CugelI've seen countdown clocks./12:13
dettoalt1imentiarwen oh well, the tty terminal is still pretty cool12:14
livingdaylightmc: so why do they say 19th? 12pm?12:14
Cugelubuntuforums.org dudes.12:14
BloodyTuxi want kde 4... whats so special about kde 4 anyways?12:14
Kamuimultiple file unzipping?12:14
Arwendettoalt1imenti, how is it you have 1280x800? lol - that's a really odd aspect ratio12:14
mcBloodyTux: google for it12:14
livingdaylightstoft: are you kidding? this feels like Christmas... i get all antsy and i wake up early ready to open presents12:14
yung__sanne: could you explain again how you fix your problem?12:14
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dettoalt1imentiarwen- I have a toshiba satellite laptop, it might be some kind of 'widescreen' resolution12:15
yung__sanne: you modified xorg.conf file right?  remove other resolutions in the screen section12:15
mcBloodyTux: kde4 will be the first 4d desktops,with a real TimeMachine integrated,with which you can travel forward an backwards in time so that you get more work done in less time12:15
stoftlivingdaylight: I know what you mean, I misread the date a few days ago and thought it would be the 17th... :-( But it's the easiest way to get through...12:15
Arwendettoalt1imenti, ah - huh, guess you get what you deserve... (btw, 800 is a really small number for vertical resolution)12:15
mcBloodyTux: just google for it,for example Koffice 2.0 has got some great concepts12:16
Arwenmc, time machine = fail...12:16
Sanneyung__: sure. But maybe it's easier if we both look at your xorg.conf. Could you paste it to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?12:16
mcBloodyTux: kde4 will have more eye-candy and will(hopefully) use less memory12:16
mcArwen: sure?12:16
BloodyTuxyea mc, the TimeMachine was removed after a lawsuit of when a tester got stuck in 40000000 bc12:16
Arwenmc, very sure...12:16
livingdaylightstoft: i don't have any beer in the house to take my mind off things12:17
stoftlivingdaylight: your house is broken. ;)12:17
mcBloodyTux: and i thought microsoft had a patent on time machines and that would be the reason :)12:17
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mcArwen: really?12:17
Arwenmc, yeah... I don't want any kind of timeshifting in my gui, thank you...12:17
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mcArwen: hm,ok,so no mac os x for you?12:18
BloodyTuxwe're sure, besides too many dinos are loose in toronto now...12:18
Arwenespecially because that usually translates to "insecure and massive disk cache"12:18
Arwenmc, hell no12:18
ArwenI'm not buying an OS that's DRMed to only work on *1* platform12:18
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Arwennow, away from this tangent...12:18
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:18
yung__sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16321/12:18
yung__sanne: I modified like that..12:18
stoftlivingdaylight: see u in offtopic12:19
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livingdaylightstoft: #kubuntu-offtopic?12:19
stoftlivingdaylight: yes12:19
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Sanneyung__: yes, that's what I meant. You use 1024x768? If so, and it didn't help, it's indeed a different problem. Or not... you can try not to log out, but kill the xserver by hitting ctrl-alt-backspace.12:20
Sanneyung__: so you would force that xorg.conf would get read anew12:21
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yung__sanne: yes I'm using 1024x768..12:21
soulrideranyone here ever used solaris?12:22
soulrideri got hre DVDs from sun and installed it today but it took over 3 hours!!12:22
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Sanneyung__: I would try kinning X. You won't get your session saved, then. just so you know. KDM will come up again after that, so you can log in again.12:22
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mc__soulrider: me,solaris express12:23
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yung__sanne: thank sanne..12:24
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Sanneyung__: if this doesn't help, reboot. If it still doesn't help, it's a different problem, I would say.12:25
Sanneyung__: you're welcome.12:25
BloodyTuxi'm installing like 50 games :) most which i won't ever use12:25
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ArwenBloodyTux, 50 games? as in Doom 3 kind of games? or Sudoku kind of games?12:25
soulridermc__: does it take ages to boot? i installed solaris express too, and it took ages!12:25
mc__soulrider: well,it doesnt boot as fast as kubuntu12:26
BloodyTuxidk, just random games, almost all from games in adept12:26
twobrandysIts the Final Countdown!12:26
twobrandysLong live Martell!12:26
mc__soulrider: about a minute i think12:26
ArwenBloodyTux, hehe12:26
mc__BloodyTux: some very good ones are:netpanzers,cube,sauerbraten,wormus,liero12:27
ArwenNexuiz ftw!12:27
Arwenanyway, I get cpu spikes whenever beryl does anything, that's not normal is it?12:27
mc__BloodyTux: enemey territory is great to,but there is no package12:27
Arwenmc__, oh... yay12:28
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Arwenanyawy, mc__, tried Nexuiz? :-)12:28
BloodyTuxanything like risk?12:28
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Sannehttp://www.linux-gamers.net/ is a nice site for games12:28
mc__Arwen: of course! but i get owned all the time ;(12:28
mc__BloodyTux: Lux12:28
Arwenmc__, same :-\12:28
Arwenmc__, and it kernel panics my system... that's ATI for you12:28
mc__Arwen: btw: are you running Beryl on XGL or AIGLX?12:28
Arwenmc__, AIGLX12:28
mc__Arwen: hehe,ATI sucks all the time,im proud to be an nvidia user12:29
Arwenmc__, with the state of ATI, Intel cards run better and faster :-\12:29
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mc__Arwen: have you tried XGL? it seems to offer better performance sometimes12:29
Arwenno.... XGL = fail12:29
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mc__Arwen: have ya tried it with the lates driver? or with that one in the packages?12:29
Arwenmc__, fglrx = fail too...12:30
BloodyTuxany snes emulators?12:30
ArwenBloodyTux, yes, fceu12:30
coreymon77BloodyTux: also zsnes12:31
coreymon77BloodyTux: which i personally think is better12:31
coreymon77BloodyTux: zsnes can be gotten through apt12:32
mc__Arwen: is your card suppoerted?12:32
coreymon77anybody know of a kubuntu n64 emulator12:32
Arwenmc__, yeah, borderline - it's r37012:32
mc__coreymon77: google knows it12:32
soulriderhey guys, in Open office calc i pasted some values, they are all similar to 1.3177304 but open office just shows 1.3212:32
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soulrideri need it to show the whole value because i gotta copuy them into scilab12:32
Arwencoreymon77, there is one, but it's not in the repositories because of legal issues12:32
soulriderany ideas ?12:32
mc__soulrider: you can somewhere change the precision,number format or something12:33
mc__Arwen: well,who needs Beryl anyways?12:33
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Arwenmc__, oh no, beryl works, but anything that's seriously GPU intensive causes kernel panics..12:33
BloodyTuxanyone here play poker2d?12:33
soulriderif i click the thing it shows the whole number, but if i dont it shows an aproximation12:33
twobrandysstoft|away: its nearly midnight here12:33
soulridermc__: i like having beryl around, makes my desktop feel frendlier12:33
soulriderand windows users pee their pants12:34
Arwensoulrider, lol, Aero...12:34
mc__i just need it to show off12:34
mc__Aero is nothing against Beryl12:34
Gh0st75coreymon77 still no luck. i think there may be an issue with the system time on Kubuntu tho, it was 2 hours ahead, so i reset it to the correct time (after trying the commands again), and now when i try the commands it seems i have to wait for the time to match to what it was before12:34
coreymon77oh damn12:35
Arwenmc__, hehe, dunno, only Beryl feature I really use are the animations and the window picker12:35
coreymon77i remember that12:35
coreymon77that happened to me12:35
Arwenoh yeah... opacify is great too12:35
Gh0st75before changing the time the error i would get was Error  for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A)12:35
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Gh0st75SET failed on device ath0; No such device12:36
Gh0st75when i tried eth0 instead of ath0, i'd get the same first error, then SET failed on device eth0; Operation not supported12:36
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Aluminwhen you alt-tab in beryl, are the window icons real-time?12:37
Gh0st75ath0, ath1, eth1, all gave the same result12:37
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Gh0st75only eth0 gave the operation not supported error12:37
stoft|awaytwobrandys: past midnight here12:37
coreymon77Gh0st75: what is your actual card12:37
coreymon77Gh0st75: nvm the chipset12:37
Gh0st75when i checked system settings it lists the device ID as eth012:37
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coreymon77Gh0st75: what card are you using12:38
Gh0st75lemme see if i can get more detailed info on the device/chipset12:38
coreymon77Gh0st75: nvm the chipset12:38
coreymon77Gh0st75: i want the actual card12:38
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dsmiththere is a wiki for known problems? hmmm, ubuntu doesn't have problems12:41
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Arwendsmith, wiki.ubuntu.com12:43
mc__Arwen: yeah that feature is nice,but its better on the mac...12:44
Arwenwhat feature? lol12:44
mc__Arwen: i dont use mac anymore but expose is really great12:44
Arwenah, expose :-)12:44
coreymon77there is kompose12:44
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mc__kompose sucks12:44
dsmithArwen: Thx, But I was commenting on the channel topic12:44
Arwenonly part of Aqua/Quartz that I actually like...12:44
Arwendsmith, ah12:44
ferret_0568Beryl RoX!12:45
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ferret_0568Why when I'm in History on the Universal Sidebar, I can't select the search box?12:45
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Arwenwhatever they were called... stupid clock and junk that'd invade your screen if you put your mouse in the wrong place..12:45
Arwenhmm, there we go, I think that's it12:46
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kendworkhrm, is it possible to get Kubuntu 6.10 discs shipited?12:48
kendworkmy LUG's got an event coming up in mid-May, so "up to 10 weeks after april 19th" isn't so good :)12:48
Arwennot from Canonical12:48
coreymon77kendwork: yup, but you gotta pay for em12:48
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kendworkand regular Ubuntu, the same?12:48
twobrandys I have IBM lenovo R60e - would Ubuntu or Kubuntu run and look better on there?12:49
Arwenkendwork, yes12:49
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kendworkdarn :)12:49
ArwenI think Amazon sells Ubuntu CDs though12:49
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kendworkhrm, ubuntu.com faq server timeout12:50
kendworkyeah.  we can burn our own.  shipits look much nicer, though12:50
kendworkwe prob dont have a budget to buy discs12:50
kendworkok, i'll ask the LUG members to start 'aburnin'12:50
Arwenheh, if you need lots of em, you could buy a CD pressing machine :-)12:51
ferret_0568I should burn a couple 7.04 discs12:51
ferret_0568In both GNOME and KDE flavors...12:51
Arwenferret_0568, there are sets of complete Ubuntu DVDs... every package :-)12:51
mc__ferret_0568: theres shipit,order some12:51
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kendworkthx, cya!12:54
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flakeif I set up another user on my linux pc, how can I log into it remotely to take advantage of the 'multi-user' feature?12:55
flakefrom windows?12:55
flakeor does it have to linux and how?12:55
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ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX12:56
flakeah cool12:56
flakecan my pc be at the login screen or does it have to be up in order to use the vnc protocol?12:56
LjLor you can use an X server for Windows. not sure the configuration is terribly easy tho12:56
ferret_0568It can be at the login screen12:56
apuscan anyone help me get my spdif output on my soundcard working, everything else works12:56
ferret_0568Or no GUI, infact12:56
ferret_0568Use Xming for a X Server on Windoze12:57
LjLflake: depends how you set things us, but you can have a VNC server running in the background always ready to accept connections12:57
flakeLjL - thanks, will look into it and will give me something else to play with12:57
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apuscan someone name a good widget program12:58
kendworkok, quick question...12:58
kendworkdoes anyone think Canonical has leftover 6.10's they'd be willing to ship?12:58
kendwork(JUST in case :) )12:58
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chijindo they even ship 6.10's12:59
ferret_0568Hmmm...I should try it again12:59
kendworkthat's my question :)12:59
kendworkthe site does not say they do12:59
kendworkbut the FAQ is inaccessible12:59
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kendworkwe'd need discs in Davis, Calif before May 11th12:59
marcell__movies ??01:00
ferret_0568No, he said LUG01:00
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kendworkok, folks on #ubuntu said 6.10 was never shipped for free, anyway01:00
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kendworkanyway, thanks.  will need to burn :)01:01
ferret_0568I would personally burn Feisty01:01
ferret_0568Out tomorrow01:02
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TheCreationistI am trying to update from Kubuntu Edgy to Feisty, but when using the update-manager to do so, it crashes with the ever informative error: "Error calculating the upgrade..."  Any ideas?01:03
ferret_0568type gpg into the terminal01:04
kalorin`what's really changed in feisty?01:04
TheCreationistferret_0568: Then what?01:04
ferret_0568and then when it says "Please type your message", press Ctrl+C01:04
TheCreationist...the update didn't say anything about authentication, though01:04
ferret_0568Hmmm...not sure01:05
ferret_0568You could ask in #ubuntu and #ubuntu+101:05
dsmithgood news http://apcmag.com/5835/vendors_in_no_rush_to_ditch_xp_for_vista01:07
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CVirusdsmith: still .. who cares01:08
combatmodeKtorrent doesn't run at all01:08
BloodyTuxis it just me or can no one connect to ubuntu.com?01:08
combatmodenot working for me01:08
BloodyTuxk, just making sure my internet doesn't suck01:09
combatmodeonly bittorrent work.01:09
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combatmode.. There is ktorrent and bittorrent01:09
combatmodewhat else ubunutu has01:09
combatmodeopss wrong channel01:09
dsmithwho cares? what kinf of attitude is that, we as a community should care01:10
kenneth_Timeout on server01:10
kenneth_ Connection was to www.ubuntu.com at port 8001:10
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elgordo123I'm going to be the 1 millionth person to ask... Is there a fiesty torrent out yet?01:15
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Hasta-La-Vistaelgordo: our the 999, 988th person to ask01:16
apecatgeez, ubuntu.com is slashdotted01:16
elgordo123the ubuntu website is pretty much toast right now01:16
Hasta-La-Vistaneed more mirrors01:16
elgordo123i was able to get  text version of d/l page, still shows 6.10.  hoping that feisty existed out there somewhere01:17
mc__you all could just use the beta...01:18
elgordo123Isn't it "the 19th" somewhere in Europe right now :)01:18
BluesKajhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/  ...The Kubuntu 7.04 Beta has been removed to allow space for mirrors to fetch the upcoming Kubuntu 7.04 release. Please check back soon, or download a daily build of the desktop or alternate images.01:18
kenneth_I can confirm that it is the 19th in Norway :-)01:18
Hasta-La-VistaI dont know,, but 19 servers and they are still lagged...01:18
mc__elgordo123: since 1hour01:18
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elgordo123so mark shuttleworth is full-o-crap :)  The 19th, such BS hahaha01:19
elgordo123it's the 19th somewhere dammit01:19
Hasta-La-Vista19th in Australia01:20
elgordo123<-- was hoping someone would leak an early iso or torrent of feisty.   Stupid loyal employees...01:21
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TheDebugger... Just the get beta and update..01:21
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TheDebuggerI already have feisty01:21
mardijust wait a week :p01:22
wharpix1:20am in germany... I'm waiting ...  oh.. I will be tired tommorow01:22
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elgordo123why can't we have an ubuntu store?  Apple has thier stores and they get to lineup before it opens.  I wanna store too01:22
Hasta-La-Vistai'll wait before upgrading from edgy01:23
Hasta-La-Vistaelgordo: haha01:23
Hasta-La-Vistanice idea though01:23
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TheDebuggerAnd.. no more updates to the system since 2 days01:24
mc__wharpix: why not just use the beta?01:24
Hasta-La-VistaUbuntu store, offer free software, but offer paid support01:24
elgordo123<-- already backed up system, formatted drive, sitting by PC with CD-ROM already opened01:24
makuseruhow can i resize a partition if i cant get on a live cd to use qtparted?01:24
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elgordo123<-- and a couple of pints of guiness to pass the time.   Hopefully I wont be to blasted to put CD in CD drive and reboot...01:25
ramiro82hola alguien que ayuda a instalar el aMSN en Kubuntu01:25
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ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.01:26
angasule!es | ramiro8201:26
uboturamiro82: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:26
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elgordo123Ramiro usar amsn-project.net o gaim01:27
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elgordo123amsn es muy rico, pero gaim (pidgin) es mas mejor01:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:27
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sierra-x!es | elgordo12301:28
ubotuelgordo123: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about streamtuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:28
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Daisuke_IPFWBluesKaj: i'm actually looking for a way to stream media from the home pc to here.  i'm in class and pretty bored.  but it's okay, it's a linux class01:28
elgordo123que? what if I quero spanglish?  es #kubuntu-spanglish exists?01:28
Daisuke_IPFWum...  no.01:29
BluesKajremote pc ?01:30
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Daisuke-Idothat wasn't cool.01:30
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elgordo123Cmon Mark--just do it- 4  8  15  16  23  42 -Execute....01:31
elgordo123Release feisty..... 4  8  15  16  23  42 -execute Please...01:31
Daisuke_IPFWk, got my screen session back01:32
apecatmy guess is that those poor overworked  developers will perform the following: 4  8  15  16  23  42 -execute (release feisty) --> 42001:33
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who_hell yea01:34
elgordo123exactly.  Guess I'll have to check back every 108 minutes to see if it has happened01:34
BluesKajapril 2001:34
apecatthat too :P01:34
elgordo123if not, then the end of the world rests solely on Mark Shuttleworths shoulders01:34
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apecatthe ubuntu team deserves a nice 42001:35
elgordo123Maybe he is too busy counting his last billion dollars and will release it after that.01:35
unix_infidelw00t, one more day :)01:35
unix_infideland then probably another day after b/c servers will be overloaded.01:36
elgordo123Or maybe drunk and passed out next to a playboy model at the mansion and just forgot01:36
elgordo123that is the only acceptable excuse.01:36
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elgordo1234  8  15  16  23  42 -Execute.  I'll be back in 108 minutes and check again01:38
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ferret_0568Does anybody know where GKrellm gets it's ACPI "THM" temperature value from?01:45
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ferret_0568Found it: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM01:47
BloodyTuxughhh firefox won't load01:47
ferret_0568Trying to set up a SuperKaramba monitor01:48
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ferret_0568Try the BuildAMon monitor01:48
ferret_0568That's what I'm using01:48
apecatBloodyTux: have you checked with backuping your old firefox profile, deleting it and starting firefox?01:48
BloodyTuxnvm it started01:49
apecataah, k01:49
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apushow do I make a command in konsole like "kate" so that when the terminal is closed the program doesn't close01:49
BluesKajapus use the run command in the kmenu01:50
apusI can't its in a script that is necessary to run the command01:50
BluesKajif open something the terminal it will close when the terminal is closed ...you can minmize it tho01:51
BloodyTux:/ what's the command to slap someone with a fish??? or is that mirc only?01:51
BluesKajsorry i'll rephrase that : if you open something in the terminal it will close when the terminal is closed ...you can minmize it tho01:52
apusI remember something about running it as a backround task01:52
apuswhich alloud the konsole to be used for other things01:52
BluesKajapus, you can open several shells in the konsole simultaneously01:53
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apusyes, but I want to know how to use the background task command01:54
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flaccidctrl + z ?01:55
BluesKajdunno what you mean running in the background :(01:55
Daisuke_IPFWapus: add & after the command01:55
Sanneapus: you can start it like thus: 'kate &' then you can run other commands from the same terminal. The apps will still close with it, though. I forgot how you prevernt that, but I read it recently, so it is possible.01:55
Daisuke_IPFWfor instance top &01:55
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Daisuke_IPFWthat particular example is useless, but hey01:55
Tired_Hi.  I'm trying to install kubuntu 6.10, and it wants a password...what is it?01:56
BloodyTux#ubuntu-trvia. everyone join!01:56
Daisuke_IPFWTired_: it's asking for a password and username during the install01:56
Daisuke_IPFWyou pick one :P01:56
Tired_new install, re-started x-server01:56
Daisuke_IPFWthat will be your username and password01:56
Tired_no, it wants me to log back into the installer01:56
Daisuke_IPFWon the cd?01:57
Daisuke_IPFWusername ubuntu, no password01:57
Tired_thanks  :)01:57
Daisuke_IPFWyou're welcome01:58
Tired_that's a bit of a usability issue...if you need to change your display settings before running the installer, it tells you to log out and restart the x server, but it doesn't tell you you'll need that info...01:58
ubotuThe #ubuntu-trivia channel is a place for testing your brain power and having fun! We schedule themed quizzes, every Friday, to test your knowledge of your favourite operating system (Ubuntu, of course!) and keep you exercising those cranial muscles.01:58
Tired_might want to add something there...01:58
Daisuke_IPFWgot a media server working.  though APPARENTLY i can't stream xvid :\01:58
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Daisuke_IPFWTired_: agreed01:58
Tired_you can't stream xvid?  why not?01:59
Daisuke_IPFWi don't think xvid streams at all, though :\01:59
geniiogg is better for streaming01:59
Daisuke_IPFWgenii: yeah, but my entire scrubs collection is xvid, and reencoding isn't an option02:00
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Tired_i stream xvid over my lan...it works, if not the most elegant thing02:02
Tired_so I can watch stuff off the media server in the browser on my laptop02:02
Tired_it would work over the net, too, but i don't have the bandwidth02:02
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TheCreationistJust a quick question: Is ntfs write support included in Feisty ?02:04
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Yorokobi!ntfs-3g | TheCreationist02:05
ubotuTheCreationist: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)02:05
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TheCreationistYorokobi: I know about that... didn't answer my question, though ;)02:05
Tired_how good is NTFS read-only support, like for a network share?02:05
YorokobiTheCreationist, ask on #ubuntu+102:05
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Tired_rough guess...how long should i expect the install process to take after the six pages?02:08
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Tired_like, should I go and get dinner, or will it be faster than that?02:09
giovani20-some minutes -- depends on a lot of things02:09
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Tired_dinner it is, then...i just wasn't sure...the installer starts up so fast!02:10
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Daisuke_IPFWTired_: read-only is *excellent*02:10
Daisuke_IPFWbut write access...02:10
Tired_sweet :)02:10
Tired_oh, i don't need write.  i'm trying to move away from windows, but i have a lot of data still on ntfs drives02:11
nbogdanoffi have twinview orientation setup for dual monitors with kubuntu. when i run a rdesktop -D its defaulting to the left monitor.  how can i set this to open on the right display?02:11
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Daisuke_IPFWyou should be fine02:11
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apusI have an app that asks me for an install directory, where should I put it02:11
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nbogdanoffcause when i run the same command in gnome, it will open on the monitor on the RIGHT02:12
rubynis the new release already out? what time will it be?02:12
nbogdanoffboth using the same xorg.conf02:12
Tired_... there's a new release?02:12
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rubynyes, upcoming today..02:12
Yorokobinbogdanoff, use a rdesktop gui (tsclient). It should spawn the rdp session on the same screen as the gui initiator02:12
Sanneapus: somewhere not under the government of the pakcage manager. Usual places are somewhere under /opt or /usr/local.02:12
rubyn7.04 coming today02:12
rubynit's really better i heard..02:13
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apusSanne: can I give it its own directory?02:13
nbogdanoffYorokobi: im calling rdesktop from the command line.02:13
Tired_figures...is there aything like apt-get upgrade?02:13
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rubynati drivers included, nvidia too..02:13
Sanneapus: I always try to do that first. Most times it works.02:13
rubyni think so but... i suggest you to reinstall02:13
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giovaniTired_: sure, you can do an apt-get dist-upgrade -- but you might want to hold off for the new installer -- dist-upgrades are often unclean and messy02:13
Tired_wil it be available tomorrow, you think?02:14
giovaniit should be available sometime in the next 24 hours02:14
apusI need to run this executable from terminal in order for it to work, why doesn't it work when I use a shortcut (it gets as far as the splash screen)02:14
Sanneapus: since it won't be in the path, you may need to put a link to the executable to /usr/local/bin (whis should be in the path). Maybe the installed does this for you, though.02:14
Tired_ok.  i might as well pack it in for the night and grab the new one tomorrow, then02:14
Tired_thanks for all the help, and the wicked distro  :)02:15
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nbogdanoffYorokobi:  its weird too. when i change the "LeftOf" or "RightOf" setting in xorg.conf when using gnome, the icons on my desktop stay to the left monitor, yet the menu icons time, date etc all go to the right monitor02:15
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apusI even have a script in the pwd of the executable that runs the executable, and when the script is run via terminal it works, but when the script is run via link it doesn't work02:15
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apusalso, if anyone else wants to simultaneously help me with this, my sound card has two issues, its not doing stereo very well, and its spdif output isn't working02:17
Sanneapus: (please type my name when talking to me so my chat client notifies me). Can have many reasons. Best would be if you could paste the error message to paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:17
nbogdanoffwith dual monitors and Twinview setup, how can i force a GUI app to open on the left or right ?02:18
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apussanne: there is no error message02:18
giovaninbogdanoff: you can't02:18
Hasta-La-Vistawhat is the package name for thunderbird 2??02:18
Sanneapus: ok, what did you do exactly? Where is the executable, how do you start it when it works, and how when it doesn't?02:19
giovaninbogdanoff: they're not separate displays as far as the program is conerned02:19
nbogdanoffok fair enough, i understand that from viewing the xorg.conf02:19
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giovaniHasta-La-Vista: it was JUST released -- it's not going to be officially available for ubuntu yet02:19
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Hasta-La-Vistai've been using it for months now02:19
giovaninbogdanoff: nvidia twinview provides faked Xinerama information for programs to know where the monitors are -- but not all programs support Xinerama info02:20
Lam_how do i find out what /dev my ipod is hugged up to?02:20
nbogdanoffgiovani: : maybe you can explain this to me. in gnome the rdresktop opens to the right, but in kde it doesnt02:20
Hasta-La-Vistaahhh IPOD hug...02:20
giovaninbogdanoff: I have no idea -- it's possible you launched it from that display (a terminal on that display)02:20
apusSanne: its /home/tim/matlab/bin/matlab, it works when I type the path and the executable into any konsole window, or when I link to it as long as the link has "run in terminal" selected02:20
apusSanne: it doesn't work when the executable is ran from a link (with "run in terminal" not selected)02:20
nbogdanoffwhen i tweak my settings to RightOf (from LeftOf) my login prompt is all on the right side and when i get into the desktop so is the toolar with menus date time etc, but the icons on the desktop stay on the left monitor02:21
giovaniHasta-La-Vista: it was released today -- if you've been using beta versions, fine, but ubuntu doesn't typically include software in beta in its repositories02:21
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apusSanne: I want to be able to run it from a link or shortcut like any other program, but with no terminal open, to prevent it from closing if the terminal closes02:21
giovaninbogdanoff: is that relevant?02:21
Hasta-La-Vistaberyl is in beta isn't it?02:21
Sanneapus: what kind of file is /home/tim/matlab/bin/matlab? A binary, or a shell script?02:21
Hasta-La-Vistai wont argue symantics though02:21
nbogdanoffkind of. id like to know why gnome will handle this the way i want to, but kde wont02:21
nbogdanoffis there a primary display setting ?02:21
apusSanne: how can I tell?02:21
nbogdanofffor kde02:22
giovaniHasta-La-Vista: beryl isn't included in ubuntu02:22
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Hasta-La-Vistayes, but its still available02:22
giovaniyou must be using unofficial, unrelated ubuntu-compatible repositories02:22
apusSanne: this is the first line in the file "#!/bin/sh"02:22
nbogdanoffgiovani: ne ?02:22
Sanneapus: ah, so it's a shell script.02:22
Hasta-La-Vistahave to upgrade your source list02:22
giovaninbogdanoff: no, talking to Hasta-La-Vista02:22
giovaniHasta-La-Vista: nonetheless, this is extremely quick to have a custom, unofficial build available -- give it time02:23
nbogdanoffid just like to know why gnome will fire the window on one monitor while kde on the other02:23
Hasta-La-Vistaaye aye02:23
Sanneapus: what kind of link did you do that you want to run? Or do you just put in the path to this file and run it? With "run in terminal" checked and without?02:23
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giovaninbogdanoff: I don't have an answer for you other than that you may have started it from a terminal on the other window -- I don't know -- it's difficult to troubleshoot a minor nuance like that over irc from what you're telling me02:24
apusSanne: just a create new application link, and type the path in02:24
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Sanneapus: ok02:24
giovaniHasta-La-Vista: in the meantime -- consider using kmail -- it's far better than thunderbird 1.5 -- we'll see if they fixed a lot of the problems in 2.002:25
nbogdanoffi cant drag an icon from one monitor to the next?02:25
Hasta-La-Vistai dont like kmail, I have used it02:25
apusSanne: for some reason it wanted to be put into /home/tim but I put it into /home/tim/matlab, is the fact that its in my user directory going to cause me problems (i will be the only user ever on this machine)02:25
Hasta-La-Vistabesides kmail does not have a windows port02:25
giovaninbogdanoff: you cannot drag icons on your desktop to the other monitor?02:25
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Sanneapus: funny. I have a hand installed firefox from mozilla.com that is also started with a shell script. But that works like you want to. I can try to look at this matlab start script if you want, maybe I find something. If you want me to, please paste it to the pastebin.02:25
nbogdanoffi was able to had to uncheck align to grid02:25
giovaniHasta-La-Vista: this is a kubuntu channel -- how is that relevant?02:25
apusSanne: the script file?02:26
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Hasta-La-Vistaits not relevant...02:26
Sanneapus: yes02:26
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apus!paste | apus02:26
nbogdanoffgiovani: so i opened a terminal from the monitor i would like to have the GUI app i call from command line to open in, and it still revers back to the other monitor02:26
Sanneapus: paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:26
giovaninbogdanoff: I said I didn't have an answer for you -- twinview is sort of a hack nvidia does -- it may be doing funky things, I'm not a twinview or xorg expert02:26
nbogdanoffthanks for the input02:27
apusSanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16329/02:27
Sanneapus: looking...02:27
giovaninbogdanoff: try googling for 'rdesktop twinview' or 'rdesktop xinerama'02:27
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giovanithat might yield some information02:27
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Sanneapus: see line 104 and following ;)02:28
Sanneapus: those lines after '#' are comments, btw.02:30
apusSanne: how do I set it to show lines on the left in kate02:30
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giovaniunfortunately, nbogdanoff left before I could give him the link that elaborated on this precise issue: http://osdir.com/ml/network.rdesktop.devel/2007-02/msg00005.html02:30
apusSanne: and I see the -desktop02:30
Sanneapus: sec (you could also look at the pastebin, there are line nimbers)02:30
Sanneapus: yeah, that's supposed to be needed as a command line argument for your situation.02:31
Sanneapus: in kate: View->Show Line Numbers or F11 (by default)02:31
apusSanne: so can I put that in the command line in the link, or should I still use script02:31
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Sanneapus: you can try to put this in your link: /home/tim/matlab/bin/matlab -desktop02:33
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apusSanne: that dind't work, but adding it to the script and linking to the script works, Thanks!.   But now, when it loads, the gui is blank, I'm using beryl and if I leave the window open, switch to kde, it appears, then switch to beryl, and it stays just fine in beryl, the switch is annoying02:34
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Sanneapus: cool it kinda works. Unfortunately, I know nothing about beryl, but I heard it sometimes is messy with some applications. Maybe somebody else here could help with that?02:35
apusSanne: how are you with sound issues?02:36
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Sanneapus: not too good, because my soundcard just worked, so I didn't need to investigate. Sorry...02:37
Lam_how do i figure out what /dev a usb device is assigned to?02:38
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SanneLam_: open a konsole window, monitor the syslog by typing: 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' (no quotes), plug in your device and watch if the log says anything helpful. I dunno if it helps, but it's worth a try.02:44
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Lam_Sanne: ok thanks. i'll try that02:44
Daisuke_IPFWwell, time to go home02:44
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thefirstdudewhere can I get the wind32codecs and mplayer for kubuntu02:44
thefirstdudeis there a repository I can add?02:44
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Sannethefirstdude: mplayer is in the repositories, the codecs can be had here, I think: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/02:46
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Sannethefirstdude: mplayer is in multiverse02:46
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Sannegotta sleep, night all02:48
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soulrider_uhm, how do i start a daemon manually ?02:58
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flaccidsoulrider_: gui or cli ?03:00
TheDebuggersudo /etc/init.d/deamin start03:00
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ferret_0568Does KDE have it's own on-screen keyboard?03:05
ferret_0568Or should I just keep onboard03:06
ferret_0568I am using many sed's in succession to filter through GNOME packages to remove03:06
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ferret_0568First removing all the libs (the list of packages to remove is for Edgy, not Feisty), and then other stuff03:07
ferret_0568Like, I want to keep all gimp stuff03:07
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apusI try and delete something and I get this error Could not write to file /mount/data2/.Trash-1000/info/intramurals.odt.trashinfo.03:22
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TheCreationistI just did a fresh install of Feisty and now my system takes a good 3 minutes to boot.  I tried running it in recovery mode and noticed a few errors.03:26
TheCreationistqc timeout.  And something about xfermod... and then "Failed to recover some devices"03:27
TheCreationistAny ideas?03:27
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RawSewageFeisty was just released, right03:29
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RawSewageguess not03:32
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jtti heard it was delayed the other day03:34
jttany up for a kopete question actually several03:35
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:36
hitmanWillyfeisty comes out tommorrow03:36
hitmanWillyaccording to the website03:37
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hitmanWillychannel's gonna be packed03:38
dwidmannThat's not necessarily a bad thing03:38
jttkopete how do i save the current open channels so the next time i start kopete those channels are active and i dont have to execut  /join every channel again03:38
dwidmannI reckon the forums absorb most of that hit anyway03:38
hitmanWillydwidmann, at least initially03:39
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dwidmannjtt, hmm, let me check ... I know I've done it before03:39
jttdwidmann: thanks03:40
hitmanWillyjtt, there should be an option to autojoin channels for a particular server03:40
intelikeyhitmanWilly mainly cause i'm not using feisty,  there will be new issues and i can't just say  >> #ubuntu+103:40
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jtthitmanWilly: let me check03:40
dwidmannjtt, I've got it03:40
hitmanWillylol, luckily, ive been running feisty for a while now03:40
jttdwidmann: ok fire away03:40
dwidmannin the account configuration for the irc server, in the advanced configuration tab03:41
dwidmann"Run following commands on connect"03:41
intelikeyhitmanWilly then i expect you to be here     </grins>03:41
dwidmannput in /j #kubuntu03:41
jttdwidmann: ok thought that was some other sort of commands thanks03:41
hitmanWillyintelikey, i'll keep my schedule open :)03:41
jttthanks again03:41
jttits been driving me nuts03:42
dwidmannjtt: it is some sort of commands, you can run any, yes, even /join :D03:42
apusjtt: just wondering, why not use konversation?03:42
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jttapus: didnt know about it guess i will have to look at it also03:43
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jttsomeone said that kopete was  just like  gaim so i thought i would look at it03:43
hitmanWillyi like xchat myself, the detachable windows are what keeps me coming back03:43
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jtti have used xchat  still just poking around to see where i want to settle03:43
dwidmannI used Kopete for IRC up until I started rubbing up against a nasty memory leak ...03:43
apusjtt: konversation is very easy to set up, in fact the easiest auto join feature I have ever seen in an irc client03:44
jttok konversation is next to look at03:44
jttappreciate all the input03:44
jttsomeone on another channel said they released  Ubuntu, is that correct?03:45
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jtti.e. not the RC the full release03:45
dwidmannnot yet03:45
dwidmannSometime within the next 24 hours most likely03:46
jttok the person making the statement said it had been released, np03:46
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dwidmannat least, if they have released it, there haven't been any announcments of such ...03:47
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hitmanWillythe website still has it as tommorrow03:48
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DaSkreechCan I reinitialize my Kernel?03:51
kalorin`konversation is just an xchat client with some options taken away03:52
kalorin`most notibly you can't hide the server tabs03:52
kalorin`that's hwat I miss about it03:52
kalorin`xchat is the daddy though03:52
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flaccidyou mean a frontend03:52
flaccidare you sure it interfaces xchat03:53
flaccidcoz then that would be a dependency03:53
biotroxi can't connect to my vpn server03:53
intelikeyDaSkreech that's called a "reboot"03:53
kalorin`dude, it's seriously just flat out xchat redone03:53
biotroxit said permission denied03:53
giovanikalenedrael: it is not "an xchat client" -- it's not an "xchat frontend"03:53
DaSkreechintelikey: Not when that's what broke it03:53
kalorin`install xchat and go thorugh the configs for it03:53
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intelikeyDaSkreech some modules can be removed/reinserted03:53
flaccidkalorin`: show me the proof that its made from xchat..03:53
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giovaniflaccid: he's plain wrong ... ignore it03:54
kalorin`just install xchat and go into the config tabs03:54
kalorin`they're exactly the same only konversation is missing a few options03:54
flaccidit might be similar and copied from xchat. but hey there is something called UI theory...03:54
flaccidkalorin`: you do realise that concludes nothing!03:54
flaccidso please stop saying it.03:54
giovanikonversation has superior identity management, as well as server clustering03:54
kalorin`prove me wrong03:54
kalorin`xchat does clustering03:54
giovanikalorin`: just go look at the sourcecode03:54
giovaninot well03:54
flaccidkalorin`: i belive the onus of proof lies with you03:55
kalorin`not well? you put several servers in th tab as someplace to connect to03:55
giovaniyou're basing this on nothing other than visual similarities03:55
kalorin`it picked through them to find one that connects03:55
flaccidshow us the proof that konversation is a fork of xchat..03:55
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flaccidi look like a dickhead, doesn't mean i am one..03:55
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giovanikalorin`: come into #konversation and discuss this with the developers03:55
intelikeylang flaccid03:56
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ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:56
DaSkreechintelikey: I installed the kernel on a different machine03:57
DaSkreechI think that screwed it03:57
flaccidi find kalorin`'s language more offensive than mine...03:57
dwidmannFar as I'm concerned the main UI for all of the larger GUI IRC programs is pretty much alike ... doesn't make any difference though03:57
intelikeyDaSkreech different arch ?03:57
kalorin`ok maybe it's just the UI03:57
kalorin`but it's like spot on the same config03:57
kalorin`that's what I was basding it off of03:57
DaSkreechintelikey: Nope03:57
kalorin`not the UI so much but the config options being identical even on the same tabs03:57
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kalorin`it's kde-ified03:58
flaccidkalorin`: looks mean nothing.03:58
flaccidbig deal03:58
flaccidwasn't that the point of the project03:58
flaccidcan we move on03:58
intelikeyDaSkreech i carry kernels from one box to another all the time.... DaSkreech what you may run into is initramfs.img problems.   assuming you use one.03:58
intelikeyDaSkreech or if you don't use an init*.img  then it may well be the drivers you built into the kernel.03:59
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DaSkreechintelikey: Standard dist-upgrade04:00
intelikeyDaSkreech tell me what you've got there, maybe i can help.04:00
DaSkreechintelikey: Turn on the computer (after switching the hard drive to the new machine) Boot kernel panic04:00
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DaSkreechreboot choose old kernel it gets half way and stops04:00
Ashexhow does one add a script to startup with login?04:01
DaSkreechreboot choose same old kernel and take of *(#%$#)(& quiet boot and it boots fine04:01
DaSkreechCome in here04:01
intelikeyDaSkreech ok that's probably root addressing more than kernel problem04:01
DaSkreechask how to reinit kernel04:01
AshexI just setup GCALDaemon and I want to have it startup with my login, or system, depending on how i can do it04:02
DaSkreechintelikey: I guess if / has not been mounted there is a slim chance of having a log of the kernel panic?04:02
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intelikeyDaSkreech i sujest you rebuild the initramfs.img for the kernel you want to use  on the system you want it to boot.04:02
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intelikeyDaSkreech no chance at all.04:02
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DaSkreechintelikey: should locate detect the initramfs.img ?04:03
intelikeyit's in /boot04:03
Ashexso, anyone know?04:03
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ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.04:03
intelikeysomething like  initrd.img-initramfs.img-2.6.20-1204:03
DaSkreechAshex: check inside the /etc/init.d folder04:03
JucatoAshex: ^^^^^04:04
DaSkreechJucato: He said computer didn't he?04:04
DaSkreech assuming that Ashex is a he04:04
JucatoDaSkreech: <Ashex> I just setup GCALDaemon and I want to have it startup with my login, or system, depending on how i can do it04:04
DaSkreechintelikey: in /boot ?04:04
intelikeyDaSkreech yes04:04
DaSkreechJucato: Ah my mistake. Thought he meant computer04:05
DaSkreechintelikey: not there04:05
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kiamorningslxwho can tell how can I find an ubuntu Chile chat room?04:05
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.04:05
stdinshould be something like /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic04:05
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intelikeyDaSkreech what do you have with init* in there04:05
yamathanHmm ...04:05
yamathanDoes anyone know a way to copy an .iso from a CD?04:05
kiamorningslxwho can tell how can I find an ubuntu Chile chat room?04:05
TheCreationistDaSkreech: Hello.04:05
flaccidkiamorningslx: use /list ubuntu in your irc client04:05
DaSkreechkiamorningslx: What language do they speak in Chile?04:05
stdinyamathan: k3b will do that04:05
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stdinyamathan: yeah, k3b does it all :)04:06
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:06
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creadorcreativokiamorningslx: #ubuntu-cl04:06
hitmanWillyyamathan, k3b will rip, copy, burn pretty much anything04:06
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AshexDaSkreech, ah, thanks04:06
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stdinyamathan: I think it's Tools -> Copy CD04:06
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: Still can't span audio CDs as far as I can tell04:06
intelikeyDaSkreech   ls /boot/init*04:06
yamathanThanks, stdin!04:07
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, don't do too much of that, so i don't know04:07
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, most of my ops are from disc to hdd04:07
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DaSkreechintelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16344/04:08
yamathanThanks, stdin!04:09
intelikeyinitrd.img-2.6.20-13-386 DaSkreech   that's what the name is.  i'm sure it's an initramfs image   the differances are suttle but important.04:09
stdinyamathan: no problem :)04:09
yamathanMan, I can't believe just how simple so many things are in Ubuntu compared to Windows, even after a year an' a half.  XD04:09
kalorin`ok so other than vim, has anyone found anything as good as ultraedit on windows?04:09
Minatakuintelikey: Doesn't the kernel check anyway?04:10
yamathanI mean, it would take me MINUTES just to get Nero running, and it's not as feature-blistering.04:10
DaSkreechintelikey: Right what do I do now?04:10
intelikeyDaSkreech i'm assuming you want the newest one rebuilt...    sudo mkinitramfs -o initrd.img-2.6.20-13-386 2.6.20-13-38604:10
stdinyamathan: just wait until the next release of k3b, version 1.0 is EVEN better :)04:10
TheCreationistJust updated to Feisty, now my sound doesn't work.  Checked the volume and drivers and all that... any ideas?04:11
intelikeyMinataku yes if you are asking about the initrd/initramfs issue it does indeed.04:11
Minatakuintelikey: In which case it shouldn't really matter, right?04:11
MinatakuSince the kernel checks anyway04:11
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intelikeyMinataku you could it bob the kernel doesn't look at the name.04:12
DaSkreechintelikey: Wait there is a new out :)04:12
DaSkreechintelikey: Sweet I can update and delete that one :)04:12
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intelikeyDaSkreech k04:12
apusso what types of peeps use kubuntu04:13
stdinthe smart ones04:13
AshexDaSkreech, the problem with the script is that it doesn't obey the init.d rules (doesn't start with ./foo.sh start)04:13
apusmy campus uses red hat enterprise on the linux machines :X04:13
intelikeyapus geeks freeks and L-users04:13
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intelikeyAshex chmod04:14
DaSkreechAshex: then listen to Ubotu04:14
DaSkreech!autostart | Ashex04:14
ubotuAshex: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.04:14
intelikeywont it still need to be executable ?04:14
intelikeyor does kde do the   sh file.sh  thang?04:15
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stdinstill need permissions to execute04:15
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stdin(i think)04:15
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intelikeyor does kde do the   sh file.sh  thang?    :)04:16
intelikeystdin think was as far as i could go there,  that's the reason i letf an out.04:17
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intelikeyi need to finish building this box...    back in a few.04:17
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AshexI've already done a chmod +x on it04:21
AshexIf i do use autostart, I should be able to create a shortcut to the script itself (located in /usr/local/sbin/04:21
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stdinyeah, link or desktop file. both work04:22
apusany free decent fortran compilers?04:22
stdin!info g7704:23
ubotug77: The GNU Fortran 77 compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.4.6-10ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB04:23
apusany fortran 95?04:23
intelikeyAshex you are aware of the potential problems that a user or world writable script can cause aren't you ?04:23
stdin!info gfortran04:24
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ubotugfortran: The GNU Fortran 95 compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.1.1-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB04:24
stdinapus: there you go :)04:24
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hitmanWillyfortran, that's reaching back there :)04:25
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apusso once I know the name of the package whats the easiest way to apt get it using the right name04:26
apushitmanwilly: im 20 years old04:26
stdinapus: sudo apt-get install package04:26
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hitmanWillyapus, wow, and you know what fortran is? that's impressive04:26
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dazuko - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:26
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apusand whats the "package name"  for that particular one04:26
apushitmanWilly: actually aerospace engineers use it all the time04:27
stdinapus: "gfortran"04:27
apusits better for us than anything else04:27
hitmanWillyapus: probably gfortran04:27
hitmanWillyapus: cool, didn't know that one04:27
apussomething to do with no pointers in the language04:27
apusI said that once and someone knew what I ment and why it mattered, I know that its the reason we do it, and sorta understand what a pointer is in other languages04:28
hitmanWillyapus, cool, might have to look into that myself :)04:28
apuswhy it makes it faster I dont know04:28
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flaccidapus: can we not talk about fortran again today please04:29
hitmanWillyapus, i HATE pointers, its why i don't know C any better than i do04:29
intelikeyNASA still uses the transport device built for the satern V  rockets in the 1960s           "if it aint broke, ..."04:29
apusthe crawler... rawr04:30
yurimxpxmando any of you know where I can find the original vi for download?04:30
hitmanWillyimagine commuting in that thing...i merge, NOW04:30
intelikeyyurimxpxman origenal.... no   very old version  check slackware04:31
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intelikeyhitmanWilly heh.04:31
hitmanWillyvi is GNU, right? maybe their site?04:31
intelikeyhitmanWilly not likely.04:32
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makuserucan i upgrade from edgy to fesity by changing edgy to feisty in my sources.lsit04:32
intelikeyi mean not likely that they would still have an ancient copy posted04:32
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jttyurimxpxman, find a very old AT&T unix machine it may be there04:32
kalorin`hitmanWilly: you mean, "I merge Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow"04:32
kalorin`(insert more o's04:32
yurimxpxmanjtt: I don't have any clue where I could find one of those. The only link I've found to it for download is now broken04:33
jttyurimxpxman, no better than that email bill joy he build it while attending berkely04:33
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jtthe may have a copy of the original04:33
yurimxpxmanjtt: That's actually not a bad idea. I could ask Kirk if I can't get a hold of Bill Joy. Kirk's a friend of mine04:33
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jttbill joy may still have a sun email  bill.joy@sun.com04:34
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dwidmannmakuseru: why not try the dist-upgrade tool mentioned in the channel topic04:34
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Kubuntu-Noobanyone know how to get a PCMCIA Wifi card to work?04:34
yurimxpxmanjtt: I found it! :D http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net/04:34
hitmanWillyit DOES still exist04:35
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jttyurimxpxman, how about those apples, great04:35
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sparrI need to view a lot of jpeg images and delete or skip each one.  I need it to pre-load the next image so that I don't have to wait after each one (there are thousands).  Suggestions?04:35
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: It's much older than Gnu04:35
apushow do I change a folder so that the current user can execute04:35
hitmanWillyyeah, im seeing that, my nix history gets pretty fuzzy before 9804:36
DaSkreechapus: You can't execute a directory?04:36
apusfiles int he directory I mean04:37
intelikeyDaSkreech you must execute a dir or no cd into it04:37
jtti think he means execute files in the current directory04:37
intelikeyapus chmod04:37
DaSkreechintelikey: I know that' I'm surprised he has one with no execute on it04:37
intelikeyapus what fs is it on ?04:37
DaSkreechnot the sort of thing that happens by accident04:37
stdinapus: just make the files executeable, chmod +x file (that makes them world executable)04:37
stdinFS= FileSystem04:38
intelikeyapus yes   what fs = file system04:38
apusits ext304:38
intelikeyyeah  chmod04:38
apusthis is in a folder that I will be doing a lot of quick coding in, is there a way I can make it so anything in this folder is executable04:38
intelikeyapus no04:38
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apusin our lab we NEVER chmod our executables, we just compile and go04:39
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intelikeychmod -R will set recursively     but anything new will have default perms04:39
apuscan I change default perms for this folder04:40
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intelikeyapus make install generally does a chmod04:40
apusmake install?04:40
intelikeyapus not for one dir only    i don't think.04:40
LeeJunFanif the fs is mounted as fat then all are executable if the fs is mounted with exec option.04:40
apusits ext304:40
intelikeyLeeJunFan he said ext304:40
stdinmaybe with umask (in bash)04:40
LeeJunFanat the lab too?04:40
apusi can check, what command would I run to see the file system04:41
LeeJunFanapus: mount04:41
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intelikeystdin umask = 000   ?    that would make  touch blah ;ls blah -l  >>> 666 perms   no?04:42
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stdinintelikey: 777 i think04:42
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jtt777  umask subtracts from 77704:42
apustype "none"04:43
DaSkreechAre we having a release party?04:43
apusLeeJunFan: the type is "none"04:43
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apusis there a better command to see the file type?04:44
stdinintelikey: seems it's set to 666 if umask is 00004:44
intelikeystdin that's what i said....04:44
hitmanWillyumask -111?04:44
stdinintelikey: I had to check, never really used it before tho04:46
hitmanWillywill that work?04:46
intelikeystdin you beet me to full proff  but yeah04:46
apusactually, it looks like nfs04:46
apusmount -l and they all say type nfs04:46
intelikeyhitmanWilly the dash would cause it to error04:46
hitmanWillyok, not really familair with umask04:46
LeeJunFanapus: hrm, the project dir could be anything then.04:46
apusi could work around it, make a script that runs the compile command, and then the chmod04:46
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stdinhitmanWilly: it seems to be a bash built-in, "help umask" in bash shows some usage04:46
intelikeyapus anything on a M$ fs is +x04:46
apuscan anyone recommend a good remote desktop program to connect to a windows server04:47
sparrapus: krdc04:47
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ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX04:48
intelikeyapus the short answer is "yes".04:49
kamuiI think I finally got my laptop running perfectly, the pen works great, I still can't rotate the screen or use the tablet pc's special buttons, but things are looking good (its a convertible).  The only issue I have is since I did an apt-get install kde and later and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, every apt-get I do now says I have unused packages and seems to want to dispose of everything I have kde related04:49
hitmanWillyoh, duh...my handy book here says you can use symbolic cmds with umask ie +x04:49
kamuianyway to clear the apt- autoremove "queue"?04:49
DaSkreechExpected more people04:49
hitmanWillyerr, actually -x in this case04:51
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RictooCan someone tell me why ndiswrapper is just plain-out not working? =/04:51
apusany way we can get our hands on the torrent being released tomorrow?  I have 1 mbyte uplink04:51
apusI could seed04:52
kalorin`so anyone have an editor that compares well with ultraedit on windows?04:56
kalorin`that's the one thing I've yet to find04:56
kalorin`(other than a way to make photoshop run outside of vmware)04:56
apuskalorin`: well, I downloaded ultraedit for windows once I saw how good kate was04:56
TheDebuggerTry virtualbox, you could be surprised.. like me04:56
TheDebugger( Like vmware but better imo )04:56
kamuikalorin`: I love vim04:56
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kamuino better editor04:56
kamuimaybe emacs04:56
kalorin`kamui: yeah vim is very nice04:56
kalorin`but ultraedit has some features that are just too nice04:56
kamuiconversion of values04:56
kamuisyntax for every language04:56
apuskalorin`: try kate, you cant go wrong, block edit mode, mass commenting, line numbering, and it supports syntax for most lanugages04:56
intelikeykalorin` i like "mc -e "04:56
kamuivimscripts.org can fix it04:56
kalorin`k I'll give it a whirl04:56
kamuiif you're really desparate, notepad++ runs in wine ;)04:56
kalorin`vim I'd like to use mouse support for04:56
kamuikalorin`: and you could always try to run ultraedit in hine04:56
kalorin`well ultraedit runs in wine04:56
kalorin`if you want to call that running04:56
kamuikalorin`: try gtk vim or kvim04:56
kalorin`it's WAY slow04:56
kamuifor vim w/ a gui04:56
kamuikalorin`: really?04:56
intelikeymc does mice04:56
flaccidwhats wrong with the k programs like kate and kdevelop04:56
kamuiI suggested kvim04:56
kalorin`well there's just a ton to sift through04:56
kalorin`thus I ask what folks are using and work from those suggestion04:56
kamuikate is weak, and kdevelop is more of a pure ide then text editor04:56
kalorin`it helps filter04:56
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intelikeyflaccid they are tied to a gui04:56
flaccidi don't understand the problem here04:57
flaccidwhy iskate weak?04:57
kalorin`no problem04:57
kamuiI like vim/and its gtk,qt,kde variants because no matter what enviroment you're in, you have an extremely powerful editor available04:57
hitmanWillyok, nevermind on the umask thing :)04:57
kamuithat doesn't change04:57
flaccidi use it all day04:57
kalorin`kate is pretty good04:57
kamuiI hate kate, but thats a personal feeling04:57
kamuiits like using notepad04:57
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kalorin`I just end up doing a ton of data manipulation day in and day out04:57
flaccidim a programmer and don't see what features you could possibly need..04:57
kamuionly useful for quick viewing files if anything04:58
kalorin`hex editing would be nice04:58
flaccidwell use a hex editor then04:58
kamuiflaccid: Im willing to bet 80% of us here are programmers04:58
yurimxpxmanI just installed the original vi, but it's not displaying anything on the screen when I open a file, except '"README" 145 lines, 6062 characters'. What am I doing wrong here?04:58
kalorin`macros I didn't see04:58
apusI do all of my programming in kate04:58
intelikeycomparing kate with notepad  is like comparing  kde with twm04:58
flaccidkamui: i'm willing to be thats incorrect04:58
kalorin`I have eclipse for programming04:58
intelikeythey both run in a gui....   that's about the end of the comparison04:59
flaccidit depends what you are coding. if you need more features than editing, thats what IDEs are for..04:59
kamuithere in lies the beauty of vim04:59
kamuiits an ide/text editor/ultimate editor.04:59
apusanyone know where I can get info on seeding the torrent for tomorrow04:59
imaginevi sux04:59
kalorin`vim is very powerful, no question04:59
jttyurimxpxman, original vi was not gui only command line05:00
kalorin`I love vim05:00
flaccidbut what features specifically are you talking about?05:00
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:00
imagineI only use vi for editing config file05:00
yurimxpxmanjtt: I'm running it in a terminal05:00
flaccidits cool to say its ultimate but why05:00
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kamuiflaccid: I say that because it can do just about anything05:00
kamuiyou want it to do05:00
jttyurimxpxman, ok type :1  see it it goes to line 1 of the file05:00
flaccidkamui: thats a useless comment. it can't cook eggs for me05:00
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jttyurimxpxman, thats  colon followed by 105:01
yurimxpxmanjtt: Thanks! That works! :D How do you show more than one line at a time then?05:01
kamuiflaccid: that was also a useless comment, who wants a text editor to cook eggs05:01
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hitmanWillyi do...05:01
jttyurimxpxman, :1,5p05:01
flaccidkamui: you never specified a limit. you said that it can do just about anything05:01
sonicchaoOkay. you know the backround in konqueror?05:01
hitmanWillyit would save me a lot of work05:01
jttyurimxpxman, you ar taxing my memory05:01
yurimxpxmanjtt: You are my hero! :D05:01
kamuiwell flaccid: for a programmer I can understand that you really think the sky's the limit05:02
flaccidso if you have no actual argument for vim..05:02
sonicchao(say you were looking at trash:/ how do I change the background behind the icons?)05:02
flaccidits called UoD05:02
jttyurimxpxman, it takes most of the commands you would normally type at the prompt05:02
jttin the gui that is05:02
kamuibut in all seriousness, it can be used for almost anything related to text editing and data entry05:02
kamuiand it can be done on almost every platform05:02
yurimxpxmanjtt: I've always used vim. I had no idea you had to tell vi to display the text. That seems a bit strange to me.05:03
apussaying java is good because it works on all platforms is like saying anal sex is good because it works on all genders05:03
flaccidplease define 'almost anythign related to text editing'05:03
jttyurimxpxman, that was what we used before the gui's came along05:03
flaccidit might be a good idea to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe_of_discourse05:03
kamuiI'ts been defined enough.05:03
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yurimxpxmanjtt: What did you start out on?05:04
kamuiif you want to continue to be an ass, lets at least move onto a different topic05:04
flaccidit hasn't been defined at all05:04
kalorin`I only want omlets with mushrooms, salsa, onions, and maybe some chicken05:04
kalorin`so if it'll do that, I'm happy05:04
kalorin`otherwise spare the eggs05:04
jttyurimxpxman, better yet  try to use  ed   that is the original UNIX editor written by someone at Bell Labs that worked with Kernigan and Richie and Thompson05:04
jttyurimxpxman, it is really fun05:04
yurimxpxmanjtt: that'd be a terrific experience.05:04
flaccidthis is the most useless off-topic conversation i've had for at least half a day in this channel..05:04
yurimxpxmanjtt: what was your first machine?05:05
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kamuispeaking of which, when DID you actually get invited into the conversation05:05
kamuioh wait, it was my fault.05:05
intelikeyflaccid ummm two hours  but who's counting05:05
apuswhy put the emphasis on "did"05:05
jttyurimxpxman, pdp 1145  tape boot  select the  077777777  switches real fun05:05
flaccidintelikey: how can we make it stop05:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:05
yurimxpxmanjtt: what OS were you running?05:05
kamuiemphasising of didn't seem right there.05:06
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:06
DaSkreechsonicchao: It's in the Konqueror config05:06
intelikeyflaccid we could call the opps  and get our buts baned ?05:06
stdinnah, all the ops are sleeping now05:07
stdinbest not to disturb them05:07
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DaSkreechare the torrents up for Feisty?05:08
DaSkreechWhen does this chan become offically Feisty support?05:08
stdinDaSkreech: when it's released :)05:08
DaSkreechstdin: that's UTC right?05:08
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sonicchaoDaSkreech: I've looked.05:08
intelikeyDaSkreech or the second tuesday of next week....05:09
DaSkreechHmm I have to add nutrional info to Catfish in Krecipe05:09
stdinwhen the ISO is out, and I get an email with the subject "feisty is out", then i'll stop sending people to +105:09
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DaSkreechstdin: reasonable05:10
DaSkreechspeaking of hybrid where is Hawkwind?05:10
sonicchaoDaSkreech: It is in appearance, isn't it?05:10
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DaSkreechsonicchao: Not sure05:10
sonicchaoDaSkreech: D: I have looked through appearance, and I can confirm that it ain't there.05:12
DaSkreechOkie :)05:12
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ferret_0568Does anybody know of a cool Mac OS X-like Dock that is in a Ubuntu package?05:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:13
DaSkreechWe don't have dock factiod yet?05:13
ferret_0568He's a serious bot, he doesn't mess with GUI stuff05:13
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:14
ferret_0568Nah, not really05:14
DaSkreechCan't get more GUI than that :)05:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kooldock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:14
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.05:14
ferret_0568!info kooldock] 05:14
ubotukooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB05:14
hitmanWilly!info kooldock05:14
sonicchaoYeah, you can.05:14
ferret_0568I'll try it out05:15
ferret_0568...after I get GNOME purged05:15
intelikeyferret_0568 the "] " a typo ?05:15
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DaSkreechferret_0568: really fat fingers?05:15
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ferret_0568Really skinny fingers05:16
DaSkreechOh its by the enter key?05:16
intelikeyi'm a little surprised that ubotu let you by with it.05:16
dryribsanybody have a minute to help me with a %^& mp3 problem.  I'm (obviously) a new user.05:16
ferret_0568I don't type the correct way05:16
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DaSkreech!mp3 | dryribs05:16
ubotudryribs: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:16
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ferret_0568dryribs? I would like Ribs, not dry Ribs! dryribs, can you get me some real Ribs?05:16
dryribssorry man, these are only dry05:17
ferret_0568I'm about to remove GNOME05:18
intelikeyyou aren't from wonded knee are you ?05:18
ferret_0568I'm not05:18
dryribsDoes the default location of the multiverse packages vary based on what geographic location I selected when I installed Kubuntu?05:18
ferret_0568travis@ubuntulaptop:~/Desktop$ sed -e 's/ lib[^ ] *//g' Packages\ to\ remove\ n\'\ purge | sed -e 's/ gimp[^ ] *//g' | sed -e 's/ gaim[^ ] *//g' | sed -e 's/ shared-mime-info[^ ] *//g' > test05:18
ferret_0568This is a small window05:18
ferret_0568I don't really know how to use sed, I got that trick from #bash05:19
bill_kjust got the kubuntu 20070417 and booted to livecd.  Bluetooth keyboard + mouse not working.  (had the same issue with 6.10) Can anyone help me out?05:19
intelikeydryribs "deb http://www.<country code here>.ubuntu*"05:20
sonicchaoI've never actually heard of a case where keyboards do work that are wireless.05:20
stdinintelikey: www?05:20
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dryribsthe reason I ask, is that I can't apt-get the  libxine-extracodecs package05:20
intelikeydryribs in the /etc/apt/sources.list05:20
stdinintelikey: shouldn't it be <country code>.archive.ubuntu.com05:21
intelikeystdin no www in yours ?05:21
stdinintelikey: none05:21
intelikeystdin ah yeah archive.ub05:21
dryribsI uncommented my sources.list file... Would it be possible that the canada location wouldn't have the file?05:21
DaSkreechferret_0568: What are you doing?05:21
intelikeystdin hmmmm.05:22
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stdindryribs: post the file to pastebin and we'll have a look at it for you05:22
intelikeydryribs did you update after you altered the file ?05:22
DaSkreechdryribs: did you add in the word multiverse?05:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:22
bill_ksonicchao: it's the logitech dinovo.  The bluetooth pairs by hardware I believe (via connect button on usb adapter and keyboard + mouse) and works in bios and booting.   But once the gui loads it dies05:22
dryribsok, hold on.  I have updated since (I changed it last night)05:22
ferret_0568DaSkreech: removing GNOME05:22
DaSkreechferret_0568: Shouldn't you be able to remove some glibs and get rid of it?05:23
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bill_kintelikey: any ideas on getting my keyboard working ;)05:24
pedrohi, anyone brazilian, for help me?05:24
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.05:24
dryribsthe contents of my sources.list file is now pastebin'd to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16355/05:25
ferret_0568There will be some libs required by GNOME that are also required by KDE05:25
ferret_0568My package list for removing GNOME is for Edgy, not Feisty05:25
intelikeybill_k maybe try setting xorg to   NOT touch the keymap  ?05:25
ferret_0568So I had to filter out the libs with this: sed -e 's/ lib[^ ] *//g' Packages\ to\ remove\ n\'\ purge05:26
intelikeybill_k no not really.05:26
bill_kintelikey: how do I do that?  just commenting out lines?05:26
stdindryribs: yeah, multiverse isn't there, I'll add it, then you can copy it back05:26
dirgedollwhats a fun game for kde to dl out of adept. :)  No preferences, just looking fomr something else that is fun05:26
kalorin`open arena05:26
kalorin`not sure it's adept05:26
stdindryribs: use this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16356/05:27
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dryribsisn't it in line 26 and 27?  is there a good resource on the web for modifying the file?05:27
dryribsthanks stdin05:27
intelikeybill_k i don't know if xorg can read a raw keyboard.      sorry.       you might ask in #xorg        also you can ask in #ubuntu   someone in there may have that hardware.05:27
dirgedollif it isn't adept, is it synaptic?05:27
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:27
stdindirgedoll: ever tried frozen-bubble ?05:27
bill_kintelikey: thanks :)05:27
dirgedollno i havent05:27
ferret_0568frozen-bubble is awesome!05:27
ferret_0568Ever try Enemy Territory?05:28
stdindirgedoll: it's a cool game, you HAVE to try it05:28
ferret_0568gl-117, supertux?05:28
ferret_0568TORCS, GTetrinet, Armagetron Advanced, all free05:28
ferret_0568I love Linux!05:28
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sonicchaoDaSkreech: View -> Configure background05:29
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DaSkreechsonicchao: Duh! it's not in the config at all05:29
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DaSkreechWhere it would be obvious to put it05:29
intelikeybill_k also a test you might preform    boot to the full system and hit   [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]     see if it will drop you in a console.     test the magic sysrq  keys too.05:29
DaSkreechOf course!!!!05:29
dirgedollno but i will hehe05:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sysrq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:29
sonicchaoI know D:05:29
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ferret_0568So much free and great stuff!05:30
ferret_0568I'll get a screenshot...05:30
bill_kintelikey: I can only get to ctrl + alt+ f1 before the login screen loads.  Once it's loaded, nothing works, even in the virtual termnals.  I can boot to recovery mode though05:30
jbrouhardAnyone have trouble upgrading edgy to fiesty ?05:30
jbrouhardi just ran the installation instructions on the FiestyUPgrades page05:31
jbrouhardand I don't see anything that says "Version UPgrade"05:31
intelikeybill_k ok then you have tested....   that info is useful, i just don't have the answers for you.05:31
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bill_kintelikey: how do I kill bluetooth?05:31
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intelikeybill_k   kill the pid    or   sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth* stop05:32
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bill_kwill try it, lol05:32
uranoskubunmtu con que estas05:33
bill_kbecause I figure the system has usb support but not bt when booting.  So If I kill bt support, maybe it will work?05:33
uranosen que version05:33
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intelikeybill_k if you have another box you can connect to that with you should be able to do lots of trubble shooting in and  ssh05:33
reldruhCan somebody please help me solve a problem I'm having with mounting a samba share in my fstab file? I keep getting Access Denied errors and nothing I've tried has fixed them05:34
intelikeystdin your phone is ringing05:34
bill_kintelikey: I'm in a college dorm so I've been stealing a keyboard from the computer lab downstairs :)05:35
jttsince they have declared the RC canidates will RC's be the Final Release or will they make changes then Release Final05:35
jttdepending on the bugs that is05:35
intelikeydepending on the bugs05:35
stdinintelikey: huh?05:36
intelikeyjtt if you update right now.  chances are you will have the release version.05:36
intelikeystdin see reldruh05:36
jttintelikey, well i have all the RC's a/o  4/15  and 4/1705:36
jttintelikey, so i wondered if they will be the Finals05:37
stdinreldruh: post your fstab to pastebin please05:37
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Kubuntu-Noobanybody have some smartz they could lend to a noob?05:37
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peanutbdoes anyone know how to tell why my laptop is shuttingdown randomly when encoding mp3s (with Liblame)?05:38
intelikeyjtt that i couldn't say.   but if you are running feisty and you update now.  it's not likely that there will be any major change tomarrow.05:38
jttintelikey, yeah figured as much thanks05:39
intelikeyKubuntu-Noob yeah.    stay away from computers.  they'll ruin your sex life.05:39
reldruhstdin: http://www.pastebin.ca/44754905:39
ferret_0568There's my cool KDE desktop05:39
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Kubuntu-Noobrunning livecd and sudo depmod -a complains "Read-only file system"05:39
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peanutbferret_0568, where is the wallpaper from?05:40
bill_kferret_0568: aaah Java!!!05:40
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stdinreldruh: do you need to supply a username/password to access aaron-server/Music ?05:40
Kubuntu-Noobabout lib/modules/2.6.18-kanotix-l/modules05:40
intelikeyKubuntu-Noob yeah you can't alter the system files on a cd.05:40
justin_myricki cannot run the kubuntu 6.10 live cd. it freezes saying there are errors on hdc (my cdrom drive), does anyone have any tips?05:40
Kubuntu-Nooboh so thats not a ramdrive or something05:41
Kubuntu-Noobso if I install to HD it should work05:41
Kubuntu-Noobthat  step at least05:41
reldruhstdin: not to browse it using smb:/. When I put in a username and password I still get the error message. When I just put a username and no password I get 'anonymous login successful' but then access denied05:41
Kubuntu-Noobtrying to get wifi to work05:41
Kubuntu-Noobfound a forum artical that says I need to do05:41
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DaSkreechleileilol: hey05:42
Kubuntu-Noobsudo depmod -a           after ndiswrapper -i w511.inf05:42
Kubuntu-Noobgot past the ndiswrapper step05:42
stdinreldruh: can you mount manually "sudo mount -t smbfs //aaron-server/Music /home/aaron/Media/Music" ?05:42
Kubuntu-Noobbut does this mean theres no way to get wifi working from live-cd ?05:42
reldruhstdin: no, same error message05:43
stdinasking for a ban there justin_myrick05:43
stdinreldruh: what is the exact error message?05:43
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dryribsthanks <stdin>, you saved my life.05:44
reldruhstdin: "8427: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)"05:44
intelikeyKubuntu-Noob yeah, i could be mistaken but i believe you are trying to rewrite the actual file on the cd  when you issue the  depmod command.  they weren't really expecting people to alter the kernel on the live05:44
stdindryribs: no problem :)05:44
ferret_0568Apparently, that's Bill Gates trying to crush Tux05:44
ferret_0568Tux wins though :-D05:44
Kubuntu-Noobtux is the penguin right?05:45
intelikeyof course.  cause he's   really really cool05:45
ferret_0568Yeah, the Linux mascor05:45
stdinreldruh: what if you try cifs, instead on smbfs "sudo mount -t cifs //aaron-server/Music /home/aaron/Media/Music"05:45
intelikeypenguin  cool  play on words...05:45
intelikeynever mind05:45
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bobstroferret_0568: no Kill Bill wallpapers?05:46
ferret_0568I believe there are some on that site05:46
bobstroferret_0568: my fave, though damned hard to look at after an hour or so. too bright.05:47
reldruhstdin: "mount error: could not find target server. TCP name aaron-server/Music not found. No ip address specified and hostname not found" When I substitute the ip address of my server I get "mount error 13 = Permission denied"05:47
kermit_I need some video card advice any video card gurus in here?05:47
intelikey!nv | kermit_05:48
ubotukermit_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:48
stdinreldruh: you used sudo?05:48
kermit_actaully on what card to get05:48
dirgedollthanks for the wallpaper05:48
reldruhyes stdin05:48
stdinkermit_: avoid ATI like the plague05:48
intelikeykermit_ atm i'd have to say "not ati"05:48
bobstroinstalling kubuntu to a removable usb drive, i changed the target for grub to (sd0,0) and install keeps crashing writing grub out. i thought i'd done that previously on a different box, but no luck twice here. any suggestions on how to complete the install?05:48
kermit_lol that is what I currently have and that is why I am asking :-)05:49
Kubuntu-Noob thanks for the tips intelikey   gonna install to hd now05:49
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intelikeykermit_ that may change  but ati is very non-free  even anti-free05:49
kermit_I currently have a 9600 w/256MB would a inexpensive FX5200 w/128 be a "ok" choice?05:49
Dr_willisbobstro,  I recall the 'ubuntu hacks' book had a chapter on doing that.. but that was for the older ubuntu. Never tried a usb drive install myself. Perhaps check the forums.05:49
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Dr_willisbobstro,  what version you trying to install?05:50
bobstroit's kubuntu 6.1005:50
stdinreldruh: try putting a username and pass then, "sudo mount -t cifs (IP-Address)/Music /home/aaron/Media/Music -o user=(USERNAME),password=(PASSWORD)"05:50
Cosmo_in the nvidia-settings it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it like I was able to do before, how do I fix this?05:50
intelikeyCosmo_ first Q. what changed ?     did you install something? remove something ?  update something ?05:51
reldruhstdin: still "mount error 13= Permission denied"05:51
bobstroDr_willis: i suppose i should wait a couple days and use the newer version, but just want to get this done.05:51
jttbobdhicks, are you getting this prompg   grub>05:51
jttwrong bob05:52
jttbobstro, are you getting this prompt   grub>05:52
stdinreldruh: hmm, try mounting to somewhere else, like /mnt05:52
bobstrojtt: me? no. all in the gui installer. it stops with something like "unable to install grub... fatal error". (i'm restarting it now to get exact details).05:52
stdinbobstro: sd0,0 ? that doesn't look right05:53
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jttbobstro, ok my mistake keep on keepin on05:53
reldruhstdin: same thing. Could it be a problem with my smb.conf file? Or something on the server itself?05:53
ferret_0568Here's a good one: http://www.kuznetsov.uklinux.net/gallery-6-penguin-coffee.php05:53
bobstrostdin: well, it defaults to (hd0,0) (from memory, re-running now) but i want it on usb drive.05:54
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dirgedollmmm penguiny05:54
Cosmo_intelikey: I'm not sure, don't think I installed anything it was fine one time then the next time I restarted it didn't have as many options05:54
intelikeyferret_0568 two is the limit.05:54
stdinreldruh: smb.conf is for the samba server, so that's not it, looks more like it the win server not letting you connect05:54
stdinbobstro: grub's different, it would be (hd1,0) or something like it05:55
ferret_0568two is the limit on what?05:55
reldruhstdin: win server? There aren't any windows computers on my network05:55
bobstroalso, i have to pop out and reformat the target (/dev/sda2) before installer will go part partition designation screen. complains no root selected, even though i have.05:55
Cosmo_intelikey: I didn't install but I did enable beryl05:55
intelikeyferret_0568 spam05:55
bobstrostdin: ah, ok. maybe i'm just being a bonehead. it doesn't give hints, and my memory is likely the part broken. lemme try hd1,005:55
intelikeyCosmo_ that could be it.05:55
ferret_0568spam? I figured people would like those05:55
stdinreldruh: replace "win" with "samba" :)05:55
dirgedollI did05:55
Cosmo_intelikey: any way to fix it?05:56
jttbobstro, are you using the latest feisty05:56
intelikey!beryl | Cosmo_05:56
reldruhstdin: ah. Why wouldn't it be letting me connect? I've set this up before. I don't know why it's not working now...05:56
ubotuCosmo_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:56
stdinbobstro: you may have to add hd1 to the /boot/grub/device.map05:56
intelikeyyou can ask in  ^05:56
jttbobstro, because that bug in partman was fixed a while back05:56
stdinreldruh: something in the servers config05:56
intelikeyCosmo_ maybe someone in  ated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ -05:56
intelikey          Help in #ubuntu-effects  ca05:56
intelikeyooops  scroll cought that one.05:57
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ferret_0568Maybe I should go into #ubuntu-offtopic and see if people like those05:57
bobstrojtt: no, edgy.05:57
jtteveryone should be downloading the  daily-live  cd's they are the RC's05:57
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Dr_willisbobstro,  im using the Feisty RC now. :)05:57
jttbobstro, ok not the same05:57
nachHi all05:57
intelikeyCosmo_  you can ask in #ubuntu-effects    was what i was trying to say.05:57
ferret_0568Feisty is very stable05:58
reldruhstdin: so I should keep playing with the config on my server?05:58
intelikeylinux in general is pretty stable05:58
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nachenyone have a msi-megabook m670 ?05:58
nachenyone have a msi-megabook m670 ?05:58
unix_infidelDr_willis: lol, you just installed the fiesty rc?05:59
Dr_willisunix_infidel,  3 days ago05:59
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Dr_willisi always seem to do it this way :)05:59
nachenyone have a msi-megabook m670 ?05:59
Dr_willisavoide the rush.05:59
unix_infidelDr_willis: you just going to apt-get dist-upgrade to the final?05:59
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apusanyone know who I should talk to about seeding the distro06:00
Dr_willisunix_infidel,  i allready have as far as i can tell. I think the repos are 'locked' with no new updates in the last day or so.06:00
intelikeynach you asked that already.   try discribing your issue and see if anyone responds.06:00
unix_infidelDr_willis: really?!06:00
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bobstrough. ok drive just dropped off. i'll try again with release of feisty in a couple of days.06:00
unix_infidelyou think? who's your sourc?E06:00
Dr_willisunix_infidel,  i THINK i heard that mentioned in #ubuntu earlier.06:00
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nachjust checking intelikey....06:00
unix_infidelDr_willis: i dont hang on your every word :P06:01
Dr_willislet me just apt-get update and see06:01
unix_infidelunlike some in here :)06:01
apusDr_willis: How do I update to the final?  I have 7.04 beta now06:01
Dr_willisapt-get update, apt-get upgrade :)06:01
unix_infideli'm almost CERTAIN that the repos will be updated tomorrow.06:01
Dr_willisthere may be a dist-update thang. Not srue. :)06:01
unix_infidelapt-get dist-upgrade06:01
Dr_willisnew updates new bugs.. and then the next day it begins again.06:02
Dr_willisso why wait! heh heh06:02
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intelikeyunix_infidel almost certain....   but probably not.06:02
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bobstroand upgrades to feisty from edgy are going to be painless, right?06:02
Dr_willisive not had a update for like a day now i think.  i tend to let it do that stuff at night.06:02
intelikeybobstro who's been propogating that lie ???06:03
Dr_willisupgrades and painless? Heh heh.. yea right06:03
unix_infidelDr_willis: apt fetched updates?06:03
nachnot but isnt really necesary for the moment bobstro06:03
Dr_willistheres a reason i always keep /home on its own hd. and do clean installs.06:03
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Dr_willisunix_infidel,   i normally check every midnight here. nothing from yesterday at least.06:03
unix_infidelDr_willis: lol, wont take but a second to do it know.06:04
nachwell gl people c u later bye06:04
Dr_willisi bet the update servers will be getting hammered tomorrow.06:04
apushow do I completely remove something that was "apt-get"ed06:04
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Dr_willisdoes it always seem that OpenOffice gets updated like every day for the first few weeks after a new release?06:04
unix_infideli got too many things to do to wait for a 300MB download to finish06:05
intelikey<nach> well graphics library people cause unique later bye    ???06:05
stdinapus: apt-get --purge remove package06:05
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TrollaxorI was referred here by RMS.06:05
unix_infidelespecially when servers are getting sucked dry.06:05
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intelikeyroot means square ?06:05
apusI've done that stdin, but when I apt-get update it tries and grab it again06:05
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intelikeystalman who ?06:06
jameswhat yo all up 206:06
jamesthis is prety boring06:06
TrollaxorIt could be any root.06:06
TrollaxorCube root, forth root...06:06
TrollaxorRadical is square root.06:06
stdinapus: that would be because something depends on it then06:06
kermit_would you guys assume that the little snags I receive while running Beryl/aiglx are because of my ati card? I have an athlon XP 1600 with 768 Ram06:06
luke__around here we use sudo06:06
intelikeygoogle rms Trollaxor06:07
kermit_with radeon 9600 256MB06:07
intelikeykermit_ i might assume it's beryl06:07
bobstroDr_willis: /home is actually an nfs mount here, so that part is no big deal. so long as i can get nis going quickly, sounds like a fresh install is the way to go.06:07
Dr_williskermit_,   the fact taht ati has 'issues' and that beryl  is a bit of a work in progress also. :)06:08
hitmanWillykermit_, ati's always been buggy on nix, plus beryl itself is a bit buggy in its own right06:08
luke__I probably missed this earlier...06:08
TrollaxorI heard that Linux is dying.06:08
luke__but does anyone know exactly when the new isos are out?06:08
Dr_willisTrollaxor,  "Tales of its death are greatly exaggerated"06:08
luke__(it's midnight on the east coast and europe now.)06:08
kermit_ok so a nvidia may not be of any help right now in your opinion?06:08
Kubuntu-Noobbetter not die06:08
bobstroTrollaxor: yes, the insurgency is having its last gasp too.06:08
apusdoes ktorrent support encryption06:08
Kubuntu-NoobI am just getting into it06:08
intelikeyTrollaxor come on you can do better than that.   if you are looking for a ban you don't have to drag it out...06:08
bobstroTrollaxor: you need to be careful where you get your 'fair and balanced' news from.06:09
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jttluke__, probably sometime tomorrow after noon  est06:09
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Search4Lancerarrgh.... Adept keeps giving me a "there was an error comitting changes" message... what do I do?06:09
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Search4Lancerit won't let me install or remove or upgrade any packages now06:09
bobstroTrollaxor: not exactly like it *could* die.06:10
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bobstrothat's the unicyclepedia i think.06:10
hitmanWillySearch4Lancer, try running sudo dpkg --configure -a from command line06:10
apuscan someone remind me how to set up universal aliases06:10
Search4LancerhitmanWilly, that sounds about right... this isn't the first time it's happened, and probably won't be the last, just couldn't remember how I fixed it before06:11
intelikeySearch4Lancer try   sudo apt-get install -f      and see what it says.   you'll either fix it or get usable error messages.06:11
luke__thanks jtt!06:11
TrollaxorWasn't Kubuntu named after Eric S. Raymond's Nigerian man-boy?06:12
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hitmanWillySearch4Lancer, it usually happens when an install crashes halfway through06:12
Search4LancerhitmanWilly, right, which is what happened sometime last week, just didn't have a need to try to fix it until now06:12
intelikeyhitmanWilly probably a lock file.  but both yours and my sujestions will at least get useful error messages if some thing is wrong.06:13
hitmanWillyintelikey, probably06:13
Search4Lancerintelikey, your suggestion worked, privoxy was the culprit06:14
apuswhen I do sudo apt-get update I see 6 "get : # "  that I want to remove06:14
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intelikeyapus edit your sources.list06:15
TrollaxorThe Linux operating system is dying because of Linus Torvalds' addiction to MAME hardware porn is ruining his marriage.06:15
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apusintelikey: how?06:15
mark_Hey is Maximillion on?06:15
intelikeyapus sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list06:15
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal06:16
nixternalahh a troll06:16
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apusintelikey: thanks it worked06:17
nixternalat least he admits he is a troll06:17
TrollaxorA troll? Where?06:17
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apuswhats the location of the file I have to edit to add aliases to bash06:17
intelikeyapus you're welcome.06:17
Search4Lancernow if only the new version of KMyMoney2 wouldn't be asking for a nonexistent package, I'd be in good shape06:17
nixternalLinux is a kernel by the way, so if you are going to troll, at least get your facts straight06:17
nixternalSearch4Lancer: I couldn't import my bank statements into KMyMoney206:18
Search4Lancernixternal: I have no intention of doing so, so, that's not really a problem06:18
nixternaland I could export my statements to quicken or msmoney06:18
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bobstrono kidding06:18
nixternalI might have to play with it some more06:18
TrollaxorThe SFPD found my hide out under the bridge.06:18
nixternalthanks Trollaxor! have a good day/night06:18
apusanyone want to help me get my sound card spdif output working06:19
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se7en~/.bashrc apus06:19
Search4LancerI'd like to try out ClearCheckbook.com, but I have yet to find a way the site is keeping itself sustainable (it's completely free, and there are no ads or anything, just a donation button), so I don't know if I want to risk using it only for it to disappear in a few months06:19
intelikeythat was one of the friendliest trolls we've had in the las hour and a half....06:19
reldruhstdin: would it matter that I installed mythtv on my server? Because samba is the newest version, my smb.conf file is 3 lines and even though I can access the share using the smb:/ protocol (without having to put in a password) no matter what I try I can't get it to mount via fstab or manually06:19
nixternalintelikey: hahaha06:19
nixternalI love when I get yelled at for feeding them, but at times I enjoy it06:20
nixternalreverse trollology06:20
stdinreldruh: I don't think that would affect it, but I can't say foe sure06:20
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apusI uncomment the 3 lines in .bashrc that link to the bash_aliases file right?06:21
reldruhstdin: could it be that the server is running dapper and my laptop is on feisty?06:21
Kubuntu-NoobAnyone know the earliest version of Kubuntu to include ndiswrapper?06:22
intelikeyapus for sound issue ?06:22
apusintelikey: no for adding aliases to bash06:22
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intelikeyyou can add them dirrectly or if you have a system wide alias file you want to sourse you can do that.06:23
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mark_BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g, does anyone know how to get it to work?06:23
stdinreldruh: it _could_ be, I have seen some people having problems with the feisty version with older versions of samba06:23
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apusan alias can be more than one line?06:23
stdinreldruh: you could try getting some help in #samba06:23
intelikeyapus example.   alias ls='/bin/ls --color=auto'06:24
the_hammeranyone here know kubuntu 7.04 beta good?06:24
ScottLij_is today release day?06:24
intelikeyapus you may want functions rather than aliases.  but yes they both can06:24
reldruhstdin: all right, I'll try it out. Thanks for your help06:24
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apusI want to use an alias called "fort" and have it do both "gfort file" and "chmod file"06:24
the_hammeri borked up my colors so thought if i changed a theme it would bounce back to normal but no the theme changed and certain things are still borked06:24
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apusoh wait! I'm thinking of a bash file06:25
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intelikeyapus try a function.   fort () { gfort $* ;chmod 755 $* }06:25
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RawSewageofficial Relase Party channel is  #ubuntu-release-party06:26
intelikeyexample only  ^06:26
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apusintelikey: where should I use that, in what file06:27
intelikeyapus ~/.bashrc   or any sourced runtime config06:27
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hitmanWillydoes anybody know anything about this new modular xorg? is ubuntu planning on including it?06:27
intelikeyhitmanWilly already been using it for a year06:28
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Kubuntu-Noobwhat is that    xorg?06:28
hitmanWillyok, seems completely transparent then06:28
intelikeymodular xorg06:28
apusintelikey: is there anything I have to do to get changes to take effect06:28
formatteris there flaccid..i want ask about kubuntu..06:28
reldruh/reldruh perks up about xorg06:29
intelikeyapus you can source the file    . ~/.bashrc06:29
flaccidformatter: sup06:29
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the_hammerok i right click on task bar and configure panel click appearance and advanced options and tint colour06:30
the_hammerand i think i touched custume colours06:30
apusdoes anyone use joe anymore?06:30
intelikeyapus i mentioned functions because you can use variables in them but not in aliases.     so multi-command aliases leave some to be desired.06:31
the_hammerdoing so i didnt change any colors where i wanted them changed06:31
intelikeyapus joe is good if you like vim06:31
the_hammerit changed in other things tho like xchat and konversation and god knows what else06:31
oem_hotspot management06:31
formatterflaccid : command for find my motorola sm56 modem..06:31
the_hammeri want it back to normal and theres no defult button06:31
reldruhthe_hammer: what colors are off?06:31
apusintelikey: thanks, I am probably going to use a makefile for the fortran stuff06:32
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the_hammeri dunno06:32
flaccidformatter: can't help you sorry. try google.06:32
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intelikeyapus by far the best idea  yes.06:32
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the_hammeri just want all defult back i changed themes thinking it would do the trick but no theme changed ya but my problem hasnt gone06:32
reldruhthe_hammer: you're trying to change something back to default but you don't know what's not at the default?06:32
hitmanWillyformatter, lsmod?06:33
the_hammeri back tracked my steps06:33
reldruhthe_hammer: the default style is polyester06:33
EndlerMost people prob just get familiar with vi/vim, because you can always count on it being on any linux/unix system you happen to find yourself on;  even tiny distros in embedded devices.06:33
the_hammeri right clicked on task bar06:33
the_hammerand went to configure panel06:33
the_hammerand all the way through to the colours06:33
reldruhthe_hammer: so it's your taskbar that isn't the default color?06:34
the_hammerno its everything else BUT06:34
the_hammermy colours here changed06:34
intelikeythe_hammer you can reset all of kde and it's apps. with minimal loss  by logging out, dropping to a console and doing   rm -r ~/.kde*     then switching back to ?dm and logging back in.06:35
intelikeythe_hammer if that's greek to you then get a second openion before trying it.06:35
reldruhthe_hammer: if it's just your colors that are off, you can go to System Settings > Appearance > Colors and I think Plastik is the default. It sounds like that's what changed. It's the only thing I know of that will change all your colors. Do you think that would work intelikey?06:36
intelikeyreldruh he can try that first.06:36
the_hammerok ill try that and logout and in and brb06:36
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intelikeyit should. reldruh   but if he has changed themes and no joy,  what i sujested is a full reset.06:38
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reldruhintelikey: wouldn't erasing ~/.kde get rid of things like contacts in KOrganizer and collections in Amarok? All settings everywhere?06:38
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the_hammerdidnt work06:38
the_hammerthis is nutrs06:38
intelikeyreldruh i said "all of kde and it's apps."06:39
the_hammerif i have to ill format and reinstall everything but man thats a pain in the arse over a simple colour prob06:39
reldruhintelikey: true06:39
reldruhthe_hammer: I hate to make you do this, but you could tell me again what the problem is? I just want to make sure that I know what it is you're trying to fix06:40
the_hammermy whole problem started because i didnt like the color of the task bar (all other colors were fine)06:40
reldruhthe_hammer: ok06:41
the_hammerso i right clicked on taskbar06:41
the_hammerconfigure panel06:41
Dr_willisEgads! you Right Clicked!06:41
the_hammeradvanced options06:41
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the_hammertint and then custumied06:41
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jza873yo whats good ever one06:42
apushow do I remove a dir with contents06:42
the_hammerand i played with the colour and applied06:42
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intelikeythe_hammer you don't.   let me repost.  (""<intelikey> the_hammer you can reset all of kde and it's apps. with minimal  loss  by logging out, dropping to a console and doing   rm -r ~/.kde*     then switching back to ?dm and logging back in.  <intelikey> the_hammer if that's greek to you then get a second openion before trying it."")    one can rm their home dir and make a new one....  just don't forget to own it.06:42
intelikeyapus rm -r06:42
the_hammereverything changed colour BUT what i wanted changed06:42
Dr_willisthat tinting for me - gave the backgroind of the  panel a tinted color/semi transparent06:43
nobody_ubuntu suckx06:43
orient2000tru kubuntu06:43
Dr_willisnobody_,  so does your... oh wait.. i better not start this...06:43
intelikeynobody_ it sure does....06:43
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jza873hay any one know a good dvd authoring program so i can make a dvd  with menus and can convert any file like .ogm06:44
apusCould not write to file /mount/data2/.Trash-1000/info/test.f90.trashinfo.??06:44
reldruhthe_hammer: I do'nt know what to tell you. I just played with it and it seems to be working fine. All my colors are still the same except for the panel06:44
the_hammerwhat kubuntu u got?06:44
reldruhthe_hammer: did you enable transparency?06:44
jza873hay i had that issues b4 with the colior problems06:44
reldruhthe_hammer: I just updated to feisty but I've done this with edgy and haven't had any problems06:45
the_hammer7.04 feighsty here06:45
jza873after i installed afterstep all my colors got screwed up06:45
intelikeyberyl by any chance ?06:51
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the_hammeri ahve that yes and kbfx06:51
jza873and buttons like on google i coulkdnt read teh font teh colors were the same as teh button06:51
the_hammerand it was a pain to set it up the way i have it06:51
the_hammernot running beyrl atm tho06:51
jza873to fix the color issue i had i just reinstalled06:51
orient2000jza873: you got dell?06:51
jza873hell no dell got issues with linux drivers06:51
jza873thats y they are stalling on the release of linux on there computers06:51
the_hammeri set a friend up with linux on a dell i can confirm the issues part06:51
orient2000what driver?06:51
jza873they will be issuing linux soon but as soon as they can find the drivers06:51
the_hammerto many to count06:51
jza873and i installed edgy on my bros computer and his was a dell and teh colors sucked right off the bat06:51
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the_hammerwell hate to do all this crap but im a gonna start from scratch and NEVER touch colours again through kmenu thingy06:51
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the_hammerbb when ever06:51
reldruhthe_hammer: I don't have any idea what caused your color problem. And I don't know why the Colors menu in System settings didn't fix it. Not related, I have a dell and the only driver issues I've had have been graphics (nvidia and easy to solve) and wireless (broadcom and I'm still working on it. It's not fixed in feisty)06:51
jza873and dont install afterstep06:51
jza873too late06:51
jza873hay any one know a good dvd authoring program so i can make a dvd  with menus and can convert any file like .ogm06:51
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codepoetHello, I've finally migrated from windows to ubuntu (feisty + beryl) - but my monitor has a horrible colour curve. I've tried nvidia-settings to correct brightness/contrast/gamma, but the settings dont seem to persist after a reboot. Is there something I can do?06:51
intelikeycan anyone tell me if that meant reload ?  "<the_hammer> well hate to do all this crap but im a gonna start from scratch..."06:51
DaSkreechJucato: Ha ha06:51
JucatoDaSkreech: hm??06:51
ferret_0568Gee, atleast Dell wants to put Linux on their computers and test Linux on them well, too!06:51
agraceycodepoet: use the auto on the maoniter itself06:51
DaSkreechA number of users ( presumably Kubuntu users ) cited the poor quality of the Adept package manager as a reason for using the apt-get package management tool instead.06:51
DaSkreechferret_0568: Whooptiedo06:51
codepoetagracey: It's not a monitor issue, its the ouput of the graphics card06:51
codepoetgray/white look the same :p06:51
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ferret_0568My NVIDIA card in my Dell laptop work fine06:51
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agraceyi was thinking it could be a combination of the two06:51
formattercodepoet : my modem isn't detected in my notebook..06:52
codepoetheh same, but it didn't work ;\06:52
codepoetformatter: buy another notebook :P06:52
JucatoDaSkreech: where's that from?06:52
DaSkreechJucato: Konsole06:52
intelikeywinmodems yuch06:52
agraceyyou have updated everything right?06:52
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Jucatohm... I think a fair number of users use aptitude as well :)06:53
intelikey!modem | formatter06:53
ubotuformatter: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto06:53
formatternotepoet : so, there no other way..06:53
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intelikeyformatter yes there are other ways.06:53
agraceyyou have updated everything right? codepoet06:53
codepoetformatter: I'm just a beginner, I spent 3 days trying to get my ATi X700 card to work with feisty + beryl, didn't get much help and couldnt get it done - so I pulled it out and bought a nVidia based card ;p06:54
codepoetagracey: yep06:54
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codepoetat least, I think I did - what did you mean by update?06:56
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DaSkreechJucato: The konsole survey results06:56
agraceycodepoet: and you have adjusted the gamma with system settings06:56
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codepoetwhere do I find the system settings for gamma?06:56
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intelikeycodepoet updated generally means     sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:57
codepoetyep i'm fully up to date in that respect :D06:57
Jucatocodepoet: System Settings -> Monitor and Display -> Color & Gamma tab06:57
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codepoetJucato: I don't appear to have the menu layout you describe, or any options that resemble "monitor and display"06:58
codepoetjust screen resolution06:59
codepoetis there a command I can enter manually?06:59
Jucatocodepoet: are you sure you are running the System Settings app?06:59
Jucatocodepoet: try Alt+F2, and the command "displayconfig"06:59
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intelikeyJucato what's the cli name of that ?07:00
Jucatointelikey: of which one?07:00
yonkeltronis there a way to setup encrypted partitions on install? debian can do it...07:00
JucatoSystem Settings = systemsettings07:00
intelikeyJucato sorry slight lag.07:00
JucatoMonitor and Display module = displayconfig07:00
orient2000I was trying to install oryginal windows in dell 10 years ago. modem, audio and video card was as one. I wonde whot they are doing now. who buys dell I ask now?07:00
codepoetJucato: I don't have that, I tried installing it just then, it says it's called "kde-guidance", but i'm running gnome07:01
codepoetwill it still work?07:01
Jucatocodepoet: ah I didn't know...07:01
codepoetone way to find out I spose ;p07:01
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Jucatoyou might want to ask in #ubuntu07:01
Jucatothis is the channel for Kubuntu, which uses KDE07:01
hitmanWillywell Dell should be getting more linux compatible soon, hopefully07:01
intelikey GNOME !    hang him.07:02
codepoetoh... shit, sorry heh - It just autojoined after I installed Konversation07:02
codepoetintelikey: Can I use beryl with KDE?07:02
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Jucatocodepoet: yes07:02
intelikeycodepoet you can07:02
hitmanWillyusing it right now07:02
intelikey!beryl | codepoet07:02
ubotucodepoet: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:02
codepoetI had no idea lol, so can i just get rid of gdm, and install kdm - or is it not as easy as that?07:03
agraceyok so don't use the monitor test07:03
hitmanWillycodepoet, kubuntu-desktop should get you everything you need07:03
intelikeycodepoet i wouldn't get rid of gdm for kdm  but you probably want to install kde07:03
underdog5004codepoet, unless you've got a bunch of data/personalizations, it'll be easier to clean install kubuntu, IMHO07:03
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Jucatocodepoet: to explain intelikey's statement, gdm/kdm are the Display Managers, they handle the login screen and sessions.07:04
Jucatogdm is not GNOME itself, nor is kdm KDE itself.07:04
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JucatoDaSkreech: easy on the /media :)07:05
intelikeyhitmanWilly it's true that multiple *buntu-desktop's are not supposed to cause issues.    but generally i sujest install the other meta packages   gnome  kde  ....07:05
formattercodepoet : where i want get kubuntu software included with lib that needed07:05
EndlerYou still can't shutdown gnome directly when using KDM, can you?  You have to logout back the the KDM menu, and shutdown from there last I used it.07:05
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DaSkreechJucato: Love this song :)07:05
agraceydoes anybody know when ubuntustudio is coming out07:05
DaSkreechEndler: Eh?07:05
Jucatoagracey: you'd have to ask the ubuntustudio guys07:05
leafwany clues why since yesterday feisty doesn't load the flgrx driver? No accel display anymore07:05
DaSkreechagracey: When it's 3 months from being finished :)07:05
codepoetfair enough - so going by that, what would you recommend I do? Clean install of kubuntu (ie: erase/start over) or optionB?07:05
hitmanWillyintelikey, that works too, just never had a problem with multiple -desktops myself07:05
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Jucatocodepoet: it really depends if you want/like to use KDE over GNOME.07:06
intelikeyhitmanWilly defaults get over written when you install another *buntu-desktop       like i said 'it's not supposed to cause issues'07:06
hitmanWillyintelikey, got it07:06
codepoetJucato: In your oppinion, Is it that much "better" / worth the effort?07:06
EndlerWhen I've had both gnome and KDE installed before, and used KDM as the login manager, I'd only get the logout option in gnome, not the shutdown option, unless I changed to GDM, then I could log out directly from either.07:07
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Jucatocodepoet: it's a personal thing. you should decided yourself. (of course, being a KDE user, I'd be biased and say using KDE is worth it :P )07:07
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pollyoI can not seem to install f-prot07:08
intelikeycodepoet gnome seems smoother   kde seems a lot more flexable.    depends on what you want.     i personally use blackbox rather than either.07:08
hitmanWillycodepoet, there's people who swear by every different desktop/wm out there07:08
pollyoIt doesn't like my system.07:08
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pollyointelikey: I'm impressed with gnome.07:08
intelikeycodepoet if you like to right click things to configure them.  by all means install kde.07:08
codepoethaha, I dunno man. It took me ages (plus a new graphics card!) to get to this point, and I got rid of my windows installation for it. I'm afraid of spending another day trying to get kubuntu up to this point07:08
pollyointelikey: Though I like some of the bells and whistles that kde has.07:08
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intelikeypollyo like i said.  i use blackbox     (when i start a gui)07:09
hitmanWillycodepoet, personally, i like kde with fluxbox as a close second07:09
Jucatocodepoet: then go with what you have for now and just decide later07:09
codepoetlol so many choices it seems, maybe i'll wait till I get used to the "feel" of linux before trying different display managers07:10
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codepoet...or whatever they're called07:10
intelikeycodepoet just use xfce4   :)07:10
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Jucatocodepoet: you're confusing display managers with desktop environments :)07:10
underdog5004imo, the "feel" of linux is largely dependant on the display manager07:10
codepoetJucato: I just used the wrong word heh07:10
DaSkreechJucato: I swear at KDE :)07:10
JucatoDaSkreech: I swore at GNOME months ago :)07:10
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underdog5004imo, the "feel" of linux is largely dependant on the desktop environment07:11
Jucatointelikey: I thought you swear at the kernel? :D07:11
ferret_0568Ah, you need to use Gaim instead of Kopete, and BasKet07:11
DaSkreechJucato: I normally can't breathe after shouting at Gnome07:11
DaSkreechunderdog5004: really?07:11
hitmanWillysame here07:11
intelikeyJucato actually i try to "sware not at all..."07:11
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DaSkreechunderdog5004: and if you don't run a desktop?07:11
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underdog5004DaSkreech, yep07:11
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DaSkreechJucato: Hmm?07:12
codepoetunrelated question, are there no Ops in this channel? This is my first time using Konversation (used to mIRC) - everyone has the same symbol beside their nick07:12
underdog5004DaSkreech, I use screen in terminals, for a rudimentary window manager/environment07:12
DaSkreechcodepoet: Shhhhh07:12
intelikeyJucato if you leave i'm going too.   these folks will have to depend on the hit man.07:12
JucatoDaSkreech: ferret_0568's issues with Kopete seem to be AIM-related, if not Kubuntu-specific07:12
DaSkreechthey are watching07:12
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DaSkreechJucato: Ah yeah I nearly gave up on it till they fixed it07:13
DaSkreech I mostly use ICQ07:13
underdog5004DaSkreech, although I do like the terminal, I don't know too much yet.07:13
Jucatocodepoet: what symbols? you can check what those symbols mean in Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Nicklist Themes and hover your mouse over the symbols07:13
DaSkreechunderdog5004: So what would you call the "feel" ?07:13
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DaSkreechJucato: Probably the default grey square07:14
underdog5004DaSkreech, for me, it would be the ease-of-use, although feature play a role as well...07:14
codepoethah ok so everyones a "normal user" then (square + red)07:14
DaSkreechunderdog5004: Oh then yes :) GUI's help07:14
Jucatocodepoet: you'd probably want to use the Square Theme in that list... gives you more descriptive symbols07:15
Jucato(O, A, V, etc)07:15
underdog5004for instance, my first experience with linux was SuSE 10.0, which used KDE. The usability just about killed me...I loved it. GNOME just doesn't compare, for me07:15
intelikeycodepoet ops don't stay oped in here...  they just go +o to ban ju and back to -o07:15
hitmanWillycodepoet, normally the ops on this channel don't go to op status unless they need to do something, well, op like :)07:15
codepoetJucato: Got it, thanks for that! now everyone's a grey box ;p07:15
codepoethah nice, undercover then07:16
pollyounderdog5004: I'm somewhat new to this stuff can you explain what usability is missing as you see it?07:16
JucatoDaSkreech: seems like he was using the Default Theme (4 boxes w/ different colors) since he installed Konversation on Ubuntu07:16
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codepoetyup, that was it07:17
intelikeyis it the ipv6 of the irc world ?07:17
Jucatointelikey: it's teh ipv6 of the interface world07:17
underdog5004pollyo, sorry, I can't really, since I don't have a GNOME environment in front of me. sorry!07:17
underdog5004Jucato, I suspect usability is largely determined by the user07:18
intelikeyJucato heh looked more authentic uncorrected   lol07:18
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ferret_0568How do u know my Kopete issues are mostly AIM related?07:18
Jucatoferret_0568: you said so yesterday07:18
intelikeywhy do we type teh anyway.  that's the dumbest typo,  and almost everyone does it at some point  ???07:19
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Jucatoit's teh l33t :)07:19
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hitmanWillyintelikey, so is pwn07:19
intelikeyyeah i know.     like i said  "dumbest typo"07:19
mackymanmorning everyone!07:19
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Jucatoplay nice everyone :D07:20
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underdog5004adios, Jucato07:20
intelikeyoh well.  jucato is leaving. hitmanWilly it's all yours.07:20
hitmanWillyi guarantee "pwnage" started as a typo somewhere07:20
pollyoSo gaim is switching over to pidgin.07:20
intelikeyi'm left07:20
hitmanWillyintelikey, ok, take care07:20
intelikeyi mean i'm went.07:20
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mackymansleep well Jucato07:20
intelikeyok. you too.07:21
crazy_penguinGood morning!07:21
dsmithhmmm hibernation dont work07:21
dsmithooh well07:21
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hitmanWillydsmith, do you have acpi enabled?07:21
dsmithnot sure07:22
hitmanWillydsmith lsmod | grep acpi07:23
dsmithdsmith@dsmith-laptop:~$ acpi -v07:24
dsmithacpi 0.0907:24
pollyoDo the different colors in the list of names mean anything?07:24
Jucatopollyo: nope07:24
dsmithsony_acpi               6412  007:24
Jucatooh in the nicklist?07:24
dsmithpcc_acpi               14080  007:24
dsmithdev_acpi               12292  007:24
dsmithasus_acpi              17688  007:24
Jucato!paste | dsmith07:24
ubotudsmith: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:24
hitmanWillydsmith, sounds like its loaded, hmmm07:24
pollyoJucato: Yes.07:24
hitmanWillydsmith, might be a mobo compatibility issue07:24
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Jucatopollyo: hm... I think one stands for regular/normal/active users, while the faded color stands for /away users07:25
pollyoJucato: I noticed when I start in KDE they are the same color and in Gnome they have different colors.07:25
dsmithim not too worried about it07:25
Jucatopollyo: that depends on the IRC client07:25
dsmithi will try again later07:25
dsmithit shutsdown and all07:25
DaSkreechnixternal: getting ready to change it? :)07:25
dsmithbut when I come back online07:25
dsmithit starst and hangs07:25
pollyoJucato: Same program Gaim.  Is it just a front end for another program?07:25
Jucatopollyo: GAIM on KDE and GAIM on GNOME? just the same.07:26
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hitmanWillypollyo, no, Gaim is Gaim07:26
hitmanWillypollyo, afaik07:26
pollyoI start Gaim in KDE and no colors for the list of people in room.  When I start Gaim in Gnome I get a list of colors for the names int he room.07:27
codepoetJucato: I think I found the solution, apparently if I run 'nvidia-settings -l' instead of just 'nvidia-settings', it'll load the saved settings and apply them - so I just gotta find a way to autorun that command on each logon07:27
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hitmanWillycodepoet, kde?07:27
Jucatocodepoet: hm.. that shouldn't be happening though...07:27
hitmanWillycodepoet, oh, wait, never mind...07:27
Jucatoanyway... I'm off07:27
codepoetheh np, thanks07:28
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codepoetgonna try something, bbl07:29
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Rictoo|SLPGuys, I compiled somehting from source (amsn)07:30
Rictoo|SLPHow do i uninstall it? =/07:30
Rictoo|SLP(I used make install)07:30
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hitmanWillyRictoo|SLP, try make clean07:30
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Rictoo|SLPThat's enough? =/07:31
DaSkreechI see you07:31
hitmanWillyRictoo|SLP, iirc, that should remove it07:31
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Rictoo|SLPrictoo@rictoo-desktop:~/Desktop/aMSNp/msn$ make clean07:31
Rictoo|SLPmake: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.07:31
DaSkreechRictoo|SLP: make uninstall07:31
Tm_TRictoo|SLP: "sudo make uninstall" :-p07:31
Rictoo|SLPmake: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.07:32
DaSkreechDShepherd: I see you07:32
DShepherdsudo make && sudo make uninstall?07:32
hitmanWillyRictoo|SLP, that means you probably have to remove it manually07:32
DaSkreechRictoo|SLP: next time use apt-get ?07:32
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Rictoo|SLPhitmanWilly: How? :OOOOOO07:32
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DaSkreechRictoo|SLP: did you specify an flags when you did configure ?07:33
hitmanWillyRictoo|SLP, find out where it put the files and rm them is the only way i know of07:33
Rictoo|SLP :(07:33
DShepherdDaSkreech, have you tried sudo make && sudo make uninstall?07:34
DaSkreechDShepherd: Wrong yout07:34
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Rictoo|SLPwhy SUDO make?07:34
DShepherdmake , sudo make... watever works07:35
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hitmanWillyRictoo|SLP, sudo's not really required for just a make07:35
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Rictoo|SLPmake clean should completely uninstall it?07:37
Rictoo|SLPI don't think so...07:37
hitmanWillyRictoo|SLP, sorry, that wipes the compiled files from the src directory07:37
hitmanWillyRictoo|SLP, haven't compiled anything in a while07:38
Rictoo|SLPOh =p07:38
hitmanWillyRictoo|SLP, and its kinda late here07:38
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DaSkreechRictoo|SLP: have you tried DShepherd's suggestion07:42
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DaSkreechDShepherd: #ubuntu-release-party07:42
Rictoo|SLPthere is no maek uninstal07:42
Rictoo|SLPoh well, im doing it manually =p07:42
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DShepherdDaSkreech, already there..07:42
DaSkreechHow many nicks?07:42
DShepherd97 at the moment07:43
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the_hammerback to the starting line eh07:48
the_hammerlife is grand isnt it?07:48
Melchiorrethe_hammer: sure is...07:49
DaSkreechRictoo|SLP: Now Sudo apt-get install amsn :)07:49
the_hammerjust had to reinstall kubuntu 7.0407:49
the_hammersucks heh all that cuz i screwed my colors up07:49
Melchiorrethe_hammer: couldn't you just reset them?07:50
the_hammertried for an hour07:50
the_hammerthought changing themes would cure it all but of course not07:51
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ferret_0568Uh, you could have deleted some files starting with a dot in your home directory (a folder in windows is a directory in Linux)07:51
Melchiorrethe_hammer: didn't the "default" button work either?07:51
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apushow do I empty the recycler folder of a mounte drive07:53
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the_hammernope i tried everything even changed themes07:56
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pollyoIs there an alternate port for webservers?07:57
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Melchiorrepollyo:  there's the secure port07:59
Melchiorrealthough you can really use any port you want07:59
Melchiorreyou just type http://url:port/ and it'll use any port08:00
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pollyoMelchiorre: Does the webbrowser simply default to port 80 or will it try an alternate port if that is not open?08:01
MelchiorreI think it just defaults to port 8008:01
Melchiorreor 441(?) if it's an https://08:02
Melchiorremaybe it's 445...08:02
pipboy_hi when will be the feisty fawn released? it should be already released... is there any delay?08:03
ScottKIt just tries 80 unless you tell it differeent08:03
Cugelpipboy: I was wondering about that too, and now that Europe is waking up the questions will start flowing in :-)08:03
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CugelI guess there was a delay. There always is.08:04
BaudThiefis there a way to put "shortcut icons" to mounted drives on the desktop?08:04
Cugelbaud: yes, just create a link to the drive there.08:04
CugelSo, a link to /media/ipod for example.08:04
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MelchiorreBaudThief: do you mean mounted partitions or external drives?08:05
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Melchiorrebecause external drives, like ipods usually put a shortcut automatically...08:05
CugelTrue, that.08:06
BaudThiefMelchiorre: I added a couple of NTFS drives into fstab, they're mounted but no icons appeared on my desktop (works through the shell though)08:06
ScottKpipboy_: If you want Feisty, just dist upgrade.  What's in the repos is what they're spinning the ISOs with.08:06
MelchiorreBaudThief: cool. in that case do what Cugel said.. :-)08:06
BaudThiefoh I should mention this is gnome and not kde, but this channel seems so much friendlier ;\08:06
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ScottKBaudThief: How you'd do it is different between KDE and Gnome.08:07
ScottKMaybe apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and ask again ;-)08:07
MelchiorreScottK: HAHAHA08:08
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MelchiorreBaudThief: you should be able to right click just drag the icon in nautilus to your desktop and select create shortcut, but really I have no idea...08:08
nixternalhahahahah! that rocks08:09
nixternalBaudThief: you are definitely a classic with that line man!! my new hero!08:09
Ahmuckhow do i reset root password ?08:10
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nixternalreset it or disable it?08:10
MelchiorreAhmuck: are you a sudoer? if so, just change your own password ;-)08:10
nixternalto reset08:10
Ahmuckya, well, i forgot08:10
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/08:11
Ahmucki need to reset it08:11
Ahmuckiirc, you can boot from cd and do it08:11
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MelchiorreAhmuck: boot in recovery mode (without a cd) and it'll put you right into a root console...08:12
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pollyowould appache2 show up if I typed top -u root08:13
tinyxhey sexy peoples.08:13
tinyxIs it ok to just chat here, or is there another channel for that?08:14
underdog5004pollyo, I don't think so...unless you installed it while logged in as root08:14
pollyounderdog5004: Who does it run as?08:14
underdog5004pollyo, h/o, lemme check my server08:14
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AhmuckMelchiorre: thx08:16
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underdog5004pollyo, I did top | grep apache2, and it looks like www-data is the user that started the process...08:16
underdog5004www-data isn't a persons profile, just something to make sure the process stays alive.08:17
pollyounderdog5004: Ok Thank you.08:17
underdog5004pollyo, np08:17
underdog5004so...anyone tried out jinzora? I really like it. It's a program used to stream media08:18
underdog5004anyone know anything about converting bin/cue files into avi without burning them to disk and re-ripping?08:21
pollyoWhat packages do you need to start apache2?08:22
pollyoI keep getting a fail when I go to start it.08:22
pollyoUnpacking apache2 (from .../apache2_2.2.3-3.2build1_all.deb)08:22
pollyoDo I need anything more?08:22
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pollyosudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start08:23
pollyo [fail] 08:23
reldruhif I have a broadcom wireless card, is ndiswrapper or the firmware-cutter the preferred method of getting it to work?08:23
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Melchiorrepollyo: do you have apache2-common installed?08:24
Melchiorrepollyo: or apache2.2-common in your case...08:24
underdog5004pollyo, are you following a guide or just your gut?08:24
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pollyounderdog5004: I installed it on my one machine no problems and no guides.  I'm working on my uncles computer right now.  Not at the keyboard.08:26
pollyounderdog5004: I should say remote.08:27
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underdog5004pollyo, lol, remember not to do sudo ifdown eth008:27
underdog5004I did that once...only once08:27
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Melchiorrereldruh: I don't know anything about the firmware cutter, but I've used ndiswrapper and didn't have many problems with it...08:27
DShepherdbedtime for me DaSkreech . I pet the fawn in the morning chao!08:28
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pollyounderdog5004: Is there a log file that would tell me why it failed?08:28
reldruhMelchiorre: when I use ndiswrapper and tell the wireless to be on at boot I have massive problems. Did you encounter and solve those by any chance? Not everything will load, especially samba shares and it throws off the entire boot process.08:28
underdog5004pollyo, what failed? the install of apache?08:29
pollyoFound it.08:29
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pollyounderdog5004: No the starting of it. Found the log file though.08:29
Melchiorrepollyo: try running 'sudo apt-get install apache2.2' and see if it finds any more packages that need installing08:29
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pollyoNo idea what it means though...08:30
underdog5004anyone know when feisty is released? I know it's tomorrow, but what time? I wanna be one of the first seeders, and I need the torrent...08:30
pollyopreconfiguration failed08:30
underdog5004pollyo, look into the config file for apache08:30
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underdog5004there may be something in there...08:30
pollyoCouldn't create a Thread Safe Pollset08:30
underdog5004lol, no idea, sorry08:30
pollyounderdog5004: I'll do a little searching on it.08:30
underdog5004I'm going to go pee right now...brb08:31
Melchiorrereldruh: I always thought those problems were caused by KDE/Ubuntu not the drivers... It seemed to connect at startup when I used the 'Network Settings' configuration in system settings...08:31
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reldruhMelchiorre: i know it's not Kubuntu, a different card in the same model of laptop works perfectly (it's an intel card). I guess I'll try ndiswrapper again08:32
underdog5004k, I'm back08:32
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Melchiorrereldruh: good luck!08:33
reldruhMelchiorre: thanks :-)08:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:34
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harmentali have been using feisty for some time now.....08:36
harmentalhow can i upgrade to the 'clean' release?08:36
ScottKharmental: If you have updated from the repositories, then you have it.08:37
underdog5004anyone know when feisty is released? I know it's tomorrow, but what time? I wanna be one of the first seeders, and I need the torrent...08:38
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harmentalScottK: all my repos still say 'edgy'......08:39
harmentalshall i change that?08:39
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ScottKHow did you install Feisty?08:39
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Melchiorreunderdog5004: it was supposed to be released today, and I don't think anyone knows exactly when...08:40
harmentali add deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse08:41
underdog5004Melchiorre, bummer...ok08:41
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ScottKThat's still Edgy.  I thought you said Feisty?08:41
dettoaltrimentiis there an RSS reader for the terminal?08:41
arthuranyone know when feisty is coming08:42
arthurI need to got o sleep and I want to upgrade over night08:42
harmentalthats was the howto instructions to test feisty....08:42
arthurit's 2:20am here08:42
ScottKYou can dist upgrade now.  What's in the repos is what they are spinning the ISOs for08:42
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ScottKharmental: Can you pastebin your sources.list for me?08:42
Melchiorredettoaltrimenti: raggle08:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:43
harmentalScottK: yeap.....wait a sec....08:43
harmentalScottK: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/44766208:45
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ScottKand if you type less /etc/lsb-release in a Konsole, does it say Edgy or Feisty?08:46
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harmentalUbuntu 7.04 feisty (development branch)08:47
pacmananyone know anything about being able to interface my mp3 player with kubuntu?08:47
ScottKharmental: OK.08:48
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arthurpacman, amarok usually recognizes all mp3 players08:48
pacmanI'm unable to add/delete files from the mp3 player now08:49
pacmanI used to be able to, then it stopped allowing me...but the permissions are set up correct08:49
ScottKharmental: What I'd do in your situation is edit sources.list and change every place in the Ubuntu repositories that it says edgy with feisty, comment out the non-ubuntu repositories, and then apt-get update and aptitude dist-upgreade08:49
ScottKharmental: type there...08:49
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psb154pacman you haven't accidentally put the lock on your mp3 player by any chance :-)08:50
pacmanno, I checked that08:50
harmentalScottK: ok...ill try that....08:50
ScottKharmental: The last should be aptitude dist-upgrade08:50
pollyoI suppose there is no way around an isp blocking a port.08:50
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underdog5004pollyo, tunneling08:51
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underdog5004basically, route traffic that's going through one port into another08:51
Melchiorrepacman: will files not delete in konqueror or Amarok?08:51
underdog5004I'm not sure if tunneling is the right word08:51
pacmanI haven't tried it in Amarok08:52
pollyounderdog5004: tunneling?08:52
reldruhout of curiosity, has anybody here heard anything substantial about better broadcom wireless support in kernel 2.6.21?08:52
pacmanbut it's not working well with konqueror anymore08:52
underdog5004yeah...not quite sure...08:52
pollyounderdog5004: I'll have to look that one up.08:52
underdog5004reldruh, nope, but I do know that Feisty will have much better wireless support, so they may be using .2108:52
pacmandon't have amarok...downloading now08:52
underdog5004pollyo, alright. If you figure it out, gimme a ring...my isp is blocking port 8008:53
Melchiorrepacman: could be because your trash bin is full... try shift deleting something and see if it works...08:53
reldruhunderdog5004: I'm on feisty right now. It's kernel 2.6.20-15 and still bad with broadcom. I was wondering if upgrading the kernel to 2.6.21 might help08:53
apusunderdog5004: they cant block port 8008:53
pollyounderdog5004: Same with my uncles cable co.08:53
pacmantrying that now Mel08:53
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pacmanmel...didn't make a difference :(08:54
underdog5004apus, uh...I can't access my page from outside my LAN...my router is all set to forward any traffic on port 80 to my server, my server loads up pages all day from within the lan...I think they're blocking it...08:54
underdog5004go to to check it out08:55
apuscan you go to google.com?08:55
underdog5004apus, whoops, looks like I made a fool of myself again...08:55
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underdog5004incidentally, what happens when someone goes to ?08:56
underdog5004(that's a hint to try it!)08:56
pollyoapus: Why can't they block port 80?08:56
Melchiorrepacman: I guess you've tried 'sudo rm'ing something in a console?08:57
apuspollyo: if they block port 80 you couldn't use the internet ie http:08:57
apusunderdog5004: nothing happens when I type in the ip08:57
pacmanonce or twice mel08:57
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apusunderdog5004: sounds like a forwarding issue, but its not your isp08:57
pablethello, can anyone help me??08:57
pollyoapus: What do they do block it in reverse?  Only open it for a specific amount of time when one makes a request?08:58
apuspollyo: They dont block it, most isps don't block any ports08:58
Melchiorrepablet: ask away...08:58
pollyoapus:RCN blocks port 80 they claim.08:58
sonoftheclayrhello pablet what seems to be your problem?08:58
underdog5004apus, except bt ports08:58
pabletI want to reset fstab to default config in order to have all pendrives automounted in directories without having to specify the directory08:58
underdog5004at least, the standard ones...08:59
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apusthere is a possibility they are using a proxy08:59
pollyoapus: I'm just happy my cable co. doesn't I would be rather upset if they did considering what they charge.08:59
apusthere should be a way around it tho, have you tried calling them?08:59
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pabletso I want to reset to default settings and get USBs mounted automatically on directories created with the name of the device08:59
Melchiorrepacman: bugger.... lets hope Amarok works!08:59
pollyoapus: Additional charge on my uncles part just for a port.09:00
apuspollyo: where do you live?09:00
pollyoapus: PA, USA09:00
underdog5004apus, meh, I don't want them to know I've got a server w/ a web-server on it...it probably violates my ToS09:00
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pollyoapus: He (my uncles) went with www.rcn.com for cable and internet.09:00
underdog5004Suddenlink (my ISP) really sucks09:00
pabletanyone can help me please?09:01
apusunderdog5004: do they give you a static ip?09:01
underdog5004apus, nope09:01
apusunderdog5004: then that would indicate you are right, they dont want you hosting09:01
pacmanmel, what should my mount and dismount stuff be on amarok?  I tried 'mount sdb1' but that didn't seem to work09:01
Melchiorrepablet: can you paste your current fstab into pastebin?09:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:01
apusunderdog5004: they probably block incomming requests09:01
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pabletwait please09:02
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Melchiorrepacman: pull the disconnect and reconnect the mp3 player from your computer and Amarok should detect it automatically...09:02
apusthe amount of things isps are doing now adays is horrible09:03
pollyoapus: I'll have to suggest my uncle call them and explain that he will be moving to another co. if they can not unblock 8009:03
pacmanamarok didn't, but konquerer did, as per normal09:03
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apuspollyo: have you tried dyndns09:03
apusor try to set up a proxy09:03
pabletI`ve posted /etc/fstab09:03
pollyoapus: Why should they block it?  They claim they are charging you so you can have the bandwith then they do not want you to use it. lol09:03
pollyoapus: He is setup on it.09:04
pabletI changed this file in order to mount usbs in /mnt/sda1 and /mnt/sdb109:04
pollyoapus: So is my machine.09:04
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pabletbut I want to restore to default behaviour09:04
apuspollyo: exactly pollyo they advertise the bandwidth they have for your whole node09:04
Melchiorrepablet: can you paste the link here?09:04
apuspollyo: but no one can actually get that speed , if they did no one else would get any09:04
pabletMelchiorre: sorry09:05
Melchiorrepablet: thanks09:05
apuspollyo: and now they packet shape most torrets, screwing people that use them for legit reasons09:05
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pacmanmel, it's still not seeing it in amarok09:06
pollyoapus: packet shape?09:06
apuspollyo: p2p packets from torrents get lower bandwidth, to get around it you can encrypt it, but that slows it down and limits connections09:07
apuspollyo: some isps are slowing down ALL encrypted packet, just to make sure they get the p2p09:07
Melchiorrepacman: what if you go to settings->configure Amarok-> media devices ->autodetect devices?09:07
apusthats like bombing a school with 1 enemy inside09:07
pollyoapus: Great.  I just started to mess around with democracytv and it uses torrents.09:07
pollyoapus: Does that depend on the isp?09:08
apuspollyo: yeah, some wreck torrents09:08
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pacmanmel, did that...waiting on mp3 player to restart before hooking back up09:08
Melchiorrepablet: are all the sda's and sdb's pendrives? or do you also have other partitions / drives mounted in /media/sda1?09:09
T0uCHi got a graphic card problem... i tried earlier to install nvidia driver and when i reboot the xorg session nothing was workin... so i reset the x session to normal and now i am wondering...... im in the monitor and display option and i see vesa has my graphic card...in configure... there is my graphic but it doesnt seem to be installed.... if i click to install will it work properly or will it crashed like before??09:09
Melchiorrepacman: ok09:09
pollyoapus: Microsoft is working on some type of vpn tunnelling that will go through anything for vista.09:09
apuspollyo: vpns already exist09:09
underdog5004apus, I'm pretty sure that my isp is shaping as well...when I ran unencrypted bt, I had bad speed, when I plaintext encrypted, I would get slightly better speed, and when I RC4'ed, I got crap speed...when I say speed, I mean for all the computers on my LAN09:10
pacmanstill nothing mel09:10
pollyoapus: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=900867909:10
pacmanmel: when I went to configure, should I have changed anything under plugin?09:10
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underdog5004alrighty, I'm going to bed09:11
pollyoapus: VPN from anywhere on the Internet without concern for typical port blocking issues.09:11
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apuspollyo: "The protocol, however, is only for remote access and will not support site-to-site VPN tunnels."09:12
Melchiorrepacman: umm, try adding a device and putting your mp3 players mount point in (eg /media/MP3 Player)09:12
apusits so MS can remote to you via VPN and support your computer and fix it for you, without worrying about what all your router and isp blocked09:12
Melchiorrepablet: are all the sda's and sdb's pendrives? or do you also have other partitions / drives mounted in /media/sda1?09:12
pollyoapus: You mean spy on you when they want. <grin>09:13
pacmanwhat should the mount command be?09:13
apuspollyo: Im not sure much is too all the conspiracy theorys about ms09:13
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pollyoapus: I'm not either and I do not want to get to much off topic.09:14
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Melchiorrepacman: just the path to where the player is mounted (so browse to it in konqueror and copy the url)09:14
Melchiorrepacman: it's not a mount comman, just the path to where it's mounted09:15
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pacmanmel: system:/media/sdb1 ?09:16
pacmanor just /media/sdb109:16
_max_its the 19th.. c'mon already =(09:16
Melchiorrepacman: just /media/sdb109:16
hagabakahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades#head-6146e7b1dd7a50f5029fd0704e38cad9420c000a does this mean I shouldn't have had edgy-updates enabled before?09:16
pabletMelchiorre: (sorry I was out for a moment).....they are generally pendrives or USB external HDs09:16
pacmanokay, I'm in09:18
pacmanI just deleted all the music (I'll add more later) do I just click disconnect, and I'm done?09:18
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Melchiorrepablet: that's cool... replace your fstab with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16364/  I've just commented out your removable drives. so with that file, it should be returned to normal, but if it's not, you can just uncomment the changes.09:19
Melchiorrepacman: yep. But you'll also need to unmount it as you would normally...09:19
pacmanwhat's the unmount path?09:20
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Melchiorrepacman: no idea, I don't use it, but 'umount /media/sdb1' might work09:22
pacmancommand failed09:22
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pabletMelchiorre: hahaha, I didn know that there was no need to declare them in fstab, I just thought that there was a "special value" in mountpoint in order to get them mounted in a created folder09:23
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flaccidwhats the go with the new UUID fstab entries. whats it for?09:24
Jiraiyahello have problems with epsxe controller i used xjoypad but only the buttons works09:25
pabletMelchiorre: hey, it seems to work well, I'm gonna give a try today with many pendrives connected (because I configured these drives manually because they were giving me any problem with more than one of them connected)09:25
Jucato!uuid | flaccid09:25
ubotuflaccid: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)09:25
pabletMelchiorre: probably because of any buggy kernel version or something like this09:26
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flaccidthanks Jucy09:26
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pabletMelchiorre: hey, I have to leave.....thanks for your help!!!!!09:28
pabletMelchiorre: thanks again!! c ya!!!09:29
Jiraiyahello im a noob at xjoypad nid little help09:29
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Jiraiyamy buttons works but my axe wont09:29
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flaccidi don't see how UUID makes our life simpler but anyway.09:30
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xazmi serve una mano....09:32
Jucatoflaccid: it would mean that even if you switched your HDD's around, as long as they are referrenced by UUID in fstab, then you don't have to worry about anything09:32
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jbrouhardOkay.. i'm running fiesty right now09:35
flaccidJucato: true. i guess im used to bios identifiers for hard disks like on bsd unix.09:35
jbrouhardbut i ahve to ask.. why is gaim on 1.2.beta ?09:35
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pollyojbrouhard: the website says 1.5009:37
jbrouhardgaim.sf.net says 1.50. yes09:37
jbrouhardbut I ran apt-cache show gaim09:37
jbrouhardand it says09:37
jbrouhardOH, nevermind09:37
jbrouhardI read it wrong09:37
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rubsodudez where is my kubuntu feisty fawn?09:38
khatahnhi, what text editor should i use to edit a huge text file? something that doesn't try to load everything in memory at once09:39
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duck_when i write files to my floppy drive with a disk in, it just puts the files in a folder labeled floppy0, how do i actually add the files to the disk?09:39
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apusdoes ktorrent support encryption09:40
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mackymanduck_: you can use terminal by doing following:                 cat /path/to/file > /dev/fd009:42
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mackymancat /path/to/file > /dev/fd/009:42
Jucatoduck_: you mean in /media/floppy0?09:44
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duck_Jucato yes09:44
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Jucatoduck_: then that's your floppy disk09:44
Jucatoit's the folder/location in the Linux filesystem for your floopy disk09:45
duck_Jucato: but when i copy files into that, it does't write them to the disk, it just sits there...09:45
Jucatohow do you check if it's written to the disk or not?09:45
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duck_i put it in another computer to see if the files are there09:46
Jucatoah. hm...09:46
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duck_lol, it's okay09:46
apusthere are over 1k people in #ubuntu09:47
duck_i was feeling very nostalgic tonight, and this is my only computer with a floppy drive on it09:47
duck_so i decided to get one of my older, junkier computers and put Windows 3.1 on it09:47
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pollyoDo they have anything in the repositories to create webpages?09:50
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mackymanduck_: didn't cat /path/to/file > /dev/fd/0 work?09:50
mackymanpollyo: Quanta09:50
mackymanA really neat program =) Using it everyday as a Webdevel09:51
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pollyomackyman: That something for your average joe?  I'm not a big time web developer? (looking it up now)09:51
mackymanWhat do you want it to d009:52
mackymanGui drag and drop elements? Or just syntax highlightning?09:52
mackymanIn anycase, it have both09:52
pollyomackyman: I'll start with drag and drop.09:52
pollyomackyman: If it allows me to automatically update a site from within the software that would be great.09:53
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Jucatotry Nvu. Quanta isn't really a full WYSIWYG editor09:53
mackymanpollyo: Yep, it can do that09:54
Jucatopollyo: oh in that case, you'd be better off with Quanta09:54
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JucatoQuanta + KIO09:54
pollyoJucato: Is Nvu in the repos?09:54
Goliath23when is the release, when is the release? are we there yet?! why is ubuntu.com down? :)09:54
pollyoJucato: Is KIO another package?09:54
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mackymanJucato: Nvu... Hmmm. I'll check that one out?09:54
Jucatopollyo: no KIO is not a separate package. it's built into KDE09:55
pollyoInstalling quanta now.09:55
pollyoDidn't take note of Nvu in the repos.09:55
Jucatonvu is in the repos09:55
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pollyoJucato: I must have mistyped ... I'll check again in a min.09:56
Jucatopollyo: kio allows you to access different types of filesystems, both local (on your pc) and remote ("out there") very transparently, as if you were accessing them locally09:56
Jucatopollyo: examples would be sftp:/, ftp:/, http:/, media:/, remote:/, etc.09:57
pollyoJucato: Wow.09:57
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pollyoJucato: That makes things easy.09:57
mackymanpollyo: I have used it that way, and it works great at that09:57
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Jucatoso basically, you can open your .html file (in your remote server/web space) in Kate or Quanta and edit it from those apps. when you save, it saves to the remote server/web space.09:58
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pollyoJucato: Very nice.09:58
Jucatounfortuntely, I don't think Nvu will let you do that, since it's not a KDE app09:58
JucatoQuanta (and Kate) can, but Quanta isn't very drag-n-drop-ish09:59
emonkey-pisn't quanta a qt thml dev app?09:59
lzaphi guys, is IT out? :-D09:59
pollyoJucato: I'm not coming up with "nvu" in the repos.09:59
Riddelllzap: see topic09:59
lzapRiddell: I see, very exact... :-D10:00
Jucatopollyo: hm... hold on10:00
apusfor ktorrent I can use any port?10:00
Jucatopollyo: are you on feisty already?10:00
lzapapus: higher than 102410:00
apusdang it10:01
pollyoJucato: Yes10:01
apuslzap: i should change it from default tho?10:01
Jucatopollyo: strange, seems like nvu's not here as well10:01
lzapapus: I suggest 700010:01
mackymanpollyo: I find it on my Edgy system10:01
pollyoJucato: Was it in 6.10?10:01
apusand use dhct?10:01
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Jucatohm... strange... really strange..10:04
pollyoJucato: They doing much with Nvu?  The website has a version packaged for 5. somthing...10:05
pollyoJucato: Nvu 1.0 - Released June 28th, 200510:05
pollyoMaybe they stopped working on it?10:05
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pollyoBRB... going to statup kde10:06
ranjanweb development? www.aptana.com nothing is better10:06
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Jucatomaybe, maybe not10:06
keisangihi there10:06
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ranjanpollyo: www.aptana.com nothing is better10:09
apusdo I have to use port forwarding on my router for k torrent10:10
SilentDisok... #ubuntu-release-party gives me vertigo.  lol10:10
ranjanapus: yes10:11
pollyoranjan: Thanks .. That looks a little over the top but I'll check it out.10:11
ranjanpollyo: if you are good at hand coding that is the best!10:12
apusranjan: they why did it work before I was forwarding? I think my speed lowered when I enabled it10:12
pollyoranjan: I think drag and drop is my speed at this point.10:12
ranjanpollyo: quata will not help u... ue best bet is dreamweaver . wine10:13
ranjanquanta or nvu10:13
pollyoranjan: I'm just about to start quanta.10:14
ranjanpollyo: quanta is not drag and drop10:14
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ranjanpollyo: if linus is your primary OS, you are better off learning hand cofing10:15
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apusa friend told me to install automatix and then I found out it was a bad idea, I removed it by purging it with apt-get and deleting it from the source file, i should be fine right?10:18
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ranjanapus: also open ur sources.list and remove any automatix added repos10:18
apusranjan: yep I did that10:18
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ranjanapus: u r good to go10:19
reldruhdoes anybody know what the difference between the nvidia-glx and the nvidia-glx-new package is? And which one I'm better off installing?10:19
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apusranjan: I still suffer from windows paranoia10:19
ranjanApus: for multimedia stuff google medibuntu10:19
YingFanhow do i get an usb hd get automatically mounted without having a permanent entry in fstab?10:19
apusranjan: I have everything I need now from restricted formats10:20
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ranjanapus: cool10:20
keisangihow can i do this with kopete:  /msg nickserv identify mypassword10:21
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ranjanYingFan: edgy/feisty auto mounts usb drives10:21
YingFanranjan im on feisty, it doesnt...10:22
keisangii seems to be unable to identify my nick when i'm irc'ing with kopete10:22
YingFanranjan it detects them fine, and i can mount them manually...10:22
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ranjankeisangi: goggle kopete automatic commands10:24
keisangiic.. i'll try that .. thanks for the info ranjan10:24
ranjanYingFan: /etc/init.d/dbus restart should automount it, if it doesn't i am unable to help10:24
ranjanYingFan: sudo  /etc/init.d/dbus restart10:25
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dwidmannUggh, I think I may have discovered a bug in Krita :(10:28
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Cem_UNALWhen is the release time? Home page has been said "tomorrow" yesterday. Now it says "tomorrow" :) When is "tomorrow" ? :)10:30
YingFanthe day obese women start a diet10:30
ranjanCem_UNAL: it is out already10:31
Cem_UNALthe thursday of uncoming mount :D10:31
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Cem_UNAL** the last thursday of uncoming mount :D10:32
_4strOTomorrow never die !10:33
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Cem_UNALranjan: but ubuntu and kubuntu home page does not say that?; and i want to download new release of Kubuntu; where can i find it?10:37
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Cem_UNALranjan: do u know iso link for Kubuntu?10:39
_4strOranjan: better10:39
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RiddellCem_UNAL: it's not out yet, won't be long10:39
Riddellthe torrents are not up yet10:40
ranjanits out10:40
ranjanfollow my link10:40
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reldruhwhat is the nvidia-glx-new package?10:41
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Cem_UNALreldruh: it for non legacy card ( legacy cards : TNT and olders ) u can find its under nvidia glx read me.10:42
reldruhCem_UNAL: how is that different from the nvidia-glx package?10:43
chemisusreldruh, you sure those arnt beta ones?10:43
reldruhchemisus: i installed feisty and they're both in adept10:43
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reldruhchemisus: it doesn't say anything about beta10:44
reldruhchemisus: yes10:44
chemisusreldruh, ok, thanks10:44
reldruhchemisus: what for?10:44
chemisusthe info =P10:44
chemisusits 5am here, im ready to sleep =P10:45
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pollyoI believe they have three nvidia drivers now glx-legacy, glx, and glx-new10:46
ScuniziI'm trying to get beryl working.  I've installed the ati binary drivers from synaptic and installed beryl but have no idea how to activate it.  Ideas?10:47
Cem_UNALpollyo: glx is glx-new is not it ?10:47
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reldruhwell, neither nvidia package seems to be working for me so unless anybody has a last minute suggestion I'm going to go download and install it straight from the nvidia website10:48
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Cem_UNALnow again: kubuntu 7.04 isos is ready or not ready? (not torrent)10:48
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reldruhCem_UNAL: it doesn't look like they're ready, the kubuntu website doesn't have an announcement10:49
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pollyoCem_UNAL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=243757810:50
Cem_UNALtomorrow is today; today is tomorrow for ubuntu :D10:50
andreas_i have problems with ata devices. maybe the kernel is not ready.10:50
Cem_UNALpollyo: tx10:50
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pollyo1.0-9755 == nvidia-glx-new10:50
Jucatopollyo: <geser> Jucato: nvu was removed because it is unmaintained upstream, kompozer is the successor of nvu (but not yet in Ubuntu)10:50
pollyoJucato: kompozer ok. Thank you.10:51
reldruhpollyo: do I have to do something special to get it working? I tried installing it and restarting my X server and then I couldn't even run glxgears10:51
Cem_UNAL1.0-7xxx = glx-old10:51
pollyoreldruh: Do you have the correct driver?10:51
pollyoreldruh: That link I shared has an Appendix link with information on the driver you need for a specific card.10:52
reldruhpollyo: correct as in not legacy and am I sure I have an nvidia card? if so, yes. I have a geforce 730010:52
reldruhpollyo: could you post the link again? I restarted my X server without copying it10:52
pollyoreldruh: There are three nvidia drivers now.10:52
pollyoreldruh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=243757810:53
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sivaji! fiesty10:55
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Chousukethere it is10:55
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reldruhpollyo: I see. My card is on the first part of that list, where it says to use 1.0-9755. That would be the nvidia-glx-new package, but when I tried installing that it didn't work and I was unable to run even glxgears10:56
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sivajiis there any way to upgrade from edgy to feisty10:57
reldruhpollyo: should I have any other packages besides nvidia-kernel-common and nvidia-glx-new installed to have it working?10:57
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pollyoreldruh: I can't say for sure.10:58
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sivajiwhether feisty is released or not ?10:58
Jucatosivaji: I think the GUI dist-upgrade tool will be made available from the edgy repositories once it's officially released.10:59
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reldruhpollyo: OK. I guess  I'll do some googling around then. Thanks for your help. It would have taken me a long time to find that list10:59
mrignsJucato: saw you on planet.ubuntu.com /bow11:00
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Jucatolol :D11:00
Jucatoreldruh: you need linux-restricted-modules-generic11:01
sivaji! feisty11:01
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unix_infidellol, its 0400 already here.11:01
unix_infidelwhat's the hold up !11:01
Jucatounix_infidel: hm.. timezones?11:02
reldruhJucato: it's already installed11:02
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unix_infidelcentral US11:03
reldruhJucato: both linux-restricted-modules-generic and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic11:03
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Jucatoreldruh: ok, just making sure. nvidia-glx + linux-restricted-modules-generic, then "sudo nvidia-xconfig"11:03
pdroyHi there, Is 7.04 RC already released11:03
Jucatoreldruh: is that the kernel you are using?11:03
Jucatopdroy: skipped RC. today will be the stable release11:03
pollyoreldruh: You have two restricted modules?11:03
pdroyJucato: woow thats nice, cant wait11:04
reldruhJucato: I can't tell you how dumb I feel. Usually when I install nvidia drivers it changes my xorg.conf for me, but I didn't change it manually this time around11:04
reldruhpollyo: yes11:04
Jucatopollyo: no, the -generic is just a metapackage11:10
reldruhpollyo: then no :-)11:10
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JucatoI mean, linux-restricted-modules-generic is a metapackage11:10
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reldruhJucato: I now have to restart my X server?11:10
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pdroyI screwed my system trying to install ATI drivers, now waiting for the 7.04 Download -> Install :)11:10
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_Johnyhas feisty been finally released?11:10
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Jucato_Johny: see /topic :)11:10
_Johnywhen then?11:10
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pollyoAnyone else having trouble brining up the ubuntu website?11:10
reldruhJucato: it worked! Thank you! Now I just have to try and remember how to get all my fonts back down to their normal size...11:10
_JohnyJucato: Hello:). I just wonder becouse there's no news on Kubuntu site11:10
Jucato_Johny: well, there's no news to report yet :)11:10
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ubotufoo is bar11:10
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:10
pgquiles___Johny: the download page already shows the Feisty download section with a "coming soon"11:10
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ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers11:10
Cugelhttp://www.kubuntu.org/ is not updated, yet.11:10
Jucatothere is nothing to update yet11:10
CugelTrue, that.11:10
CugelI had some trouble finding good upgrade instructions for kubuntu.11:10
JucatoCugel: Edgy to Feisty? there will be no need. the new dist-upgrade tool will take care of everything11:10
CugelJucato: and where do I find that tool?11:10
JucatoCugel: it will be made available as an update once feisty is released11:11
pdroyI dont like upgrades, I like fresh installation. Take /home backup , install and copy backup back, its so easy11:12
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pdroyonly pain is to install the many additional packages :)11:12
Jucatoit's nice to have options11:13
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ledementehi all.11:19
pdroyhi ledemente11:19
ledementeI'm having some issues with Kopete11:19
ledementeSpecifically, it freezes almost as soon as it's opened./11:19
mykyhi all can we help me....a want install beryl on my kubuntu but i don't known how pls hep me11:20
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Cem_UNALmyky read wiki11:20
ledementeI've tried uninstalling, reinstalling. Still having issues.11:21
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psb154ledemente, has it ever worked or has it always crashed for  you?11:22
mykyCem_UNAL: thx but try read it but after i must reinstall kubuntu because my x was down11:22
ledementeIt used to work. My last Ubuntu installation had the exact same issue - it worked for a while, then started crashing.11:22
ledementeIt's not just Kopete, the mouse and keyboard freeze at the same time.11:22
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jtmoneyis feisty final coming out today or was it delayed?11:23
pdroyledemente: I had use kopete initially then I switched to GAIM11:23
Jucatojtmoney: today.as to what time... well you'll have to wait11:23
pdroyjtmoney: It should be coming today, but no idea of the time11:23
psb154sounds like ledemente has bigger problems though.11:23
jtmoneyJucato: okay, thank you11:23
CugelI have a question. I want to move a lot of files to a new drive partition. At the moment I only have one huge partition. How do I create a new partition on this drive? Gparted refuses to change anything to the drive (probably since my system is on it?)11:23
Cem_UNALmyky: login with live cd11:23
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mykyCem_UNAL: and after?11:24
VSpikeIs the Feisty release going to cover kubuntu as well?11:24
sonoftheclayrCugel: try a live cd such as the gparted live cd, ubuntu live cd or puppy linux (they are what i use)11:24
Cugelspike: of course!!!11:24
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ledementepdroy: Gaim is fine... but it's lacks the features I want.11:24
VSpikeCugel: cool... just checking11:24
Cugelson: gparted live CD -- didn't know about that one, will check.11:25
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pdroyledemente: whats the functionality u r looking11:25
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Cem_UNALmyky: u can configure it reading wiki if nessery make chroot and cofigure ur system11:25
CugelI presume Gparted understands that I don't want to lose the data on my disk? (I'm always _very_ afraid of doing stuff to my partitions)11:25
ledementepdroy: ?11:25
sonoftheclayrCugel: I have never lost data from messing about using gparted unless i deleted the partition11:26
VSpikeMy system is kinda of increasingly broken.  I've kind of accepted a clean install is the best way to go, so I'd be stupid not to wait until feisty release.  But I'm getting sick of all the oddness at this end.11:26
VSpikeI can't wait to swap all my existing problems for interesting new ones :)11:26
pdroyledemente: whats the special Feature you are looking for11:26
mykyCem_UNAL: known i have ati xpres200 in my notebook...and i have problem find manual for driver install ati11:26
ledementepdroy: Webcam for one, but I'd rather not find a replacement app... I'd like to get this one to work.11:27
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Cem_UNALmyky: http://wiki.pardus-linux.nl/index.php/HOWTO:Installing_and_Using_Beryl u can find under this document11:28
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pdroyI guess 7.04 is released11:29
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Jucatopages aren't updated all at the same time. some servers might contain more updated data than others11:30
pdroyledemente: I had very bad experiences wit webcams11:30
mykyCem_UNAL: thx very much i go try it :)11:30
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Cem_UNALmyky: np11:30
ledementepdroy: So?11:31
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insmodanyone have a fixe on the usplash _down on a laptop -- dose not work even if i rename /sbin/usplash_down11:31
keisangipdroy nice :)11:32
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Cem_UNALis this ok --> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso11:33
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RiddellCem_UNAL: that's not kubuntu11:37
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CugelI think it's being released as we speak -- at least all sites went down in flames :-)11:37
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Cem_UNALRiddell: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso11:38
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icf7anyone got the torrent of the i386 Desktop CD?11:38
Cem_UNAL^^^ is this kubuntu :D11:38
RiddellCem_UNAL: I couldn't possibly comment11:39
Riddellicf7: torrents aren't yet active11:39
icf7Riddell: thx11:40
icf7When are they expected to start serving?11:40
CugelDudes, we can also be patient and wait a day for kubuntu.org to update. I mean, it will probably break your network and you'll cry :-)11:40
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Gartra1any ops in here?11:43
JucatoGartra1: what for?11:44
Jucatomay I be of assistance?11:44
Gartra1Seveas banned me from the main ubuntu chanel., i need to talk to him as for why11:44
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Gartra1and why he wont unban me11:45
JucatoGartra1: #ubuntu-ops please11:45
insmodanyone have a fixe on the usplash _down on a laptop -- dose not work even if i rename /sbin/usplash_down11:45
psb154Gartra1, Create another account and log on again :-)11:46
Jucatopsb154: not if it's his IP that was banned11:46
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Gartra1cant, seveas banned my ip11:46
psb154Jucato, saw you ban someone yesterday and you used their nick *@*11:47
Jucatopsb154: yes. that was for a quick and messy ban. I immediately removed the nick ban and substituted and IP ban11:47
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psb154Oooo O_o11:47
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Jucatoyou can check the channe ban list :D11:48
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pollyoDo those types of bans work of people have dynamic ips?11:48
pollyoDo that many people actually have a dedicated ip?11:49
psb154Aha... good point11:49
apusUS MIRROR http://www.public.iastate.edu/~timerbes/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent11:49
pollyoapus: Is that a beta?11:50
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apusthats final11:51
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pollyoJucato: Is there going to be updates for people running the 7.04 beta rc's?11:51
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Jucatopollyo: if you have done your daily dist-upgrade, then no11:52
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pollyoJucato: Ok.11:52
Jucatoor rather, afaik, no11:52
mackymanIs it me, or are ppl behaving like kids on christmas in #ubuntu-release-party ? =P11:53
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Jucato<larger grin>11:54
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pollyoHow many people can be in one irc chat (room)?11:54
mackymanpollyo: To many? ;)11:55
Jucatodepends on the channel I guess11:55
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pollyoGartra1: That per server or per chat room?11:56
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tvhi all11:56
Gartra1no, it varryes, i was basing it off of the main #ubuntu11:56
Jucatopollyo: it depends on the channel, if the ops set a limit to the number of users.11:57
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malik__hi ...........does any on else hava problem with amarok........i updated it from 1.4.3 to 1.4.5 n its veryyyyyyyyy slow to respond......im using kubuntu edgy12:02
ledementeI asked before... but I will again.12:03
ledementeKopete keeps freezing up on me. Anyone else had this problem?12:04
psb154ledmente, you also said that other apps crash as well when you use your mouse and keyboard :-/12:04
ledementeNot what I said.12:05
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ledementeI was saying that when kopete crashes, my keyboard/mouse freezes up.12:05
ledementeSo... fix it.12:06
psb154ledemente are you using a web cam when this happens12:06
ledementeIt's just when the program opens and is about to show the MSN contact groups.12:07
ledementeIt freezes just as it starts to show them12:07
malik__hi ...........does any on else hava problem with amarok........i updated it from 1.4.3 to 1.4.5 n its veryyyyyyyyy slow to respond......im using kubuntu edgy12:07
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psb154ledemente, 'them'?12:07
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psb154i see12:07
ledementemalik__: I find Amarok slow to start up and very occasionally lags.12:07
ledementepsb154: ... what?12:08
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ledementepsb154: ?12:08
psb154ledemente, try this: move ~./kde/share/apps/kopete to some other name and restart kopete12:08
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psb154mv ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete-old12:10
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pgquiles__torrents already in FTP!12:11
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os2macok serious question here....12:12
malik__so whats is good music player for kubuntu then?12:12
os2macI am on the Fiesty Beta. do I need to change my repositories to upgrade to the final?12:12
Jucatoos2mac: you don't need to12:12
os2macso they are the same repositories?12:12
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Jucatothere are no separate repositories for feisty herd, beta, rc, final. feisty is feisty12:13
Gartra1heres a question from the past: are the old 4.10 repos still up?12:13
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JucatoI'm not sure. you'd have to ask in #ubuntu-devel12:14
SanneGartra1: I just looked at packages.ubuntu.com, it seems so.12:14
TuTuFFfor dualcore PCs wanting to run 32bit code, which is the correct install disc, i386 or alternate i386?12:14
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chusoJucato: please, what repos are those for upgrading to edgy?12:15
Jucatochuso: from dapper to edgy?12:15
chusosorry :)12:16
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chusoedgy to feisty12:16
Jucatochuso: ah you don't have to. once it's released there will be a dist-upgrade/upgrade manager available12:16
Gartra1it goes horray hedgehog/dapper drake/ edgy eft/feisty fawn if im not mistaken12:17
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SanneGartra1: they are at least listet here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/12:17
mykyall: please help me i have ati xpres200 in my notebook a i dont known how i install glx please help me ..i have kubuntu edgy12:17
chusoso i can't dist-upgrade my system now?12:18
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:18
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_4strOchuso: you have something about it in adept i think12:18
Jucatochuso: not unless you want to manually change your repositories and risk running into problems. but you can if you really want to12:18
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Sanne!ati | myky12:18
ubotumyky: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:18
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Sannemyky: see if those docs help you.12:19
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chusook thanks _4strO and Jucato ! And do you know when will be released kubuntu feisty?12:20
Gartra1what is that key that you use to have ubotu say someones name?12:20
neonlinuxjust curious... does kubuntu get released the same time as ubuntu?12:20
Jucatochuso: today12:20
Jucatoneonlinux: yes12:20
Gartra1all dists are released at the same time12:20
Jucatorather, all official distros12:21
ReTyPewill there be a kubuntu released today, or just Ubuntu ?12:21
neonlinuxYAY... here i am hanging around in the release party channel.. and that thought struck my head.. panic set in at the amount of time ive wasted loll12:21
Gartra1there are unofficial ones?12:21
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JucatoReTyPe: ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, and edubuntu12:23
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ReTyPeok, thx for the info, any ETA ?12:23
ReTyPebtw, today its my birthday too, i am getting the most beautifull present in years12:23
neonlinuxReTyPe: happy birthday.... today is the only info given for release12:24
XenThraLhappy bday dude12:24
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ReTyPeso is this the final one??  http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso12:24
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neonlinuxReTyPe: thats the last daily build.. not the release apparently12:25
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_4strOit's seem so ReTyPe12:25
ReTyPevery confusing12:25
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_4strOnver mind12:25
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Grexeois it safe to upgrade from kubuntu edgy to feisty, or should I do a clean install?12:26
_4strOwhat the difference between the release today and tomorrow :p12:26
Goliath23Grexeo: check this out: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade12:26
ICMike5Anybody know if 7.04 final is still due today?12:27
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GrexeoGoliath23: thanks12:28
Gartra1ICMike5: it out12:29
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ICMike5I didnt see it on the kubuntu download site12:30
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Grexeowhat's the difference between the DVD version and the CD version?12:31
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Grexeo(I would read up myself but most of the ubuntu site is unreachable for me)12:32
neonlinuxGrexeo: i have no idea sorry.... i usually use the cds12:33
sivaji_2009shutdown -h 4200 when this command will halt system12:34
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os2macIf I load the Gnome desktop to my Kubuntu install... will it change the default desktop to Gnome?12:34
mykyall: can we help me so direct rendering was yes...12:34
mykymyky@myky-laptop:/etc/X11$ glxinfo |grep direct12:34
mykyXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".12:34
mykydirect rendering: No12:34
mykyOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect12:34
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pharsalusGreetings, any idea of the ETA on Feisty?12:36
ReTyPeos2mac: you can make the choice at the login screen, and choose you standard desktop environment12:37
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tuxhi all12:37
tuxdoes anyone know where i can find ATI drivers for feisty?12:38
os2macReTyPe: but what will be the default? Gnome or KDE?12:38
os2macand how do I set it?12:38
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mackymantux: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide12:39
Grexeopharsalus: the dvd release is available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/7.04/release/ - no idea when we can expect the CD release though12:39
mackymanWhen Feisty fawn is releast, a guide will be there12:39
ReTyPeif you use Kubuntu, KDE will be your standard desktop, but at the login screen you can set your default to Gnome12:39
mackymanOr, atlast, probable12:39
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tuxoh, but im already running feisty beta :p12:40
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mackymantux: You can always try the edgy guide... No garantees thou.12:41
os2macDoes it change the splash screen to an Ubuntu spash screen?12:41
os2macand if it does how do I change it back?12:42
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tuxi tried with a edgy guide but it didnt work verry well12:42
tuxgot error's at buildpkg12:42
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mind_crusher[ro] what's with the delay in the release of 7.04?>12:43
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hephooeyI see feisty cds are already in the downloading mirrors,12:46
hephooeybut the torrent downloading does not work yet12:47
os2macthinking about installing Gnome on my Kubuntu release. I suspect that it will change my usplash to the ubuntu splash page. How do I back it up just in case, so I can restore it?12:47
hephooeysome unauthrized torrent error12:47
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pollyoos2mac: I have gnome on my kubuntu and didn't notice a change12:48
os2macit didn't change your login screen?12:48
pollyoos2mac: I have the same splash when it loads and the same login screen.12:48
os2macOK... must have been an earlier version that did that.12:48
pollyoos2mac: I have to click on the box to the left of name/password to select session type and other options.12:49
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os2macPollyo: I am sure your correct. I tried this in an earlier version and when I did it changed my login screen to an ubuntu login. Took me forever to figure out how to cange it back.12:51
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tuxhm i hae X.org version 7.2.x12:52
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tuxand the ATI drivers only support 7.1.x12:53
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hansenis there a website with a changelog or whatever for kubuntu edgy updates?12:55
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aztunhi all12:59
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hnsnhello fellow name01:01
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orient2000just released http://ftp.rz.tu-bs.de/pub/mirror/ubuntu-cd-releases/7.04/01:04
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Sanneorient2000: not official yet01:05
lupoSo there isn't going to be a cd-version of Feisty?01:05
lupoor any sort of netinstall?01:05
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aztunthere are no desktop-effects on kubuntu feisty?01:06
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aztunI cant find anything about desktop-effects en defaults menus01:06
aztunand the utility "desktop-effects" isnt installed by default01:07
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aztunthere is no support for compiz on kubuntu?01:07
orient2000I am downloading now. ubuntu.com is crowded01:07
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Sanneaztun: I heard it will be installed, but not on by default01:09
Sanneaztun: I don't know especially for kubuntu01:09
Grexeoorient2000: why are you downloading an old release?01:10
Grexeojust wait for the final release...01:10
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tuxno one got ATI drivers running on feisty?01:10
aztunSanne: I think is isnt even installed on kubuntu01:10
tuxkan find anything at the kubuntu website01:10
Sanneaztun: hmmm, might be. Don't know really, I just some interview with Mark where he said it's installed, but turned off by default. But he was talking about Ubuntu.01:12
aztunwhat a pain01:12
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Sanneaztun: why shouldn't you be able to download it? I know anything about desktop effects, but the packages should surely be in the repositories?01:15
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Sanneaztun: s/know/don't know01:16
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Sanneaztun: seems interesting: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38523401:17
MarkChhi all. i am a bit curious. why are you using kde instead of gnome? what are the features of kde that made you think its better? im planning to try out kde myself full-time today.01:17
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CugelMark: I like KDE because it looks good and works for me.01:18
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CugelAnd some of the specific tools (Amarok, Konqueror) are better than Gnome versions, I believe.01:18
CugelBut otherwise, I don't know.01:18
mykyi think that instalation beryl is easy :) but it is so hard01:18
SanneMarkCh: I like the high configurability of KDE and that it doesn't hide options from users. Some people are overwhelmed by all those options, so for them Gnome might be better. And also, I mostly use KDE apps, only some Gnome/Gtk apps.01:19
MarkChthanks cugel, what made you think it looks good btw. can't gnome emulate whatever looks kde can do?01:19
SkrotffsMarkCh: I find it less claustrophobic. Gnome tend to hide advanced stuff away. Also I enjoy the KIO-slaves, the kpart-concept and lots of the apps like konversation, konqueror, amarok, etc01:20
aztunSanne: it right, packages are on repos01:20
CugelI don't know enough about gnome -- but I do know configuring KDE is easier.01:20
aztunbut the dont work well01:20
aztunI think kubuntu developers havent tested it with kubuntu01:21
SanneMarkCh: also, I'm learning to program with python and Qt/KDE. I like the Qt and KDE toolkits very much, it all seems very well thought out and structured.01:21
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Sanneaztun: ah, good to know, thanks.01:21
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MarkChsanne: yes. probably because they are made in c++.01:21
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MarkChanyway, thanks for the replies guys. ill be using kde for a week and see if it works for me. :)01:22
SanneMarkCh: have fun :)01:22
aztunI have installed it Sanne01:22
aztunwith an intel card01:22
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MarkChdont worry, i will. XD01:22
aztunso I only should intall the package and activate it01:23
aztunbut it fails01:23
aztundoesnt work well01:23
SkrotffsMarkCh: Check out the kio-slaves if you're doing filebrowsing on remote places (ssh, samba, ftp, whatever) :>01:23
luposo is it released or not?01:23
lupokubuntu.org doesn't say anything yet01:23
Sanneaztun: sorry to hear that. But I won't be able to help with that, sorry, I never tried it myself.01:23
Sannelupo: the topic in #ubuntu-release-party sais it is not01:24
pgquiles_lupo: torrents and .jigdo files are already available, ISOs are not (yet)01:24
aztunSanne: I think I hadnt done it right01:25
MarkChok. gotta try kde now. bye!01:25
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lupopgquiles_: where's the torrent file?01:25
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aztunit seems isnt enought installing just desktop-effects package01:25
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aztundonwloading right now........01:25
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Sanneaztun: hmm, that instructions seem pretty easy. I hope you get it to work.01:26
malik__which one is better music player for audio files of different types for kubuntu edgy?.......amarok/juk/XMMS or if any one have any suggestion?01:26
pgquiles_lupo: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/7.04/01:27
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Sannemalik__: I think it's a matter of preference. I like the cleanliness of xmms, most people find amarok awesome, best try them all :)01:27
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mykyall: please help me to configure xgl  and beryl01:27
SkrotffsAre those the *final* ISO's? They're dated the 17th of april..01:27
Sannemalik__: so far xmms played everything I threw at it, at least after installing additional output modules sometimes.01:28
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Sanne!feisty | Skrotffs01:28
ubotuSkrotffs: feisty is01:28
SanneSkrotffs: dunno what's up witht he bot. It said a moment ago: The Feisty Fawn | FEISTY IS NOT RELEASED YET01:29
malik__but i have very bad sound comin outta my mp3z with xmms...........amarok is bit slow n lags alot of the time.........havent tried juk.........just lookin for something which will play audio files n wont lag01:30
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SanneI just caught the moment!!01:30
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lupopgquiles_: thanks01:30
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Sannewell, it's "soon", not "now"...01:31
Cugel"will be released on ubuntu.com at 1pm today" -- it says here.01:32
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dennis_hi! how can i install a java 6 jdk?01:33
mackyman1pm can be quite wide... Depending on timezones01:34
psb154dennis_ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-sdk01:34
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Sannedennis_: I remember seeing it in the backports. Let me look.01:36
CugelWhere do I find a/the script to upgrade Kubuntu? I'm unable to find it.01:36
psb154dennis_ thats jdk sorry01:36
mykyplease help me install xgl on my notebook01:36
dennis_i use adept manager and i don't find a java 6 jdk there01:36
Sannedennis_: sun-java6-jdk in edgy-backports01:37
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psb154dennis_ check your /ect/apt/sources.list you prolly just need to uncomment some debs.01:37
Sannedennis_: you need to have the backports repository enabled01:37
psb154then do a sudo apt-get update01:38
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dennis_thx, it was not enabled in my repositories...01:38
dennis_i think now it will work, if i will have any problems i am back soon :)01:39
Sannedennis_: good luck :)01:39
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dennis_Sanne: thx :)01:40
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os2macpollyo are you still around?01:45
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aspediahello all :)01:49
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Sannehi :)01:50
aspediahow can I see which home directory a user have?01:50
tuxdid they just release feisty?01:50
CugelFast mirror of every release at ftp://ftpserv.tudelft.nl/d1/Linux/releases.ubuntu.com/feisty01:50
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tuxnot yet ...01:51
Sannetux: not yet01:51
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aspediais there a users list command?01:52
JuJuBeeMorning.  I have an old iMac G3 266Mhz from 1999 or so.  Will Kubuntu run on it?01:52
sonoftheclayrJuJuBee: yes it will, but extremely slowly, maybe xubuntu?01:53
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Sanneaspedia: I bet there's a command line way, I don't know. You can see it in System Settings-> Users & Groups, in Admin mode, when you click on modify for a user.01:53
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Sanneaspedia: a list of users currently logged in you get with: users01:54
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:54
JuJuBeeOK, I will give it a try.01:54
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aspediaI dont have a X running on that machine, so I need a command01:54
Sanneaspedia: ah01:54
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livingdaylightHAPPY BIRTHDAY FEISTY BAMBI !!!01:55
Sanneaspedia: can you use a web browser now? I just found this, might help: http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugusers.html01:55
psb154jujubee damn small linux might be a better choice, if it runs on macs that is.01:56
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gholmhey guys, I have an Asus M2A-VM mboard and a AMD X2 6000 and kubuntu won't boot at all. Kernel panic etc etc.  Main error says it "can't allocate resource region 1 of device blah blah"01:56
gholmati chipset?01:56
psb154gholm what version of kubuntu are you using?01:57
Sannegholm: first I would use memtest on the cd, let it run some hours and make sure there are no errors.01:58
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gholmpsb154: 6.10 edgy eft, tried the generic 32bit one and the special AMD64 one01:58
gholmSanne: no mem errors, done it01:58
Sannegholm: ah, ok01:58
tuxbut there are no drivers for the new x.org yet?01:59
Sannegholm: did you do the cd self check?01:59
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aspedia"find / -user username -ls"  is a way to find a user02:00
gholmSanne: yeah, came out ok too02:00
aspediabut I can not list all users02:00
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gholmSanne: doesn't seem this vers likes ati02:00
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sivajii got this error when i install feisty http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16383/02:01
Sannegholm: then you could try the alternate cd, with a text based installer. Works better for some people.02:01
psb154gholm out of interest have you had success installing any other OS on that computer?02:01
Sannepsb154: good question :)02:01
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gholmpsb154: yup winxp (cringe)02:01
gholmSanne: tried the alternate amd installer. with all permutations of text vs OEM installer02:02
gholmpsb154: winxp works a treat02:02
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Sannegholm: oh. then I'm out of ideas, sorry. next thing I would try is to search for your hardware in the forums, wiki, docs. Maybe somebody already has a solution.02:03
gholmsanne, yeah all the forums indicate that the mboard is just not fit for linux yet...02:03
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psb154gholm could you try resetting the bios to defaults.02:03
Sannegholm: ah, then that may just be the case. Is it fairly new, then?02:04
gholmpsb154: it is02:04
psb154gholm what makes you think it might have something to do with ATI chipset?02:04
amigravewould it help if I try to dist-upgrade a computer currently on kubuntu edgy to feisty ? I don't care if it's broken afterward. I don't know if feisty is already froozen, if yes I guess that feedback is welcome !?02:04
gholmpsb154: other forums02:04
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psb154gholm can you disable the onboard graphics and try another card?02:05
gholmpsb154: no, I didn't mean ati graphics, I mean onboard chipset02:05
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gholmand no it ain't ati sorry, it's amd69002:06
Sanneamigrave: feisty is due out in less than some hours...02:06
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JuJuBeeI have a shell script that configures iptables for me.  How do I make this script run at startup since iptables entries are not permanent?02:08
Jisaoit`s already available, Sanne02:08
psb154gholm, might be worth trying another distribution.02:08
SanneJisao: not officially02:08
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JisaoWell, it's on gatech servers...02:09
gholmpsb154: yah, I'm a long time Mepis user, so I may try the latets of that02:09
JisaoI just finished downloading it.02:09
SanneJisao: what I meant was mainly that it surely is frozen, and beta testing might well be over ;)02:09
SanneJisao: have fun :) I'm waiting.02:10
psb154gholm I hear good things about those motherboards too.02:10
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gholmpsb154: damn shame I can't get kubuntu working on it yet02:10
JisaoWell, as I have been running beta, it won't be a flabbergasting experience...02:10
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Aarinis the final version of kubuntu feisty released yet?02:11
Daisuke_Idonot yet, soon02:11
gholmgotta go, thanks psb154 and Sanne  speak soon02:11
Sannegholm: bye :)02:11
Jisaogholn, what chipset are you using02:11
Aarindamn. so i've downloaded and burned a beta relese just now...02:12
gholmJisao: amd69002:12
amigraveSanne: tought it was for 21th02:12
psb154bye gholm02:12
Sanneamigrave: no, it's today. Join the madness in #ubuntu-release-party :)02:12
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amigraveSanne: YEAH !02:12
Aarinther isn't much diferente between RC and final right?02:12
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amigraveSanne: is there something to drink in #ubuntu-release-party ?02:13
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SanneAarin: I would think so, and you can always update, so I won't worry much.02:13
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Sanneamigrave: sure, I got some tea, now I will bring some coffee and cookies ;)02:13
amigraveSanne: mhhhh no alcohol ?? I'll go in #wine then ;-)02:14
JisaoInteresting problem that gholm has.  I also have an amd with onboard chipset, and it can't run any *buntus.02:14
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Sanneamigrave: but you have to run windows to drink it ;)02:14
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N6REJmorning everyone02:15
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amigraveSanne: you're right, and I heard that #wine is dangerous because of Balmer throwing chairs when he's drunk02:15
Sanneamigrave: yeah, best bring your armour02:16
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drknsi need help again fellas02:22
drknsanytime i want to install i am getting this error02:22
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drkns/shared/p80211types.c:88:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory02:23
drkns../shared/p80211types.c:89:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory02:23
drkns../shared/p80211types.c:90:20: error: string.h: No such file or directory02:23
drknsthe error goes on like this and end with error code202:23
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drknshas anyone any idea what i am missing here?02:24
drknswhen i wanted to install ndisrapper i got this error02:24
psb154drkns command are you using to install... whatever it is you are trying to install.02:24
drknsnow i am getting it with linux-wlan-ng-0.2.702:24
drknsfirst i used configure and it worked fine02:25
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drknsand then i wrote make02:25
rubsowhere the hell is my kubuntu ?!!!02:25
drknsand it gives me this error02:25
psb154drkns ok so this is not an apt-get error.02:25
pucko-can anyone tell me if there are any easy to use cd-ripping/mp3-encoding tools for kde other than kaudiocreator?02:25
drknsi believe i am missing some files or?02:25
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dognewswhen will feisty be released today?02:26
drknsnope i downloaded these packages from the web02:26
drknsand unzipped them to a folder02:26
drknsand open command line02:27
drknsand get in to the folder02:27
drknsand with sudo02:27
Sanne!feisty | dognews02:27
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psb154drkns so have you done a sudo apt-get install build-essential02:27
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icecruncherSanne: when exactly? today is the 1902:28
drknsmkmetastruct.c:48:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory02:28
drknsmkmetastruct.c:49:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory02:28
drknsmkmetastruct.c:50:20: error: string.h: No such file or directory02:28
Sannedrkns: are you sure the program you want to install is not in the ubuntu repositories?02:28
drknstis is the lates version i believe02:28
drknsi installed ndisrapper from the aptget02:28
drknsand it didnt do anything and i needed the latest version02:29
Sanneicecruncher: how would I know? Hehe, that's the question all people at the party ask. The release manager said, less than some hours.02:29
drknsand that wont install as well with the similar error02:29
icecruncherSanne: I'm already torrentuing kubuntu alternate, lol02:29
drknsmake[2] : *** [.depend]  Error 102:29
drknsmake[2] : Leaving directory `/home/drkns/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.7/src/mkmeta'02:29
drknsmake[1] : *** [all]  Error 202:29
Sanneicecruncher: have fun :) (it's not official yet, though)02:30
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icecruncherSanne: lol02:30
Sannedrkns: it seems you need some development packages.02:30
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nozeyno final isos yet?02:31
drknsyes i suspect so02:31
Sannedrkns: I would start with installing build-essential02:31
drknsi have two wireless pcmcia card and i cant get both to work02:31
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drknsi am doing that sanne thanks02:31
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Sannedrkns: you're welcome02:32
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icecruncherSanne: had desktop torrent going, no seeder nothing, just started 3 secs ago. lol02:33
drknsi really like kubuntu i am using 7.04 beta and happy about it except for the wireless02:33
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Sanneicecruncher: I will wait02:33
drknsi cant get usr 5411 or smc 2532w-b to work yet02:34
Sannedrkns: sorry to hear that. I don't use wireless, so I won't know specifics, sorry.02:34
drknsno problem i am searching the net02:34
psb154drkns wireless is supposed to be improved with 7.04 :-/ That is what I am waiting for. I have wireless working on 6.10 but the trouble is WEP wont work.02:34
Sannedrkns: also search ubuntuforums and the ubuntu wiki02:34
drknsbut it seems i am going to ditc them all and buy a new one that works with linux02:34
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Sannedrkns: that would be the best way, if you can.02:35
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drknscan you guys suggest any brand for me02:35
drknsmy ap is linksys wrt54gc02:35
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ReTyPedrkns, isn't there a linksys router based on linux ?? is that a wireless one ?02:36
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drknswhat is02:38
drknssuperfluous localized  02:38
drkns  man pages02:38
drknsi do not know retype have to search02:38
drknsoh wrt54gc is a wireless rounter but i dont know if its based on linux02:39
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usamahashimiis there any software which can solve matrices for me (like multiplying them or taking inverse etc)02:40
rec53usamahashimi: octave ?02:40
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usamahashimirec53: lemme try02:41
N6REJany vmware experts around right now?02:42
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ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers02:43
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drknssanne thanks again02:46
drknsbuilding essential worked fine but it seems i already have the wlan-ng but still wont work02:47
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drknsyep i am still waiting for a good 54g pcmcia card that works out of the box02:47
drknspls let me know fellas02:47
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rubsoyo guys, how to enable restricted formats from one click as in Ubuntu 7.04?02:48
rebecca_sifworkhmmm.. is the digg story correct? is 7.04 the final feisty release?02:48
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malik__if i want to make amarok start automatically upon login do i make a link to "/usr/bin/amarok" or "/usr/bin/amarokapp" into autostart folder of ~.kde/Autostart.................since both of them start amarok but i dont know which one is better or proper option..........any suggestion is welcome.02:49
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mackymanmalik__: I usually just don't close amarok upon shutdown02:50
mackymanSo it starts automaticly02:50
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malik__oops sorry02:51
rebecca_sifworkanyone? is 7.04 the real feisty release or i have been told lies? lol02:51
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shaddowanyone know about mtg??02:51
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drknsbecca it suppose to be02:51
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malik__mackyman: i know but i dont wanna restart the last session......i want to start fresh session upon login thats why i am asking.02:52
BluesKajrebecca_sifwork, the 'official' Feisty release is reorted to be some time today ...I haven't seen it come up on adept alert yet02:52
YingFanthe dialog for choice of action on new devices, e.g. "open in new window" where are those (re)configured?02:52
BluesKajmy version is still beta02:53
shaddowplz tell me one magic the gathering channel02:53
drknsi think they are going to release final sometime today02:53
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drknsi cant get wpa_supplicant to start whats wrong damn wireless02:53
rebecca_sifworkdrkns: ok02:53
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malik__so we are talkin about the final release of fiesty sometime today?..............will it be the one with three years support or 18 months?02:54
BluesKajusually 6 mos apart02:54
BluesKajoh support is 18 mos I believe02:55
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malik__so ist not the LTS version then?02:56
Aarinits more probable that the 7.10 version will be the lts02:57
mackymanmalik__: kk... Well... I don't =P So I don't know ;)02:57
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malik__mackyman: thats oki thanks any ways for suggesting02:58
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rebecca_sifworkBluesKaj: is that a no? or yes but it just hasn't filtered through all systems yet?02:59
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BluesKajrebecca_sifwork, join the #ubuntu-release-party ...the ppl there are saying it hasn't been officaily released yet03:01
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excitatoryquestion for kde/beryl users, is it possible to configure the taskbar to only show applications from the desktop/cube-face that one is currently viewing?  it seems rather pointless, and incredibly annoying to show all apps on the taskbar; makes me wonder what the point of the multiple desktops really is in beryl..03:01
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malik__so what do a person like me do ...........to upgrade or update to fiest final version.......im using edgy 6.10 kubuntu03:01
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rebecca_sifworkBluesKaj: okay. thanks :)03:02
yaccinexait is03:02
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psb154getting it!!03:03
malik__sec question, is fiesty being released with Koffice instead of OpenOffice?03:03
yaccinhow long for Kubuntu feisty release?03:03
excitatoryyaccin, ?03:03
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yaccinexcitatory: it is possible with beryl03:03
toeexcitatory: Yes, I used to have svn-version of Beryl. There is a compiz-windowbar (or named sth. alike) which is what you want.03:03
yaccinyou need taskbar-compiz if i remember correctly03:03
pgquiles__no jigdo files for desktop, wierd03:03
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:04
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toeyaccin is correct: taskbar-compiz was the name03:04
yaccinyay :)03:04
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mako - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:04
yaccinhttp://kubuntu.com/download.php#latest << feisty isnt beta anymore?03:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about benjamin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:05
sivajidpkg error ple help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16393/03:05
pollyoDid they put the final release up yet?03:05
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inferno_how to change file permissions as root in terminal/konsole03:06
yaccinwill there be a DVD iso?03:06
yaccininferno_: man chmod03:06
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icecruncheryaccin #ubuntu-release-party03:06
psb154inferno_ you could apt-get mc03:06
psb154mc excellent console file manager03:07
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icecruncherk3b 1 is out. yeah!03:09
dhqfdoving: i upgraded to fiesty now my vmware doesnt work03:09
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zorglu_i got a kubuntu edgy and his got this 'lets show only part of the root file' i know there is a page about it but i dont remember the name of it, any hint ?03:10
ubotuJoin #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn03:10
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sivajisivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a03:11
sivajiSetting up xfonts-scalable (1.0.0-6) ...03:11
sivajiInvalid string keyword: chassis-type03:11
sivajiValid string keywords are:03:11
sivaji  bios-vendor03:11
sivaji  bios-version03:11
sivaji  bios-release-date03:11
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asdfjkloewhats the difference between the cd and the dvd version? i mean the package is MUCH bigger, about 2.8 gigs03:11
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zorglu_asdfjkloe: it is because cd version is to be put on cd, the other on dvd03:12
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zorglu_asdfjkloe:  and cd allows much less space than dvd03:12
ubotua FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042703:12
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aztunfinally I had to install beryl on my kubuntu feisty03:13
ubotuKubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)03:13
asdfjkloezorglu_ ... i know that. but the dvd version mustnt be the full size that fits on dvd to be a dvd version...03:13
pdroyasdfjkloe: the dvd has lot more stuff than the CD version., good if you dont have an internet connection03:13
BrokenLinuxAnyone know if there's a 2.0 thunderbird deb package?03:13
aztunin order to get desktop-effects03:13
inferno_what to mode to give to chmod to make file exetucatble and writable by all users03:13
icecruncherhow do you install the google toolbar?03:13
inferno_like an everyones folder03:13
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asdfjkloezorglu_ so?03:14
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zorglu_asdfjkloe: ?03:15
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asdfjkloezorglu_ whats the difference between the cd and the dvd version? i mean the package is MUCH bigger, about 2.8 gigs03:15
dhqi upgraded to fiesty now my vmware doesnt work03:16
asdfjkloezorglu_ ... i know that. but the dvd version mustnt be the full size that fits on dvd to be a dvd version...03:16
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zorglu_asdfjkloe: hue ? i believe you already knew03:16
zorglu_asdfjkloe: dvd bigger than cd03:17
zorglu_asdfjkloe: so dvd image bigger than cd image03:17
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zorglu_asdfjkloe: but you already knew, so i dont understand why you reask the same question several time ifyou already know :)03:17
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odin-argfeisty out today, is there an updater from edgy to feisty?03:17
zorglu_once is already strange enought :)03:17
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N6REJany vmware users around?03:20
N6REJdhq: did you use server or player version?03:21
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pgquiles__Riddell: ping03:21
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Riddellhi pgquiles__03:22
icecruncherwhat is the command to rename a file? lol03:22
dhqN6REJ: server03:22
pgquiles__Riddell: hi. Why no .jigdo for the desktop ISO?03:22
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N6REJdhq: you need a file called any-any that patches vmware server to make the config work I think.03:22
N6REJdhq: but I'm new to that software... I'm reading that player is all that is needed, so I'm confused now.03:23
dhqN6REJ: where can i get it03:23
N6REJlet me look.03:23
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dhqN6REJ: thanks03:23
Riddellpgquiles__: jigdo doesn't work like that, it needs .debs to download03:24
mcquaidi used to get excited about a new release but since I've switched to kde (with reps being available with the latest) I don't see so much of a need to upgrade03:25
mcquaiddoes feisty have a newer version of kde than the reps available for edgy?03:25
mcquaidnot talking about the kde version that ships with edgy, as I'm using the unofficial reps that keep kde up to date.03:25
N6REJdhq http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/03:25
toemcquaid: no03:25
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mcquaidya thats what i'm running03:26
pgquiles__Riddell: I know, but there are .jigdo files for -alternate and -server. Why not for -desktop?03:26
mcquaidso i'll wait awhile i guess for feisty03:26
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mcquaidcause it's just a huge upgrade to have basically the same thing03:26
toefor kubuntu users feisty doesn't bring that much of new & exciting stuff with it03:26
Riddellpgquiles__: I just said, it needs .debs to download03:26
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dhqN6REJ: which one to downloas03:27
N6REJdhq: down at the bottom look for vmware-any-any03:28
N6REJdhq: I don't know what it does other then patch the kernels and such.03:28
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pgquiles__Riddell: -alternate and -server also need .debs to download and they do have a .jigdo. The question is, why is it possible to create a .jigdo for -server and -alternate but not for -desktop?03:28
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dhqN6REJ: http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/vmware-any-any-update109.tar.gz03:29
Riddellpgquiles__: because the desktop CD is not made of .debs03:29
odin-arghalp :[ - there is no such program on kubuntu as "update-manager -c -d" how do i upgrade to feisty? :[03:29
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pgquiles__Riddell: ah, ok :-) What is it made of?03:30
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Riddellpgquiles__: a loopback filesystem03:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:33
pgquiles__Riddell: thank you03:33
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tdnHow do I see my CPU/System temperature in Ubuntu/Kubuntu? I have a Pentium 4. What do I need to do?03:36
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gordProbably been asked three dozen times but where is the option to turn off the bouncing mouse icon when a program is started?03:43
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gordProbably been asked three dozen (and one) times but where is the option to turn off the bouncing mouse icon when a program is started?03:45
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LastMallgord  good question03:46
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gordI've turned off the "Visual feedback on activation" option but the damn thing is still on03:47
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spawn57gord, try using kcontrol03:52
spawn57it's under appearance & themes -> launch feedback03:52
BluesKajI'm having probs with kubuntu shutdown , X keeps cycling off and on after logout .. I have to turn the power off manually ...any suggestions ?03:53
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duanerbI hate the control panel03:53
PeakerBluesKaj: what happens if you "sudo reboot" ?03:53
gordThanks spawn! :-)03:53
duanerbhow can i change the kdm theme?03:53
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BluesKajPeaker, dunno03:54
duanerbBluesKaj: try "sudo shutdown -h now"03:54
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icecruncherfeisty is out!03:54
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ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.03:56
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ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)03:56
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odin-argthe other one :[03:57
icecruncherhow can i upgrade from jre1.4 to 1.5?03:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:58
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.03:58
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BluesKajok, sudo shutdown -h now" worked . Where do I save that command to make it permamnent ?03:58
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calvarezit's out!03:58
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jbruckman!java | icecruncher03:59
ubotuicecruncher: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.03:59
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psb154icecruncher, once you have the java you want try: update-alternatives --config java04:00
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drknsi am trying to install the latest version of gimp and getting this error on config04:02
drknshecking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is require                                          d for intltool04:03
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fdovingdrkns: you need libxml-parser-perl04:03
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joaquincual es el servidor de los espaoles04:04
joaquinalguien lo sabe04:04
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hak5fanIs there a way to restore kmix default settings04:05
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jbruckmanhak5fan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kmix04:05
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jbruckmanshould do it04:06
jackaguacual es el servidor para los espaoles?04:06
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:06
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hak5fanjbruckman: It didn't work, but thanks anyway04:08
nozeyhttp://espelhos.edugraf.ufsc.br/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/feisty/ -> is this the final version?04:08
jbruckmanhak5fan: sorry it didn't work. :)04:09
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icecruncherhelp, my java is totaly messed up, i'll uninstall, then what should I install?04:09
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psb154icecruncher, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk04:10
ma3xwhere can I download kubuntu?04:10
ma3xthe site doesnt work!!!04:10
psb154icecruncher, or sun-java6-jre if you just want the runtime04:11
icecruncherpsb154L: i instaklled that earlier, but the old one is still active04:11
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psb154icecruncher,  try: update-alternatives --config java04:11
hak5fanjbruckman: Yes, I a little agry with linux and my self right now, because I can't get my printer working (samba shared) and I can't talk to my cousin because my mic doesn't work. I know it's working hardware wise because It worked yesterday but with a very low volume so I changed something and now it's "broken"04:11
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hak5fanjbruckman: but I refuse to leave ubuntu04:11
ma3xwtf do I get kubuntu?04:12
hak5fanma3x: Are you allready running ubuntu?04:12
spawn57you go to google, you type kubuntu...and...ah nm04:13
icecruncherpsb154: thanks a lot, :) working04:13
psb154good stuff. :-)04:13
ma3xhak5fan: NO04:13
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icecruncherpsb154: how can I remove the old stuff? unneeded stuff04:13
ma3xis kubuntu 6 10 the newest/?04:13
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hak5fanma3x: yes but 7.04 will be out very soon...04:14
psb154icecruncher, you would: sudo apt-get remove [packageName] 04:14
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spawn57ma3x: naw 7.04 is lol04:14
EvilIdlerWow, this is what I call a hammered server. Any .nyud.net repository mirrors? :P04:14
ma3xsparrw: is it out already??04:14
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icecruncherpsb154: and how would i fing out all the names?04:15
hak5fanma3x: Not really as far as i've heard, but you can get it somewhere it's very close to the realease version04:15
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spawn57icecruncher: dpkg -l for a list of instaleld packages, you might wanna try using adept instead04:16
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psb154icecruncher,  update-alternatives --config java should give you a clue to what is installed, with regards to java. Or man apt-get that might have something that would help.04:16
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hak5fanIs there a way to restore kmix default settings? since dpkg-reconfigure kmix didn't work I don't know what to do.............04:17
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spawn57hak5fan: default settings?04:17
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icecruncherpsb154: you've been a lot of help, thanks04:18
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drknshello again04:18
psb154no prob. thanks for acknowledgment :-)04:18
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drknsi am trying to install gimp and getting this error now04:18
drknsGLIB is incorrectly installed.04:18
drknsconfigure: error: Test for GLIB failed.04:18
drknswhich package do i need to install since when i look for glib manythings come up04:19
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IdleOne!info kvirc04:19
ubotukvirc: KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.4-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2871 kB, installed size 8644 kB04:19
icecruncherHappy Feisty everyone!!04:19
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odin-argwoo :D04:20
hak5fanspawn57: yes. I want to restore the kmix sttings to default. To be more precise, I want to set the config exactly the same as it was when I installed it04:20
hak5fanspawn57: becuase I screwed something up04:20
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BluesKajMOTD at ubuntu-release-party : FEISTY IS RELEASED!04:21
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BishiNightBirdthat it has been04:22
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spawn57hak5fan:ah, you can go into your ~/.kde/share/config and rename your kmixrtrlrc and kmixrc files, and restart kmix.  That *should* work04:22
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spawn57..feisty still doesnt' turn off desktop icons04:22
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spawn57even when I turn it off kcontrol =(04:22
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BishiNightBirdgood luck for getting any of the websites to load...04:23
BishiNightBirdprobably much less adept downloading updates...04:23
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WillLuongoHello, when I upgraded to Mozilla Firefox's newest version (from Mozilla) it no longer launches as the default web browser. What can I do to fix this?04:23
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odin-arghow long will it take for adept to inform us of update?04:24
BluesKajWillLuongo, sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser04:25
WillLuongoBluesKaj: Thank you04:25
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BluesKajodin-arg, dunno ...wondering that myself04:26
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WillLuongoBluesKaj: I did that, but it still doesn't work correctly.04:26
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BluesKajdid you choose the number beside FF ?04:26
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cytWillLuongo: Can't we just sudo aptitupde update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?04:27
WillLuongoBluesKaj: Yes, and it lists it as the default (with the star)04:27
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BluesKajmake sure FF isn't loaded04:27
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neonlinuxok.. first problems with feisty.. i get hang on the install at configuring wvdial (i have to kill the process to continue) and after the install finshes i get a blank screen (ati card).. i have to use terminal and install the ati drivers before i can get a gui04:28
hak5fanspawn57: I did what you told me. Renamed the files and rightclicced kmix icon and chose shutdown then I restarted kmix and for some reason it didn't work. I think I might need to reboot or something.. The strange thing is. The files are recreated04:28
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spawn57hak5fan: yeah it creates the files automaticially, that's normal.  I was hoping that would fix it04:29
BluesKajhak5fan, have you considered alsa ?04:29
Cugel"In Adept -> Manage Repositories enable edgy-updates"  -- what does that mean? I don't understand it.04:29
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bobesponjakubuntu.org seems very slow04:29
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BluesKajbobesponja, of course ...it's being flooded04:30
hak5fanBluesKaj: Alsa runs. kmix is to my knowlege only a gui but I might be wrong04:30
WillLuongocyt, BluesKaj: That updated some X11 stuff, but it did not change anything with the webbrowser.04:30
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bobesponjaBluesKaj: I can't get the link to the iso04:30
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WillLuongocyt, BluesKaj: It stopped working when I installed Firefox from Mozilla instead of from Adept, or apt-get. I wanted it to be able to do the automatic updates from mozilla rather than waiting for the packages to come in adept.04:31
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BluesKaj hak5 "alsamixer" in the konsole04:32
odin-argit works!04:32
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odin-argadept knows feisty is out!!04:32
BluesKajWillLuongo, did you enter the number beside FF in the terminal after the command ?04:33
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WillLuongoBluesKaj: yes, and it has the default star next to it.04:33
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BluesKajdoes FF open at all ?04:34
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WillLuongoBluesKaj: Yes, it opens and runs just fine, just it doesn't open from clicking links from other apps.04:34
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hak5fanI've got my mic working now... but with very low volume. How can I make it louder when the mic settings in kmix is set to full?04:35
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BluesKajyeah WillLuongo, I had the same problem , you still may have to make sure it's the default browser in FF edit/preferences/main04:36
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WillLuongoBluesKaj: I did that, it doesn't have any effect on the problem... :(04:37
francescahi, i've got a 64 bit intel processor, is there any reason why i shouldn't install kubuntu 64 bit?04:38
hak5fanAnd suddenly it's not working anymore wtf. And yes it's not a hardware fault because my mic works great in windblows04:38
BluesKajsorry WillLuongo, that's the extent of my knowledge ...other than try a reboot then see what happens04:38
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hak5fanMy mic is really driving me mad04:40
woodbis the fiesty torrent in the repos the final fiesty?  (the file date is today, but the iso's alongside the torrent are a few days old)04:40
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BluesKajthe repos don't have the updates yet ...adept is behind the curve04:41
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BluesKajhak5fan, try 'alsamixer' in the terminal ...make your adjustments there04:42
woodbannouncing the release before the repos have it is sorta cruel ya know :)04:42
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clonedI am following the update page to go from edgy to feisty, i have the updates repo enabled but i do not get the updater and full upgrade in adapt remains grayed out any thoughts04:43
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BluesKajwell , there 750 ppl in the "party" chat waiting to jump on the torrent , FTP, and HTTP , downloads04:44
hak5fanBluesKaj: For some reason it works now.,.... lol this is wierd04:44
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abattoircloned: following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades#head-6146e7b1dd7a50f5029fd0704e38cad9420c000a ?04:45
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abattoircloned: did you click 'Fetch Updates' after enabling that repo?04:46
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tictactatichi, anybody tried the dist upgrade instructions?04:47
clonedim trying them now04:48
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abattoircloned: you could either restart adept, and go through that routine again, or pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list04:48
tictactatici've followed them, but can't see the Version Upgrade button04:48
clonedsame here04:48
clonedi cant find it anywhere04:48
tictactatichas anyone seen it?04:49
clonedive never seen it04:49
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abattoirtictactatic, cloned: are your edgy systems up-to-date?04:50
clonedyep updated thismorning04:50
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CugelYay, I get the upgrade wizard!04:50
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CugelAdept -- run it _twice_.04:50
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Cugel"Welcome to Ubuntu 7.04 'Feisty Fawn'" --  I'm scared to hit 'next'.04:51
abattoirCugel: you mean you closed it and restarted it?04:51
CugelYes. And run fetch updates etc.04:51
CugelQuestion: can I leave everything running while it's upgrading/installing? I'm from Windows, so therefore the question.04:51
abattoirtictactatic, cloned: ^^^^ could you guys try that?04:51
tictactatici just did it04:52
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tictactaticquit adept, start again04:52
CugelWell, the tool is running!04:52
spawn57Cugel: what tool?04:52
instructorCugel: sure04:52
tictactaticheck, i can even kill the session04:52
CugelDistribution upgrade.04:52
abattoirtictactatic: and pressed Full Upgrade again?04:52
tictactaticand try running adept again04:52
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spawn57Cugel: yeah leave it running04:52
tictactaticabattoir: there is nothing to upgrade04:52
spawn57Cugel: just reboot after it's done04:53
clonedfetching updates...04:53
BrokenLinuxI hit fetch updates and get nothing, same as tict04:53
amigraveI didn't had to quit and restart adept04:53
Cugel"1021 packages are going to be upgraded" -- :-D04:53
amigravebut I has an update from wine repository, maybe it makes the difference04:53
abattoirtictactatic: did you upgrade KDE to 3.5.6?04:54
clonedsame as before04:54
abattoircloned: ^^^04:54
tictactaticyep, ages ago04:54
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CugelWell, I started getting the packages. Quite a few.04:54
WillLuongoI hit fetch updates and it immediately went to the update Kubuntu prompt04:54
tictactaticand abattoir i enabled the repository04:54
tictactatici.e. added it04:54
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clonedtotaly up to date  im on kde 5.4704:54
abattoircloned: ???04:55
amigravecloned: how is Qt 5 looking ?04:55
abattoirtictactatic: could you run 'sudo apt-get update' and see if updates are being fetched from edgy-updates and the 3.5.6 repo?04:56
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HymnToLife[16:54]  <cloned> totaly up to date  im on kde 5.47 <= wow, could you loan me your DeLorean someday ? :p04:56
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firecrotchis kubuntu.org loading at barely a crawl for everyone else?04:57
clonedsez candidate version: 5:4704:57
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clonedkde base 4:3.4.304:58
BluesKajfirecrotch, it's what we should expect today04:58
HymnToLifeKDE 3.4.3 is definitely not up to date :p04:58
abattoircloned: try Helop->About KDE04:58
space_ninjais there a new version of kubuntu?04:58
tictactaticabattoir: and all, sorry, starting adept again, hitting on the fetch updates again04:58
tictactaticnow i got the wizard04:59
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abattoirtictactatic: oh, ok, cool04:59
abattoirspace_ninja: yeah, Kubuntu 7.04 was released a while ago04:59
clonedi never said it was im just saying the extra repo for thae latest version of kde has not been added and does not apply to my update scheme that is not working04:59
BluesKajno upgrades to the officail release available in North America yet04:59
BrokenLinuxtictactatic: did it work after running apt-get update?04:59
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BluesKajerr official05:00
Daisuke_IPFWa banner day for me and linux05:00
tictactaticBrokenLinux: never got to that05:00
Gh0st75hello folks05:00
BrokenLinuxtictactatic: what did you do that made it work?05:00
Daisuke_IPFWi finally go the go-ahead from my fiancee to install kubuntu on her laptop (even if it is dual boot) AND feisty gets released :D05:00
instructorDaisuke_IPFW: How so?05:00
Gh0st75anyone know if k3b can burn to DL DVDs?05:00
Daisuke_IPFWGh0st75: with growisofs05:01
tictactaticBrokenLinux: started adept again, then told it to fetch updates, then finally the wizard popped up05:01
Daisuke_IPFWi believe05:01
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BluesKajDaisuke_IPFW, adept still hasn't got the repos upgraded to the 'Official' release05:01
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BrokenLinuxahh, I've done that like 5 times!05:01
Daisuke_IPFWi always get notes about that, but since i don't burn DLs, meh05:01
Gh0st75i try to copy a list of files totalling 7.9gb and it only seems to have room for 4.4gb05:01
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Daisuke_IPFWBluesKaj: i'm gonna download the iso and do it that way05:01
tictactaticBrokenLinux: did you hit on fetch updates, though?05:01
N6REJhow do you "map" a smb share?  I can make a link to it on my desktop but I want it to be automatically reachable by all apps.05:02
N6REJlike amarok05:02
CugelDo fetch updates and get all. The quit adept and run it again, and do again 'fetch updates'. It worked for me.05:02
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BrokenLinuxtictactatic: yes05:02
tictactaticthat was the step i hadn't done, since i assumed i had updated all previously05:02
duanerbamarok deleted all of the music on my ipod :(05:02
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N6REJDaisuke_IPFW: I don't understand.05:03
BluesKajCugel, I'm on Festy beta05:03
firecrotchduanerb: But you have it all backed up, right?05:03
BluesKajerr Feisty beta05:03
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BrokenLinuxI've added deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/ edgy main to my repos and it just times out when fetch updates gets there05:03
Daisuke_IPFWi'm having a litle battle.  install vs. batery life, because i had to pick the ONE study area in the entire building *without* a power outlet.05:03
Daisuke_IPFW...though that would explain why it wasn't being used :\05:03
Cugelbroken: try again (a few times if necessary :-)05:04
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CugelI think we're all crossing ourselves here. But I'm at file 254 out of 1110.05:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kioslaves - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:04
clickwirI prefer vim's  %s/edgy/feisty/s method of upgrading.05:04
intelikeyanyone know why "mount" would show "udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)" when i don't use udev ?05:05
intelikeyand /dev is the static "on disk" devices   ^05:05
space_ninjawhat's wrong with kubuntu's webpage+05:05
firecrotchspace_ninja: It's getting hammered right now, so it's not loading05:06
intelikeycould that be left over from the initramfs ?05:06
Daisuke_IPFWoh, and at least at this school, a great reason to use linux over windows: for wireless access in windows you have to install an app that literally takes over your wireless, whereas with linux it's a matter of starting wpa_supplicant :)05:07
tictactaticdamn, it's stuck fetching file 124 of 128 at the Preparing the upgrade stage05:07
tictactaticabattoir: you think i should kill it?05:07
tictactaticand try again?05:07
compilerwriterati7500 and I are trying to get him setup with connection sharing:  I have tried to help him following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370&highlight=internet+connection+share could someone please take a look and advise?05:08
clickwirtictactatic: sure. it'll pickup where it left off05:08
intelikeyhmmmp  upgrade day.  i'll come back in a weak or two.05:08
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Daisuke_IPFWi can't say i blame him05:08
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BluesKajyeah , once ppl have their upgrades installed, this chat is gonna be one busy beehive :)05:09
Daisuke_IPFWwell, it usualy is anyway05:09
abattoirtictactatic: sorry, was afk, guess it's timing out because of the huge load05:09
xt{c}hey folks, where can I download the new kubuntu? (kubuntu.org is inaccessible)05:09
acidBURNsaw that05:10
Daisuke_IPFWmy guess would be to wait a while, because the servers are getting hammered05:10
abattoirxt{c}: which part of the world are you from(so i could get you the link for a mirror close-by) ?05:10
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Daisuke_IPFWah, mirrors :D05:10
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xt{c}slaughterhouse: georgia, usa05:11
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CugelSo far it's still working, almost halfway there. My network card should now be automatically supported by the kernel. I'm prepared for problems.05:12
xt{c}BluesKaj...i want kubuntu05:12
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xt{c}gnome makes me nauseous05:12
firecrotchI'm working on getting a i386 CD mirror up05:12
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Daisuke_IPFWxt{c}: so install that then install the kubuntu-desktop package05:12
Daisuke_IPFWsame difference :)05:12
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BluesKajsorry xt{c} , wasn't paying close enuff attn05:12
compilerwriterdaisuke_ipfw are you in Indiana?05:13
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tictactaticFailed to lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock05:13
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compilerwriterHow goes it up there in NE corner of the state?05:13
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abattoirxt{c}: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/05:13
blekoshas the new version been released yet?05:13
Daisuke_IPFWquiet, for the most part05:13
Daisuke_IPFWblekos: yes05:13
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compilerwriterIs WOWO still on the air?05:14
Daisuke_IPFWas it states in the topic05:14
Daisuke_IPFWwowo will never go off the air05:14
Daisuke_IPFWthough they're nowhere near as powerful as they used to be05:14
tictactaticthough it says "This is usually some network problem...:05:14
compilerwriterKind of like WIBC here in the central part of the state.05:14
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blekosi do sudo apt-get upgrade  but i get the message 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:14
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Daisuke_IPFWi remember when i could pick up WOWO in munice05:14
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Daisuke_IPFWthough this is offtopic :)05:14
blekosany ideas?05:15
compilerwriterI know I nearly wrecked the delivery van I was driving when I heard the call sign WOWO.05:15
xt{c}what is different about the "alternate" install cd?05:15
compilerwriterWas a good talk show though.05:15
Daisuke_IPFWxt{c}: not a live cd05:15
Daisuke_IPFWtext installer05:15
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Daisuke_IPFWwell,install's finished, time for me to run05:15
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Sannext{c}: it's not a live cd, it's installer is text based with a bit more options, you can use it as a repository.05:15
BluesKajNorthern Ontario here ...WOWO was very strong at night , when i was a kid ...that was a loooooonnnnggtime ago05:15
Daisuke_IPFWi shall be back shortly on a real install05:15
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bentonnazi'm running feisty rc2 do i need to reinstall or will all upgrades give me new stable release05:16
blekosnone of the sites seem to work work correctly05:16
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blekosupgrade will give u a stable release05:16
Cugelblekos: well we'll see if it's stable :P05:17
bentonnazcool - this distro rocks!05:17
blekoslol, hop it is05:17
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firecrotchIsn't rc2 the same as the release version?05:17
rfariashow can i update my version of kubuntu05:17
BluesKajthe Feisty repos don't have the upgrade available yet05:17
clickwirblekos: what does your /etc/apt/sources.lst file say? dapper, edgy or feisty?05:17
blekossudo apt-get update05:17
blekossudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:18
berkescongrats to all the kubuntu devs for yet another fabulous release!05:18
BluesKajgood luck05:18
blekose.g Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/multiverse Packages05:18
rfariasdoesn't exist and comman like ubuntu05:18
rfarias$ gksudo update-manager -c -d05:18
bentonnaz" the Feisty repos don't have the upgrade available yet" - when will it be available05:19
clickwirblekos: sounds like you are already totally upgraded05:19
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rfariasok bentonnaz05:19
rfariasso, when?05:19
blekos:( hope i aint, cause i have few probs with my external hd...05:19
acidBURNnothing as of yet05:19
blekosbentonnaz mentioned that the update isnt yet available05:20
bentonnazthat's what BluesKaj said05:20
rfariasok thanks my friend05:20
BrokenLinuxAnyone have the link to the new kubuntu torrent?05:20
BluesKaj been trying 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade'...no change05:20
blekosthe site of (k)ubuntu were down for a long time 2day05:20
rfariasits up05:20
blekosguess we have to wait05:21
BluesKaj<---Feisty Beta05:21
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rfariasi've benn navigate on there05:21
blekosthe ubuntu site is not right yet05:21
bentonnazthey're probably just overloaded05:21
clickwirblekos: well, you could try changing from gb.archive.ubuntu.com to just archive.ubuntu.com and see if that does anything more. Could be the gb. mirror doesn't have the updates yet05:21
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blekosmight give it a try l8r05:21
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BluesKajgive Shuttleworth a call ! :)05:22
aaroncampbellI have a strange problem with Kubuntu Feisty.  Sometimes when I boot, sda and sdb are switched.  sda is my main drive, and sdb is a RAID running on a 3WARE card, and mounting in /home05:22
clickwirHey marky, how's it going.05:22
imaginekubuntu.org seems to suffer from an heavy load hehe05:22
clonedi cannot get this "Version Upgrade button" the instructions speak of to show up to save my life05:22
BluesKajno kidding eh , imagine05:22
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BrokenLinuxAnyone have the link to the new kubuntu torrent?05:22
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aaroncampbellIn fstab, the main device has a UUID (whatever that is), and it seems to mount properly no matter whether it is hda or hdb.  However, the other doesn't05:23
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blekospatient broken patient05:23
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abattoirBrokenLinux: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent05:23
abattoirfor i386, of course05:23
bentonnazjust curious - why kubuntu reads my partitions as sda and other distros reads as hda05:23
clonedBrokenLinux: http://espelhos.edugraf.ufsc.br/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent05:23
BluesKajBrokenLinux, in the US or Canada : http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/05:23
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BrokenLinuxthanks all :)05:23
imagineno i686 install?05:23
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aaroncampbellbentonnaz: I think it's something in the new kernels...05:24
imagineBrokenLinux: yeah good luck with that05:24
saveme1that all folf05:24
BluesKajit's an x86 install05:24
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clickwirbentonnaz: I think it's the way the kernel is going. I think the /sdX model will be standard in 2.6.2105:24
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bentonnazdoesn't really matter - as long as it works05:24
clickwirand the ubuntu boys just intergrated that into 2.6.20 for giggles05:24
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vlatkofellas, newbie here, I just installed Kubuntu Feisty and I don't know how to enable nVidia drivers. Can anyone help out?05:25
blekosthis is the 3d time i change my repos (from gr, to gb, no to ...) nothing happens...05:25
blekoswell it's quite simple...05:25
BluesKajDLing the new Feisty torrent...might just install that on / , already have /home on a separate partition05:25
WillLuongoviatko: What kind of video card do you have?05:25
vlatkonvidia 660gt05:26
blekosa)there is (was) a tutorial online just google ubuntu nvidia05:26
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blekos2) the drivers should be in your adept manager05:26
WillLuongovlatko: I was going to tell you the same thing05:26
blekos3, go to nvidia.com and follow the instructions they are quite ok05:26
clickwir3.... I was waiting for D05:26
imagineI think this is the day where I will change from SuSE to Kubuntu finally...05:26
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vlatkoalright, I thought they come preinstalled, you just have to enable them. That's what this howto says anyway: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359367&highlight=nvidia+kubuntu+feisty05:27
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clickwirimagine: if you can download it.... welcome!05:27
imagineclickwir: I am.. just started the torrent05:27
bentob0xwhen I start Konqueror, I have this error : "could not find mine type" "application/octet-stream", I click OK then Konqueror runs05:27
imaginedamn.. so many leechers!05:28
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BluesKajimagine, you'll enjoy Kubuntu a lot ...the repositoris are much superior and stable vs Yast05:28
BrokenLinux32 seeders :o05:28
bentonnazdid u try control center - > peripherals - > monitor & display and make sure monitor is set correctly there05:28
bentob0xI have it also each time I rollover any desktop icon05:28
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Daisuke_IPFWi forgot, no real irc client for me (right now, from here).  school won't allow it, so it's irssi over ssh05:29
Daisuke_IPFWsince i haven't figures out how to set up a socks proxy yet05:30
imagineBluesKaj: that has to be seen... :) But I think I'll keep suse for my laptop for the moment ;)05:30
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BluesKajimagine, suse was just too frustrating for me05:30
LastMallannouncements up on distrowatch now05:30
tictactaticabattoir: now the upgrade utility just dies unceremoniously05:30
Daisuke_IPFWsuse has one feature i love05:31
Daisuke_IPFWthe new menu05:31
tictactaticafter that wizard05:31
gdiebelHas anyone experienced really slow scrolling/refresh in kateparts when using dynamic wrap and a really long string, like a png base64 encoded?05:31
imagineBluesKaj: well if you get the right repo.. yast is wonderful..05:31
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Daisuke_IPFWthough i switch it back to kmenu style (though the enhancements in that mode are what i like - most used apps and such)05:31
BluesKajthat new menu can be added to KDE if you want05:32
Daisuke_IPFWimagine: here, they're all the right repo :)05:32
Daisuke_IPFWBluesKaj: i know, i use it :)05:32
firecrotchIf anyone is interested, the Portland University mirror is pretty fast right now05:32
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Daisuke_IPFWsevere packet shaping for torrent on campus.  enough to make me cry05:32
RogueJediXfirecrotch: I am. What's the URL?05:32
imaginewhat's pretty fast for you ?05:32
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imagineI am downloading the torrent @ 60k/sec05:32
BluesKajI like lists , icons are for eye candy lovers...not a purist , but i do like simplicity05:33
firecrotchRogueJediX: http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu-iso/kubuntu/feisty/05:33
abattoirtictactatic: any chance of it actually having finished upgrading?05:33
RogueJediXfirecrotch: Thanks05:33
Daisuke_IPFWBluesKaj: i don't use the new-style, i switch back to classic kmenu style :)05:33
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firecrotchRogueJediX: np05:33
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tictactaticabattoir: nope, never finished the first stage05:33
firecrotchI'm getting >500kb/s05:33
BluesKaj440Kb/s DL here05:33
abattoirtictactatic: this is the downloads stage?05:33
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Daisuke_IPFWthere's so much i need to install now...  this is why i hate setting up new systems05:34
tictactaticyep, the preparing upgrade stage05:34
tictactaticthe one that got stuck at 124 out of 12705:34
BrokenLinuxso this is a current version? kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso    17-Apr-2007 05:5505:34
abattoirtictactatic: i'm guessing it's a problem w/ the server05:34
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firecrotchBrokenLinux:  Yep, that's the release version05:34
Bitrexmy updater is falling over at a point in the fetching updates too05:34
BluesKajstill no upgrades in the repos ...what gives ?05:35
Bitrex"Unable to find expected entry  deb/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file"05:35
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CugelMine's at 1017 packages.05:35
tictactaticabattoir:  but now when i go to Adept, i hit refresh, and then it says it has problem downolading updates... but then it launches the upgrade utility05:35
pollyoAnyone familiar with the package ubutun-live-support?05:35
instructorWoah #ubuntu is packed05:35
Daisuke_IPFWinstructor: even this channel is about 100 people over the norm05:36
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Daisuke_IPFWwhoa.  we're not THAT packed >_<05:36
abattoirtictactatic: i'd suggest switching to another mirror if you can...05:36
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tictactatici just wanted to see what's wrong with the downloads, went to command line and said sudo apt-get upgrade05:37
tictactaticand it reported i couldn't access the resource05:37
tictactaticand i have exited Adept05:38
tictactaticmaybe the upgrade utility is hanging somewhere05:38
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tictactaticany idea what it's called, so I can kill it?05:38
rstancais there a difference upgrading by update-manager -c than dist-upgrade?05:38
Jucatorstanca: update-manager isn't installed on Kubuntu. try using Adept05:38
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BitrexI get the following when trying to upgrade: "Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/Release  Unable to find expected entry  deb/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)05:39
rstancaJucato: i upgraded last night, dist-upgrade, no issue so far :)05:39
rstancaworks like a charm05:39
tictactaticabattoir: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:39
tictactaticE: Unable to lock the list directory05:39
rstancajust curios if there`s a difference05:39
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wolferinetoday the day?05:39
Daisuke_IPFWmusic streaming works like a dream :D05:39
Jucatorstanca: thought you were looking for a GUI app.05:39
firecrotchBitrex: I don't think the upgrage is completely onto the repo servers yet05:39
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abattoirtictactatic: hmm... could you try 'sudo fuser -vki  /var/lib/apt/lists/lock' (Do this if you're sure it was only downloading the packages)05:40
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abattoirtictactatic: it'd give you the option to kill the app using that file05:40
abattoiryaay! Jucato is here :)05:40
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BitrexI guess I'll just wait a while then :)05:41
tictactaticabattoir: it never said anything else05:41
tictactaticwill try05:41
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nozeycan someone gime a direct torrent link to kubuntu 7.04?05:42
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Bitrexhere's a longshot question but since so many people are here -- anyone ever managed to get the digital output of an Echo Mia soundcard working05:42
Bitrexunder Kubuntu?05:42
clickwirdang, download via apt-get dist-upgrade says it has over 7hours left to go. And it's already downloaded 216 packages.05:42
abattoirnozey: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent05:42
nozeyabattoir, is it the final iso?05:42
abattoirnozey: that's the desktop, i386 iso05:42
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abattoirnozey: yup05:42
nozeythank you05:42
abattoiryou're welcome05:43
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firecrotchI'll have a desktop-i386.iso mirror up shortly05:43
CugelWhat the hell it failed on package 1110 out of 1110.05:43
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CugelHow do I _restart_ the upgrade manager?05:44
clickwirclose it and reopen it?05:44
Frost^Hello. I have 2 cifs mount lines in fstab, and they are not being mounted at startup.05:45
psb154OpenOffice 2.2 very nice. :-)05:45
Frost^When I do a `sudo mount /mnt/point` it works just fine.05:45
Frost^Any idea what can be causing this? Or how to fix it?05:45
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pgquiles_is the ISO dated April 17th the good one?05:45
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firecrotchpgquiles_: Yep05:46
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mackymanARG! Update Tool crashed >_<05:46
CugelAnd I reopen it how?05:46
terrestresome one know if the shipit of 2 days ago its was for feisty too?05:46
mackymanWhat to do?05:46
clickwirpsb154: You can make it faster by disabling java. Options > java then uncheck it. Close it and reopen, it's much faster. Most people dont use the java extras anway and they really slow it down.05:46
psb154The new network configuration app with tray icon, also vn05:46
nbogdanoffanyone else have issues with rdesktop with the display gettings blurry, or lines repeating when scrolling.  or if i drag a window the contents of that window becomes unreadable. -- the window displays part of the actual contents, but repeated throughout.  its all distorted basically.  ive got X running just fine with the proper drivers on dual monitor.  any ideas?05:46
mackymanJust reboot and hope for the best?05:46
wolferinetoday the day? Feisty out?05:46
firecrotchwolferine: Yep05:46
wolferinedoesnt that brun?05:47
psb154clickwir: :-D I develop in java das-me-job :-)05:47
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firecrotchwolferine: You get used to it after a while :P05:47
CugelQ: how do I restart the upgrade-manager (from console for example) -- no menu option or something is there.05:47
clickwiroh well then you'll probably need that part :p05:47
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clickwirCugel: how did you open/run it the first time?05:47
Frost^Hmm, does anyone know about that cifs not mounting at boot part?05:48
firecrotchCugel: killall -9 upgrade-manager05:48
psb154thanks for the tip though. I use OOffice all day too for specs and stuff and 2.2 looks and feels great.05:48
Cugelclickwir: it downloaded the packages but gave an error at the last package, then I closed it (no other option). So now I want to try again.05:48
psb154its a bit like christmas05:48
terrestreis kde4 in feisty posible?05:48
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firecrotchterrestre:  There will probably be a kde4 package for feisty when kde4 comes out05:48
clickwirohhh 747KB/sec...... on CentOS 5 :o05:49
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firecrotchterrestre: if not, then you'll have to install from the source code, or wait until Grumpy05:50
mackymanAnyone know what to do if the upgrade tool crashes? Anything I can do?05:50
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Bitrexhungry hungry hippppppoo05:50
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terrestrefirecrotch: maybe i will try the source option05:51
dusty-workHey guys I am still on edgy, is there a guide on how to upgrade to the latest release?05:51
tictactaticmackyman: i followed abattoir's instructions, killed the process05:51
tictactaticfound out i had several of those running05:51
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tattersI cannot find a section to select screen saver , where is it located?05:51
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terrestredusty-work: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading05:52
clickwirdusty-work: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.lst then type :%s/edgy/feisty/s then : w q then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:52
BluesKajdusty-work, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/05:52
mackymantictactatic: Whant then?05:53
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CugelThe repos seem to be hit very hard. Maybe I'll just give it a day or two.05:53
tictactaticmackyman: still trying to figure out05:53
firecrotchCugel:  Good idea.  Or you can download the alternate install CD and use that05:53
CugelBut won't the install CD overwrite my home dir etc?05:54
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firecrotchCugel: you can use the alternate install CD to do an upgrade without losing anything05:54
bentonnazis there a shell command to find out what version kubuntu i have / what kernel / etc.05:54
MidMarksolution for samba update failure?05:54
BitrexI'm going to try that05:54
gost87hola a todos05:54
MidMarkdistro upgrade is stopped now :(05:55
firecrotchhola, gost87!05:55
luposo is kubuntu.org also under pressure?05:55
the_hammeranyone here using kubuntu 7.04 beta feighsty?05:55
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firecrotch!es | gost8705:55
dusty-workthanks guys05:55
ubotugost87: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:55
clickwirbentonnaz: uname -a05:55
luposlashdot check05:55
clickwirbentonnaz: cat /etc/lsb-release05:55
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gost87perdon me equivo que05:55
gost87si yase05:56
mackymantictactatic: Do you think it will be safe to reboot and hope for the best?05:56
the_hammerim wondering how to make trash can look like a trash can with a lid on it05:56
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Cugelfire: sounds good to me: where do I find the 'alternate' version?05:56
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Bitrexso if I understand correctly - i can get the alternate install .iso and upgrade from the disc rather than trying to pull down all the packages using adept?05:56
clickwirBitrex: : yes05:56
abattoirCugel: want a .torrent for it?05:56
Bitrexexcellent - thanks!05:56
Cugelabattoir: yeah, sure.05:56
tictactaticmackyman: not sure... i for one, will leave this machine on05:56
MidMarksomeone else having trouble with distro upgrade and samba?05:56
abattoirCugel: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent05:56
firecrotchBitrex:  Yep :)05:57
instructorimagine: KonGrats05:57
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imagineinstructor: ?05:57
Frost^<MidMark> someone else having trouble with distro upgrade and samba? -> What exactly are you experiencing?05:57
bentonnazlooks like i am already upgraded and up-to-date (cat /etc/lsb-release) :))05:57
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the_hammerthe finnsl new kubuntu released yet?or we still in 7.04 beta?05:58
clickwirthe_hammer: check the topic. Feisty is final.05:58
MidMarkFrost^: 2007-04-19 17:51:45,244 ERROR got an error from dpkg for pkg: '/var/cache/apt/archives/samba_3.0.24-2ubuntu1_i386.deb': 'il sottoprocesso nuovo script di post-removal ha restituito un codice di errore 13405:58
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MidMarkdist-upgrade is stopped and I don't know what I have to do05:59
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wolferinewhy is it that the .isos for ANY *buntu release is weird on an FTP?05:59
LjL!mini | Cugel, there's also this05:59
ubotuCugel, there's also this: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD05:59
Frost^Well, I didn't have that.05:59
Frost^But I've used feisty before its release, so.05:59
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CugelNo problem, I managed to restart that distribution upgrade again :-)05:59
the_hammeri got the beta version 7.04 so theres another 7.04 then now?05:59
wolferinethe_hammer, no06:00
wolferineits the same one06:00
wolferineyou might just have to update it06:00
terrestresomeone have asking for cds?06:00
clickwirthe_hammer: if you are on the beta, just do and update and it'll get you to the final.06:00
the_hammeri just wanted a copy of the finnal06:01
the_hammerlike cd i mean06:01
wolferinewhat is the fiesty channel again?06:01
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BluesKajclickwir, the repos don't have the upgrades yet06:02
firecrotchwolferine: #ubuntu+1 just redirects to #ubuntu06:02
stdinthe_hammer: oh, btw, feisty CD are available from ShipIt https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ :)06:02
tictactaticmackyman: abat06:02
mackymantictactatic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=340450&highlight=upgrade+clean I think this can solve my problem atlast, maybe yours too =)06:02
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tictactaticabattoir: i am quitting for now, on this machine, will wait for smaller loads on server06:03
tictactaticthanks for your help06:03
wolferinehey firecrotch see my question about FTPs?06:03
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tictactaticwill resume tomorrow06:03
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firecrotchwolferine:  What do you mean by "weird" ?06:03
mackymantictactatic: abat?06:04
wolferinewell, its not a file you can just click and dl directly06:04
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