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gnomefreakmwe,  in all senses its heavey (for code atleast) and you havent noticed it takes forever to load?12:00
boa-chanamarok works fine with it12:00
boa-chanooo im so leet12:00
boa-chanlol12:00
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gnomefreakoh and its not quite freely distrubted12:00
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fredforfaeni wanna use xcompmgr but i get No composite extension , even after i added composite "Enable" in org.con...what to do?12:00
ompaul!tell boa-chan about enter12:00
mwegnomefreak: yeah and it eats half my sytem memory12:00
boa-chanoh ok, heh12:01
NeoSHODANHello.  I've got an apparent fstab configuration error...  it mounts the partitions correctly, but not with the right permissions12:01
fredforfaenxorg.conf*12:01
gnomefreakand to think i start a java class in jan :(12:01
HurricaneJok thanks i got the answer for my mp3 needs12:01
NeoSHODANI can't read anything unless I'm root12:01
greenpenguin13python :)12:01
mweNeoSHODAN: put user under options12:01
crimsunNeoSHODAN: NTFS partition? pass umask=02212:01
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poseidon_linux_Bsorry... I got offline... lets try again... well, someone can help? I need a information if the Ubuntu customized for HP notebooks is better than the normal 5.10 Breezy (which is newer)... what is better for hardware support?12:01
HurricaneJnow im searching for a wireless network manager like the one windows have to see what networks are within my range12:01
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gnomefreakthey dont have python yet but i have books its just a pita compared to C12:01
NeoSHODANuser is under options, that was what I thought would solve it12:01
gerald-voltwhat are some good linux games?12:01
mweNeoSHODAN: oh yeah and umask 0222 or 22212:01
NeoSHODANumask=022?12:01
mweNeoSHODAN: no12:01
mweNeoSHODAN: 022212:02
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gnomefreakgerald-volt, what type of games?12:02
NeoSHODANthat goes under options?12:02
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mweNeoSHODAN: right12:02
gerald-voltanything that's free12:02
NeoSHODANthank you12:02
gnomefreakthere are a buntch of games in synaptic12:02
I_Am_anybody know how i would view my grub entries?12:02
fredforfaenanyone?12:02
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gnomefreakgedit /boot/grub/menu.lst12:02
gerald-voltshooting, racing that's multiplayer?12:02
gnomefreak!games12:03
ubotusomebody said games was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/12:03
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fredforfaen!transparency12:03
ubotufredforfaen: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about12:03
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fredforfaeni wanna use xcompmgr but i get No composite extension , even after i added composite "Enable" in org.con...what to do?12:04
mwehappypenguin.org should go to that list as well12:04
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=== gnomefreak bbl dinner time i think
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renee_can someone help me plz? i got a error with dhclient12:05
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I_Am_thanks gnomefreak12:05
mweoh and http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+games is a good place to look for linux games to btw12:05
renee_last time before reboot i had dhclient command and now it says that i dont have the command anymore12:05
I_Am_i wanna format my windows partition12:05
mweI_Am_: format with what file system?12:06
ompaulrenee_, run "sudo dhclient" if it is there it will run if not then lets install it12:06
I_Am_the ubuntu user guide says i can boot unbuntu from the disk and then alter grub after i boot from the startup list12:06
I_Am_ntfs12:06
ompaul!guide12:06
ubotuompaul: Are you on ritalin?12:06
I_Am_but now i'm wondering if i should use fat 3212:06
I_Am_at least i can alter files if its fat 3212:06
poseidon_linux_Bwell, is anybody interested on a talk about hardware support for HP notebooks? may be a private talk to dont disturbe this room12:06
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naliothubotu: tell I_Am_ about recover12:06
mweI_Am_: if you wanna write from linux, use fat32, yes12:07
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mweI_Am_: it wont handle files larger than 4GB though12:07
ompaulposeidon_linux_B, how #ubuntu-offtopic is there if anyone wants to talk about it12:07
I_Am_isn't ntfs better for windows though?12:07
ZeroIRCj00 lik3 i7 wh3r3?12:07
mweI_Am_: yes _much_ better12:07
madsen_do I have to change folder permissions to be able to change icons on the panels?12:07
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I_Am_hmmmm12:08
I_Am_what to do?12:08
mweI_Am_: you can make a smaller shared fat32 partition12:08
renee_ompaul, im using root12:08
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renee_ompaul, thats the problem :S12:08
jhennis dapper okay to install?12:08
ompaulrenee_, well sudo was developed not to have these issues12:09
mwejhenn: if you don't mind a broken system it is12:09
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erUSULTues13th12:09
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renee_ompaul, but how i can turn it on again?12:09
pashawjhenn,    if ytou can fix your own problems yes  if not  no12:09
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renee_ompaul,  i dont have my superuser anymore12:09
jhennthanks12:09
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ompaulrenee_, if you have the first user the sudo stuff is still there12:10
sorush20how do I restart xserver?12:10
SuperHerodoes anyone know why I can't find a package that I know exists?12:10
renee_ompaul,  i dont have it anymore :(12:10
pashawsorush20,  ctrl+alt+backspace12:10
I_Am_i already have a shared drive that i left with fat3212:10
SuperHeroI am trying to install phpbb12:10
mweSuperHero: you don't have the repo enabled or you don't type the name correctly12:10
SuperHerorepo?12:11
ompaulrenee_, what else did you think was good to change?12:11
I_Am_so do i need to use the ubuntu live cd to get back into ubuntu after i reinstall windows12:11
I_Am_or can i use the ubuntu install cd12:11
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rabbitwhen you install something with synaptic, it puts it 'sompelace' in the menus...   how do I know where?  what if I can't find it?12:11
pashawrenee_,   you just created your own distro  its not ubuntu anymore  :P12:11
Mabus06If I'm replacing the motherboard do I have to reinstall ubuntu?12:12
mweSuperHero: yeah repository. you need universe enabled and the package is phpbb212:12
ompaulpashaw, stop reading my script :)12:12
SuperHeroyes12:12
SuperHerohow do I enable that?12:12
mwe!tell SuperHero about universe12:12
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pashawompaul,   lol     ive seen this story 4-5 times in 2 days    its amusing12:12
mwe!tell SuperHero about multiverse12:12
SuperHerowow12:12
SuperHerothat really cuts down on the having to repeat a previous answer12:13
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SuperHeroI like it12:13
Yawgmoth7I am trying  to install Ubuntu on a external hard drive, and everything goes fine until I get to the part where it installs grub. It freezes and dosen't do anything. Has anybody had this problem before. Or maybe ahve a solution?12:13
SealyDave!tell SealyDav about universe12:13
mweSuperHero: the source-o-matic is way easiest, I guess12:13
ompaulrenee_, what I seriously suggest is that you reinstall it - back up anything that might be useful onto CD or loose it - then do things the way we suggest, guess what it works well :)12:13
bambixhello all12:13
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bambixsorry to barge in like tis but i've got a problem-question12:14
pashawMabus06,   no unless  your using some exotic hardware   it should run well enough to fix it12:14
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Mabus06pashaw, okay12:14
SuperHeroproblem12:14
SuperHeroI'm not using X11R612:14
Ninjahi there. Can anyone help in getting surround sound to work on creative 5.1 speakers12:14
SuperHeroI just have the server version12:14
mweSuperHero: and?12:14
SuperHeroso12:14
SuperHeroapt-get12:14
pashawMabus06,   x settings  matter if you change  video card12:14
crimsunNinja: use -Dplug:surround5112:14
SuperHerois how I install packages12:14
mweSuperHero: you still have /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get12:14
crimsunNinja: then make sure you adjust the LFE, Center, Front, and Surround mixer elements12:14
bambixwhen i go to synaptics package manager and go for the repositories it doesn't have a settings button, do i need sudo=<12:15
crimsunNinja: you might find the speaker-test utility (cli) helpful12:15
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pashawMabus06,   backup  important files first12:15
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mweSuperHero: just edit sources.list and remove hashmarks as commented. then apt-get update and you should be good12:15
Ninjacrimsun do i need to put that in the terminal as is says command not found12:16
SealyDavewhat is the better package install similar to automatrix?12:16
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crimsunNinja: no, you'd specify plug:surround51 as the device in any ALSA application12:16
ompauleasyubuntu12:16
mweSealyDave: automatrix?12:17
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Yawgmoth7Does anyone know why it freezes when it gets to the grub part of the installation?12:17
SealyDaveautomatix12:17
mwe!automatix12:17
uboturumour has it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!12:17
SuperHeroit still says12:17
ompaulSealyDave,  easyubuntu12:17
Mabus06msg pashaw I am changing video cards too12:17
SuperHero'cannot find package phpbb2'12:17
KenMastersone question, driver for Creative PC CAM 350 whre download ?12:17
pashawMabus06,    then change xorg.conf  to vesa  driver12:18
mweSuperHero: you need to sudo apt-get update first12:18
LetterRipHi for Dapper Drake would it be possible to use Blender 2.40 instead of 2.37a?12:18
Mabus06pashaw, how?12:18
SealyDave!tell SealyDave easyubuntu12:18
SuperHerosry, I was a redhat user12:18
ompaulYawgmoth7, I suggest to people who end up in that position that they install "server" when the install starts then >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<< on first boot12:18
SuperHerothanks12:18
poningru!tell SealyDave about easyubuntu12:18
mweSuperHero: you're welcome12:18
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rabbitwhen you install something with synaptic, it puts it 'sompelace' in the menus...   how do I know where?  what if I can't find it?12:19
ompaulYawgmoth7, tends to work for them12:19
Ninjawell i exucuted the  -c6 -D plug:surround51 speaker test and my yoo back speakers arent working12:19
fmasiwhat is the port that webmin uses ?12:19
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crimsunNinja: so make sure you unmuted them using a mixer12:19
naliothSealyDave: join #easyubuntu if you want more info12:19
SealyDavekew12:19
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SuperHeroits working12:19
SuperHerothanks, much12:19
ompaulgreetings thoreauputic12:19
mweSuperHero: you're welcome.12:19
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Fredis there a shell command to do an MX lookup on a domain?12:20
thoreauputicompaul: hello there :)12:20
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NgFred: dig -t mx somedomain.com12:20
mela1975huhu12:20
Fredthanks Ng12:21
mela1975huhu12:21
Yawgmoth7ompaul: I might just not be understanding what your saying, but I'm not able to get to Ubuntu, since it just get's to the part of boot where it checks got bootable CD's then freezes. ANd I don't think there is a shell or anything to do that in whilst in the isntallation12:21
mwemela1975: huh?12:21
mela1975:-)12:21
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Ninjacrimsun: on my volume control i can find, surround, center and lfe12:22
madsen_when does the previous kernel version NOT show on multiple boot options?12:23
crimsunNinja: then it'd be surround or rear12:23
ompaulYawgmoth7, correct your not understanding me, let me try again. Restart the install, when it pauses type >>server<< when that is done and the machine reboots login and run this command >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<<<12:23
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ompaulYawgmoth7, i.e, you start with a server install and build on that12:23
Yawgmoth7Oh12:23
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cafuegoFred: host -t mx <domain> actually.12:24
johncan someone please tell me what to do in terminal to automatically finish off a command line?12:24
john...i forgot!12:24
Yawgmoth7Errr, where would I type that, since there really is nowhere to type that during the install, Terribly sorry I'm not getting it12:24
Fredcafuego, well both work :) thanks :)12:24
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thoreauputicjoh: use tab completion?12:24
johnthats the one12:24
johncheers12:24
Ninjayeah i have surround, still only getting four speakers though12:25
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ompauljohn, that depends on the command so no simple answer - you might be thinking of tab for part of a command but it does not do the optiions and I see thoreauputic has beaten me to it but I have typed so much I will keep going :)12:25
ryorininsevenHey, anybody have any experience with installing VMWare 5.5?12:25
mirak_I am tryin to install eclipse-sdk on dapper but it complains that mozilla is broken. I had the same problem on breezy. I don't see why there is a dependance at all12:25
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cafuegoompaul: With bash, come commends to have tab completion for options actually.12:26
cafuegos/c/s/12:26
mweryorininseven: yeah. I just ran the installation script with sudo12:26
Ninjaonly one speaker not working, would it be master ?12:26
johnompaul, thanks :)12:26
ompaulcafuego, which is not all :) but I did not know that, thanks12:26
ryorininsevenmwe: So did I, but VMWare crashes a few seconds after starting now.12:26
cafuegoompaul: My favourite there is hostname completion :-)12:26
ompauljohn, enjoy12:26
ompaulhmm12:27
cafuegoryorininseven: Did you upgrade your kernel?12:27
mweryorininseven: hm. I don't know why. I'd check the log files12:27
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ryorininsevencafuego: Not yet, but I think I'll give that a shot.12:27
TokenBadok I have mp3's I want to burn to a audio cd that will work in cd player...anyone tell me how to do this in ubuntu?12:27
ryorininsevenmwe: Which log files should I be looking at?12:27
thoreauputicyou can also set "programmable tab complete " in ~/.bashrc or /etc/bash.bashrc (global)  - useful eg with apt-cache and sudo12:27
cafuegoryorininseven: No, no... upgrading a kernel will mean you'll need to rebuild the vmware modules.12:27
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ryorininsevenOh. Well, I haven't upgraded yet, so ...12:28
mweryorininseven: syslog and what not in /var/log. or look in /home/ryorininseven/vmware and subdirs if anything is there12:28
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ryorininsevencafuego: I'm running 2.6.12-9-386.12:28
ompaulthoreauputic, hmm more notes being made I might call you  on that one12:28
Yawgmoth7Well, I guess I'll try to figure out what ompaul was saying, I'll see if I can get it to just install the base12:28
benplautis it normal for camera drivers to take... 3-4 minutes to load?12:28
mirak_I am tryin to install eclipse-sdk on dapper but it complains that mozilla is broken. I had the same problem on breezy. I don't see why there is a dependance at all12:28
mirak_any idea about that ?12:28
Yawgmoth7Course, I stilll need it to boot somehow, which that means I would need grub12:29
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mirak_the bug reports are not helping12:29
cafuegoryorininseven: I had nothing but trouble with vmware on any Ubuntu, just oopsed the kernel continuously.12:29
maskdgday, anybody else with dapper whose msn in gaim always crashes?12:29
mirak_there  is no solution to this problem12:29
TokenBadanyone?12:29
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ompaulYawgmoth7, that is what I said except as the boot starts it is called "server" read the screen a few seconds into the install12:29
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thoreauputicompaul: programmable completion for instance will complete package names with apt etc12:29
mirak_maskd: no prob here12:29
maskdmm12:29
ryorininsevencafuego: Ahhh. Well, nuts12:29
thoreauputicompaul: nice feature...12:29
Yawgmoth7Ok12:29
mwemirak_: I don't know. getting the tarball from eclipse.org works. that's what I did though12:29
cafuegoryorininseven: vmware player works fine, though.12:29
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bkcan someone tell me where to extract a tar file like firefox?12:30
cafuegobk: Still can't find #gentoo?12:30
ryorininsevencafuego: Ooh, ok. So then it just comes down to making a VM for use with it.12:30
bki didn12:30
bki did12:30
Dr_Willisbk,  you just downloaded the firefox 1.5 tar?12:30
mirak_mwe: you installed it in your $HOME ?12:30
bki'm giving up on gentoo12:30
thoreauputicompaul: you on skype atm ?12:30
bki'm back to ubuntu12:30
mweryorininseven: vmware runs without trouble here, though12:30
ompaulnot atm12:30
cafuego!firefox1.512:30
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion12:30
ryorininsevenmwe: What kernel are you running?12:30
thoreauputicompaul: OK12:30
ompaulbut give it a sec12:30
mirak_bk: gentoo is horrible12:30
bkbut the latest version of ubuntu uses firefox 1.0.712:30
ryorininsevenmwe: And you're using Hoary or Breezy?12:30
mwemirak_: no. only the guest os12:30
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Razor-Xmirak_: I like Gentoo quite a bit12:30
cafuegoryorininseven: They all run very happily in vnc on the Edubuntu server now :-)12:31
mwemirak_: no im confused12:31
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mwemirak_: eclipse, right?12:31
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ompaulthere12:31
mirak_Razor-X: I like the ability to compile "on the fly" but it lacks a bit of humanity12:31
bkso i want to install the latest firefox12:31
Dr_WillisGentoo is nice in ways. Bad in others.. same with ubuntu. Lol.12:31
cafuego!rule 112:31
mirak_mwe: eclipse12:31
ubotuRule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!12:31
mwemirak_: too many simutanious chats :)12:31
bki'm giving up on gentoo for right now12:31
mwemirak_: I installed it in /opt12:31
ryorininsevencafuego: Haha, nice12:31
mirak_mwe: ok12:31
I_Am_okies i'm viewing a wiki page about recovering ubuntu after installing windows12:31
cafuegobk: See rule 1.12:31
bkso where should i extract firefox?12:31
Razor-Xmirak_: yeah, it has it's disadvantages12:32
yatesybk: whereever you like12:32
I_Am_it talks about a seperate boot partition12:32
I_Am_how do i find out if i have one12:32
bkhow about /usr/sbin?12:32
sorush20my open Gl acceleration isn't working eventhough I have followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATIOnBreezyOpenGLFix?highlight=%28ATI%29 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ATI%29. I have ati radeon 925012:32
cafuegobk: And also read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion. I didn't make ubotu post that for no reason.12:32
ryorininsevenmwe: And I've got no mention of any vmware errors in any of the log files, so that's a little distressing.12:32
Dr_WillisI really dont see whats so impiorntant about fuirefox 1.5 actually.12:32
cafuegobk: NO. Read the url.12:32
yatesybk: sbin is used for superuser processes only12:32
mirak_Razor-X: at least I tried it :)12:32
I_Am_when i viewed the grub info it did not say anything about a boot partition12:32
sorush20when I run glxgears they run fine for a few seconds then it slows really down.12:32
bkalright, cafuego. i'll read it.12:32
mweryorininseven: auw. that's bad12:32
bkcafuego, are u a developer?12:32
cafuegoDr_Willis: It's 0.43 better then version 1.0.712:32
mirak_Razor-X: on a powermac G3 400mhz and G4 350 ...12:33
cafuegobk: No, just sensible.12:33
mweryorininseven: and the modules are loading ok?12:33
Dr_Williscafuego,  guess so. :P12:33
rabbitI get an error when using mail-notification that "login failed"  with gmail, anyone know what to do?12:33
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bklol12:33
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mweryorininseven: dmesg says nothing either?12:33
ompaulcafuego, read the page - then you will see what it is that is needed12:33
MiniLinuxhello12:33
ryorininsevenmwe: Seems that way, yeah.12:33
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MiniLinuxi have problem for see video12:33
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MiniLinuxi have installed all all all12:33
ryorininsevenmwe: Dmesg has nothing but stuff about setting keycodes, but I've been getting that for a while now.12:33
ompauldoh!12:33
ompaulcafuego, double doh12:33
mweryorininseven: then I can't help you, sorry12:33
MiniLinuxthe all video tutorial explain12:33
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MiniLinuxw32codecs is installed12:33
cafuegohh12:33
ryorininsevenmwe: No problem. Thanks anyway.12:33
MiniLinuxgstreamer is installed12:33
MiniLinuxxine is installed12:33
MiniLinuxmplayer is installed12:34
ompaulthoreauputic, there now12:34
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MiniLinux3000 library is installed12:34
mweryorininseven: unkown scancodes in dmesg? shouldn't influence right12:34
MiniLinuxand the video show BLUE image12:34
ryorininsevenmwe: Right.12:34
Razor-Xrabbit: what mail client are you using?12:34
ryorininsevenmwe: Far as I can tell, they're basically harmless gripes -- maybe tied to Windowmaker, I dunno.12:34
rabbitmail-notification12:34
rabbitRazor-X: mail-notification12:35
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thoreauputicompaul: ?12:35
hd420wtf is up with breezy?12:35
ompaulyak yak12:35
ryorininsevenmwe: Anyways, I need to get moving. Thanks again for the help.12:35
Razor-Xrabbit: ... that's not an MUA -_-12:35
ompaulhd420, nothing12:35
thoreauputicompaul: you aren't showing online yet12:35
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ryorininsevencafuego: And thank you for the help as well. :)12:35
rabbitRazor-X: MUA?12:35
Razor-Xrabbit: what do you use to retrieve mail?12:35
Razor-X*retreive12:36
ompaulthoreauputic, had been for a while restarting12:36
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hd420ompaul: why is apt giving me "error 1" when trying to install apache?12:36
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mwerabbit: mua = mail user agent. *nix lingo12:36
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rabbitRazor-X:  I have a gmail account, I was looking for something like gmail notifier (in windows)  and someone suggested mail-notification..  but it fails to login12:36
ompaulhd420, paste the stuff your doing and getting in paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:36
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I_Am_help12:36
sorush20which should I use xfree86 or xorg?12:37
I_Am_i'm terribly stuck12:37
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Razor-Xrabbit: MUA == Mail User Agent, Mail Client basicall, MTA == Mail Transfer Agent or Mail server12:37
visik7why there is a reference to fedora in ubuntu wiki ???? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/QemuEmulator ???12:37
Razor-Xrabbit: oh.... I've heard very little about it, what exactly did gmail notifier do?12:37
I_Am_anybody ever restored their grub menu after reinstalling windows12:37
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MiniLinuxsomeone know a page that contain the COMPLETE PROCEDURE for install all necessary for see MPG and MPEG video???12:37
cmatheson!tell I_Am_ about anyone12:37
I_Am_i've read the turtorial how to and i have some questions12:37
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rabbitRazor-X:   pops up a little messsage when you get emails..   you can also right click on the sys tray icon and go to your inbox (launches in browser)12:37
MiniLinuxhttp://help.ubuntu-it.org/guidabreezy/ch03.html#codecs12:37
I_Am_thanks cmatheson12:38
ilba7rI_AM shoot12:38
MiniLinuxI have installed all of that pakages12:38
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Razor-Xrabbit: there's actually something called ``gmail-notify'' in the repos, as I see it :)12:38
I_Am_i've reviewed my fstab12:38
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Razor-Xrabbit: but your problem with mail-notification probably deals with TLS/SSL, because gmail uses nonstandard ports and stuff12:38
rabbitRazor-X: yeah but that only handles gmail and mail-notification handles POP and IMAP and stuff too12:38
I_Am_and the howto refers to /boot in the fstab12:38
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greenpenguin13gmail-manager firefox extension12:38
bkcafuego, that link u told me about; i can't access it without downloading and installing a personal security manager.  where do i get that?12:38
I_Am_but my fstab doesn't contain anything refering to a /boot and a hard drive12:39
Razor-Xhas anyone noticed that Firefox is becoming a lot like emacs? :)12:39
rabbitRazor-X: the help for this says it has SSL/TLS support12:39
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greenpenguin13i think there is a gdesklet set that does that12:39
KyralNothin' wrong with Emacs :D12:39
nekostarhow hard is it to get ubuntu to work on a laptop?12:39
Razor-Xrabbit: what port do you use?12:39
Dr_WillisRazor-X,  wee need an emacs extension for firefox!12:39
ilba7rI-Am this is special if you have a boot partition most probably yours is on the MBR12:39
Razor-XKyral: exactly, but many would kill me for saying that12:39
Razor-XDr_Willis: :P12:39
rabbitRazor-X: I have no idea12:39
hd420http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/628212:39
bknekostar, it's easy. i got it going now.12:39
greenpenguin13and a firefox extension for emacs12:39
nekostara dell insperion 4000 to be exact12:39
I_Am_i have windows and ubuntu on the same hard drive if that makes any difference12:39
greenpenguin13recursive!12:39
Razor-Xrabbit: what steps did you use to configure mail-notification?12:39
nekostarits only a celeron 600MHz 128MB ram12:40
rabbitRazor-X: I just put in my account info in the preferences for it12:40
nekostar5 gig hdd :/12:40
hd420ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/628212:40
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Razor-Xrabbit: does it let you specify SMTP/POP servers and the port numbers?12:40
nekostarbut i was thinking of using it as a portable media player frankly hehe12:40
albackerguys i compiled kernel and got this when booting : Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)12:40
bkforget it cafuego, i was using mozilla. i tried the link on firefox and it works.  thanks12:40
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I_Am_so after reinsalling windows.... its the mbr that needs to be modified12:40
ilba7rI_Am some people like to have a seperate partition for boot. If you used the standard ubuntu install you will not have this partition12:41
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I_Am_awesome12:41
ilba7rI_Am you need to reinstall grub right12:41
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I_Am_well i havent actually reinstalled windows yet12:41
MiniLinuxI installed:12:41
MiniLinuxgstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse, gstreamer0.8-plugins, gstreamer0.8-lame, sox, ffmpegm,12:41
MiniLinuxgstreamer0.8-ffmpeg, gstreamer0.8-mad, vorbis-tools, lame, faad, , mjpegtools, totem-xine12:41
I_Am_i'm just getting prepared12:41
tod_konMe sound stopped working all the sudden... and there is no alsaconf on this humble distro -_-12:41
rabbitRazor-X:  for pop accounts, yes..   but there's a special 'gmail' one, I used that12:41
sorush20I get an error in   /var/log/Xorg.0.log that unable to aquire agp any help on fixing this?12:41
tod_konCan someone please help me out?12:41
MiniLinuxand w32codecs, and i runned gst-register-0.812:41
[cro] smileyhow to eject CD by pressing eject button?12:41
Razor-Xrabbit: ah12:41
HurricaneJi have a windows xp computer where i have all my music and pictures how can i log in to the network using ubuntu so that i can access those files?12:41
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Razor-Xrabbit: does it show you the servers of the special ``gmail'' setting?12:42
MiniLinuxbat i dont see the video12:42
I_Am_so yes ilba7r i believe i just need to get the grub menu back after reinstalling windows12:42
sethkHurricaneJ, samba is for that purpose12:42
MiniLinuxHELP12:42
greenpenguin13or ifolder ?12:42
[cro] smileyhow to eject CD by pressing eject button?12:42
rabbitRazor-X:  I don't see any server stuff12:42
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sethkHurricaneJ, access windows shares from linux, or making linux stuff look like a windows share, you use samba12:42
Dr_Willis[cro] smiley,  its proberly been automounted - you must unmount it first. then hit the button12:42
HurricaneJcan i get samba off sypnatic?12:42
Razor-Xrabbit: how would you configure it for a non-gmail account?12:42
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bwbanyone have a logitech wireless keyboard of some sort? (Just wanted to ask if it is normal for it to be alittly laggy)12:42
nekostari know dells have problem on some distros so i was wondering about ubuntu :)12:42
sethk[cro] smiley, or use the eject command (also after you umount it)12:42
rabbitRazor-X:  it's got different fields for those12:42
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sethknekostar, I have it on two dells, without major problems.12:43
Razor-Xrabbit: can you show me a screenshot?12:43
nekostarok12:43
[cro] smileyDr_Willis, can i unmount from console and how?12:43
sethknekostar, but I don't trust dells all that much12:43
nekostarits also not connected to the inet so its a fully offline install....12:43
cafuegobugger12:43
Dr_Willis[cro] smiley,  yes.. with the umount command.12:43
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I_Am_ilba7r, have you used the method described in wiki?12:43
llebergWill a installation with the install cd give me the choice of formating my disc?12:43
[cro] smileyDr_Willis, thx12:43
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visik7lleberg: yes12:43
SturgeonHurricaneJ: did you try going to places->network servers?12:43
nekostarhow small a swap can i use for 128MB ram.. say 256MB ?12:43
llebergi had a kernel panic wafter updating to breezy :P12:43
sorush20[cro] smiley: umount /media/cdrom112:44
sorush20or umount -a12:44
llebergvisik7: Is there any way of not formating and still getting it to work?12:44
sorush20or umount -l12:44
rabbitRazor-X: just a sec12:44
sorush20you might need to use sudo for those12:44
Razor-Xrabbit: mmmkay12:44
llebergvisik7: to not loose the things i have on it12:44
nekostarand how small an install can i do with server install + openbox + totem-xine + codecs12:44
cafuegonekostar: If you don't run X, you can even have no swap whatsoever.12:44
mcscruffwhen you do an apt-key add where does it put the key?12:44
llebergnothing important though, maybe i should format it anyway12:44
visik7lleberg: bab12:44
nekostarcafuego, its for watching anime on the go basically :P:12:44
visik7lleberg: backup it12:44
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[cro] smileysorush20, thanx now it works12:45
qwertywould a BCM V.92 56K Voice Modem work on linux12:45
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Razor-Xqwerty: google my friend :)12:45
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qwerty(ubuntu linux)12:45
cafuegonekostar: 128Mb swap *minimum* but 256 is probably a better bet.12:45
llebergvisik7: Is that also an alternative on the installation? Because i have no other computer or disc to put it on :)12:45
sorush20[cro] smiley: what were you running k3b?12:45
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llebergit's an sata disc and this computer ses IDE only :P12:45
Red-Soxhow do you find out how much ram you have?12:45
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Red-Soxfrom the command line?12:45
cafuegoRed-Sox: 'free'12:46
[cro] smileysorush20, sorry i'm newbie please explain12:46
nekostarok i can do that :)12:46
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cafuegoRed-Sox: The first number you see is the amount of ram in kb.12:46
ompaulhd420, I had a look at your paste, what version of ubutu are you running?12:46
Red-Soxcafuego: what about all the hardware specs?12:46
cafuego155449212:46
WorstPhobiaWhat's a good Linux backup program?12:46
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Hikaru79Is it safe to add partitions to the hard drive that I'm currently using using gparted, as long as I'm not resizing or modifying in any way, the partitions I currently have mounted? (i.e, I'm creating new partitions out of free unallocated space)12:46
cafuegoRed-Sox: cat /proc/cpuinfo; lspci; dmesg | less12:46
sorush20Red-Sox: were you running a program and the drive became busy and you were unable to eject.. is that what happened..12:46
hd420ompaul: breezy12:46
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llebergI'll make some tea and then i'll get on with my installation :)12:47
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johni am installing cedega on an gf6600 gfx card pc and open gl and 3d fails, do I need to install some drivers? If so how? please someone :)12:47
thoreauputicWorstPhobia: unison isn't bad12:47
sorush20WorstPhobia: there are meny.. I still haven't found one good enough yet.. what are you backing up to?12:47
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ompaulhd420, please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list now - I figure your doing something in that space12:47
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cafuegojohn: You need to install and use the non-free nvidia drivers. 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx'12:47
WorstPhobiaThanks, thoreauputic.12:48
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sorush20[cro] smiley: were you running a program and the drive became busy and you were unable to eject.. is that what happened..12:48
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WorstPhobiasorush20, I'm using VMWare. I would back up my Linux stuff to my Windows host.12:48
WorstPhobiaThen burn it from there.12:48
tod_konBLADE RUNNER KILLED MY AUDIO!12:48
y_o_uhello everyone. trying to install a belkin wirless pci card using the ubuntu wiki as a guide. i am useing the recommended drivers, but it is telling me invalid driver. any ideas?12:48
HurricaneJdoes samba have a user interface or is everything done thourhg the terminal?12:49
SturgeonBlame the robots12:49
[cro] smileysorush20, no i can only eject with right click, and cdrom button works only when unmount it12:49
I_Am_how do i view the mbr?12:49
rabbitRazor-X:  ??12:49
SturgeonHurricaneJ: did you try what i said?12:49
sorush20WorstPhobia: a little more complicated that I expected.. you can use mondo, or you could use dar.. and if your using kde use kdar12:49
SturgeonHurricaneJ: places ---> network servers12:49
cafuegoI_Am_: dd if=/dev/hda of=- bs=512 count=1 | less12:49
WorstPhobiaOkay.12:49
WorstPhobiaI'm be right back.12:49
WorstPhobiaReinstalling VMWare.12:49
[cro] smileysorush20, can i make to unmount it when i press the button and then to eject?12:49
cafuegoI_Am_: Mind you, that's fully useless.12:49
sorush20[cro] smiley: I'm sure you can get the desktop environment you are using to stop auto mounting..12:50
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hd420ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/628312:50
HurricaneJim trying i googled the samba info i did a sudo but when i try to key in my password it wont let me12:50
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SturgeonHurricaneJ: i mean in the desktop12:50
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SturgeonHurricaneJ: you have a "places" menu, right?12:50
Sturgeonnext to "applications"12:50
MiniLinuxhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ci6PEO39.html12:50
MiniLinuxuff12:50
HurricaneJoyeah i see it12:50
MiniLinuxthat is the output12:50
SturgeonHurricaneJ: go to "network servers" in that menu12:50
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rabbitRazor-X:  not much to see12:51
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Sturgeonand see if it shows "microsoft network" or something12:51
MiniLinuxi'm tring to see a pornovideo bat ......12:51
HurricaneJi see windows network12:51
mirak_[cro] smiley: you can enter "eject" in console12:51
Sturgeonthen go inside12:51
Sturgeonyou're already connected12:51
Sturgeonyou don't need samba12:51
HurricaneJohh man thanks alot12:51
sorush20MiniLinux: don't watch porn.. http://xxxchurch.com/12:51
HurricaneJwooooooo hoooooo12:51
mirak_[cro] smiley: "eject -t"  to  have the caret returning inside12:51
sethksorush20, you attend an x rated church?12:52
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sorush20sethk: just follow the link12:52
HurricaneJany mp3 for ubuntu like itunes to handle all my mp3 collection?12:52
hd420HurricaneJ: xmms, mpg12312:52
cmathesonHurricaneJ: rythmbox, amarok, etc.12:52
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hd420to name two12:52
TrackilizerAmarok is awsome12:52
sorush20HurricaneJ: what environment you using?12:52
sethksorush20, I don't feel energetic enough to log into my firewall and disable X site blocking12:53
HurricaneJsorush im sorry what do you mean? im a newbie-gnome12:53
HurricaneJubuntu12:53
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ompaulhd420, http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:53
thoreauputic!tell hd420 about sources12:53
sorush20sethk: its about giving up porn.. and also just remember most of the so called stars in porn end up dead or close to dead.. and by watching you are kind of contributing to their death..12:54
ompaulhd420, your sources are strange there were no line endings in there12:54
thoreauputichd420: that list is weird12:54
Epixnalioth: hello, i was here as Eroick before (aparently im still using my old name on this computer) and I was talking to you about gparted. Well, gparted wont work! I resize and then it just goes back to the original size. It also gives an error about a busy device and says I should reboot, but I have rebooted and there is NO change! Help!12:54
Hikaru79sorush20 ... what!?12:54
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sorush20HurricaneJ: linux is great you can get it to wear kde or gnome or what every you like..12:54
[cro] smileymirak, thx12:54
hd420well, it was pasted in from Terminal.app12:54
HurricaneJcool12:54
naliothEpix: use a liveCD12:54
ompaulhd420, when done - do this >>sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade<< then do this12:54
Epixnalioth: yep, I am.12:55
sorush20HurricaneJ: kde is close to windows interms of being easier..12:55
thoreauputichd420: terminal.app ? This isn't mac ??12:55
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sethksorush20, I agree with that.12:55
sorush20HurricaneJ: use a kde live cd..12:55
naliothEpix: install qtparted on your live session12:55
SturgeonHurricaneJ: rythmbox12:55
ompaulhd420, very strange output12:55
sorush20sethk: only realized this a few months ago..12:55
I_Am_if i was to try and recover grub manually after a windows reinstall, how do i tell which hard drive and partitions to use12:55
hd420I'm on a Mac, my server is Ubuntu, thoreauputic12:55
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HurricaneJi have ubuntu already installed and configured kde is diffrent isnt it?12:55
I_Am_i tried to view the /sbin/grub file and i couldn't12:56
SturgeonHurricaneJ: yes12:56
thoreauputichd420: OK i see - you are ssh ed in I suppose ?12:56
SturgeonHurricaneJ: but you have good apps for gnome12:56
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hd420thoreauputic: precisely12:56
SturgeonHurricaneJ: go to applications->audio and video and see if you have rythmbox12:56
hd420the server is 39 miles up the freeway at home12:56
bkwhat does this mean, " If you are using scim-1.0.2 as your input method platform, firefox will crash on startup."12:56
jeremywhitinghi all, what's the best way to try kde in ubuntu? apt-get install kde and cross my fingers? reinstall from scratch with kubuntu?12:56
Hikaru79bk, scim is a thing for inputting asian text.12:56
ompaulhd420, that is not an issue :)12:56
HurricaneJubuntu can use gnome and kde right? ok i see rythmbox12:56
Epixnalioth: how? I cant get online, needs ndiswrapper12:57
Hikaru79If youd on't know what it is, you're not using it :P12:57
sorush20I_Am_: kde is just a jacket for linux and the jacket is called Kubuntu.. hence anything that is done in the kde desktop environment starts with a k or has a k in there somewhere..12:57
HurricaneJim going to google for skins12:57
bkalright, thanks hikaru7912:57
thoreauputichd420: well, I suggest you get a new sources list and update12:57
wza!sources12:57
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:57
hd420ompaul: I should hope not12:57
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sorush20HurricaneJ: you can have more than one desktop environment with ubuntu.. and you can choose at login time which one you like12:57
I_Am_sorry i didn't ask about kde or kubuntu12:57
thoreauputichd420: any reason you don't want apache2 ?12:57
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HurricaneJdoes rythimbox have a pulg in for ipod support or i have to look somewhere else for ipod functionality?12:58
HurricaneJsorush ohh i did not know that12:58
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ompaulhd420, apache 1.3. will be dead after the new version of apache comes out12:58
junixonlinejeremywhiting: both are safe12:58
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sorush20I_Am_: do you have a very good idea of what your partition structure was before you messed it up?12:58
jeremywhitingok, thanks junixonline12:58
hd420I'm used to 1.312:58
SeveasHurricaneJ, gtkpod, banshee...12:58
hd420umm... 2.2 is out and 1.3 is still maintained12:58
ompaulhd420, well it is about to be unsupported if it is not unsupported already12:58
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cmathesonompaul: no, 1.3 and 2.2 are still cool12:59
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ompaulhd420, I know a core dev for that and support is going down the tubes with the next version at least in his books12:59
hd420ompaul: it better be supported... most of the companies using Apache (Yahoo, etc.) are still running 1.312:59
mwehd420: there are a lot of apache1 servers around12:59
HurricaneJi know i have been asking alot of questions i am loving ubuntu i appreciate all the assitance i been recieving12:59
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sorush20HurricaneJ: remember you can press the tab if you want the irc client your using to guess my name you don't have to type all my name.. its called tab compelet12:59
thoreauputicstart an apache war!12:59
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hd420mwe: I'm not the one claiming apache1.3 is dead, mate01:00
[cro] smileyis there a way to unmount a cdrom when i press a eject button?01:00
hd420thoreauputic: if it's good enough for Yahoo and Google, it's good enough for me01:00
mwehd420: I just realized after your last sentence01:00
I_Am_sorush01:00
thoreauputichd420: I was kidding01:00
thoreauputic:)01:00
I_Am_i haven't messed them yet01:00
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I_Am_i have yet to install windows01:00
I_Am_i am trying to get everything figured out in advance01:00
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mojo_Is there anyone here good at casting the chicken bones that make Samba work?  I have a working Samba under Dapper F2 AMD64 but I cannot FOR THE LIFE OF ME get it working under Breezy i386 on the same machine.  Any takers?  I have tried copying the smb.conf without luck.  THANKS!01:01
HurricaneJsorush what do you recommend for a wireless network manager like windows to see what networks are in my range?01:01
crimsunHurricaneJ: wifi-radar01:01
I_Am_sorush20, you still there?01:01
ompaulanyway first up hd420 you appear to have other issues that should be sorted there first - do this before we go any further >> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade<<01:01
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hd420ompaul: in progress, mate01:01
HurricaneJcrim can i find that in synoptic?01:01
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HurricaneJsynaptic**01:02
I_Am_i have saved a copy of my fstab file and emailed it to myself01:02
sorush20the command iwconfig will help alot..01:02
I_Am_that should help no?01:02
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[cro] smileyMerry Chrismas all01:02
karl_could anyone help me with FTP service?  I have tried both PURE and WU, and cannot connect via FTP to localhost01:02
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Seveas[cro] smiley, christmas was 2 days ago...01:03
sorush20[cro] smiley: marry Happy Jesus Birth day to you to..01:03
fmasiei enny one uses skype fine whith ubuntu ?01:03
Seveas!seen treenaks01:03
ubotui haven't seen 'treenaks', Seveas01:03
sorush20HurricaneJ: are you using gnome.. ?01:03
HurricaneJwhat is the default destination for music,videos and pictures?01:03
HurricaneJrush yes i am ubuntu01:03
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SeveasHurricaneJ, your homedir01:03
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Sturgeondoes anyone know a text-mode music player which allows to create playlists and is available for ubuntu? I know orpheus but i can't find it for breezy01:03
sorush20HurricaneJ: there isn't one you can make one up your self and choose one of the nicest icons out there to make it your own..01:03
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Seveas!info orpheus01:03
shadeofgreyGUYS01:04
Seveasshadeofgrey, ?01:04
HurricaneJso i have to create the folders myself is not like windows folders are already set01:04
shadeofgreybig big big news01:04
thoreauputicSturgeon: mp3blaster, cplay01:04
Seveaswell, tell us :)01:04
[cro] smileyMerry Christmas 2 day ago all01:04
shadeofgreyi finally got my first SATA harddrive for Christmas01:04
shadeofgreyso now i have a third disk to play with01:04
Seveashaha01:04
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shadeofgreywhere do i download dapper?01:04
karl_could anyone help me with FTP service?  I have tried both PURE and WU, and cannot connect via FTP to localhost01:04
maskdonce you got sata you dont turn back01:04
Seveasshadeofgrey, cdimage.ubuntu.com01:04
sorush20HurricaneJ: there really is no right or wrong.. you can set the default folder to a differen hard drive or anywhere you like windows is just for people who have no other ambitions with regards to their computer use..01:05
shadeofgreyi can finally use dapper without worrying that ill fuck something01:05
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crimsunshadeofgrey: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-December/000034.html01:05
sorush20shadeofgrey: hi..01:05
mojo_shadeofgrey: you use bittorrent?  dapper is on www.thepiratebay.org listings (flight 2)01:05
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sorush20shadeofgrey: language01:05
sdfdsfdsfadsjoin #dsf01:05
ompaulhd420, we had a presentation from an dev at the linux.ie agm and what he said was 2.3 may be called 3 but 1.x support finishes then01:05
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hd420ompaul: still getting that error01:05
sorush20sdfdsfdsfads: you forgot the "/"01:06
ompaul!ops01:06
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth01:06
ompaulah01:06
mojo_shadeofgrey: and I am still seeding (among others)01:06
fmasienny one could help me make my skype whork fine01:06
ompaulMy Mistake01:06
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sorush20HurricaneJ: you can use kwifi ..01:06
HurricaneJyeah i got tired of windows01:06
thoreauputicompaul: calm down - all is well ;)01:06
sorush20HurricaneJ: you using gnome?01:06
sethkfmasi, my skype works.  What problem are you having?01:06
ompaulhehe01:06
shadeofgreysorush20:  what do you mean "language"? isnt it obvious i speak english?01:06
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HurricaneJyeas i am ubuntu gnome 2.1201:07
rabbitwhen you install something with synaptic, it puts it 'sompelace' in the menus...   how do I know where?  what if I can't find it?01:07
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ompaulapokryphos, its okay01:07
shadeofgreymojo_:  speak with me in private for a min?01:07
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sorush20shadeofgrey: do swearing01:07
hd420ompaul: You must have heard incorrectly, mate, Apple, Yahoo, Google, etc. will NOT be upgrading Apache anytime soon, it doesn't matter anyway01:07
mojo_shadeofgrey: sure01:07
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apokryphosshadeofgrey: language, as in -- don't be profane01:07
apokryphosthat's pretty obvious01:07
sorush20HurricaneJ: you like the colours..01:07
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hd420using 2.0 is not an option for me01:07
ompaulhd420, they can maintain it themselves01:07
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HurricaneJthe brown is nice01:07
HurricaneJi found away to change themes01:07
HurricaneJgnome art is what im using01:07
sorush20HurricaneJ: you still not using tab compelete..01:08
HurricaneJi want a bootloader but i dont think ubuntu have one01:08
HurricaneJsorush what is that?01:08
sorush20type sor then tab and that is my name..01:08
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rabbitwhen you install something with synaptic, it puts it 'sompelace' in the menus...   how do I know where?  what if I can't find it?01:08
HurricaneJim a 1 day old veteran to linux01:08
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Epixnalioth: where can i snag qtparted from?01:08
sorush20HurricaneJ:01:08
HurricaneJyes01:08
apokryphosEpix: the repos01:09
naliothEpix: enable universe and get it with apt-get or synaptic01:09
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sorush20HurricaneJ: type a few letters of my name and then press tab to compelete the rest of my name01:09
karl_rabbit: if you watch what is happening from synaptic - if it puts the item into a menu, it will tell you where - usually apps/accessories or apps/applications01:09
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superchode|fufinally got ubuntu running on my EPIA board - threw in a voodoo3 PCI video card and i got kicked to a no GUI mode. any help on what to do to get GUI on the voodoo3?01:09
HurricaneJsorush20, ok cool01:09
bunglehow do I instal  *.deb file01:09
HurricaneJi did it01:09
apokryphos!deb01:09
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb01:09
bshumaterabbit: not all items installed with synaptic make it to that special someplace of the menus... ;-)01:09
johndoes anyone know how i can play a dvd in ubuntu01:09
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bungletah01:09
cimonI still think ubuntu rocks... Linux window managers will eat each other though...01:09
Tedd|Can someobyd help me? I'm looking for a good FTP client01:10
naliothubotu: tell john about dvd01:10
rabbitbshumate: then what do you do?01:10
naliothTedd|: gftp01:10
Tedd|gFTP sucks01:10
ompaulhd420, your sources should have looked like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/628401:10
sorush20Epix: bungle you just right click on it in Kubuntu and get it to install..01:10
thoreauputic!dvd01:10
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy01:10
ompaulhd420, they had no carriage returns01:10
rabbitbshumate:   oh you can edit menus right?  add it yourself?01:10
naliothTedd|: i dont appreciate your attitude. you asked, and i gave you an answer.01:10
llebergInstalling the base-system or whatever it is in english :=01:10
sorush20bungle: if your using kubuntu right click and use a menu command..01:10
karl_rabbit: yes that is another posibility01:10
Epixsorush20: ... Um, Im on ubuntu live atm.01:10
fraggstahere's another problem; how the hell do I switch VTs on a Mac running Linux?01:11
llebergCopying remaining packages to disc.. i think this went smoothly :P01:11
sorush20Epix: I'm not sure if you can install anything on there.01:11
NecrosanOkay01:11
HymnToLifecould anyone tell me how to disable a process starting on bootup ?01:11
NecrosanIt's official01:11
naliothEpix: enable universe and get it with your fave pkg manager01:11
NecrosanPCI Radeon 9250's01:11
bshumaterabbit: yes you can add a custom application to the menus after locating it using for example, the find and locate commands from the terminal, or searching for it in the file browser.01:11
Tedd|nalioth: DIdn't know you were replying. I wrote it before I saw it.01:11
NecrosanDO NOT work with fglrx01:11
fraggstaI've tried apple+alt+F2, apple+option+F2, etc..01:11
Necrosanif someone would like to send that to ati01:11
naliothsorush20: you can install anyhing you like on the live session01:11
Epixnalioth: no internet. needs ndiswrapper for wireless01:11
cafuegofraggsta: alt-F1 through alt-F6, just as per normal.01:11
sorush20Necrosan: thanks01:11
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hd420doesn't seem to matter, I still get 3 bytes of package updates01:12
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naliothEpix: Epix then you are out of luck, since at the least you'll need ntfsprogs (preferably qtparted)01:12
rabbithas anyone here used   " mail-notification "  ??01:12
fraggstacafuego: just seems to print a bunch of escape codes then do nothing01:12
Comrade_Vladimirhi there again!01:12
Tedd|So, does anybody know of a good FTP client other than gFTP?01:12
naliothTedd|: visit packages.ubuntu.com01:12
cafuegoTedd|: lftp01:12
thoreauputicTedd|: you can do ftp with nautilus (connect to server)01:13
pashawTedd|,    apt-cache search ftp      pick one01:13
rabbitTedd|:  is there something wrong with gFTP ?01:13
benplautwhoa!01:13
Epixnalioth: crap. how else can I resize? Knoppix has qtparted?01:13
benplautTedd|: you're popular :)01:13
Tedd|I know :P01:13
sorush20Necrosan: where did you find that out?01:13
Tedd|rabbit: It's no FileZilla ;)01:13
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HurricaneJi just downloaded wifi-radar.gz how do i install it?01:13
HurricaneJdouble clicking it i assume?01:14
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sorush20HurricaneJ: no01:14
johnanyone else get nothing but trouble with cedega time demo?01:14
HurricaneJwhat are the ste?ps needed to accomplish the installation01:14
cafuegoHurricaneJ: rm wifi-radar.gz; sudo apt-get install wifi-radar01:14
benplautTedd|: try kasablanca01:14
HurricaneJcool01:14
sorush20HurricaneJ: in every package you download .. there is a readme.. the .gz is just a fompression format..01:14
cafuegoHurricaneJ: You don't need to download tarballs.01:14
ompaulhd420, it failed on me - then I included for some unknown reason postfix and it worked01:14
benplautTedd|: ftpcube01:14
Tedd|benplaut: Thanks, I will01:14
thoreauputicTedd|: http://filezilla-project.org/nightly.php01:14
johnit was installed but fails the 3d tests, then ubuntu crashed because of something else. Now cedega will not open at all01:14
Necrosansorush20: Trying to make one work01:15
ompaulhd420, this box is _not_ a server01:15
NecrosanIt's a joke01:15
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HurricaneJso everything is through a sodu?01:15
john...after I click start in the cedega splash screen nothing happens01:15
rabbithas anyone here used   " mail-notification "  ??01:15
NecrosanThere's no chance whatsoever, the fglrx drivers dont even have PCI support in them01:15
naliothEpix: you can try knoppix, i'm not sure if it has qtparted or not01:15
hd420ompaul: so?01:15
naliothEpix: qtparted calls ntfsprogs btw01:15
pl_icehey01:15
sorush20HurricaneJ: yes.. sudo apt-get install wifi-radar01:15
ompaulthats all01:15
cafuegoAnd I note there is no fglrx on ppc either.01:15
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shadeofgreyhey guys which dapper do i want flight one or two?01:15
hd420maybe you're sending to the wrong person, ompaul01:15
cafuegoshadeofgrey: two is newer than one01:15
benplautthoreauputic: filezilla is open source?01:15
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thoreauputicbenplaut: have a look at the URL i gave above01:16
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HurricaneJso i know for future reference anyt software i want i do a sudo apt-get install and then type whatever the software name is?01:16
shadeofgreyokay that settles it01:16
shadeofgreynow01:16
benplautthoreauputic: i see...01:16
HurricaneJonce its done installing how do i activate it?01:16
Necrosancafuego: fglrx on ppc would be a simple recompile for ati. ;)01:16
benplauti wonder if it can be compiled w/WINE, for a half emulation01:16
cafuegoHurricaneJ: More or less, yes. You can use System -> Administration -> Synaptic for easier management.01:16
sorush20Necrosan: not funny at all..01:16
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synmooQuestion: Any way to fix the console being cut off at the bottom?01:17
cafuegoNecrosan: I doubt it. Knowing ATI their code won't even compile on a non-sactioned gcc.01:17
HurricaneJnot activate it but where does the software go for me to open it?01:17
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shadeofgreywhen i install it will it see the other ubuntu install i have and put itself into the copy of grub thats already present or will it overwrite the mbr and make itself the peimary?01:17
ompaulhd420, it (1.3.33-8) would not install without postfix with postfix it jumped right in and started ... that is all I can say on it01:17
hd420ahhh01:17
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sethkshadeofgrey, during install, unless you say skip the boot loader, it will cover it up with a new mbr01:18
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HurricaneJaww man ubuntu rocks01:18
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aconbereis there a decent source of installation documentation?01:18
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ompauland general users don't need them etc01:18
Necrosancafuego: I think it'd work. That's just my opinion though, who knows.01:18
aconberea howto... walkthrough, guide?01:18
Necrosansorush20: you got a pci radeon?01:18
Necrosanwe should petition to ati and tell them to make non suck ass drivers01:18
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benplautNews Flash: Unsupported, beta, unnofficial linux builds of FileZilla exit!01:18
marcYou guys know the workaround for the WoW mouse issue?01:18
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cafuegoNecrosan: Or we could just use nvidia.01:18
marcIs there another one, other than the normal 2?01:19
ompaulaconbere, help.ubuntu.com docs.ubuntu.com01:19
aconbereompaul: I can find documentation there for Post installation01:19
Dr_Willismarc,  ive see some env variable ya set,, and some config file ya edit..  in the cedega forums.01:19
albackeranyone heard about the kernel panic unknown-block(0,0) ??01:19
aconberebut not a single thing for pre/concurent installation01:19
marcyea, other than those two01:19
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albackercan anyone help me ?01:19
Necrosancafuego: I got an nvidia card for my mac01:19
ompaul!anyone01:19
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>01:19
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thoreauputicaconbere: the install CD actually has an install howto on it too, BTW01:20
Necrosantoo bad there's no support for acceleration in linux/ppc01:20
Tedd|How do I change to a directory with a space in it?01:20
Necrosanplus id rather use osx than linux, any day =P01:20
sorush20Necrosan: I have agp.. but I keep getting this error in my log..         (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EINVAL"01:20
Tedd|I have a director called Important Files, should I just rename it?01:20
thoreauputicTedd|: use tab compplete01:20
Necrosansorush20: weird01:20
Tedd|(I need to CD into it to run a .deb file)01:20
thoreauputic*complete01:20
Tedd|thoreauputic: Thanks01:20
Dr_Willismarc,  the place to look would be the cedega wow forums01:20
aconberethoreauputic: I'm walking a friend through it, he has no OS running at this time.  If there a way for me to access that documentation on line that would probably suffice.01:20
sorush20Necrosan: must be my motherboard..01:20
marcI've tried that Dr_Wills01:20
mcjerryTedd you could type cd 'directory with space'01:20
Epixanyone live in ottawa, ON, CA near brittanna who has a knoppix CD for me to bororow? I *really* dont want to download it...01:20
Epix:P01:21
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thoreauputicaconbere: right - I think help.ubuntu.com should have an install guide (not sure)01:21
superchode|fuanyone on getting GUI to come up with a voodoo3?01:21
djm62Epix: try the front of linux magazines in local newsagents01:21
hd420ompaul: postfix is already installed and at the newest version01:21
superchode|fuEpix: i'm only 5 or so hours away.... heh01:21
ompaulTedd|, unless it is for Ubuntu or you know exactly what your doing then don't go installing any .deb on your box - you would not put toyota parts on a nissan01:21
pl_ice u guys know is there a gui for ffmpeg ? ....01:21
Epixsuperchode|fu: quebec? toronto?01:21
superchode|fuhamilton01:21
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Epixsuperchode|fu: ah.01:22
Tedd|ompaul: It's Kasablanca.01:22
Tedd|The FTP program.01:22
HurricaneJim trying to play mp3s do i need t odownload codecs for it? since this is a new install?01:22
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aconberethoreauputic: it would be nice, but as far as I can tell no such documentation exists, the line I've heard time and time again is that it's so simple it's not needed.01:22
pl_ice u guys know is there a gui for ffmpeg ? ....01:22
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johnanyone know a quick way to check that my opengl and 3d acceleration is workin?01:22
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naliothHurricaneJ: yes you'll need to set your box up01:22
HurricaneJim using rythmbox and im trying to stream it from my windows desktop computer01:22
naliothubotu: tell HurricaneJ about mp301:22
aconberejohn: glx-gears?01:22
djm62john: glxinfo01:22
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johnhow do I run it?01:22
pl_ice!ffmpeg01:22
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, pl_ice01:22
ompaulTedd|, I know nothing of it I know gftp sftp and ftp01:22
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djm62john: type glxinfo, then enter01:23
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ompaulTedd|, random car parts do not go in other random cars01:23
Tedd|How do I install a .deb anyways01:23
Tedd|ompaul: It's for the KDE.01:23
labandusi 'm looking for tool for burning DVD'S on Ubuntu01:23
apokryphos!k3b01:23
uboturumour has it, k3b is "A sophisticated KDE cd burning application", its said to be the best burning GUI out there!01:23
vinihey guys, sorry for the stupid question, but could anyone point me in the right direction on how to share a printer from ubuntu to windows xp? i need to print from my laptop with xp on it. i looked around, but couldnt find anything helpful. thanks.01:23
djm62labandus: data DVDs or video DVDs?01:23
Tedd|ompaul: http://kasablanca.berlios.de/01:23
pl_iceTedd| there is a nice command 'apropos' eg. type apropos deb and u gonna find it ...01:23
aconberelabandus: gnome-toaster, xcdroast, gravedigger, bashburn01:24
labandusvideos dVD djm6201:24
aconberek3b01:24
johnso if I get lots of missing on desplays and segmentation fault does that mean 3d is not working?01:24
HurricaneJi have some music that i purchased from the itunes store can it be played with any player in linux or am i out of luck in that dpt? plus i have some aac files i probably have to convert them01:24
johndjm6201:24
NecrosanHurricaneJ: out of luck01:24
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djm62john: yes01:24
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djm62john: try also glxgears01:24
mcjerryvini: how is the printer connected to you linux box?01:24
vinihey guys, sorry for the stupid question, but could anyone point me in the right direction on how to share a printer from ubuntu to windows xp? i need to print from my laptop with xp on it. i looked around, but couldnt find anything helpful. thanks.01:24
johnhow do I get it working with an nvidia gf6600gt01:24
thoreauputicTedd|: if it's KDE - konqueror can also be used for ftp quite easily01:24
viniusb01:24
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johnI installed the nvidia-glx01:25
sorush20could someone please review my log here and tell me what the hell is happening with the agp initiation http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/628501:25
johndo I need to enable it somehow?01:25
naliothHurricaneJ: those files will be encrypted, which won't play encrypted in linux01:25
sally_anyone install breezy on an acer travelmate?01:25
mcjerryvini: do you have samba setup?01:25
vinii think so01:25
aconberewhat's the difference between the two partition options, erase entire disk (disk info) and erase entire disk LBM?01:25
Tedd|I just want to know how to open/install a .deb file.01:25
j2dopedoes anyone know any backport repositories i could use? mine won't update01:25
djm62john: can't help you, sorry01:25
vinihold on01:25
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ompaulTedd|, not the point, if it is not a ubuntu deb for your version it is more than likely not for you, you can do stuff like "dpkg -i foo.deb" but if it breaks do not come crying if it is you can install it using adept  or kynaptic01:25
Epixsomething tells me that the knoppix torrent will be faster than the http dl... 198 seeders01:26
johnAnyone here know how to get an nvidia gf 6600gt working?01:26
thoreauputicTedd|: sudo dpkg -i <debfile.deb>01:26
HurricaneJnalioth im trying to open some mp3 files that are located on my desktop im using rhythmbox but it wont open i did do a sodu for mp3 playback it installed is there a steop im missing?\01:26
vinimcjerry: i have it installed, just not configured, im not sure how to01:26
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ompaulTedd|, you most likely want to ask the bot how to install more repos01:26
aconberewhat the heck is LBM01:26
labandusdjm62,  whar do you to propose me01:26
naliothHurricaneJ: you've installed gstreamer0.8-mad ?01:26
thoreauputic!tell HurricaneJ about mp301:26
HurricaneJyeah01:26
Tedd|thoreauputic: THANK YOU. ompaul: I fully understand your concern, thanks. If it breaks the install then I will reformat, or whatever I have to do01:26
Tedd|ompaul: I know well how to install more repositories, thanks01:27
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ompaulLaboratory of Biological Modeling01:27
mcjerryvini: pm me, if you arenot registered, register your nick and pm me01:27
johnAnyone know how to enable 3d acceleration in breezy?01:27
djm62labandus: I suspect k3b will do the job, you might need mencoder to put the video files in the right format01:27
thoreauputicTedd|: he's only trying to help - we aren't mind readers :)01:27
aconbereoooh... LVM01:27
Tedd|I know. Thanks.01:27
jamesthebardjohn: ATI or nvidia?01:27
johnnvidia01:27
ompaullinux volume management01:27
johngf 6600gt01:28
sally_does anyone use flight 2 as their everyday machine?  I can't get breezy working on my laptop and am thinking of trying it out01:28
labandusdjm62,  i do'nt have  k3b01:28
ompauls/linux/logical01:28
thoreauputicLogical Volume Management I think01:28
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thoreauputicyup01:28
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j2dopewell could someone tell me how to upgrade to firefox 1.5 please?01:28
labandusdjm62,  isn't there another tool for burning01:28
johnjamesthebard, any idea?01:28
llebergFeels good to get a nice fresh start with my computer, new motherboard and format of the disk..01:29
aconberethoreauputic: why would one want to use that? over say, just starting the install without it?01:29
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llebergand then installing the best OS, without doing anything illegal ;)01:29
apokryphosj2dope: ther'es an entry about it on the wiki01:29
rabbitj2dope: I was told you sholdn't do it..  there's a help page somewhere about that01:29
thoreauputicaconbere: basically if you don't know, you don't need it :)01:29
jamesthebardYep.01:29
jamesthebardjohn: Yep.01:29
j2dopehrrrm.. i need the DOM inspector installed. and synaptic won't let me install it01:29
pashaw!tell john about nvidia01:29
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KenMastersa ver01:30
KenMastersalguien habla espaol?01:30
apokryphos!es01:30
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:30
KenMasterswell01:30
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mcjerryvini: google howto samba usb share printer... you need to configure samba correctly and restart samba01:30
thoreauputicfirefox 1.5 ->>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion01:30
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viniok ill try that and then come back. thanks01:31
KenMasters./dev/videoXX no exist01:31
thaleshello01:32
KenMastersroot@kendatos:~/spca5xx-20051212# lsusb01:32
KenMastersBus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:000001:32
KenMastersBus 003 Device 002: ID 041e:4012 Creative Technology, Ltd01:32
pashaw!pastebin01:32
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:32
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mcjerryvini: am leaving work will be home in a bit. pm me if you need me, i'll check when i get there01:32
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KenMastersi install spca5xx01:32
pl_icehey, anyone tried xmms with the plugin iTouch for keyboards? my crashes01:32
naliothKenMasters: please read the /topic and use a pastebin01:32
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KenMastersok01:32
HurricaneJcan i do a sudo for amarok or do i need to download it from the website i was told it has full ipod support01:32
apokryphos!amarok 1.3.701:33
ubotuI heard amarok 1.3.7 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php01:33
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JemtGreetings. I have a minor problem with Xorg. Every time I logoff and log back into Gnome og Fluxbox, the resolution is set to the maximum allowed resolution (and by that 60 Hz). I just want it to run in 1024 x 768 @ 75 Hz. How can i "hard code" this into a configuration file so it won't change back again?01:33
cmathesonJemt: remove the resolutions you don't want from your xorg.conf01:34
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llebergAfter installing, my computer wint let me have picture in X, terminal works great though01:34
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EddieDaManhi apokryphos, how do i know if ubuntu5.10 recognizes my graphics card?01:35
naliothubotu: tell EddieDaMan about hardware01:35
KenMastersplease check my problem01:35
KenMastershttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/628601:35
EddieDaManthanks01:35
Jemtcmatheson: Then I can't choose the correct monitor frequenzy01:35
AquatopiaHi, I'm trying to install ubuntu, the only cdrom I have is a bit broken, but I'm able to start the setup but as soon as it starts installing stuff it dies. Can I install of the internet as is possible with debian?01:35
sorush20!xfree86-dga01:36
ubotusorush20: Do they come in packets of five?01:36
HurricaneJis there a dock for ubuntu that i can use instead of the bottom panel to see what windows are open? i have searched but have not found any info on it01:36
apokryphos!tell Aquatopia about install01:36
JemtAquatopia: You might get lucky with a 'server' install - after that you can install the rest from the internet.01:36
Aquatopiaapokryphos, thanks :)01:36
apokryphosHurricaneJ: popular kde ones, at least, are kxdocker, ksmoothdock, and kooldock01:36
johnoh poo, i have killed ubuntu, i enabled the nvidia drivers and got blue screen saying "failed to start x server" on boot....any ideas chaps? please help :(01:36
sorush20HurricaneJ: you can just move the bar..01:36
JemtHurricaneJ: Can recommend ksmoothdock01:36
sorush20guys what is  sudo fglrxconfig01:36
HurricaneJim on ubuntu gnome 2.12 will they work on what i have?01:37
apokryphosyes01:37
thalesi hate gnome01:37
thales=/01:37
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apokryphosthales: congratulations, but no trolling here please.01:38
johnplease someone help :(01:38
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apokryphosjohn: (i) you have an nvidia card? (ii) you installed nvidia-glx (presuming you have a newish one), (iii) you enabled it in xorg.conf?01:39
johnno01:39
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johni used a command in terminal01:39
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apokryphos...config enable?01:39
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johnsudo nvidia-glx-config enable01:39
apokryphosyup, that's the same01:39
johnah ok01:40
foampeacehello, what is a good linux game site01:40
HurricaneJwow i just found disks and i ubuntu took like 10gbs + to install i have a 8-gb harddrive and i only have lik 65.41 left01:40
johnwell i did that now i have this blue screen with failed x server onboot01:40
apokryphosjohn: sometimes it helps to do a full reconfigure. Try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:40
johnshould  i disable config?01:40
ptlohmm...how can I reinstall a package? (for examplke, if I've damaged some of the files from it) using apt-get ?01:40
mwe!tell foampeace about games01:40
mwefoampeace: and happypenguin.org01:40
Davey`ptlo: apt-get install --reinstall PKG01:40
apokryphosjohn: shouldn't have to... let's go with the above.01:41
foampeacemwe: ya im at happypenguin...i did a google search..wonder if people know some other good ones01:41
ptloDavey`: thanks01:41
mwefoampeace: look at what ubotu told you01:41
Davey`ptlo: :)01:41
mwe!games01:41
ubotumethinks games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/01:41
foampeacemwe: oh right thanks01:42
pl_ice!panadol01:42
ubotuNo idea, pl_ice01:42
pl_ice:/01:42
vini12341234hey i followed the directions, and xp wants a username and password to connect01:42
HurricaneJi downloaded amarok so i dont need rhyhtmbox how can i delete software? and some games i wont be using to clear space01:42
johnapokryphos, ok done that bud, now im at my prompt01:42
woyceckhello. does anybody known how i could automatical switch to suspend by closing the labtop01:42
foampeacemwe: i like those small games like vultureseye and labrynth01:42
johnhow do i run gnome?01:42
ZeroIRC!cd burner01:42
ubotuI haven't a clue, ZeroIRC01:43
foampeacejohn : gnome-session?01:43
ZeroIRC!cdburner01:43
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, ZeroIRC01:43
apokryphosjohn: ok, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart01:43
ZeroIRClol01:43
johnapokryphos ok01:43
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ZeroIRC!cd01:43
ubotuZeroIRC: Wish i knew01:43
ZeroIRClol, ubotu don't like me01:43
ZeroIRCWhat is the CD burner on Ubuntu?01:43
naliothZeroIRC: try asking a human01:43
KnowerrorsHey all looking to modifiy/add to this command dd if=/dev/dvd of=/pub/export/nameofthedvd.iso and make a script that will automatically grab the name of the dvd and use it for the iso name, any ideas?01:43
naliothZeroIRC: you can use many. gnomebaker, graveman, cdroast01:43
johnapokryphos, hmm now my monitor cant display the screen01:43
ZeroIRCnalioth, thanks01:44
johni can hear that it has booted ok tho01:44
pl_ice!nalioth xmms+ itouch01:44
ubotupl_ice: Syntax error in line 101:44
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mwefoampeace: yeah. tried apt-cache search game too?01:44
johnapokryphosi heard the log in01:44
pl_iceheehee01:44
apokryphosjohn: perhaps you put a resolution that was out of range?01:44
foampeaceanyone played any good small linux games lately tghat are free?01:44
johnso i guess some monitor settings r wrong01:44
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johni put the right res01:44
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mwefoampeace: frozen-bubble is fun01:44
Aviatrixiegood evening from Neville Island :)01:44
johncould be refresh rate as i set to simple setup so it has auto chosen wrong one01:44
apokryphosjohn: refresh rate, too?01:44
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pl_iceany one uses xmms and itouch plugin? ....01:45
johnthe res is ok01:45
johni think01:45
johnhow do i do this01:45
fraggstaI'm partial to the odd game of XMoto :)01:45
apokryphosjohn: better go for "medium"01:45
johnrecovery mode?01:45
apokryphosjohn: press ctrl+alt+f101:45
johnwill that reboot?01:45
apokryphosdoes it take you to a bash login?01:45
apokryphosnope01:45
HurricaneJcan anybody tell me how to remove unwanted software and games to clear harddrive space?01:46
johnstill no display01:46
johnshould I power off?01:46
apokryphosHurricaneJ: from synaptic01:46
vini12341234hey guys, what is the user name and password to log onto ubuntu through XP and network neighborhood?01:46
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apokryphosjohn: ctrl+alt+backspace?01:46
Aviatrixie?01:46
johnapokryphos, still no display01:46
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apokryphosok, go for a reset then01:46
johni think i need recovery and do what you said again01:46
fraggstavini12341234: use the username and password you normally log into the Ubuntu machine with01:46
HurricaneJwhen i go to synaptic what do i look for?01:47
apokryphosjoh: ctrl+alt+f1 really should've worked though, hmm...01:47
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johnapokryphos recovery yeah?01:47
apokryphosHurricaneJ: the package you want to remove01:47
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vini12341234i tried that and it changes the name to LAPTOP\vini01:47
apokryphosjohn: sure, why not01:47
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dragonbytehow do I control what resources yenta comes up using?01:47
johnapokryphos, ok booting, youre a very patient chilled person01:47
dragonbytei have a ze4145 laptop and pcmcia starting up on the wrong irqs cause kernel panics01:47
johnapokryphos thanks01:47
HurricaneJok the ones with the ubuntu logo are the ones installed on my computer right?01:47
apokryphosjohn: no problem -- we're here to help. :)01:48
dragonbyteI had this fixed once, but I did a fresh ubuntu install and forgot to save config.opts01:48
rikaiis it just me, or is ubuntuforums.org really slow all of a sudden?01:48
cafuegoHurricaneJ: You can sort them by installed status01:48
cafuegoHurricaneJ: See the buttons down the bottom right01:48
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johnok01:48
danfredrHeisan01:48
johnso do reconfigure ya?01:48
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denialalles klar01:48
denial?01:48
HurricaneJi dont have buttons on the bottom right on the left handside i do01:49
cafuegoKeine ahnung.01:49
apokryphosjohn: yup, you might also want to stop gdm01:49
apokryphos(if it's running)01:49
johnapokryphos, do reconfigure again?01:49
apokryphosjohn: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop01:49
johnok01:49
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denialwhat kind of buttons?01:49
apokryphosjohn: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:49
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cafuegoHurricaneJ: Oh yes, the other right :-)01:49
apokryphosjohn: after you've reconfigured just do a "startx", instead of going through gdm this time.01:49
e-fonzanyone know a good banking/cashflow/bookkeeping program that easily installs on ubuntu?01:49
HurricaneJand i click on status?01:49
dragonbytee-fonz: GNUcash01:50
apokryphoskmymoney2 is meant to be good, too01:50
johnapokryphos, k01:50
denialhow boring...01:50
cafuegodragonbyte: edit /etc/pcmcia/config.opts and asdd 'ignore' rules.01:50
HurricaneJwhoa it says i have usplash isnt this the boot loader?01:50
denialhasta luego01:50
pashawHurricaneJ,   yes  then installed01:50
e-fonzdragonbyte:Tnx01:50
dragonbytecafuego: yeah, thats the hitch, i dont remember what excludes i did to make it work last time01:50
apokryphosHurricaneJ: what makes the startup pretty, yes.01:50
e-fonz05apokryphos:Tnx01:50
cafuegodragonbyte: D'oh! I only know them for my laptop (nx9005)01:51
dragonbytecafuego: right now, exclude irq 5 keeps it from blowing up (which is the irq yenta is sitting on), but it doesnt do anything01:51
johnapokryphos, im getting "xserver-org is not installed"01:51
HurricaneJhow do i configure it? i did not know i had it01:51
e-fonzapokryphos:Tnx01:51
dragonbytecafuego: I want to say I had yenta itself on irq 11 somehow01:51
apokryphosjohn: missed the x before the org01:51
johnapokryphos, silly me01:51
apokryphose-fonz: for? ;-)01:51
cafuegodragonbyte: You might be able to do that via /etc/modprobe.d/*  (check 'modinfo yenta_socket' and see if you can feed it an irq= param)01:51
e-fonzkmymoney2??????????/01:52
dragonbytecafuego: hrm...god I wish I remembered how I did this :(01:52
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apokryphose-fonz: whoops, oh yes, sorry.01:52
sorush20how do I check if my agp is working properly..01:52
e-fonzapokryphos: :)01:52
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apokryphossorush20: use it?01:53
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johnapokryphos, rebooting01:53
dragonbytecafuego: doesnt look like it :(01:53
johnapokryphos,  fingers crossed01:53
apokryphosjohn: wait, no need :)01:54
bobcatHi everyone.  i just bought and ipod and installed gtkpod to upload music to it; however, i don't think it supports photos..  does anyone know what app will?01:54
apokryphosjohn: you can just startx now01:54
johnapokryphos, even from recovery mode?01:54
pl_icecan i ask for easy help with ffmpeg? ...01:54
AviatrixieI recently migrated from M$ to Linux and love it. I also recently switched from dial-up to DSL and loving that too. I was offered a Westell wireless router for only an additional on time charge of $15us so I took it. I have not yet installed any wireless devices, yet the wireless led on the router constantly blinks. My googles indicate that means a neighbor is accessing my ISP. Further Gooling indicates I need to block that f01:54
Aviatrixieor security and to prevent reduction of bandwidth and to utilize encryption for security purposes. Since I have removed Windows entirely from my HD and MY ISP (Verizon) does not support Linux, how do I do that? A link to a howto will suffice.  :)01:54
pashawjohn,   yes01:54
johnah ok well i rebooted now01:54
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johnknow for future01:54
apokryphosjohn: yup, even from there.01:54
johnapokryphos, have display now...phew01:54
e-fonzapokryphos: installing kmymoney now, tnx a lot! gonna try GNUcash later!01:55
dragonbytecafuego: this apparently is a very well known issue too01:55
dragonbytecafuego: all over google01:55
johnapokryphos, ok, so what do I do now to prevent the whole blue screen, x01:55
dragonbytecafuego: but cant seem to find anyone who fixed it01:55
Blippehomework is just a theory and should not be taught in school!01:55
apokryphosjohn: at the command prompt now?01:55
johnapokryphos, should i reintall the nvidia drivers?01:55
dragonbytecafuego: makes me feel a little special that I did it once, but boy does it suck not remembering how I did it01:55
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johnapokryphos, yes01:55
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apokryphosjohn: no point in reinstalling; clarify that they are, though...... dpkg -l|grep nvidia-glx ?01:56
HurricaneJamarok & ipod what else do i need to download to make it read it01:56
pashawAviatrixie,   youll need to read your router manual  and enable  WEP   and/or    mac filtering01:56
pl_icepls put ur hand up if u know how to use ffmpeg01:56
apokryphosHurricaneJ: the ipod? That's it.01:56
ITSa341who here is familiar with Win98 .dll files?01:56
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pashawAviatrixie,   either will stop the casual neighbor using it01:56
johnapokryphos, is that a pipe or a j?01:57
apokryphospipe01:57
ITSa341anyone remember where wsock32.dll went in Win98??01:57
johnapokryphos, know how to get one on a gb keyboard? i see the key, what do i press with it?01:57
Evil_Whisperhi apokryphos01:58
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HurricaneJearlier i configured my wireless network but the light on my computer showing that wifi is on is not displaying the blue led it usually did what do i need to download to make it work?01:58
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apokryphosjohn: shift+ \   ...for me01:58
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apokryphosaloha, Evil_Whisper01:58
pl_iceITSa341 must be in command or straight into windows dir01:58
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johnapokryphos, thats the one01:58
ITSa341I can get AOL to load but it gives me a missing wsock32.dll error when trying to connect01:58
johnapokryphos, ok i got 3 readouts01:59
dragonbytecafuego: where would I add "pre-install usb-ohci modprobe yenta_socket" in ubuntu?01:59
apokryphosjohn: interesting; what's the first column entry in each one?01:59
johnapokryphos, nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx-legacy-dev01:59
pashawITSa341,   #windows   would be abetter place for that question01:59
apokryphosjohn: that might well be your problem :)02:00
cafuegojohn: Not both nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-legacy. Pick one of them, they are mutually exclusive.02:00
apokryphosjohn: I thought nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx conflicted, but I guess not02:00
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johnapokryphos, i want rid of legacy and dev right?02:00
apokryphosjohn: what nvidia card is it?02:00
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johngf6600gt02:00
apokryphosjohn: get rid of the legacy stuff then02:00
mojo_FLASH!  Samba now incorporates integration with entropy!  Chicken bones and tea leaves will be implemented as primary status monitoring angents  ;)02:00
johnapokryphos, know the commands in terminal?02:00
meepyHow do I installa Metacity theme? Like installing any other GTK theme, by drag n drop it into the "Themes" application?02:01
apokryphosjohn: sudo apt-get remove package1 package202:01
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POORtlandanyone editing audio with ubuntu?02:01
Evil_WhisperYeah meepy02:01
meepyThanks02:01
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NecrosanPOORtland: get a mac for that02:02
Necrosan:)02:02
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NecrosanPOORtland: http://www.necrosan.com/newcompsetup.jpg02:02
AviatrixieGawd... I'm such a newbie!  LOL  I just tried to PM you (via DCC), Pashaw and it didn't work. What is WEP?02:02
NecrosanAviatrixie: Wireless Encryption Protocol02:02
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Necrosani think02:02
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POORtlandu do necro?02:03
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mojo_WEP = Wireless Encryption Protocol, no?02:03
johnapokryphos, says theyre not installed?02:03
croutonsi02:03
dragonbytemojo_: We Eat People02:03
sklavHi Guys02:03
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flashback|afkhi02:03
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mojo_dragonbyte: o, i c02:03
sklavanybody use dfs before?02:03
pashawAviatrixie,   basic wireless security     read the manual  it should walk you through it02:03
apokryphosjohn: doesn't sound right. They wouldn't come up in dpkg -l if that was the case...02:03
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flashbackanyone using ubuntu in vmware02:04
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sklavwhat up apokryphos02:04
NecrosanPOORtland: nah, i use a mac02:04
johnapokryphos, there is an rc next to them instead of ii in the grep thing02:04
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POORtlandoh02:04
johnapokryphos, they were installed as I insalled them accidentally before02:04
POORtlandwell whats this os good for?02:04
johnapokryphos, should i try enabling glx again?02:04
apokryphossklav: heyhey; all good. You?02:04
mojo_POORtland: Gaming, of course!!02:04
johnapokryphos, or do you think it will all go pear shaped again?02:04
sklavpretty good02:04
flashbackwhat is standaard root password in ubuntu vmware image02:05
apokryphosjohn: shouldn't be necessary. Do a cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep nvidia02:05
johnapokryphos, or should I remove nvidia-glx and then reinstall?02:05
POORtlandreally?02:05
POORtlandcan u play pc games on it?02:05
apokryphosjohn: shouldn't be necesssary, nope.02:05
crazneyheya.. i just upgraded my kernel to dapper's 2.6.15-9-686 and for some reason on boot, after the kernel is loaded, it says 'ALERT! /dev/hde1 does not exist. Dropping to shell!'. works fine with previous kernels.. in the shell, i checked and there only seems to be /dev/hdb1 (cdrom).. i'm guessing the new kernel somehow probes for devices and doesn't find my hdd, which is on an hpt366 controller?02:05
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johnapokryphos, ok done that02:05
mojo_POORtland: no, not really.  Unless you count Id software and MAME02:05
POORtlandso thats what this is good for?02:06
apokryphosjohn: output?02:06
POORtlandid software and games?02:06
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johnapokryphos, nothing at all, just gos back to $02:06
johngoes02:06
pashawPOORtland,    google linux + cool stuff02:06
POORtlandwhat about like running a server w/it any advantages over xp?02:06
xjlittlehi all..I just installed ubuntu server, but can't seem to get apache to start using sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start02:06
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dragonbytewhat replaced modules.conf in ubuntu?02:06
jamesthebardPOORtland: Makes a great server.02:07
apokryphosjohn: you didn't select "nvidia", then, when you did the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:07
AviatrixiePashaw... I've never used wireless before. I am surrounded by close neighbors though. Does a blinking wireless light on my router mean someone is hijacking my service?02:07
cafuegodragonbyte: /etc/modprobe.d/*02:07
mojo_POORtland: Id software supports Linux, releases clients for their games.  Unreal Tournament 2004 (and supposedly the next one) supports Linux too.02:07
pashawPOORtland, too many advantages you should google it02:07
apokryphosjohn: perhaps did you select "nv"02:07
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apokryphos(not the same)02:07
sethkcrazney, I've noticed that with some new shell versions, things become /dev/sdX that used to be /dev/hdX02:07
no_so_sudo_smartwhat is up peoples?02:07
dragonbytecafuego: where would I put the preinstall thing?02:07
dragonbyte"pre-install usb-ohci modprobe yenta_socket"02:07
cafuegosethk: That has nothing to do with shells.02:07
johnapokryphos, yes I selected the default....nv02:07
sklavPOORtland, why did you come to ubuntu any specific question? or just bored of your current OS?02:07
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no_so_sudo_smartdang... lol imma have to change my name back to humbled...02:07
pashawAviatrixie,   dont panic  likely all they are doing is reading CNN and nudies at night big deal         but to stop them enable basic security = WEP02:07
no_so_sudo_smartoh well02:07
johnapokryphos,  i made a boo boo huh?02:07
POORtlandyea02:07
sethkcrazney, because SATA chipsets are fully supported when before they were only supported in compatibility mode02:07
POORtlandxp02:07
cafuegodragonbyte: Any file there (create one called yenta maybe)02:07
xjlittlecan anyone give me any ideas about why it won't start?02:07
no_so_sudo_smarthey got another question02:07
mojo_POORtland: but there are truly not many games out.  MAME is the multi-arcade-machine-emulator that emulates all the old ardcade hardware.  you have to find ROMS out there though02:07
sethkcafuego, his question has nothing to do with shells02:08
sklavPOORtland, so which part of XP annoys you?02:08
johnapokryphos, can i reconfigure from here?02:08
cafuegosethk: Then why did you mention shell versions? ;-)02:08
apokryphosjohn: nv is the freeformats one. nvidia is what you want though02:08
crazneysethk: hrm. it's a rather old motherboard / controller.. do you think it could be being mistaken as sdX?02:08
sethkcafuego, I didn't02:08
no_so_sudo_smarti did an apt-get install wine and it installed it but i cant seem to find it on my box... any ideas where it is located and how to put it in my applications list?02:08
sklavand maybe we can tell you of Ubuntu benefits02:08
dragonbytecafuego: can I just create a file there?02:08
flashbackanyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image02:08
apokryphosjohn: sure02:08
cafuegosethk: Yes, you really did.02:08
sethkcrazney, if it is old it doesn't sound likely.02:08
johnapokryphos,  i see02:08
dragonbytecafuego: does it read through everything in that dir?02:08
flashbackanyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image02:08
POORtlandwell i've heard that file transfers and internet stuff is faster on a linux box02:08
sethkcafuego, I meant to say kernel versions.  I think that's what I said.02:08
crazneysethk: yeah.. and there aren't any /dev/sd* there anyhow02:08
cafuegodragonbyte: Yes, and it generates a new modules.conf from those files.02:08
crazneysethk: (in busybox or whatever that shell it dropped me to is)02:09
sethkcrazney, in that case, definitely not02:09
POORtlandi send alot of large audio and video files to friends and family02:09
cafuegosethk: No, you said shell, hence my  note.02:09
sklavPOORtland, you are somewhat correct Networking is better on linux02:09
pashaw!tell no_so_sudo_smart about wine02:09
mojo_POORtland: better question is what do you hope to get out of a distro, and start from there.  That will help make it easier to decide if Ubuntu meets your requirements or not. It is, after all, a general purpos OS good for lots of things02:09
sethkcrazney, could it be the "offboard ide first" flag?02:09
POORtlandxp seems like it gets bogged down02:09
sethkcafuego, ok, I believe you02:09
no_so_sudo_smartahh pashaw... hows it going ole buddy02:09
crazneysethk: what's that?02:09
dragonbytecafuego: ok well here it goes I guess02:09
foampeacehow can you make deborphan execute after apt-get02:09
xjlittlecan anyone help me with apache?02:09
flashbackanyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image02:09
sklavPOORtland, you copuld setup a server or an ftp server to allow people to connect and get them02:09
pashawno_so_sudo_smart,   no idea who you are  diff nick id guess02:09
foampeacei mean debfoster02:09
crazneysethk: even though the controller is on the mobo i think it is treated as an offboard one..02:09
flashbackanyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image02:09
flashbackanyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image02:09
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no_so_sudo_smartits been a day since ive done a chmod... its tough but im just taking it one day at a time02:09
sethkcrazney, to get to hde, you need the extra IDE controller02:10
cafuegoflashback: Stop spamming.02:10
no_so_sudo_smartoh02:10
sethkcrazney, offboard is a misnomer02:10
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sklavPOORtland, linux " Ubuntu is built from the ground up to be a networking OS02:10
no_so_sudo_smartyeah thats right i changed it again02:10
sklavwindows was not02:10
crazneysethk: extra ide controller?02:10
foampeacehow do you make debfoster execute after an apt-get or dpkg ?02:10
Linfani have a question when i first installed ubuntu this boot screen came on but now all i see is text how can i make it go back to bootscreen02:10
no_so_sudo_smartwell the chmod should have clued you in on who i was lol02:10
johnapokryphos, ok all reconfigured02:10
hawkingwhat is the package that has the X window system header files and libraries?02:10
sethkcrazney, I know there are a couple of Asus mobo's the have the "offboard" ide onboard.  Really the extra, yes.02:10
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sorush20is there a great difference between xserver-xorg and xserver-xfree86?02:10
foampeacecd /etc/apt/02:10
flashbacknobody knows it02:10
foampeacels02:10
pashawno_so_sudo_smart,   ahh     yeah   good to see your still learning02:10
apokryphosjohn: cross your fingers and hit "startx"02:10
cafuegosorush20: Yes.02:10
AviatrixieThanks Pashaw. :) One last question... your messages to me are browm but everyone else is blue. Does this mean you are PMing me or is it just something else? I'm totally new to this venue. I assume this is IRC. (I used IRC a few times on WebTV a few years ago)02:10
apokryphosjohn: though first make sure gdm isn't running02:10
crazneysethk: i'm not sure what you mean..02:10
POORtlandwell i have 2.67ghz 256 mb ram kickn round02:10
pashawAviatrixie,   im typing your name02:10
Linfanis there a task manager for ubuntu?02:11
Aviatrixieok... ty pashaw  :)02:11
no_so_sudo_smartwell ive had linux on my comp now for 2 weeks.. and i can tell everyone what not to do with it02:11
sethkcrazney, there are two kernel compile options about the extra ide controller02:11
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Linfani want to se how much memory im using02:11
johnapokryphos, im already in x02:11
sklavjohn, try alt+F702:11
sklavif in doubt02:11
DeterministLinfan, gnome-system-manager02:11
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sklavhehe02:11
cafuegoLinfan: yes, there is. Check the Applications -> System Tool menu.02:11
sethkcrazney, one says to use it, and the other tells the kernel which of the ide controllers should be hda,b,c,d, and which should be hde, etc.02:11
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no_so_sudo_smartbut thats ok cuz sooner or later i will run out of problems to run into02:11
DeterministLinfan, system-monitor, sorry02:11
apokryphosjohn: ohh.. but in a failsafe terminal, or in gnome or something?02:11
crazneysethk: ah right02:11
toya__hey my grub's meny.lst suddenly removed my windows xp02:11
POORtlandkinda wanna setup like a network thing where i can either access it from a xp comp or others via internet02:11
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crazneysethk: well.. this is a precompiled ubuntu kernel02:12
toya__can anyone help me?02:12
no_so_sudo_smartjust getting the major "opps" 's out of the way now02:12
apokryphosjohn: heh. Just logout of that and restart X, then (ctrl+alt+backspace)02:12
seliniumAviatrixie, if you type the nickname it changes colour, and maybe beeps depending on your setup02:12
Linfani dont see system monitor02:12
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crazneyalthough previous ones worked fine.. so i'm guessing it's something that has changed in the kernel config.02:12
POORtlandput like 500gigs in it02:12
sklavPOORtland, you want to run services by the souns of it02:12
sklavlook into apache and vsftpd02:12
pashawno_so_sudo_smart,   your spamming the people that need help off the screen :(     good to see you though02:12
Aviatrixiegood news... I convinced my father (75 years old) to switch to Ubuntu. I'm going to install it and show him how to use it. His XP is history.  ;)02:12
sethkcrazney, but a different version.  It may not be related to that, but I have seen exactly that behavior when those kernel options were set differently.02:12
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sklavapache = webserver vsftp is an ftp server02:12
seliniumhi apokryphos, meery Christmas and a happy new year! Sorry it's a bit late....02:12
AviatrixieThanks selinium02:12
johnapokryphos, will it be ok that i did the reconfigure in full gnome?02:13
apokryphosselinium: no worries. Happy belated to you too :)02:13
crazneysethk: right..02:13
Linfanis it a good idea to de-activate computer activity?02:13
apokryphosjohn: no problem02:13
sklavjohn it should be ok02:13
crazneysethk: and i guess you don't know any way of overcoming it short of compiling my own?02:13
POORtlandso how should i go about this02:13
mojo_Linfan: you can also right-click on a panel (top or bottom stripes), and add to panel and choose the system monitor.  It will give you colorful graphs running there all the time for cpu, disk, memory, swap, and load.  you can config which meters show.02:13
POORtlandskalv can i pm?02:13
sklavwell u need to install ubuntu02:13
sethkcrazney, no, but since it may not be related to that at all, the first thing to do is check it out.02:13
johnapokryphos, and to restart x?02:13
pashawAviatrixie,   dont do that till you are experienced enough to fix it for him      you might leave him hanging02:13
foampeacehello, how do you make debfoster run after apt-get or dpkg?02:13
Aquatopiaapokryphos, can I somehow from the install cd, pick to install from the internet rather than using the packages on the cd?02:13
sklavsure POORtland02:13
seliniumAviatrixie, no problems! Just as an aside, if you type the first few letter of a nick and hit the TAB key, it auto completes it for you!02:13
sklavpm me02:13
crazneysethk: to check it out means i need to build my own?02:14
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AviatrixieI spent 3 hours today updating dad's virus defs, windows updates, adaware defs, running scans... it's absolutely rediculous.02:14
apokryphosjohn: yup. Logout of gnome and ctrl+alt+backspace after02:14
apokryphos!tell Aquatopia about install02:14
johnapokryphos, k02:14
sethkcrazney, no, in console mode, see if hde is really hda, and v.v.02:14
sklav! tell sklav about dfsbuild02:14
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, sklav02:14
johnapokryphos, failed to start the x server02:14
sethkcrazney, if fdisk is available, you can use fdisk -l to do that02:14
apokryphosjohn: what's the error?02:14
apokryphosjohn: btw, you're on breezy, right?02:14
Aquatopiaapokryphos, I just read that and it has nothing on what I'm asking about. I know how to do a netboot, which this network card is unable to do.02:15
crazneysethk: but for that i need to boot into that kernel, which i can't do02:15
seliniumAviatrixie, does your father use the internet for anything other than internet, document stuff?02:15
purpleheart_USMCcan someone telll me where i can find a list of linux compatable hardware?02:15
sethkcrazney, you said you boot the kernel and it drops you into a shell02:15
crazneysethk: and changing the root=/dev/hde1 to root=/dev/hda1 doesn't work02:15
crazneysethk: well yeah,02:15
johnapokryphos, yeah.....when i go to diagnose it says fatal server error: no screens found02:15
apokryphosAquatopia: you unfortunately can't do one just like debian's (I think they're hoping for that to be possible in the future). The only other install options are listed there.02:15
crazneyit loads the kernel, then i guess when the kernel tries to moun the fs or something02:15
crazney*mount02:15
Linfanin memory and swap it says user memory of 725.5 does that mean it is only using 217mb of my ram? also any reason why my cpu is running at 22%02:15
Aquatopiaapokryphos, ok, thank you02:15
sethkcrazney, right.02:16
DRAGON_Ultrayou all can go back to windows if this linux stuff is to hard for you lol02:16
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apokryphosjohn: curious. It'd often say that if it didn't configure X appropriately (or one of the three first things I mentioned wasn't in place).02:16
sethkcrazney, really there are only two possibilities, either it has a problem with the IDE hardware, or with the file system type02:16
crazneysethk: and in that shell, the only /dev/hd* that exists is /dev/hdb which is the cdrom02:16
sethkcrazney, the only one that exists, or the only one that is mounted?02:16
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Aviatrixiepashaw... I'm a recently medically retired airline pilot (big jets), former vice president of the Pittsburgh Users Group, and familiar with Windows, Mac, and a bunch of older OS's, starting with the TI99. I love PC's, but I'm an absolute Linux newb. I am a quick study tho.  ;)02:16
johnapokryphos, what were the first things u mentioned?02:16
sethkcrazney, although, either way, it is finding the ide hardware02:16
crazneysethk: the only one that has a device file02:16
crazneythe cdrom is connected to the other ide controller02:17
Fredis there a way i can clear the dns cache on my system?02:17
pashawAviatrixie,   youll have alot of fun then  for sure02:17
apokryphosjohn: (i) no nvidia card set up, (ii) not in xorg.conf file listed, (iii) drivers not installed.02:17
sethkcrazney, if it is hdb, then you know which device is hda to the kernel02:17
AviatrixieSo I will come here with questions until I understand it all02:17
pashawAviatrixie,   good plan02:17
Aviatrixiepashaw... so far I love everything about linux02:17
sethkcrazney, I think I would try connecting hde to the primary master (hda), and use a root=, and see if it boots02:17
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johnapokryphos, its a fairly fresh installation so shall i just cut my losses and reinstall ubuntu?02:18
sethkcrazney, not as a fix, but as a test02:18
apokryphosjohn: try a sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-glx-legacy-dev02:18
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crazneysethk: yeah ok. will try. ta.02:18
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mlalkakahi everyone02:18
apokryphosjohn: nope, you shouldn't really ever need to reinstall.02:18
flashbackany know vmware02:18
apokryphosjohn: could you pastebin the output of lspci|grep -i nvidia ?02:18
johnapokryphos, that from the prompt i am left with?02:18
apokryphosjohn: sure02:18
mlalkakahow can i determine what type of RAM is installed on my computer? (e.g. pc2100, pc2700, pc3200, ...)02:19
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johnok its still saying that it has no legacy or legacy dev installed02:19
croutonmlalkaka: short of opening it up and taking a peek?02:19
dragonbytecafuego: no go...didn't work...do you know how to get yenta to load before usb?02:19
pashawmlalkaka,   likely your bios  will report it02:20
Aviatrixiepashaw I called Verizon when I signed up last month and told them of my plans to migrate to linux. The seemed oblivious and said they do not support it, but they hear there are workarounds02:20
Razor-Xdoes anyone here have experience with mpd? (not the disorder)02:20
POORtlandi guess i cant pm u sklav02:20
apokryphosjohn: hm, ok, nevermind.02:20
crazneysethk: well that works (as i expected)02:20
dereks_does anyone have problems with banshee always crashing with dapper02:20
crazneysethk: so i guess the kernel has problems with my ide controller..02:20
apokryphosjohn: pastebin that lspci output if possible02:20
pashawAviatrixie,   they ment  dont call them for help is all02:20
apokryphosjohn: if you want to get back into gnome with nv (which is good, but no 3d), just edit xorg.conf and switch "nvidia" to "nv"02:20
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johnapokryphos, how could i do that without gnome?02:20
sethkcrazney, that's my guess, yes, but you can fix it with a rebuild, so it isn't too terrible.  inconvenient02:20
POORtlanddoes ubuntu boot from startup?02:20
Aviatrixiepashaw I figured that02:20
Aviatrixieso I will come here for help ;)02:21
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dragonbyteanyone know how to get yenta to load before usb in ubuntu?02:21
pashawAviatrixie,   DSL right>?02:21
crazneysethk: yeah, yuck though..02:21
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oxezIn which package can I find 'gtkmm.h' ?02:21
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apokryphosoxez: libgtkmm2.0-dev02:22
sethkcrazney, put in a report, maybe they'll fix it before the release02:22
Aviatrixiepashaw, yes... dsl... it's ok, but I'm 2 miles from the nearest co... only pulling 1.5. I'll prolly switch to comcast when the contract is up.02:22
johnapokryphos, think im just going to reinstall, im too much of a windows user for anything else lol02:22
apokryphosoxez: you can use apt-file or packages.ubuntu.com for things like that02:22
oxezapokryphos: I already have it installed02:22
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apokryphosoxez: then you have it02:22
oxezapokryphos: but g++ keep telling me that <gtkmm.h> doesn't exist02:22
apokryphosjohn: it wouldn't really help02:23
johnapokryphos, and install the nvidia drivers fresh and make sure I dont install the wrong ones02:23
no_so_sudo_smartwww.winehq.com02:23
pashawAviatrixie,  nothing wrong with DSL   but good to have choices02:23
crazneysethk: yeah, about to do that.02:23
johnapokryphos, u dont htink?02:23
mlalkakacrouton, pashaw: well what are some diagnostic tools that tell me some info on ram?02:23
apokryphosoxez: ls /usr/include/gtkmm-2.0 ?02:23
johnapokryphos, no harm in trying02:23
apokryphosjohn: you'd have to do the same stuff again, really.02:23
croutonmlalkaka: not sure02:24
Linfani downloaded the latest firefox but i dont know how to install it02:24
apokryphosjohn: I'm devoutly against reinstalls, but Windoze users do seem to like it 8)02:24
crazneyok.. another problem.. which i've had before on another computer but i can't rembmer how to fix it.. for some reason ctrl-alt-f1 etc isn't working to change to a console from x..02:24
johnapokryphos,  i would? but I thought my installing the wrong drivers in the first place has caused this02:24
crazneyanyone know about that one?02:24
Linfando i need to download it of the terminal or synaptic02:24
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no_so_sudo_smarthow do i make an apt-get installed program to be recognized in the applications menu? i tried the applications menu editor but wine isn't in there02:24
oxezapokryphos: I have it02:24
apokryphosLinfan: it's a deb?02:24
ITSa341bbiab, reboot time02:24
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Razor-XWindows users like reboots a lot too :P02:24
pashawmlalkaka,   thats not a common task   if bios doesnt report it  youll have to remove them and google the model numbers02:24
Linfanfirefox-1.5.tar.gz02:24
Aviatrixiepashaw... after 2 decades of dial-up, even 1.5 down is wonderful. But a friend of mine pulls nearly 6.0 down with comcast cable, and she's 15 miles out in the sticks.02:24
johnapokryphos, is there anyway to just rip all of the video drivers out and the x config?02:24
kakeiRazor-X, yes  21:25:03 up 4 days,  8:50,  2 users,  load average: 0.93, 1.31, 1.3202:25
kakei :D02:25
johnapokryphos, and set it all up from scratch02:25
apokryphosRazor-X: while linux users have competitions on uptime ;-)02:25
POORtlandis bittorrent any faster on linux?02:25
Razor-Xapokryphos: we just had one yesterday02:25
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Razor-XHrdwrBoB beat my current uptime out of the water02:25
flashbackcan anyone help02:25
sklavjohn, if not mistaken you can run dpkg --reconfigure xorg02:25
djm62POORtland: no reason to be02:25
Linfani dont know the right command to download firefox02:25
sklavor something similar to it02:25
apokryphosjohn: you can remove that pack (nvidia-glx), and the dpkg-reconfigure  is a full reconfigure of your xorg.conf file, so....02:25
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Razor-X17:22:36 up 17 days,  5:02,  8 users,  load average: 0.20, 0.11, 0.0902:25
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oxezapokryphos: g++ still tell me that gtkmm.h doesn't exist..02:25
djm62POORtland: linux can not make the internet itself faster (although some things have been reported to be a bit smoother)02:26
apokryphosRazor-X: what was the record? A person I saw in #kde still has the record (from what I've seen) with 360 days02:26
Aviatrixiepashaw... Verizon told me their DSL could pull down up to 3.0 meg download, and promised at least 1.5. I'm at the bottom now.02:26
djm62360 days is nowhere near the record....02:26
apokryphosoxez: hm, annoying. It must be looking for it somewhere else.02:26
Razor-Xdjm62: in my experience, TCP is implemented much better in Linux02:26
Razor-Xyeah, it has to be some number of years02:26
apokryphosdjm62: not of all-time, of course -- from waht I've seen on IRC>02:26
johnso if i remove nvidia glx02:26
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Razor-Xhah, I'm going at a pathetic 17 days :P02:27
sklavthe most uptime i have heard of is something like a 3 years02:27
johnand re run xserver reconfig02:27
Razor-Xbecause of that, I refuse to restart to add a PS/2 device02:27
sklavon linux02:27
djm62although how uptime works with hardware suspend functions02:27
johnapokryphos, and then install glx again02:27
sklavand 8 - 10 years on some type of bsd02:27
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apokryphosI've heard stories on the internet of several BSD and Linux servers going for a few years, too02:27
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pashawAviatrixie,   bummer02:27
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apokryphosjohn: yup, that's it.02:27
oxezapokryphos: oh, nvm, I forgot to add parameters to g++, sorry for wasting your time02:27
djm62(I'm sure my ipaq went more than a year without being formally rebooted, just suspended every time I wasn't using it)02:27
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apokryphosoxez: no worries02:27
Evil_Whisperyou get that msg apokryphos?02:28
johnapokryphos, do i need to stop gdm?02:28
johnor is that just gnome?02:28
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sklavanybody have a link on how to build my own custom iso of ubuntu?02:29
apokryphosjohn: shouldn't need to, but might be a good idea.02:29
sklavjohn reboot if your able to02:30
johnapokryphos, im in with nv02:30
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johnapokryphos, so i install glx again02:30
sklavyes john02:30
sklavand then make sure to run sudo nvidia-glx enable on a command line02:30
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pashawsklav,   linux format magazine   LFX74   christmas issue has a Build your own Howto02:31
Fredhow do i force a reload of the network config?02:31
apokryphosFred: ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth002:31
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sklavpashaw, is it based on debian or just using sources?02:31
Fredapokryphos, i cant "ifup" remotely tho can i?02:31
pashawsklav,  knoppix debian  mentions ubuntu  i believe02:32
sureshotHello can someon please advise me on what software to use that is compatible with a ulead tv 2000 pro tv card02:32
djm62Fred: at +2m ifup eth0 ;)02:32
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sklavFred, you could if you script it in crontab "Not Recommended"02:32
sureshotto watch movis02:32
sureshotmovise02:32
johnSklav, do I enable glx before or after i reconfigure xserver for nvidia?02:32
djm62Fred: assuming you have the at command02:32
apokryphosFred: it isn't I'm afraid02:32
apokryphoshm02:32
Fredthe what command?02:32
sklavjohn after you edit xorg.conf and replace the line nv with nvidia02:33
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djm62Fred: the "at" command which allows you to do things at some time in the future02:33
sklavyou run the command also make sure kernel-modules-unsupported is installed02:33
Fredi typed "at" and it said "garbled time"02:33
djm62Fred: I believe the *BSD version allows you to have done things in the past, too02:33
sklavfor your running kernel by the way02:33
johnSklav, how do i edit xorg.conf, can i open the file? if so how?02:33
djm62Fred: the syntax is at <time> <command>02:34
ssstormyhey02:34
djm62Fred: man at02:34
sklavsudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:34
ssstormyor I should say: "hello guys"02:34
Fredso i could do at +1m ifdown eth0 and then at +2m ifup eth0 ?02:34
sklavnot usually required02:34
Deterministjohn, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:34
sklavbut if you have to that is how02:34
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djm62Fred: do the ifup with the time delay first, then ifdown manually?02:34
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Fredwell apokryphos said to do down then up :/02:35
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ITSa341SUCCESS   I got it working finally02:35
ssstormyI'm running a SID release of mysql5.0 (I know it's unsupported and all) but is there a configuration setting to close the ports to te world?  My mysql server is only running on localhost; the port is only open when I scan localhost02:35
djm62Fred: but you don't have to type the commands in that order...02:35
johnok i edited xorg.conf02:35
Fredoh yeh, true02:35
Fredthanks :)02:35
hd420ssstormy: bugger, mate02:35
johnnow where do i go?02:35
hd420my apache problem still remains02:35
ssstormyhd420, it's not a config option?02:35
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hd420I don't know02:36
ssstormyhd420, what's your issue?02:36
sureshotwhat it a good program to run with my movie card02:36
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Goldfischssstormy: Doesn't the mysql.user table control who has access to what? You can contrain all users to only be allowed from host "localhost".02:36
hd420as I use postgresql or Oracle02:36
hd420trying to install the apache atp, getting error 102:36
Goldfischsureshot: I use mythtv.02:36
sklavjohn u need to logoff and the hit crtl+alt+backspace02:36
johnsklav, i have changed nv to nvidia bud, now where do I go02:36
ssstormyGoldfisch, and that would stop the port from opening?02:36
hd420err... apache apt, I mean02:36
johnsklav, what about enabling glx?02:36
ssstormyhd420, try it from the command line02:36
ITSa341<-- signed into AOL and it all works!!   only took 3 days  LOL02:36
sklavyes enable it first02:36
ssstormyhd420, it will give you debug output02:36
sklavand then do last step i mentionned02:37
hd420ssstormy: how?02:37
sureshotgoldfisch do you have a tv capture card02:37
hd420apt-get install apache02:37
Goldfischssstormy: If you are running a service on a machine, like mysql on 3309, (or whatever), the port is open. If you are behind a firewall and don't forward the port, then it is closed to everyone on the other side.02:37
ElitePetecan anyone tell me what a good AUDIO CONVERSION tool for linux is, IE FLAC to MP3 ?02:37
Freddjm62, i get some odd stuff... parse error. Last token seen: m02:37
sklavok john do the following02:37
sklavsudo nvidia-glx-config enable02:37
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ssstormyGoldfisch, it's forwarded.  but I scan localhost and it's open02:37
mac_is it possible in (k)ubuntu to have a given font be available as both, anti-aliased and non-AA?  For example, for kword I'd like to use AA version of Arial, but for general usage in KDE/GNOME, such as menus and the interface, I'd like to use the non-AA version of Arial...  can this be done?02:37
ssstormyI scan 192.168.1.101 (my wlan adaptor)02:37
ssstormyand it's closed02:37
Goldfischsureshot: Of course (or I wouldn't be running much of anything, ehh?) I have a Jetways BT878 one.02:37
ssstormyhd420, yeah02:37
djm62Fred: I don't recall the time specification... + something02:37
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Aviatrixiepashaw, anyway, I picked up a nice beige box at the local thrift for $35us... an old server for a local ad agency ( They didn't slick their hard drive, silly humans LOL) It's a pentium 2 266 on an MS6111 MB (oddball Intell chipset, but tomshardware gave it a fab review back in 97) with a 10 gig hd, a 4 meg pci vid card, a pci nic, and and an ISA modem. Now... as a reasonably intelligently person BUT a total Linux newb... Am I02:38
Aviatrixie biting off more than I can chew right now?02:38
hd420subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102:38
sureshotogoldfisch i have a ulead tv 2000 pro with fm tuner02:38
ssstormyhd420, or apache2.  Also, you can cd /var/cache/apt/archive and do dpkg -i packagename.  the cache for all of apt's downloaded packages is there02:38
ElitePetecan anyone tell me what a good AUDIO CONVERSION tool for linux is, IE FLAC to MP3 ?02:38
Goldfischssstormy: You mean the firewall-router between yourself and the world is forwarding traffic to your mysql server?02:38
ssstormyGoldfisch, you bet02:38
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Goldfischssstormy: Is that your intention?02:38
ssstormyGoldfisch, and I know it's working cause apache and ftp is working02:38
djm62Fred: at now + 3 minutes .....02:39
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ssstormyyeah I want it to forward the 3306 port to my computer02:39
tellimhi all, i have libdvdcss2 installed as instructed here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback  ... but cant play any dvds.... xine error says vtsn=-1,domain=2 .... anyone have any idea what might be wrong?02:39
sklavssstormy, are u scanning internally ?02:39
ssstormysklav, yes02:39
sklavif so it will obviously show up02:39
Fredthanks djm6202:39
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zakwhat is the package for X development - headers, etc.?02:39
hd420same error02:39
existanceI just reinstalled XP and it either wrote over GRUB or shoved it out of the way, how can i fix it?02:39
ssstormyI scan "localhost" (127.0.0.1) and it's open02:39
pashawAviatrixie,   that would make a good personal server  but not desktop   unless you set it up as a thin client02:39
psusiAviatrixie, you might want to get a slightly more recent machine... but the real answer to your question is "how bad do you want to get that working"?02:39
johnsklav, it wouldnt let me enable, said i needed to change nv to nvidia in xorg.conf but i already did and saved it02:39
Freddjm62, parse error. Last token seen: ifup02:39
sklavssstormy, that is normal02:39
Goldfischssstormy: There are two ways to forward traffic, either your entire mysql server has been placed in the firewalls' DMZ, or you configured it to forward the mysql port. What is your setup?02:39
ssstormyI scan "192.168.1.101" (my net adaptor, and what the network sees me as) and it's not there02:40
psusiexistance, reinstall grub02:40
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ssstormyGoldfisch, just port forwarding02:40
sklavjohn, is the file u edited xorg.conf in /etc/X11 ?02:40
existancepsusi, I'd have to do that from a live CD though right?02:40
johnsklav, yes02:40
ssstormyhd420, if you read though there should be error output02:40
ssstormybesides "error 1"02:40
johnsklav, ive rebooted02:40
Goldfischssstormy: If you don't want anyone other than localhost user's getting to that, than remove that port for the forwarding list.02:40
pashawAviatrixie, cool deal tho   now you can learn Ubuntu  and server stuff02:40
sklavok john im confused somewhat give me a sec02:40
psusiexistance, I think you can do it from the setup cd too... if you choose an advanced setup, you can choose only to install grub, then quit02:41
ssstormyGoldfisch, other way round.  I want the world to have access to my mysql server02:41
hd420ssstormy: dpkg: error processing apache (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102:41
sklavu rebooted the system or X02:41
ssstormyhd420, read before that02:41
existancepsusi, hmm, I'll try it, thanks for the help02:41
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hd420Unpacking replacement apache ...Setting up apache (1.3.33-8) ...02:41
regpluswhat is command to copy Samba folder from desktop to /etc folder?02:41
hd420that's all dpkg wrote02:41
djm62Fred: you'll need root access (sudo -s) then do at +3 minutes <enter> then put in the commands you want done02:42
ssstormybefore the error!? that's werid02:42
ssstormytry apache202:42
dragonbytedoes anyone know how i can get yenta socket to load with a different irq?02:42
Goldfischssstormy: Then what is the matter? You are having issues with people connecting to it?02:42
pashawregplus,   why is samba on the desktop?02:42
djm62Fred: been a while since I used at.... I think that's the final answer02:42
sklavjohn, make sure there is no typo02:42
regplusits backup02:42
ssstormyGoldfisch, yes.  cause the port is not open for remote users02:42
Fredahhhhh ok thanks a lot djm62 :D02:42
regplusso I want overwrite current Samba folder which is in etc folder02:43
johnsklav, there doesnt seem to be02:43
sklavit should look like this02:43
sklavDriver"nvidia"02:43
johnsklav, i rebooted but back to same prob as before02:43
sklavin the proper section02:43
pashawregplus,   why not just copy over the config files02:43
ssstormyGoldfisch, my router is all set up nice, and my firewall too, but the only place port 3306 is open is on localhost, not on my network adaptor, thus no one can access the server02:43
johnsklav, yes it is like that but after reboot i get the failed blu escreen again02:43
regplusI can not use copy/paste because it wont let me02:43
sklavjohn which nvidia card do you have?02:43
Freddjm62, once i've typed the command(s), how do i get out of the edit thing?02:43
pashawregplus,    you'd use mv    but   dont blame me02:44
djm62Fred: ctrl-D02:44
Fredctrl+c doesnt save it02:44
Fredah thanks :D02:44
johnsklav, gf6600gt02:44
Goldfischssstormy: Is this some iptables configuration? I don't understand what you mean by the port being closed. The firewall is defining what is open and closed, and you just explained to me how the firewall is open.02:44
sklavhum i have the 620002:44
ssstormyGoldfisch, well I disabled all firewall activity and it didn't help02:44
sklavand it works02:44
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ssstormythe port was still closed02:44
johnsklav, im still thinking a reinstall may be beneficial02:44
Deterministjohn, i've set up my 6600GT and it works like a charm, what seems to be the problem? sorry, following with one eye here02:45
johnsklav, it will determine if it is the drivers or the card02:45
sklavjohn have u installed the kernel-unsupported modules?02:45
regpluspashaw, mv /home/user/samba /etc    ?02:45
johnsklav, dont think so02:45
Aviatrixiepashaw, thin thin client is exactly what I'm thinking. I used MSN dial-up for years and got webtv free on thier MSN One Plan. MSN sucks as a primary means of accessing the web, but is superb as a way to surf. I used it for years, and only unplugged it a few weeks ago when I bought my new house and the TV was too far from the damn (small Linux... which I love!) phone jack. So, I was going to give it to him, but then I got to t02:45
Aviatrixiehinking of migrating him to linux. So... here I am.02:45
Goldfischssstormy: How do you know this? Are you trying to connect from an external IP address via port 3306?02:45
sklavjohn u would need them02:45
ssstormyyes, that is my goal02:45
sklavuse synaptic to check02:45
johnDeterminist, get failed to start xserver blue screen02:46
Aviatrixieoop... MSN = MSNTV02:46
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johnsklav, what do i do in synaptic?02:46
apokryphosjohn: could you pastebin the output of lspci|grep -i nvidia  ?02:46
apokryphosmight be useful02:46
Deterministjohn, right, it happens sometimes. did you download the nvidia driver from their site and installed it or did you use the binary package that comes with ubuntu from the repository?02:46
sklavwhich kernel are u running?02:46
sklavtype uname -a in a command line02:47
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AviatrixieFor myself, I'm thinking of building a flexat for my tx02:47
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sklavapokryphos, it might be linux-restricted-modules is not installed02:48
Deterministjohn, go with sklav's method, if that doesnt work gimme a holler, i'll show you how i did it. i dont want to interfere with their way in the middle02:48
bkcan someone help me.  i don't have the 'Add/Remove Programs' in the applications menu anymore.02:48
johnapokryphos,  will do pastebin hang on02:48
apokryphossklav: shouldn't really matter02:48
Deterministbk, system tools->menu editor, just check it's box there and voila02:48
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bkit's not in the menu editor, i checked.02:48
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johnDeterminist, i used the one in repository02:49
sklavapokryphos, according to the restricted modules nvidia is a module of it02:49
Deterministbk, not sure then, sorry02:49
sklavor required to get nvidia working02:49
Markus_Needs_Heli'm trying to recover grub manually after reinstalling windows02:49
foampeaceanyone played stratagus02:49
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apokryphossklav: you only need that when you're getting/running the driver from their site I believe. If nvidia-glx needed it, it'd pull it in.02:49
Evil_Whisperback apokryphos02:49
tellimMarkus_Needs_Hel, you might try the ultimate book cd... can help you recover from something like that02:49
tellimer, ultimate BOOT cd02:49
Deterministjohn, i've used the binary from nvidia... so sorry, go with sklav unless that doesnt work and i'll show you how it's done instead. btw, there's an excellent newbie how-to on ubuntuforums for this method.02:49
jsubl2Markus_Needs_Hel: boot the install cd and type rescue... follow the prompts02:49
apokryphosEvil_Whisper: 'llo02:49
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Markus_Needs_Helwell i just went with the live cd02:50
sklavbut if he is using a k7 kernel after pulling in glx im not sure it does02:50
Markus_Needs_Heland now i'm using terminal in ubuntu live02:50
Markus_Needs_Heli'm in grub02:50
sklavbut i could be wrong02:50
Markus_Needs_Helbut it gives me an error02:50
leather_n_luvanyone here write scripts?02:50
Markus_Needs_HelError 21: Selected disk does not exist02:50
Milk_has anyone here run into this error "Special Device does not exist."?02:50
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johnapokryphos, its in pastebin02:51
dereks_does anyone have problems with banshee always crashing with dapper02:51
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apokryphosjohn: link?02:51
leather_n_luvanyone here know how to use 'sed'?02:51
Markus_Needs_Helmy ubuntu partition is listed in fstab as hde202:51
ubuntuhello02:51
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Markus_Needs_Helso i entered it as hd4,102:51
ubuntuhow do i install firefox 1.502:51
iceanyone have flashfxp and wine ?02:51
icegot a ?02:51
workbean_ubuntuhas anybody noticed that Ubuntu's time lags when it's ran in VMware02:51
apokryphosubuntu: check the wiki -- there's a guide.02:52
johnapokryphos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/629102:52
iceno one answering at winehq  lol02:52
foampeacehow come firefox isnt in the repository yet02:52
ssstormyubuntu, you can also use one of the SID reps02:52
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ssstormySID has firefox1.502:52
regplusWhere to read how to copy files via terminal?02:52
leather_n_luvice: did you try a dual boot to windows to use flashFXP?02:52
djm62foampeace: firefox is, but new software does not get put into the stable repos02:52
iceno using wine02:52
ssstormyregplus, type "man cp"02:52
foampeaceubuntu: maybe you can find a firefox deb package for breezy02:52
apokryphosjohn: looks like your problem :)02:52
johnapokryphos, bearing in mind i changed nvidia back to nv to boot into gnome02:53
foampeacedjm62: its not stable?02:53
djm62I guess the breezy version of firefox will be pretty much obsolete by the time dapper comes out ;)02:53
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apokryphosjohn: that wouldn't change the output of that command. It's saying X/Linux doesn't recognise the card properly. "Unknown Device"02:53
leather_n_luvi need some help from someone that knows how to use 'sed'02:53
ssstormydjm62, when's dapper scheduled for release?02:53
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foampeacedapper?02:53
djm62foampeace: the repos are stable. that means no new software, only security fixes.02:53
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johnapokryphos, should I go with determinist and the nvidia site drivers?02:54
djm62ssstormy: april02:54
foampeacedjm62: dapper is the next release?02:54
johnapokryphos, if he is still here that is02:54
djm62ssstormy: by which time firefox 1.0.6 will be completely unable to render webpages02:54
apokryphosjohn: it would indeed work if it was done properly, yes.02:54
Deterministjohn, i'm here :)02:54
foampeaceis ubuntu ahead of debian in development?02:54
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johnDeterminist, yey, please save me! ha ha02:54
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Amaranthfoampeace: on some things02:54
apokryphoslike KDE ;-)02:55
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Amaranthfoampeace: it syncs with sid for a couple months plus adds the latest GNOME, KDE, and X stuff02:55
johnDeterminist, direct moi02:55
leather_n_luvis there a channel for scripting?02:55
tellimcan anybody tell me what repo to use to get libdvdcss2 for breezy?02:55
pl_icehey, what file is :  *.flac  i know it's an iso ...02:55
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Amaranthleather_n_luv: what language?02:55
apokryphos!tell tellim about libdvdcss202:55
Deterministjohn, alright, brb, i'll get you a link for a howto. i want you to follow this howto and ask me questions if something isnt clear about the instructions or if you cant complete them in any way. seems best to me.02:55
server_newbieHi all02:55
tellimubuntuguide lists hoary repos02:55
johnDeterminist, k02:55
apokryphos!tell tellim about ubuntuguide02:55
leather_n_luvAmaranth,  bash or sh02:56
pl_ice!flac02:56
ubotuNo idea, pl_ice02:56
server_newbieWhere can I get a copy of the defualt apache2.conf filr I have dog'd mine bad !!!02:56
sophtpawtellim: replace hoary with breezy02:56
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Amaranthleather_n_luv: have you tried #bash? :)02:56
jhennis beagle in ubuntu?02:56
sophtpawwww.ubuntuguide.org02:56
djm62jhenn: yes02:56
johnsomething else I dont understand is why cedega only opens after I install it...follow a reboot and it wont run?02:56
Amaranthsophtpaw: Please don't tell people to go to that site.02:56
ElitePetecan anyone tell me what a good AUDIO CONVERSION tool for linux is, IE FLAC to MP3 ? (GUI please)02:56
leather_n_luvpl_ice, *.flac = "free lossless audio codec" = sound file02:56
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jhenndjm62: how do you install it?02:56
tellimsophtpaw, did that, but still wasnt able to find libdvdcss2 for breezy02:57
sophtpawAmaranth: ?? : <02:57
Amaranthsophtpaw: they have you do odd things02:57
apokryphossophtpaw: the site is evil and has notoriously caused a lot of problems with its advice.02:57
djm62jhenn: I thing the name is best (or similar)02:57
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pl_iceleather_n_luv my mate needs that u/d windowz how do i conver it to mp3 etc?02:57
leather_n_luvAmaranth, will try...02:57
jhenndjm62: huh?02:57
ElitePetecan anyone tell me what a good AUDIO CONVERSION tool for linux is, IE FLAC to MP3 ? (GUI please)02:57
Deterministjohn, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074 <--- you need method 2 which is specified in length after the summary of all 3 methods.02:57
sklavok im off guys i need sleep02:57
sophtpawAmaranth: sorry, didn't know. It has been very helpful in my life02:57
sklavim burnt02:57
apokryphos'night sklav =)02:57
workbean_ubuntuno one had that experience? hmmm...02:57
skonI'm trying to change my application menu but the names of the folders won't change when I change the name in the box...anyone know why?02:58
johnDeterminist, ok ill try it bud02:58
djm62jhenn: apt-get install beagle02:58
leather_n_luvpl_ice, don't know, not familiar enough with sound prog's...02:58
sophtpawtellim: have you gone to synaptic and updated repos there?02:58
djm62jhenn: this is on breezy02:58
pl_icethnx02:58
Deterministjohn, i'll give you a link also to the nvidia site for the file you need to download (latest driver isnt the one you need).02:58
sklavlater apokryphos john Determinist02:58
Amaranthskon: What one are you trying to change?02:58
Deterministcya sklav mate, nn :)02:58
AviatrixieI need to go now. Thanks for the input, pashaw and averyone :)02:58
skonAmaranth: Office02:58
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jhenndjm62: k thank02:58
Amaranthskon: Does ~/.local/share/desktop-directories/ have anything in it?02:59
tellimapokryphos, thanks, at least i was able to get it to display the rating warning at the very beginning for like half a second before it encountered an error :)02:59
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tellimsophtpaw, yes i did that02:59
sophtpawand?02:59
Amaranthskon: That's a path, ~ is /home/<user>/02:59
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Deterministjohn, this is the file to download from the nvidia site: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7667/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run02:59
apokryphostellim: is it working now with those ubotu instructions?02:59
tellimsociopath, and.... libdvdcss2 is not there....02:59
foampeacehttp://insectwar.free.fr/02:59
tellimapokryphos, no02:59
skonAmaranth: yes it has Education.directory and Office.directory02:59
tellimapokryphos, but getting closer :)02:59
sophtpawtellim: synaptic/settings/repositories - tick it all and update02:59
skonI rename those?02:59
apokryphostellim: ok, directly get the deb from giannaros.orb/buntu/breezy/i386 then03:00
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sudo_smartasshow do i manage all my apt-get applications and integrate them into my applications menu?03:00
Amaranthskon: Open gedit and drag the Office.directory file on to the gedit window03:00
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apokryphostellim: *.org03:00
sudo_smartassie. WINE03:00
Amaranthsudo_smartass: Please change your nick.03:00
foampeacegames games games!03:00
sophtpawtellim: then search libdvdcss2 mark and apply for installation - done03:00
tellimsophtpaw, im a command line kinda guy, all repos enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list03:00
existanceI'm trying to make the menu.list for GRUB, but I know how to figure out what kernel I have or what the video= should be03:01
sophtpawtellim: fair enough. I'm just telling you the idiot way (me) way of doing it - it works03:01
Amaranthexistance: When you install a kernel it sets up the menu.list for you.03:01
johnchrist! i get an error Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file when trying to access synaptics03:01
apokryphostellim: proper link: http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/breezy/i386/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu0_i386.deb03:01
nurfeexistance: uname -a gives you the kernel first :)03:01
nurfe*version03:01
tellimapokryphos, thank you will wget03:02
Deterministjohn, perhaps you have another session of synaptic running03:02
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tellimsociopath, nothing idiot about it03:02
existanceAmaranth, yes I know.  I reinstalled XP recently and it wiped grub03:02
johnDeterminist, nope, all closed03:02
Amaranth!grub03:02
ubotufrom memory, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting03:02
existancegratzi03:02
pl_iceguys my xmms crashes, when i try install wma plugin or itouch any help with it?03:02
sophtpawAmaranth: is that the official version then, not to send people to the ubuntuguide? in the forums everyone gets directed there as a first line of problem solving03:02
nekostararg03:02
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nekostardoes grub normally clench up when installing on a laptop?03:02
skonAmaranth: okay so I can change that file....by the way are there supposed to be dozens of lines in different languages? or did i install some langauge pack by mistake?03:02
nekostarits been frozen for a few minutes..03:02
apokryphossophtpaw: yes, don't direct them there please03:02
ssstormynekostar, it did that to me too03:03
Amaranthsophtpaw: The people on the forums can do what they want, we've had too many users with unexplainable problems caused by ubuntuguide that came here for help.03:03
Amaranthsophtpaw: So no ubuntuguide here.03:03
ssstormynekostar, but it started working a few installs later.  I must have changed a fwe things03:03
Deterministjohn, no idea there, try a reboot, perhaps it's some system fart because of the changes you've made... btw, the system might not boot into X if you do that :P03:03
Amaranthskon: It's supposed to be like that.03:03
skonk thanks for oyur help03:04
johnwhen wanting to reboot I get an Xauthority not writable and it closes out to a terminal?03:04
jhenndoes anyone have yahoo messenger?03:04
Amaranthskon: I was having you open this file for debugging, actually. :)03:04
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tellimapokryphos, that libdvdcss2 doesnt give me the mpaa rating warning like the other one does..... this is all so odd03:04
Amaranthskon: But you can just change the name in there too.03:04
sophtpawAmaranth: someone would do well then to tell the moderators at the forums too. Because i almost thought it was official03:04
Amaranthskon: Look for 'Name='03:04
skonAmaranth: all I had to do was change the name of the file03:04
sudo_smartasswhere can i find the "wine" program that my apt-get downloaded/installed?03:04
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nekostarssstormy, gnome is still faster than xp right?03:04
nekostarhow big is the default install?03:04
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Amaranthsudo_smartass: Change your nick and I'll tell you.03:04
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Amaranthnekostar: You probably need a 4GB drive for the installation but it only takes about 2GB.03:05
ssstormynekostar, sometimes.  XP really is nice sometimes, but gnome dosn't freeze03:05
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nekostarouch03:05
Epixfinish him!03:05
nekostarits only a 4.5gig hdd total03:05
skonnice03:05
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maskdbannality03:05
nekostari wanna keep ubuntu under a gig03:05
AmaranthHe left.03:05
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Epixah.03:06
apokryphosnekostar: default install is 1.8 gigs03:06
Epixwell, he finished himself.03:06
ssstormynekostar, to do that ...03:06
nekostarholy ouch03:06
steven_can anyone tell me of an audio file converter, IE flac to Mp3 with a gui, for ubuntu ?03:06
Epixnekostar: you can try the server install03:06
nekostarserver isntall + windowmaker then03:06
j2daoshok amar... wheres it at? ~/.wine?03:06
apokryphosnekostar: worth trying03:06
johnok all im gonna reinstall, my head is done in now03:06
maskdim so happy, the version of vlc with dapper is much better than the one included with breezy03:06
Epixnekostar: basicly, it installs a very simple system and you install the rest of the packages.03:06
johnthanks for all your help guys03:06
Amaranthj2daosh: /usr/bin/wine is the thing you run03:07
ssstormysteve__, try audacity03:07
johngonna install fresh then follow the guide for the nvidia site drivers03:07
apokryphosmaskd: funny, it wasn't installing at all yesterday.03:07
Amaranthj2daosh: The config stuff is in ~/.wine/03:07
ssstormysteve__, sorry03:07
Epixnekostar: not the best thing for newbies, but I dont know how much experance you have...03:07
ssstormysteven_, try audacity03:07
Deterministjohn, np mate, good luck, give me a holler once you do and need help with the driver mate03:07
steven_ssstormy, that encodes?03:07
maskdapokryphos, really?03:07
johnDeterminist, you bet! he he03:07
nekostarive got enough to do that much Epix03:07
apokryphosmaskd: down to dbus transition, yes. I should take a look into it actually.03:07
maskdvlc 0.8.4?03:07
ssstormysteven_, it's actually an audio editor03:07
ssstormyjust import the file03:07
Determinist<--- back to philosophy paper03:07
ssstormyand save it in your new format03:07
steven_ok ssstormy03:07
apokryphosmaskd: yup03:07
Epixanyway, anyone have a clue why gparted wont work? I resize, reboot and nothing changed! This is on Ubuntu 5.10 Live03:08
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ssstormyalthough it does need extensions to do flac and mp303:08
ssstormybut it's  pretty easy03:08
maskdapokryphos: it installed without a hitch for me03:08
mark_i need help with rescue03:08
sophtpawssstormy: does audacity also deal with avi files ?03:08
ssstormyEpix, are you sure you were partitioning your disk and not the RAM drive/03:08
ssstormysophtpaw, no just audio03:08
mark_its asking me which device to mount as a root file system03:08
ssstormysophtpaw, try mencoder03:08
sophtpawthx03:08
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Epixnekostar: then it might be worth a shot. you can choose a lot of custom settings!03:08
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ssstormysophtpaw, you might have to add some custom repositires03:08
tjb13hey guys, do any of you know how to get sleep working03:09
Epixssstormy: heh, i dont think so, but ill check!03:09
mark_can anyone help me03:09
nekostarEpix, im intending to make a portable anime viewing machine heh03:09
nekostar+ watching dvd's and htats it03:09
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sophtpawssstormy: ok,03:09
Epixssstormy: no, /dev/hda03:09
ssstormysophtpaw, mencoder is an extension of mplayer, so you will need to look in universe/multiverse and outside03:09
nekostarits only 600mhz celeron 128MB ram dell insperion 400003:09
nekostar5gig hdd or so03:09
steven_ssstormy, where can i get the file audacity needs to save as mp3, lame encoder or something? then i need to locate the .so file03:09
ssstormyEpix, couldn't tell ya then03:09
ssstormyit should give you some message03:10
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chance2105_Ok.  So I did the first stage of installation.  Rebooted.  The computer shows "Installing packages" and "Preparing for installtion..." but is hanging at 0%.  I can VT-Switch and login as the user I set up, but the installation isn't going anywhere.  What can I do to get the installation going again?03:10
johnso how does one install a deb file?03:10
nekostarand i need to get a serial cable so i can connect it to one of my desktops >.<03:10
mark_can anyone help me understand why disk 0 shows parts 1, 2, 3 and 503:10
Epixnekostar: then all you really need is base system + xorg + some kind of wm + video player + (legit copies) of movies!03:10
ssstormyif not, search in synaptic for something like "lib mp3"03:10
nekostarunless... i could get a usb cable with a doodad03:10
Deterministjohn, sudo dpkg -i <file>03:10
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ssstormyjohn, dpkg -i blah03:10
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nekostarEpix, dvd's yeah :)03:10
ssstormymark_, it has a extended partition03:10
nekostarive got a few hundred... i should really buy less i suppose heh03:10
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skonOkay I have some programs that show up in the menu editor as visible, but they do not show up in the menus, anyone know why?03:11
apokryphosmaskd: hm, vlc there seems to depend on libdbus-1-1 (but >0.5) for some reason03:11
mark_okies i got a sh-3.00#03:11
mark_now what03:11
Epixnekostar: the only problem I can see is in the ram, but you shouldnt have any issues with playing movies. 600mhz is enough.03:11
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ssstormyskon, happened to me too, no clue03:11
leather_n_luvdoes anyone know how to export a setting from a *.conf file to a variable in a script?03:11
sophtpawssstormy: there's a choice of mencoders: custom/586/k6/k7 they all seems to do the same thing? any recommendations?03:11
j2daoshok... got another question03:11
steven_ssstormy, i can't find the lame mp3 encoder in apt-cache search03:11
mark_it doesn't appear to prompting me anymore03:11
nekostarEpix, probably too slow to play my sweet .mkv's though :/03:11
ssstormysophtpaw, what processor do you have?03:11
sophtpawerrr....03:11
maskdapokryphos, does it work if you apt-get it?03:12
ssstormysteven_, apt-cache is what you already downloaded03:12
mark_so now what do i do03:12
Epixnekostar: worth a shot :P03:12
steven_ssstormy, how fo i find the lame mp3 encoder then?03:12
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sophtpawssstormy: 86?03:12
apokryphosmaskd: nope, depends on a much later version of libdbus-1-103:12
ssstormysophtpaw, go to command line and do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" or whatever th efilename is03:12
steven_ssstormy, it says i have it..03:12
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maskdwoah, for some reason i have a lot of cdroms in my /media/ folder03:12
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ssstormysteven_, you have it?03:12
j2daoshin windows systems there is a program called dameon tools... it allows you to mount a virtual drive (cd-rom) and mount .iso files for use without actually being a cd... is there a similiar program in linux?03:12
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Epixssstormy: no, apt-cache search searches all software in the source.03:12
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j2daoshand if so... what is the name and what repo will i find it in???03:13
steven_ssstormy, yea but audacity wants03:13
Razor-Xj2daosh: you need no program to do that03:13
ssstormyEpix oops my bad03:13
steven_libmp3lame.so03:13
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nekostarheh03:13
pl_icej2daosh u don't have to have one, u just mount it with -o loop03:13
mark_hmmm03:13
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Razor-Xj2daosh: most UNIXes mount by default03:13
mark_how come it says it can't find the device to mount to03:13
maskdapokryphos, pretty strange then why mine worked, i've pretty much only let it auto update to the latest of everything03:13
dabaR!me accepts towellie's invitation03:13
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, dabaR03:13
ssstormysteven_, so look and see if that file, or one with near- identical name is in /lib or /usr/lib03:13
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j2daoshyeah but im looking for a virtual one...03:13
maskdapokryphos, and fresh installed with dapper flight 2 iso03:13
steven_ssstormy, how do i find liblame.so ?03:13
j2daoshbasically emulating a cd-rom03:13
apokryphosmaskd: what version of libdbus-1-1 do you have?03:13
leather_n_luv!sed03:13
ubotuleather_n_luv: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!03:13
leather_n_luvlol03:14
maskdapokryphos, how do i check?03:14
apokryphosmaskd: ah, that's why. You're running on a different dapper then -- I presumed you were on today's03:14
ssstormysteven_,  just look for it in the /lib or /usr/lib dir03:14
sophtpawssstormy: says, 'cpu family' 603:14
mark_`any ideas anyone.... i'm really stuck03:14
Epixoh winrar, why must you be so slow... Its been 23 min, and my archive is still extracting...03:14
mark_i've tried a number of methods to reinstall grub03:14
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j2daoshso .iso's can be played from a file on my harddrive instead of having to burn it to a disk first and then playing it03:14
ssstormysophtpaw, look at model name03:14
mark_and keep getting the same errors03:14
j2daosham i making any sense?03:14
pl_icej2daosh but u can just mount the cd/iso etc in a foler and point a game etc to it...03:14
mark_i know that both windows and ubuntu are on hde03:15
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pashawj2daosh, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/563903:15
mark_but when i try to install grub there it tells me it can't find it03:15
sophtpawssstormy: it is an  Athlone AMD XP 2800+ (is that what you mean?)03:15
ovehis it possible for thunderbird to download all the mails on the gmail account?03:15
tjb13nobody here knows how to get sleep working on a thinkpad03:15
slideok wtf, gam_server is using 950megs of Virtual Memory03:15
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maskdapokryphos, do you have any idea on how to fix the prob?03:15
tjb13I'm shootin blanks here03:15
Razor-Xj2daosh: you know what mount does, right?03:15
chance2105_oveh: Yup.03:15
ssstormysophtpaw, ok good.  you'll wanna remeber that for future.  you have a k7 processor03:16
steven_ssstormy, how do i search a folder03:16
j2daoshpl_ice, ur saying if i go into my fstab and add an entry that points to the .iso it will automagically consider it a mounted device?03:16
ovehchance2105_: how? :-)03:16
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sophtpawssstormy: ok, so mencoder k7 for me03:16
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dabaRmark_: what exactly are you doing? from the beginning...03:16
ssstormysteven_, the easy way is open a terminal and type "ls /usr/lib/"03:16
steven_ssstormy, k03:16
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ssstormysteven_, and begin typing the name of what you want03:16
pl_icej2daosh yeh, u can just type eg. mount /file.iso  /a  -o loop it's in the man,03:16
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ssstormysteven_, and then hit tab a few times03:16
apokryphosmaskd: yup, it's not a problem to get around. Just was curious that it was smooth for you (but we're running different dapper).03:16
ssstormyit will list all that match that name start03:16
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sikSo.. yeah... I'm a bit of a newbie and my current linux guru is unavailable. I just got a NexStar external hd enclosure and gan't get it to read or mount. can anyone help with this?03:17
j2daoshinteresting...03:17
mark_thanks dabaR03:17
Dreamgliderwhat is a easy diskpartioning tool for ubuntu03:17
chance2105_oveh:  http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12103\03:17
j2daoshill have to take a look at that03:17
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ssstormysteven_, btw I mean before you hit enter, start the name of what you want03:17
chance2105_oveh:  err, omit the last " \ "03:17
MachineScrewany one know how to make a DVD out of an Xvid03:17
sophtpawssstormy: k6 is the same but more stable i think i'm getting the impression. Also says it is for AMD03:17
mark_i am desperately trying to reinstall grub after reinstalling windows03:17
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jcsmithhi all03:17
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ssstormysophtpaw, well k7 is a link to k6 right now in that thing03:17
maskdhi jcsmith03:17
mark_can you help me dabaR ?03:17
MachineScrewany one03:18
ssstormysophtpaw, but k7 IS a little dif, so remember that and always use k7 versions for your computer03:18
skonSo nobody knows why half of my programs don't show up  in the menu even though they are enabled in the menu editor?03:18
jcsmithI'm trying to get TV out working properly with an NVIDIA FX5200 Graphis card and i can get the picture displaying on the television, some really annoying lines scroll up the screen03:18
jcsmithany ideas?03:18
nekostardarn03:18
mark_i have reviewed all of the tutorials to no avail03:18
MachineScrewany one know how to make a DVD out of an Xvid03:18
ssstormyjcsmith, that has to do with the refresh rate03:18
nekostari get a no compatable kernel error on instal :/03:18
dabaRmark_: have you followed the wiki instructions? I have not done that yet. Never installed windows after I got Ubuntu...03:18
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ovehchance2105_: i get tbird to download new messages, but it is alot of old emails on the account that i would like inside tbird03:18
mark_yes i have dabaR03:18
ssstormymark_, you can always give lilo a shot03:18
mark_lilo?03:19
steven_ssstormy, i'm sure i dont have it03:19
mark_is it another boot client like grub?03:19
MachineScrewcan k3b do it03:19
ssstormysteven_, ok lemme look a sec03:19
chance2105_oveh:  The answer to your question is on that link.  Click "Other".03:19
ssstormymark_, yup.  The original03:19
mark_i liked grub03:19
mark_it worked fine03:19
chillywillyis bind9 on the breezy install CD?03:19
chance2105_oveh:  Then click "enabling POP in Gmail"03:19
mark_its just that windows pooped as per usual03:20
GTroyanyone have an idea why my sound is scratchy? from both kaffeine and beep/xmms?03:20
ssstormysteven_, so is mp3 working?03:20
johnim trying to play a dvd in both ogle and okle but when I click on open disc the software crashes and closes03:20
chillywillyapt tells me it cannot find it03:20
mark_and i had to reinstal it03:20
zakhow do i mount a disk image?03:20
johnanyone know why? or can recommend a failsafe dvd player?03:20
sikCan anyone help me get my NexStar external working?03:20
jcsmithssstormy: i've been playing with the HorizSync, Should I try adjust the vertRefresh? Do you have any idea what it should be set to for a US tv?03:20
sophtpawssstormy: if you insist its better i'll remove k6 and install k7. However, won't the update manager do that anyways?03:20
steven_ssstormy, yea i need this for audacity to save files as mp303:20
dabaRmark_: well, you followed the wiki? and you used fdisk to find out what hdX your hard drive is?03:20
megryani am having problems with my bank's login screen03:20
chance2105_oveh:  even better, login to your gmail account and play with the screens shown on the webpage.  It took me all of 30 seconds for figure it out three days ago .. I don't even remember how, it was so easy. :)03:20
ssstormyjcsmith, you'll have to look03:20
mark_i have two installed03:20
ssstormyjcsmith, on the web03:20
ssstormysteven_, oh yeah, forgot what lame was03:21
pl_icemegryan probably they arogant :/03:21
mark_i did fdisk before i reinstalled windows03:21
jcsmithssstormy: yea, i'll ask google, i was just hoping that since you knew that much maybe you knew the rest ;)03:21
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megryanpl_ice hey can you help03:21
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mark_i managed to gain root user access in the proper drive03:21
christidoes ubuntu support Xen?03:21
steven_ssstormy, so how do i get libmp3lame03:21
steven_and it's .so03:21
johnwhat software does everyone use to watch DVD's?03:21
chance2105_john:  totem03:22
ovehchance2105_: okei, thanx :-)03:22
mark_but when i do a grub-install /dev/hde it gives me an error message03:22
ssstormysteven_, well I think the package is liblame003:22
pl_icemegryan seen somwhere that u can emulate IE for problems like that, u using firefox?03:22
johnchance2105_, how do you make totem play dvds?03:22
megryanyes03:22
steven_ssstormy, i got that but i can't find libmp3lame.s003:22
mark_it says it could not find device for /boot03:22
steven_libmp3lame.so03:22
steven_how do i search my whole pc?03:22
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megryani was able to login b4 but i installed tab browser thing and since then i've had problems03:23
ovehchance2105_: Enable POP only for mail that arrives from now on, it worked  :D03:23
ovehchance2105_: enable pop for all mail i mean03:23
mark_when i checked fstab prior to the windows install it did not show a seperate /boot partition03:23
pl_icemegryan give us the address? will c03:23
maskdmm i seem to have locked up the gnome panels, how do you restart them?03:23
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ssstormysteven_, go to synaptic and go to properties of that package.  go to installed files03:24
ssstormysteven_, and find the .so, cause it's name is SLIGHTLY different03:24
megryanyep one sec03:24
dabaRmark_: well, it is obviously not there.03:24
megryanhttp://www.encompasscu.com.au/03:24
GTroyjohn: do you have the codecs installed?03:25
steven_ssstormy, i did search files it was03:25
pl_icelove linux :)03:25
dabaRyou know what hde means? it is 5th ide drive,03:25
steven_libmp3lame.so.003:25
mark_any other ideas03:25
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sikCan anyone help me get my NexStar external hd working?03:25
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dabaRmark_: ya, are you in ubuntu live?03:25
megryannew to ubuntu and it rox03:25
mark_i have a copy of fstab and fdisk i could paste in private if like03:25
dabaRmark_: just chill out for 1.03:25
mark_i'm using ubuntu install03:25
dabaR!paste03:25
uboturumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text03:25
steven_ssstormy, just tried to convert it was all screwed up03:25
mark_just typed rescue at the boot prompt03:25
pl_icejohn u need to decode dvds with libcss library, not codecs03:26
chance2105_john:  I lost my link.  There's a nice page on "restricted formats" somewhere on ubuntu.com.  It lists how to set up dvd playback.03:26
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ssstormysteven_, try playing the input file back from audacity03:26
vy2wuAny ham operators on here?03:26
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chance2105_john:  found it ..   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:26
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Linfani want to update firefox to 1.5 how can i do it? i went to firefox.com and downloaded the file but i dont know how to install it03:27
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pl_iceham? i'm hungry :)03:27
megryani have mplayer plugin for mozilla - downloads the media but no player present..03:27
johnchance2105_, thanks03:27
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dabaRmark_: what? then your grub works or no?03:27
vy2wuoh well03:27
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mark_no03:27
vy2wuThink I will dive out.03:27
dabaRmark_: win rescue mode?03:27
steven_ssstormy, the 2 files for it are /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.003:27
steven_/usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.003:27
mark_no03:27
dabaRpah03:27
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mark_i am using ubuntu install cd03:28
ssstormysteven_, try the .so.0 one03:28
steven_ssstormy, i did, and when i outputted it it was screwed up03:28
Linfanthe led that lets me know my wireless is on is not showing a light anyway to make it work03:28
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sikCan anyone help me get my NexStar external hd working?03:28
mark_typed rescue after after the cd gave me the boot: argument03:28
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dabaRmark_: can you fdisk? can you paste?03:29
mark_nope03:29
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ssstormysteven_, but can audacity play back the file ok?03:29
pl_icesik, is it usb connection?03:29
sikyes03:29
steven_ssstormy, no03:29
sikpl_ice: yes it is03:29
dabaRmark_: how are you following the wiki then?03:29
mark_i have the prompt sh-3.00#03:29
mark_i have a network03:29
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ssstormysteven_, how did you get the audio file to be converted into audacity?03:30
mark_right now i am on another computer03:30
ssstormyand what format was it anyway?03:30
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sophtpawdoes internet explorer run on GNU/Linux os?03:30
pl_icesik and it didn't mount it automatically somwhere?03:30
sikpl_ice: when I check the system disks and /dev it shows as sda03:30
ssstormysophtpaw, if you want to use wine03:30
pl_icesophtpaw yes,03:30
sikhowever it hasn't mounted, and I've no way into it03:30
sophtpawonly with wine?03:30
steven_ssstormy, i selected export as mp303:31
pl_icesophtpaw there is a thread in ubuntuforums.org about it, can't remember more ...03:31
sophtpawpl_ice: ok, i'll search it03:31
pl_icesik just try mountind sda103:31
sorush20guys how do I undo what this command does?03:31
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steven_ssstormy, do i need to do anything else after i say export as?03:32
sikpl_ice: there isn't sda1, just sda... and I did try to mount it03:32
j2daoshok... that mount /file.iso /a -o loop didn't work03:32
sophtpawssstormy: you're saying i'd install wine first and then i can simply download IE and run it as normal?03:32
SEJeffsorush20, What command?03:32
steven_the file is saving as like 100kb also.. so..03:32
root___anyone willing to help me get my video card working?  I just installed Breezy and it freezes with a grey screen as soon as it starts xorg.03:32
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nix4mewhy would anyone want to use ie03:32
greenwomlo03:32
regplusIs firestarte enabled by default?03:32
sorush20   echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules03:32
nix4meespecially on linux03:32
ssstormysteven_, if the original audio file can't play back successfully in audacity you know you ahve a problem03:32
SEJeffnix4me, Web design testing03:32
sorush20SEJeff: this command    echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules03:33
dabaRroot___: dont do IRC as root, come back as another user.03:33
steven_ssstormy, the original can03:33
nix4meahh03:33
ssstormysophtpaw, well you have it install it03:33
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skonAnyone know how to create custom themes in Gnome? Actually picking colors and stuff?03:33
ssstormysteven_, that's odd. I don't know what's wrong...03:33
steven_ssstormy, actually no it can03:33
steven_t03:33
pl_icesik throw dmesg just after u plug in the hdd will tell u a lot03:33
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chance2105_What's a good Gnome-ish CPU userspace frequency adjustment program?03:33
SEJeffsorush20, You added fglrx to the end of /etc/modules03:33
SEJeffsorush20, That is a very odd way to do it03:33
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greenwomproblem, can't format a usb drive.  It shows as write protected but doesn't have a switch  what should I use03:33
ssstormysteven_, that would be why03:33
ssstormysteven_, how'd you add it?03:33
sophtpawnix4me: i don't know about anyone. In my case to be able to access my business account only, IE is the only one on which allows me to, while they are working on other browsers03:33
sorush20SEJeff: well its what is used int official ubuntu wiki03:34
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grant_can anyone help me with my vid card?  Xorg freezes as soon as it loads on a fresh install of breezy.  Its a radeon 925003:34
pl_icesik and then lsusb,03:34
SEJeffsorush20, sudo echo "fglrx" >> /etc/modules is much easier03:34
ssstormysteven_, proper way is Projects->Import Audio03:34
chance2105_The Gnome panel-applet seems only to monitor the frequency, not adjust it. :/03:34
sorush20SEJeff: will it make any difference in it action and loading/03:34
SEJeffsorush20, The official wiki is full of things that will break your system :)     sudo gedit /etc/modules... delete the last line and then save it03:34
SEJeffsorush20, no03:34
nix4mesophtpaw k03:34
sorush20SEJeff: thanks.03:34
SEJeffsorush20, That is just a rather stupid way to do it03:34
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ockertomhi peeps just installed this distro then did a instal for skype but it seems to be missing libsdtc++.5?03:35
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existanceis there a command to tell me what version kernel I am running?03:35
sikpl_ice: as I stated earlier, I'm a bit of a newbie and I understand none of what it's saying03:35
greenwomany know a low level format utility for USB drives?03:35
psusiexistance, uname -a03:36
grant_anyone know how to get a radeon 9250 to work with xorg?  It freezes as soon as it starts with the ati, radeon or fglrx drivers03:36
dabaRexistance: no, you can't know.03:36
dragonbyteexistance: cat /proc/version03:36
aconbereafter stage 1 of installation is ubuntu actualy installed?03:36
aconberethat is could you reboot and get a gnome desktop?03:36
slideI have 3 harddrives, a 300GB, 150GB and a 100GB. Is there anyway to combine them all to act as one drive?03:36
pl_icepc on fire ! back in sec03:36
Sepheebearslide: use LVM03:36
dragonbyteslide: raid03:36
ssstormyaconbere, the full install is done after about 20 min after reboot03:36
psusigreenwom, "low level format" has not really existed outside the factory for a good 10-15 years... you can use mkfs.fat to format it for fat03:36
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grant_slide:  yes, logical volume management.  But if one drive fails you'll lose everything03:36
SEJeffgrant_, Likely a hardware problem... I am running a 9250 right now03:37
slideLVM is better/easier then raid?03:37
mark_dabaR, i've been following that turtorial to a t03:37
christislide: depends03:37
ssstormyaconbere, it copies over the full, complicate system in the form of packages, which it unpacks and instlals after you reboot03:37
SEJeffslide, Totally different thing03:37
Sepheebearlvm is not raid03:37
psusislide, yes... you can use LVM... but if one drive dies, you loose ALL the data03:37
mark_i get to the end and get the error message03:37
christislide: LVM has some cool stuff indeed03:37
steven_OMFG03:37
dabaRmark_: go into a live Ubuntu already.03:37
steven_ssstormy, still wont work man03:37
slidegrant_, and by fail, do you mean fail totally or what if it just starts to hiccup for a bit and then works again?03:37
mark_already tried that03:37
Sepheebearyou dont necessarily lose all your data03:37
mark_but i'll try again03:38
steven_ssstormy, does audacity support flac?03:38
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dabaRmark_: don't do it!03:38
grant_slide:  if a hdd fails with lvm and they are all merged together you won't be able to use any of them03:38
pl_icesik plug in the hd and then in console type : dmesg  shows all errors etc, should find the hd03:38
mark_why03:38
mark_too late03:38
grant_SEJeff:  the card works fine under windows03:38
steven_ssstormy, xmms plays the file fine, but audacity doesn't03:38
mark_i already rebooted03:38
FaithfulHey... samba on breezy is way behind and has issues with domain logins03:38
slidegrant_, yea, but what if it just fails for a bit and then comes back, will they all be ok?03:38
psusislide, possibly03:39
regplusIs FIRESTARTE FIREWALL installed by default?03:39
chance2105_Why does gnome-applets replace gnome-cpufreq-applet?  The cpufreq applet included with gnome-applets does not let you _set_ the frequency, just monitor it ...03:39
j2daoshok how can i either mount a file so a program thinks its a disc... or change where the program looks for the file?03:39
grant_slide:  i dont know...probably if you didn't try to write to them or anything03:39
pl_iceguys is there a package for ubuntu wallpaper tray (wp_tray) ? cant find it03:39
Faithfulsamba 3.0.14 vs 3.0.2103:39
sikpl_ice: something about unknown key codes *shrug*03:39
Linfanwhat do i need in order to have my wireless need working on my laptop03:39
psusiregplus, no03:39
j2daoshregplus... no03:39
Faithfuldebian is upto samba 3.0.20-b403:39
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grant_SEJeff:  which vid drivers are you using on the 9250?03:39
aconbereif stage 2 fails, can you just reboot and try again?03:39
pl_icesik, u got msofr keyborad :/ got the same errors, but should say that it found usb etc03:39
Faithfulwell scrub my box and lose my work I guess.03:40
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ssstormysteven_, hmm... you could try redownloading and installing audacity and liblame03:40
ssstormyremove them completely first03:40
ssstormyalso, checkthe original file03:40
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ssstormytry playing it in xmms or totem03:40
pl_ice*microsfot03:40
ssstormywhat fomat is it?03:40
mark_brb need a smoke03:41
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j2daoshahh... a smoke03:41
j2daoshi need one too03:41
j2daoshbrb03:41
sikpl_ice: k. well it says it found it attached and scanned the hdd03:41
llama32anyone? how to mount loop device? mount says it cant find /dev/loop*03:41
pl_icesik type lsusb03:41
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pl_icellama32 -o loop03:42
pl_iceat end03:42
sikpl_ice: and it shows there's a connection to a usb port being used03:42
llama32pl_ice: ive got that, it says cant find /dev/loop* though03:42
cafuegollama32: muount -t <type> -o loop <file> <mountpoint>03:42
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cafuegollama32: Run it as root, then the 'loop' module should auto-load.03:42
Shadyman_What's up, all?03:43
llama32cafuego: should it work with sudo or should i open a shell as root?03:43
cafuegollama32: sudo is fine03:43
pl_icellama32 not sure put all line what u typing03:43
Shadyman_Fuego!03:43
llama32cafuego: its not working03:43
cafuegollama32: Did you compile your own kernel?03:43
pl_icesik so ur hd is there :) now mount it , smomehow ...03:43
llama32sudo mount -o loop boot.img disk/03:43
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llama32mount: could not find any device /dev/loop#03:43
llama32cafuego: nup03:44
sikpl_ice: lol... the somehow is the thing :D03:44
cafuegollama32: 'sudo modprobe loop'03:44
pl_icesudo mount boot.imp /disk -o loop try this03:44
sikI knew it was there, I'd seen it already. just the working part isn't and I haven't been able to get it mounted yet :/03:44
ShadymanI'm stuck between two worlds.03:44
llama32cafuego: gave nothing03:44
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cafuegollama32: that's good. Now try again.03:44
ShadymanFedora and Ubuntu, back and forth. I have to admit, Ubuntu is alluring.03:44
llama32cafuego: ahh, thanks :)03:45
pl_icesik u have to find which device is under ...03:45
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llama32cafuego: how do i make i load automatically?03:45
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sikpl_ice: it's labeled as sda, and I saw it in /dev03:45
sikbut when I try mounting I'm getting the fstab and mtab error03:45
cafuegollama32: add it to /etc/modules03:46
pl_icesik , i think i should have a number.. what it says when u try to mount it?03:46
llama32thanks cafuego03:46
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Unitywhich metapackage will isntall libstdc++.so.5 for me?03:47
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sikpl_ice: mount: can't find sda in etc/fstab or etc/mtab03:47
jcsmithssstormy: any other ideas, everyhing i have found says the refresh rate is correct03:47
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ShadymanSo Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with the Kubuntu_desktop installed, right?03:47
ShadymanOr is there more than that.03:47
tipnmoi recently installled the ati drivers from the repositories... how can i check to see if i did it right03:48
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pl_icesik try this: sudo mount /dev/sda  /folder_dest03:48
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sikpl_ice: mount: you must specify the filesystem type03:48
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Unitypl_ice, sorry to butt in, but don't you need to specify the partition?03:49
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pl_iceUnity should find it easily03:49
pl_iceops ... i mean automatically03:49
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pl_icesik what partition is hd?03:50
ssstormyjcsmith, nope... you can look for other common values, incase you have a weird TV03:50
sikummm...03:50
ssstormyalso, check the physical connection03:50
sikthere's only one partition on it that I know of03:50
pl_icei mean the file system03:50
sorush20how do I load modules?03:50
sorush20what is the command for it?03:51
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root___I'm attempting to reinstall grub through a gentoo livecd disk, i've already chrooted into the partition (root/boot are one), but when i run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hde it says it isn't a block device03:51
pl_icemodprobe module_name03:51
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llama32when i try to unmount something, and it is busy, yet i have nothing using it, how do i unmount it?03:51
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sikpl_ice: hda1 swap partition03:51
sikpl_ice: that's the filesystem03:51
sethkllama32, you have to find out why it is busy03:51
pl_icellama32 umount -l try with root if it won't work03:51
jdubexistance: best to not IRC as root - jump out and run your client again as your normal user03:51
sethkllama32, probably a shell has its current directory there03:51
sikpl_ice: or I think... hate being a newbie T_T03:52
existancejdub, heh, not sure how to do that from a livecd...03:52
Wilfhttp://www.simplyrender.com/Files/xorg will that xorg.conf work with my setup if i change the obvious settings?03:52
llama32sethk: nup, nothing is using it03:52
pl_icesik  the external hard drive, is it ntfs or fat 32 etc..03:52
sethkllama32, the o/s disagrees.  In a case like this, it is almost always the human who is wrong03:52
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nitinshantharamhey guys any help on mod_rewrite? i want to map http://somewhere.com/page/home to http://somewhere.com/index.php?t=page&q=home i currently have: RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/page/(.*)  and   RewriteRule ^/page/(.*) index.php?t=page&q=$103:52
Unitysethk, sometimes nautilus holds onto the mounted stuff03:52
existanceI'm attempting to reinstall grub through a gentoo livecd disk, i've already chrooted into the partition (root/boot are one), but when i run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hde it says it isn't a block device03:52
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sethkUnity, yes, that's actually a shell current directory03:52
sethkUnity, or perhaps just having the directory open, but a good suggestion either way03:53
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sikpl_ice: I haven't done anything to it. I just got the enclosure today and put my hd in right out o f the box >.>03:53
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pl_icesik , then probably why it's not mountin it couse no file system is on it :)03:53
sikpl_ice: oh.... umm... how do I fix that? (stupid nub face)03:53
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Unitysethk; i usually have success with `sudo killall nautilus` then `sudo umount blah` one sec later since nautilus bounces back03:54
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jcsmithssstormy: I've tried several values and 60 is the only one that X will even start with03:54
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pl_icesik , better read about it on the forum etc. u should use fdisk or so, read manual before!!!!03:54
sethkUnity, ok.  you an do this, to avoid having to type if fast:   sudo kill nautilus; sudo umount blah03:54
durad_how do I check IP via console?03:54
sikgood point.. thanks!03:55
sethkUnity, on the same line, that is03:55
sethkdurad_, ifconfig03:55
Shadymandurad_: ifconfig03:55
sethkdurad_, if it isn't in the path, /sbin/ifconfig03:55
mister_robotosethk: you might be able to find the process holding onto it using 'lsof'03:55
ssstormyjcsmith, what about the values output to the TV?03:55
arai mounted my 2nd hard drive and it was working perfectly, i restarted ubuntu and it's not finding my hard again , do i have to mount it everytime i shut the pc down?03:55
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ssstormyare they automatically the same as your monitor's refresh rate?03:55
Daniellehi, i'm brand new to LInux. kcontrol broke my system fonts, they look really bad now, i enabled  anti-anlising and subpixel hinting too with kcontrol, didn't like it so disabled it again, but the fonts didn't go back. is there a back up file of the old settings i can use. can someone help me? i use Ubuntu.03:55
sethkmister_roboto, yes, but I'm not the one asking, I was answering.  :)  let's see, who was asking?  llama3203:55
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pl_iceara yes, put that into /etc/fstab to auto mount it03:56
mister_robotosethk: ahhh :)03:56
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ssstormyDanielle, try completely removing the font packages03:56
j2daoshi got nothing... how am i supposed to install unreal from my iso file? its asking for the install cd which is probably too scratched to work and i dont know how to use the linux cd burner or even where to get one... assuming linux even recognizes my burner as a burner03:56
Unitysethk i know but i usually have the umount in the history anyway...ut thx03:56
ssstormyDanielle, and then reinstall them03:56
Daniellehow do i do that?03:56
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ssstormywell because you probably can't remove them well in X03:57
Danielledo you think i can uninstall kcontrol?03:57
arapl_ice, i'm pretty new to linux , can you tell me how?03:57
ssstormyDanielle, that probably won't help03:57
pl_ice!iso03:57
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto03:57
Madpilotj2daosh: burning ISOs is easy - find them in your file manager, right-click on them, and select "Burn To Disc" - done03:57
Danielleoh :(03:57
durad__thanks03:57
slideOk, so does anyone know of a LVM howto? I want to combine 2 drives into 103:57
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ssstormydo a ctl+alt+F2, and log in03:57
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ssstormythen do ps ax03:58
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ssstormyand kill everything to do with X03:58
pl_iceara try ubuntuforums.org heaps of it there, and man fstab, i got to go :)03:58
mister_robotoslide: google for "lvm howto" shows lots of stuff, oddly enough!03:58
ssstormywith kill _procces-id_03:58
Daniellehow do i uninstall my font packages? i just spent 2/3 days getting the fonts right for Opera so i don't want to break that too03:58
j2daoshok if i burn an iso to dvd so i dont have to waste 6 cd's on unreal... will it still recognize it?03:58
ssstormy(use shift+pageup/down to scrooll)03:58
DigitalSigcan someones pls tell me how i can install a .rpm package03:58
snowowlDanielle there is a good HowTo in the Ubuntu Documentation on installing some the Microsoft Font package - Perhaps you could give that a look see too.03:58
ssstormyDanielle, ooh yikes03:58
ssstormywell03:58
j2daoshor is there no way around burning the 6 dics03:59
ssstormyyou use apt-get or dpkg to remove packages03:59
skonHow do I install a new theme I just downloaded?03:59
pgleedigitalsig: convert it to a .deb file with the alien package03:59
slidemisfit_toy, actually, NOT.... most are way outdated (years old), or in other languages, or simply suck. ty, come again.03:59
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ilba7rdigitalsig you will most probably find a deb file for your package but alien is what you are looking for03:59
pl_iceDigitalSig dpkg -i package03:59
Shadymanj2daosh: You've got 6 ISO files, right?03:59
MadpilotDanielle: you're running Gnome?03:59
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EpixDanielle: man apt-get03:59
j2daoshno... i combined them into one big 3.6 gig file04:00
Shadymanj2daosh: Oh.04:00
j2daosheasier to manage when im backing everything up to external harddrive04:00
mister_robotoslide: ummm... u don't have to be an asshole when someone just trying to help04:00
MadpilotDanielle: assuming you are, go System menu --> Prefs --> Font and pick different system fonts for Gnome (or reset them, either way...)04:00
pgleeis it bad to get a bunch of "differ in signedness" warnings in a 2.6.10 kernel compile?04:00
j2daoshwhen i unarchive it it is back in 6 disc form04:00
Daniellei did a whole thread of 14 posts with just me in it. :D i already have the MS fonts installed should uninstall EVERY font then reinstall? yes gnome i'll have a look at apt get too but i know how to uninstall i'm just not sure what to uninstall04:00
EpixDanielle: or, if you are using Ubuntu (not Kubutu), try the Synaptic package manager. Find it on one of the menus on your desktop04:00
DanielleMS fonts04:01
j2daoshwhy?04:01
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Daniellei'm using Ubuntu ;)04:01
ssstormyEpix, one problem04:01
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ilba7rdanielle msttcorefonts is the package you are looking for04:01
slidemisfit_toy, look in the mirror please, the 'oddly enough' was rude imo04:01
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mister_robotoslide: it's pretty obvious you didn't even try to search though because there is a LOT of info on LVM findable on google, in modern wikis04:01
ssstormywould it get screwed because the fonts are being removed04:01
DanielleOK thanks i'll do it now.04:01
ssstormy?04:01
Epixssstormy: yeus?04:01
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j2daoshshady... what was your idea concerning the 6 discs?04:02
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guest_Is there a way to recover from a "sudo rm -r /*" without reinstalling?04:02
HrdwrBoBhahahaha04:02
HrdwrBoB... yes04:02
lucasdis there any chance to provide beep-media-player-X at ubuntu repositories?04:02
HrdwrBoB.. restore from backup04:02
HrdwrBoBoh, you don't have a backup?04:02
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ssstormyguest_, no because you just deleted the whole freaking system04:02
R0bNychow can 1 get the latest kernel while using breezy04:02
aracan someone tell me how can i put a command into /etc/fstab please?04:03
dvtoolHow to I get admin rights in terminal?04:03
y_o_uhi, hope everyone is well. need help please. i am trying to install a Belkin 7000 wireless PCI card onto kubuntu. after installing ndiswrapper and walking through the wiki guide install, i run into an error with it detecting the driver and device (even though I am using the exact same card and driver used in the howto). i am stumped, need some help. please dont make me grovel.04:03
ssstormyR0bNyc, add the universe and multiverse in synaptic04:03
HrdwrBoB!suso04:03
ubotuHrdwrBoB: Are you smoking crack?04:03
HrdwrBoB!sudo04:03
ssstormyand just search kernel04:03
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HrdwrBoB!tell dvtool about sudo04:03
j2daoshara sudo04:03
j2daoshdvtool i mean04:03
Daniellebefore i uninstall the fonts i just want to say that it's not internet -Opera probelms i have but desktop problems. so the uninstall Install MS fonts should fix that?04:03
R0bNycssstormy, im on breezy and the universe and multiverse is added04:03
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guest_ssstormy: I cntrl-c it while it was doin /dev, so I have everything alphabetically from dev down, including my /home04:03
j2daoshara sudo vi /etc/fstab04:03
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ssstormyR0bNyc, just search for kernel04:04
j2daoshthen type your params04:04
araj2daosh, that's the complete command?04:04
ssstormyguest_, well lesse04:04
MadpilotDanielle: maybe - you shouldn't even need the MS fonts to get good display fonts in Ubuntu...04:04
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ssstormyyou need /boot /bin and /debbootstrap04:04
j2daoshara, yes..it will load fstab into vi and you can manually edit the fstab04:04
dvtoolthanks!!!!!!04:05
Daniellethe probelm was i use kcontrol to enable subpixel hinting and anti-anlising but it looked really pixelated so i deisable it but it stayed the same04:05
ssstormyguest_, reinstalling oyur kernel package, and reinstlaling the boot manager will fix /boot04:05
y_o_uanyone, help with a wireless card driver, please?04:05
ssstormybut you have to do a mkdir /boot04:05
lucasdcan somebody tell if there's any plans to provide beep-media-player-X at ubuntu repositories?04:05
dvtoolcan anybody check what is default CHMOD for Samba folder? (/etc/Samba)  ????04:05
llebergHa, after lots of trouble, i have got ubunti going :P04:05
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Daniellethat's ONLY for the desktop NOT internet04:05
ssstormyguest_, and for /bin you should reinstall all the core packages04:05
R0bNycssstormy, i dont see it =\04:06
ssstormyguest_, you might as well login as root04:06
ssstormyR0bNyc, one sec04:06
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SpaceBassevening04:06
snowowlDanielle you still there -- If you are - I just did a little research on you problem and appearently the fix ( as I read from some threads) was reinstalling Kdebase304:07
Shadymanubotu: tell guest_ about sudoroot04:07
guest_ssstormy: I might as well do complete reinstall, aren't all my custom installed packages gone now?04:07
Shadymanubotu: tell guest_ about rootsudo04:07
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smodaft question, where's pastebin? (ie, URL?)04:07
Shadyman!pastebin04:07
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:07
smoThanks04:07
Shadyman:)04:07
SpaceBassI set-up a dual boot system then blew away the ubuntu drive in Windows... now I get a grub error -17... to be fair I'm considerably more proficient in windows, but I've tried everything I know (recovery console- fixboot, fixmbr)... I cannot remember if I installed grub in the MBR or the first sector... anyone have hints?04:08
ShadymanI love Ubotu. He's so helpful.04:08
ssstormyguest_, nope04:08
y_o_uanyone here, help with a wireless PCI card driver problem? *getting on my knees* please...04:08
ssstormyguest_, you didn't loose /home or /usr04:08
Daniellesnowowl: i'm here. sorry but you did see it's only for the desktop and not the internet04:08
kalincould anybody tell me if it's posible playing gunbound over linux?04:08
sklavSpaceBass, u trying to recover windows?04:08
ssstormyguest_, unless it didn't go alphabetical04:08
Shadymanubotu: tell y_o_u about ndiswrapper04:08
SpaceBasssklav:  desperatly04:08
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Shadymany_o_u: What's the problem?04:09
lucasdcan somebody tell if there's any plans to provide beep-media-player-X at ubuntu repositories?04:09
sklavu positive you did not destroy the windows partition?04:09
SpaceBasssklav:  I broke down and bought a 2nd box to run ubuntu on, so I didn;t need to dual boot anymore04:09
ssstormyguest_, home usr etc     those are the 3 most important for customization/config04:09
SpaceBasssklav: 100% sure the windows parititon is still there04:09
sklavwhen using recovery console in windows from the cd04:09
guest_ssstormy: youre right, I still have those04:09
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smoguest_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6294   That's what packages populate my /bin (on breezy).  Given that, a linux-image-* package, reconstruction of your menu.lst for grub, and grub-install .. you may save your hide04:09
guest_yeah, still have those04:09
sklavit asks you to select your windows installation04:09
sklavthen to login04:09
sklavdid you get that far?04:09
SpaceBasssklav: yeah... thats what I used, can get to the c:\ prompt04:10
pgleesomebody: should i use gcc 3.4 or gcc 4 to build a 2.6 kernel?04:10
kalin=(04:10
kalin=(04:10
sklavok04:10
kalin=(04:10
DanielleKdebase3 not in synaptic :( you don't think i should try and uninstall kcontrol then reboot. where can i get Kdebase3? is there a KDE place i can go to?04:10
kalin=(04:10
sklavtype FIXMBR04:10
Shadyman!spam04:10
ubotuShadyman: Do they come in packets of five?04:10
guest_smo: actually /etc is gone04:10
lucasdcan somebody tell me if there's any plans to provide beep-media-player-X at ubuntu repositories?04:10
Shadymanubotu: Yes.04:10
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, shadyman?04:10
kalinjeje04:10
kalinoops04:10
SpaceBasssklav:  and I can run bootcfg /scan  and it finds the windows install04:10
ssstormySpaceBass, what happens if you dir in c:\?04:10
Shadyman!enter04:10
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!04:10
kalinno clam down04:10
SpaceBasssklav: yeah I ran fixmbr and fixboot ... several times... no dice04:10
y_o_ushady: i installed ndiswrapper, seemed ok. then installed the drivers like the howto said. seems fine. when i check to see what is installed, it tells me that there is an invalid driver. when i try to uninstall driver, says it is not installed. when i try to reinstall, it says that it is already installed. going around in circles, just not sure where to look next04:10
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sklavhum04:11
snowowlDan - In synaptic its called kdebase04:11
sethky_o_u, try installing with force.  That will install it even if it believes it to be already installed04:11
kalinis there anybody free to help me?04:11
ssstormySpaceBass, does the computer just not boot after fixboot / fixmbr, or does grub still show up?04:11
kalin=(04:11
Shadymankalin: What's wrong, is the smiley button broken?04:11
SpaceBasssklav:  now that being said... the drive is on a 3rd party ATA controller and I don't have the floppy with the drivers... so I pulled the drive and threw it in a USB inclosure... not sure if that would matter04:11
kalinjehehe04:11
SpaceBassssstormy:  i get a -17 when grub loads04:11
kalinsorry man04:11
Shadyman;)04:11
dvtool!tell dvtool about samba04:12
smoguest_: Then (imho) you probably want to save /home somewhere (and maybe /var if you use mysql & such), and start again04:12
y_o_usethk, what command installs with force?04:12
ssstormywhere is your windows partition?04:12
mark_dabaR,  u still here?04:12
kalini want to play gunbound over linux04:12
ssstormyhda1,2,3,4?04:12
sethky_o_u, you can do it with dpkg.  I think also with apt-get04:12
DigitalSigok, i got another problem, ive forgotten my su password, infact i dont remeber ever putting one in.. is there any way i can find out what it would be?04:12
Shadymankalin: You'd have to check the gunbound site, then.04:12
SpaceBassssstormy:  hda104:12
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Shadymankalin: Otherwise, try installing Wine.04:12
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kalinwine??04:12
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ssstormyfind someone with windows instlaled on hda104:12
MadpilotDigitalSig: use sudo, not su, and your own user pw04:12
kalinwhere can i find it?04:12
Shadymanubotu: tell kalin about wine04:12
SpaceBassbtw-  I realize the hypocracy of coming here for help recovering windows... and I appericate it04:12
DigitalSigahh thanks madpilot04:12
Madpilot!tell DigitalSig about sudo04:12
y_o_uthanks, i will try now...04:13
SpaceBassssstormy:  why would that help?04:13
ssstormyget them to do a dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=512 count=1 of=./winxp_mbr04:13
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SpaceBassssstormy:  ahhh gotcha04:13
ssstormythen try using linux to dd if=./winxp_mbr of=/dev/hda04:13
ssstormyoh oops04:13
ssstormyon command #104:13
ssstormydd if=/dev/hda04:13
ssstormynot hda104:13
snowowlSpaceBass it not Hypocracy but called common sense - long live linux04:14
dvtoolhow do I ask Ubotu to tell me about Samba?04:14
cafuegossstormy: Why not just use the mbr package?04:14
Danielleif i have Kdebase3 on my system and i search in Places>Search for files ...File System shoudl it be found?04:14
DigitalSigmadpilot, im asked to insert switches for the sudo command :/04:14
SpaceBassssstormy:  I have my new ubuntu box I can use for that... and a spare HD... I guess I could pull the ubuntu HD and then load XP then do the dd04:14
ssstormycafuego, as best I know that ocmputer dosn't even have linux isntalled04:14
cafuego'ms-sys' even.04:14
DigitalSigi need to get root priveldges04:14
cafuegossstormy: Then 'dd' won't work either.04:14
sklavSpaceBass, you did fixboot c:04:14
SpaceBassssstormy:  correct, the box in question 'lost' its linux partitions (and by lost I mean I wiped them)04:15
ssstormycafuego, oh yes it will- from a boot disk, or the ubuntu install disk04:15
Epixis there a nice easy visual grub config tool in ubuntu?04:15
cafuegossstormy: The livecd happily runs ms-sys too.04:15
MadpilotDigitalSig: read the URL the bot sent you - basically, stick "sudo" in front of the commands you want to use - "sudo mv foo /var/www/foo" etc04:15
guest_so smo and ssstormy , looks like a complete reinstall right?  luckily my /home is on another partition04:15
sklavyou must specify the drive04:15
SpaceBasssklav well.... I did fixboot, I didn't specify the drive... and if its that simple I'm going to kick my self in the nuts04:15
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sklavu must specify the drive04:15
MadpilotDigitalSig: also, "man sudo"04:15
ssstormycafuego, my point is it has no linux so he needs a boot media, and can't install mbr package (or can he?)04:15
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SpaceBasssklav: I mean... I'd never run fidisk with out the drive or mount with out the dev ... not sure why I'd be that dumb04:16
sklavSpaceBass, try both commands again but make sure you specify the drive for fixboot and fixmbr04:16
psusiif you are trying to remove grub, you want fixmbr, not fixboot04:16
ssstormyguest_, it depends on how bad you want to keep your old install04:16
sklavfixmbr c:04:16
cafuegossstormy: If he's a got a livecd he can.04:16
sklavand fixboot c:04:16
ssstormyguest_, /bin is pretty easily replaced; not touched often04:16
h4xwhats a good C++ compiler for ubuntu?04:16
SpaceBasssklav: thanks04:16
sklavnp04:16
cafuegoh4x: gcc04:16
Epixas in, I want to add a windows partition to the grub menu. can i easly do it?04:16
h4xis that in the repository?04:16
ssstormycafuego, you can instlal packages on a RAMdisk ubuntu?04:16
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SpaceBassI did think about a live CD (knoppix or ubuntu)... but was trying to keep it simple first04:16
cafuegossstormy: Yep04:16
guest_ssstormy: what about /etc ?04:16
h4xthank you: cafuego04:17
ssstormyEpix, i can't help with grub, but lilo i know04:17
j2daoshholy crap... i got the fake boot of an iso figured out finally... well i wont be forgetting how to do that anytime soon04:17
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j2daoshthanks for all your help guys04:17
ssstormyguest_, you lost that?  that's bad.. you'll ahve to reinstall most of your packages04:17
j2daoshgimme afew hours and ill be back in here with another noob question04:17
sklavSpaceBass, any luck?04:17
Epixanyone know grub?04:17
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sklavj2daosh, awesome then one day u might answer my noob questions04:17
sklavhehe04:17
SpaceBasssklav & ssstormy ... thanks! I'm going to try fixmbr and fixboot with the drive specified (and smack myself), if that doesnt work, I'll copy the ./xp_mbr from a working drive04:17
j2daoshlol skla04:17
psusissstormy, you should try grub... I was used to lilo from way back in the day too... but finally tried grub, it it wtfpwn's lilo04:18
j2daoshwell what questions do you have?04:18
SpaceBasssklav:  I'm in front of the TV right now... left my office when I got uber fustrated... going to go try again now04:18
Epixj2daosh: newb questions are the best. they are the easiest to answer! thats my speciality.04:18
sklavok04:18
ssstormypsusi, well grub is awsome, but i need lilo04:18
j2daoshlol epix04:18
psusissstormy, what for?04:18
ssstormyI screw over my system so often04:18
ssstormyi need to ahve control over it all the way04:18
sklavSpaceBass, if in question use the map option to figure out what name windows wants04:18
psusithat's why I love grub... you screw up lilo.conf, and it's insert boot disk time... screw up menu.lst, and you can manually command grub how to boot correctly04:19
Epixssstormy: liveCD's are god.04:19
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ssstormygrub just didn't cut it once the problems started rolling in04:19
sklavjust in case ;)04:19
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rickhi+04:19
rickhello there04:19
sklavssstormy, grub is awesome after you figure out some of it cool options04:19
sklavediting on the fly has saved me 100+ times04:19
WorstPhobiaWhat's a good Linux backup program? Someone told me of one earlier but I forgot...04:19
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ssstormypsusi, nah, most importantly I don't know all the syntax etc, while I do understand lilo's inner workings04:19
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j2daoshok... quick question before i head out... what can windows do that linux cant?04:19
rickgf04:19
ssstormyWorstPhobia, dd04:19
SpaceBassI got a nice new g5 mac for my b-day yesterday and was in the process of changing some disk stuff in prep for migrating from XP on the desktop to os x ... and badda boom I wiped my ubuntu partition... thats how it all started04:20
rickdoes someone speak spanish?04:20
sklavssstormy, very simlar to lilo04:20
guest_ok, thx ssstormy , this is sad, was about to backup root today04:20
Madpilotj2daosh: catch viruses :P04:20
ssstormyWorstPhobia, dd if=/dev/hda of=./disk_backup04:20
WorstPhobiaj2daosh: Offer free stuff04:20
rickSOMEONE?04:20
Epixpsusi: do you remember offhand the commands to do a windows boot?04:20
sklavjoin #ubuntu-es04:20
psusissstormy, I have the exact reverse experience... when I first tried grub I got the kernel options wrong and the system wouldn't boot... but I could manually tell grub the correct way to boot and didn't need a boot disk... I fell in love with grub because of that ;)04:20
mister_robotoj2daosh: play games well :)04:20
SpaceBassbut I haven't needed the ubutntu part since I bought a dedicated box for it04:20
rickSPANISH?SPANISH?SPANISH?04:20
cafuegoj2daosh: Run a lot o copy-protected Windows-only games.04:20
cafuegorick: Stop spamming.04:20
Madpilot!es04:20
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:20
WorstPhobiassstormy: I'll see...04:20
WorstPhobiassstormy: Thanks.04:20
psusiEpic, root then chainload iirc04:20
rickKISS MY ASS!!04:20
cafuegorick: Go away.04:20
Epix!ban rick04:20
ubotuEpix: Are you smoking crack?04:20
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sklavrick, "/join #ubuntu-es"04:21
Epixaww, it doesnt work?04:21
Epix:P04:21
rickWHY SHOULD I04:21
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rickU ARE ...04:21
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Epixhe obiously speaks english...04:21
cafuegorick: 1) You're yelling. 2) You're being rude.04:21
NeoNmaNhallo i need help...04:21
j2daoshok so windows can play games....thats all it has on linux?04:21
rickhow old are u?04:21
Epixeven though its crappy, capslocked english04:21
ssstormyWorstPhobia, it will make a perfect copy of your drive04:21
ricku look some old guy04:21
cafuegorick: About twice your age,I would guess.04:21
cbbhey.. does anyone know if ubuntu will pick up an Atheros AR5001X+ wireless adapter?04:21
Epixj2daosh: well, windows costs more.04:21
psusissstormy, yea... I did the same thing... when I installed ubuntu I had no idea how to use grub, so I just went with lilo.. ended up having to patch the lilo sources and come up with a VERY interesting lilo.conf using the use-bios-codes and disk= parameters to get my system to boot04:21
sklav!tell rick about ubuntu spanish04:21
ricki am 2004:21
SpaceBassj2daosh:  and arguably (I'm going to get flamed) itunes and outlook04:21
ssstormyj2daosh, it has a few things04:22
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j2daoshhey rick... the question is how old are you? if you want help knock it off... if not... get out and go somewhere were your type of attitude is welcome04:22
ssstormywide use04:22
cafuegorick: Then act like it.04:22
ssstormyapps04:22
ricko.k slklav04:22
ssstormylike iTunes04:22
psusissstormy, then I spent a few hours reading about how grub works, and gave it a shot... worked fine04:22
pl_icerick go off topic to chit chat04:22
ssstormynot to say gtkpod is bad04:22
NeoNmaNwhy is my CPU load 100% when i move xwindow around on my screen..... i think its is gfx problem bot im not sure04:22
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ssstormybut if you need iTunes you're dead04:22
sklav!tell rick about #ubuntu-es04:22
j2daoshoutlook sucks... itunes... lol i got my cd's04:22
rickI WANNA BE A SUPERMAN04:22
SpaceBassssstormy:  yep!04:22
cafuegossstormy: iTunes runs fine in cxoffice.04:22
psusissstormy, once I learned to use it, getting it to work on my weird system was much easier than lilo04:22
rickI WANNA BE A RONEY STAR04:22
rickLALALALA LAALLALA04:22
cafuego!ops04:22
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth04:22
Epixj2daosh: so if you like spending lots of cash windows is a good option. I mean once you got the OS, you get sucked into buying the antivirus stuff and anti-spyware etc...04:22
ssstormypsusi, well I'm lazy... I liked the live edit, but lilo's working and I haven't killed it again yet04:22
Kyralrick STFU04:22
Madpilotsklav: try just !es04:22
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rickU STUPIDS GUYS04:22
SpaceBasscafuego:  not 6.1 (or does it?)04:22
llama32SpaceBase: outlook is shit, as buggy as ie04:22
sklavok04:22
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cafuegorick: bye04:22
sklavhehe04:22
ssstormycafuego, do you have to pay for cxoffice/04:22
sklav!es04:23
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:23
sklavnice04:23
j2daoshlol epix... i dont buy windows or the software to go with it04:23
GTroy!sources.list04:23
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:23
cafuegossstormy: Costs a lot les than windows xp.04:23
SEJeffpsusi, grub is great once you get used to it04:23
tonyyarussoSpaceBass, j2daosh, ssstormy: SharpMusique works for iTunes on Linux.04:23
SpaceBassoutlook is great and gets a bad rap... and it works better with exchange than anything else04:23
Epixrick: good night.04:23
cbb does anyone know if ubuntu will pick up an Atheros AR5001X+ wireless adapter?04:23
cafuegonalioth: cheers04:23
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ssstormyEpix actually you learn how to get free protection04:23
SEJeffpsusi, And grub 2 supports scripting believe it or not04:23
ssstormylike I always said04:23
psusissstormy, hehe... yea... sometime when you're bored though, take a few to read the grub manual... and when you're really board, give it a try...04:23
ssstormyyou don't get protection on the internet04:23
ssstormyyou make your own04:23
SpaceBasstonyyarusso:  but will it play music store DRM songs04:23
Epixssstormy: :P , pratice safe computing.04:23
j2daoshi dont like outlook... takes too much memory and now you cant even send an executable04:23
ssstormypsusi, will do04:23
cafuegocbb: Atheros cards should be picked up automagically.04:23
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psusiSEJeff, yea... once I figured out how to use it, it kicks ass04:23
j2daoshnot without renaming it to something outlook doesn't know first04:23
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dvtoolHow to restart Samba from terminal?04:24
ssstormycafuego, I haven't paid a dime yet for any of my software04:24
cbb.04:24
SpaceBassj2daosh:  you can send an .exe thats totally configurable04:24
tonyyarussoSpaceBass, I think so.  Haven't tried it out much.04:24
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sklavSpaceBass, Outlook is a bit of a memory hog04:24
cbb does anyone know if ubuntu will pick up an Atheros AR5001X+ wireless adapter?04:24
sklavim an admin at work04:24
SpaceBasssklav:  true that!04:24
j2daoshSpaceBass, not in 200304:24
sklavfor the exchange server04:24
ssstormyj2daosh, that's another04:24
cafuegossstormy: If you bought a Pod you did ;-)04:24
sklavi hate it04:24
ssstormydrivesr04:24
ssstormy*drivers04:24
sklavMS figured a transactionign systems was needed for email04:24
pl_icethis : /etc/init.d/samba restart04:24
ssstormycompanies always make drivers for windows first04:24
SpaceBassoutlook is a memory pig... I agree... but for something to work with exchange (including calendar, etc) it works well (as designed, I guess)04:24
j2daoshthey made outlook that way because of the melissa virus04:24
cbb587 people in here and no one can answer one question04:24
ssstormylinux communtiy will take a little while to write one04:24
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sklavyes it does work04:24
sklavim not sure about the well par t;)04:25
j2daoshcbb... all i saw was a .04:25
sklavim not sure about the well part ;)04:25
cafuegocbb: I answered it already.04:25
ssstormycafuego, well I didn't buy it for the software- heck, I installed ipod-linux on it XP04:25
j2daoshand cafe already got you04:25
SpaceBassI've tried evolution and mail.app (os x), etc... but I prefer the hog04:25
sklavipod-linux?04:25
sklavhum04:25
ssstormysklav, oh yeah04:25
psusiSEJeff, I love how it understands the filesystem so you don't have to reinstall the MBR to update the sector maps of your kernel when you change it04:25
cafuegossstormy: You paid the license fee for the mp3 codec when you paid for the pod, though.04:25
cbbcafuego: sorry, didn't see that. but if it picks up my card, is there software to pick up access points?04:25
ssstormyhttp://www.ipodlinux.org/Main_Page04:25
SpaceBassI dont get apple's reluctance to release itunes of linux... but thats another issue04:25
dvtoolI Use Opera email04:25
evanbro_are there any official 80x15 images for linking to ubuntu?04:26
evanbro_(or unofficial)04:26
ssstormycafuego, ah but see the hd came blank...04:26
cafuegocbb: There should be, I've never used an atheros based card so I don't know if stuff like kismet works with them.04:26
ssstormynot really! :)04:26
sklavitunes for linux would rock but figure with OS X being relased on i386 platform this year04:26
Epixssstormy: is iPL any good, i havent looked at it for a long while04:26
sklavit will be ported at some point04:26
ssstormyEpix, it's gotten much much better04:26
cbbcafuego: okay, thanks man04:27
pl_iceevanbro_ i think so, found them yesterday...04:27
Epixssstormy: second gen mini support yet?04:27
SpaceBasssklav:  yeah, I suspect the x86 port of os x will help a lot in that regard04:27
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ssstormycafuego, I guess you got me there04:27
ssstormythat makes 1x in my life04:27
ssstormyEpix, yup04:27
aratrying to hook my second hard and it says " unknown filesystem type '/dev/hdb1'" what am i missing in the command?04:27
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ssstormysupport for all but the newest 204:27
SpaceBassmaybe then I can get off Active Directory and windows for good04:27
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ssstormyalthough they are already running linux kernels on the little one04:28
robitailleevanbro_,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebsiteButtons04:28
cafuegoSpaceBass: Last I heard samba and ldap already did that nonsense.04:28
SpaceBassanway- thaks again ssstormy  and sklav  ... I'm going to go try specifying the drive and see if I cannot clear my grub issue04:28
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evanbro_robitaille: thanks much04:28
SpaceBasscafuego: true... I tend to sell things like openldap short04:28
ssstormySpaceBass, hope it helps04:28
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WorstPhobiaWhat's a good application for sticky notes?04:29
cafuegoSpaceBass: ANything not fedora has to be good.04:29
SpaceBasscentos :) ?04:29
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cafuegoWorstPhobia: right click the panel, choose add to panel..., choose sticky notes.04:29
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sklavbeen using rpm distros for years04:30
mcscruffdoes anyone know what package provides libacl04:30
sklavi kinda like the deb system04:30
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sklavcall me lazy04:30
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pl_icelazy :)04:30
sklavhehe04:30
cafuegosklav: /nick lazy04:30
sklavyup lazy04:30
robitaillemcscruff,  libacl104:31
MadpilotWorstPhobia: try Tomboy04:31
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cafuegoif you were truly lazy you wouldn't have done that04:31
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robitaillemcscruff, ,  http://packages.ubuntu.com is great for finding things like that04:31
cafuegohmm04:31
sklavoh well not lazy enough i guess04:31
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tipnmowould someone be willing to help me with an apparent ati driver issue04:31
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tipnmoi am very new to ubuntu and i cant figure out what i am doing wrong04:32
kriswhois s04:32
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tipnmoi followed a guide on the ubuntu forums but when running the cedega system test i fail 3d accl04:32
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pl_iceara u said that u mounted the hardrive once manualy, can u please give it here, i'll change it so it fits fstab04:32
renato\j #ubuntu-br04:32
sklavtipnmo, does ati like nvidia have ati-glx-config enable option?04:32
sklavim guessing mind you04:33
WorstPhobiaThanks Madpilot04:33
tipnmoi have no idea04:33
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renato\j #ubuntu-br04:33
arapl_ice , i'm trying to use the same command but it wont work, i guess i forgot the command04:33
tipnmosklav, i have no clue.. this is my first install with a linux distro04:33
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DigitalSigthank u all for your help.04:34
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sklavtipnmo, check out this site04:34
pl_iceara, give me the filesystem of hd and which hard drive it is, where u want to mount it04:34
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sklavhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATIOnBreezyOpenGLFix?highlight=%28ati%2904:34
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pl_icesklav any good chicks on it? :>04:34
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brother_of_jaredGreets...04:34
sklavpay attention to the version04:35
chance2105_Aight.  My ubuntu install ended up somehow not having an admin group, and my user didn't get added to it.  I tried adding the admin group, and then adding my regular user to it, with no luck.  Is this fixable?04:35
arapl_ice , /dev/hdb1 mount to /home/ara/mymedia04:35
sklavas for chicks pl_ice i think 1 wrote it04:35
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sklavhehe04:35
pl_iceara and is it ntfs or fat32 or ext3 etc ?04:35
brother_of_jaredI could use some help on setting up mysql-server... specifically the part that talks about configuring the "localhost.localdomain" any one up for it?04:35
arantfs04:35
sklavpl_ice, use the auto option04:35
arapl_ice ntfs04:35
pl_iceok04:36
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Toma-chance2105_: have you tried using System > Admin > Users and Groups, then adding the group there?04:36
tonyyarussoCan anyone help me recover console switching?  I can't do it anymore.04:36
pl_iceara  try in console first: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 -t ntfs /home/ara/mymedia04:37
sklavtonyyarusso, edit the /etc/inittab and change runlevel from 5 to 304:37
sklavthat will fix it04:37
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MrPPVError 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure04:37
brother_of_jaredAny takers on that one about configuring PostFix?04:37
MrPPVhow can i resolve this error?04:37
tonyyarussosklav, What does that do?  (So I can understand for later.)04:37
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sklavits allows fro multiple terminals04:37
MrPPVit appers when i try to start the computer04:37
MrPPV:X04:37
sklavwhile runlevel 5 doesnt04:38
sklavits in the docs04:38
sklavi read it last time04:38
arapl_ice ok it worked04:38
sklavthat is what im doing04:38
GTroyman what a pain it is if you don't have 3rd party support for your repos!04:38
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brother_of_jared<--- needs a hand on this please...04:38
sarooonecesito ayuda04:38
tonyyarussosklav, So probably something changed to file from 3 before to 5?04:38
MrPPVsomebody?04:38
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tonyyarussosklav, And do I need to reboot or something for that to take effect?04:38
MrPPV:(04:38
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sklavino reboot needed04:38
sklavjust run init 304:39
sklavon command line04:39
sklavand it will be done04:39
pl_iceara edit /etc/fstab and put :  /dev/hdb1       /home/ara/mymdeia          ntfs    ro,user,nosuid  0        004:39
pl_icei assume that mymedia is empty folder, ready to mount ...04:39
sklavsudo init 304:39
sklavto be exact04:39
arapl_ice let me try04:39
brother_of_jaredanyone?04:39
sklavbrother_of_jared, what is the postfix issue?04:40
brother_of_jaredI am doing my first install04:40
pl_icesklav i though u're lazy ;)04:40
sklavlol04:40
sklavso did i04:40
sklavits quite amazing04:40
brother_of_jarednot certain what I put for the localhost.localdomain04:40
sklavhonestly04:40
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WorstPhobiaMadpilot, do you know of any apps that are more like Post-it note apps?04:40
pl_icelol04:40
sklavbrother_of_jared, put your computer name or domain name that u want example mail.brotherorjared.com04:40
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tonyyarussosklav, Is the line id:#:initdefault: what you're referring to?04:41
sklavyes tonyyarusso04:41
tonyyarussosklav, Mine says 2 right now, not 5.04:41
brother_of_jaredI guess my first question to answer is the overall config.. like internet site or internet with smarthost04:41
sarooohow i can obtain the grub menu, after install windows xp ???????????04:41
sklavweird04:41
sklavmine says 2 also04:41
tonyyarussosklav, Interesting.04:42
psusisarooo, reinstall it04:42
brother_of_jaredsklav // so localhost could be jared and domain then would be com so localhost.localdomain could be jared.com04:42
sarooo<psusi> sarooo, reinstall it << not is neccesary04:43
sklavtonyyarusso, try the init 3 option04:43
AmaranthSeveas: lmao, someone wants you removed from ubuntu-devel04:43
sklavwhat is you domain brother_of_jared04:43
chance2105_Toma-:  Figured it out.  My user was (1) not part of the admin group (that I ended up having to create), and (2) my user was not part of the sudoer's file.  I must have enabled the root account by accident during the install.04:43
sklavexample my domain is sklav.com04:43
sklavso my hostname is mail.sklav.com04:43
arapl_ice hey you forgot to tell me something, umask=100004:43
brother_of_jaredsklav // not certain.. I've not gone out to purchase one.. I guess I need to?04:44
pl_iceara :)04:44
tonyyarussosklav, That doesn't seem to have done anything.04:44
sklavwell yes04:44
arapl_ice just kidding04:44
MrPPVError 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure - how can i resolve this error in grub?04:44
sklavunless you want local email than leave it at localhost.localdomain04:44
MrPPVhelp.....04:44
pl_iceara yeh, we all gettin' old ;)04:44
brother_of_jaredI was hoping to set my system up so I could serve pages or files from here.04:44
psusisarooyou asked the question.. I gave the answer... instaling windows trashed grub so you need to reinstall it04:44
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psusiMrPPV, boot from the livecd and fsck the volume... it's damaged04:45
arapl_ice i don't know how long is it gonna take me to learn all this command, i want my XP back!!!!04:45
MrPPVfsck what? :X04:45
MrPPVn00b here04:45
pl_iceara don't :) in couple of month u gonn cruse :)04:46
sklavlater guys04:46
sklavim off to bed04:46
GTroyara: yeah, don't sweat it, after a little while 10.4 cruises04:46
GTroyeven after 10 years of windoze04:47
sklavbrother_of_jared, get a dynamic dns domain name04:47
MrPPVpsusi04:47
pl_iceu guys seen for gnome random wallpaper changer? can't find any ...04:47
sklavand setup your systems accordingly with the hostname04:47
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sklavok as for me im off i speak to u all next time04:47
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arapl_ice do i have to put that umask=1000 into fstab04:47
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GTroynight skalv04:47
psusiMrPPV, if the volume in question is /dev/hda1, then boot from the livecd and run sudo fsck /dev/hda104:47
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GTroy*sklav* even04:48
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sklavGTroy, ?04:48
sklavhehe04:48
sklavi saw it04:48
sklavlater GTroy04:48
pl_iceara i think so, but ntfs is read only, so i don't think u'll need it... try :)04:48
GTroy:D04:48
pl_icethe 'user' is important one04:48
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tellimhi all, im still having problems with dvd playback, it tries to start, have libdvdcss2 and all, but it always fails saying it cant read from the disc in xine....04:49
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arapl_ice it's giving me this error--> unknown mime-type for "/etc/fstab" -- using "application/*"04:49
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pl_iceara try sudo gedit /etc/fstab  then add that line btw, did the manual mount worked?04:50
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arapl_ice yeah the manual mount worked but i can't edit the fstab even if i use sudo04:51
pl_iceara , why? ... not sure04:52
stevenjNew installation of breezy - all repos enabled and I get this 'Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:52
stevenjThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:52
stevenjis only available from another source' what the crap??????????04:52
arapl_ice  "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"04:52
psusiara, I think you mean uid=1000, not umask=100004:52
arapl_ice this is the error04:52
stevenjops04:52
arapl_ice no umask=100004:52
fredforfaen!sensors04:53
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sensors is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto04:53
arapl_ice that's what i used last time04:53
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psusino... 1000 is not a valid umask... umask=777 will make all files r/w/x to everyone... uid=1000 will make the files be owned by the default user ( you )04:53
pl_iceara ,shit, don't know u sure the file is not open, yeh psusi is right ...04:53
stevenjanyone have a clue as to why  msttcorefonts04:54
stevenj is not longer in universe??????04:54
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pl_icestevenj hm, i had them 2 wks ago...04:54
stevenjnow I guess xchat is craping out brb04:54
MrPPVwhat is the default password for the root user_04:54
MrPPV_04:54
SpaceBasswell, I hate to say... still cannot get rid of grub04:54
psusitell MrPPV about root04:55
stevenjpl_ice, check now...they are not there04:55
arapl_ice what?04:55
SEJeff!sudo04:55
SpaceBassMrPPV:  there is no root user04:55
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pl_icestevenj it's msttcorefonts04:55
=== SpaceBass just over simplified that
pl_iceara keep trying to edit that file ;) not sure what's wrong ...04:55
stevenjpl_ice, thats what I typed above04:56
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arapl_ice but this is the command i used last time and it was working perfect04:56
pl_iceara u have to put that line i gave to /etc/fstab for automount somehow ...04:56
MrPPVi tried to do fsck /dev/hda1 but then it showed an error saying that i have no permission04:56
arapl_ice should i reboot or what?04:56
MrPPV>*04:56
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psusiMrPPV, sudo fsck04:57
psusiMrPPV, you need to prefix it with sudo because it is a privledged operation04:57
MrPPVoh =P04:57
brother_of_jaredMadpilot // are you here??04:57
MrPPVsorry )P04:57
SpaceBassI need some help removing grub from a windows HD... removed the ubuntu partitions from windows and now I get a grub error -17 on boot... tried fixmbr and fixboot from windows recovery04:57
MrPPV=P04:57
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psusiSpaceBass, fixmbr will fix it04:58
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SpaceBasspsusi:  I thought so too, but it didnt04:58
psusitry fixmbr c: maybe?04:59
shammySpaceBass: try fixboot04:59
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SpaceBasspsusi:  I tried that04:59
arapl_ice ok  i made it work by vi /etc/fstab04:59
psusithat's fubar... don't know what to tell you04:59
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arapl_ice i chose the option recover05:00
pl_iceara, now sudo umount /home/ara/mymedia or what is it05:00
stevenjah they are in multiuniverse05:00
stevenjhmm05:00
tipnmoi am having issues getting 3D acceleration issues to work... i have tried several guides now.. followed them exactly... and nothing... i have a x800xt with the latest driver (i think i installed it correctly)05:00
arapl_ice do i have to umount it now?05:00
shammySpaceBass: if neither fixmbr or fixboot helped then there's definately something else wrong.. but try installing GRUB over it again?05:01
arapl_ice how do i exit this screen ,? fstab i mean05:01
pl_icecouse do now that: to check if fstab is correct . : sudo mount -av05:01
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tipnmoanyone have any ideas.. any way i can diagnose?05:01
JasonOfEarthI'm having a problem with acpid... I killed it and then tried to run it and it tells me it can't open /proc/acpid/event when I try to sudo cat it it hangs the terminal anybody know what may be using it?05:01
SpaceBassshammy:  I'm not opposed to re-installing grub... guess I need to research how to do that via a live CD or something thought05:01
pl_iceara , in gedit or vi ?05:01
brother_of_jaredQuestion....05:01
SpaceBasss/thought/though05:01
aravi05:02
pl_ice:/wq05:02
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tonyyarussoSpaceBass, I might have a link for you.05:02
MrPPVpsusi what what should appear?05:02
llama32mmmmmmm, space cakes05:02
brother_of_jaredIf I don't want to use "localhost" but would prefer "brotherofjared" how can I change that?05:02
shammySpaceBass: Doesn't have to be grub, jst something that would re-write an MBR so you have something working05:02
pl_icebrother_of_jared i think it /etc/hosts05:02
SpaceBasstonyyarusso: anything would be appericated!05:02
shammyIs there more wireless support in Breezy? I haven't used ubuntu since hoary and want to go back.05:03
tonyyarussoSpaceBass, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, talks about re-installing/configuring grub from a Live CD.05:03
brother_of_jaredpl_ice // thanks but I'm not certain how to change it..05:03
pl_icecan someone find me wp_tray package in gz or something ? can't find it ...05:03
brother_of_jaredThis terminal thing is rather cool but plenty to remember.05:03
psusiMrPPV, it should check the volume out and hopefully fix whatever is wrong with it05:03
tipnmowhen i run fglrxinfo i get05:03
SpaceBasssince I don't have a floppy with the ATA controller card's drivers I've pulled the drive and put it in a usb inclosure... then I remove it and put it back on the controller's IDE chain... I suspect that could be part of the problem too05:03
MrPPVtnkz05:04
JasonOfEarthbrother_of_jarrod it's actually /etc/hostname05:04
arapl_ice typr "/wq?05:04
JasonOfEarthjust edit it05:04
SpaceBasstonyyarusso: thanks05:04
brother_of_jaredJason // how?05:04
tipnmoOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org05:04
tipnmoOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect05:04
tipnmoOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)05:04
pl_ice;)05:04
pl_iceara sorry it's  :wq05:04
JasonOfEarthhmmm... gedit should be installed and you'll have to use sudo05:04
SpaceBasstonyyarusso: broken link, but I will try and find the page... thanks for the tip05:04
JasonOfEarthso sudo gedit /etc/hostname05:04
llama32brother_of_jared: i thought IRC names had a max of 11 characters05:04
llama32brother_of_jared: the specifications, they lie!05:05
brother_of_jaredllama // that could be true, but what I typed was just an example05:05
psusillama32, depends on how the irc server was compiled...05:05
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JasonOfEarthbrother of jared: there are two places... 1 in the hostnameareay05:06
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JasonOfEarthbut also you have to go into /etc/hosts and modify the top line05:06
JasonOfEarthotherwise you won't be able to get to the internet05:06
tonyyarussoSpaceBass, Odd, it just opened for me.05:07
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SpaceBasstonyyarusso:  looks like my IRC client picked up a "," somewhere in the URL...  working now05:07
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tonyyarussoSpaceBass, Ah.05:08
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SpaceBassI;m gonna download the live CD and try and repair grub in the morning05:09
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SpaceBassthanks again guys05:09
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arapl_ice i can't exit this fstab screen , it just types05:09
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linuxpoetDoes anyone here know who the postgresql packager for ubuntu is?05:10
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Kovecsesare the gnome and ubuntu releases still together?05:10
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Toma-linuxpoet: you can find out with synaptic05:10
tonyyarussoKovecses, Ubuntu releases are one month after Gnome.05:10
xiaowenCan you all tell me please why you chose Ubunto over other distributions?05:11
Kovecsestonyyarusso, so all releases of ubuntu will have the latest gnome?05:11
pl_iceara u have to put  :  then command wq  (ie. write guit)05:11
brother_of_jaredediting the hostname didn't change anything....05:11
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brother_of_jaredlet me ask this..05:11
beauhey everyone.. I'm experiencing an interesting bug with ubuntu05:11
flodineguys how can i view mpg files on ubuntu05:11
JasonOfEarthis /proc/acpi/event just a file... for some reason I can't read it or delete it or anything I turned of acpid any idea what else might be trying to use this05:11
pl_icebrother_of_jared u probably have to restart couple of things ..05:11
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SpaceBassflodine:  check out vlcplayer05:11
brother_of_jaredwhat do I need to do so that my wife can view a page on my system, from her system05:12
JasonOfEarthbrother_of_jared... you must logout and log back on05:12
tonyyarussoKovecses, Yes.05:12
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Toma-flodine: with Totem, its under Apps > Multimedia05:12
JasonOfEarthbut make sure you also edited the /etc/hosts05:12
Kovecsestonyyarusso, sweet05:12
MrPPVl05:12
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beauflodine: go to digg.com and do a search for  ubuntu multimedia  ... they link to a great script that installs a lot of multimedia stuff05:12
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  do you have a DNS server on your network?05:12
flodinei download a movie all mpg files do i need to open it05:12
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  if you don;t have a DNS server then your wife will have to use your computer's IP, not host name05:13
pl_iceJasonOfEarth what u want with it? to have  a look sudo cat event ....05:13
brother_of_jaredAll I have done is followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP05:13
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JasonOfEarth@pl_ice: I tried to sudo cat event but it hangs the terminal... so that's not normal05:13
Toma-flodine: you should already have Totem installed. its all you need for most mpegs05:13
tuvthe first control appearing in my mixer is not the one actually controlling the volume, the third one is. so the keyboard shortcut to change the volume is not working since it is changing the first control. how can i fix this?05:13
beauHey, the past few nights, after about 2 hours of working on my PC, my hard drive will start running, sounding almost like it's doing some sort of defrag, and the system rapidly starts becoming less responsive until the hard drive just runs and nothing is responsive05:14
Kovecsestuv, you in gnome:?05:14
tuvyes05:14
beaui've checked and i have plenty of space on all my drives05:14
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  looks like those are instructions on installing apache... but if your wife;s computer cannot find yours via hostname, then its another issue (most likely) like DNS05:14
pl_iceJasonOfEarth yeh, same here ..05:14
pl_iceJasonOfEarth sorry, not sure05:15
arapl_ice i do the same thing but it won't do anything it just types, i put :wq05:15
JasonOfEarthbeau: it's likely some cron job is running like locate you can see what cron jobs are set up in /etc/cron.daily05:15
beauok, i'll look now05:15
pl_iceara hit couple of times ESC then do :wq05:15
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benoyHello05:15
pl_iceesc wil get u out of write mode05:15
JasonOfEarth@pl_ice: it's just enough to know that mine is doing the normal thing I was worried it was corrupt in some way05:15
brother_of_jaredSpaceBass // perhaps my question wasn't correct.05:16
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pl_ice:)05:16
benoyDoes anyone here work with Qt for C++ gui programming?05:16
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brother_of_jaredWhat do I need to do so that she can look at a page on my system?05:16
lincolnWhere do I add a network device?05:16
arapl_ice ok now do i have to reboot to see if it works or it should work now?05:16
tuvhow can i change which mixer channel the keyboard shortcut affects in gnome?05:16
Toma-lincoln: System > Admin > Networking05:17
pl_iceara no05:17
JasonOfEarthbrother_of_jared after you've set up the apache you need her to type in your ip address... then whatever pages you have up05:17
beaubummer.. I don't quite understand the cron.daily folder05:17
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  1) what is your system's hostname ? 2) are both machines on the same network or is this via the internet? 3) from HER machine, can you ping your machine's hostname?05:17
pl_iceara umount that hd u mounted manualy, then type : sudo mount -va and check if it's mounted05:17
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brother_of_jaredJason and space //05:17
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benoyDoes anyone here work with Qt for C++ gui programming?05:18
lincolnwell that's what I thought, but the "add device" button is simply not there05:18
brother_of_jaredcool info.. umm we share the same cable modem but I am certain that things happen over the net..05:18
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tuvclosing the laptop's lid activates the screensaver. how can i disable this?05:18
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brother_of_jaredhow do I figure out my hostname and ip addy?05:18
Toma-ifconfig05:19
JasonOfEarth@brother_of_jared: ifconfig05:19
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  that sounds like the same network (IE LAN) ... and i suspect you probably do not have an internal DNS server (not uncommon), so you'll have to use IP addresses05:19
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arapl_ice are you sure it's -va?05:19
tuvrun hostname to find out the hostname05:19
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brother_of_jaredSpace cool.. how do I figure them out?05:19
Toma-tuv: System > Preferences > Screensaver05:19
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared: so in a terminal, type  (like JasonOfEarth  said) ifconfig and look for the IP address ... probably 192.186......05:19
Toma-Mode: Disable screensaver05:19
pl_iceyeh05:20
tuvToma-: i disabled the screensaver there and still closing the lid activates the screensaver05:20
benoyDoes anyone here work with Qt for C++ gui programming?05:20
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  then from her computer you should be able to go to http://<yourIP>/<yourpage>05:20
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arapl_ice please use single character options05:20
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  for instance: http://169.1.1.2/index.html05:20
Toma-tuv: look thru your xorg.conf and find "dpms" and comment out that line05:20
arapl_ice i get this error05:20
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pl_iceworks for me :)05:20
eriscoI am having a bit of trouble uploading my .php webpages via mc to my webserver. The problem is that the PHP is not seeming to work. I am saving the files as .html on my local system, then renaming them as .php on the server05:20
pl_iceara sudo mount -a05:20
Toma-tuv: that *MIGHT* work. i dont have a laptop so im not sure05:20
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eriscois this not what you are meant to do?05:20
SpaceBass(me hopes all 169.... are private)05:20
pl_icethen check if it mounted the hd05:21
Tobais that better?05:21
brother_of_jaredSo I typed in ifconfig..05:21
beauerisco it shouldn't matter05:21
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brother_of_jaredlots of info came up05:21
tuvToma-: i found some xscreensaver commands in /etc/acpi/lid.sh, but i don't know what to do with them05:21
beauwhat server are you uploading them to?05:21
eriscoi am thinking there is an actual command in mc to get the server to translate the .html to .php05:21
Toma-ahh05:21
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eriscoor, i am wondering if it is ubuntu. Even though I have my file saved as .html, ubuntu is seeing it as a php script. That is not exactly right.05:21
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brother_of_jaredAm I looking at the "inet addr" ??05:22
beauwell if ubuntu is the client, trying to read the file from the server, that shouldn't matter05:22
eriscoMy point, is that the php document needs to be made on the server, but ubuntu may not be allowing that by trying to convert it on my local system05:22
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  yeah05:22
phreak97i just had to enable "always use my fonts" in firefox, cos the site i go to most uses a font which has crapped up x's under linux05:22
arapl_ice let me IM you the error05:22
aconbereis there a place to dig up system requirements for running ubuntu (disk space in particular)?05:22
brother_of_jaredI have two different listings..05:22
phreak97i dont know what font it is though05:22
erisconever the less, when i do upload, change the extension, and try to hit the page.... it just keeps loading forever05:22
phreak97how can i find out?05:23
eriscoanyone have any clues? :\05:23
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arapl_ice check your IM05:23
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  what are they? (you are behind a NAT firewall, so sharing them here is completely safe)05:23
pashawaconbere,   2G min05:23
psusianyone here read "Understanding the Linux kernel" published by Oreilly?  picked it up the other day and it seems nice05:23
pl_iceIM ? um i don't think i put the right one in this chat mode ...05:23
Linfani have a hp laptop i justg installed ubuntu i dont see a power managment feature for mobile computers? is there one available05:23
psusierr... wrong channel...05:23
kalinhow can i install wine????05:24
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pashaw!tell kalin about wine05:24
phreak97kalin, sudo apt-get install wine05:24
phreak97?05:24
kalini've been reading the instalation guide but i don't understand05:24
Toma-tuv: have you got all the acpi installed?05:24
pl_ice!pastebin05:24
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:24
SpaceBass./open_bottle;./drink_goodstuff05:24
pl_iceara use pastebin05:24
SpaceBassohhh wrong wine05:24
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SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  ?05:24
brother_of_jaredok so she can see the page which is cool.05:24
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brother_of_jaredWhat if I don't want to use the IP address all the time?05:25
tuvToma-: what is all of the acpi, i've acpi, acpid, and acpi-support05:25
kalinmmmmmmmmmmmmm05:25
arapl_ice it's only three lines can i send in here?05:25
kalinmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm05:25
Toma-tuv: thats all05:25
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  the easiest thing to do is modify her host file...05:25
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  what OS does she have?05:25
pl_iceara use priv messages05:25
eriscommmmm?05:26
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brother_of_jaredWinblows NT I believe05:26
brother_of_jared<--- Ubuntu Breezy05:26
Toma-tuv: what kind of laptop is it?05:26
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GURTcan someone tell me how to get these Audio CD icons off of my desktop? There are no CDs in the drive..05:26
tuvToma-: vaio05:26
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SpaceBassbrother_of_jared: you may need google, but I think the host file in NT is at c:/windowsnt/system32/hosts  but I could be wrong05:27
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can-o-wormsGURT: rm ?05:27
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GURTrm?05:27
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arapl_ice you remmember at the begining of the chat you send me privarte, i just sent you the error overthere05:27
kalincould anubody explain me the instalation of WINETOOLS 0.9?05:27
can-o-wormsGURT: man rm05:27
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared: basic idea is that you add a line in the host file that lookes like: brothers_computer   192.168.1.205:27
GURTwhat is man rm?05:27
Linfanis there a program for ubuntu that handles pictures?05:27
SpaceBasswhere brothers_computer is what ever you want to use as the hostname and 192.... is your IP05:27
brother_of_jaredHow would changing a file on her system change the usage of the IP address for my pages?05:27
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared: you'd have to edit it on her system05:28
can-o-wormsGURT: take it for a spin, and find out05:28
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pashawbrother_of_jared,   just use system search  under the windows directory for  hosts05:28
GURTthat makes no sense05:28
brother_of_jaredSpaceBass // how am I going to edit everyone's system?05:28
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SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  thought it was just your wife's ?05:28
tuvToma-: i just removed the lid.sh script from /etc/acpi as i can't think of anything that i need done when i close or open the lid05:28
pashawbrother_of_jared,   she wont need your ip# anymore  she could type in your computers name and get redirected05:28
JasonOfEarth@gurt: man is the linux manual it will tell you about commands (including rm )05:28
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brother_of_jaredWell at the moment it is.. but if she goes to work it won't be.05:29
GURTthanks05:29
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Toma-tuv: you might want the screen to turn off...05:29
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SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  check out dyndns ... i suspect your router even supports it, google it for more info05:29
JasonOfEarth@linfan: gimp is the program you're looking for05:29
Linfanis it like a iphoto or picasa?05:29
GURTrm dosen't sond as if it's going to help05:29
GURTsound05:29
tuvToma-: isn't that done by the hardware/bios?05:29
brother_of_jaredso then she could ftp to my IP then?05:29
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Toma-tuv: don think so05:30
JasonOfEarth@gurt: sorry I missed your original question05:30
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  even better go to registerfly.com and buy a $9.00 domain name (assuming your IP doesnt change... often)05:30
Toma-tuv: give it a try05:30
GURTcan someone tell me how to get these Audio CD icons off of my desktop? There are no CDs in the drive..05:30
kalin=...)05:30
kalin=::)05:30
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brother_of_jaredGood idea Bass05:30
kalin=..)05:30
Linfanhow can i enable the ubuntu boot screen? all i see know is text05:30
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DotheGuruGURT, you mean the mounted drive icons?05:30
tuvToma-: will do. do i need to do any thing to make the file removal effective?05:30
phreak97gurt, you dont happen to live in adelaide do you?05:30
brother_of_jaredSo what about ftp options?05:30
Linfanor where can i dl bootscreens05:30
snowowlHow do I change my theme in Ubuntu under Gnome05:30
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GURTDotheGuru: yes05:31
kalin=')05:31
SpaceBassI think yahoo even has $2.00 domain names... but I have used registerfly.com so long I forget to check05:31
kalin='')05:31
Toma-tuv: make sure you only move it. DONT delete.05:31
bshumatesnowowl: System > Preferences > Theme05:31
GURTi can't right click and unmount because that option dosen't exist05:31
kalin=..)05:31
tuvToma-: it's in my home :)05:31
CaptainMorganis azureus supposed to be in synaptic? cuz I don't see it..05:31
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kalin=::::(05:31
kalin=..(05:31
Toma-tuv: good ;) im working on a hack for u :D05:31
bshumateLinfan: Gimp is similar to Photoshop, moreso than iPhoto05:31
tuvToma-: besides, i can always reinstall its package and get the file back, can't i05:31
dr3wsterhi, I'm having trouble installing a custom gnome panel applet.  I did configure, make install, and it worked...but now I dont' see it in the "add to panel" box. anyone have any ideas?05:31
SpaceBassbrother_of_jared:  of course, if you use a domain name you are then talking about your EXTERNAL IP not internal... to find it go to http://www.ipchicken.com05:31
phreak97how do i update gaim?05:31
FalstiusCaptainMorgan: its not there for amd64 installs05:32
tuvToma-: hmm.. interesting.. thanks ahead05:32
JasonOfEarth@gurt: it may be that the icon is actually on your desktop if so you can go into the desktop folder ~/Desktop and use rm05:32
Linfangimp is like photoshop so is there anything like iphoto for ubuntu?05:32
johnsie2kfuck05:32
kalinI WANT TO INSTALL WINE!!!!!! URGENTLY! xD05:32
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phreak97kalin, sometimes it feels like everyone has you on ignore eh?05:33
GURTJasonOfEarth: they're no actually on there05:33
tuvkalin: what's wrong with: sudo apt-get install wine?05:33
kalini'm falling onto dispair05:33
GURTJasonOfEarth: they're not in ~/Desktop05:33
beaukalin: go to digg.com and do a search for  ubuntu multimedia  ... they link to a great script that installs a lot of multimedia stuff05:33
beauand it installs wine05:33
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johnsie2kfor fuc sake my firefox keeps crashing05:33
brother_of_jaredand if I stop Apache.. no one can get in ... right?05:33
Toma-johnsie2k: no swearing thx.05:33
Linfanhow do i enable ubuntu bootscreen again?05:34
Toma-johnsie2k: why does it keep crashing? what version is it?05:34
johnsie2kfuc is not a waer05:34
beaudoes anyone else have any ideas for me?05:34
pashawbeau,  whats the script called ?05:34
beaui've checked and i have plenty of space on all my drives05:34
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beaupashaw05:34
beauautomatix05:34
beaui believe05:34
pashaw!automatix05:34
ubotuwell, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!05:34
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beau:o05:34
bshumateLinfan: check out imgSeek...it is similar to iPhoto05:34
pashawbeau, that one  plz dont recommend it05:34
Toma-automatix is dangerous.05:34
beauk :x05:34
beaui use it?05:34
beauused05:35
kalinok05:35
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SpaceBassif I'm using a live CD do I need to add local drives to /etc/fstab  or should I just be able to mount them?05:35
kalinsend me good vibrations05:35
johnsie2knot open to improvemnt? It's a friggin sh.... hardly closed source?!!!!05:35
pashawbeau,   yeah  its like the lottery some winners some losers05:35
dr3wstercould anyone please help me install this gnome applet? I really want to control rhythmbox from the desktop:(05:35
brother_of_jaredclosed the wrong tab....05:35
Toma-i used it once, made all sorts of horrible things happen05:35
kalincuse i'm desperate now05:35
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GURTcan someone tell me how to get these Audio CD icons off of my desktop? There are no CDs in the drive.. when i click on them it says Couldn't display "cdda:///dev/hdd" .. so i tried sudo umount /dev/hdd and it get and error saying that it isn't mounted05:35
johnsie2kAutmoatix rocks05:35
kalinthanks i'll see digg .,com05:35
aconbereso... my friends installation craps out during stage 2, is there anyway to restart that?05:35
beauwhy is it dangerous? maybe it has something to do with my computer locking up... but that was 2 weeks ago when i installed it05:36
nurfeIs there any easy wpa_supplicant guide available?05:36
beauHey, the past few nights, after about 2 hours of working on my PC, my hard drive will start running, sounding almost like it's doing some sort of defrag, and the system rapidly starts becoming less responsive until the hard drive just runs and nothing is responsive05:36
brother_of_jaredso stopping Apache means she won't be able to access the page?05:36
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phreak97xchat doesnt open links when you click them05:36
pashawbeau,   will you be here to fix her system  if it breaks something?05:36
phreak97they underline when you hover over them, but they dont open05:36
bshumateAutomatix stole my car, and tried to set my house on fire! ;-)05:36
phreak97how can i fix this?05:36
beauI can try pashaw05:36
johnsie2kAutmoatic is the best program for ubuntu05:36
beaubut im sorry05:36
beaui'm new, i didnt know it was a bad script05:36
beauall I know is it worked great for me and i'm glad i ran it05:37
Toma-id say synaptic is05:37
bshumate!automatix05:37
ubotuit has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!05:37
beau!automatix05:37
johnsie2khow can an sh not be open to simprovemnt??? thats a lie05:37
Toma-johnsie2k: its not gpl05:37
pashawjohnsie2k,   you trolling?05:37
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beaujohnsie2k, lets not start a fight05:37
fredforfaen!java05:37
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs05:37
johnsie2kreally sh is edibablt now?05:38
Toma-you can change it all you like. soon as you upload to someone else, you're gonna get fined05:38
nurfe!wpa05:38
ubotuhmm... wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"05:38
johnsie2kcome on05:38
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pl_icebored05:38
nurfe:/05:38
beauso does anyone have any ideas for my problem?05:38
beauHey, the past few nights, after about 2 hours of working on my PC, my hard drive will start running, sounding almost like it's doing some sort of defrag, and the system rapidly starts becoming less responsive until the hard drive just runs and nothing is responsive05:38
johnsie2kanynone can change an automatix sh in geditd05:38
nurfeI can't seem to get wpa_supplicant to work apparently it installs fine... I just can't get it to dhcp05:38
aconbereany way to restart the 2nd stage process without starting over05:38
Toma-ahh it is gpl05:38
beaui have to do a hard shut down05:38
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dr3wsterso nobody here has a clue about what to do with a simple applet install?!05:39
DotheGuruyes05:39
DotheGuruinstall gdesklets05:39
SEJeffand gdesklets-data05:39
Toma-beau: have you run "top" as soon as it starts running weird?05:39
tuvthe first channel in the mixer isn't the one controlling the volume, so keyboard shortcuts for volume change aren't working05:40
dr3wsterDotheGuru, thanks05:40
phreak97god damn i wish the toilet wasnt next to this room.. smeels like ass hiding behind flowers05:40
beau!top05:40
ubotubeau: Not a clue05:40
phreak97smells*05:40
Linfanany power managemnt feature for ubuntu im on a laptop and the battery feels like it is being sucked dry05:40
beauno. :)05:40
johnsie2kAutmoatix is the mising link for Ubuntu... wihtout automatcix ubiuntu is crap05:40
beaufill me in Toma05:40
pl_icebeau my just shuts down :)05:40
Toma-beau: in a terminal. on your computer.05:40
pl_icew/o hd running05:40
beauwell, what does it do? i know how to run commands :P05:40
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Toma-it tells you wants using resources05:40
beauice: random programs shut down for me too05:40
Linfani downloaded wpasupplicant now what do i do?05:40
beauoh i gotcha Toma05:40
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johnsie2klike I'm gonna sit down for 5 hours  and install that crap manuually when automatix does it05:41
Linfanwhere do i go to configure it05:41
beauit starts locking up too soon05:41
beaubut05:41
beauthis time i've got the system monitor up05:41
beaufor when it happens again05:41
beau(and trust me, it will happen again)05:41
pashaw!enter05:41
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!05:41
Toma-well keep top up and running. ALSO, pop open another term, and run "tail -f /var/log/messages"05:41
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fredforfaen!mp305:42
ubotuhmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:42
beaupashaw, were you trying to tell me something?05:42
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tuvLinfan: read its documentation!05:42
johnsie2kautomatix is the essential software that ubunto is miising05:42
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beaujohnsie2k, are you some kind of robot?05:42
Linfanhow? where do i get it from05:42
johnsie2kno05:42
beauwell then chill on it ok?05:42
johnsie2kso why flame me?05:42
Toma-johnsie2k: well file a bug and tell them to get it into dapper. no point wasting your time in a help channel.05:42
Linfaniwhere do i go to access it?05:42
aconbereSo... if the 2nd stage of the installation fails... you just give up?05:42
johnsie2ka good program is a good program05:43
fredforfaenis this down ? -->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:43
Toma-aconbere: cant you restart?05:43
aconbereis there a way to target the CD to install specific resources?05:43
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tuvLinfan: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant05:43
beauI'm not flaming you man, remember? i like it.. but it's obviously caused a lot of people problems, and these guys would know... so just respect the channel and dont mention it05:43
aconbereToma-: yes, but that doesn't get me back to adding all the default packages.05:43
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johnsie2kautomatix helps people duh05:43
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Toma-i mean, restart the install?05:43
SpaceBassI'm trying to use a live CD to repair my grub ... I can mount my hda1 but its read only so I cannot run grub-install05:43
SpaceBassanyone have an idea?05:43
Toma-johnsie2k: like i said. no point wasting your time here05:43
SpaceBasshda1 is NTFS05:44
johnsie2khelp room... automatix helps people05:44
Toma-SpaceBass: you need to chroot to your linux partition05:44
pashawjohnsie2k,   your about to get the boot05:44
phreak97whats the best audio player (looking for something like winamp)?05:44
DotheGuruxmms is similar to winamp05:44
johnsie2kfor saying automatix is good?05:44
Toma-phreak97: you want something that works or something that looks fancy?05:44
fredforfaeni cant accsess the wiki??? pls help05:44
sampanphreak97  xmms, beep are both winamp-alike05:44
tuvphreak97: amarok05:44
johnsie2kwe're all entitked to an opinion05:44
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aconbereToma-: I can restart the install but it takes a pretty long to get through stage 1, so restarting is a bit of a pain, and if all the base install works I don't see why there shouldn't be a way to get packages off the CD.05:45
Toma-johnsie2k: stfu plz :)05:45
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DotheGurui too use amarok05:45
SpaceBassToma-:  how does chroot work? I understand its a special shell, but am worried about data loss05:45
johnsie2kwhy?05:45
pashawjohnsie2k,  your clearly above the level of this channel   have a good night05:45
thoreauputicjohnsie2k: enough, please05:45
johnsie2kim helping people05:45
sethkSpaceBass, it isn't a shell05:45
sethkSpaceBass, it changes the meaning of / for a context05:45
pl_icefredforfaen my doesn't open, yet ...05:45
sethkSpaceBass, so you won't lose anything just by doing a chroot05:45
Toma-SpaceBass: chroot tells the live cd shell to "move" its focus to your partition. effectively, making your system boot from the live cd.05:45
sethkSpaceBass, of course, deleting is dangerous, but not more dangerous than normal05:45
tuvguys, how to control which mixer channel is affected by the keyboard shortcuts that change the volume?05:46
Linfanok i went to usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant but i dont see anything for me to read05:46
johnsie2ksheesh05:46
Toma-SpaceBass: chroot wont make you loose anything, unless you do anything silly after you chroot05:46
fredforfaenpl_ice thanx05:46
Toma-johnsie2k: who are you helping specifically?05:46
SpaceBassahhh so I need a USB key, or partition, etc that is free05:46
phreak97i want something that looks ok, but has functionality as first priority05:46
johnsie2kpeople who wanrt to install a load of apps quickly05:46
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phreak97which of those three fits the description?05:46
tuvLinfan: you can read README.gz and what's in examples directory05:46
sethkSpaceBass, to do a chroot, you need a root file system.  Not an empty one.05:46
Toma-johnsie2k: no-one needs its at the moment do they?05:46
saotome_hi guys05:46
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GoldfischSpaceBass: if you chroot to an empty file folder, all you will see is nothing!05:47
saotome_after spending some hours of my life which i'll never get back, i discovered that version 4.1.12 has issues with prepared statements05:47
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saotome_attempting to install 5.0 (on ubuntu), bu getting the following error05:47
johnsie2khow do u know though? some people might benefit from the apps05:47
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Toma-Goldfisch: actually, you cant chroot to an empty partition. it looks for /bin/bash before it swaps over05:47
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beaujohnsie... come on05:47
saotome_Could not find help file 'fill_help_tables.sql' in ./support-files or inside /usr.05:47
SpaceBassI'm just trying to recover a windows bootable partition... blew away my ubuntu partition... was hoping I could use a live CD to repair grub05:47
beauyou're even getting on my nerves now05:47
saotome_can anyone offer me some advice?05:48
johnsie2kcome on what?05:48
Toma-SpaceBass: OH. you want woindows to work? no more ubuuntu?05:48
GoldfischSpaceBass: Some people use chroot to install a 32-bit root partition inside a 64-bit environment. That way, they can 32-bit apps while running a 64-bit CPU.05:48
SpaceBassI don't have anywhere I can mount a filesystem to to use chroot05:48
Linfanwhoa it says something about needing to build a config i dont know how to do that shit05:48
beaucan someone kick him?  he's definitely not here for help and is not helping05:48
pashawfredforfaen,   page finally loaded05:48
johnsie2kautomatix turned my os into somewthing decent05:48
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thoreauputicjohnsie2k: please stop being annoyingly repetitious or you'll be gaged05:48
thoreauputic*gagged05:48
SpaceBassToma-:  bought a box for ubuntu... dont need to dual boot05:48
beausounds kinky05:48
johnsie2kstop flaiming me for ahving an opinion05:48
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beauthis isn't an opinion channel05:48
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Toma-SpaceBass: sooper. is it windows xp?05:48
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thoreauputicjohnsie2k: you were warned05:49
saotome_again05:49
SpaceBassToma-:  yeah, XP... and I've tried the windows recovery console and fixboot and fixmbr ... still tries to load grub05:49
Toma-hmmm05:49
saotome_having an error while attempting to install 5.005:49
saotome_Could not find help file 'fill_help_tables.sql' in ./support-files or inside /usr.05:49
saotome_can someone help?05:49
Toma-so you want grub to load windows? :D05:49
tuvLinfan: that's why there is an examples dir.. besides, there is a simple config already in /etc/wpasupplicant05:49
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pashawsaotome_,  5.0???   you mean 5.10 breezy?05:49
saotome_i am running breezy05:49
Toma-SpaceBass: you need at least 1 linux system to use grub. unless you get the windows version of grub i spose...05:49
GoldfischSounds like he is trying to ditch ubuntu+grub+whatever to get it back to speaking windoze.05:49
saotome_but i meant mysql 6.005:50
saotome_5.0*05:50
SpaceBassToma-:  frankly I don't care which bootloader does it, but currently grub is there and I cannot get rid of it05:50
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Toma-SpaceBass: i see.05:50
CARNAGESpaceBass: Wich boot loader do you want to use ?05:50
sethkSpaceBass, you can easily get rid of it, but why would you want to?05:50
SpaceBassToma-: well, preferably I'd remove grub in favor of the windows bootloader...05:50
pashawsaotome_,  MYSQL 5.0 can still only be installed by compiling   per the wiki05:50
Toma-sethk: hes got no linux partition. only need windows.05:50
tuvguys, how to control which mixer channel is affected by the keyboard shortcuts that change the volume?05:50
SpaceBasssethk:  b/c my system won't boot05:51
saotome_i can't use the binary?05:51
CARNAGESpaceBass: Boot with the Windows XP CD press r for repair console and type /fixmbr /fixboot05:51
pashawsaotome_,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP05:51
sethkSpaceBass, you want to put the windows boot loader back on, you can05:51
tuvSpaceBass: to remove grub, look at freedos bootable cd05:51
tonyyarussoDo any of the movie players allow you to zoom in to point out details?05:51
SpaceBassCARNAGE:  no dice... done that 10 times (or more)05:51
sethkSpaceBass, hmm., then odds are there is damage to your ntfs partition05:51
CARNAGESpaceBass: I have done that many many time it always worked Oo05:51
SpaceBassCARNAGE: likewise05:51
sethkSpaceBass, anytime the fix boot has failed, it has always turned out that some crucial file was missing on the ntfs partition05:52
Toma-SpaceBass: whats the error when you "fixmbr"?05:52
SpaceBasssethk: oddly enough the live ubuntu will mount the NTFS part and it appears intact05:52
CARNAGESpaceBass: strange05:52
saotome_ooohh great05:52
saotome_this is gonna be fun!05:52
SpaceBassToma-:  no error for fixmbr05:52
pashawsaotome_,   :)05:52
sethkSpaceBass, that's doubly odd, since grub is grub05:52
saotome_thx, let me see if i can survive this05:52
Toma-and fixboot?05:52
saotome_i will probably be back a dozen of times asking very stupid questions05:52
SpaceBassjust an error with grub on boot (-17)05:52
sethkhe gets no errors, it just doesn't fix05:52
pl_icebye bye05:52
tuvsaotome_: did you watch the Ranma 1/2 anime??05:52
SpaceBassno errors at all in the windows recovery console... just doesnt work05:52
sethkSpaceBass, have you reinstalled grub onto the mbr?05:53
saotome_yep!05:53
saotome_LOL!!05:53
sethkSpaceBass, for some reason it isn't restoring the actually boot loader which windows places in the two sectors preceding the first partition05:53
saotome_you are the first person ever that knows the origin of the name!05:53
SpaceBasssethk:  no, that's what I was hoping to do with the live cd, but I get permission denied when I do: sudo grub-install /dev/hda05:53
sethkSpaceBass, don't do it that way.  just run the grub shell and do it from there05:53
tuvpeople.. please.. how to control which mixer channel is affected by the keyboard shortcuts that change the volume?05:53
saotome_tuv: my first name is similar to saotome's first name, my friends gave me that nickname, a long time ago05:54
phreak97im installing beep05:54
SpaceBasssethk:  i'm not proficent in grub at all... so I don't know about the shell, et al ... can I do that from the live CD? b/c at this point grub doesnt even load on boot... just errors out05:54
tuvsaotome_: cool05:54
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sethkSpaceBass, sure, you can do it from the cd.  You'll need a proper grub configuration file (even if you won't be using it when you boot)05:55
tuvsaotome_: hope there is no panda involved.. just an attempted joke05:55
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sethkSpaceBass, basically, you only need two commands in the grub shell05:55
sethkSpaceBass, one is root, like:    root (hd0,0)05:55
sethkSpaceBass, and the other is boot:     boot (hd0)05:55
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SpaceBassgotcha... but I need a config file first? or that generates the config file?05:55
mcjerrySpaceBass: when grub before grub errors out look to see if it gives you option to skip to command line and rerun grub setup05:55
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sethkSpaceBass, you need a config file and a grub directory05:56
DotheGuruGurt, if you are still around05:56
phreak97beep doesnt recognise my cd drive properly05:56
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GURTi am05:56
phreak97what do i do?05:56
DotheGurui figured out the solution05:56
GURToh?05:56
SpaceBasssethk:  so do I pull the file from a working ubuntu box?05:56
bshumateSpaceBass: this should be fixable via the Windoze recovery cd :  boot cd, choose recovery (r), select windows instance, login, then at prompt, type : bootcfg /rebuild    it will scan for windows installations again, and present  a list.  in your case, just one entry should appear.  it will ask if you want the installation added to the boot list.  Answer with Y.  Reboot, and your machine should be back in the corporate opressive mode again (i.e. booting W05:56
aconberedoes anyone know what this command does ? "dpkg --configure -a"05:56
sethkSpaceBass, that's a good way to do it.05:56
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GURTDotheGuru: i'm all ears05:56
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DotheGurufind your configuation editor05:57
sethkSpaceBass, but you also need a grub directory.05:57
GoldfischROFL05:57
sethkSpaceBass, you don't have linux anywhere on the hard disk?05:57
sethkSpaceBass, you wiped out what you installed?05:57
SpaceBassbshumate: i hate to say I've tried that at least 7 or 8 times tonight05:57
Toma-aconbere: run "man dpkg"05:57
SpaceBasssethk:  not on that drive, no05:57
RemmyHi all, I have an Athlon 64 X2, but with the amd64 generic kernel only one core is used. When I boot the smp kernel, it hangs as it won't read my sata2 disks... what should I do?05:57
DotheGurushould be a red car05:57
GURTok05:57
GURTopened05:57
DotheGurugo to apps05:57
SpaceBasssethk: it was a moment of not thinking..... at all...05:58
GURTok05:58
DotheGuruthen nautulus05:58
sethkSpaceBass, reinstall a minimal system.05:58
GoldfischRemmy: Well...you may have to build your own. I thought I heard bad things about the stock kernel's regarding AMD64 and SMP.05:58
GURTok05:58
DotheGuruyou should see "show mounted....something"05:58
DotheGuruuncheck it05:58
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aconbereToma-: I'm asking becuase this is what we are told to run when trying to apt-get a package.  dpkg them errors out with a dbus error05:58
SpaceBassfrankly if I can recover the files then I'd be fine... but since I make use of NTFS security and dynamic disks I'm worried that installing a minimail install will not help05:58
RemmyGoldfisch: What is the best way togo about it though? Get the "generic" source and only hit the SMP switch?05:58
bshumateSpaceBass: if that doesn't work, then you can force grub to boot from the windoze partition, with these commands at the grub> prompt (upon a fresh reboot) :  grub>  rootnoverify (hd0,0)  grub> makeactive grub> chainloader +1 grub> boot05:58
GURTvolumes_visible ?05:59
thoreauputicaconbere: that command reconfigures the whole base system05:59
sethkSpaceBass, can't hurt.  :)05:59
GoldfischRemmy: Yeah, I guess so. I have had to build kernels in the past for other reasons. Are you experienced in that?05:59
DotheGuruya05:59
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GURTbut taht will make it so they Never show up.. i just want these empty ones to go away untill i put a disc in again.. then when i remove the disc i want the icons to go away05:59
thoreauputicaconbere: which means apt thinks your system is borked05:59
bluefoxicyok so05:59
bluefoxicyQuestion05:59
DotheGuruoh05:59
DotheGuruhm05:59
RemmyGoldfisch: I have built them myself in the past, but would like tokeep a nice .deb out of it05:59
bluefoxicyHow many releases is it going to take05:59
pashawaconbere,   what package are you trying to apt-get05:59
bluefoxicybefore the ubuntu developers realize. . . . . . . . . . . . .05:59
aconberethoreauputic: which it is :) becuase it crashes trying to do the 2nd stage.06:00
DotheGurutry it06:00
mcjerryRemmy: what kernel ver do you have? there were some issues with not recognizing sata2 a while back06:00
SpaceBassbshumate:  grub doesnt load, it errors out so I cannot get a prompt :(06:00
GoldfischRemmy: You may want to double check if SMP is supported at this point in time on AMD64. AMD64 doesn't exactly have 100% support yet.06:00
DotheGuruthen check it afterwards06:00
bluefoxicy. . . . . . that xfs_freeze on a device, followed by trying to access that device, deadlocks the system?06:00
aconberepashaw: well I tried openssh-server and gnome-taskbar06:00
GoldfischRemmy: Have you used make-kpkg to build .deb's for your kernels?06:00
phreak97ok, how do i play audio cd's?06:00
bluefoxicyi.e. when you try to install grub06:00
bluefoxicyon xfs06:00
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bluefoxicyfrom the install cd06:00
thoreauputicaconbere: well, try the command and answer the questions then :)06:00
SpaceBasssethk:  yeah- that is my plan e (I'e been through a - d)06:00
bluefoxicyand it goes, "Let me lock myself up."06:00
pashawaconbere, ??  did you do a server install?06:00
kalinhow can i open an executable file (.exe) in ubuntu???06:00
Remmymcjerry: This waswith 2.6.12-9 for amd-k8-smp06:00
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RemmyGoldfisch: No I haven't... is there documentation on that somewhere?06:01
bluefoxicySee what I do, I say "no bootloader," install grub in /target, run 'grub-install (hd0)' (which oddly needs ot be killed because it's a shitty script and it locks up) followed by 'grub', which I tell to "root (hd0,0)" and "setup (hd0)"06:01
bluefoxicyand it works.06:01
bluefoxicythis tells me 3 things06:01
bluefoxicy1)  A retard wrote grub-install06:01
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aconberethis is the error that dpkg --configure -a gives "bus error: over-current on port 1"06:01
Darkshrimphey, i just want to know, does ubuntu help you to partition, or do you need to get something else to partition a drive out for ubuntu06:01
phreak97sampan, i installed xmms and beep, neith play my cd's06:01
phreak97neither06:02
kalinplease how can i open an executable file (.exe)06:02
bluefoxicy2)  A retard decided to freeze a file system before accessing it so that the kernel blocks (xfs_unfreeze exists on the frozen filesystem, but nowhere else)06:02
tuvkalin: install wine06:02
phreak97sound juicer does, but its hardly a practical media player06:02
bluefoxicy3)  You can actually make grub-install work if you know what you're doing06:02
kalini have wine06:02
DotheGuruDarkshrimp, are you using a live Cd?06:02
mcjerryRemmy: 2.6.12-9 caused problems with me here with amd64 not dual core.....both 64 and 32 mode problems seeing sata correctly.....fixed in 2.6.1506:02
GoldfischRemmy: Read this http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en Makes building kernels a snap.06:02
kalini already have wine06:02
bluefoxicyphreak97:  rhythmbox06:02
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SpaceBassbshumate ... sethk   everyone... thanks for the ides... going to call it a night and try tomorrow06:02
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tuvkalin: if you want to run an exe file, just do: wine abc.exe06:02
lmsilvaDarkshrimp: the setup will let you configure partitions06:02
pashawaconbere,   did apt-get install openssh-server  finish?06:02
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bluefoxicyDarkshrimp:  it'll let you partition, destructively.06:03
Remmymcjerry: I don't see that one in my list with packages?06:03
aconberepashaw: I didn't do a server install I figured that an ssh daemon is fairly standard affair for any machine.06:03
RemmyGoldfisch: Thanks, will read.06:03
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mcjerryRemmy: you breezy still?06:03
Remmymcjerry: If that's 5.10,yes06:03
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Darkshrimpbluefoxicy: what you mean destructively06:03
aconberepashaw: it won't run, it wants me to run dpkg --configure -a, which gives this bus error "over-current on port 1"06:03
mcjerryRemmy: you got a dual boot windows setup?06:03
lmsilvaDarkshrimp: if you've got no free space you need to repartition and that will erase the existing partitions... you should get something like Partition Magic to resize06:03
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DotheGuruwhat about gparted?06:04
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bluefoxicyDarkshrimp:  I mean if your drive is 100% windows, you delete windows first.06:04
Remmymcjerry: Newp, not on this machine06:04
bluefoxicyDotheGuru:  do it from the livecd and you can try that.06:04
DotheGurui was helping him06:04
DotheGuruheh06:04
phreak97bluefoxicy, rhythmbox opens sound juicer for audio cd's06:04
can-o-wormswhat do you need to add to vimrc to get some colour?06:04
tuvpeople.. please.. how to control which mixer channel is affected by the keyboard shortcuts that change the volume?.. if no one can answer this, could some one suggest a channel to ask this question?06:04
phreak97lol i think i know why i get no sound06:04
GoldfischI hate to say this, but I have never seen a product quite like Partition Magic anywhere else. That application is great for one thing, shuffling partitions around like a deck of cards.06:04
phreak97its trying to use analogue adudio06:04
phreak97audio*06:04
sethkGoldfisch, why do you hate to say it?06:04
phreak97and i dont have the cable plugged in06:05
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phreak97can i reconfigure that?06:05
can-o-wormsGoldfisch: have you tried parted, i haven't, but it is supposed to be a clone06:05
ideafix"regsvr32 /u shimgvw.dll"06:05
lmsilvaguys hello, has anyone tried FreePascal and Lazarus? I'm having trouble recompiling Lazarus with GTK2 in my Breezy06:05
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Darkshrimpbluefoxicy: but i have about 40gb left on my harddrive06:05
GoldfischWell, compared to any open source solutions, like gparted, etc. All these other tools require you to unmount paritions etc before you move them. They are frontends for the resize tools. Partition Magic does the same thing without making you worry about that at all (and it is a windoze app).06:06
DotheGurugparted, darkshrimp06:06
mcjerryRemmy: If you want, I'd personally make a backup image of your current install and try changing sources to 6.04 dapper and apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade and get current kernel.....06:06
kalinhow can i open a .exe file with wine?06:06
phreak97just figured it out myself06:06
Toma-kalin: "wine windows.exe"06:06
skonkalin: man wine06:06
pashawaconbere,   type   ps -ale | grep ssh06:06
Linfanwhere do i drop system sounds i downloaded of gnome-look.org and what file type does ubuntu need for them to work?06:06
sethkGoldfisch, indeed, it's an excellent program.  I still don't understand why you hate to say it.06:06
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mcjerryRemmy: then if doesn't fix sata2 prob you could fall back on backup image06:06
kalinuhmmmm06:06
Remmymcjerry: I'll try that then I think... thanks :)06:06
kalinok i'll try06:06
pashawaconbere,   do you see sshd06:06
trivistiuscould anyone lend a hand enabling onboard sound for a a7s333. i think i'm supposed to use ALSA, but i'm not familiar with it at all06:06
Goldfischsethk: BECAUSE IT'S NOT AVAILABLE ON LINUX.06:07
skonGoldfisch: PartitionCommander does just as good a job, for a smaller price06:07
aconberepashaw: but I mean... I just want to install anything I know how to administer a *nix machine.06:07
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sethkGoldfisch, so?06:07
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Goldfischsethk: I don't have any windows machines here at home, so I can't use it.06:07
ideafixlinux is evil I tell u06:07
pashawaconbere,   using your command is not normal    if you want more background  google will help06:07
sethkGoldfisch, not true.  I have bootable media with partition magic.  No need whatsoever for windows06:07
ideafixMUAHHAhaha06:07
trivistiusthe onboard sound card uses a  C-Media CMI8738 according to asus.06:08
aconberepashaw: I don't want to run it, but ubuntu's base install won't let my run apt-get without running dpkg --configure -a06:08
pashawaconbere,   ok  now your asking a different question06:08
aconbereit's not like I'm clamouring to run dpkg, I would love to have a working full blown system, but I don't06:08
mcjerryRemmy: I also remember seeing some posts i think was on bugzilla.ubuntu.com about sata issues06:08
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aconberepashaw: no I'm not I'm asking the same question I have been :)06:08
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pashawaconbere,   apt-get update doesnt work at all?06:08
aconberepashaw: no, the install crashes consistently in the middle of the 2nd stage06:09
aconberewhich means I'm missing some key packages06:09
aconbereI want to install those packages06:09
aconbereand move on06:09
Remmymcjerry: Prolly the last time I buy me modern stuff, hehe... couldn't get Mandriva to install at all06:09
aconberebut I can't for whatever reason06:09
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thoreauputicaconbere: have you tried doing a server install, then doing sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?06:09
pashawaconbere,   ??? the install never finished?06:09
aconberepashaw: no06:10
saotome_checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables06:10
saotome_ok, aparently i did not have gcc, i donwloaded the package06:10
aconberepashaw: and there doesn't seem to be a way to restart at the second stage06:10
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saotome_but now the installation is giving me this error06:10
kalini don't understand i have my .exe file in my desktop but it doesn't open06:10
thoreauputicsaotome_:  sudo apt-get install build-essentail06:10
mcjerryRemmy: don't think is smp prob...but could be wrong.....what happened here was I have 2 sata drives and went from 2.6.12-7 to 2.6.12-9 and 2nd sata would not detect in ubuntu but when i went to 2.6.12-10 it worked fine06:10
saotome_am i missing a dependency for gcc?06:10
thoreauputic*essential06:10
thoreauputicsaotome_: see above06:10
kalinwith wine06:10
aconberethoreauputic: no I haven't do you suppose that might work better?06:10
pashawaconbere,  well  you went from this> pashaw: well I tried openssh-server and gnome-taskbar  to  install failing06:10
thoreauputicsaotome_: you need "build-essential"06:10
trivistiusor maybe someone could tell me how to edit  '/etc/modules.conf' to add config options for ALSA, it doesn't seem to exist in ubuntu?06:10
mcjerryRemmy: so you could look for more current 2.6.12-x in curent packages to see before changing too dapper...06:11
aconberepashaw: nah you just missed some sections06:11
thoreauputicaconbere: worth a try :)06:11
Remmymcjerry: In my case it would not even boot, said it could not open /dev/sda1 for writing (!?)06:11
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AmaranthRemmy: dapper?06:11
Remmymcjerry: I just dl'ed 2.6.1506:11
RemmyAmaranth: Breezy till now06:11
Amaranth2.6.15 in dapper has that error too06:11
Linfancan somebody please tell me what i need to do so that i can use my wifi button to turn it on and off-the led is not showing so i dont know if its on or off06:11
saotome_this keeps getting better and better06:11
saotome_E: Couldn't find package build-essentail06:11
Amaranthsudo apt-get install build-essential06:11
RemmyAmaranth: Oh joy :(06:11
saotome_ooh wait06:11
Linfansomebody please tell me what i need to download06:11
GoldfischRemmy: I would hate to do a full-blown dist-upgrade just to try a kernel out. I would rather build one, give it a whirl to see if it works instead.06:12
mcjerryRemmy: what fs is root part?06:12
lmsilvaguys hello, has anyone tried FreePascal and Lazarus? I'm having trouble recompiling Lazarus with GTK2 in my Breezy06:12
pashawaconbere,   thoreauputic's suggestion is a good idea to try if desktop install keeps failing06:12
AmaranthLinfan: I don't think you can just download something and have it work.06:12
Remmymcjerry: The sda one, 0,0,006:12
saotome_ok... building...06:12
Linfanso what do i need to do?06:12
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RemmyGoldfisch: Perhaps you're right... hmmm06:12
garryI see that in order to send a /say I have to send all those /msg commands to the nickserver every day, Ie, I have to re-register every day eh?06:13
Linfaneven my mute button is not lighting up06:13
pashawgarry,   you can put your nick and password in your irc client06:13
trivistiusno one familiar with 5.10 support for sound cards that aren't autodetected?06:14
Amaranth!sound06:14
saotome_i understand this is a headache06:14
ubotumethinks sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary06:14
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saotome_i friend of my told me a very scary story about this one06:14
saotome_checking for termcap functions library... configure: error: No curses/termcap library found06:14
kalini tried with wine abc.exe but my file didn't open06:14
garryPlease don't send me tells when you know I can't reply. I did put my nick and password in the client.06:14
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mcjerrywonders why it is so busy here tonight?06:14
saotome_now what?06:14
Corrupteri have a big question06:14
GoldfischWhere can I set up nickserv user passwords in X-Chat? I looked for that before, but was unsuccessful.06:14
kalinit appears cannot find file abc.exe06:14
crimsunsaotome_: install libncurses5-dev06:15
saotome_mcjerry: guess a lot of people are having trouble with mysql06:15
Linfanwhat file type does ubuntu use for system sounds? and also where do i drop them06:15
AmaranthGoldfisch: edit the server06:15
crimsunLinfan: .wav06:15
bshumatethoreauputic: sorry.06:15
crimsunLinfan: /usr/share/sounds/06:15
Linfancool06:15
thoreauputicbshumate: it's OK :)06:15
ilba7rinstalling ndiswrapper and the broadcom wireless drives is hell :(06:15
garryI tried it Goldfisch and it registered with the last three letters of my nick cut off, but acted as if it registered.06:15
Corruptercan anybody help me?06:15
crimsunCorrupter: don't ask to ask06:16
nalioth_zZzCorrupter: dont ask to ask.06:16
sethkCorrupter, not unless you ask a question06:16
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thoreauputicbshumate: if you have a question it is better to ask in channel - you have nearly 600 people who might help :)06:16
pashawsaotome_,   why are you stuck on using that version of MySQL?   curious06:16
Corrupteryes, well, whenever i actually ASK, everyone ignores me, so i figured i'd get peoples attention first this time06:16
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kalinmy .exe file doesn't open with wine!!!!!!!06:16
Corrupteri had a icon on my desktop that will not delete, even though it's already deleted06:16
Toma-anyone know any cool mmorpg's for linux?06:16
nalioth_zZzCorrupter: refresh your desktop06:16
Corrupterhow?06:17
thoreauputicCorrupter: they aren't ignoring you - they might not have an answer, and the channel is busy06:17
lmsilvaplz any guidance on recompiling Lazarus under GTK2??06:17
Corrupteri don't mean right now, i've just had a lot of things that people have literally ignored06:17
ideafixwhat is lazarus ?06:17
GoldfischHooray! It works. I got X-Chat nickserv passwords configured. :)06:17
thoreauputicCorrupter: try killall nautilus - it respawns06:17
kalinplease tell me... my .exe fle doesn't open with wine06:17
trivistiuslike me06:17
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garryThat was my question what is lazarus.06:17
kalinit disn't find the file06:17
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lmsilvaideafix: Lazarus is a Linux RAD very much like Delphi in Windows (Pascal-based RAD)06:18
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dotchadi unzipped firefox then tried to run it, but this occours: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libs tdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:18
mcjerrysaotome_: you any good at sql query to update from excel cvs each day to add new from cvs and delete from mysql if not in daily cvs?06:18
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dotchadhalp pls06:18
bshumatethoreauputic: not a question, rather an observation for improvement to ubotu's reference on ntfs.  having observed the channel all day, the subject of ntfs writing is a faq, and if one could "!ntfs" or "tell foo about ntfs" and it include the disclaimer that ntfs writing under Linux is dangerous, it would be an improvement over ubotu's current answer on the subject...that is all. ;-)06:18
Corrupterwell, that worked, thanks06:18
Toma-lmsilva: how are you compiling it? and are you getting any errors?06:18
sethkdotchad, install it with synaptic06:18
crimsundotchad: install libstdc++506:18
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ideafixi though its was something like the bible reading thing06:18
krazykitso, how could i remove gaim via aptitude?  it keeps telling me ubuntu-desktop breaks if i do.  i want to install the new beta, but i'd rather not have both binaries on there06:18
dotchadi saw at synaptic, seems the version 6 is installed06:19
thoreauputicbshumate: OK thanks for the observation :)06:19
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sethkkrazykit, install the new and then uninstall the current06:19
dotchadanyway, i need the v5?06:19
lmsilvaToma: basically the fonts look horrible and I read that I must rebuild it (from inside the program) using GTK2 libs....06:19
crimsundotchad: yes06:19
dotchad;o06:19
TupperQuick question... installed Ubuntu DVD on a HP ze2000 laptop, and it installed fine after I installed some ATI drivers.  However, now whenever I boot, I get into Gnome and it crashes out to console logon, does nothing for about 3 seconds, then says that my PC has overheated to 144C... mind you that it has been off for about 3 hours now.  Any ideas?06:19
Toma-inside the program?!06:19
dotchadil try06:19
krazykitsethk: um... i was gonna just build it... it wasn't going to be in apt06:19
sethkdotchad, I didn't say to use synaptic to install the library.  I said to use synaptic to install firefox06:19
ideafixstop spaming06:19
kalin=..(06:19
bshumatethoreauputic: sure thing.06:19
kalin=..(06:19
lmsilvaToma: so I downloaded the libs and GTK2 for Pascal but don't know how to let Lazarus see them... I'm getting "can't find gtk2pixbuf"06:19
kalin=..(06:19
sethkkrazykit, then you do have to install the library, which you'll also find in synaptic06:19
dotchadseth_k|lappy, 1,5?06:19
ideafixstop spamming06:20
Toma-lmsilva: you need the -dev packages06:20
krazykitsethk: ok, thanks06:20
Toma-I gotta go, bbl.06:20
dotchadsethk, 1.5?06:20
sethkTupper, fry eggs on the computer?06:20
TupperTried that ;x06:20
TupperNo dice.06:20
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sethkdotchad, 1.5 what?06:20
kalinhelp!!!!06:20
TupperIt is definitely not actually running at 144C.  My case would have melted.06:20
kalinwine cannot find my .exe file06:21
sethkTupper, what does the bios say about the temperature?06:21
TupperNormal temps, around 60 max06:21
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crimsunTupper: probably an ACPI issue, try booting with it disabled.06:21
GoldfischTupper: Must be that kteacooker application. It is hooked into real temperature sensors. :)06:21
thoreauputic!tell bshumate about ntfs06:21
sethkTupper, hmm.  you'll have to turn off the temperature protection06:21
thoreauputicbshumate: better?06:21
TupperIs that a boot switch?06:21
Tupperoption rather06:21
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nekostar dont call me a *itch@!@@06:21
dotchadcrimsun, pwned!! :D thanks a lot06:21
nekostarhehe06:21
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pashawkalin,  the wine forums or channel might be a better place for that question06:22
sethkTupper, I'm not sure whether there is a boot switch for it.  There are kernel compile options.  I think if you disable power control, then you also disable the temperature sensing, but I'm not certain06:22
garryThe only time I ever got a wine issue where the file was not found was when I wanted to just copy a huge game instead of installing it via wine all over again and doing 2 hours of re-dowloading patches I already had. I would rather copy it over, but such is wine, tis bitter sometimes.06:22
RemmyThanks for the help Goldfisch, mcjerry and Amaranth ... going to give it all a try...06:22
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GoldfischRemmy: ;)06:22
krazykitsethk: err.... which library would that be?  the one i need to install to remove the gaim packages...06:22
TupperAck, that'd mess with my AC\battery statuses won't it?06:22
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kalinhow can i get to that forum man?06:22
mcjerrygoodluck06:22
nofearhey i got a stupid question.    I am on a satilite connection and i got a idiot for a brother who downloads alot.. and I want to set up a box using ubuntu to shair internet connections but I want to cap downloads to a certain speed.   is that possible?06:22
saotome_i'm looking at the 'INSTALL-SOURCE' file, which gives me a list of the common instalation options, but i think there is another list i can look at06:22
WeBDsIgNNeRWhere can I find a Partition Logic Tutorial?06:23
saotome_i need to choose default storage engine, active ndb, and stuff like tat06:23
saotome_need to check out the configure script options06:23
Goldfischkalin: Go to www.google.com and type "linux wine forum". Worth a shot, ehh?06:23
binarydigitnofear: yes it is06:23
sethknofear, yes, it's possible06:23
binarydigitnofear: take a look at ipcop, for the easiest way06:23
nofeargot any sites i could read up on so i can attempt it?06:23
WeBDsIgNNeRWhere can I find a Partition Logic Tutorial?06:24
kalinok man thanks a lot06:24
krazykitWeBDsIgNNeR: google?06:24
nofearipcop? i'll search that on google06:24
GoldfischDoesn't the kernel support network traffic shaping? Is that what he is looking for?06:24
saotome_yeah, was about to say that06:24
saotome_can't go wrong with google06:24
pashawnofear,     and squid06:24
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nofearIt's just so fustrating being on a sat connection... my brother likes to download porn and get's us FAP'ed all the time.06:24
WeBDsIgNNeR[krazykit] : yeah but no in portuguese06:25
WeBDsIgNNeR:/06:25
saotome_where can i find a list with the options for the configure script (installing mysql source)06:25
saotome_nofear: question06:25
pashawsaotome_,   google   mysql install source06:25
saotome_how does the uplink work?06:25
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saotome_i mean, i know the satelite sends to your receiver for downstream06:25
saotome_but how does the upstream work?06:25
nofearI've uploaded at 45Kb/sec once.06:25
nofeari have 256kbit for my upload.06:26
crimsunnofear: use 'tc'06:26
nofear1mbit down 256 up06:26
nofearit works pretty well as long as u dont get fapped06:26
pashawsaotome_,   they have 2way sat now06:26
phreqHas anyone here tried to run Ubuntu Breezy, i386 Live on a Compaq Presario V2000 laptop?06:26
nofearFAP sucks becuase then your slower than Dialup06:26
nofeartc?06:26
nofearwriting this down! LOL06:27
rhartnofear: a linux bridging firewall can also shape traffic06:27
crimsunnofear: just search the Web for traffic shaping how-tos06:27
nofearallright06:27
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nofearI am asuming to do this I'd need two lan cards am I correct?06:27
GoldfischDoes iptables have traffic shaping? Wouldn't surprise me. That thing can do everything except your income taxes (and I bet they're working on that too!)06:28
binarydigitnofear: the easiest to do, is get ipcop, manage everything from a web based approach06:28
garryToo bad you can't write a program to put bill gate06:28
phreqI don't think iptables does.06:28
nofearsweet06:28
nofearI'll do that then06:28
rhartnofear: it will require 2 cards for a bridging firewall06:28
binarydigiti set up something similar in like 20 minutes with it06:28
garryI hate fat enter keys that get in the way of shift keys.06:28
nofearok, will ipcop require 2 cards too?06:28
binarydigitya06:28
nofearokay not a prob06:28
nofeari got all that.06:28
binarydigitdont need a powerful comp at all06:29
binarydigittake an old pc06:29
nofearI just never delt with internet shairing and all that jaz on linux before06:29
nofeardue to routers LOL06:29
binarydigityea, it makes it real easy06:29
binarydigiti was gonna try to do it myself06:29
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Goldfischipcop is like building your own firewall+router on a linux machine.06:29
nofearyeah i got a amd k7 750 + a 20 gig drive im gona use06:29
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phreqI wanted to use tc to give priorities to certain services over others, I still haven't figured it out. That is, I could have a download continuously going on my 3Kb/s downstream, but if someone jumped on http it would get priority. :P06:29
garrywrite a program to find all pics your bro has downloaded and paste a watermark of some ugly crone all over his porn.06:29
rhartnofear: the cool thing about bridging it allows you to filter and shape without routing06:29
pashawnofear, p200 64MB  is all you need for ipcop    i use a p2-400 512mb for our company06:29
nofeari just hope it got ram.. lol06:29
nurfeIs there a way to tell what Version of Ubuntu is running on a computer?06:30
TupperOkay here's something else.  The BIOS doesn't list any heat sensors, so I'm guessing that Ubuntu is getting a gibberish value.  How do I disable ACPI?06:30
binarydigithah06:30
phrequname -a nurfer.06:30
phreqEr. Urfe06:30
phreqGrrr.06:30
nofearMy friend has a program that does that.06:30
nurfe:)06:30
binarydigitTupper: you can remove it through apt06:30
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nofearsoem type of packit sniffer06:30
shadeofgreyhey everybody06:30
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nofearand u can see pictures that are coming in on the network06:30
phreqEthereal.06:30
phreak97gah, i need xmms to support japanese06:30
Tupperapt-get remove acpi or something06:30
Tupper?06:30
pashawnofear,  dont need mor than 64mb  unless you use the squid proxy cache i doubt you will06:30
phreak97all i can get is a mash of kanjis in wrong places06:31
binarydigitTupper: search first to see the exact package name06:31
binarydigitbut yea06:31
nofearokay06:31
Tupperkk06:31
nofearbrb 1 sec gona check see if that machine has any ram in it06:31
shadeofgreywould one ofyou please take a minute and help me by filingh a bug report on my behalf for dapper?  i attempted to do so myself and dont know the answer to half the fill in the blank boxes06:31
nurfecan you tell me what version IE Hoary/Breezy Etc with this? "Linux laptop 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:37:10 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux06:31
nurfe" ??06:31
shadeofgreybreezy06:31
shadeofgreythe latest breezy06:31
nurfeThank you. :)06:31
saotome_5.1006:31
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shadeofgreyyour welcome06:31
nurfeActually 1 more question... How did you know?06:32
GoldfischThe Shadow knows!06:32
saotome_lol06:32
garrylatest kernel version06:32
shadeofgrey.12-1006:32
pashawnurfe,   thats the kernel breezy uses right now06:32
nofearoh my06:32
nofearit even has a hardrive in it!06:32
nurfe:)  Thanks yet again. :D06:32
shadeofgreyi have a quetion about the new kernel as well06:32
nofearI am in luck06:32
nofearthank you all so ever much for all the help :)06:33
shadeofgreyfor some reason i now have 2 listings in my grub boot list for breezy -- ione with the old kernel and recov. mode, and one with the new kernel and recov. mode06:33
phreqOkay, I've decided this is a more general X question. I'll hop over to ##linux...06:33
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nofearand btw... ubuntu rocks :P06:33
shadeofgreyhow do i safely remove the antiquated one from the list?06:33
nofeari love the os06:33
crimsunshadeofgrey: 2.6.12-9-[..]  and 2.6.12-10-[..]  ?06:33
Goldfischshadeofgrey: That is because you have two kernels installed. You can run either one. Look in /boot, and you will see two sets of files.06:33
GoldfischWhen I installed ubuntu, it tried to upgrade my kernel, but my celeron 433 choked big time, so I uninstalled the newer kernel.06:34
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garryYou can sudo gedit menu.lst in the /boot directory, it might be in there or in /boot/grub/ but just comment out the unwanted ones with #06:34
ITSa341Hello06:34
pashawshadeofgrey,   its not hurting anything  id just ignore it06:35
shadeofgreyokay06:35
saotome_how do i safely remove an old kernel?06:35
Goldfischshafeofgrey: type dpkg-l | grep linux-image, and you should see the packages they are installed as. Just more fyi.06:35
saotome_i still have the old kernel on grub, which is annoying06:35
saotome_and is just using up unnecesarily disk space06:35
garryI agree with pashaw, it don't hurt to have extra incase one of the kernels gets corrupted.06:35
nofearokay all I'll be back  in a while06:35
Goldfischsaotome_: dpkg -P linux-image-x.y.z, will remove it from your system (grub included).06:35
ITSa341How do I return to the original kernel? I installed a different kernel and now powernow doesn't work.06:35
saotome_cool!06:35
binarydigitITSa341: is it still listed in grub06:36
binarydigitthe old one06:36
binarydigitthat is06:36
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Goldfischsaotome_: grub has some hooks built in so that when you install/remove kernel packages, they automatically update grub.06:36
ITSa341not sure, how do I find out without rebooting?06:36
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binarydigitcheck menu.lst06:36
binarydigitin /boot/grub06:36
ilba7rshadeofgrey sudo aptitude purge linux-image-2.6.12-9.386 if you want to get rid of the old kernel06:36
saotome_thanks06:36
redearlquestion ? where can I find the password for ububtu that is the VMware image?06:36
ITSa341brb06:36
pashawlol   talking about removing kernels  and here comes someone who wishes they didnt06:36
GoldfischOnly remove a kernel when you have thoroughly tested the newer running one. I can't stress this enough!06:37
ElitePeteanyone seen that video on how to install ubuntu? the guy did a nice job.06:37
GoldfischKernels don't waste THAT much disk space.06:37
ElitePetehow big is a kernel?06:38
phreak97can xmms minimize to tray?06:38
ElitePetephreak97, get the applet for it, rocks.06:38
GoldfischElitePete: Go to /boot. The vmlinuz file is the binary kernel image.06:38
GoldfischElitePete: type ls -lh06:38
ElitePeteGoldfisch, how big is it :-P06:38
ITSa341binarydigit  no, lots listed there ( I tried a few ) but not the original one I had when I first installed06:39
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ElitePete26kb ?06:39
binarydigitITSa341: you can try reinstalling it from synaptic06:39
GoldfischElitePete: I don't know how big YOU'RE kernel is. You have to go find out for yourself. :)06:39
ElitePetewhats average? :-)06:39
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mcjerrywhat is the command in xchat to set autorejoin on?06:40
ITSa341binary, how do I know which one to install to go back to original?06:40
phreak97ElitePete, how?06:40
pashawElitePete,   including modules  at most 20mb?06:40
binarydigitwell was breezy your install?06:40
TupperQuick question... installed Ubuntu DVD on a HP ze2000 laptop, and it installed fine after I installed some ATI drivers.  However, now whenever I boot, I get into Gnome and it crashes out to console logon, does nothing for about 3 seconds, then says that my PC has overheated to 144C... mind you that it has been off for about 3 hours now.  I just tried to boot in recovery mode, and the thing keeps halting when I get halfway through bootup.  I can't disable06:40
TupperACPI, as I can't even get into a usable console before it screws up...06:40
intelikeykernel source requires 40 - 70 mb disk space while a kernel requires as little as 35kb  or as much as 16+ mb  modules not included.  how ever a kernel larger than 1m is seldom bootable as i understand it.06:40
ITSa341yup06:40
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TupperACPI, as I can't even get into a usable console before it screws up...06:40
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Wilfi love it when you get the password wrong to unlock the screed06:40
WilfDENIED06:40
TupperEr, disregard that :D06:40
TupperBut anyways, yeah.  Is there any boot options to disable ACPI, temp sensors, or shutting down on temp sensor?06:41
binarydigiti believe that would be 2.6.12-906:41
ElitePeteanyone else use azureus and all the text bleeds together for torrents?06:41
TupperOtherwise I'm kinda screwed06:41
ITSa341binary  tyvm06:41
mcjerrywhat is the command in xchat to set autorejoin on?06:41
phreak97Wilf,  youre right, it's awesome06:41
phreak97lmao06:41
binarydigitnp06:41
GoldfischCan't you enter a grub boot parameter like noacpi? Or am I thinking of noapic?06:41
phreak97i just did it to see06:41
phreqI think you could pass arguments to the kernel during boot.06:41
ITSa341bbiab06:41
crimsunGoldfisch: acpi=off or pci=noacpi06:41
pashawGoldfisch,    acpi=off06:42
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Tupperacpi=off will do it?06:42
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Tupperkk, will try.  thanks guys06:42
GoldfischYou need to put that in the /boot/grub/menu.lst where kopt is.06:43
phreqMine is at /boot/grub/grub.conf06:43
garryI had to take out all my acpi stuff when I recompile kernels because I got so sick of these gripes about deprecated apci variables that I could not stand it any more. All apci is gone but it still gripes.06:43
phreqHm... Could be Fedora's doing.06:43
saotome_hey, i did it!!06:43
saotome_everything is possible after all!06:44
garrygrats!06:44
saotome_thanks everybody06:44
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saotome_lol06:44
intelikeytupper on a really borked system, repairs can sometimes be affected by using  ' init=/bin/bash '  in the input line of the kernel at boot.06:44
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qwertyhello everyone06:44
redearlhello all06:44
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pashawhello06:45
redearlquestion ? where can I find the password for ububtu that is the VMware image?06:45
qwertyi have no idea06:45
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GoldfischWilf: So, you like sushi?06:46
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ElitePeteMiRC detected06:46
garryHere comes Paranha linux!06:46
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WilfmIRC?06:46
Wilfhow inulting!06:46
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Wilfwithout an s!06:47
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garrymea culpa06:47
GoldfischYeah, I remember those miRC days.06:47
ElitePetei don't06:47
intelikeythoreauputic which cliche ?06:47
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phreak97where can i get the xmms-applet package?06:47
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thoreauputicintelikey: "large trout" slaps are a cliche :)06:47
pashawredearl,   did you unzip the image?06:47
crimsunphreak97: which, gxmms-xmms or xmms-status-plugin?06:48
phreqapt-get. ^_-06:48
xenexbrb cleaning my bed after pissing in it06:48
WilfXChat > mIRC06:48
Wilfmy a long way.06:48
Wilfby*06:48
qwertydoes ubuntu have konsole06:48
phreqAgreed.06:49
thoreauputic!start an IRC client war06:49
ubotuxchat is better than gaim !06:49
thoreauputic;)06:49
WilfWilf > thoreauputic06:49
ZeroIRCLIAR!06:49
Wilfby a long way06:49
phreqTelnet's his IRC. ;)06:49
Goldfischksirc is the best!06:49
intelikeyqwerty not by default.06:49
Wilfbitchx!06:49
thoreauputicWilf: I expect you are right, in all humility :)06:49
phreak97crimsun, i dont know, all i want to do is be able to minimize to tra06:49
phreak97tray*06:50
qwertyim on the live version and it doesnt look like it does, but on the installed version does it have alot more stuff06:50
crimsunphreak97: then you probably want the former06:50
pashawFYI-  if someone asks the Ubuntu VMWare password again    its user=ubuntu password=ubuntu  :P06:50
qwertysuch as konsole06:50
phreak97probably06:50
pashawsorry i ment the vmware prebuilt image06:50
phreak97where do i get it then?06:50
crimsunphreak97: from universe.06:50
phreqTry apt-get install konsole06:50
phreak97synaptic got it?06:50
phreak97ok06:50
intelikeyqwerty you can install 'MOST' gnu software on ubuntu06:50
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phreqI love apt-get.06:50
Toma-isnt konsole part of kde-bin?06:50
phreqIunno, but it can stand alone. I run it on XFCE on occasion...06:51
thoreauputicqwerty: Applications- Accessories - Terminal ? Or do you *really* want konsole ?06:51
crimsunit's part of kdebase, yes.06:51
Toma-i guess not06:51
intelikeyToma- no but it is part of the kdebase package i think.06:51
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qwertyso really is that a yes or no06:51
phreak97is there an advantage to using apt-get rather than the synaptic gui?06:51
garryI got it when I used synaptec to get kde. It is part of kde. but if you just get he konsole it shows up in gnome too.06:51
ZeroIRCasdfgh06:52
Goldfischphreak97: Does not taking 30 seconds just to pull up the GUI count?06:52
intelikey!info knosole06:52
thoreauputicqwerty: Kubuntu has Konsola, Ubuntu has gnome-terminal06:52
crimsunphreak97: in certain instances, yes (cf. apt-get build-dep, apt-get source, etc.)06:52
phreak97doesnt here anyway06:52
phreak97ok06:52
pashawphreak97, apt-cache  is faster than GUI search on older systems06:52
phreak97alright, so for now i guess synaptic is fine for me06:52
thoreauputicpashaw: it's faster, period06:52
ZeroIRCasdfgh06:52
qwertyis kubuntu free06:53
ZeroIRCyes06:53
thoreauputicqwerty: of course06:53
phreak97ok, i have gxmms installed, how do i use it?06:53
qwertyis kubuntu on the ubuntu cd or not06:53
pashawthoreauputic,  agreed06:53
intelikeyqwerty like i said you can install 'MOST' gnu software on ubuntu.   that includes kubuntu-desktop    or just the  kdebase   either of them will give your ubuntu konsole.06:53
garryno06:53
crimsunphreak97: it has documentation in /usr/share/doc/gxmms-xmms06:53
dotchadamazing channel06:53
phreak97thanks06:53
maskdqwerty, ubuntu is linux with gone, kubuntu is the same except gnome is kde06:54
qwertyis it big?06:54
maskdthey both have their own CD's06:54
phreqKubuntu?06:54
maskdgone = gnome btw06:54
pashawdotchad,  buttering us up for a big question huh?06:54
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phreqKubuntu = (Ubuntu - GNOME) + KDE06:55
dotchadno ;p06:55
intelikeyqwerty do /msg ubotu info kubuntu-desktop06:55
garryyou can dl the kde stuff, and then the system says you are running kbuntu when you are in kde and ubuntu when in gnome.06:55
ITSa341bbiab06:55
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phreqYou can always remove GNOME and install, say, fluxbox. ;)06:55
maskdor xfce4 ;)06:55
pashawqwerty,   you can have full kubuntu  after installing base ubuntu and running apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:55
phreqOr twm. Heh.06:55
intelikeyqwerty do /msg ubotu info kdebase06:55
phreak97crimsun, it doesnt tell me much06:55
Goldfischphreq: Now you're talking!06:56
phreqI like twm. ^_-06:56
Goldfisch!tell qwerty about kdebase06:56
phreqIt's about the only thing that runs quickly on my box.06:56
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phreqI need to grab Fluxbox.06:56
arai use the command "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 -t ntfs /home/ara/mymedia -o umask=1000" to hook my second hard drive, if i want to put this into /etc/fstab do i need to change it?06:56
qwertywhere can i download konsole06:56
phreqA little.06:57
phreqRead the man fstab, it tells which columns hold what values.06:57
intelikeyquert synaptic package manager06:57
dotchadit's amazing cause there r lots of people, mostly helpful. therefore you can ask anytime that you'll have an answer06:57
qwertywhere can i download konsole06:57
maskdara, try /dev/hdb1/home/ara/mymediantfsumask=1000006:58
phreqqwerty: Use apt-get.06:58
intelikeyqwerty ^06:58
maskdwoops, change 100 to 100006:58
qwertyin what the terminal, or root terminal06:58
garryDid we not just say its part of kde? Just search for it with synaptic and get it.06:58
intelikeyqwert synaptic package manager06:58
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thoreauputicqwerty:  sudo apt-get install konsole06:58
phreqOpen any term and type sudo apt-get install konsole06:58
kurrosIf it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.06:58
Goldfisch!konsole06:58
ubotuGoldfisch: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!06:59
pashawqwerty,   System>Admin>Synaptic06:59
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thoreauputic!info konsole06:59
phreqkurros: I've heard that guy.06:59
ubotukonsole: (X terminal emulator for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 563 kB, Installed size: 1896 kB06:59
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phreqDoes the Ubuntu live boot with all the drivers of the install CD?07:00
maskdqwerty, why use konsole? why not just use gnome-terminal?07:00
phreqI'm looking at my video modules and they look kind of slim.07:01
pashawphreq,    ??07:01
intelikeyphreq i think it has more vidio drivers that the install boots with....07:01
phreqHrm.07:01
crimsunwell heck, you may as well consider rxvt-unicode-lite then.07:01
qwertyi dont know, i like konsole a lot better07:02
phreqWell, I'm guessing that the ATI drivers are binary...?07:02
phreqI like Konsole for transparency.07:02
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intelikeyeterm07:02
GoldfischI have been a KDE person, until I loaded ubuntu. I like GNOME. I have even converted one of my other desktops to GNOME now.07:02
pashaw!tell phreq about ati07:02
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garryJust don't tell Linus.07:03
phreqAlrighty, thanks.07:03
intelikeyGoldfisch i had not definite againsg gnome until i loaded ub  :)07:03
pikeasHey folks, I'm having some issues getting TV-out to work with an ATI Radeon 8500 under Breezy.07:03
Goldfischgarry: I almost said something to that effect earlier. But I was worried my sarcasm wouldn't come across properly. Hah!07:03
windowmakeryeah, i read about that07:03
pashawlol  Linus   is a control freak    thats why he started linux to begin with  just his style07:03
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qwertywhat is the default (gnome or KDE) on the live version07:04
Goldfischintelikey: Ehh?07:04
garryGoldfisch I figure I was safe cause I could say that I'm running gnome now.07:04
phreqUbuntu is always GNOME.07:04
windowmakeri used to like KDE too, until i started using gnome in breezy.... KDE looks great but it's too buggy and crashy >=(07:04
bur[n] erkde 3.5 is nice :)07:04
phreqKubuntu is always KDE... isn't there a Xubuntu now too?07:04
levanderHave arstechnica's forums just been down all night?07:04
phreak97i installed the nvidia manager thing, now where would i find it?07:04
bur[n] erkde 3.5 finally supports svg :)07:04
Goldfischwindowmaker: My start was when kmail started segfaulting. After a month, now patches, so I started using evolution.07:04
crimsunphreq: in some shape & form, yes.07:04
windowmakerwhat IS xubuntu? i saw it on osdir07:04
maskdphreq, xubuntu exists, but you have to do is manually07:04
garryNow isn't this strange. XChat says I can't send /says but I can. Silly server. LoL07:04
phreqOh, okay... I'd rather strip it all away anymore.07:05
levanderwindowmaker: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde instead of gnome as desktop environment07:05
GoldfischSo what the heck is xubuntu?07:05
maskdwindowmaker, xubuntu is xfce4 instead of gnome or kde for your GUI07:05
phreak97anyone?07:05
phreqAt least on this box. PII w/ 64Mb RAM. :P07:05
windowmakermaskd: i see07:05
bur[n] erphreq: xubuntu :)07:05
levanderwhen are they coming out with eubuntu?07:05
phreqWe;;. O dm07:05
intelikeyphreq xubuntu is supposed to first appear as dapper iirc07:05
phreqEr. :P07:05
GoldfischOnly...I'll keep around my knoppix live CD for recovery purposes. It seems to run faster that ubuntu's live CD on my celeron 433 laptop.07:05
bur[n] erlevander: e17?  bleh07:05
windowmakerwhat about wubuntu... are they going to make one with windowmaker?07:06
levanderbur[n] er: you've tried it?07:06
pashawlevander,   yeah they are down for me also   i read them at work  :P07:06
phreqTubuntu!07:06
pikeasATI drivers installed fine, I've got video out on the TV, but it's the wrong resolution. the desktop horizontal option in the ATI control panel doesn't work at all. nothing too suspicious in my XOrg log file. fglrxinfo, however, doesn't run (no output).07:06
garryI use both gnome and kde. I not sure which I like more.  I suspect gnome might be less memory intensive but kde with that euphoria screensaver, that screensaver is awesome.07:06
phreqTWM. ^_^07:06
bur[n] eror flubuntu :)07:06
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windowmakerhaha07:06
windowmakerfluxbox07:06
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levanderpashaw: sucks, i'm really waiting on somebody to answer me a question there07:06
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phreqI'd like Fluxbox.07:06
garrygnome's noof is my other favorate.07:06
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bur[n] eri've always been partial to fluxbox07:06
Goldfischtwubuntu?07:06
qwertywhat exactly is Fluxbox07:06
MrPocketshow can one burn a music CD in Ubuntu07:06
pashawlevander,   they have alot of database trouble  from time to time07:06
phreqGNOME > KDE as far as resources are concerned.07:06
windowmakerk3b07:06
levanderpashaw: you've got to wonder if they even have somebody working there that knows it's down07:06
bur[n] erMrPockets: serpentine07:06
eclairqwerty: it's a light window manager07:06
garrywow07:06
windowmakerphreq: and stability07:06
MrPocketshow do i install that?07:06
phreqBut KDE looks cooler. ;)07:07
windowmakerhow do i change my workgroup in samba? my windows boxes are in "WORKGROUP" and my linux box is in "HOME"... i want to get my linux box in "WORKGROUP"07:07
qwertynvm07:07
Toma-fluxbox is exellent on lower end systems. most modern PC respond quick enough to use gnome or kde without much fuss...07:07
intelikeyhow about ' buntu '   for  no X  console users   ;/07:07
qwertyill c ya guys later07:07
maskdphreq; i dunno, KDE's default clock font always pissed me off07:07
garrysome distros have fluxbox on it without saying so.07:07
qwertyi have to install ubuntu07:07
windowmakerMrPockets: google, or maybe apt (synaptic)07:07
pashawlevander,   they do   too many people stay in contract outside the forums   MMOs   CS etc07:07
bur[n] erwindowmaker: sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf07:07
phreqmaskd: I've only used it with Fedora Core 3's Bluecurve.07:07
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pashawlevander,   i was in the ARS WOW  guild07:07
windowmakerbur[n] er, yep, and?07:07
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izm81ok.  i have an external usb hard-drive with 2 partitions.  One of them mounts as "74.5 GB Volume"  and the other doesn't mount because it gives it some weird non-ascii name.  anyone have any  ideas?07:08
bur[n] erwindowmaker: search that file for "home" and change it to "workgroup"07:08
levanderpashaw: what's an MMO and a CS?  and if they know it's down, why wouldn't they reboot?07:08
windowmakerbur[n] er,  i figured that out... it still thinks i'm part of home07:08
bur[n] erwindowmaker: u can also use:  gksudo "gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf"07:08
bur[n] erwindowmaker: restart samba?07:08
windowmakerbur[n] er,  how?07:08
bur[n] erwindowmaker: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart07:08
phreqlevander: Check out http://en.wikipedia.org and search those acronyms.07:08
pashawlevander,   dout its that easy   the members are in contact using everything from voice-chat  to aim   so they know    trust me on that07:09
phreqI'm not sure what they are, but I'll bet Wiki's got something on them.07:09
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windowmakerbur[n] er, awesome, it's working07:09
windowmakerbur[n] er, thnks07:09
MrPocketscan i apt-get serpentine?07:09
bur[n] erwindowmaker: np07:09
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AndrewXI'm getting Kernel Panic: VFS: not syncing errors at boot. Thinking it has to do with having an IDE and a SATA drive. am I correct?07:09
bur[n] erwindowmaker: as a side note... from windows, do start, run, \\linuxhostname instead of browsing through the network07:09
garryIf they stored all the anachronisms on one server, it would get top heavy and flop over.07:10
thoreauputicMrPockets: serpentin is installed by default already on Ubuntu07:10
skonAnyone know how I can put commands in my /etc/motd file instead of just text?07:10
thoreauputicbreezy anyway07:10
pashawlevander,   CS?   counter-strike    MMO  everquest/worldwarcraft/etc07:10
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garryYes, AndrewX, FC4 has that issue with ide and sata together.07:10
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intelikeyhmmmmm   invoke-rc.d = 11 chars    /etc/init.d/  = 12 chars   not much of an improvement in my book.07:10
MrPocketsthoreauputic, how do i get to it?07:11
AndrewXgarry: rad, except this is ubuntu breezy :)07:11
bur[n] erintelikey: to each their own ;)07:11
thoreauputicintelikey: also you can tab-complete /etc/init.d07:11
levanderpashaw: the people who run ars play those games a lot?07:11
Toma-skon: pretty sure you cant07:11
bur[n] erthoreauputic: u can only tab complete it if you don't use sudo07:11
skonk07:11
crimsunintelikey: I suspect we recommend using the former because Debian Policy mandates that packages use the former, not the latter.07:11
pashawlevander,   lol  yes07:11
intelikeyactually you have to use the space so they are the same07:11
Toma-skon: what were you planning?07:11
garryAndrewX yep, but the kernels might be a common cause.07:11
skonToma: like I want to run fortune every time someone logs in via SSH07:11
levanderokay, what is FC4?  I thought those were redhat acronyms07:12
thoreauputicbur[n] er: wrong - you just enable programmable completion in .bashrc07:12
crimsunintelikey: but yes, six of a kind or half a dozen...07:12
levanderpashaw: how you know they play those?07:12
Toma-skon: add "fortune" to bashrc07:12
skonokay thanks07:12
bur[n] erthoreauputic: eh?  I'm curious... i want sudo tab-completion, can you enlighten me?07:12
AndrewXhmm...07:12
thoreauputicMrPockets: Applications- Sound and Video -Serpentine07:12
Toma-skon: you'd want the /etc/bash.bashrc file i think07:12
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MrPocketsbut you see its not there :-\07:12
pashawlevander,   our clan always knew stuff about the site  before it was posted  like coming articles and such07:13
skonToma: what do I do with it?07:13
bur[n] erMrPockets: alt+f2, type "serpentine"07:13
thoreauputicbur[n] er: read ~/.bashrc and you'll see it - commented out by default07:13
MrPockets"cannot run location?07:13
intelikeyis invokerc.d  a script by any chance ?07:13
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levanderpashaw: ah, cool, kind of makes me wanna invest ungodly amounts of time in those games07:13
adrian__Is hd0,0 ALWAYS where the MBR is?07:13
bur[n] erthoreauputic: i love you :)07:14
Toma-skon: just add the word fortune to the end of it, on its own line07:14
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adrian__The first 512 bytes, that is?07:14
pashawlevander,    dont07:14
thoreauputicbur[n] er: heh heh :)07:14
intelikeyadrian__ yeppers07:14
levanderpashaw: i know, i just got over a battlefield vietnam addiction about five months ago07:14
skonk07:14
adrian__if i'm trying to dualboot using NTLDR, and my linux /boot partition is hd0,0 , am I screwed?07:14
levanderpashaw: my favorite game server went down, and I was able to wean off07:14
adrian__Ah. I guess I am :(07:14
AndrewXexit07:14
Toma-skon: you might wanna take out the fortune reference in the user .bashrc files otherwise it'll run twice :)07:14
rjordanAnyone seen this before? root@aurora:~# modprobe ndiswrapper07:14
rjordanFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted07:14
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adrian__intelikey, then is there any way to dual-boot using NTLDR if my /boot partition is on hd0,0 ?07:15
levanderrjordan: put sudo at the front07:15
Amaranthrjordan: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper07:15
crimsunrjordan: I suspect it's the amd64 vs. ia32 issue.07:15
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rjordanI'm already root...07:15
phreqI get the same thing for gflrx07:15
Amaranthoh yeah, and ndiswrapper is x86 only07:15
phreqEr. fglrx07:15
rjordancrimsun, that'd make sense.07:15
intelikeyadrian__ actually let me recant.   the first 512 of /dev/hda   not /dev/hda1   so lets re think that.07:16
Amaranthwhy use NTLDR when you have grub?07:16
adrian__intelikey, same thing, no?07:16
skonToma: thx07:16
Toma-skon: np.07:16
adrian__Amaranth, just because =P07:16
intelikeyadrian__ no07:16
phreqYeah, use GRUB.07:16
adrian__intelikey, hmm07:16
phreqI love GRUB. ^_^07:16
rjordanphreq, that's odd, I have fglrx running with a turion proc and a mobile ati chip right now.07:16
adrian__I know I can use grub. I've done it using grub a thousand times. I just want to try it with NTLDR . For the challenge ;)07:16
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levanderadrian__: well then you do the challenge, stop bugging us07:17
phreqAdrian__: Spoken like a true Linux user. Heh.07:17
thoreauputicbur[n] er: BTW that tab completion also works for stuff with apt - like sudo apt-get ins <tab> packag <tab>07:17
adrian__intelikey, but usually when you install grub, you do: setup (hd0,0)    and that installs it to the mbr, ne? and hd0,0 corresponds to /dev/hda107:17
phreqrjordan: This is a Sempron Mobile, not sure the ATI.07:18
bur[n] erthoreauputic: i'm seeing this :)  wish i knew about it ages ago07:18
phreqOne sec, this is the error X keeps giving me.07:18
bur[n] erphreq: lspci07:18
adrian__levander, all I asked was if hd0,0 is the MBR. You guys just jumped me for not using grub.07:18
thoreauputicbur[n] er: never ending discovery process, is *nix ;-)07:18
phreqFull of Unknown device07:18
intelikeyadrian__ do a   cut -b-80 <test> | grep -m30 | less         where <test> is first  /dev/hda   and next time  /dev/hda107:18
levanderadrian__: i was joking, but ntldr is microsoft software, and we do have grub that's easier, i'd be surprised if you got support here, but i really don't care07:18
FlannelKingadrian__, are you referencing it through grub? or what? (since theyre different, one starts at 0, one at 1)07:19
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rjordanphreq, hd(0) is the MBR07:19
intelikeythey are not the same.07:19
rjordanerr...07:19
levandernot that i'm offended, i just don't care because it's not important to me07:19
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adrian__I see.07:19
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phreqCould I just tell it to load a really basic VGA adapter so I could have some form of a GUI? ;)07:19
garryIts not hard, just get an image of the mbr into a file and list it in ntloader, the trouble is, every time you install a new kernel, it will stop booting if you forget to make a new image file.07:20
Toma-phreq: what vga card u using?07:20
garryer list it in boot.ini that is.07:20
adrian__Still, when you *normally* install grub to mbr, you do: setup (hd0,0) . So if I did that, I would in effect be writing to the MBR. I've no reason to expect NTLDR would still be there, right?07:20
rjordanphreq, just use the 'ati' driver. that should work.07:20
adrian__garry, yes, that's what I'm doing -- the problem is that /boot IS my MBR07:20
thoreauputicphreq:  sudo apkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the vesa driver?07:20
intelikeynow as to your first quarry adrian__ you can use 'bootloader of choice' to boot the system on hd0,0 yes.07:20
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adrian__So I can't put NTLDR there without overwriting grub07:20
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phreq(EE) RADEON[0] : [dri]  DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI.07:20
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garryadrian__ hmm.07:21
phreqOne sec, I'll host my err via http.07:21
rjordanadrian__, no, hd(0,0) is the first partition's beginning not the MBR07:21
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Toma-phreq: use a pastebin07:21
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phreqpastebin?07:21
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Toma-!pastebin07:21
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:21
adrian__rjordan, then what would I use to setup grub? setup (hd0,0) ?07:21
thoreauputic!paste07:21
ubotufrom memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text07:21
intelikeyrjordan i just told him that.... even provided a way to confirm it....07:21
adrian__I understand that07:21
rjordansetup (hd0)07:22
adrian__Aah07:22
adrian__Okay :) That answers it.07:22
adrian__Thanks, rjordan!07:22
rjordannp07:22
phreqOh goodness.07:22
phreqI was gonna give a link to my server, but anyway, the display is really bugging out now. I tried to dump stderr into a log and my lcd is now all wavy.07:23
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rjordanphreq, you want graphics but you can't get fglrx working right?07:23
Toma-sounds like wrong vert sync07:23
garryI generated my image files to put in boot.ini by using dd if=/dev/hdc1 count=1 bs=512 of=Ubuntu.lin    your device name will probably vary.07:23
Toma-phreq: try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" then restart X07:23
Toma-see if that gives you a working xorg.conf07:24
intelikeygarry if you were trying to image the mbr you missed it.07:24
adrian__garry, thats exactly what I did..07:25
garryintelikey it always worked for me.07:25
TezekielCan I install Ubuntu on my machine that already have WindowsXP ?07:25
phreqAlrighty, gotta restart my laptop.07:25
adrian__intelikey, not the mbr, just the boot sector of the /boot partition07:25
phreqTezekiel: Yes.07:25
skonis ubuntu-minimal an unnessary package? does anyone know?07:25
adrian__skon, its a meta-package07:25
adrian__Its safe to remove07:25
skonthanks07:25
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adrian__np :)07:25
Tezekielphreq : nice07:25
rjordanTezekiel, I had a new XP install filling the whole disk with it's partition. Popped in the ubuntu disc, resized it down and installed without incident.07:26
phreqXP uses NTFS, doesn't it?07:26
DotheGuruyup07:26
rjordanyep07:26
owner989yes07:26
owner989usually07:26
Toma-not always07:26
adrian__lol!07:26
DotheGurutrue07:26
owner989if its an upgrade it could fat3207:26
intelikeyby default it does.07:26
Tezekielrjordan : nice, that was my second question :)07:26
phreqDoes it do better than fat at putting data on platters in groups?07:26
Toma-you get to choose what type of FS you want in install07:26
phreqCan I pick ext? ;)07:27
DotheGuruthis crappy recovery drive i have is fat3207:27
owner989probably phreq, but linux can read and write natively to fat3207:27
Toma-nop07:27
phreqYup. I love Linux.07:27
rjordanTezekiel, it even tells you how little you CAN make the windows partition. :D07:27
bur[n] eru can use ext from within windows, but not install to ext afaik07:27
bur[n] erwww.fs-driver.org for ext2/3 in windows07:27
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Toma-and you cant write to ext3 via windows07:27
phreqI try to avoid Windows. :P07:27
owner989you can toma07:28
owner989with the drivers07:28
AndrewXyes you can07:28
Tezekielvert good... downloading ubuntu now, looking forward to try it out.07:28
bur[n] erToma-: u can too07:28
Toma-well when i used windows i couldnt07:28
bur[n] erToma-: i do frequently07:28
Toma-i guess thats a few years ago now :D07:28
bur[n] erToma-: try fs-driver.org instead of explore2fs07:28
bur[n] er:)07:28
AndrewXToma: works fine. it just doesn't use the journaling functions07:28
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phreqTezekiel: Have to tried the LiveCD?07:28
Toma-fat + ntfs are redundant in my eyes07:28
intelikeywindows is that, that other os thingy ?07:28
garryNT stands for nice try.07:29
arait seems like that i already have installed the opera but i don't know how to run it07:29
aracan you tell me how07:29
phreqlocate opera07:29
Tezekielphreq : no, but ill try it07:29
phreqWell, how long ago did you install it?07:29
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Toma-intelikey: i think its the new os/2 :D07:29
arayesterday07:29
garryToma- Lol07:30
thoreauputicara: just typing opera in a terminal shoulr start it - you might want to make a launcher though07:30
phreqHm. From a comman-- yeah.07:30
phreqOr you could opera &, of course.07:30
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thoreauputicbetter with & , yes07:30
detHi, libdvdcss2 is the package for encrypted dvd support, yes?07:31
intelikeythen close the terminal ?07:31
DotheGuruya07:31
arait won't start, isn't the installation command is " apt-get install opera07:31
thoreauputicdet: yes07:31
ara?07:31
phreqYeah... what's the error it gives you?07:31
DotheGurusudo07:31
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thoreauputicara: only if you have a repo with opera in it :)07:32
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arai don't have error installing it won't run07:32
thoreauputicara: did you add a repo for opera or download from their site?07:32
arai have downloaded a .deb file07:33
intelikeylol @ lilo07:33
thoreauputicara:  sudo dpkg -i opera<tab>07:33
thoreauputicara: you have to manually install ith dpkg -i07:33
detdoes libdvdcss2 exist for AMD64?07:34
Amaranth!libdvdcss07:34
uboturestricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats07:34
Amaranthhmm, i wonder if that gives the right instructions07:34
owner989!obotu07:35
ubotuowner989: Did you get hit by a windmill?07:35
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AndrewXdet: i had to find an alternate repository with libdvdcss2 on it. it wasn't on the reg one anymore.07:35
arait won't , gives me this error-->opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb07:35
TezekielI bet this is a very noobish question... hehe. I've used WinXp and I often buy things with my visa-card on the internet. I've tried everything to not get scamed, but they have done it 3 times the last year. Will it be harder for people to fraud me when I use Ubuntu(linux)?07:35
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FlannelKingAlright guys, why doesn't my apache2 setup ( http://pastebin.ca/35053 ) allow the rewrites at the bottom of that page?07:36
thoreauputicara: that isn't an error - if you have the full error pastebin it07:36
phreqAugh!07:36
Toma-det: afaik, libdvdcss2 doesnt exist for amd64 yet07:36
arawhere?07:36
phreqOkay, X keeps spitting out a bunch of No Symbols Found07:36
thoreauputic!pastebin07:36
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:36
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phreqdet: can't you compile from source?07:37
phreqWell. If you were desperate.07:37
detphreq, Usually, that is a last resort :-)07:37
phreqTrue. I'd just run the 32bit version. :P07:37
rjordanApparently ubuntu is not as cutting edge as I had thought.07:37
Viper12Tezekiel, that's a tough one to answer.  if you give your card number out to questionable sites, then no OS can stop that issue.  If you stick with reliable transaction sites, its less of a problem.07:37
garryNo if they have your credit card number, an os won't prevent them from fraudulently using it. Best advice is never buy from places you don't know, always google the company name, if from ebay check buyer feedback. Your best protection is pre-investigation.07:37
crimsunrjordan: who said it was cutting edge? :)07:37
rjordanndiswrapper is quite behind.07:37
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owner989i just turned ubuntu into kubuntu one day07:38
crimsunrjordan: you can always compile it yourself07:38
owner989and uninstalled gnome07:38
araok i did07:38
rjordancrimsun, I did not say that someone else claimed it was. I simply said I thought it was.07:38
intelikeygarry better advice is never use credit cards07:38
arai just pasted it07:38
thoreauputicara: URL?07:38
garryintelikey indeed.07:38
arahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/629807:39
crimsunrjordan: we have to freeze at some point.07:39
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alex__or you can include a debian unstable archive and get it from there07:39
rjordancrimsun, indeed.07:39
MrPocketsthoreauputic, is there anything esle i can use to burn a CD?07:39
owner989k3b07:39
smoOT, but I believe creditcards are safer than cash/money-order07:39
rjordanalex__, looking for one now. :)07:39
thoreauputicMrPockets: gnomebaker, k3b, graveman07:39
bubuntuhello, i would like to report something that looks like a bug and a securty failure .....07:39
owner989ara that file doesnt exist07:39
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AndrewXsmo: safer? I could steal a credit card number without mugging someone. cash, not so much.07:40
MrPocketswhich is the easiest for a n00b to install / use?07:40
thoreauputicara: you are probably in the wrong directory07:40
owner989that is your problem, you must have mispelled it or wrong path07:40
garryVisa claims fraud protection, but I got defrauded by a store, and they would not refund because it said in small print on the back of the reciept "All transactions are final."07:40
arai just downloaded it07:40
crimsunbubuntu: bug reports for packages in main go to bugzilla.ubuntu.com; for packages in universe/multiverse, to malone.net/launchpad07:40
arashould i do it again?07:40
stevenjcan somone please explain how the "red line" works in xchat07:40
owner989where did it download to07:40
intelikeysmo you believe.   hmmmm  ok.   well  COD   hehhe  cheet that.07:40
owner989thats what you know07:40
thoreauputicara: if it's on your desktop , do   cd ~/Desktop first07:40
araok07:40
crimsunbubuntu: err, launchpad.net/malone, sorry07:40
thoreauputicara: you just need to be in the same directory as the .deb07:41
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bubuntuok07:41
hydranti just realized that ive already created four partitions, but I need to make another (I still have another 100 gb on this drive ^ ^). It does not need to be bootable. Is there any way to get this partition on the drive without hurting any of the data already on there? For example, my /boot and / are two seperate partitions. I could just combine them. Is there any way to do this without losing any data?07:41
bubuntui was checking the site and i did not want to have another mailinglist07:41
stevenjnever mind :) heh07:41
owner989hydrant use gparted07:42
owner989just unmount the partitions before resizing07:42
adrian__resizing? I'm not resizing, I'm trying to merge.07:42
adrian__I have enough SPACE, Im just over the 4-per-drive limit07:43
aracan you check my bin again? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/629907:43
arasee what happened07:43
thoreauputicara: OK07:43
ilba7rara you can add this repos to your sources.list file to install opera deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free07:43
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thoreauputicara: looks like it's OK and installed07:43
araok how do i run it?07:44
MrPocketsso i installed serpintine, and i have the  .tar.gz file   how do i install it?07:44
intelikeyi protest the "linux for human beings" logo.    it implies that any other distro is not fit for, or usable by humans        that is totally misleading.  and false.07:44
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thoreauputicara: type opera &07:44
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thoreauputicara: see if it starts07:44
Amaranthintelikey: Please tell me you're joking.07:44
intelikeyi am not.07:44
thoreauputicintelikey: hah07:45
thoreauputicintelikey: your logic is totally off :)07:45
revmooi have a drive from a mirrored raid array(software), i want to access the files on the drive but mount results in: "mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /blah busy" is there any chance of getting at my files? Do i need to mount it raid-style or something?07:45
crimsunintelikey: it can also be interpreted as "Human beings can use this Linux distribution."07:45
arano it gives me error07:45
Amaranthintelikey: If it said "The only Linux for human beings" you'd have something there.07:45
thoreauputicara: where is the .deb. you downloaded?07:45
triceratopsDDIs there a known problem with /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist in linux-image2.6.15-8-k7? Here the evbug module is always loaded but it is blacklisted.07:45
intelikeycrimsun which implies that there are distros that they can not.07:46
araon my desktop07:46
crimsunintelikey: it does?07:46
intelikeyread what you just said.07:46
thoreauputicintelikey: it doesn't imply anything07:46
Amaranthintelikey: it doesn't say "human beings can use _only_ this linux distrobution"07:46
crimsunintelikey: you infer context on it.07:46
intelikeyno07:46
Toma-intelikey: compare gentoo to ubuntu. which one is easier for the basic Sammy-make-it-work-damnit?07:46
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garrySometimes, things are implied, but the implication is not intended.07:47
smointelikey: there probably are distros humans can't use.  linux finds itself into enough embedded appliances that there's very possibly instances where a person can't actually use it.  it's there and it does it's thing07:47
revmootivo..07:47
AmaranthToma-: That's not even the point though. It's not saying gentoo can't be used by human beings.07:47
Toma-yeh i guess07:47
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crimsunI suspect "can" is used here to connote choice.07:47
crimsunyou're free to not use Ubuntu07:48
intelikeysmo  the you give creedance to my protest but refute my reason.   i accept that.07:48
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rohanhi all07:48
thoreauputicintelikey: if your assertion was true, then all kinds of statements would suddenly take on a different meaning from the intended one - it's really a question of semantics, and syntax etc07:48
loginkingim trying to run xcompmgr but it says no composite extension-?07:48
rohanhow do i install Qt4 on ubuntu ? are pkgs available ?07:48
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garryI didn't feel like a human being after trying to get Gentoo running, but that's probably because my vision stinks and so does my typing, let alone my so called attention span.07:48
Toma-i think you should just think what you want...07:48
loginkingam i doing something wrong07:48
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araare you still with me?07:49
crimsunloginking: you have to explicitly load the extension. Search the Web for instructions.07:49
rohan!qt407:49
uboturohan: Did you get hit by a windmill?07:49
thoreauputicara: did you  cd ~/Desktop before doing the sudo dpkg -i bit ?07:49
loginkingi want to have drop shadow is this the way t odo it07:49
arayes i did07:49
loginkingim following a how to but im stuck in this part07:49
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crimsunloginking: yes; see what I said above.07:49
TTilusintelikey: it says "linux for...", not "the only linux for..."07:49
w1ldch1ldhey! i'm having trouble connecting to the internet after upgrading to breezy. i can reach the gateway and login too. but internet won't work. any pointers?07:50
loginkingok google here i come again'07:50
thoreauputicara: type   dpkg -L opera    and see if it installed any files (note capital "L" )07:50
garrynetconfig might do it.07:50
GnarlyBobI only wish google would release their fun apps for something other than windoze :(07:50
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arayes it did07:51
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w1ldch1ldwhat options do i hav other than netconfig?07:52
thoreauputicara:  what does the command    "which opera " say? ( without the quotes of course)07:52
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intelikeyGnarlyBob yeah like multi-player notepad07:52
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Squee-Dmine says "HMS Pinafore"07:52
ara/usr/bin/opera07:53
thoreauputicSquee-D: nah - that's only an operetta ;-)07:53
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thoreauputicara: OK try typing  /usr/bin/opera07:53
Squee-Dthoreauputic oh well, no wonder its not working right07:53
tonyyarussoOkay, so I've gathered a little bit more diagnostic information, so maybe someone can help me now.07:53
tonyyarussoThe issue is: console switching capability is messed up.07:53
thoreauputicara: although just "opera" shuld work - it's in your PATH07:53
hd420thoreauputic: ok... this officially sucks07:54
thoreauputicSquee-D: try Rigoletto ;-)07:54
tonyyarussoOn a normal boot, X starts, I log in to my desktop, and after that Ctrl-Alt-F# doesn't work.07:54
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Squee-Di really dont like opera :P07:54
araerror my friend07:54
tonyyarussoHowever, I can open up gnome-terminal, and /etc/init.d/gdm stop.07:54
tonyyarussoAfter that, I can switch between consoles just fine.07:55
thoreauputicSquee-D: oh - well what about "Mozart Symphony 40 " ? *grin*07:55
intelikeytonyyarusso what vidio drivers ?07:55
smow1ldch1ld: Is there a chance it's a dns issue?  does http://72.14.207.99/ get you to google?07:55
tonyyarussoAdditionally, I can log in on tty2 and use startx.07:55
thoreauputicara: hmm - running out of ideas - paste your error please07:55
tonyyarussointelikey, The open one for ati.07:55
intelikeygo ahead i didn't mean to interrupt.07:56
tonyyarussoAfter issueing startx from the console, it starts up on tty7 as usual, and from there my console switching is still fine, with X running.07:56
w1ldch1ldsmo: didn't try that.07:56
araok07:56
Squee-Dtonyyarusso it's not taking keystrokes when you 'should have switched' is it?07:56
tonyyarussointelikey, That's fine, someone had that question previously.07:56
w1ldch1ldsmo: i tried pinging with the DNS name though. i think i get what you mean07:56
tonyyarussoSquee-D, You mean when it's first up, what happens?07:56
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thoreauputicara: URL? have you pasted your error?07:57
w1ldch1ldsmo: is it that ubuntu ipv6 resolving issue?07:57
arahere http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/630007:57
thoreauputick07:57
arathe last one07:57
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tonyyarussoSquee-D, In a terminal, Ctrl-Alt-F(1-4) was typing as P, Q, R, and S, respectively.07:57
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Squee-Di mean if you try switch to a console, but nothing happens, are keystrokes still going to X? (like have editor opened or a terminal)07:57
tonyyarussoSquee-D, Ctrl-Alt-F(5-12) were ;7~07:57
smow1ldch1ld: I haven't touched ipv6, and aren't aware of that issue .. dns is simply the first place I look when everything looks good, but I don't reach any host by name07:57
Squee-Dahhh07:57
Squee-Dso somethings grabbing the keystrokes.07:57
Squee-DI'd start with the keymapping in term07:58
thoreauputicara: I think that's a java problem07:58
tonyyarussoSquee-D, I also know it still recognized them, because in the keyboard shortcuts menu I could set Ctrl-Alt-F1 as a shortcut for something.07:58
thoreauputicara: not sure - someone else might confirm07:58
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tonyyarussoSquee-D, It means nothing to me though, so any translation would be helpful.07:58
intelikeytonyyarusso that's not the only box that ever did that.   i sujest trying removing the S##gdm from your default runlevel.   probably /etc/rc2.d/S##gdm    then you can start x manually on every boot, or as needed.   it's not a fix but maybe a work around that you can live with.07:58
smotonyyarusso: do you get an xkb error when you login to gnome?  Just curious, as I have the same problem with terminal switching, and that xkb error07:58
w1ldch1ldsmo: thanks. i'll go try it07:58
hd420bugger apache 1.3 is STILL broken on breezy07:59
tonyyarussosmo: No errors visible anyway.07:59
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thoreauputicara: segmentation fault is usually a bug - but it seems to be looking for stuff and erroring on those07:59
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smotonyyarusso: thanks .. was just trying to figure out my own problems, whether the two are related08:00
arawhere do i get java08:00
ara?08:00
Squee-Dtonyyarusso its just I had this problem once, but im terribly helpless too. What i did was search /etc/X11 and all those . dirs in my home dir for something looking like a shortcut. removed, tested. failed.. replaced and moved on until i finally found the setting. that was quite some time ago.08:00
tonyyarussointelikey, Do you know why it would work when starting manually and not otherwise?08:00
thoreauputicara: do you have java installed?08:00
garryHehe, I got curious and tried ctrl + alt F2 but I should have asked how do I get back to gnome aside from rebooting like I just had to. Doh!!08:00
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tonyyarussosmo: Sorry I don't have any ideas for you.08:00
Squee-Dgarry c-a-F708:00
intelikeytonyyarusso if i knew the exact cause, i'd tell ya how to fix it....   so no i don't.08:00
garrySquee-D thanks. :)08:01
Squee-Dstartx is not the same as /etc/init.d/gdm start08:01
tonyyarussoSquee-D, A shortcut to what?  You succeeded eventually?08:01
Squee-Dso perhaps something in the init.d script will help?08:01
thoreauputicara: loos like the libjvm.so etc is in sun java08:01
Squee-Dtonyyarusso yes i did, but thats as far as my memory takes me, and it may not apply to your problem at all.08:01
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tonyyarussoSquee-D, Okay.08:02
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steven_can anyone tell me why k3b wont seem to let me add mp3's to be burned? or .wma for that matter08:02
Squee-Dtonyyarusso i think im more of a confusion to you than a help08:02
loginkingi have been searching everywhere on how to load xcompmgr i cant find it08:02
AviatrixieI like Automatix... it fixed my Java ;)08:02
tonyyarussoSquee-D or intelikey: Do you know what types of things I might be looking for in something like the init.d script?08:03
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loginkingi followed the how to step by step i searched google typed in the commands i saw and nothing08:03
steven_anyway i can test that my cd burner functions properly without wasting a cd?08:03
DotheGuruwhat about startx?08:03
DotheGurutry that?08:03
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intelikeysteven_ burning to cdda ?    you may not be able to decode them.   have w32codecs installed ?08:03
loginkingwhats the command to initiate xcompmgr?08:03
thoreauputicara: I suggest you try downloading and installing the "static" version of opera instead - I don't know why it is segfaulting but it's possible the ststic version would work for you08:03
steven_intelikey, yea i do, i want to do some kind of a test burn without using a cd?08:03
Corrupterthis might be a wierd question, but does anyone know of a CD cover art creator for Linux besides just doing the whole thing in gimp?08:03
leather_n_luvsteven_: cdrw08:03
tonyyarussoYes, DotheGuru.  That works.08:03
phreak97now that i have the nvidia manager installed, how do i use it?08:04
intelikeyxcdroast has the 'dummy' function steven_  i don't know about k3b  but i think i saw a test function there too.08:04
smoCorrupter, you could do worse than to peek at glabels. That's likely the first place I'd try if I wasn't doing anything too involved08:04
tonyyarussoIs there a log to view any errors that may have occurred during gdm start?08:04
steven_intelikey, i just tried and it told me to insert a cd08:05
crimsuntonyyarusso: they'll be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:05
steven_leather_n_luv, cdrw?08:05
tonyyarussoOr a way to find out through some other means what's grabbing the keypresses?08:05
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tonyyarussoThanks crimsun.08:05
intelikeysteven_ it has to have a blank cd but wont do any actual write command.08:05
crimsunI suspect you have the radeon<->gdm race condition08:05
leather_n_luvsteven_: yeah, that way if you mess up, just erase and start again...08:05
AviatrixieCorrupter... Nero always worked for making CD lables for me... hope this helps08:05
garryNvidia manager should be under Applications/system Tools.08:05
tonyyarussocrimsun, How would I know / is there a fix?08:06
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steven_intelikey, any program for linux that can write Mp3's to an AUDIO cd for use in standard players? i have all the codecs08:06
MadpilotCorrupter: gLabels08:06
phreak97garry, thanks08:06
crimsuntonyyarusso: you can try moving gdm to a later start # in /etc/rc2.d/08:06
cozhello is the command for closeing a cd trtay "eject t" ?08:06
Corrupteraviatrixie: i'd rather not boot up in Windows for anything, let alone something as small as cover art08:06
garryphreak97 welcome08:06
tonyyarussocrimsun, Okay.08:06
thoreauputiccoz: yes, eject -t08:06
DotheGuruwow08:07
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intelikeyaudacity i think steven_  and probably  vlc  also08:07
cozeject -t or just eject t08:07
MadpilotCorrupter: gLabel has templates for CD/DVD covers08:07
steven_intelikey, wont k3b or something do that08:07
cozok thanks08:07
intelikeythat is they can convert them and then you can burn them with any burning app08:07
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AviatrixieCorrupter, I haven't booted windows for months... I've totally migrated.  ;)08:08
tonyyarussocrimsun, Is this race condition common?08:08
nik__hello08:08
intelikeysteven_ idk.   i play with cd burning very little.   and  gui  even less.08:08
nik__hello08:08
GnarlyBobI'm glad to be back on linux after having to suffer with windows for 2 months08:08
crimsuntonyyarusso: I have no idea08:08
nik__I am also trying to completely switch to linux08:08
nik__its hard though08:08
DotheGuruin what way?08:08
nik__some things are so painful08:08
GTroynik_: not that hard08:08
nik__because I dont know how to do them08:09
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DotheGurulike?08:09
thoreauputicnik__: it gets easier :)08:09
nik__for example08:09
GTroynik_: you can ask here08:09
breadhi there08:09
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owner989uname -r08:09
owner9892.6.14-ck108:09
nik__how do you upgrade totem08:09
smoThat reminds me; for anyone familiar with ubuntu on ppc, would you consider a g4 400 fast enough to run a javascript application in firefox comfortably?08:09
nik__i cant play ANYTHING08:09
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breadevery so often, my ubuntu 5.10 (using gnome) Xorg will crash08:09
thoreauputicnik__: have you read the RestrictedFormats wiki ?08:09
nik__what is that?08:10
GTroynik_: have you tried cedega?08:10
breadand i can only use the computer by sshing in and restarting gdm/killing Xorg or rebooting the puter08:10
nik__whats that?08:10
tonyyarussocrimsun, Is it the sort of thing that would be considered a bug, and might be being worked on for Dapper or Dapper+1, or just my own stupid fault for messing something up?  (It was fine two days ago.)08:10
steven_anyway to make k3b support mp3 to audio cd burn?08:10
GTroyallows you to play windoze games08:10
thoreauputic!tell nik__ about restricted08:10
breadthere are no errors in ~/.xsession-errors, none in Xorg.0.log and none in gdm.log :(08:10
intelikey!restricted formats08:10
ubotuwell, restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'08:10
Aviatrixienik... the best way to migrate is to either pull your XP HD or to slick your XP drive and install linux.08:10
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breadanyone have any idea what it happens?08:10
owner989it does steven08:10
owner989alreayd08:10
owner989already08:10
intelikeyoops sorry thoreauputic i lag08:10
breadwhen i run top, Xorg which has supposedly crashed is using 99% of the cpu08:10
thoreauputic:)08:10
phreak97garry, i've installed the drivers for tv out support, do you know how i can set up dual monitor support?08:10
alekzhi, how can i extract some cd songs and save them like mp3 ?08:10
loginkingmy laptop have a built in media reader is there any drivers or packages i need t odownload for it to work?08:10
crimsuntonyyarusso: if it worked before, then it'll be problematic to blame solely on X.Org08:10
owner989mp3 ripper alekz08:11
loginking6 in 1 media reader08:11
AviatrixieI'm totally linux now. I'm making it work.08:11
breadhello?08:11
DotheGurusound juicer08:11
smologinking, have you tried it?  mine 'Just Works'08:11
alekzowner989, can u recommend me one pls08:11
loginkingyeah i just put in the sd card and nothing happened08:11
garryphreaks97 in the readme that comes with the linux drivers from www.nvidia.com there is info on how to set up duel monitors.08:11
crimsuntonyyarusso: I'd binary-search backward through any config/package/hardware changes you've made08:11
AviatrixieJuicer is a ripper. xmms works better for streaming08:11
tonyyarussocrimsun, Right.  Tried looking before; came up with nothing.08:11
phreak97thanks08:11
owner989there is KAudioCreator08:11
garrywelcome08:12
alekzthanks owner989 :)08:12
AviatrixieGet Automatix.08:12
breadcan anyone actually even see what im writing? :(08:12
thoreauputic!automatix08:12
ubotuit has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!08:12
revmooi can08:12
AviatrixieAnd study the scrirt.08:12
loginkingi have been trying to figure out how make my wifi button light up and now i just found another task and thats to get my media reader t owork..any info out there relating to the two mentioned issues08:12
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|Lestat|can anyone help me with a dpkg / apt-get problem? :)08:12
leather_n_luvbread: hey, wasssup?08:13
DotheGuruwhat is it?08:13
owner989ubotu, automatix is better than before i believe08:13
ubotu...but automatix is already something else...08:13
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thoreauputic|Lestat|: just ask08:13
owner989it no longer touches root or uses --force08:13
breadnobody can help? :(08:13
Squee-Dhehe08:13
revmoobread: how does it crash, does it freeze with everything on the screen, does it reboot, does it just blink out, what08:13
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leather_n_luvubotu, bill_gates looks like a businessman...08:14
AviatrixieBe careful with Automatix... it can trash your install.08:14
ubotuI haven't a clue, leather_n_luv08:14
Madpilotowner989: ubotu is a bot :P08:14
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Aviatrixiebut it is sweet08:14
owner989ya i know lol08:14
Madpilot!ubotu08:14
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.08:14
owner989!obotu08:14
ubotuowner989: Bugger all, i dunno08:14
intelikey|Lestat| what issue/error ?08:14
breadrevmoo, it just freezes with everything on the screen. i can ssh in and restart gdm/x, or reboot the computer but CTRLALTBKSPCE and CTRLALTF1 dont work08:14
leather_n_luvbread: what's your deal with x again?08:14
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|Lestat|thoreu: i thought i did ;)08:14
thoreauputicowner989: ubotu is pedantic about spelling ;)08:14
arahow do i make a .bin file work?08:15
breadand when i do a "top" Xorg is running at 99% cpu08:15
steven_does audio file conversion even work08:15
steven_in k3b?08:15
|Lestat|uhm the issue is i cannot install any programs with apt-get or with adept08:15
steven_it tells me every single kind of file isn't supporte08:15
revmoobread: what kinda video are u using, accelerated 3d, vesa, what08:15
breadthere are no errors in Xorg.0.log, gdm.log or ~/.xsession-errors08:15
tonyyarussoWell, I certainly have more information than yesterday.  That's always nice.08:15
|Lestat|i was doing an install with adept when my machine died and it hasent worked since then08:15
thoreauputic|Lestat|: what specifically do you need to know about dpkg/apt ?08:15
breadrevmoo, im pretty sure its just standard "nv" driver08:15
owner989do apt-get update08:15
owner989and apt-get dist-upgrade08:15
|Lestat|how i can reinstall it ;)08:15
|Lestat|i did apt-get update08:15
|Lestat|and apt-setup08:15
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breadyep revmoo just standard nv driver08:16
breadi tried installing the nvidia-kernel module but when i "modprobe nvidia" it says no such device08:16
revmooyou shouldnt have to08:16
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thoreauputic|Lestat|: so far we don't have much info to go on...08:16
breadrevmoo, any ideas?08:16
revmooif i recall, nv is the generic nvidia right? so you might want to try the real deal which means you need to get that working08:16
GTroybread: have you tried modprobe nvidia -l?08:16
smo|Lestat|, does it throw any specific errors you can share?  That'd help a little more than "it's broke".  We need to atleast know where it hurts :)08:17
|Lestat|when i do apt-get dist-upgrade i get an error reading package lists08:17
owner989sounds like your sources.list is messed up lestat08:17
GTroydon't know, but that's how to find bad ndiswrapper installs for me08:17
phreak97ok, anyone willing to help me out with setting up a second monitor?08:17
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thoreauputic!sources08:17
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:17
breadGTroy, that just lists the modules path?08:17
steven_can somone help me with k3b?08:17
thoreauputic|Lestat|: ^^^08:17
linuzoIs there a way to install mplayer on ubuntu with apt-get?08:17
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revmooya08:17
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loginkingwow i really want to make a full switch but the hassle of wpa & now my media reader not being recognised is making it tough08:18
loginkingdammit08:18
|Lestat|well i deleted my /var/chache/something/source and it seemd to work but then started spitting ut nasty stuff at me, so i copied the old one back, and it went back to the same problem, which is when i try to use apt i get an error when it is reading the packages08:18
revmooapt-get install mplayer should work...08:18
thoreauputic!info mplayer-58608:18
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB08:18
nik__ok I installed the codecs at the restriced codecs page and it still wont play a simple WMV08:18
|Lestat|i think my sources.list is good, it'll grab them all, it's just when it is processing them08:18
intelikeylinuzo you might consider vlc  also.08:18
thoreauputic|Lestat|: erm - you deleted something crucial, sounds like08:18
linuzosays couldn't find poackage mplayer08:19
nik__can someone walk me through this or what?08:19
linuzovlc?08:19
thoreauputiclinuzo: read what ubotu said08:19
breadi get this in dmesg when i modprobe nvidia08:19
|Lestat|i just moved that one file, then put it back later.. but maybe i did08:19
phreak97wheres the X config file?08:19
thoreauputiclinuzo: you need to specify - like mplayer-58608:19
GnarlyBob/etc/X11/xorg.conf08:19
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nik__can someone please help me?08:20
|Lestat|hmm08:20
thoreauputiclinuzo: and you need the multiverse repository08:20
Madpilotnik__: are you using Totem?08:20
phreak97thanks08:20
nik__yes08:20
linuzoCouldn't find package mplayer-58608:20
linuzooh08:20
|Lestat|is there anyway for apt or dpkg to rebuild it's database?08:20
thoreauputic!tell linuzo about repos08:20
Madpilotnik__: try totem-xine, I (and many others!) find it works far better08:20
nik__how do I do that08:20
nik__I am completely noob08:20
Madpilotnik__: in Synaptic, search for totem-xine, select it and hit Apply08:21
thoreauputicnik__: look for totem-xine in the synaptic package manager and install it08:21
tonyyarussoSay, some of the people at the top in Ubuntu/Canonical have some $$; what are the odds they could convince groups like linuxant with it to allow drivers to be included for free?  (Pondering while reading http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82608)08:21
steven_how can i test to see if my cd drive is functioning properly08:21
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Madpilot!tell nik__ about synaptic08:21
smo|Lestat|: Try "apt-cache gencaches"08:21
|Lestat|ok08:21
thoreauputictonyyarusso: need to be "free as in freedom" as well08:21
smo(with root/sudo as appropriate)08:21
nik__ok thanks I will try that right now08:22
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tonyyarussothoreauputic, Right.  Maybe if they were convinced to collaborate rather than work separately or something?08:22
|Lestat|E: unable to parse packae file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1)08:22
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steven_how can i test to see if my cd drive is functioning properly08:22
|Lestat|is what i get whn i do an apt-cache gencaches08:22
Wilfany reason why ubuntu showed my windows network right straight after it installed, but now shows nothing?08:23
Linfani just removed rhythmbox and gnome desktop was removed what functionality will i loose08:23
smo|Lestat|: do either of /var/lib/dpkg/status or status-old exist?08:23
Linfanmy media card reader is not woring but im not sure if it worked before08:23
|Lestat|yes both do08:23
thoreauputic|Lestat|:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a08:23
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linuzothoreauputic, I love the way they setup ubuntu.. easy to use..08:24
steven_how can i test to see if my cd drive is functioning properly08:24
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|Lestat|oh thats doing something08:24
thoreauputiclinuzo: I like it too :)08:24
Madpilotsteve__: put a CD in it?08:24
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thoreauputic|Lestat|: that command really reconfigures *everything*08:25
|Lestat|awsome08:25
steven_Madpilot, i mean like for writing, a test?08:25
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thoreauputic|Lestat|: somewhat drastic08:25
nik__hey madpilot so how do I get to that new totem now that I have installed it08:25
|Lestat|think it'll work?08:25
quacorezxanyone willing to offer a little help to a noob?08:25
|Lestat|hey i got no cdrom on this computer, it was an uphill battle getting this on here08:25
smoInteresting dpkg-foo .. I would have been tempted to simply replace status with status-old.  Always nice to learn a new trick08:25
thoreauputic|Lestat|: note that it will also ask you to set a root password, IIRC08:25
|Lestat|so somewhat drastic not involving taking this thing apart and switching hds around isnt too bad08:25
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Wstylisthey anyone tried Puppylinux?08:26
thoreauputic|Lestat|: it's worth a try at least08:26
Madpilotnik__: it'll replace your existing Totem seamlessly08:26
|Lestat|i tried status with status-old, i would get errors like dpkg isnt installed and lib6c isnt installed and etc08:26
quacorezxlike...how do you end X server (CTRL+ALT+BACK only causes it to reboot, after all...)08:26
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thoreauputicWstylist: yes - quite nice08:26
|Lestat|ctrl-alt-f108:26
Wstylistit looks good08:26
thoreauputic|Lestat|: woah - sounds terminal08:26
Wstylisteasy to use?08:26
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quacorezxLestat: that switches to console mode, it doesn't close X server08:27
|Lestat|i wanna get this bluetooth server out here too hehe08:27
thoreauputicWstylist: pretty basic, but responsive08:27
|Lestat|oh ok08:27
Sepheebearquacorezx: sudo killall Xorg08:27
nik__Can someone tell me how to get to totem-xine after I have installed it?08:27
|Lestat|i use it to logon as root and kill all x servers ;)08:27
albackerguys im compiling kernel.. how do i know which chipset should i choose ?????08:27
quacorezxSepheebear: I tried that but Xorg restarted all on its own08:27
smoquacorezx: you can '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' once you're on a terminal, however (or kdm, if kde)08:27
quacorezxsmo: couldn't I just killall gdm then?08:28
nik__Can someone tell me how to get to totem-xine after I have installed it?08:28
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thoreauputicalbacker:  uname -m  - but why are you compiling a kernel?08:28
Sepheebearquacorezx yeah it doesnt wanna die08:28
smoquacorezx: I'm not sure.  gdm seems to run as more than one process, and I'm never sure which is responsible for respawning what.  Better to stop it graviously08:28
albackerthoreauputic, because ive had some problems, and i dont have kpkg installed08:28
Madpilotnik__: you don't have to do anything special, your existing Totem just becomes totem-xine, more or less08:28
Sepheebearstop gdm then kill Xorg08:28
nik__ic08:28
quacorezxhmm, alright, sounds easy enough08:28
Linfanis there any digitsal media reader drivers out there? can somebody please help08:29
linuzo!easysource08:29
ubotu[easysource]  For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:29
izm81the label for my usb external drive seems to be corrupt and preventing it from being mounted.  any ideas?  is this a HAL issue?08:29
quacorezxafter all that, anyone know how I can find my way back to gnome?08:29
albackeri68608:29
albackerroot@madgeek:/boot # uname -a08:29
albackerLinux madgeek 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Tue Aug 30 22:41:30 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux08:29
quacorezxwithout a reboot, though that works too08:29
thoreauputicnik__: totem-xine is just totem with a different engine :)08:29
alekzhi i have a problem trying to remove a package, who can help me ?08:29
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smoquacorezx: '/etc/init.d/gdm start' will fire it straight back up again08:29
quacorezxahh, wonderful08:29
quacorezxthanks smo08:29
nik__HOLY SHIT IT ALL WORKS08:29
Madpilotnik__: start Totem, and go Help --> About - if it says something about xine-lib, then you're running totem-xine08:29
tonyyarussoalekz: Describe the problem.08:29
nik__crap sorry about all caps, I just got excited08:29
nik__windows can go to hell! Thats one less temptation08:30
linuzoI updated to community reposistories Universe and Multiverse and I can't apt-get install mplayer or mplayer-58608:30
alekztonyyarusso, take a look here is the output: http://pastebin.com/48260708:30
thoreauputicnik__: heheh08:30
Linfannik lucky you08:30
nik__ty everyone08:30
Linfani been batlting with ubuntu all day trying to have everything functional08:30
nik__well I dont have everything functional but at least now I can listen to music and watch movies08:30
nik__good stuff08:31
linuzomaybe I should just compile from scratch..08:31
DotheGuruambitious08:31
nik__Thanks again everyone, especially you madpilot.08:31
Linfanohh i have that already im trying to have my media reader functional08:31
tonyyarussoalekz: Interesting.  What does sudo apt-get -f install tell you it's going to do?  (Check it before continuing!  I never hosed a system that way....no, never)08:31
Madpilotnik__: no problem - have fun!08:32
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alekztonyyarusso, apt-get install or remove ?08:32
smoLinfan, can you plug a card in, then post 'dmesg | tail' to pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )?  I'd hope there to be some garb about hotplug, usb-storage, usb.c and such .. it should all just happen08:32
tonyyarussoalekz: install.  It forces correction of dependencies and other magic like that.08:32
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alekztonyyarusso, let me try08:33
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tonyyarussoI had a thought re: my console switching thing.  I should try killing my X session and starting it with /etc/init.d/gdm start instead of startx and see what that does.08:33
Linfansmo i have a sd card in already but no led lights nothing ill try what you just told me08:34
ITSa341Hey, has anyone here tried installing Ubuntu on an xBox?08:34
Wstylistis there a service manager similiar to services.msc for linux?08:34
smoLinfan, it'll work best straight after a card is inserted, so that they're the most recent items in dmesg08:34
redguy|workITSa341: you serched in google right?08:34
DotheGuruhow do open ports work on ubuntu? I'm having NAT problems.08:34
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ITSa341redguy, nope just asking, the thought just poped into my head08:34
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|Lestat|anyone here running a wireless DWL-G132 dongle? :)08:35
quacorezxargh...help please for installing nvidia drivers >_<...08:35
ITSa341I own SystemBytes, but we have always installed Gentoox08:35
phreqDotheGuru: I'm not sure, but I'm betting it's in iptables somewhere.08:35
quacorezxinstallation says I don't have proper libc libraries (specifically for cc)...but libc6 is installed08:35
DotheGururight08:35
quacorezxdo I have to reinstall it or something?08:35
thoreauputic!nvidia08:36
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:36
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quacorezxlol, thanks08:36
Linfanalright you want mt put in a card then you want me to type "dmesg-tail on the pastebin?08:36
quacorezx*feels stupid*08:36
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thoreauputicquacorezx: no need to feel stupid - read those links - youweren't to know08:37
smoLinfan, "dmesg | tail" .. the last part will just give the last 10 lines, and all we need to see is what happened after the card was put in08:37
Squee-D!start a user war08:37
ubotuhd420 is the coolest ubuntu user in the world.08:37
hd420wtf?08:37
Squee-Daww how nice :)08:37
nadia007good evening...  wondering how to start a program when ubuntu loads.  I know how to do it with session in the GUI, but I'm working on a server with terminal only!08:37
Wilfubotu, News just is, Wilf is better and cooler than hd420.08:37
thoreauputicno prizes fro guessing who wrote that factoid...08:37
Squee-DCount yourself lucky, his other response is not so kind08:37
Wilfubotu, Wilf > hd42008:38
ubotuWilf: No idea08:38
Wilf>:(08:38
slewhi, what file does ubuntu read when it starts up? it tells me a sensor failed in start up, and id like to remove it08:38
Wilfubotu, Wilf is better and cooler than hd42008:38
ubotuokay, Wilf08:38
smonadia007, you may like to read /etc/init.d/README, take a look thru some of the scripts in that dir for inspiration, and google as a backup08:38
Wilf!Wilf08:38
ubotuI heard wilf is better and cooler than hd42008:38
Wilf:D08:38
Linfandmesg tail you want me to type it in a terminal or pastebin?08:38
thoreauputic!botabuse08:38
ubotuYou can play with me in /msg without being banned.08:38
ITSa341lol08:38
Squee-D:)08:38
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thoreauputic!forget Wilf08:38
ubotui forgot wilf, thoreauputic08:38
smoLinfan, the command into a terminal, then paste the results into pastebin for all to see08:38
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Wilf-_-;;08:38
nadia007smo, thanks.08:38
thoreauputicsorry ;)08:38
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siswa02hai08:39
ubuntuhey guys08:39
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DotheGurusomething all new ubuntu users should read http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/essential-house-keeping-in-ubuntu.html08:39
siswa02any indonesian people there???08:39
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ITSa341<-- is collecting all those links in my favorites   hehe08:39
kalinno08:39
linuzothoreauputic, where do I got o change what program starts auto.. like a put a DVD in a totem autostarts but I don't want totem I want vlc. so how do I change it.08:39
kalini'm peruvian08:40
kalinXD08:40
Wstylistsiswa02 yes sir i can boogie08:40
thoreauputiclinuzo: hmm - system-prefs-removable media I think08:40
kalini wanna play Gunbound over linux!08:40
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redguy|workkalin: write to it's authors :-)08:41
phreqCedega08:41
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Linfanok i posted the results under linuxfanatic0108:41
linuzok thanks thoreauputic08:41
kalini did08:41
phreqkalin: Cedega will run almost any Windows game on Linux.08:41
thoreauputiclinuzo: no worries :)08:41
kalinbut they never replied me!08:41
ubuntui just booted in livecd how would i be able to mount my harddrive?08:41
phreqWhat type is it?08:41
kalinuhmmm cedega???08:41
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thoreauputicubuntu:  mount /dev/hda /media08:42
|Lestat|anyone here running a wireless dongle DWL-G13208:42
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ubuntuthoreauputic, i'll try that08:42
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slewhi, what file does ubuntu read when it starts up? it tells me a sensor failed in start up, and id like to remove it08:42
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thoreauputicubuntu: sorry  mount /dev/hda1  or whatever the partition is08:42
siswa02jalo08:42
phreqIt's a program which gives Windows APIs and such to games that need them.08:42
siswa02hLO08:42
ubuntuthoreauputic, ok08:42
siswa02HALO08:42
Linfanfrom the pastebin we can download the files?08:42
phreqBuilt specifically for gaming, unlike wine.08:42
kalini havve ubuntu08:42
thoreauputicubuntu: then open /media and you should see your hard drive stuff08:42
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thoreauputicubuntu: you might need sudo before that command08:43
phreqGoogle it... I didn't hear about it 'till a few days ago myself.08:43
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phreqOr I would tell you more. :P08:43
thoreauputicie the mount command08:43
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siswa02hai08:44
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kalinmmmmm?08:44
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kalinr u talking to me???08:44
smoLinfan, that has me stumped .. it doesn't mention any activity when you add the card.  do either of lspci or lsusb identify mention anything resembling the device?08:44
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siswa02hai guys08:45
Linfan identification at all when i insert the card08:45
Linfanno08:45
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Linfanit reads my ipod my treo 650 my cds everything but the card reader is not being recognised and thats what i use the most08:46
|Lestat|anyone here running wireless usb dongles that would help me get mine working? :)08:46
Linfanis even reading my apple mighty mouse is weird08:46
Linfanprobably something i did wrong i bet-i mean everything else is workinf08:47
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martii|Lestat|: whats the problem?08:47
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martii|Lestat|: recognised by usb subsystem?08:47
intelikeyhmmm cant grub-install /dev/hda   E: /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.     ?08:48
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tonyyarussosmo, I may have something of interest for you.08:49
falarishihi~~08:49
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intelikeyanyone know the cause of this error ?08:49
tonyyarussosmo, /var/log/gdm/:0.log has the following in it:08:49
|Lestat|martii: i cant seem to get my DWL-G132 working08:49
smointelikey, is hda mentioned in /boot/grub/device.map  ?08:50
tonyyarussosmo, (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap08:50
tonyyarussosmo, After some other stuff, but I didn't want to paste it all.08:50
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martii|Lestat|: tell me is system found this dongle08:50
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vnpavenhello everybody!!!08:50
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intelikeysmo  no that's it.  it used long listings    i.e.  (hd0)   /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc08:51
|Lestat|well i had it in windows before and i located the dongle. didnt get it working cazu windows in fucked. i used ndiswrapper to try getting it to work08:51
intelikeyty smo08:51
tonyyarussosmo, So it looks like we have the same error after all.08:52
vnpavenhow to manage (monitor, report if have errors, ...) OS daemon processes?08:52
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smotonyyarusso, yup I see the same (and some stuff about not finding "xfree86" keycodes include, which looks highly relevant)08:52
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freelovewhat command cleans the apt cache?08:53
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Toma-apt-get clean08:53
dbzdeathwhat's a good curses based ftp client? that can use PASV08:54
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tonyyarussosmo: Mine's "No symbols found", looking in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/ and its subfolders.08:54
thoreauputicdbzdeath: I don't know about curses, but lftp is a good cli client08:55
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revmoogdm is a login manager08:56
thoreauputicdbzdeath: $ apt-cache search ncurses | grep ftp08:56
thoreauputicncftp - A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client08:56
rjordanyay for ndiswrapper08:56
DotheGuruwhat is a good port range to use for bittorrent?08:57
ITSa341automatix looks pretty interesting08:57
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DotheGuru6881-6889 is not working for me08:58
thoreauputic!automatix08:58
ubotuautomatix is, like, totally, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!08:58
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falarishello~08:58
ITSa341ok  point made08:58
smotonyyarusso, not sure how much it helps you, but I get the same log messages (and problems) from startx08:58
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tonyyarussosmo, Odd.  startx was fine for me.08:59
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thoreauputicDotheGuru: it varies with who knows what - patience is involved09:00
DotheGuruill work at it then09:00
QQ_ghosti know alot about lilo, but almost no one ehre is going to have it installed09:00
MadpilotDotheGuru: for bittorrent, there's a standard set of ports - google should tell you more09:01
DotheGuruhow about azureus?09:01
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MadpilotDotheGuru: and if you're trying to open ports for BT, firestarter has BT as one of it's standard settings09:01
SepheebearDotheGuru: azureus is fine but check your router to make sure the right BT ports are open09:02
DotheGurui found that, but I had assumed that bittorrent was refferring to all clients09:02
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DotheGuruSo are there any ports that work a majority of the time?09:03
sampandotheguru  you just need to make sure that firestarter and your bt client have the same ports allowed ("for everyone") -- and make sure you set firestarter to write policy changes immediately (preferences somewhere)09:03
thoreauputicdoesn't bittorrent use a standard set of ports/09:03
Sepheebearim not sure why you would need firestarter to open a port thats not even blocked in the first place09:03
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thoreauputicSepheebear: firestarter closes everything by default09:03
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DotheGuruthats probably it09:04
thoreauputicyou have to open stuff selectively09:04
Sepheebearbut its not installed by default09:04
ITSa341bbiab09:04
DotheGuruthanks sampan09:04
sampanit closes all INCOMING automatically.  outgoing is all allowed.09:04
dejnoiany body home?09:04
thoreauputicSepheebear: correct09:04
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sampandotheguru  yw :)09:04
thoreauputicsampan: also correct09:04
dejnoihi09:04
dejnoiall09:04
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sampanor i should say: "by default".  it'll do anything you tell it to do "automatically" i suppose ;/09:05
dejnoii'm a new ubantu usere09:05
Sepheebearmy mistake, joined in too late in the thread09:05
Linfanhow to bring back the default bootskin for ubuntu instead of the text being displayed09:05
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intelikeybootsplash09:06
thoreauputicLinfan:  sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so09:07
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Sepheebearoh i thought it was dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)09:08
thoreauputicSepheebear: yes, there are at least two ways09:08
quacorezxhey...could someone help me09:08
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thoreauputicSepheebear: the way I gave I saw on the users list - seems easier09:08
quacorezxI'm trying to install nvidia drivers using the .run file from the nvidia website09:08
quacorezxbut it says that since my kernel was compiled in gcc 3.409:09
quacorezxand I'm currently using 4.0, it may have errors...09:09
phreak97is there a rename command in the console?09:09
quacorezxso how do I change my variable to put 3.4 as the main?09:09
thoreauputicquacorezx: use the RestrictedFormats wiki method09:09
Sepheebearsounds cool i've got to try that out09:09
phreak97cos its not in my linux book thing09:09
thoreauputic!nvidia09:09
ubotuI guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736809:09
quacorezxusing synaptic?09:09
quacorezxthe version there is older than nvidia's though09:09
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quacorezxI'm eager to install the 8x.xx series drivers09:10
Sepheebearquacorezx: that version is also tested with ubuntu, that helps09:10
quacorezxso it works, yes...09:10
Sepheebearmuch less headaches than with the raw nvidia version09:10
quacorezxwait..hmmm...09:10
Sepheebeari use it09:11
quacorezxmaybe I'll just configure the driver myself, instead of using nvidia's script09:11
quacorezxthink that would work better instead of worrying about gcc 3.4/4.0 inconsistency?09:11
quacorezxor should I just try and change...I don't even know what variable, to use gcc 3.4 temporarily09:11
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Sepheebearquacorezx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2909:11
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owner989does firestarter show as a process09:11
coNPHow can I automagically open uris with the 'irc' scheme? Both Firefox and Galeon say that this protocol isn't associated with any programs. How could I do that?09:12
thoreauputicowner989: only if the GUI is running I think09:12
thoreauputicowner989: but you only need the GUI for monitoring or configuration09:12
owner989whats the name of the gui, so i can run it from a command line09:12
sampanowner989  unlike windows firewalls, a linux firewall doesn't have to keep running.  it writes an iptables (rules for routing packets) and then exits, unless you keep it up to watch the little indicator flash every time a packet is dropped09:12
thoreauputicthe rest is just iptables09:12
Sepheebeardoes firestarter configure iptables or is it something else?09:13
intelikeyQ: which boot loader do i have installed?     A: dd if=/dev/hda count=1 2>/dev/null | cut -b6-10 | grep -m1 -aie [a-z] 09:13
Sepheebearoh09:13
thoreauputicyes it writes an iptables script09:13
quacorezxSepheebear, the wiki only gives me how to install the binary from the repository though...09:13
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sampanit's just a frontend for iptables09:13
intelikeyowner989 startx09:13
quacorezxhow about installing it locally?09:13
youngcoderis dalnet down?09:13
youngcoderanyone use dalnet?09:14
Sepheebearquacorezx yes that's the supported method, lots of intelligent ppl worked hard to make that method work more or less09:14
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thoreauputicowner989: you can run the GUI with gksudo firestarter09:14
quacorezxSepheebear, well, yes, it does work, I know, but only up to 76.67 works doesn't it?09:14
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quacorezxor is availible, I mean09:14
Linfanthoreauputic, i tried what you advised but it says that there is only 1 program wich provides usplash-artwork.so (usr/lib/usplash-default.so) nothing to configure09:14
youngcoderxester, hey09:14
Linfanand i dont know of any other bootloader for ubuntu09:15
Linfani dont want t osee text09:15
Linfanlol09:15
xesterhi youngcoder :-)09:15
sampantext is beautiful!09:15
DotheGuruI'm still getting NAT erros09:15
|Lestat|ndiswrapper seems to have y drivers installed, but when i do an ifconfig i see nothing except "lo". am i missing a crutial step?09:15
thoreauputicLinfan: hmm - OK try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)  then09:15
youngcoderi cant get a connection to Dalnet thi is soooo weird09:15
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owner989i installed the 2.6.14 kernel09:15
Sepheebearquacorezx im using the latest drivers from dapper and there's not much difference09:15
quacorezxfrom...dapper o.o?09:16
Linfanok i see it said searching for splash image...none found? where is it supposed to be?09:16
Linfanon what direcotry09:16
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thoreauputicLinfan: ignore that09:17
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youngcoderanyone here us privoxy?09:17
thoreauputicLinfan: it says that but when you reboot it should be there09:17
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Linfancool thanks-one day i will master this linux stuff09:17
thoreauputicLinfan: at least it was for me ;)09:17
nadeemhello09:17
|Lestat|like do you have to edit a file like interfaces in /etc/network before it'll see an interface?09:17
thoreauputicLinfan: this one is a bit arcane :)09:17
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Linfanthoreauputic, do you know where i can find a working dock for ubuntu where everything minimizes to it? so that i can get rid of the bottom panel09:18
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SepheebearLinfan why not just get rid of the bottom panel?09:18
thoreauputicLinfan: it isn't exactly intuitive that you need tomess with the kernel to get a boot splash ;) re: Dock - I don't quite follow you09:18
pmCould anyone help me? If I want to remove a package and its config files I type apt-get remove <packagename> --purge, but what command should I use if some packages depend on the package I want to remove, and I want to remove their config filesl as well?09:19
intelikeyLinfan right click on your dock and unlock it then drag it to the top panel and remove the bottom one.09:19
smoI believe he's looking for OS X's behaviour rather than the window list09:19
PsycoEwokHey guys, i'm having some serious issues with getting Ubuntu to even install. Would anyone be willing to help? :|09:19
smounless I read the terms wrong ;)09:19
PsycoEwokMy kernel panics while trying to install :|09:20
|Lestat|argle09:20
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aaronHello there09:20
Linfanlike a mac dock where i have my commonly used programs and open windows displayed-if i get rid of the bottom panel how would i see the open windows?09:20
intelikeyLinfan right click on your dock and unlock it then drag it to the top panel and remove the bottom one.09:20
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WilfPsyberOne, mine did the same thing09:20
thoreauputicLinfan: different metaphors in linux and OS-X09:21
Wilfturned out to be bad ram.09:21
SepheebearLinfan you can add the Window Selector panel applet09:21
intelikeytry it you'll like it.09:21
aaronI am downloading the ubuntu live CD, and ive never used linux before, but I understand i need ndis for my wifi card, my quesiton is: how do i get ndis on the live cd??09:21
|Lestat|no one ehre experienced in usb wireless dongles? :)09:21
PsycoEwokI've already performed the memory test, it ran 3 passes with no problem09:21
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Linfani have been trying to access xcompmgr....how hard is it to add drop shadows o windows?09:22
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SepheebearPsycoEwok: does it panic while installing or while booting up?09:22
Linfani did what you told me with the bottom panel09:22
Linfanthanks09:22
Madeyeguys, is there anyway to create PDF form under linux ?09:22
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HrdwrBoByes09:22
MadeyeHrdwrBoB, How?09:23
thoreauputicMadeye: make a form in Open Office and save it as PDF ?09:23
PsycoEwokSepheebear: While installing09:23
aaronhello? anyone09:23
deFryskyes09:23
Madeyethoreauputic, as simple as!09:23
aaron I am downloading the ubuntu live CD, and ive never used linux before, but I understand i need ndis for my wifi card, my quesiton is: how do i get ndis on the live cd??09:23
deFryskasa09:23
smoI haven't found anything under linux that'll create editable forms (or many people that have used them, for that matter)09:23
intelikeyLinfan that's the only way i can begin to stand gnome is incorperate the stuff in the two pannels into one and remove the other.  :)09:23
SepheebearPsycoEwok: does it panic at the same point all the time?09:23
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Sepheebearif its consistent that should give you clues to where the problem is09:24
PsycoEwokSepheebear: i can't tell really, I've only managed to catch the message once09:24
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PsycoEwoki just watched unpack things and all instead of watching the progress bar09:24
kalincould anybody tell me how to play gunbound on ubuntu????09:25
PsycoEwokbecause it had frozen on me during previous installation attempts09:25
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ian_ei09:25
kalinboo09:25
kalinboo09:25
ian_any one can help me out im new to linux and decided to use unbuntu since icant get suse 0 up and running09:25
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PsycoEwokafter it froze on me, i rebooted and it said that there were errors while installing the packages (obviously) and tells me to run dpkg --configure -a09:26
PsycoEwokso i do that09:26
Sepheebearso it did install somewhat?09:26
PsycoEwokand it does its thing, but it too will freeze up at some point09:26
PsycoEwokyeah most of the packages were installed09:26
ian_my pc has windows on its primary drive with 3 partitions in ntyfs.,..how do iaccess those files in ubuntu?09:26
PsycoEwokit fails at like, 90% or so09:26
PsycoEwokthis has happened to me with both the 32 bit and 64 bit versions09:27
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aaronntfs.09:27
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eobanb!ntfs09:27
ubotuwell, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK09:27
PsycoEwokactually the 64 bit version installed better, because i could actually manage to get a gui and login and all09:27
PsycoEwokbut it too will just freeze up at some point09:27
PsycoEwoksometimes it's so fast i don't even make it past the login screen09:27
Sepheebearyoure on 64-bit?09:27
ian_well i wont be writing just to play my audio and video files.09:27
PsycoEwoki have an AMD64, yes09:28
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eobanbsure, ian_ just go through that tutorial.09:28
Linfanhow do i search my computer for files under ubuntu?09:28
intelikeyLinfan find09:28
Kindredany ideas on how to make apt-get use less bandwidth? :|09:28
Linfanon a terminal cool09:29
intelikeyLinfan what you looinig for ?09:29
SepheebearPsycoEwok: id likely redo the whole partition/install09:29
PsycoEwokseph that's what i've BEEN doing :|09:29
PsycoEwokevery time09:29
intelikeycome on Linfan let me help just a little....09:29
kalini have an AMD64 like yours but i dont think i'm working on 64 bits....09:29
intelikeyplease please....09:29
Linfani just installed ksmoothdock just to see how it will function09:29
PsycoEwoki've only tried the 32bit version once so far09:29
Linfanbut i dont know where it actually goes for me to start it09:30
Sepheebeari just dont quite see enough info to go on09:30
PsycoEwokbut i've completely installed the 64bit version at least 5 times now09:30
ian_im real new to linux i got disappointed with using suse 9.3 and 10...i installed it and reinstalled so many times it always breaks down...i dotn know if it is my hard ware but on windows my system can go up at 100% cpu load for 2 months straight no problems...09:30
PsycoEwokafter completely formatting09:30
ian_i hope i can learn ubuntu...it looks easier than suse though....09:30
FushiLinfan: find / -name whatyouarelookingfor09:30
intelikeyLinfan  find /usr -name "*somth*"09:30
|Lestat|can someone tell me if i have to edit my /etc/networ/interfaces files to get my wireless working with ndiswrapper?09:30
PsycoEwokeverytime with the 64bit version, it will completely freeze up at some point during use09:30
PsycoEwokalmost always within 10 minutes or less09:30
Sepheebeartry posting your hardware info to the ubuntu-users list, more heads there to work on it09:30
FushiOr what intelikey said is even better :P09:30
aaronHow do i get ndis on the live cd???!!!09:31
QQ_ghostian_: it is easier that suse...09:31
intelikeyFushi no need to search the whole box is there ?09:31
ian_welll im in the turotial now...where do i dpo this in the shell?09:31
kalinhelp me please i wanna play gunbound on ubuntu09:31
SepheebearPsycoEwok: one other thing to try is the expert install09:31
PsycoEwokSepheebear: alright, could you explain where that is though?09:31
PsycoEwokhmm09:31
Fushinope :)09:32
Sepheebearbut if youre getting kernel panics im not sure it'll be much help09:32
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PsycoEwoki'm no expert at linux though, unfortunately09:32
PsycoEwokI can paste the error message for you if you want09:32
PsycoEwokthough it might not tell you much09:32
Toma-Linfan: for a better + faster search result in future, use "sudo updatedb -a", then run "locate ksmoothdock"09:32
QQ_ghostian_: to mount your ntfs partitions?09:32
Toma-Linfan: also, "locate ksmoothdock | grep bin"09:32
Linfanalright i just did this udo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev libqt3-compat-headers kdelibs4-dev kdebase-dev. how t odelete it09:33
Linfani cant find what i was looking for09:33
SepheebearPsycoEwok: as the cd is booting there will be a place that you can type in "expert" to get to the expert install09:33
Toma-Linfan: same package names, but use "remove" instead of "install" after apt-get09:33
intelikeyToma- faster to update the database and then read it than check the /usr for the executable ????09:33
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PsycoEwokyes, I know that much, but I meant where is this ubuntu-users list that you were talking about :P09:33
Toma-intelikey: you know how fast locate is?09:33
Sepheebearoh09:34
ian_qq_ghost yes...i tried the command lines.... using the terminal an error went up. error 404 not found....first it tried conencting then that error showed up09:34
intelikeyyou know how slow updatedb is though09:34
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Toma-yeh. that why i said, it'll make future searches alot faster09:34
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Toma-:)09:34
PsycoEwokSepheebear: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6302  my error message09:34
SepheebearPsycoEwok: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users09:34
|Lestat|if lsusb detects a device, how can i find out what that devices interface name is?09:35
QQ_ghostian_: error 404? for mounting a partition?09:35
Toma-i like to run updatedb -a while reading my emails09:35
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|Lestat|anyone? :P09:35
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Toma-|Lestat|: id like to know that too :)09:36
ian_well i followed the tutorial it said i need to connect to some site to get the script first...09:36
Toma-|Lestat|: what kind of device is it?09:36
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PsycoEwokSepheebear: alright, thanks for the help09:36
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|Lestat|it is a usb wireless device09:36
QQ_ghost|Lestat|: did you try the device manager in X?09:36
Toma-also |Lestat|, lsusb doesnt mean a driver has been loaded for it yet09:36
|Lestat|uhm, no i dont think i have tried that09:36
SepheebearPsycoEwok: sorry never seen that error, google it though, might help09:37
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cptmorganis there a way to reconfigure ssh... i reinstall it but i can get configs :/09:37
PsycoEwokk09:37
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|Lestat|well, i loaded the driver with ndiswrapper, says the device is there, but i cant get iwconfig ir ifconfig to list the device09:37
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Morrowynmorning09:38
Toma-try restarting networking09:38
QQ_ghostian_: what tutorial was that? on-line or ...09:38
|Lestat|whats the command for that?09:38
Toma-/etc/init.d/networking restart09:38
ian_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions this one09:38
Morrowyni installed nvidia-glx but when i startx it totally hangs on me after X says: loading module nvidia09:38
Toma-Morrowyn: hangs?09:39
intelikeythat's one nasty error PsycoEwok,   i can't help but just commenting on it.09:39
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Toma-Morrowyn: have you tried tail'ing /var/log/messages?09:39
Linfancan somebody please tell me how to access xcompmgr09:39
Linfanso that i can set effects09:39
Morrowynyup, screen stays black, i cant cntrl-alt-backspace it09:39
QQ_ghostian_: what i do is put it in my fstab with noauto...09:39
Linfani have searched everywhere followed how tos but nothing09:39
|Lestat|i did the /et/init.d/networking restart but still nothing in ifconfig or iwconfig09:39
Toma-Morrowyn: and this is after you've switched to ctl-alt-f7?09:39
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|Lestat|i dont have the device in /etc/networking/interfaces, i dunno if its supposed to be in there09:40
ian_qq_ghost...sorry but im really new to linux how do i do that?09:40
Morrowynlinfan, i remember you need to add xcomp entries in xorg.conf set to true ....09:40
Toma-|Lestat|: have you tried using the networking tool in System > Admin?09:40
Morrowynno, i just run it from recovery mode startx09:40
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QQ_ghostian_: open a terminal09:40
Linfani followed the how to until it was time to set the settings-when i copied and pasted it kept saying not valid09:40
Toma-Linfan: its pretty unsupported at the moment. i wouldnt try it unless you knew exactly what u were doing.09:41
ian_yep i have one open now09:41
Linfanohh ok09:41
QQ_ghostian_: are you familiar with vi?09:41
Toma-Linfan: put your xorg.conf up on a pastebin and i might fix it for you ;)09:41
tjb13_hey can anyone help me get sleep to work on my thinkpad09:41
|Lestat|I have used the networking tool in kde, system > networking09:41
ian_no not really09:41
ian_all i know is simple commands....09:41
Morrowynxcomp is pretty slow, i ran it on kde for a while but the transparency stuff awefully slow, shadowing wasnt really stable as well, so i ditched it in the end09:41
Linfanhow to access the xorg file?09:41
QQ_ghostian_: but you know the basics?09:41
Toma-Linfan: :/09:42
ian_the very basics.... not the advance basics09:42
Linfanhahaha09:42
Morrowynlinfan , sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:42
Linfani just installed ubuntu tiday sorry09:42
Morrowynif you know what you are doing ofc09:42
Toma-Linfan: you sure you wanna try it? it may leave you with no gui and hence, no IRC + help09:42
Morrowynif not, dont touch it09:42
QQ_ghostian_: type sudo vi /etc/fstab09:42
Morrowyntoma, irssi :)09:42
ian_ok09:42
|Lestat|in network settings all i see is ppp009:42
Toma-irssi sux :O imho.09:42
intelikeynano   guys   nano09:42
gerald-voltis there a deb package for cedega?09:42
gerald-volti can't seem to find it in apt-cache09:42
ian_got it09:42
Linfanwell i just did what you told me and i have nothing but blue lines09:43
Toma-gerald-volt: yes, but you have to buy it from cedega09:43
Morrowynor any other cli irc client09:43
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gerald-voltis there a cvs version/09:43
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Sepheebearforget nano use pequeno09:43
Toma-gerald-volt: yep09:43
gerald-volti remember there was cvs-cedega09:43
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thoreauputicgerald-volt: you have to pay for cedega - unless you want to compile a cvs version yourself09:43
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ubuntuk09:43
QQ_ghostian_: go to the bottom line and go into INS mode09:43
ian_then a table went up listing my drives including cd rom dvd floppy and 2 partitions which ubuntu is in...09:43
gerald-voltwhere do i get the cvs version09:43
Linfanin the bottom it says "/etx/x11/xorg.conf" {new file}09:43
Morrowynis cedega free if you use a cvs version ?09:43
eobanbpequeno?09:43
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gerald-voltwhat's the difference between cvs and regular09:44
Morrowynlinfan , sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf   its case sensitive :)09:44
WilfLinfan, /etc/, not /etx/...09:44
Toma-gerald-volt: alot.09:44
ian_how do i get to INS mode|?09:44
thoreauputicI think there's a cvs version - but where to get it I don't know09:44
Morrowynselect - middle mouse click in terminal :)09:44
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QQ_ghostIan_: hit the insert key09:44
thoreauputicgerald-volt: cvs is normally the latest developmant version09:44
lampshadeHey, I'm building a kinda stereo machine, and although there are command line mp3 players, I want to have playlists, etc, so I figured I was going to install a window manager like XFce, I just wanted to ask the channel for suggestions or better ideas before I go ahead and do this09:44
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Toma-gerald-volt: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4509:45
Morrowynlampshade, i use xmms09:45
Toma-lampshade: dont use xfce.09:45
Morrowynbut there are other music players around09:45
ian_ok sorry about that09:45
thoreauputicguys, you are braver than me trying to talk someone new through using vi ;)09:45
|Lestat|Aparently with this driver config the inf files are supposed to be able to pull the firmware, but i dunno how to initialize the device.... stupid wireless09:45
Toma-lampshade: just have a script that starts X and xmms. maaaaaybe fluxbox. but you dont really need a WM09:46
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intelikeythoreauputic tell me.09:46
Morrowynhttp://www.eng.hawaii.edu/Tutor/vi.html  make the new someone read this :)09:46
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ian_ok whats next...09:46
intelikeyor WORD   or what ever the vernacular is for you.09:46
lampshadeToma-:  hmmm that's not a bad idea either.  I forgot about fluxbox09:46
thoreauputicintelikey: :)09:46
QQ_ghostIan_: it should say  -- INSERT -- at the bottom left...09:47
Toma-lampshade: you want the thinnest wm possible if anything :)09:47
ian_yep09:47
Toma-maybe even ratpoison09:47
ian_it has that09:47
Morrowynhttp://math.la.asu.edu/vi_tutorial/vi3.html  or this one if you dont wanna read a lot :)09:47
thoreauputicMorrowyn: vimtutor is not bad :)09:47
Morrowyndunno know about that one :)\09:47
lampshadeToma-:  how is xmms at things like playlists, library organization, basically, I'm looking for winamp for Linux.  I am also awaiting "SongBird" and am hoping that will be cross platform like Firefox09:47
Morrowyni used vi tutorial in google09:47
Morrowyn:)09:47
intelikeynano   :)09:47
QQ_ghostIan_: make a new line somewhere (preferably at the bottom)09:47
eclairlampshade: xmms is like winamp09:47
coNPemacs is the one true editor :)09:48
eclairlampshade: even the interface09:48
intelikey!start an editor war09:48
ubotuintelikey: Do they come in packets of five?09:48
Toma-lampshade: XMMS is great for playlists. its also non-DE specific like amarok and rhythmbox09:48
QQ_ghostubotu, start an editor war09:48
ian_yes09:48
Morrowynisnt vi the default unix editor and emacs not ?09:48
lampshadeeclair:  well, hopefully the "Media Library" area would be the same, something like wher I can choose an Artist and it displays only the songs from that artist like winamp does09:48
thoreauputicMorrowyn: well, yes - but the default in Ubuntu and debian is nano09:48
Morrowynis it?09:49
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intelikeyit is09:49
eclairlampshade: iirc, it does09:49
coNPMorrowyn: nano is the default09:49
lampshadesweet09:49
Toma-lampshade: beep media player is a bit better looking tho.09:49
eclairlampshade: although i am currently mainly using mpg321...09:49
Toma-lampshade: also, xmms and bmp both support winamp classic skins. not the modern ones tho :(09:49
Morrowyni always use vi , because every unix box has it, saves me swithcing back and forth09:49
Morrowynbetween editors and such09:50
QQ_ghostIan_: type /dev/(partition here)   /media/ntfs    ntfs  ro,user,noauto      0       009:50
ian_im at the bottom.... sorry but what do you mean by creating a new line09:50
thoreauputicMorrowyn: yes, a lot of people do that09:50
ian_ok09:50
coNPMorrowyn: you are right09:50
lampshadeVI for the win09:50
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QQ_ghostIan_: a new empty line09:50
intelikeyi always use mc -e   cause every linux box i mess with has mc on it  lol09:50
eclairMorrowyn: true true09:50
Toma-who cares about editors? its like comparing apples to oranges. personally i prefer bannanas. (eg, mc)09:51
lampshadeI take it fluxbox isn't in the normal repos?  my apt-cache search returned nothing promising.  World?09:51
ian_yep, wait with the command that you tyoped...(partition here) what partion name should i put there the windows partition name?09:51
QQ_ghosti LOVE vi damnit!!!09:51
thoreauputic!info fluxbox09:51
coNPI use "sudo apt-get install emacs21 && emacs" :)09:51
ubotufluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 757 kB, Installed size: 2684 kB09:51
Toma-lampshade: you need universe and multiverse09:51
sudhirhi I am mounting windows shared on ubuntu09:51
Morrowyn:)09:51
thoreauputiclampshade: universe09:51
sudhirbut gettu] ing error unknowns fs type09:51
lampshadethoreauputic:  thanks09:51
ian_or is it like the hda109:51
QQ_ghostian_: yup, the windows partition09:51
Toma-!info blackbox09:51
ubotublackbox: (Window manager for X), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.70.0-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 367 kB, Installed size: 1172 kB09:51
Morrowynwell sometimes you are on a box, where you are just a user and arent allowed to install anything ....09:52
otepsudhir: Places > Connect to server...09:52
eclairlampshade: want to try out wmaker too?09:52
sudhiri did  sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=sud //192.168.1.100/mp3 s09:52
QQ_ghostian_: it's the hd something, where windows is...09:52
Toma-window maker is too complex09:52
Toma-for a simple mp3 box09:52
ealdensudhir: s/smbfs/cifs ?09:52
sudhirit says wrong fs type :(09:52
lampshadeI've used fluxbox before and liked it so I will probably stick with it.  Especially since this is just a little stereo box,  mp3's and maybe a small webserver only on it.09:52
thoreauputicfor an mp3 box I would probably use blackbox - it's even lighter than fluxbox09:52
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eclairToma-: well, yeah. you are right... ratpoison maybe?09:53
Toma-yeh ratpoison i suggested before :D09:53
lampshadeblackbox eh?  I haven't even heard of that, I'll have to google it09:53
Toma-!info ratpoison09:53
sudhirealden : yeh09:53
uboturatpoison: (Simple window manager with no fat library dependencies), section universe/x11, is extra. Version: 1.3.0-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 109 kB, Installed size: 280 kB09:53
Morrowynfluxbox is nice09:53
ian_ok just to be clear.... i ahve two hard drives. first drive has windows c: d: e: , and on the second conatinign the f:,  how will i be able to name the partitions for windows?09:53
Toma-lampshade: thats another option &&09:53
thoreauputiclampshade: fluxbox is based on blackbox -they are quite similar09:53
Toma-see the installed size :D sweet09:53
eclairToma-: i didn't see that... i just caught part of the conversation :)09:54
sudhirwht might be the problem09:54
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QQ_ghostian_: what do you mean name the partitions for windows?09:54
Morrowynian, /dev/hda1 /hda2/hda3 prolly if you have an ide drive, sda1 etc. would be for sata drives and then mount then somewhere you like :)09:54
intelikeyian_ do      fdisk -l /dev/hda09:54
ealdensudhir: I think you should use cifs and not smbfs09:54
ian_i mean how will i know the exact name... like when i was installign ubuntu i while ago tags like hda1, hda2,hdb1 ....how will i be able to poitn out which is which... and which are existing...09:54
sudhirokie09:54
sudhirlet me try09:55
Morrowynunix doesnt work with c: drives since everything is a directory on unix, so you c: drive would be a directory somewhere on your filesystem, and thus ou need to mount it somewehre09:55
QQ_ghostealden: what is cifs?09:55
intelikeyian_ do      fdisk -l /dev/hda09:55
Morrowynfdisk -l :)09:55
sudhirealden : wow09:55
Toma-anyone know how to stop metacity from auto-reloading?09:55
sudhirealden : thanks it worked fine09:55
ealdenQQ_ghost: IIRC its the new name of smb09:55
ealdensudhir: cool :)09:55
youngcoderhow can i install this??  jre-1_5_0_01-linux-i586-rpm.bin09:56
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intelikeykillall gdm Toma-  :)09:56
thoreauputicyoungcoder: don't09:56
Morrowynsh <name> or ./<name>09:56
Toma-gdm?!09:56
sudhirealden : i never heard of cifs file system09:56
melodiehello :)09:56
ian_entered that on the same termianl at the buttom line nothing showed up09:56
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thoreauputic!tell youngcoder about java09:56
ealdensudhir: its smb renamed I think. common internet fs IIRC09:56
intelikeyToma- may not be what you want tho09:56
Morrowynbut you dont wanna do that on ubuntu :)09:56
QQ_ghostian_: open a new terminal and type fdisk -l /dev/hda09:56
ealdenyoungcoder: there is a howto on the wiki on installing java09:56
melodieI put a question on ubuntu at users, but no answer yet, about kernel-sources and kernel-headers09:56
Toma-intelikey: just wanna killall metacity, so i can run ratpoison instead :D just to try09:57
sudhirealden : coz when I checked in connct -->server -->properties, it said file system as smb09:57
ian_cannot open09:57
ian_cannot open /dev/hda09:57
coNPian_ try "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda"09:57
intelikeyToma- use ps  and  tree mode display   and kill what ever is calling metacity09:58
melodiedoes anyone here know what are the right packages to match with a 2.6.12-10-k709:58
melodie in order to get KQemu to compile correctly, please ?09:58
sudhirian : try fdisk -l /dev/sda09:58
ealdensudhir: from wikipedia: Microsoft coincidentally launched an initiative in 1998 to rename SMB to Common Internet File System (CIFS)09:58
QQ_ghostian_: sorry : /  forgot the sudo part....09:58
coNPsudhir: only root can do that :)09:58
ian_sudo :fdisk command not found09:58
melodieas the kernel-source in Synaptic (multiverse) is not the same number (2.6.11xx)09:58
thoreauputician_: not possible...09:58
sudhirealden : thanks for info09:58
thoreauputician_: fdisk *has* to be there09:59
ian_no such file or directory09:59
Morrowynian, you have a sata drive in your box?09:59
intelikeyfdisk command not found ?    path error.09:59
QQ_ghostIan_:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda09:59
sudhirealden : I am a nfs server running  redhat 9, how to mount that Ubuntu09:59
ian_no my mistake on the command not found i mistyped fdisk to fdsik09:59
thoreauputicah09:59
Morrowynmount <ipadress>:/path/to/export/dir /<yourmountoint>10:00
QQ_ghostIan_:  what partitions are type ntfs?10:00
lampshadewait, so fluxbox is actually based off of blackbox?  Why the split?  Like what does fluxbox do or what did they want it to do that blackbox didn't?10:00
Morrowynyou could add -t nfs10:00
thoreauputiclampshade: for a while bb wasn't developed - and fluxbox has tabs and other goodies10:00
ealdenlampshade: extra features, I think10:00
ealdensudhir: sorry I don't have experience with NFS yet10:00
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ian_got it....hda1 , hda5 , hda6 are all hpfs/ntfs while hda2 is w95 ext'd (LBA)10:01
ealden:|10:01
ealdenhehe10:01
Morrowynmake sure : sudo apt-get install portmap :) if you wanna mount nfs exports10:01
QQ_ghostIan_:  keep that terminal open...10:01
lampshadehmm10:01
QQ_ghostIan_:  now go back to the fstab10:02
Morrowynoh feck it, ill just install the nvidia drivers myself :P10:02
QQ_ghostIan_:  the other terminal10:02
ian_ok/....i also did the fdisk on hdb since i have 1 ntfs partition there containing files... im sharing my nd hd with linux10:02
ian_ok im in fstab10:02
intelikeyiirc bb forked to flux because of conflicting opinions among developers.   google probably has the whole story.10:02
Morrowynoh btw, iirc you dont have write access to ntfs mounts10:02
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thoreauputicintelikey: possibly - but fluxbox is pretty much backward compatible with blackbox (menus, styles etc)10:03
electrofishlampshade: pwm like tabs is one diff10:03
thoreauputicMorrowyn: you remember correctly :)10:03
QQ_ghostIan_:  do you know how to use the paste here?10:03
Morrowyn:) thanks10:04
QQ_ghost!paste10:04
ubotupaste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text10:04
ian_qq ghost can i have the comamnd for the fstab again i cant seem to see it when i scxroll up on this chat window10:04
intelikeyyes it was just a "we want to do this"   "no we're doing this"   thing as i recall10:04
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sudhir1does ubuntu support as NIS client ?10:04
thoreauputicintelikey: as far as I know blackbox kind of stopped at about version 0.65 and has only recently been revived10:05
thoreauputicas in, further developed10:05
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intelikeyyes because of the split10:05
lampshadeif I uncomment universe, do I want to automatically uncomment universe security as well?  I would assume so  (in my sources list)10:05
KaRupTHow do I run the dpkg reconfigure oxorg?????10:05
ealdenthoreauputic: yeh for 2 years I think10:05
thoreauputiclampshade: yes10:05
KaRupTxorg*10:05
QQ_ghostian_:  highlight the whole terminal and goto edit menu and select copy10:05
thoreauputicKaRupT:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:06
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intelikeyox-org  :)10:06
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ian_sorry thats what i want the command for fstab again i accidental;ly closed the terminal/..10:07
thoreauputicintelikey: apt-get moo  ;-)10:07
Toma-oooo this takes me back :D ive even got my old .fluxbox folder from ages ago heheh10:07
intelikey;/10:07
QQ_ghostian_: sudo vi /etc/fstab10:07
thoreauputicintelikey: have you tried it ?10:07
ian_doi paste it here?10:07
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QQ_ghostian_:  no, goto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10:07
Mabus06I just installed a new motherboard and video card, and I reinstalled ubuntu. But my X doesn't want to work. It is a ATI Radeon X700 Pro card.10:07
intelikeythe apt-get command ?     no apt here if that is what you meant thoreauputic10:08
QQ_ghostian_:  then paste the web address here...10:08
thoreauputicintelikey: what are you running?10:08
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intelikeylinux for humans10:08
thoreauputic*cough*10:08
ian_ok i pasted it already http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/630310:08
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intelikeybut not ubuntu :)10:08
thoreauputicintelikey: I gathered :)10:08
coNPintelikey: then what?10:09
QQ_ghostian_: hold on...10:09
intelikeywhy does it matter what distro i use ?10:09
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ian_ok10:09
thoreauputicintelikey: it doesn't.... and it would be off topic anyway :)10:09
QQ_ghostian_: now do your fstab10:09
intelikeyand trolling10:10
QQ_ghostian_: the pastey-thing10:10
steven_can anyone PLEASE help me with a problem with ubuntu10:10
Toma-hey Amaranth, did you make a metacity theme by any chance?10:10
thoreauputicsteve__: if you tell us what it is, maybe10:10
QQ_ghostlol10:10
Amaranthnope10:10
ian_now i entered sudo vi /etc/hda again and this what came up.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/630410:10
Toma-oic.10:10
Toma-theres a metacity theme with your name :O10:11
steven_i can't seem to burn any cd's..  i have dma on.. i have tried to burn 2 so far both failed, and whenver i do simulation with k3b it fails10:11
QQ_ghostian_: sudo vi /etc/fstab10:11
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maskdhey just wanted to ask a question, anybody else with flight 2 version of dapper, was eth0 disabled by default?10:11
thoreauputicsteven_: are you running gnome or KDE?10:11
redguy|workdoes anyone know if splashy is going to replace usplash?10:11
steven_thoreauputic, gnome10:11
thoreauputicsteve__: have you tried using the nautilus burner? What kind of CD are you burning? What file type etc?10:12
Mabus06I just installed a new motherboard and video card, and I reinstalled ubuntu. But my X doesn't want to work. It is a ATI Radeon X700 Pro card. Also, since it's a fresh install how to I get lynx to be installed so I can browse for help with my issue.10:12
steven_thoreauputic, i need to be able to burn mp3 to audio cd, and data10:12
steven_thoreauputic, im doing a simulation now with k3b using "raw" mode seems to be working10:13
QQ_ghostian_: type sudo rm /etc/.fstab.swp10:13
ian_ok here is the new one i delted the older one10:13
ian_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/630510:13
steven_thoreauputic, but my device buffer floats around alot10:13
ealdenMabus06: not sure with the videocard thing, but to get lnyx do a `sudo apt-get install lynx`10:13
steven_thoreauputic, it failed lol10:13
thoreauputicsteven_: install k3b-mp310:13
thoreauputic for mp3 burning10:13
intelikeyi mean to say "ok guys i use mandrake cause i can't stand ubuntu"  would hardly be welcome in #ubuntu   and i have always avoided such but for the record, my favorite distro is mdk  although i haven't tried debian (R)  or  gentoo (R)   and i have dialup so i probably don't upgrade like the rest of you.  and can't just run the flavour of the month at will.10:13
steven_thoreauputic, i have that10:13
thoreauputicOK10:13
Mabus06that didn't work, steven_, it's a fresh install I don't think I have the right sources.10:13
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Mabus06I'm familiar with apt-get :P10:14
steven_thoreauputic, failed again, can i pastebin you my error?10:14
thoreauputicsteven_: OK10:14
thoreauputicsteven_: have you tried running k3b from a terminal to see what errors are getting spat out?10:15
intelikeynow i'll refrain from mentioning distros in the future (as much as possable at least)10:15
steven_thoreauputic, no.10:15
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QQ_ghostian_: hold on...10:15
steven_thoreauputic, i have the write error log though paste binning one sec10:15
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ealdenMabus06: ok10:15
tuskerninihi there all...10:15
ian_ok ,,,10:15
thoreauputicand mis-spells it :D10:15
intelikeylike that one fine too10:15
thoreauputic:)10:15
tuskerninihave an hardware upgrade question...10:16
steven_thoreauputic, god damnit i had the error cut now it disapeered off to simulate i go i guess10:16
intelikeyask it10:16
|Lestat|what does it mean if when i type ndiswrapper -m i get a message back saying "modprobe config already contains alias directive"10:16
steven_thoreauputic, how do i do the terminal thing with simulate so i see the problems?10:16
thoreauputicsteven_: start it from a terminal so you can see what the heck it does10:16
melodiere  :)10:17
thoreauputicjust type k3b in a terminal10:17
tuskerninii am upgrading my motherboard and want to use my hdd to start up on it... but i encounter problems with the screen etc... now i am in a live cd and it works fine... how can i transfer the settings from here to my hdd?10:17
melodieanyone who could help me ?10:17
Morrowynslackware is nice :)10:17
steven_k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry.10:17
Morrowynsudo k3d ?10:18
tuskerninii know that live cd loads too much drivers... but i would not like to reinstall ubuntu on my aold hdd10:18
thoreauputicsteven_: have you run the k3b setup?10:18
steven_thoreauputic, yea everything has permission10:18
redguy|work!ask10:18
Mabus06How do I get my multiverse and universe repos available without GNOME10:18
intelikeytuskernini i don't think you want to do it that way.   try booting the installed ub and use  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]    to get a login console and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a10:19
thoreauputicsteven_: does it report any missing programs? Is it pointing at the right CD device?10:19
steven_thoreauputic, yea it's using the right device, one sec10:19
ealdenMabus06: edit /etc/apt/sources.lst10:19
mrkojeMabus06,   use the command line editor vim10:19
thoreauputicMabus06: edit /etc/apt/sources.list10:19
Mabus06and do what with it?10:19
mrkojeMabus06,      sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list10:19
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steven_thoreauputic, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/630610:20
mrkojeMabus06,  uncomment the lines10:20
thoreauputicmrkoje: I would recommend nano unless he's used to vim10:20
intelikeytuskernini that will allow linux to reconfigure the system for the new hardware.10:20
Mabus06ok, easy enough, thanks, brb10:20
thoreauputicsteven_: OK hang on a tick10:20
mrkojethoreauputic,  Mabus06  good point. Nano is friendlier10:20
|Lestat|what does it mean if when i type ndiswrapper -m i get a message back saying "modprobe config already contains alias directive"10:20
melodieredguy|work, what and where (save multiverse) are the right kernel-sources and headers to match my 2.6.12-10-k710:20
melodie ? I need to have them in the system to compile KQemu with Qemu :)10:20
polpakthoreauputic: agreed. I don't know why ppl point new users to vim. I use it, but I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to be able to dive into it10:20
ealdenMabus06: uncomment the lines that pertain to multiverse and universe10:21
pl_icehey thoreauputic ;)10:21
melodiethe multiverse version is a 2.6.11 something, and I am no sure it was not the cause of failure when I tried, a few weeks ago  :(10:21
tuskerniniintelikey, thanx but i can not even start to boot the system... i will try the f1 sequence thanx10:21
Mabus06the 'sudo vim etc/apt/sources.list' command doesn't work10:22
thoreauputicsteven_: ls -l /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:22
thoreauputic  <-- what does that say?10:22
steven_thoreauputic, here is the text from my terminal also, i dont think its relevant though10:22
steven_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/630710:22
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thoreauputicMabus06: /etc (you left out a / )10:22
steven_thoreauputic, ok one second10:22
tuskerniniintelikey, my system halts before ubuntu boots...10:23
steven_thoreauputic, -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:23
thoreauputicsteven_: Ok that's the problem10:23
Mabus06that nor nano will open10:23
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lampshadeok, so I just apt-get installed fluxbox, but I have a feeling it did not install X first, is that something I have to do lol10:24
tuskerniniintelikey,i have a flatscreen, might be that10:24
redguy|workmelodie: hrm, they're supposed to be in linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k710:24
steven_thoreauputic, ok, what do i need to do10:24
QQ_ghostian_: back...10:24
QQ_ghostian_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/630810:24
lampshadeat least which startx returns nothing so I figure it didn't10:24
thoreauputicsteven_: hang on a second and I'll tell you10:24
redguy|workmelodie: which in turn should be in the regular repositories10:24
steven_thoreauputic, ok thanks a million10:24
Ticholampshade: returns nothing or doesn't exist ?10:24
ian_ok10:25
melodieredguy|work, does this package contain the sources as well ?10:25
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guillermohi people10:25
QQ_ghostian_: let me know if that works10:25
lampshadeTicho:?  Umm  the command returns nothing  just right back to prompt10:25
thoreauputicsteven_: first do   sudo chgrp cdrom /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:25
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tuskerniniok all, rebooting.. wish me luck!10:25
Mabus06is it possible for me to wget a sources.list?10:26
steven_thoreauputic, ok10:26
Morrowynhmmmm, my system keeps nagging me about: nvidia kernel module is 1.0.7174 and my nvidia module version is 7667, however i installed the nvidia-kernel-common, which is 1.0.7667 any ideas?10:26
intelikeyoh my!     tuskernini   if you copy the configs from the running live cd  in /etc  it will probably break lots of things.   so i can not sujest that.    although you don't want to reinstall, it is probably the best bet.    backup  the home dir on the installed ubuntu and reinstall is my advice.  although i know you don't want to hear that.10:26
lampshadeand I don't see an xorg.conf so I'm pretty sure it didn't install10:26
steven_thoreauputic, done10:26
thoreauputicsteven_: then do sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:26
tuskerniniahhH!!!10:26
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thoreauputicsteven_: then tell me what   ls -l /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord    says10:27
melodieredguy|work, I suppose yes, I find this in 'apt-cache show': Filename: pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7_2.6.12-10.25_i386.deb10:27
tuskerniniok will do... have anoter hdd that i can use and just run this one on slave10:27
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melodiewao!10:27
tuskerniniintelikey, thanks10:27
DonVinzkHi, I will buy a new PC, and so I have a few questions about ubuntu. First of all: if I buy an amd_64, I will download the required distribution. But will I find all the packages available for my architecture ? Or the most important is to have the kernel compiled for the 64 and then the package themselves can be taken compiled for x86 ?10:27
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intelikeytuskernini welcome.  sorry i can't do more10:27
melodieredguy|work, is that right then ? :)10:27
thoreauputicsteven_: ?10:27
lampshadeIf I want to install xorg, xserver-xorg is the package I want, correct?10:28
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steven_thoreauputic, sorry back10:28
steven_-rwxr-xr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:28
thoreauputicsteven_:  hmm did you do the chmod +s  ?10:29
melodieDonVinzk, you would appreciate better a 32 bits, with good components, memory, fast cpu... diverse things are a pain in the a** for 64 bit computer users as I see on the net10:29
Mabus06is it possible for me to wget a sources.list?10:29
steven_thoreauputic, no one second sorry10:29
thoreauputicsteven_: you need to do that too10:29
intelikeyMabus06 sure10:29
steven_-rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:29
intelikey!sorces10:29
ubotuintelikey: I give up, what is it?10:29
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Mabus06intelikey: from where?10:29
intelikey!repos10:30
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource10:30
melodieredguy|work, you didn't confirm so I suppose it's right: thanks, I start dl know and I go get breakfast :))10:30
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Mabus06intelikey: isn't that for gnome?10:30
intelikeywget that and edit it ^10:30
thoreauputicsteven_: OK now try burning again10:30
steven_thoreauputic, ok in auto mode?10:30
KaRupTis there a repository to get americas army???10:30
intelikeyno sources are not desktop specific10:30
thoreauputicsteven_: just try it - iyt should work Ithink10:30
Mabus06I meant, isn't the howto designed for gnome users.10:30
steven_thoreauputic, o10:31
steven_k10:31
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DonVinzkmelodie: another issue is that the PC I were interested in has shared memory for video and RAM. Is Ubuntu able to handle it ?10:31
KaRupTanyone?10:31
QQ_ghostDonVinzk: yes, it handles shaerd ram just fine10:31
ian_qq ghost i think i followed your intructions...butit says contents could not be displayed10:32
intelikeyMabus06 you asked about wget'ing a list   wget that url  and edit out the html crap    or just open it and copy / paste to a blank file  and save as sources.list10:32
steven_thoreauputic, failed again10:32
DonVinzkIf I use my computer just for desktop apps, no games, is it fine to have shared memory ?10:32
thoreauputicsteven_:  :((10:32
MorrowynDonVinzk, should be working fine10:32
melodieQQ_ghost, what is it useful for ? does it save money by using less RAM or sthg ?10:32
steven_thoreauputic, ill pastebin it.10:32
Morrowyni have a couple of laptops running ubuntu with shared memory10:32
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Morrowynshared memory is fine for officedesktopping :)10:33
QQ_ghostian_: open a terminal and type sudo chown (yourusername):(yourusername) /media/ntfs110:33
steven_thoreauputic, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/630910:33
lampshadeok how do I startx?10:33
albackerthoreauputic, how do i get kpkg ? kernel-package ?10:33
QQ_ghostmelodie: yes, it saves the mobo maker money10:34
melodieDonVinzk, some games need lots, some no so much. We can have 3D accelaration anyhow, and desktop apps as well10:34
Morrowynunless you need hardware accelaration for certain apps (3d apps, games)10:34
intelikeyMabus06 neither of the urls ubotu posted are howto's  and they contain a copy of a working  /etc/apt/sources.list   so i don't understand your question.10:34
melodieQQ_ghost, ok thks10:34
ian_changing ownership of media/ntfs1: read onyl file10:34
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thoreauputicsteven_: looks like we're getting somewhere at lewast10:35
thoreauputic*least10:35
steven_thoreauputic, ok. :-)10:35
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steven_thoreauputic, yea it was going real fast then the "fifo" buffer died10:35
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thoreauputicsteven_:   sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:35
Madpilotlater, everyone10:36
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thoreauputicsteven_: then tell me what the ls -l says again10:36
rx2are there any good blog entries/howtos about running gtk->cairo->glitz? cant find much info on the www :|10:36
ian_it says on the error that i do not have the permission to view the files...10:36
QQ_ghostian_: type sudo umount /media/ntfs10:36
thoreauputicsteven_: just to be sure10:36
rageHey, I would like to map a key to a program, I've set /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_1 to "<Alt>F11" and ../keybinding_commands/command_1 to "echo test > ~rage/test.txt" however it doesnt seem to work, what have I done wrong?10:36
rage*run a program10:36
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intelikeyoh Mabus06 let me say i'm sorry for the growl,  i see that there is also a url to a howto posted.... i always skip that, and so didn't notice it.10:36
steven_-rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:37
Morrowynian_  use this:  mount -o uid=<youruid> /dev/<ntfsdev> /media/<ntfsmountpoint>   since it auto mounts to root on default10:37
ian_ntfs alone is not found10:37
ian_butt ntfs1 is10:37
thoreauputicsteven_: my ISP may cut me off in a few minutes BTW10:37
steven_thoreauputic, :-((((10:37
ian_i named each partition with its own ntfs #10:37
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thoreauputicsteve__: did you run that command ?10:37
QQ_ghostian_: good10:37
steven_thoreauputic, yes10:37
Morrowynian, just add -o uid=1000 or something10:37
intelikeythoreauputic you too eh  ?10:37
steven_thoreauputic, -rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:37
QQ_ghostian_: unmount it10:37
Morrowynumount it first :)10:38
Morrowynand remount10:38
baroslomg, ubuntu won't support updating firefox any more?10:38
thoreauputicsteven_:  no,   sudo chmod u+s10:38
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steven_thoreauputic, i did that :-)10:38
thoreauputicsteven_: you must have mistyped10:38
thoreauputic??10:38
steven_sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:38
steven_?10:38
Mabus06can someone please pastebin for me either http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RepositoriesHowto or a sources.list that has universe and multiverse enabled?10:38
ian_no such file or directory....waity what do i put on the ntfsmountpoint and ntfsdev10:38
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thoreauputicsteven_: I just tried it here and it should say10:39
thoreauputic-rwsr-xr--  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 23:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:39
Seveasmabus powt 232510:39
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Mabus06http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto that is10:39
Seveaspost*10:39
steven_steven@Penguin:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:39
steven_-rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:39
steven_steven@Penguin:~$10:39
intelikeyMabus06  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604710:39
Mabus06thanks, intelikey10:39
ian_man this is real hard... i eman for me since im new....all i want is to view files hehe10:39
baroslsomeone told me that because firefox 1.5 supports automatic update for itself, ubuntu won't support firefox version-up. right?10:40
thoreauputicsteven_: hang on10:40
QQ_ghostian_: lol, no joke...10:40
steven_hi Seveas10:40
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intelikeyMabus06 that's the same one i had ubotu post for you ^ up there.  i just copied it.......10:40
QQ_ghostian_: ok, type mount10:40
thoreauputicsteven_: that doesn't make sense...10:40
ian_and?10:40
steven_thoreauputic, i did what you asked :-(((10:40
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QQ_ghostian_: are there any ntfs mounted?10:41
thoreauputicsteven_: sudo chmod g-x /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:41
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thoreauputicsteve__: oops as you were10:41
quacorezxhey, can anyone answer a quick question to me about OOo?10:41
steven_sudo chmod g-x /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:41
steven_i did that10:42
thoreauputicsteven_: sorry    chmod o-x10:42
steven_k10:42
ian_i guess because when i click on my computer it shows all 4 of the partitions but when i open it it says i dont have permissionj to view the files in it10:42
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quacorezxis there any way to install v2.0.1 for ubuntu, or will it crap out on me?10:42
QQ_ghostquacorezx: what about OOo?10:42
barosl* You will no longer get automatic updates through the repositories (but firefox itself has a built into auto-updater).10:42
baroslwhat it means?10:42
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steven_sudo chmod o-x /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:42
steven_ok10:42
quacorezxI mean, breezy's repository has the v2 beta right?10:42
thoreauputicsteven_:  you'll have to do chmod g+x after that as well10:42
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steven_thoreauputic, so chmod g+x again?10:43
Morrowynok, i just did the nvidia manually, works peachy now :D with the newest drivers10:43
QQ_ghostquacorezx: don't know, 1.1 does just fine for me10:43
olicathi all. does anyone have an idea what i've left out of my kernel config? i can boot it, but can't scan for anything with my wireless card.10:43
thoreauputicsteven_: yes, then tell me what ls -l says10:43
olicatit's an ndiswrapper card10:43
Morrowynfood :D10:43
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quacorezxQQ_ghost, well, it's not that it doesn't work fine as is, I'm just trying to teach myself some linux basics and such10:43
steven_-rwsr-sr--  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:43
quacorezxin this case, will alien's conversions move across distro's10:44
QQ_ghostian_: open a terminal and type mount10:44
intelikeythoreauputic would "-rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdwriter 316K Mar 18  2004 /usr/bin/cdrecord"  that help by any chance ?10:44
quacorezxor will it bomb my entire system10:44
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Morrowynhow do i remove the older kernels, 2.6.9 is still lingering about ...10:44
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thoreauputicintelikey: wrong path and all10:44
ian_you want me to poaste whats in it?10:44
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thoreauputicintelikey: wrong group as well10:44
QQ_ghostquacorezx: ah, do you know how to use synaptic?10:44
Morrowynis it just the kernel-image thing ?10:44
quacorezxQQ_ghost, naturally, but synaptic's only got the v2 beta10:45
steven_thoreauputic, is it right now?10:45
thoreauputicsteven_: I don't know how you are getting these results...10:45
QQ_ghostian_: nope.  are there any ntfs partitions mounted?10:45
thoreauputicsteven_: no10:45
polpakMorrowyn: use synaptic and remove the linux and linux-image packages for kernels you don't want any more10:45
ian_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/631110:45
steven_thoreauputic, i have done what you said10:45
thoreauputicsteven_: give me a minute10:45
steven_thoreauputic, ok10:45
ian_how come not everythiong was mounted10:46
Morrowynok :)10:46
ian_i eman i did the same thing basically10:46
intelikeythoreauputic is cdrecord not the same in /usr/bin  and /usr/X11/bin  ?      i was just pointing out a working permissions10:46
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QQ_ghostian_: umount /media/ntfs210:46
thoreauputicintelikey: yes maybe - but the group in ubuntu is cdrom10:46
QQ_ghostian_: umount /media/ntfs310:47
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ian_ok10:47
intelikeyhmmm cdrom only reads on this system...10:47
QQ_ghostdone?10:47
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ian_i tyoed moutn and now they are gone10:47
ian_the two of them10:47
pl_icehey i got problem with avidemux , to edit movie files, no sound after edition, any ideas? ...10:47
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thoreauputic_steven_: sorry ISP cut off10:48
QQ_ghostian_: sudo chown (yourusername):(yourusername) /media/ntfs210:49
thoreauputic_steven_:  do this please10:49
QQ_ghostian_: without the parentheses10:49
thoreauputic_steven_: sudo chmod 4754 cdrecord10:49
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ian_ok10:49
steven_thoreauputic, ok10:49
steven_steven@Penguin:~$ sudo chmod 4754 cdrecord10:50
steven_chmod: cannot access `cdrecord': No such file or directory10:50
steven_steven@Penguin:~$10:50
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thoreauputic_steven_: sorry - give the full path as before10:50
steven_thoreauputic, ok10:50
QQ_ghostian_: do that for all the ntfs directories you made10:50
thoreauputic_steven_: then tell me the ls -l please10:50
cafuegoOn a normal system, there's no need to run chmod on 'cdrecord'.10:51
ian_how come it only reacted with ntfs3 and ntfs 210:51
steven_steven@Penguin:~$ sudo chmod /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:51
thoreauputic_cafuego: his was totally wrong10:51
steven_chmod: too few arguments10:51
ian_1 and 4 didnt work?10:51
intelikeythoreauputic   why world read but not world exec ?   4 is read you know ?10:51
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thoreauputic_chmod 475410:51
thoreauputic_intelikey: I know - tht's what mine is and it is working :)10:52
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yanhello!10:52
steven_-rwsr-xr--  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:52
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thoreauputic_intelikey: so I'm copying mine :)10:52
DonVinzkI would have like to have feedback from people using ubuntu on a AMD 64 architecture10:52
thoreauputic_steven_: aha - that looks like mine now at least :)10:52
QQ_ghostian_: type    cd /media10:53
steven_thoreauputic, ok, try to burn cd?10:53
Seveasintelikey, it should NOT be world executable10:53
thoreauputic_steven_: so see if it works10:53
Seveasinstead the user should be added to the cdrom group10:53
yanI have a Laptop without CDROM Can I install Ubuntu By booting it from the hard disk??10:53
thoreauputic_steven_: if not I'm out of ideas...10:53
Ryanim new w/ ubuntu. i need to install ubuntu in my laptop (compaq presario V2000) w/ mobile AMD Turion 64 Processor. Can I install the latest version of Ubuntu, the one in the download site "64-bit PC (AMD64) install CD"10:53
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intelikeySeveas but 754 ?10:53
Seveas754 is reasonable10:54
intelikeyworld readable binary ?10:54
intelikey750 maybe10:54
SeveasRyan, yes10:54
yanI have a Laptop without CDROM Can I install Ubuntu By booting it from the hard disk??10:54
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Seveasintelikey, there's nothing wrong with people being able to read it :)10:54
lampshadewhat's the proper way to start up X and fluxbox once they are both installed but GDM, etc is not installed (I started with just a server installation of Ubuntu)10:54
QQ_ghostyan: do you have a network card?10:54
thoreauputic_intelikey: yeah I don't know why mine is 4 but hey, it works so...10:54
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ian_ok10:55
yanQQ_ghost,mm, not:(10:55
steven_thoreauputic, nope10:55
intelikeynothing wrong with being able to exec it either though.10:55
gregam I allowed to be here?10:55
QQ_ghostyan: you might have to find a local LUG...10:55
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gregI am looking for a place to talk about Apache webservers10:55
QQ_ghostian: type ls -l10:55
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QQ_ghostian: paste the results10:55
yanwhat is a 'local LUG'?10:56
RyanSeveas: thanks! Im running windows XP service pack 2 at the moment... what would i do so that i will have both ubuntu and windows xp in my laptop and my files wont be deleted?10:56
Toma-greg: as in, apache webserver help?10:56
ian_ok?10:56
ian_then10:56
gregyes10:56
Seveasgreg, unless it's about running apache on Ubuntu you're in the wrong place10:56
QQ_ghostyan: LUG=linux user group10:56
yanmmm:)10:56
gregit is that10:56
Toma-greg: ask away.10:56
gregcool, I have apache 2 installed10:56
thoreauputicsteven_: well, I don't know what the trouble is - maybe someone else can help you then10:56
Toma-on ubuntu?10:56
gregand it was working fine on 8080 port10:56
steven_Ok,10:57
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QQ_ghostintelikey: can you tell yan how to find a local LUG?10:57
gregand than I installed firestarter10:57
steven_can anyone help me with a cd-writing issue?10:57
linuxboyhow do I get ubuntu to connect to the internet via my phone and bluetooth?10:57
thoreauputicsteven_: sorry - all I can say is at least your permissions look right now10:57
gregand the site was no longer accessible to the public10:57
intelikeyQQ_ghost google maybe ?10:57
steven_thoreauputic, thanks for all the help10:57
gregso i  uninstalled it and it still is inaccessible10:57
QQ_ghostian: paste the results10:57
yanQQ_ghost, intelikey: And by booting from the hard disk ? or from the USB.. Is that possible?10:57
thoreauputicsteven_: no problem - pity it isn't fixed yet :|10:58
ian_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/631210:58
gregthat is what I think happened10:58
Seveasgreg, iptables -F10:58
Toma-greg: is iptables in the command output of "lsmod"?10:58
QQ_ghostyan: you got a floppy on it?10:58
yanyes10:58
steven_thoreauputic, -rwsr-xr--  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord10:58
steven_ is what we have right now10:58
yanonly floopy610:58
gregalright hold on10:58
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thoreauputicsteven_: yes that 's what mine is too10:59
electrofish10:59
QQ_ghostdo you have a friend with a usb cdrom?10:59
QQ_ghostyan: do you have a friend with a usb cdrom?10:59
gregseveas I typed in iptables -F and didn't get back anything10:59
yanQQ_ghost, I have 20GB on usb hard drive...10:59
steven_can anyone help me with a cd-writing issue?10:59
Seveasgreg, good :)10:59
thoreauputicsteven_: I assume you are in the cdrom group?10:59
Seveastry again to connect10:59
yanQQ_ghost, not a usb CDROM10:59
gregokay11:00
steven_thoreauputic, no idea11:00
intelikeyyan could you install it on the usb drive in another box and then move the usb drive to the lappy ?11:00
thoreauputicsteven_: type  groups11:00
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steven_steven adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin11:00
gregokay it seems to have started fine11:01
thoreauputicsteven_: OK you are in the cdrom group11:01
|Lestat|is anyone here familiar with wireless usb devices?11:01
QQ_ghostian: sorry i'm slow, but i'm on dialup11:01
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yanQQ_ghost:  :| , mm It is not like A hard drive, Its the IRiver... Video Player with usb...11:02
ian_well....11:02
ian_i guess...i cant do this....11:02
gregseveas it seemed to have started fine11:02
ian_is there another way...11:02
yanQQ_ghost: Can I make Boot for USB?11:02
sniper_bolerohello guys11:02
intelikeyyan to answer the question "can ubuntu be installed without a cd drive"  if you are an old hand at linux then yes.  if you are new to linux, then you probably can not.   it is a complicated task.11:02
thoreauputicsteven_: does the nautilus burner work for you?11:02
steven_thoreauputic, i donot know what that is or how to test11:03
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gregyou can get floppy installations right?11:03
ian_qq ghost...11:03
yanintelikey, Mmm... OK 10x at all11:03
ian_how do i revert all the cchanges that i made?11:03
gregseveas?11:03
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ian_i guess i really cant do it....11:03
yanQQ_ghost:; thnk u too11:03
steven_thoreauputic, WHOa it looked like it was gonna die, then it kept steady11:03
|Lestat|i installed ubuntu without a cd drive :)11:04
Ryanhow do i intall ubuntu and still have my windows xp in my system... amd turion 64 laptop11:04
thoreauputicsteven_: so something is happening?11:04
Seveasgreg, there is no floppy install option for Ubuntu11:04
|Lestat|stuck an hd in my pc box, threw in the cd, installed, then when it rebooted i switched to my other pc11:04
gregahhh...11:04
steven_thoreauputic, tried to simulate then it died11:04
gregbut if we could get back to Apache2 business you would be my grace11:04
SeveasRyan, just don't let the installer touch the windows partition :)11:04
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Toma-Seveas: do you know much about routers?11:05
Seveasgreg, you said 'it seems to have started ok', so what's the problem?11:05
thoreauputicsteven_: try actually burning something - sometimes simulation doesn't work11:05
SeveasToma-, a bit11:05
gregI can't see it when I type in the domain name11:05
intelikeygreg ubuntu does not (afaik) make any floppy install disk/images  either for net or hd   but if i'm wrong then you should find it on  http://ubuntu.com11:05
steven_thoreauputic, Alright11:05
Toma-Say if i have an adsl modem/router, and then a WAP thats on the adsl lan, that i connect to, what machine would i need to configure to allow ports thru on? the adsl router or the WAP?11:06
Seveasgreg, put the output if the following commands on the pastebin: sudo netstat -tlnp; iptables -L; iptables -t mangle -L11:06
thoreauputicsteven_: if that doesn't work, try opening an ISO in nautilus, right click on it and burn from the context menu11:06
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SeveasToma-, probably both11:06
Toma-hmmm thought so.11:06
ian_anyway one more thing....i have windows on my system how do i configure the boot loader so that it will chooswe windows in default?11:07
QQ_ghostian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/631411:07
Toma-adsl routes the ports to the WAP then the WAP routes them to me?11:07
steven_thoreauputic, ok burning.. hope it works11:07
Seveasian_, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, make sure that the line that starts with Default: points to windows11:07
thoreauputicsteven_: so do I ;-)11:07
QQ_ghostian: hold on for the grub stuff, it's easier by far...11:07
SeveasToma-, yeah11:07
Toma-ok thankx11:07
steven_thoreauputic, looks good so far :\11:08
udayhey guys, i'm looking for a doc to help me set up ltsp on breeezy11:09
gregwhere or how is the pastebin11:09
ian_thanks so much for the help qq ghost im real sorry i wasnt able to cope with your instructions11:09
steven_!pastebin11:09
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:09
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QQ_ghostian: there really should be a comprehensive how-to for beginners11:10
steven_thoreauputic, looks great so far!11:10
ian_Seveas: not write permission for file /boot/grub/menu.lst11:10
thoreauputicsteven_: aha :)11:10
ian_no*11:10
|Lestat|theres gotta be someone here who can help me with this damn wireless usb... it's drivin me nuts11:11
Seveasian_, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst11:11
QQ_ghostian: it's cool though, you'll get it soon enough...11:11
steven_thoreauputic, it did fail to burn  2 cd's normal mode, i think the problem was simulation never worked, and you fixed it but we didn't know11:11
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gregokay its under Greg Ward11:11
thoreauputicsteven_: well, lets see how this burn turns out....11:11
steven_thoreauputic, perfect at 90% so far11:12
ian_yeah i hope...ive tried so many distros already i really want to learn linux so hard but it seems every distro has a problem instored for me hehehe11:12
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ian_now im in a word processing program11:12
thoreauputicsteven_: I think probably simulation was the issue combined with the permissions then11:12
Seveasgreg, it's on port 8081, which works: I see a directory listing there11:12
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steven_thoreauputic, yes, 100% thanks so much11:12
intelikeyto developers ?  mantainers ?  or any one that just knows for sure ?   is the breezy iso  the same one that was released in 10/5  or does it get updated ?11:12
thoreauputicsteven_: hopefully now it's fixed!11:12
QQ_ghostian: same here, this is my sixth distro...  i still use slackware though...11:12
thoreauputicsteven_: you're welcome :)11:13
steven_thoreauputic, yay good to hear the kde success noise for once11:13
steven_k3b11:13
steven_*11:13
thoreauputicsteven_: it's nice when things work out :)11:13
thoreauputicheh I hate that k3b noise - I turned it off :)11:14
ian_qq_ghost...im in the word proceesing prog to edit the menu.lst but i dont quite get what to do11:14
QQ_ghostintelikey: pretty sure that it doesn't get updated, but don't quote me on that one...11:14
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steven_thoreauputic, hehe, cd's playing perfectly thanks a million11:14
thoreauputicsteven_:  yay!11:14
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intelikeyk11:15
thoreauputic;-)11:15
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QQ_ghostian: highlight the whole block of text where it says "title         Microsoft..."11:17
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ian_and?11:17
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ian_its at the bottom after a separator from the debian ones11:17
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QQ_ghostian: after ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST11:18
ian_yep11:18
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idefix_why is there a directory cdrom in the File System?11:18
robzonidefix_: to let you access the cdrom device ;)11:18
QQ_ghostian: highlight all the surrounding text in that block11:18
idefix_there is no other way then?11:19
ompaulidefix_, so that you can pop in a CD and will always know which one it is if you had three you would have cdrom0 cdrom1 cdrom2 :-)11:19
ian_including the first line where it says Thius is a divder, added to separate,,,,,11:19
intelikeyidefix_ man mount11:19
ian_?11:19
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ian_ok i go paste...11:19
thoreauputicompaul: thanks :)11:20
QQ_ghostian: no, just the lines from "# This entry automa..."11:20
idefix_so if I manage to mount my floppy disk there'll be a A; directory too!11:20
robzonwhat bittorrent client would you guys recommend?11:20
ompaulQQ_ghost, paste it all in the pastebin you might see more that is useful :)11:20
melodieOk, I've got the linux-headers in the box now :linux-headers-2.6.12-10  linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7 and what about the linux-sources that the KQemu acceleretor is supposed to need to function properly ? what should I dl and where to get it if so, please ?11:20
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intelikeyidefix_ also of note  /cdrom is only a symbolic link11:20
ian_qq ghost11:20
ian_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/631611:20
QQ_ghostk11:20
intelikeyidefix_ ls -l /cdrom11:21
ompaulrobzon, the one that comes with ubuntu is fine - gnome-btdownload - named bittorent on the menu11:21
QQ_ghostompaul: yeah, i showed him that11:22
stefan_idefix_ use the mtools to access your floppy11:22
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QQ_ghostian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/631711:23
melodiecause none : apt-cache search source 2.6.12-10-k7  :(11:23
PapagenoI have a .doc file (MS Word) that has an embeded image. How can I extract the image to its own image file? I can open the .doc just fine in OpenOffice.org, but I don't know how to get the picture out.11:24
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ompaulPapageno, if right clicking does nothing for you try saving as a html file it should seperate out text and image11:24
robzonompaul: well, I use it now, but I'm looking for something with queueing... azureus sucks, it's slow and eats up to much memory, and I don't want anything that requires KDE :)11:25
ian_okt hen after that what do i do i have it cut now11:25
QQ_ghostian: wait one...11:25
ian_sure take your time11:25
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DonVinzkHas somebody unbuntu for amd64 ?11:25
QQ_ghostian: cut it, then paste it right after "## ## End Default Options ##"11:26
idefix_pwd11:26
ompaulrobzon, can't help you there all I do is pop ubuntu back into the ether so I have no special requirements - however as an aside if you want to control the max bandwidth that any app uses talking to the intereweb may I take this moment to introduce a command line tool called trickle :-) it works rather well11:27
QQ_ghostian: then, if you want color, find the line "#color cyan/blue white/blue" and delete the #11:27
ompaulDonVinzk, http://www.ubuntu.com/download11:27
Papagenoompaul: Thanks. Saving as HTML worked well.11:28
DonVinzkompaul: no, I mean, installed on the machine...I would like to know the issues ;-)11:28
robzonompaul: sounds interesting :)11:28
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idefix_No manual entry for mtools11:29
idefix_ :-(11:29
MorrowynDonVinzk,  maya wont run on ubuntu amd6411:29
ian_ok so i pasted it right after what you said before the ubuntu kernel11:29
ompaulDonVinzk, issues hmm, that would be you would like to know about running 32bit apps on the box for media and stuff - I think that is on wiki.ubuntu.com in a lot of detail as I don't do 64bit myself I have had no reason to look at it11:29
Morrowynwell, it wont get installed due to arch 32/64 bit issues11:29
ian_so what do i do next?11:29
QQ_ghostian: now, if you want color, find the line "#color cyan/blue white/blue" and delete the #11:29
Morrowynapart from that, everything works nice and smoothly11:29
ian_yep did that too....11:30
QQ_ghostian ;)11:30
idefix_there you go then!11:30
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DonVinzkMorrowyn: ok, I amnot interested in Maya yet...11:30
ian_do i save as or just plain save?11:30
QQ_ghostian: now, just save11:30
nishhii11:30
idefix_plain..11:30
Morrowyn:) well if you are, shared memory wont do you no good anyways11:30
pl_icehey, anyones totem-xine closes down ? my does that v. often on file opening ...11:31
DonVinzkMorrowyn: I wondered about the flash issue.If I want to compile firefox in 32 bits in order to have flash work, what should I do ?11:31
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ian_ok ill test it now...11:31
gimmulfGood software for creating flows?11:31
gimmulfflow schemes11:31
ian_ill do my reboot:)11:31
gimmulfor what it's called :)11:31
DonVinzkMorrowyn: at least the basic scheme ;-)11:31
Adrosshow do i stop samba from sharing my home folder, as is the default option?11:31
ian_be back in a moment11:31
QQ_ghostian: :)11:31
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ompaulgimmulf, if I understand you >>dia<< is the program you want11:31
Morrowynuhm, havent checked flash yet, doesnt macromedia has a 64bit flash plugin11:31
nishhow should i install mplayer...11:31
pl_iceAdross look for file smb.conf11:31
ompaul!mplayer11:32
ubotumplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106111:32
nishis it like windows?11:32
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QQ_ghostgimmulf: you mean flow-charts?11:32
Adrosspl_ice: i got that far, i just can't see where in the file the home folder is shared11:32
gimmulfQQ_ghost:  yes11:32
eclairnish: the gui of mplayer isn't really like windows mediaplayer11:32
Khisanthmplayer is not wmp11:32
gimmulfQQ_ghost:  not diagrams11:32
gimmulfQQ_ghost:  for making structures before developing a application11:32
pl_iceAdross net share -I localhost and see if it's shareing, if ti's not in that file, it's not sharing it ...11:33
Morrowyntry installing firefox32bit from the synaptic :)11:33
QQ_ghostgimmulf: i got a win 3.11 program for that ;)11:33
gimmulfhehe lol11:33
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Khisanthgimmulf: tried dia?11:33
gimmulfKhisanth:  isnt that for diagrams?11:33
nishi downloaded the package from a link..threre is no "set up" like thing..only files n folders...11:33
Adrosspl_ice: its there11:33
Adrosspl_ice: its also there when i browse to it in nautilus11:33
DonVinzkMorrowyn: no, and on the forums (or at least the thread were old,I did not checked ;-) ), they said there is a compatibility issue11:33
pl_iceAdross so it must be in the smb.conf ...11:33
Morrowynhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8473211:34
Adrosspl_ice: yes, any clues as to whereabouts it is?11:34
Adrosspl_ice: as it is not located in the same place where the other shared folders are listed11:34
DonVinzkMorrowyn: so I xould like to know how to compile a 32 bit software ? Are there some flags or something,I do not know...11:34
Morrowynbasically you need to setup a chroot env for the 32bit apps in ubuntu and in there, apt-get the 32bit ubuntu apps, that should works fine and smoothly11:34
pl_iceAdross ,sorry :) um u'll have to read it all then :) to find it ...11:34
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Adrosskk, cheerio then11:35
pl_iceor patebin, will have a look11:35
Morrowynso if you need to compile , i think gcc has a setting wether to use 32bit or 64bit on x86, although im not sure11:35
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Morrowynbut running the 32bit gcc in a chroot 32bit env should work fine i guess ..11:35
_karlhello?11:35
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nishanyun not so bsy...11:35
KaRupTHOW can I open a full screen game in its OWN x session???11:36
_karldoes anyone know how to get wireless network working ?11:36
ian_hi im back it worked good.11:36
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ian_:)11:36
KaRupTANYONE know, plz?11:36
QQ_ghostian: kick a5511:36
Khisanthnish: "the package from a link" is pretty vague what kind of package did you download?11:36
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KaRupThello?11:37
ian_qq, well so its a fresh install of ubuntu right....my monitor has to be confugured every time i log in to change to 60hz...is there a way to save my settings? so i wont have to scroll at the top of the screen blindly when my resolution is set at 70hz...i need it to be on 6011:37
_karldoes anyone know how to get wireless network working ?11:37
tRSSKaRupT: sorry man. I cant help you there11:37
MorrowynKaRupT, the game should handle that11:37
pl_iceKaRupT , it's allways bit hard to do it ...11:37
bekelarhello11:37
pl_iceops, KaRupT wrong person ...11:38
bekelarhow do i make a shortcut in /usr/bin to an executable11:38
nishthe name is Mplayer-1.opre7try2..and it has many folders n all..11:38
pl_ice_karl what card u have?11:38
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Morrowynbekelar, ln -s it , or make sure /usr/bin is in the $PATH11:38
pl_icenish u installing mplayer? not by synaptic? ....11:38
robzonKaRupT: X :1 <command to run> I think11:38
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bekelarwhere "it" is the file?11:39
QQ_ghostian_: system -> preferences -> screen resolotion -> (checkbox) make default for this computer11:39
nishdon't know searched google got a link clicked on it whats synaptic?11:39
KillerBunnywhat should i specify, so i can compile c/c++ programs ? the compiler gcc is complaing about missing stdlib.h11:39
ian_ok! thnx again i went to that option to change my resolution didnt notice the defualt hehehe11:40
pl_icenish under console just type : sudo apt-get install mplayer and it's done ...11:40
_karli have a dell trumobile 140011:40
Morrowynbekelar,   ln -s /usr/bin/<thefileordirectorythatsneedstobeshortcutted>  /<pathtowhereyouwannadumptheshortcut>11:40
pl_icethen have to set gui 'face' for it, don't bother compiling it ...11:40
ian_hmmm one last... in the grub loader how do i shorten the time to choose i want it to just be 3 seconds instead of ten11:40
Khisanthnish: a program used for installing precompiled packages11:40
MorrowynKillerBunny, make sure it can find the libraries/includes11:40
robzonKaRupT: basically, you need to run additional X server ( X :<diplay> ) and then run the game with DISPLAY envvar set to :<display>11:40
bekelarthanks a lot, Morrowyn11:40
Khisanthnish: you seem to have downloaded the tarball instead11:40
KillerBunnybut where are they?11:40
Morrowynnp11:40
pl_ice_karl have u searched it on ubuntuforums.org for same card? what's the problem?11:40
MorrowynKillerBunny, check /etc/ld.so.conf11:41
Morrowyndunno if ubuntu has it too11:41
KillerBunnyokey will look.11:41
QQ_ghostian_: open a terminal and type    sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst11:41
KillerBunnynope, only a .cache.11:41
pl_icei love ffmpeg :)11:41
robzonKaRupT: it's like: X :1 and then DISPLAY=":1" /path/to/the/game11:41
ian_ok...whgat do io do next11:41
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_karlwhen i do iwlist scan i see a wireless network, then i do the iwconfig wlan0 "essid" stuff and it doesnt do anything11:42
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Wstylistwhy do people use Gnome at all?11:42
izza_Hello, all.11:42
Mabus06because it's default installed on ubuntu11:42
MorrowynWstylist, why not?11:42
Wstylistit was slow11:42
QQ_ghostian_: look for "timeout10"11:42
Wstyliston my p13311:43
KillerBunnyMorrowyn, any other suggestions ?11:43
pl_ice_karl u sure u set right channel etc? ...11:43
Wstylistreal slow11:43
QQ_ghostian_: line 17?11:43
Mabus06can anyone help me get x working? I recently installed a new motherboard and ati radeon x700 pro video card... and reinstalled ubuntu. Now x won't load11:43
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MorrowynWstylist, run fluxbox, xcfe, blackbox on it, you want a liteweight window manager11:43
ompaulWstylist, people like me have been using it for years, for you there is sudo >>apt-get install xubuntu-desktop<<11:43
ian_i see and make it 3?11:43
KaRupTrobzon, envar set to ;<display>  how do I do that?11:43
QQ_ghostian_: the time is in seconds11:43
Wstylisti need a distro with amiwm11:43
QQ_ghostian_: sure11:43
Wstylistanyone knows one?11:44
_karlyup, channel 611:44
izza_I'm a linux newbie, Ive tried KDE, and now Gnome, and Gnome doesn't seem near as intuitive... IMHO11:44
ompaulMabus06, dkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg may help11:44
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nishis there any link..which will just let me download mplayer for ubuntu..without much botherin my delicate brain...11:44
pl_iceizza_ it's good or bad, don't discuss it ....11:44
MorrowynKillerBunny, do a find on stdlib.h and add that directory to your ld.so.conf and then run ldconfig /etc/ld.so.conf11:44
QQ_ghostizza_: yeah, but i run old hardware, so gnome is just right ;)11:44
Morrowynalthough i wonder why ubuntu hasnt set it up for you, since stdlib should come with gcc11:45
SeveasMorrowyn, wtf?11:45
ltibor65Hi everybody!11:45
Wstylistizza you might want to try EDE desktop11:45
Seveas.h files in ld.so.conf?!?11:45
ian_ok qq thanks a lot!11:45
izza_EDE? Never heard of it.11:45
ompaulWstylist, check distrowatch.com :-)11:45
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ian_didenough for today tomorrow i will be here again ehhehe taking your time!11:45
Morrowynuhm, sorry my bad :)11:45
SeveasKillerBunny, apt-get install build-essential11:45
ian_thnx so much!11:45
WstylistEde has somehow better win32 behaviour11:45
ian_i think ill stick with ubuntu....primaily beacuse i can get help, fast.:) thnx11:46
Morrowynthe .lib should be there :)11:46
QQ_ghostian_: just be glad ubuntu doesn't use lilo...11:46
Mabus06how come my apt-get doesn't seem to be installing anything? My x is not working so I'm at the teletype11:46
izza_I might give it a shot.11:46
pl_iceanyone runs xmms with itouch plugin ? ...11:46
idefix_ltibor65!11:46
Wstylisthttp://ede.sourceforge.net/page/ Izza11:46
izza_Thanks, Wstylist11:46
QQ_ghostian_: you're quite welcome11:46
KillerBunnySeveas, i will try to, thanks.11:46
WstylistNp izza , u notice it to be quite fast11:46
ian_thanks really i appreciate it...ill be going now!11:46
ltibor65I have a problem, I cannot see the packages in the synaptic! I can update the packages, but not see in synaptic. Why???11:46
ian_thnks a lot!11:47
robzonKaRupT: export DISPLAY=":1"11:47
ian_oh btw11:47
QQ_ghost?11:47
ian_is there a program here that has an online radio or something?11:47
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Seveasian_, beep-media-player can handle mp3 streams11:47
ompaulltibor65, why not take a screen shot and paste it into paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:47
ian_because since i casnt access my library for now in my windows partitions i would really want to here music eheh11:47
izza_Anyone have a script for install routines so I can right click and run without using the console?11:48
QQ_ghostian_:i would be the wrong person to ask11:48
ian_ok thnks anyways11:48
ian_seveas....do i download that or is the package in my hd waiting to be isntalled?11:48
ompaul!tell ian_ about ntfs11:48
ompaulian_, that should help you get to your library11:48
Seveasian_, apt-get install beep-media-player11:48
ompaulian_, read only11:48
Wstylistizza i think your linux is Puppy linux11:49
QQ_ghostian_: on my system i have a fat32 partition to share data between lin & win11:49
Seveasompaul, dapper has rw support for ntfs :)11:49
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Wstylistits quite easy to use11:49
Wstylisthas decent help11:49
ltibor65ompaul, I would it make, but the erros massages is hungarian, and nobody understand it.11:49
ian_ompaul the link is dead,,,, i mean the site where to get the script11:49
ompaulSeveas, don't say dapper until X3 :)11:49
Wstylistand its small so u spend time learning the core operating system instead of lots of modern junk11:49
eclair! pastebin11:49
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:49
Seveas!dapper11:49
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake11:49
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Seveas!dapper drake11:49
ubotuDapper Drake is the fourth release for Ubuntu, which will be version 6.0411:49
izza_The help is lacking... I mean, it seems to have good help, but the guides rarely work.11:50
Seveas!drake11:50
ubotu[drake]  a dragon11:50
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robzonSeveas: it does?? is it in the current snapshot already11:50
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robzon?11:50
Wstylistwell Peanut has a built in help system11:50
Wstylistwin32 behaviour11:50
Seveasrobzon, yes11:50
Wstylistcant be that bad11:50
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ompaulWstylist, stop already your repeating yourself11:50
Seveasit's still experimental, but so far worked for me11:50
izza_I really would just rather use a script to manually install, rather than use package managers and whatnot11:51
ompaulian_, that link works for me11:51
Wstylistit has some kind of installer service11:51
robzonSeveas: and it's more than overwriting existing files without changing their size? :)11:51
ompaulWstylist, have a look at help.ubuntu.com and docs.ubuntu.com11:52
Seveasrobzon, yes :)11:52
idefix_what is bot abuse?11:52
Seveascreating, overwriting with different size, removing11:52
izza_Right now I'm just trying to get Limewire working... I've installed Java, and Limewire... but Limewire doesn't run, and Java doesn't seem to work.11:52
idefix_if I type some words preceded with aclimation marks am I kicked too then?11:52
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ompaulidefix_, something seveas kicks people for - abusing the channel bot11:52
ompaul!bot11:52
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.11:52
WstylistDon't ask me izza im an NT guy :)11:53
ompaulidefix_, read the url11:53
izza_Me too. =/11:53
robzonSeveas: ahhh finally! now migrating desktops will be much easier11:53
Wstylistjust testin Linux in Vmware i want to build my own distro11:53
thoreauputicidefix_: only if you misuse the bot - not if you use it for genuine help or info11:53
Wstylisti already hacked my NT to death11:53
thoreauputicWstylist: sounds like a good thing to do to NT ;-)11:54
ompaulWstylist, conversations take place in #ubuntu-offtopic this is a help channel11:54
izza_Honestly, I work as a tech, and I get more and more questions regarding Linux every day... just trying to get comfortable with it so I actually know what I'm talking about.11:54
idefix_!mount11:54
ubotumethinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f11:54
idefix_but you bother other people with it slightly11:55
QQ_ghostthoreauputic: how do you do that *|thoreauputic "does something" message?11:55
idefix_or is the output only in my chatwindow?11:55
ompaulidefix_, do this /msg ubotu mount << and you will not bother the,11:55
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thoreauputicQQ_ghost:   /me does something11:55
Seveas!irc11:55
ubotuwell, irc is info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat11:55
ompaulidefix_, this is IRC the granddaddy of all those little im things11:55
Seveas^-- QQ_ghost11:55
QQ_ghostthanx11:56
Wstylistizza i on the other hand want to make a distro that's PNP and Installs packages by Next buttons :)11:56
thoreauputicidefix_: we all see it11:56
ltibor65ompaul, synaptic write: "there are 7 broken packages on the system. The mplayerplug-in must be reinstalled, but I cannot find archives for it. Inner error by opening cash." What to do?11:56
robzonWstylist: you mean, you want to clone ubuntu? :)11:57
ompaulWstylist, please converse in #ubuntu-offtopic please11:57
WstylistThats why i look at alot of distros to see what i can take from em and combine into one11:57
Seveasltibor65, that sounds like serious trouble11:57
Wstylistsorry i will11:57
Seveasltibor65, try: sudo apt-get -f install11:57
thoreauputic Inner error by opening cash  <<-- that 's a new one on me11:57
Seveasand put the output on the pastebin11:57
ompaulthoreauputic, badly spelt cache11:57
Seveasthoreauputic, probably "Internal error while opening cache" :)11:57
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thoreauputicompaul: oh - I thought it was a comment on miserly behaviour11:58
thoreauputic:)11:58
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Seveasaaaaaaaaaaah caffeine11:58
ompaulback to work11:58
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SeveasI;m fighting ld.so here, that's hard work :)11:58
ltibor65Seveas, yes, I am not English.11:58
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idefix_!tell idefix_ about mount11:58
Seveasltibor65, that's not a problem, just execute the command I gave you and put the output on the pastebin11:59
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DonVinzkMorrowyn: are the versions identical for the 64 bits and 32 bits programms (I mean... are the 64 bits older or less updated ?)11:59
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kestasanyone know of a way to specify in a regex a list of chars which shouldnt be in there? like say I have a string part1/part2/part3 and I only want part3?11:59
QQ_ghostcool11:59
DonVinzkMorrowyn: and second: is it possibleto use MPlayer and the w32codecs ?11:59
kestaspart3 could be anything but it won't have a '/' charecter in it11:59
ltibor65Seveas, thanks, I try it.11:59
Sh4d0xSeveas, 'morning glad to see you11:59
Seveashi Sh4d0x12:00
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ompaulkestas, your statement | grep -v part1 | grep -v part2  will leave you with only part 3 if I understand your question12:00
Sh4d0xSeveas, i finished your request12:00
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SeveasSh4d0x, rock!12:00
visorhi guys12:00
ompaul!tell DonVinzk about restricted12:00
SeveasSh4d0x, could you e-mail it to me (dennis @ ubuntu.com)12:01
kestasompaul, nope it's a whole string, like on one line you'd get asdf/sldkfs/alsdkfl, and you only want the third part12:01
gregalright I apologize, my daughter is sick and she needed me...12:01
Sh4d0xSeveas, k, you will receive it in a moment12:01
MorrowynDonVinzk, no idea, you need to check the ubuntu site on that. i reckon if you run mplayer in the chroot 32bit env, you are fine12:01
ompaulkestas, you need to play with something called >>cut<<12:01
DonVinzkompaul... what ?12:01
Seveasgreg, then why are you in here? ;)12:01
thoreauputicgreg: no apologies required for that12:01
QQ_ghost !tell QQ_ghost about restricted12:01
kestasompaul, so I need a way to have a regex which says something like \(.*\)/\(.*\)/\(.*\)12:01
ompaulDonVinzk, check for a message from the bot12:02
visorcould somebody point me to a FAQ of mame so i can play these games... i havent found anything and the program complains about not finding files... (i know i know its a little bit off topic but we ubuntu guys know a lot dont we?)12:02
gregYou are right, I should be with her right now, but I would love to know if you found anything?12:02
kestasompaul, but instead of .* it should be [a-zA-Z0-9etcetcetc, ie everythingexcept '/'] *12:02
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gregshe is right here with me12:02
Seveaskestas, ([^/] )*$12:02
Morrowynit would be nice if ubuntu has some sort of installer for that on the 64bit arch, would save lots of time and hassle :)12:02
kestasSeveas, thanks :)12:02
ompaulkestas, ahhhhh12:02
ian_will kde packages work on gnome?12:02
Seveasian_, yes12:03
thoreauputician_: sure12:03
ian_ic thanks12:03
ltibor65Seveas, the message is: " The Mplayerplug-in must be reinstalled, but I cannot find package for it."12:03
Seveasgreg, did you get my message about the fact that your server is actually working?12:03
gregno, it is?12:03
Seveasltibor65, the *complete* output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please12:03
Seveasgreg, yes, it's on port 808112:03
QQ_ghostwhy do i get a "certificate error" on wiki.ubuntu.com?12:04
gregaha...12:04
SeveasQQ_ghost, because the certificates should be renewed12:04
thoreauputicQQ_ghost: i think it needs renewing12:04
ompaulQQ_ghost, cos someone had not renewed it12:04
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thoreauputicheh great minds...12:04
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ompauls12:04
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Sh4d0xSeveas, got it?12:04
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ltibor65Seveas, that is all.12:04
SeveasSh4d0x, yep, cool thanks :)12:05
QQ_ghostjust making sure it wasn't my browser...12:05
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Sh4d0xSeveas hope you like it :)12:05
Seveasltibor65, then put your sources.list in the pastebin :)12:05
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SeveasSh4d0x, yeah, I'll go tweak it a bit more and use it as the official logo :)12:06
ompaulright I have to do some stuff l8r12:06
nishis there any links for cool wallpapers..or i will have to stick to my chocolaty wall.....12:06
Seveas!themes12:06
thoreauputicsee you ompaul  :)12:06
Seveas!tell nish about themes12:06
thoreauputicnish: you can use any picture you like as a wallpaper12:06
gregwhat are you typing in as the url seveas?12:07
Seveashttp://64-203-185-115.va.mvl.ntelos.net:8081/12:07
nishsome website is saying i need IE for downloading wall papers..12:07
thoreauputichahah12:07
Seveasnish, then don't use that one :)12:07
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nishyeah12:07
thoreauputicnish: find some .png or .jpg pictures12:07
DonVinzkMorrowyn: can I sopy/paste my ubuntu32 sources.list on my new machine,or willI have tomodify it ?12:08
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MorrowynDonVinzk,  check your pm12:09
DonVinzkMorrowyn: yes,thks12:10
Morrowynnp12:10
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joshi_Hello. Anyone willing to help me with setting up modem?12:11
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Mabus06can somebody help me get my apt-get working?12:11
thoreauputicjoshi_: what sort of modem?12:11
Mabus06I changed my sources.list now I get all sorts of errors12:12
mp3guyhi, i'm thinking of investing in some kind of surround sound setup for my pc, just wondering what cards support surround sound in ubuntu properly?12:12
thoreauputicjoshi_: is it a serial modem? Hardware external?12:12
joshi_uhm.. laptop12:12
joshi_made by ESS Technologies12:12
win[X] ampjoshi_ : what modem12:12
Sh4d0xi'm off, playing advent rising :D cheers xxx   (Seveas, in case you need me, you know how to reach me)12:12
thoreauputicjoshi_: ah - possibly a winmodem then :(12:12
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ltibor65Seveas, I sent the sources list to the paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:13
thoreauputicjoshi_: you might want to look at  http://linmodems.org12:13
joshi_i used ScanModem for detecting my modem.12:13
QQ_ghostwhat rpg/stratagy games do a clean install in ubuntu?12:14
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joshi_it said that " There has been no formal support for Linux since kernels 2.2.2"12:14
joshi_=(12:14
thoreauputicjoshi_: :(12:14
QQ_ghosti'm still looking for AMR modem support...12:15
joshi_ESS Technology ES2838/2839 SuperLink Modem <= thats the full name12:15
Mabus06Can somebody help me to get my apt-get working? I changed my sources.list now I get all sorts of errors. apt-get update gives me errors as well.12:15
DonVinzkI have: configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required whenI try tocompile firefox...anybody with the sameproblem ?12:15
gregthanks Sevea I found it. -Greg12:16
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gregYou have been a great help.12:16
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thoreauputicjoshi_: just googled it - doesn't look very hopeful I fear12:17
thoreauputicjoshi_: mostly seems to link to sites that say it doesn't work with linux :(12:17
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slartsHi y'all ... how do you view the list of packages already installed with apt-get ... and without using synaptic?12:18
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slartsas in rpm -qa12:18
Neo_How is the name from the nero version for Linux ?12:18
thoreauputicMabus06: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list or check out the links ubotu is about to spit out12:18
thoreauputic!sources12:19
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:19
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thoreauputicslarts: try dpkg -l | less12:19
slartsta12:19
slarts... or | grep, in my case :>12:19
thoreauputicslarts: ii means installed12:19
ltibor65Seveas, any idea to synaptic-problem?12:19
thoreauputicslarts: yes if you know what you are looking for, | grep foo12:20
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joshi_thoreauputic :  The 2.4.18 driver was written for an HP XE3 notebook with an ESS modem in it, so it should work with those laptops. I don't know about other ESS modems.12:20
slartsnvidia :>12:21
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thoreauputicjoshi_: hmm - I don't know enough about winmodems to help you, sorry12:21
slartsrc means ... "removal candidate"?12:21
joshi_thoreauputic :  i have HP XE3 laptop... only diffrence is kernel version... is ther point to try that driver?12:21
thoreauputicslarts: residual configuration I think12:22
slartsas in its listed in the internal DB, but the package has actually been removed?12:22
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thoreauputicjoshi_: try *anything* you can is my advice :)12:22
thoreauputicjoshi_: you might get lucky12:22
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joshi_ok.. thnx ill go try12:22
thoreauputicjoshi_: last time I had a winmodem it was a major pain12:23
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Neo_where i can download the editor for html and what si his name ?12:23
thoreauputicslarts: I'm not sure, but I think it means it was removed but not "purged"12:24
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kestasdoes anyone know what the difference between 'export variable=0' and 'variable=0' is?12:24
Mabus06can somebody please help me to get my ATI Radeon X700 Pro woring?12:24
ltibor65Guys, how to watch TV in Ubuntu? I have both analog (Leadtek Winfast 2000 Deluxe) and digital tunercard (Technisat Skystar2) on computer. Which program need I use for it?12:24
kestaswhat does 'export' do?12:24
thoreauputicNeo_: there are quite a few - did you want a wysiwyg editor?12:24
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idefix_the private messages are blocked!12:24
mojoWhat do I do if apt chokes on a file, says error processing.  It halts both an upgrade and dist-upgrade12:24
Seveaskestas, export puts it in the envoronment12:25
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thoreauputicNeo_: if so, sudo apt-get install nvu12:25
Seveaswithout it, only the shell knows the variable12:25
kestasSeveas, if I don't use export will child processes like functions and forks still inherit the variable?12:25
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mojosub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error (1)12:25
Seveasno12:25
idefix_because I'm not registered the private message are blocked.. the only way to get info from the bot is to ask it here12:25
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thoreauputicidefix_: are you registered with nickserv ?12:26
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Seveasfunctions aren't child processes...12:26
thoreauputicidefix_: so register...12:26
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mojoIsn't there a back door to the bot via a web page?12:26
EddieDaManhi seveas, where can in find and install the w32codecs?12:26
kestasSeveas, they become seperate child processes if you fork them12:26
thoreauputic!ubotu12:26
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.12:26
kestasSeveas, looks like they are inheriting non exported variables though, so that's fine12:27
ltibor65How to watch TV on Ubuntu? Any idea?12:27
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EddieDaMan!w32codec12:27
ubotusomebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install12:27
SeveasEddieDaMan, try cipherfunk (google is your friend)12:27
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mojoltibor65: mythtv, freevo, and others?12:27
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EddieDaManthank12:27
QQ_ghosti'm having trouble downloading w32codecs, is there a mirror somewhere...?12:28
mojoltibor65: for PVR/Tivo like functions (and more), but will also simply tune the tv cards and let you watch12:28
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mojoIs there a dapper-specific chat channel???  I have problems with apt errors on Dapper F2 AMD6412:28
DonVinzkIf I install a ubuntu i386 distribution on an amd64, willit work ?12:29
mojoDonVinzk: YES YES YES :)12:29
ltibor65mojo, mythtv is a bit difficult, it uses mySQL database.12:29
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mojoDonVinzk: I am running since 4.10 thru 5.04 and 5.10 Ubuntu i386 on AMD64 NVidia NForce3 Ultra mobo12:30
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idefix_well.. there probably are some really quiet channels where you could use the bot without annoying too many people12:30
mojoDonVinzk: Have not tried Dapper i386, am trying out the 64-bit variant12:30
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DonVinzkmojo: ok.Because I want toinstall it on my mother's computer, but I guess she will not be happy to use a chroot envirronment everytime...12:30
mojoThere should be a web-page back-door to Ubotu so you can ask it questions w/o bothering folks in channels12:31
DonVinzkand until there is a good 64 support... Because she will buy it this afternoon...12:31
thoreauputicmojo: you already can if you register - just do /query ubotu12:31
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mojoDonVinzk: She will be pleased, AMD64 runs i386 well for me12:31
MorrowynDonVinzk, just run ubuntu 32bit12:32
Morrowynit runs fine :)12:32
DonVinzkMorrowyn: yes, and I am becoming used to it...so...12:32
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QQ_ghostmojo: try /msg ubotu12:32
mojoDonVinzk: Yes, I understand.  It is mainly Flash for me that gets under my skin regarding 64bit support.  ATI finally came out with video drivers last Jan.12:32
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DonVinzkmojo: I thought building firefox from source, telling him to build it in 32bits would work12:33
mojoQQ_ghost: Yeah, but some dude with unregistered nick can't do that and was trying to here.  I can understand... some people are not fond of registering12:33
Morrowyni ditched ubu64 for ubu32, but only coz im too lazy to figure out how to setup shop properly for maya 32bit ... i might check it in the near future12:33
Morrowynapart from maya, everything ran peachy for me, apart from flash ... but you need to complain at macromedia about that12:34
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apokryphosHobbsee: nope, it only ever did at times of high bot-flow12:34
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mojoQQ_ghost: plus, it would be handy sometimes as many ppl use ffox to resarch on the web, and only fire up irc after they get stuck and even then would hit ubotu first.  A web to ubotu's data would be useful and efficient for folks.12:34
DonVinzkmojo: and I had the w32codecs issue too which seemsannoying12:34
Hobbseeah, wish it always did - it's far easier when people register12:34
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Hobbseemojo: there is one, but what's the address?12:35
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mojoDonVinzk: Oh yeah, sometimes I forget that those are there.  I hate having to use them.  I try to stay with FOSS media formats as much as possible.12:35
QQ_ghostmojo: gotta argee with ya there...12:35
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Drakenguys, is it possable to bridge two network cards like in windows xp ?12:35
apokryphosHobbsee: easier to do what?12:35
mojoHobbsee: I dunno!12:35
Hobbseemojo: http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:35
DonVinzkmojo: me too, but I do not always find what I need in FOSS formats12:35
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Hobbseefound it, again, via a google search12:35
DonVinzkand I gues my mother... will not understand the issue ;-) mojo12:36
Drakenguys, is it possable to bridge two network cards like in windows xp ?12:36
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yatesythe internet wouldn't exist if it wasn't ;P12:36
QQ_ghostDraken: xp supports 2 nic's?12:36
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Drakenya ?12:37
mojoDraken: Yes you can.  And you can bridge more than one without upgrading to the "server" product ;)12:37
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Drakenmojo12:37
Drakenhow ?12:37
mojoDraken: that is, you can bridge 5 or more if u got 'em12:37
Mabus06Can somebody please help me to get my ATI card to work with ubuntu? Tried the wiki article that ubotu said, but it doesn't work.12:37
mojoDraken: The easiest way is to use Firestarter to set up the connection sharing.  But it (presently) only supports it for one additional port.12:38
Drakenwell12:38
mojoDraken: to do it for more than one you need to manually do it.  It is done through IPTABLES i believe.  It is called MASQUERADING if I am not mistaken.12:38
Drakeni only got 2 network cards, well 3, but im only using two12:38
yatesymojo: wrong12:38
yatesymojo: that ISN'T bridging12:38
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mojoDraken: righ on.  you should be able to do that.  Um, yatesy, feel free.  I am not an egg spurt12:39
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Drakenk ta mojo12:39
yatesyDraken: you want a true bridge and not NAT right?12:39
yatesyie what comes in on one nic goes out the other untouched?12:39
Drakendont mind, as long as its like my current windows xp12:39
mojoyatesy: Draken: I think you meant the equivalent of Internet Connection Sharing????12:40
Mabus06Can somebody please help me to get my ATI card to work with ubuntu? Tried the wiki article that ubotu said, but it doesn't work. I have no gui so it's hard to get help for myself on google etc.12:40
Drakenwell mojo12:40
Drakeni got a 10mb network card, and 2 1gig network cards12:40
Drakenin windows, they all bridge12:40
Drakenso it acts as one big network card12:40
QQ_ghostDraken: i don't think xp does a straight-through12:40
yatesythats a true bridge12:40
Drakenso 3 ppl can connect to me like if i got a built in hub12:41
yatesyDraken: http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bridge12:41
Drakenk12:41
QQ_ghostDraken: i am almost certain xp can only do NAT12:41
mojoDraken:So you mean it, like, aggregates them ???  Okay my bad, I am not so familiar with that but have heard of it.12:41
yatesyQQ_ghost: well you're wrong :P12:41
QQ_ghostyatesy: not the first time12:42
QQ_ghostlol12:42
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yatesyQQ_ghost: "A bridge is a way to connect two Ethernet segments together in a protocol independent way. Packets are forwarded based on Ethernet address, rather than IP address (like a router). Since forwarding is done at Layer 2, all protocols can go transparently through a bridge."12:42
mojoDraken: I have 2 gig on mobo and one 100mb, and use one to the cable modem and the other two each to a roommate.12:42
yatesycan't you guys be bothered to get a switch? ;)12:43
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yatesyheh12:44
Drakenyatesy12:44
Drakenits my dad, to noob to upgrade his 10mb card12:44
Draken:p12:44
yatesylol12:44
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mojoHey, is there a Dapper channel?  I have dapper problems12:45
yatesytell him it'll be cheaper than the cost of leaving your pc on all the time to give him internet access :)12:45
Mabus06Can somebody please help me to get my ATI card to work with ubuntu? Tried the wiki article that ubotu said, but it doesn't work. I have no gui so it's hard to get help for myself on google etc.12:45
mojoMabus06: how far u get?12:46
Mabus06Installed fglrx I think.12:46
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Mabus06but it just isn't working12:46
mojoxorg-driver-fglrx ?12:46
mojoMabus06: using apt-get?12:46
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mojoMabus06: a good place to start is /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:47
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yatesydid you even change over your Xorg config file?12:47
mojo!dapper12:47
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake12:47
Mabus06apt-get I got to work12:47
Mabus06mojo, should I pastebin xorg.0.log?12:47
Mabus06or is there an easier way to do that, considering I only have lynx for browsing?12:47
mojoMabus06: well, I am in text-only too.  but yes, you should anyway, I can always start GDM back up12:48
haakonndapper drake? i would have prefferred dapperiva12:48
Seveasshiver12:48
Seveasmandriva :|12:48
Hobbseemojo: it's here, as well - no separate dapper channel12:48
mojoMabus06: you can use grep to filter the output of the log file.  Try it with (EE) for error lines, or WW for warning.12:48
mojoHobbsee: I am having horrible problems, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade both fail with dpkg errors processing a file.12:49
Hobbseewhich errors?  pastebin them?12:49
mojoHobbsee: Ug, okay.  I'll restart gdm and fire up ffox...12:49
Seveasmojo, no need12:49
Seveaswget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin12:50
Seveaschmod +x pastebin12:50
Seveasand pipe output to it :)12:50
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mojoMabus06: Hey, go on and pastebin your Xorg.0.log AND your /etc/X11/xorg.conf files since I'm going graphical here anyway12:50
mojobbiaf12:50
Mabus06mojo, I have a driver cd should I use that? But is it only for windows that I can use it?12:50
mojoMabus06: scratch that, now i cant start GDM cuz of my broken upgrade. (sigh)12:51
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yuri_How can I burn Files in Ubuntu?12:51
Mabus06mojo, so will my drivers cd do any good?12:51
erchachei have a server on production mode with ubuntu amd64 over hoary....is secure to make a dist-upgrade to breezy....i did since months ago and need to reinstall all system12:52
mojoMabus06: you should first be trying the ubuntu package for the ATI binary drivers.  It is called xorg-driver-fglrx and is avialable in apt or Synaptic program on administrative menu.12:52
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mojoMabus06: NOT sure if you need to activate the universe or multiverse repositories, though.12:52
mojoMabus06: you might.12:52
Seveasmojo, no, only restricted :)12:53
yuri_How can I burn Files in Ubuntu?12:53
Seveaswith a match12:53
Mabus06I already ahve it12:53
mojomojo: if you mean the one that came with the gfx card?  No.  I doubt it.  Not for Linux.12:53
brenneryuri_: open up nautilus, then go > cd/dvd creator, then drag and drop12:54
mojoMabus06: you already have xorg-driver-fglrx installed via Ubuntu package management system (apt/synaptic)12:54
mojo??12:54
Mabus06apt yes12:54
brenneryuri_: or you can use a specialised app12:54
mojoSeveas: k12:54
yuri_nautilus?12:54
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thoreauputicyuri_: the file manager12:54
Mabus06my x isn't working, that's the problem. So I can't use synaptic or anything.12:54
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yuri_I ave Kde?12:54
yuri_Kubuntu*12:54
hanghello,anyone there?12:54
yuri_have*12:55
brenneryuri_: then why'd you say ubuntu?12:55
mojoMabus06: Okay then.  Well, you may have used it to start the install12:55
hangthere are something wrong with my cedega ,help me please12:55
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thoreauputicyuri_: ah - well install k3b then - it's an excellent CD burner12:55
apokryphosthoreauputic: already installed on kubuntu12:55
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apokryphosyuri_: just alt+f2 -> k3b12:55
mojoMabus06: There is after all the foss 'ati' driver, xorg-driver-ati that does not have all the hardware acceleration but gives  u x12:55
yuri_thoreauputic: 10x, brenner : sorry:\12:55
thoreauputicapokryphos: ah right - I did the kubuntu-desktop thing :)12:56
apokryphosyup, that brings it in12:56
thoreauputicapokryphos: I think I already had k3b12:56
hangthere are something wrong with my cedega12:56
thoreauputicthus I didn't know it was default12:56
apokryphos8)12:56
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mojoMabus06: but you can get the fglrx to work.  i have a radeon 9800 xt working fine on Breezy12:56
brenneryuri_: no worries12:57
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Mabus06mojo, fglrxinfo yields an error12:58
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mojoMabus06: have you tried grepping the x log for errors yet?12:58
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thoreauputichang: we can't really help with cedega - I assume you paid for it and get support from them12:58
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hanghmm..:(12:58
Mabus06Xlib connection to ":0.0" refused by server12:58
thoreauputichang: cedega is not part of ubuntu12:58
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mojoMabus06: try something like "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE" or try with WW for warning lines.  If too much for a screen (doubtful), you can also pipe to more by adding "|more"12:59
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hango12:59
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ltibor65mojo, I tried install Zapping for Tv, but it says:"checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool01:00
ltibor65" What to do?01:00
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quothI recompiled my own kernel and now I lost the graphical splashscreen/wrapper when booting, how do I get this back?01:00
kino-takhey everyone01:01
kino-takhi01:01
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brennerltibor65: why compile? it's in the universe repo01:01
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yuri_in Kubuntu, How can I do to see eather my NTFS drives?01:01
magoocan someone help me compilee my kernel01:02
mojoltibor65: find out what that XML parser library is and install it.  you are having a dependency problem no?  You need to find out what libraries and such this Zapping for TV program requires and install them.  Once you have the perl module for XML parsing it wants it will either complete or at least go on to the next dependency it is missing and fail there.01:02
thoreauputicyuri_: you know that there is a #kubuntu channel, right?01:02
mojoltibor65: or so i believe ;)01:02
kino-takdoes anyone use amule here01:02
mojokino-tak: no, i prefer llamas01:03
yuri_thoreauputi, yes but it doest active01:03
mojo(joke)01:03
ltibor65thanks, mojo, I try it.01:03
mojoltibor65: good luck!01:03
thoreauputic!tell yuri about windowsdrives01:04
kino-takanyother p2p software would make it, I just need it for documentation01:04
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ltibor65brenner, I would install with synaptic, bit momentan it don't works.01:04
thoreauputicyuri_: check your pm01:04
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aLeSDhi all01:05
mojonow if someone could help me fix dpkg error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.7-2_all.deb because it is killing my apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade.  My Dapper is broken!01:05
mojoaLeSD: ale and lsd don't mix01:05
kino-takso no amule....01:05
mojoaLeSD: i suggest sticking to the lsd ;)01:05
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aLeSDI have a problem in ubuntu istallation : when Installing base package begins it gives me herror like I cannot find cp or rm command. Anyone could me help^01:06
aLeSD?01:06
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QQ_ghostkino-tak: i have been looking for a p2p program for linux for a while01:06
brennerltibor65: bit momentan?01:06
mojokino-tak: no amule.  i use something called mldonkey, but it is not that great like it could be01:06
pilgrimTo enable DMA for my HD I would do this  (accoring to ubotu): sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda ...right?01:06
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mojokino-tak: i heard that you can get a limewire for linux.01:06
QQ_ghostkino-tak: i suppose you could run it in wine...01:06
thoreauputic!limewire01:06
ubotusomebody said limewire was first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.01:06
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mojokino-tak: I use bittorrent for most stuff.  There is a java client called Azureus with a nice interface, or the bittorent client that comes with Ubuntu Breezy01:07
brennerpilgrim: sounds right01:07
pilgrimbrenner, thanks.01:07
brennerthen you can check with hdparm -d01:08
mojokino-tak: mldonkey is a multi-protocol p2p program that runs as a daemon in the background and you talk to it thru a klunky html interface on your local port (127.0.0.1 aka localhost) or use some other front-end01:08
mojokino-tak: I have heard that mldonkey is buggy on some of the networks.  I am mostly into freely tradeable music like dead and phish shows anyway01:09
pilgrimbrenner, bad news. looks like it _was_ on before I turned it on. Bad news because speed is not there.01:09
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mojokino-tak: if you know what p2p NETWORK you want (like Gnutella or ed2k), you can search Synaptic for them by including the descriptions in your search thru the packages.01:10
brennerpilgrim: eek.  i wouldn't know about that one, sorry.01:10
pilgrimbrenner, it's all good. thanks for your help.01:10
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KaRupTIs there ANYWAY to resize an active partition??01:11
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mojoKaRupT: only if you are really into your name01:11
KaRupTwhat does that mean?01:11
pilgrimmojo, LOL01:11
mojoyou will risk KaRupT data ;)01:11
KaRupTIts a brand new part im not worried about data loss01:11
mojoKaRupT: LOL I mean mucking with an active filesystem like that.01:12
KaRupTI need like a 10Gb chunk thats all01:12
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mojoKaRupT: you absolutely should unmount a filesystem before re-sizing the partition it lives on.01:12
KaRupTQTparted when I right click on it has resize greyed out01:12
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KaRupTBut how can i unmount it when it is the partition that my distro is on?01:13
raphaHi all!01:13
mojoKaRupT: You need to boot to a live cd or something and do it when logged into another root filesystem01:13
KaRupTok01:13
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mojoKaRupT: Good luck01:13
raphaI just installed MySQL via Synaptic, but it doesn't start ... always says to check the system log but that doesn't say anything either :-(01:13
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olicatany ideas why i can ping myself, but can't ping my router?01:14
mojoPlease!  Help me fix dpkg error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.7-2_all.deb because it is killing my apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade.  My Dapper is broken!01:14
erchacheolicat: check cable01:14
mojoolicat: DHCP or static ip?01:14
iiveolicat, you can always ping yourself01:14
olicatmojo: static ip01:15
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olicatit's wireless01:15
mojoolicat: check cable ;)01:15
erchacherapha: can you see mysqld on ps aux | grep mysql01:15
Hobbseemojo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106978 help?  You might want to visit ubuntuforums.org, dapper section, a little more often :P01:15
raphaerchache: nope01:15
mojoolicat: you could have your stuff misconfigured for subnet01:15
Hobbseemojo: use w3m as your web browser, which is CLI01:15
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mojoHobbsee: w3m?  cool.  better than lynx?01:15
Hobbseeyeah01:15
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mojoHobbsee: okay lets see if apt will install that or not.01:16
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Hobbseeit should already be on your system...01:16
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mojoHobbsee: no joy.  i'll have to write it down and reboot to breezy01:17
aLeSDMi installation say dpkg(subprocess): failed to exec rm to cleanup.... on installation . ideas?01:17
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wizardjameshello,   today i got a new hdd.  i wish to make my current install of my main hdd (mostly windows with a 15 gig partion for ubuntu)  i want to expan that space to my new hdd.  how would i go about that?..01:17
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mojoHobbsee: I only just loaded dapper on here 2 days ago and have not had time to play.  first update, upgrade, dist-upgrade since install. :(01:17
Hobbseeah ok01:18
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kestashow can I allow people to su to nobody?01:18
Mabus06how do I restart x?01:18
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robotgeekMabus06: ctrl + alt + del01:19
QQ_ghostMabus06: ctl-alt-bkspc01:19
thoreauputickestas: what on earth for?01:19
aLeSDkestas...  I think u cannot because nobody doesn't have a shell01:19
robotgeekQQ_ghost: :)01:19
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mojoMabus06: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart01:19
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QQ_ghostrobotgeek: lol01:19
jazwechi..i want to start using ubuntu (i have kubuntu now) and i want some tips..like pluses and minuses and so..your experiences with ubuntu..01:20
mojorobotgeek: no, ctrl-alt-backspace01:20
aLeSDsomeone could help me?01:20
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kestasthoreauputic, I run a script which I takes input and doesnt check it very well, basically I dont trust this script so I'd like to run it in an environment where it cant do any real damage01:20
robotgeekmojo: hmm, okay. one my kb it's del :)01:20
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mojorobotgeek: np, all in fun01:20
robotgeekaLeSD: could you describe what do u need help with?01:20
QQ_ghostrobotgeek: that restarts the pc...01:20
brennerjazwec: it's pretty much just gnome and synaptic vs kde and whatever they use :)01:20
wizardjameshey guys,   got a new hdd today,  how do i go about partiing it so i can store files on it01:20
mojowizardjames: gparted or qparted01:21
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wizardjamesyeah, i got that far01:21
thoreauputickestas: erm...01:21
wizardjamesbut then i get alittle lost01:21
EddieDaManmojo, can you help me install ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0unofficialubuntu2_i386.deb01:21
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raptoidwizardjames, What did you expect to read here?01:21
mojowizardjames: g for gtk/gnome, q for qtlib/kde01:21
kestasthoreauputic, that's what nobody is for right? :|01:21
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thoreauputickestas: why would you run a scriptyou don't trust?01:21
mojoEddieDaMan: if i was at your house ;)01:21
EddieDaManmojo, i'm having trouble install w32 on ubuntu 5.1001:21
wizardjamesi know..    what type to i format the space into.01:21
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aLeSDin the end I'm tring to install a ubuntu to a win user... and I'm cutting a bad figure01:22
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maskdwizardjames: ext3 works best01:22
kestasthoreauputic, because it does something I want.. I wrote it myself I trust the script itself, it downloads and parses a website though and the script is open source, there are some holes in it which could allow you to inject an rm -rf ~ command01:22
wizardjamesok,  ..  um ..may i ask what ext 2 is?01:22
mojoEddieDaMan: i forget where win32codecs are and am not in a x environment to go search.  try google "win32codecs ubuntu package breezy" if you are on breezy and see what it gets you01:22
mmansHi All! Is it possible to start the ubuntu (5.10) install CD and force the installer to first load the AHCI module, before the ATA_PIIX module?01:22
EddieDaManthanks01:23
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mojoEddieDaMan: or maybe w32codecs or may be singular not plural, i forget01:23
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mojoMabus06: any luck?01:23
raphaCan nobody help me get MySQL to start?01:23
jazwecbrenner i have so much problems with kubuntu..for example my computer stays on when i want to shutdown..codecs wont install..burning is too slow..and many many more01:23
kino-takI say, nobody is using and amule or p2p software here?!?01:23
nick_yes, I reconfiured x to use less resolution01:24
KyKoI just install ubuntu hoary and I want VLC... apt-cache search vlc yields no results... so I will download it from the site... can I get the one precompiled for Debian or do I need to get the source code?01:24
jazwecbrenner and the biggest problem is that kubuntu has no support in my country..only ubuntu01:24
mojokino-tak: i told ya i use mldonkey and azureus01:24
QQ_ghostkino-tak: only on my win partition...01:24
maskdwizardjames: ext3 is the type of partition, linux equivilant to ntfs01:24
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kino-taksorry mojo, I didnt see that01:24
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wizardjamesi see, cool.. i havent had much time to read alot of stuff.01:24
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mojokino-tak: someone else said limewire is a java client so you can run it on java after installing java01:24
aLeSDhow could I have a better log in installation time ?01:24
wizardjameshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  <link to get the w32codics stuff01:25
kino-takQQ-ghst, you think p2p under linux is not good?01:25
brennerubotu: tell EddieDaMan about w32codecs01:25
thedom_Has anyone had much experience with LTSP and PXE booting?01:25
Mabus06How do I mount .iso files?01:25
mojo!p2p01:25
ubotufrom memory, p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo01:25
brennerjazwec: what do you mean kubuntu has no support?01:25
mjrMabus06, sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt01:25
mojo!tell kino-tak about p2p01:25
aLeSDMobus06 -o loop if I remember good01:25
brennerjazwec: and i doubt at least 2 of those probs are kubuntu's fault01:26
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QQ_ghostkino-tak: i love FOSS, and love a good gui, so i use shareaza in win (but only til i get wine going)01:26
ROBOdhey guys01:26
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ROBOdi've installed XFCE 401:26
aLeSDMobus06: and u have to have the option in the kernel01:26
thedom_No? Ah well, not to worry.01:26
robotgeekthedom_: i have some idea abt PXE booting01:26
aLeSDhelp!01:26
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ROBOdand the only thing I want from it ... is the Debian menu01:26
ROBOdhow can I put it in Gnome?01:26
kino-takI see QQ, i just need it for documentation (Cisco manuals and stuff), can you find it there?01:26
mojoaLeSD: loop mounts work on the ubuntu kernels01:27
maskdROBOd, what things are in the debian menu?01:27
kino-takFOSS=?01:27
thoreauputicROBOd: install menu and menu-xdg ,  update-menus01:27
thedom_robotgeek: Ah, wonderful :) I was wondering if you could offer any tips: My thin clients just all say tftp: File not found, yet as far as I can see the files are placed correctly.01:27
ROBOdmaskd: more than in my Gnome, some of them are menu items for packages I installed ... which i didn't see in Gnome Applications menu01:27
jazwecbrenner i had other linux distros /mandrake, fedora/ and everything was allright..and then somebody told my that kubuntu is good and i installed it...and that support problem..im from czech and here are only sites about ubuntu...also forums and so..01:27
EddieDaManthanks brenner01:28
QQ_ghostkino-tak: Free-Open-Source-Software01:28
ROBOdthoreauputic: how to use that?01:28
robotgeekthedom_: specify the mac address in your dhcp server?01:28
funkyHatSeveas, I don't think the pastebin script is working...01:28
thoreauputicROBOd: just install them and you will have debian menus01:28
maskdROBOd: You could always manually add the items to the gnome menu by copying their commands01:28
thedom_No I didn't....should I? I've only put in the IPs.01:28
kino-takThanks QQ01:28
brennerjazwec: your english is pretty good.  i'm sure the people in #kubuntu could help you01:29
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QQ_ghostkino-tak: shareaza get's on gnutella 1 & 2, and e-donkey 2k01:29
ROBOdthoreauputic: how to install them? and which packages exactly? :)01:29
maskdreckon the VLC for dapper would work with breezy? it's much better01:29
Mabus06my synaptic or updates won't open01:29
ROBOdsorry i'm a semi-beginner :(01:29
Mabus06any ideas?01:29
thoreauputicROBOd: I told you actually01:29
thoreauputicROBOd:  sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg01:29
maskdMabus06: does it say it's loading on the bottom panel and then nothing happens?01:29
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Mabus06yeah01:30
maskdare = at01:30
kino-takQQ, apt-get install shareaza?01:30
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maskdMabus06: if you sudo synaptic does it work?01:30
maskdin terminal01:30
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kino-takROBOd, Me201:30
mmansOr is it possible to start the ubuntu installer with ata_piix completly disabled?01:30
QQ_ghostkino-tak: no, there is no port for shareaza that i could find...01:31
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kino-takI see01:31
Mabus06unable to get lock, maskd01:31
ROBOdthoreauputic: thanks dude, i got it now :P!01:31
maskdQQ_ghost: you could try limewire or some other p2p program, and if your using it for bittorrent there are way better programs out there01:31
thoreauputicROBOd: OK :) You'll need the universe repository enabled01:31
mojottfn all, gotta boot out!  peace on men and goodwill toward earth!01:31
jazwecbrenner thanks..i will try that first..01:31
QQ_ghostkino-tak: but "synaptic" for wine, then install shareaza in wine...01:32
maskdMabus06: i have no idea, maybe try and restart gdm01:32
QQ_ghost!limewire01:32
uboturumour has it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.01:32
maskdMabus06: ctrl+alt+backspace01:32
kino-takQQ synaptic is like Wine? I mean, you can run win apps under it?01:32
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QQ_ghostl8er mojo01:32
ROBOdthoreauputic: already had it :)01:33
ROBOdthoreauputic: now ... how to easily add menu items? :)01:33
thoreauputicROBOd: OK then :)01:33
brennerkino-tak: nope. it's a package mgr.  nothing to do with emulation01:33
Liothenif X crashes and doesn't come back or hangs do "ctrl+alt+f1" login to your account then do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"01:33
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doojinhi01:33
QQ_ghostkino-tak: no, "synaptic" is the gui for apt-get i guess, and wine is just a compatibility layer for running windows apps in linux01:34
thoreauputicROBOd: it should happen automatically - run update-menus (or update-menu I forget)01:34
funkyHatLiothen, ctrl+alt+backspace is just as good isn't it?01:34
hothhello all. how do I add search paths for shared libs in ubuntu? I think I had something in /etc/ld.conf (or something like that) in my previous debian (followed by running 'ldconfig'), what's the equivalent in ubuntu?01:34
LiothenfunkyHat. sometiems gdm hangs and doesnt restart01:34
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maskdfunkyHat: gdm restart is a more "elegant" way of doing it01:34
doojinmaskd : hi01:34
thoreauputicROBOd: anything you install should get added to the debian menu01:34
ROBOdthoreauputic: that worked .. i got Debian menu now :)01:34
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maskdhi doojin01:34
doojinmaskd : do you use a messenger?01:34
ShadowWRKguys, i have a question about installing ubuntu01:34
funkyHatmaskd, yes ;) but if gdm has already hung... ;)01:34
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thoreauputicROBOd: :)01:34
maskddoojin: like msn messenger?01:34
ROBOdthoreauputic: but ... i still want to have my other stuff in it ...01:35
doojinmaskd : yes01:35
maskddoojin: yeah i do01:35
apokryphosShadowWRK: no-one can answer it if you don't ask first =)01:35
LiothenfunkyHat. my friends pc was haivng problems with this when he did the bksp command while in gnome... it works fine when in fluxbox for me01:35
ROBOdthoreauputic: how to add my own custom menu items? :)01:35
[-SiO-] does anyone think setting up ASUS AX700 PRO (grafix card using the ati radion x700 chipset) would be a pain?01:35
ShadowWRKok.. thanks apokryphos01:35
thoreauputicROBOd: well either use the gnome menu editor or install alacarte01:35
ShadowWRKhere's the thing. i have windows xp and recently bought an external 400 gig drive01:35
ShadowWRKis there any way to install ubuntu to run off a partition on that drive?01:35
ShadowWRKi want to double boot01:36
apokryphosShadowWRK: dual-boot, of course.01:36
ShadowWRKwindows xp is already installed..01:36
ROBOdthoreauputic: gnome-menu-editor ..01:36
ShadowWRKok, so whats my next step? just boot off the ubuntu dvd?01:36
apokryphosShadowWRK: more than half the users in here dual-boot, I'd say.01:36
ShadowWRKcool01:36
apokryphosShadowWRK: best shot is to partition it, and install Windoze first, then Linux01:36
thoreauputicROBOd: try typing "smeg"  no quotes :)01:36
apokryphosShadowWRK: because XP is evil and overwrites the MBR without listing Linux as a bootable option. There's way to fix it later, but it's more of a hassle.01:37
ShadowWRKok.. think it'll be better if i repartition the SATA drive? right now it has a 10gig xp partition01:37
funkyHatapokryphos, he's already got XP installed01:37
ShadowWRKgotcha01:37
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ShadowWRKxp is already installed01:37
apokryphosah, ok01:37
wizardjameshow do i um...mount a ext3 partion on a new hdd i just made?01:37
thoreauputicROBOd: it's installed by default in breezy - Simple Menu Editor for Gnome01:37
Drakenguys, is it possable to be in ubuntu, access my NTFS drive and PLAY a movie/mp3 off it ?01:37
apokryphosShadowWRK: sure, you can install it on a partition now. Ubuntu DVD/CD -- both good.01:37
ShadowWRKyes draken01:37
wizardjamesDraken,  yes01:37
robotgeekubotu: tell Draken about ntfs01:37
ShadowWRKi have the dvd, i was playing around with it a few weeks ago01:37
brenner[-SiO-] : somewhat.  you'd probably have to use the official ati.com driver rather than the one in the repos to get dri working.  and that can be a bit fiddly01:37
ROBOdthoreauputic: yeah, but i can't copy menu items LOL01:37
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ShadowWRKso i just boot off it... ill make a fat32 partition just in case on the primary sata drive01:38
ROBOdthoreauputic: apt-get install alacarte ?01:38
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Drakenthanks cool01:38
thoreauputicROBOd: I don't follow you01:38
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ShadowWRKnow another question01:38
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ShadowWRKwhat's this nonsense about ubuntu not having any development tools (heard it from a friend who runs debian)01:38
ShadowWRKhe says i wont be able to download/compile proggies, other than executables01:38
funkyHatwell... nonsense01:38
ROBOdthoreauputic: i see the menu items ... i want to move some of them in other places ... or even copy ...01:38
apokryphosShadowWRK: you install one package that pulls in all the things you'd need to build most standard things01:38
ShadowWRKnonsense?01:38
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thoreauputicShadowWRK: it has them - you just install them just like debian - build-essential01:39
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raphinkShadowWRK: totally nonsense01:39
ShadowWRKapt-get in other words01:39
ShadowWRKthought so..01:39
ShadowWRKthanks01:39
apokryphosShadowWRK: the package is on the dvd/cd, too (just not installed by default).01:39
ROBOdthoreauputic: smeg only allows edit/delete/add (not copy/cut)01:39
wizardjamesmounting a ext3 partion..    how do i go about this?01:39
ROBOdis alacarte better?01:39
LiothenShadowWRK. you can sitll compile apps... its just easier using apt-get01:39
apokryphoswizardjames: permanently? Create an fstab entry01:39
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doojinmaskd ; you there?01:40
ShadowWRKyes  , of course.. compiling is only for the times i cant find a binary01:40
raphinkShadowWRK: it's just not installed by default, but of course it's avaialable01:40
wizardjameshow about just temp,01:40
maskddoojin: yeah for some reason gaim 1.5 opened instead of 2.0...01:40
ShadowWRKraphink- how would i install it if i wanted01:40
wizardjamesthen i will do a fstab later01:40
thoreauputicROBOd: alacarte is better - but I never felt the need to copy/cut so I don't know if it does what you want01:40
raphinkShadowWRK: apt-get install build-essential01:40
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ShadowWRKahh.. ok i get it01:40
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raphinkShadowWRK: that install the basic required packages for development01:40
ShadowWRKsame as debian in other words01:40
ShadowWRKyep01:40
raphinkShadowWRK: exactly ;)01:40
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jazwecbrenner could you just help me with one thing? i want to resize my ext3 partition..without loosing data01:41
apokryphoswizardjames: sudo mount /dev/hdaX /media/somefolder -t ext3 -o umask=00001:41
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funkyHatShadowWRK, yeah, your friend is probably just jealous of ubuntu for some bizarre reason ;)01:41
brennerShadowWRK: you can tell tell him/her off now01:41
brenner:)01:41
QQ_ghostwizardjames: mount -t auto /dev/(partition) /mnt/(mountpoint)01:41
ShadowWRKhe mentioned fragmenting the community or some stuff01:41
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ShadowWRKwhatever that means.01:41
thoreauputicShadowWRK: more nonsense01:41
raphinkfragmenting the community?01:41
ShadowWRKhes a die-hard debian user, i guess01:41
funkyHatSounds like it01:42
ShadowWRKhe said ubuntu is causing fragmentation of the debian community :)01:42
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thoreauputicShadowWRK: the Ubuntu devs are often also debian devs01:42
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raphinkShadowWRK: look at the devs's profiles around on ubuntu. most of them are die-hard debian devs.01:42
ShadowWRKlol01:42
apokryphosall of the core ubuntu devs are debian ones, yup.01:42
ShadowWRKk.. perfect, thanks for the answers folks01:42
thoreauputicShadowWRK: and stuff flows upstream to debian01:42
raphinkShadowWRK: so far, ubuntu is causing improvement of the Debian system01:42
raphink;)01:42
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thoreauputicShadowWRK: also most sensible debian people welcome ubuntu and co-operate with it01:42
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Tichoi hear DDs wear "I'm not an Ubuntu dev" t-shirts on DD gatherings, though :>01:43
ShadowWRKexactly01:43
QQ_ghostso is ubuntu a friendly fork of debian?01:43
ShadowWRKi loved ubuntu when playing with the live dvd01:43
apokryphosraphink: ian disagrees01:43
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brennerjazwec: i couldn't walk you through it.  my guess is you should use gparted/qtparted.  apparently, you need to unmount the partition you wish to resize (i.e. it can't be active01:43
johnnybezakdebian devs are bitter01:43
ShadowWRKcant wait to install it for dual booting..01:43
apokryphoswe're friendly, and we mean wel, but not all debian users see it that way (and neither does the debian founder)01:43
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ROBOdhow to install TTF fonts?01:43
johnnybezakbecause shuttleworth is a pragmatist01:43
thoreauputicQQ_ghost: frindly yes - fork not really01:43
johnnybezakROBOd: you mean the ms ones?01:43
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jazwecbrenner but how? im using it right now..maybe with kubuntu live cd? or i dont know...01:44
ROBOdjohnnybezak: i already got those01:44
thoreauputic!info msttcorefonts01:44
johnnybezakROBOd: k01:44
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB01:44
QQ_ghostthoreauputic: just a few script/eyecandy changes then?01:44
maskdWhy dislike anything free?01:44
ROBOdjohnnybezak: i mean ... TTF fonts of mine ;) ...01:44
apokryphosit is technically a clear fork01:44
ROBOdhow to add mine?01:44
johnnybezakraphink: y not? were you a debian fan boi? :)01:44
mweROBOd: if you got the ttf file just put it in the ttf fonts dir01:44
apokryphosQQ_ghost: a lot more. The whole repositories are different.01:44
thoreauputicQQ_ghost: more than that - but ubuntu syncs with sid every 6 months01:45
brennerjazwec: yes.  with the live cd iirc.  but i've never done it so i couldn't walk you through as i said before01:45
johnnybezakanyone here use rat poison01:45
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ROBOdmwe: where's the fonts dir?01:45
thoreauputicjohnnybezak: only on rats ;)01:45
apokryphosmepis, for example, has a far closer with debian01:45
ShadowWRKarsenic?01:45
raphinkjohnnybezak: yep, and I was afraid Ubuntu would act like Linspire and Xandros do when it was first released. Then I understood that Ubuntu is the only Debian-based project that respects the Debian way.01:45
brennercould someone pls help jazwec with resizing a partition?01:45
ShadowWRKive used it to kill insects01:45
apokryphoswhich perhaps has caused its lack of success, really.01:45
mweROBOd: the trutype fonts dir is /usr/share/fonts/truetype/01:45
QQ_ghostthoreauputic: kewl, was just wonderin', thanx01:45
johnnybezakthoreauputic: haha01:45
maskdShudder; linspire01:45
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maskdi actually used that for a day01:45
johnnybezakShadowWRK: nope its a window manager like gnu screen01:45
maskdit was uninstalled straight away01:45
ShadowWRKhah01:46
ShadowWRKoh nah01:46
johnnybezakraphink: yeah01:46
johnnybezakmaskd: good for noobs though01:46
jazwecbrenner yeah..btw i dont know why..but i have now problems with starting applications..icon is jumping near my cursor for a while..and then it just do nothing01:46
raphinkjohnnybezak: now I develop for ubuntu, so you guess I don't think so anymore ;)01:46
QQ_ghosthe just said linspire. hahahahaha01:46
johnnybezakraphink: haha obviously not01:46
ShadowWRKlinspire = lindows?01:46
ShadowWRKlol01:46
Jaymacyes01:46
raphinkShadowWRK: yes01:46
ShadowWRKhehehe01:46
johnnybezakShadowWRK: yep01:46
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ShadowWRKwhat a joke ;)01:46
thoreauputicShadowWRK: a lot of us come from debian backgrounds and all of us have tremendous respect for debian01:47
raphinkShadowWRK: they had to change their names, after being sued by MS01:47
brennerjazwec: not sure of that either.  but is it happening with all apps?01:47
ShadowWRKraphink - i know, i remember when they changed their name01:47
funkyHatI use both debian and ubuntu. IMO they are better at different things01:47
ShadowWRKthoreauputic;  i have a lot of respect for debian, just happen to really like ubuntu :)01:47
raphinkShadowWRK: a big part of our work in universe is to merge Debian packages in Ubuntu and help merge Ubuntu packages in Debian.01:47
thoreauputicShadowWRK: right, like all of us here :)01:47
ShadowWRKcool01:47
Jaymacanyone tried suns looking glass 3d?01:47
Jaymacit's interesting01:47
maskdI used debian as my first linux os, i liked it and got it to work, but couldnt figure out how to get mp3's to work, so i went back to windows01:47
raphinkShadowWRK: we want to improve the whole thing, while keeping as cloes to Debian as possible.01:48
ShadowWRKnice01:48
funkyHatAnd I like ubuntu's sudo/root password setup so I make my debian systems use it too ;)01:48
raphinkJaymac: looking glass sux01:48
ShadowWRKmy first *nix was slackware on a 48601:48
Jaymaci didn't say it was good.. i said it was interesting01:48
jazwecbrenner no with all..k3b is working..but for example bittornado, vlc, audacity01:48
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Jaymacperhaps we'll see a few ideas incorporated into either KDE or Gnome sometime01:48
Jaymacalthough KDE would be more likely01:48
SeveasCan we please stop the offtopic talk and go back to UBuntu support, kthxbye01:48
raphinkJaymac: sure, and there are other 3D desktops projects that are interesting.01:48
funkyHatraphink, Jaymac, It's a very very good idea, and looks nice, it's just a shame about the language it's written in01:48
brennerjazwec: hmm, try running them in a terminal.  you might get some errors01:49
olicatwhats the quickest way of copying files over a local wireless network?01:49
maskdAnybody used SphereXP, lol.01:49
Seveasolicat, scp01:49
raphinkolicat: scp01:49
olicatcheers01:49
raphinkusing ssh01:49
ShadowWRKwhich is the default windowing environment that ubuntu uses? kde or gnome?01:49
thoreauputicolicat: scp probably01:49
maskdgnome01:49
SeveasShadowWRK, gnome01:49
Morrowynhow do i turn off the pulsating thing in my application bar in gnome, xmms keep pulsating , which is annoying01:49
Jaymacgnome01:49
maskdkubuntu is kde01:49
Jaymackubuntu is kde01:49
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raphinkShadowWRK: gnome for ubuntu, kde for kubuntu, xfce for xubuntu01:49
Jaymacbah  beaten to it twice :)01:49
ShadowWRKahhh01:49
SeveasKubuntu is the KDE based deivative, Xubuntu XFCE01:49
ShadowWRKi prefer gnome01:49
maskdJaymac: :)01:49
ShadowWRKgotcha01:49
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ordicassehi01:49
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ShadowWRKi was wondering what kubuntu was01:49
Seveashi ordicasse01:50
raphinkhi ordicasse01:50
Jaymacdidnt the K give it away? ;)01:50
Morrowyn:)01:50
robotgeekMorrowyn: hmm, one sec.01:50
ShadowWRKheh, i guess it went over my head01:50
ShadowWRK<= has a fever01:50
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maskdSeriously, i don't know how I lived without workspaces01:50
ROBOdthanks guys01:50
ROBOdgotta go01:50
raphinkShadowWRK: anyway, ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu are not different system, they only diff by a few packages and can be turned to one another.01:50
ROBOdbye01:50
maskdcya ROBOd01:51
ShadowSicki understand01:51
thoreauputicShadowSick: some wit suggested we should have a fluxbox ubuntu called "flubuntu" ;-)01:51
ShadowSickhehehehe01:51
Morrowynrobotgeek ok :)01:51
raphinkthoreauputic: we'd need an enlightenment one, too :)01:51
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robotgeekMorrowyn: i know how to do this, it's just been a long while :)01:51
Seveasraphink, Ebuntu01:51
raphinkSeveas: :)01:51
maskdI don't like the look of enlightenment01:51
ordicassemy ubuntu is broken and I don't understand why... When I boot with the LiveCD to open Gparted, it says that my /dev/hda3 (the main linux partition) has an unknown filesystem, what can I do to repair it ?01:51
thoreauputicrapha: Ebuntu ?01:51
brennermaskd: one of my favourite irks as well!01:51
maskdit's just too pretty01:51
raphinkthere's Gnubuntu going on, too01:51
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mendyI need some help with install.01:52
Morrowynok, take your time, at least i know i can remove it :)01:52
Seveasordicasse, sudo fdisk -l01:52
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Seveasordicasse, output on the pastebin01:52
redguy|workgnubuntu? with gnustep?01:52
aLeSDI  hate you01:52
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thoreauputicredguy|work: no it's the pure RMS version :)01:52
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raphinkredguy|work: gnubuntu is a project with the fsf01:52
maskdi wonder who he was hating there01:52
mcscruffi have a folder thats set to root privilidges, how can i make it so it isnt.. and also all subfolders and files01:52
raphinkthoreauputic: ;)01:52
munzirHI sirs, glxgears in ubuntu doesn't print the fps, what's the problem please?01:52
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Seveasmcscruff, sudo chown -R01:52
raphinkthoreauputic: pure RMS version means Ubuntu GNU/Hurd of course ;)01:53
Morrowynhow come firefox 1.5 isnt in the package db ?01:53
Seveasmcscruff, man chown01:53
redguy|workah!01:53
robotgeekMorrowyn: it's in dapper01:53
funkyHatthoreauputic, with herd? ;)01:53
mendyI'm trying to install ubuntu and it's getting stuck01:53
brennermunzir: you have to use the option: man glxgears01:53
SeveasMorrowyn, because it breaks too much01:53
Morrowynmunzir, run it from a terminal01:53
funkyHat*hurd haha01:53
squid0mendy, what's up?01:53
mendyIt's getting stuck by AGP01:53
munzirBrendon, there is no man glxgears here01:53
thoreauputicrapha: heheh - right - we might be waiting a while for taht one ;)01:53
Morrowynok, so when thats fixed, ill see it appearing in ubuntu right?01:53
mendyI can't get passed it01:53
munzirMorrowyn, this is what I am doing but still nothing01:53
Morrowynhmmm01:53
raphinkthoreauputic: heh, I had the Hurd/Mach work on Debian GNU/Hurd last year01:53
brenneryeah, just noticed sorry01:53
munzirMorrowyn, do it work for you?01:54
thoreauputicraphink: cool - was it stable and good?01:54
raphinkthoreauputic: I'd even say it was easier for me to install Debian GNU/Hurd than Gentoo :p01:54
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raphinkthoreauputic: it was unusable, but it worked :p01:54
Seveasraphink, rofl :)01:54
ordicasseSeveas: sudo fdisk -l => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/632401:54
raphinkloooool01:54
thoreauputicrapha: that isn't saying much is it?01:54
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iivehello, do you know how to upgrade packages that are "The following packages have been kept back:" even when i make apt-get dist-upgrade?01:54
Morrowynnope, doesnt feed me fps, but mine runs awefully slow :-/01:54
brenneri seriously remember there being an option though01:54
raphinkthoreauputic: Debian GNU/Hurd/Mach was a pain in the neck for speed01:54
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raphinkthoreauputic: hopefully, GNU/Hurd/L4 is going to be far faster01:55
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visik7anybody using liferea ?01:55
mendyI'm having an install problem can someone help?01:55
thoreauputicrapha: ah - interesting01:55
wizardjamesok..  question:  made a new ext partion, inside of it when i mount it . it has a lost+found   ..thing   what is this?01:55
thoreauputicvisik7: yes01:55
mcscruffseveas: i have never used the command :( i the folder is called "Music" how do i fully write it?01:55
visik7thoreauputic: have you the endgadget rss ???01:55
Seveasordicasse: Partition table entries are not in disk order, i guess gparted borks on that01:55
mwemendy: maybe if you tell us what the problem is01:55
robotgeekvisik7: yes01:55
visik7robotgeek: which question ?01:55
thoreauputicvisik7: I don't even know what that is :)01:55
Seveasmcscruff, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER mcscruff01:55
robotgeekvisik7: i use liferea01:55
visik7robotgeek: have you the engadget rss ?01:56
mendyI installed and when coming up for the first time it's getting stuck on the hotswap part01:56
mcscruffthankyou01:56
ordicasseSeveas: when I switch on my computer it tries to load GRUB and then says "error 24"01:56
mevvistai sutvarkem ta kaitima01:56
mevvisnebekaista01:56
mendySo I booted in safe mode and I see it's getting stuck by agpgart01:56
robotgeekvisik7: no, i'm not on my usual ubuntu too. so i odon't have access to liferea, sorry01:56
Seveasmevvis, english please01:56
mendyAGP aperture01:56
mevvisbeda buvo 0.13A01:56
visik7robotgeek: :/01:56
wzahow link php5 to apache2? gettin' 'save as' prompt when trying to load php files atm01:56
mendyI can't bring up ubuntu01:56
raphathoreauputic: Got it working ... apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 :-)01:56
raphaThanks!01:56
raphaBye!01:56
mendyBut the install went clean01:56
mevviso01:56
mevvissorry01:56
mendySo what do I do now?01:56
mendyIt's a p4 computer01:57
mendya new one with a 3g processor01:57
robotgeekMorrowyn: SystemTools -> Configuration Editor01:57
ordicasseSeveas: I can mount /dev/hda1 which is windows, but I can't mount the two other Linux partitions /dev/hda3 and /dev/hda5, /dev/hda6 is the swap01:57
mendyWhat is causing the hangup? I have know idea01:57
robotgeekMorrowyn: /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources -> Set True01:57
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Morrowynok01:58
wizardjamesanyone,  i made a new ext3 partion, mounted it. and theres this lost+found   file init..  what is this?01:58
maskdwizardjames: you can delete it01:59
munzirbrenner, Morrowyn: ok I found it, glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark01:59
wizardjameso ok, so its just junk.. kk01:59
Morrowynthanks robotgeek , it was kinda getting on my nerves :)01:59
Morrowynlol :) munzir01:59
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brennermunzir: lol, good point.  but i'm sure i remember someone asked before02:00
brennermaybe it was with fglrxgears though02:00
robotgeekMorrowyn: i kinda like that feature for gaim an stuff02:00
Morrowyn:)02:01
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ordicasseSeveas: do you have a solution ?02:02
robzonanyone using dapper drake yet? :)02:02
robotgeekrobzon: yes02:02
maskdrobzon: i was but i screwed it, so im back to good old breezy02:02
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traeI've got a "Blank DVD+R Disc" icon on my desktop that won't go away even after the disc has been ejected.  (and another different disc was inserted)02:02
maskdonly thing im missing is vlc :(02:02
robzonrobotgeek: is it stable enough to use it as a chat/email machine?02:03
jvNEThello guys, what the terminal command to run Applications Menu Editor? it wont show up even I rebooted several times02:03
ompaulrobzon, it is in development this means that if you choose to use it it may break tomorrow or the next day and you have to wait for others to fix it - breezy is stable02:03
robzonvlc? is it used as a default player in dapper drake?02:03
maskdnah02:03
maskdtotem is02:03
brennerjvNET: smeg02:03
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maskdbut i like vlc02:03
robotgeekrobzon: sure :)02:03
jvNETthanks02:04
robzonmaskd: so why don't you use it on breezy? ;)02:04
robotgeekrobzon: though, you must not have dependency on X :)02:04
maskdrobzon: cuz the version for breezy isnt very good, it was updated on dapper02:04
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hypn0is there a how to for compiling stuff02:05
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robzonrobotgeek: well.. i can always use irssi when X goes crazy ;) or ask in this channel if everything's ok with current snapshot, before I decide to upgrade packages ;)02:05
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robotgeekmaskd: if you want the gtk version, get it from backports02:05
pawelhypn0: what do you mean?02:05
robotgeekrobzon: yes, irssi is what i use all the time :)02:05
ompaul!compiling02:06
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware02:06
hypn0i get missing stdio.h error pawel02:06
pawelthen that link should do.02:06
hypn0k, thx02:07
Morrowynwhats a good gnome cd burn program?02:07
Morrowynor should i go with k3b ...?02:07
ompaulMorrowyn, nautilyus works for me02:08
onispawnMorrowyn: I like k3b, but a lot of people like gnomebaker02:08
robzonah there's that annoying stroke width bug in inkscape 0.42... dapper drake has 0.43 already, maybe it's fixed there.. hmm02:08
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ompaulMorrowyn, nautilus even02:08
Morrowynok02:08
mendyWhat's the hotplug subsystem?02:08
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thoreauputicMorrowyn: graveman is good too02:08
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ompaulmendy, how the machine handles devices02:08
mendyMy computer is not coming up it's getting stuck on "Starting hotplug subsystem"02:08
Morrowynwell i need to be able to burn iso's and drag and drop my files to make data cd's and occasionally make an audio cd from mp3's02:08
maskdoh i do like synaptic, so easy to use02:09
Mabus06how do you make a user sudo enabled?02:09
torbjorna recent kernel upgrade, also involginv gcc 3.3 -> 4.0 upgrade causes the computer no longer to boot, is that a known or expected problem?02:09
ompaulmendy, did it ever work?02:09
maskdMabus06: just type sudo02:09
mendyIt's the first time I'm bringing it up after an install02:09
maskdthen the command02:09
mendyNo,.02:09
thoreauputicMerreither k3b or gnomabaker02:09
verizis it possible to allow all ports with router and then administer them with iptables?02:09
Mabus06maskd... to make an account have sudo privileges02:09
mendyI just finished installing02:09
thoreauputicbah bad tab complete sorry02:09
mendyIt's stuck on the hotplug subsystem02:09
mendyany ideas?02:10
Mabus06do you have usb devices or a nvidia card in?02:10
wizardjameshow do i copy all files from one area to another?02:10
maskdMabus06: I think it's in System > Administraion > Users and Groups02:11
maskdselect properties on the user and go to the user priveledges tab02:11
thoreauputicwizardjames: in GUI or CLI ?02:11
mendyompaul, do you know anything about installs?02:11
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maskdand check executing system administration tasks02:11
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wizardjames..um..    with a line?02:11
Junior|Hello. Is it possible to build an install cd with support for ITE821x cards on it?02:12
maskdwizardjames: cp -R /folder/ /folder/02:12
torbjornshould wrong gcc version prevent a system from booting?02:12
ompaulmendy, okay it looks like a bad install, I suggest the following, reinstall this time when the initial boot stops type "server" on the prompt line on the install cd (about 10 or so seconds in) after that base install at the command line type >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<< and asking me only delayed the answer - you should always give people a chance as you do not know how complex the answer is or what they have to research :-)02:12
mwetorbjorn: no02:12
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Morrowynill try both nautilus and gnomebaker, see what i like02:12
wizardjamesthanks..will try02:12
torbjornmwe: thanks02:13
Morrowyni dont wanna have kdelibs on my system, until i really really really need them02:13
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flameshello, how can i add ~/bin to my default paths?02:13
mendyThanks ompaul02:13
thoreauputicMorrowyn: then install gnomebaker02:13
ompaulmendy, :-)02:13
Morrowyni just did :)02:13
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Trymhi02:13
Viper12welp, I've been lurkin.........but just had to pop in to say one thing.  an x86 install of breezy + Automatix just saved me over 4 hours fartin' around.  MAN what a cool app for ubuntu! :)02:13
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ompaul!automatix02:14
ubotuautomatix is, like, totally, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!02:14
antixcan I get out of gdm and get to text-mode? my login does not work. it stops on "window manager"... ctrl-alt-backspace only gets me back to gdm...02:14
Viper12lmao the ubotu can kissa mah butt. lmao02:14
thoreauputicMorrowyn: I quite like graveman too - but not for music CDs02:14
mwe!automatix02:14
Morrowynok\02:14
ompaulViper12, there is a thing called easyubuntu which is better for that02:14
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Morrowynwell 90% of my time its burning iso's02:14
Trymwho does know about the pppoeconf bug?02:14
Morrowynjust want to be able to drag and drop the iso and burn it02:14
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Viper12i've used easyubuntu on a laptop.  tried them both as a comparison.  guess which one I liked better? -grin.02:15
brennerare kubuntu and ubuntu repos the same?02:15
thoreauputicMorrowyn: which nautilus does fine02:15
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mjrbrenner, yes02:15
Morrowynok :)02:15
Viper12lol02:15
thoreauputicMorrowyn: in fact for ISOs just right click02:15
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rohanhi all02:15
thoreauputicMorrowyn: there's a burn option in the context menu02:16
antixwhat do I need to install to get a functioning gnome environment?02:16
Junior|antix: ctrl-alt-f102:16
Morrowyn:)02:16
mjrantix, ubuntu-desktop02:16
Morrowynthats nice02:16
rohanrar on ubuntu can handle password protected rar archives ?02:16
antixJunior|, yes that normally works but does nothing on that machine.. :(02:16
wizardjamesmaskd,  how long does this take..  its around 5-7 gigs of data..     its been going for around 40 secs..    this normal?02:16
Morrowyni really like ubuntu so far02:16
Viper12I'm curious though, why is the bot screaming about auto?  It seems well positioned in the forums as a good solution....with pages of compliments.02:16
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Morrowynespecially the gnome, it reminds me of osx02:16
mwewizardjames: dma is enabled?02:16
Morrowynin some ways, not all02:16
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thoreauputicMorrowyn: or you can type burn:/// in the location field in nautilus and drag stuff there02:17
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Morrowynwow02:17
wizardjamesum, yea last time i checked02:17
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Trymbye02:17
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ompaulTrym, check launchpad.net for reports02:17
ordicassemy system doesn't boot anymore, and I can't mount my two linux partition from the live cd (only the windows partition is mountable), is there an application that can rescue my datas from the two linux partition ?02:17
rohan!rar02:17
ubotuI guess rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a614002:17
Morrowynnow i just need to install the eclipse and neverwinternights and im all fine and dandy :)02:17
thoreauputicMorrowyn: or use the "Go" menu :)02:17
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Morrowynlol02:18
mwewizardjames: are you copying to a different drive?02:18
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Viper12mwe, it depends......I've YET to see dma turned on for cdrom/dvd/burners on the installs I've done as a default.  I've always had to manually turn it on.02:18
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wizardjamesits same drive to same drive..but..  its nfts to ext302:18
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mweViper12: yeah02:18
ompaulViper12, when things break where do people turn to? why do you think it ended up like that?02:18
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Viper12ompaul?02:19
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mweViper12: well it was on for my cd-rw drive as well as the hdd02:19
Junior|does anyone have an ITE8211/8212 driver built for 2.6.12 ?02:19
Drakenguys, can i format the drive for linux IN the install cd setup02:19
ompaulViper12, you asked about the bot shouting02:19
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Drakenor is it done else were ?02:19
Morrowyni read xorg6.9 and 7.0 were released, any idea when its in the ubuntu stuff?02:19
zwnjanyone knows if vmware package exist in .tar.* or .deb?02:19
Junior|i don't have a linux up and running, since the installer doesn't find my drives, so i can't compile it myself02:19
visik7Draken: yes u can02:19
Drakenk ta02:19
Junior|zwnj: vmware is commercial02:19
ompaulDraken, you can, it would be easier with a live CD02:20
Viper12ompaul, ahhh..........well it does have its caveats and 'don't do's in the forum posting right off the bat.  I guess.........let the user beware...but for a clean install to x86 desktop, that was an amazingly good experience for me.l02:20
mwewizardjames: it's still copying? well you know you can always check if dma is on with hdparm /dev/hda? asuming hda is your hdd02:20
bonezhey ... just a simple ownership question quys... if a users belongs to a group (not primary) he should be able to Delete etc a file that is owned by said group (with premission set to 775) right??02:20
Viper12of course I've installed ubuntu about 50 times the old fashioned way, so I wouldn't be here whining if it didn't work...lol.  I'd just go fix it.02:20
zwnjJunior|: i know, but i got the RPM version and Alien did wrong on converting to DEB.  I used to have a .tar.gz on vmware 4.502:20
wizardjamessdb is..but i will check02:20
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ompaulViper12, and how often do people just jump in with both feet to find that the water actually is over their head?02:21
thoreauputicbonez: I would think so yes02:21
bonezme to ;) .. just dont work it seems02:21
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boneznothing to do with the group not being the users primary group ?02:22
ys76I am looking for a reliable backup-soluton for about 60 servers (sorry, bust mostly win) which is really easy to use (due to my win-admins) - Anybody?02:22
mwezwnj: why did you get the rpm version instead of the tgz one?02:22
Viper12best way to learn something, if you ask me, but I hear where you're coming from...but for those who 'know' how to do it, but "sigh" at the length of time to get it all done, that was a breath o' fresh air.l02:22
Morrowynwhats a good anti virus for ubuntu that checks for  w32 virusses also?02:22
wizardjameswhat do i look for when looking if it has dma?  ..02:22
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zwnjmwe: yes02:22
zwnjbtw, just found .tar format02:22
zwnjthanks all :)02:22
thoreauputicbonez: if the user belongs to the group with 7 permissions he should be free t read /write/execute02:22
mwewizardjames: using_dma = 1 (on)02:22
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wizardjamesnothin with that there02:23
ompaulbonez, should not impact it02:23
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bonezhmm well then what the hell is wrong here..02:23
ompaulbonez, ls -l and check that group that is the group of the file02:23
bonezi did " chgrp -R www-data /folder " && chmod -R 775 /folder02:24
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bonezthen did " usermod -G www-data user02:24
bonez"02:24
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Viper12not sure what ya need an a/v for ubuntu for Morrowyn, but I've heard clam is decent.  (if you're using a mail server TO win clients I could see a use.)02:25
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QQ_ghosthow do i set up a DHCP/domain server with ubuntu02:25
ompaulbonez, chown -R www-data:www-data folder should have done the job02:25
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ompaulbonez, as long as you are using sudo02:26
bonez(i;m using sudo -s -H .. :) )02:26
bonezhmm02:26
mwewizardjames: hmm the man page says it's supposed to be an ATA/IDE drive. yours is scsi, right?02:26
wizardjamessata02:27
mendyompaul I need your help again02:27
Morrowynwell i dont to have linux worms on my system, even if i run as non root, it can still affect my data02:27
bonezQQ_ghost, dhcp --> http://ubuntuguide.org/02:27
wizardjamessda and sdb are my 2 drives02:27
Morrowyndont to have/dont want to have02:27
mendyI did what you said, and I'm getting a kernel panic at startup02:27
maskdwizardjames: scsi and sata are treated as the same by ubuntu i think02:27
mwewizardjames: should work then. I don't know why it doesn't mention dma02:27
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raphaBack02:28
raphaNow I got a Ubuntu PPC problem02:28
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ordicassemy system doesn't boot anymore, and I can't mount my two linux partition from the live cd (only the windows partition is mountable), can someone help me ?02:28
wizardjameswhen i try "sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sdb"02:28
wizardjamesi get HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device02:28
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raphaI moved a hard drive with installed Ubuntu from one Mac to another ... does anybody know how to make it boot?02:28
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mweordicasse: did you run fsck on them?02:28
ompaulmendy, ask the channel if I can help then I will but what if (A) I am off having coffee or (B) don't know the answer I might get embarrassed02:29
thoreauputicwizardjames: I think hdparm only works for IDE drives02:29
maskdwizardjames: does sudo hdparm -d1 -X /dev/sdb work?02:29
ordicassemwe: no, i didn't02:29
ompaulmendy, as for your question then something else is wrong02:29
mweordicasse: I would02:29
wizardjamesHDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setxfermode) failed: Input/output error02:30
ompaulmendy, you booted from the CD? and it paused it asks you do you want to type server you choose server and it fails is that correct?02:30
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maskdwizardjames: i can hdparm on my sata drive without any flags02:30
bonezompaul, hmm wtf .. uhm i think i miss typed the group ... it works now .. thanks man ..02:30
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maskdwizardjames: but with the -d1 flag i get the same error as you02:30
mendyYes, the install went fine, ompaul, and on the startup I got the panic ,02:30
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ompaulbolrod, np02:30
wizardjamesok02:30
Morrowynhow come mplayer isnt in the ubuntu rep anymore?02:31
ompaulbonez, np even02:31
wizardjamessame02:31
ompaulbolrod, wrong spy02:31
thoreauputicMorrowyn: it is02:31
Ubunti_Kiwhere does sources.list locate?02:31
Morrowynhmmmm02:31
thoreauputic!info mplayer-58602:31
raphaAnybody proficient with yaboot?02:31
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB02:31
xbrucex!info x26402:31
maskdMorrowyn: are you checking universe repos?02:31
mendyI tried booting in safe mode, and I see it got stuck by the AGP video card, i think02:31
Morrowynlemme see which sources i grab02:31
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thoreauputicmplayer is multiverse as you see above02:31
Viper12Morrowyn,  you really should give this a read.....its an eye opener from someone who ISNT a spokesman for an A/Virus company.   http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus02:31
ordicassemwe: it doesn't work for "sudo fsck /dev/hda3" (my main linux partition), it says "fsck.ext3: Filesystem revision too high...02:31
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mweordicasse: that sounds weird02:32
mweordicasse: from knoppix you say?02:32
ompaulmendy, it installed, you took out the CD and it is panicing? what is the panic message (roughly) if you want to type a lot of stuff use paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give the url when you are finished02:32
ordicassemwe: the superblock looks to be corrupted02:32
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ordicassemwe: no, from ubuntu live cd02:32
mweordicasse: ok02:32
wizardjamesmwe,  i think i found the prob..    how do i mount a ext3 partion with full control..02:33
Morrowynbreezy , breezy-updates, breezy-security main universe restricted02:33
ordicassemwe: do you think i should better try from knoppix ?02:33
ompaulmendy, is this a PC or a mac?02:33
raphaWas it the INSTALL or the LIVE cd that had a "repair" option?02:33
Ubunti_Kii wanna update my sources.list, where does it locate?02:33
mweordicasse: If fsck can't run on it, I don't know any other 'fix' than to reformat the partitions02:33
thoreauputicMorrowyn: you need multiverse02:33
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ompaulUbunti_Ki, only use sources for ubuntu /etc/apt/sources.list random debian sources will break your box02:34
thoreauputicUbunti_Ki: /etc/apt/sources.list02:34
ordicassemwe: but i have very important datas on my partition...02:34
mweordicasse: but if they're hosed, you can't save the data02:34
mendyIt's after the cd is taken out, and it wants to finish the installation, it starts running all sorts of things past me on the screen until it comes to a halt. Its a PC. The error message is like I said Kernel panic - not syncing: Attemting to kill init! Before it is a few lines dealing with apic_timer, force_sig_info etcc...02:35
ltibor65I want to install Zapping deb package. But it requires Python2.3 or later. So I installed Python 2.4.2 from the source. It is good. But installing Zapping the error message is the same. Why? What to do?02:35
bonezompaul, hmm i spoke to soon :(02:35
ordicassemwe: there's no rescue application ?02:35
mweordicasse: anyway maybe someone else has a suggestion, though I doubt anything will work when fsck doesn't even run on the partitions02:35
ompaulmwe, ordicasse always a good thing in cases like that to use a live cd02:35
maskdwizardjames: you can edit fstab then go sudo mount 0a02:35
maskd-a02:35
mweompaul: he is02:35
afiefMy windows partition, /dev/hda1 always get's mounted only with root permission, how can i change that default?02:35
ordicasseompaul: yes i'm using a live cd right now, but it doesn't really help actually02:36
Viper12mendy, have you tried to install with the no apic option that is given in the boot options of the installer?02:36
maskdafief: chown -R $user:$user /media/hda102:36
maskdor whatever you mount it to02:36
MorrowynViper12, thats all fine and i understand, however i dont want a virus messing up my data, i dont care if a virus can or cannot affect other ppl's data02:36
thoreauputicmaskd: no, it's an fstab issue02:36
afiefmaskd: will that change the way it gets mounted everytime or just this time?02:36
ompaulordicasse ooch, fsck will not work - that is bad, what does a terminal fdisk -l say pop the output into a paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:37
Viper12and the POINT of th article points out the absolutely silly user that lets it happen. shrugs.02:37
thoreauputicafief: it won't - you need to edit /etc/fstab02:37
maskdthoreauputic: oh ok02:37
mendyI didn't go into the boot options, should I , and could you explain how?02:37
Morrowynthoreauputic, do i just append multiverse on the breezy universe line or do i replace universe with multiverse?02:37
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maskdhow come thoreauputic? im a noob and id like to learn as much as possible02:37
afiefthoreauoutic: but WHAT do i need to edit there?:)02:37
unimatrix9hi all02:37
thoreauputicafief: I use /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    noauto,ro,users,umask=022       0 002:37
unimatrix9how is it going?02:37
unimatrix9all well?02:37
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Viper12mendy, when you first get to the boot screen of the installer, there are choices in the f1-f8 keys.  these show options for installing ubuntu...and one of those involves booting with a noapic option for some machines.02:37
ordicasseompaul: fdisk -l => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/632402:38
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thoreauputicafief: if you want mount on boot use auto instead of noauto02:38
flamesmy ~/.bash_profile contains this line: PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}" and ~/bin is exists, but echo $PATH (/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games) not include ~/bin, what's wrong?02:38
Viper12sorry I can't remember the exact command off the top, but there is a command line argument for fussy apic boxes.02:38
thoreauputicMorrowyn: append02:38
mwemaskd: you're can't chmod on a mounted ntfs partition. you need to use mount options instead02:38
maskdmwe: thanks i didnt know that02:38
melodiehello ordicasse, did you succeed saving your datas ?02:39
unimatrix9is it not better ( for newbee ) to mount windows partition using : mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows?02:39
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Morrowynok :)02:39
mendyOk viper12, thank you I will follow your instructions, Can you tell me more about the noapic and how it affects my boot?02:39
ompaulmendy, now you are managing to confuse me, lets be very clear here, as the install CD boots it offers a prompt where most people press enter, at this time you should enter the word "server" that is all I requested, if you have done this it will attempt an install, at the end of that install your machine should reboot. at that time you log in and run the command I gave02:39
ordicassemelodie: no, unfortunately, not yet02:39
unimatrix9or does it need to be vfat, or ntfs?02:39
something_elsehaving a problem, since upgrading to 2.6.14 pmount doesnt seem to work02:39
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thoreauputicunimatrix9: it's better to have the right fstab entry :)02:39
something_elseIve tried a later version of pmount Im still having the same problem02:39
wizardjamesis this a ok line to put in fstab for my partion?  "/dev/sda3       /home/trevor/Filesofall    ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1"02:40
unimatrix9ok02:40
unimatrix9so the "new"user needs to know what it is...02:40
ordicassemelodie: i'm still looking for a solution but i don't know any application that could rescue my datas02:40
silverpowerCan I force the installer to use mac-fdisk instead of the 'guided partitioning' tool? The 'guided partitoning' tries to use the whole disk, which is not what I want.02:40
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melodieordicasse: as you can't get a cfdisk to work, you could do a 'df -h' to have a reminder of the space used by each partition02:40
something_elsein that when I actually add a usb device or insert a cdrom, nautilus doesnt allow me to double click and view the contents02:40
ompaulordicasse, at a teminal prompt if you type >> sudo fsck -y /dev/hda3  << what do you get back?02:40
thoreauputicunimatrix9: then you don't have to keep specifying mount options02:40
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unimatrix9ah , ok02:40
Viper12missed the part where ompaul was assisting mendy.............steps aside....but the apic options are for certain boxes with flaky m.board/bios issues.02:40
melodiewhat do you think about that ?02:40
mwethoreauputic: why are you using umask 022? the 0 for owner is in effect 2 when it's mounted ro. 222 or 0222 would make more sense to me02:41
afiefthoreauputic: i have no /etc/fstab:S02:41
unimatrix9thoreauputic, dont i know you from knoppix?02:41
ompaulViper12, run with it I have to prepare for work could do with a few mins :)02:41
thoreauputicmwe: 0222 would be fine too02:41
maskdwizardjames: i may be wrong but on my fstab which was done by default ubuntu install, all of the ext3 partitions that arent being boot off look like "/dev/sda5       /media/sda6     ext3    defaults        0       2"02:41
mendyompaul, I did exactly like you said (i think) but I never got the command line. thanks viper1202:41
thoreauputicafief: of course you do02:41
wizardjamesok thanks02:42
raphinkafief: that can be a pb huhu02:42
ordicasseompaul: sudo fsck -y /dev/hda3 => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/632602:42
something_elsehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/632702:42
thoreauputicafief: otherwise your machine wouldn't be running :)02:42
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Viper12np mendy.  and ompaul, if mendy is having apic errors and such, the no-apic options as a choice may be the solution to the issue.l02:42
mendyBecause the system never came up. ompaul, sorry for breaking the lines :::02:42
something_elsepeople, that is the error shown02:42
melodieordicasse: what I think about to rescue your datas would be to format just enough space, and do a direct copy from within the Ubuntu installer as I told you yesterday on the fr chan02:42
raphinkafief: how do you know you've got no /etc/fstab ?02:42
thoreauputicafief:  sudo gedit /etc/fstab   to edit it02:43
melodiethat's why a 'df -k' or 'df -h' would be useful to get02:43
afiefentered /etc in nautilus as root, and couldn't find it:S02:43
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BrianB04Morning all02:43
mweordicasse: what does fdisk -y do? and why ary you running fdisk on a partition instead of a disk?02:43
thoreauputicafief: just try typing what I said above02:43
afiefoh... it's a file? damn! was looking for a folder(old windows habbits: no extension=folder)02:43
something_elsehello Brian02:43
maskdtry in terminal, sudo gedit /etc/fstab02:43
Viper12lol02:44
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beepDoes any one knows for sound juicer?02:44
BrianB04What's up in here this morning?02:44
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something_elseam i here?02:44
thoreauputicafief: heh *nix doesn't play extension games ;)02:44
something_elseas in visible?02:44
maskdsomething_else: yes02:44
markivehi all02:44
something_elseoh thank you, maskd02:44
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thoreauputicafief: or rather , doesn't need to02:44
afiefyes, but could you tell me how it knows the difference between files?02:45
ordicassemwe: fdisk -y does nothing02:45
ompaulmwe, cos I asked him to read that again - fsck -y not fdisk which was the previous line and it is my opinion from the conversation thus far that the partition is not mounted that is why he is here02:45
Viper12lol thoreau....its a hard hurtle to realize that to *nix........there ain't no such thing as folders.....just files that point to files.   gotta luv it.02:45
unimatrix9an other question, if i do sudo passwd , and type an new passwd, the defualt issue with ubuntu an root is solved , right?02:45
maskddoes it use metadata like mac os?02:45
thoreauputicafief: try typing   file somefile  to see02:45
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beepcan someone help with cd databases...02:45
mendyviper12, do you mean to write at the boot prompt pci=noacpi?02:45
mendySorry I mean noapic?02:46
markiveneed something like peerguardian for ubuntu02:46
melodieordicasse: please do preceed you commands with 'LANG=C' to get all the results in english  :)02:46
mweordicasse: my eyes are tired. I misread what you typed, sorry02:46
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thoreauputicafief: the "file" command shows you how the system can guess file types02:46
ompaulordicasse, do this: e2fsck  /dev/hda302:46
Viper12mendy, if that's the command given by the boot process, then yes.  I don't remember that exact command, but those commands get typed after the : and then you press enter.02:46
afiefit only tells me the kind of file... not how it guessed:(02:46
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thoreauputicafief: ah yes - true :)02:46
KurtKrautUbuntu releases its own kernel. I've just turned on my ubuntu box and I saw a kernel update. Where is listed the features/bugfixes of the Ubuntu's kernel versions ?02:47
KurtKrautIs there a website for that ?02:47
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melodieompaul : e2fsck and fsck are the same tools  :/02:47
ordicassemelodie: thanks for this command...02:47
Viper12kurt, if you show 'details' below the list, it should give the info as to what the update entails.02:47
Viper12(in package update screen.)02:47
pl_icehey, any packets for gnome to put random wallpapers ?02:47
thoreauputicafief: for example if a file needs to be executable it has the executable bits set02:47
melodieordicasse, welcome  :)02:47
melodie$ LANG=C fsck /dev/hda102:48
melodiefsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)02:48
melodiee2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)02:48
melodie;)02:48
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wizardjameswhats going ON?  blast , this jsut not working..   aw well..  i will format my hdd tommorw and restart.   i know how to get to were i am in in 4 hours time anyways..  blash,  this really bugs me02:48
thoreauputicafief: so it doesn't need ".exe"02:48
ompauldo and h02:48
KurtKrautViper12, let me check on synaptic02:48
ordicasseompaul: e2fsck /dev/hda3 => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/632802:48
afiefthoreauptic: i'm having a good time with Ubuntu on my laptop, but could you tell me how to create an Ad-Hoc wireless?02:48
maskdextensions are a dodgy way of determining file type anyway02:48
ordicasseompaul: it's all in english now02:48
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thoreauputicafief: what i know about wireless fits comfortably on a postage stamp02:49
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unimatrix9afief : go to system / administration /entwork02:50
thoreauputicmaskd: "extensions are a dodgy way of determining file type anyway" <-- indeed, and a security issue in windows02:50
melodieordicasse: have you tried what the last line says in the shell ? do you read the output of console ?02:50
unimatrix9network02:50
KurtKrautViper12, I what more details than that. There is probably a website for that. Do you know where should I find it ?02:50
maskdthoreauputic: although useful at times to manipulate, eg if you want to send an .exe over msn messenger simply rename it .exe.jpg or something02:50
melodieordicasse, "ou might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:02:50
melodie    e2fsck -b 8193 <device>"02:50
unimatrix9in network wttings02:50
afiefunimatrix9: i am there...02:50
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Vezzo--Estou numa rede com Proxy MS e o apt-get soh funciona apos a instalacao e configuracao do ubuntu. Gostaria de mudar a linguagem do sistema para o Portugues Brasil depois dele instalado... alguem sabe o q faco02:50
unimatrix9you will find your wireless card02:50
unimatrix9 i hope..02:50
afiefyes02:50
ordicassemelodie: i tried but the result is the same02:51
thoreauputicmaskd: which is also how people mask viruses in emails02:51
afiefit works with normal networks, but never got it into ad-hocs02:51
maskdhow has drivers for netgear wireless cards been going?02:51
KurtKrautVezzo--, faa perguntas em ingls aqui.02:51
maskdyeah i know thoreauputic02:51
melodieok. what does df -h say ?02:51
maskdunfortunately people are stupid enough to open them =/02:51
unimatrix9afief, hold on my battery just stopped02:51
thoreauputicmaskd: :)02:51
ompaulordicasse, I am reading the man page for that02:52
afiefhmmm... while unimatrix is busy, could someone tell me how to see if my ATI card has hardware acceleration enabled or not?02:52
unimatrix9hmm, maybe i dont understand what you mean by adhoc02:52
ordicasseompaul: thanks02:52
dotchadi was trying to install xchat but an error occoured, anyone knows how to solve it? http://base.google.com/base/items?oid=523487835568166655402:52
unimatrix9glxinfo | grep direct02:52
melodieordicasse, if your datas are really most important, you might go to a specialized store to ask them to attempt to save the datas, and there get a new hdd  I'm afraid02:52
thoreauputicmaskd: one problem is the term "open" - clicking this stuff is actually executing a program - but people don't understand the concept of course02:53
markiveafief , run pengiun racer02:53
melodiehow old is your hard drive ?02:53
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afiefunimatrix9: ad-hoc network: a network where two computers commiunicate without an Access Point or anything, like a Cross Cable for LAN02:53
visik7dotchad: apt-get install xchat doesn't work ?02:53
maskdthoreauputic: yeah i like how with ubuntu it will tell you what it program the files are opening with02:53
unimatrix9ah02:53
Morrowynweee, mplayerplugin made firefox crash :)02:53
visik7afief: put one in master mode and the other in managed02:53
ordicassemelodie: if I can't rescue the datas myself with the linux community help, how could they do it ?02:53
dotchadi need to compile02:53
thoreauputicmaskd: yup02:54
visik7dotchad: why ?02:54
dotchadhttp://www.xchat.org/compiling/02:54
maskdanyway i'm off to bed it's getting late02:54
maskdseeyas later02:54
dotchadi was following these steps02:54
visik7dotchad: why u need to compile ?02:54
afiefvisik7: master mode? managed? I don't know what you mean02:54
dotchadwhat's another way02:54
thoreauputicdotchad: umm - xchat is installed by default - why are you installing it?02:54
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unimatrix9afief, good question, dont know the answer to that one..02:55
dotchadi want to update02:55
thoreauputic:/02:55
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visik7afief: do u need to connect 2 linux pc without an AP ?02:55
onispawnafief: man iwconfig02:55
unimatrix9i will read with you to find out...:P02:55
Wilfwhat is the google ip address?02:55
Wilffor dns errors?02:56
onispawnafief: its something like iwconfig mode <eth1> Ad-Hock02:56
ompaulordicasse,  one last thing >>e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda3<< if that fails change the number to 16384 and if that fails change the number to 3276802:56
Viper12kurtkraut, not sure what you need info wise regarding kernel updates, but for 'released' versions, the only updates would be security patch stuff...anyway you might check the ubuntu-kernel channel and ask there.02:56
visik7Widoff: they have more than 102:56
Wilf!ubotu dns02:56
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Wilf02:56
Wilf!dns02:56
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afiefvisik: a linux and a windows PC. my friend is still using the old system:)02:56
unimatrix9sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows - how do i do i give acces to it for normal user?02:56
melodieordicasse, they could do it with appropriate professional material, when they have it  ;)02:56
afiefonispawn: did that but i can't connect to him that way, or he to me02:56
trappistWilf: it's /msg ubotu dns (or whatever subject)02:56
visik7afief: put your card in master mode it will act ad an AP02:56
Wilfah, ok.02:57
trappistunimatrix9: -o umask=002:57
unimatrix9ok thanxs02:57
melodieordicasse, I'm looking in a thread on a ml about a tool to test the hard drive, I take a look and I come back02:57
afiefiwconfig eth0 mode master ? this way?02:57
melodieI tested mine once with that02:57
onispawnafief: you probably have to assign an ip address with ifconfig. windows automatically assigns an adhoc ip address, but linux doesnt02:57
Morrowynnvm, fixed it :)02:58
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Morrowynthe perms were on -x , chenged it to +x02:58
afiefonisoawn: any ip will work?02:58
onispawnafief: you need to match one to the same mask as his02:59
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onispawnafief: take what ever windows assigns him, and just add 1 to it02:59
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afiefummm... his TCP IP protocol is set to automatic.....  so he doesn't have an ip unless he connects somewhere02:59
ordicasseompaul: e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda3 => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/632903:00
|Lestat|is anyone here fluent in wireless usb adapters?03:00
ordicassemelodie: thanks03:00
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onispawnafief: or you can specify both of your ip addresses03:00
melodieordicasse, put in you console 'man fsck' and read at same time as me  please03:01
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|Lestat|i have my wireless device installed, using ndiswrapper, it's listed in ifconfig, but when i do a  sudo dhclient wlan0 it tried to dhcpdiscover from the wrong address.... i think03:01
ordicassemelodie: ok03:01
melodieI'm discovering interesting things03:01
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afiefonispawn: how do you set IP with iwconfig? I dont see an ip parameter03:01
mojois there a log of this channel I can go look at on line somewhere?03:02
ompaulordicasse, there were two other numbers there for you to try - up arrow and move the cursor to the number and put in 16384 the other number being 32768 it will (A) succeed or (B) fail  if it fails there is nothing more I can add if it succeeds great03:02
dotchadi installed some c compilers trhough Synaptic and now i got a new error03:02
mojoI got an answer earlier that i need to look back up03:02
dotchadchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables03:02
dotchad | See `config.log' for more details.03:02
thoreauputicdotchad:  sudo apt-get install build-essential03:03
melodieordicasse, I also opened 'man e2fsck' additionnally, to check the options (-p option)03:03
dotchadlemme see03:03
ordicasseompaul: you mean sudo e2fsck -b 16384 /dev/hda3 ?03:04
ompaulordicasse, yes03:04
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something_elsedoes combination of nautilus/gvm/pmount and kernel 2.6.14 cause problems for anyone here?03:04
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_Lestat_someone here must know about wireless in ubuntu03:05
_Lestat_pleessee03:05
something_elsewhat about wireless?03:05
AMD_is xchat 2.4.4 the latest version for ubuntu ?03:05
afiefwhat's about it?03:05
_Lestat_i am having problems getting mine to work03:05
something_elsethe only thing I know is that it works03:05
ompaulAMD_, yes03:06
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mwe_Lestat_: pleeeeeease tell us what's wrong03:06
afiefwell, tell us the problem that's the best way to get attention03:06
ordicasseompaul: the result looks to be the same: e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda303:06
_Lestat_i had it working earlier, rebooted and now i cant get it to connect to the router03:06
AMD_ompaul: ok.  Thanks03:06
mwe_Lestat_: more specifically03:06
ompaulordicasse, and the last number?03:06
_Lestat_it shows up in ifconfig03:06
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_Lestat_i dunno more specificaly :P03:06
blekoshello guys03:06
ordicasseompaul: what number ?03:06
something_elseeh?03:06
ompaulordicasse, 3276803:06
blekosmerry Xms btw03:06
something_elsedoes it find your router03:06
something_elseas in is the essid set?03:07
_Lestat_it's pretty much rarin to go when i boot up linux, but i cant get it to ping anything for some reason03:07
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ordicasseompaul: it works03:07
ompaulordicasse, after that if melodie thinks -p is useful and it might be03:07
ompaulordicasse, heh03:07
something_elseyou can search for routers using iwlist ath0 scan03:07
_Lestat_can assign an ip to it with ifconfig, but i cant get it to grab an ip from the dhcp server on my router03:07
ordicasseompaul: Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes03:07
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ompaulordicasse, let it work it will take a little while03:07
_Lestat_any ideas?03:07
tabrezubuntu displays all my partitions mounted in /media on the desktop but i cannot open them03:07
ordicasseompaul: Inode 1262849 is in use, but has dtime set.  Fix<y>?03:07
ompaulordicasse, make a coffee or something :)03:07
ompauly03:07
tabrezi can open them only as root, from console03:07
blekosin the boot screen I see all the versions (+recovery modes) I have installed eg kernel 2.8.10 etc03:08
ompaulordicasse, fix everything03:08
tabrezthen why are they on the desktop if i can't read them from there?03:08
blekoshow can I unistall them and remove them from the boot screen?03:08
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torbjornis it possible to downgrade gcc 4 to gcc 3.3?03:08
something_elsewhat does this mena Dec 29 11:39:53 localhost kernel: [4294699.384000]  device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed03:08
something_elseDec 29 11:39:53 localhost kernel: [4294699.384000]  device-mapper: error adding target to table03:08
something_elseDec 29 11:39:53 localhost kernel: [4294699.386000]  device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed03:08
something_elseDec 29 11:39:53 localhost kernel: [4294699.386000]  device-mapper: error adding target to table03:08
_Lestat_hmmm03:08
funkyHatblekos, find them in synaptic and remove them03:08
ompaulsomething_else, DONT PASTE IN HERE03:08
dotchadnow glib is missing ;o03:08
trappisttorbjorn: it's not necessary.  they can live side by side.03:08
ubuntuhy all how do i stop gnome03:08
tabrezblekos, if you don't want those entries to come at boot time, you can edit and remove those lines from grub configuration file03:08
blekos:) thnx03:08
ubuntu?03:08
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mwesomething_else: don't paste in the channel03:09
papaStrumpfhi, I'm having a problem with CUPS here03:09
torbjorntrappist: ok thanks03:09
blekoshow do I do that?03:09
something_elseoh yeah, sorry03:09
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trappistubuntu: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop03:09
_Lestat_anyone? :P03:09
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eeeeeeeetrappist,03:09
eeeeeeeetnx03:09
ompaulsomething_else, paste.ubuntu-nl.org for that03:09
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eeeeeeeeand how do i start it again?03:09
ordicasseompaul: it asks to fix at every incrementation.... that will take hours, is it normal ?03:09
laforgeanyone who has a idea why the audiostreams seems to be down ?03:09
something_elsehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/633003:09
epshow does one install rar via apt?03:09
Antubisyou men I`m using serial mouse and the Ubuntu linux didn`t find it. How can I fix this problem03:09
something_elsewhat does that mean03:09
trappisteeeeeeee: care to take a guess?03:09
something_elserecently my wiress led has stopped lighting03:10
something_elseand pmount is problematic03:10
ompaulordicasse, when it is badly broken you have a choice take a chance (ctrl+c) and start it again with the letter y beside the b03:10
papaStrumpfwhenever I try to print something it says: Paused: Unable to open USB device "usb://Samsung/ML-1520": No such device03:10
dotchadhow do i install glib properly?03:10
papaStrumpfdon't get it03:10
papaStrumpfit's supposed to be a Linux compatible device03:10
papaStrumpfit worked in Fedora03:11
ompaulordicasse, but it may or may not work for you -  I would actually do ctrl + c03:11
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eeeeeeeetrappist, i gues it is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start03:11
melodieompaul: if ordicasse uses the e2fsck along with the '-p' option, it il correct everything non interactively right ? and he will not have to say 'y' at each attempt ?03:11
fmhi03:11
ompaul!enter03:11
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!03:11
trappisteeeeeeee: yep03:11
something_elseI upgraded to 2.6.14 so I could watch Digital tv03:11
eeeeeeeetnx =)03:11
papaStrumpfcould anybody help me?03:11
ompaulmelodie, and -by will work03:11
fmI just installed a new soundcard : sound blaster audigy SE, the module is correctly loaded, but all the sound I have is an awful bzzzzz noise03:11
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laforgepapa: which printer ?03:12
papaStrumpfSamsung ML-152003:12
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afiefHow can i enable hardware acceleratoin for my ATI X600? i already have the xorg-driver-fglrx03:12
papaStrumpfit uses the same driver as ML-151003:12
trappistfm: you don't like have the speakers plugged into the mic jack or something, do you?03:12
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ordicasseompaul: i did -yb, because -by didn't work03:12
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ompaulordicasse, hehe03:13
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ompaulordicasse, learning fast :)03:13
ordicasseompaul: are you sure it won't delete all my datas ?03:13
melodieompaul : -by ? -b is superblock, in the e2fsck syntax, and the 'y' option is in the preceeding brackets group ? (still looking the syntax in the man)03:13
melodieso ?03:13
afiefHow can i enable hardware acceleratoin for my ATI X600? i already have the xorg-driver-fglrx03:13
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trappistafief: sudo fglrxconfig03:13
ompaulmelodie, he could not find his superblock first time -the others were corrupted if they ever existed03:14
fmtrappist: I don't think so, no. Actually I get some sound, only high frequencies03:14
afieftrappist: how is a human supposed yo know all these commands?03:14
trappistafief: by reading the documentation03:14
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trappistafief: there are several great entries on the wiki for making the most of your ati card03:14
eeeeeeeetrappist, private03:14
Imaginehi03:14
trappisteeeeeeee: no03:14
eeeeeeeepls03:14
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eeeeeeeelook at it03:14
afiefubuntu wikki or normal wiki?03:15
ImagineI have a problem with ubuntu instalation03:15
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee hey can i ask you something?03:15
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee when i try to log in it doesnt start the gnome or what is it. i try to type X or something but it doesnt work. i tryed to edit xorg.conf but that is no problem03:15
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and whe i reboot it says an fail03:15
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee with numeretical generator03:15
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee i think03:15
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee can you help me03:15
eeeeeeee?03:15
Imaginecould somebody help me with it?03:15
trappistafief: https://wiki.ubuntu.com03:15
ompaulordicasse, it may loose a little on you or a lot - but in general I find that it works out okay - in 15 years of sometimes very dodgy disks I only ever fully lost one - in saying that it was a long time ago03:15
ompaul!tell eeeeeeee about enter03:15
unimatrix9if i have : sudo mount -t  ntfs  /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -o umask=000003:15
ompauleeeeeeee, read the message from the bot03:15
unimatrix9is it write able?03:15
afiefis there something like a "Backup" for my system?03:16
ImagineI searched for solutions in several forums didn't find any03:16
eeeeeeeeompaul,03:16
eeeeeeee:)03:16
eeeeeeeesorry03:16
trappistafief: it doesn't back itself up unless you configure it to do so03:16
eeeeeeeebut i am confused03:16
ordicasseompaul: I have msg like this on my screen:  Entry 'alsa-utils' in /usr/share/lintian/overrides (2111911) has deleted/unused inode 2112583.  Clear? yes03:16
eeeeeeeei tryed allmost everything03:16
afiefwell, how can i have it make a backup?03:16
ompauleeeeeeee, you are being asked really nice not to press enter without a full statement or question03:16
melodieompaul: such a long experienced can't be argued  :)03:17
ompaulmelodie, such is life03:17
ordicasseompaul: it's finished now, and it says : /media/hda3: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****03:17
trappistafief: you could write a little script to backup what you want backed up, or you could install backup packages like bacula03:17
eeeeeeeesorry ompaul03:17
unimatrix9sudo mount -t  ntfs  /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -o umask=000003:17
unimatrix9 < is it write enabled?03:17
ompaulordicasse, I would hope so or all that work was for nothing :)03:17
ordicasseompaul: /media/hda3: 245812/2452800 files (1.1% non-contiguous), 2405812/4903841 blocks03:17
eeeeeeeesoo an anyone help me with my erors?03:17
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afieftrappist: my linux experience is limited to using the GUI, some basic terminal stuff, and no scripting at all yet!03:18
sonichi03:18
ompaulordicasse, (A) get a backup solution in place (B) reboot your box now and test it#03:18
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afieftrappist: i meant something like a System Resore point... if i scew up with my graphic driver03:18
trappistafief: then I'm guessing the machine hasn't been up long enough for backups to be a very high priority :)03:18
ordicasseompaul: thanks a lot03:18
melodieordicasse: I believe I am seeing a miracle being happening with you hard drive  ;)03:18
afieftrappist: i meant something like a System Resore point... if i scew up with my graphic driver03:18
eeeeeeeebye as you cant take a time for me03:18
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trappistafief: fglrxconfig will overwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf - feel free to copy that to your home directory before you run it, so you can restore it if you screw it up03:19
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Imagine:|03:19
unimatrix9afief, thats why its alway's nice to have an knoppix , or other linux live cd!03:19
ordicassemelodie, ompaul: i'll be back in about 5 min to tell you about the result...03:19
ompaulI was going to tell eeeeeeee that some of us might take a look when we had a moment but that is a mute point now :)03:19
ompaulor moot even03:19
melodieI'm staying tuned  :))03:19
sophtpawcan someone tell me what the command is for executing?03:19
ompaulmelodie, your not the only one03:19
melodie:)03:19
trappistsophtpaw: ./filename03:19
afiefunimatrix: got 5.10 live CD:) thanks03:19
sophtpawtrappist: thank you03:20
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ompaultrappist, was it not as lewis carroll's  queen of hearts said "off with his head"03:20
laforgepapa: still the same prob ?03:20
trappistompaul: heh03:20
unimatrix9any news on the new free mp3 codec for gstreamer?03:21
afiefWhenever i try to change my wireless mode to master i get an error03:21
unimatrix9will it come to ubuntu?03:21
trappistooh, I have filename completion in irssi.  where'd that come from?03:21
laforgepapaStrumpf: ping03:21
melodieompaul : you can inverse the brackets containing the option letters in that way ? was -by the same as -yb or another option ?03:21
trappist!tell unimatrix9 about mp303:21
s1gnAlok, can someone here convince me that I should use ubuntu instead of gentoo? I am getting really frustrated with dealing with it, is it customizable like gentoo?03:21
laforgeanyone who has a idea why the audiostreams seems to be down ?03:21
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unimatrix9yes tell me :)03:21
Imaginehi03:22
trappists1gnAl: every linux distro is equally customizable.  which is to say infinitely customizable.03:22
y_o_uanyone here had any experience with Broadcom chipsets in wireless PCI cards?03:22
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ompaulmelodie, I have found that something like that is usually caused by power outage or hitting the power switch instead of waiting for the box to shut down03:22
s1gnAlI think I have had it with gentoo, I keep getting broken ebuilds and it is really pissing me off03:22
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trappisty_o_u: yes, but broadcom makes lots of chipsets.03:22
_Lestat_anyone have any idea why i cannot ping outside of my computer with a wireless dongle?? argle03:22
sophtpawsorry, how do i open a tar.gz file?03:22
ompaulmelodie, it appears that -b must be replaced by -yb not -by03:23
unimatrix9do an dmesg, see if the broadcom shows up?...03:23
trappists1gnAl: well ubuntu doesn't want to build everything from scratch, so if things aren't going to work out it'll be less than a week before you know :)03:23
s1gnAlgunzip tar file, tar -xvf to untar it03:23
Malachisophtpaw: tar -zxvf <name of tar file>03:23
ImagineI have a problem with my ubuntu installation03:23
MalachiOr that.03:23
sophtpawMalachi: thank you03:23
holycowhttp://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/052.html  <-- rofl!03:23
holycow-_-03:23
ImagineI need some help03:23
ompaulmelodie, I imagine if you look in the source it checks first for the -y and passes it to all other options so it does not work the other way03:23
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s1gnAltrappist: can I set up my partitions manually when I install it? or does the installer take care of that?03:24
ompaul!ask03:24
ImagineI have searched for the solution in several forums03:24
y_o_utrappist: still trying to get my Belkin 7000 PCI card to work. Read a bunch on the wiki's, just having a tough time getting a link light on03:24
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ompaul!tell Imagine about ask03:24
Malachisophtpaw: Of course, you might have to add sudo to that (sudo tar -zxvf <name of tar file>03:24
trappists1gnAl: it gives you the option of manual or automatic partitioning03:24
ivan2hi!03:24
Imaginebut i didn't find anything03:24
ompaulImagine, please read the bots message03:24
y_o_uBelkin *wireless* PCI card03:24
sophtpawMalachi: no, looks fine03:24
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afiefWhat's the mouseport for a touchpad?:S:S:S03:24
trappistyoungcoder: the one card I have with a broadcom chip (not a belkin) worked out of the box with the madwifi drivers03:24
laforgesomeone who has a url from a 22c3-livestream ?03:25
s1gnAly_o_u: I had trouble with a wireless PCMCIA card on another distro, I ended up using an NDIS wrapper I believe, can't remember for sure, but I believe that was correct and it worked03:25
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melodieompaul : what you say is most interesting. My own machines are protected with a small eletric device, but not from the brutal interruptions03:26
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melodieand all these electronic components, in the hdd as well, don't like that at all03:26
ompaulmelodie, well over the years you get to work no some funny things :)03:26
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ompauls/no/with03:27
trappistmelodie: hard drives and filesystems hate sudden interruptions in power03:27
ubuntuubuntu is kinda cool :)03:27
unimatrix9http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1307803:27
unimatrix9new free mp3 codec03:27
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Malachiubuntu: "kinda"?03:27
trappistI doubt it03:27
unimatrix9would it not be nice for ubuntu?03:27
melodieompaul: I've learned plenty over the years, but start on computers since a little more than one year only03:27
unimatrix9http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1307803:27
melodie:)03:27
y_o_us1gnAl: i have installed the wrapper, and its wierd, when i check to see if the instalation of the driver was a success, it says "installed ndis drivers:  bcmwl5 driver present". apparently it is also supposed to say hardware present as well.03:27
ubuntuMalachi, just had my first minute on the livecd03:27
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melodietrappist: you're right too03:27
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robstahi, is there a channel for launchpad?03:28
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Zambbayes03:28
Malachiubuntu: Ah. Well, it takes a lot to set it up, but once it's set up, it's awesome.03:28
Zambba#launchpad03:28
greenpenguin13its got one person on03:28
greenpenguin13me03:28
Malachiubuntu: Of course, it's the only distro I've used....03:28
trappistMalachi: a lot to set up?!  have you ever seen gentoo?03:28
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ubuntuMalachi, not as much as gentoo i notice :) at least my ethernet card is reckognized!03:28
Imagineok, I'm trying to install ubuntu in my amd athlom xp 2700+,1024mb ram, 120gb hitachi IDE and I always get the same error: after the first installation fase is over, the computer reboots, I choose ubuntu boot in grub, but after a while the boot stalls with the error03:29
melodieZambba, what's the aim of the lounchpad chan ? not to report bugs ?03:29
unimatrix9and what about an fruityloops clone for ubuntu? lmms!03:29
jensphi, what package contains alsaconf? I have alsa-utils and alsa-base installed but the programm doesn't seem to exist03:29
Malachiubuntu: I've never dealt with gentoo...03:29
Malachiubuntu: Heard alot about it though.03:29
Zambbamelodie: I don't know, I just looked is there a #launchpad channel03:29
Imaginesomething like this03:29
Mabus06how do you give sudo privileges to a user?03:29
Zambba:$03:29
trappistjensp: no package contains alsaconf.  lame, isn't it?03:29
Imagineoos03:29
Imagineoops03:29
Imagine* /dev/hde5 not found03:30
unimatrix9http://lmms.sourceforge.net/03:30
Imagine* /bin/sh: can't run tty job control disabled03:30
jensphmmm crap, well thanks trappist03:30
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melodieMabus06 : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryDocumentation03:30
trappistjensp: I think I'm gonna file a bug report on that03:30
ompaulmelodie, do you think that ordicasse forgot us? given he had has a live cd to boot and come here on ?03:30
melodieMabus06, ;)03:30
melodieompaul, don't know  :)03:30
karlanIn available Updates, i get the "Linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 even thou i just installed the 586. Do i have to install the 386 also? if not, how can i remove this from the update? disturbing to have a notice about an update all the time :)03:31
melodiemaybe emotion who knows ?03:31
trappistkarlan: if you uninstall the 386 package it won't try to update03:31
ompaulmelodie, that is stranger than I wanted to think about right now03:31
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unimatrix9ah, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad, would that not be an better answer? Trappist?03:31
y_o_ui am having some trouble installing a Belkin wireless PCI card on kubuntu useing ndiswrapper, anyone had any similar problems?03:32
melodieompaul, what do you mean ?03:32
unimatrix9instead of the 'bot"03:32
trappistunimatrix9: a better answer than what03:32
ompaulmelodie, lets not explore that stream of thinking03:32
trappistunimatrix9: pointing you to excellent documentation is the best possible answer.  spoonfeeding you answers that are not too hard to find on your own... not interested.03:33
melodieompaul, I don't understand a bit what you're talking about :)03:33
unimatrix9hmm, gues you did not send me to the irc bot03:33
unimatrix9sorry03:33
trappistunimatrix9: I had the bot show you the location of the answer03:33
ompaulmelodie, emotion and working/broken drives and my bad mind03:33
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unimatrix9never mind...03:34
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melodieompaul do you know about a software that do nothing, for everybody ?  :)03:34
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ompaulmelodie, irc03:34
it4ngoMelodie, xeyes does nothing03:35
unimatrix9software that do nothing? windows?03:35
ompaulit4ngo, it is a serious mouse following item03:35
unimatrix9:P03:35
melodieit4ngo, sometimes useful to have fun :)03:35
FL|Maartyhi, is here anyone who could help me with keyboard problem during instalation of ububtu 5.10 ?03:35
sophtpawMalachi: i opened the tar.gz but don't know which one to execute. And how ? is it ./filename? that hasn't worked with any of the ones i'v e tried03:35
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Malachisophtpaw: Buh?03:36
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melodieompaul, it4ngo : http://bernardbelanger.com/computing/NaDa/index.php03:36
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Malachisophtpaw: Explain your problem. I didn't get it.03:36
ompaulImagine, did you install the "server" version and then install the desktop?03:36
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trappistsophtpaw: there's probably not much in there to execute.  tarballs traditionally contain source code that must be compiled into executable code.03:36
Imaginehum03:36
Imagineno03:36
MalachiHave you tried ./configure?03:36
ImagineI chose default instalation03:36
unimatrix9well thanx for the help again...03:37
sophtpawMalachi: i've opened the tar.gz like you said. Now i don't know how to proceed. i tried ./ filename but i'm getting constant errors back03:37
unimatrix9bye bye, happy tuxing!03:37
FL|Maartyompaul: desktop version, after boot I can not use keybouard, have tried another with same result03:37
Malachisophtpaw: Have you tried ./configure? If you're trying to install something, ./configure is usually what you do.03:37
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qwertyhow do i change the screen resolution in ubuntu03:37
melodieabout 'Nada' I already had a few moments of fun reading on the site, and open the small links in it :))03:37
Malachisophtpaw: try './configure' , then 'make', then03:37
trappist!tell qwerty about fixres03:38
Malachi'make install'03:38
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karlantrappist, uninstall throu Synaptics ?03:38
trappistkarlan: that's one way to do it... depending on what you're uninstalling and how you installed it03:39
Imagineompaul: no, i chose defalt installation03:39
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qwertytrappist: what about fixres03:39
mikelohow do i write stout into a file?03:39
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trappistqwerty: the bot told you where to find information on changing your resolution03:39
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trappistmikelo: command > filename03:40
qwertyno it didnt?03:40
ompaulFL|Maarty,  the server install (when the machine pauses in the install routine) type in server when it reboots log in and install a desktop with the following command >> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<<03:40
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melodiecoming back later03:40
mikelook thankx03:40
ompaulmelodie, cheers03:40
trappistqwerty: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:40
mikelodoes the file need to exist already?03:40
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trappistmikelo: no03:40
melodiecheers03:40
qwertywat?03:40
existancei'm trying to reinstall grub but when i run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hde it says it isn't a block device03:41
y_o_uanyone know if there is a channel for ubuntu and wireless problems?03:41
mikelotnx trappist03:41
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trappisty_o_u: #ubuntu03:41
yatesylaff03:41
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sophtpawMalachi: i tarred ies4linux-1.3.3.tar.gz03:41
sophtpaw. Now i have in blue ies4linux i've tried ./configure and 'make' but neither work03:41
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yookoal1hello03:42
Malachisophtpaw: So it's extracted?03:42
FL|Maartyompaul: the problem is, taht i can not use keyboard, in that case i could be able to look in logs...:] 03:42
trappistsorush20: you have to 'cd ies4linux'03:43
y_o_ui am having issues getting ndiswrapper to play nice with my Belkin 7000 wireless PCI card. have used wiki's with no success. help. please. anyone.03:43
Malachisophtpaw: Now, cd that folder.03:43
sophtpawMalachi: yes, i did tar -zxvf like you said and it appears extracted03:43
sorush20trappist: hi03:43
qwertytrappist, it said that xserver was not installed03:43
sorush20I've just woken up..03:43
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Malachisophtpaw: run ls to see what folder was created.03:43
sophtpawMalachi: yes, did that i see in green ies4linux03:43
trappistqwerty: xserver-xorg03:43
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Malachisophtpaw: In green?03:44
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trappistMalachi: with colored ls green means executable03:44
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Malachitrappist: Right. Meaning it's not a folder.03:44
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trappistwhich would be blue03:44
sophtpawMalachi: yes, first in blue in /downloads next to the tar ball. Then when i ls ies4linux it is there in green along with a couple other folders03:44
Malachisophtpaw: Okay, it's not a folder, so try 'ies4linux'03:44
ordicasseompaul, melodie: it works!03:45
trappist./ies4linux03:45
ordicasseompaul, melodie: not completely, but i have grub back03:45
Malachisophtpaw: Yeah, what trappist said.03:45
sorush20trappist: you talking to me?03:45
trappistsorush20: no.  did you have a question?03:45
yookoal1I have an annoying problem with sound recording03:46
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davehello03:46
sorush20trappist: just problems with my ati card 3d acceleration..03:46
davecan anyone help with a partition query?03:46
trappistsorush20: have you asked those questions?03:46
redguy|work!ask03:46
yookoal1I cannot record any sound with gnome's recording program03:46
redguy|workdarn03:46
redguy|workdave don't ask to ask, just ask03:47
sophtpawtrappist: thank you, i'm in business03:47
sophtpawMalachi: thank you. It's getting there now. :)03:47
trappistsophtpaw: in the future, try to ask clearer and more specific questions.  this began with "what's the command to execute" when it should have been more like "I downloaded a tarball of ies4linux.  what now?" or something.03:48
Malachisophtpaw: Mhmm...sorry, wasn't really concentrating (trying to fix Samba). Sorry if I confused you.03:48
redguy|workwhy won't ubotu talk in the channel? too much bot abuse?03:48
yookoal1I've configured sound with the "Volume control" program. I can hear my voice from earphone now03:48
daveOK i have just installed a 160Gig storage drive and i want to have accessible to a Windows XP system on the network, but i was thinking of using ext3 or reiser filesystem03:48
davei dont want the XP to write to the disk03:48
trappistdave: if it's over the network, the filesystem doesn't matter03:48
yookoal1 but still nothing is captured in the sound recording program03:48
yookoal1what's worng?03:48
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yookoal1hello?03:49
daveok03:49
qwertytrappist it didnt do anything to my resolution03:49
melodieordicasse: that's very good! what does not work totally yet ?03:49
epswhat is the gnome burning app that is standard in 5.10?03:49
sophtpawtrappist: sorry, you are right i could have been clearer. It was the combination of your advice and Malachi's help that did it. Agues, i thought i had the tar ball thing sussed when i didn't quite03:49
redguy|workyookoal1: don't know how to help you, sorry03:49
trappistqwerty: it should have taken you through a wizard, which should have allowed you to select your preferred resolution.03:49
Imaginewell03:49
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daveso if i use reiserfs i should not have any defrag problems03:49
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Mabus06how do I make a superuser03:49
Imaginecan anyone else give me some help03:49
yookoal1redguywork, don't say that. thanks for answering03:49
daveand will be able to store files and share them on the ntwork03:50
epsMabus06 what for?03:50
Imagine?03:50
melodieordicasse, can you plug your usb hdd to do the backup now ?03:50
trappistdave: if you use any linux-native filesystem you should not have fragmentation problems03:50
redguy|workMabus06: what for?03:50
greenpenguin13Mabus06: you can give someone sudo access03:50
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trappistdave: yes, true for any filesystem in the list03:50
davethats why i want to use reiserfs not fat3203:50
qwertyyes, it did, but i selected my prefered resolution which is like 1028, 756 and it acts like it is still 800,60003:50
ordicassemelodie: ubuntu runs, but not the graphical interface, there are some errors, but at least i can see my datas, and mount it now with the live cd03:50
ImagineI'm trying to install ubuntu in my amd athlom xp 2700+,1024mb ram, 120gb hitachi IDE and I always get the same error: after the first installation fase is over, the computer reboots, I choose ubuntu boot in grub, but after a while the boot stalls with the error03:50
sophtpawMabus06: sudo -s03:50
yookoal1does anyone here knows about sound configuration here ?03:50
uber_spaceddoes anybody know what the best way to get MySQL 5 on ubuntu is?03:50
Mabus06why do you guys say what for?03:50
mikelotrappist, the script i have is in perl and writes to stdout but it gives me an error03:50
ordicassemelodie: yes i can!! :)03:50
yookoal1hello ?03:50
Mabus06to do things like.. open synaptic..03:50
Imagine* dev/hde5 not found03:50
uber_spacedi could compile it from source, but I was wondering if there is a 'Ubuntu' way of doing it...03:50
greenpenguin13Mabus06: you do that through sudo03:51
Mabus06I don't have a sudo account03:51
melodieordicasse, ok then do that first  :)03:51
trappistdave: the network (in this case samba) makes all the filesystem stuff pretty irrelevant.  the files themselves will go over the network, and only samba will have to talk to the filesystem itself.03:51
Imagine* /bin/sh: can't run tty: job control disabled03:51
epsuber_spaced aptitude install mysql ?03:51
sophtpawMabus06: to open synaptic you just need your password03:51
daveok thats great03:51
trappistmikelo: errors go to stderr, of course03:51
Mabus06I dont have a sudo account... I want to create one03:51
qwerty trappist: yes, it did, but i selected my prefered resolution which is like 1028, 756 and it acts like it is still 800,60003:51
redguy|workMabus06: you can't use sudo? is your user in the admin group?03:51
melodieMabus06 : are you the one who installed the distribution ?03:51
trappistqwerty: have you restarted X?03:51
uber_spacedeps, mysql 5 came out and supports stored procedures and triggers and the such, currently, my apt only shows version 4.x03:51
qwertyhold on a sec03:52
davemy next question is do you know the relevent change i should make to fstab to make it all come up at boot?03:52
trappistuber_spaced: 5 is not available in breezy03:52
Mabus06My user is not in the admin group, or anything, I forgot how to do that. Can someone tell me where that file is please?03:52
greenpenguin13Mabus06: but you need sudo access to get sudo access :/03:52
uber_spacedtrappist, so I guess I need to compile from source.03:52
trappistdave: not until I know the device and the filesystem03:52
Mabus06No, I can do it as root, greenpenguin1303:52
davefor example i used /dev/hdb1/Storagevfat umask=000 0 0 for the fat 3203:52
melodieordicasse: at same time, if you can connect the net from the terminal, why not try an update ?03:52
trappistuber_spaced: unless somebody's made a backports package or something, yeah03:52
Mabus06I know what I'm doing I just don't know where the file is.03:52
greenpenguin13Mabus06: oh...03:52
daveso i have the Storage set ans visible in ubuntu03:53
redguy|workMabus06: boot in the rescue mode and do 'adduser the_user admin'03:53
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melodiethen you reinstall gdm, and see what happens, for example ?03:53
trappistMabus06: /etc/group03:53
madphilosopher#lugradio03:53
Mabus06rescue mode? I ddi this before, it wasn't hard.03:53
Mabus06oh, thanks trappist03:53
redguy|workMabus06: oh, so you have root enabled03:53
epsuber_spaced ah okay...mmm welcome to the only down side of package management...the repo's take time to roll over to new versions03:53
greenpenguin13Mabus06: userconfig as root03:53
redguy|workMabus06: you can do the same as root03:53
bshumateuber_spaced: compile mysql5 from source (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MYSQL5FromSource)03:53
uber_spacedbshumate, thanks!03:53
greenpenguin13Mabus06: users-admin03:54
trappisteps: that's not a downside.  distros (except gentoo) tend not to release the all the newest, shiniest software into stable versions of the distro, because that would make it unstable.03:54
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ordicassemelodie: what is the command to make an update ?03:54
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epstrappist thanks for the useless information :)03:54
ordicassemelodie: using aptitude ?03:54
trappisteps: wtf.03:54
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epstrappist I was commenting to uber_spaced noting that there is a delay in package updates to versions03:55
melodieordicasse: you can copy from /dev/hda3 /dev/your-usb-device03:55
redguy|workdave: change vfat to appropriate fs name and umask=000 to defaults and it should work03:55
Mabus06ok I'm in users-admin, but what do I do to make user 'nick' have sudo03:55
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trappistMabus06: sudo visudo03:55
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concept10anyone been on digg in the last 10 mins?03:55
davethanks redguy03:55
redguy|workMabus06: put him in the admin group, sheesh03:56
Mabus06trappist visudo... that was it03:56
davehow do i get the red repolies?03:56
melodieor you could do other ways, with dd I suppose.... 'dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/dev/your-usb-device'03:56
epstrappist also that isn't correct anyway, many distros release 'up to the minute' packages - gentoo even trials behind ubuntu in some areas. it is up to the package maintainers.  but I'm sure that is useless info to you as well?03:56
ordicassemelodie: i get many operation not permitted when using the command "sudo cp -R lin/ /media/LACIE/backup/"03:56
melodieordicasse, see with the others what they say ? I've got few experience03:57
epsconcept10 don't see a great need to follow digg, other places pick up stories and have worthwhile comments on them anyway03:57
redguy|workeps: if you want to be up-to-the-minute run dapper03:57
ordicassemelodie: all look like : cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/LACIE/backup/lin/etc/X11/app-defaults/XScreenSaver': Operation not permitted03:57
gnomefreakis anyone else running dapper in here?03:57
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melodieordicasse can you tar all the files from within the distribution ? with the command line ? do you know to do that ?03:58
trappisteps: I'm not gonna argue about why we don't have firefox1.5, why kde3.5 is in a completely separate repository, why there exists a backports repository, etc.  you're just being an asshole.03:58
epsredguy|work look, did I say I was? I run debian sid and that is as 'up to the minute' as I want to be.  now can people stop adding useless information? helping people in here is so complicated03:58
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melodieif yes, then you could do  a .tar.bz2 archive03:58
Mabus06how do I make a second desktop with my ATI Radeon X700 pro using s-video?03:58
Seveastrappist, please watch your language...03:58
ordicassemelodie: the file would be too big03:58
concept10eps, I dont like digg that much myself, I just wondered if anyone else besides me noticed the spamming that has just taken place03:58
trappistSeveas: will do.03:58
epstrappist lay off please03:58
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eddyehy03:58
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redguy|workeps: it's not the useless information that makes helping people difficult. useless discussions are.03:58
melodieordicasse, I't would keep all the permissions the same, and you can restore easily after03:59
trappist<3 redguy|work03:59
epsredguy|work yes trappist got on some side track when I was helping another user03:59
melodieordicasse, then do several files, a bz2 compresses about 25 to 30 % I think03:59
eddyehow can i get a xorg.conf?03:59
epsI've noticed this channel has a big problem with that03:59
eddyei messed my03:59
epseddye default or ubuntu one?03:59
ordicassemelodie: okay, then i should only tar home, var, boot ?03:59
eddyedefault04:00
pl_icehey nalioth :)04:00
Seveaseddye, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:00
thefishwhere can I get lame for 5.10?04:00
eddyeSeveas,04:00
naliothhowdy y'all04:00
eddyei tryed that04:00
Seveasthefish, gstreamer-lame, liblame?04:00
gnomefreakgm nalioth04:00
ordicassemelodie: do you know how to see the size of those directories, to evalate the size of the tar.bz file ?04:00
Seveashi nalioth04:00
melodieordicasse, I start usually with the personal documents04:00
thefishSeveas: those didnt show up in apt-cache search lame :/04:00
pl_iceu guys don't sleep or somethin' ... ?04:00
thefishthanks, will thry those04:00
Seveaspl_ice, no04:00
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Seveasthefish, enabe universe & multiverse04:01
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eddyeeps, how can i get the ubuntu if i cant the default04:01
raphinkpl_ice: ?04:01
Seveaseddye, you tried that and what?04:01
ubuntu_how to know the size in Ko of a directory ?04:01
pl_iceraphink ? ... hm?04:01
ovehwill this work if i want to mount a iso file? sudo mount -o loop cdimage.iso /mnt/cdrom04:01
Seveasubuntu_, man du04:01
uber_spacedubuntu_, du -h04:01
raphinkpl_ice: what do you mean we don't sleep?04:01
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Seveasoveh, yes04:01
eddyeSeveas,04:02
redguy|workoveh: AFAIK it should work04:02
eddyeERRORS :)04:02
pl_iceraphink couse heaps of people, and it's late over here ;)04:02
melodieordicasse, one thing at a time:04:02
Seveaseddye, *sigh* which errors? (pastebin them)04:02
ovehoki, testing it out :-)04:02
bur[n] eranyone else use quodlibet and find it the greatest music player for gnome?04:02
raphinkpl_ice: have you heard about other countries ?04:02
bur[n] er:)04:02
pl_iceoveh try, it will say error :/ but i think u have to put -o loop at the end04:02
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raphinkpl_ice: and about how its not the same time everywhere on earth at a given time ?04:02
melodieordicasse, after my personal documents I do the configuration folders which are in the /home/user04:02
ovehpl_ice: oki, thanx for the tip04:02
eddyeSeveas, i am on Live cd because i cant log on the Installed ubuntu04:02
eddye:(04:02
Seveaseddye, why not?04:03
pl_iceraphink , cool out, it's a joke04:03
raphink;)04:03
pl_icemy time zone is 8+04:03
Seveaspl_ice, raphink didn't sleep in a very long time so his sense of humour is low ;)04:03
melodiesometimes I put apart the ~/.thunderbird/profile user folder04:03
pl_iceheeeh04:03
raphinkSeveas: haha04:04
pl_icebtw anyone uses xmms with itouch plugin? can't find answer for that one ...04:04
raphink:)04:04
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qwertyis there anything you guys think i should really get from04:04
melodieabout /var just the /var/cache/apt/archives can be a good idea, but if you have a good large band, not useful saving04:04
bur[n] erhttp://burner.ath.cx/Screenshot.png  <--quodlibet with cover art :)04:04
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eddyei messed my xorg and then when i try the code: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start it says an error and it says to rebot my pc04:04
eddyebut i rebotet and nothing worked04:04
qwertysynaptic package manager04:04
pl_iceeddye, want mine ?04:04
pl_icefor ati04:04
bur[n] ereddye: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ??04:04
Seveaseddye, reboot, try to start X, pastebin the Xorg.0.log04:04
eddyepl_ice,04:05
eddyeno04:05
eddye:)04:05
pl_ice:)04:05
bur[n] ereddye: if your'e on a livecd, you could copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf from there that works04:05
melodieordicasse, ok work well, see y'a later04:05
eddyehave on this live cd one04:05
eddyebur[n] er,04:05
pl_icebye melodie04:05
eddyethat is the problem04:05
eddye:)04:05
ubuntu_"du -h mydirectory" gives the size of all subdirectories, i only need the size of "mydirectory"04:05
bur[n] ereddye: the livecd won't work?04:06
pl_icedu -h then the path for it04:06
ordicassethanks for all melodie04:06
uber_spacedwhen I started to configure MySQL, it gave me this error: No curses/termcap library found.  I did an apt-cache search on curses and got a lot of hits.  which one should I install? (ncurses?)04:06
thefishSeveas: thanks, it was in multiverse04:06
eddyeyes it works but my live cd is version 5.404:06
eddyeand i have installed 5.1004:06
eddyei am afraid i will get errors04:06
eddye:)04:06
bur[n] ereddye: i'd still say to try and do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:06
eddyeok ill try04:06
bur[n] erbut pasting the error to pastebin will be the most effective as seveas suggests04:07
eddyeor ill have to reinstall ubuntu :(04:07
bur[n] eru can use irssi to come back here04:07
bur[n] eru wont' have to reinstall04:07
bur[n] erthat's silly ;)04:07
yookoal1is there any good example / tutorial in seting up mic in ubuntu?04:07
MalachiIs there a way that you can print to a virtual printer? Like print to a PDF file.04:07
eddyebur[n] er,04:07
bur[n] eryookoal1: plug it in!04:07
eddyeill be back :)04:07
bur[n] erMalachi: I know how in kde, if you find out in gnome, let me know04:07
yookoal1bur[n] er, but it does not work ...04:07
pl_icehey, i got a funny joke (no ban pls) if bill gates got laid in high school there won't be microsfot :D04:08
eddyebye all04:08
bur[n] eryookoal1: turn up the mic volume?  is it muted?  how are you testing?04:08
pl_icebye04:08
qwertyim getting konsole now :)04:08
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yookoal1bur[n] er, it does not work with "gnome redorder" actually. I tested everything in "Volume control"04:08
qwertyis there a way i can boot to kde to try it out, right now im on gnome04:08
bur[n] eranyone familiar with developing gdesklets?04:08
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bur[n] eryookoal1: u can play back audio right?  just mic doesn't work?04:09
yookoal1bur[n] er, it can play audio04:09
Malachibur[n] er: How did you on KDE?04:09
bur[n] eryookoal1: Malachi it just showed up as pdf printer in my list04:09
MalachiHmm.04:09
bur[n] erMalachi: i think it's part of kdeprint04:10
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albackerguys, i recompiled my kernel and after rebooting i got a lot of errors, but i could enter the new kernel. How can i stop the errors from comming out.. There were some things i dont want to be loaded on startup  this is the kernel log : http://pastebin.com/48289304:10
cratel1I have a Promise SATA controller connect to a HD that Breezy doesn't appear to find. How do I install this?04:11
yookoal1bur[n] er, I can hear my from the mic through the headphone. But recorder connot record my voice04:11
albackercan someone help me please ?04:12
Malachibur[n] er: Is printing to file just as good?04:12
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bur[n] eryookoal1: awww... so configure recorder to use the right input device04:13
mason0020hi, I want to use Boost C++ library in ubuntu. Does it come along with ubuntu, or do I have to seperately install it04:13
pl_icealbacker u got alsa problem, then other ones04:13
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albackerpl_ice, even tho theres an alsa error i can use alsa output.. any idea ?04:14
bur[n] eryookoal1: i lied, you can't... use audacity? :)04:14
yookoal1bur[n] er, how to cofigure the input device for that?04:14
gnomefreakis there a reason why the kernel and the restricted modules are being kept back in dapper searched bugzilla and didnt find anything?04:14
pl_icealbacker and ur bus speed is 33 mhz assuming? for ide? not sure ...about that04:14
bur[n] erMalachi: i guess, I like .pdfs04:14
Malachibur[n] er: So do I....04:14
bur[n] eryookoal1: maybe there's an option in gconf-editor, but i don't see it in the UI04:14
yookoal1bur[n] er, not tried audacity yet. but skype does not work either04:15
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bur[n] eryookoal1: no?  skype works for me04:15
albackerpl_ice, any idea on how to resolve those problems ?04:15
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bur[n] erskype even let me choose between my sound cards to use the one with the mic04:15
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pl_icealbacker it said that didn't found ur s.card :)04:16
albackerpl_ice what to do ? any idea ?04:17
pl_icealbacker http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=218599  read that ..04:17
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cratel1how do I create a partitition and format a new added (not boot) drive?04:18
pl_icemaybe u didn't get ur s.card 'ticked' in config ?04:18
christianphi all04:18
uber_spacedyayyy! MySQL is compiling (the correct package was libncurses5-dev)04:18
yookoal1bur[n] er, show to configure /dev/dsp (the standard sound device of skype)04:18
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albackerpl_ice, dont know ! :S04:19
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pl_icecratel1 fdisk /dev/drive then add a partition to it, then u have to create file system on it04:19
pl_icealbacker well, that's the beuaty of compiling ur egg :)04:19
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albackerpl_ice, i configured so much stuff that i dont know what i ticked and unticked.. i know i ticked some alsa and oss stuff.04:20
cratel1pl_ice: okay. I was just trying gpart-ed. It is asking about a disk label and wants to call it...msdos???04:20
afiefIs something wrong with my updater? I still have OpenOffice 1.9.129:S:S04:21
pl_icecratel1 u mean u went fo fdisk press new, create partions, then add a partition type?04:21
pl_icealbacker g luck :)04:21
albackerpl_ice, you think i have to recompile the kernel and this time carefully ?04:22
bur[n] ercratel1: msdos is ok04:22
redguy|workpl_ice: maybe you mean cfdisk?04:22
bur[n] ercratel1: gparted is great :)04:22
MalachiArgh, my sound is choppy. It's always been choppy.04:22
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MalachiAny ideas how to fix it?04:22
pl_iceredguy|work yeh ... , bit late here ... :)04:22
bur[n] erMalachi: using gstreamer?04:23
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bur[n] erMalachi: what app?04:23
MalachiSystem sounds are alright, just sound from video and mp3s are messed up.04:23
cratel1pl_ice: I chose the <NEW> icon after I selected "Unallocated" for the partition...04:23
bur[n] erMalachi: sudo apt-get install totem-xine04:23
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jtibaucan anyone help me set up a proxy server in breezy????04:23
Malachibur[n] er Well, I using Google Video04:23
pl_icealbacker , the last errors are something with raid, have a look there ...04:23
bur[n] erMalachi: awwwwwwwww... that's flash04:23
cratel1bur[n] er: do I want to consider any other type of disklabel or does it not matter or...04:23
bur[n] ercratel1: don't consider others ;)04:23
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albackerpl_ice, there ? where ?04:24
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MalachiTotem never starts up.04:24
pl_icedevice mapper04:24
uber_spacedyeah, totem seems borkinated.04:24
bur[n] erMalachi: that's just trouble04:24
bur[n] ertotem works fine here04:25
uber_spacedhow do I completely remove totem from my system?04:25
bur[n] ertotem plays my divx, xvid, rm, mov, dvd, etc.04:25
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s1gnAlis there a good resource to learn about LVM in ubuntu? I don't know anything about it04:25
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bur[n] ersudo apt-get remove --purge totem*04:25
eddyehey04:25
cratel1bur[n] er: okay. The "magic" is happening....04:25
eddyeim back04:25
bur[n] erhowever, totem is part of ubuntu-desktop04:25
uber_spacedshweet. thanks.04:25
eddyebur[n] er:04:25
eddyeit isnt working04:25
bur[n] ercratel1: nice ;)04:25
redguy|works1gnAl: there's a very nice howto at IBM's developerworks04:25
bur[n] ereddye: got an error to paste?04:25
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bur[n] ereddye: something about no screens found?04:26
Malachibur[n] er: The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.04:26
bur[n] ereddye: did you reconfigure and pick the right settings for your monitor04:26
eddyeSegmentation Fault when i try to copy or paste or move04:26
redguy|works1gnAl: there's a howto on www.tldp.org as well i think. google :-)04:26
s1gnAlthanks :)04:26
bur[n] erMalachi: nothing else is open right?  gnome-system-monitor show any crashed totem by chance?04:26
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eddyebur[n] er: what is this error "Segmentation fault" ??04:27
Malachibur[n] er: Could it be because I'm using VMWare?04:27
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thavaHi04:27
eddyebur[n] er: you still here :) =?=04:27
bur[n] erMalachi: got me, i've never used vmware04:27
bur[n] ersegmentation fault could be anything04:27
paulproteus|lapteddye: It means the program crashed.04:28
afiefIs something wrong with my updater? I still have OpenOffice 1.9.129:S:S04:28
thavaanyone now how i can run photoshop04:28
gnomefreakafief, are you using breezy?04:28
eddyepaulproteus|lapt:04:28
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eddyehow do i fix i?04:28
eddyeit?04:29
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bur[n] ereddye: using breezy eh?04:29
afiefyes04:29
eddyeyes04:29
bur[n] ereddye: did you fresh install breezy or upgrade to it?04:29
afiefgnomefreak:yes04:29
eddyefresh install04:29
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gnomefreakthan no nothing is wrong if you want to have OOo2 use the open office repo found at source-o-matic04:29
bur[n] ereddye: what video card?04:29
gnomefreak!sources04:29
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:29
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gnomefreaktheres the link04:30
it4ngothava : try to use GIMP or GIMPSHOP04:30
eddyeati radeon 920004:30
eddyeno 900004:30
eddye:)04:30
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bur[n] ereddye: using fglrx?04:30
eddyeim going nuts :)04:30
eddyeyes04:30
bur[n] ertry not using it? ;)04:30
eddyehow can i do that?04:30
bur[n] erand just using hte "ati" or "radeon" driver04:30
eddye:)04:30
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liberviscowhere is Ubuntu art channel?04:30
s1gnAlhmm, Im not seeing much about LVM, I am running one disk, would I benefit from this?04:30
bur[n] ereddye: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the "driver" line and change it to "ati" or "radeon"04:30
nalioths1gnAl: you would not.04:31
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eddyebur[n] er: ill be back in about 40minutes04:31
bur[n] erhehe, ok04:31
bur[n] eri might not be04:31
bur[n] er;)04:31
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s1gnAlso should I stick with normal partitions?04:31
eddyebur[n] er: i dont have no more xorg.conf04:31
bur[n] ereddye: good luck nonetheless04:31
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bur[n] ereddye: that's yer problem then ;)04:31
gnomefreaki only know where gnome kde and xfce art is not sure where ubuntu art is :(04:31
eddye:)04:31
eddyebye04:31
gnomefreak!art04:31
ubotumethinks art is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityArtwork04:31
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eddyequit04:31
Malachibur[n] er: After installing totem-xine, Totem won't open.04:31
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Malachibur[n] er: Rythembox works fine, though.04:32
Quencherr can someone help me, as i get into kubuntu, all is ok, but then as a open the menu at bottem, screen corrupts alittle and it freezes ?04:32
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bur[n] erMalachi: totem gives an error?04:32
pl_iceanyone installed linux on ipod? ...04:32
MalachiNope.04:32
MalachiJust closes04:32
bur[n] erMalachi: open it from a term04:32
liberviscothanks ubotu04:32
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Quenchanyone04:33
Quench?04:33
Malachibur[n] er: Nothing.04:33
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liberviscoubotu, there's gonna be a meeting in that channel in about 7 hours or so...04:33
ubotulibervisco: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about04:33
bur[n] erQuench: sorry04:33
bur[n] erMalachi: wtf ;)04:33
Morrowynpl_ice, i was looking at that a sec ago, somehow i cant mount it04:33
pl_iceMalachi try totem-xine i heard that totem got problems, but my totem-xine still baaddd ...04:33
skynetprohy04:33
lleberg_How do i find out hte actual package name of a known program?04:33
Morrowynthen i decided to use my ibook for it instead04:33
bur[n] erMalachi: u can go back to totem-gstreamer, but totem-xine usually plays smoother for me04:33
lleberg_VLC for example04:33
bur[n] erMalachi: at least until gstreamer0.10 is used by totem04:34
liberviscooh :D04:34
liberviscolol04:34
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MalachiGOT IT.04:34
pl_iceMorrowyn , have u tried? bit scared ;) to do it04:34
liberviscoubotu is a bot :D04:34
ubotulibervisco: I don't know, could you explain it?04:34
Morrowyni got a bsod when i inserted my ipod into my windows box, was funny04:34
bur[n] erlleberg_: vlc is the package name04:34
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skynetprohave anybody problem with GBTcr? GBTcr is a GNOME app uses bluetooth to communicate with the phone04:34
ph8lo all04:34
MalachiHad to kill one already running =)04:34
skynetpromake dosn't compile04:34
lleberg_bur[n] er, strange04:34
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bur[n] eripods are a virus themselves... crazy itunes and drm and non-usb mass storage crap if you ask me ;)04:34
Morrowynwell, cant be arsed to do research on it :)04:34
Morrowynnot atm04:34
lleberg_or maybe i haven't added universe or multiverse, installed yesterday :P04:34
ATAQ1Hey, I need to get a 64bit driver for my MSI 945P motherboard, does anybody know anything that I could do?04:34
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bur[n] erlleberg_: i'm guessing that's it ;)04:34
pl_icebur[n] er u're right :)04:34
idefix_is there a simple quick command in linux ubuntu for taking a picture with a webcam??04:35
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ph8When my friend starts ubuntu he gets a nice little graphical screen where all the filesystem checks/network config/clock synchronisation that usually happens on startup appears (the usual about 20-30 lines of initiations) - on mine it's not graphical at all it's all just plain text, any ideas how to turn this feature on?04:35
idefix_!webcam04:35
ubotufrom memory, webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.04:35
pl_iceMorrowyn yeh, bit lazy atm :) but i'm willing to try, show off at uni :)04:35
Malachibur[n] er: It works, but it's still choppy.04:35
Morrowyncool :)04:35
Morrowynlet me know if you managed it04:35
pl_iceyeh04:35
bur[n] erMalachi: yeah, gstreamer is choppy... can't believe totem-xine doesn't work :\04:35
pl_iceMorrowyn , will post pics on web :P04:36
liberviscofound it, cya04:36
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[FeiM] Swoop|Awayph8: thats the boot splash .. it's featured from breezy badger04:36
Malachibur[n] er: I meant xine.04:36
bur[n] erMalachi: google vids will be choppy as they use flash04:36
bur[n] eroh?04:36
bur[n] erMalachi: what's the data source?04:36
Malachibur[n] er: mp3.04:36
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Morrowynthis is the error i got: given udi is not a mountable volume04:36
[FeiM] Swoop|Awayph8: you are using hoary release right ?04:36
bur[n] erMalachi: i'd say check your processor and ram usage... see if the whole machine is bogged down04:36
bur[n] erMalachi: mp3s shouldn't be a problem04:37
bur[n] eresp. if rhythmbox plays them04:37
afiefWhy isn't my OpenOffice updated? even though i run the updater everyday?04:37
Quenchdoes anyone know why i cant boot ubuntu , when my cdrom is disconnected04:37
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Morrowynif you get the same error pl_ice let me know04:37
Morrowynand how you fixed it ofc :)04:38
bur[n] erafief: OOo2 isn't going to be in breezy... add new sources for it04:38
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bur[n] er!openoffice04:38
ubotubur[n] er: No idea04:38
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idefix_how do you add a line to your depot?04:38
bur[n] erhrm... well, i dont' know where the sources are, but they exist04:38
bur[n] erdepot?04:38
idefix_Ajouter la ligne suivante dans les depots :04:38
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bur[n] eridefix_: repository maybe?04:38
pl_iceMorrowyn when did u get that error? which part of procedure?04:38
afiefbur[n] er: and what about the kernel 2.6.14?04:39
idefix_ok how do I add a line to my depository?04:39
bur[n] erafief: u'll have to wait for dapper04:39
idefix_eh repository04:39
bur[n] eridefix_: /etc/apt/sources.list04:39
bur[n] eridefix_: or edit via synaptic04:39
afiefbur[n] er: okay i'm fine with that, but is there a list of what to expect from dapper drake?04:40
idefix_after you add the line you have to reboot?04:40
ATAQ1When you install 64-bit Ubuntu, are the generic drivers usually good enough, I mean the motherboard ones?04:40
bur[n] erafief: not really... u can search the wiki for a roadmap and all that jazz04:40
Morrowynpl_ice, i got when i inserted the usb dongle into my machine and then in nautilus04:40
afiefbur[n] er: then how do you know it's all gonna be in it?:s04:40
bur[n] erafief: or http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/newpkg_main to see new packages in dapper04:41
Morrowynafter a double click on "apple's ipod music thing"04:41
bur[n] erafief: packages.ubuntu.com tells me so04:41
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pl_iceMorrowyn was that after u installed linux on ipod? or just ipod itself :P04:41
idefix_why is the sources.list not executable?04:41
bur[n] erafief: 2.6.15 is there rather04:41
Morrowynjust the ipod itself04:41
mike-wis it possible to make thunderbird launch instead of evolution when i click on an email address04:41
afiefbur[n] er: huh? isn't that one still unstable?04:42
idefix_I'm trying to be inventive04:42
MalachiIs there a newer version of Open Office than the one that comes with Ubuntu?04:42
MalachiBecause that one keeps crashing...04:42
bur[n] erafief: probably... you'll notice that it's not april and dapper isn't stable yet either :P04:42
PygiMalachi: yes, there is...04:42
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pl_iceMorrowyn v. strange, but remember, u have to format it first, i did it using xp :P and the apple shitty program (on linux much harder) then i use gnupod04:42
PygiMalachi: there is a true 2.0 release04:42
PygiMalachi: this is RC X04:42
idefix_how does this sources.list-file work?04:42
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Morrowynok04:42
bur[n] ermike-w: system -> preferences -> preferred applications04:42
idefix_is it read and stored in memory when you startup your PC?04:42
MalachiPygi: But it's not in the repositories?04:43
idefix_I'm a total linux-newby!04:43
Morrowyni havent formatted it, i just inserted it into my ibook, started itunes04:43
afiefbur[n] er: well:) 1st april is my birthday, so yes i noticed04:43
PygiMalachi: nop04:43
Morrowynand did my thing04:43
idefix_any help would be appreciated04:43
PygiMalachi: it will be in Dapper, same as Firefox 1.504:43
MalachiDapper?04:43
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bobbydhi04:43
PygiMalachi: next release of Ubuntu scheduled for April if I am not mistaken04:43
bur[n] erdapper is the next version of ubuntu... right now, we're on breezy04:43
MalachiAh.04:44
PygiMalachi: :)04:44
pl_iceMorrowyn u have to format it , somehow :) i think i used itunes and it asked me for a format, u might want to use emergency kit for reboot (program) to put OS on it04:44
MalachiSo I have to get it manually...04:44
Malachi*sigh* Okay.04:44
afiefWhat good games are there in the Repository?04:44
Morrowynok04:44
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Morrowynwell i cant be arsed to do it, since i have a working ipod04:44
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bur[n] erMalachi: check backports04:44
Morrowynso im cool with it :)04:44
bur[n] erafief: crack-attack!!!!  breakout, frozen-bubble, tuxracer04:45
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_drakenwat is the password for root04:45
_drakenwhen just installed ?04:45
pl_iceMorrowyn i burned hd on one of them, 2 wks old one :D04:45
Malachibur[n] er: Mmm....nope.04:46
uber_spaced_draken, sudo passwd root04:46
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gnomefreak_draken, your user password04:46
uber_spacedgnomefreak, no, it isnt.04:46
Morrowyn:)04:46
gnomefreakuber_spaced,  why not?04:46
bur[n] ergnomefreak: because there is no root password... u have to use sudo04:46
bur[n] ergnomefreak: try "su" and use your user password, it doesn't work :P04:47
gnomefreakbur[n] er, yes i know and isnt your user password used with sudo?04:47
bur[n] erso... burn ;)04:47
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bur[n] ergnomefreak: it is...  hence, sudo, not root!04:47
gnomefreakbur[n] er, open synaptic tell me what it asks you for?04:47
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uber_spacedbur[n] er, <sarcasm>Ohhh! I get it! Sudo is a play on words!! Pseudo! As in Not REAL! As in NOT ROOT!!!</sarcasm>04:48
gnomefreakbur[n] er, su is disabled by default04:48
bur[n] ergnomefreak: it asks for a password for sudo... not a root password04:48
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idefix_can you run the sources.list file? is it a script? can you run a script?04:48
bur[n] ergnomefreak: su is not "disabled" there is no root password04:48
gnomefreakbur[n] er, he also said he just installed it04:48
PygiI bealive you should not use sudo :) use "gksudo" insted or "kdesu"04:48
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idefix_Pygi? can you run the sources.list file? is it a script? can you run a script?04:48
bur[n] eridefix_: sources.list is just a text file... no scripting about it04:48
gnomefreak!su04:49
ubotugnomefreak: Are you on ritalin?04:49
cratel1I'm needing to mount my newly formatted SATA drive. 1) Why doesn't it automount and 2) where should I mount it to? /mnt/<something>?04:49
Pygiidefix: sources.list is a text file, no script :)04:49
idefix_but linux reads from it?04:49
Pygiidefix: it is used to identify what repositories to use04:49
Pygiit is used by apt04:49
idefix_it's a bit like a system file then!04:49
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bur[n] ercratel1: put it in /etc/fstab and give it a mount point... i use /media/sda1 for sata drives04:49
bur[n] eridefix_: sure04:49
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idefix_how can you restore the situation just in case you screw up your PC?04:50
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Pygiidefix: not really a system file :/ It is used by just "another app" in the system04:50
cratel1bur[n] er: okay. Will try. What are the <dump> and <pass> parameters in fstab?04:50
bur[n] eridefix_: restore sources.list?  just remember what you changed ;)04:50
Dr_Willisive never been able to figure out what MS thinks is imporntant enough to be a 'system file' :P it says everything from, the kernel.dll to the 'My Music' folder is critical.04:50
bur[n] ercratel1: 0 004:51
Pygiwillis: hehe :)04:51
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bur[n] erDr_Willis: for that matter, why is MS so possessive with the "My" crap anyway04:51
Dr_WillisPygi,  not to mention the empty folders that are for some reason so critical - they get remade every time you delete them..04:51
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gnomefreakidefix_,  if you mess something up in sources look at the sources list in the link ubotu will post04:51
gnomefreak!sources04:51
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:51
Pygiburner: they deprecated "My" in Vista I heard....04:51
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bur[n] erPygi: i heard the same... finally :)04:52
Dr_Willisbur[n] er,  better then some of the other obscenely long names ive seen programs use.. or ones with (R) or (C) in the file names.04:52
idefix_is it a problem if the stuff I type into the sources.list is french?04:52
PygiWillis: heh, really? Sorry, haven't used Windows for 8 years :/04:52
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Dr_WillisFrench url's ? Hmm.. with fancy french characters?04:52
Pygiidefix: french? what are you typing in french?04:52
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gnomefreakidefix_, dont know is it in french now?04:52
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_drakenerrr04:52
cratel1bur[n] er: thanks. I'll reboot now and see if it worked...04:53
bur[n] ercratel1: no need to reboot04:53
bur[n] eroh well04:53
bur[n] ersome people ;)04:53
gnomefreaklol04:53
Pygiburner: too late :)04:53
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gnomefreakhe thinks hes running windows04:53
spiderwormhi, if there's any ubuntu dvd playback experts here, can you please take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109583 <--- thanks in advance for your help04:53
bur[n] ersilly windows tendencies04:53
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Pygignomefreak: I was just about to say that :P04:53
bur[n] erlol04:53
idefix_could not save the file "etc/apt/sources.list"04:53
idefix_:-(04:53
gnomefreakvery few things require reboot in linux :)04:54
Pygiidefix: you should use gksudo when editing file04:54
bur[n] eridefix_: edit it as root... aka use "sudo" or "gksudo"04:54
gnomefreakidefix_, why cant you hit the save button?04:54
Pygior "kdesu" if using Kubuntu04:54
Pygiburner: do you really think it's a good idea to suggest "sudo" ? :/04:54
iarwahello, is there anyone who can speak italian?04:54
pericleshi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!04:54
gnomefreakgksude gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:54
gnomefreak!it04:55
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:55
bur[n] erspiderworm: first thought is that you need a different libdvdcss file04:55
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iarwathanks04:55
gnomefreakyw04:55
Pygignomefreak: isn't it "gksudo" and not "gksude" :/04:55
idefix_ok ok it works, now restart my PC?04:55
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bur[n] eridefix_: no!!!!04:55
Pygino, don't restart nothin' :P04:55
gnomefreakyes sorry :)04:55
bur[n] erlol04:55
idefix_no??04:55
bur[n] ersilly windows converts04:55
bur[n] erno!04:55
bur[n] erjust apt-get update04:55
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Pygino, your not on windows :P04:55
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Matishi!!! i am the greatest NW ever in Linux =P04:56
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PygiMatis: hi hi :)04:56
MalachiHow do you change default programs besides the web browser and mail program?04:56
Matiscan i see the list of packages on apt-get ?04:56
pericleshi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!04:56
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spiderwormbur[n] er: i've tried a couple different ones, the one from the libdvdread3 package, and one that somebody else here recommended for me...04:56
PygiMatis: yes04:56
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draken_wat is root password ppl ?04:56
bur[n] erMalachi: right click the filetype... properties, open with tab04:56
PygiMatis: apt-cache :)04:56
draken_when u first install04:56
Pygidraken: no root pass, but you can set it04:56
draken_where how04:56
spiderwormbur[n] er: do you have a libdvdcss2 file you would recommend I try?04:56
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Pygidraken: root is disabled by default04:56
gnomefreakdraken_, what are you trying to do?04:56
MalachiThanks, yet again, bur[n] er!04:57
bur[n] erspiderworm: wish I did... i got mine ages ago :\04:57
draken_edit network settings04:57
draken_asks for admin04:57
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spiderwormk04:57
Matislets see04:57
Pygidraken: heh, use ur password04:57
gnomefreakyou use your user password04:57
bur[n] erspiderworm: try vlc?  that might be a workaround while you find a working libdvdcss04:57
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naliothdraken_: there is no root password04:57
draken_i tried04:57
cratel1bur[n] er: just as I was rebooting I saw you wrote "no need to reboot." What should I have done instead? Also...it didn't work. I saw a "failed" when it tried to mount local files systems. Under the disk manager it has the SATA drive listed as "inaccessible."04:57
draken_doesnt work04:57
Pygiuse "gksudo" or if ur using kubuntu then "kdesu"04:57
spiderwormbur[n] er: vlc doesnt play it either04:57
bur[n] ercratel1: mount /dev/blah04:57
j2daoshwhere is the autmatix script located at again?04:57
idefix_so unstable release or breezy release is that ok?04:57
pericleshi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!04:57
spiderwormbur[n] er: vlc uses libdvdcss anyways04:57
j2daoshautomatix04:57
Pygio nalioth, hello :)04:57
idefix_I need some kick-ass linux course, that's all!04:57
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gnomefreakdraken_,  did you install ubuntu?04:58
bur[n] ervlc uses libdvdcss?  oh... guess I never knew, i've had libdvdcss long as I can remember ;)04:58
Dr_Willisj2daosh,  :P   google.com for it  - is what i always do..04:58
bur[n] erspiderworm: in response to Myth plyaing it choppy... have you enabled dma?04:58
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draken_guys04:58
pericleshi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!04:58
draken_it isnt working04:58
spiderwormbur[n] er: im not sure.... how do i check that?04:58
|Lestat|anyone know of a good resource for finding out how to get my wireless network to initalize at bootup? :)04:58
bur[n] er!dma04:58
draken_i type my password it, just doesnt allow me to do admin shit04:58
spiderwormbur[n] er: only have command line access to the box right now btw04:58
gnomefreakidefix_,  theres a free online course for linux04:58
pericleshi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!04:59
pericleshi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!04:59
Matisnice like 1487 pkg :P thx04:59
pericleshi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!04:59
bur[n] erhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA04:59
gnomefreakdraken_,  are you using command line?04:59
idefix_I get two W's and one E04:59
Dr_Willisdraken_,  you made a initial user, you gave him a password.. try using 'sudo' from the shell with that password also..04:59
draken_no gnome04:59
bur[n] erspiderworm: links works ;)04:59
draken_im trying to bridge 2 network cards04:59
spiderwormbur[n] er: how do i check to see whether dma is enabled or not?04:59
MatisPYGI THX!!04:59
idefix_W: = warning? E: = exception?04:59
PygiMatis: yw04:59
bur[n] erspiderworm: links https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA04:59
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AMD_Is there a command shortcut to jump to a specific workspace?  rather than hitting CTRL-ALT <left arrow>/<right arrow>  ?   Something like CTRL-ALT [1234]    ?05:00
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draken_can someone tell me how to bridge two cons ?05:00
gnomefreakhere is the online course http://www.linux.org/lessons/index.html05:00
idefix_hey thanks for the cool shortcut05:00
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idefix_Ctrl-Alt right twice :P05:00
AMD_idefix_: haha ;)05:01
bur[n] erAMD_: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts05:01
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draken_how do i bridge two network cards05:01
draken_like in windows05:01
bur[n] erctrl+alt+d == my favorite :)05:01
AMD_bur[n] er: thanks :)05:01
bur[n] erdraken_: u come to irc and ask the same question over and over again and never use google... trust me, it works05:01
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Pygiburner: really? what's a google? :)05:02
Belboz99Anyone know if it's a good or bad idea to add more debian sources to my etc/apt/sources.list file?05:02
gnomefreaklol Pygi05:02
Boblis it possible to communicate with windows machines with sharing files and printers when running ubuntu? (n00b)05:02
gnomefreakbad05:02
draken_bur[n] er:  i dont have the time05:02
bur[n] erBelboz99: that's silly... it's dependent on what you add... not the fact that you add05:02
tRSSguys how can I take screenshot without logging into ubuntu. I have made a theme and I want to take screenshot of my theme05:02
uber_spacedBobl, read up on samba05:02
Belboz99I'm feeling really limited here after using Debian for about 6 months05:02
naliothBelboz99: a bad idea05:02
bur[n] erBobl: yes... samba... "sudo apt-get install samba"05:02
Pygibobl: samba05:02
Pygignomefreak: what's funny? :)05:02
Boblroger!05:02
bur[n] erBelboz99: use universe?05:03
gnomefreakPygi, whats google05:03
naliothBelboz99: debian biraries will break your ubuntu05:03
MatisI EVERYBODY----------- I AM REALY NW ON LINUX SO I WANT TO START FROM THE BEGINING I MEAN, USING JUST CONSOLE, AND THEN TRY TO SET UP A XWINDOW, CAN I QUIT GNOME FROM UBUNTU?, AND I WILL LEARN TO USE THE CONSOLE FIRST05:03
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gnomefreakmost packages you find in debian you will find in ubuntu05:03
uber_spacedMatis, ctrl-alt-f105:03
PygiMatis: Lower the caps lock, please05:03
Belboz99okay, so how do I get more ap's to in my apt list?05:03
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bur[n] erMatis: upon install... instead of hitting "enter" type "server" and then enter05:03
naliothMatis: turn off the caps, please05:03
kemikMatis:  do a server install of ubuntu (breezy)05:03
naliothubotu: tell Belboz99 about repos05:03
naliothBelboz99: enable universe and multiverse05:03
Matissrry about the captions, and i don't now how to send pm :P05:04
bur[n] erMatis: /msg05:04
Matisyes i got breezy05:04
Pygignomefreak: well, I don't know what's google :)05:04
MalachiWhat can stream .asx radio streams?05:04
gnomefreaki would suggest that you keep Xwindows installed and learn the command line05:04
spiderwormbur[n] er: you wouldnt perchance know how i could go about troubleshooting why totem cant decrypt an encrypted dvd even though libdvdcss is installed, would you?05:04
spiderwormim wondering if there's just a symlink that needs to be put somewhere or something....05:04
cratel1bur[n] er: thanks! All is working now... Do I need to add anything to hdparm.conf i.e. dma=on or anything like that?05:04
spiderwormor maybe list the library in a file....05:04
bur[n] erspiderworm: i wish I could go deeper on it, but it kinda just worked after getting libdvdcss, so I never learned any troubleshooting05:04
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spiderwormbur[n] er: np, thanks anyways05:05
bur[n] ercratel1: if you want05:05
bur[n] erspiderworm: did you try that script from the wiki?05:05
spiderwormbur[n] er: yes05:05
Pygicratell: can I add in just one suggestion for days to come? :)05:05
spiderwormbur[n] er: i have dma enabled now, thanks for your help on that05:05
idefix_ok I executed apt-get update...05:05
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Pygicratell: don't restart your computer for every little change :)05:05
idefix_it lists three get's05:06
bur[n] erspiderworm: sure, at least once totem plays, it'll be fast ;)05:06
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gnomefreakidefix_,  if no errors its a good thing05:06
Pygiidefix: it lists nothing :) just wait :)05:06
spiderwormdvd experts are few and far between in this community.... maybe i should go into #debian05:06
Phocionhey whats the apt command to install a DEB package directly from an HTTP server?05:06
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idefix_I got two W: and one E:05:06
idefix_couldn't stat source package list05:06
idefix_and some index files failed to download05:06
bur[n] erPhocion: wget http://www.blah.com/blah.deb && sudo dpkg -i blah.deb05:06
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Phocionahhhh ok thanks man05:07
pl_icespiderworm u need the 2nd lib not 1st05:07
gnomefreakso thats how you use wget :(05:07
bur[n] erPhocion: you could also just do "apt-get install blah"05:07
Pygiburner: but doing that he must resolve dependencies on his own I am afraid :/05:07
Pygignomefreak: hehe :)05:07
spiderwormpl_ice: i'm sorry?  what do you mean?05:07
Phocionyea but it doesnt show up on the search list05:07
bur[n] erPygi: sudo apt-get -f install usually works ;)05:07
|Lestat|anyone know of a good resource for finding out how to get my wireless network to initalize at bootup? :)05:07
bur[n] erPhocion: got universe and multiverse?05:07
Pygiburner: yes, yes :P05:07
MalachiWhat program can play .asx radio streams?05:08
bur[n] er|Lestat|: add "auto eth1" or whatever your eth# is to your /etc/network/interfaces file05:08
pl_icespiderworm totem's libs got nothing to do with it. ... css ver 205:08
gnomefreaki hate that command it reminds me of the hell i went through :(05:08
Phocionbur[n] er: whats that? .....im retty new with ubuntu05:08
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bur[n] erMalachi: mozilla-mplayer if through a web browser05:08
spiderwormpl_ice: right, i have libdvdcss2 installed05:08
Pygignomefreak: heh? with wget? :/05:08
bur[n] erubotu: tell Phocion about repos05:08
MalachiNot through a browser.05:08
bur[n] erPhocion: check yer msgs05:08
AMD_Is it possible to 'browse' network shares on another computer?05:08
bur[n] erMalachi: totem ;)05:08
pl_icespiderworm then what it says? i had few problems with it, re install it (complete removal) don't add the ver 105:08
MalachiMm.05:08
bur[n] erMalachi: mplayer should do it too if your totem is toast05:08
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Belboz99Okay, I told it to show the disabled sources, but I don't see the Community Maintained (Universe) entries05:08
PygiAMD: Windows or Ubuntu computers ? :)05:09
Phocionsweet thanks bur[n] er...i'll check that out05:09
AMD_Pygi: samba shares :)05:09
Belboz99I'm using 5.10 IIRC05:09
bur[n] erBelboz99: did you "refresh" repositories?  or apt-get update?05:09
spiderwormpl_ice: im pretty sure i dont have libdvdcss v 1 installed at all but i will double check05:09
bur[n] erPhocion: np... the wiki is your friend ;)05:09
PygiAMD: well, use Places ---> Network servers I suppose :P05:09
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zwnjThe directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.12-10) does not match your running05:09
zwnjkernel (version 2.6.12-10-686).  Even if the module were to compile05:09
zwnjsuccessfully, it would not load into the running kernel.05:09
AMD_Pygi: oh ;) cool05:09
AMD_Pygi: and what about windows shares ?05:10
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zwnjwhat should i do to make it work?05:10
Belboz99bur[n] er, doing that now05:10
bur[n] erAMD_: same place05:10
PygiAMD: the same :)05:10
pl_icespiderworm css2 1.2.9-1plf3, that what i got05:10
AMD_oh :)  thought there was something 'different' about 'em05:10
AMD_:)05:10
spiderwormpl_ice: where do i find the version number?05:10
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PygiAMD: :P05:10
pl_icespiderworm got it off synaptic05:10
spiderwormah05:10
toshIm setting up an ADSL modem using USB, the line is detected so the module is working, I created pap-secrets and if-cfg-ppp0, but what do I need to actually ppp dial the connection?05:10
spiderwormpl_ice: only command line access here05:11
Belboz99Okay, I'm able to apt-get install wine finnaly05:11
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|Lestat|bur[n] er: i have it added in there, i changed all instances of eth0 to wlan0, but it still isnt up when i boot up. (i have been having alot of trouble with these dongles tonight)05:11
AMD_here's something from the windows world that i got used to.  When i would give focus to another text area in windows, the entire text box string would be highlighted.  Possible in gnome ?05:11
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Belboz99anyone know if Filezilla FTP Server runs well on wine?05:12
Belboz99or if there's something better?05:12
yatesyerr install a native ftp daemon?05:12
pl_icespiderworm hm, unintall it, then install again, it worked (even when it showed to me that it was installed etc )05:12
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Firefox_Rulezhi05:13
spiderwormpl_ice: what repo are you getting it off of?05:13
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Pygihi hi05:13
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djroadstarhello05:13
djroadstari have a question05:13
Pygifire away05:13
pl_icespiderworm hm, not sure :) how do i check it w/o install again?05:13
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djroadstarafter the install, the first reboot there is a problem with the hotplug subsystem05:14
Seveaspl_ice, apt-cache policy05:14
pl_icek05:14
djroadstarit,s won't boot.....05:14
Pygioh, Seveas is back :P05:14
Belboz99okay, why don't I have permission to view my own hard drive partitions?05:14
existanceI'm trying to reinstall grub from a liveCD, where do i mount boot if it's on the same drive as root (i.e. when i run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda it can't find /boot)05:14
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SeveasPygi, ?05:14
PygiSeveas: just ignore :05:14
Pygi:P05:14
Belboz99I've got a FAT32 that I'm using to share files between by OS'es05:14
djroadstarnope05:15
Seveas /ignore Pygi all05:15
djroadstari let him took the hol harddisk05:15
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_drakencan someone help me bridge two network cards ?05:15
trappistexistance: you mount the whole hda05:15
_drakencan someone help me bridge two network cards ?05:15
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pl_icespiderworm   500 http://antesis.freecontrib.org breezy/free Packages05:15
trappistexistance: and chroot to it05:15
pl_ice        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status05:15
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existancetrappist, so mount /dev/hda ?05:15
spiderwormpl_ice: ty, will add that repo and try that libdvdcss205:15
existance!grub05:15
ubotugrub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting05:15
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spiderwormi might have to unintall and reinstall libdvdread3 if this doesnt work05:16
pl_icemy website works :)05:16
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existancetrappist, I'm going off the RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows link05:16
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djroadstari have just fresh installed ubuntu 10.5 on my laptop, but after the install the hotplug subsystem don,t want to start05:17
gnomefreak5.10?05:17
Dr_Willisdjroadstar,  what kind of laptop and cpu?05:17
ph8When my friend starts ubuntu he gets a nice little graphical screen where all the filesystem checks/network config/clock synchronisation that usually happens on startup appears (the usual about 20-30 lines of initiations) - on mine it's not graphical at all it's all just plain text, any ideas how to turn this feature on?05:17
Pygidjroadster: 5.10 I suppose :)05:17
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Seveasph8, put your menu.lst on the pastebin05:17
ph8will do, cheers05:18
trappistexistance: if it tells you different, I guess follow it.  I usually mount / in /mnt/hda, mount --bind /dev /mnt/hda/dev, mount --bind /proc /mnt/hda/proc, chroot /mnt/hda and work from there05:18
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Dr_Willisph8,  thats a feature i normally disable. :P i perfer the nice text messages.05:18
ph8K tnk ,05:18
ph8oops, mistype05:18
Belboz99okay, apparently /dev/sda9 is already mounted in /media/sda9, but how come I don't have permission to access it?05:18
ph8I think features are quiet/splash05:18
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djroadstari,v got a asus av3c with centrino cpu05:18
afiefWhat is ubuntu belowZero????05:18
Seveasph8, ok, if splash is enabled there: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)05:19
mike__any recommendations for a program to just play wav files that i get in email?05:19
Seveasand make sure you run breezy ;)05:19
Seveasafief, the most recent Ubuntu conference05:19
Dr_Willismike__,  xmms perhaps.05:19
mike__Dr_Willis, it won't play it05:19
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it4ngoMATIS : please don't write in CAPS it looks like you are shouting05:19
ph8ah cheers i tried reconfigure usplash the other day05:19
djroadstari,v tryed the 5.1005:19
existancetrappist, that's more or less what it says to do, with some deprecated commands anyway.  I did that and when i run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda it says could not find device for /boot05:19
spiderwormpl_ice: whats the line in your /etc/apt/sources.list file for the antesis.freecontrib.org repo, please?05:19
Dr_Willismike__,  its possible the .wav is messed up then im, not about to do this "try this,, oh that dont work?" game :P05:19
idefix_seveas? have I been banned too? I was honorable lately05:20
Seveasidefix_, ?05:20
Belboz99why are all my HDD partitions listed at being owned by root?05:20
idefix_I was banned too a couple of times05:20
pl_ice!pastebin05:20
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:20
trappistexistance: you did a mount --bind /dev /mnt/hda/dev and chrooted to /mnt/hda?05:20
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Pygibelboz: maybe because ubuntu setup does that way? :)05:20
bobwhow can i get my usb mouse to work05:20
Seveasidefix_, no idea about that, may have been another operator05:21
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bobwi just plugged it in and it dosent work05:21
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mike__!repositories05:21
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource05:21
mike__!easysource05:21
ubotueasysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:21
existancetrappist, mm, what fs do i give for a harddrive?05:21
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pl_icespiderworm http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/633305:21
trappistexistance: sorry, I meant (for example) /dev/hda1 - partitions, not hard drives05:22
s1gnAlis there a default root password for new installs?05:22
existancetrappist, oh, then yea05:22
trappists1gnAl: no.  you use sudo, with your own password.05:22
Seveas!tell s1gnAl about root05:22
_drakencan someone help me, as i press adminisator Mode on stuff, i type password but nothing happens ?05:22
existancetrappist, they used mount -o bind /dev /mnt/hda/dev though05:22
gnomefreakubotu tell s1gnAl  about rootsudo05:22
s1gnAlthankyou :)05:23
gnomefreakyw05:23
ph8Seveas: Is "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...05:23
trappistexistance: never heard of that one.  does it work?05:23
ph8" pertinent?05:23
ph8during the reconfig05:23
gnomefreak_draken, did you install ubuntu on that pc?05:23
idefix_hmm, there are quite a few packages05:23
Seveasph8, that's a different splash image :)05:23
existancetrappist, yea i can chroot in fine05:23
spiderwormthank you pl_ice , very helpful05:23
_drakenkubuntu05:23
ph8k05:23
ph8will reboot and find out if it worked05:23
ph8nothing else i need to do?05:23
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trappistexistance: but do /dev and /proc look like you expect?05:23
gnomefreak_draken, you installed it right?05:23
mevvishi05:24
_drakenya05:24
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john__can anyone help me with cedega (demo)05:24
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mevviswhy demo?05:24
trappistjohn__: somebody can probably answer a specific question, if you ask it05:24
Dr_WillisCedega has a Demo?05:24
existancehmm, nope, liveCD thinks the hd is hde, but my ubuntu installation says its hda, and in /dev its hde..05:25
gnomefreak_draken, the user name and password you set during install is what should allow you to access to do things05:25
mevvis:)05:25
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idefix_there are quite a few packages but webcam is not one of them05:25
pl_iceunless u pay for cedega Dr_Willis  ... :)05:25
gnomefreakso when it asks for password that user password would be the one to use05:25
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existancetrappist, I've sort of had this problem when I installed ubuntu at first.  Grub used hde in it's commands and I had to change them to hda before it would work05:25
john__I installed it and installed battlefield two, not instead of exiting out of cedega after it was all installed I closed Terminal which closed cedega, now when I click on the Cedega launch in other applications I get the launch screen for subscribe and play, I click play and nothing happens except that window closes? Any ideas?05:25
trappistexistance: wow. I assume you have an offboard ide card or an onboard raid controller or something.05:25
mike__is there some special codec to listen to wav files on linux?05:25
mike__mplayer, xmms, etc won't play these wav files05:26
trappistexistance: try booting the livecd with 'ide=reverse'05:26
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pl_icejohn__ first, find out on cedega's w.page if that game is compatible ...05:26
john__yes it is05:26
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john__very compatible05:26
existancetrappist, so 'boot ide=reverse' at the livecd startup?05:26
john__but its installed ok05:26
idefix_what's the difference betwee multiverse and universe?05:26
john__its cedega itself I can get to open05:26
john__i mean can't05:26
pl_icejohn__ maybe due to demo ver? ...05:27
trappistexistance: I think it's 'linux ide=reverse' but I've never used the ubuntu livecd so I'm not sure.05:27
gnomefreakidefix_,  different packages05:27
s1gnAlholy crap this distro rocks!05:27
john__pl_ice not much point in a demo if it doesnt work05:27
s1gnAl<-- first time ubuntu user05:27
existancetrappist, eh, I guess I'll probe around the help file in there if it doesn't work. Be back in a bit hopefully.05:27
Pygis1gnAL: hehe :)05:27
pl_icejohn__ yeh :)05:27
s1gnAlauto updates, gnome desktop hell yea!05:27
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Seveass1gnAl, welcome :)05:27
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s1gnAlGOODBYE GENTOO!!!!!05:28
john__I think it is because I closed terminal which forced cedega to shutdown after running it the first time05:28
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jared2 /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Thane05:28
john__but I dont know where cedega is installed05:28
pl_icebored i might just change OS of my ipod :)05:28
john__dont know any commands for it nor nothin05:28
mike__jared2, oops?05:28
Pygis1gnAl: oh, the gentoo thingy :P05:28
pl_icejared2 oppppssss ....05:28
john__all I do know is that it is installed, bf2 is installed on it ok but cedega will not run05:28
Pygihoh05:28
Dr_Willisjohn__,  the command is like 'cedega' :P i think..05:28
gnomefreakjared2, its better if you do that in the server tab05:28
jared2That's I nice one huh?05:28
Seveasjared2, /msg nickserv set password new_password05:28
Dr_Willismay want to rerun the cedega demo installer..05:28
jared2Seveas: Thanks :D05:28
idefix_lmgts Email uses 0 packages, Email (universe) uses 1 package and Email (multiverse) more than 1?05:29
john__Dr_Willis, will it removed the game I installed?05:29
Dr_Willisjohn__,  no clue..05:29
Dr_Willisjohn__,  i doubt it however.05:29
mike__anyone know why xmms, mplayer, etc won't play these wav files my boss sent me? they're wavs from a pbx from voicemail and sent to me internally i doubt they're corrupted05:29
jared2I got a space before the  backslash...05:29
Dr_Willismike__,  try 'file whatever.wav' see what it says they are05:29
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gnomefreakidefix_, no universe has one type of mail client and multiverse has a different05:30
trappistmike__: run 'file' on them and see what you get.  if that looks normal try the 'play' command.05:30
gnomefreakidefix_,  take a look at the hardware site05:30
jared2but now that I have everyone's attention... I have a question regarding "Connect to Remote Server"05:30
ovehhow do i make linux see hidden files on a cd?05:30
gnomefreakno i lied05:30
jared2where does it mount the drives?05:30
gnomefreaklook at packages.ubuntu.com05:30
Dr_Willisoveh,  Hmm what 'hidden' files?05:30
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y_o_uhello all. just got kubuntu up yesterday, trying to get wireless PCI card working. trying to install ndiswrapper. going along with the attached "readme" with the install, it is telling me to type "make uninstall" and "make", but when i type that in the konsole, it tells me "bash: make: command not found". why? thanks05:30
mike__trappist, msg0000.WAV: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, GSM 6.10, mono 8000 Hz05:30
jared2and can I move those icons off my desktop somehow?05:30
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mike__play: command not found05:31
gnomefreaky_o_u,  install build-essential05:31
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y_o_ugnomefreak, how do i do that?05:31
trappistoveh: add 'unhide' to the options part in /etc/fstab05:31
ovehDr_Willis: i'm installing office2003 with crossover office and it says me cd rom isn't configured correctly05:32
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gnomefreaksudo apt-get install build-essential05:32
Pygiyou: gksudo apt-get install build-essential05:32
ovehtrappist: ok, trying it05:32
trappistoveh: crossover office used to fix that for you05:32
Pygignomefreak: gksudo, gksudo, gksudo :)05:32
trappistoveh: maybe if you don't mount it yourself, it still does05:32
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mike__trappist, play command not found05:32
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ph8cheers Seveas that sorted it right out(!), two further questions. Now that I have this splash screen how can I change it to something cooler/change fonts or anything if at all? And what was the splash screen reconfigure referred to? ;)05:32
trappistmike__: esdplay?05:32
spiderwormhey how do i list open ports on my box.... command line?05:32
gnomefreakPygi, i thought gksudo was for editing not installing05:33
john__Anyone here use cedega 5?05:33
mike__not found05:33
Dr_Willisjohn__,  i use the actual comercial version.05:33
nalioth!gksudo05:33
ubotuI guess gksudo is Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root priveleges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.05:33
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y_o_ugnomefreak, how to install build-essential?05:33
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naliothy_o_u: use synaptic05:33
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Pyginalioth: using shortcuts :)05:33
john__Dr_Willis, so do you think it could be because I closed terminal which forced cedega to close during first use of the program?05:33
Seveasph8, you can change the artwork but it's not easy (you need to compile it in a specfic format). The splash that the reconfigure refered to is the grub splash (ie: graphical background in grub menu)05:33
john__Dr_Willis, how do you launch cedega?05:33
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gnomefreaknalioth,  thats what i was saying its used to run apps not install them :(05:34
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mike__trappist, neither found05:34
y_o_unalioth: i am a linux noob, i have no idea what synaptic is. is there a howto somewhere?05:34
Dr_Willisjohn__,  it used to add a menu entry called "Point2Play" - or with 5.0+ ya just run the command 'cedega'05:34
Pygiyou:  System --> Administration --> Synaptic package manager05:34
trappistmike__: what does mplayer say when you try to play it?05:34
gnomefreaky_o_u,  open system>admin>synaptic package manager05:34
Dr_Willisjohn__,  cedega 5.0 changted a lot of things.. and annoyed a lot of people.05:35
mike__trappist, bad stream05:35
psusiy_o_u: spend 5 seconds looking around your desktop menus... you will find synaptic there which is a program you can use to install or remove packages05:35
y_o_uthank you05:35
trappistmike__: sudo apt-get install sound-clients, then esdplay05:35
trappistmike__: err, make that 'esound-clients'05:36
mike__okay thanks05:36
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idefix_they always stay with me, the old man said when he was talking about his two kids05:36
trappistmike__: if all else fails, cat filename.wav > /dev/dsp05:36
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john__Dr_Willis, how do ya runt he command?05:36
psusimike__: how long are these files?  maybe they only contain 1 second of silence?05:37
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ph8cheers Seveas05:37
Dr_Willisjohn__,  err.. i open up a shell and type 'cedega' if i recall...05:37
ph8While you're here.. ;)05:37
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naliothubotu: tell y_o_u about synaptic05:37
ph8Are you aware of the problem that a few widescreen laptop users have with fonts?05:37
ph8Mine are just too large, all the time05:37
ph8i can't alter the ones in the menu etc either05:37
john__Dr_Willis, dont work for me, maybes I am closing it wrong each time I install and setup software05:37
y_o_unalioth: thanks05:37
ph8I think i read someone had a similar problem on the forums somewhere05:37
john__Dr_Willis, which is really weird05:37
xiaogilhow to have the console in english ? LANG=???05:37
ph8If you haven't heard about it i'll browse there?05:38
trappistph8: I follow the "font deuglification howto" to a certain extent for every new install05:38
john__Dr_Willis, I can't even see the folder in home, maybes I need to chmod something?05:38
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Dr_Willisjohn__,  no clue.. it may of needed to set some initial demo user in its configs.05:38
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trappistDr_Willis: may of?05:38
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mwexiaogil: en_US or en_UK should work05:39
ph8http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=445605:39
ph8This one?05:39
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rabbithi, does anyone here use mail-notification for gmail?05:39
Dr_Willistrappist,  or they made a special demo version that dont do it taht way.. never messed with the 'demo' version of cedega at all.05:39
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trappistDr_Willis: I meant to point out that it's "may have"05:40
Dr_Willisthe info on the 'demo' version is a little light also.05:40
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Pygignomefreak: heh, what's google? :)05:40
gnomefreakrabbit,  what do you need ? the server?05:40
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Dr_Willistrappist,  it may of wanted him to fill out some form also. :P05:40
MalachiMplayer won't install: says I doesn't like my version of gcc.05:40
mwerabbit: I use the one for FF05:40
trappistsigh.05:40
MalachiWhat should I do?05:40
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Dr_Willistrappist,  run the demo and see :P   thats what im about to do. Lol.05:40
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rabbitgnomefreak:  I want a gmail notifier..    mail-notification isn't working for me05:40
gnomefreak!google05:40
ubotugoogle is, like, a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.05:40
trappistMalachi: it does not say "I doesn't like my version of gcc"05:40
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rabbitmwe: what's FF?05:40
mike__Dr_Willis, can i send you this file to see if you can hear it?05:41
Pygignomefreak: ok, you didn't have to do that :P05:41
john__Dr_WIllis, I installed it, exitted ok and it wont run and the command cedega does not work but the transgaming drive does exist now05:41
Malachitrappist: =) Sorry. Hold on...05:41
flogistonIs there a way to optimese settings for the ATI drivers?05:41
trappistflogiston: sudo fglrxconfig05:41
pl_icerabbit , not hex format ? ....05:41
Malachitrappist: It says I need version 3.x but I have 4.0.205:41
trappistflogiston: if by ati drivers you mean the drivers from ato05:41
Dr_Willismike__,  i dont have a linux box with any sound,. and i cant get dcc sends either.. so that wont do any good.05:41
trappist*ati05:41
gnomefreakrabbit,  i use gmail-notifier so im not sure how that one is set up but make sure you have the name and password right if it asks for servers make sure you have those right too05:41
trappistMalachi: first, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.405:41
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flogistonI mean the fglrx drivers that you install from synaptic.05:42
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cratel1trappist: I think I read that the fglrx drivers don't play nice with suspend and hibernate. Do you know anything about this?05:42
rabbitpl_ice: hex format for what? where?05:42
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gnomefreakgmail-notifier i type in username and password and it works :)05:42
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Insaniacan someone help me, if i unplug my cdrom, or plug my windows hdd in, grub doesnt want to boot05:42
Insaniagives error 17] 05:42
pl_icerabbit FF ? ... hex numbering ... ?05:42
trappistcratel1: it may be true.  I run them on a laptop, but I don't bother with suspend and hibernate.05:42
Pygicratell: no, they are bad especially with hibernate :/05:42
Seveascratel1, the latest fglrx drivers are fine05:43
john__Dr_Willis, got it working! used terminal to go to the transgaming cedega folder in home and used ./ on the demo05:43
Seveasthey hibernate like a charm05:43
trappistSeveas: excellent news05:43
Seveas(and even resume ;))05:43
PygiSeveas: hm, probably, I don't use lastest version ;/05:43
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trappistmaybe I *will* play with some apm goodness05:43
rabbitpl_ice:   mwe said he "uses the one for FF"   I don't knwo what he meant05:43
ubuntu_trappist, I used 'ide=reverse' but the liveCD's /dev still uses hde.  I mounted and chrooted into my partition without binding dev, can I use grub-install like that?05:43
Insaniacan someone help me, if i unplug my cdrom, or plug my windows hdd in, grub doesnt want to boot05:43
Insaniagives error 17] 05:43
MalachiNeeds some dependencies.05:43
PygiSeveas: thanks for the info tho :)05:43
SeveasPygi, I have debs of them if you're interested :)05:43
arbaalohey, got a problem05:43
Malachitrappist: I'll have to do it later...05:43
rabbitmwe he or she, sorry05:43
trappistubuntu_: 'fraid not. you won't have a usable /dev or /proc, and grub-install will cry.05:44
PygiSeveas: hehe, sure :)05:44
flogistonWhich are the latest fglrx?05:44
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cratel1trappist, Seveas, Pygi: I was going to try fglrx to try to save on power consumption. Is this a good idea? I don't care about the 3d performance...05:44
ubuntu_trappist, it said no BIOS drive :(05:44
trappistMalachi: you could always just apt-get install it *shrug*05:44
arbaaloi installed 5.10 and updated all which was to update, and now grub don't see my windows partition at start05:44
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pl_icerabbit google hexadecimal system05:44
naliothcratel1: if you want powersavings, use VESA driver05:44
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gnomefreakubotu tell arbaalo about grub05:44
Malachitrappist: It's locked...installing Open Office 2.005:44
trappistcratel1: if you don't care about 3d performance, I can't think of a good reason to install fglrx.  but I don't know what if any impact it will have on power consumption.05:44
rabbitpl_ice:  I'm not sure what I need to do here05:44
ubuntu_trappist, would manually configuring it work?05:44
ubuntu_!grub05:45
ubotuwell, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting05:45
PygiSeveas: when you get time, send them over or somethin' :P05:45
trappistubuntu_: it still needs a device to install to... and come to think of it, there's no reason you can't install it to /dev/hde05:45
arbaalothx, i'll look05:45
gnomefreakyw05:45
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pl_icedon't know05:45
cratel1nalioth: will the VESA driver work okay for playing videos and that sort of thing? I want some hardware accelleration. I just don't need 3d.05:45
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existancetrappist, ah.. forgot to /nick :/05:45
trappistexistance: heh.05:46
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existancetrappist, so i should bind dev and proc and try grub-install with /dev/hde ?05:46
Seveas!tell Pygi about Seveas05:47
trappistexistance: yeah05:47
naliothcratel1: try it. if you dont like it, you can change back to fglrx05:47
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PygiSeveas: hehe :)05:47
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cratel1nalioth: so how do I choose the VESA drivers?05:47
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naliothubotu: tell cratel1 about xcfg05:47
kemik!tell me about xcfg05:48
naliothcratel1: run that command in a terminal and choose the VESA driver05:48
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trappistkemik: /msg ubotu xcfg05:48
naliothubotu: tell kemik about msg the bot05:48
kemikno need guys05:48
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kemikbut it doesnt respond05:48
kemikguess i'm not identified in nickserv05:48
existancetrappist, uh.... I think I got it to work a different way05:48
naliothkemik: you are not identified05:49
Draken2can someone please tell me why i cant fucking get into linux when my cdrom is unplugged or my windows drive is plugged in ?05:49
kemiknow i am05:49
kemik:)05:49
existancetrappist, I ran /sbin/grub and set root and ran setup, and it succeeded05:49
naliothDraken2: watch your language please, it's not helping anything.05:49
trappistexistance: excellent05:49
existancetrappist, this is before i bound dev and proc05:49
cratel1nalioth: I tried the command and I get that xserver-org isn't installed. I look for it in synaptic?05:49
Draken2nalioth, i been asking for last 2 hours05:49
kemikcrap. thought xcfg was a NICE gui way of editing your xorg-conf =)05:49
Draken2noone helps05:49
naliothcratel1: it's xserver-xorg05:49
shammythen no one knows the answer05:49
existancetrappist, mmm, I don't know why that worked but oh well, guess ill try rebooting05:49
trappistDraken2: maybe if you wax obscene it'll help05:50
gnomefreak!someone05:50
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>05:50
naliothDraken2: if nobody knows the answer, do you want us to make stuff up?05:50
gnomefreakthat changed :(05:50
psusiDraken2: probably because you plugged your windows drive in as the primary master, so it becomes the boot drive instead of the linux disk05:50
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kemikDraken2:  probably that you're boot order gets messed  up05:50
Draken2so how do i fix05:50
kemikDraken2:  you'll have to edit your bootsequence in BIOS05:50
psusiDraken2: don't connect your windows drive as the primary master05:50
Draken2...05:50
Draken2psusi05:50
Draken2im not changing anything05:50
Draken2just plugging power back in05:51
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kemikDraken2:  well, you'll have to tell BIOS to boot from wherever GRUB was installed05:51
Draken2how ?05:51
HymnToLifeDraken2 > have you tried reinstalling GRUB ?05:51
PygiSeveas: k, got the deb, thanks05:51
Draken2HymnToLife, the point of that ?05:51
SeveasPygi, read the notice, you need at least 2 debs05:51
HymnToLife!grub05:51
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting05:51
kemikDraken2:  check your motherboard manual05:52
PygiSeveas: read, no worry :)05:52
Phocionhey all one more problem.  I installed NX Server successfully but cannot connect to it on port 22.  I read Ubuntu doesn't have a firewall to block ports.  What's the problem?05:52
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Draken2kemik, im not changing the ide cable dude05:52
Dr_WillisNX server uses port 22?05:52
trappistPhocion: ssh listens on 2205:52
naliothPhocion: are you using a router?05:52
kemikDraken2:  you dont have to05:52
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Draken2im just taking the power cable out of cdrom05:52
Phocionit tunnels through SSH05:52
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Phocionit tunnels through SSH05:52
SeveasDr_Willis, nx server is not a real server but uses the ssh server :)05:53
Morrowynubuntu and nvidia is evil05:53
Draken2how would that stop gurb from doing its job05:53
Phocionwhy would it be blocking port 22?05:53
trappistPhocion: can you ssh to that machine?05:53
Morrowyni installed everything , everything works fine, now after power down andboot x wont start on me05:53
Phocionnope05:53
Dr_WillisSeveas,  this is 'freenx' ? ive heard of it.. but never actually used it.05:53
trappistPhocion: what does `iptables-save` give you?  nothing? lines and lines?05:53
SeveasDr_Willis, it rocks :)05:53
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Phocioni do have a router but im connecting from inside the network05:54
Phociontrappist lemme check 1 sec05:54
Dr_WillisSeveas,  but i tend to do XP->linux type things.. so i use vnc. or is there a NX for xp also?05:54
Seveasyep05:54
Seveasit's MUCH better than vnc05:54
Draken2kemik ?05:54
mike__how can i convert wavs to mp3s?05:54
Seveasmike__, transcoe, mencoder05:54
naliothmike__: grip05:54
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Phocionit is much better than TightVNC05:54
kemikDraken2:  what happens when you unplug the CD? nothing at all? any error msg?05:55
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Phociontrappist: iptables-save shows nothing05:55
Bjoern-Erikmike__: By using an mp3-encoder. And LAME is by far the superior one.05:55
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Draken2kemik05:55
trappistPhocion: so it's not a firewall issue.  can you connect to the machine any other way? ping?  is anything listening on port 22 on that interface? (netstat -ntlp)05:56
Draken2error message05:56
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kemikDraken2:  what does it say?05:56
renato\j #ubuntu-br05:56
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Phocionhmmmmm `ps aux | grep nxserver` doesnt show the nxserver service running05:56
Draken2error 21, then if i take the power cable from cdrom into the windows hdd, error becomes error 1705:56
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trappistPhocion: are you sure the process is called nxserver?  maybe just grep for nx05:56
idefix_how many versions of linux are there?05:57
Phocionyea nothing.....05:57
Phocioni can ping the machine05:57
Seveasthere is NO resident nxserver process...05:57
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Seveascan you ssh to the machine Phocion ?05:57
fmasiHi i like to know hod do i restart my sound sytem becouse i tryng to figure out how to make my skype whork fine (its making bugy sounds or even whorst says ther is a soud problem)05:57
Phocionlemme try05:57
kemikDraken2:  try recovering grub then05:58
PhocionSeveas: Nope :/05:58
Draken2ker05:58
idefix_where is the grep command for?05:58
idefix_it grabs something?05:58
SeveasPhocion, is  the ssh server installed?05:58
Draken2kemik, with install cd ?05:58
Phociondoes it not come installed by default?05:58
idefix_where do I send money?05:58
SeveasPhocion, did you install freenx using ubuntu packages?05:58
stoneageidefix_: finding patterns in data streams05:58
PhocionSeveas: Yes with APT05:58
SeveasPhocion, from which repository?05:59
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Phocioner no not FreeNX05:59
Phocionthe trial version of NonFreeNX05:59
kemik!grub05:59
ubotugrub is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting05:59
Phocionheh05:59
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SeveasPhocion, we cannot support that, being closed source.05:59
jankoxphow is the default ubuntu root password???05:59
Seveas!tell jankoxp about root05:59
rabbitwhen navigating directories in the console the prompt is pre-pended by your current location.  Is is possible to truncate this so that it only shows the most recent directory instead of the full path??  (I can just use pwd if I need to know the full path)05:59
Phocionim currently using my wlan0 interface with ndiswrapper...could that be a problem?05:59
rabbit*the current directory I meant ("most recent")06:00
mike__i need to get these wav files played, if i have to install windows just to hear a wav file its going to suck06:00
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MalachiInstalled OpenOffice 2.0; should I get rid of the other version? And how?06:00
Seveasrabbit, man bash :)06:00
kemik*gone*06:00
flogistonWhat command do i use when i want to se out put from the mouse?06:00
PhocionSeveas: Does ssh not come installed by default???06:00
rabbitSeveas: heh, thanks06:00
Seveas(yes it is possible, you need to set an environment variable ;))06:00
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SeveasPhocion, no06:00
Phociondoh!!!!06:00
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Phocionwell then06:00
Phocionmaybe i should go install that06:01
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MalachiBe right back...06:01
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existanceAnyone know of a good mySQL tutorial?06:01
idefix_finding patterns in data streams, but not in files06:01
idefix_sources.list grep uncomment06:01
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idefix_mand not found06:01
karlanis there any easy way to search for a file not using the Terminal?06:01
fmasiSome could help me whith skype06:01
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Seveasidefix_, wtf are you rambling?06:02
idefix_the grep command06:02
idefix_it is to find a pattern in data streams06:02
existancekarlan, why don't you want to use the terminal?06:02
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idefix_isn't rambling like telling a lot of info per second of stuff you know everything about?06:02
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idefix_I don't know anything about the grep command (yet)06:03
Seveasrambling is talking crap06:03
mcphailfmasi: just tell us the problem06:03
flogistonI'm setting up fglrx and it askes for path to the mouse device. How do i know which i should chose?06:03
idefix_what is babbling then?06:03
Seveasread the manpage for grep if you want to know more about it06:03
idefix_but in dilbert it is a techno-babble06:03
existanceidefix_, it's a synonym..06:03
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skonAnyone know how in Gnome to make a startup program automatically go to a different desktop?06:03
jankoxp--------------------pls write me default root password----------------------06:04
naliothubotu: tell jankoxp about root06:04
Seveasjankoxp, ubotu already gave you the info06:04
Pygijankoxp: there is no root pass....root is disabled by default06:04
Seveasand don't be a nuisance06:04
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fmasimcphail when i call some one useing skype after some few sconds i lost all comunication becouse it starts doing some bugy weard sounds and then i can hear enny one and dont know if they hear me06:04
idefix_ok, so ramble and babble is all nonsense06:04
trappistidefix_: and offtopic.06:04
idefix_ohoh06:05
Seveasidefix_, stop being offtopic in here06:05
existanceis there a command to see how much free space there is left?06:05
Seveasexistance, df -h06:05
mcphailfmasi: don't know if it will help for this one, but try skype_dsp_hijacker06:05
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gnomefreak#ubuntu-offtopic :)06:05
fmasii try to chang stuf in multimidia system selector and dasent sem to inprouve the thng is that now my skype whont whork at all it says soud problem when i try to call some one06:05
existanceSeveas, thanks06:05
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karlanexistance, i want a graphic search like in windows06:05
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existancekarlan, why though?06:05
Seveaskarlan, try beagle06:05
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karlanexistance, why not?06:06
mcphailfmasi: you can find it in Seveas's repository06:06
karlanSeveas, thx06:06
fmasimcphail the thing is my mp3 are fine and gizmo too06:06
Kindredkarlan, Places > Search for files, works too.06:06
existancekarlan, because as you are finding, you have to find it06:06
cratel1anybody know about "Dynamic Clocks?" --- power saving for ATI cards: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_use_of_Graphics_Chips_Power_Management_features#Power_saving_with_a_framebuffer_console06:06
skonAnybody konw how to startup a program on a specific workspace?06:06
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Sh4d0xhi all06:07
mcphailfmasi: try what i said above re: skype_dsp_hijacker06:07
karlanKindred, where?06:07
mike__please help me figure out how to play these wav files, i have to install windows if i cant06:07
mootsexcuse me, but where do i go to ask a question?06:07
Sh4d0xcan someone explain me the "make" part?06:07
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jankoxp-------------- how I set root password??? -------------06:07
fmasimcphail ok06:07
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fmasimcphail thx06:07
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naliothjankoxp: read your private msg from ubotu06:07
Pygijanoxp: stop it06:07
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mcphailfmasi: np06:07
naliothubotu: tell mike__ about mp306:07
trappistthat is extraordinarily obnoxious06:07
naliothmike you install the mp3 libs and you can use grip06:07
radawayHey guys I am not a ubuntu person, but I am helping one, I need to know what do you guys use for module autoloading when the computer starts06:08
Seveasmoots, in here :)06:08
Kindredkarlan, the main menu, Applications Places System..  (in gnome..)06:08
Seveasradaway, hotplug, udev06:08
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jankoxphello06:08
fmasimcphail i lost my source.list file could you tel me how to get seveas rep06:08
karlanKindred, lol, never saw that one before ;D06:08
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radawaySeveas, thanks but I don't want it to detect it for me, I want to say load this specific module everytime you start06:08
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mcphailfmasi: Seveas is on the channel. He should be able to give you the url. Don't know it off the top of my head.06:09
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naliothSeveas: they've found us.06:09
Seveasradaway, /etc/modules06:09
Seveasnalioth, ?06:09
tuskerninihi all06:09
Seveasah, spambots06:09
radawaySeveas, just type the name of the module there?06:09
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fmasiSeveas what is the url for your rep06:09
Seveasradaway, yeah, add it to that file06:09
radawaySeveas, Thanks!06:10
Seveas!tell fmasi about Seveas06:10
tuskerninii have a sound problem, how do i check my settings in breezy?06:10
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tuskerniniit seems like everything is installed and the players like xmms looks like they work, just no sound out of the line out..06:10
Sh4d0xseems there is an webcom libic for the linux instant messengers, i want to install it but it must be installed with the "make" command. when i try it sais "bash: make is not a valid command" can some help me06:11
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naliothSh4d0x: join #kubuntu-offtopic06:11
erUSULSh4d0x, install build-essential06:11
qwertyhello06:11
qwertyi have a problem06:11
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mike__i get a lot of this06:11
mike__libvisual WARNING: no progname: visual_plugin_get_list(): Failed to add the /usr/lib/libvisual/input directory to the plugin registry06:11
uber_spacedevery once in a while, something weird happens on my ubuntu install where I cant ping localhost06:11
qwertyi installed ubuntu and installed grub on MBR06:12
Sh4d0xerUSUL build-essential?06:12
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qwertyi now get an error of #1506:12
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qwertywhat should i do06:12
Sh4d0xnalioth: kubuntu?? off-topic?? :s06:12
skonqwerty: a little more information would be helpful06:12
jankoxpSeveas, thanks for help ;)06:12
psusiqwerty: what did you change to cause this to break?06:12
uber_spacedi ran an /sbin/ifconfig and it showed that my external interface had no IP address, so I ran /etc/init.d/network restart, and now it does have an address, but I still cant ping localhost.06:12
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cratel1I edited my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and now it isn't being read. I undid my changes but still I seem to have broken something. How do I troubleshoot?06:13
qwertyi didnt change anything06:13
qwertyi did put slackware on another partition though06:13
uber_spacedwhenever this happens, rebooting seems to fix it, but I dont want to reboot to fix the issue.06:13
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radawayuber_spaced, do you have "127.0.0.1    localhost"in your /etc/hosts file?06:13
ubuntu_hi06:14
uber_spacedradaway, yeppers.06:14
Badm4nany2 can tellme how to set/configure my postfix ubuntu 5.10 ?06:14
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radawayuber_spaced, odd maybe it's udev eating your loop device06:14
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psusiqwerty: that would ne changing something now wouldn't it?  so slackware broke grub... try reinstalling it from the ubuntu setup cd06:14
nandrohi all, anyone able to give me a quick answer on if what I am trying to do is possible?06:14
qwertypsusi: i didnt change anything, but i did install slackware on a nother partition06:14
Markus_Panybody familiar with recovering grub after reinstalling windows06:14
erUSULnandro, just ask06:15
psusiqwerty: installing slackware definately qualifies as changing something06:15
erUSUL!ask06:15
gnomefreakubotu tell Markus_P  about grub06:15
uber_spacedradaway, well, it's not in there exactly how you've written it; it's like:06:15
qwertyokay06:15
skonMarkus_P: just put the ubuntu disc in and skip to the grub installation section06:15
uber_spaced127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost myhost06:15
Markus_Pgnomefreak,  i am following that guideline06:15
gnomefreakMarkus_P,  ubotu pmed you with grub info06:15
Markus_Pand it is not working06:15
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rabbitSeveas:  still here?06:15
nandroI have an old pc with a 2.5G HD, and I want to network it with a windows pc running win2000 so I can download torrents to the windows box directly06:15
Markus_Pi've been spending quite a few hours to no avail06:15
existancewhat's the GUI config for fglrx?06:15
qwertyskon: put live disk or install disk06:16
skoninstall disc?06:16
nandroI have had debian see win xp boxes, but for some reason ubuntu has given me problems06:16
robertjwhere does the SERVER variable get set that is used by libpam-mount?06:16
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qwertyokay, ill be back in a minuete06:16
robertjdoes libpam-ldap have some capacity for setting environment variables?06:16
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radawayuber_spaced, that should work06:17
skonI've been trying to figure out how to start up a program to a specific workspace...could someone please help?06:17
uber_spacedradaway, it's resolving to 127.0.0.1;06:17
radawayuber_spaced, yeah that's you06:17
trappistskon: in kde you'd use kstart.  maybe gnome has something similar.06:17
uber_spacedI have apache running and when I do a netstat -tcp, things dont get past SYN_SENT06:17
existancei have two gfx cards/monitors, the main is ATI and the other is nvidia, how can I get fglrx to see the nvidia one?06:17
Morrowynhow do i install a webcam under linux?06:17
radawayuber_spaced, 127.0.0.1 always points to the computer you are running06:18
Markus_Pi tried your suggestion skon06:18
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uber_spacedradaway, yes, I know.06:18
Markus_Pbut it wouldn't take me past the partition process06:18
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olicathas anyone had any luck getting a d-link wireless dls-G604Y wireless router working with ubuntu?06:18
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MrRiohow do i pipe both stdout and stderr into a file?06:18
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qwertywhat would this grub command mean: (hd0,5)06:18
trappistMrRio: man tee06:19
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skonMarkus_P: what do you mean? You should be able to get it to fail and then it'll bring you to a menu where you select hwat part of the installation you want06:19
trappistMrRio: oh hm, misread06:19
Markus_Pi did do that06:19
Markus_Pand it gave me the menu06:19
Markus_Pi chose install grub06:19
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Markus_Pand it just brings me back to the manual partition screen06:19
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rabbitwhen navigating directories in the console the prompt is pre-pended by your current location.  Is is possible to truncate this so that it only shows the current directory instead of the full path??  does it have anything to do with the $OLDPWD variable?06:20
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mike__this is ridiculous, why can i not play these wav files06:20
trappistMrRio: > is to pipe stdout, 2> is for stderr... so maybe 2>&106:20
Markus_Pi' m almost at the point of reinstalling ubuntu06:20
skonMarkus_P: does it say grub was installed successfully?06:20
Markus_Pi've wasted about 4 hours on it06:20
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Markus_Pi've read every tutorial on the net06:20
Markus_Pno06:21
steve__can sommone recoomend a good gui ftp client?06:21
InverseCowHello. :-)06:21
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Markus_Pit doesn't do anything but take me back to the manual partition screen06:21
tenshii cant open .rar files, can someone help me?06:21
No1VikingSeveas, have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6334. Did I do wrong?06:21
kemiksteve__:  gftp perhaps06:21
skonMarkusP: did you try rebooting it after you tried restalling it?06:21
Markus_Pi've also used the suggestion made by ubotu06:21
MrRiotrappist, cheers, ive got this_cmd > combined_results 2>&106:21
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Markus_Pwhich uses the live cd06:22
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Markus_PCould not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.06:22
Markus_Pi get that error when i try to automatically install grub06:22
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Kindredskon, with your workspace problem you might want to look at devilspie, I haven't used it but I think it can do what you want06:22
trappistMrRio: that works?06:22
Markus_Pi am positive that i do not have a boot partition06:22
skonKindred: thanks06:22
khermansI want to have an undetermined var be an argument to a command -- how can I do this?  ie this doesn't work --> echo "myargs" | runthis06:23
tenshii cant open .rar files, can someone help me?06:23
rabbitwhen navigating directories in the console the prompt is pre-pended by your current location.  Is is possible to truncate this so that it only shows the current directory instead of the full path??  does it have anything to do with the $OLDPWD variable?06:23
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khermanstenshi, aptitude install rar06:23
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No1VikingAnyone, have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6334. Did I do wrong?06:23
Markus_Phas anyone here actually reinstalled grub after reinstalling windows?06:23
skontensi: sudo apt get install rar06:23
Dr_Willistenshi,  use the unrar commands from the shell. not the gui archiver tools - perhaps.06:23
tenshithis i tried06:23
Dr_WillisMarkus_P,  yes.. dozens of times.06:23
InverseCowtenshi, Check out this link in the Wiki:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression06:23
tenshibut no such command known06:23
Markus_Pcan you help me please06:23
jackobillwhat's the last kernel for breezy in uptdates?06:23
naliothtenshi: install unrar-nonfree06:23
tenshii installed unrar06:23
Markus_Pplease06:23
existanceMarkus_P, I just did actually06:23
tenshizoh, ok06:23
trappistkhermans: runthis $myargs or for arg in $myargs; do runthis $arg;done06:23
tenshizill try this06:24
existance!grub06:24
ubotuI heard grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting06:24
Dr_WillisMarkus_P,  i spent a day or more reading and learning the ins and outs of GRUB. :P then its easy.06:24
titahola06:24
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MrRiotrappist: yeah works great06:24
Markus_Pi don't want to reinstall a perfectly fine install of ubuntu06:24
Markus_Pme too Dr_Willis06:24
titacomo estan?06:24
titahello06:24
nalioth!es06:24
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:24
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jackobillwhat's the last kernel for breezy in uptdates?06:24
skon2.6.12-10-38606:25
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skon(If that's what your asking)06:25
steve__im trying to install gftp but i cant find it on synaptic.  i need to add repositories but i cant find a howto on the site can someone point me at the proper link?06:25
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Markus_Pi gathered info from my menu lst and fstab06:25
errorhi, kann man ubuntu von der livecd aus installieren?06:25
naliothubotu: tell steve__ about repos06:25
naliothsteve__: enabled universe and multiverse06:25
karlanim having troubles with my Grub setting. i have both ubuntu and win xp on this comp, but after updating to the newest linux, i cant boot xp ?06:25
nalioth!de06:25
ubotude is probably Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de06:25
errorthanks06:25
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Markus_Pi'm wondering if because there has been a kernal update since the turtorial was written that maybe the instructions are wrong06:26
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steve__!easysource06:26
Markus_Pis that possible06:26
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:26
Markus_Por would a linux kernal upgrade not make that much difference06:27
Dr_Williskernel update shoul;dent affect grub.06:27
Markus_Pthats what i figure06:27
Dr_Willisunless the grub menu config some how got altered wrongly.06:27
Markus_Pit won't let me reinstall it06:27
karlanDr_Willis, yeah, but i changed the grub config so i didnt have several ubuntu boots, and that has worked fine since i updated06:27
gnomefreakMarkus_P,  did you try update-grub?06:27
Markus_Pno06:28
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Markus_Pit wasn't listed as a step06:28
gnomefreaktry it see if it makes a difference06:28
erUSULDr_Willis, not true i made a kernel update yesterday and it changed the root= line in all my custom made stanzas so i coul not boot. i have to boot with live cd and edit menu.lst06:28
Dr_Williskarlan,  theres a setting that can auto-limit it to showing just the last 2 or so. :P06:28
Markus_Phttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows06:28
Markus_Pthats the howto i'm trying to use06:28
karlanDr_Willis, oh, ok :) it was someone here that told me i could change it manually06:28
Dr_WilliserUSUL,  sounds like a bug to me.06:28
karlan:C06:29
Markus_Pis that the same one you used Dr_Willis ?06:29
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karlanDr_Willis, any idea how i can fix this? :)06:29
Dr_Willistheres a lot of interesting 'settings' that ubuntu does in the grub config. worth reading the fuile a few times.06:29
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erUSULDr_Willis, yeha have to live with it. anyway i use custom kernels i may have to avoid kernel install/update06:30
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Dr_WillisMarkus_P,  ive done it soo many times with other disrtos.. i  can muddle my way through it withiout that url :P06:30
Dr_WilliserUSUL,  custome kernel :P i aint had to mess with a custome kernel in ages.. *yea*06:30
uber_spacedradaway, when you said ' odd maybe it's udev eating your loop device', I think you may have been on to something06:30
Markus_Pcould you take a look at it for me .....06:30
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Markus_Psee if it looks ok?06:31
Markus_Pi'm really stuck06:31
uber_spacedI can refer to my machine with my IP address, but not localhos or 127.0.0.106:31
trappistDr_Willis: most people don't "have to" use custom kernels, but there are still plenty of reasons to do it06:31
uber_spacedmy lo looks like it's borkded.06:31
uber_spacedis there a way to fix that?06:31
gnomefreakMarkus_P,  can you paste the grub config file in pastebin?06:31
Dr_WillisMarkus_P,  what is the system not doing/doing?06:31
karlanwhere is the grub config located?06:31
trappistuber_spaced: ifconfig lo 127.0.0.106:31
Dr_Willisits GRUB 101  day here on #ubuntu06:31
trappistuber_spaced: with sudo of course06:31
radawayuber_spaced, yeah I think that's what is happenning sadly my expertise are not enough to help you with that :/ maybe update your udev or kernel06:31
Markus_Pwell i reinstalled windows06:32
Markus_Pand i can't get the grub menu to come up06:32
pmjdebruijnMy Realtek 8169 is being recognized as a Realtek 8129, this happened after I installed some upgrades, so I guess my PCI id map got borked or something? What package contains the PCI ids?06:32
Markus_Pwindows re wrote the mbr06:32
uber_spacedtrappist, that seemed to fix it; now If i could isolate the cause...06:32
Pygimarkus: windows replaces grub L.06:32
trappistuber_spaced: and make sure you have something like "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost" in /etc/hosts06:32
mike__http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=62219 <---i have the same problem, please help me06:32
uber_spacedtrappist, yes, I do.06:32
Dr_WillisMarkus_P,  windows over wrote the mbr, you mearly need to some how boot back to the ubuntu install and rerun the grub installer.06:32
gnomefreakMarkus_P, your using windows now?06:32
Dr_WillisMarkus_P,  you still have the ubuntu install cd?06:32
Markus_Pno06:32
trappistuber_spaced: I've noticed that on ubuntu, if other devices fail to start at boot, lo will fail to start also.06:32
Markus_Pi'm using ubuntu live right now06:32
trappistuber_spaced: other network devices, I mean06:33
Markus_Pyes Dr_Willis  i still have the install06:33
uber_spacedthe problem usually happens a couple of hours after I am on the box; the address on eth0 will just dissappear.06:33
Dr_Willisahh you are on the live cd even now. :P good06:33
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gnomefreaki found its easier to re-install ubuntu but all depends on what you have saved in ubuntu06:33
PygiMarkus: good, then put in the install cd, and go to the grub installer :P06:33
Markus_Pwell06:33
trappistuber_spaced: and take lo with it?06:33
Pygiwillis: hehe :)06:33
uber_spacedtrappist, it looks like it did this time.06:33
Markus_Pi'm thinking i'm at the point of reinstalling ubuntu06:33
trappistuber_spaced: sucky06:34
uber_spacedI didnt see the lo thing before because I didnt notice it i guess.06:34
mike__http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=62219 <---i have the same problem, please help me06:34
Pygignomefreak: why suggesting reinstall? :/06:34
uber_spacedwell, at least I dont have to reboot.06:34
gnomefreakPygi,  i didnt i said i found that easiest for me06:34
Dr_Willisreinstallimng grub should be a rather trivial task.. but it does help if you understand how grub and the booting system works.06:34
Pygignomefreak: well, that's almost the same :P06:34
gnomefreakive tried the grub fixes and none worked for me06:34
Markus_Pwell Dr_Willis  i figured the same thing06:34
moots I just installed Ubuntu 5.04 onto my laptop which is a Dell Inspiron 1100 and I have been having problems with not being able to change out of the 640x480 screen resolution.  I have gone in the X server and changed the monitor settings and nothing seems to help.  I have checked forums and I'm lost to as why it does work.  Does anyone have any ideas?06:34
Markus_Pi did lots of reading before reinstalling windows06:35
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Dr_WillisMarkus_P,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows   - seems rather clear to me. :P06:35
Markus_Pfigured i understood it06:35
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Markus_Pwell i follow it to a tea06:35
uber_spacedtrappist, yeah, it's really annoying.06:35
Pygimoots: go to /etc/xorg.conf06:35
Markus_Pand it's not working06:35
Pygimoots: go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:35
Chris_in_the_ukhey all, can someone remind me of the command line command for downloading bit torrents?06:35
karlanhow do i create a bootdisk on a floppy to boot ubuntu instead?06:35
mootspygi, i'm there06:35
Dr_WillisMarkus_P,  you still get no menu eh.. means ya proberly did somtning wrong. Lol.06:35
Markus_Pwell i pasted almost everything06:36
Pygiwell, in screen section, rearange resolutions so that the one you wanna use is first06:36
Markus_Pcept of course my hard drive info06:36
MrRioChris_in_the_uk: btdownloadcurses06:36
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jonohi all06:36
Chris_in_the_ukMrRio: Cheers06:36
Morrowynwhen i double click the cdrom, it gets noexec mounted , any idea where i can remove this noexec thing?06:36
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mootsyeah, it's set for the right sizes06:36
Markus_Pokies06:36
Markus_Pi give up06:36
Dr_WillisMarkus_P,  if you Knwo the Grub style names for your hard drives - you can use  the section called  "Recovering GRUB Manually"06:36
Pygimoots: have you restarted X?06:36
jonoI just tried compiling 2.6.14 on breezy and I get Kernel panic- not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) - is this an initrd related problem?06:36
mootsyep06:36
Markus_Pi did that06:36
Markus_Pgot errors too06:36
Dr_WillisMarkus_P,  HOWEVER - if you added a new partition or some how altereed the order.. you will need to make changes to the hd0,0 and so forth.06:37
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Markus_Pnothing should have changed06:37
Dr_Williswhat/where did you reinstall windows to?06:37
Markus_Pi just formated the c drive and reinstalled windows06:37
cowbudwhat is the easiest way to compare to files and spit out just the difference without any special > < characters in it. Can you do that with diff?\06:37
Markus_Pdidn't mess with any partitions06:37
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Dr_Willisand C: had always been the windows drive?06:38
Markus_Pyep06:38
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Dr_WillisIm betting ya did some typo somewhere. :()06:38
dermshow come ubuntu's gcc doesnt work right06:38
Markus_Pi've retried it 3 or 4 times now06:38
lucasvoderms: you need to install it06:38
dermstell lucasvo i did06:38
yuachtok im trying to do a fresh install of ubu 5.10 on my new 80gb harddrive... but when it comes to "installing the 'grub' package..." everything just stops, no load, no movement... nothing, it's like it freezes... any ideas?06:39
Pygimoots: just a sec pls06:39
Markus_Peverything appears to working up until i try to recover grub automatically06:39
radawayderms, doens't work right?06:39
dermsnow when i try to configure this program it keeps spitting out that gcc can't create executables06:39
gnomefreakderms, did you install build-essential?06:39
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Markus_Pso that tutorial i shared with you Dr_Willis ..... says to try and recover grub manually06:39
Pygimoots: tried dexconf?06:39
khermansI've set my alias in bash_profile, but it doesn't work!06:39
Markus_Pwhich gives me more errors06:39
mootsno, i havent heard of that06:39
Morrowynhow to disable the noexec option on the ubuntu auto mount stuff ?06:39
dermsi didnt gnomefreak, thanks very much for the suggestion, im very new to linux06:40
gnomefreakderms,  you may not have the gcc base insalled or the wrong compile command or wrong gcc for the code?06:40
Pygimoots: start that in command line06:40
Dr_WillisMarkus_P,   Until? hmm thats an alternative method. you should be able to just  boot the live cd. and in a root shell, run 'grub' and type those commands.06:40
MickMcMackZomg, Mick has sound, after 3 months of struggling. x)06:40
Dr_WillisMarkus_P,  no need to mount stuff or do the other things at the start.06:40
mootsit doesnt do anything06:40
mootsjust starts a new blank line06:41
Pygiit "configures" X server again06:41
Pygitry restarting X06:41
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mootshow?06:42
didierwhat06:42
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Pygimoots: CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE06:42
gnomefreakctrl+alt+backapce is one way06:42
mootsok06:42
MrRiomoots: better if u log out first06:42
gnomefreakmoots06:42
Pygignomefreak: backapce :D06:43
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gnomefreaklol oops06:43
Pygihehe :)06:43
Draken-owerr,06:43
Draken-owi need help with grub ppl06:43
gnomefreakmy typing is gettting worse06:43
Draken-owhow do i add a linux install to it06:43
Pygignomefreak: will be better :)06:43
mootsit says something about permission denied06:44
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gnomefreakmoots use sudo06:44
khermansI can set my alias for bash from the command line, but i want to make it permanent -- sticking it in bash_profile or bash_aliases has no effect -- any help?06:44
gnomefreakwait a min.06:44
Dr_Willisgesh its grub day today. :P06:44
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gnomefreakmoots restarting X shouldnt need permissions06:45
mootsok, it now just gives me a new line like before06:45
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karlanDr_Willis, would it work to reinstall grub? would that make a default setting?06:45
Dr_Williskhermans,  those files get read at login.   you use .bashrc or .bash_profile06:45
Draken-ow__06:45
Draken-ow# For booting Linux06:45
Draken-owtitle  Woody06:45
Draken-owroot (hd0,0)06:45
Draken-owkernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-devfs-ntfs-2.1.306:45
Draken-owinitrd /boot/miniwody1.gz06:45
Draken-owcan someone help me set that for mine ?06:45
khermansDr_Willis, i am using my ~/.bash_profile06:45
Dr_Williskarlan,  grub gets ont he MBR. and it then looks for the menu config file..  its that simple. :p06:45
gnomefreakDraken-ow,  please dont paste in here use pastebin06:46
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Draken-owok gnomefreak06:46
Draken-owcan u help me thou ?06:46
Dr_Williskhermans,  that file gets read only by new LOGIN shells..    toss in a line like "echo 'this is .bash_profile'  "  tjhen try xterm, and xterm -l (i think) theres a diffreance06:46
naliothDraken-ow: the /topic is for folks to read when the enter channels (ours mentions using a pastebin to paste)06:46
Dr_Williskhermans,  most likely you want the changes in .bashrc06:46
gnomefreakubotu tell Draken-ow about grub06:46
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khermansDr_Willis, ah ok thankss -- yeah even opening a new gnome-terminal had no effect06:47
naliothkhermans: put them in ~/.bashrc06:47
dermsis there an APT package for gtk?06:47
ice-tWAAA! the windows-installation just killed all my partitions on the harddisk06:47
naliothderms: yes there are. plenty of them06:47
fyrzenhappened to me once...06:47
khermansice-t, doubtful unless you chose t format06:47
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rolphinHi everyone, my usbkey is correctly detected but konqueror tries media:/sda, and my key is mounted on /media/usbdisk ? What can I do ?06:47
MickMcMackice-t, probably not - it probably just overwrote the MBR.06:48
karlanDr_Willis, well, how come my recent mbrlist got overwrited?06:48
Dr_Williskhermans,  theres a logic and reason for this stuff. :P but its been aroudn for so long.. a lot of the reasons dont apply much,.06:48
karlani only got a windows xp (loader) in the list now06:48
ice-tMickMcMack, gparted doesn't find any partition06:48
karlanand that wont work at all06:48
MickMcMackxD06:48
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john__what is everyone's favourite mp3 players?06:48
MickMcMackmplayer. x)06:48
Dr_Williskarlan,  then your menu list/grub config  some how got  messed up it seems.06:48
ice-txmms (it was :-()06:48
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khermansjohn__, many like MPC/MPD06:48
fyrzenbmp06:48
karlanDr_Willis, do you know where the config is located?06:48
ice-tkaffeine was good, too06:48
khermansjohn__, xmms, rhythmbox, etc are alternatives06:49
john__cool06:49
gnomefreak/boot/grub/menu.lst06:49
khermansjohn__, amarok is great for KDE06:49
Draken-owsigh gnomefreak06:49
john__and mpc/mpd for gnome?06:49
Draken-owcan u not just help me06:49
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Draken-owi dont know wat kernal name is06:49
gnomefreakDraken-ow,  did you read the pages ubotu sent you?06:49
Draken-owyes06:49
Draken-owjust blabber to me06:50
Dr_Williskarlan,  grubs config is in /boot/grub/menu.lst or /boot/grub/grub.conf - as i recall.06:50
MrRiojohn__: amarok is the best music player..06:50
Draken-owyes Dr_Willis06:50
Draken-owi dont know wat to do06:50
MrRioin my opinion06:50
mootshas anyone installed ubuntu on a dell inspiron 1100?06:50
Draken-owwat settings are06:50
rolphinMrRio: I can't read radio streams with amarok, it keeps buffering... wtf ?06:50
Draken-owfor ubuntu06:50
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john__MrRio, for gnome aswell?06:50
stephanhy06:51
john__khermans, is MPC/MPD text or GUI?06:51
naliothrolphin: sounds like a network issue06:51
MrRiojohn__, yeah io always use gnome, amarok is the only qt app i use06:51
stephanwadz goin on heer?06:51
Draken-owCAN sopmeone please help me06:51
Draken-owwithout pasting web sites06:51
john__MrRio, qt?06:51
MrRiorolphin: keeps buffering? the xine-engine is by far the best, give that a go06:52
rolphinMrRio: ok i'll try06:52
naliothDraken-ow: the web sites have info to help you.06:52
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MrRiojohn__,  yeah, qt is to kde what gtk is to gnome06:52
karlanbrb06:52
rolphinMrRio: gstreamer-engine issue may be ?06:52
Effihi06:52
Draken-ownalioth06:52
Effican me say someone, how i can change the video speed in mplayer?06:52
Draken-owi dont have time to do read it06:52
MrRiorolphin: yeah, i always have gstreamer issues, ive had aa much better time with xine-based stuff under ubuntu06:53
gnomefreakthis is a help channel not a do it for me channel :(06:53
Draken-owgnomefreak06:53
Draken-owits not a redirect to website channel ethier06:53
naliothDraken-ow: we aim to help folks help themselves here.06:54
gnomefreakDraken-ow,  anyone can tell you how to do it but that doesnt help you06:54
Draken-owi dont want to learn how to run grub06:54
Draken-owi just want to get windows and linux booting together06:54
gnomefreakDraken-ow,  you came in here asking how to change grub06:54
Draken-owno gnome06:55
BxLpeople who fear learning are funny06:55
stephancould someone tell me how i could install some MP3-Pugins or similar?06:55
Draken-owi came to ask wat kernal name is06:55
Draken-ownothing else06:55
gnomefreakDraken-ow,  you asked how to put woody in the grub config file06:55
naliothubotu: tell stephan about mp306:55
afief**kernel name06:55
Draken-owkernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-devfs-ntfs-2.1.306:55
Draken-owinitrd /boot/miniwody1.gz06:55
Draken-owi need those two lines06:55
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olicathas anyone had any luck getting a d-link wireless dls-G604Y wireless router working with ubuntu?06:55
john__ubotu: tell john__ about mp306:55
Draken-owjust for ubuntu06:56
olicatsorry, thats a DSL-G604T router06:56
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gnomefreakDraken-ow,  to get kernel for ubuntu type in terminal uname -r06:56
Draken-owdude06:56
fyrzenanyone manage to install real player on Breezy?06:56
gnomefreakthat will give you the kernel06:56
Draken-owi cant get into linux anymore06:56
afieffyrzen: yes installed flawlessly06:57
fyrzenthe link to the .deb package on real.com is always dead, i used alien to convert the .rpm to deb but it didn't qork well06:57
fyrzenafief - where'd you get it from?06:57
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naliothfyrzen: try the helix player06:58
afiefhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-848295cba1b3591a4b4a0dbea5844fd5d2894b6b06:58
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fyrzenthx i'll do that06:58
Draken-owgnomefreak06:58
afiefalways check wiki.ubuntu.com first(i learned that two days ago:))06:58
gnomefreakDraken-ow,  you running windows right now?06:58
Draken-owyes06:58
Draken-owive got grub for windows06:58
gnomefreakyou cant change grub from windows to begin with that im aware of06:59
Draken-owerr06:59
Draken-owi got grub for windows06:59
Draken-owdont worry about that06:59
gnomefreakDraken-ow,  i dont know anything about "grub for windows" :(06:59
Draken-owit works06:59
Draken-owdude06:59
Draken-owits same thing06:59
Draken-owkubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso06:59
Draken-owwith that06:59
Draken-owwat would the kernal thing i need be ?06:59
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erUSUL!enter07:01
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!07:01
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gnomefreaklatest breezy kernel was 2.6.12-10 or 2.6.10-12?07:01
gnomefreaki dont remember :(07:01
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Drakengnomefreak07:01
BxL2.6.12-10-07:01
Drakenkubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso07:01
Drakeni used that to install07:02
gnomefreakty BxL07:02
Drakenwat would my kernal thing be ?07:02
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flixil25807:02
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Dr_Willisthe kernel version - would be whatever one you last updated to, and booted from.07:03
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flixil/me is only trying to think... And he's having problems07:04
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flixilouch xD07:04
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gnomefreakDraken,  my suggestion is to read the how-tos for grub when you have more time seeing as we dont know anything about your system and how its partioned and nothing like that07:04
Khisanthyou can use "uname -r" to see which kernal you are currently using07:05
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gnomefreakwhy not i can07:05
gnomefreakthe output from it was 2.6.15-8-38607:06
BxLusing a 386 kernel is quite weird07:06
gnomefreaknot for a p207:06
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BxLtrue that07:07
gnomefreaksorry Khisanth  i read that wrong :((07:07
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gnomefreakyeah see i gave him that command 20 mins ago he could have read the wiki and fixed it by now :(07:08
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BxL:( indeed07:08
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GameCathi - can anyone help me figure out why apache2 won't serve https:// ?07:09
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trappistGameCat: you have to configure it to do so07:09
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GameCattrappist: i thought I had :)07:09
Stormx2I must use X11 with 8 bit color depth. how do I go about this?07:09
Dr_WillisStormx2,  Must?07:09
GameCatI have the site files edited and in the right places, the cert generated, the document root set07:10
ovehwhat im client to people use? amsn, gaim other?07:10
Stormx2Dr_Willis: for something I am trying ;-)07:10
mootsgaim07:10
Dr_Willisthis sounds like one of those odd "i have to do...." questions where the user is confuised. Lol...07:10
gnomefreakStormx2, if you want to change it do it in the xserver-xorg config file07:10
cmathesonStormx2: change the 'DefaultDepth' in your xorg.conf file to 807:10
Stormx2ok07:10
GameCattrappist: basically, I've done everything on breezy that i did on hoary, and it doesn't work :/07:10
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Stormx2where is my xorg.conf file?07:10
Dr_Willisstart a vnc session and vncviewer  thats only 8 bit color. is an easier test07:10
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Raskallwhat tools can I use to tune my sata harddrive in ubuntu? my values from hdparm -tT is way lower than hits I've found on google with the same hardware.07:10
ovehmoots: is it possible to set a personal picture in msn with gaim?07:10
fyrzen/etc/X11/07:10
mootsno idea07:11
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trappistGameCat: define "doesn't work" (and never use that phrase again :))07:11
cmathesonoveh: yes, do it in the accounts option dialog box07:11
yuachtok im trying to do a fresh install of ubu 5.10 on my new 80gb harddrive... but when it comes to "installing the 'grub' package..." everything just stops, no load, no movement... nothing, it's like it freezes... any ideas?07:11
mootsshould be07:11
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yuachtit's a SAtA drive07:11
Stormx2Dr_Willis: No can do. I'm playing MP3s with my monitor =D07:11
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gnomefreaksudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg07:11
GameCattrappist: browsers cannot connect - apache starts/restarts fine with ssl configs in place07:11
AndrewX"Kernel Panic: VFS: not syncing" errors at boot on a clean install of Breezy. I got both an IDE and SATA drive and I think that's it, but can't figure out what to do to get it to boot.07:11
Dr_WillisStormx2,  Huh? that made no sence.. dare we ask WHAT you are doing that you need 8 bit color?07:11
ovehcmatheson: thanx :)07:11
gnomefreakmay want to use gksudo there07:11
trappistGameCat: can't connect as in they timeout? connection refused? permission denied? what?07:12
Stormx2Dr_Willis: Playing Mp3s with my monitor. I told you ^_^07:12
gnomefreakDr_Willis, asking those questions tend to hurt sometimes :)07:12
joeljkpi'm using alsa with oss emu and alsa-based esd; i have 2 sound cards, the first of which doesn't work; when i use an oss app, i can't hear anything; how do i set the default sound card for oss apps?07:12
Dr_WillisStormx2,  good luck.. have a nice day.. good by.. :P07:12
GameCattrappist: An error occurred while loading https://localhost: Could not connect to host localhost.07:12
GameCattrappist: and I've checked, it's not iptables stopping it :)07:12
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Stormx2Dr_Willis: I've already played music on it with eliza, but mp3 is the next level ^_^07:13
cmathesonjoeljkp: i think the only way to make a "default" is just to symlink the one you want to use to /dev/dsp and rename the other one to /dev/dsp2 or whatever07:13
Stormx2brb, restarting X07:13
trappistGameCat: fuser -v -n tcp 44307:13
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joeljkpcmatheson: but how does that interact with udev?07:13
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GameCattrappist: 443/tcp              root      13284 f....  apache207:13
GameCattrappist: several times07:14
fyrzenCan anyone recommend a command-line mp3 player, with more features than mpg321?07:14
trappistGameCat: good.  now, what if you use 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost07:14
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GameCattrappist: same error07:14
trappistfyrzen: there are dozens if not hundreds.  what features are you looking for?07:14
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trappistGameCat: netstat -ntlp | grep 44307:14
Stormx28 bit color is pwetty07:15
yuachtseriously, i need help :( the install hangs at "Installing the grub package.."07:15
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pinkisntwellif I install xubuntu-desktop what will happen to gnome?07:15
fyrzentrappist: support for mpc files, visualizations, playlist display07:15
trappistyuacht: shot in the dark... is your root (boot?) partition xfs?07:15
GameCattrappist: tcp6       0      0 :::443                  :::*                    LISTEN     13284/apache207:15
GameCattrappist: does that mean it's not listening for ipv4?07:16
joeljkpcmatheson: well, you're exactly right07:16
trappistGameCat: that tcp6 looks very weird to me07:16
gnomefreakpinkisntwell,  nothing07:16
joeljkpcmatheson: just gotta figure out how to do that with udev07:16
cmathesonjoeljkp: they are still device files... you'd just have to do it every time you rebooted (or change the order the modules are loaded somehow)07:16
Dr_Willispinkisntwell,  you can select gnome or kde at the login screen.07:16
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pinkisntwellgnome or kde or xfce or whatever?07:16
gnomefreakpinkisntwell, when you are at login you can choose what desktop you want07:16
Dr_Willispinkisntwell,  you can select gnome or kde or whatever... :P07:16
s1gnAlhow do I open a terminal window? I can not find it in the menus.....07:16
_TomBanyone here had experience remastering the livecd?07:16
pinkisntwellnice... but isn't the login screen part of gnome?07:17
Dr_Willispinkisntwell,  kde has its own 'kdm' gnome uses 'gdm'07:17
Dr_Willisyou can use either one.07:17
cfahas anyone have an Atheros internal mini wireless card to work07:17
gnomefreakpinkisntwell,  the sessions button lets you do that (button maybe wrong word)07:17
GameCattrappist: running that command on port 80 gets the same tcp6 thingy, and that works okay07:17
pinkisntwellso gdm will let me run kde or whatever?07:17
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cmathesonpinkisntwell: yes, just choose the kde session from the menu07:17
trappistGameCat: see if you get a better error message with a different browser.  I don't know what that one is supposed to mean.07:17
gnomefreaks1gnAl, applications>accessories>terminal07:17
s1gnAlahh dangit07:18
existance_i installed mysql onto my apache2 server, how do i change the user and password it takes?07:18
s1gnAlI see it now, thanks07:18
Stormx2Yhg. I need the "amp" package now07:18
Stormx2*searches*07:18
gnomefreaks1gnAl, they moved it in breezy :)07:18
cmathesonexistance: check out the docs on mysql.com, they're pretty comprehensive07:18
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trappistexistance_: you should read the mysql docs, where all that and much more is very well documented.07:18
drakenlolwat can i use to explore a linux drive07:18
drakenlolfrom windows07:18
existance_cmatheson, thanks07:18
GameCattrappist: in firefox I get a popup dialog saying "The conection to localhost has been terminated unexpectedly. Some data may have been transferred."07:19
pinkisntwellI'm thinking of installing xfce because gnome is slooooooooow here. will my apps work with xfce?07:19
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trappistdrakenlol: explore2fs if your filesystem is ext2/307:19
gnomefreakpinkisntwell,  yes07:19
drakenlolta07:19
drakenlolsince u guys dont want to help me find kernal07:19
yuachtIn the ubuntu 5.10 install,is there anyway to choose to install LILO instead of Grub?07:19
drakenlolgoing to explore linux drive and get it from there07:19
trappistGameCat: oh, you probably want to check your apache logs then.  my guess is something's wrong with your ssl negotiation.07:19
drakenlolthere is yuacht07:19
drakenloland u should do it07:19
drakenlolgrub is a piece of shit07:20
gnomefreakyuacht, i think you have to install lilo first07:20
GameCattrappist: right, I'll go look - they in /var/log?07:20
cfahas anyone have an Atheros internal mini wireless card to work07:20
cmathesonyuacht: no, there's no reason to install lilo instead... it's just personal preference07:20
existancetarball just means it is grouped in a .tar right?07:20
trappistGameCat: by default, /var/log/apache2/error.log07:20
cmathesonexistance: right07:20
gnomefreakif i remember correctly lilo is a beast comapred to grub trying to configure07:20
existancecmatheson, bah, what doesn't anyone say that anywhere07:21
trappistgnomefreak: not at all07:21
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  :P depends...07:21
existancecmatheson, err why07:21
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Dr_Willisgrub is more flexable , and thus more complex in ways07:21
gregsevean you still there?07:21
ovehis there a IM client for linux which you can change skins/themes on?07:21
cmathesonexistance: i don't know... it's just one of those things everyone takes for granted07:21
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GameCattrappist: I think I'm on to something here - "[Thu Dec 29 18:04:23 2005]  [warn]  RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `192.168.0.3' does NOT match server name!?"07:22
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gregdoes firestarter change or mask your ip address?07:22
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trappistGameCat: try running 'sudo apache2-ssl-certificate'07:22
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joeljkpcmatheson: do you know how to set the proper sampling rate, etc. for oss?07:23
cfaanyone know wireless07:23
yuachtwhen i make a custom swap partition, do i make it primary or logical?07:23
naliothyuacht: it matters not07:23
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jhennhow do i burn a .bin file to a floppy?07:23
yuachtreally?07:23
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omgok can someone tell me07:23
trappistjhenn: dd if=file.bin of=/dev/fd007:23
omgthis part of the boot07:23
omgroot(hd1,0)07:24
cmathesonjoeljkp: hmm, i'm not sure... i don't really get that deep into my sound setup...07:24
greganybody know about Firestarter firewall?07:24
omgwat hd1,0 is ?07:24
joe1can someone plz help me set up java?07:24
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trappist!tell joe1 about java07:24
mevvisj2re1.407:24
cfaexit07:24
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joe1thank u07:24
greglast time I tried to set up Java through apt-get I had a time07:24
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greghave you tried apt-get yet? joel?07:25
omgcan someone help me07:25
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omgroot(hd1,0)07:25
ROBOdhello guys07:25
omgi know my linux hdd is hdc107:25
ROBOdhow to add Places to Gnome?07:25
omgso how does that work ?07:25
jhenntrappist: that doesn't work07:25
ROBOdplaces ... local folders07:25
jhenngreg i do07:25
gregcool, firestarter?07:25
lesshastewhat do people use to rip film dvds?07:25
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bshumate!tell greg about firestarter07:25
jhennlesshaste: i heard of something called dvd::rip07:26
ilba7r!ndiswrapper07:26
ubotufrom memory, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper07:26
greghere's my question, I had set up apache2 and it was working fine on 8080 and then07:26
Dr_Willislesshaste,  'dvd:rip'07:26
gregI installed firestarter and no longer was able to see it,07:26
jhenntrappist: that command doesn't work07:26
lesshasteDr_Willis: hmm.. I am using that... 32fps!07:26
gregthen someone last night helped me figure it out.07:26
lesshasteis dvd::rip fast for some people??07:26
trappistjhenn: heard you the first time.  waiting for information I can work with.07:26
ilba7r!firmware07:26
ubotuilba7r: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!07:26
ilba7r!ipv607:26
ubotuilba7r: Do they come in packets of five?07:26
Dr_Willisit can be a very cpu intensive task.07:27
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gregand I can have public access my site, but the ip of my computer seems to be different07:27
gregis that possible?07:27
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lesshasteDr_Willis: cpu usage is near zero. I am just copying07:27
greghttp://64-203-185-115.va.mvl.ntelos.net:8081/07:27
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gregit used to be 64.4.119.177:808007:27
Dr_Willislesshaste,  it is coppying 4+Gb of data07:28
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lesshasteDr_Willis: at 31fps :)07:28
Stormx2mp3player.cpp:134: int main(int, char**): Assertion `input != __null' failed.07:28
Stormx2 <-- Any idea what I need to do to correct that?07:28
Stormx2Oop, sorry for the newline.07:28
jeffisageekok i have a question...i have a shared drive that i can access via my linux machine.  I would like to create a folder i can access on my windows laptop...how do I go about being able to access the linux folder from my windows pc?07:28
lesshasteDr_Willis: the point is that for some people vobcopy runs in minutes...07:28
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trappistjhenn: looks like it worked07:28
uber_spaced!samba07:28
ubotuit has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently07:28
lesshasteDr_Willis: for others.. including me.. the only thing that works is dvd::rip that takes hours07:28
omgcan someone help me07:29
omgroot(hd1,0)07:29
omgi know my linux hdd is hdc107:29
omgso how does that work ?07:29
jhenntrappist: its not on the disk07:29
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trappistjhenn: what makes you say that.  did you mount it?07:29
s0n1cm0nk3yhey can someone with a dual boot post their grub plz07:29
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s0n1cm0nk3yIm having issues with windows07:29
Dr_Willisomg,  hda = (hd0) hdb=(hd1)07:29
omgok ta07:29
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omgand the ,0 after hd1 ? mean nothing ?07:30
Dr_Willisomg,  grub starts counting at 0, and skips iover the cdrom drives.07:30
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Dr_Willisomg,  partion #1 = 007:30
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yuachtehm my sata disk detects as "hda", why is that?07:30
Dr_Willishda1 = hd0,007:30
ROBOdhow to add Places to Gnome?07:30
jhenntrappist: when i ran the command the floppy didn't make a noises like it was writing07:30
omgDr_Willis07:30
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KenMasters"can't open /dev/video0: No such file or directory07:30
KenMasters" what happend?07:30
omgerr my hda1 = windows, and i am using hd107:31
omgto do that07:31
gnomefreakplaces menu?07:31
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Yan__Hello07:31
trappistjhenn: oh, maybe your floppy isn't /dev/fd0... or maybe you typoed /dev/fd0?07:31
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Yan__I have In the other computer ubuntu, Ive installed KDE but on start up It write me: Ubuntu:)  how can I change it to Kubunu?07:31
KindredROBOd, check out Bookmarks from the menu in Nautilus.. click a folder and add/edit - it does work a little odd but it's usable07:32
gregpeace07:32
jhenntrappist: well its mounted in nautilus, how can i see what device it is07:32
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xiaogilWhen  I try to remove phpmyamdin from my computer, I get the following error msg: Removing phpmyadmin ...07:32
xiaogil/var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found07:32
xiaogilwhat can I do ?07:32
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rolphinwhere can I found a good sourcelist.txt file ?07:33
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trappistjhenn: I don't use nautilus... you can open a console window and type 'mount'07:33
trappistrolphin: wtf is sourcelist.txt07:33
yuachtok so now it works.. i had to make the root partition reiserfs instead of ext307:33
flixil ehmm /etc/apt/sources.list?07:34
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s0n1cm0nk3yHey, anyone mind posting their grub.conf up here? plz?07:34
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vini12341234hey guys, im sharing a folder from ubuntu with samba, and windows is asking me for a domain username and password. any help please?07:34
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InverseCowHello, anyone else having problems burning with Serpentine?  I keep getting an error that I do not have enough space on my cache directory?07:35
trappistvini12341234: sudo smbpasswd -a <username>07:35
ilba7rYan_ i do not understand what you mean please clarify07:35
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yuachtilba7r i think he means either the boot sequence or the login screen07:36
ilba7rYan_ do you mean the log in screen07:36
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vini12341234awesome thanks07:36
ilba7ryuacht i think that too but maybe he did not install kubuntu-desktop07:37
sureshothello does anyone here do develoment work in the gambas environment07:37
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flixilis there any xfce-desktop?07:38
gnomefreaki think he means the sessions on login screen07:38
gnomefreakxubuntu-desktop07:38
Dr_Willisflixil,  yes.. "xubuntu-desktop'07:38
flixilxubuntu-desktop xD07:38
flixili was thinking on that name07:38
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speedracerhi everyone07:38
jhennwhen i do cat /proc/cpuinfo which entry is cpu speed?07:39
flixiland what's diferent on have only xfce installed?07:39
flixilconfiguration?07:39
naliothubotu: tell flixil about xubuntu07:39
Dr_Willisflixil,  the meta-package isntalls all related xfce tools as well07:39
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Dr_Willisand is a lot easier to type. :P07:39
MickMcMackjhaa, cpu MHZ tells you the clockspeed.07:39
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Drakenhow do i like install a pkg i download07:40
flixilmmm ok... I prefer the choose myself :) thanks Dr_Willis07:40
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Drakeni got the bridge nat thing07:40
flixilDraken, dpkg -i name.deb07:41
naliothubotu: tell Draken about deb07:41
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sureshotdoes any one here do develoment work in gambas07:41
Drakenits not a deb file07:41
MoodlesI can't find nmap on my ubuntu install. and i dont know what package I need if i dont have it07:41
flixilnalioth, burnout?07:41
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trappistMoodles: try the nmap package.  or apt-cache search nmap07:41
naliothDraken: please start asking informative questions07:41
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naliothMoodles: nmap is a console program07:42
flixiloh yes, it's a debian package or what tipe?07:42
sureshotDracken was y ou telling me that gambas is not a deb file ???????????????07:42
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Drakengambas ?07:42
gnomefreakno sureshot07:42
hd420hmm...07:42
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flixilDraken, .tar*07:42
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sureshotok you said something i did not follow it is hard for me to follow scrooling tex07:43
sureshotsorry07:43
Drakenbrcfg.tgz07:43
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Korathallo07:43
gnomefreakthats what i was afraid of:(07:43
sureshoti need help with gambas if anyone here knows it07:43
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Koratjemand deutsches hier, der mir vielleicht bei einem kleinen soundprob helfen kann?07:44
nalioth!de07:44
ubotuhmm... de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de07:44
gnomefreaktgz file you have to compile07:44
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gnomefreakDraken,  i would look for a .deb file for that instead of the taz07:44
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Drakenk07:45
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kloskehi@all07:45
versailycan someone plz instruct me on installing java on ppc?07:46
versaily(i know there is a website on the wiki ubuntu but don't no the name...)07:46
naliothubotu: tell versaily about javappc07:46
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gnomefreakwhat is brcfg?07:46
versailythx07:46
gnomefreaki cant apt-cache search it :(07:46
AMD_when i open a terminal window, it always is too small.  How can i change the default window size when it opens ?07:47
Dr_Willischeck the menus for all the settings you can twiddlw with :P07:47
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AMD_Dr_Willis: i did ;)07:48
gnomefreakAMD_,  is it only the terminal?07:48
Dr_WillisAMD_,  mine fills up most of the screen...07:48
Dr_Willis:P07:48
Dr_Willisactually it fills up close to 3/4 of the screen07:48
AMD_gnomefreak: yep07:48
gnomefreakDr_Willis,  man thats huge07:49
gnomefreaklol07:49
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Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  :P i got a huge font set - lol..07:49
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AMD_Dr_Willis: mine is fairly small.  I always have to make it bigger to fit the 80 col width07:49
_TomBAnyone got experience remastering the LiveCD?07:49
Dr_Willisya coukld always  make a new launcher icon on the panel and edit the command it runs.07:49
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AMD_Dr_Willis: yea, will probably try something like that.  Just thought there was an easier way.07:50
gnomefreakmy screen res made mine bigger :)07:50
Dr_WillisAMD_,  that is an easy way :P07:50
AMD_Dr_Willis: :)07:50
Dr_WillisAMD_,  that way you could have different buttons for different ones.07:50
Dr_Willispink and blue and green and on different desktops :P07:50
AMD_next thing...how do you change 'extension' associations?  right now .mp3 files are running with 'totem'.  I want them to open with xmms07:51
Dr_Willisor just go use 'xterm'  :P07:51
naliothAMD_: right click in the file mangler and do the properties dance07:51
DarthbudgeHello I have some Questions I recently installed Ubuntu linux on my secondary hard drive and everything went fine until it asked me too reboot and when I did it told me "Error booting OS" could any one help?07:51
gnomefreakxterm is tiny07:51
AMD_nalioth: whatcha mean ?07:51
gnomefreakits half the size of gnome term07:52
naliothAMD_: like in windows, you can right click on files and tell them what to open with07:52
AMD_nalioth: oh. ok.  there is no central location for file associations though ?07:52
cmathesonAMD_: so this may not interest you, but if you dig xmms i would also suggest you taking a look at beep-media-player (it's a little bit radder in that it's gtk2 and what not)07:52
gnomefreakDarthbudge, what error?07:52
AMD_cmatheson: thanks, will check it out07:53
sureshotdoes anyone know if there is a develoment channel and if there is how do i get to it07:53
Badm4nany2 can tellme how to set/configure my postfix ubuntu 5.10 ?07:53
Darthbudgeit just said "Error booting OS"07:53
N6pfkI get a kernel panic when doing a halt but not a restart while stopping LVM?  I am not loing data even though the hd led is on when I hard power off.07:53
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naliothsureshot: what do you need to know?07:53
cmathesonBadm4n: for simple setups you can do 'dpkg-reconfigure postfix', otherwise i would suggest checking out the #postfix documentation/channel07:53
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sureshoti am using gambas and cant run a simple program07:54
sureshotno errors07:54
gnomefreakDarthbudge, grub comes up gives you choice and linux you cant boot but windows you can?07:54
Darthbudgeyeah07:54
Badm4n!ubotu tell me about postfix07:54
Badm4n!postfix07:54
ubotuBadm4n: Are you on ritalin?07:55
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sureshotDarthbudge are you using SATA and ATA drives in the same computer07:55
DarthbudgeATA I belive07:55
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AMD_hmmmm....I've got my MP3 collection shared from another server (debian).  Yet i can't play the files from this remote machine.  It acts like it loads, but never plays.  If i download the file locally it will then play.  Any ideas why this is ?07:55
sureshotonly07:55
Badm4nubotu no07:55
ubotuAhh, too bad, I really thought so...07:55
gnomefreakoops07:55
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polpakAMD_ how is it "shared" ?07:55
Badm4nubotu help me install postfix07:55
trappistAMD_: shared via apache? samba? nfs?07:55
gnomefreaksorry ubuntu please ignore that07:56
AMD_sorry....it's shared using samba07:56
sureshotDarthbudge i have problems getting ubuntu to workk when i run ide0 as ata and a sata drive together when the sata drive is the boot device07:56
Badm4n!postfix07:56
ubotuI haven't a clue, Badm4n07:56
polpakAMD_ have you tried mounting the shared folder with smbfs ?07:56
DarthbudgeI have 2 main hard drives in Raid 0 configuartion and one 80gb one that is by itself that is the one I am trying to install Linux on07:56
Badm4n!mail server07:56
ubotuWish i knew, Badm4n07:56
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gnomefreakBadm4n, the bot doesnt know those commands07:57
DarthbudgeI think they are all ATA07:57
AMD_polpak: nope...just used the Places -> Connect to server way07:57
Badm4n:(07:57
riffichello07:57
rifficI have a quick question about dual booting breezy and dapper07:57
naliothBadm4n: why not ask your questions07:57
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rifficis it possible to do it from the same /boot partition?07:57
Darthbudgeor at least that is what it says when you are supposed to select the hard drive to install LInux on07:57
rifficif not, how should I set it up so they're on seperate partitions07:57
polpakAMD_, I've had problems with some software not recognizing the nautellus vfs.. I'd suggest using smbfs and mount07:57
gnomefreaknalioth, he did he wants to know how to set up postfix07:58
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sureshotok i wanted to clear that up it is not the drive config that is the problem... unless ubuntu is not load the raid driver it will lie soemwhare else. i am not good enough to help any further. just making sure it was not this probelm07:58
Badm4nany2 can tellme how to set/configure my postfix ubuntu 5.10 ? ( this is my 3rd question :D )07:58
AMD_polpak: ok, i'll give that a try.  thanks07:58
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Belboz99Hey, anyone have any advice on how to mount a Linux network share?07:58
sdschulzeDo you think I can install Debian's emacs-snapshot on Debian?07:58
AMD_yet another thing ;)  I'm trying to apt-get remove totem, and it wants to take ubuntu-desktop with it.  does ubuntu-desktop rely on totem or something ?07:58
naliothBadm4n: if nobody knows, there will be no answer. try asking uncle google or come back here later (mayby try #postfix)07:58
sdschulzes/Debian/Ubuntu/207:58
N6pfkHow do I disble LVM?07:59
lespinozI need a command to find a pakege07:59
Linux_whoreIm about to partion for Ubuntu. Does it matter if I make the partitions primary or logical? Someone told me to make the partition mounted at / (root) primary. Is this correct?07:59
rifficlespinoz: apt-cache search07:59
Darthbudgehmm well can you give anything to try to fix this?07:59
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InverseCowAnyone know how to fix the "No room on cache" error when you burn CD's in Ubuntu?07:59
rifficor check packages.ubuntu.com07:59
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sureshotwell all i am off to the inlaws :( wish me luck LOL07:59
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immothephi together07:59
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KenMastersdriver for webcam creative PC CAM 350 ... where download?08:00
Belboz99Hey, I'm trying to use the mount command to mount a Linux share using the syntax located here: http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Filesystems/Mounting_smbfs_Shares_Permanently.html    but it doesn't work08:00
polpakAMD_, why remove totem?08:00
psusiN6pfk: just don't use it to format the drive when you install... don't choose that option08:00
immothepi whould like to install turbo gear08:00
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Vanderquestion: what file system should I use for a new partition of ubuntu?08:00
Belboz99 wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //debian/windowsshare08:00
naliothVander: ext308:01
AMD_polpak: doesn't work.  keeps giving me anerror about a decoder not being there08:01
Vanderthanks08:01
immothepbut there is always a message "unable to execute gcc: No such file or directory"08:01
psusiLinux_whore: just let the ununtu installer make the partitions... by default it makes one extended partition to contain / and swap08:01
polpakAMD_, what are you trying to play with totem?08:01
crimsunimmothep: have you installed build-essential?08:01
immothepis there a possibility to reinstall the gcc?08:01
naliothimmothep: install "build-essential08:01
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cvt|ubuntushould i be concerned with spyware or trojans on ubuntu?08:01
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AMD_polpak: was just trying to open an mp3, and totem pops up and gives me the error.08:01
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immothepnalioth i take short a look08:01
psusicvt|ubuntu: no08:01
naliothcvt|ubuntu: not really, no.08:01
Razor-Xhas anyone encountered this error when using mpd (I just compiled mine for shoutcast support) cat: /etc/mpd.conf: No such file or directory08:01
cvt|ubuntukthx.08:01
N6pfkI just want to stop LVM from starting not reinstall the system08:02
polpakubotu tell AMD_ restricted08:02
Belboz99anyone?  I'm feeling invisible here08:02
psusiN6pfk: why?  it doesn't hurt anything08:02
lespinozi need to find amsn 0.9508:02
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polpak!restricted08:02
ubotuI heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats08:02
poningrupolpak: you have to add an about in the middle08:02
Belboz99thanks Dr_Willis08:02
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immothepnalioth - not until now - i try to install it - thanks08:02
poningru'!tell AMD_ about restricted08:02
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polpakAMD_, if you follow the restricted format wiki you can play MP3 files with totem08:02
trappisthow can I tell from the command line that I'm on breezy vs. dapper vs. hoary, say, for a script08:02
AMD_polpak: thanks :)08:03
Linux_whorepsusi: you can read this if you want: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=611633&posted=1#post611633 I had problems dual booting xp when I used the guided partition tool to use "largest amount of continuous free space"08:03
crimsuntrappist: lsb_release -r08:03
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Dr_WillisBelboz99,  you are trying to mount a Samba share on a linux box?08:03
N6pfkIt is annoying to have to power off manually when halting.08:03
Belboz99yeah, that's right Dr_Willis08:03
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lespinozergrwg08:03
trappistcrimsun: hrm... so how can I tell I'm on ubuntu?08:03
trappistcrimsun: nm, -a :)08:03
puffHm08:03
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Anth0ny_Should I install SMP-kernel in order to utilize Hyper-threading?08:04
Dr_WillisBelboz99,  the file system is 'smbfs' i Think... the online book 'using samba' (free)  has details.08:04
polpakBelboz99, you've installed smbfs (sudo apt-get install smbfs) ?08:04
Stormx2hey again08:04
crimsunAnth0ny_: yes08:04
naliothAnth0ny_: yes08:04
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Belboz99hmm, I'll try that polak08:04
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psusiAnth0ny_: if you want to use HT, yes, you need the smp kernel...08:04
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N6pfkOK forget the LVM problem.  My computer freezes when ever I do anything involving vidoe 4 linux?08:04
Anth0ny_thanks08:04
Belboz99polak, LOL, thanks!  I never had that problem on Debian Sarge or Itch :P08:05
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Linfani customized my ubuntu i changed the splash screen how can i get rid of the brown at startup not the login screen i changed that already but when the splash screen comes on the ubuntu brown background is displayed when the new splash comes up how can i get rid of it?08:05
gnomefreakEtch maybe?08:05
polpakBelboz99, must have had it installed by default then =p08:05
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fat32but intel chips are crap anyway08:06
psusiLinux_whore: I have installed breezy on computers that already have windows using the whole hard drive with no problems08:06
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N6pfkI am trying to get a webcam working and video 4 linux hang my system08:06
psusiLinux_whore: the installer prompts to shrink the windows partition and use the rest for ubuntu and it dual boots fine08:06
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Belboz99polak, yeah.  It seems there's a lot of things Ubuntu doesn't do by default, but anyway SUCESS! I got it to mount in the fstab, so no more worries :)08:06
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polpakBelboz99, congratz =p08:07
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Linux_whorepsusi: i never had to resize windows because i left space for linux. what do you think could be causing the problem? after installing linux, xp comes up with the messages that hal.dll is corrupted.08:07
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Belboz99polak, btw the problem was that the AmaroK player wouldn't recognize the "link" that I made, nor would it explore the network ;)08:07
cvt|ubuntuwhat does it mean to "uncomment?"08:08
psusiLinux_whore: try NOT leaving free space... let windows use the whole drive, then let ubuntu shrink it08:08
dannyhey im new to linux and just wondered if anyone can give me advise on changing the theme, i downloaded one but it says wrong format wen i try and install it (also any good sites for themes would be help ful)08:08
Belboz99cvt|ubuntu take out the #'s08:08
cvt|ubuntuk08:08
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afiefIs there any good open source webpage builder like Dreamwaver?08:09
InverseCowafief, Have you had a look at NVU?08:09
polpakdanny,  try sudo apt-get install gnome-art08:09
naliothafief: there are not many to compare to dreamweaver08:09
Belboz99cvt|ubuntu, btw there should only be a few lines that need to be uncommented, if you uncomment lines that are supposed to be commented youl08:09
Belboz99'll get errrors08:10
afiefnalioth: dont need anything to compare to the big ones, all i want is not having to write HTML08:10
Belboz99I hate the way the ' is right next to enter :(08:10
afiefi will try nvu:)08:10
naliothafief: then nvu or quanta should do just fine08:10
naliothafief: also screem08:10
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crimsunBelboz99: it's on the opposite side of the keyboard if you use, say, dvorak08:10
Belboz99cool crimsum :)08:11
AMD_Does ubuntu detect a windows installation on another drive during install?  Or do i just need to modify grub manually?08:11
N6pfkDoes anyone have problems with video 4 linux hanging their computer?08:11
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polpakAMD_, I believe it will configure grub correctly08:12
polpakAMD_, so you can dual boot08:12
AMD_polpak: ok.  no biggie if it doesn't.  Just wanted to prepare :)08:12
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Darthbudgeohh one other thing when it shows me all the other OSes I have on the computer it has Windows Xp twice is that normal?08:13
cvt|ubuntuwhen i try to install java it says "couldn't find sun-j2re1.5" but i have it on my desktop. ideas?08:13
Linux_whorepsusi: is your windows install fat32 or ntfs?08:13
AMD_hmmmm....evolution won't start :(08:13
psusiLinux_whore: ntfs08:13
polpakcvt|ubuntu, did you cd to ~/Desktop before running dpkg -i sun-jre*08:14
Darthbudgeand should I install Grub bootloader on my main Hard drive with windows or on the hard drive with Linux?08:14
polpakAMD_, really?? that's odd.08:14
cvt|ubuntupolpak, no. how do i do that?08:14
ian_hi, do i need to install the ati drivers for my card? im new to linux and chose ubuntu as my distro08:14
polpakcvt|ubuntu, open a terminal and type cd ~/Desktop08:14
AMD_polpak: yea.  seems there were a couple process already running.  killed em off and then it started.08:15
cvt|ubuntuk08:15
AMD_polpak: must not of shut off correctly that last time i exited08:15
polpakian_, you don't need to, but it's recommended if you want to get the full 3d hardware accelleration08:15
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cvt|ubuntupolpak, it said the same.08:15
polpakian_, read the getting started guide for instructions on installing the ATI drivers08:15
DarthbudgePlease help?08:16
polpakian_, you don't have to get it from the ATI website (and I'd recommend that you don't)08:16
oly_eeep, help having probs with wireless there is no intrface to configure08:16
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oxezis it a good idea to build my entire gentoo system in chroot (in ubuntu)?08:16
polpakDarthbudge, it doesn't really matter much so long as grub is going to get loaded before the windows boot loader in order of operation08:16
oly_i have installed the drivers i used using ndiswrapper and modprobed the driver but no wlan0 shows up08:16
crimsunoxez: it's your system, do whatever you want.08:16
oxezcrimsun: I posted in thr wrong channel, damn sorry08:17
ian_is there a ready driver from ubuntus site?08:17
oly_the only ifference is i ws using the 32 bit version before and now i am using 64 bit version of ubuntu08:17
Darthbudgehow do I get it to go before Windows bootloader08:17
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oly_anyone give me some ideas that i can try ??08:17
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gnomefreakwhat command is it that tells me version of a program that wont open?08:17
polpak!ati08:17
ubotuI heard ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1008:17
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cvt|ubuntui'm having some trouble installing java. can someone help me get?08:17
polpakubotu tell ian_ about ati08:18
N6pfkoly--32bit drivers don't work with a 64 bit kernel08:18
polpakcvt|ubuntu, what's the trouble?08:18
oly_oh do i need to get 64 bit version of the windows drivers then ?08:18
naliothubotu: tell cvt|ubuntu about javadebs08:18
jhennis cairo in dapper?08:18
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trappistcrimsun: do you happen to know if the lsb-release package is part of the standard install?08:18
oly_or does ndis  not work with 64 bit ??08:18
crimsuntrappist: it's a core package08:18
QMarioHow do I fax in Ubuntu?08:18
trappistcool08:18
crimsunjhenn: yes08:18
N6pfkoly--if you can find one, LOL08:18
QMario!Fax08:19
ubotuQMario: Did you get hit by a windmill?08:19
QMario!No08:19
ubotuAhh, too bad, I really thought so...08:19
QMario!Botsnack08:19
ubotuthanks qmario :)08:19
oly_okay thxs did not realise that :p08:19
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cvt|ubuntui got the self extracting file from java.com and followed the instructions from ubuntu but it wont install, polpak08:19
ian_ok thanks08:19
crimsunjhenn: it's in Breezy as well08:19
Darthbudgehow do I get Grub bootloader to go before Windows bootloader?08:19
naliothcvt|ubuntu: read the info from ubotu. problem solved08:19
cvt|ubuntuok08:19
gnomefreakjhenn,  yes it is08:19
dannypolpak, wen i put (apt-get install gnome-art) it came up with Reading package lists... Done08:19
dannyBuilding dependency tree... Done08:19
dannyE: Couldn't find package gnome-art08:19
naliothdanny: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?08:20
fat32Darthbudge: you must install grub into the mbr08:20
ian_polpak....will installing the drivers generate performance boost? ieman im real new to linux so i know nothing in particular08:20
dannypolpak, wen i put (apt-get install gnome-art) it came up with Reading package lists... Done08:20
dannyBuilding dependency tree... Done08:20
dannyE: Couldn't find package gnome-art08:20
DarthbudgeWhat is MBR?08:20
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polpakian_, it will give a boost for those programs which need 3d accelleration08:20
naliothdanny: please read the /topic (and dont paste in here)08:20
gnomefreakdanny,  use synaptic08:21
DarthbudgeIf that is master boot record  it did ir at least it said it did08:21
fat32master boot record08:21
polpakdanny, you need to enable the universe repo08:21
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ian_i see....and by the way how do i know which ubuntu i have....because instrrucxtions are different for each08:21
eddyebur[n] er:08:21
eddyeyou here?08:21
N6pfkoly--I have a compaq v2000 with an amd64 turion processor and my ndiswrapper on the winxp driver failed with no errors using a 64 bit kernel but I have an AT&t pcmcia card that works for wifi out of the install.08:21
gnomefreakian_,  lsb_release -a08:21
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cvt|ubunturoot@aaa:~/Desktop # sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.508:22
cvt|ubuntuE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:22
cvt|ubuntuE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:22
cvt|ubuntuubotu, that's what it says now.08:22
ubotucvt|ubuntu: Do they come in packets of five?08:22
eddyeProblem: Initializing random number generator ...... [ fail ] 08:22
gnomefreakcvt|ubuntu, please dont paste in here use pastebin08:22
cvt|ubuntuok08:22
cvt|ubuntuubotu, i don't know08:22
ubotucvt|ubuntu: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!08:22
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gnomefreakcvt|ubuntu, also close an instence of apt you have more than one open08:22
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ian_i see thanks... and oh...since im real new do you know where i read on what commands does in the terminal? all i know is simple moving and deletign and creating directories08:22
KenMasters"warning: ISO C90 forbids mixed declarations and code" what happend?08:22
nalioththere is a /topic to read08:22
Avencan someone give me the link for the reposotories list?08:22
naliothubotu: tell danny about repos08:23
eddyeanyone got any tip for me?08:23
naliothubotu: tell Aven about repos08:23
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gnomefreakubotu tell ian_  about commands08:23
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N6pfkProblem with video 4 linux hanging my computer?08:23
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eddyegnomefreak: cam you help me08:23
gnomefreakiam the pm that ubotu sent you has command useage08:23
ian_thnx.08:23
gnomefreakeddye, help you what?08:23
gnomefreakyw iam08:23
gnomefreakian_,08:23
eddyesee up08:23
hd420I fixed my apache2 problem from yesterday08:24
eddyemy first message08:24
ian_yes?08:24
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gnomefreakall i saw was intionlizing random number08:24
eddyeyes08:24
eddyehow do i fix that08:24
gnomefreakno ian_  i was fixing my typo sorry08:24
polpakian_,  here's a brief overview http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal08:24
Linfanubuntu only supports 16 and 24 bit colors? what happened to 3208:24
eddyei cant get into gnome08:24
eddye?08:24
polpakian_, and you can use 'man' to get the manual for pretty much any command08:25
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Linfanis there a keyboard shortcut by default to brung up terminal?08:25
ian_will installing the ati driver enahnce my scrolling....i eman will it be smoother... its kinda not good when i dragwindows08:25
gnomefreakeddye, ummmmm ok you cant get into gnome? doesnt really say much can you give more details?08:25
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eddyei tryed to normalize xorg.conf but it isnt working08:25
AMD_are there any disadvantages to enabling the root account?  Other than the obvious security implications.  Do certain features of ubuntu not work, or not work right with the root account enabled?08:25
eddyeit doestn say anything08:26
naliothAMD_: you'll break your functionality08:26
naliothubotu: tell AMD_ about root08:26
eddyethats the problem08:26
naliothAMD_: read that page08:26
gnomefreakeddye, what are you using right now?08:26
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AMD_nalioth: ok, thanks08:26
DarthbudgeIt said that I installed the Grub bootloader in the MBR but I still can't boot in too linux08:26
cmathesonhey does anyone know if there's a clearlooks variant that is less.. um... brown?08:26
eddyeUbuntu breezy 5.1008:26
polpakcmatheson, yes. plenty08:26
cvt|ubuntupolpak, i got the package from ubotu and followed the instructions but it still says "couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5" and i cd to desktop. ideas?08:26
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DarthbudgeIt doesn't even give me the choice it just goes in too windows08:26
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gnomefreakno eddye  i mean are you at command line, a differetn desktop ?08:26
ian_jsut wondering does anyone here fold?08:26
naliothcvt|ubuntu: you need to cd whereve your downloads go08:27
cmathesonpolpak: in the repos or are you going to art.gnome.org?08:27
PrinterGood Day all.08:27
polpakcmatheson, if you want all the themes you can handle you can install the gnome-art package08:27
naliothubotu: tell cvt|ubuntu about cli08:27
cvt|ubuntunalioth, it goes to desktop08:27
eddyecommand line i thing (Crtl+Alt+F1)08:27
cmathesonpolpak: yeah, and i'm not really interested in lots of themes, just a clearlooks theme that is whitish instead of tannish08:27
naliothcvt|ubuntu: is it fully downloaded?08:27
cvt|ubuntuyes08:27
cmathesonpolpak: i'll check that package out though, thanks08:27
AMD_nalioth: i guess I'm used to a 'root' account on linux/bsd boxen.  I would imagine if i created another account and gave it root access that would not break ubuntu.08:27
gnomefreakeddye, ctrl+alt+F7 doesnt bring you back to gnome?08:27
cvt|ubuntui cd to desktop and type: sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.508:27
eddyegnomefreak: no :(08:27
KyralAny Networking Gods here?08:28
gnomefreakeddye,  try startx08:28
PrinterIn Dapper/Firefox 1.5 I have no text in the "Downloads" window for the files I am downloading.  Any fix for this?08:28
eddyewait08:28
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polpakcvt|ubuntu, I think you need dpkg -i08:28
naliothAMD_: there is no need for a root account here, sudo (and it's graphical cousins gksudo and kdesu) will do anything you need to do08:28
polpakcvt|ubuntu, but you may be doing something other than what I'm thinking of08:28
cmathesonAMD_: not sure what you mean... if you want another user w/ ultimate sudo power just add him to the 'admin' group... otherwise you can create a root account, but don't use the 'adduser' command, just do 'sudo passwd'08:28
KyralI have a ...unique... problem08:28
puffHm, cat proc/acpi/thermalzone/THM0/pollingfrequency --> <polling disableD>08:28
eddyeit says something about x11-unix has suspecious mode08:29
KyralAnyone know how to route an internet connection through an SSH tunnel08:29
AMD_nalioth: i know sudo will work.  But if i need root access for multiple commands i don't want to have to type sudo each time ;)08:29
puffdoes this mean that /proc/acpi/thermalzone/THM0/temperature is out of date?08:29
AMD_cmatheson: thanks for the info08:29
puffKyral: Sure.08:29
polpakAMD_, sudo -s08:29
eddyexinit: giving up08:29
naliothAMD_: use sudo -i08:29
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puffKyral: What are you trying to do?08:29
Kyralpuff: PM?08:29
AMD_-i, or -s  ? ;)08:29
gnomefreakeddye, have you tried rebooting yet?08:29
puffkyncani: I guess.08:29
eddyeyes08:29
polpakAMD_, probably either ;p08:29
puffKyral: I guss.08:29
eddye4 times i gues08:29
AMD_polpak: ;)08:29
puffguess, dammit :-).08:29
KyralI'd rather not clutter the channel with this one08:29
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QMarioSo, how do I use eFax-gtk?08:29
LinfanIM doing a terminal command to fix my resolution rate-i type in the commandbut when it promps me for the password it wont let me type how can i fix this or what i am doing wrong08:30
Linuturkwell, I just got a new puter08:30
psusisudo -s gives you a root shell with your environment... -i uses root's environment08:30
QMarioFor some reason, Linux can't even detect my modem.08:30
AMD_polpak: oh, cool.  Didn't know that would throw me into a root shell environment :))08:30
gnomefreakeddye,  what did you do meaning what was the original plan?08:30
Linuturkguess what? this wireless card isn't supported out of the box either. It's a Broadcom08:30
polpakAMD_, yeah. I guess -i would be a better option08:30
gnomefreakisnt sudo -i perfered?08:30
Linuturk(Ethernet) #1 (Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN - Packet Scheduler Miniport (36Mb/s) 0.86MB In, 0.18MB Out) #2(Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport (10Mb/s) 0.00MB In, 0.00MB Out)08:30
noirequusgnomefreak: yes, sudo -i is preferred08:31
psusiI allways use -s... that way ~ is YOUR home not root's ;)08:31
eddyegnomefreak: i installed cedega 5.0 then i reboted because it freezed my cpu and when i tryed to go on it didnt go on08:31
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PrinterHmmm.  If I select "Ask me where to save" in the preferences I do get text.  If I leave it at "Save to Desktop" I don't get text.08:31
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eddyethen i used to rename the xorg.conf and it didnt work either08:31
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Kindredum.08:32
gnomefreakeddye,  im sorry i dont know anything about that program but sounds like something happened whyn you tried to rename it :(08:32
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kalinhi08:32
eddyegnomefreak: the problem is in the xorg.conf i think08:32
eddyebut i cant repair it08:33
kalini need a control ACTIVE X to mozilla08:33
eddye:(08:33
kalincould anybody tell me how to install it?08:33
cmathesonkalin: you're only option for activex is wine or something like that08:33
AMD_hmmm....ubuntu doesn't like my arrow keys ;(  Keeps logging this in syslog: Dec 29 14:33:17 localhost kernel: [4355186.365000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.08:33
tonyyarussokalin: Why do you need it anyway?08:33
Linuturkhttp://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?dlc=en&lc=en&product=434599&lang=en&cc=us&08:33
kalini already have got wine08:33
eddyegnomefreak: ill try something else :)08:34
gnomefreakeddye,  ok try this sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg and set it back to orignal settings08:34
LinuturkAnyone have experience setting up that computer ^^08:34
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eddyegnomefreak:08:34
eddyeill try :)08:34
LinuturkMy wireless Woe's contineu08:34
Linuturkcontinue*08:34
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kalini need active x to mozilla to install gunbound08:34
QMarioIs cmug, a spam bot?08:34
cmugno08:34
gnomefreaki think so08:34
gnomefreakoh08:34
cmugmade a 'booboo' in my .screenrc08:34
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kalinand winamp i think08:35
cmugwhich opened infinite number of irssi's08:35
cmugmy bad08:35
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noirequuscmug: why all the joins?08:35
Linfanis there anyway to  make the splash screen fit the width of the screen08:35
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jjsso im having a little trouble with apache on my ubuntu install. i installed apache2 with apt-get, then something went wrong and it stopped working so i removed it and installed it again and it still won't work, any ideas?08:36
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kalinhelp me please i need active x to mozilla08:36
cvt|ubuntuhow do i know if i have breezy?08:36
eddyegnomefreak: it isnt going on... like it freezed :)08:36
noirequuscvt|ubuntu: in a console, type 'cat /etc/issue'08:36
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tonyyarussonoirequus, What do the /n /l in that mean?08:37
cvt|ubuntuit says hoary hedgehog.  so does that mean the instructions don't apply, noirequus?08:37
noirequustonyyarusso: the n and l in what?08:37
noirequuscvt|ubuntu: i dont know what you want to do08:37
polpakcvt|ubuntu, it means you probably need different instructions08:37
cvt|ubuntunoirequus, install java08:38
polpaknoirequus, he's trying to install java08:38
tonyyarussonoirequus, The output from cat /etc/issue.08:38
cvt|ubuntuk08:38
ucornelba esti roman08:38
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eddyelol :)08:38
gnomefreakeddye, it sounds like something happened when you tried to rename it and not knowing anything about that program i am gonna be no help sorry :(08:38
eddye HEHE08:38
kalintell me please i need active X to install WINAMP08:38
noirequuscvt|ubuntu: you'll need to upgrade or follow the instructions on the wiki08:38
eddyegnomefreak: i am giving up :)08:38
polpakkalin, why do you need winamp?08:38
noirequuskalin: why do you need winamp? xmms is a perfect clone08:39
eddyegnomefreak:  thanks anyway08:39
kalin=/08:39
eddye;)08:39
polpakkalin, you can use xmms or totem08:39
eddyebye08:39
gnomefreakyw eddye  sorry08:39
polpakkalin, or rhythmbox08:39
kalinyes i know08:39
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gnomefreakwinamp is a windows app08:39
ucornelba nu este nici un roman pe canalul asta08:39
gnomefreak!es08:39
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:39
kalinbut  some other programs ask me active x for mozilla08:39
ian_which audio player can stream form the net?08:39
Avenmplayer08:39
AvenI believe08:39
polpakian_, you mean like shoutcast channels etc?08:40
ian_is that part of ubuntu or do i need to download that from other sites?08:40
kalini cant play mp3 on bythymbox08:40
ian_polpak yes08:40
noirequusian_: rhythmbox, xmms, lots of them08:40
tonyyarussoian_, Depends on what you want.  I use VLC for an online radio station.08:40
polpakubotu tell kalin about restricted08:40
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cvt|ubuntupolpak, do you know anything else i can do to get java?08:41
addisoncould someone give me some assistance, i've been trying to setup a wireless network adapter (linksys) and it isn't working08:41
polpakcvt|ubuntu, yeah, one sec08:41
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David1hi08:42
moodogevening all08:42
polpakcvt|ubuntu, this is specifically for Hoary... http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre08:42
ucornelba mai vb si romaneste08:42
ian_whats vlc?08:42
polpakcvt|ubuntu, but It's probably just a good idea to upgrade to breezy anyway08:42
D1-does anyone know how to prevent ubuntu (gnome) and kubuntu (kde) to share the menu system?08:42
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david1hi08:42
david1does anyone know how to use alien?08:42
david1i want to install limewire, but it doesn't recognize the alien command08:43
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ian_where can i find the radio stations? i eman are there no automatic tunign in rythm box08:43
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D1-alien filename.deb08:43
ucornelsa va fut in cur pe toti de pe acest canal08:43
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polpakdavid1, apt-get install alien08:43
Aven!es damnit08:43
ubotuAven: I haven't a clue08:43
polpakdavid1, or sudo apt-get install alien rather08:43
Aven!es08:43
noirequus!it08:43
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:43
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:43
ilba7rdavid ther is a source file for limewire .bin08:43
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david1polpak,  when i do that, ti requires the ubuntu cd08:43
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david1but i dont' have it with me08:44
kalinplopak i think wiki.ubuntu is not a secure page08:44
noirequusdavid1: edit your cdrom line in your sources.list08:44
polpakdavid1, you need to update your sources.list08:44
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polpakkalin, yes it is08:44
polpakkalin, it's just self signed08:44
david1noirequus, polpak k08:44
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polpakkalin, just click to accept the certificate08:44
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Linfanim a noob so can somebody please tell me how to install a .deb package? i downloaded to my desktop08:45
polpakLinfan, dpkg -i filename.deb08:45
noirequusubotu: tell Linfan about deb08:45
david1i just tried to install using synaptec, which also needs the cd08:45
polpakdavid1, you need to edit your sources.list08:45
david1noirequus, polpak , how do i do that?08:45
polpakdavid1, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:46
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ucornelba alex esti roman08:46
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Linfanok i did what you guys told me08:46
Linfanit ask for a password08:46
pinkisntwellto use xfce should I install xfce4 or xubuntu-desktop?08:46
Linfanbut when u try to type it in08:46
ucornelsa va rfut in gura pe toti08:46
david1polpak, what do i modify in sources.list08:46
Linfannothing is happening it wont let me type in the password08:46
gnomefreakxubuntu-desktop08:47
ucornelfack you08:47
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pinkisntwellwhy?08:47
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polpakLinfan, the password is hidden so it cannot be read over your shoulder. Just type it in and hit enter08:47
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gnomefreakits a meta-package08:47
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gnomefreakit comes with apps you might want/need instead of installing them seprately08:47
polpakdavid1, you need to comment out the line for the CD repository and uncomment the lines for the us.archive.ubuntu.com repos08:47
david1polpak, k08:48
AMD_where does the 'configuration editor' store it's data?  Is it in text files, or is it in a db of some type ?08:48
polpakAMD_, which configuration editor?08:48
AMD_polpak: the one in Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor08:48
gnomefreakwhy cant they have anjuta.deb on thier site :(08:48
david1polpak,  ty very much, i put ## by the CD rom line, the top one and now it's downloading alien in synaptec08:48
Linfanim installing alltray and i downloaded to my desktop it says cannot access archive:no such file or directory but isee it on my desktop08:49
polpakdavid1, np =)08:49
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polpakLinfan, you'll need to cd to your Desktop08:49
AMD_polpak: or is it just parsing the configuration files in /etc and my home direc ?08:49
Linfansudo apt-get install alltray can i just do that to get it?08:49
polpakAMD_, it uses configuration files from your home directory08:50
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polpakAMD_, I cannot recall which ones though08:50
cvt|ubuntupolpak, i followed those instructions but it didn't work yet. should i get breezy?08:50
AMD_polpak: ok, thanks :)08:50
Linfanok how do i do that?08:50
polpakcvt|ubuntu, I'd suggest doing that. It'll probably be easier in the long run08:50
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gnomefreakLinfan,  cd Desktop08:50
Linfani come from windows where we dont do this terminal stuff sorry for my ignorance08:50
D1-does anyone know if theres a way for kubuntu not to adopt gnome's menu system and vice versa?08:50
kemikLinfan:  use synaptic and search for alltray08:51
eddyegnomefreak: how do i change from ati graphic to Default ???08:51
Linfano.k so let me get this straight everything i want will be in snaptic?08:51
Linfanso i hardly have to use terminal then08:51
cvt|ubuntupolpak, do u know how to get breezy?08:51
polpakLinfan, pretty much08:51
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pashawLinfan,    when thigs go wrong youll need to know how to use terminal08:52
polpakcvt|ubuntu, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I think will work08:52
gnomefreakeddye, im not sure do you have an ati card? if so it should be set on ati08:52
Linfanis there any guides that will give a detailed explaination on how to properly use terminal?08:52
eddyegnomefreak: when it was on default i hadnt so much trubble :)08:52
polpakLinfan, check this one out as a starter http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal08:52
Linfani really want to learn how to use it-my built digital card reader is not working so maybe i can fix it through there08:53
kemikLinfan:  if the package isnt in the repositories, then you'll need to use other options (such downloading the .deb file an install it with "dkpg" )08:53
gnomefreakeddye,  did you change it to fglx and thats when the trouble started?08:53
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kemikLinfan:  using the cLI will teach you how to use the cli ;)08:54
yuachtis there a app in ubuntu that will let me choose mountpoints etc for my other harddrives then add it to fstab=08:54
yuacht?08:54
victor_mrrhello, can someone recommend a good HTML authoring system for ubuntu?08:54
tonyyarussovictor_mrr, nvu.08:54
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Linfanok i just searched synaptic its not there-i do have the deb on my desktop i foolowed the instruction you guys told me but it gave me error i posted earlier08:55
eddyegnomefreak: my friend told me how to fix to default (only the fglx change to ati)08:55
eddyeill try that now08:55
eddyebr08:55
eddyebrb08:55
david1does anyone here know how to run limewire?08:55
gnomefreakeddye,  yes thats why i asked08:55
Linfanhow do i make terminal look in the desktop for it08:55
gnomefreakLinfan,  cd Desktop08:55
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Zahrberis anyone here good with Wine08:56
tonyyarussoeddye, I would also like to know what your friend told you, for future possible reference.08:56
polpakZahrber, no meta questions pls ;p08:56
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polpakZahrber, what are you trying to do?08:56
ZahrberI am trying to use Wine with a few simple apps to learn to use it08:57
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laurent_join #ubuntu.fr08:57
kemikLinfan:  CD = change directory, .. so cd ~/Desktop OR cd /home/YOURUSER/Desktop08:57
ZahrberI did as the tut said and am running into problems08:57
eddyetonyyarusso: He installed my driver ati and he only said that he changed something (IRCnet #cmd here you can contact him his nick is BiZToRo)08:57
polpakZahrber, have you installed the wine package from winehq ?08:57
Zahrberi used the one from ubuntu repository08:57
Zahrberi also installed winetools08:57
polpakZahrber, that one is pretty old08:58
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Zahrberit is 0.9.308:58
Linfanok i did what you told me i typed in sudo dpkg -i alltray.ubuntu_0.60-1_386.deb at the beggining it is displayed like this-frank@ubuntu:~/desktop is this correct08:58
polpakZahrber, hrm. I thought the repos were still using CVS from a few months ago08:58
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polpaknvm08:58
polpakZahrber, so you installed the base wine software?08:58
eddyeNow i have to go ( tonyyarusso: he said that he changed the Driver from "ATI" to "fglrx"08:59
eddyebye08:59
Zahrberone thing is I did as tut said and Dled the windows dll's kernel32 user32 gdi32 ntdll and moved them to the windows/system32 and now I get error on everything08:59
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gnomefreakLinfan, if that is where the .deb is yes its right08:59
david1Does anyone know how to run limewire on Linux?08:59
Zahrbersynaptic installed 0.9.3 from repo08:59
Linfanfrank@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i alltray.ubuntu_0.60-1_386.deb09:00
Linfandpkg: error processing alltray.ubuntu_0.60-1_386.deb (--install):09:00
Linfan cannot access archive: No such file or directory09:00
LinfanErrors were encountered while processing:09:00
Linfan alltray.ubuntu_0.60-1_386.deb09:00
gnomefreakubotu tell david1 about limewire09:00
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polpakZahrber, I suggest you remove your .wine directory and use the winetool to set up your base wine system09:00
Linfanthats what i get when i try what you told me09:00
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Linfanooh wait did i forget to type in install09:00
Linfan?09:00
Zahrberok but I can't find my .wine dir09:00
polpakLinfan, that's what the -i is for09:00
gnomefreakdpkg -i <file.deb>09:00
polpakZahrber, it's in your home directory09:01
gnomefreakbut use sudo :(09:01
polpakZahrber, rm -rf ~/.wine09:01
D1-david1: go to ubuntuguide.org and there are instructions there for installing limewire.09:01
Zahrbercant figure out where it was installed it isn't in home dir09:01
polpakZahrber, yes it is09:01
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polpakZahrber, directories which start with . are "hidden"09:01
Zahrberno it isn't trus tme on this one unless it is invisible09:01
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Zahrberyes i view hidden files and still not there09:01
eliahow I can see directories which start with .09:02
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polpakelia, from nautellus or from terminal?09:02
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eliafrom terminal09:02
polpakelia, ls -a09:02
Zahrberbelieve me if it was simple I wouldn't be asking for help and all I have read for the last 24 hours does no help09:02
pashawZahrber, Zahrber    type  cd ~ <enter>      then  ls -al09:02
gnomefreakLinfan,  sudo dpkg -i alltray <tab>09:02
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eliathanks polpak ..... gracias09:03
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gnomefreaktab should complete the file name09:03
Zahrberyes when i go to cd ~/.wine i get to dir09:03
bur[n] erany of you nokia 770 owners here by chance?09:03
kalinis it possible to play .wma files in rythymbox or totem?09:03
Linfanim doing that but a help is being displayed about how to by typing dpkg09:03
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binskipy2ufirst time here09:03
binskipy2ucan anyone see me?09:03
Zahrberbut can't change to ~/.wine/drive_c/ Program Files because there is a space in Program Files and bash doesn't like it09:03
eliayes09:03
binskipy2uanyone here familar with distrowatch.com?09:04
BLuE_0nYXis there anyone who could paste me his /etc/group because mine is crashed=09:04
tonyyarussokalin, Yes.09:04
JeremyPrivettZahrber: You have to escape spaces with a backslash.09:04
pashawZahrber,   use a \   for the space09:04
bur[n] erkalin: yes09:04
Zahrberok let me try that one sec09:04
JeremyPrivettcd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/09:04
bur[n] erubotu: tell kalin about w32codecs09:04
trappistBLuE_0nYX: www.linuxkungfu.org/tmp/group09:04
binskipy2ucan someone tell me if ubuntu updates to finals of most software?09:04
kalinhow?? tell me please?09:04
kernicsomebody knows how to modify screen resolution? i have 1280x800 and I'm using 1024x768.09:04
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trappistkernic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:05
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BLuE_0nYXthx trappist09:05
binskipy2uubntu 5.10 has firefox 1.07, and kde 3.4x wil it update to firefox 1.5 and kde 3.5? when you enable everything in the repots09:05
binskipy2u?09:05
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bur[n] erkernic: system -> preferences -> screen resolution09:05
ian_kernic...system>preferences>screen resolution09:05
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Zambbabinskipy2u: When Dapper comes, comes also new software.09:05
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trappistZambba: well put09:05
binskipy2uso ubuntu wont update that much from whats on the cd itself?09:06
ZambbaYou can get KDE 3.5 from Kubuntu.org's unofficial repositories.09:06
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binskipy2uoh09:06
trappistbinskipy2u: not for this release.  we try to keep it stable.09:06
jtibauHi I need to install the SUN JAVA SYSTEM APPLICATION SERVER in breezy but it tells me I don's have some libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 can anyone help me09:06
kalinok thanks but is it secure the page of WIKI UBUNTU?09:06
psusibinskipy2u: that's what stable means... it's working so don't change it, except for critical bug/security fixes09:06
Dr_Acemasterif I can't browse to a windows box on the lan, what's the best way to find it?09:06
Dr_Acemasterbrowse = via nautilus09:06
wenseslaohow can i get edubuntu09:06
Kindredkalin, sure09:06
trappistjtibau: sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.209:07
kemikDr_Acemaster:  by IP address if you know it09:07
kalinwell i'm gonna see09:07
robzonwenseslao: download it.. there's a link on ubuntu.com09:07
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JeremyPrivettI don't suppose any of you know of a working video driver for an ATI Radeon 340M (Mobile) in an hp pavillion ze5730us, would you?09:08
Dr_Acemasteris there a "find computer" option?09:08
jtibauI tried doing the apt-get with the sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 but it says it can't find the package09:08
pashawwenseslao,   if you just want to add the desktop use synaptic   edubuntu-desktop09:08
wenseslaothanks09:08
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pashawJeremyPrivett,    "ati"  doesnt work?09:09
JeremyPrivettNo, pashaw.09:10
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JeremyPrivettIt "works" but it renders (if you can call it that) in Mesa.09:10
Zahrberok now i am cookin09:10
pashawJeremyPrivett,   ouch  too new huh?   search the forums or google09:10
eliajtibau, change the repository09:10
pinkisntwellxorg takes 204 MB of virtual memory, is that normal?09:10
Zahrberi had to delete the user32.dll gdi32.dll ntdll.dll i was supose to place in wine folder as per tut09:11
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jtibauwhich repository should I use???09:11
JeremyPrivettI've been trying the forums. I found a couple of topics where people have found working solutions, but they were in Warty or Hoary and the solutions just aren't working in Breezy.09:11
eliaspeak spanish? jtibau?09:11
jtibauyes09:11
pashawpinkisntwell,   yes  linux doesnt like memory sitting around being wasted :)09:11
zillakehow can i install a previous version of nvidia-driver? Is there a repository that has older versions?09:11
jtibauo si mejor dicho09:11
ZahrberI forgot about backspace for spaces it has been so long since I have used Linux09:11
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eddyehey gnomefreak09:11
gnomefreakeddye, ?09:12
eddyehow do i change my monitor09:12
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eliabuscate en la guia ubuntu, la parte donde dice agregar repositorios extra y sigue los pasos, me avisas si09:12
Zahrberi got Flashget 171 working with wine just by a default wine install09:12
kernicI try to use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but i don't see i915 only i81009:12
markrianI've googled to no avail: how do I (SAFELY) remove all dot (hidden) files and directories from a directory, that is, keeping . and .. intact?09:12
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pinkisntwellwhat's a good newsreader for linux? I don't like pan that much09:12
Kyralgnus?09:12
eddyei thing it is a problem with the monitor as it isnt detecting it09:12
gnomefreakeddye, in the xserver-xorg file09:12
zillakepinkisntwell: what do you need it for ?09:12
zillakerealy READING or leeching :)09:12
pinkisntwellreading, i don't have a bin server09:12
eddyegnomefreak: where is the xserver-xorg?09:12
zillakethen i don't know ;)09:13
psusimarkrian: rm .*09:13
eliajtibau, te lo hizo?09:13
gnomefreaksudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg09:13
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jtibauno se como cambiar el repositorio09:13
eddyebut it isnt doing anything it just freezes09:13
ilba7rwill update menu update fluxbox menus as well as kde and gnome?09:14
eliaya va09:14
gnomefreakeddye,  im not sure than /etc/x11?09:14
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kernicI want to change the screen resolution09:14
eddyeand then?09:14
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pinkisntwellzillake: maybe I could ask for your bin server then? lol09:14
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gnomefreakeddye, other than using the dpkg -reconfigure im not sure thats all i ever used09:14
pashaweddye,  /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:15
eddyepashaw: i tryed that :)09:15
eliajtibau, mete aqui= http://www.guia-ubuntu.org/breezy/repositorios#como_anadir_repositorios_extra09:15
grafteddye, what are you trying to do?09:15
Zahrberthanks for the help polpak pashaw JeremyPrivett09:15
pashaweddye,    type  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:15
eddyei am using Samsung SyncMaster 955DF09:15
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Gomez_hello09:15
Linfanok im trying to fix my resolution im on the screen where you select a driver do i select any from the list or do i have to search for a specific driver for my laptops lcd?09:15
tonyyarussoeddye: Did your friend say where that change was made?09:15
zillakepinkisntwell: yes you _could_ ask, but i think i'ld say no :)09:16
eddyetonyyarusso: no :(09:16
Gomez_could someone help me out with a ubuntu server install on which I want to install a gnome but not all the apps ubuntu installs by defaut09:16
pinkisntwellzillake: lol ok09:16
tonyyarussoeddye, All right.09:16
graftLinfan, if you're running the latest X-org, it ought to autodetect most monitors09:16
jtibaupero igual que repositorio deberia usar??? configure el synaptics para que cogiera casi todos los repositorios que ogrece el ubuntu... pero igual no lo encuentra. Creo que esa libreria es un poco vieja?? no es posible que la hayan sacado?09:16
graftyou don't have to tell it anything special09:16
eddyegraft: i know but it isnt09:16
Linfanhow do i update to the latest xorg?09:16
zillakeanyway: anybody knows how to install a previous version of nvidia-driver ? (or how to fix 'noise' in the pictures)09:17
eddyeit detects it as Default Monitor09:17
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ZahrberI am trying to get my D-Link DWL-122 USB adapter to work and all the tuts I have tried have failed anyone know something to help09:17
graftapt-get install xserver-xorg09:17
eliajtibau, sigue los pasos tal y como te indica y veras, despues de eso vuelve a instalar lo q necesitas09:17
eddyei didn't have this problem ever09:17
pashawjtibau,   language?09:17
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eddyegraft: i'll try that :)09:17
grafteddye, i'm not sure what your problem is... i missed it09:17
dannyim trying to install a login page, ive got gnome art but unsure how to actually change the loginscreen09:17
eddyegraft: it isn't detecting my Monitror right09:17
Gomez_yes but then I only have the x server09:17
Gomez_and I want the gnome window manager09:18
Gomez_without all the apps09:18
grafteddye: what does it say?09:18
eddyeand it doesnt let me in gnome display manager09:18
jtibauok, voy a intentar, ya regreso09:18
pashaw!es09:18
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:18
eddyegraft: thats the problem that i dont have configured right the display or something like that09:18
eliadate pues jtibau, me avisas,09:18
Linfanok it says i have the latest version09:18
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grafteddye: does your X server run okay?09:19
eddyeat first i taught it was my driver but i was wrong :S09:19
Linfani need to fix my refresh rate is set at 6009:19
eddyegraft: no :(09:19
eliaubotu, no problem, try to help someone09:19
ubotuelia: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:19
graftwhat does your log file say?09:19
Gomez_...09:19
ZambbaHey guys. Never buy a Maxtor!09:19
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eddyegraft: wait09:19
pashawelia,    ubotu is a bot09:19
Vanderokay, I am -completely- new to linux09:19
ZambbaMy Maxtor just lost (4th time ever) all its data09:19
Vanderwell, almost..09:20
Gomez_anyone knows how to install gnome on ubuntu without installing al the apps?09:20
tonyyarussoVander, So how are you liking it so far?09:20
Vandernot bad09:20
eliapashaw, no problem09:20
Kyralonly time I had problems with a Maxtor was when the USB HD fell offa the table :D09:20
Vanderit's a little complicated though09:20
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eddyegraft: now it says "The X server is now disabled"09:20
Kyral:D09:20
Linfani have an intel graphics card so i assume either i740 or i810 are intel drivers?09:20
KyralI'm in a hack fest right now09:20
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psusiGomez_: yes... install each package ( that ubuntu-desktop depends on ) you want by hand, and not the ones you don't09:20
ZambbaGomez_: If you mean those additional programs with come with a full Ubuntu install, install Ubuntu minimal (server-option) and then apt-get install gnome09:20
Vanderfor starters, what is Smart Update?09:20
dannyanyone no how i can change the login theme09:21
Gomez_zambba: it doesnt find the package gnome09:21
grafteddye, which log file are you looking at? cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:21
Gomez_psusi: could you tell me which packages that are?09:21
eddyeCrtl+Alt+F7 :)09:21
Linfanand ubuntu doesnt support 32 but?09:21
KyralVander: tries to resolve as many depends as it can09:21
KyralLinfan: yes09:21
Linfanbit*09:21
tonyyarussoGomez_, universe.09:21
psusiGomez_: look at ubuntu-desktop in synaptic09:21
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keyhackDoes Ubuntu come with bootsplash already on it?09:21
Gomez_psusi cant reach synaptic since there's no window manager on my system yet09:21
Gomez_tonyyarusso, thanks09:22
VanderOh, crapness. we don't get new windows for Messages, do we?09:22
psusiGomez_: ahh... then you would need to mess around with apt-get and apt-cache to list the depends of the package09:22
Gomez_psusi ok thanks09:22
Gomez_thanks for the help, guys!09:22
dannyt09:22
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Savage_Orchello09:23
VanderOkay, I just updated after my very first install of Ubuntu, and there are two files left to update (linux*somethinghere*386*) and it told me to use Symantic Smart Update or something like that. How do I use that program?09:23
Savage_Orchow do you tell all the hardware you have in ubuntu linux?09:23
Savage_Orcincluding agp ports09:23
Savage_Orcand pci express ports09:23
Savage_Orc:?09:24
KyralVander: drop to a commandline and issue sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:24
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graftwtf is Symantec Smart Update doing in ubuntu?09:24
eliahow can I know waht version do I have?09:24
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HP_Administratori'm working on setting up a dual boot system with xp pro and ubuntu 6409:24
Vandercan I do that through the terminal?09:24
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eddyeand to say to all of you i am a newb :)09:24
HP_Administratorcould someone tell me if there is yet a working WINE or Cedega for ubuntu 64?09:24
pashawgraft,    huh?    did you read it correctly09:25
KyralVander: yes09:25
KyralVander: Commandline == Terminal09:25
eddyebrb09:25
Vanderwell thank you09:25
bur[n] eranyone know how to change vim themes?09:25
graftpashaw, don't ask me, t hat's what Vander said...09:25
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HP_Administratorthank you09:25
pashawgraft,   lol   its synaptic09:26
Vanderlol09:26
graftOH09:26
grafthaha09:26
VanderI just misread it I guess09:26
Vander:P09:26
HP_AdministratorCould anyone tell me where i would find the x86_64 for WINE for Ubuntu64?09:26
Vanderokay, is there a way to change the screen resolution?09:26
voicui have some problems installing kde3.5. in aptitude i get broken packages because of old versions in the repos (for example libc6-2.3.4 is needed and in the repos there is only 2.3.2). where can i find repos with newer packages?09:26
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graftVander - yeah, hit CTRL-ALT-+ or CTRL-ALT -09:27
mebaran151hey09:27
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mebaran151anyone know anything about multisync09:27
Vanderoh shit, it broke09:27
mebaran151I've set up my sync pairs09:27
kuraiahi all09:27
gnomefreakwhat is the latest version of kde?09:27
gnomefreak3.5?09:27
mebaran151(from evolution to backup) and nothing works09:27
KindredHP_Administrator, there isn't a 64 bit version of wine09:27
graft3.5 is in beta09:27
Vanderit was all in a bubbleish thing09:27
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graft3.4.3 is the latest release09:27
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kuraiahow can i know if i have iptables integrated in the kernel?09:27
jtibauelia: sigue sin encontrar el paquete09:27
gnomefreakgraft, ty09:27
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mebaran151graft, nope 3.5.0 is09:28
diokhi09:28
grafterr... since when?09:28
nandrois  there a way to download files specificly torrents directly to a shared folder on a windows server?  I can get access to the win folders, but they dont show up in the btorrent client as available places to download09:28
psusiHP_Administrator: there isn't one... you have to install the 32 bit version in a 32bit chroot09:28
gnomefreakok lets try what one comes with dapper?09:28
jtibauelia: ya se bajaron todos los repositorios pero sigo con el problema09:28
kalini couldn't open .wma files with the w32 codecs09:28
mebaran151I was reading the release09:28
graftwell, shit09:28
eliaJtibau, despues de hacer esto, dale sudo aptitude update09:28
HP_Administratorah ok09:28
Vanderdammit09:28
Vanderpardon my language09:28
graftnm, apparently kde 3.5 has been out for a month now09:28
jtibauelia: si lo hice09:28
gnomefreakit looked like 3.5 on packages.ubuntu.com but wasnt sure09:28
mebaran151graft, http://www.kde.org/info/3.5.php09:28
voicucan someone tell where can i find repos with newer packages than those kubuntu comes from default09:28
voicu?09:28
Vanderis there a way to change my resolution to something that I can still see the whole screen at?09:29
kalini couln't open .wma files with the w32 codecs09:29
eliametete a #comos alli te ayudan, te espero alli09:29
kuraiakalin install this package gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg_0.8.2-1_i386.deb09:29
graftlooks like ubuntu is still on 3.4.3, tho09:29
mebaran151KDE 3.5.0 is a lot nicer than 3.4.3, but for me, KDE is always buggy09:29
mebaran151especially Kontact, which never does at its options would make you think09:29
graftdoes anyone know how you can track package release cycles?09:29
grafte.g., when are they going to get around to updating amarok packages?09:30
gnomefreakkubuntu-desktop should give me lateset version right?09:30
pashawVander,    dpkg-reconfigure  not working for you?09:30
graftgnomefreak, yeah09:30
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gnomefreakok ty09:30
Vanderthe what?09:31
graftVander, you should be able to do it on the fly09:31
pashawVander,   youll have to hand edit the xorg.conf       under screen    and subsection display09:31
graftwith CTRL-ALT-+, etc.09:31
graftbut your desktop might be virtual09:31
graftso it won't scale down to fit on screen09:31
Vanderyeah, but it messed up the screen and Icouldn't get the full page on my screen09:31
kuraiahow can i know if i have iptables integrated in my kernel?09:31
graftyeah09:31
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graftthere's some way to change that... lemme see if i can remember09:31
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xenexhow do i get .wmv files to play?09:32
Vanderok, what are the commone resolutions that won't make a bubble?09:33
TTilusgraft: do you mean "release cycles" like being able to see when the previous releases have come or like having an estimate of next release date?09:33
VanderI found a program that resizes my reso09:33
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filip_What should i add to my /boot/grub/menu.lst so i can boot in to recovery mode?09:33
grafthey vander... goto um09:33
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grafthttp://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes09:33
graftread the first FAQ09:33
Snake__Hey all09:33
pashawfilip_,    why  did you remove them?09:33
TTilusxenex: try $ totem blah.wmv09:33
Snake__Would anyone in here happen to be a network guru?09:34
voicuDoes someone know a repo where I can find newer packages (for example libc6-2.3.4 not 2.3.2 as in the default repos)? Please, i started pulling my hair out.09:34
xenexTTilus: it says i need to download win32 codecs09:34
Vanderthanks09:34
filip_pashaw: I have not add them yet!09:34
graftTTilus: estimate of next release date09:34
ZambbaSnake__: Say your question. Ask about your problem, don't ask does someone has answer to your unknown problem.09:34
pashawfilip_,   they are added by default  in breezy for sure09:34
TTilusgraft: mm, that would generally be "when it is ready"09:34
graftheh09:35
graftokay09:35
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TTilusgraft: afaik theres no way09:35
kalinit wasn't possible to open .wma files with w32 codecs =(09:35
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kalin=..(09:35
kalin=...(09:35
kalin=:::(09:35
TTilusgraft: ...other than following the development closely09:35
keyhackUbuntu comes with bootsplash already installed right, so I can customize it to be my own theme?09:35
filip_pashaw: If you install grub when you install ubuntu yes but i have Arch to so i need to know what it is i should add to get it.09:35
EpixWhaa? I try to partition my drive and I get stuff saying that the drive is busy. Im on a LiveCD!!!09:35
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dannyt09:35
pashawvoicu,  if your not using the default  repository   desktops  your kinda on your own09:36
skonkeyhack: yes, you can used the themed greeter09:36
TTilusEpix: do you have your drive mounted?09:36
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TTilusEpix: what does sudo mount tell?09:36
Epixone sec09:36
|Lestat|Anyone here familiar with wireless usb adapters that could help me out a little? :)09:36
TTilusEpix: is the drive you are trying to partition listed?09:36
moeais there some way i can watch WMV3 files without building any packages from source?09:36
keyhackDoes ubuntu have a minimalistic install? Or do you use Debian for that?09:36
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lucasvokeyhack: server09:36
skonkeyhack: type "server" at the install bootscreen09:36
Zambbakeyhack: Ubuntu does have a minimalistic install.09:36
Sephranquick emergency question, I'm helping someone out with a half broken harddrive, and I'm using ubuntu live to get it to start...so we can get a few files from windows. What commands are needed to mount?09:37
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keyhacknice, good09:37
Zambbayea "server"09:37
TTiluskeyhack: minimalistic like?09:37
moeaeven if it means converting them to another format09:37
keyhackI want the bare-bones OS installed09:37
pashawfilip_,    read your ubuntu created lines    and backtrack  i suppose09:37
keyhackand want to install packages as I please09:37
skonsephran: www.ubuntuguide.org09:37
Snake__Zambba: I would, but i dont know of the problem yet09:37
TTiluskeyhack: small hd footprint or small memory footprint or what?09:37
Snake__lol09:37
grafthey xenex - use mplayer, it should be able to handle wmvs just fine, unless they're DRM'd09:37
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Snake__How hard would it be to set up linux to share dirs to windows PCs?09:37
gnomefreak!ubuntuguide09:37
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.09:37
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skonSnake__: which way?09:37
ZambbaSephran: mkdir /mnt/windisk and mount -t ntfs (or vfat) /dev/hdXX /mnt/windisk09:37
lucasvokeyhack: and if you need a small X windowsystem, look at the xubuntu-desktop package from main repository09:38
graftSnake__ - windows can't mount ext3, but Linux can mount NTFS okay09:38
xenexgraft: it gave me like 3 errors09:38
Snake__I need to share files from my linux to other PCs09:38
keyhacklucasvo: Yes! I just need X, no WM09:38
xenexgraft: vlcplayer worked but it only got sound09:38
pashawkeyhack,   server install   with xubuntu-desktop     is useful and small09:38
Snake__If not, ill just install windows on here09:38
Zambbalucasvo and keyhack: And if very tiny, apt-get install xserver-xorg xdm fluxbox09:38
lucasvokeyhack: it uses xfce09:38
skonSnake__: probably won't work09:38
graftxenex - ah, then at least it's not encrypted09:38
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Sephranis that a case sensitive command zambba?09:38
Snake__skon: Whys that??09:38
Epix_TTilus: wireless reset... sorry. No, it isnt there.09:38
flixil#gentoo-es09:38
keyhackI don't want a wm at all, this is going to be a set top box for my TV, running X with a Java application09:38
moeaxenex: did you get the following message printed on the console: "[00000302]  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'."09:38
Zambbakeyhack: You need some WM. X doesn't work alone afaik. But you can use Fluxbox, IceWM or other *box.09:38
TTilusSnake__: separate machines and sharing files thru net?  go for samba09:38
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voicupashaw: kde3.5 needs libc6-2.3.4, in the repos there is only libc6-2.3.2 (just an example). I think that there has to be a place where I can find those newer packages because there a lot of people using kde3.5 on kubuntu. They had to get those from somewhere...09:39
graftSnake__ - yeah, use Samba or NFS09:39
AndaresHey09:39
Snake__Is samba a OS09:39
Snake__or program?09:39
AndaresWhat is libstdc++ called?09:39
AndaresSnake__, program09:39
keyhackPeople in ##java said X will use its own low-level UI if no WM is present09:39
flixilups sorry09:39
Snake__Okay is it hard to set up???09:39
ZambbaSephran: It's all lower case. You need to replace /dev/hdXX with real hard disk partition like /dev/hda1 or /dev/hdc3.09:39
TTilusEpix_: weirdo, cant help then, sorry09:39
pashawvoicu,    maybe #kubuntu  would be a better channel09:39
xenexmoea: no09:39
Andareskeyhack, they probably meant TWM09:39
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gnomefreakvoicu,  there is a kubuntu repo to put in your sources list09:39
graftxenex - well, what does it say?09:39
xenexgraft: signal 11 error09:40
keyhackbecause really, the Java app is going to run full-screen, and I don't want any windows decorations09:40
Vanderwhat's the difference between tar.gz and tar.bz2?09:40
graftSnake__  - depends, how savvy are you?09:40
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pashawSnake__,   no its not   but youll have to read the directions  or a guide on the net09:40
gnomefreak!tell voicu about easysource09:40
xenexgraft: and the other 2 errors say mplayer crashed09:40
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cmathesonVander: bz2 is higher compression09:40
keyhackI won't be using it for anything other than this sole Java TV application09:40
Vanderokay, thanks09:40
TTilusSnake__: go google, samba is windows networking copatibility software for unices09:40
xenexgraft: i also get a little sound in the beginning but then errors pop up09:40
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cmathesonkeyhack: if you don't want window decorations just don't use a window-manager09:40
graftxenex - hmm, ouch. how big is the file?09:40
ZambbaVander: They are compressed with different compression method. .gz = gzip, .bz2 = bzip2.09:40
pashawSnake__,   even better   google   samba guide09:40
keyhackcmatheson: People are saying you can't use X without a wm here09:40
ZambbaVander: bzip2 can compress it smaller09:40
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Vanderand what does the Tar stand for?09:40
xenexgraft: 5.8mb09:40
AndaresWhat is libstdc++ called in apt-get??!!!09:40
cmathesonkeyhack: that's wildly untrue, i've done it a million times09:41
gnomefreak!samba09:41
ubotuwell, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently09:41
xwolf-when i click administrator mode in kubuntu, it just asks the password, i type it but nothing changes after the load up, why is that?09:41
Snake__okay09:41
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keyhackcmatheson: So then just do a server install, and then install "xserver-xorg" and I'm done?09:41
graftxenex - wanna email it to me?09:41
cmathesonkeyhack: just make a ~/.xsession file (it has to be executable), w/ 'exec whatever_your_program_is'09:41
pashawgnomefreak,   not sure why using ubotu  didnt pop into my head09:41
Snake__Another question: I got a 266 mhz, 64 mb RAM PC for the server, what GUI would run okay on it aside from fluxbox09:41
xenexgraft: okay, what is your email?09:41
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gnomefreakpashaw, lol09:41
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gnomefreakits so much easier :)09:41
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keyhackcmatheson: From experience, getting X to work with my video card from a server install is a pain09:42
keyhackbut I haven't in like a year or so, so no idea how things progressed09:42
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cmathesonkeyhack: hmm, what kind of videocard is it?09:42
keyhackwith the server install too, I still want the bootsplash, so I'm sure I have to find a way to get that post-install09:42
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graftAndares - libstdc++<some number>09:42
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Andaresgraft09:42
Andaresit breaks09:43
Andares:(09:43
keyhackcmatheson: No idea, I havent touched it in a while09:43
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xwolf-when i click administrator mode in kubuntu, it just asks the password, i type it but nothing changes after the load up, why is that?09:43
cmathesonkeyhack: unless you're way hurting for space you could still just do the standard desktop install09:43
graftAndares - it breaks? how so?09:43
Epixok, cfdisk also says that the device is busy. but it isnt...09:43
keyhackcmatheson: Space is not an issue09:43
AndaresFailed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/libgcc1_4.0.0-7ubuntu6~5.04ubp1_i386.deb  404 Not Found09:43
pashawSnake__,   try  xubuntu09:43
graftAndares - apt-get update09:43
Snake__pashaw: I was thinkin about that, would xfce run alright on that system?09:43
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markrianpsusi: won't "rm .*" remove . and .. ?09:43
cmathesonkeyhack: yeah, so just go ahead and install everything and save yourself the pain09:43
Andaresgraft, still errors09:43
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keyhackcmatheson: But I don't want Gnome/KDE and all that garbage to run09:44
dermsdoes this distro crash for anyone else in X11?09:44
graftAndares - get a diff. mirror09:44
pashawSnake__,   made a world of diff on my 192mb laptop09:44
Andaresgraft, how?09:44
markrianpsusi: the hidden directories I want to delete are non-empty09:44
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cmathesonkeyhack: that's ok, just cuz it's installed doesn't mean it has to run09:44
pashawSnake__,   you can forget gnome and kde09:44
skonmarkrian: rm -rf *09:44
Snake__pashaw: all right ill try it09:44
Snake__I knew those wouldn't run09:44
Snake__lol09:44
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graftAndares - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive09:44
Vanderokay, what would be an msn messenger that you would recommend?09:44
Snake__If I cant get linux to share my files, imma go drag my ass to putting XP on it09:44
Snake__lol09:44
pashawSnake__,   do a server install   then  apt-get install xubuntu-desktop09:44
markrianskon: tried that, didn't delete dot files09:44
cmathesonkeyhack: all you're going to have ot do is make a ~/.xsession file that runs the stuff you want (and it won't run *anything* except what you specify there)09:44
keyhackcmatheson: Ah, ok09:45
keyhackcmatheson: Thanks for all your ideas09:45
Vanderkey heh09:45
Sephranmkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/windisk': Permission denied09:45
Vander*twiddles me thimbles*09:45
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gnomefreakSephran, use sudo09:45
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gnomefreaksudo mkdir ......09:46
Sephransudo mount /mnt/windisk    ?09:46
Sephranerr09:46
Sephranmkdir09:46
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lucasvoSephran: yes09:46
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graftVander - use gaim... it's pretty much awesome09:46
|GaiJin|is there a place that lists diffrent backport locations?? Or have anyone here a source for TeamSpeak??09:46
NCLifegood day everyone.. how can i rename /usr/bin/eject to /usr/bin/eject_orig, and created a shell script /usr/bin/eject?09:46
gnomefreakgaim 2.0 is nice :)09:46
cmathesonkeyhack: no problem, good luck09:46
Vanderis gaim an AIM clone?09:46
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NCLifecreate*09:46
gnomefreaknot stable but nice :)09:46
lucasvoNCLife: begin with sudo mv /usr/bin/eject /usr/bin/eject_orig09:47
gnomefreakVander, yes kind of09:47
graftVander - started off that way... now it supports like 12 different IM protocols09:47
Zambba|GaiJin|: Try out www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic . But I'm afraid that you can't get Teamspeak in a .deb09:47
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Vanderdude09:47
NCLifeokayz lucas :)09:47
Vandercool09:47
gnomefreakgaim can connect to all different im clients09:47
Vandergaim it is :)09:47
garyccan anyone help me install opera browser - i hope with synaptic  -   all my mlti and universes are on-  no opera09:47
Vanderthanks :)09:47
pashawSnake__,    read this  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingXubuntu09:47
|GaiJin|Zambba, Thanks09:47
gnomefreakgaryc, nope go to opera.com and get the static version09:47
graftsorry, it only supports 9 different IM protocols...09:47
lucasvoNCLife: but it may be a little bit tricky for e.g. gnome wouldn't be able to eject the discs anymore09:47
Sephranstep two, mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk   ?09:48
ilba7rgaryc opera webpage has a repos for deb installation09:48
gnomefreakgaryc,  there is an opera repo you can add to sources.list09:48
Snake__pashaw: I know how to get xubuntu ;)09:48
gnomefreak!easysource09:48
ubotuI heard easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:48
gnomefreaktheres an opera repo there09:48
Sephranjust as a note, the hard disk isnt showing up in diskstations ....and I also dont know if it's in ntfs or fat09:48
garycI am there how do i look for static09:48
skonSephran: what's the OS?09:48
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Sephranwindows xp09:48
Vanderwow, Gaim also supports IRC >.>09:49
gnomefreakgaryc,  use easysource its easier09:49
skonSephran: ntfs09:49
gnomefreakVander, yes it does :)09:49
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gnomefreaki havent tried irc on gaim yet and dont really plan to09:49
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NCLifelucasvo, uuh.. :S the problem is my ipod dont ejects properly, so i read a post in the forums where i should make a small shell script which checks what is being ejected, and if it is an iPod, use sudo to eject it.09:50
Sephranubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount -t ntfs /mnt/windisk09:50
Sephranmount: only root can do that09:50
Vandergnomefreak: which download should I take? fedora core, mandrake, red hat?09:50
gnomefreakVander, for what?09:50
lucasvoNCLife: in that case it shouldn't be any problem09:50
|Lestat|can anyone here give me a  hand trouble shooting my weireless usb? (i can see it, it just wont pull an ip from the router)09:50
Vanderfor gaim09:50
dannycan anyone help me to change the login theme plz09:50
gnomefreakgaim what?09:50
gnomefreakgaim is in the repos09:51
NCLifeoks :)09:51
graftVander - gaim is in ubuntu09:51
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install gaim09:51
Vanderrepos..?09:51
Vanderoh...?09:51
lucasvodanny: system > administration > logintheme09:51
Vanderoh, I see. Thanks :)09:51
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Sephranubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk09:51
Sephranmount: only root can do that     :(09:51
gnomefreakVander, ubuntu install default installs gaim09:51
Snake__Can 98SE read NTFS.....?09:51
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Epixoh. damn. Nobody can fix this! I can only resize my boot and swap partition! The other is aparently busy! It isnt mounted!!! Help :'(09:51
odathi everyone09:51
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xiaogilhow to read the syslog ?09:52
gnomefreakgo to applications>internet>gaim09:52
NCLifelucasvo,  so after ive renamed it, how can i start making a shell script usr/bin/eject?09:52
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SephranI'm definatly forgetting something, but what?09:52
gjchelp, what to do to file a bug report against a package that launchpad.net doesn't recognize?09:52
graftEpix - are you in a mounted directory in the shell?09:52
lucasvoNCLife: gksudo gedit /usr/bin/eject09:52
ZambbaSephran: Put sudo in front of the mount command.09:52
skonSephran: sudo ?09:52
gnomefreakgjc,  applications>systemtools>bugzilla09:52
Sephran....damn sudo, he needs to be shot09:53
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lucasvoNCLife: or sudo vi /usr/bin/eject09:53
gnomefreakor bug report tool whatever its called09:53
NCLifeokay, and that will open a programm where i simply copy/paste the script code?09:53
ZambbaSnake__: Win95, Win98 and WinMe can read only FATs.09:53
dannylucasvo, thanks for that easier then i thought09:53
Epixgraft: no.09:53
gnomefreakgjc, what ubuntu version do you have?09:53
gjcgnomefreak: really? doesn't that bug report to bugzilla.gnome.org?09:53
Snake__Zambba: thanks09:53
gjcgnomefreak: breezy09:53
gnomefreakyes gjc09:53
Sephranubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk09:54
Sephranmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,09:54
gnomefreaktheres bug in breezy?09:54
Sephran       missing codepage or other error09:54
pashaw!bugzilla09:54
ubotuI guess bugzilla is at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com09:54
Sephran       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try09:54
Sephran       dmesg | tail  or so                  it seems to me, hda1 isnt the one? I can't check wich one it ought to be09:54
gjcgnomefreak: it's not a gnome package, it's a universe package (libortp)09:54
eliahow i can know what version do I have?09:54
graftEpix - what is the other partition?09:54
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gnomefreakgjc,  bugzilla isnt just for gnome09:54
skonSephran: you need umask type09:54
gnomefreakits for ubuntu in general09:54
garycgnomefreak, point me to getting and setting up the repository09:55
Sephranand that is skon?  ..I'm a 20 minute ubuntu live newbie with HD problems ;)09:55
gjcgnomefreak: I'm not sure I agree with that :)09:55
Epixgraft: i big one for / ... everything but /boot09:55
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gnomefreakgjc,  it is for ubuntu not for gnome09:55
pashawSephran,   sudo fdisk -l      should list your drive info09:55
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skonSephran: 1 sec09:55
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keyhackWhat packages do I install after a "server" install to get the bootsplash?09:55
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graftEpix - how are you trying to partition it?09:55
gnomefreakgaryc,  do you have the repo for opera yet?09:56
gjcgnomefreak: bugzilla.gnome.org? you must mean bugzilla.ubuntu.org09:56
garycgnomefreak, no09:56
gnomefreakgjc,  yes ubuntu09:56
gjcah :)09:56
Sephranit's listing a few things, to whom can paste the message for review?09:56
skonSephran:  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=022209:56
Sephrancan I*09:56
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kat0any ideas why no-one but root can access files on a cd-r drive? fresh 5.10 install09:56
gnomefreakgaryc, go to easysource and check the boxes next to the opera repo and hit send09:56
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skonkat0: is it mounted?09:57
murrumm.. should XV work with the proprietary ATI drivers?09:57
pashaw!tell Sephran about pastebin09:57
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gnomefreakthan you need to paste the output in your /etc/apt/sources.list file09:57
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gnomefreak!easysource09:57
ubotuwell, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:57
pashaw!pastebin09:57
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:57
kat0skon: i'm not sure, how do i check?09:57
NCLifelucasvo, and finaly, where is my sudoers file? i need to put there some little code09:57
gjcgnomefreak: problem is, bugzilla.ubuntu.com redirects to launchpad.net for bugs in universe packages09:57
graftkat0 - sudo mount09:57
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gjcgnomefreak: and launchpad.net doesn't recognize libortp :/09:58
Vanderholy shiznut, how do you install stuff?09:58
gnomefreakgjc,  are you using gnome right now?09:58
skonkat0: sudo mount09:58
lucasvoNCLife: find sudo09:58
gjc*sigh* you really are a gnome freak, gnomefreak :)09:58
kat0thanks graft. i don't see it09:58
gnomefreakgjc,  you click the bug report tool it will send you to right place09:58
lucasvoNCLife: locate is even better09:58
graftkat0 - how can root read it?09:58
lucasvoNCLife: /etc/sudoers09:58
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skonVander: please ask a more specific question if you want it answered09:59
gnomefreakseeing as this is ubuntu not kubuntu these are directions for gnome09:59
gjcgnomefreak: i'm using gnome, but this is a simple library, unrelated to gnome platform09:59
Sephranhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/633809:59
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NCLifethankss09:59
gnomefreakgjc,  use the tool or dont im telling you its not just for gnome09:59
Linux_whorewhat is the /dev device for a usb card reader plugged into the front of a pc?09:59
gnomefreaki just used it to search for kubuntu issue09:59
kat0only root has read/write access. users get no permissions error.09:59
gjcgnomefreak: unless it doesn't file bugs to gnome.org... I'll try, thanks10:00
murrcould anyone using the proprietary ATI drivers tell whether XV works for them?10:00
cmathesonLinux_whore: it probably wouldn't have a device file until you plugged something that is a device into it (like a card)10:00
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kat0let me put in a disc and try mounting it again.10:00
Sephranthe thing I pasted, hda1 is the main windos HD?10:00
skonSephran: you're trying to boot hda1 as an ntfs and it doesn't work that way, you must do fat32 ro something10:00
graftkat0 - i mean, how are you trying to read and write to it?10:00
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gjc*sigh*10:00
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gjc"System Tools -> Bug report tool" just launches epiphany with bugzilla.ubuntu.com :(10:00
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Sephransudo mount -t fat32 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk   ?10:01
SycheDoes anyone know the requirements in the kernel for the bootsplash. Which modules _have_ to be selected10:01
lucasvogjc: what do you want to bugreport?10:01
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Sychefor a custom kernel10:01
flixilhi kuraia10:01
skonSephran: try it10:01
kuraiahi flixil10:01
graftSephran - can you post your sudo mount output?10:01
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gjclucasvo: just missing .pc file in libortp0-dev10:01
kuraiaflixil how are you?10:01
barroany know how to configure a "webcam creative nx ultra"? It does not exist driver10:02
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Linux_whorewhen dual booting xp and ubuntu, does there need to be any unpartitioned free space left on a single hdd?10:02
Hecxahi, recommended and minimun system requirements for Ubuntu? (link?)10:02
Sephranubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t fat32 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk10:02
flixilI am ready... Do you want to start?10:02
Dr_AcemasterLinux_whore: have room for swap space?10:02
Sephranmount: unknown filesystem type 'fat32'10:02
Sephranubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t fat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk10:02
Sephranmount: unknown filesystem type 'fat'10:02
Sephranubuntu@ubuntu:~$10:02
Sychesephran   vfat10:02
Linux_whoredr_acemaster: yes, i mean after ubuntu is installed and the swap partition has been made10:02
gnomefreak!botsnack10:03
ubotu:)10:03
Dr_AcemasterLinux_whore: shouldn't need anymore space10:03
Dr_Acemasterwould just be wasted :)10:03
graftSephran, what does just "sudo mount" say?10:03
SephranIll pastebin it, hold on10:03
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skonyes Sephran change to vfat10:04
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Sephranhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/633910:05
Linux_whoreshould swap be the only logical partition?10:05
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eddye"Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It islikely that is not set correctrly" Anyone knows this problem?10:05
Sephranhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6338 for disk info10:05
HecxaI suppose PIII 700Mhz 256Mt is enough to run Ubuntu smoothly enough?10:06
skonSephran: it looks like it's mounted already10:06
lucasvoHecxa: you will probably have problem with gnome10:06
skonSephran: try cd /mnt/hda1 then do ls -alh10:06
eddye"Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It islikely that is not set correctrly" Anyone knows this problem?10:06
coNPHecxa: depends on the apps you want to run10:06
lucasvoHecxa: you could try xubuntu-desktop10:06
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lucasvoeddye: you have an error in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:06
eddyelucasvo: how can i fix it?10:07
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coNPHecxa: I would say this will be enough for gnome10:07
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Sephran cd /mnt/hda1 doesnt work,  cd /mnt/windisk does10:07
graftSephran - looks like you're good to go10:07
lucasvoeddye: depends on what H/w you have10:07
gjcok, for the record, the bug I wanted to report is no bug :P10:07
Hecxalucasvo, coNP, ok.. thanks..10:08
skonSephran: yup, my typo....looks like it works10:08
gjcthe .pc file is only available in 1.2.x version, not 1.0.x :P10:08
gjccheers10:08
Sephranwell..where do I access visually the HD?10:08
eddyelucasvo: i am a newb = can you say to me less professionaly :)10:08
kuraiadoes anybody want to play typespeed with me?10:08
keyhackWhat packages do I install after a "server" install to get the bootsplash?10:08
skonSephran: Places | Computer10:08
Sephranah found it, under file system10:08
xiaogili can't make mysql work on ubuntu... can someone help me ? I put the syslog is at : http://ubuntu-fr.pastebin.ca/3520110:09
lucasvoeddye: you didn't configure the X correctly...10:09
lucasvoeddye: there are 10000 possibilities10:09
skonCheers Sephran :-D10:09
puffDammit...10:09
puffMy laptop thinks it's running on battery poiwer.10:09
lucasvoeddye: first you need to determine which graphic card it is10:09
skoneddye: could be caused by a graphix card10:09
puffBut it's plugged into the dock.10:09
skonpuff: check for loose connections10:09
eddyeAti Radeon 900010:10
MrMazdalucasvo: on http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/Font/fonts-comps-dejavu.html are sans mono oblique and sans mono bold oblique identical for you?10:10
Sephranthanks for everything, now it seems some of the files are also on the D partition, wich would be hda2 ?  also..I'm looking to transfer over the files through the network to the laptop10:10
eddye65536 KB10:10
eddye:)10:10
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puffskon: Just did... the screen got brighter when I docked it,which is usually a sign that it's getting power.10:10
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Vanderokay, I am trying to install GCC, but I seem to be unable to determine exactly what I am supposed to do, since Installation in Linux is quite different from anything else. Would anyone be able to guide me through the "installation" process please?10:11
skonpuff: hmm.....is the laptop-support package installed?10:11
zenlunatichow do i get "libtoolize"?10:11
lucasvoMrMazda: no they don't10:11
lucasvoMrMazda: the one is italic :D10:11
Linux_whoreshould a fat32 partition be on a logical on primary partition?10:11
MrMazdaare you on breezy lucasvo ?10:11
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lucasvoMrMazda: no10:11
skonVander: first learn how to enable your respoitories then do sudo apt-get install gcc10:11
lucasvoMrMazda: dapper10:11
puffHeh.... now it just jumped from "System is running on battery power/8 minutes (4%) left" to ""System is running on battery power/2 hours 29 minutes (4%) left"10:11
HecxaI am currently using Vector Linux on this old laptop to do the shit'n tricks, and hoping Ubuntu isnt at least much slower to use.. time to kind a "chance socks"10:12
skon!repositories10:12
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource10:12
MrMazdacan anyone on breezy goto http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/Font/fonts-comps-dejavu.html and see if sans mono oblique and sans mono bold oblique identical for you?10:12
graftVander : sudo apt-get install gcc10:12
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puffHm, no, laptop-mode is installed, but not laptop-support.10:12
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puffI guess (looking at "aptitude search laptop") that laptop-mode is the package you're talking about.10:13
eddyeanyone knows how to configure the **** xorg.conf10:13
eddye?10:13
Vanderwhere can I see a "list" of "repositories" available for me to download?10:13
Linux_whoredoes it matter if a fat32 partition is on a logical on primary partition?10:13
MrMazdalucasvo: firefox, or konq?10:13
lucasvoMrMazda: firefox of course... :D10:14
puffHm, laptop-mode-tools.10:14
moodogeddye: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xord10:14
Sephrancan someone tell me some of the basic stpes, of accessing the network..specificly the laptop on the other end?10:14
AnonymousHiveeddye: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:14
moodogeddye: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:14
skonpuff: yeah , sorry...dunno what's wrong10:14
MrMazdalucasvo: here FF gets it wrong, and Konq gets it right10:14
eddyeAnonymousHive: tryed that moodog: tryed that too10:14
AnonymousHiveDo you have xorg installed?10:14
eddyeAnonymousHive:10:14
eddyeyes10:14
AnonymousHiveI believe it comes standard with Breezy10:14
moodogeddye: what problems do you get?10:14
AnonymousHiveAre you running Breezy?10:14
eddye"Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It islikely that is not set correctrly"10:15
skonVander: do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and get rid of all the #'s in front of the websites and then save it, then do sudo apt-get update then install gcc10:15
Zambba!easysource10:15
ubotueasysource is, like, totally, For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:15
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moodogeddye: anything in the X logs?10:15
eddyenothing special10:16
ludiis there a way to install ubuntu by pointing to the ISO file on a local hard drive?10:16
cmathesonludi: you could mount the iso as a loopback file (unless you're going to delete that partition)10:16
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garycgnomefreak, i went into repositories  i don't see easysource  or opera check boxes10:17
jonohi all10:17
jonowhich kernel option do I choose for the ralink rt2500 wireless driver?10:17
eddyeI spended 8Hours working with my problems and no succes so can anyone please help me with my problems :)10:17
MrMazdalucasvo: here FF 1.0.7 makes both non-bold, FF 1.5 makes both bold, and Konq gets it right (one normal, other bold)10:17
moodogjono: hi here too :)10:17
cmatheson!tell eddye about anyone10:17
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skonjono: search the Ubuntu Wiki for that...there's a whole tutorial on it10:17
lucasvoMrMazda: did you get my query?10:17
Vanderah crap, how do we save a file from the ommand line again? >.>10:17
ludicmatheson:  no I mean like booting from the floppy installer and then pointing to like the location on a local hard drive that has the ISO file already downloaded10:17
eddyeAnd how can I make a default xorg.conf file?10:17
cmathesonVander: what do you mean?10:17
moodogeddye: if thats the only error message and there is nothing in the log files it's going to be hard to help10:17
MrMazdalucasvo: what query?10:17
lucasvoMrMazda: what I wrote you10:18
eddyemoodog: how can i make a default xorg config10:18
moodogeddye: remove xorg and reinstall?10:18
cmathesonludi: you could boot off floppy's (i've heard there are instructions in the forum or something), and then you could only point it to a cd on your hard-drive if you mounted it as a loop-back file and didn't delete that partition10:18
skonVander: once you're in nano, do Ctrl O10:18
eddyehow do i reinstall10:18
eddyeand remove10:18
eddyeI'm such a newb :(10:18
Vanderright, thanks10:18
AnonymousHiveuse sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg10:18
AnonymousHivethen use sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg10:19
Epixare nofstab and noswap valid cheatcodes?10:19
AmaranthAnonymousHive: eek, no10:19
MrMazdalucasvo: my chat client blocks private messages10:19
AnonymousHivelol Amaranth10:19
ludicmatheson:  why do I need to mount it as a loop-back file?  I have 2 hard drives on my local PC, so the ISO would be on the other hard drive (not the one I'm installing to)10:19
moodogeddye: or copy one of the backups that are in the /etc/X11/?10:19
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AmaranthAnonymousHive: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg10:19
AnonymousHiveAaaah10:19
lucasvoMrMazda: hm, can't you unblock10:19
AnonymousHiveThat's a new one >.>10:19
AnonymousHivelol10:19
AmaranthAnonymousHive: or just sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, if that's what you're after10:19
eddyemoodog: tryed that ill try the AnonymousHive hint10:19
eddyebe right back10:19
AnonymousHiveAmaranth: He tried that, but it doesn't work for him10:19
eddye:)10:19
MrMazdalucasvo: not without a restart that will loose my scrollbacks in 15 channels10:19
AnonymousHiveNo!10:19
Epixare they?10:19
AnonymousHiveeddye10:20
AnonymousHiveuse what AMaranth said10:20
cmathesonludi: because the installer's not looking for an iso it's looking for a file-system10:20
garycgnomefreak, i went into repositories  i don't see easysource  or opera check boxes10:20
eddyewhat did he said?10:20
AnonymousHive;2~10:20
AnonymousHivesudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg10:20
keyhackWhat package is the bootsplash bundled with?10:20
Amaranthbut xserver-xorg is just a metapackage10:20
lucasvoMrMazda: ok10:20
Amaranthso it won't do anything10:20
eddyeok10:20
jonodoes anyone know if the ralink rt2500 driver is included in the vanilla kernel?10:20
Amaranthexcept bring down ubuntu-desktop and some other stuff that you might not want to lose10:20
AnonymousHiveI love Ubuntu =D10:21
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Amaranthso what are you trying to do?10:21
moodogeddye: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will give you a working xorg.conf10:21
ludicmatheson:  where are ubuntu forums?  looking for these instructions you mention10:21
eddyeAmaranth: reinstall and hope that works10:21
AnonymousHiveAmaranth: He has to configure his xorg.conf, but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work, nore does nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:21
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skonjono: did you check the wiki?10:21
cmathesonludi: i'm not sure... ubuntuforums.org? i would probably just google10:21
eddyemoodog: i tryed that but no succes10:21
MrMazdalucasvo: I focus on the web's impact on people with presbyopia10:21
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melodieeddye why do you want to reinstall it for ?10:21
jonoskon, I did and it says you can use the breezy kernel, but I need to use 2.6.1410:22
eddyemaybe it will change my setting to default10:22
eddye:)10:22
AmaranthAnonymousHive: Doesn't work?10:22
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moodogeddye: what options did you choose?10:22
Amarantheddye: How does sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg not work?10:22
eddyemoodog: dont know10:22
AnonymousHiveAmaranth: It won't let him even access the app10:22
moodogeddye: what gfx card are you using/ do you have the right modules installed?10:22
AnonymousHivelike it's not installed10:22
AmaranthI need error messages. :P10:22
skoneedye: what's wrong with www.ubuntuforums.org?10:22
AnonymousHiveThat is true, detailed error messages are good10:22
Sunn_TI'm installing Ubuntu and it's stuck at 6%. It's been on 6% for about 10min.10:22
moodogAmaranth: we did ask... he said nothing unusual...10:22
Amaranth/etc/X11/xorg.conf isn't there at all?10:22
Amaranthsudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:23
eddyemoodog: yes i have and i am using Ati Radeon 9000 pro 64KB10:23
Amaranthmake sure everything is installed10:23
eddye i mean 64 MB :)10:23
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AnonymousHiveeddye: use ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:23
MrMazdalucasvo: private message blocking prevents the common problem of /msg spammers overloading me with junk tabs10:23
AnonymousHivedoes it pop up anything10:23
ludiis there any way for me to install ubuntu on my PC *without* burning a CD?10:23
eddyeAnonymousHive: wait10:23
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lucasvoMrMazda: I already got the information I wanted10:23
MrMazdaludi: I do it with other distros all the time10:23
moodogMrMazda: I've bene using IRC for over a decade, never had a problem with /msg spamming... so it can't be that common.10:24
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eddyeAnonymousHive:10:24
eddyeno10:24
eddye:(10:24
MrMazdamoodog: it is on moznet10:24
eddyeill reinstall it10:24
eddyewait10:24
ludiMrMazda:  I have a 2nd hard drive in my PC and I just want to install ubuntu to it, but I don't have access to a burner10:24
ZambbaI've had /msg spamming only on one network.10:24
garyccan anyone help me install opera browser - i hope with synaptic  -   all my mlti and universes are on-  no opera10:24
Amarantheddye: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:24
Amarantheddye: make sure everything is installed10:24
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keyhackDoes anyone know much about Ubuntu's usplash?10:25
eddyeAmaranth:10:25
eddyewait :)10:25
MrMazdaludi: you need some kind of Linux live CD to start with to put the installation kernel, initrd, and grub on the disk to get you started10:25
ludiMrMazda: what about a install floppy?10:26
MrMazdaor use PXE boot10:26
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garyccan anyone help me install opera browser - i hope with synaptic  -   all my mlti and universes are on-  no opera10:26
eddyeAmaranth: i need the CD but i lost it wait ill search it10:26
MrMazdafloppies can't fit 2.6 kernels10:26
eddye:)10:26
ludiMrMazda: I don't have a PXE server10:26
Zambbagaryc: Easiest way is to go to Opera Software's download site and download a right Ubuntu package to your home folder. Then say "sudo dpkg -i opera_XXXXX.deb" (replace XXXX:s with real filename). If that ends to an error, say also "sudo apt-get -f install" that will fix broken dependencies.10:26
Sunn_TWhy is Ubuntu installing all types of stuff and still on 6%?10:26
AmaranthSunn_T: it most likely broke10:26
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MrMazdaludi: is there someone you can get a live CD like Knoppix from?10:26
moodoggaryc: try looking at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser10:26
AmaranthSunn_T: hit alt-3 and/or alt-4 and see if you can see error messages10:26
Sunn_TWhat can I do?10:27
garycZambba, i did that and got dependency errors10:27
AmaranthSunn_T: Try burning the CD at a slower speed.10:27
ZambbaOkay. sudo apt-get -f install should fix them.10:27
ludiThis is frustrating10:27
moodoggaryc:  apt-get -f install ?10:27
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garycZambba, got it  trying10:28
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garycmoodog, got it  I am trying10:28
moodoggaryc: check that url, it has some useful tips about adding things into the menus etc10:28
jd_Hey guys how do i make a SQL server for ubuntu10:28
ludiCan I burn the Ubuntu ISO to a DVD+R?10:28
binarydigitjd_: install a sql server through apt10:29
Sunn_TI don't see anything when I press Alt+3 or Alt+4.10:29
MrMazdaludi: theoretically it's possible to do from windoze, but I've never investigated10:29
jd_ok10:29
ludiDo I just download the regular ISO file if I want to burn it to a DVD?10:29
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Sunn_T.ISO is for CD.10:30
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moodogludi: there is a DVD install image.... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ for links10:30
xiaogili can't make mysql work on ubuntu... can someone help me ? I put the syslog is at : http://ubuntu-fr.pastebin.ca/3520110:30
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ludimoodog: why are there not any US mirros for the DVD install image?10:30
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FireRabbitsomeone know why it is OK for ubuntu to include mp3/aac/xvid/etc. in multiverse but not libdvdcss?10:31
moodogludi: no one in the US has offered to mirror it?10:31
MrMazdaludi: if u wait until evening US time the Euro mirrors are fast10:31
mjrFireRabbit, probably civil vs. criminal sanctions...10:31
haakonnFireRabbit:  i do suspect dmca/eucd10:31
MrMazdamost there are asleep10:31
munzirhi sirs, what's the recommended way to install dapper? any doc? should I just download a nighty dvd for example and then keep it updated? what if the iso I downloaded turned not to install at all?10:31
Sunn_TIs it OK to use a VIA type Mainboard?10:31
FireRabbitwhy wouldnt the DMCA effect the MP3/AAC libraries in the same way then?10:32
moodogludi: avoid the polish mirror and you should be fine.10:32
haakonnmp3/aac/etc don't "break protections" like decss does10:32
Sephranhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6340  <---  I'm trying to mount the D partition, it's a ..logical partition of the same HD ..C: is10:32
FireRabbithaakonn, decryption vs. decoding?10:32
Vanderman, I feel like crying. Okay, I'm getting started, I've went an unquoted everything in source.list, and I've apt-get the gcc files, -how do I "install" gcc on linux-?10:32
haakonnFireRabbit:  yes, xvid isn't made to protect against decoding, css is (yeah right, but you know what i mean)10:32
Vanderor any programs in general10:32
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moodogVander: apt-get install gcc10:32
haakonnFireRabbit:  of course i'm just speculating as to the reason10:32
Vanderokay, can you tell me what "apt-get" stands for please?10:33
moodogVander: sudo apt-get install gcc10:33
FireRabbithaakonn, well it sounds like it makes sense10:33
haakonnbut i know it's a bad situation, i wasn't able to get a dvd playing in ten minutes, and that's too hard :)10:33
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cmathesonVander: aptitude install build-essential10:33
moodogVander: it's the name of the download and installtion tool for .deb files10:33
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FireRabbitanyone know for sure if haakonn is correct?10:33
VanderThank you!10:33
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Sturgeonwhen i try to create a new shell with "screen", i see a message on the bottom which says "could not write /var/run/utmp: no such process". Any idea what this is?10:33
garycmoodog, OK it is in  - -  now how do I  install the latest flash plugin for opera10:33
melodieVander: do 'man apt' in you console, an all that you don't know, 'man whatever' and you see what it stands for  :)10:34
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Epixok10:34
Epixim mad.10:34
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NCLifeanyone knows why when i type "sudo eject /dev/sda2" it says "unable to open `/dev/sda2'"?10:35
moodoggaryc: dunno... try googling?  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76236.html seems to discuss the topic10:35
Epixgparted does its thing, no errors until "Some changes were made to busy devices" comes up... THE DEVICE WAS NOT BUSY! Then, I click OK, everything reloads and voila, nothing has changed!10:35
munzirhi sirs, what's the recommended way to install dapper? any doc? should I just download a nighty dvd for example and then keep it updated? what if the iso I downloaded turned not to install at all?10:35
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datagrrrHi..i am newbie. How can i make an application (xmms in my situation) to play mp3s by default?10:35
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Sunn_TI'm installing Ubuntu. I have 2 partitions. One is 19.5GB and the other is 500MB. What file system should I put on the 19.5GB one?10:35
cmathesonEpix: you need to reboot after you mess w/ your partition tables10:35
Sturgeondatagrrr: click on an mp3, and choose "opens with"10:35
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cmathesonSunn_T: /10:36
garycmoodog, hey I looked at my menus  applications and I don't see how to run opera10:36
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moodoggaryc: you follow the 2nd bit of the url I pointed you too earlier?10:36
Sephranhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6340 <--- I'm trying to mount the D partition, it's a ..extended partition I think of the same HD ..C: is10:36
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datagrrrsturgon: they are still opened by Totem.10:36
Vanderokay, GCC is installed, what folder would I find installed programs under?10:37
Sephranwhat am I doing wrong, command wise?10:37
moodogVander: try which gcc10:37
Sturgeondatagrrr: You went to an mp3 file, right clicked, and clicked on "opens with" and chose xmms?10:37
Sunn_Tcmatheson - Should I make the 19.5 "Ext3 journaling file system" ?10:37
Epixcmatheson: it better work :P... /me reboots.10:37
VanderAh!10:37
Vanderthanks again10:37
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garycmoodog, I found it.  back in a minute10:37
Sunn_Tcmatheson - OR Should I make the 19.5 "physical volume for LVM"?10:38
adrian__i have a problem, i got installed no-ip DNS client in ubuntu, but it can't work good, i configured it and i saw how-to, everything is ok, but it doesn't wanna work yet10:38
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moodogVander: though you should be able to run most things by typing the command name at the prompt (or clicking on the icon in the menu)10:38
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datagrrrSturgeon: Yes, it opens with xmms but after that when i click mp3s in nautilus they re opened by Totem?10:38
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scenestargood eveing room10:38
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adrian__i have a problem, i got installed no-ip DNS client in ubuntu, but it can't work good, i configured it and i saw how-to, everything is ok, but it doesn't wanna work yet, anybody know about it?10:38
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scenestardetails?10:39
sam_hi there10:39
apokryphoshi sam_10:39
Kindreddatagrrr, right click on file - properties - open with10:39
dannyi have changed my login theme and splash screen but i notice tht behind the splash screen it still has a brown background, does anyone know how to change it?10:39
Sturgeoni told him that already10:39
sam_how can upgrade firefow with ubuntu10:39
Sturgeonhe says it wont work10:39
Vanderwhat is the command name, and is there a way to add icons to the menu?10:39
ardchoilledanny: you can change that colour in  gdmsetup10:39
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adrian__exit10:39
dannyardchoille, k thanks10:39
moodogVander: gcc is the command name for gcc :)10:39
ardchoilledanny: in the bottom right of the GTK+ Greeter tab10:40
Vanderthought so10:40
Vanderbut it doesn't work >.>10:40
Sturgeondatagrrr: notice i didn't say "open with" but "opens with"10:40
moodogVander: what are you trying to get it to do?10:40
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sam_how tu upgrade firefox10:40
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scenestarfuck you sam_10:40
VanderI am trying to get it to run, as if I expect it to pop up in a window of some sort, as if I was running Windows -.-10:41
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ludiwhat's the advantage of the ubuntu DVD compared to the CD?10:41
Epix!tell sam_ about french10:41
datagrrrOh :) right...10:41
dannyardchoille, yep sorted thanks10:41
sam_how tu upgrade firefox10:41
Epixaw10:41
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Vanderbut of course, that will never happen, because that's not the way it works, is it? I'm just that much of a newb.10:41
datagrrrsturgeon you re right10:41
Epix!op10:41
ardchoilledanny: yw10:41
ubotuEpix: I give up, what is it?10:41
scenestarsudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade10:41
moodogludi: you seem to be able to burn the DVD and not the CD10:41
Epix!ops10:41
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scenestarsudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade10:41
scenestarsudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade10:41
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ludimoodog: I don't have any blank CDs10:41
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melodiesam_ kick off  !10:41
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odathey anyone know how i can create an image from a game cd10:41
Sturgeonsam_: sorry, what's your question again?10:42
Sturgeon:)10:42
Belboz99Hey, anyone know of an easy way to set up an FTP server?10:42
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dan__anyone help with laptop issues?10:42
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revhow do I add support for my silicon sata controller? I loaded sata_sil but I don't get any devices10:42
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skonBelboz99: sudo apt-get install proftpd10:42
bjvdoes ubuntu have known problems with Sony Viaos?10:42
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ardchoilleSturgeon: LOL10:42
moodogludi: I've never used the DVD so couldn't say.  don't have a DVDR for a start.10:42
pinkisntwellI installed xfce and now I can't change the keyboard language10:42
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scenestardude10:42
Kindredludi I was in the same situation, http://www.imgburn.com/ - if you are in win this program can burn a cd image to dvd and it will work fine10:42
scenestarDO NOT USE PROFTPD10:42
scenestarITS HORRIBLE10:42
Epixcmatheson: im logging in...10:43
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melodiescenestar, do not scream plse  :)10:43
s1gnAlIm trying to install Freenx, anyone know about seveas, specifically how do I add the gpg key for the mirrors?10:43
bjvmy friend reported back to me that after it finished with the blue text livecd setup the screen just sat blank10:43
HymnToLifescenestar > do not use caps10:43
HymnToLifeit's horrible10:43
skonBelboz99: sudo apt-get install ftpd10:43
ludiKindred: Don't own windows, thanks though10:43
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skonscenestar: constructive comments please10:43
bjvso i told him to try his onboard instead of agp card, and still no X just black screen10:43
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rev!sata10:44
uboturev: I don't know, could you explain it?10:44
Epixcmatheson: fook. no resize...10:44
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melodies1gnAl, it's written somewhere on the Ubuntu website, or in gpg man as well  :)10:44
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pinkisntwellI installed xfce and now I can't change the keyboard language, any help guys?10:44
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melodieI have to consult each time I need, or you can do it in Synaptic too, easily10:44
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zenlunaticmy sound doesn't work in gxine10:44
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odat hey anyone know how i can create an image from a game cd10:45
cmathesonEpix: just boot off the install cd and use parted from the command-line probably (or you could just do it now... 'umount -o remount,ro / && parted /dev/whatever'10:45
melodieEpix: I did a great resizing lately, what's your pb ?10:45
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RemmyHi all. I compiled my own kernel, but at boot time it panicks with a "unable to mount root fs on unknown block"  error. The root drive is ext3, and support for that is compiled as a module. Is that why I get the panic, or is something else amiss?10:46
Epixmelodie: pb?10:46
melodieproblem10:46
cmathesonRemmy: you can't compile in support as a module for your root file-system type unless you use an in initrd image10:46
trappistRemmy: that's why.  you either need an initrd with ext3 or you need to compile it in10:46
melodieso ?10:46
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sephransudo mount -t vfat  /dev/hda2 /mnt/windisk2     isnt working,   ..I have mounted the C drive of windows, now I want to do the D drive, wich is a partition of the main HD. What am I doing wrong?10:47
Epixcmatheson: i tried qtparted, no dice. and parted would not load up my device.10:47
ardchoilleodat: mkisofs -o /desired/path/to/filename.iso -R /path/to/source/dir10:47
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Remmytrappist: So, if I change from module to "in kernel", I might get lucky?10:47
cmathesonEpix: why won't parted load up your device?10:47
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moodogRemmy: should do10:47
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melodieEpix: I also tried Qtparted, and with it I gave up  :)10:47
trappistRemmy: I'd put it more like "it will work"10:47
Remmycmatheson: I dunno if the make-kpkg takes care of the initrd?10:47
Epixcmatheson: grr, i forget the error.10:47
Vanderhow do I enter Linux with just the command prompt, not the gui?10:47
Zambbasephran: Have you did mkdir /mnt/windisk2 ?10:47
cmathesonRedGhost: only if you do 'make-kpkg --initrd'10:47
melodiefrom any support I found it in10:47
sephranzambba: yes10:47
trappistcmatheson: THAT'S how you do it!10:47
trappistcmatheson: I've been wondering that since my first day on ubuntu10:48
cmathesontrappist: hehe10:48
Remmytrappist: Well... given my luck the past week with booting this machine, I've given up on such definite statements :)10:48
melodieEpix, do you want to prepare that quietly ?10:48
cmathesonEpix: maybe you should try it again?10:48
RemmyAnyways, thanks guys, I'll give it a shot :)10:48
trappistRemmy: well, by "it will work" I mean "your kernel will be able to mount your root filesystem"10:48
garycmoodog, I did all the steps and now I have a opera icon in apps under internet  --  it does nothing10:48
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trappistgaryc: run 'opera' from the command line and see what you get10:49
Remmytrappist: I hope so. So far I've been unable to and boot my system and use my CPU's second core, but we'll get there in the end :)10:49
garyctrappist, how10:49
s1gnAlanyone here using freenx?10:49
trappistgaryc: open a terminal window, type 'opera' and hit enter10:49
Theflame_differecDUTO10:49
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Theflame_differemaledetto portatile10:50
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Epixcmatheson: ill reboot onto live. one sec10:50
Theflame_differescusa10:50
moodoggaryc:  Applications>Accessories>Terminal then type opera10:50
sephranadditional info zambba http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/634010:50
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cmathesonEpix: you don't even need to reboot if you mount it read-only10:51
garyctrappist, there are two lines of error   may i paste here10:51
Epixcmatheson: no, ill reboot.10:51
ludiEulex: I get an "ERROR Problem connecting to tracker - (104, 'Connection reset by peer')10:51
cmathesonEpix: ok10:51
ludiEulex: when trying to dload ubuntu torrent10:51
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cmathesonludi: sounds like no one is seeding your torrent10:51
Storkhow can i turn a folder into an archive?10:51
garycmoodog, there are two lines of error   may i paste here10:52
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cmathesonStork: a tarball? tar zcvf foo.tar.gz foldername/10:52
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moodoggaryc: go ahead10:52
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garycmoodog, ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.10:52
garycERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.10:52
odatardchoille, still there?10:53
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gerardo_hello10:53
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ludihas anyone tried installing with the dapper CD?10:53
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jvaihey all10:54
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garycmoodog, is there a way to set up a repository so synaptic can install the package10:54
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bjvi dont think ubuntu supports my friends LCD monitor10:54
bjvi think it's a dell10:54
bjvis this common?10:54
bjvcause it is really lame. :\10:54
binarydigitwhat kind of monitor10:54
Epixcmatheson: ok, it is saying that the BIOS gemoetry might have been detected incorreectly10:54
binarydigitrather the model10:55
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molineroHello to all, ubuntu users!10:55
haakonngreetings10:55
bjvhe's checking, i didnt think you needed drivers for a monitor10:55
bjveven lcd10:55
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Epixcmatheson: you around still?10:55
EpixI need a parted resize walkthru :P10:56
bjvhe doesnt see a model number on it, though it is a dell10:56
bjvprobably on the back in tiny text10:56
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AIVgood day everyone10:57
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garycmoodog, do you know what the error is10:57
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bjvive heard that windows XP isnt able to drive some dell LCDs during install, but he could see the blue LiveCD options10:58
bjvjust not when it loaded X10:58
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Dr_Acemasterwhat letter denotes 12hr in the time stamp?10:58
Dr_Acemasterfor xchat sorry10:58
binarydigitbjv: so X won't load or what?10:59
Dr_AcemasterI thought it was lower case L10:59
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bjvhe says it's just a black screen when it goes to startx10:59
bjvi told him to try resizing the res with altctr-10:59
bjvno dice, :\10:59
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binarydigithave him check the log file10:59
binarydigitfor any errors10:59
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bjvwell, hes looking for his old sony restore CD for windows11:00
bjvand im off to work :P11:00
bjvperhaps someday it will be fixed and linuxed up11:00
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jazwechi11:01
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molineroSomebody that expert in GIMP?11:01
Epixsomeone here want to walk me through how to resize a partition with parted? Im kinda clueless...11:01
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zenlunaticcan someone help me get sound working in gxine?11:01
AIVI am building a machine with an ASUS  K8N Mobo11:02
hazmatare there any scripts for runlevel management of the scripts in rc.* directories on ubuntu?11:02
jazwecplease could anybody help me? i have breezy and i edited my sources.list bad..could anybody post me that originall repositories?11:02
binarydigitEpix: get gparted11:02
AIVit has onboard RAID, but did not detect it, it detected 2 seperate drives11:02
Epixbinarydigit: gparted failed me.11:02
binarydigithow so11:02
AIVwhere can I find info?  I want to do RAID 111:02
AIVwith 2 SATA drives11:02
ardchoillejazwec: For Ubuntu 5.10?11:02
AIVyes, Ubuntu11:02
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jazwecardchoille yes..11:03
hazmatjazwec, http://paste.plone.org/163511:03
AIVoh, not me, sorry11:03
molineroSomebody that expert in GIMP?11:03
jazwechazmat thanks alot11:03
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hazmatnp11:03
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binarydigitmolinero: #gimp11:03
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molinerobinarydigit ok, thanks11:03
apokryphosyou'll have better luck in their own IRC server; irc.gimp.net11:03
Epixnobody had a clue how to use parted? :P11:03
garycmoodog, I'm back  --  opera is still not working11:04
datagrrrzenlunatic: i cant get audio(mp3)  with gxine too.. but xmms worked11:04
binarydigitEpix: you didnt say how gparted failed you11:04
ardchoillejazwec: Here is my sources.list from the initial install of 5.10: http://pastebin.com/48341011:04
AIVhas anyonehere done RAID 0 with ubuntu 5.10?11:04
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moodoggaryc: use firefox?  it works out of the box11:04
sephranhmm11:04
garycmoodog, I guess your right11:04
moodoggaryc: can't really help you any further... other than suggesting you try installing the statically linked version11:04
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jazwecardchoille thanks alot..btw..dont you know how can i install skype? when i download that deb package from skype.com it says i have some missing files11:05
cmathesonjazwec: you're probably missing some stuff it depends on, install the packages it wants11:05
apokryphos!tell jazwec about skype11:05
garycmoodog, how do I do that  someone said put in the static version11:05
Epixbinarydigit: never mind, i ran it and it didnt work. im not sure if its the gui or parted11:05
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ardchoillejazwec: I don't know, I haven't ever used skype11:06
binarydigitEpix: any error messages?11:06
ardchoilleapokryphos: thanks :)11:06
Epixbinarydigit: does this look good? resize 3 1435.496 20000.00011:06
Epixbinarydigit: nope.11:06
binarydigitEpix: i have no idea what that means11:06
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xiaogilMysql doesn't work, is the package broken on ubuntu ?11:06
Epixdoes that parted command look good to anyone?11:06
AIVdoes anyone know how I can install MS Internet Explorer on Ubuntu 5.10?11:07
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EpixAIV: wine11:07
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skonAIV: ......why?11:07
ardchoilleAIV: you've got to be kidding11:07
Epixskon: ardchoille: well, active X is needed for some wine programs...11:07
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AIVI was just checking to see if I was visible, I figured that would get me some attention11:08
Epixwineable programs*11:08
revwhat does the module dm_mod do?11:08
ardchoilleAIV: ROFL!11:08
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skonlol11:08
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datagrrrhey, when i write "google.com" to firefox it opens google.com.tr and then bbc.com? might it be a spyware? is there a spyware?11:08
Epixanyone here know parted? does resize 3 1435.496 20000.000 look good?11:08
Linux_whoreAIV: Internet Explorer will bring the viruses to Linux11:08
kris_Can somebody suggest a way to try 9999 possible inputs to a POST from on a web page and see which one grants access to a different page?  I am stuck with ideas?11:08
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Linux_whoreAIV: and so will wine11:08
AmaranthLinux_whore: That's not true.11:09
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EpixLinux_whore: did you see the article on the guy who was trying to wine some viruses? it doesnt work.11:09
AmaranthLinux_whore: And change your nick, please.11:09
trappistis there any more info on where the word 'ubuntu' comes from? saying it's african is sort of like saying it's asian.11:09
Epixomg.11:09
moodoggaryc: check the link I gave you earlier (which btw ws the 2nd or 3rd google hit for "ubuntu opera"11:09
Sturgeontrappist: go to about ubuntu11:09
ElitePeteyou cant port a virus to an operaying system that is built to refuse it11:09
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Sturgeonoh11:09
Gomez_hello again11:09
Amaranthkris_: We won't help you break into a website.11:09
Gomez_how can I install a java program in ubuntu?11:10
Linux_whoregaryc: is your last name carpenter?11:10
Amaranth!javadeb11:10
Epixparted doesnt support reiserfs! what the heck? why does it have to support that filesystem?11:10
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy11:10
jazweccmatheson yes thats what i wanted to do11:10
khermansCan somebody suggest a way to try 9999 possible inputs to a POST from on a web page and see which one grants access to a different page?  I am stuck with ideas!11:10
Amaranthkhermans: No.11:10
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jazweccmatheson but i cant because i dont have repositories for them11:10
Linux_whoregaryc: is your linux box an ftp server?11:10
Amaranthkhermans: We don't help you break into a website.11:10
khermansAmaranth, why not?11:10
remote_hello everyone11:10
khermansAmaranth, thats not breaking -- its just convenience11:10
Linux_whoregaryc: do you live in an apartment in downtown san antonio?11:10
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john_HI everyone, I have an issue.....I used to use itunes on my xp machine which has not been replaced with ubuntu. I want to be able to access all my itunes files the same way I can access them using itunes from a windows share on the network using ubuntu. Anyone know what software is best, every time I do a scan for music files with software such as Amarok etc they never find the mp3/aac/mp4 files in my itunes folders. I have mounted the wi11:11
john_ndows share in media using fstab and it works fine and I can play individual files from there but I want all files added to a library and sorted by tags into artist, album, genre etc etc. Can anyone help? Sorry for such a big text.11:11
khermansAmaranth, it has nothing to do with getting unauthorized access11:11
trappistSturgeon: it says 'african'.  that's not very specific.  there's no such language.11:11
datagrrryeah :)11:11
Linux_whoregaryc: use the user documents on ubuntu.com to install opera11:11
remote_has anyone in here built dvdstyler from source? I get it to compile fine, but when I try to run it, it says it can't find libsvg.so.0 - a symlink in /usr/local/lib that points to libsvg.so.0.0.011:11
ccc_anyone know where i can find libdha?11:11
AmaranthLinux_whore: Please change your nick.11:11
Linux_whoreand find dependencies11:11
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remote_what is my freaking problem?11:12
Gomez_I dont want to install java I want to install a java program11:12
Sturgeontrappist: yeah, i remember i thought that when i saw it11:12
Gomez_freedom.jar11:12
Sturgeonin fact it's a bit offensive i think11:12
moodogLinux_whore: we have been thought that already... having some problems post that11:12
in54noHi, why others users cant play a sound in xmms in ubuntu!?11:12
Epixwhat the hell11:12
Epixwhy does parted not support reiser?11:12
trappistSturgeon: found it.  it's Nguni11:12
Sturgeonok11:13
AIVWhen a hardware raid is configured on a machine Im going to install Ubuntu on it shows the drives during the install as sda and sdb, should I be configuring software raid or should it be recognizing them as a single drive?11:13
AmaranthEpix: Because reiserfs eats babies.11:13
AmaranthEpix: It's not worth the hassle.11:13
datagrrrin54no: but i play altough i am very new11:13
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remote_can anyone help me with my 'cannot open shared object. No such file or directory.' problem?11:13
EpixAmaranth: you know, you fail to be of any help.11:14
Gomez_how to install a .jar file11:14
in54nodatagrrr,  xmms show a error of soundcard11:14
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datagrrrin54no: well that is a driver problem then i think11:14
ElitePetein54no, go to preferences make sure you have alsa selected11:14
ElitePetein54no, if that doesn't work try oss11:15
Gomez_can someone confirm he receives what I'm saying?11:15
in54nodatagrrr, i have, because root play11:15
ElitePeteGomez_, affirmative11:15
Gomez_thanks11:15
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remote_Can anyone help me get DVDStyler to start?11:16
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Gomez_so how can I install a .jar file (Your Freedom client www.your-freedom.net) on ubuntu11:16
in54nodatagrrr, maybe problem of permission no /dev/dsp?11:16
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remote_gomez_, the jar needs to be exacutable, then java -jar jarfilename.jar11:17
navaroneGomez you don't install a .jsr file...you run it11:17
navaronejar*11:17
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datagrrrin54no: i dont think so..11:17
Gomez_how can I make it executable, I'm sorry I'm new to linux11:17
john_HI everyone, I have an issue.....I used to use itunes on my xp machine which has not been replaced with ubuntu. I want to be able to access all my itunes files the same way I can access them using itunes from a windows share on the network using ubuntu. Anyone know what software is best, every time I do a scan for music files with software such as Amarok etc they never find the mp3/aac/mp4 files in my itunes folders. I have mounted the wi11:17
john_john_ ndows share in media using fstab and it works fine and I can play individual files from there but I want all files added to a library and sorted by tags into artist, album, genre etc etc. Can anyone help? Sorry for such a big text11:17
remote_Gomez_, if you downloaded it, it proably already sis11:17
datagrrrin54no: but it may be.. i dunno.. its my 3rd day :)11:18
datagrrrit maybe11:18
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Gomez_it opens in Archive Manager11:18
Gomez_the jar file11:18
Gomez_when I try to run it11:18
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in54nodatagrrr, hehe ok :D but thanks11:18
ardchoillejohn_: can you please post that excricatingly long question to pastebin?11:18
binarydigitGomez_: try typing java blah.jar11:18
navaroneGomez_, use terminal...go to directory that has file and type java -jar <name>.jar11:19
Gomez_gets me a bunch of error messages11:19
navaroneGomez_, do you have java installed?11:19
Gomez_exception in "main" cannot load AWT toolkit11:19
Gomez_and suck11:19
Gomez_dont know navarone, did the default ubuntu install11:20
Gomez_*suck=such11:20
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odatanyone know of a way to make an image from a game cd?11:20
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cmathesonodat: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso11:21
datagrrris there an exploit or spyware for firefox which will direct me to another web site?? ex: when i write google.com.tr it directs me to bbc.com?11:21
keyhackDoes anyone know much about Ubuntu's usplash?11:21
navaronegomez you need to install java...use synaptic to install Blackdown java...use Edit/Search to find it...or use Add Applications/Internet/More Programs and it is there. will ask to enable a repo first11:21
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sethbci know that lighttpd has an RFI out in ubuntu, but does anyone know if there are packages in UBuntu?11:21
Gomez_ok thanks navarone11:21
dannykeyhack, wot do you exactly want to know about it11:21
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Vanderwhat's the root login+password again?11:21
keyhackdanny: Is it bootsplash? (www.bootsplash.org)11:21
kcodenametls11:22
keyhackdanny: Want to know how I can change it around11:22
dannykeyhack, for wot exactly11:22
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keyhackjust want a logo, and a progress bar11:22
ardchoilleVander: there isn't one. The root account is disabled11:22
dannyhave u got gnome-art downloaded11:22
Vander... oh. okay then. so the only account we have is the one that we took at the beginning (superuser)?11:23
pashawVander,   use your user accounts  then sudo  for admin tasks11:23
odatcmatheson, ?11:23
dannykeyhack, have you downloaded gnome-art11:23
Vanderthank you very much!11:23
windowsrefundapt-get was fine but now it's asking me to insert a cdrom11:23
keyhackdanny: No, I'm not on Ubuntu at the moment11:23
ardchoilleVander: yes, you can do sudo to do admin tasks with that account11:23
windowsrefundall of a sudden11:23
sephranhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6340   <----  what am I doing wrong?  I'm trying to load the second partition of the HD11:23
cmathesonodat: that would get you an image of the cd on your hard-drive11:23
dannykeyhack, or ite well im new to linux it self i dont no, i coulda help if it was for ubuntu as i was told earlier11:23
lucasvowindowsrefund: if you have internet connection: put a # before the first line of /etc/apt/sources.list~11:24
lucasvowindowsrefund: if you have internet connection: put a # before the first line of /etc/apt/sources.list11:24
windowsrefundwill do11:24
odatcmatheson, just that command?11:24
garycLinux_whore, how do you open a seperate window11:24
windowsrefundlucasvo, strange how that line appeared out of nowhere11:24
keyhackdanny: Well, I can make the PNG's myself, I'm just wondering what online resource is best about customizing the splash around, and if it was anything like bootsplash11:24
ardchoilleodat: I gave you a command to do that11:24
windowsrefundanyway, fixed :)11:24
binarydigitsephran: did you run dmesg to see what it said11:24
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navaronesephran,  are you sure hda2 is your windows partiton?11:24
cmathesonodat: try it11:24
garycLinux_whore, how do you open a seperate window11:24
sephranhda1 is C: ..hda2 is D:11:24
tswsephran: I bet its hda511:25
Linux_whoregaryc: look at the bottom. i will open it up11:25
odatcmatheson, not doing anything11:25
lucasvowindowsrefund: it is normal, the installation needs it to download packages from the install CD11:25
keyhacklike, I don't want it to be verbose at all, just a logo, and a status bar, no text11:25
datagrrrwhat if i remove ubuntu-desktop app?? xmms' recommended installation removes it because??11:25
lucasvowindowsrefund: you could also just put in the cd11:25
cmathesonodat: it is if you typed it in right11:25
garycLinux_whore, how do you open a seperate window11:25
garycLinux_whore, how do you open a seperate window11:25
garycLinux_whore, how do you open a seperate window11:25
odatardchoille, didn't work11:25
Linux_whoreright click my name and open dialog box11:25
cmathesonhey garyc, shut up11:25
binarydigitsephran: run sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda11:25
HymnToLifegaryc > don't flood11:26
Linux_whorelol11:26
ardchoilleodat: then you didn't do it right11:26
odatcmatheson, this isn't getting by the copy protection11:26
odatardchoille, what was it again11:26
sephranDevice Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System11:26
sephran/dev/hda1   *           1        1275    10241406    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)11:26
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sephran/dev/hda2            1276        4981    29768445    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)11:26
sephran/dev/hda5            1276        4981    29768413+   7  HPFS/NTFS11:26
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ardchoilleodat: mkisofs -o /desired/path/to/filename.iso -R /path/to/source/dir11:26
cmathesonodat: it's copying the freaking cd, it has absolutely nothing to do w/ copy protection11:26
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Linux_whoregaryc: i am going to try to install opera again and if i get an error i will try to fix it11:27
tswsephran: hda2 is extended and hda5 is your D partition11:27
odatardchoille, and if i'm copying a cd whats the path i want to use11:27
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odatcmatheson, then why isn't the file getting any bigger than 767 kb11:27
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ardchoilleodat: what is the path to your CD?11:27
odat676 i mean11:27
pashawsephran,  please use pastebin next time11:27
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sephranI did11:28
cmathesonsephran: you just dumped it in the channel11:28
arai just installed Java but i still have difficulty viewing websites that require java11:28
odathdc i believe11:28
cmathesonara: how did you install java?11:28
sephranyerrr, sorry..must have forgotten I had new data in clip board11:28
navaroneara do yuo have java and javascript enabled in browser(s)?11:28
arano11:29
aranot yet11:29
Linux_whoregaryc: when i downloaded opera, i checked off a box for a file that looked said opera-version.tar.gz and i installed opera from source code that is when i got the dependencies11:29
odatcmatheson, this is what i got "dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error11:29
odat"11:29
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binarydigitara: so what do you think could be the problem then if you did not enable java in the browser11:29
pashaw!tell Linux_whore about opera11:30
datagrrrWhat if i remove ubuntu-desktop app?? xmms' recommended installation removes it?11:30
cmathesonodat: is /dev/cdrom the right device?  are you running the command w/ the proper permissions?11:30
kcodenametlinux_whore why use opera?11:30
ardchoilleodat: mkisofs -o /desired/path/to/filename.iso -R /dev/cdrom11:30
ardchoilleodat: is there a disk in /dev/cdrom ?11:30
cmathesondatagrrr: that's fine, it's a dummy package11:30
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arathey are enable11:31
cowbuddatagrrr ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that covers many packages so removing it won't really remove anything from your system but it may come about that ubuntu-package is updated to contain more packages for the ubuntu experience that you will eventually miss out on..11:31
garycLinux_whore, I thought we were going to talk in the other window11:31
Linux_whoregaryc: i am not getting any of your messages in the other window11:31
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ardchoilleLinux_whore: garyc may not be identified to services11:31
ElitePetecan anyone please help me with, samba i have 2 computers both with samba enabled, both with samba ports opened in firestarter, but i cannot find the shared folders?11:31
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garycLinux_whore, that is because we are here not there11:32
arabinarydigit , they are enable11:32
pashaw!tell ElitePete about samba11:32
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binarydigitara: did you install the plugin into the plugins directory11:32
odatardchoille, that gave me a 350 kb file11:33
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calamarihi11:33
arabinarydigit, no i just did a normal installation11:33
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Linux_whoregaryc: type this into the chat "/msg nickserv register yourpassword"11:33
calamariis there a list somewhere of what packages are installed on the live cd?11:33
navaronegaryc,  you need to have nick registered in order to send priv messages11:33
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Linux_whorethen type "/msg nickserv identify yourpassword"11:33
binarydigitara: try installing automatix, should make getting java enabled easy11:34
ElitePetepashaw, i can't see the fodler i shared on the other pc from this one, but i can see my own shared folders?11:34
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SturgeonWill something crash if i delete /var/run/utmp?11:34
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pashawcalamari, the download area should have a .list  you can get11:34
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garycwhere is the sources.list file located11:34
da9000hi11:34
arabinarydigit, what's automatix??????11:34
pashawcalamari,   plus you can run   dpkg -l  to view them while liveCD is running11:34
Seveas!automarix11:34
ubotuSeveas: I give up, what is it?11:34
Seveas!automatix11:34
ubotusomebody said automatix was messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!11:34
binarydigit!automatix11:34
ardchoillegaryc: /etc/apt/sources.list11:34
Seveasit's crap11:34
binarydigitbah11:35
Seveasbinarydigit, NEVER EVER advise automatix11:35
Seveasit's a piece of shit11:35
garycardchoille, thankyou11:35
binarydigitalrighty then11:35
pashawElitePete,   did you follow the wiki?    what part are you stuck at11:35
ardchoillegaryc: yw :)11:35
robertjheya all, how can I tell whether a given directory is a mount point?11:35
da9000anybody here familiar with licenses, EULA's and basic M$ legaleze?  I want a little input in one of the M$ EULA sections (for their Empower package). I'm a Linux guy, so I don't know much, and was wondering if anyone has some more experience.11:35
SuperLagjohnm: fancy meeting you here, big boy. :)11:35
sephranso I did sudo mount -t ntsf /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2     I see the folder in file system...but it says I dont have access to it11:35
ElitePetepashaw, i cant see the folders i have shared on my other machine11:35
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arabinarydigit, should i reboot ?11:35
odatin other words it there any clonecd for linux11:36
odatsheesh11:36
binarydigitara no11:36
calamaripashaw: just trying to see what unmet dependencies qtparted will have on the live cd :)11:36
binarydigit!java11:36
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs11:36
kalini didn't manage to play .wma files11:36
pashawcalamari,   unmet?   you getting some error?11:36
calamaripashaw: no.. just trying to avoid rebooting 10x :)11:37
flodinea guys where do i install a TTF font?11:37
binarydigitara , check out that java link11:37
Seveasflodine, ~/.fonts/11:37
Linux_whoregaryc are these the errors you are getting? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser#head-01f53326c2ead5334c029818c6b4e99af856199611:37
kalini'm close to go back to WINDOWS...11:37
araok11:37
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garycLinux_whore, no  go to the other window11:38
kalin=::(11:38
calamarikalin: I'm close to deleting windows and enlarging my ubuntu partition.. guess everyone's different :)11:38
kalin=::(11:38
Guri_slacKhow i instal xfce4 in ubunyu11:38
janolikalin, that's common11:38
Guri_slacK?11:38
janoliyou'll be back soon11:38
navaronecalamari I already halved my windows partition11:38
SeveasLinux_whore, please change yout nickname to something less obnoxious11:38
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ardchoillecalamari: LOL11:38
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SeveasGuri_slacK, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop11:38
kalinWELL I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ME OLDER WITH SO MUCH PROBLEMS WITH LINUX11:39
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infocentroalguna chik hi-tech11:39
trappistSeveas: he's been ignoring that request since he's been here11:39
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navaronekalin hit your caplock key to get rid or the caps plz11:39
paxmastercan someone explain me how to use tar with exclude11:39
calamarinavarone: did it go smoothly?  anything I should know?11:39
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Guri_slacKhow i install xfce4 in ubuntun?11:39
ElitePetepashaw, it says in computer i will see a network button but i dont11:39
Guri_slacKSeveas, tks11:39
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MarcNGuri_slacK: sudo  apt-get install xfce411:40
paxmasteri try this but no luck  tar - --exclude=*mp3 -gcvzf file.tar.gz *11:40
naliothGuri_slacK: install xubuntu-desktop11:40
Linux_whoregaryc, i am in the other chat window. this is the message i get: * Offering DCC CHAT to garyc. look what this guy said: ardchoille Linux_whore: garyc may not be identified to services11:40
Kovecsesxubuntu-desktop would be better11:40
paxmasteri read the man11:40
Linux_whoregaryc, thats why i told you to identify11:40
SeveasLinux_whore, change your nickname to something less obnoxious or leave11:40
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Guri_slacKtks11:41
pashawElitePete,   im looking at the wiki     im used to manually editing samba11:41
jvaithe wifi sux in tryst11:41
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ElitePetepashaw, i dont have the windows networkign section in network settings what do i do?11:41
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polpakElitePete, the problem is you have firestarter running11:41
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ElitePetepolpak, i have the ports opended11:41
navaronecalamari...ummm...when I resized grub was annoyed with me...I think the partition tables were adjusted and I had an error when trying to boot ubuntu afterwards. Went to windows and fiddled with Disk management but accidently made wrong partiton active(boot) so I got error laoding os after rebooting. had to use Ranish to reset boot and then use install cd to mnt ubuntu partition and reinstall grub11:41
Guri_slacKalgum brasileiro?11:41
nalioth!br11:41
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.11:41
Seveas!br11:41
polpakElitePete, the ports are random11:42
janoli!ar11:42
ubotuI don't know, janoli11:42
ElitePetepolpak, ? i added the SMB samba rule11:42
janoli!help11:42
polpakElitePete, try turning off the firewall temporaraly and see if you can browse11:42
Guri_slacKsorry11:42
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ElitePetepolpak, ok11:42
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kalini'm tired of charging packages11:43
navaronecalamari...gparted is quite good...but it seems you can only take up unallocated space if it is to the right of the partition you want to enlarge...just so you know11:43
ElitePetepolpak, other pc still doesnt show up11:43
polpakElitePete, and you specifically set the firewall open?11:43
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ElitePetepolpak, yea11:43
Spacejockhola11:43
mwewhere do I set stuff like LC_COLLATE system wide? /etc/environment?11:43
navarone"to the right" in the [artition display I mean11:43
Spacejockhi11:43
kalini think i'm getting old and wasting so much time with so much packages11:43
Seveasmwe, yup11:44
mweSeveas: great11:44
Seveas!tell kalin about attitude11:44
kalin=::(11:44
Spacejocki must say (sincerely)...ubuntu is wow11:44
kalin=::(11:44
calamarinavarone: ok.. so I'll need to delete my swap partition and remake it :)   thanks :)11:44
polpakElitePete, can you pastebin the output of sudo iptables -L11:44
sephransudo mount -t ntsf /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2  has been done succesfully, but the folder windisk 2 itself, has a red X in the corner of it. Clicking it gives me the message that I dont have the permission neccesairy to view the contents of windisk211:44
sephran sudo mount -t ntsf /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisksec11:44
ElitePetepolpak, ok11:44
Spacejockim a red-hat favour...and the same with fedora core11:44
kalinthat sets me on bad mood =(11:44
sephrangah! ignore the second sudo mount command11:44
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ElitePetepolpak, can i just whisper you it11:45
Guri_slacKgod many archives11:45
polpakElitePete, ok11:45
kalinmmmmmmmmmmmmm11:45
kalinmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm11:45
Spacejockbut....this two distros had some fails (overall in new releases)11:45
ElitePetetarget     prot opt source               destination11:45
ElitePeteChain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)11:45
ElitePetetarget     prot opt source               destination11:45
ElitePeteChain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)11:45
ElitePetetarget     prot opt source11:45
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navaronecalamari...the drive I was resizing was not my ubuntu drive...I have windows and a shared Partition (fat32) on primary drive...secondary had ubuntu and a few windows partitions for storage11:45
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Spacejockim very happy with ubuntu11:45
ardchoillekalin: please, change your attitude or you may find yourself banned from the channel. Maybe it would help to go and take a break.. maybe get some fresh air.11:45
polpakhrm11:45
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polpakCan you unban him?11:45
polpakwas a mistake11:45
Spacejockalso...my conceptronic usb wan run very well11:45
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Spacejockc54ru11:45
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naliothpolpak: unban who?11:46
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polpakElitePete11:46
naliothhe's not banned, just quieted11:46
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ElitePetewhatever im out of here11:46
polpak...11:46
Seveas!tell ElitePete about pastebin11:46
polpakHe was trying to send me a tell11:46
polpakand he sent to channel11:46
ElitePetei typed /msg11:46
maskdgday everybody11:46
ElitePetefucking jerks11:46
polpakElitePete, calm down11:47
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navaronecalamari...I find the install cd's rescue mode will probably cover most needs but you may want to consider a live cd or sysrescuecd for all circumstances11:47
polpakoh well11:47
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Seveas!attitude11:47
ubotuThe people in #ubuntu are volunteers, your attitude determines their willingness to help you out.11:47
Seveasjust to remind everyone...11:47
ardchoillenalioth, Seveas: I'm glad you are here :)11:48
nalioth!conduct11:48
ubotuconduct is, like, totally, the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/11:48
calamarinavarone: yeah.. I'd like to make a live cd that can run qt/g parted .. so I have something like partition magic.11:48
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sephranwhat is going on here, when I have this?11:48
sephransudo mount -t ntsf /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2 has been done succesfully, but the folder windisk 2 itself, has a red X in the corner of it. Clicking it gives me the message that I dont have the permission neccesairy to view the contents of windisk211:48
naliothcalamari: the liveCD will run g/qtparted (in fact gparted comes with it)11:48
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maskdoh dear why does the ubotu have personality and use the word 'like' where it's not appropriate?!11:48
polpaksephran, you probably need to set a different umask or uid when you mount11:48
naliothmaskd: ubotu is from southern cali, evidentally11:48
remote_if I want all users to have access to fonts, where do I put them?11:48
navaronecalamari...try googling sysrescue cd...I ahve a copy burned...11:48
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Seveas!fonts11:48
ubotufrom memory, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto11:48
calamarinavarone: thanks again :)11:48
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navaronenp11:49
interfearjust heard about ubuntu... downloading now.. how does everyone like it?11:49
polpakcalamari, knoppix works too11:49
navaronecalamri...forwarned is forearmed...<s>11:49
Seveasinterfear, a lot :)11:49
interfearnice :).. cant wait11:49
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sephrancan you talk me through it polpak? If I finish getting the files from there, I can go home at last..having helped my mate backup the files11:49
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Kindredinterfear, it's great.. :)11:49
navaroneinterfear...you may have a few quirk to work out...but it bets windows by a longshot imo11:49
Kovecsesbbl11:50
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polpaksephran, when you do the mount just add -o 'uid=username' after the -t ntfs11:50
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polpaksephran, where username is your username11:50
meepyWhere do I drop a GDM package to install?11:50
Mileshowdy everyone, I've got a phpmyadmin question that's making me cranky, anyone have experience with that?11:50
sephranwhat username would that be?11:50
binarydigitdpkg -i11:51
Seveasmeepy, gdm package?11:51
maskdsudo dpkg -i pckgname.debi11:51
SeveasMiles, just ask :)11:51
maskdno i on the end there11:51
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sephranI dont recall the hd having one11:51
meepyI mean the compressed archive with the files11:51
meepyWhere should they be when unpacked?11:51
polpaksephran, no.. your username11:51
sally_I installed ubuntu on a laptop that dual boots with XP, after partitioning the disk to give space to ubuntu.  If I format that partition in windows, to ntfs, will grub still be able to boot into XP?11:51
Seveasmeepy, gdm is in the ubuntu repositories11:51
maskdnormally home folder or desktop11:51
Seveasdon't use tarballs11:51
polpaksephran, the one you log into ubuntu as11:51
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maskdmeepy: it is easier to sudo apt-get install gdm11:51
MarcNMiles: why does phpmyadmin make you cranky?11:52
MilesI've setup sugar 3.5.1e on Ubuntu, and everything works groovy, but I can't login to phpmyadmin, none of the passwords or logins i've used work.  Where is the config for this access? How do I reset his password?11:52
meepySeveas: I know, but when I choose "Install GDM" I can not browse to my "Document" folder, only . folders11:52
MilesYou guys rock btw11:52
sephranaaah .....eh...whats the default one? I never went back to login, this is straight from the cd11:52
polpaksally_, you'll need to reformat it to ext2 or ext3 in order to install ubuntu on it. But the installer can reformat it11:52
Seveasmeepy, you're not making any sense...11:52
MarcNMiles: it is asking for a mysql password.11:52
meepyNevermind.11:52
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MilesI gave it the one that's in the config.php that sugar uses to login to mysql, so I dunno what gives, it won't let me login..11:53
ardchoillemeepy: you installing a new gdm theme?11:53
MarcNMiles: Real Men(tm) use the command line.  The same password.11:53
polpaksephran, you're on a live cd?11:53
meepyYes ardchoille11:53
sephranyes11:53
sally_polpak: it already has ubuntu on it, I want to get rid of ubuntu though, I need the space in windows11:53
meepyWhere do I place the files?11:53
ardchoillemeepy: got it figured out?11:53
polpaksephran, the username is ubuntu11:53
Seveasmeepy, ah, gdm *theme*11:53
meepyNo, not yet. hehe11:53
Seveasmeepy, art.gnome.org/faq.php11:53
MarcNMiles: try     $ mysql -u USERNAME -p     and see what you get.11:53
meepyMerci Seveas11:53
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MilesI'd love to command line into mysql, I know how to get into it in windows, but not here in lovely ubuntu land11:53
ardchoillemeepy: open gdmsetup, go to the Themed Greeter tab and click on Install new theme11:53
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MarcNMiles: where USERNAME and the password that mysql prompts for is the one you have in the configuration file.     The command line is  simply   mysql11:54
maskdMiles: Applications > Accesories > Terminal11:54
GanjhiHi, I'm looking at this guide to install Enemy Territory on Ubuntu, and it says to open "Root Terminal" in system tools, but that isn't actually under my system tools. Any ideas?11:54
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maskdGanjhi: right click on applications and go to menu editor11:54
polpaksally_, oh. you formatted your ubuntu partition to ntfs?11:55
CyfrHey.. if I get the error 'CRC failed' when trying to unrar a file thats distributed over 20rar files.. does it mean im doing it wrong or that the files are corrupt?11:55
navaroneGanji it is in System tools in the menu editor11:55
maskdGanjhi: "Edit Menus", click System tools on the left pane and then check the box that says root terminal11:55
GanjhiThanks  Maskd11:55
GanjhiGot it11:55
sally_polpak: not yet, because I am not sure if doing so will prohibit me from booting into windows11:55
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naliothCyfr: did you start at part01 of the rar set?11:56
maskdsally_: wouldn't it be better to format ubuntu partition as ext3 or ext2?11:56
Seveas maskd ext311:56
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Milesi type in mysql at the terminal and I get "command not found"11:56
polpaksally_, it won't.. But if you aren't going to be using linux you can just reinstall your windows boot loader by booting from a windows rescue disk and using fdisk /mbr11:56
Cyfryes, used 'unrar e filename.r0011:56
Miles**heart broken**11:56
sephranpolpak: what do I do to unmount hda5? since now when I did.....  sudo mount -t ntfs -o 'uid=ubuntu' /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2  , it says I'm allready mounted11:57
MarcNMiles: sudo apt-get install mysql-client11:57
sally_polpak: yeah I know, but I don't have one :-( I only got some OEM disks with this machine11:57
naliothCyfr: there was no file.rar?11:57
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sally_polpak: thanks for the help11:57
remote_!font11:57
sephranpolpak:I previously mounted without username11:57
ubotuwell, font is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto11:57
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sally_maskd: I am trying to get rid of ubuntu11:57
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hoslerEverytime I bang on my desktop table my computer restarts!11:57
Cyfryes there is, I just tried that now and got same error11:57
MilesMarcN: doinit11:57
robertjif [`mount|grep /home/$userid|wc -l` = "0"] ; then11:57
robertj isn't working the way I am expecting it to, what I am I doing wrong?11:57
vb_coderwhy would apt-get give this message in ubuntu:   libqt3c102-mt but it is not installable11:58
ardchoilleSeveas: Thank you for posting the URL to that art.gnome.org faq :)11:58
MarcNMiles: another handy command is:     apt-cache search mysql | more11:58
Seveasvb_coder, because you are installing broken packages. Don't :)11:58
sally_maskd: I have kubuntu dapper flight 2 on there now, it is the first distro that allows me to use my wireless card and my touchpad at the same time, but it is too buggy for now, I will have to wait for the final version11:58
naliothCyfr: then your archives are corrupt11:58
navaronesally...you can use the ubuntu install disk to format the ubuntu partition ...at least into fat32...then convert them in windows. You can begin install and do the manual partitioning and formatting and then leave install11:58
moodogsally_: why don't you just use fdisk / disk management under windows to delete the partion(s) with ubuntu on?11:58
Cyfrokay thankyou11:58
vb_coderSeveas: what is the solution? how could the package be broken if i havent installed it yet?11:58
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sally_moodog: I didn't know if doing that would make grub not be able to boot11:59
sally_XP11:59
Seveasvb_coder, it's broken in the repository11:59
Seveaswhat are you trying to install?11:59
maskdsally_: so you have kubuntu and xp on your system?11:59
vb_coderSeveas: opera11:59
sally_maskd:  yeah11:59
maskdsally_: how are they set up partition wise11:59
Seveasvb_coder, get the debian etch version11:59
navaronesally if you are completely removing ubuntu grub is not an issue. Windows bootloader will load windows for you11:59
moodogsally_: boot xp into recovery mode from the install cd and use fixmbr11:59
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hoslerEverytime I bang on my desktop table my computer restarts!11:59
Seveasthe so called ubuntu version is only for hoary11:59
Seveashosler, ROFL12:00
MarcNhosler: sounds like you have hardware problems.  Loose board?12:00

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