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speckmadeSo the Ubuntu User Days will happen in here, I hear. Now what does "presentation" mean - will the presenters just flood us with chat messages or will there be a video stream or something?..18:07
pleia2they talk in here (I wouldn't call it a "flood" - it's normal chatting speed)18:08
pleia2then you ask questions and discuss what's going on in the session in #ubuntu-classroom-chat18:09
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=== ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-classroom to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Classroom - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom || Support in #ubuntu || Upcoming Schedule: http://is.gd/8rtIi || Questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat || Current Session: Registering your Laptop on the Database - Instructors: letozaf, SergioMeneses, primes2h
ClassBotLogs for this session will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/07/%23ubuntu-classroom.html following the conclusion of the session.20:01
primes2hHello all and welcome to this intro on Ubuntu Laptop testing!20:01
primes2hThis classroom session is going to be held by three members of the Laptop Testing Team: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-laptop-testing.20:02
primes2hThis session goes to be hosted by Sergio Zanchetta (primes2h), Sergio Andres Meneses (SergioMeneses) and Carla Sella (Letozaf_)....20:02
primes2hSo let’s first introduce ourselves:20:03
primes2hI’m Sergio Zanchetta from the Ubuntu Italian Team. My work in Ubuntu is mainly on translations and testing.20:03
primes2hI’m a member of the Ubuntu Italian Translators Team, Ubuntu QA Team, one of the founders of the Italian Testing Team and an administrator of the Laptop Testing Team, which I founded as well.20:03
primes2hHere you can find more information about me: https://launchpad.net/~primes2h.20:04
SergioMeneseshi all!20:04
SergioMenesesmy name is Sergio Andres Meneses, I’m from Ubuntu Colombian Team, I actually work with the Ubuntu Loco Council and the Ubuntu QA team in the Laptop testing field from this cycle :)20:04
SergioMenesesyou can find more information about me in my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses20:05
letozafHello to everyone20:05
letozafMy name is Carla Sella, I’m Italian and I’m member of the  Ubuntu QA Team,  Italian Testing Team and Laptop testing team.20:05
letozafI have been testing for about a couple of years now and I am mostly involved in manual and automated testing, you can find information about me here: https://launchpad.net/~carla-sella.20:05
SergioMenesesToday we're going to learn about "Testing on a Laptop".20:06
letozafYou may ask questions at any point.. Just be sure to utilize the #ubuntu-classroom-chat channel So let's get started!20:07
primes2hWhy do we test laptops?20:07
primes2hAs you can see on the laptop testing wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop20:08
primes2h“We're on a mission to get Ubuntu to work great on as many different makes and models of laptops as possible.”20:08
SergioMenesesIn fact the aim of the project is to find out all the bugs affecting laptops hardware during the development process, so that developers can fix them in time for the release.20:08
primes2hBesides, not less important, is to keep track of bugs themselves also after a stable image has been released.20:09
letozafSo anyone that has a laptop has the chance to test how Ubuntu works on it and in case they have nasty problems with some hardware they can report a bug and help get their problems solved.20:09
letozafThis way they will help make Ubuntu work on a larger number of laptops and hardware.20:10
letozafTests are carried out following  testcases that tell you how to  run tests on your laptop, each one is designed to find out if a specific piece of hardware works straight off. Any bugs have to be reported in launchpad and added in the Laptop Tracker.20:10
primes2hThese tests are run in either stable releases or current milestone of development release.20:11
SergioMenesesWe will now explain how to start your adventure in Laptop testing:20:11
SergioMeneses- Create a Launchpad Account.20:11
SergioMenesesYou will  need a launchpad account because it is a very important tool on our testing trip:20:11
SergioMenesesa Launchpad account is needed for Reporting bugs, Question and Answers, Translations, Blueprints and even more! :) (imho: launchpad rocks!).20:12
SergioMenesesThen you need to sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct and commit yourself to comply with it.20:12
SergioMeneseshere is were to get started: https://login.launchpad.net/+new_account,20:12
SergioMenesesAnd here is an example on what you will get at the end: https://launchpad.net/~sergiomeneses.20:13
primes2h- Create a Personal Wiki Page.20:13
primes2hA personal wiki page is needed to let us know something about you, your goals and expectations about ubuntu, even something funny.20:14
primes2hIt’s just a way to know each other and personal skills.20:14
primes2hAnd here is an example of a personal wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses20:14
letozaf- Join the Ubuntu Laptop Testing Team \o/20:15
letozafYou must join  our team: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-laptop-testing20:15
letozafand our mailing list: ubuntu-laptop-testing@lists.launchpad.net20:16
letozafRemember also to join ubuntu-quality mailing list, ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com to keep informed about general testing related stuff.20:16
SergioMeneses- Set up an Hardware Profile20:17
SergioMenesesA hardware profile is needed to know the details of the hardware you are testing on.20:17
SergioMenesesThis will allow people to know on what hardware Ubuntu works fine and also help developers fix bugs in case you find one or more during testing.20:17
primes2hThere are two ways to do this:20:18
primes2h1 - Automatic: you can create a profile on the ubuntu friendly website (graphic mode).20:18
primes2h2 - Manual: you can share your hardware profile on a wiki page.20:18
primes2hTheoretically the first one should be the easiest way, because you can automatically obtain a complete hardware profile of your laptop.20:19
primes2hHowever, the inner limitations of the tools used, makes this method the long-lasting and less practical one for now.20:19
letozafBriefly speaking, you need to run checkbox  from the stable release previous to the development image you are going to test.20:20
letozafThis way you are bound to perform a full system testing.20:20
letozafCheckbox is pre-installed in Ubuntu and you will find it searching “System Testing” in the Dash.20:21
letozafFinally, providing your launchpad email, you can submit results and then, after some time (that can go from a few hours to some days) you’ll find your hardware profile on the Ubuntu Friendly website: https://friendly.ubuntu.com/.20:21
letozafThis is how your laptop will look like in Ubuntu Friendly:20:21
primes2hWe aim to simplify and improve the automatic process, so expect some news in the near future.20:23
primes2hThat said , we are  going to explain the manual method more extensively, as it’s the most practical way to do this:20:23
primes2hYou have to create a subpage of your personal wiki page, where you’ll put all information about your laptop.20:23
primes2hFor example: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YourPersonalPage/LaptopMakeModel (this is a only a template).20:24
SergioMenesesAn example of an existing personal profile to use as a guide is:20:26
SergioMenesesNow we are going to take some information from our computer to fill in our wiki page:20:26
SergioMenesesLaptop make and model -  the output of the commands:20:27
SergioMeneses$sudo dmidecode -s system-manufacturer20:27
SergioMeneses$sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name20:27
SergioMenesesnow, On Lenovo laptops you need also to run20:28
SergioMeneses$sudo dmidecode -s system-version20:28
SergioMenesesto get the first part of the model name.20:28
SergioMenesesLaptop hardware information - the output of the commands:20:29
SergioMeneses$lspci -v  → (pci devices)20:29
SergioMeneses$lsusb    → (usb devices)20:30
SergioMeneses(without any external device attached)20:30
SergioMenesesand then20:30
SergioMeneses$lshw -short  → (hardware list)20:30
SergioMeneseswith all this information ,we fill our wiki page :) as you can see in the model20:31
SergioMenesesquestions about this?20:32
primes2hAny Questions ?20:32
SergioMenesesok, there is not questions right now :)20:36
ClassBotpleia2 asked: Are you testing development releases, or the versions of Ubuntu that have already been released?20:36
primes2hIn fact we test both, but we are more focused on development releases20:40
SergioMenesesby the way, you can find our testing progress here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds20:41
SergioMenesesas you can see, there are LTS versions and Daily versions :)20:42
ClassBotJoseeAntonioR asked: What do those $ signs at the beginning mean? Should I type them in the Terminal too?20:42
letozafNoskcaj, that indicates the shell you do not have to type that in20:43
letozafsorry I meant no20:43
letozafthat indicates the shell you do not have to type that in20:44
letozafyou just have to type what comes after that sign20:44
letozafand press enter20:44
letozafso, for instance you have to enter:20:44
letozaflspci -v20:44
letozafand press enter20:44
ClassBotballoons asked: So at the moment, I should manually create a profile for my computer for testing?20:45
letozafWell it depends20:46
letozafThe quickest way is creating a wiki page with all the info about20:46
letozafyour laptops hardware20:46
letozafand then putting the link to the wiki page in the testcase result20:46
letozafso we know what hardware has been tested20:47
letozafthe other way is to use checkbox, but it takes20:47
letozafmuch more time, even if maybe20:47
letozafhaving all your hardware info in the Ubuntu Friendly site20:48
letozafis better20:48
letozafthank you SergioMeneses20:49
ClassBotpleia2 asked: how do I know whether I should I contribute to laptop testing or regular iso tracker testing?20:49
letozafWell they are two different ways to test and contribute to Ubuntu20:49
primes2hYou can contribute to both of them20:50
letozafLet's say that if you have a laptop20:50
letozafit is a good idea to contribute as you will help Ubuntu work20:50
letozafon many different hardware20:50
ClassBotThere are 10 minutes remaining in the current session.20:50
letozafwhith laptop testing you help test Ubuntu on a particular hardware20:51
letozafwith ISO tracker testing you test the ISO, but it is not always tested on hardware but also on virtual machines20:51
letozafso hardware independetn20:51
letozafthen if your hardware profile is in Ubuntu Friendly websit20:53
letozafwebsite people can have a look at what hardware Ubuntu works on20:53
primes2hSo, if there are no more questions we will continue talking about the fun part: testing! on the second session at 21:00 UTC same channel20:54
ClassBotThere are 5 minutes remaining in the current session.20:55
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ClassBotLogs for this session will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/07/%23ubuntu-classroom.html following the conclusion of the session.21:01
letozafHello everyone!21:02
letozafWelcome to the second session on laptop testing.21:03
letozafSo, after having set up everything as explained in the previous session  lets start the fun part: TESTING :D21:04
letozafTo start testing, first of all go to the Laptop Tracker website at http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/.21:05
letozafYou will have to choose a milestone from the list, for instance “Quantal Final”  or “Raring Cadence Week 2”,21:05
letozafdepending on what it’s available for testing (look at the “status” column  “Testing”  indicates  what has to be tested and  “Released” indicates what does not as it has been released)21:06
letozafOnce you have chosen the milestone you will have to select the correct image that corresponds to your computer’s architecture from another list:21:07
letozafSo, for example, if you have a 64 bit laptop you need to click on the small icon (CD with a green arrow) next to the “Ubuntu Desktop amd64” product.21:08
letozafAfter clicking on it, you’ll be on the ISO image download page.21:08
letozafClick on the first link you find on the list and you will be able to download the ISO.21:09
letozafThere is a quicker way to do this using zsync, but maybe we will explain this later if we have time.21:09
letozafGenerally speaking, updated daily images of the current development release are found at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/.21:09
primes2hOnce you have downloaded the image you have two options:21:10
primes2h1 - Put the ISO on a DVD or a USB key and boot your laptop from them to perform testing in a “live environment”.21:10
primes2h2 - Install the ISO on your laptop using a separate partition of you hard drive.21:11
primes2hIf you are new to this, you don’t feel comfortable on partitioning your hard drive or you don’t have much time available to test, go for option number 1.21:11
primes2hIn a live environment you can successfully run all scheduled testcases except the hibernate one (that needs a real installation to run).21:12
primes2hThe second option needs a separate partition of you hard drive just for testing so you won’t mess up the existing Ubuntu that is already on it :-D21:12
primes2hAnyway remember that  installing a development release on a production machine is21:13
primes2husually not recommended if you don’t know what you are doing, development releases can “break things”, so be careful.21:13
letozafOnce you have booted Ubuntu, it’s time to start testing!21:14
letozafYou need to go back to the Laptop Testing tracker at http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/21:14
letozafand log in using your launchpad credentials, otherwise you will not be able to submit your test results.21:14
letozafReporting Results and Filling Testcases21:15
letozafAs you did before select the milestone (e.g. Raring Cadence Week 2), then click on  your architecture product link for example Ubuntu Desktop amd64.21:15
letozafYou will see list of testcases to carry out ordered by category  like: Audio, Connectivity, I/O and so on.:21:16
letozafIf you want to be notified when new images are available for testing21:17
letozafyou can select the  testcase checkboxes you are interested in and then click on the subscribe button at the end of the page under “Actions”21:17
letozafThis way you will be notified by email when an image is ready for testing.21:17
SergioMenesesYou now need to follow the testcase instructions and carry out the tests one by one reporting the results21:18
SergioMeneses(“Passed”, “Failed” or if it is taking long you click on “In progress” so others know that you are carrying out the test).21:18
SergioMenesesIn the machine field you must copy and paste the link to your hardware profile21:19
SergioMenesesthe one you created on a wiki page we spoke about in the previous classroom session ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses/AcerAspire4750 )21:19
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SergioMenesesIf you select “Failed” you have to indicate one or more bug numbers reported on Launchpad otherwise you will not be able submit your result.21:20
primes2hTake a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures for more detailed information on what just said.21:21
primes2hyou can find more information about testing at our wiki page:21:22
primes2hand you can meet us in #ubuntu-quality on the Freenode network.21:22
letozafRemember: The Laptop Testing Team is open to anyone who would like to provide  important hardware information about their laptops and help us make Ubuntu work on a wide range of hardware,21:23
letozafWe spoke about how getting the ISO for putting it on a live USB key or a DVD21:26
letozafthe best way to download an ISO is using zsync21:27
letozafZsync is very practical and fast for downloading ISO’s as it downloads only the parts of a file that are changed, so as to avoid downloading a full copy every time.21:27
letozafSince the daily ISOs generally change quite little, it can be processed quite quickly21:28
letozafzsync also performs a checksum comparison making it possible to change the flavour of the ISO (e.g. you have an ISO of Ubuntu and you want to change it on Kubuntu. Simply copy/paste the right line for Kubuntu and it will download just the parts that differs from the two versions).21:28
letozafUbuntu archives provide .zsync files using quite similar URIs about the various flavours. For example:21:29
letozafzsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/raring-desktop-i386.iso.zsync21:29
letozafwill sync the server's daily unstable raring (13.04) desktop image (for i386) to your local system with an older desktop image already stored on your hard drive.21:30
letozafFor more information on how to use it go to:21:31
letozafhas anyone got questions ?21:32
primes2hThere are no questions, so thanks a lot to all you guys!21:38
primes2hWe hope to see you soon21:38
letozafprimes2h, there is a question21:38
ClassBotballoons asked: When do you plan to have a testing event again?21:41
SergioMenesesballoons, I think when the ubuntu-classroom-team invite us again :D21:43
primes2hSoon. 12.04.2 is on the way and21:43
primes2hand as soon as Raring beta1 is approaching21:44
primes2hwe'll start do extensive  testing21:45
ClassBotpleia2 asked: Are there recommended times to do testing, or can I just download an ISO any random night I have time and give it a try? :)21:49
primes2hIn general you can use this cadence reference page if you need to : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cadence21:50
ClassBotThere are 10 minutes remaining in the current session.21:50
primes2hbut the best is to subscribe yourself for email notification in the laptop tracker21:51
primes2hso you'll be notified when a new image is ready to be tested.21:51
letozafif you look at the laptop testing tracker21:52
letozafthe status column tells you if we are currently testing21:53
letozafor if it has been released21:53
letozafso until you find the testing status you can test, then when testing is over you will find21:54
letozafthe status "released"21:54
ClassBotThere are 5 minutes remaining in the current session.21:55
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primes2hI think there aren't more question. So thanks a lot to you guys! I hope to see you soon21:58
letozafbye to everyone and come and join the fun on the laptop testing team21:59
SergioMenesesok guys thanks for coming :D21:59
SergioMeneses \o/21:59
SergioMenesesand thank to the Ubuntu Classroom Team: pleia2 and JoseeAntonioR21:59
letozafyes thank you to pleia2 and JoseeAntonioR and balloons too21:59
primes2hAgree, thanks to all22:00
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