| ilmari | Psi-Jack: 3.4 | 12:04 |
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| Psi-Jack | Aha! That's why spca5xx locks up on me. :) | 12:04 |
| LaserJock | hi tritium | 12:05 |
| tritium | hi LaserJock | 12:05 |
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| dolson | LaserJock: ping | 12:37 |
| LaserJock | dolson: pong | 12:37 |
| dolson | LaserJock: you busy? :) | 12:37 |
| LaserJock | hmm, depends | 12:37 |
| dolson | this just needs to be uploaded, that's all http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2130 | 12:38 |
| dolson | if you have time to do it, this is the UVF for it https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/34244 | 12:39 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 34244 in seq24 "seq24 UVF request" [Normal,Confirmed] | 12:39 |
| LaserJock | dolson: it looks like the comment says it was done | 12:39 |
| LaserJock | dolson: have you looked at the build on LP? | 12:41 |
| slomo_ | LaserJock: it isn't uploaded yet | 12:43 |
| slomo_ | feel free to do so... otherwise i will upload it ;) | 12:43 |
| LaserJock | slomo: ok, I'll do it | 12:44 |
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| Spec | heh, that was quite a bug (34606)... | 12:50 |
| slomo_ | Ubugtu: bug #34606 | 12:51 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 34606 in Nexenta OS "Administrator root password readable in cleartext on Breezy" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/34606 | 12:51 |
| dolson | sorry LaserJock I went to the washroom. the build didn't fail, did it? | 12:52 |
| Spec | by all users, at that. | 12:52 |
| Spec | it's confirmed and fixed already though, so that's wrong... | 12:52 |
| LaserJock | dolson: no, it hasn't be uploaded. I'm going to do that now. | 12:52 |
| Toadstool | Colin Watson fixed it really quickly but the news has spread all over the net faster than that :/ | 12:54 |
| dolson | ooo, Ubuntu is joining the Linux Audio dot Org consortium... I wonder who is responsible for that | 12:54 |
| Spec | well, as long as it's fixed quickly, that's good. | 12:54 |
| Spec | although i have to wonder how long this has been a bug.... | 12:55 |
| Toadstool | about 5 months... | 12:55 |
| Spec | nice... | 12:56 |
| Toadstool | I can already read the forums' headlines : "the best distro of the year was in fact the less secure"... 1 month and a half before dapper release that sucks... | 12:58 |
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| Toadstool | now I have to go to bed if I want be able to wake up for school tomorrow, gn8 everybody | 01:00 |
| tritium | hmm, /var/run/tor dir tends to disappear a lot | 01:04 |
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| LaserJock | dolson: ok, seq24 hit dapper-changes | 01:24 |
| dolson | thanks LaserJock :) | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | dolson: np | 01:25 |
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| LaserJock | hi Kyral and minghua | 03:46 |
| Kyral | hey | 03:47 |
| Kyral | anyone know where anacron logs too? | 03:47 |
| minghua | hello LaserJock and Kyral | 03:47 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: /var/logs I would imagine | 03:47 |
| Kyral | hmm | 03:47 |
| Kyral | trying to figure out if the update script I put in /etc/cron.daily on my server is firing off | 03:48 |
| LaserJock | minghua: need any uploads? | 03:48 |
| minghua | LaserJock: heh. not yet | 03:48 |
| minghua | LaserJock: will pester you when I need :-) | 03:49 |
| LaserJock | minghua: ok fine. I'm in a bit of a sponsoring mood tonight ;-) | 03:49 |
| bddebian | We are "sponsoring" now? | 03:49 |
| LaserJock | well, I'll sponsor uploads if they need to get done | 03:50 |
| Kyral | Hehe, soon XenBreezy will become Xen Dapper | 03:50 |
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| bddebian | LaserJock: So you've become the Master eh? :-) | 03:52 |
| Kyral | when did bddebian get here | 03:52 |
| bddebian | Heya Kyral | 03:53 |
| bddebian | Fuuuuuuuuck I hate qt-x11-free | 03:55 |
| Spec | editing a wiki, what's the best way to flag command? bolding them? | 03:55 |
| === Kyral yawns | ||
| Kyral | I'll get my MOTUNess during Dapper+1 | 03:55 |
| bddebian | Kyral: Awesome | 03:56 |
| Kyral | right now I'm learning about Xen and webservers and stuff :D | 03:56 |
| dolson | Spec: in MediaWiki, I always put a space at the start of the line. not sure about MoinMoin or any others | 03:56 |
| Spec | xen is cool | 03:56 |
| bddebian | Xen pfft :-) | 03:56 |
| Spec | dolson: i'm using wiki.ubuntu.com | 03:56 |
| Spec | that's not a moinmoin, is it? | 03:56 |
| Spec | oh, it is | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian btw. I'm a MOTU now. In some ways I don't feel like one but I try. I am sure grateful that you got me started with the MOTU | 03:56 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Awesome, congrats. I feel REALLY bad that I have been MIA. :-( | 03:57 |
| Kyral | I'm gonna try Gentoo on this laptop tomorrow | 03:57 |
| Kyral | yah I feel bad that I have been slacking off lol | 03:57 |
| Spec | I'm trying to become a member still :p | 03:57 |
| Spec | I had to leave early the last meeting so i could attend a conference and give out ~1300 ubuntu cds to people who work in the government, so they didn't let me join 'cause i wasn't there :p | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: don't worry, we are MIA at some point | 03:58 |
| bddebian | Spec: Well I did quite a bit of stuff for Breezy but I'm still not a Member according to Launchpad :-) | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | Spec: well, that contribution should help towards becoming a member for sure | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: don't worry, you're special wiki is still around ;-) | 04:00 |
| Spec | ah hah! it's {{{ and }}} | 04:00 |
| Spec | LaserJock: i know, it was unfortunate timing, they said my profile looked good enough to become a member | 04:00 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: That's sad :-) | 04:00 |
| LaserJock | Spec: well, next time. I'm sorry that you weren't able to make it. | 04:02 |
| Spec | how do I make a block of text render like a block of text as i've written it in the wiki editor? | 04:02 |
| Spec | like, in html, it'd be """ whatever """ | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | Spec: You might check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnEditing | 04:05 |
| Spec | ah, i thought all the help was only at the bottom of the page | 04:05 |
| Spec | which is very limited :p | 04:05 |
| Spec | ah, very helpful, thanks | 04:07 |
| LaserJock | np | 04:07 |
| === Erlang looks but will hopefully be very much more helpful with Dapper+1 too... | ||
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| bddebian | Heya ajmitch_ | 04:12 |
| ajmitch_ | hello | 04:12 |
| ajmitch_ | what's new? | 04:13 |
| bddebian | I fixed all the bugs | 04:13 |
| === ajmitch_ can't ssh to his home box from uni for some reason | ||
| bddebian | ;-P | 04:13 |
| ajmitch_ | great, I can go back to holiday mode then | 04:13 |
| LaserJock | hi ajmitch_ | 04:14 |
| === ajmitch_ sees his home box is still on irc, so nothing too major has happened | ||
| ajmitch_ | hey LaserJock | 04:14 |
| Erlang | ajmitch_: that happens to me all the time when I leave my computer alone too long... they can't seem to live without me. | 04:14 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch_: do you know if builds are retried after failure on soyuz? | 04:15 |
| ajmitch_ | yeah | 04:15 |
| ajmitch_ | I'd better go home & sort it out :) | 04:15 |
| Spec | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiBroadcomDriver | 04:15 |
| ajmitch_ | since the lab here has taken about 10 minutes to do 75% of it | 04:15 |
| ajmitch_ | and I could do the rest at home | 04:15 |
| === ajmitch_ feels like a nice cold drink | ||
| Erlang | last time it was only dyndns.org screwing up. | 04:16 |
| ajmitch_ | sure, except I'm getting 'no route to host', and dns is correctly resolving | 04:18 |
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| dolson | ogra: do you want the bugs filed against gnome-screensaver? no, right? you want them against the apps themselves | 04:43 |
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| LaserJock | hi G0SUB | 04:51 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock :) | 04:51 |
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| LaserJock | hmm, stupid laptop ran out of juice :( | 05:19 |
| Kyral | Night MOTU | 05:31 |
| LaserJock | cya Kyral | 05:36 |
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| LaserJock | hi Hobbsee | 05:43 |
| Hobbsee | hey LaserJock | 05:43 |
| ajmitch | hello Hobbsee | 05:43 |
| Hobbsee | hey ajmitch | 05:43 |
| spacey | hi | 05:44 |
| ajmitch | hey spacey, what's up? | 05:44 |
| spacey | i want to sleep | 05:46 |
| spacey | how are you doing ajmitch:) | 05:47 |
| minghua | good night MOTUs | 05:48 |
| ajmitch | good :) | 05:49 |
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| === dolson installs 55 games to test gnome-screensaver | ||
| LaserJock | lol | 06:30 |
| LaserJock | go report those bugs ;-) | 06:30 |
| dolson | LaserJock: ogra must been away, do you think that if gnome-screensaver comes on during <game> then the bug goes against g-s or <game? > | 06:37 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I'm not sure. If you do it against the game you should probably subscribe ogra so he can see it easily. | 06:38 |
| Lathiat | yeh i agree with lj | 06:39 |
| dolson | k, that's what I will do if any of these don't respect g-s | 06:45 |
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| Spec | Mailman/lists.ubuntu.com should require gpg keys, and encrypt any e-mail sent to me that contains my password... Where would I file that suggestion officially? | 07:28 |
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| Spec | so, making wiki pages gives you no karma? | 08:11 |
| Yagisan | I don't think it does. Fixing bugs does - hint hint ;) | 08:13 |
| === ajmitch gets a-fixin' | ||
| === ajmitch is actually working on a bug at the moment | ||
| Yagisan | I amazed my wife today. I showed here how with 1 line of text I could set ubuntu up to record, trancode and burn the japanese news at 5:30am for her, automatically, 6 days a week. | 08:15 |
| ajmitch | wonderful :) | 08:16 |
| Yagisan | isn't cron nice ;) | 08:16 |
| ajmitch | how well do you understand japanese? | 08:16 |
| Yagisan | more spoken then written. I can do very basic conversation | 08:17 |
| Yagisan | I can start to understand some preschool shows now | 08:17 |
| Yagisan | I wish cron also let me specify seconds as well as minutes | 08:19 |
| ajmitch | you need it to be that accurate? | 08:19 |
| Yagisan | for tv recording, it would be nice. currently I trigger recoding 1 minute before the program is due to start | 08:20 |
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| dolson | Yagisan: you could put a sleep 45 at the start of your cron command line :) | 08:31 |
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| Yagisan | dolson: yes that is a possibility. | 08:37 |
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| Lathiat | Yagisan: you often want a minue fuzzyness on recording anyway? | 09:00 |
| Lathiat | *minute | 09:00 |
| Lathiat | i in fact use 5 minutes.. | 09:00 |
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| Yagisan | Lathiat: 5 ? I give a few minutes past the end in case it's late, but not that much. I chew up 6GB/hr just dumping it down | 09:02 |
| dholbach | good morning | 09:03 |
| Gloubiboulga | hello dholbach | 09:06 |
| ajmitch | morning dholbach | 09:07 |
| dholbach | hey guys! :) | 09:08 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: how was your weekend? :) | 09:09 |
| Yagisan | G'day dholbach | 09:09 |
| Lathiat | Yagisan: yeh but 5 minues isnt going to hurt ;p | 09:10 |
| Lathiat | Yagisan: i dont know about tv there, but tv here can tend to move around by a few minutes | 09:11 |
| Lathiat | mayeb yours is better, i dunn | 09:11 |
| Lathiat | o | 09:11 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: merci beaucoup - it was fine... caught up with mails, did a bit of python hacking, tried the new records i bought in london, went to a thai place - stuff like that | 09:11 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: how was your weekend? | 09:11 |
| Spec | i've been meaning to find a good thai place | 09:14 |
| Yagisan | Lathiat: it does move around here, but as I can only pick up one channel (when the wind is blowing right), I don't mind missing the ads at the start ;) | 09:15 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: alright, flew back to NZ on saturday, did very little yesterday | 09:18 |
| === ajmitch is back to hacking now | ||
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| Lathiat | ouch 1 channel ;p | 09:32 |
| ajmitch | Lathiat? | 09:32 |
| Lathiat | yagisan | 09:32 |
| ajmitch | ah, I see context | 09:32 |
| Lathiat | context from 3 lines up ;p | 09:33 |
| ajmitch | 3 lines + extra junk in between :) | 09:33 |
| Lathiat | my terminals 80x35 and i could see it still ;p | 09:33 |
| sivang | ajmitch: still working on the embedded project? :) | 09:33 |
| Lathiat | err, 80x25 | 09:33 |
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| ajmitch | sivang: ? | 09:35 |
| ajmitch | see context above.. ;) | 09:35 |
| === ajmitch is back in NZ | ||
| === Lathiat kicks ajmitch | ||
| === ajmitch kicks Lathiat | ||
| Lathiat | ouch | 09:36 |
| Lathiat | bastard. | 09:36 |
| ajmitch | enough of that | 09:36 |
| ajmitch | I'm not here to be nice | 09:36 |
| === Lathiat pulls the CoC card | ||
| Lathiat | can anyone tell how bored i am? ;p | 09:37 |
| ajmitch | yes | 09:37 |
| Lathiat | 23 minutes and counting.. :) | 09:37 |
| ajmitch | morning siretart! :) | 09:38 |
| freeflying | looking for review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2143 | 09:42 |
| === Mongoose is away: /_\ zzZzZZZZzz | ||
| Mithrandir | Mongoose: please turn off public away | 09:43 |
| siretart | hi ajmitch | 09:46 |
| ajmitch | how are you? | 09:47 |
| siretart | thanks fine. I'm currently at work. how are you? | 09:48 |
| ajmitch | alright | 09:50 |
| siretart | :) | 09:50 |
| === ajmitch is keen to get back into packaging | ||
| siretart | a friend is telling me that he was just bitten by selinux not letting him run vmware | 09:53 |
| siretart | I think selinux is right ;) | 09:54 |
| ajmitch | hehe | 09:54 |
| Lathiat | haha | 09:55 |
| === dolson just noticed that the music for the late-night Girls Gone Wild advertisements is similar to the music in the Nintendo video games such as Mario Golf... hmm | ||
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| siretart | looks like I don't need to send out another sync report | 10:10 |
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| ajmitch | sistpoty has uploaded them all? | 10:12 |
| siretart | no idea | 10:20 |
| siretart | seems like someone (*sigh*) needs to check each item if it is uptodate in dapper | 10:20 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | We are in feature freeze now. Focus on fixing bugs, malone is full of them. | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by siretart at Fri Feb 24 15:35:58 2006 | ||
| (hub/#ubuntu-motu) azeem: I fixed upstream | 04:17 | |
| (hub/#ubuntu-motu) azeem: with the maintainer permission | 04:17 | |
| (azeem/#ubuntu-motu) ah, cool | 04:17 | |
| (Spec/#ubuntu-motu) azeem: I thought the dh_python was supposed to find all the depenencies, this program depends on python2.4-reportlab, python2.4-wxgtk2.6, etc | 04:17 | |
| (hub/#ubuntu-motu) azeem: but I just wonder if I just should bother making a clean patch or not | 04:17 | |
| (Spec/#ubuntu-motu) it's easy enough to make my own dependencies though | 04:18 | |
| (hub/#ubuntu-motu) azeem: because next update upstream will not need the clean patch | 04:18 | |
| (azeem/#ubuntu-motu) hub: having it in the diff is better practise I think, splitting up the .ac patch from the regeneration patch would be nice, though | 04:18 | |
| (hub/#ubuntu-motu) s/clean// | 04:18 | |
| (hub/#ubuntu-motu) azeem: I have to change the rules to also regenerate auto* | 04:18 | |
| hub | etc | 04:18 |
| hub | and that is more work | 04:18 |
| azeem | hub: that's the other possibility | 04:18 |
| hub | for something that won't be need at next version | 04:19 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: ok, so if I use version like 4:3.5.1-kopete0.12, I still have "initial release" in changelog? | 04:19 |
| azeem | then you would have to Build-Depend on autotools, which some people don't like | 04:19 |
| azeem | Spec: dh_python can only figure out the correct python version to use I think | 04:19 |
| raphink | Tm_T: yes | 04:19 |
| raphink | imo | 04:19 |
| Tm_T | huh | 04:19 |
| Spec | azeem: that's good, because i explicitely specify that :p | 04:19 |
| raphink | because it's the first release of this source | 04:19 |
| raphink | and the changelog is linked to the source, not to the binaries | 04:20 |
| Tm_T | raphink: yeah, you know it's hard to make nice debian dir ;) | 04:20 |
| raphink | Tm_T: hehe | 04:20 |
| Tm_T | not much idea what there should be and what not | 04:20 |
| raphink | hehe | 04:20 |
| raphink | Riddell: /usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.svgz after last upgrade of k-d-s | 04:21 |
| raphink | ;) | 04:21 |
| raphink | doesn't sem to have really fixed the wallpaper, on the contrary | 04:22 |
| Riddell | raphink: hmm? | 04:22 |
| raphink | oops sorry, wrong paste | 04:22 |
| raphink | hehe | 04:22 |
| raphink | wait | 04:22 |
| raphink | $ kdesktop: WARNING: failed to load SVG file /usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.svgz | 04:22 |
| raphink | that's it ;) | 04:22 |
| raphink | I had pasted just the end of it | 04:22 |
| Spec | how is source distrobuted when you apt-source something, is that the created tar.gz file? | 04:22 |
| raphink | since i upgraded k-d-s, I hvae no wallpaper anymore | 04:22 |
| Tm_T | :p | 04:23 |
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| Tm_T | raphink: that's kubuntu-default-settings? | 04:23 |
| raphink | Spec: you get the orig.tar.gz, the .dsc and the diff.gz (or other files in case this is a debian-native), then it runs dpkg-source -x on the dsc to extract the dir | 04:23 |
| raphink | Tm_T: yes | 04:23 |
| Tm_T | aye | 04:23 |
| Spec | Well, i didn't get an orig.tar.gz or a diff.gz created, but I did get a python-package-version.tar.gz created | 04:24 |
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| Tm_T | I don't have any diffs either | 04:24 |
| Tm_T | Spec: orig is just renamed default package | 04:25 |
| Tm_T | s/default/original | 04:25 |
| Spec | just the tarball of the source? | 04:25 |
| raphink | Riddell: it installs a png wallpaper but still gets the svg as default it seems | 04:25 |
| raphink | (I still dislike this new wallpaper very much)= | 04:25 |
| Spec | hehe, yay, it worked | 04:26 |
| Kyral | Cya guys I'm off to play with my puppies :D | 04:32 |
| hub | Kyral: what kind of puppies? | 04:45 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | We are in feature freeze now. Focus on fixing bugs, malone is full of them. | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by siretart at Fri Feb 24 15:35:58 2006 | ||
| (Kyral/#ubuntu-motu) hub: a 3 year old Chocolate Lab and a 1 year old West Highland White Terrier | 05:16 | |
| Kyral | -ELATE | 05:17 |
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| Tm_T | chocolate lab as human baby? | 05:17 |
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| Kyral | Tm_T, no, dog breed | 05:18 |
| Tm_T | aah | 05:18 |
| Tm_T | eat it | 05:18 |
| Kyral | .... | 05:18 |
| Kyral | STAB! | 05:18 |
| Tm_T | ah, two e | 05:18 |
| Tm_T | not dog bread | 05:19 |
| Kyral | .... | 05:19 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 05:19 |
| === Kyral hands Tm_T a bottle of Bawls | ||
| Kyral | Caffine you need, Yoda say! | 05:19 |
| Kyral | Actually I can pull up pics of the dogs if you really wanna see them | 05:19 |
| Erlang | I do I do | 05:20 |
| Kyral | http://clarkson.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2000901&l=ba169&id=21601643 | 05:20 |
| Tm_T | :) | 05:21 |
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| Gloubiboulga | could anyone have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2059 ? | 05:28 |
| hub | Kyral: cute | 05:29 |
| Kyral | hub: Don't I know it | 05:30 |
| hub | Kyral: looks really dark for a chocolate lab | 05:30 |
| hub | my GF wants a Boston Terrier | 05:30 |
| Kyral | hub, Its prolly my camera, but yah, Mia pup is kinda dark. But when the light hits her coat right... | 05:30 |
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| Kyral | Terrier == Hyper | 05:34 |
| hub | Kyral: I remember a Westie nagging my ex-in-laws' Lab | 05:37 |
| Kyral | hub, they get along well :P | 05:40 |
| hub | yeah | 05:40 |
| hub | but one was behing the gate | 05:40 |
| Kyral | lol | 05:40 |
| hub | and they both had the same name :-) | 05:40 |
| Spec | where are ubuntu version docs? (how to version packages...) | 05:42 |
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| Spec | so who maintains multiverse? | 05:56 |
| netzmeister | what do you mean? there are many multiverse maintainer! | 05:58 |
| netzmeister | which package? | 05:58 |
| hub | Spec: MOTU maitains multiverse | 06:01 |
| Spec | ah, okay, so they maintain both universe and multiverse | 06:03 |
| G0SUB | Spec what did you think? MOTM ? | 06:04 |
| Spec | well, i had a feeling there was a secret underground organization called MOTM.... | 06:05 |
| G0SUB | hehe | 06:05 |
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| G0SUB | is Kubuntu providing KDE updates for Breezy? | 06:48 |
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| netzmeister | hello MOTU's ;-) | 06:57 |
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| LaserJock | morning everybody! | 07:16 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock it's almost 00:00 here :) | 07:17 |
| LaserJock | well, good afternoon and good evening everybody! | 07:18 |
| G0SUB | hehe | 07:18 |
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| LaserJock | netzmeister: nabend! | 07:19 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock have you dist-upgraded to dapper btw? | 07:19 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: what do you mean? like dist-upgraded today? | 07:20 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock no ... not today | 07:20 |
| netzmeister | LaserJock: hello | 07:20 |
| netzmeister | Xgl is a funny thing.. :-D | 07:20 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: well, I've been running Dapper-only since the repos opened | 07:21 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: I haven't seen Breezy since ~ November last year ;-) | 07:21 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock hehe ... okay ... I am thinking about upgrading today ... hope nothing breaks :) | 07:21 |
| Erlang | be wary of initramfs... | 07:22 |
| G0SUB | Erlang I don't use / need any | 07:22 |
| Erlang | good. | 07:22 |
| ogra | you wont get around it :) | 07:23 |
| Erlang | my kernels got kinda broke when I dist-upgraded to dapper. | 07:24 |
| ogra | 2.6.14+ *needs* initramfs ... | 07:24 |
| ogra | just dont fiddle with the defaults, then all is fine :) | 07:24 |
| Erlang | it was sad because once I fixed that problem Dapper booted and ran just fine on the KDE side. | 07:25 |
| Erlang | GNOME was/is still annoying because of that bug with evdev. | 07:26 |
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| G0SUB | Erlang which bug? | 07:27 |
| ogra | i was about to ask this ... | 07:27 |
| Erlang | gnome-settings-daemon crashes if one uses evdev with a strange button setup... | 07:27 |
| ogra | i also would like to know which kind of initramfs probs yopu had ... | 07:27 |
| Erlang | me? | 07:28 |
| ogra | since on 8 machines here i never saw any probs with initramfs ... | 07:28 |
| ogra | (3 different arches) | 07:28 |
| Erlang | I wish I understood better. | 07:28 |
| ogra | so what did that mean? <Erlang> be wary of initramfs... | 07:29 |
| LaserJock | ogra: who are the buildd admins? elmo and Kamion? | 07:29 |
| Erlang | I don't really understand how it happened. I just know that there was no /dev/hda in the initramfs. | 07:29 |
| ogra | Erlang, after you upgraded to dapper ? | 07:30 |
| Erlang | I don't know how but the dist-upgrade process seems to have skipped the install of udev. | 07:30 |
| Erlang | ogra: yes. | 07:30 |
| ogra | LaserJock, infinity and lamont normally | 07:30 |
| ogra | Erlang, when was this ? in the middle of the udev rewrite ? | 07:31 |
| LaserJock | ogra: hmm, ok. so do I just ask for a give-back? | 07:31 |
| ogra | yep | 07:31 |
| ajmitch | morning | 07:31 |
| Erlang | ogra: but I tried so much things to fix the problem that I'd have troubles pinpointing which steps fixed the problems. | 07:31 |
| LaserJock | hi ajmitch | 07:31 |
| ogra | Erlang, we rewrote udev completely, that was an expected behavior in the beginning of the release cycle ... | 07:32 |
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| Erlang | I might have been unlucky... | 07:32 |
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| Erlang | Seeing "/dev/hda not found" was quite a bit traumatic. I'm luckly I've had enough nerves remaining to fix the problem. I did not try to undeerstand what caused it at first. | 07:33 |
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| ogra | you should have only come to #ubuntu-boot as advised on the mailing list | 07:34 |
| ogra | and would have fixed it within 10 mins :) | 07:35 |
| ogra | but that was fixed ages ago ... | 07:35 |
| Erlang | I might have used the wrong channel. I did not get much support from IRC. In fact, I remember providing support to some people wanting to install Xgl. | 07:35 |
| G0SUB | Erlang how did you fix your issue? | 07:37 |
| G0SUB | ogra what's the standard procedure to fix such problems? | 07:37 |
| ogra | G0SUB, follow the development very closely ;) | 07:38 |
| G0SUB | heh | 07:38 |
| ogra | ususally if we have expected brakage like that one, it gets annunced in advance | 07:38 |
| Erlang | GOSUB: Booted from breezy rescue, installed udev and many other packages, fiddled wit the config a bit, and dpkg-reconfigured my kernels several times. That's all I remember. | 07:38 |
| G0SUB | ogra is any such breakage expected now? | 07:38 |
| Erlang | ogra: I'm guilty of not following closely enough. I'm rather new to this. I'll certainly be more wary. | 07:38 |
| ogra | G0SUB, also dont upgrade to a development release to early in the cycle ... | 07:38 |
| G0SUB | ok | 07:39 |
| G0SUB | but today? I am dist-upgrading today | 07:39 |
| ogra | we usually rip everything apart in the beginning and glue it together again :) | 07:39 |
| ogra | we're near the end land past most freezes, upgrade should be fine nowadays | 07:39 |
| ogra | s/land/and | 07:40 |
| G0SUB | ok | 07:40 |
| Erlang | I upgraded just after UVF I think. | 07:40 |
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| dholbach | hrm, we still have no new motu report in place :-/ | 07:55 |
| ogra | who was up to do it ? | 07:55 |
| ogra | or better, was anyone up to do it ? | 07:55 |
| dholbach | whoooooo, it's the BIRTHDAY ISSUE | 07:56 |
| ajmitch | hm? | 07:57 |
| ajmitch | whose birthday? | 07:57 |
| dholbach | MOTU REPORT | 07:57 |
| ajmitch | ok | 07:57 |
| dholbach | and MOTU is just a bit older :) | 07:57 |
| ajmitch | has much been happening in the MOTU world lately? | 07:57 |
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| dholbach | sure | 07:58 |
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| dholbach | "has much been happening in the MOTU world lately?" is not exactly cheery :) | 08:02 |
| ajmitch | sure, but it's mainly been more of the same - more bugfixing :) | 08:03 |
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| ajmitch | sometimes no news is good news :) | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | lol, true | 08:03 |
| dholbach | hrm | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | but we did get some new MOTUs ;-) | 08:03 |
| bddebian | dholbach: Hi Daniel :-) | 08:04 |
| dholbach | hi bddebian | 08:04 |
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| bddebian | :-) | 08:04 |
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| ogra | dholbach, bddebian is back, isnt that worth an erntry in the motu report ? :) | 08:05 |
| bddebian | Not hardly, unless I get my ass in gear :-) | 08:05 |
| Mithrandir | consider it encouragement to do so? :-) | 08:06 |
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| ajmitch | dholbach: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/f-spot/+bug/34799 | 08:07 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 34799 in f-spot "UVF Exception: 0.1.10 -> 0.1.11" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 08:07 |
| ajmitch | :) | 08:07 |
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| bddebian | Mithrandir: :-) | 08:08 |
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| G0SUB | bddebian hello! | 08:32 |
| LaserJock | is there any reasons for a package build to fail in soyuz but work in a pbuilder? | 08:33 |
| LaserJock | they should be essentially the same, right? | 08:34 |
| bddebian | Hello G0SUB | 08:35 |
| G0SUB | bddebian you might know me ... I used to be GNULinuxer ;) | 08:35 |
| bddebian | Ah nice. :-) I REALLY should change my nick :-) | 08:36 |
| G0SUB | bddebian hehe | 08:36 |
| ogra | bdubuntu ? | 08:36 |
| bddebian | bdhurd ;-P | 08:36 |
| ogra | pfft | 08:36 |
| ogra | not unless you ported ubuntu to it | 08:37 |
| G0SUB | bddebian hehe ... | 08:37 |
| slomo | LaserJock: which package is it? something that uses scons? | 08:37 |
| bddebian | bdworthlessass? :-) | 08:37 |
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| LaserJock | slomo: yes, supercollider | 08:37 |
| ajmitch | patron saint of lost causes ;) | 08:37 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Hahaha | 08:37 |
| LaserJock | lol | 08:37 |
| slomo | LaserJock: talk to a buildd admin about it... afaik all scons stuff fails on the buildds | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | slomo: hmmm, ok. That stinks. | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | slomo: thanks for the heads up | 08:38 |
| ajmitch | slomo: thanks for UVF :) | 08:38 |
| slomo | LaserJock: it's the same for ardour iirc | 08:39 |
| slomo | ajmitch: np ;) | 08:39 |
| LaserJock | slomo: at least it isn't just me. I was starting to wonder if something was screwy with my pbuilder | 08:39 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 08:41 |
| LaserJock | hi phanatic | 08:41 |
| phanatic | hey LaserJock | 08:41 |
| bddebian | Hello phanatic | 08:42 |
| phanatic | hi bddebian | 08:45 |
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| netzmeister | re | 09:20 |
| phanatic | hi netzmeister | 09:20 |
| netzmeister | hi phanatic | 09:21 |
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| lucas | sbody up for a tetrinet ? | 09:41 |
| LaserJock | hi lucas | 09:41 |
| lucas | hi lakin :) | 09:41 |
| lucas | oops | 09:41 |
| lucas | LaserJock: | 09:41 |
| lucas | I really hate xchat's completion mode | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | me too | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | lucas: I was tweaking my script for MOTU Science that uses mdt. I was wondering how you pick out just Universe/Multiverse packages? | 09:43 |
| lucas | you could select by section using grep-dctrl | 09:44 |
| LaserJock | lucas: can you grep for more than one thing with grep-dctrl | 09:45 |
| LaserJock | lucas: I just did it in two steps and then used mdt filter | 09:46 |
| lucas | I dunno | 09:46 |
| LaserJock | well, anyway I got something that works | 09:47 |
| LaserJock | although I couldn't get a fresh bzr branch to work | 09:47 |
| lucas | ah ? | 09:48 |
| LaserJock | something wasn't working in versions2html.rb | 09:48 |
| LaserJock | I think it gave an error having to do with net/http | 09:49 |
| lucas | where are you running it ? | 09:51 |
| lucas | tiber ? | 09:52 |
| LaserJock | oh, and debian/control should have a dep on grep-dctrl I think | 09:52 |
| LaserJock | lucas: no, on my local machine | 09:52 |
| lucas | you need to install libopenssl-ruby | 09:52 |
| lucas | well, debian/control needs updating :-) | 09:52 |
| lucas | lots of deps missing | 09:52 |
| lucas | feel free to work on that if you feel like it | 09:52 |
| LaserJock | but I couldn't figure out if the "net/http" problem was because of a dep | 09:54 |
| lucas | probably: it requires libopenssl-ruby to be able to fetch https:// urls | 09:54 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I don't have that | 09:55 |
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| lucas | doing ubuntu work is sometimes impressively frustrating. | 10:08 |
| phanatic | lucas: what do you mean? | 10:08 |
| LaserJock | lucas: ah, libopenssl-ruby fixed it. now it works | 10:09 |
| lucas | I'm just trying to build librmagick-ruby on ubuntu. it build-depends on cdbs >= 0.4.33 because 0.4.33 fixed debian bug #284231. | 10:10 |
| Ubugtu | debian bug 284231 in cdbs "dpatch-edit-patch doesn't work" [Normal,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/284231 | 10:10 |
| lucas | cdbs in ubuntu has diverged a lot and is 0.4.32ubuntu13. | 10:10 |
| lucas | I can't work on an updated version because the base version (0.4.32) is no longer available anywhere (broken morgue) | 10:11 |
| dholbach | what are you trying to do now? | 10:11 |
| lucas | so I can't determine what's changed | 10:11 |
| lucas | I dunno yet | 10:11 |
| lucas | I could try to backport the change to cdbs anyway, making it diverge even more | 10:12 |
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| lucas | or I could change librmagick-ruby build system to make it compatible with the buggy cdbs | 10:13 |
| dholbach | if that's enough to depress you, then file a bug about cdbs | 10:13 |
| lucas | i'm the debian maintainer for librmagick-ruby, so it's quite strange to have to divert my own packages :) | 10:13 |
| dholbach | I'd try to focus on making stuff work, not on not creating diversion - maybe that helps :) | 10:15 |
| lucas | then, the only way to fix this would be to merge the new debian version, which fixes a lot of bugs | 10:17 |
| lucas | but merging cdbs 0.4.32ubuntu*13* and cdbs 0.4.36 without 0.4.32 doesn't look like something easy to do | 10:17 |
| dholbach | then just change your package | 10:18 |
| dholbach | and file a bug | 10:18 |
| dholbach | i mean forward the bug to launchpad | 10:18 |
| lucas | I filed the bug, will wait for a few days and see what happens | 10:19 |
| lucas | ah, I could just override the rule in debian/rules. will do that. | 10:20 |
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| Kyral | arg | 10:22 |
| Kyral | this laptop is configured for Debian Sid lol | 10:22 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: and that is a problem? | 10:24 |
| Kyral | No | 10:24 |
| Kyral | I was suggetsing it for cleanup of the tree :P | 10:24 |
| Kyral | whoops wrong chan | 10:25 |
| Kyral | damn you LJ lol | 10:25 |
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| Kyral | I thought you said that in #ubuntu-doc | 10:26 |
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| dholbach | night guys | 11:17 |
| phanatic | nite dholbach | 11:17 |
| dholbach | night phanatic | 11:18 |
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| sivang | any MOTU here for a sponsered upload? | 11:40 |
| LaserJock | what do you need? | 11:41 |
| sivang | LaserJock: first upload of HomeUserBackup, in accordance with mdz's approval to upload it to other people could help me finish it. | 11:41 |
| sivang | LaserJock: would also appricaite if you could check it;'s building in pbuilder, and installs and runs under a clean chroot which I don't poses at the momnet. | 11:42 |
| LaserJock | sivang: is it on REVU? | 11:42 |
| sivang | LaserJock: nope , is not. must I put it through REVU before? | 11:43 |
| sivang | LaserJock: and if this is a must, what do I need in order to upload to REVU? | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | sivang: you don't have to but it is easier for people to check it out, etc. | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | sivang: check out wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU for more info. | 11:44 |
| LaserJock | sivang: I don't know if I have time right now to do that in-depth of a check. If you give me a URL for the source package I can at least take a glance at it. | 11:45 |
| sivang | LaserJock: sirestart signed my key at UBZ, but not sure I have had the oppurtunity to sign his since them. will this be a problem for uploaidng to REVU? | 11:45 |
| sivang | LaserJock: sure, will do | 11:45 |
| LaserJock | sivang: you just need to send a signed email to keyring@tiber.tauware.de if your key is uploaded to the the ubuntu key server already | 11:46 |
| sivang | LaserJock: ah okay, cool. | 11:47 |
| sivang | LaserJock: http://muse.19inch.net/~sivan/upbs/ | 11:55 |
| sivang | LaserJock: I wonder if I need have .orig.tar.gz for a full source upload, as it was not created as I carried the build process. let me know if this is an issue. | 11:56 |
| sivang | LaserJock: if you're busy, I coudl ask some other people for a review | 11:57 |
| LaserJock | um, yeah. we need the .orig.tar.gz . you need to add -sa to debuild or dpkg-buildpackage or whatever you are using to build the source package :-) | 11:57 |
| Spec | heya sivang | 11:58 |
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