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04:45xhhuxhello
05:36xhhuxhello is anyone here?
05:37Hobbseeno
05:37xhhuxLIAR!
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14:45Syntux@schedule
14:45ubottuSyntux: Schedule for Etc/UTC: 27 May 20:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 06:00: Platform Team | 28 May 17:00: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 21:00: Server Team | 29 May 01:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 13:00: Desktop Team
15:19leoquant@schedule amsterdam
15:19ubottuleoquant: Schedule for Europe/Amsterdam: 27 May 22:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 08:00: Platform Team | 28 May 19:00: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 23:00: Server Team | 29 May 03:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 15:00: Desktop Team
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16:37Styx`@schedule vilnius
16:37ubottuStyx`: Schedule for Europe/Vilnius: 27 May 23:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 09:00: Platform Team | 28 May 20:00: Launchpad users meeting | 29 May 00:00: Server Team | 29 May 04:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 16:00: Desktop Team
16:40zul@schedule montreal
16:40ubottuzul: Schedule for America/Montreal: 27 May 16:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 02:00: Platform Team | 28 May 13:00: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 17:00: Server Team | 28 May 21:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 09:00: Desktop Team
16:57RoAkSoAx@schedule lima
16:57ubottuRoAkSoAx: Schedule for America/Lima: 27 May 15:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 01:00: Platform Team | 28 May 12:00: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 16:00: Server Team | 28 May 20:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 08:00: Desktop Team
17:09Syntux@schedule Amman
17:09ubottuSyntux: Schedule for Asia/Amman: 27 May 23:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 09:00: Platform Team | 28 May 20:00: Launchpad users meeting | 29 May 00:00: Server Team | 29 May 04:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 16:00: Desktop Team
17:10RoAkSoAxSyntux, you'll have to wait few more hours, be patience :P
17:13Myrtti♥ christel
17:37dfiloni@schedule rome
17:37ubottudfiloni: Schedule for Europe/Rome: 27 May 22:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 08:00: Platform Team | 28 May 19:00: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 23:00: Server Team | 29 May 03:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 15:00: Desktop Team
19:02Seveasjenda, you can renew yourself, no need for approval :)
19:11ke|phi
19:13Myrttihello
19:15jpdske|p: ohh, here for membership?
19:15ke|pyes
19:16pochuhola ke|p :)
19:16ke|phola pochu
19:16ke|p:D
19:17pochuis there a list for people applying for membership anywhere?
19:17stgraberpochu: sure
19:17jpdspochu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA
19:17ke|phttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA
19:17ke|pups
19:17pochuthanks :)
19:17stgraberthey were faster than me :) (I just had the time to start FF3)
19:17pochuhey stgraber!
19:18stgraberhi pochu
19:18stgraberenjoyed Prague ?
19:19pochuyeah, it was great :)
19:19dfiloni_hi pochu :)
19:19Seveashamslaai, your wikipage is empty, please put some content on it
19:19pochuuh, ~ubuntu-membership-board-emea, what a weird name ;)
19:19Seveaspochu, why?
19:19affluxany ideas when the next emea meeting will be held?
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19:19Syntux@schedule
19:19ubottuSyntux: Schedule for Etc/UTC: 27 May 20:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 06:00: Platform Team | 28 May 17:00: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 21:00: Server Team | 29 May 01:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 13:00: Desktop Team
19:19Seveasafflux, in about 100 minutes
19:20Seveas@now
19:20ubottuSeveas: Current time in Etc/UTC: May 27 2008, 18:21:36 - Next meeting: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board in 1 hour 38 minutes
19:20Myrttioooo
19:20affluxSeveas: sorry, the one after that one ;)
19:20Myrttiscary
19:20pochuSeveas: because it's weird? :P I was hoping for ~ubuntu-europe or ~ubuntu-europe-council or similar...
19:20Seveaspochu, it's more than europe, it's the emea region :)
19:20stgraberpochu: we don't only cover europe so ...
19:20pochu(and why is middle-east here and not in the asia one?)
19:20Myrttitimezones
19:21pochuthen ~ubuntu-emea-council maybe? :)
19:21Seveaspochu, fairly standard in the business world: americas, emea, australasia
19:21pochuMyrtti: ah, makes sense
19:21pochuSeveas: oh, really? It's the first time I hear that :) But I'm not in the business world so... ;)
19:21SeveasMyrtti, what's scary?
19:21MyrttiSeveas: that it's that little time anymore
19:21pochu@now
19:21ubottupochu: Current time in Etc/UTC: May 27 2008, 18:23:16 - Next meeting: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board in 1 hour 36 minutes
19:21Seveaspochu, hehe. I work for captain kirk :)
19:23hamslaaiseveas i did i will check
19:23stgraberSeveas: btw, do we have a secretary for tonight's meeting ?
19:24Seveasstgraber, I'll volunteer
19:24phanaticSeveas: thank you :)
19:24Seveashave already read all the wikipages (except hamslaai's ;))
19:24stgraberSeveas: thanks, one problem solved :)
19:24afflux.oO ( no ideas on the meeting after today's? )
19:24SeveasMost candidates are really good. I have my doubts about a few
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19:24awalton__Seveas, hopefully not doubting me :(
19:24Seveasafflux, that will be decided today
19:25pochuSeveas: about jenda?
* pochu runs :)
19:25ke|phaha
19:25Seveaspochu, yes. He should be shot for even bothering us with it. Just hit the extend membership button dammit ;)
19:25hamslaaiseveas: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HiltonGibson
19:25Syntuxhmm, once you ghost a nickname; nickserv shouldn't ask you to identify the same nickname again.
19:25affluxah I see... sorry, just a bit curious because I sort of missed today's
19:25Seveashamslaai, ah, then please fix the agenda wikipage to point there
19:25pochuSeveas: heh, I guess he wants some meeting time... I'm waiting for expiration to come again ;)
19:26Seveasawalton__, I don't see you on the agenda
19:26pochujenda: I've heard you came to the hotel... too bad I didn't know you were there :(
19:26hamslaaiseveas: ok i am used to mediawiki
19:26stgraberSeveas: yep, same here ... some really good ones and some others that I'll really need to hear to get an opinion
19:26awalton__Seveas, north america.. thought I added myself to the wiki last week
19:26Seveasawalton__, ah, this is emea -- americas is later
19:26Seveas@schedulw
19:26Seveas@schedule
19:26ubottuSeveas: Schedule for Etc/UTC: 27 May 20:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 06:00: Platform Team | 28 May 17:00: Launchpad users meeting | 28 May 21:00: Server Team | 29 May 01:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 13:00: Desktop Team
19:27Seveasamericas is in 2 days
19:27awalton__Seveas, doh!
* awalton__ can be a moron some days...
19:27Seveasawalton__, :)
19:27Seveasawalton__, so yeah, I'm having my doubts about you :-)
19:27hamslaaiseveas: i remember now. the link is on my launchpad profile
19:27awalton__Seveas, hehe, yeah me too now
19:29Seveasawalton__, what's your wikipage
19:30awalton__Seveas, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Awalton. anything I can add there that might be helpful I'd like to know
19:31Seveasawalton__, you're focusing on upstream achievements instead of ubuntu achievement
19:31Seveasthe councils are looking for (evidence of) a sustained and significant contribution to ubuntu. While upstream contributions are of course also ubuntu contributions, councils are looking for more direct contributions
19:32awalton__just not sure really how to document my ubuntu work.. I've mostly just been triaging/forwarding bugs and helping in the forums..
19:32Seveaskudos on gvfs though :)
19:32Seveaslink to your forum profile, explain what you do there, get forum staff to vouch for you
19:33Seveasand do the same for other bugteam members
19:33Seveasyou have 2 days :)
19:33awalton__alright, thanks a bunch
19:37hamslaaiseveas: agenda page link updated to point to wiki page for profile details.
19:38Seveashamslaai, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA still has the old link
19:39Myrttieeep
19:39Seveashamslaai, and tbh, that page is really thin on info. I don't think you'll be accepted for membership like that. Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/kelp for instance to see what a wikipage should look like (the way contributions are presented, not the actual contributions)
19:40Myrtti/me looks at Seveas (ö_ö)
19:41ke|p:D
19:41Myrttipliz
19:41SeveasMyrtti, yours is better than hamslaai's but if I didn't know you I'd ask for more
19:42Myrtti/me goes to fiddle
19:42jpdsSeveas: ke|p++
19:42devfilSeveas: and my page? please :D
19:43Syntuxare you spreading blesses on wiki pages?
19:44devfil?
19:44devfillol
19:45Seveasdevfil, I don't like lists of packages on peoples pages. They often make contributions look very small. One or two extra vouches from existing MOTU would have been better. Also, a cheer from the italian newsletter team would be nice
19:45SeveasSyntux, well, people are asking for comments and I'm giving them :)
19:45SeveasLet it be clear that I'm *not* commenting on contributions, just on the pages
19:45devfilSeveas: ok
19:47Seveasgood wikipages make meetings go faster
19:47devfilSeveas: I should remove lists of packages?
19:47SeveasI've seen several wikipages, that make me give an instant +1
19:47Seveasdevfil, neh, leave them in there, but try to get those cheers
19:48Myrtti*sigh*
19:48SeveasMyrtti, 'sup?
19:48hamslaaiseveas: ok, try the links now.
19:48MyrttiSeveas: oh nothing, I guess
19:49SyntuxSeveas, thought you were giving Instruments of forgiveness. ;)
19:49SeveasSyntux, neh, I've left the LART at work
19:49devfilSeveas: Salvatore is from Newsletter, it is editing is cheer. Now I'm looking for other MOTU and at 20 I will have some other sponsors from other italian group (I hope)
19:50Syntuxheh :-)
19:50Seveasdevfil, excellent :)
19:50MyrttiI honestly don't know what else to add.
19:50Myrtti:-<
19:51SeveasI'll add a cheer
19:51MyrttiI'll go and whimper in my little corner with my guinea pig
19:51SyntuxSeveas, and mine?
19:51SeveasSyntux, I always find it hard to judge people whose major contributions are advocacy
19:52Seveasadvocacy is very important but hard to measure
19:53SyntuxI agree, it's hard to measure it.
19:55SeveasSyntux, with your wikipage as is (and with no further info), I'd say -1 to your application. I think having more testimonials is necessary if your main contribution is advocacy
19:55SeveasI've seen you in the community for a long time, so I know a -1 isn't justified, but that wikipage does need a bit more info/testimonials imho
19:56Seveasget testimonials from your locoteam members, link to your loco website/(forum?)
19:56SyntuxSeveas, I'm waiting for more people of that kind who can measure advocacy
19:57SyntuxSeveas, I didn't know I can get testimonials from loCo members, though it's exclusive to @ubuntu members so I didn't ask for any.
19:58SeveasSyntux, neh, testimonials are just cheers from people who think you do good work. Testimonials from 'known' people will be valued higher by people who read them (at least that's what I do) but testimonials from others are good as well, especially if you're the first from your loco to become member
19:59hamslaaiseveas: wiki updated, see references heading.
19:59SyntuxSeveas, I see, well if it didn't work today I will hunt for testimonials for sure
20:00Seveashamslaai, I'm afraid that reference means nothing to the council -- it doesn't mention any ubuntu contributions
20:01SyntuxSeveas, from philosophical point of view; it's hard to measure technical efforts too; one of the main factor to consider is the time given and efforts regardless of the type of contribution.
20:01hamslaaiseveas: ok, no train smash, will keep on trucking. cheers
20:01SeveasSyntux, very true, see also my comment about lists of packages I gave earlier
20:02SeveasSyntux, that's why I personally always focus on testimonials from others. Thinks like karma, forum stats etc... are a nice check but testimonials from people I know usually weigh heavier
20:03Seveasof course if I know a candidate (like Myrtti or Pici) I don't need references :)
20:03Myrtti♥
20:04SeveasMyrtti, that doesn't mean I'll vote +1 :p
20:04Myrtti:-P
20:04Syntuxheh
20:04IulianIs that a heart?
20:04Myrttino lollipops for you then, Seveas :-P
20:04SeveasMyrtti, bribing me is a tad more expensive than that :p
20:04SeveasIcecream!
20:04SyntuxBy the way, who can vote ? only the council or any ubuntu member.
20:04Seveasthe emea council only
20:05Myrttichocolate-chocolate chip or something more fancypancy?
20:05Seveascookie dough!
20:05Myrttiuuu
20:06Styx`@now
20:06ubottuStyx`: Current time in Etc/UTC: May 27 2008, 19:07:50 - Next meeting: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board in 52 minutes
20:06Myrttioh dear *shivers*
20:07SeveasMyrtti, you're way down in the list. *if* we reach that part of the list it'll be almost two hours after the start :)
20:08awalton__Myrtti, really that nervous? you can always try again :)
20:08Myrtti/me bought fair trade instant coffee today
20:08SyntuxThere is $500 re-take policy
20:08MyrttiI've also got a kilo jar full of candies
20:09Syntuxon some exams :-)
20:12Seveasexams schmexams
20:12Seveasthis 'exam' isn't what you know, it's about what you have done
20:12Seveasso whether you pass or fail is already known :)
20:12Myrtti"I've annoyed Seveas"
20:12Myrtti/me runs
20:12SeveasMyrtti, that's instant membership :)
* stgraber wonders how many candidate we'll be able to hear during the 1h30 we have for the meeting
20:17Seveasif we do one every 5 minutes, we can do 18
20:17Seveasand I don't see us doing one every 5 minutes :)
20:17Mirvhmmkay, a cheers section. if mvo, tjaalton or someone else I met at UDS or otherwise knows me, please add your cheers to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimoJyrinki
20:17stgraberme neither
20:18Mirv(if someone is awake, that is)
20:18ograyeah 3 are plenty
20:18ogra:P
20:18Seveasogra, for some people yes, some wikipages are good enough
20:19MirvMyrtti: can we cheer each other?-) no?
20:19SeveasMirv, why not?
20:19ograyeah that exposes good team spirit :)
20:20Seveasdo we only have 90 minutes?
20:20stgraberthat's what's on the fridge at least
20:20stgraberand I won't be able to stay much longer anyway
20:20Syntux@schedule Amman
20:20ubottuSyntux: Schedule for Asia/Amman: 27 May 23:00: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 28 May 09:00: Platform Team | 28 May 20:00: Launchpad users meeting | 29 May 00:00: Server Team | 29 May 04:00: Americas Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 29 May 16:00: Desktop Team
20:20MyrttiMirv: I gave jussi01 and Tm_T a permission to kick me in the leg if I even whince when you're up :-D
20:20Seveaswe'll need to rush then. I do like the idea of having a 5-minute timelimit though :)
20:21Myrttibut if it's ok...
20:22Myrttisince _Seveas_ said it's ok...
20:23stgraberSeveas: would be fun (the 5-minute timelimit) but probably not fair for non-native (or like-native) speakers :)
20:23MyrttiMirv: shame on you for having such a fancypancy wikipage
20:23Seveasstgraber, true
20:23SeveasMyrtti, well Mirv is obviously way better than you
20:25MirvMyrtti: hehe. I tried to figure out what I've actually been doing and summarize it.
20:25MyrttiSeveas: I know
20:25MyrttiSeveas: he should
20:25Myrtti/me curtzies
20:27Myrttido signatures work like they do in MediaWiki?
20:27MyrttiI've been on wikivacation for such a long time I didn't even remember how bold was done
20:28evalles_@now
20:28ubottuevalles_: Current time in Etc/UTC: May 27 2008, 19:29:34 - Next meeting: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board in 30 minutes
20:28Myrttihad to cheat and look from the Formatting guide
20:29ke|pMyrtti, I think ["nick"] is enought
20:29Myrttioh doodles.
20:29Myrttiok
20:31Myrttihm, my virtual server's time must be wrong...
20:32Myrttioh, right. seconds...
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20:43ke|phi effie_jayx :D
20:44quadrisprohi totopalma
20:44totopalmaquadrispro, hi :)
20:44devfilhi totopalma, quadrispro :)
20:44quadrisprototopalma: hw r u?
20:45quadrisprohi devfil :D
20:45totopalmadevfil, olà
20:45totopalmaquadrispro, bho
20:45RicardoPerezke|p: natacha?
20:45quadrisprototopalma: ...
20:46totopalma:D
20:46ke|pyeahh
20:46ke|phi RicardoPerez
20:46quadrisprohi all
20:46RicardoPerezke|p: hi!
20:46ke|p:)
20:47quadrisprodevfil: are you improved with hold'em?
20:48mantienahi all
20:48Myrttihullo
20:48quadrisprodevfil: ti ho chiesto se sei migliorato a poker...
20:48Seveashi mantiena
20:48quadrispromah!
20:48SeveasHi all! The EMEA regional membership board meeting will start soon. All candidates, please open a text editor and write a 3-line intro about yourself to paste when it's your turn.
20:48mantienaok
20:49devfilquadrispro: lol NO,
20:49quadrisprototopalma, are yuo able to play hold'em?
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20:49Myrtti/me considers starting an editor war to keep the anxiety at bay
20:49Myrtti:->
20:49SeveasMyrtti, vimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvim
20:49mantienaSeveas: could I just paste some text from my wiki ?;)
20:49Seveasmantiena, if it's a nice intro, sure
20:50MyrttiSeveas: only if you promise to teach me vim while sitting next to me ;-) otherwise emacs.
20:50Myrtti:->
20:50ke|ponly 3 lines? haha
20:50SeveasMyrtti, sure :)
20:51Seeker`wow, itsa Seveas
20:51SeveasMyrtti, come to Amsterdam and I'll happily teach you vim
20:51quadrisprohi Gwaihir
20:52Gwaihirhello quadrispro
20:52quadrisproGwaihir: hw r u this evening?
20:52Myrtti/me considers to whine to Mirv about "can I go see Seveas in Amsterdam" but then realizes this isn't the right place or time
20:52devfilhello Gwaihir
20:52Seeker`Seveas: how are you doing?
20:53Seveaspopey, stgraber, phanatic, PriceChild: here?
20:53PriceChildI'm here
20:53stgraberyep
20:53phanaticyep
20:53SeveasMatt is matthelmke on irc, right?
20:53PriceChildFew more expected no?
20:53PriceChildnope
20:53Seveasah
20:54popeymoo
20:54PriceChildforumsmatthew i think
20:54Seveaslaunchpad agrees
20:55PriceChildbtw the cc will do the launchpad additions after our little report to them
20:55SeveasPriceChild, ah, we don't do that ourselves?
20:56PriceChildsabdfl said that will be delegated to us in a little
20:56Seveashi forumsmatthew
20:56Mirv3 lines ie. 240 chars, ok.
20:56forumsmatthewhello
20:56forumsmatthewdid I make it on time?
20:56popeyyes
20:56forumsmatthewwoo hoo!
20:56stgraber#
20:56stgraberReport successful membership candidates to the UbuntuWeeklyNews and add a short summary for each member (which should be taken from the candidate's personal wikipage).
20:56PriceChildI thought I would check it with them just in case
20:56stgraber#
20:56stgraberBetween May and July 2008, board secretaries are also responsible for reporting approved candidates to the CommunityCouncil, to evaluate the approval system.
20:57PriceChildwhat stgraber said... 8-)
20:57stgraberPriceChild: so according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards, the secretary is supposed to approve on LP + report to the CC
20:58SeveasHi all! The EMEA regional membership board meeting will start soon. All candidates, please open a text editor and write a 3-line intro about yourself to paste when it's your turn.
20:58quadrisprodevfil: are you ready?
20:59Seveas6/7 of the board is here. Did mark say he couldn't make it?
20:59PriceChildstgraber: I tried to get in touch with the cc, making sure they were aware of the meeting so that they could attend if needed, and sabdfl said what I've said above today.
20:59PriceChildHe sent me a mail saying he might be able to catch the end iirc.
21:00Seveas@now
21:00ubottuSeveas: Current time in Etc/UTC: May 27 2008, 20:01:48 - Current meeting: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board
21:00Seveasshall we start?
21:00jussi01yep
21:00stgraberPriceChild: ok, wiki should be updated then ...
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* PriceChild thinks Seveas is volunteering for secretary this week
21:00SeveasPriceChild, yup
21:00PriceChildWow that was easy :D
21:00forumsmatthewready here to start
21:01forumsmatthewThanks, Seveas
21:01SeveasHi all! Welcome to the EMEA regional membership board meeting. All candidates, please open a text editor and write a 3-line intro about yourself.
21:01SeveasWe will try and process as many applications as we can, but we cannot guarantee that we will porcess all candidates. I will call your nickname when it's your turn.
21:01SeveasGood luck all member candidates, nand: you're up first!
21:01nandhi!
21:01nandOk, here is my small presentation:
21:01nandMy name is Nicolas Deschildre, I'm 22, and I'm finishing my computer studies by working in a small Linux company
21:01nandmaking simplified computers for elderly people. Oh, and I also happen to be an Ubuntu fan!
21:01nandSo far, my contributions have been a package uploaded to Universe and the implementation of Ubuntu Brainstorm
21:01nand(with the great help of stgraber for testing, administrating, sysadmin-pinging,...).
21:01nandMy plans for the future are mainly around Brainstorm: while some points are quite good, Brainstorm still need some work on several areas.
21:01nandThat's the shorter I could do :)
21:01Seveashow did the brainstorm sessions at UDS go?
21:02nandI was only at the one during FOSScamp
21:02stgraberhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NicolasDeschildre
21:02Seveaswhat's the opinion of Ubuntu developers on Brainstorm?
21:03Seveas'firehose' or 'source of terrific ideas' or somewhere in between?
21:03nandwell, they basically want some triaging :)
21:03Seveascan't say that's unnecessary :)
21:03nandat the moment, it is not easy to cherry pick the really good ones
21:03jcastroI still have to throw up the brainstorm gobby notes someplace
21:04nandand also there will be some work necessary so that upstream people can easily access their ideas
21:04stgraberjcastro: from UDS or FOSSCamp ?
21:04nandsince 90% of ideas concerns directly upstream!
21:05Seveasnand, that's a useful statistic by itself
21:05nandSeveas: That's just a rough estimate
21:05nandbut a good majority do concerns upstream
21:05SeveasI'm leaning towards a +1. Anyone want to convince me otherwise?
21:06PriceChildnand: where do you see the brainstorm in 6 months time?
21:06phanatic+1 from me as well. great job done with brainstorm.
21:06jcastrostgraber: from both actually, the uds sessions were just a repeat of what we discussed basically.
21:06forumsmatthewI see a lot of positives and nothing negative to comment on... I"m +1
21:06l3onCiao / Hi all!
21:06stgraber+1 from me too
21:06stgraberjcastro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/FossCamp/Brainstorm (That's FOSSCamp)
21:07lukehasnonameForgive my ignorance, and IE isn't rendering the Fridge at work. What are we voting on? Briefly, I understand you are in a meeting.
21:07popeyfor the good work nand has done getting the community involved in brainstorm, +1 from me
21:07nandPriceChild: in 6 months, there will be some more features to categorize ideas (by project, tags), and a project-neutral release
21:07popeylukehasnoname: member applications
21:07Seeker`lukehasnoname: people becoming ubuntu members. It is only members of the board that vote
21:07PriceChildcool, that last bit sounds fun :P
21:07lukehasnonameFor the EMEA region?
21:07SeveasPriceChild, +1/0/-1?
21:07Seveaslukehasnoname, yes
21:07PriceChildSounds good to me, +1.
21:07lukehasnoname10-4, back to observation
21:08SeveasThat's 6 +'es, congratulations!
21:08nandgreat \o/
21:08Seveascorenominal, you're up!
21:08popeywell done nand
21:08corenominalHello everyone :) Sorry for the waffle, here goes...
21:08corenominalHello everyone :) My name is Philip Newborough: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhilipNewborough  I am 33 years old and I live in Lincoln, United Kingdom. I am now a member of the Ubuntu UK LoCo team. I started writing about my Ubuntu related activities on my blog http://crunchbang.org and I have been actively promoting the use of Ubuntu via online marketing campaigns, "A Merry Ubuntu Christmas"  http://tinyurl.com/5pf2yg & "Random Ubuntu Advocacy" h
21:08corenominalttp://tinyurl.com/2m8o2h
21:08corenominalI have also released a remastered version of Ubuntu named CrunchBang Linux  http://crunchbang.org/projects/linux/  The distribution is based around the Openbox window manager and ROX file manager. I hope that by releasing the distro I have encouraged more people to experiment with Ubuntu and alternative software available in the Ubuntu repositories...
21:08corenominalI believe I have much to offer the Ubuntu community. I think my biggest opportunity lies in online marketing and promotion. I have several projects which I would like to begin and I think that becoming an Ubuntu member would enable me maximise my contributions by providing a launchpad for future marketing/promotion efforts.
21:08Seveas(If I appear to be rushing: I am, we have lots of candidates :))
21:08corenominal:D
21:09popeyi am aware of Phils work, so he gets a +1 from me
21:09corenominalthanks popey :)
21:09forumsmatthewI've been reading about CrunchBang... I'm +1
21:09PriceChildWhere do I know crunchbang from?
21:10popeyPriceChild: syndicated on planet ubuntu-uk
21:10SeveasMost of the wikipage is about crunchbang and ppa, not about contribs to ubuntu -- or am I reading it wrong?
21:10forumsmatthewPriceChild, perhaps from the beginning of all shell scripts?
21:11corenominalSeveas, you're reading it wrong :P
21:11forumsmatthew#!/bin/bash
21:11Seveascorenominal, then explain :)
21:12corenominalsure, might help if you could ask questions, but hey, maybe you are right, I guess it depends on what/how you evaluate contributions
21:13PriceChildMost of your launchpad karma comes from answers? How're all the bugsquad/universe contributors things going? :)
21:13Seveascorenominal, are the things you've put in your PPA integrated with Ubuntu or are there plans to do so?
21:14corenominalyes, I've just recently been working with a Debian developer to move some of my package from PPA directly to Debian
21:14corenominaland from Debian to Ubuntu
21:14Seveasand are you planning to make crunchbang an official ubuntu derivative like xubuntu?
21:14Seveaskudos for taking the debian route!
21:15corenominalwell, I'm currently working towards building meta packages for CrunchBang
21:15corenominalbut..
21:15corenominalas for official, I can't really say, something I'd need to look into
21:15corenominalbut it would be nice
21:16Seveassounds good
21:16Seveas+1 from me
21:16Seveasstgraber, phanatic PriceChild ?
21:16corenominalit has had lots of good feedback, so I guess there is a need somewhere
21:16Seveascorenominal, I'm definitely going to try it -- a nice working openbox environment would be nice to have
21:17stgraber+1 for packaging and all the distro work
21:17corenominalgood luck :D take heed of the disclaimer ;)
21:17popeyheh
21:17Seveascorenominal, scratch hardware needs no disclaimer
21:17phanatici'm convinced. +1 (and +0.5 for taking the debian route :))
21:17Seveasgood thing about working where I do: an abundance of spare laptops
21:17corenominallol
21:18popey"spare" :)
21:18Seeker`Seveas: how spare? :P
21:18stgrabercorenominal: are you in touch with MOTUs, do you plan to become one ?
21:18corenominalyeah, working with madduck has been quite an eye opener
21:18Seveaspopey, I'd call that flase quoting
21:18SeveasPriceChild, still awake?
21:18PriceChildI am indeedy, just investigating.
21:19SeveasPriceChild, k
21:19SeveasI hoped everybody had read the wikipages in advance -- that helps :)
21:19corenominalI have toyed with MOTU and REVU, but need more time, it's a slow process as I don't always get the time I'd like to work on packaging
21:19PriceChildI'm evil and am going to give a 0 atm I'm afraid.
21:20popeynot evil PriceChild
21:20corenominalbut I enjoy it, it's fun and lots to learn
21:20SeveasPriceChild, not evil at all, everyone can have his opinion
21:20corenominalnp PriceChild
21:20corenominal:)
21:20Seveaswould you care to elaborate a bit?
21:20PriceChildI want to see that ppa going somewhere, and packages turning up in ubuntu or debian, do you have any urls for their progress in debian?
21:21PriceChildbut i guess membership based on those should be through the universe contributors, ignore me about that bit
21:21corenominalsorry, no. Only private emails.
21:22Seveasok, so that's 6+ and one 0
21:22Seveasyou still made it, so congratulations :)
21:22SeveasSyntux, you're up!
* Syntux blood pressure 100+
21:22Syntuxwell, Nothing fancy other than my own cynical introduction :d
21:22SyntuxA 28 years old Middle Eastern Linux extremist with a B.A in political science and law. I’m addicted to programming by decision so I’m not looking for a rehab. I do blog and Photograph and in my free time, I’m just a human. Started using Ubuntu since the release of Warty Warthog, Ubuntu solved many of my problems so I'm devoting time to contribute to the community. To me FLOSS is way of living rather than anything else.
21:22SyntuxSorry but It happens that I'm a linux extremist and a Middle Eastern ;)
21:22corenominalthank you everyone :)
21:23Syntuxoh one more thing, currently I'm preparing for UCP exam (scheduled in June) and my main contribution is advocacy and training. (reported around 15 bug on UCP material; happens to be by email since there is no LP for it.) and working on getting a Local mirror of Ubuntu with the National Information Center (the backbone!), helping some computer stores in understand what ubuntu is all about and maybe helping them in getting their hardware certified.
21:23forumsmatthewالسلام عليكم
21:23forumsmatthew:)
21:23SyntuxUCP bugs were sent to Yanick, Billy and Torsten.
21:23Syntuxforumsmatthew, و عليكم السلام :-)
21:25SeveasI'm going on a -1 for Syntux I'm afraid. I know he's been active but his wikipage shows very little "evidence" of that. I'd like the to be expanded a bit more, with more testimonials and links to achievements. I'm pretty confident Syntux will be a good member but we need to be able to show why we think that
21:25Seveas(see also the chat I had with Syntux before the meeting)
* Syntux pressuretool | grep Thermal -> not ok 90 c
21:26PriceChildAre there any cheerers from your LoCo here?
21:26SyntuxSeveas, I got one more testimonial minutes ago.
21:26forumsmatthewI do see that Syntux is a leader in the Jordon LoCo. Could you elaborate on that a bit? What has the LoCo done, how many members, etc.?
21:27Syntuxforumsmatthew, we have around 10 active members and by members here I mean active and contributers to the team
21:27Syntuxour approval application can tell more https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JordanTeam/ApprovalApplication
21:27popeythis session is more about you than the loco to be fair
21:28Syntuxpopey, I do understand that but I was answering forumsmatthew question.
21:29forumsmatthewOn your Launchpad page you list involvement with translation into Arabic. What specifically have you translated (if anything so far)?
21:29popeyyeah, i just didn't want us to go down that road
21:29Syntuxforumsmatthew, not a single full application but bits in many applications.
21:30Syntuxnamely gnome-session phatch update-manager pidgin schooltool yelp
21:30Seveastranslation karma is 103
21:31Syntuxbeagle, gmount-iso, dpkg, gaim (that's old), , vlc, netapplet
21:31PriceChildLots more karma on answers.
21:31Seveasyup
21:32Syntuxyeah
* Syntux tick tok tick tok tick tok
21:33popeyi see only 15 answers on your page or am I missing something?
21:33popeyhttps://answers.edge.launchpad.net/~jad/
21:33Seveashmm
21:33Syntuxpopey, you are right.
21:34Seveasso answers give lots of karma
21:34Seveasinteresting
21:34popeyit does
21:34SyntuxSeveas, only if it's answered in the same day of question.
21:34stgraberpopey: you probably only see the one in english ?
21:34Syntuxstgraber, I did not answer any in Arabic; actually I didn't see any question in arabic.
21:35stgraberok
21:36forumsmatthewI like what I see. I'm not sure I see enough of it yet to make me comfortable bestowing membership.
21:36forumsmatthewThe future looks good, though
21:36Seveascan we please see votes? there are lots of candidates still waiting
21:36PriceChildI think I'm going to echo Seveas above with a -1.
21:36popey-1
21:36phanaticit'll be a 0 from me
21:36forumsmatthew-1 for now. Please continue on the current path and reapply later
21:37forumsmatthewI would love to give a plus one in the future
21:37stgraberFor me as Seveas said the wiki page gives me no evidence of the work Syntux did and don't get me wrong, I'm sure Syntux did a lot of work. So I'm giving -1 for the moment and wait for him to come back soon.
21:37Seveasok, all votes are counted. Syntux I'm sorry but you'll have to try again later. I can work with you on that wikipage if you want
21:37SeveasMirv, you're up
21:38MirvI'm Timo Jyrinki, 29, M.Sc in tech, a FLOSS enthusiast & the founder and team contact for Ubuntu Finland. Soon to be Debian Developer (AM approved). Contributed among else i18n bug fixes, translations, integration of my 5 debian packages (Finnish spellchecking) to ubuntu main and part of official Ubuntu's Finnish support, done a lot (fi-site/wiki/forums, press releases, CD spreading, ...) to spread Ubuntu in Finland and help users.
21:38Syntuxit's ok. Thank you guys.
21:38MirvI'm also press contact for fi-wikipedia which has gotten mainstream media coverage about everywhere around here -> trying to also mention the freedom aspect of it and free software. Founded vapaasuomi.fi (libre Finland) which covers both free software and content.
21:38MirvMet many people at UDS-Intrepid. Done a lot of LP bug report handling/cleaning, investigating whatever interests me. I18N fixes lately include reporting/organizing fixing of some very visible ones in our installer (8.04 is good, 8.04.1 is going to be perfect!), providing i18n-fixed bzr branches or PPA packages of eg. hwtest (whole UI), brasero (menu item), nm-applet (nm-editor whole UI), policykit-gnome (whole UI). All fixed in hardy.
21:38Mirv</div>
21:38Mirvso there goes
21:38Seveashaving read the wikipage and related things in advance: +1
21:39Seveasgo finland!
21:39stgraberoh, I remember where I saw Mirv before :) Canonical sysadmins channel :)
21:39forumsmatthewI've been reading on this one as well. +1
21:39PriceChildHow was UDS, what are your goals for Intrepid?
21:39phanaticsame here, really impressive work. +1
21:40stgraber+1 from me too
21:41MirvPriceChild: UDS was great to meet people I've only met on IRC. Goals for Intrepid, hmm, NMUing new gnome-spell in Debian with enchant support and syncing it to Ubuntu, trying to help mozvoikko to get in in time, improving translations
21:41stgraberMirv: you were only at UDS, not FOSSCamp ?
21:41Mirvhopefully helping somehow with X/Mesa/DRI stuff now that I've new Intel hw
21:41Mirvstgraber: I came only in Sunday evening, so only UDS indeed
21:41PriceChildSounds great to me and I'll +1 too.
21:41popeywow, lots of translations
21:42phanaticMirv: huge thanks for the gnome-spell/enchant stuff!
21:42popey+1
21:42Seveasnice, quick one!
21:42Seveascongratulations Mirv
21:42Myrtti/me cheers
21:42SeveasIulian, you're up
21:42Mirvwell, thanks a lot everyone! :)
21:42IulianHello! My name is Iulian Udrea and I'm sixteen year old. I started using Ubuntu a couple of years ago. To be honest I was really fascinated. I like to develop small open-source software and play chess. My favorite programming language is C/C++. I love to work in a team with talented guys and I also like to share my knowledge with others.
21:42IulianI'm a QA member and I am spending most of my time with the BugSquad team. One of my interests is to keep the Brainstorm site in shape (Ubuntu Developer role). I also like to work with the MOTUs, currently member of the MOTU Science team.
* RainCT is here to speak in favour of Iulian - he is doing great work on the MOTU front
21:42IulianMy future plans are: keep working with the MOTU, BugSquad and Brainstorm team.
21:42IulianWiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IulianUdrea
21:43IulianLP page: https://edge.launchpad.net/~iulian
21:43jpdsIulian is a talented guy and has made great work helping out in the MOTU. I fully support his membership and would very much like to see him as a MOTU in the future.
21:43nandI'd like to support Iulian with the following SQL query:
21:43nanddump080510=> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM qapoll_choice_duplicate_report WHERE moderatorid='430';
21:43nand count
21:43nand-------
21:43nand   522
21:43Seveasnand, was about to ask for something like that
21:43popeyhaha
21:43IulianI didn't know that, nand. Thanks for letting me know. :)
21:43stgraber+1 for Iulian, amazing triaging/QA work and on Brainstorm too
21:43nand(meaning he processed 522 duplicate reports in brainstorm ;) )
21:43stgraberand that's an old dump :)
21:44PriceChildIulian: How come you aren't going for membership through Ubuntu Contributing Developers? ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#ContribDev )
21:44jussi01o_0
21:44SeveasI had my doubts after reading wikipages
21:44Seveasbut see what testimonials do, +1 from me :)
21:44forumsmatthew+1
21:44phanatic+1
21:44IulianPriceChild: Good question. I don't really know what to answer. Maybe I will later.
21:45IulianOr be sure that I will. :)
21:45popey+1
21:46SeveasPriceChild, I don't think it's the road that counts, it's the goal :)
21:46IulianSeveas: Exactly. I'm planning this for the future.
21:46SeveasIulian, well, if you continue on the current path, I'd like to see that future :)
21:46PriceChildNice support from RainCT.
21:47IulianSeveas: Sure.
21:47PriceChildIulian: Go get MOTU!! :) I'll +1.
21:47RainCT:)
21:47IulianPriceChild: Hehe, thanks a lot.
21:47Seveasok, 6+'es
21:47Seveascongrats Iulian!
21:47SeveasRicardoPerez, you're up
21:47IulianAwesome, thank you all.
21:47RicardoPerezHi everybody! First of all, sorry about my horrible English :)
21:47RainCTIulian: congrats!
21:47RicardoPerezI'm Ricardo Pérez. I'm 33, and I teach computer scientist (using Ubuntu ;)) in a High School at Spain.
21:47RicardoPerezI'm the "Ubuntu Spanish Translators" team administrator https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-es , and a Spanish translator via Launchpad. As administrator, my job is, basically, to approve/decline new membership requests for the team, using the criteria published in the team wiki page, and coordinate the members using mailing lists and Launchpad polls.
21:48RicardoPerezAs translator, our job is to translate Ubuntu into the Spanish language. The Spanish is on the top of the translated languages in Ubuntu (obviously it's not thanks only to me, of course :)
21:48RicardoPerezI'm doing translation works since 2005, and I do send bugreports about translation problems regularly. I'm a member of the "Launchpad Beta Testers" team, too.
21:48RicardoPerezYou can see my Launchpad profile https://launchpad.net/~ricardo and my wiki page
21:48RicardoPerezhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RicardoPerezLopez for more information :)
21:48SeveasI'm a bit out of touch with karma. Is 5003 a lot for translations?
21:48forumsmatthewno hay nada problema, vuestro ingles es muy bien
21:48ke|pxDD
21:48RicardoPerezSeveas: yes, it's right :)
21:48RicardoPerezSeveas: I do a LOT of translations :)
* Flare183 says wow
21:49SeveasRicardoPerez, as I can see
21:49Seveasbased on that alone, +1
21:49phanaticindeed, +1
21:49Seveasadding the rest: +1.5 :)
21:49popey+1
21:49forumsmatthewun grande +1
21:49PriceChildRicardoPerez: What have you helped organise with the LoCo, apart from memberships?
21:50RicardoPerezPriceChild: really, I don't do any LoCo organisation at all, I'm only on translations and i18n
21:51RicardoPerezPriceChild: LoCo is Spanish team, and translations is Ubuntu Spanish Translators team :)
21:51stgraberManaging a translation team is certainly not something easy, +1 for that
21:51beunoRicardoPerez, is THE top contributor to Spanish translations, in every way possible
21:51PriceChildMy mistake, got confused for a second there :)
21:51Seveasstgraber -- king of the understatements
21:51beunoI quite admire his work
21:51RicardoPerezbeuno: thanks a lot :)
21:51effie_jayxI second beuno  on his coment
21:51beuno(sorry if I dropped in randomly, I just saw this and though I'd weigh in)
21:52SeveasPriceChild, +1/0/-1?
21:52PriceChild+!
21:52PriceChild+1 even
21:52Seveasexcellent
21:52Seveaspassed with flying colors, congrats!
21:52Seveasfdd, you're up
21:52RicardoPerezwow!!!!!!! thanks a lot!!!
21:52RicardoPerezgracias! :)
21:52fddHello.
21:52fdd## My name is Ionuț Jula, 18, and I'm a CS student trying to bring to FOSS ideology into my country (Romania).
21:52fdd## Actions through (Romanian) Free Sofware Group (softwareliber.ro).
21:52fdd## Free and Open Source philosophy is a life style for me.
* beuno wonders how it is RicardoPerez wasn't a member already
21:52beunoRicardoPerez, congrats, long overdue
21:53RicardoPerezbeuno: thanks again :) thanks again!
21:53ke|pRicardoPerez, felicidades :)
21:53Seveashmm, translation karma 9874
21:53RicardoPerezke|p: thank you very much :)
21:53SeveasI seriously need to know what's "good translation karma" "better karma" and "insane karma"
* stgraber too
21:54Seveasfdd, since when are you translating things and how much time per week do you think you're spending on it
21:54PriceChildSeveas: I think perhaps going to the translations page, it says for example 364 results here
21:54Seveasah
21:55fddsince I joined LP.
21:55PriceChildricardo had 1448, yet less karma?
21:55PriceChildhow confusing
21:55phanaticPriceChild: i wouldn't make any decisions based on karma. it doesn't help too much to determine real activity unfortunately.
21:55SeveasI would like to see some testimonials from other .ro people
21:55fddit depends. really.
21:55popeyPriceChild: it decays over time
21:55PriceChildahh
21:55beunoPriceChild, RicardoPerez does a lot of work with the team itself, and seems to work on the hardest strings in general
21:56beunowhich is hard to see reflected in LP currently  :)
21:56fddwe are a team too.
21:56SeveasPriceChild, karma decays, RicardoPerez has been contributing for over 2 years, fdd for less than 9 months
21:57fddbeuno, yes, it does.
21:57SeveasI'm going for 0 -- fdd's main contribution is translations. I can't read romanian so I can't judge those, I'd like to see some testimonials from other romanian translators
21:58fddI understand, Seveas.
21:58forumsmatthewI'm going to have to agree with Seveas here. I like the idea, but I am unable to adequately judge the quality of the contributions...for now, 0
21:58stgraberI'll follow Seveas on this one, more testimonials would be great and the wiki page might need updating too
21:58lukehasnonameWhat is a passing vote, out of 7?
21:59phanatic0 from me as well. it would be great, if you could bring along some people from your loco
21:59fddI focused on translating.
21:59Seveaslukehasnoname, majority of present members (that's what the CC does now)
21:59lukehasnonamek
21:59forumsmatthewfdd, if you had some people here to speak on your behalf, I could be swayed
21:59popeyditto, 0 here
22:00fddthat's true, but... you know.
22:00PriceChildI'm going to abstain with a 0 too.
22:01Seveasthat's 6 times 0. fdd, please get those testimonials sorted out and I'm convinced they'll quickly turn into 6 +1's
22:01Seveasvolans isn't here so mantiena is up
22:01fddof course. cheers!
22:02mantienahi all
22:02mantienaMy name is Mantas Kriaučiūnas, I'm 31 age, Debian user since 1999, Ubuntu user (and non-official developer) since 2004.
22:02mantienaI'm creator and main developer of Baltix GNU/Linux distribution (Ubuntu derivative), active translator of free software, also board Member of non-profit public organization "Open Source for Lithuania". I'm a full-time free software worker since 2003 ;)
22:02mantienaFor contributions to Ubuntu and other info look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MantasKriaučiūnas
22:03Myrttiooh
22:03SeveasI'm of two minds
22:04PriceChildLots of Baltix on launchpad :/
22:04mantiena;)
22:04Seveasyes, that makes it hard to judge *ubuntu* contributions
22:05Seveasmantiena, how much time do you spend on improving ubuntu, compared to the time spent working on baltix
22:05mantienaSeveas: it's launchpad fault, not my ;)
22:05Seveasmantiena, very true :)
22:05sirex`Seveas: see my comment on mantiena's wiki
22:05PriceChildTestemonials are also about baltix
22:05PriceChildtestimonials even
22:06Seveaswell, pitti saying nice things does sway my opinion a bit
22:06PriceChildbut a mr pitt did leave a comment
22:06popeyindeed
22:06mantienaSeveas: I'm not dividing time for Baltix or Ubuntu - I'm improving Ubuntu, but my improvements firstly are included into Baltix, because I'm not official Ubuntu developer, evet not MOTU
22:06Seveasmantiena, why not become motu then?
22:06popeymantiena: whats the status of live-installer?
22:06phanaticmantiena: are you planning to become a MOTU?
22:07mantienapopey: live-installer is suspended since 2007, because ubiquity is fully debconf-based
22:07popeyah, I see
22:07mantienaphanatic: right, I'm planing to become a MOTU
22:07PriceChildI think when providing lots of evidence about motuish things, ubuntu universe contributors should be the way to go for membership?
22:08SeveasPriceChild, I'm going to agree with that
22:08Seveasthey can judge that better
22:10forumsmatthewshall I call the question?
22:10forumsmatthewwhat say we?
22:10SeveasThat makes it a 0 from me, I think mantiena would be a good member but I'd rather see him take the motu route
22:10forumsmatthewI'm voting 0 for the same reason.. Seveas types faster than me, I think
22:10phanatic0 for the same reason
22:10phanaticah :)
22:11mantienaSeveas , forumsmatthew, phanatic : then there are one problem for Lithuanian LoCo team
22:11Seveasmantiena, which problem and why?
22:11forumsmatthewwhat is that?
22:11mantienawe can't have official LoCo team, because there are no U
22:11mantienaUbuntu member in Lithuania
22:12PriceChild-1 from me, would like to see you get recognised by getting these improvements from baltix into ubuntu
22:12Seveasis that really a requirement?
22:12SeveasI think we have several official teams that don't include ubuntu members but I could be wrong
22:13Seveasstgraber, popey: what's your verdict?
22:13sirex`Seveas: LoCo team must have contact person, who must be a ubuntu member.
22:13mantienaAFAIK LoCo team should have a contact person, who is an Ubuntu member
22:13stgraber0 from me
22:13PriceChildSeveas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved infers it needs ubuntu members
22:13SeveasPriceChild, sirex` thanks
22:13popey0
22:14Seveasmantiena, people can become members by doing loco work and translations as well. If you think other people in the loco qualify for those reasons, they should apply for membership
22:14Seveaswe think your application is better judged by the MOTU, so please try to go that route yourself
22:15RainCTthe Catalan LoCo Team got official without any Ubuntu Member
22:15SeveasStyx`, you're up next
22:15Styx`Hi, my name is Tomas Žeimys, I'm 25 years old and live in Vilnius, Lithuania. Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Tomas%C5%BDeimys
22:15Styx`My main interests are Ubuntu advocacy and local community management. 3 years ago I've started a website (www.ubuntu.lt) that now holds over 2000 members from Lithuania. Actively involved in organizing local meetings, various events and conferences. Currently I'm working on web based social network utility for OSS users in Lithuania, launching charity project (reuse of old computers that will be powered by (x)ubuntu) and preparing a
22:15Styx` plan for "Ubucon Baltic" (2-3 days event related to Ubuntu and other OSS for people from Baltic region). Main target - to fix Bug #1 at least in Lithuania :)
22:15RainCT(that was some time ago, though)
22:15pochuRainCT: same for ubuntu-es (the Spanish Speaking, not the LoCo team from Spain), but indeed it was ages ago
22:16mantienaSeveas: ok, I will try MOTU way
22:16jpdspochu: ..until now
22:17SeveasStyx`, can you translate "Viso žinučių / temų" to english for me?
22:17lukehasnoname@now
22:17ubottulukehasnoname: Current time in Etc/UTC: May 27 2008, 21:18:52 - Current meeting: EMEA Ubuntu Membership Approval Board
22:17Styx`Seveas, Total posts / topics
22:18Seveasand "pradedantiesiems"
22:18DzHiBaSFor begginers
22:18Styx`Seveas, for beginners
22:18Seveasah, that's why it has most posts :)
22:18sirex`Seveas: I and mantiena know him, and he is really from Lithuania.. :)
22:19Seveassirex`, hehe
22:19mantienayea
22:19Seveasnot doubting that, just curious
22:19Seveasubuntu.lt looks good, nice recommendations as well
22:20Seveas+1 here
22:20sirex`there is also ubuntu.lt/beta ...
22:21Seveasai
22:21Seveasnice
22:21Seveasdrupal?
22:21Styx`cms made simple
22:22Seveascan you mail your theme to dennis@ubuntu.com? :)
22:22Styx`Seeker`, sure
22:22stgraber+1 from me too
22:22forumsmatthew+1
22:22phanatici know how difficult it is to lead a loco and organize regular meetings and bigger conferences. so +1 from me.
22:22PriceChild+1
22:22mantienaSo, it seems we will have Ubuntu member in Lithuania :)
22:22Seveaspopey still needs to vote :)
* Seeker` prods Styx`s tab complete
22:23Styx`Seeker`, sorry
22:23Seeker`tis ok :)
22:23Seveaspopey, prod prod
22:24Seveaswho of us can stay a bit longer than 21:30? The list of members is still long
22:24popeyone mo
22:24forumsmatthewI can stay until 22:00
22:24popeyok, good stuff, +1 from me
22:24mantienaviva our LoCo team :)
22:25SeveasStyx`, congrats!
22:25Seveasl3on, you're up
22:25Styx`great! thank you guys, i'll do my best to not let you down
22:25l3onHello, I'm Leo Iannacone, 22 ( http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LeoIannacone ). I discovered Ubuntu in the far April 2006 (now about 2 years ago). I started to bring the Italian community immediately with the forum and later I started to work for italian wiki importing new guides from the International wiki. In December 2006 I was appointed moderator in italian ubuntu forum and in January 2007 wiki editor by Italian documentation group. Currently, I work mai
22:25l3onnly to italian wiki, where now I'm administrator. In recent months, with help from other administrators (specially AlessioTreglia and MiloCasagrande), we have refactoried the wiki structure, organizing it into Sections to split pages by thematic arguments (it was an hard work!), for see more take a quick look to our Index ( http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Documentazione/Indice ); we have produced new themes for the wiki (Kubuntu - Xubuntu - Edubuntu) and
22:25l3on new macros (an hack of TableOfContents to make it good to look without a dreadful table, and one for managing the compatible releases with the page that you are reading) (see for example http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub ). My work is powered by hope that one day Ubuntu will be installed on most of computers, in schools, offices, everywhere. Working constantly to make this happen.
22:25HattoryI would like to sustain Leo's application becouse he's one of the most involved users in the Ubuntu Italian Documentation Team. Its enthusiasm is amazing!
22:26Seveasl3on, can you point me to your userpage on the .it forums?
22:27l3onyes of course -> http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5827
22:27l3onBut, I think you have to register for read it
22:27Seveasnope :)
22:28totopalmaLeo is a very active member: he is moderator of Italian forum and is extremely active on the Documentation Team.Nice work, Leo! :)
22:28Seveasand I can manage enough italian to understand it even
22:28popeynice wiki page
22:28PriceChildLots of forums posts.
22:28l3ontnx popey.
22:29Seveas+1
22:29PriceChild+1
22:29forumsmatthew+1
22:29popeyyeah, easy one, +1, well done, good work
22:29stgraber+1
22:29phanatic+1
22:29Seveas+7 it is, congrats
22:30quadrisprocongrats l3on, u r great
22:30l3ontnx all guys :)
22:30Hattoryl3on: congrats \o/
22:30Seveasthat's the end of the meeting I'm afraid
22:30l3onquadrispro: you too ! ;)
22:30devfilcongrats l3on, you rock!
22:30SeveasDoes anybody onject to, say, 30 minutes more?
22:30l3ontnx devfil :)
22:30totopalmal3on, \o/
22:30forumsmatthewSeveas, I am okay
22:30xivulonno objection :)
22:30PriceChildI'm ok to stay a little more
22:30quadrisproSeveas: it could be good :)
22:30Seveass/anybody/anybody on the board/
22:31stgraberSeveas: I can stay a bit longer, not sure about 30min though
22:31phanatic30 more mins is fine
22:31Seveaspopey, ?
22:31popeyyeah
22:31Seveasok, continuing until stgraber has to leave
22:31popeyfine by me
22:31Seveasxivulon, you're up
22:31xivulonHi all, I am Agostino Russo, aka ago, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AgostinoRusso. I am the author and mainteiner of Wubi (wubi-installer.org), umenu, and a few other odd bits that ship on the LiveCD + related activities (wubi forum admin, website admin, guides, bugs in wubi and neighbouring core packages, etc).
22:32Seveaswubi, umenu
22:32Seveascase closed, +1
22:32forumsmatthewUm, Wubi...  Huge +1
22:32PriceChild+1 too
22:32PriceChildLots of thanks on ubuntuforums.org too as well as posts.
22:33xivulonnp
22:33phanatic+1, no question
22:33stgraber+1 for xivulon for all the work on wubi, collaboration with Ubuntu (all time in #ubuntu-installer) and helping users
22:33popey+1
22:33quadrisprogrea
22:33quadrisproxivulon: great :)
22:33Seveasnice one, congrats!
22:33Seveasquadrispro, you're up
22:33xivulonthanks guys
22:33quadrisprohi
22:33quadrisproI'm Alessio Treglia, 24. I'm studying Information Engineering at the Faculty of Engineering, Department of Information and Automation of University of RomaTre (Rome, Italy).
22:33xivulon:)
22:33quadrisproAfter Dapper was released, I started to contribute to Italian Community growth in different ways, at first giving support in technical boards of the italian forum and in IRC channels, then reporting bugs and writing and reviewing howtos for the Italian wiki.
22:33popeycongrats xivulon
22:33quadrisproNow I'm an official translator, a moderator of Documentation board of Italian forums and administrator of italian wiki, on which I've been working everyday. During this last period my attention is mainly focused on wiki structure refactoring and graphic restyling; in particular I'm proud for the last work which I ended together with Leo Iannacone (another Ubuntu-it wiki administrator), about new macros development.
22:34xivulonthx popey
22:34quadrisproI hope that Ubuntu will reach a wider diffusion and I'm trying to make it a reality, by installing Ubuntu systems on a even growing number of people's laptop and desktop and offering my free support.
22:34totopalmaAlessio is extremely active on the Documentation Team, he is member of the official Italian Translator Team and member of Italian Wiki Staff.
22:35Seveasgood wikipage, nice testimonials
22:36Hattorytwo words for Alessio: he rocks
22:36Seveascan anyone tell me how to get activity info out of moin?
22:36beunoSeveas, /RecentChanges
22:36Seveas(at least it looks like moin, the -it wiki)
22:36quadrisproSeveas: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AlessioTreglia
22:37quadrispro:)
22:37Seveasbeuno, that's not too helpful to see stats for a user
22:37quadrisprohttp://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/ModificheRecenti
22:37stgraberquadrispro: I see you are in Ubuntu and Xubuntu testing teams in Launchpad, what kind of testing do you do ?
22:37Seveasquadrispro, that helps
22:38beunoSeveas, I'm not sure moin let's you get stats per-user
22:38l3onSeveas: quadrispro everyday read/correct and help new user to write and edit guides on wiki. It's a great editor
22:38l3ons/wiki/italian wiki/ ;)
22:38quadrisprostgraber: i look for bug
22:38quadrispro:)
22:39quadrisprostgraber: but in this last period my attention was mainly focused on italian wiki
22:40SeveasLeaning towards a +1 for the locowork
22:41Seveasanybody want to convince me I'm wrong? :)
22:41Myrtti/me shuffles her feet
22:41popeylooks good
22:41popey+1
22:41forumsmatthew+1 here
22:42stgraber+1 for LoCo work
22:42phanaticgood testimonials, and lot of created pages/documentations in the italian wiki. +1
22:42PriceChild+1
22:42Seveasexcellent, +6 it is
22:43Hattoryquadrispro: \o/
22:43Seveasstgraber, time enough for one more?
22:43quadrisprothank you guys :) thank you very much
22:43Seveasquadrispro, congrats :)
22:43totopalmaquadrispro, \o/
22:43devfilcongrats quadrispro :)
22:43l3on;)
22:43quadrisprothank u devfil
22:43devfilquadrispro: I'm happy for you
22:43quadrisprothanks Seveas :)
* PriceChild thinks ikonia be idle
* devfil is here :)
22:44stgraberSeveas: yes
22:44Seveasok, ikonia seems to be idle and pimanx isn't here. ke|p you're up
22:45pimanxIm here
22:45ke|phi all!
22:45ke|pops
22:45pimanx:)
22:45pimanxHi all :) My name is Martin Pihl, I'm 27 from Denmark. I candidate to be the only second Dane becoming an Ubuntu member (the other being soren from Canonicals Server Team). Among other things I'm the founder of the Danish support and community forum at http://ubuntudanmark.dk, which I created in 2006, and have been administering since then.
22:45pimanxI'm very active in the Danish LoCo team, and I hope an Ubuntu membership will inspire other Danish users to put efforts into Ubuntu. sbc is here from the Danish LoCo Team. My main focus now and in the near future is Ubuntu in denmark: Work to expand the user base but also engage more new active ubunteros and lay the ground for commercial Ubuntu support and usage.
22:45Seveaske|p, oops, I made a mistake, pimanx is up first, sorry
22:46ke|pno problem
22:46quadrisprogoodbye all
22:47pimanxAs you can see on my wiki page, my main contribution is in the LoCo team and particular on ubuntudanmark.dk which I founded
22:47Seveaspimanx, what's ubuntu-dk.org if ubuntudanmark.dk is the main site?
22:47Myrttiok, since there's no way of getting to my application in the allotted time, I'm going to bed. Nitey everyone
22:47pimanxSeveas, I created this site at a time when the loco team was very inactive
22:47pimanxthats why we have to pages atm
22:47sorenI imagine we'll merge at some point.
* soren runs the ubuntu-dk.org stuff
22:48Seveassoren, what kind of software is it?
22:48sorenSeveas: ubuntu-dk.org? Django, most of it.
22:48pimanxyes, ubuntudanmark primarily runs the forum
22:48SeveasI ask because it looks eeeeeeeerily familiar :)
22:48sorenSeveas: Yeah, I may have borrowed a bit from someone... :D
22:48Seveas:)
22:49Seveassoren, what would you say about pimanx ?
* PriceChild ctrl+u's
22:49sorenI don't have a lot to add, but can certainly verify that pimanx is a very active community member and that ubuntudanmark.dk is considered a very useful ressource for many Danish Ubuntu users.
22:50popey+1 from me
22:50popeyfor community efforts
22:50Seveas+1
22:50forumsmatthew+1
22:50PriceChild+1 too, looks good
22:50pimanxThanks :) - and thx for staying awake, soren ;)
22:51phanatic+1
22:51stgraber+1 and I'm affraid I'll need to leave after this one
22:51pochustgraber: just one more? :)
22:51Seveas+6 it is
22:51ke|p:/
22:51sorenpimanx: The legend says I don't sleep anyway, so no worries :)
22:51Seveasshall we meet again next week to get rid of the backlog?
22:51pochuwe have 10 minutes left?
22:51pimanx:)
22:52Seveaspochu, stgraber has to leave and nagios os telling me I should do so as well
22:52forumsmatthewNext week should work for me
22:52popeywould be better to stick to a schedule
22:52pochuI'm here for ke|p, I'm sure you all will +1 her in a second :)
22:52popeyrather than having ad-hoc meetings
22:52popeywe've certainly broken the back of the list
22:52Seveaspopey, that's true
22:52ke|phaha
22:53Seveaspochu, add a testimonial to the wikipage
22:53stgraber"Meetings are weekly, and take place in the early evening for each timezone, although the day will vary a little each week, to ensure that as many membership candidates as possible can attend."
22:53ke|pI don't know if the next week  i can be here, but no problem
22:54Seveaske|p, there's always a next week
22:54ke|pyes :)
22:54SeveasI think it makes sense to stick to the same day and time, unless candidates have trouble with that (I've seen that ones in 2 years of CC meetings)
22:54popeyweekly!?
22:54popeysince when did we agree that!?
22:55Seveashttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards says so
22:55beunoke|p, poke me when you do get a chance to apply, I have quite a few good things to say about you  :)
22:55forumsmatthewI didn't, but I'm willing to do it briefly to get the list cleared
22:55stgraberpopey: that's what the wiki page says since the beginning, I don't think it's useful either ...
22:55Seeker`popey: didn;t you see the small print? you signed away your soul when you joined the membership council
22:55SeveasI don't think weekly will be really necessary, but lets do that for now to get rid of backlog
22:55popeyclearly :)
22:55popeyok, fine
22:55ke|pok beuno, thanks!
22:55popey:)
22:55SeveasSeeker`, jono owns his soul
22:55Hattorynice meeting! bye bye
22:55Seeker`heh
22:55stgrabersame time next week sounds good, then we'll see when will be the one after
22:56Seveasah crap, next week I won't be in on tuesday of course
22:56Seveasdads 50th birthday
22:56Seeker`"of course"?
22:56PriceChildHow about wednesday?
22:56PriceChildor shall we talk this over on the list?
22:56stgraberI can't on wednesday (two other meetings)
22:56Seveaslet's take it to the list and use that think mark said (doodle.ch)
22:56stgraber+1
22:57forumsmatthew+1
22:57phanatic+1
22:57PriceChildfunky
22:57Seveaswill send summary + doodle thing to board, cc, and uwn tomorrow
22:57Seeker`PriceChild: you have to be different, don't you :P
22:57Seveasnagios is now really saying I should go, or else I'll be fired
22:57Seveas(read: databases went down)
22:57popeygood work guys
22:57forumsmatthewthanks, all
22:57Seveassee you soon, all!
22:57popeySeveas: you have the log, and are passing it on yes?
22:58Seveaspopey, yes
22:58phanaticthanks, see you next week. good night!
22:58popeycool
22:58ke|pgood night
22:58RicardoPerezgood night everyone!
22:58RicardoPerez(or everybody)
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22:59l3onBy all :) and tnx ;)
22:59popeynn
22:59ke|psnif

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