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Stwangeikonia, I considered contacting the technical support, but then I figured if it's the same connection, same MAC address and same card, they probably wouldn't get any extra details at their end (ie then don't know which OS I'm using), so it was probably a ubuntu issue00:00
ikoniasoundray_: thats plausable but it appears to be some sort of credentials auth thats being offered00:00
ikoniaStwange: they will get info as they may see things change in their logs00:00
timewriterim away for a while00:00
soundray_Stwange: but really, I think your network support people should know what you need to do.00:00
soundray_Stwange: unless they are a stubborn blockhead MS shop, which universities fortunately tend not to be.00:01
Stwangethanks ikonia and soundray_. I'll try contacting them, but there's usually limited support for linux00:01
Stwangeyeah :)00:01
ikoniaStwange: it won't matter your OS, your interested in their access logs00:01
ikoniaStwange: shouldn't matter what OS you have, more a case of what's changing in their logs00:01
soundray_Stwange: you just need to find the nerd who's on your side then ;)00:01
FireHazard17Should I use 64 bit? I am using hardy. flash isn't too neccessary.00:02
FireHazard17also I am using gnome.00:02
ikoniaFireHazard17: 1.) why are you using hardy 2.) why do you want 64bit00:02
soundray_FireHazard17: if you have to ask that, I would strongly advise against trying hardy00:02
slimaqhi i have intel 3100 and when i strat movie in fullscreen he laginig00:02
Zionad_FireHazard: 64 bit, is basically a headache, especcially wouldnt try it in hardyy..00:02
slimaqenybody help me?00:02
FireHazard17wow you guys are negative00:03
Stwangethanks ikonia and soundray_. I've gtg, but if they don't fix it I'll be back Schwarzenegger style ;)00:03
ikoniaFireHazard17: no, we are realistic in offering sound advice00:03
Zionad_Exactly00:03
SlartFireHazard17: 32-bit gutsy would be a more ... pleasurable experience =).. less bumps on the way..00:03
sainzeoslimaq: please ask your question00:03
slimaq i have intel 3100 and when i strat movie in fullscreen he laginig00:03
FireHazard17If it wasn't for trying new unstable thing 7/10 of us wouldn't be using linux00:03
soundray_FireHazard17: no, we just hear the squeals of people who have burnt themselves with alpha software everyday. So any pre-alpha software will probably be worse.00:03
ikoniaslimaq: is the movie hd00:03
bulmeranyone here uses ipv6? i just started using tunnelbroker, i cant semm to ping6 another ipv6 address..you have one I can test to ping?00:03
slimaqno00:04
slimaqavi00:04
FireHazard17soundray_: ok00:04
ikoniaFireHazard17: thats nosense00:04
Templarhow do i exit xserver and kill opengl00:04
FireHazard17ikonia: oh really?00:04
ikoniaFireHazard17: yes, really00:04
|rly|the wiki doesn't help a bit00:04
n15t0timewriter:can u help me out?00:04
FireHazard17ok then00:04
SlartFireHazard17: but if you don't mind tinkering.. compiling.. bug-reporting and such.. go ahead with 64-bit hardy00:04
soundray_FireHazard17: unfortunately your question indicates that you're not one of the select few who will negotiate the hurdles successfully.00:04
bulmerTemplar-> you can /etc/init.d/gdm stop?00:04
ikoniaFireHazard17: use what you want, but remember you will get no support for hardy as a user00:04
FireHazard17Slart: I love doing those things00:04
ikoniaFireHazard17: you have the warnings and the options, do with it as you will00:05
desertcFireHazard17: Give it a shot!!  Just create a new partition and you can leave an existing partition available for fall-back.00:05
SlartFireHazard17: then don't let us stop you.. go install 64bit hardy00:05
soundray_FireHazard17: go ahead then, and remember the IRC channel is #ubuntu+100:05
FireHazard1760% of my software is compiled from source anyway00:05
ikoniaFireHazard17: then you will break your package manager. good luck00:05
Zionad_Then you are welcome to try firehazard!00:05
Zionad_Haha, oh wow00:05
soundray_ikonia: I agree, we are negative ;)00:06
ikoniahaving a package manager conflict in a fast changing development release = doom00:06
* IndyGunFreak agrees w/ ikonia00:06
SlartFireHazard17: just out of curiosity.. why ubuntu.. why not slackware.. fedora centos.. or something else where you get to do all that stuff..00:06
FireHazard17I don't know00:06
n15t0ikonia:can i set my status away in bitchx?00:06
FireHazard17never took the time to switch00:06
ikonian15t0: thats not allowed in #ubuntu00:06
soundray_Slart: add Debian Sid to the list ( FireHazard17)00:07
SlartFireHazard17: or one of those.. "build if from the ground and up"-distros00:07
n15t0ikonia:okay but just that i know how can i do it?00:07
ikonian15t0: you can00:07
n15t0ikonia:i wont do it in this cahnnel00:07
ikonian15t0: its server wide, you can't set it on a per-channel basis00:07
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n15t0ikonia:okay thx00:08
kev_bCan anyone tell me why in Bluefish the tabs aren't draggable but this says they are: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TabConsistency ?00:08
SlartDebian.. are they still at Sid? sheesh I used sid.. must have been a couple of years ago00:08
n15t0ikonia:and can i save my settings in bitchx? like the name and the server?00:08
ikonian15t0: for the 10th time, yes00:08
ikonian15t0: you've asked that about 10 times00:08
ikonian15t0: either learn to listen and make notes, or stop asking the same question over and over00:09
* Slart install bluefish00:09
n15t0its my second time00:09
n15t0because i didnt get an answer00:09
ikonian15t0: no its not00:09
ikonian15t0: 5 people answered you, and you thanked 2, I have it in my logs00:09
n15t0well then i was away00:09
sainzeodo you guys recommend using Bluefish in ubuntu or nvu?00:09
fred_join #compiz-fusion00:10
n15t0sry00:10
Slartkev_b: hmm.. I can't drag my tabs either.. let's check that link.. perhaps it's for a newer version00:10
n15t0-c <#ubuntu>00:11
soundray_n15t0: asking for help, then ignoring the help is incredibly rude. Being "sry" is not enough.00:11
Dr_willisBitchX has a large # of web sites covreing its ussage also.00:12
VSpikeThis makes cheery reading : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVDAuthoring00:12
n15t0i am just looking for the infos i get00:12
n15t0i cant be at 2 different shells at one time00:12
Dr_willisn15t0,  with 'screen' you can. :)00:12
Dr_willis!info screen00:13
ubotuscreen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 984 kB00:13
Slartkev_b: nope.. can't drag any tabs.. despite the wiki claiming I should be able to.. perhaps they just made a mistake when making that list..00:13
amir__helo00:13
amir__somebody there00:14
n15t0anything in german00:14
desertc!hi | amir__00:14
ubotuamir__: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!00:14
n15t0-.-00:14
ikoniayes, many00:14
Slartamieyes.. we're here00:14
n15t0its quite difficult00:14
amir__thanx00:14
Slartoops.. sorry.. amir__00:14
amir__i need some help00:14
ikoniaamir__: then ask a question00:14
amir__how can i install a program00:14
amir__a software00:14
Dr_willis'depends' :)00:14
soundray_amir__: what program?00:14
ikoniaamir__: use the package manager, such as "synaptic"00:14
amir__autocad00:14
n15t0-c00:15
ikonian15t0: why do you keep saying "-c"00:15
soundray_amir__: forget it, it won't run on Linux. Stick with Windows or Mac OS00:15
zaxiushow do you edit what services are running, like ssh, ftp, etc00:15
mrfantasticanyone have any success with compiz in xubuntu with a mobility radeon m6?00:15
|rly|I cannot be heard on skype, I've tried all that comes in the wiki... nothing works00:15
Slartamir__: I don't think autocad is available for ubuntu.. there might be an open source alternative.. I don't know00:15
amir__thank u very much00:15
ikoniazaxius: netstat -a |grep LISTEN00:15
amir__another question00:15
ikoniazaxius: ps -ef | more00:15
VSpikeamir_: there was a recent article in LXF about cad on linux00:15
amir__wireless...how can i intall the driver00:16
n15t0because in the man bitchx stands that -c channel then i can automatically join the cahnnel00:16
zaxiusikonia: no but how do you edit them? like if i want to make the ssh daemon run by default at bootup00:16
Dr_willis!info qcad00:16
ubotuqcad: A professional CAD System. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.5.0-1-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2954 kB, installed size 12648 kB00:16
dabluemanHELLO, any ubuntu developers in here00:16
ikonian15t0: you keep doing it in the wrong window00:16
ikoniadablueman: just ask your question00:16
amir__thanks00:16
Dr_willisn15t0,  right so ya would do BitchX -c #ubuntu or somthing like that..00:16
amir__wireless problem00:16
Dr_willisn15t0,  its a COMMAND line option to BitchX00:17
n15t0iknoia:in which window then?00:17
mpattershi all00:17
ikonian15t0: one that BitchX isn't running in00:17
scguy318dablueman: Ubuntu devs don't usually hang out here I think00:17
n15t0k00:17
dabluemanvery well, why is it that only security bugs get fixed in ubuntu and not other bugs00:17
ikoniascguy318: there are a few in00:17
amir__some help with wireless problem00:17
zaxiusikonia, do you know?00:17
ikoniadablueman: bugs do get fixed00:17
tonyyarussodablueman: All get fixed.00:17
Dr_willisthats what backports is for.00:17
dabluemanoh yeah, like what00:17
ikoniadablueman: security ones will get a higher priority normally due to it being a security issue00:17
Dr_willisisent it.00:17
ikoniadablueman: go into launchapd and view closed bugs00:18
amir__i need help with the wireless00:18
dabluemanfor example00:18
sidelilcan anybody suggest me a good guide for shell scripting? Thanks00:18
tupsonhi, my Appearance Preferences have been "Extra" enabled, how do I get the CUBE to function? my windows get the enhanced effect, but i cant get the CUBE to work00:18
stdindablueman: have a look on the bugteacker, there are many non-security bugs fixed00:18
dabluemanslow dns lookups in every aplication that uses net work00:18
ikoniasidelil: http://www.tldp.org - good guides00:18
soundray_sidelil: /join #bash and read the topic there.00:18
amir__the cube00:18
ikoniadablueman: where is that bug logged00:18
dabluemani will check this launchepad00:18
VSpikesidelil: google for advanced bash scripting guide00:19
Slartdablueman: wasn't that a ipv6 issue? seem to recall something like that00:19
dabluemanit is on there00:19
ikoniadablueman: dns lookups are very quikc on my ubuntu machines, please post the log00:19
tonyyarussodablueman: most of us don't actually memorize thousands of bug ID numbers, believe it or not.00:19
dabluemanhas it been committed to the main ubuntu tree00:19
ikoniatonyyarusso: speak for yourself mortal00:19
tupsonamir: yea the ubuntu cube effects00:19
sidelilthank you all!00:19
tonyyarussoikonia: Sorry, that space in my head is keeping track of irssi windows.  :P00:19
dabluemancan we go private devs to speak of this00:19
ikoniadablueman: please show me the bug00:19
ikoniadablueman: no, speak in the channel00:20
dabluemanok wait 30 secs00:20
Slartdablueman: they fix bugs.. they might not fix a specific bug right away.. but eventually they'll get to it.. if you want it fixed, have a go at it yourself.. or if you've got lots of cash hire someone to do it..00:20
n15t0okay,so thx to all who helped me with my problems00:20
n15t0gn8 everyone00:20
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Slartgood night n15t000:21
n15t0and have fun with ubuntu00:21
n15t0good night Slart00:21
n15t0cya all00:21
tupsonin ubuntu 7.10, what is the cube keystroke?00:21
dabluemanhere is the said bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/15539300:21
permanoiai added a display on my user. now when i log in my bars dont come up etc for gnome and i cant do anything... where is the gnome-control-center file located?00:21
Slarttupson: middle mouse button I think.. you can change it in the compiz configuration thingy00:22
Falicanhow do i create a short cut to open an ssh session? I created a launcher with the command ssh -X foo@foo.com and it throws up a dialog for the password then nothing opens after that . . .00:22
dabluemanim a college student, and that bug inhibits my usability and productivity00:22
ikoniadablueman: please show us the bug report00:22
dabluemanhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/15539300:22
some_idiotdoes ubuntu have only support for running ia32 apps ... but not for building ia32 apps?00:22
Dr_willisFalican,  could make it run 'xterm -e YOURCOMMANDS'00:22
ikoniasimon360_: ia32 is dead, if you have an ia32 platform gcc will build it00:23
magnetronsome_idiot: the ia32 can build ia32 apps for sure!00:23
FalicanDr_willis: thnx that sounds good i guess . . . fedora's launch had a run in shell option :P00:23
some_idiotdoes ubuntu have only support for running ia32 apps ... but not for building ia32 apps? ... sorry, I meant when I'm running on amd6400:23
heatmzzrwell im not no professional but i cant play this dvd to save my butt, shows everything installed i need i believe.00:23
Dr_willisFalican,  ive seen similer optuion in kde. not sure about gnome.00:23
dabluemanheatmzzr: see the ubuntu wiki00:24
ikoniadablueman: there is a work around in place and a fix in the next release.00:24
dabluemannext release!!???00:24
Extraverthello I have a problem with my sound.  At random times my sound does not work.  It may be from certain running software but it seems that my drivers are broken.  When I change the sound volumes, the icon shows that its being muted and unmuted.  Any help?00:24
dabluemanyou mean hardyheron00:24
ikoniadablueman: yes00:24
dabluemanI have to wait that long for this to be fixed?00:24
Slartheatmzzr: what media player are you using?00:24
ikoniadablueman: yes, it may get back ported00:24
ikoniadablueman: there is a work around detailed in that bug report00:24
dabluemanJust FYI, I already fixed it for me, but what about every other Ubuntu user out there?00:25
dabluemanThey are being plagued by this.00:25
ikoniadablueman: there is a work around in the bug report and a fix is being released and back ported00:25
FalicanDr_willis: yeah gnome had it .  . . *shrug* -e works fine thnx :)00:25
dabluemanYes, I understand, but why doesn't it get updated by the little update tool that I have installed on my system :(00:26
tupsonQuestion, I have just installed Ubuntu 7.10, my ATL Raedon 9600 card is running the latest drivers and i have xerver-xgl installed, however under System > Pref > I dont have the "Desktop Effects" option to enable Desktop Cube, help?00:26
ikoniadablueman because the fix hasn't been released yet00:26
dabluemanbut we know the fix00:26
ikoniadablueman: do you ?00:26
dabluemanyes00:26
Slarttupson: hmm.. there is a package for the config utility.. compiz-manager or something.. hang on00:27
ikoniadablueman: thats not what the bug says00:27
ikoniadablueman: if you want an update, post a request in the book update00:27
Slart!info compizconfig-settings-manager | tupson00:27
ubotutupson: compizconfig-settings-manager: Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 498 kB, installed size 3268 kB00:27
dabluemanI have it fixed on my machine00:27
ikoniadablueman: that is "your" fix00:27
Slarttupson: install that00:27
Extraverthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/13683700:27
dabluemanWhere is this book update?00:27
tupsonwill that be listed in the software source?00:27
ikoniadablueman: update it on launchapd00:27
ikonialaunchpad00:27
Slarttupson: yes.. it's in the repos00:27
dabluemanOkay wait, I will show you my fix.00:28
whileimhereHi. When I try to use emule it reports that I am behind a firewall. I know that the router has a firewall turned off. Is there one in Ubuntu hidden?00:28
Slarttupson: you can do "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager"00:28
ikoniadablueman: I'm not interested in your fix00:28
dabluemannot really my fix, but I did contirbute00:28
ikoniadablueman: update the launchpad bug00:28
dabluemanvery well00:28
ikoniadablueman: you will have another work around, not a fix00:28
robri'm runnig ubuntu server and i need to open a port on my firewall, whats the best way to do that?00:28
ikoniadablueman: the fix is pending, if you read ht ebook report00:28
Slartwhileimhere: there is a firewall in linux.. but it's usually "disabled".00:28
ikoniarobr: what firewall are you using00:28
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whileimhereSlart how can I check it?00:28
dabluemana workaround it is then00:28
robrikonia: i don't know the default?00:29
ikoniadablueman: there is already a work around in the bug report00:29
Slartwhileimhere: you can check by running "sudo iptables -L" if there are more than about 3 lines of output it's probably active00:29
ikoniarobr: there is no firewall running by default00:29
dabluemanvery well00:29
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robrikonia: ok thanks for the info00:29
whileimhereSlart there are about well 3 lines00:29
dabluemando ubuntu developers get paid to work on ubuntu00:30
ikoniadablueman: some do00:30
Slartwhileimhere: then the firewall is just letting everything through.. disabled if you want00:30
dabluemanreally00:30
ikoniadablueman: yes00:30
dabluemanhow come they get paid, are they special or something?00:30
ikoniadablueman: companies sponsor them, but this is offtopic00:30
dabluemanofftopic, its about ubuntu00:31
dabluemanubuntu support00:31
dablueman:)00:31
Slartwhileimhere: are you behind some kind of router? perhaps you need to setup some kind of forwarding rule..00:31
dabluemanI have the feeling that I'm bugging you, so I'll stop talking to you for a while.00:31
ikoniadablueman: this is a support channel, not a chat channel00:32
dabluemanvery well00:32
whileimhereSlart: I set up the port forwarding just like normal with GTK-GNUTELLA but amule says I am firewalled. I double checked the prefs as well00:32
andreHello every body00:32
ikoniawhileimhere: it is probably your router00:32
pinghow do you get your windows to have different effects when they vanish00:32
Paddy_EIREis there an mplayer key combo for disabling subtitles00:33
scguy318whileimhere: aMule probably uses a different port which you have to forward, or am I misreading your issue?00:33
andreDo you konw a little bit about alsa and external sound card ?00:33
whileimhereWhen I log into the router (aka my DSL modem) I check the firewall settings and they say that the firewall is off and allowing all traffic.00:33
Slartwhileimhere: hmm.. perhaps you forgot some ports? forwarded the wrong ones? didn't apply your changes? what ports are we talking about btw? under 1024?00:33
ikoniawhileimhere: you probably need portforwarding00:34
Extravertcan someone plz hlep me.  At random times my sound driver becomes unable to open and unknown00:34
scguy318whileimhere: but the forwarding rules still need to be established, else how can your router map outgoing connections to internal endpoints?00:34
whileimhereScguy318 no I want to use amule which I set up for port 500000:34
scguy318whileimhere: *incoming00:34
scguy318whileimhere: you probably need to add a forward entry for that port if you haven't already00:34
Slartping: you can change this in the compiz settings thingy.. System, preferences, appearance or Advanced Desktop Effects settings00:34
* Pelo spots freshmeat00:35
tupsonSlart: thanks that worked!00:35
pingok thanks slart my buddy just helped me with it i thought that was where it was i just didn't know what to do00:35
ubun00bi deleted an image by accident... how can i recover this?00:35
ikoniaubun00b: nope its gone unless it's in your trash bin00:35
Slarttupson: great.. you're welcome.. now stay around and tell the same thing to the next person that asks that question ;)00:36
Peloubun00b, is itstill in the trash can ?00:36
tupsonhehe, i am documenting it now :)00:36
ubun00bikonia: it seems it was to big to go in the trash00:36
ikoniaubun00b: then it's gone00:36
ubun00bto=too00:36
ubun00baarg00:36
ikoniaubun00b: that must have been a very big image00:36
Slartping: you're welcome.. always good with live help sitting next to you =)00:36
ikoniaover 3gb to be too big for the bin00:36
ubun00bikonia: about 4GB00:36
heartsbloodDoes anybody know if Gutsy can be loaded on the Asus EEE yet?  There were problems with the acpi drivers not being GNU compliant and warrenty problems about removing the version of 'Asus linux'.00:36
Peloubun00b, I wasn't aware that the trash in linux had a size limit, it's not lke the recycling bin in windows ,00:36
heartsbloodwhen it was first released anyway00:37
J-_how do I theme synaptic?00:37
ikoniaPelo: 3.$something gig00:37
soundray_heartsblood: there is a UK company that sells it with Gutsy preinstalled00:37
Peloheartsblood, there was an article about it on diggs a few days ago , I think they did it00:37
ikoniaJ-_: its gtk themes00:37
Peloikonia,  that sucks00:37
Dr_willisJ-_,  its ran as root, so you need to run the theme tools as root... that will set the theme for synatpic00:37
ubun00bikonia: i tried to delete the rar files with the command  'rm *.r**'00:37
heartsbloodsoundray_, you wouldn't happen to know the name of the company do you?00:37
ikoniaubun00b: you told me it was an image, not a rar file00:37
ubun00bikonia: somehow the image file was deleted in the process00:37
J-_ikonia: I have a murrine theme, installed it. I'm using it currently, but synaptic isn't themed proper.00:37
soundray_heartsblood: I can look it up00:38
Dr_willisubun00b,  thats a lot of *'s :)00:38
ikoniaubun00b: its gone now00:38
ubun00bikonia: well, i had extracted the iso file from the multiple rar files00:38
ikoniaJ-_: it runs of the same gtk engine as gnome00:38
Peloubun00b,  cd to ~/.Trash , see if it is in there , the command is ls00:38
Odd-rationaleI just installed alltray. But i can't figure out how to make it work.00:38
* Dr_willis wonders if ** is different from * in a filetype glob.00:38
ikoniaubun00b: it's gone if its not in the bin00:38
heatmzzrwhat are the better distros, other than ubuntu?00:38
soundray_heartsblood: http://efficientpc.co.uk/laptops/00:38
ikoniaheatmzzr: thats personal opinion, and quite argumentative to ask in #ubuntu00:38
Dr_willisheatmzzr,  it depends on your needs. Ive seen very few that are better.00:38
ubun00bPelo: i have, it seems it's gone... arg00:38
jribDr_willis: in zsh, **/ will be recursive00:39
Odd-rationaleheatmzzr: I like Puppy Linux00:39
Peloheatmzzr, gentoo seems popular, opensuse is also well liked,  and there is always debian00:39
BSG75how do I turn on highspeed usb for usb2.0 pls?? I am getting about 10MB/sec transfer with my usb hard drive00:39
Dr_willisPuppyLinux is darn handy.00:39
coccoon55anyone especially bored and know their way around usb wireless connecitons?00:39
heartsbloodPelo: found the article you were talking about, ty.00:39
Peloubun00b, you've been in denail, no you are ready for anger00:39
heartsbloodsoundray_, looking at it now00:39
Dr_willisPelo,  that would of been funnier with out the typos. :)00:39
PeloBSG75, it should be turned on by default00:40
whileimhereHmm I have port 5000 forwarded on TCP and UDP00:40
Extraverthow do I check whats using my sound card?00:40
PeloDr_willis, most of what I write would be better without typos ;(00:40
SlartBSG75: that isn't enough? sounds reasonable for a hard drive or something00:40
soundray_BSG75: USB HD transfer rates are limited to 30MB/sec, so you're not that far from the optimum00:40
ubun00bPelo: denial you mean?  i sure am kind of pissed now, yes :-)00:40
ikoniaubun00b: please watch your language00:40
BSG75Pelo: it is doing a real poor job .. hdparm -t -T shows 28MB/sec .. however it is nowhere close to that in RL copy/paste00:40
soundray_BSG75: it's a hardware limitation00:41
Peloubun00b, give it a few minutes and you'll be ready for acceptance00:41
thyraxany site with screenshots of ubuntu running compiz?00:41
ubun00bikonia: it was said with a smile...00:41
ikoniaubun00b: so ? that doesn't make it any less offensive language00:41
SlartExtravert: I'm not sure about this.. but perhaps lsof will show you something.. don't know if soundcards are files in linux..but perhaps00:41
ExtravertSlart: thanks00:41
PeloBSG75, I can't help you get any better,  my own usb stuff seems a bit slow on copying to,  copying from usb is much quicker00:41
ubun00bikonia: well, everything should be viewed in it's context00:42
Peloikonia,  give the kid a break,  he just lost 4 gig of data00:42
ubun00bi think anyway00:42
BSG75how can it be hardware limit when the same drive on the same machine on winXP gets 27MB/sec?? :(00:42
BSG75Pelo: I will try an discrete usb card .. turn off usb onboard00:42
ikoniaubun00b: I'm not aruging, please just watch your language00:42
BSG75X fingers and pray00:42
ubun00bikonia: oki00:42
J-_what's the program called that themes gtk? I want to gksu the command so th window pops up as root and theme everything, see if that helps.00:42
BSG75thanks guys00:42
ikoniaJ-_: that won't help.00:42
ikoniaJ-_: gnome as a desktop applies the theme00:43
soundray_BSG75: 30MB is a hardware limit00:43
kappakappuccinoo/00:43
PeloBSG75, best of luck  let me know if you figure things out,  also check in the forum for other stuff ppl have treid,  www.ubuntuforums.lorg00:43
BSG75thanks Pelo.. thanks Soundray00:43
J-_ikonia: then how can I make synaptic and other root windows use a theme?00:43
kappakappuccino.lorg00:43
kappakappuccinois that new?00:43
ikoniaJ-_: I'm surprised they are not00:43
Slartkappakappuccino: probably just a typo.. .org00:44
kappakappuccinoyeah ;[00:44
J-_ikonia: it's happened before, I forget what I did to get them themed.00:44
junkeRhello, Firefox 2.0.0.11 hangs up and is really choppy when viewing a Javascript Fade Image slideshow. Is this normal..? Any fix for this? (no one was helping me in the Official Firefox support channel)00:44
J-_t'was a long time ago. but yeah, I'll google I suppose00:44
dem_rte00:44
dem_hey00:44
SlartjunkeR: do you have an url?00:44
Pelosoundray_, 30 mb/s means I should be filling up my 2 gig flash in 68 secs ? is is 30mB or 30mb /s ?00:45
ikoniaPelo: gigabit not gigabyte00:45
ikoniamegabit not megabyte sorry00:45
Peloikonia, thanks00:45
dem_thanks00:45
Peloso 8 x more time00:45
Extravertfound it! firefox breaks my sound00:45
dem_#debian00:46
J-_ikonia: ah hah! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60350 thanks anyway!00:46
Peloso 8 min more or less to fill up 2 gig,  I'M not even close to that , takes me over 30 min00:46
ikoniaJ-_: well done00:46
SlartExtravert: lsof worked?00:46
soundray_Pelo (ikonia): 30 megabytes per second is what I meant. Your arithmetic isn't quite right.00:46
ExtravertSlart: well lsof | grep "alsa"00:46
ExtravertSlart: but my sound is still broken =(00:47
SlartExtravert: sweeet.. I'll remember that for later... so firefox eats your sound.. flash?00:47
ExtravertSlart: probably00:47
Pelosoundray_,  30 mB ? ok my arithmetic is   2 gig x 1024 meg / 30 meg/s  = 68 sec00:47
SlartExtravert: any special site? url?00:48
* Pelo is gonna start a flame war with soundray_ over this, I hope he is ready 00:48
junkeRhttp://www.couloir.org/  This one is Ajax but performs just like the javascript ones00:48
harking_anyone have experience with the EVMS bug?00:48
ikoniaharking_: which bug is that00:48
evo7guys .. I downloaded the file with format tar.gz ... how to install it?00:49
SlartjunkeR: well.. it isn't smooth.. but it's still usable..00:49
ExtravertSlart: well I have two problems : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/150129    and    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/13683700:49
junkeRhttp://www.couloir.org/js_slideshow  Here is another and performs poorly.  These all performed well on a Windows machine00:49
harking_ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/11561600:49
Peloevo7,   go back to the site whre you got it , see if you can't get a deb file instead,  otherwise we'll tell you how to compilie manualy00:49
junkeRI know they're usable but is this something I'll just have to live with?00:49
harking_ikonia, just wondering what i should do, because i can't remove EVMS without my raid breaking00:49
harking_:(00:49
SlartjunkeR: the last one was better.. don't know why though..00:50
limacl00:50
limack00:50
limacj00:50
limach00:50
soundray_Pelo: I take it all back. You are right. If you do get 30MB written to the disk in a second (which is possible on USB2.0 with recent disks), then you will indeed fill up your 2GB in 68 seconds00:50
Pelolimac, please stop that00:50
SlartjunkeR: hard to tell if it's lagging when you don't have anything to compare with00:50
j0hn__i'm trying to install cdemu. i think i got it, except the final 'modprobe' step... can somebody please help?00:50
limacPelo: srry00:50
* Pelo pats soundray_ on the head 00:51
RandomUsrhello00:51
ikoniaharking_: bug is still open00:51
junkeROpera, Epiphany, Firefox all suffer from it.  Flash-based galleries don't suffer.  Well I tried a ton of various code examples.  Once I would get to a medium sized image it would choke up.  It handles small images perfectly htough00:51
RandomUsranyone here using apache web server in gutsy?00:51
IndyGunFreakikonia: lol, is the ubuntu bug page your homepage?..lol00:51
ikoniaharking_: there is a fix release for the ubuntu update-manager00:51
* soundray_ grabs Pelos arm and twists it on his back00:51
ikoniaIndyGunFreak: its a bookmark00:51
ikoniaIndyGunFreak: I use it a lot00:51
Odd-rationaleHow do I start an app in maximized mode?00:51
SlartExtravert: haven't run into either of those bugs so far.. perhaps there will be a fix soon..00:51
IndyGunFreakikonia: i can tell, i don't think i've ever saw a bug mentioned, that you didn't know about, and i'm serious about that.00:51
Peloevo7, how are you doing , finding a .deb files or do you think we will have to teach you how to compile ?00:52
ikoniaha ha ha00:52
shindahey guys was wondering if anyone around was familiar with setting up apache virtual sites, I keep getting 403 errors on my config, I've checked my permissions and all and set them to be 755, so I'm not sure why I keep getting the 40300:52
junkeRhttp://creative-wood.com/tempsite/index.php  here is a temporary site I'm working on that has a flash and javascript one.  It severely lags on the scripting one00:52
ExtravertSlart: I bet wine could have caused it00:52
* Pelo 's typing seems to improve with just the one arm 00:52
* rmaj declares ubuntu officially useless (for people with internet)00:52
SlartExtravert: wine does strange things to my computer.. I could totally believe wine eating the sound..00:52
ikoniarmaj: ok, thats great. Thanks for using00:52
ExtravertSlart: bullseye00:52
* IndyGunFreak doesn't want to know what Pelo is doing with the other arm.00:52
harking_ikonia, i tried removing evms, but the raid broke00:52
luluI just installed ubuntu gutsy but X failed to start with an ATI Radeon X700, I just solved the problem and it is not well documented. who should I report the bug to?00:52
Pelormaj,  we are all on the internet here ans we tend to disagre00:52
harking_i thought the patch for update-manager was just to allow the removal of evms cleanly00:53
ExtravertSlart: wine takes over the sound00:53
ikoniaharking_: yes, it will as the volume manager controlls the raid gorup00:53
rmajPelo: inet stoped working, and noone can fix this00:53
ikoniagroup00:53
SlartjunkeR: that last one works nicely.. smooth and nice..00:53
ikoniarmaj: slating the product won't help you get support00:53
Pelormaj, what kind of connection ?00:53
evo7Pelo, it is better to teach me how to compile the tar.gz file.00:53
rmajmy network doest work (routing table is always empty, even after route add default dev eth0) ... simple DHCP network, worked always... anybody can help?00:53
ikoniaevo7: no it's not00:53
junkeRwell the top one is flash but the bottom one is javascript.  The javascript performs poorly on my PC00:53
rmajikonia: asking for solution didn't lead to any solution as well so far00:53
IndyGunFreakevo7: not really... its best to stick w/ whats in the repos, only compile if absolutely necessary,00:53
Peloevo7,  ok join me in #pelo , so we can have some quiet time00:53
Bawbatosis there a gui for building an ipsec turnnel00:54
Odd-rationaleHas the flashplugin-nonfree package in the repos benn fixed?00:54
ikoniarmaj: your current attitude won't get you help either, detail your problem and ask politly00:54
Odd-rationale*been00:54
ikoniaOdd-rationale: no not yet00:54
ikoniaOdd-rationale: hardy back port is being progressed00:54
SlartjunkeR: javascript.... is javascript affected by your jre?00:54
* Odd-rationale sigh00:54
drakodeHow is the redesign of the web site??? http://www.linux.melkor.cl/00:54
ikoniaOdd-rationale: the hardy package has the correct checksums00:54
IndyGunFreakevo7: type this w/o quotes.. "/join #pelo"00:54
krammerwhat do i use to build a server for ubuntu?00:55
junkeRI don't have a JRE installed that I am aware of.00:55
ikoniadrakode: this is an ubuntu support channel00:55
evo7ikonia -> Why? FYI, I downloaded themes for gDesklets but it in tar.gz format00:55
ikoniakrammer: the ubutnu server cd00:55
drakodeToo soon will be in English and other languages00:55
harking_ikonia, so i guess i need to know if there is a way to keep evms installed and have udev not freak out00:55
evo7IndyGunFreak, yes yes. TQ00:55
ikoniaharking_: thats the bit thats not fixed at the moment00:55
harking_ahh,00:55
IndyGunFreakevo7: i think pelo was talking to you00:55
Odd-rationaleHow soon do you think it will take for it to get working again?00:55
ikoniaevo7: it looks like a fix has been ported for suse, but not released00:55
junkeRI guess I have java 1.5.0  I didn't know Ubuntu shipped with a runtime evironment00:56
SlartjunkeR: I'm not sure about this.. but you could try installing suns java runtime.. perhaps it will improve things..00:56
ikoniaOdd-rationale: very quickly, I'm surprised its not done yet, however I understand why00:56
drakodeit is a web of support, contains manuals and faq's00:56
ikoniadrakode: this is ubuntu operating system support channel only00:56
junkeRI'll give that a try.. it's not the biggest issue, but thanks for your help00:56
Odd-rationaleikonia: OK Thanks! I'll wait for tomorrow...00:56
ikoniaOdd-rationale: I'm following the bug myseld00:56
ikoniamyself00:56
Odd-rationaleWill hardy use Gnash you think?00:57
SlartjunkeR: you're welcome to the little help I had to give.. don't know a lot about java =/00:57
ikoniaOdd-rationale: depends on it's progress, there is an adobe package so I guess it will be the same options as gutsy00:57
drakode ikonia ok, np00:57
slimjimflimhow do you find out when a package was first installed?00:57
rainmakers999does anyone know of a web server that will support multicasting?00:57
* differentreality Every step that I take is another mistake to YOUUUUUUUUUUUU00:57
thyraxWhat is the best way to get Terminal Transparent Embeded on the Desktop???00:58
rmajso ubuntu fails to use internet, and this channel fails to help :(00:58
kappakappuccinocrawwwling in my skiiiiin, these oooranges will not peeel00:58
kappakappuccinodifferentreality, ?00:58
ikoniarmaj: I'm on the interent00:58
rmajikonia: fails on this box00:58
ikoniarmaj: drop the attitude and you'll get help as I said00:58
slimjimflimrainmaker999 apache00:58
ikoniarmaj: but you persist with the complaining attitude00:58
rmajikonia: well ok;  so, want technical data?00:58
thyraxWhat is the best way to get Terminal Transparent Embeded on the Desktop? anyone have this done in gnome?00:59
ikoniarmaj: your asking the wrong person, I'm helping people who have manners at the moment00:59
rmajikonia:  DHCP inet;  works on debian box;  worked on THIS ubuntu but suddenly stoped (after another reboot)00:59
JarG0nnautilus-cd-burner is stuck in a 'calculating' state after dropping some folders for burning.  The process status is 'sleeping'.  Any idea why this is happening?00:59
harking_ikonia: i tried reading the evms bug, but it was quite long and little info00:59
rmajikonia: kind Sir or Madda, will thou help me?00:59
differentrealitykappakappuccino, yessss??????00:59
kappakappuccinoyou started it00:59
slimjimflimrmaj, you should have made a backup01:00
ikoniaharking_: yes, I understand that, there is an issue as you rightly pointed out between evms and udev controlling device nodes, there has been a fix pulled from opensuse from what I've read but that looks like it's been in testing01:00
ikoniaslimjimflim: a backup of what ?01:00
slimjimflimthe hard drive01:00
super-6-1_deskhello does anyone know why i cant install anything with 7.10 installed?01:00
ikoniaslimjimflim: why ?01:00
ikoniaslimjimflim: what would that do ?01:00
rmajslimjimflim: what?01:00
ikoniasuper-6-1_desk: can you explain the problem01:00
slimjimflimit'd undo whatever he just did01:00
ikoniarmaj: I'll be with you in a minute01:01
ikoniaslimjimflim: how do you know he did anything, dhcp could have died a tthe server ?01:01
rmajDHCP server is on router of course, and I did nothing to this box01:01
harking_ikonia: thanks for the info, i'll subscribe to the bug.01:01
ikoniaharking_: understood01:01
myusrnmhow do i check mount points?01:01
super-6-1_deskikonia: when ever i go to add/remove it always asks to reload and it never stops asking01:01
slimjimflimrmaj, how are you connected it dhcp is down01:01
ikoniamyusrnm: mount01:01
ikoniaslimjimflim: he's not, thats the problem01:02
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, do: sudo apt-get update    in a terminal and pastebin the output01:02
ikoniasuper-6-1_desk: it keeps asking you to reload ?01:02
rainmakers999does anyone know howto access windows shares that were created using the gnome desktop01:02
super-6-1_deskikonia: yes01:02
rmajslimjimflim: dhcp works fine.  ubuntu box even gets the IP from DHCP, but it doesnt set up default route01:02
slimjimflimrmaj, does the router have a public ip?01:02
super-6-1_desklkonia: i think this the bug01:02
ikoniasuper-6-1_desk: follow MasterShreks's advice01:02
tomboy64hi guys01:02
super-6-1_deskikonia: ok01:02
ikoniarmaj: so dhcp doesn't appear to be offering a default route ?01:03
tomboy64what's the standard-package-manager for ubuntu?01:03
MasterShrekapt01:03
slimjimflimhow do you find out when a package was first installed?01:03
ikoniatomboy64: dpkg with apt / synaptic front ends01:03
tomboy64MasterShrek: is that gui?01:03
rmajikonia:  and DHCP works as Im getting IP address, only my ubuntu box doesnt have any routing set up for itself (route command) therefore it is probably softeware problem in ubuntu box01:03
tomboy64ahhh, synaptic!01:03
MasterShreksynaptic is gui tomboy6401:03
ikoniarmaj: no, your route should be offered via the dhcp server01:03
MasterShrekadept for kde01:03
rmajikonia: it is offering, other boxes are using it01:03
tomboy64great, thx :-D01:03
kappakappuccinoall these names @_@01:04
super-6-1_desk!paste01:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:04
ikoniarmaj: ok so you get an ip address and the correct subnet mask, yes/no01:04
rmajikonia: all other boxes connected to it (debian) Just Work.  It looks like if "route" command on this ubuntu stoped working01:04
rmajyes I do01:04
ikoniarmaj: what ?? don't make random guesses01:04
ikoniarmaj: ok, do you get dns servers ?01:04
jamey-ukI am trying to get the Live CD of 7.10 working on my Mac Mini. It's plugged into a 17" TFT TV but it's a bit funny with the resolution detection. I've tried setting the xorg.conf to 1024x768 but I can't seem to get anything to work. It justs displays a blue screen on screen 7... Any ideas?01:04
Tuche_noob question, i am downloading torrents, but i would like at the same time be on a low power comsumption profile, if i hibernate my ubuntu, will my torrents continue seeding ?01:04
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: here  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47635/01:05
ikoniaTuche_: no01:05
Tuche_hum01:05
Odd-rationaleHow would I add an aptoncd cd to the sources lists from a CLI? Do I need aptoncd installed in order to do this?01:05
Dr_willisTuche_,  i very much doubt that.01:05
rmajikonia: yes, after "dhclient", the /etc/resolv.conf if (re)generated and contains correct IPs of DNS servers01:05
JarG0nCan anyone help with a DVD burning problem?  nautilus-cd-burner gets stuck in a 'calculating' state after dropping some folders for burning.  The process status is 'sleeping'.  Any idea why this is happening?01:05
rmaj*is01:05
Tuche_what would then be the best option ?01:05
ikoniarmaj: excellent, what ip address do you get ?01:05
Tuche_shut down monitor only ?01:05
ikoniarmaj: for your machien, I should say01:05
rmajJarG0n: random guess: I would try to use k3b01:05
PeloJarG0n, try gnomebaker instead01:05
ikoniaTuche_: press the power button the on the monitor01:05
Dr_willisTuche_,  there really is no option.. seeding is accessing the hard drive and so forth..01:05
rmajikonia: correct IP address, 192.168.44.x where x is fro example 132  the same way it works for other boxes01:06
Tuche_Thanks Mates.01:06
MasterShrekpatience super-6-1_desk my net connection is being really slow... =P01:06
JarG0nrmaj/Pelo> Thanks.  Is Nautilus that bad?01:06
no0ticJarG0n, accented characters in filenames?01:06
ikoniarmaj: ok, so what is your router address01:06
slimjimflimTuche_ all network connections are off when you hibernate01:06
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: its ok i got 2 hours any ways01:06
rmajJarG0n: I dont think so, but if it doesnt work then perhaps k3b will work for burning01:06
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: plus i got m laptop =P01:06
Tuche_understood :(01:06
rmajikonia: router is 192.168.44.101:06
PeloJarG0n, not bad but I never managed it , I found gnomebaker much easier01:06
askandWhat is the command used for songswitching in the keyshortcuts settings?01:06
MasterShrekah come on, stupid broadband, they have to be throttling me01:06
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: and psplinux01:06
ikoniarmaj: so as it stands can you make the ubuntu box ping the router01:06
tehlam3my update is buggered anyone got any suggestions01:06
tehlam3http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47636/01:06
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, psplinux?01:06
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: what your ISP?01:07
rmajikonia: suprsingly, no,01:07
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: a linux for the psp01:07
K_DallasGood evening folks! Is there a PDF editor (I mean something like adobe acrobat not the reader) for Linux ? Thanks01:07
ikoniarmaj: ok, so that's where it is going to get interesting01:07
rmajikonia: ping 192.168.44.1  says that  connect: Network is unreachable01:07
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, do: gksu gedit /etc/apt/source.list       and comment out the cdrom line01:07
ikoniarmaj: may I offer a suggestion, you won't like ?01:07
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: something i worked on01:07
ikoniarmaj: or two even ?01:07
rmajikonia: reinstalling system, not really01:07
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, my isp is charter, and i want linux on my psp01:07
super-6-1_deskcomment out cd ok01:07
ikoniarmaj: not what I was going to say01:07
MasterShrek=P01:07
no0tictehlam3, sudo dpkg --configure -a01:07
rmajikonia: its lame and I dont get diagnoz^House.m.d^H bug report01:07
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: is youra a hackable psp?01:07
rmajikonia: ok then01:07
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, of course01:08
bulmerMasterShrek-> http://www.eff.org/wp/detecting-packet-injection an article about how isp injects spoofs in your link01:08
Odd-rationaleHow do I add a CD to the sources.list from a command line system?01:08
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: lol ok01:08
ikoniarmaj: first things first 1.) assign a static ip address on the network and try to ping the router, lets make sure it can actually get there 2.) plug/unplug the cable with 15 second intervals and see if the syslog reports link/negotiation established01:08
rmajOdd-rationale: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list   perhaps01:08
no0ticOdd-rationale, apt-add cdrom01:08
MasterShrekthanks bulmer01:08
ikoniarmaj: it is possible your cable is dead and your using cached settings01:08
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: you may now who i am im Dark_alex01:08
ikoniarmaj: or something along those lines01:08
rmajikonia: plug unplug shows  reports about eth0 link up and down01:09
MasterShrekno way01:09
no0ticOdd-rationale, sorry, apt-cdrom add :P01:09
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: yea01:09
ikoniarmaj: do you follow wheree I am going01:09
rmajikonia: it is actually getting IP from router01:09
narrowsoulsorry to jump in and be annoying but i have a problem; when i start up my computer, the display flickers on and off until when i get to the splash screen it just goes black. all operations continue within, but i can only see what's going on if i turn off the monitor and turn it back on, and only for an instant then. suggestions?01:09
rmajikonia: yes, it is not a hardware problem 100%01:09
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: what CFW you have?01:09
ikoniarmaj: ok, so assign a static address/route and lets see if you can ping it01:09
Odd-rationaleno0tic: Do I type that exactly?01:09
ikoniarmaj: (I assume icmp is enabled on the rotuer)01:09
no0ticOdd-rationale, sudo apt-cdrom add should work01:09
MasterShrekm33 3.7201:09
rmajikonia: one important symptop though: route command shows ZERO routes01:09
tehlam3no0tic: i have tried that already that gives me another error01:09
JarG0nPelo> Gnomebaker appears to be working great!  Thanks!01:09
no0tictehlam3, paste it01:09
tehlam3no0tic: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47637/01:09
rmajikonia: this looks incrorrect, I guess this is the proble01:10
ikoniarmaj: thats the symptom, not nessasary the cause01:10
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: its ok i find my 3.40 OE-A is the most stable almost never crashes01:10
PeloJarG0n, I take no credt , I didn't make it01:10
* rmaj tries static ip01:10
Odd-rationaleno0tic: OK I'll try it. Thanks!01:10
Wifi-PhreakCan anyone tell me what driver/lib I need to burn mp3 cds?01:10
no0tictehlam3, that's beyond my knowings, sorry01:10
ikoniarmaj: set the address high to make sure it doesn't conflict with a dhcp address01:10
MasterShreki was running that for awhile super-6-1_desk01:10
JarG0nPelo> I know.  You just gave me a working solution that clears off one of my drives.  Thank you for the idea.01:10
askandwhat is a good place to find wallpapers01:10
askand?01:10
super-6-1_deskgo back to it01:11
Pelo;)01:11
Odd-rationaleaskand: gnome-look.org01:11
DG19075or art.gnome.org01:11
volumenicols 101:11
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: hay dude the source list is eympty01:12
rmajwtf O________________o01:12
ikoniasuper-6-1_desk: I think we have a winner01:12
rmajdude wtf?01:12
Wifi-PhreakCan anyone help me I'm having trouble burning cds01:12
ikoniarmaj: please don't use language like "wtf"01:12
IndyGunFreakaskand: they aren't linux related, but i really like this site for high quality wallpapers,   http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/index.php?sort=date01:12
Pelormaj,  language please01:12
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek:  lol i think your right01:12
IndyGunFreak!wtf01:12
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.01:12
rmajwhat the Ferry?01:12
rmajanyway01:12
ikoniarmaj: do you want to expand on your problem futher01:12
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek:  let me find the reps01:12
PeloWifi-Phreak,  what kind of cd , data, iso or audio ?01:12
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek:  or do you have a list of them?01:13
jeremyb_rmaj: where can i catch the ferry?01:13
rmajikonia: omFineG, it works once I configured interaces file;  strange is, why it worked before?!01:13
MasterShrek!source-o-matic | super-6-1_desk01:13
ubotusuper-6-1_desk: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:13
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, i dont believe you are d_a01:13
rmajjeremyb: in a borthe^H bottle01:13
askandIndyGunFreak:  nice01:13
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: sorry im typeing in a sentance the psp well not01:13
MasterShrekhes not from virginia01:13
Wifi-PhreakPelo: yes01:13
ikoniarmaj: so you've assined a static address and it's working yes/no01:13
super-6-1_deskallow more then onr line01:13
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IndyGunFreakaskand: ya, there's a BUNCH there, but  you can go through there and find some really good ones01:13
rmajikonia: I assigned dhcp, but placed it in /etc/network/interfaces01:13
PeloWifi-Phreak,  either or quesitons don'T require a yes/no answer01:13
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:13
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek:  its called tor01:13
PeloWifi-Phreak,  what kind of cd are you trying to burn ?01:13
pirxis this channel baby-rated?01:13
ikoniarmaj: was that not in /etc/network/interfaces ?01:13
Wifi-Phreak.mp301:14
rmajikonia: no it wasn;t01:14
ikoniarmaj: what was ?01:14
rmajikonia: I thought doing by hand  "dhclient eth0"  was as good as putting "eth0 dhcp..." into ifaces file?   in ifaces file there was nothing about eth0, only lo01:14
ikoniarmaj: no no no no no01:14
rmajO_o01:14
ikoniarmaj: it works different01:14
rmajthen why no warning or something? :[01:14
PeloWifi-Phreak,  are you copying the mp3 as files or are you encoding them as music for regular cheap ass  cd player ?01:14
ikoniarmaj: ok, so your sorted, it was user error, not "ubuntu is rubbish" after all, nor was "route" broke01:15
ikoniarmaj: it assume people read the docs01:15
rmajlike... dhcp: I cant add route, since eth0 not present in interfaces01:15
reaxionhi01:15
rmajikonia: oh yes.     BUAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA01:15
rmajikonia: seriously :)01:15
Wifi-PhreakCopying as mp301:15
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: i really dont care of you beleave i am but hay im stil working on PSPLinux and it wont be out for a bit pubicly01:15
rmajikonia: people should, yes, but they dont01:15
Wifi-PhreakI want the disc to play in an in car cd player01:15
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, and you are basing it off ubuntu?01:16
rmajikonia: I thought ubuntu aims to stop with the GNU/Nerdy approach "I spend 24/24 with my computer, so you should too - reading manuals"01:16
ikoniarmaj: it does01:16
PeloWifi-Phreak,  ok first you will need to install mp3 support,  if it isnt, done already and then you will use Serpentine from the sound/image menu in applications01:16
reaxionI wonder if anyone can help?  My Ubuntu Server has a process running every 20 minutes which places the text "-- MARK --" in my /var/log/messages01:16
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: well one version is and one is on YDL01:16
ikoniareaxion: that is a log check01:17
rmajikonia: in my case, a hint from "route" or "dhclient" that it can not assign route because device is not present, would be very helpfull01:17
reaxionikonia, what process might be checking?01:17
rmajreaxion: it's normal01:17
Peloreaxion, check in crontab01:17
reaxionI did01:17
ikoniarml__: you can't account for every possible senario01:17
reaxionnothing every 20 mins01:17
ikoniareaxion: log watch I think01:17
reaxioncould it be log rotator?01:17
* rmaj slaps self for not finding this obvious sollution before01:17
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: fyi dont go down to any other fw  if so you well see un normal utilitys on your psp01:18
reaxionJust filling my log up with the MARK text01:18
wersis there any multisync user here? may you post a copy of your .multisync/1/localsettings file? :)01:18
* Pelo slaps rmaj just for the hell of it 01:18
rmajreaxion: I thoink its normal.. why not?01:18
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, what do you mean?01:18
* rmaj slaps Pelo with vista cd01:18
reaxionI'd just prefer my log had meaningful messages, rather than that every 20 mins01:18
ikoniareaxion: then do something to generate traffic01:19
* Pelo shows rmaj his @ and tells him not to annoy him any further, he was told earlier to review all the basic stuff 01:19
rmajreaxion: if computer dies, you know it was alive at this time; also it compreses to nothing basicly by logrotate01:19
Wifi-PhreakPelo: How d I install mp3 support?01:19
Pelo!mp3 | Wifi-Phreak01:19
ubotuWifi-Phreak: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:19
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: well as i make new CFW i see that the newer updates hold new flashes. and the downgraders dont target these and dont see them so when you do go to a new CFW be sure you upgrade01:19
rmajPelo: I seen this lack of eth0 before, but I thought interfaces entry was needed only for automatic configuration01:19
reaxionrmaj: I understand it would, just find it a bit annoying.01:19
ikoniasuper-6-1_desk: can you take the psp discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please.01:20
rmajikonia: thanks01:20
ikoniarmaj: welcome, next time, try a smidgen more manners a tad less critical and we'll get there faster, I promise01:20
super-6-1_deskikonia: sorry my bad i didnt mean to get off-topic01:20
ikoniasuper-6-1_desk: no biggy01:20
reaxionOkay folks. Thanks.01:20
wersyooohooooo... any multisync user out here? :)01:20
rmajI wonder can Ubuntu add own patches to add error messages and make them more user friendly?01:20
ikoniawers: just ask in clear english, drop the noise01:21
unikonok thats weird i cant login to my photobucket page  i AM reg'd and i know i pw anyone else have issues with photobucket not accesible using firefox in linux01:21
Pelowers,  be patient, and ask more specificaly periodicaly,  yooohooo won'T get you much01:21
wersooops. sorry01:21
MasterShrekinteresting super-6-1_desk, ill keep it in mind, but i dont really have any reason to downgrade my cfw, so i think ill be aight. btw did u get your sources thing working?01:21
ikoniarmaj: that would mean patching every gnu util for every possible error01:21
ikoniarmaj: better if you just understand the processes more01:21
ice9_original burner ? whats that I use k3b01:21
rmajikonia: sounds like fun;  and tech message simply makes learning easier01:21
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: im still getting the refreash thing again01:21
ikoniarmaj: too much effort to do and maintin01:21
ikoniamaintain01:22
rmajikonia: what if I would01:22
legoany one know if it is possible to remove all panels in gnome ?01:22
MasterShrekhmm, getting any errors when you do: sudo apt-get update  ?01:22
rmajthen upstream could adapt this even01:22
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: ill look01:22
ikoniarmaj: you're going to maintain every gnu package with hints for every possible error01:22
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: the same things01:22
rmajnot every, but some to start with... and basic tools are rarerlly changed I guess01:22
ikoniarmaj: its not worth the effort, people who want to tinker, should know, others should use the tools (like network manager) provided by ubuntu01:23
Zionad_lego: Yes just right click on them, and remove them!01:23
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, and you saved that file with the cdrom line commented out?01:23
timothywcrane__any good autoresponders that handle IMAP and follow ups for Ubuntu?01:23
rmajikonia: I even straced route to see if it is accessing any config file (it didn't)...01:23
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: there was nothing in there and i put the reps the auto reps gave me01:24
ikoniarmaj: over kill01:24
legoZionad_: but the last one has the "delete this panel" label greyed out01:24
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, they didnt give you a cdrom repo did it?01:24
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: no01:24
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: it was like it was a new file01:24
MasterShrekbut sudo apt-get update is still giving you cdrom errors?01:25
wersis there any multisync user here? I need to see a /home/user/.multisync/1/localsettings file01:25
Zionad_lego: you can always run, killall gnome-panel01:25
Pelotimothywcrane__,  did hyou check in synaptic ? do a search for imap or autoresponder or other related keywords01:25
jv_nvidia fx 5500 does not giving me effects?01:25
jv_256mb01:25
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: yes01:25
Synx_hmTrying to install ubuntu for the first time, i set it up on a software raid and had a seperate /boot swap etc... upon first reboot i get grub error 2101:25
ikoniajv_: have you enabled desktop effects ?01:25
legoZionad_: true.. should have been able to come up with that myself :)01:25
ikoniaSynx_hm: what type of software raid ?01:25
Zionad_lego: its ok, we are always here for help!01:25
MasterShrekthat doesnt make any sense super-6-1_desk, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list01:25
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: ok01:25
telexiconHow come the scripts in if-pre-up.d aren't executed when network interfaces are brought up?01:25
super-6-1_desk!paste01:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:26
ikoniatelexicon: "pre-up"01:26
FlannelSynx_hm: You may need to put boot off the RAID.  Although I dont know for sure.  I know /boot can't be on LVM01:26
Synx_hmikonia, i think kernal, i use the text installer to select the physical drive raid then configured software raid01:26
jv_using think so..using experimental geubuntu..after rebooting gives error..how in the comand line can I verify if beryl is enabled?01:26
timothywcrane__yes, but there is nothing in te repository. Prob have to go 3rd party. Autorespond is really limited and the others avail are simple vacation responders01:26
legohmm.. the gnome-panel thingie restarts when killed... damn it is a sticky thing01:26
Synx_hmFlannel, i configured one drive so that it had 3 partitions one /boot one swap and one for the softraid, so the raid while technically is on both drives, its only on two partitions01:26
telexiconikonia, ?01:26
ikoniaSynx_hm: ok, thats a good start, Synx_hm it looks like grub has not installed to the correct disks. Try manually installing grub to your boot sectors of your primary drives01:26
Zionad_lego: one sec, i can fix that01:26
ikoniatelexicon: they are executed before the interface is brought up01:26
eyemeanhello, is xgl meant to use so much processing power?01:27
Pelotimothywcrane__, you can try an look here www.getdeb.net , no garranties , otherwise it's google01:27
ikoniaeyemean: depends on your card/cpu01:27
telexiconikonia, right01:27
Synx_hmikonia, im back in the text install cd and it wont let me... mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot01:27
telexiconikonia, thats fine.. thats what i meant01:27
telexiconikonia, they arent executed at all01:27
telexiconikonia, thats the problem01:27
timothywcrane__thanks, been googling all day01:27
ikoniatelexicon: really ?01:27
ikoniatelexicon: what type of card01:27
ikoniaSynx_hm: what does it say01:27
eyemeanikonia, i got radeon 9550, 1.7 GHz cpu and 1Gig ram01:27
super-6-1_deskhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47643/ here MasterShrek01:27
IndyGunFreakikonia: lmao... i just want you to know i caught that.01:27
ikoniaeyemean: ahhh ati, I've no idea01:27
telexiconikonia, my network works.. its just I made an iptables-restore script..  but it doesnt restore01:27
Pelotimothywcrane__, doing a search in the forum might also yeild some results, www.ubuntuforums.org01:27
jv_ok, compiz is installed...01:28
BSG75I got to run at 9MB/s transfer almost on avg01:28
ikoniaIndyGunFreak: caught what ;)01:28
Synx_hmikonia,  invalid argument, is there a full shell under the install cd?01:28
IndyGunFreaklol01:28
PeloBSG75, waht did you do ?01:28
IndyGunFreakikonia: that was pretty subtle though..... but i doubt he got it.01:28
ikoniatelexicon: thats not done in the pre-up scripts01:28
jv_do we have a compiz manager like in beryl?01:28
BSG75Pelo: I had a setting in my BIOS that said .. disable PCI 2.1 latency compliant01:28
telexiconikonia, where is it done?01:28
eyemeanikonia, yeah tell me about if i knew ati would of been such a problem i would of got Nvidea, hahah01:28
legoZionad_: i solved it, thank you.. (this was the needed command 'gnome-session-remove gnome-panel')01:28
smultronwhat does it mean when a monitor is "vista compatible"? i thought monitors were operating system independent like hard drives?01:28
ikoniatelexicon: that should be done in an init script01:28
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, that first line is supposed to be commented right? also you may have to pastebin the output from sudo apt-get update, this is really puzzling me01:29
ikoniaeyemean: there are a few guys in here that know ati well01:29
Zionad_lego: Go to Prefrences -> Sessions then click on current session and remove gnome panel, then go to session options and click remeber currently running applications01:29
ikoniaI'm not one01:29
BSG75and I moved to slot 3 pci on my motherboard01:29
Zionad_lego:" that will save it everytime01:29
BSG75I am not sure which one did it .. but I am not touching it .. just incase :)01:29
legothank you very much01:29
PeloBSG75, I donT, think I have that one,  but I'll check it out later , I think I have full speed and hi speed,  kind of ambiguous01:29
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: its the same as the last01:29
telexiconikonia, how come ubuntu/debian doesnt come with an iptables script by default? It seems like a common thing to have01:29
eyemeancalling all ati user knowledge buffs, hahaha01:29
timothywcrane__nothing on get deb or forums, but thank you01:29
lbakalinskyIf I were to get an Emerex PC, could i buy a Nvida graphics to run compiz and emerald running. I really want to get my brother a computer01:29
* IndyGunFreak fixed his ATI card by removing and buying an Nvidia card01:29
ikoniatelexicon: its a custom thing to have, there is an init template you can hack to use your own01:29
* nickrud thinks IndyGunFreak is a cheat01:29
BSG75LOL full speed and high speed .. I like those choices :)01:29
PeloBSG75,  no pci slots for me , they are onboard01:29
IndyGunFreak:)01:30
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, it cant be, theres no reference to your cdrom in that file, theres no reason it shold be erroring on it01:30
BSG75I hope one of those options in the bios will do it for u01:30
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: i think its a bug01:30
eyemeani have a radeon 9550, but seems xgl is in high usage, can any1 help pls?01:30
benzs_swhat's the success rate doing a distribution upgrade from feisty to gutsy?01:30
rmajIndyGunFreak: isnt ATI linux friendly now01:30
BSG75I am getting 9-7 MB/s constant now01:30
IndyGunFreaknickrud: dual screens was just to freakin hard w/ ATI...01:30
QjimboHi, can someone take a look at this: http://pastebin.com/d78bb2d0601:30
IndyGunFreakrmaj: maybe now, i don't know, this was like a year or more agbo.01:30
BSG75much easier when u need to move 1TB data :)01:30
IndyGunFreakago.01:30
ikoniaeyemean: shouldn't you use frxgl01:30
Zionad_ATI is a hellhole with linux.. heh01:30
Zionad_Thats why i went Nvidia01:30
ikoniarmaj: it won't be for a long time01:30
nickrudIndyGunFreak, heh, thanks for the warning. I'll put off buying that third one01:30
lbakalinskyanyone?01:31
PeloBSG75, I'll hav eto look a bit more into it , I think I tried to change it while back and it didn't do much difference so I put it back the way it was, don'T remember what it is at now01:31
QjimboZionad_: I'm struggling as it is with this VIA onboard stuff01:31
IndyGunFreaknickrud: lol, so you got dual screens working w/ ATI?.. i tried for a couple months and gave up.01:31
Zionad_Qjimbo: Oh man i couldnt imagine, via isnt nice either hahah01:31
eyemeanikonia, i am as far as i know, but i think its listed as xgl in system monitor01:31
IanLiuHow do I setup TeXMacs for Maxima?01:31
IndyGunFreaknickrud: that was back in Dapper though, so almost 2yrs ago..., and ATI's driver i believe has came a long way since then01:31
nickrudIndyGunFreak, no, that was sarcastic wishful thinking. Right now I'm recompiling my kernel, see if I can get suspend with fglrx.01:31
eyemeanikonia, sorry i meant as far as i know thats wat im using01:31
IndyGunFreaklol01:31
jv_I have nv34 geforce fx 5500 256mb and need to troubleshoot compiz from the terminal...anobody?01:31
Pelolbakalinsky, depends if there is a agp or pci slot available on the mobo01:31
jv_tia01:31
ikoniaeyemean: I understand01:32
BSG75Pelo: good luck .. I am glad my nightmare is almost over .. my highness is sitting there on her laptop for me to finish so she can mount nfs01:32
ikoniajv_: what is your problem01:32
eyemeanikonia, lol, kool01:32
flyinprogramerhttp://xkcd.com/178/01:32
nickrudIndyGunFreak, I swore off kernel stuff several years ago, you can guess just how desperate I am01:32
flyinprogramerhilarious01:32
flyinprogramerhttp://xkcd.com/178/01:32
flyinprogramerhttp://xkcd.com/178/01:32
Synx_hmikonia, actually ive got a shell in the root /dev/md0 now what do i need to do to reconfigure grub on /dev/sda101:32
flyinprogramerhttp://xkcd.com/178/01:32
flyinprogramerhttp://xkcd.com/178/01:32
flyinprogramerhttp://xkcd.com/178/01:32
IndyGunFreaknickrud: lol,01:32
PeloBSG75, :-)01:32
ikoniaflyinprogramer: what are you doing ?01:32
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: : puzzeld?01:32
Peloannoying everyone01:32
Zionad_someone should kick ban him01:32
ikonia!grub >Synx_hm01:32
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: so am i01:32
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, it doesnt make any sense01:33
jv_ok, I try to start compiz with the only command that came to my littl ehead :01:33
ikoniaSynx_hm: read the link from ubotu, you want to install grub onto the physical drives, not the meta device01:33
jv_compiz01:33
jv_Xgl not present01:33
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, can you give me that output from sudo apt-get update  again, maybe i missed something01:33
IndyGunFreakcant they ban him by IP?.. he does that stuff a lot.01:33
ikoniajake_: you don't need to type anything to start it01:33
ikoniajv_: just enabl "desktop effects" in gnome01:33
IndyGunFreakmost of the time its that tinyurl porn link though01:33
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: yea hold on01:33
Zionad_IndyGunFreak, Of course they can01:33
jv_can i copy and paste the compiz output here about 10 lines01:33
Pelo!theme | evo701:33
ubotuevo7: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy01:33
ikoniajv_: no, and don't bother, just enable desktop effects in gnome01:34
jv_says 'desktop effects could not be enabled"01:34
nickrudjv_, no, and what kind of chip, ati?01:34
ikoniajv_: are you using the "nvidia" driver in xorg ?01:34
]RandoM[i'm about to upgrade from edgy eft to ubuntu studio.. should i do a backup of stuff in my home dir or will it save my settings / files / etc01:34
jv_I am thinking that is because i don't have xgl? dunno...01:34
IndyGunFreak!paste | jv_01:34
ubotujv_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:34
super-6-1_deskhere http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47644/01:34
ikonia]RandoM[: do a clean install01:34
IanLiu!maxima01:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about maxima - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:35
IanLiu!emacs01:35
ikoniajv_: are you using the nvidia driver (restricted driver manager)01:35
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code01:35
Synx_hmikonia, thanks ill give that a try01:35
nickrudjv_, that's a generic response to not having nvidia or another driver that has aiglx in it01:35
Junkie`Is there a special channel for intel mac support?01:35
ikoniaJunkie`: no01:35
MasterShreksuper-6-1_desk, try going to system > admin > software sources01:35
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: ok01:35
]RandoM[ikonia: ok thank01:36
Junkie`Okay01:36
IndyGunFreakJunkie`: intel mac?.. maybe #mac  i don't know01:36
Junkie`Well, it's support with an intel mac with ubuntu01:36
IndyGunFreakJunkie`: oh, you need help w/ Ubuntu, on an intel mac.01:36
IndyGunFreaknevermind... i was confused...01:36
Junkie`Ya :P01:36
ikoniaJunkie`: ask your question01:36
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: thats the problem i think i can fix it from here01:36
IndyGunFreakwhats the problem?01:36
MasterShrekgood luck super-6-1_desk01:37
Junkie`Retardedly, I completely took mac os x off of my macbook and installed ubuntu01:37
Junkie`which worked fine01:37
IndyGunFreakJunkie`: lol01:37
ikoniaJunkie`: nothing wrong with that01:37
IndyGunFreaki bet01:37
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: Im not leaveing just yet im chacking it before i go01:37
Junkie`until i need windows and installed it on a 25 gig partition01:37
Junkie`now i can't get into a livecd, or into linux01:37
IndyGunFreakand now grub is hosed.01:37
Junkie`which i need to do01:37
Junkie`exactly.01:37
ikoniaJunkie`: there is a keypress to boot from cd01:37
IndyGunFreakwhy can't you get into a live CD?01:37
ikoniaJunkie`: it's apple + b or something like that01:37
Junkie`because the macbook bios settings aren't configurable01:38
IndyGunFreakoh ok....01:38
Junkie`so when i go to press c nothing happends01:38
ikoniaJunkie`: you need a key sequence to force cd boot01:38
superpiewho are all these punks? o.001:38
Zionad_Junkie: the key press is JUST the letter C01:38
Junkie`It was 'c' in mac os x to boot from teh cd01:38
jv_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47646/plain/01:38
nyce_hello01:38
jv_this was the compiz command output01:38
ikoniajv_: why are you showing us that,01:39
Junkie`Zionad_: I know, but that doesn't do anything01:39
ikoniajv_: I've told you not to use the compiz command01:39
ikoniajv_: I've told you what you need to do01:39
Junkie`It just goes to the windows bootloader01:39
Pelog'night folks01:39
jv_ah..sorry, didn't saw that01:39
IndyGunFreakl8r Pelo01:39
nyce_i am new to ubuntu can someone help me out01:39
ikoniajv_: you did see it as you responded01:39
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: it seems to be working know. and thanks o btw go to psp-hacks in the next month or 2 i think PSPLinux should be out01:39
ikonianyce_: sure if you ask a question01:39
Zionad_nyce_ whats the problem?01:39
nyce_i have a lot of problem01:39
nyce_problems*01:39
Zionad_Well, Start with one!01:39
MasterShrekcool super-6-1_desk, i got that on my iGoogle, so ill know :)01:39
nyce_thanks01:40
super-6-1_deskMasterShrek: lol ok01:40
nyce_first problem i have is getting wine working01:40
IndyGunFreakJunkie`: no way to get into the bios?01:40
nyce_i dont understand what they want me to do01:40
jv_I have the restrcitive driver enabled01:40
Junkie`So, the first thought I had was to use vmware player to get into a live cd, dump the boot partition thing, using dd, then adding that line to teh boot.ini in windows, but that didn't work.01:40
* nickrud shuts up, he came in late (again)01:40
Junkie`IndyGunFreak: nope01:40
ikonianyce_: wine support in in #winehq01:40
super-6-1_desknyce_: whats it asking?01:40
super-6-1_desknvm01:40
Zionad_Ok, You have selected wine in the add remove?, and whats the problem?01:40
IndyGunFreakhmm01:40
IndyGunFreakJunkie`: there has to be online instructions to boot a intel mac from CD drivee01:41
nyce_i had it installed at first but i couldnt get a program to work so i removed it and tried to install it again but its not working like before01:41
hudyxif I am dual-booting vista/Ubuntu, is there any way I can save my desktops' states in Ubuntu 7.10 when I shut down and go into Vista?01:41
nyce_i dont remember what i did01:41
jv_lsmod shows nvidia loaded01:41
Junkie`IndyGunFreak: Yes, you are supposed to press 'c', but that isn't working01:41
nickrudhudyx, hibernate01:41
Synx_hmikonia, all of a sudden the live cd will not boot, hrm01:41
ikonianyce_: wine support in in #winehq01:41
robertj_anyone know how to get sound working in java?01:41
super-6-1_desk!ask | nyce_01:41
ubotunyce_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:41
ikoniaSynx_hm: thats interesting01:41
jv_ikonia, i was only able to see when you asked if I had the restrictive driver enabled...:(01:41
jv_answer is yes01:42
nyce_i checked winehq01:42
nyce_nevermind01:42
superpiehow do i find a bottleneck for an application that takes a long time to load?01:42
nyce_i understand01:42
hudyxnickrud: how do I boot Vista if I only hibernate Ubuntu? Don't I have to shut down/restart to get to the GRUB menu to boot Vista?01:42
nyce_sorry01:42
super-6-1_desknyce_: whats the others01:42
IndyGunFreakJunkie`: and changing the boot ini tab didn't work?01:42
jv_hudyx: yes you do :)01:43
nickrudhudyx, if you hibernate, it does shut down. You can then reboot into windows, or linux later01:43
super-6-1_deskall right thanks everyone for the help01:43
sainzeowhat are the commands that would be the same as going to System - Preferences - Appearance - Disable Compiz or Enable Compiz?01:43
ikoniasainzeo: use the gui01:43
nickrudhudyx, hibernate is not suspend01:43
IndyGunFreakJunkie`: look at #16   http://www.ethicalhack.org/howto/triple_boot_howto.html01:43
Zionad_But hibernate saves the current condition, it doesnt run post, or allow you to see the grub bootloaser01:43
sainzeoikonia: i would like to create a script to enable/disable compiz more quickly - do you know these commands?01:44
Zionad_it goes directly to the saved condition01:44
ikoniasainzeo: use the gui, it is not practicle to script01:44
sainzeoikonia: sorry, but I would like to script this, are you saying then you don' tknow?01:44
jv_ikonia, plz tell me again what i need to do to ckeck compiz01:44
ikoniasainzeo: I'm saying it is possible but not practicle01:44
hudyxZionad_: so there is no way to do what I want to do? save the Ubuntu state while I go into Vista?01:45
jv_beryl had a beryl manager command that would bring up the interface to control beryl01:45
sainzeoikonia: okay fine, it's not practical, what are these commands anyways?01:45
Zionad_Hudyx, I do not think that is possible.01:45
ikoniasainzeo: its not "commands" you'll have to detect states and things like that01:45
ikoniasainzeo: its just just 2 commands01:45
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zlkcan someone tell me why i cant compile MPlayer with my ubuntu distro?  probably has something to do with libc?  when i ./configure i get "Error: Cannot find header either inttypes.h or bitypes.h.  There is no chance for compilation to succeed."01:45
sainzeoikonia: isn't there like metacity --replace and compiz --replace?01:45
majkballhmm... On one of my harddrives it says root is owner,... so I can't create any folders or do naything on it... how do I add a user to the restrictions?01:45
ikoniasainzeo: that is just part of it01:46
buddhaboypiedoggie: are you still there?01:46
ikoniazlk: why are you compiling mplayer01:46
zlkbecause synaptic wont install it01:46
ikoniazlk: the error message is quite clear that it can't find the headers01:46
sainzeoikonia: okay, what else would i need to do in order to successfully script it?01:46
ikoniasainzeo: I've just said, its not straight forward01:46
sunogbagazlk: just sudo apt-get install mplayer01:46
ikoniasainzeo: its not practicle01:46
buddhaboypiedoggie: I installed 7.1 with eqmu, and still got the same issue: ubuntu stops at /etc/rc.local01:46
zlksunogbaga: E: Broken packages01:46
sainzeoikonia: you may not think its practical, and maybe it isn't, but i would like this knowledge, therefore, do you actually know the commands to run or not?01:46
zlkit says it relies on liartsc0, libfaac0, liblame0, etc.01:47
zlkand says "but is not installable"01:47
ikoniasainzeo: why are you not listening, its just just "commands"01:47
buddhaboyanyone knows why a fresh install will stop booting after /etc/rc.local [OK] ??01:47
zlknext to those packages01:47
ikoniazlk: you'll need to enable additional repo's01:47
zlkhow do i go about doing that?01:47
sainzeoikonia: i am listening, but there must be a way to script figuring out states and what not, like you had previously said01:47
ikoniasainzeo: www.compiz-fusion.org has all the docs01:47
ikoniasainzeo: had a read through them01:47
sainzeoikonia: ok thank you01:48
ikoniazlk: system --> preferences --> software sources01:48
sainzeozlk: its actually system --> administration --> software sources01:48
zlkim using ubuntu 7.04 feisty.  i dont seem to have that option in preferences01:48
ikoniasainzeo: thank you01:48
ikoniazlk: did you see that01:48
zlkah ta01:48
sainzeoikonia: you're welcome01:48
jv_what about gutsy? also uses compiz-fusion?01:49
ikoniajv_: gutsy comes with compiz-fusion already installed01:49
jv_I can't figure why compiz won't start....01:49
buddhaboymaybe I can get a lower version of ubuntu, where can I get 7.04?01:49
nickrudZionad_, just did a hibernate, boot into windows, and then back into my hibernated desktop. Worked as expected01:49
ikoniabuddhaboy: is there a reason you want 7.04 over 7.10 ?01:49
sec_where to find pidgin for 6.06?01:49
ikoniasec_: it doesn't exist01:50
ikoniasec_: 6.06 uses gaim01:50
buddhaboyikonia: yes, i install a fresh boot, and the screen gets stuck on: /etc/rc.local [ok] wont' go further, unless i hit enter01:50
jv_what is the module name for compiz? compiz-fusion?01:50
ivxsec_ i'm sure you could build from sources but it isn't in repos01:50
sec_ikonia: yes, i had gaim on 6.06; want to try pidgin01:50
ikoniabuddhaboy: press enter and check your rc.local file01:50
sainzeosec_: you may be able to compile it yourself successfully though by downloading the source from www.pidgin.im01:50
sunogbagajv_: just system-preferences-desktop-effects01:50
ikoniasec_: pidgin is not available01:50
_ope_i need help with vmware.  i only get a display if im running the vm in debug mode01:51
buddhaboyikonia: I've been on the forum, I don't have any isues with my rc.local file01:51
ikoniasainzeo: I don't think it will run due to tls dependencies on 6.0.601:51
Zionad_nickrud: i have never seen a hibernate do that.. ever....01:51
ikoniabuddhaboy: what is in it ?01:51
Aztec007hello everyone01:51
Zionad_I mean, Its not supposed to01:51
sec_why ubuntu dislike pidgin?01:51
Zionad_its supposrd to save your session01:51
ikoniasec_: they don't01:51
Aztec007what do you guys recommend reiserfs or reiser4?01:51
Zionad_and boot into it!, thats why it uses hd space01:51
ikoniasec_: 6.0.6 was release long before pidgin existed01:51
deniz_quick question, how do i mount a .img file on my desktop?01:51
ikoniaAztec007: resiser FS is a debatable topic for long term support01:52
sainzeosec_: i would try compiling it from source first - it may not work, but probably won't hurt to try01:52
marupaDoes anyone know if there's a way to set up VNC to allow me to 'share' my current desktop on a custom port, and like tightvnc for windows, have one password be full-control, and one be view-only?01:52
ikoniaAztec007: resierfs because of that issue01:52
_ope_can anyone help?01:52
sec_ikonia: LTS means: not add new software?01:52
buddhaboyikonia: it only has "exit 0"01:52
nickrudZionad_, it does write to hd, thats the point. The image is there to go back to at any time.01:52
ikoniasec_: not official, but yes01:52
_ope_i also get this error when i try to full screen in vmware01:52
_ope_Unable to find an appropriate host video mode.01:52
_ope_Adding the guest mode to the 'display' subsection of the 'screen' section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config and restarting X is likely to help.01:52
_ope_Failed to switch to full screen SVGA mode.01:52
buddhaboyikonia: its a fresh install01:52
ikoniabuddhaboy: ok, so look at the last scripts that excute before that01:52
eidohas anyone installed original enemy territory on ubuntu?01:52
ikoniabuddhaboy:01:52
deniz_how do i mount a .img file??01:52
Aztec007ikonia: yeah, thats what I heard I just figured that it may be working now01:52
jv_sunogbaga: that's the thing..i have gnome with elive..I go to appearnce and then I turned desktop effects01:52
Zionad_nickrud: i see.... thanks for informing me of that! =]01:52
marupadeniz_, gmountiso01:52
jv_told me to reboot which I did01:52
nickrudZionad_, the only thing that might be different is I do use a bios password, but don't think that should matter01:53
deniz_marupa, its not an iso01:53
sec_i don't want to install gcc, *-dev on my only machine desktop01:53
marupadeniz_, convert it?01:53
jv_now it says "desktops effects cannot be enabled"01:53
buddhaboyikonia: ok fine. and I do a noshow, and remove quiet from boot to see message start ups, right?01:53
eyemeananyone find that firefox can sometimes be a hog on ubuntu 7.10?01:53
ikoniaAztec007: nope, not while the owner is being prosicuted for murder01:53
eltuxI'm having some compiz problems again01:53
deniz_how or with wat?01:53
buddhaboyikonia: where would I see in the logs? what log file?01:53
nickrudZionad_, eh, I can be obtuse and assuming about knowledge, don't mind me01:53
ikoniabuddhaboy: thats an excellent idea01:53
meticuloyeah01:53
deniz_marupa, how or with wat?01:53
jv_I have glx01:53
ikoniabuddhaboy: remove the splash image from the boot options in /boot/grub/menu.lst01:53
Synx_hmikonia, hrm i did something lol, now no grub at all, my mobo is trying to boot over the network now doh!01:53
IanLiuHow do I set Maxima package for TeXMacs?01:53
Zionad_nickrud: hahah its fine01:53
buddhaboyikonia: I already did the nosplash, and remove the quiet01:53
sec_so, anyone has that deb for pidgin?01:53
marupadeniz_, That I cannot remember, unfortunately.  I recall that I found the howto on google though.01:53
jv_267.88801:53
buddhaboyikonia: everything was "ok" before that01:53
Aztec007ikonia: who's the owner?01:53
deniz_any specific app?01:53
deniz_marupa, any specific app?01:54
ikoniasec_: I've told you "it doesn't exist"01:54
buddhaboyikonia: its like everything just stops: so maybe there is a log file?01:54
ikoniabuddhaboy: no boot log01:54
marupadeniz_, Nope.  Just look for 'img to iso convert ubuntu' or somesuch.01:54
buddhaboyikonia: hmmm :$01:54
deniz_k, ill do so later01:54
evo7How to setup a start up? I mean some program will run automatically once I log in.01:54
deniz_thx01:54
sunogbagajv_: probably haven't installed restricted drivers01:54
nickrudevo7, system->prefs->session01:54
sec_ikonia: i see, it's not in official.01:54
eltuxcompiz won't allow me to select extra or anything else it gives me the error: The composite extension is not available01:54
buddhaboyikonia: nope nothing is in it01:54
evo7nickrud: Thank you.01:54
sainzeosec_: did you get my PM?01:55
buddhaboyikonia: /var/log/boot01:55
jv_sunogbaga: yes, they are enabled01:55
ikoniabuddhaboy: you won't get anything out of that01:55
]RandoM[what do you people use to write data dvds?01:55
sec_sainzeo: let me check01:55
jv_nvidia and atheros01:55
nickrudZionad_, I forgot I was running a kernel compile, if it's bad I'm blaming you ;)01:55
jv_for wifi01:55
buddhaboyikonia: see there's this same error in the forums, they complain about going to the /etc/even.d and looking in there.. but everything is fine01:55
Zionad_nickrud: hahah, I will take any and all responsibility! hahaha01:55
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ikoniabuddhaboy: have you installed ANYTHING scince the default install01:56
buddhaboyikonia: and this is a fresh install: both on vmware, and on qemu01:56
buddhaboyikonia: nope, nothing01:56
ikoniaoooh virtualisation01:56
nickrud]RandoM[, I'be been using gnomebaker, I've also used k3b01:56
ikoniabuddhaboy: hardware detection on some virtualisation can cause a hang01:56
talcitehey guys, I'm having trouble connecting to security.ubuntu.com01:56
talciteany ideas why this might be?01:56
sec_sainzeo: got my reply pm?01:56
buddhaboyikonia: yep. i thought so, so i said ok, maybe vmware has an issue, but then i tried qemu01:56
buddhaboyikonia: same thing..01:56
glenmy computer just locked up and crashed so I had to restart, how can I check system logs to see what caused it?01:56
ikoniabuddhaboy: still virtualisation01:56
marupatalcite, could be proxy, dns, or relay issue.01:57
]RandoM[nickrud: thanks i'll try that.. the dvd writer built into nautilus hasn't been working well for me.01:57
IndyGunFreak!pm | sec_01:57
IanLiuAnyone knows how to configure a package for TeXMacs?01:57
ubotusec_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.01:57
buddhaboyikonia: i'll try tomorrow with another machine I guess01:57
ikoniabuddhaboy: you'll have to play with your vm settings01:57
Junkie`IndyGunFreak: i did as it said, but holding down c did nothing and it just went to the windows boot loader01:57
talcitemarupa: well the other system on the same network has no problem connecting to it though 0.lo01:57
IndyGunFreakJunkie`: i really don't know... sorry.01:57
marupatalcite, then probably dns or proxy.01:57
nickrud]RandoM[, the only thing I don't like about it is not telling me how much space I've reserved01:57
buddhaboyikonia: yea that will take forever, i'm just gonna do it on a real system I guess01:57
jv_damn...can't undertsand this stuff...01:57
evo7what is the best flash plugin for firefox?01:57
ikoniabuddhaboy: ok01:57
talcitemarupa: any idea how I'd be able to check which one it is?01:57
sunogbagajv_: now I don't have ideas., others might be able to help01:57
buddhaboyikonia: thank for the time though!01:57
marupatalcite from the one that works, ping it, and try connecting to the IP.01:57
ikoniaevo7: there is only one, the adobe one, but the package is currently broke01:57
talcitemarupa: does ubuntu server use dhcpcd?01:58
ikoniatalcite: its up to you if it does01:58
jv_that's fine..tx01:58
marupatalcite, most probably.01:58
ikoniatalcite: depends how you set it up01:58
luluglen, System -> Administration -> System logs01:58
talciteikonia: I see... hmm I can't remember what I selected for options =P01:58
ikoniatalcite: then look01:58
talcitemarupa: let me give it a shot, brb01:58
evo7ikonia: so how to download? how about gnash? I tried but it not performs the best. :(01:58
glenlulu: hmm on xubuntu guess I'll try gnome-system-log instead01:58
ikoniaevo7: gnash is still in early development01:59
Alp-i installed ubuntu on one 10gb partition. now i created a second partition which has to contain my /home directory. how can i setup that without reinstalling ubuntu?01:59
Junkie`IndyGunFreak: I added it and when i select it i get an error saying it didn't have access to the harddisk01:59
talcitemarupa: hmm it might be DNS... there's no response to pings01:59
ikoniaAlp-: copy the data from /home to the partition then mount your new partition on /home01:59
evo7ikonia: so now I cant download any flash plugin for firefox?01:59
luluglen, you can always check logs looking at files in /var/log01:59
Junkie`To the boot.ini, that is01:59
IndyGunFreakJunkie`: i don't have the first idea.. sorry01:59
ikoniaevo7: not at this exact second01:59
Junkie`no worries01:59
Junkie`thanks anyway01:59
Synx_hmikonia, ive tried a number of things  doing the manual grub install, using /sbin/grub-install /dev/sda1 and none work, i have no mbr i think because it keeps going directly to network booting02:00
CyberMad!font02:00
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer02:00
ikoniaSynx_hm: enter the grub shell and do it from that method02:00
talciteikonia: dhcpcd isn't installed... =/ what else would I be using?02:00
evo7ikonia: ok thank you.02:00
Synx_hmikonia, ill do that one more time because i think the dvd drive might be hd002:00
jv_dhclient?02:00
ikoniatalcite: thats a server, you'd be using dhclient02:00
Alp-ikonia: it's that easy? just adding a line to fstab?02:00
nickrudAlp-, add a line like /dev/hda8  /home ext3 defaults 0 1 to your /etc/fstab02:00
ikoniaAlp-: it certainly is02:00
ikonianickrud: gutsy uses uuid02:01
Alp-nickrud, ikonia: thanks alot02:01
talciteikonia: ahh crap I remember what I did now... I'm using a static IP...02:01
nickrudikonia, yes, but recognizes the other as well. I'm not affected by libata, keep forgetting that02:01
ikonianickrud: it has to be /dev/sdX has hdX is retired02:01
evo7i download the flash plugin in website but it came with tar.gz format. how to install it?02:02
talciteikonia: is there a way to configure resolv.conf without manually copying over the data then?02:02
ikoniaevo7: don't02:02
ikoniaevo7: wait for the ubuntu package to be fixed02:02
ikoniatalcite: edit the file02:02
d0lph1nK1nghow do i roll back my nvidia driver?02:02
nickrudikonia, works here, but I'm gonna stop mentioning it02:02
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ikoniadomas: roll back to what02:02
ikonianickrud: really ?02:02
d0lph1nK1nga previous version02:02
Alp-ikonia: but how can i delete my old home folder after mounting the new one?02:02
ikonianickrud: do you have /dev/hdX on your gutsy install02:02
evo7ikonia: Ok. Thank you. :)02:02
talciteikonia: yeah, I mean is there a way to automatically update resolv.conf?02:02
sunogbagaevo7: are you trying to install flashplayer for firefox?02:02
ikoniaAlp-: copy the data over then delete it02:02
ikoniatalcite: no, thats dhcp02:02
talciteikonia: =/02:02
nickrudikonia, yes (or at least as swap, I have that set on my i386 install)02:03
cariccCan anyone recommend a way to get wicd for wireless connection to work in Gusty?02:03
eyemeanwhen restarting ubuntu, do u have to restart the pc, or can u just ctrl alt del then login again?02:03
ikonianickrud: on gutsy02:03
nickrudikonia, yes02:03
ikoniaeyemean: that restarts the xserver02:03
ikonianickrud: I need to investigate that as you shouldn't get it02:03
nickrudikonia, now you make me wonder if my swap was working on that one :)02:03
ikonianickrud: thats a good question02:03
eyemeanikonia, sorry im new to linux02:04
eyemean!xserver02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:04
ikoniaeyemean: thats fine, no need to apologise02:04
kkathmanI have a printer attached to ubuntu and can print a test page just fine. On my samba network the windows computer sees the ubuntu box, but not the printer attached to it. In Administration- Printing I DO have it set to share and to not restrict any users.  Is there something else I need to do?02:04
ikoniaeyemean: the xserver is your "gui"02:04
eyemeanikonia, oh right, so basically if pc ubuntu getting slow, have to do full reboot?02:05
ikoniaeyemean: it shouldn't get slow02:05
teknoprepever02:05
evo7sunogbaga: yes. I want to install flash plugin for firefox. :)02:05
teknoprepevo7 is pretty easy02:06
Alp-how can i get the uuid of my partition?02:06
eyemeanikonia, it does someties, like now for instance the cpu is working flat out, it didnt used to be like this02:06
ikoniaAlp-: blkid02:06
ikoniaeyemean: are you running froma  livecd or a hard disk insall02:06
ikoniainstall02:06
eyemeanikonia, hd02:06
teknoprepeyemean, what process is taking up that much cpu usage?02:06
sunogbagaevo7: just sudo-apt get install flashplugin-nonfree02:06
ikoniaeyemean: use top to see what is eating your cpu02:06
ikoniasunogbaga: the flash package is currently broke02:06
teknoprepeyemean, if you open up a console and type ' top ' into it02:07
marupaCan anyone point me to a howto to get tightvnc to work (or some method to share a current desktop session, not create a new one)02:07
ikoniaeyemean: do not do that command yet02:07
kkathmanSigh, I figured that question might be above the help level here :(02:07
Synx_hmikonia, nada, ive got the drives setup as follows... /dev/sda1 (boot) /dev/sda2 (swap) /dev/sda3 (software raid) /dev/sdb1 (software raid) /dev/md0 (raid 0 with sda3 and sdb1)02:07
teknoprepeyemean, it will show you what processes are using so much cpu time02:07
ikoniakkathman: as your question02:07
ikoniaSynx_hm: raid 0 !02:07
kkathman?02:07
ikoniaSynx_hm: I thought you said raid 102:07
ikoniakkathman: I didn't see your question02:07
eyemeanikonia, forefox at the moment, it hits 70 at times02:07
evo7sunogbaga: ok I try02:07
kkathmank02:07
ikoniaevo7: don't02:07
ikoniaevo7: the package is currently broke02:08
teknoprepeyemean, what cpu do you have?02:08
sunogbagaow02:08
Alp-ikonia: that doesnt show me the new partition02:08
Synx_hmikonia, i dont think so but i might have02:08
ikoniaSynx_hm: I may have miss-read02:08
eyemeanikonia, athlon xp200+ - 1.7Ghz02:08
ikoniaSynx_hm: is /boot on a raid partition02:08
teknoprepeyemean, that would probably be why02:08
teknoprepeyemean, i mean that cpu is getting older02:08
burnninator can someone recommend some software like jinzora, but will play the music via the web browser ?02:08
burnninatorkinda like pandora02:08
teknoprepeyemean, they don't have alot cache on them either02:08
Synx_hmikonia, its own partition02:08
ikoniaAlp-: man uuidgen02:09
eyemeanteknoprep, but i didnt have this problem last week02:09
sunogbagaikonia: what happens when u do?02:09
ikoniaSynx_hm: ok, this is going to get complex,02:09
teknoprepeyemean, what did you change?02:09
macandcheesehi all02:09
ikoniaSynx_hm: basiclly you'll need to update you initrd to include support for raid002:09
eyemeanteknoprep, nothing, lol02:09
ikoniasunogbaga: it installs the meta package, but not the actual plug02:09
ikoniaplugin02:09
Synx_hmikonia, i used the text based install to do the software raid setup02:09
macandcheeseanyone know how to set up an asus eas1600 silent video card with ubuntu?02:09
teknoprepeyemean, thats impossible.. things don't change unless you tell them too02:09
teknoprepeyemean, unless you have a hardware problem02:09
macandcheesei can't get any driver to make it work02:10
teknoprepmacandcheese, modules not drivers02:10
inannaeso te pasa por estar  enamorante a distancia en internet , no aprendes ,02:10
eyemeanteknoprep, it look slike firefox is the problem, its use alot of cpu at times02:10
teknoprepeyemean, try purging it then reinstalling it... see if it does the same thing02:10
teknoprepeyemean, you can try this ' apt-get purge firefox '02:10
ikoniawhy ?02:11
ikoniawhy re-install something for no reason ?02:11
teknoprepwhy what02:11
eyemeanteknoprep, im new to linux, but im sure i havent changed any settings02:11
teknoprepikonia, well if he thinks its the problem why not02:11
ikoniabecause it's pointless02:11
nickrudikonia, I just did a test here, and /dev/hda8  /media/i386-home ext3    defaults        0       2 works as expected02:11
eyemeanteknoprep, is it best to save my favourites first?02:11
Synx_hmikonia, the key problem is anyways that grub is not installing on the mbr at all...02:11
ikonianickrud: I'll look into that, thank you02:11
MasterShrekeyemean, have you installed and extensions that may be causing firefox to do that?02:11
teknoprepeyemean, you should use google browser sync02:11
ikoniaSynx_hm: thats easy to fix, the root file system problem is not02:11
teknoprepeyemean, but yes you would have to fix it02:12
eyemeanmastershrek, i do have extensions installed on firefox, but havent installed any for ages02:12
Synx_hmikonia, ive got two 400gb sata drives, one had 3 partitons on it, one boot one swap and one for the raid, the other drive is one partition all for the raid, i used the text alternate install cd to set it up and it seemed to work just fine, i assume it would have setup with kernel software raid (not fakeraid) support02:12
ikoniaeyemean: you probably just have too much running, too many tabs, busy website with flash etc02:13
teknoprepeyemean, what exactly is the problem tho?02:13
eyemeanteknoprep, what is google browser sync for?02:13
ikoniaSynx_hm: yes, thats right02:13
teknoprepeyemean, it syncs your browser to your gmail account.. that way you never loose your bookmarks / whatever else firefox saves02:13
ikoniaSynx_hm: did you not understand what I said about having raid 0 as your root file system02:13
Synx_hmikonia, any ideas why grub wont install then, ive tried both manual and automatic modes02:13
eyemeanteknoprep, high cpu usage of firefox, i cant watch tv properly on pc now without it screen slowing down from tv02:13
ikoniaSynx_hm: your not using the correct grub options, or your motherboard is not booting off the right disk02:14
teknoprepeyemean, things don't just happen tho man.. you had to have done something02:14
eyemeanteknoprep, that sounds cool , neverknew about that02:14
eidohow do i change folder permission to all02:14
Synx_hmikonia, ya i do, but my understanding of software raid and not fakeraid (bios software raid) was that kernel support was automatic02:14
ikoniaSynx_hm: kernel support IS, initrd is NOT02:14
eyemeanteknoprep, well i havent been brave enough to do anything new or weird incase i messed up ubuntu02:15
Synx_hmikonia, ahh so the install cd will not set that up for you if you select software raid as the partition for /02:15
ikoniaSynx_hm: I don't believe so02:15
Synx_hmikonia, sorry this is all a bit new to me02:15
goldfiregoldfire02:15
Synx_hmpoop02:15
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ikoniaSynx_hm: thats fine, raid 1 = yes, raid 0 I don't know, nor do I think so02:15
teknoprepeyemean, i purposely skrew things up so i learn how to fix it02:15
teknoprepeyemean, took me awhile but i figured out why my laptop's hibernate doesn't work after i do an update with ubuntu02:15
teknoprepeyemean, and it was worth it to do this too02:16
cizarrwhat's the shortcut key for the terminal console?02:16
kkathmanok I figured it out02:16
teknoprepeyemean, simple things you skrew up... will help you in the future.. now i have a better grasp on how acpi is implemented into linux02:16
MasterShrekcizarr, ctrl+alt+f1-f6 ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to your gui02:16
eyemeanteknoprep, i havent been on ubuntu for long so i wont risk it, plus i dont have time to do that at the moment02:16
teknoprepeyemean, you still have a large learning curve.. sure you can enjoy ubunut.. but you should still learn it02:17
teknoprepeyemean, linux has stupid amount of options02:17
cizarrthanks MasterShrek02:17
eyemeanteknoprep, ur right though, its the only way to learn, but when i have more time, i got too much diy to do these days at  home, hahaha02:17
Synx_hmikonia, well the bios is not finding any mbr at all so i at least need to fix grub first and then see what happenes from there02:18
Synx_hmikonia, i did root (hd0,0) which should be /dev/sda1 and setup (hd0)02:18
ikoniaSynx_hm: you know what happens, it was failing last time02:18
ikoniaSynx_hm: it couldn't find the root file system02:18
david_JWhat application could I install that'll change html to text?02:18
Synx_hmikonia, it didn't give me a boot menu at all, just error 2102:18
teknoprepdavid_J, notepad ?02:18
Junkie`ok...02:18
]RandoM[nickrud: gnomebaker worked like a charm for me.02:19
ikoniaSynx_hm: that was before, you said it couldn't find root file system first time02:19
Synx_hmikonia, i figured it was an actual mbr error02:19
MasterShrekSynx_hm, maybe try sd0,002:19
danc3david_J: html *is* text02:19
sunogbagadavid_J: any text editor would do that02:19
ikoniaMasterShrek: please don't talk nonsense02:19
nickrud]RandoM[, good to hear02:19
david_Jdanc3: no it aint...I mean without the html tags02:19
Synx_hmikonia, never got that far02:19
Synx_hmMasterShrek, wilco02:19
MasterShrekikonia, sorry, i didnt think of it as nonsense, im not using grub but i thought i remembered doing that once...02:19
danc3david_J: you could use awk/sed02:19
david_JI know there are tools out there that can do it02:19
eyemeanteknoprep, where in gmail do i go to sync bookmarks pls?02:19
ikoniaMasterShrek: you've never dont that, that option doesn't exist02:19
david_Jforget it bye02:19
ikoniaSynx_hm: that option doesn't exist02:20
Synx_hmi didn't think so hehe02:20
MasterShrekok ikonia, my mistake02:20
teknoprepeyemean, just goto www.google.com and search for google browser sync02:20
ikoniaMasterShrek: no problem02:20
Synx_hmikonia, find /boot/grub/stage1 doesn't work btw02:20
Synx_hmikonia, but i am able to see /boot and all thats on the /dev/sda1 partition02:20
ikoniaSynx_hm: hang on, so your /boot partition is sd1 ? yes/no02:20
Synx_hmikonia, yes02:20
talciteman this is ridiculous02:20
teknopreptalcite, what is?02:21
ikoniaSynx_hm: ok, so your root option is (hd0,0) and your setup option is (hd0) is that what you are using ?02:21
talciteteknoprep: I got the DNS servers working and the NTP servers kicked in02:21
Synx_hmikonia, yup02:21
talciteteknoprep: I'm now locked out of sudo02:21
ezzieyguywufI'm trying to report a bug. when they ask you to add the output of uname -a, sudo lspci -wnn and sudo dmidecode, how do i get those in the form of a file instead of just in the terminal02:21
ikoniaSynx_hm: and in your /boot/grub/device.map that is the correct mapping hd0 is sda ?02:21
talciteteknoprep: the time stamps are too far in the future, I can't kill sudo, I can't validate it either02:21
Synx_hmikonia, let me check02:21
danc3Synx_hm: s/sda/hda02:21
teknopreptalcite, you have to update all of your files02:21
ezzieyguywufwhen i type sudo dmidecode, for example, the output appears to be too large for the terminal and i don't even get all of it, just the end02:21
jribezzieyguywuf: COMMAND > /path/to/file02:21
talciteteknoprep: I tried logging out but it didn't work. I can't shutdown or reboot because I need to be root02:22
teknopreptalcite, i forget what it is brb02:22
talciteteknoprep: what do you mean?02:22
ezzieyguywufjrib: thank you02:22
talciteteknoprep: sure02:22
jribezzieyguywuf: that will overwrite anything in /path/to/file if it already exists by the way02:22
ChrisUFOxlcfg -g or xlcfg -gtk02:22
myusrnmupon opening azures, it closes02:22
ChrisUFOmyusrnm: I have the same problem actually!02:23
Synx_hmikonia, ohh ... (hd0) is /dev/hdb (my dvd drive) doh and hd1 is the /dev/sda ill try that02:23
ezzieyguywufjrib: do i specify a file type, ie .txt?02:23
ikoniaSynx_hm: there you go02:23
ikoniaso you want hd1,002:23
Nighthawk420hey howcome bittorent, ktorrent, and bittornado all do a horrible job of dowloading my torrents, like uber s low, and i used to be able to dl them real fast on windows... is it something with my ports/02:23
ikoniaand hd1 as a setup02:23
Synx_hmikonia, however grub seems to be confused, because when i do root (hd0, <tab> it lists all the partitions on sda102:23
eyemeanafter pruging firefox should i restart then install again?02:23
sunogbagaNighthawk420: might be02:23
myusrnmi need help with my azureus problem, upon opening azureus it closes. Has anybody heard of this problem and know what the cause / solution might be02:24
ikoniaSynx_hm: because sda1 is correct02:24
myusrnm?02:24
sunogbagaNighthawk420: under nat maybe...02:24
ikoniaSynx_hm: but grub wants hd1,0 and hd102:24
Nighthawk420should it be under nat or not on nat?02:24
Synx_hmikonia, ya but im saying grub thinks sda1 is hd0 when it is infact hd1, no?02:24
eyemean<teknoprep, after pruging firefox should i restart then install again?02:24
sunogbagaNighthawk420: if youre under nat, should probably try port forwarding02:24
ikoniaSynx_hm: because the device map is overriding02:24
evo7I want to add gDesklet in start up but I do not know the application name to put. How to check it?02:25
Nighthawk420sunogbaga, cant i just as easily disable nat settings02:25
Synx_hmikonia, so what do i need to edit?02:25
evo7I tried gDesklets but it didnt work.02:25
ikoniaSynx_hm: I've told you, re-install grub to root hd1,0 and setup hd102:25
sunogbagaevo7: system preferences sessions02:25
Synx_hmikonia, because it wont install to hd1... setup (hd1) Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition02:25
myusrnmNvm, apparently deleting .azureus seemed to work02:26
ikoniaSynx_hm: exactly what commands are you using ?02:26
evo7sunogbaga: yes I know it. But we need to put the name of application inside. I do not know the name of it02:26
Synx_hmikonia, root (hd1,0)... setup (hd1)02:26
sunogbagaput any name, just put the right command02:26
ikoniaSynx_hm: in the grub shell ?02:26
Synx_hmikonia, yes02:26
evo7sunogbaga: I do not the the command for gDesklets. I tried put gDesklet but dint work.02:27
talcitewow I discovered a bug in ubuntu... first time ever =D02:27
ikoniaSynx_hm: something is very wrong here02:27
Synx_hmikonia, also tried 'sudo /usr/sbin/grub-install /dev/sda102:27
Synx_hmikonia, i agree hehe02:27
sunogbagahaven't install gdesklet yet, try gdesklets .. no caps02:28
ikoniaSynx_hm: I can only think your raid config has messed up your drive layouts02:28
sunogbagaevo7: try it on the terminal first02:28
evo7sunogbaga: ok. I try.02:28
Synx_hmikonia, heres what fdisk -l has to say... /dev/sda1 bootable (/boot)  /dev/sda2 swap  /dev/sda3 Linux raid autodetect  /dev/sdb1 Linux raid autodetect02:29
evo7sunogbaga: yes. it's working.02:29
evo7sunogbaga: Thank you man.02:29
teknoprepi guess the timestamp is to far into the future02:29
Evilxdoes the live cd have the RT8187 drivers on it?02:29
ikoniaSynx_hm: I'm afraid its bed time for me02:29
ikoniaSynx_hm: but that all looks normal02:29
talciteahh thank goodness for tty...02:30
talciteI'd be boned without it02:30
Synx_hmikonia, cool thanks for your help though :) ill figure this ish out hehe02:30
talciteatleast for an hour anyways02:30
sunogbagaevo7: no problem02:30
ikoniaSynx_hm: you may want to correct your device.map to make things easier02:30
Synx_hmikonia, will do thanks02:30
ikoniaSynx_hm: ahhhh02:30
ikoniaSynx_hm: its just hit me02:30
ikoniaSynx_hm: got it02:30
ikoniasorry, I was being slow02:30
Synx_hmhuh?02:30
ikoniaSynx_hm: your doing this from the livecd yes/no02:30
Synx_hmyes02:31
daks!device.map02:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about device.map - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:31
ikoniaSynx_hm: ok, stop me if I confuse you02:31
teknoprephey talcite02:31
teknopreptalcite, you still there02:31
ikoniaSynx_hm: the livecd has "probed" your disk, so /dev/sda IS hd0 on the livecd, which is why you can't install to hd102:31
teknopreptalcite, do this... ' sudo -k ; sudo -K '02:31
daksikonia: what is device.map?02:31
ikoniaSynx_hm: follow so far02:31
ikoniadaks: I'll get back to you02:31
Synx_hmikonia, ikonia ya02:31
lovedeatmcan anybody help me wit an ipod issue..or am in the wrong place02:32
talciteteknoprep: yup, I'm here02:32
ikoniaSynx_hm: however when you boot from your hard disk the device.map is probed to get the disk layout which says sda = hd1 not hd0, so menu.lst can't be found so grub won't init02:32
talciteteknoprep: believe it or not, it was a bug in ubuntu 0.o02:32
ikoniaSynx_hm: make sense ?02:32
teknopreptalcite, did you fix it?02:32
Synx_hmikonia, ya02:32
talciteteknoprep: I had to log into tty2 and delete the sudo file for tty102:32
_patbamhi, is it normal for apt-get to ask me to put in my gutsy cd when i try to install things?02:32
talciteteknoprep: yup =D02:32
Synx_hmikonia, i figured something like that was happening02:32
ikoniaSynx_hm: fix your device.map on your disk, and re-install grub onto hd0 on the livecd and you'll be fine02:32
talciteteknoprep: thanks =D02:32
ikoniaSynx_hm: sorry, took me a moment for that to click02:33
talcitehey guys, how do you perform a dist-upgrade on ubuntu server?02:33
Synx_hmikonia, ok ill do that, thanks!02:33
ikonia_patbam: remove the cd source line from /etc/sources.list02:33
talciteI'm still running feisty02:33
ikonia_patbam: /etc/apt/sources.list02:33
ikoniaSynx_hm: sorry, I was missing the ovious02:33
ikoniaobvious02:33
ikoniadaks: device.map is a grub file used to map physical disks to grub device identifiers02:33
_patbamikonia: thanks.02:33
lovedeatmhow do you enable repos via konsole02:34
marupaI really need this to work, guys...I'm trying to share my ubuntu desktop with other users, but use a custom port.  Is there any way to do that?02:34
ikonialovedeatm: uncomment them in /etc/apt/sources.list02:34
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teknopreplovedeatm, konsole is kde02:34
Synx_hmikonia, one quick question seems i cannot force write to tha file (w!)02:34
sexcopterhi, can anyone recommend me software to author dvd videos?02:34
teknopreplovedeatm, are you using kubuntu ?02:34
marupasexcopter, kino02:34
ikoniaSynx_hm: mount -o remount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot02:34
Synx_hmthanks02:34
ikoniaSynx_hm: remount read/write02:34
patbamikonia: don't ih ave to do an apt-get update or some such after editing that file?02:34
teknopreplovedeatm, but you want to doit from the console... sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:34
ikoniapatbam: you do02:34
sexcoptermarupa: thanks02:35
ikoniaSynx_hm: bed time now02:35
marupasexcopter, welcome.02:35
Synx_hmikonia, thanks again02:35
ikoniaSynx_hm: hope everything works out02:35
lovedeatmthanks and yeah i am using kubuntu02:35
patbamikonia:  thanks again :)02:36
lovedeatmbut it was a general question and thanks02:36
teknoprepkde sucks02:36
julio3patasteknoprep: long live kde beats gnome :)02:37
SirBob1701are there any fixes to the crash with latest nvidia drivers and video playback (ex sometimes when i open movies they are just green blobs and don't render until i restart computer)02:37
ezzieyguywufhow do you make a tarball of a directory in the terminal window?02:37
grazzwhere can i find the list ( and code ) of the ubuntu patches for the kernel?02:37
teknoprepjulio3patas, you crazy? kde is horible02:37
marupaezzieyguywuf, tar -cf somefile.tar thedirectory/02:37
nickrudezzieyguywuf, tar cf <file>.tar /dir02:37
patbamkde vs gnome fistfight behind the cafeteria!02:37
ezzieyguywufthanks guys02:37
julio3patasteknoprep: must        be the rum&cokes i had tonight02:38
teknoprepjulio3patas, vodka cranberry here02:38
teknoprepjulio3patas, but you are still nuts02:38
teknoprepjulio3patas, kde is more bloated then windows02:38
nickrudthe gnomes will break the trolls knees02:38
julio3patasteknoprep: my   ex'es will agree with you02:38
DG19075GNOME Rules!02:38
SirBob1701julio3patas: sissy gotta go with the straight up irish whiskey :)02:38
teknoprepSirBob1701, nothing wrong with mixed drinks02:39
SirBob1701teknoprep: sure if your a chick haha02:39
teknoprepcairo_dock + gnome = beautiful02:39
julio3patasSirBob1701: had a chance to go thru ireland and picked up some private reserve jameson, boy that is good stuff02:39
teknoprepSirBob1701, now you attack my manhood because i like a mixed drink?02:39
SirBob1701julio3patas: aw i can only imagine02:40
SirBob1701teknoprep: sure why not :)02:40
grazzwhere can i find the list ( and code ) of the ubuntu patches for the kernel?02:40
teknoprepSirBob1701, i must be ghey... i am going to go in the corner and cry.. someone on irc insulted my man-hood02:40
grazz( sorry for the re-paste )02:40
IdleOne!offtopic | SirBob1701 teknoprep02:40
ubotuSirBob1701 teknoprep: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:40
teknoprepIdleOne, does it really matter?02:40
evo7i download cpu meter for gdesklets .. how to install it? .. i tried in /usr/share/gdesklets/display but i din work.02:41
IdleOneteknoprep: yes02:41
SirBob1701teknoprep: np manhood means nothing02:41
teknoprepagreed02:41
heatmzzris there a way in ubuntu to leave the graphics and go to command line, not as shell?02:41
marupaAnyone know how to customize what port ubuntu's remote desktop listens on?02:41
preaction_heatmzzr, Ctrl+Alt+F102:41
nickrudheatmzzr, ctl-alt-f1 ?02:41
heatmzzrthanks folks02:41
SpookyETIs there a Thunderbird to Evolution converter?02:42
nadinehello. i've been using various versions of ubuntu for about two years now, but still can't get samba working consistently for the life of me. it seems to work for about a day every two months, but then its back to not being able to connect (btwn two ubuntu systems; i use samba cuz sometimes there's a winpc on the network). anyone have any pointers?02:42
talcitehmm... does anyone know if systems with non-matching times would affect SSH logins with RSA keys?02:42
teknoprepSpookyET, converter of what02:42
SpookyETaccount02:42
SpookyETI don't feel like redownloading everything via GMAIL's slow IMAP02:43
teknoprepSpookyET, for email or your contacts?02:43
teknoprepSpookyET, its not that slow02:43
SpookyETno contacts. email02:43
IggzI'm finding 7.10 very buggy on my rig - I am aware that there have been issues for some and it appears that I am one of them. However, I do like the OS and want to stay with it. While waiting on hardy I'd like to stay with ubuntu. So, which version would you suggst - 7.4 or 6.10?02:43
evo7i download cpu meter for gdesklets .. how to install it? .. i tried in /usr/share/gdesklets/display but i din work.02:43
teknoprepSpookyET, also imap only caches on your localhost... your going to have to get your emails downloaded again no matter what02:43
IdleOneIggz: try 6.10 if it works well then !upgrade to 7.0402:44
yan_how do i find the size of each installed program?02:44
SpookyETteknoprep: not if you make it sync and download everything.02:44
yan_my /root folder is being used up02:44
SirBob1701anyone know status on new nvidia drivers?02:44
engla_yan_: in synaptic you can see sizes of installed programs02:45
IggzIdelOne: Thank you sounds a good idea. Can you do a download upgrade by the way otr is it a fresh installll everytime?02:45
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teknoprepSirBob1701, why do you want new drivers?02:45
engla_yan_: however, there are no installed programs in /root02:45
yan_I mean in the root partition02:45
SirBob1701teknoprep: the current ones crash on video files sometimes and require a restart to play correctly.02:45
engla_well open synaptic, go to settings and make sure the column for installed size is enabled, then go to installed packages, and sort by installed size02:46
engla_that's the recipe :)02:46
teknoprepSirBob1701, you sure thats nv drivers and not just your divx / decoder ?02:46
SirBob1701teknoprep: reinstalled them several times already to see if it was them02:46
talcitehey guys, where's the NTP server file kept?02:46
teknopreptalcite, what NTP server  file? the conf file ?02:47
yan_engla_, thanks. How do you deframent a disk?02:47
teknopreptalcite, do this ' sudo updatedb '02:47
teknopreptalcite, after that finishs do this ' sudo locate ntp | grep conf02:47
engla_yan_: should normally not be needed; I don't know02:48
talciteteknoprep: thanks02:48
julio3patasi updated to the new hardy systems seems to be running just fine tho02:48
SteveScumis there a way i can view/edit upnp devices on my network,  like my router?02:48
* nickrud boggles at hardy now02:48
IdleOnenickrud: that good or bad?02:49
teknoprepSteveScum, there are programs that use upnp to open ports on routers but the best way to update your router configs is best through the web configuration02:49
nickrudIdleOne, I grew up in linux running debian unstable, but ubuntu betas more than a month or so before release? I like to get things done :)02:49
teknoprepSteveScum, most torrent programs have a upnp plugin tha tworks with upnp enabled routers02:50
SteveScumyeah, its not for my router, and the only way i can access it for the first time is upnp, but i dont know a program to access upnp02:50
SteveScumits another device i mean02:51
teknoprepwhat is it?02:51
teknoprepsounds like a shitty device02:51
ohioguyhi , I'm on dial up , can some one tell me how to deal with ubuntu updates ? ( 88 mb one week , 82 mb the next week )02:51
teknoprepohioguy, don't update02:51
heatmzzrin ubuntu can you login as root?02:52
FluxDheatmzzr: no02:52
teknoprepohioguy, enable your firewall... and don't allow anything to directly access you computer unless you request it.. then ... don';t update02:52
F0oohioguy go to starbucks and download them02:52
MiLKhi guys. i'm trying to install ubuntu onto a partition that I have already created under windows. i have chosen the 'manual' option, and when i select my partition and click forward it says 'no root file system specified'. what am i doing wrong?02:52
MasterShrekMiLK, make the mount point /02:53
MasterShrekMiLK, also youll prolly want a swap partition02:53
nickrudohioguy, I have a couple of one liners I used to use, no error checking but they work, I'll put them on a pastebin02:53
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ohioguyhmmm ,, starrbucks is about 50 miles away ,,, and I don't drink coffee ,,, lol02:53
SteveScumnetwork print router, for some reason i cant access it, and in the manual it says another way to access its setup is through upnp, but i dont know of a way of doing it on ubuntu02:53
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MiLKok thx MasterShrek - how do I add a swap partition?02:53
Elizabethhello, has anyone had a problem with 64-bit OS livecds like ubuntu and leopard kernel panicking02:54
makuseruare there any other audio recording/editing programs that are free, besides audacity?02:54
MiLKdo i do it via 'edit partition'?02:54
MasterShrekMiLK, generally you want to make the swap partition of size equal to the amount of ram you have, although i cannot exactly tell you how to do it (since i dont have the installer right in front of me) it shold be pretty straight forward02:54
Elizabethi have a ecs board with intel core 2 duo i think 1.86Ghz02:54
F0oohioguy 50 miles closer waiting, hmm i think the later advice was better dont update02:54
MiLKok thx02:54
k1dugarhello everyone02:55
modocIs there a utility for watching a directory for changes (add/remove files, etc)?02:55
nickrudohioguy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47649/ , I'd run these overnight, the first if I wasn't already on line, the second if I was02:55
ohioguybut I don't like the idae of not getting security updates ,02:55
MiLKwhat format should the swap partition be MasterShrek?02:55
HoboBenAnyone else got a regularly-broken back button in swiftfox 3.0b2pre?02:55
k1dugarcan someone help me out with "seahorse-agent"02:55
MasterShrekMiLK, it shold be swap or maybe its called linux-swap02:55
modocMiLK: the type/format is swap02:55
MiLKah, im hguessing 'swap' lol02:56
MiLKyes02:56
jribmodoc: look into gamin, inotify02:56
jayproim having difficulty installing  libdvdcss2 & w32codecs02:56
bbardlbraddHey, I'm partitioning for 7.10, should this be logical or primary? Also, the mount point should be just "/" (without quotation) right?02:56
MiLKmy bad :P02:56
jayproanyone know what to do?02:56
MasterShrek!medibuntu | jaypro02:56
ubotujaypro: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org02:56
modocjrib: will do, thanks02:56
nickrudohioguy, you can drop the y from the -dy options if you don't want to manually do the actual upgrade install02:56
nickrudohioguy, I mean do want to02:56
bbardlbraddI'm setting it up to Dual boot Vista/7.1002:56
MasterShrekbbardlbradd, primary02:56
jayprothat was quick... thanks for the link MasterShrek02:56
MasterShrekbbardlbradd, coorect, just a / no quotes02:57
MasterShreknp jaypro02:57
Elizabethyeah is there any good reason to use anything but primary these days02:57
MiLKwhat format should my main linux drive be?02:57
MasterShrekif you want more than 4 partitions02:57
MasterShrekext3 MiLK02:57
MiLKthx02:57
bbardlbraddMastershrek, Thanks so much! Oh, and how much VM does 7.10 usually use?02:57
ArrPirateHello. I have a friend who is blind. She has very little vision. Is there an Ubuntu setup that she can download that is already set up for the blind or will I have to customize one for her?02:57
k1dugarI can't create SSH keys via "Seahorse", its missing. I can only create "PGP keys". Does anyone know the fix??02:57
MasterShrekbbardlbradd, it depends on alot of factors, are you worried about how much ram you have?02:58
jribmodoc: just read about incron, but depends on what you want to do02:58
bbardlbraddMasterShrek, I have only 1Gb of memory and GPU shares it.02:58
* stemount pokes kbrooks 02:58
stemount:002:58
MasterShrekbbardlbradd, youll be just fine, thats how my machine is set up02:59
modocjrib: I'd like to have something watches a directory periodicly and updates a playlist.02:59
k1dugarcan someone help me out??02:59
HoboBenbbardlbradd - with 2gb of RAM, ubuntu uses none of my swap here. With 512MB it uses something like 30MB02:59
ohioguynickrud  , thanks for the info ,, I'll try that ,02:59
jribmodoc: yep, you can do that with any of the three.  incron works like cron though02:59
bbardlbraddI have 36Gb @ my disposal, I plan on putting Leopard on the smallest patrician... just b/c i know it'll be a while before I work it all out right...02:59
Elizabethbbardlbradd unless you are gaming or running compiz with all the perks up high the gpu shouldn't use much, it kind of depends on what programs you are going to be running02:59
bbardlbraddHoboBen, orly? interesting.03:00
ArrPirateso, does anyone know if there's a blind-friendly ubuntu already set up?03:00
peepsalotanyone have a laptop with nvidia card that is capable of suspend?03:00
lbakalinskykidugar, what do u need?03:00
SteveScumi have a gig of ram in this one im on and ubuntu uses none of my swap03:00
nickrudohioguy, looking at that, I used the old method of getting a ppp connection, you'll also want to set up your dialup with pppconfig , it can coexist with the networkmanager version03:00
MiLKshould a swap partition be logical yeah?03:00
MasterShreknah03:00
bbardlbraddElizabeth, I won't be doing much w/ it... Just internet things and typing... basic sh*t03:00
k1dugarlbakalinsky: I can't create SSH keys via "Seahorse", its missing. I can only create "PGP keys".03:00
MasterShrekmake it primary MiLK03:00
SteveScumbut i have 2 gig swap03:00
MiLKprimary?03:00
MiLKok03:00
modocjrib: I see gamin and incron in the repos so I'll start there.03:01
MiLKand the location should be beginning or end?03:01
MasterShrekMiLK, doesnt matter, i usually put the swap at the end03:01
MiLKok cool03:01
andruki resumed my comp from hibernate and now the screen just flickers the cursor (nothing else) when i move the mouse03:01
HoboBenMiLK - end is faster, as it physically spins faster on the disk03:01
peepsalotwhat are the open source nvidia drivers called?03:01
nickrudpeepsalot, nv03:02
modocjrib: I'm thinking of creating an audacious plugin with this.03:02
MiLKcool HoboBen03:02
SteveScummilk, i usialy put swap on the end, because thats the fastest part of the drive03:02
ohioguynickrud ,,, I don't dial out from ubuntu , at the moment I'm dialing out with winxp (with int connection shareing ,) then through a linux router to my home network03:02
jribmodoc: then yeah, you want gamin or inotify03:02
Elizabethi can't find anything online why 64bit OSes all crash, but not 32 bit, i know my board/processor support them, can anyone think of a reason03:02
k1dugar lbakalinsky: I'm running seahorse 2.21.303:02
bbardlbraddNow it's asking me about swap space, it doesn't do this automatically I guess... should I make a new partition specifically for swap? How much should I dedicate to swap, like 2Gb?03:02
kevinkokeshcan anyone tell me how to install firefox 2? i downloaded and extracted the tar gz folder.. do i need to use the tar in synaptic? or use the extracted folder somehow03:03
MiLKand does the swap partition need a mount point specified?03:03
Elizabethcould it be my geforce or sound card, like it won't work if they are even installed03:03
SteveScummilk, no03:03
MasterShrekbbardlbradd, 1 gig, if thats how much ram you got03:03
MiLKok thx steve03:03
IdleOnebbardlbradd: 2x ram03:03
HoboBenElizabeth - apparently it's because a lot of the drivers aren't 64bit. Something like that, I heard03:03
nickrudkevinkokesh, why not just use the firefox that comes with ubuntu? It gets security updates regularly03:03
MasterShrekbbardlbradd, and yes, create one for it03:03
jaredI just did a fresh install of Gutsy, and now flash seems to be not working. I installed it through firefox, (flashplugin-nonfree or whatever the package is called) but websites say that I need to install flash, also the missing plugin thing pops up in firefox still. Any suggestions on how to get flash to work would be appreciated03:03
kevinkokeshnickrud: i am using ubuntu 5.1 and my updater thinger doesn't work??03:03
andrukkevinkokesh: i believe the firefox that comes with ubuntu is ff 203:03
kevinkokeshandruk: i have ff 1.0.5 , im on ubuntu 5.103:04
nickrudkevinkokesh, oh, that would be a good reason. The issue of security remains, though. just cd to the firefox folder, and type ./firefox in the terminal03:04
andrukjared: have you restarted firefox after installing flash?03:04
lbakalinskyKidugar, i've sent you a message via a private window03:04
jaredandruk, yes, and I just tried restarting my whole comp just incase it was something weird like that...03:04
dashuaWhere would I go to troubleshoot for power management (Gnome) when my LCD monitor will only sleep once after boot then stays on indefinitely?03:04
nickrudkevinkokesh, 5.10 (my favorite) doesn't get security updates anymore03:04
bbardlbraddWhat does it mean when it asks "Location for new partition" and has "Beginning" and "End"03:05
bbardlbradd?03:05
bbardlbraddShould Swap be logical?03:05
MiLKno bbardlbradd03:05
MiLKprimary03:05
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kevinkokeshnickrud: can't i install ff manually ? i downloaded it from mozilla's website03:05
MiLKand put it at the end :)03:05
Elizabethno bbardlbradd assume primary03:05
Cpudan80Hello all03:05
Cpudan80I am having trouble playing a DiVX mpg file in VLC03:06
Cpudan80I get no picture03:06
bbardlbraddMiLK, why? I put the EXT3 partition @ Beginning, should I change it?03:06
bbardlbraddI don't even know what that means... so I'm lost03:06
Cpudan80Does anyone have any ideas as to what might be wrong?03:06
linuxuserhow do i install downloaded software i tryed synaptic03:06
sander__hi folks03:06
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MasterShrekbbardlbradd, the ext3 at the beginning is fine03:06
sander__i need help03:06
Elizabethbbard its just the location on the hard drive, in relation to other partitions, this is important if you have to resize shrink etc.03:06
MiLKi dont think it matters03:06
MasterShrekbbardlbradd, put the swap at the end, both of them should be primary03:07
nickrudkevinkokesh, it's already ready to go. You can move the whole folder to /home/<you>  , then system->preferences->preferred apps, and change web browser to /home/<you>/firefoxfolder/firefox03:07
k1dugarlbakalinsky: I dint get your msg. I also sent you PM now, did you got it?03:07
heatmzzrname a good file manager?03:07
nickrudkevinkokesh, but you can't add it to the apt package management03:07
sander__how can i restart a session of X when i change pressiong ctrl+alt+f303:07
kevinkokeshnickrud, thank you. i thought that might be the case but I didn't know where it went. i'll try it, thanks03:07
MasterShreksander__, from the terminal: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart03:07
jriblinuxuser: what are you trying to install?  In general, you do not download things yourself, you install from the repositories using a program like synaptic.03:07
sander__MasterShrek: and if i dont have gdm ?03:08
linuxusertrying to install eclipse03:08
MasterShreksander__, what do you have? kde?03:08
MasterShrekuse kdm then03:08
sander__MasterShrek: ok i will test here.. thanks a lot03:08
jrib!info eclipse | linuxuser03:08
ubotulinuxuser: eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 412 kB03:08
k1dugarlbakalinsky: can you reply me here?03:08
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Elizabeth!info eclipse03:09
bbardlbraddSo it should be the linux part. then free space and then swap???03:09
eyemeansorry to ask this here but has any1 herd of mazysmadhouse website?03:09
kevinkokeshnickrud, there is nothing but a desktop folder in my home/kevin folder03:09
jriblinuxuser: eclipse is in the universe repository.  Have you enabled it in system -> administration -> software sources?03:09
jaredAnyone else able to help me with an issue with flash? I have it installed (adobe one), but websites keep saying I need to install it.03:09
jrib!offtopic | eyemean03:09
ubotueyemean: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!03:09
linuxuserk03:09
linuxuserthanks03:10
eyemeanjrib, i understand im just asking as i've been accidently locked out and do not know the irc channel, im sorry about that03:10
ElizabethIf you WERE going to install manually don't you put it in /usr/share/bin or /usr/local/bin i can't remember03:10
jribjared: you need to download the tar.gz from adobe and install the .so manually into your ~/.mozilla/.  The current package from the repositories has not yet been updated to use the recent update by adobe03:10
tyronepollerihello I have a huge problem with my video card compiz is working but games do not work at all. I turn every effect off but they still won't run properly. I think I have a problem with OpenGL03:10
bbardlbraddShould my partition list be Vista, Linux, Free space, and Swap... in that order???03:11
jribeyemean: #ubuntu-offtopic is better03:11
eyemeanjrib, thanx for ur help, much appreciated03:11
Elizabethbbardlbradd i really don't think it matters03:11
MasterShrekbbardlbradd, the order isnt extremely important03:11
tyronepolleriI think it should be Vista Linux Swap Free space  but i am not sure03:11
bbardlbraddk:)03:11
MasterShrekbbardlbradd, so youll be fine :)03:11
MasterShrektyronepolleri, it doesnt matter03:11
jaredjrib, do you think that it would be better to just wait for the update? Theres not really any urgency, I just did a clean install though, and was trying to get it working again03:11
k1dugarI can't create SSH keys via "Seahorse", its missing. I can only create "PGP keys". Does anyone know the fix??03:11
Elizabethas long as freespace is at the end or beginning is all03:12
MasterShreki dont think that matters either Elizabeth03:12
tyronepolleriMasterShrek, thanks, and can you help me with my video problem03:12
MasterShrekthe partitions are labeled either way, no matter where the free space is03:12
jribjared: well, as long as you understand what you are doing it doesn't really matter03:12
robrhi there, how to I get php to function with mysql, i am currently getting call to undefined function mysql_connect(); I have removed php5 and installed php5-mysql03:12
jaredjrib, alright, thanks for the help03:13
MasterShreknot really tyronepolleri, i dont use compiz, im against it03:13
GreevousDoes anyone know of a good use for the "Notes" feature in Nautilus?03:13
tyronepolleriMasterShrek, but the problem I think is opengl not compiz because i turn it off03:13
lafferjmIf when i try to connect to freenodes aqsis channel it says i need to be identified what does that mean?03:13
Elizabethtyronepolleri what games are you running?03:13
tyronepolleriany game does not run open arena 3d chess03:14
MasterShrek!register | lafferjm03:14
ubotulafferjm: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration03:14
MiLKanyone know of a good newbie guide to linux commands?03:14
Elizabethwhats your 3d card03:14
tyronepolleriElizabeth, nothing works03:14
drgebikonia I removed all beryl, compiz and emerald now when I log in I have to type metacity --replace to get a border how can I fix this border issue ?03:14
jrib!cli > milk (read the private message from ubotu)03:14
tyronepolleriElizabeth, intel 96503:14
sander__MasterShrek: hi03:14
MasterShrekdrgeb, add that command to your session (system > preferences > sessions)03:14
MasterShrekhello sander__, that work?03:14
MiLKthxs jrib :)03:15
sander__MasterShrek: this gdm -restart command restart all, i need something that resume my session (sorry for my bad english), can you understand?03:15
sander__MasterShrek: link change user in windows xp03:15
sander__MasterShrek: like change user in windows xp03:15
MasterShreksander__, ah i think i know what you mean, ctrl+alt+f7 do what you are looking for?03:15
lafferjmthanks03:15
Elizabethsander__, in some rare instances it is ctrl+alt+f8 in case f7 doesn't work, or even f903:16
drgebMasterShrek Another strange problem I have is that when I reboot the first time I login the X server is restarted and then when Iogin all is ok03:17
drgebseems like initially some processes are not automatically started but I have no idea what03:17
bacchistisn't there a way to not install to the hard drive but save settings/programs/files/etc to an external device?03:18
MasterShrekdrgeb, very strange, do a reboot, and pastebin the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old after you successfully log in03:18
DM|bacchist google Ubuntu persistant03:18
bacchistthanks!03:18
DM|ubuntu livecd persistant , or something03:18
DM|persistant is the key word03:18
bacchist:)03:19
Elizabethis a fashdrive OS noticeably faster than one on say an SATA I drive03:19
tyronepolleriElizabeth, is there anything that I can do?03:20
MasterShrekit depends on the other hardware too, and i dont know how fast usb can go or how fast sata can go03:20
drgebok brb03:20
LimCoreubuntu fails to play flash03:20
MasterShrek!flash03:20
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash03:20
LimCoreI installed GNASH, then kicked it out amd installed real flash player (adobe), firefox always tells me that Flash plugin is missing, then offers me to install it, and then always says that flash-nonfree is already installed and still doesnt play movies (after reboot)?03:21
MasterShrekLimCore, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree03:21
LimCoreMasterShrek: ^03:21
MasterShreka reboot wont help you for this03:21
LimCoreMasterShrek: what more is needed then installing flash and flash plugins03:21
MasterShrekideally, you only ever need to reboot when your kernel gets upgraded03:21
MasterShrekLimCore, that should be it i believe, are you using 64 bit ubuntu by chance?03:22
LimCoreMasterShrek: yes03:22
MasterShreksudo apt-get install nspluginwrapper03:22
MasterShrekflash is not supported in 64 bit, so nspluginwrapper uses the 32 bit plugin03:23
tyronepolleriplease help me. I get in the terminal you are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration) what can I do ? :(03:23
LimCoreI have it already03:23
MasterShrek!flash6403:23
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava03:23
lbakalinskykidugar check the private IM03:23
MasterShreklbakalinsky, he wont get it unless your nick is registered (just so u know)03:23
esoterikhas anyone here had success installing the 1.5.x lighttpd from source on gutsy?03:23
MasterShrekesoterik, why not just use apache?03:24
LimCoredo I have to use firefox32 ?03:24
esoterikMasterShrek: looking to play around with some lighttpd modules and use something in a smaller footprint03:24
MasterShrekLimCore, no, but you can03:24
Bawbatosany other gui's for iptables besides firestarter. firestarter does not seem to support 3 nics03:24
MasterShrekesoterik, having problems compiling it or what?03:24
MasterShrekBawbatos, i have not heard of one03:25
Bawbatosuhg.03:25
Bawbatos3 nics. it is so basic.03:25
MasterShrekdoesnt mean there isnt one03:25
MasterShrek!firewall03:25
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).03:25
esoterikthe compile process seems to go fine (new to it though, no major errors) but adding it to runit gives me errors, so I'm having trouble getting it to start03:25
LimCoreI have nspluginwrapper, and flash adobe packages... what more?03:25
lbakalinskyi could of sworn i logged in03:25
Bawbatosthanks.03:25
macandcheesehello all03:25
MasterShrekesoterik, add a command to start it to /etc/rc.local03:25
Bawbatosi hate iptables - i am moving a box from openbsd cuzi need some hardware support that is not there and iptables is driving me nuts03:25
MasterShrekLimCore, i dont really remember how to install the plugin, follow this link tho it should help you03:26
sander__MasterShrek: thanks man! is that! works great... :D03:26
MiLKsweet03:26
MasterShrek!flash64 | LimCore03:26
ubotuLimCore: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava03:26
macandcheesedoes anyone know how I can get my asus eax1600 silent video card to work fully with ubuntu???03:26
MasterShrekcool sander__ good to hear :)03:26
* MiLK has successfully installed ubuntu03:26
earlmredhmm, i just installed ubuntu from the alternative install cd, and it looks like it didn't make any changes to my mbr, so now I can't boot into my install (had windows installed w/ acronis bootloader on the mbr before). how do i fix this?03:26
MiLK:D03:26
* MasterShrek applauds MiLK 03:26
peepsalothow do I confirm what graphics driver I have installed?03:26
esoterikMasterShrek: what should i be entering into rc.local, havent used it before03:26
sander__MasterShrek: its will serve for many things hehehh03:26
sander__MasterShrek: thanks, see ya...03:27
MiLKwithout destroying my windows partition this time as well :)03:27
macandcheesedoes anyone know how I can get my asus eax1600 silent video card to work fully with ubuntu???03:27
LimCoreMasterShrek: I did thoes steps, still doesnt work03:27
MasterShrekLimCore, did you restart firefox afterwards?03:27
drgebMasterShrek the Xorg.0.log.old is located at http://pastebin.com/m6a342e3003:27
macandcheeseam I invisible?03:28
kappakappuccinoI see you03:28
macandcheeseor can you guys see what i am typing03:28
macandcheeseoh ok03:28
macandcheesewasn't sure03:28
macandcheesethanks bud03:28
heatmzzr_hello all03:28
MasterShrekdrgeb, hmm, i dont see anything that helps really...thats a very strange error, ive never heard of somethign like that before03:28
macandcheesedoes anyone know how I can get my asus eax1600 silent video card to work fully with ubuntu?  where can i find a working module03:28
drgebMasterShrek only strangeness I see is "(WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1"03:28
LimCoreMasterShrek: yes.   reinstalled  flashplugin-nonfree    reinstalled the wrapper, restarted ffox, still doesnt work03:28
MasterShrekdrgeb, but thats not whats causing the error i dont think, it would be (EE) not (WW)03:29
tehdaveSo, I got my bluetooth dongle to work (read: power surge in the house, computer reset, dongle magically works), and I was wondering if anyone knows another place to get the WMD driver for the Wiimote, as www.forthewiin.org seems to be down03:29
groovy2shoeshey, guys03:29
yan_when I boot I still see some messages rolling through the screen before the ubuntu splash screen comes up, how can I get rid of these messages?03:29
groovy2shoesI'm having trouble installing drivers for nvidia on Feisty03:30
macandcheesedoes anyone know how I can get my asus eax1600 silent video card to work fully with ubuntu?  where can i find a working module?  can anyone help me out?03:30
drgebMastershrek for some reason I feel the info logges on CTRL-ALT Terminals is not captured inside my dmesg or messages or syslog files03:30
Burlynntehdave: you can use the wiimote on your pc?03:30
esoterikgroovy: have you tried envy?03:30
MasterShrekLimCore, not really sure, i havent set up nspluginwrapper in awhile, and i dont really remember how to03:30
marx2kHas anyone seen the following message when running smbtree: "Server requested plaintext password but 'client use plaintext auth' is disabled"03:30
groovy2shoesesoterik, I'm just trying this out... my friend gave me a CD03:30
MasterShrekdrgeb, that info should be logged somewhere though03:30
tehdaveBurlynn: The Wiimote is a bluetooth device, so yes, yes you can XD03:30
bbardlbraddHow do I set Vista as first on GRUB list???03:31
earlmredokay, i'm using the rescue cd to boot off of the install, my screen goes blank, there's hard drive activity, and i can't seem to change out to a different vtty? ideas? i have an 8800gts ...03:31
Burlynntehdave: for your mouse huh? thats crazy. gotta look into that03:31
LimCorebbardlbradd: chainloader03:31
DeMoNSeEdwe hope you like it groovy2shoes03:31
MasterShrekbbardlbradd, move the vista section to the top of the list in /boot/grub/menu.list03:31
bbardlbraddLimCore, what's that?03:31
nickrudwhat version of fglrx does gutsy come with?03:31
esoterikgroovy: either download the new ubuntu live cd (gutsy) as nvidia worked flawlessly out of the box, otherwise google 'envy ubuntu' and download the script. it will auto setup the drivers for you in feisty, but requires an installed system i believe.03:31
bbardlbraddMasterShrek, that's it?03:31
marx2k!info fglrx03:32
ubotuPackage fglrx does not exist in gutsy03:32
groovy2shoesthanks, esoterik :)03:32
MasterShrekbbardlbradd, yeap, dont move it to the top of the file though, just put it above the first ubuntu entry03:32
tehdaveBurlynn: there's a few different things I've found, but what seems to make the most sense for me is something called WMD, which is actually a python script...but noone seems to have a mirror of it, just the main site (which is down)03:32
MasterShrektehdave, see if you can get to it using google's cache feature, they may have mirrors on there03:32
bbardlbraddMasterShrek, ok... if I'll look into it in a min. If it's not apparent, I'll ask more.03:32
earlmredokay, i'm using the rescue cd to boot off of the install, my screen goes blank, there's hard drive activity, and i can't seem to change out to a different vtty? ideas? i have an 8800gts ...03:33
drgebMastershrek is there away to force all messages to tty's to be pushed into a file ?03:33
floydiananybody to help me please?03:33
MasterShrekdrgeb, maybe, i wouldnt know how to though03:33
esoterikfloydian: whats up?03:33
macandcheesedoes anyone know how I can get my asus eax1600 silent video card to work fully with ubuntu?  where can i find a working module?  can anyone help me out?03:33
Cpudan80!divx03:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:33
macandcheesebasically i can't get it to full res without freezing03:34
esoterikmacandcheese: what type of card is it, ati or nvidia03:34
tehdaveMasterShrek: Is there a way to go directly to a cached page through google? it's not coming up with the site when I search for the URL directly -_-03:34
macandcheeseati03:34
Bawbatosanyway to stop dhcp from changed the resolv.conf03:35
esoterikmacandcheese: and your running gutsy?03:35
intelikeydrgeb cat /dev/tty<#> > filename    maybe  unless you mean all tty's03:35
LimCoresudoers seems like written by nerds for nerds, is there any gui to it?03:35
drgebMasterShrek cause I can clearly see that when I grep for certain statements on tty's that they are not to be found in any files located inside /var/log03:35
macandcheeseyes03:35
macandcheeseubuntu 7.1003:35
Cpudan80Hrm03:35
macogwLimCore: system > admin > users and groups03:35
macandcheeseit works right out of the install, but i can't gewt full res or 3d full speed03:35
Cpudan80I still can't get any movies to play -- after following the instructions at !divx03:36
macogwLimCore: just add them to the sudoers group03:36
Cpudan80I've tried VLC & Totem... but no luck03:36
Cpudan80Lots of sound, no picture03:36
macandcheeseand for some reason i can't get any desktop enhancements at all03:36
nickrudmacogw, you mean the admin group?03:36
LimCoremacogw: NO03:36
Cpudan80DivX MS-MPEG-4 Version 3 is what the file info says03:36
TheFishywhats a good browser for kde mint03:36
LimCoremacogw: I want the user to be needed to authenticate using root password, not own password03:36
intelikeyLimCore sudoers can be simple.    username ALL=(ALL) :commands ,you want ,user to be able to run ,here03:36
earlmredhow do i install grub on the mbr?03:36
macogwLimCore: there is no root password03:36
floydiani've got problem with wine and probably combiz as well.. i'm noob in linux, but everytime i lunch WoW trough Wine it freez the game every 2-15 minutes random. Any sugestions?03:36
TheFishyi dont want anything firefox, that stuff is lame...03:36
macogwLimCore: the root account is locked03:37
HoboBenCpudan80 - if you haven't tried this already, look for packages like "restricted extras" inside Applications > Add/Remove03:37
Cpudan80If anyone has any suggestions... I'd appreciate it03:37
LimCoremacogw: there is, I de-noobified ubuntu by sudo passwd root03:37
drgebdoes ubuntu have concept of bootlogd for gutsy version that is03:37
Cpudan80HoboBen: Got that one03:37
macogwLimCore: you'd want the person to not be a sudoer then and just let them type su03:37
nickrudLimCore, ah, that's not something sudo can do, it always auths against user password03:37
LimCorenickrud: huh?  I want simply to allow user to type  sudo foo  and then type ROOT password (not user password)03:37
* nickrud is hurt, he's used sudo since 200203:37
bbardlbraddDoes anyone know if the Belkin Wifi cards work in 7.10? It's detecting networks and asking for keys, but it's not connecting... is this common?03:38
macogwLimCore: thats not what sudo is for03:38
nickrudLimCore, precisely, you can't03:38
LimCorethis sucks03:38
macogwLimCore: you'd have to have them just use su03:38
macogwLimCore: thats how sudo always works03:38
LimCorewas sudo written by microsoft or what03:38
CaRtzjust installed ubuntu the other day and im wondering why we have to update the kernel?03:38
macogwLimCore: no it was written in 198503:38
jribLimCore: the sudoers man page explains the option you want, but I'm really curious as to what the purpose is?03:38
HoboBenCpudan80, sorry then - I can't remember what to do. It's ages since I configured my other distros with multimedia stuff03:38
LimCoreby nerds?03:38
intelikeyLimCore sudo doesn't use root password unless root is the one calling   and that would be redundant03:38
Cpudan80It's ok03:38
macogwCaRtz: adds & updates drivers and gets rid of security vulnerabilities03:38
Cpudan80maybe someone else has an idea?03:38
nickrudLimCore, sudo is designed to give users some root privs, if someone knows the root password, why use sudo?03:38
macandcheese???03:39
CaRtzmacogw: so that's why. thank you.03:39
LimCorethe problem is, that entire ubuntu is using  gsudo  and shit,  and I need this to ask root password, since asking user password is horribly insercure03:39
macogwLimCore: why would you want to give them the root password anyway?03:39
LimCoreit's so insecure like vista03:39
macogwLimCore: no. opposite03:39
LimCoremacogw: nope03:39
macogwLimCore: the reason we lock root is so that someone can't know "root" then brute force the password. they need to know the usrname too03:39
jribLimCore: only users in the "admin" group can use sudo03:39
elbandbalikpapan03:39
MasterShrekLimCore, only users that are allowed to use sudo are allowed to do that03:39
macogwLimCore: then add on that you can see WHICH user did the stupid thing that broke it03:40
nickrudLimCore, so don't add a user to the admin group, voila, no gksudo03:40
intelikeyLimCore giving users the root password is just as insecure03:40
LimCoremacogw: user X clicked FireFox install flash plugin;  now what is more secure:  a) he have to input own password and then he can change system  -or-  b) he have to call admin to have root password03:40
bbardlbraddDoes anyone know if the Belkin Wifi cards work in 7.10? It's detecting networks and asking for keys, but it's not connecting... is this common?03:40
macogwLimCore: and that you dont have to find some way to make a user forget the root password03:40
elbandoioi03:40
elbandbalikpapan03:40
nickrudLimCore, see my last, that's how you secure sudo.03:40
bbardlbraddelband, me?03:40
kappakappuccinoholy cow! pidgin is using 54k in memory right now03:41
earlmredkappakappuccino what a hog.03:41
kappakappuccinothis can't be right03:41
macogwLimCore: to revoke a users sudo rights does not require that things change for anyone else.  if you want someone to not be able to touch the system after they know the root password, you either need to make them forget the password (yeah, thatll work) or change it and make everyone else go memorize yet another password03:41
MasterShrek54k? why wouldnt that be right?03:41
LimCorenickrud: but if user clicks firefox install p;ugin (that runs gksudo) and he calls admin, and admin inputs password for him, then its what I need also03:41
drafaelbbardlbradd: this laptop has a belkin in it right now03:41
MasterShrekdoesnt sound too out of the ordinary, 64m maybe03:41
Khisanththe root pass is all or nothing, sudo allows you to go somewhere in between03:41
LimCoremacogw: or admin type it for user03:41
DarkMageZhi, i'm missing my firefox menu entry in gnome. the .desktop file is still in /usr/share/applications/ . any ideas?03:41
nickrudLimCore, ah, well, I'd expect the admin to set up the machine ahead of time03:42
kappakappuccinowell firefox is using 83,xxx k right now03:42
bbardlbradddrafael, thanks for the reply, I got it working. Sorry for the waste.03:42
kappakappuccinoand pidgin close 2nd at 54,xxx k03:42
LimCorenickrud: its not my