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ryanahhhh12:00
ryansorry12:00
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soundray^Ocean^: not usually, but you may have to unmute and bring the microphone level up with alsamixer12:00
ryanok12:00
richard_someone can help me to use a fat32 partition since ubuntu?12:00
^Ocean^soundray, i did that...12:00
^Ocean^still no luck12:00
ryanit worked12:00
redguySicka: enable unvierse and multiverse12:00
^Ocean^set it to capture as well12:00
_jasonryan: now 'sudo dpkg -i Frost<tab>', and <tab> means press the tab key (watch the magic)12:01
redguySicka: nothing more should be necessary12:01
bimberiubotu tell richard_ about vfat12:01
Sickaredguy: That was done quite a while ago, as I've been listening to mp3's and playing dvd's for a while now12:01
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ryanok its on there now12:01
RollyWapache is telling me that no listening sockets are available, how do i change the port or w.e?12:01
Sickaredguy: The only ones left disabled are backports12:01
soundray^Ocean^: sometimes stopping esd helps (System-Prefs-Sound, uncheck sound server startup)12:01
_jasonryan: press enter12:01
redguySicka: so I can presume that you have libdecss installed and you can read encrypted dvds?12:02
ryanis it my password?12:02
_jasonryan: yep12:02
ryanits not showing up12:02
_jasonryan: that's ok, jsut type it12:02
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ryangot it12:02
ryanYAY12:02
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ryani think its working12:03
_jasonubotu: tell ryan about cli12:03
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ryanone moment12:03
redguyubotu: tell ryan about enter12:03
_jasonryan: make sure you read ubotu's link so that you can learn all about the terminal12:03
Morfosomook cpu usage is not going under 10% and my memory is at 40% out of 512 megs i know this aint supossed to be that way12:03
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Sickaredguy: I'm not familiar with that package, libdecss, I just tried to install it but apt-get couldn't find the package12:03
Morfosomoany ideas?12:03
ryansorry redguy>12:03
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soundrayMorfosomo: no, that's all fine.12:03
ryanok.12:04
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soundrayMorfosomo: Linux uses memory for buffers and such instead of letting it lie around idle.12:04
ryani really apreciate it jason.12:04
jimmyxxhi can anyone help me with my font problem - i installed loads of ttf files in my usr/share/fonts and now everything is all messed up - most websites use really wierd fonts - everything is just messed up!12:04
nitrosport_5azlright i downloaded and make'ed the bzflagcvs so how can i get it to install so i can play it12:04
redguySicka: run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh12:04
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redguySicka: with sudo12:04
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Morfosomoand its loaded some 12 meg into virtual mem when it still got ram available12:04
milestonehi all12:04
_jasonryan: np, but it's a good idea now to read those tutorials and understand this stuff on your own12:05
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soundrayMorfosomo: if applications need it, Linux hands it out smartly.12:05
milestonei accidentally removed some files from /var/lib/dpkg/info12:05
ryanIll try to read it i just get lost in the jargon.12:05
redguySicka: dvdrecord is in dvdrtools package12:05
milestoneis there  a way to restore them i.e. by re-installing the package?12:05
soundrayMorfosomo: that's nothing to worry about either.12:05
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IdleOneryan:  it'll get easier ()12:05
Morfosomook,. then why is the stream beeing chopped?12:05
jimmyxxcan anyone help me with my font problem?12:05
ryancould it possibly get harder?12:05
ryanlol?12:05
soundrayMorfosomo: what stream?12:05
Kr4t05Is anyone else having problems with Doom 3?12:06
redguySicka: imagemagick should be in the imagemagick package12:06
ohoelaren't the dapper  flights mirrored anywhere?12:06
Sickaredguy: Okay I just installed those two12:06
ryani have the problem that my moms comp only has 256 ram so it wont play it.12:06
Morfosomosound streams,. internet radio and such,. tried various "stations" same results,. use to be fine till today12:06
soundrayKr4t05: I do actually: it gives me nightmares ;)12:06
duckanyone know how to strip mirc colors in xchat 2.6.0 (that comes with breezy)? the option seems to be displaced :S12:06
Wibble-hey... does anyone know how I can get the ppp_mppe module for 2.6.12 on ubuntu, or how to check if it is compiled into the default kernel?12:06
ryanbut i doubt that that is what you were asking.12:06
Sickaredguy: ok and imagemagick is there now12:06
Kr4t05soundray: I meant technical issues. :P12:06
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redguySicka: what else were you missing?12:06
adubi need the madwifi atheros chipset drivers if anyone can help me out i think the download is down from their site cant find it anywhere else on the web12:07
soundrayMorfosomo: that'll be a network throughput issue.12:07
jimmyxxcan anyone help me with my problem, i installed like 100 fonts and now all the websites use really wierd fonts - some applications do too?! please help!12:07
Sickaredguy: Checking one more time...12:07
soundrayKr4t05: oh, those have all gone since I stopped playing it.12:07
richard_bimberi: how can i write over a fat32 partition?12:07
_jasonjimmyxx: they probably use times new roman, arial, and verdana12:07
soundrayKr4t05: sorry, I'm not being very helpful here, I know.12:07
Morfosomosome something tween their server and my isp went b0rk?12:07
jimmyxx_jason - i have installed those though - using crossover office12:07
jimmyxxdo i need to actually put the ttf files in there too?12:08
Morfosomothing is i ve tried various stations,. i dont think they are all in the same network areas12:08
soundrayMorfosomo: either that, or your router is throttling, or you have a download happening in parallel.12:08
Kr4t05soundray: Well, when I try to start it, I get a load of error messages in the terminal. You think you could help?12:08
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navaronejimmyxx, with the website fonts you can simply specify what fonts to use to display sites in your web browser's preferences12:08
bimberirichard_: you can format it using mkfs - 'man mkfs'12:08
_jasonjimmyxx: well I'm just saying that those are probably the ``weird fonts'' since a default install will use freesans iirc12:08
Sickaredguy: subtitle2pgm...12:08
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Morfosomono downloads,. checked that,. and i used to be hable to stream three diferent stations across my lan lossless12:08
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jimmyxx_jason: how can i reverse what i've done?12:09
redguySicka: in that time I will tell you how you can look for certain files: first of all there's apt-cache. You can search package names and descriptions with apt-cache search what_to_search_for. The second usefull tool is apt-file.12:09
soundrayKr4t05: I may or I may not. Put them up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org in any case. Someone might know what to do.12:09
phiber_optichow can I compile a c++ program?12:09
majdwhat's a good folder to install all my programs to?12:09
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soundrayMorfosomo: what player are you using?12:09
richard_bimberi: i share this partition with windows, for that reason i can't change the file system?12:09
Sickaredguy: how do I use it?12:09
_jasonjimmyxx: as navarone suggested you can specify what fonts to use in programs' settings.  You can also just uninstall the fonts12:09
redguySicka: apt-file allows you to search the contents of the packages. You most propably have to install it, after that you have to do apt-file update.12:09
jetscreameryou share what with what?12:10
bimberirichard_: mkdosfs   :)12:10
jetscreameri think the terminology is a little off.. maybe hd12:10
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Morfosomonow it chockes on one stream12:10
redguySicka: when you have it updated (it downloads different files than apt-get) you can search packages with apt-file search what_to_search_for12:10
Morfosomotried xmms and bmp(variant)12:10
yamanhi every one can any one help me and tell me how to change the startup menu because i installed the ubunto and i am new on linux using so i want to make the windowsxp first in the startup menu12:10
navaronerichard are you trying to install ubuntu on a partition that is fat32?12:10
redguySicka: subtitle2pgm is in subtitleripper12:10
Sickaredguy: thanks i'll try it out12:11
jimmyxxhey _jason i just checked - firefox is set to use sans?12:11
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Sickaredguy: Cool subtitleripper I'm also missing dvdxchap...12:11
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jimmyxxthe application looks fine - the websites look terrible?12:11
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Morfosomoall was fine,. till these days,.. it aint my connect,. it happens with all stations,. and my hardware is a wee bit acting up12:11
nitrosport_5ok i downloaded and compiled the cvs of bzflag, how can i install it to use it? i am a total N00b!12:11
ryanok now frostwire is there but it wont run12:11
jetscreameryaman: enable savedefault in /boot/grub/menu.lst12:11
[Leo] 'night12:11
Kr4t05soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/964312:11
yamanthenx12:11
yamanthank you y very much12:12
yamanthanx12:12
jetscreamernp12:12
majdwhat's a good folder to install all my programs to?12:12
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soundrayMorfosomo: I see, so your setup hasn't changed, but the bmp/xmms behavior has. Correct?12:12
ryansays something about upgrading the java something or other12:12
Kr4t05majd: /opt/ is okay.12:12
Morfosomocorrect12:12
redguySicka: ogmtools12:12
jetscreamerthat manilla folder you got at officemax should work...12:12
majdKr4t05, where's that at?12:12
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redguySicka: install apt-file and you'll find all necessary packages in no-time12:12
Morfosomowell only a minor update to iirsc client(automatic suggstion, i followed it)12:12
soundraymajd, your question doesn't make very much sense in ubuntu. Are you talking about programs you've written?12:12
ryancan i download the java files in the repos12:13
jetscreamer/usr/local is common12:13
majdsoundray, no, just programs off the internet12:13
Kr4t05majd: You could also put them in your home folder if you remember not to delete them.12:13
nitrosport_5ok i downloaded and compiled the cvs of bzflag, how can i install it to use it? i am a total N00b12:13
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jetscreamernitrosport_5: why didn't you just install it12:13
majdKr4t05, how else would i uninstall?12:13
Wibble-How come I have kernel image 2.6.12 yet there is only kernel source 2.6.11 in apt?12:13
IdleOne!tell ryan  about java12:13
jetscreamervia apt-get12:13
Sickaredguy: thanks it's installed I'll try everything and come back if it doesn't work12:13
soundraymajd: first, try to find the software you need in the ubuntu repositories. They'll give you the least trouble.12:13
redguySicka: cool12:13
nitrosport_5cause i wanted the cvs, so what do i do to use it12:13
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Kr4t05majd: dpkg -r <app name> is the proper way to uninstall, last I knew.12:14
navaronejimmyxx, in firefox settings click advanced next to fonts and uncheck the "let websites use...yada yada" box...see if that helps any12:14
soundraymajd: if you do have to get something that isn't an ubuntu package, the best base directory to put it in is /usr/local/12:14
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majdsoundray, i'm installing Zend studio12:14
Sickaredguy: here's the thing though, everything that I do have installed, it's telling me that it's still missing!12:14
Morfosomook cpu and mem usage are gradually spiking12:14
Sickaredguy: for all I know I have it all12:14
bimberiWibble-: probably the 'main' repository isn't enabled, check your sources.list or pastebin it to give us a look12:14
majdit's not in the repos..but you answered my question...thanks12:14
redguySicka: restarted dvdrip?12:14
Sickaredguy: yep12:15
Sickaredguy: maybe I need to log out?12:15
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redguySicka: hrm...12:15
jetscreamersee also dpkg --purge12:15
Wibble-bimberi, it is enabled...12:15
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jetscreamerdvdrip makes 0 byte files12:15
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Sickaredguy: and does it make any difference that I'm using the 64 edition?12:15
nitrosport_5ok i downloaded and compiled the cvs of bzflag, how can i install it to use it? i am a total N00b12:15
jetscreamerlet me know if it works for you12:16
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soundrayMorfosomo: "gradually spiking" is an oxymoron ;)12:16
redguySicka: hmm not sure, might12:16
Morfosomoi noticed, was hoping you wouldnt :P12:16
dennis_what is a HO.sh file?12:17
Morfosomorising,..12:17
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bimberiWibble-: aha, it's in main in breezy-security, is that enabled?12:17
Sickaredguy: Oh, but I just remembered a tip that my buddy gave me. He said that DVDShrink works just fine in Wine12:17
Sickaredguy: Maybe I'll check that out12:17
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soundrayMorfosomo: have you tried the Microsoft method of system fine tuning?12:17
nitrosport_5ok i downloaded and compiled the cvs of bzflag, how can i install it to use it? i am a total N00b12:17
redguySicka: hrm can you run wine in 64?12:17
Kr4t05Is there any sort of command that cleans up your filesystem. Like Disk Cleanup in WinXP?12:17
jetscreamerdennis_: open it up in a text editor and see... .sh is a script12:18
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navaronesoundray, you mean reinstall?12:18
Sickaredguy: guess I'll find out in a few minutes12:18
majdsoundray, i'm installing zend through it's installer (.bin), it tells me i don't have premissions to /usr/local/    do i need to run it differently?12:18
dennis_but i cant find it12:18
Extreme_Unctionkr4t05: Ever get doom running?12:18
redguySicka: well, when I install something that dvdrip wants, it can see it after it's installed12:18
Morfosomoi hate to slap the penguin but i did reset yes12:18
jetscreamernitrosport_5: usually just make install12:18
soundraynavarone: no, first line is reboot ;)12:18
Kr4t05Extreme_Unction: No. :/12:18
soundraymajd, call the installer with sudo12:18
nitrosport_5i tried that bust i cant find where a shortcut to the program is12:18
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redguySicka: do you have a 32 chroot or something?12:18
Kr4t05Extreme_Unction: You wanna look at my pastebin?12:18
redguySicka: 32 bit12:18
jetscreamerKr4t05: did you try the sdl package with the -alsa on it12:18
Extreme_UnctionNope :D12:18
Extreme_UnctionI gotta head out12:18
Sickaredguy: sorry i'm not familiar with chroot12:19
Kr4t05jetscreamer: ?12:19
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dennis_were can i find HO.sh?12:19
saniXmajd, sudo ./program12:19
majdsoundray, sudo ZendStudio-5_1_0.bin12:19
majd ?12:19
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jetscreamerdid ... you... try ... to ... install... the... sdl package... with the -alsa not -all or whatever12:19
Kr4t05Extreme_Unction: Now, I'm having problems with Doom3.12:19
soundraymajd: should work.12:19
suryamew doom312:19
saniXmajd, sudo ./ZendStudio-5_1_0.bin12:19
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Kr4t05jetscreamer: I have no clue.12:19
redguySicka: well, I'm not too familliar with 64 bit ubuntu...12:19
jetscreameri pasted the botspam for you yesterday...12:20
Sickaredguy: how do i find out if I have 32 bit chroot?12:20
nitrosport_5jetscreamer: make install didnt work12:20
Morfosomois there a way i can "flush" the swap or find out which apps data is stored there?12:20
Morfosomois got like 12 meg in it12:20
majdsaniX, soundray, it worked with the ./ thank you very much12:20
jetscreamer!info libsdl1.2debian-alsa12:20
ubotulibsdl1.2debian-alsa: (Simple DirectMedia Layer (with X11 and ALSA options)), section libs, is extra. Version: 1.2.7+1.2.8cvs20041007-5.3ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 175 kB, Installed size: 456 kB12:20
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mjrMorfosomo, sudo swapoff -a ; sudo swapon -a12:20
devios!uname -a12:20
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, devios12:20
jetscreamerKr4t05: try to install that one and see if it works12:20
saniXmajd, cool job ;p12:20
mjrMorfosomo, shouldn't be a reason to do that, though12:20
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redguy!tell Sicka about chroot12:21
jetscreamerKr4t05: that's how to fix q4, so should work for d312:21
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Morfosomoam just wild guessing that maybe part of the player program is there causing the stalls12:21
devioshey all - I dual boot and haven't used my ubuntu install in ages...  I can't get synaptec working...12:21
redguySicka: but I doubt that you have it12:21
colmdevios, try command line - sudo apt-get update12:21
lampshadedevios, I would try sudo apt-get update12:21
Kr4t05jetscreamer: apt-ing12:21
jetscreamernitrosport_5: might be some howto on the bzflag site, no idea12:22
lampshadeupdate your machines info on stuff12:22
soundrayKr4t05: have you got 3d acceleration?12:22
Kr4t05soundray: As far as I knew.12:22
nitrosport_5hmm, ill just get the install package12:22
lampshadeDoes glxgears print out fps for you people?  I thought it used to, but mine doesn't now, was that something that was changed?12:22
redguySicka: hmm, hoary instructions again...12:22
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bimberiubotu tell lampshade about glxgears12:22
Kr4t05jetscreamer: Still not working.12:22
jetscreamerglxgears does here12:22
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redguySicka: well, it seems that I can't deal with your problem :/12:23
Sickaredguy: Lots of hoary instructions not updated...12:23
Kr4t05jetscreamer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9643 <<-- error output.12:23
Sickaredguy: well I appreciate the effort12:23
jetscreamerKr4t05: you will probably still need that file and not the one it replaced, so i'd leave it installed if it was me12:23
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nitrosport_5what is the command to see if ubuntu has the 3d drivers for my video card12:23
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Morfosomowell that wasent it12:23
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Morfosomostill getting chopped sound from any station i choose12:24
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Kr4t05soundray, jetsreamer: Let me try reinstalling my drivers.12:24
jetscreamerah12:24
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dennis_HO.sh12:24
nitrosport_5ubotu tell nitrosport_5 about glxgears12:24
soundrayKr4t05: good idea.12:24
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bimberinitrosport_5: glxinfo | grep rendering   (look for 'Yes')12:25
dennis_how do i change from GNU libgcj to sun?12:25
alanonwhen my install is finished and X is about to start (i think) the computer halts.. help?12:25
jetscreamerKr4t05: what xorg vid driver. nv? nvidia-glx? nvidia-binary? you'll 'probably' find that the nvidia-binary functions and the others don't. not sure, i do know this is how it is for some required gl headers when you compile radiant.12:25
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deviosI get a bunch of "Failed to fetch" errors when I do apt-get update... how do I get the latest repositories file?  how do I even figure out which ubuntu release I am running?12:25
alanonI've tried different disks, but anyway it halts after the first reboot..12:25
dyrneanyone currently using xfce in dapper? hows it working?12:25
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bimberidevios: lsb_release -a12:25
jetscreamerKr4t05: and you have mesa-indirect listed...12:25
leehello all.  thunderbird has suddenly stopped working -- I haven't upgraded it or the system lately, it just suddenly died whilst I was using it and now it refuses to start giving this error: DOUBLE-CLICK: 400 --> -1 THRESHOLD: 8 --> -1 /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh: line 159: 13594 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"} ... anybody know how to fix it?12:26
bimberiubotu tell devios about repos12:26
deviosDescription:    Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release)12:26
jimmyxxcheers navarone - i've fixed it, a mate just gave me arial.tff - threw it in the directory with the other odd fonts and its worked a treat!12:26
devios!easysource12:26
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:26
navaroneokie jimmyxx12:27
bimberidevios: ah, that factoid from ubotu won't be much use (has sample lists for breezy and dapper)12:27
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bimberidevios: although if you change breezy to hoary in the breezy one that would be standard list12:27
Morfosomoerm,. though about one of em replies,.. whats the way to "de throttle" a router? a l windoz?12:28
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saniXhello lee ;p12:29
bimberidevios: or use source-o-matic :)12:29
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leehello saniX12:30
leeanybody have idea idea why thunderbird would just stop working like that?12:30
AngryElfis there a keyboard shortcut to switch between desktops?12:30
phiber_opticAngryElf, ctrl alt arrows12:30
idefix_can you open odt-files with MS word?12:30
AngryElfthanx12:31
_jasonidefix_: no12:31
Morfosomohmmm,. got another hint,.. etherape is telling me it dosent find a suitable interface12:31
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phiber_opticAngryElf, thats too change workspaces12:31
leeAngryElf: if you go to System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts, you can set your own up12:31
colmAngryElf, system>prefs>keyboard shortcuts12:31
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pcarniePlease can anybody help. I spoke to someone earlier regarding an issue with screen resolution in Gnome/X. I have sort of resolved the issue by using the VESA driver. If i try to use the ATI or Radeon driver I cannot use 1280x1024. Has anybody else had this problem12:31
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Kr4t05!wireless12:32
ubotuwell, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards12:32
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holobytedhey all.. should I need to configure anything to enable DVI output on my graphics card?12:32
ompaulidefix_, no it is not advanced enough, and it is the same reason MS are not getting work in some states these days12:33
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idefix_when I try to save as word 97/2000/XP OpenOffice Writer crashes :-(12:34
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ompaulidefix_, try to save it with what?12:35
idefix_with OpenOffice, but the second attempt succeeded I think12:35
ompaulidefix_, version?12:35
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nitrosport_5why when i try to open a .rpm it says file type not supported?12:36
deviosholy crap that  source-o-matic thing is great!12:36
_jasonnitrosport_5: because it's not supported12:36
idefix_OpenOffice.org 1.9.12912:36
deviosthanks for your help, all...12:36
_jasonnitrosport_5: there are ways to use it, but it is preferred that you search the repos first12:36
nitrosport_5is there somethin i can do to open that file?12:36
_jasonnitrosport_5: what is it?12:36
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nitrosport_5xorg and xfree8612:36
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ryanhey does anyone have an opinion of which is the best media player for ubuntu12:37
_jasonryan: mplayer imo12:37
robertjryan: yes, they do12:37
saniXpcarnie, sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:38
ryanmplayer12:38
_jasonnitrosport_5: hrmm, why do you need an rpm for that?12:38
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ryanrepos?12:38
nitrosport_5jason: xorg and xfree86 packages12:38
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nitrosport_5jason i downloaded them to go with ati gfx driver12:38
ompaulnitrosport_5, that is not how Ubuntu works, it has its own packages12:38
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_jasonubotu: tell nitrosport_5 about ati12:39
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Morfosomois it normal to have the transfer rate fluctuate "heavily"? or is this like some "internet wide" issue?12:39
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nitrosport_5so how can i get the raedon 9550 driver?12:39
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pcarniesaniX, my xorg.conf is ok, it used to work with the ATI driver but for some reason it has stopped. In the screen res selector I just get the option 1024x768 the refresh says -25873Hz12:39
ompaulnitrosport_5, read the message the bot sent you12:39
nitrosport_5ok12:40
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ompaulpcarnie, you using 5.10?12:40
spinecan some one help me out with this little problem i have, i want my second monitor to blank out when i run fullscreen 3d apps, i have a radeon 9600XT with the latest propietary drivers......PLZ!12:40
spineom going crazzy12:40
Morfosomogeez this choped sound is getting me real ma12:40
Morfosomo+d12:40
spine3d apps mess with my desktopgamma12:40
shivwhere do i get libdvdcss2 from?12:40
spineso it looks real annoying12:41
pcarnieno 6.04 but I had the provlem originally with 5.10.  Thought i'd try 6.04 to see if it was any better12:41
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xerophytecould somebody help me .. i have intel xeon processor, the old 2.6.11 kernel i had the 2 processor when i do cat /proc/cpuinfo but i used the same config and compiled the 2.6.15.5 .. but its keep giving me only one processor and i have enabled the smp and HT on the configuration .. does anybody know what am i missing12:41
ompaulspine, when someone knows something they will talk12:41
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chuckypxerophyte, nope you just need the smp kernel and it should work.12:42
spineompaul, thx12:42
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saniXpcarnie, try sudo gnome-display-properties &12:42
ompaulpcarnie, I offer you #ubuntu+1 and >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< might help get some sanity in the interim12:42
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pcarniesaniX, OK12:43
Kr4t05Ok12:43
canllaithHeya, if I want to grab all packages required to compile gnome applications (so gtk & gnome -dev packages) is there a simple way of grabbing them all ?12:43
shivwhere do i get libdvdcss2 from?12:43
Morfosomois there a site for ubuntu "performance tunning" or something akin?12:43
shivwhich repo?12:43
IdleOnespine Im am not certain but I believe you can set apps to only use one monitor...instead of trying to get the monitor to blank when using the app tell the app to only use 1 monitor12:43
Kr4t05soundray, jetscreamer: Installing the drivers worked.12:43
xerophytechuckyp, i have the smp kernel but only getting one cpu but if i boot with old kernle i get 2 cpu12:43
ompaulspine, I can't answer for propirtary drivers but that >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< might help you get back to base and you can start again,12:43
pcarniesaniX, what should that do12:43
jetscreamerKr4t05: yay i'm not a moron :)12:44
chuckypxerophyte, hrmm.... dunno there. Should be working.12:44
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saniXchange your display12:44
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Kr4t05jetscreamer, soundray: But, my audio sounds really bad. ><12:44
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pcarnieompaul, tried that already but no joy, smae result12:44
Kr4t05jetscreamer, soundray: Like, metallic buzzing.12:44
IdleOneshiv:  sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 ( if that is the package name ) orelse you need to find the package that is in12:44
idefix_I try to copy a file to my floppy disk and when I type ls at /media/floppy I get ?      ?.??^  ??^?????  ??.??  ?????/?  ?.???  ??.0?  d?`?d?  i       ?.p?  r12:44
idefix_?      ?.??^  ???/?.?   ?      ?.?      ???    1.l    h?.??   l?.??  ?.p    w.d12:44
idefix_?.??^  ??.\?  ??.??     ??.?   ?.???    ?.?    *.?a!  h?3p    ?.m    p?.?12:44
shivhow do I find that?12:45
lampshadeIdleOne, I think that package was removed from the Repos12:45
lampshadeor something12:45
idefix_sorry for the flooding12:45
jetscreamerKr4t05: alsa is the default. yesterday, i noticed you installing the sdl-oss package, which is why i remember your dilema12:45
Kr4t05ubotu tell idefix_ about pastebin12:45
chuckypubotu, tell idefix_ about paste12:45
ompaulidefix_, don't paste again thanks12:45
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IdleOnelampshade:  not certain12:45
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jetscreamerKr4t05: the -oss one is probably gone now though.. (not positive)12:45
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dejx!dejx paste12:45
ubotudejx: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:45
Kr4t05jetscreamer: It still sounds icky.12:46
IdleOne!info libdvdcss212:46
idefix_but.. is my floppy not formatted right?12:46
Dae__Hi, i would like to ask you something, i started my ubuntu and i got the warning for updates, i opened it and i got the warning message : It is not possible to upgrade all packages. Does that mean that 6.04 is out? and should i do that upgrade?12:46
danielnewbieI'm a bit embarrassed to ask this, but what command(s) do I use to view the contents of a floppy disk?12:46
jetscreamerKr4t05: you might check that, if it is or not installed. also, what sound card? (i mostly only know about sblive though)12:46
shivwhichprgram will install .db on right clicking??12:46
robertjdaniel: do you want to use the command line or would you prefer the UGI/12:46
Kr4t05Dae__: No. Dapper isn't out until... next month?12:46
robertjerr GUI12:46
stpereDae__, 6.04 will get out in 2006/0412:47
chuckypdanielnewbie, ls  = list comparible to dir in dos12:47
shivwhich program will install .deb on right clicking??12:47
danielnewbieok12:47
chuckypshiv, dpkg12:47
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jetscreamershiv: none by default that i know of12:47
robertjshiv: not one in Breezy, only in dapper AFAIK12:47
Kr4t05jetscreamer: AC'97 VIA12:47
IdleOneshiv: in terminal type dpkg -i filename.deb12:47
danielnewbieI've tried accessing the floppy through Xfce, but I couldn't find it12:47
jetscreamerKr4t05: no idea :(12:47
dejxdirectory112:47
dejxups12:47
dejxhttp://pastebin.com/58112412:47
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Dae__yes but what are all this upgrades, it tells me to do apt-get dist-upgrade, and that will install sid12:47
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jetscreamersid? there is no ubuntu sid12:48
idefix_do you have to format floppy's for use in linux?12:48
pcarnieompaul, can I send you my xorg.conf??12:48
jetscreameridefix_: if they are not formatted yes12:48
Dae__i mean unstable12:48
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Kr4t05jetscreamer: lspci says: 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)12:48
idefix_are linux formatted floppy's usable in windows?12:48
dejxhttp://pastebin.com/58112412:48
Kr4t05idefix_: if they're formatted with FAT12:49
mjridefix_, yes, if they contain a filesystem that Windows supports (notably FAT)12:49
ompaulpcarnie, I would not be of much use with it12:49
funkyHatDae__, apt-get dist-upgrade won't upgrade you to a different version of the OS unless you change your repositories first12:49
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pcarnieompaul, not to worry12:49
shivwhats gdeb? will that do it?12:49
danielnewbieso, how do you see the floppy? I've tried ls, but I cant find it12:49
ubunturoxhow do i setup a https server in apache2 with ubuntu ?12:49
Dae__funkyHat so i should apt-get dist-upgrade?12:49
jetscreamerKr4t05: only things i know of to check are: 1. is genrtc or rtc (modules) loaded. alsa like rtc not genrtc. 2.(wait for it)12:49
funkyHatDae__, all dist-urgrade does is smartly update packages with dependencies (like synaptic does).12:50
funkyHatDae__, yes12:50
Dae__shouldn't i?12:50
IdleOneshiv:  why not try dpkg -i filename.deb ..it might just work12:50
idefix_how do I format at the BASH shell?12:50
Kr4t05danielnewbie: sudo mount /dev/fd012:50
idefix_the format command doesn't exist12:50
danielnewbiemount: can't find floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab12:50
jetscreamerKr4t05: 2. make sure snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-seq-oss  are also loaded12:50
Kr4t05jetscreamer: You're losing me.12:50
shivhmm thanks let me do it12:50
Dae__funkyHat ok thx for help, good night12:50
Kaan-Is there any FAQ site based on the questions in this channel?12:50
jetscreamersudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /place/to/mount/the/floppy12:50
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danielnewbiethanks12:50
idefix_don't I have to use -t fvat arguments?12:50
IdleOneKaan-:  wiki.ubuntu.com12:51
dyrneidefix_: mkfs.vfat or whatever12:51
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ubunturoxhow do i setup a https server in apache2 with ubuntu ?12:51
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Kr4t05lampshade: Ow...12:51
jetscreamerKr4t05: those are all kernel-modules, modprobe loads em. if it helps, you need them listed in /etc/modules so they load on_boot12:51
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lampshadeI admit I actually laughed out loud12:51
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esacwhat do i install to get wins support ?12:51
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Kr4t05lampshade: Glad to know that my humor is apprieciated. ;P12:51
jetscreamermkfs.msdos maybe12:52
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Kr4t05jetscreamer: Wow.12:52
jetscreamerls /sbin |grep -i mkfs12:52
Kr4t05jetscreamer: I really didn't want to do that much.12:52
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jetscreamerKr4t05: modconf will do both for you at the same time. it's in universe iirc12:52
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Kr4t05jetscreamer: Will apt get it?12:53
deviosisn't vmware free now?12:53
ozeewhere to get working doom ?12:53
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KakiPukulvmware, isn't FREE at ALL12:53
Kr4t05jetscreamer: Nevermind.12:53
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idefix_when you switch your floppy do you have to umount and remount?12:53
dyrnedevios: vmplayer is free but not free free12:53
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esachow can i permanently change the color of my bash prompt ?12:54
Hi^gh^LIfehey can someone help me ge the sound working on my  nforce410 board?12:54
MorfosomoKakiPukul, i hate to discent,. theres a downloadable free version now12:54
deviosi understand that it's not 'free'12:54
Kr4t05!sound12:54
ubotuI heard sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary12:54
ozeeanyone!!12:54
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KakiPukulwell, the term FREE in Linux World, really means something else, FREEDOM :)12:54
deviosbut I also am excited to be able to run a winxp desktop inside of ubuntu instead of having winxp be my primary os12:54
IdleOneozee:  this isnt a warez channel12:54
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funkyHatKakiPukul, you're wrong. VMware Server is free as in free (not as in freedom though ;))12:54
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shivahha I found the repo http://www.videolan.org/doc/vlc-user-guide/en/ch03.html12:54
KakiPukulfree to download without charge for VMWare, yes :)12:54
GTXHow do I run a contrab which will go every 5minutes.12:55
IdleOneshiv:  that isnt an ubuntu repos afaik12:55
KakiPukulyes, ozee?12:55
chuckypGTX, 5 * * * I believe12:55
Seveasnope12:55
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KakiPukulfree to download without charge for VMWare, yes :) << well I am not wrong :)12:55
SeveasGTX, */5 * * * *12:55
_jasonSeveas: nope12:55
shivI know but I just added it to the repo list and was able to install libdvdccs212:55
Seveas_jason, enlighten me12:56
ozeeKakiPukul: just need working doom...12:56
_jason*/12 ?12:56
Seveasno12:56
GTXSeveas, no space before the first * ?12:56
KakiPukuldoom, the game?12:56
Kr4t05ozee: Legacy or Doom 3?12:56
ozeeKakiPukul: downloaded alot non works12:56
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ozeeues12:56
KakiPukulI haven't install any Doom yet...12:56
ozeeno just the classic one12:56
devioscan someone please explain to me why dns resolution is so much slower in ubuntu than in winxp on the same system on the same network?  Telling me how to fix it may placate me enough to not be annoyed by this fact anymore...  BTW, I have the same problem with Fedora12:56
mikebotis there a gnome version of media player classic?12:56
KakiPukulneither I have interest in Doom, the game12:56
_jasonSeveas: ok given I only read a crontab once I will go with seveas' way12:56
ozeeme on breazy 5.1012:56
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mikebotor is there any video player better than mplayer?12:57
Kr4t05ozee: http://legacy.doom.org12:57
Seveas_jason, the / means step, not divide by12:57
esacdevios what are your dns servers set to ? cat /etc/resolv.conf12:57
Kr4t05I think...12:57
Hi^gh^LIfelspci12:57
Seveas_jason, man 5 crontab ;)12:57
deviosesac, same as they are in windows12:57
Kr4t05!doomlegacy12:57
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kr4t0512:57
ozeeJr4t05: is that free12:57
ozee?12:57
Kr4t05drat12:57
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_jasonSeveas: already reading :)12:57
Kr4t05Doom Legacy is free.12:57
Kr4t05If I could only find the page.12:57
KakiPukulozee: : I think it is free for download12:57
chuckypGTX, just man crontab they have examples in there as well as what each space does.12:58
holobytedanyone know how to activate DVI output for console? X likes my DVI.. console doesn't tho12:58
esacdevios: what does the hosts: line say in /etc/nsswitch.conf ?12:58
GTXand how do I sync time12:58
Seveas_jason, line 3912:58
GTXon server12:58
Kr4t05ozee: http://legacy.newdoom.com/12:58
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KakiPukulholobyted: : what card do you use?12:58
ozeewill it work on breazy 5.10 with no libn problems?12:58
holobytedGeForce FX 590012:58
devioshosts:          files dns12:58
deviosnetworks:       files12:58
_jasonSeveas: yep you're right12:58
chuckypGTX, ntpdate12:58
Seveas_jason, I know ;)12:58
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KakiPukulif you use ATi, i think you can do it manually with that fglrx driver...12:59
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mikebotdoes anyone know of a light-weight media player for gnome?12:59
esacdevios: possibly try changing that to hosts:    dns files   .. and see if that helps12:59
bebethhi12:59
dyrnemikebot: mplayer is the king12:59
Hi^gh^LIfecould someone plz help me get my onboard sound working i think my x-fi is interfering and makeing it so that ubuntu doesnt find my onboard12:59
KakiPukultotem is lightweight... compares to xine or vlc... or mplayer12:59
Aaron_Masonis anyone here experienced in getting gmailfs to work?12:59
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mikebotdyrne, mplayer is way too heavy for me12:59
_jasonSeveas: I'll have to submit a patch to crontab12:59
ubunturoxcan somebody please help me ?01:00
iBalomikebot: totem is as lightweight as it can get.... uses all the gnome-libs, which are already loaded01:00
ubunturoxhttps://czarism.com/debian-ubuntu-apache2-and-openssl-https <-- this guide isnt working01:00
mikebotdyrne, i just want a box with a duration bar and volume bar, and that's it01:00
_jasonubunturox: just ask your question01:00
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ubunturoxthe https:// gives me error01:00
funkyHatmikebot, xfmedia is pretty good...01:00
ubunturoxi'm trying to setup HTTPS on APACHE201:00
Seveas_jason, hm?01:00
Seveaswhy?01:00
mikebotfunkyHat, thanks01:00
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ozeeKakiPukul & Kr4t05:.....  thanks i'll try01:00
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AyaI'm interessed by a lignt-weight media player too (^_^... I use mplayer, but in text mode (for my little brother it's complicated)01:00
_jasonSeveas: never mind, I was just aying I'd have to patch crontab to use my behavior so that I would be right01:00
ubunturoxi get this error  Invalid method in request \x80g\x01\x0301:00
deviosesac, trying now - thanks01:01
Seveas_jason, hahaha :D01:01
jetscreamerxine-ui functions01:01
jetscreamerbut might not be available01:01
deviosesac, still taking freaking forever... anoying... gonna have to tcpdump01:01
mikebottotem is pretty laggy too01:02
deviosgrrrr01:02
_jasonAya: gmplayer to heavy?01:02
Ayaoki, thanks01:02
deviosflyers game in hdtv > dns problems01:02
dyrnei changed my parents xp comp over to mplayer no frontend from media player and told them they just had to get used to the keyboard commands01:02
ompaulubuntulog, what kind of browser?01:02
holobytedKakiPukul, not using ATi... any ideas w/ nVidia?01:02
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iBalomikebot: totem-xine?01:02
ubunturoxanybody got a clue ?01:02
Lars_GI want to know, how come you've not finished dapper yet?? I'm very dissapointed at you01:02
Lars_G:P01:02
Lars_Glol01:02
mikebotiBalo, "Totem Movie Player"01:02
AyaHh, i haven't had idea to use the GUI for mplayer...01:02
ompaulubunturox, what browser are you using01:02
AyaThanks01:02
mikebotiBalo, Totem 1.2.001:02
KakiPukulno, never used nvidia's01:03
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ubunturoxnm, fixed01:03
ubunturoxthe documentation was a bit problematic01:03
ubunturoxbut its ok now :)01:03
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=== canllaith thinks ubuntu would be much nicer if it had a checkbox: "I'm a developer, please install development libraries for just about bloody everything kthx'
KakiPukulliie Fedora?01:04
ubunturoxwelp, laters01:04
KakiPukulcanllaith: : ubuntu is not targeted for developers, mostly...01:04
ompaulLars_G, it comes out on 20th April, and please try to keep it all to one line01:04
mikebotiBalo, also when i scroll up with mouse wheel 3, the video fast forwards, but the audio doesn't01:04
esachow can i enable sending my hostname/ip to the dns server so that other computers can ping me by name ?01:04
mikebotiBalo, and i would rather mouse 3 be for volume01:04
iBalomikebot: totem is just a frontend... it can use gstreamer (:-(( ) pr xine (:-)) as backend. try intsalling totem-xine (this will kick totem-gstreamer)01:04
chuckypesac, the dns server would need your hostname/ip so that would work.01:05
mikebotiBalo, okay01:05
majdis there a way to change the right click menu on the task bar on the bottom to make the close button the last one in the menu?01:05
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ompaulKakiPukul, I would not agree with you, any developer would know or figure out rather quickly where to look, and there are so many types of developers these days it would be a bit hard to cater for them all01:05
esacchuckyp: on windows boxes when you get a dhcp address, it registers your dhcp address with the dns server .. is there not this functionality in linux ?01:05
iBalomikebot: vlc might be worth a try, too01:05
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KakiPukulyeah, they know...01:05
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mikebotiBalo, how can i switch between these after i download them?01:06
chuckypesac, no if your talking about windows networking it uses wins or some other varient.01:06
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majdi.e. is there a way to modify the gnome taskbar right click menu01:06
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KakiPukulbut ubuntu, IMHO isn't developer friendly, it was meant for easy use for new GNU/Linux users...01:06
Kr4t05Ok...01:06
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Kr4t05So...01:06
chuckypesac, What exactly are you trying to do just ping the hostname on the network froma  window box?01:06
KakiPukulwell, you are developer, you should know better01:06
iBalomikebot: nautilus has a right click :-)01:06
Kr4t05The doom legacy forums says that 1.43Beta works better than 1.4201:06
Kr4t05But, the only sources for 1.43b are for OS X. :/01:07
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kejupkakipukul- yeah, but it has strong connections with debian, which is extremely developer friendly01:07
Hi^gh^LIfeDoes anyone have a logitech mx518 with all the buttons working?01:07
mikebotiBalo, i don't know what nautilus is01:07
Kr4t05I might indulge in the n00bish question, and ask if I should still try to compile, but instead, I'll be quiet.01:07
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Jeevakejup: hehe, no its debian with another name :P01:07
iBalothe gnome file manager01:07
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KakiPukuli just use three button mouse plus a scroll01:07
KakiPukulhehe01:08
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kejupmikebot- it is the program that you navigate folders with01:08
KakiPukulubuntu is debian based, but the packages names are way different...01:08
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Duke_Netder proxy (die einstellung muss raus ) !!!!01:08
KakiPukuluniverse :)01:08
mikebotkejup, ah okay, thanks01:08
Duke_Nethilfe01:08
_jason!de01:08
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de01:08
Hi^gh^LIfeyeha01:08
Hi^gh^LIfewhat?01:09
Kr4t05Oh, kewl01:09
kejupkakipul- i don't even know what the context of the discussion is....so I'll butt out. :)01:09
Kr4t05!logitech01:09
ubotulogitech is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6547101:09
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woneahello, how do I install a .deb file?01:09
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_jason!deb01:09
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)01:09
brennerwonea: what is it?01:09
Lars_GSigh i couldn't respond to ompaul01:09
mikebotiBalo, i'm sorry, i guess i am not understanmding01:09
KakiPukuloh shortcuts for FaQs cool01:09
hermeshave installed aMule and xMule. both of them give with each server "serverX gave time-out". ??01:10
kejupAny perl programmers in here? I'm trying to use the module "HTML::Display", but I don't know what package to install to get it.01:10
Kr4t05iBalo: Anyone could with a bit of practice. :P01:10
_jasoniBalo: it looked it I guess01:10
Hi^gh^LIfeyes but i was wondering if someone could just give me the xorg mouse configuration part01:10
woneabrenner: sdl mixer01:10
mikebotiBalo, how do i change totem from gstreamer to totem-xine?01:10
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Hi^gh^LIfeso i dont have to go through all that stuff01:10
woneaubotu: thanks01:10
ubotupas de quoi, wonea01:10
KakiPukulkejup: : install the libperl-html* stuff01:10
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Kr4t05jetscreamer: I installed modconf, is there anything else i need to do?01:10
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Duke_Nethelp me (proxy ....i can't connecting ............((( ???    Proxy = OFF or del   ??? )))  please01:10
iBalomikebot: don't worry , just 'sudo apt-get install totem-xine' and everything is done for you :-)01:10
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slvmchni'm still having trouble converting .ogg's to .mp3's, i can play/edit mp3s but not export them, any help?01:11
_jasonDuke_Net: /join #ubuntu-de01:11
canllaithKakiPukul: yeah, I know, but it's still frustrating :) Still, I think I have everything sorted now.01:11
KakiPukultotem-xine will remove totem-gstreamer...01:11
mikebotiBalo, okay, well i already downloaded it via synaptic01:11
hermes have installed aMule and xMule. both of them give with each server "serverX gave time-out". ??01:11
jetscreamerKr4t05: sudo modconf, then just browse for the modules and load them.01:11
iBalomikebot: then you've already got it running01:11
jetscreameror unload as wanted01:11
Hi^gh^LIfeanyone  have the mx518 and is willing to share there xorg.conf settings with me?01:11
esacchuckyp: sorry need to clarify. this is on a windows network at work where we run our own dns servers .. i guess i can use wins too, but any idea how to enable sending a wins update ?01:12
Kr4t05jetscreamer: which ones should i get?01:12
_jasonHi^gh^LIfe: I have an mx1000 tutorial you can read if you can't find your exact mouse...01:12
mikebotiBalo, wow, much betterk, thank you01:12
kejupkakipukul- which one though. I have quite a few of them installed.01:12
iBalomikebot: just to make sure: you are not running dapper and xgl, are you?01:12
Hi^gh^LIfenaaa i know i know were the tutorial is i just want the xorg settings so i dont have to waste my time01:13
Hi^gh^LIfe1 i know*01:13
IdleOneHi^gh^LIfe:  not a waste of time if you get it to work right?01:13
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Hi^gh^LIfehaha no but it is if your short on time01:13
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majdis there a way to modify the gnome right click menus01:13
majd?01:13
iBaloproperties01:14
Kr4t05jetscreamer: Which modules should I load?01:14
KakiPukulyeah, using gconf... but i still can;t figure that out yet...01:14
_jasonmajd: you can use nautilus scripts to add functionality01:14
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majd_jason, i just want to rearrange some of the buttons01:14
majdtake the "Close" button to the bottom01:14
iBaloouch!01:15
esaci have a laptop which i want to install breezy on .. it can't connect to the network, so i want to make a cd with all of the updates currently. is this possible ?01:15
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_jasonmajd: oh I see, might want to try #gnome too01:15
jetscreamerKr4t05 snd-pcm-oss  modprobe snd-seq-oss  if they're not already loaded, and the rtc vs genrtc is in a different area01:15
jetscreamers/modprobe//01:15
KakiPukulesac, the network controller configured?01:15
majd_jason, touche01:15
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kejupesac- it will be easier to just install the latest release.....is there any particular reason you need to most updated packages?01:16
_jasonmajd: try the channel on freenode and GIMPnet01:16
kejupkakipukul- so do you have any idea which of the 20-30 libhtml*-perl packages has HTML::Display?01:16
majd_jason, ok, i'll give it a try01:16
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esackejup: not any particular reason other than id like all of the fixes etc.. so that it is stable..01:16
KakiPukulkejup:  I am not familiar with Perl Lib01:17
Lars_Gkejup: Another good option though a little harder is using CPAN01:17
fxhi01:17
KakiPukulI'll try to install all01:17
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kejuplars- I am using cpan....or at least html::mechanize01:17
fxHi01:17
KakiPukulhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/ << try to look for that here...01:17
Lars_Gkejup: Then you can pull HTML::Display via the CPAN installer.01:17
Lars_Gkejup: It's not a deb but it saves the dig01:18
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KakiPukulwhat's the file taht define that "Display" module?01:18
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KakiPukulwell.. I would to know...01:18
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KakiPukul*like*01:18
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nitrosport_5where can i get the module-assistant01:18
Lars_GKakiPukul: most surely "Display.pm" inside a directory called HTML, going to look in packages?01:19
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kejupLars_G- Maybe I'm confused. Perhaps I'm not using CPAN. I just installed libwww-mechanize-perl. I know that all the online documentation is from CPAN, though I frankly don't know what "CPAN" is.01:19
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KakiPukulyeah01:19
KrillancelloHullo. Does anyone know of any guides or the like for doing a Ubuntu 'server' install ("server" at the CD's boot: prompt) and then adding in X, Gnome, etc.?01:19
Kr4t05Krillancello01:19
brennernitrosport_5: enable universe01:19
nitrosport_5type that in terminal brenner?01:20
gnomefreakKrillancello: after the install is done you would need to add the extra stuff  like sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop01:20
brennerubotu: tell nitrosport_5 about universe01:20
_jasonKrillancello: by ``etc'' do you mean getting all of the stuff the regular install provides?01:20
Kr4t05Krillancello: you can do the server install and use 'sudo apt-get' to install what you need.01:20
Krillancello_jason: No, not all of it. Just certain things.01:20
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brennernitrosport_5: check your pms01:20
Lars_Gkejup: In this case it's a package manager lets you download packages (modules) from CPAN and install, but that lends more thowards a #perl discussion :)01:20
kejupesac- I'd say that the regular releases are probably more stable.01:20
Kr4t05I plan to do that with a light-build.01:20
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gnomefreakubuntu-desktop will install gnome and all the other packages with gnome01:21
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KakiPukulkejup: : i found three modules that has HTML::Display module, they are "slash", "kwiki" and "slimp3"01:21
kejupLars_G- I see. I think I'd rather stick with apt-get lest I stumble into dependency hell.01:21
kejupkakipukul- weird, none of the libhtml*-perl?01:21
Lars_Gkejup: Ok, still in the future learning CPAN is a good tool for perl programmers .01:21
Krillancellognomefreak: I don't want to install everything that comes standard with the non-server install.01:21
Lars_Gkejup: Let me check.01:21
KakiPukulyeah01:22
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seraphimapt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove ubuntu-desktop01:22
KakiPukulCPAN, perl module installer right?01:22
gnomefreakKrillancello: installing it like that is easiest and sure way for X to work01:22
seraphimtogether with openoffice...01:22
Kr4t05Question01:22
Kr4t05I installed KDE01:22
gnomefreakseraphim: ok01:22
brennerfglrx driver and suspend to ram don't seem to mix.  has anyone else experienced this?01:22
gnomefreakubuntu-desktop is ok to uninstall01:22
Kr4t05How do I remove GNOME to clear some space?01:22
otto_how can i make my ubuntu linux faster???? i want to disable a lot services that i dont need!01:22
seraphimsure, but openoffice isn't01:22
seraphim;)01:22
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_jasonKrillancello: x-window-system-core gives you X iirc, don't know what will get you just gnome01:23
gnomefreakseraphim: it wants to get rid of openoffice?01:23
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seraphimyes01:23
gnomefreakseraphim: let me guess your upgrading to dapper?01:23
brenner*nod* i thought ub-desktop was required for updrage transisions?01:23
mikebotiBalo, what is dapper and igl?01:23
bajekanyone from poland who can me help with polish fonts in xterm ?01:23
KakiPukulfor a while, then it will re-install all the package... dist-upgrade tight, seraphim?01:23
brenners/updrage/upgrade01:23
gnomefreakseraphim: and it will replace openoffice01:23
woolbeoIs there any trick to get grub to install on a i2o raid array?01:23
kejupLars_G- I'm not really a perl programmer though. :) I just use it occassionally because I find it easier than shell scripting.01:23
seraphimer. no. i use dapper -.- missed checking the channel before writing *g01:23
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iBalomikebot: never mind. If you don't know, there's no problem :-)01:24
KrillancelloI remember reading something somewhere about an apt-get line someone used to install X and Gnome, and nothing else.01:24
KrillancelloThe problem is that I've forgotten where.01:24
kejupkakipukul- those packages that you found....did you search the universe/multiverse, or just the official repositories?01:24
wastrelgnome-desktop-environment01:24
mikebotiBalo, hehe okay01:25
KakiPukulit's on the universe...01:25
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brennerKrillancello: the xserver-org package aaybe?01:25
wastrelshould pull in gnome and all deps, including X server01:25
gnomefreakwastrel: that wont install X though  will it?01:25
brenner*xserver-xorg01:25
KakiPukulhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=Display.pm&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386 << kejup01:25
otto_how can i make my ubuntu linux faster???? i want to disable a lot services that i dont need!01:25
wastrelgnomefreak:  dunno but doesn't gnome depend on X?  have to look at the package i guess..01:25
brennerah, whoops01:25
Krillancellobrenner: No, it was a relatively long string. Maybe five or six separate packages. x-window-system-core, possibly gnome-session, and some other things.01:25
KakiPukulwell, you can use the Administration -> Service, otto_ :)01:25
brennersorry.  misread you01:25
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mikebothow can i add a folder (like the Applications, Places, &c. folders) on my panel?01:25
kejupkakipukul- ahhh, I didn't know that was there. Thanks01:26
gnomefreakwastrel: yeah for the most part01:26
woneaI'm a gonna, somehow I've got a broken link, I'm looking into package manager, any help please?01:26
seraphimthere aren't many services you don't need otto_01:26
KakiPukulwell, the Menu "System"01:26
Wammy|anyone want to make $30 and get free webhosting?01:26
seraphimcups perhaps, if you don't print :D01:26
gnomefreakKrillancello: thats not one package thats a bunch of them in one command01:26
mr_lampen801:26
jetscreameryes, that guy over there does!01:26
KrillancelloWammy|: I'd like to make $30, but I do my own webhosting. ;P01:26
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Wammy|im tured of messing with this sound dirvers, willing to pay some one to get the drivers working.01:26
jetscreamerno, the other one!01:26
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Wammy|bah! stupid keyboard.01:26
saniXWammy|, what do you need ?01:26
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jetscreamerWammy|: call geeksRus01:27
Krillancellognomefreak: That's true, but I never said one package. I said one _line_.01:27
_jasonKrillancello: the package wastrel mentioned seems to be it01:27
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biloypanyone know of a card counter for Yahoo spades for Linux01:27
gnomefreakoh sorry01:27
jetscreamernm they're probably windows only01:27
mikebothow can i add a folder (like the Applications, Places, &c. folders) on my panel?01:27
kejupwammyl- did you try contacting paid ubuntu support?01:27
otto_seraphim: thanks for the help01:27
Wammy|saniX, I have a acer travelmate 720tx with a neomagic 2200 sound device, and i cant get it to work.01:27
gnomefreakbiloyp: card counting is not legal :(01:27
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_jasonbiloyp: pen and paper works01:27
mikebotgnomefreak, card counting is legal01:27
KakiPukulClik on the custom icon... mikebot: i think01:27
biloypLOl thx gnomefreak and jason01:28
Wammy|the main reason for this laptop is the sound card i need a mobile sound system,.01:28
biloypI try and use my brain but dont work well all the time01:28
kejupwammyl- http://www.ubuntu.com/support/supportoptions/paidsupport01:28
mikebotKakiPukul, where is that?01:28
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gnomefreakmikebot: its not legal and will get you arrested at a casino01:28
Lars_Gkejup: Can't find it, sorry.01:28
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_jasonbiloyp: personally I use a ruler for the pool game, works well01:28
mikebotgnomefreak, it is legal and you wont get arrested, you'll get kicked out01:28
biloypI meant on line01:28
KrillancelloAnything's legal as long as you don't get caught. ;)01:28
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biloypa ruler?01:28
gnomefreakmikebot: its stealing from the casino01:28
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mikebotgnomefreak, you will be asked to elave that is01:28
gnomefreakand pssssst offtopic01:28
Wammy|saniX, interested?01:28
biloypjust curious01:29
_jasonbiloyp: yeah to line up the shots (let's end this now since it's not support)01:29
mikebotgnomefreak, it's a using logic to win a hand01:29
biloypok jason01:29
mikebotgnomefreak, a more advanced notion of stay on 21 and hitting on 1001:29
biloypthx though01:29
mikebotgnomefreak, you use stratgey to play your hands--it's not illegal01:29
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gnomefreakmikebot: offtopic01:29
saniXWammy|, try this command sudo gnome-sound-properties &01:29
mikebotgnomefreak, hah01:29
biloypjust curious though01:30
mikebothow can i add a folder (like the Applications, Places, &c. folders) on my panel?01:30
kejupLars_G- thanks for looking....kakipukul gave me a good link: http://packages.ubuntu.com01:30
Krillancellomikebot: You can add subfolders of Applications to the panel, but Applications/Places/System are already on the panel.01:31
xoredhow to make a "screenshot to clibort" with linux ?01:31
dejxPrtSc01:31
mikebotKrillancello, yeah, i don't want a sub menu, but like a folder next to System01:31
mikebotKrillancello, that comes up like the others do01:31
PuMpErNiCkLemikebot: right-click -> add to panel -> main menu01:31
Krillancellomikebot: Oh, you mean add another top-level menu?01:31
_jasonxored: clibort?01:31
mikebotKrillancello, yeha01:32
xored_jason: clipboard01:32
mikebotPuMpErNiCkLe, where do i right click?01:32
PuMpErNiCkLemikebot: on the panel01:32
KrillancelloThat would probably require some heavy modification of the menu files.01:32
gnomefreakpdmenu :)01:32
_jasonxored: if you go to system > take screenshort, you can save it to a file and then insert it somewhere01:33
KrillancelloWell, maybe not. It's been a while since I cared to edit menus apart from hiding stuff.01:33
mikebotPuMpErNiCkLe, and if i remove things from this menu, it wont remove it from my other Applications menu?01:33
dooglusmikebot: you know you can add "drawers", right?01:33
gnomefreakthere are pre compiled menus you can install with the one you already have and you can get rid of that one01:33
mikebotPuMpErNiCkLe, oh nevermind, i did the wrong one, thanks01:33
mikebotdooglus, what's a drawer?01:34
Krillancellomikebot: A drawer is kinda like a KDE menu.01:34
dooglusmikebot: it's like a menu, only thinner.  right-click the panel, say 'add to panel', and add a drawer01:34
KrillancelloIt's a menu with an icon instead of text.01:34
Krillancello>_>01:34
Lars_GDrawers are nestable expanding launchers in Gnome01:34
Lars_GThe only gnome feature I miss on KDE01:34
mikebotdooglus, ah okay, this is what i want01:35
dooglusmikebot: you found it?01:35
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mikebotdooglus, yeah, thanks01:35
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mikebotdooglus, is there a way to make it so when i click off it, it closes?01:35
lucidmonkeycan someone help me get blender64 bit running?01:35
dooglusmikebot: not that I know of01:35
Hollowman8904to make a script run by just typing in the name (no need to worry about directory), you just copy it to the bin folder, right?01:35
kejupLars_G- Oh come on. You know Konqueror kicks bootie,01:35
Krillancellomikebot, dooglus: The reason I don't use drawers. ;P01:36
Hollowman8904like it becomes a command01:36
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mikebotKrillancello, hehe01:36
dooglusmikebot: we don't want to offer too much flexibility.  it would confuse you.  :)01:36
mikebotKrillancello, but the add menu thing adds another applications, etc.01:36
mikebotdooglus, haha, apparently01:36
gnomefreakis there a way to install a package without it removing another package?01:36
dooglusgnomefreak: if it's removing another package it's because the 2 packages are mutually incompatible.01:36
kejupLars_G- Firefox and epiphany are really starting to get on my nerves (so sluggish). I might install Konqueror soon (even though it won't be quite as zippy and won't have the same integration that it does with KDE).01:36
dooglusgnomefreak: you might find some "-force" flag, but you shouldn't.01:37
Hollowman8904to make a script run by just typing in the name (no need to worry about directory), you just copy it to the bin folder, right?01:37
gnomefreakdooglus: yes i know but i cant get an older version of it01:37
esacis there a "fake install" command for apt-get so i can see what version it would install ?01:37
canllaithKHTML is zippier than gecko :) I recently did some testing for get some sane minimum system requirements to put on the KDE docs01:37
lucidmonkeyhow do i put the download package somewhere that i can actuall run it from?01:37
dooglusHollowman8904: you copy it into any directory which is in your $PATH variable, and make sure it's executable01:37
gnomefreakthese 2 packages need to be installed together :(01:37
brennerkejup: ff1.5 is supposed to be more zippy01:37
canllaithKonqi would run with 64MB memory, firefox just fell over and died01:37
wastrelit is more zippy01:37
_jasonesac: apt-get -s install blah01:37
dooglusesac: "apt-cache policy <package>"01:37
_jasonesac: but apt-cache policy blah, is better for what you want01:37
brennerlucidmonkey: what format is it?01:38
Lars_Gkejup: My favorite version of konqueror though is Safari01:38
mikebotdooglus, wait, this drawer, i want it so like i can add files to it, and folders, and the folders will open to the right...like the start menu in windows01:38
esackk, tnx01:38
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mikebotdooglus, or the debian folder in Applications01:38
lucidmonkeybrenner, it is tar.gz01:38
kejupbrenner- I bet it still isn't as zippy as Konqueror. Anyone know why the linux version of Firefox is so damn slow? The windows version is much faster.01:38
dooglusmikebot: I don't know if it can do that.  I think it might just be somewhere to put icons, but I'm not sure.01:38
gnomefreakmikebot: pdmenu for a debian menu inside your applications dropdown01:38
mikebotgnomefreak, what's pdmenu?01:39
Krillancellokejup: Because Windows makes up for it by eating all the memory and being slow itself. ;P01:39
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Lars_GHollowman8904: If you DO copy it to bin, using sudo, check it's NOT writable by users other than root01:39
gnomefreakits the debian menu add on for your applications menu01:39
brennerlucidmonkey: you need to save that and extract it.  my guess is it's source.  use checkinstall to install, then you can remove the dir later.  but read the README or INSTALL file first01:39
kejupLars_G- I'm not a big fan of the OSX interface. The lack of multiple desktops makes things very cluttered. Does Safari even have tabs?01:39
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mikebotgnomefreak, do i have to download it from synaptic?01:39
gnomefreakmikebot: sudo apt-get install pdmenu01:39
dooglusmikebot: I just managed to add a "menu bar" into my drawer - right click inside the open drawer and "add to drawer"01:39
Lars_Gkejup: There is a virtual desktop system for OS X, even without it, the rest of the UI makes up for it, and yes, Safari has tabs.01:39
kejupKrillancello- I know, but when I spend 90% of my time browsing the web then I don't mind the tradeoff.01:40
lucidmonkeybrenner, there are instruction on the blender site but it won't allow me to extract to usr/local01:40
canllaithis there a package with nice fixed width fonts? The ones installed are a little limited in choice01:40
gnomefreakubotu tell canllaith about fonts01:40
mikebotdooglus, it's just i don't want the menu bar, but my own menu01:40
dooglusgnomefreak: I don't think he said he wanted the debian menu, I think he said he wanted a menu that *acts like* the debian menu.01:40
Krillancellokejup: Are you talking about page load time, or the time it takes Firefox to start up?01:40
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dooglusmikebot: are you sure?  we've done extensive usability testing and found that you *don't* want that...01:41
mikebotdooglus, that's right01:41
wastrelkejup:  did you upgrade to ff 1.5 ?01:41
holobytedthe fonts on my DVI display seem to be a little bit too.. sharp.. and font preferences don't seem to alter them - any suggestions?01:41
Lars_GKrillancello: The UI's response time in Firefox in general I guess.01:41
lucidmonkeybrenner, there is no Reamde or Install.txt...01:41
gnomefreakrefresh my memory what does the debian menu do differnt than gnome menu?01:41
Lars_GKrillancello: XUL has a price to pay for portability01:41
kejupKrillancello- Both. Also the scroll speed and the page render speed. Just about everything is slow with Firefox.01:41
brennerlucidmonkey: instructions url?01:41
gnomefreaki havent used debain in over a year01:41
mikebotdooglus, if you've used windows, i'm tlaking about how you can add folders to that menu, and folders inside those, and they open up to the right01:41
Hollowman8904how do you ask for input in a script?01:41
dooglusmikebot: it sounds like you're confused.  you've probably been looking at too many configuration options.  here, let's take a few more away...01:41
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wastrelHollowman8904:  google bash scripting howto  ?01:41
brennergnomefreak: it doesn't have the orange triplets icon :P01:41
Lars_Gmikebot: a drawer's directionality is afaik independently configurable01:41
avuHollowman8904, read01:42
lucidmonkeyhttp://download.blender.org/documentation/html/chapter_installation.html <-brenner01:42
kejupMikebot- Use KDE. It is better for customization IMO.01:42
gnomefreaklol brenner that can be changed i hear01:42
canllaithawesome thanks gnomefreak01:42
gnomefreakyw canllaith01:42
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gnomefreakkejup: fluxbox is even easier to configure :)01:42
brennerlucidmonkey: aha.  that's just a binary then.  run it via ./blender as stated01:42
mikebotkejup, i tried kde, but it doens't looka s nice01:42
[javamaniac] hi!!!01:42
mikebotLars_G, drawers don't close automatically01:42
[javamaniac] where can i find automatix sources??01:42
xstI have written a suggestion on how ubuntu could support non-free and restricted formats in a more user friendly manor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IncludeRestricted   Any comments?01:43
wastrel!automatix01:43
ubotuAutomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.01:43
gnomefreakmaybe not easier but more configurable01:43
[javamaniac] i mean,the tar.gz?01:43
lucidmonkeybrenner, i extraced to my desktop and that doesn't work01:43
kejupmikebot- really? Usually people think KDE is the nicer looking for the two.01:43
lucidmonkeyit does nothing01:43
wastrel[javamaniac] :  use easyubuntu instead.01:43
mikebotkejup, i would use kde, except also the menus it has have way too many things in it01:43
wastrel!tell [javamaniac]  about easyubuntu01:43
brennergnomefreak: i removed menu icons completely.  no lag anymore01:43
gnomefreakubotu tell [javamaniac]  about automatix01:43
mikebotkejup, it's too clustered for me01:43
brennerlucidmonkey: you don't get a folder on the desktop?01:43
gnomefreakubotu thanks01:43
ubotumy pleasure, gnomefreak01:43
lucidmonkeybrenner, i do, and all the files are there01:43
lucidmonkeybut i click on blender and it doesn't work01:44
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[javamaniac] ok,thanks01:44
lucidmonkeyit also won't run from terminal window01:44
lucidmonkeyi think it needs to be somewhere else01:44
[javamaniac] but,just for the record01:44
brennerlucidmonkey: any errors?01:44
Kr4t05jetscreamer: Which modules should I load?01:44
[javamaniac] where can i find it?curiosity01:44
brennerlucidmonkey: you're running it via something like ~/Desktop/blender right?01:44
SGershonHi again! GRUB question, this time:01:44
gnomefreak!esyubuntu01:44
Lars_GKr4t05: For what?01:44
ubotugnomefreak: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:44
gnomefreak!easyubuntu01:44
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu01:44
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SGershonI usually use only ubuntu on my computer.01:44
SGershonIn work we have Suse, and I instaled SUSE just to have it ready if I happen to need it.01:44
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SGershonBut SUSE's grub loader overwrote my Ubuntu grub loader.01:45
SGershon(of course)01:45
mikebotno way to do this menu thing then?01:45
SGershonHow can I make the Ubuntu grub loader to be he one to be use01:45
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Kr4t05Lars_G: I'm having sound problems in Doom 3, and I was told to load certain modules with modconf.01:45
brennerwhere's the geese juggling reference from?01:45
_jasonubotu: tell SGershon about grub01:45
kejupwastrel- ff 1.5 isn't in the *iverse yet is it?01:45
jetscreamerKr4t05 snd-pcm-oss  snd-seq-oss ,  if they're not already loaded.  rtc vs genrtc is in a different area. you want the rtc not generic rtc.01:45
Lars_GKr4t05: What kind of sound problems?01:45
_jasonSGershon: I'd assume the steps are the same as if windows had overwritten (see the link)01:45
lucidmonkeybrenner, hmm, this time it worked from terminal!01:45
lucidmonkeyi swear... ty for your help!01:45
SGershon_jason, thanks!01:45
wastrelkejup:  no but there's a howto for installing it on breezy - and it's significantly faster than 1.0.701:45
wastrel!tell kejup about ff1.501:46
soundraySGershon: I suggest you stick with the SuSE boot loader, but copy your Ubuntu /boot/grub/menu.lst over to the SuSE partition.01:46
brennerlucidmonkey: how did you run it from terminal before?01:46
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RedRosehow do i reconfigure gnome to allow more resolution settings?01:46
gnomefreakor anything else01:46
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SGershonsoundray, It is a good idea, but then i I ned to do something to it, I'd have to boot on Suse just for this...01:46
_jasonubotu: tell RedRose about fixres01:46
lucidmonkeythe same way... tis strange.  i closed and tried the same command and know it won't start again01:46
lucidmonkey*now01:46
SGershonmikebot, what do you need with the menues?01:47
soundraySGershon: no, you can mount the Suse partition from within ubuntu.01:47
Kr4t05jetscreamer: I don't see them in there.01:47
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Lars_Glucidmonkey: When it fails to start, what error do you get?01:47
mikebotSGershon, have you ever used windows?01:47
dooglusmikebot: did you try asking in #gnome?01:47
mikebotdooglus, no01:47
kejupxst- are you sitll there? I have some comments on your suggestion.01:47
dooglusmikebot: they might have more of an idea what GNOME can do01:47
jetscreamerKr4t05: should be waaay at the bottom, sound area. you might have to poke around a bit.01:47
mikebotdooglus, okay, thanks01:47
wastrelgnomefreak:  i imagine it comes with a friendly ubuntu-specific howto and doesn't require advanced cli skills like making symlinks & such...01:47
brennerre: fixres.  do you have to know which video driver you're currently using, or is the current one selected by default.  that's a possible stumbling block for newbies01:47
lucidmonkey./blender: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:47
xstkejup: Yes. Hit me01:48
Englanow I'm angry. Gnome just randomly refuses to log in. Usually I'm able to fix it, but this time it wont... it just sits with a brown screen before the sound and the ubutnu splash is shown... how do I solve this.01:48
jetscreamerKr4t05: each entry in the top-level has 1 or >1 modules under it01:48
EnglaI've tried the .ICEAuthority file perms01:48
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_jasonlucidmonkey: install libstdc++501:48
Lars_Ghmmm01:48
canllaithEngla: emptying /tmp might help, sometimes there are stale lock files01:48
canllaithEngla: and also, check the permissions on /tmp if you can't write to it gnome will not start01:48
Englacanllaith: well I've rebooted twice01:48
Englabut okay01:48
kejupwastrel- eh, I think I'll wait for the official version. I don't like to moneky around with the repositories. I've broken debian too many times and now I have a phobia.01:48
canllaiththe permissions persist through reboots on my ubuntu system01:48
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Kr4t05jetsreamer: Ok.01:48
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[javamaniac] then,where can i find automatrix,just to compare......01:49
AngryElfhey all, I've been trying to get a 2.6.15.4 kernel booted and I keep getting a kernel panic right when it loads -> it can't mount the root fs at unknown-block(0,0)............I'm pretty sure I had all the modules compiled in with the kernl but i guess i'm wrong, could anybody look at my .config file to see if i've missed anything?01:49
lucidmonkey_jason, lol.. ok, shortest path to that?01:49
Lars_Glucidmonkey: Is there a file ending in .sh in the directory?01:49
wastrelkejup:  it's worth it :] 01:49
Kr4t05jetsreamer: The first two are loaded, but I'm not sure where to look for the other one.01:49
lucidmonkeyLars_G, no01:49
_jasonlucidmonkey: sudo aptitude install01:49
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[javamaniac] then,where can i find automatrix,just to compare it01:49
xstkejup: U there?01:49
_jasonlucidmonkey: sudo aptitude install libstdc++5, but isn't blender in the repositories?01:49
kejupxst- I think one of the major factors in those typical formats (mp3, dvd, etc.) not being supported is legal reasons.01:49
gnomefreakwastrel: ill let you know as soon as i figure it out01:49
Englacanllaith: what should tmp permissions be? they look okay -- drwxrwxrwt, root:root01:49
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rendihi wanna ask01:49
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Lars_G_jason: The program worked once, it's possible his blender set comes with the libstdc it was linked against, and that he just needs the right directories in his LD path01:49
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rendiMemTotal: 1048576 kB how many in Mb ??01:50
wastrelgnomefreak:  untar it in a subdirectory :p  it spewed junk all over my desktop when i opened it01:50
digitalfoxis the draw_desktop gconf key ignored by nautilus in breezy?01:50
kejupxst- The packages necessary to get things like mp3s and dvds working is illegal in some countries, primarily in the US.01:50
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majdHey, i want to make a shortcut in the applications menu to load up limewire. Here's the weird thing, to load it up, i have to navigate to the directory, then do java -jar LimeWire.jar.....i can't just do java -jar tarballs/LimeWire/LimeWire.jar  << that gives me an error when limewire loads up. So is there a way to make a button in the applications menu run more than one command line?01:50
Kr4t05jetsreamer: Where would I look for the rtc one?01:50
canllaithEngla: that looks fine01:50
_jasonLars_G: oh I see01:50
Englacanllaith: and I can't experiment however I want because the computer locks up randomly when I kill gdm. Not every time.. will try now01:50
kejupxst- By making it easy to install these packages, Ubuntu may be liable.01:50
mikebotwastrel, are you using gnome?01:50
Krillancellomajd: <command1> && <command2> ?01:50
wastrelmikebot:  yeah01:50
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thedevilsjesterIs there any place I can download a deb for KDevelop that is compatible with ubuntu/kubuntu ?01:50
xstkejup: Yes, but an experienced user still have a way of installing them. Relatively easily indeed as the packages all exist in a ubuntu-repository (universe). But for unexperienced users the technical-skill requirements are a show stopper01:51
majdKrillancello, i'm a newbie :(01:51
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mikebotwastrel, have you ever used windows?01:51
EnglaI nuked tmp :-)01:51
Englasee what happens01:51
majdso i can do "cd tarballs/LimeWire && java -jar LimeWire.jar"?01:51
rendihellooo01:51
wastrelmikebot:  only occasionally for the past few years...01:51
Krillancellomajd: I believe so.01:51
lucidmonkey_jason, that worked01:51
rendican see me ?01:51
gnomefreaktarballs is a folder of yours?01:51
lucidmonkey_jason, i am running 64bit so no01:51
xstkejup: Easy or not easy: If things are available in the universe-repos anyway it shouldn't depend on the users skills to get the software01:52
canllaithoh that's why my menu looks huge. Kubuntu is using 22px icons in the KDE menu01:52
lucidmonkeythe 32bit is and that was easy :)01:52
UpayaviraCan someone tell me what the Ubuntu equivalent of chkconfig is? where chkconfig in RH is a tool to see which things from under init.d are configured for which runlevels, and to control (add, delete, modify) the settings01:52
mikebotwastrel, okay, so you know in windows the start menu, and when youa dd a folder to it, it like op[ens to the right, and fodlers in that open to the right, etc.?01:52
Krillancellomajd: That command would cd from your home directory (/home/username), so that command would give you /home/username/tarballs/LimeWire.01:52
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kejupwastrel- even if ff1.5 is fast, 1.7 will probably be bloated......part of me things I should just switch back to konqueror (even though it isn't nicely integrated with gnome)01:52
mikebotwastrel, i want to add somehting like that on my panel (like the debian folder in Applications)01:52
majdKrillancello, right..that's what i want it to do :)01:52
SGershon_jason, Ok, trying it now. 3, 2, 1... bye.01:52
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xstkejup: That is IMHO against the ubuntu-motto: That things should be easy and userfriendly.01:52
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Lars_Gkejup: Dude, I agree with you, FF is great, but slow, even 1.5 which is faster, is slower than other browsers. If you don't want to use FF don't use it, it's your right :)01:53
silmarbrasileiros??01:53
jetscreamerKr4t05: for the 3rd or 4th time eh... :)01:53
brennerkejup: so switch then01:53
jetscreamerKr4t05 snd-pcm-oss  snd-seq-oss ,  if they're not already loaded.  rtc vs genrtc is in a different area. you want the rtc not generic rtc.01:53
Krillancellomajd: Then cd tarballs/LimeWire && java -jar LimeWire.jar should work. Although you could (and probably should) use ~/tarballs/LimeWire or /home/username/tarballs/LimeWire to make sure it does it right.01:53
Kr4t05jetsreamer: Yeah, but.01:53
soundray!br01:53
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.01:53
Lars_Gsilmar: #ubuntu-br01:53
Kr4t05jetsreamer: Where would I look for the rtc one?01:53
kejupxst- I know that things should be easy, but those packages are illegal in the united states.01:53
jetscreamerKr4t05: /lastlog jetscreamer01:53
silmarobrigado!!01:53
Krillancellomajd: Remember to replace "username" with your username, if you go with the latter route above.01:54
lucidmonkeyso far i've noticed little difference between 32 and 64bit ubuntu but i want to get some test renders going01:54
kejupxst- They probably shouldn't be available at all in any ubuntu branded repositories, but for whatever reason ubuntu decided that they are not in danger of prosecution with those packages in the *iverse01:54
jetscreamerKr4t05: not sure, i forget. starts with a c maybe...01:54
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adubdoes anyone have a wifi card with atheros chipset01:55
soundrayadub: yes01:55
kejupbrenner- I have all my usernames etc. in firefox right now.....I'll probably switch after I fix my laptop01:55
majdKrillancello, when i paste "cd tarballs/LimeWire && java -jar LimeWire.jar" into the terminal, it works, but when i do it for the button, then the terminal pops up for a second, disaprears, and nothing happens01:55
majdany idea why?01:55
Lars_Gkejup: What packages are you talking about?01:55
adubhave you got monitor mode to work on it with the madwifi drivers01:55
mikebotwastrel, any ideas?01:55
kejupLars_G- the mp3 and dvd codecs01:55
Lars_Gkejup: Ah yes.01:55
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CarlFKis there something to report  IDE SMART stats?01:56
soundrayadub: no. At the time when I tried madwifi, it was a known limitation.01:56
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Englacanllaith: It did actually work!! First I rm -rf:ed  /tmp, that was a bad Idea, but when recreating it empty again, it worked. Now I have another trick in my toolbox thanks (and yes, this was caused by improper shutdown (lack of power/laptop) so no surprise there01:56
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Krillancellomajd: It could be that LimeWire doesn't like the method. You might try selecting the option in the button config that says something like "Run in a Terminal."01:56
kejupLars_G- XST was saying that ubuntu should make it easier. I was just telling him that they aren't easy to install for legal reasons, not because it was overlooked.01:56
adubsoundray are you still using your card01:56
canllaithEngla: glad to help01:56
soundrayadub: no, it's broken now.01:56
Lars_Gkejup: Yup and I agree with you01:57
Kr4t05jetsreamer: Loaded.01:57
Englacanllaith: This dir was supposed to be emptied at boot, though. I don't get that it wasn't..01:57
saifhello, i want to download j2ee, and it comes in a .bin file, i remember i once read that there is something i can do, to get apt to be aware of this install, what should i search for to find out how to do this?01:57
Kr4t05jetsreamer: Restart?01:57
majdKrillancello, i did =\01:57
aduboh01:57
adublol01:57
canllaithEngla: *shrugs*01:57
lucidmonkeyLars_G, sudo aptitude install i need to do this everytime i restart my terminal session?01:57
jetscreamerKr4t05: 'shouldn't need to. can't swear.01:57
_jasonubotu: tell saif about java01:57
bimberiubotu tell saif about java01:57
canllaithEngla: I've only used Ubuntu for one day now01:57
soundrayadub, I remember this link having been very helpful (dug up from my bookmarks): http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi01:58
canllaithI have no idea what it does with /tmp :)01:58
Lars_Glucidmonkey: No, I think or pray not, but I am not %100 sure :)01:58
Krillancellomajd: I'm not really sure. I don't use LimeWire or java apps much, and I don't currently have a Gnome GUI available to me.01:58
kejupxst- If you are a US citizen then you should be writing to your Congressman instead of Ubuntu. I guarantee you that if it was legal MP3 and DVD functionality would be built into ubuntu by default.01:58
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Kr4t05jetsreamer: Well, Doom 3 still has bad audio.01:58
KrillancelloAlthough I do know that &&'s work in panel buttons. I've done it before.01:58
majdeh, ok thanks for helping though01:58
Kr4t05jetsreamer: It sounds metallic and buzzy.01:58
majdyeah it worked with i ran the same command in the terminal01:58
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Angel_DexAnyone play openduke?01:58
Angel_Dexplzzzzzzzzzness?01:58
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kejupxst- still there?01:59
Krillancellokejup: Maybe the FBI came and raided his house.01:59
saif!javadebs01:59
kejupKrillacello - lol01:59
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LarstiQwould anyone perchance know how to get compiz gconf keys when they aren't created by the package install?02:00
soundraykejup: maybe drop the hyphen02:00
KrillancelloAw, damn.02:00
KrillancelloI missed my show.02:00
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kejupsounday: does the hyphen kill the highlighting?02:00
KrillancelloBut then I was making dinner when it was on.02:00
KrillancelloSo that explains why.02:00
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soundrayKrillancello: were you supposed to watch or host it?02:00
kejupsoundray- oops, I meant soundray02:00
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Krillancellosoundray: It's a TV show. Emperor of the Sea on AZNTV.02:01
kejupyou guys have names that are too long02:01
javioloI cant see dvds in ubuntu02:01
javioloI tried totem and vlc player02:01
javioloany thoughs ?02:01
adubhow do you put a wireless card with atheros chipset into monitor mode02:01
brennerkejup- well, does this highlight?02:01
kejupjaviolo: we were just talking about that02:01
Krillancellokejup: Lol. This has been my 'net persona/alias for at least a year now. And the full version is longer.02:01
kejupbrenner- yes02:01
clever`revjaviolo you need to install a decrypting lubrary02:01
javiolokejup sorry just came back02:01
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shivI think the only hinderance to switching to linux fully is the inability to install/uninstall by double clicks02:01
brennerkejup: same here.  i think you just scared him off :)02:01
Kr4t05!tell javiolo about dvd02:01
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javiolo!dvd02:01
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)02:01
canllaithshiv: you should check out Klik if you're a KDE user =)02:02
V4Vendettaquestion: how much HD space do i need to reserve for ext3 ?02:02
Angel_DexAnyone play openduke?02:02
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V4Vendettai'm using the program tune2fs.02:02
clever`revi found a much easyer way02:02
kejupjaviolo- well what we were talking about wouldn't have been helpful anyway.....we were just saying that DVDs don't work in ubuntu because it is illegal in the US02:02
CarlFKkejup: you know about 'tab completion' to fill in the rest of someone's nic?02:02
wastrelmikebot:  you want some sort of gnome menu editor - i don't know whether there's a stable one anymore - the old ones broke when gnome2 was released...02:02
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Jae686US == fail?02:02
clever`revthere was some script i ran in ubuntu and it installed the stuff for me javiolo02:02
_jasonshiv: that's possible, I'll just make an executable script that run gksudo apt-get install blah02:02
clever`revforget where it was but i think an error in dvdcp told me02:02
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Krillancellokejup: That's where opensource comes into the mix.02:02
CarlFKV4Vendetta: a full ubuntu install needs 3.5gig - is that wat you needed to know?02:02
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pbransfordhow would i rename all the files in the current directory with an all lowercase equivalent?02:02
shivI see02:02
javiolobut installing libdvdcss2 will solve the problem ?02:02
shivthanks02:02
V4VendettaCarlFK~ no, do you know what tune2fs is?02:03
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Kr4t05javiolo: Should.02:03
kejupshiv- why do you say there is an inability to install/unstall by double clicks? you can do that02:03
KrillancelloIf you can't use their software (program, drivers, whatever) for free... make your own.02:03
_jasonpbransford: rename command, 'man rename' has that example I believe02:03
CarlFKpbransford: hold please...02:03
V4VendettaCarlFK~ man tune2fs02:03
reds`hello, I was wondering if someone could help me get my wireless connection up and running02:03
kejupcarlfk- nope, how do I do it?02:03
brennerJae686: at what?  democracy? winter olympics? or do you mean us as in a collective group? :-/02:03
Kr4t05reds02:03
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pbransfordrename y/A-Z/a-z/ *02:03
reds`Kr4t05: yes?02:03
pbransfordfound it02:03
Kr4t05!tell reds` about wireless02:03
kejupCarlFK, I figured it out, thanks02:03
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Jae686US == weird software patent laws02:04
KrillancelloThe problem is it usually takes a long time to make a useable alternative if you can't even look at the original code (legally).02:04
CarlFKkejup: type Krill and hit 'tab'02:04
clever`rev!tell clever`rev about wireless02:04
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shivI was installing 855 resolution and even though I was in the directory it would not take the make command I failed to understand what was I doing wrong02:04
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pbransfordOK, what makes a file bold green in ls?02:04
V4Vendettapbransford~ if it's executable.02:04
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kejupKrillancello, you can write opensource software all you want, but it won't keep you out of court02:05
javiolothat repos will work over mac ppc ?02:05
reds`hmm02:05
CarlFKpbransford: this will force everything to UPPER: for file in *; do mv "$file" "${file}.temp.smallcaps"; mv "${file}.temp.smallcaps" "$(echo "$file" | tr a-z A-Z)"; done02:05
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CarlFKso A-Z a-z should do what you asked for02:05
reds`I have the dlink 650+ and according to that site, it should work automatically, but it does not02:05
Krillancellokejup: If you make up your own code to do the same thing as someone else's code, and they can't prove you looked at theirs without them allowing you to, I don't think they can pursue a legal challenge.02:06
reds`pcmcia02:06
V4VendettaDoes anyone know in an ext3 filesystem, how much reserved_blocks you need in % ?02:06
_jasonCarlFK: that's overkill when you have the rename command :)02:06
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bimberireds`: This page might be useful too - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto02:06
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baboHi guys, I guess this is a trivial question, but I keep geting a "command unrecognised : USER ..." when I try to log into my ftp host server. I've gone over the strigs numerous times, is there anything that I'm not thinking of ... ?02:06
CarlFK_jason: oh yeah... I think I heard about rename...02:06
ithielhi02:06
ithielI've got a Samsung A850 with Verizon service. Using my USB data cable, can I configure Linux to use this phone as a modem?02:06
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mikebotwastrel, ah, okay, thanks02:06
reds`ty bimberi02:06
CarlFKreds`: I have a 650+ too.  It worked with hoary, but not with breezy.  if you give me an hour I can tell you if it works with dapper02:07
bimberireds`: np :)02:07
kejupKrillancello, I think it depends if it is copyrighted or patented. If copyrighted you can mimic it, but if it is patented (like MP3 or DVD) then you can't. I'm not 100% sure though.02:07
soundrayKrillancello: your position will be much better, though, if you can prove that you followed a 'clean-room' approach.02:07
dlibabo, that's not a valid ftp command, try "help" in ftp02:07
V4VendettaDoes anyone know in an ext3 filesystem, how much reserved_blocks you need in % ?02:07
Krillancellosoundray: Clean-room approach?02:08
dliV4Vendetta, by default 5% is reserved for inode tables02:08
KeyframeI had Hoary installed, I changed repository from hoary to breezy, did the update packgages from synaptic.. and then after reboot, GNOME failed on startup.. I did apt-get -f upgrade then (I think some pkgs weren't downloaded or something), then did apt-get install.. and now XSERVER won't run.. I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.. still no luck :D I'm downloading breezy install CD now.. damn laptop02:08
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V4Vendettadli~ thanks so 5% ?02:08
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kejupKrillancello, Sony and Microsoft wouldn't be paying $20 royalties to make their videogame consoles play DVDs if they didn't have to (and I'm sure they are capable of rolling their own).02:08
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dliV4Vendetta, yes, I think it's also 5% in reiserfs02:08
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V4Vendettadli~ Setting reserved blocks percentage to 5% (1916052 blocks)02:08
V4Vendettadli~ thanks :-)02:08
soundrayKrillancello: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design02:08
ithieldoes anyone know if I will be able to configure my Samsung mobile as a USB modem?02:08
babodli: but I'm using the fireFTP gui for firefox ?02:08
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babodli: how can it form invalid commands02:09
babo?02:09
themachinehow can I exit X before installing something?02:09
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dliV4Vendetta, jfs don't reserve inode tables, it's more dynamic02:09
soundrayithiel: do a web search on your model name and 'linux'02:09
themachineI'm trying to install the nvidia drivers02:09
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babothemachine: control + alt + backspace02:09
V4Vendettadli~ i'm using ext3, do i need to reserve any?02:09
dlibabo: try another client, it might be clear when you doing so02:09
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dliV4Vendetta, mkfs does that for you02:09
ithielsoundray, that wouldn't be terribly helpful, lemme check it real quick02:09
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babodli: so is fireftp broken then or what ?02:10
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kejupHmmm, it seems that there is a lot of confusion on this issue. It would be nice if Ubuntu provided an official statement, informing the users of all the legal implications of MP3/DVD/etc. playback.02:10
dlibabo, no idea, just use whatever works02:10
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SGershon_jason,  it did not work02:10
SGershon:(02:10
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Keyframesorry for stupid questions, but how can I find out computers MAC address?02:10
_jasonSGershon: still uses suse?02:10
babodli: cool, thanks02:10
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soundrayKeyframe: ifconfig02:10
sbalneavEvening all02:10
SGershon_jason, yeah.02:10
Keyframethanks02:10
javiolois there any way to get libdvdcss2 ? cos using the SeveasPackages its only for i386 and I run a mac ppc02:10
kejupkeyframe, run "ifconfig"02:10
Krillancellosoundray: Interesting.02:10
SGershonI'm reading the page again02:10
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ithielsoundray, yeah, not detecting the phone02:11
Keyframeis there a way to reinstall xserver? if so, how?02:11
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ithielsoundray google is finding nothing relevant02:12
sbalneavKeyframe: Why would you need to do that?02:12
kejupKeyframe, why do you want to reinstall xserver?02:12
soundrayKeyframe: 'apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg'. But probably you just want to 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'02:12
jetscreamerapt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg maybe, but it's not going to be all the packages that x-window-system brings in02:12
jetscreamerwhat soundray said02:12
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KrillancelloAlrighty then... this laptop I have here is booting into a Ubuntu 'server' installation.02:13
jetscreamerhow exciting!02:13
reds`I think I just broke my /etc/network/interfaces02:13
babodli: what's the core ftp gui app for ubuntu ?02:13
KeyframeI tried dpkg-reconfigure .. but I start up laptop now and it says "I cannot start the X Server blahblahblah" even after -reconfigure02:13
Kr4t05jetscreamer: idAudioHardwareALSA::Write: 4096 frames overflowed and dropped02:13
soundrayithiel: what's your phone model?02:13
dstryrhttp://pastebin.com/58123102:13
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dstryrwhat's the prob?02:13
Kr4t05jetscreamer: Could that be it?02:13
me2winKeyframe:02:13
bimberidli: nautilus, the file manager - Places -> Connect to Server02:13
KrillancelloNow... suggestions for apt-get'ing just X and Gnome?02:13
bimberier: babo ^^^ (sorry dli)02:14
dlibabo: no idea, try lftp , which is not gui02:14
stperehello everybody, does somebody knows some handwriting recognition software for linux?02:14
mjrKrillancello, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop02:14
Keyframeit says would you like to view the X server output... yes no.. but screen is kinda garbled and I can't choose either :D02:14
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jetscreamerKr4t05: 'could' be. but i don't know much about other sound stuff, just what works for me. and mine hasn't broken like that, just the usual install blues kind.02:14
ithielsoundray, Samsung A850, Verizon  Service02:14
reds`any idea why wifi-radar doesn't pick up on any networks either?02:14
Krillancellomjr: ubuntu-desktop has too much bloat for me. It's the same as not doing the server install, so what's the point?02:14
brennerkejup: well, they do have: "Some of the packages listed here may be illegal in your country."  on the restricted wiki.  right after that, they have: "This page is not legal advice."  you're right though, maybe they should put out something on legal issues,02:14
me2winKeyframe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg02:14
soundrayKeyframe: that output is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log too.02:14
dstryrwhat yall think?02:15
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dliwill ubuntu ship dvd for free? cd is too much squeezed02:15
me2winwhat?02:15
ownerxnegative dli02:15
KeyframeI know.. I ran it now in recovery mode... lets see02:15
me2winyou think that it will perform different if the data has more space to rest?02:16
dliownerx, why not :( is dvd too expensive?02:16
brennerwhat does the dvd have that the cd doesn't ooi?02:16
pbransfordanyone know of any good utilities like sidenet for setting up wine02:16
reds`I'm really gettin my ass whooped over here by this card. It takes about 2 1/2 minutes to activate the card02:16
ithielsoundray, catch that model?02:16
me2windli: the cd and dvd are the same except that the dvd has the live version on it02:16
soundrayithiel: you could just connect it and see if it is registered as a modem (run lsusb).02:16
me2winso in essence, the DVD has more squeezed on it than the cd02:16
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soundrayithiel: if that works, you can give it AT commands using minicom, probably through the device /dev/ttyUSB002:17
brennerme2win: was that meant for me? thanks. :)02:17
ownerxdli im not even sure if the ubuntu dvd has more packages on it02:17
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stpereany idea?02:17
me2winbrenner: yeah heh02:17
dlime2win, after installation for a laptop, I found the cd has no hsfmodem driver, for a dvd, they can put all those drivers in02:17
Keyframelol, it can't find any fonts in usr/share/X11/fonts/ .. how can this be02:18
me2windli: they don't, it's just the live version packed in02:18
dstryrwhat's the cmd to know if you have missing updates or you have available updates to install02:18
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bimberinot totally sure, but my understanding is that the dvd includes more (all?) of the main repository02:18
pbransfordnevermind, found "winetools"02:18
brennerknoppix is still a cd distro though isn't it?  why can't ubuntu do what they did and make the live version installable?02:19
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stperebrenner, it's what dapper will do02:19
dliownerx,why not just follow the debian way, a complete set contains all packages02:19
SGershon_jason, ok... I'll try something else...02:19
j1pHas anyone had any success getting wireless networking to work with a Dell Latitude D610, it uses the Intel Pro Wireless 2915ABG Network Adapter02:19
brennerstpere: ah, nice.02:19
reds`j1p: I can't get any wireless working :(02:19
ithielok, soundray, it shows up as "Samsung Electronics" under lsusb02:19
Kr4t05Ack02:19
dstryrhttp://pastebin.com/58123102:19
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dstryrwhat's the prob?02:19
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ithielsoundray, now what am I doing?02:19
dlij1p, ipw2200 is in kernel, try to rebuild your kernel02:19
Kr4t05Where do I find the Multimedia Systems Selector in KDE?02:20
kejupbrenner, It's been suggested before that perhaps they could simply make these things installable with a click through contract that says something like, "these packages are legal in my country". However, I think it was determined that Ubuntu could still be liable. So maybe instead they should have an html document on freshly installed ubuntu desktops titled, "why can't I play mp3s/dvds/etc". The only way this legal road block is02:20
kejupgoing to change is if people are aware of it. As it is it seems that many people are blaming ubuntu for the faults of the US government.02:20
soundrayithiel: 'sudo apt-get install minicom'02:20
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maudeebI can't view videos on www.ebaumsworld.com. I only have the native firefox.02:20
j1pdli, what would I have to do after recompiling the kernel to make it show up?02:20
ithielsoundray, now what?02:21
basbryankejup: i like that idea02:21
j1pI just reinstalled breezy the other day, clean install off the Breezy Install CD02:21
dlij1p, before you recompile it, download the firmware for it02:21
soundrayithiel: then you'll have to read the docs in /usr/share/doc/minicom -- it's a bit involved, but you'll find out how to access the modem.02:21
Kr4t05Where do I find the Multimedia Systems Selector in KDE?02:21
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dlij1p, I don't know whether ubuntu cd contains ipw2200-firmware, you may do "apt-cache search ipw2200"02:21
me2winKr4t05: what do you mean?02:21
crimsunKr4t05: there's no straight equivalent; use KDE System Settings02:21
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kejupbasbryan- good, perhaps we can find a good explaination somewhere on the wiki or in the forums and submit our suggestion to the developers.02:22
crimsunj1p: Ubuntu includes firmware for ipw*02:22
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mahaffeyhey can anyone help me, i'm pretty new to linux02:22
soundrayj1p, there is a driver for that chipset, but it requires at least a 2.6.13 kernel.02:22
dejx ah02:22
_jasonmahaffey: just ask, if someone knows they will try :)02:22
dejxmahaffey, just ask a quiestion02:22
dyrnemahaffey: state you question if one of us can help we will02:22
dlicrimsun, that's great, I hope they will do hsfmodem too :(02:22
soundraydli: I doubt it. hsfmodem is closed afaik.02:22
reds`Kr4t05: I'm still having some trouble02:22
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j1psoundray, It had not worked on my previous kernel, 2.6.15, and it isnt working on my 2.6.12 now02:22
brennerkejup: *nod* i think you hit the nail on the head.02:23
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dlisoundray, a firmware is also closed :(02:23
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brennerdstryr: what are you trying to do?02:23
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drakonanHey everyone, i've got a situation where when i leave the pc and come back after a while my display is corrupt, is there something i can do about that?02:23
drakonanmaybe a shortcut key to refresh? this is the logon screen02:23
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dlisoundray, just consider, if the user has to download the network driver (modem, or nic), how stupid is this?02:24
PuMpErNiCkLedrakonan: If you've got no applications running, it might be safe to do ctrl+alt+backspace to reload the xserver.02:24
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bimberidrakonan: does doing ctrl-alt-F1 then ctrl-alt-F7 help?02:24
PuMpErNiCkLedrakonan: That's a bit of a hack, though.02:24
soundraydrakonan: this shouldn't happen of course, but try Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to restart X.02:24
majdis there a way to navigate my windows partition in ubuntu?02:24
Keyframeif I wan't to apt-get something and it needs some dependencies.. is there a way to tell apt-get to get those dependecies also? thanks for your patience :>02:24
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_jasonKeyframe: it always does taht by default02:24
kejupbrenner, maybe we can whip something up and submit it tonight? I really don't know enough about it to write anything myself. So I'm going to see what I can find on the forums/wiki. If any of you would like to look with me I'd appreciate it (maybe we can temporarily make a channel to organize ourselves).\02:24
dlimajd, just mount it02:25
echostormbah... anything like daemon tools that will run in gnome? I found something for KDE but im trying to learn one frontend at a time02:25
soundraydli: tell Intel, or whoever holds the rights to the modem firm-/software.02:25
Keyframehmmm02:25
kejupbasbryan- read my message to brenner02:25
PuMpErNiCkLedrakonan: Better to find out why it's getting messed... could be a driver issue (most likely if you have an ati card), or it could be messed horizsync/vertrefresh settings in xorg.conf (or some other messed up setting there.)02:25
drakonanmight there be some way to fix it?  maybe it's going in to some suspent mode or something?02:25
reds`bah02:25
echostormyes... bah!02:25
reds`I'm getting so frustrated :(02:25
dyrnemajd: example: sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda102:25
drakonanctrl+alt+backspace fixes it02:26
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_jasonoh a command02:26
dlisoundray, I just mean, if there are available firmware or binary drivers, just include them in the installation disk02:26
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crouchingMonkeyhow do i find and fix a broken package on my system?02:26
CarlFKsoundray: some of those things have distribution licence issues02:26
dlicrouchingMonkey, apt-get -f install02:26
echostormi have a bin/cue i want to mount and this is definently an issue i need to figure out02:27
soundrayCarlFK: don't tell me, I know about these things. Tell dli.02:27
crimsunechostorm: use bchunk to convert it to an iso, then mount the iso via loopback02:27
dliCarlFK, hsfmodem has no such restrict, gentoo has the hsfmodem package02:27
crouchingMonkeyty dli02:27
Wammy|echostorm, here sec, i know what you need02:27
Wammy|echostorm, google for cdemu02:28
majddyrne, mount: mount point /mnt/hda1 does not exist02:28
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Bubbenhow do I update the kernel to the latest .. it is only to download the upgrade packages?02:28
dlicrouchingMonkey, or, dpkg --configure -a02:28
majdis there an idiot proof tutorial on this?02:28
Wammy|its like daemontools or w/e to mount bin/cue02:28
Wammy|kernel driver.02:28
echostormahh thanx :) crimson, yeah i researched that method but converting everything i need to use iseems an unnecasary step.02:28
dlimajd, I thought ubunt could auto mont windows partitions for you02:29
dstryrhttp://pastebin.com/58123102:29
Keyframewhat's the name of partition utilty that starts up when installing hoary? damn02:29
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dstryrwhat's the prob?02:29
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themachinehow can I check if I properly installed my nvidia drivers?02:29
majd:-O it worked :) i followed http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_manually_update_Ubuntu02:29
dyrnemajd: you will have to type sudo fdisk -l it will list your partions one should be type ntfs. the hda1 was just an example02:29
Wammy|themachine, if you saw the nvidia logo when x started02:29
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soundraydli, if gentoo distributes hsfmodem, it doesn't necessarily follow that ubuntu can, too.02:29
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themachineyea I saw it, thanks02:29
majddyrne, i did: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=022202:29
majdfirst i created /media/windows02:30
bimberiKeyframe: might be 'partman' ?02:30
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mikebotanyone know why mouse3 sometimes opens weird links when i'm trying to scroll?02:30
crimsundli: neither Debian nor Ubuntu package the hsfmodem drivers. They are decidedly non-free.02:30
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soundraycrimsun: so are ATI and NVidia drivers...02:31
dlicrimsun, debian stays close to free, but I thought ubuntu would be more user friendly02:31
crimsunsoundray: ATI and Nvidia provide redistribution allowances in their licenses.02:31
echostormWammy: thats exactly what i needed thanx02:31
crimsunLinuxant does not provide any such allowance.02:31
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Keyframehmmm can't remember my partition config.. I did fdisk -l.. I know I have one for boot, one for home, one for usr, swap, I think one is for var also - is that ok?02:32
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soundraydli, do hsfmodem copyright holders explicitly allow redistribution?02:32
drakonanthe corruption is occurring on a via vt8366/a/7 apollo onboard video card02:32
brennerkejup: i'm not much of a lawyer either, so i doubt i'd be of much use.  but i'm all for the concept of the idea of a click-through disclaimer/help-system on first install.  unfortunately, i don't think dapper will include something like that, so i guess we'll have to make do with a wiki page on the topic.02:32
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dlisoundray, I know in gentoo, there's no download restriction, and it downloads from a gentoo mirror02:33
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babobimberi: cheers02:33
bimberibabo: yw :)02:33
crimsundli: keep in mind both Debian and Ubuntu offer slmodem package variants02:34
dang`r`usI get a silly error message when trying to modprobe fglrx: *ERROR* Unable to the open some already present DRM kernel module!02:34
dang`r`uswhat can I do?02:34
gnomefreakis direct rendering a sure fire way to tell if 3d is working?02:34
soundraydli: that doesn't answer the question. I don't mean that you have to look it up, but the argument is moot until you know exactly what the redistribution policy is.02:34
brennerkejup: anyway, i'm off.   good luck.02:34
dlisoundray, I checked the license, it's okay to redistribute the free version02:34
dlisoundray, Redistribution. Redistribution of this software is only permitted for exact copies (without modification) of versions explicitly marked and officially released by Linuxant with the word "free" in their name. Redistribution or disclosure of other versions, derivatives or license key information is expressly prohibited without explicit written approval signed by an authorized Linuxant officer.02:34
gnomefreakthats in the gpl02:35
dlicrimsun, would slmodem drivers an hsf?02:35
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gnomefreakiirc02:35
KrillancelloFor some reason, Ubuntu likes to display the console larger than my laptop's monitor can display.02:36
KrillancelloVertically, that is.02:36
soundraydli: excellent. You could file a wishlist bug against the linux-restricted-modules package then.02:36
Jae686Krillancello, press ctrl + -02:36
KrillancelloJae686: I'm not running a GUI. I did a server install and have yet to install any packages.02:37
Jae686oh02:37
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Keyframeis it possible to have partitions somewhat like this: one where ubuntu is, one where programs are, one where /home user files are, one for var and one for swap? So that if I wish to install another distribution (ubuntu or something else) programs and user files would be unaffacted? is this a good idea? any suggestions? I have 40GB hard drive on my laptop.. about to install breezy02:38
AngryElfhas anyone had any success with the Apple Airport drivers that are out?02:38
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Jambonyo, I just did an update on dapper, and now my resolution is stuck at 640x480 and 60hz and it won't change02:38
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gnomefreakubotu tell Jambon about fixres02:38
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wastrelKeyframe:  usually /home   can be on a separate partition, but programs are tied too closely to the rest of the OS to be split out & shared02:39
gnomefreakJambon: read that see if it fixes it and btw its in testing so please dont be alarmed when it breaks02:39
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wastrelKeyframe:  you can share swap also02:39
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joeljkpi'm looking for a way to tell alsa to set /dev/dsp to my 2nd sound card02:39
joeljkpanyone know how?02:39
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jrsimsanyone having trouble installing cpan?02:39
cedriczghi everybody02:40
Jambongnomefreak: after all the distros i've been through in the last few weeks not much could alarm me02:40
Keyframewastrel: so what do you suggest, how should I partition my hard drive if I want to upgrade to dapper later or try out some other distro?02:40
Englacanllaith: welcome to ubuntu then. Which distro did you come from?02:40
cedriczgI want to run an app from an icon on my panel02:40
gnomefreakJambon: good02:40
KrillancelloThere are 25 lines which display on the monitor, but the console displays 30 lines.02:40
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KrillancelloAnyone know of a way to fix this?02:40
cedriczgBut how to execute two commands at the same time02:40
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canllaithEngla: slackware02:40
SGershon:( Nothing yet.02:40
Krillancellocedriczg: Try <command1> && <command2>02:40
cedriczgMy case: I want to execute like export LANGUAGE=en; eboard02:41
cedriczgoh02:41
dlijoeljkp, you can do that, but I prefer to remove those dummy or modem cards before the real one02:41
gnomefreakcedriczg: right click panel add custom launcher and fill in the blanks but make sure what you put in the command line part is the command to launch it from term02:41
canllaithEngla: I still run slackware on my desktop, but wanted to try a debian on my laptop for the convenience of apt-getting any apps I might want rather than compiling them :)02:41
SGershonI need help setting my GRUB. Any volunteer?02:41
ithiel_soundray: still no luck, can I just point minicom to my phone's /dev file and get it to work?02:41
dliSGershon, state your problem02:41
joeljkpdli: what do you mean?02:41
cedriczggnomefreak, between commands I have to pu && ?02:41
Englacanllaith: I hope you like apt-get02:41
KrillancelloCan anyone help me fix my console?02:41
canllaithI often need to install lots of strange very new applications for my work and it was getting a little difficult to compile some of them02:41
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gnomefreakcedriczg: what are you trying to run from launcher?02:41
Englacanllaith: I certainly like it, but I've never used anything else. Even on osx I used apt-get02:42
canllaithEngla: frankly, right now I hate everything about it - but I hate every operating system, I'm very fair and unbiased about that.02:42
Englahehe02:42
ithiel_which usb device is Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04e8:6640 ?02:42
dstryrhttp://pastebin.com/58123102:42
dstryrwhat's the prob?02:42
cedriczggnomefreak, I want to set a variable and the launch the prog eboard02:42
Englaand that's why you like slackware, because you can't hate yourself? ;-)02:42
Rob_DudeI've never used OSX but I think it sounds pretty cool02:42
reds`ok, so I put all the correct info into the wireless configuration window, and it takes a few moments to activate, and once it does I'm still not online02:42
EnglaRob_Dude: osx is pretty cool. But so is ubuntu02:42
canllaithI have an emac, and my b/f has an iBook. We both hate OSX :)02:42
wastrelKeyframe:  maybe 10-15 gb for /home (depending on how much video/music you need to keep there)  5-7 for 2 different distros, a couple hundred MB for swap and you should be OK :] 02:42
robbah02:42
cedriczggnomefreak, In terminal I run export LABGUAGE=en     end then    eboard02:42
KeyframeRob_Dude: It is, but freezes alot02:42
gnomefreakcedriczg: that i dont know normally for multi things like that i make a bash script and run the script as a command for launcher02:43
Englacanllaith: I switched completely just recently. But I really love osx02:43
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Englacanllaith: but I switched completely to ubuntu02:43
Rob_DudeI'm not trying to start a flame or anything; but I'm a bit disappointed with ubuntu.  I'm hoping it's just me being clueless02:43
canllaithEngla: I kinda have a bit of everything as far as operating systems goes02:43
SGershonWhen installing Suse, it overwrote my grub loader on MBR with its own grub loader on MBR (or: the grub loader on MBR now looks at Suse's conf instead of Ubuntu's conf). How can I return it?02:43
cedriczggnomefreak, so how do I make a so simple script?02:43
canllaithbut my laptop I use 90% of the time and that's what I put Ubuntu on02:43
SGershondli, that's it (above).02:43
canllaithWell,  Kubuntu really02:43
reds`any ideas why I'm still unable to go online?02:43
Englaoh noes02:43
gnomefreakRob_Dude: no offence but most of the time people hate ubuntu is because they have a simple issue and cant fix it02:43
soundrayithiel_: what /dev/ file have you tried?02:44
Englagnomefreak: but that's the thing. I did that for a week, and now I love ubuntu again because I fixed an issue (I had myself to blame)02:44
lakcajRob_Dude, what do you expect it to do?  It's an operating system - it only gets so exciting02:44
gnomefreakcedriczg: read the abs manual in synaptic for basics02:44
dliSGershon, boot ubuntu (you can do that manually in grub), and mount /boot, and vi /boot/grub/grub.conf02:44
cedriczggnomefreak, ok thanx02:44
Rob_Dudegnomefreak:  Nah, that makes a lot of sense.  I think part of it too is that you get used to whatever you are used to and any feature that is missing seems like a big deal02:44
EnglaRob_Dude: what did you expect, and what do you want?02:44
EnglaRob_Dude: tell us what you want to do with it02:44
dliSGershon, add your ubuntu entry02:44
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gnomefreakEngla: most peopel do because they expect it to be like windows02:44
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Keyframewastrel: 8 for ubuntu and programs, 1 for swap, 1 for var and 30 for /home.. does that sound ok?02:44
KratosIck02:45
Kratoslag02:45
baboHi, I'm accessing a php file over ftp ... I right click the file properties and set the opening application to bluefish. However when I click on the file, it still opens with gedit. I don't want to edit php in gedit ... what should I do ?02:45
Kratoswtf....02:45
Rob_DudeEven though plenty of other features are included that you didn't have before - but you don't even know what they are ;P02:45
SGershondli, I can load ubuntu without problems.02:45
robw00t for crappy highlighting!02:45
wastrelKeyframe:  i thought you said you wanted to have a 2nd OS on there?  but yes that would be fine... my / is about 4GB currently :] 02:45
dliKeyframe, I want 1 /boot of 100MB on jfs, and all other goes to /02:45
Rob_DudeEngla:  Honestly, I've heard, many times, that Linux is no longer user-unfriendly and that the install/setup is just as easy as Windows.02:45
drakonanhey, can ubuntu act like a windows DC?02:45
KrillancelloCan anyone help me fix my console?02:45
gnomefreakok i need a sure fire way to test 3d accel how would i do this my fps are 2000 and yes to direct rendering would like to test now02:45
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Rob_DudeAnd, don't get me wrong - it has come a long way, and it's very impressive in it's own right02:45
SGershonI just want to replace Suse's grub with Ubuntu's.02:45
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EnglaRob_Dude: there is some truth in that. yes, I agree02:46
dliKrillancello, are you using framebuffer?02:46
Keyframedli: what do you mean? you have only two parts?02:46
ericmoritz\0if I have a dynamically linked binary, is there any tricks to turn it into a static one?02:46
Krillancellodli: Not sure, I just finished the Ubuntu server install.02:46
Keyframewastrel: on second thought maybe var should be bigger for apache and mysql...02:46
dliSGershon, in ubuntu, try, to mv /boot/grub/grub.conf /root/grub.conf.suse, and run "update-grub"02:46
Keyframeah damnit :)02:46
soundraySGershon: run sudo grub-install /dev/hda (if /dev/hda is the drive that you boot from).02:46
Rob_DudeBut, for example; countless times I've been told about how cool OpenOffice is and how it works as good, if not better than Office.  And, I agree that OpenOffice is awesome; but I was expecting it to be able to open .xls files (and it does...but it doesn't open *my* .xls files, lol.  I'm a nerd and I love charts, so I've got about 30 of em)02:46
baboCan anyone help me on my file opening problem  ?02:46
KrillancelloIt probably is using the framebuffer, but I don't know for sure.02:46
Rob_Dudeand nearly all of them crash OpenOffice - even if I disable macros02:47
dliKeyframe, yes, because it's a laptop, I don't even use swap02:47
Rob_DudeYeah, it is all little things; but I'm hoping in time I'll fix them02:47
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Keyframedli: and you don't have problems?02:47
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wastrelKeyframe:  i dunno - i just run a desktop system.  my /var is about 250 MB02:47
dliKrillancello, try to check what's in grub command line, disable any option except, root=02:48
gnomefreakthe base or processor should open the .xls files02:48
soundrayRob_Dude: you may have more luck with xls files in gnumeric.02:48
_trickis openldap supposed to work on ubuntu02:48
EnglaRob_Dude: I understand that the OOo issue is no fun.. there is not really an alternative, so OOo has to work! it's not a small thing either02:48
Rob_DudeOr, if I just started from scratch all my .xls files would be created and work great in OpenOffice - and not work in Windows - so really it's not a problem with 'Linux' or 'Ubuntu'02:48
dliKeyframe, of course02:48
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_trickI've tride several times, and I keep on getting db errors02:48
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dliKeyframe, but, you should have swap for a desktop02:48
AngryElfhow do I make gnome, or gaim, whichever it would be.....remember the position and size of the main gaim window whenever it loads?02:48
_trickdb4.2_recover not found02:48
BratscheHello everyone.02:48
gnomefreakRob_Dude: check with synaptic if those dont open it there is an add-on for it im sure02:48
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Belboz99Hey, what is the directory bit?  And how do I enable it?02:49
Keyframedli: I ask for a laptop.. what should I configure partitions too.. it's a system for php/mysql and c++ dev.. I'm not smart about it :)02:49
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IdleOne!repos02:49
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource02:49
gnomefreakdirectory bit?????02:49
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dliKeyframe, if you have 1GB+ ram, you can safely disable swap02:50
gnomefreaka directory is where folders are stored02:50
Rob_DudeYeah - this weekend I've got a 'ToDo' list to learn/figure out/configure correctly whatever I need to fix issues like that.02:50
dooglusBelboz99: do you mean the 'sticky bit'?02:50
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Krillancellodli: The only kernel options grub had were ro, quiet and splash. I removed splash and am rebooting now.02:50
Keyframedli: I'll leave it on.. it has 512 megs.. I'll make a swap partition of 1GB so I can rest :)02:50
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dliKeyframe, it's for developpment, I would go with a 100MB /boot, and the rest /02:50
BratscheI have a quick question: A live CD should boot right from a restart, correct?02:51
Rob_DudeGetting my mp3 player to work is gonna be the hardest I think :)  But time will tell...02:51
wastrelRob_Dude:  try gnumeric for you .xls files maybe02:51
wastrel(.xls is excel right?)02:51
SGershonsoundray, I don't have a /dev/hda, but my ubuntu is at /dev/sda502:51
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javioloany ftp with gui ?02:51
PuMpErNiCkLeBratsche: If you have the cd set to boot before the HDD in the BIOS, then yes.02:51
Belboz99dooglus, no I mean the directory bit02:51
Rob_DudeYeah .xls is excel - and ty, I'll give it a shot02:51
javioloany ftp client with gui ?02:51
Keyframedli: And what if I wanted to install Dapper afterwards?02:51
dliKeyframe, no problem with a small swap02:51
EnglaBratsche: yes, if I understand that right. You just have to make your bios boot from the cd02:51
SGershonsoundray, sda and hda stand for the same meaning?02:51
baboI can't seem to edit any of my ftp file on my local computer. All I get is permissions cannot be determined. Also they won't open in bluefish by default, only in gedit ?? help ??02:51
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BratschePuMpErNiCkLe: So, I have to mess around in the bios first?02:51
soundraySGershon: run sudo grub-install /dev/sda then02:51
khafraquicktime for firefox?02:51
dooglusBelboz99: where did you hear of this 'directory bit'?02:51
Belboz99dooglus: I was changing ownership of a directory and somehow the directory turned into a file02:51
Belboz99I need it changed back into a directory02:52
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soundraySGershon: /dev/hda is used for IDE and most SATA devices. /dev/sda is used for SCSI and some SATA disks.02:52
AmaranthBelboz99: That's not really possible.02:52
PuMpErNiCkLeBratsche: Just to check the boot order... you may have to set it to check teh CD before teh harddrive, but that's it.02:52
khafraI installed vlc, but it doesn't seem to work02:52
EnglaBelboz99: that sounds very wrong02:52
dliKeyframe, I'm not a developper :( for me, vim, gcc, gdb, valgrind, ddd, ...02:52
PuMpErNiCkLes/teh/the/g02:52
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dooglusBelboz99: how were you changing owners?02:52
AmaranthBelboz99: That's file system corruption, nothing you can fix.02:52
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Rob_DudeOn the other hand...I *love* having multiple desktops, the software repositories and tabbed browsing.  And VMware,.  Those are all awesome :P  And the multiple terminals02:52
gnomefreakvalgrid is a browser no?02:52
dliKeyframe, or you want xemacs, and some cvs, which I don't know anything about02:53
babono-one can help ??02:53
Belboz99dooglus, I can't dig up the exact command I used, but I was using chown dan /fold02:53
gnomefreakvalgrind*02:53
BratschePuMpErNiCkLe: Ok, well thanks. I think I'm fast becoming a Ubuntu convert, at least, if I can get it to work. ;)02:53
SGershonOk.02:53
Amaranthvalgrind is a development tool02:53
SGershonI'll try it now.02:53
dlignomefreak, no, valgrind is a memory debugger02:53
Belboz99it's possible I screwed up and used chmod instead02:53
KrillancelloNow... on to my main concern...02:53
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SGershonsoundray, dli, _jason, see you after reboot.02:53
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dooglusBelboz99: chown should never make a directory turn into a file.  it does sound like your filesystem is screwed up like Amaranth said.02:53
gnomefreakin repos by chance? im always looking for cooler devel tools02:53
Belboz99but trust me, this file was a directory02:53
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dooglusBelboz99: even if you "chmod" instead of "chown", there's no bit which determines whether it's a file or a directory...02:54
Keyframedli: nah, actually I really don't know what I wan't with partitions02:54
dliKrillancello, why using framebuffer, it's slower :( and causing trouble for n00bs02:54
vookwhat process is it at boot that mounts the tmpfs filesystems (/dev, /dev/pts, /dev/shm, & /lib/modules/$kernelver/volatile), and /sys?02:54
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dooglusBelboz99: I trust you.  But trust me, there's no way to "chmod" a directory to turn it into a file.02:54
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Keyframedli: I will run php/mysql and gcc.. I have 40GB's of hard drive..and want to be safe if I wan't to switch to dapper later02:54
Belboz99dooglus, my Linux professor said there was a bit that set it to directory02:54
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hyphenatedBelboz99: yes, but it's not something you can change02:54
dliKeyframe, In past, I use /boot, /usr, /home, /02:54
Belboz99he never told us which bit it was though02:54
gnomefreakit looks kdeish :(02:54
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_trickah, I guess the slapd package is missing a dep02:55
dooglusBelboz99: it's not a bit which is accessible with chmod02:55
ithiel_soundray, haven't tried any dev file because I don't know what Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04e8:6640 is02:55
_trickdb4.2_utils02:55
EnglaBelboz99: how do  you see that it's a file?02:55
Keyframedli: how about var?02:55
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dliKeyframe, nowadays, I don't reinstall without a backup, I go with /boot /02:55
Belboz99okay, so if my file system is screwed, how do I fix that?02:55
Jamboni just ran easyubuntu on dapper, and got this error message in the terminal when i ran it: IOError: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/icons/default.xpm'02:55
Belboz99-rw-r--r--    1 root root     62 2005-12-03 00:42 fold02:55
dliKeyframe, for servers only, security concerns, not for your own desktop02:55
soundrayvook, run a 'grep tmpfs /etc/init.d/*' to get an impression how things play together.02:55
Belboz99that file was a directory02:55
hyphenatedBelboz99: fsck02:55
crouchingMonkeyis there a limewire for linux ?02:55
Jambondid the update fail or just the firefox icon?02:55
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JamboncrouchingMonkey:  yes02:56
soundrayithiel_: you don't need to know. Try /dev/ttyUSB002:56
Belboz99I can still see it and browse the files in it over the network02:56
dliKeyframe, indeed, it's sensiless for me to have a /var for desktop02:56
khafraI'm using AMD64 Ubuntu and linux32 for 32 bit programs, like firefox and its plugins.  If I want to install vlc to the 32 bit firefox, not the 64 bit, how do I make the debian package do that?02:56
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javioloany ftp client with gui ?02:56
dooglusBelboz99: there are 12 bits which chmod can affect.  3 reads, 3 writes, 3 executes, setuid, setgid and sticky.02:56
Unitycan someone quickly explain why there k and k^5 have the same unit's digit?02:56
stperecrouchingMonkey, of course02:56
Keyframedli.. I see.. because I always run apache in same config as my server with var/html.. heh I'll change that then02:56
Kr4t05gah02:56
Unityoops wrong window02:56
Belboz99and in fact, some software is running from it right now02:56
gnomefreakalot of things dont work in dapper02:56
gnomefreakit is getting better tho :)02:56
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soundraygnomefreak: like Openoffice :(02:56
dliKeyframe, apache doesn't care /var is a dir or partition02:56
gnomefreakmy OOO works great02:57
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dooglusBelboz99: can I suggest you back it up (into a tar archive or similar) as soon as possible?02:57
dooglusBelboz99: it's quite possible that as soon as the software which is using it stops using it, the contents will become unavailable.02:57
gnomefreaksoundray: did you install the OOo updates this afternoon that were being held back?02:57
Keyframeok, I'll make boot partition, swap and / .. just to be safe for swap ;) How much should boot be?02:57
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D[a] Yo.02:57
soundraygnomefreak: yes. But it may be different, because I'm on amd6402:58
wastreljaviolo:  gftp02:58
D[a] I have the drivers for win32 on my ubuntu box cuz it says that it doesnt support linux on their site, but the linux site says it does take it.02:58
Belboz99hyphenated: , how do I run fsck with the drive unmounted?02:58
dliKeyframe, 100 MB is more than enough02:58
D[a] hrm..02:58
D[a] It's a D-link G510 atherois chipset02:58
cedriczggnomefreak, well I finally did the script and it worked marvelously. Thank you v m02:58
gnomefreaksoundray: yeah ive heard that with 64bit02:58
gnomefreakyw ced02:58
Keyframedli: thanks dude :)02:58
hyphenatedBelboz99: fsck /partition02:58
javiolowastrel thanks!02:58
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gnomefreakbrb02:58
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soundraygnomefreak: enjoy your smoke02:58
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Wammy|hyphenated, as far as i remeber your not supposed to fsck a mounted partition02:59
dliKeyframe, I like jfs on /boot, however, standard is ext202:59
Belboz99hyphenated: , I mean, the entire partition is the one that root is in02:59
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D[a] hrm02:59
D[a] Uh.02:59
D[a] dli or soundray02:59
Keyframedli: any particular reason?02:59
D[a] I have the drivers for win32 on my ubuntu box cuz it says that it doesnt support linux on their site, but the linux site says it does take it. | It's a D-link G510 atherois chipset | What do I do with the .sys and the .inf or whatever? I remember seeing on forums somewhere to put it somewhere, but I have no clue where.......02:59
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Belboz99hyphenated:  do I have to reboot into a restore mode or something?02:59
ithiel_soundray: device doesn't exist. try to remember that the samsung doesn't explicitly identify itself as a modem, I just tell it to do so02:59
hyphenatedWammy|: indeed, it's not a good idea :-)02:59
hyphenatedBelboz99: rescue mode, yeah02:59
hyphenatedor use a live cd02:59
dliKeyframe, no such boring fsck.ext2 on booting02:59
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Belboz99oops, I meant rescue03:00
Keyframehehe03:00
ithiel_soundray, no USB devices (seemingly) in /dev, and certainly no ttyUSB0. I'll doublecheck GUI configs, but otherwise not getting much ---> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04e8:6640 ????03:00
Wammy|hey so does anyone want to take my offer for $30 + free webhosting/gameserver to get my sound card working?03:00
D[a] lmao03:00
soundrayithiel_: well it was worth trying. It may be that your phone just isn't supported, though.03:00
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PuMpErNiCkLelol Wammy|03:00
sbalneavD[a] : google for ndiswrapper + ubuntu03:00
dliKeyframe, jfs is supported by grub, but you will need jfs support in kernel too, go ext2, if you are not sure about it03:00
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gnomefreaki always do :)03:00
D[a] sbalneav03:00
Wammy|Ive been dealing with this for the past 48 hours, i only slept like 5 hours today03:00
D[a] i tried03:00
D[a] apt-get install ndiswrapper-tools03:01
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ithiel_soundray: you do realize that my attempted use of this phone nears the bizarre, and that default support is near nil, right?03:01
Keyframedli: yeah I'm not - I'll go all the way with ext2 I guess03:01
D[a] but it said something aobut being too outdated and needing to get th newest version03:01
D[a] I HAVE NO CLUE.03:01
sbalneavD[a] : Well, that was self evident.03:01
D[a] Obviously.03:01
gnomefreakif i can view a 3d screensaver does that mean my 3d works?03:01
crouchingMonkeyany instructions out there on how to install limewire on ubuntu ?03:01
D[a] sbalneav do you happen to hnave htat link on the forums?03:01
Jambondoes easy ubuntu work with dapper?03:01
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D[a] I have the .inf and .sys it says it needed03:01
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sbalneavD[a] : does this machine have a WIRED connection in it?03:02
soundrayithiel_: are you getting angry now? Take it out on Samsung for not supporting Linux, please.03:02
gnomefreakubotu tell crouchingMonkey about limewire03:02
sbalneavLike an ethernet interface?03:02
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gnomefreakcrouchingMonkey: in your pm :)03:02
Celestehi03:02
D[a] sbalneav03:02
D[a] no03:02
Celestewhat Xorg version does ubuntu use, please?03:02
D[a] Wireless.03:02
D[a] Only way it can be done.03:02
gnomefreakJambon: not sure dapper is in testing stages03:02
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gnomefreakCeleste: breezy uses 6.803:02
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Celestethank you gnomefreak03:03
gnomefreak^^^latest stable release03:03
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Jambonanyone here used xgl on a i810?03:03
Celestecool ... thank you03:03
gnomefreakyw03:03
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sbalneavD[a] : Baloney.  What, you can't PUT an ethernet card in it TEMPORARILY so you can update the ndiswrapper-tools?03:03
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samisad0rkhey im having probs gettin ubuntu live to run on my computer, can anyone help?03:03
sbalneavYou can't BORROW a usb ethernet adapter somewhere?03:03
gabrielhi...?03:04
soundraysamisad0rk: describe the problem.03:04
theshibbolethhow do I find out what sound card I'm using?03:04
wastrelhi gabriel03:04
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D[a] sbalneav03:04
D[a] no03:04
Wammy|no one to take my offer?03:04
D[a] i can't.03:04
gnomefreaktheshibboleth: lspci03:04
ithiel_soundray: sigh, thx anyways.03:04
D[a] only way to do is wirelessly.03:04
Kr4t05!twinview03:04
ubotuKr4t05: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:04
Kr4t05...03:04
sbalneavD[a] : And why would that be?03:04
ithiel_soundray: samsung doesn't support windows either, or mac for that matter03:04
D[a] sbalneav03:04
Kr4t05that needs to be in the bot.03:04
D[a] i can't exactly wire a cable03:04
Kr4t05twinview needs to be in the bot ><03:05
samisad0rkwhen it goes to boot it seems like its going then gets stuck on this message "kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!03:05
D[a] through a wall03:05
Kr4t05dammit.03:05
D[a] with a solid ceiling03:05
D[a] etc.03:05
wastrel!enter03:05
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!03:05
sbalneavHow about moving the machine for a bit?03:05
soundrayithiel_: *hrm* motorola03:05
theshibbolethgnomefreak:thanks03:05
vookanyone have an idea what would cause none of the tmpfs filesystems to mount (I went from breezy to dapper and back to breezy (I know, bad idea, but everything works except the tmpfs filesystems, and I've had this happen before))03:05
ithiel_soundray: I don't think you properly comprehend what it is I am doing with my phone, it is a completely unsupported feature/ability. It took 2 hours just to get working on Windows, if that gives you any sense of scale03:05
D[a] sbalneav03:05
D[a] I can't.03:05
D[a] It's fixed in place.03:05
gnomefreaktheshibboleth: yw03:05
D[a] Can't you just help me get it done wirelessly, pete's sake.03:05
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wastrel!tell D[a]  about enter03:05
soundrayithiel_: this is the third time you are alluding to my limited comprehension. Thank you, our discussion is over.03:05
Rob_DudeI'm a big fan of the 'enter pause.  You know ya just sorta03:05
ithiel_soundray: my phone is fine. as for motorola, they weren't an option where I got my wireless plan at. otherwise I would've chosen one. I have no qualms with the terms of my contract, it's a good plan with tons of free minutes03:05
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sbalneavHow can I help you get it done wirelessly when we can't get the bit installed?03:06
Rob_DudeHit enter, and it's like a SUPER comma :)03:06
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sbalneavYou need to update your ndiswrapper-tools.03:06
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ithiel_my wireless still doesn't bloody work03:06
ithiel_gah.03:06
theshibbolethI need help getting sound to work with a nvidia audio card in 3d games03:06
gnomefreakithiel_: sending the signal through your phone or a wireless card ?03:07
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gnomefreaki didnt know nvidia made sound cards03:07
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D[a] sbalneav03:07
D[a] requires internet eh?03:07
D[a] what if i download madwifi03:07
D[a] willl that help?03:07
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shivis it possible to move the cursor to default button as in windows mouse controls?03:08
trincamckeei there03:08
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sbalneavand how are you going to download it onto the box when you just told me there was no way to get ndiswrappers-tools updated?03:08
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ithiel_gnomefreak I've given up on my phone for the time being, wireless still isn't working03:08
D[a] sbalneav03:08
D[a] through a CD03:08
gnomefreakwireless in ubuntu?03:09
D[a] eayea03:09
D[a] yea03:09
progrockwhats the command to remove a folder and all its contents? (in the terminal)03:09
D[a] rm -rf03:09
gnomefreakrm03:09
D[a] rm -rf directory /file03:09
sbalneavD[a] : then why not download the ndiswrapper-tools, and put THAT on a cd?03:09
NChief^^I have wirekess in ubuntu :)03:09
D[a] sbalneav true.03:09
trincamckeedoes anyone knows a app like checkinstall, but doesnt install the package? i just want to build the package...03:09
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progrockthankyou03:09
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sbalneavJeeepers.03:09
D[a] ndiswrapper-1.10.tar.gz03:10
D[a] that'd probably work03:10
D[a] eh?03:10
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gnomefreaktrincamckee: there maybe parameters that will do that i dont know ive always used checkinstall to install the package03:10
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sbalneavYou'll probably want to get the .deb from the repository.03:10
sbalneavDoes the WIRED machine you're on have ubuntu on it now?03:10
trincamckeethat would be nice03:11
trincamckeei dont know any flags03:11
D[a] sbalneav03:11
D[a] no pc's in my house are wired03:11
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gnomefreakhttp://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/index.php03:11
CelestePlease tell me how can I enable transparenxy in Xorg for Ubuntu?03:11
gnomefreaktrincamckee: also man checkinstall is helpful03:11
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gnomefreak^^^try that site03:11
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gnomefreakCeleste: terminal?03:12
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sbalneavD[a] : this is in your house, and you're telling me you can't move the box next to the wireless router to plug it in?03:12
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gnomefreakor all windows?03:12
trincamckeeok gnomefreak tanks for the tip03:12
frank__can somebody please let me know how to activate universal03:12
Celestegnomefreak, no for the gDesklets StarterBar03:12
wastrel!tell frank__ about universe03:12
overrideri am printing to a network printer using cups it seems, doesnt it need a printcap file in /etc/ ? or is that file not required?03:12
Celestegnomefreak, I heard I must find composit in the Xorg.conf  but it is not in it03:12
ithiel_gnomefreak:  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s Tx-Power=off RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off03:12
gnomefreakCeleste: you got me there i cant even get my applets to work right :(03:12
basbryanubotu: tell frank__ about universe03:12
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gnomefreakty basbryan03:13
ithiel_that's the displayed settings from iwconfig, and I cannot seem to set my settings, what's going on?03:13
soundrayoverrider: cups does it without one of those03:13
WebLOCHHey guys, what do you do when a usb device wont unmount ?03:13
soundrayWebLOCH: wait, it's probably still writing data.03:13
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WebLOCHsoundray, its been ages and i never started writing data to it03:13
gnomefreakubotu tell ithiel_ about -wireless03:14
Josh43hey, anyone here have a psp that they do homebrew stuff with?03:14
perryweblock: pull the plug :p03:14
soundrayWebLOCH: perhaps it's still the pwd on some terminal you have open?03:14
WebLOCHperry, i did03:14
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gnomefreakubotu tell ithiel_ about wireless03:14
perryWebLOCH: what type of device?03:14
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WebLOCHsoundray, nope closed everything first, and its def not open now03:14
ithiel_gnomefreak: don't waste my time with automated tripe. I'm a regular user here (adriyel), and I've exhausted all conventional methods including ubotu, thank you03:14
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WebLOCHperry, its a sd card03:14
perryWebLOCH: i still have windoze on my machine at work because itunes is more reliable than gtkpod :P03:15
gnomefreakalmost like i was supposed to know?03:15
perryWebLOCH: shouldn't be too big an issue :P03:15
Extreme_Unctionsh03:15
WebLOCHperry, i simply chose not to buy a stupid mp3player hoho03:15
perryipods seem to be a bit mpre finicky :P03:15
khafraIf I'm using firefox 32 bit in AMD64 Ubuntu, can I use the AMD64 Mplayer as a plugin?03:15
soundraygnomefreak: what a pita... tg he's gone.03:15
Josh43itheil_; Calm down.. if you've been here so long, you know that 99% of questions are answered with standard rtfm stuff03:15
gnomefreakkhafra: not sure but i doubt it03:15
perryheh...i ride the bus and its better to have an ipod than listen to someone else's inane cell phone conversation :P03:15
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gnomefreakJosh43: hes gone03:15
Extreme_UnctionRejoice! For there are Kubuntu repositories for KDE 3.5.1!03:15
WebLOCHperry, i meant i chose to buy a decent one :P  not some fashion pimp rubbish03:16
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Josh43lol - my syntax is all funny - didn't see it03:16
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gnomefreakExtreme_Unction: yes you can get that from kubuntu.org or .com or whatever the site is03:16
perrymy mom got it for me :P03:16
perrywell, mother in law :P03:16
WebLOCHperry, fair play then haha03:16
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ithielback03:16
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perrybesides, we got lots of windows boxes at work03:16
theshibbolethCould someone help me? The video on 3d games works, but the audio doesn't03:16
khafragnomefreak: Thanks, guess I'll go 32.  Or maybe both--would there be a conflict with two versions of mplayer?03:16
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perryand my bosses get to keep me in free music03:17
progrocki installed gaim 2.0 beta 1 by mistake.. and now when i try to install beta 2 it errors.. i think something with the docs03:17
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gnomefreakkhafra: my personal opion is stick with 32 all the apps run easier on it03:17
Lukemy ipod doesnt automount when i plug it in - what should I do?03:17
gnomefreakprogrock: uninstall beta103:17
khafragnomefreak: Aha, thanks.03:17
gnomefreakLuke: what ipod app are you using?03:17
progrockgnomefreak, yeah.. first thing i did was that03:17
gnomefreakkhafra: yw03:17
Lukegnomefreak: it doesnt even mount03:18
wastreljazzy03:18
soundrayithiel: I'm here to help people. So is gnomefreak, as far as I can tell. Now would you please consider assuming manners that make it easy, rather than difficult, to help?03:18
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gnomefreakprogrock: what type of errors are you gettting?03:18
Jeff1fAnyone know why my ubuntu machine would keep ARPing non stop?03:18
shivwhat is the Program Files folder equivalent in Linux?03:18
progrockgnomefreak, 1 sec.. let me try again so i can get the erros03:18
gnomefreakbtw gaim2.0 is a pita to install on dapper so please tell me your running breezy03:18
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Josh43shiv; /usr/bin, usually03:19
Amaranthshiv: /usr/bin, i guess03:19
wastrelJeff1f:  something else on your network asking it to?03:19
shivthanks03:19
progrockbreezy.. yes.. ive done it before... only reason its erroring is becase i installed beta1 first by mistake03:19
CelesteI restart X03:19
Josh43:P03:19
wastrelJeff1f:  no idea really :] 03:19
KrillancelloOkay... so does anyone know a way to install JUST X and Gnome after doing the Ubuntu server install?03:19
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gnomefreakprogrock: how did you uninstall it? with dpkg or with apt?03:19
burdenCould anyone reccomend a GUI compiler, preferably has syntax highlighting?03:19
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Jeff1fMaybe it's that dang wiflyer router03:20
progrockgnomefreak, dpkg... since i installed it with checkinstall03:20
wastrelburden:  what language?03:20
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burdenC++, sorry forgot to add that part.03:20
gnomefreakburden: the compiler doesnt do syntex highlighting its the ide that does it03:20
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gnomefreakburden: use anjuta03:20
wastreli was going to say anjuta :[03:20
gnomefreakits got all good things :)03:21
gnomefreakand easy to play with03:21
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progrockvim! lol.. screw ajunta, lol03:21
Krillancellowastrel: Teh win goes to the quick of mind.03:21
progrocksteeper learnign curve tho03:21
gnomefreakprogrock: im not sure than dpkg should have gotten rid of it all (did you get rid of the tar by chance and the files that were unpacked?03:21
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gnomefreakvim-gui is nice :)03:22
soundrayKrillancello: gnome-core and xserver-xorg-core should give you a pretty minimal configuration.03:22
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progrockgnomefreak, yeah.. i deleted everything... 1 sec.. almsot up to the point where i get the error... make takes some time for gaim03:22
gnomefreaksorry its gvim03:22
progrockvim-gnome is the package actually03:22
samofthedaybleh im back my net went schizo03:22
gnomefreakprogrock: no its a graphical vim03:22
Krillancellosoundray: Everyone's been saying x-window-system-core; can you tell me the difference between it and xserver-xorg-core?03:23
samofthedayok my prob was with gettin the ubuntu live to boot...03:23
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soundrayKrillancello: have you considered xubuntu-desktop for small footprint?03:23
progrockgnomefreak, i know... the apt-get install is vim-gnome for gvim03:23
basbryansamoftheday: really?03:23
progrock!pastebin03:23
Krillancellosoundray: What is Xubuntu, exactly?03:23
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)03:23
gnomefreak!xubuntu03:23
ubotufrom memory, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu03:24
samofthedayit would seem like it was booting then get stuck on the message "Kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!"03:24
gnomefreakbrb03:24
perryand it will run on an xbox03:24
perryas opposed to ps2buntu03:24
D[a] ewwwwwwwwww03:24
D[a] its hard03:24
soundrayKrillancello: I actually meant x-window-system-core. Compare the packages with 'apt-cache depends ...'03:24
wastrelKrillancello:  dunno - check the package info/depends on  packages.ubuntu.com  mebby03:24
wastrelh8n teh lunix03:25
perryactually, i was wondering03:25
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gleesonddoes anyone know about dirvers for asus motherboards? I'm trying to get my gigbit nic to work properly. for some reasion the way it is now, my routers webpages won't load all the way03:25
perrymy workplace has draconian proxy filtering rules...i can't use synaptic at work03:25
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perryi think its because its trying to check so many archives more or less simultaneously03:25
Josh43perry: ssh tunnel ;P03:25
perryJosh43: how would i do that?03:26
yuan?03:26
gleesondasus!03:26
jrsimsQuery! Does anyone know of any good open-source flow-charting / diagramming tools?03:26
samofthedayanyone have any ideas why its doing that?03:26
gnomefreakits called vim-gtk03:26
KrillancelloI don't want to use Xubuntu if it uses XFCE... I'm not in the mood to learn how to configure a different desktop system the way I like.03:26
perryand if their rules are that draconian, couldn't they block me from tunneling?03:26
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progrockgnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/965203:26
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majdhow do i open a directory with sudo?03:26
sbalneavD[a] : What's hard?03:26
yuanexit03:26
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perrysudo cd /blah/blah03:26
D[a] sbalneav03:26
wastreljrsims:  dia mebby03:26
perryenter password :P03:26
D[a] wireless03:26
D[a] its like 60 steps03:26
D[a] rofl03:26
D[a] anyway, gonna go give it a shot~03:27
wastreljrsims:  for stuff like that i tend to search freshmeat, then check if it's available in apt03:27
Josh43perry: there is always a way.. I have the entire thing locked down, but I portscanned my own machine and found one port: 23.. set the home ssh server to port 23; tunnel all day long :)03:27
majdperry, sudo: cd: command not found03:27
jrsimswastrel: k03:27
wastrelD[a] :  could you stop hitting enter after every 2nd word please03:27
perrymajd: !03:27
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Krillancellosoundray: It seems to me "apt-get depends" will only compare dependencies; I was more interested in the comparison as far as what they provide and/or do.03:27
majdperry, huh?03:27
gnomefreakprogrock: thats the same thing mine did and i worked on it for 2 weeks everyday and still no luck and btw i dont think you can use checkinstall with it03:27
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sbalneavD[a] : That's because wireless manufacturers don't publish any of their flipping specs, so people can't write *REAL* drivers.03:27
perrymajd: that's a first for me...03:28
wastrelperry:  sudo cd doesn't work - cd is a bash builtin03:28
soundrayKrillancello: well, that is what they do: they provide dependencies.03:28
majdmajd@ubuntu:~$ sudo cd /var/www/03:28
majd.that's what i'm using03:28
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samofthedayim having problems booting ubuntu live on my computer03:28
perryi see03:28
sbalneavIf you've got the right wireless card (very few), then everything "just works".03:28
gnomefreakmajd: sudo nautilus03:28
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wastrelmajd:  sudo ls  will show you what's in there - just use the full path. or you can sudo -i  to drop into a root shell03:28
perryor activate root and just su then do it :P03:28
gnomefreakthat will give you sudo privledges with the nautilus gui03:28
soundrayKrillancello: if you enter 'dpkg -L x-window-system-core' you will see that it provides minimal package content.03:28
Krillancellosoundray: I just wanted to find out if they do anything specifically different, which would influence my decision.03:28
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gnomefreakmaybe use gksudo instead of sudo03:29
Kr4t05D[a] : Plainly put: ndiswrapper is your best option.03:29
perryi put the listtle script thingie in from the starter guide03:29
KrillancelloIf they provide the same functionality, then I don't really have a reason to have a preference.03:29
perryi can open as root from nautilus :P~~03:29
progrockgnomefreak,  i dknow i dont have to... its just what the wiki said.03:29
progrockgnomefreak, but i have had it work for me before.. so it has to be somethign beta1 screwed up03:29
Wammy|alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such device03:29
Krillancellosoundray: By the way, dpkg -L doesn't seem to work.03:30
tritiumKrillancello: how are you using it?03:30
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KrillancelloOh, wait. Haha.03:30
gnomefreakprogrock: i had beta 1 on breezy working tried beta2 on daper adn no luck what so ever i never tried beta2 on breezy but i think its the package not your system03:30
KrillancelloIt says the package isn't installed.03:30
KrillancelloSo that's why. >_>;03:30
tritiumdefinitely03:30
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perryhey josh, you still there?03:30
Josh43Yeah03:31
gnomefreaknight all see you in morning03:31
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KrillancelloThere's no point in using dpkg -L to compare the two if I have to install the package before dpkg -L will work.03:31
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samofthedayubuntu live would seem like it was booting then get stuck on the message "Kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!" any help appreciated :D03:31
perryJosh43: would you mind pointing me towards a decent tutorial for setting up ssh so i can do my thing at work?03:31
soundrayKrillancello: these core packages are minimum. You won't be able to run X or gnome properly without them. Hence the appendix -core.03:31
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Madpilot!tell perry about ssh03:31
_JECKEL_hi all03:31
Josh43perry; You have the ubuntu box @ home?03:31
_JECKEL_just a quick question03:31
perryJosh43: or helping me get it setup03:31
perryon it right now03:32
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_JECKEL_whats a good virus scanner?03:32
Krillancellosoundray: My question was whether x-window-system-core or xserver-xorg-core differ in some way that would cause me to have a reason to prefer one over the other.03:32
dotslashrootWhat file do you edit to turn off encryption on a wifi card?03:32
perryaegis03:32
Kr4t05Does someone wanna help me make twinview work?03:32
Josh43perry; Something tells me it's going to be an involved process for you, but I will get you in the right direction03:32
perryJosh43: thanks :)03:32
_JECKEL_are you sure aegis is that good though?03:32
tritiumKr4t05: did you read the docs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/?03:32
perrykrischan: look up a posting made by perryub on linuquestions.org03:32
KrillancelloIf they are similar enough for there to be no need for a personal preference, then I'll probably just pick whichever one's name I prefer. ;P03:32
perrykr4 rather03:33
soundrayKrillancello: and my answer was, you will need them both anyway. So the question doesn't make sense.03:33
Kr4t05tritium: Er... I followed the HOW-TO in the forums.03:33
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Josh43perry, Step 1: Turn on something on your home pc that lets you find out every port someone is hitting; I did it with the router, but that's tricky.. some sort of honeypot would work03:33
tritiumKr4t05: check out the docs, then03:33
Krillancellosoundray: Well, I didn't see that among your responses.03:33
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_JECKEL_we talking about firewalls and stuff?03:33
perrywould nessus do?03:33
Josh43perry, Step 2: Run a port scanner from work on your home machine; let it do all 65k ports03:34
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rupan3anyone know a resource for escape codes (like03:34
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perrythat;s kinda funny :P03:34
_JECKEL_what about just going to shieldsup.com03:34
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Josh43perry, Dunno about nessus.. stopped doing active hacking a few years ago03:34
rupan3oops.. anyway, like \n ... i just don't know their proper name so searching on google isn't yielding very good results03:34
_JECKEL_or.... .net or something03:34
_JECKEL_forgot the exact thing03:34
Josh43_JECKEL_, Trying to work through a work firewall, so need to test between workj and home, not shieldsup and home03:35
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Kr4t05tritium: Oh...03:35
Kr4t05tritium: Gotcha03:35
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_JECKEL_oh lol03:35
Josh43perry, Step 3: Go home, collect the logs - see what came through03:35
Kr4t05blech03:35
_JECKEL_hmmm...03:35
Josh43perry, Step 4: Set up the ssh server on that port, and make sure you set it to allow tunnelling (check the ubuntuforums or wiki)03:36
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_JECKEL_I had a problem with trying to let a friend connect to me so they could play a MUD I was developing03:36
crouchingMonkeyi dont have .avi playback and i installed the codecs, ne ideas why03:36
Josh43perry, Step 5: Use Putty from work to ssh tunnel through your home connection :)03:36
glitch13anyone familiar with an install error where the install hangs at 0% on "installing the 'grub' package"?03:36
shivwhere do u look for the city location codes for weather desklets03:36
D[a] FUCK IT.03:36
shivgot it03:36
shivthanks03:36
perryhrmmmmmmmm03:36
Installer36Shiv Where is it03:36
Josh43fuck what, I wonder?03:37
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Kr4t05rofl03:37
perryjambon...that's kind of a funny nick03:37
perry*OINK*03:37
samofthedayubuntu live would seem like it was booting then hang on the message "Kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!" any help appreciated :D03:37
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_JECKEL_why cant I get aegis into my applications menu?03:37
shivit was just the zip code03:37
dotslashrootfuck a "B" it has 2 holes03:37
Kr4t05I just got a pop-up for Windows registry cleaner. XD03:37
soundrayJosh43: wireless setup I think.03:37
dotslashrootlol03:37
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Jambonperry: yes03:37
shivI thought it was something more complicated03:37
Installer36Thanks03:37
Jambonoink03:37
Installer36Me too03:37
Kr4t05ham...03:37
Kr4t05LMAO03:37
spazzzEvening folks.  I was wondering if anyone could help me with an Ubuntu Screen Issue03:37
Kr4t05french joke...03:37
perryJosh43: thanks, i'll give it a go03:37
Josh43soundray, Ahh.. need patience of confucious for some wireless setups ;)03:37
rupan3anyone know escape codes? like \n ? anyone know the one for backspace? when i write to this file with \n it writes a space to the beginning of the next line.. and the program that the output is for won't read it.03:38
Josh43perry, Hope it works out and you learn a bunch :)03:38
spazzzI need to find a screen frequency and refresh that the card will accept without going haywire03:38
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rupan3spazzz: check the back of the monitor03:38
soundrayJosh43: yeah, or patience until 20 April ;)03:38
perryme too :)03:38
rupan3spazzz:  there's probably a sticker with that info on it03:38
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spazzzrupan3: Well heres the rub.  Im not using a moniter03:38
Jambonanyway, is easyubuntu for dapper, or only for breezy? same question with plf repo: breezy specific or dapper compatible?03:38
rupan3spazzz: using a tv?03:38
Kr4t05Is Dapper going to have TwinView?03:39
perryoscilloscope?03:39
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spazzzrupan3 Yeap... Though an SVIDEO connection.  Im trying to build a MythTV box03:39
perryipod?03:39
rupan3ooo slick03:39
Kr4t05I'm sick of xorg being queer.03:39
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Josh43soundray, I know - can't wait.. esp after booting flight 4.. yikes it's good03:39
rupan3i'd be interested to hear how that turns out, spazzz03:39
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MadpilotJambon, EasyUbuntu is probably still Breezy-only at this point - no idea about the PLF repo03:39
=== Kr4t05 should get Dapper to test.
Kr4t05>>03:40
Kr4t05<<03:40
glitch13so, no one's had the install freeze at the grub install...03:40
Kr4t05Nah.03:40
KrillancelloIf I were to type !<package-name> in here, Ubotu would describe the package, correct?03:40
soundrayKr4t05: Twinview is a feature of Nvidia cards and drivers. Nothing to do with dapper.03:40
_JECKEL_!wine03:40
JambonMadpilot: so no real point in trying to install it to dapper....great. so what repo holds w32codecs and such?03:40
Kr4t05soundray: Oh, yeah.03:40
samisad0rkubuntu live 64 isnt wanting to boot for me03:40
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Kr4t05head*03:40
Kr4t05@.@03:40
_JECKEL_yep03:40
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soundrayJosh43: I couldn't stop myself -- I've dist-upgraded.03:40
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MadpilotJambon, AFAIK the RestrictedFormats stuff still works in Dapper - but try #ubuntu+1, that's the Dapper channel03:41
_JECKEL_hmmm03:41
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Madpilot!tell Jambon about restricted03:41
_JECKEL_a new ubuntu is out?03:41
faroussoundray: how is it going with the upgrade sofar03:41
_JECKEL_the one after breezy badger?03:41
Josh43soundray, lol.. I was tempted.. but I'm going to format the day of :)03:41
spazzzrupan3: I'll tell you all about it.  But before I can get it running I need to figure out how to get it to display.  I tried running the live cd and everything works fine until it runs XORG.03:41
Madpilot_JECKEL_, still in testing - it'll be out in mid-april03:41
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Vylar1978Hello03:41
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_JECKEL_ah ok cool03:41
_JECKEL_what will it offer?03:41
Vylar1978I have a question? I hope some one can help03:41
perrynew packages03:42
perrya different login screen03:42
samisad0rk:'( i really wish i could get this to work03:42
KillerKiwi2006Vylar1978: ask03:42
_JECKEL_lol03:42
Madpilot_JECKEL_, all sorts of new shininess :P03:42
Josh43_JECKEL_, Mind blowing realism ;)03:42
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Vylar1978I can't get my ubuntu online it won't take my modem03:42
soundrayfarous: some things are really nice and fast -- esp. firefox. Others don't work at all - swf plugin, openoffice...03:42
_JECKEL_lol03:42
perryupdated backgrounds03:42
Madpilot!dapper03:42
ubotufrom memory, dapper is pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! >/join #ubuntu+1< for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates03:42
rupan3Vylar1978: got a winmodem?03:42
perryVylar1978: is it a winmodem?03:42
Josh43_JECKEL_, The answer to all your desires03:42
rupan3hehe03:42
CineFX3D_wtf, why won't breezey installation accept 'satori' as my hostname?03:42
_JECKEL_ok03:42
soundrayfarous: mind you, this is with the extra challenge of being an amd64 system.03:42
perrybecause its an anagram of "as i rot"?03:42
_JECKEL_it accepted hell as mine >_>03:42
faroussoundray: i found ndiswrapper is hell with dapper. noticed the speed in firefox though am running 1.501 on breezy03:43
Josh43CineFX3D_, Another Satori exists on your subnet?03:43
Vylar1978It is the Robotics modem03:43
faroussoundray: goodluck that is not an easy one03:43
Madpilot_JECKEL_, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4 and /DapperFlight5 for the lastest Dapper news03:43
CineFX3D_perry: har har03:43
wastrelusrobotics eh03:43
rupan3CineFX3D_: i recognize that.. whats that from?03:43
Vylar19785610 B03:43
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wastreli used to have one of those03:43
spazzzSo does anyone know what I can do?03:43
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Vylar1978Us Robotics03:43
perryrupan3: that asian porn dvd you bought?03:43
Vylar1978Modem03:43
perry:P03:43
CineFX3D_rupan3: satori?03:43
perryVylar1978: it is a controllerless modem?03:43
perrycheck out linmodems.org for more info03:44
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perryi'm still looking for a decent non-linmodem on ebay03:44
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soundrayfarous: thanks. So far I am pleased with dapper, but also pleased that I waited for a quiet period at work...03:44
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perryi want to set up my old 386 as a voicemail server :P03:44
Vylar1978ok thanks you03:44
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bluefoxicystartkeylogger03:44
soundrayperry: the old mgetty...03:44
perryvgetty baby03:44
wastrelthey should start banning people who do that03:45
samisad0rkcould someone please help me if possible, im having probs gettin ubuntu live 64 to boot03:45
Vylar1978How do you know if it is controllerless ornot03:45
perryvykar: download scanmodem and let it tell you03:45
perry:)03:45
perrysampan: can't help you dude03:45
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perryif you were to let me borrow a 64 bit processor or two, i would gratefully test things out for you03:46
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torpedo|dogIs there a good way to resize an extended partition that has your swap on it?03:46
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mdmkolbeis it possible to logon to the root user with ubuntu?03:46
perrymdmkolbe: yes03:46
spazzzDoes anybody know how I can get Ubuntu's XORG to work correctly with a television screen?03:46
farous!tell mdmkolbe about root03:46
NoelJBCan anyone provide a quick process for where to modify the desktop (right-click, aka context) menu?03:46
perryyou have to set a root password though03:46
Madpilotmdmkolbe, use sudo & your own user pw instead03:46
Madpilotperry, you don't need one03:46
torpedo|dogspazzz, is your gfx card ATI03:46
torpedo|dog?03:47
samisad0rkcould someone please help me if possible, im having probs gettin ubuntu live 64 to boot03:47
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perrymadewokherd: no, but that wasn't his question03:47
perry:P03:47
perrymadpilot even03:47
madewokherdstop it03:47
perrydamned autocompletion sucks :P03:47
madewokherdget better nick completers03:47
Belboz99Hey, is it OK to fsck a mounted partition if you're in Recovery mode?03:47
perryor just turn the feature off :P03:47
perrybitchx03:47
IdleOne!enter03:47
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!03:47
perryall you need to do is ask03:47
perry:P03:47
spazzztorpedo|dog: It might be I honestly don't know for sure.  It was something I picked up out of my spare parts bin03:47
soundraysamisad0rk: if nobody is answering, it could be that nobody knows, or something is wrong with the question you are asking.03:47
Madpilotperry, there's too many other "mad..." nicks here right now. I should op up and kick the rest of them... (joking!)03:47
madewokherdctcps are easier03:47
torpedo|dogAh03:47
madewokherdbecause I don't have to form a sentence03:47
samisad0rkok im trying to boot ubuntu live 64 <perry> updated backgrounds03:48
samisad0rk<Madpilot> !dapper03:48
samisad0rk<ubotu> from memory, dapper is pre-release name for ne03:48
perrywhat version? 13 characters03:48
samisad0rkwoops..... didnt mean to do that however it did that lol03:48
madewokherdwell, if the nick completer was smarter, this wouldn't be a problem03:48
perryctcp version perry = more character :P03:48
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madewokherdbut I don't know any good ones for bitchx03:48
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torpedo|dogspazzz, so it's an old card?03:49
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torpedo|dogYou might want to figure out a model and ask on the forums, since it seems a little bit too involved for IRC ;)03:49
CineFX3D_stupid question.. boot partition should be primary and swap and home logical?03:49
madewokherdI'm not sure if irssi's is smart or not..03:49
perryheh03:49
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AngryElfhey all, some progress on compiling my kernel....now i'm getting:   Ext3-fs cannot read superblock....kernel panic..........is there some other module i've forgotten to compile in with the kernel??  thanx03:50
spazzztorpedo|dog: Not horribly old.  Probobly 5 years max.  More likely 2 or 303:50
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Vylar1978were do I get the gz  at for compression03:50
samisad0rkok im trying to boot ubuntu live 64 and it starts to boot and hangs on the message "kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!" ... maybe this is worded a little better03:50
farousmadewokherd: what do you mean by smart.  people should choose easier short names03:50
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soundrayCineFX3D_: it doesn't matter.03:50
madewokherdin particular I mean they complete based on who has spoken recently03:50
madewokherdit would pick me last because I hadn't spoken before03:50
CineFX3D_etx2 or ext3? :)03:51
wastrelhi03:51
xfcehello wastrel03:51
farousseank follow ubotu link there is a link to where you can download it03:51
farousmm wrong room03:51
soundraysamisad0rk: this may be a hardware problem, or a general incompatibility. Check your memory with the memtest kernel (should be a boot option).03:51
perrywell, shorter names tend to fill up quickly03:51
soundrayCineFX3D_: ext3.03:51
CineFX3D_thanks03:52
perrykinda like if there were only 4 characters in a nick, the # of possible nicks would be too small :)03:52
wastrelnobody likes a know-it-all03:52
perryespecially when they're dumb like me :P03:52
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perryi'm not a know it all, i just play one on irc03:52
soundrayperry, yeah, roughly 4^127, not a lot...03:53
_JECKEL_I can't get Aegis into my applications menu03:53
soundrayperry: or was it the other way round?03:53
Vylar1978were can I get a compression file like winzip or Rar for linux03:53
madewokherd4**127 => 28948022309329048855892746252171976963317496166410141009864396001978282409984L03:53
_JECKEL_even when I check it on my application menu editor03:53
madewokherdand there aren't 127 valid nick characters03:53
perryif i knew it all, i wouldn't have trouble getting synaptic to work when i was at work03:53
dotslashroot<root@hairclub># X: im not only a server, im also a client03:53
perryalphanumeric character?03:53
madewokherdit's more like 4003:53
soundraymadewokherd: ;) something wrong with my formula then.03:53
EnglaVylar1978: there is already the Archive Manager, it does zip but not rar03:54
perry26 letters + 0-903:54
rupan3Vylar1978: you have to look in the multiverse repository03:54
perrymaybe some brackets, etc03:54
EnglaVylar1978: you have to use synaptic to install an unrar tool03:54
soundrayperry: case sensitive - additional 2603:54
madewokherdand _\{}-03:54
CineFX3D_Vylar1978: or automatix03:54
madewokherdit's not case sensitive03:54
Vylar1978well it is for the linmodem scan modem03:54
perrysoundray: no03:54
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rupan3Vylar1978: there's unrar-free but i don't think there's a rar-free03:54
wastrel!automatix03:54
ubotuAutomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.03:54
Vylar1978I am not sure what it is on03:54
perryAAAA = aaaa03:54
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perryat least as far as irc is concerned :P03:54
madewokherdnetwork.isupport['CASEMAPPING']  => 'ascii'03:54
madewokherdthat means we get []  too03:54
perryas i said03:55
faroushm i think this is better for offtopic guys lets keep the channel for support03:55
xfce+o03:55
Vylar1978How do I get to commandline on ubuntu03:55
perrytru nuff03:55
madewokherd32*42**3 => 237081603:55
javioloanyone here has a imap account ? Is there any way to create filters to move mail to specific folders ?03:55
rupan3Vylar1978: hit Ctrl-Alt-F103:55
CineFX3D_I didn't know automatix is risky business03:55
perryVylar1978: apps accessories terminal03:55
rupan3Vylar1978: or run a terminal emulator03:55
wastreljaviolo:  that would be procmail's job i think.03:55
seraphimnice tip rupan3. now try to tell him how to come back :D03:55
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rupan3haha03:56
perryhehehe03:56
wastreljaviolo:  my mail goes thru fetchmail -> procmail -> imap03:56
perryhe didnt ask03:56
perry:P03:56
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samisad0rkthanks soundray, i will try that now :)03:56
rupan3Vylar1978: ctrl-alt-F1 thru f6 are consoles, and ctrl-alt-f7 will bring you back to the gui03:56
spazzzOk.. I guess no one here can help me03:56
rupan3haha03:56
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rupan3seraphim: good call lol03:56
soundrayCineFX3D_: in the hand of a knowledgeable user, it isn't necessarily risky. Problem is, it's intended to help newbies...03:56
rupan3seraphim: you know what \n is ? the name for those symbols?03:57
soundrayspazzz: I think your kind of problem requires a web search. Sorry.03:57
javiolowastrel Im using evolution, I created the filters but dont work, all the mail is in the inbox03:57
CineFX3D_I know, that's why I use it.. I really am new to linux, and don't have much time to explore it as I need it to run right now :/ It helped me though03:57
LinuxJonesspazzz: what's wrong ?03:57
seraphimno03:57
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rupan3i'm trying to google up a list but i don't know they're proper name03:57
spazzzsoundray: I do the websearch before I come here.  If it was something that simple I would have solved it myself by now03:57
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rupan3escape codes or something03:58
NoelJBSo should I take it that no one knows how to modify the Gnome desktop context menu?03:58
perryescape sequence03:58
spazzzLinuxJones: Im trying to build a myth TV box and the stupid XORG won't play nice with my TV.03:58
rupan3perry: you rule. thanks man03:58
dooglusrupan3: before suggesting Ctrl-Alt-F1 to anyone make sure you tell them about Alt-F7 to get back here...03:58
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EnglaNoelJB: what do you you want to do with it?03:58
soundrayspazzz: I didn't mean this in a critical or derogative way. Sorry if it came across like that.03:58
perryack03:58
bungrudiis OOo2 package for ubuntu available already?03:58
dooglusrupan3: otherwise they'll possibly lose all the documents they were working on, thinking their PC crashed.03:58
MadpilotNoelJB, Gnome's own documentation is pretty good - Have you asked Google yet?03:58
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javiolowastrel using fetchmail + procmail isnt that too complicated ?03:58
perryhttp://www.cppreference.com/escape_sequences.html03:58
seraphimand then they will blame linux03:59
NoelJBEngla: I want to add entries to it, e.g., an Open Terminal entry.03:59
soundrayspazzz: but your best chance is really to find someone who has your card, got the TVout working, and has written about it.03:59
rupan3dooglus: yeah i figured that, now. didn't think of it03:59
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MadpilotNoelJB, to get an open-terminal entry, install nautilus-open-terminal03:59
rupan3perry: you rock my socks. thanks, brudda :)03:59
Amaranth!info nautilus-open-terminal03:59
ubotunautilus-open-terminal: (open terminal in any folder from Nautilus), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 372 kB03:59
perryrupan3: don't tell my wife ;)03:59
perryshe'll divorce me03:59
perrytake all my dough03:59
rupan3lol03:59
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Madpilotrupan3, it's even easier to just tell people where gnome-terminal is...03:59
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EnglaNoelJB: you can use nautilus scripts to do that. Or install 'nautilus-actions' that can do that and lots more03:59
NoelJBSo there is no way to otherwise modify the menu?04:00
spazzzSoundray: I've looked.  No one seems to have tried this.  It works fine in windows from the get go.   I think i've had knoppix running on this before.  I don't understand why Ubuntu has to always be a pain about screen issues04:00
CineFX3D_how about total commander replacement on linux.. but not mc? :)04:00
bungrudiis OOo2 package for ubuntu available already?04:00
LinuxJonesspazzz: mythtv is not supported as part of the core Ubuntu install so getting will be spotty on something like that. There might be a mythtv channel here on freenode  ?04:00
farousAmaranth: i was always wondering why nautilus open terminal is not installed by default ?04:00
EnglaNoelJB: search for those two terms and you'll find something04:00
NoelJBEngla: OK.  FWIW, preferences:/// and applications:/// appear to be broken in the ubuntu distro of nautilus.04:00
rupan3yep04:00
Belboz99hey, is it OK to fsck a mounted partition in recovery mode?04:00
perrystupid question04:00
spazzzLinuxJones: Im not even to the mythTV part so the fact it isn't supported is immaterial04:00
bungrudihm.. found it04:01
Amaranthfarous: because normal users should never have to use the terminal04:01
soundrayspazzz: if it worked in Knoppix, you could copy the generated XF86Config-4 over and use it to guide your xorg setup.04:01
Amaranthfarous: if they do, someone is broken04:01
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perryon my linux desktop, i installed kde-base and other kde  packages...i eventually got it rid of it because i thought it was cluttered04:01
EnglaNoelJB: true. I thought that was something gnome deprecated though04:01
farousAmaranth: it is in the menus04:01
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perryon my laptop, i'm tempted to install kubuntu packages...will it not have 50,000,000 apps that all do the same thing?04:01
farousAmaranth: sorry that is the strangest answer i ever heared04:01
NoelJBEngla: hmmm ... still in the docs distributed with Ubuntu, though.04:01
Jambonhas anyone had firefox automatically open downloads when clicked on, because it used to ask me where to save them, and now it just tries to open them04:01
soundrayspazzz: is a full-featured DVB card not an option?04:01
Amaranthfarous: something, not someone :)04:02
rupan3perry: i didn't get along with kubuntu04:02
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NoelJBSo I should be installing nautilus-open-terminal and nautilus-actions?04:02
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spazzzSoundray: Not untill im satisfied it will do what I want04:02
callan_How can I make windows go to other workspaces when I drag them to the side of the screen in gnome?04:02
farous:)04:02
rupan3rupan3: the regular ubuntu install detected all my hardware.. kubuntu was a LOT of work to get going04:02
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perrycase in point: like 15 graphics apps04:02
Amaranthfarous: it's in the menus because we know things are broken and if it wasn't there users would have no way of getting to it04:02
rupan3err perry: not rupan3:04:02
rupan3hehe04:02
perry18 multimedia parogs04:02
soundrayspazzz: catch22 then.04:02
EnglaNoelJB: you probably only need one of those, but nautilus-actions seems very cool so try it. [it didn't work for me, though] 04:02
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Belboz99does anyone know if it's OK to fsck a mounted partition while in recovery mode?04:03
perryi'm not worried about hardware...just cluttered desktop and everything else04:03
KrillancelloI'm about to do a 'sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center gnome-terminal nautilus mozilla-firefox gedit xchat'. I think that should be a good way to start out with a basic setup.04:03
HondaDarrelldoes anyone know where I find EasyUbuntu? Is it in universe or does it have a webpage?04:03
KrillancelloO_o04:03
SbCl3does anyone know how to decompress .sit (stuffit) archives on ubuntu?04:03
spazzzSoundray: I guess i'm just angry because I don't understand why Ubuntu has to be a b**** about Video cards.  Its one of the MAIN THINGS for the OS to support and Ubuntu sucks at it.04:03
doogluscallan_: you mean "edge flipping"?04:03
spazzzWhich is a shame considering how easy the rest of the system is04:03
callan_dooglus: I suppose.04:03
Madpilot!tell HondaDarrell about easyubuntu04:03
doogluscallan_: you don't want that.  it's too confusing.04:04
perry!tell perry about easybuntu04:04
spazzzAnd im just frustrated because Ubuntu has never just detected the card and ran with it like its supposed too04:04
perry!tell perry about easyubuntu04:04
tritiumspazzz: tell that to the proprietary video manufacturers.  it's not ubuntu's fault04:04
callan_dooglus: How can I enable it to test it then?04:04
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spazzztritium: Bull... Plenty of other Linux Distro's make it work.04:04
NoelJBEngla: I'll look.  BTW, is `info nautilus-open-terminal" (or nautilus-actions) supposed to work?  Doesn't here.04:04
soundrayspazzz: I don't share your experience. I guess your angle is not a universal one.04:04
tritiumspazzz: no, not bull04:04
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MadpilotNoelJB, the "info" stuff we use here is a command to the bot04:05
SbCl3does anyone know how to decompress .sit (stuffit) archives on ubuntu?04:05
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EnglaNoelJB: I don't know.04:05
spazzztritium: yess bull this isn't an issue of WIndows working and Linux not... Then you can blame it on the driver makers.  This is an issue of somethign working perfectly fine in one Linux Distro and not in another04:05
doogluscallan_: I don't think it's possible to enable edge-flipping in GNOME without switching to a different window manager.04:05
MadpilotNoelJB, just install nautilus-open-terminal - you might have to restart nautilus after installing it04:05
perrywell, its time to get to bed04:05
tritiumspazzz: which video chipset are you referring to?04:05
NoelJBMadpilot: LOL  that would explain why it didn't work from bash  ;-)04:05
NoelJB!info nautilus-open-terminal04:06
ubotunautilus-open-terminal: (open terminal in any folder from Nautilus), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 372 kB04:06
spazzzTritium: Dosen't seem to matter.  I have both ATI and Ubuntu won't run either without SOME kind of issue.04:06
callan_dooglus: That's a shame, thanks for your help anyway.04:06
Vylar1978why don't my floppy drive work04:06
NoelJB!info nautilus-actions04:06
soundrayspazzz: you may be right, and it could be an issue of xorg versus xfree86. In any case, if you still want advice, you are in the right place. If you want to sound off about it, you're not.04:06
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tritiumspazzz: ATI is _not_ cooperative with the open source community04:06
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spazzzWith my ATI card it wouln't work in anything other than 680x480 or something.  My new NVIDIA did the same04:06
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shivwhat program can I use to watch shoutcast TV just like streamtuner?04:06
EnglaNoelJB: that's not a package what I know, I got it from gnomefiles. Hence it didn't work :-(04:06
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doogluscallan_: there's something called 'brightside' which looks promising: http://catmur.co.uk/~ed/main/brightside/04:06
Madpilotcallan_, for edge stuff, there's something called brightside - it's in Ubuntu's repos (I haven't used it, just noticed it)04:06
spazzzThis one works fine untill XORG runs and then scrables the screen all up04:07
CineFX3D_can I run Krusader under ubuntu/GNOME?04:07
Madpilotdooglus, heh - great minds, or something :P04:07
NoelJBEngla: Ah04:07
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dooglus!info brightside04:07
ubotubrightside: (Add reactivity to the corners and edges of your GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-7ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 97 kB, Installed size: 928 kB04:07
callan_Thanks.04:07
shivwhat program can I use to watch shoutcast TV just like streamtuner?04:07
Bilange_great minds think alike or something similar :P04:07
spazzzsoundray: I asked for advise earlier and was told to go google it.  Which i've already done.  Its just frustrating is all04:07
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cronikhello everyone04:07
dooglusgreat minds know how to search the repository...04:07
PuMpErNiCkLespazzz: Which driver are you using?04:07
croniki need some help04:07
KrillancelloBrightside? Would that be like run a program if you put your mouse in the upper-left corner or something?04:08
spazzzTritium: ATI dosen't matter... Its not just ati and as I said these cards work fine in other disto's.04:08
BioSnorEshiv: I think xmms has a plugin for that.. I know it handles shoutcase audio np04:08
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soundrayspazzz: I gather from your earlier replies that you didn't search for your specific gc model. Correct?04:08
TrinisanQues can take a screenshot from the live cd?04:08
dooglusKrillancello: it looks like it allows you to do <stuff> when the mouse does <stuff> - so you could enable edge-flipping as an example04:08
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SbCl3does anyone know how to decompress .sit (stuffit) archives on ubuntu?04:08
shivI know audio for fine I was looking for shoutcast TV (video)04:08
spazzzsoundray: Not yet on this one no.  I didn't figure that was even worth it untill I got the system in some kind of usable form.  I can't even boot it like this04:09
Krillancellodooglus: What is edge-flipping? Making the mouse cursor wrap around from one side to the other?04:09
croniki want to install hydra,but my friend tould me i need to add somthing to the packege maneger to be able to get it04:09
Belboz99okay, can someone at least give me an answer?  ANY answer?  I hate being ignored!  Is it OK to fsck a mounted partition while in recovery mode?04:09
cronikanyone knows how to do this?04:09
shivhow do u type my name when you answer me?04:09
kahuna_Hi. Does anyone know of a console based dvd shrinking program that can do the whole disk, not just a single title?04:09
kahuna_Belboz99: It's never OK to fsck a mounted partition04:09
seraphimspazzz: for resolution tra04:09
seraphimerr04:09
Bilange_Belboz99: if no one answers, its because no one is sure enough of its answers, your not being ignored :) but...04:09
cronikanyone knows how to do this?04:09
croniksome help04:09
Vylar1978How do you get the a drive to work04:09
NoelJBMadpilot: apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal fails, saying that it cannot find the package.04:10
cronik:)04:10
seraphimresolution-settings try the vga option at boot04:10
Vylar1978floppy drive04:10
PuMpErNiCkLeBelboz99: No, fscking mounted partitions isn't safe.  I recommend using a livecd.04:10
spazzzseraphim: for resolution tra?04:10
Trinisanthis is hot, i did prtsc and it took a screenshot, hotness04:10
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seraphimsso you can have a nice high resolution just from the beginning04:10
MadpilotNoelJB, do you have the Universe repo enabled?04:10
soundraySbCl3: you will need proprietary software for this. http://www.stuffit.com/unix/04:10
Belboz99kahuna: thanks for answering, the thing is that it's mounted as "rw, errors=ro",04:10
seraphimspazzz:  sorry, stepped on enter too early04:10
Bilange_Belboz99: im not sure of my answer myself, but fscking a partition is necessary once in awhile, reguardless where or how you do it (from recovery mode, from another livecd, or whatever)04:10
soundrayspazzz: no chance to connect a monitor temporarily?04:11
LinuxJonesspazzz: so your problem is xorg output to your tv ?04:11
kahuna_Belboz99: like PuMpErNiCkLe said, use a livecd if possible. If not use something like tomsrb, then fsck the unmounted partition.04:11
Belboz99the thing is I'm not sure if recovery has root mounted as ro or rw04:11
PuMpErNiCkLerw04:11
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Bilange_Belboz99: any ways, be sure to read the manpage to be sure you're not going to screw up the partition or its data :S04:11
dooglusKrillancello: edge-flipping is switching from one workspace to the next when your mouse goes off the side of the screen.04:11
spazzzSeraphim: I tried that with the vga=771 flag and it didn't help04:11
Belboz99alright, I'll have to dig through my CD's to find one of those live disks04:11
Celestehi04:11
PuMpErNiCkLeAt least, I think it will be rw...04:11
spazzzSoundray: Don't have one availiable there at the moment04:11
spazzzLinuxJones: Correct04:12
Krillancellodooglus: Well... I was close. Lol. That actually sounds nice.04:12
kahuna_It's OK to check the partition, just not repair.04:12
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KrillancelloI might try brightside if I can get this notebook running properly.04:12
dooglusKrillancello: it sounds nice, until you keep doing it accidentally all the time04:12
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Krillancellodooglus: Yes, that's true. Lmao.04:13
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CelesteI am searching for a modified StarterBar - a gDesklet - I found and lost it today by a mistake - it is a special modified StarterBar which makes the icons stay IN a specified height,  and not as the original StarterBar,  that the Icons grow over the border04:13
Celestewho knows where I can find this StarterBar??04:13
DelvienAnyone running WoW have the "NO CLICK" problem ?????04:13
dooglusKrillancello: Havoc Pennington of the GNOME project described it was "...ouija board UI, where you just move the mouse around and the computer guesses what you mean, has a lot of issues"04:13
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vvlawis that totem can not support the x264 codec?04:14
bouncingHow do I turn on IP Forwarding through my ppp interface?04:14
Krillancello...04:14
Krillancello... I forgot to apt-get gdm. -_-;;04:14
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LinuxJonesspazzz: what kind of hardware is it your running ?04:15
seraphimbouncing: install firestarter04:15
seraphimit can manage that04:15
KrillancelloThat was smart of me. Install a desktop environment and not a ?dm.04:15
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Delvienis there a WoW linux channel ?04:15
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NoelJBMadpilot: OK, I see it.  Still not really what I want, though.  Close.  I just want to add a standard entry to the desktop context menu.  Oh well.04:15
bouncingseraphim: I'm looking for something a bit less serious. just a one-off.04:15
spazzzLinuxJones: Its a Dell Computer PIII 1Ghz.  Running a TVAnywhere capture card and a ATI 128MB video card with SVIDEO out04:16
MadpilotNoelJB, naut-open-term should have added a "Open Terminal" option to your right-click menu? Seems pretty standard to me...04:16
seraphimbouncing:  then you have to define some rules with iptables i think04:17
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bouncingseraphim: I thought I just had to put 1 in a proc file and do maybe some other quick fix?04:17
NoelJBMadpilot: it wants to do it for ALL folder objects, such that the terminal opens in that directory.  I want to restore a standard menu item that you would find, for example, on every RH Gnome desktop.04:18
dooglusseraphim: ipkungfu is nice04:18
vvlawno body know how to paly x264 files?04:18
Vylar1978Thinks I need get unix for dummies?04:18
seraphimthe other quick fix is telling iptables ehat to do with which packet on which device and so on04:18
MadpilotNoelJB, I've never used RH Gnome - and I think the point of the naut. term package is to allow you to get your directories to the command line easily04:19
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CineFX3D_I just installed breezey.. I wan't hoary wallpaper back :)04:19
mcquaidanyone here use a usb sound card in ubuntu?04:20
seraphimif you just want some forwarding i really recommend firestarter. it's very easy there04:20
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Vylar1978Can some one tell me how to getmy flopy  to work again04:20
seraphimand you could easyly forward special ports if you need04:20
seraphimand so on04:20
mcquaidi'm considering getting one, and want to make sure i'm not going to run into some issues i've read about before04:20
NoelJBMadpilot: yes, I understand what it does.  Just not quite what I want, so I will need to figure out how to tailor ubuntu to do what *I* want.04:21
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MadpilotNoelJB, fair enough - if/when you figure it out, post a howto on the wiki or somewhere for others04:21
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dlican I do those "hi-speed dialup" in ubuntu04:22
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zacharyhey04:22
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Belea_hi there04:23
Belea_where i shoudl edit this values04:23
KrillancelloOkay... X doesn't want to run.04:23
Belea_vsync range 0:  56.00 -  76.0004:23
Belea_and04:23
Belea_hsync range 0:  30.00 -  81.0004:23
spazzzKrillancelo: join the party ;-)04:24
Belea_because my lcd its not in the middle04:24
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Belea_until i use xvidtune04:24
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seraphimBelea_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:24
Belea_yes..  but where ?04:24
seraphimah04:24
bouncingseraphim: Ok, I don't like firestarter04:25
seraphimSection "Monitor"04:25
Belea_i tried in the Section "Monitor"04:25
seraphim        HorizSync       30-7004:25
seraphim        VertRefresh     50-16004:25
spazzzKrillancello: Seriously whats it doing for you>04:25
Belea_:D04:25
Belea_oh04:25
Belea_without 0:04:25
Belea_cul, thx04:25
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Belea_and how can i restart trhe xserver ?04:25
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seraphimctrl-alt-backspace04:25
Belea_i know how to shotdown :)04:25
Belea_that is for shutdown ?04:26
Belea_and to bring it back ?04:26
seraphimrestarts the x-server04:26
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Madpilot!enter04:26
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!04:26
seraphimmost of the time04:26
Belea_cul, thx04:26
seraphimif it doesn't "sudo killall gdm" "sudo gdm"04:26
doogluswhere is the documentation for gnome-screensaver?  it doesn't seem to have a manual page04:26
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Englaseraphim: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'04:27
seraphimthanks :D04:27
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Delvienanyone here help me with a World of Warcraft + Wine problem ?04:27
rupan3is there a way to reload my xorg.conf without logging out and back in?04:27
NoelJBMadpilot: will do.  I'm wondering if it requires writing a nautilus extension, but I'll find out, and compare against the RHEL distro.04:28
Kyralrupan3: nope04:28
seraphimno04:28
Rob_DudeKDE/Gnome are not part of Linux - they are just commonly used applications, right?04:28
rupan3hrmm bummer04:28
rupan3thx :)04:28
syllogismRob_Dude: roger that04:28
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dooglusRob_Dude: Linux is the name of the kernel04:28
Celestedoes anyone of you have an idea where Mac OS X puts minimiyed windows?04:28
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Rob_DudeCan you get a KDE/Gnome port and run it in windows?04:29
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syllogismCeleste: it puts 'em down at the bottom. . . somewhere. . .04:29
torpedo|dogRob_Dude, 'tain't easy.04:29
pugzillastartkeylogger04:29
kahuna_bastard04:29
kahuna_stop fucking around.04:29
pugzillai cant get my flopy to werk04:29
torpedo|dogYou need to use cygwin and X and a lot a lot a lot a lot of configuration and stuff.04:29
Rob_DudeAhh, gotcha04:30
Celestesyllogism, can I see a screenshot please?04:30
kahuna_scuse the language guys.04:30
Celestesyllogism, I am just modding gnome04:30
LinuxJonespugzilla: haha04:30
syllogismI use Xming and tunnel X11 sessions over ssh04:30
Celestewanna make it look exactly as Mac OS04:30
torpedo|dogRob_Dude, if you're up to the challenge, go nuts ;)04:30
Krillancellohttp://pastebin.com/581374 I just installed X, Gnome and GDM on this notebook, and it does this at boot. Can anyone help me fix this?04:31
syllogismCeleste: I hate Macs. . .as a matter of fact, the only mac I'd consider buying is #1 at McDonalds04:31
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EnglaCeleste: on osx, minimized windows go in a side section of the dock, as thumbnail icons04:31
Rob_DudeI really like this multiple desktop thing and everything in Gnome....I've used some multiple desktop program in Windows - but it sucked04:31
Vylar1978Can any one help me get my floppy to work04:32
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Rob_DudeAt work we have to run windows...but we can still applications if we want04:32
CelesteEngla, thank you!04:32
Rob_DudeI was hoping I could get Gnome running :)04:32
EnglaCeleste: no problem. It can't be easy to duplicate that in gnome though04:32
Englaimpossible, even04:32
pugzillaplug it in04:32
CelesteEngla,  I think you are right04:33
EnglaRob_Dude: run linux inside vmware?04:33
Vylar1978the floppy it is plugged in04:33
torpedo|dogRob_Dude, looks like you might look at http://cygwinports.dotsrc.org/04:33
wastreldon't be sad04:33
EnglaCeleste: some window manager makes icons out of minimized windows.. I have no Idea how to work with this though, sorry04:33
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pugzilladoes anyone know about "stopkeylogger"04:33
Rob_DudeEngla:  That's not a bad idea04:33
pugzilla?04:33
CineFX3D_where can I get wallpaper from hoary?04:33
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rupan3Celeste: XFCE does that04:33
CelesteI have a very important question ...04:33
Englapugzilla: I read about it today04:33
Vylar1978Pug were you nto talking to me04:34
pugzillai read irt too04:34
pugzilladont werk04:34
Celestecan I teach GNOME  by maximiying windows  NOT use the very left  100px  ?04:34
Engladid someone drop from this channel, pugzilla? ;-) I have parts ignored04:34
CelesteI need the very left 100px for a gDesklet which should be ALWAYS visible04:34
rupan3i know you can in xfce04:34
rupan3hehe04:34
mdmkolbewhere can I find information on the status of dapper drake?04:34
wastrelCeleste:  make a transparent gnome panel that's 100px wide04:35
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wastreland stick it on the left out of the way of the desklet04:35
rupan3wastrel: good idea ;)04:35
Madpilotmdmkolbe, search the Ubuntu wiki for "dapper" - there are a couple of status pages04:35
Celestewastrel, a trasparent panel??04:35
Celestewow lemme try04:35
Vylar1978How do I get my floppy to work?04:35
EnglaCeleste: this is an ugly trick.. oh wastrel was faster04:35
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EnglaCeleste: I tested that and it works04:36
rupan3pretty smart idea.. i stil like xfce and the workspace margins that you can set though :p04:36
mdmkolbeMadpilot: thx04:36
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Krillancellohttp://pastebin.com/581374 I just installed X, Gnome and GDM on this notebook, and it does this. Can anyone help me fix it?04:37
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phantomcircuitstartkeylogger04:37
Englahehe04:37
brucyhi does anyone know what I must fix in /etc/fstav in order to avoir mounting a disk at every boot?04:37
Celesteit does not work - you cannot click the gdesklet in the background any more04:38
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cK-gLocKcan anyone here help me update my videocard drivers, im running old 7667 drivers.need help updating to the latest nvidia drivers. im running ubuntu ofcourse ftw04:38
wastrelbrucy:  noauto in options04:38
brucythanks04:38
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EnglaKrillancello: what X package did you install?04:39
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EnglaKrillancello: that's the exact line to launch X that my breezy install uses, so the gdm conf should be okay. that X is missing is alarming though04:39
spazzzWhat keys do I press to shutdown the Xserver and go to the command line?  I don't want it to restart.  I need this so I can try to fix XORG04:39
wastrelCeleste:  bummer :[04:39
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dliKrillancello, apt-get install xserver-xorg04:40
Englaspazzz: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' ; use start to start it again04:40
dyrnecK-gLocK: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=latest+nvidia04:40
wastrelspazzz:  ctrl-alt-f1  will put you on the console.    or what engla said04:40
spazzzEngala: I can't see the screen04:40
spazzzwastrel: Thats it thank you04:40
Xenguyspazzz: drop to the console (Ctrl-Alt-F2), then do: /etc/init.d/gdm stop04:40
Xenguyspazzz: er, sudo that04:41
spazzzThanks...04:41
Vylar1978Can some help me?04:41
spazzzI finaly got the system to boot now I just need to get X to display something other than garbage04:41
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renanola04:41
KrillancelloWhat the hell...04:41
brucyWhich site must I add to /etc/apt/source.list to install mplayer I read that it was in universe but I can't find it04:41
renantem alguem do brasil aki04:42
KrillancelloWhen I try to use startx, my X server's xserverrc tries to "exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp"04:42
KrillancelloThere's no /usr/bin/X11/X.04:42
KrillancelloO_o04:42
Celesteok,  so is there an OTHER option than the invisible Panel  to make maximizing windows STOP 100px away from the left edge of the screen??04:42
spazzzOk let me ask this... If I start the Live CD and type: live vga=771 at boot it gives me the graphical menus that were scrambled before but as soon as the system loads everything scrables agian04:43
XenguyVylar1978: does this work?:  sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt04:43
Krillancelloo_o...04:43
spazzzWhat did the vga=771 option do and how can I duplicate this once the system starts?04:43
Krillancello'/usr/bin/X11 is a link to ../bin.04:44
Krillancello>_>04:44
Vylar1978xenguy do Iput that on commmand line04:44
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XenguyVylar1978: yup04:45
XenguyKrillancello: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 14 Dec 28 10:24 X -> ../X11R6/bin/X04:45
benplaut"We are now in 'bug freeze' - the bugs are preserved in their natural state so they can be observed by the masses"04:45
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g14I am typing this to see if anyone has Norton Internet Security. startkeylogger04:46
XenguyKrillancello: so what is the output for: ls -ld /usr/bin/X11R6/X04:46
XenguyVylar1978: then if it works, you should see the floppy contents by typing:  ls /mnt04:47
PuMpErNiCkLeg14: In this channel? :p04:48
PuMpErNiCkLeTry that exploit in #windows or something.04:48
naliothg14: what are you doing?04:48
Englastopkeylogger04:49
Engla;-)04:49
nalioth!offtopic04:49
uboturumour has it, offtopic is Non-support discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!04:49
g14nalioth: check slashdot04:49
Xenguyg14: go away :P04:49
wastrelCeleste:  perhaps ask on #gnome or in a gnome mailing list....04:49
naliothg14: #ubuntu-offtopic04:49
PuMpErNiCkLenalioth: It's an exploit in Norton that makes you quit if it detects certain 'key'phrases associated with some trojans.04:49
Vylar1978xenguy it works04:49
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XenguyVylar1978: cool - I wonder if you can mount your floppy with Nautilus File Manager then?04:50
Vylar1978xenguy: How do you do that but first can you help me get my modem online04:50
XenguyVylar1978: to unmount the floppy (when you are done), do: umount /mnt04:50
wastrelwe should set up a bot that autobans when someone usese that keylogger thing04:51
borohello , can some help me ?, i need playing StarCraft my ubuntu can cedega 4.2.2 funny good but is very slow...and other games also like Devil 2, some idea? thank04:51
XenguyVylar1978: what kind of modem?04:51
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boromy pc is Celeron 1G,256Ram04:51
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Toma-this is a big ask, but does anyone know what wiki server wiki.ubuntu works on? if any...04:51
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clever`revwhere can i find the settings for how long the pc can idle before the laptop screen shuts itself off?04:52
Vylar1978xenguy:us robotics 56k modem04:52
naliothclever`rev: in system > prefs > screen saver > advanced04:52
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Vylar1978v.9204:52
wastrelToma-:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/wiki/credits04:52
clever`rev:D04:52
clever`revthanks04:53
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Toma-thanks wastrel :P04:53
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XenguyVylar1978: brb04:54
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mikebotanyone know why, in firefox, when i am using mouse3 to move aorund on a page, when i release, it opens a link?04:54
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wastrelmikebot:  ff1.5?04:55
NoelJBMadpilot: Aha!  Found what's going on ... see:04:55
NoelJBhttp://live.gnome.org/Nautilus04:55
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wastrelmikebot:  i've been wondering that myself :] 04:55
_jasonmikebot: about:config in the address bar and change middlemouse.contentLoadURL to false04:55
mikebotwastrel, yeah hehe04:55
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jason_qhi04:55
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mikebot_jason, wonderful, thank you04:56
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alihi i have a printer on windows 98 at my work place04:56
marchey guys04:56
aliand i want to connect through my ubuntu 5.404:56
XenguyVylar1978: so you are on dialup?04:56
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Vylar1978yes04:56
alii cannot see my printers in my places -> network server04:57
Xenguy!dialup04:57
ubotudialup is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto04:57
marcDid you guys got World of wacraft working on Ubuntu ???04:57
Toma-marc, yep04:57
alii can see other share folders but i cannot print ?04:57
Vylar1978!dialup  I put that in command line04:57
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Vylar197804:57
alii have got the ppd file for hp laserjet 1100A04:58
marcToma- is it pretty complecated to install04:58
Toma-hey _jason, any idea on how to turn off highlight copy in the adress bar? :D04:58
MadpilotVylar1978, read the URL the bot just posted04:58
Toma-marc, from what ive heard, no04:58
EnglaVylar1978: that's just a command for this channel :-)04:58
alianyone ???????????????????????] 04:58
marcyou us it with winehq i guess04:58
_jasonToma-: i'm pretty sure that is an option in about:config as well but I don't know off the top of my head04:58
Toma-rightio04:58
XenguyVylar1978: I used to have good success with 'pppconfig' (can be run at the command-line); 'kppp' is a decent GUI04:59
XenguyVylar1978: no04:59
_jasonToma-: browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll possibly04:59
Xenguy!tell Vylar1978 about dialup04:59
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Vylar1978ok04:59
aliis it possible to access windows printer from ubuntu? i cannot print driver .ppd is installed in my machine05:00
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XenguyVylar1978: see the link ubotu sent you for more details than just pppconfig and kppp05:00
dolsondoes anyone know of a really simple app like Thoggen but for another format, such as XviD or MPEG?05:00
Vylar1978I am new to unix did not thinkit would be this differnt05:00
alivlc05:00
aliVylar1978, vlc player05:00
Toma-hmmm if only find worked in this about:config page05:00
Toma-oh... filter :D05:00
Toma-silly05:00
XenguyVylar1978: ever OS is 'different' if you're not familiar with it :-)05:00
LaoI'm new to Linux too but finding it somewhat easier than I expected05:01
Toma-_jason, it was clipboard.autocopy i think05:01
_jasonToma-: ah05:01
aliis it possible to access windows printer from ubuntu? i cannot print driver .ppd is installed in my machine05:01
Toma-nope05:01
Toma-:|05:01
_jasonToma-: I didn't even know it did that, I thought you meant how it selected the whole thing :)05:01
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_jasonToma-: some of the things need you to restart firefox05:02
Toma-ok05:02
CineFX3D_where is root terminal in breezy gone??05:02
aliis it possible to access windows printer from ubuntu? i cannot print driver .ppd is installed in my machine05:02
mikebotwastrel, as what we were talking about before, are there any plans to reimplement the menu editing?05:02
Toma-CineFX3D_, its hidden from root monsters05:02
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MadpilotCineFX3D_, it was removed from the menu - just use a regular term + sudo...05:02
CineFX3D_I see ;)05:02
XenguyCineFX3D_: I think that was a Gnome decision (a poor one IMHO)05:02
_jasonCineFX3D_: sudo -s, will give you one05:02
LaoVylar: what I have been doing, and it's helped me alot with learning how Linux actually works, is installing and messing around in terminal until I break it05:02
wastrelmikebot:  i've actually heard about a menu editor they use in edubuntu to simplify menus for kids... might ask in that channel05:03
CineFX3D_I know, thanks.. looks like GNOME thing after all..poor one05:03
XenguyCineFX3D_: oh, maybe I misread05:03
aliis it possible to access windows printer from ubuntu? i cannot print driver .ppd is installed in my machine05:03
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alianyone ???????????05:03
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alianyone????????????05:03
Toma-hidden from people that like to use # mplayer dvd:// because they setup dvd wrong05:03
mikebotwastrel, okay, thanks05:03
Installer36Ali yes it is possible but I dont know how05:03
_adubwhat is the latest stable kernel that i can apt-get install05:03
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alithanks for the reply Installer36 no one here reply even :(05:03
aliso sad05:03
Laoali: is it on a network or directly connected to the computer?05:04
Xenguyali: repeating just gets you /ignored typically05:04
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tritiumali: you're not patient enough05:04
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Madpilot_adub, Ubuntu will automatically notify you if there's a kernel update available05:04
alion the network05:04
Vylar1978were is a site that tells the differnt commands to use on linux05:04
mdmkolbethis may be an odd question but what wiki software does the ubuntu wiki use?05:04
alisorry for that tritium05:04
Madpilot!tell Vylar1978 about cli05:04
Toma-!bash05:04
ubotuFor a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands05:04
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Toma-i c05:04
Madpilotmdmkolbe, MoinMoin05:04
tritiumali: no problem05:04
aliLao its on the network05:04
mdmkolbeMadpilot: thx again05:05
Laoali: I know theres a windows networking device called Samba, try using that and if you have to just send files to another computere and print there05:05
Toma-wow... i asked that just 5 mins ago mdmkolbe05:05
Toma-:P05:05
XenguyCineFX3D_: there's this tho (not sure if it applies to you)...05:05
elaverickAnyone able to give me some assistance?  I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my Acer Laptop and it keeps hanging part way through installing remaining packages.05:05
Englamdmkolbe: and moinmoin is in the repos if you want it05:05
alithat is 98 Lao i cannot send all the time05:05
Xenguy!tell CineFX3D_ about terminal05:05
LaoAli: yea I caught it I just take forever to type05:05
alisamba is there working05:05
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_adubmadpilot im using kubuntu05:05
Vylar1978what is cli05:05
tritiumcommand line interface05:05
XenguyVylar1978: command line interface05:06
Madpilot_adub, same back end05:06
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Vylar1978I found that now lol05:06
XenguyVylar1978: as opposed to GUI05:06
MadpilotVylar1978, the bot should have sent you a msg with a bunch of URLs?05:06
Vylar1978I got my floopy to work thatnks to it05:06
LaoAli: well its something till you can find a good LUG that can help05:06
Vylar1978I only got one that I seen05:06
aliLUG what is that ?05:06
_adubmadpilot05:06
_adubok05:06
dolsondoes anyone know of a really simple app like Thoggen but for another format, such as XviD or MPEG?05:06
BoelckeSilly question: I've also installed the XFCE desktop, and now that I have, the bootup sequence is a blue Xubuntu, rather than the brown Ubuntu I've been used to seeing.05:06
MadpilotVylar1978, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org05:07
BoelckeAny ideas on how to change that back?05:07
LaoAli: a LUG is a local Linux users group05:07
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wastrelnight05:07
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aliok05:07
Burgundaviahas anyone used aegis virus scanner? How does it stack up to clamav?05:07
XenguyVylar1978: in GNOME, Apps > Accessories > Terminal05:07
alithanks for the advice Lao05:07
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LaoAli: try searching the web and looking for Lugs in your area, I've seen alot of them can be found at local universities05:07
Vylar1978why does it keep asking for password every time I do commands05:07
XenguyBurgundavia: clamav seems to be the one most folks use05:07
aliok05:08
alii will try Lao05:08
Laothere's two near my place in New Jersey, and I'm trying to start one.05:08
BurgundaviaXenguy: have you used aegis?05:08
MadpilotVylar1978, sudo should keep your pw for about 5 or 10 minutes, each time you use it05:08
aligood luck Lao05:08
XenguyBurgundavia: heh - I've used neither ;-)05:08
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LaoAli: good luck man don't loose faith =-)05:08
Toma-Vylar1978, like Madpilot said, but if you open another terminal, youll need to enter sudo password again05:08
wertherok, I'm trying to get ssh port tunneling to work...I'm on a box behind a firewall, and I have a server...I want the server to forward a port to my box05:08
XenguyVylar1978: if the operation needs 'root access', then you'll be prompted for your password05:08
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Toma-in the new terminal05:08
_adubwhat is the latest kernel i can apt-get install05:09
wertherI tried "ssh -R 8080:localhost:8080 username@myserver"...but I get a connection refused05:09
XenguyVylar1978: easiest is just to sudo once with 'sudo -i'05:09
Madpilot_adub, I've already answered that question for you - you'll get a notification on the desktop of updates...05:09
Laoanyone know how I can get the latest version of Firefox... it's not considered "stable" yet, but I want it05:09
_adubeven in kde05:09
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Madpilot_adub, as far as I know, yes - but ask in #kubuntu05:10
Crshmanwhich is the best wifi manager for ubuntu? there are a few to choose from; wifi-radar, network-manager, gtk wifi.....05:10
Vylar1978 ok I will brb and see what I can come up with05:10
_adubmadpilot what kernel are you running05:10
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LaoCrshman: im using wifi radar and its amazing05:10
KrillancelloSo can anyone help me fix my X server?05:10
Madpilot_adub, 2.6.12-10-k705:10
CineFX3D_" If you want to be able to right-click on the desktop or a folder to open the terminal, install nautilus-open-terminal (sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal)" - but I don't see it in right click :/05:10
naliothLao: developer.mozilla.com05:10
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XenguyCineFX3D_: you may have to login again05:11
V4Vendettausted consigui escalfar ese castor salvaje05:11
Toma-ubotu, tell Lao about ff1.505:11
XenguyCineFX3D_: it does work tho05:11
CineFX3D_thanks05:11
MadpilotCineFX3D_, try closing & restarting nautilus05:11
CrshmanLao: ok i'll try that one05:11
nalioth!es05:11
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:11
LaoHEY nalioth, thanks for the help with my wifi card its running like a champ now05:11
XenguyCineFX3D_: what Madpilot said05:11
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V4Vendettanalioth~ i speak english :-P05:11
naliothLao: any time05:11
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_adubis there a later kernel i can apt-get install05:11
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_adubfrom the main repositories05:12
naliothV4Vendetta: then while in #ubuntu, please speak it05:12
Madpilot_adub, there will be when Dapper releases in mid-April05:12
CineFX3D_and it works :)05:12
wertherok, why can I ping my ip address, but not localhost?05:12
endeavormaccan someone help me out. I do not have an Ubuntu distro installed, but a friend of mine does and I'm trying to help him get python installed. Can someone please do an apt-cache search python and let me know what the name of the package is that he needs to apt-get install?05:12
lgcHello everyone from Mexico! Can anyone help me?05:12
Crshmani'm having an issue with my wireless....it does work, it does connect, i can use the internet....but after about 2 minutes the connections just stop i can't ping, i can't surf nothing....then after another minute or so all returns to normal.....any ideas as this is quite annoying05:12
Toma-2.6.10 is in the repos... i think05:12
cozbyhey got an install issue, im trying to install Xubuntu (the XFCE way) , i'm following the guide on the website, but it goes downhill after i run sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop , it tells me to insert the disk labled 5.10_breezy badger_ ?05:12
CineFX3D_now if I could only find original wallpaper from hoary..the sparkle one.. can't find it anywhere :/05:12
XenguyCineFX3D_: it should be there by default IMHO :p05:12
V4Vendettanalioth~ si :-D05:12
CineFX3D_Xenguy: yes it should!05:12
naliothlgc: try #ubuntu-es05:12
Toma-cozby, have you got your install CD in the drive?05:12
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XenguyCineFX3D_: er, the right-click terminal I mean05:13
cozbyi dont even know what cd thats referring to im guessing the install one.05:13
wertheris lo not setup correctly?05:13
Toma-cozby, u guessed it05:13
cozbyit give me a y/n option, and if i say n - the install aborts?05:13
slartibartfasthi, can anyone suggest a way to make a completely functional backup from one partition to another?05:13
lgcnalioth, Hello again. My problem isn't English -well, not especially-.05:13
Xenguyslartibartfast: define 'functional' :)05:13
Toma-cozby, you can remove the cd repo from your sources.list and then apt-get update05:13
elaverickAnyone able to help me with a hanging install?05:13
marcWhat is the program in Ubuntu that installs software directly from the net ???05:13
Madpilotlgc, if you just ask your question, someone might be able to help you...05:14
Crshmanapt-get?05:14
Toma-just make sure main is enabled in sources.list05:14
slartibartfastXenguy: Bootable05:14
intelikeyok problem with cups on 5.4 ubuntu    user starts a print job with too few sheets of paper  the printer automatically pauses,  but now the user can not continue the printing and must call the sysadmin.   what's the "prefered" sulution ?05:14
cozbyomg, im a idiot,all this timei thought the cd was int here05:14
BoelckeCozby, I installed xfce4 with synaptec, worked OK...05:14
Madpilotmarc, apt-get (Synaptic is the graphical one)05:14
wertheris default install supposed to be able to ping localhost?05:14
cozbysorry05:14
endeavormaci would really appreciate some help05:14
Toma-marc, synaptic05:14
cozbyim a moron05:14
werther(or do anything with localhost...)05:14
cozbyno wonder it wasn't working. i just realized i took it out after reboot05:14
Toma-werther, if you have lo running, yes05:14
marcwere do i get it05:14
Toma-cozby, teehehehe :D05:14
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wertherToma-, weird...would rebooting possibly help?05:14
cozby;) wow im a total ass05:15
cozbyhaha05:15
Toma-marc, its installed by default. System > Admin > Synaptic05:15
Boelckemarc, System, Administration, Synaptec Package Manager05:15
Toma-werther, yes.05:15
wertherbrb05:15
Xenguyslartibartfast: hrm, I bet it is doable, but probably requires some tricks (I can't say how offhand)05:15
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marcok thx05:15
eth0hi, could anyone tell me what package i need to install to develope in c? i already have build-essential, but that's not enough, i dont even have header files like conio.h and stuff05:15
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lgcMadpilot, it's an easy one now: What is what I have to install to have the C  (and C++) manuals online?05:15
RollyWanybody know if dvd shrink is available for linux?05:15
slartibartfastXenguy: thanks I was hoping there would be something easier than dd05:15
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Madpilotlgc, I'm the wrong person to ask for that - I'm not a programmer05:16
fatbrainHow can I re-install GRUB ?05:16
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Extreme_UnctionHeh, "Type in make and pray"05:16
Toma-eth0, get the package "apt-file" then run "apt-file search conio.h", itll tell you what packages you need specifically05:16
intelikeyfatbrain sudo grub-install /dev/hda05:16
Toma-RollyW, yep. look up PLF05:16
Crshmanwhat is defined as an RX error? \(obviously RX = recieve)05:16
Toma-!plf05:16
fatbrainintelikey: thanks05:16
ubotuwell, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc05:16
Toma-there u go05:17
intelikeyok problem with cups on 5.4 ubuntu    user starts a print job with too few sheets of paper  the printer automatically pauses,  but now the user can not continue the printing and must call the sysadmin.   what's the "prefered" sulution ?05:17
naliothlgc: search in synaptic, the docs for what you seek are there05:17
eth0toma: ok, thanks, ill give it a shot05:17
Laowell I'm off see you folks later05:17
Toma-eth0, np :) good luck05:17
gleesondhow do I turn off my NIC before installing the driver05:17
Laogood luck everyone05:17
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endeavormacIs there a website which lists the Ubuntu apt packages?05:17
tritiumintelikey: that looks exactly like a problem someone was having a minute ago...oh, wait...that was you05:17
naliothendeavormac: packages.ubuntu.com05:17
Madpilotendeavormac, packages.ubuntu.com05:17
Xenguygleesond: ifdown eth0  ?05:17
endeavormacok, thank you05:17
Toma-intelikey, theres no resume button on the printer?05:18
intelikeyyes tritium that was a repost.05:18
tritiumintelikey: I'm just giving you a hard time ;)05:18
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Toma-intelikey, ur IRC'ing as root?05:18
Extreme_UnctionROOT HIM!105:18
intelikeyToma- there is a resume button on the ubuntu desktop but it requires root access.       and i'm not root.05:18
lgcMadpilot, thanks. nalioth. What is what I have to fiddle with in synaptic? I have no idea!05:19
gleesondXenguy: my next question is how do I bring it up again?05:19
Toma-whois says otherwise :D05:19
Extreme_UnctionIGC: What do you want from synaptic?05:19
naliothlgc: search for "docs"05:19
Xenguygleesond: ifup eth0  ?05:19
gleesondah05:19
eth0grndlvl: im not registered05:19
gleesondthanks05:19
Toma-intelikey, is the user in the printing group?05:19
intelikeyToma- whois doesn't know everything.05:19
eth0grndlvl: im not sure if it's just header fies05:19
Toma-:P05:19
CineFX3D_which irc client you use in ubuntu guys?05:19
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Toma-intelikey, see if the user is in the lpadmin group05:20
bobbyxchat05:20
bobbyor irssi :)05:20
Toma-CineFX3D_, telnet05:20
Toma-:P05:20
XenguyCineFX3D_: irssi-text (console-based)05:20
MadpilotCineFX3D_, XChat05:20
CineFX3D_;P telnet05:20
bobbyToma-, uber hardc0re ey? :P05:20
elaverickIs it possible to install a full Ubuntu install from inside a minimal install?05:20
intelikeyhmmmm printing group you say.... i'll have to check that, but i think so.   i don't have hands on  atm  just trying to find new ideas on the issue.05:20
eth0grndlvl: i already have libglib05:20
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naliothelaverick: sure it is05:21
La_PaRCaelaverick, yeah, just install the ubuntu-desktop package05:21
eth0toma: didb't work05:21
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Toma-nah i use xchat :(05:21
eth0grndlvl: talk in here05:21
Extreme_UnctionI'm trying to play zsnes and I get "Sound init failed" my default sound is Alsa, what does Zsness use? Can I use aoss to prevent this?05:21
Toma-custom alias's tho :D05:21
marcHow do i get Wine install05:21
Toma-eth0, damn.05:21
elaverickAh right, so if I go for a server install (hopefully that will complete) I can then just apt-get the desktop from there05:21
Toma-have you got source repos enabled in your sources.list?05:21
raghumarc: apt-get install wine05:21
RollyWwhere is the default location for sources.list?05:22
Toma-eth0, ^^^05:22
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Toma-RollyW, /etc/apt/05:22
XenguyRollyW: /etc/apt05:22
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naliothubotu: tell marc about wine05:22
eth0toma: i think so05:22
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intelikeyToma- you think the use would be able to print but not "resume" a print job   because of not being in a group ?     i really hadn't thought of that....05:22
gleesondah05:23
eth0toma: yeah, i have05:23
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eth0is ubuntu just not good for programming or something?05:23
slartibartfastXenguy: I found a writeup on the forums that says05:23
Toma-intelikey, yeh. well the whole sudo thing sounds wack to me. is it a multi-user system this persons on?05:23
naliotheth0: it's as good as any linux distro for that purpose05:23
slartibartfastXenguy: I can simply use tar to compress it all05:23
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intelikeyToma- yes it is05:23
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Toma-eth0, no, its good...05:23
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Xenguyslartibartfast: tar doesn't compress without gzip05:24
Xenguyslartibartfast: but whatever works05:24
slartibartfastXenguy: with gzip of cours05:24
Toma-intelikey, i see. sometimes adding new users dont get all the group prividges as the 1st user gets. :( make sure they are in the correct groups05:24
eth0toma: how do i get started then?05:24
darthbutcherHey.05:24
intelikeyToma- and the sudo setup on that system has no group entries in it,  it's a pretty tight system.05:24
slartibartfastXenguy: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=disk+copy05:24
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Toma-eth0, i dont program sorry :( i wish i could tho...05:25
eth0nalioth: any ideas how to get setup programming in c?05:25
lgcnalioth, I got "documentation" selected. And then I try to double-click on "gcc-3.3-doc", for example. But nothing happens. How should I access to its contents?05:25
Toma-ahh i goto go05:25
intelikeyand yeah Toma- i'll give groups a through going over there.   thanks for the thoughts.05:26
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Toma-np05:26
Toma-cyas05:26
Grndlvleth0 stupid question but you have gcc installed right?05:26
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tritiumeth0: you really want to "sudo apt-get install build-essential"05:26
eth0grn: yeah05:26
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eth0tritium: i already have build-essential05:27
PuMpErNiCkLeeth0: Install 'build-essential', install an IDE (like anjuta, for instance, or just a syntax-aware text editor), and you should be rocking.05:27
tritiumeth0: then what's the problem?05:27
naliotheth0: grab some source code and get to compiling05:27
amynwhen i unpack those codecs for playing my mp3's from winxp mounted partition. Following errors occured: Unpacking w32codecs (from w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb) ...05:27
amyndpkg-deb (subprocess): short read in buffer_copy (failed to write to pipe in copy)05:27
amyndpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 205:27
amyndpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):05:27
amyn short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/win32/LCodcCMP.dll')05:27
amynErrors were encountered while processing:05:27
amyn w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb05:27
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tritiumamyn: stop that05:27
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PuMpErNiCkLeamyn: Don't paste in here, use pastebin.05:27
PuMpErNiCkLe...05:28
Madpilot!pastebin05:28
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)05:28
Xenguyslartibartfast: looks like a decent thread05:28
RollyWwhen i add repositories, i need to refresh or something, correct?05:28
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tritiumyes, RollyW05:28
eth0im trying to compile, but i get missing header files and other things05:28
intelikeyeth0 dpkg -l build-essential   and make sure that it is not broken or partially installed.05:28
RollyWis ti just "sudo apt-get refresh"?05:28
tritiumeth0: then you've not installed the -dev libraries that you need05:28
tritiumRollyW: sudo apt-get update05:28
RollyWkk, cool. thanks05:28
eth0tritium: what are the libraries called?05:28
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naliotheth0: what are you trying to compile05:28
tritiumeth0: you tell me.  What are you compiling?  What libs does it need?05:29
naliothamyn: please use a pastebin to paste things05:29
amynsorry for that05:29
eth0it needs conio.j and stdio.h05:29
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eth0it's just a simple program05:29
amyncan someone pls help me in those errors ?05:29
jrsimshey, I installed ubuntu server and fluxbox. How do I install X?05:29
naliothjrsims: installing flux, should have installed X05:30
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jrsimsnalioth: install x first?05:30
amynnalioth, i forgot the url05:30
naliothjrsims: you said you 'installed' fluxbox or are goin to install it05:30
RollyWdoes the deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free not include dvdshrink?05:30
PuMpErNiCkLeeth0: You may need to manually specify the locations of those files.  I think it's the -L option for gcc, but it's been awhile since I've used that.05:30
Xenguyeth0: someone already suggesting using apt-file to locate appropriate packages for the files you want05:30
intelikeyamyn  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/packages/*.deb     and try again   ?05:30
jrsimsnalioth: got fluxbox from apt-get, now it says I need to install x. startx doesn't work.05:30
Grndlvleth0 not much with the c programming on nix but can you not install the cstdio library?05:30
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naliothjrsims: install xserver-xorg or x-windows-system05:31
eth0xenguy: i did but the search came up with nothing05:31
jrsimsnalioth: are they the same?05:31
eth0i've searched my whole hd for conio.h but it's non-existent05:31
naliothjrsims: one will get you more goodies05:31
publichey i have a couple of ubuntu boxes behind an ubuntu dhcp server.  for some reason it will give them ip's but it wont set their default route. how do i get it to do that (so i dont have to do route add default gw <my network> on every machine every time i boot one up) ?05:31
jrsimsnalioth: which is that? I'm trying to keep things light.05:32
amynintelikey, rm: cannot remove `/var/cache/apt/packages/*.deb': No such file or directory05:32
naliothjrsims: both will keep you 'light'05:32
jrsimsnalioth: so which do you recommend?05:32
Xenguyeth0: I see what you mean...05:32
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intelikeyamyn well find the correct directory name with the tab key :)05:33
amynnalioth, what is the url of pastebin ?05:33
publicno one knows?05:33
Xenguyeth0: there must be a good HOWTO out there somewhere (IANAP BTW)05:33
tritiumamyn: see the topic05:33
naliothubotu: tell amyn about paste05:33
Xenguyamyn: /topic05:33
eth0xenguy: i've looked already05:33
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intelikeyamyn  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/[tab] [tab] <type the correct dir>/*.deb     and try again   ?05:33
eth0bah i hope i dont have to go back to slack again05:34
amynok05:34
eth0:((05:34
eth0i was fiddling around with glib a few days back, could that be the cause of it?05:34
eth0i mean i updated the bog standard glib05:34
bestadvocateHey, I'm looking for some advice,  I am currently running i386 Ubuntu on my AMD64, I'd like to switch but I use my computer primarally as a Media Player.  I read on the Restricted Formats page that VServer and dchroot were reccomended ways to install win32codecs.  Which of these is better?  Is there a page that describes the next step after installing the programs?05:34
eth0but it didn't work out to well05:35
intelikeyeth0 no you don't have to go back to slackware  use gentoo   hehheh05:35
jrsimsnalioth: so which do you recommend?05:35
eth0why gentoo?05:35
naliothbestadvocate: if you are running the i386 kernel, you are fine, no chroot needed05:35
amynintelikey, root@amin:/home/amin# sudo rm /var/cache/apt/05:35
naliothjrsims: one or the other05:35
amynarchives/        pkgcache.bin     srcpkgcache.bin05:35
frank23bestadvocate: as a fellow amd64 owner, I suggest you stick with the i386 version05:35
jrsimsnalioth: well, which gets me all the extra goodies - and what are these goodies?05:35
intelikeyarchives amyn05:35
frank23bestadvocate: you can use the k7 kernel though05:35
eth0cant even frigging program in this one05:35
naliothjrsims: believe me, they won't bulk up the system. i'm surprised installing fluxbox didnt pull in the xserver05:36
Wammy|anyone willing to help me get the soundcard on this laptop working? been trying for the past 2 days. I am willing to pay. i just need it working.05:36
tritiumapt-get clean is preferable to removing the directory and its contents manually05:36
jrsimsnalioth: k. thanks!05:36
naliotheth0: you can program fine. you CAN'T find the files you're looking for05:36
intelikey    amyn      archives   packages   what's the differance....  lol05:36
Grndlvleth0 tried installing g++ because the library you are using is c++ not c05:36
jrsimsQUERY! In IRSSI, Is there a quick way to go to the command line without quitting?05:36
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eth0grndlvl: it's definitely for c05:37
bestadvocatefrank23: I think I will continue doing so, documentation and support are all a lot better on i386 unfortunately.05:37
naliothjrsims: run irssi in a screen session05:37
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ubuntu_newbiejrsims, can you CTRL-Z to get to the command line, then 'fg 1' to get back?05:37
naliothubuntu_newbie: no  no no05:37
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naliothjrsims: no don't do it05:37
amynintelikey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/965605:37
jrsimsI know. I 'm nit05:37
jrsimsnot05:37
naliothjrsims: ctrl-z hard quits irssi05:37
Grndlvlsorry nver messed w/ c b405:37
goemaat_ubuntuHmm...  CTRL-Z worked for me05:37
_jasonjrsims: you can run quick commands with /exec too05:37
intelikeyamyn looking05:37
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naliothjrsims: learn 'gnu screen'05:38
goemaat_ubuntumaybe if you stay out long enough CTRL-Z quits I guess...05:38
jrsimsKinda like in vim, I can run :sh to get to the shell, then "exit" to return to vim05:38
publichey i have a couple of ubuntu boxes behind an ubuntu dhcp server.  for some reason it will give them ip's but it wont set their default route. how do i get it to do that (so i dont have to do route add default gw <my network> on every machine every time i boot one up) ? i think it's a problem with the server right?05:38
naliothmy ctrl-z immediatly hard stops my irssi. leaving a ghost on the network05:38
SuShI-X2I'm getting this debootstrap error when I'm trying to install the base package.  Any ideas?05:39
frank23bestadvocate: since you're using the i386 version of ubuntu, all that i386 stuff applies to you too.05:39
frank23bestadvocate: the AMD64 version of ubuntu is different (another CD)  only AMD64 processors can run that one05:39
fn_i want install ubuntu on many pcs, should it done one by one or is there a better way ?05:40
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fn_like norton ghost thing05:40
intelikeyamyn you need to re-download the package w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb      (short read)     means it ran out of data.05:40
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frank23bestadvocate: the chroot stuff is for running 32bit programs on the AMD64 version of Ubuntu05:41
bestadvocatefrank23 yes I know, I was considering using the AMD64 compiled version.  (everything is already working on this install, but I need to re-install anyway and was considering a switch in versions. perhaps next year)05:41
Dr_Willisfn_,  could install to one, then use mondo/mindi to make a backup/restore cd set05:41
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Xenguyeth0: FWIW, here's a link I came across; it may or may not be remotely useful :-)  http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/introdeveloperdocs-0510121817/introdeveloperdocs-0.05/IntroDeveloperDoc_v0.05.pdf05:41
odathi everyone05:41
eth0hmm, i think it's just using that conio.h when there is a problem, it understands all the others05:41
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frank23bestadvocate: yeah, I'm not going to switch until installing a i386 program can be done completely transparently. I don't know how long that will take05:42
fn_really ?? ok then.. i ll read the manual first05:42
odati have installed ubuntu twice on the same machine each time when the installation is done and it needs to reboot i get a grub error 2     error05:42
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fn_thanks Dr_Willis05:42
intelikeyamyn i see that you are installing with dpkg   i should have paid a little closer attention,   but the error is the same.    the archive / package  is incomplete.   get a new one.05:42
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jerrodhow do i upgrade to flash v8 in mozilla?05:42
naliothbestadvocate: stay with an x86 arch05:42
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frank23jerrod: macromedia never released flash 8 for linux05:42
amynintelikey,  in short what ive to do now ?05:42
intelikeyre-download05:43
eth0xenguy: thanks :)05:43
holy_cowhttp://it.slashdot.org/it/06/03/03/004215.shtml  <-- anyone try this yet in a windows channel?05:43
holy_cowhehe05:43
Xenguyeth0: HTH :-)05:44
amyni also unpacked sudo dpkg -i realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb it got installed successfully but when i right click 'open with' for a mp3 song i cant see realplayer in the 'open with' list05:44
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eth0grndlvl: are u sure conio.h is c++ and not c?05:44
odati have installed ubuntu twice on the same machine each time when the installation is done and it needs to reboot i get a grub error 205:44
_jasonjerrod: macromedia has not released 8 for linux afaik05:44
dolsondoes anyone know of a really simple app like Thoggen but for another format, such as XviD or MPEG?05:44
goemaatCan someone tell me where to get w32codecs for breezy?  I can't seem to find it anywhere...05:45
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ithielhi05:45
_jasonubotu: tell goemaat about w32codecs05:45
jerroddangit! thanx guys05:45
sol1I'm getting a 2.6.15 kernel onto an ubuntu install cd.05:45
intelikeyamyn that may require restarting gnome before it will show up    idk.05:45
sol1I've got everything working fine on a vanilla kernel.05:45
Dr_Willisgoemaat,  i normally go to the mplayer homepage and get the latest :P some times its a little more up to date.05:45
sol1Just, no /dev/rd/005:45
sol1Does anyone know what provides a /dev/rd/0 node?05:45
intelikeysol1 udev05:46
CineFX3D_sudo smbpasswd -a `whoami` ..what does this do? I installed samba.. can this line work?05:46
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intelikeysol1 udev  devfs   or  MAKEDEV05:46
amynintelikey,  which pakage is suitable for ubuntu of videolan :- Mandrake,Debian/Linux,Fedora... which 1 shall i select ? http://www.videolan.org/vlc/05:46
naliothamyn: vlc is in the repos05:46
tritiumamyn: ubuntu packages05:46
frank23amyn: you can use synaptic to install vlc05:47
intelikeyamyn did you read the messages form ubotu ?05:47
sol1intelikey: I mean't the kernel module.05:47
sol1Do you know if it's just initrd?05:47
odatwill regular ubuntu install and work on a 64 bit machine?05:47
amynintelikey, yes i did05:47
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CineFX3D_how can I restart samba?05:47
naliothodat: there are 64bit ubuntu installs05:47
tritiumCineFX3D_: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart05:47
SuShI-X2I'm getting this debootstrap error when I'm trying to install the base package.  Any ideas?05:47
intelikeyamyn did you read the wiki links that ubotu sent ?05:47
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odatnalioth, yea i know but i am trying to track down an error05:48
rsyncxugh with exim autogenerated stuff. local_domainsDEBCONF is being ignored05:48
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odatnalioth, i have a machine with 2 2.6 xeon processors in it and i have installed ubuntu twice on the same machine each time when the installation is done and it needs to reboot i get a grub error 205:48
rsyncxi am trying to generate a file but it just plainly ignores the config file and sets it to localhost.localdomain05:48
rsyncxfor exim405:48
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naliothodat: wow, is that on some rare hardware?05:49
amynintelikey, ive downloaded that .deb file thrice05:49
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odatnalioth, i don't believe so there is one thing that is weird though when i install it shows to scsi drives but i know they are ide drives05:49
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naliothodat: you may need to ask in #grub05:50
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intelikeyamyn i'm sorry.    all i have to go on is the error message.  (short read) aka out of data  ?05:51
co-bandrara05:52
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amynnow when i open synaptic package installer it gave me these errors on starting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/965705:52
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rsyncxdoes this update-exim4.conf suppose to work wholeheartedly or just sometimes?05:52
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rsyncxseems like it is broken05:52
rsyncxor i am missing something05:52
knitedo you guys know if there's a partition tool built into the install process of ubuntu?05:52
intelikeyamyn how did you dl that file ?     cause if you use ff it probably only dled it one time and then used it's cache each consecutive time.    get the url and do a  wget -c <url>05:52
knitei.e.  can someone resize an NTFS partition?05:53
Englaamyn: hit the reload button05:53
rsyncxsetting dc_local_domains variable, but it is just being ignored.05:53
el_verdehow does the identify thing work?05:53
rsyncxanyone running exim here?05:53
naliothknite: yes, there is. it's called partman05:53
naliothknite: yes, ntfs resizing works well05:53
naliothel_verde: /msg nickserv help register05:54
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knitenalioth: integrated into the install process?05:54
intelikeyknite  yes   but i sujest you shrink your partition with winxp's tool  and just leave unallocated space for your ub install.05:54
naliothamyn: run 'check for new packages'05:54
kniteintelikey: oh, i didn't know you can shrink partition in winxp itself05:54
naliothknite: you cannot.05:54
naliothknite: not w/o losing a partition05:55
amynnalioth, ive already hitted reload as Engla said05:55
naliothamyn: that should fix you up.05:55
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amynintelikey, what is the use of -c in wgetting ?05:56
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intelikeyi don't have winxp  but i understood that it had a partitioning tool that could resize it's ntfs partitions.05:57
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intelikeyamyn -c continue      i.e. if you have part of the file keep that part and get the rest.05:57
naliothintelikey: it's destructive resizing05:57
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naliothamyn: -c 'continues' where the process stopped, if necessary05:58
amynError: Could not download all repro http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages - open (2 No such file or directory)05:58
naliothamyn: run your update again05:58
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=== biovore reads man pages all the time (RTFMP -- Read the F&*% Man Page) :-P
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intelikeynalioth you mean to tell me that M$ has not gotten past that yet......     damn !    that's really sad.05:58
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perry753whats the latest Ubuntu kernel released?05:59
biovorekinda light today.. only 637 users in here..05:59
babo_what's the story with the firefox spellchecker ? I have version 1.5.0.1 of firefox but the spell checker won't install ?05:59
babo_ It doesn't give me any error, it just disappears from the screen. I'm installing the version for mozilla 1.5 so it should be o05:59
babo_Yes, I have asked over at #firefox05:59
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co-bandhallloooooooo.....06:00
amynnalioth, did u mean to hit the Reload Button again ?06:00
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naliothamyn: yes, do that pleaes06:00
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babo_Does anyone know of a good spell checker that I can use for html and web pages. I have about 4 different ones in various apps, but none of them work unfortunately06:00
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amynnalioth, yea done. NO ERRORS ATLAST lol. now how to installl VLC ?06:01
Xenguybabo_: does 'aspell' not work?06:01
naliothamyn: search it out, select and install it06:01
amyndo i select those plugins of VLC as-well ?06:01
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intelikeydo i have server messages ?06:01
co-bandhai......06:01
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CineFX3D_how can I restart samba? /etc/rc.d is not there in ubuntu06:01
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naliothamyn: whatever you like06:02
RollyWis amd64 the same as i386?06:02
lgcnalioth, I loaded a bunch of doc packages, but I still can't manage to get the manual of "int", "fprintf" and so on.06:02
XenguyCineFX3D_: in /etc/init.d  ?06:02
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KrillancelloBah.06:02
naliothRollyW: no. i386 is for 32bit chips. amd64 is for 64bit chips (amd or intel)06:02
KrillancelloGnome won't start properly now.06:02
CineFX3D_Xenguy: nah, can't find smb there06:03
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babo_Xenguy: I was looking at aspell but I didn't install it for some reason ... I don't think they have a version for 1.5, but I'll check again ... thanks06:03
CineFX3D_I used to do /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart06:03
intelikeynalioth you'll have to clue me in as to what you were referring to....   i see server messages scroll by along with channel messages  ?06:03
fomponis there a way to export email from thunderbird to evolution?06:03
RollyWwill i386 run amd64 chips in 32 but mode?06:03
RollyW*bit06:03
naliothRollyW: correct06:04
Xenguybabo_: sure.  Use the -H option for HTML06:04
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Xenguybabo_: you can do tricks like: lynx -source http://some/url.html |aspell -H06:05
naliothXenguy: the console is great that way, ain't it?06:05
amynwhen i marked vlc for installation. It's saying Mark Additional Requirement Changes libdvbpsi3 and libtar. Shall I select Mark , nalioth ?06:05
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naliothamyn: yes, you should.06:06
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Xenguynalioth: the cli is our friend :-)06:06
babo_Xenguy: ok, so I have aspell installed ... can I use it from the firefox gui ? I can't see any tool tab ?06:06
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lgcnalioth, HELP, don't ignore me!06:07
amynnalioth, it says ' Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade' details: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/965806:07
Xenguybabo_: re FF: no idea about that particular combination06:07
jrattner1How can I accept a Windows Xp "help inviation" and connect to the system06:07
intelikeyaspell ispell pspell myspell06:07
Xenguybabo_: perhaps there is an extension (I really don't know for sure)06:07
rsyncxshit exim4 reconfigure is broken06:07
babo_Xenguy: hmmm ... but it's a firefox add in right ? It would only make sense that you could use it from the gui, since firefox usually isn't a cli program ?  ... anyway cool, I'll go and find out - thanks06:08
gleesondwhat file do I configure to give my computer a static IP06:08
rsyncxby standard local_domains must be taken from conf file but it is just being created on the fly by the script from 'localhost'06:08
rsyncxand other ones/.06:08
naliothlgc: you haven't said anything06:09
naliothamyn: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin please06:09
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lgcnalioth, I did. I told you that I just installed a bunch of doc packages. But I still can't make the good old "man fprintf" work. Any ideas?06:10
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ubuntuhi06:10
jrattner1How can I access a windows RAInvitation.msrcincident from linux?06:10
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orangedcheers06:10
naliothlgc: browse to /usr/share/docs/06:10
ubuntuwho says "cheers"?06:11
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orangedcan someone give me a hand troubleshooting a python error with smeg?06:11
intelikeylgc http://tldp.org06:11
ubuntuSorry, I didn't change my user name06:11
lgcnalioth, There's no such directory06:11
amynnalioth, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/965906:11
intelikeylgc http://tldp.org06:11
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jrsimsI've installed xorg, but I can't run startx. Help!06:12
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naliothlgc: if you don't have /usr/share/doc  you are in big trouble06:12
bebethhi06:13
naliothubotu: tell jrsims about xcfg06:13
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intelikeyamyn i see multi-lines for universe.  no main06:13
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lgcnalioth, why? I have /usr/share/doc. intelikey I'm looking at the page. Thanks.06:13
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RollyWdoes ubuntu auto detect and install hardware drivers... becuse i suspect that my video card isnt doing everything it should?06:14
naliothlgc: in that directory is all the docs you have installed06:14
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amynintelikey, what does that mean ?06:14
PuMpErNiCkLeRollyW: It tries to auto-detect, and it installs/configures teh open source drivers.  You may be able to get better performance from the official vendor-made ones.06:14
bebethhi zibby!06:14
amynintelikey, and what's wrong with that ?06:14
RollyWdo they support linux driverS?06:14
naliothubotu: tell amyn about easysource06:14
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naliothamyn: use that page for a good sources.list06:15
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PuMpErNiCkLeRollyW: Some more than others.  nVidia provides excellent linux drivers, ATI not so much.06:15
maltHello how would i add a ftp user in proftpd? i was reading howto and it said this setting for doing ftp user account is set in /etc/passwd what would i put in passwd to make a ftp user account for directory /var/www/06:15
Xenguybabo_: aspell is a generic cli spellchecker (I didn't know you were specifically looking for FF tool)06:15
lgcnalioth, you mean they went to never-never land?06:15
RollyWdamn. so likely my x800 wont work as well under linux?06:15
naliothlgc: i have several hundred folders in my /usr/share/doc, each corresponding to a program or way to do things06:16
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sagarpwhen i plug in a usb device and dmesg says something like "using address 4" how can i access it? where is it created in /dev?06:16
babo_Xenguy: anything that would let me check the spelling on my websites would be perfect.06:16
PuMpErNiCkLeRollyW: Probably not.  You should see an increase in performance from switching to the official ATI drivers, but it won't be spectacular.06:16
Spudchatmalt: proftpd uses allready existing user accounts on the machine..so the password is the same as the account06:16
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Xenguybabo_: here's one way :-)  'lynx -source http://some/url.html |aspell --lang="en" -H list'06:17
Xenguybabo_: cli, no quotes06:17
RollyWbecause. the issues im having are with dvd's. The video seems gorssly off the audio, and most of the time it doesnt even render propely. Closes itself at certain scene switches. Also, Tux racing lags :P06:17
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RollyW*grossly06:17
lgcnalioth, I swear I haven't messed with that directory. I even have access to countless man pages. Except those of C functions.06:17
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Spudchatif you want to change the user name that logs in try : useralias useronmachine usernameyouwant06:17
naliothubotu: tell RollyW about dma06:17
maltoh nice i see now thanks Spudchat <306:18
Xenguybabo_: there may be easier ways06:18
babo_Xenguy: cool, one of my machines is a windoze box though ...06:18
naliothlgc: /usr/share/docs has your docs.06:18
maltIm new to linux so im sorry if i ask stupid questions :/06:18
Xenguybabo_: and this is #ubuntu right? :-)06:18
naliothmalt: the only stupid question is the one you DON'T ask06:18
babo_Xenguy: I said one of my machines was windoze ... your solution will work fine on the ubuntu machine I'm using at the moment.06:19
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intelikeyreally ?06:19
Xenguy!beer malt06:19
ubotuXenguy: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:19
ubuntushit06:19
Xenguybah06:19
ubuntushit06:19
fomponwhats a good binary usenet client?06:19
naliothfompon: pan06:19
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ubuntufucke06:19
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Spudchatmalt, also though i cant find the exact link right now http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page has a good howto on setting up proftpd06:19
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dliafter installation, how do I allow upgrading from network?06:20
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fomponnalioth: thanks06:20
naliothdli: your system will automatically check for updates, and let you know about them06:20
Keyframehow can I access windows box from linux? I have samba on ubuntu and I can access ubuntu box on windows..but not the way around?06:20
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gleesondcan someone tell me where the rc.conf lives?06:20
fomponnalioth: you wouldnt happen to know of any quickpar-like par2 program would you?06:20
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dlinalioth, I'm using apt-cdrom right?06:20
SpudchatKeyframe, if you want to use remote desktop try rdesktop06:20
dlinalioth, and the system will auto do sources.list?06:21
intelikeygleesond i don't think there is one.06:21
FlannelKingSpudchat: he was talking about through samba, I think.06:21
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naliothfompon: sure i do. use par206:21
intelikeygleesond /etc06:21
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naliothdli: if you have no network you need not worry about network updates, if you do have network, see above statement06:21
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Spudchatallright hang on06:22
gleesondintelikey: i didn't see one in /etc06:22
dlinalioth, I just configured network06:22
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KeyframeSpudchat: but I have samba working like this.. I can see linux box in windows.. I wish to mount somehow windows box in linux.. do I need samba on windows also or I need to make my Linux samba PDC and log windows onto it?06:22
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Dr_Williswindows06:22
naliothdli: then your system will keep you informed06:23
Dr_Williswindows's networn neighborhood stuff is their 'samba' :P06:23
gleesondcan anyone tell me how to set up a static up for my box06:23
Keyframe:P06:23
Keyframeseriously now :)06:23
dlinalioth, if I apt-get install foo, the system will look up from network also?06:23
Dr_WillisKeyframe,  it may just be easier to use ssh and 'winscp' under linux.06:23
naliothdli: yes, it should.06:23
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naliothubotu: tell dli about repos06:23
FlannelKinggleesond: you're using ubuntu? kubuntu? no GUI?06:23
SpudchatKeyframe, im sorry but thats more than i know about samba06:23
Dr_WillisKeyframe,  but samba is doable.  just may take a little reading and tweaking.06:23
gleesondkubuntu06:24
naliothdli: read waht the bot says, and enable universe and multiverse repositories06:24
gleesondbut I don't use the GUI very much06:24
Spudchatwait, did you try smb://windowsmachineiphere ?06:24
Jambonis the mozilla version of firefox any faster than the one in dapper?06:24
KeyframeDr_Willis: Yea says I need to make PDC or something..bleh.. can't it work both ways since it works this way.. damn06:24
lgcnalioth, I was wrong. The info was in "doc" and not "docs". Hee-Ho! (I'm an ass****)! But still, I still can't see it clear, how I make my damn online C manuals work (excuse my naive impatience).06:24
Dr_WillisKeyframe,  hmm.. i never messed with PDC stuff..06:24
dlinalioth, thanks, the howto is clear now06:25
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naliothlgc: you have three types of manual on your box  1) man  2) info and 3) the /usr/share/doc directory06:25
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gleesondfalse alarm, my box already has a static ip06:25
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lgcnalioth, I suppose the first 2 read from the last one...06:26
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nalioth_zZzlgc: nope, they all have their own sources.06:27
janno!deb06:27
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)06:27
Vylar1978if your mouse locks up on you to were it won't move how do you shut down the computer by key command06:27
SpudchatVylar1978, ctrl + alt + backspace restarts the desktop interface06:28
Spudchatmaybe that will fix it?06:28
dliVylar1978, or Ctl-Alt-F106:28
Vylar1978thanks06:29
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lgcnalioth_zZz, you are right. Yet I still can get what I want from "info" ("info fprintf" or "info int" still don't work).06:30
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majdhey, i get a NAT error when i test port 47715 in Azureus, i'm behind a linksys router...what port should i use?06:33
_jasonlgc: I think manpages-dev provide that06:33
clever`revyou just have to open the port azurues is told to use06:33
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Dr_Willismajd,  several ports should be forwarded i belive.. the azurues homepage/docs/help mention them06:33
unpersonI'm trying to burn an ISO onto a CD-R.  The ISO image is 695 MB and the disc says it is a 700 MB disc.  I selected the ISO image in nautilus and "write to disc", but I just keep getting a message telling me to insert a blank disc with at least 695 MB free.06:34
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unpersonHow do I get this to work correctly?06:35
Dr_Willisunperson,  could be the disk is bad.. or it dsome how is not seeing the disk change06:35
lgc_jason, thanks. Let me try that.06:35
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unpersonDr_Willis, You mean it's not seeing me put the disc in?  I think it is, because when I put the blank disk in it pops up on the desktop and the CD/DVD creator pops up.06:36
sixslapwould some one please me how to login as root and how to edit my identd.conf06:36
Xenguysixslap: sudo -i06:36
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sixslapok06:37
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Xenguysixslap: then you need an editor06:37
unpersonThere's also a burn data CD option when the CD/DVD creator dialog, but I'm not sure whether that will burn the ISO image or an ISO image of a filesystem containing the ISO image.06:37
majdDr_Willis, i have my router set to allow ports 6881->6890 open for Azureus06:37
sixslapi have a editor06:37
dstryrhow come i just installed nvidia driver and x still wont start?06:37
sixslapjust din't know how to login as rrot06:37
sixslaproot*06:37
sixslap<-----verb06:38
intelikeysixslap  sudo -i    will get you a root shell.06:38
sixslapty06:38
Dr_Willismajd,  i twiddled and set up several ports - i was thinking the azurus docs/tips had links to sites with the exact info. a router with that upnp stuff helps as well06:38
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sixslapone more question06:38
intelikeyooops...... i think i'm detached from the server....06:38
sixslapdo you have to allow server attemps for identd to work properly06:39
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lgc_jason, bingo! Got it. Thanks! (I still don't get any manual for "int", though). Any clue?06:40
unpersonOk, if I select "Burn Data CD" when the CD/DVD creator dialog comes up, can I just drag the ISO image file to the window and then select "Burn to Disc"?06:40
_aminive succefully installed those win32 codex*.deb and vlc from synaptic. Now how do i use them ? vlc is not yet appeared in Apllications tab on the top left06:40
Dr_Willis_amin,  run 'vlc' from the command line.06:40
jrattner1How do I accept a Microsoft help invitation inlinux06:40
Dr_Willisunperson,  that may just copy the iso image to the disk.. not what you want.06:41
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unpersonDr_Willis, Yes, that was my fear.06:41
knitejrattner1: uhh...  maybe use remote desktop instead?06:41
cozbystrange why would ubuntu ship with an ol version of FireFox06:41
cozbyhow do i update packages06:41
cozby?06:41
_aminDr_Willis, root@amin:/home/amin# vlc06:41
_aminbash: vlc: command not found06:41
Dr_Willisunperson,  i perfer to use k3b06:41
jrattner1knite, but the invitation is a file06:41
_jasonlgc: I don't get anything for int (I get something but not what you want) so I don't know06:41
knitecozby: synaptic06:41
dstryrok, what is libncurses5-dev?06:41
dstryranyone06:42
dstryr?06:42
FlannelKingunperson: usually if your software supports ISO burning, it'll ask if you want to burn the ISO, or just copy th ISO file to the disk.06:42
Dr_Willis_amin,  dont run it as root for one. :P06:42
cozbysynaptic eh, just apt get it06:42
_aminDr_Willis, do you think ive to restart my box ?06:42
ratleycozby, do you just want to update firefox, or everything?06:42
Dr_Willis_amin,  no.. just logout/in as a user.06:42
knitecozby: setup your sources file then06:42
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Extreme_UnctionAnyone wanna netplay some Contra 3 on Zsnes?06:42
sixslaphey i know that one                 sudo apt-get update06:42
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cozbyratley, everything would be nice06:42
sixslapyay i'm lerning!!!!06:43
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FlannelKingdstryr: it's the development stuff for ncurses (version 5)06:43
cozbybut for now i just need FF updated06:43
_aminok brb06:43
Xenguydstryr: also needed for 'make menuconfig' IIRC06:43
lgc_jason. "int" is a C function, as far as I know. But it seems to be the only one missing. Many thanks. Are you available for another consultation?06:44
unpersonFlannelKing, Right, this does not seem to ask any such thing.06:44
ratleycozby, are you running breezy?06:44
_jasonlgc: sure, just ask the channel though and I'll answer if I know06:44
dstryrwould installing this can cause why X wont start?06:44
unpersonDr_Willis, Know of any k3b equivalent for Gnome offhand?06:44
unpersonWhat about X-CD-Roast?06:44
cozbyratley yup06:45
Xenguydstryr: no06:45
knitedstryr: no, installing libncurses should not affect X06:45
lgc_jason, excuse my ignorance. How do I do that?06:45
Dr_Willisunperson,  nope.. ya could always learn how to use the 'cdrecord' command line tool06:45
cozbyjeese synaptic doesn't even give firefox an update option06:45
Dr_Willisunperson,  its not that hard to use.06:45
cozbythats ridiculous06:45
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Extreme_Unctioncdrecord is good, actually!06:45
Extreme_UnctionVery easy to use.06:45
Madpilotunperson, gnomebaker?06:45
Extreme_UnctionIn most cases it's just.. sudo cdrecord whatever.iso06:45
ratleycozby, well, run "sudo apt-get update" without the quotes in a terminal06:46
ratleyand then "sudo apt-get upgrade"06:46
_jasonlgc: you don't preface the question with my name :) (most people just ignore messages addressed to others)06:46
dstryrwhat's the latest gcc compiler?06:46
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cozbyratley06:46
Extreme_Unction4.006:46
cozbyalready did that06:46
ratleyboth of those?06:46
cozbybefore i ran synaptic too06:46
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unpersonExtreme_Unction, Ah.  I thought people seemed to always have all sorts of other options involed and such.06:46
ratleybut you're hoping for firefox 1.5 then?06:46
_jasonlgc: manpages-posix-dev is another package you might want by the way06:46
dstryrhow do i get the 4.0?06:46
cozbyyeah06:46
cozby1.506:46
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Extreme_Unctionsudo apt-get install gcc06:47
Extreme_UnctionI believe it installs 4.006:47
Extreme_UnctionIf not, sudo apt-get install gcc-4.006:47
Extreme_Unctionunperson: There are many options.. Also a blank command.06:47
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dstryrwhat's the diff between sudo apt-get and sudo aptitude install?06:47
zFstartkeylogger06:47
_jasondstryr: install build-essential, it will pull in other stuff you need as well06:47
zF:o06:47
cozbyhm, wait i just did update not upgrade06:47
_jasonzF: not here please06:47
Extreme_UnctionIt's just most of the time you can burn it without any options successfully06:47
zF_jason, sorry... Was just testing :o06:47
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frank_what program do i use to customize the appearance of ubuntu?06:48
dstryrand what is build essential?06:48
_jasonubotu: tell frank_ about themes06:48
lgc_jason, manpages-posix-dev doesn't seem to exist...06:48
_jasonubotu: tell lgc about multiverse06:48
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ratleycozby, run that first to make sure everything is up to date06:48
cozbykk06:49
frank_can somebody tell me how to enable universe'06:49
cozbyjust did06:49
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_jasondstryr: it is a meta-pacakge that installs gcc as well as other things you need to compile successfully.  apt-cache show build-essential, for details06:49
_jasonubotu: tell frank_ about universe06:49
frank_jason thanks06:49
dstryric06:49
cozbywow synaptic is kinda nice06:49
cozbyit'd be better if it worked tho06:49
dstryrcoz this dog wont even compile BitchX06:49
cozbykinda reminds me of QNX package repository06:50
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dstryrkept getting some errors06:50
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cozbyin anycase ff 1.5 is no where to be upgrade dor found?!?06:50
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Xenguydstryr: yes, BX is a dog :p06:50
_jasoncozby: ff1.5 isn't in synaptic because ubuntu makes a stable release every 6 months and provides security updates only06:51
_aminDr_Willis, how to find vlc from terminal ?06:51
_jasonubotu: tell cozby about ff1.506:51
ratley_jason, is it available in breezy backports?06:51
Dr_Willis_amin,  if you installed it. it should be in your default paths06:51
ratleyi'm running dapper and a nightly build...so i honestly have no idea06:51
_jasonratley: nope, too many packages depend on firefox1.07 so it is too difficult to backport without breaking other things06:51
Dr_Willis---> /usr/bin/vlc06:51
ratleyso...easyubuntu or automatix then?06:51
cozbythanks _jason06:52
Xenguy_amin: which vlc06:52
Dr_Willisratley,  EWW!06:52
Dr_Willis:P06:52
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_aminyes i installed it from synaptic. i do not know where synaptic would have installed it ?06:52
ratleyDr_Willis, haha, it would certainly be the "easiest" way06:52
_jasonratley: easyubuntu won't install firefox 1.5.  Automatix installs it using the wiki method and automatix itself is generally not recommended here06:52
_jasonubotu: tell ratley about ff1.506:52
Dr_Willis_amin,  in the normal paths like i just posted. :P06:53
Dr_Willis_amin,  or select the package in synaptic and look at the details.06:53
javiolo_amin maybe you didnt install the gui of vlc06:53
javioloif you install it you will have on the menu06:53
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_aminsecondly, _jason you asked me to download those win32 codecs for Totem to run songs on my mounted xp partitions, ive downloaded and ran those codecs but still i have same error that Totem does not hav particular gstramer codecs06:54
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unpersonTo use cdrecord, I need to know the scsi bus,  target, and lun of the cd drive.  What's the easiet way to determine those?06:54
_jason_amin: did you install totem-xine?06:54
_aminjaviolo, how do i install that gui ?06:54
Dr_Williscdrecord --scanbus06:54
majdwould someone be kind enough to show me how to setup my ports for Azureus? i can't figure it out...i went to 192.168.1.1 and setup 6880 to 7000 for Azureus and enabled it, but when i test port 6890, i get NAT error...i've read the docs...didn't help06:54
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_amin_jason, no i had totem movie player by defualt06:55
_jason_amin: install totem-xine, also what are you trying to play exactly?06:55
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ratleycozby, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion does appear to be the "best" way to install a newer version of firefox06:55
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_amin_jason, a normal mp3 format song06:55
_jasonubotu: tell _amin about mp306:55
majdi also tried setting up the ports from 6881 to 6881 (using BOTH as the protocol) and got the NAT error again06:56
Alashuaanyone know if kde comes with a screenshot and where i could find it?06:56
Dr_Willismajd,  could be ya got some firewall stuff enabled under linux06:56
Q_Continuummajd: 6881 is often blocked by ISPs now.  Try another port?06:57
Dr_Willismajd,  i got 6881-7000 forwared to my box.06:57
Keyframehow can I make fstab reread again without restarting?06:57
_jasonKeyframe: sudo mount -a06:57
_amin_jason, ive marked totem-xine for installation. Now ..06:57
Keyframethx06:57
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javiolo_amin dont remember what package I installed06:57
_jason_amin: for mp3's I think you'll need to read your private messages06:58
javiolobut check the ones called vlc06:58
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_amin_jason, om gone with that page many times06:58
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_jason_amin: do your mp3's play now?06:58
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_aminbut i always end up confuding myself in reprositoes06:58
Psykushow do I run the graphical version of nethack? it seemed to install with the standard nethack, but I can't figure out a command to run it06:58
Keyframedamnit I have mount point like //Krono/Diskor (D)/06:59
_amin_jason,  now synaptic is installing those marked packages06:59
Keyframehow do I add that in fstab?06:59
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_jason_amin: ok06:59
VerithraxHow can I change my boot splash screen?06:59
ratleyPsykus, try running nethack-gnome06:59
dstryrwhat could be the problem of this: Translation.m:155: invalid character: message ignored06:59
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_jasondstryr: what caused that?06:59
_amin_jason, after installation how i will be able to see totem-xine as a gui application ?06:59
KeyframeI've tried like this: "//Kronos/Diskor (D)/" /home/keyframe/Diskor smbfs06:59
Keyframebut it won't work06:59
majdDr_Willis,, Q_Continuum : http://72.29.74.19/Screenshot.png06:59
_jason_amin: just run totem as usual06:59
Psykusah ok, grabbing it off of apt-get now06:59
majdoops...http://72.29.74.19/~majdkgf/Screenshot.png07:00
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jrsimsoh my god. everyone should use gnu screen!07:00
slinkidyHello everyone07:00
_jasonjrsims: :)07:00
majdwhat's gnu screen?07:00
_amini also installed and unpacked those codecs yesterday, what would they do good ?07:00
Q_Continuumwhat's the IP of the machine you're running that on, majd?  .1 is usually the router in the case of Linksys machines.07:00
_jason_amin: I don't understand your question07:01
jrsimsok everyone. right now - sudo apt-get install screen07:01
killua_16hi07:01
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FlannelKingjrsims: what about it?07:01
majdQ_Continuum, my ip is totally different07:01
jrsimsFlannelKing: what about it? IT RULES DUDE! check the man page.07:02
majd71...07:02
Keyframeanyone? I have space in mount point.. how should I write that in fstab?07:02
_aminw32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb how do i use it ?07:02
ratleymajd, yeah, you're forwarding to your router07:02
majdratley, is that a bad thing?07:02
FlannelKingjrsims: I know, I'm on it right now!07:02
Q_Continuummajd: change the IP for the port forward then to 71.07:02
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majdhow do i change it?07:02
jrsimsFlannelKing: good job. it's my first day on screen.07:02
Q_Continuumchange the 1 next to 'enabled' to 71 or whatever your IP is.07:02
majdbut i can't edit the 192.168.1. part07:02
_jason_amin: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb07:02
FlannelKingjrsims: grin, I've had four ;)07:02
majdwould it pose a security thread if i pasted my ip?07:02
majdhere07:03
Q_Continuumyou have to be on the same network as it, so you'll have to set your machine to 192.168.1.x07:03
Xenguyjrsims: screen is indispensible :-)07:03
_jasonmajd: no since we can all figure it out07:03
jrsimsFlannelKing: yeah, maybe I don't need to install an window manager now. :)07:03
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_amindone. now whats the funtion of that file ?07:03
majdthis is my ip: 71.65.19.97   so i should set it to 192.168.1.71.65.19.97 ? (that doesn't make sense07:03
Q_Continuumno07:03
Psykuswhat is screen?07:03
FlannelKingjrsims: laugh, I'd go with ... um, damn.  There's some nice screen like ones, been looking for window managers for my bloody old laptop.07:04
Q_Continuumyour computer is plugged into the LAN port of that Linksys router, correct?07:04
majdsorry for being an idiot lol...i'm kinda slow with this stuff07:04
dstryrey guys, look at this: (WW) The directory "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.07:04
_jason_amin: it provides support for wmv, rm, mov, divx, and a bunch of other stuff probably07:04
dstryrhow can i get that font?07:04
FlannelKingPsykus: it allows you to run multiple terminals through ssh (or whatever)07:04
majdQ_Continuum, correct07:04
_amin_jason, synaptic has just installed totem-xine but i cant see it in applications07:04
cafuegodstryr: install the cyrillic fonts07:04
_jason_amin: it should be sound and video > totem07:04
Q_Continuummajd: Ok.  pull up a console, and type in ifconfig07:04
dstryrhow?07:04
cafuegodstryr: Of cours, that's just a non-fatalw arning, which you can happily ignore.07:04
_aminsupports to any particular software ? which software >07:04
FlannelKingso, I can have centericq running, with irssi, with vim, all at the same time, at the same putty terminal07:04
Psykusah, neat07:04
majdQ_Continuum,  ok...07:04
Q_Continuummajd: the IP you listed above is your public-facing IP.  You are behind a router, so you've got your own, different IP.07:05
Keyframehow can I have spaces in fstab mount point? :/07:05
Q_Continuummajd: whatever the last octet (x.x.x.XXX) is what we want.07:05
cafuegoKeyframe: file\ with \ spaces07:05
majdi see07:05
FlannelKingmajd: you've got a subnet IP, probably starts around 10007:05
majdcan i paste this info here?07:05
cafuegoKeyframe: escape 'em with backslashes07:05
Q_Continuumsure.  we can't get past the router anyway.07:05
FlannelKingmajd: it's how the router tells everyone apart07:05
Q_Continuumdoesn't matter though.07:05
_amin_jason, NO totem-xine not there. There is only the old one 'Totem Movie PLayer'07:05
majdinet addr:192.168.1.102  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.007:05
Keyframeok, lemme try it - thanks07:05
FlannelKingyou're 102 then07:05
majdso i need to put in 102 for the value?07:05
majdok07:05
XenguyPsykus: and if the connection crashes, you just re-connect and start where you left off07:05
_jason_amin: that's the one, it replaces your old one07:05
_amindo want me to logou/in ?07:06
Q_Continuummajd: so put 102 in the box where it currently has the 107:06
Q_Continuumthen tell it to save07:06
majdTesting port 7000 ... OK !07:06
majdWOOO07:06
majdthanks a lot guys07:06
frank_is there anyway to change the contrast and brightness in ubuntu?07:06
Q_Continuumthat's telling the router "when I get data incoming on the ports between 6881 and 7000, forward to THIS machine on the other side, the protected, LAN side."07:06
dstryr(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)07:06
cafuegofrank_: Use the controls on your monitor07:06
dstryrany ideas?07:06
XenguyPsykus: or you 'detach', go to another PC, and re-connect the same session (etc :-)07:06
cafuegodstryr: (WW) can be ignored.07:06
frank_im on a laptop07:06
frank_theres only brightness07:07
majdQ_Continuum, oh i see....thanks for the information and the help..07:07
cafuegodstryr: There is not a problem if lines start with (EE)07:07
FlannelKingPsykus: you can even do split screen stuff, and tons of other things07:07
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Q_Continuummajd: not a problem, glad to help.07:07
Keyframecafuego: hmmm.. how exactly? if mount point is //Krono/Diskor (D)/ .. should I write //Krono/Diskor\\(D) ?07:07
frank_i was just wondering to see if it was like windows where you can go to properties and mess around with the settings there07:07
majdok...now it says firewalled lol07:07
dstryrbut that's WW though07:07
cafuegodstryr: ONLY  aproblem if lines start with (EE)07:07
dstryrhow to install that font really07:07
cozbyappreciate the help FF is updated07:07
slinkidyHey everyone, I'm installing ubuntu on my old desktop lol, This is my first time ever using it, wish me luck :p07:07
cafuegoKeyframe: You might need to escape those brackets too07:07
cafuego/krono/Diskor\ \(D\)/07:08
_amin_jason, Totem could not play 'file:///media/hda5/Music/English/Micheal buble/Micheal Buble - come fly with me.mp3'.  Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies07:08
cafuegoOr give the share a useful name in Windows, then try again.07:08
Q_Continuumfirewalled on what, majd?07:08
_jason_amin: 'sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad' in a terminal07:08
Q_ContinuumDHT?  that's common, usually it's just because you're not actually talking to anyone.07:08
Q_Continuumas long as NAT is green, you're good.07:08
Psykuscome flyyyy with me...07:08
Vylar1978xen is there any way to mount the flopy and make it permininate07:08
cafuego_amin: Yes, Michael Buble would make your CPU crash.07:09
dliis alsa installed by default ubuntu-desktop?07:09
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redhey all07:09
dreamyhi all07:09
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dreamyhelp me07:09
_jason!helpme07:09
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.07:09
majdQ_Continuum, NAT used to be red, after i fixed it, just says Firewalled07:09
dreamy=)07:09
redwhat's a shell command for the last time a file was modified? or created?07:09
Q_Continuumwhat port are you using right now (for Azureus?)07:10
redanyone ...07:10
_jasonred: stat maybe07:10
dreamyhow to register in windows nt domain???????????07:10
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lgc_jason laugh at me: I thought this "ubotu" was a real guy inviting me over to a private chat! (After many mechanical answers on "his" part I asked if he did little girls, and "he" responded "Syntax error").07:10
curley_sue#fluxbox07:10
cafuegored: 'man ls' See the time format and list options.07:10
_jasonlgc: ha07:10
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majdQ_Continuum, 700007:10
Q_Continuummajd: I'd change the port to something in the 49,000 range, something random works, change it in Azureus then also in the Linksys router.  Most of those don't get blocked up there.07:10
Psykusred, ls -l (file) I think07:10
lgc_jason, life sucks!07:10
dreamyis ubuntu work with windows domains?07:10
red_jason: yeah ... it's  a start ... but I wonder if there is a command that spits out a response "5 minutes"07:11
Psykuswill show last modified I think07:11
nicholaspauldreamy: huh??07:11
_jasonred: man stat07:11
SardoPsychohey gang...gotta question about video codecs - anyone know where I can get and how to install the XVID codec to work with either Totem or RealPlayer10?07:11
dreamyim work at factory with 200 komputers07:12
_amin_jason, done kthx07:12
Keyframecafuego: I appriciate it.. but it doesn't work.. since actuall mount point is //Krono/Diskor (D)/ .. I tried with //Krono/Diskor\ \(D\)/ .. but all I get is mount point \(D\)/ does not exist07:12
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dreamywe want to cange windows on linux07:12
jiangguoweijiangguowei@ubuntu-jiang:~$ gpg --clearsign ~/ubuntu-coc.txt.07:12
jiangguoweigpg: directory `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg' created07:12
jiangguoweigpg: new configuration file `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created07:12
jiangguoweigpg: WARNING: options in `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run07:12
redYeah, it shows last modified ... but I don't want to have to process this. Would prefer to go COMMAND "file" ... if output > 10 minutes then do something ...07:12
majdQ_Continuum,  http://72.29.74.19/~majdkgf/Screenshot.png07:12
jiangguoweigpg: keyring `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created07:12
_jason_amin: do your mp3's play now?07:12
Q_Continuummajd: I'm running off for food, I'll be back at some point.  I know there's some more info on the Azureus homepage/wiki on how to resolve that issue, if you continue to get stuck.07:12
jiangguoweigpg: keyring `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created07:12
jiangguoweigpg: no default secret key: secret key not available07:12
jiangguoweigpg: /home/jiangguowei/ubuntu-coc.txt.: clearsign failed: secret key not availab le07:12
_jasonjiangguowei: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/07:12
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majdok07:12
jiangguoweiHow should I do?07:12
majdthank you07:12
Psykushaha, looks like a weird kind of emoticon07:12
Psykus\(D\)/07:13
_amin_jason, yes they do. I also installed VLC from synaptic, where to run VLC from now ?07:13
lgc_jason, anyway, I don't know how you pulled that fine trick on me. But back to the subject, if Ideb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse" it will do? do something like "07:13
jiangguowei_jason:sorry07:13
Psykussome sort of creature raising its hands up07:13
_jasonjiangguowei: http://www.dewinter.com/gnupg_howto/english/GPGMiniHowto.html07:13
_jason_amin: it should be in sound and video > vlc, if not do 'killall gnome-panel'07:13
nicholaspaulI cant get audio working on ppc laptop but have no idea where to start problem solving..what should i check first?07:14
dstryr.07:14
_jasonlgc: yes, as long as you are indeed using hoary07:14
Vylar1978Can you mount the cd rom07:14
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Vylar1978like you do the floppy drive07:15
dstryrhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9664, what's the problem with this? im trying to start x, i installed every drivers, etc07:15
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lgc_jason, indeed (I'll wait till April for the next Ubuntu. By the way, can I skip Breezy all along, or do I have to update to it in order to update to the next one?)07:15
ge_gehello07:15
Vylar1978Hi07:16
_jasonlgc: I've heard mixed results with warty --> breezy.  I've mostly seen people say it is safe though.  Personally, I would update in steps07:16
slinkidyhi07:16
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ge_gecan i join?07:16
XenguyVylar1978: sure: mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom07:16
_jasonge_ge: you're in07:16
saimcan i join07:16
dstryr_jason07:16
dstryrany idea?07:16
_jason!ask07:17
ge_geohh thnx07:17
dstryrhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9664, what's the problem with this? im trying to start x, i installed every drivers, etc07:17
_amin_jason, i am re-installing vnc from synaptic07:17
XenguyVylar1978: (assuming /cdrom exists)07:17
lgc_jason, and how safe are my files during the update?07:17
saimwhat is this all about??07:17
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TheCrowXThanx for all everyone :)07:17
_jason_amin: ok, you shouldn't have to07:17
jambonum07:17
_jasonsaim: /topic07:17
Xenguysaim: /topic07:17
jamboni just killed xserver by trying to instlal xgl07:17
jambonand i don'tknow how to get out of it07:17
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_amin_jason,  sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad07:17
jambonanyone help?07:17
_amin  <==-- what did this command do ?07:17
jambontext browser?07:17
_jason_amin: it installs gstreamer0.8-mad just like if you had done it with synaptic07:18
ge_genaay tga san juan dri?07:18
studentsai. answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board.07:18
dstryrwhat you think _jason?07:18
_jasonlgc: I can't really say I know much about that07:18
nicholaspaulWhen i open a wav in Totem, i cant hear it. Which alsa files do i need?07:18
jiangguowei_jason:I have read it carefully,but it doesn't tell me how  I deal with this error07:18
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student Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board07:19
_amin_jason, from which directory it fetched the gstreamer0-8-mad ?07:19
FlannelKingjambon: what about text browser?07:19
_jasondstryr: I don't know, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe let you get back to X and start over though07:19
_jasondstryr: s/maybe/may07:19
_jason_amin: online07:19
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student Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board07:19
student Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board07:19
student Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board07:19
student Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board07:20
student Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board07:20
dstryri did07:20
_jasonjiangguowei: seems like you haven't created/selected your private key07:20
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dstryrkept getting the same error07:20
student Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board07:20
_jasonstudent: please don't repeat07:20
dstryrshould i remove my vidcard and use my integrated one?07:20
studentSai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board07:20
ge_gewhats wrong with u student07:20
FlannelKingstudent: if you're going to repeat, at least make it coherent, or intersting.07:20
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Madpilotstudent, English please07:21
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dstryrword07:21
dstryrand yeah _jason, would that help?07:21
_jasondstryr: I don't really know what's going on there to be honest with you07:21
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jiangguowei_jason : launchpad.net/faq only told me to sing the ubuntu code of conduct.How can I  creat/select my private key.07:21
Keyframethis is so retarded.. fstab can't accept spaces in mount points, and windows does not allow me to change share name of the drive07:21
_amin_jason, i am running mp3 by right click 'open with another application' and then selecting realplayer, how to get realplayer in GNU Apllications tab ?07:21
_jasonjiangguowei: read the tutorial I linked you to, it explains it very nicely07:22
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jiangguowei_jason: ok.I will read it.Many thanks!07:22
_jason_amin: what is 'GNU applications tab'?07:22
fomponis installing parts of kde to run kde based applications going to slow down my system?07:23
_jasonfompon: depends on your system, mine runs fine with 512mb and 1600mhz for your reference07:23
FlannelKingfompon: installing them? no.  it'll just take up HD space07:23
studentSai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board07:23
Xenguyfompon: I've never noticed a problem07:23
fomponcool07:23
_amin_jason, the one from which i opened totem movie player from SOUND AND VIDEO (top left )07:23
fomponthanks guys07:23
jrsimshey, I can't seem to find mysql on apt. what name is it under?07:23
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FlannelKingstudent: awas ylasu myusp wbeusk isc ciw wum07:24
_jason_amin: go to system tools > application menu editor and add a new shortcut for it07:24
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Xenguyjrsims: apt-cache search mysql07:24
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jrsimsXenguy: k07:24
_amin_jason, i donot know in which directory realplayer is installed in /home ive only it .deb file07:24
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_jason_amin: how do you run realplayer?07:25
ge_getoink wla ,may agany diri07:25
_aminright click on the mp3 and then 'open with '07:25
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dstryrFIXED.07:25
_jason_amin: try 'which realplayer' in a terminal07:25
dstryrX IR F'in running07:25
dstryr:D07:25
dstryr:D07:25
_jasondstryr: what did you end up doing?07:25
dstryri had to mess with the PCI stuff07:26
Madpilot!enter07:26
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!07:26
dstryrlke the PCI:0:1:007:26
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basti!mp307:26
ubotuhmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:26
dstryryou kno what im talkin bout07:26
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_amin_jason, nothing appeared after that command07:26
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dstryrit was set to PCI:0:0:107:27
studentSai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board07:27
_jason_amin: type real and press <tab>, anything happen?07:27
dstryrbut my device is PCI:1:3:007:27
dstryr:D07:27
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_jasonanyone know the command for realplayer?07:27
ech0does ubuntu have good sata support?07:27
studentSai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board07:27
jambonFlannelKing: the site doesn't support text browsing07:27
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studentSai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board07:27
studentSai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board07:27
_jasonstudent: no one understand what you are saying07:27
dstryrstudent?07:27
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dstryri do understand what he was saying07:28
FlannelKingjambon: uh, which site?07:28
_jasonoh ok, I was wrong then07:28
_amin_jason, realplay            realvncpasswd       realvncserver07:28
_aminrealvncconnect      realvncpasswd.real07:28
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_jason_amin: ok, type 'realplay' and make sure that open up realplayer.  If it does, type 'which realplay' and use that as the command in your menu shortcut07:29
jambonFlannelKing: ubuntu wiki07:29
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nicholaspaulanyone got ALSA drivers for Powerbook?07:29
nicholaspaul- or know where i can get em?07:29
dstryrit feels good when you've solved your own problem man07:30
dstryr:D07:30
jiangguowei_jason:i have solved my problem under your help.Thanks!  :)07:30
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_jasonjiangguowei: cool07:30
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ge_gei dont like this07:30
ge_geshittttttttt07:30
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FlannelKingjambon does it really?  Eh, I don't seem to have much of a problem.  What page specifically?07:30
derek_57hgfhello07:30
nicholaspaulhi derek_57hgf07:30
derek_57hgfhows it goin07:31
FlannelKingge_ge: watch your language; "this doesn't work" usually isn't a good method of getting help07:31
ge_gewell actually im not after on ur help07:31
Madpilotech0, my only HD is SATA, I've never had any trouble with it & Ubuntu07:31
slinkidyHey guys, I have a question. I'm tryin to install ubuntu onto my old desktop but while installing the base system, it says that the kernal-linux 366 (i think, i restarted) any suggestions on what to do to solve this?07:31
nicholaspaulThis is the official support channel, ge_ge07:32
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derek_57hgfdoes anyonw know how to get sound working on quake 3?I am running breezy 32 bit.07:32
dlihow to get dialup from the installation cd?07:32
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nicholaspaulslinkidy: what do you need solving?07:32
dstryrok07:32
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slinkidyit says it has failed to install, sorry i wasn't paying attention lol07:33
dstryrwhat's this: it says: Internal error - failed to initialize HAL!07:33
dstryr?07:33
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nicholaspaulslinkidy: hard to say. It could be a conflict with hardware (one possibility i've heard of). noting the errors would really help :)07:33
slinkidyis it a corrupt cd or should i just restart and try again?07:33
ge_gei cant even chat on my friends\07:33
derek_57hgfhas anyone gotten quaje 3 to work on ubuntu?07:33
slinkidyone sec, i'll see if it comes up again07:33
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ge_gethis network is so disgusting07:34
derek_57hgfquake*07:34
Synswhat is .asx?07:34
Synsrealplayer wont work with it07:34
FlannelKingSyns: microsoft audio stream something or other07:34
_jasonSyns: usually windows media07:34
nicholaspaulslinkidy:  I've had probs like that with corrupt discs, yea.07:34
Madpilotge_ge, if you register you can chat on Freenode07:34
Madpilot!tell ge_ge about register07:34
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Synsis there nothing i can use to play it?07:35
dstryrperfect. now i have to fix the gcc stuff07:35
Synsno workaround?07:35
dstryrit wont compile anything07:35
jetscreamerderek_57hgf: if nvidia you'll probably need the nvidia-binary07:35
ge_geok07:35
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derek_57hgfoh07:35
FlannelKingSyns: read the asx file in a text editor, see what the actual stream is07:35
derek_57hgfthanks jetscreamer07:35
slinkidyan error was returned while trying to instal the kernel into the target system.    kernel package:  Linux-386    Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details07:35
themuffenmanndstryr, are you in need of a c++ compiler?07:35
dstryrfeels like im using MacOSX07:35
SardoPsychohey gang...gotta question about video codecs - anyone know where I can get and how to install the XVID codec to work with either Totem or RealPlayer10?07:36
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Vylar1978 Ok Good night for now07:36
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derek_57hgfjetscreamer: you the same person that hangs out in #debian?07:36
Vylar1978Thanks for the Lessons on Linux yall see you tomorrow07:36
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jetscreameryes07:36
dstryrtook me like 3 days to start X07:36
dstryrdang07:36
jetscreamerderek_57hgf: are you the bot guy?07:36
derek_57hgfno07:37
carlkanyone know how many different users have logged into this channel in the last year?07:37
_jasonSardoPsycho: I think installing totem-xine (enable universe and use synaptic) and w32codecs (see bot link) will work07:37
derek_57hgfi am derek the great07:37
jetscreamerah07:37
_jasonubotu: tell SardoPsycho about universe07:37
_jasonubotu: tell SardoPsycho about w32codecs07:37
Synssays the player doesnt have the compatibilities to play it, but doesnt say what those compatibilities are07:37
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derek_57hgfmplayer will prolly play it07:37
derek_57hgfif you ge tthe codecs for it07:38
FlannelKingSyns what's the filetype of the actual stream?07:38
carlkxchat just got pulled from the default install - I think that is a bad thing, but not sure how to measure the use of it07:38
_amin_jason,  whats the difference between gnome and gtk+ ?07:38
Synsu know what, mplayer has always been a bitch for me07:38
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_jasonSyns: install w32codecs and use mplayer07:38
Syns.asx07:38
_jasonSyns: totem-xine might work too with w32codecs07:38
Synsits a stream07:38
Synsill take my chances with mplayer..07:38
Synstotem NEVER works07:38
Madpilotcarlk, Freenode might keep stats like that - maybe ask on #freenode?07:38
Synsnot even with cds07:38
derek_57hgfcya07:39
_jason_amin: gnome is the desktop environment and gtk is the gimp toolkit (how your windows are constructed basically)07:39
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FlannelKingcarlk: so, there's no IRC client installed in base ubuntu anymore?07:39
pinpointif one removes a lib file and errors emerge  whats the best way to fix?07:39
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_0331_USMCCan someone help direct me to a site where I can learn to network my computers together?  I want to have a server for files/web testing that I can use with my windows and linux box's07:39
carlkFlannelKing: basically - there is gaim07:39
_jasonpinpoint: unremove the lib file?07:39
pinpointunremove?07:40
_jasonpinpoint: reinstall07:40
Synsw32codes is not availible but is referred to by another package?07:40
FlannelKingcarlk: psh, that's a bad choice, if you ask me.  Of course, who am I? heh.07:40
_jasonubotu: tell Syns about w32codecs07:40
MadpilotSyns, you need to install w32codecs seperatly07:40
me2win!w32codecs07:40
ubotumethinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install07:40
pinpointas in reinstall ubuntu?07:40
_jasonpinpoint: no, reinstall the lib07:40
carlkFlannelKing: I agree.  but you me and 5 or 10 others isn't quite enough07:40
jambonFlannelKing: sorry, i'm hopping between #xgl and here.07:41
p4ti have a problem in connecting websites07:41
jamboni got to the page07:41
jambonjust more problems pop upo07:41
p4tand i dont know how to fix it07:41
themuffenmannp4t..explain you issue07:41
p4ti just installed the tor last day07:41
p4ta day before yesterday07:41
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p4tthen it worked07:42
SardoPsycho ok..I have downloaded and installed the codecs, but the xvid files are still not playing in totem or RealPlayer07:42
p4tbut yesterday07:42
Madpilot!enter07:42
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!07:42
p4tit started its error so i decided to uninstalled the tor privoxy this morning07:42
FlannelKingcarlk: found your answer.07:42
FlannelKing!ubotu seen07:42
FlannelKingaww, well, do it.07:42
p4tbut i cant still connect to websites07:42
FlannelKingHe tells you how many entries he has in seen07:42
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pinpoint_jason, sudo apt-get update?07:43
FlannelKingcarlk: so, you can check out ubotus database.  And then add a bunch for all the people who log on as "ubuntu"07:43
carlkcool - thanks07:43
FlannelKing1838307:43
MadpilotFlannelKing, "18383 seen entries that I know of" - wow - we'll have to ask cafuego how far back the bot keeps logs07:43
themuffenmannany experienced C++ programmers with any good ideas for a program? im kinda bored at the moment07:43
carlk#freenode was read-only :)07:43
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_jasonpinpoint: maybe you should provide more details about your problem07:44
SardoPsychoAnyone?  I went to the link you provided about the w32 codecs, downloaded it, went into the terminal, and installed it as per the instructions - there were no errors - but my xvid files are still not playing in totem or RealPlayer.....07:44
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pinpointSardoPsycho, try xine?07:44
FlannelKingcarlk: so, yeah, get ahold of cafuego, he can probably dump a log or db on you, or whatnot.  at least some stats.07:44
pinpointmine work good07:44
carlk!ubotu seen07:44
SardoPsychopinpoint - xine???07:44
pinpointyeah07:44
_jasonSardoPsycho: did you install totem-xine as well?07:44
SardoPsychodidn't receive instructions for that07:45
SardoPsychohow do I nab that packagge?07:45
_jasonSardoPsycho: enable universe and install totem-xine07:45
SardoPsychook..next dumb question...how do I enable universe?07:45
FlannelKingcarlk: but, considering theres 18K+ people here, and 76K people on the forums, I'd say this is a pretty signifigant source of dialog07:45
_jasonSardoPsycho: check your private messages07:45
carlkagreed07:45
FlannelKingwell, carlk, you'll want to check out kubuntu and all those other channels too07:45
myloxvid ? i'd suggest use vlc instead of totem07:45
carlkohh, good one07:45
FlannelKingof course, there's probably a lot of overlap, but, for the sake of keeping xchat in default ubuntu, a little number inflation never hurt anyone ;)07:46
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MadpilotFlannelKing & carlk, the bot's seen works across all the channels it's in - so here, #kubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic, etc etc07:46
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carlkI just noticed that07:47
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SardoPsychoinstalling now....let's see what blows up lol07:48
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glock_can anyone help me install videocard drivers im having a hard time... msg me07:48
glock_trying to update these nvidia drivers07:48
LGood Moring People07:48
Lme to07:48
frank_o.k im new to ubuntu installed it everything works of the bat except my built in media reader on my laptop how can i fix this07:48
Madpilotglock_, have you seen the wiki's nvidia howto?07:49
FlannelKingcarlk: Ive had tons more luck here than the forums.  Heh, you can reference my unanswered/unsolved threads ;) "flannel" username07:49
_amin_jason, ive installed GNOME Radio from Add Applications. Now when i ioen it i receive an error: Could not open device "/dev/radio" !07:49
_aminCheck your Settings and make sure that no other07:49
_aminprogram is using /dev/radio.07:49
_aminMake also sure that you have read-access to it.07:49
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FlannelKingcarlk: alright, two of them.  But still.07:49
Lif u Look at http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2907:49
_jason_amin: I have no idea about gnome radio07:50
jiangguowei_jason:After I paste ubuntu-coc.txt.asc file in launchpad.net.it told me that an error occured:No public key.07:50
SardoPsychoOK......one snag _jason.....I installed totem-xine, the w32codecs, no errors, however, I now get video, but absolutely no sound07:50
_amin_jason, what seems to be the error ?07:50
_aminhow do i know if other application is using /dev/radio ?07:50
jambonya, so if ANYONE knows a lot about xgl andis willing to help me out of text mode, hop over to #xgl. please07:50
_jason_amin: /dev/radio probably does not exist07:50
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Madpilotjiangguowei, you need to upload your public key, make sure Launchpad knows about it - there should be instructions on the launchpad site07:51
_jasonubotu: tell SardoPsycho about multimedia07:51
_jasonSardoPsycho: if after installing those things it still doesn't work then use vlc or mplayer07:51
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SardoPsychokk...trying those now07:51
_amin_jason, ive a Bluetooth builtin in my laptop how can i use/transffer files from other BlueTooth enabled devices ?07:51
_jason_amin: I don't know, you are better off addressing the channel07:52
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_aminCan anyone help me ? Ive a Bluetooth builtin in my laptop how can i use/transffer files from other BlueTooth enabled devices ?07:53
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carlkFlannelKing: I dont think the xchat thing needs to be comparid to other things, other than "how much overall gain" does it provide07:53
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jiangguoweiMadpilot:I see.I will try to upload my OpenPGP key first07:54
Madpilot!tell jiangguowei about gpg07:54
lgc_jason, nalioth_zZz (or rather ZZZZZZ), thanks. Ill call it a night just now. Till later. Adios, amigos!07:54
FlannelKingcarlk: grin, I know.  Im just tired, tend to ramble.  But, it's definately a huge help, things get resolved here so much quicker than in the forums.07:54
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sambagirldoes ubuntu run on the Pegasos?07:55
sambagirldoes ubuntu run on the Pegasos ] [ ?07:55
bitoxwill ubuntu 6.04 when released have kde 3.5 and the latest gnome 1.4?07:55
bitoxand will it support Xgl?07:55
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carlksambagirl: is that an old Mac?07:55
sambagirlno07:55
sambagirlthat is a cross between amiga and mac i suppose mostly.  Guru Meditation Error07:56
fabbionestartkeylogger07:56
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fabbioneops--07:56
fabbione-ECHAN07:56
fabbionesorry07:56
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bitox?07:56
sambagirlit uses the ibm chip07:56
Redthi'm having problems seemingly getting opengl and glut installed on breezy.. i need the devel packages...  it's not finding GL/gl.h even when i compile with -lGL07:56
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LGood moring07:56
KorimyrMight someone help me? I'm attempting to use the Ubuntu Live Boot to test to see whether or not I want to install it permanently-- but the boot process locks up when it attempts to load the desktop. I end up with a blank screen and wholly unresponsive controls.07:57
fabbioneMadpilot: dude.. easy.. eh?07:57
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Madpilotfabbione, that's not a stunt likely to work much on this channel, but it shouldn't be encourage...07:57
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fabbioneMadpilot: dude.. 2 things.. one if i say ECHAN i mean it07:58
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fabbioneMadpilot: kicking developers for a mistake is not nice.. or should we start kicking users because they do PEBCAK ?07:58
sambagirlhttp://www.pegasosppc.com/07:59
Madpilotfabbione, I saw the log stuff before I noticed the nick, TBH.07:59
kujaKicking people cause they're stupid is not nice. Kicking people cause they're ignorant is acceptable.07:59
fabbioneMadpilot: well pay attention next time.07:59
carlkfabbione: what is ECHAN?08:00
dlihow to get dialup from the installation cd?08:00
sambagirlcarlk http://www.pegasosppc.com/08:00
fabbionecarlk: when you type something in the wrong window or channel08:00
carlksambagirl: thanks08:00
carlkfabbione: also thanks08:01
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fabbionecarlk: no problem :)08:01
xstationhey08:01
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carlkKorimyr: there are some ways to dumb down the Live Cd...  know what I am talking about?08:01
curley_suehi, does anybody knows how to find the "name" of fn+F5 and how to assign it to suspend function in fluxbox?08:01
sambagirldoes ubuntu run on say a Iris sgi computer?08:02
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Korimyrcarlk: Only vaguely. You mean disable certain troublesome features?08:02
viviersfsambagirl, erm what cpu arch would that use ?08:02
xstationrunning a install script and nedd openssl but its installed and the script I am running cannot find it as gives this message --Please get OpenSSL 0.9.6l or greater from http://www.openssl.org/08:03
carlkKorimyr: correct - you type some things at the boot: prompt08:03
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carlkKorimyr: it has been a few months, I think there is a boot: prompt at the very begginging08:03
carlkKorimyr: it shold say something like "hit F2 for options"08:04
Korimyrcarlk: Yes, there is. But I don't know what it is I should disable. Would switching back to my factory video card help?08:04
jiangguoweiMadpilot:After I upload my OpenPGP key , it told me that Launchpad could not import your OpenPGP key.08:05
jiangguoweiHTTP Error 500: OK at http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x03697E5F&op=get08:05
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carlkKorimyr: maybe, but before you start messing with hardware, try some of the options08:05
sambagirlhttp://tinyurl.com/l9zkc08:06
carlkKorimyr: typical problems are: power save modes, weird USB08:06
sambagirlthat is the url for the sgi08:06
sambagirlhttp://tinyurl.com/l9zkc08:06
curley_suehi, does anybody knows how to find the "name" of fn+F5 and how to assign it to suspend function in fluxbox?08:06
carlkKorimyr: course you did describe a video problem, so that boots the likelyness of a vid card problem08:06
jiangguoweiroot@ubuntu-jiang:/home/jiangguowei# gpg --send-keys08:07
jiangguoweiroot@ubuntu-jiang:/home/jiangguowei# gpg --send-keys08:07
jiangguowei.No any return.Is something wrong with sending keys?08:07
carlksambagirl: there is Ubuntu for PowerPC, so the Pegasus should fly08:07
Korimyrcarlk: Weird USB might be the problem. It finds FireWire when looking for Ethernet... and I don't actually have one.08:08
Korimyrcarlk: Very likely my next question, once I get it working at all.08:09
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carlksambagirl: "UNIT DOES NOT POWER ON." will probably be a problem :)08:09
Madpilotjiangguowei, have a read through "man gpg" - it's been a while since I uploaded my key, I can't remember the procedure08:10
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Madpilotjiangguowei, I suspect you need more arguements with that gpg --send-keys command08:10
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pabluxhola08:10
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pabluxdesde madrid08:11
ech0can ubuntu read/write to ntfs?08:11
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carlkech0: "no"08:11
holy_cowech0, only windows can08:11
carlkholy_cow: not ture08:11
holy_cowvery true08:11
Madpilotech0, read, but not write (safely)08:11
ech0yet another debate comes08:11
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holy_cowech0, only if one decides that 'pedancy' is debatable08:12
ech0can it wite new files safely?08:12
carlkech0: there are 2 ways to write to NTFS - the totaly open source code that can cause problems, and the wrapper around the MS suppied drivers08:12
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holy_cowthere is no wrapper for ms dlls, that project is dead08:12
holy_cowas well as the project it depended on08:13
skreelwhat channel is in spanish?08:13
carlkhowever, windows can read/write ext2/3, which often takes care of the need08:13
xophEryou can with an external driver..Paragon NTFS I think it was called, to bad it isnt free.08:13
FlannelKing!es08:13
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:13
ech0so ubuntu wouldnt be able to write to my other ntfs part correct? [yes/no] 08:14
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FlannelKingum, yes?08:14
holy_cowech0, nothing can. its that simple08:14
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miveczhow to install  xfce408:14
mivecz?08:14
sambagirlhah i did not read that :D08:14
carlkech0: not out of the box08:14
ech0thank you! i straight answer on the subject08:14
holy_cowwell except for the paragon proprietary driver, you can buy that08:14
sambagirlthanks08:14
xophErech0, but you can..08:14
sambagirlthanks carlk08:14
miveczhow to install  xfce408:15
carlksambagirl: glad I can help08:15
dstryrwhat's the diff between i686 nad i486?08:16
Healot!tell mivecz about apt-get08:16
sambagirlhttp://tinyurl.com/o4xrp carlk what abvout this one you think ubuntu work for this?08:16
carlkech0: here is what I use: www.fs-driver.org It provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access).08:16
Healot!xfce408:16
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot08:16
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FlannelKingmivecz: apt-get xfce4 you're welcome to do similar things with aptitude, synaptec, etc08:16
skreelwho can gibme a good adrees of a radio plz08:16
dlihow to get dialup from the installation cd?08:17
Healoti'll do extX drive from windows... but I recommend not the do the other way around, writing ntfs from linux is troublesome...08:17
elkbuntuif anyone here plays text MUDs, what client do they use? surely there's something better than gmoo or gnome-mud08:17
FlannelKingelkbuntu: lyntin I think is the granddaddy of all clients08:17
elkbuntuFlannelKing, is it as good as zmud?08:17
miveczE: Couldn't find package xfce408:18
Madpilot!xfce08:18
ubotuwell, xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/08:18
jiangguoweiMadpilot:gpg --send-keys 03697E5F08:18
jiangguoweigpg: sending key 03697E5F to hkp server subkeys.pgp.net08:18
jiangguoweigpg: keyserver timed out08:18
jiangguoweigpg: keyserver send failed: keyserver error08:18
FlannelKingelkbuntu: zmuds poo.  Mushclient is better.  You can run MC under wine.08:18
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Madpilot!info xfce408:18
ubotuxfce4: (Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB08:18
carlksambagirl: "based on MIPS R5000 CPU "  I don't think there is Ubuntu for that,08:18
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elkbuntui dont particuarly want to install wine... looks like too much effort :P08:18
Madpilotmivecz, you need to have Universe repo enabled to get xfce408:18
sambagirlok08:18
FlannelKingelkbuntu: if you want a nice graphical client, I'd suggest Mushclient and wine.  Lyntin is text based, old fashioned08:18
miveczsudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop08:18
sambagirlthanks carlk08:18
sambagirlagain08:18
carlkelkbuntu: wine is in teh repo08:19
jiangguoweiMadpilot:keyserver doesn't work?08:19
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skreelwho can type a radio adres plz08:19
elkbuntuCarlk i was under the impression there was alot of fiddling to do with it still08:19
FlannelKingelkbuntu: yeah, it's in the repo.  MC forums have a good tutorial on running with wine too.  Only difference from windows is you have to use Lua for scripting, as the other languages are DOM based.08:19
Madpilotjiangguowei, I don't know - see if there's a GPG channel on freenode08:19
carlkelkbuntu: that depends on what win apps you are trying to run08:19
jrsimsisnt' "startx" supposed to come with my xorg download?08:20
elkbuntuis xwine worth installing?08:20
sambagirlwhat is a radio address?08:20
jiangguoweiMadpilot:Ok.Let me try.Thank you very much!08:20
elkbuntujrsims, startx is something you use before x is already running08:20
elkbuntuit starts the xserver08:20
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Madpilotjiangguowei, #gnupg08:21
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jrsimselkbuntu: ok, so where do I get it?08:22
elkbuntujrsims, are you typing 'startx' at a console prompt?08:22
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sambagirlwhat is a radio address?08:23
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levanderHow screwed am i going to get if even though i have gcc 4 installed, i try to install gcc 3.3 also?08:23
Healoti would recommend /etc/init.d/gdm start instead :)08:23
jrsimselkbuntu: yes. just so you know, I installed the base system of ubuntu, so I'm now trying to acquire all the packages I need for basic windowing (fluxbox)08:23
_jasonlevander: 0 screwage08:23
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slvmchn!info rosegarden08:23
levander_jason: mmmmm... this is scary08:24
holy_cowlevander, none, nada, zilcho08:24
uboturosegarden: (An integrated MIDI sequencer and musical notation editor), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 2.1pl4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 36 kB08:24
slvmchn!info lmms08:24
levanderholy_cow: you sure???08:24
holy_cowi've got it installed here08:24
slvmchn!info ardour08:24
slvmchn!info qjackctl08:24
levanderholy_cow: you've got gcc 4 and gcc 3.3?08:24
ubotuqjackctl: (User interface for controlling the JACK sound server), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.2.18-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 345 kB, Installed size: 972 kB08:24
slvmchn!info jack08:24
holy_cowlevander, you can always install/reinstall gcc versions later08:24
carlkjrsims: have you heard of xubuntu?08:24
ubotujack: (Rip and encode CDs with one command), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 3.1.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 100 kB, Installed size: 540 kB08:24
_jasonlevander: I've 3.3, 3.4, and 4 and no problems08:24
jrsimscarlk: no, what's that?08:24
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Healotyou can install all GCC versions side-by-side08:24
Healottechnically08:25
Redththis is frustrating.... freeglut3-dev won't install08:25
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jiangguoweiMadpilot: yeah, I will join that channel.08:25
holy_cowits just a compiler, nothing depends on it08:25
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dli"Can not get terminal parameter, input/output error", in dialup using "pon"08:25
carlkjrsims: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu08:25
jrsimscarlk: I have no browser yet! what does it do? :)08:25
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carlkdli: there is a better thing... yphone... no... just a sec.08:25
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dlicarlk, before anything good, how can I get it without dialup?08:26
dreamyhow to register in windowsnt  domain???????08:26
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dstryrwhat is wine?08:27
Healota liquor? hehe08:27
hatake_kakashi!tell dstryr about wine08:27
carlkjrsims: "Ubuntu desktop experience (even on older hardware) by using Xfce4 as the desktop environment and GTK+ 2 applications"08:27
levanderdstryr: windows emulator08:27
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carlkdli: yeah, it is on the CD...  i think... im looking in a sec08:27
dstryris stable if you run win app on it?08:28
dstryrlike mirc and stuff08:28
carlkjrsims: "you can install it by doing a server install of Ubuntu and then fetching and installing the xubuntu-desktop package."08:28
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rupan3aww why would you want mirc08:28
Healotdstryr, really depends on what your wine can do/its version///08:28
dstryrim just saying08:28
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dstryrthats the only thing i could think of08:28
jrsimscarlk: sounds good. I'll try it.08:28
hatake_kakashidstryr: not all win32 programs can be running through wine.. and why the hell would you want to use mirc on linux? sheesh08:28
rupan3did you spend too much timelearning mircscript?08:28
Healotand the DLLs that your Windows app load08:29
rupan3hehe i know i did08:29
rupan3:p08:29
dstryranyway , is there any plugins for xchat that shows your sys info?08:29
Healotdamn, LInux for Linux apps :)08:29
sinaduelhello, I am using kubuntu, and do not wish to reset my OS to become a server for my site, so how would I go about doing it?08:29
holy_cowsinaduel, uninstall apache?08:29
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hatake_kakashidstryr: yes there is, I think xchat has some urls pointing around for it08:29
polpaksinaduel: you want to set up a web server?08:29
Madpilotdstryr, check the XChat homepage - xchat.org - there are piles of plugins08:30
rupan3sinaduel: i think it's unclear what you are asking08:30
sinaduelyes, I want to be a server for my web site08:30
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polpaksinaduel: install apache08:30
holy_cowoh wait, INSTALL apache08:30
holy_cowheh08:30
dreamyhow to register in windowsnt  domain???????08:30
holy_cowthat was a trick question X)08:30
sinaduelthankyou08:30
rupan3haha08:30
Healotwell, a default install of Xchat have perl/python/tcl binding08:30
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Healotdo you can write script using perl/python to work out with Xchat08:31
carlkdli: WvDial isn't what I was looking for, but it might help and is on the CD, i think...08:31
dstryri just need a plugin for this08:31
Healotyou mean pppd/pppconfig etc?08:31
dlicarlk, I like wvdial, but it's not on the CD08:32
Littl3_indianHi08:32
Healotwvdial is in the default install CD...08:32
dstryri just loaded that perl sys info, but how come theres no dialog and stuff?08:32
Littl3_indianI am trying ubuntu installation for first time and am thru with it08:32
Littl3_indianbut now i have a problem08:32
dstryrthat you can press so that it shows your sys info?08:32
dliHealot, you sure?08:32
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Healotyes...08:33
Littl3_indianthe system stops @ startinghotplug subsystem08:33
Healotcheckout synaptic... the default package list HAS WVDIAL08:33
dliHealot, how to install it? "apt-cdrom add", "apt-get install wvdial"?08:33
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Healotup to you? should i ask ubotu ?08:33
Healot!tell dli about synaptic08:34
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dliHealot, the first thing I tried was wvdial, quite dismayed, "wvdial can not be found"08:34
Littl3_indianI have selected only onboard grafix as suggested in a forum but that too does not work08:34
Extreme_UnctionAnybody wanna play Contra 3 on Zsnes netplay?08:34
Littl3_indianAny help ?08:34
Healotnot really my problem hehe08:34
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Healotwell, it is the default CD install though08:35
Healotuse synaptic, help you less with the browsing for package08:35
Keyframecan you recommend good news reader for ubuntu/gnome ?08:35
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dliHealot, thanks :)08:35
Healotmutt? well, you can use evolution///08:36
jordo23whatup yall08:36
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Littl3_indianDid any one have a same problem  with Starting Hotplug Subsystem08:37
Jdralphsi think i broke something with opengl & my nvidia drivers.  I was having a probelm with the prepackaged driver from universe; my cpu usage randomly went up to 100% and stayed there -- top blamed xorg.  anyway so i made a new kernal and used the nvidia installer after uninstalling the old ones via apt-get, and now when i boot up everything that uses opengl seg faults.  anyone know what i could look into to fix it?08:37
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carlkdli: WvDial is on my dapper CD08:37
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carlktime for bed.. see ya all later08:37
chuckypwow im runk who needs help?08:37
freeone3000Hello, I'm trying to install Java on someone with no knowledge of Ubuntu. I have root and all, I just have no idea why it's asking me for a library.08:37
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Littl3_indianMe needs help :(08:37
Healotand the package name is "wvdial"08:37
Jdralphsaye me too08:38
freeone3000Why would it need one, and how do I tell it that it doesn't or that it already has it or that I can somehow get it?08:38
Healotwhich java package are you trying to install? the ubuntu's or Sun's?08:38
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dstryrwhere i can find the folder /lspci ?08:39
Extreme_UnctionIt comes with the GNU Interpreter for Java version 1.4.1 I believe!08:39
dlicarlk, my mistake wvdial is there :) thanks08:39
polpakubotu tell freeone3000 about java08:39
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dstryror how to search for it?08:39
dstryr>08:39
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carlkdli: hope it works for you - now I can sleep better08:39
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freeone3000It says it can't find 'java-package'... is the wiki out of date? What's your guys's version of Debian's 'non-free' keyword?08:42
Healotis there such dir "/lspci"?08:43
freeone3000So I can edit /etc/apt/sources.list and all so it will show up...08:43
Healotor are you trying to run lspci (PCI bus tool)?08:43
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Extreme_Unctionfreeone300008:43
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KeyframeI have mounted a samba drive over network in fstab.. but when I startup machine it asks me for password (there is none).. what should I put into options in fstab? if I make password='' it doesn't mount08:43
Extreme_UnctionIt's much easier just to get Sun Java deb package08:43
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Extreme_Unctionjava-package is problematic at actually making the packages, anyway.08:44
dstryrim trying to edit the line from xchat plugin08:44
dstryrcoz it doesn't show my vid card08:44
freeone3000Where can I get the sun java deb package?08:44
Healotfreeone3000, in ubuntu, it's "universe"08:44
Extreme_Unctionfreeone3000: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb08:44
Extreme_UnctionUse dpkg to install it08:45
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GullyFoylethe java-package install thing went pefectly for me on amd54 kubuntu08:45
Healotfreeone3000, you can make your own... install make-jpkg08:45
freeone3000Thank you.08:45
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Extreme_UnctionOh, your on amd64.. freeone?08:45
Extreme_UnctionThat's for i38608:45
Healotdl the sun' jre/jdk make08:45
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Littl3_indianCan any one please give me any solution on my problem with HotPlug Subsystem @ startup08:45
dstryrand yeah, in /sbin dir, which one is your vid card?08:46
Extreme_Unctionfreeone3000: That's not a good package if your on x86_64/x6408:46
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curley_suehi, how do I run a root priviliged command in a script without having the need for pw request?08:46
dstryrsudo ?08:46
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curley_suein a script?08:46
Extreme_Unctionsu root08:47
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Extreme_UnctionYou still have to enter it, but only once :\08:47
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Keyframehow can I make blank password in fstab?08:47
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curley_sueI need to add a key shortcut to fluxbox key file. the action needs su priviliges, how is that done without the need for a pw everytime?08:48
Extreme_Unctionadd it to your bash file?08:48
curley_sueExtreme_Unction, I dont understand08:48
_amincan someone please tellme the list of terminal commands and their functionz ?08:48
graemein upgrading from 5.04 to breezy, i have changed the in the synaptic package manager all the repos that ended with hoary to breezy, but i am still not getting a full upgrade08:49
Extreme_Unction - /home/name/bashrc are things executed at bash startup08:49
graememy ubuntu still says its running hoary08:49
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curley_sue_amin, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands , http://www.computerhope.com/index.htm08:51
EnignonI'm not too sure if I'm just looking in all the wrong places or not, but I'm having a bit of trouble getting 5.10 to install on a *cringe* celeron 400, it's locking up or appears to be after successfully starting the "kernal log daemon". Any suggestions not involving a sledge hammer appreciated.08:51
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Littl3_indianWhats Hotplug  ? USB?08:51
mikebotif i want to link soemthing to a program ran with wine, can i do: "ln -s win /media/blah.exe ~/Desktop"?08:51
mikebot*wine08:51
Enignon^kernel I mean08:51
FlannelKing_amin: go to /usr/bin and take a look.08:52
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GeorgeAScottis there a quick and easy way to change the permisions to a directory including all files, folders and sub-folders08:52
FlannelKingGeorgeAScott: you want the -R flag for chmod (are you really sure you want to change their permission?)08:53
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Littl3_indianI have googled for my problem but i dont find a proper result. Many seem to have this problem anyways08:53
GeorgeAScottits for my music directory, when i copy a cd to my harddrive08:53
GeorgeAScottit only lets me read and execute.... (sorry for pressing enter)08:54
dstryrin /sbin dir, which one is your vid card?08:54
FlannelKingGeorgeAScott: the -R flag is whta youre looking for.08:54
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GeorgeAScottso i would type sudo chmod -r /dir/yada yada....?08:55
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FlannelKingGeorgeAScott: chmod -R [mask]  /path/to/stuff08:56
FlannelKingshouldn't have tosudo, since they're owned by you.08:56
FlannelKingand, NOT sudoing is a good thing, since if you accidentally point somewhere wrong, you'll know.08:56
FlannelKinginstead of chmod'ing your entire harddrive 777 ;)08:57
GeorgeAScotthaha right... ok... so what's [mask] ?08:57
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Healotmy mask is made from plastic :)08:57
Enignon*chuckles* I get the feeling a sledge hammer is the most obvious solution then to my query08:58
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FlannelKingGeorgeAScott: 1+2+4 depending on which flags you want.  Google it ;)  Since that'll help you determine exactly what you want anyway08:58
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Healotthe term's "octal"08:58
GeorgeAScottalrighty.. thanks a bunch.. hehe made from plastic...08:58
FlannelKingHealot: it's Octal yeah, but that's not the important information09:00
dstryrwhat would be the problem when i turned my volume on, it says you don't have GStreamer plugins installed or you don't have a sound configured09:00
dstryrwhat's this?09:00
dstryrwhat's GStreamer?09:00
CineFX3D_how can I install Wifi support? I have a dell laptop.. and when I do iwconfig I don't see wlan device09:00
Healotit is important... who knows, if the chmod 999 ?09:00
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FlannelKingHealot: they could be hex, you can't tell.  might have a new flag someday09:02
Psykushey, I just installed unreal tournament 2004 (linux version of course), and i can't seem to get sound working on it, any suggestions?09:02
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Healothehe... if they have FS like WInFS or NTFS :)09:02
slvmchndamn, there are some nice screen savers on ubuntu09:02
Psykusthe game says it uses "OpenAL" for sound, which doesn't sound familiar09:02
slvmchnevery couple days i see a new one09:02
Healotin mean in linux world09:02
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FlannelKingNah, Healot, theyre just bits.  Nothign saying there can't be four.09:03
dstryroh its that alsa stuff09:03
Littl3_indianAnyone can please gimme some info on the issue with hotplug subsystem09:03
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Healotwhat FS has UUID?09:03
Healotis it JFS? Reiser?09:04
jrsimshey, when I run startx, it's saying i don't have permission. How do I change that?09:04
dstryrey Healot09:04
Psykuslooking in the package manager, it says libraries for openal are already installed09:04
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CineFX3D_how can I install Wifi support? I have a dell laptop.. and when I do iwconfig I don't see wlan device09:04
Healotthe support proggies are there, but you didn't install the driver for you wifi card yet09:05
Healotyou can 'iwconfig' right?09:05
CineFX3D_yeah09:05
CineFX3D_but I don't see wlan device09:05
dstryranyone?09:05
dstryrwhat would be the problem when i turned my volume on, it says you don't have GStreamer plugins installed or you don't have a sound configured09:06
Healotsure/// driver is not loaded yet///09:06
CineFX3D_how where should I load it? :/09:06
Healotdstryr, what program are u using to change vol?09:06
dstryrVolume Control09:06
dstryrfrom the taskbar09:06
Healotfirst thing, get the driver, for Dell, i think mostly Intel's Wifi?09:06
Psykusso, anyone have a clue why ut2004 is being silent?09:06
CineFX3D_yes, probably09:06
Healotdstryr, can you here any sound?09:07
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dstryrno09:07
dstryrno volume09:07
Healotwell, without changing the vol09:07
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jaawooddepends on the card, some dells are broadcom chipsets, and you have to use ndiswrapper to install the driver09:07
dstryri think i need to install that alsa/gstreamer stuff09:07
Healotok, that means you haven't configure your soundcard yet, dstryr09:07
dstryrhow do you do that?09:07
Healotwell, for intel's new 2200 wifi, you need "ndiswrapper"09:07
EnignonI'm not too sure if I'm just looking in all the wrong places or not, but I'm having a bit of trouble getting 5.10 to install on a *cringe* celeron 400, it's locking up or appears to be after successfully starting the "kernel log daemon". Any suggestions not involving a sledge hammer appreciated.09:08
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CineFX3D_lscpi says broadcom09:08
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dstryrhow do you configure your soundcard?09:09
Healotdstryr, usually it's autoconfigured, during install... but if you cannot find any after install, probably your sound card not supported by the kernel09:09
CineFX3D_should I go with ndiswrapper then?09:09
Healotneed to find the driver and compile it manually... though, this is one is tough...09:10
HealotCineFX3D_, yes...09:10
dstryri can see my soundcard when in lspci09:10
dstryr-when09:10
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Littl3_indianCan any one please give me any solution why my system stops while Satrting HotPlug Subsystem @ startup09:10
Littl3_indianStarting*09:10
Healotsure...09:11
Littl3_indian:)09:11
FlannelKingLittl3_indian: have you tried google?  since I don't think anyonehere knows.09:11
Littl3_indianya i did09:11
Healotbtu there is no dsp driver for your sound card, can you tell me what's the model of that?09:11
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GeorgeAScottFlannelKing: is this a suitable mask for what i was wanting to do?   drwxr-xr-x09:11
FlannelKingthat'd be 75509:11
FlannelKingor, shorthand ;)09:11
Enignonno clue, mine is hanging after starting the kernel log daemon *shrugs* google was no hel so I'm thinking a 10 pound sledge right now...or maybe a different video card on the off chance09:12
Littl3_indianI found a solution  found said Select Onboard gfx whihc i did and no help09:12
Littl3_indianIs it a issue with the gfx cad ?09:12
Littl3_indiancard*09:12
FlannelKingLittl3_indian: you actually might have better luck asking in ##linux, since that doesn't sound like an ubuntu specific issue09:12
FlannelKingwell, apart from I really don't think anyone who is !idle here knows09:13
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Healotdstryr, try to reconfigure you "linux-sound-base"09:13
Healotwhat's the command line again?09:13
Littl3_indianWell i used a boot cd on same machine which went fine .09:13
Healotdpkg --reconfigure linux-sound-base ? is this right?09:13
Littl3_indianNow just after installation it behave like this :(09:14
dstryrsudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base09:14
dstryri think09:14
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Healotok... try that then...09:14
Eidanhi all09:14
Healoti usually use synaptic...09:14
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Healotif you still can't get sound, i think the kernel doesnot have module for your sound card...09:15
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dstryric09:15
kjonHello there: I would like to know how is possible to switch the video output from the LCD to the vga port of a notebook.09:15
dstryrwhen you update that linux-sound-base, do you have to restart X >09:16
dstryr?09:16
_aminwhat is the command to unzip any .tgz file ?09:16
dstryrtar -xzvf file.tgz09:16
dstryror tar file.tgz09:16
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kjonmy videocard is an Intel 82852/855GM09:17
Healotdstryr, no, no need to restart X09:17
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dstryrbut how do you know if its updated?09:17
Healotopen vol manager again...09:18
dstryrwill the Volume Control pop up?09:18
dstryroh ic09:18
Healotbuilt-in intel huh09:18
GeorgeAScottFlannelKing: well i think 755 is what i want.  now that will affect all the files in the folder and subfolders?09:18
miveczhow to isntall a gtk2.x theme in  xfce409:18
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mivecz?09:18
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miveczinstall*09:19
FlannelKingGeorgeAScott: that's what the -R flag is for09:19
FlannelKingmakes it recursive09:19
Healottrue...09:19
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GeorgeAScottoh ok... sorry09:19
Healot-R the capital R :)09:19
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miveczhow to install a gtk2.x theme in  xfce409:19
mivecz?09:19
Healotapt-get install?09:19
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mivecztheme man09:20
FlannelKingmivecz: apt-get search xfce4 find the package you want09:20
FlannelKingthen  apt-get install [package name] 09:20
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Healotsee :)09:20
Eidanguys someone can help me installing XGL please...^09:21
Eidanor just tell me how to check if i've the latesta driver for nvidia and if is all configured well?09:21
miveczi download  a theme  from  a web site  how?09:21
Healotyou need this package first "gtk2-engines-xfce"09:21
kujaEidan: Why not just use the nvidia packages in the Ubuntu respitory?09:21
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HealotGtk+-2.0 theme engine for Xfce09:22
pinpointstart gnome?09:22
Eidankuja09:22
Eidanhow?09:22
pinpointdoes that work09:22
miveczgtk2-engines-xfce is already the newest version09:22
Eidancan i query u for a second?09:22
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kujasudo apt-get install nvidia-glx09:22
chafehow do i set root password09:22
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pinpointpasswd su09:23
kujaThen all you have to do is sudo modprobe nvidia, after that, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change whatever driver to use 'nvidia'09:23
pinpointpasswd root09:23
chafewhat?09:23
Healotsudo passwd root09:23
Healotin first install09:23
chafeno09:23
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miveczHealot gtk2-engines-xfce is already the newest version09:23
FlannelKing!rootsudo09:23
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.09:23
sonasks what will be faster - scsi u320 on mirror or sata on raid 5 ??09:23
TheMikHello all, I just popped in for a quick ?......I was wondering if 5.10 would run decently on a K6-450 Mhz puter (w 75 mhz FSB)09:23
chafesudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()09:23
FlannelKingchafe, read that.09:24
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chafethanks FlannelKing09:24
HealotTheMik, yes it can. slow however with X running09:24
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TheMikSlower than XP?09:24
Eidankuja09:24
Eidanbut when i restart09:24
HealotYES :()09:24
Eidani've to see the white nvidia  screen?09:25
FlannelKingTheMik: You might want to think of a non gnome/KDE window manager, but yeah, it'll run.09:25
Eidanso it works?09:25
chafewait a minute09:25
kujaEidan: Yes, it works.09:25
chafeno this isnt working09:25
Healotwithout X, fast as a "supercomputer", not literally speaking09:25
joelbryananyone here knows how to use sed?09:25
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Eidanif the white nvidia screen doesen't come out09:25
miveczHealot gtk2-engines-xfce is already the newest version09:25
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chafei can use sudo to set the root password at first install09:25
Eidanthere's something wrong?09:25
chafe?09:25
chafeor09:25
TheMikWell this is for my 4 yr olds puter, I want the most user friendly interface09:25
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TheMikand what is "X"09:25
FlannelKingchafe: why are you setting the root password?09:25
Healotmivecz, i wasn't talking bout the versio, please stop repeating09:25
CineFX3D_fucking broadcom09:26
chafeFlannelKing i just installed09:26
Healothaha09:26
pinpointchafe, usually sudo passwd root will do09:26
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HealotCineFX3D_, no, fuck intel instead :)09:26
pinpointjust type in your password for the current first users09:26
pinpointuser*09:26
CineFX3D_fuck'em all :)09:26
ohy4so if my kernel doesn't have module for my sound card, is there any other way to fix this?09:26
FlannelKingchafe: Ubunt doesn't really use a root password, we have different scheme.  did you read that page?09:26
chafei have NOT set a root password yet09:26
miveczi have  the  gtk-engine  so what  after09:26
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FlannelKingchafe there is NO root password in ubuntu by default09:26
Healotohy4, find the driver at manufacturer's site...09:26
chafehmm..09:26
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chafeyea ill read more09:26
edward_hello all09:27
kujaTheMik: X is the window system.09:27
pinpointsudo does just fine09:27
Healotand compile it... this is the tough part09:27
joelbryanCineFX3D_:  are you refering to NIC card?09:27
ohy4then what09:27
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chafei started reading, looking for something like knoppix uses09:27
CineFX3D_wlan in dell09:27
Healothis broadcom wifi09:27
ohy4what you do after compiling09:27
spaceyTheMik: X handles all the graphics. So itdoesn't matter which window manager you take (gnome, kde, xfce) you always use it09:27
edward_is there a epository of drivers for ubuntu anywhere?09:27
pinpointCineFX3D_, for a dell lappy09:27
edward_*depository09:27
TheMikahh thx, so it is a needed thing then09:27
Healotohy4, then if compilation exits fin, then you should have a working sound card?09:27
pinpointmine never worked even after ndiswrapper09:27
kujaTheMik: If you want a graphical environment, it's necessary, yep.09:27
CineFX3D_pinpoint: yeah.. I'm messing with ndiswrapper now09:27
joelbryanCineFX3D_:  do you get disconnected after 1 minute? I have a solution.09:27
ohy4what?09:28
TheMikwell for a 4 yr old it def is lol09:28
Healotnot all wifi drivers works with ndiswrapper...09:28
pinpointi had to get a netgear card09:28
CineFX3D_joelbryan: I get no connection yet.. still on drivers :)09:28
pinpointit works like a charm09:28
chafeoh goD09:28
chafeOh god09:28
chafe:cry:09:28
kujaTheMik: You sure a 4 year old should be using Linux? It's not bad, but maybe something like Edubuntu :)09:28
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derek_57hgfhello09:28
Healoti recommend you to get a netgear or the older broadcom wifi card...09:28
kujaTheMik: Edubuntu puts a high focus on education.09:28
chafeokay so i dont need to set anything really?09:28
chafebut09:29
ohy4its 3:28 AM i got school tomorrow09:29
miveczwhere to  change  the  theme in  xfce4?09:29
edward_anyone using a cmedia soundcard?09:29
joelbryanCineFX3D_:  yeh, I have 2 NIC's that barely supported in kernel 2.1609:29
ohy4ill ask yall later09:29
GeorgeAScottFlannelKing: the app "nautilus" wasn't supposed to quit unexpectedly after chmoding was it?09:29
RemyLaptophi guys.  question: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ?09:29
chafewhen i press the Administrator Mode button, i get "Su returned with an error."09:29
TheMikoh really?  I will check it out, and yes a 4 yr should be on linux, keep them out of corp corruption as long as I can ;)09:29
FlannelKingGeorgeAScott: laugh, what did you do?09:29
_aminwhat is the command to unzip any .tgz file ?09:29
chafegreat error thanks09:29
pinpointtar zxf filename.tgz09:29
RemyLaptopI recently installed the art thing, but that's the only thing I can think of ...09:29
FlannelKingchafe: are you running ubuntu?09:30
GeorgeAScotthrmmm i did chmod -R 755 /path/to/blah09:30
chafei am running kubuntu09:30
HealotCorrupt your children with GNU/Linux hehe09:30
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chafesudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()09:30
chafeokay?09:30
FlannelKingchafe: did you type your user password at the prompt it gave you?09:30
kujaTheMik: You might as well tack on a few programming languages too :)09:30
derek_57hgfi am having problems with the nforce audio driver from nvidia.can any one help me?I've followed the instructions exactly but I can not get alsa to work and oss stops working after about 5 seconds.09:30
TheMikLOL09:30
chafeFlannelKing No prompt..09:30
TheMiknot sure if she' ready for that09:30
kujaTheMik: I know a kid that's been using Linux since near birth, now he works for a good company programming for big bucks.09:30
RemyLaptop!tell derek_57hgf about easyubuntu09:30
TheMiksweet my retirement set then09:31
kujaTheMik: =)09:31
chafethere is no prompt09:31
RemyLaptopquestion: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ?09:31
RemyLaptopI recently installed the art thing, but that's the only thing I can think of ...09:31
miveczwhere to go to  change  the  theme in  xfce4?09:31
GeorgeAScottya know... my nautilus quits unexpectedly quite often... why!09:31
chafejust "sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()09:31
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pinpointi got that error before09:31
derek_57hgfRemyLaptop: thanks,I will give that a try09:31
pinpointthats was typing localhost for my hostname09:31
RemyLaptopnp09:31
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pinpointor using a name09:31
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FlannelKingTheMik: don't waste time on Edubuntu.  Educational games are hot air.  Get the kid outside playing in the dirt and stuff.  Thats what really gets their minds going.09:31
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TheMikdirt would be nice09:32
sonasksyeah..09:32
chafehmm okay09:32
FlannelKingchafe: I don't know.  Did you setup a hostname during the install? try googling it.09:32
GeorgeAScottclosing and/or restarting nautilus only brings up the pop-up that it has quit unexpectedly... again09:32
chafeyeah, i did09:32
pinpointdo a name?09:32
chafemy hostname is set up as lerptop09:32
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pinpointi see09:32
TheMikMichigan, central part just on the otherside of the great lakes = lots of snow09:32
chafei replaced "lerptop" with "hostname" when i pasted the error09:32
RemyLaptopquestion: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ?09:32
FlannelKingGeorgeAScott: which folder did you chmod?09:32
RemyLaptop!x09:32
ubotuit has been said that x is a portable, network-transparent window system.09:33
curley_sueHELP how can I run ' /etc/acpi/sleep.sh sleep' without the need for PW?09:33
chafei havent even touched the damn thing yet09:33
TheMikso outside time is limited atm09:33
pinpointRemyLaptop, erm runlevel 5?09:33
GeorgeAScottFlannelKing: /media/windows/Muzak09:33
RemyLaptoppinpoint ?09:33
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GeorgeAScottbut i meant that even before i chmoded anything.. nautilus would crash on a regular basis09:33
RemyLaptoppinpoint, what do you mean by that ?09:34
CineFX3D_in ifconfig.. hwaddr is MAC address?09:34
FlannelKingTheMik: eh, just doing stuff, it can be in the house, whantot.  Get them interested in stuff, real world stuff, don't just plop them infront of "educational" things.  Schools teach 'information' they need to learn to enjoy learning first.09:34
chafeoh this is great09:34
chafethe error i am getting, from sudo, is because /etc/hosts does not have the hostname lerptop in it09:34
chafeso09:34
chafei guess i should edit that with sudo right?09:34
chafewell shit..09:35
FlannelKingchafe: you running breezy? or dapper?09:35
chafebreezy09:35
ddonkyi have a hp 'internet/media-type' keyboard with all the buttons for volume and dvd controls, anyone know how to map those keys to totem and rythmbox?09:35
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RemyLaptop!runlevel09:35
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop09:35
TheMikOh I know but she should learn puters as well ;)09:35
pinpointchafe, hostname [newhostname] 09:35
pinpointRemyLaptop, in inittab i think09:35
TheMikand with her attention span she lasts for about 30 mins a day lol09:35
FlannelKingTheMik: aye.  But don't do the whole 'educational games' give her a command line and a basic interpreter.09:36
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kujaNow THAT is a way to raise a kid.09:36
chafepinpoint funny i must be root to do that too09:36
ddonkyhmmm actually the volume whell already works09:36
kujaIf I have a kid, I'm going to make him/her learn C :P09:36
pinpointsudo hostname myhostname09:36
RemyLaptoppinpoint, could I get the "for dummies" version of that ?09:36
TheMikLOL she can only spell her name atm09:36
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chafepinpoint ...sudo is giving me an error, because the hostname is not in /etc/hosts09:36
derek_57hgfRemyLaptop: I dont see anything about the audio driver in there.Is it there?09:36
RemyLaptopdunno09:36
GeorgeAScottatm is an odd name for a child... no offense09:36
RemyLaptopderek_57hgf, I would assume it gets installed with the video driver...09:37
derek_57hgfi have the video driver installed already09:37
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kujaTheMik: Trust me, make her learn C, and she will be paying you for life :P09:37
FlannelKingkuja: first real experience I had was BASIC programming on the atari 2600, I was 5.  Its good stuff.09:37
RemyLaptophmk, I'm stumped then :)09:37
TheMikshe is slow so we kept it simple :P09:37
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derek_57hgfthanks anyways09:37
pinpointRemyLaptop, edit > /etc/inittab change runlevel to 509:37
chafewow!!09:37
chafethis is great!!09:38
kujaFlannelKing: I know a kid just like that (as I mentioned earlier), totally obsessive and now codes for good cash for a living (dropped out of high school though)09:38
chafelollercaust!09:38
pinpoint?09:38
chafehow can i fix this error that sudo is giving me without being root?09:38
TheMikShe will more than likely be an actress/singer w/ her personality09:38
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pinpointcan you edit chafe?09:38
chafeedit what?09:38
RemyLaptopta09:38
chafeedit /etc/hosts? no09:38
pinpoint/etc/hosts09:38
chafeuse hostname hostname? no09:38
chafei cannot09:38
pinpointvi /etc/hosts09:38
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pinpointcrap, i cant remember what i did for that error09:39
pinpointi think i reinstalled O_O09:39
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RemyLaptop!inittab09:39
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop09:39
FlannelKingTheMik: so, why you worried about teaching her computers?  She's four.  Shes a kid, she'll be more proficient than you at what she wants to do on the computer in a day... well, once she's old enough.09:39
chafepinpoint yea definitely cant do any editing of /etc/hosts09:39
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cwilluwhat would the bash equivilent of dir *.log* /s be?09:39
chafefunny i havent touched the damn install09:40
Psykusare there any good GUI based download managers for linux? perhaps a frontend to wget?09:40
FlannelKingchafe: if you haven't touched it, reinstall.09:40
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FlannelKingchafe: actually, you installed kubuntu?  Try asking over there.  #kubuntu09:40
sonasksin my opinion - kid should go thrwoing stuff, play in a dirt, ride and crash on bikes - that`s a damn mindstorm !09:40
TheMikOh well my sis was going to throw away her old puter and just took it and set it up for her, so she could get on Nickjr and disney just to play around09:40
kujaPsykus: If all else fails, the Linux community would appreciate your contribution if you made one for us :)09:40
pinpointcwillu,  ls *.log*09:40
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cwilluthat's recursive?09:41
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kujals -R09:41
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sonasksmostly -R is recursive09:41
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pinpointyeah09:41
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kujarm -Rf, chmod -R, chown -R, ls -R09:42
kujaAll -R :)09:42
Psykusi found one for KDE, http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15983.html09:42
TheMikBut I hate Win98 and xp is to slow on there so I thought Linux would be an better alt for it, but wanted something with an easy interface so I researched and chose Ubuntu09:42
chafei am asking but there is NOBODY in there09:42
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pinpointstill cant edit09:42
kujaTheMik: Have you installed Ubuntu yet?09:42
TheMikTrust me she does plenty of playtime, like I said she only will be on it for about 30 mins a day and gets bored09:43
TheMikNo not yet09:43
cwilluahh, much better, thanks09:43
kujaUbuntu is easy enough to set up, not different from Debian (IMO)09:43
chafewhat the FUCK09:43
pinpoint?09:43
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kujaIn fact, I'd say the Ubuntu install is exactly like Debian, except that it installed ubuntu-desktop. -_-09:44
chafei wouldnt say that kuja, i really really wouldnt09:44
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FlannelKingkuja: you haven't been under the hood then, have you?09:44
CineFX3D_haha, ndiswrapper :))09:44
kujaThe only difference I've seen in the install process is that in Debian I have to manually apt-get install gnome09:45
CineFX3D_thanks guys for all the cool help09:45
TheMikWell I know nothing of linux except from 1996 when I used, but alot has changed since09:45
pinpointchafe, are you in X09:45
chafeyes pinpoint09:45
CineFX3D_now only tell me if there is a wifi widget or something like that I can monitor signal strength and activity09:45
pinpointctrl+alt+f109:45
CineFX3D_alt+f709:45
Psykusis ubuntu going to get a graphical installer anytime soon?09:45
pinpointto jump back do f709:45
chafeyeah09:46
kujaPsyberOne: Next release, Dapper09:46
chafelogin as my regular self again?09:46
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pinpointsure09:46
pinpointuse sudo09:46
chafeokay well sudo gives me the same error, of course09:46
pinpointit will take your  normal user pass09:46
Psykuswrong nick complete, but cool :P09:46
kujaPsykus*09:46
kuja:)09:46
chafei didnt expect that to change09:46
pinpoint?09:46
chafesudo still does not work; is there something else you were going to suggest?09:47
Psykusi always thought that was kind of strange that ubuntu had a non-graphical installer09:47
chafeam i jumping ahead of myself like an idiot?09:47
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kujaPsykus: It is, actually.09:47
kujaI think it's kind of strange Ubuntu likes to follow Debian's release dates.09:48
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pinpointyes, editing /etc/hosts :)09:48
chafeim still the same user ...?09:48
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pinpointchare reboot into recovery mode09:48
TheMikUbuntu has no live cd I take it?09:49
pinpointroot automatically09:49
kujaTheMik: It does.09:49
TheMikOh even better09:49
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kuja!livecd09:49
chafeoh okay09:49
GullyFoylePsykus are you using kubuntu? because i had that problem09:49
chaferecovery mode aye09:49
kujaWhat's the damn tell command09:49
kuja!tell TheMik about livecd09:49
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kujaThere we go09:49
danielnewbieI tried to open Bittorrent, but a window popped up asking me to locate Bittorrent meta file, Does anyone know where I can find this (or do I have to download it)?09:49
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pinpoint127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost <yourhostname>09:49
Psykusfor ut2004?09:49
TheMikThx :)09:50
pinpointchafe, then reboot09:50
Littl3_indianNo help on HotPlug Subsystem anywhere :(09:50
PsykusGullyFoyle, did you mean the ut2004 sound issue?09:50
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GullyFoylePsykus: yup09:50
jessy_can somebody help me on how configure pureftpd in order to use another port that 2109:51
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Psykusoh, it decided to work all of a sudden09:51
Psykusand no, i'm on standard ubuntu/gnome09:51
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CineFX3D_is there a wifi widget or something like that I can monitor signal strength and activity?09:52
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TheMikHmm the guide is for a linux based machine, I will search for a Xp based one (Isobutster comes to mind)09:52
GullyFoylePsykus: if you are using kde it will lock up alsa for a specific period of time until it's not being used. yo can change that amount of time to 5 seconds or so, so you don't have to wait.09:53
Psykusweird, it's not wanting to work now, no clue what's going on09:53
chafeeeegh09:53
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pinpointjessy09:53
pinpointjessy_09:53
frank_whats a goog wifi manager for ubuntu09:53
sonasksgod i hate alsa so much...09:53
GullyFoylePsykus: that's why i asked if you were using kubuntu09:53
Mirvis anyone using Ibook G4? do you have any idea how difficult is to change a hard drive in it to another one?09:53
pinpointtoo bad he quit09:53
Psykusspeaking of sound, is there any way to disable the system beep, and make it play a sound through the soundcard instead?09:53
pinpoint-S xx.xx.xx.xx,port09:53
Psykusah09:53
MirvI'd love to buy a IBook G4 (12") and run Ubuntu on it, but faster&larger hdd would be nice09:54
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pinpointchafe, ?09:54
Cliffdo people actually use this09:54
Synshow do i get pine?09:54
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Synsits not available through synaptic09:54
sixslapDoes anyone have a good link for idendt.conf help?09:54
GullyFoyleSyns: go to the woods? just kidding09:54
Synslol09:54
sixslapneed example conf of a enabled identd09:55
Cliffwww.google.com09:55
Synsdoes ubuntu not support pine?09:55
sixslaplmao09:55
sixslapthats funnny09:55
kujaPeople buy Macs and put Linux on it? Ahaha09:55
chafeCliff sometimes09:55
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kujaWhat a waste of money :)09:55
Cliffthats kinda whacked09:55
Psykusok, now no sound is working09:55
sonasksthat`s pretty dumb09:55
chafeyeah i just installed just now09:56
Psykuslinux sound seems to always be spotty for me09:56
slvmchnwhy is that dumb09:56
sonasksputting linux on Mac - damn... Mac was born from Linux09:56
Cliffi've had trouble with it09:56
sixslaplinux sound kicks ass09:56
pinpointchafe, work?09:56
chafeand im still kinda debating wether i should keep using this09:56
slvmchnif i had a g4 laptop i'd probably want to dual boot ubuntu w/osx09:56
sixslapactully09:56
sonasksyou practically got Linux on it man09:56
Cliffhippie09:56
Psykusi might dual-boot OSX/ubuntu09:56
Cliffhippie09:56
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slvmchnlol09:56
GullyFoyleMac OSX is FreeBSD3.3 kernel09:56
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slvmchnis it really, that's interesting09:56
chafeyes it worked pinpoint, but the "Administrator Mode" in my settings... my wifi options are still all greyed out09:56
pinpointwhat card?09:57
frank_how can i update breezy to latest dapper release?09:57
kujaSo someone would waste good money to buy a Mac and put Linux on it, when you can get like 2 computers of the same quality for a similar price and just put Linux on both of them? >>>WOW<<<09:57
Littl3_indianWell while installation i was'n asked for a superuser password09:57
chafehey Cliff09:57
Cliffwhat09:57
Littl3_indianNow i is asking09:58
Cliffwhat?09:58
chafedo you live in florida09:58
sonasksit`d a password for a user you are on right now09:58
Littl3_indianIs there any default pwd09:58
Littl3_indian?09:58
Cliffnope09:58
Cliffi live in utica09:58
Littl3_indiani tried that09:58
Littl3_indianno help09:58
chafeutica09:58
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chafehow is that09:58
Cliffutica ny 1350109:58
Cliffwe have a brewery and im drunk09:59
pinpointLittl3_indian, installation of...09:59
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chafehave you used ubuntu09:59
sonasksaren`t the Red marlboro`s the best or what ??09:59
Littl3_indianya09:59
sixslapcliff is drunk09:59
GeorgeAScottso are there any other breezy users who have trouble with nautilus quiting unexpectedly... and ff1.5 as well?09:59
Cliffyea im running it now09:59
sixslapsee cliff drink09:59
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sixslapsee cliff fall09:59
Littl3_indianUbuntu09:59
jessy_somebody know how to change the port that used pureftpd from 21 to 51112 ??09:59
Cliffits the best os i've ever used09:59
Tomcat_frank_: Replace breezy with dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get dist-upgrade09:59
sixslapsee cliff roll around in his own piss09:59
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sonasksserach for port in proftpd.conf09:59
Cliffwhy10:00
Tomcat_frank_: But please don't do it... dangerous, break your system, etc.10:00
Littl3_indianPinpoint:installation of Ubuntu i mean10:00
chafeHEY I SHOULd probably hit Administrator mode in the network interfaces configure.. there isnt an Administrator Mode button on the form??10:00
pinpointjessy_, -S xx.xx.xx.xx,port10:00
sixslapheh sorry i was thinking to myself10:00
chafeoh there it is.. the tables are broken10:00
poningruare there any skating games in the repos?10:00
chafeive never seen that happen before10:00
Cliffwhich version are you using10:00
poningruI tried searching but there arent any10:00
jessy_pinpoint, i've tryed yesterday and if i make this, the password of user account are not the same as i configured them10:01
sonasksman proftpd.conf10:01
chafeyep all the options are still greyed out10:01
chafewooo10:01
pinpointpure-ftpd -a 1007 -B -w -E -O clf:/var/log/pureftpd.log -R -U 022:022 -S xx.xx.xx.xx,xx -p 8000:6552010:01
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Clifftry: su root network-admin10:01
jessy_what is 8000:65520 ?10:01
pinpoint-p for passive10:02
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pinpointyou can take that out10:02
Cliffdo you have root enabled10:02
jessy_root under ubuntu ? or sudo ? :s10:02
sonasksopen the admin utility from terminal with sudo10:02
Cliffi enabled root in ubuntu10:02
pschulz01Greetings.. I have ubuntu 5.10 running on a MiniMac... I would like to add some details to the wiki about the platform (I can't see any listed).10:02
chafeyou did, Cliff ?10:02
Clifffor some reason i dont like sudo10:02
pschulz01Where should I start?10:03
Psykusif sound suddenly stops working, what do you do to fix it?10:03
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FlannelKingrestart your sound daemon10:03
Psykusi tried restarting alsa10:03
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chafei havent been ubuntuing long but i dont like it either10:03
pinpointminimac?10:03
frank_anyway to get my built in media reader to work in ubuntu?10:03
CineFX3D_can I have some sort of Wifi widget in GNOME?10:03
pinpointarg10:03
sonasksmegamac10:03
sonasksbigmac10:03
pschulz01pinpoint: Mac Mini10:03
chafehow did you su root Cliff10:03
Cliffwhat sudo?10:03
Psykushow do you do it?10:03
chafeyeah sudo sucks this isnt working10:03
chafelaff10:03
sonasksyeah - pisses me off too10:03
pinpointchafe, su root10:03
Cliffyou have to enable root in the GDM config10:03
chafesu root authentication failure10:03
sonasksjust sudo10:04
chafeaye10:04
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sonasksnot su root10:04
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pschulz01pinpoint: Small desktop BYO peripherals.10:04
pinpointsu root should work right off the box!!10:04
Cliffshit up the point is we dont like sudo10:04
jessy_Essai avec localhost.localdomain:5111210:04
jessy_Ne peut se connecter  localhost.localdomain: Connexion refuse10:04
GeorgeAScotti guess i'm the only one that nautilus and ff1.5 doesn't like10:04
chafepinpoint no, it shouldnt10:04
chafeits supposed to not work10:04
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sonaskssudo sucks ass soOOO much10:04
chafeyoure supposed to use sudo so that you dont get confused10:05
Cliffthis guy is way off base10:05
chafeim pretty confused10:05
Psykusthere's nothing wrong with sudo10:05
pinpointsonasks, you can always do "sudo zsh/bash/etc"10:05
Cliffalso set the root password10:05
Cliffin admin10:05
Psykuseasier than switching around to root all the time, at least to me10:05
Cliffsudo sucks ass10:05
Psykusand less risky10:05
FlannelKingchafe, you probably want to reinstall.  If you're missing that in your hosts file, who knows what else youre missing.10:05
sonasksburn the sudo !!10:05
sonasks:D10:05
Cliffits not convient if you need to do more than 1 thing10:05
chafeFlannelKing i put it in my hosts file and fixed that,10:06
Cliffand im in the habit of su so its easier10:06
Psykusyeah, it remembers that you used sudo, and doesn't ask for your password10:06
chafeyeah same here10:06
pinpointchafe, atleast you got your gethostname() fixed10:06
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GeorgeAScottyeah but sudo has what a 15 minute memory?10:06
GeorgeAScottis there a way to change the time limit?10:06
chafeyes, thanks to having to reboot and use REcovery mode10:06
Psykus5 extra characters isnt that much10:06
chafeso i could act like root10:06
RemyLaptopquestion: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ?10:06
Cliffi ruined this last week10:06
pinpointyou say that like its a bad thing10:06
Cliffit was tragic10:06
Psykusbut, do whatever you want10:06
RemyLaptopI haven't been able to find anything in the inittab that seemed to be causing it10:06
pinpointyou didnt getyour root power back?10:07
jaroHi there. This doesn't belong here very much but... I have RedBoot environment accessible via serial console. It expects Ctrl+C upon connection. How can I do that?10:07
Cliffi acidently deleted /etc10:07
chafegj10:07
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farousRemyLaptop: try /etc/init.d/gdm restart and see what message you get10:07
Cliffrm -R10:07
PsykusCliff, were you using sudo? :P10:07
Cliffits a powerful thing10:07
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Cliffno10:07
pinpointi smell a reinstall10:08
Cliffi was in su10:08
chafetouche10:08
Cliffreinstall is a small thing10:08
Psykusyeah, that's exactly what sudo was designed to prevent10:08
Cornuhello there10:08
Cliffi had to get my final project of this thing10:08
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RemyLaptopfarous,  * Stopping GNOME Display Manager...  * GNOME Display Manager not running10:08
RemyLaptop                                                          [ ok ] 10:08
RemyLaptop * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                      [fail] 10:08
Cliffthat was an adventure10:08
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Cliffi couldnt ssh or ftp after that because my computer didnt exist after that10:09
brynkthat's a neat trick10:09
farousRemyLaptop: look at dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues10:09
Cliffso i used the ubuntu liveCD10:09
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RemyLaptopwhere would I find this dmesg?10:10
farousRemyLaptop: did you play with gdm.conf10:10
farousRemyLaptop: just type dmesg in a terminal10:10
RemyLaptopnot to the best of my knowledge10:10
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farouslook at the end of the output10:10
chafegreat. GREAT, great10:10
overriderwhat means the abbrevation HTH ?10:10
Psykusis there anyway to grab firefox 1.5.0.1 or whatever the newest version is without completely upgrading to dapper?10:11
RemyLaptopfarous, what am I looking for?10:11
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RemyLaptopthere's a whole bunch of crap in there!10:11
foxpaulis it possible to send an attachment using the "mail" command line?10:11
farousPsykus: eithere download the new firefox to a local bin like me or follow ubotu link10:11
foxpaulit's not a text based attachment, it's a pdf10:11
farous!tell Psykus bout ff1.510:11
farous!tell Psykus bout ff10:12
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Psykusabout, perhaps?10:12
farous!tell Psykus bout firefox10:12
brynkPsykus just download it?10:12
Psykus!tell Psykus about ff1.510:12
chafegoddAMNIT10:12
brynkfarous, i believe so, but don't know how :)10:12
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cafuegoDo not use my name in vain.10:12
cafuegoThank you.10:12
chafesorry cafuego10:12
Psykusi'd rather have apt-get install it10:13
RemyLaptopfarous, there are some warnings about font renderers at the end of the Xorg log file10:13
RemyLaptopdunno if that might have something to do with it10:13
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farousRemyLaptop: that is not a prob normally10:13
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farousi forgot the firefox factoid shortcut :(10:13
cynei have a question, if i have a amd64 kernel, does all of the software take advantage of that?10:13
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farous!+firefox1.510:14
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:14
farousthere it is10:14
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|Bot|any here russian ?10:14
liable!ru10:15
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help10:15
RemyLaptopis there any way I can revert any files that might be causing the issue to default?10:15
RemyLaptop(Without having to wipe and reinstall that is)10:15
|Bot|liable# good )10:15
farousRemyLaptop: gdm.conf have a factory setting file10:15
farousbut if you did not play with it you do not need to restore it10:15
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RemyLaptopnope, haven't played with it10:16
RemyLaptopbut really not sure why it's going to shell at boot !!!10:16
RemyLaptopdang nam it10:16
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eb_Just installed breezy on on a machine with a 16M voodoo graphics card.  Only resolution I have available is 640x480.  Tried making sense of xorg.conf man page but no luck.10:16
farousRemyLaptop: ok go to /var/log/gdm/:0.log might tell you something10:17
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chafewell, the Administrator Mode button doesnt seem to do much for theese grey'd boxes10:17
liableeb_: try setting the bit depth to 16 or 8, read your xorg.log and see what it says about the other resolutions (prolly not enough memory)10:17
iainmhey folks. I've been having an issue that I think is with X - at apparently random intervals, the machine stops responding to clicks and keypresses but the mouse pointer continues to move normally. I can still SSH in, and xorg's CPU usage has gone way up to between 45% and 99% or so. Any ideas on debugging this thing?10:17
chafenow that sudo is working10:17
RemyLaptopthere are a few lines like:10:18
RemyLaptopSkipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o":  No symbols found10:18
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RemyLaptopthat mean anything ?10:18
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farousRemyLaptop: that is normal10:18
RemyLaptophm10:18
RemyLaptopthat's all there is10:18
eb_liable, I doubt it's a memory issue, I've had 1024x768 with badger.  Depth is set to 16 and xorg.conf has all modes from 1280 down in each of the colour modes.10:18
RemyLaptopthat plus warnings about font renderers10:18
CineFX3D_anyone knows if there is a widget for gnome that shows status of wifi?10:19
farousRemyLaptop: gdm did not start maybe because it is already on. did you play with your xorg.conf file?10:19
RemyLaptopfarous, I haven't touched xorg10:19
RemyLaptopit's strange that one day it was working, the next it wasn't....10:19
RemyLaptopthe only thing I remember changing was intalling the art manager10:19
GeorgeAScottnow that i have things the way i want them... things have gotten very boring around here10:19
liableeb_: well, you can doubt, and then you can know.. so check the log..10:19
GeorgeAScottother than naut and ff that is10:20
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RemyLaptopI can start gnome find by typing 'startx' once it's booted10:20
iainmalso, presumably unrelated issue, ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work (although chvt does, and ctrl+alt+f1 and friends work when in terminals that don't have X in them). If I do ctrl+alt+f1 while a terminal has focus, it prints P if nothing running in terminal or ^[O7P otherwise.10:20
RemyLaptopbut it won't boot into gnome...10:20
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Psykusyay, I followed the firefox 1.5 guide, and i'm getting an error when starting firefox10:20
farousRemyLaptop: i have no idea10:20
RemyLaptop:-(10:20
Psykusdavid@ubuntu:~$ firefox10:20
Psykus/opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:20
Psykusoh, nm, forgot to grab that package10:21
Psykusguess i didn't follow the guide too well :P10:21
eb_hsynch out of range, guess the automagic didn't work with my monitor.10:21
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Psykusugh, and now i'm without a browser, can anyone tell me what it says at the top of the page here, for installing that package? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:22
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RemyLaptopquestion: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ? It was working fine one day, then next time I turned the comp on, it booted to shell.10:22
farousPsykus: type mozilla-firefox and you will still have a browser10:22
liableRemyLaptop: check the log10:23
RemyLaptop!log10:23
ubotuRemyLaptop: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:23
RemyLaptopliable, how would I do that ?10:23
Psykusdavid@ubuntu:~$ mozilla-firefox10:23
Psykusrun-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute /opt/firefox/mozilla-firefox-bin.10:23
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farousRemyLaptop: he means your pc logs located at /var/log the one i told you about10:23
NoobieAtLinuxahk10:23
liableRemyLaptop: sudo grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:23
NoobieAtLinuxno EE's shown10:24
liablenone at all?10:24
NoobieAtLinux        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.10:24
NoobieAtLinux(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER10:24
NoobieAtLinuxthat was what that grep returned10:24
liablewhat does startx do?10:24
NoobieAtLinuxit works10:25
NoobieAtLinuxI'm in gnome atm10:25
NoobieAtLinuxit loads it all ok10:25
NoobieAtLinux(as far as I can tell anyway)10:25
liableright, so try downgrading gdm, or better yet, check bug10:25
liabletracking10:25
NoobieAtLinux?10:25
liable!bts10:25
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, liable10:25
NoobieAtLinux!bts10:25
liable!stupid bot10:25
ubotustupid liable10:25
NoobieAtLinuxrofl10:25
liable!bugs10:25
farous:)10:26
NoobieAtLinuxliable, I wouldn't have a clue how to carry out either of your suggestions.10:26
NoobieAtLinux:D10:26
liablemeh, there used to be a bts facvtoid10:26
liablebugzilla..10:26
NoobieAtLinuxhow do I check bug tracking ?10:26
liablea jeez, google ubuntu bug tracking and find a url10:27
NoobieAtLinuxk10:27
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NoobieAtLinuxliable, malone is what the new bug tracking system is called10:27
NoobieAtLinux!malone10:27
liablereally?10:28
liable!listkeys bugs10:28
ubotuFactoid search of 'bugs' by key returned no results.10:28
NoobieAtLinuxapparently10:28
CineFX3D_anyone knows if there is a widget for gnome that shows status of wifi?10:28
NoobieAtLinuxhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11822210:28
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pinpointright top conner10:28
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pinpointif you have connection10:28
farousCineFX3D_: what do you mean by that. the network status applet does that automatically10:29
jo_ewhat program do i run to configure my X server?10:29
CineFX3D_I have wifi going on now.. but I can't ses status of it in gnome10:29
farousCineFX3D_: right click on the top panel and add netowrk monitor10:29
liable!drxx jo_e10:29
ubotuliable: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:29
liablebah10:29
CineFX3D_I have network connection in top right corner saying eth0 is disconencted...10:30
CineFX3D_obviously10:30
jiangguoweiwhat do 'ubuntero' and 'karma' on launchpad.net mean?10:30
liablejo_e: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:30
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tonyyarussoCineFX3D_: Then make sure the network monitor is showing the wifi connection, not the ethernet card or lo.10:30
jo_eliable, thanks10:30
farousCineFX3D_: click on it then select your wirless device obviously :)10:30
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CineFX3D_:)10:30
CineFX3D_idiot :>10:31
tonyyarussojiangguowei: ubuntero means you have digitally signed the Ubuntu Code of Conduct (requires generation and registration of a key), karma is gained by various forms of participation on that site.10:31
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munti78can i use ssh in terminal to transfer files from server to my local machine?10:32
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NoobieAtLinuxliable - how would i downgrade gdm ?10:32
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farousmunti78: scp is your command10:33
Psykusis there anyway to stop mounted devices/drives from appearing on the desktop?10:33
tonyyarussomunti78: Yeah, in the session, scp.10:33
jiangguoweitonyyarusso:thanks10:33
farousPsykus: application>system> what was the name of the editor10:33
farousconfiguration editor10:34
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bimberiPsykus: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor, /appl/nautilus/desktop, volumes_visible10:34
farousPsykus: then select nautilus and look at it there is an option there10:34
bimberi*apps10:34
liableNoobieAtLinux: did you check the bug tracker? there is prolly a way to fix it mentioned. if not, then you will need to use dpkg to install it from your cache if you havent deleted it.10:34
Psykusbimberi, that did it, thanks10:35
tonyyarussobimberi, farous: Any chance that sort of thing will become easier to find / more intuitive for new users in the future?10:35
farousbimberi: thanks am not operating from gnome now :) haven't been for quite a while10:35
NoobieAtLinuxam searching malone atm10:35
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CineFX3D_it would be great if there was gmail notofier for gnome10:35
faroustonyyarusso: i have no idea am just a user10:36
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farousCineFX3D_: there is10:36
CineFX3D_farous: but where?10:36
farousCineFX3D_: though i prefer gnubiff. much more than gmail notifier10:36
CineFX3D_farous: Why?10:36
tonyyarussofarous: 'k.10:37
farousCineFX3D_: because i set it to check gmail and my other emails10:37
CineFX3D_ah I see.. but I have forwarded all my account to gmail anyways :)10:37
farous!find gmail10:37
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farous!+gmail-notify10:37
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous10:37
farous!+find gmail-notify10:38
ubotugmail-notify: (gmail new mail notifier), section universe/mail, is optional. Version: 1.6.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 200 kB10:38
farous^   ^ CineFX3D_10:38
NoobieAtLinux!dpkg10:38
CineFX3D_hm weird, cause download page on gmail says only windows and mac10:38
CineFX3D_or this is not from google then?10:38
bimberiPsykus, farous: np :)10:38
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tonyyarussoCineFX3D_: Seems to be on Sourceforge.10:39
dibblegowhere does a CD get mounted to?10:39
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bimberitonyyarusso: not that i know of :)10:39
farousdibblego: normally /media10:39
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Psykusdibblego, /media/cdrom#10:40
pinpointbah!10:40
dibblegoah there it is, thanks10:40
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Psykusby that I mean, either cdrom, cdrom1, etc etc10:40
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dibblegowhen I try to read of my CD, I get cp: cannot open `repositories.zip' for reading: Permission denied10:40
dibblegowhy come?10:40
graemeis there anyway to limit the bandwidth of apt-get10:40
graeme?10:40
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farousgraeme: what do you mean. Do you mean fewer repos10:41
CineFX3D_too ba dit has no transparency like the original one :(10:41
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graemefarous: no, like keep the bandwidth that it uses to 3KB/s10:41
tonyyarussoCineFX3D_: Give it a few months and see if it gets added.10:42
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Hmmmmfolks i have a S3 ProSavage8 KM266 vga card, can i get XGL going?10:42
kmaAnyone got experience getting hardware accelerated 3d using a non ATI/nVidia card? The card in question is a Intel GMA 900.. is it even possible?10:42
graemefarous: so it doesnt kill all the bandwidth at work, and get me in trouble :-)10:42
munti78farous: I'll look into that, thanks10:42
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farousgraeme: sorry do not know10:42
graemefarous: np, thanks tho10:43
kelmo_lapgraeme, ever used apt-zip before?10:43
farousgraeme: though i think anything is possible if you config iptabs correctly but that is a hell of a job10:43
CineFX3D_tonyyarusso: Like I have a choice :)10:43
farousCineFX3D_: try installing gunubiff and setting it up. you will most prob like it10:44
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Psykushave there been any attempts to create an OSX like "dock" for gnome?10:44
tonyyarussoSo I saw a story on the BBC's site today about cracking Enigma messages, and I followed up on the links to look into the project, and the software author's page said it ran at lowest priority blah blah and so wouldn't disturb the system.  So I thought, heck, let's check it out.  Installed, ran, ten minutes later my memory was completely maxed out and my system was unusable for about half an hour while I tried slowly switching to a 10:45
CineFX3D_farous: is it in repositories?10:45
farousCineFX3D_: yap10:45
CineFX3D_farous: I'll try it then :) I can't expect transparency though, right? :>10:46
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liableNoobieAtLinux: dpkg -i is what you want (man dpkg)10:46
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Merithi all10:46
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dibblegotonyyarusso, crypto geeks can't write software for shit10:47
xophErjust out of interest, what is dapper+1 going to be named? :)10:48
tonyyarussodibblego: Well I guess that's one answer!  Apparently it works okay for someone out there though, because they did crack the first of the three messages (hence the headline), so why not for me?10:48
NgPsykus: I believe there are such things in gdesklets10:49
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jordo23Does anyone know what OpenOffice is built in (which toolkit i.e. jsdk, Qt, Gtk+, etc)?10:49
dibblegotonyyarusso, a classic case of "works on my machine", said the incompetent developer10:49
cubikdiceGtk isnt it?10:49
tonyyarussodibblego: Right.10:49
jordo23is that true?10:49
NgI think Openoffice might be written with its own graphical toolkit that tries to blend into the native one10:49
tonyyarussojordo23: I would be tempted to say gtk, but I'm not going to pretend to be sure about that...10:50
Psykusooh, interesting10:51
jordo23I was just asking because I was reading a lot of flame wars on Gnome vs. KDE, and if OpenOffice was built in GTK+ then Gnome is a clear leader in the workplace.10:51
bimberixophEr: no idea, believe it will use 'E' as it's going alphabetical - some suggestions are being collected here: http://wiki.kaarsemaker.net/UbuntuNames10:51
tonyyarussojordo23: If I am actually right, it would be from seeing it somewhere on their site, so check there, and if you find it, then there's your answer, and if not, I'm nutty, sleep-deprived, and just plain wrong.10:51
Ngjordo23: flame wars are best avoided10:51
mdeboerjordo23: don't read those flame wars. waste of time10:51
Ngjordo23: gnome and kde are different. end of discussion :)10:51
jordo23I like reading them.10:51
jordo23I like the debate in it all.10:52
cubikdicegnome = better thank KDE10:52
cubikdice;)10:52
farousjordo23: i am not sure you can check it on openoffice website but would say most probab qt for this is its default style outside of gnome on every window manager i tried10:52
cubikdiceend of discussion10:52
cubikdicelol10:52
jordo23Ng: Not end of discussion when having to have Windows users adopt it in the workplace.10:52
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tonyyarussojordo23: There is a point there.10:52
Ngjordo23: a flame war isn't going to help you with that and openoffice runs fine in either, so there really is no discussion to be had - pick the one that works/feels/looks best for you and your users10:53
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jordo23Which would you deploy on a domain workstation?10:53
Ngpersonally I would deploy gnome, but gnome is my personal preference of the two. if I was a KDE fan I would presumably deploy KDE10:54
farousjordo23: users should have a choice they should try then choose what they prefer. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder10:54
phrizeropenoffice uses something like 'gsl' or something.10:54
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jordo23Ng: I lean towards KDE, and I appreciate the ability to have a choice in the matter, and I think it should always be that way, but there's an obvious contridiction in the corporate world.10:54
tonyyarussojordo23: I say, walk in with a computer like mine is currently (mainly for curiosity and demonstration purposes) loaded with Gnome, KDE, XFCE, Enlightement, Fluxbox, Openbox, WindowMaker, etc., show them each and have people play around for a few days, and have them tell you what they like.  Or just give everyone everything and have them decide what they want on a whim each morning.  That's the beauty of choice, right?10:54
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jordo23Ng: And....linux users need to remember who the real enemy is..........<coughMicrosoft>10:55
Ngjordo23: indeed, having two desktops deployed in an organisation could get quite confusing and irritating. perhaps you could involve some users and have them play with both and see if a concensus emerges as to which they prefer10:55
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Ngjordo23: microsoft isn't the enemy, they're just another software maker. Not all of us are driven by a bitter desire to see them penniless and hungry ;)10:55
jordo23Ng: It's difficult to get backing from upper management.10:55
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jordo23Ng: I don't want Microsoft to be pennyless.  On the contrary.  I just want the market as even as possible.10:56
arawhy is there no UI for printer sharing10:56
tonyyarussoNg: Not necessarily penniless and hungry.  Only if they continue operating under illegal business practices, conflicts of interest, and poor programming practice.  I don't mind their existence as a concept, I'll just fight them until they change.10:57
arakubuntu has it iirc, but not ubuntu10:57
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Ngtonyyarusso: I'd rather we beat them with better software than whinging ;)10:58
cynei've tried kubuntu now i'm going to ubuntu10:58
jordo23If the market in the business world was even, then 90% of developers and universities wouldn't endorse Microsoft products ultimately creating a reliance on them.10:58
tonyyarussoNg: Well of course.  My main tactic has been telling people about the better software, since I've found the vast majority of people aren't even aware of it's existence.  You should have seen the look on my roommates face when I showed him Firefox, Thunderbird, Gaim, and OpenOffice, and then told him it was all free, and then that it would run on Windows too if he wanted to check it out!10:59
djpasked something similar yesterday, but am hoping for a difinitive answer, if possible. can anyone recommend a webcam that will work with breezy, 'out of the box' so to speak? i'm in the uk.11:00
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Psykusi really don't care what OS or GUI anyone else is running...I just know what I prefer, and I don't try to convert anyone or argue about it11:00
jordo23Personally, besides the integration of OpenOffice and a groupware suite like Outlook, there really is no reason to purchase Office licensing.11:00
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jordo23If they made OpenOffice integrate with Evolution or something, and had stronger integration with Exchange servers, then Linux could be more easily deployed in the workplace.11:01
felixfoertschHello there - and good morning!11:01
PsykusNg, I installed the desklets app, and I now have the "candybar" applet stuck on my cursor >_<11:01
tonyyarussoPsykus: Well, see, I end up being the one people go to saying "My computer's broken", when the fact of the matter is their software is, so it's personally annoying for me to have people using Microsoft products around me, and a good opportunity to mention/recommend alternatives.11:01
NgPsykus: erk, does clicking on the desktop not "drop" it there?11:02
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felixfoertschIs there anyone who could help me installing an Audigy 2?11:02
Psykusi think that if you set them up with linux, then it could definitely work11:02
NgPsykus: as a worst case scenario you could hit ctrl-alt-f1, log in and kill the gdesklets process11:02
Psykusi clicked to move the applet, heh11:02
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farousPsykus: click and it will drop it where you want11:02
farousgive it time11:03
NgPsykus: if you don't mind missing out on the animation side of things you could just make a non-expanding gnome panel, set it quite large and put a load of launchers on it11:03
tonyyarussoPsykus: The big thing seems to be getting started.  Nobody wants to change, just from pure inertia, but plopped in front of desktop Linux or open-source apps, they do just fine.11:03
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Psykusi think the problem is, the candybar applet is also a window list11:03
Psykusso when I click, I just minimize/restore xchat11:03
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Psykusthe process is called gdesklets?11:04
Psykushaha, I have a candybar stuck to my mouse11:04
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farousPsykus: you can open a terminal type gdesklets stop. but normally just move the mouse and click to drop it11:05
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Psykusright, when I click, it just clicks on xchat in the applet11:06
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djpany webcam users here, based in the uk?11:06
Psykuswhew, I got the candybar off :P11:07
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londonboi2k3Hi guys, I have to setup 14 computers in the same way, I know there is closed source software to clone a HD, and compy it on to other PCs but is there a GPL version that I could use! This is for my office call center11:07
holy_cowlondonboi2k3, its easy11:07
hatake_kakashidd11:07
holy_cowno not dd that takes too long11:07
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holy_cowonly dd the first 100 sectors of the drive to capture grub11:08
tonyyarussolondonboi2k3: dd will copy an entire drive, dpkg's set selections lets you just install the same set of software packages.11:08
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holy_cowthen use partimage to restore the backed up copy of the partition11:08
tonyyarussolondonboi2k3: Also, rsync can be handy.11:08
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GeorgeAScottso i've got 2000 WMA files to convert... anything more stable than sound converter? it's crashed thrice on me11:08
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Kamping_Kaisertry mplayer?11:08
holy_cowlastly use any tool to reset the remaining linux swap partition to linux swap11:08
NgGeorgeAScott: you might well be able to use something like mencoder/ffmpeg11:08
pinpointWMA?11:09
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holy_cowbtw. you can use partimage to take an image of an entire 2 gig partition in about 2 minutes or less11:09
londonboi2k3hmm thanks guys, I think the idea is that we have a copy of the entire HD, which is 4GBs so that we can restore the entire HD without having to download the packages11:09
holy_cowimaging full ubuntu installs can take about 3 minutes per drive11:09
GeorgeAScottpinpoint: i started my collection quite awhile back...11:09
holy_cowwith that technique11:09
holy_cowif you try to dd the entire hard drive, it will take 20 minutes to hours per drive, depending on size11:09
londonboi2k3holy_cow partimage might sound usfull11:09
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mdeboeryes, mencoder can do that11:09
tonyyarussolondonboi2k3: Um, you need 13 backups?11:10
holy_cowforget the word usefull, trust me, anyone that says dd a partition has never dd'd more than a few hundred megs11:10
mdeboerwith some simple shell script11:10
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holy_cowyou can't dd 80 gig hd's and remain sane11:10
londonboi2k3not 13 backups, I am setuping up 1 pc and i want it cloned to the other 1311:10
holy_cowthats what i told you11:10
holy_cowtake it or leave it11:10
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holy_cowi clone entire drives with the technique in 3 minutes per drive11:10
tonyyarussoholy_cow: Okay, so what does partimage do that allows it to be so fast, but still have information?11:11
pinpointholy_cow, how many boxes you got?11:11
holy_cow20011:11
pinpointholy cow!11:11
pinpointlol11:11
liable!moo11:11
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, liable11:11
txwikinger2londonboi2k3: if you pout the 2 hds on the different ide-bus and switch dma on, you can copy a 40G HD within 1h11:11
txwikinger2with dd11:11
mjrtonyyarusso, apparently it has some FS knowledge and copies only used blocks (this from the deb description)11:11
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holy_cowtonyyarusso, well i don't frankly know, its clearly not reading every bit like dd, as its fricking fast, but then again its  not doing reads like a standard os calls because its so fricking fast11:12
holy_cowmy average / partition install is 2 gigs11:12
tonyyarussomjr: Okay, that sounds like it could help, but I still don't see how it can make such a drastic difference.11:12
holy_cowit takes 2 to 3 minutes to grab the data to an image, 2 to 3 minutes to put it back to another partition11:12
mjrtonyyarusso, well, I could see how it would, especially the writing of the image11:12
elaverickHi, I think my XWindow config is wrong.  Nothing will display, how can I avoid booting into X so I can fix it from the shell?11:12
pinpointwhat are requirements atleast for ubuntu?11:12
tonyyarussoholy_cow: Hrm, all right.  I guess we just accept that there's magic involved!11:12
londonboi2k3holy_cow, will try partimage as you suggested, looked at the home page and that is what I need, thanks11:12
pinpointcan it run on pentium 2 500mhz+11:12
holy_cownote: you must dd the first 100 sectors to grab both the bootsector and grub as grub installs it self right in the first sector after bootsector11:13
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tonyyarussopinpoint: Yes.11:13
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pinpointwithout lag?11:13
pinpointand see a printer11:13
Cornuelaverick: You should have a safe mode in the grub list, don't you ?11:13
holy_cowtonyyarusso, no we don't what you are going to accept is that i don't care what it does, it clearly uses a technique i didn't bother researching, but i have repeatedly use it successfully11:13
tonyyarussopinpoint: Although you might want to consider not using Gnome/KDE, but something lighter like XFCE or Fluxbox instead.11:13
holy_cowlondonboi2k3, good luck11:13
elaverickCornu: there are recovery modes, is that what you mean?11:14
liableelaverick: you can get a term by pressing alt+ctl+F1 then you can stop x if you want, with, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop11:14
londonboi2k3thannks11:14
tonyyarussoholy_cow: Well, something like that anyway, yeah.11:14
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Cornuelaverick: Aye, it should boot your system w/out launching X server11:14
holy_cowtonyyarusso, :)11:14
elaverickliable: That got it thanks :)11:14
elaverickCornu: Thats good to know for the future too, thank you.11:14
Cornusure11:14
Psykushm, the candybar desklet is neat, but I wish you could make it larger11:15
tonyyarussopinpoint: I've even heard of the occasional person running on a P1; P2's are reportedly just fine with a lighter desktop.11:15
CineFX3D_can't this ugly totem be skinned? it's really damn ugly like the way it is.. I can't allow it to play mp3's that ugly, can't I?11:15
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pinpointLOL11:15
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pinpointuse xxms11:15
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pinpointxmms*11:15
pinpointor xine11:16
sKeLa^amarok =D ?11:16
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CineFX3D_xmms.. the little ugly one? :)11:16
pinpointits like winamp in windows11:16
pinpointyou can get skins for it11:16
elaverickOh and one last thing I'll annoy you all with, where does X keep its config file?11:16
djpany webcam users here?11:16
Cornuelaverick: /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:17
tonyyarussoelaverick: Thinking you're looking for /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:17
farouselaverick: /etc/X11/xorg.conf do not edit unluess you know what you are doing11:17
sKeLa^well..i can't install the driver for my creative Live! Pro .. i think there's  no way for it :'(11:17
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tonyyarussoelaverick: Or at least back it up first, so you're only a little bit screwed.11:17
SeerKanhow can i set a program to autorun when the server starts ?11:18
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elavericktonyyarusso:  Good advice :)11:18
tonyyarussoUh oh, now we're all going to die, it's here...11:18
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pschulz01SeerKan: put a script in the /etc/init.d directory and link to it from /etc/rc.211:20
pschulz01or rc.311:20
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liabletonyyarusso: i.a.m?11:20
tonyyarussoliable: To be quite honest, I have no idea what that abbreviation's supposed to be, but if you're trying to ask, I was referring to the nick that just joined before that.11:21
tonyyarussoHi Bird-Flu, btw.11:21
liableyes,11:21
liablethink about it :)11:22
Bird-FluHi11:22
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CineFX3D_how can I make click open pdf in acrobat instead of evince by default?11:22
farousCineFX3D_: right click11:23
tonyyarussoliable: I've been up working on a psych report; thinking about much of anything is not likely.11:23
farousthen set it in properties open with11:23
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liableacronym..11:23
SeerKanpschulz01 in /etc/ i only have rc2.d11:23
SeerKanand how do i link it ?11:23
CineFX3D_ha, excellent, thanks :)11:24
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farous:)11:24
monkeymonkeyboy_9911:24
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foxpauldoes anyone know if it's possible to place mail directly into a users' imap store? (sorry if anyone replied already - i got disconnected)11:24
twbSuddenly whenever I open a new shell, I get the followin message:11:24
twbTo run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".11:24
twbSee "man sudo_root" for details.11:24
twbany idea what's going on?11:24
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liabletwb: you saved a shell session after using sudo? (if you understand what i mean)11:25
twbAh, I see there is now extra shit in /etc/bash.bashrc11:25
twbAn apparently I source that file THREE TIMES.11:26
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pinpointlol11:26
im_a_muslimAs Salaam e laikum (mean: Peace b upon u). ........ http://www.submission.org/ .......... Your source for Islam (submission) on the internet.11:26
im_a_muslim[112:0]  In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful11:26
im_a_muslim[112:1]  Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD.11:26
im_a_muslim[112:2]  "The Absolute GOD.11:26
im_a_muslim[112:3]  "Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten.11:26
im_a_muslim[112:4]  "None equals Him."11:26
twbGods, how fucking annoying.  Who is resposible?!11:26
liable!ops11:26
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im_a_muslimSalaam11:26
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pinpointim watching him11:27
twbIt's in the bash 3.1 package.11:27
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liablehe was banned a while back from a few channels11:27
nubbeHow do I make mplayer not close at the end of a clip by default?11:27
twbnubbe: close what?11:27
nubbetwb, the app, mplayer11:28
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nubbetwb, anything to put in .mplayer/config perhaps?11:29
twa1296how can i resize my ntfs partition and use the freed space for fat32?11:29
twbnubbe: what part of mplayer would you like to stay open?  There's just a window with the clip in it.11:29
twbnubbe: you want it to freeze on the last frame?11:29
twbtwa1296: with extreme difficulty.11:29
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nubbetwb, would prolly do the trick11:30
twbtwa1296: don't try to resize it unless it's non-critical data.11:30
tonyyarussotwa1296: The tool you want is ntfsresize, contained in the package ntfsprogs.11:30
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twbnubbe: why do you want that?11:30
CineFX3D_hm synaptic says I have two broken pkgs and I should use broken filter to look at them.. where is that?11:30
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twbCineFX3D_: aptitude show ~b11:30
twa1296tonyyarusso, could i also do it in xp using partitionmagic?11:30
tonyyarussotwa1296: You'll probably want to run the Windows defragmenting tool first.11:30
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CineFX3D_twb: and synaptic? :)11:31
nubbetwb, why would I want to click the link in FF if I want to check the clip again?11:31
twa1296tonyyarusso, ok11:31
nubbetwb, or maybe I want it to behave the way I want it to behave11:31
tonyyarussotwa1296: Well, you could... but be warned that the two or three times I've used PM it messed up the partition table such that it was no longer able to read it afterwards, and all of the times I've used ntfsresize it's been just fine.11:31
nubbetwb, not an uncommon reason, right??  ;)11:31
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twbCineFX3D_: nfi11:32
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twbnubbe: oh, you are using it with a dinky embedded thing?11:32
twa1296twb, tonyyarusso, thanks, would you advise me to set up my box from scratch? with an ntfs, ext3 and fat32?11:32
nubbetwb, no I'm not11:32
jessy_is there somebody who can help me 2 min ?11:32
ssdohow is the ubuntu live working with nvidia grafix card?11:32
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twbnubbe: hmm.  Maybe you *want* the embedded thing.11:32
tonyyarussotwa1296: Wait, what do you mean from scratch?  What do you have now, and what's your goal?11:33
ssdoI am running ubuntu live in a dell laptop with nvidia, the display went borked after 5 minutes11:33
nubbetwb, and I'm not using gmplayer and I REALLY don't want the embedded crap11:33
twbOK, WHO THE *FUCK* IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE bash 3.1 PACKAGE?11:33
twbIt is totally broken.11:33
twa1296tonyyarusso: i have a dual-boot ntfs and ext3 and i want a partition that can be read and written by xp and linux11:34
twb /etc/profile sources /etc/bash.bashrc!11:34
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jessy_thanks i've found a person :)11:34
twbIt adds /usr/local/sbin for non-root users!11:34
dibblegowhat do I need to do so I can open my CD-ROM drive?11:34
twbGRAAAH!11:34
snowblinktwb, that's probably so that sudo works11:34
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oLuKeLeBeKhow can i crack a plesk 7.0.2 :P11:34
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tonyyarussotwa1296: Okay.  So from scratch would mean erasing all of your data and reinstalling both OSs.  A bit of overkill.11:35
twa1296tonyyarusso, ok, thanks for your input, i'll try to ntfsresize and should it not work i'll go for the overkill11:35
tonyyarussotwa1296: Just run ntfsresize from within Ubuntu to free up the space, then use something like Gparted to create the Fat32, and you'll be all set.11:35
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twa1296tonyyarusso, understood, thanks11:36
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twbtwa1296: backup first!  ntfs under linux is flaky as hell.11:36
tonyyarussotwa1296: You'll want to know exactly how much free space you can take out of the ntfs partition.11:36
CineFX3D_where the hell is anjuta - where did the automatix put it?11:36
snowblinktwb, I think you'll find downgrading won't help11:36
twa1296tbw, tonyyarusso, ok, thanks guys11:36
Familiehi11:36
twbsnowblink: because it's a conf file?11:36
tonyyarussotwa1296: Overshooting and trying to resize below what it's actually using would of course be a problem, but other than that you should be fine.  Good luck.11:36
farousCineFX3D_: type locate anjuta11:36
farousor just type anjuta in a terminal11:37
xophErWhen I dist-upgrade; what do I need to backup?11:37
snowblinktwb, no. Because it's default on Ubuntu to include /usr/local/sbin in the path11:37
CineFX3D_I did, found one image of anjuta and anjuta.desktop.. I guess installation went bad11:37
twbsnowblink: I was more grumbling about sourcing bash.bashrc and the sudo crap getting printed thrice.11:37
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Familiei would like to get access to my internet conncection over Windows XP, but it only works if I reinstall ubuntu and let the network be autodetected11:37
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snowblinktwb, I think it does the same on 3.0.0 on Hoary11:38
brynkok, that doesn't make any sense11:38
brynk:)11:38
FamilieCan I somehow start the network autodetection program after the installation is done?11:39
twbsnowblink: I'm just installing 3.1 from amd64.debian.net :-)11:39
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felixfoertschIs there anyone who could help me installing an Audigy 2?11:39
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visik7anyone got success backporting gcj-4.1 from dapper to breezy ?11:41
Familiecan anyone help me?11:41
visik7fakeroot debian/rules binary doesn't work and return this error http://pastebin.com/58167011:41
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visik7who is the gcj mantainer ?11:43
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pinpointubuntu breezy just came out11:44
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pinpointalready a new one in 1month11:44
pinpointbah!11:44
kemikevery 6 months11:44
pinpointwhats in it?11:44
kemikJoin #ubuntu+1 for Dapper discussion11:45
kemikor google it11:45
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ompaulpinpoint, has a year and a halfs support, so there is a year left in it, the next one should last longer11:45
djpanyone using a webcam under breezy here?11:46
tonyyarussoompaul, pinpoint: Dapper is supported 3 years on the desktop and 5 on the server.11:47
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pinpointfree support?11:47
ompaulthat is the idea11:47
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pia_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9669 <-- how can I remove the mozilla-imagezoom package from the apt-get system ?11:47
ompaulpinpoint, it is free up to the point that you call me then the clock starts ticking, and the bills mount11:47
pinpointheh11:47
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pinpointgot a question11:48
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pinpointwhats a wiki exactly?11:48
farouspinpoint: just understand that the support is for security updates only. Packages are freezed unless you use a backport11:48
pinpointi read but it still didnt stick to my brains11:48
ompaulpinpoint, go to ##anything and I'll answer you11:48
visik7pinpoint: a collaborative documentation site11:48
ompaulor #ubuntu-offtopic11:49
Protocol1cool, I moved into my new house and it rules11:49
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foampeacehi11:49
foampeacedoes anyone know how to chdir when the folder name has spaces?11:49
pinpointtab completion?11:50
farousfoampeace: put it between commas "  "11:50
pia_cd my\ documents11:50
pinpoint" "11:50
tonyyarussofoampeace: cd folder\ with\ spaces11:50
tonyyarussofarous: Commas?11:50
foampeaceYES i just tried that just " and first letter then tab worked11:50
farousinverted commas11:50
tonyyarussofarous: Quotation marks, you mean?11:50
farousam too sleepy qutoqtion marks sorry11:50
farousneed to sleeep take care all11:51
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foampeaceonly need 1 set of "11:51
tonyyarussofarous: Totally understandable.  I wish I could do the same.  Darn psych...11:51
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farous:)11:51
foampeacethen  tab11:51
tonyyarussofoampeace: Tab completion rocks my world.11:51
foampeacetonyyarusso: yes11:51
foampeacewhat else11:52
foampeacefresh beats?11:52
tonyyarussofoampeace: Nah, maybe potatoes.11:52
tonyyarussoAnyway, I really need to get back to work, since the sun will be coming up soon.11:53
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foampeacei need to get coffee11:53
Kanalalcan someone tell me what the Gdk errors when starting firefox 1.5 are all about?11:53
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foampeacecause me last one said sorry try again arrr11:53
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liablearr11:54
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Spee_DerI trashed my kernel on /dev/hdc111:54
Ngavast ye salty seadogs, pirate talk be best sent to the murky depths of #ubuntu-offtopic, lest ye bring upon theeself the wrath of a landlubber op ;)11:55
Spee_DerEverything is till on the drive, but I need to finger out how to re-load the kernel ?11:55
pinpointfinger?11:55
tonyyarusso_workNg: Very nice.11:55
Philiphello, new to ubuntu (debian). How do I keep up to date with security updates. Redhat used to have yum and a web site that showed which servers needed to be updated based upon installed packages. I know about apt-get, but can you schedule something that keeps the server secure?11:55
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Spee_Derfinger. yeh you know, type something.....11:55
Ngtonyyarusso_work: I take my pirate talk very seriously! ;)11:55
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tonyyarusso_workNg: Hey, my friends participate in "Talk like a pirate day", so...11:56
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Spee_DerI was using kernel 2.6.15-15-38611:56
Spee_DerBut I trashed it somehow.....11:56
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Ngtonyyarusso_work: september 19th :)11:56
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Spee_DerNow I can't boot from /dev/hdc1 but everything is still there.....11:57
tonyyarusso_workNg: Yep.11:57
hermeshi11:57
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AfiefIs there a way to add a certain program to a live CD before burning it?11:57
NgPhilip: check "ps auwx | grep update" to see if you have an "update-notifier" process running -if you do and you run a gnome desktop it should place a little red icon in the notification tray when updates are available11:58
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ompaulAfief, you need to build the live CD again, there is no "easy click here" way that I know of11:58
tonyyarusso_workAfief: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo11:58
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PhilipNg, thank you. will do. that sets me in right direction11:58
Spee_DerAs of now, I am running off the live cd11:58
Spee_DerHow to re-load the kernel on /dev/hdc1 ?11:59
ompaultonyyarusso_work, your on the ball this morning :) I could not remember it off hand I was going to have to look11:59
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Afiefompaul: if it's "not easy" as in command line, config file editing and some basic compiling, i'm up to it(and ready to learn the harder stuff!)11:59
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ompaulAfief, see the link tony gave it is rather complete12:00
tonyyarusso_workompaul: '/msg ubotu lisvals live' is my friend.12:00
ompaultonyyarusso_work, that would work12:00
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tonyyarusso_works/lisvals/listvals/12:01
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ompaulaye12:01
tonyyarusso_workOkay, 6:00AM, I'm going to be productive for real now!12:01
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zax1hello12:02
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zax1wonder if any one can help with configuring a linux unit on a windows network12:02
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pinpointthanks ompaul12:04
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ompaulnp12:04
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michael_wo ist der deusche12:07
michael_sever12:07
ompaul!de12:07
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de12:07
Spliffsterhi, i have problems compiling xulrunner from source. configure tells me: "configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables."12:07
michael_kk12:07
Spliffsterspliffy@schleppi:~$ which cc gcc g++12:07
Spliffster/usr/bin/cc12:07
Spliffster/usr/bin/gcc12:07
Spliffster/usr/bin/g++12:07
Spliffsteroop, sry12:07
ompaulSpliffster, write one hundred times without using a computer I know what a pastebin is :-)12:08
zax1!he12:08
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zax112:08
Spliffsterompaul: sry this was supposed to be one line12:09
ompaulSpliffster, ergo I had a :-) at the end of the line12:09
pia_Philip, try this http://mattiaswikstrom.net/linux/20050526-apt-update-script.html12:09
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Spliffsterahhh .... this chat is best viewed with open seys then .. eh ?12:09
Spliffsters/seys/eyes/12:10
pia_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9669 <-- how can I remove the mozilla-imagezoom package from the apt-get system ?12:10
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pschulz01What do i need to install to play mp3s?12:12
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ompaulpschulz01, if you want more than a one like answer "it creates legal issues in some jurstications" then go to #ubuntu-offtopic12:13
kuja!tell pschulz01 about mp312:13
ompauls/like/line12:13
pschulz01Thanks guys...12:14
zucca^_^I just installed ubuntu on an asus M3000N and it seems to work fine12:14
ompaulpschulz01,  sorry I read it as Why do I ...12:14
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zucca^_^double boots with xp home12:14
kujapschulz01: Basically, you need a certain gstreamer package.12:14
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bigmoeanyone now how to install google earth on ubuntu12:17
bigmoeby apt-get12:17
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kujaI'm not all so familiar with the Google projects.12:17
Ngbigmoe: google earth is windows/mac only at the moment12:18
kujaAw that sucks... just when I was about to search :)12:18
thefishbigmoe: you might be able to use it with wine, but there is defs no way to install with apt12:18
bigmoethefish: aw ok thanks12:18
Ngfrom what I've seen some people have had limited success with it in wine12:19
NgI tried it and it didn't work at all12:19
kujaUh, how'd Google get access to satellite imagry?12:19
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kujaNASA crackers :)12:19
Ngkuja: presumably by spending a bunch of cash to licence it12:19
Ngthey use data from several sources12:19
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kujaNg: It works... for any location?12:19
bigmoeno but these are only images they arent real time12:19
Ngbigmoe: correct12:20
kujaI wouldn't expect it to be realtime.12:20
Ngkuja: different locations have different levels of detail12:20
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kujaThat's a lot of bandwidth to cope for.12:20
kujaAny plans on a Linux version?12:20
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Ngmaybe, google tend to be quite tight-lipped about things before they release them12:21
Ngthe nearest atm is a 2d version of NASA's Worldwind12:21
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dancingmonkeyis there a site where I can find instructions on booting the installer from diskette only, is it possible? I am not migrating from Linux or Windows...12:21
kujaNg: Is there anything like it, except for Linux?12:21
Ngthe nearest atm is a 2d version of NASA's Worldwind12:21
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kujaNASA's Worldwind? Eh.. hmm /me googles12:21
bigmoeNg: worldwind is like google earth??12:22
bigmoei might try it for a change12:22
kujaNg: Bah! It's for Windows :(12:22
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Ngkuja: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2005/Sep-30-1.html12:23
xophErWhen I ran 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' after editing breezy -> dapper I got this: http://pastebin.ca/44319 ; is it safe to remove those?12:23
kujaNg: I'll have a look12:23
kujaAh, mono12:23
kujaNice12:23
drjguys im trying to install glftpd but its saying i need inetd.  how can i fix this please?12:24
NgxophEr: it's probably ok. you might want to make sure that ubuntu-desktop is installed afterwards so it's definitely pulled in all the bits it needs12:25
ablysswhats the difference in apt-get upgrade verses apt-get dist-upgrade ?12:25
Ngdrj: it's available in the netkid-inetd package12:25
xophErNg, ok, why does it want to remove nvidia-glx? :)12:25
Ngablyss: dist-upgrade allows apt to remove things or pull in new packages - it's typically only needed to move between versions of a distro, or if you're running the development version12:25
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canllaithwhat's dapper like at the moment? :)12:26
drjso i need to do sudo apt-get install netkid-inetd12:26
drj  ?12:26
NgxophEr: presumably there is something else that is slightly confusing apt. You are upgrading to a development version, so things aren't guaranteed to be entirely smoothat this stage. If you put your sources.list back to breezy and make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed it might go smoother. of course you might have that installed already, it's hard to tell. have you installed many third party pacakges?12:26
Ngdrj: yup12:26
drjlovely thanks12:26
Ngcanllaith: a development tree, it might work today and it might explode tomorrow - it literally depends on what packages are being uploaded at this moment12:27
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foampeacehttp://www.petebevin.com/12:27
ablyssNg, okay thanks12:27
xophErThird part as in universe or multiverse?12:27
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J_Phi all12:27
canllaithOf those who are running it though, how are you finding it at the moment?12:27
NgxophEr: yes, but more things completely outside ubuntu12:27
jessy_is there somebody who can try to upload a file on my FTP in order to try if everything works ?12:27
J_Ppeople, how I configure ubuntu for work CTRL+ALT+F1, F2, etc for console ?12:28
bigmoeguys i want to know how to share my internet connection over a wireless network using linux but i really dont know how to do that can someone advice me to some ebook or something to get me started!12:28
drjhmm E: Couldn't find package netkid-inetd12:28
Ngcanllaith: I'm finding it fine, but I'm not scared by debian-like systems exploding on me. the other day I had to hack some packages to get an upgrade to work12:28
Ngdrj: netkit not netkid12:28
xophErNg, well a few programs Ive compiled myself but nothing major.. Dont think would interfere12:28
blAckEn3dquery tetuzz12:28
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blAckEn3doops12:28
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blAckEn3dsorry12:28
Ngdrj: sorry, that was my typo12:28
snowblinkJ_P, it should already do that12:28
drjah sorry :)12:28
J_Psnowblink: really NOT!12:29
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canllaithfair enough. It seems to be the easiest way to get KDE 3.5 and the gnome RC so I'm upgrading now.12:29
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snowblinkJ_P, what version of Ubuntu are you running?12:29
kiran_hi12:30
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dancingmonkeyI'm guessing linux is too big to get an installer on a diskette, in that case, should I shoot for Dapper? or ??? Your naming convention is out to lunch.12:30
J_Psnowblink: 5.1012:30
flogisto1Use a cd12:30
ablyssbigmoe, you plan on using static IP on your for the shared computers or dhcp ?12:30
dancingmonkeyI have no CD-Burner12:30
JakeKquick question,what do you folks think is the irc client in this screenshot? http://beta.linux.be/gfx.use/linux.screenshot.1079.1.png12:30
love_what update is used for restricted formats in synaptic ?12:31
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JakeKas well as the font, it looks crisp, i like it12:31
love_mp3, etc?12:31
NgJakeK: that looks like irssi12:31
canllaithJakeK: irssi12:31
xophErheh, Ng , now I installed ubuntu-desktop - and now apt wants to remove it too :)12:31
JakeKthank you heaps, what about the hot font?12:31
JakeKfont looks sexc and crisp don't you think?12:31
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colmdancingmonkey, you can order a free CD at ubuntu.com12:31
love_mp3, etc?12:32
canllaithJakeK: i think that's because it's running in Etern from the look of it12:32
love_what update is used for restricted formats in synaptic ?12:32
canllaithwith font drop shadows12:32
NgxophEr: ok, well if you really want to go ahead with the dist-upgrade you'll want to install that again after and it should then remove whatever is confusing it, but it is within the bounds of possibility that you will need to clear up some of the dependencies by hand if apt can't figure it out12:32
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love_what update is used for restricted formats ?12:32
JakeKokay thanks12:32
kiran_i have a msi 7800GTX graphical card, and my son wants to play planetpenguin-racer, i installed tthe game, but when i run it, the menu goes really slow? should i first install some drivers? and how should i do it :s?12:32
JakeKreally helpful i gotta go help with fluxbox12:32
colmkiran_, you'll need nvidia drivers12:33
Ng!tell kiran_ about nvidia12:33
xophErIll probably just wait a week or two before I dist-upgrade :) Easier that way12:33
colm!nvidia12:33
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:33
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dancingmonkeycolm, Takes too long, and it's generally cheaper to just netinstall. I am playing with openbsd right now, and I am happy with it, except for the lack of drivers (Both my Vortex soundcard AND Aureal 802.11G NIC)12:33
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J_Psnowblink: becouse I need go to console, without GUI..12:33
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J_Por enter with mono user.. in boot..12:34
swordany gimp users here ?12:34
Philipthanks PIA12:34
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swordgimp v 2.2.8 doesnt want to open .psd files12:34
dancingmonkeyI love mpd but the onboard soundcard is just too crappy. Time to switch OS'12:34
J_Pin lilo i was do : Linux single, and with grup, how I enter as single ?12:34
avar_where can I contact the personell in charge of the shipit system?12:34
avar_i.e. if I find bugs or some other issues with it12:34
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dancingmonkeysword, most likely, the psd wasn't saved in compatibility mode, eg. the format is too new.12:35
sworddamn12:35
liableJ_P: you can append single to the kernel line in grub 'e' at the grub screen or boot the rescue kernel. alt+ctl+F1 doesnt work??12:35
colmsword, I can recommend latest Krita, it supports 16bit CMYK mode12:35
kiran_how do i know if i'm on hoary or on breezy12:35
swordyeah ijust need some CSS settings from it12:35
swordKrita?12:35
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dancingmonkeyso, what version should I get?12:36
bigmoe_Ng: can i install ubuntu using the TV out without a normal screen?12:36
colmsword, Krita is the image tool from KOffice12:36
J_Pliable: NOT, when I am are in gnome, CTRL+ALT+F1, F2.. etc NOT work12:36
love_what update is used for restricted formats ?12:36
love_what update is used for restricted formats ?12:36
love_what update is used for restricted formats ?12:36
dancingmonkeyThey don't have numbers, just names, and no one mentions dapper, but it seems just released, but, released last year, but newer then the one they are giving out on CD....12:36
dancingmonkeylove_, The annoying one.12:37
love_ty monkey12:37
dancingmonkeynp.12:37
liableJ_P: strange. you can kill gdm from a term though. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop12:37
nullhayo uuuuuuubuntoooo people12:37
love_what update is used for restricted formats ?12:37
swordhmm i cant open this psd file w/ krita either12:37
liablelove_: stop that.12:37
avar_bleh, anyone?12:37
love_its an easy answer12:37
dancingmonkeyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:37
flogisto1Is /charset uft-8 to set utf-8 coding?12:37
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colmsword, you need the latest dev version... wait I'll get the repository details...12:38
swordokay12:38
swordthanks12:38
liablelove_: and because you are being so damn annoying, you might find noone wants to answer12:38
bigmoe_can i install ubuntu using the TV out without a normal screen?12:38
J_Pliable: but I like alternate between console and gnome..12:38
love_i just dont remember, I am setting up a terminal at a hurricane katrina relief center12:38
swordthough i wish i could open this psd file w/ gimp12:38
liable!restricted12:38
uboturestricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats12:38
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swordany of you have ubuntu packages for 2.2.10 gimp?12:38
love_ty liable12:39
colmsword, you could save it as 8bit rgb from krita to then open in gimp12:39
liableJ_P: then you should check the bts for problems why you cant get vt1 etc.12:39
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dancingmonkeybigmoe_, no you must use a computer as the tv has no cd-rom drive. You can however install netbsd onto your dvd-player.12:39
liableohnos, opless again!12:39
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colmI've got this in my sources.list:     deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice15beta1 breezy main12:39
J_Pliable: what are "bts" ?12:39
colmadd that then apt-get update12:40
dancingmonkeybigmoe_, but as for installing an os with a low-resolution screen, as long as your videocard works, yes.12:40
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liableJ_P: bug tracker, whatever ubuntu's is. apparently its called some funky name these days.12:40
nullany one using xinerama here on uuubuntoo ?12:40
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eso3k12:41
sworddamn12:41
eso3hola12:41
swordgmail isnt downloading this attachments right12:41
dancingmonkeywe are a room full of questions who have no answers.12:41
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bigmoe_dancingmonkey: i mean im using my TV as the screen, can i see the installation process or nothing at all with TV out12:42
swordhmm that could be ONE problem12:42
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dancingmonkeybigmoe_, Try, if you see nothing, then no. It shouldn't hurt to try lest ye mash keys randomly.12:42
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dancingmonkeyi'm going to bed as you people are all quite mad or useless.12:43
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liablebwahahaha12:44
Seveas!tell dancingmonkey about attitude12:44
xiaoyuis there anybody use TeX12:44
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Seveasxiaoyu, well, latex12:44
Seveasnot raw tex12:45
xiaoyuhow can i outpt colorful font12:45
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Seveas\usepackage{color}12:46
twb,g latex color site:ctan.org12:46
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xiaoyuSeveas, How can i get colorful fonts12:46
twbfsbot still down?12:46
J_Pliable: your ubuntu 5.10 work ctrl_alt+f1, f2 ... ?12:46
twbOh, wrong channel.12:46
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dancingmonkey!tell Seveas all of you are useless or quite mad and may scare away potential minions12:46
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twbxiaoyu: http://google.com/search?q=site:ctan.org+color12:47
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liableJ_P: i dont have ubuntu 5.10, but yes, many peoples do12:47
J_Pliable: ok12:47
Seveasxiaoyu, twb has a very good tip, ctan is full of information12:47
J_Pliable: I go wait 6.4 :-)12:47
leehello all.  thunderbird has suddenly stopped working -- I haven't upgraded it or the system lately, it just suddenly died whilst I was using it and now it refuses to start giving this error: DOUBLE-CLICK: 400 --> -1 THRESHOLD: 8 --> -1 /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh: line 159: 13594 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"} ... anybody know how to fix it?12:48
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xiaoyuSeveas, ths12:48
liableJ_P: yours should be fixable, unless you have explicitely told xorg not to allow vt's then i suggest you check for bugs as i cant think of a reason for it not to.12:48
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J_Pliable: ok12:49
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Seveasxiaoyu, http://www.kaarsemaker.net/files/RB/sourcestyle.tex is an example of how I used it12:49
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CurtmanDoes the Firefox in dapper add mouse gesture support?  Every time I scroll my mouse wheel quickly, it takes me back or forward as if I had clicked the back or forward button.  :(12:50
xiaoyuSeveas, must i use the color package?12:50
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lee(I'm using breezy and thunderbird 1.0.7)12:51
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Seveasxiaoyu, yes12:51
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jpotexI've got UTF8 when using irssi in Ubuntu... how can I change that?12:55
Pupeno_What do I need to install on my kubuntu to access samba printers ? the dialog for adding a new printer has samba printers greyed out.12:55
jpotexMy swedish mates complain over bad characters because of that. :P12:56
munti78how do i find out if something is installed?12:56
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jonohi all12:56
mjrjpotex, tell them to fix their clients12:56
jonohow do I scan for XDMCP servers and log in12:56
xiaoyuSeveas, i have another question. in what way can i know the command of a package12:56
kemikjpotex: are u running irssi from a gnometerminal ?12:56
lowfihi12:56
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munti78anyone? how can i now if a program already is installed?12:57
Seveasxiaoyu, I don't understand what you mean with 'command of a package'12:57
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el_froggyhi, i 've succesfully installed vegastrike (space simulator) but how do i run it?12:57
jpotexkemik - The terminal that follows with ubuntu12:57
xiaoyuSeveas, what command does a package have12:58
kemikjpotex: just change charset in the terminal window then12:58
jpotexkemik - And how do I do that?12:58
kemikjpotex: it should be avavilable from one of the menues12:58
Seveasthat depends on the package - if you want to know all commands of a package you should read its documentation12:58
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kemikand the charset you want is iso-8859-1 if i'm not mistaken12:58
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xiaoyuSeveas, does the command "textcolor" belong to color12:59
jpotexkemik - I changed the keyboard layout from the menues12:59
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jpotexkemik - But that didnt change the charset UTF812:59
Seveasxiaoyu, yes12:59
K0pheinhello12:59
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K0pheini'm looking for a linux distro that supports a Creative Audigy 4 SoundCard12:59
kemikthere's an option to change charset12:59
kemikkeep searching12:59
xiaoyuSeveas, how do you know12:59
el_froggyhi, i 've succesfully installed vegastrike (space simulator) but how do i run it?12:59
kemikim in windows atm so i cant tell you exactly where it is12:59
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K0pheindoes ubuntu do that?12:59
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Seveasxiaoyu, because I read the documentation :D01:00
bigfoot1how do i make basic edits (cutting) of avi movie files?01:00
Seveasbigfoot1, kino, cinelerra01:00
bigfoot1Seveas: thank you. Will get and try those 2.01:01
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xiaoyumust i read the doc before i use it, my english is poor01:01
jpotexkemik - Ok, hmm.  Tried with only charset in terminal, no success though01:01
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el_froggykemik, could you tell me, how do i run a program after i installed it?01:02
kemikel_froggy: type the programname in a terminal01:02
kemikmost likely01:02
el_froggytnx kemik01:03
KakiPukulif you're not sure though, you can checkout synaptic and check for the file installed, usually in /usr/bin01:04
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bigfoot1Seveas: E: Couldn't find package cinelerra01:04
Seveasbigfoot1, then use kino 01:05
Seveas!info cinelerra dapper01:05
Seveasyup, -ENOPACKAGE - it's not packaged yet01:05
C-O-L-THello I have a probelm, I have updated my system and now my soundcard does not works01:05
KakiPukulthe small tsu again...01:05
bigfoot1Seveas: it's a new package?01:06
KakiPukulit's not even in the repos yet :)01:06
KakiPukulwell i guess you can compile it manually from source01:06
bigfoot1KakiPukul: compiling from source? yikes. intimiidating01:06
djpis this what i need to do if i want to get a webcam working under breezy? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spca5xx#head-a41c9f1dcbc1ea763d572e99ba1e4928ee0625d1. i am referring to the alternative steps... replacing the spca5xx driver01:06
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KakiPukulnot really01:07
KakiPukulwell, many are in the repos, but newer things like the latest kernel etc...01:07
KakiPukulI rather DIY on that :)01:08
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bigfoot1if "compiling from source" is as easy as copying and pasting lines into the terminal, no prob with me.01:09
KakiPukulwell... it gives adventure... at least you can see the mistakes/bugs straight from the source01:09
ebrotherhello01:10
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bigfoot1where do we find instructions on Compiling from source?01:11
ebrotherIs there anyone who knows how to input Chinese in aMSN?01:12
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kemikon the wiki01:12
kemik!compile01:12
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware01:12
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bigfoot1is there only one flavor of mplayer?01:13
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duskstartkeylogger01:13
bigfoot1LIke, totem comes in 2 flavors.01:13
sudharshbigfoot1: differnet for diff archs..more like01:13
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jpotexArgh. That was bad. I cant apt-get install kopete because I dont have the ubuntu cdrom01:14
larsrohdiHi, excuse a possibly stuipid question, but does the /var/log/auth.log and syslog clean themselves?01:14
sudharshbigfoot1: its the backend tht differentiats the two totems :)01:14
sudharshjpotex: y would u need the ubuntu cdrom01:14
afiefSoftware update often just doesn't work(download dialouge appears and disappears without asking if i agree on installation) synaptic works though. anybody knows this problem?01:14
jpotexsudharsh - It says so01:15
larsrohdianyone?01:15
sudharshjpotex: add repositories and install through the net01:15
AndyBeDoes anybody known the gnome option to get mounted devices like cdrom on the desktop back.01:15
jpotexsudharsh - I dont know how though01:15
sudharshafaik the cdrom doesnt hav any kde packages01:15
KakiPukuli love totem (the statue), I love eating them hehe01:15
sudharshjpotex: open synaptic01:15
jpotexsudharsh - huh?01:16
sudharshthe package manager01:16
bigfoot1sudharsh: so totem has 2 backends. Which plays avi files better? and does mplayer come in 2 backends, too?01:16
CineFX3D_stupid gaim.. how can it show all users, not just online ones? couldn't find it in the preferences01:16
jpotexAha01:16
jpotexsudharsh - And where do I find that ?01:16
bigfoot1how come my avi files play smoothly in mplayer but not in totem?01:16
KakiPukulkubuntu does... for ubuntu, you can update your universe section...01:16
sudharshbigfoot1: totem-xine on libxine01:16
bigfoot1correction: one avi (as of yet)01:16
drjok.. trying to install glftpd.. it couldnt find a compiler so i put gcc on.. and ran the installer again but they failed to compile. im trying to do it manually now and i get this..cjones@cjubuntu:/glftpd/bin/sources$ gcc ansi2gl.c -o ansi2gl01:16
drjansi2gl.c:15:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory01:16
drjansi2gl.c:16:20: error: string.h: No such file or directory01:16
drj..01:16
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bigfoot1how do i know which totem i have?01:17
drjcould someone please tell me what packages i need to get the standard c headers?01:17
afiefdrj: get the build essential package01:17
KakiPukuldrj, install build-essential first01:17
CineFX3D_and where the hell can I edit menus for gnome? applications etc..?01:17
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sudharshbigfoot1: then u must hav totem-gstreamer01:17
sudharshthe about button should help01:17
sudharshdrj: libc6-dev01:17
sudharshjpotex: settings -> repositories and add the repos01:18
sudharshand do an update01:18
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afiefDoes anybody experience the update manager not functioning correctly(attemping to download, exiting download process automaticly, no error)01:19
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jpotexsudharsh - If I had that :P01:19
bigfoot1sudharsh: how did you come to the conclusion that i have totem-gstreamer?01:19
drjk ill give it a go thanks01:19
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sudharshbigfoot1: default installations hav gstreamer as the backend01:19
jpotexsudharsh - I found the package manager, but I cant open it as apt-get or another application use it (at least it say so... though I dont have it open)01:19
bigfoot1how can i check which totem i have?01:19
sudharshjpotex: then check if u hav any terminals which is usin apt or dpkg01:20
bigfoot1and why does mplayer play an avi file smoothly while totem does not (nor does gmplayer)01:20
sudharshbigfoot1: help -> about01:20
jpotexsudharsh- Dont have it, but I tried rebooting01:20
pradabigfoot1: cos it's better :)01:20
bigfoot1II have totem-gstreamer. Based on sudharsh's advise, I should switch to totem-xine. If you have any objections (wisdom), speak now or, or. Ok. JUst speak now01:21
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pianoboy3333What web-page editors like dreamweaver are there availible for ubuntu? Is there something in the repositories?01:22
sudharshbigfoot1: if u want install totem-xine01:22
NET||abusearrrg, can't remember how to mount a 2003 share,,, smbfs doesn't work, there's another -t option to use, what is it???01:22
sudharshjpotex: u gotta hav the synaptic pkg manager..mate01:22
KakiPukulwell, use xine or vlc... these two are more powerful than totem... totem is too freaky to use01:22
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jpotexsudharsh - Yeah, but I cannot access it. I'm rebooting the system and see if it helps01:23
sudharshjpotex: else try 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'01:23
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KakiPukulwell, synaptic is installed by default... if you install ubuntu-desktop01:24
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bigfoot1in vlc, if i have fullscreen, how can i control playback? how can i get the "remote control" to appear?01:25
jpotexsudharsh - Now Im in the grapical one of the package manager in the systemlist01:25
jpotexsudharsh - What should I do next when I've started it?01:25
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KakiPukulbigfoot1, you can click the right mouse button, and the control menu pops up01:26
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cerebrosius!w32codecs01:26
ubotuw32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install01:26
CineFX3D_How do I add a program to auto-start when I login?01:27
sudharshjpotex: settings -> repositories01:27
jpotexOk, and then?01:27
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KakiPukulCineFX3D_, on GNOME>?01:27
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CineFX3D_yes01:27
sudharshjpotex: add the repositories, of course check all the boxes01:27
KakiPukulJust goto System => Preference => Sessions01:27
lesshasteanyone got any idea how I could extract an image from a Word document (in openoffice) to a file?01:27
KakiPukulclick on the Startup Program tab, and start picking startup programs01:28
jpotexsudharsh - I've got three to choose, and can write an APT line with adress01:28
KakiPukulclick the button add :)01:28
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jpotexsudharsh - But how do I know what to write?01:28
CineFX3D_thanks dude!01:29
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sudharshjpotex: k..so now u hav the gedit open01:29
KakiPukullesshaste, just open the Word doc in OO, and copy+paste?01:29
NET||abusefound it.... windows network sharing is done through cifs01:30
KakiPukulinto a new file...01:30
jpotexsudharsh - No, I'm where I can enter an APT line01:30
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sudharshno dont enter an apt-line01:30
bigfoot1ANy programs that can do basic editing of avi files (aside from kino (which is really for dv files), ?01:30
jpotexsudharsh - Ok, what should I do then?01:30
sudharshu must hav clicked the custom button01:30
KakiPukulyeah, bigfoot1 , I wonder about that too01:30
[-DevinE-] where can i get ubuntu logon screens?01:30
jpotexsudharsh - Yeah01:31
bigfoot1KakiPukul: gimp won't do movie files, right?01:31
bigfoot1=01:31
KakiPukulno :)01:31
lesshasteKakiPukul, to what?01:31
lesshasteI have the solution now :)01:31
KakiPukulgraphics, stricly graphics01:31
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sudharshjpotex: dont do that..jus enable the repos u want from the combo box, checkin all the boxes and click ok01:31
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lesshastethe solution is... save to a html !:))01:31
jpotexsudharsh - But all of them has cdrom as source?01:31
sudharshbigfoot1: cinerella..somethin of that sort01:32
[-DevinE-] where can i get ubuntu logon screens?01:32
bigfoot1KakiPukul: i'm trying to open an avi file in kino, but it "aborts". you face the same problem?01:32
el_froggyi just wrote my first cpp file, how do i compile it?01:32
bigfoot1sudharsh: seveas says tat cinerella is not packaged yet01:32
KakiPukulkino? wait...01:32
sudharshjpotex: no they arent cdrom sources...01:32
jpotexsudharsh - Then I cant be where you want me to be?01:32
KakiPukul!tell el_froggy about gcc01:32
[-DevinE-] !wiki01:32
sudharshbigfoot1: nope nvr used em...try compoilinf from source01:32
jpotexsudharsh - Because the url in them starts with cdrom:01:33
[-DevinE-] !wiki logon01:33
KakiPukulqwell, bigfoot1, it is for DVs, not AVIs01:33
KakiPukuli got the same error too..01:33
sudharshjpotex: pardon me...i think we r lost...lets start from the forst01:33
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jpotexsudharsh - I found what you meant now :)01:33
sudharshjpotex: welln then reload the pkg list01:34
KakiPukulel_froggy - usually we do this ''gcc <filename.cpp>"01:34
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jpotexsudharsh - Huh?01:34
bigfoot1what file should i get from http://heroinewarrior.com/download.php3?01:34
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marius_Hello, Ive got the following question. Is there a possibility to forward ports directly in Ubuntu. For example fr Skype..01:34
_stianpeople, anyone that can help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=788337#post78833701:34
KakiPukulwell there are other options/switch... the default executable is a.out I think01:34
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jpotexI have a list of some alternatives and the windows has the title Software Sources.... but there's nothing like reload or so... I can use Add, Remove, Edit01:35
peejmarius_: what do you mean?01:35
bigfoot1http://heroinewarrior.com/download.php3 is the downloads page of cinerella. i don't know which is appropriete01:35
jpotexsudharsh: I have a list of some alternatives and the windows has the title Software Sources.... but there's nothing like reload or so... I can use Add, Remove, Edit01:35
jpotexsudharsh - And Authenticiation and Settings01:35
Protocol1time to pop a pill01:35
djpis this what i need to do if i want to get a webcam working under breezy? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spca5xx#head-a41c9f1dcbc1ea763d572e99ba1e4928ee0625d1. i am referring to the alternative steps... replacing the spca5xx driver01:35
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sudharshjpotex: click add01:36
jpotexsudharsh - Or ah, now I see what you meant. :P Sorry01:36
sudharshjpotex: :)01:36
_stianwhat packages are essential to a successfull compile? (people, anyone that can help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=788337#post788337)01:36
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KakiPukul"build-essential", _stian01:36
KakiPukulthe exact name for the debian package...01:37
marius_peej: How I described it. If there is a possibility to forward ports in Ubuntu?01:37
peejmarius_ : ssh -L option will do it generally.01:38
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KakiPukulforward port... cumbersome, but I did a few ubuntu forward porting, especially breezy+dappers01:38
CineFX3D_guys, can you recommend a good news reader?01:38
CineFX3D_I was thinking pan maybe?01:38
_stianI have all the build-essential stuff, but it still won't work01:38
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_stianakregator01:38
KakiPukuloh the other kind of porting :)01:38
jpotexsudharsh - Now Im gonna try again01:38
ssdocan i ask help in here01:39
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sudharshjpotex: make sure u hav added the repos01:39
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jpotexIt said I have, but now there's another problem with "sudo apt-get install kopete". :(01:39
KakiPukulssdo, no, but If you actually ask the question. we would answer :)01:39
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KakiPukulit needs kde?01:40
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irvs10tzhey guys.. anyone hir familiar with freestyle online?? looks like the set-up is for windows only.. can i get some help if i can install this one in ubuntu.....................01:40
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jpotexsudharsh - E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavaible), E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dbpk), is another process using it?01:40
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KakiPukul_stian, you need the ffmpeg development library :)01:41
bastI think theres an emulation program for windows appz ...01:41
zirasun# <ubuntu-fr>01:41
jpotexsudharsh - That comes when I use "sudo apt-get install kopete"01:41
sudharshjpotex: well of course u r unning synaptic as well01:41
jpotexHm ok01:41
irvs10tzbast, can i install windows programs in linux???01:41
sudharshirvs10tz: wine01:41
jpotexsudharsh - That just get me back to where I was before?01:41
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KakiPukul"libavformat-dev" - > package that you need to install, _stian01:42
jpotexsudharsh - The synaptic package manager01:42
zirasunplease past to ubuntu french01:42
_stiani have ffmpeg01:42
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bastI heard that in SuSE its possible with an Emulation Program to run Windows applications01:42
_stiani also have libavformat-dev01:42
irvs10tzsudharsh, if i install wine, i can be able to run windows apps?01:42
sudharshjpotex: u cant 'apt-get install'  and run synaptic at the same time01:42
sudharshirvs10tz: sure most of em01:43
bastit should work01:43
jpotexsudharsh - Well, I didnt do that.01:43
KakiPukulit doesn't compile,? maybe the path set isn't pointing to those library? tried the PATH flag?01:43
jpotexsudharsh - However, I refreshed after changing source for apt-get, but it still ask for the cdrom01:43
KakiPukulirvs10tz, not all windows programs though, technically some...01:43
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ssdoi have a dell c840 in which the lcd sometimes flickers any ideas how to resolve this?01:43
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jpotexsudharsh - And now I can't get back into synaptic after running that apt-get command, bah01:44
sudharshjpotex: ok we'll do this another way01:44
ssdoi am on breezy and my display card is nvidia geforce 401:44
sudharshjpotex: close that terminal which is apt-gettin01:44
KakiPukulthe monitor refresh rate in you xorg config doesn;t match your monitor's refresh rate, ssdo01:44
jpotexsudharsh- Ok, and then?01:44
KakiPukultry to reconfigure your monitor refresh rate...01:45
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sudharshjpotex: from a terminal 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'01:45
KakiPukuldpkg-reconfigure xorg-server? right?01:45
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sudharshKakiPukul: rite...:)01:45
jpotexsudharsh - Ok, and now?01:45
ssdokakipukul, so where can get help to fix this?01:46
KakiPukulno, wrong package... xserver-common...01:46
sudharshjpotex: ok now if u scroll up and down u'll find a set of urls that are commented out..01:46
KakiPukulyour must know the refresh rate that your monitor support, the easy way is looking for it in Windows...01:46
jpotexsudharsh - Yepp?01:46
jpotexsudharsh - But also a set of urls which isnt commented out01:47
sudharshjpotex: remove the comments..01:47
jpotexsudharsh - All of them?01:47
KakiPukulnext do the package configuration, and enter your refresh manually, after autodetect fails...01:47
sudharshjpotex: thats the default thing,,no need to worry bout em01:47
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[Leo] hello!01:47
ardchoillesudharsh: that can also be done from the settings of Synaptic (Show disabled software sources)01:47
jpotexsudharsh - done01:47
sudharshjpotex: you are your own judge...01:47
NET||abuseanyone know a good svn gui i could use?01:47
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KakiPukulgotta charge my battery...01:48
equadorwhere i can default sources.list ?01:48
sudharshardchoille: hes havin troubl with that01:48
equadorwhere i can get default sources.list ?01:48
ardchoillesudharsh: ah, ok01:48
jpotexsudharsh - And now?01:48
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sudharshjpotex: open up another terminal and 'sudo apt-get update'01:48
KakiPukulequador, reinstall apt-get?01:48
equadorhow01:48
sudharshequador: its located in the /etc/apt01:48
ardchoilleequador: /etc/apt/sources.list01:48
jpotexsudharsh- Ok, doin that now01:48
equadoryes, i know... but i want reinstall sources.list only01:48
equadorbecause my sources.list is empty01:49
jpotexsudharsh - Done01:49
jpotexsudharsh - ANd now?01:49
sudharshjpotex: now...sudo apt-get install kopete01:49
ardchoilleequador: /etc/apt/sources.list.save ?01:49
jpotexsudharsh - Thanks, it works :D01:49
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ardchoilleequador: /etc/apt/sources.list~ ?01:49
equadorno...01:49
equador:(01:49
jpotexsudharsh - Even though the us-sources are a little slow01:49
sudharshjpotex: remember u cant hav two instances of apt runnin..01:50
jpotexsudharsh - Nah01:50
sudharshjpotex: indian mirrors r fast here :P01:50
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ardchoilleequador: you can get a new list generated at: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:50
CineFX3D_ok, this might sound stupid.. but I made a sym link on my desktop which goes to one directory (starts nautilus).. and there is a white/blue arrow thing over my icon on desktop.. is there a way to remove this visual "feature"?01:50
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jpotexsudharsh - Thanks for the help though01:51
sudharshjpotex: :)01:51
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jpotexsudharsh - I'm still a little confused over the thing with UTF8 though01:51
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ardchoilleCineFX3D_: that "visual feature" is there to tell you that it is a link to something else. Can you right click it and change the icon?01:52
zeraphathI installed Ubuntu yesterday on my emachines T6410...it installed fine..but for some reason the X server is hosed after install...this computer has a ATI radeon xpress 200 on the mobo...anyone know what I need to do to get ubuntu graphics working?01:52
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sudharshjpotex: dunno much bout that01:52
jpotexsudharsh - My mates complains over me using UTF8 so our three last characters doesn't work properly, but I don't know how to change that into our own encoding01:52
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CineFX3D_ardchoille: I know what it is for.. I've changed my icon.. and it's still there.. I'd be glad to get rid of it on just that icon01:53
sudharshjpotex: u mean whilst sharing text files wiht windowz users?01:53
jpotexsudharsh - While writing in irssi for an example01:53
sudharsh...no exp in that...u r greek n latin to me rite now :(01:53
jpotexsudharsh - Windows (at least not the swedish version) doesn't use utf801:53
jpotexHehe ok01:53
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irvs10tzhey guys!, i already downloaded wine but i cant find it.. any ideas where can i find it?????????????????????/01:55
CineFX3D_which text editor you recommend for php/html/javascript and a bit of c++? I need utf8 support for files.. I'm kinda used to UltraEdit on windows :/01:55
sudharshirvs10tz:..u dont need to01:55
sudharshwine <app-name>01:55
kemikjpotex: det gr att ndra i terminalen instllningar....01:55
zeraphathUsers of Ubuntu Hoary (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/) can do the following:01:55
zeraphathsudo apt-get install fglrx-driver01:55
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irvs10tzsudharsh, what do u mean? if i already downloaded wine this means i can already install windows apps???01:56
zeraphathSo can't Ubuntu detect this at install time and adjust accordingly?01:56
sudharshirvs10tz: if through apt-get..then yes :)01:56
kemikjpotex: or you could search http://ubuntu-se.org/01:56
irvs10tzsudharsh, i downloaded it using synaptic.........01:57
sudharshzeraphath: ati drivers and linux dont go well...01:57
jpotexkemik - I'll try the board on linux.se01:57
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sudharshirvs10tz: yeah man..its installed01:57
irvs10tztnx01:57
azurehuesofblueHi, I have two monitors plugged into my nividia geforce card and only the one monitor works and the other one has multi colored flickering lines.  Where do I start?? Is this a driver issue?01:57
sudharshCineFX3D_: cream works for me01:58
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sudharshany vi -based editor for that matter01:59
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kbrooks17 days left...01:59
kbrooksi think.01:59
kbrooksam i right?01:59
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kbrooks!dapper01:59
ubotudapper is, like, pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! >/join #ubuntu+1< for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates01:59
S0me1!bash02:00
ubotuFor a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands02:00
S0me1guys,what is the best mirro for apt?02:00
sudharshS0me1: the default ones shouuld suffice...02:01
sudharshafaik..mirrors from ur country are selected by default02:01
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avalostAnybody know goods places to get fonts?02:02
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avalost!fonts02:02
ubotuhmm... fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto02:02
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S0me1avalost, copy windows fonts02:02
BurgermannWhere can I find the an url for an online repository?.. my CD install fails :(((02:03
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sudharshBurgermann: u dont need to...edit the source.list accordingly02:03
S0me1Burgermann, sudo apt-get update02:03
BurgermannI'm not even that far.. I'm stuck in the installation process02:03
sudharshBurgermann: oh..ok..did u download em02:04
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BurgermannDon't know. I burned a breezy CD and I think it's my old laptop CD-ROM drive courses the pain. I wan't to install from the online repositories.02:05
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Burgermanncauses*02:05
sudharshBurgermann: does the installation hang02:05
Rawplayermi02:06
sudharshtheres a chance the image may be corrupt02:06
BurgermannNah I seem to get to a menu from where I can choose one of the installation steps02:06
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yezariaelhey there02:06
yezariaelhow can i install the "make" command?02:06
sudharshBurgermann: plz expalin the contents02:06
BurgermannI saw I could set apt-get up, so I jumped to that step02:06
Jae686anyone have any thoughs about http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=788288#post788288 ?02:06
sudharshBurgermann: u carried on to advanced installation then02:07
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yezariaelhey yoyo?02:07
Burgermannsudharsh: yeah it showed me this, when it failed copying the base system02:07
yezariaelcan anyone tell me how to install the make-command?02:08
sudharshBurgermann: oh oh...02:08
sudharshBurgermann: sure the image is not corrupt?? been there many times02:08
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sudharsh!build-essential02:08
ubotu[build-essential]  a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info02:08
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sudharshyezariael: dta was for u02:09
yezariael!build-essential02:09
Burgermannsudharsh: it didn't say it was corrupt. It just said it could'nt install package xx02:09
yezariaelokay02:09
yezariaelthx02:09
azurehuesofbluehow do I turn X server on and off?02:09
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[Leo] azurehuesofblue, do you mean at startup?02:09
sudharshBurgermann: then a faulty media or drive..i guess02:10
azurehuesofbluewell, I'm trying to install a nvidia driver and it says it wont install until I turn X server off.02:10
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BurgermannI guess, I've tried a couple of times, and as I said I think it's my CD-ROM drive... it's a laptop and it's about 2-3 years old, so nothing's what it use to be02:10
djpsudharsh, hi. i think i asked you a question regards webcams yesterday? is this what i need to do if i want to get a webcam working under breezy? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spca5xx#head-a41c9f1dcbc1ea763d572e99ba1e4928ee0625d1. i am referring to the alternative steps... replacing the spca5xx driver02:10
azurehuesofblueLeo: so I guess it doesn't matter if at start up or not, but I want to know how to turn it back on after.02:11
sudharshdjp: i'll check02:11
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salvouyhello i need the latest repositories for debian, could anyone help me?02:11
salvouyhello i need the latest repositories for debian-ubuntu, could anyone help me?02:11
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echilonwhat packages do I need to install to be able to use 'make'?02:13
sudharshdjp: looks fine to me..02:13
echilonI just see a load of errors and warning when I try, and the thing doesn't work as it says in the readme02:13
sudharshechilon: build-essential, automake02:13
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echilonsudharsh, I have both of those installed02:14
j2daosh[4295057.999000]  smbfs: mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported02:14
Burgermannsudharsh: is there no way installing ubuntu using the online repositories?02:14
j2daoshwhat does that mean?02:14
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djpsudharsh, i gather i would need to do that under breezy, whatever webcam i use? it doesn't appear that any work due to the spca5xx bug, straight out of the box02:14
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sudharshBurgermann: nvr tried that on my dialup cdma connection :)02:14
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sudharshdjp: i guess u r referring to Toma's comments02:15
j2daoshim trying to mount my network drives and that is the error my syslog is reporting.... anyone know how i can fix it?02:15
azurehuesofblueanyone know how to turn X server off temporarly thru gnome or something, so I can install my video driver?02:16
sudharshdjp: if ur lucky..there wont be any probs...i had to compile my own kernel coz of freezing issues i had02:16
K0pheinhi there, i'm looking for a linux distro that supports a Creative Audigy 4 SoundCard. Does Ubuntu have support for it?02:16
sudharshazurehuesofblue: try killing the process02:16
K0pheinor where can i find a list of supported hardware?02:16
azurehuesofblueok, I'm a newb, what should I type... sigkill xserver or something?02:16
sudharshctrl+shift+f1 ahould land u on a virtual terminal02:16
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j2daoshok where can i find a list of things mounted on my computer right now... not ones in the fstab... the temp ones i just mounted??02:17
sudharshj2daosh: mount02:18
sudharshjus plain 'mount'02:18
j2daoshok it aint showing the samba drive i just mounted in there... i need the network path and all that so i can add it to my fstab02:18
slvmchnUSB midi controllers on ubuntu?02:19
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tatterswhat do I do with binary are they like a windows .exe?02:20
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azurehuesofblueyou have chmod them first in the command line02:21
M3t4ll1k0tatters, in console02:21
azurehuesofbluethen ./02:21
M3t4ll1k0./02:21
M3t4ll1k0yes02:21
M3t4ll1k0xD02:21
Aragorn_Guardiani need info in using synaptic02:21
tattersso where do i plae a binary?02:22
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pizuxhello02:22
Aragorn_Guardiani save marks of packages i wanna install/upgrade. is a text file with "package install" lines in it.02:22
pizuxis someone use wired here for music production02:22
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Aragorn_Guardianwhat comand i use to install those packages, based in this marks, in a console only box?02:22
Aragorn_Guardian??02:22
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azurehuesofbluetatters: go to the directory where the .bin file is... type "sudo chmod +x "filename"... then it will do that, then type ./"filename"...02:23
djpthanks sudharsh02:23
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SeerKanhow can i make a ftp on my server ( so i can connect to it trought ftp ) ?02:24
Aragorn_GuardianSeerKan:  sure02:24
Aragorn_GuardianSeerKan:  but ftp is unsafe...prefer ssh always.02:24
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tattersAzure do I choose the file name myself?02:25
SeerKanAragorn_Guardian i want to upload some files there... how can i do it with ssh ?02:25
tattersor replace with name of the file02:25
djpsudharsh, sorry, one last thing... what packages can i use with a webcam under breezy?02:25
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Philiphow do I 'terminal service' from windows to my linux server? (I want to run some of my Linux GUI apps on Windows) I have used cygwin Xserver in the past but that was resource intensive.02:25
linuxboyfriendhi all02:25
Aragorn_GuardianSeerKan:  use scp02:25
ccc_tatters: no, the filename of the binary02:25
azurehuesofblueno hehe, you are very new to this... just type whatever the file name is that is already on there.02:25
Aragorn_GuardianSeerKan:  or better, rsync02:25
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tatterslol yup V new to this02:26
azurehuesofblueI'm new too, it's cool.02:26
ccc_Aragorn_Guardian: what do you mean? "sudo apt-get install <package>" installs stuff02:26
tattersok and if I all that will do what exactly?02:26
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azurehuesofbluesee if you can get it to install then come back. :)02:27
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linuxboyfriendi was configuring a package but the configure give this error: "Configure: error: /usr/bin/xmkmf (imake) failed" can anyone tell me whats wrong? as xmkmf is installed02:27
SeerKanAragorn_Guardian i will need some help to lear how to use rsync, if you could give me an example on how do i upload file x from my computer to the server i would understand02:27
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azurehuesofbluetatters:  I don't know enough to walk you through it all02:28
Aragorn_Guardianccc_:  nice...but using synaptic, i save my package list. all made in it, works, cause it does dependencies. is possible do the same with apt???02:28
zax1wonder if any of you wise owls can help a green novice like my self with adding anubuntu machine to a windows workgroup02:28
Aragorn_Guardianlike apt-get -i <mark_file02:28
Aragorn_Guardian???02:28
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tattersk thnx,  ill give it shot02:28
Aragorn_GuardianSeerKan:  nice...2 min02:28
Aragorn_Guardian8)02:28
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azurehuesofbluek02:29
Eidanhi all02:29
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Eidansomeone can help me installing nvidia driver on ubuntu flight4?02:29
tattersso basically it would be like installing a windows package by doing that with a binary?02:29
Eidani've no problem whit ubuntu 5.0.102:29
Eidanbut i'm not abel to installe them on flight402:29
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Eidan*able to install02:29
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zarephathEidan: Well since Dapper is still in development it might now have them available yet...see the topic and ask in that channel02:30
zarephath*not*02:30
Xappei'm trying to compile the lates guifications for gaim 2.0cvs but I get this error during make (configure works without errors): http://pastebin.com/58182802:30
Eidanok02:30
Eidantnx02:30
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zax1any help with linux-windows networking ?02:31
ccc_Aragorn_Guardian: yes, apt-get displays all dependencies and suggestions.02:31
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Aragorn_Guardianccc_:  but i can pass a file to it???02:31
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Aragorn_GuardianSeerKan:  gonna put it on rafb02:31
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zarephathHow can I cut and paste from command line?02:32
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fcasteloHi02:32
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SeerKanAragorn_Guardian rafb ?02:32
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fcasteloIs there anyone that could help me on user config after updated02:32
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linuxboyfriendhi all02:33
SiriusAhi, i want to install "nvtv" but adept dont find it. i enabled universe, but its still not there... does someone of you could install it?02:33
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djpcan anyone tell me what pakcages i can use with a webcam under breezy?02:33
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fcasteloI lost my user configuration and now could not manage printers02:33
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btdownsiriusa its there...u have multiverse enabled? nvtv - Tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux02:34
linuxboyfriendi was installing a package, the configure give this error: "Configure: error: /usr/bin/xmkmf (imake) failed" can anyone tell me the solution, moreover xmkmf is alread installed02:34
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Aragorn_Guardianhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/CF1VNd56.html02:35
fcasteloSee Bug #2932602:35
Aragorn_GuardianSeerKan:  comments welcome02:35
SiriusAbtdown, i have .... wait ill paste my source.list02:35
CineFX3D_anyone knows how code-completion works in cream?02:35
Aragorn_GuardianSeerKan:  make some tests in tests dirs... ;)02:35
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foampeacehi02:35
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foampeacehow do you install a deb with dependencies?02:36
SiriusAbtdown, http://rafb.net/paste/results/a9Me3T93.html02:36
linuxboyfriendcan anyone tell me the solution of that problem02:36
zax1can any one help me make my ubuntu computer visible to my windows networked computers ?02:36
Aragorn_GuardianSeerKan:  sorry...syntax is rs SOURCEDIR user@host:TARGETDIR02:36
CornuWhat would be the best solution to mount partitions (containing big files: xvid,etc ..) on a ubuntu desktop computer from a debian server over a LAN ? NTFS ? Samba ??02:36
CineFX3D_zax1: install samba02:37
zax1i think it is installed already02:37
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Aragorn_GuardianSeerKan:  i think you need rsync, ssh, scp in one machine, and scp and ssh in another...02:38
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zax1cinefx3d > but my windows computers cant see it02:38
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Aragorn_GuardianSeamusLP:  you can do amazing things, like copy among two or more hosts... one copyying to another... 8)02:38
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SeerKanAragorn_Guardian and that code ... i put it where ?02:39
ccc_Aragorn_Guardian: sorry, "pass a file"? i'm not sure what you mean. perhaps aptitude suit your needs. try "man aptitude" and check the wiki.02:39
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Aragorn_GuardianSeamusLP:  like...your machine A access B, C is inacessible by A, only by B. you can rsync passing a long line, and sync A to C passing by B. 8)02:39
Aragorn_GuardianSeerKan:  is a shell script02:40
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Aragorn_GuardianSeerKan:  only options to rsync commnd. maybe bwlimit is not so useful02:40
drjguys im trying to connect to glftpd and i keep getting unknown host.. ftp 192.168.0.211:4356702:40
drjftp: 192.168.0.211:43567: Unknown host02:40
drj.  any ideas?02:40
Aragorn_Guardianccc_:  thanks..gonna read02:40
zarephathdrJ: Depends...are you forwarding?02:41
drjim behind nat but im trying to connect form the same box.. do i need o foward the ports for this?  it would be done locally wouldnt it?02:41
zarephathdrj: Nevermind...looks like you are trying to do this inside your LAN02:41
Cornudrj: did you try 127.0.0.1 ?02:42
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Aragorn_GuardianSeerKan:  good luck...gotta go...02:42
Eidanhi all02:42
drjyes cornu.. same02:42
Cornuhi Eidan02:42
Eidanhi Cornu02:42
zarephathdrj: First thing to make sure is setup is your hosts files...it is much better to setup ftp server on one machine and try to connect from a different one..02:42
drji tried cjubuntu which it the name of the box aswell02:42
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Cornuyou probably have a problem with your network configuration, look in your /etc/resolv.conf02:43
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drjdoes the ftp program with ubuntu only allow me to use port 21?02:44
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zomohey guyz02:45
zomoi was gonna install new ubuntu on my box but the base installation failed02:45
zarephathdrj: U can set it up anyway you see fit...02:46
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zomoi need to repair grubg.. is it possible to do so using LIVE CD02:46
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drjmm thought so but thats what someone said might be the problem.. im a semi newbie :)02:46
zomolol02:46
Cornudrj: can you ping 127.0.0.1, the hostame, the IP adresse ?02:46
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tattersanyone know what to do with binary files02:47
mustard5zomo: its possible yes02:47
zomoo.002:47
mustard5!grub02:47
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting02:47
_jasontatters: execute them?02:47
zarephathAs Cornu said...if you can't ping your nic, the hostname, ip address of the ftp server...then there is a connectivity problem..that is where I would look to first02:47
tatterswell how am I spossed to execute them?02:48
zomowell to open a BIN file we need a cue file02:48
drjyeh i can ping all 3..02:48
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harleygstartkeylogger02:48
_jasontatters: /path/to/file.bin02:48
drj ping cjubuntu02:48
drjPING localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.02:48
drj64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=...  etc02:48
zarephathdrj: Define all 3? the loopback, ip address, and hostname?02:48
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_jasontatters: assuming they are executable02:48
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zarephathdrj: You  only pinged the loopback address...02:48
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zarephathping the assigned address of you machine02:49
tattersjason whats the difference between .bin and .sbin where do I place it?02:49
_jasontatters: an s02:49
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tatterslol02:49
drji did the other two aswell..02:49
_jasontatters: what files are we talking about?02:49
drj127.0.0.1 and 192.168.0.21102:49
tattersso it matters not where it is?02:49
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tatterssnort-nline-mysql02:49
_jasontatters: sbin is usually for administrative stuff02:50
SeerKansome help pls, i installed vsftpd on my server but i can only log in with anonymous, how can i make it so all the users from my server have ftp access ?02:50
tatterssnort-inline-mysql02:50
btdownsiriusA try my sources list http://rafb.net/paste/results/7FJJDr25.html02:50
zarephathdrj: Ahh..ok then how bout trying ping -c3 192.168.0.211:<your port number>?02:50
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drjping 192.168.0.211:4356702:50
drjping: unknown host 192.168.0.211:4356702:50
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zarephathdrj: Ahh..ok then how bout trying ping port 2102:51
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Cornudrj: I assume you set up your ftp server to listen to the port 43567 instead of 21 ?02:51
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tatterswell I cd to the directory then /snort-inline-mysql and it sasy no bash command found02:52
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_jasontatters: snort-mysql is in the repositories, is this different?02:53
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drjpinging 192.168.0.211:21 doesnt work..   yes i told glftpd to listen on 43567..02:53
tattersye its a binary download  compiiled  with  snort-inline02:54
tattersnot from repos02:54
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_jasontatters: ./file, if you are in the directory02:54
zax1how do i know if i run a 386 kernel or 686 ?02:55
_jasonzax1: uname -r02:55
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tattersyup tried that got bash command not found02:55
zax1can u elaborate jason, i am very green02:55
zarephathzax1: Do you want to know how to know if you need to run one or the other?02:55
_jasontatters: chmod +x file02:55
tattersno bash command found02:56
zax1yes jareph02:56
_jasonzax1: in accessories > terminal, type 'uname -r'.  The last 2 numbers will tell you02:56
tattersI done that already02:56
_jasonzax1: I mean 302:56
zax1k, thanks02:56
_jasontatters: ls -l, on pastebin please02:56
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ptorpi have a NGS usb showcam plus the system detected but dont work , sy dont have dev/video002:59
tattersjason that command should it just list a few lines of txt regarding ddrx etc?02:59
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DarKSideSHiya guys03:00
shukhratGood Day All !03:00
DarKSideSi was wwonderin If ya could help me real quick03:00
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_jasontatters: yes, if there are too many just do ls -l *snort*03:01
SiriusAanyone else got nvtv installed?03:01
_jasonDarKSideS: just ask, if someone knows they will try :)03:01
DarKSideSHow can i Use my Ipod on Ubuntu?03:01
shukhrati have problem with directory \var\www\03:01
_jason!ipod03:01
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto03:01
djpSiriusA, yes. it is in the universe repo03:01
DarKSideSWoot.03:01
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Pasteurizedhi all03:01
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djpSiriusA, i use it to pump movies out to my tv with overscan03:02
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djpSiriusA, i use it with the nv driver03:02
shukhrati would like replace .html file with my own in directory \var\www\ but can't why ?03:02
zax1how do i configure samba on ubuntu ?03:02
tatters_drwxr-xr-x  3 tatters tatters 4096 2006-03-03 12:16 Desktop   <--that what I got back03:02
SiriusAdjp, could you paste your sources.list? because mine dont work03:02
Ng!sources03:02
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource03:02
SiriusAdjp, i enabled universe repo, but its still not there :(03:02
PasteurizedIs anyone could help me to fix my firefox problem ? It crashed, and dont want to be launch anymore03:03
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snowblinkshukhrat, for a start you should be using forward slashes. Assuming those were just typos, then it's a permissions issue.03:03
djpSiriusA, are you using synaptic?03:03
SiriusAdjp, yes03:03
Pasteurizedeither after reinstall or in safe mode "-p"03:03
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nixboxhi all03:04
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djpSiriusA, did you refresh the repo list after enabling the universe repo?03:04
nixboxi was installing ubuntu on an old machine, after the installation and probably before configuration, the machine got reset, now i can boot into ubuntu but it has a blank xorg.conf file03:05
_jasontatters: is the snort thing in your home directory?03:05
shukhratsnowblink: i cound any change in this directory why ?03:05
nixboxis there an X configuration utility that I can run?03:05
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Eidanok guys.....03:05
shukhrat*cound'nt03:05
_jasonnixbox: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:05
nixboxthanks03:05
Eidani've edited /etc/X11/XF86Config-403:05
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ptorpi have a NGS usb showcam plus the system detected but dont work , sy dont have dev/video003:05
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SiriusAdjp, yes. i just tried this sources.list : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604703:06
Eidanthis is the output03:06
Eidani've a nvidia 6600 GT agp 8x03:06
tatters_-rwx--x--x  1 tatters tatters 3410313 2006-03-03 12:14 snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql03:06
EidanSection "Device"03:06
EidanIdentifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x] "03:06
EidanDriver "nvidia"03:06
EidanBusID "PCI:1:0:0"03:06
EidanEndSection03:06
djpSiriusA, follow these steps... http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#addinguniverse.03:06
Eidanis correct?03:06
snowblinkshukhrat, probably because you don't have permission to03:06
_jasonEidan: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please03:06
Eidanwhat is?03:06
setuidI need to build the _exact_ same kernel that I'm running on Breezy, from source, because /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/ doesn't have a full build tree of modules required for building third-party modules. How can I do this without breaking my running kernel (which includes modules in /lib/modules/volatile, like fglrx)03:06
Cornuyou can past text there to share03:06
ptorphelp03:06
Eidanoh03:07
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Eidansorry03:07
shukhratsnowblink: how get permission ?03:07
_jasontatters: yes, './snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql2' will execute that file03:07
shukhratadd to group ?03:07
snowblinkshukhrat, man chmod03:07
DarKSideSthis is the thing, Im On live CD.... ubuntu... annddd I cant seem to save to anywhere, im trying to use my ipod to store... but i cant seem to03:07
DarKSideSany Ideas?03:07
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shukhratsnowblink: in terminal ?03:07
snowblink!chmod03:07
ubotuI guess chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.03:07
Eidansomeone can tell me if is correct my configuration?03:07
Eidani've no acceleration..03:08
snowblinkshukhrat, yes, in a terminal03:08
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DarKSideSchmod?03:08
DarKSideS!chmod?03:08
ubotuit has been said that chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.03:08
Eidannoeone?03:08
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Feerxcan anyone give an example of you to use the flags for the date command? like date -d (dosnt work)03:09
Feerxtere is like 1000 options in the man page but i can get them to work =)03:09
SiriusAdjp, i did that.... look at my sources.list i send you the url... i updatet, but still no luck :(03:09
UBLdate +%d03:09
DarKSideSso any ideas on Mounting my Ipod?03:09
shukhratdear snowblink could you explain little bit wath is this chmod ?03:09
shukhrat*want03:10
FeerxUBL: oh.. thanks missed the + sighn03:10
tatters_jaso sry but how do I  run it , I get bash: snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql2: command not found03:10
shukhrat*what is chmod ?03:10
_jasontatters: what did you type exactly?03:10
setuidAnyone know?03:10
setuidI need to build the _exact_ same kernel that I'm running on Breezy, from source, because /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/ doesn't have a full build tree of modules required for building third-party modules. How can I do this without breaking my running kernel (which includes modules in /lib/modules/volatile, like fglrx)03:10
snowblinkshukhrat, open a terminal. Type in: man chmod. Read it.03:10
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tatters_well I cd to directory / snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql203:11
DarKSideSsnowblink , any idea on how i can Mount my ipod?03:11
_jasontatters: that's now what I said.  type exactly './03:11
_jasonerm03:11
_jasontatters: that's now what I said.  type exactly './snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql2'03:11
tatters_do I have to cd to the directory first ?03:12
hatake_kakashiDarKSideS: generally speaking from Hoary release to later versions (not sure about the Dapper release) it should be able to detect it immediately and show up iPod under the Nautilus window03:12
_jasontatters: you have to be in the directory it is located03:12
DarKSideSIm using a live CD, I would think it differ's?03:12
tatters_tatters@server1:/opt/lampp/sbin$ ./snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql203:13
tatters_bash: returns No such file or directory03:13
_jasontatters: what does 'file snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql2' say?03:13
Eidani've some trouble....03:13
Eidanroot@ubuntu:~# sudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:13
Eidansudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found03:13
Eidan:(03:13
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hatake_kakashiDarKSideS: technically no, so long as its not Dapper or else I'm not sure03:14
DarKSideSDapper?03:14
Eidansome one can help me?03:14
hatake_kakashi!tell DarKSideS about dapper03:14
hatake_kakashiEidan: you forgot to install a package before installing the nvidia kernel I presume03:15
tatters_ERROR: cannot open `snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql2' (No such file or directory)03:15
badzonyi need some help03:15
_jasontatters: that means you are not in the right directory I guess03:15
NgEidan: have you installed the nvidia-glx package?03:15
DarKSideSok, welll that would still need me to store it, any commands i can use, i mean i cant save shit.03:15
Eidanyes03:15
EidanNg03:15
Eidanafter that i receve that error03:15
DarKSideS--Delete S&*t03:15
Eidanwhat can i do?03:16
Eidani'm in dapper flight 403:16
Eidan(don't tell me to go in ubuntu+1 no one speak there.. :)03:16
NgEidan: dpkg -L nvidia-glx to see where it is, try running it with the full path03:16
hatake_kakashiEidan: did you install nvidia-settings?03:16
Eidanyes03:16
tatters_snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, statically linked, not stripped03:16
djpSiriusA, your sources.list looks fine... i'm stumped... sorry03:17
hatake_kakashiEidan: and you followed the instructions from the ubuntu site?03:17
SiriusAdjp, ok, is it maybe because i installed the nvidia drivers manually?03:17
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_jasontatters: now do the ./snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysqlsnort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql.gz03:18
Eidanyes hatake03:18
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_jasontatters: bah you know what I mean03:18
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SiriusAsomeone else got "nvtv" installed?03:18
Eidanand is a fresh installation..03:18
Eidanwhat i've to do?03:18
DarKSideSand my windows is ntsc, so i dont think it would save there.03:18
DarKSideS:-\03:18
DarKSideSDamn it03:18
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btdownsiriusA heres the sources list again http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/967203:18
zax1how can i add more resolution options ?03:18
hatake_kakashiDarKSideS: ntfs03:18
hatake_kakashiDarKSideS: and no, ubuntu wouldn't touch those parts03:19
DarKSideSyea03:19
ompaulhatake_kakashi, maybe it was a video card :)03:19
btdownsiriusA what does it say when you do a "apt-cache search nvtv"03:19
zax1i only have 320x240 and 640x48003:19
DarKSideSNTSC = Film, sorry im tryin to multi task.03:19
DarKSideSUmmmm So What can I do03:19
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hatake_kakashiDarKSideS: check to see if nvidia-glx-config is under /usr/sbin by doing 'which nvidia-glx-config'03:20
tatters_tatters@server1:/opt/lampp/sbin$ ./snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql  ->>Segmentation fault03:20
hatake_kakashiompaul: ?03:20
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zax1any ideas ?03:20
ompaulhatake_kakashi, the tv standards ntsc pal and so on :-)03:20
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_jasontatters: well you ran it, no figure out why you get a seg fault.  If I were you and really wanted this thing I would compile it from source03:21
xpjiangman cpu03:21
ompaul!resolution03:21
_jasontatters: s/no/now03:21
ubotuwell, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:21
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ompaulzax1, ^^03:21
SiriusAbtdown, no output --> no result03:21
SiriusAbtdown, with your sources.list03:21
zax1thanks ompaul03:21
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S0me1zax1, sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:21
DarKSideSwhich nvidia-glx-config  ... as root?03:22
asdrcan someone tell me if the 386 version recognizes 2 processors03:22
hatake_kakashiompaul: ah ok03:22
SiriusAbtdown, but i had to comment "deb http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ breezy-seveas freenx" out03:22
hatake_kakashiDarKSideS: yes03:22
ompaul!tell DarKSideS about nvidia03:22
hatake_kakashiompaul: it appears DarKSideS has already read that or something03:22
ompaulDarKSideS, don't know if anyone pushed that towards you alread?03:22
ompaulhatake_kakashi, ahh03:23
tatters_k jason thnx, I just cant figure out Y runnig this is not happening nvr tried a bin file bfr so it dont help its not working03:23
zax1s0mel, i get command not found03:23
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_jasonubotu: tell tatters about compile03:23
DarKSideSLoL, Ummm dont think so, now, another issue, since it's LIve cd, i never created a root account, what would that be.... cause i pressed enter on pass, and error03:23
SiriusAbtdown, maybe the problem is, that i installed the nvidia driver manually?03:23
zax1ii run kubuntu, dont know if it makes any diferance03:23
_jasontatters: grab the source and compile it, the most important step in this process is reading the README and INSTALL files usually included03:24
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hatake_kakashiDarKSideS: and before when I asked you, you said no :P03:24
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DarKSideShatake_kakashi, What are you talking about man?03:24
hatake_kakashiahh ffs I got muddled up :p03:24
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ompaul!tell DarKSideS about root03:25
tattersWell I beentrying to  avoid  compiling it seems pretty time consuming  but I guess I shall have to learn at some point03:25
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btdownsiriusA hrm could be...i've always apt-getted it... sorry.03:25
ompaulDarKSideS, there is a disabled root by default, so we think like there are super user powers but not used by root read that page I had the bot send you03:26
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S0me1zax1, it's same03:26
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S0me1zax1, it's same03:26
S0me1zax1, ls /etc/X1103:26
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zax1vi instead of ls ?03:26
zax1no such file or command03:27
S0me1zax1, sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:27
S0me1you must put sudo03:27
zax1i did03:27
zax1i have no x11 directory03:27
btdownhrm is there an apt-get flag/switch to see what repo a certain package is located in?03:28
DarKSideShatake_kakashi, warty@ubuntu:~ $ sudo which nvidia-glx-config03:28
S0me1zax1, no. X11 not x1103:28
DarKSideSi aint get no feed back03:28
shukhratsnowblink: it's not working again03:28
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zax1damn case03:28
shukhratsnowblink: are u here ?03:28
S0me1zax1, ubotu gave you nice site https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:28
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ompaulDarKSideS, have you broad band?03:28
DarKSideSYea.03:28
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ompaulDarKSideS, get a more modern one03:28
S0me1zax1, read it please03:28
DarKSideSI cant03:29
DarKSideSI cant save.03:29
ompaulDarKSideS, that has about a months support left03:29
zax1somel i followed that but with the sam results03:29
shukhratsnowblink: how isntall midnigth commander ?03:29
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zax1i'll try and stick to right casing...03:29
DarKSideSi was trying to download, and save to my iPod But nothing.03:29
davrodoe anyone know what the best kernel framebuffer vga setting would be for the resolution of 1440x900 ?03:29
shukhrathow isntall midnigth commander ? (mc)03:29
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shukhrat*install03:29
davrosudo apt-get install mc03:29
gnomefreakany idea how to test 3d accel? direct rendering is yes but my fps is only at 2000 is that normal? i thought higher03:29
DarKSideSthe whole point is for me to get to save files on my iPod03:29
ompaulDarKSideS, if you have other operating systems we can show you how to write the disk to it03:29
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DarKSideSI Have Windows. But My internet isn't working on it, One reason for me using the Live cd was to get the drivers i need to get that up and running.03:30
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gnomefreakshukhrat: i would use synaptic because im not sure what the package name is03:31
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gnomefreakapt-cache search midnight commander should give you a list of the packages and choose what one you think it is than apt-get install03:31
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shukhrati need midnight commander ?03:32
gnomefreakshukhrat: you asked how to install it03:32
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gnomefreaki figured you wanted it03:32
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DarKSideSsooo yea, im left dolo.03:33
shukhratis it posible install Midnigth Commander03:33
shukhrat?03:33
gnomefreakshukhrat: yes it is03:33
gnomefreakshould be03:33
Ngsudo apt-get install mc03:33
shukhrathow ?03:33
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gnomefreakdidnt we just go over this :( shukhrat use the command that ng just gave03:34
SiriusAah i think i know why i cant install "nvtv"03:35
SiriusAbecause there is no package for amd6403:35
ompaulshukhrat, it requires you have universe enabled03:35
SiriusA:(03:35
shukhratgnowefreak03:35
gnomefreakshukhrat: ?03:35
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[balayhashi] if I install kubuntu-desktop i still get to keep gnome , and be able to choose between the two of them in the begining of every session?03:36
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DarKSideSany ideas you guys, im really left with nothing here.03:36
shukhratgnowefreak Ubuntu say's Coulnd't  find pakage name mc03:36
badzonyi need help03:36
gnomefreakSiriusA: i would look into it. there is a command that will allow you to use 32 bit on a 64 kernel i wanna say its chwmod  or something like that03:36
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salvouyi have installed ubuntu 5.10 but never asked me for root password on the installation, just user. now i wanna login as root and am asked for root password, how can i set it up ??03:36
kuja[balayhashi] : Yeah03:37
shukhratompaul how enable universe03:37
gnomefreakshukhrat: enable the universe repository03:37
shukhrat?03:37
badzonyi need help!!!03:37
DarKSideSBleh.03:37
gnomefreakubotu tell shukhrat about universe03:37
kujasalvouy: Your first account is the root account. The passwords are shared.03:37
DarKSideSAnyone.03:37
kujasalvouy: Ubuntu doesn't believe in operating under root.03:37
ompaul!tell shukhrat about universe03:37
kujasudo is to be used as a replacement.03:37
gnomefreak!helpme03:37
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.03:37
Makarakihello people, what's goin on? Nobady knows if in Linux exists any kind of softw similar to guitar pro?03:37
ompaul!tell salvouy about root03:37
dabajizzhello03:37
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ompaulsalvouy, please read the message from the bot03:37
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gnomefreakMakaraki: in synaptic ive seena  few but im not sure what guitar pro does03:38
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badzonywhat is meaning of this TCP/IP fingerprint:03:38
badzonySInfo(V=3.81%P=i686-pc-linux-gnu%D=3/3%Tm=440861FC%O=21%C=1)03:38
badzonyTSeq(Class=TR%TS=0)03:38
badzonyT1(Resp=Y%DF=N%W=4000%ACK=S++%Flags=AS%Ops=MNWNNT)03:38
badzonyT2(Resp=N)03:38
badzonyT3(Resp=N)03:38
shukhrat:) thanks it should be work !03:38
badzonyT4(Resp=N)03:38
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badzonyT5(Resp=Y%DF=N%W=0%ACK=S++%Flags=AR%Ops=)03:38
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badzonyT6(Resp=N)03:38
shukhrat:) thanks it should be work !03:38
badzonyT7(Resp=N)03:38
badzonyPU(Resp=N)03:38
shukhrat:) thanks it should  work !03:38
gnomefreakbadzony: please dont paste in here03:38
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dabajizzi  want to lean how to suppot my cleint on03:38
dabajizzmy net work?03:38
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Ng!tell badzony about pastebin03:38
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SiriusAgnomefreak, can you take a look at this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/967303:38
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SiriusAgnomefreak, i just found a amd64 package, but it wont install (not ubuntu compatible???) what can i do? -f install dont work also03:39
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gnomefreakSiriusA: can you paste your source.list file on pastebin please03:39
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Makarakignomefreak:its for play and edit tablatures in midi format normally you download files and you can play those songs that's more or less what guitar pro does03:40
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SiriusAgnomefreak, sure, one moment03:40
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gnomefreakMakaraki: i would look in synaptic or at packages.ubuntu.com03:40
naliothbadzony: please use a pastebin in the future03:41
SiriusAgnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604703:41
Makarakignomefreak: I will do the same as well03:41
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badzonyok03:41
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gnomefreakSiriusA: your not madpilot are you?03:42
badzonycan u answer now03:42
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ompaul!tell badzony about paste03:42
oskudeomg, another reason to go back to hoary, evolution 2.4 cant disable html mails... LOL ?!03:42
ompaulbadzony, sorry I don't know the reason for it03:42
SiriusAgnomefreak, if this is a nick, no :)03:42
gnomefreakSiriusA: i need you to open up /etc/apt/sources.list and paste the contents of it to pastebin03:43
DarKSideS:-\03:43
DarKSideSiPod?03:43
SiriusAgnomefreak, ah i see why you ask... b/c its the one who pasted this03:43
DarKSideSiPod? anyone03:43
SiriusAgnomefreak, yes, i use this sources03:43
oskudei doubt evolution has an irc channel where i can rant :)03:43
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oskudewhy the f**k does someone want to take away option to disable html mail ?!03:43
SiriusAgnomefreak, its just about dependecys :(03:44
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oskudei think imm getting to be a novell hater :)03:44
gnomefreakSiriusA: the versions are not matching and thats why i need to see YOUR list03:44
Cornuclear03:44
gnomefreakoskude: it doesnt take much :(03:44
LinuxJonesMorning everybody03:44
ompaulbadzony, I suggest that you paste it in a paste bin with a how you got / detected it and then post the question if someone can help they will, then you have a point of reference if you have to go to a mailing list03:44
DarKSideSmornin03:44
oskudeok, who can suggest me a good email client that HAS option to disable html mail rendering ?03:44
SiriusAgnomefreak, i use THIS list03:44
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gnomefreakoskude: sylpheed03:45
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oskudegnomefreak, noted, thnx03:45
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gnomefreakoskude: im pretty sure it does i havent had to do that tho but thought i saw something about it03:45
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SiriusAgnomefreak, thats the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/967403:46
oskudegnomefreak, i have read that evo2.2 had it by accident, and 2.4 has it as plugin (has to be compiled with) and may brake things... lol?03:46
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irvs10tzguys, need help here.. i'm installing an x-ms-dos-executable software here.. i already downloaded wine but the set-up won't initiate... need help here....................03:46
gnomefreaklol oskude03:47
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DarKSideS:\03:47
oskudeyeah, i gotta find out who thinked that noone wants to disable html mail03:47
oskudethat makes me think novell = spammers :)03:47
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DarKSideSDang it..so there's no solution ppl?03:47
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me2winfor what?03:47
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DarKSideSto connect my iPod03:48
gnomefreakSiriusA: run sudo apt-get update  than run sudo apt-get -f install and let me know what happens but really without seeing you list theres not much i can tell you. because it sounds like you have backports enabled. also are you one breezy?03:48
DarKSideSwhile using live CD03:48
Zoroastera defrag utility in Ubuntu?  does one exist?03:48
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MorgWhen I first start Firefox, right click on a link and do Save As, I get the Save As menu, but then the original right-click menu shows up again too. Anyone else have this problem?03:48
erUSULZoroaster, no need for one03:48
me2winDarKSideS, no03:49
me2winMorg, yes03:49
SiriusAgnomefreak, im on breezy, i updated, and i will post you my sources i used before... (i changed them to the one i send to you)03:49
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Morgme2win: Know if there's any way to fix it? Sometimes the browser crashes when I do a Save As.03:49
DarKSideSany way i can create a partition On a ntfs drive?03:49
ZoroastererUSUL, so, the linux file system never gets fragmented?03:49
DarKSideSwhile using live cd?03:49
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Spliffsterhi room, has anyone expected the "configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables." error of configure with ubuntu ? (gcc is installed)03:50
me2winMorg, not sure, I think it's just a buh03:50
me2winbug*03:50
erUSULZoroaster, such a little that it does not represent a problem03:50
trappistSpliffster: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:50
oskudehow i love these corporate websites, so easy to find an email address...03:50
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Spliffstertrappist: ty, will try03:50
me2winSpliffster, do you have build-essential?03:50
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me2winnvm, he helped you03:51
EricNeonhi all~03:51
SiriusAgnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/967503:51
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Spliffsterme2win: doesn't look lik ... some stuff is beeing installed now ...03:51
ZoroastererUSUL, thanks for the info03:51
SiriusAgnomefreak, and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/967403:51
erUSULZoroaster, np03:52
SiriusAgnomefreak, im on amd6403:52
DarKSideS.?03:52
DarKSideSpartitioning?03:52
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Spliffstertrappist, me2win: that's it. thank you guys, i owe you a c(_)!03:52
Spliffstercheers03:52
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me2winSpliffster, np03:53
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gnomefreakSiriusA: your sourceslist looks nothing like the one you posted before03:53
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gnomefreakyou need to use mad pilots list if that was your full list you gave me you have alot of work to do with it03:54
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SiriusAgnomefreak, yes as i told you, i changed it to the one madpilot posted03:54
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SiriusAgnomefreak, to check out, if this solve the problem03:54
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gnomefreakSiriusA: the one you showed me is nothing like madpilots list so if you opened /etc/apt/sources.list as i asked you too you would see the real sources list03:55
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SiriusAgnomefreak, uhm, we'r stuck on this one :) i took madpilots list, and pasted it in /etc/apt/sources.list03:56
SiriusAgnomefreak, the updated03:56
SiriusA*then03:56
irvs10tzguys, need help here.. i'm installing an x-ms-dos-executable software here.. i already downloaded wine but the set-up won't initiate... need help here....................03:56
bigmoeanyone knows how rdesktop is03:56
gnomefreakSiriusA: look for me too help you i would need to see it if you dont paste it to pastebin find someone else to help you under your conditions03:57
bigmoeused03:57
DarKSideScan we Partiton a drive Using LiveCd?03:57
sudharshirvs10tz: 16bit app??03:57
SiriusAgnomefreak, uhm, ok wait03:57
sudharshDarKSideS: better still download the gparted live cd03:57
zeedobigmoe: man rdesktop or run grdeskdtop or run tsclient03:57
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DarKSideSthat would be awwwesome, but i cant save it man,// idk how to mount my iPod03:58
slavik-ltI want to compile xsupplicant and it needs the cryptolibrary, what is the nameof the cryptolibrary?03:58
slavik-lt!xsupplicant03:58
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik-lt03:58
DarKSideS!mounting ipod03:59
ubotuDarKSideS: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:59
gnomefreak!mount03:59
ubotuI heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f03:59
sudharshDarKSideS: i do hav a mp3 player...it gets detected automaically..mounts itself in /media/usbdisk03:59
oskudeso, sent a rant email to novell :) asking why they removed "disable html rendering"03:59
DarKSideSi tried , Nothing.03:59
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oskudei doubt they answer, but i feel better :)03:59
sudharshDarKSideS: try 'mount /dev/sda1'03:59
SiriusAgnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/967703:59
slavik-ltI want to compile xsupplicant and it needs the crypto library, what is the name of the crypto library?03:59
sudharshwait a sec..else see if banshee helps03:59
DarKSideSwarty@ubuntu:~ $ sudo mount /dev/sda104:00
DarKSideSmount: you must specify the filesystem type04:00
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sudharshu did plug in ur ipod..didnt u04:00
gnomefreakSiriusA: the command is apt-get -f install  (no package name )04:00
bigmoecan i use rdesktop like program but without GUI04:01
sudharsh!ipod04:01
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto04:01
DarKSideSyea04:01
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gnomefreakjust use apt-get -f install04:01
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sudharshhey ubotu knows somethin..tried that wiki page?04:01
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MorgI found a fix for that Save As thing if anyone's interested.04:01
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slavik-ltubotu, tell meabout open1x04:01
bigmoezeedo: can i use rdesktop like program but without GUI04:02
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oskudei wonder if evolution2.4 also parses javascript...04:02
sudharshslavik-lt: ubotu is a bot :)04:02
sudharsh!openlx04:02
ubotusudharsh: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:02
filleokus_Hi, how stable is Ubuntu 6.04, is it worth getting instead of 5.0404:02
oskudefilleokus_, no.04:02
filleokus_im using arch now, and want to test ubuntu (again)04:02
filleokus_ok04:02
sudharshfilleokus_: not now..wait till april04:02
badzonyhow i can scan with nmap another network, i am 192.168.31.xxx and target is 10.194.31.xxx?04:02
bigmoeKubuntu is 6.0404:02
Morgme2win: You had that problem too, right?04:02
SiriusAgnomefreak, hmhm now he wants to DEINSTALL nvtv.... maybe because i tried before to install the pacakge via dpgk?04:03
gnomefreakfilleokus_: go with 5.1004:03
Mandible5.10 is very stable04:03
naliothbadzony: use nmapfe04:03
filleokus_oh ok 5.10 mybad04:03
Mandible6.04 will be stable in another month04:03
ompaulfilleokus_, please talk about that in #ubuntu+1 :-) 5.10 is the stabe version04:03
gnomefreakSiriusA: let it do what it needs to04:03
SiriusAgnomefreak, ok, its done04:03
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oskudehow long does hoary still have updates ?04:03
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gnomefreakSiriusA: now is nvtv in the repos?04:03
gnomefreakoskari: 18 months04:03
SiriusAhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/967804:03
oskari#ubuntu-fi04:03
ompauloskude, 18 months starting last april04:04
sudharshoskude: 18 months04:04
gnomefreakit will get updates until oct04:04
oskudethnx, maybe ill go back hoary..04:04
filleokus_Hmm, i386 is the way to go for amd64? i dont get that mouch extra power or, with amd64 version?04:04
badzonynmapfe command not found04:04
SiriusAgnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/967804:04
SiriusAgnomefreak, and thx for the help btw.04:04
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oskudehmm, or debian stable. it has still evolution lower than 2.4...04:05
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gnomefreakSiriusA: run the comand apt-cache search nvtv let me know if its in the repos04:05
SiriusAgnomefreak, no its not04:05
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M_A_KIs there a network profile switcher similar to quickswitch for Ubuntu?  I am not happy with the current methd of switching profiles.04:05
slavik-ltwhere do I get the crypto library?04:06
bigmoegnomefreak: is there a remote login program without the GUI04:06
gnomefreaki have nvtv in my repos :)04:06
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gnomefreakSiriusA: run apt-cache search nvtv04:06
Belea_i can make a firewall to let only a few programs to go..  not ports..  just programs ?04:06
SiriusAgnomefreak, i did.... no output04:06
gnomefreakbigmoe: i dont know04:06
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SiriusAgnomefreak, maybe there is no amd64 package?04:07
gnomefreak!info nvtv04:07
ubotunvtv: (Tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.4.7-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 948 kB04:07
slavik-lt!crypto04:07
ubotuslavik-lt: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:07
gnomefreakSiriusA: its in breezy04:07
ompauloskude,  edit preferences, and choose mail preferences and look at the tabs04:07
ompauloskude,  and I don't use that program04:07
luiteslavik-lt: libssl / libssl-dev04:07
_jasonSiriusA: you're right, only packages for 386 packages.ubuntu.com04:07
oskudeompaul, ?04:07
zax1my booting process hangs after  * checking battery state04:07
badzonynalioth: nampfe command not found04:07
gnomefreakgood reason than :)04:07
SiriusA:(04:08
gnomefreak_jason: what about chown it?04:08
_jasonSiriusA: although dapper seems to have amd64 packages04:08
naliothbadzony: spelling is a plus.  n m a p f e04:08
ompauloskude, you asked how to turn off html mail04:08
zax1i was following advice bout reconfiguring my xserver-corg, and now it does not boot at all04:08
slavik-ltty luite04:08
zax1can any one help with that ?04:08
SiriusA_jason, is there a way to compile it from sources?04:08
oskudeompaul, hmm, it works with evolution 2.4 ?04:08
_jasonSiriusA: probably04:08
badzonyyeah nmapfe04:08
SiriusAgnomefreak, chown means to run i386 packages on amd64?04:08
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naliothubotu: tell badzony about repos04:09
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naliothbadzony: enable your universe and multiverse repo04:09
Davey`SiriusA: no... it means to set the owner and optionally group of a file04:09
_jasonSiriusA: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3375804:09
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Davey`(or files)04:09
zax1uboto: tell zax1 how to flipping fix his computer!04:09
oskudeompaul, i didnt ask. i just didnt found the option anymore, and www said its removed in 2.4...04:09
gnomefreakSiriusA: its a command not sure what they do with it i dont run 64bit04:09
bigmoeis there a remote login program without the GUI04:09
gnomefreakbigmoe: as in ssh?04:09
ompauloskude, well www is not right for 5.10 version (2.4.1)04:10
NgSiriusA: I think you mean chroot04:10
zax1!tell  zax1 how to flipping fix his computer04:10
gnomefreakNg: thats my fault04:10
ompauloskude, where on www did you find that04:10
oskudeompaul, you mean there IS an option for it, where ?04:10
gnomefreakand yes chroot would be it04:10
SiriusA_jason, thx, theres the source04:10
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ompauloskude, I already told you one moment please04:10
ompauloskude,  edit preferences, and choose mail preferences and look at the tabs  <<-- there04:10
bigmoegnomefreak: i'll try it04:10
SiriusA_jason, but it says "architecture" = i386, can i build it?04:11
slavik-ltwhat package has yacc?04:11
zax1my booting process hangs after  * checking battery state  was following advice bout reconfiguring my xserver-corg, and now it does not boot at all, to top it all iam as green as they come and dont have a clue on how to sort any of it again04:11
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slavik-ltthere are 4 that synapticshows04:11
ompauloskude, where on www did you find that, this is wrong information and so should be changed04:11
_jasonSiriusA: where?04:11
naliothslavik-lt: install bison04:11
zax1is there a way to quickly REinstall it ? or fixInstall it ?04:11
slavik-ltnalioth: ty04:12
oskudeompaul, im searching where i found that.. and please show me where to disable html rendering04:12
_jasonSiriusA: oh I see, umm strange.  Maybe you should contact the person that built the amd64 pacakges, or grab the source for the dapper amd64 packages and take a look04:12
SiriusA_jason, ok thx alot04:12
oskudeompaul, http://www.nabble.com/2.4.2.1-and-html-mail-t1077578.html04:12
zax1help :'(04:13
ompauloskude, in mail preferences you can stop reading it, and in composer preferences you can stop yourself sending it04:14
SiriusA_jason, who is the roadmap for dapper? is there any release date?04:14
ompaul!dapper04:14
uboturumour has it, dapper is pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! >/join #ubuntu+1< for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates04:14
SiriusAubotu, thx :)04:14
ubotuSiriusA: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:14
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gnomefreakSiriusA: its ubotu thanks :)04:14
oskudeompaul, so i go where ? account - edit - ?04:14
gnomefreakbrb04:15
bigfoot1Using Soundconverter, the minimum bitrate i can make mp3s is 64. How can i get it lower (to save space)?04:15
oskudeompaul, i just cant find it... got a screen shot or so ?04:15
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oskudeompaul, are you just quessing or do you have evolution 2.4 there that has disable html ?04:16
ompauloskude,  edit preferences, mail preferences there is a tab with html that is one job, let me know when you find that04:17
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oskudeompaul, im in "HTML Mail"04:17
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oskudeompaul, im in "Mail Preferences" - "HTML Mail"04:18
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_usamaplz help me http://pastebin.com/58194204:18
ompaulnow if you don't want to sent html mail you don't have the second box checked04:18
ompauloskude,  now if you don't want to sent html mail you don't have the second box checked04:18
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oskudeompaul, hmm i ment RENDERING hmtl...04:18
oskudeompaul, i dont want to see those pix300 text spams...04:19
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mihai_i have installed the openssh-server and i've configured it for port 2000. ussualy i use ssh user@host to connect, but this takes by default port 22. what command should i use in order to create a succesful connection ?04:19
Kamping_Kaiserhow can i find out what's using my sound card?04:19
Kamping_Kaisermihai_: -p 200004:20
Kamping_Kaiserssh -p 2000 user@server04:20
gnomefreakthe wiki for xgl needs to be changed04:20
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gnomefreakKamping_Kaiser:  lspci should tell you the soundcard you have04:20
linuxboyfriendl04:20
Kamping_Kaisergnomefreak: I'm wondering whtas using it, not what it is :)04:21
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CarlFKis there an apt-get command to install the source of some package?04:21
Nebusalve a tutti, ho trovato questa stanza sul sito ubuntu.mondonerd.com , qualcuno  cos gentile da darmi qualche spiegazione su ubuntu, non ci capisco gran che e non riesco a installarlo sul pc04:21
ompauloskude, now I understand your question, as yet I don't have an answer04:21
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oskudeompaul, doh04:22
CarlFKNebu: /join #ubuntu-es ?04:22
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oskudeas i said its removed, and i cant think why...04:22
S0me1Kamping_Kaiser, lspci -v04:22
CarlFKKamping_Kaiser: lsof04:23
tritium_That's not Spanish.04:23
_jasonCarlFK: apt-get source04:23
NebucarlFK ok04:23
Kamping_KaiserCarlFK: tried that04:23
gnomefreaklooks it to me04:23
_jasonit maybe?04:23
S0me1Kamping_Kaiser, or dmeg04:23
gnomefreakIT04:23
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gnomefreakitalian*04:23
tritium_yes04:23
gnomefreak!it04:23
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:23
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gnomefreakoskude: put dell in there too they suck with support :(04:24
Nebuok ubot, grazie, scusate04:24
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baddersAfternoon all.04:24
oskari#suomi04:25
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zAo^lo badders04:25
oskari#windows04:25
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pulverhey! what do u have to type to compile gftp with ssl support? did a 'sudo apt-get source gftp'. what should the ./configure line be like?04:25
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oskudegnomefreak, but they books rock (disassebmbling with manuals) is like a charm (atleas latitude c800 and cp233)04:25
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navaneethhow to change resolution of login screen?04:26
gnomefreaki never seena  manual for my pc so i wouldnt know :(04:26
fek_moin04:26
gnomefreaknavaneeth: you change the imamge :( i havent found a way for res04:26
gnomefreakimage*04:26
pulverthe default ubuntu gftp dosen't have ssl support =/04:26
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tritium_pulver: it already has it.  Don't recompile it!04:26
S0me1navaneeth, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:26
CarlFK_jason: apt-get source - thanks04:27
S0me1navaneeth, and try gnome-display-properties04:27
pulvertritium_: it has? how do u activate it then?04:27
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gnomefreakS0me1: that will fix res in gnome not gdm04:28
tritium_pulver: you just use it04:28
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oskudelol? apt-cache search email client gives me 4 results...04:29
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gnomefreakalthough you might beable to open the config file for the gdm (if there is a seprate one) and edit it that way04:29
ompauloskude, no idea, but frankly as it is already on the machine at that stage why be worried about it?04:29
S0me1gnomefreak, thanks mate04:30
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oskudeompaul, ? cant compute04:30
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badderswhats peoples current solution for sharing certain folders (mozilla profile/documents whatever) across a few different machines (specifically 3 for me) with offline operation? I have a central server (4th machine) i can use, but the offline operation is vital. iFolder looks promising but looks a pita to set up04:30
gnomefreakS0me1: yw04:30
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ompauloskude, be better if the anti spam kit took it out and left it so you could not see it04:30
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bigfoot1i have a 128kbps mp3 file. how can i shrink it down to 32 kbps?04:30
dan_How do i get a bluetooth dongle to work?04:31
oskudeompaul, no thats not an option for me i WANT disabling html...04:31
ompauloskude, I use 5.10 with thunderbird, so that is not an issue for me it occurs as you want it04:31
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oskudeompaul, does thunderbird have disable html rendering ?04:31
pulvertritium_:  im trying to login using gftp (gui version) but it says that i have to use encryption then disconnects04:31
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tritium_pulver: are you selecting sftp as the protocol before you connect?04:32
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pulvertritium_: nope how do u do that :)04:33
ompauloskude, let me look, my spam trap tends to grab it all04:33
oskudeompaul, :)04:33
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oskudeompaul, i dont trust spam traps...04:33
tritium_pulver: there's a little drop-down in the upper right corner where you select the protocol04:33
oskudeompaul, and sometimes there are allso funny spams :)04:34
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oskudeompaul, to me its like commercials in tv, they amuse me...04:34
oskudealone the thought there are people who pay for that crap, lmao04:35
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pulvertritium_: oh i need glasses lol.. anyway i don't see sftp in it, well i did removed gftp before when messing around...04:36
oskudeompaul, dont need to search for the html thing in thunderbird, ill give it a try04:36
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tritium_pulver: it might list ssh rather than sftp04:36
blekoshi,04:37
zAo^who can help me with a dhcp-'problem' ?04:37
tarwinhey, whoa, I just installed Ubuntu and I'm really really impressed04:37
tarwinguess, I'll stick to it!04:37
zAo^in /etc/resolv.conf I get "search lan" as the first line, but I dont want this one :)04:37
oskudetarwin, welcome to the club :)04:37
tritium_rock on, tarwin :004:37
tritium_:)04:37
blekosopenoffice2 -last nigts update- is not running ok, in gnome, while in kde fine04:37
tarwinthis was so smooth and easy04:37
tarwinyears of SUSE are nearly forgotten ;)04:38
Feerxhow do i put a result of at command onto a variable in a shell script.. user="U_VAR" dosnt really work =)04:38
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tritium_Feerx: you can use `` or $().  e.g., sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) uses the command "uname -r"04:39
oskudeFeerx, this is ver usefull http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/04:40
gnomefreakwhy cant i find a testing tool for 3d :(04:40
pulvertritium_: ok.. ssh2 is there.. is that the one? selecting it says something about initiating protocol when trying to login and then the program hangs04:40
Feerxtritium_: dont really get that ether =) edit my command so V_VAR get the user name04:40
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tonyyarusso_workI need to extract one of four images from an animated gif and save it separately; can someone help me do that in Gimp?04:40
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Ngtonyyarusso_work: gimp loads animgifs such that each frame is a layer, simply copy the layer you want to a new image, or something like that04:41
tritium_pulver: yes, ssh2.  What do you know about the other end you're trying to connect to?04:41
vnratwhat's ur enviroiment04:41
vnratu r current04:41
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tonyyarusso_workNg: Okay, I'll see if I can manage that.04:41
ryancan I ask a technical question here?04:42
oskude!ask04:42
vnratk04:42
ryanI've got a problem with my printer04:42
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vnratand .. ?04:42
tonyyarusso_workNg: How do I isolate layers in the first place?04:42
JesterFredu04:42
ryanI tried to install the native hplip driver04:42
ryanand since then I can't print anymore04:42
tritium_Feerx: which command are you  using?04:42
ryanI'ts a hp psc 161004:43
ryanand I removed the hplip driver04:43
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tritium_Feerx: your user name should be stored in the env. var. USER04:43
ryanand reinstalled cupsys and some librarys04:43
Feerxtritium_: using date +%A  and want to ad it to D_VAR04:44
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ryanafter deleting the config files bud it didn't work04:44
JesterFredDoes the Ubuntu team produce any BIGMEM linux kernels for those of us with more then 2 Gig memory?  I do not see any in the normal repositories.04:44
oskuderyan, i got a HP psc1200, and i had to add it first in System - administration - printing, and for ooo2 i had to run "oopadmin2"04:44
SeerKan!find mc04:44
pulvertritium_: heh thats me too trying to run vsftpd with ssl and connect to it works fine with secureftp04:44
SeerKan!info mc04:44
ubotumc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB04:44
vnratso04:44
oskuderyan, but i didnt have to do anything in oopadmin2, it was there after i just launched that program...04:44
ryanI'ts there " System - administration - printing, " where it can't find it anymore04:44
tritium_pulver: ah, okay.04:44
vnrati want to install04:45
ryanand I reinstalled that, too04:45
SeerKana question ... apt-get install mc or apt-get install mc.1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 ?04:45
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oskuderyan, mine was not automaticly found neither (but in hoary it was:) so i had to add it manuall04:45
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tritium_Feerx: I do recommend you read the howto that oskude suggested04:45
ryanwell in the dialog is no recognized printer04:45
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ryanbut befor I could add it there04:46
ryan(before the hplip-thing)04:46
lesshasteanyone here speak polish?04:46
oskuderyan, i didnt have it neither in "recognized printer"04:46
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ryanwell, what should I choose?04:46
pulvertritium_: do you know any dependencies for gftp that i might have messed up that is needed for this to work?04:46
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ryannetwork-printer?04:46
SeerKana question ... apt-get install mc or apt-get install mc.1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 ?04:46
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tritium_pulver: it if installed, its dependencies were satisfied04:47
oskuderyan, local - use another ... port, usb - and then select the driver04:47
tonyyarusso_workNg: Okay, I was able to figure out how to drag the layers apart, but I can't seem to change the focus to the one I want so I can copy it.  Do you know?04:47
MannyI have to convert an rpm to a deb package. http://www.fship.com/demos/rpm2targz an do rpm ->tgz but it requires rpmoffset which I haven't installed04:47
ryanusb printer 1?04:47
SeerKani tryed sudo apt-get install mc and it tells me he can't find the Packaged04:47
ryantherre are 1 - 1604:48
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pulvertritium_: ok, well thanks for your help, its  a bit clearer to me now04:48
gnomefreakSeerKan: make sure you have universe enabled04:48
oskuderyan, i took usb104:48
Mannyis this the right route, i.e. compile http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware_source/a/bin/rpmoffset.c additionally?04:48
SeerKangnomefreak universe ?04:48
Telarian02Hello, I'm a linux newbie and ubuntu is my first distro, I have a linksys USB nic and everything i can find on the web says you have to unplug and plug it in to get it to work....anyone know how i can activate it at startup?04:48
SeerKanhow do i enable it ?04:48
gnomefreak!universe04:48
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:48
BurgermannHi. I really need some help installing Ubuntu. My CD-ROM drive is failing during the installation :S. I got so far that I could enter a mirror, but it seems it still want's to install from CD :(04:48
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tritium_pulver: not sure why it's not working for you...04:48
ryanIsn't working04:49
ryancan't even print a testpage04:49
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oskudeBurgermann, put a "#" before the line "cdrom:..." in /etc/apt/sources.list04:49
tonyyarusso_workBurgermann: Those sound like different problems...could you clarify?  Does the drive fail, or does it get confused and use the CD instead of the net connection?04:49
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oskuderyan, is your priner on, was there a right driver for you printer there ?04:49
ryanjup04:50
ryanas I sead04:50
ryanbefore it worked04:50
ryanwith the psc 1600 driver04:50
ryanand it was in the recognized printer field04:50
Fubmy sound has died04:50
Fubanyone has any idea what is wrong?04:50
dan_how to i send stuff to my phone with a bluetooth dongle?04:50
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Burgermanntonyyarusso_work. The drive fails, since it's an old laptop. I've downloaded a mirror but everytime I get to the step 'Install base system' in about 30-70% it fails. :( If I could only install through the internet instead of CD04:51
SeerKangnomefreak how can i verify if i have or not universe ?04:51
oskuderyan, hmm, did you allready reboot, or reconnect the printer...04:51
Telarian02Can anyone help with the usb wireless nic?04:51
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ryanyes, more than once04:51
Burgermanntonyyarusso_work: I was hoping there was a way to use the CD for boot, but install from the internet04:51
ryanand the hp-info tool recognizes him04:51
oskudeBurgermann, i hope theres an option somewhere to test that the cd is okay...04:51
ryanthe printer04:51
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Burgermannoskude: I don't think my drive can read the entire CD04:52
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ryanwithout problems04:52
oskuderyan, hmm, i have a fresh breezy installation and i just had to add the printer, worked (didnt install any extra packages)04:52
christian_hooooooooooooollla04:52
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gabrielmacedo___hey.. myt Breezy dont open the lan ports.. i just use the 80.. the IM programs running but dont conect...04:52
ryanWell, for me it worked at the beginning too04:52
Mattiaragazzi salve04:52
Burgermannoskude: Hmn. Now it says that the file ./.disk/base_components had a wrong md5 check sum :S04:53
DarKSideS:(04:53
ryanuntil I tried something out04:53
Mattiaavrei un problema chi mi aiuta fentilmente?04:53
ryanwith hplip04:53
oskudeBurgermann, so maybe there went something wrong in download or burn process..04:53
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christian_why?????04:53
DarKSideSppl ANYWAY to connect my iPod04:53
Telarian02burgermann: i had to boot on my primary cdrom but it wouldn't install so i had a second cd in slave and installed off of that04:53
DarKSideS??04:53
tonyyarusso_workBurgermann: Hmm.  I know of places to point you to for entirely CD free install, I wonder if they would help?04:53
gabrielmacedo___hey.. myt Breezy dont open the lan ports.. i just use the 80.. the IM programs running but dont conect... How i correct this? i dont install firewalls..04:53
tritium_!ipod04:53
oskudeis there a NETINSTALL cd for ubuntu  ? (like debian has)04:53
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto04:53
Burgermanntonyyarusso_work: that would be nice :)04:53
tonyyarusso_workoskude: I don't think so specifically, but there's some information...04:54
tonyyarusso_work!networkinstall04:54
ubotuInstall without a cdrom, recommended for people with broadband https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot04:54
ryanIs there another way to configure cups with ubuntu04:54
ryan?04:54
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oskudenetboot is too much hassle for me (as i never did that)04:54
tritium_ryan: the gnome print tool04:54
SeerKanhow can i verify if i have or not universe ?04:54
oskudelove that debian 50mb businesscard iso image...04:54
tonyyarusso_workBurgermann: It's gotta be possible, I'm just not quite sure how.04:54
ryanThe gnome-print-tool isn't working04:55
ryananymore04:55
tritium_what happened to it?04:55
DarKSideSis there anything i can do to better my Situation?04:55
ryanwell04:55
Burgermanntonyyarusso_work: thx for the tip. I'll try and figure it out :)04:55
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Telarian02I'm still looking for help with a linksys USB wireless nic card???04:55
LjLoskude: yeah, me too. but i haven't found anything like that for ubuntu04:55
ryanI compiled hplip04:55
ryanand installed it04:55
oskudeLjL, roger04:55
SeerKanhow can i verify if i have or not universe please?04:55
ryanbut it dind't work04:55
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Nermallo lo04:56
ryanand now it doesn't recognize the printer anymore04:56
Nermallo lo :)04:56
oskudeSeerKan, look in /etc/apt/sources.list04:56
ryaneven though i reinstalled cupsys and some other print-related tools04:56
LjLSeerKan: try "apt-cache show outguess", if it does show a package and doesn't say "not found", you have it04:56
ryanafter uninstalling the hplip04:56
LjLSeerKan: (that's just a random package from universe i happen to be looking at right now)04:56
oskudeSeerKan, or you should allso see it while doing apt-get update04:56
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ryanbut the hp-tools (hp-info, hp-levels) recognize the printer04:57
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linuxboyfriendplz help me http://pastebin.com/58194204:58
LjLhow come that, when i try to connect to jabber.org (using Kopete, SSL mode), it complains that the certificate is invalid? from what i've been able to google, the certifying authority for jabber.org *is* listed in my KDE Crypto settings04:58
ardchoilleA friend gave me a webcam. What can I do with it? Which apps work with it?04:58
S0me1linuxboyfriend, try !04:59
ardchoillenever had a web cam before04:59
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LjLlinuxboyfriend: try "sudo aptitude install x-window-system-dev"04:59
gnomefreak!webcam04:59
ubotuwebcam is, like, totally, now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.04:59
ardchoillegnomefreak: thanks :)04:59
gnomefreakyw04:59
oskudeomg, aptitude04:59
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Telarian02still needing advice on USB wifi nic???05:00
funkyHatoskude, is that ok? :P05:00
gnomefreakhow can i test the 3d accel it seems low to me is there something i can view in 3d that 2d wont allow you to view?05:00
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ryanit's a hp psc 161005:00
ryanusb05:00
oskudei use allways apt-get...05:00
funkyHatgnomefreak, glxgears05:01
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tritium_aptitude has some nice advantages05:01
LjLoskude: then i suggest you give aptitude a chance.05:01
ProfichillaHow can I change the OSS default sound device?05:01
gnomefreakfunkyHat: 2d can view them05:01
DarKSideSiPod working on unbuntu live cd?05:01
DarKSideS!ubuntu05:01
ubotusomebody said ubuntu was an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.05:01
linuxboyfriendLjL: is that OK http://pastebin.com/58201605:01
funkyHatgnomefreak, 3ddesk05:01
gnomefreakmy fps is around 2000 it seems low05:01
oskudedont want to start a flamewar, i use apt-get.05:01
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funkyHatI use apt-get because it's easier to type05:02
oskudeapt-get worked for allways, so i dont need anything else...05:02
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hantargaim-vv  and gaim are compatible?05:02
oskude+me05:02
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LjLlinuxboyfriend: no, it doesn't seem very right. does "apt-cache policy x-window-system-dev" show anything under "Installed:" ?05:02
M_A_KDoes anybody know of a good graphical system tray network profile switcher for ubuntu?05:03
oskudeand aptitude is an frontend for apt-get anyway...05:03
LjLfunkyHat: i use "apt" because it's even easier ;)05:03
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gnomefreakok installing now ty funkyHat05:03
tritium_oskude: yes, but it can do things apt-get can't05:03
LjLoskude: aptitude is not a frontend for apt-get05:03
gnomefreakaptitude is supposed to handle depends better05:03
oskudeand has more places for failures...05:03
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oskudeLjL, it uses also apt-cache ?05:04
oskudeapt-cache show aptitude...05:04
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LjLoskude: aptitude uses neither apt-get nor apt-cache afaik05:04
linuxboyfriendLjL: http://pastebin.com/58202405:04
oskudeas i said i dont want a flamewar, anyone whould use what he wants...05:04
tritium_of course, oskude05:05
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LjLoskude: of course. just remember that aptitude is *not* a front-end to apt-get, that's just false05:05
BSDinuxaint aptitude just a gui for apt-get?05:05
LjLBSDinux: no.05:05
linuxboyfriendLjL: I am trying to solve this for the last two hours :(05:05
oskude"aptitude is a terminal-based apt frontend"05:05
LjL!tell BSDinux about aptitude05:05
BSDinuxlol05:05
gnomefreakok now i have 3ddesktop installed how to i use it?05:05
LjLlinuxboyfriend: what program are you trying to compile?05:05
funkyHatapt != apt-get05:05
tritium_no, BSDinux.  aptitude keeps track of what dependencies a package pulls in, and removes those dependencies if the package gets removed.  atp-get can't do that05:05
oskude!frontend05:05
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, oskude05:05
linuxboyfriendLjL: its one of my economics related software05:06
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BSDinuxok05:06
smoalnehello05:06
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ShedPlantHi all :)05:06
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BSDinuxi use synaptic if i dont apt-get05:06
tinushi05:06
linuxboyfriendLjL: now! do you have any idea whats going wrong?05:06
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tinusi need some help05:06
tinusi just got my ubuntu live cd05:06
oskudebtw. does aptitude allso want to remove myslq when trying to remove exim4 ?05:06
tinusand i would like to access my fat32 partition05:07
LjLoskude: anyway, it's not that apt-get has anything wrong. it's just that if you install something like, say, x-window-system-dev, which installs a ton of dependencies and which is likely to be removed later, apt-get becomes a mess -- since removing it will involve manually removing every package05:07
funkyHattinus,05:07
funkyHat!ask05:07
tinushow do i do this?05:07
BSDinuxyou have to mount it vfat05:07
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funkyHat!ast05:07
ubotufunkyHat: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:07
funkyHatgah05:07
funkyHat!ask05:07
smoalnecould someone pls tell me what a good c++ compiler package is for linux05:07
ShigutsoCan anyone help me? I am new in Linux and in Ubuntu, and I have some doubts... anyone??05:07
LjLlinuxboyfriend: no. the configure is complaining about missing X headers, but if you have x-window-system-dev installed (which you do), you have the headers05:07
tinushow do i mount it vfat ?05:07
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BSDinuxcreate a folder, example mkdir /mnt/fatdisk05:07
LjLsmoalne: g++05:07
dan_how to i send stuff to my phone with a bluetooth dongle?05:07
LjLsmoalne: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"05:07
smoalneshigutso: what's happening05:07
ShedPlanttinus, if you click on the Rubber Ring at the top of the desktop, that'll bring you to Help.05:07
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BSDinuxthen: mount -t vfat /dev/yourdisk# /mnt/fatdisk05:07
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funkyHat!ntfs05:08
ubotuI guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:08
ShedPlantThere are instructions on mounting fat partitions in the Starter Guide.05:08
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linuxboyfriendLjL: then how can I tell configure script about that?05:08
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smoalneLjL: what's the name of the program itself ? essential05:08
clearscreenmy Acer 5023WMLI laptop just doesnt properly installs my Wireless network card.. I have tried acer-hk + ndiswrapper with the bcmwl5.inf drivers(also the bcmwl5a.inf driver), which is supposed to install it on wlan0.. however, ubuntu detected it on install as eth0 but even though I power it up in the networking screen, it does not connect to my AP, there's no sign of the wlan0 adapter that supposedly had to be installed by ndiswrap05:08
Shigutsosmoalne, i don't know how to upgrade my Firefox, or any program, because I am not the root05:08
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clearscreenlol that's a long message05:08
tinusit says permission denied05:08
dan_how to i send stuff to my phone with a bluetooth dongle?05:08
BSDinuxyou need root access05:08
BSDinuxuse sudo05:08
tinusyes05:08
BSDinuxsudo mount05:08
smoalneroot is not set when you first start up05:08
tinusbut i don't know the password05:08
tritium_clearscreen: but we appreciate that you did it all in one line, rather than hitting enter 400 times05:08
BSDinuxoh05:09
LjLsmoalne: build-essential is a package that will install GCC (C compiler), G++, make and other things needed for most compiling05:09
trappisttinus: it's your password.05:09
smoalnedo sudo passwd root05:09
gnomefreaktinus: your user password when you use sudo05:09
yuri_hi people. I'd like to change my default fm from nautilus to konqueror. I already have kong installed05:09
Shigutsoin terminal?05:09
yuri_konq*05:09
trappistsmoalne: that defeats the whole purpose of ubuntu's sudo setup.05:09
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smoalneLjL: oh ! I was looking for a front end ?05:09
btdownyuri_ You want to change *to* Konqueror???05:09
trappistsmoalne: an ide?05:09
LjLlinuxboyfriend: it really depends on the program...05:09
yuri_yes05:09
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LjLsmoalne: but you did ask for a C++ compiler ;)05:09
DarKSideSANYWAY that i can save under Live CD?05:09
LjLsmoalne: try anjuta perhaps05:09
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smoalneTrue .. lol05:09
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Shigutsosmoalne, Ok, I changed the password... and now? May I have to login using root?05:10
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elenitahola a todos ;-)05:10
btdownyuri_ sorry...cant help you, but usually people get rid of Konq..not the other way around...05:10
tinusi changed my password but it still says that access denied when i try to mount the fat partition05:10
BSDinuxanjuta is nice.. but i always get back using the text editor and the terminal05:10
smoalneI'm just used to it, and wanted to ease the transition between using a text editor and a compiler05:10
ShedPlantWhat's wrong with Konquerer?05:10
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LjLbtdown: do they?05:10
tritium_smoalne: they're 2 different beasts05:11
linuxboyfriendLjL: ok leave it, i wanna ask one more thank, I was thinking that whethe it is possible to install kde-3.5 via apt05:11
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LjLlinuxboyfriend: yes it is, see kubuntu.org for the repositories05:11
BSDinuxwhy don't you simply instal kubuntu05:11
btdownLJL heck thats the only reason a lot of people dont use KDE.05:11
yuri_so... how do i make konq default?05:11
linuxboyfriendLjL: ok thanks05:11
LjLBSDinux: 'cause it doesn't include kde 3.5 ;)05:11
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gnomefreakbrb05:11
cppnewbiehello again05:12
LjLbtdown: oh well.05:12
ShedPlantyuri_, isn't there an application preferences somewhere in the System menu?05:12
tinuswell, first i would like to see how it works05:12
ShigutsoHow do I install an application using the terminal? What is the command?05:12
tinusi have little linux experience05:12
LjL!tell Shigutso about shortapt05:12
tinusbut i want to get on top of it05:12
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cppnewbiecan someone tell me how i can exit to the command console alone? tried installing the nvidia/nforce drivers and it tells me i need to exit X05:12
LjLlinuxboyfriend: if the program you're compiling is open-source and all, i can try it here.05:12
oskudeShigutso, sudo apt-get install name-of-the-package05:12
ShigutsoLjL, "shortapt 'name of the file'" ??05:12
DarKSideSsigh05:13
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LjLcppnewbie: try ctrl+alt+backspace, it will restart X05:13
DarKSideSANY WAY WATSOEVER05:13
LjLShigutso: no05:13
DarKSideSa terminal command?05:13
DarKSideSanything?05:13
BSDinuxtinus, hod do your commands look like?05:13
LjLShigutso: read the message ubotu sent you05:13
BSDinuxhow05:13
Shigutsook... thx05:13
cppnewbiethanx ljl will do05:13
yuri_ShedPlant: yes, but it does not have a tab for fm, only for terminal, mail and browser05:13
oskudeShigutso, to search you can do "apt-cache search some thing to search"05:13
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ShedPlantOh ok.05:13
Shigutsohmmm thanks oskude05:13
tinuswhat do u mean how do they look like ?05:14
BSDinuxwhat did you enter in the command line?05:14
oskudeShigutso, and for seeing specific package do "apt-cache show name-of-the-package"05:14
tinustheymkdir / mnt/fatdisk05:14
tinusas u said05:14
_jasonDarKSideS: did the wiki suggestions not work?05:14
LjLoskude, that's all explained in the Ubotu factoid i sent you, don't worry05:14
LjLyou = him05:14
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BSDinuxsudo mkdir /mnt/fatdisk05:14
tinusdid i mistype it ?05:14
tinusoh05:14
tinusok05:14
BSDinuxwhenever you need root access but are not logged in as root you can use sudo05:15
tinuswell i did it05:15
oskudeLjL, i assume with "aptitude" ;)05:15
BSDinuxk, now you have to mount the disk05:15
tinusand it didn't say anything05:15
tinushow ?05:15
ShedPlantMaybe it worked, tinus ;)05:15
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LjLoskude: as i have written that factoid, yeah05:15
baghi all05:15
bagAnyone knows where to find the spezific ubuntu patches? Such as the new logout menu?05:15
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BSDinuxfind out the name of the disk. do you use parallel or serial harddisks?05:15
dan_how to i send stuff to my phone with a bluetooth dongle?05:15
tinusparallel05:15
gnomefreakompaul:  you here still?05:16
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LjLoskude: though only for installing. i do suggest "apt-cache search" and "apt-cache show" for the rest05:16
BSDinuxis it partitioned?05:16
Dr_Willisdan_,  i ended up using the KDE bluetooth tools.05:16
tinusyes05:16
tinusi have 3 partitions05:16
tinus1st is ntfs05:16
ompaulgnomefreak, according to rumour anyway05:16
BSDinuxok05:16
tinussecond is fat 3205:16
BSDinuxone harddisk?05:16
tinusand 3rd is ntfs05:16
DarKSideSsomeone plz help me05:16
tinusyes05:16
tinusone05:16
ompaulgnomefreak, sup ?05:16
tritium_!tell tinus about enter05:16
_jasonDarKSideS: I've given you the wiki page, did that not work?05:16
BSDinuxok, in that case your fat partition should be hda105:16
tinus!enter05:16
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!05:16
gnomefreakompaul: im on the wiki for xgl and they tell you to install mesa well mesa is not a package who would know what it should be and beable to edit it?05:17
tinusok05:17
ShigutsoWhen I execute the command "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox", Linux installs the version 1.0.7. Doesn't he know that there is already the version 1.5.0.1 ??? How can I install the newer version??05:17
tinusso i type /dev/hda1/mnt   ?05:17
LjL!tell Shigutso about firefox1.505:17
gnomefreaki asked on #xgl-ubuntu and he didnt know who could edit it05:17
DarKSideSno05:17
BSDinuxtype: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /mnt/fatdisk05:17
LjLShigutso: also, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc05:17
DarKSideSI did everything there.05:17
DarKSideSi added a folder named ipod05:17
DarKSideSI added the line it said05:17
DarKSideSand nothing,05:17
ompaulgnomefreak, not doing xgl yet staying in 5.10 mostly for this channel to check stuff, anyone should be able to05:18
ShigutsoLjL, ok... I will try :/05:18
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dan_Dr_Willis - how to i acces that software?05:18
ompaulgnomefreak, sudo apt-cache search mesa<<-- I would start looking there05:18
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tinusi hope i won't lose any data05:18
LjLompaul: i would start by not using sudo in front of apt-cache ;P05:18
ompaulgnomefreak, yeap I know it does not need sudo05:18
Dr_Willisdan_,  i searched for bluetooth in the synaptic program, and installed anything that looked good. :P05:18
BSDinuxyou wont05:18
gnomefreakompaul: there are a bunch of mesa packages none of them just mesa05:19
LjLompaul: yeah, i know you do, just picking on you :)05:19
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ompaulLjL, a fair point and wwell made05:19
dan_Dr_Willis - i installed what you said, but how do i access the programme?05:19
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smoalneshigutso: yeah you should be all set05:19
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ompaulgnomefreak, the number may have changed but something like this apt-cache search mesa05:20
BSDinuxfat is well supported, tinus, no worries05:20
DarKSideSanything left to do?05:20
ompaulgnomefreak, doh05:20
Dr_Willisdan_,  could check the menus, or run the programs from the shell - if no icons.05:20
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Shigutsosmoalne, so I can now login with Root?05:20
ompaulgnomefreak, libgl1-mesa05:20
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ompaul!tell Shigutso abou root05:20
LjLShigutso: why do you need to login as root?05:20
ShigutsoLjL, because I can't do anything without the root05:21
ompaulShigutso, have a look at the page that the bot sent you, we don't need root here05:21
Shigutsosee05:21
DarKSideS...?05:21
trappistspeaking of libgl1-mesa, I can't seem to convince Xgl/compiz to use it.  judging by the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing error, it's using the nvidia gl libs05:21
DarKSideS..>?05:21
LjLShigutso: that's strange, i can do everything i like without root05:21
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LjLShigutso: do you know about sudo?05:21
gnomefreakthats my point there is no mesa verison its gonna be something like mesa-common-dev or mesa-utils05:21
ompaul!tell Shigutso about root05:21
ShigutsoI used Samba to share my folder with the other computer that uses Windows05:21
Dr_Willis!bluetooth05:21
ubotusomebody said bluetooth was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup05:21
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Shigutsobut when I try to acess the shared folder05:21
Shigutsoi need a password05:21
ompaulShigutso, I have not used root and I keep my box up to date05:21
Zag0R!smb05:22
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Zag0R05:22
ubuntuchatche05:22
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LjLShigutso: (what shared folder?) that's probably your *user* password it's asking you05:22
Shigutsobut how can i know the password, if i didn't do anything?05:22
LjLShigutso: if you have enabled root, you're now likely to have some problems05:22
Dr_WillisShigutso,  use 'sudo smbpasswd -a LinuxUserName' and set up a password for your linux user.05:22
Shigutsono... i tried my username and password05:22
Dr_WillisShigutso,  that will allow access to their home dir.05:22
Dr_WillisShigutso,  its  a SEPERATE password.. you need to create it.05:22
trappistompaul: any advice on GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing when I run compiz?05:22
LjLShigutso: oh... if it's a Samba issue, then it has nothing at all to do with root. follow Dr_Willis's advice05:22
Dr_WillisShigutso,  it dose not have to be the same as theior login password.05:22
gnomefreaknm let me try this :(05:23
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DarKSideSLjL, can you at all help me?05:23
Shigutsohmmm...05:23
LjLDarKSideS: what's the problem?05:23
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Shigutsobut i tried everything05:23
Shigutsoand i can't acess the folder05:23
Shigutsobut I created the share05:23
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Dr_WillisShigutso,  so you ran the command ---> 'sudo smbpasswd -a LinuxUserName'   allready then?05:24
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DarKSideSI want to be able to save on my iPod, problem is, im running ubuntu on Live cd.05:24
Shigutsoand it says the who created the share was the root05:24
Shigutsobut i am not the root...05:24
DarKSideSso i cant really save anything on my HD05:24
Dr_Willis!samba05:24
ubotuhmm... samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently05:24
BSDinuxwhat filesystem?05:24
gnomefreaki miss read it :(05:24
Shigutsook, i will try this command05:24
paolobHi guys. I want to change the applications menu for all users, http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/ says me to do "http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/", but it doesn't work in breezy. How do I do it? thank you!05:24
LjLDarKSideS: look in the /media directory, there should be links to all your HD partitions05:24
DarKSideSand i need to save some files on my ipod to fix my Windows. and Install ubuntu05:24
smoalneLjL: so there isn't any really good front end to use ? I should just use a text editor ?05:24
Dr_WillisShigutso,  samba is a very complex, and powerfill system. :P its also got a lot of 'defaults' set to be as secure as it can be.05:24
LjLDarKSideS: though i'm not really at all experienced with the live cd05:24
BSDinuxdarksides, what filesystem do you have on your HD? ntfs or fat32?05:24
LjLsmoalne: is anjuta bad?05:25
Shigutsohmmm i think i get it05:25
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BSDinuxanjuta is a bit limiting05:25
Shigutsoi will try to acess the folder now05:25
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ompaultrappist, not a clue05:25
Shigutsobrb :)05:25
DarKSideSntfs05:25
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DarKSideSi tried saving to my windows05:25
tritium_smoalne: you could look into eclipse, perhaps05:25
DarKSideSi obviously cant05:25
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LjLDarKSideS: indeed, you cannot write to NTFS under linux05:25
BSDinuxhmm.. writing on ntfs is possible but not really supported...05:26
yggworkgood morning can somone help me, i have an smb share that i can mount and write to find from windows but when i mount it in linux i can only write to it as root. //olya/storeage /mnt/storeage   smbfs   rw,username=yggdrasil,password=password,uid=000,user 0 0 sorry to be a bother ive read the man page and tried different stuff05:26
BSDinuxyou need to install the ntfs tools05:26
froudis there an ubuntu.com URL where version 4.10 can still be downlaoded?05:26
oskude!ntfs05:26
ubotumethinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:26
DarKSideSi wish i could05:26
DarKSideSbut that would involve downloading05:26
DarKSideSand i cant save.05:26
oskudei want the word "evil" back in ntfs :)05:26
tritium_!tell DarKSideS about enter05:26
LjLDarKSideS: you *can* install programs05:26
BSDinuxthe live cd has a virtual disk05:26
BSDinuxshould be possible05:26
GutterPunk!xgl05:26
tinusyes05:26
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/05:26
ShedPlantYeah, you can install stuff as long as you don't reboot.05:26
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DarKSideSOk. so let me go ahead and install that05:27
cppnewbie:'(05:27
LjLDarKSideS: writing to NTFS is extremely unsafe. be aware that you could destroy your data.05:27
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DarKSideSAwwww damn05:27
DarKSideSI mean05:27
DarKSideSNothing wrong with that05:27
DarKSideSI mean05:27
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cppnewbieljl i still get the message that im running an x server even when i go to failsafe terminal05:27
paolobHi guys! How do I modify the gnome menu for all users? thank you!05:27
DarKSideSI formatted my Pc last Night05:27
DarKSideSsooooo05:28
DarKSideSno biggie05:28
tritium_DarKSideS: please read what ubotu sent you about "enter"05:28
LjLcppnewbie: then try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" (or "kdm" if you're not using gdm).  later, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" will restart X05:28
BSDinuxyou want to recover files from a formatted disk?05:28
cppnewbieaha! thanx lemme c05:28
DarKSideSunderstood,sorry,it wont happen anymore.05:28
tritium_cppnewbie: you can also use "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop", etc.05:28
cppnewbieaha05:29
cppnewbiesounds smaller :D05:29
tritium_no worries, DarKSideS.  Thanks :)05:29
froudI need to obtain a copy of 4.10 to support FreedomToaster.org, is there a URL at ubuntu.com where I can still get  hthe ISO?05:29
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ShigutsoDr_Willis, THANK YOU SO MUCH.. it worked :D05:29
BSDinuxwell, if it's really important data, you should find some tools to recover them05:29
tritium_froud: cdimage.ubuntu.com should still have it05:29
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smoalneactually, nevermind ... pico is pretty easy to use, I'll just have to get used to not being spoon fed when working with objects05:30
DarKSideSseee I added this line to /ets/fstab/05:30
DarKSideS/dev/sda1               /mnt/ipod               auto    noauto,user,rw 0 005:30
froudtritium: thanks05:30
ShedPlantSurely /etc/fstab05:30
DarKSideSsorry. did i just use "enter" again?05:30
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DarKSideSyea.05:31
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ShedPlantBtw is anyone using TwinView here?05:31
BSDinuxtry installing ntfsprogs... you probably could recover some lost data05:31
tritium_ShedPlant: I have in the past.05:31
Dr_WillisShedPlant,  i have in the past also. :P05:32
DarKSideSwould this be the ipod??......     /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 auto noauto,users,exec,umask=000,uid=warty 0 005:32
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Dr_Willisshedi,  oddly seems that under dapper - it quit working for me.. not sure what the deal is.05:32
ShedPlantI can't test my settings atm, because I'm at work, but maybe later I'll need some help with it.05:32
BSDinuxsda1 should be your serial harddisk05:32
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LjLDarKSideS: "uid=warty"? you're using warty?05:32
DarKSideSyea.05:32
DarKSideSlive cd.05:32
LjLerr... it's *sort of* old05:32
DarKSideSYup05:33
DarKSideSLoL.05:33
BSDinuxlol05:33
DarKSideSI was an Ubunto fan, back like almost a yr ago?05:33
DarKSideSubuntu.05:33
ShedPlantX recognises the extra space, but the monitor doesn't turn on. I think I need to configure my "ConnectedMonitor" option better.05:33
yggworkgood morning can somone help me, i have an smb share that i can mount and write to find from windows but when i mount it in linux i can only write to it as root. //olya/storeage /mnt/storeage   smbfs   rw,username=yggdrasil,password=password,uid=000,user 0 0 sorry to be a bother ive read the man page and tried different stuff05:33
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DarKSideSso i stil l have the cd's i requested.05:34
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BSDinuxshedplant, i don't use twinview, but i used cinerama for a while05:35
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BSDinuxor at least option "clone"05:35
ShedPlanttritium, Dr_Willis, were the monitors you were using identical?05:35
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Dr_WillisShedPlant,  i used a LCD and the TV out.. so No. :P05:35
BSDinuxyou need 2 device, 2 monitor and 2 screen sections05:36
BSDinuxand a serverlayout section05:36
cyorxamp__Hi I am using xubuntu and as a result on a new installing I don't think I get archive manager - so can someone name a few good 'zip' type programs (one like WinRAR would be great) ??05:36
DarKSideSsoooooooooooo,, i guess there's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING i can do05:36
tritium_ShedPlant: nope.  A laptop LCD, and either TV out, or an external CRT or projector05:36
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Dr_Willisyggwork,  the 'using samba' book is aviliable online. and is well worth reading if you are going to use samba a great deal.05:36
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tritium_ShedPlant: you read the docs under /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx?05:36
ShedPlantAre you sure, BSDinux? I don't think you do for Twinview, but then, I can't get it to work.05:36
BSDinuxdarksides, install ntfsprogs05:36
kemikCyorxamp: unrar-nonfree05:36
kemikCyorxamp: in univ/multiverse i think05:36
ShedPlantI'll have a look at those, tritium, thanks.05:36
cyorxamp__kemik, and it deals with practivally everything? and a nice GUI ?05:37
BSDinuxnot "twinview", but dual screen anyway05:37
kemikCyorxamp: no it's CLI...05:37
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DarKSideS!ntfsprogs05:37
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DarKSideS05:37
DarKSideSBSDinux,  where would i get it..?05:37
yggworkok05:38
yggworkthanks05:38
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cyorxamp__nah that's poo, need an 'archive' type program that can deal with practically everything and a nice GUI - any more ideas?05:38
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kemikcyorxamp__: the one that goes with ubuntu... or does it depend on too much gnomestuff ?05:38
BSDinuxdakr, use apt-get ntfsprogs05:38
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ajithhello..can anyone plz tell me how to install 3d driver for cle266 in ubuntu5.1005:38
cyorxamp__kemik, well I have xchat, firefox etc... and xfce is GTK 2... so I suppose05:38
tritium_ajith: which video chip?05:39
cyorxamp__but can no one think of others (i like choice :P)05:39
oskari#fin05:39
ajithtritium:- via CLE26605:39
kemikcyorxamp__: wine+winrar :P05:39
oskudecyorxamp__, how about asking apt-cache and googling...05:39
cyorxamp__hehe05:39
alolexdoes ubuntu use a sort of "control panel" like windows osx or suse so you can control your hardware?05:39
cyorxamp__oskude, this is one of those questions I find difficult to word05:39
cyorxamp__alolex, good question... any one know?05:40
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oskudecyorxamp__, apt-cache search zip05:40
succubus__what would be the best way to go about installing php05:40
BSDinuxuse synaptic05:40
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oskudecyorxamp__, and then googling for the progs you found to see if they a pretty enough...05:40
stockholmhow can i install packages during d-i run?05:40
jcolenon-linux question... i'm trying to figure out the name of an animated movie where the plot is a girl trying to get a formula, for doscile human hybrid species to reproduce so they won't die... i think they wear a bracelet or something that keeps them alive...05:40
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_filip__Is it possibel to add a package so it be installed when installing Ubuntu?05:40
DarKSideSapt-get ntfsprogs05:41
stockholmi need to load the madwifi module before network autodetection can work05:41
DarKSideSI got an error05:41
DarKSideSwarty@ubuntu:~ $ sudo apt-get ntfsprogs05:41
DarKSideSE: Invalid operation ntfsprogs05:41
DarKSideSwarty@ubuntu:~ $05:41
DarKSideSwarty@ubuntu:~ $05:41
kemikjcole: wrong channel05:41
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BSDinuxapt-get install ntfsprogs05:41
kemikDarKSideS: install05:41
geniusvicksI always have to sudo to access the other drives on my harddisk05:41
kemikDarKSideS: and dont paste multiple lines in here, it's called 'spamming'05:41
geniusvickshow do I do it without using sudo05:41
alolexuse su?05:41
jcolekemik: what if i want to rent it and watch it on ubuntu? ;)05:41
alolexlogin as root?05:41
kemikgeniusvicks: mount with umask or  uid05:41
BSDinuxgenius, change the owner05:42
ajithtritium:- ubuntu finds the video card as unichrome  (via) cle 266 but there is no 3d support05:42
geniusvickshow to change the owner05:42
kemikjcole: i guess that's ok then... uhm05:42
BSDinuxin fstab using the user= or uid=05:42
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DarKSideSanoter error05:42
BSDinuxor if it's just temporary use chown05:42
DarKSideSanother*05:42
kemikDarKSideS: prefix with "sudo"05:42
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ShigutsoHow can I configure my "Start Button", like program locations, etc?05:43
geniusvicksalso I'm planning to buy a video accelerater card'05:43
geniusvicksWill any card work in Linux05:43
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BSDinuxdarksides, you should have installed linux a year ago using extfs and you wouldn't ahve a problem at all recovering files...05:43
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oskudegeniusvicks, i got radeon, works. but im gonnay buy nvidia (because of a particular software)05:44
BSDinuxgenius, nvidia is best05:44
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gnomefreaknvidia are good cards most are supported on ubuntu most are auto detected too05:44
setuidHow do I know if I'm running Breezy or 5.10?05:44
gnomefreaksetuid: lsb_release -a05:44
bas_Does anybody know if there are any sources for apt for Drapper flight?05:44
setuidRelease:        5.1005:44
setuidCodename:       breezy05:44
bas_i am having trouble to install certain packages05:44
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setuidhrm... so they're the same. I wonder why ATI considers them different.05:44
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gnomefreaksetuid: what do you mean?05:45
geniusvicksbut I have to consider my budget05:45
setuidgnomefreak: ATI's driver installer05:45
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bas_setuid: uname -a05:45
setuidgnomefreak: It wants me to choose one or the other05:45
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stockholmwhat are the package management tools during d-i run? dpkg and apt-get are not yet there. does apt-install work?05:45
setuidbas_: nope, that doesn't do it05:45
gnomefreakchoose breezy05:45
ShigutsoHow do I configure the "Applications" Menu???05:45
setuidgnomefreak: right05:45
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gnomefreakbas_: that just gives you the kernel version05:45
cppnewbiehey again, when i apt-get i get an error about something with "/var/lib/apt/lists/lock"05:45
gnomefreak!version05:45
ubotuversion is, like, totally, to check version of Ubuntu use lsb_release -a05:45
oskudestockholm, if the package is not in cd, and you dont yet have net. its not gonna work05:45
geniusvicksI have only Rs.4000 which is about $8005:45
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stockholmcan i install the linux-restricted-modules before network auto-contiguration?05:45
humonwhat's the difference between ubuntu 5.10 and ubuntu 5.10 "breezy badger"?05:46
bhearsumhas anyone here used software suspend 2 on a system with an nfs root filesystem?05:46
gnomefreakhumon: there is no difference05:46
stockholmoskude: the package is on the cd05:46
oskudestockholm, try insmod05:46
BiggiHello. Does anyone know how to make Konqueror open my folders in seperate windows in stead of tabs?05:46
stockholmoskude: dude, the package is not installed yet05:46
gnomefreak5.10 is code name breezy badger05:46
LjLhumon: "breezy badger" *is* the nickname for version 5.1005:46
regeyahumon: both are 5.1005:46
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humongnomefreak: ok05:46
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cppnewbieanyone that knows wazza prob here? :S05:46
regeyahumon: that's a bit like asking what the difference is between Mac OS 10.4 and Mac OS Tiger05:46
oskudestockholm, hmm, i though you need only to install a module... dunno ever done what you want...05:47
bas_gnomefreak: yes, you are right05:47
regeyawait...those are exactly the same05:47
eth0hi, could anyone help me, i can't get gnomebaker to burn a dvd bin file?05:47
gnomefreakcppnewbie: you have more than 1 apt running05:47
ShigutsoHow do I configure the "Applications" Menu???05:47
oskudestockholm, but im pretty sure google knows that05:47
eth0and apparently it's supposed to do so05:47
cppnewbiei dont. at least i think so, how can i figure it out?05:47
gnomefreakeither synaptic or updater ot you are apt-geting something else05:47
cppnewbienone of these05:47
cppnewbieit tells me something05:47
cppnewbielemme tell ya05:47
CyorxampWhat is the Archive Manager package called!?05:47
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gnomefreakfileroller?05:48
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cppnewbieopen (13 Access Denied)05:48
cppnewbiewazza? :S05:48
gnomefreakCyorxamp: you mean that archive manager?05:48
BSDinuxsudo?05:48
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gnomefreakcppnewbie: use sudo05:48
cppnewbieah05:48
gnomefreaksudo apt-get update or whatever command used05:48
Cyorxampgnomefreak, I think so.. are there any other good ones (i.e. can do alot of formats and has a GUI?)05:48
trappistpitti_: how can I get involved in the firewall spec?  or does the guy who got the bounty get exclusive access?05:48
cppnewbiesame again05:48
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gnomefreakfileroller is the only one i know of for sure and its gui05:48
cppnewbieit dled something but what i wanted didnt download05:49
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cppnewbiei think that is05:49
gnomefreakcppnewbie: do you have permissions to use sudo?05:49
cppnewbieof course05:49
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cppnewbiei used it and it worked, however when it reached a certain place it stopped05:49
cppnewbiesaying something about a lock again05:49
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gnomefreakcppnewbie: what did you download?05:49
clearscreenwhat's the difference between the cd and dvd version of ubuntu? dvd version just includes more software?05:50
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cppnewbieis it possible that this occurs if this thing is already in the system?05:50
gnomefreakclearscreen: i think so05:50
ajithtritium:- can you help me..05:50
vnikisomeone has the xgl subsystem?05:50
gnomefreakclearscreen: but with the repos enabled they are same05:50
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gnomefreaki have xgl05:50
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eth0hi, could anyone help me, i can't get gnomebaker to burn a dvd bin file?05:51
eth0and apparently it's supposed to do so05:51
vnikimmm is good?05:51
cppnewbieis it possible that this thing with the lock occurs if this thing is already in the system?05:51
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Cyorxampgnomefreak, hey I am using xubuntu (ubuntu with xfce) and i just installed fileroller... can I expect an icon to appear on the xfce menu? or that a stupid thing to think?05:51
gnomefreakvniki: its ok but its not gonna work on all systems05:51
Shigutsowhat is the application that can open .DEB files ??05:51
CyorxampShachaf, dpkg05:51
geniusvicksI opened fstab but I dont see any uid or uname column05:52
gnomefreakCyorxamp: you might get one but normally not when it asks you to save it just use fileroller to open it05:52
Dr_Willisopen as in 'install' you mean?05:52
gnomefreakShigutso: sudo dpkg -i file.deb will install the deb05:52
Shigutsoyes :)05:52
humoni have trouble enabling direct rendering on my Savage 4 graphics adapter. i've tried both auto detection and manual configuration through the X setup app (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) without success. any hints?05:52
bas_Shigutso, adept is a graphical installer, i find it easy to use.05:52
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Shigutsothanks :D05:53
gnomefreakhumon: is that vc supported in ubuntu?05:53
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cppnewbiehow can i set my resolution to 1280x1024?05:53
gnomefreakubotu tell humon about savage05:53
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geniusvicksI opened fstab but I dont see any uid or uname column05:54
gnomefreakcppnewbie: system>prefferences>resolution05:54
humongnomefreak: i'm not sure. it certainly detects the card as savage 405:54
LjLcppnewbie: if it's not a choice in the Gnome settings, then try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", answering with the defaults to every question except the ones about resolution05:54
cppnewbiegnomefreak 1280x1024 isnt in the list05:54
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gnomefreakhumon: you may need to get drivers i dont know anything about savage cards05:54
gnomefreakubotu tell cppnewbie about fixres05:54
gnomefreakcppnewbie: your pm should help05:55
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DarKSideSubotu help05:55
LjL!tell darksides about bot05:55
gnomefreakDarKSideS: what do you need help with?05:55
oskudecppnewbie, sure your monitor/graohicscard can handle that resolution ?05:55
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cppnewbieof course, its fairly new (nvidia 6800gt) :D05:55
DarKSideSubotu ipod05:55
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto05:55
DarKSideSick05:56
DarKSideSi give up05:56
cppnewbielol05:56
eth0hi, could anyone help me, i can't get gnomebaker to burn a dvd bin file and it's supposed to do so05:56
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oskudecppnewbie, if yes, change the monitor refresh rates in /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:56
cppnewbieaha thanx05:56
LjLguys, guys, more often than not specifying the desired resolution in xorg.conf (possibly by running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg") works :)05:56
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LjLdon't go to such great lengths before knowing that doesn't work ;)05:56
cppnewbiebtw that thing u gave me ljl doesnt work05:56
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oskudecppnewbie, there you can also change the resolution05:56
Specalthough, the best way to configure it is using vim...05:56
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LjLcppnewbie: which one?05:57
tritium_cppnewbie: what thing?05:57
cppnewbiethat sudo dpkg-reconfigure thing05:57
oskudecppnewbie, and your monitor has to support that resolution too, not just your graphics card...05:57
tritium_it does work, cppnewbie05:57
humongnomefreak: is this a driver?: http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/archive/savage-20051125-linux.i386.tar.bz205:57
LjLcppnewbie: you need to restart X for the new settings to take effect05:57
cppnewbieoskude it does :D05:57
gnomefreakcppnewbie: look in your pm and use that to fix it than05:57
cppnewbiek ljl05:57
LjLcppnewbie: you can do that by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace (careful: doesn't ask!)05:57
cppnewbiekk gnomefreak05:58
cppnewbiei know already tried once :D05:58
_filip__does somebody know if i can add an package to my Ubuntu cd so the package will be install when installing Ubuntu on my harddrive?05:58
bas_default cups/printer config in dapper really sux..05:58
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tritium_cppnewbie: did you "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart" after reconfiguring?05:58
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gnomefreakhumon: dont know i cant open it05:58
oskudecppnewbie, ok then i would look i the manual its vertical and horizontal refresh rates and change them in xorg.conf05:58
cppnewbieno i meant that i used ctrl+alt+backspace before, not that configuration stuff lol :p05:58
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oskudecppnewbie, and if you still dont get the res in the GUI, add it in the xorg.conf05:59
LjLcppnewbie: then do try either that, or tritium_'s suggestion (though i think that if you do that inside X, gdm won't really restart...?)05:59
tritium_cppnewbie: you haven't tried to reconfigure yet?05:59
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bur[n] erLjL: it will restart05:59
cppnewbienot really cuz i didnt know how tritium_ :P05:59
bur[n] ercppnewbie: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm05:59
gnomefreaksudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:59
geniusvicksI opened fstab but I dont see any uid or uname column and I cant edit it, its only a read only file05:59
bur[n] erdoh, wrong one ;)05:59
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LjLbur[n] er: i'm not so sure, i think the last time i tried it it simply stopped the server -- understandably, since the X terminal will be killed as soon as X is shut down05:59
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LjLbur[n] er, tritium_: i will try that now06:00
DarKSideSahhhhh06:00
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gnomefreakbur[n] er: can i set the res for gdm with that command?06:00
tritium_LjL: ok.  I didn't mean for him to do that from within X06:00
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bur[n] ergnomefreak: no06:00
gnomefreakdamn06:00
bur[n] ergnomefreak: that command just lets you choose between kdm and gdm06:00
gnomefreakahhhhhhh06:00
cppnewbielol i missed a letter before thats y it didnt work :D06:01
gnomefreaki really like the ctrl+alt+arrow :)06:01
gnomefreaknow if i can just get it to stay on a turn :(06:01
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LjLbur[n] er: "sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart" won't restart. i can't check with gdm, but i suppose it would be the same06:02
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tritium_LjL:I didn't mean for him to do that from within X06:02
bur[n] erLjL: you have to make sure kdm is the default first via "dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and pikc kdm06:03
bur[n] erLjL: then stop gdm via "invoke-rc.d gdm stop"06:03
JLiquorishdoes anybody know if there is a channel about web development?06:03
bur[n] erLjL: then start via "invoke-rc.d kdm start"06:03
bur[n] erweee, i'm out06:03
LjLbur[n] er: kdm *is* the default. the problem, as i said, is that if you do that inside X, the thing will be killed *before* it ever gets to restart06:03
bur[n] erJLiquorish: all over ;)  #php if you're into that06:03
LjLtritium_: i know06:03
eth0hi, could anyone help me burn a bin/cue file?06:03
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bur[n] erLjL: so just start it from a term06:03
JLiquorishthanks bur[n] er06:04
bur[n] erLjL: ctrl + alt + f206:04
LjLbur[n] er: i know how that's done.06:04
oskudeJLiquorish, or maybe some channels of "web ide's" like nvu...06:04
LjLbur[n] er: it's just that i previously said that doing "sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart" wouldn't work, while you said it would06:04
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LjLunder X i mean06:04
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bur[n] erLjL: it would ;)  it does here06:04
PrinterHey all.06:04
bur[n] erLjL: as long as kdm is the default and running06:04
LjLbur[n] er: try doing it *under an X terminal*, not in a console06:04
bur[n] erLjL: and it works ;)06:05
oskudetritium, whats V.C. ?06:05
=== bur[n] er is using gdm currently, but I used kdm yesterday
LjLbur[n] er: then i suppose gdm is different from kdm in that respect.06:05
tritium_virtual console06:05
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bur[n] ergdm works the same way06:05
bur[n] eranyway, i'm off06:05
PrinterAnyone manage to sync a Palm in dapper?  My Tungsten E works in Breezy but not dapper yet.06:05
oskudetritium, hmm06:05
bur[n] erPrinter: i haven't tried with my palm TX, but will soon ;)06:05
bur[n] erPrinter: using gnome-pilot or multisync or what?06:05
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tritium_oskude: poor little virtual console 1 (accessible via ctrl-alt-f1) is often neglected :(06:06
LjLbur[n] er: well, i really don't see *how* it could work. if you run that *inside an X terminal*, *that X terminal will be killed as soon as the "stop" is issued*. which means it will have no reasonable way to restart06:06
oskudetristan, aah, no i understand.06:06
oskude+w06:06
bur[n] erLjL: you use gdm restart, instead of stop/start06:06
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Printerbur[n] er: I can get it to work with jpilot but not in Gnome/Evolution.06:06
KrillancelloI may have a problem here.06:06
oskudetristan, hups, was for tritium_06:06
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bur[n] erPrinter: aww...  I haven't done it yet, but if I do, i'll let ya know06:06
LjLbur[n] er: sure. except a "restart" still has to stop the X server (thereby killing the issuing terminal) before restarting it06:07
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oskudetritium_, and you where wondering what ?06:07
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bas_tritium, people think X is running under vc1?06:07
cppnewbiek now i reconfigured it, what do i need to do in order for the changes to take effect? :S06:07
oskudetritium_, some messages as spitted to tty1 so i use allways tty2+06:07
tritium_oskude: I just think it's odd/comical06:07
LjLbur[n] er: just look inside /etc/init.d/kdm. you'll see that what the "restart" section does is simply run "/etc/init.d/kdm stop" before anything else.06:08
tritium_bas_: no, this is a separate issue06:08
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sesqhi, in fluxbox always after reboot i lose my wallpapper, how can i set it good ?06:08
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bas_yes i know but that may be the reason the use ctrl+al+f1t06:08
LjLbur[n] er: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/968106:08
bas_s/the/they06:08
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oskudeplease call it tty1 instead of vc1, sounds like visual c version 1 :)06:08
cppnewbie:S...06:08
cppnewbie:D06:08
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St_Ironhello06:09
tritium_oskude: it's the first virtual console, though06:10
gnomefreaksesq: session.screen0.rootcommand:fbsetbg -l or something like that06:10
Krillancellotritium_: It could also be called a virtual terminal, or VT. ;)06:10
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oskudetritium_, and you see "tty1" on the top...06:11
LjLit could also be called a darn console :>06:11
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navaneethhow do you install files with extension .tar.gz (like the firefox 1.5 i downloaded) on ubuntu?06:11
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oskudeLjL, i call it console, and terminal under x06:11
LjLnavaneeth: .tar.gz can't be "installed", as they're simply archives, similar to .zip files for example06:11
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bas_oskude: tty1 is the device /dev/tty1, virtual console is its name..06:11
gnomefreakubotu tell navaneeth about ff1.506:11
St_Iron!firefox06:11
KrillancelloExactly what does TTY stand for, anyway? I may have known at some point, but if I did I've since forgotten. O_o06:11
gnomefreaknavaneeth: follow that it works great06:12
edward0navaneeth: ubuntu comes with firefox06:12
St_Iron!firefox1.506:12
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:12
renewiphow many packages Ubuntu DVD has?06:12
LjLnavaneeth: you can use "gunzip filename.gz ; tar -x -f filename.tar" to extract them (there's a shorter version involving only "tar", but i never remember it)06:12
St_Ironhere you are navaneeth06:12
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oskudebas_, and for "noobs" its better to say tty1 as thats what they see as first...06:12
LjLnavaneeth: or, under Gnome, i think you can simply double-click on it and a GUI program will be launched to extract06:12
trpr42LjL: eventually you will take all those switches for granted. its tar -zxvf file.tar.gz ... would be tar -jxvf file.tar.bz2, etc06:13
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navaneethi can extract it anywhere i want?06:13
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LjLtrpr42: "eventually"? i've been using text-mode-only linux for about 5 years :)06:13
LjLtrpr42: i'm just used to gunzip followed by tar06:13
Jadihow can I install OpenOffice 2.0.1 on my ubuntu ? I've downloaded the file and after extracting it I have lots of RPMs.06:13
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LjLnavaneeth: yes, just "cd" to the directory where you want it extracted first (and then, of course, type the *complete* path of the file)06:14
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LjLnavaneeth: under the GUI program in Gnome, i'm sure there is an option to extract to any directory. can't really say, as i don't have Gnome06:14
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___Viper___from where i can get Gaim?06:15
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trpr42LjL: lol. well i guess not eventually. its going on 4 years for myself and i'm starting to pick up syntax faster and faster.. but there was a time when i wouldn't change any of my habits because they were so well learned.06:15
ShedPlanthttp://gaim.sourceforge.net or using apt-get06:15
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tritium____Viper___: it's installed by default06:15
cppnewbie:D06:15
Jadihow can I install OpenOffice 2.0.1 on my ubuntu ? I've downloaded the file and after extracting it I have lots of RPMs.06:15
jdlI'm needing to update my kernel on a breezy box.  Should I be able to slap down kernel.org sources near 2.6.16-rc5, twiddle some config options and expect things to pretty much still be working?  Or are their known gotchas here?06:15
navaneethwhat about .deb files like that of fluxbox?06:15
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tuvwhat is a good touch typing training program?06:15
ShedPlantTyping of the Dead, tuv.06:16
bas_Krillancello, "tty" is an abbreviation for "Teletype". The first terminals were Teletypes (like remotely controlled typewriters). See subsection Teletypes. A list of Linux devices (the stuff in the /dev directory) may be found in "Linux Allocated Devices" which should be included with kernel sources. It "describes" what each device used for in only a word or two but doesn't tell you how to use them.06:16
ShedPlant(not availble for linux afaik)06:16
cppnewbielol06:16
LjLtrpr42: well, keep in mind that typing the whole gunzip / tar thing is a fine way to spend my time while waiting for wget to complete the download of the tarball in question :)06:16
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cppnewbienot wineable?06:16
gnomefreakhow do i get into gconf?06:16
ShedPlantI don't know.06:16
Odicehi, how can i make my joystick work?, it shows itself in the device manager but when i run jscalibration, it doesn recognize it06:16
tritium_jdl: I suggest you install kernel-package, and use make-kpkg to make a .deb of the kernel you build06:16
tuvShedPlant: what is "Typing of the Dead"? is that a package name?06:16
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Krillancellobas_: Thanks, that was a bit long-winded, but you did answer my question. Haha.06:16
LjLgnomefreak: the editor you mean? gconf-editor06:17
jdltritium_ What is the advantage of that?06:17
iBaloJadi: throw the package and the .rpm into away and use the package manager 'synaptic' to install openoffice06:17
tritium_jdl: your new kernel will be under package management06:17
bas_Krillancello,  for more see: http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/HOWTO/Text-Terminal-HOWTO-6.html06:17
gnomefreakty06:17
ShedPlantTuv, Typing of the Dead is a game: a conversion of the Arcade classic "House of the Dead 2". I haven't tried installing it on linux.06:17
jdltritium_ OK.  Is it able to use my current git linux sources?06:18
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tritium_jdl: what are git sources?06:18
Jaditnx iBalo. I'll test it right now06:18
cppnewbieguys strange thing, while i was trying to install nforce drivers, i got the message that there were no precompiled kernels and that it would try to compile it itself. however it didnt06:18
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jdlgit is the source control mechanism currently housing linux.06:18
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tritium_cppnewbie: are you installing modules form source?06:18
iBaloJadi: see !easysource on how to enable the repositories for latest openoffice06:19
cppnewbiei dunno if .run files r considered sources :D06:19
LjL!tell cppnewbie about nvidia06:19
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Jadi!easysource06:19
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:19
tritium_jdl: oh, right...yes, kernel-package can work with any kernel source, essentially06:19
bas_cppnewbie, its not strange, prob. your kernel is not in the Nvidia kernel list, to recompile the Nvidia drivers for your system you need the kernel-source and headers06:19
LjL!info nvidia-glx06:19
ubotunvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7667-0ubuntu25.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 3012 kB, Installed size: 10040 kB06:19
tritium_cppnewbie: use ubuntu packages!06:19
tritium_!tell cppnewbie about nvidia06:19
jdltritium_ This is all precursor to making a new nVidia driver addition, of course...06:20
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cppnewbiewhere do i get these bas_ ?06:20
LjLcppnewbie: from the repositories.06:20
tritium_cppnewbie: read the URL I had ubotu send you06:20
bas_apt-get? or use adept and look for kernel06:20
cppnewbiek then :D06:20
zarephathclear06:21
bas_tritium, the ubuntu drivers are buggy and not the latest06:21
tritium_jdl: ?06:21
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zarephathHow do I search the repositories(from command line) to find which package has this file? libdvdcss206:21
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LjLbas_: so are you suggesting installing from source and possibly recompiling the kernel, to somebody who doesn't even know about APT?06:21
tritium_bas_: they're not particularly buggy.  What are you referring to?06:21
LjL!tell zarephath about shortapt06:21
zarephathLjL: Thanks06:22
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bas_Ljl: yes, its hard but it worth it.06:22
St_Ironhow can i write data cd with cdrecord? i want to burn the Nexuiz directory on a cdrw...06:22
SwedesHi06:22
tritium_bas_: not really06:22
jdlWell, a new nvidia driver is needed, and just like ubotu just mentioned, compiled in with some linux source headers..06:22
LjLbas_: well, i can't but disagree.06:22
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bas_tritium, postal2 is crashing whith the ubuntu respos.06:22
eth0hi, could anyone help me burn a bin/cue file?06:22
tritium_jdl: why is a new one needed?06:22
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Jadi!easysource06:22
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:22
bas_not with the drivers compiled from Nvidia website06:23
tritium_bas_: postal2?06:23
bas_yes06:23
St_Ironi have used the following command: cdrecord -tao Nexuiz -v06:23
SwedesI'm using umbuntu for the first time and wanna access a sertain irc channel.What shall I type to do so?06:23
tritium_no idea what postal2 is06:23
bas_game06:23
qt4x11hi i installed a program that put a script in /etc/init.d - this script doesn't seem to execute upon reboot.  is there anything i have to do to get it to execute on reboot?06:23
St_Ironand don't do anything...06:23
PloujI don't get this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//KernelHowto it tells me to apt-get kernel-package and gcc-3.4 but apt can't find those packages: Couldn't find package gcc-3.4 Couldn't find package kernel-package06:23
tritium_oh, no wonder I don't know what that is06:23
LjLSt_Iron: google "cd writing howto", first page you'll find is a very good guide06:23
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tritium_Plouj: you may need to setup additional repost06:23
St_Ironok, er, google, yes06:23
bas_tritium,  http://www.gopostal.com/06:23
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jdltritium_ Kernel is really old right now...Wanting to up-rev to current.06:23
egon_spenglerSwedes: If you want one on this freenode, just use /join #channelname06:24
Ploujtritium_: which ones?06:24
jdlCurrent nvidia driver doesn't.06:24
LjLPlouj: tried "sudo apt-get update"?06:24
tritium_Plouj: hmm, no, kernel-package is in main.  never mind06:24
St_Ironmy fingers are faster than my brain today... :(06:24
ompaulSt_Iron, what do you want to record?06:24
PloujLjL: I'm actually logged in as root06:24
tritium_jdl: oh, so it's not really about actuall _need_06:24
St_Irona directory06:24
PloujLjL: yes, I apt-get update(d) first06:24
tritium_actual, even06:24
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St_Ironompaul: a game directory, called nexuiz06:24
jdltritium_, Current nvidia driver needs to be compiled, might as well grab new sources to do so...06:24
LjLPlouj: hm, well, perhaps you have a problem with your mirrors -- the gcc-3.4 package is there in main for me06:25
ompaulSt_Iron,  okay so is it okay to tar it up?06:25
PloujLjL: I just installed ubuntu, how can I have a problem?06:25
tritium_jdl: if you want.  module compilation only requires that you have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed, though06:25
gnomefreakjdl: why do they need to be compiled i didnt compile mine yesterday06:25
St_Ironompaul: no, i don't06:25
Ploujwouldn't a lot more people have problems then?06:25
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xophErany idea why my ide-devices work really slow? I mean I can burn a dvd at a speed of 2x only, when the writer supports 16x and the media 8x.. What should I check first?06:25
LjLPlouj: dunno, perhaps the mirrors you're using are down or somewhat broken currently? try a simple "apt-get install gcc-3.4"06:25
ompaulSt_Iron, is that no you don't have a problem, or yes it would be a problem?06:25
jdltritium_ Need is an odd word.  If you hack linux for a living, then anything older than the current -rc candidate is, um "old". :-)06:26
PloujLjL: E: Couldn't find package gcc-3.406:26
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gnomefreakPlouj: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file on to pastebin06:26
LjLPlouj: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin?06:26
erik__how do you get "apt-get" Im new to linux06:26
Ploujya06:26
LjL!tell erik__ about shortapt06:27
gnomefreakerik__: apt-get is configured and installed06:27
BiggiHello. Does anyone know how to make Konqueror open my folders in seperate windows in stead of tabs?06:27
gnomefreakerik__: what are you trying to do?06:27
tritium_jdl: :)06:27
alolexwhat file system type should I use?06:27
alolexreiser?06:27
gnomefreakext 306:27
Ploujgnomefreak: http://paste.opsat.net/?/303/06:27
PloujLjL: http://paste.opsat.net/?/303/06:27
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Ploujactually, there are no comments in there06:27
Ploujthats the only line in my soucres.list06:27
LjLPlouj: your sources.list is broken.06:27
tritium_alolex: if you don't have a reason not to, you should stick with ext306:27
tyler_how can i activate xpdf as root in mc... which i can do as user?06:27
tyler_how can i activate xpdf as root in mc... which i can do as user?06:27
LjLPlouj: how did you install ubuntu? expert mode or something?06:28
alolexthx06:28
gnomefreakPlouj: do you have internet on your ubuntu box?06:28
PloujLjL: no, not expert06:28
erik__I have just read that its used for for fixing things and I do not know anything about it06:28
Ploujgnomefreak: yeah, I'm using it right now, booted into a different OS06:28
LjL!tell Plouj about easysource06:28
LjLPlouj: that should help you build a working sources.list06:28
jmendelblattDoes anyone know which graphical toolkit OpenOffice utilizes (linux version)?06:28
Ploujgosh06:28
Ploujwhy do I have to build it myself?!06:28
zarephath!tell zarephath about easysource06:28
iBalojmendelblatt: gtk06:28
LjLPlouj: because for some reason you don't have a working one?06:29
jmendelblattiBalo: are you sure about this?06:29
Plouj:/06:29
LjLPlouj: it's just a matter of checking the stuff you want and then pasting.06:29
Ploujgood06:29
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zarephathOops..sorry about that everyone06:29
iBalojmendelblatt: you an tekk by just _looking_ at it06:29
gnomefreakPlouj: you will need the repos enabled to get gcc i dont think it is on disk06:29
iBalo'tell'06:29
LjLgnomefreak: it isn't.06:29
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gnomefreakubotu tell Plouj about sources06:29
Ploujtoo much info06:30
Ploujhang on06:30
LjLgnomefreak: though it's puzzling that his ubuntu didn't generate the standard sources.list06:30
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vnikignomefreak in what system have u install xgl? dapper?06:30
gnomefreakLjL: they might have he just didnt give all that06:30
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erik__I am not trying to do anything right now but how do I access "apt-get"?06:30
gnomefreakvniki: its only out for dapper cant be used in breezy06:31
LjLerik__: from a terminal.06:31
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LjLerik__: apps / accessories / terminal, or something06:31
jmendelblattiBalo: This being true.....do you think that this will influence people in switching to Gnome over Kde?06:31
alolexis there a driver for windows XP to access ext3 file system with write permission?06:31
wastreli would be very happy if the audio in my flash plugin synced with the video...  any idea if this is fixable?06:31
vnikiah, oks!06:31
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vnikithx for all.06:31
Odicehow can i make my usb joystick to work?, it shows itself in the device manager but when i run jscalibration, it doesn recognize it06:31
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erik__Thanks Ljk06:31
LjLalolex: "ext2 windows" finds at least two possibilities. not sure about write support though06:31
gnomefreakvniki: also its not worth upgradeing to dapper for it06:31
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ChocoboHi all.  I have a friend with ubuntu.   What is the package name he needs to enable java applets in his browser?06:32
alolexhmm thx LjL06:32
tritium_!java06:32
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:32
clearscreenbweh06:32
St_Iron!cdrecord06:32
ubotuSt_Iron: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:32
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Chocobo!javadebs06:33
LjLalolex: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd this one appears to have write support, while the others appear to lack it06:33
LjLalolex: if it were my filesystem, though, i wouldn't trust it06:33
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clearscreenI installed dapper thinking it had somewhat more driver support.. after few hours searching(and installing dapper) I found out that it doesnt work on dapper, only on breezy.. lol06:33
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tritium_clearscreen: which?06:33
cppnewbiehere i am back again and i must say:06:33
cppnewbieyou guys RULE! ;p06:33
studenthi06:33
clearscreenwhich driver tritium?06:34
tritium_right06:34
gnomefreakcppnewbie: we know :) j/k06:34
studenthi06:34
cppnewbielol06:34
LjLcppnewbie: by the way, did you say 1280x1024?06:34
tritium_hi student06:34
studentlol06:34
studenthi06:34
cppnewbieya ljl06:34
cppnewbieits ok now :D06:34
clearscreentritium_ my acer 5023WMLI network adapter :P06:34
LjLcppnewbie: do you know pixels aren't square with that resolution?06:34
studentasl06:34
gnomefreakstudent: not in here this is a support channel06:34
cppnewbiei never gave a damn actually but it doesnt tire my eyes that much :p06:34
tritium_clearscreen: dapper didn't drop any nic drivers06:34
clearscreenI know06:35
LjLcppnewbie: well, just keep in mind that pictures and stuff will be distorted.06:35
tritium_student: please stop that06:35
studenthi06:35
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KrillancelloThe hell?06:35
cppnewbiedoesnt matter :D06:35
gnomefreakwhat worked in breezy will work in dapper when dapper is released most drivers work in dapper now06:35
KrillancelloI just tried to remove XChat with gnome-app-install, and it said there was something depending on it.06:35
KrillancelloWhat hell depends on XChat? O_o06:35
clearscreentritium_ but it just wont install my windows-only drivers through ndiswrapper..06:35
clearscreenand Ive read that it's a common dapper bug .. lol06:35
concept10could someone check my app and tell me if the log in is too slow? http://67.166.167.125:3000/user06:35
gnomefreakKrillancello: ubuntu-desktop?06:36
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clearscreenFFS06:36
gnomefreakty tritium_06:36
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Krillancellognomefreak: I didn't install that. I did a 'server' install and installed Gnome and X myself.06:36
clearscreenI was at 90% ubuntu dvd download06:36
LjLcppnewbie: ok, but you could still consider using 1280x960, or 1400x1050, or, hmm what was that, 1350x1024?06:36
clearscreenYAY Firefox crashed -_-06:36
cppnewbiebut since u told me about setting up nvidia graph card itself, do i need something specific to fix the nforce thing? :S06:36
gnomefreakKrillancello: what is it saying it depends on06:36
cppnewbiewell if i come up with any problems ljl at least ill know what to do know06:36
gnomefreakclearscreen: everything depedns on something06:36
cppnewbieif i dont forget it that is :P06:36
Krillancellognome-app-install doesn't say what depends on what. It just says "Something depends on this program, use Advanced mode (Synaptic)."06:37
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LjLcppnewbie: i dunno, i just followed the howto for nvidia cards, and it worked fine and easy for me06:37
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cppnewbiesame here lol :D06:37
roicoany1 using ff1.5?06:37
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gnomefreakKrillancello: apt-get install whatever will tell you what depends on it and more than likely install them after asking you06:37
Specapt-cache showpkg <packagename> will tell you more information than you'll want, including what depends on it, etc etc06:38
cppnewbieso anyone knows if ive got to do something specific concerning the nforce chipset drivers? :D06:38
tritium_Krillancello: apt-cache depends <packagename>06:38
Specoh, i suppose you could do that, too, :p06:38
gnomefreakthat too :)06:38
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tritium_:):06:38
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Krillancellognomefreak: I'm trying to remove XChat, and I just didn't realize there was something I'd installed that actually depended on it. Although now I'm seeing (in Synaptic) that xchat-common is installed, and it seems to be the obtrusive package (even though, logically speaking, the dependency should be reversed.)06:39
Speci always just use showpkg06:39
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jdlSo If I have more than one linux-headers package installed, which one will the nvidia installer use by default?  Or do I need to tell it which one to grab?06:40
roicoany1 using ff1.5?06:40
ompaul!ff1.506:40
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:40
LjLKrillancello: hm? it seems quite logical to me that xchat-common depends on xchat, or have i misunderstood that?06:40
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gnomefreakjdl: the kernel your booted too i think06:40
ompaulroico, ^^^ have a look at that link06:40
Biggiw06:40
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roico!ff1.506:40
roico?06:40
jdlgnomefreak Thanks.06:40
gnomefreakyw06:40
roiconice lol06:40
wastrelhow do i get the audio to sync with the video in the flash plugin for mozilla?06:40
ompaul!linux headers06:40
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul06:40
khaosixsalut06:40
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KrillancelloLjL: From the names, you would think xchat would depend on xchat-common, as most *-common packages are the parts of an app that are required by all versions of it (client/server, or in this case xchat/xchat-text/xchat-gnome).06:41
gnomefreaksudo apt-get remove --purge xchat should get rid of xchat and config files (should remove xchat-common also06:41
khaosixsa06:41
LjLKrillancello: it does.06:41
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LjLKrillancello: but xchat-common *also* depends on xchat, which seems reasonable to me06:41
cppnewbiehow do i check if a package is installed? what command?06:41
LjLcppnewbie: "apt-cache policy packagename"06:41
gnomefreakyou cant run xchat without xchat common being installed06:41
cppnewbiewhat do ya mean policy? :S06:41
LjLcppnewbie: ?06:42
gnomefreakcppnewbie: type that command you will see06:42
tritium_that's the command, cppnewbie06:42
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cppnewbieah06:42
KrillancelloLjL: xchat-common actually depends on "xchat | xchat-text | xchat-gnome."06:42
LjLcppnewbie: it's the apt-cache parameter06:42
cppnewbiei didnt realize lol06:42
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Dashi06:42
KrillancelloI just wanted to replace xchat with xchat-gnome, because I've wanted to test xchat-gnome out for a while but haven't gotten around to it.06:42
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nosilver4uwastrel: you can't, macromedia compiled it wrong06:42
LjLKrillancello: yeah, but i still don't see a problem with that... it seems quite natural that xchat-common would depend on xchat. what's the purpose of xchat-common without xchat installed?06:42
KrillancelloBut xchat-common had to make it a bigger brewhaha than it needed to be.06:42
LjLKrillancello: but if you check xchat, xchat *also* depends on xchat-common06:43
gnomefreakKrillancello: i think its the other way around i think you can install xchat-common without any other xchat packages06:43
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drbombay43is there anyone here running dr17 wm?06:43
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Dasyes06:43
gnomefreakdr17???06:43
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Daswat?06:43
wastrelnosilver4u:  jolly.  we'll have to hexedit the binary to fix?  ;] 06:43
LjLgnomefreak: well actually not, since xchat-common depends on xchat or xchat-text or xchat-gnome06:43
gnomefreakdid they change the name of it?06:43
ompaulDas, for whom or in reply to what was the yes for?06:44
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LjL(though it really only depends on xchat or xchat-text for me, weird)06:44
drbombay43Das; do you also have Gnome install06:44
jdlgnomefreak Had to supply -k `uname -r` to nvidia instller after all.06:44
Krillancellognomefreak, LjL: I misread its description. It says it's useless without one of the three xchat packages.06:44
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gnomefreakKrillancello: correct06:44
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KrillancelloWell, this is nice...06:44
KrillancelloI removed xchat and xchat-common, and installed xchat-gnome...06:44
gnomefreaki suggest irssi :)06:44
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LjLi suggest telnet06:45
Krillancello... now when I try to tell it to install xchat-common again, it wants to replace xchat-gnome with xchat.06:45
KrillancelloBastard packages.06:45
erik__any one install yahoo messanger on breezy?06:45
drbombay43gnomefreak; Enlightenment development release 1706:45
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LjLKrillancello: check xchat-common again -- on my sistem, it wants either xchat or xchat-text, no xchat-gnome06:45
tritium_erik__: most people use gaim instead06:45
gnomefreakerik__: its not worth it yahoo sucks on linux06:45
LjLerik__: i tried once. it installs without problems, but there are valid alternatives06:45
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gnomefreakdrbombay43: ahhhhhhh it used to be e17 but i guess they name the devel dr06:46
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erik__Thanks all06:46
drbombay43yes06:46
KrillancelloLjL: If I install xchat-common, it automatically installs xchat and uninstalls xchat-gnome. If I install xchat-gnome, it uninstalls the other two.06:46
KrillancelloSo fsck xchat-gnome.06:46
KrillancelloIt's not worth my time.06:46
tritium_Krillancello: are you using dapper?06:46
gnomefreakKrillancello: you cant have xchat-gnome and xchat on the system at same time in breezy06:47
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Krillancellotritium_: Breezy.06:47
LjLKrillancello: that's why i said to check xchat-common again... you said it depends on xchat-gnome | xchat | xchat-text, but for me it only depends on xchat | xchat-text06:47
gnomefreakdapper allows you both and xchat-gnome is default06:47
LjLKrillancello: (and actually, that's only for version 2.4 -- version 2.6, from backports, wants *only* xchat)06:47
KrillancelloLjL: That's right. I said that I misread the description which said it's useless without one of the three.06:47
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ChocoboOk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages   This does NOT work.06:48
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LjLKrillancello: yes, my descript says the same thing, but the dependencies don't reflect that06:48
zarephathWhat does the line in xorg.conf "DRI" Mode 0666 do for X?06:48
gnomefreakubotu tell Chocobo about seveas06:48
cppnewbiein here my ntfs hd cant be recognized by ubuntu06:48
cppnewbiesays like its not a disk or something06:48
gnomefreakChocobo: go to that site and there should be alternitives06:48
equadorwhy my internet is very slow, when i trying connect ? when i connected internet be faster06:48
equador?06:48
cppnewbieor its corrupted or something like it06:48
drbombay43how is breezy  coming along everyone or anyone' and when is the next release due?06:48
elzappThis is not a ubuntu specific question, but is there a file in /proc or /sys or a command that can tell me weither there is an external monitor connected to my laptop06:48
brannrevcould someone please give me a direct dl link to the Ubuntu.iso file? have lost my CD06:48
elzapp?06:48
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LjLcppnewbie: what command did you use to mount it?06:49
brannrevlocated in Europe06:49
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Chocobognomefreak, we have tries three mirrors so far :/06:49
clearscreenbrannrev06:49
gnomefreakequador: it could be a problem with your isp06:49
equadorwhy my internet is very slow, when i trying connect ? when i connected internet be faster06:49
clearscreenwww.ubuntu.com06:49
cppnewbiei dunno a friend did it for me06:49
cppnewbie:p06:49
equadorhow06:49
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equadorfix it ?06:49
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cppnewbiehowever, when ubuntu was installed in the first place06:49
gnomefreakequador: they could be working on it we support breezy not internet06:49
cppnewbiean sda1 hd appeared06:49
elzappbrannrev: sunsite.uio.no should have it06:49
cppnewbiebut still it couldnt b accessed06:49
KrillancelloOkay, so how the hell do I get xchat-common and xchat-gnome on Breezy?06:49
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KrillancelloOr can I?06:50
tritium_Krillancello: please calm down06:50
LjLKrillancello: i'm afraid you don't.06:50
equadorok :)06:50
gnomefreakKrillancello: sudo apt-get isntall xchat06:50
brannrevcheers06:50
gnomefreakinstall even06:50
nubbeIs there any need to start Firestarter on start-up?06:50
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seraphimno06:50
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Krillancellognomefreak: That wants to remove xchat-gnome as well.06:51
gnomefreakbrb06:51
nubbejust when I want to change firewall-rules?06:51
nubbeonly06:51
gnomefreakKrillancello: yes you can not have xchat-gnome and xchat on same system at same time06:51
LjLKrillancello: can you keep *both* xchat and xchat-gnome installed? i don't think i'm seeing any Conflicts about that06:51
clearscreennote to myself06:51
clearscreendo NOT click any links from mirc anymore06:51
gnomefreakLjL: not in breezy you cant06:51
clearscreenwill crash firefox :P06:51
brannrevdo I want the ia64 or the i386 version?06:51
LjLKrillancello: sorry, gnomefreak is right. there is a Conflicts06:51
brannrevIntel puter06:51
gnomefreakdapper you can06:51
gnomefreakatleast used to beable to06:51
KrillancelloWould dapper require a complete reinstallation?06:52
gnomefreaki stopped using xchat a while ago :)06:52
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gnomefreakKrillancello: if it gets borked yes06:52
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ompaulKrillancello, no it would be upgrading to unstable, it will be stable from 20th April06:52
Krillancellognomefreak: I mean going from Breezy to Dapper.06:52
rupan3is there anything i need to consider/worry about using chsh to change my shell to zsh?06:52
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deepwoodzi need help with confile .c n .h files to make drivers for my xbox 360 controller06:52
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LjLKrillancello: just yesterday, dapper users were stuck with their Gnome segfaulting on startup, because of a broken GTK. so i suggest you stay away from Dapper until it's released06:52
KrillancelloLjL: April?06:52
brannrevdo I want the ia64 or the i386 version? on an intel PC06:52
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gnomefreakKrillancello: you can upgrade to it with apt but dapper can and will break on you at a moments notice06:52
LjLKrillancello: unless you want to help debugging it that is06:53
LjLKrillancello: yeah06:53
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erezcd06:53
gnomefreakKrillancello: dapper will not be released till april 20th06:53
erik__Sorry about the newbie questions.  So now that I am using Ubuntu and I want to download linux programs, If Ubuntu is not listed am I out of luck or can I use any Linux program?06:53
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CoffeeHb?06:53
KrillancelloI'll just wait until April. This laptop I have Ubuntu on has a habit of being unstable as it is. I don't need to add onto that an unstable OS. >_>;06:53
LjLerik__: you can probably use a program even if there's not a version specific to ubuntu. but anyway, have you double and triple-checked that the programs you want are not in the APT repositories?06:53
ompaulerik__, that is a very broad question06:53
oskudeerik__, in "worst" case you can compile it your self06:53
gnomefreakCoffee: english in this channel06:53
equadorerik__, you can use any linux programs06:54
tritium_erik__: ideally, you should try to use ubuntu packages.  There are > 17k packages06:54
gnomefreak18k06:54
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ompaul!tell erik__ about universe06:54
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gnomefreak!info breezy06:54
oskudeerik__, and in very worst case you have to compile the libraries that the programs uses also yourself06:54
ompauloskude, I have not had to do that since moving to Ubuntu :-)06:54
mlehrerdoes ubuntu have a way to measure case temperatures & fan rpms06:54
gnomefreakerik__: stay away from .rpbs and stick with .debs or tars06:54
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LjLmlehrer: lm-sensors06:55
clearscreenhmmmmm just a general question.. I want the cd version of ubuntu but only have dvd's to burn it on.. will that work? (burning cd iso's onto dvd discs)06:55
gnomefreakubotu tell mlehrer about sensors06:55
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ompaulmlehrer, there is lmsensors it needs configuring and stuff06:55
Dr_Willisclearscreen,  i dont think so06:55
tritium_and if you use tarballs, consider using checkinstall06:55
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LjLgnomefreak: 17874 for me ;)06:55
CoffeePlease help me. I setup ubuntu Linux. My password is correct.06:55
oskudeerik__, are you talking about a particular software, or just curious ?06:55
gnomefreakclearscreen: no it wont work06:55
redrosehow can i modify permission so that only root can access the network?06:55
CoffeeBut it say it is fail.06:55
redroseso that only root can make network connections?06:55
stendhalredrose,  sudo ?06:55
gnomefreakLjL:  the bot used to say it but dont remember off hand06:56
tritium_Coffee: you need to be far more specific please06:56
clearscreenheh ok I'll look for an empty cd :p06:56
clearscreenand found one :P06:56
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erik__Just curious I have been using Ubuntu 24hrs and have never been on a Linux OS before06:56
redrosestendhal, no, i mean so that normal users can't access the network...06:56
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hypa7iahey, anyone know how to become a package maintainer?06:56
stendhalredrose,  yes i think06:56
Dr_Williserik__,  time to get reading! :P at least you got it installed.06:56
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clearscreenhahaha my windows is seriously messed up06:56
oskudeerik__, roger and remember, anyone was noob at some point :)06:56
redrosestendhal, sudo will allow people to ruin a command as root, not block off network access06:56
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gnomefreakxgl disabled synaptic :(06:56
rupan3anybody? i'm not gonna break anything using chsh to change my shell?06:56
gnomefreakbrb gonna restart x06:57
ompaulerik__, okay first up click on System - Administration - Synaptic Package Manager06:57
tritium_hypa7ia: you could pursue becoming an MOTU06:57
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clearscreenit just crashed and restored explorer 10 times in a row and then it worked again -_-06:57
ompaulerik__, after that read the link I had the bot send you06:57
hypa7iatritium_: ah cool i'd forgotten about that06:57
CoffeeJust. My login password is correct. But system says it is error.06:57
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hypa7iatritium_: there's just a known bug in the rmagick package that makes it useless06:57
tamerhi people!06:57
ompaulerik__, think of a job - maybe "editor" and then click on search and have a poke around06:57
LjLCoffee: remember that everything (user names and passwords) is case sensitive06:57
hypa7iatritium_: and the maintainer is awol06:58
tamerHow do I enable the keyboard switcher on ubuntu?06:58
tritium_hypa7ia: known as in reported?06:58
hypa7iatritium_: yup06:58
tamerI am going crazy... I have to use on kde several languages06:58
CoffeeYes. I setup it just now.06:58
b3nwwhere is the file that contains the settings from Session> Starut Programs ?06:58
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redrosehow can i modify permission so that only root can access the network? so that normal users can't hit the internet, but root can...06:58
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ompaulerik__, on the top panel you see the "life saver" click that little red and white icon it will present lots of help to you06:58
oskuderedrose, maybe in /etc/groups and taiking your users from net or so (just quessing!!!)06:59
rupan3Coffee: reboot into recovery mode and type(where <username> is the login): passwd <username>06:59
tritium_hypa7ia: yep, that package is in universe.  Did you file the bug?  on malone?06:59
redroseoskude, what do you mean taking them from net?06:59
erik__Thanks I have been poking around06:59
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cppnewbieso any suggestions on how i could browse my ntfs sda1 drive? :S07:00
clearscreenredrose maybe very dirty way but Id say remove their permissions on stuff like /etc/init.d/networking :P07:00
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CoffeeShould I order to something? I first use Linux .07:01
LjLcppnewbie: not besides what's on the ntfs howto page, really...07:01
LjL!tell cppnewbie about ntfs07:01
ompaulredrose, maybe something like squid and dansguardian, kinda hard to think like that for me, you could do something mad with a firewall, what kind of setup are you talking about - office - home -school ?07:01
sesqyo, do you know nice addons to Fluxbox ?07:01
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tritium_not a good idea, clearscreen07:01
redroseschool07:01
oskuderedrose, or maybe take your users name out from "dialout:x:20:osku,cupsys" in /etc/group (but im still just quessing!!)07:01
clearscreentritium_ told him it was dirty :P07:01
b3nwwhere is the file that contains the settings from Session> Starut Programs ?07:01
oskuderedrose, and that doesnt "sound" to work with external "dialouts" (like dsl router=)07:02
erik__thanks for all the tips07:02
redroseit's eth0 thatr i need to block07:02
oskuderedrose, if that "dialout" has even nothing to do with network...07:02
clearscreenwish me luck, installing ubuntu breezy on my acer laptop to eventually get kubuntu + wireless :p07:02
CoffeeOh! I see. Thank you rupan3.07:02
tritium_lunch time.07:02
cppnewbietried whats on the page for the first step07:03
cppnewbiesays wget http//www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter07:03
b3nwno one knows? :\07:03
EnglaI need the following: A tool that renames pictures in a folder so they are sorted by date. Not mtime, but the exif date. Exists?07:03
cppnewbiehowever it says that http is unknown07:03
cppnewbieor something like that07:03
sesqdo you know nice addons to Fluxbox ?07:03
redroseompaul, i need to block ALL access, on any port to every user but root, which is why i want to block access to the netowrk07:03
CoffeeBye. I will go to try.07:03
cppnewbiethat the name or service is unknown07:03
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oskuderedrose, i know what you want, i just have never done that so im just quessing...07:03
redroseyeah07:03
erik__Got to go now Thanks again07:04
LjLcppnewbie: that's supposed to be http:// , with a colon07:04
oskuderedrose, and i doubt iptables can restirct users07:04
cppnewbiewhoops07:04
cppnewbiemissed it07:04
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redroseyeah... is there any way to set a permission on eth0?07:05
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cppnewbieIgnoring /dev/sda1 - already in /etc/fstab <---- wtf?07:05
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ompaulredrose, I am off researching so I will talk in a few mins when I get an answer if there is one07:05
LjLcppnewbie: means your friend already added it to /etc/fstab, which is the file that lists all mountable partitions07:05
dstryrhow do you mount your floppy drive?07:06
cppnewbieso thats not the problem? :S07:06
LjLcppnewbie: whether he added it correctly is another matter07:06
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cppnewbiehow can i find out? ;)07:06
ompaulredrose, it is a strange requirement, honeytrap?07:06
LjLdstryr: i use "sudo mount /media/floppy"07:06
redrosethanks for the help all07:06
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LjLcppnewbie: paste your /etc/fstab on the pastebin07:06
gnomefreakxgl borked synaptic lol07:06
redroseompaul, no, my teacher let me install linux, but doesn't want anyone but root to be able to access the internet07:06
gnomefreakeven after removing the sym link :(07:06
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cppnewbieand what would be the link to the pastebin? :|07:07
gnomefreak!pastebin07:07
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)07:07
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dstryrLjL, mount: you must specify the filesystem type <<< ?07:07
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ompaulredrose, is it for web browsing only or anything else?07:08
LjLdstryr: try "sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy"07:08
cppnewbiehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/968207:08
once1eranyone else find it ironic that the _last_ user surfing the internet should be root. hell, blocking internet connectivity for root could be a good idea07:08
LjLcppnewbie: hm, that looks correct, except that your HD will be only accessible by root07:09
hypa7iatritium: The creator of the last version (from Oct) has no email address posted or contactinfo07:09
LjLcppnewbie: what does "sudo mount /media/sda1" tell you?07:09
hypa7iatritium: there are 3 major bugs on it in malone07:09
LjLonce1er: except you need it to install packages =)07:09
once1erredrose: disable eth0 on startup, and have the login scripts enable and disable it07:09
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Dr_Willisonce1er,  or the fact that under windows XP - basicially every user has the abulity to surf the web and trash the box with spywware07:09
once1ereh, download the packages as a normal user and install as root07:09
redroseonce1er, how do i disable it on bootup>07:09
LjLonce1er: and throw APT away? =)07:10
Dr_Willisonce1er,  heh - chroot jail apt-get :P07:10
once1erredrose: /etc/networking/interfaces07:10
redroseompaul, no everything, so that they can't make any connection to anywhere...07:10
cppnewbiehmm07:10
once1eropen that file, comment out the "auto eth0" line07:10
cppnewbienow i get a different error than before07:10
ompaulredrose, I have been doing this stuff for years, and I have never had to lock a box like that, so what I would say is that you don't even let root out07:10
cppnewbiesda1:access denied07:11
ompaulredrose, firewall everything07:11
cppnewbie:S07:11
LjLcppnewbie: uh, did you use sudo?07:11
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cppnewbieyepo07:11
once1erredrose: i say, get a new teacher07:12
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LjLcppnewbie: i don't understand that.07:12
cppnewbieneither do i lol :D07:12
trpr42redrose: heh. the teacher is loco. if you want to control access, control who you give accounts to and log what they do. have an acceptable use policy to deal with violations of the policy you are describing07:12
cppnewbiewell about me its norma07:12
cppnewbiel07:12
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Dr_Willisunplug the pc from the net. :P07:12
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oskudewell, i think this should be an easy task for linux, to restrict users net usage...07:13
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jockellquestion: dmesg reports timestamps as [52616.083865]  . Is it possible to convert that to a human readable timeformat ?07:13
oskudebut i cant find nothing in google neither..07:13
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redroseonce1er, it won't do it, if i modify /etc/network/interface to disallow eth0 at boot up, it won't do it..07:14
Dr_Willisi seem to recall some iptables discussion threads/docs/articals on limiting user  bandwith and so forth.07:14
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cppnewbieljl my hd that i cant go in to is sda1. the command to open it using sudo would be?07:14
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once1erredrose: it won't disable eth0? or it won't stop someone accessing the internet?07:14
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redroseit boot with eth0 up... also, i'm not looking to take eth0 down totally, just when anyone but root tries to access iut...07:15
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LjLcppnewbie: the command to *mount* it would be "sudo mount /media/sda1", or you could even try "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/sda1" -- the command to *look* into it depends -- you could use "sudo nautilus /media/sda1"07:15
LjLbut it must be mounted anyway07:15
deusHow can i find the correct title and chapter the dvd is on?07:15
deusi talking about mplayer07:15
cppnewbiewell07:16
ompaulredrose read this -->  http://squid-docs.sourceforge.net/latest/book-full.html <--- so the user that is installed first which is not root cos we disable root is treated like root when they use sudo or gksudo, so if that password is protected and that account not used then the rest of them can be blocked using squid, document named at the front of this is the handbook, that is the only solution I can give you, and that will work, providing you work within u07:16
ompaulbuntu, for further info, if you want to change the "non root" ways of ubuntu do this >>/msg ubotu root<< enjoy07:16
ompaulredrose almost accurate, that user is treated as UID0 when they use sudo/gksudo07:16
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redroseompaul, i use root, i made a root password, and the user first created has been stripped...07:16
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fletch33afternoon all i was hoping someone could tell me how to stop synaptic from telling me there are updates available for a particular piece of software because i upgraded it myself to a newer version already and it keeps trying to put it back to the old version by telling me an update is available07:16
once1erredrose: i don't know of a way that you can block everyone else, which is why i figured you could just have root enable the device whenever it was needed. if modding that file didn't help, i know its settable through the gnome network configuration app. And then you can just do ifup eth0   ifdown eth0 when needed07:17
redroseok07:17
LjLredrose (and ompaul, once1er, etc) ---- "man iptables", line 497 ---    --uid-owner userid    Matches if the packet was created by a process with the given effective user id.07:17
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ompaulLjL, nice one, redrose so you can use squid in that fashion also, I would never tell you to use root or to put a password in ubuntu, I don't see a need07:18
dstryrhow do you clear your bash history?07:18
oskudeLjL, thnx, so iptables can determine user too. cool.07:18
once1erLjL: well fine, now we all look like idiots07:18
once1ergood to know though07:18
cppnewbieljl i can view it now but when i try to copy a file from sda1 to the desktop i get the message that such a file doesnt exist07:18
ompauldstryr, cat >.bash_history<< then CtrlC07:19
oskudebut i was hoping something more simple like /etc/group...07:19
wastreldstryr:  > ~/.bash_history07:19
LjL=) no you don't it's just that sometimes we're so much used to google that we forget that man can get to some specific information easier...07:19
oskudeas you can say who can use audio,cdrom,etc in /etc/group, why not net too...07:20
trpr42once1er: that sounds like a reasonable solution. keep the interface down except when its needed. then root can enable and disable it07:20
LjLcppnewbie: that it doesn't exist? not that you do not have permissions for it?07:20
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once1eractually, iptables supports the --gid-owner too07:20
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once1eryou could in theory setup a "net" group07:20
once1erand add peopel to it07:20
LjLonce1er: yep07:20
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LjLonce1er: yep that would certainly be the "cleanest" thing to do07:20
amedhello every body07:20
wastrelactually you could just remove .bash_history07:21
once1erMaybe this is something that could be added to future versions of ubuntu ?07:21
dstryror is there anyway to clear bash history every time you log out?07:21
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wastrelit's not like anything would break if the file is missing.07:21
ompaulonce1er, well that that is more interesting group 0 only07:21
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onno./join #css07:21
cppnewbieljl i dunno at least thats what i get when i drag n drop files from sda1 to za desktop07:21
LjLonce1er: hmm well, it would mean setting very restrictive iptables rules by default... i somehow feel it might have some counter-indications07:21
fletch33how can i stop synaptic from telling about an available update for a specific piece of software07:21
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ompaulonno, sorry?07:21
cppnewbiethat it doesnt exist that is07:21
trpr42dstryr: try.... before typing any commands type unset HISTFILE.. the reference to .bash_history is removed.. nothing is logged07:21
once1erLjL: true, maybe then a blacklist?07:21
wastreldstryr:  ln -s ~/.bash_history /dev/null   - you'll never have a history...07:21
wastreldstryr:  oops switch the args07:22
wastrelheh.  i got mixed up07:22
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saifhello, i want to get my webcam to work on ubuntu, it is not automatically detected, how can i find out what chipset it is running?!? is there somethn like lspci?07:22
colecoHas anybody ever got Cedega running under a full 64 bit install, I can get it to work but when I try to play WoW the text is all distorted but everything else is fine, and when I try to play CS:S text just wont show at all07:22
wastrelah better way.07:22
trpr42dstryr: you would have to do that for every terminal you opened.. disables logging for the current session only07:22
dstryric07:23
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JonningsDoes anyone know how to write to the user-init-file in emacs?07:23
LjLonce1er: a "net" group would be nicer than a blacklist. maybe there would really be nothing wrong with settings such a policy by default, it's just that it would have to be investigated quite thoroughly before making it a default ubuntu thing...07:23
ompaulonce1er, care to put it up on the wiki for future consideration07:23
once1erredrose: future features of ubuntu aside, it looks like   iptables -A OUTPUT --uid-owner 0 -j ACCEPT   && iptables -P OUTPUT DROP  is about what you want ?07:23
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ompaulonce1er, or launchpad more likely07:23
LjLcppnewbie: try this. unmount first, "sudo umount /media/sda1"07:24
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LjLcppnewbie: then "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o ro,user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000"07:24
JokermanHi where can I get the drivers for CS4263B To a old Dell Optiplex Gx 107:24
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erUSULJonnings, open it is called .emacs07:24
JokermanI don't have any sound at all.07:24
KrillancelloWould removing/not logging bash history disable the ability to press up and get a previously-used command?07:24
JonningserUSUL: where is it located then?07:24
wastreldstryr:  so the best way is probably to put "unset HISTFILE" in your .bash_profile.    or ln -s /dev/null ~/.bash_history07:25
trpr42Krillancello: that it would07:25
erUSULJonnings, in your home directory07:25
once1erompaul: i'll play around with whether or not i really works, and i'll look into it this weekend07:25
cppnewbieYEAHOO LjL YA RULE! :D sure, now i can even access it with za console :D07:25
wastrelactually no, in the current session the history is kept in memory it seems.07:25
erUSULJonnings, it is writted in emacs-lisp07:25
wastreli just wiped out my history file and still have history for this bash session - the history only gets written when you exit07:25
trpr42wastrel: changes to the log file are not written until bash closes. the commands you typed just wouldn't carry over from one session to another07:26
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LjLcppnewbie: =) well edit your /etc/fstab so that, on the /dev/sda1 line, it has "ro,user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000" just between the "/media/sda1" and the "0 0"07:26
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LjLcppnewbie: that should make it work by default07:26
wastreltrpr42:  which one :] 07:26
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cppnewbielemme c07:27
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cyorHey anyone familiar with the ubuntu wiki in here?07:27
wastrel!anyone07:27
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>07:27
cyorwastrel, please do shut up07:28
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trpr42wastrel: i'm really out of it. pulled an all nighter. i just noticed that what i said is just what you said. pay no mind07:28
oskudecant compute that facoid, what does it mean ?07:28
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funkyHatcyor, any particular page?07:29
wastrelcyor:  you mean ubotu :] 07:29
CuriosCatHey all.07:29
cyorfunkyHat - no07:29
CuriosCatI'm installing on a SCSI disk, and running into an mkinitrd problem right after it prompts me what kernel to install07:29
cyorbasically I am trying to sign in to edit a page using my launchpad ID07:29
CuriosCat(this is breezy)07:30
cyorone sec07:30
CuriosCathow do I figure out which kernel I should be installing?07:30
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S0me1sudo CuriosCat, apt-get install kernel07:31
CyorxampHey although I can sign in to launchpad and my password is ok... I can't seem to sign into the ubuntu wiki using it? anyone have any ideas?07:31
S0me1CuriosCat, sudo apt-get install kernel07:32
S0me1sorry ;p07:32
CuriosCats0me1: Don't quite have a bash prompt yet :P07:32
LjLuh, there is no "kernel" package that i can see07:32
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CuriosCatI'm in the middle of the ubuntu installer07:32
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LjLCuriosCat: well, i can tell you that the latest breezy kernel is 2.6.12-1007:33
CuriosCatI created a 256MB /boot partition, a 16GB / partition and a 2GB swap partition on /dev/sda. No LVM, no RAID, nothing fancy07:33
S0me1lol07:33
oskudei think he means i386 or i686 and so on...07:33
CuriosCatit's giving me a choice between linux-kernel, linux-386-kernel etc07:33
Cyorxampnm working now - had to use lowercase username I think07:33
LjLCuriosCat: oh. what's your processor?07:33
ViriiGuyIs anyone here running on a M6805 laptop?07:33
CuriosCatljl: P3 on this box07:33
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LjLCuriosCat: though you can just install i38607:33
CuriosCatbut the problem seems to be the mkinitrd that follows just afterwards07:33
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S0me1CuriosCat, what is your CPU?07:34
LjLS0me1: P307:34
CuriosCatI just mentioned the kernel selection because it's the last prompt I get before the RSOD07:34
oskudei install allways the standard 2.6 i386 kernel and update afterwards...07:34
oskudefor p3 take ...i68607:34
S0me1CuriosCat, ok try uname -a07:34
CuriosCats0me1: I'm in the installer...box isn't installed yet..07:35
LjLCuriosCat: hm, i'm not sure about this, but what exactly is it saying it's going wrong with mkinitrd?07:35
LjLCuriosCat: you can still get to a shell, at least you should, by pressing alt+f207:35
CuriosCati guess I should check that menu to see if there's an emergency shell I can invoke, huh07:35
CuriosCatah, ok07:35
CuriosCatljl: I reran it. Let me go copy down the exact error message07:35
CuriosCatbrb07:35
oskudei remember wikipedia having those i386, i686, etc listed, but cant find anymore...07:35
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S0me1CuriosCat, kernel as your CPU i386 or i686 for Intel07:35
LjLS0me1: yeah but his problem is that the following mkinitrd fails for some reason07:36
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S0me1CuriosCat, you cannt install any kernel07:36
macewanhey, whats the apt-get to upgrade gnome but exclude something like kde?07:37
chris12349does anyone know the command to name a ext filesystem? I have a external drive and I forgot the command to name it so it doesn't look so strange in nautilus07:37
S0me1CuriosCat, Do you mean recompile kernel?07:37
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LjLmacewan: uh?07:37
Apocalypticahellow07:37
Apocalypticabig thx i get Ubuntu Cds07:37
S0me1:)07:37
macewanLjL: kde is barfing on the upgrade07:37
Apocalypticabut some questions07:37
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LjLS0me1: no, he's in the Ubuntu installer. he's got an SCSI drive, which probably requires some relevant model to be included in his kernel's initrd. but that fails07:37
macewantrying to just exclude it during the grade07:38
macewanupgrade07:38
S0me1aha07:38
LjLmacewan: is that a dist-upgrade?07:38
oskude!cpu07:38
ubotuoskude: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:38
macewanyup07:38
oskude!architecture07:38
ubotuoskude: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:38
Apocalypticamans07:38
CarlFKwhat is a URL that describes ubuntu-server ?07:38
cppnewbielibs for playing mp3s perhaps? :S07:38
LjLmacewan: dunno, perhaps try a simple upgrade and see what it tries to do?07:38
CuriosCats0me1: I'm not in a state to compile anything.07:38
cppnewbieah wait i think ive already asked that one in here07:38
ApocalypticaSOund Blaster 24 dont work07:38
dstryrwhat version are yall using?07:38
CarlFKI need an answer to "what is a good distro to run apache on?07:39
itayspHello07:39
macewanLjL: did that,07:39
Apocalypticahow install Acorp Sprinter@ADSl into Ubuntu?07:39
oskudeCarlFK, debian.07:39
CuriosCatThe error is: "Unable to install initrd-tools. An error occurred while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system. See /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details."07:39
itayspI need help with ubuntu07:39
CuriosCatand that file does not exist07:39
trpr42CarlFK: take your pick. my personal choice for servers is debian stable07:39
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S0me1CuriosCat, what is the error msg please?07:39
ploomCarinArr, in case you ask here, then debian or ubntu - oterwise it will run even on win3207:39
CyorxampQUESTION! (if this doesn't exist it's a damn good idea) - can you download chunks of xorg.conf files (i.e. sections) for certain models of graphics cards and also for monitors? and well basically piece yourself a properly confitured xorg.conf together?07:39
CarlFKtrpr42: isnt the point of ubuntu-server to be a good choice?07:39
macewanLjL: will try something else07:39
macewanthnx07:39
CuriosCats0me1: The error is: "Unable to install initrd-tools. An error occurred while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system. See /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details."07:40
Dr_WillisCyorxamp,  not at this time. sadly.07:40
LjLCuriosCat: try "apt-get install initrd-tools"07:40
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trpr42CarlFK: I have never used it so i won't recommend it. i am sure it is a decent choice though07:40
itayspcan some1 help me?07:40
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Dr_WillisCyorxamp,  i look and twiddle and exit a lot of the configs..  i just tend to keep archives for each machines.07:40
LjL!tell itaysp about helpme07:40
Cyorxampdr-slizer - all it would take is someone to build up a collection07:40
S0me1CuriosCat, copy past /target/var/log/bootstrap.log please07:40
Cyorxamp* Dr_Willis07:41
LjLS0me1: that file does not exist07:41
Dr_WillisCyorxamp,  problem is often the configs from different disrtos use different  default names and so forth.07:41
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Cyorxampfor drivers?07:41
Dr_WillisCyorxamp,  ive noticed that my X configs have actually gotten a lot simpiler as time goes on.07:41
wastreleach subsection has a place to name the device that it's configuring07:41
Dr_WillisCyorxamp,  paths to fonts, montiors, mode lines, server layouts.. then ya got twinview and xcinierma stuff...07:41
CuriosCats0me1: there is no such file.07:42
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itayspi have just installed ubunto. everything was ok with the installation. when i log in to ubunto, after i write the pass, it shows me a brown window and then nothing happens. i can move my mouse but i can't do nothing else07:42
Dr_WillisIve had configs from live cd's work with some disrtos.. and other live cd's dont do the same 'things' right.07:42
CyorxampDr_Willis - true but I am just on about the device and display sections07:42
S0me1LjL, he cannt try apt-get install initrd-tools i think07:42
CuriosCatljl: apt-get doesn't seem to be in the path in the installer shell, but there's an apt-install which I believe is a frontend to it. apt-install initrd-tools succeeds, but I'm not sure how to run the remaining 20% of the installation process07:42
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CyorxampDr_Willis -  up for grabs on some sort of site07:42
S0me1CuriosCat, did you check for CD md5 ?07:42
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LjLCuriosCat: hm, well, just try again the initrd step... perhaps it works now, but mind you, i'm basically just guessing07:43
ViriiGuyWell I am going to format AGAIN and try to get07:43
LjLCuriosCat: yeah S0me1 is right, you might have a broken cd07:43
ViriiGuyUbuntu to work on my m6805 again07:43
CuriosCats0me1: I got the shipped CD. It's not a download07:43
Dr_WillisCyorxamp,   i think the xorg config file needs to be 'broken down' into smaller sub files actually. but i dont see that happening any time soon07:43
CuriosCatand it works fine on other systems, so I'm more suspecting I have broken hardware.07:43
ViriiGuyanyone have any pointers for getting the wireless to work?07:43
clearscreenis there a AP lister for wireless connections in gnome?07:43
CuriosCatThis is an Intel ISP2150 (old 2U server), and they tend to be very finicky07:43
wastrelactually it wouldn't be hard to have "drop-in" configuration lines for different devices07:43
LjLitaysp: i don't know, but you might want to try a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" from a console, so you'll have the latest packages. if there's a bug hitting you, it might have been fixed07:43
cwillufrom /proc/sys, why doesn't ls *swap* -R show swappiness?07:43
Dr_Williswastrel,  i started to do that. at one time.. but i just found it easier to buy identical cards for all my machines. :P07:44
LjLCuriosCat: are you actually going to use your SCSI hd as your boot hd?07:44
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S0me1CuriosCat, to check ubuntu iso file like this -> ex: md5sum ubuntu.iso07:44
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zarephathI have yet to figure this one thing out regarding terminal...I have edited the profile..but it never keeps the size of the window that I set it at..anyone help?07:45
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CuriosCatljl: Yeah, there's no IDE on this machine save for the CD-ROm07:45
^ap^plz somebody help me07:45
Morfosomoright day#2 of the chopped sound situation07:45
LjLCuriosCat: i see07:45
Dr_Williszarephath,  that would be more a feature of the window manager you are using. I think07:45
CuriosCats0me1: What part of "it's not a download" confused you?07:45
LjL!tell ^ap^ about helpme07:45
oskudeok, thats usefull: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "cpu family", an the number X is then your X86... nice07:45
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CuriosCatljl: There's some issue on these servers with the aic scsi controller. I suspect that's what I'm running into.07:46
oskudelike cpu family      : 6, would be 68607:46
Morfosomono stream comes right through my machine and its the only one using the net now07:46
vVictoRrwhat to with dropped packets?07:46
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dstryrThere were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins.07:46
LjLCuriosCat: i'm not sure, though, "cannot install initrd-tools" doesn't sound like a broken controller, but more like something with ubuntu... though you never know07:46
dstryrwhat decoder is it talkin about?07:46
Cyorxampis anyone here a fundamental part of the ubuntu project - got a cosmic idea for ya (anyone who says !anyone will be severely insulted)07:46
dstryr?07:46
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PuMpErNiCkLeCyorxamp: You might have better luck in #ubuntu-devel07:47
Cyorxampah!07:47
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CuriosCatljl: Yeah, but it's hard to tell. If I try using lvm, it fails during makedev etc07:47
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CyorxampPuMpErNiCkLe - well its not so much about the software side of things, but more the wiki07:47
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djpis anybody here using camera monitor? http://infinito.f2o.org/cameramonitor/index.php07:47
S0me1CuriosCat, are you order CD from Ubuntu site?07:47
CuriosCats0me1: Yes.07:47
zarephathWell hey there Dr_Willis...yes I just haven't figured out how to get at the config file for that term..in this case the default that installs with gnome(as you know I am running dapper)07:47
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S0me1ah07:48
LjLCuriosCat: look you could try running a live cd, seeing if it works, and seeing if it can see your SCSI drive. though you might just end up wasting your time -- also since having a module loaded at runtime is quite different from having it load inside initrd07:48
CuriosCathey, it was free, couldn't pass up a deal like that07:48
cwilluCuriosCat; dumb question, do you know that the cd's actually good?  my first batch I got delivered had hairlines cracks,07:48
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CuriosCatcwillu: I've installed with this CD on about half a dozen machines successfully07:48
cwilluokay07:48
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cwillusame architecture, config, etc?07:48
CuriosCatso while I can't be POSITIVE (maybe there's a scratch right on a driver that this particular machine needs), I'm reasonably certain07:48
S0me1LjL, you are right , just for test07:48
LjLCuriosCat: still... i think you could still check the md5sum of your CD07:48
cwillu(unlikely to make a difference, I know, but I've had that happen)07:48
S0me1CuriosCat, try it07:48
CuriosCatljl: Probably worth a shot. But what do I run md5sum against?07:49
CuriosCat/dev/hdc?07:49
LjLCuriosCat: after all, perhaps the other machines had IDE drives or something that didn't hit the corrupted parts of the CD07:49
LjLCuriosCat: yeah, i think that should work07:49
cfeddeopenldap server is only available from apt-get via ultrapossum?07:49
S0me1CuriosCat, try use live Cd07:49
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oskudedebian installer had option to test the cd...07:49
CuriosCatso does fedora07:49
LjLCuriosCat: it might take some time though i suppose (but not really, as the CD will be read linarly...)07:49
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CarlFKhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu says "doing a server install of Ubuntu" - anyone have a URL for how to do that?07:50
CuriosCatand fedora bugs out on this machine too in spite of the CD passing07:50
Belea_hi there..  what theme i should use to have cpu load and memory..  on my desktop ?07:50
CuriosCatljl: I'll start it and go do something else. Not worried about it07:50
dstryrThere were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins.07:50
dstryrwhat decoder is it talkin about?07:50
Belea_and if it can to be a bit  transparent07:50
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PuMpErNiCkLedstryr: What format is the stream in?07:50
CuriosCatljl: the main reason I'm trying this out is to evaluate fedora as a server OS. I already like it for a desktop Linux.07:50
LinuxJonesBelea_: gdesklets has lots of stuff like that07:50
CuriosCaterr, not fedora. ubuntu. duh.07:50
dstryr.wmv07:50
dstryrim trying to play a video07:51
S0me1CuriosCat, Live CD to test your hardware07:51
dstryrbut it wont play07:51
S0me1lol07:51
trappistBelea_: I use gkrellm with the klearllm theme07:51
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CuriosCats0me1: worth a shot07:51
dstryrit says: There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins07:51
M_A_KOK, I finished installing ubuntu and configured KDE and GNOME the way I want.  I inserted a CDROM, where the heck is it?  Currently using KDE.07:51
trpr42Belea: using a composite manager / opengl will put some wicked eye canding on your screen (transparents windows, etc).. its buggy sometimes though. i turn it off most of the time unless i'm trying to show it off ;)07:51
Belea_thx guys07:51
oskude!wmv07:51
uboturumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats07:51
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PuMpErNiCkLedstryr: Have you checked teh restricted formats and w32codecs pages for help?  They're the ones that cover things like wmv.07:51
PuMpErNiCkLe!restriced07:51
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PuMpErNiCkLe07:51
PuMpErNiCkLe!restricted07:51
ubotufrom memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats07:51
PuMpErNiCkLe!w32codecs07:51
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install07:51
dstryrbut is there any way to play though?07:52
LjLCuriosCat: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2006-01/msg00928.html07:52
LjLCuriosCat: no solution there, but it does sound similar to your problem (though the guy's using a custom made CD)07:52
PuMpErNiCkLedstryr: Yes, by installing the plugins, as detailed above by ubotu. ^^^^07:52
cwillufrom /proc/sys, why doesn't ls *swap* -R show swappiness?  I think I'm misunderstanding what ls -R actually does...07:52
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cppnewbieimpossible to open file with lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock (open 3 access denied) <----- wtf is that when i apt-get again?07:53
CarlFKcppnewbie: did you sudo?07:53
cwillusynaptic open?07:53
cwilluusing sudo?07:53
once1erwelp, filtering network connections based on iptables is dead in the water07:53
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once1erapparently  -m owner  --gid-owner   only matches on the PRIMARY group07:53
CuriosCatok, trying the liveCD07:53
once1erand not all07:53
LjLCuriosCat: uhm have you tried passing the infamous "acpi=off" parameter to the kernel when booting? i've found someone on google who said he solved this initrd problem doing that07:53
oskude!version07:54
ubotuhmm... version is to check version of Ubuntu use lsb_release -a07:54
cppnewbieah finally07:54
cppnewbieit works now07:54
cwilluk07:54
wickersHello all07:54
CuriosCatljl: Hrm. That's worth a shot. Let's see what LiveCD does07:54
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cppnewbiewhat happens if i dont use sudo?07:54
M_A_KCan someone tell me how to mount my CD? I put one in, but it does not mount.07:55
LjLcppnewbie: that you don't have root priviledges ;)07:55
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cppnewbiesounds normal to me but in the guide im following in here theres nothing about sudo apt-getting, only apt-get alone07:55
itayspi have just installed ubunto. everything was ok with the installation. when i log in to ubunto, after i write the pass, it shows me a brown window and then nothing happens. i can move my mouse but i can't do nothing else07:55
Cyorxamp!paste07:56
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.07:56
Cyorxampthanx ubotu07:56
cppnewbieany !help command in the chan or something? :D07:56
once1erM_A_K:  use the following command from a terminal    mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom007:56
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CyorxampWHAT do people think of this suggestion??? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/968407:56
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cyphasedoes there exist somewhere in the world a graphics card that Ubuntu supports fully with 3D and DVI?07:57
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cppnewbie!help07:57
iBalomost nvidia stuff07:57
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SpecHow do I strike-through text on the ubuntu wiki?07:57
cwillucppnewbie; what guide are you following?07:57
M_A_Konceler : how can I get this to automount?07:57
djpwhy would an icon not show up in my menu panel? using gnome and even though if (by chance) i happen to right click on an invisible icon... the icon does not show up?!07:57
cppnewbiewell it says apt-get update and apt-get install foo07:58
cyphaseiBalo, i guess i have bad luck, always getting cards with problems. wold you have a spcific model number?07:58
once1erM_A_K: gnome and kde should both have device monitors that automatically mount them07:58
cyphasewould*07:58
cyphasespecific*07:58
cwillucpp;?07:58
M_A_KHmmm, when I put the disk in, it did not mount.07:58
once1erM_A_K if they don't, i don't know how to fix them. maybe its disable-able somewhere?07:58
oskudeCyorxamp, i would be for manufactures writing the needed info in their manual or web...07:58
Dr_WillisCyorxamp,  ya proberly should of edited/cleaned it up quite a bit.. and this is a 'big' issue. :P lol.. but the system now works for most people fine.. so dont expect much to happen.07:58
cwillucppnewbie; what guide are you following?07:58
Dr_Williswork time.. byeee....07:58
cppnewbiewanna link? its not ubuntu specific but its about making psp apps lol :p07:58
PuMpErNiCkLeCyorxamp: Makes sense to me, but I doubt I'd use it, personally.07:58
cwilluyep07:59
cwillucppnewbie; sudo is basically how you avoid shooting yourself in the foot07:59
Cyorxamposkude - yeah but as I said in the post - not everyone has a manual... esp if the person who made ur card/monitor has gone bump07:59
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oskudeCyorxamp, and you need "trusted" users to add those entries, i know im too lazy for that...07:59
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bartoszHi07:59
cppnewbiehttp://harleyg.linuxlabs.co.uk/tutorials/psp/pspdev/1.html07:59
iBalocyphase: sorry, i don't know the latest nvidia-range... but any recent nvidia will be fine, double check with google when you targeted a specifc model..07:59
bartoszcan anyone tell me how to set the resolution in this?07:59
cwillucppnewbie; anything (for certain values of anything) that could break the system won't work unless you sudo it07:59
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cyphasehmm07:59
dlowellcan anyone tell me why my hp laserjet 4 plus printer isn't working with ubuntu 5.10?08:00
PuMpErNiCkLeCyorxamp: And from my experience, it's not the vid cards/monitors that are the worst, it's the sound.  (That's a software problem, though, not so much a config one.)08:00
cwillukeeps you from, say, formatting your drive by accident, etc08:00
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oskudeCyorxamp, but i have NOTHIG against your idea. would be nice to have a "drag drop" archive of know device etc sections....08:00
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cppnewbiesounds good, perhaps u could help me with that guide thing. guess foo isnt a specific package or something?08:00
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djpanyone using a labtec webcam pro here?08:00
cwillubut sudo isn't used by every distro, so if you're following instructions that don't know anything about it, you can usually just put sudo before the instructions that don't work08:00
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cppnewbieit says debian and afaik ubuntu is debian based08:00
oskudeCyorxamp, as it could be easier/faster to update as the "automatic" funtion in the debian config08:00
cwilluyes, but debian doesn't neccessarily use sudo :)08:01
bartoszhow do I change screen resolution?08:01
sesqYo, How i must configure fstab to can removing and making files on windows partition NTFS, ( currently i have: /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults        0       0 )08:01
cwilluone sec, let me peek at that url08:01
PuMpErNiCkLesesq: NTFS isn't writeable in Linux - the support isn't there for it.  It's not a config problem.08:02
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oskudeCyorxamp, but the BEST would be people would send their setting to the devs so they can add it to the automatic script, that way noobs wouldnt have to do nothign...08:02
PuMpErNiCkLesesq: Ok, that's not entirely true - under certain conditions, you can write to NTFS, but it's very limited.08:02
Cyorxampwhat automatic scripts?!!?08:02
iBaloCan anyone recommend a good RTS-game for linux, preferrably one that's in the repos :-) (No commercial one)08:02
PuMpErNiCkLeiBalo: RTS?08:02
dlowellcan anyone tell me why my hp laserjet 4 plus printer isn't working with ubuntu 5.10?08:02
sesqPuMpErNiCkLe, ok, and on fat32 can i write ?08:03
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iBaloreal time strategy08:03
PuMpErNiCkLesesq: Yes.  FAT32 is definitely supported.08:03
utechwazz up PEOPLE!08:03
cppnewbiei assume they know that iBalo lol :p08:03
dlowellnothing08:03
oskudeCyorxamp, dunno what does that automatic things when doing like "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"08:03
once1erPuMpErNiCkLe: have you seen captive-fs? (i think thats it)08:03
utechl0l08:03
Cyorxamposkude - that thing is bloody useless08:03
sesqPuMpErNiCkLe, ok, how must fstab look, i have ( /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults        0       0 )08:03
cwillucppnewbie; do you have a favourite editor yet?08:03
oskudeCyorxamp, but i assume that it uses a database08:03
once1erPuMpErNiCkLe: it allows, in my experience, reliable write access to ntfs08:03
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cppnewbieu mean what by favorite editor?08:03
utechhey i need help08:04
jdlHe means, can we start a flame fest.08:04
oskudeCyorxamp, yes, beacuse the database is not "complete" (if it even uses a database)08:04
cwillui.e., vi, emacs, gedit, etc08:04
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utechwere i install the dll in wine ?08:04
PuMpErNiCkLeonce1er: Interesting - got a link?08:04
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once1erlemme search it08:04
cppnewbiecwillu ill b using gedit08:04
PuMpErNiCkLek08:04
once1erhttp://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/08:04
once1erthe guy stopped working on the project i think, because it works for what it does08:04
cppnewbiewhat do i do after that is the issue08:05
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sesqPuMpErNiCkLe, hda1 is FAT32, ( /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults        0       0 ) what should i change to write on it files?08:05
once1erI wouldn't use it in production, of course. but i've found it really useful for dealing with data around the office08:05
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Nox|hi all08:05
cwillushould be able to install the packages via synaptic, or by sudo apt-get <blah blah blah>08:05
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once1ergoogle reveals that apparently knoppix includes it08:05
cppnewbiecwillu how could i access them via synaptic?08:06
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once1eroh, nm, someone was saying they _should_08:06
cwilluyou can type "sudo bash" to get a root prompt, where you don't have to type 'sudo' before everything, but be _extremely_ careful what you do in that prompt;  no second chances if you screw something up08:06
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utechhey is there ubuntu will have xgl in the future ?08:06
sir_quickenHelp! help!! I dunno what 2 do now :(08:06
DigitalLFhow do i remove pcmcia-cs without removing ubuntu-desktop?08:06
cwillulaunch synaptic (it's in the system menu I think), and just look for the package08:06
klianHi, Im trying to install 'quota' and it says:E: Package quota has no installation candidate08:06
klian, any idea ?08:06
cppnewbiet'is not there :p08:06
sir_quickenI am trying 2 network & I cannot get window 2 read te ntlmspp encryption & vise versa08:07
cppnewbieone of em is update-apt08:07
jdlClearly my GeForce 2 is a POS.  The current nvidia driver claims I need to use the "legacy" drivers instead, and bails.08:07
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cwillu!synaptic08:07
ubotusomebody said synaptic was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto08:07
cppnewbieand the other one foo2zjs08:07
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deltaHi. Does there exist public DNS?08:07
once1erits all public08:08
zAo^lol: no1 in #dapper+108:08
PuMpErNiCkLeonce1er: Looks good.08:08
AndrewLeeWhere can I ask question for mirroring ubuntu? Does any channel for mirror admins?08:08
cwillusynaptic is a front end to the apt-foo commands08:08
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deltaonce1er, mmhh?08:08
cppnewbieyea cwillu i know whats written in there08:08
once1erPumpernickle: i've only had good experiences with it. haven't used the one he released for the 2.6.14 kernels in december though08:08
cppnewbiebeen there08:09
cwillusystem|administration|synaptic package manager08:09
cppnewbieive opened synaptic08:09
cppnewbiething is i dont find it in there anywhere08:09
once1erwhat are we looking for?08:09
PuMpErNiCkLeonce1er: I'll take your word for it - I don't have any ntfs drives to test it on. :)08:10
cwillucpp is following a guide on the web to install psptools08:10
once1erpumper: and you're a better person for it i'm sure08:10
sir_quickenI am using samba but cannot get anyting 2 work network wise, says ntlmsspprotocol being used & windows sows an error when I log into windowws 2k with it08:10
cppnewbiebut it says at the top to apt-get update && apt-get install foo but neither of these work08:10
cwillulol08:10
cwillu'foo' is a meta variable08:10
cppnewbieso that is?08:11
cwillui.e., if one of the commands they want you to use doesn't exist08:11
cwilluyou would replace foo with the command name08:11
oskude!foobar08:11
ubotuoskude: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:11
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cwillucppnewbie; maybe I can cut out a few steps here;  what are you trying to accomplish?08:12
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jbrouhardHowdy, everyone08:12
jbrouhardanyone here got ubuntu PPC ??08:12
zAo^sorry08:12
cwillusure I have it, just don't have any ppc machines to install it on :p08:12
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once1erjbrouhard: yes, whatcha wanna know?08:12
jbrouhardHeh08:12
oskudefubar = f**ked up beyond all recognition, lol08:12
jbrouhardJust need to know if it's possible for me to run Adobe Photoshop for the mac in ubuntu PPC08:13
once1erno08:13
jbrouhardor do i need to find an alternative ?08:13
jbrouharddamn08:13
cppnewbieinstalling the psptoolchain mostly, i know teh rest08:13
cppnewbiedone it on cygwin08:13
jbrouhard8sigh*08:13
once1erif you _need_ photoshop, you're SOL, but if you just need a powerful photo editor, Gimp2 is good once you get used to the interface08:13
jbrouhardI've used gimp in the past08:13
jbrouhardhowever, Photoshop is a requirement for the job08:13
jbrouhardDamnit08:13
jbrouhard<-- hates macOSX08:14
cwilluyou might take a look at just searching synaptic for psp and installing what looks interesting (or have you done that already?)08:14
zAo^leave linux dude: got same problem heren08:14
zAo^here *08:14
once1er<-- loves macOSX08:14
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cwillujbroome; might run under wine08:14
cwillubah08:14
cwillustupid nick completion08:14
jbrouhardhehe08:14
jbroometab complete fails you again!08:14
jbrouhardWell...08:14
jbrouhardI dunno if wine'd work08:14
cwillusemicolon actually :p08:14
jbrouhardDon't think there's a ppc version of Codeweavers yet08:14
cwillugah08:14
cwilluright08:14
once1erphotoshop runs under wine on x86, but like you have to have the right version of wine from december 2003 and you have to have photoshop build 1234 or some crazy combination (last i checked)08:14
zAo^it is possible but I got horrible performance... damn Adobe08:15
cwilluppc08:15
once1erand wine isn't available on PPC08:15
cwilluppc08:15
cwilluppc08:15
cwillustupid ppc08:15
oskudeppc is dead :)08:15
once1erdon't tell IBM08:15
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oskudeatleast for apple08:15
cwilluI don't think they care that much08:15
once1ernot really, they've got 3 machines08:15
zAo^PPC is not dead: check the p570 machines...08:15
cppnewbiehuh? oh yeah cwillu there isnt anything on08:15
oskudewell, you know what i mean...08:16
cwillupsp?08:16
cppnewbieya08:16
oskudei know theres others than apple that uses ppc08:16
cwillu?08:16
cppnewbieonly thing i came across was a perl interpreter lol :p08:16
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once1eroh yeah ppc is alive and well http://www.top500.org/lists/2005/11/basic08:16
klianIs it the same 'quotatool' than 'quota' ?08:16
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sir_quickencannel*08:17
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cppnewbieehm08:17
cppnewbie:p08:17
cwilludumb question, when I say perl server pages, are we talking about the same psp?08:17
sir_quickengeese I cant see in 1024x76808:17
oskudeor the css psp mod ? ;)08:18
cppnewbiecwillu in that link u noticed the same thing? lol?:p08:18
sir_quickennoww I got noticed what can I do 2 get windows 2000 & linux 2 comunicate using samba?08:18
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cppnewbieplay station portable developing, thats what it is :p08:18
dstryrhey, i accidentally removed Trash from the Panel, how do i get that back?08:18
sir_quickenI can see linux on windows & vise versa but cannot access it08:18
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cppnewbieif it were that easy such as synaptic i wouldve done it by now08:18
cwilluahhhhhhh08:18
oskudedstryr, ricght click on that panel and add..08:18
zAo^dstryr: right click on it >> add >> choose bin08:19
cppnewbiei always try synaptic for packages08:19
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cppnewbierofl08:19
dstryri dont see add08:19
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dstryroh nvm08:19
sir_quickenbrb shows bak on08:19
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oskudedstryr, :)08:19
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cwillum'thinks you need to double check that svn and the c tool chain are install via synaptic08:20
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carlo-ranyone tried install the BMW DIS software on Ubuntu or any Linux distribution?08:20
klianHow can I install 'quota' ?08:20
LjL-Awayklian: "sudo aptitude install quota"08:20
cppnewbielemme c08:20
oskudeklian, dont you get anything with "apt-cache show quota" ?08:21
carlo-ranyone at all? I really need this for a customer. he has all the software, but for some reason the OS software (SCO OpenServer) has issues with his AMD Turion6408:21
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oskudeklian, works here,  sudo apt-get -s install quota08:21
tonio_wenas08:21
oskudeklian, -s = simulate08:22
cppnewbiehehe didnt check svn packages *whistles unsuspiciously*08:22
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tonio_hay alguien x aqui08:22
LjL-Away!es08:22
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:22
klianroot@ubuntu:/etc# apt-cache search quota08:22
klianroot@ubuntu:/etc#08:22
cwillu:p08:22
LjL-Awayklian: quota is in main, so probably your repositories are setup incorrectly.08:22
LjL-Away!info quota08:22
ubotuquota: (implementation of the disk quota system), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.13-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 388 kB, Installed size: 1160 kB08:22
oskudeklian, try: sudo apt-get update and search again08:23
cwillulol, don't worry, you're reputation has already greatly improved from a php developer who's confused :)08:23
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cppnewbielol08:23
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carlo-rdoes ANYONE have experience with BMW DIS software?08:23
dstryr!info apache08:24
ubotuapache: (versatile, high-performance HTTP server), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.3.33-8 (breezy), Packaged size: 374 kB, Installed size: 804 kB08:24
klianLjL-Away, I have this in sources.list: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted08:24
cwillu"cwillu wonders what cpp's gonna think when he finds out psp isn't php" :)08:24
cppnewbielol cwillu im not that useless08:24
cppnewbie:p08:24
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cppnewbieaway piZzA and show on tv08:25
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dstryrhow do you install KDE theme? i tried installing it when it says invalid format, though i got the theme from kde official site08:25
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oskudedstryr, maybe a version conflict...08:25
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carlo-rare you all blind?08:25
oskudei would intepret that as answer "no"08:26
cwilluis there any better way to do the ms "dir *swap* /s" than ls -R|grep "swap" -r?08:26
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carlo-ratleast I get one question answered.08:26
cwilluwhere the -r is actually -i?08:26
PuMpErNiCkLecarlo-r: No, we just don't necessarily all know how to help you.08:26
oskudecarlo-r, if someone would have used that soft, he/she would have said it..08:26
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carlo-rwell then why didn't anyone just say no so I wouldn't have to annoy anyone??08:27
oskudecarlo-r, you want to see 600times no here ?08:27
cwillubecause then we'd have 697 responses saying no08:27
carlo-rand?08:27
PuMpErNiCkLecarlo-r: We don't all answer every question... if someone knows the answer, they'll tell you.  Otherwise, they won't clutter the channel uselessly.08:27
carlo-rpeople will drop it much quicker.08:27
oskude!spam08:27
ubotuoskude: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:27
carlo-rsometimes the fastest solution is the best.08:27
oskude!flood08:27
uboturumour has it, flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.08:27
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carlo-risn't someone asking the same question 100 times clutter?08:28
oskudecarlo-r, next time take silence as "no", or wait...08:28
trpr42carlo-r: no one is getting paid to sit here and answer questions (at least i don't think so). you ask a lot from a volunteer08:28
equadorwhy when i restart pc, fluxbox theme default... and all time08:28
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carlo-rI could've been more patient.08:28
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carlo-ryou volunteer, so do your job.08:28
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trpr42carlo-r: you are right about that.08:28
cwillucarlo-r, irc is a weird thing;  I find the easiest way to get an answer is to just shout out the question once in a while (10 minutes or so)08:29
trpr42carlo-r bye bye08:29
oskudecarlo-r, im pretty sure NOONE has ever heard about that software08:29
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nickrudflol, carlo-r you ever run any kind of a non profit that uses volunteers? (obviously not)08:29
equadori change fluxbox theme, but, when i restart pc, fluxbox theme been default... and all time08:29
carlo-rlol..no one has ever heard of BMW?08:29
once1erI actually am getting paid to sit here and answer questions... Just don't tell my boss08:29
equador?08:29
carlo-ryou know, the car..08:29
carlo-rdumbasses08:29
oskudecarlo-r, and that soft doesnt have anything to do with ubuntu, or ?08:29
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cwilluguys, flamage ain't gonna help here, even if he's flaming himself :p08:29
carlo-rhas everything to do with Linux08:29
carlo-rUbuntu is a distribution of Linux08:29
once1erbut bmw isn't08:30
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carlo-rso, they're very related08:30
carlo-rbut this software is.08:30
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cwilluyay08:30
oskudecarlo-r, hmm, cant compute, try the mailing list of the soft...08:30
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Spec!anyone08:31
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>08:31
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Spec...08:31
cwillualthough I feel an old compulsion to google bmw nis08:31
Specthere are 690 people, if half of them used software X, do you really want them all saying "I do!"08:31
Psykusanyone have a clue why unreal tournament 2004 would have no sound, unless I launched it from a terminal?08:31
once1erhaha08:31
gugu#ubuntu-fi08:31
once1ernext person that asks if we use software X, i think we should all respond in unison. that would be fun08:32
Spechey08:32
Speci have a question for everyone08:32
Specdoes anyone here use bash?08:32
cwillume!08:32
once1eryes08:32
djpwhy would a tray icon not show up, even though the app appears to be running and if i right click in the panel it appears the icon is there but invisible!?08:32
Specoh god08:32
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Spec:p08:32
PuMpErNiCkLeSpec: yes08:32
PuMpErNiCkLe:D08:32
Speci don't actually want answers, please, no, not 500 of them08:32
once1erwe didn't really pull that one together08:32
cwilluhmm, disappointing, only 5 :)08:32
once1erwe'll have to work on it08:32
oskudeSpec, :)08:32
Psykusi created a shortcut to it in gnome, and when I use that, there's no sound, however, when I navigate to the directory and do ./ut2004 , the sound works08:32
Specgotta get a, uhh, 'patch' into irssi08:32
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once1erPsykus: does the shortcut properly set the working directory?08:33
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KaleoHello08:33
once1ermaybe it looks in the current working direcotyr for sound files, and can't find them because its set to ~ or something08:33
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Psykussui'm not sure08:34
Psykuserm08:34
Psykus- su08:34
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Psykusok, the shortcut that the game created works fine, i'll just use that one and delete the one I made08:36
christopheri have problems with ndiswrapper/ndisgtk.. ndisgtk won't even start, it says "Failed to load GTK bindings. Please check your Gnome installation." even though all dependecies are met. any ideas?08:36
once1erwell if you want that shortcut somewhere else, you could make a shortcut to the shortcut08:36
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dstryrwhat's the file extentsion of KDE theme?08:37
Psykusit's fine, I just moved it...for some reason, the installer created the shortcut in the "Other" menu for some reason, instead of "Games"08:37
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once1erbecause they don't like you and don't want you to be able to play the sweet game you just bought08:38
Psykusheh08:38
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Psykuswish more games had linux support like this :|08:38
oskudedstryr, i doubt there is one, as i assume that they a just packed directiories with definition and image files...08:38
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once1erI'd feel the same way, but at this point I'm kind of addicted to those "Tank" and "Worms" genre of games. And those things are everywhere. Its quite pathetic. Got a 360 sitting my bedroom, and i'm playing physics games on my TI8908:39
eobanbcan anyone help me with dual-booting....i have two IDE hard drives, ubuntu is on the master and XP is on the slave.  i have the bios set to boot from the master, where grub is installed, but when i choose xp from the list, it just sits there.08:39
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eobanbubuntu is on (hd0,0), xp is on (hd1,0)08:40
eobanbshould be straightforward...done this lots of times before..08:40
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Gambixhi to all08:40
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maltHello i installed proftpd on my linux pc and its running apache with php and webmin and ftp well proftpd but it is very slow and everything else hosted on my linux seems to be fast but the ftp is only one that is giving me this slow problem is there a setting i can change or anything to help make it go faster?08:40
Gambixi need help on installing eagleusb modem...08:40
once1ereobanb: are you using chainloader +1 or whatever it is?08:40
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eobanbonce1er, yes.08:40
JonningsI cant find my ".emacs" file (it doesnt exist), how can i make one + write to it?08:40
oskudeeobanb, hmm, do you have "boot" as last " command" ?08:41
eobanbyes08:41
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once1ereobanb: maybe the boot record has been stripped off the xp partition08:41
oskudeeobanb, and you get no error messages ?08:41
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eobanbwell, when i set the bios to boot directly from the windows drive, it can boot windows.08:41
eobanbit just doesnt work from grub.08:41
once1ereobanb: oh08:41
eobanbno error messages, after it says 'boot' it just sits there.08:41
Gambixdoes someone have already success on installing sagem f@st 800 on dapper ?08:42
oskudeeobanb, dunno if still needed, but does the windows partition have the "boot option" ?08:42
once1ereobanb: the boot record for the windows machine might not actually reside on hd(1,0)08:42
cppnewbie:D08:42
Khan_Kubratplease, can you help me with Kaffeine player???08:42
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eobanbonce1er, what would i do to find out08:42
once1erits possible its on hd(0,0) and scans the devices for other stuff?08:42
eobanbhow can it be 0,0 when that's my linux drive?08:42
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oskudeactually i desided not to help on windose, but the question was so good made :)08:43
succubus__hey, how would i get apache to interpret .php and .phtml files08:43
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linuxamoeba21hello08:43
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KrillancelloI'm thinking of trying to learn programming, most likely with C/++ and Java. Does anyone have any suggestions for what to install? (Keep in mind the main purpose of this is to LEARN to program.)08:44
oskudesuccubus__, you define them in httpd.conf (or was it mimetypes.conf)08:44
scottjwhat should I use to load my RSA key for ssh into memory and ask for the passphrase once every time I log in?08:44
once1ereobanb: hmm, well, i know when SATA drives get setup for XP they need to have the boot record on the first IDE drive (if both are installed), maybe they require that the first drive have the boot record in _any_ configureation?08:44
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oskudesuccubus__, or wait, did you istall php ?08:44
linuxamoeba21i'm having a problem with amarok -- it just stopped working yesterday. it hangs on startup, uses 100% processor for a while, then i get a knotify crash dialog... any ideas?08:44
aftertaf!lvm08:44
ubotuI guess lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/08:44
SpecKrillancello: if you want to learn how to program, then you should learn python08:44
succubus__yes, i think it's httpd.conf, i couldn't remember the file name.08:44
succubus__oskude, i did install php08:44
KrillancelloSpec: Why's that?08:44
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eobanbonce1er, i have no sata drives or anything like that08:44
oskudesuccubus__, if you install php4 in should add them automaticly08:44
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SpecKrillancello: it's very useful on linux, and easier to learn08:44
succubus__it was php508:44
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oskudesuccubus__, from ubuntu repos ?08:45
once1ereobanb: i guess i'm not really sure why its happening. I've always heard that its _way_ easier to setup windows on the primary drive. Guess this is why. lemme think about it for a few minutes08:45
SpecKrillancello: wait a few more seconds and i'll give you an online tutorial my teacher wrote08:45
KrillancelloSpec: The ease of learning a language has no impact on me. If I want to, I can learn it regardless.08:45
succubus__oskude,  i couldn't say for sure08:45
ericmoritz\0hi, how do I get my gtk theme settings to be loaded when I use a different window manage than gnome08:45
eobanball right, thanks, once1er08:45
oskudesuccubus__, if not, you may have to add the module and mimetype(s) yourself08:45
succubus__i installed it through synaptic, but i also have other repos.08:45
succubus__okay, that's fine.08:45
KrillancelloSpec: Also, I'm looking for what to install. IDE, compiler, documentation...08:46
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once1ereobanb: oh i just had a thought, you can actually use the windows boot loader to load linux08:46
oskudesuccubus__, do you have apache 1.3 or 2.x ?08:46
once1erif thats a way you might want to go08:46
SpecKrillancello: for python, install idle and python2.4, it's an interpreted language so it doesn't need to be compiled08:46
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Specit's probably already installed on your system08:47
eobanbonce1er, i've never worked with it before, really.08:47
klianWhen I type: apt-cache search quota . It gives me a list of programs, but not the 'quota' program. Anyone can pass me his repositories ?08:47
ardchoillefor anyone who uses natuilus scripts, I have a new one that may be helpful to you. It opens a dialog to ask for the path and then opens nautilus for that path: http://pastebin.com/58237508:47
aftertafdf -h08:47
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once1ereobanb: http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html08:47
t1nkkar1#ubuntu08:47
aftertafdoh08:47
KrillancelloSpec: Is the Python documentation installable, or is it online?08:47
once1erwow, something good actually came from a geocities site?!08:47
t1nkkar1hello08:47
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succubus__oskude, 2.x08:47
cwilluanyone think of a reason why mozilla would still be running (incl using cpu) even after I've closed the last window?08:48
DistroWatchis there a gui available for tor via apt ?08:48
once1ereobanb: it basically consists of copying the head off of your /boot partition, and giving it to windows08:48
Gambixdoes someone have already success on installing sagem f@st 800 on dapper ?08:48
SpecKrillancello: http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/08:48
dstryrwhat's the file extentsion of KDE theme?08:48
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oskudesuccubus__, ok, dont have any apache2 (yet) so dunno if the configs have changed08:48
SpecKrillancello: it's most certaintly online, and there probably is documentation that's installable08:48
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oskudesuccubus__, be sure you install apache2-mod-php5 too08:48
succubus__yep08:48
oskudesuccubus__, if its called so08:48
Specthat tuitorial (even though the colours suck :p) is pretty good08:48
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t1nkkar1Could someone advice me howto get the "advancedd" mode on in ubuntu, gnome..08:49
DistroWatch!tor08:49
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DistroWatch08:49
once1ert1nkkar1: a, b, a, b, up, down, up, down, select, start08:49
SpecKrillancello: if you learn python first, you'll be able to learn other languages with even more ease, :)08:49
oskudesuccubus__, i love this site (mostly should work with ubuntu) http://www.debian-administration.org/tag08:50
linuxamoeba21i think i got my problem solved -- it appears as though the new amarok 1.4 automatically downloads cover art for your entire music collection without notifying the user =P08:50
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marinusmay i ask how do you work out encryted dvd in ubuntu08:50
succubus__oskude, thanks.. i will check it out.08:50
dstryrwhat's the file extentsion of KDE theme?08:50
KrillancelloSpec: The problem with that is that once I were to learn Python, if I went on to learn other languages, I'd still need to know what compilers/editors/documentation to install.08:50
succubus__oskude, looks very useful08:51
oskudesuccubus__, and if your gonna run well known php apps, be sure to have something like this http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/6508:51
t1nkkar1i dont get you onceler..been quite a while since ive been around08:51
SpecKrillancello: that's not too hard to find out, the harder part is learning how to program08:51
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SpecKrillancello: there's how to think like a computer scientist books for c++ and java, though08:51
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KrillancelloSpec: I'm not your ordinary computer geek. I find learning to program easier than figuring out what I need to program.08:52
muepmarinus: libdvdcss08:52
cwillukrill; every language is different08:52
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succubus__oskude, alrighty... thanks again.   --i gotta get packing to head home break. see ya around08:52
Spechehe, well, for python you need python2.4, for c you need gcc, for c++ you need g++, etc etc08:52
mongohi all - just setup 5.10 with Samba and NFS shares but I can't log in to my SMB from Windows XP Pro - it just won't accept my credentials...what can i check?08:52
cwillueven within the languages, setting it up can be different depending on what you're working on08:52
oskudesuccubus__, cu08:52
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stianHey, I have a question, it's not linux related, but still. When I do a search for my name on google, Konqueror and Opera shows my site as the first result, but when I do it in FF, im not even listed on the first page...whats up with that? How does it work?08:52
marinusinstalled libdvdcss still it did not work thanks for your response08:53
Specstian: clear your cache perhaps08:53
KrillancelloSpec: There are like four versions of both gcc and g++ in my package list. Not having programmed before, I don't know which one I would want.08:53
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oskudestian, google use "localisation" so be sure your really using the same google.x08:53
KrillancelloCorrection, not having programmed in C/++.08:53
cwilluKrillancello; what do you want to program?08:53
Krillancello>_>;08:53
cppnewbieis there a command for searching through console?08:53
muepKrillancello: pick the newest?08:53
SpecKrillancello: any of them would compile your program, most likely :p08:53
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SpecKrillancello: whichever one's name makes you feel the happiest :p08:53
KrillancelloSpec: But there would usually be a suggested one over the others.08:54
Specnewest i suppose?08:54
oskudei noticed that ever google.x gives different results (even when NOT searching in "home" language")08:54
marinusam actually a newbie and maybe just did not do it right the installing of libdvdcss08:54
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muepthe older ones are there for compatibility08:54
PuMpErNiCkLecppnewbie: locate, mebbe?08:54
cppnewbiehmm :p08:54
HappyFoolKrillancello: i'd recommend installing the build-essential package; it includes g++, gcc and related header files etc.08:54
stianah, that explains it, when i use .NO, (im norwegian) i dont display, but with .com i do.08:54
KrillancelloFor example, PHP5 is suggested if you want bleeding-edge PHP support; PHP4 if you are concerned with it Just Working.08:54
stianokay08:54
stianthanks08:54
PuMpErNiCkLecppnewbie: It depends what you're searching for.08:54
nosilver4uhow can i listen to a winamp-style radio station in ubuntu?08:55
muepmarinus: check private msgs08:55
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cppnewbiehow can i cd to directories that have a gap? :S08:55
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marinusdont even understand why if i follow the command as written in some support chat like #tar etc...i will get bash no command as tar so i get crossed08:55
omatunto_Hi, I'm getting a Mac Mini today, but I don't have an external display.08:55
oskudestian, i use "google.com/en"08:55
PuMpErNiCkLecppnewbie: cd /path/to/directory\ name/08:55
marinuswhat is private msgs08:55
omatunto_I was wondering if I can install Ubuntu blind.08:55
scottjwhat should I use to load my RSA key for ssh into memory and ask for the passphrase once every time I log in?08:55
PuMpErNiCkLecppnewbie: ie, put a \ in front of the space08:55
eobanbomatunto_, not likely.08:55
cppnewbieaha08:55
omatunto_Has anyone any experience doing it or any suggestions?08:56
muepmarinus: I sent you one08:56
eobanbomatunto_, additionally, ubuntu doesnt yet work on intel macs.08:56
muepmarinus: this channel is a bit too crowded for me08:56
cppnewbieworked, you rule :p08:56
PuMpErNiCkLe:)08:56
omatunto_eobanb, that's a ppc mac.08:56
oskudeomatunto_, i know its possible to use a serial output as terminal, but i never done that08:56
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muepmarinus: query me08:56
omatunto_Is it possible to get the install process running over ssh?08:56
eobanbomatunto_, uhm, the powerpc mac minis have been discontinued, i highly suggest you swap it for an intel one08:57
oskudeomatunto_, yes, theres an option to load that module (atleas on debian)08:57
trpr42cppnewbie: give tab a try too .. autocompletion is convenient for those directories with spaces in their name08:57
omatunto_eobanb, I got this one fairly cheap just for that reason.08:57
cppnewbieno need i did it :D08:57
eobanbokay, never mind then.08:57
marinuslike ive said im a newbie so i have no real idea about this things sorry08:57
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oskudeomatunto_, but to select that you need an monitor :) (AFAIK)08:57
muepmarinus: type /query muep08:57
muepin irc08:58
eobanbomatunto_, i would just go and find some cheap monitor08:58
eobanbany vga monitor should do the trick08:58
oskudeomatunto_, i think your better of with debian, theres propably some images that initialises automaticly a "ssh installation"08:58
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omatunto_eobanb, yes that's most likely the easiest solution08:58
eobanbomatunto_, i assume you'll be using this as a server08:58
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omatunto_eobanb, yes, thats true.08:59
eobanbomatunto_, then you'll want to do the server install of ubuntu08:59
omatunto_eobanb, printing, subversion and files most likely08:59
kbrooksomatunto_, for svn08:59
muepmarinus: can you join another channel then?08:59
kbrooksapt-get install subversion subversion-tools08:59
oskudeomatunto_, there a ways to install linux wihtout monitor, but dunno how easy that is wihtout knowledge.. (never done that too, but would love to know)08:59
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madmikedoes anyone know if dapper will have firefox 1.5 installed, standardwise?09:00
eobanbmadmike, yes09:00
muepmadmike: it will have it09:00
omatunto_eobanb, if I could make any sort of bootable installation with right partitions and sshd, I can customize the installation afterwards.09:00
marinusi was in another channel after typing that query thing but i did not get any answer09:00
marinusso what channel must i join09:00
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eobanbomatunto_, it would be WAY easier to just find a freaking monitor, dude09:00
omatunto_oskude, I guess I try to use some fairly graphical installation walkthrough and just select the defaults...09:01
oskudeomatunto_, maybe there are some netboot images that automaticly install debia base..09:01
dstryrwhat's the file extentsion of KDE theme?09:01
muepmarinus: /join #helppp09:01
dstryris it .desktop?09:01
omatunto_Then Alt+F2 and login, apt-get install sshd09:01
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madmikeeobanb, muep: good news :)09:01
oskudeomatunto_, for server i would highly remonned debian and this http://www.debian-administration.org/09:01
oskude*recommend09:01
oskudeomatunto_, not because debian is better or such, just because debian is used alot longer than ubuntu, so you find better info/help...09:03
omatunto_oskude, ok, perhaps that is wise...09:03
oskudeomatunto_, are you from finnland, your name is funny :)09:03
cwilludoes bash provide a way to change how tab completion works?09:03
omatunto_oskude, Finland, yes. :-)09:03
dstryrhow come yall don't answer?09:03
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oskudeomatunto_, ok :)09:04
cwilludstryr; 'cause we dpm09:04
cwillubah09:04
marinuswas in the help group but i did not see anyone09:04
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cwillustupid enter key09:04
cwillu'cause we don't know09:04
Ratty_hi guys09:04
muepmarinus: that's strange...09:04
mongohi all - just setup 5.10 with Samba and NFS shares but I can't log in to my SMB from Windows XP Pro - it just won't accept my credentials...what can i check?09:04
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muepmarinus: are you on another network?09:04
dstryrwhat's the cmd again to make you choose if you want gdm or kdm ?09:04
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seraphimsudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm/gdm should do it09:05
jdlFATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device09:05
jdlWhich /dev is it really looking for?09:05
jdlI've got a bunch of /dev/nvidia<n> and nvidiactl09:05
marinuswhat do you mean another network09:05
Ratty_i'm trying to use 1280x768 on my monitor, but i can't get X to even attempt to use it. it will try 1600x1200 no probem though. i'm using the fglrx (ati) drivers, and have 1280x768 specified in my display's mode list, any ideas on what the cause could be?09:06
muepmarinus: we are now on an irc network named freenode09:06
marinusyou mean the ubuntu network? have no idea???09:06
dstryrwhich one would you prefer, seraphim?09:06
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muepmarinus: there are other networks, though, like quakenet or ircnet09:06
trappistjdl: if you've got those, maybe you already have the driver loaded? lsmod | grep nvidia09:07
Ratty_the gnome res change dialog doesn't even .ist 1280x76809:07
gleesondwhy does my $PS1 keep getting changed back to the default?09:07
seraphimi keep with the standard mostly, so gdm09:07
marinusyes i see it there is this x-chat with09:07
trappistgleesond: check /etc/profile09:07
muepmarinus: try to connect to quakenet09:07
marinusmarinus@brown.freenode.net09:07
muepand join #helppp there09:07
oskudeomatunto_, is your server going to be public ?09:07
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omatunto_oskude, not really, possibly ssh open to the wide net09:07
jdllsmod shows no nvidia already.09:07
dstryrseraphim, have you ever changed your theme?09:08
marinushow do you do that quakenet wait ill check09:08
seraphimyes09:08
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dstryrif so, where do you get gnome themes?09:08
seraphimjust download a package at gnome-look.org09:08
Zoroastergood day mates09:08
muepmarinus: there is a way to connect to many networks at once09:08
oskudeomatunto_, ok. just wanted to know if you let php accesible from net.. as there are so many script kiddies outthere (i know, i had one a week ago:)09:08
gleesondtrappist: is this the default for all users?09:08
muepI am installing xchat to take a look myself09:09
trappistgleesond: for all users who use bash, ash, sh or ksh09:09
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marinushow as i see in the internet applications there is only that irc thing no quakenet09:09
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muepmarinus: yes but in xchat menus09:10
gleesondah09:10
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muepthere in upper left09:10
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stockholmso how can i compile kernel modules if there is only a gcc-4.0 and the kernel is compiled with gcc-3.4?09:10
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dstryrseraphim, how do you install after you've downloaded the tarball09:10
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omatunto_oskude, running too much services may bite you :-)09:10
LjLstockholm: i suppose you could install gcc-3.409:10
oskudebtw. i remember yellow dog linux saying they wont change to intel apple ;)09:10
stockholmLjL: it is not on the cd09:11
LjLstockholm: is gcc 4 on the cd? thought not09:11
seraphimit's all in german here :D somewhere in the system-settings09:11
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stockholmLjL: 4.0 is installed by default09:11
seraphimyou can install new themes for the login-screen09:11
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LjLstockholm: uh? not as far as i know!09:11
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maltHello i installed proftpd on my linux pc and its running apache with php and webmin and ftp well proftpd but it is very slow and everything else hosted on my linux seems to be fast but the ftp is only one that is giving me this slow problem is there a setting i can change or anything to help make it go faster?09:11
oskudeomatunto_, it was just my fault, not having updated the php apps (and didnt have any IDS)09:11
Zoroastersometimes when I have apps open like and I move them to another workspace, they dissappear09:11
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oskudeomatunto_, but the bot just wanted to do some spamming, didnt even get real acces to the system09:12
Zoroasterthey disappear to me, but appear to still ru somewhere?09:12
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ddonkyis it possible/easy to use my integrated soundcard for voip, and at the same time use my pci soundcard for everything else?09:12
Zoroasterlike just now, my vmware is gone, it's in no workspace, but I can't open my virtualmachine up, because the files have locks on them09:13
LjLstockholm: anyway can't you connect to the internet? (sorry but i was away till a minute ago, i have missed the whole story)09:13
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oskudeddonky, i have onboard audio and a usb headset, works like a charm like you said09:13
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ddonkyoskude - my head set has mic/audio jacks09:14
oskudeddonky, i use my onboard /dev/snd for all and /dev/snd1 (usb headset) for skype09:14
stockholmLjL: right, i need to compile a newer madwifi, aparently09:14
ddonkyahhh, ok09:14
wavemhzhtpp://www.wavemhz.cba.pl09:14
mongohi all - just setup 5.10 with Samba and NFS shares but I can't log in to my SMB from Windows XP Pro - it just won't accept my credentials...what can i check?09:14
wavemhzKto z Polski??09:14
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oskudeddonky, if they are propebly installed you should have 2 /dev/snd devices09:14
pmja z Polski09:15
ddonkyoskude - how do i set that up? i dont think my pci card is even working right now09:15
pmwavemhz, a co?09:15
oskudeddonky, im very lousy wiht linux and sound, thats why i use ubuntu as it found all automaticly :) but09:15
ClayGanyone using GGZ?09:15
oskudeddonky, you could start with "lspci" and see if you pci sound card is regoniced09:15
LjLstockholm: must say so far i haven't ever compiled a module for ubuntu (well, except one, but module-assistant did it automatically, and i had gcc 3.4 anyway)09:15
oskude!sound09:16
ubotuI heard sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary09:16
stockholmdang...09:16
oskudeddonky, try those09:16
cppnewbieis avi playback embedded in ubuntu from installation or its yap(yet another package)?09:16
ddonkyok lspci shows my pci card09:16
LjLstockholm: but really, just get gcc 3.4 i suppose. and if you don't have internet access, you can still get it from another box, though you'll have to be a bit careful to get the dependencies as well09:16
ddonkyok09:16
oskudeddonky, and look in ubuntuforums with your soundcard09:16
oskudeddonky, ubuntuforums.org09:16
LjLstockholm: well actually gcc-3.4 seems to only depend on cpp-3.4, the rest of the dependencies you should have already installed09:17
ddonkyi have a dev/snd , but no /dev/snd109:17
LjLstockholm: (and cpp-3.4 itself doesn't seem to depend on anything that you should not already have)09:18
cwilluis there any way to make bash use hippie-style completion (emacs style?)09:18
Ratty_i'm trying to use 1280x768 on my monitor, but i can't get X to even attempt to use it. it will try 1600x1200 no probem though. i'm using the fglrx (ati) drivers, and have 1280x768 specified in my display's mode list, any ideas on what the cause could be?09:18
stockholmLjL: i only have gcc 3.3 and 4.0 on the cd.09:18
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LjLRatty_: 1280x768? that sounds like quite a strange mode09:18
stockholmLjL: while the compiler the kernel is compiled with seems to be 3.409:18
cwilluwidescreen?09:18
ZarephathWhere did grub.conf go on Ubuntu..I have no clue since I can't find it in /boot/grub/grub.conf09:19
LjLstockholm: ok, but as i said, if you have internet access on that linux box, i don't see the problem -- and if you don't, you can still get it from another machine09:19
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stockholmLjL: i dont hvae internet access without the wifi card09:19
CyorxampIf I don't want to use the bog standard 'ati' driver - and use something better... what can I use given i have a Rage 128 Pro Ultra !?09:19
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LjLstockholm: right, but don't you have a USB key, or a cd burner, or something that you can use to get the stuff to the machine?09:20
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Belea_gdesklets how can i set it back ?  not on top ?09:21
Ratty_yeah it's widescreen09:21
LjLRatty_: have you tried leaving it as the *only* available mode in your xorg.conf?09:21
Ratty_it will fallback to 1024x768 ok, or attempt something too high, but refuses to try 1280x76809:21
Ratty_yup09:21
oskudeCyorxamp, you could try "r128"09:21
Ratty_it seems to try 2000xsomething09:21
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Cyorxamposkude - think thats riva :S09:22
oskudeCyorxamp, see "man r128" for more info (like supported chips)09:22
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oskudeCyorxamp, man sais rage09:22
cppnewbiewhats the delete command for ubuntu?09:22
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cppnewbiecommand line style09:22
LjL!tell cppnewbie about cli09:23
Ratty_cppnewbie: rm?09:23
cppnewbieaha09:23
Ratty_for remove09:23
Ratty_man builtin09:23
LjLRatty_: maybe try using a modeline09:23
Peciskis anyone else expierencing lockups with Dapper/2.6.15/nvidia module?09:23
Ratty_i did try a modeline but who knows if it was right09:23
mongocan anyone see this?09:23
Ratty_mongo: no09:23
LjLRatty_: http://www.dkfz-heidelberg.de/spec/linux/modeline/ <- i know of this page to generate modelines, though i'm afraid it doesn't list the resolution you need09:23
mongono?09:24
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Ratty_i'll t ry something else09:24
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LjLRatty_: also you could try the "videogen" packages, which can generate modelines for you, though it's not too easy to use (at least for me)09:24
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] BreliC[anyone here using an nForce4 board with Breezy?09:25
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ZoroasterI am running 5.10 Breezy I guess it's called, and I still have so many questions, but one question is, I see 4 workspaces, but can I have more?  how?09:26
xerophyteis there anyway i can configure the acpi in the kernel configuration ???09:26
oskudeZoroaster, yes, try right click on the worspace switcher09:26
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] BreliC[Zoroaster, right click on the workspace icons on the taskbar, choose Preferences09:26
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mongo456ahi all - just setup 5.10 with Samba and NFS shares but I can't log in to my SMB from Windows XP Pro - it just won't accept my credentials...what can i check?09:27
] BreliC[i was wondering if anyone was running an nForce4 board and managed to get USB2 to work09:27
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LjLmongo456a: suppose you've used "smbpasswd"?09:27
Ratty_hmm09:27
] BreliC[i have an MSI AMD64 nforce4 board, and i can only get as fast as USB1.109:27
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Ratty_a modeline fixed it for one monitor, i'll try it on the one it's ment to use now09:27
CuriosCatnforce drivers are troublesome in linux in general09:27
dancingmonkey] BreliC[, check the BIOS?\09:27
] BreliC[i saw that there are drivers on the nvidia site, but I read elsewhere that it breaks alsa09:27
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davidhousewhat packages do i need to be able to play wmv files?09:27
mongo456aLjl: didn't know i had to...never had to on other distros09:27
mentesupremaDoes anyone know a way to install Solaris 10 in the same disk with a Linux partition?09:27
] BreliC[dancingmonkey, it works fine in windows09:27
CuriosCatnvidia doesn't like to document their hardware09:27
CuriosCatand afaik their linux drivers are binary only09:28
] BreliC[hmm09:28
oskudebrelic, sure your device can more than 1.1 ?09:28
LjLmongo456a: really? as far as i know, smbpasswd is always needed unless you do some weird configuration to make samba "sync" with the system passwords09:28
] BreliC[oskude, yes09:28
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LjLmongo456a: though i've only used debian and ubuntu really09:28
majdhey, i downloaded a program off of bittorrent, but have no idea how to install/unpack/burn....it has 15 zip files...install notes just say to unpack and install....it says to use keymaker which i have no idea what it is.09:28
oskudebrelic then i would read if the driver can more than 1.1 (but dunno where)09:28
mongo456aLjl: other distros must sync cuz i haven't had to...got a doc explaining smbpasswd?09:28
oskude!samba09:29
ubotusomebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently09:29
] BreliC[oskude, well, as i said, there *is* a driver, but i've read on forums that it breaks alsa09:29
trappistmajd: please take your warez questions elsewhere.09:29
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mongo456aubotu: thanks09:29
ubotumongo456a: sure thing09:29
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] BreliC[i was just wondering if anyone here had experience with it09:29
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Stormx2Anyone built the GAIM beta 2?09:29
ddonkyso, if i load the module for my pci soundcard, will it automagically create is in /dev/snd1 the next time i boot?09:30
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LjLmongo456a: well, as far as i remember you should just "smbpasswd <username>", and set a password09:30
majdtrappist, :(09:30
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mentesupremaI have a Radeon 9200 which is fully supported09:30
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cppnewbiehehe is that cwillu guy here? :D09:30
oskudebrelic, sry cant help :(09:30
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mentesupremaWhat I haven't tried with my Dell 600m is the IrDA and modem, everything else is great09:30
JeReMHello all !09:30
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ddonkyhi09:31
polpakhi09:31
davidhousewhat packages do i need to be able to play wmv files?09:31
oskude!wmv09:31
ubotuI heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats09:31
Belea_gdesklets to not be on top ? Thx09:31
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cppnewbie!avi09:32
ubotuI heard avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:32
cppnewbielol09:32
cppnewbieaha09:32
cppnewbieso its got many formats09:32
davidhouseoskude, cppnewbie, cheers09:32
cppnewbiehehe its not like i did anything09:32
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cppnewbiehad to find how avis playback lol09:33
Ratty_it's attempting 1280x768 but the refresh rate is wrong, my monitor only handles 60hz, and it saying out of range :|09:33
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LjLRatty_: that's certainly fixed with the right modeline. the problem is finding the right modeline.09:33
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smallfoot-startkeylogger09:34
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LjLRatty_: do give videogen a try, if you have your monitor's user guide handy ('cause it will need to know max/min sync rates, and that kind of stuff)09:34
smallfoot-:(09:34
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Ratty_my modeline is: Modeline        "1280x768_60.00"  80.14  1280 1344 1480 1680  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync09:34
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KrillancelloIs there a package available in Ubuntu for setting a different wallpaper/background for each workspace?09:35
LjLRatty_: that doesn't really tell me anything, first because i'm far from a modeline guru, and second because the correct modeline really depends on your monitor09:35
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Ratty_hmm09:35
Ratty_i just used a command line tool that asked for res and refresh rate09:35
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MalFalHello all09:36
Ratty_i don't have a clue what the numbers mean09:36
LjLRatty_: that tool is probably making wrong assumptions on your monitor's parameters then09:36
Ratty_yeah09:36
LjLRatty_: me neither, honestly.09:36
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Ratty_i'll see if it has more options09:36
polpakRatty_, you can try CTRL-ALT-F1 to get to the console, and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:36
MalFalIs there anyone who can help me with an issue I'm having with an intel 2200bg mini-pci card?09:36
manickais anyone using this new sys info plugin for xchat in dapper?09:36
LjLRatty_: see that, or try videogen, which definitely asks for monitor parameters. of course, you do have to know them09:37
Ratty_polpak: yes and that would send me back to the start09:37
polpakubotu tell MalFal about anyone09:37
Ratty_i do know them09:37
ddonkyaplay -l, shows both the inte intergrated sound and the aureal pci card09:37
SpecCan you switch your default audio card (if you have two) while booted?09:38
MalFalThanks polpak, I now know.  lol09:38
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scottjanyone use screen as their default shell? what arguments do you pass to it?09:38
tdnHow do I play DivX and XviD movies in Ubuntu?09:38
polpakMalFal, so what is the problem you're having?09:38
Spectdn: install vlc09:38
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tdnDo I need some Win32 codecs?09:38
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Ratty_hooray for apt-get09:38
tdnSpec, apt-get install vlc?09:38
MalFalI have a system with an intel 2200bg mini-pci card that I can't seem to connect to my network for the life of me.09:38
Specshould be09:38
LjL!tell tdn about restrictedformats09:38
Specvlc is the best media player available, (in my opinion)09:39
ddonkyhmmm lsmod shows the au88xx module loaded09:39
MalFalIt sees the WLAN essid, but seems to refuse to connect09:39
=== oskude vote goes for mplayer...
Specddonky: what's your problem?09:39
Specmplayer's alright :)09:39
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KrillancelloIs there a package available in Ubuntu for setting a different wallpaper/background for each workspace?09:39
Speckde supports it, not sure what you'd use in gnome09:40
SpecKrillancello: ^^09:40
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ddonkySpec, i'm trying to get my integrated sound for voip only, and my pci card for everything else09:40
Specah09:40
KrillancelloSpec: I've used wallpapoz before, but I wanted to see if it (or an alternative) was readily available before getting it.09:40
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tavanciniguys, i am curious about the codnames of ubuntu... anyone know why ubuntu releases have clever names?09:41
tavancinilike dapper drake, breezy badger...09:41
ddonkyi think i'm going to open 'er up and check the cabling09:41
KrillancelloBecause *nix geeks are clever?09:41
oskudetavancini, allmost all linux distros have "names"09:41
Ratty_there's gnome-vlc if your're so inclined09:41
Specddonky:  you've looked at the .asoundrc documentation?09:41
ddonkySpec, no. Where is it?09:42
tavancinibut for example... debian releases is based on the toy story movie...09:42
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xophErIs lm-sensors 2.10.0 going to be included in dapper? This would really be appreciated..09:42
LjLRatty_: that's a dummy package that just installs the now standard wxVLC09:42
oskudetavancini, ah you mean the origin of the names in ubuntu ?09:42
LjLRatty_: same for KVLC (assuming it still exists even as a dummy package)09:42
tavanciniyeah!09:42
Specddonky: http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards09:42
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tdnThen how do I play wmv/wma files and streams from the internet like this one: http://www.dr.dk/Forms/Published/PlaylistGen.aspx?qid=16139009:42
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oskudetavancini, would like to know too :)09:42
Specddonky: http://alsa.opensrc.org/   <-- lots of information09:42
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tavancinihahahah09:43
oskude!ubuntu_name09:43
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, oskude09:43
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oskude:)09:43
ddonkySpec - thanks!09:43
CanadianSnowSo is there any way to get amsn 0.95 on ubuntu?09:43
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Speccrossover office?09:43
hypnoticIs it possible to update from 5.04 to 5.10 ubuntu just from console?09:43
CanadianSnowbecause I used to have it, but then it got messed up, and I tryied to re-install it and now it doesn't work or something :(09:43
muephypnotic: yes09:44
Ratty_hypnotic: editing the sources.list file and just update as normal09:44
LjL!tell hypnotic about breezy09:44
CanadianSnowbrb, will read any pms or name highlights09:44
polpak!amsn09:44
ubotuwell, amsn is at http://amsn.sourceforge.net09:44
Specoh, nevermind09:44
Krillancellognome-app-install lists aMSN...09:44
polpak!info amsn09:45
ubotuamsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB09:45
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LjLthere is aMSN 0.94 in the standard breezy reps. 0.95 is only on the official site - but there is a specific ubuntu version09:45
polpakSo if you want .95 you'll need to get the source or a deb from them09:45
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zoexiihello, I have questions about migrating to a new hard drive...  Firstly, the new one is SATA, and I wonder how I should jumper my optical drive (as master yes?)  Secondly, I would prefer to directly copy partition scheme & contents of current drive to new drive as opposed to reinstalling Ubuntu and copying personal files...09:45
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LjLzoexii: if the new drive isn't the same size as the old one, you can't just copy the partition table09:46
LjL(and i'm not sure you can even if it is)09:46
virguleI need a translation of this. http://pastebin.com/58246409:46
Krillancellozoexii: IDE (with regular ribbon data cables) and SATA drives are recognized completely differently under *nix. IDE devices are usually hd<a-z>, while SATA are sd<a-z>.09:47
zoexiiLjL, yeah, it's definately bigger,09:47
tdnI have just installed kde with apt-get install kde (not using Kubuntu). I can't find Kontrolpanel anywhere in the menus. What to do?09:47
Krillancellozoexii: So you would probably have your original IDE drive recognized as hda, and your new SATA drive would be sda.09:47
hypnoticWhat about getting into a nfs drive (windows based).. All my backup files are on it09:47
zoexiiKrillancello, isn't sd(a-z) for USB drives?09:48
LjLzoexii: i would run the Ubuntu installer and use it to partition the drive, and then (still from the installer, which has a shell you can access with alt+f2) copy over the files09:48
polpaktdn, you need to do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:48
oskudetavancini, :) http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2592.html09:48
LjLzoexii: you could do that directly from your current installation too09:48
k31thwhy wont my .exe files work in linux im double clicking but nothings happening09:48
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Krillancellozoexii: USB mass storage devices are put into sd<a-z> because their support comes from SCSI emulation; SATA is a form of SCSI, so they use the same naming convention.09:48
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LjLzoexii: however, you must be careful to change all current references to (i assume) /dev/hda1 into (i guess) /dev/sda109:48
tdnpolpak, ok. Thanks.09:48
oskudetavancini, as i see it, the names are "random"09:49
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oskudetavancini, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/14/ubuntu-dapper-drake/09:49
zoexiiLjL, hmm, seems there might be a few of those,  I don't know that I trust myself not to forget a few09:49
DistroWatchdo i need privoxy installed to get tor working ?09:49
LjLzoexii: well i can think of /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst. but yes, i agree there might be a ton of others. though i don't really think so09:50
scottjcan you connect to linux boxes with Remote Desktop in windows?09:50
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tavanciniohh, cool!09:50
LjLDistroWatch: no09:50
LjLDistroWatch: it's quite useful though09:50
Krillancellozoexii: You might want to consider a whole new partition scheme for your SATA drive as well. Since SATA is a form of SCSI, you can have I believe up to 16 primary partitions rather than three primary and a fourth extended.09:50
once1erscottj: no, but you can connect to them with something like VNC09:50
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t1nkkar1Osaiskos kukaan neuvoa miten gome ympristn ubuntun advanced moodin sais plle..?09:51
Speczoexii: i have a solution for you! mondo/mindi09:51
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DistroWatchLjL so tor works out of the box right ?09:51
LjLDistroWatch: yes. it creates a SOCKS server.09:51
zoexiiKrillancello, and what is the benefit of such a thing?  I have been thinking about several different Distros installed at once with a common partition for home09:51
tdnHow do I get Ctrl+Alt+LeftArrow and Ctrl+Alt+LeftArrow to shift between desktops in KDE?09:51
Speczoexii: just back your system up to cd or dvd, and then restore on the new system, and mondo/mindi does the geometry resizing/etc etc for you, grub and fstab are, indeed, all you need to change, and mondo/mindi does that on the restore09:51
DistroWatchLjL nice ... will xchat then use tor ? and all my other applications ?09:51
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LjLDistroWatch: only if you (can) configure them to do so09:52
zoexiiSpec, backupt to DVD?? that's quite a stack of DVDs.... and a lot of time.09:52
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LjLDistroWatch: with X-Chat, i'm sure you can (SOCKS are a "long IRC tradition"). other apps might be more problematic09:52
gleesondwhat is a good command line firewall that will run when my user isn't loged on?09:52
Specwell, back up to tape if you want09:52
DistroWatchLjL i se like firefox ... i have to configure it to use proxy09:52
Krillancellozoexii: The benefit of using the ability of SATA drives to go over the limit of 4 primary partitions is that all your partitions are primary instead of all but three being extended. There's no difference from the point of view of the system itself, it's just a nicer arrangement.09:52
Specit's got compression as well, 4 gigs fits on 2 cds (1.4gigs)09:53
LjLDistroWatch: also, the Tor developers warn that you should use a SOCKS4a client, because other versions don't include domain-name-resolving via SOCKS, which mean you will leak DNS requests09:53
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zoexiiKrillancello, I'm a bit of a noob, what does a primary partition do that an extended can't?09:53
LjLDistroWatch: you'll need Privoxy to use Tor with Firefox profitably. without privoxy, Firefox will leak DNS request and your privacy then becomes an illusion09:53
MalFalI have a system with an intel 2200bg mini-pci card that I can't seem to connect to my network for the life of me.09:53
scottjonce1er: is there a VNC client that I don't have to install, that I could run off my usb flash drive?09:53
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DistroWatchLjL i see , so i have to mae the settings in my xchat first , but what should i put in hostname .. username ..( im on network setup - proxy )09:54
Specscottj:  sure, tightvnc, just put the binary on your usb flash drive09:54
Krillancellozoexii: IDE hard drives are only able to have four "primary" partitions. If you want to have more than four (/, /boot, swap, /home and something else on different partitions), then you have to make the fourth partition an "extended" partition. Then, within that extended partition, you can make as many subpartitions as you want.09:54
Ratty_is pixel clock related to my monitor or to my graphics card?09:54
LjLDistroWatch: the SOCKS hostname is "localhost". don't remember the port right now. don't think there is any username/password by default.09:54
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zoexiiKrillancello, I see... cool,09:55
Krillancellozoexii: Using only primary partitions instead of an extended partition just makes your partition table look nicer. ;P09:55
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Specyeap09:55
KrillancelloI don't believe there's any benefit other than that.09:55
Spec:)09:55
once1erscottj: tinyvnc is just a little program, i think09:55
oskudei think for linux its no matter if its primary or extended, right ?09:55
once1ercarry around the exe09:55
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DistroWatchLjL port might be 905009:55
Krillancellooskude: I don't believe any system has a problem with extended partitions, except maybe Win3.1 and DOS.09:55
zoexiialright, thanks for the help... I'm going to power down and plug things in....09:55
Speconce1er,scottj: or the linux client and the windows client, :p09:55
LjLDistroWatch: yep, or 7501. i've got both of those open :)09:55
LjLDistroWatch: but no, it's 905009:56
cwilluwhats the word on upgrading to dapper?09:56
xunili have a question on screen captures with a tvcard window running, the tv card window shows up as blue on the capture file, is there any way to capture the actual picture from the tv card on the screenshot?09:56
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DistroWatchLjL ok done ... so type of socks will be socks4 on any application ?09:56
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Krillancellocwillu: Do you prefer stability or more functionality?09:56
LjLcwillu: it just broke yesterday ("broke" meaning "you couldn't load Gnome anymore"). don't install unless you want to help out testing it09:56
MisterNhi09:56
cwilluI'm on a play machine09:56
oskudecwillu, i would say "if you cant stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen" :)09:56
once1erscottj,Spec: i'm assuming that if he wnats to connect to linux boxes from RDC, he's using windows. and just wants the client. so... um... windows client09:56
arrinmurris there a way to change the language after installation? and don't mean keyboard layout, but the GUI language09:56
LjLDistroWatch: socks4*a*, if you care about the DNS issue09:56
chellwhat's the default login data for edubuntu shooltool?09:57
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cwillubreezy hasn't crashed on me in a while;  even seamonkey is working properly09:57
cwilluI'm getting bored :09:57
scottjSpec: do I just have to check allow others to view my desktop in Remote Desktop under System > Preferences?09:57
xunili have a question on screen captures with a tvcard window running, the tv card window shows up as blue on the capture file, is there any way to capture the actual picture from the tv card on the screenshot09:57
once1erscottj: pretty much09:57
cwillucan I attempt an update via the repositories?09:57
LjLcwillu: yes09:57
once1erscottj: but then that user has to be logged in09:57
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cwillugot a pointer to them?09:58
DistroWatchLjL yes i do :)09:58
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DistroWatchLjL one more question please . whats this privoxy for ?09:58
LjLcwillu: hm no, not really, but i guess you'd just need to change "breezy" into "dapper" in your sources.list09:58
cwillufair enough09:58
oskudexunil, i think your tv-card/driver has to support overlay mode (but i might be totally wrong)09:58
Krillancellocwillu: LjL is partially right. You should only upgrade to Dapper if a) you want to help debug it, or b) you like to see stuff break and then fix it. (Although the only difference between the two is that a involves reporting your experiences.)09:58
xuniloskude thank you09:58
LjLDistroWatch: well, Tor only opens a SOCKS proxy server. many programs instead expect an HTTP proxy server (or, anyway, don't support SOCKS4a, but only 4 or 5)09:59
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xunilrunning nvidia drivers for the gpu, hauppauge brooktree drivers09:59
KrillancelloOf course, you could always just see something break and report that... but where's the fun in that? ;P09:59
eddie_i need help installing rar can someone help me09:59
cwillulol09:59
LjLDistroWatch: Privoxy is an HTTP proxy server -- which also is intended for privacy, so contrary to other proxies, it takes a few measures to hide your IP from HTTP exchanges, and stuff like that09:59
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oskudexunil, i had 2 tv cards but i never did screenshots so dunno. sry10:00
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chellnobody's got an idea?10:00
eddie_hello, can someone help me install rar. i keep getting some error when i do it.10:00
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oskudexunil, i just have an old trick to use 2 tv cards at the same time (may not be needed these days)10:01
LjLDistroWatch: basically, Tor could have provided an HTTP proxy server themselves, but they haven't, and instead decided to only provide the simpler SOCKS support and rely on Privoxy for HTTP proxying10:01
KrillancelloMy notebook that I'm running Ubuntu on has a touchpad (of course), which the system recognizes as a PS/2 mouse. I have yet to see any support for this particular touchpad, or even its manufacturer. Should I just leave it as a PS/2 mouse or would something like xorg-driver-synaptics cover non-Synaptics touchpads?10:01
cgeHas anyone gotten mathml fonts to work in firefox under dapper or breezy?10:01
cwilluon a different note, is backports still a going concern?10:01
cgeKrillancello: what is the manufacturer?10:01
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LjLDistroWatch: (of course you could use any other proxy besides privoxy, as long as it can tunnel through a SOCKS server. it's just that privoxy is recommended by tor)10:01
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oskudeKrillancello, synaptics is very good10:01
DistroWatchLjL ok thanks a lot i will install privoxy to so i can set firefox to use it10:01
eddie_HELLO CAN SOMEONE HELP ME INSTALL RAR IM HAVING PROBLEMS10:02
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LjLeddie_: please do not SHOUT10:02
chellDoes anyone know how I can set my password and username for schooltool right after the install10:02
oskudeKrillancello, i would use it if i ever used my pad :)10:02
Krillancellocge: ALPS, I believe.10:02
LjLand tell us what problems you do have10:02
eddie_can i pm u the error10:02
eddie_Reading package lists... Done10:02
eddie_Building dependency tree... Done10:02
eddie_Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:02
eddie_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:02
eddie_is only available from another source10:02
eddie_E: Package rar has no installation candidate10:02
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oskudeKrillancello, what ever u have, synaptics should work10:02
LjLeddie_: no, use the pastebin please (paste.ubuntu-nl.org)10:02
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cgeKrillancello: ALPS works with synaptics10:02
DistroWatchLjL yes .. so you are saying that SOCKS4a its best ... SOCKS4 hope aint that bad10:02
Krillancellocge, oskude: Ah, thanks.10:02
polpakeddie_, don't paste in here10:02
LjLDistroWatch: it's not a matter of good and bad really10:03
lampshadewhat does /dev/dsp device busy exactly mean when it comes to sound?  I think something isn't quite correct with my sound configuration and I don't know why.  A lot of times different programs will stop playing sound because of the device being busy like that.10:03
polpak!info rar10:03
uboturar: (Archiver for .rar files), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 488 kB10:03
polpakinfo unrar-free10:03
polpak!info unrar-free10:03
cwilludist-upgrade, right?10:03
ubotuunrar-free: (Unarchiver for .rar files), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:0.0.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 84 kB10:03
once1er!info info10:03
ubotuinfo: (Standalone GNU Info documentation browser), section doc, is standard. Version: 4.7-2.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 173 kB, Installed size: 336 kB10:03
cgeKrillancello:  however, you will have to look around for the correct settings to add to xorg.conf. The default settings will make it unusably slow.10:03
LjLDistroWatch: it's just that, with SOCKS 4 and 5, your client *first* translates "www.blah.com" (i.e. domain names) into an IP address, and then only sends the SOCKS server this IP address10:03
LjLDistroWatch: on the other hand, SOCKS 4a allows sending "www.blah.com" directly to the SOCKS server10:03
Krillancellocge: Google is my friend. ;P10:04
cwilluwish me luck, and a bash prompt to troubleshoot from :)10:04
polpakeddie_, you need to install the universe and multiverse repos10:04
LjLDistroWatch: this means that you use Tor to resolve the name -- if you don't, the request goes to your DNS server, which isn't "private" or "anonymous" by any extent of imagination10:04
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oskudeoh, who was that with onboard sound and pci sound card prolems, it should be /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1 (not /dev/snd.) sry memory failure :)10:04
chellDoes anyone here use edubuntu?10:04
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LjLDistroWatch: so, basically, an attacker can easily know that you connected to a given server at a given time.10:04
DistroWatchLjL thanks a lot for your help and info10:05
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picassohello10:08
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jdlI'm clearly missing something with my nvidia driver install still.10:08
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picassoi'm trying to play a dvd, walk the line, using vlc (or totem-xine)10:08
picassohowever after a certain point (about 2/3 through the movie) i get an error, "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"10:09
CanadianSnowSo is there any way to get amsn 0.95 on ubuntu?10:09
CanadianSnowbecause I used to have it, but then it got messed up, and I tryied to re-install it and now it doesn't work or something :(10:09
CyorxampLo folks, if I want to use my second graphics card (lets say for now, only my second one not both at same time) I take it i have to tell dpkg-reconfigure another BusID?  is that right?10:09
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ompaul!codecs10:09
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories10:09
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ompaulpicasso, ^^^10:09
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picassohrm10:10
TuxBytehello all10:10
picassoi already have w32coecs10:10
LjLDistroWatch: also while we're on about tor, please don't fall in the misconceptions that Tor connections cannot be eavesdropped. they can - easily. an attacker just can't (hopefully) track you to your IP, but any sensitive data that you send (passwords, etc) can be easily stolen, if you don't use application level encryption10:10
picassoand the dvd plays back fine, until 2/3 of the way through10:10
oskude!css10:10
ubotuoskude: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:10
LjLCanadianSnow: yes there is. just get it from the site10:11
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picassoi have libdvdcss210:11
oskudepicasso, sry, never watch dvd with pc...10:11
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ompaulpicasso, have a look at that message from the bot10:11
teclispicasso: have you tried a different DVD-ROM?10:11
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KenSentMedoes anyone know how to fetch mail from a pop3 account (using fetchmail :p) and then put the mail in a specific folder on a imap account10:11
picassok10:11
MGPalmerhi10:11
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MGPalmeri was wondering if someone could help me with my monitor10:12
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DistroWatchLjL yes .. ok then , i just enabled this in firefox and now i feel like im using dial-up :) very very slow10:12
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cochondo_frHello everyone, is there a channel to get some help with ubuntu and XGL ?10:12
oskudebut even my dvd player could play the film copy protected "layer cake", doh...10:12
oskude*couldn't10:12
ddonkyMGPalmer - what's wrong with it?10:12
LjLDistroWatch: yes, the Tor network is undersized (especially since stupid people are using it for peer2peer). but note that it can *never* really be fast, though it could get better than it is now10:13
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LjLcochondo_fr: #ubuntu-xgl10:13
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LjLcochondo_fr: perhaps #ubuntu+1 also10:13
MGPalmerwell i just started using ubuntu today, and it seems i cant set any refresh frequency higher than 60 Hz10:13
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cochondo_frLjL: thx10:13
MGPalmerwhich makes my eyes sad10:13
ompaul!refresh10:13
DistroWatchLjL well then i just have to disable it ... should be ok without it for firefox *hope so * :)10:14
ompaul!tell MGPalmer about refresh10:14
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ompaulMGPalmer, have a look at the message from the bit10:14
KrillancelloMGPalmer: Do you know for a fact the refresh/resolution combinations work? (For example, having used them under Windows or another *nix)?10:14
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MGPalmeri have used this monitor on windows without getting eyecancer, yes10:15
LjLDistroWatch: there are some other steps you could take for some decent amount of privacy. for example, if you have a Google account, and you're logged in while you search, Google can associate all your searches with your real name immediately. and google does *not* delete search queries after some time10:15
oskudeMGPalmer, you have better changes if you know the vertical and horizontal refresh rates of your monitor (try manual or their website)10:16
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LjLDistroWatch: you might want to set your browser so that it always warns you when a site is sending you a cookie and, for example, disable cookies from google10:16
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KrillancelloMGPalmer: It could be your X config; there's a section where it defines what resolutions and refresh rates it can do with each registered card/monitor combination.10:16
oskudeMGPalmer, and then change them in /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:16
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MGPalmerok ill look into that10:17
KrillancelloAt least, I think it's for card/monitor combos... maybe it's just for each card. Haha.10:17
MGPalmerthanks everybody10:17
Zoroasterdoes 5.10 come with burning software?10:17
Zoroasterof not, what do you guys reccommend?10:18
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LjLZoroaster: it comes with gnomebacker i think10:18
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LjLbaker even10:18
mhortalezahello newbie here10:18
oskudeZoroaster, apt-cache search burning10:18
sir_quickenOK I got windows back up & running, HOW do I establish a network connection between te 2 pc's using the gnome interface? I am on KDe but might ave 2 use gnome 2 get it going correctly10:19
Zoroasteroskude, which one do you use?10:19
mhortalezacan somebody help me to play my mp3 from xmms10:19
LjL!tell mhortaleza about mp310:19
oskudeZoroaster, dunno, i use gnomebaker10:19
mhortalezamp3 files10:19
Zoroasteroskude, how do you invoke it?  from the command line?10:19
oskudeZoroaster, lol, you did ask me direct, so forget that dunno :)10:19
mhortalezalike apple itunes files10:20
oskudeZoroaster, or from menu multimedia10:20
LjLmhortaleza: try following Ubotu's instructions10:20
MGPalmerahu, i got just another quick question: in the file browser (nautilus right?), by default the view is always those big icons, how do i change the default to a list view ?10:20
oskudeZoroaster, eeh, sound and video... (or where it was, dont have burner in my notebook)10:20
jdlWhat is the purpose of /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/volatile?10:21
jdlAnd why does it have drivers with future install dates in it?10:21
phos-phorosI'm having an issue with my network card not being enabled (although within system/networking it shows as such). When checking the configuration within system/networking I recieve the prompt "Could not enable network interface", but if I select the interface and then eth0 (which the option is greyed out prior to this) and then close the networking settings gui/relaunch it ...everything performs as it should10:21
Zoroasteroskude, ok, will look, nothing like that in my menus, buit will look10:21
phos-phorosany idea as to how to resolve this would be greatly appreciated10:21
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oskudeMGPalmer, probaply somewhere in menu preferences or so (in that window)10:21
sir_quickenwell your not supposed 2 violate your pc.. tem port holes are not ment for that10:21
Zoroasterwhat I want to do is create an ISO from a CD, I will use gnomebaker, or does someone have a better idea/10:21
sir_quickenlmfao10:21
oskudeZoroaster, its not installed in strandard installation10:21
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phos-phoros/etc/network/interfaces looks correct also10:21
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phos-phoros*interface even10:22
copernichello, does anyone know how to increase shadow amount when using XGL under Badger?10:22
MGPalmeroskude: well ill be damned, its right there :) im a noob...10:22
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oskudeZoroaster, theres a simple command line command for that but dunno what...10:22
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LjLcopernic: don't think there is an option for that, if you're using Compiz. anyway, try also #ubuntu-xgl10:22
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oskudeMGPalmer, everyone was noob, so no shame or such10:22
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Zoroasteroskude, I'm apt-getting gnomebaker right now10:22
Zoroasteroskude, thanks10:22
copernicLjL: thanks for the hint10:22
oskudeZoroaster, roger, np10:22
pia_duh! I just managed to edit my passwd file in a destructive way -- I have a backup but my password doesn't work anymore10:23
tattershow do u edit a file in in CLI?10:23
LjLZoroaster: google "cd writing howto", first link is a comprehensive guide to mkisofs and cdrecord, the two command line tools that most program uses as a backend to cd burning (i use them exclusively)10:23
oskudepia_, doh :) hmm10:23
pia_is there some sort of clever boot option I can give that will let me in as root if I reboot?10:23
LjLpia_: you could pass "init=/bin/sh" to the kernel, i think that would work10:23
LjLpia_: or you can boot from a live cd10:23
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ZoroasterLjL, will do, thanks10:24
kemikpia_: or use "rescue" mode10:24
oskudepia_, have you rebootet after you re copied the backup ? maybe the system is not yet usinf it10:24
jk_somone chat in spanish??10:24
LjL!es10:24
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:24
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pia_I havn't rebooted yet, but I am locked out so it used10:25
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phos-phorosit appears as if the eth0 device is not maintaining the selection as being the default gateway device10:25
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oskudepia_, ok, try in "rescue mode" and copy the bakcup or change new password10:25
erUSUL!tell jk_ about es10:25
pia_I'll try the init=/bin/bash first10:26
oskudepia_, well, "rescue mode" is made for this kind of situations, but how like...10:26
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LjLpia_: i think rescue mode might be easier though, even though i haven't really used it10:26
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pia_we shall see *waves*10:27
oskudeLjL, me neither :) i go with "knoppix" and mount the partition :)10:27
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phos-phoroshttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81248.html , I have the same exact problem...I suppose uninstalling network manager would be worth a shot?10:27
pia_hehe, I don't even have the priviliges to reboot the box :p10:28
LjLpia_: ctr+alt+del? :)10:28
phos-phorosstrange, netw0rk-manager isn't even installed10:28
phos-phorosso that's not a viable solution10:28
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eternaljoyis there any way to change the large brown UBUNTU words on bootup?10:30
LjLeternaljoy: nah :)10:30
eternaljoyLjL: isnt it a graphics file?10:30
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LjLeternaljoy: no, not really10:30
eternaljoyLjL: or is it stored inside a data file?10:30
eternaljoyLjL: not really?10:30
LjLeternaljoy: it's a .so file :) i suppose it *can* be changed if you know the format, but10:31
eternaljoyLjL: define "not really"10:31
eternaljoyLjL: ok10:31
LjLeternaljoy: /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so10:31
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eternaljoyLjL: has it been done?10:31
oskude!usplash10:31
ubotuusplash is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto10:31
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LjLeternaljoy: haven't the slightest idea :9 guess so, given what ubotu says10:31
eternaljoyoskude: thanks :)10:31
eternaljoyLjL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto10:31
LjLeternaljoy: you could install Kubuntu's usplash anyway. at least that's not brown10:31
oskudeLjL, lol10:32
eternaljoyLjL: I dont think you should comment or answer when you obviously are not qualifed and are wrong :)10:32
oskudei never used that, i just star to love irc bots :)10:32
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oskude*start10:32
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oskudebtw, what does ubotu use ?10:33
oskude!whoareyou10:33
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, oskude10:33
oskude:)10:33
clearscreen:( im pissed off at broadcom :(10:33
Ratty_why would setting a modile on my 1st monitor have an affect on my 2nd monitor?10:33
Ratty_modeline even10:33
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LjLeternaljoy: i don't think "nah" followed by a smiley qualifies as a definitive answer (unless you don't really mean i shouldn't give *any* kind of answer). especially when, immediately after that, i explained the reason why i didn't think it could be easily modified, saying it was a dynamically linked libraries instead of any kind of standard graphics format.10:34
frank_is there away i can have my built in media reader to work with ubuntu?10:34
oskudelittle OT, where should i start to learn irc bots (like ubotu with those factoids) ?10:34
eternaljoyLjL: well its very easy :) read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto10:34
LjLeternaljoy: and, if you don't think "pngtobogl usplash-artwork.png > usplash-artwork.c ; gcc -Os -g -I/usr/include/bogl -fPIC -c usplash-artwork.c -o usplash-artwork.o" qualifies as an ugly hack, then i don't know what does.10:34
gnomefreakoskude: you need a bot than you need to learn to program it10:34
oskudegnomefreak, oh, really ;)10:35
nickrudoskude, you could start at debian-bots10:35
gnomefreakyep10:35
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oskudei was thinking a webpage with howto or so...10:35
Nameeaterthere are quite a few scripts if your a lazy sod for various bots10:35
eternaljoyLjL: its very very easy! so all you had to say was you have NO IDEA, instead of making out it was hard or near impossible :)  read the website oskude gave. its as easy as ABC :)10:35
gnomefreakoskude: i havent found one10:35
hectorhola desde espaa10:35
gnomefreak!es10:35
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:35
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oskudeor what script (if any) does ubotu use ?10:36
Psykuswhat's a good app to use for a tv tuner card?10:36
eternaljoyLjL: swallow your pride and admit you were wrong :)10:36
Psykusi managed to open it with VLC, but I can't change channels or anything10:36
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LjLeternaljoy: even installing XGL and Compiz under breezy is "very easy" (i did it myself in 10 minutes). and yet, for some reason, most experienced people here say it cannot be done.10:36
oskudea name is enough for me, google does the rest :)10:36
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oskudedoh, server load too high, cant search channels ...10:36
KrillancelloThey should change that phrase "You're not Superman." to "You're not Google."10:37
nickrudPsykus, I don't have one, but some people mention xawtv10:37
LjLeternaljoy: anyway, i reiterate that "nah :)" just about qualifies as a synonym of "no idea" in my idioms, as otherwise i would have said something on the lines of "no, it's not possible because of this and that"10:37
gnomefreakLjL: it works fine?10:37
LjLgnomefreak: not really. it works horrible under KDE, and has a few problems in Gnome.10:37
LjLgnomefreak: not sure it works any better in Dapper though10:37
gnomefreakLjL: open synaptic lol10:37
LjLgnomefreak: ?10:38
frank_trying to find help in this room is like asking a wall for assistance-fuck google is your friend for real10:38
Psykusthanks, nickrud10:38
gnomefreakLjL: for some reason xgl setup borks synaptic10:38
picassolovely10:38
gnomefreakatleast here it did10:38
LjLgnomefreak: really? haven't even tried synaptic. i don't even have gnome installed normally, i just installed it briefly to check out xgl10:38
picassoi ran easyubuntu shit, but no change to my problem w/ playing the later chapters in "Walk the Line" DVD10:38
picassoI have tried a different dvd-rom -- my friend with a Mac laptop played it and it worked fine.. also tried in VLC (on mac), had the same problem as I'm having10:39
nickrudpicasso, try xine, it seems to play more dvd's than the other players10:39
eternaljoyLjL: thats not a true defination of synonym!  do you know the accurate defination of synonym according to Oxford? :)10:39
oskudeok, now i have to decide in watch language i want a bot, hmm...10:39
picassousing totem-xine10:39
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nickrudtotem-xine didn't play as well as plain old xine10:40
eternaljoyLjL: do you have an Oxford dictionary handy?10:40
LjLeternaljoy: no, but let me take a guess and say it only applies to single words and not expressions.10:40
picassohow do i navigate a dvd in regular old xine?10:40
picassoi've only used gxine interface -- and it has no way to skip chapters and stuff10:40
LjLeternaljoy: as my native language is not english, no, all i have is a couple of bilinguar dictionaries10:40
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Ploujoh my gosh10:40
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PloujI have a really confusing problem10:40
eternaljoyLjL: if its so easy to XGL and Compiz under breezy, why cant you write a document on how to do it following easy steps? :)10:40
nickrudI just used the regular dvd menu, I think. I don't have a movie at hand to recheck10:41
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AlbanianLordwhat program would I use to burn mp3 cds?10:41
ShauOFThello10:41
LjLeternaljoy: because there's already an ubuntuforums posting explaining it in easy (and terribly ugly) steps10:41
nickrudAlbanianLord, k3b, or serpentine10:41
gnomefreaketernaljoy: i think its more on the lines of the Xserver 6.8 isnt set to handle xgl] 10:41
eternaljoyLjL: I realied English was not your first language as you misunderstand a lot of english words meanings. np :)10:41
eternaljoygnomefreak: ok10:41
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ZoroasterI was opnce told about an app that is like a gui for samba, no, not webmin, and it was great, but I lost that pc and I forgot what it is, might someone know?10:41
ShauOFTmy jute led is not working anyway to fix this?10:41
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ShauOFTmute10:41
DistroWatchLjL irc with tor enable doesnt work on any server . i can connect to freenode server but i cannot join any channel :)) banned everywhere . and also tryed to connect to undernet servers ( no change ) G-Line and Disconnected (Remote host closed socket) :))10:42
picassohow do you use "regular" xine?10:42
picassothere's no 'xine' command10:42
picassogxine ?10:42
eternaljoyLjL: if the ubuntuforums posting is as easy as your way, why do the "most experienced" people here, as you put it, have trouble installing it? :)10:42
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AlbanianLordnickrud I thought serpentine only does normal audio cd's10:42
min#ubuntu-fi10:42
chuckyppicasso, man xine10:42
nickrudpicasso, I just ran xine from the command line10:42
ompaulpicasso, try totem and if xine is there it will fire up10:42
eternaljoyLjL: the  ubuntuforums posting cant be as good as you claim if the "most experienced" people here, as you put it, have trouble installing it!  So why cant you write a better version? :)10:42
LjLeternaljoy: i don't think they have trouble installing it.10:43
nickrudAlbanianLord, oh, I thought you meant converting on the fly, sorry10:43
picassoyes, i'm using totem-xine10:43
picassoi have been10:43
Ploujok.. I compiled my own ubuntu kernel, but when I tried to instal nvidia drivers the original ubuntu kernel became default, and now I can't boot my system again10:43
LjLeternaljoy: i just think they won't do or at least suggest something that involves installing Suse packages and then moving files around in /usr manually.10:43
picassoi've got totem (w/ xine engine) or gxine10:43
Ploujffs10:43
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eternaljoyLjL: thats what you said earlier!  look what you said:...LjL eternaljoy: even installing XGL and Compiz under breezy is "very easy" (i did it myself in 10 minutes). and yet, for some reason, most experienced people here say it cannot be done.10:43
AlbanianLordso nickrud could you suggest a program10:43
AlbanianLord?10:43
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SeAwInDehi pplz10:43
gnomefreakPlouj: why are you compiling a kernel to get nvidia drivers?10:44
Ploujeternaljoy: maybe they are not that experienced10:44
nickrudAlbanianLord, the only time I ever burned some mp3's (to play on my home dvd player) I just wrote data disks10:44
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Ploujgnomefreak: I'm not doing that10:44
eternaljoyLjL: so why could you do it in 10 mins, yet the  most experienced people here say it cannot be done?10:44
LjLeternaljoy: indeed, they say it cannot be done. of course they do not really mean it, as *anything* can be done under Ubuntu (not just under Ubuntu of course), if you twiddle with the right bits10:44
Ploujgnomefreak: I compiled my kernel for a totally different reason10:44
Pupilohow can activate write option in a windows partition?10:44
LjLeternaljoy: i just explained that.10:44
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nickrudAlbanianLord, don't know if that's the 'right way', but it worked on that machine10:44
eternaljoyLjL: are you more experienced than the " most experienced people here" ? :)10:44
AlbanianLordnickrud Ill try it10:44
LjL[22:43]  <LjL> eternaljoy: i don't think they have trouble installing it.  [22:43]  <LjL> eternaljoy: i just think they won't do or at least suggest something that involves installing Suse packages and then moving files around in /usr manually.10:44
LjLeternaljoy: please listen harder10:44
eternaljoyLjL: whats your first language anyway?10:44
Psykusi can't seem to eject my DVD drive10:44
LjLeternaljoy: italian.10:44
PloujPsykus: unmount it10:45
chuckypPupilo, if its ntfs partition you don't10:45
SeAwInDei have  asort of question , i am a newbie wanna be good in progeamming and networks , i installed slackware but people told me its not good for newbies , so what do u think10:45
oskudehmm eggrop seams dead...10:45
Psykusi think I manually mounted it at one point, and now it won't let me do anything with it10:45
eternaljoyLjL: I listen better than you explain!  your contradicting yourself all over the place and your words are not congruent :)10:45
Psykusdavid@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /media/cdrom110:45
Psykusumount: /media/cdrom1: device is busy10:45
Psykusumount: /media/cdrom1: device is busy10:45
Psykusumount: /media/cdrom1: device is busy10:45
SeAwInDei have  asort of question , i am a newbie wanna be good in progamming and networks , i installed slackware but people told me its not good for newbies , so what do u think10:45
eternaljoyLjL: im half Italian10:45
gnomefreakoskude: eggdrob is  apita10:45
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PloujPsykus: do lsof|grep cdrom110:45
SeAwInDedo i think i should leave slackware10:45
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PloujPsykus: to see whats using those files10:45
Pupilochuckyp: no it's a fat3210:45
gnomefreakSeAwInDe: if you like it leave it10:45
Ratty_upon entering startx, X seemed to use 1280x768 for a split second then switched to 1024x768, what would cause this?10:45
nickrudSeAwInDe, slack will force you to become knowledgeable. Very bare bones10:45
oskudegnomefreak, ? renamed ?10:46
eternaljoySeAwInDe: what can slackware do that Ubuntu cannot?10:46
Psykusah, I see what it is10:46
chuckypPupilo, then mount it and write to it.10:46
KrillancelloI'm not entirely sure the word "congruent" can apply to anything outside of geometric shapes... o_O10:46
min#ubuntu-fi10:46
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shadowmanhello10:46
shadowman:)10:46
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Ploujeternaljoy: install properly10:46
gnomefreakoskude: its a pain in the butt10:46
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floppyearshi10:46
oskudegnomefreak, ah, ok :)10:46
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SeAwInDeeternaljoy, i dont know i told u i am a newbie10:46
floppyearsI started a grdesktop session in fullscreen, how can I get back to gnome ?10:46
tjb891were do I go to ask a question about installation10:46
eternaljoyKrillancello: are you an expert in the English grammar and language? if not, you are not qualifed to disagree with the experts in this field :)10:46
gnomefreaktjb891: here is fine10:46
SeAwInDethey told me slackware is a powerful distro10:47
eternaljoySeAwInDe: its "you", not u :)10:47
Pupilochuck: the problem is cause, it is mounting but i can't send information to that partition10:47
Krillancelloeternaljoy: Are you?10:47
oskudehmm, my favorite languge (was) php, but ill think ill go with a python bot...10:47
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eternaljoySeAwInDe: who told you slackware is powerful?10:47
SeAwInDeeternaljoy, i dont know i told you i am a newbie10:47
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gnomefreakoskude: good luck finding one :)10:47
SeAwInDesome friends10:47
chuckypPupilo, How are you mounting it?10:47
nickrudSeAwInDe, they are all equally powerful. They all run the same software, and use the same kernel10:47
tjb891ok i install it fine but then when i boot ununtu it gibe me a black screen with a blinking curser with no keyboard responce after it goes throught he entire ubuntu boot sequence10:47
SeAwInDenickrud, so what is the differences10:47
oskudegnomefreak, found allready many10:47
LjLeternaljoy: all i have to say as an excuse for my english is that i've (virtually) met a number of native english speakers whose english sentences i could correct at every odd word or so.10:47
Ploujbut some have a lot of BS in between10:47
eternaljoyKrillancello: no, thats why I rather accept the defination of the word congruent from the experts in the English language before I accept your flawed defination :)10:47
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eternaljoyLjL: yeah true :)10:48
gnomefreaktjb891: if you sit and wait does it give you an error?10:48
Ploujyo, seriously, have any of you here re-compiled your ubuntu kernels?10:48
tjb891no10:48
nickrudSeAwInDe, slack's package management sucks air, you need to compile a lot of things, ubuntu puts you in a better position on those two things10:48
Ploujthen don't answer!10:48
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tjb891it has no responce, no loading10:48
Krillancelloeternaljoy: I never gave a definition. I only stated that _I_ don't _believe_ it could be used in such a context as you had used it in.10:48
eternaljoySeAwInDe: your friends who told you slackware is powerful, are they linux experts qualified to come to such a conclusion?10:48
gnomefreaktjb891: did you install using server install or just default?10:48
tjb891default10:49
SeAwInDeeternaljoy, no10:49
PloujI would like to know how to deal with having a custom kernel installed and installing nvidia drivers10:49
SeAwInDenickrud, is ubuntu a live cd10:49
Ploujsince the nvidia-* packages require the normal ubuntu kernel10:49
eternaljoyKrillancello: well, your "_I_ don't _believe_" was based on assumption not agreed fact by the experts in the English grammar and language10:49
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chuckypPupilo, How are you mounting it?10:49
gnomefreakPlouj: i think you would have to build them in to the compiled kernel10:49
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nickrudPlouj, try getting the nividia stuff for your custom kernel from nvidia itself, and compile them10:49
eternaljoySeAwInDe: seeing your friends are not, then why do you believe your friends who are not qualified to conclude that slackware is more "powerful"?10:50
Krillancelloeternaljoy: No, my statement was based on what I knew of the word. My own personal experiences and knowledge.10:50
Ploujnickrud: what do you mean by "getting the nividia stuff for your custom kernel"10:50
klaxiandoes anyone know why I can't GPG sign files through nautilus?  There are no errors and it asks for my passphrase, but doesn't create a signature10:50
klaxianand thoughts?10:50
PloujI would like to let synaptics manage my nvidia packages10:50
nickrudPlouj, get the nvidia driver from nvidia, not ubuntu.10:50
Ploujnickrud: ok, I don't want to do that10:50
gnomefreakany linux distro can be more powerful than another depending on how its set up10:50
PloujI'm not familiar with ubuntu filesystem yet10:50
nickrudPlouj, then, run an ubuntu kernel if you want to use ubuntu kernel modules10:51
eternaljoyKrillancello: what if your own personal experiences and knowledge were based on limited and inaccurate data to begin with? then your conclusions would be flawed10:51
Ploujwell, thats crap10:51
nickrudPlouj, that's normal.10:51
Ploujthe only reason I have to run a custom kernel is cuz ubuntu refues to boot on my system otherwise10:51
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eternaljoyKrillancello: Interpretation of new data and information is dependent on previous input!  BUT WHAT if your previous input was based on limited, incomplete and false data???  That means all your beliefs and conclusions are WRONG!10:51
Ploujthats annnoying10:51
nickrud:)10:51
LjLeternaljoy: isn't this a risk that everybody incurs almost every time they make a conclusion on something?10:51
clearscreenDCOM DIE10:51
PloujI don't have time to learn all that10:51
chuckypPlouj, yes typically compiling your kernel isn't needed anymore with modules that can be loaded and unloaded etc...10:52
eternaljoyKrillancello: Question and challenge everything you see, read, and hear and believe for accuracy and truth!  Most of what you believe has been derived from limited, incomplete and inaccurate sources, information and data!10:52
AlbanianLordnuckrud it worked man and i fit loads of songs onto those 8mm cds10:52
tjb891by the way i have a emachines 633mh,256mb ram, TNT 2  32mb graphics card, and a pericom usb ethernet adapter that does not ahve any linux drivers10:52
Pupilochuck: no, ubuntu mount automatically when it began10:52
AlbanianLord*nickrud10:52
eternaljoyLjL: yes, thats why its important to verify the accuracy of the "original data"10:52
nickrudcan't imagine why someone would want to try building a 2.6 kernel anyway, there's so much distro work needed on the vanilla stuff10:52
Ploujchuckyp: mind helping me figure out how to boot stock ubuntu kernel on my system then?10:52
Pupilochuckyp: no, ubuntu mount automatically when it began10:53
eternaljoyLjL: Question and challenge EVERYTHING you hear and read for accuracy!  and even then, realise your conclusions could be based on limited, incomplete and innacurate data and information. Your "reference source" that you are comparing your information with could be wrong.  Hence, you come to wrong conclusions that you think is truth.10:53
LjLeternaljoy: though you can only do that by means of further data, which might as well be flawed10:53
trappistPlouj: nvidia modules (and all kernel modules) are very kernel-specific.  if you use a custom kernel you go to nvidia.com and run their installer.  it's actually not that hard.10:53
Krillancelloeternaljoy: Regardless of what you may think, unless I am made aware of all of the facts on a particular subject matter, I am just the opposite; unaware of these facts. If I am unaware of these facts, what I think will be in accurate. Does that mean it's not what I think, or that I'm thinking incorrectly? No. It means I am laboring under a misconception, or that the basis of my ideas are incorrect. That does not indicate a problem with my own logic,10:53
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gnomefreakok guys can you please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic10:53
chuckypPupilo, then check your /etc/fstab and make sure its mounting it rw  "meaning read write"10:53
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eternaljoyLjL: indeed that is true, so whats why its important to keep open mind and realise we could be wrong about something10:53
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eternaljoyLjL: now you are getting it :)10:53
klaxiandoes anyone have an idea why I can't GPG sign files from nautilus but i can from the command line?10:53
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chuckypPlouj, No i'm just adding that it is rare for people to have to compile there own kernel anymore.  but in your case of not being able to boot it may be necessary.10:54
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Ploujtrappist: ok, but I would prefer to figure out how to make the stock ubuntu boot on my system10:54
eternaljoyKrillancello: even if you had all the "facts", some parts of the "facts" could be derived from limited, incomplete and inaccurate sources to begin with10:54
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eternaljoyKrillancello: no such thing as "facts"10:54
Krillancelloeternaljoy: If I'm wrong about something, I'm wrong. Big deal. Should I automagically know that I'm wrong, if I'm not enlightened to the right idea?10:54
roidelapluieI'll come back, I rester my X-Server10:54
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trappistPlouj: what happens when you try?  what do you change in the config to make it work?10:54
roidelapluie**restart10:54
gnomefreakklaxian: you may beable to (for the most part everything can be done either cli or gui) but i dont know how10:54
eternaljoyKrillancello: no! you should always be aware that you "could be wrong" and keep open mind!  thats all :)10:55
trappisteternaljoy: #ubuntu-offtopic please.10:55
trappistKrillancello: you too.10:55
eternaljoytrappist: ok10:55
eternaljoybrb10:55
nickrudPlouj, I was gone for a bit, did you try that suggested initial root disk on your grub command line?10:55
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Ploujtrappist: this is what happens: http://plouj.no-ip.com/kubuntu3.jpg, to make it work I just copied my gentoo config, and there are a lot of things changed, I haven't nailed it down yet10:55
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klaxiangnomefreak: i can do it from the command line, but it's convenient from nautilus10:56
nickrudnope10:56
Ploujnickrud: ya, the initrd doesn't seem to help (I tried initrd=/boot/initrd.img)10:56
trappistPlouj: breezy or dapper?  scsi or sata boot device?10:56
Ploujtrappist: breezy, sata boot device, on nforce410:56
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gnomefreakklaxian: you can do it from both just not sure how10:56
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oskudePlouj, i have initrd.img-2.6.12-10-38610:57
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trappistPlouj: I wonder if it works on dapper.  have you filed a bug report or searched launchpad for the bug?10:57
klaxiangnomefreak: in nautilus there is a Sign option when you right click a file...it asks me for my passcode but then does not create the detached signature10:57
nickrudPlouj, try initrd.img-with some numbers10:57
oskudePlouj, wait, got a smaller, initrd.img-2.6.12-9-38610:57
oskudePlouj, should be breezy standard10:57
Ploujinitrd.img -> initrd.img-2.6.12-10-amd64-k810:58
Pupilochuckyp: in that partitions fstab says defaulds... is it posible to change it?10:58
nickrudPlouj, ok10:58
Ploujhumm10:58
PloujI'll try again10:58
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Ploujcuz I actually did initrd=/initrd.img (forgot /boot)10:58
chuckypPupilo, yes, it should be mounting it as vfat with rw permissions10:59
Cyorxamp!paste10:59
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.10:59
Pupilochuckyp: i change defaults for what?11:00
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chuckypPupilo, change defaults to auto so it would look something like this.   /dev/hda1  /windows  vfat  auto,rw,umask=000 0 011:01
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chuckypPupilo, then just make sure you have permissions to write to the directory that you are mounting it to and you should be good to go.11:01
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ShedGuys, do you recommend Captive as the best way to mount an NTFS drive as read/write?11:02
nickrudShed, no. (of course, I don't recommend any method)11:02
chuckypPupilo, after changing it then you would umount /windows and then mount /windows and you should be good subsitutue windows with whatever directory you are mounting to.11:02
trappistShed: I've heard a few horror stories, but afaik it's the only way to do it without spending money11:02
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CyorxampHi could someone please give me a hand getting my system to use more than one monitor?  I have had a crack at editing the xorg.conf found here --- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/968811:02
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nosilver4uCyorxamp: what gfx card?11:03
Ploujkernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda7 initrd=/boot/initrd.img11:03
trappistCyorxamp: if you use the fglrx drivers you can use fglrxconfig to set it up for you11:03
Ploujthat doesn't work :(11:03
Cyorxamptrappist, no this is another computer :P11:03
Ploujin other words, I get the same problem11:04
gnomefreakok lets try to fix this :(11:04
Cyorxampnosilver4u, 2 graphics cards actualy... a Rage 128 Pro Ultra (1 head) and a Appain Gemini (basically a savage mx chip) with 2 heads11:04
Ploujwhere did you say I should search for?11:04
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nickrudPlouj, try pointing directly at the files, without links (unless you're sure grub follows them)11:04
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nosilver4uok, lookin at it now11:04
mickejgotta truble over here11:05
oskudeCyorxamp, i have no idea about this, but you have all more than once expect "screen"...11:05
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mickeji bought asus notebook with ATI Xpress 20011:05
Cyorxamposkude, your not making any sense11:05
trappistCyorxamp: not sure what you mean by "another computer", but if you have an ati card, my advice still stands11:05
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mickejbut Xorg stucks when trying to initialize X11:05
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Ploujnickrud: I'm sure it follows links, otherwise it wouldn't be able to boot the kernel (vmliuz)11:05
Ploujvmlinuz*11:06
oskudeCyorxamp, i was just thinking maybe you need more than 1 screen section... (but as i said, i have no idea. never done this)11:06
Ploujwho the heck came up wit that name anyways11:06
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Cyorxamptrappist, you helped me a while back with this issue... but it was a different pc - fglrx drivers are not relevant on this one - the ati card is too old... not to mention the ati card in this is not dual head11:06
chuckypCyorxamp, he's saying you need more than one instance of screen11:06
nickrudPlouj, or, boot into gentoo, chroot to breezy, then run sudo update-grub. Copy the correct stanza to your gentoo11:06
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trappistCyorxamp: oh.  how'd the other one work out?11:06
Ploujnickrud: what does update-grub do exactly?11:06
Cyorxampchuckyp, oskude  - the only thing I have to go on is my dual screen xorg.conf (a radeon card) off another pc - which doesnt have 2 screen sections11:06
Cyorxamptrappist, yeah thats working nice... but then it did have the fglrx-config program :P11:07
mickejcyorxamp: laso tried, still not functioning11:07
oskudeCyorxamp, roger11:07
nickrudPlouj, reads all your os installs, and creates a menu.lst that boots them all11:07
mickejalso*11:07
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confreyhi everybody11:07
trappistPlouj: it's explained well in the man page11:07
Cyorxampmickej, laso?11:07
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oskudeCyorxamp, did you used 2 graphics cards wiht the previous setup ?11:07
mickejcyorxamp> *also11:07
nickrudPlouj, I normally let a new os on a partition take over grub, then readjust to my tasts11:07
mickej:-P11:08
d351GuJustartkeylogger11:08
nickrud*tastes11:08
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icicledis it wise to create a raid 0 or LVM across 2 partitions that reside on different disks? (1 IDE drive and other SATA) ?11:08
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Cyorxamposkude, no thats just 1 card with 2 heads (a nice radeon 9500 using fglrx drivers)11:08
Ploujerm, I see this: http://paste.opsat.net/?/304/ I'm kinda scared of replacing my grub11:08
trappistthanks Seveas11:08
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confreyanybody using dvdauthorr and qdvdauthor? I have menu items all pointing to the same track, and I dont'know why11:08
cafuegoSeveas: oh come on, don't ban the 31337 hacker dudes!11:08
oskudeCyorxamp, hmm, so that wouldnt need 2 screen sections, but maybe 2 cards need 2 screens...11:08
Cyorxampmickej, so you've tried to attempt what i've mentioned and its not working for you?11:08
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mickejnah11:08
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Cyorxampnosilver4u, any ideas?11:09
mickejstill got troubles with xorg11:09
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Pupilochuckyp: No it doesn't function11:09
Cyorxampnosilver4u:  I know it is communicating with the second gphx card - the pci bus ID is correct and monitor says 'Aye aye there something going on here' - but doesnt show anything11:09
chuckypPupilo, un mount it then mount it via terminal to a directory i.e. mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows11:10
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CarlFK!ubotu: seen11:10
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chuckypPupilo, If you could post your /etc/fstab to pastebin it would help.11:10
Cyorxamp(repeat) could someone please give me a hand getting my system to use more than one monitor?  I have had a crack at editing the xorg.conf found here --- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/968811:11
Pupilochuckyp: this is the line /dev/sda7       /media/sda7     vfat    auto,rw,umask=000 0 011:11
cafuegoSeveas: I have a copy of Nortons layoing about, I should install it and do a 'strings' on the dll's,, see what other fun is in there ;-)11:11
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mickejcyorxamp: it is telling me, that i didn't defined any screen11:11
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Seveascafuego, hehe11:11
Cyorxampwhat is telling you?11:11
mickejthe xorg11:11
cafuego(and then test on #mirc, not #ubuntu)11:12
Cyorxampwell I don't have that issue11:12
chuckypPupilo, and you remounted it I'm assuming since it took you so long to come back?11:12
mickej:-(11:12
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ompaulcafuego, pm?11:13
progrockWhat file systems do you guys prefer (when speed is primary concern)?11:13
cafuegoompaul: am11:13
CyorxampSeveas, might you know the answer to my woe's ?11:13
mickejbetter said: any idea, how to configure xorg for my ATI Xpress 200 with 1280x800 LCD???11:13
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cafuegoprogrock: Speed should never be the primary concern. Secondary, maybe.11:13
LjLcafuego: try testing it on #1,0 :)            (don't this at home)11:13
ShauOFThow can i install automatix?11:13
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ompaulcafuego, what are you doing up at 7:15 of a saturday?11:13
ShauOFTim trying to install the latest firefox11:13
plouj_YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!11:13
plouj_I think I fixed it11:13
ompaul!automatix11:14
ubotuAutomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.11:14
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cafuegoompaul: it's 9:15. (Doing laundry, dishes, vacuuming)11:14
plouj_all I had to do is add initrd=/boot/initrd.img on a _separate_ line from kernel=....11:14
progrockcafuego, well what should be then?11:14
ompaul!ff1.511:14
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:14
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ShauOFTcool11:14
CyorxampHi could someone please give me a hand getting my system to use more than one monitor?  I have had a crack at editing the xorg.conf found here --- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9688 (can give more details on the setup too)11:14
trappistplouj_: awesome.11:14
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ompaulcafuego, my I pm u?11:14
cafuegoprogrock: stability should be concern #1. No amount of 0.05% speed increase is going to add up to more time then you migth spend restoring from backup ;-)11:14
cafuegoompaul: yep11:14
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erik__I would like to change my theme what folder would it be in to install11:14
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plouj_nickrud, thanks for suggesting using grub-install11:15
chuckypCyorxamp, add another screen line.  Or take a look at the other pc you have it working on and you will see.11:15
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cafuegoompaul: Well, if you're identified with nickserv, anyway11:15
Cyorxampchuckyp, other pc has only 1 screen section11:15
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progrockcafuego, well what filesystem d you recommend?11:15
Pupilochuckyp:This is the original fstab  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/968911:15
mickejchuckyp: how should the screen section look like??? you have mentioned my problem ...11:15
Bad-Wolfi have 1 question what space i need to install Ubuntu?11:16
tattersWhen I cd /etc/     then view smb.conf in CLI window mAKE a change how do a I close or save changes to get back to command prompt?11:16
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SeveasBad-Wolf, how much do you have?11:16
Bad-Wolf1gb11:16
cavediverHi!. Is there a GUI for ffmpeg availible ?11:16
oskudeBad-Wolf, i got 2.2gb and its pretty fresh standard ubuntu breezy11:16
Seveasthat's not enough11:16
cafuegoprogrock: boring old ext311:16
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cavediverI have 40GB...11:16
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Seveascavediver, mplayer11:17
Bad-Wolfi need instal to my old pc11:17
chuckypPupilo, did you remount it.11:17
chuckypCyorxamp, I don't know how you would do it then.11:17
cavediverSeveas: can I use mplayer to convert formats ?11:17
cavediverHow ?11:17
SeveasBad-Wolf, I think you're better off with damn small linux or featherlinux11:17
Seveascavediver, mencoder11:17
Pupilochuckyp: yes, i umount and them i mount11:17
cdubyaanyone have issues with FF 1.5 randomly having issues hanging.......it's driving me nuts. I can work in FF for a bit and then after working for a little while, I have to close the entire session of FF that's open (any and all FF windows) and then restart FF to get it to be responsive. I thought I had heard about a memory leak on FF, but I'm not absolutely certain about the validity of that......any ideas?11:17
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oskudeBad-Wolf, with 4gb your should be done for a long time11:17
cavediverdoes mencoder have a gui ?11:17
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oskudeBad-Wolf, cant remember even having / over 3gb11:18
Seveasiirc there is an experimental one (never used it tho)11:18
Bad-Wolfwhat linux i can install at 1gb11:18
coldI just started up the ubuntu distro and the totem has no mpeg support, what plugin should I download to get that ?11:18
Bad-WolfOLD11:18
chuckypCyorxamp, you need two screens but if you don't want to I can't help you.11:18
cafuegoBad-Wolf: Most of them , as long as you stick to basics.11:18
tattershow do I return to command prompt if I use ping ... how do I stop it from running11:18
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cafuegotatters: ctrl-c11:18
xunilbad wolf you mean ghz?11:18
tattersk thnx11:18
CarlFKBad-Wolf: look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingXubuntu11:18
oskudeBad-Wolf, you could install ubuntu with the server option (should be ~200mb) and then install some lightweight WM, browser, and so on11:18
chuckypPupilo, can you paste your current /etc/fstab also to pastebin it looks like you have two windows partitions.11:19
nickrudPlouj, I stepped away again. Glad to hear you're set finally11:19
Cyorxampchuckyp, ok will try it... but still not sure how to get the third working11:19
xunili would go with debian sarge with a 1 ghz system11:19
confreyanybody using dvdauthorr and qdvdauthor? I have menu items all pointing to the same track, and I dont'know why11:19
CarlFKalso Ubuntu-lite, but I am not sure what the diff is11:19
chuckypCyorxamp, well then you would need three screens11:19
oskudeBad-Wolf, yup, xubuntu is a good start11:19
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Cyorxampchuckyp, the second gphx card has 2 heads you see... do I just make another device with the same bus ID?11:19
cdubyaare there any decent browser alternatives to FF?11:19
chuckypCyorxamp, You have three monitors hooked up?11:19
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danc3cdubya: some people like Opera11:19
Cyorxampchuckyp, yeah... 2 on the second ghpx card and 1 on the first11:19
chuckypCyorxamp, I thought it appeared that the dual head was in there let me look agian.11:19
nickrudcdubya, epiphany is pretty good11:19
neoginncan i get some help writing a essay for my class please11:19
Pupilochuckyp: yes i have to partition but i don't want to modify the other one11:20
danc3neoginn: no11:20
Cyorxampchuckyp, the Appian thing is the dual header one11:20
cafuegocdubya: Uninstall flash11:20
neoginnplease11:20
cdubyanickrud, I wouldn't mind using epiphany FT if it rendered pages right.......but it whacks lots of pages I view......11:20
cafuegocdubya: and disable java11:20
danc3neoginn: no11:20
cdubyacafeugo, uh.....ok.11:20
oskudelol11:20
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chuckypCyorxamp, wheres the pastbin link again11:20
neoginnplease!!!!!!!11:20
Bad-Wolfand how i can install if a cd Boot Not works ?11:20
oskudeneoginn, how about just asking some concrete...11:20
cafuegocdubya: Those two account for 99.999% of firefox problems.11:20
Cyorxampchuckyp,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/968811:20
cdubyacafeugo, the mozilla-flashplayer or whatever that was called?11:20
nickrudcdubya, internet explorer specific?11:20
Bad-Wolfor avalabla flopy boots11:20
neoginnconcrete?11:20
cdubyanickrud, more than likely.11:20
neoginnwhy11:20
neoginn???11:21
xunilbad wolf boot to your cdrom drive11:21
danc3neoginn: do you have a question?11:21
xunilset it in bios11:21
erik__how do I find the theme folder?11:21
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oskude!ask11:21
Bad-WolfBios old :d11:21
neoginnyes11:21
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Bad-Wolfavard11:21
nickrudcdubya, some people swear by explorer in wine, but I haven't tried it yet11:21
Bad-Wolfstupid11:21
danc3neoginn: than ask your question11:21
cdubyanickrud, not that it's a huge deal, but it is certainly a pain to navigate when text falls behind say a flash image.....11:21
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cdubyanickrud, nawwwww, it's ok. I won't ever feel that desperate.11:21
cdubyaheh11:21
xunilbad wolf go to manufacturers website and flash the bios with a new version11:21
oskudeneoginn, ask your dictionary for "concrete" (not that build material)11:21
neoginnhere is my question: the theme of "this life is a preparation for the next" is found in many writings, explain.11:21
nickrudplugin, plugin who's got a *good* plugin :)11:21
danc3neoginn: go away11:22
xunilibm?11:22
chuckypCyorxamp, Okay i'm assuming you would need another device then for the appian or some sort of line in the xorg.conf stating that its a dual head.11:22
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Bad-Wolfno11:22
xunilwhat brand11:22
cdubyacafeugo, can I just remove the flash plugin from .mozilla/plugins.......er whatever that dir was...(searches to find it....)11:22
oskudeneoginn, what does that has to do with ubuntu ?11:22
Bad-WolfPentium 120 Mhz 1Gb 32ram :D11:22
Bad-Wolfold11:22
Bad-Wolf:D11:22
xunil120 mhz lol11:22
Bad-Wolfwhat11:22
danc3neoginn <------- trolling11:23
Seveasneoginn, this is an Ubuntu support channel - no other crap in here please, there's enough crap in Ubuntu already 11:23
neoginnit has everything to do with it, becuase i got to write a paper using it.11:23
chuckypCyorxamp, I would search around for dualhead xorg appian on google or something similiar.  But once you get that sorted out then you just need a screen for each monitor and head.  Then you specify what the screen is to display i.e. left right middle etc...11:23
oskudeBad-Wolf, i got a 200mhz latpot with xfce4, works but is pretty slow...11:23
xunilbad wolf make into boat anchor11:23
oskudelol, latpot11:23
Bad-Wolfno problem11:23
neoginnso help me please11:23
neoginncome on11:23
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Bad-Wolfi made is not for me11:23
Bad-Wolffor sister :D11:23
ShauOFThow can i upgrade breezy to latest flight 4 dapper releease?11:24
danc3thank you Seveas11:24
chuckypCyorxamp, like in the server layout section11:24
cgeBad-Wolf: you could try installing debian instead.11:24
Bad-Wolfmy pc is 1000 mhz :D11:24
Bad-Wolfits a beetter11:24
Bad-Wolf?11:24
Bad-Wolfbut i need with kde gnome11:24
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neoginnseveas i am sorry11:25
oskudeBad-Wolf, my desktop is 1.2g duron, and i dont have needs to have faster, all works fast enough (except 3d games;)11:25
neoginnplease dont kick me again.11:25
oskudeBad-Wolf, with 120mhz you should forget gnome or kde...11:25
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Pupilochuckyp:  yes i have to partition but i don't want to modify the other one11:25
gnomefreakneoginn: do you have an issue with ubuntu?11:25
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mickejchuckyp: how should the screen section look like??? you have mentioned my problem ...11:25
Bad-Wolfmy frend have instaled Mandrake11:25
Cyorxampchuckyp, yeah that just doesnt seem to work11:25
Bad-Wolfand works fine11:26
danc3neoginn <---------- troll11:26
cdubyacafeugo, you talking about just turning off java in the FF prefs?11:26
oskudeBad-Wolf, or if you have enogh time, it should work (but need more space than 1gb)11:26
neoginnactually i would like to know when dapper will be released11:26
cgeBad-Wolf: On a 120Mhz?11:26
chuckypCyorxamp, i.e. Screen 0 "1stmonitor 0 0 'and below that' Sreen 1 "2ndmonitor" RightOf "1stmonitor"11:26
gnomefreakapril 20th11:26
Bad-Wolfyep11:26
oskudeneoginn, lol11:26
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chuckypmickej, what problem are you talking about.11:26
Bad-Wolf5 mandrake11:26
neoginncan i buy it at like Best Buy?11:26
gnomefreaki think danc3 is right11:26
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chuckypCyorxamp, I would hunt around for documentation on a dual head card or that driver.  And see.  I don't have any experience with dual heads.11:26
gnomefreakty11:26
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cgeBad-Wolf: Err, isn't mandrake 5 ancient?11:27
danc3excellent11:27
Cyorxamp:S11:27
duckyay11:27
duckdanc3 is back11:27
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danc3yes, hello11:27
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Bad-Wolfor i can or not install some linux with Graphic11:28
Bad-Wolf?11:28
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Bad-Wolfto 1gb space11:28
chuckypPupilo, I have No idea what you are talking about anymore.  I've lost track with the 5 minute wait between replies perhaps someone else can help you if you ask. Or try searching the forums because I know other people have your same problem.11:28
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danc3Bad-Wolf: could you repeat that, in English?11:28
patrick__hi there11:28
oskudeBad-Wolf, yes,11:28
gnomefreakBad-Wolf: no not in a million years you cant install server install on 1gb11:28
kenichihi folks11:28
coldanyone know the mpeg support plugin for totem ?11:28
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cgeBad-Wolf: my suggestion would be to install Debian, and select packages to install manually rather than use tasksel.  I really don't think Ubuntu will work.11:28
oskudeBad-Wolf, you just cant use gnome or kde (propably)11:28
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duckmeh wine :(11:28
patrick__i would use mplayer11:29
patrick__totem sucks , if you ask me11:29
Bad-Wolfi need11:29
ttreadcold, that should be in win32-codecs11:29
xunilu need a command line, no gui11:29
kenichii've got a problem with my dvd burner. can anyone help me?11:29
oskudeBad-Wolf, as you need a pretty big swap file (when you have only 32mb ram)11:29
gnomefreak!helpme11:29
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.11:29
danc3lol11:29
patrick__hehe lol11:29
Bad-Wolfi have downloaded ubuntu-5.10-install-i38611:30
chuckypubotu, tell kenichi about ask11:30
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kenichiwell11:30
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patrick__as anyone already got photoshop cs installed with wine ?11:30
cgeBad-Wolf: Or actually, look at DSL. It should work.11:30
xunilthis wolf dude just isnt listening11:30
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chuckyppatrick__, plenty of people have ifyou look on winehq's appdb11:31
kenichii've got an GSA-4120B LG dvd burner11:31
oskudeBad-Wolf, you could try that xubuntu-desktop11:31
danc3kenichi: well, what?11:31
patrick__well i got it installed, but it's working very well11:31
kenichifirst my burner only burned dvd-r with only with 1x velocity11:31
kenichithen i activated dma11:31
plouj_humm, I tried installing nvidia drivers by following the ubuntu wiki but something doesn't seem to work as glxinfo |grep direct says that I'm missing GLX extensions11:31
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patrick__maybe some of you had some tips11:31
gnomefreakplouj_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx  did you run that?11:32
kenichithen he burned faster. but all dvds i burned could not be read by dvd drive or dvd player11:32
patrick__but photoshop 6 is working, so good enough for me11:32
xunilplouj this is what i use for ubuntu guide11:32
plouj_gnomefreak, I installed it through the gui package manager11:32
xunilhttp://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu11:32
kenichinow i have read somewhere to not enable udma2 but mdma211:32
Bad-Wolfi need any linux os with GNOME , KDE to be installed to 1gb11:32
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cgeBad-Wolf: At damnsmalllinux.org.11:32
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plouj_nvidia-glx is already the newest version.11:33
danc3Bad-Wolf: do you have a question, or are you just randomly blurting out stuff that makes no real sense?11:33
kenichibut the burned dvd is not readable11:33
oskudeBad-Wolf, as i said you gonna have VERY hard times with 32mb ram11:33
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gnomefreakubotu tell kenichi about dvd11:33
patrick__if installed my nvidia drivers with this howto http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Breezy11:33
gnomefreakubotu tell kenichi about enter11:33
Bad-Wolf(I cant Boot From CD-ROM)11:33
patrick__and then method 211:33
oskudeBad-Wolf, how about just installing an finding out if the space is enogh ?11:33
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oskudeBad-Wolf, then you need floppies or netboot11:34
cgeBad-Wolf: I think there is a floppy for DamnSmallLinux.11:34
kenichidvd playing is possible11:34
Bad-WolfFlopies11:34
gnomefreakBad-Wolf: what are you looking for here. do you want to install ubuntu how much space do you have for ubuntu install11:34
kenichibut the burned dvd cant be auto-mounted11:34
Bad-Wolfto help11:34
oskudeBad-Wolf, debian has good netinstall floppies11:34
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gnomefreakno floppies for ubuntu yet but there is a netinstalll11:34
Bad-Wolffind me a Linux oS11:34
danc3my ghod, I can't take this channel any more...11:34
iBaloBad-Wolf: your only option would be damn small linux, which is optimized for 'atticware' or deli-linux... go to distrowatch.com to learn more11:34
cgegnomefreak: Bad-Wolf wants to install on a 120Mhz 1Gb HD w 32mb ram11:34
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patrick__lol11:34
ompaulBad-Wolf, have a look at http://www.distrowatch.com11:35
gnomefreakno gonna happen maybe get damnsmalllinux on 1 gig :(11:35
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ompaulgnomefreak, dsl is 50 megs11:35
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cgeBad-Wolf: There also is another distro I used to use about 5 years ago that was even smaller and fit on between 2 to 10 floppies, but I can't remember the name.11:35
gnomefreakompaul: thats unpacked?11:36
ompaulgnomefreak, .... it will load fully into 64mb of ram11:36
oskudei have debian stable running on a 200mhz 32mb 2gig (xfce4)11:36
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gnomefreakiirc they have distros that will fit on a pen drive11:36
iBalopuppy-linux would be an option, too11:36
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ompaulBad-Wolf, got an internet connection on anything else?11:36
Bad-Wolfyep11:36
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Bad-Wolfonly at my pc11:37
=== gnomefreak never found a install for puppy but i so wante to try it
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Bad-Wolfinternet11:37
colm50MB, that's damn small!  I was about to recommend zipslack, it's 10011:37
ompauliBalo, puppy-linux is not good11:37
kenichidoes anyone know a solution perhaps?11:37
Psykushey, can anyone help me get sound working in xawtv?11:37
ompaulBad-Wolf, does it have a cd burner?11:37
Bad-Wolfi have11:37
cgeBad-Wolf: Yes, if damn small linux doesn't work, you can try mulinux, which is _really_ small, but is also _really old_.11:37
Bad-Wolfi have 2 pc11:37
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Bad-Wolfi 120mhz old 2 2000mhz 40gb11:38
iBalothat's true ompaul , but somtimes 'not good' is better than not running at all :-(11:38
ompauliBalo, dsl is smaller and does not run as root11:38
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xunilpuppy linux is pretty decent11:39
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ompaulxunil, it does run all processes as root, if you had puppys desktop and dsls running ability you would be made11:39
iBaloActually ompaul is right, and it's common sense already that DSL is the best choice for obsolete hardware... BTW i have a rescue-system with xfce4/xfe on a 122 MB-Usb-pen...11:40
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kenichidoes anyone know, if gsa-4120b dvd-burner needs udma2 or mdma2 for working correctly? or perhaps something different?11:40
rpr812Dsl is not just for obsolete.  It recognizes and uses dual processors and hyperthreading.11:41
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gnomefreakkenichi: are you using ubuntu linux?11:41
xunilhow bout hyper bj11:41
Bad-Wolfftp://sunsite.auc.dk/pub/os/linux/mulinux/mu/11:41
cgeBad-Wolf: I would try DSL first though.11:41
kenichiim using breezy11:41
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dstryrwhat would be the problem yo, im trying to watch a .mpeg video, but the player said, i need a proper decoder11:41
dstryrwtf is this?11:41
kenichior else i wouldnt be here i think ;)11:41
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iBaloof course, running fluxbox on 4 Gb Ram/multiproc machines is the sensible thing to do :-)11:41
rpr812I am  having trouble verifying that my ubuntu actually sees my two xeons.11:41
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Unity /msg NickServ IDENTIFY juicykittypie11:42
gnomefreakubotu tell dstryr about restricted11:42
Unity=(11:42
ompaulBad-Wolf, I think you need to look at floppies and Debain11:42
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iBaloUnity: time for a new password :-)11:42
cgeBad-Wolf: mulinux is ancient, and should only be used if _nothing else works_11:42
UnityiBalo: i'm one step ahead of you11:42
kenichignomefreak: you know something, that could help me?11:43
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Bad-Wolfi now downloading mu linux 8 min remaining :)11:43
ompaulBad-Wolf,  debian to be honest, check the floppy install and go from there it will work pity11:43
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dstryr!FreeFormats11:43
ubotuThere are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats11:43
rpr812ubuntu claims to use symetric processing, but when I run system monitors it only shows one of my two processors11:43
gnomefreakkenichi: im wondering why you dvd burner doesnt work most of them work out of box11:43
gnomefreakrpr812: are you using the smp kernel?11:43
PuMpErNiCkLerpr812: Did you install the -SMP kernel?11:43
rpr812I am using the latest one on the download site11:44
gnomefreakrpr812: is it smp?11:44
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Seveasrpr812, install the smp kernel...11:44
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rpr812The reason I downloaded ubuntu is because I thought it was already built like dsl, to use smp, however it looks like I was wrong.  I do not know how to install smp.11:45
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kenichignomefreak: well, it worked out of the box, but only with 1x burning speed. but it can burn 8x. then i read about activating udma, because udma is not acitvated in ubuntu by default. so i activated it, but then burning dvd images did not work anymore... dvd were not readible after burning11:45
Seveasrpr812, intel or amd cpu?11:45
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rpr812dual xeons11:45
cgeBad-Wolf: Remember, mulinux is ancient - 2.0 based kernel for example.11:46
gnomefreakintel11:46
Seveasrpr812, apt-get install linux-686-smp11:46
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NoobieAtUbuntuhi guys, Im getting error's on startup: it says there are errors in the root system ,and when it does a check it comes up with errors11:46
gnomefreakkenichi: you need software to view dvds11:46
NoobieAtUbuntuthen it freezes rather than booting11:46
NoobieAtUbuntuit says: bad or duplicate sector in use11:47
gnomefreakkenichi: i sent you the dvd info in your pm11:47
rpr812I downloaded the 686 version but it does not work on processors unless they are 64 bit enabled.11:47
Psykushey, can anyone help me get sound working in xawtv?11:47
NoobieAtUbuntuis there any way I can run a disk check or something ?11:47
NoobieAtUbuntuI'm currently booted off the 'live' ubuntu cd11:47
UpayaviraCan anyone tell me what /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libcidn-2.3.6.so might be a part of?11:47
xunilhttp://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMP-HOWTO.html11:47
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rpr812many xeons are not 64 bit, even though they are ht enabled.11:47
xunilgoogle is our friend11:47
cgeBad-Wolf: try going to the #damnsmalllinux channel.11:48
Spliffsterhas any one here an advice how to resize partitions without loosing data (tools) ?11:48
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kenichignomefreak: right, i know that software is needed to watch dvds, but first of all i can watch dvds, and second i cant even mount the dvd. and my standalone dvd player also cant11:48
rpr812dsl is good for dsm, but it is not stable.11:48
iBaloNoobieAtUbuntu: why would you want to do that? file-system corruption is very rarein linux using journalled filesystems like reiser or ext311:48
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sorush20!pdb11:48
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sorush2011:48
dstryri noticed that nix downloads faster than windows11:48
NoobieAtUbuntuiBalo, my file system IS corrupt...11:49
PuMpErNiCkLeSpliffster: I recommend GParted for that - it's what I would use.11:49
dstryrbut nix suck at desktop-use11:49
sorush20guys how do I view .pdb files?11:49
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kenichignomefreak: and the image is also correct. i can watch it with vlc and i also tried another image for burning. but it wasnt readable as well11:49
NoobieAtUbuntuso I want to check whether it's the HD itself that's buggered11:49
sorush20!.pdb11:49
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sorush2011:49
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iBaloNoobieAtUbuntu: what type ist it?11:49
SpliffsterPuMpErNiCkLe: can it resize partitions ?11:49
cgeNoobieAtUbuntu:  man badblocks11:49
xunilhmmm i think nix is superior desktop11:49
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NoobieAtUbuntuta cge11:49
Bad-Wolfmy pc is doesnt boot from CD-ROM11:49
PuMpErNiCkLeSpliffster: Yeah.  I think it's even on the livecd, but I haven't checked.11:49
ompaulNoobieAtUbuntu, using a webbrowser do >>sudo fisk -l<< and paste output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:50
gnomefreaklive cd can partition drives11:50
SpliffsterPuMpErNiCkLe: ok ty, i didnt know it was capable of that ... maybe i have to unmount the partition first i guess11:50
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rpr812anyone know of a smp linux besides dsl?11:50
cgeBad-Wolf: But DSL has a boot floppy! You just put the floppy in, and the CD. Then it boots from the floppy, and runs off the CD.11:50
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xunilgnome, kde, xfce, englightenment, something for everybody on one of those desktops11:50
PuMpErNiCkLeSpliffster: Uh, yeah... you *always* unmount partitions before you change them.11:50
Spliffstergnomefreak: i dont want to partition, i'd like to resize an existing partition without loosing data11:50
Bad-Wolfand so this linux works with cd11:51
dlido I need to install kernel source or kernel headers for hsfmodem?11:51
Bad-Wolfbecouse is a LiFe CD11:51
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gnomefreakrpr812: if you get the smp kernel ubuntu will work. if you want another disrto try #ubuntu-offtopic or the distro of choice channel11:51
PsykusSpliffster, I think you'd need something like partition magic for that11:51
SpliffsterPuMpErNiCkLe: well, i was hoping a *clickedyclick* programm was telling me that before doing the work ... eh ?11:51
oskuderpr812, any linux you name has smp kernel, no ?11:51
Some-Personi need help w/ ubuntu installing11:51
NoobieAtUbuntuompaul, it came up with what looks like irc logs11:51
Some-Personi wanna get in a PM w/ a tech11:51
SpliffsterPsykus: THAT'S WHAT I TOUGHT TOO ... BUT MY OLD VERSION CAN'T HANDLE EXT311:51
cgeBad-Wolf: Does the computer not have a CD drive at all?11:51
Spliffstersry 4 caps11:51
gnomefreakSome-Person: ask in channel not pm11:51
Some-Personok11:51
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Psykusoh11:51
Bad-Wolfhave11:51
ompaulNoobieAtUbuntu, well I want you to >>paste sudo fdisk -l<<11:51
xunilwhats the ideal size for a swap drive11:52
Bad-Wolfbut cd will be olways inside11:52
gnomefreakdouble your memory up to 1gig11:52
Spliffsterxunil: twice the ammount of ram as rule of thumb11:52
Some-PersonCan GParted make the partition changed in the zip file i'll send to anyone who can help me?11:52
xunilgnomefreak thanks11:52
NoobieAtUbuntuompaul, into a web browser navigation bar ?11:52
rpr812I got the smp kernel but it only works with xeons which are newer, as compared to dsl which works even with dual pentium 3's11:52
Spliffsterxunil: but on a laptop at best 0/zero/nada ... if u have anough ram11:52
cgeBad-Wolf: After you start up DSL, there is an option to install on the hard drive.11:52
Some-Personsee now why i must ask in PM?11:53
ompaulNoobieAtUbuntu, in the address bar you put http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and it wiill be obvious from there11:53
Spliffsterxunil: no swap = less disk activity = longer battery life11:53
rpr812the smp version of ubuntu does not actually use smp for my dual xeon 2.4g system11:53
oskuderpr812, then you need to rewrite your question...11:53
gnomefreakSome-Person: always ask in channel first you get better help that way now if someone is gonna help you they will11:54
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Some-Personi just did11:54
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dlirpr812, recompile your kernel11:54
Some-PersonCan GParted make the partition changes in the zip file i'll send to anyone who can help me?11:54
NoobieAtUbuntuompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/969011:54
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gnomefreaki understand that but starting off as a pm is not normally a good idea11:54
dstryrgnomefreak, i tried that w32codecs, still wont play wma/mpg/wmv11:54
Some-Personwithout losing data11:54
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dstryrshould i get a new player or someshit?11:54
bluefusionHi guys11:54
anto9usSome-Person, I don't understand what you're asking11:55
SpliffsterPuMpErNiCkLe: GParted doesn't list unmounted partitions ... heh ?11:55
gnomefreakdstryr: what player are you using?11:55
NoobieAtUbuntu!tell dstryr about easyubuntu11:55
dstryrtotem11:55
bluefusionHow do I mount my hard drive so i can browse it? NTFS partition11:55
gnomefreakdstryr: try mplayer11:55
iBalo!mountwindows11:55
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:55
gnomefreaki dont know much about any players i dont use them but i hear mplayer will play more files than totem11:55
rpr812I do not like dsl for several reasons, and I like ubuntu for several reasons, but I need an operating system that recognizes dual processors, like windows 2000 or xp.11:55
Some-Person!mountwindows11:56
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:56
ompaulNoobieAtUbuntu, now do this >> df | grep hda << does it return something if so is the number 1, if not please say it returns nothing11:56
bluefusionta11:56
cgerpr812: Try debian?11:56
Some-Personplease help me!11:56
gnomefreakrpr812: what is the output of uname -r11:56
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NoobieAtUbuntuompaul, returns nothing11:56
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Some-PersonCan GParted make the partition changes in the zip file i'll send to anyone who can help me without losing data?11:56
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ompaulNoobieAtUbuntu, do this and sit back >>sudo fdisk /dev/hda1<<11:57
Yakshahey11:57
rpr812I have not yet learned to recompile, so I need a version like dsl that automatically uses smp.11:57
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NoobieAtUbuntuompaul, will that keep the existing file system >11:57
NoobieAtUbuntu?11:57
specHow do I edit the right-click-on-desktop menu?11:57
Yakshai just got ubuntu and i cant get into msn chats can someone help me?11:57
NoobieAtUbuntuompaul, or will it wipe what is there ?11:57
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anto9usSome-Person, don't repeat please. I think you need to rephrase your question, it makes little sense as far as I can tell11:57
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kenichignomefreak: any idea?11:57
gnomefreakrpr812: go into synaptic and search for smp kernel there should be one in there iirc11:57
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ompaulSome-Person, gparted does not deal with zip files11:57
Yaksha?????11:58
Some-PersonCan GParted make the partition changes i want to make without losing data?11:58
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oskudegnomefreak, he allready has it, but it doesnt support his cpu11:58
cgeSome-Person: Usually.11:58
ompaulNoobieAtUbuntu, sorry11:58
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Ploujisn't there a ubuntu glx channel?11:58
Some-Personi'll send screenshots thru dcc to anyone who wants to help me11:58
oskudegnomefreak, he said...11:58
Cyorxampcge, whats the exceptions?11:58
gnomefreakoskude: he just said he didnt learn to compile it11:58
dstryrhow do you decompress tar.bz211:58
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gnomefreakthats why i asked for uname -r oputput11:58
ompaulNoobieAtUbuntu, what I want you to do it this, (no that would not have but you can do a lot of damage from there but the command as was would not)11:59
gnomefreakubotu tell dstryr about tar11:59
oskudegnomefreak, before that...11:59
dlidstryr, tar jxvf foo.tar.bz211:59
NoobieAtUbuntuompaul, I'm running "badblocks" on /dev/hda1 atm11:59
gnomefreakoskude: i saw. but he has said alot of controdicting things11:59
ompaulNoobieAtUbuntu, >> sudo fsck -y /dev/hda1 << that will actually try to fix problems11:59
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cgeCyorxamp: Usually as in no, but back up valuable things.11:59
NoobieAtUbuntuok11:59
ryan_isherehello11:59
ryan_ishereim having a bit of a problem11:59
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ryan_ishereand i went to a tech support site12:00
ryan_ishereand now i want to shoot myself12:00

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