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ryanov	Hopefully that has changed since then.	00:00
ryanov	Tallen: Someone said that earlier.	00:00
david__	i can't make gutsy work like fiesty this really dissapointed me :(	00:00
whtet	.	00:00
hatter	well, tvtime is not working now, it worked before installing zoneminder	00:00
Vovik_	Installed ubuntu, loaded - Monitor says "not supported". in recovery mode - boots, issued permits and frequency - is not helpful. Video Card - GeForce 5200	00:00
ryanov	Tallen: http://osdir.com/ml/admin.managers/2005-07/msg00005.html	00:00
ryanov	Tallen: Discussion of what's different.	00:01
theLichKing	why do they say guys, fiesty, dapper in the tutorials.. isn't it just easier to track versions by numbers like 6.10, 7.10	00:01
simmer1	disable the cdrom sources in /etc/apt/sources.list	00:01
simmer1	doh, that was ages ago!	00:01
alemones	rodolfo: I did a reconfigure xserver xorg as it lost the resolution options....	00:01
lukasz	I followed it and still says render is mesa wols?	00:02
* Tallen is installing linux-image-server		00:02
ryanov	Looks like the easy way to go.	00:02
Shpook	jepes_: I'm really sorry, my brother called long distance and I had to take it. Let me take a look now.	00:02
ryanov	At least you'll know whether it makes a difference.	00:02
rodolfo	alemones, let me guess you've changed your xorg and didnt make a backup file	00:02
kspear	hi	00:02
xororand	hi. does someone have an up-to-date vim .deb with python support but _without_ the gtk gui?	00:02
ryanov	Tallen: I'm out, but good luck.	00:03
lukasz	!pastbin	00:03
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:03
Tallen	ryanov: thanks.	00:03
lukasz	!pstbin	00:03
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about pstbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:03
kspear	i have a question about sata pci cards... anyone have any experience using them with ubuntu?	00:03
ryanov	!pastebin	00:03
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	00:03
aeGIs	Equality consists in the same treatment of similar persons.	00:03
sint	wols: rcconf works, but it doesn't shows every daemon which is starting at boot time. for me its not showing ssh	00:04
barata	hi all .. happy holiday!!	00:04
barata	what is the best youtube downloader?	00:04
lukasz	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49911/ wols	00:04
alecwh	When I'm in the Vitrual Terminal, the fonts are very big. Is it possible to size-down the font size?	00:04
rodolfo	alemones, have you set a 1280x800 res on section screen -> <your graphics controller> -> subsection display?	00:04
Shpook	jepes_: Try changing the line "Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" to this: "Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"	00:05
Vovik_	barata, for linux ?	00:05
Dmitry_	could someone provide an address for a guide that covers the installation of a wired router?	00:06
Shpook	jepes_: then restart X	00:06
alemones	rodolfo: yes, I did that	00:06
lukasz	hmm	00:07
whtet	i am trying to ssh to my own box over rsa1 authentication, i have enabled "RSAAuthentication yes" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config also. when i try to connect it, the error said that my box is not providing SSH protocol version 1, i have restarted my sshd as well	00:07
hatter	now i have this : zmfix[9399]: ERR [Can't chmod /dev/video1 to 20666: Operation not permitted]	00:07
mete	Hi	00:07
KlrSpz	Gnea: you around?	00:08
jepes_	shpook: okay i'll try it.	00:08
mete	I've just setted up the nfs-kernel-server and have configured one share. Now I want to connect from a win box to this share, but it asks me for a PW. why? here is my config file: http://pastebin.us/?show=m20f3f103	00:08
juan	can someone help me with my display?	00:08
KlrSpz	anyone familiar with IP MASQUERADING? It seems to be set up correctly in the iptables FORWARD chain, but i'm not getting any actual forwarding	00:08
juan	basically getting one large desktop on both mons	00:09
Avt	I need to add terminal to the grub boot menu how??????????????	00:09
juan	is it possible to assign a workspace to each? or split them so that when i maximize windows, it goes to that monitor and not span both	00:09
sint	Avt: terminal?	00:09
Vovik_	Avt, i don't understand you	00:09
Avt	terminal the thing you type in	00:09
osfameron	to stop synaptics touchpad ever generating middle clicks, should it be enough to set "Emulate3Buttons" to "false" ?	00:09
sint	Avt: grub comes with some kind of pseudo terminal	00:10
osfameron	I'm really tired of accidentally pasting crap in irc :-)	00:10
juan	i've disabled Xinerama	00:10
rodolfo	alemones, hold on, googling for it	00:10
juan	and it still does the same thing	00:10
Avt	I cant reset root passwd	00:10
Likuid_Silence	why are ppl using linux and dont even know what a terminal is	00:10
ompaul	Avt, you can't really do that - what is it you want to achive with this terminal? we may have what you want a different way	00:10
=== gouki_ is now known as gouki
ompaul	!root \| Avt	00:10
ubotu	Avt: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	00:10
=== dkz0r is now known as Andre_Alves
alemones	rodolfo: thanks!	00:10
ompaul	Avt, did you set a root password?	00:10
Avt	yes I did	00:10
Avt	want tio chanbge	00:10
nickrud	osfameron, no, add Option "TouchpadOff" "1" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the synaptics section	00:11
osfameron	nickrud: I would have thought that would also disable the Touchpad entirely? What's the actual effect of that line?	00:12
KlrSpz	you have to specify the device properly or it'll default again in the other device layout	00:12
nickrud	oh, just the tapping? misread. set it to 2	00:12
nickrud	osfameron, 0 is on, 1 is off, 2 is tap disabled	00:12
osfameron	nickrud, KlrSpz: oh I see, the number setting means something	00:13
osfameron	where are all the xorg.conf options documented?	00:13
osfameron	I don't think I want to disable tapping	00:13
osfameron	I just want to disable middle clicking	00:13
jepes	shpook: didnt work, thanks anyway, i have to go to work now. i'll try again later.	00:13
osfameron	sometimes I get whatever's currently selected pasted (usually into irc)	00:13
osfameron	and that's embarrassing. Given that I have no use for middle-mouse button, I might as well disable it	00:14
KlrSpz	you want to disable the middle button, or the clipboard effect	00:14
KlrSpz	ah	00:14
g2g591	osfameron: man xorg.conf	00:14
nickrud	osfameron, man synaptics has it all. You might try Option "SHMConfig" "On" , and install gsynaptics, it's a gui frontend to configuring the touchpad	00:14
ompaul	Avt, so do this as your ordinary user; sudo passwd -l root	00:14
Shpook	jepes: when you get back, try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"	00:14
Shpook	Bla, he left already	00:14
ompaul	Avt, reboot after that and enjoy	00:14
osfameron	I don't have a middle mouse button. I've installed gsynaptics, and prevented touching with 2 fingers invoking middle click	00:14
KlrSpz	remapt he buttons with the OPtion "ButtomMapping" section	00:14
ewook	generic question - how many virtual interfaces can one add ?	00:15
g2g591	osfameron: "man xorg.conf"	00:15
Avt	sudo passwd -l root reboot then what?	00:15
KlrSpz	1 <some wildass number> 3 4 5 6 ...	00:15
Shpook	ewook: do you mean desktops?	00:15
osfameron	KlrSpz, nickrud, g2g591: ta, I'll man xorg.conf and synaptics	00:15
ompaul	Avt, no	00:15
Avt	I need root to change stuff	00:15
ompaul	Avt, sudo passwd -l root	00:15
KlrSpz	anyone familiar with IP MASQUERADING? It seems to be set up correctly in the iptables FORWARD chain, but i'm not getting any actual forwarding happening	00:15
ompaul	Avt, reboot - then you don't have a root password it is all back to normal	00:15
ewook	Shpook: no, eth-interfaces	00:15
Avt	ompaul I want a root password lol	00:16
nickrud	osfameron, there's lots of options, have at it. I ended up just training my fingers :)	00:16
hatter	KlrSpz, dont know your circumstances but i use shorewall to make iptables easy	00:16
Avt	just want to change it	00:16
Delvien	Having problems copying a file to an external HDD. its 5.6gig file. and it keeps telling me that the file limit has exceeded.. is there anyway to move big files?	00:16
KlrSpz	hatter: trying to masquerade eth0 to forward through wlan0	00:16
KlrSpz	will shorewall do that?	00:16
nickrud	Avt, sudo -i will give you all the rootness you need. you can do anything (hint) there	00:16
mete	I've just setted up the nfs-kernel-server and have configured one share. Now I want to connect from a win box to this share, but it asks me for a PW. why? here is my config file: http://pastebin.us/?show=m20f3f103	00:17
ompaul	KlrSpz, there is this>>> sudo echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward	00:17
Shpook	ewook: oh....beyond me...sorry lol	00:17
hatter	KlrSpz, yes, shorewall does everything, a bit of reading though, there is some understanding required	00:17
rodolfo	alemones, is your driver recognized by the kernel? is it been using or just emulated?	00:17
KlrSpz	ompaul: yeah i have that	00:17
ompaul	Avt, then you can't have your cake and eat it, you can't get there from here	00:17
osfameron	nickrud: so I see :-( I try to be careful, but spamming irc channels when I just wanted to move the mouse is really annoying...	00:17
hatter	KlrSpz, yes, u	00:17
KlrSpz	ompaul: and have verified that it IS set to 1	00:17
Avt	what	00:17
hatter	ip forwarding needs to be enabled first	00:17
Avt	thats lame	00:17
KlrSpz	have that though	00:17
Avt	ok so what I do after its gone	00:18
Avt	to make new one	00:18
ompaul	!rootsudo \| Avt	00:18
ubotu	Avt: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	00:18
KlrSpz	Avt: dude, what don't you get.. you DON'T USE ROOT	00:18
Delvien	!tar	00:18
ubotu	Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression	00:18
rodolfo	alemones, do me a favor, go to system>administration>screens and graphics and click on 'video card' tab	00:18
KlrSpz	it's only been said 1000000 times to you, do you understand english?	00:18
Avt	no	00:18
KlrSpz	aparently not	00:18
ompaul	Avt, if you insist on asking how to use root I will be remove	00:18
ompaul	d	00:18
osfameron	hmmm. I had installed gsynaptics, but it appears to have disappeared	00:18
sint	how to remove ssh from starting at boot time?? rcconf doesn't shot ssh and update-rd.d just don't do nothing	00:19
ompaul	Avt, no you will be actually removed - minor typo there	00:19
Avt	im confused is all	00:19
sint	is there a config file anywhere?	00:19
Avt	k nevermind I wikll reinstall	00:19
* nickrud thinks that's not a minor typo ;-p		00:19
ompaul	Avt, you read that page and be enlightened	00:19
Shpook	Does anyone know how to restore the original Ubuntu sound server and fully remove PulseAudio? When I try to run Pidgin, I get these errors and a segfault: http://pastebin.org/13261	00:19
KlrSpz	sint, sudo update-rc.d sshd remove	00:19
Huffameg	hi! can someone please help me!? after upgrading 7.04->7.10 I have lost the icons for the different tools in OpenOffice. how do I restore them??	00:19
sint	KlrSpz: hm ...	00:20
hatter	sint, you can change /etc/init.d/ssh to /etc/init.d/ssh.off then update-rc.d ssh remove	00:20
KlrSpz	hatter, i'd really like to NOT use shorewall if i can get away with it, it seems like a pretty simple task.. dunno why i can't get it to work	00:20
sint	KlrSpz: i don't get the super user thing in ubuntu ..	00:20
osfameron	ah! top-right corner generates middle click, bottom-right generates right click	00:20
osfameron	wtf would I want that?	00:20
lukasz	i will reboot and see	00:20
hatter	KlrSpz, keep asking then, someone will know, i am lazy and have learnt shorewall instead of iptables	00:20
sint	i am root and i thought it work, but i have to type sudo when i am root?? strange ...	00:20
harish	su root	00:21
KlrSpz	no, but you shouldn't be root according to ubuntu's standards	00:21
KlrSpz	if you ARE root, then run without sudo	00:21
hatter	sint, you can add a root password and not use the sudo thing	00:21
=== psyphen_ is now known as psyphen
ompaul	!rootsudo \| sint (you should actually be able to work with this --- no you don't have to use sudo if you are root but you are not right to be using root see your question for proof)	00:21
ubotu	sint (you should actually be able to work with this --- no you don't have to use sudo if you are root but you are not right to be using root see your question for proof): sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	00:21
t3hwiz0rd	how can i find out where a usb device mounted to if its a cellphone?	00:22
alemones	rodolfo: got it, it's the intel experimental driver blabla	00:22
nettow0822	anyone here used a palm pilot over you wireless network?	00:22
t3hwiz0rd	i tried to tail /var/log/messages, but it doesn't show where it mounted.	00:22
sint	i know about sudo ... but i'm used to use root account when doing more then one administrative thing. this prevents me from typing sudo all the time	00:22
harish	type mount	00:22
harish	sint, type su root	00:22
KlrSpz	sint: if i'm doing a lot of admin/root work, yeah i'll "sudo su"	00:22
t3hwiz0rd	it doesn't how it but lsusb does	00:22
sint	KlrSpz: ya, thats what i've done	00:22
g2g591	sint:sudo -i = root without setting root password	00:22
t3hwiz0rd	its a cellphone	00:23
ompaul	sint, Avt by the way this channel does not support you using root - this command restores normal service>>> sudo passwd -l root	00:23
sint	KlrSpz: but update-rc.d don't work then	00:23
KlrSpz	then no worries.. some people get really bent out of shape htough if you run as root	00:23
t3hwiz0rd	not a harddrive, so iunn if mount will show it.	00:23
ompaul	!supportroot \| g2g591	00:23
ubotu	g2g591: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)	00:23
KlrSpz	sint, odd works here.. you sur eit's still in your run level?	00:23
astro76	sint, there's sudo -i if you really need a root shell	00:23
sint	KlrSpz: ya it was. since its running	00:23
ompaul	g2g591, a bit harsh but you get the drift :)	00:23
KlrSpz	was though, it won't stop just by running that	00:24
hatter	i gave root a password and stopped using sudo	00:24
osfameron	rock! $ synclient RTCornerButton=0 # and my problems are solved! Well, that one at least	00:24
sint	astro76: hm, "sudo -i" seem like the same as "sudo su"	00:24
g2g591	ompaul: i didnt say i did, i said "sudo -i" gives you root without setting a root password, sheesh	00:24
ompaul	g2g591, ergo the bit harsh comment	00:24
Anubyss	Hi I can't seem to get my Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeMusic card working. I do a lspci -v and I see my card ,but no sound comes out. Do I need a driver? and is there one for my card, because I went to the compatibilty driver site and I didn't see one.	00:25
astro76	sint, essentially, seems like a cleaner way to do it though	00:25
KlrSpz	bbias, trying something stupid with iptables :D	00:25
__mikem	Anubyss, and you are not going to get that card to work, Creative Labs doesn't support linux for their newer cards	00:25
dolphin_noel	someone knows some good language document translactor software to linux that it is not the altavista or google translactor website	00:25
hatter	creative labs have been bought by ms ?	00:25
ompaul	sint, has to do with what shell values you keep - i.e. behaves like a real login shell which can be useful	00:25
KlrSpz	sint, actually "sudo su -" would be like "sudo -i" for the interactive login scripts to execute	00:26
__mikem	hatter, no they sympathize with ms though	00:26
KlrSpz	otherwise you're just changing users	00:26
ompaul	hatter, interesting but offtopic	00:26
KlrSpz	ie, you don't execute the profile for root without the - or -i	00:26
hatter	np	00:26
__mikem	Anubyss: I suggest you refrain from doing business with creative labs in the future unless they adopt a less hostile stance on linux and open source	00:26
Anubyss	_mikem so there isn't a way? not even with a generic driver? do I get to install another card and if so which one would you recommend	00:26
=== Tribes_ is now known as Tribes
sint	KlrSpz: ok, good to know. but this thing about update-rc.d is to crazy for me. i've tested it on another box running ubuntu and have the same issue	00:27
jvai	hey ppls	00:27
sint	its still not working in root without sudo	00:27
__mikem	Anubyss, creative labs doesn't even release the specs on their cards until they are no longer supported, so until then there is no legal way to write generic drivers for it	00:27
rodolfo	alemones: still looking for a solution; you may consider to reconfigure xorg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	00:27
sint	anyway	00:28
KlrSpz	sint: 1 sec lemme test it to make sure that's right	00:28
Huffameg	how do i stop my computer from making system sounds - for instance it beeps if i press bacspace without any characters to erase..	00:28
Anubyss	_mikem I agree, however I bought this Dell XPS high end gaming machine and it came with XP, and I just installed ubunto in dual boot and the sound is the only thing I can't get to work	00:28
hatter	any of you use ubuntu server ? i found the realtek drivers have issues, which i guess is kernel related not ubuntu related	00:28
Huffameg	?	00:28
alemones	rodolfo: thanks a lot, gotto sleep so will continue tomorrow!! thx!	00:28
sint	KlrSpz: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/sshd exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)	00:28
rodolfo	alemones, np	00:28
sint	this is what i always get	00:28
nickrud	rodolfo, so what did you do to clear the file not found error? Inquiring people (ok, maybe just one) want to know	00:29
__mikem	ompaul, how about an ubotu factoid explaining to people why their soundblaster won't work and listing a few other companies who are happy to release linux drivers for their card along with suggesting not buying any more crap from creative labs?	00:29
__mikem	ompaul, because I am tired of typing out this speach over and over again	00:29
* LimCore found another bug in ubuntu		00:30
Onyx	LimCore: What is it?	00:30
Anubyss	_mikem actually they have a driver ,but its beta and only for a 64 bit linux	00:30
magic_ninja	man setting up these menus is a ton of work on icewm	00:30
__mikem	Anubyss: YOUR KIDDING, link please?	00:30
Anubyss	yes on moment	00:30
KlrSpz	sint: dude sorry, 1 sec, i got like 10 things going on	00:31
sint	KlrSpz: no problem	00:31
ompaul	__mikem, I'll consult someone who knows more about that kind of thing and come up with something	00:31
KlrSpz	sint:	00:31
KlrSpz	tvbox@tvbox:/tmp$ sudo update-rc.d sshd remove	00:31
KlrSpz	Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/sshd ...	00:31
__mikem	!paste	00:31
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	00:31
rodolfo	nickrud, i did? i told you its working perfectly, at least it seems to, once i still didnt get any problem just like disappearing window layouts nor any conflict	00:31
hatter	anyone have any clue why tvtime would stream fine but zoneminder shows rubbish is if using a different module ?	00:31
sint	KlrSpz: strange	00:32
KlrSpz	yeah, really strange?	00:32
sint	KlrSpz: i also discovered. its maybe not a got thing to play with rcconf and update-rc.d in the same time	00:32
KlrSpz	sint: try ls -la /etc/rc2.d/ssh	00:33
KlrSpz	if that doesn't come back with anything then ssh is no longer set up to run at boot	00:33
=== kyu_flux_ is now known as kyu_flux
KlrSpz	but the only thing i can think of is if something is depending on ssh to be started	00:33
sint	is comes up with this: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2007-11-07 12:49 /etc/rc2.d/S16ssh -> ../init.d/ssh	00:33
chickenFuego	Hi there. How can I dump and see what is going through my bluetooth? (using bluez, linux on a laptop and a lego NXT robot)	00:33
KlrSpz	oh ok, i typed it up wrong it's ssh, not sshd, and yeah i get that too.. hmm	00:33
__mikem	chickenFuego: what is Chicken Fire?	00:34
vv	hi people	00:34
Anubyss	_mikem, here's the link: http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp?MainCategory=209&nRegionFK=&nCountryFK=&nLanguageFK=&sOSName=Linux&region=1&Product_Name=Sound+Blaster+X-Fi+XtremeMusic&Product_ID=14066&modelnumber=&driverlang=1033&OS=12&drivertype=0&x=23&y=16	00:34
Anubyss	but its only for 64 bit	00:34
sint	KlrSpz: but its just "ssh" on ubuntu	00:34
nickrud	rodolfo, yes you mentioned the compizconfig working, but the error about the missing file in apt-get ? Downloading the deb and dropping it into the archive fixed that?	00:34
sint	there is no sshd	00:34
rodolfo	nickrud, not to mention that i had to remove the current version (the one that came with ubuntu) and install that other one found here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/x11/compizconfig-settings-manager	00:34
__mikem	Anubyss, perhaps creative labs is beginning to clean up their act finally.	00:35
mpeters	blaaah i can't find anything on this sound issue. i can't be the only one	00:35
nickrud	rodolfo, hmm...	00:35
sint	in /etc/init.d/ is only a ssh not a sshd	00:35
danbhtwo	hello, im runing xubuntu, and udevd is eating up most of my cpu, please help	00:35
Anubyss	not really because it won't help me, I have 32 bit OS	00:35
vv	htop	00:35
nickrud	sint, yes that's the one you want to remove	00:35
sint	anyway ... i need some sleep and i will check back for this tomorrow.	00:35
sint	thanks to all :)	00:35
nickrud	vv, wrong terminal?	00:36
__mikem	Anubyss, well, can't really help you there. You might try finding an older sound card you might have lieing around and installing it.	00:36
hwilde	sint, it is called openssh-server	00:36
vv	???	00:36
hwilde	sint, and it is sshd	00:36
nickrud	vv, you just wrote htop	00:36
Anubyss	_mikem, anyway I can upgrade to 64 bit ubunto and preserve my current configuration, and if so its it worth it	00:36
hwilde	KlrSpz, openssh-server	00:36
vv	htop or top	00:36
rodolfo	nickrud, as far as you know, compizconfig was called but nothing happened...removing it and installing this deb file (seemed to)get the problem solved	00:36
vv	services list	00:36
hwilde	Anubis, do u have a 64bit processor?	00:36
chickenFuego	__mikem, I have a problem with a java api driving a robot through bluetooth.. A missing byte in the bluetooth messages.. So I need to see what is going through blutooth. With rfcomm, it would be a cat on /dev/rfcomm0 or so, but how is it with bluez?	00:36
__mikem	Anubyss: I'd do a backup first though.	00:37
nickrud	rodolfo, ok, thanks. One more potential fix for an obscure problem :)	00:37
rodolfo	nickrud, so far nothing weird happened nor conflicts...	00:37
Eleaf	Does anybody use gedit for web development? I'm trying to find a way to use a plugin for css validation.	00:37
hwilde	chickenFuego, what robot ?	00:37
danbhtwo	should I file a bug report about udevd using so much resources?	00:37
niuq	ive installed ubuntu 7.10 in a toshiba laptop	00:37
Eleaf	I have html validation working well with tidy in gedit	00:37
__mikem	Eleaf, try geany	00:37
niuq	and i have a weird issue with the windows	00:37
LimCore	ubuntu fails to use gnome at all, wow.	00:37
Anubyss	_mikem, what would you recommend to use as backup, I don't want to loose my configuration because I have Compiz among other things working great	00:38
rodolfo	nickrud, what about that guy's one?	00:38
Eleaf	__mikem, I was just getting gedit looking great	00:38
niuq	the upside bar it's appearing to big, actually enormous, i don't have any idea how to resize that bar, any help welcome	00:38
chickenFuego	hwilde, it is a lego mindstorms NXT. but my question applies to any data stream going through bluetooth/bluez. How do I see it?	00:38
nickrud	rodolfo, which guy's one what?	00:38
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__mikem	Anubyss: just create an archive of your home dirrectory, and save it to some mass storage device	00:38
rodolfo	nickrud, he had to set his res each time the system was initialized. do you know how he could have get it fixed? (alemones)	00:38
hwilde	chickenFuego, dmesg will tell you where it is	00:39
LimCore	gnome wm fails to start up (crash) under which package report it on lunchpad	00:39
Huffameg	no one who can help me with the icons in OpenOffice? they're all gone and i can't understand how to restore them..	00:39
Anubyss	_mikem, ok thanks	00:39
resi	hello	00:39
chickenFuego	hwilde, thx, I am trying it.	00:39
resi	failed to initialize HAL problem	00:39
__mikem	Anubyss, you have a 64 bit computer right?	00:39
KlrSpz	anyone familiar with IP MASQUERADING? It seems to be set up correctly in the iptables FORWARD chain, but i'm not getting any actual forwarding happening	00:39
resi	is there any progress?	00:39
nickrud	rodolfo, oh, missed that one. I hear that nvidia off the nvidia site sometimes has that problem. I don't have nvidia so don't remember the fix off the top of my head.	00:39
shadowhywind	hay all i just did a fresh install of kubuntu and tried to install firefox, but all that is showing up is 1.5pre is there anyway to update that?	00:39
rodolfo	nickrud, this is about an intel video card. i know because i asked him about that	00:40
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Anubyss	yes, but I was sure if I'll be able to get all the software and drivers for this machine. this PC is relative new, got it a year ago its a Dell XPS 600 tower	00:40
nickrud	Huffameg, try changing the icon theme	00:41
resi	is there any progress?	00:41
hwilde	Huffameg, apt-get reinstall openoffice	00:41
chickenFuego	hwilde, here is my dmesg, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49917/	00:41
__mikem	Anubyss: just making sure	00:41
ompaul	KlrSpz, have a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/firewall-configuration.html	00:41
chickenFuego	doesn't say much :-/	00:41
\|juan\|	I don't understand why my monitors are spanning as one desktop with xinerama turned off... and why, despite the xorg showing the nvidia driver, that the nvidia-settings shows an error saying i don't have the nvidia driver enabled	00:41
nickrud	Huffameg, and install openoffice.org-style-default and openoffice.org-style-crystal	00:41
Jan`	hihi	00:42
magic_ninja	!idesk	00:42
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about idesk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:42
magic_ninja	what are some idesk alternatives	00:42
cbx33	anyone around for a quick iptables help???	00:42
Jan`	Question: do current versions of Ubuntu have inbuilt support for at least reading Mac-formatted HFS+ disks?	00:42
nickrud	rodolfo, then I have zero clue. It's hard enough just trying to keep up with all of ati's issues	00:42
niuq	how could i change the size of the upside bar of every window??	00:42
proqesi	Anubyss: sometimes being new means lesser support because developers have to havetime to create drivers	00:42
KlrSpz	ompaul: yeah, i've done esentially that	00:42
mpeters	found the fix	00:43
chickenFuego	hwilde, and the messages where 3 hours ago, but I was using the device in-between (and working, only with a particular bug)	00:43
hatter	if i plug a usb camera in and it is recognised, where should i find it ?	00:43
rodolfo	nickrud...intel	00:43
KlrSpz	ompaul: and it looks right when i list the iptables, but it's not freakin working	00:43
Huffameg	nickrud: i have tried to change the icon theme in ubuntu without any luck. how do i install those?	00:43
cbx33	iptables --append FORWARD --in-interface ath0 -j ACCEPT	00:43
cbx33	iptables --append FORWARD --in-interface eth1 -j ACCEPT	00:43
cbx33	iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-interface eth0 -j MASQUERADE	00:43
Anubyss	proqesi, yes I agree, thank you	00:43
cbx33	i have some rules like that	00:43
ompaul	!paste	00:43
Huffameg	hwilde: it says unvalid operation	00:43
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	00:43
nickrud	niuq, only by changing the window border under system->prefs->appearance, themes tab customize buttton	00:43
cbx33	now say i only want to allow 2 mac addresses to use ath0	00:43
Jan`	....I'll take that as a "no".	00:43
cbx33	how do i do that?	00:43
rodolfo	nickrud...well whatever i am still looking for some solution. telling him to (re)configure xorg is a waste of time	00:44
astro76	Jan`, yes	00:44
neko	rodolfo	00:44
neko	whats the actual problem?	00:44
rodolfo	neko: ?	00:44
neko	<<-- knows xorg pretyt good	00:44
hwilde	Huffameg, figure out how to reinstall it with apt-get	00:44
neko	*pretty	00:44
nickrud	Huffameg, install those icon packages, for some reason you're missing them	00:44
Jan`	neko: Problem is I have a Mac formatted firewire disk which contains files I need on a Windows computer.	00:44
hwilde	chickenFuego, I don't think it is creating an i/o device for you. there is no way to decrypt them anyways	00:45
KlrSpz	ompaul: any ideas?	00:45
Jan`	I read that there are (experimental?) HFS+ drivers for Linux.	00:45
KlrSpz	this is driving me bonkers. i've been at this for a few months now	00:45
magic_ninja	!sgml	00:45
neko	Jan` what doeds that have to do with xorg?	00:45
Jan`	Ubuntu is the least bad version of Linux. Ergo.	00:45
Huffameg	nickrud: yes. which codes do I run?	00:45
Jan`	neko: I've no idea. What's xorg?	00:45
neko	ffs	00:45
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about sgml - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:45
hwilde	KlrSpz, why do u need to ip masquerade anyways just do nat	00:45
nickrud	niuq, I ended up going to art.gnome.org and getting spifficity or some name similar, it's ugly but short	00:45
neko	ok one sec Jan`	00:45
KlrSpz	hwilde: tht's what masquerading is	00:45
ompaul	KlrSpz, stick your rules into a paste.ubuntu-nl.org and we can have a look at them	00:45
proqesi	Jan`: yes, they have been "experimental" for five years	00:45
vishal	hi, how would i connect to a network shared printer?	00:45
KlrSpz	ompaul: from a iptables -L ?	00:46
nickrud	Huffameg, openoffice.org-style-default and openoffice.org-style-crystal , install those	00:46
niuq	nickrud: ok ok	00:46
niuq	nickrud: the last option didn't work	00:46
Jan`	proqesi: Yeah, I got that impression.	00:46
hwilde	KlrSpz, without a router u mean? just get a router why waste months	00:46
NMajik	I have a number of computers on my network running ubuntu, I did a port scan of my network and found a number of ports I don't remember being open before. The ports aren't consistent between computers and none of them have a common application with any of these ports as default. Should I be concerned that my networked has been hacked?	00:46
proqesi	ubotu: tell vishal about cups	00:46
KlrSpz	why interrupt me with comments that don't help with my situation?	00:46
hwilde	NMajik, what ports and what programs	00:46
ompaul	kloeri, ya	00:46
vishal	proqesi: Thanks	00:46
ompaul	KlrSpz, ya	00:46
samuel_	Folks a little question if here's any Fluxbox users... how do I get it to work? Currently, when I try to run it (by tying 'fluxbox' in ternima) I get an error saying there's already another window manager running. Do I need to delete KDE window manager (kwin) at first?	00:47
compwiz18	Can you have multiple gpg keys for one email address?	00:47
rkj	Can somebody help me configure a second monitor for my Dell laptop (which came with Ubuntu 7.04 pre-installed)?	00:47
proqesi	Jan`: what I used to prefer was to read from the HFS+, but not write to it. FAT worked well for r/w from both OSes	00:47
Huffameg	nickrud: which codes do i use to install..?	00:47
kyu_flux	anyone know why a) the time zone doesn't stick in the "Adjust Date/Time" (panel), or b) I get "NTP support is not installed" when I try to set the configuration to "keep synchronized with Internet servers"?	00:47
danbhtwo	samuel_ I think you have to pick it at use login	00:47
nickrud	samuel_, log out, and under the options button there's a sessions option: choose flux there	00:47
Jan`	proqesi: I only need to read the HFS+, yes.	00:47
compwiz18	samuel_: logout, then at the login window poke around (can't remember exactly) there will be a fluxbox option	00:47
KlrSpz	ompaul: http://www.pastebin.org/13267	00:47
stansmith	Has anyone been able to install Gutsy on an intel p35 chipset (mobo)	00:47
stansmith	?	00:47
hwilde	KlrSpz, well what exactly is your problem? just follow this step by step guide http://www.howtoforge.com/nat_iptables	00:47
Jan`	there are two major problems, however.	00:48
samuel_	alrighty, thanks for the answers	00:48
Jan`	I can't use a Mac to copy the files to a FAT32 volume, because the files (actually just one) is very very big.	00:48
mete	I've just setted up the nfs-kernel-server and have configured one share. Now I want to connect from a win box to this share, but it asks me for a PW. why? here is my config file: http://pastebin.us/?show=m20f3f103	00:48
Jan`	Bigger than FAT32 will handle.	00:48
nickrud	Huffameg, you can install those with system->admin->synaptic , or sudo aptitude install openoffice.org-style-default openoffice.org-style-crystal in a terminal	00:48
NMajik	hwilde: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49918/ is my condensed version of the nmap scan where I only show affected computers and ports that I know I didn't open myself	00:48
Jan`	And I can't use a mac to copy the files to a FAT32 volume because... I don't have a mac.	00:48
Jan`	If I had a mac, I'd just network it across.	00:48
niuq	nickrud:couldnt find anything there	00:48
danbhtwo	Huffameg try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^	00:48
coreyo	can someone tell me where to look to diagnose a problem with no direct rendering? I have checked my xorg logs and everything seems to be initializing without any error messages there. I have also turned on verbose debugging mode for glxinfo and found nothing. Where else might I turn?	00:49
Anubyss	FYI, for who ever needs it, here's a link to creative labs opensource: http://opensource.creative.com/soundcard.html	00:49
soulrider	hello, this may sound stupid, but what can i use to resize an animated GIF ?	00:49
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nickrud	niuq, http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/739	00:49
KlrSpz	soulrider: you ahve to do each frame, don't know any linux tools for that sorry	00:49
proqesi	Jan`: in cases like that you can use dd to break the file into pieces and cat to put them back together	00:49
LimCore	is there some secret option or way to stop the fact one can daily(!) find critical bugs in ubuntu?	00:49
katakaio	coreyo: That's a problem that we've been working on for some time	00:49
soulrider	kloeri, you sure? =/	00:49
katakaio	I don't know if there's an easy solution	00:49
rodolfo	nickrud: one question	00:50
danbhtwo	LimCore what?	00:50
proqesi	Jan`: but what works even better is copying the files onto another machine or device	00:50
ewook	LimCore: Add to buglist - I know that you know how to, and stop whining :)	00:50
* nickrud wonders what criteria is being used to define critical		00:50
Jan`	proqesi: Under Windows?	00:50
nickrud	rodolfo, sure	00:50
proqesi	Jan`: under any OS, including windows	00:50
Jan`	You see the problem here.	00:50
hwilde	NMajik, paste the output of this command please "netstat -apt"	00:50
Jan`	I'm stuffed every way I turn.	00:50
katakaio	coreyo: This is a good place to start: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582873&page=3	00:50
nickrud	LimCore, and be sure it's not already filed if you can	00:51
Jan`	So the Linux approach solves many problems.	00:51
KlrSpz	ompaul: here's the scrip ti'm using to make this a bit easier: http://www.pastebin.org/13270	00:51
proqesi	Jan`: it's no different on Windows.. you set up sshd on it	00:51
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KlrSpz	hwilde: that's basically what i'm doing, check that scirpt i just pasted	00:51
ewook	LimCore: and a default font isn't really critical in that manner, now is it?	00:51
rodolfo	nickrud: take a look at the link i just posted here...it says "compizconfig-settings-manager (0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1) [universe]"	00:51
NMajik	hwilde: Do you want that from every one of the affected computers?	00:51
Madpilot	LimCore, I'm with nickrud - please define 'critical'...	00:51
Jan`	proqesi: Yes, fine, whatever, lovely, but the fact remains that I need a computer capable of reading the HFS+ disk and this I do not have.	00:51
rodolfo	nickrud: so its supposed to be on the universe repo, isnt it?	00:51
proqesi	Jan`: linux has been reading HFS+ perfectly for five years now	00:52
Jan`	If someone can confirm to me that I can install the latest version of Ubuntu on a desktop PC, plug the firewire disk in and have a window pop up with its contents, great.	00:52
juan	is there a workaround for the conflict between xserver-xgl and nvidia-settings?	00:52
nickrud	rodolfo, yes	00:52
Jan`	If not, I'll go buy a Mac Mini off Ebay.	00:52
Jan`	:)	00:52
KlrSpz	ompaul: hwilde: that's amodified script from the tlp masquerade howto	00:52
KlrSpz	mostly comments removed	00:52
coreyo	katakaio, if it helps, I have an intel 965 chipset. Was having opengl/mesa/driver problems with the gutsy packages, so I compiled all of these from scratch and installed them: http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/index.html Now everything is working, except that glxinfo shows me no direct rendering, and games like tuxracer and planeshift run reaaaallly slowly.	00:52
hwilde	NMajik, umm just one with the ports open	00:53
proqesi	Jan`: why not boot the livecd and see for yourself?	00:53
Jan`	proqesi: I had no idea there was one.	00:53
KlrSpz	hmm.. i wonder if i have it backwards? hmmm	00:53
rkj	Any suggestions for getting my second monitor to work?	00:53
Jan`	That is an interesting idea though.	00:53
NMajik	hwilde: Ok, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49919/ Let me know if you want more	00:53
sorak1701	anybody here familiar with the device detection process? im having an issue with a joystick driver not being loaded properly and looking for troubleshooting options	00:53
Jan`	Especially if... it can write to NTFS disks?	00:53
hatter	should a usb camera plugged in and detected create a new video device ? /dev/video2 for instance ?	00:54
nickrud	Jan`, yes it can	00:54
astro76	Jan`, yes 7.10 will write to ntfs out of the box	00:54
ompaul	KlrSpz, it all looks nice and straight forward, however I don't see where the other machines are on that network that you are talking with or to so I can't see why the box is trying to do nat except via wireless and the big question is this can you surf to a web server on the ubuntu box from some wireless connection	00:54
Jan`	Oooo.	00:54
hwilde	NMajik, ok you see where it says local address 616 that is port 616. it is process PID 4677 and the program name is "rpc.mountd"	00:54
Jan`	Since when was the NTFS write support not "highly experimental?"	00:54
katakaio	coreyo: That does help - all of my research has been for my intel 945 chipset, which should be similar. You might like this link too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3825086#post3825086	00:54
ompaul	KlrSpz, to prove you are getting the wireless connection	00:54
astro76	Jan`, it's the new ntfs-3g driver	00:54
hwilde	!fuse \| Jan`	00:54
ubotu	Jan`: FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE. Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems	00:54
nickrud	Jan`, unfortunately it doesn't talk to new ipods though	00:54
KlrSpz	ompaul: yes, wireless is working fine	00:54
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KlrSpz	ompaul: but i think i was stupid and mixed up the interfaces in that script.. lemme switch and try	00:55
katakaio	coreyo: Try this - check to see if direct rendering is on when logged in as root	00:55
Jan`	Christ on a bike	00:55
coreyo	katakaio, thank you, I am reviewing the posts now	00:55
Jan`	Do you speak English?	00:55
Moduliz0r	how do I compile to win32 from under linux (g++)	00:55
ompaul	!language \| Jan`	00:55
ubotu	Jan`: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	00:55
danbhtwo	!enter \| Jan`	00:55
ubotu	Jan`: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	00:55
nickrud	oh, and Jan` welcome to #ubuntu anyway :)	00:55
katakaio	I found that direct rendering was listed as on when I was logged in as root, but not as any other user	00:55
nonfake	jezuz... My ubuntu instalation is driving me nuts	00:55
hwilde	KlrSpz, other ppl have the same question check this forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257629	00:56
danbhtwo	lol	00:56
magic_ninja	what are some other alternatives to idesk	00:56
NMajik	hwilde: OK, should I be concerned? This computer has been up for 42 days; is there a way to tell when that process started?	00:56
nonfake	jezuz... My ubuntu instalation is driving me nuts	00:56
proqesi	nonfake: really? same 'ol same 'ol here	00:56
Jan`	What on earth did I say that wasn't family friendly, anyway?	00:56
juan	anybody with an nvidia card able to use 'nvidia-settings' after installing xgl?	00:56
hwilde	NMajik, ps -ef	00:56
proqesi	Jan`: I think you earned a pg-13 rating	00:56
hwilde	NMajik, or to just see that one ps -ef \| grep 4677	00:56
sorak1701	looking for help with a joystick device... any takers? ive done my homework	00:57
nonfake	udevd-event[2191] abnormal exit <------------ What is this?????????	00:57
Moduliz0r	How do I compile for Win32 (with g++) under Ubuntu?	00:57
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nickrud	juan, you mean you installed xserver-xgl ?	00:57
KlrSpz	hwilde: will read.. i'll hav eto look over the script to see if my stuff differs any	00:57
Jan`	I'm googling for info here and I keep finding lines like this: ppc-sources-benh-2.4-21-r2 has hfsplus support in kernel.	00:57
Jan`	What does that actually mean?	00:57
nonfake	udevd-event[2191] abnormal exit <------------ What is this?????????	00:57
astro76	!info mingw32 \| Moduliz0r	00:57
ubotu	moduliz0r: mingw32: Minimalist GNU win32 (cross) compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.5.20060117.1.dfsg-3 (gutsy), package size 11428 kB, installed size 53656 kB	00:57
NMajik	hwilde: Apparently started on Nov 15. Any cause for concern?	00:58
Jan`	I mean they're talking about Gentoo there, I think, but does that mean it supports it or not?	00:58
Moduliz0r	thanks, ill give it a go	00:58
Dr_willis	the ppc kernel has hfspluse filesystem allready in the kernel Jan`	00:58
hwilde	NMajik, it is NFS support listening for NFS connections. did you install this, do you want it running? http://linux.die.net/man/8/rpc.mountd	00:58
Dr_willis	Jan`, its inlcuded. :) i guess you can say.	00:58
ompaul	Jan`, this is not a gentoo support location so why is that of interest to here?	00:58
Moduliz0r	how do I do the compile when I have MinGW32 installed?	00:58
juan	nickrud: yeah, for compiz	00:58
Jan`	ompaul: Uh... I was asking about HFS+ support generally. Why?	00:58
nonfake	anyone??????????????????????? i want to install ubuntu	00:58
hwilde	KlrSpz, just back yours up and go through their example to see if you have a bug or a config issue. if their config works just modify it to your preference	00:59
proqesi	Jan`: it means that ben herrenschmidt had his own version of the kernel with hfsplus support. in the last 3-5 versions of ubuntu it's already in the kernel	00:59
Jan`	What does "in the kernel" mean?	00:59
mete	I've just setted up the nfs-kernel-server and have configured one share. Now I want to connect from a win box to this share, but it asks me for a PW. why? here is my config file: http://pastebin.us/?show=m20f3f103	00:59
Huffameg	nickrud: it worked. thanks.	00:59
coreyo	katakaio, nope, no DRI as root. I guess that means it's not a permissions problem?	00:59
proqesi	Jan`: he made his own changes to the linux kernel	00:59
NMajik	hwilde: Must have. Thanks for your help. I'm going to go through the other computers to ease my mind.	00:59
Jan`	proqesi: Who? Why?	00:59
* Jan` is confused		00:59
nonfake	udevd-event[2191] abnormal exit <------------ What is this?????????	00:59
ompaul	!Jan` (not saying you are but this is why it is of interest - i.e. this channel is specific to ubuntu )	00:59
ubotu	I'll remember that, ompaul	00:59
danbhtwo	Jan` if linux has a driver for something/ supports something, its in the kernel	00:59
nonfake	anyone??????????????????????? i want to install ubuntu	00:59
proqesi	Jan`: Ben Herrenschmidt	01:00
LjL	nonfake: care to not spam? thanks.	01:00
LjL	!install > nonfake (nonfake, see the private message from Ubotu)	01:00
Jan`	proqesi: what's he got to do with anything?!	01:00
ompaul	!offtopic \| Jan` (not saying you are but this is why it is of interest - i.e. this channel is specific to ubuntu )	01:00
ubotu	Jan` (not saying you are but this is why it is of interest - i.e. this channel is specific to ubuntu ): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!	01:00
Jan`	Auuugh!	01:00
hwilde	NMajik, run netstat to find out what program is using each port then just google it	01:00
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Moduliz0r	why is the bot called ubotu? Couldn't it just be ubot?	01:00
nickrud	quit picking on Jan` if you read back he mentioned that he only saw this relating to gentoo, wanted to see if it was true here	01:00
proqesi	Jan`: <Jan`> I'm googling for info here and I keep finding lines like this: ppc-sources-benh-2.4-21-r2 has hfsplus support in kernel. What does that mean?	01:00
NMajik	hwilde: I assume they're all the same thing; they all are running NFS. Thanks again	01:00
katakaio	coreyo: Hmm. The command I used was "glxinfo \| grep render" to see if DR was on or not . . . did you do the same or something different?	01:01
proqesi	Jan`: I was answering your question	01:01
Jan`	nickrud: It's short for Janine :)	01:01
Dr_willis	nonfake, you may want to clarifyt what you are doing, and what cd/version/machine you are installing to. If the live cd is giving you problems. You may want to try the alternative install cd.	01:01
LimCore	Madpilot: critical: application crash, or basic function do not work	01:01
nickrud	Jan`, I used the neuter he :)	01:01
mete	hwilde, ah, you're using or understanding nfs? can you help with my prob? :P	01:01
Jan`	OK. I'm completely confused now. Let's start again.	01:01
hwilde	mete, I know that when you run netstat and it says rpc.mountd that is nfs http://linux.die.net/man/8/rpc.mountd	01:01
* Jan` pours liquid nitrogen into top of head		01:02
hwilde	Jan`, state your question in one line or less.	01:02
proqesi	Jan`: ok. let's. ubuntu has HFS+ support built-in.	01:02
Moduliz0r	Right, I've installed mingw32, how do I compile a simple c++ file for Win32?	01:02
mete	hwilde, ah, hehe :)	01:02
proqesi	Jan`: that should be enough info for you	01:02
coreyo	katakaio, right, that's what I used	01:02
rkj	Anyone care to give me some suggestions on how to successfully configure a second monitor?	01:02
hwilde	!xinerama \| rkj	01:02
ubotu	rkj: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead	01:02
Dr_willis	Moduliz0r, perhaps check the mingw32 web site? or homepage?	01:02
mete	hwilde do you know if anywhere is a nfs channel? I can't find one :(	01:02
hwilde	!dualhead \| rkj	01:02
ubotu	rkj: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama	01:02
Jan`	Easy yes or no question: if I install Ubuntu on this (windows currently) computer, plug this HFS disk in, and plug the network in, will I be able to transfer data from the drive to NTFS volumes on other Windows PCs?	01:02
Moduliz0r	ok	01:02
hwilde	mete, lol there isn't one what are you trying to do	01:02
proqesi	Jan`: yes	01:02
Moduliz0r	!info mingw32 >moduliz0r	01:02
NMajik	hwilde: I might have spoken too soon. Here is the line from another computer from netstat -apt: tcp 0 0 :1016 :* LISTEN -	01:03
NMajik	hwilde: No PID listed	01:03
Jan`	proqesi: Cool. Supplementary question: will I have to compile software, hack obscure text files, and generally do non-normal-user, outside-the-gui things to make this happen?	01:03
katakaio	coreyo: OK then, looks like my issue is a permissions problem :P	01:03
coreyo	katakaio, actually, the stock setup for gutsy worked very well except that eve-online and planeshift both crashed due to some problem between mesa/kernel driver/xorg driver	01:03
mete	hwilde: I try to share one folder, which I can access from a windows client (without password). smb doesn't work for me	01:03
hatter	aptitude is recommended over apt-get now isn't it ?	01:03
sonja	does ubuntu come with a font that looks really legible at 5 pixels high and no antialias?	01:04
katakaio	Are you using the intel driver for your 965 chipset?	01:04
nickrud	hatter, by debian anyway	01:04
katakaio	Whopps, that answers that	01:04
coreyo	katakaio, aye, intel	01:04
proqesi	Jan`: no	01:04
Jan`	proqesi: Install software. Plug in drive. Plug in network. Drag and drop. That easy?	01:04
coreyo	katakaio, I have both the mesa libs, the drm libs and kernel modules, and the xorg driver compiled from the latest source right now.	01:04
hwilde	NMajik, sudo netstat -evap \| grep 1016	01:05
danbhtwo	o m g Jan` just try it	01:05
NMajik	hwilde: Scratch that cue me feeling dumb, I forgot to run it as root	01:05
katakaio	coreyo: I don't have any first-hand experience with this, but I know some guys with 945/965 chipsets like reverting to the i810 driver	01:05
hwilde	!smb \| mete	01:05
ubotu	mete: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.	01:05
Jan`	danbhtwo: It'll take a day and a half to try it. I would like to have some idea that it's feasible (for me) before I commit to that :)	01:05
katakaio	Especially when they're crashing out programs or having compatibility issues	01:05
NMajik	hwilde: It is, as expected, 4229/rpc.mountd	01:05
hatter	nickrud, not by ubuntu ?	01:05
danbhtwo	Jan` why would it take so long? just install ubuntu, dual boot, and see if it works	01:05
hwilde	NMajik, netstat is your friend	01:06
Jan`	danbhtwo: Install ubuntu is half a day right there.	01:06
danbhtwo	jan` or use the live cd	01:06
nickrud	hatter, ubuntu recommends synaptic	01:06
mete	ubotu I've used samba, but it's to slow for me (troughtput never over 50mb/s on a GBit net), so now I'll have a try to NFS	01:06
mete	ops xD	01:06
NMajik	hwilde: I really should get to know it better	01:06
Dr_willis	half a day? Hmm... thats MS thinking!@ :0	01:06
danbhtwo	Jan` it doesnt take me that long to install, its not like windows	01:06
Jan`	Live CD is an interesting idea, but I am not quite sure I trust it not to trash my windows install while it works.	01:06
danbhtwo	AT ALL	01:06
coreyo	katakaio, it was my experience that the i815 wasn't working on the 965, I guess I could try again now that I recompiled it	01:06
Dr_willis	the live cd tends to play it safe by default.	01:06
Jack-it	hi, someone succesfully installed kde4 on ubuntu hardy? i optain a libgif4 conflict	01:06
mete	hwilde: I've used samba, but it's to slow for me (troughtput never over 50mb/s on a GBit net), so now I'll have a try to NFS	01:06
hwilde	mete, waht exactly do u want to do it is so easy	01:07
hatter	mete, you find samba slow ?	01:07
hwilde	mete, just use scp or ftp or read the ntfs system from linux there are plenty of ways to move files	01:07
Jan`	Dr_willis: I assume it needs some sort of disk to work on.	01:07
proqesi	Jan`: I don't trust any software, especially windows, with my data. hence making backups	01:07
mete	hatter: yes, it's slow :)	01:07
Jan`	There are no disks in this computer I am happy letting Linux write to.	01:07
Dr_willis	Jan`, the live cd? Nope - it dosent.	01:07
Jan`	So.	01:07
katakaio	coreyo: You're right, and I think the people who use it have recompiled it. But I should warn you, I don't really know what I'm talking about - never dared to do it myself	01:07
Dr_willis	Jan`, I use them in mechines with no HD at all.	01:07
rkj	hwilde: I'm reading, thanks. Do you know how I can determine what kind of video card & driver I have? (It's a Dell laptop that came with Feisty pre-installed)	01:07
hwilde	Jan`, you can install and boot from a usb pendrive	01:07
proqesi	Jan`: so don't trust it	01:07
hatter	mete, you're not using a realtek chip are you ?	01:08
katakaio	If you feel lucky, give it a whirl	01:08
hwilde	rkj, lspci -v	01:08
mete	hwilde: I use intel chips (pcie)	01:08
danbhtwo	help! scrollkeeper-update is eating up ALL my cpu	01:08
danbhtwo	!scrollkeep-update	01:08
disasterpiece	hmm	01:08
hwilde	mete, but you are trying to move a file from one place to another? why do u need samba it is so easy	01:08
Jan`	Is the live CD on the Ubuntu site	01:08
proqesi	Jan`: yes	01:09
Jan`	or is it a product of some... other organisation.	01:09
hwilde	danbhtwo, open up a terminal. type in kill -9 `pidof scrollkeeper-update`	01:09
proqesi	Jan`: no	01:09
disasterpiece	i have a simple question about ubunto, do i ask here? or is there a line of some sort?	01:09
Dr_willis	hehheh.. gotta love lagged yes/no questions. :)	01:09
hwilde	!ask \| disasm	01:09
ubotu	disasm: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	01:09
Dr_willis	Yes - its on the site.. no its not by someone else..	01:09
hwilde	!ask \| disasterpiece	01:09
ubotu	disasterpiece: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	01:09
ironfoot	how dou uninstall in ubuntu 7.10?	01:09
hwilde	ironfoot, download the cd from the website	01:09
proqesi	ironfoot: uninstall what?	01:10
Jan`	only one search result for livecd on ubuntu.com	01:10
Dr_willis	ironfoot, fire up the package manager, click the installed package.	01:10
Jan`	and it's not relevant	01:10
disasterpiece	how does ubuntu handle games? such as quake2, WoW?	01:10
Jan`	Um.	01:10
ironfoot	pro rails	01:10
mete	hwilde: I've ~5clients, and these are connected to 3 GBit cards... and the throughtput of samba is to slow... (video editing on the network)	01:10
hwilde	!ubuntu \| Jan`	01:10
ubotu	Jan`: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com	01:10
CrackHed	I'm running Gusty with all updates and when I go to Places>Network Servers. I then see the Windows Network icon. I click on that and see the Homenet icon. I click on the Homenet icon and get an error message: The contents of this folder could not be displayed. Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: homenet".	01:10
Madpilot	Jan`, it's called the Desktop CD now	01:10
CrackHed	I've read that this is a known bug, is there a fix available?	01:10
astro76	disasterpiece, there is a native quake2 client, wow reportedly works excellently with wine	01:10
Jan`	Madpilot: Arrgh.	01:10
proqesi	Jan`: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/	01:10
hwilde	mete, where is the video stored, what are the filesystems, and what are the OS's	01:10
Madpilot	Jan`, it used to be called the LiveCD; lots of us still use the term. Sorry to confuse you!	01:10
Dr_willis	The desktop cd is a live cd :)	01:11
disasterpiece	astro76, works perfectly with "wine"?	01:11
ironfoot	Dr_willis: ok thanx	01:11
Onyx	I'm trying to install (required for qtruby)... how can I do that?	01:11
disasterpiece	what is that?	01:11
Dr_willis	Theres the Kubuntu and Ubuntu variants.	01:11
Jan`	Madpilot: LiveCD is a term even I am familiar with.	01:11
astro76	!wine \| disasterpiece	01:11
ubotu	disasterpiece: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.	01:11
arkanes	I'm looking for an 802.11 USB dongle that's known to work out of the box with gutsy, does anyone have any make/model reccomendations?	01:11
Dr_willis	and proberly other variants also.	01:11
danbhtwo	hwilde thanks	01:11
astro76	disasterpiece, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft	01:11
tehpunkprodigy	does anybody know how I can make a program run on startup as root?	01:11
Madpilot	Jan`, yeah, I've never been really sure why Ubuntu stopped using the term. I guess "Desktop" CD is slightly more user-friendly...	01:11
danbhtwo	hwilde it keeps coming back	01:12
Jan`	OK. This puter has an Athlon 64 X2 processor. I'm guessing I want "64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD".	01:12
mete	hwilde: server: ubuntu 7.10 server, FS: xfs clients: XP the videos are stored on the xfs raid5	01:12
proqesi	Jan`: yes	01:12
* Jan` downloads		01:12
wols	Jan`: how much ram do you have?	01:12
Jan`	wols: 2Gb. why?	01:12
Madpilot	Jan`, possibly. 64bit still has some issues, mostly iwth Flash and other commercial things. 32bit is often easier.	01:12
hwilde	danbhtwo, did you just install? let it run the first time	01:12
Jan`	Aaargh!	01:12
wols	then you want i386 unless you like problems with flash and java	01:12
* Jan` stops downloading		01:12
disasterpiece	astro, thank you very much.	01:12
proqesi	Madpilot: you can run flash on 64-bit ubuntu after some tweaking	01:13
Jan`	<yelling>which one do I want!</yelling>	01:13
danbhtwo	hwilde yeah, its during an install	01:13
Madpilot	proqesi, sure, but it's the 'after some tweaking' part that's a pain.	01:13
danbhtwo	hwilde maybe it was a mistake to kill it	01:13
wols	Jan`: it>s your decision	01:13
Madpilot	Jan`, get the 32bit version for now.	01:13
hwilde	danbhtwo, do you even know what it is ?! http://linux.die.net/man/8/scrollkeeper-update	01:13
* Jan` downloads 32 bit version		01:13
Jan`	Now see I don't want to be a hater, really I don't. But it's exactly this sort of <expletive> that puts people off Linux.	01:13
danbhtwo	hwilde not a clue, but its back!!!	01:14
Madpilot	Jan`, 64bit issues are hardly unique to Linux - Windows has had it's share too...	01:14
hwilde	danbhtwo, let it install.... read this link while you wait... http://linux.die.net/man/8/scrollkeeper-update	01:14
Jan`	Do I need to protectively unplug all my windows disks from the puter before using this thing, or can I trust it not to dump all over them?	01:15
Jan`	(they contain data which is worth actual money)	01:15
Madpilot	Jan`, the liveCD won't touch your hard drives.	01:15
Dr_willis	Jan`, if thats the case - then yoyu SHOULD have backups allready.	01:15
niuq	i've just installed ubuntu 7.10 over a my laptop, everything it's working except for a strange issue, the windows border appears to big, and i dont have a clue how could i change them!	01:15
Jan`	Guaranteed?	01:15
Jan`	Dr_willis: We do, in a way, but it's a major PITA to restore the data.	01:15
arkanes	if you're paranoid unplugging them won't hurt	01:15
nickrud	Guaranteed the live cd will not write to the disks without your explicit permission	01:16
arkanes	it's always possible that you might tell the installer to format those drives in some wierd cat-related keyboard accident	01:16
Dr_willis	Jan`, what sort of Guarentee do you want... If you are that paranoid then use a test machine.	01:16
hwilde	danbhtwo, windows xp xfs driver http://www.crossmeta.com/crossmeta.html	01:16
Jan`	Dr_willis: Good idea.	01:16
mete	hwilde: do you need more infos?	01:16
Dr_willis	Or the PC may explode in a flaming ball of Flaming Fury	01:16
hwilde	danbhtwo, oops wrong person	01:16
hwilde	mete, windows xp xfs driver http://www.crossmeta.com/crossmeta.html	01:16
arkanes	and note that Ubuntu specifically disclaims any "guarantee" in the "we will pay if we screw this up" sense	01:16
nickrud	Dr_willis, nic alliteration, but too many flames :)	01:16
* Dr_willis thinks that if restoring backups is a PITA.. then one should find better Backup tools..		01:16
Jan`	arkanes: Most places do.	01:16
arkanes	of course	01:16
hwilde	Jan`, I will personally guarantee that Linux will not make your Windoze box worse.	01:16
arkanes	just saying, if thats the kind of guarantee you want, you aren't getting it	01:17
hwilde	Nothing could be worse than Windows ahhahahahahaha	01:17
Dr_willis	nickrud, i couldent spell flautlance right. :)	01:17
Jan`	Dr_willis: The issue is that it's a video edit station with several jobs on it. Those jobs can be restored using edit decision lists from the original video tape.	01:17
mete	hwilde: for what I need xfs driver? the disks aren't in this computer.... and I need they remotely, not local ;)	01:17
Jan`	This is the standard backup regime for this sort of data (which is vast).	01:17
Jan`	However it is horribly time-consuming.	01:17
PKdoR	sup peeps?	01:17
Dr_willis	sounds to me like you should be playign with other Os's on a non-critical box.	01:17
Jan`	Dr_willis: Hell yes.	01:17
PKdoR	any bodu here runing in x64	01:18
PKdoR	?	01:18
Dr_willis	go to walmart. get one of those $200 machines. :)	01:18
Jan`	Dr_willis: I'll do it on the office PC.	01:18
Jan`	That one breaks all the time anyway.	01:18
Creed	eww gPC?	01:18
Creed	Jan`, if youre just playing around with Ubuntu, why not use a virtual machine?	01:18
Oli``	In Sudoku, does generating puzzles work? I just told it to generate a batch of 10 very hard puzzle and they haven't shown up in the game list	01:18
Jan`	For what it's worth, we'd dearly dearly love to dump Windows before Adobe forces us to go to Vista by requiring it for one of their packages.	01:19
Doxa	What chat room should I go to for problems upgrading my Feisty to Gutsy?	01:19
astro76	Jan`, how are you going to replace the Adobe program(s)?	01:19
disasterpiece	astro76, what did you mean by "native quake2 client:	01:19
Oli``	Doxa: here. What's the boggle?	01:19
nickrud	Doxa, this is the place	01:19
dolphin_noel	why i'm on google for more then one hour try to search some linux dictionary translactor software and i cant get nathing yet? there are to mobil phones and everything but dont give the reserch to the linux stupid	01:19
ssss	#frontal_web	01:20
Creed	Jan`, from what I've experienced, most all programs out thus far that "require" Vista can be run fully using Alky. Im sure when more and more Vista only apps come out, more third party utilities will emerge to fix the issue.	01:20
astro76	!info quake2 \| disasterpiece	01:20
ubotu	disasterpiece: quake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB	01:20
initx	I've been searching for a way to install packages into another prefix	01:20
Doxa	basically, whenever I try to upgrade it gives me an error saying it failed to fetch a whole bunch of files.	01:20
mete	hwilde: ?	01:20
Doxa	I also have an error when I try to upgrade using the alternative installation cd	01:20
astro76	disasterpiece, meaning written or linux, open-source, and in Ubuntu's repos ;)	01:20
Creed	Doxa, are you behind a proxy?	01:20
initx	I added DPkg::Options "--root=/pkg/" in a custom apt.conf, voila, nothing	01:20
initx	any ideas?	01:21
Doxa	I'm not sure...	01:21
astro76	disasterpiece, quake2-data will grab the data files from your quake2 cd	01:21
Doxa	How would I be able to check if I am/not?	01:21
Creed	Doxa, do you have to enter any information to browse the Internet?	01:21
disasterpiece	gotcha	01:21
Jan`	what on earth is alky	01:21
astro76	disasterpiece, the data files are copyrighted, but there is shareware/open source alternatives too	01:21
Doxa	no, I'm connected on a network at home, which is always connected to the internet	01:21
Creed	Doxa, like does Gaim/Pidgin without any extra configuration (aside from account setup)	01:21
disasterpiece	i see	01:21
Creed	Doxa, please paste the full error on !pastebin	01:21
astro76	disasterpiece, with the cd it will be exactly the original game	01:22
Beererde	hi. does someone know where ubuntu has its localization info? i want to change the text in some dialogs of pidgin	01:22
disasterpiece	so just install it as if it were windows	01:22
Oli``	Doxa: It's not recommended but I used apt (instead of update-manager) to do my distro upgrade. I had similar issues to you and this fixed it although I had to run apt, then update manager and then apt again before everything was done	01:22
Doxa	Error during update	01:22
Doxa	A problem occured during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry.	01:22
Doxa	Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found	01:22
Doxa	Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found	01:22
Doxa	Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found	01:22
Doxa	Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found	01:22
Doxa	Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found	01:22
Doxa	Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found	01:22
initx	does anyone at all know how to set up a prefixed APT repository?	01:22
Doxa	Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found	01:22
Doxa	Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found	01:22
nickrud	whups	01:22
sonja	please stop	01:22
Creed	aye curamba	01:22
Jan`	waah!	01:22
Jan`	even I know not to do that	01:22
Creed	Jan`, http://alkyproject.blogspot.com/ seems their main website is down at the moment.	01:22
disasterpiece	sorry astro, i know nothing of linux	01:23
NMajik	!pastebin \| Doxz	01:23
ubotu	Doxz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	01:23
disasterpiece	but am thinking of trying ubuntu out	01:23
Oli``	Doxa: remove the medibuntu repos, upgrade and add the gutsy versions	01:23
initx	am I just not specifying DPkg::Options correctly or does apt remove that "for me" because it's not standard	01:23
Greevous	what is the use of write-protecting a hidden volume when mapping it with truecrypt?	01:23
disasterpiece	i just want to make sure the games i play will still be playable should i switch to ubuntu	01:23
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Creed	Doxa, as Oli`` said, remove the medibuntu repos or replace them with another one as the one thats currently in your sources is down.	01:23
disasterpiece	by what you're telling me. it seems they will be, and that it's pretty simple	01:24
nickrud	not just down but nonexistent, it's medibuntu.org now	01:24
Doxa	ok, so a) how do I go about doing that b) what should I replace them with	01:24
Jan`	I think the preferred solution to the "vista? aargh!" problem is for someone to release a decent video editor for linux.	01:24
Creed	disasterpiece, most old games (pre 2006) work perfect on Ubuntu using Wine or Cedega or a similair program. Quite a few new games (TF2) work beautifully as well.	01:24
etzerd	hello all	01:24
Jan`	Still.	01:24
etzerd	?	01:24
disasterpiece	awesome creed	01:24
disasterpiece	thanks	01:25
Creed	Doxa, are you planning on setting up that box as a Media Center PC?	01:25
Doxa	no, it's just my regular desktop	01:25
Oli``	Doxa: system > software sources. wang in your password. click the third party tab and uncheck the medibuntu repos.	01:25
Creed	Doxa, then you can remove the medibuntu source completly. Follow Oli`` s directions :)	01:25
nickrud	Doxa, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list , delete the lines with sos-sst.com	01:25
Jan`	Hardy Heron. Snicker.	01:25
Doxa	Ok, thank you all.	01:26
Doxa	What are the mediabuntu repos good for anyway?	01:26
* Pelo waves hello to the ppl in the room		01:26
Oli``	Doxa: you'd probably be best to just remove them completely and add the gutsy version after you've upgraded	01:26
Doxa	I mean, why do I have them in the first place?	01:26
Dmitry_	could someone provide an address for a guide that covers the installation of a wired router (preferably SmartAX MT882) in ubuntu?	01:26
etzerd	I buy a new computer which is an Intel coreduo 2 2.66 with an onboard 1Ghz network card. I tried to reinstall ubuntu the installation failed at the very beginning because it cannot detected the network card.	01:26
astro76	!medibuntu \| Doxa	01:26
ubotu	Doxa: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org	01:26
Creed	Jan`, better name than the one being distribued at my campus...Hardy Hardon	01:26
* nickrud waves back		01:26
Oli``	Doxa: they contain non-free codecs and the like	01:26
Doxa	Got it	01:26
Doxa	Mp3's and divx and stuff	01:26
Doxa	Now I remember. :-D	01:26
Creed	Doxa, yup	01:26
Doxa	thank you all very very much.	01:26
Pelo	etzerd, use the alternate install cd	01:26
Oli``	Doxa: worth having but not essential to upgrade	01:27
Doxa	right, I'll just add them again afterwards.	01:27
etzerd	that is what I'm using.	01:27
Doxa	Thanks again very much	01:27
Creed	Doxa, if you need support for all those simply switch out the sos repo with a more updated/working one. medibuntu.org website should have extra repos you can try.	01:27
nickrud	!medibuntu \| Doxa	01:27
ubotu	Doxa: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org	01:27
Pelo	etzerd, interesting usualy the alt cd is less fussy about hardware	01:27
etzerd	tell me about it.	01:27
Pelo	etzerd, if you know the model of the card/chipset , try looking it up in the forum	01:28
* nickrud urges the clock along		01:28
ubuntu_	hoz do i see in the console how many hdd i have on ;my pc?	01:28
etzerd	now I cannot use ubuntu anylonger. I tried so many time without result.	01:28
disasterpiece	what kind of virus protection would you all advise?	01:28
Jan`	who picks the names	01:28
nickrud	disasterpiece, I use none	01:28
Pelo	Jan`, which names ?	01:28
Creed	Pelo, Ubuntu's release names	01:28
Jan`	Pelo: Hardy Heron. Gutsy Gibbon. Haw!	01:28
Oli``	disasterpiece: I personally fly commando (nothing) but you could go for something non-resident (scan on demand) like ClamAV if you need something	01:29
disasterpiece	i see	01:29
disasterpiece	i'm guessing it's much more secure being linux based	01:29
astro76	disasterpiece, there is absolutely no need for virus protection, unless you are serving windows clients	01:29
Pelo	disasterpiece, there aren'T significant virues treaths for linux but if you want to protect your windows friends by not passing along virues to them you can try clamtk or there is a nice linux version from the avast ppl	01:29
nickrud	disasterpiece, unless you're hosting mail or some such for windows machines, you don't really need anti-virus	01:29
Oli``	disasterpiece: exactly	01:29
Pelo	Jan`, the ppl at canonical, they make ubuntu	01:29
Creed	disasterpiece, if you dont use programs like limewire or go to "shady" websites, you really dont have a need for AV software (aside from on-demand to scan once a month jsut to be on the safe side)	01:30
etzerd	so nobody can help me with that?	01:30
disasterpiece	gotcha	01:30
disasterpiece	well	01:30
Oli``	Here's an interesting question... Can WINE get viruses/malware?	01:30
Pelo	etzerd, if you know the model of the card/chipset , try looking it up in the forum	01:30
disasterpiece	i'm installing it right now on another machine, i'll chill here if i need more help!	01:30
disasterpiece	thanks all :D	01:30
Jan`	Oli``: well... presumably...	01:30
Creed	disasterpiece, I use windows xp as my main os and have been without any virus or spyware for over 3 years, wont get anything unless youre trying to heh	01:30
Pelo	Oli``, I saw an article on diggs from someone who tested it and the viruses didn'T run well on wine	01:31
etzerd	OK, thanks	01:31
Creed	Oli``, yup, Wine gets em just like windows :) i played around with it on a VM to see	01:31
Pelo	etzerd, this might also be helpfull https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport	01:31
etzerd	thanks Pelo	01:31
Creed	Oli``, some depend on certain parts of windwos to fully work though, so most just chilled on my hardrive doing nothing	01:31
Creed	i came here to ask a question and ended up helping others >< now i dont remember my question...damn helpful nature of mine	01:32
KlrSpz	lol	01:32
KlrSpz	i hate that	01:32
Pelo	Creed, welcome to my words, 1 year 2 months running	01:32
Creed	lol yah	01:32
Creed	haha	01:32
x_zeuss	hi, need some help guys. i've just installed flash player but it just doesn't work, when i enter a site that has flash that pop-up windows appears that says plugins are needed, but when i click install flash it says that that package is allready installed	01:33
crimsun	see the topic.	01:33
Creed	x_zeuss, Adobe Flash plugin installation is currently broken, see « /msg ubotu flash »	01:33
KlrSpz	x_zeuss: unistall flash and re-install, see if it actually is installing properly.. there's a bug	01:33
x-X-x	when i install an application through add/remove programs where does it install to ?	01:34
Oli``	Is anyone else here running the latest public release of flash (9.0 r115) and find its flv-playback performance just blows bigtime?	01:34
Madpilot	x-X-x, whereever it need to be	01:34
stdin	same place as if you install with synaptic	01:34
x_zeuss	KlrSpz: i reinstalled, no problem there, installed perfectilly but nothing	01:35
KlrSpz	x_zeuss: sure it didn't say near the bottom about an md5 checksum err?	01:35
kazol	I cannot get sound capture to work on my sound card.	01:35
KlrSpz	Gnea: you around?	01:35
Pelo	x-X-x, you don't need to know the path to run an app in linux, just type hte name of it in the terminal or check in the menues, but to answer your questons, it gets installed all over the place, the exectutable files themselves are usualy in /bin /sbin /usr/bin or /usr/sbin	01:35
KlrSpz	do a "which <app>" to find the path	01:35
Creed	this wga strike better end soon, im running out of things to watch	01:36
KlrSpz	(of the binary)	01:36
x_zeuss	KlrSpz: no	01:36
owner10010101	where can i get divx codec for ubuntu 7.10	01:36
Pelo	kazol, opem alsamixer in the terminal and make sure that the mic isn't muted	01:36
KlrSpz	owner10010101: check the gstreamer plugins	01:36
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Pelo	!codecs \| owner10010101	01:36
ubotu	owner10010101: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	01:36
x-X-x	kk its becouse i installed 7zip and i want to make it the default app to handle zip files and i cant find it	01:36
rkj	hwilde: I've been reading the links you sent me on duel displays - one concern is that once I configure for two displays how do I go back when I go somewhere with my laptop?	01:36
Optimus55	does anyone know how to change the cursors in ubuntu? when i right click the desktop and change them in customize, they only change inside certain windows..	01:36
x-X-x	btw is 7zip better than archive manager ?	01:36
crimsun	remember that if you codec enumerates a 'Capture' element, too, you need to unmute that as well.	01:37
crimsun	if your*	01:37
KlrSpz	rkj, he's gone	01:37
Pelo	x-X-x, the 7zip files will be handled throught file roller, I dm not sure that you have a seperate interface for it	01:37
x-X-x	k	01:37
rkj	bummer, anybody else know about dual monitors?	01:37
x-X-x	so does 7zip take over automatically and whats file roller ?	01:37
KlrSpz	rkj, and if you set your laptop display as your primary then you have no problem and the 2nd monitor won't initialize	01:37
Pelo	!dualhead \| rkj	01:38
ubotu	rkj: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama	01:38
x_zeuss	KlrSpz: any ideea?	01:38
KlrSpz	but i'm out too, later	01:38
Pelo	x-X-x, fileroller is the archive manager, 7zip is jsut a format	01:38
grout	Anyone have a .deb file for doomsday?	01:38
astro76	x-X-x, file roller is the built in archive manager, it will use 7zip and rar if installed	01:38
Pelo	grout, check in www.getdeb.net	01:38
x-X-x	kk thanx btw have i made a good decision is 7zip better than what archive manager hgad before ?	01:39
x-X-x	had*	01:39
grout	pelo: nothing came up :(	01:39
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Eyemean	hi does any1 know if there is a difference between amsn 0.97RC and amsn 0.97 pls?	01:39
astro76	x-X-x, for zip? 7z?	01:39
x_zeuss	anyone know why flash player doesn't work?	01:39
Pelo	x-X-x, never tried it , 7zip is just a format , just use the one you want from those available in file roller	01:39
x-X-x	yes	01:39
rkj	KlrSpz: ok thanks, also the Xinerama HowTo mentions a program called i810switch, and when I ran it got the error message "PCI id of i810 is not recognized"	01:39
Eyemean	x_zeuss u have to install flash	01:39
Pelo	x_zeuss, broken installler, get the tar from the adobe site	01:40
PKdoR	is there any thing I would miss out on by runing 64bit ubuntu?	01:40
astro76	x-X-x, well it's gonna use it for 7z obviously, but for zip it probably still uses the normal zip library	01:40
qwaz	how do you clear the command line history?	01:40
larson9999	x_zeuss, you mean as discribed in the topic of this channel?	01:40
astro76	x-X-x, which is fine	01:40
x-X-x	kk	01:40
astro76	x-X-x, you could always use 7zip itself on the command line too	01:40
x-X-x	so installing zip was useless ?	01:40
x_zeuss	larson9999: but i was able to install just fine	01:40
x-X-x	7zip*	01:40
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x_zeuss	larson9999: no errors	01:40
Pelo	x-X-x, not if you have to unpack 7zip files	01:40
astro76	x-X-x, not really, it handles 7z and a bunch of others	01:41
larson9999	x_zeuss, yes, and then it doesn't work. and if you try to install it says it's already installed. that's the issue the topic is addressing.	01:41
x_zeuss	larson9999: ok ok, any ideea when this is going to be fixed?	01:41
x-X-x	kk thnx pelo and astro76 i just wanted to know cos on windows 7zip was like the best at handling zip files and the other formats so i was wondering if it is the best in linux	01:42
x-X-x	types*	01:42
Pelo	!best \| x-X-x	01:42
astro76	x-X-x, I always use it when I am forced to use windows too ;)	01:42
ubotu	x-X-x: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.	01:42
x-X-x	kk thnx ubotu	01:42
dario	hi	01:42
larson9999	x_zeuss, nope. but it only takes about a minute or less to download and install the tarball from adobe's site.	01:43
Pelo	!thanks \| x-X-x	01:43
ubotu	x-X-x: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)	01:43
x-X-x	lol huh?	01:43
x_zeuss	cineva ro pe aici?	01:43
dario	?	01:43
mario_	hello	01:43
x-X-x	ubotu how does that work u some new kind of ai or something ?	01:44
x-X-x	new*	01:44
Pelo	x-X-x, ubotu is a bot, we just use trigger words to get it to send automated info to users	01:44
dario	hi!	01:44
Pelo	!botsnack	01:44
ubotu	Yum! Err, I mean, APT!	01:44
Pelo	hello dario	01:44
x-X-x	k	01:44
dario	hi pelo	01:44
x-X-x	interesting	01:44
x-X-x	ubotu is so antisocial	01:45
Pelo	x-X-x, they are quite common in support channels, they keep the helpers from having to type the same info over and over	01:45
dario	...	01:46
crimsun	which, interestingly enough, they still do.	01:46
Pelo	dario, can we help you with something ?	01:46
crimsun	It's just that they type/paste the triggers instead of the entire shebangs.	01:46
Pelo	crimsun, still shorter to type	01:46
vintendo	I'm having trouble getting my Linksys WMP54G PCI adapter to work on 7.10	01:46
dario	now... im new in this thing	01:46
ewook	connect the dots? :)	01:46
Pelo	vintendo, I think linksis are broadcom chipset or someting , look up the model in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org	01:47
x-X-x	i need support for .lzh compressed what do i need to download ?	01:47
Pelo	x-X-x, try one in fileroller, it might already be there	01:47
x-X-x	archive manager says archive not supported pelo	01:48
Pelo	x-X-x, open synaptic, menu > system> admin> synaptic package manager, search for lzh see wat comes up	01:49
disasterpiece	hey how does ubuntu work with raid? well?	01:49
haygus	hi	01:49
Pelo	disasterpiece, as fars as I know, you do need to do a bit of stuff to install on it , and use the alternate install cd	01:49
Pelo	!raid \| disasterpiece	01:49
ubotu	disasterpiece: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto	01:49
Pelo	hello haygus	01:49
spaceghost_	can someone please tell me what package(s) I need to install to play youtube video in browser?	01:50
haygus	i have some problems im french so if i make some mistakes (errors ?) in my language sorry	01:50
pteague	last pieces of my xmas box showed up	01:50
Pelo	spaceghost_, flash but currently the installer is broken, go to the adobe site and dl the tar.gz , follow the installariotn instructions in it	01:50
x-X-x	pelo: file-roller has a green box and the other 4 things listed are empty	01:51
Pelo	haygus, there is a ferench channel, #ubuntu-fr	01:51
Pelo	x-X-x, just check them	01:51
haygus	i know, but nobody answer	01:51
spaceghost_	pelo: ty	01:51
Pelo	haygus, ask away	01:51
ewook	Pelo: there is other flashies than adobe's.	01:51
qcode	pteague: I'm still waiting for my last two	01:51
x-X-x	which one lha ? gnomekiss ? sdic-gene95 ? timidity ?	01:51
x-X-x	pelo	01:52
Pelo	ewook, gnash but it is still being develloped, check in synaptic	01:52
pteague	qcode> what'd you get?	01:52
Pelo	x-X-x, all of them	01:52
haygus	http://haygus.free.fr/K/capture1.png	01:52
qcode	pteague: Tools and books	01:52
Pelo	haygus, it is usualy better to state the problem the post a link	01:52
haygus	its a pictures	01:52
haygus	for my probleme	01:53
Pelo	haygus, I know , that is the actual problem	01:53
pteague	mine were an 8600gts 512mb & 2x 19" monitors	01:53
haygus	on the right bottom	01:53
grout	Anyone have a .deb file for doomsday?	01:53
ewook	Pelo: swf-player then?	01:53
haygus	applications icons are align	01:53
qcode	pteague: Nice	01:53
haygus	i have just re install kubuntu	01:53
Eleaf	I'm trying to add a few gedit plugins, but whenever I add the .gedit-plugin file + code to ~/.gnome2/gedit/plugins/, it doesn't show up in the plugins preferences of gedit after restarting.	01:53
pteague	got the rest of the box on monday :)	01:53
Pelo	ewook, gnash or flash that is all i KNOW FOR YOU	01:53
haygus	before they is 2 icons in a same colluns (?)	01:54
Eleaf	I also tried adding the gedit plugins to /usr/share/gedit/plugins, they still don't show up	01:54
Pelo	haygus, make the pannel bigger	01:54
intelikey	grub help from the grub shell what is the command to install grub to an hd ?	01:54
jack-desktop	When I right click .exe programs, it shows "Open with gedit", how do I remove that option?	01:54
ewook	Pelo: I didn't ask a question, just tried to enlighten you from the adobe-path in your guidence, no need to shout :)	01:54
haygus	100% the size	01:54
Pelo	!grub \| intelikey	01:54
ubotu	intelikey: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	01:54
Pelo	ewook, sorry just an unfortunate caplock	01:55
ewook	=)	01:55
haygus	but berfore reboot it war good i start the CP and i saw that	01:55
Pelo	haygus, I am not familiar with kde, I am guessing you can probably specify the hight of the task bar in pixel	01:55
x-X-x	k i just learnt that file roller is just a core and needs extra tools for it to handle different compression formats is this true ?	01:55
Pelo	haygus, try asking in #kubuntu , they are familiar with kde stuff	01:56
Pelo	x-X-x, I thiunk we mentionned that earlier, if not I am sorry	01:56
haygus	ok ty	01:56
astro76	x-X-x, well out of the box with Ubuntu it supports mostly everything already, except rar and 7z	01:56
ubuntu__	Does anyone know how to make it so that I change resolutions with one click?	01:56
Pelo	gotta go, g'night folks	01:56
jack-desktop	When I right click .exe programs, it shows "Open with 'gedit' " two times, how do I remove that option?	01:56
ewook	Pelo: laters.	01:56
sourcemaker	Should the kernel timer frequency not 1000HZ for a desktop system? Why is it not default in the ubuntu kernel?	01:57
spaceghost_	pelo: I did as you said but the instructions aren't all that clear... it says to navigate to "this directory" which I assume means the directory where firefox is located but I don't know where that might be... could you tell me what directory that might be?	01:57
intelikey	pelo i don't see anything there about using the grub shell	01:57
x-X-x	in the info for file rollar it showed alot of formats but a * next to it doesnt tht mean that u need to install those seperately?	01:57
intelikey	ah well. anyone have dias about grub shell ?	01:58
RevTom	just to clarify from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup?highlight=%28bluetooth%29 -- if I plug in my usb bluetooth dongle and the bluetooth icon doesn't appear, that means it's not supported? It's a Dell part number NH366 I believe	01:58
RevTom	also, hiya :)	01:58
ubuntu__	does anyone know anything about resolutions?	01:58
RevTom	a little	01:58
intelikey	howto use the grub shell to install grub on hda1 ?	01:59
ubuntu__	would you know how to make it so that I can switch between two resolutions with one click?	01:59
josio	Witam! rozmawia ktos po polsku ;)	01:59
spaceghost_	can anyone tell me in which directory I should install flashplayer?	02:00
RevTom	i would not, sorry	02:00
RevTom	would that really come up that often?	02:00
x-X-x	thnx for the help guys pelo and astro76 in particular	02:00
LimCore	is there any tool to modify fonts easly, in example make all glyphs more thick? since default ubuntu fonts suck	02:01
RevTom	default ubuntu fonts DO suck	02:01
RevTom	and this pidgin typing making the whole line bounce thing isn't great either	02:01
sonja	RevTom: agreed	02:02
ubuntu__	I just installed a flashplayer today.	02:02
sonja	how do i make Calibri and Consolas my default fonts?	02:02
WorkingOnWis1	short of running >4GB of ram, is there any advantage to using x64 right now over x32. I am on 64 now just so I can see it for myself, and unless I'm missing something, 64 bit is a waste of resources for my system. Turion x2 with 4GB ram. I run virtualbox for Windows XP and to play with other distros, but other that that and some 3d games, I'm pretty low demand for my system.	02:02
sonja	x64 does not have Flash :(	02:02
ReaperWitobi	So, I've been trying to get php installed on my localhost - but everytime I browse to my php files, it tries to download them...	02:03
ubuntu__	I didn't worry about which directory to use I just installed it with the directions at http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash. Everything worked perfectly.	02:03
WorkingOnWis1	sonja: actually, I have flash, but java is FUBAR	02:03
nn	where would i find documents on building ubuntu disks for another architecture? I'm wanting to get xubuntu on arm	02:03
astro76	WorkingOnWis1, not really, unless you have specific 64bit applications	02:03
cookie	hello guys	02:03
Madpilot	sonja, you can change your system fonts at System->Prefs->Appearances, Font tab	02:03
WorkingOnWis1	astro76: is there such a thing as a non-32 bit linux app?	02:03
cookie	is there any hex reader like hex that will compare 2 files?	02:03
LimCore	WorkingOnWis1: 64bit ones?	02:03
astro76	WorkingOnWis1, think like scientific applications, that can take advantage of large numbers	02:04
intelikey	all i can get out of grub-install is an error /dev/hda does not have any coresponding bios drive	02:04
astro76	WorkingOnWis1, basically unless you already know you probably don't need it	02:04
x_zeuss	hi, i have a ntfs hdd on my comp, when i double-click it in nautilus it says i don't have permision to mount it. how do i mount it?	02:04
ndee	hi there, what's the fastest way to remove X and all gnome stuff from a desktop machine? I had the CD lying around but I actually want a server :D	02:04
WorkingOnWis1	astro76: lol...I usually hate that answer, but I think u r right in this case :)	02:04
nn	astro76: anything that does math on large datasets typically benefits (to include game physics, etc)	02:04
cookie	hello	02:04
Flannel	ndee: Ubuntu?	02:04
ndee	Flannel: yes	02:05
qcode	Wii to run Ubuntu soon: http://youtube.com/watch?v=H5YB1Mmx7E4	02:05
nn	so long as it was compiled with a compiler that optimizes for the 64bit platform	02:05
cookie	is there any hex reader like "hex" that will compare 2 files...if they are the same	02:05
RevTom	can anyone just peek and see if they agree with my interpretation?	02:05
x_zeuss	how do i mount a ntfs hdd?	02:05
RevTom	just to clarify from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup?highlight=%28bluetooth%29 -- if I plug in my usb bluetooth dongle and the bluetooth icon doesn't appear, that means it's not supported? It's a Dell part number NH366 I believe	02:05
RevTom	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=mount+ntfs&titlesearch=Titles	02:06
nn	x_zeuss: ntfs-3g	02:06
Flannel	ndee: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde will get rid of gnome, after that, you have to yank out the Xserver. Be sure to --purge with that as well, since you dont want the config files	02:06
nn	no ideas on this?	02:06
x_zeuss	nn: i installed the ntfs configuration tool	02:06
WorkingOnWis1	going to download Gutsy 32 bit an take some asprin for my 64bit java fubar induced headache	02:06
Flannel	ndee: and of course, ditch the install kubuntu- at the end of that line	02:06
x_zeuss	nn: or is ntfs-3g different?	02:06
nn	x_zeuss: ntfs-3g is great	02:07
PKdoR	any word on when will creative have 32bit X-Fi drivers?	02:07
spaceghost_	can anyone please tell me how to navigate to my desktop in terminal?	02:07
RevTom	nn: the forums are probably a better place for that question	02:07
astro76	spaceghost_, cd ~/Desktop	02:07
Flannel	spaceghost_: cd ~/Desktop	02:07
spaceghost_	ty	02:07
x_zeuss	nn: i have ntfs-3g installed	02:07
RevTom	you'll hit a wider array of ppl, increasing the likelihood of an answer to your compelling but narrow question	02:07
x_zeuss	nn: when i double-click the hdd in nautilus it says i don't have privileges to mount it	02:08
RevTom	x_zeuss: here's the info in the documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G?highlight=%28mount%29%7C%28ntfs%29	02:08
Hendrix	hi	02:08
nn	RevTom: im sure theres a set of procedures followed to roll a release..and im sure somewhere they are documented, but not having much luck finding them	02:09
pteague	that's not good...	02:09
RevTom	nn: you're probably right	02:09
Hendrix	I need a piece of advice!!	02:09
RevTom	i'm still trying to figure out if this bluetooth dongle is going to work for me	02:09
pteague	i loaded that page & firefox says noscript filtered a potential cross-site scripting (XSS) attempt from [chrome:]...	02:09
Hendrix	you can help me?	02:09
RevTom	Hendrix: switch to decaf?	02:09
PKdoR	is there an opensource alternative for flas?	02:10
Hendrix	revtom...goodnight..please to meet you	02:10
PKdoR	i mean flash?	02:10
RevTom	pleased to meet you too. any chance you're going to ask whatever it is you want advice about? :)	02:10
Delvien	PKdoR gnash,	02:10
Hendrix	revtom..I looking for a soft for ubuntu	02:10
Hendrix	'cause	02:10
Hendrix	i want to make a video dvd	02:11
pteague	a soft?	02:11
PKdoR	Delvien: does it have 64bit binaries?	02:11
Hendrix	software	02:11
Delvien	PKdoR no idea, i dont use it, just know about it :( sorry	02:11
astro76	!info devede \| Hendrix	02:11
ubotu	hendrix: devede: program to create video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.13-0.0 (gutsy), package size 741 kB, installed size 1700 kB	02:11
PKdoR	Delvien: thanks	02:11
cvd	There is any auto-form complete in FIrefox?	02:12
Hendrix	ubotu..thanks	02:12
ubotu	You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)	02:12
pteague	hehe	02:12
RevTom	lol	02:12
kriel	From past experiences with linux gurus, I've learned that linux dosen't need to defrag. Originally, I took this at face value, but then I thought 'Hm. How can it not need to be defragged...?' So I found this wonderful article online. http://dataexpedition.com/~sbnoble/Tips/filesystems.html However, it leaves with an end little hook 'If [the drive geometry] information is not available, or is not accurate, then the drive may perform very	02:12
Hendrix	now..i'm going to download that	02:12
kriel	cvd: yup. Just go through the options... if i remember correctly, it's enabled by default, and asks you every time if you want to save a password.	02:13
Hendrix	i'm from argentina	02:13
spaceghost_	can anyone tell me is there a way to install flashplayer on a 64bit os?	02:13
astro76	Hendrix, use synaptic	02:13
PKdoR	Any body here use gnash as a flash player for 64bit bnt?	02:13
astro76	!synaptic \| Hendrix	02:13
ubotu	Hendrix: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto	02:13
Hendrix	ok astro76	02:13
cvd	not password other things	02:13
cvd	email, name etc...	02:13
Hendrix	yes..the pack is downloading	02:14
RevTom	anyone know how I can find a bluetooth dongle that's compatible?	02:14
Hendrix	7s left	02:14
kriel	cvd: mmm... maybe. don't quote me on this, but i think it remembers past things that have been typed in fields...	02:14
Hendrix	installing	02:14
Flannel	nn: You might be better off just going the debian route. Not to rain on your parade or anything. There are a number of ports though. But I don't know where they come from. Maybe ask in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-mobile (the latter is an obvious port, they might be able to steer you)	02:14
RevTom	i really want a bt headset, and it would be nice if it also worked so I could watch movies in bed w/ headphones	02:14
kriel	cvd: try asking in #firefox	02:14
Hendrix	it's easy to use??	02:15
RevTom	ah ha! finally found it	02:15
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ndee	Flannel: do you know how I can	02:15
ndee	Flannel: oops	02:15
ndee	Flannel: oops, thanks did I want to write :D	02:15
Hendrix	ubotu..it's easy to use?	02:16
RevTom	k, guess I'm out	02:16
spaceghost_	can anyone please tell me if there's a way to install flashplayer on a 64bit machine?	02:16
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pteague	kriel> interesting article, but i think it's missing something... different filesystems do different things so it's not just a PC (windows) / Unix thing... or did you post that link for the other fragmentation? :)	02:16
astro76	!flash64 \| spaceghost_	02:16
ubotu	spaceghost_: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava	02:16
spaceghost_	uubotu: ty	02:17
pteague	lol	02:17
mrMister	hey. I'm trying to find our where the X11 libraries and headers are located	02:17
Hendrix	thanks friends..!!!!now...i'll start with my dvd project	02:18
Hendrix	happy new year!!!	02:18
Hendrix	see you later!	02:18
mrMister	I've installed the xserver dev package but it doesn't seem to be enough	02:18
kriel	pteague: ehheh. True. and no, i posted it for file fragmentation. What I was wondering is, is there a way to verify that my drive geometry is at least reasonably correct?	02:18
grout	Anyone have a .deb file for doomsday?	02:18
PKdoR	I have a x-fi sound card and I believe that my onboard sound is not compatible with lxn so is 64bit my only choise? (I do have 4GB RAM)	02:19
pteague	that i'm not sure of, but i do know that some of the different fs automatically handle defragging during low loads	02:19
Dr_willis	Ive heard so much about 64bit and the 4 gb ram. ive heard that its only when you have OVER 4gb.. or some times whenits close to 4gb.. and so on.. :)	02:19
Dr_willis	try booting the 32bit live cd - and see if it sees all the ram as a test.	02:20
Dr_willis	as for the xi-fi card. as far as i know Creative has only released 64bit drivers for it. so far.	02:20
PKdoR	no it only sees like 3.4 or something but the main reason is that there are no drivers for my sound card on 32 only 64bit (x-fi)	02:21
pteague	kriel> i know on ext3 (last i check anyways) it's impossible to undelete a deleted file as there's no way to guarantee a portion of the deleted file hasn't been overwritten... where as in FAT/FAT32 it's marked a certain way & there's no auto defrag	02:21
sonja	how do i install cabextract ??	02:22
kriel	pteague: yeah, i understand that... although i didn't know it before, i understand it ~.^; but im talking at more of a hard drive configuration level, not necessarily a FAT* vs. ext* comparison.	02:22
pteague	i know this cause we had been looking at moving cvs to subversion & rather than the gradual move we were thinking about we ended up making a cold turkey change... i accidently rm -fdr the cvs repositories	02:22
pteague	kriel> ah, that i don't know about... that's to geeky for me ;)	02:23
juuruichki	ª_ª	02:24
Shpook	Okay, this is the LAST time I am reformatting my computer. And no more Pulse Audio!	02:24
ifireball	kriel: fdisk has a verify option	02:25
kriel	ifireball: hm. That could work. But wouldn't that just verify the uh... the validity of the partition, not necessarily the geometry?	02:26
hendrixski	help. I installed Ubuntu for my dad this christmas, but he called me and sais that nothing happens after he logs in... it just hangs. :-( anybody know what the problem could be?	02:26
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Shpook	Actually, I'm still interested in installing PulseAudio. Is there anyway to install the PA sound server in a "sandbox"? I know of chroot, but I'm not familiar with it. I just want to make sure I can easily revert any changes.	02:26
PMantis	Where can I download Ubuntu JeOS ?	02:27
hendrixski	Is there maybe a regression after the latest updates or something? Or would turning off the bluetooth thing from startup cause this?	02:27
ifireball	kriel: fdisk can alos give you geometry info	02:27
astro76	!jeos \| PMantis	02:27
ubotu	PMantis: JeOS (pronounced "Juice") is Just enough Operating System. It is an efficient variant of the Ubuntu Server operating system, configured specifically for virtual appliances. See http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos for more information.	02:27
kriel	another question, what level are RAIDs set up at? I remember seeing options in BIOS for it, but I remember people setting it up at the software level as well. Can it be set up from both?	02:27
Shpook	PMantis: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos courtesy of Google.	02:28
hendrixski	Shpook, chroot is kinda difficult, but basically creates a separate file system for you to play in, and whatever you mess up in there won't mess up your main system	02:28
WorkingOnWis1	how can I install Evolution from the hardy repos but stay on Gutsy?	02:28
kriel	ifireball: Okay. Thanks.	02:28
PMantis	Thanks guys	02:28
ifireball	kriel: other then that, its not something the software can actually "see", the disk controller pretty much hides the real geometry in pc-grade disks	02:28
hendrixski	Shpook, tools like dchroot make it easier to manage ... look into that. :-)	02:28
Shpook	hendrixski: So I could set up a chroot environment, and not have to reformat or fight a long battle if I mess something up?	02:28
Burlynn	is there any program to recombine split video files short of 'cat'ing 20 files together. thats so time consuming	02:28
Towelboy	hey. I have problems with divx in ubuntu. Every player just shuts down, when i try to play a movie. Does anybody know how to fix this?	02:29
hendrixski	Shpook, you'll only have to fight the long battle to learn how to use chroot... but once that's over, yeah. If you mess something up, just delete the chroot. it's kind of like a virtual machine except it's only a file system	02:29
pteague	!ubotu divx	02:29
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	02:29
Shpook	hendrixski: Perfect. I'll spend the night learning and reading about it then. I tried installing PulseAudio on a 64-bit build, and it FUBAR'd the system. Thank you!	02:30
Shpook	!chroot	02:31
ubotu	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box	02:31
hendrixski	Shpook, good luck. I use chroots for software development but I know it's used for the 64 bit thing sometimes too	02:31
hendrixski	!dchroot	02:31
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about dchroot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:31
hendrixski	!schroot	02:31
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about schroot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:31
Shpook	hendrixski: Oh, I'm not using 64 bit anymore. The speed gain wasn't enough to be worth the headache	02:32
lammy	hallo world!	02:32
hendrixski	:-)	02:32
Shpook	hendrixski: Oh, and the chroot wiki has the information for dchroot	02:32
Shpook	hendrixski: Thanks again.	02:33
hendrixski	no problem	02:33
WorkingOnWis1	how can I install Evolution from the hardy repos but stay on Gutsy?	02:33
facted	hi, i have an issue with a recently installed ubuntu and firefox 3.0 Beta 2...It won't let me save to anything but the "root" directory. Can anyone help?	02:33
hendrixski	just don't say I didn't warn you, it's not easy to learn all the nook and crannies of how it works	02:33
crdlb	WorkingOnWis1: evolution relies on a lot of gnome libraries, that's not likely to end well.	02:33
lammy	which iso-file should i use for a intel 64b installation - can i use the amd64 builds!?	02:33
WorkingOnWis1	crdlb: thats not what i wanted to hear...	02:34
Shpook	hendrixski: Neither is marriage, but I'm trying anyways. :-D	02:34
brody	I have an IBM t 43 and can't get the midi working, any suggestions?	02:34
hendrixski	lol	02:34
hendrixski	brave man	02:34
Flannel	lammy: yes, or the i386, depending on if you want a 64 or 32 bit OS	02:34
Shpook	lol	02:34
biff420	what can you use as a .rar archiver in ubuntu?	02:34
WorkingOnWis1	crdlb: although....i could compile it from source...	02:34
Flannel	facted: You should ask in #firefox on irc.mozilla.org	02:34
hendrixski	So, anybody... would recent updates cause Gutsy to not be able to load a session once you log in? or possible disabling the bluetooth utility from the startup menu? I kinda need to know quickly	02:34
brody	!ubotu midi	02:35
ubotu	Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo	02:35
disasterpiece	so i'm trying to get my raid-0 going with ubuntu, i've run through the steps pasted here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto - (i did these steps before i did the full install) is that right?	02:35
Shpook	hendrixski: Is it hanging right after login?	02:35
hendrixski	Shpook, yup	02:35
wh0anur	rere	02:35
hendrixski	and I can't be sure what's going on because it's my fathers' computer, and it's 5 hours away	02:35
Madpilot	ubotu, rar \| biff420	02:35
ubotu	biff420: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free	02:35
Shpook	hendrixski: let me search through my bookmarks, I remember coming across a fix for that, one sec	02:36
biff420	thanks	02:36
WorkingOnWis1	is there a way to use a firefix for windows video codec in firefox for linux? there is no linux equivilant of this codec.	02:36
korosora	hey, will skype come to gutsy anytime soon? T_T	02:36
lammy	Flannel: thanks - i will try the amd64 for my intel core2duo ...	02:36
hendrixski	oh man, you'd be a lifesaver if you have the fix	02:36
facted	Does anyone know why firefox won't let me save anywhere but root (when I go to save, the places menu only goes as high up as root...i can't go any higher in the directory tree).	02:37
juuruichki	cause you fail?	02:37
hendrixski	facted... by "root" do you mean "/" ?	02:37
Delvien	is there anyway to FORCE nautilus to copy a file over to another hard drive thats greater than 6gigs ?	02:37
facted	no, the "root" directory	02:37
Forbr4d3	there isnt higher than root heh	02:37
facted	in the files system	02:37
Forbr4d3	try /home	02:37
WorkingOnWis1	facted: there shouldnt be a root dir	02:38
hendrixski	are you starting firefox as root?	02:38
Riotblade	Hey, anyone know how to set links (browser) to save cookies	02:38
WorkingOnWis1	facted: a dir caled root i mean	02:38
facted	not 100% sure, I followed the insturctions here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-firefox-3-beta-2-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html	02:38
hendrixski	facted, please don't tell me you logged in as root!	02:38
facted	i don't think I did	02:38
Forbr4d3	he just doesnt understand the directory structure	02:38
Nostahl	i just changed the resolution from 600/800 to 1200/1000 and it told me to log off and log back on my user	02:38
facted	although, anything is possible...i just installed linux today :)	02:38
Nostahl	so i did and now the screen is all scrambled its at the login window	02:38
Nostahl	what do i do	02:38
WorkingOnWis1	facted: do u see a directory caled home?	02:39
hendrixski	facted, oh. Ok :-)	02:39
Forbr4d3	/home/username	02:39
Shpook	hendrixski: did you try hitting ctrl-alt-f1 after it hangs, then at the terminal "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?	02:39
facted	not when I go to save something in firefox	02:39
Forbr4d3	is what are want	02:39
korosora	hey guys, skype doesnt work on gutsy T_T	02:39
facted	the places menu on the left goes as high up as "root"	02:39
Forbr4d3	s/are/you	02:39
facted	actually, really "filesystem"	02:39
disasterpiece	do i need to the full install of unbuntu before or after the raid?	02:39
facted	oh wait, hold on	02:39
Nostahl	how do i fix my screen it is all scrambled now after changing resolution	02:40
Shpook	!skype	02:40
ubotu	To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto	02:40
hello_man	Can someone help me install Aptana on Ubuntu? I want to install the 1.0 release (http://aptana.com) but I have no idea how.	02:40
Forbr4d3	facted: the / or root directory is like your c: drive its the top level	02:40
Shpook	!skype \| korosora	02:40
ubotu	korosora: please see above	02:40
facted	I gotcha, i actually found my home directory in there with my username	02:40
Shpook	Smart bot, we love you.	02:40
facted	i am so sorry for the bother :)	02:40
hendrixski	Shpook, I did not. because I don't know if it's a x-server problem. I can call him and tell him to type that in	02:40
Nostahl	anyone know how i can fix my screen its all scrambled after changing the resolution	02:41
hendrixski	facted, don't worry, we were all beginers once too	02:41
WorkingOnWis1	facted: u scared us....no problem	02:41
disasterpiece	i'm trying to get raid set up, anyone lend a hand?	02:41
WorkingOnWis1	some of us...me...stil are.	02:41
Shpook	hendrixski: I can't find anything in my bookmarks, but I found a few suggestions for the above method in the ubuntu forums. It worked for some, and didn't for others.	02:41
WorkingOnWis1	whose got a towel, this water behind my ears is buggin me :)	02:41
* Forbr4d3 tosses WorkingOnWis1 a towel		02:42
WorkingOnWis1	lol	02:42
WorkingOnWis1	Forbr4d3: ty	02:42
hendrixski	Nostahl, just like shpook suggested for my problem above ... get a terminal (hit ctrl+alt+f1) and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"	02:42
Shpook	hendrixski: I can say that the one time that I had the exact same problem, it was caused by me installing the wrong nvidia driver.	02:43
Nostahl	k	02:43
Nostahl	can you messge me that so it dosnt fly by please hendrixski	02:43
Forbr4d3	hendrixski: whats the problem?	02:43
hendrixski	Shpook, I didn't install any drivers for him though	02:43
facted	question though...why is it when I save a file to my desktop, it automatically becomes locked so I can no longer delete it?	02:43
facted	(or rather, i have to go into the terminal and delete it with root privlidge)	02:43
hendrixski	Forbr4d3, I installed Gutsy for my dad over christmas, and everything worked then today he calls says when he tries to log in nothing happens	02:43
Forbr4d3	facted: file permissions?	02:43
facted	from firefox that is	02:43
facted	i understand, but do my permissions for every file saved from firefox have to be root?	02:44
facted	or can I alter that somehow	02:44
Forbr4d3	facted: you are doing something strangely	02:44
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: does he log in and is tolt his session lasted less than 10 seconds?	02:44
hendrixski	facted... there's something very wrong with that. it shouldn't be root	02:44
facted	yea, that's what I fear	02:44
astro76	facted, the normal version works fine	02:44
Towelboy	i can't play any videos at all in ubuntu. have an ati radeon card...Anyone knows the solution?.	02:44
facted	doesn't seem right at all	02:44
disasterpiece	i am trying to my raid-0 going with ubuntu. I haven't fully installed ubuntu, should i do that before or after the steps here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto ??	02:45
Forbr4d3	facted: if you open up a terminal and type cd ~	02:45
Shpook	hendrixski: I would say give that a try, it won't make it any worse. At least rule out the basics.	02:45
astro76	facted, maybe something is wrong with the beta	02:45
Forbr4d3	that will bring you to your home dor	02:45
Forbr4d3	then cd Desktop	02:45
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, nope, from what he told me it just has that red-ish screen and nothing happens	02:45
Forbr4d3	and ls -l	02:45
facted	yes forbr4d3?	02:45
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: like gdm isnt starting but the x server is?	02:45
facted	i did all that	02:46
nickrud	facted, check the permissions on the firefox binary, is it set suid?	02:46
facted	no	02:46
facted	it's set to root!	02:46
Forbr4d3	whats the file permissions say?	02:46
facted	which is def. not the way it should be, i think ;)	02:46
hendrixski	facted, when you click on applications-->accessories-->terminal does it say username@computername -$ or does it say root@computername -$ ?	02:46
facted	root:root	02:46
nickrud	facted, that's the owner, not the permissions	02:46
Forbr4d3	what about the rwx part	02:46
facted	root@...	02:46
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, I'm guessing that's it.... because xserver is needed for the login screen right? so yeah, it's that Gnome isn't starting up	02:46
facted	i logged in as root didnt' I...	02:47
hendrixski	facted... then you logged in as root.	02:47
nickrud	lol	02:47
Forbr4d3	facted: you are running firefox as root	02:47
hendrixski	yes, that's bad	02:47
facted	hmm	02:47
Forbr4d3	facted: how did you start firefox	02:47
hendrixski	if you're on IRC as root that's even worse	02:47
Forbr4d3	you dont need to sudo firefox heh	02:47
* nickrud reaches for ddc		02:47
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facted	from the applications->internet->firefox	02:47
facted	though I did this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-firefox-3-beta-2-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html to install firefox 3.0	02:47
Forbr4d3	so you are logged in as root heh	02:47
hendrixski	facted, find a manual on how to create an account that isn't root, and then log out and then log in as that non-root user :-) ASAP	02:47
Shpook	Does his terminal say he's logged in as root?	02:48
facted	terminal says root...	02:48
facted	alright	02:48
Forbr4d3	yeah	02:48
facted	tahnsk for the help guys	02:48
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: its a 3 step thing. x starts, then the login manager (gdm for Ubuntu by defaut) then the session, Gnome. I dont know how, but it sounds like gdm needs do reconfigured maybe?	02:48
facted	i'm gonna create a new account that's not root	02:48
Forbr4d3	good thinkin	02:48
facted	adios	02:48
Nostahl	make the new account Tree	02:48
Forbr4d3	haha	02:48
nickrud	wierd, gdm has to be told to allow root to log in at all....	02:48
disasterpiece	wish i knew what "root" meant :P	02:48
disasterpiece	!root	02:49
ubotu	Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	02:49
Forbr4d3	that was an strange case	02:49
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meng	i am having issues with the process evince thumbnauler and pdftotext taking up all my cpu cycles	02:49
renegade420	The sound is not working and alsamixer is giving an error device not found.	02:49
nickrud	disasterpiece, root in this context means the user that can do anything	02:49
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, ah. Ok.... then.. .I guess it may be because I unselected the thing bluetooth manager program from the startup and that's causing gnome not to load	02:49
renegade420	and i am ruunning xubuntu	02:49
Shpook	lol Ubotu has some strange responses sometimes.	02:49
Forbr4d3	i login to my iPhone as root :p	02:50
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Nostahl	ok guys	02:50
Nostahl	i got an ati card	02:50
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, Forbr4d3, Shpook is there a way to get that program back on the startup-programs list from commandline?	02:50
facted	back...on second thought, i'm logged in as my username I believe	02:50
facted	terminal says:	02:50
Nostahl	it said to use restricted drivers to use the full 3d support of the card so i said yea	02:50
disasterpiece	!raid	02:50
ubotu	Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto	02:50
Nostahl	it installed them	02:50
facted	root@username-desktop	02:50
compwiz18	facted: your still root	02:50
nickrud	facted, you're root	02:50
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: maybe. again, I dont know how, but there is a way to kill the xserver, then from the command line start gnome in a "safe-mode" way, no scripts, not autostart apps....	02:51
Nostahl	then i tryed selecting my monitor and the 1200/1000 resolution in screens and graphics	02:51
facted	what's weird is when I opened up my users	02:51
meng	i am having issues with the process evince thumbnauler and pdftotext taking up all my cpu cycles	02:51
pteague	speaking of raid... any particular reason to make single disks raid devices?	02:51
Nostahl	it told me to log off when i did it scrambled the screen	02:51
Forbr4d3	hendrixski: i missed the first part of what you were saying	02:51
Forbr4d3	what are you trying to do?	02:51
astro76	pteague, absolutely none	02:51
Shpook	hendrixski: I'm sure there is, but honestly, I wouldn't know how. Was it the Bluetooth manager?	02:51
facted	my username account has my name (which is what I set), and tha'ts how I signed in	02:51
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, good call.... .and then from safe-mode he can re-select it	02:51
facted	there is a separate root:root account	02:51
facted	which I did not use to login	02:51
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: yup. all the things I've done and forgot....sorry I'm not more help with the details.	02:51
Nostahl	then i restarted the computer it comes back on saying your screen and graphics could not be detected correctly. to use higher resolutions visual effects or multiple screens you have to configure the display yourself.	02:52
Nostahl	any idea's?	02:52
nickrud	Nostahl, to get back to your original config, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg. You may need to clt-alt-f1 to log in and do that, ctl-alt-f7 gets you back to the graphical shell	02:52
disasterpiece	astro76, i am trying to get raid going. should i do the full install before performing the steps that the !raid help implies? or after?	02:52
compwiz18	facted: what is the name of the account you want to be logged in as?	02:52
pteague	figured there wasn't... the moron that set up the production server made each directory off root it's own raid disk even though it's a single partition	02:52
facted	i have to change my permissions to not allow "administer the account"	02:52
facted	is that correct?	02:52
Forbr4d3	facted: type whoami in a terminal	02:52
nickrud	Nostahl, then hit clt-alt-backspace to restart X with the new config	02:52
hendrixski	Shpook, yeah, I deselected it because he doesn't have bluetooth. and I'm guessing that may be causing it to not load	02:52
facted	"administer the system" rather	02:52
compwiz18	facted: don	02:52
nickrud	facted, no, don't do that	02:52
compwiz18	facted: don	02:52
facted	k...not doing that	02:53
compwiz18	facted: don't change any of root's permissions	02:53
facted	no, not root's	02:53
compwiz18	(sry for the typo there)	02:53
facted	my username's	02:53
nickrud	facted, if you do that, you won't be able to sudo	02:53
facted	my main account	02:53
Nostahl	nickrud can you msg me that so it dosnt fly by	02:53
hendrixski	alrighty, I'll call him..... you guys look out for facted.... he may have created his default user with root priveledges. Which is just asking for someone to hack into his computer	02:53
Shpook	hendrixski: Hmm...I always disable everything Bluetooth, without a problem. Was that the same time he started having this problem?	02:53
nickrud	Nostahl, what kind of video card do you have	02:53
Nostahl	ati allinwonder 9600xt	02:53
hendrixski	Shpook, it's the only thing I did... plus updates	02:54
hendrixski	it's a clean install	02:54
facted	ok, so how can I alter my account to remove root prvilidges?	02:54
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: let us know how it goes. I'd love to know if I'm in the right neighborhood with your problem	02:54
hendrixski	be back after the phone call, I'll let you know how it goes	02:54
compwiz18	facted: that isn't your account	02:54
Flannel	facted: type "apt-get update"	02:54
Flannel	facted: Do you get a permission error?	02:54
Shpook	hendrixski: Yes, please let us know. Good luck.	02:54
disasterpiece	anyone give me a hand with raid on ubuntu? :D	02:54
facted	i got the update	02:54
facted	no permission error	02:54
Flannel	facted: Did you put sudo infront of it?	02:54
facted	i did not put sudo in front of it	02:55
facted	which means the account I am currently using has root privlidge (without sudo)	02:55
onats	is the gparted safe to resize NTFS partitions?	02:55
facted	correct?	02:55
compwiz18	facted: try this: log out, when you see the box, type your username/password (where the username isn't root) , come back here	02:55
facted	compqiz	02:55
facted	tha'ts how I logged into my account, trust me	02:55
Flannel	facted: type this `echo $UID` what does it return?	02:55
facted	i never typed in root	02:55
compwiz18	facted: ok :)	02:55
facted	echo returns 0	02:56
errpast	Hi, my touchpad mouse is moving around and crazy with 7.10	02:56
compwiz18	facted: I'm just confused how when you don't login as root, your logged in w/ uid 0	02:56
errpast	moves all over the place	02:56
errpast	Like it has a mind of its own	02:56
compwiz18	errpast: any weird magnetic things nearby	02:56
Towelboy	hey i can't play any videos at all in ubuntu. have an ati radeon card...Anyone knows the solution?. apart from buying a new card	02:56
Jan`	Woo. Ubuntu live CD downloaderised.	02:56
errpast	compwiz18, no, not that I know of	02:57
Flannel	facted: well, you're certainly root then. What folders are in /home? (ls /home)	02:57
facted	question: in my user settings for user privlidges for my regular account (not the root), should "Administer the system" be checked?	02:57
errpast	I think it's a driver thing	02:57
Abyssal	test	02:57
nickrud	Jan`, now put it in, and see the Flaming Fury :)	02:57
compwiz18	Towelboy: using the restricted driver?	02:57
errpast	probably need a touchpad driver, then to tweak xorg.conf	02:57
facted	I logged in to my acount with my username and password (not with root:root)	02:57
Abyssal	hi	02:57
errpast	ugggh	02:57
Flannel	facted: yes	02:57
compwiz18	errpast: mine does that sometimes, but not for that long	02:57
Flannel	facted: Your first user can administer the system	02:57
Abyssal	i got a problem	02:57
errpast	compwiz18, ya, it will got 10 minutes and be ok. Then jump all over	02:57
facted	I see, so then the fact that I have root right now is still a very bad thing, I take it?	02:57
errpast	frustrating!!	02:58
maek	if I have an entry in my sources.list as deb http://ubuntu.org.ua/ getdeb/ and I want to pin it, would the a= be getdeb or getdeb/ ? thanks.	02:58
compwiz18	errpast: yeah :(	02:58
Towelboy	compwiz18: no the free one...and i got compiz to work...but no video?	02:58
jauru	facted: echo $PS1	02:58
Abyssal	write me a personal message please if you feel you can help me with a driver problem	02:59
Flannel	facted: the fact that when you login, you somehow become root is the issue. All systems have a root user, and their first user (the real 'user' user) has the ability to administer the system	02:59
facted	${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$	02:59
maek	Abyssal: you might get more help if you just put it out there, a driver problem could be anything.	02:59
jauru	facted: hmm	02:59
facted	I see	02:59
Shpook	Abyssal, state your problem in the room, not only will it be easier for someone to help you, it might help someone else.	02:59
compwiz18	Towelboy: try turning compiz off, and then try, I know I can't watch stuff while using compiz... I'm using restricted though	03:00
* Jan` pokes at the .iso with a stick		03:00
jauru	facted: looks normal is all	03:00
Abyssal	ok. i got a HP scanjet scanner 3800. but i do not get it running.	03:00
Towelboy	compwiz18: ok. will try. thanks	03:00
Abyssal	what can i do.	03:00
jauru	facted: how about 'id'	03:00
Flannel	facted: So, when you went about installing FF3, what did you do?	03:00
Abyssal	i could not find a driver.	03:00
facted	uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)	03:01
jauru	facted: not normal...	03:01
Shpook	Abyssal: did you try searching google for a Linux driver?	03:01
jauru	facted: unless you entered 'sudo -s' at some point...	03:01
facted	i don't remember doing that	03:01
monkeyBox	How do I get the latest nvidia drivers?	03:01
facted	but I cannot say for sure	03:01
Forbr4d3	facted: you should reinstall ubuntu man	03:02
facted	would there be a way to undue/check that	03:02
magic_ninja	is there a program to compare two text files	03:02
Flannel	magic_ninja: diff	03:02
Forbr4d3	facted: you have something seriously screwed up	03:02
Shpook	You know, when I installed FF3b2, I just extracted the tarball and ran it. worked fine.	03:02
jauru	facted: does sound strange...	03:02
Flannel	magic_ninja: and various graphical versions, they probably all (at least most) have "diff" in their name.	03:02
jauru	facted: i assume you have already rebooted and logged in again...	03:02
Forbr4d3	facted: its impossible to have your situation from a default install	03:02
facted	ok, how do I reinstall ubuntu? do I need to format anything or can I just run the livecd again?	03:02
compwiz18	facted: if you find the bash history file, it will tell you what you did, and you could put it in the pastebin...	03:02
Abyssal	shpook: yes sure. it says that there is a kind of hp3900-series_0.11.tar.gz driver which could help.	03:02
facted	i can try again	03:02
fever	hi .... i am trying to make a loops for parameters which shows all possible combos i cant do it.... i have read tons for faq's	03:03
facted	let me restart and see what happens	03:03
facted	be back in a minute	03:03
jauru	facted: ok	03:03
Flannel	facted: Yeah, just pop it in and reinstall. If this is a new install, that's probably best (it'll certainly take less time/effort)	03:03
LjL	Flannel, magic_ninja: kompare (one that doesn't have diff in the name) is a pretty good one if you're on kde	03:03
Forbr4d3	facted: im just saying cuz itll probably be quicker than to figure out the problem and fix it yourself	03:03
initx	i	03:03
Flannel	LjL: krazy KDE kitizens and their kaotic knames.	03:03
Abyssal	shpook: a detailled description how to install it would be fine.	03:03
LjL	there's a gnome one which works very much like it, but the name escapes me right now	03:03
initx	i'm getting errors due to not specifying where tclConfig.sh	03:03
LjL	Flannel: bleh.	03:03
initx	what package gives that?	03:03
Towelboy	compwiz18: nope...the player still just quits. when trying to play any video...strange	03:04
Forbr4d3	although it would be interesting to see how it went from install to running gdm as root without knowing what he was doing	03:04
LjL	initx: what?	03:04
compwiz18	Towelboy: what player are you using?	03:04
Towelboy	compwiz18: mplayer	03:04
adz21c	Hey, what is the hardware support for the Creative X-Fi in linux like? Has anyone tested this Beta driver that they released? Is there an Opensource driver for it and is it any good?	03:04
compwiz18	Towelboy: maybe try vlc and see what happens?	03:04
initx	LjL: I'm trying to build a tcl app, and have hunted down what an error means. But I need to know where the tclConfig.sh file is	03:04
Abyssal	is there a how to how to install a scanner driver?	03:05
LjL	!find tclConfig.sh \| initx	03:05
ubotu	initx: Package/file tclconfig.sh does not exist in gutsy	03:05
puhchi	bad	03:05
Abyssal	i got the scanner and the driver but do not know how to install the *.tar.gz file.	03:05
redhatFDL	Boa noite à todos! Good evening for all	03:05
puhchi	symantec manager	03:05
puhchi	?	03:05
initx	you mean I have to build tcl by hand and just hope it's real?	03:05
korosora	hmm	03:05
compwiz18	Abyssal: extract the .tar.gz file	03:05
Towelboy	compwiz18:its the same...have tried all players now	03:05
initx	checking for Tcl configuration... configure: error: yes directory doesn't contain tclConfig.sh	03:06
LjL	initx: no, i mean that no matter what the stupid bot says, tclConfig.sh is provided by "tcl8.4-dev"	03:06
Abyssal	compwiz18: how? i need the detailed idiot version :-)	03:06
compwiz18	Towelboy: sounds like a problem with.... either the video libs or X	03:06
jauru	facted: just rebooted?	03:06
Shpook	Abyssal: could you send the link where you got the driver?	03:06
facted	back, same thing in my administator	03:06
Abyssal	sure	03:06
initx	LjL: thanks. figured it was in one of the -dev	03:06
facted	root@username-desktop	03:06
facted	so I guess I'll just reinstall :)	03:06
facted	thanks for everyone's help	03:07
jauru	facted: did you have to login or did it auto-login?	03:07
twitch	anyone want my 2 cents?	03:07
facted	I had to login	03:07
compwiz18	facted: do you see your username after you run this command: cat /etc/passwd \| cut -d":" -f1	03:07
facted	wait	03:07
jauru	facted: it does sound best. I hope you don't have any data to save on your Ubuntu box.	03:07
facted	in my applications, i have system tools -> root terminal	03:08
jauru	facted: that'll do it every time...	03:08
facted	is that my problem?	03:08
facted	i'm not actually in my root account, but i'm accessing the terminal root...	03:08
facted	ah ha! haha	03:08
facted	the things I have to learn!	03:08
jauru	facted: tsk, tsk, tsk.	03:08
Shpook	Abyssal: You can just right click the file and click "Extract" or "Extract Here" by the way	03:08
facted	one final question then	03:08
Forbr4d3	facted: if you are die hard on fixing it look at http://www.ibiblio.org/oswg/oswg-nightly/oswg/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/gdm-reference/gdm-reference/x135.html	03:09
Abyssal	that was the link: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150599&release_id=563378	03:09
green	I have a question can i have 2 users with different settings on berly and one without berly settings?	03:09
initx	green: yeah, with different sessions	03:09
Forbr4d3	and set your gdm.conf enable root to 0	03:09
facted	I think I screwed up firefox anyway	03:09
LimCore	how to protect self from user to root exploits and other local privilages escalation?	03:09
facted	I'm just going to reinstall	03:09
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facted	that's going to be the easiest way	03:09
Abyssal	ok i extracted it. now i got a folder on my desktop	03:09
green	initx how about installation?	03:09
jauru	facted: normal terminal is ofcourse in applications/accessories/terminal	03:09
Forbr4d3	facted: it you start gnome-terminal and it puts you it root	03:10
Forbr4d3	facted: its not just firefox man	03:10
green	initx for example one user has opera install and other user does not?	03:10
jauru	facted: what happens if you select normal terminal?	03:10
novacrust	hmm	03:10
facted	gotcha, thanks	03:10
Forbr4d3	jauru: he gets root	03:10
disasterpiece	anyone know if i should fully install ubuntu before i setup the raid? or after?	03:10
compwiz18	facted: press alt+f2, then type gnome-terminal	03:10
facted	username@	03:10
facted	;)	03:10
jauru	ta	03:10
Shpook	Abyssal: hold on one sec, I'm gonna download it and help you	03:10
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initx	green: well, if you install it on the system everyone has it	03:10
Forbr4d3	facted: whoami	03:10
facted	thanks for everything	03:10
Abyssal	shpook: i hope this driver is good enough for running HP scanjet 3800	03:11
jauru	facted: best of luck...	03:11
johnficca	I'm very confused and I need help...I got the driver for my wireless network card working(realtek rtl8185L) but I have to rerun the scripts that came with it every time I reboot...?	03:11
Forbr4d3	facted: you can check your firefox properties.. right click and properties	03:11
Towelboy	compwiz18: yeah...so should i just try changing the driver . or how do i best shoot this problem?	03:11
LOLJESUS	DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0	03:11
Forbr4d3	facted: it should say something like firefox %u for command	03:11
initx	green: do you just want to lock a user out of using a program?	03:11
vemo	ssddddddddd	03:11
PKdoR	does compizfusion work on 64bit ubuntu?	03:12
Jordan_U	PKdoR, Yes	03:12
compwiz18	PKdoR: yep	03:12
moDumass	afternoon all, so i dloaded alien arena for linux 6.10, how do i install it?	03:12
facted	will do, thanks	03:12
Jordan_U	PKdoR, Pretty much all open source applications do	03:12
PKdoR	how about vbox?	03:12
WorkingOnWis1	PKdoR: yup	03:13
PKdoR	ahhhghh! open source nirvana!	03:13
initx	moDumass: wait 60 years for the OS, first.. seriously, if it's a deb package you should just be able to double-click in file manager, it's that easy now	03:13
kristin	how can you get ubuntu to detect your wireless card?	03:14
initx	moDumass: or dpkg -i filename.deb	03:14
moDumass	initx yeh but i found using the one in synaptic just screwed up my system	03:14
Shpook	Abyssal: Okay, open up the terminal.	03:14
Abyssal	ok	03:14
dissection	Which card do you have kristin?	03:14
moDumass	it seems to be a problem with the synaptic version	03:14
fever	omg i did it! :)	03:14
Jordan_U	moDumass, What format is the installer in?	03:14
initx	it's a deb, just an old one, Jordan_U	03:15
Abyssal	terminal is open	03:15
Shpook	Abyssal: then your going to need to CD into the directory where you extracted the file.	03:15
kristin	linksys wireless g card	03:15
green	initx no . but thanks	03:15
dissection	kristin: I think it uses the broadcom chipset. You should be able to get it to work by enabling restricted drivers	03:15
Abyssal	directly into the new directory or just onto the desktop?	03:15
korosora	hey, thanks for the help on skype. i appreciate it.	03:15
green	initx if i wanted to install compizfusion woould i need to install anything specific to run on ubuntu?	03:15
Abyssal	where the folder is located	03:15
green	video driver / etc	03:15
initx	green: glxinfo \| grep direct	03:16
kristin	dissection, how to i enable my restricted drivers?	03:16
Shpook	Abyssal: into the "hp3900-series_0.11" directory.	03:16
Abyssal	ok shpood	03:16
Abyssal	shpook	03:16
Abyssal	i did that	03:16
moDumass	I hate expert exchange	03:16
moDumass	so sneaky	03:16
dissection	kristin: System > Administration > Restricted Drivers Manager	03:16
Jordan_U	green, You would need drivers that support 3D acceleration and texture_from_pixmap	03:17
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, Forbr4d3, Shpook :-) yup, that did it. logged in in safe mode and re-enabled it.	03:17
grout	Anyone have a .deb file for doomsday?	03:17
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: :D great	03:17
Shpook	Abyssal: now type in "sudo ./INSTALL.sh"	03:17
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: dads happy now?	03:17
hendrixski	now I gotta figure out how he can watch wsx files on his browser :-/	03:17
Crust	hmm	03:17
Shpook	hendrixski: Awesome! Great.	03:17
zubuntu	is there a way to check if an external hdd is about to fail?	03:18
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WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: what is wsx?	03:18
kristin	dissection, it wants me to specify where the firmware can be found, i'm really new at this, so is there a general place it should go?	03:18
Shpook	Abyssal: Did it start the install script?	03:18
Neophos	When I opened Blender, it was suddenly nearly transparent (it's hard to impossible to read anything brighter then pure black, and you can hardly see any of the objects). Is there some option in Ubuntu anywhere that regulates the transparency of windows?	03:18
Novacrust	hmm	03:19
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, sort of happy.... the first thing he did was go online, and I hadn't installed flash or any codecs ... ooops ... but I can't play this file on here either.	03:19
zubuntu	the external drive makes a thumping sound every 2-5 seconds, and I can only find info on how to check in windows	03:19
Abyssal	shpook: yes	03:19
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, I haven't the foggiest idea, I'll google it	03:19
Abyssal	there are 2 options	03:19
euskadi	hi	03:19
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euskadi	got a question, i'd like to know how can I simulate a webcam on ubuntu to use msn messenger and send a video instead of a real webcam ?	03:19
negativt	Is there a variable for the rownumber a function is on in Open Office Calc?	03:19
Shpook	Abyssal: Okay, you're going to want option 2, Install as SANE backend.	03:19
Abyssal	standalone application or SANE backend	03:19
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: look into the mediubuntu repos for all the codecs he should need	03:19
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Abyssal	ok	03:19
Abyssal	then ubuntu...	03:20
Shpook	Abyssal: Yes.	03:20
Jordan_U	hendrixski, What happens when you try to open it in totem?	03:20
hendrixski	wow, exact same problem as this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=164985	03:20
Abyssal	shpook: and then the installation was succesfully it says.	03:20
hendrixski	Jordan_U, it says there's not input plugin	03:20
kenro	Hey. Y'all know how Synaptic PM is now specifying certain pkg as 'local or obselete'?	03:21
Shpook	Abyssal: Okay, now you're going to have to restart.	03:21
Abyssal	the whole computer?	03:21
Shpook	Abyssal: No, just X. Just log out and log back in.	03:21
dissection	kristin: So the card shows up there? If you enable it, I think it should download the required firmware	03:21
Jordan_U	kenro, I would think that means that it is a package which is not currently available in any of the repositories you have enabled	03:22
Abyssal	ok CU in a minute!	03:22
Abyssal	ok?	03:22
At0mic_PC	How can I capture the sound comming from my speakers?	03:22
Shpook	Abyssal: Ok, I'll be here for about 10 more minutes. :-)	03:22
kristin	dissection, it did and i downloaded it, now it wants me to put it the firmware somewhere so it can be found	03:22
At0mic_PC	Like if I'm playing a movie and want to capture the sound.	03:22
* duct_tape slaps mans0n around a bit with a large trout		03:22
jacob_	what's the successor of binary language?	03:23
kenro	Jordan_U: Ah, so don't take it for granted it isn't a necessary pkg...	03:23
Jordan_U	At0mic_PC, That will be so much easier with pulseaudio in 8.04	03:23
crazedCrazed	I used mount --bind on two directories. Now I cant umount the directory any ideas?	03:23
astro76	jacob_, binary isn't a language, it's a number base	03:23
mans0n	anybody know how to install flash player in ubuntu 7.10?	03:23
compwiz18	crazedCrazed: you unmount both binded dirs?	03:23
mans0n	thanks.	03:23
Jordan_U	!flash \| mans0n	03:23
ubotu	mans0n: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	03:23
jacob_	astro76 i meant to say machine language, or is there not?	03:23
ubotu	The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.	03:23
Forbr4d3	crazedCrazed: can your force the umount?	03:23
Abyssal	hello again	03:24
Forbr4d3	crazedCrazed: if not reboot	03:24
crazedCrazed	ok	03:24
mans0n	Thank you. :)	03:24
L33tMasta	I'm thinking of switching to Ubuntu	03:24
kristin	dissection, i think actually i've got to choose to download it from the internet? is that for the drivers?	03:24
Abyssal	shpook: what now. i just logged out and reentered	03:24
At0mic_PC	Jordan_U: Will be?	03:24
crazedCrazed	ill try and force it	03:24
kenro	Jordan_U: I was asking a question, there...	03:24
* duct_tape pokes mans0n		03:24
L33tMasta	But before I make the switch I have a couple of questions	03:24
euskadi	got a question, i'd like to know how can I simulate a webcam on ubuntu to use msn messenger and send a video instead of a real webcam ?	03:24
rm-rf	is there anyway to generate a new uuid for a disk?	03:25
astro76	jacob_, this should be in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)	03:25
jacob_	astro76 thanks	03:25
jacob_	anyways	03:25
Abyssal	SHPOOK?	03:25
Jordan_U	kenro, Yes, if it's not available in main then it probably isn't a "necessary" package	03:25
jacob_	:)	03:25
hendrixski	L33tMasta, as away	03:25
hendrixski	ask*	03:25
Shpook	I hate not remembering which nvidia driver I use	03:25
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L33tMasta	The main thing preventing me from switching is my games. Will I be able to play Crysis on Ubuntu?	03:26
euskadi	how use a virtual webcam in ubuntu ?	03:26
initx	rm-rf: afaict uuids aren't supposed to collide	03:26
Abyssal	hello shpook	03:26
Jordan_U	Shpook, For the most part Restricted Manager should deal with that for you	03:26
rm-rf	initx: well, funny thing :)	03:26
initx	rm-rf: not sure you can manually set it, doubt it.. and there's little reason	03:26
kenro	Jordan_U: It's asking me if I want to go ahead and de-install KDE and Gimp.	03:26
rm-rf	i cloned my / disk with acronis, but i'm leaving the old disk in the system	03:26
Shpook	Abyssal: Hello Abyssal. Have you tried scanning something yet?	03:26
Abyssal	shpook: what can i do next?	03:26
initx	rm-rf: so now the uuids are the same?	03:27
Abyssal	no. how? which programm shall i use.	03:27
Shpook	Jordan_U: Restricted Manager always installs the wrong driver lol.	03:27
rm-rf	initx: yep	03:27
Jordan_U	L33tMasta, I don't know at all but I doubt that you will be able to play crysis on Ubuntu for a while	03:27
Abyssal	sane?	03:27
L33tMasta	Will my DirectX10 card be supported?	03:27
hendrixski	L33tMasta, probably, there's something called cedega which allows you to play windows games on Linux... if not, you can still dual boot and use windows for gaming and Linux for all of your serious stuff like office, web, programming, etc.	03:27
Shpook	Abyssal: Yes, SANE.	03:27
initx	rm-rf: let me see if there's a way to regenerate one. might be a real problem	03:27
PKdoR	any body know if vbox is compatible with vmware VM's?	03:27
Neophos	When I opened Blender, it was suddenly nearly transparent (it's hard to impossible to read anything brighter then pure black, and you can hardly see any of the objects). Its not the transparency that's off (I can only make it even less visible that way), so any ideas?	03:27
L33tMasta	Well I want to make a total switch	03:27
Abyssal	i was able to choose that new device but error occured while trying to open the device.	03:28
Jordan_U	Neophos, Are you using compiz?	03:28
Abyssal	hp3900:libusb:005:004	03:28
rm-rf	initx: thx	03:28
Abyssal	access denied.	03:28
dissection	kristin: So it doesn't yet say the driver is enabled?	03:28
hendrixski	L33tMasta, :-) just download it at ubuntu.com and burn an ISO. It's not like burning a regular CD, you need a program to burn disk images	03:28
kenro	PKdoR: Is vbox any good?	03:28
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: is it possible that wsx is just a wrapper for wmv? i would try to download one of these videos and change the extention to wmv and see if u can fake totem or firefox into playing it that way.	03:29
L33tMasta	Well I know how do burn ISOs. I do it all from Windows Vista	03:29
kristin	dissection, it says that it is enabled	03:29
L33tMasta	withNero	03:29
hendrixski	L33tMasta, then it's as easy as putting that CD in the drive and booting up, and then clicking "install" and in a half hour BANG, you've got a brand new operating system that knocks your socks off	03:29
Shpook	Abyssal: This might be out of my range. Let me see if I can find anything on google.	03:29
Abyssal	ok.	03:29
L33tMasta	But will it support my DX10 8800GTX	03:29
Abyssal	thank you for your help.	03:29
initx	rm-rf: try vol_id --probe-all	03:29
kenro	PKdoR: vbox is a virtual machine, correct?	03:29
PKdoR	kenro: im trying to find out but it looks very promising	03:29
L33tMasta	Because I heard DX10 is vista only	03:29
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, that's what I thought... but I can play wmv's on my computer... yet I can't play the wsx... which, I think you're right, is a wrapper of some sort	03:29
Jordan_U	L33tMasta, If new DirectX games are important to you then you probably can't switch to Ubuntu ( or any other Linux distro ) at the moment	03:29
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: its winter time..his feet will get cold	03:29
Shpook	Abyssal: No problem.	03:29
Abyssal	i am a new ubuntu user you see. i mean linux at all.	03:29
PKdoR	kenro: yes just like vmware	03:30
dirkg3nt1y	any mods here?	03:30
Jordan_U	L33tMasta, Completely switch that is	03:30
duct_tape	LOLWUT	03:30
Neophos	Jordan_U - Yes, or at least it's installed by default	03:30
Shpook	Abyssal: It's okay, we were all new once.	03:30
L33tMasta	Do any distros of Linux support DX10?	03:30
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: it is either a wrapper or some form of drm, in which case u are out of luck atm in Linux	03:30
Aondo	i think games not working in linux/mac (with opengl) isnt worth playing :D	03:30
dirkg3nt1y	no forum mods?	03:30
Neophos	Jordan_U - I couldn't change the transparency levels to less bright through that, though	03:30
Jordan_U	Neophos, Try disabling it temporarily in System -> Preferences -> Appearance	03:31
rm-rf	initx: what output should i expect from that?	03:31
PKdoR	any body here use vbox?	03:31
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cabrioleur	L33tMasta: Direct X is Vista only, but it has nothing to do with using it. It's just the software side. Your card will run well.	03:31
rm-rf	initx: i'm getting a usage error if i don't specify a device, but i'm not sure which device to specify	03:31
kenro	PKdoR: I'll hafta check that out. Looking for good vpn progs.	03:31
pteague	virtualbox?	03:31
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, yeah...most likely but how do I explain that to my dad... I can't find any literature online about it	03:31
PKdoR	can I se VMware VM images on vbox?	03:32
Neophos	Jordan_U - Ah, that solved it. Thanks a lot!	03:32
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: does dads puter have the horsepower to run win2000 in virtualbox?	03:32
initx	rm-rf: that's not it. try sudo tune2fs -U random /dev/device	03:32
crdlb	Neophos: did you add a window matching rule to make your menus translucent?	03:32
L33tMasta	Well I know it's software only, but everyone goes around saying Linux can play games I thought I might try it out	03:32
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: as for splainin it to dad...um...does the vid play in Windows Media Player?	03:32
initx	rm-rf: where device is one you want to change	03:33
Jordan_U	Neophos, You should still be able to use Blender with compiz, just ask in ##compiz now that you know that is where the problem is	03:33
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, it's dual booting... but the brand new wireless card I got him is acting up	03:33
Neophos	crdlb - None that I know off	03:33
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: in windows or ubuntu or both?	03:33
crdlb	Neophos: do you have ccsm installed? (Advanced Desktop Effects Settings)	03:33
disasterpiece	have a question about raiding in ubuntu	03:33
Neophos	Jordan_U - I was able to use Blender a few days ago with compiz still active, but well, I'm not really bothered by having it turned off, so if it fixes the problem, I'm content	03:34
Forbr4d3	hendrixski: what kind of wireless card?	03:34
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, in windows... ironically. It works in Ubuntu with no problem, he somehow can't get it to connect on Windows.	03:34
rm-rf	initx: tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdc	03:34
cabrioleur	L33tMasta: wine/cedega is just trying to cheat the games that openGL is DirectX, and makes some modifications in runtime. Beside it does have support for direct x, especially cedega, but for 10 it's still not that great. In general, at least 50% of games will run.	03:34
dmb	whats it mean if it says upgrade version 0.3-0ubuntu1~ppa1 to 0.3-0ubuntu1~ppa1?	03:34
Neophos	crdlb - Nope, don't think so	03:34
dmb	its like a infinite upgrade	03:34
initx	Neophos: lots of times that's been the suggestion for fixing something, but it's never worked for me	03:34
magic_ninja	!alien	03:34
ubotu	RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)	03:34
Shpook	Abyssal: I'm sorry, I can't seem to find anything, and my time has run out.	03:34
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: i love those problems, but they are the exception...	03:34
hendrixski	Forbr4d3, Belking wireless-g... but I don't care about the card. it works in Ubuntu, if it doesn't work in Windows, whatever he'll use Ubuntu instead.... and we're better off	03:34
Abyssal	shpook. ok. thank you for your help anyway.	03:35
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, lol, yeah.	03:35
Abyssal	bye. cu	03:35
Onyx	Where does wine keep its DLL files?	03:35
Shpook	Can someone help Abyssal get his HP scanner working through SANE, if they have the time?	03:35
Forbr4d3	hendrixski: download the drivers off thier website	03:35
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: can he run windows in virtualbox?	03:35
initx	rm-rf: i believe each partition has a uuid	03:35
kenro	cabrioleur: Is that 50 % of a game, or half the games?	03:35
cabrioleur	magic_ninja: funny, apt has nothing to do with rpms or _deb_s. Ubotu is wrong :-)	03:35
initx	rm-rf: so youd do for instance tune2fs -U random /dev/sdc1	03:36
Kyle_	I'm having trouble making my pvr150 work in gutsy	03:36
rm-rf	initx: ah, ok. one sec	03:36
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, he can... but I doubt he wants to install windows if he's already dual booting... that takes like 3 hours	03:36
Forbr4d3	hendrixski: do you have native ubuntu drivers or are you using ndis wrapper?	03:36
Shpook	Abyssal: You're welcome, sorry I can't see you through to the end. Good luck.	03:36
cabrioleur	kenro: 50% will run well, others so so, and some at all.	03:36
Forbr4d3	3 hours?	03:36
Onyx	Where does wine keep its DLL files?	03:36
hendrixski	Forbr4d3, native. it just worked out of the box :-) very sweet if you ask me	03:36
Shpook	hendrixski: Glad your dad's computer is working. Take care.	03:36
initx	rm-rf: I now doubled my hard disk space with a 4gb flash drive, had to mess with uuid and stuff today	03:36
Shpook	Bye everyone.	03:36
hendrixski	Shpook, yup, now if only those wsx files cooperated	03:36
hendrixski	later	03:36
Forbr4d3	hendrixski: good	03:36
johnficca	I need to get my realtek wireless card (rtl8185L) to work at boot what should I do	03:37
rm-rf	initx: nice	03:37
kenro	cabrioleur: Coz in truth, I've only ever got 50% of any one game to run. Might be that I had an older compile...	03:37
rm-rf	initx: when i run that command, it comes back with the tune2fs version. did it now create a new uuid for me?	03:37
johnficca	I have to run two of the scripts that come with the driver to get it going after a reboot	03:37
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: windows in a vm would eliminate the need to dual boot, and there is a way to boot the native install in virtualbox, but it is wayyy geek sheek... I did it for a while till i wiped everything and installed ubuntu only, and windows as just a vm.	03:37
disasterpiece	need some help with setting up raid in ubuntu, anyone have any knowledge to spare? ;d	03:37
initx	rm-rf: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/	03:37
rromanchuk	wow im an idiot	03:38
Jordan_U	!raid \| disasterpiece	03:38
ubotu	disasterpiece: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto	03:38
cabrioleur	kenro: check the game status on wine website. Sometimes you will have to modify the setup a little bit in order to run the game.	03:38
rromanchuk	fucked up my sudoers	03:38
initx	rm-rf: if one's the same, it did nothing. otherwise all's good	03:38
rm-rf	initx: no love, it's still the same uuid	03:38
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: but if he can, that will solve his wifi problem and wsx problem	03:38
cabrioleur	rromanchuk: man sudoers	03:38
nevoeiro	hello. the process "ksoftirqd" is consuming between 20-25% of cpu. why?	03:38
rm-rf	could i possible call the disk out in grub with root=/dev/sdc1, instead of root=UUID?	03:38
cabrioleur	nevoeiro: a bug :-)	03:39
nevoeiro	:(	03:39
rromanchuk	cabrioleur: its a access problem now, should i boot recovery for root?	03:39
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, that's true... or I guess he can set up VMware to run his windows partition as a virtual machine	03:39
disasterpiece	yes ubotu, I followed the directions 5. but it still doesn't see the drives as stipped when i install. i'm completely new to this by the way	03:39
initx	rm-rf: does it also give the bad magic number error?	03:39
kenro	cabrioleur: Anyone still providing the cedega src for free? Or, God forbid, is a gpl bnary available?	03:39
LimCore	how to have /etc/init.d/dnsmasq_tor executed right after S15dnsmasq and S20tor ?	03:39
nevoeiro	cabri: and when it is preditected a fix?...	03:39
rm-rf	initx: no	03:39
disasterpiece	perhaps i am doing something wrong?	03:39
cabrioleur	rromanchuk: you can do it this way, and remount in rw, or you can fix it from the live CD.	03:40
rm-rf	initx: did you see my other query above?	03:40
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, anyways. Thanks for the help. I'm gonna poke around at the wsx thing a little bit more, and then we'll have him totally transitioned to Ubuntu... so then he won't care if he can't get the wireless to work on windows.	03:40
initx	rm-rf: the drive is unmounted, right?	03:40
Jordan_U	disasterpiece, Are you setting up a new Array or do you need to read one which has already been setup?	03:40
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: never used vmware, but that should work. I love getting ppl off windows, even if it means dogging out ubuntu to run windows ocasionally :)	03:40
cabrioleur	kenro: they do have cedega src, but compilation is a pain (never succeeded in debian/ubuntu)	03:40
rromanchuk	cabrioleur: thx	03:40
initx	rm-rf: yes, but wanted to know if the one returning just the version number threw an error	03:40
\|_James_Bond_\|	HI PPL	03:40
nevoeiro	cabrioleur: and when it is preditected a fix?...	03:40
disasterpiece	Jordan_U, it was set up previously with windows.	03:41
rm-rf	initx: no, it is not. it is currently mounted as /	03:41
rm-rf	initx: /dev/sdc1 106G 60G 42G 60% /	03:41
Jordan_U	kenro, Wine > Cediga for most things at this point	03:41
brody	!flash	03:41
ubotu	To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	03:41
ubotu	The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.	03:41
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, yep, we're all fighting the good fight here... to get people off of windows :-)	03:41
kenro	cabrioleur: actually, I did it once. Then lost my comp and when I got back I couldn't find cedega.	03:41
euskadi	i'd like a software like softcam VirtualCamera et Fakewebcam but for ubuntu	03:41
rm-rf	initx: Disk /dev/sdc: 73.4 GB, 73407820800 bytes	03:41
euskadi	does that exist ?	03:41
disasterpiece	Jordan_U, it was previously set up with windows, so i believe i'm trying to set up a new array, correct?	03:41
\|_James_Bond_\|	Some emulator of neogeo for ubuntu wanted to know if exite...	03:42
initx	rm-rf: well, i'd try on the other one, unmount it	03:42
\|_James_Bond_\|	need help	03:42
initx	rm-rf: the one that's not on /	03:42
Big-E	Hey, I just did updates on my ubuntu 7.10 server and now phpmyadmin is reporting the following error: The configuration file now needs a secret passphrase (blowfish_secret).	03:43
Big-E	Any solutions?	03:43
kenro	\|_James_Bond_\|: Join the club.	03:43
\|_James_Bond_\|	what...	03:43
\|_James_Bond_\|	jois the club for want...	03:43
Jordan_U	disasterpiece, You are setting up a new array if you have new blank HDDs or are going to reformat them, in which case it would be easier to do true soft-raid, but that does not seem to be the case for you	03:43
Big-E	..intellegent. ^^	03:43
kenro	\|_James_Bond_\|: We all need help. That's wh we hide our faces behind a computer.	03:43
ac1dfir3	does anyone know if there is a program similiar to MagicISO for linux	03:44
orchid`	im having an issue with my computer is there anyone who knows about running WINE on ubuntu?	03:44
disasterpiece	Jordan_U, the drives have been formatted.	03:44
Jordan_U	ac1dfir3, What does magicISO do?	03:44
ac1dfir3	mounts image files	03:44
ac1dfir3	i want to put vista on my Linux comp	03:44
Jordan_U	!iso \| ac1dfir3	03:44
ubotu	ac1dfir3: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.	03:44
\|_James_Bond_\|	ok	03:45
orchid`	im trying to run LastChaos using WINE and when i ebgin to ry to log into the game it says tis already runing and it fails to execute, anyone able to help?	03:45
ac1dfir3	thx ubotu	03:45
rm-rf	initx, alright, i ran that on the old disk, i'm gonna try a reboot now to see if anything changed	03:45
\|_James_Bond_\|	where for download this emulator for neo geo... from for linux ubuntu 7.1	03:45
\|_James_Bond_\|	where for download this emulator for neo geo... from for linux ubuntu 7.10	03:45
\|_James_Bond_\|	need help	03:45
kenro	\|_James_Bond_\|: Some are so far gone they must use wierd usernames that are a bitch to type.	03:46
\|_James_Bond_\|	this program this work form emulator for neogeo...	03:46
kenro	\|_James_Bond_\|: Don't mind me. I'm just the local troll.	03:46
Pici	\|_James_Bond_\|: What program?	03:47
qqq	a distributed system.	03:47
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: heres info I found via google on wsx files, searching for "wsx file" http://filext.com/file-extension/WSX . Looks like it is indeed a wrapper. Maybe theres a windows app that u can install with Wine to play them.	03:47
\|_James_Bond_\|	need this emulator for games this neogeo from this unbuntu...	03:48
astro76	\|_James_Bond_\|, http://gngeo.berlios.de/	03:48
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, hhmmm, wine, there's an idea	03:48
Pici	\|_James_Bond_\|: Would a portuguese channel be more help perhaps?	03:48
Big-E	Is there anyway to revert back to before I did a 'sudo apt-get update' ?	03:48
Pici	!pt \| \|_James_Bond_\|	03:48
ubotu	\|_James_Bond_\|: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.	03:48
WorkingOnWis1	hendrixski: wine was what got me off windows as a daily OS...we live wine....and cheddar	03:49
disasterpiece	Jordan_U, any ieas?	03:49
initx	rm-rf: yeah, did it appear to work?	03:49
hendrixski	WorkingOnWis1, lol. I lke that. wine and cheddar	03:50
WorkingOnWis1	:)	03:50
disasterpiece	!true soft raid	03:50
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about true soft raid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:50
kenro	WorkingOnWis1: Cheddar goes best with Trisket. and mead.	03:50
disasterpiece	!truesoftraid	03:50
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about truesoftraid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:50
rm-rf	initx: not sure yet, still booting	03:50
disasterpiece	!softraid	03:50
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about softraid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:50
WorkingOnWis1	kenro: hehe	03:51
marktravis	arkrosoft	03:51
kenro	WorkingOnWis1: I say that, coz I'm eating it rihr now.	03:51
rm-rf	initx: alright, the machine is back up, lemme check it out	03:51
WorkingOnWis1	gotta go room. The wife need the bandwidth for important stuff now....	03:51
WorkingOnWis1	namly World of Warcraft	03:51
Caphi	Question	03:51
Caphi	I am trying to add a printer over the network	03:52
initx	rm-rf: usually these little things are the biggest of migraines	03:52
Tezasaurus	Can I install an older version of Flash on Ubuntu/Firefox since the new one is broked?	03:52
dorkface	Hi all. Is anyone familiar with rsync?	03:52
magic_ninja	!pygtk	03:52
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about pygtk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:52
Abyssal	shpood	03:52
Abyssal	???	03:52
disasterpiece	anyone know how i can dmraid load on startup?	03:52
kenro	Good God people. You swear off MS and then get ropedright back in by a 12-year-old game!	03:52
Caphi	Printer?	03:53
troythetechguy	I created my 1st cronjob, but where should I place the file so it executes?	03:53
Caphi	I'm trying to add one.	03:53
disasterpiece	errr i worded that wrong	03:53
Caphi	I'm not sure exactly how to go about it.	03:53
astro76	troythetechguy, crontab -e to edit your crontab	03:54
disasterpiece	anyone know how i can make dmraid to load on startup and setup my drive mounting?	03:54
troythetechguy	astro76, Thanks.	03:54
magic_ninja	whats the pygtk package name in ubuntu	03:56
hatter_	what is the name of the package with the mysql header files ?	03:56
kenro	I'm still confused on how to enable kpovmodeller to use textures.	03:56
Pici	magic_ninja: python-gtk2?	03:56
rm-rf	initx: i think i have it figured out, however, i can't seem to find the correct uuid of my swap partition so that i can update /etc/fstab	03:56
rm-rf	initx: any ideas?	03:57
disasterpiece	anyone know how i can make dmraid to load on startup and setup my drive mounting?	03:57
kenro	Does anyone here know?	04:00
Sepheebear	rm-rf: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid	04:00
rm-rf	initx: yeah, the old swap shows up there, but not the new one	04:01
rm-rf	sorry, that was meant for Sepheebear	04:01
katharos	Hi, i have a bt878 video capture card and i have no /dev/video0 i think it's because the card was added after i installed, because i havn't seen this problem before with this card.	04:01
dan2	where can I get some release candidate cds of xubuntu for the next release	04:01
KlrSpz	yay for sucessful masquerading!	04:01