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| Riddell | goldenear: I do, but you should be able to get kde4base from edgy now | 12:33 |
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| goldenear | Riddell: I still have the wrong size message... | 12:38 |
| === gnomefreak thinks if there is going to be a 3.5.5 release it should be soon. i was told kde4 is being released in jan. but that holds no meaning to me as there hasnt been a date set that i know of | ||
| Riddell | it won't be released in january, much later than that | 12:41 |
| Riddell | goldenear: just get it from the normal ubuntu archive, not mine | 12:42 |
| goldenear | It seems to work now after an apt-get clean | 12:42 |
| Riddell | groovy :) | 12:43 |
| Riddell | good luck, I'm off to bed | 12:43 |
| goldenear | :) | 12:43 |
| goldenear | good night | 12:43 |
| goldenear | nop... it doesn't work... | 12:43 |
| goldenear | same problem :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( | 12:44 |
| goldenear | oops, I've a problem with my keyboard | 12:47 |
| goldenear | ok, I remove your repository from my source list and it works :) | 12:47 |
| goldenear | kde 4 installed :) | 12:47 |
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| Hobbsee | hey all | 05:34 |
| imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 05:34 |
| Hobbsee | hey imbrandon | 05:34 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: did we get packages for testing? | 05:34 |
| imbrandon | of? | 05:35 |
| imbrandon | 3.5.5 ? | 05:35 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 05:35 |
| imbrandon | yea riddell put some up but i cant use them yet ( i386 only ) | 05:35 |
| === Hobbsee wonders where... | ||
| imbrandon | deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 edgy main | 05:36 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 05:36 |
| === Hobbsee upgrades | ||
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: Have you checked your space/bandwidth on DH today ? | 05:38 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: Your allowed space/bandwidth that is | 05:39 |
| imbrandon | Hawkwind, no but i should be no where near it | 05:39 |
| === imbrandon looks now | ||
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: You won't be after todays nice little bonus they added | 05:39 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: They upped everything by 10x | 05:39 |
| Hawkwind | So your 20GB is now 200GB space, and your bandwidth is now 2TB per month | 05:40 |
| imbrandon | holy shit they did ? | 05:40 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: Yeppers | 05:40 |
| Lathiat | DH? | 05:40 |
| imbrandon | my bandwidth was 2TB before | 05:40 |
| Hawkwind | http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting.html | 05:40 |
| Hobbsee | dreamhost | 05:40 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: Then it's 4TB probably | 05:40 |
| === imbrandon looks | ||
| imbrandon | HOLY JESUS | 05:41 |
| === imbrandon dances | ||
| Hawkwind | Hah | 05:42 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: Isn't that really nice | 05:42 |
| imbrandon | yea 400gb disk space and 4TB bandwidth | 05:42 |
| imbrandon | is this perminate ? | 05:42 |
| Hawkwind | Hah | 05:42 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: Yeppers | 05:42 |
| Hawkwind | Read that URL I posted | 05:42 |
| imbrandon | nice | 05:42 |
| Hawkwind | The URL is for new users, but the space/bw is for all current users | 05:42 |
| imbrandon | i got the news letter yesterday but i dident read it yet | 05:42 |
| imbrandon | dude that rocks | 05:43 |
| imbrandon | did you ever get an account ? | 05:43 |
| Hawkwind | I just signed up tonight because of this deal :) | 05:43 |
| imbrandon | nice | 05:44 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: I paid $19.41 for a full year of the smallest package deal. 200GB/space and 2TB/bandwidth for under $20 for the first year | 05:44 |
| imbrandon | very cool | 05:44 |
| imbrandon | 20$ for the full YEAR | 05:44 |
| imbrandon | or 20 a month ? | 05:44 |
| Hawkwind | My 1and1 account just renewed 3 days ago so I've got 3 months to get everything transferred over | 05:45 |
| Hawkwind | $20 for the first *year* :) | 05:45 |
| imbrandon | fskin nice, i payed almost 300 for my first year | 05:45 |
| imbrandon | lol | 05:45 |
| Hawkwind | Heh | 05:45 |
| Hawkwind | They are offering a $99.99 code for today only | 05:45 |
| Hawkwind | Not like I couldn't get a $97 code tomorrow of course from a couple of people | 05:45 |
| imbrandon | very cool | 05:45 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 05:45 |
| Hawkwind | abattoir just signed up with them about a week ago and got the 20GB account. He's going to freak when he sees it's now 200GB | 05:46 |
| imbrandon | heh you all should have signed up under me ;) | 05:46 |
| imbrandon | lol | 05:46 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: Another friend of mine gave him the code so he got the great deal :) | 05:47 |
| imbrandon | dude i'm gonna go play with my wesite hehe | 05:47 |
| Hawkwind | LOL. Lots of stuff to fill up that space now | 05:47 |
| imbrandon | Hawkwind, well if you know anyone else i'll hook them up ;) | 05:47 |
| imbrandon | yup yup | 05:47 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: Kewl kewl. I'll be able to give out codes now too :) | 05:47 |
| imbrandon | well i host a few other people too, i'm gonna up their limits | 05:47 |
| Hawkwind | Means I've got work to do on my website now since I have a banner for 1and1 across each page of it | 05:47 |
| imbrandon | thanks for pointing that out man | 05:48 |
| imbrandon | that ROCKS | 05:48 |
| Hawkwind | Heh no problem. I knew you'd be excited | 05:48 |
| Hawkwind | The only reason I hadn't switched yet was because of the drop in space I would take from 150GB to 60GB. Now I get more space for half the price :) | 05:49 |
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| Hobbsee | imbrandon: do we know what happened to the later version of kopete? | 07:00 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if we have a changelog | ||
| imbrandon | as in ? | 07:01 |
| imbrandon | what kopete ? | 07:01 |
| === imbrandon missed something | ||
| Hobbsee | kopete is supposed to release 0.12.3 with kde 3.5.5 | 07:02 |
| Hobbsee | [15:03] *** The channel topic is ""Kopete 0.12.3 to be released with KDE 3.5.5 || Kopete 0.12.2 downloadable at http://kopete.kde.org/releases.php || Where do you use Kopete? http://www.frappr.com/kopetepeople || Kopete: Home to the sexiest IM developers in the world. || Want to help with Kopete 1.0? See http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete+Setup+KDE4DevEnv to get started || MSN is sick (server side): | 07:03 |
| Hobbsee | http://status.messenger.msn.com/Status.aspx". | 07:03 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, ahh then its probably with kdenetowrk like it was before | 07:04 |
| Hobbsee | we're keeping it split, iirc | 07:04 |
| imbrandon | right but it might not be at this moment | 07:04 |
| Hobbsee | kde.org changed their site :) | 07:04 |
| === Hobbsee should grab the source and go look. | ||
| Hobbsee | http://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_4to3_5_5.php | 07:05 |
| Hobbsee | hey nice, hopefully this means we have less trouble with kdesu | 07:08 |
| Hobbsee | Conversation with su failed. | 07:12 |
| Hobbsee | hha | 07:12 |
| Hobbsee | *hah | 07:12 |
| Hobbsee | when trying to launch adept, from the kmenu | 07:12 |
| Hobbsee | same with trying to hit administrator password in system settings | 07:16 |
| Hobbsee | apart from that, i havent noticed any problems | 07:16 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 07:17 |
| Hobbsee | oh, wait, yes there is | 07:17 |
| Hobbsee | show windows from all desktops no longer works | 07:17 |
| Hobbsee | what the.... | 07:17 |
| Hobbsee | kicker's very borked | 07:17 |
| imbrandon | i'm sure your testing all this on a new user account right ? | 07:18 |
| Hobbsee | um, no? | 07:18 |
| Hobbsee | good point | 07:18 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 07:18 |
| imbrandon | and those are untested debs ( even by Riddell himself ) heh | 07:18 |
| imbrandon | anyhow brb i got to reboot ;) | 07:18 |
| nixternal | you gotta love bip, he says he is rebooting yet he never leaves ;) | 07:24 |
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| Hobbsee | awww crap | 07:31 |
| === Hobbsee kicks her system | ||
| === Hobbsee lost her .kde/ | ||
| Lathiat | ouch | 07:33 |
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| Hobbsee | mv .kde_old/ .kde doesnt seem to ovewrite the .kde/ folder as i would have expected | 07:35 |
| Hobbsee | it just deletes .kde_old and keeps .kde/ | 07:35 |
| Lathiat | erm | 07:35 |
| Lathiat | no | 07:35 |
| Lathiat | it would have moved to .kde/.kde_old | 07:35 |
| Lathiat | so you probably havent lost it ) | 07:36 |
| Lathiat | so mv .kde .kde2; mv .kde2/.kde_old .kde | 07:36 |
| Lathiat | should get you back right | 07:36 |
| Lathiat | assuming you didnt go rm -rf .kde in a fit of rage :) | 07:39 |
| imbrandon | heh | 07:39 |
| Lathiat | (because thats what i'd do) | 07:40 |
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| Hobbsee | Lathiat: what's the last bit? just .kde? | 07:41 |
| Lathiat | yeh | 07:42 |
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| fubuntu | hello, do any of you guys have a funny module.h? | 07:45 |
| fubuntu | mine's hilariously stupid | 07:45 |
| fubuntu | ... can someone please help me figure out why i get 'attr' and 'kobj' errors when compiling modules? | 07:46 |
| fubuntu | google's lost its touch for this subject | 07:46 |
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| nixternal | i guess #kubuntu-devel has as well ;) | 07:57 |
| nixternal | oh well, g'nite | 07:57 |
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| Hobbsee | argh. it's a bug in pager or something. | 08:10 |
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| Hobbsee | grr. | 08:13 |
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| allee | moin | 08:50 |
| Hobbsee | hey allee | 08:53 |
| allee | Hi Hobbsee, eventually I started the kde-extras in alioth for kubuntu pkgs page. Suggestions for a good pagename welcome ;) | 08:55 |
| Hobbsee | allee: yay :) | 08:56 |
| Hobbsee | allee: i was always shocking with names. | 08:56 |
| allee | Hobbsee: heh. When it keeps raining I may even finish it today ;) | 08:57 |
| Hobbsee | hehe :) | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | what's in it? | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | well, will more be put in it? | 08:58 |
| allee | wiki or svn? | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | svn, i think | 08:59 |
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| allee | Hobbsee: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde contains all KDE main pkgs and in kde-extras lots of others kde apps | 09:01 |
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| allee | Hobbsee: what will be added depends on the KDE Extras devels (and of course the kubuntu devels) | 09:02 |
| Hobbsee | allee: yeah, fair enough | 09:02 |
| Hobbsee | allee: i've just had a thought. for any new kde programs, should we be shoving them into debian first, then syncing them? | 09:03 |
| allee | Hobbsee: that's what I do ;) | 09:03 |
| Hobbsee | allee: right. who do we have to upload to the debian repos? you a DD? | 09:03 |
| allee | no. DD process was a night mare when I felt motivated. Now I have a quick sponsor and motivation drop to near yero ;) | 09:04 |
| Hobbsee | allee: near yero? | 09:04 |
| allee | Not sure I'll ever try to apply for DD | 09:04 |
| Hobbsee | allee: nice, okay. so it's not hard to get stuff in | 09:05 |
| allee | argl. german keyboard. s/yero/zero/ | 09:05 |
| Hobbsee | ahh :) | 09:05 |
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| fabo | Hobbsee: could you confirm 62790 | 09:24 |
| imbrandon | bug 62790 | 09:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 62790 in kvpnc "Please sync kvpnc (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62790 | 09:30 |
| imbrandon | fabo, done | 09:31 |
| imbrandon | fabo, you do kbfx in debian also right ? | 09:31 |
| fabo | yes | 09:31 |
| imbrandon | fabo, wana request a sync for that real fast too and i'll ack it | 09:32 |
| imbrandon | shouldent be any delta iirc | 09:32 |
| imbrandon | but make sure | 09:32 |
| fabo | imbrandon: i fixed some bug upstream, and a new release should be published. it explains why i didn't request a sync atm | 09:32 |
| imbrandon | ahh ok | 09:33 |
| fabo | i want to have 0.4.9.2 final instead rc :) | 09:33 |
| imbrandon | right , but will they release in time to get it in edgy | 09:34 |
| imbrandon | ? | 09:34 |
| fabo | it must be released tomorrow | 09:34 |
| imbrandon | ahh nice ok | 09:35 |
| fabo | if they don't release it, i'll prepare at least 0492+cvs patch | 09:35 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 09:35 |
| fabo | anyway, thks for kvpnc confirmation :) | 09:36 |
| allee | fabo: hi | 09:58 |
| allee | fabo: any idea how to name a wiki page that invits kubuntu devels to commit their kubuntu independent changes directly to kde-extras repo? | 09:59 |
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| allee | fabo: a start of the page exists only in my kate puffer right now ;) | 10:08 |
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| fabo | allee: kutnubu or kubuntu debian collaboration (KDC) or kubuntu debian collaborative maintenance ;) | 10:16 |
| allee | fabo: mhhm, too general :( Tt's KDE apps only KDEAppsDebianPkgCollaboration KDEAppsDebianCollaboration KDEExtrasPkg KDEExtrasKubuntu ... ? | 10:21 |
| fabo | allee: only extras package could be affected or also core kde modules ? | 10:23 |
| allee | fabo: kde core stuff is different I assume. I _assume_ that some sort of well knownness of the author to the Qt/KDE Team is necessary before one get's commit rights | 10:25 |
| allee | fabo: well, to get some kde-extra commit right, he/she should be known in this channel ;) | 10:27 |
| fabo | so we can go for KubuntuDebianKDEExtrasCollaboration ;) | 10:28 |
| allee | Long but cool :) | 10:28 |
| fabo | all informations are in the title ;) | 10:29 |
| allee | right. I'll use it. | 10:29 |
| allee | fabo: in the case for kde apps not yet in kde-extras. Any idea about a policy? Okay to commit right away independent if there's a sponsor right now, or first ask on pkg-kde-extras ml? | 10:31 |
| imbrandon | KubuntuKDEExtras sounds good to me | 10:31 |
| imbrandon | allee, and it would be nice if i could get commit access | 10:31 |
| allee | imbrandon: ah, a test user. See: http://rafb.net/paste/results/LmAQJs83.html | 10:32 |
| allee | imbrandon: it's quite some time ago that I went through the procedure. I hope I remembered it right ;) | 10:33 |
| fabo | allee: any kde apps not yet in kde-extras ? :D | 10:34 |
| allee | fabo: I doubt that you miss one! | 10:35 |
| fabo | allee: if you ahev commit rights, i assume that you can commit right away | 10:35 |
| fabo | have | 10:36 |
| allee | fabo: yes, the ACL is valid for everything below kde-extras | 10:36 |
| fabo | allee: and i have done like that. i mean when i want to add a new package, i push it without asking on ml | 10:36 |
| allee | fabo: can you add a paragraph how to do it? I used svn-inject only once ;) | 10:38 |
| fabo | allee: i never used any svn-* tools :) | 10:39 |
| allee | fabo: really? I thought you're the expert :) | 10:39 |
| fabo | oh no it is mark :=) | 10:39 |
| fabo | but i know some tricks that we can use | 10:40 |
| allee | heh, this proves that svn-* knowledge is not necessary. Good. | 10:41 |
| fabo | i'll complete the wiki page when you finish to work on it ;) | 10:41 |
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| fabo | imbrandon: i saw that you worked on dh_iconcache ? | 11:04 |
| imbrandon | yea i did a few of those last cycle | 11:04 |
| fabo | imbrandon: in gnome.mk they use dh_iconcache , is it the same behavior for kde ? | 11:05 |
| imbrandon | it is now, wasent the case then ( those were done about 5 months ago ) | 11:05 |
| fabo | oh nice :) | 11:05 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:06 |
| fabo | imbrandon: coul you take a look at 62306 :) | 11:06 |
| fabo | +d | 11:06 |
| imbrandon | sure , bug 62306 | 11:06 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 62306 in kimdaba "Please sync kimdaba (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62306 | 11:06 |
| fabo | my last issue was dh_iconcache ;) | 11:06 |
| Hobbsee | fabo: correct. i hacked it :P | 11:07 |
| fabo | so if it is now in kde.mk, it's resolved :p | 11:07 |
| fabo | Hobbsee: good work :) | 11:07 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 11:07 |
| imbrandon | fabo, done ( it does use kde.mk correct ? ) | 11:08 |
| fabo | yes | 11:09 |
| fabo | thks all ;) | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | kk commented and ack'd | 11:09 |
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| Hobbsee | that's darned unacceptable. | 11:49 |
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| allee | fabo, imbrandon and all others: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKDEExtras | 12:18 |
| allee | please fix any bug, stupid explanations ^^ | 12:18 |
| allee | it stopped raining here, so I have work outside this afternoon. BB tonight. | 12:19 |
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| Tonio__ | imbrandon: ping ? | 12:49 |
| imbrandon | Tonio__, pong | 12:50 |
| Tonio__ | imbrandon: I'm currently porting all beryl packages to edgy, fancy testing when done ? | 12:51 |
| Tonio__ | I tested and that's pretty nice :) | 12:51 |
| imbrandon | Tonio__, sure | 12:52 |
| Tonio__ | okay I'll let you know :) | 12:52 |
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| Hobbsee | Tonio_: tried kde 3.5.5 yet? | 01:38 |
| Hobbsee | *has only had two bugs* | 01:38 |
| Hobbsee | one showstopper, one great annoyance. | 01:38 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: not yet, but I will give a try today | 01:40 |
| fabo | Qt 4.2.0 released also | 01:42 |
| Riddell | fabo: pubilcly? | 01:42 |
| fabo | yes | 01:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: can you remind me the repo for 3.5.5 ? | 01:43 |
| Riddell | ooh, so it is | 01:43 |
| Riddell | 18:14 < Riddell> ** for the brave deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/ edgy main | 01:43 |
| Tm_T | :) | 01:43 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: I'll try those | 01:44 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: so, upgrade went smooth? | 01:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: thanks | 01:45 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: what's the bugs? kdesu presumably | 01:45 |
| Lure | Riddell: 355 is ok today, just kdesu and desktop pager bug are still here | 01:46 |
| Tm_T | Lure: what pager bug? | 01:46 |
| Lure | Tm_T: desktop pager in panel does not work (cannot move windows, cannot switch desktops) | 01:47 |
| Tm_T | weird | 01:47 |
| Lure | Tm_T: multiple desktops work though if I click already running app on tackbar | 01:47 |
| Lure | s/tackbar/taskbar/ | 01:47 |
| Tm_T | works here just fine | 01:47 |
| Tm_T | but I compile from svn | 01:47 |
| Tm_T | I'll give a try to packaged one | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | for those interested i ntesting beryl : http://ubuntu.tonio.homelinux.org/ | 01:50 |
| Tonio_ | simply "apt-get install beryl emerald-themes", then start beryl-manager | 01:51 |
| Tm_T | what's beryl? | 01:51 |
| gnomefreak | Tonio_: it will add the nvidia-beta and all the other beryl apps? | 01:51 |
| gnomefreak | !beryl | 01:51 |
| ubotu | beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You. | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: not the nvidia part | 01:51 |
| gnomefreak | Tonio_: ok | 01:51 |
| Tm_T | aah | 01:52 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: you have the list of packages I ported to edgy on the page | 01:52 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: a few bugs, but globaly it works, pretty nicelly | 01:53 |
| gnomefreak | Tonio_: mine worked for a while than emerald was causing beryl to crash i had reinstalled ubuntu to test beta disk and i havetn gotten back to it yet | 01:53 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: I didn't experienced any crash here | 01:54 |
| Tonio_ | but well that's just for fun, the future will be with metacity and kwin | 01:54 |
| gnomefreak | Tonio_: either way to run it you either need beta drivers or xgl and im not real happy with xgl | 01:54 |
| Tonio_ | compiz/beryl or other projects are just demo things in my opinion | 01:55 |
| gnomefreak | agreed | 01:55 |
| Tonio_ | as is xgl, too | 01:55 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: well with nvidia yes, but with intel chip, no need of this | 01:56 |
| gnomefreak | Tonio_: yeah i forgot intel | 01:56 |
| Tonio_ | beryl is nice, except not as fluid as compiz in my opinion | 01:56 |
| Tonio_ | I read on the web that we could have a good surprise with kwin in 3.5.6 | 01:59 |
| === gnomefreak gonna be trying 3.5.5 after i update | ||
| gnomefreak | brb got an hour and half for updates | 02:01 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: kdesu, and the pager bug | 02:01 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: you still can switch desktops. in fact, it all works if you get rid of the pager applet.. | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | i havent seen anything else yet | 02:02 |
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: do you see the kwallet icon in the systray ? | 02:03 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: i've got it disabled anyway | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: point | 02:04 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: ah... because we need to find out if that bug is still there...... I will check myself in a few minutes :) | 02:04 |
| Lure | Tonio_: kwallet is still there in 355 | 02:05 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: kwallet is there or kwallet bug ? :) | 02:05 |
| === Hobbsee can force it there, and it was there when i lost my config, so yes | ||
| Hobbsee | what's the kwallet bug? | 02:05 |
| Lure | Tonio_: it works as it should | 02:05 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: it didn't appear in the systray with 3.5.3 and 3.5.4 | 02:05 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: kwallet did not appear in taskbar | 02:05 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 02:05 |
| Hobbsee | does now | 02:05 |
| Hobbsee | if you tell it to | 02:05 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I had to make a 3.5.2 downgrade patch | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | ahh... | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | it's there, taking up space :P | 02:09 |
| === Tonio_ restarting kde | ||
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: confirmed for the pager applet | 02:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and kwallet doesn't need to be re-patched (good point !) | 02:12 |
| gnomefreak | i had kwallet in sys tray and up on my applications menu icon in gnome | 02:13 |
| gnomefreak | in 3.5.4 | 02:13 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: I patched it | 02:13 |
| gnomefreak | ah ok | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | more upgrades :) | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | meeting on the 5th, 2100 UTC? | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: ping ? | 02:21 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: I don't find the kcontrol module to reconfigure keyboard shortcuts | 02:21 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: okay we have the gestures component, but they don't duplicate, they are complementary... | 02:22 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: there are things that you cannot configure without the first one | 02:22 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: for example the shortcut to switch to the next desktop | 02:22 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: we should had it back | 02:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the "middle click scroll" bug is resolved :) | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | on textareas is pastes and doesn't activate the scroll | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | ah... no still there...... | 02:24 |
| Tonio_ | works on text input | 02:24 |
| gnomefreak | armarok gets the lyrics from an outside source right? | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: that's there.... | 02:26 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: if it works on text inputs and not textareas, I assume we should be able to patch this.... | 02:27 |
| Tonio_ | shouldn't be that complicated, I'll have a look | 02:27 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: sorry, i meant that the keyboard shortcuts module is still there. such as shortcut to switching to next desktop | 02:28 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: at least in current ubuntu version | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | were is it in k-s-s ? | 02:28 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: keyboard and mouse, keyboard shortcuts | 02:29 |
| Tonio_ | ahhhhhhhh, I thought that would be in accessibility | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | nope | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: try the search bar :P | 02:29 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: forget me :) | 02:29 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: hum, true hehe :) | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: :D | 02:29 |
| Tonio_ | http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/20 | 02:32 |
| Tonio_ | minipager debdiff........ | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: what's the status of kde 3.5.5 w.r.t kopete packages? | 02:32 |
| Tonio_ | quite a lot of changes | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I'm diffing with svn to see if there is potentially a fix | 02:34 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: nice :) | 02:34 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: I asked a kopete dude if there's been any changes but got no reply, we'll just stick with separate kopete packages unless I hear there's been any changes | 02:34 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: sounds good to me. according to the topic in #kopete, they're distributing kopete 0.12.3 with kde 3.5.5, but i havent looked any closer with that. | 02:35 |
| Riddell | hmm, that sounds like there are changes | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | rather | 02:36 |
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| Tonio_ | hi el | 02:38 |
| el | hi Tonio_ :) | 02:39 |
| Hobbsee | hey el! | 02:39 |
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| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: sure he does. | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: your kdeaddons bug that i was supposed to fix can go away now, too | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | i cant see it in my inbox anymore | 02:46 |
| gnomefreak | ok let me see if i can find it. did i file it? | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | i couldnt see it under kdeaddons | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | it'll either be under that or metabar | 02:48 |
| gnomefreak | k looking | 02:48 |
| gnomefreak | the guy with the bank account issue? | 02:52 |
| gnomefreak | i dont have any left open on metabar/kdeaddons | 02:53 |
| gnomefreak | a bunch of crashes still open kicker konq. and so on | 02:53 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: i can reproduce that bank account issue | 02:53 |
| gnomefreak | ok | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I think I have a patch for minipager | 02:54 |
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: let's build and we'll see in a moment | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: woot! | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: sounds good to me :) | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | i want my pager back! | 02:54 |
| gnomefreak | marked it as confirmed | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/21 | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: there was a change 3 days ago in the svn, 3.5 branch | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | and looking at the code, it talks about your problem (at least itseems too) | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | let's go :) | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: nice :) | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: you're rebuilding there? | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: yes, I'm testing and telling you | 02:56 |
| seaLne | anyone know what information is required for a usefull xorg bug about autodetection getting it wrong? | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: ahh, gotcha :) | 02:56 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: yes kopete 0.12.3 will be shipped in kde 3.5.5 | 02:58 |
| Tm_T | 0.12 branch has been moved back to 3.5 branch | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: cool. so where is it? are they going to release it separately as well, or what? | 02:59 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: it's where kopete should be, kdenetwork | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: right. guess that was a rather stupid question | 02:59 |
| Tm_T | how come? | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | well, where else would they distribute it, if they werent releasing separately? | 03:01 |
| Tm_T | hmm, true | 03:01 |
| Tm_T | you just did ask before think, typical to humans | 03:01 |
| === Tm_T has been thinking human behaviour a lot lately | ||
| Hobbsee | you're calling me normal? how odd. | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | i guess you're calling me human. | 03:04 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 03:04 |
| Lure | seaLne: at least Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf | 03:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: do you plan to ask for uvf exception request for kde or is that definitly too late ? | 03:07 |
| seaLne | Lure: the issue is it uses ati instead of radeon which means it dosen't work | 03:07 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: if we can fix kdesu and desktop pager I do | 03:08 |
| Lure | seaLne: I think that "ati" is generic driver name and thsi driver is supposed to autodetect card and do "radeon" mode | 03:08 |
| Riddell | kdesu will be my fault, I'm looking at that now | 03:08 |
| Riddell | desktop pager I've no idea | 03:08 |
| Lure | Riddell: Tonio_ has some pacth for destkop | 03:08 |
| Riddell | oh? | 03:08 |
| Lure | http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/21 | 03:08 |
| Lure | in KDE svn | 03:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm testing to see if that fixes the pager | 03:09 |
| Lure | Riddell: we just need to test if it works | 03:09 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: it is currently building here | 03:09 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: how did you work that out? | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: and maybe syslog? | 03:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: diff with svn ;) | 03:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: there was a commit on minipager 3 days ago | 03:09 |
| Tonio_ | on branch 3.5 | 03:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: when did you sync this ? | 03:10 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: sync what? | 03:10 |
| Tonio_ | the svn | 03:11 |
| Riddell | I've not touched svn | 03:11 |
| Tonio_ | hehe, I'm just asking when did you get the svn source ? because there are differences between your tarball and the current content of 3.5 branch, especially concerning the minipager | 03:12 |
| Tonio_ | that's how I got the diff | 03:12 |
| Tm_T | hrrr | 03:13 |
| Tm_T | login gave me hit with both bugs, pager and su | 03:13 |
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| Tonio_ | why isn't kde improving kdesu si that we can switch between su and sudo within a kdesurc file ? | 03:15 |
| Tonio_ | that would be nice, lots of distros are using sudo now... | 03:15 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: I merged my kdesu sudo patches into 3.5 branch | 03:16 |
| Riddell | which is probably what's caused this problem | 03:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah okay :) | 03:16 |
| Tm_T | hmm, is there any temporary workaround? gksudo doesn't apply my settings to running app | 03:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: concerning the joystick modules, I think if we change the cxxflags just for that part, removing -ansi, we should be able to compile it | 03:18 |
| Tonio_ | but I don't know if this is possible..... changing the flags just for a subfolder... in makefile.am probably ? | 03:18 |
| Tonio_ | I'll test this today | 03:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: did you pbuild or debuild your package ? | 03:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ftbfs here... | 03:23 |
| Tonio_ | /tmp/buildd/kdebase-3.5.5/./kdialog/progressdialog.cpp: In member function 'virt ual void ProgressDialog::ignoreCancel()': | 03:23 |
| Tonio_ | /tmp/buildd/kdebase-3.5.5/./kdialog/progressdialog.cpp:90: error: 'ignoreCancel' is not a member of 'KProgressDialog' | 03:23 |
| Tonio_ | make[3] : *** [kdialog.all_cpp.o] Error 1 | 03:23 |
| gnomefreak | has anyone updated kmplayer in the past month? | 03:25 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: yes, me, why ? | 03:25 |
| Tm_T | gnomefreak: I use svn version, does it count? | 03:25 |
| gnomefreak | bug 53287 | 03:25 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 53287 in kdebase "Konqueror crash opening video" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/53287 | 03:25 |
| gnomefreak | looks like in the backtrace that kmplayer but i might be reading that wrong | 03:26 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: that's probably kaffeine issue | 03:26 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: the bug is old, so I would say it was kaffeine kpart in use | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | ok ill ask if it still happening | 03:27 |
| === Tonio_ reading the trace | ||
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: I'm pretty sure that's kaffeine | 03:27 |
| gnomefreak | ok ty | 03:27 |
| Tonio_ | that's because of that error that we switched to kmplayer | 03:27 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: confirmed, I can't pbuild kdebase here.... it fails | 03:44 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: even against kdelibs 3.5.5? | 03:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hehe I don't have the source repo for this :) | 03:46 |
| Riddell | ignoreCancel is in kprogress.h in kde 3.5.5 | 03:46 |
| === Tonio_ is stupid sometomes :) | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: have a source repo for kdelibs ? | 03:46 |
| Riddell | up now, same as binary | 03:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, thanks | 03:47 |
| Lure | is it just me or does akregator hang (with CPU load) on this RSS feed: http://www.codeweavers.com/about/general/news/?cmd=rss | 03:47 |
| Riddell | Lure: works for me | 03:48 |
| Lure | Riddell: interesting... | 03:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: sorry but what is the binary repo for kdelibs ? | 03:50 |
| Tonio_ | same than kdebase ? | 03:50 |
| Riddell | deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/ edgy main | 03:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I don't see kdelibs 3.5.5 there | 03:51 |
| Tonio_ | I mean I have the sources, but not the binaries | 03:52 |
| Riddell | kdelibs4c2a is definately in there for i386 | 03:53 |
| Riddell | how did you test kde 3.5.5 again? | 03:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: when I apt-get source, kdelibs, it takes 3.5.5, but when I apt-cache search kdelibs, it show 3.5.4..... | 03:53 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: use apt-cache madison, perhaps | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | kdelibs | 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 | http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Packages | 03:54 |
| Tonio_ | apt-cache show kdelibs | grep Version -> Version: 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu18 | 03:55 |
| Tonio_ | what the hell is this ? | 03:55 |
| Riddell | do you have the deb line in source.list? | 03:55 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah I have both binary and source repos | 03:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I upgraded kde....... | 03:55 |
| Tonio_ | I don't understand...... | 03:56 |
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| Tonio_ | tonio@kubuntu:~$ grep kubuntu /etc/apt/sources.list | 03:56 |
| Tonio_ | deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/ edgy main | 03:56 |
| Tonio_ | deb-src http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/ edgy main | 03:56 |
| Tonio_ | what the hell....... | 03:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is your packages.gz up to date ? | 03:57 |
| Riddell | works for me | 03:58 |
| Riddell | i386 only of course | 03:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: cache issue probably........ I'll clean apt | 03:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes, I have i386 too | 03:58 |
| Tonio_ | no, same problem........ | 04:01 |
| Tonio_ | damn....... | 04:01 |
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| abattoir | Riddell: hi, oem-config works properly (*finally*), in today's build... | 04:02 |
| abattoir | Riddell: after it is run, the default user in the kdm login screen is 'oem',(since oem logged in in the previous session), could this be made blank? | 04:03 |
| bddebian | Howdy folks | 04:03 |
| abattoir | hi bddebian :) | 04:04 |
| bddebian | Hello abattoir | 04:04 |
| Riddell | abattoir: just need to remove that from wherever its saved | 04:05 |
| Riddell | abattoir: trouble is I've no idea where it's saved | 04:05 |
| abattoir | kdmrc maybe? | 04:05 |
| abattoir | i'll try to find out | 04:05 |
| Riddell | abattoir: /var/lib/kdm/kdmsts | 04:06 |
| Riddell | abattoir: is there a script we can just do rm -f /var/lib/kdm/kdmsts in that's run after the oem user has logged out? | 04:06 |
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| abattoir | Riddell: i'll see if i can put it in the script which removes the oem user, i'll speak w/ Kamion about this, thanks :) | 04:07 |
| Tonio_ | re | 04:07 |
| Tonio_ | works now...... | 04:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell, Hobbsee: "When you have a weird issue and don't wanna search for hours, remember M$ and reboot !" | 04:08 |
| Tonio_ | phrase of the day | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: heh. where was that? | 04:08 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: don't know, I just rebooted and now apt works....... | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 04:08 |
| Tonio_ | I assume I had the same problem with pbuilder since it uses apt, because I added riddell's repo to pbuilderrc without any success | 04:09 |
| Tonio_ | okay let's build and fix kicker | 04:09 |
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| zphou | it's too slow to access kubuntu.org here | 04:19 |
| Tonio_ | what to do with bug 46599 | 04:20 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 46599 in kdebase "Moving the System menu breaks the screensaver kcontrol module" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/46599 | 04:20 |
| Tonio_ | I think we should reject. | 04:20 |
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| Tonio_ | not that the bug doesn't exist, but we are not supposed to maintain kcontrol | 04:20 |
| zphou | Tonio_: kcontrol in universe? | 04:22 |
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| Tonio_ | zphou: no, but kcontrol replaced :) | 04:23 |
| zphou | Tonio_: it's alternative, so you can't rejesct it :) | 04:24 |
| Tonio_ | zphou: depends if that impact systemsettings also :) | 04:25 |
| Tonio_ | in any case I think I can't in fact ;) | 04:25 |
| jdong | Tonio_: kdesystemsetttings should have the gtk-qt engine control module | 04:26 |
| jdong | Tonio_: for those using KDE alongside gnome, it's an essential module every time you switch desktops | 04:26 |
| jdong | (and that probably fulfills your 'easier bug from jdong' request too!) | 04:27 |
| zphou | jdong: if we wanna backport a package, shall we work on it, or you? | 04:27 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: it has htk-qt-engine | 04:27 |
| jdong | Tonio_: not when I used it a few days ago.. did that recently change? | 04:27 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: it is there for about a month | 04:28 |
| jdong | zphou: I'd appreciate it if you can test it first in a dapper pbuilder, etc | 04:28 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: under appearance | 04:28 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I am going to start kss in GNOME right now. if it's not there, you owe me a tray of cookies | 04:28 |
| jdong | Tonio_: and my next 5 motu-pokes | 04:28 |
| zphou | jdong: if there has abi changes, need ask for approval? | 04:29 |
| jdong | zphou: bah... what are you trying to backport? | 04:29 |
| jdong | Tonio_: ok, you don't owe me any cookies today :D | 04:29 |
| zphou | jdong: scim-chewing | 04:30 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: ^^ | 04:30 |
| jdong | zphou: oh yeah, I remember this being asked a while back... | 04:30 |
| jdong | zphou: scim-chewing in dapper didn't really work, right? | 04:31 |
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| zphou | jdong: I don't use it either :) | 04:31 |
| jdong | zphou: I remember a scim-chewing request before | 04:31 |
| jdong | and after a while of looking at it, it was eventually decided as rejected | 04:32 |
| jdong | we tend not to like to deal with abi changes all that much :( | 04:32 |
| zphou | but guys have disputed over this times, no guy do anything on it actrually :p | 04:32 |
| zphou | jdong: would u like working on it :) | 04:34 |
| zphou | anyway, dapper is LTS | 04:34 |
| jdong | zphou: scim-chewing and libchewing need backporting, no other reverse deps, right? | 04:34 |
| jdong | zphou: what is wrong with dapper chewing anyway.... please explain that to me first | 04:34 |
| jdong | if it's a serious problem, it should be handled via dapper-updates | 04:34 |
| zphou | jdong: scim-chewing in dapper is buggy (upstream ) | 04:35 |
| jdong | zphou: that's not really specific enough... | 04:35 |
| zphou | jdong: guys can hardly use it for input Traditinal Chinese | 04:35 |
| jdong | ah | 04:35 |
| jdong | zphou: have you poked mdz about it before? | 04:36 |
| jdong | it's better suited for dapper-updates than backports | 04:36 |
| jdong | but we'll take it if mdz rejects it | 04:36 |
| zphou | jdong: this topic seems like a troll in malone :) | 04:36 |
| jdong | :) | 04:36 |
| zphou | jdong: you mean updates can handle the change of abi? | 04:37 |
| jdong | zphou: well, to a degree | 04:37 |
| jdong | I don't see anything else using libchewing than scim-chewing | 04:37 |
| jdong | that seems fine for updates, then | 04:38 |
| freeflying | jdong: ya, only scim-chewing | 04:38 |
| freeflying | oh no, also libchewing3-dev :p | 04:39 |
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| Tonio_ | hehe, novell invites me to paris seminar next month | 04:49 |
| Tonio_ | I wonder how they got my address | 04:50 |
| Lure | Tonio_: you are famous Tonio from Kubuntu ;-) | 04:51 |
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| Hobbsee | Tonio_: what for? | 04:53 |
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: seminar top promote suse new products blabla....... | 04:56 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I probably won't go there | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | heh. it could be fun to go though | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | see what of interest there is in suse products | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | maybe bring some of the good stuff back to kubuntu. *g* | 04:56 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I'm not leaving in paris anymore :) | 04:56 |
| Tonio_ | and the train is a bit expensived | 04:57 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: bah... that doesn't explain for my postal address :) | 04:57 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: ahh. invitation or sponsorship? | 04:57 |
| beligum | Hi all, I wrote a little essay on the concept of future videohelpdesking in the open-source community. If you're interested: http://blog.beligum.org | 04:57 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: for promote suse? :) | 04:58 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: invitation :) | 05:01 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: :) | 05:01 |
| Hobbsee | pity | 05:01 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: hehe | 05:01 |
| Tonio_ | well they pay for the lunch, but not the train | 05:01 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: no just a seminar, nothing else | 05:02 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: kdebase is almost built....... just a few minutes and we'll know what about kicker | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: yay :) | 05:02 |
| === Hobbsee didnt know she relied on the pager so much, until it was severely broken. | ||
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: argh ! | 05:06 |
| Tonio_ | ftbfs again | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | :( | 05:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: dh_install: kdebase-doc missing files (debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdebase*-apidocs/*), aborting | 05:06 |
| Riddell | I've never had that | 05:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, yes, that's very strange.... crappy laptop maybe...... ;) | 05:07 |
| Tonio_ | okay let's restart from the begening...... | 05:07 |
| Tonio_ | :-( | 05:07 |
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| Tonio_ | I'm rebuilding the package, just adding my patch, and we'll see | 05:08 |
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| gnomefreak | Tonio_: sorry about rejecting the bug i didnt hear anything so i rejected it | 05:11 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: no pb :) | 05:11 |
| gnomefreak | btw you may see a bug on kde-meta soon something about depends issues | 05:12 |
| gnomefreak | 3.5.4 | 05:12 |
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| mhb | Hey everyone, they didn't want me at #ubuntu-bugs, so I'm back here | 05:33 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: if you get that fixed, can you email me with a link to the deb, or whatever, so that i can grab the fix? i'm going to sleep.. | 05:34 |
| mhb | I'd *really* appreciate some help with bug 63325 since nobody is noticing it, just me | 05:34 |
| Ubug2 | Malone bug 63325 in kde-systemsettings "systemsettings won't load the desktop_kde-systemsettings.mo translation in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63325 | 05:34 |
| Riddell | mhb: I want to look at that but can't today, already doing kde 3.5.5 and qt 4.2 | 05:36 |
| jdong | kde 3.5.5? | 05:36 |
| jdong | is that out? | 05:36 |
| Riddell | no | 05:36 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: sure, I'll put it on my repo so that you can dist-upgrade | 05:37 |
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I took Riddell's package, and just adding my patch this time. no buildprep, nothing | 05:37 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I hope it'll work | 05:37 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: i dont have yours enabled. i dont have the link, either | 05:37 |
| === Hobbsee nods | ||
| Hobbsee | yeah | 05:37 |
| Hobbsee | i lost part of my logs :( | 05:37 |
| mhb | Riddell: thanks, I'll remind myself in a few days .. it's just that it's hug/bug day today | 05:37 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: http://ubuntu.tonio.homelinux.org | 05:38 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: you even can download binaries there if you don't want to use the repo | 05:38 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: what package will it be? | 05:38 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, that's what i usually do | 05:38 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: kicker ? :) | 05:38 |
| Hobbsee | ah, so just kicker | 05:38 |
| Tonio_ | yes | 05:39 |
| jdong | Tonio_: you're mr. adblock for konq, right? | 05:40 |
| Hobbsee | cool | 05:40 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: hehe, yes :) | 05:41 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: well I implemented the plugin and set the default rules, that's all :) | 05:41 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: have an issue ? | 05:41 |
| jdong | Tonio_: have you considered using easylist.adblockplus.org's lists? | 05:41 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: nope | 05:42 |
| jdong | Tonio_: IMO they are far superior to filterset.G | 05:42 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: ah ? very interesting | 05:42 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: any copyright or licence restriction on them ? | 05:42 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I'll check, I don't know... | 05:42 |
| jdong | it's for adblockplus, an open source project, so I wouldn't expect so | 05:43 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: well filtersetG as a licence, but upstream confirmed me we could use it | 05:43 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I'll contact upstream for you | 05:43 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: not needed probably | 05:43 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: I'll test the list first, and if that's okay, let's go | 05:44 |
| Tonio_ | for me, filtersetG is about the perfection | 05:44 |
| Tonio_ | I couldn't find any website to resist | 05:44 |
| jdong | Tonio_: easylist and easyelements (both on the same site) are great | 05:44 |
| jdong | Tonio_: easyelements will actually collapse the blank space that sometimes is left behind | 05:44 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: what are the differences ? have an example to compare ? | 05:44 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: ah ! that's interesting | 05:45 |
| Tonio_ | okay let's give a try :) | 05:45 |
| jdong | Tonio_: it stops cnet.com's annoying expanding-ads dead in its tracks | 05:46 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: no regular expressions ? that's surprizing | 05:47 |
| jdong | yeah, for such a simple thing, it does wonders | 05:47 |
| jdong | the elements list is a bit more complex | 05:47 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: works pretty nicelly | 05:50 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: I'll test that for a few days, and if that's okay and there is no restrictive licence, I'll commit to kds | 05:51 |
| Tonio_ | thanks for the info | 05:51 |
| jdong | Tonio_: welcome :) | 05:51 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: is the element blocking compatible with konqueror's adblock ? | 05:54 |
| Tonio_ | I'm unsure :) | 05:54 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I believe so | 05:54 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: I'm testing, that pretty easy to test | 05:55 |
| === mhb is ready for testing, if somebody needs that | ||
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| jdong | Tonio_: hmm, perhaps the # command is not understood.... | 05:57 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: yes, it doesn't work....... | 05:59 |
| Tonio_ | so element blocking is not of any use...... at the moment at least | 05:59 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: I'll submit the idea to konqueror's team | 06:00 |
| jdong | Tonio_: awesome | 06:00 |
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| Tonio_ | jdong: concerning the first list, I think filterset.g is better, for one reason | 06:00 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: a static list needs to be updated very often, and we don't have an updater | 06:01 |
| jdong | Tonio_: filterset.g looks more static to me | 06:01 |
| jdong | Tonio_: its regex is very specific to sites | 06:01 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: hum....... not that much in my opinion | 06:02 |
| Tonio_ | there are lots of regexp that are generic | 06:02 |
| Tonio_ | well I'll compare easylist with adblock for a few days, going to porn websites, hacking websites, and we'll se which one is the best | 06:02 |
| jdong | Tonio_: easylist's wildcard matches are pretty effective | 06:02 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: certainly, yes, so taht's why I want to compare. | 06:03 |
| Tonio_ | a konqueror plugin to update the lists would be good too :) | 06:03 |
| jdong | lol, certainly | 06:03 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: if someone feels ready to improve the current adblock plugins that would be nice :) | 06:04 |
| jdong | hehe, my kde programming familiarity doesn't extend that far :) | 06:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kicker's patch works :) | 06:05 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hehe :) | 06:05 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: rocking | 06:05 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: true ;) | 06:05 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: want a debdiff I assume ? | 06:06 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: sure | 06:07 |
| Lure | Tonio_: you mentioned fixed packages for desktop pager | 06:08 |
| Lure | where can I get them? | 06:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/22 | 06:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you can download it from there | 06:09 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: ready for dcc ? | 06:09 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: waiting for you to accept | 06:09 |
| Lure | Tonio_: accepted it, but it is not going anywhere | 06:10 |
| Lure | ok, it started | 06:10 |
| Tonio_ | hum........ | 06:10 |
| Tonio_ | ah | 06:10 |
| Lure | timed out... | 06:10 |
| Tonio_ | hum...... okay let's come back to normal ftp | 06:11 |
| Lure | Download of "kicker_3.5.5-0ubuntu2_i386.deb" from Tonio_ failed. Reason: Connection failure: timed operation timed out. | 06:11 |
| Tm_T | :) | 06:11 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: ah yes, my router sucks :) sorry | 06:12 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: it's upnp support it a pure bullshit | 06:12 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I have OpenWRT and it rocks | 06:12 |
| Tonio_ | lure: http://tonio.homelinux.org/tmp/kicker_3.5.5-0ubuntu2_i386.deb | 06:12 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: need testing? | 06:13 |
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| Tonio_ | Tm_T: yes please ;) | 06:13 |
| Tm_T | aye sir | 06:13 |
| Tonio_ | install, killall kicker and restart | 06:13 |
| Tonio_ | works like a charm here | 06:13 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: nah, "dcop kicker kicker restart" is clean way | 06:13 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: the point is it is very special in france | 06:13 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: I restart kicker "on the fly" almost every day :p | 06:13 |
| Tonio_ | each ISP comes with it's own box, providing telephone, tv and adsl | 06:14 |
| Lure | Tonio_: you ROCK!!!! | 06:14 |
| Tonio_ | and my isp sucks, but I don't wanna change it, since it'll take ages...... | 06:14 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: ;) | 06:14 |
| Lure | Riddell: grab patch from Tonio_! | 06:14 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: bah svn sync + diff... wasn't that complicated | 06:14 |
| Tonio_ | kde maintainers rock, not me :) | 06:15 |
| Riddell | Lure: I'm still looking at kdesu | 06:15 |
| Lure | Tonio_: but you are fast ;-) | 06:15 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: that's true :) I don't have a job at the moment, that explains :) | 06:15 |
| Lure | Riddell: ok, great - I just seen I got new kdepim, will play a bit more with it now... | 06:15 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I am on babysitting my daughter today (she is sick) | 06:15 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: hehe, not too much sick I hope.... | 06:16 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: so, I just check if minipager works? | 06:18 |
| Tm_T | anything else? | 06:18 |
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| Tonio_ | Tm_T: that's it | 06:20 |
| Tm_T | roger | 06:20 |
| Tonio_ | federer ? | 06:20 |
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| Tm_T | just. works. | 06:21 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: fine by me | 06:21 |
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| Tonio_ | Tm_T: great, thanks for confirming | 06:21 |
| Lure | Riddell: just installed gnome to test gpm key behaviour | 06:21 |
| Lure | Riddell: no default action for sleep key, but battery show the gpm's tip | 06:22 |
| Tm_T | I always forger how large arrows default kicker uses | 06:22 |
| Riddell | Lure: so you press sleep and gnome power manager displays the battery status? | 06:22 |
| Lure | Riddell: I am thinking of do hard assigning of Standby -> Suspend and Sleep -> Hibernate and user can then change behaviour by changing xkeysym | 06:22 |
| Lure | Riddell: no, there is battery key on my laptop. Sleep key does nothing | 06:23 |
| Lure | (at least by default) | 06:23 |
| Riddell | right | 06:23 |
| Riddell | Standby -> Suspend and Sleep -> Hibernate sounds sensible | 06:23 |
| Lure | if this does not fit somebody, then they can change /usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap | 06:24 |
| Riddell | yes | 06:25 |
| Lure | Riddell: I will do a patch for ksmserver for all three keys and then try to get some testers before sending you to one of coredev to apply | 06:25 |
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| abattoir | Riddell: Kamion has added the command which removes kdmsts, just fyi | 06:27 |
| Riddell | abattoir: great | 06:27 |
| Lure | Riddell: one guy mentioned regression in regards to laptop keys on asus | 06:27 |
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| Lure | Riddell: do we have package for old asus/dell/thinkpad kmilo modules | 06:28 |
| Riddell | Lure: kmilo-legacy | 06:28 |
| Lure | I doubt we will be able to fix this in time for edgy, so workaround would help | 06:28 |
| Lure | great | 06:28 |
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| jdong|laptop | Tonio_: while we evaluate the new filters, how about at least a filterset.g update to something that's NOT 6 months old? :D | 06:34 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: go knetworkmanager! | 06:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what about ? | 06:53 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: UVF exception approved | 06:55 |
| jdong|laptop | wasn't 0.1 already uploaded? | 06:55 |
| Riddell | oh hah | 06:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes, I already uploaded | 06:56 |
| Riddell | my e-mail server just decided to finally send an e-mail from september 30th | 06:56 |
| Tonio_ | about 5 days ago at least :) | 06:56 |
| mdz | jdong: it took a very long time to get any clarity about scim-chewing in malone; there are several unrelated issues | 06:56 |
| Tonio_ | jdong|laptop: yes that's a pretty nice idea ;) | 06:56 |
| mdz | jdong: current focus is to get everything sorted in edgy and working well, then talk about -updates | 06:57 |
| jdong|laptop | mdz: ok, sounds good. this scim-chewing thing is so confusing :) | 06:57 |
| Riddell | toma: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RosettaAndUpstreamCollaboration | 07:07 |
| toma | Riddell: exciting... reading... | 07:09 |
| mhb | I read that too ... | 07:09 |
| mhb | OT: sometimes I feel it's harder to collaborate between Kubuntu and KDE Czech translations because the person in charge of translating KDE apps is a paid SUSE employee :o) | 07:12 |
| Tm_T | haha | 07:12 |
| toma | Riddell: I'll look into it in depth a bit more later on, looks good though | 07:13 |
| mhb | Tm_T: the ironic thing is that the GNOME translator in charge of CZ l10n is a SUSE employee as well :o) | 07:15 |
| Tm_T | mhb: sounds fun | 07:15 |
| mhb | Tm_T: that's just the start ... would you believe that OK/Apply/Cancel is translated differently in Windows, KDE and GNOME (all 3 different versions) ? | 07:17 |
| Tm_T | I can | 07:18 |
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| mhb | Tm_T: a lot of people (the GNOME/KDE l10n chiefs, for instance) dislike Ubuntu translations because we translate both KDE and GNOME consistently | 07:20 |
| Tm_T | but that supposed to be good thing | 07:21 |
| mhb | Tm_T: well, it makes Ubuntu (Kubuntu) more consistent but the KDE/GNOME guys refuse our translations because they sometimes differ from their "pure" KDE only/GNOME only translations | 07:23 |
| mhb | Tm_T: because we use only one dictionary for both, not one for GNOME and a different one for KDE | 07:24 |
| Tm_T | hmm, I haven't heard same behaviour in finnish translation teams | 07:24 |
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| mhb | Tm_T: a lot of people at leading positions tend to be stubborn (and convinced that "their" translation is the best one) | 07:26 |
| Tm_T | human nature :) | 07:26 |
| mhb | Tm_T: so there's the Windows translations, Firefox translations, KDE translations, GNOME translations ... all different | 07:28 |
| Tm_T | yeah | 07:30 |
| Tm_T | glad Opera fi translator is also somewhat KDE activist | 07:30 |
| freeflying | ,m | 07:31 |
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| mhb | let's get back to devel :o) | 07:32 |
| mhb | Riddell: maybe we can now make the annoucement of the Kubuntu Testers team on the kubuntu-users and kubuntu-devel mailing lists | 07:38 |
| mhb | Riddell: the main wiki page is present | 07:39 |
| Tm_T | mhb: count me in (that's what I do anyway) | 07:39 |
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| mhb | Tm_T: great! | 07:40 |
| Riddell | mhb: url? | 07:42 |
| mhb | Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTesters | 07:42 |
| Riddell | mhb: cool | 07:43 |
| Riddell | mhb: yes, announce on kubuntu-users kubuntu-devel and add it to UWN | 07:44 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue16 | 07:44 |
| mhb | Riddell: thanks | 07:45 |
| mhb | I'll do that | 07:45 |
| andrunko | hi all, do you know if qt4.2 will be on edgy? i am asking this cause if it happens i will have to update the telepathy-qt package. Currently telepathy-qt package is being patched because of an old version of qt-kdecopy on edgy | 07:46 |
| Riddell | andrunko: I don't know but I'm packaging it now and if there's no problems I'll ask for it to be let in | 07:46 |
| andrunko | Riddell: nice, if it gets in please let me know, i will have to update telepathy-qt, actually, just remove some patches in there :) | 07:47 |
| Riddell | of course | 07:47 |
| Hawkwind | In Mandriva you can do cat /etc/release to find out what version of the OS you are running, what's the equivalent in Kubuntu ? | 07:52 |
| abattoir | Hawkwind: lsb_release -a | 07:52 |
| Hawkwind | Thanks | 07:52 |
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| Lure | sebas: ? | 08:02 |
| Lure | sebas: ping | 08:02 |
| jdong|laptop | Hawkwind: lsb_release oh never mind... | 08:02 |
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| sebas | Lure: pong | 08:06 |
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| Lure | I expected that dcop name of powermanager would not use pid since we use KUniqueApplication now | 08:07 |
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| Lure | sebas: other question is if you did commit "SUSPEND_USE_HAL = False" by accident | 08:09 |
| Lure | sebas: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/other/dcop.html says: | 08:11 |
| Lure | KUniqueApplication automatically registers itself to DCOP. If you are using KUniqueApplication you should not attach or register yourself, this is already done. The appId is by definition equal to kapp->name(). You can retrieve the registered DCOP client by calling kapp->dcopClient(). | 08:11 |
| sebas | Lure: Ooops. should be True indeed. | 08:12 |
| sebas | I'll fix it immediately. | 08:12 |
| Lure | sebas: I though so... | 08:12 |
| sebas | Committed. | 08:12 |
| Lure | sebas: I got it - we need to drop RegisterAs now when wi have KUniqueApplication | 08:13 |
| Lure | will do this now | 08:13 |
| sebas | Ok, I can test it then. | 08:14 |
| Lure | sebas: this will probably also fix the dirty hack issue | 08:14 |
| sebas | That would be nice | 08:14 |
| Lure | sebas: it starts properly, prevents multiple instances, but still reports: | 08:17 |
| Lure | power-manager: ERROR: Communication problem with power-manager, it probably crashed. | 08:17 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure, sebas: ping me if you need an uploader once done | 08:50 |
| jdong | Tonio_: you're a core-dev right :) | 08:51 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: as long as it can help.... | 08:51 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: I updated filtersetg in kds | 08:51 |
| jdong | Tonio_: yeah, I saw that. thanks :) | 08:51 |
| Tonio_ | :) | 08:52 |
| jdong | Tonio_: would you like to test for me if core-dev can upload to dapper-backports? | 08:53 |
| Lure | Tonio_: be sure I will ;-) - problem is that dcop does not work in KUniqueApplication as it should :-( | 08:53 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: yeah, I remember that kuniqueapplication issue | 08:53 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: hum, I don't think I can | 08:54 |
| Tonio_ | that requires other rights I think | 08:54 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: imbrandon can so he can answer | 08:54 |
| jdong | imbrandon: poke :) | 08:54 |
| Tonio_ | and btw I'm not supposed to upload to backports :) | 08:55 |
| jdong | Tonio_: pfft.... nonsense :) | 08:55 |
| jdong | Tonio_: if I say you are, then you are :) | 08:55 |
| Lure | Tonio_: every coredev can... | 08:55 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: this is why we have coredev's ;-) | 08:56 |
| jdong | Tonio_: the theory is, core-devs should be able to upload to dapper-backports | 08:56 |
| jdong | whether or not they're on the backports team | 08:56 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: true that, but I'm not supposed to do so :) | 08:57 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: I prefer to let the backport team do its job :) | 08:57 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I don't have the power to do my job :) | 08:57 |
| jdong | Tonio_: hence me scrounging around for a core-dev | 08:57 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: what do you need to backport ? | 08:58 |
| jdong | https://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bug/63275 | 08:58 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 63275 in dapper-backports "readahead-list " [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:58 |
| jdong | faster dapper bootup :) | 08:58 |
| jdong | needs edgy's boot.list to be replaced with stock dapper's | 08:58 |
| jdong | which I've attached to the bug ticket | 08:58 |
| jdong | that's the only modification | 08:59 |
| jdong | add a ~dapper1 to the version, and it's ready to go | 08:59 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: hum, isn't mdz supposed to revu such an upload ? | 09:00 |
| jdong | I was just talking to mdz and the launchpad guys | 09:00 |
| Tonio_ | anything concerning the boot process is somehow sensitive | 09:00 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I've tested it very extensively | 09:00 |
| jdong | it's really not much of a change | 09:01 |
| Tonio_ | if mdz is okay I would do it, of course, but I wouldn't take the responsability of it :) | 09:01 |
| jdong | Tonio_: blame it all on me if something goes wrong :) | 09:01 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: yes, I understand that, but that's a matter of "respecting the process" ;) | 09:01 |
| jdong | Tonio_: one sec, I'll talk to the big guy a bit | 09:01 |
| jdong | (more) | 09:01 |
| Tonio_ | hehe okay | 09:02 |
| jdong | Tonio_: "the man" has approved it :) | 09:07 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: great then | 09:09 |
| jdong | and kamion is around to watch it happen, so this shall be a fun one :) | 09:09 |
| Tonio_ | now the question is "how to upload to backports" :) | 09:09 |
| jdong | beats me.... you're the core-dev :) | 09:09 |
| mdz | Tonio_: 'dapper-backports' in changelog/.changes | 09:09 |
| Tonio_ | mdz: hehe okay :) | 09:10 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: let's go | 09:10 |
| mdz | no idea if it will work | 09:10 |
| mdz | someone needs to talk to LP folks about it | 09:10 |
| jdong | mdz: I asked in #launchpad, but no response | 09:11 |
| Tonio_ | mdz: it has already been tested afaik.... I can't test myself, since all my machines are under edgy | 09:11 |
| jdong | maybe someone with more significance should ask? | 09:11 |
| jdong | Tonio_: he was referring to he has no idea if the upload process will work | 09:11 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: ah okay | 09:11 |
| mdz | Tonio_: I mean the upload, yes | 09:11 |
| jdong | Tonio_: (regarding the package, you did add ~dapper1 to the version number, right?) | 09:11 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: well, imbrandon knows that to do, probably better asking him no ? | 09:12 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: he'll probably come in a moment | 09:12 |
| jdong | Tonio_: he wasn't sure the last time I asked him | 09:12 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I think we're all in the same boat here :) | 09:12 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: hum... | 09:12 |
| Tonio_ | I must say I never looked at how to backport something.... | 09:13 |
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| jdong | Tonio_: replace debian/boot.list, add changelog entry, new version = old version and ~dapper1, then fire away :) | 09:14 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackportsHowto | 09:14 |
| jdong | Tonio_: that's the general backports policy from when TB first approved backports, yes | 09:14 |
| jdong | it's not been updated for a while :) | 09:15 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: true that.... | 09:15 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: okay let's do the package and test :) | 09:15 |
| jdong | sounds like fun :) | 09:15 |
| Lure | sebas: I have sent more findings to PyKDE mailing list | 09:17 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: hum, the point is I need to take the edgy package to backport it | 09:18 |
| jdong | right, edgy sources | 09:18 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: in the backport policy, I'm not supposed to touche at the package content | 09:18 |
| jdong | mdz has already approved changing boot.list | 09:18 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: was that tested ? or just the dapper package with the boot.list ? | 09:19 |
| jdong | yes, that's what I tested | 09:19 |
| Tonio_ | okay, so I will take the dapper package and update the boot.list | 09:19 |
| Tonio_ | sounds cleaner | 09:19 |
| jdong | the attached boot.list is the same one that's in dapper's package :) | 09:19 |
| jdong | whoa | 09:19 |
| jdong | no | 09:19 |
| jdong | edgy package | 09:19 |
| jdong | with dapper boot.list | 09:19 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: okay | 09:19 |
| Tonio_ | sorry but I'm watching the tv at the same time ;) hard to be concerntrated :) | 09:19 |
| jdong | hehe :) | 09:20 |
| Tonio_ | okay so edgy package with your attached boot.list from dapper, that's it ! | 09:20 |
| jdong | yep | 09:20 |
| jdong | while we're cranking away, a slightly OT question, will apport work with Kubuntu? | 09:21 |
| Lure | jdong: afaik not - we use kde crash collector for now | 09:22 |
| jdong | Lure: ok, but that will only catch kde crashes, right? | 09:22 |
| Lure | jdong: Riddell mentioned that we might reconsider for edgy+1 based on ubuntu feedback | 09:22 |
| Lure | jdong: correct | 09:23 |
| jdong | ok, sounds good | 09:23 |
| Lure | jdong: you are not supposed to run non KDE programs under kde ;-) | 09:23 |
| jdong | Lure: CLI apps segfault, too :) | 09:23 |
| jdong | especially if written by me | 09:23 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: I'm looking at the deps.... it seems to be okay indeed | 09:25 |
| jdong | Tonio_: you really don't trust me when I say I tested it, do you ;-) | 09:25 |
| jdong | I break flash once, and nobody will ever take my word when it comes to QA ever again :D | 09:26 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: when I'm doing something I'm not used to, I don't trust ANYONE ! :) | 09:26 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: do you have a dapper chroot ? | 09:27 |
| Tonio_ | I don't here and I'd like to build before upload | 09:27 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I have dapper pbuilders, and dapper vmware boxes | 09:27 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: can I send you the source package for building ? | 09:28 |
| jdong | Tonio_: sure | 09:28 |
| Tonio_ | http://tonio.homelinux.org/tmp/ | 09:29 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: once you confirm it builds, I'll upload :) | 09:29 |
| jdong | k, gonna grab it | 09:30 |
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| jdong | Tonio_: successful build | 09:32 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: let's go | 09:34 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: done | 09:35 |
| jdong | Tonio_: alright; let's see what happens :) | 09:35 |
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| GNUro | hello! | 09:36 |
| Tonio_ | hi GNUro | 09:37 |
| GNUro | Hi Tonio_!=) | 09:37 |
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| mhb | Riddell: I saw you were the only one from Kubuntu to contribute to the table here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Current | 09:47 |
| mhb | Riddell: since more people want to test dailies (and I don't want to edit the devs' pages) our team is going to use the table here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Kubuntu/Current | 09:49 |
| n8k99 | imbrandon: having some trouble with amarok/edgy/powerbook | 09:56 |
| jdong | Tonio_: whoo! looks like that backport worked :D | 09:57 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: great ;) | 09:59 |
| Riddell | mhb: great | 10:12 |
| Riddell | mhb: but the trouble with that page is it gets wiped when we start testing a new build | 10:12 |
| mhb | Riddell: you mean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Current, right? Yes, that's one of the reasons why we're using our own in Testing/Kubuntu/Current | 10:14 |
| mhb | Riddell: better to say - are going to use | 10:14 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: sorry but I don't understanf | 10:15 |
| jdong | I'l do it :) | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | according to mdz, you are responsible for backports, but you don't have upload rights ? | 10:15 |
| mdz | Tonio_: backports aren't usually uploaded at all; they're copied from the development branch | 10:16 |
| Tonio_ | mdz: ah, that's why | 10:16 |
| Riddell | mhb: ah, I see, cool | 10:16 |
| Tonio_ | mdz: I though it was generally simple uploads as usual | 10:16 |
| mhb | Riddell: what do you think? Will you contribute to our table or stick to the main one? | 10:17 |
| mhb | Riddell: or should we sync the two somehow? | 10:17 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: have you managed to fix kdesu with 3.5.5 ? | 10:18 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: so what do you want me to do on the ticket ? | 10:18 |
| Riddell | mhb: if people are just testing dailys as they have time then it should go on a separate page, if we're testing CDs so we know we can make a release that should go on the normal page | 10:18 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I've got it handled from here | 10:18 |
| jdong | Tonio_: it looks good for a backport | 10:18 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes, packages are updated (no change in version numbers) | 10:18 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: I did as you say "also affect upstream: dapper-backports" | 10:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: perfect ;) | 10:19 |
| jdong | Tonio_: yep | 10:19 |
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| Tonio_ | jdong: would be nice if you can do that :) It's a pain rebuilding it each time I install a lamp machine :) | 10:20 |
| mhb | Riddell: we're going to test dailies once a week, I guess ... but I hope the info will be useful for you nevertheless | 10:20 |
| mhb | Riddell: and when you need the "release CD testers" we can help out as well | 10:21 |
| Riddell | mhb: yes, it's always useful to test dailies | 10:21 |
| mhb | everyone: I'm doing a list of the stuff the Kubuntu Testers should check in Edgy (there was an old list, but it needs improvement) ... what do you think should be tested the most? | 10:24 |
| mhb | I know it's hard to say right now, we'll have more time for edgy+1 but we want to help finalize Edgy as well | 10:25 |
| Riddell | mhb: seen https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Testing/Short ? | 10:27 |
| Riddell | and /Long ? | 10:27 |
| Riddell | we need a Long Kubuntu | 10:28 |
| mhb | Riddell: sure, I copied it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Kubuntu/Introduction | 10:28 |
| mhb | Riddell: but I guess there is room for improvement, so I wanted to know what the devs think about it | 10:29 |
| mhb | or what are the most likely problems in Edgy | 10:31 |
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| Riddell | upgrade from dapper is biggest problem | 10:32 |
| allee | mhb: IMHO most likely problems' should be an extra paragraph at the end of short, that is updated as new features appear | 10:33 |
| mhb | I agree, we should test upgrading as well | 10:37 |
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| seaLne | it never seems to work in kubuntu compared to ubuntu | 10:50 |
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| Riddell | seaLne: because we don't have the dist-upgrade tool (yet) | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: interested in an openwengo package in universe ? | 10:58 |
| Hawkwind | Riddell: It's not a rush, but I've sent you an email. I do hope you got it ok | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: uvf exception request can still be done I assume | 10:58 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: openwengo package would be cool | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I will try, but that's a MESS to package | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | a mix of cmake + scons....... | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | okay let's go :-( | 10:59 |
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| Riddell | Hawkwind: when? what subject? | 10:59 |
| Hawkwind | Riddell: About 30 minutes ago maybe, about a potential op | 10:59 |
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| mhb | are there bug reports about Dapper->Edgy upgrade in LP already? | 11:02 |
| Riddell | don't think so | 11:02 |
| mhb | should we make some? | 11:02 |
| Riddell | python-qt/kde is the main culprit, at least of stuff we control | 11:02 |
| Riddell | mhb: can do | 11:03 |
| mhb | Riddell: what package, then? | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: did you knew there was a firefox extention version of wengophone ? that's kickass, really....... ! | 11:04 |
| mhb | Riddell: kubuntu-meta, I guess ... is it ok? | 11:07 |
| Riddell | mhb: good as any | 11:08 |
| mhb | well, good night to you all, I'm too tired to think ... thanks for every single piece of help and info you've given me | 11:08 |
| mhb | you're all doing great work | 11:10 |
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| Hawkwind | Riddell: Did you get the email ? The first one I sent to you got returned for some reason | 11:37 |
| Riddell | Hawkwind: don't think I did | 11:38 |
| Hawkwind | I sent the first to jriddell@ubuntu.com and that got returned | 11:38 |
| Hawkwind | Then I tried a jr@riddell.org or something | 11:38 |
| Riddell | they both go through the same spam filter | 11:39 |
| Riddell | send it to jr @muse.19inch .net and send me the bounce message too if you can | 11:39 |
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| Hawkwind | Riddell: Ok. I've sent the bounce message and resent the original message | 11:42 |
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