/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/12/24/#kubuntu.txt

Schuenemann	NickPresta, it's obvious that it won't improve it, I want to know if it will be worse than the source...	00:00
nosredna_ekim	hey everyone! its Jonathon Riddell's Birthday! everyone go over to #kubuntu-devel and wish him a happy birthday	00:00
A\|i3N8	ok cool cause i can't find it Nosredna	00:01
alwrwr2003	hi all	00:01
nosredna_ekim	A\|i3N8: http://digitalife.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/using-your-mobile-phone-as-a-gprs-modem-with-ubuntu-linux-via-dku-2-usb-cable/	00:02
alwrwr2003	guys how can i run compiz? i've installed all the packages but when i run it it said i have to install compiz-gnome-manager but i got a "break install" note when i request to install it.	00:03
Hirvinen	!compiz \| alwrwr2003	00:03
ubotu	alwrwr2003: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	00:03
nosredna_ekim	A\|i3N8: http://microdotsagamedev.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/usb-mobile-phone-modem-under-linux/	00:04
NeoFax	sourcemaker: Here is a better spot: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/	00:04
A\|i3N8	Whoa THANK YOU noredna	00:05
A\|i3N8	nosredna	00:05
A\|i3N8	hehe	00:05
sourcemaker	NeoFax: And now... download and install?	00:05
noaXess	how can is see, what type my integrated webcam is? lsusb normally?	00:05
A\|i3N8	wish i had a printer. lol. Can I save that as text and pull it up in kubuntu??	00:05
noaXess	!webcam	00:05
ubotu	Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras	00:05
A\|i3N8	or do i gotta somehow mount the partition which I've forgotten how to do lol	00:06
NeoFax	sourcemaker: Yes, but keep the page open as you may need to download some more files	00:06
basy	Hi can anybody help, all my X-browsers: Firefox, Konqueror, Opera, Galeon freeze downloading of some pages (www.ubunto.com), but text based like w3m and links are ok...	00:06
NeoFax	noaXess: lsusb or lspci	00:07
nosredna_ekim	A\|i3N8: no... you can't mount that partition with vista	00:07
NeoFax	basy: Try starting one of them from the CLI to see exactly what your error is.	00:07
A\|i3N8	so um.. how um.. can i like, .. yea... get the txt file onto linux? lol	00:07
nosredna_ekim	A\|i3N8: you can probably save it on vista a putll it up with kubuntu though. probably easiest just to write down the essential instructions.	00:08
A\|i3N8	that's what i jeant lol	00:08
A\|i3N8	meant	00:08
A\|i3N8	yea true.	00:08
A\|i3N8	i'll try to retrieve it first i guess. hehe. Thanks :) Be back to let you know if I got it working	00:08
basy	how to strat it throu CLI? plz	00:09
basy	from terminal?	00:09
sourcemaker	NeoFax: I am sorry... I do not know about apt... was is udep?	00:09
sourcemaker	NeoFax: what is	00:09
NeoFax	sourcemaker: That is the deb files that the installer uses to install the kernel.	00:10
NeoFax	This is probably the one you want: linux-image-2.6.24-2-generic_2.6.24-2.4_i386.deb	00:10
alwrwr2003	guys when ever i try to install compiz it shows me a msg that says Broken Packages!	00:12
alwrwr2003	what can i do	00:12
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: sudo aptitude install -f	00:13
Dr_willis	then apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, then try again..	00:13
alwrwr2003	thx Neo i will try	00:14
NeoFax	Dr_willis: You shouldn't have to do the update and upgrade. It should fix itself	00:14
Dr_willis	Should.. :)	00:14
alwrwr2003	doesn't work :(	00:15
alwrwr2003	it shows me this msg	00:15
alwrwr2003	The following packages have unmet dependencies:	00:15
alwrwr2003	emerald: Depends: libemeraldengine0 but it is not going to be installed	00:15
alwrwr2003	Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable	00:15
alwrwr2003	E: Broken packages	00:15
NeoFax	OK, then sudo aptitude remove emerald and wait for libwnck18 to be put in the repos	00:16
basy	Hi, all my X-browsers (Firefox, Konqueror, Opera, Galeon) freeze downloading of lots of pages (www.ubuntu.com), and never display full page, but text based browsers works OK, check, plz: http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0006tf9.jpg	00:16
alwrwr2003	thx man i will try	00:16
NeoFax	basy: Did you run one from the CLI like I said before to see the error?	00:16
basy	<NeoFax>: how can i run it from CLI, what does it mean plz?	00:17
alwrwr2003	i found libwnck22 installed	00:17
alwrwr2003	what should i do next?	00:17
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: sudo aptitude remove libwnck22	00:18
killer_	I was told that gutsy had write access to NTFS upon install, but dolphin does not mount the NTFS partition.. any help?	00:18
alwrwr2003	removed	00:18
alwrwr2003	it ask me to remove compiz and compiz-gnome	00:19
alwrwr2003	should i do so?	00:19
basy	<NeoFax>: i tried this strace konqueror	00:19
noaXess	!mouse	00:20
ubotu	Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto	00:20
killer_	hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000	00:20
sourcemaker	NeoFax: which package is required for the firmware? I have installed linux-image-2.6.24-2-generic_2.6.24-2.4_i386.deb => /lib/firmware/2.6.24-2-generic: not found	00:20
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: Yes. Then install emerald first then install compiz	00:20
NeoFax	sourcemaker: Use the modules deb	00:20
alwrwr2003	ok thx Neo	00:21
NeoFax	basy: What was the error?	00:21
noaXess	!logitech	00:21
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:21
noaXess	!mx700	00:21
fulat2k	hi folks, what's the easiest way to encode xvid/divx files to psp format? i've tried mencoder, but doesn't seem to be working.	00:21
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mx700 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:21
killer_	!anything	00:21
ubotu	So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.	00:21
killer_	cool.. they were thinking :)	00:22
basy	<NeoFax>; and when it feezes there was infinity loop of: select(22, [3 4 5 7 9 12 13 14 15 16 18 19 20 21], [], [], {0, 49505}) = 0 (Timeout)	00:22
basy	<NeoFax> but half of page is ok, can you check: http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0006tf9.jpg	00:23
sourcemaker	NeoFax: There are a lot of modules...	00:24
NeoFax	fulat2k: http://pspvc.sourceforge.net/	00:24
basy	<NeoFax> sorry, i'll wait until you help sourcemaker	00:25
killer_	in System Settings->Disk&Filesystems when I click Administrator Mode, I never get administrator mode.. it just goes back to non-admin	00:26
dreamcoder	hello	00:26
NeoFax	sourcemaker: Try: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/	00:27
sourcemaker	NeoFax: Thank's I will try	00:28
NeoFax	basy: I can't help out with strace. Try doing what I said and open konsole and type firefox > firefox-error.txt & When it crashes, upload the text file to pastebin	00:28
alwrwr2003	Neo i tried to install emerald but i got this msg	00:28
alwrwr2003	The following packages have unmet dependencies:	00:28
alwrwr2003	emerald: Depends: libemeraldengine0 but it is not going to be installed	00:28
alwrwr2003	Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable	00:28
alwrwr2003	E: Broken packages	00:28
alwrwr2003	i've already installed libwnck22	00:29
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: Where are you getting emerald from?	00:29
alwrwr2003	i just write the command in the terminal sudo apt-get install emerald	00:29
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: Please post your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin	00:29
dreamcoder	meryy xmas to everyone! ho ho ho lol	00:29
alwrwr2003	sry but what is pastebin?	00:30
sourcemaker	NeoFax: It seems to be working...	00:30
basy	<NeoFax>: ok i'm doing thanx	00:30
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: http://pastebin.com/	00:30
mygoto	hello	00:31
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: You copy and paste your sources.list there. It will then spit out a webpage. Copy the URL and paste here.	00:31
killer_	how do I make hald obey users above 1000 UID?	00:32
sourcemaker	NeoFax: Thanks for helping me .... I rebooting my system now	00:32
alwrwr2003	http://pastebin.com/m749480d4	00:32
NeoFax	killer_: To mount ntfs do sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -L label-for-your-drive-here /media/directory-you-make	00:33
alwrwr2003	this is the url	00:33
someon1	does anyone know of a software that will allow me to extract numerical data from a graph?	00:33
Alchera	g'day receiving (again) this message when i run ksystemlog >> You do not have sufficient permissions to read '/var/log/syslog' also same with kernel.log	00:34
mygoto	anyone try kde4?	00:34
Schuenemann	someon1, what kind of graph?	00:34
someon1	a 2-d image -- pdf, jpeg, whatever	00:34
someon1	I've seen something for Mac OSX (that isnt freeware) while will do exactly this	00:34
Schuenemann	huh... I don't think that's possible... or easy	00:34
killer_	NeoFax: I'd like to click the /media directory and have it mounted as it is advertised	00:34
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someon1	you import the image, tell the program what the axis are, and then click on points on the plot	00:35
killer_	NeoFax: when I click "system menu" icon next to the K{gear},then click Storage Media the NTFS is already on the list	00:36
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: Comment out the download.tuxfamily line as you are mixing feisty with gutsy and I would comment out the CD line as well. Then try installing emerald	00:37
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alwrwr2003	ok	00:37
basy	<NeoFax>: i tried ( konqueror > kon.log & ) but kon.log was empty, same with firefox :(	00:38
NeoFax	killer_: That is not mounting the system, nor is it write capable as far as I know. Also, to have the drive to automount you would need to put it into your /etc/fstab file	00:38
NeoFax	basy: Try checking out your ~/.xsession-errors file. Also, is this website flash driven?	00:38
killer_	NeoFax: I put it in the fstab, then when I click it in /media I got an error about something died unexpectedly	00:39
killer_	NeoFax: also tried to configure it w/ "sudo systemsettings"	00:39
killer_	NeoFax: that did not work either	00:39
NeoFax	killer_: try doing sudo mount -a and see what error you get.	00:40
alwrwr2003	ok emerald has been installed !! thank u very much Neo ! should i now install compiz??	00:41
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: Yes	00:41
alwrwr2003	ok	00:42
killer_	NeoFax: I know I can subvert the kubuntu mounting/system administration and manually get the partition mounted	00:42
killer_	NeoFax: my intent is to learn how to teach people over the phone to get past these everyday hurdles	00:42
NeoFax	killer_: The point is to get the error. and rule out mount then solve what the error is. It just may not be a hal problem	00:43
killer_	NeoFax: currently I just ssh into their box and fix things.. but they should be able to fix their own issues	00:43
killer_	NeoFax: ok.. try that soon then.. I'm currently googling howto manage hald-storage	00:44
johey	Why is freemind not in Gutsy's repository? Do I need to install it manually?	00:45
johey	If I remember correctly, freemind was in Feisty's main repo.	00:45
alwrwr2003	neo i've installed all the compiz packages	00:45
alwrwr2003	how can i run it now?	00:45
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: Are you in KDE?	00:46
alwrwr2003	yes	00:46
killer_	!blkid.tab	00:46
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about blkid.tab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:46
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: compiz --replace & then emerald --replace &	00:46
killer_	figures	00:46
alwrwr2003	i got this msg when i type compiz --replace	00:47
alwrwr2003	Checking for Xgl: not present.	00:47
alwrwr2003	No whitelisted driver found	00:47
alwrwr2003	aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity	00:47
alwrwr2003	no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting	00:47
jaylc185	Is there a KDE development environment in kubuntu like there is in knoppix?	00:48
basy	I got a lot of => ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.8/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81) inside .xsession-errors, is it OK?	00:48
NeoFax	basy: That is fine, as the generic icon will be used.	00:49
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: What video card do you have?	00:50
il12	ok. I have a question of opinion: VMWare or Virt. Box?	00:50
alwrwr2003	nVedia 8500	00:50
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: What driver are you using in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?	00:50
Dr_willis	il12, install both. :)	00:50
Dr_willis	il12, i find some live cd's and disrtos have issues with one or the other.	00:50
il12	Dr_willis: tyvm.	00:51
firecrotch	!madwifi	00:51
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	00:51
il12	is it just apt-get install vmware and apt-get install virtualbox? or..?	00:51
alwrwr2003	Section "Device"	00:51
alwrwr2003	Identifier"nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8500 GT]"	00:51
alwrwr2003	Driver"nv"	00:51
alwrwr2003	BusID"PCI:1:0:0"	00:51
il12	dr_willis: install vmware and install virtualbox or....?	00:53
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adrian_	hola	00:55
Schuenemann	alwrwr2003, did you install nvidia-glx?	00:56
Dr_willis	il12, install them both....	00:56
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il12	dr_willis: I am asking as to the app name for the command-line installer	00:56
alwrwr2003	no	00:56
Dr_willis	!vmware	00:56
ubotu	VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers	00:56
Dr_willis	!virtualbox	00:56
ubotu	VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox	00:56
Schuenemann	alwrwr2003, what happens if you type glxgears?	00:57
il12	:( not available for Gutsy..... ok. So I suppose the second one will have to do.	00:57
alwrwr2003	i see some gears moving	00:58
Schuenemann	moving fast?	00:58
alwrwr2003	no	00:58
sourcemaker	NeoFax: Nice try... but I also have to update the nvidia modules....	00:58
alwrwr2003	normal i think	00:58
Dr_willis	They are both avail for gutsy	00:58
Dr_willis	You just have touse vmwareserver for gutsy :)	00:59
NeoFax	sourcemaker: Yes, you will have to download that deb as well.	00:59
il12	Oh. alright.	00:59
il12	TY! haha. doctor knows best. :P	00:59
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NeoFax	alwrwr2003: do sudo dpkg -L \| grep nvidia	00:59
Schuenemann	alwrwr2003, you might try to change that 'nv' to 'nvidia', I had to do that when I had one	01:00
Dr_willis	What one is best - depends on what you plan on running on it.	01:00
sourcemaker	NeoFax: There are a lot of problems for just fixing a minor problem with a WLAN card...	01:00
dreamcoder	Merry Xmas everyone Night Night ! xxx	01:00
killer_	!/media system	01:00
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about media system - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	01:00
il12	a game.... that's all, for the moment, at any rate. LastChaos by Aeria Games if that makes any difference.	01:00
basy	I can't install flash (aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree)=> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz, i tried 10 times, why?	01:00
alwrwr2003	i got this	01:00
alwrwr2003	dpkg-query: --listfiles needs at least one package name argument	01:00
il12	Dr_Willis: what about Qemu? the Ubuntu VMware page says to also consider that program.	01:01
killer_	NeoFax: any tips or URLs on how to configure /media mounted filesystems?	01:02
sourcemaker	NeoFax: It's like going back to gentoo... doing all yourself...	01:02
Dr_willis	-------> What one is best - depends on what you plan on running on it.	01:02
Dr_willis	:)	01:02
il12	ok.. do you know which would be best for running a game?	01:03
NeoFax	sourcemaker: Kinda, but you can use the restricted drivers package from hardy and you should be fine	01:03
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: OK try with a lower case l	01:04
Dr_willis	il12, for a 3d game.. None of them.	01:05
alwrwr2003	sry do u mean i should replace nv with nividia in the xorg.conf?	01:05
Dr_willis	il12, they are designed to run the whole OS. Not individual apps.	01:05
il12	Ok, so I suppose I just keep my windows for that then?	01:05
alwrwr2003	tried and showed me this	01:05
NeoFax	killer_: Check up on hal rules. That is what actually mounts drives that are not permanently attached	01:05
alwrwr2003	ii nvidia-kernel-common 20051028+1ubuntu7 NVIDIA binary kernel module common files	01:06
il12	I just heard some mention of people playing WoW earlier, so I thought I'd see if I could get LC to work maybe in a similar way.	01:06
NeoFax	alwrwr2003: Do you have this package installed along with the nvidia-glx package and xserver-xorg-xgl package?	01:07
NeoFax	If so, then yes, just change nv to nvidia.	01:07
Dr_willis	il12, they are running WoW with Wine, or Cedega.	01:07
Dr_willis	il12, Wine is different in what it does from vmware/virtualbox/qemu	01:08
Schuenemann	what's so special about cedega?	01:08
il12	Dr_willis: I've tried wine, and apparently there is some sort of a security protection measure with LC that won't allow it to be run. I get the error that it is already running on my machine.	01:08
Dr_willis	Cedega is wine tweaked out for games. and with a nicer interface	01:08
Dr_willis	il12, whats LC ?	01:09
alwrwr2003	i have this installed "xserver-xorg-core" but i can't see xgl .. the "nvidia-glx" is not installed .. should i install it?	01:09
il12	LC = LastChaos by Aeria Games	01:09
il12	the game. sorry	01:09
firecrotch	il12: Have you installed it multiple times on any computer?	01:10
il12	and Cedega is by subscription only so I'll have to pass on that.	01:10
killer_	NeoFax: cool.. been googling for that info, "man hald" exposes no config info, kinda sad really	01:10
il12	firecrotch: no. it's a free game, just a 400+MB download, install it, download the patches and login.	01:10
firecrotch	il12: Oh, I must have been thinking of some other game then or something	01:11
Alchera	okies .. back :) Joyeux Noël	01:11
Dr_willis	il12, You run the game installer with wine and it says the game is allready installed?	01:11
il12	firecrotch: np, you had a better idea than I did. I've no idea of what to do or to try. apparently it doesn't do this error on Ubuntu Feisty.	01:11
[GhOsT]	is there anyone have/had any problem with usplash/splashy in (k)ubuntu gutsy 7.10 64-bit ?	01:11
il12	Dr_willis: no, I attempt to launch the game and it says it is already running.	01:12
mani213	whats the best place to get mouse theme?	01:12
Dr_willis	il12, Interesting.. got a URL? ill try it real fast.	01:12
sourcemaker	alwrwr2003: it's just have 5,2K --- right?	01:13
Schuenemann	mani213, kde-look.org	01:13
alwrwr2003	the nvidia-glx is 13 MB	01:13
alwrwr2003	i'm downloading it right now	01:13
Schuenemann	!nvidia \| alwrwr2003	01:13
ubotu	alwrwr2003: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	01:13
Schuenemann	have you read that?	01:13
Alchera	has anyone installed NUT (Network UPS Tools) ?	01:14
alwrwr2003	no i didn't	01:14
sourcemaker	Schuenemann: I will use the lastest version available... not the current kernel version--- this does not work	01:14
il12	dr_willis: http://lastchaos.aeriagames.com/download	01:14
Schuenemann	sourcemaker, really? latest version of what?	01:14
alwrwr2003	i've installed nvidia-glx now	01:15
sourcemaker	Schuenemann: the kernel version... and all it's dependencies	01:15
Schuenemann	sourcemaker, how did you set it up?	01:16
sourcemaker	Schuenemann: It does not work...	01:16
Schuenemann	what doesn't?	01:16
il12	dr_willis: this site, however, seems to present a 'crack' that you can use to bypass this 'error'.. http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6828&iTestingId=9708	01:16
sourcemaker	I am sorry... but I will install Gentoo on this system... It's not a option for me for waiting 4 months... for getting the wlan card to work...	01:17
killer_	dolphin seems to hide any information that is useful	01:18
Dr_willis	il12, cracks are normally for copy protection. :) id hope a free game has none	01:18
killer_	may end up uninstalling it	01:18
il12	dr_willis: well, apparently there is a 'cheat protection' which is what gives me the error that says it is already running.	01:18
sourcemaker	NeoFax: I resign...	01:19
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Dr_willis	il12, dont see how thats cheating really.. every other MMORPG out allows multi instances. :)	01:20
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mani213	whats the best msn for linux?	01:20
Schuenemann	mani213, I think amsn	01:20
mani213	any other ones	01:20
mani213	i tried amsn wasnt really all that	01:20
il12	dr_willis: me neither, it's just what I found on this site: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6828&iTestingId=9708	01:20
Schuenemann	well, at least it's what looks more like M$ msn	01:20
NeoFax	sourcemaker: What's wrong now?	01:20
il12	dr_willis: it's in the first comment that it explains the issue. shrug now I just need to -find- that app.	01:21
Schuenemann	mani213, there is also pidgin and kopete, but they are generic IM's and don't look like MSN. Why didn't you like amsn?	01:21
sourcemaker	NeoFax: nothing is working... :-) I have installed all the modules... but nvidia is not coming up...	01:21
Dr_willis	il12, yep. Saw that.. no links given to find it. :)	01:21
NeoFax	sourcemaker: Did you installed the restricted drivers module	01:21
mani213	amsn doesnt have the sound when i get a message	01:21
mani213	or is it i didnt install the mother board driver yet?	01:21
sourcemaker	NeoFax: And for the moment... I think.. I do not understand alle the specifics of ubuntu..	01:21
Schuenemann	mani213, it does	01:21
Schuenemann	mani213, is your sound working anywhere?	01:22
il12	dr_willis: yeah.... but I've no other solution. There are other comments that others cannot find this either.	01:22
mani213	yeye when i log into linux i hear the sound as well ass logging off	01:22
alwrwr2003	ok guys i enabled nvidia acceleration through restricted drivers module	01:22
alwrwr2003	and it's need the computer to be restarted	01:22
NeoFax	Going to watch a movie. will see you all tomorrow! G'Night!	01:22
alwrwr2003	thank u all for ur help	01:23
alwrwr2003	i'm restarting my computer and i will be right back	01:23
Schuenemann	mani213, well, I there is sound in preferences. I disable because I think it's annoying	01:23
mani213	lol kk thanks ill play around with it	01:24
Schuenemann	mani213, I prefer it than M$'s. I can disable most of the annoying things and it has plugins	01:25
sourcemaker	NeoFax: It's there any internal documentation available... how Kubuntu works... (technical details)?	01:25
killer_	hmm.. hald is looking more like a winbox util, no known ways to configure it, users are locked out of when thehy shouldn't be	01:25
mani213	one more question you know how the mac computers have that shortcut i cons on the dock what do i need to get that for linux	01:25
killer_	looks like th best way to run kubuntu gutsy is just to use root as your main login	01:26
sourcemaker	NeoFax: I am not interessted in asking stupid questions... without success... maybe I am wrong... and have forgot a important step...	01:26
killer_	sorry all for ranting .. but I'm finding kubuntu less useable each distro	01:27
killer_	I install a new version, then find I spend hours trying to things I need on a daily basis, that I could do previously	01:27
il12	why is the Kubuntu .iso file larger than the Ubuntu .iso file?	01:28
il12	ok nvm that's kind of an obvious question.	01:30
mani213	whats a good program to get that icon dock for linux?	01:30
killer_	anyone know how to configure hald to allow uid 1000 to have access and not be blocked?	01:32
Dr_willis	killer_, ive heard thers some hal/uid1000/mounting some drives issue/bug. but never seen a de-facto reason for it all	01:35
Dr_willis	I just mount the things manually :)	01:35
killer_	hmm.. possibly could change my user to uid 500 may resolve it	01:36
killer_	but I'd actually like to know how to configure it, and not work around it	01:36
Dr_willis	im wonder ing if its more of a 'all users cant access it' 1000 is the default initial user.	01:38
killer_	Dr_willis: I mount things manually too, but I'm trying to get people to use kubuntu instead of windows, and problems I could solve with a click or two in Mandrake 9.2 seem increasingly impossible w/ kubuntu	01:38
Dr_willis	killer_, i find the problems with 'adding user friendly features' to be the bigger and bigger issue these days.	01:38
killer_	I've been using kubuntu as my only workstation since 6.1	01:38
Dr_willis	sinve ive not experienced the user1000 hald issue.. i cant really say what the deal is or how to fix it.	01:39
killer_	I thought the 'motto' of ubuntu was to make linux useable to the masses.. so I've been promoting it to lots of people	01:39
Dr_willis	I imagine theres a 100+ page forume thing is.	01:39
Dr_willis	killer_, one bug does not mean the whole OS is trash.. if thats the case. all of them are Trash.	01:40
Dr_willis	i found gutsy to work fine on all my machines. I cant even recall any issues. I did do Clean installs on them all also. Not upgrades	01:40
killer_	Dr_willis: no.. it doesn't I still use it dedicatedly.. but win-only users should be able to find answers w/o even calling me, and that hasn't been happeening	01:41
killer_	-e	01:41
Dr_willis	Im reminded of all the windows-tech support i do at work all day. :)	01:42
Dr_willis	But automounting is still 100% better then it was say 2 years ago.. and i imagine it will only getbetter	01:43
Breetai	Hi all, I am running gusty on a system where I have loaded the nvidia restricted drivers. How do I get the cool compiz effects?	01:43
Breetai	I don't see any way to turn them on or control them.	01:44
killer_	Dr_willis: I agree.. don't misinterpret me, I'm not dogging the OS.. I like it alot.. I'm trying to learn the changes of the new gutsy distro	01:44
firecrotch	!compiz-fusion	01:44
ubotu	Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	01:44
Breetai	ubotu: thanks alot.	01:46
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks alot. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	01:46
killer_	Dr_willis: people say "Im tired of spyware" and tell them to d/l the new kubuntu and install it, call if they have questions	01:46
killer_	but I almost never update my workstation, I get it working and use it for 3-5 years	01:47
Schuenemann	killer_, just curious, who are these "people"?	01:47
killer_	now I find when I get called, I say "do this" and they respond, "I don't see that"	01:47
* Dr_willis checks the forums for hal 1000 refused		01:47
killer_	customers, cousins, family, strangers who have been pointed to me by others to put onto linux	01:47
Dr_willis	and what do i find.. one guy basicially teaching the other the linux fundamentals in a thread.. how to sudo.. how to do this.. argh.. time to start skimming :)	01:48
killer_	and I give them all the advice "just do "man <command>" for all the info you need	01:48
killer_	now I"m finding more things are missing the man pages	01:49
killer_	Dr_willis: yep.. someone saying "sudo dolphin" .. I want to configure the OS to work w/ the user, not configure the USER to work around the OS :)	01:50
killer_	Dr_willis: I think very few need ms windows anymore	01:50
killer_	most do email, read PDFs browse the web, create documents.. none of which require ms winxp anymore	01:51
Dr_willis	Im still not even clear on the EXACT PROBLEM. :)	01:51
Dr_willis	they go on about the fstab and stuff.. but hald is whats used by the automounting stuff I thought	01:51
killer_	hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000	01:52
Dr_willis	an entry in the fstab makes the automounter ignore it. i thought	01:52
Dr_willis	and what/when/where is that message appearing?	01:52
killer_	I need hal-storage-mount-all-options to NOT refuse uid 1000	01:52
killer_	in dolphin, I click one of the hard disk icons that show up	01:52
Dr_willis	and thers no fstab entry for those hard drives? these are removeable or Non remvoeable hds ?	01:53
killer_	so I installed gutsy and open storage media, then click an HD, that's as far as I got	01:53
nosrednaekim	killer_: modify its settings in systemsettings->advanced->disks and filesystems	01:53
killer_	nosrednaekim: that brought me to my second problem. I could not get administrator mode,	01:53
nosrednaekim	killer_: what happened.	01:54
killer_	nosrednaekim: I had to do sudo systemsettings	01:54
Dr_willis	killer_, ive noticed that in some of the config apps - the 'administartor mode' button is off the bottom of the screen.	01:54
Dr_willis	maxamize the window will make it show up properly	01:54
nosrednaekim	yeah	01:55
Dr_willis	I thionk part of that is due to how some of them are 'embeded' in the system settings tool	01:55
killer_	nosrednaekim: I click administrator mode, and it goes gray, then goes bright again and never asks for password	01:55
Dr_willis	Hmm.. now thats different. :)	01:55
nosrednaekim	killer_: well, running kdesuso systemsettings should work...	01:56
nosrednaekim	*kdesudo	01:56
killer_	nosrednaekim: yep... I've had to do that in the past, and a logout/login may fix that also, but I'd like to know why it's broke,	01:57
nosrednaekim	killer_: don't really know... but lets get back to your disk mounting. can you modify it in that tool?	01:57
killer_	nosrednaekim: I quit using windows in 2001 because I got tired of needless logouts and reboots	01:58
nosrednaekim	no need for a reboot...	01:58
nosrednaekim	or logout.	01:58
Dr_willis	Hmm.. all the fix's i see for the uid1000 issue. are basicially 'put a proper entry in the fstab' :)	01:59
killer_	nosrednaekim: when I try to modify the partition settings, it places an entry in fstab that breaks dolphin	01:59
nosrednaekim	killer_: how does it break it? what does it say?	01:59
wry	havin trouble with adept... more or less can't find anything and I've apparently selected the multi and universe repositories	02:00
nosrednaekim	wry: did you press the "reload(or whatever its called)" button	02:00
killer_	Dr_willis: nosrednaekim: I don't see an entry for /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab, but it's in dolphin..	02:00
wry	yup	02:00
nosrednaekim	wry: did you go to adept->manage repositories and check all the options except source code?	02:01
wry	I've tried to upgrade too, but it crashes at 50%	02:01
killer_	nosrednaekim: I got a "died unexpectedly" message.. sorry for the generic info, but I deleted the fstab entry and was back to the hald uid 1000 issue	02:01
wubba	Could someone help me with setting up a wireless USB ethernet card on ubuntu?	02:01
nosrednaekim	killer_: thats ok.	02:02
Dr_willis	killer_, this is where the automounting stuff differes from the fstab :) if its in fstab.. its not gettting autopmounted any more by hald. Its gettuing mounted by the system at boot.	02:02
Dr_willis	OR you can make it where a user can mount it on the fly.	02:02
nosrednaekim	killer_: hmm try this "sudo chmod a+w /dev/sda1"	02:02
Dr_willis	disk not in fstab, system tryes the hal automounting.. in fstab..hal ignores it. :)	02:02
killer_	Dr_willis: but it's not mounted.. that's my problem.. I have no access to the /dev/sda1 data	02:03
Dr_willis	but the help/threads i am seeing on this - seem to ignreo that fact.	02:03
Dr_willis	right click on it see if theres a mount menu item?	02:03
* Dr_willis tries the obvious		02:03
Dr_willis	this is an Exteral USB NTFS drive? or what exactly?	02:03
wry	had everything but canpnical and sourcecode selected. I was faffin about w it a few days ago though and think I've tried all of 'em	02:04
nosrednaekim	wry: and you have the mirror set to the main us one?	02:05
killer_	Dr_willis: nosrednaekim: ok. I chmod a+rw /dev/sda1 and and dolphin still won't open it	02:05
wry	Nosre: trying it again now... seems to have frozen @ 30%... I'll give it some time	02:05
nosrednaekim	killer_: still with the uid1000 error?	02:06
killer_	Dr_willis: this is NTFS on main system drive, I have dual boot so I can access mywindows mobile OS phone programs	02:06
killer_	nosrednaekim: yep.. still complaining that I"m uid 1000	02:06
nosrednaekim	killer_: heh... try this "kdesudo dolphin"	02:07
nosrednaekim	and mount it from there	02:07
Dr_willis	killer_, Hmm.. every time ive ever installed Ubuntu. it always puts a entry in the fstab for the IDE/Sata disks. Could be that IS the issue.. hal isent set to auto-mount those drives. only external/removeable ones.	02:07
nosrednaekim	but as a warning, you won't be able to read it anywhere else..	02:07
killer_	nosrednaekim: I get a DCOP error from kdesudo dolpin	02:08
Dr_willis	for my needs the proper way to mount my ntfs filesystems is to use the ntfs-3g tool and put the proper entrys in fstab.	02:08
nosrednaekim	killer_: that shouldn't be fatal.	02:08
alwrwr2003	hi guys	02:09
killer_	nosrednaekim: aah.. so it wasn't fatal, after clicking OK.. I eventually get a dolphin window	02:09
alwrwr2003	the compiz worked fine with me !	02:09
alwrwr2003	but how can i use the 3D Box ?	02:09
killer_	nosrednaekim: Dr_willis: and as root I have a clickable accessable /dev/sda1	02:09
nosrednaekim	alwrwr2003: install the compizconfig-settings-manager	02:09
killer_	so the drive can indeed be mounted if I want to be root	02:10
alwrwr2003	installed but i didn't know how to use it	02:10
killer_	which is the last thing I'm going to tell a newbie to do on the phone	02:10
nosrednaekim	alwrwr2003: "ccsm"	02:10
nosrednaekim	killer_: yeah. I think that issue was just fixed in hardy	02:10
wubba	Could someone help me with setting up a wireless USB ethernet card on ubuntu?	02:11
nosrednaekim	!hardware \| wubba	02:11
KkValetekK	hello all	02:11
ubotu	wubba: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection	02:11
alwrwr2003	it's worked but what is the shortcut for the 3D box?	02:11
gauss_	What is some good software for burning an avi to a DVD so it can be played on a DVD player?	02:11
Dr_willis	killer_, so as root the device automounted>?	02:11
KkValetekK	can anybody tell me how do I put a game in fullscreen? (not wine)	02:11
nosrednaekim	alwrwr2003: ctrl+alt+arrow keys	02:12
nosrednaekim	!dvd	02:12
ubotu	For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs	02:12
killer_	dr_willis yep.. kdesudo dolphin works as expected	02:12
gauss_	ubotu: I for some ungodly reason can't get k9copy to work on my system :(	02:12
Dr_willis	killer_, it could be the device was mounted beforhand BUT when it got mounted by 'root' and that is why the user couldent access it.	02:12
alwrwr2003	i see 2 compiz tray icons is that normal?	02:12
gauss_	well then.. lol	02:12
Dr_willis	prolem with this problem is that i cant get it to even do it on my system so i cant test it. :)	02:13
nosrednaekim	Dr_willis: very probable...	02:13
killer_	Dr_willis: "df" showed no mount	02:13
nosrednaekim	oh.....	02:13
Dr_willis	killer_, is there some reason you dont mount the filesystems with ntfs-3g at boot time?	02:14
Dr_willis	If the user wants full access to the ntfs disks - thats how to do it,.	02:14
killer_	Dr_willis: nope.. I think it should be read-only mounted at install w/o asking the user on dual boot machines	02:14
Dr_willis	I thought the installer asked where to mount the ntfs/windows disks TO.. if you left the mount point blank. I thouhg it dident mount them at all.	02:15
Dr_willis	This may be a diff in the alternaive and Live Cd installer	02:15
nosrednaekim	killer_: FYI... you can right click on the device in dolphin->actions->open as root...	02:15
Dr_willis	nosrednaekim, thats scary	02:15
Dr_willis	:)	02:15
nosrednaekim	of course... it'll prompt you for a password	02:16
killer_	nosrednaekim: I don't mind open as root if read-only	02:16
alwrwr2003	is it normal to see 2 compiz tray icons?	02:16
alwrwr2003	how can i cancel 1	02:16
nosrednaekim	alwrwr2003: did the cube ork?	02:16
killer_	nope I take out "mount as user" and still can't mount	02:16
alwrwr2003	well i can use it from inside but i don't know how to use it from outside	02:17
nosrednaekim	thats a setting in the settings manager somewhere	02:17
gauss_	Does anyone know of any DVD burning software that will burn an avi to player-ready DVD?	02:18
Dr_willis	gauss_, they exist.. but they are not 1 click and its done - sort of things...	02:18
Dr_willis	tovid is one.. it also has a guy	02:18
Dr_willis	gui :) as an option	02:19
Dr_willis	but it dident work properly for me the other day	02:19
alwrwr2003	ok i see 2 compiz icons tray is this normal?	02:19
BluesKaj	gauss_, check the dvdplayer for the divx logo, it may not be necessary to recode the avi files, most are divx or xvid now.	02:19
gauss_	sweet, thanks	02:20
BluesKaj	I recently discovered that fact about my elcheapo koss player	02:20
Dr_willis	k3b has some neat features that i have never used.. :)	02:20
Dr_willis	BluesKaj, been wanting to get one of those also.. but too cheap	02:20
Arwen	I've got a problem with my virtual consoles. When I switch to them, I just get a flashing cursor.	02:21
BluesKaj	100$ Dr_willis	02:21
Dr_willis	whats an emovixdvd anyway :) k3b has that. never seen that befor	02:21
Dr_willis	BluesKaj, that will make like 6 the # of dvd players i got around here. :)	02:21
Dr_willis	waiting for the dvd plyares that can also work as UpNP clients. :)	02:22
killer_	Dr_willis: nosrednaekim: brb.. gonna do a relogin to see if it fixes the administrator mode	02:22
nosrednaekim	Arwen: which ones? f1-6?	02:22
Arwen	yeah	02:22
nosrednaekim	Arwen: you using ATI?	02:23
Arwen	yes	02:23
nosrednaekim	yeah... its a problem with ATI's...	02:23
BluesKaj	gauss_, make sure you choose the dvd data option when burning avi files due to the fact that K3B balks at avi files in general , silly but true	02:23
Arwen	nosrednaekim, is there a remedy?	02:23
nosrednaekim	Arwen: don't remember... probably. search google for it	02:24
Dr_willis	Hmm - I only burn dvd data.. :) never really noticed the other features till now	02:24
BluesKaj	Dr_willis, yeah, we're on our 4th dvdp , but so far this one has outlasted the others : )	02:25
Dr_willis	BluesKaj, we bought like 5 2 yrs ago for $20 a pop.. of course they wouldent play a large # of comercial dvds sadly	02:27
Dr_willis	Cool. K3b can do emovix - making a live cd that plays video files.. heh	02:27
killer_	nosrednaekim: ok a relogin fixed administrator mode, and I now have dolphin access to read-only /dev/sda1	02:28
nosrednaekim	even without being root?	02:28
killer_	I think that's because I did an OEM install, and created my user afterwords	02:28
nosrednaekim	possibly..	02:29
nonewmsgs	how do you run a .bat file with wine	02:29
killer_	nosrednaekim: I configured the /media/sda1 mount in system settings-> disk&filesystems, then just open dolphin as a regular user	02:29
killer_	also set it to mount at boot time	02:29
nosrednaekim	killer_: cool :D... so everything is good now?	02:30
wry	nosrednaekim: I tried the main srver, it stalled at 30%. I wen away and came back. Seemed to be done but still no results for my searches. Trying the Australian server now and it's stopped at 30% again	02:32
nosrednaekim	wry: thats weird.	02:32
Arwen	gah, I need my consokles	02:33
nosrednaekim	Arwen: it has something to do with the fglrx driver and the framebuffer driver	02:33
Arwen	not using fglrx	02:33
wry	nosrednaekim: your tellin me! You know where I can get another apt frontend like syaptic or the like?	02:33
killer_	nosrednaekim: well	02:34
ticat85	hey, can anyone give me a bit of advice on installing from tar files using Kinstaller?	02:34
nosrednaekim	wry: well, if "apt-get update" doesn't work from the commandline, nothing will.	02:34
killer_	nosrednaekim: I'd like to know how to administrate hald, but that can wait for another day I suppose	02:34
killer_	nosrednaekim: how bout "sudo apt-get update"	02:35
nosrednaekim	killer_: heh, yeah... that'd probably get ver complicated :D	02:35
Arwen	nosrednaekim, I'm not using fglrx, so do you have any other idea what might be wrong?	02:35
nosrednaekim	killer_: come to think of it.... yes, that would work a bit better...	02:35
BluesKaj	ticat85, kinstaller?	02:35
ticat85	yes, Kinstaller	02:35
ticat85	running into some ./configure error	02:36
nosrednaekim	Arwen: oh! hmmm. no I don't, though I think I heard tell of that happening with the OSS driver too. again, search google	02:36
Arwen	yeah, I did, only hearing about fglrx...	02:37
BluesKaj	ticat85, some tar files don't have the configure or even make files	02:37
ticat85	:\| humm, well I'm all new to this - installed Kubuntu all of 3 days ago - I wasn't aware of this	02:38
ticat85	any ideas for installing some files for Sopcast or Gamefu?	02:38
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roberts	how do i get HD Intel Audio working on feisty 7.04?	02:39
BluesKaj	ticat85, which app are you trying to install ?	02:39
nosrednaekim	!sound \| roberts	02:39
ubotu	roberts: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	02:39
wry	nosrednaekim: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.	02:40
ticat85	BluesKaj, I'm trying to install the Sopcast (P2P Tv client) and Gamefu (multi-emulator frontend)	02:40
wry	nosrednaekim: that'd be the problem, yaeh?	02:40
nosrednaekim	wry: thats very odd! switch to the US columbia mirror since I know that one works(i use it)	02:40
arrrghhh	i can't figure out how to get ls to list everything page by page - i read the man file for ls, there's nothing in there that mentions sectioning out results...	02:40
roberts	right, the sound system is running	02:40
nosrednaekim	arrrghhh: you may want du..	02:41
wry	nosrednaekim: in the command line I assume?	02:41
ticat85	BluesKaj, or more specifically: Gamefu-0.2.beta1-Source.tar.gz, sp-auth.tgz, libstdcpp5.tgz	02:41
nosrednaekim	wry: no... in adept	02:41
arrrghhh	well in windows, dir /p did the job.	02:41
BluesKaj	sorry ticat85 , dunnno anything about game apps, and not familiar with Sopcast	02:41
arrrghhh	nosrednaekim: du is for file sizes and essentially the footprint of that directory on your hdd... am i wrong?	02:42
ticat85	BluesKaj, well how about this: how would you normally go about installing any program from a downloaded TAR file without the configure file included	02:42
nosrednaekim	arrrghhh: no... but it does preint them out kinda by page (DIR by DIR)	02:43
arrrghhh	der you have to pipe it... ls ~ more	02:43
arrrghhh	well not tilde but the straight line (for pipe)	02:43
Dr_willis	ls \| more	02:43
arrrghhh	ja... that's the one. someone in the linux channel suggested it.	02:43
Dr_willis	Bash Basics :)	02:44
BluesKaj	ticat85, right click on the tar files and choose properties , click the permissions tab and check 'is executable' box before trying to install those files	02:44
arrrghhh	yea, i just figured it would be a switch from the man ls, like ls -p or something	02:44
arrrghhh	kinda counter-intuitive if you ask me, having to pipe it but whatever that works.	02:44
Dr_willis	arrrghhh, i find it VERY VERY intuituve	02:45
ticat85	BluesKaj, what would this accomplish in the long run? sorry I just want to know the basics... as I said, new to this	02:45
wry	nosrednaekim: still stalling at 30%	02:45
BluesKaj	ticat85, I've run into that prob myself and have yet to find the answer	02:45
Dr_willis	expecting every program to have its own pageing feture is counter-productive	02:45
nosrednaekim	wry: which one is it stalling on?	02:45
nosrednaekim	universe?security?	02:46
BluesKaj	ticat85, there are ppl here who know	02:46
wry	nosrednaekim: am I to assume that I've just got a dodgey distro?	02:46
arrrghhh	Dr_willis: i see what you're saying, i am not used to piping output on the cli... new concept to me. old habits die hard.	02:46
nosrednaekim	wry: probably not.	02:46
ticat85	BluesKaj, well if anyone does know :) please chime in anytime now! anyone? please?:(	02:46
nosrednaekim	wry: probably just a bad sources.list.... are you running gutsy?	02:46
Dr_willis	arrrghhh, try alias lm = 'ls \| more'	02:46
BluesKaj	nosrednaekim, how does one install tar files that don't contain configure , make make install	02:46
Dr_willis	hmm thats not ruight.. lets see	02:47
nosrednaekim	BluesKaj: ouch.... with some fancy gcc stuff, but i'm not a C person.	02:47
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wry	nosrednaekim: cc.columbia.edu	02:47
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arrrghhh	i think i can remember to pipe the output... i just need to get used to the bash.	02:47
flaccid	BluesKaj: reading the doco provided with the program	02:47
nosrednaekim	wry: and...	02:47
flaccid	or in the archive eg. README, INSTALL	02:47
Dr_willis	arrrghhh, try alias lm='ls \| more'	02:47
Dr_willis	arrrghhh, heh heh i got all sorts of little scripts/aliases for tasks like that	02:48
wry	nosrednaekim: stoppin at 30%	02:48
IAmWill	anyone know how to get "MCP51 High Definition Audio" working??	02:48
BluesKaj	flaccid, that's a pretty glib answer there areno install readmes with some of the files	02:48
arrrghhh	yea, i've written some bash scripts to like remove all .torrent files from my desktop etc, but the whole piping output is a new concept to me.	02:48
flaccid	BluesKaj: yeah thats the fault of the packager/maintainer. what are you trying to install?	02:48
IAmWill	ARTS is running, but no sound	02:48
Dr_willis	arrrghhh, linux is like 'layers of legos' :) rember that.	02:48
Dr_willis	Not Like an Onion.. :P	02:48
Dragnslcr	IAmWill- are you using digital output?	02:49
arrrghhh	Dr_willis: certainly... i do like having choices, i just wish they included that little tid-bit in the ls man page...	02:49
nosrednaekim	wry: what the line its stalling on? pate it here	02:49
IAmWill	Dragnslcr, its a laptop	02:49
flaccid	there might be a binary installer in there BluesKaj who knows	02:49
=== Arwen is now known as anon32
Dr_willis	arrrghhh, its not an ls feature, or issue at all. :)	02:49
Dragnslcr	IAmWill- check all of the channels in alsamixer and kmix, make sure none of them are muted	02:49
Dr_willis	arrrghhh, should they also mention, sort, and sed, and awk, and tail, and........ :)	02:50
BluesKaj	ticat85 is trying to install install Gamefu-0.2.beta1-Source.tar.gz, sp-auth.tgz, libstdcpp5.tgz	02:50
ticat85	BluesKaj, the Gamefu tar file includes a: CMakeLists.txt, Copying, Design, Install, Readme files	02:50
Dr_willis	arrrghhh, Joys of Linux FUNdaMENTALS :)	02:50
ticat85	blueskaj, as well as a Makefile.am	02:50
nosrednaekim	oh! cmake!	02:50
flaccid	ticat85: what is that and where did you get it from	02:50
nosrednaekim	ticat85: read that "Install" file	02:50
flaccid	ticat85: as advised read the install and readme files	02:51
ticat85	flaccid, Gamefu-0.2.beta1-source.tar.gz	02:51
arrrghhh	ok, ls lists files right? wouldn't you thinhk the ls man file would include directions on how to list files line-by-line or in a manner that you can flip through them? i can't find the words to describe that...	02:51
ticat85	flaccid, will do... ill remain on the channel :)	02:51
ticat85	i also have another question though involving mythTV	02:51
wry	nosrednaekim: there aint no line. Just says 30% down the bottom. Nothing at all written above it	02:51
IAmWill	Dragnslcr, nothing is muted	02:51
nosrednaekim	wry: this is on the command line?	02:51
wry	nosrednaekim: in adept	02:52
flaccid	!ask \| ticat85	02:52
ubotu	ticat85: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	02:52
nosrednaekim	wry: ah... kill adept and run "sudo apt-get update" from the command line. and paste the line it stalls on	02:52
BluesKaj	well, i was trying to install FF 3 beta 2 , but it has no configure. make , or makeinstall files the readmes aren't at all helpfull...no instructins	02:52
ticat85	flaccid, the install file seems to be saying something i was missing :(	02:52
flaccid	cool ticat85. yeah INSTALL and README are pretty standard for instructions :)	02:53
ticat85	haha, alright - in MythTV i am having trouble with my videocard	02:53
ticat85	err	02:53
ticat85	capture card	02:53
* flaccid dislikes no instructions		02:53
ticat85	averTV model, fairly old	02:53
flaccid	!capture	02:53
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about capture - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:53
wry	nosrednaekim: k.. hang on	02:53
anon32	anyone know how I can make Konversation stop flashing my taskbar whenever someone says anything?	02:53
flaccid	i think there is a support list somwhere	02:53
BluesKaj	ticat85, you might consider TVtime	02:54
flaccid	anon32: i think its in settings \| configure notifications	02:54
ticat85	BluesKaj, tried it - it only recognizes my USB webcam	02:54
flaccid	!mythtv \| ticat85	02:54
ubotu	ticat85: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV	02:54
BluesKaj	ok ticat85	02:55
nosrednaekim	anon32: in settings->configure konversation->behavior->general	02:55
flaccid	ticat85: only thing else to check is google. your card is probably not supported perhaps	02:55
flaccid	also check dmesg and logs to see how the system treats the device	02:55
BluesKaj	mythtv is a bit daunting for ppl new to linux	02:55
flaccid	hopefully mythtv is easier now that they have fixed the package	02:55
ticat85	flaccid / BluesKaj, sigh I hate learning curves, kk ill check it out	02:55
anon32	nosrednaekim, not seeing it	02:55
ticat85	it recognizes the device as dev/video1, my webcam as dev/video0	02:56
Dragnslcr	anon32- it might be under Configure Notifications	02:56
ticat85	so why TVtime only sees dev/video0 is beyond me	02:56
anon32	Dragnslcr, yeah, but according to that, all my notifications are off	02:56
ticat85	BluesKaj, TVtime will not let me change my video source in the menu :(	02:57
flaccid	anon32: must be somewhere else sorry. not sure where	02:57
Dragnslcr	anon32- I would guess that it's Configure Notifications -> New message arrived on a channel	02:58
BluesKaj	composite 1 -2 etc ?	02:58
anon32	shrug ah well, now back to my framebuffer. Hmm.	02:58
flaccid	see man tvtime to see how to specify a different device maybe it has a switch	02:58
nosrednaekim	anon32: its in there right whee I said..	02:58
flaccid	i think its tvtime --device=/dev/video1	02:59
flaccid	there might be a tvtime-configure binary as well	02:59
ticat85	flaccid, ill try that right now	02:59
ticat85	flaccid, it wooooork! success!	03:00
ticat85	now only if my grammar worked :(	03:00
flaccid	hehe sweet	03:01
ticat85	flaccid, now why doesn't it work with mythTV?	03:01
flaccid	not sure, i aint used that beast in ages	03:01
BluesKaj	beast is a true term for it	03:02
ticat85	flaccid, is there a way to permanently keep dev/video1 as the device for TVtime	03:02
nosrednaekim	'night everyone	03:02
BluesKaj	night mike	03:02
ticat85	I restarted the program and its back as dev/video0 is the source	03:02
flaccid	ticat85: yeah via configuration iirc	03:03
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ticat85	flaccid, say configawhatnow?	03:03
flaccid	um it uses xml config files iirc. but i can't remember how to use them. google says lots..	03:04
ticat85	flaccid, is it a file I can find via dolphin?	03:04
flaccid	ticat85: have a look in ~/.tvtime	03:04
ticat85	flaccid, and that would be...? in the root somewhere	03:05
ticat85	again, new, normally I'd be "PROGRAM FILES" but alas, no windows	03:05
flaccid	um ~ stands for home	03:06
flaccid	its a real location. not sure how to get to address bar in dolphin sorry..	03:06
ticat85	hmm	03:07
ticat85	says "no such file or directory"	03:07
flaccid	were you running tvtime under root or normal user	03:07
ticat85	tvtime.xml?	03:07
flaccid	yes	03:07
ticat85	found it :)	03:07
flaccid	i'd say so. still you probably havnt googled yet	03:07
ticat85	nadda, been looking for the file... now that I have it	03:08
flaccid	well i got a tvtuner inbuilt to this notebook so i'll install tvtime	03:08
ticat85	open with Kate or Kwrite?	03:09
flaccid	any text editor. not there is a bug and i just got it! ~/.local/share/application	03:09
flaccid	oops	03:09
flaccid	i mean look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612500	03:09
flaccid	might need to do a sudo chown `whoami`:`whoami` ~/.tvtime	03:10
jaylc185	Hey I installed kdevelop 3.5 but I don't know how to make it, i want to program in perl and C/C++, can anyone help?	03:10
ticat85	damn, i needed to edit as root	03:11
ticat85	this root thing is really annoying :(	03:11
Dr_willis	ticat85, untill it saves your backside	03:11
flaccid	incorrect. read the above thread which makes the ownership of the config under root when it shouldn't	03:11
flaccid	once you know how to use root/sudo and when not to use it etc. there is no frustration	03:11
ticat85	i know sudo bash :)	03:12
Dr_willis	If the file is not in your home dir.. you need to edit/change it as root.. :)	03:12
flaccid	thats not a command you should run	03:12
Dr_willis	sytem wide chabnges neesd root.	03:12
ticat85	really? but its so handy	03:12
flaccid	well i wouldn't say system wide, i'd say files that require root perms	03:12
Dr_willis	using root when you dont need to or making root shells like that and foreggint them.. can cause problems	03:12
flaccid	ticat85: its not handy. please read !root	03:12
dthacker	sudo is good. sudo will save your posterior	03:12
Vorian	sudo thank you dthacker	03:13
Vorian	:)	03:13
ticat85	why can't I just be root all the time? like administrator	03:13
dthacker	:0	03:13
flaccid	ticat85: because that would be insecure	03:13
Vorian	ticat85, why would you want or need to do that?	03:13
ardchoille	ticat85: Because one mistake and you system is gone	03:13
ardchoille	!sudo	03:14
ubotu	sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	03:14
ticat85	hmm I'll take your multi-words for it :\|	03:14
flaccid	an application has a bug that removes files that should be protected for example	03:14
Vorian	ticat85, :) good choice	03:14
ticat85	flaccid, I've changed: <option name="V4LDevice" value="/dev/video1"/>	03:14
ticat85	but now when TVtime comes up i get a grainy green screen	03:14
flaccid	think about why windows was considered totally insecure prior to NT and firewall. there was only 1 user which could do anything.	03:14
dthacker	ticat85: I suspect most of us like sudo because we've done something silly and costly as root.	03:14
Dr_willis	one TYPO with rm -rf as root = gone system :)	03:15
ticat85	flaccid, nvm now it's okay :\|	03:15
ardchoille	Right	03:15
flaccid	ticat85: here is some good info/guide: http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/usage.html	03:16
ticat85	flaccid, ty I will definatly book mark that as of now :)	03:16
flaccid	cool	03:17
ticat85	flaccid, now I'm working on my previous install from tar problem	03:17
flaccid	tvtime does rock besides that stupid bug	03:17
flaccid	well im going to find an antennae so i can see something in tvtime heh	03:17
ticat85	does anyone have good/bad things to say about Fiire?	03:17
BluesKaj	yeah, tvtime is much easier to setup in the later distros , dapper was terrible ...much better now	03:18
BluesKaj	well, sacktime for me ...lots to do tomorrow , no more procrastination ,it'll be Christmas Eve...Merry Christmas to all & to all a good night :)	03:20
Dr_willis	I gotta go shopping! egads!	03:22
ticat85	Dr_willis, well you better hope you have Monday off then :\|	03:22
Dr_willis	i got the week off. :)	03:22
ticat85	same here, only week of vacation this year though :(	03:23
Dr_willis	we may have a down week Jan 11-18th.	03:23
ticat85	wtf the install file says i need a "Autoconf" program to make my configure file :(	03:23
Dr_willis	But Nooo.. they couldnet have it right after our vacation week. :)	03:23
flaccid	!info autoconf	03:24
ubotu	autoconf: automatic configure script builder. In component main, is optional. Version 2.61-4 (gutsy), package size 437 kB, installed size 1676 kB	03:24
ticat85	blah :( why can't things just be uniform when installing files, like using adapt	03:24
flaccid	ticat85: install the package build-essential	03:24
flaccid	!compile \| ticat85	03:24
ubotu	ticat85: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)	03:24
Dr_willis	If you want to use source.. you need to learn to use source.. :)	03:24
flaccid	ticat85: because people make programs differently. you are compiling source code.	03:24
Dr_willis	compiling from source is a whole lot better then it used to be at least.	03:25
ticat85	can't it come pre-complied in a nice little bowed package?	03:25
Dr_willis	what are you even compiling?	03:25
BenjaminD	hello. when i install a tar ball, in what folder should i keep the extracted files?	03:25
flaccid	ticat85: yes it can. is it available, did you check?	03:25
Dr_willis	BenjaminD, depends on what it is.	03:25
ticat85	nah, these were the files given on the websites	03:25
BenjaminD	beryl	03:25
BenjaminD	but as a general rule?	03:26
ticat85	i think they are windows ports made by someone	03:26
Dr_willis	BenjaminD, why not just install compiz?	03:26
flaccid	ticat85: yeah so the devs have not packaged for debian/ubuntu	03:26
Dr_willis	!compiz	03:26
ubotu	Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	03:26
ticat85	No autoconf in my adept installer :(!	03:26
Dr_willis	BenjaminD, a properly done source archive wll uncompress to its own directory.	03:26
BenjaminD	compiz put a white border around my menu's	03:26
flaccid	!repos \| ticat85	03:26
ubotu	ticat85: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	03:26
flaccid	!adept \| ticat85	03:27
Dr_willis	you may want to make a 'workspace' dir to put them in.	03:27
ubotu	ticat85: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto	03:27
BenjaminD	/workspace/	03:27
Dr_willis	BenjaminD, try some other compiz themes perhaps. From what i gather beryl is dead.	03:27
flaccid	ticat85: need to install the relevant repos first. please read the links	03:27
BenjaminD	it is	03:27
BenjaminD	but i still like it	03:27
ticat85	kk i will... so much reading to do :(	03:27
flaccid	yeah half of nix is reading sometimes	03:27
makuseru	hi, in pidgin, when im a direcrly connected to people, and they send me pictures, or i send pictures, part of the picture will display then the rest will just be black. what causes this and how can i fix it?	03:28
Dr_willis	other half is rembering where ya saw somthing - so you can go back and reread it.	03:28
flaccid	makuseru: not sure try #pidgin or #gaim and or submit a bug via !bugs	03:28
ticat85	in the adept manager what is the "build-essentials" package called?	03:28
Dr_willis	'build-essential'	03:28
ticat85	nvm	03:28
ticat85	found it	03:28
flaccid	yeah i guess i just bookmark hectic in opera, but i fail to categorise the bookmarks - at least you can search em in opera quickly	03:29
ticat85	overlooked it doh	03:29
flaccid	hehe	03:29
Dr_willis	sudo apt-get install build-essential	03:29
Dr_willis	:)	03:29
makuseru	flaccid: there all dead in there	03:29
flaccid	i like to encourage desktop users to use the graphical package manager hahah	03:29
ticat85	can you tell im new? :( sigh how long till I get good at Linux?	03:29
flaccid	makuseru: might have to try over a period of days	03:29
flaccid	ticat85: not very long you are already on the path	03:29
Dr_willis	!training	03:29
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about training - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:29
ardchoille	ticat85: That depends on how much you read and how fast you learn :)	03:29
il12	can anyone recommend a good .iso burner for Linux?	03:30
Dr_willis	Bummer	03:30
Dr_willis	il12, k3b can do that.	03:30
flaccid	!info k3b \| il12	03:30
ubotu	il12: k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.3-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 4916 kB, installed size 9436 kB	03:30
ticat85	well... i have a week to read	03:30
ticat85	so no one has comments on Fiire products?	03:30
il12	Whoot, ty.	03:30
ticat85	i was thinking about getting the FiireEngine :S	03:30
Dr_willis	Fiire? never heard of them	03:30
flaccid	never heard of fiire	03:30
ticat85	Linux MCE pre-packaged systems	03:30
Schuenemann	it burns if you touch it	03:30
ticat85	they have a neat VESA mounted pc thing	03:30
flaccid	mce ?	03:30
* Dr_willis is lost..		03:31
ticat85	Media Centre Edition... its a port of Kubuntu	03:31
flaccid	sounds commercial	03:31
Dr_willis	I just use MythTV	03:31
Schuenemann	you have a capture card?	03:31
Dr_willis	Hauppage PVR 150	03:31
ticat85	www.linuxmce.com	03:31
Arwen	wtf, I get a blue square when trying to watch any video in Gutsy	03:31
flaccid	i just use my 24inch monitor with HD heh	03:31
Arwen	and no, there's no compiz going on	03:31
ticat85	www.fiire.com	03:32
Schuenemann	Arwen, any error in konsole?	03:32
Arwen	no	03:32
ticat85	flaccid, so now I have the build-essentials what did that solve?	03:32
Schuenemann	maybe the video is a blue square?	03:32
Arwen	god, 7.10 is a whole box of nightmares	03:32
Dr_willis	build-essential installs the core essential packages needed to compile stuff	03:32
flaccid	ticat85: well if you read any of the articles we told you to read, it gives you the build suite (including autoconf)	03:33
ticat85	flaccid, readddding :( fine	03:33
flaccid	hehe	03:33
flaccid	in your case autoconf was obviously a dep to compile the program. ubuntu by default does not come with build-essential installed which has the compilers and so forth - people dont need them by default	03:34
flaccid	!find mce	03:34
ubotu	Found: mce-dev, mcelog, tinymce, tinymce-doc	03:34
flaccid	!info mce-dev	03:34
ubotu	mce-dev: development files for mce. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.6 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 196 kB	03:34
flaccid	!info mce	03:34
ubotu	Package mce does not exist in gutsy	03:34
flaccid	sorry.	03:34
ticat85	nice... autoconf is on its way installing	03:36
ticat85	flaccid, and everyone, thanks for your help by the way	03:36
ticat85	it's great having some random strangers to ask questions to	03:36
il12	yayyy I am on my way to burning Kubuntu onto a disc then I get to install it on my external	03:36
flaccid	sweet as ticat85	03:36
* flaccid has to install windows laterr cringes		03:37
* dthacker sympathizes with flaccid		03:37
il12	Flaccid: my cousin installed Ubuntu onto his internal HDD (of which he has three, two main ones), and accidentally wiped out his windows OS so now he has to go and get a new CD for it.	03:38
flaccid	ouchy	03:38
flaccid	i just need it for ableton live	03:38
ticat85	flaccid, so ive done autoconf... but when i type autoconf into the shell, i cant create files... do i need to be root for this?	03:38
flaccid	ticat85: why would you type the command? you just follow the instructions in the INSTALL and the scripts will use autoconf..	03:40
ticat85	flaccid, i have followed the instructions... but i still have no ./configure	03:41
ticat85	can i send you the install file?	03:41
flaccid	ticat85: you can pastebin the install file	03:42
Dr_willis	typical installing from source setup..	03:42
Dr_willis	tar xzvf whatever.tar.gz	03:42
Dr_willis	cd whateverdiritmade	03:42
Dr_willis	./configure	03:42
flaccid	like the de facto standard for source is configure, make, make install but thats just the de facto method, it could be anything as per the INSTALL	03:42
ticat85	OoOoOoOo....	03:43
ticat85	kk ill try that	03:43
Dr_willis	Then after ./configure does it thing. You do 'make' and 'make install'	03:43
Dr_willis	let me guess.. ya dident cd to the dir?	03:43
ticat85	no im in the dir	03:43
Dr_willis	:)	03:43
ticat85	it's unzipped	03:43
ticat85	still can't ./configure	03:43
Dr_willis	what is this you are trying to compile anyway? got a URL?	03:43
ticat85	Gamefu-0.2	03:44
ticat85	http://sourceforge.net/projects/gamefu/	03:44
navetz	how do i get vmware server	03:44
ticat85	and ill have to do this for an N64 emulator whatever that one is for linux	03:44
Dr_willis	!vmwarew	03:45
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about vmwarew - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:45
Dr_willis	!vmware	03:45
ubotu	VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers	03:45
Dr_willis	download the packages frm the vmware web site. get a free serial # from them.. install :)	03:45
flaccid	!find gamefu	03:45
ubotu	Package/file gamefu does not exist in gutsy	03:45
ticat85	it's called Kamefu... comes with feisty	03:45
ticat85	but its an older version	03:46
flaccid	where is the pastebin of the INSTALL	03:46
ticat85	doesn't allow me to configure my joystick	03:46
flaccid	ticat85: there appears to be a debian package already http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Gamefu?content=36846&PHPSESSID=aea0c494598a28c66cc6ad7d584f79d9	03:46
ticat85	woot :)	03:47
ticat85	humm	03:47
flaccid	if thats the same thing you want, you don't have to build anything just install the .deb via adept or apt	03:47
ticat85	it's still the Kamefu	03:47
flaccid	well i don't know about the project ticat85	03:47
ticat85	ive tried that one... i wanted the newer version :(	03:47
Jennifer	hi	03:47
flaccid	its always a good idea to google to see if there is packages available to avoid building	03:47
flaccid	ticat85: ok	03:48
BenjaminD	when i am installing a tarball.. what does C compiler cannot create executable mean?	03:48
Dr_willis	Hmm. No ./configure for gamefu kde version... odd...	03:48
ticat85	Dr_willis: see it's madness!	03:48
ticat85	no Sopcast on KDE-APPS.org :(	03:48
Jennifer	my sound works periodically...perhaps something to do with my sound driver..anybody ever experience this?	03:48
Dr_willis	the SDL version has a ./configure	03:49
flaccid	ticat85: its not madness. show me the doco and i'lll advise what should be done..	03:49
Dr_willis	flaccid, it has a .kdevelop file	03:49
ticat85	flaccid, do i just drag and drop it?	03:49
flaccid	no	03:49
* flaccid waits		03:49
il12	Is there a way to export my settings and accounts in Kopete?	03:49
ticat85	how do i share it then?	03:49
flaccid	!pastebin \| ticat85	03:49
ubotu	ticat85: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	03:49
flaccid	il12: i don't believe so, however you could copy the profile/config in ~/.kde	03:50
Jennifer	has anybody experienced periodic sound disappearance (or appearance) for HP laptops?	03:51
ticat85	flaccid, k im just pasting it now	03:51
il12	flaccid: alright, thank you but I'll pass. Way too new and with my luck I'd screw it up. I'll just reenter all my info. lol. it'll help me get more used to these distros I suppose.	03:51
ticat85	flaccid, pasted under ticat85	03:52
flaccid	il12: no worries	03:52
ticat85	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49455/	03:52
flaccid	ticat85: provide the URL	03:52
flaccid	thanks	03:52
il12	must dash, gonna install on my external HDD.	03:52
Dr_willis	http://sourceforge.net/projects/gamefu/	03:53
flaccid	ticat85: ok it has the standard SF install guide basically	03:53
ticat85	:( man i suck at this	03:53
flaccid	ticat85: so when you goto the directory you untarred it, and run sh ./configure what do you get ?	03:53
ticat85	"can't open ./configure"	03:54
ticat85	is what i get	03:54
Dr_willis	There is no configure script in the kde version is why	03:54
Dr_willis	./ means 'run the program in the current dir'	03:55
flaccid	ok now pastebin the output from (stay in the directory): ls -lahR; file ./configure	03:55
flaccid	guys can you provide a link to this archive and i'll look at it too	03:55
Dr_willis	there is a CMakeLists.txt script. and a gamefu.kdevelop i see	03:55
Dr_willis	http://sourceforge.net/projects/gamefu/	03:56
Dr_willis	thats the homepage. :) looking at the archive now.	03:56
Dr_willis	I have the sdl version compilng	03:56
flaccid	but which actual file	03:56
flaccid	ticat85: please provide a link to the archive you are actually trying	03:56
firecrotch	I'm running Kubuntu with compiz-fusion, I'm trying to figure out where the file that stores the setting for the desktop background is	03:57
ticat85	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49456/	03:57
feffer	Jennifer: sound is usually on or off. Can you offer more detail?	03:57
Dr_willis	http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=126940&package_id=213045&release_id=466728	03:57
Dr_willis	Hmm that link pasted badly..	03:57
ticat85	that's the html link though	03:57
Dr_willis	http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gamefu/Gamefu-0.2.beta1-Source.tar.bz2?modtime=1164549031&big_mirror=0	03:57
Dr_willis	there we go.	03:57
ticat85	flaccid, look at Dr_willis's post	03:57
ticat85	Gamefu-0.2.beta1-Source.tar.gz	03:58
flaccid	ok ticat85 goto the dir and just do make; sudo make install	03:58
flaccid	see if that does it, maybe no configure required	03:58
flaccid	technically you should contact the package maintainer and ask them why the INSTALL is incorrect :(	03:58
ticat85	flaccid, make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.	03:59
flaccid	right. Dr_willis you are compiling it atm?	03:59
ticat85	flaccid, do i need to include a dir for my install file?	03:59
Dr_willis	flaccid, trying to....	03:59
Dr_willis	flaccid, but not seeing how. and the docs are lacking.	04:00
Dr_willis	the sdl version fails to compile also.	04:00
Dr_willis	So far,., im thinking this is a Work In progress :)	04:00
ticat85	noooo, but blah... :(	04:00
flaccid	im thinking so far it sux :)	04:00
flaccid	i got it d/l too and it doesn't make sense. this is not infrequent however	04:01
ticat85	www.sopcast.com/download	04:01
Dr_willis	they got a CMakeLists.txt file.. whatever thats for,, :)	04:02
ticat85	can you use rpm files in KDE to install programs?	04:03
Dr_willis	Makefile.am - Hmm... whats that .am for?	04:03
flaccid	!alien \| ticat85	04:03
ubotu	ticat85: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)	04:03
flaccid	its a makefile can't remember exactly	04:03
ticat85	flaccid, so no :( too dangerous... just like sudo bash :)	04:04
flaccid	ticat85: ok i found it this is beta. you need the latest stable which is Kamefu 0.something	04:04
flaccid	ticat85: not necessarily. its dependent on many things. a lot of alien can be fine.	04:04
Dr_willis	night all...	04:05
flaccid	!find kamefu	04:05
ubotu	Found: kamefu, kamefu-data, libkamefu-dev, libkamefu0	04:05
flaccid	!info kamefu	04:05
ubotu	kamefu: KDE All Machine Emulator Frontend for Unix - binary files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 78 kB, installed size 296 kB	04:05
ticat85	ya... i'll install Kamefu	04:05
flaccid	ticat85: install that package. can't really help with the rest, its beta and in dev etc.	04:05
ticat85	only problem with that is i can't configure my joystick and assign buttons using it	04:05
flaccid	ah well. how do you know this other version will do that?	04:06
ticat85	i don't i was trying to find out :P	04:06
flaccid	fair enough	04:06
ticat85	oh well :( atleast i got TVtime working	04:07
flaccid	cool	04:07
ticat85	no sound though....	04:07
unix_infidel	can anyone tell me how to setup fonts?	04:08
unix_infidel	without a gui tool?	04:08
unix_infidel	on gtk apps.	04:08
ticat85	flaccid, thanks again for your help...im going to go rest my brain :( ttyl	04:09
flaccid	um there is a binary to install fonts dynamically. can't remember the name of it hmm	04:09
ticat85	g'night all :) merry xmas and such	04:09
flaccid	!fonts	04:10
ubotu	Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer	04:10
flaccid	maybe it says in there	04:10
flaccid	brb	04:10
jdlizard	can anyone help me with jinzora, i try to access jinzora and it says invalid style liquid	04:11
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kristjan_	can I download 8.04 iso with kde4?	04:12
loronen	how do I change the keyboard settings to dvorak in kubuntu?	04:14
zylmak	hello	04:15
default	hi all. has anyone else had problems with Kubuntu burning programs, specifically recognizing blank discs as "empty discs"? I cannot burn- it just says "please insert cd-r/rw"	04:16
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default	i think its something messed up in my hdparm.conf, but i don't think i should go about messing with it just yet	04:18
unix_infidel	anyone on my fonts question?	04:18
default	unix_infidel: what was your question?	04:19
unix_infidel	default: how do i set them up so they dont look so ugly.	04:19
unix_infidel	especially on gtk apps.	04:19
unix_infidel	i've installed msttcorefonts.	04:19
Sylphid	anyone know how i can fix a flash drive so it is usable again..... i dont care about the data currently on it	04:19
default	unix_infidel: i've got the perfect tutorial for you... hang on	04:19
il12	ok, I have started the installer from the LiveCD of Kubuntu and I want to install it on my external HDD.	04:20
il12	but I'm not -exactly- sure how to do it. I've gotten the installer setup to the part where you select the partitioning configs.	04:20
unix_infidel	default: great!	04:20
default	unix_infidel: this was written for Hoary, but it works on all versions of Kubuntu, and your fonts (including GTK) will look much more like M$ "Cleartype" fonts, which i think look rather nice. ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976	04:21
il12	what do I need to do to makesure that it goes to the external HDD but does NOT wipe it first?	04:21
default	unix_infidel: read closely and follow each step, and your fonts will be beautiful	04:22
unix_infidel	default: wouldnt it just be better to install ms tt fonts?	04:22
loronen	how to switch to dvorak keyboard format?	04:22
default	unix_infidel: you'll have the fonts, but you won't have the rendering (sub-pixel hinting and smoothing effects). Trust me, you will notice the difference	04:23
default	unix_infidel: the tutorial actually has you install those fonts	04:23
cumulus	Why can my screen resolution be only 640x400, and 800x600 and not bigger while it was way bigger under windows?	04:24
Sylphid	loronen: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=12580.0;wap2	04:25
loronen	sylphid: many thanks	04:25
Sylphid	cumulus: what kind of video card do you have	04:26
cumulus	It is onboard video	04:26
cumulus	Is there a place I can get you the full name of it?	04:26
Sylphid	cumulus: ati or nvidia	04:26
cumulus	It's some Intel Graphic manager	04:26
cumulus	Neither, it's on-board, no cards	04:26
il12	/leave	04:27
Sylphid	cumulus: what shows up using lspci	04:27
flaccid	cumulus: lscpi or lshw	04:28
Sylphid	lspci	04:28
cumulus	00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)	04:28
flaccid	soz Sylphid	04:28
flaccid	i think you need that extra intel driver thing?	04:28
cumulus	Both of these I think	04:29
cumulus	00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)	04:29
cumulus	00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)	04:29
cumulus	Probably	04:29
flaccid	that i915 resolution or something	04:29
cumulus	I would find it on their website?	04:29
flaccid	looking now	04:29
flaccid	this might be it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-0e3051713171cb5d1bf49dc2dc7bea24eb9ed83e . but can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please	04:30
flaccid	also xrandr -q	04:30
unix_infidel	hmm, too bad firefox doesnt let you pick your DPI anymore	04:31
flaccid	!info xserver-xorg-video-intel	04:32
ubotu	xserver-xorg-video-intel: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.1.1-0ubuntu9 (gutsy), package size 173 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 lpia m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)	04:32
zylmak	geex i just deleted the trash ho do i putit back im in dolphin	04:32
flaccid	cumulus: do a sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	04:32
cumulus	http://pastebin.com/d30e8d879	04:33
cumulus	cumulus@cumulus-laptop:~$ xrandr -q	04:33
cumulus	Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 800 x 600, maximum 800 x 600	04:33
cumulus	default connected 800x600+0+0 0mm x 0mm	04:33
cumulus	800x600 61.0*	04:33
cumulus	640x480 60.0	04:33
flaccid	cumulus: do the command above and when asked select the intel driver	04:34
flaccid	!pastebin \| cumulus	04:34
cumulus	Ok	04:34
ubotu	cumulus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	04:34
flaccid	so basically we install and change to intel driver then should have the other resolutions available	04:34
cumulus	I didn,t think this was large, sorry	04:34
cumulus	I pastebinned the xorg.conf if you still need it	04:34
flaccid	above 3 lines apparently is flood	04:35
flaccid	anyway see how you go	04:35
il12	ok, question. on Kopete, from the LiveCD while I am letting the installer resize a partition on my external HDD to install Kubuntu onto it, it crashes whenever I try and sign into MSN.	04:36
cumulus	I did apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel; - and it asks me if I want to install a pack, or keep my version	04:36
flaccid	um install i think	04:36
il12	can I install using the LiveCD? I know it won't be there when I shutdown...	04:37
flaccid	yeah thats what the install shortcut is for on the desktop w/ livecd	04:37
il12	I mean install something like Pidgin	04:37
flaccid	yeah you can install, but its not persistant, it will be gone on reboot	04:38
flaccid	its basically loading it into ram	04:38
il12	I'm already letting the resizing partition part of the Kubuntu installer take forever on my external HDD........... hasn't even moved off of 0%	04:38
il12	Ok. ty	04:38
flaccid	hmm i guess there could be a problem then. is there anything going crazy cpu wise in top or ksysguard?	04:39
il12	brb	04:39
cumulus	It asks me the video bus now	04:39
cumulus	There,s PCI:0:2:0 already written, and I can edit it	04:40
flaccid	just enter on that	04:41
flaccid	enter on anything you don't know that needs to be changed. the only thing you probably need to change is driver to "intel"	04:41
flaccid	and desired resolution if it asks	04:42
cumulus	Should it use framebuffer?	04:42
cumulus	Ok	04:42
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flaccid	um press enter. yes or no is ok, probably needs to be on or off for intel i can't recall	04:43
lnxkde	guys I am having a problem with firefox, It is slow as hell, and frezees to much when tinking ) I dont get this when I use kubuntu 386) I am using Kubuntu amd64	04:43
nide1571	low	04:44
nide1571	hello	04:44
flaccid	howdy	04:45
cumulus	Ok, setup completed	04:46
cumulus	Restart X?	04:47
flaccid	ok now goto kdm and restart X from menu or do a sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart from a tty once logged out	04:47
cumulus	tty is ctrl+alt+F1?	04:48
flaccid	yep	04:48
ardchoille	cumulus: yes	04:48
cumulus	So, I log off my session, press these keys and do the command you said?	04:49
ardchoille	cumulus: There are 6, ctrl+alt+f1 for tty1, ctrl+alt+f2 for tty2, etc	04:49
cumulus	Oh ok	04:49
flaccid	cumulus: yeah and if kdm doesn't come back, do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then run startx manual and see the problem in the output	04:49
cumulus	I'm scared ^	04:49
cumulus	^^*	04:49
cumulus	You scare the noob out of me with all those commands	04:49
ardchoille	hehe	04:50
flaccid	hehe. its funny when you help a friend remotely fixing their video and you do this and ask them 'is that better'	04:50
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flaccid	via ssh..	04:50
cumulus	Hahaha	04:50
ardchoille	flaccid: lol	04:50
cumulus	Ok, I,ll take a breath and try	04:50
cumulus	it	04:50
flaccid	the reaction is usually. thats perfect or its gone all weird! try again heh	04:51
cumulus	Thank you verry much, hope it'll work =)	04:51
cumulus	Or "It's all black now"? =)	04:51
flaccid	yeah me too, i hope so. still you should of been able to get more res with the vesa driver i would of thought, but maybe im wrong	04:51
cumulus	Well, it asked me to select resolutions	04:51
flaccid	yeah so do what i mentioned above	04:51
cumulus	But they were pre-selected	04:52
Sylphid	anyone know how i can fix a flash drive so it is usable again..... i dont care about the data currently on it	04:52
flaccid	Sylphid: qtpared	04:52
flaccid	or fdisk via cli	04:52
Solifugus	Has anyone experienced any problems upgrading to gutsy (via adept?)	04:52
flaccid	qtparted i mean sorry	04:52
Gidean	Hello all...	04:53
cumulus	flaccid: you<re a genious =D	04:54
Gidean	This may sound rediculous but is it possible to contract a computer virus from image files?	04:54
flaccid	serious?	04:54
cumulus	The only thing is that when I go in a tty, my screen simply closes up	04:54
flaccid	Gidean: depends what you did with the image files	04:54
flaccid	simply closes up?	04:55
cumulus	But there was an option in the programm that handles the session to restar X, forgot the program name	04:55
flaccid	cumulus: sorry mate um i think its ctrl+alt+f7 to go back to tty for X	04:55
flaccid	restarting kdm restarts X basically	04:55
cumulus	Yeah, I used ctrl+alt+F7 to come back	04:55
Gidean	I downloaded a .zip file of osx backgrouds for a gnome box from some wierd website.	04:55
cumulus	Because F1 was just closing the screen	04:55
Dragnslcr	Gidean- if there's a bug in the program that's rendering the image, yes it's possible	04:55
flaccid	ok so you all good cumulus ?	04:55
flaccid	cumulus: not sure what you mean, but sounds like its fixed	04:56
cumulus	Now yep, except that the tty don,t work for me. Do I need them in my life^	04:56
Gidean	suddenly these white vector lines began appearing on the screen	04:56
Gidean	and the panel is all messed up	04:56
flaccid	cumulus: um no you don't usually need them. sometimes it can be a pain on some systems to go between which is weird. sometimes on old systems have to hold down the ctrl+alt+whatever a bit	04:56
cumulus	Ah, that<s possible	04:57
Dragnslcr	Gidean- could just be a bug in X and/or KDE. Tried restarting X?	04:57
Sylphid	flaccid: qtparted isnt recognizing the device any other ideas?	04:57
Gidean	thought it might be a bug in X so I rebooted, no fix	04:58
cumulus	Hm, nope, it really closes my screen =) Even the power light turns off	04:58
flaccid	Sylphid: check dmesg and sudo cat /var/log/syslog and also sudo fdisk -l	04:58
Dragnslcr	Gidean- I dunno, unless a driver got corrupted somehow	04:58
flaccid	cumulus: im not sure what you mean or the problem. perhaps a reboot will fix, see if you can just login from kdm and be normal..	04:58
Gidean	I ran dpkg to reconfigure the display...no dice	04:59
cumulus	What happens is. If I type ctrl+alt+F1, the screen closes. When I hit ctrl+alt+F7, the graphics come back, it is just that	04:59
cumulus	And damnit I think my keyboard got configured as a US keyboard now in the X configuration, but I will look in the options for that	05:00
Sylphid	flaccid: it shows the device connected in dmesg and syslog but not fdisk -l	05:00
Gidean	what other driver could have been corrupted?	05:00
flaccid	cumulus: thats how its meant to be? X runs on a tty which is separate. im not if there is a problem	05:00
sat_	after installing kubuntu, i chose kde as my default desktop manager. How can I change it to Gnome?	05:01
flaccid	Sylphid: maybe its broken or something. even if its unformatted the disk should appear in fdisk -l via usb mass storage	05:01
flaccid	sat_: install the package ubuntu-desktop	05:01
fildo	flaccid: hi !	05:02
flaccid	heya fildo	05:02
Sylphid	ight thanks flaccid	05:02
flaccid	np	05:02
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fildo	!flaccid	05:02
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about flaccid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	05:02
fildo	aww	05:02
maduser	hey	05:02
_Angelus_	morning	05:02
maduser	don't make ubutu work harder then he allready has to	05:02
sat_	flaccid: i already had ubuntu. i installed kubuntu. i've both now. the default one is kde now. i wanna change it.	05:02
maduser	download the gnome desktop	05:03
maduser	through adept	05:03
_Angelus_	i made a fresh kubuntu install, and its giving me some weard dcopserver error when ever i try to press the "Administrator" button in system settings, and its not giving me root privilidges	05:03
_Angelus_	any help?	05:03
* Gidean thinks kde is WAY better		05:03
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Gidean	couldn't resist :)	05:04
cumulus	I'm not sure of how to explain that. When I go on the tty7 (X), it works fine, I have my screen and everything. But when I go on tty1 to 6, I don't get a console, I get a black screen	05:04
arrrghhh	what's the quickest dirtiest way to find which version of ubuntu is on this livecd? the iso i downloaded said 7.10, but after installing it on my destkop adept is doing a dist-upgrade to 7.10... i don't get it.	05:04
Dragnslcr	arrrghhh- there was a bug in Adept when 7.10 was released	05:05
arrrghhh	i'm running the same livecd on my laptop now, and all i'm finding is the version of kde it's using, nowhere the version of ubuntu	05:05
arrrghhh	oh yea?	05:05
Dragnslcr	It keeps saying a new version is available even though there isn't	05:05
ardchoille	arrrghhh: open a terminal and type: lsb_release -a	05:05
maduser	I had a problem when i did the dist upgrade	05:05
arrrghhh	thanks, beautiful.	05:05
flaccid	sat_: you simply select the default from kdm or gdm and it should save that default when you choose it from the menu	05:06
maduser	so i got a cd and did a freash install	05:06
arrrghhh	so i should stop the dist-upgrade?	05:06
maduser	all i'm saing is that it did not work for me	05:06
maduser	I had to do a new install	05:06
flaccid	cumulus: i understand. thats weird how your init tab is doing that. hmm i guess you could google it	05:06
arrrghhh	i just did a new install...	05:06
cumulus	Bah, I can live without tty for now, when it'll be urgent I will check =0	05:07
cumulus	=)*	05:07
flaccid	cool	05:07
cumulus	Um, out of curiosity, where did you find the informations for the driver? Because I think I need one for my sound too	05:08
flaccid	um google and the ubuntu wiki <-- the two places to search and check with first before irc :)	05:08
flaccid	i also had knowledge that intel is like this heh	05:08
sat_	flaccid: right. I chose kdm. i want to change it to gdm. I don't know how I can get that window. I've been looking for it for 2 hours	05:08
cumulus	Alright, I'll check there in the future, save you some time =)	05:09
flaccid	sat_: you could ask #ubuntu, i can't remember how you are meant to switch between the two.	05:09
sat_	flaccid: sure. thanks.	05:09
flaccid	sat_: did you google or search the wiki on this?	05:09
sat_	flaccid: no. i'll try that.	05:10
flaccid	lots of results on that as well eg. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95275	05:10
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flaccid	sat_: i just did a search like http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=change+kdm+to+gdm+ubuntu&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8	05:10
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wubba	I have a wireless USB ethernet that won't connect to the network. It shows that it is enabled. I checked the USB settings and Linux can see the correct card.	05:11
sat_	flaccid: thanks. appreciate it.	05:11
flaccid	np	05:11
Sylphid	cumulus: the tty's will be back to normal after a reboot	05:11
wubba	Any ideas?	05:11
flaccid	!wireless \| wubba	05:12
ubotu	wubba: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	05:12
flaccid	did you check the support of the card, wubba does it come up in ifconfig at least?	05:12
flaccid	(or ifconfig -a)	05:12
cumulus	Sylphid: Okie, gracias	05:12
cumulus	The wiki is http://wiki.kubuntu.com ?	05:13
wubba	THe card is supported - I didn't do an ifconfig - but I checked the NETWORK SETTINGS - it enabled it but it isn't pulling an IP.	05:13
flaccid	!wiki	05:13
ubotu	http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.	05:13
wubba	let me try the ifconfig	05:13
flaccid	or http://wiki.kubuntu.org	05:13
cumulus	This wiki is more about the team who did kubuntu or I misslooked?	05:14
flaccid	everything is there. you just search basically	05:15
cumulus	Alright	05:15
flaccid	its a topic based system thats collab	05:15
sat_	flaccid: i could change it to gdm. thanks.	05:18
flaccid	np	05:18
unix_infidel	hmm, can someone tell me why i cant press backspace and go back in firefox?	05:19
flaccid	i wish i could unix_infidel	05:19
unix_infidel	lol	05:20
unix_infidel	i just spent the last oh....2 hours configuring linux.	05:20
unix_infidel	and i'm not even half way done :-)	05:20
flaccid	ouchy	05:20
unix_infidel	but i'm going from scratch with ubuntu-server so i guess i deserve it.	05:20
flaccid	ouchy choice for server hehe	05:21
flaccid	well i can't talk i still got one here, but i guess its for testing. too lazy to change it to freebsd heh	05:23
unix_infidel	is there anyway to generate an xmodmap?	05:24
cumulus	Quick question: How can I access my other hard-drive partitions under KDE?	05:25
flaccid	!mount \| cumulus	05:26
ubotu	cumulus: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter	05:26
flaccid	oops wrong one	05:26
flaccid	!fstab \| cumulus	05:26
ubotu	cumulus: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions	05:26
flaccid	!ntfs \| cumulus	05:26
ubotu	cumulus: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE	05:26
Breetai	I messed something up with compiz i.e. no window decorations and no keyboard input. Does anyone know how to delete all of the compiz settings out of a user account	05:28
cumulus	It's already mounted	05:28
maduser	I don't think an unistall will do....	05:28
flaccid	goto like storage media in konqueror or dolphin, cumulus	05:29
cumulus	Ok, because on gnome it's on the desktop, so I was wondering what the location was for kde =)	05:29
cumulus	Gracias mister	05:29
cumulus	Thanks for everything. I think I,ve got my quota for today =)	05:29
flaccid	cumulus: you can enable that in kde as well by going to configure desktop	05:29
flaccid	np cumulus	05:30
cumulus	Happy holidays	05:30
cumulus	Oh, I'll do that right away	05:30
flaccid	cia0	05:31
ganjamaniac	dn3d needs SLI	05:32
kyled185	does anyone know what package supplies SDL-opengl libs?	05:38
biovore	I SDL uses that standard opengl stuff..	05:38
biovore	I think..	05:38
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kyled185	biovore, so I assume opengl support would be in the libsdl package	05:39
biovore	libglut3-dev mesa-common-dev freeglut3-dev glutg3-dev	05:40
Greenery	!teamspeak	05:40
ubotu	Teamspeak is the proprietry VoIP software see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TeamSpeak For a open source alternative consider using Mumble http://mumble.sourceforge.net/	05:40
biovore	I don't SDL does any actual OpenGL rendering.. Has some calls like init and setup window.. but alot of it is just calls to standard GL libs.	05:40
biovore	(I don't think)	05:41
kyled185	I think you're right, I just wanted to use to to supplement opengl with mice, audio, etc	05:41
biovore	http://lazyfoo.net/SDL_tutorials/index.php <-- some good tutorials on the subject	05:42
kyled185	biovore, that's actually what I'm using, but thanks	05:42
biovore	ok cool.. there setup for linux on that is correct.. they all worked here..	05:43
ganjamaniac	!seen mr. meowagi	05:43
mani213	i have a program with my adept it says its already running but its not	05:49
mani213	so i cant even fetch updates	05:50
mani213	what should i do	05:50
ubu	i think my cd/dvd burner has gone wacko: dmesg= "ide: failed opcode was: unknown" & "hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit"	05:50
ubu	that can't be good, can it?	05:50
flaccid	!adeptxfix \| mani213	05:50
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptxfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	05:50
flaccid	!adeptfix	05:50
ubotu	If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »	05:50
flaccid	maybe that	05:51
mani213	type that in konsole?	05:51
ubu	also: "hdc: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x40 { LastFailedSense=0x04 }"	05:51
mani213	!adeptxfix	05:51
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptxfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	05:51
ubu	mani213: you probably have an instance of adept running in the background... check in Ksysguard	05:52
mani213	so i just look for adapt	05:54
mani213	and kill it?	05:54
evjunior09	Can anyone help me with Syncing my iPod Touch to Amarok??	05:55
mani213	still not working	05:56
mani213	adept is acting weird	05:56
maduser	did you do sudo dpkg --configure -a ?	05:56
mani213	no what does that do?	05:57
evjunior09	Hello?	05:57
maduser	thats the fix	05:57
maduser	run it in the terminal	05:57
mani213	after i type that	05:58
mani213	do i type in y for yes?	05:58
maduser	yeah	05:58
mani213	thanks	05:58
Mister_Hand	Hi There, when you use a voip like Kphone, do you have to register somewhere for SIP service?	05:58
mani213	i would have never figured that	05:58
maduser	you could have googled it	05:58
Mister_Hand	I hear all this "free" phone call stuff, but don't know anything about it	05:59
maduser	is an easy fix	05:59
maduser	the only "free" phone calls i have ever heard of by means of phreaking	06:00
Mister_Hand	maduser, i see	06:00
Mister_Hand	maduser, it was my understanding you could make free calls over voip	06:01
ardchoille	Is it possible to get google toolbar in kubuntu?	06:02
maduser	download firefox with google tool bar for linux?	06:03
ardchoille	So I have to use firefix and a google toolbar extension?	06:04
maduser	dunno	06:04
maduser	mabe its an add on?	06:04
maduser	like firefox ftp	06:05
homercycles	I'm having problems where Kubuntu keeps removing a DNS server I add as my primary DNS every hour or so. Whenever the internet seemingly fails, I go into System Settings, Network Settings, click Administrator Mode, click on Domain Name System, and enter it again and press Apply. Does anybody know how to force a DNS setting in Kubuntu 7.10?	06:06
dthacker	homercycles: are you using DHCP?	06:07
arrrghhh	wow... so i guess the nvidia 7600gt isn't officially supported?	06:09
homercycles	I quite possible am, from my ADSL router.	06:09
homercycles	Guess I should go and tell it to dish out the DNS for me?	06:09
homercycles	it's a Billion whose internal DNS is slow as sh*te so if I specified my ISP DNS in Windows, it fixed it, but Linux won't remember a manually-added DNS, it seems	06:09
arrrghhh	restricted drivers didn't work, and the 'official' installer has now broken my xorg completely... ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't even get me back to a console that's readable. it's all the same illegible character.	06:09
mani213	when i download a driver off net how do i install it open it with ark?	06:10
dthacker	homercycles: if your DHCP lease expires, then your /etc/resolv.conf (where your DNS settings live) will be overwritten.	06:10
arrrghhh	does anyone else have the 7600gt? it's skipped in the 'supported drivers' section of nvidia's website...	06:10
arrrghhh	oh but there it is in the newest software update... so why did it break everything? shouldn't deleting the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file fix it at least enough to get back into a session?	06:12
arrrghhh	seems the unbreakable X has been broken by my newest gutsy install....	06:12
mani213	how do i update the drivers?	06:17
ardchoille	mani213: which drivers?	06:19
arrrghhh	so i'm getting a "screens found, but none have a usable configuration" error.	06:19
mani213	like graphics card mother board etc	06:20
ardchoille	mani213: If you installed the drivers via the repos, then updating the system will update everything. If you installed the drivers from source or 3rd party packages, it's up to you to update them.	06:21
mani213	so how do i update it with linux do i use adept?	06:21
ardchoille	mani213: Did you install from the repos?	06:21
mani213	repos?	06:21
mani213	you mean sites?	06:21
ardchoille	adept? Synaptic? apt-get?	06:22
ardchoille	mani213: How did you install?	06:22
mani213	i didnt install drivers yet	06:22
mani213	but i wana so what should i do search ati in adept??	06:22
ardchoille	!ati \| mani213	06:22
ubotu	mani213: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	06:22
arrrghhh	ok, i did exactly what the "BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia" instructed me to and it didn't work. i did what the nvidia website told me to do, and it BROKE the so-called unbreakable X.	06:27
flaccid	when was x deemed unbreakbable lol	06:28
dsmith_	lol	06:28
flaccid	arrrghhh: do you know how to go to a tty?	06:28
ardchoille	arrrghhh: which version of Kubuntu are you using?	06:28
dsmith_	dunno, I have broke it plenty of times	06:28
arrrghhh	7.10	06:28
arrrghhh	flaccid: tty... no?	06:29
flaccid	arrrghhh: ok check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see the problem of X/kdm not starting	06:29
mrtimbo	hi	06:29
arrrghhh	flaccid: yes i have... "screens found, but none have a usuable configuration"	06:29
arrrghhh	and "failed to load the NVIDIA knernel module"	06:30
flaccid	arrrghhh: ok did you do a kernel upgrade recently? if so you need to reinstall the restricted driver via restricted-manager	06:31
arrrghhh	flaccid: i only have a cli, so i can do that via apt-get right?	06:32
flaccid	yeah	06:32
flaccid	um	06:32
arrrghhh	and this is a fresh install of kubuntu 7.10...	06:32
flaccid	purge and then reinstall any nvidia packages would be the easiest way in this case	06:32
arrrghhh	ok	06:33
flaccid	well you might be better to change xorg.conf to use the vesa driver to get into X then use restictd-manager to fix it up and reinstall the restricted driver	06:33
flaccid	and this is nvidia's fault unfortunately	06:33
arrrghhh	yea they support linux... but not very well.	06:34
dsmith_	bad nvidia bad!	06:34
dsmith_	i rather have bad nvidia over horrible ati	06:35
flaccid	this is true. both are BLOBs iirc	06:35
dsmith_	blobs?	06:36
arrrghhh	ja	06:37
arrrghhh	i'll try the restricted driver way, but last time that didn't work either.	06:37
flaccid	binary large objects	06:37
flaccid	yeah but we need to find out why it didn't work...	06:37
flaccid	otherwise you could be beating your head forever against the wall	06:37
flaccid	if it doesn't find the kernel mod then it needs to be reinstalled	06:38
arrrghhh	i don't think i have the restricted driver manager installed	06:38
ardchoille	arrrghhh: You installed from the Kubuntu 7.10 ISO ?	06:39
ardchoille	arrrghhh: System Settings > Advanced tab > Restricted Drivers	06:39
flaccid	ardchoille: i guess thats a kcmdshell thing and the restricted-manager-kde gives the qt frontend. do you know how to call what you just said by a command	06:40
arrrghhh	ardchoille: i don't have that	06:41
arrrghhh	yea, i installed from a 7.10 kubuntu iso	06:41
arrrghhh	it's still on this laptop	06:41
mani213	why do they gata make it so hard to get ati drivers	06:41
unix_infidel	anyone using mesk?	06:41
flaccid	mani213: licensing etc.	06:42
mani213	i tried pasted the comands the site says doesnt work	06:42
unix_infidel	aka the dapper deb?	06:42
flaccid	arrrghhh: if you are sure you don't have it in system settings, install the package restricted-manager-kde . but it should be there	06:42
unix_infidel	i'm essentialyl looking for a foobar2000 clone?	06:42
mrtimbo	what is kubuntu's serial key?	06:42
mrtimbo	jk I was asked this today	06:43
ardchoille	flaccid: kcmshell restricted-manager-kde	06:43
Lynoure	mrtimbo: that's exactly what it is, joke artwork...	06:43
arrrghhh	flaccid: i found the packages that needed to be installed... i purged them earlier.	06:44
ardchoille	arrrghhh: try this from a terminal: kdesu kcmshell restricted-manager-kde	06:44
flaccid	thank you	06:45
ardchoille	flaccid: kcmshell --list	06:46
ardchoille	:)	06:46
flaccid	dang	06:46
flaccid	nice	06:46
ardchoille	flaccid: fyi, kcontrol is gone in kde4, system settings is the default.	06:46
flaccid	ardchoille: unfortunately for that kcmshell command you need restricted-manager-kde package	06:47
ubuntu	hello	06:47
flaccid	ah ok cool thanks ardchoille	06:47
ardchoille	flaccid: Isn't that installed by default in 7.10?	06:47
ubuntu	can some one help?	06:47
arrrghhh	flaccid: ok it said computer needs restarter... i went to the menu and hit restart.	06:47
ardchoille	ubuntu: help with what?	06:47
arrrghhh	ubuntu: just ask my friend	06:47
flaccid	i believe it when you said the other day ardchoille but it doesn't appear so. need that package. i didn't think it would be duplicated	06:47
flaccid	cool arrrghhh	06:48
ubuntu	i had a windows error	06:48
flaccid	its weird how they didn't make it default considering this is the number 1 problem	06:48
ardchoille	flaccid: iirc, restricted manager is installed with Gutsy	06:48
ubuntu	wehn i start my computer i get "<windows root>\system32\hal.dll is missing or corrupt" and its effecting Ubuntu	06:49
ubuntu	on my system	06:49
arrrghhh	and it kicked me back to a cli login... no gui. it broke X just like the official nvidia installer did as well.	06:49
flaccid	!info restricted-manager	06:49
ubotu	restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers - GNOME frontend. In component restricted, is optional. Version 0.33.1 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 316 kB	06:49
arrrghhh	same error, screens found but none with a usable configuration.	06:49
flaccid	is optional..	06:49
ardchoille	ubuntu: Ubuntu? You should be in #ubuntu but that sounds like a Windows problem	06:50
flaccid	arrrghhh: um yes, but did the nv module error go away.. ?	06:50
flaccid	arrrghhh: do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg now then try	06:50
flaccid	otherwise paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to look at	06:51
ubuntu	how can i get my system to run at least one operating system without removing anyfiles?	06:51
ardchoille	flaccid: Well, the restricted manager always gets installed with the system here, 11 computers.	06:51
flaccid	ardchoille: didn't on mine and the package is optional. when i removed it i lost it.	06:51
flaccid	ubuntu: what is your actual problem. the answer to your question is have a bootable OS installed.	06:52
ubuntu	never mind	06:52
flaccid	fair enough	06:52
ubuntu	i'll just run off the CD's	06:52
flaccid	whatever that means :o	06:52
flaccid	i wish i could understand peoples vague questions :)	06:53
arrrghhh	after the dpkg-reconfigure and a reboot, i get a "cannot display this configuration" on my monitor...	06:54
flaccid	arrrghhh: [17:51] <flaccid> otherwise paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to look at	06:55
flaccid	pastebin that is	06:55
david_J	What packages do I need to install to get konqueror to automount cdrom device?	06:55
arrrghhh	it didn't ask me any questions.	06:55
ardchoille	flaccid: I was just about tho repeat that :)	06:55
david_J	I am running fluxbox cause I have a weak computer..	06:55
flaccid	hehe	06:55
arrrghhh	hrm i do'	06:55
david_J	I like konqueror	06:55
flaccid	david_J: none	06:55
arrrghhh	sorry, didn't mean to hit enter.	06:56
david_J	really	06:56
flaccid	yeah hal looks after that stuff	06:56
david_J	okay I had to re put in the cdrom	06:57
david_J	thanks	06:57
david_J	people in ubuntu were kinda rude... Sorry I couldn't run gnome	06:57
flaccid	cool np	06:58
flaccid	flaccid is going to be pretty drunk soon. ah well heh	06:58
biovore	a drunk flaccid is a happy flaccid	07:01
biovore	:-P	07:01
flaccid	lol, this is true, well usually	07:01
flaccid	ok time for some air. bbs.	07:01
arrrghhh	i got it working... restricted drivers worked 2nd time around. thanks guys.	07:08
flaccid	np	07:10
evjunior09	Anyone know how to install Gtkpod?	07:12
flaccid	!find gtkpod	07:12
ubotu	Found: gtkpod, gtkpod-aac	07:12
flaccid	!info gtkpod	07:12
ubotu	gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.10-2 (gutsy), package size 695 kB, installed size 2620 kB	07:12
evjunior09	is there a Sudo?	07:12
flaccid	evjunior09: enable universe repos and install via adept or any pkg manager	07:12
flaccid	there is sudo and kdesuo etc.	07:12
flaccid	!root \| evjunior09	07:13
ubotu	evjunior09: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	07:13
evjunior09	Does anyone know if Gtkpod works with iPod Touch	07:20
execut	hello	07:20
maduser	hi	07:21
evjunior09	Can the iPod Touch work with gtkpod?	07:22
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Linux_Galore	evjunior09: yes, but i found amarok is easier	07:24
Linux_Galore	libgpod was updated recently to support the new iPODS	07:25
Linux_Galore	both amarok and gtkpod use the same lib	07:25
michi	!german	07:26
ubotu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	07:26
SudoKing	hi, how do you find your current KDE version? :P	07:28
Lynoure	SudoKing: any KDE app, Help -> About KDE	07:29
flaccid	SudoKing: right click the kmenu and goto help \| about	07:29
execut	!turkish	07:29
ubotu	Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.	07:29
SudoKing	mmk	07:29
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Fatih_Akdeniz	hi	07:42
ubuntu	nakkel	08:32
ubuntu	?	08:32
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jezze\|	miten pystyn rekisteröityy?!	08:41
jezze\|	kiitoss	08:41
yesdup	Merry Christmas to one and all and thanks to everyone who helped give us Kubuntu it ROCKS!!	08:42
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liz	Hi?	08:53
ardchoille	hi liz	08:54
liz	wow was beginning to think it was head in here	08:54
Stalk3r	Anyone know of software to convert a quicktime MP4 file to something I can burn onto a DVD for television viewing?	08:54
liz	dead*	08:54
jussi01	liz: its christmas eve,what do you expect?	08:54
Fatih_Akdeniz	hi	08:55
liz	honestly I had no idea what to expect	08:55
Stalk3r	Oh yeah, Merry Holidays, everyone!	08:55
jussi01	!fi \| jezze\|	08:55
ubotu	jezze\|: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi	08:55
jussi01	Stalk3r: vlc does it I think.	08:56
Stalk3r	jussi01: thanks	08:56
Stalk3r	I'll try that	08:56
liz	I can't seem to get ndiswrapper1.5 to install	08:57
liz	grrr	08:58
jussi01	liz: whats the issue?	08:58
ardchoille	!info ndiswrapper	08:58
ubotu	Package ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy	08:58
fredo	salut	08:58
fredo	qua	08:58
fredo	stion	08:58
jussi01	!fr \| fredo	08:58
ubotu	fredo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	08:58
jussi01	liz: is it for broadcom?	08:59
fredo	merci	08:59
jussi01	:)	08:59
liz	for Atheros AR5007EG	08:59
jussi01	liz: is there not native support for atheros?	08:59
liz	Running Kubuntu 64bit	08:59
liz	not for the 5007	08:59
liz	5006 yes	09:00
jussi01	liz: ouch	09:00
liz	works beautifully on my Asus F3KA-A1	09:00
ardchoille	!search ndiswrapper	09:00
ubotu	Found: ndiswrapper	09:00
jussi01	!ndiswrapper	09:00
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	09:00
liz	not so much on my Asus F3KA-X2	09:00
liz	Trying to get the wireless in Kubuntu working before my sister (Liz) leaves for arizona later today	09:03
liz	I'm Isaac btw, sorry I didn't mention it earlyier	09:03
liz	unfortunately my Linux skills leave something to be desired	09:05
liz	to take it from the top:	09:06
liz	I'm working from this guide	09:06
liz	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread?t=512828	09:06
tjeerd	Hello, I have a (beginners) question: What is the usual directory where shared files for all users on the same machine are stored?	09:06
TimS	Is there a gui bootsplash changer?	09:07
liz	I downloading the latest version by pasting: wget http://wifix.sourceforge.net/software.php?title=ndiswrapper into the console	09:07
tjeerd	(For instance: music, video's, pictures etc available to all users)	09:07
liz	extracted the archive: tar xvf ndiswrapper-1.5.tar.gz	09:09
liz	ran this command: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential	09:10
flaccid	tjeerd: there is no such thing	09:12
faolan	okay, how usable is KDE4 in the Kubuntu repos?	09:12
flaccid	usable enough	09:12
liz	changed to the ndiswrapper directory: cd ndiswrapper-1.5	09:12
liz	ran: sudo make uninstall	09:13
jussi01	liz: ndiswrapper 1.9 is in the repos...	09:13
faolan	then i guess i'll give it a shot	09:13
liz	ok	09:13
jussi01	liz: the broadcom instuctions tell you how to get it	09:14
giuseppe	hi, how can I mount NFS partition?	09:14
jussi01	!broadcom	09:14
ubotu	Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx	09:14
faolan	broadcom is a dissapointment. i mean how hard can it be to make hardware that is standards compatible?	09:15
jussi01	!ot \| faolan	09:15
ubotu	faolan: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	09:15
flaccid	its never a matter of difficulty. open and standard is easier :) well usually	09:15
liz	investigating -- I thought the latest version was 1.51....	09:15
flaccid	well it relates to kubuntu definately	09:15
tjeerd	OK, thanks for the info flaccid. Is there a standard that people use for sharing files locally?	09:16
hrm	hallo.....	09:16
flaccid	!samba \| tjeerd	09:16
ubotu	tjeerd: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT	09:16
flaccid	de facto standard yes	09:16
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flaccid	local on lan i assume you mean	09:16
Stalk3r	Wow, vlc look slike kaka	09:17
Stalk3r	looks like*	09:17
tjeerd	But I wanna share files on a local kubuntu machine, not between Linux and Windows.	09:18
flaccid	!perms \| tjeerd	09:18
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about perms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	09:18
flaccid	hmm	09:18
flaccid	!permissions	09:19
faolan	never was a fan of VLC there's some program like Cocaine or Kaffeine that I like to use that works good for video	09:19
ubotu	An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview	09:19
jussi01	tjeerd: just make the folder and files accessable by all	09:19
faolan	for audio it's Amarok	09:19
Xcell	lol cociane	09:19
flaccid	tjeerd: so depending on the source, its file permissions that let other users access files	09:19
pag	giuseppe, are you trying to mount NFS (network file share) or NTFS ("windows filesystem") ?	09:19
flaccid	!nfs \| giuseppe	09:19
ubotu	giuseppe: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.	09:19
Stalk3r	Kaffeine and KMplayer view the file just fine but Vlc doesn't and I need to convert it to another format in order to burn it to DVD for the TV	09:20
tjeerd	OK, than I'll just create a user "share" that has the shared files with access 777	09:20
Stalk3r	and of course I use Amarok for audio. ;)	09:20
faolan	Xcell: it's been a long day. 9 hours in a wal-mart kills brain cells	09:21
Xcell	lol	09:21
jussi01	Stalk3r: try avidemux	09:21
Xcell	I know	09:21
Stalk3r	jussi01: ok, thanks, I'll try that	09:22
Xcell	merry xmas	09:22
ardchoille	hi Xcell	09:22
Xcell	hi ardchoille	09:22
Xcell	happy holiday ardchoille	09:22
hrm	FLZ HELP ME.. Need configuration SQUID & DANSGUARDIAN	09:22
hrm	FLZ HELP ME.. Need configuration SQUID & DANSGUARDIAN	09:23
ardchoille	Xcell: Right back at ya :)	09:23
flaccid	hrm: lots on google for that. don't repeat	09:23
Xcell	gotta run. talk later.	09:23
faolan	well i'm off to bed. gotta snooze.	09:23
liz	well got ndiswrapper working	09:23
jussi01	liz: :)	09:23
liz	uninstalled it in adept and then reinstalled it	09:23
liz	now to try the driver......	09:24
risto	How could i restore the default font settings ?	09:25
liz	I really hope after typing: ndiswrapper -i net5211.inf, getting 20+ forcing parameter MapRegisters from 256 to 64 was ok.	09:26
flaccid	seeyas	09:31
Stalk3r	jussi01: it's a beautiful thing, thanks so much, Happy Holidays!	09:32
liz	well "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" yielded this the first time around "FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory"	09:33
liz	so I ran "sudo depmod -ae"	09:34
liz	now I get "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found."	09:34
liz	I head Microsoft and cohorts whispering into my ear to install Windows	09:35
Hamra	liz: close your head then, its evil's sound	09:37
giuseppe	ubotu: Sorry for late answer... I wanna mount NTFS windows partition	09:40
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pag	giuseppe, local partition, or is it shared over internet?	09:42
jussi01	!bot > giuseppe	09:43
giuseppe	pag: local partition	09:43
giuseppe	I was reading @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently	09:44
pag	giuseppe, a command " sudo fdisk -l " will list your partitions. could you tell, which device ( /dev/sd* ) do you want to mount?	09:45
kolja	hi all Q: installing kde4 on ma ubuntu+kde i got errors: package (examples kdebase-runtime-data vs kde4addons-data) create same files (ex. renaudiodlg.desktop) generating a broken pipe in dpkg	09:45
pag	!ntfs \| giuseppe	09:45
ubotu	giuseppe: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE	09:45
liz	ok I'm going to Windows(XP) now. At least it works there.	09:46
giuseppe	pag: dev/sda1	09:46
noaXess	!mouse	09:46
ubotu	Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto	09:46
jussi01	!brokenkde4 \| kolja	09:46
ubotu	kolja: If you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l \| grep "4:3.97.0" \|awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal	09:46
liz	maybe when I sister gets back from Vacation I'll try again, but I am WAY past tired of farking aroung in Kubuntu with the WiFi.	09:47
pag	giuseppe, ok. please, pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ) your /etc/fstab (you can view it with command: cat /etc/fstab )	09:47
pag	giuseppe, and remember to give link to your paste ;)	09:49
kolja	ubotu: thnx.. i'm doing it	09:49
kolja	ahahah	09:49
risto	How could i restore the default font settings ?	09:51
giuseppe	pag	09:51
giuseppe	pag: I pasted etc/fstab content... but do u see it?	09:52
pag	giuseppe, you've got to give link to it (in adressbar of your browser)	09:52
ardchoille	I know you can send your username to the clipboard with "dcop klipper klipper setClipboardContents $(whoami)" but that doesn't work with $(cat /etc/fstab)	09:53
giuseppe	pag: sorry, be patiente please :).... I opened this link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and now I have to paste	09:55
giuseppe	pag: etc/fstab content in text field?	09:55
ardchoille	giuseppe: yes	09:55
giuseppe	pag: done... and now	09:56
ardchoille	giuseppe: Now give us the link that pastebin gave you so we can see what you pasted	09:57
pag	giuseppe, copy text from your adressbar ( the one which reads http://.... ) and paste that link in here	09:57
giuseppe	pag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49466/	09:58
giuseppe	pag: ohhh, great toll this pastebin... useful	09:58
noaXess	!mouse	10:00
ubotu	Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto	10:00
giuseppe	pag: are u able to see it?	10:01
pag	giuseppe, first do the following command " sudo mkdir /media/windows " then press alt+f2 and type " kdesudo kate /etc/fstab " then copy that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49467/ line to the end of the file (start a new line) and save the file	10:01
pag	giuseppe, yup. saw it perfectly :)	10:01
pag	then, the command " sudo mount -a " should mount that parition, and you will be able to see its contents	10:02
giuseppe	pag:	10:03
giuseppe	pag: done, and noe mount -a?	10:03
pag	giuseppe, yes	10:03
giuseppe	pag: great... you were right	10:04
giuseppe	pag: but strange, I follow I similar giude	10:04
giuseppe	pag: but probably I was wrong about etc/fstab content	10:05
slow-motion	hallo	10:06
pag	hello slow-motion :-)	10:06
slow-motion	hi pag	10:07
giuseppe	pag: sorry, but now I will be able to see NTFS partition also @ next restart?	10:07
pag	giuseppe, yes :-)	10:07
ardchoille	giuseppe: You should if it's in /etc/fstab	10:07
giuseppe	pag: ok, I see... Thanks	10:08
pag	giuseppe, also, if you want write acces to that partition, you could install ntfs-3g and change ntfs to ntfs-3g on that fstab line	10:08
ardchoille	pag: isn't ntfs writing a feature of the kernel now?	10:09
pag	ardchoille, I'm not quite sure actually :S I never tried to write ntfs myself	10:10
giuseppe	pag: oh... thanks	10:10
sjck	Somehow Safely remove of my new mp3player doesnt work alright http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/24010/ can anyone help? : (	10:14
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sjck	Is there no way that I can force to remove safely, so the files stay on the mp3player?	10:17
florent	!fr	10:18
ubotu	Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	10:18
florent	it's ok	10:18
SSJ_GZ	sjck: Typing "sync" at a command-prompt should do the trick.	10:21
blackrose	hello	10:49
blackrose	is anybody here?	10:50
JohnFlux	nobody	10:50
blackrose	ohh	10:50
blackrose	wassup?	10:50
jussi01	blackrose: can we help?	10:51
blackrose	no thanks, everything's working fine on my Kubuntu system :)	10:52
jussi01	:)	10:52
blackrose	but thankyou anyways :)	10:52
blackrose	i love this OS :D	10:52
rothchild	"no thanks, everything's working fine on my Kubuntu system :)" Don't you just hate it when that happens ;-)	10:53
jussi01	hehe	10:53
rothchild	I can help you break some stuff if you;re looking for something to do?	10:53
blackrose	:D	10:54
blackrose	yadadaaaa :D	10:54
* jussi01 breaks rothchild		10:54
blackrose	maybe hmmm deleting the /usr/bin directory? :)	10:54
rothchild	oww!	10:54
blackrose	:D	10:54
blackrose	hey aahm merry christmas dudes :D	10:54
jussi01	come on, Kubuntu SUPPORT!!! ... not "how to break kubuntu in 60 seconds"	10:55
blackrose	:D	10:55
rothchild	have you got your windows disk ready blackrose ;-)	10:55
blackrose	yeah :) with Vista :D	10:56
blackrose	but i dunn use it :D	10:56
blackrose	i prefer kubuntu :D	10:56
hungrymouse	anyone know if there's a decent japanese IME for kubuntu?	10:58
jussi01	hungrymouse: IME?	10:58
* jussi01 hates acronyms		10:58
hungrymouse	jussi01: input method editor i believe. basically you type in english letters and it converts them into kana for you	10:58
Hamra	in one week, i've got 3 people giving me their laptops to remove vista and put XP on them! unfortunatly, none of them wanted to hear the slightest mention of linux no matter what! why are ppl so scared of it?	10:59
hungrymouse	Hamra: install linux and skin it to look like xp. they wont notice till they've got hooked.	10:59
jussi01	hungrymouse: ahhh	10:59
hungrymouse	and also, Hamra, people are scared because it's free and... well... unusual. anything free must have problems by many ppls definitions.	11:00
Hamra	lol	11:00
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Hamra	firstly, most of them never realize there is OS other than M$, their first question would be "is older or newer than XP? i heard vista is the newest!". and when i mention free, they say, all of them start free, they dont even know what open source is	11:03
ardchoille	!ot	11:04
ubotu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	11:04
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hungrymouse	thing about open source is it DOESNT MATTER if you cant understand any of the actual source. the fact that its creator is prepared to release the source means that they're confident that it's not gonna embarrass them.	11:06
jari	hi, I have question about USB mic and drivers	11:06
jussi01	jari: go ahead!	11:06
jari	any advice on what to do in order to get the USB microphone working?	11:07
jari	I have so far only used a basic mic but this is logitech's USB mic	11:07
jussi01	jari: usually they just work - but you need to select it in the program - which program are you using fo mic input? skype?	11:08
jussi01	jari: my logitec works fine.	11:08
jari	audacity	11:09
hungrymouse	jari: in general things seem to work with linux. i'm currently connected to 2 external HDDs and they both say that they are only for use with windows. i didnt even need to download extra drivers xD	11:09
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jussi01	jari: one moment while i install audacity and have a look.	11:09
jari	thanks	11:10
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homercycles	Does anybody know of any trickery to get the regular expression match working when setting a window-specific setting in KDE for a particular window and matching on the window's title? I'm trying to remember the window position of the Thunderbird read message window but it keeps loading at the extreme top/right of the screen and it's bugging me to tears :-(	11:10
jussi01	!nickspam > Jezzee\|	11:10
homercycles	Regexes I've tried are: m/\s-\sThunderbird$/ and " - Thunderbird$" (I have no idea of the syntax KDE expects, and the "edit" button to edit the regex doesn't work, either)	11:11
pag	jari, Audacity has some problems with arts, so disabling it (kcontrol -> sound -> sound system) might help	11:11
jussi01	homercycles: I beleive you can change it with a gui in system settings -> window behavior	11:12
hungrymouse	jussi01, i think the syntax is !nickspam \| Jezzee\|	11:12
jussi01	!nickspam > hungrymouse	11:13
hungrymouse	(pipe insted of right triangle)	11:13
jussi01	:)	11:13
ardchoille	:)	11:13
hungrymouse	oh, it sends a pm :P	11:13
hungrymouse	didnt kno that one lol	11:13
homercycles	GUI doesn't load when using the System Settings version of that either, jussi01 :-(	11:13
jari	pag, im unable to find arts from there	11:15
jari	I have krec as well and krecord	11:15
pag	jari, just uncheck "Enable the Sound System"	11:15
pag	jari, oh.. try with them then, instead of Audacity.	11:16
Hamra	what can i do if the title bar of a windows appeared above the screen? i can maximise \ from the taskbar, but i want it "restore", and move it around :S	11:16
jussi01	jari: ok, have you tried Audacity - edit -> preferences - select logitec from there for the recoding device	11:16
jussi01	Hamra: just right click on the item in the task bar and click move	11:17
homercycles	I might go for a centered window placement by default instead of Smart	11:17
jussi01	homercycles: I much prefer that	11:17
homercycles	I would prefer it if Linux could just remember the position of the window and not mess with it, much the same as Windows XP does	11:17
homercycles	I have managed to configure settings for most of my common windows so that they appear in places where I want them, but this Thunderbird message window regex just won't play ball	11:18
jari	jussi01: I was able to select the mic but now audacity says what it cannot open the device	11:19
jussi01	jari: make sure nothing else is using it - like amarok etc	11:19
jari	jussi01: ok there shouldnt be anything using it, the recording was possible while there was no mic before but that should mean the devices are free	11:22
homercycles	I got the regex working if I just type "Thunderbird$" (without the quotes)... getting it to match " - " before the Thunderbird isn't so easy, it seems	11:24
homercycles	\s matches a space, and I didn't think a dash was a special character, but I tried escaping it anyway. Still no match	11:25
jari	should I go with sound system enabled or disabled?	11:25
jari	brb, going to boot	11:27
jussi01	doh	11:28
jussi01	jari: I figured it out	11:31
jari	great	11:31
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jussi01	jari: just go to prefs again, and just below the place you select the mic, choose 1 channel -mono	11:32
jari	funny I just did that and now it records but no sound	11:32
jussi01	jari: go to kmix, and make sure mic boost is on, and the mic volume is turned up	11:33
jari	jussi01: I just did that , too, the mic had its own settins there and its now turned up	11:33
jussi01	jari: so is it working now?	11:35
jari	sorry no it isnt	11:35
jussi01	jari: ok, so when you went to kmix, did you select the logitec from the dropå down?	11:35
jari	yep	11:35
jussi01	gah, stupid swedish å	11:35
jussi01	jari: ok, and the little red light for the mic is on?	11:36
jari	its called AK5370 ...	11:36
jari	yes	11:36
jussi01	hmmm	11:36
jussi01	jari: it should just work - try playing with different settings. mine works fine here	11:37
jari	ok thanks so far however	11:40
jussi01	jari: sorri I cpouldnt be more helpful	11:40
jussi01	jari: one more thing to try, type: alsamixer in konsole and play there	11:41
jari	ok thanks	11:41
jari	I wonder if the usb port matters	11:42
jussi01	jari: I doubt it	11:42
jussi01	the fact its recording from the device just tells me it is muted somewhere	11:43
jussi01	jari: check your volumes everywhere	11:43
jari	it shows always usb hw 1,0 in audacity no matter in what port it is so I wonder if linux rechecks the usb	11:43
jussi01	jari: yes, thats corect behaviour	11:44
jari	ok	11:44
jussi01	jari: Im certain its a volume thing - something is muted or not selected somewhere.	11:45
wubuntu	hi, I've a problem during installation of kde4: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4_4%3a3.97.0-1ubuntu5~gutsy1~ppa3_all.deb	11:47
wubuntu	E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Can anybody help me?	11:47
jussi01	!brokenkde4 \| wubuntu	11:47
ubotu	wubuntu: If you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l \| grep "4:3.97.0" \|awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal	11:47
wubuntu	ok, I'll try that	11:48
jussi01	:)	11:49
jari	ok thanks for everything	11:50
wubuntu	IT WORKS! THANX and Merry Christmas! :-D	11:59
jussi01	wubuntu: np's :)	11:59
effie_jayx	Hello all I just switched to kubuntu :D	12:01
jussi01	effie_jayx: Cool!	12:02
ardchoille	effie_jayx: Good job!	12:02
jussi01	effie_jayx: do you have some q's for us?	12:02
effie_jayx	jussi01: not yet... I had playd with it for a while... on a live cd	12:03
jussi01	effie_jayx: :)	12:03
effie_jayx	I have used ubuntu for two years	12:03
effie_jayx	so I can get around... I guess :D	12:03
jussi01	effie_jayx: yeps, I remembere you ;)	12:03
effie_jayx	jussi01: really ?	12:03
jussi01	effie_jayx: youve been around in other places I hang out ;)	12:04
effie_jayx	jussi01: is hter a menu editor i ked	12:04
effie_jayx	I need to leave out the gnome apps from the KDE menu	12:05
jussi01	effie_jayx: right click on the panel -> configure panel -> menus	12:06
ubunturos	I downloaded rfc's from repos. It does not appear in the help menu. where did it go?	12:07
jussi01	ubunturos: what is rfc?	12:08
ubunturos	jussi01: Request For Comments - a standard doc that specifies rules / notes	12:08
florent	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49473/	12:09
florent	How install my gaphic card ?	12:09
jussi01	florent: kmenu -> system settings -> advanced -> restricted drivers	12:10
_cj	why does the man page formatting in kubuntu suck so bad? i get lots of strange charactors	12:11
_cj	like a with an accent in perldoc LWP	12:11
wubuntu	ok, next problem::P /var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base-data_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb	12:18
wubuntu	/var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb	12:18
wubuntu	/var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-misc-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb	12:18
wubuntu	/var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-emoticons-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb	12:18
wubuntu	/var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-style-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb	12:18
wubuntu	/var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-theme-icon-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb	12:18
wubuntu	/var/cache/apt/archives/kdewallpapers-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb	12:18
wubuntu	/var/cache/apt/archives/kscreensaver-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb	12:18
wubuntu	E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)	12:18
SSJ_GZ	wubuntu: Use pastebin in future, please.	12:19
wubuntu	sorry	12:19
jpatrick	!paste > wubuntu	12:19
wubuntu	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49475/	12:20
wubuntu	better? :-D	12:20
jussi01	wubuntu: much :)	12:21
wubuntu	allright. any solutions?	12:21
ardchoille	wubuntu: Is that German? It's a beautiful language but many here don't speak it. Can you translate some of that?	12:23
wubuntu	ok, which words should I translate?	12:24
ardchoille	wubuntu: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ? That might help.	12:24
wubuntu	sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49476/	12:25
ardchoille	wubuntu: Ok, looks like you're having trouble with the kde4 stuff	12:27
wubuntu	hmm	12:27
ardchoille	!kde4	12:27
ubotu	KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php	12:27
ardchoille	That's not it	12:28
ardchoille	!brokenkde4	12:28
ubotu	If you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l \| grep "4:3.97.0" \|awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal	12:28
ardchoille	There it is	12:28
slow-motion	re	12:28
effie_jayx	I just installed kubuntu-desktop, I have removed all kde apps from the gnome menu. now is there a list of apps for kde, I need to sort the KDE system entries and the GNOME ones	12:28
ardchoille	effie_jayx: Did you know that kde apps run fine in gnome and vice versa?	12:29
wubuntu	yeah, I did that, the installation worked normal - but then I wanted to install kde4artwork and something like this - then I got the same problems	12:29
effie_jayx	ardchoille: I don know that	12:29
effie_jayx	ardchoille: but I need to sort out the system apps	12:30
wubuntu	but now this command: sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l \| grep "4:3.97.0" \|awk '{print $2}') doesn't work anymore!	12:30
effie_jayx	stuff to configure...	12:30
ardchoille	effie_jayx: Understood, maybe someone can help with that, I don't use gnome	12:30
effie_jayx	I just need to know the kde ones	12:30
wubuntu	hmm, seems that it is a bigger prob...	12:32
wubuntu	no solutions?	12:34
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jussi01	wubuntu: have you tried sudo apt-get install -f	12:39
fernando_	olaaaa	12:40
wubuntu	yep - same errors!	12:40
jussi01	wubuntu: no idea then	12:40
jussi01	!es \| fernando_	12:40
fernando_	ay alguien?	12:40
ubotu	fernando_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.	12:40
wubuntu	i cant remove the packages	12:40
wubuntu	so - cant use the package management any more in a proper way...sh**	12:41
jussi01	wubuntu: try: sudo dpkg --configure -a	12:41
wubuntu	did that: same erros	12:41
jussi01	wubuntu: bleh... not nice	12:42
wubuntu	why I must use a rc2? why i just cannot wait for the final? :-D	12:42
jussi01	wubuntu: try sudo dpkg -r kde4base kde4base-data kdeartwork-emoticons-kde4 kdeartwork-misc-kde4 kdeartwork-style-kde4 kdeartwork-theme-icon-kde4 kdewallpapers-kde4 kscreensaver-kde4	12:43
wubuntu	hmmm? it says that these packages are not installed???? confused	12:44
jussi01	wubuntu: huh?	12:45
wubuntu	what?	12:45
jussi01	wubuntu: ok, I really dont know anymore... go find stdin ... :P	12:45
wubuntu	stdin?	12:46
wubuntu	I installed these pakcages: kdebase-workspace kdebase-kde4 kdebase-runtime	12:46
jussi01	wubuntu: stdin did the packages up...	12:47
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wubuntu	where can i find?	12:47
jussi01	wubuntu: he is in here if he is online... so you will have to wait...	12:48
wubuntu	allright - thanx for your help	12:48
anakin_	can someone please help me with this problem? ever since I've upgraded to gutsy, i am unable to browse the shares on my xp box.	12:49
anakin_	it gives me "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED" error no matter what I do.	12:49
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anakin_	here's the smb.conf in case you want to check it out-->> http://rafb.net/p/OXzWho25.html	12:50
jussi01	anakin_: its quite dead atm, so support may be slow in coming.	12:51
jussi01	however, have you googled the error?	12:51
anakin_	yeah, there seems to be a lot of cases. I've tried some of the suggestions i've found on the forums.	12:52
anakin_	the last one i tried included installing printers for unix on my xp box- didnt work that.	12:52
hungrymouse	i just got a load of really odd error messages being thrown from basically all my running applications when i logged on to my comp... something about being unable to find mime-types, and a lot of mention of octet streams. what on earth is it going on about?	12:54
jussi01	hungrymouse: its a present :P	12:55
DreadKnight	xD	12:55
hungrymouse	jussi01, really helpful ><	12:55
jussi01	hungrymouse: you need to be more specific, I was replying "in kind"	12:55
hungrymouse	also its not doing the little preview thing on the icons on the desktop, and when i mouseover a shell script file i got there, it gives me an error message insted of the info box thing.	12:56
schiste	hey. A weird thing happenned to me. When I use alt-tab to switch to another window nothing shows up and I automatically go to the next. Pretty annoying as I can't choose the window I want. Would anyone have an idea why is this happenning? I'm on gutsy without compi or anything alike.	12:56
anakin_	gah! why did i ever upgrade	12:57
marioXXX	hi	12:57
marioXXX	any chance to get flash up and running in Konq on amd64?	12:57
jussi01	!hi \| marioXXX	12:57
ubotu	marioXXX: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	12:57
jussi01	!flashissues	12:57
ubotu	The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.	12:57
hungrymouse	jussi01, im being as specific as i can. the full text of the mouseover error thing is: could not find mime type [newline] application/octet-stream	12:58
hungrymouse	i have no idea what a mime type is.	12:58
tekteen	marioXXX: yes	12:58
jussi01	hungrymouse: screenshot -> imagebin.ca	12:58
tekteen	marioXXX: u can download the tarball and install it	12:58
tekteen	!flash64	12:58
ubotu	You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava	12:58
schiste	ok solved	12:59
* schiste sighs so stupid		12:59
jussi01	schiste: ??	12:59
hungrymouse	what the... i saved the image and then all the previews came back.... odd.	13:00
marioXXX	tekteen: hmm, The new version of Flash is incompatible with Konqueror because it requires XEmbed (Launchpad Bug# 174343). 9.0.48.0 is the last version of flash to support Konqueror in its current state.	13:00
hungrymouse	i'll see if it happens again on reboot	13:00
jussi01	hungrymouse: ehhehehehehe	13:00
hungrymouse	jussi01: what you think the problem was?	13:00
tekteen	marioXXX: did not know that	13:00
schiste	jussi01 I solved my own problem and it was just a default parameter not activated	13:00
marioXXX	tekteen: oki	13:00
jussi01	hungrymouse: no idea, its just funny	13:00
drarem	wow, I'm banned from ubuntu	13:00
schiste	I just though about it 1 minute ago :::)	13:00
drarem	don't know what I did besides asking questions all the time	13:01
jussi01	drarem: have you been to #ubuntu-ops to discuss it?	13:01
drarem	no, ty	13:01
hungrymouse	jussi01: it happened again :(	13:03
wubuntu	could older versions of e.g. amarok, dolphin etc. causes that problems? normally i'm using gnome	13:03
wubuntu	just added some qt-apps	13:03
hungrymouse	jussi01: i screenshotted the first round of errors, when i logged in. what's the url i should upload to?	13:04
jussi01	hungrymouse: imagebin.ca	13:04
hungrymouse	can linux get virusses?	13:05
jussi01	!virus \| hungrymouse	13:05
ubotu	hungrymouse: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21	13:05
tekteen	hungrymouse: if u want a virus checker (to check windows in a dual boot) I suggest klamav	13:07
hungrymouse	jussi01: it seems to like stacking the error messages, but here's 2 of them. http://imagebin.ca/view/3Obtfi.html	13:07
hungrymouse	tekteen: my windows partition is clean, and i have mcafee running fine on that when i use it.	13:07
tekteen	hungrymouse: linux will find stuff windows cant	13:08
hungrymouse	tekteen: rly? i'll give that a try when i sort this then. but this isnt a windows virus problem for sure.	13:08
eagles0513875	!aptfix	13:09
ubotu	If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »	13:09
tekteen	hungrymouse: it has to do with the virus activly defending its self	13:09
jussi01	hungrymouse: have you googled the error? there are about 100000000000 entries for it... seems its a very common problem..	13:09
eagles0513875	someone on linux have a virus	13:09
tekteen	eagles0513875: no	13:09
hungrymouse	tekteen: whenever i've had a virus on windows i pulverise its registry stuff first and ask questions later.	13:09
tekteen	nice :-D	13:09
eagles0513875	i have had issues messing with registry	13:10
eagles0513875	reminds me of something i did back on win 98 lol	13:10
hungrymouse	registry hax is fun.	13:10
tekteen	I pulverize windows then ask lator	13:10
eagles0513875	lol	13:10
jussi01	!ot	13:10
eagles0513875	what kinda haxs u do hungry	13:10
ubotu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	13:10
tekteen	later *	13:10
eagles0513875	can someone tell me if the netbeanse ide is in the gutsy repo	13:10
jussi01	!info netbeans	13:11
ubotu	Package netbeans does not exist in gutsy	13:11
ardchoille	eagles0513875: apt-cache search netbeans	13:11
hungrymouse	incidentally, jussi01, i've found that if i rename a file, it will sort the error till next restart.	13:11
jussi01	!find netbeans	13:11
ubotu	Found: netbeans5.5, netbeans5.5-doc, netbeans5.5-ja, netbeans5.5-platform, netbeans5.5-platform-ja (and 4 others)	13:11
eagles0513875	ardchoille: i did that but im running feisty atm and its repos have 5.5	13:11
jussi01	eagles0513875: yes it is	13:11
eagles0513875	im slowly working to do a complete dist upgrade	13:11
eagles0513875	jussi01: ty	13:11
ardchoille	eagles0513875: Ah, ok	13:11
jussi01	!info netbeabs5.5	13:11
ubotu	Package netbeabs5.5 does not exist in gutsy	13:11
jussi01	!info netbeans5.5	13:12
ubotu	netbeans5.5: NetBeans IDE for development of applications in Java. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 5.5.1-2 (gutsy), package size 67449 kB, installed size 143624 kB	13:12
hungrymouse	ah, i think i know what might have caused the error. i added a file association to link JNLP files to java web start, and that might have upset things./	13:12
jussi01	hungrymouse: thatll do it	13:12
eagles0513875	O_o does that mean they have 5.5 and not 6.0	13:12
jussi01	eagles0513875: correcy	13:13
jussi01	eagles0513875: correct	13:13
eagles0513875	doh	13:13
eagles0513875	how do i go about getting it added to repo	13:13
ardchoille	eagles0513875: /join #ubuntu-motu	13:13
eagles0513875	j/w how does 1 go about creating their own repo	13:14
hungrymouse	jussi01: i've tried the first fix i found. restarting.	13:14
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ardchoille	!aptrepo	13:15
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about aptrepo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	13:15
eagles0513875	!apt repo	13:15
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about apt repo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	13:15
tekteen	!repo	13:15
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	13:15
jussi01	!ppa \| eagles0513875	13:15
ubotu	eagles0513875: With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.	13:15
sigra_	Need help anyone. I cannot get xine to install on kde using package manager. it shows xine. but its GREYED out so i cannot check it to install	13:15
ardchoille	sigra_: xine-ui	13:16
sigra_	apt-get install xine-ui?	13:16
ardchoille	sudo, yes	13:16
sigra_	k trying that..thank you	13:16
ardchoille	yw	13:16
hungrymouse	jussi01: that fix worked. i should have searched to start with, i know, but im not used to finding coherent answers online. i've been using windows till about a week ago.	13:17
jussi01	hungrymouse: google is one of your best friends ;)	13:17
eagles0513875	compared to an ati radeon xpress 200m how much better is an nvidia 6600gt on an nforce4 motherboard would WoW work on it	13:18
sigra_	ardchollie awesome thanks..worked like a charm!	13:19
awen_	sigra_: else i can recommend kmplayer, and it runs with xine as a backend	13:19
sigra_	working now...advice Ardchollie gave me fix my problem..but thank you awen	13:20
effie_jayx	what window decorator does kubuntu use	13:20
* effie_jayx is downloading themes...		13:20
ardchoille	sigra_: :)	13:21
sigra_	have good one guys. going watch movies now heh	13:21
ardchoille	effie_jayx: If you mean window manager, kde uses kwin	13:21
ardchoille	I have a feeling he'll be back asking about dvdcss2	13:21
eagles0513875	lol	13:22
eagles0513875	ardchoille: what command do i need to run a .sh file	13:22
ardchoille	eagles0513875: sh file.sh	13:23
eagles0513875	do i just go to the cli and go to the place where its saved and type the name of it	13:23
eagles0513875	im downloading netbeans 6.0 and its got a .sh extension	13:23
effie_jayx	ardchoille: so can I search for themes for kwin?	13:23
ardchoille	eagles0513875: or you can just open a terminal and so: sh /path/file.sh	13:23
eagles0513875	ok	13:24
ardchoille	effie_jayx: Lots of themes here: http://www.kde-look.org/	13:24
eagles0513875	comcast rocks. internet where i am t school in europe stinks	13:24
ardchoille	eagles0513875: If that netbeans .sh file is an installer, you may need to use sudo	13:24
eagles0513875	ok	13:24
effie_jayx	ardchoille: that's where I'm at...	13:24
eagles0513875	im guessing it is	13:24
eagles0513875	ive never installed netbeans from a download before	13:24
effie_jayx	it reads ... native KDE 3.x... I guess :D	13:25
effie_jayx	guys... 45 minutes into Kubuntu... and loving it...	13:25
eagles0513875	ardchoille: its saying command not found	13:25
eagles0513875	glad to see a new convert	13:26
tekteen	eagles0513875: try bash instead of sh	13:26
Brick	first 45 minutes r easy	13:26
Brick	:-)	13:26
Nakkel	How do I enable propietary Flash on a fresh Gutsy install? The package flashplugin-nonfree doesnt seemt to install any .so files anywhere?	13:26
eagles0513875	welcome to the world of kubuntu and linux effie_jayx	13:26
DreadKnight	effie_jayx: i was annoyed by kde, loved gnome, but my hdd got broken one day.. and was running ubuntu from live cd... one day i scrathed the cd by accident.. was my last one... and i only had old version of kubuntu ... i started loving it xD	13:26
tekteen	!flashissue \| Nakkel	13:27
ubotu	Nakkel: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.	13:27
eagles0513875	i love the 64bit version i cant go back to 32 bit after going 64	13:27
effie_jayx	eagles0513875: I have used ubuntu for quite a while. and I decided to give kubuntu a whack... and it is kicking ass...	13:27
DreadKnight	Nakkel: it's broken . i heard it got fixed in alpha 2 (hardy), but it should work with swiftfox or firefox	13:27
eagles0513875	effie_jayx: i hate to say it but kde is much better then gnome im sry to say	13:28
eagles0513875	i love how lil ram kubuntu uses and how fast the 64bit data throughouhput is	13:29
Nakkel	tekteen, DreadKnight: Ok thanks, will check those out.	13:29
eagles0513875	j/w anyone play WoW on here	13:30
eagles0513875	i need to start getting on the debugging band wagon lol	13:31
eagles0513875	only problem is i only know java lol	13:31
eagles0513875	im currently learning it	13:31
eagles0513875	has anyone tried kubuntu on a solid state drive	13:32
tekteen	eagles0513875: only on a flashdrive	13:32
zorglu_	q. im about to buy a computer and would like to check the compatibility of the graphic card driver, where should i look ?	13:33
ardchoille	zorglu_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport	13:33
eagles0513875	tekteen: how does that work	13:33
zorglu_	ardchoille: ok looking	13:33
tekteen	eagles0513875: what do u mean?	13:33
ardchoille	zorglu_: Which card is it?	13:33
eagles0513875	tekteen: how did u manage to install it on there	13:34
eagles0513875	!sourceomatic	13:34
tekteen	I followed a guide. forgot which one	13:34
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	13:34
eagles0513875	lol	13:34
zorglu_	ardchoille: various alternative are possible. may be 'nvideo8600gt' or 'nvideo8600gs' or 'ati hd2400pro' or 'ati x1250'	13:35
awen_	zorglu_: what gfx card?	13:35
effie_jayx	eagles0513875: what's the minimum ram aceptable for kubuntu?	13:35
eagles0513875	320mb if u want a decent working desktop	13:35
eagles0513875	if not i think 64mb i could be wrong let me double check	13:35
_cj	where do core files go on ubuntu?	13:35
zorglu_	awen_: ardchoille: none of which is in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards	13:36
tekteen	_cj:which core files?	13:36
ardchoille	zorglu_: Have a look here for vid card driver how to's https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	13:36
zorglu_	ardchoille: ok looking	13:36
eagles0513875	effie_jayx: http://bw.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/	13:36
eagles0513875	take a look at that	13:36
_cj	tekteen: a program i'm writing just cored but theres no core file in pwd	13:36
eagles0513875	effie_jayx: u need a min of 320mb for a fully functional desktop	13:37
eagles0513875	more never hurts in all honesty the more u have the better the performance	13:37
* tekteen does not understand _cj		13:37
_cj	tekteen: which part isn't clear?	13:38
effie_jayx	eagles0513875: ahhh cool	13:38
* awen_ remember running kubuntu feisty on his old laptop with 192 mb ram		13:38
eagles0513875	effie_jayx: y u ask u got an older system u wanna put it on	13:38
* tekteen thinks this is beyond him		13:38
_cj	tekteen: on most operating systems when a program cores it leaves a core dump in the current working directory	13:38
_cj	tekteen: on ubuntu it doesn't	13:38
eagles0513875	and urs didnt cj	13:38
zorglu_	ardchoille: do you haveanother link where i could know which card is supported. in ati and/or nvidia.	13:38
tekteen	_cj: it leaves it somewhere	13:39
eagles0513875	zorglu_: avoid ati	13:39
_cj	tekteen: so i gathered. the question is where?	13:39
tekteen	_cj: maybe in a sub dir of /var	13:39
zorglu_	eagles0513875: yep i heard this one before. i will :)	13:39
eagles0513875	zorglu_: i have to say though in gutsy its improved	13:39
tekteen	I will look	13:39
awen_	zorglu_ and eagles0513875, at least until we get a decent open source driver	13:39
eagles0513875	zorglu_: all i had to do when i first logged in check the drivers i want installed my video card and broadcom wifi card worked out of th ebox after restart	13:40
ardchoille	zorglu_: For nvidia: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html	13:40
tekteen	_cj: maybe /var/crash	13:40
eagles0513875	awen_: lol true i have to say for me gutsy has been a blessing	13:40
zorglu_	eagles0513875: what is the model of your graphic card ?	13:40
* tekteen does not program much		13:40
zorglu_	ardchoille: thanks looking	13:40
eagles0513875	zorglu_: in my laptop ati radeon xpress 200m integrated. in the desktop im on its a pci-e 6600gt	13:41
zorglu_	eagles0513875: ok	13:41
awen_	eagles0513875: i actually wish me back to my old laptop with an ati radeon 9600... they worked well with the open source driver	13:41
eagles0513875	im working on upgradeing myself from feisty to gutsy to see if it works that way for me	13:41
ardchoille	zorglu_: Don't use ati, I've always had better luck with nvidia cards	13:41
eagles0513875	awen_: what open source driver	13:41
ardchoille	s/Don't/I don't/	13:41
eagles0513875	zorglu_: i agree with ard on that	13:41
awen_	eagles0513875: just the ati/radeon driver	13:41
eagles0513875	prior to gutsy it got really messy for me black listing this moding the xorg.conf file	13:42
eagles0513875	prior to gutsy it got really messy for me black listing this moding the xorg.conf file	13:42
tekteen	ardchoille: I have been fine with ati cards	13:42
awen_	right now i have an x300 still using the ati/radeon driver... but performance is just poor	13:42
eagles0513875	tekteen: lol ur probably one in a million	13:42
eagles0513875	awen_: i have noticed that once i patch world of warcraft	13:42
zorglu_	http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.03.html <- ok nvideo 8600gt is supported	13:42
eagles0513875	prior to patching it works fine then after fps really drops	13:43
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eagles0513875	its kinda funny though in the past ive noticed that card maxed out at 30fps in WoW	13:43
eagles0513875	no i get sometimes with the latest ati drive bout 50fps	13:43
tekteen	eagles0513875: I was fine with ati cards before the restrict. driver manager	13:43
* awen_ agrees with tekteen... been using kubuntu it with 4 different ati cards now, without any large problems		13:43
hungrymouse	a friend of mine uses ati with (as far as i know) no problems.	13:44
hungrymouse	(on kubuntu)	13:44
tekteen	eagles0513875: I got a new card before the manager came out	13:44
eagles0513875	lucky my laptop i have had huge problems	13:44
awen_	but avoid fglrx if you can :)	13:44
tekteen	eagles0513875: now I have gotten lazy :-D	13:44
eagles0513875	ya had to use this wiki mod the xorg.conf black list fglrx and only god knows what else i had to do to enable direct rendering	13:44
eagles0513875	tekteen: we all have	13:44
eagles0513875	tekteen: im hoping to get better performance out of my 6600gt	13:45
eagles0513875	brb guys going to restart after updating my machine	13:45
tekteen	eagles0513875: I am thinking of becoming a traitor and try gentoo.	13:45
tekteen	trying