and fonts :S	10:00
House	am i asking alot :(	10:00
llutz	!themes	10:00
ubotu	Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy	10:00
llutz	!changethemes	10:00
ubotu	To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy. Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes	10:00
llutz	house ^^	10:01
House	yes i just downloaded about 8 themes to tesst non can be installed	10:01
llutz	House: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu	10:01
habdel	House: Themes in kde have to be either compiled or installed using apt	10:01
habdel	House: but icons, or fonts can be easily changed	10:01
House	why isnt just double click	10:02
House	or a program called Theme-installer why not make such thing for KDE	10:02
llutz	House: feel free to code such app	10:02
habdel	House: different theories :p .. however, you can find kubuntu packages very easily on the internet	10:02
House	i thought Kubuntu shouldbe easier then Ubuntu , btw with ubuntu installing themse is very easy drag and release and its done	10:02
House	what do you mean by compile?	10:03
llutz	kubuntu uses KDE instead of Gnome, why should it be easier? it's just different	10:03
House	should i extract the folder to somewere like .theme folder in home ? or osmething	10:03
House	then it will locate it > so things are done manually o_0 ?	10:03
kite	hello, everyone	10:03
habdel	House: no, it is source code written in c++ and you have to compile it then install it	10:03
House	il be damned this is KDE or HAR(DE)	10:04
habdel	House: hehe, tell me which theme you are interested in ! maybe I can help you with that	10:04
Pilot_	Pilot: please stop using my nickname, you are still keeping doing so for about 6 months	10:04
kite	who know how to enable 3d support for ati mobile 7500	10:04
House	=p vista	10:04
Pilot_	Pilot: do something useful instead	10:04
llutz	Pilot_: ghost him	10:05
habdel	House: can you write down the link ?	10:05
House	well its because this computer is for house and my family wants vista i dont want them to buy it i told them i can do it :)	10:05
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House	sure habdel	10:05
* Pilot . o O (burn in hell)		10:06
House	btw habdel do i need superkaramba?	10:07
House	this is the link http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Vista+makeover?content=43430	10:08
habdel	House: no need unless you want some gadgets on your desktop	10:08
habdel	House: ok then let's do it step by step, are you with me !	10:11
habdel	House: first install kde-style-polyester using synaptic , or directly using command line "sudo apt -get install kde-style-polyester"	10:12
House	doe	10:13
House	done	10:13
habdel	House: now go to systemsettings or kcontrol => appearance => Style	10:13
GerrySly	posingaspopular: it seems that my sound is trying to go through my television card	10:13
House	ok	10:14
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habdel	House: Polyester widget style from the drop down list	10:14
House	yes	10:14
House	applied	10:14
tommy`	hello guys, I've problem with KDE, I can't add sound control on my tray applet	10:15
habdel	House: if you want colored menu bar then you have to configure it, do you want that !	10:15
House	i want my desktop to be like this http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-m3/m43430-3.png	10:16
habdel	House: ok then, press the configure button on the right then select the following settings . General => Button Style: Glass button, Advance => menubar emphasis => custom color : "color youwant"	10:18
House	wow	10:21
House	but my important is the Panel down it looks terrible :S	10:21
tommy`	habdel: can you help me with kmix please?	10:22
habdel	House: that's an easy issue, just right click on the panel => appearance => Enable background image	10:23
posingaspopular	ummm	10:23
posingaspopular	GerrySly: wow	10:23
habdel	tommy`: what exactly are trying to add ?	10:23
posingaspopular	head desk right? i've never seen that, but try device manager and see if you can fix it in there	10:23
tommy`	habdel: nothing particular, but after I restar my session, the Kmix icon disappear	10:24
posingaspopular	kmenu->system-> Kubuntu device manager	10:24
habdel	tommy`: if you try to run again, does it run ?	10:24
GerrySly	cheers	10:24
habdel	tommy`: I mean if your run kmix does it appear in your system tray ?	10:25
GerrySly	hmm I don't have a device manager, just Device Database	10:25
tommy`	habdel: yes, if I run, it appears,, but If I reboot it doesnt' on my tray	10:26
posingaspopular	ah device database is the one you want	10:27
GerrySly	yeah I went into that and it just went through, the test sound didn't play and it then sent some data to a server and shutdown	10:28
habdel	tommy`: ok then you need to add to the autostart applications either by creating ~/.kde/Autostart/kmix.desktop or my by saving your current session	10:28
House	im using emerald theme its easy to dothat habdel	10:28
House	but the X maximize and minimize appear very very small	10:28
habdel	House: it depends on the theme you are using, some you can configure	10:29
posingaspopular	hmm that's not it GerrySly	10:29
tommy`	habdel: how can I saving my session?	10:29
posingaspopular	system settings->sound system	10:29
posingaspopular	tab over to hardware	10:29
GerrySly	the audio device is Auto Detect	10:30
posingaspopular	there should be a dropbox	10:31
posingaspopular	see if that you can change and detect	10:31
habdel	tommy`: go to system settings => Advanced => session Manager	10:31
GerrySly	which audio device, none of them sound right	10:31
posingaspopular	or you might have to override the device location	10:31
GerrySly	do I set it to the asounds.conf file I created?	10:31
posingaspopular	hmm i duno	10:32
habdel	tommy`: from the list of On login select your desired behavior	10:32
posingaspopular	we're getting about my skill set here	10:32
posingaspopular	GerrySly: you can try popping into the ubuntustudio chan and asking in there	10:32
GerrySly	heh ok thanks anyway	10:32
GerrySly	ok	10:32
posingaspopular	they are prob. a million times better at this stuff than i am	10:32
GerrySly	they'll help even through I'm using kubuntu?	10:33
posingaspopular	yea of course	10:33
posingaspopular	if it's an audio device, it's most likely a kernel issue anyway	10:34
tommy`	habdel: I haven't that	10:34
habdel	tommy`: ok then let's try the other approach, copy "/usr/share/applications/kde/kmix.desktop" to your ~/.kde/Autostart/ folder	10:37
GerrySly	what was that command you told me to use posingaspopular?	10:37
GerrySly	to check the sound card ?	10:37
tommy`	habdel: I'ce copied that	10:39
tommy`	I've*	10:39
posingaspopular	lspci ?	10:39
House	omg :( habdel	10:39
House	my computer is small now like an ant	10:39
habdel	tommy`: you can try it out rightnow, just logout then log in again .. no need to restart the system	10:39
tommy`	I try to restart my session	10:40
habdel	House: hehe, what have you done !	10:40
posingaspopular	alsamixer ?	10:40
House	the minmize maximize close is small my firefox also	10:40
House	i dont remember	10:40
habdel	House: do you mean the buttons are small, or fonts ? or the resolution !	10:41
House	the buttons	10:41
House	my firefox the tabs look small also	10:41
House	file edit view is small also	10:41
House	the address bar is small the font also	10:42
House	btw the panel change the background isnt enough , i want to change the whole look of it and the kicker aswell	10:42
habdel	House: Those are gnome-settings related, have you run any gnome application	10:42
tommy`	habdel: ok works	10:43
habdel	House: if you mean the menu, then you need to install kbfx using synaptics	10:43
habdel	tommy`: glad to hear that ! enjoy	10:43
tommy`	habdel: I've another question, why after reboot many application open on my KDE?	10:44
habdel	tommy`: It seems that you have a saved session which reloads every time you log in	10:45
tommy`	habdel: can I delete it?	10:45
habdel	tommy`: first, is the set of application the same or does it change depending on what you had on the previous session	10:46
habdel	application*	10:46
tommy`	habdel: I don't understand sorry	10:47
habdel	tommy`: ok .. the applications that start with kde, are they always the same everytime you log in ?	10:48
tommy`	habdel: mmm on depends.... yesterday I've many "Ksudo" today Konversation, amarok, and damn skype	10:49
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habdel	tommy`: I see, so kde stores you previous session on the next log in	10:49
tommy`	yeah	10:50
tommy`	maybe	10:50
habdel	tommy`: what you need is to modify the settings of the session manager ! do you have kcontrol	10:50
tommy`	habdel: I've check "start a new session" on Kcontrol (I mean, because my KDE language is not english)	10:53
jussio1	!sound	10:54
ubotu	If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	10:54
habdel	tommy`: it should mean something close to "start empty session "	10:54
posingaspopular	amarok can't take organize my songs, but it can transfer them to ipod... great	10:54
tommy`	habdel: yes, I've checked that	10:55
habdel	tommy`: try it out ! log in and log out	10:55
* posingaspopular heads off and hopes #kubuntu doesn't get too busy		10:55
tommy`	habdel: ok I try immediately	10:56
tommy`	habdel: damn :( kmix icon disappear	10:57
habdel	tommy`: hehe, but the rest of applications are gone, aren't they?	10:58
tommy`	habdel: yes habdel	10:58
habdel	tommy`: check if kmix.desktop is still under ~/.kde/Autostart/	10:58
tommy`	habdel: my god, neither yakuake works now :(	10:59
habdel	tommy`: that what empty session means. However, you can tell kde to start them for you if you placed them under .kde/Autostart	11:00
roland	hello	11:01
tommy`	habdel: ../Autostart is empty	11:01
roland	can somebody to help me	11:01
roland	?	11:01
habdel	tommy`: I mean ~/.kde/Autostart ? is it empty	11:01
tommy`	yes	11:01
roland	i have problem with my kubuntu	11:01
roland	7.10	11:01
roland	my ram usage is 94%, but my swap is 14-15% used	11:02
habdel	tommy`: ok, which applications you want to start on your log in ? yakuake, kmix and others ?	11:02
tommy`	habdel: yes	11:02
roland	sorry for my english :S	11:02
SSJ_GZ	roland: What is the problem?	11:03
roland	SSJ_GZ: my ram usage is 94%, but my swap is 14-15% used	11:03
roland	it is verry slow	11:03
tommy`	habdel: yakuake and kmix are suff	11:03
SSJ_GZ	roland: I mean, I don't unerstand why this is a problem :)	11:03
SSJ_GZ	*understand	11:04
habdel	tommy`: ok, do the following in konsole . "cp /usr/share/applications/kde/kmix.desktop ~/.kde/Autostart"	11:04
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roland	SSJ_GZ: my pc: p4 1.7, 256mb ddr ram	11:04
habdel	tommy`: also "cp /usr/share/applications/kde/yakuake.desktop ~/.kde/Autostart/	11:05
tommy`	habdel: ok, I try to restart?	11:05
habdel	tommy`: now you should have two files under ~/.kde/Autostart/, kmix.desktop and yakuake.desktop	11:05
roland	when i start many aplications in one time, my pc is going to die... :S	11:05
roland	for example: xmms player, firefox	11:06
kpr	Wow..ancient piece of crud then, ain't it?	11:06
tommy`	habdel: yes I've them	11:06
habdel	tommy`: ok, try it out	11:06
tommy`	I restart session	11:06
roland	somebody?	11:10
habdel	roland: KDE is a little too much for 256MB of RAM, maybe you should try xfce	11:11
roland	realy?	11:11
habdel	roland: or try to get red of firefox and use konqueror instead !	11:11
roland	then i should try this? sudo apt-get install xfce?	11:11
tommy`	habdel: ok now works all	11:12
habdel	roland: in theory yes	11:12
habdel	tommy`: good ;)	11:12
tommy`	habdel: thanks my sensei	11:12
habdel	tommy`: hehe, welcome naruto :p	11:12
tommy`	habdel: hhaahahahha	11:13
roland	thx, i will try it....	11:13
tommy`	habdel: what's your favourite website for kde styling? kde-look.org?	11:13
habdel	roland: good luck :D	11:14
habdel	tommy`: yep, it is the best for kde. However, sometimes I compile from sources	11:14
tommy`	habdel: I'm looking for a good style, so you have something prefered?	11:17
habdel	tommy`: yep. domino style with edge configuration	11:18
* habdel "looking for the style link"		11:18
habdel	tommy`: this is the link http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Edge?content=67383	11:19
habdel	tommy`: and this is a screenshot of my desktop http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Edgy+Edge+?content=68075	11:19
tommy`	habdel: very good!!	11:20
tommy`	habdel: I try to add those styles	11:22
habdel	tommy`: good luck, you will need it ;)	11:23
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SatManUK	what program do you recomend for opening .daa archives? (it seems to be some kind of DVD Avi Archive	11:47
Neoxeekhrobe	Guys, I have enabled mouse keys(CTRL+SHIFT+NUMLOCK), how can I speed up move movement. Its very slow?	11:55
Neoxeekhrobe	mouse movement, that is.	11:57
gideon_	hello ;)	12:14
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GradeFPoultry	!linux-swap	12:21
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-swap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	12:21
GradeFPoultry	!qtparted error	12:21
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted error - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	12:21
GradeFPoultry	Gau/	12:21
GradeFPoultry	>_>	12:21
GradeFPoultry	Gay.	12:21
SatManUK	GradeFPoultry: wassup?	12:21
GradeFPoultry	Heh, nothing.	12:21
SatManUK	ok..	12:21
GradeFPoultry	Just new to Linux and trying to repartition...	12:22
GradeFPoultry	Not working out...	12:22
SatManUK	use auto repartition	12:23
SatManUK	it works better than manual	12:23
GradeFPoultry	Ah, but I want to keep my Windows XP files.	12:23
GradeFPoultry	#debian	12:26
SatManUK	thats why i said use auto repartition it shrinks windows	12:26
GradeFPoultry	Woops >_>	12:26
GradeFPoultry	Oh really?	12:26
SatManUK	to make the partition	12:26
SatManUK	are you installing debian or kubunu?	12:26
SatManUK	if your installing Kubuntu from the livd cd it should solve your problems.	12:27
GradeFPoultry	I'm running Kubuntu right now, but I'd like to end up in Debian.	12:27
GradeFPoultry	I just have the Kubuntu .iso burned to a DVDR.	12:28
ActionParsnip	hi all	12:28
GradeFPoultry	Hello.	12:28
GradeFPoultry	MOTD [<server>]	12:32
GradeFPoultry	=p	12:32
zecke1989	moin	12:35
ubuntu_	Okay, I'm using the auto partition.	12:43
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GradeFPoultry	It's taking a long ass time.	12:43
GradeFPoultry	0% =\|	12:43
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ActionParsnip	GradeFPoultry: how big is your drive?	12:45
GradeFPoultry	230 Gigs.	12:45
ActionParsnip	GradeFPoultry: yep thats a fair chunk to format	12:46
GradeFPoultry	=P	12:47
ActionParsnip	GradeFPoultry: is it SATA or PATA?	12:47
GradeFPoultry	SATA.	12:47
lovre	does any1 know how to fix the tray icon problem? my icons that are supposed be in tray often float around on desktop...	12:48
GradeFPoultry	My progress bar is still at 0%...should I be concerned?	12:51
ActionParsnip	GradeFPoultry: you on a desktop or laptop?	12:51
GradeFPoultry	Desktop.	12:51
GradeFPoultry	Eh, should I be typing ActionParsnip: before everything I say to you?	12:51
ActionParsnip	GradeFPoultry: it just makes it highlight but isnt essential	12:52
ActionParsnip	GradeFPoultry: use tab to autocomplete the name too	12:52
GradeFPoultry	Alright.	12:52
ActionParsnip	GradeFPoultry: is your hard drive light flashing / on?	12:52
GradeFPoultry	Yes.	12:53
GradeFPoultry	Oh...apparantly it finished o_O	12:54
GradeFPoultry	Who am I? =D	12:54
ActionParsnip	GradeFPoultry: yeah type your name in and stuff like that, you are creating a user	12:59
GradeFPoultry	I know.	12:59
GradeFPoultry	Heh.	12:59
ActionParsnip	GradeFPoultry: all good so far?	13:00
GradeFPoultry	Fine.	13:00
ActionParsnip	GradeFPoultry: do you have a wireless NIC in this system?	13:00
GradeFPoultry	Nope.	13:00
ActionParsnip	GradeFPoultry: cool	13:00
GradeFPoultry	What's an easy way to transfer my windows files over to Kubuntu? Online file storage?	13:01
ActionParsnip	GradeFPoultry: if you are on the same network you can simply share the folder on the Windows system and access them from your KUbuntu box :D	13:02
GradeFPoultry	Oh, yay =D	13:03
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GradeFPoultry	Kopete always crashes when I try to connect to MSN :'(	13:08
GradeFPoultry	I guess I'll get Pidgin.	13:08
ActionParsnip	GradeFPoultry: if youonly use msn try aMSN	13:09
GradeFPoultry	Nah, I use AIM/MSN/Yahoo.	13:09
ActionParsnip	GradeFPoultry: then pidgin is definitely the way	13:10
GradeFPoultry	=P	13:10
GradeFPoultry	Time to reboot.	13:10
GradeFPoultry	Hopefully all my XP files are still there.	13:10
GradeFPoultry	See everyone in a mo'.	13:11
Gast174	Wie und wo kann man einstellen, dass sich der Benutzer automatisch anmeldet?	13:22
stdin	!de	13:22
ubotu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	13:22
gsuveg	re	13:35
gsuveg	how can i enable automount within kde ?	13:35
gsuveg	if i plug a cd i would like mount cd if i plug it in	13:35
sebby	hi	13:45
sebby	2 all	13:45
sebby	i have a question , i`m tryind to install wine on my kubuntu and fails and in past worked with "sudo apt get install wine	13:47
sebby	annyone knows why>	13:47
sebby	?	13:48
bentob0x	anyway to bring back Konqueror as filemanager istead of Dull-phin?	13:48
stdin	!dolphin \| bentob0x	13:48
ubotu	bentob0x: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.	13:48
bentob0x	thx stdin	13:49
bentob0x	just bring back the side tree view in Dolphin and it might cut it	13:49
Whiteheat	hi - how do you stop the one click opeining of files in konqueror - used to be an option in konq config - cant find it anymore	13:54
sebby	i have a question , i`m trying to install wine on my kubuntu and fails and in past worked with "sudo apt get install wine	13:55
sebby	annyone knows why>	13:55
stdin	Whiteheat: system settings > keyboard & mouse > mouse	13:56
genii	sebby: Make sure universe repository is enabled	13:57
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sebby	in sources.list?	13:57
Whiteheat	stdin - in konq or linux?	13:57
stdin	Whiteheat: in system settings, from the KMenu	13:57
genii	sebby: Yes, or in adept or other package manager you may use	13:58
Whiteheat	stdin - found it - thanks mate - that did the trick!	13:58
sebby	i have there 2 or 3 lines saying main restricted	14:00
sebby	rest of them r modified by me i added to universe multiverse	14:01
genii	sebby: Does sudo apt-get update work?	14:02
sebby	i think i found the problem	14:04
sebby	i`ve uncommeted the lines with main restricted and i think that`s why	14:05
sebby	W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com etch Release: Următoarele semnături n-au putut fi verificate datorită cheii publice care este indisponibilă: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263	14:06
sebby	W: Aţi putea vrea să porniţi 'apt-get update' pentru a corecta aceste probleme.	14:06
sebby	:(	14:06
sebby	now what can i do	14:07
stdin	sebby: "wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- \| sudo apt-key add - "	14:07
* genii hands stdin a coffee		14:08
sebby	i`ve did that but it`s the same	14:08
stdin	I've probably had enough by now, but i'll still drink it	14:08
sebby	oot@und3rground:~# wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O-	14:10
sebby	\| sudo apt-key add -	14:10
sebby	OK	14:10
sebby	root@und3rground:~# sudo apt-get install wine	14:10
sebby	itire liste de pachete... Terminat	14:10
sebby	Se construieşte arborele de dependenţă... Terminat	14:10
sebby	Unele pachete n-au putut fi instalate. Aceasta ar putea însemna că aţi cerut	14:10
sebby	o situaţie imposibilă sau că folosiţi distribuţia instabilă în care unele pachet e	14:10
sebby	Următoarele pachete au dependenţe neîndeplinite:	14:10
sebby	wine: Depinde: libasound2 (> 1.0.12) dar 1.0.10-2ubuntu4 este pe cale de a fi instalat	14:10
sebby	...	14:11
sebby	...	14:11
stdin	!paste \| sebby	14:11
ubotu	sebby: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	14:11
sebby	i says that some of the packets couldn`t be installed...	14:12
stdin	sebby: what version of kubuntu do you have?	14:12
sebby	i don`t know	14:12
stdin	!version	14:12
ubotu	To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell	14:12
sebby	No LSB modules are available.	14:14
sebby	Distributor ID: Ubuntu	14:14
sebby	Description: Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS	14:14
sebby	Release: 6.06	14:14
sebby	Codename: dapper	14:14
sebby	root@und3rground:~#	14:14
stdin	will you please use the pastebin...	14:14
sebby	k	14:14
sebby	sorry	14:14
stdin	what wine repository do you have in your sources.list?	14:14
sebby	i`ve didn`t writed one	14:15
sebby	because i don`t know	14:15
stdin	well you definitely do have one, either in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list	14:15
sebby	i have a /etc/apt/sources.list	14:16
sebby	but i didn`t filled in a website how i`ve did in past	14:16
stdin	sebby: look for one starting with "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com"	14:18
sebby	were	14:19
sebby	?	14:19