bobby__Updated FF4 browser, XULRunner 2.0 still won't upgrade00:05
chrisccoulsonbobby__, you need to wait for the builds to next run00:10
bobby__:(, when will that be?00:10
chrisccoulsonin the next few hours00:11
bobby__No, I'll be fine, really00:11
bobby__Anyway, thats fine, it still works :D00:12
bobby__ah dang it, Flash is crashing now00:12
chrisccoulsonthese are daily builds, so things will break from time to time ;)00:12
chrisccoulson(and at this stage, whilst we're getting things ready for natty, expect things to breka frequently)00:13
bobby__Well, I'm using 10.2 Square preview... But its never crashed before this actually...00:13
bobby__But if it IS your fault, then... Well... Yeah...00:15
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chrisccoulsonhi asac, did you see https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/ubufox/ff-4.0/+merge/40373 :)11:51
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BUGabundoUnable to open URL15:42
BUGabundoError launching "xdg-open 'http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805327'": Failed to fork (Cannot allocate memory)15:42
BUGabundofta: need a way to limit chromium ram... it mem leaks and kills my system :(15:51
ftaBUGabundo, well, limit/ulimit but not sure it will work15:52
ftahaven't tried that in ~15y15:53
BUGabundonow running in GDB15:53
BUGabundobut that uses even more RAM :(15:53
Dimmuxxbuy more ram ;)15:54
BUGabundo4GB not enough to run ONE browser and 4 tabs?15:55
BUGabundodamn it15:55
Dimmuxxdepends on the browser15:55
micahgchrisccoulson: are we planning on installing mozjs in /usr/lib or will it just be a separate package?15:58
chrisccoulsonmicahg - not sure. one idea from UDS was to install a versioned libmozjs in /usr/lib (separate package) and have a non-versioned libmozjs symlink in the usual place (so that our toolkit remains ABI compatible with the official builds)15:59
chrisccoulsonwe're really going to be under pressure to drop xulrunner off the CD this cycle15:59
micahgchrisccoulson: hmmm, I was hoping we could get an accessible webkit :-/16:05
micahgfta: congrats16:18
ftathat's almost a million users for chromium16:21
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ftawith the rest of the pack: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/popcon-20101109-pct2.png17:01
jcastrofta: surely the numbers for epiphany are wrong?17:50
jcastroI mean, don't get me wrong, I like it, but I can't believe there's that many users?17:50
ftajcastro, i assume it was installed by default a long time ago or something17:51
micahgjcastro: depends which column in popcon he's using, popcon is historical17:51
jcastrofta: maybe gnome dev packages bring it in?17:52
jcastroeither that or it's everyone's naughty browser. :p17:52
BUGabundoprivate browsing would be easier17:53
ftajcastro, it's falling fast. at this trend, in 4~6 months, chromium should eat it17:54
jcastroBUGabundo: not if you want to keep bookmarks/history/etc.17:54
ftaand 12 months for konq17:55
jcastronot like I would know *whistles*17:55
jcastrofta: yeah it just seems like it would have long surpassed it by now17:55
ftajcastro, jdstrand: so much for debian/fedora and their all-system-libs browsers: http://spectralhole.blogspot.com/2010/08/why-you-dont-want-to-build-you-chromium.html18:00
ftaoh, nice (if you have a 7" ereader and want to read magazines): http://www.pdfscissors.com/18:38
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chrisccoulson_micahg - was it you who mentioned about dropping the update-notifier hook?21:22
chrisccoulson_i'm sure somebody talked to me at UDS about it, but i can't remember ;)21:23
micahgchrisccoulson_: I think I might have mentioned it21:23
micahgchrisccoulson_: I saw you did it, but if ubufox goes away, we'll have issues21:23
chrisccoulson_i don't think it will go away just yet ;)21:23
chrisccoulson_the notification area will go away before ubufox ;)21:24
micahgchrisccoulson_: ok21:24
chrisccoulson_and i think we were pretty much the only people using that mechanism in update-notifier anyway21:24
chrisccoulson_and that dialog was hideous ;)21:24
micahgchrisccoulson_: are we looking at a consistent path as well this cycle?21:24
micahgthen we can get rid of the restart notification completelu21:25
chrisccoulson_not sure yet, but we'd still need to keep it around anyway, as FF would still break if files are renamed etc21:25
chrisccoulson_so we'd at least need it for the major version upgrade case21:26
micahgchrisccoulson_: that shouldn't be happening during point releases21:26
micahgI would almost prefer having people close Firefox or deferring the update in those cases rather than having the restart notification21:27
chrisccoulson_well, the second case might happen anyway. that's something i talked about with mvo at UDS21:27
chrisccoulson_but we'd still want a way to tell users that they need to close firefox for the upgrade to complete21:28
micahgchrisccoulson_: the same way any other package needs input on updates? (debconf)21:28
chrisccoulson_no debconf, that's horrible ;)21:28
chrisccoulson_mvo suggested adding a new field to debian/control that would tell u-m to defer unpacking the package21:29
chrisccoulson_we'd then have some magic in our launcher script to trigger the upgrade, and tell the user to restart the browser when an update is ready21:29
chrisccoulson_then the update would happen as the browser restarts21:29
chrisccoulson_that's only one idea though21:30
micahgchrisccoulson_: that would be cool and mirror upstream behaviour21:30
chrisccoulson_i need to talk to mvo when i get the chance though to flesh out the exact details21:30
chrisccoulson_but i think something like that could work21:30
micahgchrisccoulson_: the only issue I can think of is policykit access to the package installation21:30
chrisccoulson_that's what aptdaemon is for :)21:31
chrisccoulson_oh, yeah, actually21:31
chrisccoulson_i see what you mean21:31
chrisccoulson_we wouldn't want a second auth dialog to appear21:32
micahgchrisccoulson_: right21:32
BUGabundoyet another crash21:33
BUGabundostupid chromium mem leaks :(21:33
ftaBUGabundo, you might want to have a look at your mapping file to see what's leaking21:34
ftain the apport report21:34
BUGabundoits a system freeze21:35
BUGabundonothing logged21:35
BUGabundomost of the times not even chromium restore21:35
ftaanything relevant in dmesg?21:35
BUGabundo$ pastebinit /var/log/dmesg.021:36
BUGabundonothing I see21:36
BUGabundonothing in syslog.1 either21:37
BUGabundoill tee gdb to file or something21:39
BUGabundohow do I make chromium more verbose again?21:39
ftado you have a bug for that in lp?21:42
ftaor upstream?21:42
BUGabundonot yet21:45
BUGabundonothing to report21:45
BUGabundonot even reproducivle21:46
BUGabundosometimes with no change in pages it just goes crazy21:46
BUGabundobut most of the times its when openning a new one21:46
BUGabundotried to disable a few addons, but nothing changed21:46
ftado you even know which process goes crazy?21:47
BUGabundoI can't do anyting on my laptop21:47
BUGabundoI'm forced to power cycle21:47
BUGabundoit uses all my ram21:47
BUGabundono swap (ssd)21:47
BUGabundoREISUB and reboot21:48
BUGabundo1 window, 5 tabs21:48
BUGabundotwo from gmail using the most RAM21:48
BUGabundo230 and 180MBs21:49
BUGabundoPrivate Proportional21:50
BUGabundothat's *a lot* of ram21:50
ftanone of my 25 tabs uses more than 50M21:51
BUGabundolet me launch a brand new profile21:52
BUGabundoand reproduce same tabs21:52
ftaopen the ch task manager and keep it visible21:52
ftashift + esc21:52
BUGabundoI know21:54
BUGabundoI do21:54
BUGabundoflash is using 200MBs21:55
BUGabundoseesmic 7621:55
BUGabundoand all other under 50MBs21:56
BUGabundoChromium 306,636k21:57
BUGabundoway less total ram21:57
ftathat's with a --temp-profile?21:58
BUGabundoturning off most of my addons21:58
BUGabundoand restarting21:59
BUGabundolets see if that makes a diff in mem usage21:59
BUGabundofta: ahahaah its not freeing the process22:00
BUGabundoI started it in gdb and it aiting closign22:00
BUGabundo1000      2979  0.0  0.0   4148   576 pts/2    S    21:31   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/chromium-browser -g22:01
BUGabundo1000      2982  1.3 13.0 779248 528844 pts/2   S    21:31   0:24 /usr/bin/gdb /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser -x /tmp/chromiumargs.5X9aW522:01
BUGabundofta: ctrl+c aint working either22:04
ftahm, looks like the accelerated-compositing bug. thought it was disabled for now22:04
ftatry --disable-accelerated-compositing22:04
BUGabundokill aint working either22:04
BUGabundosending -922:04
ftais still have that in my /etc/chromium-browser/default22:04
BUGabundothat did it22:04
BUGabundo104,052k on start22:05
jlebarHey, guys.  Just a heads up: We're planning to switch the Mozilla nightly builds to gcc 4.5 tomorrow.22:05
jlebarWe're seeing pretty substantial perf wins with gcc 4.5 plus -O3.22:06
micahgjlebar: thanks for the heads up, is this for Firefox only or comm-central as well?22:07
jlebarmicahg, Just Firefox right now.22:08
micahgjlebar: ok22:08
BUGabundo[10427:10427:2149079486:ERROR:base/native_library_linux.cc(28)] dlopen failed when trying to open libGLESv2.so: libGLESv2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory22:08
BUGabundo[10342:10357:2221656145:ERROR:chrome/browser/extensions/extension_protocols.cc(134)] Denying load of chrome-extension://edacconmaakjimmfgnblocblbcdcpbko/favicon.ico from about:blank because the extension does not have access to the requesting page.22:08
BUGabundofta: turning that flag on is messing one add on22:08
ftaSession Buddy? that has nothing to do with accelerated hw22:11
chrisccoulson_jlebar, might want to take a look at bug 663294 ;)22:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 663294 in gcc-4.5 (Ubuntu) "Firefox built with gcc-4.5 is a non-starter on i386 with -pie (affects: 3) (heat: 182)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66329422:13
chrisccoulson_although, i guess that doesn't really affect your builds22:13
micahgchrisccoulson_: have you decided what you want to do about beta 7 re natty yet?22:14
jlebarchrisccoulson_, I believe we build with a patched gcc-4.5.  I'm not sure what the patch fixes, but maybe it's that.  :)22:14
chrisccoulson_micahg - upload as soon as all the major bits are ready (those being ubufox and translations)22:15
micahgchrisccoulson_: ok, should I go ahead and upload to the PPA this weekend then or should I wait for you to upload to Natty?22:15
chrisccoulson_jlebar, it's not the patch for this is it? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59461122:16
ubot2Mozilla bug 594611 in js-ctypes "jsctypes busted on linux with gcc 4.5" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]22:16
chrisccoulson_wrong link22:16
chrisccoulson_jlebar, i meant http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45623 ;)22:16
ubot2gcc.gnu.org bug 45623 in tree-optimization "[4.5 Regression] GCC 4.5.[01] breaks our ffi on Linux64. ABI break?" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]22:16
chrisccoulson_micahg - we should probably wait first22:17
jlebarchrisccoulson_, that's probably it, yes.22:17
micahgchrisccoulson_: ok, any idea how long, I'll add a note to the /topic22:17
BUGabundofta: what's "Signature verification failed" ?22:17
micahgrelease is tomorrow barring any respins22:17
BUGabundowhen trying to install an addon?22:17
jlebarWell, I hope you guys get the -pie thing fixed so you can get this speedup.22:17
jlebarit's really quite nice.  :)22:17
chrisccoulson_jlebar, i just disabled -pie on our builds ;)22:18
chrisccoulson_but that's not a long term solution for us22:18
ftaBUGabundo, either your addons is busted, or the api changed and you need to re-install it22:18
BUGabundoI'm doing it now22:18
BUGabundoand when I tried it showed that22:18
jlebarhaha, I see.22:19
* micahg wonders if hardening-wrapper needs a rebuild22:20
BUGabundofta: reporting to lastpass dev team22:20
BUGabundoI guess soemthing changed22:21
chrisccoulson_micahg, i don't think so, it's just a perl script22:24
micahgchrisccoulson_: why is it arch specific then?22:36
chrisccoulson_micahg - not sure about that22:38
BUGabundofta: fyi since I removed that app, and enabled --disable-accelerated-compositing it seems better22:39
BUGabundocould be a bad addon22:39
micahgchrisccoulson_: maybe for the test suite22:40
ftaBUGabundo, most probably the flag22:42
BUGabundo[12531:12531:2876911258:ERROR:chrome/browser/extensions/extension_error_reporter.cc(55)] Extension error: Signature verification failed22:42
BUGabundo[12531:12949:2884052311:ERROR:net/base/x509_certificate_nss.cc(564)] No EV Policy Tag22:42
BUGabundo[12531:12531:2884503862:ERROR:chrome/browser/extensions/extension_error_reporter.cc(55)] Extension error: Signature verification failed22:42
BUGabundo[12531:12531:3009553900:ERROR:chrome/browser/extensions/extension_error_reporter.cc(55)] Extension error: Could not open crx file for reading22:42
BUGabundoseeing a few more in the logs22:43
BUGabundoI guess a lot changed in todays build22:43

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