Chousukeyou may simply implement it badly.12:12
bobbyyuThere, it's normal12:12
caseyomahAny computer (technology) can emulate any other computer (technology) given enough time.12:13
softmaster is there any way to use subtitles with rmvb in kubuntu please ?12:13
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aterphasmaso... again with the wondering about battery monitor/ACPI12:13
caseyomahsoftmaster: Sorry, I'mve never used rmvb.12:13
Chousukesoftmaster: try with helix player/realplayer12:13
ChousukeReal player for Linux is actually quite good12:14
Trollinatori prefer mplayer.12:14
caseyomahChousuke: Not like the Win32 version that glitches everything but itself?12:14
Trollinatorit's like FAST!12:14
Chousukecaseyomah: not like that at all.12:14
sorush20my printer is pcl how do I get it to work do I have to do anything special?12:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:15
Chousukecaseyomah: it's a nice GTK2 app.12:15
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Chousukecaseyomah: it doesn't have apps and weird gimmicks either.12:15
TrollinatorGTK2 apps are never nice :p12:15
softmasterthis cant be12:15
ChousukeTrollinator: shush12:15
softmasterbecause realplayer doesnt support subtitles12:15
Chousukeoh, well. :/12:15
softmasteranyone knows12:16
Trollinator because realplayer doesnt support subtitles  <--yep. That's because it's GTK based :D12:16
Chousuketry running the rmvb with mplayer and specify the subtitle file manually.12:16
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.12:16
ChousukeTrollinator: Don't lie. :P12:16
caseyomahsoftmaster: I know oKle supports subtitles, but that's just for DVD.12:16
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VanessaEok that was a rather long 30 mins.....12:16
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX12:16
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caseyomahHow would I allow a Win32 Box to open a Remote Desktop to KDE?12:18
teledynmplayer, xine, vlc all support subtitle files12:18
Trollinatoreveryone should switch to Qt. GTK should be re-implemented as a layer upon Qt as far as possible for legacy apps (like GNOME) and all future development should take place on Qt and KDE12:18
TheNamelesswhat is the command, where i can see how much bytes are free, .. on my harddisk?12:18
Trollinatorcaseyomah: Google for Xming12:18
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fdovingTheNameless: 'df'12:18
TrollinatorTheNameless: df -h12:18
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georgebcaseyomah: if you want to remote connect to the kde from windows download a vnc client12:18
ZarephathI need to identify ip addresses assigned inside my local lan...I have 4 computer that are using static ips..I have one that is getting ip assigned via dhcp...what tool would I use to find out the ip assigned via dhcp from a different computer?12:19
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Trollinatorarp -a12:19
TheNamelessTrollinator: thanks,... oh it isn't musch ^^12:19
Chousukearp -a? :P12:20
b3r53rkhello everyone12:20
TheNamelessmuch ...12:20
omicronhi. i use an us keyboard layout on kubuntu edgy with alt-intl. with dapper I was able to enter umlauts with the deadkeys. that does not work any more. can there be a problem with utf-8?12:20
Chousukethat shows something different :P12:20
aterphasmawhat's the url for the kubuntu bug system?12:20
Trollinatorsry :)12:20
teledyntry nmap -sP
fdovingaterphasma: bugs.ubuntu.com12:20
b3r53rkhere goes the n00by question: "is there a smart way to solve dependencies?" >.<12:20
georgebcaseyomah: if you want to remote connect from linux to win32 there are two ways: 1. if XP/2000 enable remote desktop connection or terminal services and on linux you can use krdc; 2. install a vnc server on windows, ant you can connect with a vnc client (ie. krdc)12:21
fdovingb3r53rk: try 'sudo apt-get -f install' from konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole)12:21
VanessaEb3r53rk, normally apt does that for you.  sometimes the -f switch helps though12:21
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ZarephathTrollinator: Ah yes..kewl..and now for teledyn and see what that does...thanks for learning me folks :-)12:21
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b3r53rkthanks fdoving, i'll try it out12:22
b3r53rkalso thanks to VanessaE12:22
Trollinatorummm... Zarephath, did that work??12:22
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georgebcaseyomah: to allow remote desktop connection on windows go to control panel-> system; and there's a tab with remote desktop or smth like that12:24
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Trollinatorwhatever, i must go to sleep...12:25
Trollinatorwhat time is it whereever you live?12:25
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georgebTrollinator: 01:26 am12:26
Zarephathtrollinator: Yep somewhat...however the nmap command showed me everything..thanks12:26
Trollinatoris that UK?12:26
georgebTrollinator: romania; gmt+212:26
Zarephathteledyn: Is is possible to get the mac address remotely of a given ip?12:27
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morficZarephath: ask arp maybe, just run it12:28
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georgebTrollinator: you could do some  "/ctcp georgeb time" on random people :)12:28
b3r53rkVanessaE, that uninstalled about everything, was that supposed to be a joke or did i miss something? ^^12:28
Zarephathmorfic: Kewl just specify the ip eh?12:28
morficZarephath: i am not sure it does what you want, run it w/o options and see12:28
bobbyyuNow, how to do I export the Linux Java path : /home/bobbyyu/Java/jdk1.5.0_07/bin to be global throughout the shell?12:29
omicrondoes anybody has a hit for my umlauts problem mentioned above?12:29
Trollinatorwell, whatever12:29
Trollinatorinit 012:29
georgebZarephath: you can find out the mac if only that computer is in your network (if you don't have to go thru the gateway to get to them :) )12:29
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redtricycleIs there a command line option to trash something?12:29
redtricycleThe mv command to the trash folder doesn't refresh the trash:/12:29
redtricyclefor the gui12:29
morficZarephath: you might not see past the router12:30
luksanred ktrash ;-)12:30
bobbyyuI've done it before, but I forgot. Forgive me12:30
luksanredtricycle: ktrash12:30
redtricycleThank you!12:30
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redtricycleAnd under ktrash --help12:30
redtricycleis Note: to move files to the trash, do not use ktrash, but "kfmclient move 'url' trash:/"12:30
redtricycleso that works great too =)12:30
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fdovingredtricycle: don't use ktrash, it's not ment to be used that way.12:30
cox377I know this is not a related topic @ all but you guys are pretty switched on to this type of thing so here goes12:30
luksanbut i have found that in general file alteration doesn't work on kubuntu12:30
Zarephathgeorgeb,morfic: That is just awesome..thanks for the replies..that is exaclty what I wanted to do...I have a guest in my household that has been asked not to use the internet..and she continues to ignore my request...now I can block the mac address of the wireless card and no more internet access...mwahhahahahah12:31
fdovingredtricycle: 'kfmclient move file trash:/'12:31
georgebZarephath: arp=address resolve protocol (or smth like that); it does the matching between a IP and a MAC in a network; MAC works at a lower level protocol than IP12:31
nauri cant install mozilla firefox in my kubuntu, i go to adept installer - any suite and i found firefox but its in grey. i cannot go to the adept help.12:31
redtricyclethank you, fdo12:31
cox377i have to make suggestion to someone about eliminating audio typing, i';m trying to find a piece of kit, that can record voice straight into digital text without having to use a laptop to convert it12:31
Zarephathgeorgeb: Yep I remember that somewhere in my minimal exposure to tcp/ip...it is unique so that mac address will no longer work when blocked in the router... ;-)12:32
georgebZarephath: hmm.. what kind of access point do you use ?12:32
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unix_infidelcox377: a program or a hardware device?12:33
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t3hwiz0rdare there any programs that can recover formatted data for linux? similar to Get Data Back12:33
georgebZarephath: first you have to find out what ip does that computer has now; ping that ip; then arp -a, and you will see a entry for that ip and the mac; then, if the access point has a MAC address black list or smth you can block it from there12:33
georgebZarephath: the AP is secured with WEP/WAP ?12:34
Zarephathgeorgeb: Well just a inexpensive linksys setup as a gateway...she is getting access from the wireless...I12:34
Zarephathgeorgeb: nope...because xandors open community has something funky with wpa_supplicant..when I enable it on my sons computer..I can't the wireless connection to see the ssid broadcast..12:34
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cox377unix_infidel: a hardware device, like your normal handheld voice recorder, but can convert it straight into text that would then say be uploadable via USB. Currently all i have found records it to audio, usb upload then the PC app converts it but it takes the time of the recording to convert it to text12:35
unix_infidelcox377: never seen one, i'd like to buy one myself.12:35
unix_infidelbut i'd first buy a decent OCR first :)12:36
ZarephathThanks for the help!12:36
georgebZarephath: I don't know if this applies to your access point but you can check it out: http://www.worldwidewardrive.org/linksys/linksys3.html12:36
cox377unix_infidel: no idea why such a thing isn't on the market.. all it's doing surely is using the normal voice reconition software but in a handheld device12:36
unix_infidelcox377: because its too intensive.12:36
unix_infidelcomputers are more suited for it.12:36
rpedroanyone else getting a 'floating point exception' when running amarok under Edgy?12:36
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cox377unix_infidel: true, i suppoes there is quite a lot of processing power require but in this day and age it's not a huge amount to ask for surely12:37
unix_infidelcox377: it surely eis.12:37
unix_infidelwe can barely make PDA's that have the same power of a p3 and have battery life 2x-3x that of a laptop without it costing close to a real laptop.12:38
LastMalldoesn't nuance software have software for handhelds ?12:38
cox377unix_infidel: i mean the it's not a greatissue that theres involvement with the PC, but if you have 6 hours of audio u have to wait 6 hours for it to convert12:38
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unix_infidelcox377: people have clustesr for trhat...they parallelise the content.12:39
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cox377unix_infidel: very true.. i hadn't really thought about the processing side of it12:39
cox377unix_infidel: what exactly do you mean??12:39
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rav3nhey, i've just updated to edgy i haev a problem..whn the system boots up and i log in i can access read/write my fat32 part. but when i exit the session and log in again i can't access them when i double lcik on them i see no files in there12:40
rav3nwhen i try to write12:41
rav3nit says no permission12:41
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rav3nany help?12:42
georgebrav3n: run mount and check if that partition is mounted12:42
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rav3nnot mounted :S12:43
rav3nhow can i mount it12:43
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georgebrav3n: look in /etc/fstab if it's there an entry for it12:43
rav3nyeah there is12:44
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georgebrav3n: then run sudo mount /path/to/folder    it should work12:44
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rpedroanyone else getting a 'floating point exception' when running amarok under Edgy?12:45
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rav3ngeorgeb: still nothing..this problem only occurs when i log off and log in again12:46
rav3nbut if i restarted i will the partitions fine12:46
rav3ngeorgebi will see the partitions fine *12:47
t3hwiz0rdhow can you add or remove users from the sudo list?12:47
rav3ngeorgeb i will see the partitions fine *12:47
Avdit3hwiz0rd-SR2: look at the /etc/sudoers file12:47
georgebrav3n: is that on some kind of removable device ?12:47
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rav3na partition of my HD12:47
flaccid_t3hwiz0rd: the admin group is sudo access by default12:48
georgebrav3n: when you ran mount.. did you get any output ?12:48
jontecI don't have sound in wine. T_T how do I get it?12:48
t3hwiz0rdflaccid_: whats odd is the user in question doesn't have admin as a primary OR secondary group12:48
georgebrav3n: or take a look in /var/log/messages and see if you see any error when you tried to mount it12:49
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t3hwiz0rdflaccid_: but they can still run sudo12:49
rav3ngeorge: it mounted :)12:49
rav3ngeorgeb: but still if i logged off it will happen again12:50
jontecsorry, okay, now I'm identified... I don't have sound in wine. how do I fix it?12:50
rav3nwait i'll try and come back again12:50
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georgebt3hwiz0rd: login as that user and run id and check the groups12:53
rav3ngeorgeb: same thing12:53
rav3ngeorgeb: unmounted...12:53
rav3ngeorgeb: any ideas?12:54
georgebrav3n: check /var/log/messages for any errors12:54
georgebrav3n: or if you see anything about mounting/umounting that partition12:54
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jontecanyone have problems with sound in wine?12:55
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rav3nnuthing at all12:56
rav3neverything seems fine12:56
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thompaare the kubuntu edgy users here now too?12:56
trym|workits relased12:57
trym|worknevermind ;)12:57
trym|workjust acting on routine12:57
thompaok, why does ubuntu gnome have no disk mount utility like kde?12:57
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navaburojontec, everyone has problems with wine, its just the severity.12:58
thompai have a second hard drive, thought i would try ubuntu, now back to KDE12:58
navaburojontec, what program has issues?12:58
jontecit's a flash issue I believe12:59
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jontecit's one of my student cds that I am running12:59
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thompaanyone running real player on 64 version?12:59
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nubI have an external hard drive and a usb key and whenever I plug one in it comes up with the "open it in a new window" option. When I click the open it in a new window it doesn't do anything. Any suggestions?12:59
jontecbut it could also be quicktime because it's required for use12:59
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:01
jontecnavaburo:sorry I didn't finish explaining... the video works fine, but the sounds doesn't work at all01:02
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navaburojontec, I never got several codecs to run in wine, quicktime included01:03
navaburoi am not sure if it even works.01:03
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jontecdang. that sucks.01:03
jontec'guess I'm still windows dependent. T_T01:03
navaburojontec, well, non-free dependant typically iimplies windows dependant unfortunately01:04
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clyrradIs anyone having trouble with X11 fonts?  I am trying to install xfonts-base and i get error message warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory - so I tried to manually create teh directory but still get error - can anyon help?01:04
navaburojontec, i dont know if its an option for you, but you can run a windows virtual machine inside linux. If you only need windows occasionally01:04
navaburocheck out qemu or vmware01:04
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Bubba_Gumpi'm loving being windows free as i've transferred very to kubuntu (my two copper coins :) )01:05
navaburoi use it for office200301:05
thompamy sounds are repeating over and over, help01:05
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thompaits only in kubuntu 6401:05
jontecnot enough memory on this compy to run vmware in linux... and my use of kubuntu is too much to run kubuntu from within windows01:05
clyrradI have a bunch of pcf.gz files in /usr/share/fonts/X11 - but I assume these are teh files I need only compressed - can anyone tell me how to install them?01:06
jontecI've got 1.2Ghz and 384MB memory... not enough to do much of anything on here.01:06
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clyrradcan anybody help me out??01:07
thompai cant mute the sound either it wont stop01:07
Bubba_Gumpclyrrad, have you searched the internet for a few possible answers?01:08
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brobisonclyrrad: Have you checked to see what is in the zip?  i.e. gzip -t pcf.gz01:08
clyrradI have been all over Google for hours01:08
clyrradno luck01:08
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Bubba_GumpI'll be happy to know an outcome <learning linux you see :)01:09
brobisonand where did you get these pcf.gz files....?01:09
thompahow do i turn off the system sounds01:09
brobisonthompa, did you try:  SystemSettings, Sound System, uncheck Enable the sound system ?01:10
clyrraddoes anyone have these fonts intalled?01:11
Bubba_Gumpthompa: i think it may be in notifications01:11
clyrradI only had this problem since installing Edgy01:11
thompabrobison: its repeating constantly01:11
Bubba_Gumpwhich ones are you hoping to turn off?01:11
clyrradon Dapper I never had this issue01:11
brobisonclyrrad, i am running edgy and do not see the pcf.gz files.....01:11
clyrradlook in /usr/share/fonts/X1101:12
brobisoni did01:12
clyrradthis makes no sense then....01:12
clyrradwhy would I have them....01:12
Bubba_Gumpthompa: go to system settings > notifications , then, turn off all sounds01:12
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shadowhywinddoes anyone know how to compile the kernel with uinput support01:13
LastMallclyrrad  update install ?01:13
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clyrradbrobison... where are your fonts?01:13
clyrradLastMall - what do you mean?01:13
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LastMallclyrrad  did you do an update install or a clean install ?01:13
clyrradclean install01:13
brobisonclyrrad - i have directories there01:14
clyrradgo into the directory misc01:14
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clyrradwhat do you see?01:14
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brobisonclyrrad -- ahh... I see them there01:14
brobisonI suspect they are accessible in gzip format by the font server01:14
clyrradbrobison - can you try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base01:14
clyrradi get this error01:15
clyrradSetting up xfonts-base (1.0.0-3ubuntu1) ...01:15
clyrradwarning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory01:15
E[m] essif i have 2 computers ona  network that need updating and one downloaded all the edgy files, can the other read them from it or does it also need to download 800mb?01:15
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brobisonclyrrad - and yet you said misc is a directory?01:15
clyrradeven if you try to create that directory it does not work01:15
clyrradI would imagine misc would be a directory yes01:16
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brobisonbut you dont have that directory?01:16
clyrradcan anyone else on Edgy confirm if they get the same problem trying to install the xfonts-base?01:16
clyrradits not there01:16
clyrradI even tried to create it01:16
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brobisondo you have any directories in that fonts/X11 dir?01:16
clyrradbut I get the same error01:16
Bubba_GumpE[m] less: could you copy the files across to the computer that has yet to get edgy?01:16
clyrradyes i do01:17
clyrrad100dpi  75dpi  encodings  fonts.cache-1  misc  Type1  util01:17
thompasounds ok now, it went nuts and i had to reboot, seems its a 64 bit glitch01:17
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brobisonso, is misc there or not -- looks like it is? --01:17
clyrradyes its tehre in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc01:17
clyrradand inside it has a bunch of .pcf.gz files01:17
brobisonok -- as far as I know that is correct, what is the problem?01:18
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clyrradproblem is I cant install the fonts01:18
E[m] essBubba_Gump: if i knew where tehy were i could, and where on the remote to put them01:18
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brobisonhow do you know they are not there?  Are you saying you cannot use the fonts?01:18
clyrradyes when I try to use vnc it complains the fonts are missing01:18
Bubba_GumpI think you may have to download them again01:19
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thompaok system notifications . found sound there01:19
clyrradbrobison: were you able to run that command?01:19
clyrrador did you get the same error as me?01:20
brobisoni have not tried to re-install yet, still want to see exactly what is going on -- I think the xfonts-base appears to be OK01:20
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brobisonyou could look at /var/lib/dpgk/info/xfonts-base.list and see the list of what is included....01:20
clyrradif they are there the --reinstall shoudl work with out giving an error01:21
brobisonalso, if you do xlsfonts do you not see the fonts you want?  Which specific one (s) is it complaining about?01:21
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clyrradCould not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list!01:21
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clyrradCould not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing from list!01:21
clyrradCould not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/OTF, removing from list!01:21
clyrradand a few others01:21
clyrradbut its the same error01:22
clyrradbut the worst error is this one01:22
clyrradFatal server error:01:22
clyrradcould not open default font 'fixed'01:22
Dr_willisthose are not errors - those are messages. :) the last is an error.01:22
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clyrradyes correct01:22
clyrradbut I feel they are all related01:22
Dr_willisof course i just got here... and seen that message befor in different cases01:22
clyrradI did some google searchign and they said to reinstall the fonts01:22
clyrradbut I cant becase of the error I get with --reinstall01:23
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brobisonThe reinstall gives warnings... not errors.  It is   mentioning some other possible font directories that are not there01:23
Dr_willisstart at the begining..  what is giving you this error.01:23
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clyrradwhen I type vncserver01:23
Dr_willisand let me guess.. you installed tightvnc...01:23
clyrradit writes those messages to the log file01:23
brobisondoes xlsfonts | grep fixed show that fixed is there....01:23
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Dr_willisHmm.. i didenet think x11vnc used the vncserver command.01:24
clyrradim sure this is related to the fonts not being isntalled01:24
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clyrradand  sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base does not work01:24
clyrradSetting up xfonts-base (1.0.0-3ubuntu1) ...01:25
clyrradwarning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory01:25
Dr_willisclyrrad,  some of the 'vncserver' scripts look for xf86conf instead of the xorg.conf file. ive seen this error many a time with various vnc packages..01:25
brobisonwarning != error01:25
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clyrradok - but it stops there01:25
Dr_willis    /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc01:25
klondikeclyrrad: why don't you make that dir?01:25
clyrradI have made it01:25
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clyrradit makes no difference01:26
Dr_willisis where the fonts are at under ubntu.. the vncserver script normally  gets the fonts paths from the xorg config file..  IT may be looking for the wrong x11 config file.01:26
clyrradbut i dont have the /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc01:27
klondikeclyrrad and does it containa ny kind of font?01:27
clyrrador any fonts there01:27
clyrrad.. /usr/share/X11/fonts/ is empty - not folders or fonts in tthere01:27
klondikeand /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc01:28
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clyrradnope nothing there01:28
clyrradits empty too01:28
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Dr_willisx11vnc is not started by 'vncserver'01:28
klondikeit's really strange01:29
malickhow we use rpm01:29
klondikeyou may have any fonts there01:29
Dr_willisls /usr/share/X11/fonts/01:29
Dr_willis100dpi  75dpi  encodings  fonts.cache-1  misc  Type101:29
klondikemalick:  just use alien01:29
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clyrradI dont seem to have any fonts there that is what is so strange01:29
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clyrradls /usr/share/X11/fonts01:30
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Dr_willisOk.. my edgy machine and dapper machine seem to differ...01:30
clyrradcd misc01:30
clyrradbash: cd: misc: No such file or directory01:30
clyrradso misc is there but you cant get into it01:30
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clyrradIf I go as root I can get in there - but the misc folder is empty there are not fonts in there01:31
Dr_willisedgy -----> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/01:31
clyrraddo you have fonts in that folder on your system?01:31
Dr_willisdapper ---> ls /usr/share/X11/fonts/01:31
clyrradDr_willis - yes in  /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ I have files01:32
clyrradbunch of pcf.gz files01:32
Dr_willisclyrrad,  thats where the vncserver script should be looking then. I am guessing the script is defaulting to the otehr dirs by mistake01:32
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Dr_willisclyrrad,  so you are on edgy? or dapper?01:32
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clyrradwas on dapper before - now im on a clean install of Edgy01:32
malickI want to know how we use it01:33
Dr_willisclyrrad,  and you installed vnc4server?01:33
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Dr_willisok.. installing that now.. to recreate the issue.01:33
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clyrradok thanks :)01:33
Dr_willisI cant belive these vncservers are STILL having this issue.01:33
Dr_willisIve trouble shot this a dozen times. :)01:34
clyrradworked great on Dapper01:34
Dr_willisdo a ...01:34
Dr_willisls -l /etc/alternatives/vncserver01:34
Dr_willislrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2006-10-29 19:34 /etc/alternatives/vncserver -> /usr/bin/vnc4server01:34
clyrradlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2006-10-28 23:38 /etc/alternatives/vncserver -> /usr/bin/vnc4server01:35
Dr_willisclyrrad,  ive had issued with all the differnt vnc servers under dapper/edgy. :) vnc4 used to work fine.. tightvnc had the font issue.. heh01:35
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clyrradlooks good01:35
clyrradhow do you start your x11vnc?01:36
Dr_williscould not open default font 'fixed'01:36
Dr_willisxsetroot:  unable to open display 'audigy:1'01:36
Dr_willisok same error.. NOW lets look at the vncserver script.. :)01:36
clyrradyea i been getting those too01:36
Dr_willisthis is the same OLD error ive trouble shot a dozen times. :)01:36
clyrradwhat did you type to get that error?01:36
Dr_willislooked at the vncserver logs. :)01:38
Dr_willisnow looking at the vncserver script.01:38
clyrradwhat are you using to try and start your x11vnc server?01:38
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Dr_willisI dont mess with x11vnc thats not started by vncserver :)01:39
Dr_willisx11vnc is a different beast from what i am reading on its docs.01:39
clyrradits what I used on Dapper01:40
Dr_willisI use vnc all the time  - ive never had to use x11vnc, it depends on what/how you are connecting/doing with the vncserver stuff.01:40
clyrradWell I used tightvnc before too but its WAY too slow01:40
clyrradso swithced and it worked on Dapper great01:41
CyronOk, who's willing to help a newb sort out his refresh rates in Kubuntu?01:41
clyrradI used Xvnc too and was able to start sessions using :1 instead of :0 dispaly01:41
clyrradso it was great01:41
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flaccidwhats the problem01:41
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knock12hello :)01:42
knock12I have a big question. I have changed the standard kubuntu kde theme by selecting another. How can I restore the standard kde theme? :(01:42
CyronWell basically, I've installed the nvidia beta drivers, and in gnome, I get my nice high resolutions and high refresh rates.   KDE loads in my high resolution (1280x1024) but it only does it at 65Hz or something01:42
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Cyron85Hz isn't even in my resolution options01:43
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CyronThough if I change it to 50Hz, it actually goes to 85Hz01:43
CyronBut I have to do that manually each time I load KDE01:43
flaccidi start my x11vnc in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup with /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -shared -rfbauth /root/.vncpasswd -rfbport 5900 -bg -o /var/log/x11vnc01:43
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clyrradDr_willis: it was actually the XDMCP that allowed me to start the remote sessions using :1 0 but that no longer works01:43
clyrradflaccid - yep I had that on Dapper too01:44
clyrradso it autostarted01:44
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Dr_willisfrom what i am gathering the vncserver script/configs are not parsing the correct info for the font paths.01:45
flaccidclyrrad: so your problem is XDMCP/remote X and not vnc at all?01:45
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clyrradwell remote access to teh desktop over VNC is what I am trying to get working01:46
paul00257can someone help me get wine installed i can see it in adept installer but it is grayed out and i cant install it01:46
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knock12no one knowing how to restore the default kubuntu kde theme? :/01:46
flaccidclyrrad: isn't that what vnc gives you?01:46
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clyrradI have VNC on my laptop (windoze) and x11vnc on the kubuntu desktop im trying to connect to01:46
flaccidknock12: there is no default theme, but various styles are selected01:46
clyrradno vnc wont even connect01:46
Dr_willisyou could edit the vnc.conf file to set them manually, they are  set by default to read the XF86Config not the xorg.conf which is odd.01:46
flaccidclyrrad: what is the error?01:47
clyrradcant connect01:47
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flaccidit should give an error code, clyrrad01:47
clyrradits becase the x11vnc server does not seem to be running01:47
clyrradno error corde01:47
flaccidhow about 100061 or something?01:47
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clyrradjust said "Failed to conenct to server"01:48
clyrradno error code01:48
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flaccidis x11vnc running and is firewall allowing?01:48
clyrraddoes kubuntu have a firewall by default?01:48
flaccidcan't remember. iirc it doesn't01:48
clyrradi dont see the x11vnc service running01:49
clyrradps aux |grep vnc01:49
flaccidx11vnc is not a service unless you made it into a service01:49
clyrradnothing shows01:49
flaccidok, then you might want to run it first, clyrrad :)01:49
clyrradyea I have done all this :p01:49
Dr_willisclyrrad,  try a ..........         sudo ln -s /usr/share/fonts/X11/ /usr/share/X11/fonts01:49
Dr_willisthat just worked for me. vncserver script now works..01:50
flaccidclyrrad: then when you run x11vnc from command line, you have problem?01:50
clyrradDr_willlis I just added that01:50
Dr_willisi now have vncserver (the vnc4server variant) working.. now to check on x11vnc :)01:51
clyrradit still does not work for me01:51
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clyrradflaccid: checking01:51
flaccidDr_willis: what package is that vncserver from?01:51
clyrradits showing 1 2 3 4...01:51
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clyrradand the x11vnc is still not running01:52
clyrradi checked with ps aux |grep vnc01:52
flacciddid it exit after that?01:52
clyrradyes im back to cml now01:52
Dr_willisx11vnc seems really screwed.. i set a password for it as it asks.. it still aint seeing it.. its also ignoreing the command line arguments01:52
flaccidwhy does it exit... there is your problem01:52
flaccidDr, i use -rfbauth /root/.vncpasswd to specify the password file01:53
clyrradit does not seem to exit with an error01:53
flaccidi aint had a problem with x11vnc to be honest01:53
clyrradare you on Edgy?01:53
flaccidyep im on edgy01:53
clyrradthis is drivng me nuts LOL01:54
clyrradso you can start a remote x session on :1 ??01:54
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clyrrad*** x11vnc was unable to open the X DISPLAY: ":0", it cannot continue.01:55
clyrrad*** There may be "Xlib:" error messages above with details about the failure.01:55
flaccidso you do have an errror...01:55
flaccidwhat command are you using01:55
Dr_willisheh i got x11vnc -display 0    to work..01:55
clyrradit appears so01:55
flaccidi just use it on display 0 with: /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -shared -rfbauth /root/.vncpasswd -rfbport 5900 -bg -o /var/log/x11vnc01:55
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clyrradflaccid - I cant get it to start at all01:56
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flaccidhave you googled the errors and worked on that01:56
clyrradI have been on google for about 6 hours today trying to trouble shoot this01:57
clyrradi came here as a last resort01:57
flaccidwell if its any consolation. the x display errors about not being able to connect to the x server appear to be common in edgy01:57
Dr_willisclyrrad,  it seems to be workign for me now that i made that link..   i shared the desktop..  i was on. and connected to it with a vncclient program.01:58
flaccidclyrrad: patebin the whole output of x11vnc01:58
clyrradthat is becase you are logged into the desktop01:58
clyrradlog out and try and start a remote desktop01:58
E[m] esshi, when doing "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal" as per teh guide, i got an error that it couldnt be done due to unmet dependencies, which followed onto saying that xorg wont be installed because it is missing packages01:58
clyrradflaccid okay01:58
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Dr_willisYes.. x11vnc shares the currently running desktop - from what i am reading in the man pages/docs.01:58
flaccidE[m] ess: that is a bug01:59
E[m] essflaccid: is there a way to fix it? i need xorg 7.101:59
flaccidE[m] ess: google will find it01:59
Raven301! extracodec01:59
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flaccidE[m] ess: i honestly can't remember how i got round it, but my situation was a little bit different to everyone else02:00
clyrradok here it is: http://pastebin.ca/22835902:00
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E[m] essok, konqueror isnt working either, im getting02:01
E[m] essCould not start process Unable to create io-slave:02:01
E[m] ess klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.02:01
clyrradDr_willis - I want it to start a new desktop02:01
E[m] esssorry for the flood there02:01
clyrradon :1 like how it did on Dapper02:01
Dr_willisclyrrad,  from what i am reading in the x11vnc docs.. it dont do that..02:01
clyrradit does02:01
clyrradwith some help02:01
clyrradwith XDMCP02:01
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RawSewageLTwhat app would I use to scan folders for duplicate files02:02
Dr_willisclyrrad, if you say so.. ive only had the normal vnc4server set up where it would auto-spawn me a new kdm session whenever i vnced into a box.02:02
clyrradthe problem with that is....02:02
Dr_willisi dident want people looking at what i was doing.. so i liked the virtual sessions way of doing it.02:02
clyrradlets say your in a remote session - and you need to reboot the PC02:02
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flaccidclyrrad: if you want to do that, use vncserver (Xvnc). x11vnc is really for display 002:03
clyrradyou cant reconnect with out manually being infront of the PC to login and start the session02:03
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Dr_willisclyrrad,  actually you just ssh in, and run vncserver.02:03
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navaburo?When in insert the kubuntu cd and reboot, it hangs at the loading screen02:03
navaburoWhat do i dod?02:03
Dr_willisclyrrad,  Or like i did have inetd or xinetd auto start the vncserver as needed.02:03
clyrradflaccid: i used this sudo apt-get install vnc4server xinetd02:03
flaccidX11vnc is a vnc server and xserver in 102:03
flaccidi mean xvnc is a vnc server and xserver in 102:04
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Dr_willisflaccid,  im getting a headache :)02:04
clyrradjust not sure why the VNC server is not starting02:04
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navaburoAnyone know the key to press to make the detailed startup information appear when kubuntu install cd boots?02:05
navaburoMine hangs so i want to know what is freezing it02:05
Dr_willisvnc4server is not the same as x11vnc   , correct flaccid ? the 2 are similer tools but unrelated?02:05
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flaccidthe easiest way to get this going is install xtightvncviewer. run the command vncserver and then you are done02:06
flaccidDr_willis: correct02:06
flaccidi belive in this case vnc4server and tightvncserver are pretty similar02:06
clyrradflaccid: will that allow me to start remote x sessions?02:06
catminceHi there, i was wondering if someone can help me? I'm trying to install Firefox but I have NO idea what to do (I only just installed Kubuntu and haven't used ANY form of Linux Before)02:06
kkathmanwhich repo package is firefox2 ??02:06
flaccidclyrrad: vnc != remote X02:06
Dr_willisflaccid,  heh -- ive found tightvncserver had issues with the font paths.. or course so does vnc4server now. :)02:06
kkathmanis it just firefox ??02:06
clyrradflaccid: yea but its what I am trying to accomplish02:07
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flaccidremote x is remote x, vnc is vnc they are tottally differnt02:07
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clyrradkkathman sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox02:07
flaccidclyrrad: what you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with vnc. but i have a feeling you want xvnc on display 1...02:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:07
clyrradflaccid the remote x part is the problem02:07
kkathmanclyrrad:  but that says its a "transistion"02:08
flaccidclyrrad: no the problem is that remote X != vnc!!!!02:08
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flaccidfor example i type vnserver and i get New 'X' desktop is lister:102:08
kkathmanmozilla-firefox - Transition package for firefox rename02:08
clyrradok before I had the service runnign in the backgroud and I connected with VNC on my windoze machine02:08
clyrradand was able to start a new kde session on display :102:09
flaccidclyrrad: ok, do not use remote X in anything you say. because you are talking vnc...02:09
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Cyroncatmince:  sudo aptitude install firefox will do it02:10
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clyrradok - so what can I do to fix this - I just want to do how i had on Dapper02:10
ErikTheRedanyone here familiar with nvidia tv-out?02:10
Dr_willisErikTheRed,  ive fought with it befor. :)02:10
Dr_willisErikTheRed,  used the twinview stuff and cloned my desktop to it.02:10
flaccidsudo apt-get install tightvncserver and then run vncserver02:11
clyrradok so it stais desktop is :102:11
Dr_willisErikTheRed,  then i learned to lookat/use -->  nvidia-xconfig  -A02:11
clyrradso that ran02:11
clyrradnow how do I connect to it from windoze?02:11
Dr_willisvncviweer ip:102:11
flaccidclyrrad: ipaddress:1'02:12
clyrradyea thats not working02:12
clyrradthat has been my problem all along02:12
flaccidtry ipaddress:590102:12
flaccidthe question is why, clyrrad02:12
flaccidits not the problem all along coz x11vnc wasn't going for you etc...02:12
catminceCyron: Okay, I tried that it says "No Packages will be updated, installed or removed"02:12
Dr_willisflaccid,  earlier i noticed the vnc4server was not getting the font path correctly..  I fixed it with that ln command i gave way earlier.02:12
clyrradsais failed to connect to server02:12
Dr_willisi used a -->  sudo ln -s /usr/share/fonts/X11/ /usr/share/X11/fonts02:12
clyrradI am not able to connect to :102:13
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flaccidDr_willis: that is common with vnc4server and tightvnc02:13
flaccidclyrrad: we know that already02:13
clyrradare you able to?02:13
clyrradfrom a windoze machine?02:14
flaccidpastebin the output of sudo netstat -tap | grep -i vnc02:14
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clyrradno output02:14
flaccidyes i can from windows02:14
flaccidits not listening02:14
flaccidhow about ps aux | grep vnc02:15
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yokobrhow do i mount my iso file??02:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about loop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:15
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows02:15
flaccidclyrrad: they are not staying in memory obviously. i have no idea how to troubleshoot it02:15
Dr_willisyokobr,  good enogh for ya? :)02:15
Dr_willisflaccid,  the vncserver has logs. :)02:16
clyrradflaccid - ok thanks anyway02:16
E[m] ess!xorg02:16
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:16
clyrradDr_willis which log file are you looking at?02:16
flaccidyou can always check logs yes02:16
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flaccidusually go into ~/.vnc/02:16
Dr_willisbe sure to remove the old logs befor reruning vncserver again02:16
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clyrradok let me see what it shows02:17
clyrradFatal server error:02:17
clyrradcould not open default font 'fixed'02:17
clyrradxrdb: Connection refused02:17
clyrradxrdb: Can't open display 'pcnatalia:1'02:17
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clyrradbrings me back to the font error02:18
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Dr_willisso we are back to kicking the vncserver in the head and making it use the right font paths. :)02:20
clyrradyep looks that way02:20
clyrradthis is what been driving me nuts all day02:20
Dr_willisor setting links so it is using the  correct font paths.02:20
Dr_willisyou did use that 'ln' command i gave earlier?02:20
Dr_willis>  sudo ln -s /usr/share/fonts/X11/ /usr/share/X11/fonts02:21
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clyrradi ran that before02:21
clyrradthat link already exists02:22
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BluesKajCan anyone tell me why my CPU runs at half speed in Edgy ?02:22
unix_infidelit quantitatively measeures at half speed?02:23
E[m] essstill getting this error when i try to update my kubuntu-desktop for edgy: kubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed02:23
E[m] essE: Broken packages02:23
flaccidclyrrad: Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path. Please set correct fontPath in the vncserver script.02:23
Ash-FoxWhat port did cups listen on again for http connections?02:24
flaccidE[m] ess: did you google yet.02:24
flaccidash 63102:24
clyrradflaccid: sorry what did you mean?02:24
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Ash-Foxflaccid, thanks =)02:24
E[m] essi did, and only found that packages are conflicting02:24
Dr_willis    ls -l /usr/share/X11   shows -->           lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    21 2006-10-29 19:49 fonts -> /usr/share/fonts/X11/02:24
E[m] essi had to use a new browser because konqueror is broken formt eh upgrade02:24
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Dr_willisAsh-Fox,  that may be disabled - where you can see the stuff.. but not do a lot with it.02:24
Ash-FoxDr_willis, seems to be working fine02:25
clyrradI just rand this command: sudo fc-cache -fv02:25
clyrradand updated a bunch of stuff02:25
clyrradgot rid of some errors02:25
clyrradI have only 1 error left now02:25
clyrradFatal server error:02:25
clyrradcould not open default font 'fixed'02:25
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BluesKajunix_infidel, k-info center list my cpu at 1000mhz ...when it should be 2000 mhz02:26
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oebthe story:02:26
oebinstall Kubuntu 6.06 lts02:26
oeblucent modem works02:26
oebpush in ethernet card02:26
oebfire up laptop at LILAX linux lug02:26
oeb use apt-get to update02:26
oeb and install programs ie mozilla-firefox, xchat, etc.02:26
Dr_willisAsh-Fox,  see if the changes actually take effect.. it used to be sort of disabled. I hope it got put back to normal.02:27
oeball install and work correctly02:27
oebtry to use modem at home no connection, no modem no modules02:27
oeblucent modem again works02:27
oeb shutdown02:27
oebpush in wifi card02:27
oebfire up at library02:27
oebwifi card works02:27
oeb use adept to update02:27
oeb and install ie mozilla-firefox, xchat, etc.02:27
oeb all install and work correctly02:27
Jucato!enter | oeb02:27
ubotuoeb: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.02:27
oeb try to use modem at home no connection, no modem no modules02:27
oebafter sudo modprobe lt_serial or lt_modem02:27
oebget module lt_modem or lt_serial not found02:27
oeblt_modem and lt_serial are in02:27
oebuname shows
oebcan anybody help with this problem?02:27
clyrradnice Flood02:27
flaccidoeb: please leave the channel02:27
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unix_infidelBluesKaj: that's the powernowd daemon.02:28
BluesKajhey oeb, ever heard of pastebin?02:28
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flaccidE[m] ess: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=ubuntu+edgy+upgrade+dependencies+xorg&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-802:28
BluesKajunix_infidel, what does that mean ?02:28
E[m] essflaccid: aparently its caused by the beerorkid repo, thanks for making me repeatedly google till i found that, got a workaround now :)02:28
clyrradoeb: flooding not a good way to get help02:28
flaccidE[m] ess: yes much on google. people with different situations etc.02:28
seishinbyouGah, widescreen resolutions seemed like such a nice idea at the time.  I wish it could display the more standard res's's02:29
unix_infidelBluesKaj: it means taht when you dont need your CPU to be at 2ghz it wont be, as it'll save battery and lower heat.02:29
unix_infidelwhen you need it to be faster, your computer will recognize that and make itself faster.02:29
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Dr_willis'faster, stronger, better then it was befor....'02:29
BluesKajcool, thx unix_infidel ...good to know :)02:29
oebsorry im quite new at this how do I enter in xchat without the enter key02:30
clyrradDr_willis: did you find that 'fixed" font on your system?02:30
Ash-FoxDr_willis, the only problem with it, is that it requires you set a root password to add a printer (asks for a login at the end, whereby only root is accepted)02:30
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Dr_willisclyrrad,  yes.. its in that one dir i had the link going to02:30
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Dr_willis i used  'locate fixed | grep font' to find it02:31
clyrradI dont have it02:31
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clyrradcan you check02:31
clyrradis it a symlink or a file?02:31
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E[m] essgetting errors with acpid and acpid-support still02:33
mz_masterzaxxonquestion: would it be stupid of me to install xinetd on my dapper system just to start swat or is there a better, more "ubuntu" way?02:33
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clyrradDr_willis you still here?02:34
Dr_willis  /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc02:35
felixjetoff topic, anyone know barry white commertial songs? im looking for one that everybody listened but dunno the name02:35
Dr_willisis whgere the fonts are at.. they are defined in the fonts.alias file02:35
clyrradis that a file or a link?02:35
Dr_willisthere is no 'fixed' font file persay - it seems..02:35
clyrradcould not open default font 'fixed'02:36
Dr_willisfixed        -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-102:36
Dr_willisthe fixed font is defined in a fonts.alias02:36
clyrradok where did you see that?02:36
Dr_willisvi /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/fonts.alias02:36
clyrradyea i have that line too02:37
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oebcan anyone help with the LT_Modem on the laptop , I didn't realize cutting and pasting would cause that mess02:37
clyrradwow this is really frustrating :p02:37
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E[m] esshttp://rafb.net/paste/results/Pc49hJ50.html <--here, no idea whats wrong02:39
E[m] essanyone got a clue?02:39
Dr_willisclyrrad,  i would double check the paths.. then if all else fails.. create a new 'vncserver' script (copy the old one) and manually set the right font paths.. OR edit the /etc/vnc.conf  and put them in there manually02:40
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Dr_willisclyrrad,  i also copied the xorg.conf to /etc/X11/XF86Config02:40
clyrradyea im checking the paths I dont know what to look for: I found this http://www.mail-archive.com/xfree86@xfree86.org/msg20842.html02:40
flaccidE[m] ess: dont' know. personally i'd, remove acpi and then put it back after upgrade.02:40
E[m] esswhat does it actually do?02:41
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Dr_willis the right paths are  /usr/share/fonts/X11/*02:42
clyrradyea i have that in my xorg.conf02:42
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Dr_willisclyrrad,  from what i am reading the vncserver script wrongly looks for the font paths in  /etc/X11/XF86Config  not /etc/X11/xorg.conf  so you may want to either copy that file over to the old name.. or edit the vncserver script to look in the right place.02:44
ShivsHi room, i need help installing nvidia drivers in kubuntu02:44
Hawkwind!nvidia | Shivs02:44
ubotuShivs: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:44
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clyrradso did you just create that directory?02:44
clyrrad.. /etc/X11/XF86Config02:44
clyrrador idd you just copy xorg.conf and name it as XF86Config?02:45
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Dr_willisi copied xorg.conf to XF86Config, and made that link02:46
seishinbyouQuestion : How do you set the actual desktop size larger than what you can display (read: scrollable)?02:46
Dr_willisjust the copy did not seem to work..02:46
Dr_willisso i then made the link and it worked.02:46
clyrradwhich link?02:46
ShivsThe nvidia installer says dat i need a compiler or sumting 2 dat effect02:46
clyrradthe one we alrady made?02:46
Dr_willisclyrrad,  that font link that i posted 10 times now. :P02:46
clyrradto the fonts folders?02:46
Dr_willistripple check it. heh02:46
Dr_willisbe sure ya dident get it backwards02:46
clyrradjust checking :)02:46
Dr_willisi ALWAYS get them backwards02:46
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Dr_willisand dont ask me why the fonts dirs keep getting moved around. :)02:47
Dr_willisls -l /usr/share/X11       ---------- shows me ----->          lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    21 2006-10-29 19:49 fonts -> /usr/share/fonts/X11/02:48
Dr_willisshowing that fonts dir is a link to  /usr/share/fonts/X11/02:48
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Dr_williswhich seems odd. now that i look at it.,02:48
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clyrradyea to me too02:49
Dr_willis/usr/share/X11/fonts is a link to  /usr/share/fonts/X11/02:49
Dr_willisbut its working.. lol..02:49
Dr_willisi got a headache now02:49
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ShivsMaybe the font folder is different in sum distro's02:50
clyrradfor me /usr/share/X11/fonts is a folder02:50
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clyrradhow about for you?02:50
clyrradthen inside there i have a link like this X11 -> /usr/share/fonts/X11/02:50
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Dr_willis/usr/share/fonts/X11     - is a link to itself...02:51
Dr_williswtf is that all about02:51
Dr_williscd /usr/share/fonts/X11/X11/X11/X11$02:51
Dr_williscd /usr/share/fonts/X11/X11/X11/X1102:51
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T3hWiz0rdanyone know why my system now freezes on kde boot?02:51
T3hWiz0rdits stuc kon instalizing services02:51
clyrradthis on your system you mean?02:51
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T3hWiz0rdit will not bouhg02:52
ShivsLinux needs 2 iron out alot of those stuff so end users dnt have much configuration 2 do02:52
Erich-KIs there a guide to show me how to change the grub splash image?02:52
Dr_willisShivs,  linux isent really involoved in it.. its a X11 thing. :P02:52
Dr_willisit may be the 'fsb' has decided where they should be.. and thats where they are now going to.02:53
Dr_williserr LSB i mean02:53
Dr_willisnot sure.. but dapper and edgy do have fonts in differnt places.02:53
clyrradso im not sure how to get this owrking02:53
ShivsI mean the os as a whole.02:53
clyrradI have done what you did02:53
clyrradstill not working02:53
flaccidclyrrad: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-267980.html02:54
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flaccidlike i said before set the font path in vnc.conf :)02:54
ShivsHow do i install offline content on kubuntu?02:55
clyrradflaccid: i dont have a vnc.conf file02:55
flaccidyou don't have /etc/vnc.conf?02:55
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Erich-KHow do I change the grub splash image?02:56
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ShivsCan grub do dat? I thawt lilo used images.02:56
flaccidyes grub can do that02:57
clyrradflaccid: correct I dont have that02:57
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ShivsWow-u learn stuff everyday wit linux02:57
flaccidi forget the command to see what package vnc.conf came from02:57
flaccidclyrrad: do you have vnc-common installed?02:58
clyrradi do now :)02:58
seishinbyouJust checking, but "tune2fs -c 0 (hard disk)" will turn off the check, right?02:59
clyrradthere we go now i have it /etc/vnc.conf02:59
flaccidi'm not sure if they are related02:59
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Dr_willis   /usr/share/X11/fonts   vs   /usr/share/fonts02:59
ShivsIs it true dat kubuntu cant play dvds/mp3 or use java appz?03:00
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postangcslvShivs: not at all03:00
Dr_willisShivs,  i use java and play dvd and play mp3's03:01
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ShivsThen y wudnt it work 4 me?03:01
Dr_willisShivs,  i would guess you dudent install the extra packages needed03:01
gauravi did a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, now i get a error message 'Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation.', what could be the problem?03:01
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository03:01
Dr_willisfor a start.03:01
flaccidShivs: not installed by default as they are not free03:01
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:01
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:02
postangcslvShivs: look at automatix2 for dvd and video codec stuff03:02
ZoohouseWhy does ubuntu force check my hard drive every 30th mount??03:02
Dr_willisalso check the Kubuntu homepage and its FAQ.03:02
Dr_willisZoohouse,  to verify its ok.03:02
Dr_willisZoohouse,  thats changeable  with the tune2fs command03:02
ZoohouseDr_willis: thanks :)03:03
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Dr_williswhen you have month+ of uptimes... 30 mounts can be a LONG time.03:03
clyrradflaccid: ok paths set still no change something else must be missing....03:03
ShivsOh i have 2 install extra stuff. Nt cool. -i dnt have a net connection. Can i use rpm's 2 install this stuff?03:03
ZoohouseYea but I turn off my pc every night and when I go to work03:04
Dr_williskubuntu dosent use rpms.. it uses apt-get03:04
postangcslvShivs: use dpkg03:04
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ShivsDpkg? Wats dat? Im a newbie mind me.03:05
postangcslvdpkg is the debian equivalent of rpm - type "man dpkg"03:05
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inteliwaspi installed edgy but i am having quite a few problems namely to start with, wireless access... how can i manually install a deb file?03:06
LjL!automatix | postangcslv, Shivs03:06
ubotupostangcslv, Shivs: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.03:06
ShivsI thawt dat was *.Deb files03:06
JucatoLjL: looks like the factoid has been changed :)03:06
LjLJucato: oh really? i didn't notice03:06
JucatoShivs: rpm is both the package and the command to install the package. .deb is the package, dpkg is the command to install it03:07
bobbyyuWhat's a good source to get vlc?03:07
bobbyyuIJ'm using Dapper, by the way03:07
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Hawkwind!info vlc dapper03:07
ubotuvlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB03:07
Hawkwindbobbyyu: It's in universe03:07
JucatoLjL: the original factoid had links to the Automatix channel and home page.03:08
oebcan anyone help for an lt_modem failing after an update?03:08
bobbyyuThere are many universe sources out there03:08
clyrradflaccid: are you still here?03:08
bobbyyuCan you give me an example?03:08
Hawkwindbobbyyu: No, there is one03:08
JucatoLjL: I guess after some upgrading problems caused by Automatix and EasyUbuntu, some devs decided to change the factoid. *shrugs*03:08
HawkwindUniverse is universe is universe03:09
bobbyyuWhat's the URL?03:09
Hawkwind!universe | bobbyyu03:09
ubotubobbyyu: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:09
Jucatobobbyyu: the primary universe repo (not -updates, not -security, not -backports03:09
flaccidyes i am03:09
bobbyyuDo you mean http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ?03:10
clyrradin the vnc.conf file03:10
ShivsMy kubuntu freezes after a while and im forced 2 reboot. I have a biostar 6100 mobo wit onboard gforce graphics.03:10
clyrradantying else to set except the font path?03:10
flacciddont know03:10
clyrradhrm... ok03:10
Jucatobobbyyu: the one with plain "dapper" after that03:10
inteliwaspif i try to install a deb package, will it tell me dependency needs?03:11
Jucatobobbyyu: *not* dapper-upgrades, dapper-security, or dapper-backports. just plain dapper03:11
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Jucatointeliwasp: most likely, yes.03:11
E[m] esscan anyone help? http://rafb.net/paste/results/Pc49hJ50.html i need to fix acpi03:12
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flaccidi did help E[m] ess03:15
flaccidif you can't find something on google, E[m] ess then remove acpi until after the upgrade03:15
E[m] essi tried that and it didnt work03:15
E[m] essbecause the package uses acpi for something03:15
flaccidwhat command did you use?03:16
E[m] esssudo apt-get install -f03:17
E[m] essfixing stuff as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=164542103:17
bobbyyuHawkwind: are you telling me to enable all the universe sources?03:17
E[m] esssame error, i know the cause and how to fix it, but acpi is stopping the fix from working03:17
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flaccidE[m] ess: sudo apt-get install -f will not remove acpi03:19
flaccidsudo apt-get remove acpid acpi-support will03:20
sovoplease help how to install Yahoo Messenger03:20
E[m] essoh, i meant to fix the other error, but when looking at what happens, the otehr program relies on acpi being configured03:20
bobbyyu!vlc dapper03:20
ubotuvlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB03:20
LjLsovo: Kopete supports the Yahoo network03:20
bobbyyuWhich one is component universe?03:21
sovoyes I know03:21
flaccidyou are not listening, E[m] ess?03:21
sovobut i want to install YM03:21
E[m] essi am, il try removing acpi...again03:22
BlueEaglesovo: That just begs the question: Why?03:22
inteliwaspi am having trouble installing the drivers of my wireless card, i have a bcm43xx card (linksys)03:22
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sovoi want to try YM version linux03:23
sovowhen i install they need xlibs03:23
Jucatobobbyyu: didn't we tell you already? "deb http://blablah.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe"03:23
Jucatobobbyyu: it's already in the sources.list by default, you only need to enable/uncomment it03:24
bobbyyuI did that.03:24
HawkwindThen do a sudo apt-get update03:24
Jucatodid you sudo apt-get update?03:24
bobbyyuThere's no vlc in those sources03:24
HawkwindThen sudo apt-get install vlc03:24
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Hawkwindbobbyyu: Yes there is, or the bot wouldn't say there was03:24
bobbyyusudo apt-get update?03:24
LjLsovo, packages that are in the standard Ubuntu repositories are supported -- third party, weirdly packaged stuff is not. if you don't have a valid reason besides "i want to try it out", i'd recommend against it. then suit yourself...03:24
bobbyyuDidn't you think I searched?03:25
sovook then03:25
sovothanks LjL03:25
bobbyyuI put vlc on the input box and nothing appears03:25
Jucatobobbyyu: did you update first before you search? sudo apt-get update or Fetch Updates in Adept03:25
bobbyyuYou have to do that?03:25
Jucatobobbyyu: you must Fetch Updates first before you search, everytime you change something in sources.list03:25
Jucatobobbyyu: yes03:26
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bobbyyuSorry, I didn't know that03:31
bobbyyuNo hard feelings, I hope03:31
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Hawkwindbobbyyu: Jucato doesn't have feelings at all :P03:33
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HawkwindJucato: Did you feel that :P03:34
JucatoHawkwind: was that supposed to hurt?03:34
Jucatonope. didn't feel a thing :P03:34
flaccidany luck E[m] ess03:34
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E[m] essyeah, the update for kubuntu-desktop and xorg is working now03:34
E[m] esswhen i removed it before i only took off the support bit without realising03:35
esaymugh, i got the wmv plugins for firefox working. but what do i need to get the wmv working in mplayer?03:36
esaymhate to ask that question03:36
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:37
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inteliwaspesaym:  did you get that?03:37
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esaymyea pretty sure, one sec let me click on all those03:41
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joheyOmg, so much problems when upgrading dapper to edgy... But now I have finally managed to solve that.03:42
joheyIt broke my Xorg.03:42
Dasnipa] [i guess im lucky, it only broke my gtk03:42
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Dasnipa] [and only for one app03:42
esaymok getting wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb03:43
esaymwe will seee03:43
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto03:43
gary_help, i've lost my kmix control icon in the  taskbar, i can start it back up fromthe kmenu, but it's not there when i reboot03:44
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Ash-FoxOkay, good, those instructions are upto date.03:44
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Jucatogary_: if you're KDE session is set to "Restore from previous session", just leave it running when you logout03:46
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seishinbyouThe upgrade to me from Dapper to Edgy was anything but smooth, but after the fsck check and "automatic fix" destroyed my data, I was able to do a clean install with no problems03:46
Jucatogary_: if it isn't set to Restore from previous session, you have to make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart03:46
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Alter-Egowhat is katapult ?03:46
Jucatoseishinbyou: join the club! oh, and btw, ohayou! :)03:46
xsachaalt+space :) it launches programs Alter-Ego03:46
Jucato!katapult | Alter-Ego03:47
ubotuAlter-Ego: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.03:47
PenguinistaKCMy upgrade was pretty painless.03:47
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gary_oh, that makes sense thanks jucato!03:47
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thompaim having a problem with sound stuttering03:47
JucatoPenguinistaKC: you are then one of the "chosen" few. feel proud :)03:47
thompait wont stop, like system sound03:48
dude_hello guys03:48
xsachamy upgrade was painless, i just inserted kubuntu edgy cd and installed :)03:48
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Jucatolucky you :)03:48
seishinbyouJucato: , though it is just about noon anyways03:48
esaymok, that worked for the wmv.  thanks!03:48
thompathere is something wrong with sound in 64 though03:48
Jucatoseishinbyou: omg... I see boxes again!03:48
Jucatohold on...03:48
thompai tried a different sound card same thing03:48
joheyJapan! I see Japan! :D03:48
xsachaamd64? sound working fine here03:49
thompatap tap tap03:49
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xsachawhat format is it thompa?03:49
thompaxsacha: i tried changing the settings from auto03:49
Jucatoseishinbyou: I need utf-8 to see the correct text right?03:49
xsachais it all sound or just a particular format like mp3?03:49
thompaxsacha: its system sound, tapping away03:50
thompait will only stop if i reboot03:50
xsachathompa: are you using artsd?03:50
thompaf if i know03:50
seishinbyouJucato: I believe so03:50
seishinbyouThat is to say, I don't think I'm in JP Windows standard SJIS or anything03:51
thompaxsacha: restarting sound server loops03:51
thompait just keeps running03:51
xsachaSystem Settings->Sound System .. untick Enable the sound system?03:51
Lam_after installing nvidia-glx and restarting the computer using the "nvidia" driver, the bold-faced fonts are .. too bold?  is that supposed to happen?03:51
Jucatohm... better ask in Sho_ later...03:51
xsachause 'play' or something like that03:51
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RawSewageI keep forgetting this.  whats the command to make a  .sh file that opens a Konqueror profile03:52
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thompaxsacha: it wont stop after apply03:52
thompaive tried that03:52
xsachathompa: enable sound system is off?03:52
thompai wonder if its cause of ubuntu03:53
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thompadoesnt it not use arts or something03:53
thompaxsacha: yes its off03:53
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xsachaok go to Notifications in System Settings03:53
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thompaxsacha: its not feedback or anything either , case to know03:54
xsachago to Player Settings down bottom left corner03:54
xsachais it no audio output?03:54
thompaok just a sec . thanks03:54
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thompai had to shut speakers off03:54
thompagoing nuts03:54
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Jucatoseishinbyou: can you type something in japanese again?"03:55
E[m] essis it bad when updating packages if frontend cannot connect to xserver and falls back to dialog?03:56
thompaxsacha: where is that, im in sound system03:56
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Jucatostill nothing.. rawr03:56
xsachathompa: go to Notifications now, not sound system.. it'll be bottom right corner03:56
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thompaok i know, i did that too i think03:56
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thill2708How can I go about implementing a two dimensional vector?03:57
pacmananyone know anything about Ktorrent?03:57
xsachawhat's it on?03:57
Jucatoxsacha: thanks. still boxes :(03:57
thompakde system notifications03:57
E[m] essi see n boxes, only hiragana03:57
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xsachaJucato: /charset utf-8 ?03:57
E[m] esspacman: yes03:57
thompaim turning off all sounds03:57
pacmanEmess: how the hell do I make it work right?03:57
E[m] esswhats not working?03:58
xsachathompa: just go to player setting and check if sound is off thee03:58
pacmanI'm trying to get it to download something and all it says is stalled03:58
E[m] essxsachas font looked cooler for me than seishinbyou's, i wonder why?03:58
thompaxsacha: it says use kde sound, cool03:58
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xsachaok try making it use no sound03:58
E[m] esspacman: stalled means no seeds are sending you data is all, its the same as saying speed is 0.0Kb/s03:58
thompanope weird03:59
xsachano audio input it still makes that noise?03:59
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pacmanhow do I get it to start downloading03:59
Jucatoxsacha, seishinbyou: thanks... still trying to figure this out... @_@03:59
thompaxsacha: just a sec, i need to reboot03:59
thompai need to confirm something04:00
E[m] esspacman: it is started, jsut no seeds are sending you anything, is it a popular torrent?04:00
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E[m] essbecause eitehr you have no seeds or your firewall is blocking the ports04:00
pacmanI didn't think it was04:01
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pacmanit's starting to move now04:01
seishinbyouToo bad there isn't a Japanese-only channel around here :/04:01
seishinbyouOh well, beggers can't be choosers04:01
E[m] essjust use romanji then?04:01
pacmanonly 8 days left...heh04:01
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xsachaseishinbyou: try #japanese :)04:02
Alter-Egoheh heh, add/remove programs, set to gnome shows kde packages, set to kde shows gnome packages04:02
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seishinbyouE[m] ess: Because romaji is awkward and can lead to confusion with kanji since different characters can be romanized the same way04:02
E[m] essfair enough04:03
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E[m] essi take it your japanese then? where from?04:03
seishinbyouKiba, Eastern part of Tokyo04:03
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xsachakiba-dock :D04:03
E[m] essah nice04:04
Alter-Egobleh, add/remove programs just krashed out on me04:04
Alter-Egono error, no warning, just closed04:04
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thompaxsacha: i dnt think i have system sound now04:04
xsachastill makes annoying sound?04:04
seishinbyouKansai-ben... 04:04
seishinbyouand other oddities04:04
Alter-EgoE[m] ess: try #japanese or #nihongo04:04
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E[m] essAlter-Ego: id guess the people in tehre are their for technical assistance rather than waiting for someone to recruit them for anime-subbing lol04:05
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thompaxsacha: cool cd player is working04:05
seishinbyouYes, though I'm sure there are other channels for that :)04:05
E[m] essseishinbyou: overrated for sure, but when the show im watching is in it i understand nada04:05
thompaxsacha: whats up with that is is alsa?04:05
xsachathompa: yeah the sound you disabled was only for system notifications (like when you minimise windows and so on)04:06
E[m] essother channels? otehr networks maybe, like 95% of rizon04:06
knock12i have a problem with edgy eft - i can't play mp3's with amarok. I've already installed the xine-extracodes. MP3's work with XMMS, but Amarok doesn't play them?04:06
Alter-Egoso did mozilla foundation get thier trademark/logo ironed out ?04:06
Alter-Egodid iceweasel die ?04:06
thompaxsacha: so its not hardware related cause im going to switch back to the nvidia04:06
Jucatoknock12: libxine-extracdoecs ?04:06
seishinbyouE[m] ess: Yes, the variety comedy shows and most popular comedians use Kansai ben, but I don't watch much TV, and never really get a chance to use it here04:06
seishinbyouClosest was my Nagano-ben04:06
knock12@Jucato: yes04:07
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xsachathompa: not sure, i think it's a combination software/hardware dont like eachother -- in particular the artsd, just avoid artsd i think :)04:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:07
E[m] essah i watcha lot of anime, and they use kansai for wierd characters04:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:07
thompaxsacha: so far amd64 duo sata working flawlessly here04:08
xsacha#win32 ? #winapi for programming04:08
knock12Are the win32codecs needed to play mp3's with amarok?04:08
xsachathompa: the sound? good :) but you dont have sounds for minimising windows and other notifications?04:08
Alter-Egohelp.ubuntu.com is down ?04:09
Jucatoknock12: check if Amarok is using xine as the engine04:09
E[m] essErrors were encountered while processing:04:09
E[m] ess acpid04:09
E[m] ess acpi-support04:09
E[m] ess powermanagement-interface04:09
E[m] ess kubuntu-desktop04:09
E[m] essE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)04:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:09
E[m] esssorry for teh flood, but thats really not cool04:09
BlueEaglee[m] ess: Is that all you get? dpkg returned an error code (1)? Did you google it?04:10
E[m] essthats all, and google says its a standard code04:10
knock12@Jucato: Yes, it uses xine (it's the only available engine)04:10
BlueEaglee[m] ess: Seems like a segmentation fault :/04:10
Jucatoknock12: hm... that's strange.. :(04:11
seishinbyouWow, that's almost descriptive as a Safari error message: "There is an error in the configuration file"04:11
xsachaactually i'd prefer the error in config file than just "error code 1" :)04:11
seishinbyouI would too, but only because I can't stand looking at the OSX interface anyways (the pinstripes give me a headache)04:15
T3hWiz0rdseishinbyou: pinstripes are gone04:16
T3hWiz0rdseishinbyou: have been since 10.4.204:16
T3hWiz0rdseishinbyou: it was replaced with "polished metal", which will replace aqua 100% by 10.504:18
seishinbyouIn Tiger, the menu backgrounds still have the faint white/light grey striped pattern for me as well as some window backgrounds04:19
seishinbyouor grey/darker grey04:19
T3hWiz0rdseishinbyou: *shrugs* everything is either neutral gray or polished metal for me04:19
T3hWiz0rdseishinbyou: and i've got a mac burning away my sperm count on my lap right now.04:19
seishinbyouGood heaters, those are04:20
seishinbyouThe LaVie laptop at work gets stupid hot, though04:20
seishinbyouIt frequently shuts itself down04:20
seishinbyoujust burns up, and that is with all the fans blasting away04:20
T3hWiz0rdAsus laptops stay cool. I am gonna get a 600 dollar one and use it to make a mini server out of its parts lol04:20
T3hWiz0rda demonstration linux server for work04:20
T3hWiz0rdgonna put it in a pandabox04:20
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T3hWiz0rdor maybe i'll just be orthadox and leave it as a laptop and use that for the server demo04:21
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E[m] essBlueEagle: http://rafb.net/paste/results/WIcEcA70.html thats what happened04:22
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shadowhywindanyone that has upgraded to edgy, and looked at fstab, does it look werid?04:22
shadowhywindcan anyone help me set up my swap partition, which looks like it got messed up in the upgrade?04:23
BlueEaglee[m] ess http://bergen.mislykket.no/image.php?id=135704:23
Hawkwindshadowhywind: It's the new UUID stuff in fstab04:23
BlueEaglee[m] ess: mever mind...04:23
E[m] essoh, ok04:23
shadowhywindwhen i open up KDE sysstem guard, it says no swap space available04:24
shadowhywindwhat i think is my swap is, UUID=073254cd-fc2c-4c5a-82cb-f651cd5f9bba none swap sw 0 004:24
BlueEaglee[m] ess: I really do not know what is causing that. Suspects do include bad downloads, broken file system or bad packages.04:25
E[m] essok, i might try and reinstall acpi tehn04:25
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shadowhywindi just opened qtparted, and for my swap-partition, it comes up with unknow, if i reformate it as a linux-swap would that fix it?04:28
shadowhywindany thoughts?04:29
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Jucatoshadowhywind: a swap partition should always be linux-swap04:29
shadowhywindit was a linux-swap in dapper hehe04:30
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shadowhywindsome how edgy got confused with it04:30
shadowhywindif i reformate it, would edgy automatically see it and fix fstab?04:30
Jucatoshadowhywind: btw, that's a normal fstab line for swap in Edgy04:31
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JucatoI don't see anything wrong with the fstab line....04:31
shadowhywindi just got used to the old version04:31
JucatoUUID=dc22d891-ecc4-4c44-80ee-90d0c4e8b61d none            swap    sw              0       004:31
Jucatothat's mine04:31
JucatoEdgy uses a new UUID system in place of the old /dev stuff04:32
shadowhywindcould my problem be, qtparted is saying /dev/sda7 *which should be linux-swap* but it is showing it as Type unknow and Used space N/A04:32
Lam_after installing nvidia-glx and restarting the computer using the "nvidia" driver, the bold-faced fonts are .. too bold?  is that supposed to happen?04:32
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Alter-EgoJucato: why did they move to a uuid system ?04:33
Alter-Egowhat makes it better ?04:33
Alter-Ego or worse ?04:33
jontecwhat is uuid?04:33
shadowhywindso should i reformat my swap to make qtparted happy?04:33
shadowhywindand see if that is my problem?04:34
Jucatoshadowhywind: probably. no harm in reformatting swap I think04:34
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JucatoAlter-Ego: to give way to something called PATA, I think. I'm not really familiar with it04:34
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KooL4444hey guys, anyone available to help? i messed up my kubuntu04:36
jontechow can I find what a symbolic link points to? is there like a terminal command?04:36
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jontecbe more specific, KooL444404:36
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:37
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KooL4444kk sorry itll take me a minute to formulate it, just makis sure its not all bots in here04:37
flaccidE[m] ess: doesn't look like you actually removed acpi04:37
Jucatojontec: ls -l <file>04:38
E[m] essi did, and it came back :S04:39
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Jucatojontec: or you can mouse-over the file in Konqi04:39
Alter-EgoPATA ?04:39
KooL4444i tried to install XGL and put it into this .Xsession file and restarted, well after my login screen after reboot it doesnt start up, just goes back to the login screen04:39
JucatoAlter-Ego: libata for ATA disks04:40
KooL4444how do i delete that .Xsession file so it doesnt try to use it in boot?04:40
JucatoAlter-Ego: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LibAtaForAtaDisks04:40
jontecjucato: gracias04:40
Alter-Egoi think my isp dns is down04:41
Alter-Egoi cannot get to any website04:41
flaccidE[m] ess: remove it again or you may not be able to get paste the issue04:41
KooL4444ping google.com04:41
flaccidE[m] ess: use public dns.
T3hWiz0rd4.2.2.1 ftw04:41
Alter-Egoping google.com04:41
Alter-Egoping: unknown host google.com04:41
JucatoAlter-Ego: yes most probably04:41
E[m] esswait what? im lsot here04:42
flaccidT3hWiz0rd yep :)04:42
flaccidoops i meant to let Alter-Ego know of the dns, not E[m] ess04:42
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E[m] essoh o04:43
E[m] essi tried to remove acpi again but it keeps trying to cnfigure it and screws up04:43
Alter-Egoflaccid: your lost ?04:43
flaccidi'm not lost no04:43
Alter-Egoer, nm04:43
Alter-Egowhat is public dns ?04:43
flaccidit is a public dns server you can use04:44
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flaccidyou can use it when your isp dns goes down04:44
KooL4444can anyone help me with deleting the .Xsession file from my desktop through the safe mode prompt? i have a copy of what is in the file04:44
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shadowhywindok so the exteremly funny thing04:45
shadowhywindbooted into windows to use partitionmagic, it had the swap drive as a linux swap drive, in ntfs04:45
flaccidyeah windows can sometimes allocate drive letter to linux partitions04:46
flaccidquite annoying04:46
shadowhywindbut i haven't been in windows in about 2 weeks, hehe04:46
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E[m] essflaccid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/rM0umO94.html04:46
shadowhywindbut, I still don't have a swap on linux yet04:47
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malbichohi all04:48
shadowhywindso fstab has a swap UUID, mtab has nothing about a swap04:48
terdinatorWhat do "pros" use as movie player within firefox? Mplayer-Plugin?04:48
Kiongkuhey guys.. u know where is the file that control the resolution at login?04:48
JucatoKiongku: xorg.conf04:48
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shadowhywindso is there supposed to be a record in mtab?04:49
malbichoanyone speak spanish?04:49
KiongkuJucato: i cant seem to see the line04:49
Jucato!es | malbicho04:49
ubotumalbicho: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:49
JucatoKiongku: try looking for the "virtual" line04:49
Kiongkuno birtual04:50
Jucatohm... strange...04:50
shadowhywindso any ideas?04:50
flaccidE[m] ess: sudo dpkg -P acpi acpi-support04:50
KooL4444i ran a command "chmod +x /.Xsession" how do i turn that chmod off?04:51
flaccidsorry you put acpi and not acpid04:51
flaccidE[m] ess: sudo dpkg -P acpid acpi-support04:51
malbichoi want to install the correct kernel, i have an AMD Athlon, do i have to install k7?04:51
E[m] essdpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove acpi which isn't installed.04:51
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flaccidyeah acpi is not a package but acpid is04:51
KiongkuJucato: should i run this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"?04:51
Jucatomalbicho: are you on Dapper or on Edgy?04:51
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malbichoJucato: Edgy04:52
flaccidaccidently closed irc heh04:52
Jucatomalbicho: use the -generic kernel. it's optimized for all processors04:52
malbichooh ok04:52
shadowhywindis there a way to repop fstab?04:52
malbichoi was looking that in adept manager says Obsoleted by generic in the k704:53
malbichothanks Jucato04:53
Jucatomalbicho: sure thing :)04:53
flaccidwork now E[m] ess?04:53
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E[m] essdpkg - warning: while removing acpi-support, directory `/var/lib/acpi-support' not empty so not removed04:53
E[m] essother than that error yes04:53
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flaccidok try continuing the upgrade04:54
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shadowhywindany ideas?04:55
E[m] essthe upgrade is for kubuntu-desktop and it installs acpi...04:55
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KooL4444how do i search for a file from a prompt?04:55
E[m] essThe following extra packages will be installed:04:55
E[m] ess  acpi acpi-support acpid powermanagement-interface04:55
terdinatorHow do I get any video to play within a web browser?04:56
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E[m] essmplayer or vlc plugin04:57
flaccidE[m] ess: thats ok. they should be the correct packages for edgy..04:57
flaccidE[m] ess: is it proceeding?04:57
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E[m] essstill problems04:58
flaccidwhat now04:58
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Genixwhenever i run kubuntu now for some reason it goes past the kubuntu loading screen and then it just shows me like a text prompt but the _ doesn't blink and it just stays like that04:59
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E[m] essflaccid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/n3FKyt11.html04:59
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E[m] essseems liek it cant configur, iv found some info on this in google so reading it now05:00
jontecif someone says something is not in your path what do they mean?05:00
shadowhywindi decided to try to do swapon -a, and i got swapon: cannot stat /dev/disk/by-uuid/073254cd-fc2c-4c5a-82cb-f651cd5f9bba: No such file or directory05:00
flaccidE[m] ess: looks like it is having a problem starting acpi - don't know why. i would install the packages from the meta package kubuntu-desktop manually, then go back to acpi.05:01
flaccidif you have heldback packages i would install those first as well05:01
E[m] essiv found a posible fix, doing it now05:01
flaccidjust in case its related05:01
flaccidyeah this is pretty typical of an edgy upgrade E[m] ess. so much issues like this that lots of people are having to go trhough05:02
flaccidi gtg out for a bit05:02
E[m] essok, later yo~05:03
Genixanyone have any ideas for me?05:03
E[m] essit looks to me that it cant configure acpid tho05:03
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Kiongkuduh 5 mins witha 60hz rez makes my eyes hurt..05:06
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:06
E[m] ess!acpid edgy05:06
ubotuacpid: Utilities for using ACPI power management. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.4-5ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 176 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)05:06
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E[m] essis there a way to undo changes and revert back to dapper while keping xorg 7.1.1?05:08
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shefthow do i fix the sync in youtube videos and google videos??? i downloaded: FP9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz which has libflashplayer.so in it, but i dont understand where to put it?05:09
unix_infidelisnt there a 3rd party deb around yet?05:10
Kiongku!flash9 > shef05:10
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Genixwhenever i run kubuntu now for some reason it goes past the kubuntu loading screen and then it just shows me like a text prompt but the _ doesn't blink and it just stays like that05:18
KooL4444how do i install XGL and compiz? im running Edgy and an ATi video card05:18
E[m] essKooL4444: you sure you want xgl and compiz? if you have edgy you can use aiglx and beryl05:19
E[m] essxgl replaces xorg, while aiglx is aprt of it05:19
E[m] essso tis faster05:19
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E[m] essand beryl is the community fork of compiz, its nicer'05:19
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KooL4444i just want MacOSX type window handling and the cube efect with the desktops05:20
KooL4444does beryl have the cube effect and window handling?05:20
E[m] essyes05:20
xsachaberyl is forl of compiz (improved)05:20
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xsachawell improved eye candy :)05:21
jontecI need to... uhh... add graphviz to my path. It's installed with the graphviz package, how do I do it?05:21
KooL4444so i dont need xgl for baryl?05:21
ubotugraphviz: rich set of graph drawing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1353 kB, installed size 3764 kB05:21
KooL4444all i need is baryl?05:21
E[m] essfor beryl all you need is xorg 7.1 which you have with edgy, you trurn on aiglx and voila05:22
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E[m] essKooL4444: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX05:22
KooL4444do i install baryl first or turn on aiglx first?05:22
E[m] essread that05:22
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E[m] essanyone want to tell me how to configure acpid so kubuntu-desktop is fixed and i can finish my ugrade?05:23
seishinbyouThere, VMWare is back up and running.  Now for the "fun" part of installing Visual Studio in the vmware'd XP05:23
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hananI'm getting a  module ABI major version mismatch on my x.org server. What should I do? (just upgraded dapper->edgy)05:25
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hanan(to do with nv drver)05:25
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hanannevermind, switched to closed, official driver05:26
huminskmy firefox 2.0 crash when i open a webpage with flash. Anyone knows why?05:28
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KooL4444wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -05:28
KooL4444do i type all that on one line?05:29
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E[m] essKooL4444: each line on the sie is a lin of text, so if its in one line then yes05:30
rythanIs there a reason that installing nvidia-settings removes nvidia-glx?05:30
sheftis there a guide to enable aiglx on kubuntu edgy?05:31
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E[m] esssheft: yes, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX05:32
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E[m] essyou jsut opent eh xorg.conf and turn on aiglx at the bottom05:32
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sheftE[m] ess: where's the xorg.conf file?05:34
rythanNobody knows?05:34
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E[m] esssheft: /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:34
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shadowhywindi got my swap partition working, and i can hibernate now, But i can not come back from hibernate. Because the swap partition does not load while it is booting up any ideas?05:36
_goofy_when mounting a hdd where do i specify the filesystem type05:36
DekKeDis it me or there haven't been any updates in Edgy's repos since 3 days before it was released?05:36
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JucatoDekKeD: no updates05:37
DekKeDJucato: ok, i thought my repos were broken or something :P05:37
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks05:37
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Kiongkudamn adept not starting05:42
somethingKiongku: what is wrong05:42
Kiongkuadept refuses to start up.. but apt-get in command works05:42
E[m] essim trying to upgrade form dapper to edgy and acpid is killing all my dependencies so i cant continue with the update, acpid wont configure, http://rafb.net/paste/results/n3FKyt11.html is the error05:42
E[m] essiv been working on this for 4 hours now :(05:43
rythanI'll ask again :)05:43
rythanIs there a reason that installing nvidia-settings removes nvidia-glx?05:43
rythanOr am I missing something?05:44
Jucatorythan: yes. because nvidia-settings is an older (I think obsolete) incompatible version. nvidia-glx has it's own05:44
rythanAh ... thanks05:44
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Jucatorythan: if you install nvidia-glx, you can still run nvidia-settings, afaik05:45
Jucatoyep you can. just checked05:45
rythanNo, it removes it05:45
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rythanAnd vice versa05:45
rythanHrm ...05:45
Jucatorythan: I already said that nvidia-glx has it's own.05:46
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Jucatohas its own nvidia-settings program, which doesn't come in a separate package05:46
E[m] essJucato: any idea on my problem?05:46
Jucatoit's built into nvidia-settings05:46
JucatoE[m] ess: sorry, no idea :(05:46
kool4444_i tried to install beryl, and this is the messege i get when i try to run it05:46
rythanAh thanks ... I expoected a menu entry05:46
rythaner expected05:46
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kool4444_kool4444@FIRE:~$ beryl05:46
kool4444_XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA05:46
kool4444_Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX05:46
kool4444_beryl: No composite extension05:46
kool4444_why wont it work?05:47
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joe_Well, I've been on linux 3 days, still going thru windows withdrawals sometimes my hands shake?05:47
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soundmaster80is there a program that will look up my albums on amazon and tag them automatically05:47
soundmaster80that will pass joe05:47
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E[m] esskool4444_: you havent turned on composite manager05:48
E[m] essor if you have you didnt restart x05:48
kool4444_how do i turn it on?05:48
terdinatorIs the KDE weather applet very experamental right now? Because no matter what station I put into the "selected stations", I always get "Uknown Station" for the location.05:48
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soundmaster80use superkaramba and liquidweather05:48
joe_Are sure, I started thinking about going back to windows when I couldn't get an mp3 to play05:48
soundmaster80much better05:48
soundmaster80just hang with it joe05:49
E[m] esskool4444_: its int eh x options,t hat pge i linked explains it05:49
rythanYeah joe ... it takes a little convincing but it all comes together05:49
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kool4444_k ill check it again05:49
Jucato!mp3 > joe_05:49
soundmaster80however, i will say that i would go back to windows when i gave up on linux05:50
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soundmaster80and over time i've stayed longer and longer05:50
E[m] essjoe_: if you go to the ubuntu wiki,t he page called RestrictedFormats epxlains how to get mp3 working05:50
soundmaster80till now i'm happy :)05:50
kool4444_nothing on that page about composite05:50
soundmaster80kool444 what are you doing again?05:50
joe_I don't know if I can hold out.  I still can't print and havent a clue how to network to my laptop05:50
soundmaster80have you looked at www.ubuntuguide.org05:50
terdinatorJoe and Soundmaster, Go ahead and give the program "Amarok" a try for your MP3 needs.05:50
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E[m] esskool4444_: pastebin your x config05:51
E[m] essand il have a look05:51
terdinatorIt will grab MP3 codecs for your automatically and it will also tag your MP3's from Amazon.com05:51
soundmaster80amarok i like however it's not what i'm wanting for MP3 taggine05:51
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terdinatorI see05:51
Jucatojoe_: sent you the link for MP3 instructions.05:51
kool4444_what does pastebin mean? this is my first day on linux05:51
soundmaster80i used mediamonkey in windows and loved it05:52
soundmaster80but i haven't found a substitute in windows05:52
Jucato!pastebin | kool4444_05:52
ubotukool4444_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:52
joe_amorock had errors when it tried to update mp3 codecs05:52
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terdinatorHas anybody played with the weather applet for KDE? It seems non functional.05:52
soundmaster80kool4444....check www.ubuntuguide.org05:52
E[m] essfirst day on ubuntu and you're using beryl/aiglx? :O05:52
soundmaster80no, again i use the liquidweather widget05:52
kool4444_!pastebin | kool4444_05:52
ubotukool4444_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:52
joe_I had one victory.  vanessae helped me install flah 9 plugin so I can get my fix of movies at metacafe05:53
terdinatoris there a package for liquidweather?05:53
Jucatojoe_: ok, you need to enable the multiverse compenonet of your repositories. once you've done that, all you need to do is install the package "libxine-extracodecs"05:53
kool4444_ahh ok, what should i paste inthere?05:53
soundmaster80yeah, you need to install superkaramba first05:53
Jucatoterdinator: liquid weather is a Superkaramba theme. install superkaramba then download the theme05:53
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soundmaster80apt-get install superkaramba05:54
terdinatorOk, is Superkaramba a theme manager?05:54
rythanI just finished doing just that - SuperKaramba :)05:54
rythanIt is more of a "Widget" manager05:54
Jucatokool4444_: if you need to paste long lines of text, like error messages and stuff, you can use that service instead of pasting directly into the channel05:54
soundmaster80ok, then go to www.liquidweather.net05:54
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Jucatoterdinator: Superkaramba is a desktop applet program. the little applets that you run using superkaramba are called Superkaramba themes05:54
Jucatonot the same with the general usage of the word "theme"05:55
sistemasGood morning to all05:55
kool4444_ok i pasted the error in there when i run the beryl command05:55
gameman73sweet,  ill ask here since #ubuntu was a load of help,    need help with fglrx and X after an upgrade to edgy05:55
sistemasI want to install my Lexmark X118505:55
E[m] esskool4444_: your x config05:55
Jucatokool4444_: then you give the URL that comes out05:55
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sistemasHow do I do that?05:55
kool4444_so i just type "xconfig" and paste that?05:55
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E[m] essno, pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:56
soundmaster80have you been there...that usually works05:56
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noxxlei accidently removed the volume and power applet icons from the taskbar and now i cannot figure out how to get them back. I can find the kmix, but the icon is different and when i click on it, it does not show the volume icon.05:56
K`zanHave I got something wrong or is kuickshow not available under ubuntu?05:57
soundmaster80i use that to install it and had no problems, lol doesn't mean you won't but they usually work :)05:57
joe_how can I tell if my usb ports are recognized by the os do I need drivers?05:57
somethingi am not wrong !05:57
somethingand you don't have me05:57
gameman73joe_: not typically,,,  90% of usb drivers are included with the kernel05:57
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gameman73usb is something thats always "just worked" for me05:58
kool4444_ok http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29289/05:58
somethingi never worked for you05:58
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kool4444_there it is05:58
CuboidCan someone here tell me what I've done wrong with upgrading to 6,10? At first I changed the sources.list file, the word dapper replaced with edgy, I tried apt-get upgrade and it just said that there were no files needed at all. Tried with dapper and it installed 183 files. Now , I don't think that this is 6.10. Is there a way for me to find out and if it isn't, what did I do wrong?05:58
JucatoK`zan: kuickshow has been dropped from Ubuntu since Dapper, due to incompatibility05:58
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soundmaster80comment out dri05:59
gameman73o_O   we have someone here named something.....   *shrug*05:59
Jucato!upgrade | Cuboid05:59
ubotuCuboid: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)05:59
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joe_thanks jucato.  mp3 is working.  that was easy.   my hands arent shaking as much now05:59
xsachasomething or some0ne?05:59
K`zanJucato: arghhhhhhhhh, I use that a lot, guess I'll have to get the source and go through all that :-(.  Thanks.05:59
kool4444_oh wait there is more to paste05:59
splease i need some help with flash and Flock / Firefox05:59
somethinglol, i kept getting this pong from the speakers and i was like 'huh'05:59
noxxlei accidently removed the volume and power applet icons from the taskbar and now i cannot figure out how to get them back. I can find the kmix, but the icon is different and when i click on it, it does not show the volume icon.05:59
JucatoK`zan: I'll try asking the devs. you're not the first person (and probably not the last) looking for it05:59
kool4444_how do i select everything in the file?05:59
Lam_i installed nvidia-glx on my computer, enabled it, and restarted my kde.  now the bold fonts are too bold.  is that caused by something else?05:59
Jucatokool4444_: Ctrl+A06:00
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K`zanJucato: VERY much appreciated!06:00
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K`zanJucato: Very handy little utility.06:00
gameman73can anyone give me some help?  fglrx kinda took a crap on me after edgy upgrade06:00
joe_as with getting off any addiction you have to have a support group.  I would be helpless w/o this IRC.  Thanks everyone.06:00
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xsachayeah ctrl+a or highlight it, or click at start and shift+click end, or there should be select all in menu if it is a GUI app06:00
kool4444_ok thats the whole file06:01
E[m] esskool4444: that cant be your whole xconfig, its too small06:01
kool4444_updated just now06:01
CuboidIt is still doing it.06:01
E[m] essoh ok06:01
Cuboidroot@laptop:~# apt-get -u dist-upgrade06:01
CuboidReading package lists... Done06:01
CuboidBuilding dependency tree... Done06:01
CuboidCalculating upgrade... Done06:01
Cuboid0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.06:01
terdinatorFor SuperKaramba, what format do I download widget packages in, tar packages?06:01
rythanif available06:01
Jucatoterdinator: .tar.gz, but you have to extract them06:02
soundmaster80kool4444 are you able to see what i'm writing?06:02
kool4444_i saw that06:02
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rythanWhat will break if I try to follow the dorections at: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Eye_Candy06:02
E[m] essok kool4444, you need to make teh changes for aiglx, so where it ahs sectione xtension, for composite you have '0', you need that to be enabled isntead of 006:02
soundmaster80i just wanted to make sure you had seen that site i sent you...you never answered06:02
kool4444_did i miss somthin soundmaster?06:03
rythanOn Kubuntu edgy that is06:03
soundmaster80rythan, what are you worried about06:03
terdinatoris ImageMagick a direct dependency of LiquidWeather?06:03
soundmaster80if it doesn't work the X probably wont startt06:03
kool4444_so just type "Enable" in there?06:03
rythanThat XGL/Compiz will work or not?06:03
soundmaster80terdinator...yes it is06:03
sPlease I need some help!06:03
E[m] essyes,you need to maek some mroe changes as well06:03
soundmaster80kool4444.... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Eye_Candy06:04
terdinatorDo I grab ImageMagick from a repository with apt-get?06:04
E[m] essin teh modules section, add in Load "dbe"06:04
E[m] essand also # Load "GLcore"06:04
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rythanYeup -- apt-get install imagemagick06:04
soundmaster80it has instructions for ATI cards....i just wanted to make sure you had used that06:04
E[m] essyou need to maek sure teh # is there so it doesnt use GLcore06:04
noxxlei accidently removed the volume and power applet icons from the taskbar and now i cannot figure out how to get them back. I can find the kmix, but the icon is different and when i click on it, it does not show the volume icon.06:04
Lam_does anyone else have an outrageously bold font for their panel clock?06:04
soundmaster80lam_ , you can change that :)06:05
sPlease help me! When i open a page that conains Flash content Firefox crashes and quits!06:05
JucatoLam_: does it only affect you clock?06:05
E[m] esskool4444 then in server layout, add in Option           "AIGLX" "true"06:05
Lam_Jucato: lol no, but the bold is annoying since it happened out of nowhere06:05
E[m] essso that aiglx turns on06:05
soundmaster80hang on s i have a post that helped me06:05
soh great!06:05
E[m] essif your in pico us ctrl-o to save and then ctrl-x to exit06:05
Lam_soundmaster80: how would i go about changing it if i don't know what caused it?  my Appearance settings seem fine06:05
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terdinatorIt says it cant find package ImageMagick <----- is this is the normal repositories or do I have to grab it manually?06:05
JucatoLam_: you could probably check for Fonts in System Settings?06:05
Lam_Jucato: that's where i am right now.06:05
Lam_Jucato: everything is default.06:06
soundmaster80lam_ if you will right click on the clock you can configure it06:06
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gameman73can anyone give me some help?  fglrx kinda took a crap on me after edgy upgrade  :(06:06
soundmaster80should be able to change the fonts,colors and things just for the clock06:06
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Lam_soundmaster80: it's not a clock thing.  i was using the clock as a reference point.  everything bold in Sans Serif 9 is REALLY bold06:06
CuboidThanks. I think it's actually doing it now.06:07
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terdinatorBlueLoonie are you from Michigan Tech University????06:07
soundmaster80system settings > fonts.....check them there06:07
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inteliwaspi'm trying to get wireless to work but the interface disapeared from iwconfig06:07
xsachayes he is06:07
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soundmaster80i dl'd lucida grande and changed all mine06:08
sebastian22soundmaster80: where's the post?06:08
soundmaster80i'm looking, i'm sorry....give me a secx06:08
soundmaster80flash problem wasn't it ?06:08
sebastian22oh ok thx man06:08
kool4444_ok emess, i made the changes, now just save and reboot?06:08
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Emesssave and restart x06:08
sebastian22it quits when i enter a page with flash content06:08
Emessrestart x with ctrl-alt-backspace06:08
xsachasebastian22: amd64?06:08
sebastian22amd athlon xp06:09
Pensa`MIAis there a 386 kernel for edgy, because the generic kernel is not working properly with the nvidia drivers06:09
kool4444_under the module section should it be # Load "GLcore" or without the pound sign?06:09
xsachanonfree flash?06:09
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terdinatorWhere do I get ImageMagick?06:09
Emessinclude teh hash, its nto a poundsign06:09
soundmaster80there you go....first one did it for me :)06:09
xsachalol@pound sign06:09
kool4444_heh sorry06:09
Jucatohm... I'm having a weird problem with flash... works with Konqueror, but not with Firefox/Swiftfox...06:09
sebastian22great thanks soundmaster80 i will try it06:09
soundmaster80i hope it works for you :)06:10
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Jucatooh nvm.. just doesn't work on Swiftfox...06:10
dinosaur-rushi all06:10
Emesslooks like my problem an only be fixed by ubuntu dev, nobody knows :(06:10
soundmaster80sebastion, please let me know if it works06:11
KooL4444oh oh, tried to run beryl after it restarted and it crashed, its now frozen06:11
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Emessdid composite start?06:12
dudeabattoir !06:12
xsachaKooL4444: kwin --replace06:13
dudejucato !06:13
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Jucatodude: hi!06:13
xsachait's not completely frozen right?06:13
KooL4444i think compostie started06:13
KooL4444it was frozen, i had to do ctrl alt bckspc06:13
wombat_Could someone please tell me what to do with an *.rpm file?06:13
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KooL4444whats kwin --replace?06:13
xsachactrl alt backspace worked then wasnt frozen06:13
soundmaster80wombat.....burn it in the firey pits of hell06:14
xsachareplaces window manager back to kwin, so you get your borders back06:14
soundmaster80along with all the other rpm's of the world :)06:14
dudejucato: is there a widget like app for kubuntu?06:14
dinosaur-rusdoes anybody know if it's possible to switch language with just Ctrl+Shift?06:14
soundmaster80dude.....apt-get install superkaramba06:14
Jucatodude: Superkaramba06:14
KiongkuJucato: darn kdesu does not work anymore06:14
JucatoKiongku: what does it say?06:14
dudetnx guys06:14
wombat_soundmaster80: it's a game I want to install06:15
Kiongkuit just does not work. I do kdesu adept_manager.. puts password but then it just goes out without a word06:15
terdinatorWhere did you get ImageMagick so you could use LiquidWeather Widget?06:15
KooL4444after i run "beryl-manager" all my windows freeze, but i can right click on the emerald06:15
Kiongkuthe program is never started06:15
JucatoKiongku: try running it from Konsole06:15
xsachathats not kdesu not working then06:15
soundmaster80a game?06:15
KiongkuJucato: thats from konsole06:15
soundmaster80oh oh06:15
soundmaster80what's the game?06:16
xsachaKiongku: what does it say after what you typed? it just goes back to $?06:16
wombat_soundmaster: I downloaded a linux version of a game and this is the file i got. Is it doe a different distro?06:16
sebastian22soundmaster80: How do i change the color depth in kubuntu?06:16
wombat_Scorched Earth 3D06:16
soundmaster80ok, just a sec....wombat. rpm's are red hat, etc...your looking for .deb packages06:17
JucatoKiongku: hm... have you tried launching any other app with kdesu? or tried clicking on the Administrator Mode button?06:17
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xsachasebastian22: /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> section screen -> DefaultDepth06:17
soundmaster80thank you xsacha :)06:17
Kiongkuxsacha: yah06:17
KooL4444me Jucato?06:17
terdinatorDo you manually have to compile ImageMagick or is there a package for it?06:17
JucatoKooL4444: no not you. Kiongku06:17
wombat_Soundmaster: Thanx, I wasn't sure06:17
KooL4444oh ok06:17
KiongkuJucato: i've done kdesu adept_manager.. kdesu synaptic.. kdesu kate non work06:17
soundmaster80you can change a RPM to DEB with alien but i don't know how reliable it is06:18
Kiongkusudo works though06:18
JucatoKiongku: hmm... have you tried rebooting (eek!)06:18
Kiongkusudo synaptic starts the program as it should be06:18
terdinatorSoundmaster did you manually compile ImageMagick?06:18
KiongkuJucato: rebooted thrice06:18
dinosaur-rusKiongsu: try to reboot, that worked for me06:18
JucatoKiongku: that is indeed bad...06:18
Kiongkudid not work here..06:18
soundmaster80should be apt-get install imagemagick06:18
terdinatorhmmm.... I have all repositories enabled, but ImageMagick is not in there06:18
inteliwaspi'm trying to get wireless to work but the interface disapeared from iwconfig. how can i fix this?06:18
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JucatoKiongku: and after those reboots, kdesu still doesn't work?06:18
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xsachaKiongku: how do you get into KDE?06:19
sudharshterdinator: hmm...i guess its imagemagick06:19
wombat_Soundmaster: it's ok, I'll just download the *.deb file :D06:19
xsachaautomatically? startkde?..06:19
soundmaster80hang on i'll check06:19
Jucatoterdinator: imagemagick is in main06:19
soundmaster80yeah, i just installed it06:19
gameman73 does ANYONE know what the crap "FATAL:  Error running install command for flgrx" might mean?   fglrx refuses to work"06:19
Kiongkuxsacha: by login manager lol06:20
KooL4444so when i run the beryl command, it seems like xwindows freezes, then i do ctrl-alt-bckspc and its back to original06:20
soundmaster80do apt-cache search imagemagick06:20
soundmaster80that should point you to the right package06:20
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Kiongkuwait i brb06:21
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terdinatorThere we go, Thanks Soundmaster!  =)06:21
soundmaster80hey wombat06:21
soundmaster80you can do apt-get install scorched3d06:21
soundmaster80shoud be able to anyways06:22
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K`zanAm I doing something wrong here?  df isn't listing nfs mounts even with -a ?!?06:22
KooL4444whats the difference between the cd download and the DVD download of kubuntu?06:23
Kiongkuevern restarting x server does not solve anything..06:23
wombat_soundmaster: at the terminal?06:23
JucatoKooL4444: lots of stuff. DVD contains everythin in the main and restricted repositories, and probably some universe stuff too06:23
soundmaster80if it doesn't then i would go to the www.ubuntuguide.org and change my sources.list to theirs06:23
Emessoh gawd a wombat :P06:23
soundmaster80cool, i wondered that myself06:24
KooL4444does all that stuff get installed automatically? or is it for ppl who dont have broadband?06:24
Lam_thanks :)06:24
JucatoKooL4444: people who don't have broadband. and they don't get installed automatically06:25
KooL4444kk ty06:25
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo06:25
Kiongkudeleting .kde06:26
JucatoKiongku: I suggest just renaming it06:26
terdinatorMan this superkaramba rocks!06:28
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soundmaster80yeah, i quite like it06:28
KooL4444im just gonna reinstall all of kubuntu and start fresh with this deryl crap06:28
soundmaster80i just wish it was compatible with konfabulator stuff06:28
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Kiongkuduh did not sovle it06:29
xsachakdesu -v    what version? :P06:30
KooL4444soundmaster80 can you paste that link that you pasted earlier i didnt get a chace to look at it, is it for installing deryl?06:31
soundmaster80sure kool06:31
dudejucato: how do i use superkaramba06:31
soundmaster80i'll just give you the full site06:31
soundmaster80it will help you with many things06:31
KooL4444thnx, bookmarked06:31
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org06:31
Jucatodude: download a superkaramba theme fro kde-look06:31
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xsachaQt: 3.3.6 KDE: 3.5.5 KDE su: 1.0?06:32
momalhelp... when i got home today my kde was loged out. when i put in user/pass for any user it just goes black screen then loads the login screen again06:32
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momalno errors are shown and log file doesn't show anything inormal :S06:32
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soundmaster80BTW, just to throw this out there....if you find yourself using the console for various things i would install "yakuake"06:33
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soundmaster80i don't know what i did before i found that06:33
xsachamomal: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE  none?06:33
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Kiongkuyah sorry disc06:33
momali'll have  acheck im in irssi at the moment06:33
KiongkuQt: 3.3.606:33
KiongkuKDE: 3.5.506:33
KiongkuKDE su: 1.006:33
Kiongkuis it like urs?06:33
xsachayes, same06:33
xsachawhy did momal quit irssi?06:33
KooL4444is thiswhat im lookin at for deryl? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268149&highlight=howto+ati+xgl06:34
soundmaster80yup, it is :)06:34
xsachaderyl you keep saying, you mean beryl?06:34
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KooL4444yeh, sorry lol06:34
KooL4444im all confused06:35
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momalit just shows a line saying (ww) warning (ee) error and few other codes06:35
KooL4444before today ive never heard of any of this06:35
xsachamomal: you dont need to quit irssi06:35
inteliwasphow do i adjust the time in CLI?06:35
momalhow can i get to cmd then ?06:35
momalfrom irssi06:35
xsachapress alt+f2 to go to tty and alt+f1 to come back to tty1 -- you have 6 tty06:35
momalahhh smart cookie :o06:35
xsachawith F1->F606:35
momalany other ideas on how to fix kde :(06:36
terminus_hi, my dhclient don't give a IP, any idea?, it say:06:36
terminus_HCPREQUEST on eth0 to port 6706:36
terminus_DHCPACK from
terminus_bound to -- renewal in 2836 seconds06:36
xsachaF7 will take you back to the kde login06:36
momalor get some info to fix it06:36
xsachathere was no errors in that log momal?06:36
Kiongkuwhere is kdesu pacakge supposed to be?06:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about entrance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:36
inteliwasphow do i reset the time in CLI?06:36
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momalnope just those codes i said eariler :S06:37
momaland kdm.log did't show anything abnormal06:37
xsachaok well obviously X crashed, that's why it takes you back to login screen06:37
xsachalook at bottom of Xorg.0.log06:38
inteliwasper... kdesu fails for me...06:38
xsachado you have anything like beryl to run on startup?06:38
momalok in bottom of xorg.0.log file there is a bit say error opening security policy and then under that about fonts and says removing from list... umm i have beryl but i manaully start it up after kde has finsihed loging in06:39
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xsachafonts you can ignore, beryl doesnt matter then.. what's this security policy?06:40
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momalerror opening security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy | then there is a few xkb_ lines with some includes inside { and }06:41
inteliwasphow do i fix kdesu, it wont let me use anything06:41
momalim using edgy as well if that can help you :p06:41
JucatoKiongku:  looks like you're not the only one ^^^^06:41
xsachano fatal server error in there momal?06:42
xsachahmm what's crashing it, i dunno06:42
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inteliwaspdoes anyone know how to set the time in a console?06:44
momalafter i click the login button screen goes straight black then a lighter black then cursor comes up and then kde login screen... but usually before if the X server crashed the nvidia logo would come back up but it doens't seem to06:44
Jucatointeliwasp: timestamp too far intot he future?06:44
inteliwaspJucato:  yep and kdesu won't let me in to reset the time06:45
Jucatointeliwasp: I rebooted to solve that... I don't know if it works 100% of the time06:45
xsachamomal: check xorg.conf, what driver is it using?06:46
xsachamaybe something in xorg.conf changed06:46
inteliwaspJucato:  therin lies the problem... i reboot countless time tring to fix a failed attemt at upgrading and the time is FUBARed06:46
Kiongkuhaha same here06:46
Kiongkusudo works though06:46
xsachainteliwasp: is time wrong in BIOS?06:47
inteliwaspi wonder if i shuld set it back the corect amount in bios06:47
jayHello!  Is there a way of telling Kubuntu to never upgrade a certain package? (in my case, I do not want WINE upgraded since the upgrade breaks the application I want to use)06:47
xsachaupgrades have to be done manually?06:47
Jucatono. locking a specific package to a specific version I guess06:48
Jucatoit can be done with synaptic, but not with adept06:48
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momalHMMMMM... what does /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession meant to have in it ?06:48
momalbecuase mine is blank06:48
inteliwaspok now i am perplexed... the bios time is local but the timestamp says 3 hours ahead......06:49
Kiongkuinteliwasp: yah it is06:49
jayJucato... IC.  That's disappointing.  Kind of makes adept notifier useless to me then. :(06:49
momalhow do i get the normal contents of /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession back ?06:49
xsachamomal: it's a long script, want me to paste it?06:49
inteliwaspand kdesu is FUBAR on me06:49
momalumm can you upload to a website as a plain text file so i can wget it :)06:49
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noiesmohey all looking for an application to rescue data from floppy06:51
inteliwaspok it's oficcial, this weekend is now a living hell for me06:51
xsachamomal: bur.st/~s/Xsession06:51
inteliwaspXorg broke AGAIN!06:51
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Kiongkuwhere the heck is kdesu found.. in whcih package.. i gonna nuke it06:51
K`zanNight folks06:51
intelikeynoiesmo what kind of data and what is the reason you need a tool ?06:51
JucatoKiongku: kdelibs4c2a I think06:52
xsachagot it momal? :)06:52
noiesmointelikey, the data's images for a teacher at the school I work for06:52
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intelikeyKiongku just put your user in the adm group06:52
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Kiongkuintelikey: crazy i'm not running as root all the time06:52
intelikeynoiesmo try fsck /dev/fd0 first if that wont do check back.06:53
intelikeyKiongku ?06:53
intelikey!sudo | Kiongku06:53
ubotuKiongku: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:53
Kiongkui know06:54
noiesmointelikey, yeah ok will try tomorrow06:54
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Kiongkui currently using sudo06:54
Kiongkubut kde wants kdesu and that freaking annoys me since its not working06:54
justin_is there a linux program thats comparable to windows media player (such as being able to rip, burn, and play?)06:54
intelikeyKiongku if sudo is working what is the issue with dkesu ?06:54
xsachaKiongku: administator mode doesnt work either? i guess cause it uses kdesu?06:54
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Jucatojustin_: rip & burn = k3b, play = amarok (music) or kaffeine (music and video)06:55
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo06:55
momalthanks for that :)06:55
Kiongkuintelikey: kdesu does not open the program06:55
xsachadoes it log on momal? :P06:55
momalyup :D.. in konversation now ^^06:55
Kiongkui put password but in command it returns back to $ without anything06:55
intelikeyKiongku in a konsole type " kdesu echo yes  "06:55
intelikeytell us any errors06:55
Kiongkuno errors. plain back to $06:55
justin_thanks Jucato06:56
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xsachaKiongku: /usr/bin/kdesu echo yes?06:56
Kiongkusee for urself06:56
xsachaKiongku!!! Thats a big lot of errors you didnt tell us about06:57
duckdownHow can I go about creating an archive (like a tar) with a password on it, for use on another system?06:57
Kiongkuduh :P sorry06:57
Kiongkubut still06:57
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xsachait's meant to have no errors06:57
inteliwaspwell i have internet access but lost xorg... i need sleep and some thermite to burn the box with...06:57
Kiongkuhmm xorg?06:57
Jucatoxsacha: those errors are nothing06:57
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xsachamine has no errors..06:58
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Jucatoxsacha: just saying that wacom can't be detected06:58
ubotuIf you are getting errors similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.006:58
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Random_Transitcan anyone help me, i just tried to upgrade to edgy using the repos....and now ubuntu won't start06:58
intelikeyKiongku that's a socket failure  if i'm not mistaken   not kdesu's fault more like ssh-agent or kio06:58
Kiongkuso.. any solution?06:58
Lam_i fixed it.  anti-aliasing was on Medium.  i switched it to Full, and the bold faced font renderings returned to normal06:58
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xsachait's device 166 Jucato, not 168.. 166 is a showstopper.. ?06:59
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intelikeyKiongku not famieluar with is.  have you plugged the error into google ?    google "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"06:59
Kiongkusure googling now06:59
Jucatoxsacha: AFAIK, the device number varies from system to system06:59
xsachaeveryone else with 166 has showstopper07:00
flaccidEmess: status of your upgrade?07:00
xsachaon google07:00
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intelikeywith the quotes should help07:00
Jucatoreally? hm...07:00
Vipercatcan anyone offer me some install advice for edgy07:00
intelikeyVipercat mmm don't  ?07:01
Vipercati am trying to install it onto a acer veriton350007:01
flaccidVipercat: install it ?07:01
flaccidyou just install it..07:01
Emessflaccid:  still stuck on acpid07:01
xsachahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1069596 "fixed by deleted the /root/config directory." hmm07:01
intelikeythere you have it.  advised to both install it and not to.07:01
Random_Transitspeaking of installing edgy...i'm having some troubles...07:02
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Vipercatthe install starts up and shows the kubuntu logo and scrolling bar then all goes black and thats it07:02
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Kiongkubut wher ethe hell is config in kubuntu07:02
intelikeyxsacha ah ha.  just like i MENTIONED so many times kdm writing to /root is *BAD!*  but they wont listen.07:02
aibthe ubuntuguide wiki has a link to `http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg', which is dead. is there an alternate?07:02
flaccidEmess: whats the current output?07:02
Kiongkuintelikey: any idea about that /root/config directory :S?07:03
flaccidEmess: did you try installing the packages from kubuntu-desktop manually?07:03
Alter-EgoRandom_Transit: what kind of troubels07:03
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flaccidEmess: please also show the command you ran in the pastebin otherwise we don't know what you did07:03
intelikeyKiongku yeah.  you can kill X and as root do a rm -r /root  and restart X07:04
Random_TransitAlter-Ego, ubu won't boot07:04
Emessapt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:04
Emessacpid is a dependency for it07:04
flaccidEmess: i assume you didn't try installing the packages separately then07:04
Alter-EgoRandom_Transit: need more information.  what did you do, what happens at boot time, etc.07:04
Random_TransitAlter-Ego, i upgraded by changing my sources.list to point to the edgy repos07:04
Vipercathow long should kubuntu edgy take to install approx07:04
Kiongkuintelikey: kill X.. what was the code to kil and restart again forgot07:05
Alter-Egoand then07:05
Emessflaccid: no, i wasnt sure how to07:05
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KooL4444Vipercat, just took me about 30 min to install from cd07:05
intelikeyKiongku sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop      and start07:05
JucatoKiongku: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace07:05
Jucatoor that07:05
flaccidEmess: i'll pastebin for you07:05
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Shirakawasunaif I get kubuntu 6.10 LTS does that mean I'm stuck with a long-term thing or is that just a way of saying 'this is a fancy release that will be supported for a long time, do with it what you like'?07:05
xsachaoh ok that 166 isnt a showstopper, just it's the only error that appears for people having troubles :lol:07:06
ketsugi6.10 is LTS? I thought only 6.06 was LTS07:06
Alter-EgoRandom_Transit: and then ?07:06
Vipercatim starting with an unpartitioned disk .. do i need to do anything to it first ?07:06
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Random_TransitAlter-Ego, and then, when all was said and done, i rebooted...and one of the things ubu said on startup was something about not being able to load a driver somewhere07:06
Shirakawasunaketsugi: perhaps you're right, lemme go see again07:06
intelikeyJucato not jsut reset it. that will cause problems cause it's (kdm is) busy writing to /root07:06
Shirakawasunaketsugi: ah, so it is, whoops :)07:06
Alter-Egoso you are working from another pc ?07:06
Shirakawasunan/m on the LTS ;)07:06
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Jucatointelikey: aah07:06
flaccidEmess:  can i pm you?07:06
StarScreamhi guys, having a little issue with edgy. I'm running kubuntu / fresh install of edgy on a g3 800 mhz ibook. I've had dapper and warty running fine on it and i know 3.5.5 is much less cpu / memory hungry than previous kde releases07:06
Alter-EgoRandom_Transit: so you are working from another pc ?07:06
StarScreambut its running really slowly07:07
Emessflaccid: yes07:07
Random_Transitno, from another distro07:07
ketsugianyway to answer your question Shirakawasuna07:07
ketsugiit's the latter07:07
StarScreammainly on HDD access07:07
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ketsugimost Ubuntu releases have like a 1yr support life time or 3yr or something, I forget07:07
Alter-EgoRandom_Transit: so grub is working07:07
StarScreami've tried  running hdparm with various different options07:07
ketsugithe LTS releases have a much longer support lifetime07:07
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StarScreamand it isn't any faster / slower than dapper07:07
Random_TransitGRUB is running off of the other distro07:07
StarScreamreally only have issues in X11/kde07:07
Jucatoketsugi: regular = 18 months. LTS = 3 years (desktop) or 5 years (server)07:07
Alter-EgoRandom_Transit: will *buntu load at all, or does it stop and give you the error about the driver07:08
ketsugiyeah, what he said07:08
xsachaKiongku: is kdesud running?07:08
Random_TransitAlter-Ego, it TRIES to boot...looks as if it is...and then, just when you think GDM is going to start up...it shuts itself down and reboots07:08
Jucatohm... GDM?07:09
Alter-EgoRandom_Transit: you have your /home directory on a seperate partition ?07:10
StarScreamis there any information i can give you guys to make it eaiser to assist. i'm not entirely sure where to go from here.07:10
intelikeyyou did something fnacey in a konsole to restart it ?   and when it tries to restore the session it restores the reboot command ?     (i have seen that.)07:10
Random_TransitAlter-Ego...yes, thankfully07:11
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Alter-EgoRandom_Transit: don't know.07:12
Alter-Egoif it were me, i would install fresh07:13
Lam_is there a way to bind my keyboard's suspend key to start the screensaver?07:13
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Alter-Egoi have three machines, the laptop krashed, the desktop upgraded with trouble and a fresh install is fine, cept i have to reset my repositories, etc.07:14
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Alter-Egoi always have a seperate /home directory and a seperate /data directory (mysql db, html docs, etc.)07:14
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intelikeyRandom_Transit you havent been playing with 'update-rc.d'  or the gui equlivent have you ?07:14
Kiongkuintelikey: duh no result07:15
Kiongkutell me is there a way to completely reinstall kde back to default?07:15
xsachaKiongku: is kdesud running?07:15
Lam_what's the terminal command to invoke the screensaver?07:15
xsachait needs to be running07:15
Random_Transitintelikey, nope07:15
Kiongkuoh that one07:15
Kiongkuyeah kdesud is running07:15
intelikeyJucato eeek why you say something when i do things like that ^  "equlivent"   ;/07:16
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intelikeynm   :)07:17
JucatoI remember my promise07:17
Jucato(actually I was busy reading something else lol!)07:17
jayYES!!!   You CAN lock a specific version with kubuntu!  Thank you for providing me with the proper search term... Google took care of the rest. :)07:17
Random_Transiti have a saved backup of my sources.list where everything points to dapper....is there anyway i could just swap that version out and just downgrade??07:17
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:18
KooL4444how do i install gedit on kubuntu?07:18
xsachaew why you want gedit?07:18
Random_Transitnano > gedit07:18
Lam_i prefer kate07:18
KooL4444every website i see uses gedit07:18
unix_infidelKooL4444: apt-get install gedit.07:18
xsachagedit is just an editor07:18
xsachaany editor will work07:19
Lam_KooL4444: try kate instead of gedit as a substitute07:19
Kiongkudarn it07:19
Jucatogedit isn't on KDE/Kubuntu07:19
flaccidgedit sux07:19
unix_infidelKooL4444: however, it is better to use a more advanced text editor, like vim, emacs, or kate.07:19
flaccidsorry to say07:19
Kiongkuafter one day i already have to reinstall07:19
intelikeyRandom_Transit sorry apt doesn't play that game.   it's version++ only any version-- you have to specify exactly what you want.07:19
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Lam_flaccid: i agree, gedit is rather lacking, especially when compared to kate07:19
KooL4444so how do i use kate when i type the gedit command?07:19
JucatoKooL4444: you just substitute gedit for the text editor that you have installed07:19
xsachaKooL4444: i suggest replacing anywhere you see with 'gedit' with 'kate'07:19
KooL4444oh ok07:19
JucatoKooL4444: usually something like "kdesu kate"07:19
unix_infidelKooL4444: i still dont get what you mean when you say most websites i see use gedit?07:20
KooL4444whats kdesu?07:20
JucatoKiongku: and please, don't use sudo (or gksudo) when using with kate07:20
Jucato!kdesu | KooL444407:20
ubotuKooL4444: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo07:20
Lam_almost all help sites are designed for ubuntu, therefore gedit as its editor07:20
xsachahowto websites he means, that edit files07:20
intelikey!sudo | KooL444407:20
ubotuKooL4444: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:20
KooL4444on all the websites i visit about ubuntu it alsways uses the gedit command07:20
KiongkuJucato: i'm going back for a revamp07:20
xsachathat's ubuntu that uses gnome, this is kubuntu that uses kde07:20
Kiongkuseems more trouble to go find the specific arror07:21
JucatoKooL4444: it's because Ubuntu uses GNOME, and gedit is a GNOME app07:21
JucatoKiongku: :(07:21
xsachaubuntu comes with gedit, kubuntu comes with kate as the sort of equivalent gui text editor07:21
intelikeyKooL4444 gnome has gedit  kde has kate/kwrite/kedit   and both have nano07:21
Lam_equivalent is such a strong word in that context07:21
KooL4444oh ic now, thats the big difference huh?07:21
ketsugigedit? kate?07:21
Jucato(and vim)07:21
ketsugiI just vi :)07:21
JucatoKooL4444: yes07:21
ketsugivim, technically :)07:21
KooL4444gnome and kde07:21
JucatoKooL4444: Ubuntu = GNOME, uses gedit, and gksudo. Kubuntu = KDE, uses kate, and kdesu07:22
KooL4444whats so different in gnome from kde?07:22
xsachaby the way, no kedit with default packages on kubuntu?07:22
Jucatoxsacha: nope07:22
ketsugiKooL4444: Generally, Gnome is simpler, requires a bit less configuration, but isn't as customisable07:22
KooL4444oh ok07:22
Lam_is there a way to start my screensaver by binding it to a keyboard key?07:22
ketsugithat's my impression, anyway07:22
intelikeyxsacha no but the 'kde' meta-package installes kedit07:22
ketsugiI'm sure others will disagree07:22
Jucatoclassic definition, but not really 100% accurate :)07:22
aseigo... lacks many features and most integration type features07:23
Jucatointelikey: and a whole load of other stuff :)07:23
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KooL4444so "kdesu kate blah blah blah" is that how i edit files?07:23
Lam_found it! nvm07:23
intelikeyJucato but not as much as kubuntu-desktop does  :)07:23
Jucatoah yes, GNOME isn't as integrated as KDE is :)07:23
Random_Transitokay....this is interesting...i'm chrooted into ubu's environment....and i decided it might be good measure to try doing a dpkg --configure -a to see if there are some unconfiged packages...turns out there are...07:23
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Jucatointelikey: err... you sure about that? :P07:23
Random_Transiteven more interesting is this....07:23
xsachaKooL4444: yes07:23
unix_infidelRandom_Transit: you're tryign to repair a edgy upgrade?07:23
Jucatointelikey: care to check again?07:24
Random_Transitunix_infidel, yes07:24
KooL4444gonna try install beryl again, wish me luck07:24
Random_TransitInstalling new version of config file /etc/init.d/makedev ...07:24
Random_Transit/sbin/MAKEDEV: warning: can't read /proc/devices07:24
Random_Transit/sbin/MAKEDEV: warning: can't read /proc/devices07:24
Random_Transit/sbin/MAKEDEV: warning: can't read /proc/devices07:24
Random_Transit/sbin/MAKEDEV: warning: can't read /proc/devices07:24
Jucatointelikey: look at it's depends07:24
unix_infidel!pastebin | Random_Transit07:24
ubotuRandom_Transit: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:24
Jucato!pastebin | Random_Transit07:24
intelikeyJucato have.  i am refering to mbites not file count tho07:24
jayKool4444:  Maybe its just my personal preference, but I NEVER use anything but nano to edit system files.07:24
Jucatointelikey: I said loads of stuff, not larger sizes :)07:24
unix_infidelRandom_Transit: from what i've seen, its better to do a clean install than an upgrade.07:25
xsachajay: just personal preference :P i use vim07:25
Jucatomeaning, loads of stuff you probably won't need :)07:25
jayAlthough, maybe I'm just "old school" :  NEVER use gui as root.07:25
Random_Transitsweet muthafrakker....there's actually a lot of unconfigged packages here.....07:25
unix_infidelRandom_Transit: its possible, just not well documented enough for ME to even recommend it.07:25
Random_Transitunix_infidel, duly noted07:25
unix_infidelor do it on my own production boxes.07:25
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KooL4444is fglrx installed on Edgy?07:26
Kiongkudarn it now automount refuses to work07:26
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JucatoKooL4444: no07:26
Random_Transiti guess my first mistake was even attempting to do the upgrade from within ubu07:26
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unix_infidelRandom_Transit: just backup your home directory and the needed rc files from / and do a clean install.07:27
unix_infidelshouldnt take more than an hour, tops.07:27
Random_Transitwell, we'll see how this works out07:27
flaccidinstalls are quick. upgrades are very long.07:27
Alter-Egoflaccid: i agree07:27
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Alter-Egoi did an install while using the live cd on the same machine, that was nice07:28
Jucatointelikey: sorry, never got DCC to work here...07:28
Random_Transitmy fault for jumping into edgy only a couple days after launch07:28
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redtricycleI looked at the kubuntu change list07:28
redtricycleI'd do it if I still had my laptop though..07:28
jayflaccid: you aren't KIDDING!  upgraded from Dapper to Edgy.... took HOURS.07:28
Jucatounix_infidel: there will be more bleeding edge stuff on edgy+1 though...07:28
xsachaunix_infidel clean install to feisty fawn or upgrade?07:28
redtricycleim having trouble getting cups working over network07:28
Lam_what's the best way to access a folder under root?  i had a folder set in gnome to not grant access unless you were root07:28
unix_infidelJucato: upgrading doesnt mean dist-upgrade...it just means upgrading.07:28
redtricyclelooked at a couple of guides07:28
KooL4444how do i install fglrx?07:28
Random_Transitwhen does edgy+1 drop???07:28
redtricycleand it's not helping..07:28
Jucatounix_infidel: ah :)07:28
Jucato!ati > KooL444407:29
redtricycleIn six more months, Random_Transit?07:29
intelikeythe list is more than 10x as long for the deps on kubuntu-desktop than for kde Jucato07:29
unix_infidelyea, about 607:29
xsachaRandom_Transit: edgy was released ~3 days ago.. releases are every 6 months, so feisty is out in 6 months07:29
JucatoLam_: command line, or launch Konqueror as root ("kdesu konqueror")07:29
Lam_Jucato: ok thanks07:29
Jucatointelikey: oh? :)07:29
Jucatointelikey: then I seat corrected :)07:29
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seishinbyouHeh, I installed Xubuntu 6.10 for fun, and it actually took more disk space when it was finally installed than Kubuntu 6.10...odd07:30
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Kiongkudoes kdm do anythign special apart login?07:30
Jucatoseishinbyou: that shouldn't be the case afaik.. weird...07:30
JucatoKiongku: logout :)07:30
Kiongkuno apart that07:31
intelikeywrites in your /root dir07:31
seishinbyouJucato: I know, but that was the case when it finished.  Something like 1.87 gigs to 1.9407:31
Jucatomanage sessions I guess07:31
Kiongkui messed up with kdm but cant think thats the only reason why kdesu is having hiccups07:31
xsachathe big logout menu only appears in KDM, otherwise you just get an end session i think07:31
seishinbyouDoesn't matter; Kubuntu is my desktop and I have vmwared machines for work and fun07:31
Kiongkufor console login07:32
seishinbyouWindows 3.11 forever07:32
DrZootwell adept has given me the shits for the last time, bonvoyage all, im back to gentoo07:32
Kiongkumy login name and password does not work07:32
intelikeyreplace kdm with xdm and see what happens.07:32
JucatoDrZoot: have you tried something else? like Synaptic or apt-get?07:32
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JucatoAdept isn't really the best thing in the world right now07:32
Kiongkunever mind it.. cleaning and coming abck07:32
Kiongkuthen access each error07:32
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DrZootJucato: yeah ive tried apt-get (i migrated from debian so ive used synaptic a fair bit) but the whole thing just rubs me the wrong way07:33
intelikeyDrZoot you could "emerge" everything in gentoo's distro07:34
JucatoDrZoot: ah I see. any particular problems?07:34
jayDrZoot:  I also used Gentoo for years... it certainly took getting used to when I switched to Kubuntu07:34
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xsachaCRUX ftw07:35
Random_TransitDrZoot, i use both ubu and gentoo (actually i'm using gentoo right now to repair my broken edgy install)07:35
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DrZootJucato: Well tbh, its a bit slow. Apart from that and my growing dislike for adept, Im beginning to remeber all the reasons why I liked gentoo somuch07:35
Kiongkuintelikey: know about e17?07:35
Random_TransitDrZoot, here here...07:35
intelikeyKiongku no.07:36
JucatoDrZoot: I don't like Adept that much either. about the slowness, have you tried using other mirrors?07:36
seishinbyouWell, the Gentoo cow did look more like a cow than the debian/ubuntu "cow" in apt-get07:36
Jucatoseishinbyou: agreed :)07:36
intelikeycow ?07:36
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=== Random_Transit moooooooos.
seishinbyouthat cow07:36
Kiongkuprobably messed up from there07:37
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DrZootJucato: I mean system slowness, its not exactly super quick. With gentoo if something doesnt run as fast as I want I know there are a bundle of steps I can take to make it run quicker, where as ubu with its precompiled packages is a bit more difficult07:37
KiongkuBRB... hope i can arrange everything back to norm07:37
JucatoDrZoot: well, that's the trade off you get for precompiled packages I guess07:37
momalwhats a godo quick program to convert .sub subtitles to .srt ones07:37
Edge888Hi guys, what is the repository of PLF?07:38
ubotuPLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas07:38
Lam_that's hot07:38
DrZootJucato: yeah, Im not really complaining, its just not a trade off that I can live with, personal preference more than anything07:38
DrZootJucato: cant*07:38
JucatoDrZoot: you can always compile everything I guess. Ubuntu does provide the deb-src07:39
jayDrZoot: Check out http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html ... it might help you out in that department. :)07:39
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Edge888thanks a lot :D07:39
intelikeyJucato make guntoo out of ubuntu.....  <blinks??07:39
Jucatointelikey: well, I'm *almost* doing it, by installing bits and pieces of stuff only (no kubuntu-desktop for me)07:40
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DrZootJucato: yeah I had a look at compiling from source with apt-src and friends when I was running debian sid but its just not worth the effort, gentoo handles it all much better.07:40
seishinbyougubuntu ahoy07:40
intelikeyno no i'm talking about the "you can always compile everything I guess."   ^   O.o07:41
JucatoDrZoot: yeah. Gentoo is really meant for that kind of stuff you want :)07:41
Jucatointelikey: "I guess"07:41
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seishinbyouHardest part with adoption of Linux in this office is that everyone *really really* likes the WinXP interface and can't imagine anything else.  It is a sad situation07:41
HomerI had win xp interface07:42
Jucatothey like it?07:42
intelikeywell i "guess" one could.....   it's like reinventing the linux wheel though.07:42
Homerit's ugly07:42
Homerand smells07:42
Jucatointelikey: or the kubuntu wheel :)07:42
seishinbyouMany are typical Japanese salarymen.  Of course they are brainwashed to love WinXP07:42
jayWow, seishinbyou.... WinXP is the reason I'm a Linux user... I hated it.07:42
Jucatoseishinbyou: haven't they gotten tired of the same look over and over and over and over and over again?07:42
Homeryeah the windows ui blows07:43
seishinbyoujay: no complaints here.  I despise it too, myself07:43
intelikeyjay....  brother, where you been ?07:43
Homerespecially that blue default theme07:43
seishinbyouJucato: Japanese salaryman lifestyle is all about doing the same thing over and over and over...07:43
seishinbyouWork harder, not smarter07:43
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KooL4444whats the command to check if fglrx is running?07:43
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seishinbyouWell, to be fair, the ones in this office aren't *that* bad.  KDDI and Hitachi were the worst07:44
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intelikeyKooL4444 pidof <any-command>07:44
jayNow.. if we can just get an SPSS client for Linux....07:44
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Jucatointelikey: fglrx is the ATI binary driver...07:44
intelikeyJucato it not have a process id ?07:45
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Jucatointelikey: afaik, no. that would be strange07:45
Jucatowell, nvidia doesn't07:45
momalwhats a good quick program to convert .sub subtitles to .srt ones07:45
intelikeyoh you mean driver/module07:46
Lam_is there a way to change the sort preference in kopete to ignore status and sort alphabetically?07:46
intelikeyhehhe ok.  no pids there.  lsmod  for kernel modules not sure outside the kernel....07:46
momalis it possible to have say english and japanese language pages installed and change between them like clicking a button ?07:47
kazaruhello any one know why my cursor disappears when xserver is restarted?07:47
intelikeymomal yep07:47
intelikeyi new you were going to ask that......07:47
Jucatointelikey: tell it to KooL4444. lsmod | grep something?07:48
jayKooL4444:  Try lsmod | grep fglrx07:48
intelikeyJucato is it inserted into the kernel or just used by x ?07:48
Jucatointelikey: err.. don't know. how do binary drivers work?07:49
intelikeyif it's not inserted into the kernel that wont show.07:49
JucatoKooL4444: have you restarted X after installing fglrx?07:49
jayJust a thought.. it worked for me ... except it was grep nvidia.07:49
intelikeyxorg should have a function and possably even a veriable set  that will tell you what driver it's using.07:49
KooL4444so i should look in there for fglrx?07:50
JucatoKooL4444: you can look in System Settings -> Monitor & Display -> Hardware tab to check what driver is being use07:50
intelikeys/.*/*d/   :)07:51
KooL4444nice, yeh its using fglrx, gonna try beryl now07:51
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intelikeypatch the roof....07:51
Jucatowe tried. the darn carpenter can't see where the leak is coming from..07:52
intelikeydpkg --patch roof roof.tgz07:52
Jucatoif it were only that easy07:52
intelikeythat's not even a working command  but the joke worked.07:53
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Jucatothis is weird.. hm... restarting Konvi "again"07:53
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sebastian22hi. I need some help. When i see youtube videos or flash in general they look very bad, not fluid at all07:54
intelikeyJucato why all the reconnects ?  issues with the client ?07:55
Jucatointelikey: sound notification acting a bit weird..07:55
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Jucatothis is what you get for kustomized installs :P07:55
sebastian22any help please07:56
intelikey !i07:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:56
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intelikeyjucato  !i == not I   @  sebastian22    but the stupid bot reacted to it....07:57
intelikeyi put a space before the !   but ubotus must have missed that....07:59
Jucatomaybe it ignores leading whitespaces07:59
intelikeyi guess.   seems to.    most likely does.      yep.    sure enough.08:00
sebastian22I heard something about giving more memory or something to flash?08:00
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:00
Jucato!flash sound08:00
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intelikeynothing specific on flash08:00
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maltaethironguys, is flash 9 out yet?  ive kinda not been paying attention lately08:01
intelikeysebastian22 that doesn't mean there is not a wiki on it.  that just means we have not info node refering to it...  try searching on the wiki's08:01
Jucato!flash 908:01
ubotuFlash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html08:01
maltaethironrock on08:01
seishinbyouwhat do you want to put rocks on?08:02
maltaethironoh, you know08:02
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intelikeynotice that is *BETA*08:02
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sebastian22I have flash 9 installed08:03
seishinbyouYeah, like the word "BETA" has ever stopped anyone here before08:03
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sebastian22the problem is that my videos look with cuts on it08:03
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intelikeyjust want you to know.  so when you have issues with it....08:03
=== Random_Transit is living proof of that, seishinbyou...and i'm regretting now....
maltaethironis gmail still labled as beta really?08:04
seishinbyouI don't mind so much because I only install/test on non-mission critical systems anyways08:04
Random_Transiti think they're just too damn lazy to change it08:04
Jucatook sound notifications gone again...08:04
intelikeyso are several things you wouldn't expect.08:04
seishinbyouWho cares if it sets itself on fire and kills 300 salarymen08:04
Jucatomust be arts...08:04
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intelikeyhehhe i just noticed that this box is a hybird ?buntu   the desktop is obviously nome but all the apps in the menus are k*  hehhe i must have set it up....08:06
Jucatoah there... it's back :)08:06
Jucatothis box, on the other hand, is pure :P08:07
Jucatohm... actually no... I think I got a few GNOME-ish stuff installed here, because of depends...08:07
intelikeythuro-bread ?  (:08:07
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intelikeyphonitic  yes.08:08
KooL4444ok just followed the directions to install beryl, and restrted my computer, now it get to the login screen, i login and it goes to a blank screen for 1sec then back to the login screen. did i miss somthin?08:08
JucatoI wasn't trying to correct you...08:08
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ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.08:09
intelikeyi know.08:09
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KooL4444no one else has had this problem?08:12
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seishinbyouWhen I had that problem, it was a problem with my xorg.conf file08:12
intelikeyKooL4444 !i08:12
seishinbyouspecifically, lines pertaining to glx08:12
JucatoKooL4444: you could probably try asking in #ubuntu-xgl, as this might be related to that08:12
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KooL4444yeh im trying, doesnt seem like there are as many ppl there08:13
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Jucatoconsidering timezones... I'm not surprised..08:14
seishinbyouSince I am morbidly lazy when it comes to this stuff, though, I always just keep a backup of a working xorg.conf and replace it whenever anything goes wrong08:14
KooL4444i know how i can get it to work back to normal, but i cant get beryl to work08:14
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seishinbyouI could c&p my xorg.conf file, though I don't know how much good that would do you08:15
KooL4444thats all i got so i would appreciate it08:16
KooL4444ill just compare08:16
seishinbyouOkay, how do I use this pastebin thing...08:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:16
seishinbyoujust a sec08:17
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Raminagrobisi've got a litte problem08:18
RaminagrobisOn my hard disk, there is only one tiny fat32 partition (20go) i can access to to from both linux and windows (08:19
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seishinbyouKooL4444: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29320/08:19
Raminagrobisi've got a free 60 go ntfs partition i'd like to reformat in fat32 to share it between both OS too but windows doesn't want to08:20
seishinbyouI have some really messed up hardware, though, so sorry for any confusion in advance08:20
Raminagrobisis 60 go too big for FAT32 ?08:20
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JucatoRaminagrobis: afaik, yes08:21
JucatoFAT32 has a limit of 32GB iirc08:21
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Kiongkuclena install08:21
KooL4444ty seichinbyou08:21
Kiongku*clean .. kdesu seems to be working now08:21
Raminagrobis32 gb!08:21
Raminagrobisit's tiny08:21
Kiongkui'm back..08:21
JucatoKiongku: welcome back to the edge08:21
Kiongkulol i hope i can cling to it.. last time i fell over the edge XD08:21
Jucatoover the hedge08:21
JucatoI mean edge08:22
Raminagrobisso how to you manage wshen you have a 450 Gb HD and you install linux??08:22
JucatoRaminagrobis: I'm not entirely sure of that 32GB limit08:22
Jucatobut that's what happened the last time I tried08:22
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seishinbyouThe same way when you have a 750GB drive, just install it08:23
Raminagrobisseems to,  windows accept to reformat my 20 go partition in fat 32 but not my 40 and my 6008:23
Raminagrobisyu make dozens of partitions?08:23
seishinbyouI don't use FAT3208:23
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RaminagrobisBut i want my partitions to be useable brom linux and windows08:24
JucatoRaminagrobis: I think there's a program, forgot the name, something like fs-driver, that allows you to read/write to ext3 partitions in XP08:24
Raminagrobisbut there is nothing better that fat32 that allow a 'native' share (r/wp) between xp and linux?08:25
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seishinbyouoops, Konversation went *poop*08:26
Jucatoit went krap?08:26
seishinbyouYeah, it krashed08:26
Jucatoah.. :(08:26
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KiongkuJucato: hey.. if u logout while konversation , etc is still open.. do u get signit?08:28
Kiongkuseems they do not close properly if logout immediately..08:28
intelikey"<Jucato> Raminagrobis: I think there's a program, forgot the name,"  there is also an extfsexplorer for that other os.08:28
Kiongkuintelikey: yo back on the edge..08:28
Jucatointelikey: does it allow write access?08:28
intelikeyi think so....08:29
Jucatointelikey: not sure. I don't like to set "Restore form previous session on"08:29
Raminagrobisok thanks08:29
intelikeyyou know i don't do windows08:29
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wedgeVi have a problem with konsole, sometimes it doesnt scroll with the application output08:29
Raminagrobistoo bad, microsoft could integrate sda3 since it's open code :-p08:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sad3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:29
JucatoI think he meant ext3 Kiongku08:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sda3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:30
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Kiongkuhey intelikey .. kdesu kate in konsole = freeze..08:30
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intelikeyKiongku nice.  how did you manage that ?08:31
Kiongkuno idea..08:31
DHGERaminagrobis: ext3 is not a solution if you use characters like Umlauts 08:31
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DHGEfat neither08:31
DHGEuse ntfs-3g08:31
Kiongkumay be kdesu sometimes hates me08:31
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intelikeyntfs-3g   ???   have link?08:32
Kiongkuto open adept.. sometimes need to open it twice or thrice for kdesu to appear -_-08:32
DHGEit is in universe08:32
ubotuntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171008:32
intelikeyKiongku   kdesu echo yes    if it barks yes back at you it's not kdesu.08:32
JucatoKiongku: happens to me sometimes as well08:32
KooL4444# Start GNOME08:33
KooL4444exec gnome-session08:33
DHGEnow I use VMWARE for windows and link via SMB-shares to common data08:33
Jucatointelikey: what if it moos yes back?08:33
KooL4444i thought kubuntu doesnt use gnome?08:33
Jucatoit doesn't08:33
KooL4444how come beryl uses that command?08:33
Kiongkuintelikey: i hate that dog.. but it does bark back..08:33
intelikeythen it's a sick puppy Jucato  :)08:33
Kiongkuintelikey: www.get-e.org thats the thing i was tinking with before my system run amocks XD08:34
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keyohey how do i enable root login08:34
Kiongkuput it was not supposed to since i put it separately08:34
ketsugiKooL4444: If you want to use KDE use `exec startkde` instead08:34
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ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:35
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Jucatokeyo: ^^^^^08:35
keyosudo did not work08:35
Jucatokeyo: did not work where?08:35
intelikeyKiongku i don't know anything about e##  so i'll have to pass,08:35
KooL4444ketsugi, that is a command in the .Xsession file to start Beryl08:35
KooL4444should i change it to what you said?08:36
ketsugiuse startkde if you want KDE08:36
ketsugignome-session if you want Gnome08:36
KooL4444gotcha kk08:36
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KooL4444ill try it08:36
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keyoi burnt the image for the new kubuntu cd and tryed to install it by running cdromupgrade08:36
Kiongkuintelikey: yah08:37
keyopermissions denied, i set the location with cd and then used sudo ./cdrom.... to run it08:37
JucatoKiongku: E17?08:37
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Jucatokeyo: tried to install it where?08:37
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wombat_heheh, I got it :D08:38
weedarDoes anyone else have trouble with FF 2.0 crashing randomly/all the time in Edgy?08:39
KiongkuJucato: yep.08:39
keyoits beta isnt it08:39
Jucatokeyo: what do you mean? Edgy has been released08:39
KooL4444ketsugi: so i put in there, "exec startkde"?08:39
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keyoi know that08:40
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JucatoKiongku: hm... you might want to wait for Hawkwind to wake up as he's the e17 expert08:40
keyonever mind08:40
KooL4444or  just "startkde" ??08:40
ketsugiexec startkde08:40
Jucatokeyo: anyway, that RootSudo link has instructions for what you wanted to do08:40
JucatoI'm just not sure if it's the solution to your problem08:40
keyoi'm just sick of passwords every 2min, i thought i had enabled it in the settings obviously not though08:41
Jucatoiirc it was 5 mins...08:42
nix-noobumm, question: is there any other difference between ubuntu and kubuntu besides the fact that it uses KDE insted of gnome?08:42
mulderI cannot type anything when I open a new root shell in the konsole. Anyone who can help me?08:42
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keyoyes, default applications08:42
Lam_is there a way to change the sort preference in kopete to ignore status and sort alphabetically?08:43
Jucatomulder: the terminal doesn't echo the password that you type08:43
mulder basically nothing can't be typed Jucato08:43
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nix-noobthe defult apps are part of KDE, eg konq insted of natulus?08:43
Jucatomulder: when you try to enter your password?08:43
DHGEnix-noob: the CDs come with *either* - lots of space needed - install the other later08:43
mulderI open the konsole, then choose a new root shell, and then it comes with password, From there I cannot type anything08:44
Jucatonix-noob: kate instead of gedit, konsole instead of gnome-terminal, etc. but the greatest difference really is that one uses KDE and the other uses GNOME08:44
arschkindhallo you nice people08:44
KooL4444fuck yeh IT WORKS!~!!!!08:44
KiongkuHawkwind: WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!08:44
mulderbut in the Shell Konsole I can :-(08:44
KooL4444TY SO MUCH08:44
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KooL4444finally some eye-candy!!!08:44
ketsugiHave fun, KooL4444 :)08:44
Jucatomulder: that's wha I'm telling you. you just type your password. you won't really see what you type08:44
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mulderit uses to work fine before, I could see. Ah ok let me try08:45
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mulderthis is the message now: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc         ess using it?08:47
Jucatomulder: what are you trying to do, btw?08:47
mulderjust trying to get updates and stuff08:47
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mulderwith the konsole, it works fine under adept, but not in the konsole.08:47
Jucatowell you don't need to go to a root shell. just "sudo apt-get update"08:47
harmentalhi everybody...is it safe to upgrade to edgy or a clean install must be made?08:47
Jucatomulder: is Adept still running?08:48
Jucatomulder: I'm guessing Adept crashed recently or was terminated. try entering this command "sudo dpkg --configure -a"08:48
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muldermessage: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process08:49
intelikeysomething is running.08:49
Kiongkuharmental: nto safe.. not safe at all08:50
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Jucatomulder: sudo killall adept08:50
mulderyou are right about adept, it didn't close properly08:50
Jucatomulder: after that, run the dpkg command again08:50
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mulderadept: no process killed08:51
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harmentalKiongku: so should I format my whole partition?08:51
Jucato!adept crash fix > mulder08:51
Jucatomulder: try the commands that was sent to you08:51
intelikeyharmental you should always format "whole partitions"   care to rephrase that ?08:51
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mulderOK jucato08:51
bioticproAnyone here use k9copy? I need help with it08:51
Kiongkuharmental: back up and the u might try update.. but be prepared to redo a clean install08:52
JucatoKiongku: believe it or not, some were entirely successful in upgrading...08:52
KiongkuJucato: yah but better warn than getting then here howling08:52
harmentalKiongku: sorry.....should I format my linux partition and install it from scratch then?08:52
Kiongkuharmental: a clean install 99.9 % guaranteed success and no headaches. ur choice.. its the best solution if u have nothing important to keep08:53
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harmentalKiongku: ok thx08:53
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mulderaaaah it asked me if I wanted to kill process 4960 F adept manager!08:53
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Jucatomulder: ah sorry, you're on edgy?08:54
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Jucatomulder: sudo killall adept_manager08:54
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Jucatomulder: then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"08:54
Jucatoor have you done that already?08:54
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Jucatomulder: ok then, you're free to sudo apt-get update (if that's what you were trying to do)08:55
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mulderok i try08:57
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mulderit works...Thanks Jucato. Why happened exactly there so I know?08:58
intelikeyand sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:59
Jucatointelikey: already on edgy :P08:59
intelikeyso    to fetch any updates.08:59
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mulderI love it :-) works like a charm, apart from my audigy 2zs, logitech webcam and canon printer08:59
Jucatomulder: Adept didn't finish what it was doing when it shutdown, therefore locking the package database08:59
intelikeyor do you not do bugfixes and security updates ?08:59
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flaccidwith scully.........09:00
flaccidbbs soon after sesh09:00
mulderAhhhh scully!09:00
seishinbyouLogitech webcams...I could never get them working under Ubuntu, either09:00
mulderah :-(09:00
mulderaudigy 2zs?09:00
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seishinbyouI don't know about that.  The Canon printers I had luck with, but I don't remember what I did anymore09:01
Kiongkuintelikey: whats teh command code to symlink all files in /usr/bin to /opt/e17/bin ?09:01
intelikeyls -s /usr/bin  /opt/e17/bin09:01
mulderMy printer is an MP130 Canon09:02
intelikeyln -s /usr/bin  /opt/e17/bin09:02
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seishinbyouAh, I'm still using the old PM760 from when I worked there09:02
mulderfor me the commande Intel?09:02
intelikeyfor Kiongku09:02
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mulderah sorry09:02
Kiongkuintelikey: bcoz e17 has root as /opt/e17/bin... if i do that i can run the progs in /usr/bin without prob?09:03
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intelikeybeets me.   i'd have thought you needed to go the other way.   ln -s /opt/e17/bin  /usr/bin/e17          or the like.....09:04
momalhmm how can i enable a mount to a harddrive writeable by all users/groups?09:05
intelikeybut apps can do anything with $PATH that the writer codes in....09:05
momalfor some reason mine just suddenly stopped allowing a non root user to write to them >_<09:05
mulderanybody knows how to have my audigy 2zs recognised? I only have the intel onboard at the moment. Do I have to get some drivers or something else?09:05
intelikeymomal what fs ?09:05
mulderThis I have been trying for days, but with no success.09:06
momalyay thanks ^_-09:06
momalwhat about for reading from ntfs? seems i can't do that either lol09:07
intelikeymomal man fstab     hit /   and type in   umask [enter] 09:07
intelikeyand read09:07
momaloh yea i got the umask bit in... ^_-09:07
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intelikeyyeah and if you do what i said... (though it's not likely)  you will learn that   the reason you need umask is because to the missing information on the fs and that it applies to several fs's09:09
intelikeynamely those that M$ uses....09:09
momallol i dont' seem to have that info in man fstab lol. i just had to set the umask in the advanced bit under the disk manager... but i forgot what it was i needed :p... so yea that helped out ^^09:09
intelikeytry man mount then    one is a link to the other here...09:10
martin_Guys how do you manually save a KDE session??  I'm running Beryl which doesn't seem to want to let me logout at the moment.09:10
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martin_never mind - googled it...09:14
nachthi somebody know why the it.archive.ubuntu.com is offline?09:15
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momalwhats the command to set the system to use a certain parttion for swap?09:15
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Teejay__question even after installing the plugins to play the restricted media on kubuntu 6.10, do you still have a problem playing mp3's on amarok?09:16
jorikmomal: swapon /dev/XXX (or edit /etc/fstab)09:17
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libxine-* - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:17
Kiongkuhmm does not work :p09:17
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momalwhat do i use for the mountpoint in fstab?09:18
momalfor swap that is09:18
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KooL4444where do i add a startup program in kubuntu?09:19
KooL4444does that already exist? or am  i making this file?09:20
Jucatoit's a folder09:20
Jucatoit exists already09:20
momaljust put in links/programs/shell scripts in that folder and give it +x permissions and should start up fine :)09:21
intelikeyKiongku the bot escapes wild cards09:21
jorikmomal: mount the device as (-t) a swap area, without (none) a mount point eg: in fstab my line looks like: /dev/sda6       none            swap    sw              0       009:21
JucatoKooL4444: or probably something easier... set you session to "Restore from previous session" (which is already on by default), and leave the programs running when you log out09:21
KooL4444how would i add the command "beryl-manager" in startup?09:21
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Jucatoah that's a different case then...09:22
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momalwell you could just create new shell script to run it but that could be a little nasty :p09:23
KooL4444add "beryl-manager" in startup programs (System -> Preferences -> Sessions).09:23
KooL4444is what it says on the website09:23
momaljorik: thanks09:23
KooL4444i dont understand that09:23
KooL4444i think thats for ubuntu09:24
muldercrap kaffeine doesn't display videos at all, only but the sound.09:24
intelikeyi don't think you need any referance to the swap partition in fstab   one of   mountall.sh mountdevsubfs mountvirtfs  scripts  seem to search for swap partitions.09:24
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intelikeywarpers nasty ?     momal09:25
KooL4444i dont even know what a shell script is09:26
momalnar i mean nasty as in beryl manager its self.. because sometimes when it starts up it can die so :p...09:26
momalbut if you want to do it09:26
momalcreate a new file in there and put in09:26
KooL4444nah, theres gotta be a reasonable solution09:26
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mulderAnybody has Kaffeine working properly, or installed VLC who could help me please?09:27
momalthen save as beryl.sh and | sudo chmod +x beryl.sh09:27
KooL4444thats the shell script method?09:27
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momalsave it in /home/username/.kde/Autostart/09:27
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KooL4444k ill try it09:27
intelikeyKooL4444    edit   ~/.xsession    and add   beryl-manager09:28
momalor you could do that :p09:28
KooL4444oh ok, that sounds easier09:28
KooL4444just add that at the end? no exec command or anything?09:28
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intelikeyput it before the last itom if the file exists...09:29
intelikeyif it needs to be flushed to the background so that something else will start   add  &09:30
intelikeyberyl-manager &09:30
KooL4444so do i put it before or after "exec startkde"?09:30
intelikeybefore  and add &09:30
KooL4444ok ty09:30
intelikeywait.   maybe i need more info09:30
intelikeywhat exactly does  beryl-manager  do ?09:31
KooL4444starts beryl i think09:31
KooL4444thats the command i used to start it09:31
Jucatointelikey: manages beryl09:31
pielgrzymhello people - somebody please try to reproduce the bug (it's described in comment how to reproduce it) - it's a really annoying critical one: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/6900709:31
intelikeythen yeah i'd say before kde09:31
KooL4444with the &09:31
KooL4444k ill try it09:32
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Jucatopielgrzym: sorry, I can't reproduce that. I leave my PC on for hours, but no errors.09:32
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intelikeyJucato what version is that on ^ ?09:33
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pielgrzymJucato: I see09:33
Jucatopielgrzym: Edgy right?09:33
pielgrzymJucato: tried leaving it just after login?09:33
pielgrzymJucato: right :(09:34
Jucatopielgrzym: yes I have. nothing09:34
Jucatopower manager settings maybe?09:34
intelikeyk i don't have the salamander...09:34
Jucatoor something...09:34
Jucatointelikey: it's a newt, actually09:34
pielgrzymJucato: this is a really good idea! I'll check that09:34
Admiral_Chicagopielgrzym: neither can i09:34
Jucatoey hi Admiral_Chicago09:34
intelikeywell !09:34
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Admiral_Chicagoerr Jucato how is it going?09:35
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Jucatodoing fine :)09:35
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Admiral_Chicagoi'm working on Beowulf. the epic not the program09:35
Admiral_Chicagoit's so boring09:35
pielgrzymJucato: where is the power management located in edgy settings? can't find it?09:35
Jucatopielgrzym: although I might not be the right person to try to confirm... I run on a very customized system....09:35
Admiral_Chicagopielgrzym: it's called Guidance09:35
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: I don't know a Beowolf program...09:35
Admiral_Chicagodid you check system settings? maybe dvanced09:35
Jucatopielgrzym: in System Settings, Advanced probably09:36
Admiral_ChicagoJucato:  it's a clustering program09:36
mulderChristophe Lambert played in a Beowulf movie a few years ago...now that was boring!09:36
intelikeyapt-cache search cluster09:36
Jucatochristopher lambert as raiden in Mortal Kombat. *that* was boring09:36
mulderworse than Solaris!09:36
overlimithow can I upgrade my kubuntu to 6.10?09:36
overlimitfrom 6.0609:36
Jucato!upgrade | overlimit09:36
ubotuoverlimit: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)09:36
mulderWatch Charlemagne and see :-)09:37
mulderJucato I will need your science again please. Can you help?09:37
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Jucatomulder: if I could, I would09:37
Jucatobut there are other who could also help :)09:38
mulder:-) thank you kind sir.09:38
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mulderI have a few things actually.09:38
mulderI can't have the video in kaffeine, only the sound!!09:38
mulderso I am trying to download VLC instead.09:38
Admiral_Chicagomulder: what driver are you using09:38
Jucatomulder: what are you trying to play?09:38
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mulderyesterday it was an avi file09:39
Admiral_Chicagomy buddy couldn't get videos to play in Edgy09:39
Admiral_Chicagoclean install too09:39
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: same here09:39
ketsugiclean install is the problem09:39
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mulderis VLC better than K?09:39
ketsugiYou need to install the non-free codecs09:39
mulderah..how can I do that?09:39
Jucatomulder: have you installed libxine-extracodecs?09:39
muldernot sure09:39
Jucato!libxine-extracodecs > mulder09:39
mulderin the konsole?09:40
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Jucatoerr.. use that link ketsugi gave09:40
mulderah ok09:40
Jucatomulder: you might also need this one09:40
ketsugiEither in the Konsole or in Adept09:40
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ketsugidoesn't matter09:40
Jucato!multiverse > mulder09:40
edge888hi! I just upgraded my Kubuntu to Edgy Eft, however, my frostwire doesnt connect to the internet, its just say "Starting Connection"... any workaround? :) tnx09:40
Admiral_Chicagoketsugi: no he knows that, X would go crazy when he was playing things09:40
Jucatomulder: you need to enable multiverse. sent you the link09:40
mulderok I am going to try09:41
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Admiral_Chicagoi really like Moodle, it's pretty powerful but it doesn't do RSS09:41
Jucatoum... anyone here encountered any problems with building the search index in KDE Help Center, even after installing htdig and editing a typo in one of the scripts?09:41
thykohow do i just install kubuntu from the boot prompt? without having to go to the live cd desktop first?09:42
Jucatothyko: if you downloaded the Live CD, you can't... afaik09:42
emonkeythyko, try the alternate CD09:42
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: what's Moodle?09:42
emonkeyan e-learning Server09:42
Admiral_Chicagothyko: you could also try the safe mode, i forget what it's called09:42
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: kinda like blackboard, CNET etc09:43
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: from the Live CD?09:43
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: no it's an open source program used by my school for a webpage for a protein folding project09:43
JucatoSafe graphics mode, afaik, doesn't go to the CLI in the Live CD09:43
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mulderJucato (and the others) I don't know how to add the multiverse thingy, even by looking at the guide...I am using Kubuntu and things aren't the same. Sorry!09:43
Jucatoer.. I was referring to the safe mode you mentioned :)09:43
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: that is what i meant09:43
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Admiral_Chicagosorry i was confused09:44
Admiral_Chicagoit's almost 3 here09:44
edge888hi! I just upgraded my Kubuntu to Edgy Eft, however, my frostwire doesnt connect to the internet, its just say "Starting Connection"... any workaround? :) tnx09:44
pielgrzymcan't find the power management (acpi) options - in dapper it used to be in a separate menu09:44
Jucatoopen source course management software?09:44
mulderI opened adept...manage repositories..but after that I am lost!09:44
pielgrzymIf I totally disable acpi will the computer work ok?09:44
stefan__hi all09:44
Jucatomulder: ok look for the line with "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"09:45
pielgrzymI mean will it be able to shut down normally :)09:45
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: yup, it's from Australia09:45
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mulderwell all my components show main restricted09:45
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Jucatomulder:  look for the line I just told you09:46
Jucatosubstituting "xx" for your locale (gb, us, uk, au, etc)09:46
mulderyes I understand that Jucato, but instead of universe it is main restricted09:46
Jucatomulder: scroll down a bit more09:47
mulderit is greyed out09:47
Jucatomulder: ok, right-click and select Enable09:47
intelikeysed 's/main restricted/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list > ~/sources.list09:47
mulderonly deb, not deb-src09:47
Jucatomulder: yes09:47
Jucatointelikey: quick fix, but he won't learn, right?09:48
mulderstill greyed out :-(09:48
intelikeyyou can look at the new copy in your home and if it suits you copy it to /etc/apt.09:48
intelikeyJucato idk ?    will he ?09:48
Jucatomulder: are you sure? even after right-clicking and selecting enable?09:48
mulderyes still greyed out, but I can change the lines it seems09:48
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Jucatomulder: hm.. that would be strange.... works fine here09:49
Jucatowhat do you mean by you can "change the lines"?09:49
mulderthe greyed out deb shows universe, unlike the non greyed out showing main restricted09:49
mulderwell If i click twice on universe, I can write something else for instance09:50
Jucatomulder: ah ok. then add the word "multiverse" to that09:50
pacmancan anyone help me with my 3d accelerator09:50
Jucatoso that it would be "universe multiverse"09:50
mulderafter or before universe?09:50
Jucatomulder: do not deletet "universe"09:50
mulderah ok09:50
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intelikeyorder is not important there mulder09:51
muldershall I save and close?09:51
Jucatomulder: try to Enable it again...09:51
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mulderit is enabled but still greyed out09:51
Jucatoah ok.. click on Apply, then Close09:52
Jucatothen at the top, click on Fetch Updates09:52
mulderyes now it is in black :-)09:52
JucatoI swear! Adept needs a total makeover!09:52
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Jucatomulder: click on Fetch Updates, once it finishes, you can look for and install libxine-extracodecs09:52
mulderit is downloading suff now :-)09:53
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Jucatoand that is how you edit your sources.list using Adept09:53
intelikeyi like sed better  :)09:54
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intelikeyoh i got it.  just wondered why.... ?09:59
mulderok now it works...but sound is gone! Arghhhh09:59
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muldertrying to configure the sound...alas10:00
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mulderI don't know...jeez. Maybe vlc will work10:02
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Emesshey flaccid i got it to go :D10:07
Emessedgy is sexy!10:07
mulderit is indeed, but has a very bad temper sometimes! Like a red-haired girlfriend!10:09
Jucatolike scully?10:10
Emesslol, it took me a while but it works now, actually the onyl problem i ah was acpi,b ut that took 11 hours to fix10:10
Emessnow to figure out why beryl wont load10:10
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mulderscully is wonderful, sexy and smart...well you can say the same about Edgy no?10:12
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Jucatoshe's also fickle at times10:12
Emessi lvoed the boot screen, although i ahd to restore my gui settings10:12
muldernobody is perfect, but at least she has the nose for investigating :-)10:12
Jucatoedgy makes you investigate it :)10:12
mulderstill no sound with my movies :-(10:13
Emessmy little sister (shes 8) was like "ooooh gimme that, my one is ugly!"10:13
Emessshe should be fine with dapper tho, it isnt ugly at all10:13
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muldernext kubuntu should be called Sweet Sister then :-)10:13
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Emesslol, she sin ubuntu heaven, untuil last weeks he has Xandros 3 OCE10:13
Jucatothat will have to wait till we get to "S"10:13
Jucatoand that implies that "Sister" is an animal :P10:13
Emessi gave her a ubuntu disk and she partitioned and sintalled it ehrself lol10:13
mulderFlying Formula?10:14
JucatoFeisty Fawn10:14
mulderyeah I know...heard that ;-)10:14
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Emessnot necessarily, tehre was no c, it went breezy then dapper, and what about hoary and warty?10:14
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JucatoEmess: omg! an 8 year old partitioning by herself?10:14
JucatoEmess: they started going alphabetical with Dapper10:14
mulderwait till you get to Hairy Harty!10:14
Emessyeah, why not? i partitioned mandrake on by first nix box when i was 710:14
Jucatono more "H"10:14
Emessah ok10:14
intelikeyJucato ????  warty hoary breezy dapper edgy     what is the order there ????10:15
Emessme waits for Mangey monkey10:15
Jucatolol! I never even heard about partitioning until I was. um... 17?10:15
Emessor Sexy Snakes10:15
Jucatointelikey: they decided to start going alphabetical in Dapper10:15
JucatoDapper, Edgy, Feisty10:15
intelikeyreally ?10:15
Jucatothere will be no G and H though10:15
SHRIKEEH can be Horny :)10:15
intelikeyno goat or horse ?10:16
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JucatoGrumpy Groundhog was the codename for the testing stuff, iirc10:16
Jucatoand we already had Hoary Hedgehog10:16
mulderGrumpy Granny could have been better10:17
Jucatoyou're implying that Granny is an animal :P10:17
Jucatoalthough Grumpy Gopher might have been more appropriate...10:17
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intelikeythis is Krazy.  mc displays correctly in the "fixed consoles" but not in others, while elinks does the oppisite.....10:18
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Emessmc = midnight commander?10:19
mulderI still don't have the sound in neither K nor Vlc!10:19
intelikeyEmess yes10:19
Emesshavent used that ina  while10:20
muldersometimes when the sound system restart, it does so for ages...10:20
Emessmulder: restart alsa?10:20
intelikeyfixed consoles --- /etc/rcS.d/S90console-screen.sh10:20
Jucatomulder: where do you have sounds then?10:20
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equippedallo all10:21
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equippedi'm brand new to kubuntu and loving it10:21
intelikeyyou'll get over that10:21
equippedwow that's positive?10:22
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equippedcan i ask some overasked questions im sure?10:23
mulderok I am using a laptop...it has intel hda onboard, but I am using my audigy 2 zs card inserted in the pci slot. Porblem I can get the sound from the audigy2 only from the intel. But now I can't hear the sound coming from the players!10:23
intelikeycomputyus say "programmer that know computer, have strange sex life"10:23
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Jucato... and that, dear Kubuntu users, is intelikey's (futile) attempt at humor...10:25
mulderamarok plays the music fine, but only using the intel sound!10:25
intelikeyditto jucato10:25
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Marius_anyone here who can help me.... i just updated from dapper and my OS is no more working10:26
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seletzMarius_: if you want anyone to help you, you should probably define "not more working" more accurately ;)10:27
ccomp5950marious_: What do you mean, not working?  Little more detail needed.  What does it stop working on, what step?...do you get to login?10:27
Marius_well is not booting into x10:28
seletzMorning, btw x_X10:28
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Marius_it's checking the filesystem10:28
drumline_Marius_: after the file sys checks, then what?10:28
seletzlet it check, dont interrupt, dond switch off your computer ;)10:28
Marius_it says something like "last mount time is after the current time"10:28
seletzMarius_: The filesystem is checked every xx times it is mounted per default.10:29
seletzMarius_: Thats normal.10:29
Marius_well it is somehow stuck in that process10:29
drumline_Marius_: check this article: http://desktoplinux.com/news/NS3291004537.html10:30
intelikeythat's normal seletz  ???10:30
drumline_Marius_: if that's it, then follow the directions that Steve gives on the site.10:30
Jucatoon ext3, the filesystem is checked after 30 mounts10:30
ccomp5950What happened, you didn't setup your time properly when you installed this time resulting in a time that was prior to your dapper system time.  Right now you have a couple choices:  I would let it run over night but if it's not doing anything change your BIOS time to a time say next month.10:30
Marius_i am unable to access  kubuntuforums.net10:31
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seletzintelikey: the check is, but it getting struck is not ;)10:31
Jucatohi dude_10:31
intelikeyseletz no the time stamp.   look at the error10:31
Marius_so what is the site whith steve's directions10:32
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intelikey***<Marius_> it says something like "last mount time is after the current time"***10:32
dude_jucato: what the difference between alternate from desktop?10:32
dude_jucato: whats the difference between alternate from desktop?10:32
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Jucatodude_: no need to repeat :P10:33
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dude_i forgot the "s" : )10:33
JucatoDesktop CD = Live CD with GUI installer (very basic options only). Alternate Install CD = text based installer with more options10:33
Marius_how about the dvd version?10:34
dude_jucato: ohh ok tnx10:34
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solar_anthey all10:36
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drumline_Marius_: i gave you the link above: http://desktoplinux.com/news/NS3291004537.html10:37
Marius_thank you verry much10:37
dude_jucato: have you tried xubuntu?10:38
Z_GodI'm trying to install edgy, but I get "There is no basefilesystem" on the partition screen10:39
Jucatodude_: yes for a short while only10:39
Z_Godis this a bug or something like that?10:39
Z_GodI selected a 20 GB partition for /10:39
dude_jucato: why?10:39
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Jucatodude_: because I love KDE :P10:39
dude_jucato: :) y a....10:40
Jucatodude_: but seriously. it was fast, but a bit too gimped for my taste.10:40
intelikeyZ_God probably a bug in your choice of file systems.10:40
dude_jucato: i want to try beryl, but im still afraid hehehe10:40
Jucatome to10:40
mulderok guys something else happened here...when I open my applications, I am asked for a password, but then it runs as root!10:40
intelikeyand nicks...10:41
Jucatomulder: all apps?10:41
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Z_GodI'll just download the alternate cd10:42
mulderwell I try adept now, and it says run as root10:42
intelikeyZ linux doesn't live in ntfs space without scba gear10:42
dude_jucato: i can add xubuntu with my current system right?10:42
Jucatodude_: yes10:43
intelikeywhat have you selected as the root partition ?10:43
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intelikeyyou are not giving us much to work with10:43
dude_jucato : apt-get install xubuntu?10:43
Z_God/dev/hde5 it's what's already my current kubuntu root partition10:43
Jucatomulder: that's normal10:43
mulderI am getting confused myself. But yes it looks normal, because I use the password I put10:44
Jucatodude_: I would suggest "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install -R xubuntu-desktop"10:44
intelikeyok and you set it to format that10:44
mulderChickies will get teeth before I start using Linux like a pro!10:44
intelikeyand to mount it as /10:44
Jucatodude_: so that you can "sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop" easily later10:44
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dude_jucato: ok copy, tnx10:44
intelikeythen you may have a bug.  yes.10:45
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mulderWhere you guys are based anyway for support?10:46
Z_Goddownloading the alternate iso at 11 MB/s now :)10:46
Emessis there a way to change the icon for kmenu?10:46
Jucatomulder: only ding this for free, in my spare time10:46
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EmessZ_God: for that speed...can i be your best friend?10:46
Z_Godlol :P10:47
mulderThat is kind for you to do it for free...help newcomers like myself. I suppose you aren't married? :-)10:47
Jucatolol no10:47
intelikeymulder i don't think anyone talking in the last hour is any part of the ubntun team.....10:47
JucatoEmess: Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id255195810:47
dude_jucato: what is this xubuntu 6.10?10:47
Jucatodude_: it's Xubuntu Edgy10:47
mulderwell that is why I keep Ubuntu/K because of the community10:47
Z_God>Emess burning takes a while though :S10:47
muldergreat people who can help :-)10:48
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srengyoupi :)10:49
srengBeryl rox10:49
mulderwhat is Beryl?10:49
Jucato!beryl | mulder10:49
ubotumulder: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.10:49
sreng3D effects for the desktop10:49
KooL4444my beryl crashes when i go to shutdown10:49
srengwow :) cool script10:50
dude_jucato: i can't use my foot pedal10:50
sreng!master | mulder10:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about master - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
sreng!man | mulder10:50
ubotumulder: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands10:50
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:51
mulderI am lost now thanks fellas!10:51
srengtype "beryl" in youtube and you will see10:52
intelikeymulder that second botsnack was just sreng learning how to play with ubotu10:52
mulderI am looking at some screenshot, lovely and sexy like scully!10:53
intelikey!botsnack ?10:53
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botsnack ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:53
Emessmy burner can do a full 4gig dvd in 2.30 minutes :D10:53
Emessmy burner + your bandwidht = awesome, Z_God10:53
Z_Godheh, yeah10:53
Z_Godit's just a local mirror though ;)10:54
Emessactually, i live about 10 minutes drive fromt eh australian ubuntu mirror, its owned by teh UWA computing club lol10:54
Emessas it says on their door "ubuntu on tap"10:54
mulderso many people have the icons displayed like widgets or something. The stuff that windowblinds uses...how can you do that?10:54
Z_Godheh, neat10:55
Z_GodI'm on a campus myself, the ftp here just mirrors ubuntu too10:55
Z_Godhaven't really checked, but hopefully they've got the apt pool too :)10:55
mulderso how can I make beryl work then?10:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:57
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ltsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:57
dude_jucato: after the installation of xubuntu? does it affect my grub?10:58
Jucatoyou can choose to log into Xfce or KDE from the login screen, under the Sessions menu10:58
solar_anthey all10:58
solar_antwhats the md5sum for kubuntu 6.10 cd10:58
dude_jucato: ok, copy, tnx10:58
solar_antdoes nayone know ehre to find it10:58
solar_anti just downloaded the cd and hae trouble installing10:59
solar_antso want to check10:59
intelikeysolar_ant should be on the site10:59
solar_antintelikey:  it aint10:59
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solar_antanyway when i try to boot form the cd or even attempt media check10:59
solar_antthe blue screen appear for some time with kubuntu and bar scrolling down10:59
solar_antleft and right10:59
solar_antand then it blanks11:00
solar_antit says "hds error huh ? must exit with 0 " or something crazy like tha11:00
solar_antwhat do i do ???????/11:00
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mulderso it seems you nea big graphic card to run beryl!11:00
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intelikeymulder yep11:00
Jucatomulder: not really big, just needs to be good enough11:01
solar_antanyone ???11:01
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srengmulder: I run it on my IBM x31 Laptop11:02
srengmulder: it has no Big gfx card11:03
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srengmulder: ATI mobility M16 ~ RADEON 900011:03
muldermine is an atix1400 ati11:03
srengmulder: and it runs SMOOTHLY :D11:03
mulder1280x800 laptop11:03
srengis it an old laptop ?11:03
Jucatomulder: the important thing is you need 3d hardware acceleration11:03
mulderduo core intel11:04
Jucatoooh that's good11:04
mulderfew months old11:04
srengoh yeah then you are good i think11:04
srengmine is like 2 years old11:04
mulderglxinfo |grep -i direct is what I did11:04
mulderand it says no direct rendering11:04
srengedgy ?11:04
srengedgy eft ?11:04
Jucatowell, you'd need to install the proprietary driver for it to get direct rendering going11:04
mulderyes edgy11:05
mulderI guess I have them11:05
Jucatoyou "guess"?11:05
mulderwhere can I check I have them then?11:05
Jucatoif you didn't install them, they won't be there :)11:05
mulderwell I am new to Linux, and a friend of mine helped with some stuff11:05
Jucatowell I'm guessing if you don't have direct rendering on, then it's not installed11:06
mulderI didn't have 1280x800 running, so we have to install them to have that reso working11:06
mulderok how can I check?11:06
intelikeysolar_ant did you even look before you said the md5's are not on the site ???    http://planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu/releases/edgy/11:06
srengmulder: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX11:07
Ash-FoxIs there anything that can play divx3 movies?11:07
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GeckoAsh-Fox: try mplayer11:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about divx3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:08
GeckoAsh-Fox: with the appropriate codec pack11:08
mulderAs of october 2006, AIGLX should work out of the box in edgy, provided your graphics card supports it!11:09
Ash-FoxGecko, mplayer doesn't proccess this :P11:09
mulderhow can I check then?11:09
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GeckoAsh-Fox: check the mplayer website for an alternative codec pack then11:09
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srengmulder: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/beryl11:10
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srengmulder: i think you have to change some of your xorg.conf11:11
mulderah some french reading...!11:11
mefisto__I have 2 soundcards, kmix almost always starts with the wrong soundcard. How can I specify which card it should control by default?11:11
srengmulder: well i also gave you an english howto to install beryl11:13
mulderdon't worry I can read french no problems :-)11:14
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin11:16
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mefisto__I've solved my sound problems, it's the kmix interface that's driving me nuts now11:17
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harmentalhi everybody...11:19
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Z_Godthe alternate cd seems to be working :)11:19
harmentalhas anybody tried to upgrade from dapper to edgy without a clean install? (ie. as indicated in kubuntu site)11:19
intelikeyharmental several11:20
harmentalany succes?11:20
intelikeynot a very high percentage11:21
intelikeyin school you wouldn't want that mark....11:21
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intelikeybut some yes.11:21
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mefisto__can k3b create audio CDs with no gaps between tracks?11:23
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mulderok guys, have to go for a while. Will be back. Thanks for your help Jucato and Intel, and the others.11:25
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Admiral_Chicagomefisto__: i think so11:26
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mefisto__I thought I'd made one, but perhaps kaffeine can't play it without a slight pause between tracks11:29
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Admiral_Chicagodid you try using a CD player?11:37
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mefisto__I don't actually own one any more11:38
mefisto__amarok plays cds right?11:38
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pielgrzymhow to make glxgears show fps?11:41
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Jucatopielgrzym: glxgears -printfps11:42
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pielgrzymJucato: thanks :) is this a good score for R9200: 6163 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1232.585 FPS ?11:42
Jucatodunno.. sorry :(11:43
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wombat_help, I've done something to my vid card drivers and am now stuck at 640x480 res11:44
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wombat_I thought I had undone everything I did before it stuffed up but I'm still having problems11:46
zkhalissalut je connais rien a kubuntu et linux en general est ce que quelqu'un peut m'aider j'aimerais couter la radio j'ai essay kaffeine et amarok sa ne marche pas :(11:47
Jucato!fr | zkhalis11:47
ubotuzkhalis: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:47
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mefisto__what did you do that you have undone, wombat_?11:48
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zkhalismerci :)11:49
wombat_mefisto:I tried to update the drivers for my vid card using Adept Manager and changed the driver selection in the system/moniter and display section11:50
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wombat_mefisto: I then hit the test button and got a screen that looked like no channel on an old television, all black and white dots and an x for a cursor.11:51
Admiral_Chicagomefisto__: yes11:51
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mefisto__ok, I'm far from an expert, but I found changing video settings is best done by changing one setting at a time (in the display section) and then restarting the x server (log out, then restart x from menu)11:52
brosiozehy a repository with w32codecs for my edgy ?11:52
Admiral_Chicagobrosioz: multiverse iirc11:52
Jucato!w32codecs | brosioz11:52
ubotubrosioz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:53
wombat_mefisto: I then hit the reset button on the computer because I couldn't work out how to get out of that screen, the computer rebooted and I had 640x480 res11:53
Jucatobrosioz: that first link11:53
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: multiverse doesn't have w32codecs11:53
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: which one does?11:53
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: none11:53
Jucatoyou either use PLF or download it from the link in the RestrictedFormats page11:53
mefisto__wombat_: go to the hardware tab and see if it can detect your vid card11:53
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: really?11:54
brosiozJucato: i want a repository not install a deb packages11:54
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Admiral_Chicagoah i see11:54
wombat_mefisto: where's the hardware tab?11:54
Jucatobrosioz: well, the only repository that has that is the PLF repos, but I think they don't support Edgy11:54
brosioza non official rep11:55
Admiral_Chicagobrosioz: "This package is not available from the Ubuntu repositories due to licensing and legal restrictions."11:55
brosiozA NON OFFICIAL REP11:55
Jucatobrosioz: like I said, PLF is down11:55
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Jucatobrosioz: any reason why you don't want the deb?11:56
brosiozPLF ?11:56
brosiozwhat's that ?11:56
JucatoPLF = freecontrib repository11:56
Jucatothat's the unofficial repo that you're looking for11:56
ubotuPLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas11:56
Jucato"PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer"11:56
mefisto__wombat_: system settings > display 3rd tab from left11:57
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Jucatobrosioz: any reason why you don't want to just download the deb?11:57
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brosiozbut is still down ?11:57
Jucatobrosioz: yes11:57
brosiozJucato: i prefer a repository cause if there is an update i don't want to reinstall a package each time11:58
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Jucatobrosioz: there is rarely any update for the w32codecs. very rare11:58
Jucatobrosioz: libxine-extracodecs, on the other hand, is in multiverse11:58
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rmihi all...what repositories should I use to find and install xine?12:01
wombat_mefisto: yeah it is detecting it as nv. it's set to what was initially installed when I installed kubuntu. It will detect my card as an NVIDIA GeForce4(generic) if I go into configure.12:01
brosiozi don't remember12:01
brosiozbut there is also12:01
brosiozan official repository12:01
brosiozfor realmedia ?12:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about real - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:02
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Jucatormi: you mean libxine-extracodecs? it's in multiverse12:02
mefisto__wombat_: that's it, let it find your specific card in configure, then exit back to the desktop, log out, restart x, and THEN go back to try changing your display settings12:02
wombat_ok, I'll try but I'm pretty sure that's what I did12:03
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robert_who builds kde 3.5.5's packages?12:04
rmiok thx12:04
mefisto__sorry wombat_ that's all I can suggest. I'm very new to this, but that's how I got my video settings sorted out12:04
robert_well, whoever does needs to fix ksmserver12:04
robert_(it's crashed on me 3x today)12:04
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brosiozdeb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy  main12:05
brosiozlike this12:05
excludeduring the upgrade to edgy, kubuntu wrote some weird stuff in my /etc/fstab12:05
brosiozbut i get wrong12:05
Jucatobrosioz: you mean the commercial repos? doesn't exist yet for Edgy, I'm afraid12:05
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Jucatoexclude: that UUID stuff is normal12:05
excludenow my swap is no longer mounted on reboot!12:06
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mattiahi to all12:06
excludeJucato: right, but I have no clue how to fix my swap issues then :)12:06
mattiaI can not install firefox12:06
mattiacan some one  help me12:06
brosiozdude exists...12:06
BluesKajGood Morning all , it's darn early here12:06
Jucatoexclude: how come?12:06
excludeJucato: where can I find more details about the UUID stuff then? How do I know what that UUID refers to?12:07
Jucatobrosioz: sorry let me rephrase, it does exist, but is empty12:07
mefisto__mattia: did you try installing thru adept?12:07
excludeJucato: I don't really know, I just had a very hard crash, because of "out of memory" issues. Had to pull the power plug and all :(12:07
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brosiozdeb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main12:08
brosiozdude now work12:08
excludeJucato: I did find out that swap wasn't initialised. lemme check the bootlog12:08
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weedarto prevent firefox from constantly crashing I have to set the shell variable XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS to 1, how do I do this for all users always. .bashrc?12:10
excludeJucato: I got it working this session by issueing mkswap ... and swapon. But I'd prefer ubuntu to boot and initialise swap itself :)12:10
Jucatohm... I'm not really sure why it isn't loading. I'll show you my fstab line for swap12:11
exclude# /dev/hda5 -- converted during upgrade to edgy12:11
excludeUUID=d5ca5f96-fce4-457c-adaf-c467cf50acc8 none swap sw 0 012:11
Admiral_Chicagoexclude: are you sure fstab is correct12:11
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esaymeasy way to get firefox: http://getswiftfox.com/installer.htm12:11
Admiral_Chicagohmm that seems...complicated12:11
JucatoUUID=dc22d891-ecc4-4c44-80ee-90d0c4e8b61d none            swap    sw              0       012:11
excludeAdmiral_Chicago: no. But I never touched it :)12:11
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hammerho do i format my flash mp3 player?12:12
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: it's the default for edgy12:12
excludeAdmiral_Chicago: and because of the UUID, I cannot fix it. I have no clue what that is.12:12
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: Edgy seems to be doing a lot of new stuff but i guess that was the point12:12
Jucatoexclude: you upgraded right?12:12
Admiral_Chicagoexclude: personally, i'd change the fstab back to smoething readably12:13
Jucatoer exclude....12:13
Jucatodo you see #comments  in your fstab?12:13
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Jucatothe ones immediately above the UUID lines?12:13
Admiral_Chicagoah i got those too12:13
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: do you suggest i keep them as is. i can't read them and it looks awful12:14
excludeJucato: sorry, was on my terminal 1 :)12:14
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: you're not supposed to read them in the first place :)12:14
wombat_No luck mefisto..... I'll keep playing12:14
excludeJucato: see above, I pasted the Comment with it.12:14
excludebut I found "sudo blkid " Admiral_Chicago, Jucato12:14
Jucatoexclude: so that UUID is for your /dev/hda512:14
mefisto__wombat_: did you uninstall the new driver?12:15
excludeexclude: according to blkid it is not!12:15
Admiral_Chicagoexclude: vhat does that do?12:15
excludeAdmiral_Chicago: that command shows a list with the UUIDs, apparently they are a new way of identifying hdds12:16
Admiral_Chicagoexclude: first i heard of it and i follow linux news pretty closely12:16
Jucatoexclude: thanks for the command12:16
excludeAdmiral_Chicago: me too. And I am not very happy with hearing that.12:17
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Admiral_Chicagoexclude: i can see the advantage12:17
Jucatoexclude: if that's so, try changing the UUID to match your swap partition12:17
excludeme too. Its just so.... different :912:17
excludeJucato: already did that, and it solves the issue12:17
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rmiwhat's the safest way to install nvidia drivers in a kubuntu based laptop?12:18
excludeJucato: leaves me wondering how the F the update Fsked up so bad by giving my swap a broken UUID,12:18
Jucatoexclude: I wouldn't know... :(12:18
excludeme neither, but, well, it works now, my itch is scrathced.12:19
exclude :)12:19
mefisto__wombat_: are there any backup copies of xorg.conf?12:19
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wombat_mefisto:um, no idea, I've had kubuntu on this machine for 2 days12:20
wombat_and have been using linux for just as long12:20
mefisto__wombat_: hey, me too12:20
Jucatoexclude: you don't need sudo to run blkid12:20
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Admiral_Chicago!nvidia > rmi:12:21
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excludeJucato: ah, that post mentioned it being in /sbin so I assumed that.12:21
mefisto__wombat_: if you do locate xorg.conf in a terminal window, it will find it for you. you can then look in that directory for other files that look like they might be backup copies12:21
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Jucato!UUID | exclude Admiral_Chicago12:22
ubotuexclude Admiral_Chicago: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"12:22
Jucatoexclude: thanks for the tip :)12:23
Jucatoif I could put acknowledgements there, I would put your name :)12:23
excludeJucato: mebby add the link  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LibAtaForAtaDisks to that?12:23
Jucatoexclude: nah. not for kids stuff :P12:23
Admiral_Chicagogood to know12:24
JucatoI'll consider it though...12:24
wombat_mefisto: where's it supposed to be?12:24
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Jucatoexclude: you can sleep well knowing that your little tip has the potential to help a lot of users :)12:24
excludeJucato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223182 is a good one too12:24
mefisto__I don't know yet, but it's in a directory called X11 (not x11)12:24
mefisto__wombat_: /etc/X11 I think12:25
mefisto__if I'm wrong, can someone correct me!!!12:25
excludemefisto__: that is correct.12:26
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Jucato /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:26
Jucatogood luck!12:27
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Admiral_Chicagoi never turn off my computer12:29
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wombat_mefisto: I've found the backup, do you know how to change it to the original?12:32
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berkesw00t :)12:33
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berkesmy fstab UUID change survived the reboot+.12:33
mefisto__copy your current one as xorg.conf.backup or something like that, then rename the backup to xorg.conf. But if it doesn't work you may not be able to start the desktop, so make sure you can find your way back in a terminal window so you can restore the current xorg.conf12:34
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wombat_mefisto: I don't have privelidges to save the file12:35
alexiconhiya im having issues with nvidia-glx12:37
_deb_wombat_: try renaming it as root used. use sudo .12:37
alexiconXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".12:37
alexiconError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual12:37
alexiconwhen i try to change driver to nvidia from nv it wont even start x12:37
alexiconLinux ff8k 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux12:38
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mefisto__wombat_: or if you want to do it with conqueror, run command (from the menu) and in options, as different user12:38
alexicondoesnt like my gentoo xorg.conf file either12:38
mefisto__wombat_: the command is simply konqueror12:38
mattiahi to all12:39
Sharketorhow can I set firefox as default browser????12:39
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Sharketorwhen I click on a link, konqueror starts12:40
mattiawhere can I find a library for ubuntu libgtk-x11-2.0.so.012:40
wombat_what's the command to rename a file?12:40
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mefisto__Sharketor: in system settings > kde components12:41
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berkeshmm. I love "orphaner", why is that not part of kubuntu by default?12:42
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berkespackage is deborphan btw-12:42
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mefisto__berkes: what is it?12:43
Sharketoranother question12:43
berkesafter my upgrade to edgy that tool helped me remove 77 stale packages, nearly 50 megabites of unused apps12:43
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Adam_there are some edgy dvd images available. What differs them from the regular cd isos?12:43
berkesmefisto__: its a tool to help you clean up and/or identify unused (orphaned) packages.12:43
SharketorI can't use keyboard volume key to set system volum. Why?12:43
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berkesmefisto__: say you tried some package with all sorts of weird dependencies, like e.g. beagle. But later on decide you no longer need beagle.12:45
Adam_does the dvd version include all the repos and that's all?12:45
berkessimple apt-get remove beagle will leave you with mono, all sorts of gtk apps and unused lib* packages.12:45
berkesdeborphan allows you to remove all these unused dependencies.12:46
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berkesmefisto__: you can compare it a little with norton cleansweep for linux :)12:47
mefisto__Sharketor: in system settings > regional & accessibility > keyboard layouts, switch on keyboard layouts and try finding your keyboard in the list. Then you can try setting up keyboard shortcuts in the keyboard shortcuts section12:47
rmihow can I add linux-headers from apt-get?12:47
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pupeno__When trying to create an encrypted file system with "cryptsetup -y create crypt /dev/hda3" I get the error: "Command failed: Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.07 (2006-05-11)(compat) and kernel driver", any ideas ? is cryptoloop broken in Edgy ?12:48
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pupeno__berkes, mefisto__: aptitude also does automatic removal of unneeded dependencies.12:49
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mefisto__berkes: I think I installed that but was too scared to remove anything12:49
berkespupeno__: ah, I did not know that,12:49
berkesrmi "apt-get linux-headers-`uname -r`"12:50
berkesrmi: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` obviously12:51
mefisto__how do you get amarok to play a cd?12:53
berkesmefisto__: its the third entry in "file" menu12:56
teledyn_pupeno__: sounds like libdevmapper version is wrong12:56
pupeno__teledyn_: indeed. Which would mean cryptsetup is broken in Edgy.12:56
teledyn_pupeno__: and/or the user space tools are not compatible with the version of the kernel module you're using12:56
mefisto__ok I see it now, but it'd dimmed out for some reason12:56
berkesmefisto__: but there is a commandline parameter for that too, and you can even use DCOP, if you're hardcore :)12:56
pupeno__teledyn_: do you know how to see the different versions of the different components ?12:57
teledyn_pupeno__: did you compile the user space tools yourself, or are they ubuntu's?12:57
pupeno__teledyn_: ubuntu's (edgy).12:57
teledyn_pupeno__: what package is cryptsetup part of?12:57
pupeno__teledyn_: cryptsetup.12:57
berkesmefisto__: hmm, that is weird, sounds like you are missing some important lib or so. best to ask in #amarok12:57
teledyn_pupeno__: you can try modinfo <module> for whatever the crypt module is12:57
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pupeno__modinfo: could not find module crypt12:58
pupeno__er, nevermind. I don't know the name of the mapper module (if there's one).12:58
teledyn_pupeno__: dpkg -l '*' | grep cryptsetup12:58
teledyn_pupeno__: lsmod12:59
Sharketormefisto: I set my keyboards layout but volume key doesn't work yet12:59
pupeno__teledyn_: oh, there's another cryptsetup!12:59
berkesSharketor: you must see if your keyboard is supported at all.12:59
mefisto__Sharketor: try to set it up in keyboard shortcuts12:59
teledyn_pupeno__: i don't know, i've always used encfs and fuse to do fs encryption12:59
berkesmany keyboard manufacturors don't release linux drivers.12:59
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teledyn_pupeno__: apt-cache search cryptsetup12:59
Sharketormefisto: where is?01:00
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berkesSharketor: try this: open amarok, then go to settings. then choose keyboard shortcuts.01:00
mefisto__Sharketor: same section, just under the keyboard layout on the left01:00
Sharketorberkes: ok, I try01:01
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berkesSharketor: but mephisto is right too, what I told is just another route to the same settings :)01:01
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Sharketorberkes: there isn't keyboards shotcuts01:02
berkesSharketor: do you see a small "speaker icon" in your systray?01:02
ricaneliteI'm so proud of myself, I finally got Ubuntu Edgy installed and everything so far working correctly, After a 4 days masscare of getting Edgy installed01:03
Sharketorwhit a flag?01:03
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berkesSharketor: okay, follow me:01:03
metawhat is the english name of that kde applet that lists the tasks?01:03
berkesK  System Settings01:04
metai want to find about something related inberyl forums, but idunno that's english name01:04
SharketorI'm here01:04
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berkesSharketor: sec, my system is rather slow because of some tasks running in the BG01:04
Sharketornot to bad01:05
MetaMorfoziSsomebody please check it for me...01:05
SharketorI have time01:05
berkesSharketor: there you choose "keyboard and mouse"01:05
weedarHow am I supposed to set file associations in FF2.0? I'm unable to "see" any other directories under / than home and media01:05
MetaMorfoziSSharketor: then please check what is the english name of that applet that lists the tasks in kicker01:05
berkesthen "shortcuts" in the left hand bar01:05
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weedarso I can't specify anything under /usr/bin, for example01:06
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MetaMorfoziSrightclick on kicker, and  remove applet or whatever, and that is in that menu01:06
MetaMorfoziSbut i dunno what is that's english name01:06
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Sharketorwait wait01:06
berkesSharketor, can you fing a "volume" there?01:07
Sharketorwell, in system settings I haven't "keyboard and mouse"01:07
berkeshmm. I cannot help you then :(01:08
rljupgraded from dapper to edgy, trying to get zeroconf to work. avahi-daemon is running, but kpf (mini-taskbar-webserver) claims it can't publish itself so i assume it's not really working yet01:08
Sharketorberkes: I choose "regional and accesibility"01:10
Sharketorthen "keyboards layouts"01:11
rljzeroconf:/ ioslave returns a blank screen as well01:11
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Sharketorthen layouts01:11
berkesSharketor: afaiks that is wrong.01:11
feldegastrlj: are u using xgl?01:11
berkesyou need shortcuts, not keyboard layouts!01:11
mefisto__Sharketor: keyboard shortcuts is right under keyboard layouts01:12
berkesSharketor: on my system (Dutch) its the third row, second icon.01:12
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Sharketorok, I found it01:13
rljfeldegast: no.01:13
rljfeldegast: not blank as in black, blank as in no icons or text, just konq background01:14
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berkesSharketor: find out if you see the command "volume up" etc.01:14
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Sharketornow see01:15
wombat_Woot, all sorted01:15
rljfeldegast: meaning zeroconf ioslave found nothing, including any localhost service that might be published. i.e. no working zeroconf (at least server). client might be working. dunno if i have any other zeroconf clients on this network01:15
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rljfeldegast: since most of the other hosts are win9801:16
daftvaderdoes anyone get a "test tv" for their usplash?01:16
Sharketorthere isn't01:16
daftvaderor does anyone know how to get rid of the "test tv" image for the usplash01:16
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mefisto__wombat_: did restoring the backup work?01:16
berkesSharketor: then I don't know.01:16
Sharketorok thanks01:17
berkesSharketor: as I said earlier: find out if your keyboard has linux support at all.-01:17
wombat_yeah, I just had to work out how to restore it. there's an edit as root command in the right click drop down menu when viewing your files01:17
mefisto__there is???01:18
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berkeswombat_: there is. But it only works with textfiles. AND when you have one file selected only01:18
mefisto__ok, in actions submenu. That's handy01:19
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ricaneliteAnyone here use XGL Desktop?01:20
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wombat_berkes: Yeah, I was trying to work out how to edit the xorg.config files01:21
Dr_willissudo vi /etc/xorg.conf :)01:21
Dr_willisI dont notice that edit as root menu item.01:22
ricaneliteIs there a Channel for user that use Apple Mac machines to run Ubuntu Linux?01:22
BlueEaglericanelite: Yes, it's #ubuntu for the regular ubuntu, this channel for kubuntu and #xubuntu for those who run the xubuntu variant.01:22
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ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:22
Dr_willisricanelite, the ubuntu wiki/forums also have some areas just for mac users01:22
wombat_is there some type of rollback program for system settings? like the system restore in windows?01:23
BlueEaglewombat_: Not other than backing up configuration files before you alter them. :)01:23
BlueEaglewombat_: (which everyone does, right?) :)01:24
wombat_um... yeah... um... of course :D01:24
berkesdid anyone get glmatrix screensaver to work on kubuntu?01:24
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:24
berkesweird thing is, that it is installed here. Its just not available under the screensaver settings.01:24
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BlueEagleberkes: Have you got glx installed correctly?01:25
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berkesBlueEagle: I think I did, hoz zould I know?01:25
BlueEagleberkes: glxinfo should tell you.01:25
BlueEagleberkes: or flglxinfo if you run ATi (i think that's what it's called)01:25
wombat_in the hardware tab of monitor and display settings there is a test button. I clicked it before, after changing some settings, and got a black and white checked screen with a black X for a cursor. what do you do from there?01:26
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Acecan someone help me get my java to work with firefox01:26
wombat_besides hittin the reset button :D01:26
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository01:26
Acei think i got it installed though01:27
berkesBlueEagle: I found out that, in order to get more screensavers, the package xscreensaver is required too.01:27
berkesit works now :/. Weird to see that about 12 screensavers are installed but cannot work :)01:27
BlueEaglewombat_: Well CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE will restart your X-server. Other than that, I don' know what caused it to appear in the first place. The screen you're describing is the X-server root window w/o any wm running on it.01:27
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BlueEagleace: Please read the page on help.ubuntu.com and if you're still not getting it working please tell us exactly which step that fails and if possible what error you are getting.01:29
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Aceok i downloaded it from its website and ran it it installed and dont work01:30
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wombat_BlueEagle: could it be because of faulty graphics card drivers?01:32
BlueEaglewombat_: It could, but I've never used it so I am unable to effectively debug it. :/01:33
ricanelitewhen i type in sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin it says E: Could'nt find package sun-java5-bin01:33
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:34
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Dr_williswhy is it - ive never had to install sun-java5-bin..01:35
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository01:35
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pupeno_Once a mapping is defined in /etc/crypttab, how do I activate it ?01:36
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deepI can't see any desktop icon or bar, only start-up programs (kopete and konversation) and rigth-click on desktop don't open any menu01:37
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deepanyone can help?:P01:37
ricaneliteWell, I'm running a PPC Computer which is a Apple Machine and I just got so confuse when i saw the directions for it, lol01:38
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Dr_willisdeep,  sounds like your .kde settings got totally messed up01:38
Dr_willisdeep,  could just delete the .kde* dirs and logout/backin and that should kick kde in the head and back to defaults.01:38
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Marius_Hi guys! I am having problems with my mouse. I am using a laptop and an USB optical mouse. After several minutes of operation my USB mouse stops working and I can use only my pad. I tried reinstalling the xserver but nothing happens01:41
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wombat_I have all the repositories enabled in Adept Manager but I can't find the sun-java5-jre01:43
Dr_willisMarius_,  chedk dmesg output01:44
Riddellwombat_: you need to add multiverse manually, plus you can't install java through adept yet01:44
wombat_ok, do I open the root console and type install sun-java5-jre.bin?01:45
wombat_I have added all of the repositories01:45
Riddellwombat_: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre01:45
wombat_kk, thank you01:46
Dr_willis.bin is a binary you run..01:46
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Dr_willisbest to use the apt-get command. :)01:46
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pupeno_Where do I have to list mappings for cryptsetup to automatically create them upon mounting ?01:48
wombat_Package sun-java5-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.  This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package sun-java5-jre has no installation candidate01:48
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xsachawombat: have you ever run update?01:49
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Dr_williswombat_,  you did a sudo apt-get update  - AFTER you edieted the repositories?01:49
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wombat_xsacha: I don't think so, I've only had this install on the computer for 2 days01:50
xsachalike Dr_willis said above: sudo apt-get update01:50
wombat_Dr_willis: sorry, I don't understand01:50
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Dr_willisafter chagneing your repos, and  about every day... you want to do the 'sudo apt-get update'   then 'sudo apt-get upgrade'01:51
Dr_willisif you DONT update.. then the changes to the repositories do NOT take affect.01:51
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Dr_willisor effect. :)01:51
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Dr_willisapt-get basics. :)01:51
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wombat_ok, I have done both update and upgrade and still get the same response01:52
wombat_do I have to add the repositories through the console?01:52
Dr_willisthen either your apt.sources are down.. or the pacakges are messed up on the server...01:52
Dr_willisi always use the console.. :) its easier.01:53
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:53
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Dr_willisthis is on a ppc machine however? Hmm01:53
Dr_willisor was that anotehr guy?01:53
wombat_I added them through the adept manager01:53
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wombat_that was someone else01:53
wombat_mine's a PIII01:54
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wombat_source-o-matic doesn't have the latest distro01:56
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drhouse_hello. i see only 85 refresh.. how can i see lower?01:57
gnomefreakit will. the person that owns it has alot on his plate right now when he gets time he will update it.01:57
Dr_willisi still think we need a littel app included iwith the disrtos to help in rebuilding of the sources.list01:58
mefisto__if I remove my windows hard drive (with grub) and just leave my kubuntu drive, will it boot up?01:58
Dr_willisgnomefreak,  ya get any mail back from the frostwire guys? :)01:58
Admiral_Chicagognomefreak: i have an idea for a project01:58
Admiral_Chicagothat will be insane / really helpful to some people01:58
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gnomefreakDr_willis: not yet but i might not need to01:59
Dr_willismefisto__,  you mean physicially remove hda? leaving hdc which has linux on it?01:59
gnomefreakalso havent checked mail t oday yet01:59
mefisto__Dr_willis: yes exactly01:59
Dr_willismefisto__,  grub will get confused. :) and you will need to edit the menu.lst and reisntall grub.01:59
Dr_willismefisto__,  but the /etc/fstab shouldent be affected.. unless you move hdc to hda's place.01:59
gnomefreakDr_willis: there is a command for it but i cant think of it02:00
Dr_willisremoving grub from hda.  will normally need a XP boot cd in rescue mode, to use the 'fixmbr' command.02:00
gnomefreakDr_willis: to redo the sources.list file02:00
mefisto__so I reinstall grub before disconnecting hda?02:00
Dr_willisgnomefreak,  yea - i rember one from debian days.. but i dident think it worked very well..02:00
gnomefreakit may not never tried it02:01
Dr_willismefisto__,  you can edit the grub configs and put grub on hdc now if you wanted.. yes.02:01
mefisto__do you have a link to some instructions, Dr_willis?02:01
Dr_willismefisto__,  BUT the problem is that grub reenumerates (right word) the drives  when the system starts up. Your hdc of hd(1,1)  or whatever just moved up the chain.02:01
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Dr_willismefisto__,  the grub homepage/manual is very very well done and worth reading. :)02:02
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:02
Dr_willisinstall grub to hdc.  then when ya boot after removing the hd. you may have to edit the grub boot lines to use the proper (hd0,1) or whatever entry02:02
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Dr_willisalso rember that grub starts counting at 0 :)02:03
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wombat_can you make GRUB boot the windows install by default? my wife's upset that she has to make it boot to windows.02:07
pupeno_I am trying to configure pam mount to mount my encrypted filesystem. My problem is it tries to mount /dev/mapper/pupeno without first creating the mapping. Do you know what might I be missing ?02:08
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ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:09
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands02:09
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)02:09
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xsachawombat_: try man grub02:10
Admiral_Chicagosudo apt-get remove wife :)02:10
xsachaand try that grubhowto02:10
xsachayou should be able to change it easily in /boot/grub/menu.lst02:11
mefisto__wombat_: I edited /boot/grub/menu.lst today to do exactly what you're asking02:12
grill_ scp wife -> Admiral_Chicago02:12
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mefisto__wombat_: just put XP at the top02:12
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Admiral_Chicagogrill_: man i once told a girl i wouldn't date her because she was running windows02:14
xsachaand she told you she wouldnt date you anyway because you're running linux?02:14
py_hello, it seems that kubuntu edgy (6.10) installer does not support reiserfs anymore. Does someone know why?02:14
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xsachayes, on purpose.. py_ .. you can of course just make a reiser partition yourself02:15
Jucatopy_: the Desktop installer never had a reiserfs option. even in Dapper02:15
dude_jucato !02:15
Jucatodude_: hi!02:15
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Jucatopy_: the Alternate Install CD has a reiserfs option02:16
dude_jucato: tagay na ! hehehe02:16
Admiral_Chicagoxsacha: whatever that's not the type of girl I want02:16
py_Jucato: hum, I'm perhaps confusing server and desktop version, but at least one of these had reiserfs support.02:16
py_Is there a technical reason not to include it on the "default" install cd?02:16
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Jucatopy_: there are 3 CD's: Desktop CD, Alternate Install CD, and Server CD. only the Desktop CD has no reiserfs02:16
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.02:16
xsachapeople complained about losing data on reiser or something02:17
Jucatopy_: according to the devs, it's because the QtParted used in the installer doesn't suppor reiserfs yet02:17
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Dr_willisreiserfs - the most loved and hated fs in the world. :)02:18
xsachapy_ it's pretty simple to just make the reiser yourself though :) mkreiserfs is incredibly easy to type02:18
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dude_jucato: what's the command again for downloading and installing xubuntu or edubuntu?02:18
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:18
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Dr_willissudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  (perhaps)02:19
Jucatodude_: "sudo aptitude update" and "sudo aptitude install -R xubuntu-desktop"02:19
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Jucatodude_: you could use apt-get if you want02:19
dude_jucato: tnx, tagay na ! hehehe02:19
py_xsacha: i know, I'm used to do it that way, but I just got a call from a friend who was confused by this lack of option, and which is not used to doing stuff "by hand". He was quite positive about having found it on a 6.06 Ubuntu CD previously, so he was quite surprised by the lack of it.02:19
Jucatoheheh later dude_. work first before pleasure :)02:19
Jucatopy_: the *Ubuntu* Destkop CD has that option, because GParted supports it02:20
Jucato*Kubuntu* doesn't. it uses QtParted02:20
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py_Jucato: yeah, that's why I specifically came here abiout Kubunty, as he is installing Kubuntu this time.02:20
Jucatopy_: well, know you know :)02:20
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xsachai would have thought it'd be much easier for it support reiser than ext3 lol02:20
py_Jucato: yep, thank you!02:21
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dude_jucato: actually we're drinkin right now with my friends, they're trying the linux OS, they want to feel the power of the open source OS :)02:21
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ubuntu__Is it possible to retain your /home directory while doing a new install instead of an update?02:22
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dude_jucatu: Xp loyalist02:22
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Jucatoubuntu__: only if you put it in a separate partition02:23
ubuntu__jucato, so I would have to create a new partition in 6.06, and then just make sure not to format that particular partition when i go to install 6.10?02:24
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Jucatoubuntu__: /home must be on a separate partition. so basically that's a "yes"02:24
Pastilhas_VVikiwhats the ubuntu police for new versions?02:25
dude_jucatu: can i have your mobile #? : )02:25
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Jucatodude_: no :P02:26
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gebruikerI want to setup a /etc/network/interfaces for my wifi card How do I do that?02:26
ubuntu__Well I mean, I already have the /home directory, and there are files in it I do not want to lose... If I simply don't choose to format that particular partition while installing 6.10, and assign that partition as my /home partition, will my old files still be there?02:26
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ubuntu__with the /home directory already being it's own partition02:28
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mefisto__is there a way to show disk usage (free space) in kubuntu gui?02:29
Jucatoubuntu__: as long as /home is on that other partition and you don't format that partition during the installation02:29
Jucatomefisto__: install "filelight"02:29
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ubuntu__jucato, thanks02:30
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xsachaanyone else her elike yakuake?02:30
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gnomefreakDr_willis: was talking to motu to see if it will save me a day or 2 see if we cant get it in repos02:32
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gnomefreakbut it would only be in feisty02:32
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gnomefreakJucato: frostwire02:32
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gnomefreaksince everyone uses it and the installer wont install on edgy without tweeking it02:33
xsachais frostwire identical to limewire or improved?02:33
xsachaor worse?02:33
Jucatobecause of DASH?02:33
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gnomefreakxsacha: about the same02:33
Jucato!frostwire > xsacha02:33
gnomefreakones free ones not02:33
xsachayes i know that Jucato :P but that doesnt help02:34
gnomefreakgui might be a little different02:34
Jucatosorry xsacha :)02:34
xsachai've seen it, just wasnt able to install ot02:34
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xsachaim using KTorrent and Apollon..02:35
gnomefreakyeah sometimes a torrent but not big ont hem02:35
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xsachai always get bad, but most importantly random speeds on torrent02:35
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xsachasince tomorrow is last day of month, i need to d/l a lot, fast.. on irc i can d/l 4gb/hour but there isnt enough on here02:36
xsachaany ideas for speed + a lot of stuff to download? :)02:36
Jucatooh... All Hallow's Eve...02:36
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mefisto__I've installed filelight. Does it work within konqueror? I can't find it in the menus02:37
xsachai saw 300 million GB on OpenFT network, but still couldnt find everything i wanted :(02:37
Jucatomefisto__: it should be under Utilities02:37
Jucatomefisto__: but if you really want a very very simple way to check disk space, just right-click on an empty space in Konqueror (file management mode) and select Properties, look towards the bottom of the box02:38
xsachakonsole is simple...02:38
Jucatoxsacha: he was asking for a GUI way :)02:39
xsachakonsole is a gui app :) it just has a terminal inside it ;)02:39
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mefisto__no Jucato, I just meant non-console method02:39
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Jucatomefisto__: er?02:40
mefisto__thanks xsacha02:40
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xsachagot 50% of my swap memory used :(02:40
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i had to tell a kid today, I barely feel safe running Ktorrent on Linux02:42
Admiral_Chicagoforget Bearshare on Windows02:42
xsachalol bearshare02:42
mikel28forget windows02:42
Admiral_Chicagowhy would anyone put themselves through that02:42
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: don't know bearshare :)02:42
Admiral_Chicagoit's a p2p app, I used it once02:43
Jucatoah. I never had trouble with torrents, even in Windows. but Limewire + older sister = not a good combination02:43
FlameMasterhey guys, quick question02:43
xsachaits not torrents i think jucato02:43
FlameMastercan I write to NTFS volumes on kubuntu edgy?02:44
Jucatotold you I didn't know anything about bearshare :P02:44
xsachagnutella probably, or donkey or something02:44
Admiral_ChicagoFlameMaster: not safely02:44
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JucatoFlameMaster: basically, no. there are *experimental* ways though. beta stuff02:44
xsachaFlameMaster: you can write to them so long as you do not change the filesize :D02:44
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FlameMasterAdmiral_Chicago: Yes, I have read about the "experimental" ways (captive, ntfs3g, etc)02:45
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FlameMasterwhat I meant was: Out of the Box NTFS write support on edgy Y/N?02:45
FlameMastereven if it's not safe02:45
gnomefreakFlameMaster: not safe at all02:45
FlameMasterah ok02:45
BluesKajwhat's the command for installing an *.xpi file ?02:46
Jucatowell, you could always give read/write permissions to your NTFS partition... but...02:46
Admiral_ChicagoFlameMaster: i read about ntsf3g but i'm just not sure. besides i like ext302:46
FlameMasterJucato: I'd rather try with captive... has anyone tested that?02:46
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gnomefreakBluesKaj: for firefox?02:46
xsachaFlameMaster: the kernel is compiled with write permission, but it's so long as you dont change the filesize02:46
FlameMasterAdmiral_Chicago: Well, too bad I still have to use windows :S02:47
gnomefreakBluesKaj: open ff go to tools and plugins than install and choose the .xpi and it will install it for you02:47
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Jucatoaah firefox stuff...02:47
xsachaFlameMaster: you can create a large but empty file (when in windows) and then mount to it when you get into linux and because it wont change the file size, you can write to it as much as you want02:47
Admiral_ChicagoFlameMaster: i know maybe think about using Fat3202:47
gnomefreakBluesKaj: downloading them should install them for you02:47
xsachaFlameMaster: there's a tutorial for it02:47
BluesKajcool, thx gnomefreak :)02:47
gnomefreakBluesKaj: mostly thunderbird needs you to save it first02:47
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FlameMasterxsacha: uri?02:47
Marius_how about reading/writing linux partitions from windows02:48
FlameMasterMarius_: Linux Drives plugin for Total Commander02:48
gnomefreakMarius_: its possible. safe not too sure about02:48
FlameMasterMarius_: It only supports reading and doesn't support logical volumes, though02:48
gnomefreakremember back up everything you need to save beofre writing to anything ;)02:48
FlameMasterAdmiral_Chicago: I'm not going to change my partition from NTFS to FAT3202:48
FlameMasterAdmiral_Chicago: too risky02:49
andreravhi - I have some problems with konsole schemas and transparency. If I set "transparent konsole" as default schema, the first tab in konsole will have a transparent terminal. However any subsequent tabs will have a black and non-transparent terminal. I have tried resetting my konsolerc, and logging in with a brand new user - but to no avail. This also affects yakuake. Anyone know what's going on? (I'm on edgy, but this problem started in dapper)02:49
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FlameMasterAdmiral_Chicago: I do have some sort of "swap" fat32 partition02:49
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Admiral_ChicagoFlameMaster: it's was too risky to resize a NTSF partition, that is how i hosed my XP partition02:49
FlameMasterAdmiral_Chicago: : that's what I said02:49
Admiral_Chicagodecided XP was not worth the trouble02:50
BluesKajgnomefreak, I'm trying to install Media wrap which is in beta at a different site than Firefox xtns , so there is no self installer for it02:50
gnomefreakBluesKaj: save it to home and try to install it that way02:50
xsachaFlameMaster: http://bisqwit.iki.fi/story/howto/ntfs/02:50
gnomefreakBluesKaj: since it wont install for you02:50
FlameMasterAdmiral_Chicago: I'm just waiting to buy a 250GiB HD, backup all my NTFS partitions, and then format on fat3202:50
gnomefreakBluesKaj: i cant test it atm since im not using ff 1.5-2.002:51
FlameMasterxsacha: tanks02:51
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xsachathat sort of write support will work out of the box FlameMaster :) but it all has to be put in same file (sort of like an archive/rar)02:51
BluesKajI did and i keep getting the same "not found" message02:51
gnomefreakBluesKaj: what is the URL02:51
gnomefreakill see if i cant do it here :(02:51
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Admiral_ChicagoFlameMaster: backups are a good idea regardless02:51
FlameMasterhas anyone tried mounting a Captive-NTFS partition?02:51
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gnomefreakbut i doubt its built for my version02:52
FlameMasterI did once, but messed up someway and couldn't write02:52
BluesKajgnomefreak, http://www.box.net/public/gqrm6lzeou02:52
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gnomefreakBluesKaj: brb lets see if i can figure this out02:52
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gnomefreakBluesKaj: once saved right click the saved package adn open with firefox :)02:54
dude_jucatu: is beryl stable?02:55
gnomefreakyou will need to choose open with other app than choose firefox02:55
gnomefreakand it should bring up the install dialog02:55
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gnomefreakBluesKaj: welcome tot he world of people making our lives a bit more diffucult02:56
jaHi folks. I installed Dapper on my laptop a few months back and at the moment, everything is perfect. But I'm curious about how people are getting on with edgy?02:56
FlameMasterja: My networking teacher was also using Dapper on his laptop, and recently upgraded to edgy. Everything is working smoothly.02:57
xsachano probs for me in edgy, but heard about a lot of trouble upgrading from dapper to it02:57
gnomefreakja: some good some not so good02:57
BluesKajgnomefreak, right on, i should have known that , DOH! ...thx :)02:57
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gnomefreakja: i havent had issues with edgy in a long time02:57
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ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:58
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Marius_ja: I used dapper on my laptop and just updated... after reboot I had too manually install kubuntu-desktop02:59
Marius_but after that everything is well02:59
gnomefreakusing update-manager fixes that :)02:59
BluesKajoh, another small annoyance gnomefreak, is there s a fix for the screensaver bug yet ...the timer works ok , the slideshow doesn't work ?02:59
Marius_except I have a problem wiht my usb mouse which stops working after a few min.. and i can only use my pad02:59
gnomefreakBluesKaj: for ksnapshot?03:00
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Marius_gnomefreak: i used synaptic and did not work03:00
Moni have a upgrade-to-edgy problem. probably because the upgrade was interupted. biggest problem seems to be: "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state, you should reinstall it before attempting a removal". but using -f with apt-get doesn't work03:00
gnomefreakMarius_: gksudo update-manager -c03:00
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gnomefreakMon: would that be a curror package03:01
Marius_gnomefreak: thanks.. i will try that03:01
gnomefreakcant spell03:01
BluesKajno, i use my pictures as the source file for the systems/desktop screensaver03:01
|WAL|where does Adept/Apt keep logs of what was installed/updated/removed?03:01
gnomefreakBluesKaj: didnt know there was a bug in it sorry03:01
BluesKajerr, "my pictures"03:01
Mongnomefreak: i wouldnt know, it does depend on libeel2-2 which version is not yet available it seems03:02
BluesKajok, a ot of us have the same problem it seems03:02
Mongnomefreak: but i've upgrade my other pc to edgy about 2 weeks ago with no problems03:02
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gnomefreakBluesKaj: anyone file a bug yet?03:02
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wombat_how do you install a *bin file?03:03
gnomefreakMon: try gksudo "update-manager -c"03:03
gnomefreakwonyou run them not install them03:03
gnomefreakwombat_: sh file.bin03:03
BluesKajgnomefreak, only one that i saw03:03
Mongnomefreak: i think that'd just be a dist-upgrade. which doesn't work because of a lot of dep. problems. also no X atm03:03
shadowhywindcan anyone help me set up my swap partition, which kubuntu refuses to see!03:03
Monshadowhywind: tried mkswap ?03:03
gnomefreakMon: update-manager -c will update your system from dapper to edgy. it fixes depends for you03:04
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Tm_THi kkathman.03:04
Mongnomefreak: probably, but as i said, no X/gnome whatever atm. system won't even boot. i'm in a chrooted env. now03:04
shadowhywindwhen i do mkswap i get Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 534605 kB, no label, UUID=613c8660-13f3-49f6-a5ba-fd40a108aa3803:04
gnomefreakMon: ah03:04
kkathmangreetings Tm_T :)03:04
gnomefreaktry sudo apt-get -f install03:04
Monshadowhywind: then swapon -a, or swapon /dev/swapdevice i think03:04
Mongnomefreak: like i said, that doesn't work :)03:05
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shadowhywinddo i have to update fstab?03:05
Monshadowhywind: if it's not already in there yeah03:05
Mongnomefreak: then i get the nautilus problem03:05
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gnomefreakMon: than install xserver-xorg xorg -xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-all03:05
shadowhywindnow the funny thing, is it will work, it will load on boot, but the moment i try to hibernate it fails to load on bootup03:05
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Mongnomefreak: it's installed but i just have a broken system atm03:06
Mongnomefreak: the GUI thing wont help me, it just calls apt-get and dpkg...03:06
gnomefreakMon: is it installed or just downloaded?03:06
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gnomefreakMon: pastebint he full errors03:06
Monshadowhywind: sorry i have no experience with hibernating. it's a bit on a works-per-machine basis03:06
gnomefreakpastebin the03:06
Mongnomefreak: it was a running dapper system upgraded to edgy, but someone interupted the upgrade halfway which may have something to do with it03:07
shadowhywindthe other funny thing, is it was working perfectly in dapper, once i did the upgrade it stopped working03:07
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gnomefreakMon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should continue the upgrade after stopping it03:07
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shadowhywindalso is there supposed to be a enty in mtab for swap?03:07
Monwell it's "edgy" ;) if you really want a stable system i'd wait 2 weeks after each release for things to work out a bit03:07
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Mongnomefreak: doesn't work..03:08
|WAL|where does Adept/Apt keep logs of what was installed/updated/removed?03:08
Jucatoshadowhywind: having swap problems?03:08
gnomefreakMon: instead of it doesnt work show me the errors or we cant really helpp03:08
shadowhywindjucato yes!! hehe03:08
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Jucatoshadowhywind: what sort of problem?03:08
Moni have a upgrade-to-edgy problem. probably because the upgrade was interupted. biggest problem seems to be: "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state, you should reinstall it before attempting a removal". but using -f with apt-get doesn't work03:08
Monthat's the error03:08
gnomefreakMon: i can give you 65 commands to fix it but i need the errors03:08
Monpackage is inconsisten.. that's it03:09
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shadowhywindwell at first, the swap was not being loaded at boot, i think i fixed that problem. And it loads everytime i start, but if i hibernate it fails to load the swap03:09
gnomefreakthe full command of "sudo apt-get -f install" what does it say03:09
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Monfirst some will be updated/upgraded etc packages, nothing weird03:10
gnomefreakthan its working03:10
shadowhywindso any ideas jucato?03:10
Jucatoshadowhywind: oh... hm... how did you fix the loading problem? they might  be related03:10
gnomefreakits fixing broken packages03:10
shadowhywindall i basically did was mkswap /dev/sda7 took the uuid number and add that to fstab03:11
alexiconhiya, im trying to install nvidia-glx but when i change the xorg.conf driver to "nvidia" X wont start up03:11
gnomefreakafter that sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should work unless more broken packages but i will brb03:11
shadowhywindalexicon comes up with a error no screens found?03:11
Jucatoshadowhywind: did you confirm that the UUID of sda7 and the one in fstab matches?03:11
alexiconyes i think thats the one03:11
shadowhywindyes, because i copied and pasted it in03:11
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Jucatoalexicon: did you install linux-restricted-modules?03:11
alexiconno Jucato03:12
Emessbwahahahahaha! the glider is now my kmenu icon :D03:12
Jucatoalexicon: you need that03:12
MrKevis there anybody from the Czech Republic?03:12
alexiconoh wait, it says installed03:12
Jucatoalexicon: install the linux-restricted-modules that matches your kernel03:12
alexiconhrm ok03:12
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Mongnomefreak: here goes:03:12
Mondpkg: error processing nautilus (--remove): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.03:12
shadowhywindlet me reboot, and get this last fstab set and working03:12
Monterminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'03:12
Monwhat(): basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid03:12
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alexiconmy uname -a says i68603:12
alexiconand i have 386 linux-restricted-modules03:13
MrKevI want to set text mode as default - in mandrakelinux 9.1 it was easy, but in KUBUNTU I do not know how to do it03:13
Jucatoalexicon: are you on Edgy?03:13
MrKevcan You help me?03:13
alexiconno Jucato03:13
MrKevplease? :)03:13
Jucatoalexicon: ah Dapper, get the result of "uname -r" and look for the linux-restricted-modules that matches that03:14
xsachaMrKev: for grub?03:14
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wombat_hmm running sh *.bin to install java didn't work03:15
alexiconJucato: it matches what i have, let me try enabling the glx again03:15
MrKevxsacha: I dont understand:(03:15
MrKevxsacha: grub?03:15
xsachawhat do you want text mode for?03:15
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shadowhywindok so activating swap was ok this time03:16
MrKevxsacha: its better to start linux in txt mode for me03:16
gnomefreakMon: sudo apt-get install --reinstall naultius03:16
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xsachaMrKev: i assume you are talking about the boot loader, GRUB03:16
Mongnomefreak: already tried :) no go03:16
shadowhywindand system guard sees the swap, so everything is good at the moment, If i hibernate right now, it will not load on startup03:16
MrKevxsacha: aaaa:) Yes, I use GRUB03:16
Mongnomefreak: then i get the libeel dep. problem03:16
xsachaMrKev: has nothing to do with kubuntu/mandrake, but you can sort out grub in /boot/grub/menu.lst03:16
gnomefreakMon: sudo dpkg -r naultis?03:16
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:17
shadowhywindit will say, harddrive was not cleanly unmounted, so any ideas?03:17
gnomefreakMon: run apt-get -f install again03:17
Monvery bad state problem03:17
MrKevxsacha: thanx03:17
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Monsame error03:17
gnomefreakMon: if that doesnt work sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:17
gnomefreakMon: ack03:17
gnomefreakMon: your on gnome or kde?03:17
Monlol oops03:17
Monah nevermind i guess :)03:17
gnomefreakMon: install ubuntu-desktop if using gnome03:18
Monthe #ubuntu chan is way too busy and questions seem to go by unnoticed03:18
Monyeah i know03:18
Mondep errors03:18
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gnomefreakon what packages03:18
Moni need to manually fix something i think, the whole apt-get thing doesn't work03:18
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pupeno__how many passes would you give to badblocks for a HD know to have bad blocks ?03:18
Monpff loads, ttf-stuff, vlc, games et03:18
Monpython OOo03:19
gnomefreakMon: please pastebin the full output03:19
shadowhywindso jucato any ideas?03:19
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:19
Monwhich would be typing over 2 screens of erros, no thanks ;)03:19
MrKevxsacha:  i opened menu.lst, but i dont know where can I set this03:19
radiusanyone know if there is a zinio mag substitute for kubuntu? running it in wine just doesn't run nicely03:19
Jucatoshadowhywind: sorry, none... :(03:19
Moni'm on my macbook now, the pc's really screwed03:19
xsachaMrKev: follow that link above the grubhowto03:19
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arvind_how do I add locales to the system?03:20
mefisto__what do I need to view flash swf (saved locally, not web content)03:20
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MrKevxsacha: grubhoeto?03:20
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MrKevxsacha: grubhowto?03:20
xsacha!grub > MrKev03:20
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gnomefreakMon: than i suggest reinstalling. i cant see errors it makes it that much harder/more time to fix. like i said there are a bunch of commands to fix each error03:20
Marius_Does anyone now a good tool to congfigure a tv tunner under kubunutu... my system saw the tunner but when tvtime is tryubg to find the channels it can;t find a single one ( i selected the right region/format)03:21
|WAL|where does Adept/Apt keep logs of what was installed/updated/removed?03:22
Jucato|WAL|: /var/log/dpkg.log03:22
Jucatosometimes dpkg.0.log I think...03:22
MrKevthanx for help. bye03:23
xsachaMrKev: edit your /etc/inittab file. If the entry is like "id:3:initdefault:." then it will boot in text mode. If the entry is like "id:5:initdefault:." then it will boot in graphical mode.03:24
xsacha:P wrong file anyway03:24
|WAL|Jucato: txs03:25
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thykowhats the diff between apache-mpm-prefork and apache-mpm-worker?03:26
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xsachaedgy doesnt have inittab because of this upstart thing right?03:27
kkathmanAny suggestions on how to configure mplayer/kmplayer inside firefox2 to be able to play wmv streams from sites like BBC or CNN ?03:27
xsachaoh found it: /etc/event.d/tt103:28
mefisto__what do I need to view flash swf (saved locally, not web content)03:28
BluesKajkkathman, I think 'Media Wrap" might work03:28
xsachaflash player03:28
kkathmanBluesKaj:  is that in the config for mplayer?03:29
xsachalibflash-swfplayer it's called mefisto__03:29
gnomefreakMon: this may not work but try sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop03:29
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Monnah same errors03:29
Moni'm thinking of reinstall too03:29
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BluesKajno kkathman, are you using FF2 ?03:30
kkathmanBluesKaj:  Yeppers I am03:30
kkathmanThis was working ok under in SuSE03:30
kkathmanbut I thought I had to use kmplayer03:31
kkathmanI dont see how thats configured tho03:31
mefisto__xsacha: I have that, but get an error in totem movie player - no plugin03:31
BluesKajhang on kkathman , i'll find the url for the beta version03:31
xsachait's a standalone player mefisto__03:31
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kkathmanthanx :)03:31
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BluesKajkkathman, http://www.box.net/public/gqrm6lzeou03:33
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arvind_How do I re-configure my locales03:34
BluesKajkkathman, media wrap enables FF to use whatever media player is required by the website as long as it is installed on your system03:34
arvind_dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't seem tow work when I invoke it.03:34
kkathmanBluesKaj:  ahh ok thanx -  you just download it and then how to install?03:34
wombat_what's the command to search for a file?03:35
BluesKajkkathman, once it'dl  use the "open with " and click on FF in the menu03:35
BluesKajit'll self insatll03:35
mefisto__xsacha: what's the player's name?03:35
kkathmanahh ok03:35
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xsachamefisto__: do you have swf-player ?03:37
mefisto__I just installed it03:37
xsacharun it :)03:38
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kkathmanBluesKaj:  Well that didnt work either  :(  it brings up mplayer inline, but the video link appears and they I get a "stopped" message03:40
mefisto__what am I running? what's it called?03:40
BluesKajsorry kkathman, that's beyond my expertise03:41
kkathmanthats kewl.. I appreciate the help :)03:41
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Emessanyone know how to setup a casio QV-R61 digital camera? when i plug it in ubuntu doesnt even see it03:50
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Emessnevermind, digikam found it :)03:51
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gsuvegRiddell: are you here ?03:53
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livingdaylightWe Will We Will Rock You!03:55
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ricaneliteHow do i install the plugins so my movie player could read mp4 files03:56
marius_I am stiil having problem with my mouse which freezes after several minutes03:57
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marius_i am using a laptop with edgy and only my usb mouse stops functioning03:57
marius_the laptop pad works fine03:57
livingdaylightwow, just installed Kubuntu Edgy!03:57
gsuveglivingdaylight: congrats03:58
andreravlivingdaylight: good choice03:58
livingdaylightthx, Guys!03:58
Jucatowelcome to the edge!03:58