mervteckheyyy cali pwns!12:14
BluesKajno says aboot here in ontario12:14
cpk1BluesKaj: aww, but alot of eh's?12:14
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BluesKajbut it ain' t abowwwwwwwt either  ...aye ?12:15
codytI've heard aboot once, talking to a girl from Canada, but she didn't always pronounce it that way.12:15
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natshi again12:15
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cpk1hrmm i suppose i pronounce it abowt12:16
BluesKajthat's sort of the common thing amongst ppl who don't express themselves too well, something akin to your "like"12:16
phobiacI'm considering downloading apt-build because it seems useful, anyone know if there are any real benefits to it?12:16
jubuntuhi, how do i use vixie-cron's crontab non-interactively?12:16
dddude55sudo dmesg | grep acx12:16
dddude55just berings up another command line12:16
dddude55is that bad lol12:16
djwilcoxhi im having a bit of grief with wireless12:17
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ubotuapt-build: frontend to apt to build, optimize and install packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 188 kB12:17
djwilcoxseem to have a problem getting an ip address with dhcp12:17
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:17
djwilcoxyer been thru the wireless docs12:17
dddude55well i had no luck with acx10012:17
djwilcoxstill cant work it out12:17
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cpk1dddude55: you can just read dmesg yourself instead of using grep12:18
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djwilcoxi can scan for network with my wireless card but not connect and get an ip12:19
djwilcoxsomething about dhcp and sleeping12:19
dddude5517184969.096000]  pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 012:19
dddude55[17184969.096000]  pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.012:19
dddude55--- ^12:20
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makuseruim trying to remove a package that is broken and i cant remove it, a apr-get remove, a autoremove, none of it works, how can i remove this package12:20
dddude55if it sees it why wont it recognise it >.<12:20
dddude55i just cahnged it to the other pcbus slot and it now says detected in slot 112:20
dddude55so i know it sees it12:20
dddude55it just doesnt want to work for me12:20
Theorymakuseru: what error when you try to remove it?12:20
mervteckhey guys i got a konsole running and im in the directory of my ventrilo server but whats the command to tell it to run it12:22
djwilcoxhas anyone managed to get 6.10 working wirelessly with broadcom chips12:22
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djwilcoxim using a powerpc mac and cant connect to my open wireless network12:23
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lz1gjdcould any1 tell me how to access the filesystem on nokia n7012:24
ubotugnokii: Datasuite for the mobile phones (console & X). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.13-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 811 kB, installed size 2944 kB12:24
indygoso what is the program extension under linux?  Is it .exe like in windows, or something different?12:25
cpk1indygo: what?12:25
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indygodoes linux have file extensions?12:25
lz1gjdindygo: if a file is executable is defined by it attributes - x12:26
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cpk1sure add .whatever and you have an extension12:26
makuseruTheory: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3663/12:26
indygoahh, so that's completely different than in windows :)  no wonder I can't find any programs! lol12:26
cpk1linux treats everyfile the same unless you tell it otherwise12:27
Theorymakuseru: sudo dpkg -r beryl-plugins-extra may be what you want12:27
natscodyt we can't talk in private12:27
makuseruTheory: ill try12:28
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lz1gjdi wonder if any can tell me if it is possible to transfer files from my nokia file system to my computer using serial cable12:30
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lz1gjdplease, anyone ?12:34
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ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:36
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vbgunzwhy does Kubuntu ship with kghostview and kpdf?12:42
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juan_hola a todos12:43
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juan_alguien q haya podido instalar radeon 9250 en Edgy12:45
BluesKajwhat's the key on a laptop that's equivalent to right click on a pc , to open a dialog box menu ?12:48
dddude55windows xp and their permissions are stupid lol12:48
dddude55um that would be the right click of the laptop12:48
BluesKajor touchpad12:49
juan_problem with ati 9250 and kub edgy12:49
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phobiacBluesKaj: I've never seen a touchpad that can right click. Tapping it usually left clicks. There should be two extra buttons for right and left click though.12:52
Shak1juan: this is an english speaking channel, if you want support in your native language please try #kubuntu-es     : regarding your problem , the radeon 9250 has some issues with the dri. i cant help you with ati-support because i am used to nvidia but have a look at this page http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/12:52
phobiacHowever many laptop keyboards I've seen have a key (looks like a piece of paper with a cursor on it) that opens the right click menu...12:52
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phobiacAlthough mine doesn't seem to be working for me.12:53
phobiac!spanish | juan12:53
ubotujuan: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:53
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Shak1!klingonian |shak112:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about klingonian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:55
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dopeis there any type of monitoring software i can put on my computer to see if my roommate is using my computer?12:56
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dddude55well yes12:58
dddude55linux comes with vpn software, if you set it up to watch mode12:58
phobiacdope: Your computer is passworded isn't it?12:58
dddude55then you can see the screen12:58
dopei can't access my comp when i'm at work12:59
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dddude55but i dont know a way to hide it so a roomate would know if it was opoen12:59
dopeyes it does but i'm curious what they're doing12:59
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dddude55have you tried asking them?12:59
dopeit's more like i know they're using it, i'm curious what they're up to01:00
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phobiacdope: Why not just lock the computer so they can't get into it in the first place...01:00
dopeit's more like i know they're using it, i'm curious what they're up to01:00
phobiacYou could set up VNC.01:01
dopei'm at work while this is taking place01:02
phobiacI think it's better to confront them or just lock the computer when you walk away.01:02
phobiacDo they know your password or something? Why not change it if they do?01:02
dope[dope]  it's more like i know they're using it, i'm curious what they're up to01:02
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dopethey use the guest account01:02
dopei don't wanna be a douche and just change it on them01:03
phobiacThis is on a linux comp right?01:03
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dopealthough i do put pornographic wallpapers on the guest account01:04
dopethat still doesn't deter them01:04
phobiacIf they are using it and you don't want them to, just change it or confront them. It's better then possible hurt feelings if they find out you were spying on them.01:05
Shak1haha me neither01:05
dopei'd like to ween them off it01:05
dopemaybe i'll have beryl auto start01:05
phobiacOh, and if you want something to confront them slap goatse on the guest account as the wallpaper.01:05
dopei put lesbian porn on it01:06
dopemy roommate is a female01:06
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:06
phobiacOnce again, goatse just may solve your problem.01:06
phobiacHowever it might get you some odd looks...01:06
dopewe'll see how the L-porn goes01:09
Shak1dope: LKL Linux KeyLogger        might solve your problem. put it in startup and watch the logfiles. its antisocial but more convenient then goatse01:09
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ccherrettI have a 160 GB ide drive that was flaking out in one machine I had. I would like to try to see if it is usable. Anyone know what I could to to test the drive?01:10
dopeactually is there a way to block a site01:11
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phobiacdope: What's your router?01:11
phobiacIf you have one.01:11
phobiacPerfect. Give me a moment.01:12
dopeactually i gotta run01:12
phobiacIn your router settings01:12
phobiacUnder "access restrictions"01:12
phobiacYou can block certain websites.01:12
dopei just want the site to be blocked for the guest account on linux :)01:13
phobiacBy url or by keyword.01:13
phobiacAh, no idea how to do that.01:13
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phobiacYou could always block just before you leave then unblock when you get back.01:13
dopei'll figure it out when i get back01:13
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Shak1you can block the site on a specific time of the day , say when you know you are at work aso.01:14
MinatakuForgot the slash01:14
Shak1or you can look the whole internet from 800 h-1200 h for example01:14
phobiacShak1 is right, I didn't think of that.01:15
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endo602what command do i use to find the processes that are being useD?01:17
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phobiacendo602: Top in the CLI01:18
phobiacIf you want GUI go with ksysguard01:18
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morticiare there any settings i can change to make konq more stable while browsing the web01:23
phobiacHmm, I'm setting up apt-build. It asks for my architecture. I've got an AMD Turion 64 Mobile Technology ML-32. There's a bunch of options for Atholon, but no Turion. Any ide what I should choose?01:23
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phobiacidea* Typos01:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:26
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash01:26
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ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins01:30
dawncan I delete folders from /media?01:30
phobiacdawn: /media is usually where mounted drives go01:31
dawnI know I have one folder that is persistant01:31
dawnit was never properly umounted01:31
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dawnand when I plug any usb device in the cahce copy is shown01:32
beg1689i have a question, something i dont understand01:32
beg1689where is my sound coming from?01:32
morticigod wth01:32
beg1689no artsd, no esd01:32
beg1689somone told me a sound daemon is needed for sound01:33
morticiwhy is konq so SLOW at loading web pages?01:33
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beg1689because you touch yourself at night?01:33
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phobiacFrom my understanding /media is just where the mounted drives are mounted to. The folders in there aren't the drive actually being mounted, they are there for it to be mounted to.01:33
morticiare you spying on me?01:33
morticior are you jelous that you can't?01:33
dawnok phobiac01:33
beg1689little form column A, little form column B01:33
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beg1689dam i spelled from wrong twice01:34
phobiacdawn: If it's a drive that no longer needs to be mounted it *should* be safe to delete the folder.01:34
morticistupid typos01:34
dawnI know, thats what I have been trying to do01:34
dawnthe OS wont give me the option, I have yet to try the CL01:34
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phobiacYou might need root power to do it.01:34
beg1689so... what is actually required to have sound? because from my little knowledge of linux i dont see why it is working right now01:35
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beg1689it used to work only if i started esd or artsd, now it works without them, didnt change a thing01:35
phobiacIF you want to use konq do kdesu konqueror /thedirectory01:35
phobiacIF you want to use konq do kdesu konqueror /media01:35
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dddude55if i install firefox from adept is that all i need to do?01:35
phobiacThen just delete the folder01:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:35
morticiok konq officially sucks as a web browser01:35
phobiacKonq is konqueror01:35
dawnuse firefox!01:35
beg1689or theres always opera01:36
morticiswiftfox it is01:36
dawnuse IE01:36
beg1689i have IE just for those really picky sites that dont let me use firefox or opera01:36
dawnI have IE installed on this PC01:36
dddude55use no01:36
LjLthe only web browser that correctly rendered acid2? yeah, sure01:36
wieniuuse the Source Luke :)01:36
beg1689yeah, opera :)01:36
dawndell is really pushing vista01:37
beg1689and for most of those pesky IE only sites, it can pretend to be IE, but doesnt always work (for some reason it still sticks "Opera 9.10" at the end of the ID01:37
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dawnI have been trying to purchase PC's sans vista01:37
dawnand they wont let me01:37
beg1689build it01:37
morticiswiftfoxing it up then01:37
dawnoh I have netter Idea01:37
morticikonq can't even go to yahoo music without messing up01:37
dawnI will just reimage the drives01:37
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morticilet alone apples trailers web page01:37
phobiacdawn: Dell has PC's sans the OS01:37
dawnI know01:38
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beg1689dont buy a PC with an OS you wont use01:38
dawnbut the ppl want XP only01:38
beg1689it adds $100 to the price01:38
morticiwhat about windows vista01:38
dawnI prefer to get XP and refuse the EULA01:38
dawnits actually cheaper01:38
dawnthe open OS machines cost $100 more01:38
beg1689i have an awesome XP cd, my friend got it and it works great01:38
dawnI have a bunch of hacked images of XP01:39
beg1689no activation, and windows updates works and validation works and everything01:39
phobiacThey cost more? That's ridiculous01:39
morticibeg1689: its called a corporate edition of xp01:39
beg1689i dont think its hacked, i think its a special cd key thats actually doing it01:39
dawncheck out dell site01:39
beg1689yea thats it01:39
beg1689not that i use it01:39
morticilike the enterprise edition of vista that i have :P01:39
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beg1689i dont think ill ever go back01:40
dawnneitehr will I01:40
morticimy laptop is primary linux01:40
beg1689and after using e17 all this time :)01:40
dawnI have seen the light01:40
beg1689same here01:40
morticidesktop dual boots01:40
beg1689my laptop actually dual boots01:40
beg1689100gb linux, 20gb windows01:40
phobiacMy desktop dual boots. I've got Linux and XP.01:40
dawnI just swap ata-6 drives01:40
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phobiacI actually think XP is a halfway decent OS. Not Linux those.01:41
dawnXP isnt bad01:41
phobiac..It's not Linux though*01:41
rbs-titoHow can I kill my X server to install the NVidia driver01:41
beg1689and no e1701:41
dawnwin200 0/win2003 are not OS's01:41
phobiacI thought it was ctrl+alt+backspace01:41
dawnummm I meant01:41
phobiacNo wait that restarts it.01:41
beg1689that restarts it01:41
dawnnot BAD OS's01:41
beg1689he wants a terminal im assuming01:41
dddude55umm when i tell flash where firefox is installed it says to put in a valid dest path01:42
rbs-titoI tried ctrl + alt  + f2 but the nvidia script says X is open01:42
morticiwth freaking hell01:42
dddude55wtf is up with that01:42
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beg1689you have to kill x01:42
rbs-titoIn gnome I used to do /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm stop01:42
morticiwhy is the text in firefox so damn small, all the web pages have tiny text01:42
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:42
rbs-titoWhatis the command?01:42
beg1689i dont know.. i just used the repo drivers01:42
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beg1689in fedora it was init 301:43
phobiacmortici: Do ctrl + +01:43
rbs-titoAll the Ubuntu runlevels are the same01:43
dawnrl 5?01:43
beg1689when i did my drivers in fc6 i just "init 3" to kill then "init 5" to start it back up01:43
dawnfedora 6 looks like  decent OS as well01:43
beg1689in ubuntu i just used the repo01:43
beg1689it is01:44
rbs-titothe repo doesn't have the built in AIGLX though01:44
beg1689excellent 64 bit support too01:44
dawnI have a large box that needs a OS01:44
dawnI was thinking win200301:44
beg1689you mean for beryl? because i use the repo driver for beryl01:44
dawndrat the MB dont support 64-bit01:44
beg1689although since i got e17 i havent touched beryl01:45
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.01:45
beg1689they say pre-alpha but it works amazingly01:45
beg1689only bad thing i noticed was the lack of some configuration options, but that can still be changed by editing some files01:45
beg1689oh andi wanted to say, fc6 x86-64 has excellent 32 bit support01:46
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beg1689i installed a ton of software that was said to have problems on 64 bit, and they worked fine01:46
beg1689the only thing that didnt work was wine, so i stopped using 64 bit01:47
dawni will have to play with fedora01:47
beg1689cant leave my games01:47
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dawnwhat games have you been able to run under wine?01:47
beg1689warcraft III, half life 1 and 201:47
beg1689(and all mods, of course)01:47
dawnoh damn01:47
beg1689world of warcraft01:47
dawnI would love to try HL 1/2 on kubuntu01:47
beg1689works good01:47
dawnany steam application as well01:47
dawnI have to give it a whirl01:48
beg1689well i only tested the half life engines01:48
beg1689oh and roboblitz (unreal 3?)01:48
dawnwell HL 1/2 are fine01:48
beg1689but that doesnt work01:48
dawnhmmmm, i heard that doom3 is supported01:48
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beg1689basicall i just have wine for steam and warcraft01:48
beg1689doesnt doom 3 hav linux native support?01:48
beg1689same for quake 401:48
dawnI think so01:48
beg1689so dont need wine for that01:49
dawnI have yet to play with that arrangment01:49
beg1689and unreal tournament 2004 i have linux native01:49
beg1689neverwinter nights01:49
dawnwell im out cyas time for dinner01:49
beg1689neverball is fun, i have my wiimote setup just for that game01:49
beg1689dam IRC, i forgot what i was doing01:50
beg1689i opened a terminal window, opened irc, now i have a blank terminal and i forgot why01:50
morticiomg im angry01:51
beg1689oh and if you ever want a laptop, i reccomend cheaping out on the memory and the hard drive01:51
phobiacmortici: What's wrong?01:51
beg1689it was cheaper to get a 120g hard drive than it was to upgrade to the 80g01:51
beg1689and now i still have my old one in an enclosure01:51
morticithe menu text is bigger then normal01:51
morticiand the web pages have text that is set to 9pt01:51
morticino matter what settings i change in firefox01:52
morticiit does nothing01:52
morticiis there a settings file i can delete?01:52
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phobiacI've no idea what to do for the menu text but doing ctrl + + makes text bigger.01:52
beg1689one of my favorite things in e17 is the app launcher01:52
morticibut i never had to do that before01:52
phobiacIt should just save like that.01:52
beg1689if you guys havent tried it you should, its in the repos01:52
morticiit doesn't :/01:53
phobiacThat's odd.01:53
morticii know01:54
morticithis all happend after i rebooted a machine01:54
morticiand afaik i didn't do any system wide upgrade01:54
beg1689so... do you actually need a sound daemon to get sound?01:54
indygoHow can I change my status to superuser?01:55
beg1689from terminal?01:55
beg1689sudo <command>01:55
beg1689or sudo -i to switch01:55
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indygothanks :)01:56
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phobiacIn the terminal how do you install all the build dependencies for a package?02:03
LjLphobiac: sudo apt-get build-dep package02:04
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dddude55god dang it lol02:04
dddude55this damn card is giving me a headache02:04
dddude55its supposed to be auto detected02:04
dddude55and it wasnt in live cd or expert install...02:04
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dddude55my touchpad left clicked in live cd but now it onl right clicks02:05
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alex777I'm having some trouble with a sata hdd02:10
alex777I just installed it and my bios sees the hdd, but kubuntu doesn't02:10
alex777I have an intel D865GLC motherboard, a WD hdd which I used one of those PATA->SATA devices02:10
alex777connected to my sata0 port02:11
alex777and I can't even see it in fdisk02:11
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NightBirdhow do I redirect error output?02:13
Sannealex777: it is possible that the linux kernel has no drivers for your sata controller. I recommend finding out the controller you use and investigate the linux support for it.02:13
alex777hm, it should be on the intel website which controller it uses right ?02:14
Sannealex777: yeah, or in the documentation that came with your mb. But let us try something quick, sec.02:15
Sannealex777: do youhave any output from: lspci | grep -i sata02:15
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alex777actually yes02:16
alex77700:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller (rev 02)02:16
Sannealex777: so something got recognized. Hmmm.02:16
alex777it's not showing up in fdisk -l02:16
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alex777as you figured I'm not an expert so I don't know where to go from here02:17
Sannealex777: let's find out if a driver got loaded: lsmod | grep -i sata02:17
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Sannealex777: try to go through all loaded modules and see if you find anything that looks like a driver for your sata controller (any key to scroll the list): lsmod | more02:19
Bxnpguys i am looking for a way to do invert selections02:19
Bxnpin kmail02:19
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl02:19
alex777Sanne nothing that would like like any sataa module02:20
alex777libata, ide_disk etc02:21
Sannealex777: ok, so the next step would be to search the net, ubuntuforums, phoronix.com (linux hardware site) to find out if there's a kernel module for your comtroller, and what it's name is, and load it manually. Or, find out that there's none (and weep...)02:22
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alex777Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) is my sata controller right ?02:22
Sannealex777: yes, I would try to search for that or fro substrings of that, and linux, ubuntu, driver, that sort of stuff.02:23
Sannealex777: but also look in your mb manual and on the intel website.02:24
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:27
MinatakuThat's something better self-compiled anyway02:27
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ubotuxmame-x: X binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.106-1 (edgy), package size 10241 kB, installed size 37724 kB02:32
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xenophile7x7ok, noob question. i just installed firefox on kubuntu. how can i create a shortcut in the K-Menu?02:34
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MinatakuLjL: XMAME is pretty much dead in the water02:35
MinatakuYou should shift to SDLMAME02:36
MinatakuWant the info on it? Or point me to where I would send such?02:36
Sannexenophile7x7: you can right click anywhere on the opened menu and choose "edit menu", there you can create an entry where you want to.02:37
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phobiacOkay uh, when I try to login my screen turns black, the cursor shows up, then I get bumped back to the login screen.02:37
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phobiacHelp. Please. :(02:38
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MinatakuCheck /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:38
dawnhow does one find out which kde they are using?02:38
phobiacIt opens, what do I do with it?02:39
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ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE02:39
Sannedawn: in any kde application, go to  help/about kde.02:39
dawnok I have 3.5.502:40
Minatakuphobiac: Read it02:40
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MinatakuLook around the end02:40
phobiacWhat am I looking for?02:40
MinatakuWhatever's making X crap out should be around there02:40
Minatakuphobiac: An error, look for X11's complaining, if it looks scary and confusing that's probably it02:41
jbruckmanwho is familiar with the various torrent clients?02:41
MinatakuIf you can't tell, pastebin the last so many lines and I'll take a look for you02:41
phobiacThere's a lot of errors at the end of this.02:41
Minatakujbruckman: I only have my recommendation of BitTornado02:41
phobiacWait, let me type one into here.02:42
phobiac(EE) xf6Openserial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom02:42
phobiacNo such file or directory02:42
jbruckmanMinataku: the reason i ask is that I've gotten one to work, and another one won't using what appear to be the same settings. I'm behind a school network, so encyrption works on Ktorrent(which i don't like) and not on a wine'd utorrent(which i like), and i can't figure out how to encrypt with rtorrent(command line torrent client).02:42
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jbruckmani despise the way ktorrent handles everything02:43
Minatakuphobiac: Hm... what the crap is it with that /dev/wacom02:43
Sannephobiac: the wacom entries don't matter, they are for a tablet device that's not present, I got those errors too.02:43
jbruckmanand would like other clients to work...02:43
MinatakuSanne: It's not making X puke and die?02:43
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SanneMinataku: no, it shouldn't. I guess it's put in by default so people can use it out of the box if present. I would look for video card errors.02:44
phobiacOkay. Right at the end it says "Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF, removing from list02:44
Minatakuphobiac: That's probably not it either02:44
phobiacThen it says that two more times, only the directory ends with OTF and ICD02:45
Jucatowelcome back Minataku02:45
MinatakuWow, Kubuntu out of the box has some stupid X11 errors, doesn't it?02:45
MinatakuJucato: Thanks02:45
Sannephobiac: best would be you paste the whole thing to paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:45
JucatoMinataku: what stupid errors?02:45
phobiacI can't paste into pastebin :(02:45
manchickenJucato: Whuddup my fellow kubuntuer?02:45
MinatakuYou'll notice I said "what the crap" rather than any other more vulgar words02:45
Jucatomanchicken: hellow :)02:45
Jucatomanchicken: got my cloak already :)02:45
MinatakuJucato: Well, it seems that default installations have X11 looking for various things that don't exist by default02:46
phobiacI can't log in, I'm full CLI right now.02:46
JucatoMinataku: ah yes, the wacom stuff.02:46
MinatakuWhich puts a load of bogus errors into /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:46
phobiacCould it be the "Synaptics DeviceOff called" at the end?02:46
MinatakuJucato: Also the missing font path elements02:46
phobiacSynaptic is my mousepad.02:46
JucatoMinataku: not sure if that's just a Kubuntu thing or an Xorg 7.x thing. anyway that was put in there for compatibility with pointing devices02:46
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MinatakuTTF OTF and ICD seem to be looked for but not installed by default02:47
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MinatakuJucato: Gentoo and Debian had issues with incomplete X11R7 dependencies too02:47
MinatakuIt was a pretty radical change, after all02:47
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Sannephobiac: can you open /etc/X11/xorg.conf what video driver is in there in section "Device"?02:48
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phobiacI already know, fglrx.02:48
ubuntuje tu nekdo kdo umi cesky?02:49
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Sannephobiac: and did it work before, or might this be a problem?02:49
phobiacIt was working fine before. The sections I saw in the log that mentioned fglrx didn't have any erros.02:49
Sannephobiac: ok, then it's not that. Back to error hunting in the log then ;)02:50
phobiacHow do I reconfigure X? I've done it before and it's solved a problem I had in the past.02:52
Sannephobiac: i believe it's: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:52
phobiacThank you02:53
ubuntuhi i need help: how i can set in command line: gateway and dns?02:53
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the_hammerhas anyone here done upgrade to their kernals02:54
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phobiacHow do I stop X?02:54
the_hammertrying to install this kernal here 2.6.20-rc6-mm302:55
Sannephobiac: you can kill it with ctrl-alt-backspace02:55
the_hammeranyone here ever done that kind of installing to kubuntu?02:55
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phobiacThat restarts it.02:56
phobiacI want to kill it so that I can reconfigure, I don't think the changes saved.02:56
ubuntups -A + kill kdm02:56
beg1689what do you need the new kernel for?02:56
phobiacubuntu: That will kill x?02:56
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the_hammerjust to try it02:57
ubuntuphobiac: ps -A and find number of kdm and kill "kdm number"02:57
the_hammerlearn new things :)02:57
Sannephobiac: or (i think): sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop02:58
the_hammeri have a kernel walk through on a web page but im stuck at part of it02:58
ubuntuje tu nekdo kdo mluvi cesky prosim?02:58
manchickenYour cloak?02:59
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the_hammerso i take it no one here can help me with installing a more updated kernel?02:59
the_hammerkubuntu 610?03:00
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ubuntuPS: in new kubuntu 6.10 is possible show cursor? i have now KDE 3.5(run from live cd)?03:00
Sannethe_hammer: hmmm, you mean from the repositories?03:00
the_hammernope i d/l one from the net03:00
the_hammer2.6.20-rc6-mm3 <--this 103:00
Sannethe_hammer: if you want to compile yourself, I wouldn't know, never done it myself, sorry.03:01
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xenophile7x7Sanne: I just got your reply from earlier, thank you03:01
the_hammeris it possible to get a newer kernel from the synaptic then?03:02
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Sannexenophile7x7: I forgot what I said, but you're welcome :)03:02
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the_hammernever thought of even trying till ya asked me about the repositories03:02
Sannethe_hammer: yes?03:03
xenophile7x7shortcut for firefox.03:03
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the_hammersee my qustion?03:03
Sannexenophile7x7: ah! Did it work?03:03
the_hammeris it possible to get a newer kernel from the synaptic then?03:03
xenophile7x7kinda blond of me, i should have thought to try it, but it worked fine03:03
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phobiacthis is ridiculous, what is wrong with my computer03:04
yamathanOh dear.  :s03:04
phobiacreconfiguring X did nothing03:04
Sannethe_hammer: ah, sorry... I doubt you can get a new version, but they do updates from time to time, bug fixes and stuff.03:04
yamathanWhy is xorg spazzing about FreeX86-DRI or whatnot?03:04
phobiacyamathan: your video card is ATI?03:04
cpk1phobiac: whats your problem?03:04
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Sannephobiac: I did a quick search and there were people with a suddenly not starting X who resolved it by (gasp) rebooting... tried that?03:05
phobiaccpk1: i try to log in, the monitor goes black, the mouse shows up, then I get kicked back to the login.03:05
phobiacSanne: rebooting seems to be what *caused* the problem. everything worked fine until i rebooted. but yes, ive rebooted three times now.03:06
cpk1so then X does work03:06
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Sannexenophile7x7: glad to heat that (and don't be too hard on yourself for not trying it out, there's so much to learn in Linux)03:06
phobiaccpk1: yeah, i dont know what it is though03:06
jbruckmanphobiac: actually, rebooting probably didn't cause your problem. usually with linux you break something that you've already loaded, reboot, and when it goes to get loaded on the fresh boot, you broke it last time...03:06
jbruckmanphobiac: just an fyi.03:07
phobiacah, okay. thanks03:07
jbruckmanphobiac: so what were you doing before you rebooted?03:07
firecrotchAnyone know of a decent dock (OSX style) that will work in Edgy? All of the ones I download don't work right03:07
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xenophile7x7sanne: lol, yeah, ive found linux to be extremely easy, although i need some resources on networking.  lol, hardest part for me is breaking the microsoft habits03:07
Sannexenophile7x7: yeah, that can be hard, those habits. Took me 3 months back then.03:08
phobiacattempting to build firefox from source. i ended up getting an error while it was making and didnt see what the issue was right away so i just gave up. it wasnt that important to me.03:08
jbruckmanphobiac: was there anything else you were doing?03:08
jbruckmanphobiac: like the day before, or anything?03:08
phobiaclistening to music03:09
phobiacnothing that could have broken it. unless updating beryl did.03:09
jbruckmanphobiac: basically, i'm just trying to see what you did since the last working reboot.03:09
jbruckmanphobiac: omg03:09
jbruckmanphobiac: you're using beryl?03:09
phobiacno, not often.03:09
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phobiaci set it up just to see if i even could. i use it on occasion.03:09
jbruckmanphobiac: either way, you've probably also got opengl set up too03:10
Sannexenophile7x7: Generally I highly recommend the kubuntu starter guide (k menu/help) and the ubuntu wiki (in case you didn't see those). Those helped me lots when I needed to know how to do stuff.03:10
phobiacyes, opengl is set up.03:10
jbruckmanphobiac: k03:10
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jbruckmanphobiac: when i tried using beryl, it worked fine, and then one day, i tried changing something, and boom. opengl broke my x configuration, and nothing would work. I had to completely undo the installation in order to fix it.03:11
jbruckmanphobiac: of course, this was NOT fun... you could try reinstalling x from scratch after purgin beryl and opengl03:11
phobiacHmm wait03:11
jbruckmanphobiac: but this sort of thing is risky...03:11
cpk1its sounds like X is working though03:12
phobiacIf I got to another session and startx, I get this03:12
phobiacFatal server error:03:12
phobiacServer is already active for display 0:03:12
jbruckmanyeah, xserver is broken.03:12
phobiacMinus the :03:12
jbruckmanwhen you're at the login03:13
jbruckmandid you set it up so you could still boot into X without opengl?03:13
phobiacThen it says that if the server isn't active remove /tmp/.X0-lock03:13
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cpk1phobiac: it is active though if you dont stop kdm03:13
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phobiacjbruckman: I set it up so Xgl (Is that opengl?) starts seperatly. I have a whole different session set up for that.03:14
jbruckmanyeah, xgl is what i've been meaning. it's just opengl for X.03:14
jbruckmanwhich session are you trying to log into when your original probelm is happening?03:14
phobiacAll of them. It happens on them all.03:15
phobiacFailsafe, KDE, Xgl (The one with Xgl running)03:15
jbruckmanyour xserver is broken then. can you revert your xorg.conf file to a previous state?03:15
phobiacEven blackbox.03:15
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CandamirHi! I'm updating from breezy to dapper using the command-line version. I already edited the sources file, but the last step works by using sudo and didn't work out with my computer... the line is 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' which is the kde version for this line? thx03:15
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phobiacI've already reconfigured my xorg.conf a few times now to try to fix the problem. At least I think that's what sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does.03:16
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the_hammerhey why is when i wanna start a new session and i try to log on as root and my password it rejests me and not let me log into root like that?03:16
yamathanOh, might I ask why XFree86-DRI is screwing with my sessions and/or crashing them?03:16
jbruckmanphobiac: did you make a back-up of the file when you installed beryl?03:17
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phobiacCandamir: Just do the lines seperatly. sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:17
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the_hammerhey why is when i wanna start a new session and i try to log on as root and my password it rejests me and not let me log into root like that?03:17
jbruckmanthe_hammer: you can't log into root on ubuntu.03:17
phobiacjbruckman: No. This was a long time ago that I installed beryl.03:17
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Sannethe_hammer: here's info on that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo03:17
Candamirphobiac: and will it work with kubuntu?03:17
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jbruckmanphobiac: too bad. that probably could have fixed it...03:17
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phobiacCandamir: Yes.03:17
ceritusis there anyway to get kaffeine to play *.mov files?03:18
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ceritusand *.mp4?03:18
phobiacjbruckman: I don't know. The problem happened just now, and I installed beryl over 2-3 months ago.03:18
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jbruckmanphobiac: well, you could try doing a mass overhaul of your xserver from the commandline... basically remove xgl, beryl, and all beryl components, stop anything using xserver, and then remove that too, and reinstall it.. then dpkg configure it...03:18
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XenThraLHi, how do I make shortcuts in kubuntu, specifically for folders?03:18
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phobiacBesides, reconfiguring xorg back to previous settings (the only thing changed was the ATI driver) did not help.03:19
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jbruckmanphobiac: but that's going to basically make your life very very difficult.03:19
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ceritusis there anyway to get kaffeine to play *.mov and *.mp4 files?03:19
phobiacceritus: You probably don't have the right codecs install.03:19
jbruckmanceritus: have you checked kaffeine's page?03:19
Candamirphobiac: Thanks for the advice, but still, the same happens => nothing. Do you know what this could be about?03:19
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phobiacCandamir: Are you connected to the internet when running them?03:20
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ceritusyeah, it does seem that i have all the codecs needed but still nada.03:20
firecrotchXenThraL: Right click where you want to add it, then choose "Create new -> Link to location"03:20
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XenThraLoh so it is link to location03:20
jbruckmanceritus: sorry, cant help ya buddy.03:20
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ceritusthanks anyway03:21
vbgunzvlc 0.8.6 doesn't have a qt interface?03:21
phobiacWhat does "Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key" mean?03:21
Candamirphobiac: yeah, lol. Nothing happens at all, and it doesn't seem the cpu is actually working... :-(03:21
jbruckmanphobiac: no idea..03:21
jbruckmanphobiac: anyway, i've gotta run. good luck man!03:21
XenThraLuh it gives me a <foldername>.desktop file03:21
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XenThraLI want a shortcut like the examples folder that comes by default in the home directory03:22
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phobiacCandamir: I don't know how to help you. Are you typing in the password when it prompts for one?03:23
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firecrotchXenThraL: That is the shortcut03:23
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XenThraLbut it doesnt appear like a folder03:23
firecrotchXenThraL: right click and it will let you change the icon for it03:24
XenThraL(and hence doesnt show up on the left side, on the 'home folder' tab)03:24
Candamirphobiac: it doesn't even ask me for the password. I just type alt+f2 and enter the command, the command window disappears and that's the end. Could I use kdesu and a different command instead of sudo03:24
XenThraLeven if I do that, that won't change the behavior03:24
phobiacCandamir: Open up a konsole and do it.03:25
firecrotchXenThraL:  Weird... whenever I use "Link to location" it works just fine03:25
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Candamirphobiac: It's working now. Thank you very much!03:27
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lwellshii all03:29
lwellsrunning parallels in OS X very nice03:29
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jason10hi there03:30
lwellscan have kubuntu withong a new machine03:30
kubuntuI-m using Kubuntu 6.06, I-m trying to upgrade to edgy03:30
kubuntuvia vmware03:30
kubuntuis it possible03:30
kubuntuIt tells me E could not find03:31
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Jucatokubuntu: Kubuntu is running inside vmware?03:31
NightBirdsweet... I just managed to get beryl up and working on kubuntu03:31
Jucatokubuntu: you need to have 1) and internet connection and 2) the proper repositories03:31
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kubuntuI have all03:32
sweqhi, why wouldn't my laptop boot on kubuntu if I'm on the battery?03:32
Jucatokubuntu: first setup your internet connection *in VMWare*03:32
sweqit hangs at the fsck thing03:32
Jucatothen follow this guide03:32
Jucato!upgrade | kubuntu03:32
ubotukubuntu: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)03:32
kubuntuudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal03:33
kubuntuthis gives me error03:33
kubuntuI-ve download all03:33
Jucatowhat's the error?03:33
kubuntuah...ok the error was E>could not find kubuntu03:34
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kubuntubut now it seems work03:34
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kubuntuI-ve restarted kubuntu03:35
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kubuntuand wrote sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal03:35
kubuntunow has told me03:35
Candamirdoes dapper drake for kubuntu have a feature that updrages the distro automatically? (like the update manager in ubuntu)03:36
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kubuntukubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.03:36
kubuntupython-qt3 is already the newest version.03:36
kubuntuso it was a Vmware problem03:36
JucatoCandamir: Adept Updater, but it kinda doesn't work well for upgrading to edgy03:36
Candamirlol, well i'll have to figure it out03:37
vn-hi, why wouldn't my laptop boot on kubuntu if I'm on the battery?03:37
kubuntubecause I need to restart via vmware before wrote that last command03:37
Jucato!upgrade | Candamir03:37
ubotuCandamir: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)03:37
kubuntuhow to install italian language03:38
Jucato!it | kubuntu03:38
ubotukubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:38
CandamirJucato: thanks03:38
Jucatomight want to ask the guys over there03:38
Candamirubotu: thanks03:38
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)03:38
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kubuntuI don-t remind what app I must lunch03:39
kubuntuto install italian language03:39
Jucatokubuntu: ask the guys in the -it channels. they would probably know03:40
Bxnphow can i register a channel03:41
JucatoBxnp: http://www.freenode.org03:41
kkerwinHi. Having a small difficulty. I used dvd::rip to rip a DVD into an mpeg, but the audio track was separated into a different file. Is there anyway that I can combine the two into one file?03:41
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gabrieldainBxnp, /msg chanserv help03:42
vn-how can I know what video driver is actually loaded?03:43
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phobiacI've got a huge issue with X03:47
vn-how huge?03:47
phobiacIt won't start. I log in and then I'm forced back out.03:47
phobiacHuge enough that reconfiguring xorg and the last hour of attmepted help from people in this chatroom haven't fixed it.03:48
phobiacSo, is there anyway to completely rebuild xorg?03:48
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elyon225How would I go about executing some script when a user "Ends Current Session" that would end the current session AND start a new one at the login screen?03:49
DaSkreechYou can purge it and reinstall if you like03:49
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phobiacHow would I go about doing that?03:49
phobiacI mean, what's the package/packages name/s?03:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:52
phobiacDaSkreech: How would I do that?03:52
DaSkreechsudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg03:53
phobiacThank you03:53
DaSkreechphobiac: sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg --purge && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg03:53
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phobiacI still get the error03:56
phobiac"Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0. If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again."03:57
DaSkreechWhat error?03:58
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phobiacThen it says, "Xli: connection to ":0.0" refused by server. Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key. giving up. xinit: unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error."03:58
DaSkreechWhat did you do>03:59
phobiacDaSkreech: The "Fatal server error"03:59
phobiacAfter just removing and reinstalling it.03:59
DaSkreechNo I mean when it all started04:00
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cpk1he has beryl04:00
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phobiacI had been attmepting to build firefox from source with apt-build.04:00
phobiacIt errored out, I gave up because it wasn't that important to me, and I restarted.04:00
cpk1trust me apt-build did not cause this04:01
phobiacNow when I log in I get knocked back to the login screen.04:01
phobiacI doubt it did too.04:01
phobiacI also updated, but did not start, beryl.04:02
phobiacI'm starting to think that caused this. :(04:02
DaSkreechphobiac: sounds like your beryl script or more likely KDE broke04:02
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DaSkreechI think with beryl broken KDE should start04:02
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DaSkreech You couldn't do anything04:02
hammer2hey where do i find grub i need to edit the heck out os it04:02
phobiacThe same things happen on every session I try to log into. Blackox, KDE, XGL(Kde with Xgl running, for beryl), even Failsafe.04:03
hammer2someone tell me?04:03
hammer2i dunno where grub is but i need to edit it04:03
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:03
phobiacSee if that helps.04:04
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phobiacDaSkreech: Any ideas?04:04
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phobiacI purged beryl just to be sure, still nothing.04:04
DaSkreechhammer2: read the link04:05
DaSkreechphobiac: can you run X?04:05
phobiacDaSkreech? You mean do startx?04:05
hammer2says i need live cd04:05
hammer2this is why i want grub04:05
hammer2Setting up linux-kbuild-2.6.20 (2.6.20~rc6-1~experimental.1~snapshot.8221) ..04:05
DaSkreechphobiac: No I mean X04:05
hammer2i rebooted and it didnt change04:06
phobiacNow I've got a black and white wallpaper and an X mouse.04:12
phobiacAnd the screen flickers.04:12
DaSkreechhammer2: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst04:12
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DaSkreechphobiac: So X works04:12
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phobiacDaSkreech: How do I make it stop doing that though?04:12
DaSkreechI fixed this type of thing before but it really depends on how much paitence you have04:12
DaSkreechphobiac: Flickering?04:12
phobiacNo, X. I want to go back to the CLI04:12
phobiacOh wait nvm04:12
phobiacAnd yeah the monitor was flickering04:12
phobiacOh, wait04:12
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phobiacSomething has changed, doing startx gives me a different error.04:12
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phobiacHmm, well I've restarted. I'm going to see what happens.04:12
phobiacSame thing04:12
phobiacDoes X have an error log I could look through?04:12
phobiacAww crap, nvm.04:12
phobiacI'm getting the same arror as before.04:12
phobiacBack to square 1.04:12
elyon225How would I go about executing some script when a user "Ends Current Session" that would end the current session AND start a new one at the login screen?04:13
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phobiacAha, removing that Lock thing in /tmp makes it change.04:13
hammer2ok heres my pastebin04:14
vn-where can I set commands to run on Xorg startup?04:14
Jucatoelyon225: I think making a ~/.kde/shutdown folder and putting the script in there not really sure though04:14
DaSkreechvn /etc/rc[0-6] .d04:15
phobiacHow do I tell how much space is left on a partition?04:15
vn-yea but say I wanna start beryl-manager..04:16
Jucatophobiac: df -h or System Settings -> Advanced -> Disk & Filesystems04:16
hammer2 kernel 2.6.17-10-generic do what do i edit i seen this Setting up linux-kbuild-2.6.20 (2.6.20~rc6-1~experimental.1~snapshot.8221) ..then rebooted04:16
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Jucatovn-: #ubuntu-xgl has some guides for that in their /topic04:16
phobiacHmm okay, df -h doesn't tell me how much is left on the partition I'm using.04:17
Jucatophobiac: it tells you the usage for all mounted partitions...04:18
DaSkreechvn-: ah then a) ask in #beryl and b) try the startx script04:18
phobiacWell then maybe that's my issue...hold on.04:18
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DaSkreechhammer2: Yes?04:19
hammer2see my qustions?04:19
hammer2can ya help walk me through?04:19
phobiacNo. That's not it.04:19
DaSkreechhammer2: Yeah sorry not really paying attention. What broke?04:19
hammer2 kernel 2.6.17-10-generic do what do i edit i seen this Setting up linux-kbuild-2.6.20 (2.6.20~rc6-1~experimental.1~snapshot.8221) ..then rebooted04:19
phobiacJucato: I need to see how much space is left on my / partition and df -h doesn't tell me.04:20
hammer2i used apt-get to install linux-kbuild-2.6.2004:20
Jucatophobiac: use pastebin to show me the output of df -h04:20
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phobiacJucato: Can't04:20
Jucatoah no X?04:20
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DaSkreechRight, Then it should be set as your default04:20
DaSkreechphobiac: Any otehr computers in the building?04:21
indraanyone here know how to install "dpkg" package?04:21
hammer2but when i do uname -a shows the original04:21
BluesKajmy ktorrent crashed and now it won't reinstall : configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!04:21
Jucatophobiac: it has no line that says "/" under the "Mounted on" column?04:21
phobiacDaSkreech: The one I'm on.04:21
phobiacJucato: No, but apparently / is mounted.04:21
Jucato!dpkg | indra04:21
ubotuindra: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.04:21
Jucatoindra: right-click on the package -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package04:22
phobiacOr not. sudo mount / says that it's "already mounted or / busy"04:22
indrai have installed new embedded linux...but there is no dpkg...no gcc..no make... what can I do?04:22
indrajucato-- this is not in kubuntu04:22
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DaSkreechindra: What Linux base did you use to install?04:22
Jucatophobiac: hm.. you know what partition / is on? then do "df -h /dev/partition"04:22
indradaskreech-- debian04:23
Jucatoindra: um...embedded Linux? then this isn't the place to ask... but normally it's "dpkg -i filename.deb"04:23
DaSkreechindra: and it has no dpkg ?04:23
phobiacIs / the same as /dev?04:23
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phobiacOh wait04:23
indrayes, no dpkg04:23
DaSkreechJucato: indra needs to install dpkg04:23
Jucatophobiac: for example, if / is installed04:23
indrasorry jucato04:23
Jucatophobiac: for example, if / is installed on /dev/hda1, then do "df -h /dev/hda1"04:23
JucatoDaSkreech: ouch...04:24
Jucatohow hard would that be... :(04:24
DaSkreechindra: I think that #debian would have more expertise04:24
Jucatoyes... this is #kubuntu....04:24
phobiacYeah, it's either hda1 or 2, I thought.04:24
Jucatophobiac: then do that df -h command04:25
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ssmasudhow do I uninstall my TCL which I manually installed through src build...it resides in usr/local/tcl?????04:25
phobiacIt has to be mounted, that's what I'm running kubuntu off of.04:26
indrakubuntu is debian too... yes, in packages.debian.org, there is an dpkg package...in .deb and in .tar.gz.. how to install it while I have no dpkg, no gcc, no make?04:26
phobiacBut the df -h command doesn't show a / partition.04:26
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Jucatoindra: the problem is, we don't have an embedded Kubuntu. such instances needs special Debian knowledge, which probably most of us can't provide...04:27
Jucatosome are regular users too...04:28
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DaSkreechindra: What do you have?04:28
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DaSkreechphobiac: less /etc/fstab04:29
indrajust 468 commands..04:29
ssmasudhow do I uninstall my TCL which I manually installed through src build...it resides in usr/local/tcl???04:29
DaSkreechMake sure you know which one is /04:29
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Jucatossmasud: if you haven't deleted the directory where you ran make (or where the Makefile is located), run "make uninstall"04:29
DaSkreechssmasud: Do you still have the folder that you did the make; make install in?04:29
indrajucato---ok, I understand..i think just you can help... but thank you for your attention..04:30
ssmasudDaSkreech.....yes i have that directory04:30
DaSkreechindra: how did you install04:30
DaSkreechssmasud: make uninstall04:30
Jucatoindra: DaSkreech might be able to help you. he seems to know *a lot* :P04:30
Edoilers94does anyone have a few minutes to spare?   to help with VLC player?04:30
phobiacYeah, fstab shows my / partition. df -h doesn't.04:30
DaSkreechI might not but i can guess :)04:30
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indraDaSkreech-- install package?04:31
indraDaSkreech-- or install the linux?04:31
DaSkreechEdoilers94: no to the first question maybe to the second04:31
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DaSkreechindra: the linux04:31
Edoilers94i have it already installed, but cant seem to get it to play dvd's04:32
phobiacThis sucks. I still don't have X.04:32
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DaSkreechEdoilers94: Did you install libxine-extracodecs ?04:32
indraI downloaded the image first..and then, just sudo dd if=<imagename> of=/dev/<devicename> bs=51204:32
phobiacWell, running X works. But logging in or doing startx doesn't.04:32
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Edoilers94dont think so, had a guy from here help install it yesterday04:33
DaSkreechphobiac: right so X isn't broken it's what X runs04:33
DaSkreechkdm is working?04:33
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phobiacThat's probably what broke. How do I test kdm?04:33
DaSkreechEdoilers94: do you use adept or the command line?04:33
Edoilers94the error i get is /media/cdrom0 is a folder, but a file is expected04:33
Edoilers94<--- very new04:33
yamathanOkay, XFree86-DRI is giving me Hell.04:34
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yamathanHow do I disable it?04:34
Edoilers94i used terminal to install vlc04:34
indraDaSkreech-- I downloaded the image first..and then, just sudo dd if=<imagename> of=/dev/<devicename> bs=51204:34
DaSkreechindra: Woah :)04:34
DaSkreechwhat do you want to install?04:34
phobiacDaSkreech: How do I test if kdm is working?04:34
Jucatophobiac: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start04:35
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indraDaSkreech-- of course the dpkg package..i think that's the key to install the other packages04:39
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Edoilers94may i msg you DaSkreech?04:39
DaSkreechWhich other packages?04:39
yamathanSorry, my session crashed.04:39
DaSkreechEdoilers94: Oh sorry :-)04:39
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Edoilers94no worries04:39
DaSkreechEdoilers94: try sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs04:39
DaSkreechI thought i said that to you already04:39
yamathanWhy is XFree86-DRI freaking out?04:39
DaSkreech talking to 7 people04:39
indraDaSkreech-- gcc, make, my Wireless PCI adapter driver, etc04:39
yamathanMore importantly, how can I disable it?04:39
underdog5004what's the command to view how much space is available on a hard drive?04:39
phobiacJucato: That gives me "Starting K Display manager : kdm is already running."04:39
Edoilers94when i did my upgrades, would that be one of them?04:39
DaSkreechphobiac: Where is it running/04:39
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DaSkreechunderdog5004: df -h04:39
Jucatophobiac: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart04:39
underdog5004thank you04:39
DaSkreechEdoilers94: Maybe :)04:39
Jucatophobiac: or try to Ctrl+Alt+F704:39
DaSkreechThat's what I want to see04:39
Jucatothat's where kdm usually starts04:39
BluesKajKtorrent crashes and won't reinstall after complete removal : configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation...any ideas ?04:39
Edoilers94ok, well that didnt seem to work sorry04:39
DaSkreechBluesKaj: What's the crash error?04:39
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DaSkreechEdoilers94: What did it say?04:39
phobiacDaSkreech: session (Display?) 7. ctrl+alt+F7 brought me to the login screen.04:39
Edoilers94Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:39
indraDaSkreech-- any idea?04:39
phobiacSo did the restart thing04:39
indraEdoilers94-- dependency problem?04:39
DaSkreechEdoilers94: ah04:39
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:39
DaSkreechEdoilers94: can you read the first link :)04:39
Jucatophobiac: ctrl+alt+7 is usualy Display :0:0, where X first starts04:39
ubotudri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.04:40
phobiacJucato: Then that's where it is04:40
yamathan... Huh.04:40
DaSkreechindra: I think asking in #debian is a good way to go04:40
Jucatophobiac: yep04:40
Edoilers94in the terminal?04:40
yamathanHey, guys, not to be stupid, but why is fglrx freaking out re: not finding XFree86-DRI?04:40
DaSkreechyamathan: take that line out of your xorg.conf04:40
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yamathanAll of it?04:40
DaSkreechyamathan: Ah wait put it in04:40
DaSkreechno it needs DRI04:40
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yamathanThen ... Huh.04:41
yamathanI wonder why it's panicking.04:41
indraDaSkreech-- ok..04:41
BluesKajDaSkreech, signal 6 SIGABRT04:41
phobiacSo what can I do? Is there a way to reconfigure/reinstall/whatever kdm?04:41
indraDaSkreech-- thanx 4 ur attention04:41
yamathanTo quote -- "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"."04:41
DaSkreechindra: If you get an answer and I'm stil awake I'd love to hear what you did04:41
yamathanBut, uh, I thought I had that *installed*04:42
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indraDaSkreech-- OK04:42
DaSkreechyamathan: check if it's "on" in your xorg.conf04:42
DaSkreechBluesKaj: You did a purge ?04:42
makuseruwhat is a good screen capture program for kubuntu04:42
yamathanUh ...04:42
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yamathanWould "0666" suffice?04:43
phobiacJucato: Do you know what I can do? Can kdm be reconfigured/reinstalled/something?04:43
ssmasudDaSkreech.....i am doing make uninstall...but its not removing the package....04:43
DaSkreechyamathan: Lost me04:43
alaanyone know of a good tutorial that shows you how to convert a running system to raid??04:43
yamathanDaSkreech: To quote, "04:43
yamathanSection "DRI"04:43
Jucatophobiac: you tried logging in? still throwing you back?04:43
yamathanOh, sorry for the flood.  :s04:43
BluesKajno DaSkreech , i forgotten the purge cmnd :(04:43
Jucato!pastebing | yamathan04:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:43
Jucato!pastebin | yamathan04:43
ubotuyamathan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:43
DaSkreechyamathan: sounds good04:44
Jucatogrr I can't spell...04:44
yamathanSorry, Jucato.04:44
DaSkreechBluesKaj: sudo apt-get remove ktorrent --purge04:44
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phobiacJucato: Uhhm, no. It isn't. Now it freezes on a blank screen.04:44
phobiacI guess this is progress...04:44
Edoilers94no luck still04:44
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makuseruwhat is a good screen capture program for kubuntu04:45
Theorymakuseru: press your print screen button04:45
phobiacJucato: Thank you for your help though. You too Daskreech.04:45
Jucatomakuseru: KSnapshot04:45
yamathanIt claims there's an fglrx section in xorg.conf ...04:45
Jucatophobiac: sorry couldn't help more... I'm just... um.. confused...04:45
BluesKajyamathan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a04:45
Jucatoright now...04:45
yamathanYet I'm looking at it and I have yet to find it!04:45
phobiacJucato: I am too :(04:45
yamathanThank you, BluesKaj.04:45
makuseruoops, video screen capture, not a screenshot04:45
BluesKajyamathan, it may help04:46
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phobiacmakuseru: The only video screen capture I know of is Istanbul and the one beryl has.04:46
Jucatomakuseru: also try screenkast, but it's not in the repositories04:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Istanbul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:47
makuseruis that not one in the reops?04:47
phobiacJucato: Okay so I restarted kdm again, and now I still have the kickback to login screen issue.04:47
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phobiacIt is in the repos04:48
DaSkreechphobiac: ok so can you find your startkde script/04:48
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phobiacAt least it was last I checked.04:48
makuseruwhydosnt ubotu know about it04:48
ssmasudI want to remove tcl which I installed from a src distribution in /usr/local/tcl.......i am doing "dpkg -r tcl" but its not removing it...."dpkg -l tcl" shows tcl but it says no description..what to do04:48
DaSkreech!info instanbul04:48
ubotuPackage instanbul does not exist in any distro I know04:48
yamathanJust a moment, right back!04:48
phobiacDaSkreech: The kdeautostart folder?04:48
DaSkreech!info screenkast04:48
ubotuPackage screenkast does not exist in any distro I know04:48
Jucatossmasud: did you do "make uninstall" as we said earlier?04:49
DaSkreechphobiac: no04:49
makuseruistanbul IS in the rops04:49
ssmasudjucato.....its not working.....04:49
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Jucatossmasud: what does it say?04:49
DaSkreechphobiac: which startkde04:49
phobiacDaSkreech: I don't know where to find that. Home folder? Root?04:49
DaSkreechphobiac: type what I just said :)04:49
slestakhow can i tell if im using Xgl or AIGLX?  I have xorg7.1 installed, but I see some evidence that xgl is installed.  I am using fglrx driver from repos04:49
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Jucatomakuseru: I sadi screenkast isn't :)04:49
ssmasudjucato..."no rule to make target uninstall"04:50
Jucatossmasud: did you run "make uninstall" in the same directory were you ran "make" and "make install"?04:50
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makuseruJucato: ubotu said istanbul wasnt04:51
Jucato!info istanbul04:51
phobiacDaSkreech: It gave me a few errors, for some annoying reason page up won't send me back up, and the only error I can see is "Can't contact kdeinit!"04:51
ubotuistanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB04:51
Jucatomakuseru: ^^04:52
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phobiacOh and "xprop: unable to open display '"04:52
Jucatomakuseru: small letter 'i'04:52
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yamathanArgh!  >: E04:52
yamathanI'm still getting a big fat "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." when I go via fglrxinfo.04:52
DaSkreechphobiac: shift +pgup04:52
phobiacDaSkreech: Aha it works04:53
DaSkreechhighly useful04:53
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Jucatossmasud: I'm not sure anymore, because it seems that the Makefile that was produced by "make" is missing04:53
phobiacyamathan: Is your vid card ATI?04:53
yamathanOh yes.04:53
slestakyamathan: im troubleshooting same error.04:53
phobiacOkay uhm, I had that issue. I recall something about turning off composite.04:53
yamathanI already did that.  :s04:53
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phobiacYou did that? Okay04:53
slestakphobiac: mine as well.04:54
ssmasudjucato....I have to install ns2....i am already very late.....its an all-in-one package....so it gives an error on tcl.....can u please help me04:54
phobiacDid you change the driver in Xorg to fglrx and not ati?04:54
DaSkreechssmasud: What kind of error on tcl ?04:54
yamathanOh yes.04:54
JucatoDaSkreech: can you help... I'm sort of a bit dizzy04:54
phobiacyamathan: Then I have no idea. Sorry. :(04:54
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DaSkreechJucato: With?04:55
ssmasudDaSkreech......it says that variables already defined....or already installed..it exits installation...04:55
JucatoDaSkreech: ssmasud's problem04:55
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DaSkreechsure go to bed04:55
DaSkreechssmasud: can you pastebin the errors?04:55
JucatoDaSkreech: I'm not going to bed at noon! :P04:55
ssmasudcan u plz give me the pastein link??04:55
yamathanAaaaand now Beryl's looking for a composite extension.04:55
phobiacOh crap, I think I've found my problem.04:55
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slestakyamathan: i looked in Xorg.0.log and theres some indicaiton that acceleration is working. but glxinfo always retirns that XFREE86-Dri error04:56
yamathanWhat the Hell.  :s04:56
yamathanReally now.04:56
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phobiacSo it seems my /home/admin directory is full? I thought the partition I had that on was bigger then that. Hmm, well, time to do some digging and delete some files.04:57
slestakwheres out pastebin here?04:57
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ssmasudDaSkreech.....I am sorry..i am getting the errors for TK...not for tcl.....when i type "whereis tk" then it say.../usr/lib/tk8.4...i have to remove tk...in order to proceed with ns2's installation04:57
phobiacI *think* this is from compiling firefox. The source must have pushed my partition close to it's limits. I'm going to have to change the size of that when this gets fixed.04:58
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phobiacDaSkreech and Jucato: I think I've found the problem. Thank you SO much.04:58
arunkalehey people04:58
morticiwould anyone know of any reason as to why my fonts in my web pages (which were fine) are all a sudden extreamly small, the ctrl+mouse wheel trick works but i hav eto do it everytime the browser starts04:58
arunkalelong time no see04:58
endo602how can i get kopete to keep bigger font04:58
endo602nothing is working04:58
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slestakyamathan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3788/04:59
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phobiacWhen you do rm does it move files to trash or fully delete?04:59
DaSkreech!pastebin | ssmasud04:59
DaSkreechWake up!04:59
ubotussmasud: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:59
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DaSkreechDid I just get kicked?05:00
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DaSkreechwhat was the last thing i said?05:00
phobiacWake up!05:00
DaSkreechDid the bot wake up?05:00
DaSkreechOk did ssmasud pastesomethign ?05:00
phobiacDaSkreech: Does rm move files to the trash or do a full delete?05:00
phobiacNot yet05:00
yamathanslestak: I have no idea.05:01
DaSkreechfull delete05:01
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slestakphobiac: completely removes them05:01
DaSkreech there is no trash on the command line05:01
phobiacThank you05:01
morticigod i hope i don't have to create a new user profile :/05:01
DaSkreechmortici: You make it sound so horrible :)05:01
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DaSkreechssmasud: What are you installing?05:02
arunkaleI'm getting a new PC, does Kubuntu support Nvidia GeForce video cards?05:03
ssmasudDaSkreech...I am installing Network simulator2.....it needs tcl,tk,otcl,nam, etc..which it installed automatically...but i installed tcl and tk manually from src.....i have to remove tk now...05:03
morticiDaSkreech: you have no idea its annoying, that and Konq font is fine05:03
DaSkreechdo a which tk05:03
morticibut some/most gtk (gnome based) apps are the only ones with this issue wtf05:04
DaSkreechmortici: What's the problem?05:04
Jucatomortici: have you tried adjusting the fonts in Konqueror -> Settings -> COnfigure Konqueror -> Fonts ?05:04
morticiJucato: konq is fine05:05
morticifirefox/swiftfox is now05:05
morticierr not05:05
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morticikonq sucks as a web browser :/05:05
Jucatooh... hm... non-KDE apps..05:05
slestakanyone know how to verify if Xgl or AIGLX is installed?05:05
DaSkreechssmasud: you have two tk?05:05
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ssmasudDaSkreech....no i have only once version...i have to remove it because NS2 itself installs its TK05:06
slestakand does AIGLX use DRI?05:06
DaSkreechssmasud: and make install didn't remove it?05:06
ssmasudDaSkreech...no make uninstall didnt remove it05:06
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DaSkreechwhat is still left?05:07
yamathanI wonder ...05:07
yamathanWhy do I have AIGLX and GLX both installed?!  D:05:07
arunkaledoes Beryl work on KDE?05:07
morticiarunkale: very much so05:07
slestakyes, I am using it05:07
morticii use it daily :)05:07
morticii help find bugs :D05:08
slestakberyl + kiba-dock is nice with kde05:08
arunkaleI was wondering if I should use Beryl, or something else05:08
indraDaSkreech-- I have something, but I don't understand..in #debian, someone suggest me to run: ar x dpkg_fooversion.deb; tar -zxf data.tar.gz -C /;05:08
arunkaleI'm getting a new PC with an Nvidia GeForce video card, is that fine?05:08
ssmasudDaSkreech....there is tk installed .....when I type dpkg -l tk...it shows me tk installed but with "no description"...when I type "whereis tk" it shows me that tk is intalled in /usr/lib/tk8.405:08
morticiarunkale: nvidia is easier to get working than ati/intel whatever else lol05:09
phobiacHoly zombie jesus05:09
DaSkreechssmasud: and you are still getting errors?05:09
arunkalemortici: that's what I thought05:09
slestakarunkale: i have been pleasantly surprised that some of my ,marginal machines do fine with beryl05:09
ssmasudDaSkreech ..yes05:09
phobiacJucato, DaSkreech: It's working! Thank you both *SO* much.05:09
DaSkreechindra: he's saying grab the deb for dpkg05:09
cory_hey new to here got message on screen saying sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting. what does this mean05:09
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arunkalemortici: How easy is it to get Beryl set up?05:09
morticimy next puter that i build is gonna be able to calculate the interwebz twice over P05:09
DaSkreechphobiac: thank us tomorrow05:10
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morticiarunkale: if you know what your doing,  i had it setup in under 15 mins after full os install :)05:10
DaSkreechthat way you know it will be workign and we'll remember05:10
arunkalemortici: cool05:10
DaSkreechcory_: some sound bug05:10
indraDaSkreech-- how about data.tar.gz? is it something that I must looking for too?05:10
DaSkreechcory_: Let me know if it comes back05:10
arunkaleI've been using Kubuntu for close to a year now05:10
morticithe nvidia drivers (beta ones) are the trickiest part as well as modifing the xorg.conf file :)05:10
phobiacI'll pop in tomorrow if it's still working. Thank you both again so much. I have my computer back!05:10
morticithen you should have no prob, there is  A LOT of documentation on beryl for ubuntu :)05:11
arunkalemortici: will i be required to modify xorg.conf? or does it just work out of the box05:11
indraDaSkreech-- do you understand 'debootstrap'?05:11
DaSkreechindra: No that will come from the .deb05:11
slestakthe nvidia drivers do an ok job without installing XGL or AIGLX, it05:11
morticiarunkale: you will have to add 2 lines to xorg.conf for better stability and functionality05:11
indraDaSkreech-- o I c05:11
DaSkreechphobiac: you were ircing from the command line?05:11
morticibesides that the latest nvidia drivers come with aiglx built in so no worries there05:11
morticijust sudo aptitude install beryll05:11
morticiafter you add the source repo :)05:12
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indraDaSkreech-- do you understand 'debootstrap'?05:12
DaSkreechIn my awake state yes05:12
phobiacDaSkreech: Yeah. Irssi ftw05:12
DaSkreechphobiac: kudos05:12
DaSkreech :)05:12
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morticiim prepping my desktop for a vista install :)05:12
morticitri boot of course05:12
arunkaleI'm actually wondering if I should install kubuntu on the new PC.. I mean I love it, but most of my work requires me to use Windows05:12
morticixp, kubuntu, vista :D05:12
phobiacRight now I'm on a seperate comp, still irssi though.05:12
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surgyarunkle: whats the problem and what requires you to use windows?05:13
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morticino personal enjoyment05:13
arunkalesurgy: there's no problem as such, i've been dual booting between kubuntu and windows xp in the last year05:13
surgymortici: ok install win xp on a hdd and then vista onn another hdd and then kubuntu last05:13
DaSkreechsurgy: I think he said his problem was his job :)05:14
morticiim so agitated by firefox/gtk apps right now, for some reason fonts don't wanna cooperate05:14
arunkalemost of my work involves designing, which i use windows for05:14
morticiis there any way to delete firefox settings files05:14
Dr_willis'designing' :)05:14
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surgyanyone know of a good program that i can use to monitor my bandwidth? not control but monitor05:14
Dr_willismortici,  remove the .firefox or .mozilla dir perhaps.05:14
morticisurgy: i gots it under controll05:14
morticimmmm k05:14
DaSkreechmortici: .firefox/profiles/your_profile05:14
morticino such dirs05:15
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phobiacAlright, I'm switching over to my now working computer. I'll be back here in a minute to see if I can help with anything.05:16
phobiacThanks again for all the help.05:16
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Dr_willisits .mozilla/firefox05:16
DaSkreechmortici: No .mozilla?05:16
morticiDaSkreech: i deleted the .mozilla folder05:17
cory_anyone know how to install ati graphics drivers05:17
morticifixed the issue05:17
morticijust the app it self now has oversized fonts05:17
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:17
morticilike the menus05:17
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morticiactually i don't mind it05:18
morticiits ok :)05:18
cory_i have video card05:18
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cory_and it is in my computer but linux did not recognize it05:19
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yamathanHey, how's the BitLord reverse engineering going?05:20
arunkaleuh oh.. looks like it's complicated to install drivers for nvidia geforce05:20
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morticiif i make my own debs and install them, but there is a repo that updates those same debs, will the repo update the debs or do i have to do it manually?05:20
Dr_willisI dident think Vista had the updated windows filesystem, it got yanked by MS.05:21
yamathanOh ho ho.  :305:21
yamathanI wouldn't doubt that.05:21
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Dr_willisyamathan,  Im pretty sure that was one of those 'BIG' improvements - that got yanked by ms. :)05:21
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Dr_willisNo fancy new FS, no DX-10, and somthing else...05:22
DaSkreechIt is a new version of NTFS though05:22
Dr_willisVista i hear is more of a disaster then XOP. :)05:22
DaSkreechThere is DX-1005:22
yamathanAs much as I'd like to see the Titan fall, I don't see people switching over FROM Vista ...05:22
morticiarunkale: no its not :P05:22
yamathanBut, uh, they aren't going to see much migration from XP to Vista until assurances are actually made and kept.  :P05:22
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yamathan*I DO see quite a few people switching from Vista to Mac, though.05:23
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=== yamathan wouldn't mind running Kubuntu with XGL+Beryl on a MacBook.
yamathanOh ho ho!  :o05:23
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morticiwe sell mac books at best buy too now05:24
morticiand ppl are buying them like crazy05:24
yamathanThey're nice, but DAMN they're expensive.05:24
morticii personally don't think vista is no where near ready to be released but they did :/05:24
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: how goes?05:24
yamathanThe only way Vista is going to find its way on my machine in the next two years is if Spore is Vista-only.05:24
yamathanAnd if it's Vista-only I am NOT going to be happy about it!  >: EE05:24
surgysomeone wanna walk me through compiling and installing from source?05:24
EdOilers94i sell Macs aswell, have alot ppl return them too05:24
xsachamortici: it looked better 3 years ago than it does now.. let them have anymore time with it and it'll get worse05:25
DaSkreechsurgy: What are you compiling?05:25
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EdOilers94hey surgy05:25
DaSkreechEdOilers94: People expect them to be windows with out viruses?05:25
xsachamortici: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ifQvQCO7Y vista 3 years ago.. :P05:25
yamathanYou gotta be KIDDING me.05:25
cory_how do you register in irc05:25
EdOilers94most find they cant do as much on them05:26
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration05:26
yamathanI mean, even Linux isn't virus-FREE ...05:26
surgyedoiler84: hey05:26
yamathanAlthough it IS significantly harder!05:26
surgydaskreech: bandwidth monitor from source forge05:26
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DaSkreechsurgy: try sudo apt-get install bandwidthd05:27
yamathanAnd, uh, for the record, Fedora Core might have a million-so users (according to the official repository's unique-IP logging), but I like Kubuntu/Ubuntu a LOT more than Fedora.05:27
DaSkreechsurgy: do yuo use cli or adept?05:27
arunkaleyamathan: I agree05:27
DaSkreechdid you search for bandwidth in it?05:28
arunkalei've tried both suse and fc and i think kubuntu is waay better05:28
xsachame too05:28
yamathanI've been eyeing Saboyan for a friend, though!05:28
xsachafor a packaged base distro05:28
yamathanAnd when I say "for a friend" I also mean me.05:28
xsachabased on gentoo, right?05:29
yamathanI believe so, yes.05:29
arunkaleIs that another OS?05:29
yamathanThat's why I'm very leery about recommending it.05:29
xsachaantoher linux distro05:29
surgydaskreech:Searching now05:29
yamathanI have ZERO experience with Gentoo.05:29
morticixsacha: lol i agree with you after that video :P05:29
xsachamortici: :P05:29
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arunkaleyamathan: I just did a google search for saboyan, didn't get anything significant05:29
morticixsacha: that looked like a PROMISING os05:30
surgydaskreech: thnx man found it05:30
xsachaarunkale: cause he spelt it wrong... Sabayon05:30
DaSkreechsurgy: or bmon05:30
arunkalexsacha: thanks :)05:30
yamathanSorry, man.05:30
xsachaarunkale: that was vista about 3 years ago05:30
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xsachamortici: that was vista about 3 years ago*05:30
xsachaarunkale: wrong person :P05:31
arunkalexsacha: that's ok :) btw, you've got me all curious now. what was vista 3 years ago05:31
yamathan:D :D :D05:31
morticixsacha: lol talk about down grading ahahah XD05:31
yamathanMan, that IS winneration.05:31
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yamathanSo that's the old version of Ribbon?05:32
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EdOilers94surgy you busy?05:33
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DaSkreechssmasud: How you doing?05:35
surgyedoilers94: i pmed you05:36
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DaSkreech!ati > oneeye05:38
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phobiacI'm getting a weird bug in Amarok05:44
phobiacIt says, "The xml transferlist was invalid" then to inform the developers.05:44
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phobiacAnd my music isn't showing up in it.05:44
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silentdestructhi i was wondering what graphics driver i should use for beryl. im running intel chipset 965 and graphics accelertor x3000?   beryl continues to crash when trying to run05:46
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Dr_willisx3000 - that an ati card?05:47
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Dr_willisYou may not get very good performacnce with onboard video. sadly..05:47
silentdestructi knew that, i was just wondering if it works or if therse a driver i can use05:48
Dr_willisso this is an onboard ati x3000 video?05:48
silentdestructits not ati05:48
xsachaintel 965 will work fine in beryl05:48
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silentdestructh/o ill get the whole name05:49
DaSkreechphobiac: rebuild the collection05:49
silentdestructIntel GMA X3000 onboard graphics subsystem05:50
xsachajust need direct rendering, AIGLX working (any new distro will have them working from install)05:50
phobiacVersion DaSkreech: I hope I don't have to :(05:50
xsachathen just install beryl and it should work05:50
DaSkreechphobiac: takes a long time?05:50
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phobiacYeah. I lose all my ratings too.05:50
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Dr_willis"oh the horrors"05:51
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phobiacIt's not really that bad, but I'd rather not have to do it if there's a way around it.05:52
phobiacI had all my music rated too.05:52
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silentdestructhow can i check to make sure direct rendering is on05:53
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silentdestructi remember runnign a test and it erroring05:53
silentdestructbut i forgot what i typed05:53
xsachasilentdestruct: glxinfo | grep direct05:53
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silentdestructTo uninstall Automatix, do the following from terminal:05:54
silentdestructsudo apt-get remove automatix05:54
silentdestructlibgl warning: 3d driver claims to not support visual 0x5a05:54
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silentdestructdirect renderind: yes05:54
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xsachathat's good05:55
xsachaalso means aiglx is working05:55
silentdestructany ideas on why beryl is crashing when switching from kde05:55
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xsachawhen you run beryl from the terminal, do you see any error in the output?05:55
silentdestructim kinda a noob, whats the command05:56
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flaccid!mount > flaccid05:57
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silentdestructkilled everyting05:57
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xsachano error?05:57
silentdestructsent me to log in05:57
silentdestructdidnt get a chance to see05:57
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silentdestructwent black and then logged out05:58
phobiacsilentdestruct: You have Xgl set up right?05:58
xsachanot using Xgl05:58
phobiacOr AIGLX05:58
silentdestructits all on auto05:58
silentdestructive tryed it on xgl only, and nothing happens05:58
silentdestructit doesnt crash but it wont switch from kde then05:58
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phobiacLog back in and run beryl-manager05:58
phobiacInstead of beryl05:58
silentdestructhere it goes05:59
silentdestructfailed to open device05:59
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silentdestructDRM_I830_CMDBUFFER: -2205:59
silentdestructX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16805:59
silentdestruct  Major opcode:  14505:59
silentdestruct  Minor opcode:  305:59
silentdestruct  Resource id:  0x005:59
silentdestructFailed to open device05:59
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silentdestructX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16805:59
silentdestruct  Major opcode:  14506:00
silentdestruct  Minor opcode:  306:00
silentdestruct  Resource id:  0x006:00
silentdestructFailed to open device06:00
silentdestructX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16806:00
silentdestruct  Major opcode:  14506:00
silentdestruct  Minor opcode:  306:00
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Dr_willissilentdestruct,  theres no need to paste that06:00
silentdestruct  Resource id:  0x006:00
silentdestructFailed to open device06:00
silentdestructX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16806:00
silentdestruct  Major opcode:  14506:00
silentdestruct  Minor opcode:  306:00
silentdestruct  Resource id:  0x006:00
flaccid!baddevice > silentdestruct06:00
silentdestructFailed to open device06:00
silentdestructX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16806:00
phobiacsilentdestruct: Use pastebin so stuff like that06:00
silentdestruct  Major opcode:  14506:00
flaccid!paste > silentdestruct06:00
silentdestruct  Minor opcode:  306:00
silentdestruct  Resource id:  0x006:00
silentdestructFailed to open device06:00
flaccidsomeone ban silentdestruct please06:00
silentdestructX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16806:00
silentdestruct  Major opcode:  14506:00
silentdestruct  Minor opcode:  306:00
silentdestruct  Resource id:  0x006:00
silentdestructsorry if thats huge06:00
hammer2check it out boyz06:00
silentdestructbut the manager program did open06:00
silentdestructsorry again06:00
silentdestructsorry im new to this06:00
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hammer2kubuntu 610 edgy here06:01
hammer2hammer@lappy:~$ uname -a06:01
hammer2Linux lappy 2.6.20-rc6-686 #1 SMP Mon Jan 29 01:10:43 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux06:01
flaccidthis is not #paste ok!06:01
phobiac!past | silentmanager06:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:01
phobiac!paste | silentmanager06:01
ubotusilentmanager: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:01
Dr_willissilentdestruct,  thats messages because the wacom tablet is configured by default. its just a info/warning.06:01
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phobiacsilentmanager: Do you see a little red gem in your toolbar?06:02
phobiacWhereever you have it06:02
silentdestructyes i do06:02
silentdestructthats what i dont get06:02
silentdestructit runs, but nothing happens06:02
phobiacClick it, tell me what window manger it's set to.06:02
phobiacDo you see beryl as an option?06:02
silentdestructif i go to beryl it crashes06:03
phobiacOh it crashes when you choose it.06:03
silentdestructand logs me out and everything kills06:03
silentdestructnot fun06:03
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silentdestructany idea why its crashing?06:05
silentdestructand it doesnt run a fallback kde when it does06:05
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phobiacIs that option checked off?06:06
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silentdestructnope its on06:06
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d0dge-What should I use for streaming the whole soundcard to Icecast server?06:07
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xsachasilentdestruct: can you pastebin Xorg.0.log? http://pastebin.ca06:07
rendersooo... i just installed kubuntu06:07
renderi cant login. it wodn't accept my username / pw06:08
silentdestructwahts xorg log06:08
xsachasilentdestruct: /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:08
Dr_willisrender,  typed it in wrong would be my guess06:08
renderi have tried, retried, and tried some more06:09
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Dr_willisrender,  or the caps lock may of been on when you first entered it.06:09
xsachahave you ever logged in before?06:09
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Dr_willisor your key repeate is all messed up....06:09
Dr_willistry logging in from the console06:09
silentdestructok i got it06:09
rendernope, caps lock didnt work. no, i haven't ever logged in before06:10
renderand im completely new to linux so i dont know how to do anuything from console06:10
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xsachaso most likely entered it wrong first time when you created it06:10
Dr_willisthat would be my guess as well xsacha06:10
Dr_willisthats why i always use 'password' for my password. :)06:10
Dr_willisDarn! now i have to change it!06:10
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Dr_willisxsacha,  those are the passwords we use at work.. we have to change every 30 days.. so password1 becomes password2 and so on. :)06:11
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renderi could probably not be any more positive that i typed it right06:11
Dr_willisrender,  during the INSTALL you may of typed it in wrong.06:11
renderyes i know what you meant06:12
Dr_willisboot using that rescue mode perhaps?06:12
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Dr_willisbut im not sure of the proper way to reset the thing for a beginner. :) i'd boot a live cd, chroot to the existing system.. and use 'passwd username'06:12
Dr_willisbut im hardkore. :)06:13
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renderjust booted in recovery mode. im at a command line06:13
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Dr_willistry passwd YOURUSERNAME06:13
renderpassword updated succesfully06:14
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Dr_willisnow write it down on a post-it-note and stick it on the monitor!06:15
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xsachablack password ftw06:15
Dr_willisreboot. :)06:15
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Dr_willisand no password.06:18
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Dr_willisyou sure its 'music' ? :)06:21
DaSkreechrender: Know how to reboto from the command line?06:21
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phobiacYeah. I had about half of my music still on NTFS from immigrating from windows and not really knowing what to do with it. Amarok has to rescan my collection anyway so I figure why not move it to my ext3 partition that I have set up for media and the like.06:22
|Daisuke_Ido|phobiac: what db are you using in amarok?06:23
ForgeAusahh much better fstab fixed things06:23
phobiacNow all my music can be together, and away from any influence from windows.06:23
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phobiacDaisuke: I don't remember to be honest.06:23
phobiacLet me check06:23
|Daisuke_Ido|defaults to sqlite, i haven't attempted postgre, but i know mysql is a LOT faster than sqlite06:23
phobiacIt's porobably sqlite then.06:24
|Daisuke_Ido|i'm just curious about postgre's performance as far as scanning06:24
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phobiacHow hard is postgre to set up? I might be bored enough to attempt it.06:25
phobiacRight now though it's 12:30 in the morning and I'm running on about 4 hours of sleep. Yay for loss of my already short attention span.06:26
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renderworked alright. another question, though. why is display resolution maxed out at 1024x768?06:31
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renderanybody...?  =[06:32
phobiacrender: Your settings must have been, well, set up wrong.06:32
phobiacWhat's the resolution you know it can display?06:33
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ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:34
phobiacAha, try that06:34
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renderer, nothing happened06:36
renderand as for !resolution, it 'could not run'06:37
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usmanSamba 4.0.0TP3 Available for Download06:40
usmancan anyone tell me what is TP306:40
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phobiacRender: I meant go to the link it provided.06:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resoultion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:42
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:42
phobiacThe one at the bottom.06:42
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phobiacNight all06:45
silentdestructfinally got it to paste06:45
silentdestructnow whys beryl not working lol, or crashing06:46
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:51
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silentdestructberyl keeps crashing when trying to run07:00
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silentdestructeverything passes, max res is 2048x2048, no errors07:01
DaSkreechsilentdestruct: ask in #ubuntu-xgl07:01
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intelikeyDaSkreech you ran him off....07:12
Jucatossshh.... studying...07:14
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intelikey"Shhh       baby's asleep,"07:16
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intelikeySHUT UP! Ya dang fool.  can't ya see i've got a hang over...                  <<<  or maybe that one?07:18
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intelikeyanyone know perl ?    what's wrong with this script ? http://pastebin.ca/raw/336725  ???07:24
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intelikeyi can't get it to print anything to the screen.     admitedly i don't know much about perl, but what am i missing there ?07:25
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|Daisuke_Ido|i don't know *anything* about perl, but should there be an opening parentheses without a closing?07:26
|Daisuke_Ido|($memsources = etc etc etc07:26
|Daisuke_Ido|oh, no07:26
|Daisuke_Ido|nevermind, it's closed :\07:27
Jucatodoes one have to be root to add a printer?07:27
|Daisuke_Ido|i wouldn't think so07:27
Jucatook thanks07:27
DaSkreechYou just ahve to be a cups admin07:28
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morticiVista diserves die and burn, burn and go to hell and die.07:39
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ForgeAusnah not vista microsoft.. but then XP isn't so bad07:39
flaccidvista is bad mmk07:39
morticiit just almost ate my whole hdd's partition table07:40
morticithat and half of my drivers didn't work07:40
ForgeAusmortici... thats ok use grub07:40
morticiits supposed to have 30000 drivers built in thats bs07:40
|Daisuke_Ido|vista isn't bad07:41
ForgeAusyou need 30000 drivers to run a PC? wow! that sounds excessive07:41
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musyawhat sort of databases does open ofice make?07:41
|Daisuke_Ido|bad is waking up and finding an inch of water on the floor07:41
morticiits for "ease of install"07:41
xsachano, but a billion people do07:41
musyathe same kind as mysql would?07:41
ForgeAusmicrosoft office uses .mdb format07:41
|Daisuke_Ido|that's xp07:41
ForgeAusnot sure if thats changed in 2k707:41
ForgeAusits almost suprising they havn't made an access that does sql instead of .mdb's07:42
morticilol xsacha i wish it was like the video portrayed it to be07:42
musyaim talking about open office for kubuntu07:42
morticinow, now i have nothing but disgust for vista07:42
ForgeAus(as in from sql server)07:42
xsachayeah mortici, but if they did that in this version they wouldnt have anything for next version07:42
ForgeAusopen office? um is that kexi?07:42
xsachamortici: idea is sell this one on marketing07:42
ForgeAusI think it imports databases of many forms, not sure which one it works with natively07:43
|Daisuke_Ido|vista would be more like...  waking up to find someone has taken an x-acto knife to every cd in your collection and left you a note saying "if you want to listen to these, you have to buy them again!"07:43
musya??? it comes in kde? or at least with ubuntu07:43
musyawhat type would mysql database be?07:43
ForgeAuspersonally I dont know why we don't still just use .dbf's!07:43
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ForgeAuscompile multiple ones into a management system... maybe .dbms!07:44
musyahow do i change from kde to gnome without loggin out or restarting my computer?07:44
ForgeAusperhaps thats what .mdb was intended to be07:44
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ForgeAusyou can run gnome apps inside kde07:44
musyai know but if want to go back to the gnome enviroment.07:44
ForgeAusbut to switch you really need to log out and log back in07:45
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ForgeAusor run a nested or Virtual machine! lol07:45
musyaanyone know of an good text editing program for kde? like for programming07:45
|Daisuke_Ido|musya: vi07:45
Jucatomusya: or create a new user solely for each desktop environment and start a new session07:45
flacciddbf what is that?07:45
darthdualHey all, I'm having security issues with konqueror.  When I login to my msn.com email on hotmail.com, I have always have to enter the password twice.  The first time always reports that the password is incorrect.  Could I be the victim of a man-in-the-middle attack.07:45
musyai dont like kate07:46
flaccidmusya: kdevelop for ide, kate for TE07:46
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musyaemacs is pretty difficult07:46
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flaccidkwrite, kedit, nedit etc.07:46
musyai got kdevelop want too impressed07:46
|Daisuke_Ido|musya: then avoid vi like the plague07:46
musyai have gedit07:46
flaccidlots to choose from goto apt://search?text editor07:46
Jucatoheh... there's no pleasing anyone...07:46
|Daisuke_Ido|it makes emacs look easy :D07:46
flaccidi use kate all day every day07:46
musyail chek out kedit and nedit07:46
flaccidits fine07:46
|Daisuke_Ido|kate is actually pretty nice07:46
flaccidits all much of a muchness07:47
flaccidand it feels good to be using a woman07:47
Jucatoand most of all KDE development environments use Kate kpart07:47
Jucatoflaccid: baaad :P07:47
flaccidhehe yeah bit of a joke07:47
flaccida bad joke at that07:47
Phlostenbadoom ching!07:47
morticii love kubuntu07:48
darthdualAnyone here know about konqueror security?07:48
musyalol using woman07:48
musyai dont like konqueror07:48
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musyafirfox is better07:48
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darthdualmusya, why?  Is it known to be insecure at all?07:48
morticiwhy does konq suck as a web browser, and media and just browsing in general is overly slow or doesn't work07:48
morticii don't get it07:48
morticiid love to use it07:48
musyadoesnt load some pages like hotmail07:48
musyafreaks out on me07:48
Phlostenyeah, there are a few it borks at07:49
Jucatomost of the stuff that konqi couldn't load are due to non-standard coding and/or AJAX07:49
Phlosteni always find myself loading firefox07:49
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darthdualThe only reason I use it is that for some reason on ubuntu firefox won't load alot of web pages.07:49
darthdualnor epiphany, or galeon.......07:49
Phlostenas firefox has all the neato extensions :)07:49
musyai use konqueror to search for files07:49
darthdualAnyone know why that is.........07:49
|Daisuke_Ido|something's broken07:50
Phlostensounds broken07:50
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musyareload it07:50
Phlostenfirebug rocks07:50
xsacha'extentions' are terrible imo07:50
darthdualI noticed that the only pages it will load are https://   web sites but not http://07:50
xsachanever noticed that darth :S07:50
darthdualIs there a firewall setting I might be missing.07:51
|Daisuke_Ido|but "extensions" are awesome.07:51
Jucatodarthdual: hm.. what's the web page?07:51
Jucato(btw, konqueror has some extensions too... just not as many...)07:51
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darthdualAny page.  Sometimes they load and then sometimes they don't.07:51
xsachai've never liked firefox.. it feels bulky and looks ugly -- very slow compared to other browsers i use.     i end up using it a lot anyway (like at uni where i have no choice)07:51
darthdualBut konqueror works for me all the time.07:51
ForgeAusyay I fixed my dependancy problems07:51
|Daisuke_Ido|add the bells and whistles *you* want, rather than what the developer thinks you need (i'm looking at you, IE7)07:52
intelikeywhat's an extention ?    or extending what, maybe i should ask.07:52
ForgeAusbut still missing ubuntu-minimal :(07:52
xsachacant konqueror use all firefox extentions?07:52
Jucatoxsacha: nope07:52
morticixsacha: which browser do you use?07:52
ForgeAusif the rest of the OS works I think I might let it go07:52
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musyafirefox has had memory leak issues07:52
ForgeAusI don't understand why ubuntu minimal is a problem tho07:52
xsachadefinately memory leak issues07:52
xsachait gets up to 300MB here sometimes07:52
darthdualreally, memory leaks, that can't be good.07:53
musyaive had a like 1.3 gigs07:53
Jucato|Daisuke_Ido|: it's not about what the developr thinks you need, but about who would be developing those extensions and about system security/stability07:53
musyaonly if you got a lot of window open and for too long07:53
darthdualIsn't that an open hole for a hacker to exploit?07:53
musyalike a few days i a row07:53
intelikeyForgeAus cause it's a meta package that depends on every thing the ubuntu team thought important to a minimal ubuntu system   like restricted kernel modules and the like....07:53
xsachai dont have 1.3 gigs for it to steal (including paged), so it hasnt gotten to there for me but i bet it would07:53
ForgeAusmusya why do that?07:53
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ForgeAusintelikey I understand its a metapackage07:54
morticiwhat would be a good light weight browser then07:54
xsachadarthdual: no.. that's extra memory (RAM) thats get used up07:54
morticiim using swiftfox for now07:54
ForgeAusbut I am feeling a little insecure about the fact that my kubuntu doesn't seem to want to keep it07:54
musyasome people dont stop working, some dont turn off computer. some just too lazy07:54
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ForgeAusI seem to be able to fix things... but I can't seem to fix it withotu sacrificing ubuntu-minimal07:54
xsachadarthdual: problem in code.. stuff not being freed etcetera.. causes memory usage to skyrocket07:54
ForgeAuswhich tends to ring alarm bells07:55
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Jucatoubuntu-minimal itself isn't installed by default during the installation, only its dependencies (afaik)07:55
ForgeAusJucato but if its the important core of ubuntu07:55
intelikeyForgeAus alarm bells ?07:55
ForgeAussomething I've done/installed has undermined it/conflicted with it07:55
ForgeAuswhat does that say for my system?07:56
JucatoForgeAus: not really sure how important the metapackage is itself, since it's not installed by default anyway. but for the sake of upgrading from Dapper to Edgy, it had to be installed07:56
ForgeAuswell at least my kubuntu-desktop and now ubuntu-desktop is fine07:57
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oneeyeneed help installing vlc07:59
morticixsacha: btw i love trailfocus even more now :D07:59
morticii saw the edit in the source07:59
morticii looked yesterday07:59
intelikeyForgeAus i'd just remove all the meta packages with *ubuntu* in the name and go with it.       errr have.  actually.07:59
morticiand noticed that the common line couldn't be added07:59
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morticibut rather just needed to add wmType :P08:00
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xsachamortici: yeah well it was simplified08:00
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xsacha(x & y ) && !(z & y)     could be simplified08:01
surgywe dont get flash 8 do we?08:01
morticixsacha: do explain :)08:01
smaggardwhadya mean?08:01
xsachamortici: nevermind.. just didnt want redundant code08:01
surgyalso my windows start in the middle of my taskbar instead of to the left08:01
morticioh wait durrrrrhhh i get it :P08:02
surgywell i have the flash plugin for firefox but abc.com says i need flash 808:02
xsachayou got flash 708:02
intelikey( x , !z & y )08:02
xsachayou need the flash 9 plugin08:02
surgybut i can get it?08:02
Jucato!flash9 | surgy08:02
ubotusurgy: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash08:02
surgyhow do i make my windows open on the left side of my taskbar? at the end of my shortcuts08:03
morticiim no super code junkie, but wouldn't mind learning as much as possible08:03
smaggardthe new flash works super good08:03
Jucatosurgy: move the taskbar applet? it has a handle that lets you move it08:03
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surgyjucato no08:04
intelikeyif the pannel is not locked08:05
morticitheres flash 9 for linux?08:05
Jucatoif the handles are not hidden08:05
Jucatomortici: yep08:05
surgyjucato the taskbar is in the right place but when i open a window it opens right in the middle of the taskbar instead of off to the left08:05
Jucatosurgy: you might be confusing the panel (the whole bar) with the taskbar (which is just an applet, a part, a component of the panel)08:05
intelikeysurgy right click the thing and configure it.08:06
morticijucato is there a deb?08:06
Jucato!flash9 | mortici08:06
ubotumortici: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash08:06
Jucatomortici: better, it's in the repositories08:06
Jucatopackaged for you and tested to work :)08:06
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports08:07
surgyok the panel then, and there is no option for where the applications start in the config08:07
Jucatosurgy: when you hover over the taskbar area, you will see applet handles which you can drag/slide to position it08:08
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Jucatothe taskbar area is where your apps names start appearing08:08
surgyjucato: yeah thats what i thought at first but i dont see any08:08
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morticiJucato: sweet added the repo08:09
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Jucatosurgy: you must have set them to be hidden. right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Appearance -> click the Advanced Options. then set Applet Handles to Fade Out or Visible08:09
osloi'm looking for my krfb logs ..do you know where it could be ???08:11
Jucatooslo: try /var/log/ or if not there ~/.kde/share/apps/krfb08:11
surgyjucato: ahhh.... got it08:11
Jucatono problemo08:12
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:12
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash08:12
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morticii have non free installed08:13
surgyim not seeing flash 9 in adept and i have backports and restricted08:14
Jucatosurgy: are you sure you have edgy-backports enabled?08:15
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Jucatothe one with "edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" at the end08:15
surgyjucato: let me double check but im pretty sure08:15
morticiit should be flash-nonfree08:16
morticii think08:16
morticiyep thats the one08:16
osloJucato> i can't find it08:16
surgyjucato: yeah right here08:16
surgydeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse08:16
surgydeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse08:16
smaggardall u have to do is download the flash thingy and put it in your plugins dir.08:16
surgyjucato: found it hnx again08:16
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surgyjucato: abc.com is still saying i need flash 8 i probably need to upgrade now huh?08:19
Jucatosurgy: huh? flash 9 is higher than flash 808:20
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intelikeyhmmm    bash math is very limited...    echo $(((18 / 100) * 100))    should say 18  yes very simple  but bash doesn't do floating point, so how sould you do the same calculations without any dicimals ?08:21
surgyjucato: i know i installed the package you said, but now its upgrading a bunch of stuff, hold on it might work08:21
intelikeyah nm  i see it.     echo $(((18 * 100) / 100))08:21
surgyjucato: its still saying it needs flash 8......08:22
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Jucatosurgy: did you install flashplugin-nonfree?08:27
Jucatoworks fine here..08:27
surgyjucato: click on "full episodes" and yes thats the package i installed08:28
Jucatosurgy: what browser are you using?08:28
Jucatook let me try that08:28
Jucatoabc.com right?08:28
surgyyeah www.abc.com > full episodes08:29
Jucatowhat partitcular episode?08:29
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Jucatoor show08:29
Jucatohaha I'm not from the US :)08:30
xsachait says: "Only viewers within the United States can watch these videos."08:30
surgyit didnt give you the flash 8 error?08:30
xsachasurgy: can you give link to site after you click on one of the shows? (perhaps to bypass US check)08:31
surgyits before i click on shows actualy08:32
Jucatoah then there's no problem here...08:32
xsachano prob here08:32
xsachabut i wanna see one of the shows anyway :)08:32
Jucatoget a plan ticket08:32
xsachanaah i'd rather get a proxy server08:33
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xsachathats where i am.. ah i see: openPlayer(7);08:33
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orient2000Hi! Anybody can tell me how to upgrade KDE? I think there is a new stable versiom released.08:34
surgyorient2000: with magic08:34
surgywhats the command to remove all the dependant files that i dont need?08:35
xsachavar pagename = "PAGE_LANDING_ERROR_COUNTRY_AUS";08:35
orient2000what is magic?08:35
Jucatoorient2000: http://kubuntu.org08:35
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intelikeywhat i couldn't do with perl,  seemed simple with bash....  i guess it depends on which language you learn.08:37
Jucatothat's why I prefer English :D08:38
intelikeytobe haenglesh08:38
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intelikeyor yeah...08:39
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orient2000New KDE is for Edgy but I have Kubuntu 6.06.  Is it going to work?08:40
Jucatoorient2000: ah no...08:41
beleno - it's only for edgy08:41
Jucatoyou'd have to wait a bit to see if there will be a 3.5.6 for Dapper08:41
surgykewl so should i wait on feisty to come out before i get the new kde? or should i go ahead and get it? will it be on feisty-update?08:42
Jucatosurgy: are you on edgy?08:42
surgyjucato: yes 6.1008:43
Jucatosurgy: then you can upgrade to KDE 3.5.6 without upgrading to Edgy08:43
surgyjucato: im allready edgy08:43
Jucatoer I meant upgrading to feisty08:43
surgyjucato: but feisty is comming out in april right?08:45
surgyjucato: and if the new kde is on it then i can wait08:45
surgyjucato: and i only need one of those mirrors right?08:46
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yuriysurgy: yes you just need one mirror08:54
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ForgeAusok how do I get kicker to show back up again (its running still it just doesn't unhide itself for some reason)09:01
ForgeAusI wish I still had settings on my kmenu... I can show it from there09:01
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Steven_Mhi all09:10
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[StingRay] Hi. Are there other ways than setxkbmap and xmodmap, that one can use to change keyboard layouts?09:12
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intelikeythe kde pointy clicky thingy ?09:14
intelikeyand setting the locales ?09:15
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underdog5004whoa, kaffeine just crashed after I tried to skip back through some files that it was accessing remotely (not _those_ files, audio files stored on my local server). When I tried to skip back, kaffeine froze, then I did a killall kaffeine...now I get a error 11? I don't know much...here's the debugging stuff..        http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3805/09:15
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underdog5004The application kaffeine player crashed and caused the signal 11 [SigSeGv] 09:16
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underdog5004intelikey, bummer, hoped it was a quickfix09:17
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intelikeyunderdog5004 there may be.  i don't use the gui much.   but if you do find a bug, report it.09:22
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underdog5004gonna restart my computer first...for the first time in 2 weeks...09:23
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underdog5004intelikey, hmmm, a restart did it...09:27
underdog5004wonder what _that_ was all about...09:27
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Steven_Mhow do make edgy go on standby from the console?09:30
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makuseruhello, when i try to start a program it wont run, and if i try to launch it from a terminal i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3806/ can someone please help me figure out got to get it to run09:31
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intelikeywhat the krap am i missing here ?09:39
intelikeyecho "${mem[0] } - ${mem[1] } - ${mem[2] } - ${mem[3] }"09:39
intelikey255220 218172 1388 20480 -  -  -09:39
intelikeywhy does it move the  dashes to the end ?09:39
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intelikeywait.  i may know.09:39
Jucato$( ) ?09:40
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intelikeyJucato ?09:41
Jucatonvm me09:41
JucatoI just though $(mem[0] )09:41
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intelikeyok i found out why my problem...  but don't yet know the answer.09:42
makuseruhello, when i try to start a program it wont run, and if i try to launch it from a terminal i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3806/ can someone please help me figure out got to get it to run09:42
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intelikeymakuseru install gconf ?09:45
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MistaEDhey, would anyone know what's up with my kde? i've got edgy 64-bit and i keep hearing some insanely annoying sound now and again when an event happens, that and guidance/the xorg config fails to load09:46
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Steven_Mhow do make edgy go on standby from the console?09:57
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intelikeysuspend ?09:57
Steven_Mintelikey: yep09:58
Xemanthmy acer 5024wlmi suspends nicely but  never wakes up :D09:59
XemanthSteven_M: suspend1 or suspend2 ? :)09:59
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mike__is ubuntu and kubuntu repositories the same?10:01
Jucatomike__: yes10:01
Steven_MXemanth: what's the difference?10:01
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XemanthSteven_M: suspend2 is much improved10:01
Russell-i have a problem... can anyone help?10:01
Russell-i changed my ISP today, now internet is working on Windows, but not on Kubuntu 6.0610:02
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Russell-what might be the problem?10:04
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Steven_MXemanth: what about hibernation?10:09
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intelikeyha   pay dirt.     i found it.10:12
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fernandoI have problem with my Nvidia drivers10:13
fernandoIf I install it the process is correct10:13
Phlostenintelikey: what did you find?10:14
fernandoconsidering that the drivers need to compile again the drivers because not precompile exist for the kernel of kubuntu 6.1010:14
intelikeyPhlosten the all bash way to get the info out of a variable that i want      without  external commands like cut and tr10:15
fernandoI start the X server.. and everything work just fine... including direc rendering10:15
fernandobut, if I restart the system... then I get the problem..that the drivers are for a diferent kernel.., nevertheless after I restart everthiny work just fine10:16
intelikeyit was very simple as i knew it would be.    i was using  var="blah blah"    but needed  var=(blah blah)       "arrays"10:16
fernandoIf I install the drivers again everything work just fine again10:16
fernandosomeone can halp mi with that??10:17
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intelikey!ati | fernando10:18
ubotufernando: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:18
intelikeyif it's not there i can't help you ....10:18
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premier_hey guys, does anyone here know about mencoder?10:20
ubotumencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB10:20
Steven_Mhow do make edgy go on hibernate from the console?10:21
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bxnpwhat are you doing ubuntu10:25
ubuntui just booted up with kubuntu 6.10 live cd on vmware10:25
bxnpgo back to the right channel oh and10:25
ubuntuit says kmix not found the mix is installed and running by default10:26
bxnphow is it running10:26
intelikeySteven_M did you even look at the url that xemanth gave you ?10:26
intelikey http://www.suspend2.net/HOWTO-3.html#ss3.210:26
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ubotuhibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB10:26
Phlostendkhan: vmware doesn't share your audio device by default10:26
dkhanbxnp everything else is fine and except i can't hear any sounds10:27
dkhanphlosten how do fix that10:27
Phlostendkhan: shut down ubuntu, then in vmware edit the virtual machine setting and add an audio device to it10:27
dkhanphlosten thx i will try10:28
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zorglu_!info dbus-monitor10:34
ubotuPackage dbus-monitor does not exist in any distro I know10:34
jcmelitonanybody knows any program similar to spacemonger for windows?10:34
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dkhanalright it worked thx guys10:35
dkhannow one more prob when i boot from the cd on my dell inspiron xps it freezez anywork around that10:36
dkhanplus how do install network card drivers using the lspci or somthing can anybody give me a link for the tutorial10:36
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zorglu_this channel apparently died between sep06 and now10:39
dkhanso where can us noobs get help now10:40
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jcmelitonI find it KDirStat10:41
intelikey!wifi | dkhan10:41
ubotudkhan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:41
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:41
zorglu_dkhan: dunno10:41
ubotudbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.93-0ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 312 kB, installed size 660 kB10:42
zorglu_hehe :)10:42
zorglu_the simple make me think of the snmp simple :)10:42
dkhanubotu how do i edit the    boot options so my dell xps won't ffffreeze on live boot10:42
mike__is it safe to upgrade to fiesty? or its still a buggy version?10:42
intelikey!bot | dkhan10:43
ubotudkhan: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:43
zorglu_mike__: it is develepoement so expect bug10:43
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intelikey!fiesty | mike__10:44
ubotumike__: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+110:44
mike__zorglu: thanx ill tire it out10:44
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ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes10:47
zorglu_the edgy upgrade page is gnome only10:47
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intelikeydkhan but as per the question how to edit the boot options,  sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst10:47
zorglu_and dont recommend apt-get, while the page for kubuntu do use apt-get :)10:47
intelikeyzorglu_ clean install is probably less problematic on that upgrade.10:49
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)10:49
zorglu_intelikey: yep but i use this box :)10:49
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zorglu_intelikey: this page give stuff about apt-get, and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades this one say 'apt-get is dangerous'10:50
intelikeythe upgrade from dapper to edgy is dangerous.10:50
intelikeyyour point ?10:50
larson9999i upgraded and it went smoothly.  but clean install seems to be the prevailing wisdom.  actually, i did a clean install on a different machine and lots of things changed i couldn't figure out to get back.  like things in various system setup tools10:50
zorglu_ah ok10:51
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zorglu_ah ok i was under the impression it was supported to upgrade10:51
larson9999i always do an upgrade.  see how it goes and then if i don't like it do a clean install.  but i have plenty of time :)10:51
zorglu_is the issue will be fixed for edgy->feisty ?10:52
intelikeytechnally it is supported.10:52
intelikeyit's also been a common topic of discussion in here  "help i upgraded and now nothing works"   kind of thing.10:52
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larson9999intelikey: but id 'dangerous' the right word?10:53
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intelikeyedgy to feisty will be smoother yes it's a minor upgrade dapper to edgy is a major upgrade.10:53
zorglu_so the issue will be fixed for edgy->feisty ?10:53
zorglu_hmm ok so i will keep dapper :)10:54
zorglu_a full install is like 3-5 day of work :)10:54
intelikeyit's not an "issue"  it's lots of little issues combined into a huge bug.10:54
zorglu_having other disk etc...10:54
zorglu_hehe :)10:54
zorglu_well some considere being dangerous to upgrade as an issue :)10:55
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intelikeyit's a very dangerous thing for me to start typing in a console ....10:56
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intelikeyand extreemly dangerous if it's a root console  :)10:56
zorglu_oh i see10:57
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zorglu_ok where can i get info about upgrading ?10:57
larson9999thing is, it takes about the same to clean install as upgrade.  anyway, i'm here to tell you this time around i upgraded vs clean installed 3 out of 4 machines.  and the one i'm the least happy with is the clean install.10:57
intelikeydid you not see the links ubotu posted ?10:57
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zorglu_i did10:57
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zorglu_ok anybody else have an answer :)10:58
zorglu_i mean i guess im not the only one who want/wanted to upgrade from dapper/edgy10:58
orient2000type in console sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:59
intelikeylarson9999 that's fine.   just wondering one thing though,   are you going to help zorglu_ get dpkg fixed when it breaks in the middle of the upgrade ?10:59
intelikeyor do i have to do that ?10:59
larson9999lol.  zorglu_ DON'T upgrade!!!!10:59
zorglu_orient2000: well the official doc say 'apt-get is dangerous'11:00
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes11:00
zorglu_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades <- this one11:00
intelikeyna man go ahead.   somebody here will help you   IF it breaks.11:00
orient2000I use it all the time11:00
lea74Puis je vous pauser quelques questions btes ^^"11:00
zorglu_orient2000: how many time did it broke your install ?11:00
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zorglu_lea74: cest un cahnnel en anglais seulement11:01
zorglu_!fr | lea7411:01
ubotulea74: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:01
seven11what was the command for a looked /var/lib/dpkg/lock  ?11:02
intelikeysudo dpkg --congifure -a11:02
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"11:02
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orient2000maybe you can try sudo apt-get install -f11:03
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intelikeyorient2000 that's unaffective against /var/lib/dpkg/lock11:04
larson9999zorglu_ if you're not comfortable fixing your broken system, you really should clean install.  no two ways about it.11:04
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zorglu_larson9999: well i need to keep the box running, i use it everyday11:04
auserwhen i try to send a mail with telnet telnet says to me relayng not allowed, please use smtp auth11:04
intelikeyzorglu_ man just update the sources.list and do the upgrade thang ...11:05
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zorglu_larson9999: so i guess i will do a clean install, but it takes a LOT more time. like 3-5 days. using another partition etc... moving my own code+data etc...11:05
intelikeyooop larson999911:06
zorglu_intelikey: unfortunatly all show me this will break my box and i cant have that11:06
waylandbillis there resume capability for scp/sftp?11:06
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intelikeyif you can't have it in a broken state.  don't change it.11:06
intelikey"if it aint broke, don't fix it or it will be,"11:06
larson9999zorglu_: if you know how to do a clean install while your system is still running, you're savvy enough to handle the couple of things that 'break' doing an upgrade.  nothing you can't fix by a google and failsafe mode.11:07
waylandbillright. if it isn't broken or you aren't putting in a feature that is mandatory, don't mess with it11:07
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larson9999zorglu_: you're personal machine and you can't have ANY downtime?11:08
zorglu_larson9999: yep but while i do google and co, my box is no more running :)11:08
zorglu_larson9999: nope, i can spend a full day doing the update11:08
zorglu_larson9999: but 1 week is not acceptable11:08
waylandbillI have one that runs all the time and another that I toy with.11:08
intelikeywaylandbill the man page doesn't mention anything about continuing an scp11:09
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larson9999zorglu_: i doubt this will take you half a day.  i go back to:  if you know how to do a clean install while your system is still running, you're savvy enough to handle the couple of things that 'break' doing an upgrade.  nothing you can't fix by a google and failsafe mode.11:09
waylandbillintelikey: yeah. I looked there first. :-/11:09
zorglu_larson9999: ok thanks for the info. i guess i have to think more before deciding11:10
auserwhat menas please use smtp auth?11:10
intelikeyzorglu_ just do it.11:10
intelikeyyou know you want to11:10
intelikeygo ahead11:10
intelikeywhat have you got to loose11:11
waylandbillnot much to think about. if you cannot devote any time to fix a broken system, don't take action that may break it. seems pretty cut and dry.11:11
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larson9999zorglu_: but i think the LTS is for people running spam servers who can't afford more than a day's downtime.  i'd stick with it11:11
intelikeybesides i wont be in here to hear how much you hate me....11:11
waylandbillauser: authenticated smtp mode. you must give username and password to use the server11:11
intelikeyspam servers ?11:12
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larson9999or mp3 servers.  i'm not the nefarious type so i don't know the lingo :)11:12
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intelikeywill i need LAMP ?11:13
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intelikeyor just sendmail ?11:13
intelikeyok i'll quit.11:14
waylandbillthinking out loud: if an ISP required smtp auth, I'm sure they'd tell that in the setup instructions, wouldn't they?11:14
intelikeymost require  CHAP11:15
intelikeychaps my hide.11:15
intelikeywaylandbill what isp is it ?11:15
larson9999waylandbill: nah, they'd just give you a windows cd that set it up and hand up when you told them you were running linux11:15
intelikeyor what's their home page ?11:15
intelikeydes-quatro that11:16
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larson9999it's fun pretending your running windows when talking to customer service folks11:17
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intelikeywaylandbill must have stopped thinking...11:19
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mervteckhey guys11:20
mervteckanyone here tried airsnort?11:20
intelikeyairsnort - WLAN sniffer11:21
intelikeynot having wireless    ! i11:21
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mervteckare we allowed to talk about things liek airsnort in here?e11:22
intelikeyheh snort depends on cron    how eval.11:22
intelikeygeneral disscution is in #*ubuntu-offtopic help/support discussion in here.11:23
mervteckwell i need help getting airsnort to work XD i cant even get ark to read it to unpack it =11:23
mervteckoh wate i see why!11:25
waylandbilloh.. it wasn't for me. someone asked what smtp-was.11:25
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intelikeyark ?   unpack ?    it's in the repos...  use the package manager.11:25
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waylandbillI go to get a cup of coffee and I get many messages. lol11:25
mervteckit was a corrupted download11:25
mervtecki fixed it now though11:25
ubotuairsnort: WLAN sniffer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7e-1.1 (edgy), package size 49 kB, installed size 180 kB11:25
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mervteckhttp://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=33358&use_mirror=umn&filename=airsnort-0.2.7e.tar.gz&36682926 download link ^^11:26
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intelikeysorry. unless you can give me a good reason that the one in the repos is not sufficient and you need the source, i have no interest in helping you with it.11:28
mervteck hell if i know an idiot?11:28
mervteckoops sorry on taht type11:29
mervtecksharing a kb between 3 pc's >.<11:29
intelikeycall me lazy, call me hard nosed, just dont call me for support that isn't needed.11:29
mervteckoh and fyi the channel u gave me dont exist11:30
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waylandbillthe * was a wildcard, not a character in the channel name11:30
intelikeyi gave you a list of channels.   #ubuntu-offtopic #kubuntu-offtopic #xubuntu-offtopic #edubuntu-offtopic11:31
intelikey* == all chars.11:31
intelikey. or ? == any single char depending on the language.11:31
intelikeyexactly waylandbill11:32
mervtecku run wow in window?11:32
mervteckdamn kb11:32
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crazy_busCan the kubuntu livecd only install with ext3?  Because even though I've reinstalled kubuntu edgy 3 times since the problem started.  Files have being dissapearing off my / partion.  And then fsck tells me about deleted inodes11:37
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waylandbillcrazy_bus: I'd check the hdd for bad sectors.11:38
crazy_busI've run the knoppix livecd and run fsck -c twice after files have gone missing11:39
intelikeycrazy_bus eeek.   badblocks /dev/hda     from the liveCD11:39
crazy_busintelikey: Is that a command to type when loading the livecd?11:40
intelikeyand if it's clean.  maybe mount as ext2 see if the journal is the culpret11:40
crazy_busdo I type this in the livecd or recovery mode?        badblocks /dev/hda11:41
intelikeyno from the running live CD11:41
intelikeycrazy_bus and what does -c do on the knoppix version of fsck ?11:41
crazy_busIt searches for badblocks11:42
intelikeylive CD11:42
intelikeynot a good idea to badblocks the root fs.11:42
crazy_busSo I should load the livecd and then badblocks the rootfs?11:43
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intelikeyreally ?   hmmm wonder why that switch is not mentioned in the man page of the ubuntu version...11:43
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crazy_busit's not mentioned in the man page of the knoppix version either.  But when you type fsck (then a incorrect name) it comes up with usage details11:44
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intelikeythe hd.11:44
intelikeywell -c is covered in e2fsck   that's what it's printing the help from  not the script "fsck"  i guess.11:45
crazy_busdoes it matter which livecd I run from?11:46
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intelikeyand if you have checked it and found nothing.   i'd say skip the journal for a while and see if that's the corrupting point.11:46
intelikeycrazy_bus no not really.   but if you "and you said you have" already done that....11:47
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crazy_buscan kubuntu livecd install to journals other than ext3?  And if so what is the second best one to install? ext2,  xfs?11:47
_StefanS_crazy_bus: just keep the default ext3. Nothing better at the moment11:48
intelikeyext3 is ext2 +a journal  reiserfs might be another acceptable choice.11:48
crazy_buscan you explain it more simply? :)11:48
Steven_MI type hibernate into my console, but it says command not found11:49
_StefanS_crazy_bus: reiserfs stinks (IMHO).. can't count how many who has lost files because of the experimental state it has always been in11:49
waylandbillext3 is probably the best bet11:49
intelikey_StefanS_ i also had a problem with ext3,  dropped the journal and the problem has not recured.11:49
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crazy_bushow do you drop the journal?11:49
intelikeymount as ext211:49
_StefanS_intelikey: err.. I never anyone that had problems with ext3. What was wrong ?11:50
intelikeythat prevents the journal from being used.11:50
_StefanS_never heard11:50
intelikey_StefanS_ it rm'd some files for no reason and then wrote some code to the superblock that crashed everything.  i used the second superblock to mount and rebuilt the first superblock then set to mount as ext2 and no more issue.11:51
intelikeyi really don't know why it did it...11:51
_StefanS_neither do I :)11:52
intelikeyand yes i checked the drive.  no bad blocks11:52
_StefanS_don't mess so much with it hehe11:52
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crazy_busthe strange thing is that my /home partition never loses files while / does11:52
intelikeyhad it happen on two different drives. at near the same time.11:52
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intelikeycrazy_bus yep.11:52
crazy_bushow do you make the partition mount as ext2?11:53
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intelikeyyou set the options in the fstab11:53
_StefanS_crazy_bus: change /etc/fstab to ext2 instead of ext311:53
_StefanS_crazy_bus: listen to intelikey :)11:53
crazy_busdo you recommend I change both my / partition which is losing files and my /home which isn't over?11:54
crazy_busi.e is it better to switch the partition which hasn't being losing files over to ext2 to be safe.  Or is it better to keep it with ext3?11:57
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johnthejockehi all11:58
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crazy_bushave my helpers left? :)12:01
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ubotumozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version (edgy), package size 10504 kB, installed size 29596 kB12:04
crazy_busis it better to switch the partition which hasn't being losing files over to ext2 to be safe.  Or is it better to keep it with ext3?12:04
intelikeyheh standalone mail client   10m dl.12:04
intelikey30m installed.12:05
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org12:05
intelikeythat's stupid.12:05
waylandbillcrazy_bus: best to do a backup to removable media. ;-)12:05
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crazy_busI don't have enough removable media to backup too.12:06
chuenHi . Can someone help me out with a some location weirdness?12:06
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ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.12:06
chuenIt may be 'finger trouble', but a couple of docs I had on my desktop have somehow ended up in the .enacs directroy.12:06
intelikey^ You can read/write from Windows to ext3 ^ not totally acurate. you read/write to ext2 from windows... it doesn't touch the journal.12:07
chuenEcept .... they are there according to a file search, but not when I look in the directory.12:07
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waylandbillcrazy_bus: oh no. I'd give you a DVD-RW if I was sitting next to you. :)12:08
crazy_busintelikey: should I change the partition which has not being having problems over to ext2 to?12:08
intelikeycrazy_bus as long as you are not having any trubble. i wouldn't bother.12:09
crazy_buswaylandbill: my personal files are on a partition which hasn't had any problems.  It's just my system files that go missing :)  And I'm not sure how to back those up12:09
waylandbillcrazy_bus: remember that removing the journal could cause crashes to nuke files.12:10
waylandbillcrashes=system hang or reboot.12:10
intelikeymany people using *ubuntu on ext3 without any "known" trubble with it.  so if it's not broke, don't fix it.   if it is broke, ...12:10
crazy_busI get system hangs all the time with the binary nvidia drivers :)12:10
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waylandbillI get them occassionally with ati binary. I don't know why I even run it. :-)12:11
intelikeywaylandbill only a hard lockup while a write was in progress.  and that would hose things with or without the journal.12:11
crazy_busI need to run the binaries to play back animations in Blender12:11
waylandbillintelikey: but the journal could be replayed12:12
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intelikeythe fs will be checked if it's unclean     </shrugs>12:12
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intelikeywaylandbill i'm not trying to argue with you on that.  the idea is sound.   in practice though. i personally have had more trubble on ext3 than ext2.12:13
chuenAnyone help pls?12:14
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crazy_busThanks everyone for all your help.  I'd better reboot to the livecd and reinstall (as some system files got deleted)12:14
intelikeyon ubuntu systems.  ^12:14
waylandbillintelikey: I don't doubt ya.12:14
crazy_busnow I just have to hope that with nvidia drivers causing x to freeze quite often, files won't get broken.12:15
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vprintsdoes anybody know when can we start translating feisty in launchpad?12:16
intelikeychuen your plee seems to parallel the conversation about fs problems.  what fs is that ?12:16
intelikeythat too12:17
intelikeyflee ?12:17
intelikeythat's a bug12:17
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intelikeywhat do you expect out of a guy that only finished 6th grade.12:18
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intelikey  " as Jucato watches intelikey talk to himself again..."12:20
intelikeymem=(`cat /proc/meminfo | tr -d "[A-z]  :" | tr "\n" " " | cut -d' ' -f-4`)12:21
intelikeymemused="$((( ${mem[0] } - ${mem[1] } - ${mem[2] } - ${mem[3] } ) / 1024))"12:21
intelikeymemtotal="$(( ${mem[0] } / 1024))"12:21
intelikeymemper="$((( $memused * 100 ) / $memtotal ))"12:21
intelikeyecho "Mem usage: $memused/$memtotal MB ($memper%)"12:21
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crazy_busI'm reinstalling off the livecd.  Should I select format to ext3 then when everythings installed change the option in fstab?  Or should I format it to ext2?12:27
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waylandbillcrazy_bus: either way will work.12:29
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crazy_buswhich way do you recommend?12:29
waylandbillit's going to be ext2, so go ahead and set it to ext2 from the start.12:29
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larson9999interesting.  6th grade is what finished me.12:31
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crazy_busHmmm.  Mabey I shouldn't have formatted it to ext2.  Now it's telling me  No root filesystem.      What should I do?12:33
kb3hello every one12:33
waylandbillcrazy_bus: this the desktop cd or alterate?12:34
crazy_busdesktop cd12:34
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crazy_busany idea on what I should do waylandbill?12:36
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PupenoI am trying to print a PDF that is landscape, but KPDF doesn't let me set the paper on landscape, so, it only prints one part of it. How can I print it? (http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=14)12:36
waylandbilltry entering the mount point again.12:37
crazy_buswhat do you mean?12:37
waylandbilldidn't it ask you to specify your mount points?12:38
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crazy_busyes.  I changed the one in question to /12:39
waylandbillit's possible the backend code didn't get that right. try performing it again is what I mean12:39
crazy_busformat it again?  or change it to / again?12:40
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waylandbillchange it to / again.12:40
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waylandbillit probably formatted just fine.12:41
jeroenvrpwhat is the easiest method to change the dot (.) on my keypud/nupad to a comma (,)?!12:41
jeroenvrp keypad/numpad that is12:41
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crazy_busI wen't backwards and forwards many times and changed it to / again many times but it wouldn't work.12:41
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crazy_busI'll just format to ext3 again and change the fstab when its all installed12:41
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waylandbillcrazy_bus: good idea.12:42
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crazy_busoh dear.  I formatted to ext3 got up to the final screen.  Read the format report and decided to press back to double check what was being formatted.  Unfortunaltly that crashed the installed12:43
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waylandbillcrazy_bus: have you run a memtest on this system lately?12:44
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crazy_buswhat's a memtest for?12:45
Lynoureit tests whether the memory seems to be broken.12:45
crazy_buswhy do you think my memory is broken?12:45
waylandbillyou're having trouble on things that shouldn't be giving you trouble. I'm curious if your hardware is really the root of it.12:45
Lynourecrazy_bus: me? what?12:46
waylandbillLynoure: he meant me12:46
crazy_busqtparted is what caused the installer to crash12:46
jeroenvrpwhat is the easiest method to change the dot (.) on my keypad/numpad to a comma (,)?!12:46
eeoshi there.12:46
eeoshas anyone ever used jack server on kubuntu?12:47
crazy_buswaylandbill: what are the chances my memory is broken and how do I run memtest?12:47
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waylandbillwow. konversation dissappeared when I was typing.12:48
waylandbillcrazy_bus: memtest is one of the options installed in the grub menu.12:48
crazy_busI thought that checked the cd for defects?12:48
waylandbillIt's not a large possibility that you have memory problems.12:49
waylandbillcrazy_bus: you are thinking media check12:49
Pupenono idea how to print it? maybe with some other program?12:50
crazy_buswhat makes you think I have memory problems?12:50
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waylandbillyou're having crashes and lost files without bad hdd blocks. I could be wrong though.12:52
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crazy_busthe crashes have to do with silly binary nvidia drivers12:53
crazy_busat least they did for a few things causing crashes that I tried to debug12:53
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waylandbillmight not hurt to make sure some weekend when you're not using the system to check it anyway. my opinion fwiw.12:54
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crazy_busI'll try and check after kubuntu finishes installing12:57
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waylandbillcrazy_bus: even if it turns out that I'm wrong, you'll know that part of the hardware is functioning good. :-)12:59
chuenHi. Can someone help me out with some files that have myserioulsy ended up in a folder - but which I can't access pls?12:59
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waylandbillchuen: what sort of files showed up?12:59
chuenwaylandbill: Well, it could hev been 'finger trouble', but they were on my desktop and are now in a dir called .emacs.01:00
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chuenwaylandbill: Problem is when I try to copy them anywhere I get 'files do not exist'!01:00
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chuenThey are PDF's01:00
devin_can someone tell me if this fstab looks right? looks alil abnormal to me  http://pastebin.com/87349501:01
waylandbillhow are you trying to copy them, from within konqueror?01:01
chuenwaylandbill: Sorry that should be '.emacs.d'01:01
chuenwaylandbill: Yes.01:01
chuenwaylandbill: They show up on file serach, but when I open that dir, they are not there.01:02
waylandbillif you look at their permissions, do you have enough access to write to them?01:02
chuenwaylandbill: Yes (as owner)01:03
waylandbillwhat did you use to search for them?01:03
chuenwaylandbill: Find Files/Folders01:04
waylandbilland you are trying to copy them from in the find files/folders dialog?01:04
chuenwaylandbill: Yes.01:05
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waylandbillif you look in a konsole session, are they in that location?01:06
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chuenwayland:bill: Do you mean navigate to that directory using cmd line?01:08
chuenwaylandbill: Mmm. No they aren't. Just a folder called auto-save list.01:10
waylandbillI wonder if the find files dialog is using 'locate'.01:10
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waylandbillchuen: did you have the "use files index" selected in the find files/folders?01:11
chuenwaylandbill: No.01:12
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waylandbillinteresting. well. they are not there, so that's why you got the error when trying to copy them.01:13
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chuenwaylandbill: OK, well, I've no idea why they shoudl show up there. Fortunaetly I think I can get hold of those files from extternal sources.01:14
chuenwaylandbill: Thx for your help.01:14
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waylandbillchuen: my guess was it was using the locate database to find the files and it was outdated.01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
waylandbillnot sure since the file index box wasn't checked.01:15
chuenwaylandbill: Maybe I *did* accidentally bin them.01:15
chuenwaylandbill: Althught they are both files that I would have not done!01:15
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waylandbillchuen: well, good luck. hopefully you can fetch them again from somewhere.01:15
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ubotuFor help configuring the Citrix ICA Client, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo01:16
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chuenwaylandbill: Ah, Ok I've found them (not through serach) They *are* where I put them (I remember now) in a folder I created called 'docuents'01:16
chuenwaylandbill: But they didn't show up on the search!!01:17
waylandbillchuen.. ok.. it must be using locate. If you do 'sudo updatedb' from the command line, the database should be updated01:17
waylandbillchuen: it's usually updated from cron each day, so it can get out of date.01:18
eeoshas anyone ever used the jack sound server on kubuntu? I cannot start it properly.01:18
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waylandbillI'm not looking at KFind's code, so that's not a 100% known certainty. best guess. :-)01:19
chuenwaylandbill: I'll do that - thanks again. I've lerned something new (as I do each day regarding Linux!!)01:19
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waylandbilleeos: doesn't jack support have to be compiled into the kde sound system to use jack?01:24
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eeoswaylandbill I thought you could compile more than one server support.01:26
eeoswaylandbill and then chose. But cannot find the option on kubuntu.01:27
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waylandbilleeos: there is support for more than one (look in the advanced tab) but I don't know whether jack was one that kubuntu enabled during building01:31
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eeoswaylandbill yes, I got a look and the answer is there is not. so why package jackit in the repository, very frustrating.01:41
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waylandbilleeos: could be it was brought over from debian?01:44
eeoswaylandbill I have no idea.01:45
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eeosanyway, I have to go. Will catch up with you later! thanks for your help.01:46
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houi_hi, i want to install kubunut and selcted manual partitioning, i have a swap, a root / reiserfs and a /home reiserfs, if i click on next it says no root partition01:46
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sorush21I can't see all my features of gmail in konqeror01:48
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waylandbillsorush21: you need to change browser identification for gmail.01:51
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waylandbillsorush21: Settings, Configure Konq, Browser Id, New, mail.google.com, firefox (any version) should make it perform better.01:54
suposHow do I change the keyboard layout used by the login manager?01:55
sorush21waylandbill: thanks01:55
sorush21I wish this could be automatic01:55
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:03
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karmikazehi Jucato02:05
karmikazemy wireless connection at home has dissapeared D:02:07
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karmikazeim just hoping someone gets home after work and resets their router...02:08
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ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl02:13
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RoTfLaStChi to all02:15
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giannismy emacs runs from the terminal only and not as individual program.any solution?02:25
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stevennnanyone know of some good digital cameras in the 300-400 dollar range?02:39
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Lynourestevennn: Check the photo sites, e.g. http://www.dpreview.com/02:41
crazy_busThere sure are alot of updates to install when you reinstall kubuntu02:41
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ScarFreewillmysql-admin is freezing on my pc if i click on "User Administration"03:07
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blue|palmHey, does anybody have any experience in using the svn version of mplayer?03:10
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:17
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:17
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BluesKajhowdy all:003:21
stdinhey BluesKaj :)03:22
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blue|palmHey, can anybody tell me where to get the qt headers and lib (which package)03:23
BluesKajHi stdin ,the st ktorrent 2.03 client doesn't connect as well as the newer 2.1 vers, but I get an error message after it crashes ..to do with the Qt library03:24
Ippatsublue|palm: libqt*-headers03:24
blue|palmlppatsu: thank you, is it on the standard repo's ?03:25
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BluesKajst = standard03:25
stdin!info libqt3-headers03:25
ubotulibqt3-headers: Qt3 header files. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 350 kB, installed size 2476 kB03:25
stdinBluesKaj: hmm, that on edgy?03:25
BluesKajyes stdin03:25
[StingRay] Hi stdin, :)03:26
stdinhay [StingRay]  :)03:26
stdinBluesKaj: what is the message you get ?03:26
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BluesKajstd , I'll have to reinstall the 2.1 vers first ..so it'll be a few mins before i post it in pastebin03:27
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animimotusin konqueror it doesn't exist no more the contextual menu for ark ? I have attempt to toggle it in ark preference03:29
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blue|palmcan somebody help me here with the compilation of the svn mplayer? or should i go elsewhere?03:29
stdinblue|palm: maybe try in #mplayer and/or #mplayerdev03:30
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BluesKajstdin, oops ..it works now :)03:30
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stdinBluesKaj: heh, strange, maybe you did something to please the linux gods :P03:31
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paolo___hi. if i launch op1 && op2 && op3, is there a mechanism to rollback if op3 fails? thnks03:31
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BluesKajI was fooling with the Qt libraries last night03:32
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hattadid you get to second base?03:32
BluesKajtrying to reinstall the Qt303:32
Tm_TMeh, I just started messing with wlan.03:32
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Tm_TNew area to me.03:33
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BluesKajA simple question that has me puzzled ..when trying to launch Adept or Synaptic or even kate for that matter , it can take up to 3 tries before the paswor request box pops up ...any ideas ?03:37
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BluesKajerr password03:37
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BluesKajor is it just the lazy linux gods taking a nap :)03:38
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stdinnever happened to me, but maybe a problem with kdesud ?03:39
toxidashi all03:39
waylandbillBluesKaj: the hamsters in the box asleep on the wheel more likely. ;-)03:39
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darkserver3how are everybody??03:40
toxidasi want to isall webmin on ubuntu server but keeps asking about some perl packages and i can't find in repo's any comments?03:40
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waylandbilltoxidas: which package is it looking for?03:40
darkserver3well you can download the source and compilre03:41
stdinjust fyi, webmin isn't really supported anymore03:41
stdin(on ubuntu)03:41
toxidasand some md5 pkges03:41
waylandbillpackages or perl cpan modules?03:41
toxidaswha can use instead?03:41
ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.03:42
Jucatohm.. not very informative03:42
toxidasok thanx any alternatives to webmin?03:42
waylandbill:) right to the point tho03:42
stdinmaybe libnet-ssleay-perl and libcrypt-ssleay-perl03:42
toxidasyes those packages03:42
[StingRay] stdin, I found a small but irritating problem with wine and cyrillic kbd layout. Do you have wine on your system?03:42
toxidasi wantto configure opnldap how can i easly do dtat03:43
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darkserver3ummm, maybe you know how can i reconfig my swap partition, without reinstall03:43
toxidasany sofware to configure ldap?03:43
stdin[StingRay] : I have it atm, I was trying to use a small piece of software (unsuccessfully), but yeah I have it03:43
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ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"03:43
waylandbilltoxidas: there are webmin alternatives on the webmin page on wikipedia.03:44
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waylandbilltoxidas: just so  you know, I've not used any of them, but I've seen cPanel in action.03:44
toxidasi'll check those03:44
[StingRay] stdin, add bg -variant phonetic from keyboard layouts. Then start "LC_ALL=bg_BG.UTF-8 notepad" and try to write one of the following (,/;')03:45
[StingRay] I tested this on slack and I think it is a problem of wine...stdin03:46
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zorglu_apt-get -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install <- from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade this command create a deadlock on the  /var/lib/dpkg/lock03:46
toxidascpanel i good i think i'll tr that too03:46
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darkserver3somebody know something about what can i do??03:47
waylandbilltoxidas: it's a good program, but I have no idea on if it is easy or not to get up and running.03:47
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darkserver3ummm i have some questiojn please03:49
waylandbillif kdevelop crashes one more time, I'll punch the screen. :-O03:49
darkserver3524,152 KB means 524 mb???03:49
waylandbillpretty close03:49
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zorglu_waylandbill: i never succeed to get it working03:50
lenaud01there a way to03:50
stdin[StingRay] : I get a lot of " err:keyboard:X11DRV_ToUnicodeEx (virtKey=E9,scanCode=64,keycode=1C,state=10)" and "err:keyboard:X11DRV_ToUnicodeEx Please report: no char for keysym 06D4 (Cyrillic_te) :03:50
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waylandbillit was fine until I moved to 3.4.003:50
lenaud01there a way to shut it off for it does not ask for the cd when I try to install new packages?03:50
zorglu_waylandbill: ah ok. i tried it like 3 time and everytime it cores like every 2min. no way i put my source on this :)03:50
[StingRay] stdin, what is the actual output in notepad?03:51
waylandbillzorglu_: the new qmake support looks good. It'll probably be nice at 3.4.2. :-D03:51
stdin[StingRay] : the only thing I can type in notepad is numbers and spaces03:51
zorglu_waylandbill: ok, i will retry it then :)03:51
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animimotusin kde 3.5.6 do you have already the contextual menu for ark ? (compress, decompress...)03:52
[StingRay] stdin, did you try the LC_ALL?03:52
zorglu_waylandbill: meanwhile i use eclipse. not perfect at all for cpp but im familiar to it :)03:52
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Jucatoanimimotus: it should be there by default03:52
Ingmar^I seem to have problems with the ubuntu livecd: whenever I try to partition, or use the install on the desktop, it says "Disc not found" anyone able to help ?03:52
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stdin[StingRay] : yeah, I ran "LC_ALL=bg_BG.UTF-8 notepad"03:52
lenaud01anyone know answer for my qustion?03:52
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[StingRay] :(, stdin, very strange...all works except for these four characters for me.03:53
animimotusJucato: it should, yes, it worked, but now no. For me. And for you ?03:53
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Jucatoanimimotus: working here03:53
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animimotuskubuntu ?03:53
[StingRay] I will not bother you with this, I guess it is something with the locale, stdin.03:53
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Jucatoanimimotus: we are in #kubuntu :D03:53
zorglu_lenaud01: removede the cd from the /etc/apt/sources.list ?03:54
waylandbilldarkserver3: just under 512MB03:54
ravenSo... is there a #ubuntu ? =D03:54
Jucatoand this is a fresh install, and fresh upgrade to KDE 3.5.603:54
stdin[StingRay] : it seems to work in konversation, but not in notepad03:54
Jucatoraven: in never, neverland :)03:54
Jucatoj/k. of course there is :P03:54
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animimotusJucato: well... I don't understand why I have lost my menu :)03:54
Jucato!upgrade | zorglu_03:54
ubotuzorglu_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)03:54
Jucatozorglu_: good luck! cross your toes too :)03:55
[StingRay] stdin, try just "notepad" or "LC_ALL=bg_BG.CP1251 notepad"03:55
zorglu_Jucato: well this page is obsolete :)03:55
animimotusJucato: oh a new installation...03:55
zorglu_apt-get -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install <- from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade this command create a deadlock on the  /var/lib/dpkg/lock Jucato03:55
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michaelpohow much better is 6.10 compared to 6.06?03:55
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Jucatozorglu_: oh... better poke fdoving about that...03:55
zorglu_michaelpo: i dunno, i upgrade to avoid a fresh install when feisty is out03:56
zorglu_michaelpo: once feisty is out, upgrading from dapper will be much harder03:56
Jucatobecause it will be dapper -> edgy -> feisty03:56
michaelpodoes the feisty beta crash a lot?03:57
Jucatomichaelpo: not crash as much as some things don't work from time to time03:57
michaelpothen i should cancel my downloading....03:57
stdin[StingRay] : in notepad I just see a load of vertical bars (without LC_ALL), with "LC_ALL=bg_BG.CP1251" i got the same as before03:57
Jucatomichaelpo: well, if you want to run it, and help test it, why not :)03:58
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michaelpoim a newbie... just installed 6.06  2 weeks ago03:58
Jucatomichaelpo: what are you downloading? 6.10 or 7.04?03:58
JucatoEdgy (6.10) or Feisty (7.04)03:59
michaelpomaking slow progress... 3kb/s04:00
stdinfeisty isn't a stable release yet04:00
Jucatooh I see. I wouldn't bother with it yet unless you absolutely need or want to... or if you're testing04:00
zorglu_michaelpo: you have to be real patient :)04:00
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[StingRay] stdin, could be a lot of things then, locale or non-cyrillic font. I will troubleshoot it somehow. I have friends with other distros. I tested with slack and another wine version, so I am 99% sure it is wine as all is fine outside wine.04:01
michaelpoi just let the download process alone....04:01
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zorglu_michaelpo: this is what kind of download ? bittorrent, http ? or a apt-get ?04:01
Jucatoapt... get..??04:02
zorglu_yep like apt-get dist-upgrade :)04:02
stdin[StingRay] : when I copped the text from notepad to kate, there were other charactors, so I'm siding with you that it's a wine/notepad problem04:02
michaelpobt is throttled here.... 0.0000001 kb/s04:02
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zorglu_michaelpo: oh ok04:03
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zorglu_michaelpo: even with the encrypted connection feature ?04:03
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michaelpoi dont know about encrypted connection feature... please tell me...04:04
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zorglu_michaelpo: this is a feature of bt client to avoid the throttling of some ISP04:04
zorglu_michaelpo: azureus implement it04:04
zorglu_michaelpo: let me look for other clients04:04
stdinktorrent can do it too04:04
michaelpomaybe i just wait for 7.04 final... only 2 months to wait....04:05
zorglu_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_protocol_encryption <- michaelpo look at the client list at the end04:05
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michaelpozorglu_: thanks... reading now...04:07
ubotutwin: a Text mode WINdow environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-3 (edgy), package size 422 kB, installed size 1444 kB04:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about twonMOnitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about twinOnitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:08
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zorglu_frojnd: like ncurse kindof stuff ?04:08
frojndI wanna install 2nd monitor..04:08
frojndlike extended04:08
carsten_just do it, and tell the control center about it04:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:09
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead04:09
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zorglu_dualhead! i wasnt that far :)04:09
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LjLi made like 10 aliases for that, but it seems i just cannot make enough :P04:10
zorglu_ok i did 'reboot' at the end of the upgrade.... stressing :)04:10
carsten_zorglu_: dualhead can be where one screen is a close of the other or xinerama. xinerama is where 2 screens act as one04:10
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ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama04:10
zorglu_carsten_: ok noted04:10
zorglu_new splash... moving :)04:11
Ingmar^I seem to have problems with the ubuntu livecd: whenever I try to partition, or use the install on the desktop, it says "no device found" anyone able to help ?04:11
zorglu_oh they did the purple stuff04:13
JucatoEdgy? yep04:13
zorglu_is there a page to get it back to blue ?04:13
Jucatozorglu_: color schemes :)04:13
zorglu_i guess im not the only one doing this modif :)04:13
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zorglu_everybody told them 'no purple we want blue' but still its purple :)04:16
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darkserver3:-( i have to reinstall!!!!04:18
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darkserver3no other option, i need to the reconfig swap... and why??? why this happen to me???04:18
darkserver3freek bmc portal... has all the fault...04:19
darkserver3that software find more swap than my phisicall memory and say's for works need to be the same04:20
darkserver3:-( this is so sad...04:20
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letmagnauthere is anyone that have installed compiz on Kubuntu feisty fown?04:27
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zorglu_hmnn uncool, the gcc of edgy doesnt like my code04:28
stevennnanyone know when the new gimp is ocming out?04:28
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the_hammer!NetGear WG511 help04:32
the_hammer<ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) lol04:32
the_hammerso much for that04:33
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nagyv! 3d04:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:38
nagyv! ati04:38
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:38
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rysiek|plaloha oe04:40
rysiek|plhi all04:40
nagyvhello! I would like to know the fps of my video card, but don't know the command. Could someone help me?04:40
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mambo_hi, does any  body how to enable my wireless access in my laptop (using kubuntu)??04:40
nagyvmambo_: use the wireless assistant program04:41
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:41
Jucatonagyv: "glxgears -printfps" I think04:41
nagyvyes, now that I see, I already remember :) thx04:41
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nagyvany ideas what this means: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b04:42
tuxligohola alguien aqui habla espaol?04:42
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:42
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sorush21how do I keep a remote ftp folder and local one in sync?04:43
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sorush21using kftp04:43
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SeanTatersorush21: try krusader04:47
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SeanTatersorush21: all kde application can use the ftp:// protocol, and in krusader there is a "Synchronize Directories" feature04:48
SeanTatersorush21: yw04:49
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SeanTatersorush21: sftp + rsync will probably be easier in the long run, if you have the ability to install them on both imvolved machines..04:50
SeanTater /involved/04:50
sorush21SeanTater: I don't think I would like to have both direction sync04:50
frojndI have 2.6.17-10-generic04:51
frojndcan I install nvida drivers04:51
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frojndso X will work04:51
frojndor becouse it's generec it wont ? :s04:51
frojndFind the appropriate module for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8. Selecting one will also install nvidia-kernel-common. (Note: you have to select the restricted modules first because the nvidia-glx package automatically installs the i386 one - and if you have a generic kernel image, the X will not work.)04:51
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Jucatofrojnd: linux-restricted-modules-generic04:53
Jucatoif that's your kernel04:53
Jucato<frojnd> I have 2.6.17-10-generic <-- you said so04:53
frojndLinux umbrella 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux04:53
frojndthis is04:53
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frojndja ok04:54
frojndI said that04:54
Jucatothat's why I said linux-restricted-modules-generic04:54
Jucatoinstall the linux-restricted-modules that matches your kernel04:54
frojndlinux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic - Non-free Linux 2.6.17 modules on x86_64 generic04:54
frojndbut I allready have installed this04:55
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Jucatofrojnd: make absolutely sure, because the nvidia-glx driver won't work if you don't have it installed or it doesn't match your kernel04:55
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Jucatofrojnd: if you're absolutely sure, install "nvidia-glx", then run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"04:56
BluesKajflash has a new stable offering for mozilla & FF browsers: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash04:56
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BluesKajit works too, Jucato ;)04:57
Jucato!pl | kasia04:57
ubotukasia: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl04:57
JucatoBluesKaj: but what is it?04:57
BluesKajthe player plugin04:58
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash04:58
Jucatothat one?04:58
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BluesKajFlash 9,0,31,004:58
frojndJucato: obviously modul was installed vie upgrade or dist-upgrade04:58
Jucato!flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports04:58
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)04:58
Jucatoer not that04:58
Jucato!flashplugin-nonfree dapper-backports04:59
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31~ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 13 kB, installed size 100 kB (Only available for i386)04:59
JucatoBluesKaj: yes. that's Flash 904:59
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Jucatoit's in the repositories04:59
BluesKajI installed the tar.gz04:59
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BluesKajit replaces the previous beta flash904:59
LjLlook at creox and ecamegapedal too05:00
Jucatothe beta flash is long gone05:00
JucatoBluesKaj: the one in the -backports repo has been the final release 9,0,31,0 for a few weeks now05:00
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BluesKajok, I just received a linux email alert from Zdnet about it ...wasn't aware that the backports ahd it available ..Flash made it sound like it was "officially released" today05:02
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cefxFor kubuntu, where do I change the current X session's resolution / frequency settings? e.g. I'd like to increase my resolution and maybe raise the frequency to 75-80Hz.05:05
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lenaud01checking for gcc... gcc05:08
lenaud01checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables05:08
lenaud01can anyone help?05:08
Jucatolenaud01: you have build-essential installed?05:08
LjLUbotu, tell lenaud01 about build-essential | lenaud01, see the private message from Ubotu05:08
cefxLjL: hook me up with a message form Ubotu!05:08
LjLsure :P05:08
LjLUbotu, tell cefx about fixres | cefx, see the private message from Ubotu05:08
LjLcefx: but the short answer is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg". the resolution in KDE can be changed with System Settings / Monitors and Displays (or whatever it's called), but it's quite likely that you won't yet have the resolution you want there05:09
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ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh 05:09
Jucatobah not that one...05:10
hammer2how do i mount a floppy?05:10
LjLhammer2: sudo mount /media/floppy05:10
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LjLJucato: why not?05:10
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LjLbetter than !fixres unless one has further troubles05:10
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LjL!xconfig is <sed> /$/ - See also !FixRes/05:11
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL05:11
JucatoI think -phigh doesn't let you choose the frequency...05:11
hammer2hammer@lappy:~$ sudo mount /media/floppy05:11
hammer2mount: /dev/ is not a block device05:11
cefxum, that's for ubuntu/gnome?05:11
LjLhammer2: hm, try  sudo mount /media/floppy0 05:12
cefxaah, and i'm running enlightenment05:12
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LjLcefx: the dpkg-reconfigure command is quite universal05:12
hammer2same error05:12
LjLJucato: that could be05:12
hammer2i need my floppy bad heh05:13
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hammer2its in there and when i goto media and click floppy its just a stupid folder05:13
LjLhammer2: is there a "/dev/fd0" file?05:13
ScarFreewillI can't create links form /var :(05:13
hammer2how do i find out05:13
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LjLhammer2:  ls /dev/fd0 05:14
hammer2hammer@lappy:~$ ls /dev/fdo05:14
hammer2ls: /dev/fdo: No such file or directory05:14
LjLfd0 not fdo05:14
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hammer2ok yup05:15
LjLhammer2: then try  sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 05:15
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ScarFreewillln: `/home/sf/work/www': hard link not allowed for directory05:15
LjLright, you can't hardlink directories05:16
LjLcan't you try a symlink?05:16
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ScarFreewillno how?05:16
LjLln -s05:16
hammer2its loaded but i cant see the contents05:16
hammer2i wanna copy paste files to Desktop05:16
LjLhammer2: that's because it's mounted for root access only, i guess. type "groups", do you see "floppy"?05:16
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hammer2hammer@lappy:~$ groups05:17
hammer2hammer adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin05:17
ScarFreewillLjL: thx its workin05:17
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LjLhammer2: ok. edit fstab as root, with  kdesu kate /etc/fstab 05:17
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LjLhammer2: one line (probably the last) will say  /dev/    /media/floppy0 05:18
LjLhammer2: thange the /dev/ to  /dev/fd0 05:18
hammer2root@lappy:/home/hammer# kdesu kate /etc/fstab05:18
hammer2Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server05:18
hammer2Xlib: No protocol specified05:18
hammer2kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.005:19
LjLhammer2: not as root.05:19
LjLhammer2: be a normal user.05:19
LjLyou don't need to be logged in as root for anything05:19
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LjLthe "kdesu" will take care of that, with the added bonus that you won't get that error05:19
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:19
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hammer2ok i got it open05:20
LjLhammer2: thange the /dev/ to  /dev/fd0  in the line that mentions /media/floppy005:21
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hammer2/dev/fd0          /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       005:22
hammer2LIKE THAT?05:22
Little_EagleRE: sudo vs. root,  can kdesu konquerer to see files that user can't see, but click to edit and get the same error with X.05:22
maniacxshi channel, I am using kubuntu (edgy) and i was searching for kde socks support. but in systemsettings -> networking -> proxy i  do not have a option socks. is there a additional package needed?05:22
LjLhammer2: yes05:22
LjLhammer2: now save and exit kate05:22
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LjLhammer2: then type  sudo umount /media/floppy0 , then see if you can access the floppy by the icon. if not, type  sudo mount /media/floppy0 05:23
Alumindoes anybody know what the difference is between Dapper and Edgy/Feisty that makes Lightscribe work only in Dapper?05:23
gabaryahafter installing win32codecs i'm still unable to view divx movie05:23
hammer2its workin now without that05:23
AluminI'm guessing something about the kernel?05:23
gabaryahcan someone help me05:23
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hammer2ty so much05:23
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Alumingabaryah: what happens when you try?05:24
Little_Eaglegabaryah: http://www.getautomatix.com05:24
gabaryahdoesn't play05:24
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe05:24
maniacxsAlumin: what software are you using to lightscribe the media?05:24
maniacxsAlumin: are there any errors?05:24
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Aluminmaniacxs: well, I haven't tried yet, I don't have a Lightscribe device05:24
AluminI've just been reading about it on the Internets05:25
gabaryahis there a way to install beryl05:25
gabaryahi followed several ubuntu guides05:25
Aluminbut as soon as I saw the LightScribe client for Linux, I decided to go buy one05:25
LjLsee the #ubuntu-xgl topic gabaryah05:25
gabaryahbut once i logg out i don't see XGL but a blank instead05:25
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.05:25
Aluminhowever, I'm running Edgy...so before I spend the money I'd like to figure out what I need to do to get it to work05:25
Riddellhi eeos05:26
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Aluminthe only "workaround" I've seen thus far is someone who set up an entire Dapper chroot to run it in...I don't think I'm really that into the idea :)05:26
eeosRiddell hi!05:26
Theoryhrm, that suggests it is a userspace issue05:26
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maniacxsAlumin: i was able to succesfully lightscribe with dapper and gentoo. i used the lightscribe software from lightscribe org. i had permission problems with this software. There is in the sdk a example c program this waork how it should05:27
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maniacxsAlumin: this was on gentoo05:27
Aluminmaniacxs: yeah, everyone's reporting success with dapper05:27
Aluminbut they say it doesn't work in Edgy or Feisty05:27
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Theorymy machine with lightscribe is away at the menders so I can't really play05:27
maniacxsAlumin: do you have some reports on edgy or feisty with detailed errors?05:29
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hammer2i forget the next line05:30
hammer2hammer@lappy:~/Desktop/NETGEAR$ sudo ndiswrapper -i netwg511.inf05:30
hammer2Installing netwg51105:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:30
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Dr_willislooks like it installed to me.. :)05:31
hammer2theres a -m command05:31
hammer2i forget05:31
digitalfreedomok the issue today is beryl window manager giving me problems installing..whats the command to paste a long message? paste board or something so ppl can see it05:32
hammer2think it be ndiswrapper -m something?05:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:32
digitalfreedomthanx been some time since i been on here05:32
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:32
zorglu_q. i would like to remove the purple stuff from edgy and get it back to a blue, is there a page for this ?05:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about blue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
Dr_willispurple stuff?05:33
zorglu_Dr_willis: yep all the color went purple after upgrading to edgy. i would like to get it back to blue. i guess there is a bunch of theme to update etc...05:33
digitalfreedomok here it is..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3836/05:33
digitalfreedomso anyadvice would be helpfull05:33
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Dr_willisselect some different themes  then - i guess.  i never noticed any Purple.05:34
digitalfreedomoh i get that after i do sudo apt-get install beryl05:34
digitalfreedomi updated repos list as well05:34
Dr_willisTheres a lot of themes not installed by default lso you may want to check out.05:34
zorglu_Dr_willis: well you should install edgy then :)05:34
Dr_willisI am running Edgy Eft Kubuntu edition right now.05:34
zorglu_Dr_willis: oh, so it is just a color naming issue :)05:34
Dr_willisBut since i kept my /home partition - it may be using my old settings..05:34
Dr_willislet me try another user.05:35
Aluminmaniacxs: hold on a sec, I'll backtrack some of the searches and see what I can find05:35
zorglu_Dr_willis: during the whole edgy building, it was called the 'purple theme'05:35
zorglu_the press and all talked about it :)05:35
zorglu_ok beside that, is there a page documenting how to change all the theme ?05:36
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy05:36
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zorglu_seems to be the one :)05:36
nagyvI can not get eject my cd. Even before Konqueror was able to browse it only very slowly, so I thought to take it out, but can't. AFAIK nothing else is using it. How could I get it?05:36
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hammer2im lost on that forum05:37
hammer2i only need 1 command right now05:37
nagyvsorry, I was wrong. I have started kaffeine 5 minutes ago to play a movie from the cd, and it started only now.05:37
hammer2cant finmd it05:37
hammer2i knopw its -m05:37
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hammer2ndisdriver -m netwg511.inf05:38
hammer2bash: ndisdriver: command not found05:38
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waylandbillinstall ndisdriver first05:38
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hammer2its installed05:38
hammer2i did 1st step already to05:39
Dr_willisjust use the control panel stuff anc pick a different theme..05:39
hammer2ndisdriver -i file.inf05:39
waylandbilloh.. the -i?05:39
hammer2ya but i cant recall whats next05:39
digitalfreedomany help with beryl?05:39
waylandbillhammer2: -l to list?05:39
hammer2modprobe nt workdisdriver -m file.inf doesn05:39
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl05:39
digitalfreedomi know what it is im having problems getting installed05:40
hammer2i get command not found -l05:40
waylandbilldigitalfreedom: that's not suprising. the state of packages lately has been breaking stuff.05:40
digitalfreedomi did a pastebin on it05:40
hammer2then help says this -l                List installed drivers05:41
digitalfreedomwhen i do sudo apt-get install beryl i get broken packages05:41
hammer2go figure05:41
digitalfreedomor something like that05:41
waylandbillhammer2: oh... sorry I misread. ndisdriver isn't ndiswrapper.05:41
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digitalfreedomsee my friend got visat (boooooooo) and so he is all on aboput this 3d winow crap so i weanna show him up05:41
hammer2ohhh thats what i did wrong05:42
hammer2i need wrapper05:42
zorglu_Dr_willis: the new name for 'theme' is 'color scheme' ? or this 'color scheme' is something else05:42
waylandbillbut beryl isn't done.05:42
digitalfreedomyeah it is...my other luinux pal uses it all the time05:42
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digitalfreedomif i could type today id be OK05:42
zorglu_Dr_willis: i failed to find anything named 'theme' in the 'system setting'05:42
adaranhey everyone. i have two displays in clone mode (using fglrx), how can i display something (like mplayer) fullscreen on the smaller display?05:42
hammer2Installed drivers:05:42
hammer2netwg511                driver installed, hardware present05:42
waylandbilldigitalfreedom: umm.. alpha is not done.05:42
hammer2ok so then ndiswrapper -m file.inf right?05:43
digitalfreedomalpha dshew this is giving me a headache05:43
Dr_williszorglu_,  i alweays add the 'settings' panel applet - to the panel. its right there int he menus there.. i dont even go to the other settings areas.05:43
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hammer2dam it didnt work05:43
waylandbilldigitalfreedom: ok. plain and simple. there are broken packages. other than that, you're on your own.05:43
cefxLjL: I'm actually looking at my xorg.conf, and I see for Depth 24 it has a bunch of resolutions listed.05:43
cefxDoes that change your reccomendation at all...?05:44
zorglu_Dr_willis: ok will look then :)05:44
waylandbillyou want to show your friend up tell him you didn't spend $300 on an O.S. ;-)05:44
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cefxe.g. -- it has 1600x1200 to 800x600 under the modes subsection of Depth 24.05:44
Dr_williszorglu_,  or run kcontrol - There is some work being done on reorganizing the settings/controlpanel tools/layouts - I just use the 'old' way. :)05:44
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LjLcefx: which resolution is the one you *want*?05:45
Dr_willisi do thinkl that 'settings' icon should be in the panel by default :)05:45
LjLcefx: my advice is to only leave *that* resolution, and lower ones, but not higher ones05:45
waylandbillhammer2: the driver installed. are you sure it's the right driver and is functional?05:45
hammer2im missing the -m command tho and its driving me nuts05:45
waylandbillit's in the man page.05:46
hammer2this page here is useless doesnt have a walk through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG511andNdiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%2905:47
waylandbillhammer2: what version ndiswrapper?05:48
waylandbillWARNING: This card does not seem to work ndiswrapper 1.16 and above05:48
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hammer2no idea05:49
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hammer2i used syn to install05:49
waylandbillhow did you install it?05:49
hammer2apt manager05:49
hammer2syn w/e05:49
hammer2synapic w/e05:49
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hammer2i have the ver 1 card05:50
hammer2most ppl have trouble with v3 card05:50
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ForgeAusare there any plans to add FFS or SFS support to parted/gparted/qtparted?05:50
waylandbillhammer2: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ndiswrapper-*05:50
ForgeAus(as in detect/read... I don't expect grow shrink move, etc...05:51
LjLcefx: as far as refresh rates are concerned - if that is a problem - you need to look at the Monitor section, where there's the horizontal and vertical sync rates05:51
LjLcefx: you can either get them from your monitor's manual, or use dpkg-reconfigure, which can give you a sort of user friendly way to "guess" them right05:52
cefxfinding my monitor's manual is a bitch05:52
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cefxI googled and couldn't find it05:52
cefxarchaic hardware ftl :/05:52
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cefxbut thanks LjL :)05:52
scoatesit takes a really long time for my laptop to resume from ACPI S3 (suspend to ram). Can someone suggest where I should look to figure out why?05:53
LjLcefx: then nevermind it, just select the "medium" or "intermediate" or what-it's-called option in dpkg-reconfigure, and there select your desired resolution at 75Hz (or the Hz you like)05:53
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waylandbillhammer2: looks like you have 1.18. you need to put in 1.15 at the latest.05:54
LjLcefx: keep in mind that you always need to restart X for these kinds of modifications to take effect05:54
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waylandbillhammer2: (assuming that page is correct of course)05:54
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hammer2also doesnt tell u the card ver05:55
hammer2wich would help alot05:55
cefxLjL: yeah05:55
hammer2as theres 3 ver of it and all have different ways to install05:55
cefxI may leave it as it is...these machines technically aren't mine :/05:55
waylandbillndiswrapper is pretty straightforward.05:56
hammer2its working im just forgetting a command05:56
hammer2shows it loaded the driver05:57
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hammer2-m                Write configuration for modprobe05:58
hammer2 is where im stuck on05:58
waylandbillbut I've put in a driver and had ndiswrapper succeed to find out the driver didn't work (the one supplied by compaq for my laptop) .. I had to get a different driver before it worked.05:58
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hammer2i ahve the correct drivers05:58
waylandbillwhat do you get when you do the -m?05:58
hammer2my old prob was i needed a more updated kern05:58
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hammer2i get this06:00
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waylandbilldrop the inf name06:01
waylandbilljust the -m and nothing after06:01
hammer2after ndiswrapper i need to get softmac and hardmac or somehting and place into lib/firmware and also have to rename something but have a long way to go before i get there06:01
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Sirgadohi again, I lost connection06:02
waylandbillthe -m doesn't take an argument the man page says06:02
hammer2same thing06:02
hammer2i know im a hair away from getting it06:02
hammer2ive done all this i just forget parts of it06:03
hammer2as i said i was having a kern issue06:03
hammer2kern was to old06:03
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hammer2now im updated but be damed if i can remember all the stpes agan06:03
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waylandbilllast time I did it, I -e to remove, -i myinf.inf to install and then -l to list.06:04
waylandbillmaybe you need to run modprobe -a drivername06:05
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waylandbilllike I think I did modprobe -a bcm43xx when I did mine and then it was running.06:06
hammer2hammer@lappy:~/Desktop/NETGEAR$ modprobe -a netwg51106:06
hammer2WARNING: Module netwg511 not found.06:06
ladykeidenhi all. today my hard drive died. gotta reinstall at least a minimal system to get bact to work. i am getting a new laptop monday but got work to do this weekend that cant wait. can i safely move my hard drive to the new laptop and expect it to boot properly is i don't install any drivers other that for my wifi, knowing i will need to fix my wifi on the new laptop?06:07
hammer2ndiswrapper -i netwg511.inf shows installed after06:07
hammer2its the next thing i dunno what to do06:07
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waylandbillwhat does the -l show the driver name to be? it isnt' necessarily the name of the inf file06:08
andriijasany ideas on why the last line of a channel in irssi is displayed in other channels when i switch using konsole?06:08
hammer2ok think i might get it06:08
hammer2depmod -a06:08
cefxAnyone know how to lock enlightenment sessions?06:09
hammer2FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.20-rc6-686/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied06:09
hammer2oh duhhh sudo06:09
cefxor is fluxbox / blackbox a better option?06:09
hammer2hammer@lappy:~/Desktop/NETGEAR$ sudo depmod -a netwg511.inf06:11
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jhutchinshammer2: Depmod usually doesn't have any output iirc, it builds index files.06:11
vbgunzwould anybody know why, my window theme manager doesn't work? I cannot change any properties of any window title bar... I cannot change the theme, the colors or anything :(06:12
vbgunzanyone know how to fix this?06:12
hammer2ok but im back to the same prob on the -m thing06:12
jhutchinshammer2: Are you sure that an .inf file is the correct kernel module?06:12
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hammer2works in windows i copied the files onto floppy06:13
jhutchinsOk, I see now that you're using ndiswrapper.06:13
jhutchinsAll I know about ndiswrapper is that it's evil.  Sorry.06:13
hammer2i know my card wirks with prism54 and my driver to06:13
hammer2having a b*tch of a time trying to remember what to do tho06:14
hammer2i did this already ndiswrapper -i netwg511.inf06:14
hammer2it worked06:14
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hammer2im lost on 2nd step tho06:14
hammer2dunno what to do06:14
hammer2i know its something -m i remember doing that06:15
hammer2just idunno whats before after -m line06:15
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hammer2im goin in circles06:15
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ladykeidenhammer: i have a compaq presario m2000 with a broadcom wifi...have to go thru the same ndiswrapper tricks to get it to work. maybe lookup the tread for my lappy on the forum and adjust to your card?06:17
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makuseruhello, when i try to start a program it wont run, and if i try to launch it from a terminal i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3806/ can someone please help me figure out got to get it to run06:17
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goodthingmakuseru: not that i can help you with that, but there is a working alternative called recordmydesktop, which does ogg theora too.06:21
makuseruthanks, im just trying to get a recorder to work06:21
ladykeidenhelp...how hard is it to move a hard drive from one puter to another, assuming there are only the kernel detected drivers and moduls installed? I know that in windows anthing, it is easier to fresh install than to clean up after windows has puked all over itslf..06:22
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makuseruladykeiden: i reccently moved my HD into a completly new computer, the only thing that was the same was my processor and after it detected drivers which it did pretty quick it was fine06:23
makuseruladykeiden: no problems at all doing it06:23
ladykeidensweet makuseru... can anyone else comment on moving a hard drive to a new puter?06:24
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Chousuketake it out, plug it in, go.06:25
archanoidladykeiden: I've done something similar (ghosting one linux image onto multiple machines)  Only thing I've ever had to adjust is the MAC address for ethernet NICs06:25
archanoideverything else "just works" for me06:25
waylandbillhammer2: didn't get any closer?06:26
makuseruthats linux, it "just works"06:26
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waylandbillc'mon.. I loved searching through 50 driver cd's with windows. :-)06:26
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ladykeidenthats what i figured, but didn't wana waste a bunch of time in the move if I was wrong. Oh, btw...I am one who was driven to Linux by Vista.06:27
hammer2and the forever non stop rebooting when ya install and or update06:27
hammer2gotta love windblows06:27
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makuseruladykeen: have you heard of Beryl?06:27
Little_Eagleif you remember which stack of CD's the one you're looking is in...06:27
makuseruladykeiden: have you heard of Beryl?06:28
ladykeideni have makuseru, but havent looked too deep06:28
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl06:28
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hammer2i had a video when they 1st came out with windows 98 and it was on t.v and they showed it and they did something and windows 98 got their screen of death lol06:28
makuseruladykeiden: it makes vistas eyecandy look like windows 3.106:28
Little_EagleWhy doesn't bot say that it's not stable and can crash your system?06:28
waylandbillladykeiden: don't worry. the ubuntu packages are broken ATM.06:28
hammer2national t.v and that happened hahaha i never laughed so friggen hard06:28
makuseruladykeiden: theres deffinattly NOTHING that compares to it06:28
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zorglu_ladykeiden: about moving the disk, the issue come from the fact the disk has been installed on a given box, and moving to the next box may have configuration issue06:29
ladykeidenwhere should i go to find out it the ATI 200M is better than the Intel 950 (intergated graphics processors)06:29
makuseruhow big is the ATI? and how old06:29
zorglu_ladykeiden: so you may need to reconfigure some stuff. the amount of reconfig depends on the difference between the boxes06:29
waylandbill200M or 200 express?06:30
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makuseruATI's are always a pain to deal with06:30
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ladykeidenwell...the sticker says radion xpress 200m06:30
waylandbillok. I have the express. It does direct rendering well.06:30
hammer2at least i got this far hammer@lappy:~/Desktop/NETGEAR$ ndiswrapper -l06:30
hammer2Installed drivers:06:30
hammer2netwg511                driver installed, hardware present06:30
makuseruhow big is it06:30
makuserupaste |hammer206:30
makuseru!paste |hammer206:30
ubotuhammer2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:30
hammer2sorry didnt think it would be that big06:31
waylandbillI've played neverwinter nights with it. acceptable performance for a laptop.06:31
drkmhow come I upload a file from console (e.g. using ftp) to my website but see the progress of it as FTP doesn't seem to show it ?06:31
archanoiddrkm: do you mean "how *can* I..." ?06:32
waylandbillladykeiden: the proprietary driver flakes out sometimes when trying to shutdown though06:32
zorglu_youhou my apps compiles on edgy too :)06:32
ladykeidenzorglu: one is ATI chipset and Sempron CPU, the other is Intel chipset and Celeron D cpu...06:33
zorglu_ladykeiden: the graphic driver is likely to be reconfigured06:33
waylandbillyeah.. I have the sempron. It's not bad for a $500 laptop.06:33
zorglu_if both cpu are comptible with 386intel you are ok06:33
zorglu_i never heard about sempron, what is it ?06:34
ladykeidencan I start with a generic svga driver, then setup the drivers on the new lappy ?06:34
drkmarchanoid: yes how can I06:34
waylandbillathlon 64 with 64 bit removed.06:34
drkmhow *can* I upload a file from console (e.g. using ftp) to my website but see the progress of it as FTP doesn't seem to show it ?06:34
zorglu_!ftp | drkm06:34
ladykeideni like the sempron a lot, but the new lappy has Such a nice display!06:35
ubotudrkm: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd06:35
waylandbillladykeiden: the ati should install the ati standard driver out of the box.06:35
archanoiddrkm: if you use wget, curl, ncftp, or many different useful ftp clients, you can get progress indicators.06:35
zorglu_drkm: not good link06:35
zorglu_drkm: ncftp or lftp will do it06:35
hattalftp is very nice06:35
zorglu_yep i will advice for lftp too06:35
waylandbillwget doesn't upload btw. :-D06:35
tdnMy sound is not working. I have tried all combinations of the output plugs. I have tried different speakers/headphones. But there is no sound. What can be wrong? This is my sound card: 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)06:35
hattashell like syntax with job control, robust against disconnects06:35
ladykeidenwaylandbill: it does, but i'm betting that the 950 gpu on the new lappy will puke at the ati driver.06:35
drkmzorglu_: thanks06:36
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archanoidwaylandbill: okay, didn't know that about wget.  cURL does and is teh bomb.06:36
makuseruhello, when i try to start a program it wont run, and if i try to launch it from a terminal i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3806/ can someone please help me figure out got to get it to run06:36
waylandbillladykeiden: HA.. it would.. but I'm sure there's an intel one, or vesa at worst.06:36
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archanoidcURL is at http://curl.haxx.se/06:37
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makuseruladykeiden: if your looking for nvidia drivers you need fglrx06:37
waylandbillladykeiden: anytime I had an integrated intel gpu, I ended up putting in another card.. good thing it was only desktops.06:37
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hammer2why does some d/l wanna open with kate but the files are not kate files?06:37
ladykeidenwaylandbill: forgot about vesa. that'll work so i get my cozy gui to work in06:37
hammer2i need this here06:38
waylandbillmakuseru: fglrx is ati, not nvidia06:38
Little_Eaglekate is text editor....06:38
hammer2and stupid kate opens06:38
hammer2exactly the file i want isnt a txt file06:38
waylandbillright click and save the file06:38
makuserui ment ATI not nvidia06:38
hammer2its an arm file06:38
archanoidhammer2: I'm guessing it's because kate is default handler for files w/o a set MIME type handler06:38
ladykeideni got the proprietary drivers in last night and WoW is it awesome! google earth flys!06:38
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waylandbillmakuseru: I guess that happens. :-)06:38
archanoidhammer2: stress *guessing*06:38
makuserui wish i had gotten an nvidia rather than my ati06:39
hammer2how would i fix this?06:39
hammer2its done it to even a zip file earlyer06:39
zorglu_wow upgrading to edgy made reduced the latency of my apps by 3 :)06:40
makuseruhello, when i try to start a program it wont run, and if i try to launch it from a terminal i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3806/ can someone please help me figure out got to get it to run06:40
hattazorglu_, 3 what?06:40
stdinmakuseru: looks like you need gconf06:40
zorglu_hatta: reduced by 3. a factor 3. before it was 3ms average, now it is 1ms :)06:40
ubotugconf: GNOME configuration database system. (daemon and tools). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.9-7.1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 1484 kB06:40
zorglu_hatta: likely a kernel latency somewhere06:41
makuserustdin: i have it06:41
hattahow do you measure it?06:41
archanoidhammer2: using konquerer, check out configuration settings "File Associations"06:41
waylandbillmakuseru: you're missing the gconf python binding06:41
zorglu_hatta: well you ping :)06:41
zorglu_hmmm do i upgrade my main box too  ?:)06:41
ubotupython-gconf: Python bindings for GConf2. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 66 kB, installed size 236 kB06:42
zorglu_damn i feel lucky :)06:42
stdinmakuseru: ^^06:42
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makuseruoh ok, ill get that and try06:42
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waylandbillstdin: I knew what he needed, just not the exact name. :-)06:44
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ricky_dsHi folks06:44
stdinwaylandbill: heh, I just did "apt-cache search gconf|grep python" :)06:44
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waylandbillyeah.. if I wasn't starting to burn a dvd, I would've done something like that. hehe06:45
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ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)06:45
hnsnjag gillar korv06:45
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se06:46
ricky_dsWhen I connect my camera via USB to the computer, a window opens asking me what I want to do with it (open folder in new window etc...) what program is behind that and how can I link in my own script (which would download the photos in a given directory automatically)?06:46
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GrubasekI have a problem with kubuntu06:47
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stdinask away06:48
Little_Eaglemost likely comp sees camera just like usb stick.  If you hooked it it would do it for any usb drive....06:48
ricky_dsLittle_Eagle: that would be fine06:48
ricky_dsI just want to try it and see if my mom can handle that :) right now I always have to download the photos for her...06:49
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ricky_dsLittle_Eagle: thanks for the tip06:50
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zorglu_yooooo upgrading main box06:51
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waylandbillricky_ds: it all begins with hald. It sends the notification that removable media arrived. not sure which ioslave it notifies off hand.06:52
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jhutchinsricky_ds: It's not real easy to customize right now, any action you define for the camera (ie. open digikam) will probably become the default for /dev/sda, or any USB storage device.  I'd say make "Open Folder in New Window" would be the best choice.06:54
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository06:54
jhutchinsSupposedly you can customize it by USB device id, but that's not easy and hasn't worked for me.06:54
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zorglu_java6 is available on edgy no ?06:54
zorglu_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java <- this page is old enougth, not to include edgy :)06:55
waylandbillricky_ds: In kcontrol, peripherals, storage media you'll find the definitions for the mime types that menu displays anyway.06:55
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ricky_dswaylandbill: looks like this is the right path... thanx06:56
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waylandbillno prob06:56
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hammer2some reason its saved as a binary file06:57
flaviahi, if I have 2.6.17-10-generic for the binary invidia drivers I have to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic, is that right? last time I tried I had no xserver at all06:57
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DaSkreechhi hammer206:58
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hammer2fighting with my netcard06:58
jhutchinszorglu_: Little bit of brain required here.06:58
stdinflavia: yeah, you need the restricted modules package06:58
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hammer2http://prism54.org/fullmac.html i need this here06:59
archangel_"unable to locate RSDP" I get that on a very old pc with a live cd in it.06:59
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hammer2but it saves as a strange binary06:59
distro-testerhello all06:59
jhutchinszorglu_: 1) If it's available for dapper, why would it not be available for edgy?  You can install dapper packages on edgy.06:59
archangel_what does that mean?06:59
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jhutchinszorglu_:  2) Nothing in that procedure is likely to have changed between Dapper and Edgy.06:59
jhutchinszorglu_: Why not just try it?06:59
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stamenhow to use emerald theme manaegr07:00
stamenin kubuntu07:00
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DaSkreechstamen: Ask in #ubuntu-xgl07:00
stdinhammer2: huh, the firmware ?07:00
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stamenis it working only in XGL07:00
stamenor can work in normal X session07:00
stdinstamen: depends on your hardware07:01
archangel_still booting..... surpisingly enough07:01
oneeyeneed to know how to play dvds07:01
waylandbillarchangel_: disable ACPI07:01
stdin!dvd | oneeye07:01
ubotuoneeye: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:01
waylandbillarchangel_: Root System Description Pointer (ACPI)07:01
archangel_pentium 166   lol07:01
waylandbillof course, that may be telling you it already did. :-)07:02
archangel_loading into x now07:02
stamenstdin: what you mena07:03
archangel_I cant believe its doing it, cause it wont run mepis at all07:03
archangel_its smaller than ubuntu07:03
stamenstdin: it is compatible for that07:03
waylandbillprobably a kernel difference07:03
oneeyewhen i tried to open the link it said this Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system.07:03
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stdinstamen: if you have an intel chip or a nvidia card (with the latest driver) you don't need xgl, but if you have an ATI card or nvidia (with the older driver) you need XGL07:04
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archangel_what would you reccomend for a 'feather light' install for a system like this (penium 166)? I'm going to give it to a needy family with nothing.07:05
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archangel_ahh, ok07:06
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waylandbilllighterweight desktop since it's an older system07:06
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archangel_at the site right now, think I'll try it out07:08
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intelikeyi need to connect kcontrol call by root to the running xsession   kcontrol --display :0   fails with   kcontrol: cannot connect to X server :007:13
intelikeyDCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-5710' to 'kcontrol'07:13
intelikeyany sujestions ?07:13
digitalfreedomin adept when i click to install something or mark it for instalation i have BREAK (install) in red letters whats that all about?07:13
tdnI have just installed Kubuntu 6.10. Now I would like multimedia codecs to work. I have installed w32codecs from a deb-package frmo debian-multimedia.org. And I have installed the vlc-package. But now Kaffeine cannot play videos right. Videolan can play some videos though. Also I would like to be able to hear net radio (streaming media). Can you help me with this? I have tried following the documentation I have been able to dig up via Google.07:13
stdinthe user running the Xsession needs to run "xhost +LOCAL:"07:13
stdinintelikey: ^07:13
oneeyewhat is the best dvd player for linex07:14
stdintdn: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats07:14
Theorykaffeine is nice07:14
digitalfreedomdidnt knwo there was a linex dvd player07:14
Theorya bunch of people like vlc07:14
tdnstdin, I have already tried that.07:14
tdnoneeye, I use Kaffeine and mplayer.07:15
intelikeystdin k07:15
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oneeyekan you help me install that to see if it works because someone helped me install vlc and it does not work07:16
intelikeystdin LOCAL == bad host name07:16
intelikeylocalhost ?07:16
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stdinintelikey: add the ':' to the end07:17
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stdinoneeye: why didn't you install vnc from the repository ?07:18
zorglu_q. the package mirror site for france is 'fr.archive.ubuntu.com', correct ?07:18
waylandbilllinex is a bed liner for a pickup truck. :-)07:18
intelikeyeeek  kdeinit: Shutting down running client.07:18
stdinzorglu_: yes07:18
zorglu_stdin: thanks07:18
oneeyenot sure i did three steps07:18
stdin!info vlc07:19
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB07:19
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zorglu_much better :)07:20
intelikeystdin yeah that did it.   thanks.07:20
stdinintelikey: no problem :)07:20
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows07:20
zorglu_8min to update via fr.archive vs 50min via archive :)07:20
lunchboxdo I have to install a mail server for php to work...07:20
lunchboxthe mail par07:21
stevennnalright...if winowed mode is -w what is fullscreen?07:21
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Raptormni could use some help if anyone is interested in a problem07:22
Raptormnits with the install07:23
Raptormngetting this error:07:23
Raptormn[17179571.860000] PCI: Error while updating region 0000:03:00.0/0 (0000c00 !=00000000)07:23
Raptormn[17179571.860000] PCI: Error while updating region 0000:03:00.0/2 (0000c00 !=00000000)07:23
Little_EagleRaptormn: what's problem07:23
Raptormni have a E6700 processor and dvdrw(IDE) and 2 seagate(SATA)07:24
Little_EagleRaptormn: That's hardware related... PCI Bus.07:24
tdnCan you play web radio from this URL http://netradio.dr.dk/content.asp?station=undefined ?07:24
tdnI would like to be able to.07:24
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Raptormnis there any fix07:25
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zorgluq. just updated a dapper into edgy, but now the07:25
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Little_Eagletdn: You like that music?07:26
zorgluq. just updated a dapper into edgy, all my font are nice, except the one in the 'quote' of the web page, i guess this is the monospace font ?07:26
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Little_EagleMakes me think of "Beep, Beep, oh wait.  Booop, Boop, Boop."07:27
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Little_EagleActually, it's not bad.  Getting used to it.07:27
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zorglu_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy <- like in this page, all the fonts are nice, excep the one for 'glxinfo | grep direct' kindof stuff which is ugly07:28
tdnLittle_Eagle, Dunno. I would like to be able to hear it.~07:28
tdnLittle_Eagle, how do I make it work?07:28
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hammer2cna some one tell me what this file needs to renamed to from here http://prism54.org/fullmac.html07:32
zorglu_hammer2: what about asking on #prism54 ? :)07:33
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hammer2oops sorry caps07:33
Little_Eaglezorglu: You're right, ugly.  It's preformatted text, which usually defaults to courier.07:33
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zorglu_Little_Eagle: it is ugly for you too ?07:34
tdnDoes anyone of you use easy-ubuntu or automatix or something like that?07:34
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe07:34
apokryphostdn: for easyubuntu join #easyubuntu07:34
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hammer2ahh dam keybord touchy07:35
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hammer2rename to  isl389007:35
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tdnapokryphos, I do not want support for easyubuntu. I would like to know if anyone of you guys are using it? Because last time I checked it broke my system.07:35
jhutchinszorglu_: What's your browser?  You can usually set default fonts within the browser, or you can set the default fixed-space font for kde in kcontrol.07:36
zorglu_jhutchins: it is in konqueror, i know how to change the font but i dont know which font07:36
zorglu_jhutchins: there is like 6 font in konqueror07:36
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zorglu_i tried 'fixed font' but it doesnt change the way it is displayed07:37
Dr_willistdn,  theres a great many horror stories about easyubuntu, and the even worse automatix. :) on the forums/wikis and so on.. i advice - to not use it. or any similer tools.07:37
oneeyehey still need help with dvd player07:39
tdnDr_willis, thanks. I would like to make multimedia codecs work on my system. And I would like to do it without easyubuntu or automatix. I want to do it manually so that I can maintain the system(s). But I can't make it work. I have done what the ubuntu wikis say and what I can find on Google. But it still doesn't work.07:39
jhutchinszorglu_: well, it's renderig <pre>, so experiment.  Try sans.07:39
zorglu_jhutchins: ok07:40
Dr_willistdn,  ive normally just enabled the severas repository, and apt-get installed them..07:40
tdnDr_willis, ok.07:40
Dr_willistdn,  unless its some specific codecs you are having issues with. Ive also downloaded the codec packs from the mplayer homepage and installed them that way07:40
jhutchinszorglu_: I would say make sure you only have one instance of knoq open, and you close and re-open between changes though, cause fixed shoudl have fixed it.07:40
tdnDr_willis, ok.07:41
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kb3hello dr willis07:41
tdnDr_willis, compiled it yourself?07:41
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Dr_willistdn,  OR failing all that.. :) ya could use that Ubuntu Variant called "Mint Linux" it included them i think.. (but not sure how legal that is) :)07:41
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Dr_willistdn,  mplayer site has deb files for the codecs. theyve worked forme in the past.. but its probverly better to use the severas or other repositories07:41
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:41
tdnDr_willis, ok.07:42
tdnDr_willis, thanks.07:42
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zorglu_jhutchins: well i changed all the font to weirdo stuff like arabic/russian etc..., i closed, i killed the process, did kbuildsyscoca, and reopened. no font has changed at all :)07:46
zorglu_so im doing something wrong :)07:46
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zorglu_so really important for now, anyway. i can live with this for a while :)07:47
Dr_willistdn,  interesting news i just saw -->  Tollef Fog Heen has announced the third alpha release of Ubuntu 7.04, also known as "Herd CD" - now with painless multimedia codecs,07:47
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nihil_sumIs there a standard utility to change the line-endings of text files between CR, LR, and CR-LF?07:49
Dr_willistheres a great many 'dos to unix' converter programs out07:49
Dr_willisand proberly several 100 scripts out that do it also.07:49
Dr_willis!find dos2unix07:50
ubotuFile dos2unix found in tofrodos07:50
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Dr_willis!find dos07:50
ubotuFound: dosfstools, tofrodos, dosage, dosbox, doscan (and 11 others)07:50
Dr_willis!info tofrodos07:50
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ubotutofrodos: Converts DOS <-> Unix text files, alias tofromdos. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.6-2 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 68 kB07:50
Dr_willisThere ya go. :) theres many many many many others. :)07:50
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Dr_willisits a good 'practice' program to make with whatever language you are learning.07:51
tdnDr_willis, ok. Cool :)07:51
Dr_willistdn,  tempted to try out Fiesty some time... may do it this weekend.07:51
Dr_williswork time for me. byee07:51
tdnDr_willis, I would like to be able to listen to streaming audio from dr.dk. How do I make that work?07:51
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hammer203:00.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3890 [Prism GT/Prism Duette] /ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow]  (rev 01)07:55
tdnI get this error when trying to install flashplugin-nonfree: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=35907:55
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Vincent_khello all07:56
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oneeyehey can someone help me07:56
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firecrotchoneeye, what's your problem?07:56
oneeyei have a problem with the internet07:56
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oneeyewhen i tri to go to a sit i can not07:56
oneeyean error shows up07:57
firecrotchWhat's the error?07:57
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oneeyeit says Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system.07:57
Vincent_kI have a question regarding madwifi in feisty, I removed the restricted modules and installed madwifi svn, everything seems to work except that I cant connect to my ap07:57
Vincent_kI have a atheros 5212 based pccard07:58
anonymeeeeanyone have trouble playing mp3's?07:59
anonymeeeegetting an unrecognized format error07:59
hammer2<anonymeeee> try xmms player08:00
hammer2its da bomb for mp3s :)08:00
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ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule08:00
morroluxhi there could someone tell how to upgrade firefox from 1.5 to 2.0 thanks08:00
stdin!mp3 | anonymeeee08:00
ubotuanonymeeee: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:00
goodthinganonymeeee: libxine-extracodecs are needed for amarok to play mp308:01
firecrotchoneeye, does this happen no matter what browser you use?08:01
ScarFreewill1woot heard 3 :)08:01
stdinVincent_k: you'll get better help for feisty in #ubuntu+1 and/or #kubuntu-devel08:01
Vincent_kok thanks I'll try that08:02
oneeyei tried to get into google but the error popedup08:02
hammer2anyone else here had or used a NetGear Wg511 netcard?08:02
manchickenVincent_k: madwifi requires the linux-restricted modules.08:02
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hammer2has or used*08:03
firecrotchoneeye: unfortunately, I don't know much about io-slaves or anything of that nature08:03
hammer2having a bitch of a time with mine here :(08:03
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Vincent_kmanchicken: even thoug I installed madwifi separetly?08:03
stdinthe "Read-only file system" part looks like your root fs is mounted read-only08:04
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages08:04
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manchickenVincent_k: linux-restricted-modules is the "supported" way of running that device.  There may be other ways to do it, but you may have a hard time finding someone else who knows how to help you.08:04
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firecrotchhammer2: what kind of problems are you having? I have a similar Netgear card (not the exact same one though)08:05
firecrotchhammer2: are you using wlassistant?08:05
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hammer2just been trying with thye term dhclient eth108:06
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firecrotchhammer2: I doubt that the card is eth108:07
hammer2ive tried ndiswrapper to no avail08:07
hammer2i got it installed08:07
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hammer2just i dunno the whole process08:07
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firecrotchhammer2:  I'm pretty sure you don't need ndiswrapper for your card, it should just work08:08
hammer2can ya help me with t08:08
hammer2brb bring my other pc in and ill pull the plug here08:09
the_hammeri was already here i guess lol08:09
the_hammerplugs pulled08:09
the_hammerterm is open08:09
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the_hammerstill here fire?08:10
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the_hammerwell so much for that i guess08:11
the_hammernothing but headaches ive had lately08:11
firecrotchsorry, helping someone else too, the_hammer08:12
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firecrotchSo when you just plug in the card, what happens?08:12
the_hammerit has the prism driver installed08:13
prinzey los cuerpos???08:13
prinzecuerpos femeninos'08:13
prinzednd estan?08:13
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the_hammerenglisg prince?08:13
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firecrotchno aqui, prinze08:13
prinzeno hay cuerpos??08:13
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prinzecuerpos del kubunto??08:14
the_hammeru understand that fire what they sayin?08:14
the_hammerthats neat i guess08:14
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firecrotchthe_hammer:  something about women, I think08:14
prinzewere're the fucking girls bodys??08:14
the_hammerahh there the english08:14
prinzeexcuse me08:15
the_hammerprinze if ya cant get a date in the real world that should tell u something08:15
prinzeis my first xperience in kubuntu linux08:15
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prinzenow i am pro linux08:15
prinzewe have here in our town and a conference about linex08:16
the_hammergonna be a long day here now isnt it08:16
prinzeyou know??08:16
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prinzeany else comming?08:16
QuintixI really messed up X; I can't even login; I went into the consol and started X as root after setting it to vewa08:17
Quintixthe screen is running at 60hz; it is hurting my eyes08:17
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prinzewell see you, from extremadura house of linex !!!08:18
the_hammerfire are u there?08:18
prinzegood luck , this is the real shit for the world08:18
prinzei support it08:18
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the_hammerlspci shows this 03:00.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3890 [Prism GT/Prism Duette] /ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow]  (rev 01) if this helps ya any08:19
firecrotchsorry, the_hammer08:19
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firecrotchthe_hammer: have you even tried connecting using wlassistant ?08:20
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the_hammeri think ya but little box is emty08:20
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firecrotchthe_hammer: so it's not finding any access points?08:20
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xenophile7x7its off topic in here,  do you guys know a room whre i can get some help with ssl and pgp?08:21
Skrot-Is it possible to check which packages depends on a specific package?08:21
prinzeany else know about linex?? please08:21
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the_hammerits shows in eth1 but not ready error08:22
prinzelinex is the version in Extremadura Spain08:22
PantsAnyone mind helping me with a graphics card issue?08:22
firecrotchthe_hammer: you might want to try knetworkmanager instead, it's much better than wlassistant08:22
makuseruwhats the best way to rip songs off a cd and turn them to MP3's?08:23
PantsI have a mobility radeon x1600, can someone please tell me where to find and how to install the drivers?08:23
the_hammerthink i have to install that then08:24
makuseruPants: you need fglrx08:24
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the_hammersays unknown command when i do alt F208:24
PantsI already attempted to set my GFX drivers to fglrx,08:24
makuseru!fglrx | Pants08:24
ubotuPants: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:24
firecrotchthe_hammer:  it's not installed by default08:24
firecrotchI have no idea why it's not though08:24
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the_hammerok ill be back in a few08:25
PantsI've attempted to do a lot of things, every time I come up to the Boot screen though, it comes up, goes through, and when it should load up Kubuntu, it just makes a green line go across the screen.08:25
PantsOnly way it doesn't do that is if my graphics drivers are at VESA.08:25
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makuseruvesa is default ati08:25
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PantsYeah but my refresh rate is horrible,08:26
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PantsAnd I can't really do much of anything,08:26
makuseruthats why you need fglrx08:26
PantsI want to put beryl on this thing.08:26
PantsHow abouts would I do so then?08:26
PantsMy friend attempted to aid me in that situation,08:26
makuseruunless your ATI is super old like mine08:26
makuseru!fglrx | Pants08:26
ubotuPants: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:26
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makuseruwhats the best way to rip songs off a cd and turn them to MP3's?08:28
SeanTatermakuseru: how many CD's and how organized are you?08:28
makuserujust one08:28
SeanTatermakuseru: then brorse konqueror to audiocd:/08:28
SeanTatermakuseru: /browse/08:29
makuserujust a sec08:29
SeanTatermakuseru: and drag the ones from the MP3 folder to the folder (like /home/makuseru) you want them in08:30
makuseruthe CD dosnt show up anywhere08:30
PantsNew issue!08:31
PantsWhen I sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg bla bla bla,08:31
SeanTatermakuseru: Is the CD in?08:31
PantsIt comes up with some errors,08:31
Pantstalking about how I can't connect to xserver,08:31
PantsAnd the same happens when I attempt to save.08:31
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firecrotchPants:  First, you don't want to use sudo with graphical apps08:31
firecrotchuse kdesu instead08:31
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PantsPermission Denied when I attempt to kdesu it.08:32
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metelliusI'm running livecd now, the preview  7.04 herd-2 release. the installer crashed, and I'd like to update it and see if it works better. Any ideas on what packages the installer consists of? (ubiquity?)08:33
PantsAnd yes, I'm on root.08:33
the_hammerits installed i click run nothing happens08:33
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hammer2iwconfig i got pastebin08:33
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firecrotchhammer2: ifdown eth1  then ifup eth108:36
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes08:37
PantsUnder Section: Device, what should the identifier be?08:39
PantsIt says "RADEON X1600 MOBILITY"08:39
zorgluPants: i believe this is advesory only - aka you can put whatever your want08:41
the_hammerits offical my pc hates me08:41
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the_hammerits hanging on enableing interface eth108:41
the_hammerfell back to disabled now08:42
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firecrotchthe_hammer: ifconfig eth1 up08:42
firecrotchsometimes ifup does weird stuff08:42
zorgluthe_hammer: smell like dhcp issue from here08:42
PantsWell I had an issue installing my card.08:43
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zorgluok my box choosed to do fsck for the first edgy boot :)08:43
the_hammertimer expired08:44
mambodoes anybody know a program to make remote desktop with a windows from kubuntu???08:44
the_hammerssh mabe mambo?08:44
mambowont work08:44
intelikeysomebody knows a good url for a list of open sourced hardware ?   things that work in linux.  not like the printers and winmodems crap that i've been messing with  ???08:44
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX08:44
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firecrotchthe_hammer: I'm also thinking it's a dhcp issue08:45
the_hammeroh yeah i forgot about the vnc lol08:45
the_hammernaaa i know its the card drivers08:45
mamboI cant install vnc in the windows system08:45
mamboany other idea?08:45
the_hammeri had it going once already but it died cuz of stupid hot plug conflicts08:45
jottrdp / rdesktop?08:45
the_hammeri can connect np with wired net08:45
jottmambo the regular "remote desktop" for windows08:46
mambook, i'll look for it08:46
the_hammeri use to have mepis but it was nothing but headaches in there so i installed kubuntu cuz was suggested i get updated kern and then i updated kubuntu with apt-get kernel08:46
jottmambo: for kubuntu you need "rdesktop" and "krdc" as gui...08:46
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underdog5004I'm at work with a linux box. I can ssh into my home server, but I can't ftp to it (I don't think I've got a port open for it). How can I transfer files from my server to my work box?08:47
jottunderdog5004: scp :)08:48
jottor sftp..08:48
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underdog5004!scp > underdog500408:48
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:48
intelikey!mp3 | zorglu08:49
ubotuzorglu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:49
intelikeyit's codecS08:49
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zorglu_ok thanks08:49
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firecrotchthe_hammer: There's a driver that supposedly works for your card08:50
intelikeyso nobody has a goto spot for hardware listings ?08:50
underdog5004intelikey, E: Couldn't find package scp08:50
firecrotchthe_hammer: http://prism54.org/08:50
intelikeydon't look for a package.  just use the command.08:50
intelikeyman scp08:51
underdog5004ah, it's built-in?08:51
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the_hammerbeen there08:51
the_hammerrenamed it placed to /lib/firmware08:52
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intelikeyactually it's part of the openssh-client package underdog500408:52
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intelikeybut you said you could ssh in    so i knew you had it.08:52
underdog5004intelikey, thanks for the help.08:52
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underdog5004scp Peter* matthew@ipaddress:PeterMusic   ?08:53
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firecrotchthe_hammer: so you recompiled your kernel and everything?08:54
makuseruhow can i convert a wav to an mp3 in kubuntu08:54
zorglu_ah ok, my issue is not codec. just that kaffeine doesnt launch at all :)08:55
underdog5004zorglu, killall kaffeine08:55
the_hammerya mean from my update?08:55
underdog5004then try it08:55
the_hammerits all auto was a kernel image08:55
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the_hammerif we are talking bout the same thing08:55
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intelikeyscp user@remoteip:/path/file user@localhostip:/destination   ?08:56
zorglu_underdog5004: ok retrying08:56
the_hammeri cant see it being a dhc issue considering that i have 4 pcs on the net08:56
firecrotchthe_hammer: yeah, probably not08:56
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underdog5004intelikey, "user@remoteip" <== remote in relation to my work box or server?08:57
PantsOk got the graphics drivers installed, anyone mind sending me to a guide for XGL/Beryl install on KDE? :)08:57
firecrotch!beryl | Pants08:57
ubotuPants: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl08:57
PantsThanks! :D08:57
intelikeyscp user@localip:/path/file user@remoteip:/dest   ?     depends on which way you want to move things....08:57
underdog5004I want to move things from my server to my work box. I'm at my work box ssh'ing to my server08:58
firecrotchthe_hammer: Maybe start over with ndiswrapper... should be able to get it to work08:58
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the_hammerdo u know all the ndiswrapper commands?08:58
the_hammernot sure what the 2nd command is?08:58
intelikeyscp user@server:/path/file user@workbox:/destination08:59
the_hammerill connect just a sec08:59
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firecrotchthe_hammer:  nope, never used it.  My card is a newer Netgear with the Atheros chipset08:59
PantsThat forum really doesn't have a way to install berly,08:59
PantsJust an installation support forum.08:59
the_hammerlucky you08:59
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firecrotchPants: if you hang on one second, I'll find the guide I used08:59
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PantsThanks Fire :D08:59
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PantsThat it?09:00
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the_hammerdam ghosts09:01
vbgunzfor all those who remembered I had problems with kaffeine and wmv choppy audio, well, it seems on Kubuntu, I needed to build the the latest xine-lib 1.1.4. I did this and the problem went away09:01
zorglu_underdog5004: cool did the trick :)09:02
goodthinganyone tried krecordmydesktop? Just curious :)09:02
intelikeywhat's a good cheep well supported new printer ?09:02
PantsNo matter what I do, at the end it says "couldn't find package, beryl."09:02
underdog5004intelikey, ssh: home: Name or service not known09:03
firecrotchthe_hammer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG511andNdiswrapper  could be of some help :)09:03
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firecrotchPants: did you add  deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main to your sources.list?09:04
PantsOh shat! I didn't, thanks, sorry forgot :X09:04
zorglu_q. is there a way to change the background in  konqueror, it is white which seem quite 'harsh/hard' with the purple background09:04
mambochecking for gcc... no09:04
mambochecking for cc... no09:04
mambochecking for cc... no09:04
mambochecking for cl... no09:04
mamboconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH09:04
jagerwho do you have to kill to get sound to work in flash09:05
jageri just erased and did a fresh install09:05
jagerstill doesn't work09:05
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jagerdeal with it later09:07
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PantsEh, the session adding part is for GNOME.09:07
PantsWhere's the KDE session startup for Beryl?09:07
intelikeyunderdog5004 i don't recognize "home:" as a command either   what string did that come from ?09:07
firecrotchPants: You just need to add it to your ~/.kde/Autostart folder09:08
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goodthingmambo: plz try to use pastebin next time09:09
distro-testerany one know's hot tcp spy works and if it's gui?09:09
goodthingmambo: try it after installing build-essentials09:09
the_hammerim bout ready to to boot this laptop out the window09:09
firecrotchPants: it just needs to be a link to /usr/bin/beryl-manager09:10
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the_hammerill give the stupid thing root alright ill plant it 100 feet into the ground09:10
jottunderdog5004: the gui approach would be to open konqueror and type fish://uesr@yourserverip and drag the file over ;)09:10
zorglu_q. i just upgraded to edgy, and the small applet icon of the taskbar are only 1 per column instead of 2.... making them using much larger space09:10
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the_hammerbeen working on it a bloody week now and still going whats sad is im no further ahead today then i was the day i started09:11
zorglu_is there a way to get those icon smaller ?09:11
firecrotchthe_hammer: did you try that link I gave?09:11
makuseruhow can i convert a wav to an mp3 in kubuntu09:11
underdog5004thanks, jott09:11
the_hammerya it didnt help09:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:11
the_hammerclicked on a few links on that link and nadda09:12
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BluesKajthe_hammer, what's the prob?09:12
zorglu_makuseru: there is a special tools made by ubuntu for that09:12
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zorglu_!mp3 | makuseru09:12
ubotumakuseru: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:12
zorglu_makuseru: you will likely find it from those links09:12
underdog5004jott, I love you. I'm gonna name one of my children after you.09:12
the_hammerpeice of crap NetGear WG511 ver 1 card wont let me connect to the net09:12
mambo@goodthing where can i find buil-essentials?09:12
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the_hammeryup pcmia09:13
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)09:13
the_hammerit hates me09:13
goodthingmakuseru: soundkonverter, transkode or just lame can do that for you09:13
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:13
the_hammeri had it connected before for about 3 mins or so then i reboot and it was dead again09:13
firecrotchWell, what did you do that got it working, the_hammer?09:13
mambogoodthing>>> where can i find buil-essentials?09:14
zorglu_!build | mambo09:14
ubotumambo: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)09:14
the_hammerndiswrapper and then also the softmac and hardmac or what ever09:14
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PantsI have Beryl manager up,09:14
the_hammerim lost with the ndiswrapper09:14
firecrotchhi, x_link09:14
PantsBut I can't rotate or anything.09:14
Pantswhat's up with that?09:14
mambothks ubotu09:14
the_hammeri got as far as ndiswrapper -i file.inf09:15
the_hammerand then i dunno whats next09:15
firecrotchPants, you'll have to set that up in the beryl settings manager09:15
goodthingmambo: get konsole in front and hit "apt-cache seach build-essentail" with the quotes09:15
x_linkI will soon get a second computer and I thought I would try Kubuntu, since I don't like GNOME it has to be Kubuntu =)09:15
x_linkBut.. is Ubuntu/kubuntu like Debian, a stabel and unstable version?09:15
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x_linkpointy: Which version of debian are you using?09:15
firecrotchx_link, sort of, yes09:15
x_linkpointy: Which version of Beryl.09:15
x_linkfirecrotch: Okey09:16
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slyfoxAnyone here has a working Kopete with Google talk ?09:16
x_linkpointy: Sorry09:16
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x_linkI meant phants09:16
x_linkBut he went09:16
pointy* yeah09:16
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firecrotchx_link: if you want the most stable, use Dapper09:17
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firecrotchx_link: Less stable would be Edgy, and the "cutting edge" is Feisty (not recommended)09:17
firecrotchx_link: Edgy is plenty stable though09:18
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x_linkfirecrotch: Okey. I use Debian Etch right now.09:18
x_linkI want a version  with new versions of apps.09:18
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mambonow what?09:18
x_linkfirecrotch: Can you say that Edgy is like Debian Etch/Testing?09:18
firecrotchx_link:  then you definitely want Edgy09:18
x_linkfirecrotch: Okey09:18
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x_linkfirecrotch: Okey.09:18
x_linkfirecrotch: Kubuntu is almost like Debian right?09:19
x_linkJust newer packages etc. ?09:19
x_linkI even heard from a guy that Kubuntu is a bit faster?09:19
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goodthingmambo: with that you should be able to check whether a package is in the repositoties of you sources.list file09:19
JOSFDoes anyone know what the --debian switch *exactly* does in 'python setup.py install --debian' ?09:20
firecrotchx_link: Kubuntu is based on Debian sid09:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about todisc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:20
x_linkfirecrotch: Okey.09:20
goodthingmambo: or just do: "sudo aptitude install build-essential" and see what that gives you09:20
mamboits there.. thats why i dont know what is happening09:20
x_linkfirecrotch: Well it will proberly be good =)09:20
firecrotchx_link: I haven't had Edgy break yet :)09:20
x_linkfirecrotch: I once tried it for 5 minutes on a P II, I just installed it quick to see how it is.09:20
x_linkThe Menu had so little things.09:21
x_linkfirecrotch: You mean any crashes?09:21
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slyfoxCan Kopete voice talk to google talk ?09:21
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firecrotchx_link: none that I didn't cause by doing something really stupid09:21
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hammer2if ya know ndiswrapper take alook http://pastebin.ca/33744609:21
firecrotchhammer2: seems to me as if you've got it all set09:22
hammer2how do i load it tho09:22
anti_system32como puedo borrar el firestarter09:22
BluesKajerr no google talk in linux ?09:22
hammer2i know theres more commands to run like rmmod or something09:22
anti_system32el corta fuego09:22
x_linkfirecrotch: hehe ok09:22
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:22
x_linkfirecrotch: Thanks for the info mate!09:23
firecrotchx_link: my pleasure09:23
x_linkfirecrotch: I will join this channel when I installed Kubuntu Edgy09:23
x_linkfirecrotch: Do you have the url to the latet edgy version?09:23
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ladonlanhola a todos09:23
ladonlanya lo instale09:23
ladonlanjeje que bonit09:23
hammer2all i did was ndiswrapper -i netwg51.inf09:23
hammer2not sure whats next09:24
firecrotch!es | ladonlan09:24
ubotuladonlan: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:24
hammer2but i know theres more09:24
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firecrotchhammer2: ifup eth109:24
firecrotchit should work now09:24
x_linkfirecrotch: Thanks09:25
firecrotchx_link:  no prb09:25
x_linkfirecrotch: Will Kubuntu work good on a AMD Athlon 700MHz, 1GB SDRAM PC133 ?09:25
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intelikeyyes x_link09:25
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intelikeyunless you think you have to have beryl09:26
hammer2ifup: interface eth1 already configured09:26
hammer2MAKES NO SENSE09:26
firecrotchhammer2: sorry, I'm kinda learning this along with you...09:26
intelikeyis it up ?09:26
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hammer2it just says my other net info etho09:27
firecrotchhammer2: it should be wlan0 (according to what I'm reading)09:27
x_linkfirecrotch: kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso09:27
intelikeyoh wifi ?09:27
hammer2its always red as eth109:27
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:27
x_linkhrmm I think that's the version I already have on a cd.09:27
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hammer2thats what i thought to that should be under something like that and not eth109:27
firecrotchx_link: yep, that's the one09:28
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hammer2ill disconneced09:28
hammer2then get iwconfig again09:28
hammer2and then reconnect pastebin09:28
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x_linkfirecrotch: Okey09:28
x_linkThanks once again mate!09:28
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firecrotchhammer2:   sudo depmod -a    sudo modprobe ndiswrapper09:28
x_linkI really appreicate it!09:28
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x_link=) I will be back when I have ubuntu09:29
firecrotchx_link: :D09:29
x_linkKubuntu sorry09:29
the_hammerrebooting it09:29
x_linkintelikey: No, I will not have Beryl on that machine.09:29
x_linkintelikey: But will it really run smoothly and fast?09:29
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xglfr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:29
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:30
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ikhouvanjehai everyone09:30
firecrotchHi, ikhouvanje09:30
ikhouvanjespreekt er iemand hier nederlands?09:30
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ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl09:31
intelikeyx_link i run kde on ubuntu on a p1mmx 100mhz  64m ram 33mhz fsb    you tell me how much differance in that and what you described...09:31
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ikhouvanjeif i wanna go to #ubuntu-nl09:31
ikhouvanjehow do i do09:31
firecrotchikhouvanje:  /join #ubuntu-nl09:32
BluesKajin the server textbox ikhouvanje09:32
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devilsadvocatewhy is amarok-engines not in the default kubuntu install?09:32
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HymnToLifebecause the developpers didn't include it09:32
the_hammerok that command  sudo depmod -a    sudo modprobe ndiswrapper put me to a prompt09:33
x_linkintelikey: hehe ok, Well that's good that it runs well.09:33
x_linkBye everybody !09:33
x_linkTake care!09:33
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the_hammersorry took so long but rebooted and did the command09:33
firecrotchthe_hammer: no errors?09:33
zorglu_kubuntu has to learn to leave the previous theme when upgrading. the theme are full of 10years old stuff but not the dapper stuff09:33
HymnToLifethe_hammer, that's normal, now do    sudo iwconfig09:33
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter09:33
intelikeyx_link i've never yet seen a system that everything you clicked was instant ready.   and don't expect too.   but the hard ware you described is more than adaquit for the modern linux system.   if you want 3D multi-desktop special affects that might be pushing it...  but for the "default" system it's more than enough.09:33
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cascade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:33