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swanflwhat repository do I have to add to get amarok 1.4.4?12:15
adz21cswanfl: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144/ edgy main12:15
mzliwildchild: dpkg -i [package name]       install12:15
swanflthanks adz12:15
swanfl:)12:15
darkkish_i want somethign similar to kasbar but better looking or something12:15
adz21cnp :)12:15
mzliwildchild: dpkg -r [package name]          remove12:15
darkkish_can kasbar be skinned?12:16
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darkkish_i don't like how you can see part of my background below all of the icons12:17
darkkish_i want something to atleast dim the screen where more icons would appear12:17
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darkkish_?12:19
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darkkish_nobody knows about kasbar?12:21
Black5un!yum12:22
ubotuyum: Advanced front-end for rpm. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.0-3.1 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 960 kB12:22
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darkkish_?12:23
Black5un!kasbar12:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kasbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:23
Black5unnope12:23
darkkish_ok it comes with kde12:24
darkkish_and if you right click on your task bar12:24
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darkkish_and go to somtehing like new task bar > kasbar12:24
darkkish_i want something simliar to that but i want it to look nicer12:24
Black5uni use console12:24
darkkish_...12:24
Black5unno gui12:24
Black5un<--old skool12:24
darkkish_lol then why are you in kubuntu?12:24
darkkish_#kubuntu12:24
Black5unjust checking it out12:25
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Black5unso far centos was the best for me12:25
kkathmanoddd... wonder why kicker takes up so much cpu?12:26
kkathmanhmm seems like it should just more or less sit there :)12:26
darkkish_me too damn12:26
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swanflis there a way to write a music file out to a wav within Amarok?12:29
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chxI have a black-and-white image and I would like to change white to transparent12:30
TheDebuggerSince when #ubuntu became #gimp? :P12:30
swanflwhat program are you using, chx?12:30
TheDebuggerOr #AdobePhotoshop :)12:30
chxerm I am looking at kolourpaint12:31
chxbut I suspect this is doable by the ways of convert of imagemagick fame12:31
swanfldo you have the gimp?12:31
swanflhehe12:31
chxgimp...? hardly.12:31
swanflwhat can I say, debugger, it's good :)12:31
darkkish_does anyone know an alternitave for kasbar?12:31
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chxgimp always always scared the shit out of me12:31
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swanflscared why?12:31
chxI am a PHP coder not a graph wizard12:31
chxkolourpaint does what I need12:32
chxwhich is about 99.5% of the time is 'flip, rescale, save'12:32
swanfloic12:32
swanflthe gimp is a pwerful tool12:33
swanflpowerful too :)12:33
swanfland useful12:33
chxI know and powerful means a learning curve which I do not really do not want to climb ...12:33
swanflis kolourpaint the only graphics experience you have?12:34
chxconvert -transparent white seal_small.png seal_small2.png12:35
chx:)12:35
chxgimp would be the thermonuclear flyswatter to do the same12:35
swanflnot really12:35
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swanfljust a few steps :)12:35
FFForevercan i get wobbly windows on my ATI Readon XPRESS 200M 5955?12:35
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FFForeveryes, no, maybe?12:37
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darkkish_does anyone know an alternitave for kasbar?12:44
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tripshello to all12:47
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tripsanyone out there?12:48
apokryphoshi trips12:48
apokryphos!anyone12:48
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:48
tripshows it going ?12:48
daveyes im out here12:48
kkathmanyo apokryphos :)12:48
tripslol hello mate12:49
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tripswhere's everyone from then?12:49
apokryphostrips: good, all well. And yourself?12:49
apokryphosI'm from London12:49
kkathmantrips:  from Texas here :)12:49
apokryphoshey kkathman12:49
davenew to this linux stuff.im in lancashire UK12:49
tripsyeah im not to bad.. Really bored tho.. Chattin out of Kidderminster UK12:49
tripsBut im from Wales, and study in Newcastle12:50
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kkathmanHawkwind:  Im up around Dallas..u ?12:51
davejust found this in a new install of Kubuntu....will use again12:51
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kkathmanapokryphos:  I guess I never realized you were from London.. my close colleague hails from Newcastle :)12:52
davewhat you guys using12:52
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tripsi know this is a real newb question... But im running Breezy Badger still.. whats the easiest way 'using apt' to install the latest stable release of Kubuntu?12:52
apokryphosdave: Kubuntu Edgy and openSUSE 10.212:52
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apokryphostrips: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic12:52
apokryphoskkathman: yup, always in London 8)12:52
trips:D cheers butt12:52
Hawkwindkkathman: I'm in Katy, about 2 minutes outside of Houston12:52
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kkathmanI see12:52
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HailandKillIs Kubuntu meant to take friggin ages to boot on it's first boot...?12:53
kkathmanbrb12:54
tripshmm not really12:54
davei just save all i need to a flash drive and start from scratch with the new distro12:54
tripsyou recon thats the best way to upgrade? i've heard upgrading via apt can be abit dodgy sometimes12:54
tripsi'm not to kean on having to reinstall all the packages ive got12:54
HailandKillOh. Hasn't done much. It's got a little kubuntu logo, and apparently it has restarted the system log12:54
daveyes ive had a few probs that way12:55
HailandKillnothing else has been reported for several min.12:55
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tripsHow stable is Dapper/Feisty?? I'm still on Breezy, and i find this to be alright, although my system seems to crash at least 2/3 times a day, surely this cant be right, Linux is usually meant to be incredibly stable12:55
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karmikazelupine_85: still around?12:56
daveim just a geek and dont mind redownloading the packages12:56
karmikazeanyone using those lupine nvidia drivers?12:56
lupine_85yeah12:56
lupine_85'sup?12:56
karmikazeah12:56
karmikazeok so ive followed the steps on the site12:56
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karmikazebut when i do the enable, it still complains about the kernel12:57
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karmikazeyou mentioned something about uninstall12:57
lupine_85mm12:57
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karmikazedo i manually need to remove something before getting your packages12:57
lupine_85just the nvidia driver package with the --uninstall option12:57
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karmikazecan you tell me the command you mean, im not quite sure12:57
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HailandKillOkay.. I'm installing the AMD 64 version of Dapper, from DVD, onto an Aspire 5050 laptop... I must have done seomthing wrong.. since it obviously isn't booting correctly.12:58
HailandKillI chose the text install and everything seemed to go well, the start kubuntu or install option on the boot menu didn't work. Hung at boot.12:58
lupine_85just ./<NVIDIA-INSTALLER>.run --uninstall12:58
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lupine_85I don't have the name of the nvidia installer file in my memory, however12:58
karmikazeok ty, i will try12:58
HailandKill*Acer Aspire, that is.12:58
davettfn12:59
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: Kubuntu Support Channel | Feisty Herd 1 Released | Edgy has Landed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage"
=== Topic (#kubuntu): set by Schuenemann at Sat Dec 9 23:36:15 2006
(karmikaze/#kubuntu) cheers lupine_8501:11
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(karmikaze/#kubuntu) ick01:12
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karmikazestupid netsplit01:12
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karmikaze...01:12
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karmikazewhich side am i on!?01:12
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lupine_85this side :p01:12
karmikazelol01:12
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Ace2016Hi all01:12
Ace2016Where do i get openoffice 2.1?01:12
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HymnToLifeAce2016, http://www.openoffice.org01:13
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Ace2016but i want it from a repo01:13
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lupine_85!info openoffice.org feisty01:13
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lupine_85!botsnack01:14
lupine_85nooooooooo! ubotu!01:14
linx-its gone01:14
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lupine_85:'(01:14
linx-ubotu was booted01:14
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Ace2016by who?01:14
lupine_85:'( :'(01:14
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ubotuopenoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB01:14
linx-or not..01:14
Ace2016how can you kick a bot out?01:14
linx-it is listed01:14
ubotuYum!01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about was booted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
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lupine_85phew :)01:15
karmikaze:O01:15
linx-i saw ubotu fly out of the channel earlier, with the split01:15
karmikazehehe01:15
lupine_85!info openoffice.org edgy01:15
ubotuopenoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB01:15
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linx-but appearently it got back :)01:15
lupine_85!info openoffice.org feisty01:15
ubotuopenoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB01:15
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lupine_85nah, not in feisty either01:15
darkkish_hey01:15
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darkkish_i need help again01:15
darkkish_no no don't give me !ask01:15
darkkish_i'm getting there...01:15
HymnToLife!ask01:16
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:16
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darkkish_Ok so in kde you can right click the task bar and add an "external task bar"01:16
Ace2016what would have been funny was if lots pf people did !ask streight away01:16
sirajhello01:16
Ace2016Hi01:16
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sirajhows it goin'01:17
HymnToLifedarkkish_, yeah, AFAIK the feature was too much user-confusing01:17
HymnToLifeso it was remove from GNOME01:17
darkkish_ok well01:18
darkkish_i have that working but01:18
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darkkish_i want the bottom task bar to show only the tasks on my current desktop01:18
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darkkish_and the top menu to show ALL of my apps01:18
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JucatoI don't think that's possible. there's only one setting that controls all taskbars01:19
Jucato(taskbar applets)01:20
oemwell i finally got Root to work01:20
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oemwith kubuntu01:20
linx-i have two problems with kweather (2.1.0): one is, i have the kweater panel applet running.. but it won't give weather info for any station i select in the list.. just will default to the non-existent weather station 0000.. and bug me about the requested weather station being unknown.01:20
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oemanyone know how i can get a cpu/ram monitor on my desktop running all the time?01:21
oemand the weather etc.01:21
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bluebunnyDarkkish: right click any empty space on the panel, click configure panel, click the taskbar button on the left, and uncheck "show windows from all desktops."01:22
farionhello01:22
darkkish_so there is no way to do what i want to do Jucato01:22
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oemno because jews suck01:22
oemlol01:22
Jucatodarkkish_: none that I know of01:22
Jucatooem: please refrain from making comments like that. thanks01:22
farionthere are only two items in my kcontrol (feisty) - how can i get kcontrol back?01:22
oemk01:23
HymnToLife!coc | oem01:23
ubotuoem: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/01:23
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RugI have tried to upgrade from dapper to edgy 3 times now, and each time Kde becomes an unstable mess.  If I nuke everything and install Edgy fresh can I expect more KDE stability?01:23
siraj /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>01:23
HymnToLifesiraj, thank Whoever you didn't put your real pw here ;)01:24
jbruckmanRug: Yeah, I use Kubuntu Edgy, and it works OK for me.01:24
bluebunnyRug: not sure, but probably.01:24
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jbruckmanRug: but i had a lot of problems at first, most of which due to audio(my hardware is a bit...customized though)01:24
Rugok, thanks for the warning01:24
HymnToLifeRug, yeah, a clean install is definitely far less troublesmone than an upgrade01:25
jbruckmanRug: yeah. every problem i've ever had with ubuntu has regarded hardware recognition.01:25
jbruckmanRug: Fedora never had that problem with my hardware, but it had other problems...01:25
RugI love KDE apps and back-end (DCOP) but I hate it as a WM, so I usually use Fluxbox as my WM on top of kde backend.01:26
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RugHymnToLife: to flux or rpm?01:27
fariondoes nobody knows, how to get kcontrol back?01:27
HymnToLifeto RPM01:27
HymnToLifeI'm a KDE die-hard since 1999 so I can't agree wqith you on Flux :p01:27
kkathmanfarion:  just alt-f2 and type kcontrol01:27
kkathmanthen edit your k-menu and replace system settings with kcontrol if you want01:27
HymnToLife@time Paris01:28
UbugtuCurrent time in Europe/Paris: December 22 2006, 01:28:1401:28
HymnToLifedamn01:28
HymnToLifeI need to go to bed01:28
farioni know howto start kcontrol, but kcontrol is empty - there are only two useless entries01:28
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kkathmanodd01:28
HymnToLifefarion, looks like an issue we had in Debian a while ago01:28
kkathmanits full on my system01:28
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Jucatofarion: tried reinstalling it? sudo apt-get install --reinstall kcontrol01:28
farionallready done01:29
RugThank-god for RedHat though, without them a lot of peeps would have never had a chance to try linux.  My first experience was RedHat v5.2, it came on floppies.  Worked ok on my 386DX40, but there were no apps, so it only lasted a week.01:29
HymnToLifefarion, do all the KControl modules appear in Lost & Found ?01:29
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HymnToLifeRug, my first was Debian Slink, we already had CDs then :p01:29
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jbruckman@time chicago01:29
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UbugtuCurrent time in America/Chicago: December 21 2006, 18:29:5901:30
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farionyou mean K->Lost&Found (Nicht zuzuordnen)01:30
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HymnToLifefarion, yep01:30
darkkish_so are there places where you can download new apps? like a secondary taskbar app that shows all of the taskbars at once?01:31
darkkish_even if your other task bar app only shows the taskbar on that desktop space01:31
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farionyes, there are a lot of the missing items01:31
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darkkish_lol01:32
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farionbut not complete - i think - changing the theme is missing01:33
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SyathGah, I'm still trying to figure out how to install .tar.gz files01:33
oemo01:33
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SyathI know how to install them in synaptic01:33
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ironfroggy_LTi have plugged in my new camera to the USB port, which took me to system:/media/camera and it lists two directories there. if i click either, it just takes me to system:/media/camera/camera which lists the same two directories as unknown types of files, not directories.01:33
ironfroggy_LTany idea here?01:33
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bluebunnySyath: tar -xvf tarfile.tar01:34
farionis there a fix for the kcontrol-problem?01:35
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LinuxTechnicianso whats shakin01:35
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LinuxTechnicianjesus lol01:36
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HymnToLifefarion, which Ubuntu verison are you using ?01:36
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farionfeisty01:37
bluebunnyWhat is up with everybody joining the channel at the same time?01:37
jbruckmanlol01:37
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jbruckman?01:37
jbruckmani think something got reset server end.01:37
HymnToLifefarion, all right, try this :      sudo cp /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications-merged/kde-essential.menu /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged01:38
HymnToLifewe had the same bug in Debian a while ago01:38
jbruckmanhaha, ok01:38
jbruckmani'm out. ciao01:38
Jucatothat would be strange... as #debian is on OFTC... while we're on Freenode... coincidence? or conspiracy? :P01:38
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farionkde-essential.menu is allready in /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged01:39
HymnToLifeJucato, that was for farion (and there's a #debian on FN too)01:39
HymnToLifefarion, hmm01:39
Jucatoah01:39
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farionand kde-essential.menu does not exist01:39
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HymnToLifemake up your mind, either it's in /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged or it does not exist01:40
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farionlocate only shows /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/kde-essential.menu01:41
HymnToLifeso maybe that's your problem because the file list for kdebase-data in feisty says it shoud be in /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications-merged/01:43
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farionapt-file says this too - i have this problem on three machines with a new installation01:44
HymnToLifetry reinstalling kdebase-data01:44
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HymnToLifeand if it doesn't work, well, you'll have to copy all the files manually01:45
HymnToLifeand maybe you should file a bug for it01:45
fariondid not work01:46
HymnToLife!bug01:46
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots01:46
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farionyear - "cp /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/kde-essential.menu /etc/xdg/menus/kde-application-merged" works01:47
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(izauro/#kubuntu) como le hago?01:50
(HymnToLife/#kubuntu) !es | izauro01:50
(ubotu/#kubuntu) izauro: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.01:50
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(izauro/#kubuntu) ok01:51
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deviantNeeding help, Keep getting this error when I try to sudo make all make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.01:52
lupine_85what it says01:53
lupine_85that directory should be a symlink to your kernel's headers01:53
lupine_85so presumably you don't have linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386 installed01:53
deviantI downloaded the linux source same thing?01:53
lupine_85linux source != linux headers01:54
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DarkWizdomalmost the same*01:55
darkkish_how can i make the dock application bar smaller?01:55
lupine_85DarkWizdom: linux-headers is a couple of config files and a lot of symlinks...01:55
DarkWizdomyes, so they are not same as source :|01:56
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campbchwhat's a good p2p program like amule or whatever that doesn't deal with lowids and such?01:57
deviantOkay, Downloaded the linux headers make all worked.. Now I can't mkdir o.O01:58
deviantlol sorry abit of a n00b at this stuff.01:58
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Teslacampbch: its a generally a lame question02:01
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farionhow can i start guidance-power-manager?02:01
Omnifrogis there an Xlogical package for kubuntu?02:02
darkkish_xlogical?02:03
Omnifrogthe game Xlogical02:03
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deviantlol How do you edit stuff with vi?02:05
bluebunnyOmnifrog: I just did a search in Synaptic and couldn't find Xlogical.02:05
Omnifrogya, me too02:05
darkkish_farion: type it into run or konsole02:05
Omnifrogthats why i asked in here02:05
bluebunnyOmnifrog: what kind of game is it?02:06
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xwolf-!wav02:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:07
Omnifrogits cool. balls come out and you move them around. it's better then an orgasem02:07
Jucatodeviant: just use nano... :P02:07
lupine_85!vi02:07
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code02:07
farionguidance-power-manager shows this error in a terminal power-manager: ERROR: Communication problem with power-manager, it probably chrashed.02:07
lupine_85lol, that's useful02:07
lupine_85vi has edit and command moders02:07
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lupine_85takes some getting used to02:08
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xwolf-i'm having problems playing a particular wav file... codecs missing?02:08
Jucatotakes *a lot* of getting used to :)02:08
lupine_85Jucato: that too :p02:08
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deviantAnyone in here ever try to set up a Linksys Wireless PCI card?02:22
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darkkishyeah i have02:23
darkkishi never got it to work though02:23
darkkishsorry02:23
darkkishi really like xubuntu02:23
darkkishyou can have a panel at the top that shows ALL of the running apps02:23
darkkishand at the same time have one at the bottom that only shows the current running apps02:23
darkkisher02:23
darkkishthe apps on that desktop02:23
Jucatothat's a "minimize to icon" feature. not really a taskbar02:24
CMeKillMyRouteryou can do that with kubuntu too02:24
CMeKillMyRouteriirc02:24
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darkkishwhat Jucato?02:27
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darkkishCMeKillMyRouter: how can i do that in kubuntu?02:27
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hananhow could I copy the window manager theme of kubuntu to somewhere else (crystal theme)02:27
hanan?02:27
darkkishand Jucato it is not a miminize to icon feature, its a taskbar.02:28
Jucatohanan: it's a package: kwin-style-crystal02:28
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Jucatodarkkish: oh ok. not really familiar with Xubuntu lately02:28
hananJucato: do you know where it installs to?02:29
darkkishCMeKillMyRouter: you there?02:29
hananor how can I list the files installed by a package?02:30
Jucatohanan: it's not just a simple configuration file. it installs plugins/small programs (.so). so it's not a simple matter of copying it from one machine to another02:30
hananah02:30
Jucatoinstalling a window decoration is like installing a program02:30
Jucatohanan: you can just download the kwin-style-crystal.deb file and install it on another machine, though02:31
hananJucato: assuming the other machine runs debian/derivitive02:31
Jucatoyep02:31
hananJucato: but thanks very muchly =)02:31
Jucatootherwise, you'd have to compile the source code...02:31
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Jucatohanan: as for theother question, how to se files installed by a package: dpkg -L <packagename>02:32
CMeKillMyRouteryes02:34
CMeKillMyRouterI'm there02:34
CMeKillMyRouterbut I don't know how02:34
CMeKillMyRouterI'm killing my router and trying to talk to my ISP02:34
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CMeKillMyRoutertheir DNS resolvers are down02:34
CMeKillMyRouteror one of them is02:34
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darkkishyeah xubuntu is my new favorite lappy OS02:40
darkkishsorry kubuntu lol02:40
CMeKillMyRouteryes it's good for laptops02:41
CMeKillMyRouterkubuntu for desktops02:41
CMeKillMyRouterhowever kubuntu will be on my Dell XPS02:41
darkkishyeah02:42
darkkishxubuntu is just nice because this is only a 750Mhz pIII with 512MB of 133Mhz ram02:42
darkkishsad no?02:42
darkkishbut i like it02:42
CMeKillMyRouterhey I ran KUBUNTU on a 300 MHZ02:43
darkkishhaha i'm not saying its impossible02:43
CMeKillMyRouter(it had 512 MB ram tho)02:43
darkkishi actually kindof like the layout of xubuntu more02:43
CMeKillMyRouter;-)02:43
darkkishfor some things02:43
darkkishnot for all things02:43
Teslahehe. you wount believe but i installed kubuntu on 188 MHz Pentium MMX02:44
darkkishlol why?02:44
darkkisharchaic02:44
darkkishdamn02:44
darkkishwhy is there no heat :(02:44
darkkishi'm getting no heat in my apt02:44
Jucatohmm....02:44
darkkishits freaking freezing mr bigglesworth02:44
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darkkishoh well back to doing what i was doing before02:44
darkkishrewriting the ending to romeo and juliet02:44
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darkkishjucato would you like me to send you a screeny?02:45
Jucatodarkkish: please?02:45
darkkish mk02:45
Brokenrgvhiya ppl anyone have probs with amarok mtp support after the latet open office patch?  sounds weird i know02:45
TeslaBrokenrgv: what is mtp ?02:46
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darkkishi'm getting a konversation error02:46
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darkkish"cannot talk to klauncher"02:46
Jucato:O02:46
darkkishi assume thats bevcause i'm not currently running kde02:46
Jucatodarkkish: hm.. imageshack?02:47
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darkkishumm02:47
darkkishyeah02:47
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darkkishi guess02:47
Tesladarkkish: unregistered users cant talk privatly02:47
Brokenrgvsome microsoft thing that mp3 players like creatives zen visiom m use02:47
Brokenrgvther eis i aamarok irc chat isnt there02:47
TeslaBrokenrgv: oh i see. dont have it.02:47
JucatoBrokenrgv: yes. #amarok02:48
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darkkishwhat tesla?02:49
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Tesladarkkish: you are unregistered on irc here. so you cant talk privatly with ppl02:50
darkkishi forgot my stupid photobucket account/passworfd02:50
darkkishtesla i'm not trying to talk privately with anyone...02:50
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Tesladarkkish: use www.imageshack.us02:50
Tesla;-)02:50
karmikazecompiz or beryl??02:50
karmikazeberyl is the cube right02:50
TheDebuggerCompiz == beryl02:51
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TheDebuggerBeryl is a fork02:51
TheDebuggerberyl is the future ;)02:51
darkkishhttp://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1088/screenshottl1.png02:51
darkkish@ Jucato02:51
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karmikazeok02:52
Jucatodarkkish: thanks. opening now02:52
karmikazeberyl ftw then02:52
darkkishkarmikaze: see thats what i've been trying to do02:52
karmikazeooh02:52
darkkishkarmikaze: i ended up doing it in xubuntu instead02:52
karmikazehrm02:52
Jucatodarkkish: oh kool. let me try to see if it can be done in KDE :)02:52
darkkishkk02:53
islsm_usb!xinerama02:53
ubotuxinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo02:53
RoboMooreWhy don't you message scry that command next time?02:53
RoboMoorehmmm02:53
RoboMooreerrors in system02:53
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izaurohello02:54
izauroi need help02:54
izauroi need configure my card02:54
izaurosound card02:54
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izauroanybody can help me?02:55
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izaurois anybody here?02:56
ForgeAushey all02:56
ForgeAussup?02:56
izauroanybody can help me?02:56
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ForgeAusizauro, just ask what your problem is, not sure I will know the answer tho02:57
izaurook02:57
izauroi need configurate my sound card02:57
ForgeAuserm I think its configure, but anyhow, go on02:57
izauromy sound card is Analog Device AD1981b02:57
ForgeAusdoesn't sound familiar, but are you getting an error message? or can you not find a driver?02:58
izaurowell02:58
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izaurothe system it recognize me how INTEL ICH502:59
izauromy sound card is Analog Device AD1981b not INTEL ICH502:59
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izaurothe sound is very bad03:00
karmikazewhat issues did you have darkkish_03:00
ForgeAuscan you do a search on google or something to find the right driver?03:00
karmikazewho wants to put down a success percent of being able to install beryl :P03:00
darkkish_with what karmikaze?03:00
ForgeAusit may be more difficult, as in a tarball to install :(03:00
karmikaze40% chance i'll install it and itll work?03:00
karmikaze20%?03:01
izaurook03:01
izauroi will return winxp03:01
ForgeAuskarm... lol no idea03:01
bluebunnyIzauro: I'd help, but I don't really know much about configuring sound.  All I can say is, try poking around in System Settings.03:01
ForgeAusI havn't tried it03:01
ForgeAusizauro.. why? can't you browse inside your *nix box?)03:01
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karmikazeheh03:01
karmikazelets put it this way, anyone here have beryl working in kubuntu?03:02
izauroubuntu is very dificult for me03:02
ForgeAuswow how'd I add gnome to my kubuntu?03:02
ForgeAusit wasn't there before03:02
darkkish_i'm going to go afk for about 30 or 35 minutes03:02
lupine_85karmikaze: I use it :)03:02
darkkish_if you need me pm me03:02
karmikazeheh03:02
bluebunnyLuckily, sound just works for me.03:02
ForgeAuskarmi there is a repository to install it from within adept03:02
lupine_8580% chance of it working, overall :)03:02
koryberyl works great in Kubuntu03:02
karmikazeok cool03:02
ForgeAusbrows the net I can't remmeber hte page but you can find it03:02
karmikazei'll give it a go then :)03:02
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karmikazeive got kubuntu to a nice state, just wondering if i should risk breaking it already lol03:02
lupine_85see the wiki for a full installation guide03:02
ForgeAusjust remember kubuntu already has one of those abbrevs installed into it03:02
ForgeAusXFG or something03:03
ForgeAusthat beryl needs03:03
lupine_85wiki.beryl-project.org03:03
karmikazeyeah lookin at the wiki now :)03:03
izauroi speak spanish03:03
ForgeAusXUG03:03
lupine_85!es03:03
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:03
lupine_85:)03:03
ForgeAussome kinda tla anyhow03:03
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ForgeAus(tla = three letter acronym if you didn't already know)03:03
ForgeAusand I'm sure there was an x in there somewhere for this particular one03:03
ForgeAuseverythings different in gnome! um how do I extend a partition without unmounting it?03:04
izauroi prefer winxp03:04
ForgeAus(theres space to extend it into03:04
izauroi prefer gates03:04
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izaurono its true03:05
izaurojjeje03:05
ForgeAusizauro thats fair, but I'd like you to consider trying to get used to your linux box03:05
izauroits not true03:05
ForgeAusor whatever installation you are using for ubuntu03:05
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bluebunnyTorvalds all the way, baby.03:05
ForgeAuswell the point of being free is more than enough for me lol03:05
ForgeAusand I hate working around wga03:06
ForgeAusI mean its ok for windows defender just use the -qr switch!03:06
ForgeAusbut for ie7 and wmp11 its a pain03:06
CMeKillMyRouterwga is such a pain what were they thinking :(03:07
ForgeAusstill I have to admit I'm currently using vmware to run my Kubuntu! rofl03:07
ForgeAusthey were thinking of protecting their investment, its all about the money and licenses03:07
CMeKillMyRouterwell tis a pain for AVERAGE USERS03:07
CMeKillMyRoutermy mom even said "they think I'm some criminal?"03:08
CMeKillMyRoutershammmmme.03:08
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ForgeAusum technically03:08
ForgeAusif you didn't pay for windowsXP you ARE a criminal03:09
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darkkish_whatg the hellllllll03:09
darkkish_theres no heat03:09
ForgeAusbut the fact that you are is rediculous imho..03:09
darkkish_OR HOT WATER03:09
darkkish_-_-03:09
CMeKillMyRoutersmooth criminal03:09
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bluebunnySome people are of the opinion that computers shouldn't have passwords.03:09
ForgeAuslol CMe03:10
ForgeAuspersonally I find ReactOS interesting03:10
ForgeAuslol a free windows...03:10
ForgeAuswell its left in the dark ages but its still interesting03:10
darkkish_well i think comps should have passwords03:11
darkkish_but don't think you should have to get root to change the time on the clock03:11
ForgeAusI don't think they're necessary I believe they should be optional03:11
darkkish_i think people should just be more careful about locking thier computers when they walk away03:11
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darkkish_and the only time you shoudl have to type it, is when logging on, or unlocking03:11
Jucatodarkkish_: you need admin privs to change the time on the clock, because setting the wrong time could mess up the system (like sudo)03:12
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darkkish_-_-03:12
darkkish_well why can't i always be su?03:12
Jucato!root | darkkish_03:12
ubotudarkkish_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:12
deviantw00t got Linksys wireless card working.03:12
bluebunnyI prefer wine if I actually need to run a Windoze program, but the only thing I ever use it for is Diablo II.03:12
ForgeAusdarkkish thats ecause you'd open yourself up to virus' etc that way03:13
BluesKajmaybe , maybe not , really passwords are at best a thin wall for predators , I'm talking about windoze of course :)03:13
ForgeAuslol diablo 2 interesting03:13
darkkish_sudo means03:13
Jucatowell, not really viruses, but more of crackers03:13
darkkish_superuser do03:13
darkkish_so why can't i always be super user03:13
ForgeAuswine's interesting itself actually03:13
darkkish_instead of constantly having to re su every time i change the simplest setting?03:13
ForgeAusis there any other windows layer program for *nix?... what does crossover office actually give you?03:13
darkkish_cedega, crossover, wine03:14
darkkish_thats all i know ove03:14
darkkish_of03:14
Jucatodarkkish_: on the command line, sudo will rememer your password for a few minutes (10 or 15, I think)03:14
deviantCedega is great is you wish to pay everymonth just to play your games.03:14
ForgeAuscedega?03:14
darkkish_no lol03:14
darkkish_its more like 2 minutes Jucato03:14
Jucatohm...03:14
ForgeAuscrossover is not free either03:14
darkkish_anyways have you figured out how to do what i want to do yet jucato?03:14
Jucatodarkkish_: "The password is stored by default for 15 minutes. After that time, you will need to enter your password again."03:14
darkkish_deviant: cedega is free03:15
deviantEh?03:15
Jucatothat's from the RootSudo page. you might want to read it03:15
darkkish_deviant: you only have to pay for support03:15
ForgeAusstill what does crossover let you do ?03:15
darkkish_you can find free versions of cedega though03:15
JucatoCedega CVS is free (and unsupported)03:15
deviantIs it outdated?03:15
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Jucatodarkkish_: haven't found a way yet. it's the 2nd thing that Xfce has over KDE, when it comes to customization03:15
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darkkish_yeah03:15
darkkish_um03:15
darkkish_idk03:15
darkkish_it runs wow on my desktop03:15
darkkish_perfectly03:15
darkkish_but it was a pain in the ass03:16
darkkish_you actually have to install the programs in cedega03:16
darkkish_you can't just run any already installed proggy03:16
darkkish_what is the first Jucato?03:16
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Jucatodarkkish_: the ability to make your own menus on the panel03:16
deviantHad Cedega at one time, It was kind of a pain... But if there's a free version I might have to rethink using my windows to play games heh.03:16
darkkish_ok shower has finally warmed up guys03:17
darkkish_i'll be back in a few03:17
bluebunnyLol.03:17
bluebunnyI should have said that when I went to Mcdonalds.03:18
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ForgeAushow do I grow the system partition?03:20
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ForgeAusI got space to grow it in but under gnome I need to unmount it... and thats not possible03:21
ForgeAusat least not if I'm booting off it03:21
bluebunnyTry from a rescue CD.03:22
islsm_usb.03:23
ForgeAuslike you mean use a live install?03:23
ForgeAusie my Kubuntu iso?03:23
ForgeAussorry live CD or whatever its called03:23
ForgeAusif I do that how do I run Gnome or QT partition editor?03:23
ForgeAusis it built into the liveCD?03:23
bluebunnyYeah, sort of, but they actually have Linux CDs with utilities on them just for that sort of thing.03:24
bluebunnyTry a google search for linux rescue cd.03:24
Admiral_ChicagoKnoppix is a good CD for that03:25
BluesKajrescue cd ? there's one in the grub03:25
ForgeAusahh I got one of them03:25
ForgeAuslessee03:25
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Admiral_Chicagoit's the best LiveCD03:25
ForgeAusknoppix5en right?03:26
CMeKillMyRouterknoppix is awesome :D03:26
ForgeAusI like kubuntu better...03:26
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ForgeAusbut knoppix is interesting... I think I messed it up somehow trying to change window managers tho03:26
bluebunnyhttp://www.sysresccd.org/03:27
ForgeAus(ended up wiht just a grey bar down the bottom that seemed to do nothing)03:27
karmikazeok beryl just went a bit crazy >_>03:27
DarkWizdomcannot start knoppix as it does not support booting from scsi drives -_-03:27
LathiatBeryl on crack: news at noon ;)03:27
karmikazelol03:28
ForgeAuswow nice URL03:28
Misfithm03:28
ForgeAusI aren't up to beryl yet03:28
karmikazeok beryl-manager kinda works i think03:28
karmikazehrmm03:28
MisfitWhy does 'Home' hide the '/.kde' folder?03:28
karmikazeok nice03:28
karmikazewhered all my titlebars go to?03:28
ForgeAuswhat do you mean kinda?03:28
karmikazewell i think its working03:28
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karmikazecept all my titlebars are gone03:28
Lathiatkarmikaze: you need to run a separate window decorator with beryl03:28
karmikazeooh03:28
Lathiati.e. emerald or some such03:28
karmikazeokie03:28
karmikazecheers03:28
Lathiator gtk-window-decorator, or whatever03:28
karmikazeta03:29
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ForgeAuswow nice!03:30
ForgeAusa decorator? um whats kde's decorator?03:30
ForgeAuscan you run that inside beryl?03:30
DarkWizdomO.o03:31
DarkWizdomsure you can :)03:31
Jucatoaquamarine for Beryl on KDE, afaik03:31
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ForgeAusgrrr I ran out of space I can't download the system rescue iso inside the drive I need more space in rofl!03:31
karmikazehrmm the theme isnt updating03:31
karmikazeemerald..03:31
ForgeAuswhat do you mean beryl ON kde?03:32
DarkWizdomForgeAus: what sise hdd do you have? :)03:32
ForgeAusI think my HDD is ide not scsi03:32
bluebunnysudo rm -rf /03:32
ForgeAusbut good to know about Knoppix and no scsi03:32
bluebunnyDon't type that.03:33
karmikazelol03:33
ForgeAusintersting that VMware like scsi tho03:33
ForgeAusI don't have any scsi devices! rofl03:33
DarkWizdomusb devises are regarded as scsi too03:33
DarkWizdomI meant them03:33
ForgeAusI think I'll d/l the iso in my host OS03:33
ForgeAus(ie WinXP)03:33
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DarkWizdom(I have external usb cd-rom)03:33
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ForgeAusis NeXTstep a VWM?03:35
ForgeAus(I mean for me I guess it'd be OpenSTEP or whatever but pretty much based on NeXTStep right?)03:35
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ForgeAus*nix is confusing lol03:36
ForgeAusmostly because theres so much choice03:36
DarkWizdomI would suggest sticking to one distro at first03:36
ForgeAuswell I'm basing myself around Kubuntu but I managed to gnomeize it! so its kinda kubuntu -> ubuntuized03:36
bluebunnyWeird.03:37
DarkWizdomlol03:37
karmikazemy emerald themes arent changing03:37
karmikazeany ideas?03:37
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ForgeAuskubuntu is my base install anyway03:37
karmikazeor is emerald only for gnome or something03:37
ForgeAuswhat is emerald anyway?03:37
karmikazeberyl theme manager03:37
fiendskull9karmikaze: emerald is for beryl03:37
fiendskull9yes03:37
Jucatokarmikaze: I think aquamarine is the decoration engine for Beryl on KDE03:37
fiendskull9beryl is the backend03:37
fiendskull9for the 3d stuff03:37
fiendskull9Jucato: correct03:38
ForgeAusyeah aquamarine sounds familiar03:38
karmikazeok i'll try getting aquamarine03:38
fiendskull9if u install beryl03:38
fiendskull9it should auto install emerald or AM03:38
DarkWizdomJucato: emerald works perfect too03:38
karmikazehrm03:38
JucatoDarkWizdom: then help karmikaze :)03:38
ForgeAusok in kdm (thats the login screen right?)... I can choose kde or gnome, is there more choices I can install into there?03:38
karmikazeeverything is working for beryl but the theme DarkWizdom03:38
karmikazeim going to try aquamarine03:39
JucatoForgeAus: as many window managers/desktop environments that you can install03:39
DarkWizdomkarmikaze03:39
DarkWizdomtry running03:39
karmikazeyeah DarkWizdom03:39
DarkWizdomberyl-manager03:39
karmikazeyep done03:39
DarkWizdomberyl-settings03:39
ForgeAusjucato so beryl (when I get my diskspace sorted out)03:39
karmikazeok03:39
JucatoForgeAus: Beryl is a bit more complicated03:39
karmikazeok03:39
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ForgeAusand possibly XFCE (xubuntu?) or the menu based one that only has the sleek black slider down the bottom...03:40
DarkWizdomemerald should be intalled03:40
karmikazeyeah DarkWizdom i see emerald03:40
karmikazeand i see the themes03:40
DarkWizdomand you change themes through beryl-manager03:40
karmikazebut they arent changing03:40
DarkWizdomhmm03:40
ForgeAusFVwM is oldskool right?03:40
karmikazeForgeAus: i used to LOOOOVE fvwm ;D03:41
ForgeAus(seems like windows-style is known as redmond?? in *nix FVwM was intended to be redmond-ish..)03:41
karmikazebut it takes ages to set up nicely03:41
ForgeAuskarmi, I had it in an ancient linux I installed once03:41
karmikazeheheh yeah03:41
DarkWizdomkarmikaze: try aquamarine then :D03:41
karmikazei had fvwm for years on gentoo03:41
ForgeAusbut the only thing I used that systme for was to play spider solitare! rofl03:41
ForgeAusberyl sounds interesting tho03:41
ForgeAuswhat other VWM's are good?03:42
ForgeAusany?03:42
ForgeAuswhats ICE vwm?03:42
ForgeAusand Windowmaker?03:42
karmikazeForgeAus: check this out! http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/5304724/03:42
karmikazemy old fvwm03:42
darkkish_hey what is the kde program that moniters your laptop battery?03:42
ForgeAuskewl DA :) I got some poetry up on that site03:43
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bluebunnyI remember when the desktop could be larger than the screen and you could scroll to the right or left.03:43
sparrwho is responsible for the web design at kubuntu.org?03:43
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darkkish_why?03:44
ForgeAussparr, that sounds ominous03:44
darkkish_it looks like a wiki template to me03:44
Hobbseesparr: Riddell, kwwii03:44
HobbseeRiddell: what about it?03:44
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sparrjust wanted to point out that the top left logo can be overlapped by the top right tabs, they should probably be set to break (to a new line) if that happens03:45
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JucatoCSS stuff...03:45
sparraye03:45
Jucatotrue, if you're browser is not wide enough. although the logo itself is the only one covered, the work "Kubuntu" isn't03:46
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sparrdepends on how tall the tabs are03:46
ForgeAusis arklinux any good?03:46
ForgeAusI think I might ditch my knoppix03:47
ForgeAusand try something else instead03:47
ForgeAus(can always remake03:47
ForgeAusanyway I better reboot to a Partition editor... bbl03:47
sparri see them covering the text too03:47
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bluebunnySparr: I had to make the window very small to break things.  Of course, I'm running at 1680 X 1050.03:49
sparrim running 1280x102403:49
sparrbut i have large fonts03:50
JucatoI'm running on 1024x768, and I have to make it really narrow to do that03:50
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BluesKajsparr, yer scrn must be really big or ya have yer fonts cranked up03:51
darkkish_well now this is a problem i never thought i would have03:51
darkkish_i installed flash via FireFox03:51
sparrBluesKaj: fonts about 2x average size03:51
darkkish_and i'm getting audio just fine03:51
karmikazehrmm kicker has disapeared03:52
darkkish_but video isn't reaslly working03:52
BluesKajyup, darkkish_ , it's the best way03:52
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karmikazehow do i turn off beryl?03:52
Jucatokarmikaze: maybe the gusy in #ubuntu-xgl would know03:53
Kr4t05karmikaze: 1. This isn't beryl. 2. Right click the beryl-manager icon in your tray and set the Window Manager to Kwin03:53
bluebunnySparr: I'm glad that at least some people consider such things, but I've seen a lot worse sites.03:53
BluesKajsudo apt-get remove beryl :) ... just kidding of course03:53
Kr4t05#beryl*, rather03:53
karmikazebut kicker disapeared Kr4t0503:53
karmikazeanyway im in xgl03:54
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Kr4t05karmikaze: ALT-F2 -> killall -9 beryl; kwin --replace03:54
darkkish_ok i guess video is working03:54
darkkish_just not on my friends myspace XD03:54
darkkish_sush :X03:54
karmikazekk03:54
karmikazethats better03:55
Kr4t05Ok, I have a unique TV out situation.03:55
CMeKillMyRouterkill03:55
bluebunnySparr: I also increase my font size a lot, and it really bothers me when it breaks a page.03:55
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sparri dont consider 2x to be a lot03:56
bluebunnyNor do I.03:56
brandonok i have a question about editing fstab. I have done it in the past but now when i give the command ' sudo kate /etc/fstab ' it gives me an error03:57
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WineManhmm03:57
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sparrbrandon: root probably doesnt have permission to send to your X server03:57
bluebunnyBrandon: try emacs, vi, or nano.03:58
sparrbrandon: try kdesu instead of sudo03:58
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cellofellowelmer: hello03:58
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brandonyeah it says something about x server but i did it in the past i don't know why it won't work. hold on i'll try this stuff03:59
elmerhey, cellofellow03:59
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bluebunnyMythbusters left?  Hey, I watch that show.04:01
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brandonok i got it. See I was running the su command THEN trying to run sudo kate. It works now04:01
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bluebunnyWow, Mythbusters is back.04:02
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brandonnow i have two hard drives connected to this computer but i can write to the secondary one. Can i change it so I can write to it in fstab or am I going to have to do something with permissions somewhere else04:04
bluebunnyBrandon: as far as I know, you should be able to do this in fstab.04:05
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elmeranyone know how to make wifi work on Acer Aspire 3502 with Atheros chip, kubuntu edgy?04:05
brandonright now it looks like this: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/Backup ext3 user,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 004:06
cellofellow!anyone04:06
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:06
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DarkWizdom"See I was running the su command THEN trying to run sudo kate" :D04:07
DarkWizdomelmer: you need madwifi drivers04:07
brandonwhat can I change to make it writeable to anyone? and yeah i'm a noob sorry about that.04:07
elmerDarkwizdom: then it just works?04:08
bluebunnyI wish I knew. I'm a little rusty.04:08
DarkWizdom"and yeah i'm a noob sorry about that" not at all, was just funny :)04:08
DarkWizdomelmer: usually yes :)04:08
cellofellowbrandon: my fstab just says defaults in the options list for my secondary hdd.04:09
brandonDarkWizdom: i thought it would have the same out put. I guess not.04:10
cellofellowif it matches the / partition it should just work.04:10
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DarkWizdombrandon: try mounting like this /media/hda9 vfat umask=000 0 004:11
DarkWizdomBUT04:11
DarkWizdomthis is my fstab04:11
DarkWizdomconvert it so that it matches yours04:11
brandonI tried defaults in the options and it still says access denied and ok i'll try that04:12
DarkWizdomtry ;)04:12
elmerDarkWizdom; I have the linux-restricted-modules package installed, which claims to include madwifi. ifconfig shows both ath0: and wifi0:, both UP04:12
cellofellowwhat are the permissions of the accessing files?04:12
Jucatowhat filesystem type is it?04:13
brandonext304:13
DarkWizdomelmer: hm... but wifi doesn't work still?04:13
brandonand i don't know the permissions of the files04:13
DarkWizdomelmer: is etc/network/interfaces configured properly?04:13
brandonDarkWizdom: i don't want to sound horriblably bad at this but i don't know quite where to put what you just sent me in fstab04:15
DarkWizdomok04:15
DarkWizdompaste your fstab please04:15
DarkWizdom!pastebin04:15
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:15
brandonpaste it in pastebin then? not on here?04:16
DarkWizdomwell, you can paste here too...04:17
DarkWizdompastebin lookes nice :D04:17
bluebunnyIt couldn't be that long. Just paste it here.04:17
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DarkWizdomok04:17
brandon# /etc/fstab: static file system information.04:18
brandon#04:18
brandon# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>04:18
brandonproc /proc proc defaults 0 004:18
brandon/dev/hda1 / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 104:18
brandon/dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 004:18
brandon/dev/hdd1 /mnt/Backup ext3 defults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 004:18
Tesla:-) WARNING! LONG POST DETECTED :-)04:18
DarkWizdom:D04:18
bluebunnyLol.04:18
darkkish_ is kritia good04:19
darkkish_ is krita good?04:19
Jucato!pastebin | brandon04:19
ubotubrandon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:19
Jucatonext time...04:19
cellofellowkritia is ok04:19
bluebunnyNo.04:20
bluebunnyI prefer the Gimp.04:20
darkkish_mk04:20
Jucatohe was asking if it was good, not if it was better than the GIMP...04:20
cellofellowkrita is ok, just ok.04:20
Jucatodepends on what you need/use. Krita excells in painting, watercolor, and those natural stuff.04:21
elmerDarkWizdom: my /etc/network/interfaces file is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38305/04:21
DarkWizdomelmer: ok04:21
bluebunnyIt's supposed to be able to handle native Gimp files, but I have'nt had much luck with that.04:21
Jucatobluebunny: not really Krita's fault, as .xcf is not fully "open"04:22
bluebunnyHmmm...04:22
karmikazehrm so aquamarine doesnt seem to work either04:22
DarkWizdombrandon: try this line: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/Backup ext3 umask=000 0 004:23
Jucatobluebunny: the .xcf format itself is not fully documented. the only "documentation" is in the source code of the GIMP itself. that is, the format is essentially tied to the software. no other documentation provided04:23
karmikazeguess i can live without title bars :P04:23
korykarmikaze: you try 'aquamarine --replace'?04:23
karmikazeyep04:23
brandonhow  can i register my name?04:23
DarkWizdomelmer: wi-fi with encription yeah?04:24
Jucato!register | brandon04:24
ubotubrandon: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration04:24
matthew_brandon, /nick brandon04:24
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korytry reloading the window manager?04:24
elmerDarkWizdom: yeah04:24
karmikazehrm04:24
DarkWizdomsorry, setting up wi-fi with encription is quite tough, and I haven't done it :(04:25
DarkWizdomwill have to look through madwifi website04:25
DarkWizdomthey have howto there04:25
elmerDarkWizdom: thank you; I'll try turning off encryption, too04:25
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DarkWizdomelmer: no problem, here's approximate location of howto's: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs04:27
bluebunnyJucato: I didn't know that.04:27
bluebunnySomebody should document the format.04:28
Jucatobluebunny: few people know. they just presume that since GIMP == open source, .xcf == "fully" open04:28
elmerDarkWizdom: again, thank you04:28
Jucatobluebunny: the GIMP devs don't want to. their answer was "the source code is the documentation" or something like that04:29
Jucatobluebunny: anyway, they're developing .xcf2, which hopefully will be better and more documented.04:30
bluebunnyHopefully.04:30
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Jucatobluebunny: on the other hand, there's also a move to create OpenRaster, an open format for layered raster images. don't know if they're considering adopting xcf2 for it...04:33
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bluebunnyI guess we just have to deal with what we have for now.04:34
bluebunnyBTW, I didn't mean to completely insult the Krita project; I just like the gimp better.04:35
Jucatobluebunny: never saw you insulting it. just clarifying that point about Krita not opening .xcf files properly... which annoyed me to04:36
Jucatountil I found out why04:36
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bluebunnyWell, since everything you said was in red, I thought you were pissed.04:37
Jucatobluebunny: lol. when your nick is mentioned in a sentence, the line gets highlighted (in red)04:38
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bluebunnyOh. Oops.04:38
Jucato:)04:39
bluebunny:)04:39
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karmikaze:'(04:39
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Jucato;)04:40
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bluebunnyI'm messing wiith Krita now.04:44
Jucatowhich version?04:45
JucatoI think there were new features added in 1.6.104:46
bluebunnyI'm using 1.5.0, and it seems different from the last time I tried it.  Who knows, maybe I'll get to like it.04:48
karmikazehrmm04:49
karmikazedoes youtube work in konqueror for anyone? :'(04:49
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bluebunnyJust a sec.  I'll try it.04:50
deviantCould someone help me figure out why I'm not getting sound? It looks like alsamixer is picking up my onboard sound but not my sound-card04:50
karmikazei get sound but no video04:51
bluebunnyYoutube works here.04:51
karmikazeD:04:51
karmikazemrrrr04:51
karmikazedo you have any special plugins?04:52
bluebunnyFlash, I think.04:53
karmikaze:/04:53
karmikazeyeah think thats the issue04:53
karmikazeflash didnt install right or something in konqueror04:53
karmikaze@_@04:53
karmikazehrmmm there doesnt seem to be a beryl option for put window on all desktops -_-04:54
karmikazewhich is like the only thing i need if im not to have titlebars........04:54
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ejmI'm having problems logging into my normal user.05:17
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ejmI can login fine with my root user though.05:17
ejmI've removed my user's cache for kde, and I've moved the ./.gconf settings as well.05:17
ejmBut I get kicked back out to my login screen after I log in.05:18
bluebunnyHmm...05:18
AnnirakI am having trouble getting my PCI Wireless-G card working in Ubuntu.  I can list available networks with iwlist, it's recognized with the RALink driver (as ra0).  But when I try to connect to my SSID, it doesn't get an IP on DHCP and networkmanager doesn't see the ra0 device.05:18
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ejmbtw, I'm actually running suse, but I'm banned from #suse right now. I'm not sure why, but I think it may've been something that I said last night.05:19
Annirakalso, wlassistant doesn't see any networks.05:19
ejmSo, I'll keep my mouth shut here.05:19
Annirakejm, Ubuntu doesn't have a root user in the default install.  We use sudo.05:19
ejmoh nuts, I forgot!05:20
jasoni watched a video on vlc player, and i closed it, but i can still hear the audio playing over and over, how can i turn it off? i'm trying to listen to music05:20
ejmWell now, this is gonna be fun. I'll have to go to over to fedora or something else.05:20
CMeKillMyRouterNO! fedora is worse on wireless support!05:20
Annirakdiffernt problems05:20
ejmoh no, I don't have wireless problems.05:20
Annirakejm05:20
AnnirakUm05:20
AnnirakCMeKillMyRouter: I think I have randomly fixed it.05:21
AnnirakWhich is weird.05:21
AnnirakBut anyway05:21
jasonok nvm, it stoped :D05:21
Annirakejm: how much do need to keep out of your regular user?05:21
ejmwell, I usually use my regular user all the time.05:21
Annirakejm: do you know where all the files you need to keep should you happen to lose your home directory are?05:22
ejmyeah05:22
Annirakwell05:22
AnnirakCan you see where I'm going with this05:23
Annirak?05:23
ejmyeah05:23
ejmlol05:23
ejmI have a problem with going a little too extreme with 'bleeding edge'05:23
Annirakthere is likely a cleaner solution05:23
Annirakbut I don't know it05:23
Annirakand no one else is saying anything.05:23
Annirakso05:24
ejmwell, there is something that I'm thinking too.05:24
Annirakgrab what you need05:24
Annirakthen rm -rf /home/ejm/*05:24
ejmk05:24
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ejmNuts, I got my broadcom wifi setup too.05:24
Annirakthen rmuser ejm;adduser ejm05:25
ejmok05:25
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Anniraka little extreme, I know05:25
Annirakthere must be a better way05:25
Annirakbut that should work05:25
ejmthanks, that should help05:26
Annirakbrb05:26
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phobiacAnyone know of a package that can record video of your screen?05:26
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abattoir!info screenkast05:27
thoreauputicphobiac: there's istanbul, but frankly it sucks :)05:27
ubotuPackage screenkast does not exist in any distro I know05:27
thoreauputic!istanbul05:27
ubotuistanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB05:27
phobiacThoreauputic: It doesn't have to be too powerful feature wise05:27
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abattoirphobiac: tried screenkast?05:28
phobiacI'll look into both of those05:28
phobiacThank you05:28
thoreauputicphobiac: well, it works - it just is kind of slow ( at least I had that issue with it, YMMV)05:28
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phobiacHmmm05:33
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phobiacTrying to compile screenkast05:34
phobiacAnd I get this error while it's checking05:34
phobiacchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!05:34
phobiacAnyone know how to fix that?05:34
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lupine_85phobiac: install the X includes...05:37
lupine_85!info libx11-dev edgy05:37
ubotulibx11-dev: X11 client-side library (development headers). In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.0.3-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 1153 kB, installed size 4144 kB05:37
phobiacAh okay05:38
Hawkwindphobiac: No need to compile screenkast, I have packages in my repo at http://SeerOfSouls.com/05:38
phobiacThank you05:38
phobiacThat makes it easier, thank you once again.05:38
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izaurohello05:47
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premierhello05:53
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matthew_deus, can't you keep the same name for at least 10 minutes?05:54
matthew_lol05:54
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matthew_deus, so...still need help?05:54
deussorry05:54
matthew_deus, just playin'05:54
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deusmatthew_: well, I got kubuntu on my computer and its very nice.  I was having trouble installing an ide, prefferably a Java-ready one05:55
seven11my friend needs a free xchat for xp i know there is a free version anyone know?05:55
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deusI have a list of things that if I could get linux to do I would almost never need windows anymore05:55
matthew_deus, check your private messages...05:56
deusIs it possible for linux to play off the shelf computer games with an emulator?05:56
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lupine_85!cedega05:56
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega05:56
matthew_!wine | deus05:56
ubuntuusually I use ubuntu (edgy) but my laptop went wrong the other day so I've been using my friends laptop which she lent me. I ordered kubuntu a few months back (the free cd's) and I have to say, i am *very* impressed with this kubuntu system, it is flawless!!... (Using 6.06 LTS)05:56
ubotudeus: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:56
lupine_85:p05:56
lupine_85doesn't work with all games, but a good number work well05:56
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lupine_85there's a wiki somewhere that details people's epic (and not so epic) struggles to get particular games working05:57
phobiac!cedega05:57
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega05:57
deushmm, that link opened in konquerer, be nice If it opened in fireforx05:57
darkkish_it sucks05:57
phobiacCan't forgot that if you're talking about gaming on linux05:57
towynchow much is cedaga again05:57
darkkish_wine works just as good with tweaks :p05:57
towynci know per month is 15 dollars05:57
matthew_deus, just try highlighting the link, and pasting it in FF05:57
darkkish_there are free versions of cedega05:57
deusdont the games run slower?05:58
matthew_darkkish_, hey, long time no see05:58
lupine_85it's not $15/month05:58
lupine_85I think it's ~405:58
darkkish_lol matthew_05:58
lupine_85and you can stop paying at any time, but keep the current version05:58
matthew_towync, hey...sorry I couldn't get back b4 you left...I had to deal w/ customers...ever fix your problem?05:58
lupine_85but yeah, susbscription-based services suck05:58
deusmatthew_: what about this graphics card?  Id like to get my screen resolution up to 1920x1200, or at least 1400xWhatever.  Right now it 1024x78605:59
phobiacI think you need your screen refresh rates05:59
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matthew_deus, have you selected your card and monitor out of the hardware list?05:59
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deusum, not sure how to do that06:00
CMeKillMyRouterI hope my dell XPS runs ubuntu06:00
CMeKillMyRouterit's got a radeon m card06:00
CMeKillMyRoutertoo late now, it's in the mail06:00
matthew_CMeKillMyRouter, it should06:00
CMeKillMyRoutergoooooooooood. XD06:00
matthew_CMeKillMyRouter, I believe there are binaries for it...06:00
matthew_!ati | CMeKillMyRouter06:00
ubotuCMeKillMyRouter: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:00
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CMeKillMyRouteroh yeah cool06:01
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Conormatthew_, this is deus.  Sorry for the name change, but my other computer wont work06:03
towynccmatthew_  yeah it was fixed06:03
matthew_Conor, np06:03
matthew_towync, sorry i couldn't help06:03
thehoundHello. I wouldn't know. I was in here once before for help but I'm pretty used to Linux now :)06:03
phobiacHawkwind: You still there?06:03
Conormatthew_: So, I selected my hardware from the list on the KDE control center, and then clicked test.06:04
ConorYou know that screen you get when X first starts, with the checkerboard background and the "X" cursor?06:04
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ConorI got that, and it wont go away06:04
matthew_Conor, if you know it'll work (if it worked before on windows) then don't click test...just click apply and logout, restart the x-server (Alt+E) and log back in...06:04
matthew_Conor, hmmm, weird...06:05
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Conorokay, it worked06:06
matthew_Conor, you get a checkerboard pattern?06:06
matthew_Conor, oh, it worked? what are your resolutions now?06:06
Conoryeah, the same when X starts, matthew_06:06
Conormatthew_: Big, prolly 1920x120006:06
ConorVery nice06:07
matthew_Conor, I love it when a plan comes together...06:07
ConorThen menu went even higher06:07
thehoundwell just figured out how to get Konversation to connect through the proxy here :)06:07
thehoundno more mIRC on Wintrash06:07
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Conorokay, now about an ide06:08
j_ha06:08
ConorI was going to get KDevelop, but somepeople suggested netbeans...06:08
matthew_Conor, check out your private messages...on the left if you're using Xchat...06:09
j_how to install mplayer06:09
matthew_j_, sudo apt-get install mplayer06:09
j_i tried  but failed06:10
thehoundyou need repositories06:10
matthew_j_, what was the message?06:10
matthew_package not found?06:10
thehoundlet me figure out a link to a list06:10
j_yes06:10
lupine_85kdevelop++06:10
lupine_85it beats /everything/ else round the head with the VC++ stick, AFAICT06:11
Conormatthew_: I cant find private messages on this thing06:11
matthew_Conor, ok...try out automatix2 @ www.getautomatix.com06:11
matthew_!automatix | matthew06:11
ubotumatthew: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe06:11
JucatoConor: you need to register your nick to be able to send private messages on this server06:12
premierhmm... that doesnt sound like a positive review06:13
matthew_just a disclaimer06:13
matthew_works fine for me!06:13
premierhmmm...06:13
Jucato!worksforme | matthew_06:13
ubotumatthew_: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.06:13
matthew_Jucato, ok...sorry...06:14
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premierId rather just stick with a net beans or KDevelop06:14
matthew_Conor, whatever you do, do _not_ check out www.getautomatix.com...avoid it like poison!06:14
premierhmmm...06:14
Jucatoregarding automatix, that's just the general, and semi-official, sentiment of the Ubuntu devs. whether you follow it or not, it's up to you. they don't control you :)06:14
Thehound666bah had to change my nick, forgot my pass06:14
Thehound666anyways, you using edgy?06:14
premierokay, fine.  But Id like to see If I can use something more supported first06:15
premierme? yes06:15
Thehound666looks decent list here http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html06:15
Jucatowhat app were you looking for anyway?06:15
phobiacHawkwind: Are you there?06:15
premierhow do I get repositories set up?06:16
Jucatopremier: in Edgy, main, restricted, and universe is already there and enabled (except for backports). you just need to enable multiverse06:16
Jucato!multiverse | premier06:16
ubotupremier: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:16
Thehound666edit /etc/apt/sources.list06:17
Thehound666you need to edit as root06:17
Thehound666it's a right click option06:17
premierby the way, the graphics on this computer lags, prolly because I dont have the correct graphics driver installed06:18
matthew_premier, or you can run sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list from a konsole06:18
Thehound666lol ATI card?06:18
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Thehound666fortunately on my super computer, I run Kubuntu within a VM. I also replaced windows on a lower end pc, but it has nvidia card06:21
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Jucatomatthew_: kdesu please06:21
Thehound666Kubuntu configures easy to nvidia06:21
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premierwait, I cant get access to /etc from konquerer06:22
Jucato!kdesu | matthew_06:22
ubotumatthew_: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo06:22
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premierokay, im looking at the sources.list file06:23
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Thehound666just paste all those repositories in and make sure they are not commented out06:23
matroblendI am trying to compile source and get no FMOD headers or Libs06:24
premieryou mean from the webpage?06:24
matroblendCan I get that at konsole06:24
JucatoThehound666: that's kinda too much...06:24
Thehound666yeah and any already there that aren't on page06:24
Jucatomatroblend: you have installed "build-essential"?06:24
Thehound666that page should have enough though06:24
phobiacbye all06:24
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matroblendNot that I know of06:25
Jucatopremier: what were you trying to install, btw?06:25
Jucatomatroblend: you need to install that. and depending on what you are compiling, you might need to install some -devel or -dev packages06:25
premierJucato: kdevelop, or net beans.06:26
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matroblendjucato: Is that in apt?06:26
JucatoThehound666: that page.. it's not properly formatted, btw...06:26
Jucatomatroblend: yep yep06:27
Jucatopremier: kdevelop is in universe, no need to add any repository for it. (it's also enable by default in Edgy)06:27
matroblendjucato: ty I will get and try compile again06:27
Thehound666meh I always had to correct formatting of any page I saw. see if I can find the saved page I got from you guys long ago.06:27
premierJucato: so how do I get at kdevelop?06:27
Jucatopremier: install it fro Adept or from the command line with "sudo apt-get install kdevelop"06:28
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premierJucato: that didnt work06:28
JucatoThehound666: that's why it's not so good to just say "paste all those repositories" as someone might really paste everything06:28
Jucatopremier: what does it say?06:28
Jucatoas for netbeans, it's not found in any of the official repositories06:29
premierE: Package kdevelop has no installation candidate06:29
robotgeekkdevelop306:30
Jucatopremier: by any chance, in your sources.list, are you using "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com"?06:30
premierPackage kdevelop is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:30
premierE: Couldn't find package kdevelop306:30
premierHow should I know?06:30
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Jucatopremier: you said you were looking at your sources.list file already?06:31
robotgeek!info kdevelop306:31
ubotukdevelop3: Dummy package for transition to kdevelop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2+dummy1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB06:31
premierJucato: I havent changed my sources.list yet06:31
Jucatopremier: well, just check first if it's using us.archive.ubuntu.com06:31
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Jucatorobotgeek: kdevelop3 is only for dapper. in Edgy, it's a dummy package that installs kdevelop06:31
Jucatopremier: ok, go to /etc/apt and right-click on sources.list -> Actions -> Edit as Root. it will ask for your password06:32
premierokay06:33
Jucatotell me if it's open now06:33
robotgeekJucato: oh okay06:33
premierJucato: its open06:33
Jucatopremier: check if you're using us.archive.ubuntu.com06:34
premieryeah, its the third line06:34
Jucatopremier: ok, change all the "us." into hm... "uk."06:34
premierokay06:35
premierand save?06:35
Jucatoyep06:35
Jucatothere should be around... hm... 6 lines that have that... (iirc)06:35
premierand then open adept?06:35
Jucatopremier: yep, or go to the command line06:35
Jucatoin Adept, click on Fetch Updates first. in the command line, do "sudo apt-get update"06:36
premierit looks like the universe repository is commented out06:36
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Thehound666I knew I'd find the list I had, it was residing on my windows slave disk but found url06:36
Jucatopremier: it shouldn't be. unless you changed it06:36
Thehound666http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2324906:37
premiershould I uncomment them?06:37
Thehound666yup, all in list be default should be uncommented06:37
Thehound666by default*06:37
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Jucatopremier: depends on which universe you are talking about. if you're talking about the line that has "edgy-backports", then no, you don't absolutely need those06:38
Thehound666the url there was given to me first time these guys helped me06:38
Jucatopremier: the important universe line would be "deb http://__.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"06:38
Thehound666just replace dapper with edgy.06:38
Thehound666other than that, I'll let the experts help you here on in06:39
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Jucato(other universe lines would be "deb http://__.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates universe" and "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security universe")06:40
matroblendI need to install FMOD any how to's for konsole use?06:40
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flaccid!dvd06:40
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:40
flaccidwhat program should i use to play dvd movies?06:40
Jucatohm.. what's FMOD?06:40
Jucatoflaccid: hm... Kaffeine?06:40
flaccidok thanks mate looking now06:41
Jucatoflaccid: depends on the kind of DVD and the codec needed06:41
flaccidah ok06:41
matroblendhttp://www.fmod.org/06:41
flaccidthis is red dwarf :)06:41
Jucato!compile | matroblend06:42
ubotumatroblend: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:42
lupine_85!dvd06:42
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:42
matroblendThx will read for more info06:43
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flaccid!xine06:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:44
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premierokay, thanks everybody for you help, it looks like I got it working06:46
FilipeOliveira hi, i replaced an ide hard drive with an sata, after making a ghost copyof all partitions (swap, ext3 (kubuntu system, ntfs(other os)). after this i rebooted, grub loaded fine, pointed and booted the other os perfectly, however did not boot ubuntu, it stopped after "starting..." is it possible that with the upgrade grub is looking for kubuntu in another location? if so will booting with a live cd, running fdisk to see where my partitions are, editi06:46
FilipeOliveirang  mtab and fstab if they are different suffice to get it booting again?? thanks06:46
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Jucato!libxine06:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:48
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premiercan I fix my graphics driver now?  Matthew, you were saying that I need to install a driver for ati06:49
premier!ati06:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:49
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Jucatogrr... :(06:50
BrianSteffensanyone know a good program that resembles autocad or adobe illustrator that i can use to plan the workings of a program?06:50
Jucatoflowcharting?06:51
BrianSteffensyea something like that06:51
JucatoKivio06:51
BrianSteffensty'06:51
Jucato!kivio06:51
ubotukivio: a flowcharting program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 525 kB, installed size 1744 kB06:51
Jucatoas for something like Adobe Illustrator, there's Inkscape and Xara Xtreme (xaralx package)06:52
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BrianSteffenstyty06:53
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premierhey, Im following the instructions to update my drivers06:56
premiermatthew_? are you still there?06:57
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thedrohello, anyone here install ubuntu on their ps3?07:01
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premierhow do I get super user mode on konquerer?07:03
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Jucatopremier: launch konqueror with "kdesu konqueror"07:03
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coreyhow do i over come this error07:04
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coreyng for socklen_t... size_t07:04
coreychecking for gzsetparams in -lz... no07:04
coreyconfigure: error: zlib needed07:04
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:04
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New_ub_UserI seem to have found a bug in the installer... can anyone help?07:04
Admiral_Chicagohaha, how is it going07:04
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: a bit sleepy... in the middle of the afternoon...07:05
Admiral_ChicagoNew_ub_User, you could file it in launchpad07:05
Jucatobusy days ahead...07:05
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nixternal;p07:05
Admiral_Chicagogah, /me runs07:05
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nixternalhaha07:05
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New_ub_UserAdmiral_Chicago: well I wanted to check it was a bug and not just me being stupid first...07:05
nixternalimbrandon was infamous for the "offtopic" points back in the days07:05
Admiral_Chicagowhats the issue?07:05
Admiral_Chicagohe hit me with a few last year07:05
Jucatohm.. I think nixternal's the first one to hit me with that...07:06
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JucatoI usually hit other people :P07:06
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Jucatomsg ubotu cloak07:06
Jucatoooops07:06
Jucatosorry about that :)07:06
New_ub_UserAdmiral_Chicago: I'm using kubuntu 6.10 desktop cd to install, with the wizard, I've selected to partition the disk myself as it's already split up, I'm on the "Prepare mount points" screen and it won't let me continue saying I've not selected a root filesystem, when I have07:07
Admiral_ChicagoNew_ub_User, are you partitioning, if so what type systems?07:07
Admiral_Chicagoas in daul booting i meant07:07
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New_ub_Userthere's a 32gb ntfs partition hda1, 4gb linux partition hda2 and 512mb swap, hda307:09
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Admiral_Chicagothe 4gb nix patition, and the swap, where they made by the installer07:10
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New_ub_UserAdmiral_Chicago: negative07:10
Admiral_Chicagothat is, they are for ubuntu, not for another linux parition07:10
New_ub_UserAdmiral_Chicago: they were made by a previous linux install07:10
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New_ub_UserAdmiral_Chicago: of knoppix07:10
Admiral_Chicagookay.07:11
Admiral_Chicagoyou have free space for the Ubuntu installer?07:11
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New_ub_UserAdmiral_Chicago: well there's about a gig free, but I've selected the "reformat" checkbox07:12
Admiral_Chicagoyou want to reformat the knoppix partition?07:12
matthew_so...how do I load the firmware for my wireless card? It's a broadcom. When it boots, it pops up a message saying that the load of firmware failed.07:13
Admiral_Chicagomatthew_, add it to /etc/modules I think07:14
Admiral_Chicagoi don't do wireless though07:14
Admiral_Chicagoso I'm not sure at all07:14
matthew_It's in a lappy...compaq presario V400007:14
New_ub_UserAdmiral_Chicago: I can give it a go, but isn't that a bug in the installer then?07:14
matthew_Admiral_Chicago, ok...I'm doing it off a liveCD to show a friend...07:14
matthew_so...07:14
Admiral_Chicagohmm, that won't work actually. sorry hmm not sure07:15
matthew_basically, I want wireless to work from the liveCD...07:15
Admiral_ChicagoNew_ub_User, not sure07:15
matthew_Admiral_Chicago, lol, np07:15
Admiral_Chicagoi think what you would do is go back and delete the partitions07:15
Admiral_Chicagothe linux and swap one07:15
Admiral_Chicagothen commit the changes07:16
spitwiseif its not supported on the live cd ... then ..07:16
Admiral_Chicagothen hit the back button and do "use largest continous freespaceQ07:16
spitwisesol i think ..07:16
matthew_spitwise, hmmm, ok...thanks for the info...07:16
Admiral_Chicagoit's the hardware vendors fault07:16
Admiral_Chicagobut yes i think sol as well07:16
BrianSteffensdoes anybody else have it where resizing windows the redrawing is junky? as if it wasn't double-buffered?07:17
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justin_Is there a way to use Konqueror sudo/root?07:17
jordo23Jucato: You there?07:17
BrianSteffensjustin_ kdesu konqueror07:17
Jucatoyes07:17
Jucatojordo23: yes07:17
justin_Ok I know I can do it that way, but there was a menu option too I used it yesterday -- but now forget.. heh07:18
matthew_Is there a good alternative for adobe premier?07:18
BrianSteffenslol07:18
jordo23Jucato: What do I do if I cannot uninstall a package in Kubuntu because of unmet dependencies?07:20
justin_matthew_, What is adobe premiere?07:20
Admiral_ChicagoJucato, can you try to help New_ub_User? I'm going to go, I did a lot of  bug triage recently and want to sleep07:20
matthew_a video editing program...07:20
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: /me is not good with installation procedures... :(07:20
Admiral_Chicago-f remove?07:20
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Jucatomatthew_: kino?07:20
matthew_I know about kino...anything else?07:20
matthew_lol, nice one, Jucato07:20
Admiral_Chicagohmm, New_ub_User  email me. I'll pm you my email address07:20
Jucatonot in the repositories: virtual dub, jashaka (can't remember the spelling)07:21
RoboMoorewho's up for some dual screen help? alright, here's my problem, I have a nvidia graphics card (geforce 4 mx 440 agp 8x) and I'm using the 2 ports on it, anyone up for the challenge?07:21
Jucatoah Jahshaka07:21
Admiral_Chicagoif you can't get help that is07:21
New_ub_UserAdmiral_Chicago: thanks for your help07:21
Admiral_Chicagogoodnight all07:21
Jucatonight Admiral_Chicago!07:21
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justin_And one last thing - how do I get a module to load auto at boot time every time without having to always modprobe it and restart X -- to use sound, it did it auto in Ubuntu... under Gnome but for some reason under Kubuntu I need to load it manually every time I log in.07:21
Admiral_Chicagonigth Jucato07:21
Jucatojordo23: sudo apt-get remove <package> doesn't work? how were you trying to install it?07:21
Admiral_ChicagoJucato, /etc/modules07:22
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matthew_Jucato, thank you.07:22
SharnHey, anyone know the best guide for XGL and Compiz for an integrated ATI card?07:22
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: huh?07:22
Jucatooh....07:22
Jucatojustin_: <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, /etc/modules07:22
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justin_Admiral_Chicago, It is in /etc/modules...07:22
Admiral_Chicagoerr that was for justin_07:22
JucatoI figured :)07:22
darkkish_does anyone use mIRC07:23
SharnUhm, I am.07:23
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lupine_85darkkish_: used to. now konversation is my friend07:23
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RoboMoorewho's up for some dual screen help? alright, here's my problem, I have a nvidia graphics card (geforce 4 mx 440 agp 8x) and I'm using the 2 ports on it, anyone up for the challenge?07:23
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vursitis<("<)  ^( " )^ (>")>  \/( " )\/  ^( " )>   <( " )^ ^( " )\/07:23
vursitishello07:23
vursitisoh woops, sorry07:24
Conorhello07:24
darkkish_well mIRC has scripting that i iknow how to edo07:24
darkkish_and i really like it07:24
darkkish_but it doesm't work quite rigth in wine07:24
justin_Oh... nevermind07:24
JucatoKonversation has scripting too07:24
justin_I put the file all in caps07:24
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justin_:D07:24
Conorcan someone here tell me what to do to get my tvtuner working?07:24
darkkish_when you press enter to get a line break, the scripting window closes07:24
Jucatodarkkish_: try asking in #winehq07:25
superb0wlRoboMoore https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia i think thats the answer it's not too hard to do07:25
lupine_85darkkish_: copy  + paste ?07:25
darkkish_lupine_85: i don't really want to07:25
RoboMooresuperb0wl: I do07:25
SharnHey, anyone know the best guide for XGL and Compiz for an integrated ATI card?07:25
RoboMoorecause it's not working07:26
lupine_85darkkish_: then hack wine07:26
lupine_85Sharn: wiki.beryl-project.org07:26
lupine_85oh, *compiz*...07:26
lupine_85no idea, sorry07:26
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Conor!tvtuners07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tvtuners - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:27
SharnWell, if beryl is easy enough to set up, that's fine.07:27
lupine_85Sharn: quite easy07:28
SharnAre the instructions for Ubuntu going to work with Kubuntu also?07:28
lupine_85less easy for fglrx drivers07:28
lupine_85yep07:28
SharnMmk.07:28
darkkish_!mirc07:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mirc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:28
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Jucatojordo23: what were you trying to install and how were you trying to install it?07:29
jordo23I think I was trying to install kdepim....don't care about that anymore though...I just want my apt system back to normal...07:30
jordo23Jucato: I think I was trying to install kdepim....don't care about that anymore though...I just want my apt system back to normal...07:30
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Jucatoyou were trying to install it through apt-get?07:31
Jucatohave you tried "sudo apt-get -f install"?07:31
ConorJucato: (or anyone) can you get me started on setting up my tvtuner for linux?07:32
SharnHeh. Now I need to get it installed.07:32
JucatoConor: sorry, not familiar with tvtunders.07:32
Conorhmmm...07:32
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Conordo you know anyone that might help, or where i'd go for help?07:32
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SharnYou tried Google, right?07:33
intelikeyConor help with ?07:33
Conortvtuners07:33
SharnJust want to ask that, because people often overlook it. :P07:33
intelikeymmm07:33
ConorI just have difficulty wading trough the documentation07:33
jordo23Jucato: KDEPIM shows as broken in Adept's Updater too...07:34
Conortheres this page that apparently gives me instructions to load up mythtv, but it wants to know If I want a frontend or backend and Its really confusing07:34
Jucatojordo23: have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install"?07:34
jordo23Jucato: Seems back to normal now....thanks a lot!!07:36
Jucatook... time to snooze.07:36
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nate_I've most likely overlooked it but where can I assign multiple static IPs and DNS?07:37
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superb0wlnate_ i think kdecontrolpanel can do it or /etc/network/interfaces07:41
nate_Thanks, i'll check it out.07:41
Conorhey, i just went to shutdown my computer, And I got a black screen.07:42
ConorI cant figure out if its doing anything07:42
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intelikeyConor ctrl+alt+f8 && ctrl+alt+f1     see anything ?07:44
Conorum... I crashed it07:44
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Conorintelikey: can you help me with this tvtuner?07:45
intelikeywell ffr   that sometimes gets you to a place where you can see what it's doing.     also of note     SysRQ+alt+U  to emergency umount if needed.07:45
intelikeytvtuner   no   sorry.07:46
Conorwhat button is SysRQ?07:46
intelikeygenerally the same as print-screen07:46
superb0wlSysRQ that awesome button on the top half of print screen07:46
Conorokay.  does printscreen still work?07:46
intelikeyyes07:47
Conorcool07:47
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Conoralright, so what would I want to google to get info about my tv tuner?07:47
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intelikeywhen i google i get from 2million to 40thousand hits that after looking at the first 200 and finding nothing apropos i forget what i was looking for and loose interst altogather....07:51
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intelikeybottom line google doesn't work for me.07:52
SpartacusWhat... I just joined, but are my ears deceiving me?! Google not working?07:53
Conorwell, everyone's answer when I ask these questions is: "Google it"07:53
ConorAnd Im like, "Google what?"07:53
SharnPMG07:53
SharnGoogle is teh perfectness. ^__^07:53
intelikeyConor yeah.  that actually works for some people.07:53
kkathmanwell many answers can be found in the wiki, or by Googling strategically07:53
Conoranybody here know how to configure a tvtuner?07:54
SharnMmk, so. "tv tuner setup ubuntu"07:54
kkathmanactually between the wiki, the forums and Google you might be surprised :)07:54
Conoror can tell me where to look for help07:54
kkathmanConor:  did you TRY the wiki?07:54
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intelikeyConor Sharn just said google for  "tv tuner setup ubuntu"07:54
Conorwheres the wiki?07:55
intelikey!wiki07:55
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation07:55
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intelikeywiki wiki who got the wiki07:55
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kkathmanwhat kind of card is it Conor :)07:55
SharnZero results. =O07:56
Conorhauppauge usb207:56
Conorwintv usb207:56
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kkathmanTry the Hauppage web site07:57
kkathmanthere is lots of info there07:57
SharnHm. Yeah. That and search the ubuntu forums too.07:57
SharnIf you don't find it.07:57
Sharnhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/07:57
kkathmanor Type   WinTV Hauppage Linux in Google and you'll see lots of links07:57
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kkathmanincluding the link to the Hauppage Site07:58
kkathmanfor :Linux Installation07:58
kkathmanSo in this case, Google WAS the answer :)07:58
intelikeykkathman yes that was my point eariler.... lots of links is usually very little help...07:58
kkathmanwell, usually for a card, I try the wiki first, then I try a search of forums, then the web site of the card maker07:59
kkathmantypically that will suffice on most issues07:59
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BrianSteffenssomebody got wintv hauppage to work on kubuntu?08:00
kkathmanthat hauppage page sent me to :  http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page08:00
kkathmana full page of How Tos08:00
intelikeysomeone is trying too BrianSteffens08:00
BrianSteffensoh :D08:00
kkathmansee page above08:00
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kkathmanhere's another page:  http://ubuntu.flowconsult.at/en/hauppauge-wintv-usb2/08:02
kkathmantype WinTV Hauppage Ubuntu in Google.....AMAZING!08:02
intelikeykkathman and which one of the 124463 pages actually helps ?08:03
kkathmanhttp://ubuntu.flowconsult.at/en/hauppauge-wintv-usb2/08:03
kkathmancome on guyz :)08:03
kkathmanit took me maybe 5 minutes to find the install?08:03
kkathmanthings arent always easy tho..I'll admite08:04
kkathmanbut there are ample things to peek at on this one :)08:04
intelikey"ample things to peek at"   :)08:05
kkathmansometimes, it takes a little longer than other things...welcome to the world of linux :)08:06
kkathmanthats the fun :)08:06
intelikey"Q; what do linux users do?     A; they install software."      oh the joy....08:07
matthew_intelikey, very nice08:08
SharnHah.08:08
SharnThere's just something that makes you want to make it work thoguh. :)08:08
intelikeybut actually that's not quite accurate.    some install software.  some configure things.08:08
intelikeyme.  i guess i'm a tweek artest...08:09
matthew_intelikey, yep...me too08:10
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intelikeyi still haven't made up my mind if i want to re-arrange my disks....   kinda like moving the furnature,  i never did understand womens need to change the room....08:13
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matthew_intelikey, seriously! I mean, if it's working, why bother?08:15
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intelikeymatthew_ to which ?   hehhe yeah.08:15
matthew_the woman part, of course.08:15
intelikeyapplies to both.08:15
matthew_intelikey, what are you thinking of doing to your disks?08:16
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intelikeywell i have ubuntu installed on three disks...   i was kinda thinking of clearing one and putting windows 95 back on it so the kids could play this stupid game they have.08:17
justin_How do you enable multiverse/universe in Kubuntu08:17
matthew_intelikey, I take it that you can't just wine the game?08:17
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matthew_justin_, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:17
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intelikeyjustin_ same way you do in ubuntu.    you add " universe multiverse "   to the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list08:18
matthew_justin_, you can add the words universe and multiverse to the lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list08:18
intelikeymatthew_ no. tried that already.08:18
matthew_intelikey, bummer08:18
matthew_intelikey, like, majorly08:18
Conorhey! matthew_!08:18
Conorwanna help me configure my tvtuner?08:19
matthew_Conor, hey, ummmm, sure...I guess08:19
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matthew_Conor, what's the problem? (I don't know much!)08:19
justin_matthew_, So now "software" properties as exist in Gnome then?08:20
Conorum... so what do I do?08:20
intelikeyalso if i do i'm kinda thinking of clearing two disks...  one is just a backup copy of the other  and i have burned cd's so i don't need a backup of the backup of the backup,  do i?08:20
justin_Cause I did fix sources.list - but still no "SUN JAVA" when I search.. and I did update/refresh my list.08:20
matthew_justin_, not sure what you mean...just add "universe multiverse" to the end of all the lines...08:20
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matthew_Conor, make/model of video card/tuner...etc...please08:21
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Conorhauppauge WinTV USB208:21
matthew_Conor, hmmm, lemme do some research...h/o08:21
Conorthanks08:22
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intelikeyjustin_  grep -v '#' | sed 's/main.*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' | sort -u > example-sources.list08:23
intelikeyand look at example-sources.list08:23
matthew_Conor, have you seen this yet?         http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3492.html08:23
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Sharn_LiveWoooo.08:24
matthew_Conor, he's using hoary...but it should apply08:24
Conorhoary?08:24
Sharn_LiveI think KDE has snagged me.08:25
justin_KDEINIT could not launch kate?08:25
intelikeyjustin_ copy and paste this in a terminal and then look at example-sources.list  >>>>     grep -v '#' /etc/apt/sources.list | sed 's/main.*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' | sort -u > example-sources.list08:25
justin_..08:25
matthew_Conor, it was a release a couple years ago...stood for "Hoary Hedgehog"...I think it was 5.1008:25
justin_intelikey, Thanks man - but I believe im back off to Gnome.. KDE has been too much trouble this week mem leaks from gam_server to kdeinit saying it cant load this or that.. for no reason at all08:25
Sharn_LiveMmmm. 5.10 was released about exactly a year ago.08:25
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justin_thanks for the help though08:26
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matthew_Sharn_Live, darn...foiled again...08:26
matthew_lol08:26
seven11anyone know how i start a second x when i change to tty3 and i log on do startx -- :3 it will start a new x session but crashes befor i get to the desktop08:26
Sharn_Live:)08:26
intelikeyjustin_  ok....  hehhe  but it's the same thing.08:26
Sharn_LiveDon't we just love VMWare. ^_^08:26
intelikeyseven11 crashes ?   any error messages ?08:27
matthew_Conor, ooh, found another one...this is more recent...here you go.....               http://ubuntu.flowconsult.at/en/hauppauge-wintv-usb2/08:27
matthew_Conor, much much simpler, as well...08:28
Conorokay i got an error08:29
seven11intelikey: can not open dev wacom08:29
matthew_Conor, what error?08:29
matthew_Conor, if it's big...use pastebin08:29
matthew_please08:29
intelikeyseven11 all ubuntu default xorg.conf files have wacom setup   if you don't have a wacom device you can comment out the "three" wacom device entries  and that error will cease.08:30
Conorpastebin.com/84303608:30
matthew_Conor, h/o08:31
matthew_Conor, did you use sudo?08:31
Conorno08:31
intelikeyseven11 try a desktop and/or app in place of startx08:31
CMeKillMyRoutersudo make me a sandwich08:32
matthew_Conor, try that...08:32
Conorthat didnt fix it08:32
matthew_Conor, ok, I'm out of ideas...are you sure that your video card can do all that? (YUY2 images, etc...)08:32
matthew_Conor, oh, right...ati x1400 mobility...08:32
ConorHow should I know?  Its a pretty recent card, and I got the fg whatever drivers08:33
matthew_Conor, have you tried installing the ati binaries?08:33
Conorfglx?08:33
Conoryea08:33
intelikeyseven11 x is already running you don't need more instances of x running you just need to connect to it.    i.e.   konsole --display :3        (one or two dashes, xapps often break posix there.)08:33
matthew_Conor, ok...hmm...I'm out of ideas...sorry.08:33
matthew_Conor, lol, too bad genii isn't here...08:33
krautmoin08:33
ConorI installed mythTV08:34
matthew_Conor, did that work?08:35
Conorbut it kept asking about my password to MySQL or something08:35
ConorI was confused out of my mind08:35
matthew_Conor, and you have no idea...hmmm...lemme look around some more...08:35
Conorthanks08:35
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intelikeyseven11 but you do know that the second gui would naturally be :1  don't you ?08:36
matthew_Conor,              http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MySql08:36
seven11intelikey: but it should work on 2 as well?08:38
Conormatthew_: it says it "cant connect to local MySQL server..."08:38
intelikeyseven11 i've never tried skipping numbers...  you can test it.08:38
Conorsudo didnt fix it08:38
seven11ok thanks for your help08:38
matthew_Conor, ok, lemme look again, lol08:39
intelikeyseven11 in time past i have edited startkde to accept display agrs   if you know bash it's simple.08:40
Conorbtw, this is a really nice operating system08:40
matthew_Conor, what? mythtv?08:40
intelikeythen you can     startkde --display :2     but withut editing the script doesn't readin the args.08:40
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intelikeyConor yeah linux is top notch   imo08:41
BrianSteffensdoes everyone's windows resize and move kind of shakily?08:42
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JediSpamerm08:42
JediSpamshakily? lol08:42
intelikeyBrianSteffens no.08:42
BrianSteffenshm =/08:42
JediSpamit sounds like your monitor frequency is too high or something lol08:42
Conormatthew_: did you ask me a question?08:42
BrianSteffensi've tried both the fglrx and the most current ati drivers08:43
JediSpamthe refresh rate08:43
BrianSteffenslooks the same both times08:43
matthew_Conor, yeah...did you say that you like the layout of MythTV?08:43
Conorno, I like kubuntu, and linux in general08:43
matthew_Conor, ah...ok...I'm still looking around...08:43
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JediSpamkubuntu is nice08:44
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JediSpamhow is myth tv? i don't know what to do for my htpc... should i get the knoppix that has myth tv built in08:44
BrianSteffensJediSpam: where can i find the refresh rate settings?08:44
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intelikeyBrianSteffens just the vesa module  is smooth  so it's prbably something about the ati and the modules...08:44
JediSpamrefresh rate should be in "screen resolution" i think08:44
JediSpamyou might have to edit your xorg.conf08:44
JediSpamnot sure08:44
BrianSteffensand yea i love ubuntu/kde08:44
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BrianSteffensintelikey is the vesa module what it uses by default before installing any drivers?08:45
matthew_Conor, does the rest of the error message say "...through socket so and so"?08:45
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matthew_Conor,          http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=7438708:46
intelikeyBrianSteffens can be.   or there may be some generic ati module   i don't know.    it can also use kernel frame buffering   but i don't like to try to run x in that.08:46
BrianSteffensJediSpam where is xorg.conf located?08:46
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BrianSteffensintelikey well it worked HORRIBLY when i first installed kde. adding fglrx or the current ati drivers helped a lot but it still doesn't run smooth like macos or windows08:47
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Conormatthew_: yeah08:48
intelikeyBrianSteffens vesa is what the liveCD uses to get started   but live CD's are notorious for slow choppy lagging problems  so that not a good test.08:48
spitwiseBrianSteffens: /etc/X1108:48
matthew_Conor,          http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=7438708:48
spitwiseyou need root permissions08:49
spitwiseer08:49
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spitwiseprivs08:49
spitwisesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:49
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intelikeyBrianSteffens there may be some tweeks mentioned on the wikis   again i don't know much about   ati    only that i don't want one.08:50
BrianSteffenswhat is OpenGLOverlay?08:50
Conorokay.  How do I set up mysql?08:50
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intelikey!mysql08:50
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)08:50
matthew_Conor, ummm, sudo apt-get install mysql?08:50
matthew_intelikey, what do you think?08:50
intelikeysee the link ^08:50
Conorthat returned an error.08:50
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BrianSteffensworked for me with konqueror08:51
matthew_Conor,         https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP08:51
spitwiseConor: i'd do some reading, it's a bit tricky if you're new to it ... to get it all set up and whatnot08:51
Conoroh boy08:51
matthew_Conor, lol, no one said it was easy!08:51
Conormmm...08:52
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intelikeyif it was easy there would be a script in the package and you wouldn't have to set anything up...08:52
matthew_Conor, good luck with that...I've never ever touched MySQL08:52
Conoroh08:53
Conoris there something wrong with it, or jusst never encountered it?08:53
matthew_Conor, nothing wrong with it...just never played with it...no need08:53
spitwiseConor: mysql + apache as a front end are really nice08:53
spitwisepowerful but takes some effort08:54
BrianSteffensi'd imagine mysql has to run on an enormous variety of platforms, with an insane number of options for everything08:54
spitwisealso look up phpmyadmin08:54
spitwiseit makes life easier08:54
BrianSteffensso i'd think it'd be quite a bit more involved to install it than say a text editor08:55
BrianSteffenslol08:55
spitwiseinstalling is fine .. making it work is a different story since it'lll only do what you tell it ot ;)08:56
spitwiseto even08:56
spitwisei've only used it for a small database project08:57
spitwiseeven then i think it was a bit overkill ;)08:58
spitwisebut well worth the endeavor08:59
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nvman90Anyone try installing kubuntu with a nvidia 8800GTX?09:00
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touchCan someone help me compile this driver from source for Kubuntu Edgy? http://www.softcoded.net/eduard/elousb.html09:01
lupine_85nvman90: it'll work fine09:01
lupine_85although you might need to install the beta drivers to get support for your card09:01
lupine_85!nvidiabeta09:01
ubotuFor Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable09:01
lupine_85actually, you'll need the 9742 drivers (s/stable/unstable in the above line)09:01
nvman90I installed the 9746 drivers that came out today09:02
touchI'm afraid my lack of knowledge of C prevents me from understanding the output of my MAKE.09:02
nvman90straight from nvidias site...not from a repos09:02
BrianSteffenstouch: what's the output say?09:02
nvman90which seems to have been a bad idea09:02
lupine_85touch: no need to install them from source really09:02
lupine_85nvman90: 9746? Bad experience?09:02
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nvman90becuase now when I try to start X I get this message "Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7184, but this X module has the version 1.0-9746."09:03
touchNo... this one there is lupine_85. It's specially compiled to be "hacked" For this purpose. Hold up a sec BrianSteffens, I'll pastebin it09:03
touch!pastebin09:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:03
lupine_85nvman90: it's got the nvidia legacy .ko installed09:03
lupine_85sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia might fix it for you.. otherwise, support for your card has been removed in 974609:04
spitwise!modprobe09:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:04
spitwise*gasp*09:04
lupine_85the poor bot hasn't been linked up to man just yet :p09:04
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spitwiseheheh09:04
nvman90alright i'll try that09:05
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touchHere's the output of my make http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38332/09:05
=== touch made it a habit of lying on M$'s EULAs
nvman90although support was definitly not removed because the driver says that it adds support for my card09:05
lupine_85but yeah, as soon as nouveau get to a usable state, I'm dumping the nvidia one09:05
intelikeysays a lot about a person imo.09:05
Conorwhen is genii gonna be back?09:06
lupine_8513. /usr/include/unistd.h:418: error: conflicting types for 'xf86usleep' <-- what it says.09:06
matthew_Conor, whenever he wants to, lol09:06
lupine_85X11R7 ?09:06
touchYeah.. but what does that mean?09:06
lupine_85I was under the impression this was X11R6 ..09:06
Conoryeah, you guys are too helpful09:06
touchAhh.. so it's possibly a typo from the creator?09:07
BrianSteffenstouch: bad code09:07
BrianSteffenslol09:07
nvman90Lupine: Thanks I think those 2 commands fixed it :09:07
lupine_85either it's designed for a different version of the X11 protocol (though I didn't know X11R7 was out) or the coder is a numpty09:07
intelikeyi'm looking forward to X1209:07
lupine_85nvman90: cool09:07
lupine_85intelikey: not Y windows? :p09:07
touchGAH....09:07
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touchThat would successfully kill my last hope of getting this touchscreen working on edgy..09:08
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BrianSteffenshow can i install a .deb package i downloaded?09:08
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lupine_85BrianSteffens: dpkg -i09:08
BrianSteffensty09:08
lupine_85if you're sure you want to install it09:08
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matthew_intelikey, what are you smoking?!?!?09:08
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intelikeymatthew_ micro-chips   i guess09:09
matthew_intelikey, hmm...what's up?09:09
matthew_intelikey, you ok?09:09
intelikeysure09:09
matthew_intelikey, ok, just checkin'09:10
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spitwisewell my excuse is that i saw santa being mugged in the opeiong scene of strange days on tv and its keeping me up09:10
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matthew_spitwise, nuh huh, santa can't ever get mugged09:10
spitwisewell i done seen it on the boob tube.09:11
spitwiseso it must be forreal.09:11
intelikeylol09:11
spitwiseand are there any other mac users in the room?09:12
touchOne last hope.. On this guy's site, he's got a regular driver already compiled that's to be copied to the  /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input directory, but it's for Dapper. If I copied it there, should I be able to modprobe it and use it like normal?09:12
intelikeyroom != channel09:12
spitwisekubuntu+ppc=no you tube09:12
lupine_85touch: probably not - it's a different version of x.org09:12
nvman90ughh so it still messes up when I restart untill I type "rmmod nvidia" then "startx" works, but I have to do that everytime I restart09:12
touchSo I'd have to downgrade to Dapper to even get it going lupine_85?09:13
lupine_85nvman90: did you install using the official installer...?09:13
lupine_85touch: you could contact the author and ask about getting an edgy build09:13
spitwiseintelikey: *ahem* in the Channel.09:13
lupine_85aside from that, pretty much, yeah09:13
nvman90lupine: installed from the script on nvidias site09:13
nvman90lupine: driver just came out today, that supports my card09:13
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lupine_85nvman90: thought so. You're conflicting with the packages in the repo09:14
touchWell.. in that case.. I think I'll go ahead and email him and downgrade for the time being. Thanks for the help09:14
lupine_85so either uninstall linux-restricted-modules and nvidia-glx or give me 1/2 hour and i'll get you working 9746 packages :p09:14
lupine_85(9742 already exist)09:14
spitwisehaving serious video issues with ppc + *nix.09:14
nvman90lupine: LOL no i don't need you to waste time getting a package up. I'll figure something out, thanks for the help09:15
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lupine_85nvman90: I've got to update anyway :p09:16
lupine_85see http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/09:16
intelikeyspitwise if no one comes to your aid here you can ask in #ubuntu    xorg is xorg  not desktop specific.09:16
spitwisemm..09:16
intelikeynot that anyone will actually help in there either....09:17
spitwisetricky .. and mostly due to lack of a macromedia plugin09:17
intelikey!flash09:17
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:17
spitwiseso i need like #ubuntuppcXmacromedia.09:17
lupine_85woo, 9746 is stable09:17
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spitwiseor #swf4peepswifwhiteyuppoeboxes09:18
bluebunnyI'm a blue bunny.09:18
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spitwisebut htanks intelikey09:19
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spitwiseone day i'll ask and there'll be a ppc dork here :D09:19
intelikeyuep09:19
intelikeyyep09:19
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touchIs there any quick way to downgrade from Edgy to Dapper without the CD?09:21
lupine_85!downgrade09:21
ubotuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.09:21
nvman90lupine: does that mean you're already getting a package for it?09:21
lupine_85what he said09:21
spitwiseya i wouldnt go there09:21
lupine_85nvman90: pretty much, yes09:21
lupine_85downloading the source now09:21
lupine_8590MB :s09:22
lupine_85then all the fun of uploading it...09:22
nvman90ouch thats a lot of code09:22
nvman90Where are you uploading it?09:23
intelikeytouch skipping versions in an upgrade is equally not supported,,, but i have done it.      best advice i can give you is uninstall everything that doesn't require "Yes, do as I say."  to remove it and then start the process.09:23
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lupine_85it'll be the nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk edgy stable repository09:24
nvman90Awesome! Let me know when its up :)09:24
lupine_85ok :)09:25
lupine_85i386 or amd64 ?09:25
nvman90i38609:25
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lupine_85I'll do that first then09:25
nvman90alright cool :)09:25
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max_how do i install a .bin09:26
matthew_max_, you just move it to the appropriate directory09:26
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max_what?09:27
stdinyou usually run a .bin file09:27
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matthew_stdin, oh...I must be thinking of something else...09:27
matthew_stdin, oh yeah, the *.so files...like for flash.09:27
stdin:p09:28
stdinyeah09:28
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max_ive been trying to install java for an hour09:28
max_and cant figure out how09:28
intelikeytouch i can script the removal process if you like. pretty simple but takes a while#   "dpkg -l | grep ^ii | cut -d' ' -f3 | sort > list ;for Q in $(<list) ;do apt-get remove --purge -f -y $Q ;done  "09:28
stdinmax_: why not install it from the repos?09:28
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stdoutMUAHAHA09:28
max_its in the repos?09:28
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max_!java09:29
BrianSteffensok i'm done09:29
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository09:29
stdinit's in universe09:29
stdinor multiverse rather09:29
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stdinlike the bot says :p09:29
max_well09:29
max_that fixes that09:29
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BrianSteffenshas anyone else had a problem with ktorrent getting <1 kb/s down on all torrents except one at a time that gets 50-150?09:30
max_80mb?! java is that big?09:30
intelikeyjava   heh09:30
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max_intelikey: why "heh"09:30
matthew_BrianSteffens, I had so many problems with ktorrent that I just switched to Azerues...09:30
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spitwise<1k???09:31
stdinintelikey: how come? (to the java part, not the win part)09:31
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BrianSteffensmatthew_ does azerues come with scheduling?09:32
intelikeystdin just don't have any use for it.09:32
matthew_BrianSteffens, I don't know...let me check09:32
lupine_85building...09:32
spitwisejava is rather unneccessssssary\09:32
lupine_85bah, and it kills my desktop :(09:32
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kkathmanwell its necessary for some things09:32
lupine_85erm, AM209:32
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kkathmanlike applications that need it09:33
lupine_85kkathman: there's a saying. If it's worth doing in java, it's worth doing properly :p09:33
BrianSteffensjava is a cool idea i just hate it09:33
kkathmanlol09:33
stdinlike azerues09:33
intelikeysee i don't even know what AM2 is  and probably don't want to know.09:33
kkathmanwell I dont argue with that.. but some applications that people use are written in java I guess09:33
lupine_85AMD processor :p09:33
kkathmanI personally despise java09:33
lupine_85at least, I /think/ it's AM209:33
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matthew_BrianSteffens, I don't see anything...but you can cap your up/down speeds, and how many downloads can be active at once...09:34
lupine_85(like core duo but better, cos it's AMD :p )09:34
stdinjava is good for platform/OS independent software09:34
BrianSteffensmatthew_ k thanks09:34
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lupine_85stdin: so is C source :p -- if it's done properly09:34
intelikeyk9 ?09:34
spitwisenot my platform!09:34
intelikeyoh AM^209:34
lupine_85intelikey: nah, just dual core09:34
matthew_BrianSteffens, np09:35
lupine_85or maybe some quad opterons..09:35
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stdinlupine_85: in C you can still call on OS dependant APIs, java is a bit different, but C is better :p09:35
BrianSteffensC wins all09:35
BrianSteffens:D09:35
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matthew_C ftw09:36
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spitwiselol09:36
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BrianSteffens!ati09:39
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:39
lupine_85bah, looks like I'm going to need a reboot to compile the i386 stuff...09:40
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spitwise!screen09:40
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen09:40
intelikey!es | ubuntu09:41
ubotuubuntu: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:41
spitwise!sleep09:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:42
lupine_85 /snore09:42
spitwiseheh09:42
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intelikeyapitwise mount -o remount,dreamonly /dev/brain /media/pillow09:43
spitwiseaww09:44
touch!touchscreen09:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about touchscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:44
touch!nothing09:45
ubotuSaying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so. - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.09:45
touchHmm.. there goes the I don't know anything about nothing line09:45
intelikey!myself09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
matthew_!God09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about God - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
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ubotuthe: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (edgy), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB09:46
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intelikeylol09:46
intelikeyit only parsed the09:47
intelikeyi wonder if it always drops world09:47
intelikey!cdw world09:47
ubotucdw: Tool for burning CD's - console version. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.3-6 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 180 kB09:47
intelikeyyep09:47
touch!theworld09:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about theworld - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:47
touchAHA!09:48
intelikeywish it ignored i09:48
matthew_!the_world09:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about the_world - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:48
intelikey!'the world at large'09:48
ubotuthe: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (edgy), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB09:48
lupine_85harsh09:49
touch!duckbilled platypus09:49
lupine_85be nice to the poor bot09:49
touchI just got a PM From the Bot! O.o09:49
intelikey!botsnack09:49
ubotuYum!09:49
intelikeyok09:49
touchError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:49
lupine_85hehe09:49
touchI think I'll leave him be before he sicks Mr. Roboto on me09:49
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BrianSteffensi just installed compiz, how do i use it ;P09:50
intelikeyterminator ?09:50
intelikey!compiz09:50
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:50
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intelikeythe    Help in #ubuntu-xgl    seems apropos09:51
lupine_85amd64 9746 uploading....09:52
nvman90Did you already get i386 up?09:53
lupine_85no, sorry. I have to reboot to build that09:53
lupine_85and I hate rebooting :p09:53
nvman90Oh09:53
nvman90:(09:53
nvman90that sucks09:53
lupine_85so I thought I'd do amd64 first09:53
nvman90lol alright09:53
lupine_85I'll do i386 straight after09:53
nvman90Just make me stay up longer ;)09:53
nvman90nah i'm just kidding go at your own pace09:53
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lupine_85hey, I've not been to sleep yet :p09:54
lupine_85[08:54]  <lupine_85> hey, I've not been to sleep yet :p09:54
nvman90LOL09:54
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nvman90LOL wow09:54
intelikeynvman90 you could just check tomarrow....09:54
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nvman90Ya...I could...09:54
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=== lupine_85 needs more upload :(
lupine_85only 832kbps09:55
matthew_lupine_85, aw, quit whining...09:57
lupine_85:p09:57
intelikeyyuch   the three examples in man tar all have -vv in them.....09:57
matthew_lupine_85, only got about 128 Kbs or so...09:57
lupine_85I can get 2.4Mbps soon09:57
matthew_lupine_85, are you hosting a site or something?09:57
lupine_85that's at home09:57
lupine_85I've got one server in london @ 5mbps; the other @100mbps09:58
matthew_lupine_85, nice09:58
lupine_85very :D09:58
jordo23Anyone here run a 64 bit platform?09:58
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jordo23Lupine_85 You run Kubuntu 64 bit edition?09:59
lupine_85yes09:59
jordo23lupine_85:  Did you ever get flash working for konqueror?10:00
lupine_85no10:00
lupine_85a 32bit chroot should do the trick though10:00
jordo23I tried it but couldn't get it to work...10:00
jordo23lupine_85: Can you walk me through it?10:00
lupine_85I've not done it10:00
jordo23how would i do that then?10:01
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intelikey!chroot10:01
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box10:01
reldruhhello10:01
lupine_85repo updated for amd64.... I'm moving to i386 now...10:01
reldruhAs I was playing with ndiswrapper kubuntu stopped recognizing my wireless card, even though kubuntu says the driver and device are present. Can anybody help me get it working?10:03
jordo23Will Adobe ever release a 64 bit flash port?10:03
intelikey!wifi10:04
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:04
joheyWhen using Ktorrent, all the time my downloads and uploads stops because there are too many open files. How can I increase the limit?10:04
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joheyWhen using Ktorrent, all the time my downloads and uploads stops because there are too many open files. How can I increase the limit?10:04
jordo23You increase the settings in config options.10:04
stdinjordo23: apparently you don't need a chroot to get flash in firefox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava10:04
joheySorry.10:04
jordo23stdin: I use Konqueror though....doesn't work for Konq10:05
jordo23stdin: Already read that article :)10:05
intelikeyjohey man ulimit      it may be restricting you.10:05
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joheyjordo23: It is not about maximum downloads or so, but more on a lower level. I think it exceeds the OS limits of maximum number of open files.10:06
joheyintelikey: Aha oki, thanks! I'll take a look at that.10:06
intelikeyjohey ulimit10:06
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touchIs there any command I can use to at least see if Linux SEES my USB connection on my Touchscreen?10:06
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jordo23touch: you have a touch screen?10:07
touchYeah.. nonworking I'm afraid10:07
touchAt least under Kubuntu Edgy10:07
intelikeyjohey pam can also squeeze things    but i don't think default ubuntu is configured that way.    still having a look in /etc/security/access.conf   wont hurt10:07
max_can somoene tell me what the deal is with "Super Cow Powers"10:07
stdinmakes things moooove faster10:08
intelikeytouch lsusb10:08
touchIt's an apt thing max_10:08
stdin:p10:08
max_i know that10:08
BrianSteffensdoes xgl help make windows resize and stuff smoother?10:08
max_but whats it mean10:08
touchWell.. it sees it. :) But it can't identify it like it can my Microsoft Mouse10:09
joheyintelikey: Ah oki. One more thing. My downloads and uploads goes to and from an NFS mount. Can it be the file system or the settings of the remote computer?10:09
touchBest I get is Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1391:100010:09
intelikeyjohey if it's on the other end you will find more connection refused type errors10:10
intelikeyor timed out10:10
joheyintelikey: man ulimit is section 3, the linux programmer manual. Is that the one you mean?10:10
stdinmax_:  apparently it just an easter egg10:10
intelikeyjohey yeah10:11
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exshow do I update ktorrent under the live cd? (kubuntu 6.06LTS)10:11
touchHmm.. using Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1391:1000, if I were trying to tell xorg.conf where the device was.. would it be /dev/event6?10:11
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Kouyahi10:12
intelikeyjohey ulimit is also a bash built-in   you can  help ulimit | less     for that side of the info.10:12
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KouyaI can't get the sun Java plugin to work :/10:12
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Kouyait is installed, selected at update-alternatives and still konqueror doesn't find the plugin10:13
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lupine_85yhelothere :p10:14
lupine_85i386 build proceeding...10:15
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nvman90Hey you restarted that must mean your working on i38610:15
nvman90awesome10:15
stdinKouya: did you install 'sun-java5-plugins' too?10:15
Kouyastdin: yes10:15
lupine_85you should consider yourself honoured that I rebooted for you :p10:15
rohanmy acer travel mate 3260 has an intel GMA 950 card. however, ubuntu gives max resolution of 1924x768 only. how do i increase it ?10:15
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nvman90Oh I do :)10:15
lupine_85:p10:16
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joheyintelikey: This might be it. It seems like I have maximum 1024 file descriptors. If Ktorrent use one descriptor per segment, it may be exceeded. Do you know if that is the way it operates?10:16
lupine_85rohan: "only"? That's huge10:16
KouyaI get "sun-java5-plugin is already the newest version." when I run apt-get install sun-java5-plugin10:16
intelikeyjohey idk.   easy test is to rase the bar10:16
rohanlupine_85: well, windows goes higher10:17
joheyintelikey: :) Yes, sorry.10:17
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intelikeywell there went my boot loader.      tty24 [root@~]  badblocks -w /dev/hda10:18
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intelikeynext i guess i'll trash hdc10:19
joheyintelikey: One problem though... bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operationen inte tillten (that means operation not allowed), and as sudo it says sudo: ulimit: command not found10:19
Kouyarohan: maybe that's a configuration limit10:20
Kouyabut it is possible that you're able to select a resolution on the 'official' configuration file10:20
intelikeyjohey you'll have to edit /etc/profile  i think.    set it from there  then it's imutable for the user10:20
stdinjohey: try sudo -s to get a root shell first10:21
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joheyintelikey: Oh okay, so this limit is per user and not per process? Or is it globally system wide?10:21
Kouyastdin: java plugin is installed but still undetected by konqueror10:21
intelikeystdin i don't think that will help on ulimit setting.  it's per-shell limits10:21
Kouyait is selected on update-alternatives10:21
stdinah10:21
rohanKouya: well, cant 915resolution help me go higher ?10:22
intelikeyjohey yes per-shell   as in login id10:22
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lostonerCan someone explain to me how to tell what hardware address my device is plugged into via USB? Like /dev/input/whatever10:22
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Kouyarohan: it's not very good to mess with xorg.conf to select a resolution because it may make you unable to select a resolution you forgot to list10:23
intelikeyjohey when you login it reads that in and everything under that login is counted as part of the total10:23
lupine_85ARGH! fscking jumping sound cards10:23
BrianSteffenscompiz will neither install nor uninstall. it seems like each thing relies on each other thing10:23
Kouyalostoner: if kde automounted it10:23
rohanKouya: ah, ok .. thanks for warning me :)10:23
Kouyalostoner: go to a console and type "mount"10:23
joheyintelikey: Ok. And if I set it in /etc/profile, will it apply to all my processes, even those started from the K menu?10:23
MistaEDlupine_85: cheers for the amd64 nvidia module! it seems to work nicely10:24
intelikeyjohey yes10:24
lostonerWill that work for hardware Kouya? I know it works with drives10:24
intelikeybut you will have to logout and then login to activate it10:24
joheyintelikey: Aha, you already replied to that. :) So this is per X session, so now I need to log in and out?10:24
intelikeyno it's bigger than per-x10:24
BrianSteffensanyone know what to do if i have a failed, halfway install of something and neither install nor remove work?10:24
nvman90lostoner: lshw should tell you10:25
Kouyawell, I have to go10:25
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KouyaI'll come back in the afternoon :P10:25
Kouyaschool time10:25
intelikeyjohey and yes you'll have to log out/in10:25
joheyOkay. Brb, I hope.10:25
oemcould someone please tell me how to make kubuntu to get other repositories?10:25
oemI'm totally new10:26
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intelikey!repos | oem10:26
ubotuoem: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:26
lostonerWell.. that shows everything but the touchscreen10:26
lostonerExcept whatever the heck  IdealTEK is10:26
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intelikeylostoner google might reviel what it is10:27
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intelikeyjohey ulimit -a    ?10:27
lupine_85ok... uploading i38610:27
lupine_85expect it to be complete in ~10 minutes10:28
lostonerGoogle shows nothing but an eBay seller LOL10:28
joheyintelikey: Still 1024.10:28
Edulixanyone knows how to download a youtube video with wget or smoething? I've tried to install some script from kde-apps but none of them works now10:28
nvman90alright well i've been waiting this long 10min should be nothing10:28
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Edulixsupposedly, with http://www.youtube.com/get_video.php?video_id=aRHk8ol0vTw (for example) you would download the video, but it deosn't work anymore10:29
Edulixor maybe I'm mistaken? :P10:29
Edulixsorry, there's no #youtube hehe10:29
joheyintelikey: Maybe 65536 is more than I can set?10:29
intelikeyhehhe maybe10:29
intelikeyidk i've never set  -n   only  -u   for easy fork bomb protection10:30
joheyintelikey: Hm.. But with sudo su, I can set it to 65536, so maybe there is something else...10:30
exsthow do i install firefox on kubuntu?10:31
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intelikeyit may be pam   look into /etc/security/10:31
CMeBuyAnotherRouvery easy, exst!10:31
stdinexst: open adept and install firefix10:31
intelikey!ff | exst10:31
ubotuexst: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins10:31
luca_bexst: either you use Adept, or you can drop to a console and use "sudo aptitude install firefox"10:31
exstok thanks10:32
intelikeyluca_b or even just a terminal10:32
intelikeyno need to drop to a console for that.10:32
luca_bintelikey: Oh, I didn't mean switch to a VT, I meant use konsole or equivalent, sorry10:33
intelikeyfigured that.  but didn't want to confuse things even more.10:33
joheyintelikey: When I change something in the pam files, how do I make the settings apply? Relogin into X, right?10:33
intelikeyjohey yes10:34
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intelikeyjohey not that you would probably have a console open  but if you do you'll have to log out there too.10:35
joheyintelikey: Oki. But it is not logged to any file?10:35
intelikey?10:35
joheyintelikey: Never mind. I misunderstood.10:36
joheyBrb again.10:36
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joheyHoo-ha. Pam is teh shit. :D10:37
intelikey!language | johey10:38
ubotujohey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:38
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intelikeyand yeah.10:38
CMeBuyAnotherRouhaha10:38
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joheyYeye. Sorry.10:38
intelikeyis the rest of your nick Router ?10:39
intelikeyCMeBuyAnotherRou ?10:39
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CMeBuyAnotherRouyes :P10:40
luca_bjohey: PAM can be troublesome, yes10:40
CMeBuyAnotherRoumy router fails10:40
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CMeBuyAnotherRouall the time10:40
Jucatothank goodness for nick tab completion :)10:40
CMeBuyAnotherRouor it could be "buy another round" ;)10:40
intelikeybuild one out an old pc   linux routers quite well i hear.10:40
luca_bI and my brother built our own Ubuntu router10:40
joheyluca_b: Maybe so, but this time I meant that it solved my problem. Or, maybe just stopped causing my problem. :)10:41
luca_bETX MB + converter for 12 V power supplu + Ubuntu server10:41
luca_band a 100 Gb 2.5" HDD, net install, all right10:41
intelikeyjohey at any rate PAM is very powerful    if you play with it be sure to leave your self a back door   :)10:43
joheyintelikey: You mean like an installation DVD for a quick recover? :p10:44
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intelikeyjohey i like to drop to a console login and issue sudo -i then openvt -fc 24    and exit exit.   that will give you a root console on tty24 so you can logout all you want and if for what ever reason you can't log back in you have the root console  to fix it in.10:45
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Simian__i can't remember what the command is to remove a directory that is full of files10:46
lupine_85nvman90: if you haven't yet, you should be able to upgrade now10:46
intelikeyjohey btw  right-alt+f12   is quick access to tty24  from console #10:46
JucatoSimian__: rm -rf directory10:46
nvman90lupine: alright thanks!10:46
Simian__Jucato: thanks10:46
JucatoSimian__: just never do "sudo rm -rf /". never10:47
lupine_85heh10:47
Simian__Jucato: lol ok10:47
lupine_85I can think of one situation where it  might be useful10:47
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lupine_85a bit like crossing the beams, really10:47
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joheyintelikey: Cool. Thanks for telling me that after I have been playing with the settings. :)10:47
intelikeylol10:47
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intelikeyi did tell you to look into PAM  i didn't tell you you were ready to start editing   lol10:48
joheyintelikey: Good point. Heh.10:48
intelikeybut hey it worked     right  ?10:48
Jucatohm.. has anyone else noticed this: starting a new user (while the current one is still running), the new X session is tied to Ctrl+Alt+F9, not F8?10:48
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joheyYes, intelikey. Now I have the limit of 65536 file descriptors for my main user. I haven't verified that it was the causing problem for Ktorrent, but I believe it was.10:49
stdinJucato: nope10:49
Jucatohm...10:49
Jucatostrange...10:49
stdinalways starts on VT8 if i start a new session10:50
Jucatoctrl+alt+f8, right?10:50
stdinyeah10:50
intelikeyjohey so you also have a cool backdoor (or root console)   if you ever need to play in low end settings again/some_more      i just thought you might take a note.10:50
intelikeyand maybe when you tell someone how to do what you've done you'll tell them to make a trap door first.  :)10:51
intelikeyok  i'm going back to destroing all data on 5 hard drives.10:52
seven11is there a package for a consol browser and if whats the name10:52
joheyintelikey: Hmm, okay. :D Thanks for the help!10:53
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intelikeynp10:53
stdinseven11: a web browser?10:53
seven11jo10:53
seven11web browser10:53
intelikeyseven11 w3m lynx links2 elinks      and possably others.10:53
Jucatow3m? links?10:53
stdinseven11: lynx, links and elinks  are the ones I know of10:53
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seven11thanks lynx was what i was looking for10:54
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stdinelinks in screen is quite useful10:54
intelikeyseven11 if you like lynx   you'll probably like elinks  too.10:54
lupine_85seven11: links2 does javascript10:54
lupine_85very helpful10:54
intelikeyelinks does too10:55
intelikeyand tables10:55
Jucatointelikey: what do you use?10:55
intelikeyelinks10:55
seven11ok i will have a look at both of them10:55
Jucatoah let me try that....10:55
Jucatow3m, lynx,  links2, and elinks...10:55
Jucatoand I'll pick a favorite :P10:56
intelikeyand with frame buffering i can graphicly web browse in the console with elinks...   kewl10:56
stdincan even use my scroll wheel in elinks :p10:56
Jucatook, you have me curious about elinks :)10:56
Jucatoseems like w3m is installed by default...10:56
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_itahi all .. i want to create some audiocd from mp3 files via k3b.. im told mp3 i unsupported .. can anyone please help me find a software to create .wav from .mp3 ?!10:57
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intelikeyJucato links2 and elinks are much alike.   both can do graphics or not  and both do java script  but elinks does ssl by defauld and links2 doesn't.      and yes w3m is probably the lightest of them all.10:57
Jucatointelikey: dunno what ssl is... is it good?10:57
lupine_85https://10:58
intelikeysecure webpages10:58
Jucatoaaah10:58
stdin_ita: install libk3b2-mp310:58
Jucatokool10:58
intelikeyJucato like the ubuntu forums10:58
Jucatoand the wikis10:58
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_itastdin: ok thank you i try right away10:59
Jucatolinks2 is the 2nd version of links, I presume?10:59
intelikeyJucato and if you are at all like i am and don't like white background   you'll want to edit /etc/elinks/elinks.conf  line     set document.colors.use_document_colors =    change from 2  to  110:59
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intelikeyJucato i recon.10:59
gnomefreakJucato: sort of11:00
Jucatokool.11:00
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gnomefreakiirc links didnt have -g11:00
gnomefreaklinks2 does11:00
_itastdin: me again, if libk3b... is correct package name i cant find it in my adept/package manager11:00
Jucatowon't install links... links2 then :)11:00
intelikeyyes gnomefreak that's the way i remember it11:00
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stdin_ita: you need the multiverse repo enabled11:01
intelikeyJucato try them in the gui  and in the console.    i use elinks in or out of X11:01
Jucato!libk3b2-mp311:01
seven11and one more a good irc client for the console11:01
ubotulibk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 100 kB11:01
Jucatostdin: it's in universe11:02
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intelikeyseven11 i like bitchx11:02
intelikeysome prefer irssi11:02
intelikeythere is also xchat-text  but i don't know anybody that likes it.11:03
Jucatoirssi, because it's installed by default....11:03
JucatoI think I'm going to learn elinks and w3m for the moment...11:03
_ita!universe11:03
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:03
_itawow nice bot, nice ppl here thanks again i think i can do it from here .)11:03
intelikeythere really isn't a dimes worth of differance in irssi and bx   when you bet past the default configs11:04
intelikeys/bet/get/11:04
intelikeygit11:04
Jucatointelikey: except if you need to use what's installed by default really quick11:04
intelikeygot11:04
intelikeygut11:04
intelikeyJucato and that.11:05
intelikeyi gat me past that somehow.11:05
Jucatohey kool... elinks has mouse support... but... kinda feels weird that there's mouse support :)11:05
intelikeyJucato so does links211:06
Jucatoso I see11:06
intelikeyin or out of the console11:06
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nvman90still having problems with starting x...11:06
_itai think i have enabled my universe with adept at de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu .. im using breezy maybe thats a problem !?11:07
Jucato_ita: the package name might be different in breezy. not really sure11:07
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_itaok thanks again11:07
intelikeyman it takes a while for     tty24 [root@~]  badblocks -w /dev/hdc11:08
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Jucatoah w3m does have mouse support too...11:10
Jucatointelikey: links2's -g only works if X is running right?11:11
Jucatonot again....11:11
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Conhehow-to running cobol program ?11:29
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eMaX_anyone uses firefox here and can test whether he can browse to the following page: http://www.ch.map24.com/12:03
eMaX_My firefox crashes immediately12:03
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sonicGBeMaX_: my firefox is fine12:05
JucatoeMaX_: takes a long time to load... but not crashing12:05
sonicGBmah fahfahx ees not taken by ur phisch!12:05
eMaX_damn.12:05
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luca_beMaX_: often this is due to plugins, is that a Flash page?12:06
eMaX_mnott@linux:~$ firefox http://www.ch.map24.com/12:06
eMaX_Segmentation fault12:06
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eMaX_well it contains a java applet12:07
rpvhi all12:07
sonicGBwot contains a java applet?12:07
luca_beMaX_: Have you installed java from the repositories?12:07
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luca_beMaX_: or on your own? (from sun.com I mean)12:07
sonicGBOK, I actually tried www.ch.map24.com now... firefox 2.0.0.1 on macosx tiger with latest updates, it works fine12:08
eMaX_yes. anyway don't worry will solve that anoter time12:09
eMaX_thanks12:10
luca_bloading on Kubuntu Edgy 6.10 right now, seems OK12:10
eMaX_I've got it on edgy12:10
eMaX_and also, konqueror does not allow to search a route on that page, it tells me there are javascript errors12:10
luca_beMaX_: can you open a terminal and paste "dpkg -s sun-java5-plugin | grep Version"12:10
luca_band report the output12:10
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eMaX_Version: 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu112:11
luca_beMaX_: Hmm. Installed correctly12:11
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luca_beMaX_: you may want to retry instlaling the plugin and see if the problem persists (apt-get install --reinstall sun-java5-plugin)12:12
luca_b(do that with firefox closed, of course)12:12
eMaX_about:plugins also says that:12:12
eMaX_    Dateiname: libjavaplugin_oji.so12:12
eMaX_    Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0_0812:12
luca_beMaX_: Either temporarily unistall the plugin and see if firefox crashes still, or try reinstalling the plugin12:13
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eMaX_reinstalled, still crashes.12:15
eMaX_never mind, IE shows it and it is the only page so far that doesn't work, good enough for me to run up my vmware12:15
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lupine_85eMaX_: how about konqueror ?12:17
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eMaX_as I said, gives JS error12:19
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eMaX_must be their stupid snowflakes12:19
sdlnxgksnowflakes where?12:19
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Stalwartsnowflakes on webpages suck more than black holes12:22
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sdlnxgkStalwart why is that snowflakes suck???12:23
lupine_85xsnow++12:23
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Stalwartsdlnxgk: snowflakes must be cold and wet, not javascripted and annoying12:25
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sdlnxgklol12:25
sdlnxgkI agree with that !!12:25
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sdlnxgkfirefox been having issues with java and flash, just seems to freeze up12:26
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Stalwartsdlnxgk: get adblock12:26
luca_bsdlnxgk: Means the plugins aren't behaving properly12:26
lupine_85lol12:26
lupine_85> 800MB last night12:27
lupine_85(edgy->feisty)12:27
Stalwarti installed feisty hour ago12:27
luca_bah, was about to ask that12:27
sdlnxgkluca_b I think it means that the plug-ins are higher then what I have installed12:27
Stalwartok, need to go12:27
Stalwartbb12:27
luca_bsdlnxgk: I try to avoid sites that use Flash, not because of the plugins but because I hate the technology12:27
luca_bsdlnxgk: and did you try with konqueror?12:28
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sdlnxgkya I try to avoid them too but sometimes I need to get info from there page and just freezes and I have to stop the process:(12:28
luca_bFF's architecture has some problems, I don't think that plugins activate in a separate thread12:28
sdlnxgkya same thing12:28
Stalwartkonq and opera are better12:29
luca_bsdlnxgk: then it's definitely a plugin issue12:29
Stalwartkonq4 will have webkit engine!!! \o/12:29
einstein_gksudo gedit /etc/fsta  <--- and im getting gksudo command not found error :(12:30
luca_bStalwart: agreed, IMO FF is mostly a Win32 application, at least for some design philosophies12:30
Stalwarteinstein_: use kdesu12:30
einstein_yy...12:30
luca_bStalwart: WebKit is not scheduled to be included in KDE 4 AFAIK, but it may be, depends how the Unity project progesses12:30
sdlnxgkluca_b  I like FF and it seems to work better on Kubuntu then my windows machine at work..12:30
Stalwartluca_b: i'm sure 4.1 will include unity12:31
Stalwartok, must go for real =\12:31
luca_bsdlnxgk: I haven't used Windows in a long time, I don't know how FF fares there12:32
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sdlnxgkthe only think I do know is that it pretty much works out of the box in linux and as a win32 application you have to set things up to work..12:32
sdlnxgkI wish I could change the OS at work but think the hospital would be a tad bit pissed off at me ;)12:33
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ForgeAusI'm ba-ack12:54
ForgeAusand managed to expand my disk!12:54
ForgeAususing system recovery tools cd or something from sourceforge...12:54
ForgeAuswith some help from gpart...12:54
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ForgeAushey all :)01:05
ForgeAusso now I'm running kubuntu...01:05
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gianlux89cswho is hacker??01:08
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naelphinif i have xubuntu installed and want to change to kubuntu, how would i do it?01:10
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soulridernaelphin: you can just install KDE01:10
soulrideror install kubuntu-desktop01:10
naelphinwill it replace xubuntu?01:11
soulrideri think doing\"aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" will be best01:11
naelphinor will the clash and crash01:11
soulrideri think you cans till log back into XFCE01:11
soulrideri mean01:11
soulriderthe only difference01:11
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soulrideris the graphic enviroment01:11
soulriderKDE or XFCE01:11
soulridertheres really no other difference01:11
naelphinand if i change back, i just need to unselect the desktop meta?01:11
naelphinand it'll go back to xfce?01:11
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soulridernaelphin: im not sure01:22
soulriderbut i doubt things will get screwed up01:22
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jerpnaelphin: you can have both if you have the disk space and know how to add the right entries into the login screen01:33
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rpvnaelphin: install kubuntu-desktop and in kdm you can switch between kde and xfce01:35
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naelphinI got kmag, how do i make it always load in bottom edge mode? when i restart it goes back to an ordinary window01:37
naelphinthanks for help also01:37
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jerpnaelphin: right click on the titlebar and use Advance/Special Window Settings  and tinker away01:43
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kokuryuumoin01:44
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thea_hello01:46
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D4rklyhow can i install an rmp ?01:47
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krzysztofno england01:47
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jerpmeka leka hi meka hiny ho01:47
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[GuS] hi!01:49
jerpmorning Gus01:50
[GuS] morning jerp :)01:54
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momalcan someone tell me the thing to install grub the cmd... i installed kubuntu on friends pc and it didn't put grub on the sata harddrive so it just auto boots window >_<01:57
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Whopperhi02:05
Whopperhow do i change my screen resolution?02:05
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brandonhello, I need help mounting my sdb1 ext3 drive02:08
uyusukmercury messenger install help02:09
uyusukplease02:09
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ForgeAusback02:10
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ForgeAusmercury messenger?02:10
uyusukyes02:10
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vrunHi all :-)02:10
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vrunI am sitting in front of a kubuntu edgy ... that has  a  ...Section "Module" load "glx" EndSection... but insists that ...Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"....02:14
vrunany ideas anyone ?02:14
ForgeAuswhich is better WMaker Afterstep or what?02:14
ForgeAusno idea vrun02:15
vrunThanks ForgeAus02:16
lupine_85vrun: any errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?02:17
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vrunlupine_85: nothing I found serious ... a couple of "could not init font files" and "error opening security policy"02:19
vrunYou think of anything specific ?02:19
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lupine_85vrun: I was looking for "cannot load GLX" errors... :s nothing's ever simple02:20
lupine_85anything unusual in glxinfo ?02:20
momalHow do I instal grub if the primary harddrive is sata and is ntfs (/dev/sda) and I want to get grub on there or someway to get /dev/hdc (linux) to boot using grub02:21
vrunlots and lots of "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."  :-) :-) :-)02:22
lupine_85OpenGL renderer string OK? version string?02:22
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vrun...see THATS the funny stuff ... NO rendering string at all ;-)02:22
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vrunobviously glxinfo doesn't give info if there is no GLX <sigh>02:23
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vrun...or am I not getting what you just wrote?02:24
uyusukhow can  install to mercury mesenger in ubuntu...Can you help me?02:25
vrunbtw "(WW)" in /var/log/Xorg.0.log" says :02:26
vrun(II) Module vbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"02:26
vrun        compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.1.002:26
vrun        ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.002:26
vrun(II) LoadModule: "glx"02:26
vrun(WW) Warning, couldn't open module glx02:26
vrun(II) UnloadModule: "glx"02:26
vrun(EE) Failed to load module "glx" (module does not exist, 0)02:26
vrun... (sorry for the flood) -vrun-02:26
lupine_85there we go!02:26
lupine_85so the glx module doesn't exist02:26
vrunYUP ... but where is it gone to ? :-)02:27
lupine_85have you updated your kernel or your video drivers recently?02:27
lupine_85there was an issue recently where a non-ABI kernel upgrade clobbered certain nvidia drivers02:27
lupine_85try a reinstall02:27
vrun(not me) but YES ... the proud owner of this machine has updated recently ...02:27
lupine_85sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx02:28
lupine_85that might do the trick02:28
vrun...this machine is an INTEL 855 (810) on board02:28
vrun;-/02:28
dustanyone installed cinelerra on edgy?02:28
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lupine_85oh... ok :/02:29
lupine_85I'm not sure where those drivers would be hidden02:29
lupine_85try searching for intel in adept and updating/installing anything likely-looking02:29
vrunI thought they are in the 810 module these days ...iow all x,org modules are in the respective drivers (or am I totally out of line) ?02:30
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lupine_85vrun: could be it, yeah02:31
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lupine_85try reinstall the relevant xorg-driver- package02:31
lupine_85also, see if the glx file is in /usr/lib/xorg anywhere02:31
vrunok ... will do now ... thanks ... brb02:31
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soulriderdoes anyone her eprogram in python ?02:33
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pasturogoodmorning i have a problem with kubuntu 6.06 if  i click add/del program to go this window "another process is using the packaging system database" but i don't see process02:56
Stalwartpasturo: are you sure? probably update notifier uses it02:56
ForgeAustheres a command that synaptic told me to fix that02:56
ForgeAuskdesu apt-get with a -d switch or something... do some web browsing I aren't sure I'm right exactly about it... theres proably more02:57
brandonJucato: you here?02:57
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Jucatobrandon: yep?02:58
pasturothanks02:58
brandoncould you help me mount my ext302:59
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Jucatobrandon: hm.. I'm not really good with mounting... I just use the Disk & Filesystems module in System Settings when I need to03:00
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brandondoes it mount it for you?03:02
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Jucatoyep.03:04
brandonhow, click new?03:04
Jucatoyou have to enter Administrator Mode, then click new03:04
Guardianhmm03:04
brandoni did and nothing happens03:04
Guardianwhere is the konqueror cache ?03:04
Guardiani opened a page this morning03:05
Guardianbut it is already gone03:05
Guardiancould i get it back from my local drive ? :)03:05
Jucatobrandon: no dialog box pops up?03:05
brandonno03:05
pasturoi have make apt-get with a -d but don't go03:05
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Jucatohm... check if it's not covered by other windows03:06
pasturono03:06
Jucatothat was for brandon03:06
pasturoa ok03:06
brandonJucato: it is not.03:07
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Jucatohm.. strange...03:07
brandonyeah.03:07
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Trist_anWhen I right click on a file and do send by e-mail, it doesn't work. I'm using kubuntu and I'd like to e-mail directly with thunderbird. Is it possible?03:08
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brandonTrist_an: set you email in system settings prefered applications03:10
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brandonexcuse me, default applications03:11
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brandonalso check the program settings03:11
Jucato!fstab | brandon03:11
ubotubrandon: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions03:11
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esaymanyone know how to disable the graphical shutdown?03:14
esaymit causes my ati card to lock up03:14
brandonJucato: how do i see where the drive is located again03:14
Stalwartdisable splash03:14
brandoncat /proc/something03:14
lupine_85that graphical shutdown is funny03:14
esaymin grub?03:14
Trist_anbrandon, thunderbird is already my defalut mail client03:14
Stalwartesaym: yes, there was cheatcode for kernel to disable bootsplash03:14
lupine_85fugly hack means it's tied to kdm rather than shutdown...03:14
brandonTrist_an: check the program settings03:15
brandonalso check that the other email program isn't set to default03:15
esaymok thanks, i should have thought of that03:15
Trist_anbut when I click right and choose send by e-mail it says that cannot find /bin/ktbmail03:15
Jucatobrandon: "sudo fdisk -l"? not entirely sure03:15
Trist_anbrandon, where can I check program settings. I went to kcontrol03:15
brandonyeah03:15
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brandonsystem settings default applications03:16
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Trist_anthen KDE components, default applications03:16
brandonor settings, configure _____03:16
brandonin the program03:16
Trist_anAnd here for mail is mozilla-thunderbird03:16
brandonthan check the program03:17
brandonwhat email client defaults, and in what program03:17
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Trist_anIn thunderbird I have some config but I don't know what I should change03:18
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Trist_anin kcontrol, thunderbird is the default mail client03:18
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brandoni mean where are you clicking that opens this other email03:20
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brandonJucato: does this look about good?03:20
brandon....       /dev/sdb1       /media/Smith    ext3        user,auto      0       003:21
pasturoan other process could be adaptec03:21
brandonlol03:21
Jucatobrandon: here's mine: /dev/hdb8 /media/temp ext3 users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 003:22
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brandoni just saw some crazy number after udf on cdrom and got curious03:23
brandonthought maybe the hd needed one03:23
brandonso now it's just save and mount -a in terminal?03:23
Trist_anfor example I have a file on my desktop I want to e-mail, I right click and do send by e-mail but it wants to use another program I don't have while I want to use thunderbird03:23
Trist_anI think it has something to do with konqueror but I don't know where to configure that03:24
Jucatobrandon: um.. I think you need to put "default" among the options03:24
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DaSkreechMorning nixternal03:24
Jucatobrandon: I mean "defaults".03:24
DaSkreechMorning nikkiana03:24
brandonwhere Jucato03:24
Jucato"user, auto, defaults"03:24
DaSkreechsounds fstabby03:24
brandondone, now how do i mount it03:25
Jucatomount -a03:25
DaSkreech0_O03:25
DaSkreechAnyone else got an update for OO.o?03:25
brandonfor what?03:25
DaSkreechbrandon: Me?03:26
RealisticDragonyes DaSkreech, d'ling now03:26
DaSkreechOk two questions03:26
DaSkreech what happened to 2.1?03:26
RealisticDragonactually i started d'ling it last night, for some reason my DSL has been throttled to 5k/sec for apt :(03:26
DaSkreechand how do you have a versioned font?03:26
Jucatoopenofficeorg 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 0 in edgy-updates03:26
RealisticDragon2.1 probably wont get in DaSkreech, except in backports03:27
brandonshoot, what do I have to install for mp3 support?03:27
Jucato(I probably would get an update if I actually had it installed :P)03:27
RealisticDragonand fonts have versions too - just look at latex ;)03:27
Jucatobrandon: libxine-extracodecs03:27
Jucatohm...03:27
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brandonyeah it auto installed this time03:27
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brandonYEAH~!03:27
Jucato2.1 can be backported to Edgy only if it's already in feisty03:27
Jucato!openoffice.org feisty03:27
ubotuopenoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB03:27
DaSkreechI would be annoyed except I don't know hat 2.1 offers03:27
DaSkreechI heard it's faster03:27
Jucatooh there... maybe they would backport soonish...03:28
RealisticDragonohhh nice feature in the bot03:28
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RealisticDragon!kde feisty03:28
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB03:28
Jucatomaybe, maybe not... Dapper still doesn't have Firefox 2.0 iirc..03:28
RealisticDragon5:47??03:28
RealisticDragonfrom the future :P03:28
DaSkreechJucato: Never will03:29
JucatoRealisticDragon: that's just the version of the metapackage, not KDE itself03:29
brandonuh yeah uh hmmm, adept batch is stuck on 100% done.  can I close it?03:29
DaSkreechToo many things rely on gtk for one app to break it03:29
Jucato!kdebase feisty03:29
ubotukdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11 (feisty), package size 48 kB, installed size 92 kB03:29
JucatoDaSkreech: meaning Firefox 2 breaks GTK on dapper?03:30
Sharketorhello all03:30
DaSkreechYeah03:30
SharketorI'm trying to install lopster203:30
Jucatoah03:30
brandonthe audio popping seriously needs to get fixed03:30
DaSkreechor very possibly would :)03:30
brandonhow can I install drivers for my audio card?03:30
Jucatoheh I thought you were speaking with definitive authority :P03:30
Sharketorafter ./autogen.sh command, it says: adjust your ACLOCAL_FLAGS03:31
DaSkreechUpgrading firefox forces an upgrade of all sorts of other apps some of which may not be tested so let sleeping dogs lie03:31
DaSkreechJucato: They had a blog entry on why it wouldn't happen03:31
Jucatoah03:31
Jucatotoo bad03:31
Sharketorbecause it doesn't find 4 autoconf macros03:31
Sharketorplease help me03:31
brandonJucato: is it possible for me to install audio drivers?03:31
Jucatobrandon: um.. dunno... do you need to?03:32
brandonyeah, my audio pops03:32
Jucatoah...03:32
Jucato!sound03:32
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin03:32
brandonnah, neither of those work for me03:33
brandoni'm wondering if I should up the voltage on SPDIF/PCIE in bios03:33
brandonif that could potentially cure popping03:34
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brandonclicking, crackling03:35
brandonwhatever you may call it03:35
Jucatono clue really....03:35
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brandonyeah but if i set it it locks me out of my bios and i have to reset everything03:36
brandonwhich sucks03:36
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strumpbyxanHi, I was going to install Kubuntu Edgy, what command should I use to start the installation?03:36
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brandoncommand, don't you just put the cd in03:37
brandonit should be an option03:37
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brandonstart install with OEM or text mode03:37
strumpbyxanI just come to a console when I choose "Start or install kubuntu"03:37
brandoni was having the same problem, I had to format with a windows cd03:38
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brandonxp actually03:38
strumpbyxanI have linux partitions prepared03:38
brandoni guess you can format with anything though03:38
brandonwell i'm not sure what to do thatn03:39
brandonthan*03:39
strumpbyxanOK. thanks anyway, Ill ask at some forum :)03:39
Jucatoif you're using the Desktop CD (Live CD), I don't think you can install without the GUI running03:39
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strumpbyxanso I should 'startx' ?03:40
Jucatoyou can try, although it should have done that automatically in the first place03:40
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strumpbyxanOK03:40
Trist_anbrandon, ok, I found that you have to do a script yourself for that to work03:41
Trist_anand found the script so it is fine now03:41
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BluesKajHowdy all! :)03:42
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DaSkreechHey hey Old Blue03:42
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BluesKajHey DaSkreech, ...A friend sent me an internet Christmas card with "midi" coded music in it ... what plugin or player do you suggest is required to hear the music?03:44
exscan someone help me with my bcm4318?.. Currently using kubuntu 6.06LTS.03:44
brandonTrist_an: script for what03:44
DaSkreech!midi03:44
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo03:44
malicer, 03:44
DaSkreechBluesKaj: sometimes I love that bot :)03:44
DaSkreech!jp03:44
ubotu #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 03:44
malicer?03:44
BluesKajit's cool DaSkreech :)03:44
Jucato:)03:45
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DaSkreechmalicer: What language? :003:45
DaSkreechWhats Chiniese?03:45
Jucato!cn03:45
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk03:45
DaSkreechAh :)03:45
malicerI'm form china03:45
malicercn03:45
DaSkreechI wonder if we hsould just have a asian03:45
DaSkreechmalicer: Thanks :)03:45
DaSkreechfor those who are not good with kanji etc03:46
DaSkreechOr hiranga03:46
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DaSkreechmalicer: need help?03:47
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malicer03:47
Trist_anbrandon, to send a file with thunderbird when right clickiing on it and choosing send by e-mail03:47
brandonI like contact03:48
DaSkreechmalicer: can you type /j #ubuntu-cn03:48
brandonKontact03:48
DaSkreechbrandon: I'm a basKet case03:48
brandonI have Kontact down so good that I can configure it and all my contacts in under 5 minutes03:48
DaSkreech:-(03:48
brandonlol, no you're not03:48
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brandoneveryone is a bit zany03:49
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brandonwhy do you like thunderbird03:49
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brandonin comparison, I like Konqueror more than firefox, but don't use it because it simply doesn't do what firefox does03:50
brandoni don't understand why konqueror can't just lie about it's browser detection method03:50
exsif i wanted to install gedit under kuuntu, what would I do?..03:50
brandonjust say it's IE or firefox03:50
BluesKaj!playmidi03:50
ubotuplaymidi: MIDI player. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4debian-5 (edgy), package size 112 kB, installed size 316 kB03:50
brandonor why it can't get support over the web03:50
HymnToLifeexs, sudo apt-get install gedit03:50
brandonwith it's high popularity03:50
HymnToLifethough I can't see why wou would want to install it03:51
DaSkreechbrandon: go to KOnqueror -> tools -> browser identification03:51
DaSkreechMakes gmail work instantly :)03:51
exsHymnToLife: "E: Couldn't find package gedit"..03:51
DaSkreechexs: Why do you need gedit?03:51
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HymnToLife!info gedit03:51
ubotugedit: light-weight text editor. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 689 kB, installed size 2496 kB03:51
Trist_anwell I'm used to thunderbird. Why change, it does a fine job03:51
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DaSkreechIt's a goodthing!03:52
HymnToLifeexs, do you have a net connection ?03:52
exsDaSkreech:  I'm trying to add the non-free repos.. but i need gedit editor03:52
DaSkreechexs: No you dont03:52
exsHymnToLife:  yes, using kubuntu 6.06 LTS now.03:52
goodthingheyyy DaSkreech :)03:52
exsDaSkreech:  ok03:52
DaSkreechexs: Where are you reading?03:52
exs(fresh install, i'm having to use wired connection, and trying to get my bcm 4318 to work)03:52
HymnToLifeexs, you don't need gedit to do that, any text editor will do03:52
exsi need to install ndiswrapper03:53
DaSkreechexs: give me the link that you are reading :)03:53
exsbut i can't find synaptics in kubuntu03:53
DaSkreechI'll walK you through03:53
HymnToLifeThat's what I find so annoying in Ubuntu doc03:53
exshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper03:53
HymnToLifeit always uses GNOME Stuff03:53
Stalwartanyone here using opera on kubuntu?03:53
exsHymnToLife:  awesome!03:53
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HymnToLife!anyone | Stalwart03:54
ubotuStalwart: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:54
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DaSkreechexs: Which line are you on?03:55
Stalwartoki, i can't run opera because.../bin/sh: /usr/lib/opera/9.10-20061214.6/opera: not found.... but file exists, i can open it in VIM o.O03:55
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HymnToLiferunning 64 bit ubuntu ?03:56
exsDaSkreech:  1mb dsl03:56
StalwartHymnToLife: yes03:56
exsHymnToLife:  32bit03:56
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HymnToLifeStalwart, you can't run 32bit binaries in 64 bit OSes...03:56
StalwartHymnToLife: i can on other distros03:57
DaSkreechexs: I meant where have you reached in the walkthrough. Which line was the last one you did?03:57
Stalwartand other ubuntu users run 32bit opera fine on amd6403:57
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exsDaSkreech:  oh, I haven't even started. It just says u need ndiswrapper03:57
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HymnToLifenot ootb03:57
DaSkreechAh03:57
DaSkreechok03:57
HymnToLifesearch the wiki for it, you need to install 32 bit libs03:57
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DaSkreechexs: so you are editing the sources.list?03:58
exsDaSkreech:  i think i need to, to install ndiswrapper :S.. i can't find synaptics on here03:58
DaSkreechexs: press Alt+space03:58
DaSkreechtype adept03:58
DaSkreechpress enter03:58
DaSkreech that's synaptic for KDE03:58
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HymnToLifethough IMO it stinks03:59
exsDaSkreech:  so, adept is synaptics?03:59
DaSkreechHymnToLife: Just a little smelly03:59
HymnToLifeI'd install Synaptic if I were you :p03:59
DaSkreechexs: it does the same job :)03:59
DaSkreechHymnToLife: Though we really should get a maintainer for it04:00
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lupine_85adept > synaptic04:00
HymnToLifeor use KPackage instead04:00
brandonadept_manager is the full name of it04:00
lupine_85and it's adept_manager these days04:00
DaSkreechFor some things04:00
brandonif you want to make a shortcut04:00
lupine_85or apt-get ... :p04:00
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DaSkreechhi nikkiana_lappy04:01
JucatoDapper = adept; Edgy = adept_manager04:01
brandonapt-get AUDIO DRIVER WITH NO POPPING04:01
HymnToLifewell, I still like my Synaptic sometimes04:01
nikkiana_lappyhi DaSkreech04:01
DaSkreechexs: Got that far?04:01
HymnToLifeespecially when I don't know the exact name for a package04:01
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exsDaSkreech:  i've opened adept and can't find ndiswrapper04:01
DaSkreech!ndiswrapper04:01
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:01
HymnToLifeexs, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list04:02
HymnToLife!pastebin04:02
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:02
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exsHymnToLife:  i don't know how to get my sources.list up, what is a kubuntu editor?04:03
DaSkreech!info ndiswrapper04:03
ubotuPackage ndiswrapper does not exist in any distro I know04:03
DaSkreechexs: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:03
DaSkreechexs: may want to do that from Alt+F204:04
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exshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38374/04:05
ImrahilIs there a program for KDE that provides equivalent or similar features to the Gnome Deskbar? It is a launcher bar that integrates well with other gnome programs, including chat, history, bookmarks, contacts, urls and more. Similar ones I have found for KDE are standard alt-f2 launcher and katapult. Katapult is nice, but its interface is limited and development seems to have died off04:05
brandonbbl yall04:05
DaSkreechImrahil: Katapult tries04:06
DaSkreechIt hasn't died off just got disorganized04:06
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DaSkreech they have had a few new versions but they seriously need some documentation04:06
ImrahilDaSkreech: there seems to be no website atm04:06
DaSkreech and for some reason a lot of the new stuff (spelling, history plugins etc) don't seem to wend towards kubuntu04:07
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ImrahilDaSkreech: can you point me to the current development svn?04:07
DaSkreechImrahil: As I said disorganized :) they have been making a concerted effort to pull together coherence for about a month04:07
DaSkreechYou can join #katapult and poke tvo or Mez04:08
DaSkreechmost vocal of the group04:08
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olimpicoHow can i install kubuntu in a remore Computer?04:09
olimpicoremote?04:09
compilerwriterHow exactly does katapult work?04:10
Jucatocompilerwriter: press Alt+Space04:10
DaSkreechcompilerwriter: on a user level or a technical level?04:10
Jucatotype in the Program, Document, Bookmark, or playlist item you want to launch/use/play. you can also use it as a simple calculator04:10
compilerwriterboth04:10
DaSkreechon a user level you enable which plugin (or catalogs) you want enabled and search through them04:11
DaSkreechOn a technical level it has a plugin structre where you write a index/caching routine that gathers info and gets a prioroty04:11
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BluesKajHow do i tell Thunderbird to open links in Firefox , not konq ?04:13
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JucatoBluesKaj: "sudo update-alternatives --confige x-www-browser" if setting Firefox as the default browser doesn't work04:14
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DaSkreechexs: How are you?04:14
BluesKajweird thing is , FF is the default browser'04:14
JucatoBluesKaj: then you need that command04:15
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BluesKajthx Jucato04:17
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JucatoOnly KDE apps follow teh "Default Applications" settings. Thunderbird doesn't04:17
compilerwriterSo it is a quicklaunch thing in a way04:18
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BluesKajI have nothing against konq , it just doesn't have the ease of setup , and plugins that i need04:19
Imrahilcompilerwriter: sure. some compare it to quicksilver on macos04:19
Jucatoplugins? or extensions?04:20
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DaSkreechI would call it plugins since it basically can't work with out them04:26
DaSkreechso they don't really "extend" very much04:26
BluesKajnope, the url still opens in konq , no matter what i do04:26
DaSkreechImrahil: Ah Quicksilver on the mac is cool04:26
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BluesKajJucato that command seems to just give a list of options but it doesn't seem to change anything04:28
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Thunderbird isn't a KDE application04:29
DaSkreech it doesn't care what KDE thinks04:29
JucatoBluesKaj: did you choose FIrefox in the list to be the default web browser04:29
BluesKajwhat list?04:29
JucatoBluesKaj: the command I gave you. what did you do with it?04:29
Jucato<BluesKaj> Jucato that command seems to just give a list of options but it doesn't seem to change anything <-- you're given an option which to use as the default browser04:30
BluesKajI pasted it in the terminal04:30
DaSkreechexs: Hello?04:30
BrianSteffensuh04:31
DaSkreechOr not04:31
BrianSteffenshow do you exit frostwire...04:31
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JucatoBluesKaj: then? it will give you a numbered list. you enter which browser you want to use as the default. type in the number for Firefox04:32
BrianSteffensnevermind go tit04:33
BrianSteffenshow stupid04:33
BluesKajJucato, I don't see a numbered list04:33
DaSkreechBrianSteffens: to go tit?04:34
JucatoBluesKaj: you said it gives you a list of options? enter the command again: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser04:34
BluesKajok, that command worked , thx Jucato04:35
DaSkreechanyone else have konqueror always switch the search engine back to Google groups every now and then?04:35
Jucatomy fault. there was a typo04:35
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d34l3rhi all04:35
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d34l3ri need a good DVD Ripper for Kubuntu... has anybody got an idea what program to use?04:36
JucatoDaSkreech: must have pressed the keyboard shortcut to go through the search engines04:36
DaSkreechI think I would have picked up on that by now04:36
DaSkreechK3b? :)04:36
d34l3r-.-04:36
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d34l3rnope04:36
d34l3rdoes not support 1:1 copies of DVDs04:36
Stalwartdd supports 1:1 copies04:37
d34l3r? dd?04:37
d34l3roO04:37
Stalwartdd04:37
d34l3rwhat's dd04:37
StalwartDestroyData04:37
HymnToLife!info dd04:37
ubotuPackage dd does not exist in any distro I know04:37
d34l3rwhere to get04:37
HymnToLifelol04:37
Stalwarttype dd in terminal :D04:37
DaSkreechd34l3r: It's installed already04:37
d34l3rhmm ok04:38
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Stalwartdd if=/dev/dvd of=image.iso04:38
Stalwartthen open image with mplayer04:38
Stalwartor vlc04:38
DaSkreechBrianSteffens: So how do you close Frostwire?04:38
Stalwartbtw, next major version of vlc will have qt4 gui and will look better in kde ;)04:38
d34l3rhow to see when it is finished04:39
d34l3r?04:39
HymnToLifeNice04:39
Stalwartd34l3r: it will tell you "x bytes copied" and exit04:39
d34l3rafter it is finishe04:39
d34l3rd04:39
HymnToLifeI'l still stay as far away from it as I can manage04:39
d34l3rkk thx04:39
Stalwartyou'll get 1:1 copy of dvd disc04:39
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Stalwartyou can even burn it with k3b04:40
d34l3ryop04:40
d34l3rthx04:40
d34l3rdoes it also support CSS/other copy protections of Video DVDs?04:40
Stalwartd34l3r: afaik dd just make exact copy of copy protection04:41
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d34l3rso it should worke04:41
d34l3rwork*04:41
DaSkreechYup04:41
Stalwartplayers usually complain about copy-protected iso images i create =P04:41
d34l3r:-D04:41
megapigcan anyone tell how to change my screen resolution to 1280x800 Widescreen format?04:42
Stalwartdd is ultimate tool but should be used with care, it can DestroyData for real04:42
HymnToLifemegapig, install proper drivers for your video card04:42
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megapigI don't know where to get the Drivers04:42
Stalwartmegapig: you'll need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, check wiki for details04:42
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HymnToLifeStalwart, yeah, but it's really useful when you actually _want_ to destroy data :p04:43
StalwartHymnToLife: =P~04:43
HymnToLifemegapig, what cind of card do you have ?04:43
Stalwartnvidia i guess04:43
megapigIntel GMA 900 Fast 3D04:43
HymnToLifeI know folks in Win who use obscure software to destroy data04:43
Stalwartah04:43
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megapigIntel 915 actually04:43
HymnToLifeI'm like "wtf ? on a decent OS, one comand will do it"04:43
Stalwarti know folks who use shareware software to change NIC MAC address04:44
DaSkreechHymnToLife: I know people who use Windows to destroy data04:44
HymnToLife!info 915resolution04:44
ubotu915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)04:44
DaSkreech they didn't intend or expect it to do so but whateever04:44
HymnToLifeDaSkreech, WIndows does not destroy data04:44
HymnToLifeit just makes it unreadable :p04:44
Stalwartvista doesn't install if detects kubuntu on hdd04:44
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HymnToLifeI have trouble like that with XP, too04:45
Stalwarti had to delete kubu from test box at work to get vista on it ;[04:45
Stalwartxp was installing fine04:45
verzonnenubotu: me04:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:45
DaSkreech!botabuse04:45
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...04:45
Stalwartin latvian "vista" means "chicken"04:45
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verzonnenDaSkreech: I wanted the url thats all04:46
HymnToLifeverzonnen, you still could have done that in /msg04:47
verzonnenDaSkreech: I have a problem with the scroll bar disapearing in firefox, checking to see if it was listed04:47
DaSkreechThe horizontal one?04:47
verzonnenDaSkreech: never tried PM b404:48
verzonnenBoth04:48
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megapighow do I install the "915resolution"?04:48
RugHowdy all04:48
verzonnenmostly the vertical one that is giving me headaches04:48
HymnToLifemegapig, with apt-get04:48
Stalwartcoooooooool, kde has autoclick feature04:48
HymnToLifeor Synaptic, or Aptitude, or Adept, or KPackage, or wget && dpkg -i...04:49
BrianSteffensdaskreech lol to close frostwire you have to go to options->settings or something and change whether it closes after transfers to immediately, then just close it04:49
HymnToLifeeven better04:49
HymnToLifedon't run it at all in the first place :p04:50
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megapigHymnToLife, can you tell me what to type in the Console?04:50
HymnToLifemegapig, sudo apt-get install 915resolution04:51
megapigthanks04:51
Rugmy mouse and keyboard (both USB) don't work after install (Fresh Edgy installation) so I rebooted (placed PS2 dongles on the keyboard and mouse) and now my mouse isn't working.  (Dmesg detects the PS2 mouse)04:51
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DaSkreechcan I force two instances of Kate?04:52
StalwartRug: check bios settings04:52
megapigInstaller the 915resolution. What do I do now to change the resolution?04:53
megapigInstalled*04:53
LeeJunFanRug: but X is probably looking in the wrong place for the mouse. perhaps run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:53
JucatoDaSkreech: yes. don't launch Kate with the -u (--use) option04:53
RugStalwart: bios is fine, (why else would dmesg detect it.)04:53
RugLeeJunFan: ok thanks I'll give that a try04:53
verzonnenDoes any one have a sugestion how to fix the scrollbars in firefox?04:54
Jucatoverzonnen: what do you mean?04:54
HymnToLifeverzonnen, I'm pretty sure there's a module in KControl to fix it04:55
Stalwartanyone knows where in kubuntu's control panel konqueror preloader is located?04:55
megapigHymnToLife: I just installed 915resolution, what should I do now to change the screen resolution to 1280x900?04:55
HymnToLifemegapig, dunno, never used it04:55
megapig800* >.<04:55
HymnToLifesearch the Wiki :)04:55
megapig:)04:55
JucatoStalwart: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Performance04:55
Stalwartthanks Jucato04:56
DaSkreechJucato: Thanks04:56
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JucatoStalwart, DaSkreech, np :)04:57
verzonnenJucato: my scrollbars disapear on me at times04:57
megapigHymnToLife, thanks for your help :)04:57
Jucatoverzonnen: are you on Edgy?04:57
verzonnenJucato: I am04:58
DaSkreechJucato: You realise replacing one letter in that changes the menaing of the question04:58
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verzonnenHymnToLife: I found that "module"04:58
DaSkreechs/gy/ge/g04:58
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Jucatoverzonnen: System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK+ Style and Fonts -> Install scrollbar fix04:59
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verzonnenJucato: I did find it, did not fix the problem though05:00
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DaSkreechhi intelikey05:01
verzonnenJucato: correction it did seem to fix it05:01
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verzonnenHymnToLife and Jucato thanx05:01
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DaSkreechYou are joking?05:02
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DaSkreech We have a button to fix gtk apps?05:02
verzonnennever thought to look into kde config for a fix for firefox :(05:02
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DaSkreechAnd they say KDE has too many options05:02
intelikeyDaSkreech05:02
verzonnennothing wrong with kde that a button can't fix I guess05:03
intelikeyverzonnen hmmm make it stay out of /root  with a button  :)05:03
DaSkreechOr a rejigger of your files05:04
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Jucatolol05:04
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=== HymnToLife cheers Jucato
lupine_85<click>05:04
Jucatodidn't even have to click a button :)05:04
HymnToLifeKDE rocks :p05:05
goodthinghmm, anyone happen te remember what that name was of that KDE program which allows one to alt+ctrl the opened windows into thumbnails, so one can choose it?05:06
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Jucato!kompose | goodthing05:06
ubotukompose: full screen task manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.3-1.3 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 432 kB05:06
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goodthingyes! we thank Jucato big time :)05:06
Jucato:O05:06
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goodthingoops, aptitude is unsure about my system settings since i canceled dpkg-reconfigure -a05:09
megapigHymnToLife, Thank you very much for your help! My screen resolution is set to 1280x800 and works just fine! :D05:09
HymnToLifenice to know :)05:09
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RugLeeJunFan: reconfiguring xserver didn't help05:12
DaSkreechHi aseigo05:12
DaSkreechJucato: Prep that button again05:12
Jucatowb intelikey05:13
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intelikeyRAZ-A-SMAKEN-FRATEN SMAKEN-FRATEN  </yocemite_sam>      is it impossable to make fat16 partitions ......05:13
Kr4t05intelikey: Er... Why would you want to use fat16?05:13
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intelikeyand don't tell me that a partition is not a fs  i know that.05:13
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aseigoDaSkreech: yo05:14
Rugintelikey: just do it manually with fdisk05:14
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intelikeyKr4t05 putting win95 on a disk05:14
Kr4t05intelikey: Ah, ok.05:14
HymnToLifeor use GParted if you like nice GUIs05:14
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Kr4t05^.^05:14
ajfhello05:14
intelikeyRug happen to know the max size ?05:14
HymnToLife!hi [ ajf05:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hi [ ajf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:14
HymnToLife!hi | ajf05:14
ubotuajf: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:14
RugFat16 Max size = 2Gb05:15
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HymnToLifeI guess that's enough for Win 95 :p05:15
ajfi'm looking for a guide to setup intel 945g, i'm using a laptop and i have a crappy res05:15
ibert!skype05:15
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto05:15
HymnToLifeajf, use 915resolution05:15
HymnToLife!info 915resolution05:16
ubotu915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)05:16
joheyI want Ktorrent to move finished downloads to another directory, but still share it. Is that possible?05:16
intelikeyummm hmmm and i can't see why it doesn't work....   unless 2g != 2G  ....05:16
ajfwhat's that? a driver or app to setup the driver?05:16
HymnToLifewow05:16
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HymnToLifeIS there an Ubuntu kFreeBSD too ?05:16
slow-motionhallo05:16
Rugintelikey: don't forget there are many ways to count GigaBytes05:16
HymnToLifeajf, dunno, I just know it'll let you have correct res05:16
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ajfHymnToLife: cant find that command05:17
ajfif it's a command05:17
HymnToLifeajf, install the package05:17
HymnToLifesudo apt-get install 915resolution05:17
HymnToLifeI can't tell you how to configure it though, search the Wiki05:18
intelikeyrug yeah  i'm shortening it to 2000m maybe it will work now.05:18
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verzonnen915resolution only works with Intel 800/900 series graphic chipsets.05:19
Rugintelikey: good idea05:19
HymnToLife[17:17]  <ajf> i'm looking for a guide to setup intel 945g, i'm using a laptop and i have a crappy res05:19
dsaltoshallo05:19
Rugintelikey: MS uses 1024bytes = 1kB05:19
HawkwindKr4t05: Snow plugin ?  Is that something that's just in SVN maybe ?05:19
dsaltosanyone knows why xgl when i activate XGL with ati drivers 8.28 fonts get small, difficult to read?05:20
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ArrAKeeNiop05:21
sdlnxgkTime to go play some World of Warcraft before the g/f  gets here.... Have a great day everyone !!!05:21
intelikeyhmmm dosfstools is 147kB unpacked  figure 40k for the docs that's smaller than ms's scandisk.exe was.05:21
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Rugintelikey: =) that'05:22
Rugis cause linux is better05:22
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DaSkreechaseigo: What's wiki day?05:22
JucatoDaSkreech: read his blog posts :)05:23
DaSkreechOh yeah blogs. I forget about those05:23
intelikeyRug that and the fact that there is no 'ascii' graphics involved.05:23
darkkish__>_>05:23
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Rughehe, I miss ascii....    I used to make ASCII movies on my C64 BBS05:24
Jucatois there a way to use a mouse in the console (tty)?05:24
hattagpm05:25
Jucato(just wondering, really)05:25
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hatta:)05:25
Jucatothanks :)05:25
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HawkwindKr4t05: Pingers!05:26
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aseigoDaSkreech: developer wiki day is when i and a bunch of others work on kde's new developer wiki05:27
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intelikeyhehhe this is rediculess  i have a 47m tar.gz file that contains the windows 95 install files plus the installed 95 system    that's like two copies almost  in 47m     why is linux so big.   just to get a console you have to install over 100m  of most distros.05:28
intelikeyit must be all the perl and python that is taking up all the space in the base systems.05:29
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koharuhi all05:32
intelikeywell i guess it worked maybe.  at least this time dosemu could boot it.   but i can't check the fs.05:33
intelikeyC:\>scandisk05:33
intelikeyYou cannot check or repair drive C because it is a network drive.05:33
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HawkwindKr4t05: You here ?05:43
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darkkish_someone say my name05:44
Jucatono darkkish_, I won't say your name05:44
Kr4t05Hawkwind: Yes.05:44
Jucato!kernel05:44
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild05:44
darkkish_thanks Jucato05:44
darkkish_damn how long would it take to compile a kernel?05:45
HawkwindKr4t05: Where are you getting this snow plugin for beryl ?  Is that in SVN ?05:45
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Kr4t05Hawkwind: I think so... *checks*05:45
Hawkwinddarkkish_: I have a script and a how-to that does it in about 45 minutes(depending on your system of course)05:46
intelikeydarkkish_ configuring it all and compiling it takes me about 4~6 hours   but a lot of that is configuring.05:46
darkkish_lol it took me aobut 10 minutes to compile a custom version of wine on an AMD 350005:46
Kr4t05Hawkwind: Yeah... Just use Trevino's SVN build repository. :)05:46
darkkish_but thats not including configuring05:46
intelikeydarkkish_  and your point is ?05:47
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HawkwindKr4t05: Ah ok.  I don't use SVN for it05:47
intelikeydarkkish_ knock a goose egg off that and you'd have this cpu05:47
JucatoHawkwind: in lfd?05:47
HawkwindJucato: Huh ?05:48
darkkish_lol05:48
Jucatoer.. the howto... nvm :)05:48
JucatoI always lose that link..05:48
HawkwindJucato: It's on the wiki05:48
Jucatooh yeah... silly me :)05:48
darkkish_well this cpu that i'm running is only a PIII 750MHz :p05:48
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Kr4t05Hrm... This is what I get for unplugging my system while it was still on. FSCK decided that some of my data was corrupt... :/05:49
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intelikeyhmmm it looks a bit odd having two things output to stdout   sox and mc05:51
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intelikeyi think i'll stops sox from displaying the running numbers05:52
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intelikeywhat is   eval   good for ?06:06
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DaSkreechMath06:07
DaSkreechreally really weak math06:07
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DaSkreechand bool stuff06:07
intelikeyhmmmm06:07
intelikeybool06:07
intelikeydrool06:07
Dr_willisBoolYa!06:07
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tdoghow can i convert .wav to ogg ???06:08
SSJtdog:oggenc, I think.06:09
DaSkreech!oggenc06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oggenc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
DaSkreech!info oggenc06:09
malik__a quick question.................is there any benefit of codeweavers crossover office to be installed?........and what can we do with it?06:09
ubotuPackage oggenc does not exist in any distro I know06:09
intelikeytdog or audacity06:09
tdogi have two wav file, i want them as sound for my login and log out06:09
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tdogbut  i have no idea how to add them to system sounds06:10
tdogaudacity ?? is that part of repository ?06:10
fdovingtdog: you can use kaudiocreator, with oggenc as encoder engine.06:10
tdogthanks06:11
tdogi will look for that program06:11
DaSkreechtdog: press Alt+Space06:11
DaSkreechtype kaudio06:11
DaSkreechpress enter06:11
DaSkreechFile -> encode file06:11
DaSkreechNot really great for batch stuff but whatchagonnado?06:11
intelikeytdog  as to login/logout sounds   see  /etc/kde#/kdm/kdm.conf  for that answer maybe06:11
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tdogthanks06:11
tdogthanks again06:12
intelikeythere is probably a gui way but i don't know it.06:12
fdovingtdog: make sure you select 'oggenc' from settings -> configure kaudiocreator -> engines (or whatever it's named the one at the bottom..)06:12
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malik__alt+space bar ........nothin happens06:12
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fdovingmalik__: try k -> run command. 'katapult' <enter>, then try alt+space again.06:13
SSJmalik__:Do you have Katapult running?06:13
karmikazehazard_!06:13
DaSkreechmalik__: Alt+F2 -> katapult -> alt+Space06:13
karmikazeomg i got onto my own network...06:13
karmikazei had to turn off the encryption and reboot my machine >_<06:13
malik__i have katapult installed.........dont know if its running or not06:13
jontecI have two problems with my amd64 laptop (edgy): The sound does not work (ask me for specifics) and I cannot get the processor speed to increase from 800Mhz when I am trying to us demanding programs like webrick for ruby on rails inside Konsole (I have tried to make KLaptop allow me to change the profiles, but after I tell it to and try... it crashes)06:13
intelikeytdog     apt-cache show vorbis-tools06:13
karmikazeanyone else confirm this?? to change wifi network you have to *Reboot*06:13
karmikaze>_<06:13
tdogwhat that dose ?06:14
intelikeygives you info.06:14
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fdovingtdog: instead of hacking kdm.conf you can set the login/logout sounds in 'system settings -> notifications' find 'KDE system notifications' (or something similar) in the dropdown list.06:15
tdogthanks ..06:15
tdogit seems they all running ogg files and not wav.. and this converter just removed my wav file.without converting ..06:16
tdogneed to look for it in trash i guess06:16
malik__a quick question.................is there any benefit of codeweavers crossover office to be installed?........and what can we do with it?06:16
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jontecOh and about the sound: a guy here told me to update my alsa driver, but it didn't help06:17
malik__i mean is there any real benefit for average net surfing linux user?06:17
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srednaThank you to whoever packaged digikam 0.9 <306:18
DaSkreechmalik__: You can run IE not sure if that helps06:18
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tdoghumm, i can not convert the wav file, it say is not supported format ..06:19
DaSkreechIs it PCM wav?06:19
malik__arrrrg i hate IE..........didnt use it when was on windows...........dont want it know since i have found linux06:20
tdogi think06:20
DaSkreechmalik__: It supposed to be a better wine06:20
DaSkreechFor non games :-)06:20
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malik__crossover office is better wine?06:21
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jontecoh and another thing... my computer's not using the swap partition that I made06:24
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fdovingjontec: for the swap issue, please have a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/248806:26
SSJjontec:Ideally, Linux won't touch the swap until you are running low(-ish) on RAM.  How much RAM do you have installed?06:26
fdovingSSJ: that's not entirely true. linux will swap evern with gigs of free memory.06:27
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SSJfdoving:Oh? Interesting.  What's the rational behind this, do you know?06:28
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fdovingSSJ: http://kerneltrap.org/node/320206:29
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jontecSSJ, fdoving: I was looking for a way to change it... so I went into system settings and attempted to change the swap which read essentially none and changed it to /dev/hda4. When I tried to enable the swap, it gave me an error. The mount point after the swap was assinged was none. Does this need to be changed? Oh and I'm aware of when it uses swap... I just wanted it on if it needed it... I am using 1GB ram.06:30
jontecfdoving: just read your last message06:30
fdovingjontec: the mountpoint for swap partitions should be set to 'none'06:30
SSJfdoving:Woah - thanks for the link!06:31
jontecfodving: okay... then do I need to just commit the changes and restart?06:31
Dr_willisHmm   MigrationSERVER uses Kubuntu as a base and includes additional features    http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03923#006:31
fdovingjontec: you don't need to restart. you can use 'sudo swapoff -a' and 'sudo swapon -av' from konsole.06:31
jontecswapon on /dev/hda406:33
jontecswapon: /dev/hda4: Invalid argument06:33
Dr_willisdouble chedk with sudo fdisk -l  to verify where the swap partition is.06:33
Dr_willisand double check your command you typed. ;)06:33
fdovingjontec: then swap isn't on /dev/hda4.. or something in your /etc/fstab file is wrong. if you read though all comments on the ticket at https://answers.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2488 you will find what you need to make it correct.06:34
jontecfdoving: okay, thanks06:34
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ScarFreewillhow do i download something for example dsl via rsync? the only link they give you is rsync ftp.belnet.be::packages/damnsmalllinux/06:37
fdovingScarFreewill: use rsync -av --progress ftp.belnet.be::packages/damnsmalllinux/ path/to/download/to/06:38
ScarFreewill!rsync06:38
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ubotursync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.8-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 472 kB06:38
jontecfodving: the simple command at the bottom worked. :D So one of three problems have been resolved.... my sound still isn't here and I'm still running at 800Mhz when running things from Konsole06:39
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ScarFreewillfdoving: will it download that whole folder from the server because i only want a iso06:39
karmikazeok06:39
jontecfdoving: the simple command at the bottom worked. :D So one of three problems have been resolved.... my sound still isn't here and I'm still running at 800Mhz when running things from Konsole06:39
karmikazewell it just seems that i cant connect to any wifi that has encryption06:39
karmikazeopen networks are fine06:39
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fdovingScarFreewill: then you can use 'rsync ftp.belnet.be::packages/damnsmalllinux/' to get a list of files you can choose from.06:40
ScarFreewillfdoving: ok..06:40
B-Minushow come my openoffice looks ugly as crap06:40
B-Minusthe fonts look insane ugly06:40
B-Minusi can try whatever i want06:40
karmikazeheh06:40
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fdovingB-Minus: the menu fonts looks ugly?06:41
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B-Minusfdoving: yes06:42
FragragDamn, the audio notifications on Kopete suddenly stopped working, I checked the Notifications window and it's still checked, any other reason why it's not working?06:42
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B-Minusfdoving: but it seems the normal text fonts are ugly too, uglier than windows office anyhow06:42
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DrNickRivierai'm running dapper on just moved my installed system from one computer to another which is similar but less powerful06:43
DrNickRivieranow applications like firefox are using 50-80% cpu on a celeron 2.4ghz06:43
DrNickRivieraand xorg uses up to 30% on a regular basis06:44
DrNickRivieraanyone know what the problem might be?06:44
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jontecDrNIckRiviera: (I don't really know... I'm just curious) what was the processing speed (and model like pentium three or M, etc.) on the other computer? and how did you move the things?06:45
fdovingB-Minus: ok.. anyway a nice tip is to go to some openoffice app -> tools -> options -> openoffice.org -> fonts -> here you can replace the UI font with something else I think the default UI font is 'Andale Sans UI' so if you replace that with like 'Arial' or whatever you want, you might get better results.06:46
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DrNickRivierahad an amd64 3000+06:46
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B-Minusfdoving:  ok thx ill try that06:46
DrNickRivieraand just swapped the hard drive06:46
jontecDrNickRiviera: oh... you're using the wrong packages...06:46
fdovingB-Minus: also. the 'view' section also under openoffice.org in the options box, have some user interface settings you can have a look at.06:46
jontecyou're using amd64 packages on a 32-bit computer06:47
DrNickRivieraam thinking it might be an issue with the graphics card, as xorg seems to be using a lot of the power06:47
jontecI think?06:47
DrNickRivierano, am running the 32 bit version06:47
DrNickRivieracalling the processor amd64 might have been a bit misleading ;)06:47
jontecokay, so was it a 32-bit amd then?06:48
fdovingbbl.. dinner.06:48
jontecuh-oh... the guy with the answers is leaving... T_T06:48
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DrNickRivierawell it's capable of 64 bit, but also supports 3206:48
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jontecDrNickRiviera: so did you actually just put the hard drive in the new computer and run Kubuntu? And I think that kubuntu packages support amd64 totally. So if it was capable of 64bit... and it reailized it... it would have downloaded and installed amd64-specific packages. (Am I misunderstanding how your transferred?)06:50
jontecrealized*06:51
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lupine_85jontec: the architecture is determined at install-time06:51
jonteclupine_85: exactly06:51
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intelikey   Checking for passwordless user accounts... Warning!06:52
intelikeyFound passwordless user account. See logfile for more information06:52
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DrNickRivierai tried the 64bit packages when i first installed breezy and wasn't very impressed by them, so i decided to got with 32bit for now06:52
DrNickRivieraand as i have a 32bit install it wont start downloading any 64bit packages06:53
DrNickRivierai'm pretty sure that isn't the problem, as i've moved hard drives around like this before06:53
intelikeyi guess that this box is not worth the trubble... :)     or i wasn't a slick in tracing as i thought it was...06:53
jontecDrNickRiviera: okay, I see. :D (I see it as a really unstable way, but I'm a noob so it doesn't really matter :D )06:53
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DrNickRivierawell, got to go, if anyone comes up with an answer, feel free to send me a message06:55
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ScarFreewillDrNickRiviera: whats the orib?06:56
stamenhi06:56
ScarFreewillDrNickRiviera: prob06:56
stamenhow to see which run level use my system06:56
stamenI want to put one script there06:57
stamento be loaded06:57
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intelikeystamen runlevel06:57
ezu5tis alsaconf removed from kubuntu? What does one run instead?06:57
stamenand one question for those who use more then one acc. in their PC06:57
stamenI think I found a bug06:58
intelikeystamen and ?06:58
stamenI have two acc. on my PC, and when I log in the partitions are mounted06:58
stamenand you can see whats there06:58
stamenbut when I log out and log in to the other acc06:59
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stamenall things which are placed in /media are unmounted06:59
stamenand I have to remount them manualy06:59
stamen:(06:59
stamenwhy06:59
stamenis there any fix06:59
intelikeyand if you logout and back into the first account how are they ?07:00
stamenonly two07:00
intelikey?07:00
stamenif I go back to the first their is the same thing07:00
Dr_willisand what are these partitions anyway? NTFS/Fat32?/UsbDrives?07:00
stamenall is umountes07:01
stamenall is umounted07:01
stamentheir is 1 fat, the other are ext307:01
ScarFreewillstamen: did you use fstab for them07:01
stamenthree of them07:01
Dr_willisfor the ext3, id definiatly say make a fstab entry for them.07:01
stamenfor who, for the acc07:01
ScarFreewillstamen: to mount the media07:02
intelikeystamen then it has nothing at all to do with the number of accounts.   the fact that kde isn't able to restart and maintain "automounting" is the problem.07:02
stamenwill the old fstab file solve the problem07:02
Dr_willisext3 should be mounted  since the user/owndership/permissions are avilable on it.07:02
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stamenintelikey: so how to make it automount07:02
intelikeystamen yes fstab will fix it.07:02
stamenintelikey: the old07:03
stamenwithout UUID07:03
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intelikeyeither way. should07:03
stamenok07:03
stamenI will try07:03
stamenbut tomorrow07:03
stamen:)07:03
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stamenso runlevel N 2 is rc2.d ?07:04
intelikeyyes07:04
stamenok07:04
stamen10x to all for now :)07:04
stamenbye07:04
intelikeystamen you should   man update-rc.d07:04
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snowrichardhello07:04
stamento read it?07:04
intelikeyyes07:04
stamenok07:04
intelikeystamen normally the scripts are put in /etc/init.d/  and update-rc.d is used to activate them in different runlevels.07:05
stamenok, I will put it there07:06
ScarFreewilli used to use init X back in madrake 9.2 how would one switch runlevels in ubuntu?07:06
stamenthe script which I am going to make is for mount this partitions after log in07:06
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karmikaze!pastebin07:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:07
intelikeystamen in that case   try the fstab first.07:07
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intelikeyScarFreewill why would one switch runlevels ?07:07
stamenintelikey: ok07:07
intelikeyrunlevel 2-5 are all alike by default.07:07
ScarFreewillintelikey: i don't know to mess around :P07:07
FragragBah, this is weird, Kopete won't play any sounds, even previewing the soundbits using the Notifications window won't play anything07:08
intelikeyScarFreewill   sudo init #07:08
StalwartCpu(s):  1.8%us,  0.7%sy,  0.0%ni,  2.0%id,  0.0%wa, 95.5%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st07:08
intelikeyas far as i know upstart also uses the init command.07:08
Stalwartwhat does hi mean?07:08
ScarFreewillintelikey: ok just wondering...07:09
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igornossa07:11
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josehi, can help me? what is original repositories for kubuntu 6.10?07:12
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intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse07:12
DarkWizdom## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network07:12
DarkWizdomdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse07:12
DarkWizdomdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse07:12
DarkWizdomdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse07:12
DarkWizdomdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse07:12
DarkWizdomops :D07:12
igorthe original i don't now but i have one07:12
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igorthis is07:13
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joseok. thanks07:13
KoolAid2http://tinyurl.com/yfkm3707:14
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igori've looking for new themes for my kubuntu07:14
igorsomeone can help me?07:14
intelikeykdelook.org07:14
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igorthenks07:15
Jucatojose: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jucato07:15
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igorthanks*07:15
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josethank u jucato07:15
joseits so good07:15
igoralgum  brasileiro aqui?07:16
Jucatohm... which reminds me... I have to move that sources.list somewhere else...07:16
Jucato!pt07:16
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.07:16
igorhtanks07:16
igorthanks07:16
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igorsomeone have installed the squid on ubuntu07:18
igor?07:18
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intelikeyi hear ya knockin' but ya kaint come in....   :)07:18
nixternalStalwart: that line you posted in devel, where did that come from?07:18
intelikey!squid07:18
ubotusquid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 576 kB, installed size 1524 kB07:18
igorsomeone have configured the squid on ubuntu?07:19
nixternali configured squid about 10 years ago on slackware when i had dial-up..i totally forgot about that package07:19
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intelikeywell it don't look like i'm gonna catch a fly with vinegar  today.    :)07:21
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igor=D07:22
intelikeylater fellas.07:22
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fdovingigor: for squid help, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/squid.html07:23
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igorthanks07:24
fdovingigor: if you have further question please prepend my nick to the question.07:24
_4strOyop yop07:25
apokryphosHymnToLife: no trolling please.07:25
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igorwitch command i do to one people only?07:26
HymnToLifeapokryphos, not my fault if you have no sense of humor07:26
igorto give a message07:26
apokryphosHymnToLife: when you quit, it's a global message. This is a support channel.07:27
Jucatoigor: /msg <nick>07:27
Jucatoigor: but you need to register you nick first07:27
cccigor: /msg <user> <message> - however he meant just typing his name in front of the question here in the channel to hilight him.07:28
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PFAmy internet connection is being incredibly slow. i have a dual-boot system and another comp on this router, and both windows and the other comp are fine. all cords are plugged in correctly, and there is no lag on IRC after i have connected, but it takes upwards of ten minutes to connect. can anyone help me?07:28
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Fragrag!octet-stream07:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about octet-stream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:29
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fdovingPFA: is it slow on for example web surfing too?07:30
PFAfdoving: very much so07:30
fdovingPFA: make sure your nameservers are set correctly.07:31
PFAi don't know what that means :/07:31
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FragragIs Ipv6 enabled?07:31
PFA...maybe?07:31
PFAhow do i find out?07:31
Fragraglemme find out07:31
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Fragraghttp://en.opensuse.org/Disable_IPv6_for_Firefox07:32
Fragragtry that07:32
igorregister07:33
PFAit doth not load, good sir07:33
igorregister baboo07:33
igorhow cna i register a nick?07:33
PFAigor: /msg nickserv register baboo ? :)07:33
igorhow can i register a nick?07:34
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PFAigor: /msg nickserv help07:34
FragragWhat browser are you using PFA?07:35
PFAOpera07:35
FragragRight, sorry, I use Firefox so I gave you a Firefox specific link07:36
fdovingPFA: k -> system settings -> network settings -> Network connections -> domain name system -> Administrator mode.07:36
igorare07:36
igorare07:36
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igorar07:36
PFAis07:36
PFAis07:36
PFAis07:36
fdovingbehave please.07:36
Fragraghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8779807:37
PFAfdoving: ok07:37
FragragTry that07:37
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PFAok...07:38
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PFAi dont know why this would suddenly start now though07:39
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PFAive been using ubuntu for a year and this has never happened before07:39
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PFA... also, evidently that file does not exist on my computer07:39
Umbrielhi all, does anybody know how to configure the firewall using firestarter with 2 IPs on the same interface, eth0 and eth0:1? eth0:1 doesn't appear as interface at all07:40
FragragHm, really? Weird, didn't read your orignal message, sorry. Maybe you possibly went over some kind of bandwith limit imposed by your ISP?07:40
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PFAi doubt it... it's only on Ubuntu, not either of the windows systems i have, plus i think the only limit i have is a 40GB/ month download limit07:40
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igorI obtained to register my nick name07:41
igorhehe07:41
igorit's so nice07:41
igori'm going bye07:41
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FragragCan someone help me, I keep getting this annoying message of getting an error of 'can't find octet-stream'07:44
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fdovingFragrag: can you be more specific?07:45
gumpppy3has anyone had any problem connecting to yahoo mail with firefox?07:45
Fragraghttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=133908 this problem07:45
FragragThough I think I pinpointed the problem, happens with Kopete when I recieve a message, Kopete usually plays a sound, that sound is in .ogg format, I tried to play  an .ogg file, I get the same message. Where can I find the file associzations?07:47
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FragragI already deleted my octet-stream.desktop but I still get the error07:49
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Lam_how do you list the directory of cdrom0? it mounts correctly and i can see it in my file browser, but i can't seem to do anything within /media/cdrom0 with the terminal07:57
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trappistLam_: what happens when you try07:58
Lam_:/media/cdrom0$ ls -al07:58
Lam_total 807:58
Lam_drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-11-19 23:23 .07:58
Lam_drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-10-25 10:08 ..07:58
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__osh__!ipod07:59
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ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto07:59
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FragragOk, I think I fixed the problem..08:04
computeri can't use adept updater, every time i open it it says another adept program is running, close that one first, but i have none other that's open08:04
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FragragDid you use konsole beforehand?08:04
hex_st0rm!adept crash fix08:04
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'08:04
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computerthx hex_st0rm08:04
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hex_st0rmwhere can i get opera?08:05
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hex_st0rmcant sudo-apt get it08:05
fdovingopera.com08:06
hex_st0rmty08:06
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towyccFragrag i didn't use konsole before hand, after i restart the first thing i click is adept-updater, also it seems to be calling itself twice everytime i start it, that's prolly what's causing the conflict but i don't know how to solve it lol, i'll try hex_st0rm's method first08:06
hex_st0rmyeh do sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a08:07
towycccool thx hex_st0rm08:07
towyccafter that i can just click the adept updater icon right08:07
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hex_st0rmyup08:08
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hex_st0rmwhen i click a button to download anything...kate automatically opens it, how can i fix this?08:08
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towycco i think u can right click it08:09
towyccand then save link as08:09
hex_st0rmi tried that08:09
hex_st0rmbut for some reason it wont let me right click it08:09
towyccis there a site that i can try on08:09
hex_st0rmtry to download?08:09
towyccis it just in general08:09
towyccyeah08:09
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hex_st0rmits just been happening lately08:09
hex_st0rmhttp://www.opera.com/download/08:09
hex_st0rmlike that one08:09
hex_st0rmim trying to get opera and kate opens the program08:10
towycccool let me see if i have any luck with it =)08:10
hex_st0rmk08:10
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PFAi tried all that ipv6 stuff08:10
PFAit helped not at all08:10
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towycchex_st0rm i was able to save as "opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb" just by clicking download button08:11
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PFAactually somehow it is still enabled...08:11
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hex_st0rmit opens it with kate for me08:12
hex_st0rmidk why08:12
PFAthis is really frustrating :/08:12
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towynci was disconnected for a bit08:13
notechcheck the kde associations in kcontrol08:13
towynchex_st0rm could it be something in firefox preferences was changed08:13
hex_st0rmim running konq not firefox08:13
towynchex_st0rm when does it open with kate tho, after u've downloaded opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb, and tried clicking on it?08:13
hex_st0rmill see if firefox works though08:13
hex_st0rmwhen i click it, it opens kate08:14
towyncclick the download button, or click the downloaded opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb08:14
hex_st0rmi did08:14
notechthe .deb must be associated with kate then08:14
hex_st0rmyeh08:14
towyncso which did u click lol08:14
towyncthat brings up kate08:14
hex_st0rmyeh08:15
hex_st0rmfirefox worked08:15
towynck08:15
hex_st0rmbut whoa, it downloaded at 2000kb/s08:15
towynclol08:15
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hex_st0rmim gone08:16
hex_st0rmlater08:16
towynclates08:17
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jontecanyone here that can help me with my sound problem08:20
jontec?08:20
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Lynoure!anyone08:21
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:21
fdoving!sound08:21
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin08:21
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FragragDoes anybody have the fix for this problem? Does anybody08:24
Valmarkohow do I enable video streaming  -  Firefox ?08:24
Fragraghttp://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=8167 *08:24
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fxcohello, i have a problem with konversation. i disabled my menu bar and i dont know how to enable it now08:27
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ValmarkoI cant find mozilla-mplayer. Someone help me?08:27
dergringofxco: ctrl+m08:28
fxcoah, thx a lot08:28
dergringofxco: gerne geschehen ;)08:28
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fxcodanke :D08:29
ValmarkoWhat is the graphical text-editor used in kubuntu?08:29
Valmarko:(08:30
TheDebuggerkate?08:30
fxcoKate08:30
TheDebuggerkwrite?08:30
ValmarkoTANKS08:30
dergringono, this is a game xD08:31
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admin__hi all08:33
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juniemoonhey everyone08:34
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juniemoonI'm converting my mom to kubuntu08:34
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juniemoonquick question: does "easyubuntu" or "automatix" work in kubuntu?08:35
fdoving!automatix08:35
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe08:35
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fdovingjuniemoon: i wouldn't recommend using either. use the wiki guides they are usually safe.08:35
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juniemoonfdoving, thanks, I'll do everything myself08:36
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fdovingFragrag: in system settings -> notification you have a 'Player Settings' button. try to have a look at the settings it provides.08:37
fdovingjuniemoon: that's the recommended way.08:37
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[Amigo] Hi PPL! I have a ffmpeg convertor. How to convert *.vob from DVD to smartphone Nokia N72?08:38
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bonbonthejonhow can I make a qt program in kubuntu08:40
trappistbonbonthejon: use kdevelop08:42
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bonbonthejontrappist: I cant figure it out08:42
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trappistbonbonthejon: it's not simple, but there are lots of howtos08:43
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trappistanyone know, what's the git equivalent of 'svn up'?08:43
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apecathow would you people create and modify and manage a default user profile that are to be to copied to several new users? when i just copy the whole ~username including all .files and .directories, some kubuntu specific autostart things in kde (the aren't in ~/.kde/Autostart) break, as in, they ask for ask for su passwords for the user i originally copied from at kde startup.  here are what the processes asking for usernames look like: ...08:47
apecat... http://pastebin.ca/28900308:47
apecat*that is to be copied08:47
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trappistapecat: files in /etc/skel are copied to the home directories of new users08:47
apecator hmm, maybe soem way to expert to  "/etc/skel/"08:47
apecatyeah but how do modify /etc/skel/ in a sane way08:48
trappistI'm not sure what you're asking - what's sane?08:48
apecati mean, if i just copied the modified user profile there, i'd get the same asking for password trouble08:48
bonbonthejontrappist: do you know what the difference between kdevelop and kdevelop3 is08:49
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trappistbonbonthejon: if you mean packages, kdevelop is probably just a metapackage to grab kdevelop3 and deps08:49
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trappistapecat: asking for password, when?08:49
apecatat kde startup08:50
apecatthe pastebin entry identifies the processes that are doing so08:50
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trappistapecat: why are things like kmix being run as another user?08:51
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apecatso if i knew what to change where i'd easily avoid it by changing the name of the user to the new value in some weird text file somewhere under ~/.kde08:51
apecattrappist: well the profile is copied08:51
apecatfrom the user kmix is trying to be run as08:52
trappistapecat: it's probably in a saved session, if that's what you're looking for08:52
jagerhello08:52
apecatohh08:52
apecatthanks, will check that out08:52
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jageri'm running an eggdrop bot from the apt repositories08:52
jagercan i use that with megahal?08:53
jageror do i have to compile from source?08:53
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mankeletorhi tomaczec09:12
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notanothernamepl?09:13
mankeletorif i want to uninstall a linux distro, all that I have to do is format the partition that contains the distro right?09:15
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tomaczecmankeletor: well, the bootloader would still point to that partition. but yes.09:17
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mankeletork, so kubuntu will be kicked off from my computer lol09:18
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tomaczecmankeletor: remember to remove ot from the grub/lilo menu,,, dunno how this is done under windows/mac.09:19
tomaczecs/ot/it/09:19
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mankeletortomaczec: fdisk  -mbr in windows (i guess)09:20
mankeletorAnyway I dont care cos I use lilo :)09:21
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ohmbrhi, i can't install ethernet card realtek rtl8139d ...09:26
ohmbrwhere can i find a driver for it?09:26
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coreymon77ohmbr: what chipset?09:27
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ohmbrcoreymon77: sorry.. what is chipset?09:27
mizortaI am looking for a good manual on making debian packages for ubuntu.09:28
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coreymon77on the box for your network card09:28
coreymon77actually09:28
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coreymon77can you give me the manufacturer's website for you card ohmbr?09:29
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ohmbrcoreymon77: just a second... i'm loking for it...09:30
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mizortaany manual on making deb packages for ubuntu?09:33
ohmbrcoreymon77: http://www.realtek.com.tw/09:33
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hervedoes anyone have any idea on why when i try to login to X i just get sent back to the login window?09:34
coreymon77ohmbr: what card do you have?09:34
coreymon77model number?09:34
ohmbrrtl8139d09:35
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sergiolibbecause there is a problem with your session manager, try reinstalling.09:36
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hervehow do i reinstall it?09:36
jontecokay... sound is not working even more now.... kmix is not even reconizing the card nwo09:36
jontecnow*09:36
k3ksHi everyone09:36
k3ksi've got a problem09:37
ohmbrcoreymon77: i thisk the driver is in here http://152.104.125.41/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=6&PFid=6&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false09:37
ohmbrcoreymon77: but i do not know witch to download09:37
k3ksin a konsole i kannt do the sudo command, he says the password is incorrect09:37
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tomaczecmaybe someone enlighted could explain the relation of 'chipset-driver-module' to the rest. i guess this is a major prob for the newcomers.09:38
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k3ksbut if i log in with su and the passwort it works09:38
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sergiolibyou messed something up, then09:39
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k3ksalso gksudo says that my password is incorrect09:39
sergiolibyeah, try using visudo command in root09:39
sergiolibthere edit that file so you can be accessible to the sudo command09:40
tomaczecsergiolib: usually, there is no passwd for root in kubuntu. did you know?09:40
coreymon77im sorry ohmbr09:40
coreymon77i do not know09:40
sergiolibtomaczec: yeah, hi messed something up09:41
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sergiolibhe*09:41
tomaczecsergiolib: i mean -> if he messed things up, did he know the root passwd (if ever set?)?09:41
k3ksand what should i write in this file?09:41
sergiolibhe could set it with the passwd command09:42
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k3ksif set it with the programm vom the administration menue09:43
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tomaczecsergiolib: k3ks answered <- your job to finish :)09:44
sergiolibwait09:44
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tomaczecto all: why dont you address what you say? it's quite easier to tell apart who talks to whom... for now it all looks a bit messy to me.09:46
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ohmbrcoreymon77: tks...09:47
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yann__How to know the installed version of Kubuntu ? A "cat /etc/debian_version" gives only "testing/unstable"09:48
tomaczecyann__:  uname -a09:48
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tomaczecyann__:  forget! that's the kerbnel09:49
tomaczecyann__:  forget! that's the kernel09:49
yann__tomaczec: ;-)09:50
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sergiolibok09:50
sergiolibquite noob in IRC09:50
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sergioliblol ;-D09:50
fdovingyann__: 'lsb_release -cd'09:51
k3kssergiolib: sry09:51
k3kssergiolib: i'm not registred so i cant /query09:52
tomaczecfdoving: thx. did not know.09:52
sergiolibokok09:52
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yann__fdoving: thx !09:52
bobesponjahey all09:52
bobesponjaI'm trying to mount my samba partition from my laptop, I can browse though it but I can't write09:52
bobesponjaI did put writable=yes in the share09:53
yann__Juste found this too : 'cat /etc/lsb-release'09:53
k3kssergiolib: also i'm not very good at english, i'm not sure if i understand everything ^^09:54
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k3kssergiolib: ok bye09:57
mankeletorbobesponja: great nick :)09:57
dsheedyhello I am having issues get the nvidia glx drivers to work correctly.  I have rem'd out dir xorg.conf file, made sure the nvidia module is loaded,but when X starts I get nvidia splash screen then lockups09:58
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dsheedydri not dir09:58
bobesponjamankeletor: thx, any idea about my samba issue?09:58
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dsheedythe card is an agp geforce fx 570009:59
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mankeletorbobesponja: I never used samba10:00
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GostehDoes anyone know how I can increase my volume past what my system thinks is the maximum?10:01
dsheedyget powered speakers?10:02
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jontecneed help: I used the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting tutorial and now my card is not detected by kmix OR the system and sound STILL does not work10:03
eilker!ro10:03
ubotuDaca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro10:03
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tomaczec!lojban10:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lojban - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:06
tomaczecwww.lojban.org ;)10:08
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eilker!uid10:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:10
tomaczeceilker: well, i tested to see if the bot knows lojban (a lang like romanian is one) ... you tested what?10:11
jonteccan no one help me?10:11
eilkertomaczec: nope:) in fact, i was looking for ro, in fstab10:12
tomaczeceilker: in fstab it stands for 'read only'.10:13
mankeletorjontec: try with alsaconf10:13
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Whopperdoes anyone know how to set the screen size? i logged in this morning, and its display is bigger10:13
eilkertomaczec: learnt it:) what about uid gid ?10:13
eilkeruser id ?10:13
fdovinguser id, group id.10:14
jontecmankeletor: alsaconf?10:14
tomaczeceilker: user and group id.10:14
eilkerumask ?10:14
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mankeletorjontec: yes, the command line alsaconf should work10:14
nuxilhow would i do it to remove all 0 from a file extention.. like file.001 file.002 file.003 to be file.1 file.2 file.3 and so on10:15
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tomaczeceilker: under linux-like systems like (k)ubuntu every user and group got an id.10:15
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Daimadoshihey all10:15
fdovingeilker: umask is 'file mode creation mask'10:15
jontecmankeletor: it wasn't found when I typed it10:15
eilkerumask=007,uid=0,gid=46  why do i have those numbers ? are these spesific numbers ?10:15
tomaczeceilker: bits10:16
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eilkerbits ? sorry what do u mean ?10:16
thecrazylolhi guys :)10:16
DaimadoshiI have a question : Is it because my XP partition was NTFS that resizing caused it to be deleted ?10:16
thecrazylolany german here?10:16
eilker!de10:17
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:17
eilkerthere are:)10:17
mankeletorjontec: let me find it, im not still using kubuntu10:17
fdovingeilker: umask=007 says files should have permissions 770 (u=rwx g=rwx a=none) uid=0 means the owner should be root, gid=46 means whatever group 46 is should be the group of the files.10:17
jontecmankeletor: okay10:17
HymnToLifeDaimadoshi, nope, I resized NTFS partitions countless times without any problem10:17
tomaczeceilker: no german here! means no discussion in that lang.10:17
Daimadoshihum....poop to me then... I just lost all my NTFS partition... :(10:18
HymnToLifethat seems like a good thing to me :)10:18
mankeletorjontec: what of those packages have you installed? (alsa-utils, alsa-driver, alsa-lib, alsa-oss)10:18
Daimadoshii had university documents on that...that's why i'm sad10:18
HymnToLifethat always puzzles me10:19
Daimadoshiwhat does ?10:19
HymnToLifewhy the hell do people think a hard drive is a safe place too keep important stuff ?10:19
eilkerfdoving: thank you,  starting to understand, but i coulndt find any relation between 007 and 770 ?10:19
fdovingHymnToLife: they don't crash often enought.10:19
Daimadoshioh i have plenty of backups... it just that I was hoping no to have to use them10:19
eilkertomaczec: no problem friend:)10:20
HymnToLifefdoving, true, but sometimes they do10:20
jontecmankeletor: well in Adept... I see only alsa-utils10:20
HymnToLifeeilker, 770 is 777 - 007 methinks10:20
tomaczeceilker: rights like this -> 421421421 -> rwxrwxrwx10:21
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DaimadoshiHymnToLife: thanks for the info.10:21
Daimadoshiall: happy holidays !10:21
snowrichard770 is the one's complement of 00710:22
mankeletorjontec: you would get the other alsa packages10:22
fdovingeilker: it's a like 777 - umask = permissions. example: 777-007=770, and you substract one number at the time, not the total. if the umask was 111 it would be: 777-111=666, for the umask=123, it would be: 777-123=65410:22
fdovingeilker: '#umask' in konqueror10:22
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HymnToLife!umask10:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:23
jontecmankeletor: I can only download alsa-oss from adept10:23
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eilkernow got it, thank you10:24
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mankeletorjontec: what is the total packages that you can get with adept?10:24
mankeletor*total of packages10:25
eMaX_HELP10:25
tomaczeceilker: the umask is just like in my '421421421' example... :)10:25
jontecmankeletor: its not with apt-get10:25
eMaX_I was not at my laptop for a couple of hours and suddenly my disk shows 100% usage10:25
jonteci mean the alsa-lib package is not with apt-get... sorry10:25
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eilkeruid=0 means root, what about uid=1 user ?10:26
jontecmankeletor: 19939 packages10:26
tomaczeceilker: first user.10:26
junehow hard is it to get 3d acceleration with an integrated intel chip?10:26
eilkeri see,10:27
eilkerthanx to all10:27
SSJjune:In Kubuntu 6.06, it Just Works10:27
SSJjune:Or rather, it should ;)10:27
eilkerjune: i use it10:27
junehuh, well i haven't tested with glxgears or anything10:27
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junewhat's the option for glxgears to get the fps?10:28
SSJjune:glxgears -printfps10:28
eMaX_du -ks gives the number in? kb or mb or gb10:28
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hudsyhi, I cant install java runtime environement10:29
hudsy!10:29
juneSSJ: it's not working, nor did --printfps10:29
SSJjune:Alternatively, glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark10:29
junehudsy: you're using adept aren't you?10:29
hudsycan someone help me??10:29
hudsyadept??10:29
SSJjune:^^ Not a joke, believe it or not ;)10:29
tomaczeceMaX_: man du10:29
eMaX_I see10:29
eMaX_now I cannot believe.10:29
hudsyi dont know whats this10:29
junehudsy: the package manager?10:29
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hudsyyes10:30
eMaX_when a file is shown as 6566686274 date filename in ls -la, how much is that in words?10:30
hudsyhow can i installl??10:30
eilkerls -lah ?10:30
tomaczeceMaX_: what you gonna say?10:30
junehudsy: does it freeze when trying to install the sun java runtime?10:30
simone_ciao10:31
hudsyi cant install....10:31
hudsyI download the self extracting10:31
hudsybut i cant10:31
eMaX_what I am saying is that beagle filled up all my harddisk with error logs consuming 52 GB in just 5 hours10:31
hudsyI've read some readme10:31
hudsybut nothing10:31
eilkeremax: use ls -lh10:31
junehudsy: that's not how you do things in ubuntu, you go to the kicker menu,  then adept package manager10:31
juneto install things10:32
tomaczeceMaX_: me, personally, does not use BEagle.10:32
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hudsyand then??10:32
june!universe > hudsy10:32
eilker!lightscribe10:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lightscribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:32
jontecmankeletor: you still there?10:32
tomaczec!ubotu10:32
eMaX_I mean honestly10:32
jontec!universe | hudsy10:33
ubotuhudsy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:33
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eMaX_I am not exactly amused10:33
juneubotu should have given you directions for enabling universe and multiverse repositories, do it, then after you've done that, open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre10:33
eilkerfdoving: do i have a chance to have the bot locally ?10:33
eMaX_ok where is beagle autostarted10:33
mankeletorjontec: im still here10:33
eMaX_well beagle crashed when it tried to index my evolution email folder10:34
fdovingeilker: ubotu? you can browse bots.ubuntulinux.nl10:34
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jontecmankeletor: the packages aren't avaliable for apt-get or Adept10:34
eilkerfdoving: yes10:34
impacthi everybody10:34
juneSSJ: still not seeing the fps... unfortunately, but it seems smooth enough to assume it's not software10:34
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tomaczeceMaX_: ps -aef | grep beagle -> kill -910:35
hudsyand to install java from adept what must I instalL?10:35
SSJjune:That's odd - try:10:35
jontecmankeletor: only alsa-utils and alsa-oss.... but I'm not sure that's the problem... why did the instructions suddenly prevent kmix from seeing the card?10:35
mikejabba huh10:35
SSJjune:glxinfo | grep direct10:35
eMaX_well I want to disable it entirely10:35
impactDoes anybody have a DLINK 530T working with (k)ubuntu 6.10?10:35
junehudsy: enable the universe and multiverse repositories, ubotu should have told you how to10:35
coreymon77impact: chipset?10:35
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juneonce you've done that open up a console and type   sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre10:35
SSJjune:strings `which glxgears` | grep "^-"10:35
tomaczecmaybe someone enlighted could explain the relation of 'chipset-driver-module' to the rest. i guess this is a major prob for the newcomers.10:36
SSJjune:gives all arguments glxgears can take.10:36
mankeletorjontec: try to install the other package of alsa10:36
butcharthola10:36
butchartsaludos desde mazatlan sinaloa mexicooooo10:36
mankeletorbutchart: hola10:36
eMaX_oh yes and virtual memory usage just dropped below zero when I killed beagled10:36
juneSSj: heh says it can't find the strings command10:36
SSJjune:Weird!10:36
eilker!welcome10:37
ubotuWelcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.10:37
juneit's alright, i was just interested in installing beryl for fun on my mother's computer (this one) but i probably won't anyways since it's got 6.06 and i don't really wanna upgrade just for a new xorg10:37
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jontecmankeletor: the ones that I can... I have only alsa-utils (which was already installed) and alsa-oss10:37
butchartaqui hablan puro ingles?10:37
june!espanol10:37
ArrAKeeNiop10:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about espanol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:37
jontecmankeletor: as in they are10:37
june!spanish10:37
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:37
butchartmuchas gracias amigo10:38
butchartgracias10:38
butchartbyeeee10:38
butchart;)10:38
junenp10:38
tomaczec!es10:38
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:38
eilker!proc10:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about proc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:40
jontecI can actually understand what ubotu was saying :D obtendran is a verb from obtener and it's conjugated in the future tense... ayuda is help10:40
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tomaczec!el10:40
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes10:40
tomaczeccool :)10:40
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markoHelp please. I launch ktorrent in 6.10 (after recent distro upgrade) and ktorrent launches but opens no window. I want it to open a window so I can work with it. Ideas?10:40
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fdovingmarko: does it appear in the systray (lower right corner, by the clock)10:41
SSJmarko:Is there no systray icon?10:41
SSJdoh10:41
TheDebuggermarko: You could try to delete de config10:41
thecrazylolanyone german?10:41
CVirus!de10:41
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:41
tomaczecthecrazylol:  #kubuntu-de10:41
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markoTheDebugger: yes, all OK now. Thanks. I'm new to ktorrent, coming from Auz.10:42
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tomaczecmarko: aussie?10:43
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TheDebuggergood10:43
TheDebuggerAzureus?10:43
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ranceAnyone know how to configure sound in kubuntu when a bug in the alsa module is misidentifiying the capabilities of the sound card?10:43
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coreymon77guys10:43
eilker!alsa10:44
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin10:44
coreymon77you know how iwconfig is thecommand for wireless10:44
coreymon77whats the command for wired10:44
impactifconfig10:44
coreymon77okay10:44
coreymon77so is it the same thing10:45
coreymon77iwconfig essid [essid]  key [key] 10:45
tomaczeccoreymon77: it's all a file.10:45
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coreymon77i mean10:45
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coreymon77ifconfig [interface]  essid [essid]  key [key] 10:45
coreymon77that the command?10:45
ranceeiker: sorry but that link just isnt helpful my card is properly identified and the right module is loaded, but it is detected as having capabilities and features not present, (a known alsa bug for the via82xx module10:46
impactit more like: ifconfig adapter .... gateway etc.10:46
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matroblendHas anyone figured out how to launch pythonCard in Kubuntu10:46
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tomaczecmatroblend: more a python prob i guess.10:47
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matroblendk10:48
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chupa-chups#python10:49
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gan|y|medgood evening10:49
gan|y|medi need some help with digikam10:50
tomaczecchupa-chups: python users/coders should know their channels. not need to target.10:50
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tomaczecs/not/no/10:50
chupa-chupssorry wrong type10:51
gan|y|medin dapper i could connect my eos 350d just fine, automatic detection (ptp mode), everything worked fine. in edgy i cannot access the camera in ptp mode at all. auto detection gives normal mode. i can connect and see the pics, but i can't download them. libgphoto2 is installed10:51
gan|y|medany ideas?10:51
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ncetervalSo, after a thoroughly botched hoary->edgy upgrade has left my laptop in an unusable state, I have decided to do a fresh Edgy install.  There are a few stopping points that I would like some advice on, though: I have an encrypted /home partition that I'd like to keep and I will be doing the actual installation to the HDD using a different computer, as my laptop cannot boot from removable media.  What special perparations10:52
nceterval must I make?10:52
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drajeanyone know if kopete syncs the buddylist correctly (just screen names) with the AIM server?10:53
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gan|y|medwhy doesn't digikam work anymore???10:53
zorglu_q. anybody succeed to use /dev/random on dapper ? it is way too slow here. has it been fixed in edgy/feisty ?10:53
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SSJgan|y|med:Maybe try asking in #digikam ... ?10:56
gan|y|medthere is such a channel? thx10:56
ranceI only tried to use /dev/random once, and it ran out of entrophy but an apt-get update from another command line provided the balance, but other than that I didnt notice any slowness10:57
gan|y|medok, now digikam crashed10:57
tomaczecit works... :)10:57
zorglu_rance: well i code crypto and use it frequently... before i was using fedora 4 and it almost never run out of entropy, with dapper it is ALWAYS blocking10:58
tomaczecnetsplit... not me!10:58
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zorglu_rance: i dont use it for the whole day, and i cant even generate a single key10:58
zorglu_rance: as it is my compile box, it got plenty of entropy during the day :)10:59
zorglu_rance: hence me saying something is broken in the ubuntu version of it10:59
tomaczeczorglu_: sounds serious.11:00
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zorglu_sudo ln -fs /dev/urandom /dev/random  <- my current workaround11:00
tomaczeczorglu_: reported it to the ubuntu team?11:00
zorglu_i cant ask my user to do that11:00
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zorglu_tomaczec: well nobody answer me :)11:01
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tomaczeczorglu_: this #is _not_ the 'ubuntu team', so!11:01
rancezorglu_ that sounds wrong somehow, I agree11:01
gan|y|medi have a process (digikam) that i cannot kill with kill -9. what can i do???11:01
zorglu_tomaczec: ?11:02
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tomaczeczorglu_: i mean -> it is not very relevant what you say here. report it to the coders!11:02
zorglu_tomaczec: and i answered 'nobody answered me'11:02
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dsheedyhello I am having issues get the nvidia glx drivers to work correctly.  I have rem'd out dri xorg.conf file, made sure the nvidia module is loaded,but when X starts I get nvidia splash screen then lockups11:03
tomaczeczorglu_: tell it to 'ditit' or 'slashdot'.11:03
tomaczecs/ditit/digit/11:04
ValmarkoAnyone knows how to install video streaming - Firefox?11:04
tomaczeczorglu_: but... give the codes at least 73hours to react to your mail.11:05
tomaczecs/codes/coders/11:05
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dsheedyValmarko:I am not sure about kubuntu, but mplayer and mplayerplug-in will get you what you want, you may need to look into the codecs as some have legal issues.11:06
Valmarkook, tanks11:06
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fiendskull9i cant get KDE to use my USB headset11:10
fiendskull9the volume mixer is detecting it11:11
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gan|y|medit is a very sad day, i have to restart because a buggy programme... restart! i am sad11:13
mongihallo11:13
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TheDebuggerPauvre garcon :')11:16
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phobiacI'm trying to get screenkast but it appears that the site they had with packages on it is down, and I'm having issues with compiling from the source. Anyone happen to have the packages?11:19
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zorglu_ALL: i found out my issue with the /dev/random. i had a ssh in my makefile - aka i was draining /dev/random entropy during the whole day. aka my bad, nothing is wrong with dapper /dev/random11:22
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phobiacHawkwind, are you there?11:25
ZaggynlHi, does anyone know how to get k3b burning faster then 2.3x speed?11:25
ZaggynlI'm using a BenQ DW1650, with udma5 enabled11:25
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kevmanDoes anyone know  how to change the mapping of laptop playback keys?11:27
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CSonicGohey guys, when will "Swiftfox" be included in ubuntu? if.. at all?11:29
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familyhey. a while back, I accidentaly pressed like Control-Alt-+  and I liked the results(it made everything big and I could move around with the mouse)  I can't remember what exact combination it was though can someone tell me?11:30
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Nontitleyes, you can just do Ctrl+Alt++ or Ctrl+Alt+- and it changes the resolution11:33
CSonicGoOK, anyone know how to mount a floppy  in kubuntu?11:33
Nontitlemount /dev/fd011:34
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nuxilM$ ( Vista  ) == Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans and Adware  :P11:34
avalonCan someone please help me find out what /dev/event my USB device is connected to?11:34
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CSonicGoouch.11:35
Nontitlechances are it's /dev/sda111:36
nixternalanyone in here using Wine?11:36
Nontitlei use wine from time to time11:36
nixternali need to know where it is located in the KMenu, so I don't have to install it to find out11:36
avalonThis isn't a jump drive Nontitle, it's a touchscreen, probably considered by the system as a mouse11:36
Nontitleoh11:36
Nontitlewell, i have never used a touchscreen so i don't know11:37
nixternalim writing up some system documentation and I am at that part11:37
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NontitleUSB can pop up in pretty much any event11:37
avalonIs there a way to see them all so I can take a guess?11:37
Nontitlei don't think it's in the KMenu, i think you just directly run the EXE file11:37
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phobiacnixternal: There's a directory of installed programs in the Kmenu11:38
nixternalhmm, i thought before when i looked it, that it was in there11:38
Nontitleother than opening up /dev in a file manager, probably not11:38
nixternalphobiac: rock on, thanks11:38
phobiacnixternal: For me it's right under "utilities"11:38
phobiacIt has the default folder icon.11:38
nixternalahh ya, i remember that now11:38
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avalonHmm.. okay, I've got mouse, mouse0, and ts011:41
avalonalong with event0, 1, and 211:41
esaymhey everyone11:42
esaymis need a refresher for where the config file is located for the login screen11:42
esaymthe resolution is different on the log in screen vs desktop11:42
Nontitleis that possible?11:43
avalonWhat's that Nontitle?11:43
esaymwas that directed at me?11:43
Nontitleno, it was directed at avlon11:43
esaymoh11:43
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esaymwell dang :(11:44
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avalonIs having all those devices possible? I don't really know..11:44
Nontitlei mean yes it was directed at you11:44
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Nontitlesorry i need sleep lol11:44
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Nontitleesaym, i don't think you can do that under X, but you can use Ctrl+Alt++ and Ctrl+Alt+- to change the resolution11:45
esaymwhle at the log in screen?11:46
willy_Bonsoir11:47
avalonHmm.. one other question. I'm about to make a major change in my xorg. I've got a backup, but where can I see the error list if xorg has them?11:47
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esaymthis is the problem i am trying to trouble shoot: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=51193511:48
Nontitleif you fail, it should show the log, and then ask if you want a more detailed version11:48
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esaymdoes the log in screen come into play at all when shutdown is called?11:48
Nontitleesaym: it works at both the login screen and the desktop11:48
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avalonI've never been able to see the error file like that? Mine always just dumps me at tty1 and asks me to login.11:48
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esaymoh ok11:48
esaymdidnt know that11:48
phobiacAlright this is odd. I'm trying to to compile a package from source, and when I do ./configure everything checks out fine until I get to something involving Qt. I get this error: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!11:49
Nontitleyou have to install QT 3.2 or over. search for it in synaptic or adept11:50
Nontitlesorry, the development files for QT 3.211:50
Nontitleor over11:50
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esaymok well i am going to restart11:51
phobiacThat's the odd part, in adept when I attempt to install libqt4-dev I get a BREAK error.11:51
esaymok n/m11:51
esaymbbl11:51
phobiacIt conflicts with qt3-dev-tools11:52
Nontitleopen Konsole and type in sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev hopefully that might work11:53
phobiacHowever I can't remove that package, because adept appears to be dependent on it.11:53
Nontitlelol funny how that works out11:53
Nontitleyou should install synaptic11:53
lotusleafSynaptic for the win!11:53
phobiacEh, I guess I'll have to do that.11:55
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tobreHi all!11:56
hudsyji11:56
hudsyhi11:56
Nontitlehi11:56
tobreI wonder that can I update my Kubuntu (edgy) to Feisty Herd without problems?11:57
tobreFo example lousing data?11:57
tobreFor11:57
fdovingtobre: don't expect that process to be painless.11:58
phobiacIf you're worried about problems, updating to a in development OS isn't a good idea.11:58
phobiacan*11:58
fdovingthe current feisty kernel hardlocks my machine when loading the wireless driver module.11:58
tobreHmmm11:58
fdovingI'd stick with edgy. there are no dramatic changes to feisty anyway. yet.11:59
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tobreMy edgy is working quite good.11:59
tobreOK. :)11:59
tobreThanks for your suggestions. :)12:00
raquelhola buenas noches a todos12:00
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raquelespero que paseis felices fiestas12:00
fdoving!es | raquel12:01
uboturaquel: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:01
raquelthank you12:01
fdovingyou're welcome :)12:01
NontitleI still have dapper12:02
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Nontitlenotice how it's [D] apper, [E] dgy, then [F] eisty, [D] [E] [F] 12:03
phobiacNontitle: When edgy first came out I changed all my sources.list entries to say edgy instead of dapper, then updated everything.12:03
phobiacOnly afterwards did I learn how incredibly stupid that was. :D12:03
Nontitlelol12:03
phobiacLuckily nothing broke.12:03
Nontitlethe only time i did that wsa to install KDE412:03
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birgehi12:04
matthew_Nontitle, KDE 4 is out? I thought it was only available for developers...12:05
NontitleI'm going to wait until Feisty comes out before i upgrade because Edgy has alrady been out for a while now and if i go to edgy i will just habve to upgrade again.12:05
Nontitleit is only for developers12:05
Nontitlebut i still like to use it every onec in a while12:05
matthew_Nontitle, is it semi-complete (can I use it for my DE?)12:06
avalonWhat happened with my xorg? Here's the log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38421/12:06
Nontitleyep12:06
matthew_Nontitle, lots of bugs still?12:07
birgei need some help12:07
Nontitleavalon: so far it looks like it needs /dev/wacom but it doesn't exist12:08
Nontitlethats about it12:09
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birgei am a totally newbie, i have just installed kubuntu12:10
DFMCan someone please point me to the website that will help me determine what wifi adapter's will work with Kubuntu?12:10
avalonHmm... I don't need the /dev/wacom since it's for tablet pcs. Is that something put in by default, or did ubuntu detect my touchscreen as a tablet?12:10
birgehow can i add my dvd player?12:10
Nontitlematthew_: yes, but it's still stable and usable, but it looks just like KDE3 and isn't that much better, it's also recommended to still run stuff on KDE312:10
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Nontitleavalon: i was just thinking the same thing, that might be it, but if it is, i'm not sure what to do about it12:10
matthew_Nontitle, yeah...kinda what I thought...so...what do you know about plasma?12:10
Nontitlethe new desktop thingy?12:11
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avalonHmm.. well if it just put it there as default, I'll delete its references, but I'll work with it some more if it's actually an attempt at detection12:11
yamalavalon: ubuntu adds these to all xorg configurations, even when most people dont have that hardware12:12
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Nontitleyeah, there are also quite alot of other "projects" that are going to help KDE4 in the future12:12
avalonWell.. in that case goodbye wacom.. and let me see if it likes my touchscreen now :)12:12
yamalavalon: safe to remove, but be sure to get rid of every reference in that case or xorg won't start12:12
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phobiacAhhhh yes12:13
Nontitle. (**) stylus: always reports core events12:13
Nontitle770. (**) stylus device is /dev/wacom12:13
Nontitle771. (**) stylus is in absolute mode12:13
Nontitle772. (**) stylus: forcing TabletPC ISD V4 protocol12:13
phobiacAll I had to do was downgrade a package.12:13
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Nontitle777. (**) cursor: always reports core events12:14
Nontitle778. (**) cursor device is /dev/wacom12:14
Nontitle779. (**) cursor is in relative mode12:14
Nontitle780. (**) cursor: forcing TabletPC ISD V4 protocol12:14
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Nontitlethat's what i took from your xorg configuration12:14
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avalonSo.. it's getting confused and trying to load stuff for a tablet that I don't have12:14
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Nontitleyeah12:14

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