| Cugel | I've seen countdown clocks./ | 12:13 |
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| BloodyTux | lol | 12:14 |
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| dettoalt1imenti | arwen oh well, the tty terminal is still pretty cool | 12:14 |
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| Arwen | hehe | 12:14 |
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| livingdaylight | mc: so why do they say 19th? 12pm? | 12:14 |
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| Cugel | ubuntuforums.org dudes. | 12:14 |
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| BloodyTux | i want kde 4... whats so special about kde 4 anyways? | 12:14 |
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| Kamui | multiple file unzipping? | 12:14 |
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| Arwen | dettoalt1imenti, how is it you have 1280x800? lol - that's a really odd aspect ratio | 12:14 |
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| mc | BloodyTux: google for it | 12:14 |
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| livingdaylight | stoft: are you kidding? this feels like Christmas... i get all antsy and i wake up early ready to open presents | 12:14 |
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| yung__ | sanne: could you explain again how you fix your problem? | 12:14 |
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| dettoalt1imenti | arwen- I have a toshiba satellite laptop, it might be some kind of 'widescreen' resolution | 12:15 |
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| yung__ | sanne: you modified xorg.conf file right? remove other resolutions in the screen section | 12:15 |
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| mc | BloodyTux: kde4 will be the first 4d desktops,with a real TimeMachine integrated,with which you can travel forward an backwards in time so that you get more work done in less time | 12:15 |
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| BloodyTux | ... | 12:15 |
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| stoft | livingdaylight: I know what you mean, I misread the date a few days ago and thought it would be the 17th... :-( But it's the easiest way to get through... | 12:15 |
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| Arwen | dettoalt1imenti, ah - huh, guess you get what you deserve... (btw, 800 is a really small number for vertical resolution) | 12:15 |
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| mc | BloodyTux: just google for it,for example Koffice 2.0 has got some great concepts | 12:16 |
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| Arwen | mc, time machine = fail... | 12:16 |
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| Sanne | yung__: sure. But maybe it's easier if we both look at your xorg.conf. Could you paste it to paste.ubuntu-nl.org? | 12:16 |
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| mc | BloodyTux: kde4 will have more eye-candy and will(hopefully) use less memory | 12:16 |
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| mc | Arwen: sure? | 12:16 |
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| BloodyTux | yea mc, the TimeMachine was removed after a lawsuit of when a tester got stuck in 40000000 bc | 12:16 |
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| Arwen | mc, very sure... | 12:16 |
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| livingdaylight | stoft: i don't have any beer in the house to take my mind off things | 12:17 |
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| BloodyTux | :) | 12:17 |
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| stoft | livingdaylight: your house is broken. ;) | 12:17 |
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| mc | BloodyTux: and i thought microsoft had a patent on time machines and that would be the reason :) | 12:17 |
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| mc | Arwen: really? | 12:17 |
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| Arwen | mc, yeah... I don't want any kind of timeshifting in my gui, thank you... | 12:17 |
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| mc | Arwen: hm,ok,so no mac os x for you? | 12:18 |
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| BloodyTux | we're sure, besides too many dinos are loose in toronto now... | 12:18 |
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| Arwen | especially because that usually translates to "insecure and massive disk cache" | 12:18 |
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| Arwen | mc, hell no | 12:18 |
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| Arwen | I'm not buying an OS that's DRMed to only work on *1* platform | 12:18 |
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| Arwen | now, away from this tangent... | 12:18 |
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| BloodyTux | !offtopic | 12:18 |
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| ubotu | #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! | 12:18 |
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| mc | hehe... | 12:18 |
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| yung__ | sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16321/ | 12:18 |
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| BloodyTux | :) | 12:18 |
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| yung__ | sanne: I modified like that.. | 12:18 |
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| stoft | livingdaylight: see u in offtopic | 12:19 |
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| livingdaylight | stoft: #kubuntu-offtopic? | 12:19 |
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| stoft | livingdaylight: yes | 12:19 |
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| Sanne | yung__: yes, that's what I meant. You use 1024x768? If so, and it didn't help, it's indeed a different problem. Or not... you can try not to log out, but kill the xserver by hitting ctrl-alt-backspace. | 12:20 |
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| Sanne | yung__: so you would force that xorg.conf would get read anew | 12:21 |
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| yung__ | sanne: yes I'm using 1024x768.. | 12:21 |
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| soulrider | anyone here ever used solaris? | 12:22 |
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| soulrider | i got hre DVDs from sun and installed it today but it took over 3 hours!! | 12:22 |
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| Sanne | yung__: I would try kinning X. You won't get your session saved, then. just so you know. KDM will come up again after that, so you can log in again. | 12:22 |
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| Sanne | s/kinning/killing | 12:23 |
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| mc__ | soulrider: me,solaris express | 12:23 |
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| yung__ | hmm. | 12:23 |
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| yung__ | sanne: thank sanne.. | 12:24 |
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| Sanne | yung__: if this doesn't help, reboot. If it still doesn't help, it's a different problem, I would say. | 12:25 |
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| Sanne | yung__: you're welcome. | 12:25 |
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| BloodyTux | i'm installing like 50 games :) most which i won't ever use | 12:25 |
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| BloodyTux | ... | 12:25 |
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| Arwen | BloodyTux, 50 games? as in Doom 3 kind of games? or Sudoku kind of games? | 12:25 |
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| soulrider | mc__: does it take ages to boot? i installed solaris express too, and it took ages! | 12:25 |
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| mc__ | soulrider: well,it doesnt boot as fast as kubuntu | 12:26 |
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| BloodyTux | idk, just random games, almost all from games in adept | 12:26 |
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| twobrandys | Its the Final Countdown! | 12:26 |
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| twobrandys | Long live Martell! | 12:26 |
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| mc__ | soulrider: about a minute i think | 12:26 |
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| Arwen | BloodyTux, hehe | 12:26 |
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| mc__ | BloodyTux: some very good ones are:netpanzers,cube,sauerbraten,wormus,liero | 12:27 |
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| mc__ | s/wormus/wormux | 12:27 |
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| Arwen | Nexuiz ftw! | 12:27 |
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| BloodyTux | k | 12:27 |
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| Arwen | anyway, I get cpu spikes whenever beryl does anything, that's not normal is it? | 12:27 |
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| mc__ | BloodyTux: enemey territory is great to,but there is no package | 12:27 |
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| mc__ | Arwen:yes | 12:27 |
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| Arwen | mc__, oh... yay | 12:28 |
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| BloodyTux | :( | 12:28 |
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| Arwen | anyawy, mc__, tried Nexuiz? :-) | 12:28 |
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| BloodyTux | anything like risk? | 12:28 |
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| Sanne | http://www.linux-gamers.net/ is a nice site for games | 12:28 |
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| mc__ | Arwen: of course! but i get owned all the time ;( | 12:28 |
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| mc__ | BloodyTux: Lux | 12:28 |
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| Arwen | mc__, same :-\ | 12:28 |
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| Arwen | mc__, and it kernel panics my system... that's ATI for you | 12:28 |
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| mc__ | Arwen: btw: are you running Beryl on XGL or AIGLX? | 12:28 |
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| Arwen | mc__, AIGLX | 12:28 |
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| mc__ | Arwen: hehe,ATI sucks all the time,im proud to be an nvidia user | 12:29 |
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| Arwen | mc__, with the state of ATI, Intel cards run better and faster :-\ | 12:29 |
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| mc__ | Arwen: have you tried XGL? it seems to offer better performance sometimes | 12:29 |
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| Arwen | no.... XGL = fail | 12:29 |
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| mc__ | Arwen: have ya tried it with the lates driver? or with that one in the packages? | 12:29 |
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| Arwen | mc__, fglrx = fail too... | 12:30 |
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| BloodyTux | any snes emulators? | 12:30 |
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| Arwen | BloodyTux, yes, fceu | 12:30 |
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| BloodyTux | gotcha | 12:30 |
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| coreymon77 | BloodyTux: also zsnes | 12:31 |
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| BloodyTux | k | 12:31 |
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| coreymon77 | BloodyTux: which i personally think is better | 12:31 |
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| coreymon77 | BloodyTux: zsnes can be gotten through apt | 12:32 |
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| mc__ | Arwen: is your card suppoerted? | 12:32 |
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| coreymon77 | anybody know of a kubuntu n64 emulator | 12:32 |
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| Arwen | mc__, yeah, borderline - it's r370 | 12:32 |
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| mc__ | coreymon77: google knows it | 12:32 |
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| soulrider | hey guys, in Open office calc i pasted some values, they are all similar to 1.3177304 but open office just shows 1.32 | 12:32 |
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| soulrider | i need it to show the whole value because i gotta copuy them into scilab | 12:32 |
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| Arwen | coreymon77, there is one, but it's not in the repositories because of legal issues | 12:32 |
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| soulrider | any ideas ? | 12:32 |
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| mc__ | soulrider: you can somewhere change the precision,number format or something | 12:33 |
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| mc__ | Arwen: well,who needs Beryl anyways? | 12:33 |
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| Arwen | mc__, oh no, beryl works, but anything that's seriously GPU intensive causes kernel panics.. | 12:33 |
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| BloodyTux | anyone here play poker2d? | 12:33 |
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| soulrider | if i click the thing it shows the whole number, but if i dont it shows an aproximation | 12:33 |
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| twobrandys | stoft|away: its nearly midnight here | 12:33 |
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| soulrider | mc__: i like having beryl around, makes my desktop feel frendlier | 12:33 |
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| soulrider | and windows users pee their pants | 12:34 |
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| Arwen | soulrider, lol, Aero... | 12:34 |
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| mc__ | i just need it to show off | 12:34 |
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| mc__ | Aero is nothing against Beryl | 12:34 |
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| Gh0st75 | coreymon77 still no luck. i think there may be an issue with the system time on Kubuntu tho, it was 2 hours ahead, so i reset it to the correct time (after trying the commands again), and now when i try the commands it seems i have to wait for the time to match to what it was before | 12:34 |
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| coreymon77 | oh damn | 12:35 |
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| Arwen | mc__, hehe, dunno, only Beryl feature I really use are the animations and the window picker | 12:35 |
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| coreymon77 | i remember that | 12:35 |
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| coreymon77 | that happened to me | 12:35 |
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| Arwen | oh yeah... opacify is great too | 12:35 |
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| Gh0st75 | before changing the time the error i would get was Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) | 12:35 |
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| Gh0st75 | SET failed on device ath0; No such device | 12:36 |
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| Gh0st75 | when i tried eth0 instead of ath0, i'd get the same first error, then SET failed on device eth0; Operation not supported | 12:36 |
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| coreymon77 | ath1? | 12:36 |
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| Alumin | when you alt-tab in beryl, are the window icons real-time? | 12:37 |
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| Gh0st75 | ath0, ath1, eth1, all gave the same result | 12:37 |
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| Gh0st75 | only eth0 gave the operation not supported error | 12:37 |
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| stoft|away | twobrandys: past midnight here | 12:37 |
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| coreymon77 | okay | 12:37 |
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| coreymon77 | Gh0st75: what is your actual card | 12:37 |
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| coreymon77 | Gh0st75: nvm the chipset | 12:37 |
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| Gh0st75 | when i checked system settings it lists the device ID as eth0 | 12:37 |
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| coreymon77 | Gh0st75: what card are you using | 12:38 |
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| Gh0st75 | lemme see if i can get more detailed info on the device/chipset | 12:38 |
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| coreymon77 | Gh0st75: nvm the chipset | 12:38 |
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| coreymon77 | Gh0st75: i want the actual card | 12:38 |
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| dsmith | there is a wiki for known problems? hmmm, ubuntu doesn't have problems | 12:41 |
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| dsmith | :P | 12:41 |
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| Arwen | dsmith, wiki.ubuntu.com | 12:43 |
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| mc__ | Arwen: yeah that feature is nice,but its better on the mac... | 12:44 |
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| Arwen | what feature? lol | 12:44 |
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| mc__ | Arwen: i dont use mac anymore but expose is really great | 12:44 |
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| Arwen | ah, expose :-) | 12:44 |
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| coreymon77 | there is kompose | 12:44 |
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| mc__ | exactly | 12:44 |
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| mc__ | kompose sucks | 12:44 |
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| dsmith | Arwen: Thx, But I was commenting on the channel topic | 12:44 |
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| Arwen | only part of Aqua/Quartz that I actually like... | 12:44 |
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| Arwen | dsmith, ah | 12:44 |
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| ferret_0568 | Beryl RoX! | 12:45 |
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| dsmith | *snicker* | 12:45 |
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| mc__ | gadgets? | 12:45 |
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| ferret_0568 | Why when I'm in History on the Universal Sidebar, I can't select the search box? | 12:45 |
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| Arwen | whatever they were called... stupid clock and junk that'd invade your screen if you put your mouse in the wrong place.. | 12:45 |
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| coreymon77 | what | 12:46 |
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| coreymon77 | dashboard | 12:46 |
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| coreymon77 | ? | 12:46 |
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| Arwen | hmm, there we go, I think that's it | 12:46 |
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| kendwork | hrm, is it possible to get Kubuntu 6.10 discs shipited? | 12:48 |
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| kendwork | my LUG's got an event coming up in mid-May, so "up to 10 weeks after april 19th" isn't so good :) | 12:48 |
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| Arwen | not from Canonical | 12:48 |
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| coreymon77 | kendwork: yup, but you gotta pay for em | 12:48 |
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| kendwork | darn | 12:48 |
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| kendwork | and regular Ubuntu, the same? | 12:48 |
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| twobrandys | I have IBM lenovo R60e - would Ubuntu or Kubuntu run and look better on there? | 12:49 |
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| Arwen | kendwork, yes | 12:49 |
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| kendwork | darn :) | 12:49 |
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| Arwen | I think Amazon sells Ubuntu CDs though | 12:49 |
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| kendwork | hrm, ubuntu.com faq server timeout | 12:50 |
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| kendwork | yeah. we can burn our own. shipits look much nicer, though | 12:50 |
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| kendwork | we prob dont have a budget to buy discs | 12:50 |
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| kendwork | ok, i'll ask the LUG members to start 'aburnin' | 12:50 |
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| kendwork | thx! | 12:50 |
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| Arwen | heh, if you need lots of em, you could buy a CD pressing machine :-) | 12:51 |
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| ferret_0568 | I should burn a couple 7.04 discs | 12:51 |
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| ferret_0568 | In both GNOME and KDE flavors... | 12:51 |
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| Arwen | ferret_0568, there are sets of complete Ubuntu DVDs... every package :-) | 12:51 |
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| mc__ | ferret_0568: theres shipit,order some | 12:51 |
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| kendwork | thx, cya! | 12:54 |
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| flake | if I set up another user on my linux pc, how can I log into it remotely to take advantage of the 'multi-user' feature? | 12:55 |
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| flake | from windows? | 12:55 |
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| flake | or does it have to linux and how? | 12:55 |
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| LjL | !vnc | 12:56 |
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| ubotu | VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX | 12:56 |
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| flake | ah cool | 12:56 |
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| flake | can my pc be at the login screen or does it have to be up in order to use the vnc protocol? | 12:56 |
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| LjL | or you can use an X server for Windows. not sure the configuration is terribly easy tho | 12:56 |
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| ferret_0568 | It can be at the login screen | 12:56 |
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| apus | can anyone help me get my spdif output on my soundcard working, everything else works | 12:56 |
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| ferret_0568 | Or no GUI, infact | 12:56 |
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| ferret_0568 | Use Xming for a X Server on Windoze | 12:57 |
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| LjL | flake: depends how you set things us, but you can have a VNC server running in the background always ready to accept connections | 12:57 |
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| flake | LjL - thanks, will look into it and will give me something else to play with | 12:57 |
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| apus | can someone name a good widget program | 12:58 |
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| kendwork | ok, quick question... | 12:58 |
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| kendwork | does anyone think Canonical has leftover 6.10's they'd be willing to ship? | 12:58 |
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| ferret_0568 | SuperKaramba | 12:58 |
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| kendwork | (JUST in case :) ) | 12:58 |
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| chijin | do they even ship 6.10's | 12:59 |
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| ferret_0568 | Hmmm...I should try it again | 12:59 |
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| marcell__ | a | 12:59 |
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| kendwork | that's my question :) | 12:59 |
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| kendwork | the site does not say they do | 12:59 |
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| kendwork | but the FAQ is inaccessible | 12:59 |
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| kendwork | we'd need discs in Davis, Calif before May 11th | 12:59 |
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| marcell__ | aa | 12:59 |
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| marcell__ | movies ?? | 01:00 |
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| ferret_0568 | No, he said LUG | 01:00 |
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| kendwork | ok, folks on #ubuntu said 6.10 was never shipped for free, anyway | 01:00 |
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| kendwork | anyway, thanks. will need to burn :) | 01:01 |
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| ferret_0568 | I would personally burn Feisty | 01:01 |
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| ferret_0568 | Out tomorrow | 01:02 |
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| TheCreationist | I am trying to update from Kubuntu Edgy to Feisty, but when using the update-manager to do so, it crashes with the ever informative error: "Error calculating the upgrade..." Any ideas? | 01:03 |
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| ferret_0568 | type gpg into the terminal | 01:04 |
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| kalorin` | what's really changed in feisty? | 01:04 |
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| TheCreationist | ferret_0568: Then what? | 01:04 |
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| ferret_0568 | and then when it says "Please type your message", press Ctrl+C | 01:04 |
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| TheCreationist | ...the update didn't say anything about authentication, though | 01:04 |
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| ferret_0568 | Hmmm...not sure | 01:05 |
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| ferret_0568 | You could ask in #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1 | 01:05 |
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| dsmith | good news http://apcmag.com/5835/vendors_in_no_rush_to_ditch_xp_for_vista | 01:07 |
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| CVirus | dsmith: still .. who cares | 01:08 |
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| combatmode | Ktorrent doesn't run at all | 01:08 |
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| BloodyTux | is it just me or can no one connect to ubuntu.com? | 01:08 |
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| combatmode | not working for me | 01:08 |
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| BloodyTux | k, just making sure my internet doesn't suck | 01:09 |
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| combatmode | only bittorrent work. | 01:09 |
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| combatmode | .. There is ktorrent and bittorrent | 01:09 |
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| combatmode | what else ubunutu has | 01:09 |
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| combatmode | opss wrong channel | 01:09 |
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| dsmith | who cares? what kinf of attitude is that, we as a community should care | 01:10 |
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| kenneth_ | Timeout on server | 01:10 |
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| kenneth_ | Connection was to www.ubuntu.com at port 80 | 01:10 |
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| rbetzen | Hello? | 01:15 |
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| elgordo123 | I'm going to be the 1 millionth person to ask... Is there a fiesty torrent out yet? | 01:15 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | elgordo: our the 999, 988th person to ask | 01:16 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | *your | 01:16 |
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| apecat | geez, ubuntu.com is slashdotted | 01:16 |
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| elgordo123 | the ubuntu website is pretty much toast right now | 01:16 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | lol | 01:16 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | need more mirrors | 01:16 |
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| elgordo123 | i was able to get text version of d/l page, still shows 6.10. hoping that feisty existed out there somewhere | 01:17 |
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| mc__ | you all could just use the beta... | 01:18 |
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| elgordo123 | Isn't it "the 19th" somewhere in Europe right now :) | 01:18 |
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| BluesKaj | http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/ ...The Kubuntu 7.04 Beta has been removed to allow space for mirrors to fetch the upcoming Kubuntu 7.04 release. Please check back soon, or download a daily build of the desktop or alternate images. | 01:18 |
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| kenneth_ | I can confirm that it is the 19th in Norway :-) | 01:18 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | I dont know,, but 19 servers and they are still lagged... | 01:18 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | hahaha | 01:18 |
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| mc__ | elgordo123: since 1hour | 01:18 |
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| elgordo123 | so mark shuttleworth is full-o-crap :) The 19th, such BS hahaha | 01:19 |
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| elgordo123 | it's the 19th somewhere dammit | 01:19 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | 19th in Australia | 01:20 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | China | 01:20 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | India | 01:20 |
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| elgordo123 | <-- was hoping someone would leak an early iso or torrent of feisty. Stupid loyal employees... | 01:21 |
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| TheDebugger | ... Just the get beta and update.. | 01:21 |
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| TheDebugger | I already have feisty | 01:21 |
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| mardi | just wait a week :p | 01:22 |
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| wharpix | 1:20am in germany... I'm waiting ... oh.. I will be tired tommorow | 01:22 |
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| elgordo123 | why can't we have an ubuntu store? Apple has thier stores and they get to lineup before it opens. I wanna store too | 01:22 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | i'll wait before upgrading from edgy | 01:23 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | elgordo: haha | 01:23 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | nice idea though | 01:23 |
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| TheDebugger | And.. no more updates to the system since 2 days | 01:24 |
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| mc__ | wharpix: why not just use the beta? | 01:24 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | Ubuntu store, offer free software, but offer paid support | 01:24 |
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| elgordo123 | <-- already backed up system, formatted drive, sitting by PC with CD-ROM already opened | 01:24 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | lol | 01:24 |
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| makuseru | how can i resize a partition if i cant get on a live cd to use qtparted? | 01:24 |
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| elgordo123 | <-- and a couple of pints of guiness to pass the time. Hopefully I wont be to blasted to put CD in CD drive and reboot... | 01:25 |
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| ramiro82 | hola alguien que ayuda a instalar el aMSN en Kubuntu | 01:25 |
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| BluesKaj | !pt | 01:26 |
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| ubotu | Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado. | 01:26 |
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| angasule | !es | ramiro82 | 01:26 |
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| ubotu | ramiro82: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda. | 01:26 |
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| elgordo123 | Ramiro usar amsn-project.net o gaim | 01:27 |
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| elgordo123 | amsn es muy rico, pero gaim (pidgin) es mas mejor | 01:27 |
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| sierra-x | !stream | 01:27 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about stream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 01:27 |
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| sierra-x | !es | elgordo123 | 01:28 |
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| ubotu | elgordo123: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda. | 01:28 |
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| BluesKaj | !streamtuner | 01:28 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about streamtuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 01:28 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | BluesKaj: i'm actually looking for a way to stream media from the home pc to here. i'm in class and pretty bored. but it's okay, it's a linux class | 01:28 |
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| elgordo123 | que? what if I quero spanglish? es #kubuntu-spanglish exists? | 01:28 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | um... no. | 01:29 |
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| BluesKaj | remote pc ? | 01:30 |
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| Daisuke-Ido | that wasn't cool. | 01:30 |
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| elgordo123 | Cmon Mark--just do it- 4 8 15 16 23 42 -Execute.... | 01:31 |
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| elgordo123 | Release feisty..... 4 8 15 16 23 42 -execute Please... | 01:31 |
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| Sanne | :) | 01:32 |
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| apecat | heh | 01:32 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | k, got my screen session back | 01:32 |
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| cloakable | :/ | 01:33 |
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| apecat | my guess is that those poor overworked developers will perform the following: 4 8 15 16 23 42 -execute (release feisty) --> 420 | 01:33 |
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| who_ | 420? | 01:34 |
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| apecat | ;P | 01:34 |
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| who_ | hell yea | 01:34 |
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| elgordo123 | exactly. Guess I'll have to check back every 108 minutes to see if it has happened | 01:34 |
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| BluesKaj | april 20 | 01:34 |
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| apecat | that too :P | 01:34 |
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| elgordo123 | if not, then the end of the world rests solely on Mark Shuttleworths shoulders | 01:34 |
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| apecat | the ubuntu team deserves a nice 420 | 01:35 |
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| elgordo123 | Maybe he is too busy counting his last billion dollars and will release it after that. | 01:35 |
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| unix_infidel | w00t, one more day :) | 01:35 |
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| unix_infidel | and then probably another day after b/c servers will be overloaded. | 01:36 |
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| elgordo123 | Or maybe drunk and passed out next to a playboy model at the mansion and just forgot | 01:36 |
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| elgordo123 | that is the only acceptable excuse. | 01:36 |
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| elgordo123 | 4 8 15 16 23 42 -Execute. I'll be back in 108 minutes and check again | 01:38 |
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| ferret_0568 | Does anybody know where GKrellm gets it's ACPI "THM" temperature value from? | 01:45 |
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| BloodyTux | no | 01:46 |
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| ferret_0568 | Found it: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM | 01:47 |
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| BloodyTux | ughhh firefox won't load | 01:47 |
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| ferret_0568 | Trying to set up a SuperKaramba monitor | 01:48 |
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| ferret_0568 | Try the BuildAMon monitor | 01:48 |
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| ferret_0568 | That's what I'm using | 01:48 |
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| apecat | BloodyTux: have you checked with backuping your old firefox profile, deleting it and starting firefox? | 01:48 |
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| BloodyTux | nvm it started | 01:49 |
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| apecat | aah, k | 01:49 |
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| apus | how do I make a command in konsole like "kate" so that when the terminal is closed the program doesn't close | 01:49 |
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| BluesKaj | apus use the run command in the kmenu | 01:50 |
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| apus | I can't its in a script that is necessary to run the command | 01:50 |
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| BluesKaj | if open something the terminal it will close when the terminal is closed ...you can minmize it tho | 01:51 |
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| BloodyTux | :/ what's the command to slap someone with a fish??? or is that mirc only? | 01:51 |
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| BluesKaj | sorry i'll rephrase that : if you open something in the terminal it will close when the terminal is closed ...you can minmize it tho | 01:52 |
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| apus | I remember something about running it as a backround task | 01:52 |
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| apus | which alloud the konsole to be used for other things | 01:52 |
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| BluesKaj | apus, you can open several shells in the konsole simultaneously | 01:53 |
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| apus | yes, but I want to know how to use the background task command | 01:54 |
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| apus | nvm | 01:54 |
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| flaccid | ctrl + z ? | 01:55 |
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| BluesKaj | dunno what you mean running in the background :( | 01:55 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | apus: add & after the command | 01:55 |
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| Sanne | apus: you can start it like thus: 'kate &' then you can run other commands from the same terminal. The apps will still close with it, though. I forgot how you prevernt that, but I read it recently, so it is possible. | 01:55 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | for instance top & | 01:55 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | that particular example is useless, but hey | 01:55 |
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| Tired_ | Hi. I'm trying to install kubuntu 6.10, and it wants a password...what is it? | 01:56 |
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| BloodyTux | #ubuntu-trvia. everyone join! | 01:56 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | Tired_: it's asking for a password and username during the install | 01:56 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | you pick one :P | 01:56 |
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| Tired_ | new install, re-started x-server | 01:56 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | that will be your username and password | 01:56 |
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| Tired_ | no, it wants me to log back into the installer | 01:56 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | on the cd? | 01:57 |
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| Tired_ | yes | 01:57 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | username ubuntu, no password | 01:57 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | afaik | 01:57 |
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| Tired_ | yup | 01:57 |
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| Tired_ | thanks :) | 01:57 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | you're welcome | 01:58 |
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| Tired_ | that's a bit of a usability issue...if you need to change your display settings before running the installer, it tells you to log out and restart the x server, but it doesn't tell you you'll need that info... | 01:58 |
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| BloodyTux | !trivia | 01:58 |
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| ubotu | The #ubuntu-trivia channel is a place for testing your brain power and having fun! We schedule themed quizzes, every Friday, to test your knowledge of your favourite operating system (Ubuntu, of course!) and keep you exercising those cranial muscles. | 01:58 |
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| Tired_ | might want to add something there... | 01:58 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | got a media server working. though APPARENTLY i can't stream xvid :\ | 01:58 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | Tired_: agreed | 01:58 |
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| Tired_ | you can't stream xvid? why not? | 01:59 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | i don't think xvid streams at all, though :\ | 01:59 |
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| genii | ogg is better for streaming | 01:59 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | genii: yeah, but my entire scrubs collection is xvid, and reencoding isn't an option | 02:00 |
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| Tired_ | i stream xvid over my lan...it works, if not the most elegant thing | 02:02 |
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| Tired_ | so I can watch stuff off the media server in the browser on my laptop | 02:02 |
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| Tired_ | it would work over the net, too, but i don't have the bandwidth | 02:02 |
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| TheCreationist | Just a quick question: Is ntfs write support included in Feisty ? | 02:04 |
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| Yorokobi | !ntfs-3g | TheCreationist | 02:05 |
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| ubotu | TheCreationist: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy) | 02:05 |
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| TheCreationist | Yorokobi: I know about that... didn't answer my question, though ;) | 02:05 |
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| Tired_ | how good is NTFS read-only support, like for a network share? | 02:05 |
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| Yorokobi | TheCreationist, ask on #ubuntu+1 | 02:05 |
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| Tired_ | rough guess...how long should i expect the install process to take after the six pages? | 02:08 |
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| Tired_ | like, should I go and get dinner, or will it be faster than that? | 02:09 |
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| giovani | 20-some minutes -- depends on a lot of things | 02:09 |
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| Tired_ | dinner it is, then...i just wasn't sure...the installer starts up so fast! | 02:10 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | Tired_: read-only is *excellent* | 02:10 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | but write access... | 02:10 |
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| Tired_ | sweet :) | 02:10 |
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| Tired_ | oh, i don't need write. i'm trying to move away from windows, but i have a lot of data still on ntfs drives | 02:11 |
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| nbogdanoff | i have twinview orientation setup for dual monitors with kubuntu. when i run a rdesktop -D its defaulting to the left monitor. how can i set this to open on the right display? | 02:11 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | you should be fine | 02:11 |
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| apus | I have an app that asks me for an install directory, where should I put it | 02:11 |
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| rubyn | hi | 02:11 |
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| nbogdanoff | cause when i run the same command in gnome, it will open on the monitor on the RIGHT | 02:12 |
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| rubyn | is the new release already out? what time will it be? | 02:12 |
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| nbogdanoff | both using the same xorg.conf | 02:12 |
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| Tired_ | ... there's a new release? | 02:12 |
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| rubyn | yes, upcoming today.. | 02:12 |
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| rubyn | lol | 02:12 |
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| Yorokobi | nbogdanoff, use a rdesktop gui (tsclient). It should spawn the rdp session on the same screen as the gui initiator | 02:12 |
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| Sanne | apus: somewhere not under the government of the pakcage manager. Usual places are somewhere under /opt or /usr/local. | 02:12 |
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| rubyn | 7.04 coming today | 02:12 |
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| rubyn | it's really better i heard.. | 02:13 |
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| apus | Sanne: can I give it its own directory? | 02:13 |
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| nbogdanoff | Yorokobi: im calling rdesktop from the command line. | 02:13 |
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| Tired_ | figures...is there aything like apt-get upgrade? | 02:13 |
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| rubyn | ati drivers included, nvidia too.. | 02:13 |
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| Sanne | apus: I always try to do that first. Most times it works. | 02:13 |
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| rubyn | i think so but... i suggest you to reinstall | 02:13 |
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| giovani | Tired_: sure, you can do an apt-get dist-upgrade -- but you might want to hold off for the new installer -- dist-upgrades are often unclean and messy | 02:13 |
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| Tired_ | wil it be available tomorrow, you think? | 02:14 |
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| giovani | it should be available sometime in the next 24 hours | 02:14 |
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| apus | I need to run this executable from terminal in order for it to work, why doesn't it work when I use a shortcut (it gets as far as the splash screen) | 02:14 |
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| Sanne | apus: since it won't be in the path, you may need to put a link to the executable to /usr/local/bin (whis should be in the path). Maybe the installed does this for you, though. | 02:14 |
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| Tired_ | ok. i might as well pack it in for the night and grab the new one tomorrow, then | 02:14 |
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| Tired_ | thanks for all the help, and the wicked distro :) | 02:15 |
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| nbogdanoff | Yorokobi: its weird too. when i change the "LeftOf" or "RightOf" setting in xorg.conf when using gnome, the icons on my desktop stay to the left monitor, yet the menu icons time, date etc all go to the right monitor | 02:15 |
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| nbogdanoff | pfft | 02:15 |
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| apus | I even have a script in the pwd of the executable that runs the executable, and when the script is run via terminal it works, but when the script is run via link it doesn't work | 02:15 |
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| apus | also, if anyone else wants to simultaneously help me with this, my sound card has two issues, its not doing stereo very well, and its spdif output isn't working | 02:17 |
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| Sanne | apus: (please type my name when talking to me so my chat client notifies me). Can have many reasons. Best would be if you could paste the error message to paste.ubuntu-nl.org | 02:17 |
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| nbogdanoff | with dual monitors and Twinview setup, how can i force a GUI app to open on the left or right ? | 02:18 |
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| apus | sanne: there is no error message | 02:18 |
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| giovani | nbogdanoff: you can't | 02:18 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | what is the package name for thunderbird 2?? | 02:18 |
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| Sanne | apus: ok, what did you do exactly? Where is the executable, how do you start it when it works, and how when it doesn't? | 02:19 |
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| giovani | nbogdanoff: they're not separate displays as far as the program is conerned | 02:19 |
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| nbogdanoff | ok fair enough, i understand that from viewing the xorg.conf | 02:19 |
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| giovani | Hasta-La-Vista: it was JUST released -- it's not going to be officially available for ubuntu yet | 02:19 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | i've been using it for months now | 02:19 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | sheeesh | 02:19 |
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| giovani | nbogdanoff: nvidia twinview provides faked Xinerama information for programs to know where the monitors are -- but not all programs support Xinerama info | 02:20 |
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| Lam_ | how do i find out what /dev my ipod is hugged up to? | 02:20 |
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| nbogdanoff | giovani: : maybe you can explain this to me. in gnome the rdresktop opens to the right, but in kde it doesnt | 02:20 |
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| Lam_ | hooked* | 02:20 |
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| Lam_ | o-O.. | 02:20 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | ahhh IPOD hug... | 02:20 |
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| giovani | nbogdanoff: I have no idea -- it's possible you launched it from that display (a terminal on that display) | 02:20 |
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| apus | Sanne: its /home/tim/matlab/bin/matlab, it works when I type the path and the executable into any konsole window, or when I link to it as long as the link has "run in terminal" selected | 02:20 |
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| apus | Sanne: it doesn't work when the executable is ran from a link (with "run in terminal" not selected) | 02:20 |
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| nbogdanoff | when i tweak my settings to RightOf (from LeftOf) my login prompt is all on the right side and when i get into the desktop so is the toolar with menus date time etc, but the icons on the desktop stay on the left monitor | 02:21 |
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| giovani | Hasta-La-Vista: it was released today -- if you've been using beta versions, fine, but ubuntu doesn't typically include software in beta in its repositories | 02:21 |
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| apus | Sanne: I want to be able to run it from a link or shortcut like any other program, but with no terminal open, to prevent it from closing if the terminal closes | 02:21 |
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| giovani | nbogdanoff: is that relevant? | 02:21 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | beryl is in beta isn't it? | 02:21 |
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| Sanne | apus: what kind of file is /home/tim/matlab/bin/matlab? A binary, or a shell script? | 02:21 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | i wont argue symantics though | 02:21 |
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| nbogdanoff | kind of. id like to know why gnome will handle this the way i want to, but kde wont | 02:21 |
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| nbogdanoff | is there a primary display setting ? | 02:21 |
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| apus | Sanne: how can I tell? | 02:21 |
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| nbogdanoff | for kde | 02:22 |
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| giovani | Hasta-La-Vista: beryl isn't included in ubuntu | 02:22 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | yes, but its still available | 02:22 |
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| giovani | you must be using unofficial, unrelated ubuntu-compatible repositories | 02:22 |
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| apus | Sanne: this is the first line in the file "#!/bin/sh" | 02:22 |
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| nbogdanoff | giovani: ne ? | 02:22 |
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| nbogdanoff | me | 02:22 |
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| Sanne | apus: ah, so it's a shell script. | 02:22 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | have to upgrade your source list | 02:22 |
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| giovani | nbogdanoff: no, talking to Hasta-La-Vista | 02:22 |
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| nbogdanoff | k | 02:22 |
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| giovani | Hasta-La-Vista: nonetheless, this is extremely quick to have a custom, unofficial build available -- give it time | 02:23 |
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| nbogdanoff | id just like to know why gnome will fire the window on one monitor while kde on the other | 02:23 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | aye aye | 02:23 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | :) | 02:23 |
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| Sanne | apus: what kind of link did you do that you want to run? Or do you just put in the path to this file and run it? With "run in terminal" checked and without? | 02:23 |
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| apus | San\ | 02:24 |
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| giovani | nbogdanoff: I don't have an answer for you other than that you may have started it from a terminal on the other window -- I don't know -- it's difficult to troubleshoot a minor nuance like that over irc from what you're telling me | 02:24 |
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| apus | Sanne: just a create new application link, and type the path in | 02:24 |
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| Sanne | apus: ok | 02:24 |
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| giovani | Hasta-La-Vista: in the meantime -- consider using kmail -- it's far better than thunderbird 1.5 -- we'll see if they fixed a lot of the problems in 2.0 | 02:25 |
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| nbogdanoff | i cant drag an icon from one monitor to the next? | 02:25 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | i dont like kmail, I have used it | 02:25 |
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| nbogdanoff | ah | 02:25 |
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| nbogdanoff | der | 02:25 |
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| apus | Sanne: for some reason it wanted to be put into /home/tim but I put it into /home/tim/matlab, is the fact that its in my user directory going to cause me problems (i will be the only user ever on this machine) | 02:25 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | besides kmail does not have a windows port | 02:25 |
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| giovani | nbogdanoff: you cannot drag icons on your desktop to the other monitor? | 02:25 |
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| Sanne | apus: funny. I have a hand installed firefox from mozilla.com that is also started with a shell script. But that works like you want to. I can try to look at this matlab start script if you want, maybe I find something. If you want me to, please paste it to the pastebin. | 02:25 |
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| nbogdanoff | i was able to had to uncheck align to grid | 02:25 |
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| giovani | Hasta-La-Vista: this is a kubuntu channel -- how is that relevant? | 02:25 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | lol... | 02:26 |
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| apus | Sanne: the script file? | 02:26 |
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| Hasta-La-Vista | its not relevant... | 02:26 |
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| Sanne | apus: yes | 02:26 |
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| apus | !paste | apus | 02:26 |
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| nbogdanoff | giovani: so i opened a terminal from the monitor i would like to have the GUI app i call from command line to open in, and it still revers back to the other monitor | 02:26 |
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| Sanne | apus: paste.ubuntu-nl.org | 02:26 |
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| Sanne | :) | 02:26 |
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| giovani | nbogdanoff: I said I didn't have an answer for you -- twinview is sort of a hack nvidia does -- it may be doing funky things, I'm not a twinview or xorg expert | 02:26 |
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| nbogdanoff | thanks for the input | 02:27 |
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| apus | Sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16329/ | 02:27 |
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| Sanne | apus: looking... | 02:27 |
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| giovani | nbogdanoff: try googling for 'rdesktop twinview' or 'rdesktop xinerama' | 02:27 |
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| giovani | that might yield some information | 02:27 |
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| Sanne | apus: see line 104 and following ;) | 02:28 |
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| Sanne | apus: those lines after '#' are comments, btw. | 02:30 |
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| apus | Sanne: how do I set it to show lines on the left in kate | 02:30 |
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| giovani | unfortunately, nbogdanoff left before I could give him the link that elaborated on this precise issue: http://osdir.com/ml/network.rdesktop.devel/2007-02/msg00005.html | 02:30 |
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| apus | Sanne: and I see the -desktop | 02:30 |
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| Sanne | apus: sec (you could also look at the pastebin, there are line nimbers) | 02:30 |
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| Sanne | apus: yeah, that's supposed to be needed as a command line argument for your situation. | 02:31 |
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| rbetzen | /leave | 02:31 |
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| Sanne | apus: in kate: View->Show Line Numbers or F11 (by default) | 02:31 |
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| apus | Sanne: so can I put that in the command line in the link, or should I still use script | 02:31 |
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| Sanne | apus: you can try to put this in your link: /home/tim/matlab/bin/matlab -desktop | 02:33 |
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| apus | Sanne: that dind't work, but adding it to the script and linking to the script works, Thanks!. But now, when it loads, the gui is blank, I'm using beryl and if I leave the window open, switch to kde, it appears, then switch to beryl, and it stays just fine in beryl, the switch is annoying | 02:34 |
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| Sanne | apus: cool it kinda works. Unfortunately, I know nothing about beryl, but I heard it sometimes is messy with some applications. Maybe somebody else here could help with that? | 02:35 |
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| apus | Sanne: how are you with sound issues? | 02:36 |
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| Sanne | apus: not too good, because my soundcard just worked, so I didn't need to investigate. Sorry... | 02:37 |
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| Sanne | Lam_: open a konsole window, monitor the syslog by typing: 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' (no quotes), plug in your device and watch if the log says anything helpful. I dunno if it helps, but it's worth a try. | 02:44 |
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| Lam_ | Sanne: ok thanks. i'll try that | 02:44 |
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| Sanne | thefirstdude: mplayer is in the repositories, the codecs can be had here, I think: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/ | 02:46 |
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| Sanne | thefirstdude: mplayer is in multiverse | 02:46 |
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| Sanne | gotta sleep, night all | 02:48 |
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| ferret_0568 | Or should I just keep onboard | 03:06 |
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| ferret_0568 | I am using many sed's in succession to filter through GNOME packages to remove | 03:06 |
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| TheCreationist | I just did a fresh install of Feisty and now my system takes a good 3 minutes to boot. I tried running it in recovery mode and noticed a few errors. | 03:26 |
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| TheCreationist | qc timeout. And something about xfermod... and then "Failed to recover some devices" | 03:27 |
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| TheCreationist | Any ideas? | 03:27 |
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| RawSewage | Feisty was just released, right | 03:29 |
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| RawSewage | guess not | 03:32 |
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| jtt | i heard it was delayed the other day | 03:34 |
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| jtt | any up for a kopete question actually several | 03:35 |
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| jtt | any=anyone | 03:35 |
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| apus | !ask | 03:36 |
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| ubotu | Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | 03:36 |
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| hitmanWilly | feisty comes out tommorrow | 03:36 |
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| hitmanWilly | according to the website | 03:37 |
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| hitmanWilly | lol | 03:37 |
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| hitmanWilly | channel's gonna be packed | 03:38 |
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| dwidmann | That's not necessarily a bad thing | 03:38 |
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| jtt | kopete how do i save the current open channels so the next time i start kopete those channels are active and i dont have to execut /join every channel again | 03:38 |
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| dwidmann | I reckon the forums absorb most of that hit anyway | 03:38 |
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| hitmanWilly | dwidmann, at least initially | 03:39 |
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| dwidmann | jtt, hmm, let me check ... I know I've done it before | 03:39 |
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| jtt | dwidmann: thanks | 03:40 |
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| hitmanWilly | jtt, there should be an option to autojoin channels for a particular server | 03:40 |
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| intelikey | hitmanWilly mainly cause i'm not using feisty, there will be new issues and i can't just say >> #ubuntu+1 | 03:40 |
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| jtt | hitmanWilly: let me check | 03:40 |
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| dwidmann | jtt, I've got it | 03:40 |
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| hitmanWilly | lol, luckily, ive been running feisty for a while now | 03:40 |
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| jtt | dwidmann: ok fire away | 03:40 |
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| dwidmann | in the account configuration for the irc server, in the advanced configuration tab | 03:41 |
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| dwidmann | "Run following commands on connect" | 03:41 |
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| intelikey | hitmanWilly then i expect you to be here </grins> | 03:41 |
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| dwidmann | example | 03:41 |
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| dwidmann | put in /j #kubuntu | 03:41 |
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| jtt | dwidmann: ok thought that was some other sort of commands thanks | 03:41 |
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| hitmanWilly | intelikey, i'll keep my schedule open :) | 03:41 |
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| jtt | thanks again | 03:41 |
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| jtt | its been driving me nuts | 03:42 |
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| dwidmann | jtt: it is some sort of commands, you can run any, yes, even /join :D | 03:42 |
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| apus | jtt: just wondering, why not use konversation? | 03:42 |
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| jtt | apus: didnt know about it guess i will have to look at it also | 03:43 |
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| jtt | someone said that kopete was just like gaim so i thought i would look at it | 03:43 |
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| hitmanWilly | i like xchat myself, the detachable windows are what keeps me coming back | 03:43 |
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| jtt | i have used xchat still just poking around to see where i want to settle | 03:43 |
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| dwidmann | I used Kopete for IRC up until I started rubbing up against a nasty memory leak ... | 03:43 |
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| apus | jtt: konversation is very easy to set up, in fact the easiest auto join feature I have ever seen in an irc client | 03:44 |
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| jtt | ok konversation is next to look at | 03:44 |
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| jtt | appreciate all the input | 03:44 |
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| jtt | someone on another channel said they released Ubuntu, is that correct? | 03:45 |
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| jtt | i.e. not the RC the full release | 03:45 |
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| dwidmann | not yet | 03:45 |
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| dwidmann | Sometime within the next 24 hours most likely | 03:46 |
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| jtt | ok the person making the statement said it had been released, np | 03:46 |
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| dwidmann | at least, if they have released it, there haven't been any announcments of such ... | 03:47 |
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| hitmanWilly | the website still has it as tommorrow | 03:48 |
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| DaSkreech | Can I reinitialize my Kernel? | 03:51 |
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| kalorin` | konversation is just an xchat client with some options taken away | 03:52 |
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| kalorin` | most notibly you can't hide the server tabs | 03:52 |
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| kalorin` | that's hwat I miss about it | 03:52 |
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| kalorin` | xchat is the daddy though | 03:52 |
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| flaccid | you mean a frontend | 03:52 |
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| flaccid | are you sure it interfaces xchat | 03:53 |
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| flaccid | coz then that would be a dependency | 03:53 |
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| biotrox | i can't connect to my vpn server | 03:53 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech that's called a "reboot" | 03:53 |
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| kalorin` | dude, it's seriously just flat out xchat redone | 03:53 |
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| biotrox | it said permission denied | 03:53 |
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| giovani | kalenedrael: it is not "an xchat client" -- it's not an "xchat frontend" | 03:53 |
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| DaSkreech | intelikey: Not when that's what broke it | 03:53 |
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| giovani | err | 03:53 |
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| giovani | kalorin`* | 03:53 |
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| kalorin` | install xchat and go thorugh the configs for it | 03:53 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech some modules can be removed/reinserted | 03:53 |
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| flaccid | kalorin`: show me the proof that its made from xchat.. | 03:53 |
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| giovani | flaccid: he's plain wrong ... ignore it | 03:54 |
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| kalorin` | just install xchat and go into the config tabs | 03:54 |
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| kalorin` | they're exactly the same only konversation is missing a few options | 03:54 |
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| flaccid | it might be similar and copied from xchat. but hey there is something called UI theory... | 03:54 |
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| flaccid | kalorin`: you do realise that concludes nothing! | 03:54 |
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| flaccid | so please stop saying it. | 03:54 |
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| kalorin` | mkay | 03:54 |
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| giovani | konversation has superior identity management, as well as server clustering | 03:54 |
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| kalorin` | prove me wrong | 03:54 |
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| kalorin` | xchat does clustering | 03:54 |
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| giovani | kalorin`: just go look at the sourcecode | 03:54 |
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| giovani | not well | 03:54 |
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| flaccid | kalorin`: i belive the onus of proof lies with you | 03:55 |
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| kalorin` | not well? you put several servers in th tab as someplace to connect to | 03:55 |
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| giovani | you're basing this on nothing other than visual similarities | 03:55 |
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| kalorin` | it picked through them to find one that connects | 03:55 |
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| flaccid | show us the proof that konversation is a fork of xchat.. | 03:55 |
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| flaccid | i look like a dickhead, doesn't mean i am one.. | 03:55 |
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| giovani | kalorin`: come into #konversation and discuss this with the developers | 03:55 |
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| intelikey | lang flaccid | 03:56 |
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| intelikey | !offtopic | 03:56 |
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| ubotu | #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! | 03:56 |
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| flaccid | sorry | 03:56 |
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| DaSkreech | intelikey: I installed the kernel on a different machine | 03:57 |
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| DaSkreech | I think that screwed it | 03:57 |
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| flaccid | i find kalorin`'s language more offensive than mine... | 03:57 |
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| dwidmann | Far as I'm concerned the main UI for all of the larger GUI IRC programs is pretty much alike ... doesn't make any difference though | 03:57 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech different arch ? | 03:57 |
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| kalorin` | ok maybe it's just the UI | 03:57 |
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| kalorin` | but it's like spot on the same config | 03:57 |
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| kalorin` | that's what I was basding it off of | 03:57 |
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| DaSkreech | intelikey: Nope | 03:57 |
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| kalorin` | not the UI so much but the config options being identical even on the same tabs | 03:57 |
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| kalorin` | it's kde-ified | 03:58 |
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| flaccid | kalorin`: looks mean nothing. | 03:58 |
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| flaccid | big deal | 03:58 |
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| flaccid | wasn't that the point of the project | 03:58 |
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| flaccid | can we move on | 03:58 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech i carry kernels from one box to another all the time.... DaSkreech what you may run into is initramfs.img problems. assuming you use one. | 03:58 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech or if you don't use an init*.img then it may well be the drivers you built into the kernel. | 03:59 |
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| DaSkreech | intelikey: Standard dist-upgrade | 04:00 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech tell me what you've got there, maybe i can help. | 04:00 |
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| DaSkreech | intelikey: Turn on the computer (after switching the hard drive to the new machine) Boot kernel panic | 04:00 |
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| DaSkreech | reboot choose old kernel it gets half way and stops | 04:00 |
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| Ashex | how does one add a script to startup with login? | 04:01 |
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| DaSkreech | reboot choose same old kernel and take of *(#%$#)(& quiet boot and it boots fine | 04:01 |
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| DaSkreech | Come in here | 04:01 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech ok that's probably root addressing more than kernel problem | 04:01 |
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| DaSkreech | ask how to reinit kernel | 04:01 |
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| Ashex | I just setup GCALDaemon and I want to have it startup with my login, or system, depending on how i can do it | 04:02 |
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| DaSkreech | intelikey: I guess if / has not been mounted there is a slim chance of having a log of the kernel panic? | 04:02 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech i sujest you rebuild the initramfs.img for the kernel you want to use on the system you want it to boot. | 04:02 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech no chance at all. | 04:02 |
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| DaSkreech | intelikey: should locate detect the initramfs.img ? | 04:03 |
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| intelikey | it's in /boot | 04:03 |
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| Ashex | so, anyone know? | 04:03 |
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| Jucato | !autostart | 04:03 |
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| ubotu | To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. | 04:03 |
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| intelikey | something like initrd.img-initramfs.img-2.6.20-12 | 04:03 |
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| DaSkreech | Ashex: check inside the /etc/init.d folder | 04:03 |
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| Jucato | Ashex: ^^^^^ | 04:04 |
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| DaSkreech | Jucato: He said computer didn't he? | 04:04 |
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| DaSkreech | assuming that Ashex is a he | 04:04 |
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| Jucato | DaSkreech: <Ashex> I just setup GCALDaemon and I want to have it startup with my login, or system, depending on how i can do it | 04:04 |
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| DaSkreech | intelikey: in /boot ? | 04:04 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech yes | 04:04 |
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| DaSkreech | Jucato: Ah my mistake. Thought he meant computer | 04:05 |
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| DaSkreech | intelikey: not there | 04:05 |
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| kiamorningslx | who can tell how can I find an ubuntu Chile chat room? | 04:05 |
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| yamathan | !iso | 04:05 |
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| ubotu | To mount an ISO disc image, type sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. | 04:05 |
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| stdin | should be something like /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic | 04:05 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech what do you have with init* in there | 04:05 |
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| yamathan | Hmm ... | 04:05 |
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| yamathan | Does anyone know a way to copy an .iso from a CD? | 04:05 |
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| kiamorningslx | who can tell how can I find an ubuntu Chile chat room? | 04:05 |
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| TheCreationist | DaSkreech: Hello. | 04:05 |
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| flaccid | kiamorningslx: use /list ubuntu in your irc client | 04:05 |
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| DaSkreech | kiamorningslx: What language do they speak in Chile? | 04:05 |
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| stdin | yamathan: k3b will do that | 04:05 |
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| kiamorningslx | Spanish | 04:06 |
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| yamathan | Really? | 04:06 |
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| stdin | yamathan: yeah, k3b does it all :) | 04:06 |
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| intelikey | !es | 04:06 |
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| ubotu | Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda. | 04:06 |
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| yamathan | Man! | 04:06 |
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| creadorcreativo | kiamorningslx: #ubuntu-cl | 04:06 |
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| hitmanWilly | yamathan, k3b will rip, copy, burn pretty much anything | 04:06 |
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| yamathan | <3 | 04:06 |
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| Ashex | DaSkreech, ah, thanks | 04:06 |
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| yamathan | Thankyew. | 04:06 |
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| stdin | yamathan: I think it's Tools -> Copy CD | 04:06 |
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| DaSkreech | hitmanWilly: Still can't span audio CDs as far as I can tell | 04:06 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech ls /boot/init* | 04:06 |
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| yamathan | Thanks, stdin! | 04:07 |
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| stdin | :) | 04:07 |
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| hitmanWilly | DaSkreech, don't do too much of that, so i don't know | 04:07 |
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| hitmanWilly | DaSkreech, most of my ops are from disc to hdd | 04:07 |
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| DaSkreech | intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16344/ | 04:08 |
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| yamathan | Thanks, stdin! | 04:09 |
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| intelikey | initrd.img-2.6.20-13-386 DaSkreech that's what the name is. i'm sure it's an initramfs image the differances are suttle but important. | 04:09 |
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| stdin | yamathan: no problem :) | 04:09 |
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| yamathan | Man, I can't believe just how simple so many things are in Ubuntu compared to Windows, even after a year an' a half. XD | 04:09 |
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| kalorin` | ok so other than vim, has anyone found anything as good as ultraedit on windows? | 04:09 |
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| Minataku | intelikey: Doesn't the kernel check anyway? | 04:10 |
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| yamathan | I mean, it would take me MINUTES just to get Nero running, and it's not as feature-blistering. | 04:10 |
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| DaSkreech | intelikey: Right what do I do now? | 04:10 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech i'm assuming you want the newest one rebuilt... sudo mkinitramfs -o initrd.img-2.6.20-13-386 2.6.20-13-386 | 04:10 |
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| stdin | yamathan: just wait until the next release of k3b, version 1.0 is EVEN better :) | 04:10 |
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| TheCreationist | Just updated to Feisty, now my sound doesn't work. Checked the volume and drivers and all that... any ideas? | 04:11 |
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| intelikey | Minataku yes if you are asking about the initrd/initramfs issue it does indeed. | 04:11 |
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| Minataku | intelikey: In which case it shouldn't really matter, right? | 04:11 |
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| Minataku | Since the kernel checks anyway | 04:11 |
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| intelikey | Minataku you could it bob the kernel doesn't look at the name. | 04:12 |
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| DaSkreech | intelikey: Wait there is a new out :) | 04:12 |
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| DaSkreech | intelikey: Sweet I can update and delete that one :) | 04:12 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech k | 04:12 |
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| Ashex | hmm | 04:12 |
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| apus | so what types of peeps use kubuntu | 04:13 |
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| stdin | the smart ones | 04:13 |
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| Ashex | DaSkreech, the problem with the script is that it doesn't obey the init.d rules (doesn't start with ./foo.sh start) | 04:13 |
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| apus | my campus uses red hat enterprise on the linux machines :X | 04:13 |
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| intelikey | apus geeks freeks and L-users | 04:13 |
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| intelikey | Ashex chmod | 04:14 |
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| DaSkreech | Ashex: then listen to Ubotu | 04:14 |
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| DaSkreech | !autostart | Ashex | 04:14 |
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| ubotu | Ashex: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. | 04:14 |
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| intelikey | wont it still need to be executable ? | 04:14 |
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| intelikey | or does kde do the sh file.sh thang? | 04:15 |
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| stdin | still need permissions to execute | 04:15 |
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| stdin | (i think) | 04:15 |
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| intelikey | or does kde do the sh file.sh thang? :) | 04:16 |
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| intelikey | stdin think was as far as i could go there, that's the reason i letf an out. | 04:17 |
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| intelikey | i need to finish building this box... back in a few. | 04:17 |
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| Ashex | I've already done a chmod +x on it | 04:21 |
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| Ashex | If i do use autostart, I should be able to create a shortcut to the script itself (located in /usr/local/sbin/ | 04:21 |
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| stdin | yeah, link or desktop file. both work | 04:22 |
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| apus | any free decent fortran compilers? | 04:22 |
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| stdin | !info g77 | 04:23 |
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| ubotu | g77: The GNU Fortran 77 compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.4.6-10ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB | 04:23 |
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| apus | any fortran 95? | 04:23 |
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| intelikey | Ashex you are aware of the potential problems that a user or world writable script can cause aren't you ? | 04:23 |
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| stdin | !info gfortran | 04:24 |
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| ubotu | gfortran: The GNU Fortran 95 compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.1.1-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB | 04:24 |
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| stdin | apus: there you go :) | 04:24 |
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| hitmanWilly | fortran, that's reaching back there :) | 04:25 |
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| apus | so once I know the name of the package whats the easiest way to apt get it using the right name | 04:26 |
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| apus | hitmanwilly: im 20 years old | 04:26 |
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| stdin | apus: sudo apt-get install package | 04:26 |
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| hitmanWilly | apus, wow, and you know what fortran is? that's impressive | 04:26 |
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| pollyo | !dazuko | 04:26 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about dazuko - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 04:26 |
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| apus | and whats the "package name" for that particular one | 04:26 |
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| apus | hitmanWilly: actually aerospace engineers use it all the time | 04:27 |
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| stdin | apus: "gfortran" | 04:27 |
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| apus | its better for us than anything else | 04:27 |
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| hitmanWilly | apus: probably gfortran | 04:27 |
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| hitmanWilly | apus: cool, didn't know that one | 04:27 |
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| apus | something to do with no pointers in the language | 04:27 |
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| apus | I said that once and someone knew what I ment and why it mattered, I know that its the reason we do it, and sorta understand what a pointer is in other languages | 04:28 |
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| hitmanWilly | apus, cool, might have to look into that myself :) | 04:28 |
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| apus | why it makes it faster I dont know | 04:28 |
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| flaccid | apus: can we not talk about fortran again today please | 04:29 |
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| apus | lol | 04:29 |
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| hitmanWilly | apus, i HATE pointers, its why i don't know C any better than i do | 04:29 |
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| intelikey | NASA still uses the transport device built for the satern V rockets in the 1960s "if it aint broke, ..." | 04:29 |
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| apus | the crawler... rawr | 04:30 |
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| yurimxpxman | do any of you know where I can find the original vi for download? | 04:30 |
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| hitmanWilly | imagine commuting in that thing...i merge, NOW | 04:30 |
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| hitmanWilly | :) | 04:30 |
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| intelikey | yurimxpxman origenal.... no very old version check slackware | 04:31 |
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| intelikey | hitmanWilly heh. | 04:31 |
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| hitmanWilly | vi is GNU, right? maybe their site? | 04:31 |
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| intelikey | hitmanWilly not likely. | 04:32 |
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| makuseru | can i upgrade from edgy to fesity by changing edgy to feisty in my sources.lsit | 04:32 |
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| intelikey | i mean not likely that they would still have an ancient copy posted | 04:32 |
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| makuseru | ? | 04:32 |
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| jtt | yurimxpxman, find a very old AT&T unix machine it may be there | 04:32 |
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| kalorin` | hitmanWilly: you mean, "I merge Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow" | 04:32 |
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| kalorin` | (insert more o's | 04:32 |
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| kalorin` | ) | 04:32 |
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| hitmanWilly | rofl | 04:32 |
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| yurimxpxman | jtt: I don't have any clue where I could find one of those. The only link I've found to it for download is now broken | 04:33 |
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| jtt | yurimxpxman, no better than that email bill joy he build it while attending berkely | 04:33 |
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| dwidmann | http://directory.fsf.org/search/fsd-search.py?q=vi | 04:33 |
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| jtt | he may have a copy of the original | 04:33 |
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| yurimxpxman | jtt: That's actually not a bad idea. I could ask Kirk if I can't get a hold of Bill Joy. Kirk's a friend of mine | 04:33 |
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| jtt | bill joy may still have a sun email bill.joy@sun.com | 04:34 |
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| dwidmann | makuseru: why not try the dist-upgrade tool mentioned in the channel topic | 04:34 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | anyone know how to get a PCMCIA Wifi card to work? | 04:34 |
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| yurimxpxman | jtt: I found it! :D http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net/ | 04:34 |
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| hitmanWilly | wow... | 04:34 |
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| hitmanWilly | it DOES still exist | 04:35 |
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| jtt | yurimxpxman, how about those apples, great | 04:35 |
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| sparr | I need to view a lot of jpeg images and delete or skip each one. I need it to pre-load the next image so that I don't have to wait after each one (there are thousands). Suggestions? | 04:35 |
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| DaSkreech | hitmanWilly: It's much older than Gnu | 04:35 |
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| apus | how do I change a folder so that the current user can execute | 04:35 |
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| hitmanWilly | yeah, im seeing that, my nix history gets pretty fuzzy before 98 | 04:36 |
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| DaSkreech | apus: You can't execute a directory? | 04:36 |
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| apus | files int he directory I mean | 04:37 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech you must execute a dir or no cd into it | 04:37 |
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| jtt | i think he means execute files in the current directory | 04:37 |
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| intelikey | apus chmod | 04:37 |
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| DaSkreech | intelikey: I know that' I'm surprised he has one with no execute on it | 04:37 |
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| intelikey | apus what fs is it on ? | 04:37 |
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| DaSkreech | not the sort of thing that happens by accident | 04:37 |
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| apus | fs? | 04:37 |
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| stdin | apus: just make the files executeable, chmod +x file (that makes them world executable) | 04:37 |
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| stdin | FS= FileSystem | 04:38 |
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| intelikey | apus yes what fs = file system | 04:38 |
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| apus | its ext3 | 04:38 |
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| intelikey | yeah chmod | 04:38 |
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| apus | this is in a folder that I will be doing a lot of quick coding in, is there a way I can make it so anything in this folder is executable | 04:38 |
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| intelikey | apus no | 04:38 |
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| apus | in our lab we NEVER chmod our executables, we just compile and go | 04:39 |
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| intelikey | chmod -R will set recursively but anything new will have default perms | 04:39 |
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| apus | can I change default perms for this folder | 04:40 |
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| intelikey | apus make install generally does a chmod | 04:40 |
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| apus | make install? | 04:40 |
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| intelikey | apus not for one dir only i don't think. | 04:40 |
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| LeeJunFan | if the fs is mounted as fat then all are executable if the fs is mounted with exec option. | 04:40 |
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| apus | its ext3 | 04:40 |
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| intelikey | LeeJunFan he said ext3 | 04:40 |
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| stdin | maybe with umask (in bash) | 04:40 |
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| LeeJunFan | at the lab too? | 04:40 |
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| apus | i can check, what command would I run to see the file system | 04:41 |
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| LeeJunFan | apus: mount | 04:41 |
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| intelikey | stdin umask = 000 ? that would make touch blah ;ls blah -l >>> 666 perms no? | 04:42 |
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| stdin | intelikey: 777 i think | 04:42 |
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| jtt | 777 umask subtracts from 777 | 04:42 |
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| apus | type "none" | 04:43 |
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| DaSkreech | Are we having a release party? | 04:43 |
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| apus | LeeJunFan: | 04:43 |
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| apus | LeeJunFan: the type is "none" | 04:43 |
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| apus | is there a better command to see the file type? | 04:44 |
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| stdin | intelikey: seems it's set to 666 if umask is 000 | 04:44 |
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| intelikey | stdin that's what i said.... | 04:44 |
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| hitmanWilly | umask -111? | 04:44 |
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| stdin | intelikey: I had to check, never really used it before tho | 04:46 |
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| hitmanWilly | will that work? | 04:46 |
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| intelikey | stdin you beet me to full proff but yeah | 04:46 |
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| apus | actually, it looks like nfs | 04:46 |
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| apus | mount -l and they all say type nfs | 04:46 |
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| intelikey | hitmanWilly the dash would cause it to error | 04:46 |
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| hitmanWilly | ok, not really familair with umask | 04:46 |
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| LeeJunFan | apus: hrm, the project dir could be anything then. | 04:46 |
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| apus | i could work around it, make a script that runs the compile command, and then the chmod | 04:46 |
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| stdin | hitmanWilly: it seems to be a bash built-in, "help umask" in bash shows some usage | 04:46 |
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| intelikey | apus anything on a M$ fs is +x | 04:46 |
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| apus | can anyone recommend a good remote desktop program to connect to a windows server | 04:47 |
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| sparr | apus: krdc | 04:47 |
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| giovani | rdesktop? | 04:47 |
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| intelikey | !freenx | 04:48 |
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| ubotu | FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX | 04:48 |
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| intelikey | apus the short answer is "yes". | 04:49 |
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| intelikey | :) | 04:49 |
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| kamui | I think I finally got my laptop running perfectly, the pen works great, I still can't rotate the screen or use the tablet pc's special buttons, but things are looking good (its a convertible). The only issue I have is since I did an apt-get install kde and later and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, every apt-get I do now says I have unused packages and seems to want to dispose of everything I have kde related | 04:49 |
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| hitmanWilly | oh, duh...my handy book here says you can use symbolic cmds with umask ie +x | 04:49 |
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| kamui | anyway to clear the apt- autoremove "queue"? | 04:49 |
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| DaSkreech | Expected more people | 04:49 |
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| hitmanWilly | err, actually -x in this case | 04:51 |
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| Rictoo | http://rafb.net/p/wrgOIs92.html | 04:51 |
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| Rictoo | Can someone tell me why ndiswrapper is just plain-out not working? =/ | 04:51 |
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| apus | any way we can get our hands on the torrent being released tomorrow? I have 1 mbyte uplink | 04:51 |
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| apus | I could seed | 04:52 |
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| kalorin` | so anyone have an editor that compares well with ultraedit on windows? | 04:56 |
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| kalorin` | that's the one thing I've yet to find | 04:56 |
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| kalorin` | (other than a way to make photoshop run outside of vmware) | 04:56 |
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| apus | kalorin`: well, I downloaded ultraedit for windows once I saw how good kate was | 04:56 |
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| TheDebugger | Try virtualbox, you could be surprised.. like me | 04:56 |
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| TheDebugger | ( Like vmware but better imo ) | 04:56 |
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| kamui | kalorin`: I love vim | 04:56 |
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| kamui | no better editor | 04:56 |
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| kamui | maybe emacs | 04:56 |
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| kalorin` | kamui: yeah vim is very nice | 04:56 |
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| kalorin` | but ultraedit has some features that are just too nice | 04:56 |
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| kamui | conversion of values | 04:56 |
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| kamui | syntax for every language | 04:56 |
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| kamui | etc? | 04:56 |
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| apus | kalorin`: try kate, you cant go wrong, block edit mode, mass commenting, line numbering, and it supports syntax for most lanugages | 04:56 |
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| intelikey | kalorin` i like "mc -e " | 04:56 |
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| kamui | vimscripts.org can fix it | 04:56 |
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| kalorin` | k I'll give it a whirl | 04:56 |
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| kamui | if you're really desparate, notepad++ runs in wine ;) | 04:56 |
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| kalorin` | vim I'd like to use mouse support for | 04:56 |
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| kamui | kalorin`: and you could always try to run ultraedit in hine | 04:56 |
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| kalorin` | well ultraedit runs in wine | 04:56 |
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| kalorin` | if you want to call that running | 04:56 |
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| kamui | kalorin`: try gtk vim or kvim | 04:56 |
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| kalorin` | it's WAY slow | 04:56 |
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| kamui | for vim w/ a gui | 04:56 |
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| kamui | kalorin`: really? | 04:56 |
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| intelikey | mc does mice | 04:56 |
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| flaccid | whats wrong with the k programs like kate and kdevelop | 04:56 |
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| kamui | nothing | 04:56 |
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| kamui | I suggested kvim | 04:56 |
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| kalorin` | well there's just a ton to sift through | 04:56 |
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| kalorin` | thus I ask what folks are using and work from those suggestion | 04:56 |
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| kamui | kate is weak, and kdevelop is more of a pure ide then text editor | 04:56 |
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| kalorin` | it helps filter | 04:56 |
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| intelikey | flaccid they are tied to a gui | 04:56 |
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| flaccid | i don't understand the problem here | 04:57 |
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| flaccid | why iskate weak? | 04:57 |
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| kalorin` | no problem | 04:57 |
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| kamui | I like vim/and its gtk,qt,kde variants because no matter what enviroment you're in, you have an extremely powerful editor available | 04:57 |
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| hitmanWilly | ok, nevermind on the umask thing :) | 04:57 |
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| kamui | that doesn't change | 04:57 |
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| flaccid | i use it all day | 04:57 |
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| kalorin` | kate is pretty good | 04:57 |
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| kamui | I hate kate, but thats a personal feeling | 04:57 |
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| kamui | its like using notepad | 04:57 |
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| kalorin` | I just end up doing a ton of data manipulation day in and day out | 04:57 |
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| flaccid | im a programmer and don't see what features you could possibly need.. | 04:57 |
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| kamui | only useful for quick viewing files if anything | 04:58 |
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| kalorin` | hex editing would be nice | 04:58 |
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| flaccid | well use a hex editor then | 04:58 |
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| kamui | flaccid: Im willing to bet 80% of us here are programmers | 04:58 |
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| yurimxpxman | I just installed the original vi, but it's not displaying anything on the screen when I open a file, except '"README" 145 lines, 6062 characters'. What am I doing wrong here? | 04:58 |
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| kalorin` | macros I didn't see | 04:58 |
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| apus | I do all of my programming in kate | 04:58 |
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| intelikey | comparing kate with notepad is like comparing kde with twm | 04:58 |
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| flaccid | kamui: i'm willing to be thats incorrect | 04:58 |
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| kalorin` | I have eclipse for programming | 04:58 |
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| intelikey | they both run in a gui.... that's about the end of the comparison | 04:59 |
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| flaccid | it depends what you are coding. if you need more features than editing, thats what IDEs are for.. | 04:59 |
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| kamui | there in lies the beauty of vim | 04:59 |
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| kamui | its an ide/text editor/ultimate editor. | 04:59 |
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| apus | anyone know where I can get info on seeding the torrent for tomorrow | 04:59 |
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| imagine | vi sux | 04:59 |
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| kalorin` | vim is very powerful, no question | 04:59 |
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| jtt | yurimxpxman, original vi was not gui only command line | 05:00 |
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| kalorin` | I love vim | 05:00 |
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| DaSkreech | !adeptcrashfix | 05:00 |
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| flaccid | but what features specifically are you talking about? | 05:00 |
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| ubotu | If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a | 05:00 |
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| imagine | I only use vi for editing config file | 05:00 |
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| yurimxpxman | jtt: I'm running it in a terminal | 05:00 |
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| flaccid | its cool to say its ultimate but why | 05:00 |
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| kamui | flaccid: I say that because it can do just about anything | 05:00 |
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| kamui | you want it to do | 05:00 |
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| jtt | yurimxpxman, ok type :1 see it it goes to line 1 of the file | 05:00 |
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| flaccid | kamui: thats a useless comment. it can't cook eggs for me | 05:00 |
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| jtt | yurimxpxman, thats colon followed by 1 | 05:01 |
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| yurimxpxman | jtt: Thanks! That works! :D How do you show more than one line at a time then? | 05:01 |
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| kamui | flaccid: that was also a useless comment, who wants a text editor to cook eggs | 05:01 |
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| === intelikey 's been trying for a month to get vim to make his bed |
| kamui | :) | 05:01 |
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| hitmanWilly | i do... | 05:01 |
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| jtt | yurimxpxman, :1,5p | 05:01 |
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| flaccid | kamui: you never specified a limit. you said that it can do just about anything | 05:01 |
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| sonicchao | Okay. you know the backround in konqueror? | 05:01 |
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| hitmanWilly | it would save me a lot of work | 05:01 |
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| hitmanWilly | :) | 05:01 |
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| jtt | yurimxpxman, you ar taxing my memory | 05:01 |
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| yurimxpxman | jtt: You are my hero! :D | 05:01 |
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| kamui | well flaccid: for a programmer I can understand that you really think the sky's the limit | 05:02 |
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| flaccid | so if you have no actual argument for vim.. | 05:02 |
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| sonicchao | (say you were looking at trash:/ how do I change the background behind the icons?) | 05:02 |
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| flaccid | its called UoD | 05:02 |
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| jtt | yurimxpxman, it takes most of the commands you would normally type at the prompt | 05:02 |
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| jtt | in the gui that is | 05:02 |
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| kamui | but in all seriousness, it can be used for almost anything related to text editing and data entry | 05:02 |
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| kamui | and it can be done on almost every platform | 05:02 |
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| yurimxpxman | jtt: I've always used vim. I had no idea you had to tell vi to display the text. That seems a bit strange to me. | 05:03 |
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| apus | saying java is good because it works on all platforms is like saying anal sex is good because it works on all genders | 05:03 |
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| flaccid | please define 'almost anythign related to text editing' | 05:03 |
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| jtt | yurimxpxman, that was what we used before the gui's came along | 05:03 |
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| flaccid | it might be a good idea to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe_of_discourse | 05:03 |
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| kamui | I'ts been defined enough. | 05:03 |
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| yurimxpxman | jtt: What did you start out on? | 05:04 |
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| kamui | if you want to continue to be an ass, lets at least move onto a different topic | 05:04 |
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| flaccid | it hasn't been defined at all | 05:04 |
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| kalorin` | I only want omlets with mushrooms, salsa, onions, and maybe some chicken | 05:04 |
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| kalorin` | so if it'll do that, I'm happy | 05:04 |
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| kalorin` | otherwise spare the eggs | 05:04 |
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| kalorin` | ;) | 05:04 |
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| jtt | yurimxpxman, better yet try to use ed that is the original UNIX editor written by someone at Bell Labs that worked with Kernigan and Richie and Thompson | 05:04 |
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| jtt | yurimxpxman, it is really fun | 05:04 |
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| yurimxpxman | jtt: that'd be a terrific experience. | 05:04 |
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| flaccid | this is the most useless off-topic conversation i've had for at least half a day in this channel.. | 05:04 |
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| yurimxpxman | jtt: what was your first machine? | 05:05 |
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| kamui | speaking of which, when DID you actually get invited into the conversation | 05:05 |
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| kamui | oh wait, it was my fault. | 05:05 |
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| intelikey | flaccid ummm two hours but who's counting | 05:05 |
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| apus | why put the emphasis on "did" | 05:05 |
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| jtt | yurimxpxman, pdp 1145 tape boot select the 077777777 switches real fun | 05:05 |
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| flaccid | intelikey: how can we make it stop | 05:05 |
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| flaccid | !off-topic | 05:05 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:05 |
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| yurimxpxman | jtt: what OS were you running? | 05:05 |
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| kamui | emphasising of didn't seem right there. | 05:06 |
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| flaccid | !offtopic | 05:06 |
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| ubotu | #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! | 05:06 |
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| DaSkreech | sonicchao: It's in the Konqueror config | 05:06 |
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| intelikey | flaccid we could call the opps and get our buts baned ? | 05:06 |
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| stdin | nah, all the ops are sleeping now | 05:07 |
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| stdin | best not to disturb them | 05:07 |
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| DaSkreech | are the torrents up for Feisty? | 05:08 |
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| DaSkreech | When does this chan become offically Feisty support? | 05:08 |
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| stdin | DaSkreech: when it's released :) | 05:08 |
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| DaSkreech | stdin: that's UTC right? | 05:08 |
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| sonicchao | DaSkreech: I've looked. | 05:08 |
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| flaccid | heh | 05:09 |
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| intelikey | DaSkreech or the second tuesday of next week.... | 05:09 |
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| DaSkreech | Hmm I have to add nutrional info to Catfish in Krecipe | 05:09 |
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| stdin | when the ISO is out, and I get an email with the subject "feisty is out", then i'll stop sending people to +1 | 05:09 |
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| stdin | :p | 05:09 |
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| DaSkreech | stdin: reasonable | 05:10 |
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| DaSkreech | Hey | 05:10 |
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| DaSkreech | speaking of hybrid where is Hawkwind? | 05:10 |
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| sonicchao | DaSkreech: It is in appearance, isn't it? | 05:10 |
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| DaSkreech | sonicchao: Not sure | 05:10 |
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| sonicchao | DaSkreech: D: I have looked through appearance, and I can confirm that it ain't there. | 05:12 |
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| DaSkreech | Okie :) | 05:12 |
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| ferret_0568 | Does anybody know of a cool Mac OS X-like Dock that is in a Ubuntu package? | 05:13 |
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| DaSkreech | !dock | 05:13 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:13 |
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| DaSkreech | We don't have dock factiod yet? | 05:13 |
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| ferret_0568 | He's a serious bot, he doesn't mess with GUI stuff | 05:13 |
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| DaSkreech | really? | 05:14 |
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| DaSkreech | !X | 05:14 |
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| ubotu | The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto | 05:14 |
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| sonicchao | lol | 05:14 |
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| ferret_0568 | Nah, not really | 05:14 |
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| DaSkreech | Can't get more GUI than that :) | 05:14 |
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| hitmanWilly | !kooldock | 05:14 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about kooldock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:14 |
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| sonicchao | !kde | 05:14 |
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| ubotu | KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information. | 05:14 |
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| ferret_0568 | !info kooldock] | 05:14 |
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| ubotu | kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB | 05:14 |
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| hitmanWilly | !info kooldock | 05:14 |
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| sonicchao | Yeah, you can. | 05:14 |
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| ferret_0568 | I'll try it out | 05:15 |
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| ferret_0568 | ...after I get GNOME purged | 05:15 |
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| intelikey | ferret_0568 the "] " a typo ? | 05:15 |
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| ferret_0568 | Yeah | 05:15 |
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| DaSkreech | ferret_0568: really fat fingers? | 05:15 |
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| ferret_0568 | No | 05:15 |
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| ferret_0568 | Really skinny fingers | 05:16 |
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| DaSkreech | Oh its by the enter key? | 05:16 |
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| intelikey | i'm a little surprised that ubotu let you by with it. | 05:16 |
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| dryribs | anybody have a minute to help me with a %^& mp3 problem. I'm (obviously) a new user. | 05:16 |
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| ferret_0568 | I don't type the correct way | 05:16 |
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| DaSkreech | !mp3 | dryribs | 05:16 |
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| ubotu | dryribs: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 05:16 |
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| dryribs | thanks | 05:16 |
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| ferret_0568 | dryribs? I would like Ribs, not dry Ribs! dryribs, can you get me some real Ribs? | 05:16 |
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| dryribs | sorry man, these are only dry | 05:17 |
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| ferret_0568 | ... | 05:17 |
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| ferret_0568 | I'm about to remove GNOME | 05:18 |
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| intelikey | you aren't from wonded knee are you ? | 05:18 |
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| ferret_0568 | No | 05:18 |
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| ferret_0568 | I'm not | 05:18 |
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| dryribs | Does the default location of the multiverse packages vary based on what geographic location I selected when I installed Kubuntu? | 05:18 |
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| ferret_0568 | travis@ubuntulaptop:~/Desktop$ sed -e 's/ lib[^ ] *//g' Packages\ to\ remove\ n\'\ purge | sed -e 's/ gimp[^ ] *//g' | sed -e 's/ gaim[^ ] *//g' | sed -e 's/ shared-mime-info[^ ] *//g' > test | 05:18 |
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| ferret_0568 | This is a small window | 05:18 |
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| ferret_0568 | I don't really know how to use sed, I got that trick from #bash | 05:19 |
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| bill_k | just got the kubuntu 20070417 and booted to livecd. Bluetooth keyboard + mouse not working. (had the same issue with 6.10) Can anyone help me out? | 05:19 |
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| intelikey | dryribs "deb http://www.<country code here>.ubuntu*" | 05:20 |
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| sonicchao | I've never actually heard of a case where keyboards do work that are wireless. | 05:20 |
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| stdin | intelikey: www? | 05:20 |
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| dryribs | the reason I ask, is that I can't apt-get the libxine-extracodecs package | 05:20 |
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| intelikey | dryribs in the /etc/apt/sources.list | 05:20 |
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| stdin | intelikey: shouldn't it be <country code>.archive.ubuntu.com | 05:21 |
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| intelikey | stdin no www in yours ? | 05:21 |
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| stdin | intelikey: none | 05:21 |
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| intelikey | stdin ah yeah archive.ub | 05:21 |
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| dryribs | I uncommented my sources.list file... Would it be possible that the canada location wouldn't have the file? | 05:21 |
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| DaSkreech | ferret_0568: What are you doing? | 05:21 |
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| intelikey | stdin hmmmm. | 05:22 |
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| stdin | dryribs: post the file to pastebin and we'll have a look at it for you | 05:22 |
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| intelikey | dryribs did you update after you altered the file ? | 05:22 |
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| DaSkreech | dryribs: did you add in the word multiverse? | 05:22 |
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| stdin | !pastebin | 05:22 |
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| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) | 05:22 |
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| bill_k | sonicchao: it's the logitech dinovo. The bluetooth pairs by hardware I believe (via connect button on usb adapter and keyboard + mouse) and works in bios and booting. But once the gui loads it dies | 05:22 |
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| dryribs | ok, hold on. I have updated since (I changed it last night) | 05:22 |
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| ferret_0568 | DaSkreech: removing GNOME | 05:22 |
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| DaSkreech | ferret_0568: Shouldn't you be able to remove some glibs and get rid of it? | 05:23 |
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| intelikey | gconf | 05:23 |
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| bill_k | intelikey: any ideas on getting my keyboard working ;) | 05:24 |
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| ferret_0568 | No | 05:24 |
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| pedro | hi, anyone brazilian, for help me? | 05:24 |
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| stdin | !br | 05:24 |
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| ubotu | Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado. | 05:24 |
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| pedro | thaks | 05:25 |
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| pedro | thanks | 05:25 |
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| dryribs | the contents of my sources.list file is now pastebin'd to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16355/ | 05:25 |
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| ferret_0568 | There will be some libs required by GNOME that are also required by KDE | 05:25 |
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| ferret_0568 | My package list for removing GNOME is for Edgy, not Feisty | 05:25 |
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| intelikey | bill_k maybe try setting xorg to NOT touch the keymap ? | 05:25 |
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| ferret_0568 | So I had to filter out the libs with this: sed -e 's/ lib[^ ] *//g' Packages\ to\ remove\ n\'\ purge | 05:26 |
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| intelikey | bill_k no not really. | 05:26 |
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| bill_k | intelikey: how do I do that? just commenting out lines? | 05:26 |
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| stdin | dryribs: yeah, multiverse isn't there, I'll add it, then you can copy it back | 05:26 |
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| dirgedoll | whats a fun game for kde to dl out of adept. :) No preferences, just looking fomr something else that is fun | 05:26 |
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| bill_k | tuxracer? | 05:26 |
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| kalorin` | open arena | 05:26 |
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| dirgedoll | ok | 05:26 |
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| kalorin` | not sure it's adept | 05:26 |
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| stdin | dryribs: use this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16356/ | 05:27 |
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| dryribs | isn't it in line 26 and 27? is there a good resource on the web for modifying the file? | 05:27 |
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| dryribs | thanks stdin | 05:27 |
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| intelikey | bill_k i don't know if xorg can read a raw keyboard. sorry. you might ask in #xorg also you can ask in #ubuntu someone in there may have that hardware. | 05:27 |
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| dirgedoll | if it isn't adept, is it synaptic? | 05:27 |
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| DaSkreech | !easysource | 05:27 |
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| ubotu | source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic | 05:27 |
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| stdin | dirgedoll: ever tried frozen-bubble ? | 05:27 |
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| bill_k | intelikey: thanks :) | 05:27 |
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| dirgedoll | no i havent | 05:27 |
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| ferret_0568 | frozen-bubble is awesome! | 05:27 |
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| ferret_0568 | Ever try Enemy Territory? | 05:28 |
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| stdin | dirgedoll: it's a cool game, you HAVE to try it | 05:28 |
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| ferret_0568 | gl-117, supertux? | 05:28 |
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| dirgedoll | ok | 05:28 |
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| ferret_0568 | TORCS, GTetrinet, Armagetron Advanced, all free | 05:28 |
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| ferret_0568 | I love Linux! | 05:28 |
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| sonicchao | DaSkreech: View -> Configure background | 05:29 |
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| DaSkreech | sonicchao: Duh! it's not in the config at all | 05:29 |
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| DaSkreech | Where it would be obvious to put it | 05:29 |
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| intelikey | bill_k also a test you might preform boot to the full system and hit [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1] see if it will drop you in a console. test the magic sysrq keys too. | 05:29 |
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| DaSkreech | Of course!!!! | 05:29 |
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| dirgedoll | no but i will hehe | 05:29 |
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| intelikey | !sysrq | 05:29 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about sysrq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:29 |
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| sonicchao | I know D: | 05:29 |
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| ferret_0568 | So much free and great stuff! | 05:30 |
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| ferret_0568 | I'll get a screenshot... | 05:30 |
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| bill_k | intelikey: I can only get to ctrl + alt+ f1 before the login screen loads. Once it's loaded, nothing works, even in the virtual termnals. I can boot to recovery mode though | 05:30 |
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| jbrouhard | Anyone have trouble upgrading edgy to fiesty ? | 05:30 |
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| jbrouhard | i just ran the installation instructions on the FiestyUPgrades page | 05:31 |
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| jbrouhard | and I don't see anything that says "Version UPgrade" | 05:31 |
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| intelikey | bill_k ok then you have tested.... that info is useful, i just don't have the answers for you. | 05:31 |
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| bill_k | intelikey: how do I kill bluetooth? | 05:31 |
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| intelikey | bill_k kill the pid or sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth* stop | 05:32 |
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| bill_k | ok | 05:32 |
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| bill_k | will try it, lol | 05:32 |
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| uranos | kubunmtu con que estas | 05:33 |
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| bill_k | because I figure the system has usb support but not bt when booting. So If I kill bt support, maybe it will work? | 05:33 |
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| uranos | en que version | 05:33 |
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| intelikey | bill_k if you have another box you can connect to that with you should be able to do lots of trubble shooting in and ssh | 05:33 |
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| intelikey | and/an | 05:34 |
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| reldruh | Can somebody please help me solve a problem I'm having with mounting a samba share in my fstab file? I keep getting Access Denied errors and nothing I've tried has fixed them | 05:34 |
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| intelikey | stdin your phone is ringing | 05:34 |
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| bill_k | intelikey: I'm in a college dorm so I've been stealing a keyboard from the computer lab downstairs :) | 05:35 |
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| jtt | since they have declared the RC canidates will RC's be the Final Release or will they make changes then Release Final | 05:35 |
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| jtt | depending on the bugs that is | 05:35 |
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| intelikey | depending on the bugs | 05:35 |
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| stdin | intelikey: huh? | 05:36 |
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| intelikey | jtt if you update right now. chances are you will have the release version. | 05:36 |
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| intelikey | stdin see reldruh | 05:36 |
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| jtt | intelikey, well i have all the RC's a/o 4/15 and 4/17 | 05:36 |
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| stdin | ahh | 05:37 |
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| jtt | intelikey, so i wondered if they will be the Finals | 05:37 |
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| stdin | reldruh: post your fstab to pastebin please | 05:37 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | anybody have some smartz they could lend to a noob? | 05:37 |
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| peanutb | does anyone know how to tell why my laptop is shuttingdown randomly when encoding mp3s (with Liblame)? | 05:38 |
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| intelikey | jtt that i couldn't say. but if you are running feisty and you update now. it's not likely that there will be any major change tomarrow. | 05:38 |
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| ferret_0568 | http://travism.hopto.org/~travis/Screenshots/KDE/My_Cool_KDE_Desktop.png | 05:38 |
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| jtt | intelikey, yeah figured as much thanks | 05:39 |
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| intelikey | Kubuntu-Noob yeah. stay away from computers. they'll ruin your sex life. | 05:39 |
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| reldruh | stdin: http://www.pastebin.ca/447549 | 05:39 |
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| ferret_0568 | There' | 05:39 |
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| ferret_0568 | There's my cool KDE desktop | 05:39 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | running livecd and sudo depmod -a complains "Read-only file system" | 05:39 |
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| peanutb | ferret_0568, where is the wallpaper from? | 05:40 |
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| bill_k | ferret_0568: aaah Java!!! | 05:40 |
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| stdin | reldruh: do you need to supply a username/password to access aaron-server/Music ? | 05:40 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | about lib/modules/2.6.18-kanotix-l/modules | 05:40 |
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| intelikey | Kubuntu-Noob yeah you can't alter the system files on a cd. | 05:40 |
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| justin_myrick | i cannot run the kubuntu 6.10 live cd. it freezes saying there are errors on hdc (my cdrom drive), does anyone have any tips? | 05:40 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | oh so thats not a ramdrive or something | 05:41 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | so if I install to HD it should work | 05:41 |
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| intelikey | should | 05:41 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | that step at least | 05:41 |
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| intelikey | yes | 05:41 |
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| reldruh | stdin: not to browse it using smb:/. When I put in a username and password I still get the error message. When I just put a username and no password I get 'anonymous login successful' but then access denied | 05:41 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | trying to get wifi to work | 05:41 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | found a forum artical that says I need to do | 05:41 |
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| justin_myrick | hello? | 05:42 |
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| DaSkreech | leileilol: hey | 05:42 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | sudo depmod -a after ndiswrapper -i w511.inf | 05:42 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | got past the ndiswrapper step | 05:42 |
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| stdin | reldruh: can you mount manually "sudo mount -t smbfs //aaron-server/Music /home/aaron/Media/Music" ? | 05:42 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | but does this mean theres no way to get wifi working from live-cd ? | 05:42 |
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| ferret_0568 | http://www.kuznetsov.uklinux.net/gallery-linux-tuxperience.php | 05:42 |
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| justin_myrick | hello? | 05:43 |
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| justin_myrick | hello | 05:43 |
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| justin_myrick | hello | 05:43 |
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| justin_myrick | hello | 05:43 |
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| justin_myrick | hello | 05:43 |
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| justin_myrick | hello | 05:43 |
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| justin_myrick | hello | 05:43 |
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| justin_myrick | hello | 05:43 |
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| justin_myrick | hello | 05:43 |
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| reldruh | stdin: no, same error message | 05:43 |
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| stdin | asking for a ban there justin_myrick | 05:43 |
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| Dr_willis | hmm | 05:43 |
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| stdin | reldruh: what is the exact error message? | 05:43 |
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| justin_myrick | sry | 05:43 |
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| ferret_0568 | http://www.kuznetsov.uklinux.net/gallery-jokes-laptop.php | 05:43 |
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| dryribs | thanks <stdin>, you saved my life. | 05:44 |
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| reldruh | stdin: "8427: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)" | 05:44 |
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| intelikey | Kubuntu-Noob yeah, i could be mistaken but i believe you are trying to rewrite the actual file on the cd when you issue the depmod command. they weren't really expecting people to alter the kernel on the live | 05:44 |
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| stdin | dryribs: no problem :) | 05:44 |
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| ferret_0568 | Apparently, that's Bill Gates trying to crush Tux | 05:44 |
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| ferret_0568 | Tux wins though :-D | 05:44 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | tux is the penguin right? | 05:45 |
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| intelikey | of course. cause he's really really cool | 05:45 |
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| ferret_0568 | Yeah, the Linux mascor | 05:45 |
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| ferret_0568 | mascot* | 05:45 |
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| stdin | reldruh: what if you try cifs, instead on smbfs "sudo mount -t cifs //aaron-server/Music /home/aaron/Media/Music" | 05:45 |
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| intelikey | penguin cool play on words... | 05:45 |
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| intelikey | never mind | 05:45 |
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| bobstro | ferret_0568: no Kill Bill wallpapers? | 05:46 |
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| ferret_0568 | I believe there are some on that site | 05:46 |
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| bobstro | ferret_0568: my fave, though damned hard to look at after an hour or so. too bright. | 05:47 |
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| reldruh | stdin: "mount error: could not find target server. TCP name aaron-server/Music not found. No ip address specified and hostname not found" When I substitute the ip address of my server I get "mount error 13 = Permission denied" | 05:47 |
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| ferret_0568 | http://www.kuznetsov.uklinux.net/gallery-jokes-mnt-tuxmore.php | 05:47 |
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| kermit_ | I need some video card advice any video card gurus in here? | 05:47 |
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| intelikey | !nv | kermit_ | 05:48 |
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| ubotu | kermit_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 05:48 |
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| stdin | reldruh: you used sudo? | 05:48 |
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| kermit_ | actaully on what card to get | 05:48 |
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| dirgedoll | thanks for the wallpaper | 05:48 |
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| reldruh | yes stdin | 05:48 |
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| dirgedoll | ferret | 05:48 |
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| stdin | kermit_: avoid ATI like the plague | 05:48 |
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| intelikey | kermit_ atm i'd have to say "not ati" | 05:48 |
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| bobstro | installing kubuntu to a removable usb drive, i changed the target for grub to (sd0,0) and install keeps crashing writing grub out. i thought i'd done that previously on a different box, but no luck twice here. any suggestions on how to complete the install? | 05:48 |
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| kermit_ | lol that is what I currently have and that is why I am asking :-) | 05:49 |
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| ferret_0568 | http://www.kuznetsov.uklinux.net/gallery-jokes-against.php | 05:49 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | thanks for the tips intelikey gonna install to hd now | 05:49 |
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| intelikey | kermit_ that may change but ati is very non-free even anti-free | 05:49 |
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| kermit_ | I currently have a 9600 w/256MB would a inexpensive FX5200 w/128 be a "ok" choice? | 05:49 |
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| Dr_willis | bobstro, I recall the 'ubuntu hacks' book had a chapter on doing that.. but that was for the older ubuntu. Never tried a usb drive install myself. Perhaps check the forums. | 05:49 |
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| Dr_willis | bobstro, what version you trying to install? | 05:50 |
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| dirgedoll | lol | 05:50 |
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| bobstro | it's kubuntu 6.10 | 05:50 |
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| stdin | reldruh: try putting a username and pass then, "sudo mount -t cifs (IP-Address)/Music /home/aaron/Media/Music -o user=(USERNAME),password=(PASSWORD)" | 05:50 |
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| Cosmo_ | in the nvidia-settings it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it like I was able to do before, how do I fix this? | 05:50 |
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| intelikey | Cosmo_ first Q. what changed ? did you install something? remove something ? update something ? | 05:51 |
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| reldruh | stdin: still "mount error 13= Permission denied" | 05:51 |
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| bobstro | Dr_willis: i suppose i should wait a couple days and use the newer version, but just want to get this done. | 05:51 |
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| jtt | bobdhicks, are you getting this prompg grub> | 05:51 |
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| jtt | wrong bob | 05:52 |
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| jtt | bobstro, are you getting this prompt grub> | 05:52 |
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| stdin | reldruh: hmm, try mounting to somewhere else, like /mnt | 05:52 |
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| bobstro | jtt: me? no. all in the gui installer. it stops with something like "unable to install grub... fatal error". (i'm restarting it now to get exact details). | 05:52 |
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| stdin | bobstro: sd0,0 ? that doesn't look right | 05:53 |
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| jtt | bobstro, ok my mistake keep on keepin on | 05:53 |
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| intelikey | (hd0,0) | 05:53 |
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| reldruh | stdin: same thing. Could it be a problem with my smb.conf file? Or something on the server itself? | 05:53 |
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| ferret_0568 | Here's a good one: http://www.kuznetsov.uklinux.net/gallery-6-penguin-coffee.php | 05:53 |
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| bobstro | stdin: well, it defaults to (hd0,0) (from memory, re-running now) but i want it on usb drive. | 05:54 |
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| dirgedoll | mmm penguiny | 05:54 |
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| Cosmo_ | intelikey: I'm not sure, don't think I installed anything it was fine one time then the next time I restarted it didn't have as many options | 05:54 |
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| intelikey | ferret_0568 two is the limit. | 05:54 |
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| stdin | reldruh: smb.conf is for the samba server, so that's not it, looks more like it the win server not letting you connect | 05:54 |
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| stdin | bobstro: grub's different, it would be (hd1,0) or something like it | 05:55 |
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| ferret_0568 | two is the limit on what? | 05:55 |
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| reldruh | stdin: win server? There aren't any windows computers on my network | 05:55 |
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| bobstro | also, i have to pop out and reformat the target (/dev/sda2) before installer will go part partition designation screen. complains no root selected, even though i have. | 05:55 |
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| Cosmo_ | intelikey: I didn't install but I did enable beryl | 05:55 |
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| intelikey | ferret_0568 spam | 05:55 |
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| bobstro | stdin: ah, ok. maybe i'm just being a bonehead. it doesn't give hints, and my memory is likely the part broken. lemme try hd1,0 | 05:55 |
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| intelikey | Cosmo_ that could be it. | 05:55 |
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| ferret_0568 | spam? I figured people would like those | 05:55 |
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| stdin | reldruh: replace "win" with "samba" :) | 05:55 |
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| dirgedoll | I did | 05:55 |
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| Cosmo_ | intelikey: any way to fix it? | 05:56 |
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| jtt | bobstro, are you using the latest feisty | 05:56 |
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| intelikey | !beryl | Cosmo_ | 05:56 |
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| reldruh | stdin: ah. Why wouldn't it be letting me connect? I've set this up before. I don't know why it's not working now... | 05:56 |
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| ubotu | Cosmo_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects | 05:56 |
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| stdin | bobstro: you may have to add hd1 to the /boot/grub/device.map | 05:56 |
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| intelikey | you can ask in ^ | 05:56 |
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| jtt | bobstro, because that bug in partman was fixed a while back | 05:56 |
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| stdin | reldruh: something in the servers config | 05:56 |
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| intelikey | Cosmo_ maybe someone in ated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - | 05:56 |
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| intelikey | Help in #ubuntu-effects ca | 05:56 |
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| intelikey | ooops scroll cought that one. | 05:57 |
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| ferret_0568 | Maybe I should go into #ubuntu-offtopic and see if people like those | 05:57 |
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| bobstro | jtt: no, edgy. | 05:57 |
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| jtt | everyone should be downloading the daily-live cd's they are the RC's | 05:57 |
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| Dr_willis | bobstro, im using the Feisty RC now. :) | 05:57 |
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| jtt | bobstro, ok not the same | 05:57 |
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| nach | Hi all | 05:57 |
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| intelikey | Cosmo_ you can ask in #ubuntu-effects was what i was trying to say. | 05:57 |
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| ferret_0568 | Feisty is very stable | 05:58 |
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| reldruh | stdin: so I should keep playing with the config on my server? | 05:58 |
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| stdin | yeah | 05:58 |
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| intelikey | linux in general is pretty stable | 05:58 |
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| nach | enyone have a msi-megabook m670 ? | 05:58 |
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| nach | enyone have a msi-megabook m670 ? | 05:58 |
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| unix_infidel | Dr_willis: lol, you just installed the fiesty rc? | 05:59 |
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| Dr_willis | unix_infidel, 3 days ago | 05:59 |
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| Dr_willis | i always seem to do it this way :) | 05:59 |
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| nach | enyone have a msi-megabook m670 ? | 05:59 |
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| Dr_willis | avoide the rush. | 05:59 |
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| unix_infidel | Dr_willis: you just going to apt-get dist-upgrade to the final? | 05:59 |
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| apus | anyone know who I should talk to about seeding the distro | 06:00 |
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| Dr_willis | unix_infidel, i allready have as far as i can tell. I think the repos are 'locked' with no new updates in the last day or so. | 06:00 |
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| intelikey | nach you asked that already. try discribing your issue and see if anyone responds. | 06:00 |
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| unix_infidel | Dr_willis: really?! | 06:00 |
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| bobstro | ugh. ok drive just dropped off. i'll try again with release of feisty in a couple of days. | 06:00 |
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| unix_infidel | you think? who's your sourc?E | 06:00 |
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| Dr_willis | unix_infidel, i THINK i heard that mentioned in #ubuntu earlier. | 06:00 |
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| nach | just checking intelikey.... | 06:00 |
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| unix_infidel | Dr_willis: i dont hang on your every word :P | 06:01 |
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| Dr_willis | let me just apt-get update and see | 06:01 |
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| unix_infidel | unlike some in here :) | 06:01 |
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| apus | Dr_willis: How do I update to the final? I have 7.04 beta now | 06:01 |
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| Dr_willis | apt-get update, apt-get upgrade :) | 06:01 |
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| unix_infidel | i'm almost CERTAIN that the repos will be updated tomorrow. | 06:01 |
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| Dr_willis | there may be a dist-update thang. Not srue. :) | 06:01 |
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| intelikey | dist- | 06:01 |
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| unix_infidel | apt-get dist-upgrade | 06:01 |
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| Dr_willis | new updates new bugs.. and then the next day it begins again. | 06:02 |
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| Dr_willis | so why wait! heh heh | 06:02 |
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| intelikey | unix_infidel almost certain.... but probably not. | 06:02 |
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| nach | lol | 06:02 |
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| bobstro | and upgrades to feisty from edgy are going to be painless, right? | 06:02 |
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| Dr_willis | ive not had a update for like a day now i think. i tend to let it do that stuff at night. | 06:02 |
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| intelikey | bobstro who's been propogating that lie ??? | 06:03 |
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| Dr_willis | upgrades and painless? Heh heh.. yea right | 06:03 |
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| unix_infidel | Dr_willis: apt fetched updates? | 06:03 |
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| nach | not but isnt really necesary for the moment bobstro | 06:03 |
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| Dr_willis | theres a reason i always keep /home on its own hd. and do clean installs. | 06:03 |
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| Dr_willis | unix_infidel, i normally check every midnight here. nothing from yesterday at least. | 06:03 |
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| unix_infidel | Dr_willis: lol, wont take but a second to do it know. | 06:04 |
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| nach | well gl people c u later bye | 06:04 |
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| unix_infidel | now* | 06:04 |
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| Dr_willis | i bet the update servers will be getting hammered tomorrow. | 06:04 |
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| apus | how do I completely remove something that was "apt-get"ed | 06:04 |
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| Dr_willis | does it always seem that OpenOffice gets updated like every day for the first few weeks after a new release? | 06:04 |
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| unix_infidel | i got too many things to do to wait for a 300MB download to finish | 06:05 |
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| intelikey | <nach> well graphics library people cause unique later bye ??? | 06:05 |
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| stdin | apus: apt-get --purge remove package | 06:05 |
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| Trollaxor | I was referred here by RMS. | 06:05 |
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| unix_infidel | especially when servers are getting sucked dry. | 06:05 |
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| intelikey | root means square ? | 06:05 |
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| apus | I've done that stdin, but when I apt-get update it tries and grab it again | 06:05 |
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| Trollaxor | No. | 06:06 |
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| intelikey | stalman who ? | 06:06 |
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| james | what yo all up 2 | 06:06 |
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| james | this is prety boring | 06:06 |
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| Trollaxor | It could be any root. | 06:06 |
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| Trollaxor | Cube root, forth root... | 06:06 |
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| Trollaxor | Radical is square root. | 06:06 |
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| stdin | apus: that would be because something depends on it then | 06:06 |
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| kermit_ | would you guys assume that the little snags I receive while running Beryl/aiglx are because of my ati card? I have an athlon XP 1600 with 768 Ram | 06:06 |
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| luke__ | around here we use sudo | 06:06 |
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| intelikey | google rms Trollaxor | 06:07 |
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| kermit_ | with radeon 9600 256MB | 06:07 |
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| intelikey | kermit_ i might assume it's beryl | 06:07 |
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| bobstro | Dr_willis: /home is actually an nfs mount here, so that part is no big deal. so long as i can get nis going quickly, sounds like a fresh install is the way to go. | 06:07 |
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| Dr_willis | kermit_, the fact taht ati has 'issues' and that beryl is a bit of a work in progress also. :) | 06:08 |
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| hitmanWilly | kermit_, ati's always been buggy on nix, plus beryl itself is a bit buggy in its own right | 06:08 |
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| luke__ | I probably missed this earlier... | 06:08 |
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| Trollaxor | I heard that Linux is dying. | 06:08 |
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| luke__ | but does anyone know exactly when the new isos are out? | 06:08 |
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| Dr_willis | Trollaxor, "Tales of its death are greatly exaggerated" | 06:08 |
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| luke__ | (it's midnight on the east coast and europe now.) | 06:08 |
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| kermit_ | ok so a nvidia may not be of any help right now in your opinion? | 06:08 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | better not die | 06:08 |
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| bobstro | Trollaxor: yes, the insurgency is having its last gasp too. | 06:08 |
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| apus | does ktorrent support encryption | 06:08 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | I am just getting into it | 06:08 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | lol | 06:08 |
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| intelikey | Trollaxor come on you can do better than that. if you are looking for a ban you don't have to drag it out... | 06:08 |
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| bobstro | Trollaxor: you need to be careful where you get your 'fair and balanced' news from. | 06:09 |
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| jtt | luke__, probably sometime tomorrow after noon est | 06:09 |
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| Search4Lancer | arrgh.... Adept keeps giving me a "there was an error comitting changes" message... what do I do? | 06:09 |
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| Search4Lancer | it won't let me install or remove or upgrade any packages now | 06:09 |
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| bobstro | Trollaxor: not exactly like it *could* die. | 06:10 |
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| bobstro | that's the unicyclepedia i think. | 06:10 |
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| hitmanWilly | Search4Lancer, try running sudo dpkg --configure -a from command line | 06:10 |
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| apus | can someone remind me how to set up universal aliases | 06:10 |
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| Search4Lancer | hitmanWilly, that sounds about right... this isn't the first time it's happened, and probably won't be the last, just couldn't remember how I fixed it before | 06:11 |
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| intelikey | Search4Lancer try sudo apt-get install -f and see what it says. you'll either fix it or get usable error messages. | 06:11 |
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| luke__ | thanks jtt! | 06:11 |
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| Trollaxor | Wasn't Kubuntu named after Eric S. Raymond's Nigerian man-boy? | 06:12 |
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| hitmanWilly | Search4Lancer, it usually happens when an install crashes halfway through | 06:12 |
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| Search4Lancer | hitmanWilly, right, which is what happened sometime last week, just didn't have a need to try to fix it until now | 06:12 |
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| intelikey | hitmanWilly probably a lock file. but both yours and my sujestions will at least get useful error messages if some thing is wrong. | 06:13 |
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| hitmanWilly | intelikey, probably | 06:13 |
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| Search4Lancer | intelikey, your suggestion worked, privoxy was the culprit | 06:14 |
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| apus | when I do sudo apt-get update I see 6 "get : # " that I want to remove | 06:14 |
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| intelikey | welcome. | 06:14 |
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| intelikey | apus edit your sources.list | 06:15 |
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| Trollaxor | The Linux operating system is dying because of Linus Torvalds' addiction to MAME hardware porn is ruining his marriage. | 06:15 |
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| apus | intelikey: how? | 06:15 |
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| mark_ | Hey is Maximillion on? | 06:15 |
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| intelikey | apus sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list | 06:15 |
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| DaSkreech | !kops | 06:16 |
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| ubotu | Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato, haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal | 06:16 |
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| nixternal | huh? | 06:16 |
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| nixternal | ahh a troll | 06:16 |
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| apus | intelikey: thanks it worked | 06:17 |
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| nixternal | at least he admits he is a troll | 06:17 |
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| Trollaxor | A troll? Where? | 06:17 |
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| === stdin watches nixternal at work |
| nixternal | haha | 06:17 |
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| apus | whats the location of the file I have to edit to add aliases to bash | 06:17 |
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| intelikey | apus you're welcome. | 06:17 |
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| Search4Lancer | now if only the new version of KMyMoney2 wouldn't be asking for a nonexistent package, I'd be in good shape | 06:17 |
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| nixternal | Linux is a kernel by the way, so if you are going to troll, at least get your facts straight | 06:17 |
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| nixternal | Search4Lancer: I couldn't import my bank statements into KMyMoney2 | 06:18 |
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| Search4Lancer | nixternal: I have no intention of doing so, so, that's not really a problem | 06:18 |
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| nixternal | and I could export my statements to quicken or msmoney | 06:18 |
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| bobstro | no kidding | 06:18 |
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| nixternal | I might have to play with it some more | 06:18 |
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| Trollaxor | The SFPD found my hide out under the bridge. | 06:18 |
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| nixternal | thanks Trollaxor! have a good day/night | 06:18 |
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| apus | anyone want to help me get my sound card spdif output working | 06:19 |
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| se7en | ~/.bashrc apus | 06:19 |
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| Search4Lancer | I'd like to try out ClearCheckbook.com, but I have yet to find a way the site is keeping itself sustainable (it's completely free, and there are no ads or anything, just a donation button), so I don't know if I want to risk using it only for it to disappear in a few months | 06:19 |
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| intelikey | that was one of the friendliest trolls we've had in the las hour and a half.... | 06:19 |
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| reldruh | stdin: would it matter that I installed mythtv on my server? Because samba is the newest version, my smb.conf file is 3 lines and even though I can access the share using the smb:/ protocol (without having to put in a password) no matter what I try I can't get it to mount via fstab or manually | 06:19 |
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| nixternal | intelikey: hahaha | 06:19 |
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| nixternal | I love when I get yelled at for feeding them, but at times I enjoy it | 06:20 |
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| nixternal | reverse trollology | 06:20 |
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| intelikey | yeah | 06:20 |
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| stdin | reldruh: I don't think that would affect it, but I can't say foe sure | 06:20 |
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| apus | I uncomment the 3 lines in .bashrc that link to the bash_aliases file right? | 06:21 |
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| reldruh | stdin: could it be that the server is running dapper and my laptop is on feisty? | 06:21 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | Anyone know the earliest version of Kubuntu to include ndiswrapper? | 06:22 |
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| intelikey | apus for sound issue ? | 06:22 |
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| apus | intelikey: no for adding aliases to bash | 06:22 |
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| intelikey | you can add them dirrectly or if you have a system wide alias file you want to sourse you can do that. | 06:23 |
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| mark_ | BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g, does anyone know how to get it to work? | 06:23 |
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| stdin | reldruh: it _could_ be, I have seen some people having problems with the feisty version with older versions of samba | 06:23 |
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| apus | an alias can be more than one line? | 06:23 |
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| stdin | reldruh: you could try getting some help in #samba | 06:23 |
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| intelikey | apus example. alias ls='/bin/ls --color=auto' | 06:24 |
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| the_hammer | anyone here know kubuntu 7.04 beta good? | 06:24 |
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| ScottLij_ | is today release day? | 06:24 |
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| intelikey | apus you may want functions rather than aliases. but yes they both can | 06:24 |
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| reldruh | stdin: all right, I'll try it out. Thanks for your help | 06:24 |
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| apus | I want to use an alias called "fort" and have it do both "gfort file" and "chmod file" | 06:24 |
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| the_hammer | i borked up my colors so thought if i changed a theme it would bounce back to normal but no the theme changed and certain things are still borked | 06:24 |
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| apus | oh wait! I'm thinking of a bash file | 06:25 |
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| intelikey | apus try a function. fort () { gfort $* ;chmod 755 $* } | 06:25 |
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| RawSewage | official Relase Party channel is #ubuntu-release-party | 06:26 |
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| intelikey | example only ^ | 06:26 |
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| apus | intelikey: where should I use that, in what file | 06:27 |
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| intelikey | apus ~/.bashrc or any sourced runtime config | 06:27 |
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| hitmanWilly | does anybody know anything about this new modular xorg? is ubuntu planning on including it? | 06:27 |
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| intelikey | hitmanWilly already been using it for a year | 06:28 |
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| Kubuntu-Noob | what is that xorg? | 06:28 |
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| hitmanWilly | ok, seems completely transparent then | 06:28 |
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| intelikey | modular xorg | 06:28 |
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| apus | intelikey: is there anything I have to do to get changes to take effect | 06:28 |
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| formatter | is there flaccid..i want ask about kubuntu.. | 06:28 |
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| reldruh | /reldruh perks up about xorg | 06:29 |
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| flaccid | sorry | 06:29 |
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| intelikey | apus you can source the file . ~/.bashrc | 06:29 |
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| flaccid | formatter: sup | 06:29 |
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| the_hammer | ok i right click on task bar and configure panel click appearance and advanced options and tint colour | 06:30 |
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| the_hammer | and i think i touched custume colours | 06:30 |
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| apus | does anyone use joe anymore? | 06:30 |
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| intelikey | apus i mentioned functions because you can use variables in them but not in aliases. so multi-command aliases leave some to be desired. | 06:31 |
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| the_hammer | doing so i didnt change any colors where i wanted them changed | 06:31 |
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| intelikey | apus joe is good if you like vim | 06:31 |
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| the_hammer | it changed in other things tho like xchat and konversation and god knows what else | 06:31 |
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| oem_ | hotspot management | 06:31 |
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| formatter | flaccid : command for find my motorola sm56 modem.. | 06:31 |
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| the_hammer | i want it back to normal and theres no defult button | 06:31 |
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| reldruh | the_hammer: what colors are off? | 06:31 |
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| apus | intelikey: thanks, I am probably going to use a makefile for the fortran stuff | 06:32 |
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| the_hammer | i dunno | 06:32 |
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| flaccid | formatter: can't help you sorry. try google. | 06:32 |
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| intelikey | apus by far the best idea yes. | 06:32 |
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| the_hammer | i just want all defult back i changed themes thinking it would do the trick but no theme changed ya but my problem hasnt gone | 06:32 |
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| reldruh | the_hammer: you're trying to change something back to default but you don't know what's not at the default? | 06:32 |
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| hitmanWilly | formatter, lsmod? | 06:33 |
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| the_hammer | i back tracked my steps | 06:33 |
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| reldruh | the_hammer: the default style is polyester | 06:33 |
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| Endler | Most people prob just get familiar with vi/vim, because you can always count on it being on any linux/unix system you happen to find yourself on; even tiny distros in embedded devices. | 06:33 |
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| the_hammer | i right clicked on task bar | 06:33 |
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| the_hammer | and went to configure panel | 06:33 |
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| the_hammer | and all the way through to the colours | 06:33 |
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| reldruh | the_hammer: so it's your taskbar that isn't the default color? | 06:34 |
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| the_hammer | no its everything else BUT | 06:34 |
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| the_hammer | my colours here changed | 06:34 |
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| the_hammer | konversation | 06:35 |
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| intelikey | the_hammer you can reset all of kde and it's apps. with minimal loss by logging out, dropping to a console and doing rm -r ~/.kde* then switching back to ?dm and logging back in. | 06:35 |
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| the_hammer | superkaramba | 06:35 |
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| intelikey | the_hammer if that's greek to you then get a second openion before trying it. | 06:35 |
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| reldruh | the_hammer: if it's just your colors that are off, you can go to System Settings > Appearance > Colors and I think Plastik is the default. It sounds like that's what changed. It's the only thing I know of that will change all your colors. Do you think that would work intelikey? | 06:36 |
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| intelikey | reldruh he can try that first. | 06:36 |
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| the_hammer | ok ill try that and logout and in and brb | 06:36 |
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| intelikey | it should. reldruh but if he has changed themes and no joy, what i sujested is a full reset. | 06:38 |
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| reldruh | intelikey: wouldn't erasing ~/.kde get rid of things like contacts in KOrganizer and collections in Amarok? All settings everywhere? | 06:38 |
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| the_hammer | didnt work | 06:38 |
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| the_hammer | :( | 06:38 |
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| the_hammer | this is nutrs | 06:38 |
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| intelikey | reldruh i said "all of kde and it's apps." | 06:39 |
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| the_hammer | if i have to ill format and reinstall everything but man thats a pain in the arse over a simple colour prob | 06:39 |
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| reldruh | intelikey: true | 06:39 |
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| reldruh | the_hammer: I hate to make you do this, but you could tell me again what the problem is? I just want to make sure that I know what it is you're trying to fix | 06:40 |
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| the_hammer | my whole problem started because i didnt like the color of the task bar (all other colors were fine) | 06:40 |
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| reldruh | the_hammer: ok | 06:41 |
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| the_hammer | so i right clicked on taskbar | 06:41 |
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| the_hammer | configure panel | 06:41 |
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| Dr_willis | Egads! you Right Clicked! | 06:41 |
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| Dr_willis | :) | 06:41 |
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| the_hammer | apperance | 06:41 |
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| the_hammer | advanced options | 06:41 |
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| the_hammer | tint and then custumied | 06:41 |
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| jza873 | yo whats good ever one | 06:42 |
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| apus | how do I remove a dir with contents | 06:42 |
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| the_hammer | and i played with the colour and applied | 06:42 |
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| intelikey | the_hammer you don't. let me repost. (""<intelikey> the_hammer you can reset all of kde and it's apps. with minimal loss by logging out, dropping to a console and doing rm -r ~/.kde* then switching back to ?dm and logging back in. <intelikey> the_hammer if that's greek to you then get a second openion before trying it."") one can rm their home dir and make a new one.... just don't forget to own it. | 06:42 |
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| intelikey | apus rm -r | 06:42 |
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| the_hammer | everything changed colour BUT what i wanted changed | 06:42 |
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| Dr_willis | that tinting for me - gave the backgroind of the panel a tinted color/semi transparent | 06:43 |
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| nobody_ | ubuntu suckx | 06:43 |
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| the_hammer | lol | 06:43 |
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| orient2000 | tru kubuntu | 06:43 |
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| Dr_willis | nobody_, so does your... oh wait.. i better not start this... | 06:43 |
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| intelikey | nobody_ it sure does.... | 06:43 |
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| jza873 | hay any one know a good dvd authoring program so i can make a dvd with menus and can convert any file like .ogm | 06:44 |
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| apus | Could not write to file /mount/data2/.Trash-1000/info/test.f90.trashinfo.?? | 06:44 |
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| reldruh | the_hammer: I do'nt know what to tell you. I just played with it and it seems to be working fine. All my colors are still the same except for the panel | 06:44 |
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| the_hammer | what kubuntu u got? | 06:44 |
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| reldruh | the_hammer: did you enable transparency? | 06:44 |
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| the_hammer | nope | 06:44 |
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| jza873 | hay i had that issues b4 with the colior problems | 06:44 |
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| orient2000 | 6.10 | 06:45 |
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| reldruh | the_hammer: I just updated to feisty but I've done this with edgy and haven't had any problems | 06:45 |
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| the_hammer | 7.04 feighsty here | 06:45 |
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| jza873 | after i installed afterstep all my colors got screwed up | 06:45 |
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| intelikey | beryl by any chance ? | 06:51 |
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| the_hammer | i ahve that yes and kbfx | 06:51 |
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| jza873 | and buttons like on google i coulkdnt read teh font teh colors were the same as teh button | 06:51 |
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| the_hammer | and it was a pain to set it up the way i have it | 06:51 |
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| the_hammer | not running beyrl atm tho | 06:51 |
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| jza873 | to fix the color issue i had i just reinstalled | 06:51 |
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| orient2000 | jza873: you got dell? | 06:51 |
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| jza873 | hell no dell got issues with linux drivers | 06:51 |
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| the_hammer | lmao | 06:51 |
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| Gtwy | http://gtwy.net/stay_indoors.txt | 06:51 |
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| jza873 | thats y they are stalling on the release of linux on there computers | 06:51 |
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| the_hammer | i set a friend up with linux on a dell i can confirm the issues part | 06:51 |
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| orient2000 | what driver? | 06:51 |
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| jza873 | they will be issuing linux soon but as soon as they can find the drivers | 06:51 |
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| the_hammer | to many to count | 06:51 |
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| jza873 | yea | 06:51 |
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| jza873 | and i installed edgy on my bros computer and his was a dell and teh colors sucked right off the bat | 06:51 |
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| the_hammer | well hate to do all this crap but im a gonna start from scratch and NEVER touch colours again through kmenu thingy | 06:51 |
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| intelikey | hahaha | 06:51 |
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| the_hammer | bb when ever | 06:51 |
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| reldruh | the_hammer: I don't have any idea what caused your color problem. And I don't know why the Colors menu in System settings didn't fix it. Not related, I have a dell and the only driver issues I've had have been graphics (nvidia and easy to solve) and wireless (broadcom and I'm still working on it. It's not fixed in feisty) | 06:51 |
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| jza873 | and dont install afterstep | 06:51 |
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| jza873 | too late | 06:51 |
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| jza873 | hay any one know a good dvd authoring program so i can make a dvd with menus and can convert any file like .ogm | 06:51 |
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| codepoet | Hello, I've finally migrated from windows to ubuntu (feisty + beryl) - but my monitor has a horrible colour curve. I've tried nvidia-settings to correct brightness/contrast/gamma, but the settings dont seem to persist after a reboot. Is there something I can do? | 06:51 |
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| intelikey | can anyone tell me if that meant reload ? "<the_hammer> well hate to do all this crap but im a gonna start from scratch..." | 06:51 |
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| DaSkreech | Jucato: Ha ha | 06:51 |
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| Jucato | DaSkreech: hm?? | 06:51 |
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| ferret_0568 | Gee, atleast Dell wants to put Linux on their computers and test Linux on them well, too! | 06:51 |
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| agracey | codepoet: use the auto on the maoniter itself | 06:51 |
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| DaSkreech | A number of users ( presumably Kubuntu users ) cited the poor quality of the Adept package manager as a reason for using the apt-get package management tool instead. | 06:51 |
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| DaSkreech | ferret_0568: Whooptiedo | 06:51 |
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| codepoet | agracey: It's not a monitor issue, its the ouput of the graphics card | 06:51 |
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| codepoet | gray/white look the same :p | 06:51 |
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| ferret_0568 | My NVIDIA card in my Dell laptop work fine | 06:51 |
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| agracey | i was thinking it could be a combination of the two | 06:51 |
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| formatter | codepoet : my modem isn't detected in my notebook.. | 06:52 |
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| codepoet | heh same, but it didn't work ;\ | 06:52 |
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| codepoet | formatter: buy another notebook :P | 06:52 |
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| Jucato | DaSkreech: where's that from? | 06:52 |
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| DaSkreech | Jucato: Konsole | 06:52 |
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| intelikey | winmodems yuch | 06:52 |
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| agracey | you have updated everything right? | 06:52 |
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| === DaSkreech is watching Princess Gravity | Gamer Powered Radio - Red Hot Chili Peppers - Give It Away [Kaffeine] |
| Jucato | hm... I think a fair number of users use aptitude as well :) | 06:53 |
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| intelikey | !modem | formatter | 06:53 |
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| ubotu | formatter: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto | 06:53 |
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| formatter | notepoet : so, there no other way.. | 06:53 |
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| intelikey | formatter yes there are other ways. | 06:53 |
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| agracey | you have updated everything right? codepoet | 06:53 |
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| codepoet | formatter: I'm just a beginner, I spent 3 days trying to get my ATi X700 card to work with feisty + beryl, didn't get much help and couldnt get it done - so I pulled it out and bought a nVidia based card ;p | 06:54 |
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| codepoet | agracey: yep | 06:54 |
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| codepoet | at least, I think I did - what did you mean by update? | 06:56 |
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| DaSkreech | Jucato: The konsole survey results | 06:56 |
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| agracey | codepoet: and you have adjusted the gamma with system settings | 06:56 |
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| codepoet | where do I find the system settings for gamma? | 06:56 |
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| intelikey | codepoet updated generally means sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 06:57 |
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| codepoet | yep i'm fully up to date in that respect :D | 06:57 |
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| Jucato | codepoet: System Settings -> Monitor and Display -> Color & Gamma tab | 06:57 |
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| codepoet | Jucato: I don't appear to have the menu layout you describe, or any options that resemble "monitor and display" | 06:58 |
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| codepoet | just screen resolution | 06:59 |
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| codepoet | is there a command I can enter manually? | 06:59 |
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| Jucato | codepoet: are you sure you are running the System Settings app? | 06:59 |
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| Jucato | codepoet: try Alt+F2, and the command "displayconfig" | 06:59 |
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| intelikey | Jucato what's the cli name of that ? | 07:00 |
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| intelikey | k | 07:00 |
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| Jucato | intelikey: of which one? | 07:00 |
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| yonkeltron | is there a way to setup encrypted partitions on install? debian can do it... | 07:00 |
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| Jucato | System Settings = systemsettings | 07:00 |
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| intelikey | Jucato sorry slight lag. | 07:00 |
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| Jucato | Monitor and Display module = displayconfig | 07:00 |
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| orient2000 | I was trying to install oryginal windows in dell 10 years ago. modem, audio and video card was as one. I wonde whot they are doing now. who buys dell I ask now? | 07:00 |
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| codepoet | Jucato: I don't have that, I tried installing it just then, it says it's called "kde-guidance", but i'm running gnome | 07:01 |
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| codepoet | will it still work? | 07:01 |
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| Jucato | codepoet: ah I didn't know... | 07:01 |
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| codepoet | one way to find out I spose ;p | 07:01 |
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| === Jucato doesn't know where it is in GNOME |
| Jucato | you might want to ask in #ubuntu | 07:01 |
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| Jucato | this is the channel for Kubuntu, which uses KDE | 07:01 |
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| hitmanWilly | well Dell should be getting more linux compatible soon, hopefully | 07:01 |
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| intelikey | GNOME ! hang him. | 07:02 |
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| intelikey | :) | 07:02 |
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| codepoet | oh... shit, sorry heh - It just autojoined after I installed Konversation | 07:02 |
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| hitmanWilly | heretic!! | 07:02 |
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| codepoet | intelikey: Can I use beryl with KDE? | 07:02 |
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| hitmanWilly | :) | 07:02 |
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| Jucato | codepoet: yes | 07:02 |
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| intelikey | codepoet you can | 07:02 |
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| hitmanWilly | using it right now | 07:02 |
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| intelikey | !beryl | codepoet | 07:02 |
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| ubotu | codepoet: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects | 07:02 |
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| codepoet | I had no idea lol, so can i just get rid of gdm, and install kdm - or is it not as easy as that? | 07:03 |
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| agracey | ok so don't use the monitor test | 07:03 |
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| hitmanWilly | codepoet, kubuntu-desktop should get you everything you need | 07:03 |
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| intelikey | codepoet i wouldn't get rid of gdm for kdm but you probably want to install kde | 07:03 |
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| underdog5004 | codepoet, unless you've got a bunch of data/personalizations, it'll be easier to clean install kubuntu, IMHO | 07:03 |
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| Jucato | codepoet: to explain intelikey's statement, gdm/kdm are the Display Managers, they handle the login screen and sessions. | 07:04 |
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| Jucato | gdm is not GNOME itself, nor is kdm KDE itself. | 07:04 |
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| Jucato | DaSkreech: easy on the /media :) | 07:05 |
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| intelikey | hitmanWilly it's true that multiple *buntu-desktop's are not supposed to cause issues. but generally i sujest install the other meta packages gnome kde .... | 07:05 |
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| formatter | codepoet : where i want get kubuntu software included with lib that needed | 07:05 |
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| Endler | You still can't shutdown gnome directly when using KDM, can you? You have to logout back the the KDM menu, and shutdown from there last I used it. | 07:05 |
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| DaSkreech | Jucato: Love this song :) | 07:05 |
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| agracey | does anybody know when ubuntustudio is coming out | 07:05 |
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| DaSkreech | Endler: Eh? | 07:05 |
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| Jucato | agracey: you'd have to ask the ubuntustudio guys | 07:05 |
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| leafw | any clues why since yesterday feisty doesn't load the flgrx driver? No accel display anymore | 07:05 |
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| DaSkreech | agracey: When it's 3 months from being finished :) | 07:05 |
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| codepoet | fair enough - so going by that, what would you recommend I do? Clean install of kubuntu (ie: erase/start over) or optionB? | 07:05 |
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| hitmanWilly | intelikey, that works too, just never had a problem with multiple -desktops myself | 07:05 |
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| Jucato | codepoet: it really depends if you want/like to use KDE over GNOME. | 07:06 |
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| intelikey | hitmanWilly defaults get over written when you install another *buntu-desktop like i said 'it's not supposed to cause issues' | 07:06 |
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| hitmanWilly | intelikey, got it | 07:06 |
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| codepoet | Jucato: In your oppinion, Is it that much "better" / worth the effort? | 07:06 |
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| Endler | When I've had both gnome and KDE installed before, and used KDM as the login manager, I'd only get the logout option in gnome, not the shutdown option, unless I changed to GDM, then I could log out directly from either. | 07:07 |
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| Jucato | codepoet: it's a personal thing. you should decided yourself. (of course, being a KDE user, I'd be biased and say using KDE is worth it :P ) | 07:07 |
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| pollyo | I can not seem to install f-prot | 07:08 |
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| intelikey | codepoet gnome seems smoother kde seems a lot more flexable. depends on what you want. i personally use blackbox rather than either. | 07:08 |
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| hitmanWilly | codepoet, there's people who swear by every different desktop/wm out there | 07:08 |
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| pollyo | It doesn't like my system. | 07:08 |
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| pollyo | intelikey: I'm impressed with gnome. | 07:08 |
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| intelikey | codepoet if you like to right click things to configure them. by all means install kde. | 07:08 |
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| codepoet | haha, I dunno man. It took me ages (plus a new graphics card!) to get to this point, and I got rid of my windows installation for it. I'm afraid of spending another day trying to get kubuntu up to this point | 07:08 |
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| pollyo | intelikey: Though I like some of the bells and whistles that kde has. | 07:08 |
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| intelikey | pollyo like i said. i use blackbox (when i start a gui) | 07:09 |
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| hitmanWilly | codepoet, personally, i like kde with fluxbox as a close second | 07:09 |
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| Jucato | codepoet: then go with what you have for now and just decide later | 07:09 |
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| codepoet | lol so many choices it seems, maybe i'll wait till I get used to the "feel" of linux before trying different display managers | 07:10 |
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| === Jucato doesn't swear by KDE...is open to other things |
| codepoet | ...or whatever they're called | 07:10 |
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| intelikey | codepoet just use xfce4 :) | 07:10 |
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| intelikey | lol | 07:10 |
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| Jucato | codepoet: you're confusing display managers with desktop environments :) | 07:10 |
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| underdog5004 | imo, the "feel" of linux is largely dependant on the display manager | 07:10 |
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| codepoet | Jucato: I just used the wrong word heh | 07:10 |
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| DaSkreech | Jucato: I swear at KDE :) | 07:10 |
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| Jucato | DaSkreech: I swore at GNOME months ago :) | 07:10 |
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| === intelikey generally swares at kde |
| === Jucato goes take a nap |
| underdog5004 | imo, the "feel" of linux is largely dependant on the desktop environment | 07:11 |
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| Jucato | intelikey: I thought you swear at the kernel? :D | 07:11 |
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| ferret_0568 | Ah, you need to use Gaim instead of Kopete, and BasKet | 07:11 |
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| DaSkreech | Jucato: I normally can't breathe after shouting at Gnome | 07:11 |
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| DaSkreech | underdog5004: really? | 07:11 |
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| hitmanWilly | same here | 07:11 |
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| intelikey | Jucato actually i try to "sware not at all..." | 07:11 |
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| DaSkreech | underdog5004: and if you don't run a desktop? | 07:11 |
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| === Jucato is glad he doesn't have AIM or ICQ... makes Kopete useful :) |
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| underdog5004 | DaSkreech, yep | 07:11 |
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| DaSkreech | Jucato: Hmm? | 07:12 |
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| codepoet | unrelated question, are there no Ops in this channel? This is my first time using Konversation (used to mIRC) - everyone has the same symbol beside their nick | 07:12 |
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| underdog5004 | DaSkreech, I use screen in terminals, for a rudimentary window manager/environment | 07:12 |
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| DaSkreech | codepoet: Shhhhh | 07:12 |
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| intelikey | Jucato if you leave i'm going too. these folks will have to depend on the hit man. | 07:12 |
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| Jucato | DaSkreech: ferret_0568's issues with Kopete seem to be AIM-related, if not Kubuntu-specific | 07:12 |
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| DaSkreech | they are watching | 07:12 |
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| DaSkreech | >_> | 07:12 |
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| DaSkreech | <_< | 07:12 |
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| codepoet | lol | 07:12 |
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| DaSkreech | Jucato: Ah yeah I nearly gave up on it till they fixed it | 07:13 |
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| DaSkreech | I mostly use ICQ | 07:13 |
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| underdog5004 | DaSkreech, although I do like the terminal, I don't know too much yet. | 07:13 |
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| Jucato | codepoet: what symbols? you can check what those symbols mean in Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Nicklist Themes and hover your mouse over the symbols | 07:13 |
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| DaSkreech | underdog5004: So what would you call the "feel" ? | 07:13 |
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| DaSkreech | Jucato: Probably the default grey square | 07:14 |
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| underdog5004 | DaSkreech, for me, it would be the ease-of-use, although feature play a role as well... | 07:14 |
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| codepoet | hah ok so everyones a "normal user" then (square + red) | 07:14 |
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| DaSkreech | underdog5004: Oh then yes :) GUI's help | 07:14 |
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| Jucato | codepoet: you'd probably want to use the Square Theme in that list... gives you more descriptive symbols | 07:15 |
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| Jucato | (O, A, V, etc) | 07:15 |
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| underdog5004 | for instance, my first experience with linux was SuSE 10.0, which used KDE. The usability just about killed me...I loved it. GNOME just doesn't compare, for me | 07:15 |
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| intelikey | codepoet ops don't stay oped in here... they just go +o to ban ju and back to -o | 07:15 |
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| hitmanWilly | codepoet, normally the ops on this channel don't go to op status unless they need to do something, well, op like :) | 07:15 |
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| codepoet | Jucato: Got it, thanks for that! now everyone's a grey box ;p | 07:15 |
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| codepoet | hah nice, undercover then | 07:16 |
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| pollyo | underdog5004: I'm somewhat new to this stuff can you explain what usability is missing as you see it? | 07:16 |
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| Jucato | DaSkreech: seems like he was using the Default Theme (4 boxes w/ different colors) since he installed Konversation on Ubuntu | 07:16 |
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| codepoet | yup, that was it | 07:17 |
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| intelikey | is it the ipv6 of the irc world ? | 07:17 |
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| Jucato | intelikey: it's teh ipv6 of the interface world | 07:17 |
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| Jucato | the* | 07:17 |
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| underdog5004 | pollyo, sorry, I can't really, since I don't have a GNOME environment in front of me. sorry! | 07:17 |
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| underdog5004 | Jucato, I suspect usability is largely determined by the user | 07:18 |
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| intelikey | Jucato heh looked more authentic uncorrected lol | 07:18 |
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| ferret_0568 | How do u know my Kopete issues are mostly AIM related? | 07:18 |
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| Jucato | ferret_0568: you said so yesterday | 07:18 |
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| Jucato | :) | 07:18 |
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| intelikey | why do we type teh anyway. that's the dumbest typo, and almost everyone does it at some point ??? | 07:19 |
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| Jucato | it's teh l33t :) | 07:19 |
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| hitmanWilly | intelikey, so is pwn | 07:19 |
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| intelikey | yeah i know. like i said "dumbest typo" | 07:19 |
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| mackyman | morning everyone! | 07:19 |
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| ferret_0568 | Morning! | 07:20 |
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| Jucato | play nice everyone :D | 07:20 |
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| underdog5004 | adios, Jucato | 07:20 |
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| intelikey | oh well. jucato is leaving. hitmanWilly it's all yours. | 07:20 |
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| hitmanWilly | i guarantee "pwnage" started as a typo somewhere | 07:20 |
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| pollyo | So gaim is switching over to pidgin. | 07:20 |
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| intelikey | i'm left | 07:20 |
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| hitmanWilly | intelikey, ok, take care | 07:20 |
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| intelikey | i mean i'm went. | 07:20 |
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| mackyman | sleep well Jucato | 07:20 |
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| intelikey | ok. you too. | 07:21 |
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| crazy_penguin | Good morning! | 07:21 |
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| dsmith | hmmm hibernation dont work | 07:21 |
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| dsmith | ooh well | 07:21 |
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| hitmanWilly | dsmith, do you have acpi enabled? | 07:21 |
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| dsmith | not sure | 07:22 |
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| dsmith | cmd? | 07:22 |
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| hitmanWilly | dsmith lsmod | grep acpi | 07:23 |
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| dsmith | dsmith@dsmith-laptop:~$ acpi -v | 07:24 |
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| dsmith | acpi 0.09 | 07:24 |
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| pollyo | Do the different colors in the list of names mean anything? | 07:24 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: nope | 07:24 |
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| dsmith | sony_acpi 6412 0 | 07:24 |
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| Jucato | oh in the nicklist? | 07:24 |
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| dsmith | pcc_acpi 14080 0 | 07:24 |
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| dsmith | dev_acpi 12292 0 | 07:24 |
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| dsmith | asus_acpi 17688 0 | 07:24 |
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| Jucato | !paste | dsmith | 07:24 |
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| ubotu | dsmith: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) | 07:24 |
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| hitmanWilly | dsmith, sounds like its loaded, hmmm | 07:24 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: Yes. | 07:24 |
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| hitmanWilly | dsmith, might be a mobo compatibility issue | 07:24 |
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| nixternal | !Feisty | 07:24 |
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| ubotu | The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) | 07:24 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: hm... I think one stands for regular/normal/active users, while the faded color stands for /away users | 07:25 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: I noticed when I start in KDE they are the same color and in Gnome they have different colors. | 07:25 |
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| dsmith | im not too worried about it | 07:25 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: that depends on the IRC client | 07:25 |
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| dsmith | i will try again later | 07:25 |
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| dsmith | it shutsdown and all | 07:25 |
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| DaSkreech | nixternal: getting ready to change it? :) | 07:25 |
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| dsmith | but when I come back online | 07:25 |
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| dsmith | it starst and hangs | 07:25 |
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| dsmith | brb | 07:25 |
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| nixternal | muhehehe | 07:25 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: Same program Gaim. Is it just a front end for another program? | 07:25 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: GAIM on KDE and GAIM on GNOME? just the same. | 07:26 |
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| hitmanWilly | pollyo, no, Gaim is Gaim | 07:26 |
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| hitmanWilly | pollyo, afaik | 07:26 |
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| pollyo | I start Gaim in KDE and no colors for the list of people in room. When I start Gaim in Gnome I get a list of colors for the names int he room. | 07:27 |
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| codepoet | Jucato: I think I found the solution, apparently if I run 'nvidia-settings -l' instead of just 'nvidia-settings', it'll load the saved settings and apply them - so I just gotta find a way to autorun that command on each logon | 07:27 |
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| hitmanWilly | codepoet, kde? | 07:27 |
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| Jucato | codepoet: hm.. that shouldn't be happening though... | 07:27 |
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| hitmanWilly | codepoet, oh, wait, never mind... | 07:27 |
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| Jucato | anyway... I'm off | 07:27 |
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| codepoet | heh np, thanks | 07:28 |
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| codepoet | gonna try something, bbl | 07:29 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | Guys, I compiled somehting from source (amsn) | 07:30 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | How do i uninstall it? =/ | 07:30 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | (I used make install) | 07:30 |
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| hitmanWilly | Rictoo|SLP, try make clean | 07:30 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | That's enough? =/ | 07:31 |
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| DaSkreech | I see you | 07:31 |
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| hitmanWilly | Rictoo|SLP, iirc, that should remove it | 07:31 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | rictoo@rictoo-desktop:~/Desktop/aMSNp/msn$ make clean | 07:31 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | make: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. | 07:31 |
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| DaSkreech | Rictoo|SLP: make uninstall | 07:31 |
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| Tm_T | Rictoo|SLP: "sudo make uninstall" :-p | 07:31 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop. | 07:32 |
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| Tm_T | awww | 07:32 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | =/ | 07:32 |
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| DaSkreech | DShepherd: I see you | 07:32 |
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| DShepherd | sudo make && sudo make uninstall? | 07:32 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | =/ | 07:32 |
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| hitmanWilly | Rictoo|SLP, that means you probably have to remove it manually | 07:32 |
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| DaSkreech | Rictoo|SLP: next time use apt-get ? | 07:32 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | hitmanWilly: How? :OOOOOO | 07:32 |
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| DaSkreech | Rictoo|SLP: did you specify an flags when you did configure ? | 07:33 |
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| hitmanWilly | Rictoo|SLP, find out where it put the files and rm them is the only way i know of | 07:33 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | :( | 07:33 |
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| DShepherd | DaSkreech, have you tried sudo make && sudo make uninstall? | 07:34 |
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| DaSkreech | DShepherd: Wrong yout | 07:34 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | why SUDO make? | 07:34 |
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| DShepherd | make , sudo make... watever works | 07:35 |
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| hitmanWilly | Rictoo|SLP, sudo's not really required for just a make | 07:35 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | wait | 07:37 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | make clean should completely uninstall it? | 07:37 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | I don't think so... | 07:37 |
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| hitmanWilly | Rictoo|SLP, sorry, that wipes the compiled files from the src directory | 07:37 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | yeah | 07:38 |
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| hitmanWilly | Rictoo|SLP, haven't compiled anything in a while | 07:38 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | Oh =p | 07:38 |
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| hitmanWilly | Rictoo|SLP, and its kinda late here | 07:38 |
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| hitmanWilly | :) | 07:38 |
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| DaSkreech | Rictoo|SLP: have you tried DShepherd's suggestion | 07:42 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | yeah | 07:42 |
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| DaSkreech | DShepherd: #ubuntu-release-party | 07:42 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | there is no maek uninstal | 07:42 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | oh well, im doing it manually =p | 07:42 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | brb | 07:42 |
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| DShepherd | DaSkreech, already there.. | 07:42 |
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| DaSkreech | How many nicks? | 07:42 |
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| DShepherd | 97 at the moment | 07:43 |
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| DShepherd | 98 | 07:43 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | done | 07:44 |
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| Rictoo|SLP | :D | 07:44 |
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| the_hammer | back to the starting line eh | 07:48 |
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| the_hammer | life is grand isnt it? | 07:48 |
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| Melchiorre | the_hammer: sure is... | 07:49 |
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| DaSkreech | Rictoo|SLP: Now Sudo apt-get install amsn :) | 07:49 |
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| the_hammer | just had to reinstall kubuntu 7.04 | 07:49 |
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| the_hammer | sucks heh all that cuz i screwed my colors up | 07:49 |
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| Melchiorre | the_hammer: couldn't you just reset them? | 07:50 |
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| the_hammer | tried for an hour | 07:50 |
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| the_hammer | thought changing themes would cure it all but of course not | 07:51 |
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| ferret_0568 | Uh, you could have deleted some files starting with a dot in your home directory (a folder in windows is a directory in Linux) | 07:51 |
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| Melchiorre | the_hammer: didn't the "default" button work either? | 07:51 |
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| apus | how do I empty the recycler folder of a mounte drive | 07:53 |
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| the_hammer | nope i tried everything even changed themes | 07:56 |
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| pollyo | Is there an alternate port for webservers? | 07:57 |
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| Melchiorre | pollyo: there's the secure port | 07:59 |
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| Melchiorre | although you can really use any port you want | 07:59 |
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| Melchiorre | you just type http://url:port/ and it'll use any port | 08:00 |
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| pollyo | Melchiorre: Does the webbrowser simply default to port 80 or will it try an alternate port if that is not open? | 08:01 |
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| Melchiorre | I think it just defaults to port 80 | 08:01 |
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| Melchiorre | or 441(?) if it's an https:// | 08:02 |
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| Melchiorre | maybe it's 445... | 08:02 |
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| Melchiorre | :S | 08:02 |
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| pipboy_ | hi when will be the feisty fawn released? it should be already released... is there any delay? | 08:03 |
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| ScottK | It just tries 80 unless you tell it differeent | 08:03 |
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| Cugel | pipboy: I was wondering about that too, and now that Europe is waking up the questions will start flowing in :-) | 08:03 |
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| pipboy_ | :) | 08:04 |
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| Cugel | I guess there was a delay. There always is. | 08:04 |
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| BaudThief | is there a way to put "shortcut icons" to mounted drives on the desktop? | 08:04 |
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| Cugel | baud: yes, just create a link to the drive there. | 08:04 |
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| Cugel | So, a link to /media/ipod for example. | 08:04 |
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| Melchiorre | BaudThief: do you mean mounted partitions or external drives? | 08:05 |
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| Melchiorre | because external drives, like ipods usually put a shortcut automatically... | 08:05 |
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| Cugel | True, that. | 08:06 |
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| BaudThief | Melchiorre: I added a couple of NTFS drives into fstab, they're mounted but no icons appeared on my desktop (works through the shell though) | 08:06 |
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| ScottK | pipboy_: If you want Feisty, just dist upgrade. What's in the repos is what they're spinning the ISOs with. | 08:06 |
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| Melchiorre | BaudThief: cool. in that case do what Cugel said.. :-) | 08:06 |
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| BaudThief | oh I should mention this is gnome and not kde, but this channel seems so much friendlier ;\ | 08:06 |
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| ScottK | BaudThief: How you'd do it is different between KDE and Gnome. | 08:07 |
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| ScottK | Maybe apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and ask again ;-) | 08:07 |
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| Melchiorre | ScottK: HAHAHA | 08:08 |
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| Melchiorre | BaudThief: you should be able to right click just drag the icon in nautilus to your desktop and select create shortcut, but really I have no idea... | 08:08 |
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| nixternal | hahahahah! that rocks | 08:09 |
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| nixternal | BaudThief: you are definitely a classic with that line man!! my new hero! | 08:09 |
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| Ahmuck | how do i reset root password ? | 08:10 |
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| nixternal | reset it or disable it? | 08:10 |
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| Melchiorre | Ahmuck: are you a sudoer? if so, just change your own password ;-) | 08:10 |
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| nixternal | ^^ | 08:10 |
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| nixternal | to reset | 08:10 |
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| Ahmuck | ya, well, i forgot | 08:10 |
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| ScottLij_ | !ssh | 08:11 |
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| ubotu | SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ | 08:11 |
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| Ahmuck | i need to reset it | 08:11 |
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| Ahmuck | iirc, you can boot from cd and do it | 08:11 |
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| Melchiorre | Ahmuck: boot in recovery mode (without a cd) and it'll put you right into a root console... | 08:12 |
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| pollyo | would appache2 show up if I typed top -u root | 08:13 |
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| tinyx | hey sexy peoples. | 08:13 |
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| tinyx | Is it ok to just chat here, or is there another channel for that? | 08:14 |
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| underdog5004 | pollyo, I don't think so...unless you installed it while logged in as root | 08:14 |
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| pollyo | underdog5004: Who does it run as? | 08:14 |
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| underdog5004 | pollyo, h/o, lemme check my server | 08:14 |
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| Ahmuck | Melchiorre: thx | 08:16 |
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| underdog5004 | pollyo, I did top | grep apache2, and it looks like www-data is the user that started the process... | 08:16 |
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| underdog5004 | www-data isn't a persons profile, just something to make sure the process stays alive. | 08:17 |
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| pollyo | underdog5004: Ok Thank you. | 08:17 |
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| underdog5004 | pollyo, np | 08:17 |
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| underdog5004 | so...anyone tried out jinzora? I really like it. It's a program used to stream media | 08:18 |
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| underdog5004 | anyone know anything about converting bin/cue files into avi without burning them to disk and re-ripping? | 08:21 |
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| pollyo | What packages do you need to start apache2? | 08:22 |
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| pollyo | I keep getting a fail when I go to start it. | 08:22 |
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| pollyo | Unpacking apache2 (from .../apache2_2.2.3-3.2build1_all.deb) | 08:22 |
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| pollyo | Do I need anything more? | 08:22 |
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| pollyo | sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start | 08:23 |
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| pollyo | [fail] | 08:23 |
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| reldruh | if I have a broadcom wireless card, is ndiswrapper or the firmware-cutter the preferred method of getting it to work? | 08:23 |
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| Melchiorre | pollyo: do you have apache2-common installed? | 08:24 |
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| Melchiorre | pollyo: or apache2.2-common in your case... | 08:24 |
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| underdog5004 | pollyo, are you following a guide or just your gut? | 08:24 |
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| pollyo | underdog5004: I installed it on my one machine no problems and no guides. I'm working on my uncles computer right now. Not at the keyboard. | 08:26 |
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| pollyo | underdog5004: I should say remote. | 08:27 |
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| underdog5004 | pollyo, lol, remember not to do sudo ifdown eth0 | 08:27 |
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| underdog5004 | I did that once...only once | 08:27 |
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| Melchiorre | reldruh: I don't know anything about the firmware cutter, but I've used ndiswrapper and didn't have many problems with it... | 08:27 |
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| DShepherd | bedtime for me DaSkreech . I pet the fawn in the morning chao! | 08:28 |
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| pollyo | underdog5004: Is there a log file that would tell me why it failed? | 08:28 |
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| reldruh | Melchiorre: when I use ndiswrapper and tell the wireless to be on at boot I have massive problems. Did you encounter and solve those by any chance? Not everything will load, especially samba shares and it throws off the entire boot process. | 08:28 |
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| underdog5004 | pollyo, what failed? the install of apache? | 08:29 |
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| pollyo | Found it. | 08:29 |
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| pollyo | underdog5004: No the starting of it. Found the log file though. | 08:29 |
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| Melchiorre | pollyo: try running 'sudo apt-get install apache2.2' and see if it finds any more packages that need installing | 08:29 |
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| underdog5004 | cool | 08:29 |
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| pollyo | No idea what it means though... | 08:30 |
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| underdog5004 | anyone know when feisty is released? I know it's tomorrow, but what time? I wanna be one of the first seeders, and I need the torrent... | 08:30 |
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| pollyo | preconfiguration failed | 08:30 |
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| underdog5004 | pollyo, look into the config file for apache | 08:30 |
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| underdog5004 | there may be something in there... | 08:30 |
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| pollyo | Couldn't create a Thread Safe Pollset | 08:30 |
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| underdog5004 | oh | 08:30 |
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| underdog5004 | lol, no idea, sorry | 08:30 |
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| pollyo | underdog5004: I'll do a little searching on it. | 08:30 |
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| underdog5004 | I'm going to go pee right now...brb | 08:31 |
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| Melchiorre | reldruh: I always thought those problems were caused by KDE/Ubuntu not the drivers... It seemed to connect at startup when I used the 'Network Settings' configuration in system settings... | 08:31 |
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| reldruh | Melchiorre: i know it's not Kubuntu, a different card in the same model of laptop works perfectly (it's an intel card). I guess I'll try ndiswrapper again | 08:32 |
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| underdog5004 | k, I'm back | 08:32 |
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| Melchiorre | reldruh: good luck! | 08:33 |
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| reldruh | Melchiorre: thanks :-) | 08:33 |
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| dhq | !inetd | 08:34 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 08:34 |
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| harmental | i have been using feisty for some time now..... | 08:36 |
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| harmental | how can i upgrade to the 'clean' release? | 08:36 |
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| ScottK | harmental: If you have updated from the repositories, then you have it. | 08:37 |
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| underdog5004 | anyone know when feisty is released? I know it's tomorrow, but what time? I wanna be one of the first seeders, and I need the torrent... | 08:38 |
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| harmental | ScottK: all my repos still say 'edgy'...... | 08:39 |
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| harmental | shall i change that? | 08:39 |
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| ScottK | How did you install Feisty? | 08:39 |
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| Melchiorre | underdog5004: it was supposed to be released today, and I don't think anyone knows exactly when... | 08:40 |
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| arthur | aloha | 08:40 |
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| harmental | i add deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse | 08:41 |
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| underdog5004 | Melchiorre, bummer...ok | 08:41 |
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| ScottK | That's still Edgy. I thought you said Feisty? | 08:41 |
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| dettoaltrimenti | is there an RSS reader for the terminal? | 08:41 |
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| arthur | anyone know when feisty is coming | 08:42 |
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| arthur | I need to got o sleep and I want to upgrade over night | 08:42 |
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| harmental | thats was the howto instructions to test feisty.... | 08:42 |
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| arthur | it's 2:20am here | 08:42 |
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| ScottK | You can dist upgrade now. What's in the repos is what they are spinning the ISOs for | 08:42 |
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| ScottK | harmental: Can you pastebin your sources.list for me? | 08:42 |
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| Melchiorre | dettoaltrimenti: raggle | 08:42 |
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| ScottK | !pastebin | 08:43 |
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| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) | 08:43 |
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| harmental | ScottK: yeap.....wait a sec.... | 08:43 |
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| harmental | ScottK: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/447662 | 08:45 |
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| ScottK | and if you type less /etc/lsb-release in a Konsole, does it say Edgy or Feisty? | 08:46 |
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| harmental | Ubuntu 7.04 feisty (development branch) | 08:47 |
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| pacman | anyone know anything about being able to interface my mp3 player with kubuntu? | 08:47 |
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| ScottK | harmental: OK. | 08:48 |
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| arthur | pacman, amarok usually recognizes all mp3 players | 08:48 |
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| pacman | I'm unable to add/delete files from the mp3 player now | 08:49 |
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| pacman | I used to be able to, then it stopped allowing me...but the permissions are set up correct | 08:49 |
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| ScottK | harmental: What I'd do in your situation is edit sources.list and change every place in the Ubuntu repositories that it says edgy with feisty, comment out the non-ubuntu repositories, and then apt-get update and aptitude dist-upgreade | 08:49 |
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| ScottK | harmental: type there... | 08:49 |
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| psb154 | pacman you haven't accidentally put the lock on your mp3 player by any chance :-) | 08:50 |
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| pacman | no, I checked that | 08:50 |
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| harmental | ScottK: ok...ill try that.... | 08:50 |
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| ScottK | harmental: The last should be aptitude dist-upgrade | 08:50 |
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| pollyo | I suppose there is no way around an isp blocking a port. | 08:50 |
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| underdog5004 | pollyo, tunneling | 08:51 |
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| underdog5004 | basically, route traffic that's going through one port into another | 08:51 |
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| Melchiorre | pacman: will files not delete in konqueror or Amarok? | 08:51 |
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| underdog5004 | I'm not sure if tunneling is the right word | 08:51 |
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| pacman | I haven't tried it in Amarok | 08:52 |
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| pollyo | underdog5004: tunneling? | 08:52 |
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| reldruh | out of curiosity, has anybody here heard anything substantial about better broadcom wireless support in kernel 2.6.21? | 08:52 |
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| pacman | but it's not working well with konqueror anymore | 08:52 |
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| underdog5004 | yeah...not quite sure... | 08:52 |
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| pollyo | underdog5004: I'll have to look that one up. | 08:52 |
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| underdog5004 | reldruh, nope, but I do know that Feisty will have much better wireless support, so they may be using .21 | 08:52 |
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| pacman | don't have amarok...downloading now | 08:52 |
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| underdog5004 | pollyo, alright. If you figure it out, gimme a ring...my isp is blocking port 80 | 08:53 |
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| Melchiorre | pacman: could be because your trash bin is full... try shift deleting something and see if it works... | 08:53 |
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| reldruh | underdog5004: I'm on feisty right now. It's kernel 2.6.20-15 and still bad with broadcom. I was wondering if upgrading the kernel to 2.6.21 might help | 08:53 |
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| apus | underdog5004: they cant block port 80 | 08:53 |
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| pollyo | underdog5004: Same with my uncles cable co. | 08:53 |
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| pacman | trying that now Mel | 08:53 |
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| Melchiorre | cool | 08:54 |
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| pacman | mel...didn't make a difference :( | 08:54 |
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| underdog5004 | apus, uh...I can't access my page from outside my LAN...my router is all set to forward any traffic on port 80 to my server, my server loads up pages all day from within the lan...I think they're blocking it... | 08:54 |
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| underdog5004 | go to 75.111.42.40 to check it out | 08:55 |
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| apus | can you go to google.com? | 08:55 |
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| underdog5004 | apus, whoops, looks like I made a fool of myself again... | 08:55 |
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| underdog5004 | darn... | 08:56 |
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| underdog5004 | incidentally, what happens when someone goes to 75.11.42.40 ? | 08:56 |
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| underdog5004 | (that's a hint to try it!) | 08:56 |
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| pollyo | apus: Why can't they block port 80? | 08:56 |
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| Melchiorre | pacman: I guess you've tried 'sudo rm'ing something in a console? | 08:57 |
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| apus | pollyo: if they block port 80 you couldn't use the internet ie http: | 08:57 |
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| apus | underdog5004: nothing happens when I type in the ip | 08:57 |
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| pacman | once or twice mel | 08:57 |
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| apus | underdog5004: sounds like a forwarding issue, but its not your isp | 08:57 |
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| pablet | hello, can anyone help me?? | 08:57 |
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| pollyo | apus: What do they do block it in reverse? Only open it for a specific amount of time when one makes a request? | 08:58 |
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| underdog5004 | bummer | 08:58 |
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| apus | pollyo: They dont block it, most isps don't block any ports | 08:58 |
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| Melchiorre | pablet: ask away... | 08:58 |
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| pollyo | apus:RCN blocks port 80 they claim. | 08:58 |
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| sonoftheclayr | hello pablet what seems to be your problem? | 08:58 |
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| underdog5004 | apus, except bt ports | 08:58 |
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| pablet | I want to reset fstab to default config in order to have all pendrives automounted in directories without having to specify the directory | 08:58 |
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| underdog5004 | at least, the standard ones... | 08:59 |
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| apus | there is a possibility they are using a proxy | 08:59 |
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| pollyo | apus: I'm just happy my cable co. doesn't I would be rather upset if they did considering what they charge. | 08:59 |
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| apus | there should be a way around it tho, have you tried calling them? | 08:59 |
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| pablet | so I want to reset to default settings and get USBs mounted automatically on directories created with the name of the device | 08:59 |
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| Melchiorre | pacman: bugger.... lets hope Amarok works! | 08:59 |
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| pollyo | apus: Additional charge on my uncles part just for a port. | 09:00 |
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| apus | pollyo: where do you live? | 09:00 |
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| pollyo | apus: PA, USA | 09:00 |
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| underdog5004 | apus, meh, I don't want them to know I've got a server w/ a web-server on it...it probably violates my ToS | 09:00 |
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| pollyo | apus: He (my uncles) went with www.rcn.com for cable and internet. | 09:00 |
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| underdog5004 | Suddenlink (my ISP) really sucks | 09:00 |
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| pablet | anyone can help me please? | 09:01 |
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| apus | underdog5004: do they give you a static ip? | 09:01 |
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| underdog5004 | apus, nope | 09:01 |
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| underdog5004 | dynamic | 09:01 |
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| apus | underdog5004: then that would indicate you are right, they dont want you hosting | 09:01 |
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| pacman | mel, what should my mount and dismount stuff be on amarok? I tried 'mount sdb1' but that didn't seem to work | 09:01 |
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| Melchiorre | pablet: can you paste your current fstab into pastebin? | 09:01 |
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| Melchiorre | !pastebin | 09:01 |
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| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) | 09:01 |
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| underdog5004 | yep | 09:01 |
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| apus | underdog5004: they probably block incomming requests | 09:01 |
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| pablet | wait please | 09:02 |
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| Melchiorre | pacman: pull the disconnect and reconnect the mp3 player from your computer and Amarok should detect it automatically... | 09:02 |
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| apus | the amount of things isps are doing now adays is horrible | 09:03 |
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| pollyo | apus: I'll have to suggest my uncle call them and explain that he will be moving to another co. if they can not unblock 80 | 09:03 |
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| pacman | amarok didn't, but konquerer did, as per normal | 09:03 |
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| pablet | ok | 09:03 |
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| pablet | done | 09:03 |
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| apus | pollyo: have you tried dyndns | 09:03 |
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| apus | or try to set up a proxy | 09:03 |
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| pablet | I`ve posted /etc/fstab | 09:03 |
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| pollyo | apus: Why should they block it? They claim they are charging you so you can have the bandwith then they do not want you to use it. lol | 09:03 |
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| pollyo | apus: He is setup on it. | 09:04 |
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| pablet | I changed this file in order to mount usbs in /mnt/sda1 and /mnt/sdb1 | 09:04 |
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| pollyo | apus: So is my machine. | 09:04 |
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| pablet | but I want to restore to default behaviour | 09:04 |
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| apus | pollyo: exactly pollyo they advertise the bandwidth they have for your whole node | 09:04 |
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| Melchiorre | pablet: can you paste the link here? | 09:04 |
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| apus | pollyo: but no one can actually get that speed , if they did no one else would get any | 09:04 |
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| pablet | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16363/ | 09:05 |
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| pablet | Melchiorre: sorry | 09:05 |
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| Melchiorre | pablet: thanks | 09:05 |
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| apus | pollyo: and now they packet shape most torrets, screwing people that use them for legit reasons | 09:05 |
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| pacman | mel, it's still not seeing it in amarok | 09:06 |
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| pollyo | apus: packet shape? | 09:06 |
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| apus | pollyo: p2p packets from torrents get lower bandwidth, to get around it you can encrypt it, but that slows it down and limits connections | 09:07 |
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| apus | pollyo: some isps are slowing down ALL encrypted packet, just to make sure they get the p2p | 09:07 |
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| Melchiorre | pacman: what if you go to settings->configure Amarok-> media devices ->autodetect devices? | 09:07 |
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| apus | thats like bombing a school with 1 enemy inside | 09:07 |
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| pollyo | apus: Great. I just started to mess around with democracytv and it uses torrents. | 09:07 |
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| pollyo | apus: Does that depend on the isp? | 09:08 |
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| apus | pollyo: yeah, some wreck torrents | 09:08 |
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| pacman | mel, did that...waiting on mp3 player to restart before hooking back up | 09:08 |
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| Melchiorre | pablet: are all the sda's and sdb's pendrives? or do you also have other partitions / drives mounted in /media/sda1? | 09:09 |
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| T0uCH | i got a graphic card problem... i tried earlier to install nvidia driver and when i reboot the xorg session nothing was workin... so i reset the x session to normal and now i am wondering...... im in the monitor and display option and i see vesa has my graphic card...in configure... there is my graphic but it doesnt seem to be installed.... if i click to install will it work properly or will it crashed like before?? | 09:09 |
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| Melchiorre | pacman: ok | 09:09 |
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| pollyo | apus: Microsoft is working on some type of vpn tunnelling that will go through anything for vista. | 09:09 |
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| apus | pollyo: vpns already exist | 09:09 |
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| underdog5004 | apus, I'm pretty sure that my isp is shaping as well...when I ran unencrypted bt, I had bad speed, when I plaintext encrypted, I would get slightly better speed, and when I RC4'ed, I got crap speed...when I say speed, I mean for all the computers on my LAN | 09:10 |
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| pacman | still nothing mel | 09:10 |
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| pollyo | apus: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9008679 | 09:10 |
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| pacman | mel: when I went to configure, should I have changed anything under plugin? | 09:10 |
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| underdog5004 | alrighty, I'm going to bed | 09:11 |
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| underdog5004 | g'night | 09:11 |
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| pollyo | apus: VPN from anywhere on the Internet without concern for typical port blocking issues. | 09:11 |
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| apus | pollyo: "The protocol, however, is only for remote access and will not support site-to-site VPN tunnels." | 09:12 |
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| Melchiorre | pacman: umm, try adding a device and putting your mp3 players mount point in (eg /media/MP3 Player) | 09:12 |
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| apus | its so MS can remote to you via VPN and support your computer and fix it for you, without worrying about what all your router and isp blocked | 09:12 |
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| Melchiorre | pablet: are all the sda's and sdb's pendrives? or do you also have other partitions / drives mounted in /media/sda1? | 09:12 |
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| pollyo | apus: You mean spy on you when they want. <grin> | 09:13 |
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| pacman | what should the mount command be? | 09:13 |
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| apus | pollyo: Im not sure much is too all the conspiracy theorys about ms | 09:13 |
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| pollyo | apus: I'm not either and I do not want to get to much off topic. | 09:14 |
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| Melchiorre | pacman: just the path to where the player is mounted (so browse to it in konqueror and copy the url) | 09:14 |
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| Melchiorre | pacman: it's not a mount comman, just the path to where it's mounted | 09:15 |
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| pacman | mel: system:/media/sdb1 ? | 09:16 |
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| pacman | or just /media/sdb1 | 09:16 |
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| _max_ | its the 19th.. c'mon already =( | 09:16 |
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| Melchiorre | pacman: just /media/sdb1 | 09:16 |
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| hagabaka | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades#head-6146e7b1dd7a50f5029fd0704e38cad9420c000a does this mean I shouldn't have had edgy-updates enabled before? | 09:16 |
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| pablet | Melchiorre: (sorry I was out for a moment).....they are generally pendrives or USB external HDs | 09:16 |
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| pacman | okay, I'm in | 09:18 |
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| pacman | I just deleted all the music (I'll add more later) do I just click disconnect, and I'm done? | 09:18 |
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| Melchiorre | pablet: that's cool... replace your fstab with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16364/ I've just commented out your removable drives. so with that file, it should be returned to normal, but if it's not, you can just uncomment the changes. | 09:19 |
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| Melchiorre | pacman: yep. But you'll also need to unmount it as you would normally... | 09:19 |
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| pacman | what's the unmount path? | 09:20 |
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| Melchiorre | pacman: no idea, I don't use it, but 'umount /media/sdb1' might work | 09:22 |
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| pacman | command failed | 09:22 |
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| Jiraiya | . | 09:23 |
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| pablet | Melchiorre: hahaha, I didn know that there was no need to declare them in fstab, I just thought that there was a "special value" in mountpoint in order to get them mounted in a created folder | 09:23 |
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| flaccid | whats the go with the new UUID fstab entries. whats it for? | 09:24 |
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| Jiraiya | hello have problems with epsxe controller i used xjoypad but only the buttons works | 09:25 |
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| pablet | Melchiorre: hey, it seems to work well, I'm gonna give a try today with many pendrives connected (because I configured these drives manually because they were giving me any problem with more than one of them connected) | 09:25 |
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| Jucato | !uuid | flaccid | 09:25 |
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| ubotu | flaccid: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: blkid (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID) | 09:25 |
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| pablet | Melchiorre: probably because of any buggy kernel version or something like this | 09:26 |
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| flaccid | thanks Jucy | 09:26 |
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| pablet | Melchiorre: hey, I have to leave.....thanks for your help!!!!! | 09:28 |
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| pablet | Melchiorre: thanks again!! c ya!!! | 09:29 |
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| Jiraiya | hello im a noob at xjoypad nid little help | 09:29 |
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| Jiraiya | my buttons works but my axe wont | 09:29 |
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| flaccid | i don't see how UUID makes our life simpler but anyway. | 09:30 |
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| xaz | mi serve una mano.... | 09:32 |
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| Jucato | flaccid: it would mean that even if you switched your HDD's around, as long as they are referrenced by UUID in fstab, then you don't have to worry about anything | 09:32 |
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| jbrouhard | Okay.. i'm running fiesty right now | 09:35 |
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| kraut | moin | 09:35 |
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| flaccid | Jucato: true. i guess im used to bios identifiers for hard disks like on bsd unix. | 09:35 |
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| jbrouhard | but i ahve to ask.. why is gaim on 1.2.beta ? | 09:35 |
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| pollyo | jbrouhard: the website says 1.50 | 09:37 |
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| jbrouhard | gaim.sf.net says 1.50. yes | 09:37 |
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| pollyo | 1.5.0 | 09:37 |
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| jbrouhard | but I ran apt-cache show gaim | 09:37 |
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| jbrouhard | and it says | 09:37 |
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| jbrouhard | OH, nevermind | 09:37 |
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| jbrouhard | I read it wrong | 09:37 |
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| jbrouhard | 1:2.0.0Beta6 | 09:38 |
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| rubso | dudez where is my kubuntu feisty fawn? | 09:38 |
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| khatahn | hi, what text editor should i use to edit a huge text file? something that doesn't try to load everything in memory at once | 09:39 |
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| duck_ | when i write files to my floppy drive with a disk in, it just puts the files in a folder labeled floppy0, how do i actually add the files to the disk? | 09:39 |
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| apus | does ktorrent support encryption | 09:40 |
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| mackyman | duck_: you can use terminal by doing following: cat /path/to/file > /dev/fd0 | 09:42 |
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| mackyman | ops | 09:42 |
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| mackyman | cat /path/to/file > /dev/fd/0 | 09:42 |
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| Jucato | duck_: you mean in /media/floppy0? | 09:44 |
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| duck_ | Jucato yes | 09:44 |
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| Jucato | duck_: then that's your floppy disk | 09:44 |
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| Jucato | it's the folder/location in the Linux filesystem for your floopy disk | 09:45 |
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| duck_ | Jucato: but when i copy files into that, it does't write them to the disk, it just sits there... | 09:45 |
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| Jucato | how do you check if it's written to the disk or not? | 09:45 |
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| duck_ | i put it in another computer to see if the files are there | 09:46 |
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| Jucato | ah. hm... | 09:46 |
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| duck_ | lol, it's okay | 09:46 |
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| apus | there are over 1k people in #ubuntu | 09:47 |
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| duck_ | i was feeling very nostalgic tonight, and this is my only computer with a floppy drive on it | 09:47 |
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| duck_ | so i decided to get one of my older, junkier computers and put Windows 3.1 on it | 09:47 |
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| pollyo | Do they have anything in the repositories to create webpages? | 09:50 |
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| mackyman | duck_: didn't cat /path/to/file > /dev/fd/0 work? | 09:50 |
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| mackyman | pollyo: Quanta | 09:50 |
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| mackyman | A really neat program =) Using it everyday as a Webdevel | 09:51 |
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| pollyo | mackyman: That something for your average joe? I'm not a big time web developer? (looking it up now) | 09:51 |
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| mackyman | What do you want it to d0 | 09:52 |
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| mackyman | = | 09:52 |
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| mackyman | ? | 09:52 |
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| mackyman | Gui drag and drop elements? Or just syntax highlightning? | 09:52 |
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| mackyman | In anycase, it have both | 09:52 |
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| pollyo | mackyman: I'll start with drag and drop. | 09:52 |
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| pollyo | mackyman: If it allows me to automatically update a site from within the software that would be great. | 09:53 |
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| Jucato | try Nvu. Quanta isn't really a full WYSIWYG editor | 09:53 |
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| mackyman | pollyo: Yep, it can do that | 09:54 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: oh in that case, you'd be better off with Quanta | 09:54 |
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| Jucato | Quanta + KIO | 09:54 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: Is Nvu in the repos? | 09:54 |
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| Goliath23 | when is the release, when is the release? are we there yet?! why is ubuntu.com down? :) | 09:54 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: Is KIO another package? | 09:54 |
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| mackyman | Jucato: Nvu... Hmmm. I'll check that one out? | 09:54 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: no KIO is not a separate package. it's built into KDE | 09:55 |
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| pollyo | Installing quanta now. | 09:55 |
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| pollyo | Didn't take note of Nvu in the repos. | 09:55 |
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| Jucato | nvu is in the repos | 09:55 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: I must have mistyped ... I'll check again in a min. | 09:56 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: kio allows you to access different types of filesystems, both local (on your pc) and remote ("out there") very transparently, as if you were accessing them locally | 09:56 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: examples would be sftp:/, ftp:/, http:/, media:/, remote:/, etc. | 09:57 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: Wow. | 09:57 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: That makes things easy. | 09:57 |
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| mackyman | pollyo: I have used it that way, and it works great at that | 09:57 |
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| Jucato | so basically, you can open your .html file (in your remote server/web space) in Kate or Quanta and edit it from those apps. when you save, it saves to the remote server/web space. | 09:58 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: Very nice. | 09:58 |
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| Jucato | unfortuntely, I don't think Nvu will let you do that, since it's not a KDE app | 09:58 |
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| Jucato | Quanta (and Kate) can, but Quanta isn't very drag-n-drop-ish | 09:59 |
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| emonkey-p | isn't quanta a qt thml dev app? | 09:59 |
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| lzap | hi guys, is IT out? :-D | 09:59 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: I'm not coming up with "nvu" in the repos. | 09:59 |
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| Riddell | lzap: see topic | 09:59 |
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| lzap | Riddell: I see, very exact... :-D | 10:00 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: hm... hold on | 10:00 |
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| apus | for ktorrent I can use any port? | 10:00 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: are you on feisty already? | 10:00 |
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| lzap | ap | 10:00 |
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| lzap | apus: higher than 1024 | 10:00 |
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| apus | lz | 10:00 |
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| apus | lzap: | 10:01 |
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| apus | dang it | 10:01 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: Yes | 10:01 |
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| apus | lzap: i should change it from default tho? | 10:01 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: strange, seems like nvu's not here as well | 10:01 |
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| lzap | apus: I suggest 7000 | 10:01 |
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| mackyman | pollyo: I find it on my Edgy system | 10:01 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: Was it in 6.10? | 10:01 |
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| Jucato | yes | 10:01 |
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| apus | and use dhct? | 10:01 |
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| Jucato | hm... strange... really strange.. | 10:04 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: They doing much with Nvu? The website has a version packaged for 5. somthing... | 10:05 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: Nvu 1.0 - Released June 28th, 2005 | 10:05 |
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| Jucato | hm... | 10:05 |
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| pollyo | Maybe they stopped working on it? | 10:05 |
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| pollyo | BRB... going to statup kde | 10:06 |
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| ranjan | web development? www.aptana.com nothing is better | 10:06 |
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| Jucato | maybe, maybe not | 10:06 |
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| keisangi | hi there | 10:06 |
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| pollyo | Hello | 10:09 |
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| ranjan | pollyo: www.aptana.com nothing is better | 10:09 |
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| apus | do I have to use port forwarding on my router for k torrent | 10:10 |
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| SilentDis | ok... #ubuntu-release-party gives me vertigo. lol | 10:10 |
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| ranjan | apus: yes | 10:11 |
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| pollyo | ranjan: Thanks .. That looks a little over the top but I'll check it out. | 10:11 |
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| ranjan | pollyo: if you are good at hand coding that is the best! | 10:12 |
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| apus | ranjan: they why did it work before I was forwarding? I think my speed lowered when I enabled it | 10:12 |
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| pollyo | ranjan: I think drag and drop is my speed at this point. | 10:12 |
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| ranjan | pollyo: quata will not help u... ue best bet is dreamweaver . wine | 10:13 |
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| ranjan | quanta or nvu | 10:13 |
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| pollyo | ranjan: I'm just about to start quanta. | 10:14 |
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| ranjan | pollyo: quanta is not drag and drop | 10:14 |
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| ranjan | pollyo: if linus is your primary OS, you are better off learning hand cofing | 10:15 |
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| apus | a friend told me to install automatix and then I found out it was a bad idea, I removed it by purging it with apt-get and deleting it from the source file, i should be fine right? | 10:18 |
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| ranjan | apus: also open ur sources.list and remove any automatix added repos | 10:18 |
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| apus | ranjan: yep I did that | 10:18 |
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| ranjan | apus: u r good to go | 10:19 |
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| reldruh | does anybody know what the difference between the nvidia-glx and the nvidia-glx-new package is? And which one I'm better off installing? | 10:19 |
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| apus | ranjan: I still suffer from windows paranoia | 10:19 |
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| ranjan | Apus: for multimedia stuff google medibuntu | 10:19 |
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| YingFan | how do i get an usb hd get automatically mounted without having a permanent entry in fstab? | 10:19 |
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| apus | ranjan: I have everything I need now from restricted formats | 10:20 |
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| ranjan | apus: cool | 10:20 |
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| keisangi | how can i do this with kopete: /msg nickserv identify mypassword | 10:21 |
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| keisangi | ? | 10:21 |
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| ranjan | YingFan: edgy/feisty auto mounts usb drives | 10:21 |
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| YingFan | ranjan im on feisty, it doesnt... | 10:22 |
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| keisangi | i seems to be unable to identify my nick when i'm irc'ing with kopete | 10:22 |
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| YingFan | ranjan it detects them fine, and i can mount them manually... | 10:22 |
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| ranjan | keisangi: goggle kopete automatic commands | 10:24 |
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| keisangi | ic.. i'll try that .. thanks for the info ranjan | 10:24 |
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| ranjan | YingFan: /etc/init.d/dbus restart should automount it, if it doesn't i am unable to help | 10:24 |
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| ranjan | YingFan: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart | 10:25 |
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| dwidmann | Uggh, I think I may have discovered a bug in Krita :( | 10:28 |
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| Cem_UNAL | When is the release time? Home page has been said "tomorrow" yesterday. Now it says "tomorrow" :) When is "tomorrow" ? :) | 10:30 |
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| YingFan | the day obese women start a diet | 10:30 |
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| ranjan | Cem_UNAL: it is out already | 10:31 |
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| Cem_UNAL | the thursday of uncoming mount :D | 10:31 |
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| Cem_UNAL | ** the last thursday of uncoming mount :D | 10:32 |
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| _4strO | Tomorrow never die ! | 10:33 |
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| Cem_UNAL | ranjan: but ubuntu and kubuntu home page does not say that?; and i want to download new release of Kubuntu; where can i find it? | 10:37 |
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| ranjan | http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce | 10:38 |
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| ranjan | http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ | 10:39 |
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| Cem_UNAL | ranjan: do u know iso link for Kubuntu? | 10:39 |
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| _4strO | ranjan: better | 10:39 |
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| Riddell | Cem_UNAL: it's not out yet, won't be long | 10:39 |
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| ranjan | http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ | 10:39 |
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| Riddell | the torrents are not up yet | 10:40 |
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| ranjan | its out | 10:40 |
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| ranjan | follow my link | 10:40 |
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| reldruh | what is the nvidia-glx-new package? | 10:41 |
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| Cem_UNAL | reldruh: it for non legacy card ( legacy cards : TNT and olders ) u can find its under nvidia glx read me. | 10:42 |
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| reldruh | Cem_UNAL: how is that different from the nvidia-glx package? | 10:43 |
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| chemisus | reldruh, you sure those arnt beta ones? | 10:43 |
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| reldruh | chemisus: i installed feisty and they're both in adept | 10:43 |
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| reldruh | chemisus: it doesn't say anything about beta | 10:44 |
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| chemisus | feisty-desktop-i386.iso? | 10:44 |
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| reldruh | chemisus: yes | 10:44 |
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| chemisus | reldruh, ok, thanks | 10:44 |
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| reldruh | chemisus: what for? | 10:44 |
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| chemisus | the info =P | 10:44 |
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| Cem_UNAL | :) | 10:45 |
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| chemisus | its 5am here, im ready to sleep =P | 10:45 |
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| pollyo | I believe they have three nvidia drivers now glx-legacy, glx, and glx-new | 10:46 |
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| Scunizi | I'm trying to get beryl working. I've installed the ati binary drivers from synaptic and installed beryl but have no idea how to activate it. Ideas? | 10:47 |
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| Cem_UNAL | pollyo: glx is glx-new is not it ? | 10:47 |
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| reldruh | well, neither nvidia package seems to be working for me so unless anybody has a last minute suggestion I'm going to go download and install it straight from the nvidia website | 10:48 |
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| Cem_UNAL | now again: kubuntu 7.04 isos is ready or not ready? (not torrent) | 10:48 |
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| reldruh | Cem_UNAL: it doesn't look like they're ready, the kubuntu website doesn't have an announcement | 10:49 |
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| pollyo | Cem_UNAL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2437578 | 10:50 |
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| Cem_UNAL | tomorrow is today; today is tomorrow for ubuntu :D | 10:50 |
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| andreas_ | i have problems with ata devices. maybe the kernel is not ready. | 10:50 |
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| Cem_UNAL | pollyo: tx | 10:50 |
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| pollyo | 1.0-9755 == nvidia-glx-new | 10:50 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: <geser> Jucato: nvu was removed because it is unmaintained upstream, kompozer is the successor of nvu (but not yet in Ubuntu) | 10:50 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: kompozer ok. Thank you. | 10:51 |
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| reldruh | pollyo: do I have to do something special to get it working? I tried installing it and restarting my X server and then I couldn't even run glxgears | 10:51 |
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| Cem_UNAL | 1.0-7xxx = glx-old | 10:51 |
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| Cem_UNAL | :) | 10:51 |
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| pollyo | reldruh: Do you have the correct driver? | 10:51 |
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| pollyo | reldruh: That link I shared has an Appendix link with information on the driver you need for a specific card. | 10:52 |
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| reldruh | pollyo: correct as in not legacy and am I sure I have an nvidia card? if so, yes. I have a geforce 7300 | 10:52 |
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| reldruh | pollyo: could you post the link again? I restarted my X server without copying it | 10:52 |
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| pollyo | reldruh: There are three nvidia drivers now. | 10:52 |
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| pollyo | reldruh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2437578 | 10:53 |
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| Cem_UNAL | ^^^ | 10:53 |
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| sivaji | !fiesty | 10:55 |
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| sivaji | ! fiesty | 10:55 |
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| Chousuke | !feisty | 10:55 |
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| Chousuke | hm | 10:55 |
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| ubotu | Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn | FEISTY IS NOT RELEASED YET | 10:55 |
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| Chousuke | there it is | 10:55 |
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| sivaji | ok | 10:56 |
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| reldruh | pollyo: I see. My card is on the first part of that list, where it says to use 1.0-9755. That would be the nvidia-glx-new package, but when I tried installing that it didn't work and I was unable to run even glxgears | 10:56 |
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| sivaji | is there any way to upgrade from edgy to feisty | 10:57 |
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| reldruh | pollyo: should I have any other packages besides nvidia-kernel-common and nvidia-glx-new installed to have it working? | 10:57 |
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| pollyo | reldruh: I can't say for sure. | 10:58 |
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| sivaji | whether feisty is released or not ? | 10:58 |
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| Jucato | sivaji: I think the GUI dist-upgrade tool will be made available from the edgy repositories once it's officially released. | 10:59 |
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| reldruh | pollyo: OK. I guess I'll do some googling around then. Thanks for your help. It would have taken me a long time to find that list | 10:59 |
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| mrigns | Jucato: saw you on planet.ubuntu.com /bow | 11:00 |
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| mrigns | \o/ | 11:00 |
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| Jucato | lol :D | 11:00 |
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| Jucato | reldruh: you need linux-restricted-modules-generic | 11:01 |
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| sivaji | ! feisty | 11:01 |
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| ubotu | Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn | FEISTY IS NOT RELEASED YET | 11:01 |
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| unix_infidel | lol, its 0400 already here. | 11:01 |
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| unix_infidel | what's the hold up ! | 11:01 |
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| pollyo | reOh..yes | 11:02 |
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| Jucato | unix_infidel: hm.. timezones? | 11:02 |
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| reldruh | Jucato: it's already installed | 11:02 |
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| unix_infidel | central US | 11:03 |
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| reldruh | Jucato: both linux-restricted-modules-generic and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic | 11:03 |
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| Jucato | reldruh: ok, just making sure. nvidia-glx + linux-restricted-modules-generic, then "sudo nvidia-xconfig" | 11:03 |
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| pdroy | Hi there, Is 7.04 RC already released | 11:03 |
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| Jucato | reldruh: is that the kernel you are using? | 11:03 |
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| Jucato | pdroy: skipped RC. today will be the stable release | 11:03 |
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| pollyo | reldruh: You have two restricted modules? | 11:03 |
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| pdroy | Jucato: woow thats nice, cant wait | 11:04 |
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| reldruh | Jucato: I can't tell you how dumb I feel. Usually when I install nvidia drivers it changes my xorg.conf for me, but I didn't change it manually this time around | 11:04 |
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| reldruh | pollyo: yes | 11:04 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: no, the -generic is just a metapackage | 11:10 |
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| reldruh | pollyo: then no :-) | 11:10 |
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| Jucato | I mean, linux-restricted-modules-generic is a metapackage | 11:10 |
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| reldruh | Jucato: I now have to restart my X server? | 11:10 |
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| pdroy | I screwed my system trying to install ATI drivers, now waiting for the 7.04 Download -> Install :) | 11:10 |
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| _Johny | has feisty been finally released? | 11:10 |
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| Scunizi | nope | 11:10 |
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| Jucato | _Johny: see /topic :) | 11:10 |
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| _Johny | when then? | 11:10 |
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| pollyo | Anyone else having trouble brining up the ubuntu website? | 11:10 |
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| reldruh | Jucato: it worked! Thank you! Now I just have to try and remember how to get all my fonts back down to their normal size... | 11:10 |
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| _Johny | Jucato: Hello:). I just wonder becouse there's no news on Kubuntu site | 11:10 |
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| Jucato | _Johny: well, there's no news to report yet :) | 11:10 |
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| pdroy | !foo | 11:10 |
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| ubotu | foo is bar | 11:10 |
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| pdroy | !ATI | 11:10 |
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| ubotu | To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 11:10 |
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| pgquiles__ | _Johny: the download page already shows the Feisty download section with a "coming soon" | 11:10 |
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| pdroy | !vmware | 11:10 |
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| ubotu | VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers | 11:10 |
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| Cugel | http://www.kubuntu.org/ is not updated, yet. | 11:10 |
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| Jucato | there is nothing to update yet | 11:10 |
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| Cugel | True, that. | 11:10 |
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| Cugel | I had some trouble finding good upgrade instructions for kubuntu. | 11:10 |
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| Jucato | Cugel: Edgy to Feisty? there will be no need. the new dist-upgrade tool will take care of everything | 11:10 |
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| Cugel | Jucato: and where do I find that tool? | 11:10 |
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| Jucato | Cugel: it will be made available as an update once feisty is released | 11:11 |
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| pdroy | I dont like upgrades, I like fresh installation. Take /home backup , install and copy backup back, its so easy | 11:12 |
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| pdroy | only pain is to install the many additional packages :) | 11:12 |
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| Jucato | it's nice to have options | 11:13 |
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| pdroy | yup | 11:13 |
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| pdroy | !Feisty | 11:13 |
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| ledemente | hi all. | 11:19 |
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| pdroy | hi ledemente | 11:19 |
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| ledemente | I'm having some issues with Kopete | 11:19 |
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| ledemente | Specifically, it freezes almost as soon as it's opened./ | 11:19 |
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| myky | hi all can we help me....a want install beryl on my kubuntu but i don't known how pls hep me | 11:20 |
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| Cem_UNAL | myky read wiki | 11:20 |
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| ledemente | I've tried uninstalling, reinstalling. Still having issues. | 11:21 |
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| psb154 | ledemente, has it ever worked or has it always crashed for you? | 11:22 |
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| myky | Cem_UNAL: thx but try read it but after i must reinstall kubuntu because my x was down | 11:22 |
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| ledemente | It used to work. My last Ubuntu installation had the exact same issue - it worked for a while, then started crashing. | 11:22 |
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| ledemente | It's not just Kopete, the mouse and keyboard freeze at the same time. | 11:22 |
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| jtmoney | is feisty final coming out today or was it delayed? | 11:23 |
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| pdroy | ledemente: I had use kopete initially then I switched to GAIM | 11:23 |
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| Jucato | jtmoney: today.as to what time... well you'll have to wait | 11:23 |
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| pdroy | jtmoney: It should be coming today, but no idea of the time | 11:23 |
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| psb154 | sounds like ledemente has bigger problems though. | 11:23 |
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| jtmoney | Jucato: okay, thank you | 11:23 |
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| Cugel | I have a question. I want to move a lot of files to a new drive partition. At the moment I only have one huge partition. How do I create a new partition on this drive? Gparted refuses to change anything to the drive (probably since my system is on it?) | 11:23 |
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| jtmoney | thanks | 11:23 |
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| Cem_UNAL | myky: login with live cd | 11:23 |
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| myky | Cem_UNAL: and after? | 11:24 |
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| VSpike | Is the Feisty release going to cover kubuntu as well? | 11:24 |
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| sonoftheclayr | Cugel: try a live cd such as the gparted live cd, ubuntu live cd or puppy linux (they are what i use) | 11:24 |
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| Cugel | spike: of course!!! | 11:24 |
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| ledemente | pdroy: Gaim is fine... but it's lacks the features I want. | 11:24 |
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| VSpike | Cugel: cool... just checking | 11:24 |
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| Cugel | son: gparted live CD -- didn't know about that one, will check. | 11:25 |
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| pdroy | ledemente: whats the functionality u r looking | 11:25 |
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| Cem_UNAL | myky: u can configure it reading wiki if nessery make chroot and cofigure ur system | 11:25 |
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| Cugel | I presume Gparted understands that I don't want to lose the data on my disk? (I'm always _very_ afraid of doing stuff to my partitions) | 11:25 |
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| ledemente | pdroy: ? | 11:25 |
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| sonoftheclayr | Cugel: I have never lost data from messing about using gparted unless i deleted the partition | 11:26 |
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| VSpike | My system is kinda of increasingly broken. I've kind of accepted a clean install is the best way to go, so I'd be stupid not to wait until feisty release. But I'm getting sick of all the oddness at this end. | 11:26 |
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| Cugel | Ok. | 11:26 |
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| VSpike | I can't wait to swap all my existing problems for interesting new ones :) | 11:26 |
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| pdroy | ledemente: whats the special Feature you are looking for | 11:26 |
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| myky | Cem_UNAL: known i have ati xpres200 in my notebook...and i have problem find manual for driver install ati | 11:26 |
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| ledemente | pdroy: Webcam for one, but I'd rather not find a replacement app... I'd like to get this one to work. | 11:27 |
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| Cem_UNAL | myky: http://wiki.pardus-linux.nl/index.php/HOWTO:Installing_and_Using_Beryl u can find under this document | 11:28 |
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| pdroy | http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ | 11:29 |
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| pdroy | I guess 7.04 is released | 11:29 |
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| Jucato | pages aren't updated all at the same time. some servers might contain more updated data than others | 11:30 |
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| pdroy | ledemente: I had very bad experiences wit webcams | 11:30 |
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| myky | Cem_UNAL: thx very much i go try it :) | 11:30 |
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| Cem_UNAL | myky: np | 11:30 |
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| ledemente | pdroy: So? | 11:31 |
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| insmod | anyone have a fixe on the usplash _down on a laptop -- dose not work even if i rename /sbin/usplash_down | 11:31 |
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| keisangi | pdroy nice :) | 11:32 |
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| Cem_UNAL | is this ok --> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso | 11:33 |
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| Cem_UNAL | ??? | 11:33 |
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| Cugel | Sure. | 11:34 |
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| pdroy | http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/ | 11:35 |
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| mackyman | !fiesty | 11:36 |
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| ubotu | Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn | FEISTY IS NOT RELEASED YET | 11:36 |
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| === ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : Kubuntu Support Channel | Almost there #ubuntu-release-party | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please |
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| Riddell | Cem_UNAL: that's not kubuntu | 11:37 |
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| Cugel | I think it's being released as we speak -- at least all sites went down in flames :-) | 11:37 |
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| Cem_UNAL | Riddell: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso | 11:38 |
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| icf7 | anyone got the torrent of the i386 Desktop CD? | 11:38 |
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| dwiguna | hi | 11:38 |
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| Cem_UNAL | ^^^ is this kubuntu :D | 11:38 |
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| Riddell | Cem_UNAL: I couldn't possibly comment | 11:39 |
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| Riddell | icf7: torrents aren't yet active | 11:39 |
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| icf7 | Riddell: thx | 11:40 |
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| icf7 | When are they expected to start serving? | 11:40 |
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| Cugel | Dudes, we can also be patient and wait a day for kubuntu.org to update. I mean, it will probably break your network and you'll cry :-) | 11:40 |
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| Gartra1 | any ops in here? | 11:43 |
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| Cugel | Yeah | 11:44 |
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| Jucato | Gartra1: what for? | 11:44 |
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| Jucato | may I be of assistance? | 11:44 |
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| Gartra1 | Seveas banned me from the main ubuntu chanel., i need to talk to him as for why | 11:44 |
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| Gartra1 | and why he wont unban me | 11:45 |
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| Jucato | Gartra1: #ubuntu-ops please | 11:45 |
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| insmod | anyone have a fixe on the usplash _down on a laptop -- dose not work even if i rename /sbin/usplash_down | 11:45 |
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| psb154 | Gartra1, Create another account and log on again :-) | 11:46 |
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| Jucato | psb154: not if it's his IP that was banned | 11:46 |
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| Gartra1 | cant, seveas banned my ip | 11:46 |
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| psb154 | Jucato, saw you ban someone yesterday and you used their nick *@* | 11:47 |
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| Jucato | psb154: yes. that was for a quick and messy ban. I immediately removed the nick ban and substituted and IP ban | 11:47 |
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| psb154 | Oooo O_o | 11:47 |
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| Jucato | you can check the channe ban list :D | 11:48 |
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| pollyo | Do those types of bans work of people have dynamic ips? | 11:48 |
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| pollyo | Do that many people actually have a dedicated ip? | 11:49 |
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| psb154 | Aha... good point | 11:49 |
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| apus | US MIRROR http://www.public.iastate.edu/~timerbes/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent | 11:49 |
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| pollyo | apus: Is that a beta? | 11:50 |
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| apus | nope | 11:51 |
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| apus | thats final | 11:51 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: Is there going to be updates for people running the 7.04 beta rc's? | 11:51 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: if you have done your daily dist-upgrade, then no | 11:52 |
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| pollyo | Jucato: Ok. | 11:52 |
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| Jucato | or rather, afaik, no | 11:52 |
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| mackyman | Is it me, or are ppl behaving like kids on christmas in #ubuntu-release-party ? =P | 11:53 |
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| pollyo | <grin> | 11:53 |
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| Jucato | <larger grin> | 11:54 |
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| pollyo | How many people can be in one irc chat (room)? | 11:54 |
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| Gartra1 | 10000 | 11:55 |
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| mackyman | pollyo: To many? ;) | 11:55 |
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| Jucato | depends on the channel I guess | 11:55 |
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| pollyo | Gartra1: That per server or per chat room? | 11:56 |
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| tv | hi all | 11:56 |
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| Gartra1 | no, it varryes, i was basing it off of the main #ubuntu | 11:56 |
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| Jucato | pollyo: it depends on the channel, if the ops set a limit to the number of users. | 11:57 |
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| pdroy | !Fiesty | 12:00 |
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| malik__ | hi ...........does any on else hava problem with amarok........i updated it from 1.4.3 to 1.4.5 n its veryyyyyyyyy slow to respond......im using kubuntu edgy | 12:02 |
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| ledemente | I asked before... but I will again. | 12:03 |
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| ledemente | Kopete keeps freezing up on me. Anyone else had this problem? | 12:04 |
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| psb154 | ledmente, you also said that other apps crash as well when you use your mouse and keyboard :-/ | 12:04 |
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| psb154 | :-D | 12:05 |
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| ledemente | HAHAHAHAH | 12:05 |
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| ledemente | No. | 12:05 |
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| ledemente | Not what I said. | 12:05 |
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| ledemente | I was saying that when kopete crashes, my keyboard/mouse freezes up. | 12:05 |
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| psb154 | ok | 12:05 |
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| ledemente | So... fix it. | 12:06 |
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| ledemente | XD | 12:06 |
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| psb154 | ledemente are you using a web cam when this happens | 12:06 |
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| ledemente | No. | 12:06 |
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| ledemente | It's just when the program opens and is about to show the MSN contact groups. | 12:07 |
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| ledemente | It freezes just as it starts to show them | 12:07 |
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| malik__ | hi ...........does any on else hava problem with amarok........i updated it from 1.4.3 to 1.4.5 n its veryyyyyyyyy slow to respond......im using kubuntu edgy | 12:07 |
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| psb154 | ledemente, 'them'? | 12:07 |
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| psb154 | i see | 12:07 |
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| ledemente | malik__: I find Amarok slow to start up and very occasionally lags. | 12:07 |
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| ledemente | psb154: ... what? | 12:08 |
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| ledemente | psb154: ? | 12:08 |
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| psb154 | ledemente, try this: move ~./kde/share/apps/kopete to some other name and restart kopete | 12:08 |
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| psb154 | mv ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete-old | 12:10 |
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| pgquiles__ | torrents already in FTP! | 12:11 |
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| os2mac | ok serious question here.... | 12:12 |
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| malik__ | so whats is good music player for kubuntu then? | 12:12 |
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| os2mac | I am on the Fiesty Beta. do I need to change my repositories to upgrade to the final? | 12:12 |
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| Jucato | os2mac: you don't need to | 12:12 |
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| os2mac | so they are the same repositories? | 12:12 |
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| Jucato | yes | 12:12 |
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| Jucato | there are no separate repositories for feisty herd, beta, rc, final. feisty is feisty | 12:13 |
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| Gartra1 | heres a question from the past: are the old 4.10 repos still up? | 12:13 |
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| Jucato | I'm not sure. you'd have to ask in #ubuntu-devel | 12:14 |
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| Sanne | Gartra1: I just looked at packages.ubuntu.com, it seems so. | 12:14 |
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| TuTuFF | for dualcore PCs wanting to run 32bit code, which is the correct install disc, i386 or alternate i386? | 12:14 |
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| chuso | Jucato: please, what repos are those for upgrading to edgy? | 12:15 |
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| Jucato | chuso: from dapper to edgy? | 12:15 |
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| chuso | s/edgy/feisty | 12:16 |
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| chuso | sorry :) | 12:16 |
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| chuso | edgy to feisty | 12:16 |
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| Jucato | chuso: ah you don't have to. once it's released there will be a dist-upgrade/upgrade manager available | 12:16 |
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| Gartra1 | it goes horray hedgehog/dapper drake/ edgy eft/feisty fawn if im not mistaken | 12:17 |
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| Sanne | Gartra1: they are at least listet here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ | 12:17 |
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| myky | all: please help me i have ati xpres200 in my notebook a i dont known how i install glx please help me ..i have kubuntu edgy | 12:17 |
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| chuso | so i can't dist-upgrade my system now? | 12:18 |
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| sivaji_2009 | !pastebin | 12:18 |
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| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) | 12:18 |
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| _4strO | chuso: you have something about it in adept i think | 12:18 |
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| Jucato | chuso: not unless you want to manually change your repositories and risk running into problems. but you can if you really want to | 12:18 |
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| Sanne | !ati | myky | 12:18 |
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| ubotu | myky: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 12:18 |
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| Sanne | myky: see if those docs help you. | 12:19 |
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| chuso | ok thanks _4strO and Jucato ! And do you know when will be released kubuntu feisty? | 12:20 |
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| Gartra1 | what is that key that you use to have ubotu say someones name? | 12:20 |
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| neonlinux | just curious... does kubuntu get released the same time as ubuntu? | 12:20 |
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| Jucato | chuso: today | 12:20 |
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| Jucato | neonlinux: yes | 12:20 |
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| Gartra1 | all dists are released at the same time | 12:20 |
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| Jucato | rather, all official distros | 12:21 |
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| ReTyPe | will there be a kubuntu released today, or just Ubuntu ? | 12:21 |
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| neonlinux | YAY... here i am hanging around in the release party channel.. and that thought struck my head.. panic set in at the amount of time ive wasted loll | 12:21 |
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| Gartra1 | there are unofficial ones? | 12:21 |
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| Jucato | ReTyPe: ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, and edubuntu | 12:23 |
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| ReTyPe | ok, thx for the info, any ETA ? | 12:23 |
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| ReTyPe | btw, today its my birthday too, i am getting the most beautifull present in years | 12:23 |
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| neonlinux | ReTyPe: happy birthday.... today is the only info given for release | 12:24 |
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| XenThraL | happy bday dude | 12:24 |
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| ReTyPe | so is this the final one?? http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso | 12:24 |
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| neonlinux | ReTyPe: thats the last daily build.. not the release apparently | 12:25 |
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| _4strO | it's seem so ReTyPe | 12:25 |
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| ReTyPe | very confusing | 12:25 |
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| _4strO | nver mind | 12:25 |
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| Grexeo | is it safe to upgrade from kubuntu edgy to feisty, or should I do a clean install? | 12:26 |
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| _4strO | what the difference between the release today and tomorrow :p | 12:26 |
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| Goliath23 | Grexeo: check this out: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade | 12:26 |
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| ICMike5 | Anybody know if 7.04 final is still due today? | 12:27 |
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| Grexeo | Goliath23: thanks | 12:28 |
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| Gartra1 | ICMike5: it out | 12:29 |
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| ICMike5 | I didnt see it on the kubuntu download site | 12:30 |
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| Assimilator | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/7.04/release/ | 12:30 |
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| Grexeo | what's the difference between the DVD version and the CD version? | 12:31 |
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| Grexeo | (I would read up myself but most of the ubuntu site is unreachable for me) | 12:32 |
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| neonlinux | Grexeo: i have no idea sorry.... i usually use the cds | 12:33 |
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| sivaji_2009 | shutdown -h 4200 when this command will halt system | 12:34 |
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| sivaji_2009 | !feisty | 12:34 |
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| ubotu | Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn | FEISTY IS NOT RELEASED YET | 12:34 |
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| os2mac | If I load the Gnome desktop to my Kubuntu install... will it change the default desktop to Gnome? | 12:34 |
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| myky | all: can we help me so direct rendering was yes... | 12:34 |
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| myky | myky@myky-laptop:/etc/X11$ glxinfo |grep direct | 12:34 |
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| myky | Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". | 12:34 |
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| myky | direct rendering: No | 12:34 |
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| myky | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect | 12:34 |
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| os2mac | anyone? | 12:36 |
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| pharsalus | Greetings, any idea of the ETA on Feisty? | 12:36 |
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| ReTyPe | os2mac: you can make the choice at the login screen, and choose you standard desktop environment | 12:37 |
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| tux | hi all | 12:37 |
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| mackyman | heya | 12:37 |
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| tux | does anyone know where i can find ATI drivers for feisty? | 12:38 |
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| os2mac | ReTyPe: but what will be the default? Gnome or KDE? | 12:38 |
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| os2mac | and how do I set it? | 12:38 |
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| os2mac | !Fiesty | 12:39 |
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| ubotu | Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn | FEISTY IS NOT RELEASED YET | 12:39 |
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| mackyman | tux: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide | 12:39 |
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| Grexeo | pharsalus: the dvd release is available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/7.04/release/ - no idea when we can expect the CD release though | 12:39 |
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| mackyman | When Feisty fawn is releast, a guide will be there | 12:39 |
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| ReTyPe | if you use Kubuntu, KDE will be your standard desktop, but at the login screen you can set your default to Gnome | 12:39 |
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| mackyman | Or, atlast, probable | 12:39 |
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| tux | oh, but im already running feisty beta :p | 12:40 |
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| mackyman | tux: You can always try the edgy guide... No garantees thou. | 12:41 |
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| os2mac | Does it change the splash screen to an Ubuntu spash screen? | 12:41 |
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| os2mac | and if it does how do I change it back? | 12:42 |
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| tux | i tried with a edgy guide but it didnt work verry well | 12:42 |
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| tux | got error's at buildpkg | 12:42 |
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| mind_crusher[ro] | what's with the delay in the release of 7.04?> | 12:43 |
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| hephooey | I see feisty cds are already in the downloading mirrors, | 12:46 |
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| hephooey | but the torrent downloading does not work yet | 12:47 |
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| os2mac | thinking about installing Gnome on my Kubuntu release. I suspect that it will change my usplash to the ubuntu splash page. How do I back it up just in case, so I can restore it? | 12:47 |
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| hephooey | some unauthrized torrent error | 12:47 |
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| pollyo | os2mac: I have gnome on my kubuntu and didn't notice a change | 12:48 |
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| os2mac | it didn't change your login screen? | 12:48 |
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| pollyo | os2mac: I have the same splash when it loads and the same login screen. | 12:48 |
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| os2mac | OK... must have been an earlier version that did that. | 12:48 |
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| pollyo | os2mac: I have to click on the box to the left of name/password to select session type and other options. | 12:49 |
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| os2mac | Pollyo: I am sure your correct. I tried this in an earlier version and when I did it changed my login screen to an ubuntu login. Took me forever to figure out how to cange it back. | 12:51 |
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| os2mac | c/cange/change | 12:51 |
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| tux | hm i hae X.org version 7.2.x | 12:52 |
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| tux | and the ATI drivers only support 7.1.x | 12:53 |
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| hansen | is there a website with a changelog or whatever for kubuntu edgy updates? | 12:55 |
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| aztun | hi all | 12:59 |
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| arash | hi | 12:59 |
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| hnsn | hello fellow name | 01:01 |
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| hnsn | person | 01:01 |
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| orient2000 | just released http://ftp.rz.tu-bs.de/pub/mirror/ubuntu-cd-releases/7.04/ | 01:04 |
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| Sanne | orient2000: not official yet | 01:05 |
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| lupo | So there isn't going to be a cd-version of Feisty? | 01:05 |
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| lupo | or any sort of netinstall? | 01:05 |
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| aztun | there are no desktop-effects on kubuntu feisty? | 01:06 |
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| aztun | I cant find anything about desktop-effects en defaults menus | 01:06 |
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| aztun | and the utility "desktop-effects" isnt installed by default | 01:07 |
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| aztun | there is no support for compiz on kubuntu? | 01:07 |
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| orient2000 | I am downloading now. ubuntu.com is crowded | 01:07 |
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| Sanne | aztun: I heard it will be installed, but not on by default | 01:09 |
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| Sanne | aztun: I don't know especially for kubuntu | 01:09 |
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| Grexeo | orient2000: why are you downloading an old release? | 01:10 |
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| Grexeo | just wait for the final release... | 01:10 |
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| tux | no one got ATI drivers running on feisty? | 01:10 |
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| aztun | Sanne: I think is isnt even installed on kubuntu | 01:10 |
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| tux | kan find anything at the kubuntu website | 01:10 |
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| Sanne | aztun: hmmm, might be. Don't know really, I just some interview with Mark where he said it's installed, but turned off by default. But he was talking about Ubuntu. | 01:12 |
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| aztun | what a pain | 01:12 |
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| aztun | :/ | 01:12 |
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| Sanne | aztun: why shouldn't you be able to download it? I know anything about desktop effects, but the packages should surely be in the repositories? | 01:15 |
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| Sanne | aztun: s/know/don't know | 01:16 |
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| Sanne | aztun: seems interesting: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385234 | 01:17 |
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| MarkCh | hi all. i am a bit curious. why are you using kde instead of gnome? what are the features of kde that made you think its better? im planning to try out kde myself full-time today. | 01:17 |
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| Cugel | Mark: I like KDE because it looks good and works for me. | 01:18 |
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| Cugel | And some of the specific tools (Amarok, Konqueror) are better than Gnome versions, I believe. | 01:18 |
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| Cugel | But otherwise, I don't know. | 01:18 |
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| myky | i think that instalation beryl is easy :) but it is so hard | 01:18 |
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| Sanne | MarkCh: I like the high configurability of KDE and that it doesn't hide options from users. Some people are overwhelmed by all those options, so for them Gnome might be better. And also, I mostly use KDE apps, only some Gnome/Gtk apps. | 01:19 |
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| MarkCh | thanks cugel, what made you think it looks good btw. can't gnome emulate whatever looks kde can do? | 01:19 |
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| Skrotffs | MarkCh: I find it less claustrophobic. Gnome tend to hide advanced stuff away. Also I enjoy the KIO-slaves, the kpart-concept and lots of the apps like konversation, konqueror, amarok, etc | 01:20 |
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| aztun | Sanne: it right, packages are on repos | 01:20 |
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| Cugel | I don't know enough about gnome -- but I do know configuring KDE is easier. | 01:20 |
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| aztun | but the dont work well | 01:20 |
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| aztun | I think kubuntu developers havent tested it with kubuntu | 01:21 |
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| Sanne | MarkCh: also, I'm learning to program with python and Qt/KDE. I like the Qt and KDE toolkits very much, it all seems very well thought out and structured. | 01:21 |
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| Sanne | aztun: ah, good to know, thanks. | 01:21 |
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| MarkCh | sanne: yes. probably because they are made in c++. | 01:21 |
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| MarkCh | anyway, thanks for the replies guys. ill be using kde for a week and see if it works for me. :) | 01:22 |
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| Sanne | MarkCh: have fun :) | 01:22 |
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| aztun | I have installed it Sanne | 01:22 |
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| aztun | with an intel card | 01:22 |
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| MarkCh | dont worry, i will. XD | 01:22 |
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| Sanne | :) | 01:22 |
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| aztun | so I only should intall the package and activate it | 01:23 |
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| aztun | but it fails | 01:23 |
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| Skrotffs | Mark | 01:23 |
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| Skrotffs | err | 01:23 |
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| aztun | doesnt work well | 01:23 |
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| Skrotffs | MarkCh: Check out the kio-slaves if you're doing filebrowsing on remote places (ssh, samba, ftp, whatever) :> | 01:23 |
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| lupo | so is it released or not? | 01:23 |
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| lupo | kubuntu.org doesn't say anything yet | 01:23 |
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| Sanne | aztun: sorry to hear that. But I won't be able to help with that, sorry, I never tried it myself. | 01:23 |
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| Sanne | lupo: the topic in #ubuntu-release-party sais it is not | 01:24 |
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| pgquiles_ | lupo: torrents and .jigdo files are already available, ISOs are not (yet) | 01:24 |
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| aztun | Sanne: I think I hadnt done it right | 01:25 |
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| aztun | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/CompizOnFeisty?highlight=%28compiz%29%7C%28feisty%29 | 01:25 |
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| MarkCh | ok. gotta try kde now. bye! | 01:25 |
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| lupo | pgquiles_: where's the torrent file? | 01:25 |
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| aztun | it seems isnt enought installing just desktop-effects package | 01:25 |
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| aztun | donwloading right now........ | 01:25 |
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| Sanne | aztun: hmm, that instructions seem pretty easy. I hope you get it to work. | 01:26 |
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| malik__ | which one is better music player for audio files of different types for kubuntu edgy?.......amarok/juk/XMMS or if any one have any suggestion? | 01:26 |
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| pgquiles_ | lupo: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/7.04/ | 01:27 |
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| Sanne | malik__: I think it's a matter of preference. I like the cleanliness of xmms, most people find amarok awesome, best try them all :) | 01:27 |
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| myky | all: please help me to configure xgl and beryl | 01:27 |
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| Skrotffs | Are those the *final* ISO's? They're dated the 17th of april.. | 01:27 |
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| Sanne | malik__: so far xmms played everything I threw at it, at least after installing additional output modules sometimes. | 01:28 |
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| Sanne | !feisty | Skrotffs | 01:28 |
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| ubotu | Skrotffs: feisty is | 01:28 |
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| Sanne | huh? | 01:29 |
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| Sanne | !feisty | 01:29 |
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| Sanne | Skrotffs: dunno what's up witht he bot. It said a moment ago: The Feisty Fawn | FEISTY IS NOT RELEASED YET | 01:29 |
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| malik__ | but i have very bad sound comin outta my mp3z with xmms...........amarok is bit slow n lags alot of the time.........havent tried juk.........just lookin for something which will play audio files n wont lag | 01:30 |
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| Sanne | omg | 01:30 |
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| Sanne | !feisty | 01:30 |
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| Sanne | I just caught the moment!! | 01:30 |
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| lupo | pgquiles_: thanks | 01:30 |
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| Sanne | well, it's "soon", not "now"... | 01:31 |
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| Cugel | "will be released on ubuntu.com at 1pm today" -- it says here. | 01:32 |
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| dennis_ | hi! how can i install a java 6 jdk? | 01:33 |
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| mackyman | 1pm can be quite wide... Depending on timezones | 01:34 |
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| psb154 | dennis_ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-sdk | 01:34 |
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| Sanne | dennis_: I remember seeing it in the backports. Let me look. | 01:36 |
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| Cugel | Where do I find a/the script to upgrade Kubuntu? I'm unable to find it. | 01:36 |
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| psb154 | dennis_ thats jdk sorry | 01:36 |
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| myky | please help me install xgl on my notebook | 01:36 |
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| dennis_ | i use adept manager and i don't find a java 6 jdk there | 01:36 |
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| Sanne | dennis_: sun-java6-jdk in edgy-backports | 01:37 |
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| psb154 | dennis_ check your /ect/apt/sources.list you prolly just need to uncomment some debs. | 01:37 |
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| Sanne | dennis_: you need to have the backports repository enabled | 01:37 |
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| psb154 | then do a sudo apt-get update | 01:38 |
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| dennis_ | thx, it was not enabled in my repositories... | 01:38 |
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| dennis_ | i think now it will work, if i will have any problems i am back soon :) | 01:39 |
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| Sanne | dennis_: good luck :) | 01:39 |
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| dennis_ | Sanne: thx :) | 01:40 |
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| os2mac | pollyo are you still around? | 01:45 |
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| aspedia | hello all :) | 01:49 |
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| Sanne | hi :) | 01:50 |
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| aspedia | how can I see which home directory a user have? | 01:50 |
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| tux | did they just release feisty? | 01:50 |
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| Sanne | !feisty | 01:50 |
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| Cugel | Fast mirror of every release at ftp://ftpserv.tudelft.nl/d1/Linux/releases.ubuntu.com/feisty | 01:50 |
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| tux | not yet ... | 01:51 |
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| Sanne | tux: not yet | 01:51 |
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| aspedia | is there a users list command? | 01:52 |
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| JuJuBee | Morning. I have an old iMac G3 266Mhz from 1999 or so. Will Kubuntu run on it? | 01:52 |
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| sonoftheclayr | JuJuBee: yes it will, but extremely slowly, maybe xubuntu? | 01:53 |
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| Sanne | aspedia: I bet there's a command line way, I don't know. You can see it in System Settings-> Users & Groups, in Admin mode, when you click on modify for a user. | 01:53 |
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| sivaji | !feisty | 01:53 |
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| Sanne | aspedia: a list of users currently logged in you get with: users | 01:54 |
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| sivaji | !pastebin | 01:54 |
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| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) | 01:54 |
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| JuJuBee | OK, I will give it a try. | 01:54 |
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| aspedia | I dont have a X running on that machine, so I need a command | 01:54 |
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| Sanne | aspedia: ah | 01:54 |
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| livingdaylight | HAPPY BIRTHDAY FEISTY BAMBI !!! | 01:55 |
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| Sanne | aspedia: can you use a web browser now? I just found this, might help: http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugusers.html | 01:55 |
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| psb154 | jujubee damn small linux might be a better choice, if it runs on macs that is. | 01:56 |
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| gholm | hey guys, I have an Asus M2A-VM mboard and a AMD X2 6000 and kubuntu won't boot at all. Kernel panic etc etc. Main error says it "can't allocate resource region 1 of device blah blah" | 01:56 |
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| gholm | why? | 01:56 |
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| gholm | ati chipset? | 01:56 |
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| psb154 | gholm what version of kubuntu are you using? | 01:57 |
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| Sanne | gholm: first I would use memtest on the cd, let it run some hours and make sure there are no errors. | 01:58 |
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| gholm | psb154: 6.10 edgy eft, tried the generic 32bit one and the special AMD64 one | 01:58 |
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| gholm | Sanne: no mem errors, done it | 01:58 |
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| Sanne | gholm: ah, ok | 01:58 |
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| tux | but there are no drivers for the new x.org yet? | 01:59 |
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| Sanne | gholm: did you do the cd self check? | 01:59 |
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| aspedia | "find / -user username -ls" is a way to find a user | 02:00 |
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| gholm | Sanne: yeah, came out ok too | 02:00 |
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| aspedia | but I can not list all users | 02:00 |
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| gholm | Sanne: doesn't seem this vers likes ati | 02:00 |
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| sivaji | i got this error when i install feisty http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16383/ | 02:01 |
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| Sanne | gholm: then you could try the alternate cd, with a text based installer. Works better for some people. | 02:01 |
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| psb154 | gholm out of interest have you had success installing any other OS on that computer? | 02:01 |
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| Sanne | psb154: good question :) | 02:01 |
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| gholm | psb154: yup winxp (cringe) | 02:01 |
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| gholm | Sanne: tried the alternate amd installer. with all permutations of text vs OEM installer | 02:02 |
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| gholm | psb154: winxp works a treat | 02:02 |
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| Sanne | gholm: oh. then I'm out of ideas, sorry. next thing I would try is to search for your hardware in the forums, wiki, docs. Maybe somebody already has a solution. | 02:03 |
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| gholm | sanne, yeah all the forums indicate that the mboard is just not fit for linux yet... | 02:03 |
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| gholm | bugger | 02:03 |
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| psb154 | gholm could you try resetting the bios to defaults. | 02:03 |
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| Sanne | gholm: ah, then that may just be the case. Is it fairly new, then? | 02:04 |
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| gholm | psb154: it is | 02:04 |
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| psb154 | gholm what makes you think it might have something to do with ATI chipset? | 02:04 |
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| amigrave | would it help if I try to dist-upgrade a computer currently on kubuntu edgy to feisty ? I don't care if it's broken afterward. I don't know if feisty is already froozen, if yes I guess that feedback is welcome !? | 02:04 |
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| gholm | psb154: other forums | 02:04 |
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| psb154 | gholm can you disable the onboard graphics and try another card? | 02:05 |
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| gholm | psb154: no, I didn't mean ati graphics, I mean onboard chipset | 02:05 |
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| gholm | and no it ain't ati sorry, it's amd690 | 02:06 |
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| Sanne | amigrave: feisty is due out in less than some hours... | 02:06 |
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| pdroy | !mark | 02:06 |
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| ubotu | Mark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com | 02:06 |
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| JuJuBee | I have a shell script that configures iptables for me. How do I make this script run at startup since iptables entries are not permanent? | 02:08 |
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| Jisao | it`s already available, Sanne | 02:08 |
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| psb154 | gholm, might be worth trying another distribution. | 02:08 |
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| Sanne | Jisao: not officially | 02:08 |
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| Sanne | !feisty | 02:09 |
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| ubotu | Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn | 02:09 |
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| Jisao | Well, it's on gatech servers... | 02:09 |
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| gholm | psb154: yah, I'm a long time Mepis user, so I may try the latets of that | 02:09 |
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| Jisao | I just finished downloading it. | 02:09 |
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| Sanne | Jisao: what I meant was mainly that it surely is frozen, and beta testing might well be over ;) | 02:09 |
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| Sanne | Jisao: have fun :) I'm waiting. | 02:10 |
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| psb154 | gholm I hear good things about those motherboards too. | 02:10 |
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| gholm | psb154: damn shame I can't get kubuntu working on it yet | 02:10 |
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| Jisao | Well, as I have been running beta, it won't be a flabbergasting experience... | 02:10 |
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| Aarin | is the final version of kubuntu feisty released yet? | 02:11 |
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| Daisuke_Ido | not yet, soon | 02:11 |
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| gholm | gotta go, thanks psb154 and Sanne speak soon | 02:11 |
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| Sanne | gholm: bye :) | 02:11 |
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| Jisao | gholn, what chipset are you using | 02:11 |
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| Aarin | damn. so i've downloaded and burned a beta relese just now... | 02:12 |
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| gholm | Jisao: amd690 | 02:12 |
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| amigrave | Sanne: tought it was for 21th | 02:12 |
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| psb154 | bye gholm | 02:12 |
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| gholm | ciao | 02:12 |
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| Sanne | amigrave: no, it's today. Join the madness in #ubuntu-release-party :) | 02:12 |
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| amigrave | Sanne: YEAH ! | 02:12 |
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| Sanne | heh | 02:12 |
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| Aarin | ther isn't much diferente between RC and final right? | 02:12 |
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| amigrave | Sanne: is there something to drink in #ubuntu-release-party ? | 02:13 |
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| Sanne | Aarin: I would think so, and you can always update, so I won't worry much. | 02:13 |
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| Sanne | amigrave: sure, I got some tea, now I will bring some coffee and cookies ;) | 02:13 |
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| amigrave | Sanne: mhhhh no alcohol ?? I'll go in #wine then ;-) | 02:14 |
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| Jisao | Interesting problem that gholm has. I also have an amd with onboard chipset, and it can't run any *buntus. | 02:14 |
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| Sanne | amigrave: but you have to run windows to drink it ;) | 02:14 |
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| N6REJ | morning everyone | 02:15 |
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| amigrave | Sanne: you're right, and I heard that #wine is dangerous because of Balmer throwing chairs when he's drunk | 02:15 |
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| Sanne | amigrave: yeah, best bring your armour | 02:16 |
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| drkns | hello | 02:22 |
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| drkns | i need help again fellas | 02:22 |
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| drkns | anytime i want to install i am getting this error | 02:22 |
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| drkns | /shared/p80211types.c:88:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory | 02:23 |
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| drkns | ../shared/p80211types.c:89:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory | 02:23 |
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| drkns | ../shared/p80211types.c:90:20: error: string.h: No such file or directory | 02:23 |
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| drkns | the error goes on like this and end with error code2 | 02:23 |
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| drkns | has anyone any idea what i am missing here? | 02:24 |
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| drkns | when i wanted to install ndisrapper i got this error | 02:24 |
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| psb154 | drkns command are you using to install... whatever it is you are trying to install. | 02:24 |
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| drkns | now i am getting it with linux-wlan-ng-0.2.7 | 02:24 |
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| drkns | first i used configure and it worked fine | 02:25 |
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| drkns | and then i wrote make | 02:25 |
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| rubso | where the hell is my kubuntu ?!!! | 02:25 |
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| rubso | ahhhhhhh | 02:25 |
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| drkns | and it gives me this error | 02:25 |
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| psb154 | drkns ok so this is not an apt-get error. | 02:25 |
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| pucko- | can anyone tell me if there are any easy to use cd-ripping/mp3-encoding tools for kde other than kaudiocreator? | 02:25 |
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| drkns | i believe i am missing some files or? | 02:25 |
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| dognews | when will feisty be released today? | 02:26 |
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| drkns | nope i downloaded these packages from the web | 02:26 |
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| drkns | and unzipped them to a folder | 02:26 |
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| drkns | and open command line | 02:27 |
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| drkns | and get in to the folder | 02:27 |
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| drkns | and with sudo | 02:27 |
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| Sanne | !feisty | dognews | 02:27 |
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| ubotu | dognews: Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn | 02:27 |
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| psb154 | drkns so have you done a sudo apt-get install build-essential | 02:27 |
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| icecruncher | Sanne: when exactly? today is the 19 | 02:28 |
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| drkns | mkmetastruct.c:48:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory | 02:28 |
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| drkns | mkmetastruct.c:49:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory | 02:28 |
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| drkns | mkmetastruct.c:50:20: error: string.h: No such file or directory | 02:28 |
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| Sanne | drkns: are you sure the program you want to install is not in the ubuntu repositories? | 02:28 |
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| drkns | tis is the lates version i believe | 02:28 |
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| drkns | i installed ndisrapper from the aptget | 02:28 |
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| drkns | and it didnt do anything and i needed the latest version | 02:29 |
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| Sanne | icecruncher: how would I know? Hehe, that's the question all people at the party ask. The release manager said, less than some hours. | 02:29 |
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| drkns | and that wont install as well with the similar error | 02:29 |
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| icecruncher | Sanne: I'm already torrentuing kubuntu alternate, lol | 02:29 |
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| drkns | make[2] : *** [.depend] Error 1 | 02:29 |
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| drkns | make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/drkns/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.7/src/mkmeta' | 02:29 |
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| drkns | make[1] : *** [all] Error 2 | 02:29 |
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| Sanne | icecruncher: have fun :) (it's not official yet, though) | 02:30 |
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| icecruncher | Sanne: lol | 02:30 |
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| Sanne | drkns: it seems you need some development packages. | 02:30 |
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| nozey | no final isos yet? | 02:31 |
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| drkns | yes i suspect so | 02:31 |
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| Sanne | drkns: I would start with installing build-essential | 02:31 |
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| drkns | i have two wireless pcmcia card and i cant get both to work | 02:31 |
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| drkns | i am doing that sanne thanks | 02:31 |
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| Sanne | drkns: you're welcome | 02:32 |
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| icecruncher | Sanne: had desktop torrent going, no seeder nothing, just started 3 secs ago. lol | 02:33 |
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| drkns | i really like kubuntu i am using 7.04 beta and happy about it except for the wireless | 02:33 |
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| Sanne | icecruncher: I will wait | 02:33 |
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| icecruncher | hehe | 02:33 |
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| drkns | i cant get usr 5411 or smc 2532w-b to work yet | 02:34 |
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| Sanne | drkns: sorry to hear that. I don't use wireless, so I won't know specifics, sorry. | 02:34 |
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| drkns | no problem i am searching the net | 02:34 |
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| psb154 | drkns wireless is supposed to be improved with 7.04 :-/ That is what I am waiting for. I have wireless working on 6.10 but the trouble is WEP wont work. | 02:34 |
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| Sanne | drkns: also search ubuntuforums and the ubuntu wiki | 02:34 |
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| drkns | but it seems i am going to ditc them all and buy a new one that works with linux | 02:34 |
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| Sanne | drkns: that would be the best way, if you can. | 02:35 |
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| drkns | can you guys suggest any brand for me | 02:35 |
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| drkns | my ap is linksys wrt54gc | 02:35 |
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| ReTyPe | drkns, isn't there a linksys router based on linux ?? is that a wireless one ? | 02:36 |
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| drkns | what is | 02:38 |
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| drkns | superfluous localized | 02:38 |
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| drkns | man pages | 02:38 |
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| drkns | i do not know retype have to search | 02:38 |
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| drkns | oh wrt54gc is a wireless rounter but i dont know if its based on linux | 02:39 |
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| usamahashimi | is there any software which can solve matrices for me (like multiplying them or taking inverse etc) | 02:40 |
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| rec53 | usamahashimi: octave ? | 02:40 |
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| usamahashimi | rec53: lemme try | 02:41 |
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| N6REJ | any vmware experts around right now? | 02:42 |
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| N6REJ | !vmware | 02:43 |
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| ubotu | VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers | 02:43 |
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| drkns | sanne thanks again | 02:46 |
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| drkns | building essential worked fine but it seems i already have the wlan-ng but still wont work | 02:47 |
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| drkns | darn | 02:47 |
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| drkns | yep i am still waiting for a good 54g pcmcia card that works out of the box | 02:47 |
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| drkns | pls let me know fellas | 02:47 |
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| rubso | yo guys, how to enable restricted formats from one click as in Ubuntu 7.04? | 02:48 |
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| rebecca_sifwork | hmmm.. is the digg story correct? is 7.04 the final feisty release? | 02:48 |
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| malik__ | if i want to make amarok start automatically upon login do i make a link to "/usr/bin/amarok" or "/usr/bin/amarokapp" into autostart folder of ~.kde/Autostart.................since both of them start amarok but i dont know which one is better or proper option..........any suggestion is welcome. | 02:49 |
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| mackyman | malik__: I usually just don't close amarok upon shutdown | 02:50 |
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| mackyman | So it starts automaticly | 02:50 |
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| malik__ | oops sorry | 02:51 |
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| rebecca_sifwork | anyone? is 7.04 the real feisty release or i have been told lies? lol | 02:51 |
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| shaddow | anyone know about mtg?? | 02:51 |
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| drkns | becca it suppose to be | 02:51 |
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| malik__ | mackyman: i know but i dont wanna restart the last session......i want to start fresh session upon login thats why i am asking. | 02:52 |
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| BluesKaj | rebecca_sifwork, the 'official' Feisty release is reorted to be some time today ...I haven't seen it come up on adept alert yet | 02:52 |
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| YingFan | the dialog for choice of action on new devices, e.g. "open in new window" where are those (re)configured? | 02:52 |
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| BluesKaj | my version is still beta | 02:53 |
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| shaddow | plz tell me one magic the gathering channel | 02:53 |
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| drkns | i think they are going to release final sometime today | 02:53 |
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| drkns | i cant get wpa_supplicant to start whats wrong damn wireless | 02:53 |
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| rebecca_sifwork | drkns: ok | 02:53 |
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| malik__ | so we are talkin about the final release of fiesty sometime today?..............will it be the one with three years support or 18 months? | 02:54 |
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| BluesKaj | usually 6 mos apart | 02:54 |
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| BluesKaj | oh support is 18 mos I believe | 02:55 |
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| malik__ | so ist not the LTS version then? | 02:56 |
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| Aarin | its more probable that the 7.10 version will be the lts | 02:57 |
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| mackyman | malik__: kk... Well... I don't =P So I don't know ;) | 02:57 |
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| malik__ | mackyman: thats oki thanks any ways for suggesting | 02:58 |
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| rebecca_sifwork | BluesKaj: is that a no? or yes but it just hasn't filtered through all systems yet? | 02:59 |
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| BluesKaj | rebecca_sifwork, join the #ubuntu-release-party ...the ppl there are saying it hasn't been officaily released yet | 03:01 |
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| excitatory | question for kde/beryl users, is it possible to configure the taskbar to only show applications from the desktop/cube-face that one is currently viewing? it seems rather pointless, and incredibly annoying to show all apps on the taskbar; makes me wonder what the point of the multiple desktops really is in beryl.. | 03:01 |
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| malik__ | so what do a person like me do ...........to upgrade or update to fiest final version.......im using edgy 6.10 kubuntu | 03:01 |
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| yaccin | http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ | 03:02 |
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| rebecca_sifwork | BluesKaj: okay. thanks :) | 03:02 |
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| yaccin | exait is | 03:02 |
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| yaccin | excitatory: | 03:03 |
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| psb154 | getting it!! | 03:03 |
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| malik__ | sec question, is fiesty being released with Koffice instead of OpenOffice? | 03:03 |
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| yaccin | how long for Kubuntu feisty release? | 03:03 |
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| excitatory | yaccin, ? | 03:03 |
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| yaccin | excitatory: it is possible with beryl | 03:03 |
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| toe | excitatory: Yes, I used to have svn-version of Beryl. There is a compiz-windowbar (or named sth. alike) which is what you want. | 03:03 |
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| yaccin | you need taskbar-compiz if i remember correctly | 03:03 |
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| pgquiles__ | no jigdo files for desktop, wierd | 03:03 |
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| sivaji | !pastebin | 03:04 |
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| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) | 03:04 |
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| toe | yaccin is correct: taskbar-compiz was the name | 03:04 |
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| yaccin | yay :) | 03:04 |
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| pdroy | !mako | 03:04 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about mako - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 03:04 |
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| yaccin | http://kubuntu.com/download.php#latest << feisty isnt beta anymore? | 03:04 |
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| yaccin | o.O | 03:04 |
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| pdroy | !hill | 03:05 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about hill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 03:05 |
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| pdroy | !benjamin | 03:05 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about benjamin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 03:05 |
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| sivaji | dpkg error ple help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16393/ | 03:05 |
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| pollyo | Did they put the final release up yet? | 03:05 |
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| inferno_ | how to change file permissions as root in terminal/konsole | 03:06 |
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| yaccin | will there be a DVD iso? | 03:06 |
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| yaccin | inferno_: man chmod | 03:06 |
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| icecruncher | yaccin #ubuntu-release-party | 03:06 |
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| psb154 | inferno_ you could apt-get mc | 03:06 |
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| psb154 | mc excellent console file manager | 03:07 |
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| icecruncher | k3b 1 is out. yeah! | 03:09 |
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| icecruncher | lol | 03:09 |
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| dhq | fdoving: i upgraded to fiesty now my vmware doesnt work | 03:09 |
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| pgquiles__ | !feisty | 03:10 |
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| zorglu_ | i got a kubuntu edgy and his got this 'lets show only part of the root file' i know there is a page about it but i dont remember the name of it, any hint ? | 03:10 |
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| ubotu | Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn | 03:10 |
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| sivaji | sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a | 03:11 |
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| sivaji | Setting up xfonts-scalable (1.0.0-6) ... | 03:11 |
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| sivaji | Invalid string keyword: chassis-type | 03:11 |
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| sivaji | Valid string keywords are: | 03:11 |
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| sivaji | bios-vendor | 03:11 |
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| sivaji | bios-version | 03:11 |
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| sivaji | bios-release-date | 03:11 |
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| asdfjkloe | whats the difference between the cd and the dvd version? i mean the package is MUCH bigger, about 2.8 gigs | 03:11 |
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| zorglu_ | asdfjkloe: it is because cd version is to be put on cd, the other on dvd | 03:12 |
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| zorglu_ | asdfjkloe: and cd allows much less space than dvd | 03:12 |
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| BrokenLinux | !thunderbird | 03:12 |
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| ubotu | a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation. To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427 | 03:12 |
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| aztun | re | 03:12 |
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| aztun | finally I had to install beryl on my kubuntu feisty | 03:13 |
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| zorglu_ | !hidden | 03:13 |
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| ubotu | Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) | 03:13 |
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| asdfjkloe | zorglu_ ... i know that. but the dvd version mustnt be the full size that fits on dvd to be a dvd version... | 03:13 |
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| pdroy | asdfjkloe: the dvd has lot more stuff than the CD version., good if you dont have an internet connection | 03:13 |
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| BrokenLinux | Anyone know if there's a 2.0 thunderbird deb package? | 03:13 |
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| aztun | in order to get desktop-effects | 03:13 |
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| inferno_ | what to mode to give to chmod to make file exetucatble and writable by all users | 03:13 |
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| icecruncher | how do you install the google toolbar? | 03:13 |
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| inferno_ | like an everyones folder | 03:13 |
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| asdfjkloe | zorglu_ so? | 03:14 |
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| zorglu_ | asdfjkloe: ? | 03:15 |
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| asdfjkloe | zorglu_ whats the difference between the cd and the dvd version? i mean the package is MUCH bigger, about 2.8 gigs | 03:15 |
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| dhq | i upgraded to fiesty now my vmware doesnt work | 03:16 |
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| asdfjkloe | zorglu_ ... i know that. but the dvd version mustnt be the full size that fits on dvd to be a dvd version... | 03:16 |
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| zorglu_ | asdfjkloe: hue ? i believe you already knew | 03:16 |
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| zorglu_ | asdfjkloe: dvd bigger than cd | 03:17 |
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| zorglu_ | asdfjkloe: so dvd image bigger than cd image | 03:17 |
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| zorglu_ | asdfjkloe: but you already knew, so i dont understand why you reask the same question several time ifyou already know :) | 03:17 |
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| odin-arg | feisty out today, is there an updater from edgy to feisty? | 03:17 |
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| zorglu_ | once is already strange enought :) | 03:17 |
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| N6REJ | any vmware users around? | 03:20 |
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| N6REJ | dhq: did you use server or player version? | 03:21 |
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| pgquiles__ | Riddell: ping | 03:21 |
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| Riddell | hi pgquiles__ | 03:22 |
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| icecruncher | what is the command to rename a file? lol | 03:22 |
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| dhq | N6REJ: server | 03:22 |
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| pgquiles__ | Riddell: hi. Why no .jigdo for the desktop ISO? | 03:22 |
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| N6REJ | dhq: you need a file called any-any that patches vmware server to make the config work I think. | 03:22 |
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| N6REJ | dhq: but I'm new to that software... I'm reading that player is all that is needed, so I'm confused now. | 03:23 |
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| dhq | N6REJ: where can i get it | 03:23 |
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| N6REJ | let me look. | 03:23 |
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| dhq | N6REJ: thanks | 03:23 |
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| Riddell | pgquiles__: jigdo doesn't work like that, it needs .debs to download | 03:24 |
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| mcquaid | i used to get excited about a new release but since I've switched to kde (with reps being available with the latest) I don't see so much of a need to upgrade | 03:25 |
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| mcquaid | does feisty have a newer version of kde than the reps available for edgy? | 03:25 |
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| mcquaid | not talking about the kde version that ships with edgy, as I'm using the unofficial reps that keep kde up to date. | 03:25 |
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| N6REJ | dhq http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/ | 03:25 |
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| toe | mcquaid: no | 03:25 |
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| toe | 3.5.6 | 03:25 |
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| mcquaid | ya thats what i'm running | 03:26 |
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| pgquiles__ | Riddell: I know, but there are .jigdo files for -alternate and -server. Why not for -desktop? | 03:26 |
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| mcquaid | so i'll wait awhile i guess for feisty | 03:26 |
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| mcquaid | cause it's just a huge upgrade to have basically the same thing | 03:26 |
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| toe | for kubuntu users feisty doesn't bring that much of new & exciting stuff with it | 03:26 |
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| Riddell | pgquiles__: I just said, it needs .debs to download | 03:26 |
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| dhq | N6REJ: which one to downloas | 03:27 |
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| dhq | download | 03:27 |
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| N6REJ | dhq: down at the bottom look for vmware-any-any | 03:28 |
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| dhq | ok | 03:28 |
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| N6REJ | dhq: I don't know what it does other then patch the kernels and such. | 03:28 |
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| icecruncher | help | 03:28 |
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| pgquiles__ | Riddell: -alternate and -server also need .debs to download and they do have a .jigdo. The question is, why is it possible to create a .jigdo for -server and -alternate but not for -desktop? | 03:28 |
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| icecruncher | Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit | 03:28 |
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| dhq | N6REJ: http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/vmware-any-any-update109.tar.gz | 03:29 |
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| Riddell | pgquiles__: because the desktop CD is not made of .debs | 03:29 |
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| odin-arg | halp :[ - there is no such program on kubuntu as "update-manager -c -d" how do i upgrade to feisty? :[ | 03:29 |
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| pgquiles__ | Riddell: ah, ok :-) What is it made of? | 03:30 |
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| Riddell | pgquiles__: a loopback filesystem | 03:32 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 03:33 |
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| pgquiles__ | Riddell: thank you | 03:33 |
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| tdn | How do I see my CPU/System temperature in Ubuntu/Kubuntu? I have a Pentium 4. What do I need to do? | 03:36 |
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| gord | Probably been asked three dozen times but where is the option to turn off the bouncing mouse icon when a program is started? | 03:43 |
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| gord | Probably been asked three dozen (and one) times but where is the option to turn off the bouncing mouse icon when a program is started? | 03:45 |
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| LastMall | gord good question | 03:46 |
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| gord | I've turned off the "Visual feedback on activation" option but the damn thing is still on | 03:47 |
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| spawn57 | gord, try using kcontrol | 03:52 |
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| spawn57 | it's under appearance & themes -> launch feedback | 03:52 |
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| BluesKaj | I'm having probs with kubuntu shutdown , X keeps cycling off and on after logout .. I have to turn the power off manually ...any suggestions ? | 03:53 |
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| duanerb | eeerggh | 03:53 |
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| duanerb | I hate the control panel | 03:53 |
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| Peaker | BluesKaj: what happens if you "sudo reboot" ? | 03:53 |
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| gord | Thanks spawn! :-) | 03:53 |
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| duanerb | how can i change the kdm theme? | 03:53 |
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| BluesKaj | Peaker, dunno | 03:54 |
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| duanerb | BluesKaj: try "sudo shutdown -h now" | 03:54 |
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| icecruncher | feisty is out! | 03:54 |
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| icecruncher | !java | 03:56 |
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| ubotu | To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier. | 03:56 |
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| odin-arg | :o | 03:56 |
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| odin-arg | !upgrade | 03:56 |
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| ubotu | See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) | 03:56 |
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| odin-arg | nein | 03:57 |
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| odin-arg | the other one :[ | 03:57 |
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| icecruncher | how can i upgrade from jre1.4 to 1.5? | 03:57 |
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| jbruckman | !jre | 03:58 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 03:58 |
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| jbruckman | !java | 03:58 |
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| ubotu | To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier. | 03:58 |
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| BluesKaj | ok, sudo shutdown -h now" worked . Where do I save that command to make it permamnent ? | 03:58 |
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| calvarez | it's out! | 03:58 |
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| jbruckman | !java | icecruncher | 03:59 |
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| ubotu | icecruncher: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier. | 03:59 |
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| icecruncher | woo! | 03:59 |
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| jbruckman | ;) | 03:59 |
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| psb154 | icecruncher, once you have the java you want try: update-alternatives --config java | 04:00 |
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| icecruncher | k | 04:01 |
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| drkns | hello | 04:02 |
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| drkns | i am trying to install the latest version of gimp and getting this error on config | 04:02 |
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| drkns | hecking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is require d for intltool | 04:03 |
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| fdoving | drkns: you need libxml-parser-perl | 04:03 |
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| drkns | thanks | 04:04 |
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| joaquin | cual es el servidor de los espaoles | 04:04 |
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| joaquin | alguien lo sabe | 04:04 |
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| hak5fan | Is there a way to restore kmix default settings | 04:05 |
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| jbruckman | hak5fan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kmix | 04:05 |
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| jbruckman | should do it | 04:06 |
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| jackagua | cual es el servidor para los espaoles? | 04:06 |
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| jbruckman | !es | 04:06 |
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| ubotu | Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda. | 04:06 |
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| jackagua | gracias | 04:06 |
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| jbruckman | :) | 04:06 |
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| hak5fan | jbruckman: It didn't work, but thanks anyway | 04:08 |
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| nozey | http://espelhos.edugraf.ufsc.br/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/feisty/ -> is this the final version? | 04:08 |
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| jbruckman | hak5fan: sorry it didn't work. :) | 04:09 |
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| icecruncher | help, my java is totaly messed up, i'll uninstall, then what should I install? | 04:09 |
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| psb154 | icecruncher, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk | 04:10 |
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| ma3x | where can I download kubuntu? | 04:10 |
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| ma3x | the site doesnt work!!! | 04:10 |
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| psb154 | icecruncher, or sun-java6-jre if you just want the runtime | 04:11 |
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| icecruncher | psb154L: i instaklled that earlier, but the old one is still active | 04:11 |
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| icecruncher | *installed | 04:11 |
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| psb154 | icecruncher, try: update-alternatives --config java | 04:11 |
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| hak5fan | jbruckman: Yes, I a little agry with linux and my self right now, because I can't get my printer working (samba shared) and I can't talk to my cousin because my mic doesn't work. I know it's working hardware wise because It worked yesterday but with a very low volume so I changed something and now it's "broken" | 04:11 |
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| hak5fan | jbruckman: but I refuse to leave ubuntu | 04:11 |
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| ma3x | hellooooooooooo | 04:11 |
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| ma3x | wtf do I get kubuntu? | 04:12 |
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| hak5fan | ma3x: Are you allready running ubuntu? | 04:12 |
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| spawn57 | you go to google, you type kubuntu...and...ah nm | 04:13 |
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| icecruncher | psb154: thanks a lot, :) working | 04:13 |
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| psb154 | good stuff. :-) | 04:13 |
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| ma3x | hak5fan: NO | 04:13 |
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| icecruncher | psb154: how can I remove the old stuff? unneeded stuff | 04:13 |
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| ma3x | is kubuntu 6 10 the newest/? | 04:13 |
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| hak5fan | ma3x: yes but 7.04 will be out very soon... | 04:14 |
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| psb154 | icecruncher, you would: sudo apt-get remove [packageName] | 04:14 |
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| spawn57 | ma3x: naw 7.04 is lol | 04:14 |
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| EvilIdler | Wow, this is what I call a hammered server. Any .nyud.net repository mirrors? :P | 04:14 |
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| ma3x | sparrw: is it out already?? | 04:14 |
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| icecruncher | psb154: and how would i fing out all the names? | 04:15 |
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| hak5fan | ma3x: Not really as far as i've heard, but you can get it somewhere it's very close to the realease version | 04:15 |
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| spawn57 | icecruncher: dpkg -l for a list of instaleld packages, you might wanna try using adept instead | 04:16 |
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| psb154 | icecruncher, update-alternatives --config java should give you a clue to what is installed, with regards to java. Or man apt-get that might have something that would help. | 04:16 |
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| hak5fan | Is there a way to restore kmix default settings? since dpkg-reconfigure kmix didn't work I don't know what to do............. | 04:17 |
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| spawn57 | hak5fan: default settings? | 04:17 |
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| icecruncher | psb154: you've been a lot of help, thanks | 04:18 |
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| drkns | hello again | 04:18 |
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| psb154 | no prob. thanks for acknowledgment :-) | 04:18 |
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| drkns | i am trying to install gimp and getting this error now | 04:18 |
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| drkns | GLIB is incorrectly installed. | 04:18 |
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| drkns | configure: error: Test for GLIB failed. | 04:18 |
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| drkns | which package do i need to install since when i look for glib manythings come up | 04:19 |
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| IdleOne | !info kvirc | 04:19 |
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| ubotu | kvirc: KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.4-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2871 kB, installed size 8644 kB | 04:19 |
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| icecruncher | Happy Feisty everyone!! | 04:19 |
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| odin-arg | woo :D | 04:20 |
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| hak5fan | spawn57: yes. I want to restore the kmix sttings to default. To be more precise, I want to set the config exactly the same as it was when I installed it | 04:20 |
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| hak5fan | spawn57: becuase I screwed something up | 04:20 |
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| BishiNightBird | wooo! | 04:21 |
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| BluesKaj | MOTD at ubuntu-release-party : FEISTY IS RELEASED! | 04:21 |
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| BishiNightBird | that it has been | 04:22 |
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| spawn57 | hak5fan:ah, you can go into your ~/.kde/share/config and rename your kmixrtrlrc and kmixrc files, and restart kmix. That *should* work | 04:22 |
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| === ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : Kubuntu Support Channel | Feisty Out! http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please |
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| spawn57 | ..feisty still doesnt' turn off desktop icons | 04:22 |
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| spawn57 | even when I turn it off kcontrol =( | 04:22 |
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| BishiNightBird | good luck for getting any of the websites to load... | 04:23 |
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| BishiNightBird | probably much less adept downloading updates... | 04:23 |
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| WillLuongo | Hello, when I upgraded to Mozilla Firefox's newest version (from Mozilla) it no longer launches as the default web browser. What can I do to fix this? | 04:23 |
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| odin-arg | how long will it take for adept to inform us of update? | 04:24 |
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| BluesKaj | WillLuongo, sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser | 04:25 |
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| WillLuongo | BluesKaj: Thank you | 04:25 |
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| BluesKaj | :) | 04:25 |
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| BluesKaj | odin-arg, dunno ...wondering that myself | 04:26 |
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| WillLuongo | BluesKaj: I did that, but it still doesn't work correctly. | 04:26 |
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| BluesKaj | did you choose the number beside FF ? | 04:26 |
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| cyt | WillLuongo: Can't we just sudo aptitupde update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade? | 04:27 |
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| WillLuongo | BluesKaj: Yes, and it lists it as the default (with the star) | 04:27 |
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| BluesKaj | make sure FF isn't loaded | 04:27 |
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| neonlinux | ok.. first problems with feisty.. i get hang on the install at configuring wvdial (i have to kill the process to continue) and after the install finshes i get a blank screen (ati card).. i have to use terminal and install the ati drivers before i can get a gui | 04:28 |
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| hak5fan | spawn57: I did what you told me. Renamed the files and rightclicced kmix icon and chose shutdown then I restarted kmix and for some reason it didn't work. I think I might need to reboot or something.. The strange thing is. The files are recreated | 04:28 |
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| Cugel | Yay | 04:28 |
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| spawn57 | hak5fan: yeah it creates the files automaticially, that's normal. I was hoping that would fix it | 04:29 |
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| BluesKaj | hak5fan, have you considered alsa ? | 04:29 |
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| Cugel | "In Adept -> Manage Repositories enable edgy-updates" -- what does that mean? I don't understand it. | 04:29 |
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| bobesponja | kubuntu.org seems very slow | 04:29 |
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| BluesKaj | bobesponja, of course ...it's being flooded | 04:30 |
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| hak5fan | BluesKaj: Alsa runs. kmix is to my knowlege only a gui but I might be wrong | 04:30 |
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| WillLuongo | cyt, BluesKaj: That updated some X11 stuff, but it did not change anything with the webbrowser. | 04:30 |
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| bobesponja | BluesKaj: I can't get the link to the iso | 04:30 |
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| WillLuongo | cyt, BluesKaj: It stopped working when I installed Firefox from Mozilla instead of from Adept, or apt-get. I wanted it to be able to do the automatic updates from mozilla rather than waiting for the packages to come in adept. | 04:31 |
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| BluesKaj | hak5 "alsamixer" in the konsole | 04:32 |
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| odin-arg | it works! | 04:32 |
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| odin-arg | adept knows feisty is out!! | 04:32 |
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| odin-arg | :D | 04:32 |
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| odin-arg | :D | 04:32 |
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| odin-arg | :D | 04:32 |
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| BluesKaj | WillLuongo, did you enter the number beside FF in the terminal after the command ? | 04:33 |
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| WillLuongo | BluesKaj: yes, and it has the default star next to it. | 04:33 |
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| BluesKaj | does FF open at all ? | 04:34 |
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| WillLuongo | BluesKaj: Yes, it opens and runs just fine, just it doesn't open from clicking links from other apps. | 04:34 |
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| hak5fan | I've got my mic working now... but with very low volume. How can I make it louder when the mic settings in kmix is set to full? | 04:35 |
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| BluesKaj | yeah WillLuongo, I had the same problem , you still may have to make sure it's the default browser in FF edit/preferences/main | 04:36 |
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| WillLuongo | BluesKaj: I did that, it doesn't have any effect on the problem... :( | 04:37 |
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| francesca | hi, i've got a 64 bit intel processor, is there any reason why i shouldn't install kubuntu 64 bit? | 04:38 |
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| hak5fan | And suddenly it's not working anymore wtf. And yes it's not a hardware fault because my mic works great in windblows | 04:38 |
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| BluesKaj | sorry WillLuongo, that's the extent of my knowledge ...other than try a reboot then see what happens | 04:38 |
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| hak5fan | My mic is really driving me mad | 04:40 |
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| woodb | is the fiesty torrent in the repos the final fiesty? (the file date is today, but the iso's alongside the torrent are a few days old) | 04:40 |
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| BluesKaj | the repos don't have the updates yet ...adept is behind the curve | 04:41 |
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| BluesKaj | hak5fan, try 'alsamixer' in the terminal ...make your adjustments there | 04:42 |
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| woodb | announcing the release before the repos have it is sorta cruel ya know :) | 04:42 |
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| cloned | I am following the update page to go from edgy to feisty, i have the updates repo enabled but i do not get the updater and full upgrade in adapt remains grayed out any thoughts | 04:43 |
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| BluesKaj | well , there 750 ppl in the "party" chat waiting to jump on the torrent , FTP, and HTTP , downloads | 04:44 |
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| hak5fan | BluesKaj: For some reason it works now.,.... lol this is wierd | 04:44 |
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| abattoir | cloned: following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades#head-6146e7b1dd7a50f5029fd0704e38cad9420c000a ? | 04:45 |
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| cloned | yes | 04:46 |
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| abattoir | cloned: did you click 'Fetch Updates' after enabling that repo? | 04:46 |
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| cloned | yes | 04:47 |
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| tictactatic | hi, anybody tried the dist upgrade instructions? | 04:47 |
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| cloned | im trying them now | 04:48 |
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| abattoir | cloned: you could either restart adept, and go through that routine again, or pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list | 04:48 |
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| tictactatic | i've followed them, but can't see the Version Upgrade button | 04:48 |
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| cloned | same here | 04:48 |
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| cloned | i cant find it anywhere | 04:48 |
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| abattoir | hmm... | 04:49 |
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| tictactatic | has anyone seen it? | 04:49 |
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| cloned | ive never seen it | 04:49 |
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| abattoir | tictactatic, cloned: are your edgy systems up-to-date? | 04:50 |
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| cloned | yep updated thismorning | 04:50 |
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| Cugel | Yay, I get the upgrade wizard! | 04:50 |
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| tictactatic | ye | 04:50 |
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| tictactatic | yep | 04:50 |
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| cloned | hrm | 04:50 |
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| tictactatic | how? | 04:50 |
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| Cugel | Adept -- run it _twice_. | 04:50 |
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| Cugel | "Welcome to Ubuntu 7.04 'Feisty Fawn'" -- I'm scared to hit 'next'. | 04:51 |
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| abattoir | Cugel: you mean you closed it and restarted it? | 04:51 |
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| Cugel | Yes. And run fetch updates etc. | 04:51 |
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| Cugel | Question: can I leave everything running while it's upgrading/installing? I'm from Windows, so therefore the question. | 04:51 |
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| abattoir | tictactatic, cloned: ^^^^ could you guys try that? | 04:51 |
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| tictactatic | i just did it | 04:52 |
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| tictactatic | quit adept, start again | 04:52 |
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| Cugel | Well, the tool is running! | 04:52 |
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| spawn57 | Cugel: what tool? | 04:52 |
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| instructor | Cugel: sure | 04:52 |
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| tictactatic | heck, i can even kill the session | 04:52 |
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| Cugel | Distribution upgrade. | 04:52 |
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| abattoir | tictactatic: and pressed Full Upgrade again? | 04:52 |
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| tictactatic | and try running adept again | 04:52 |
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| spawn57 | Cugel: yeah leave it running | 04:52 |
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| tictactatic | abattoir: there is nothing to upgrade | 04:52 |
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| spawn57 | Cugel: just reboot after it's done | 04:53 |
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| cloned | fetching updates... | 04:53 |
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| BrokenLinux | I hit fetch updates and get nothing, same as tict | 04:53 |
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| amigrave | I didn't had to quit and restart adept | 04:53 |
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| Cugel | "1021 packages are going to be upgraded" -- :-D | 04:53 |
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| amigrave | but I has an update from wine repository, maybe it makes the difference | 04:53 |
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| cloned | nothing | 04:53 |
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| abattoir | tictactatic: did you upgrade KDE to 3.5.6? | 04:54 |
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| cloned | same as before | 04:54 |
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| abattoir | cloned: ^^^ | 04:54 |
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| tictactatic | yep, ages ago | 04:54 |
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| Cugel | Well, I started getting the packages. Quite a few. | 04:54 |
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| WillLuongo | I hit fetch updates and it immediately went to the update Kubuntu prompt | 04:54 |
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| tictactatic | and abattoir i enabled the repository | 04:54 |
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| denzuko | hi | 04:54 |
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| tictactatic | i.e. added it | 04:54 |
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| cloned | totaly up to date im on kde 5.47 | 04:54 |
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| abattoir | cloned: ??? | 04:55 |
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| amigrave | cloned: how is Qt 5 looking ? | 04:55 |
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| abattoir | tictactatic: could you run 'sudo apt-get update' and see if updates are being fetched from edgy-updates and the 3.5.6 repo? | 04:56 |
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| tictactatic | ok | 04:56 |
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| HymnToLife | [16:54] <cloned> totaly up to date im on kde 5.47 <= wow, could you loan me your DeLorean someday ? :p | 04:56 |
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| firecrotch | is kubuntu.org loading at barely a crawl for everyone else? | 04:57 |
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| cloned | sez candidate version: 5:47 | 04:57 |
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| cloned | kde base 4:3.4.3 | 04:58 |
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| BluesKaj | firecrotch, it's what we should expect today | 04:58 |
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| HymnToLife | KDE 3.4.3 is definitely not up to date :p | 04:58 |
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| abattoir | cloned: try Helop->About KDE | 04:58 |
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| space_ninja | is there a new version of kubuntu? | 04:58 |
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| abattoir | *Help | 04:58 |
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| tictactatic | abattoir: and all, sorry, starting adept again, hitting on the fetch updates again | 04:58 |
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| tictactatic | now i got the wizard | 04:59 |
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| abattoir | tictactatic: oh, ok, cool | 04:59 |
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| abattoir | space_ninja: yeah, Kubuntu 7.04 was released a while ago | 04:59 |
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| cloned | i never said it was im just saying the extra repo for thae latest version of kde has not been added and does not apply to my update scheme that is not working | 04:59 |
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| BluesKaj | no upgrades to the officail release available in North America yet | 04:59 |
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| BrokenLinux | tictactatic: did it work after running apt-get update? | 04:59 |
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| BluesKaj | err official | 05:00 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | a banner day for me and linux | 05:00 |
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| tictactatic | BrokenLinux: never got to that | 05:00 |
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| Gh0st75 | hello folks | 05:00 |
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| BrokenLinux | tictactatic: what did you do that made it work? | 05:00 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | i finally go the go-ahead from my fiancee to install kubuntu on her laptop (even if it is dual boot) AND feisty gets released :D | 05:00 |
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| instructor | Daisuke_IPFW: How so? | 05:00 |
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| Gh0st75 | anyone know if k3b can burn to DL DVDs? | 05:00 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | Gh0st75: with growisofs | 05:01 |
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| tictactatic | BrokenLinux: started adept again, then told it to fetch updates, then finally the wizard popped up | 05:01 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | i believe | 05:01 |
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| BluesKaj | Daisuke_IPFW, adept still hasn't got the repos upgraded to the 'Official' release | 05:01 |
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| BrokenLinux | ahh, I've done that like 5 times! | 05:01 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | i always get notes about that, but since i don't burn DLs, meh | 05:01 |
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| Gh0st75 | i try to copy a list of files totalling 7.9gb and it only seems to have room for 4.4gb | 05:01 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | BluesKaj: i'm gonna download the iso and do it that way | 05:01 |
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| tictactatic | BrokenLinux: did you hit on fetch updates, though? | 05:01 |
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| N6REJ | how do you "map" a smb share? I can make a link to it on my desktop but I want it to be automatically reachable by all apps. | 05:02 |
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| N6REJ | like amarok | 05:02 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | kioslaves | 05:02 |
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| Cugel | Do fetch updates and get all. The quit adept and run it again, and do again 'fetch updates'. It worked for me. | 05:02 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | smb:/ | 05:02 |
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| BrokenLinux | tictactatic: yes | 05:02 |
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| duanerb | auuugh | 05:02 |
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| tictactatic | that was the step i hadn't done, since i assumed i had updated all previously | 05:02 |
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| duanerb | amarok deleted all of the music on my ipod :( | 05:02 |
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| N6REJ | Daisuke_IPFW: I don't understand. | 05:03 |
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| BluesKaj | Cugel, I'm on Festy beta | 05:03 |
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| firecrotch | duanerb: But you have it all backed up, right? | 05:03 |
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| BluesKaj | err Feisty beta | 05:03 |
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| BrokenLinux | I've added deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/ edgy main to my repos and it just times out when fetch updates gets there | 05:03 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | i'm having a litle battle. install vs. batery life, because i had to pick the ONE study area in the entire building *without* a power outlet. | 05:03 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | ...though that would explain why it wasn't being used :\ | 05:03 |
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| Cugel | broken: try again (a few times if necessary :-) | 05:04 |
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| Cugel | I think we're all crossing ourselves here. But I'm at file 254 out of 1110. | 05:04 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | !kioslaves | 05:04 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about kioslaves - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:04 |
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| clickwir | I prefer vim's %s/edgy/feisty/s method of upgrading. | 05:04 |
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| intelikey | anyone know why "mount" would show "udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)" when i don't use udev ? | 05:05 |
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| intelikey | and /dev is the static "on disk" devices ^ | 05:05 |
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| space_ninja | what's wrong with kubuntu's webpage+ | 05:05 |
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| firecrotch | space_ninja: It's getting hammered right now, so it's not loading | 05:06 |
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| intelikey | could that be left over from the initramfs ? | 05:06 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | oh, and at least at this school, a great reason to use linux over windows: for wireless access in windows you have to install an app that literally takes over your wireless, whereas with linux it's a matter of starting wpa_supplicant :) | 05:07 |
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| tictactatic | damn, it's stuck fetching file 124 of 128 at the Preparing the upgrade stage | 05:07 |
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| tictactatic | abattoir: you think i should kill it? | 05:07 |
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| tictactatic | and try again? | 05:07 |
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| compilerwriter | ati7500 and I are trying to get him setup with connection sharing: I have tried to help him following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370&highlight=internet+connection+share could someone please take a look and advise? | 05:08 |
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| clickwir | tictactatic: sure. it'll pickup where it left off | 05:08 |
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| tictactatic | ok | 05:08 |
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| intelikey | hmmmp upgrade day. i'll come back in a weak or two. | 05:08 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | i can't say i blame him | 05:08 |
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| tictactatic | heh | 05:09 |
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| BluesKaj | yeah , once ppl have their upgrades installed, this chat is gonna be one busy beehive :) | 05:09 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | well, it usualy is anyway | 05:09 |
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| abattoir | tictactatic: sorry, was afk, guess it's timing out because of the huge load | 05:09 |
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| xt{c} | hey folks, where can I download the new kubuntu? (kubuntu.org is inaccessible) | 05:09 |
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| acidBURN | saw that | 05:10 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | my guess would be to wait a while, because the servers are getting hammered | 05:10 |
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| abattoir | xt{c}: which part of the world are you from(so i could get you the link for a mirror close-by) ? | 05:10 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | ah, mirrors :D | 05:10 |
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| xt{c} | slaughterhouse: georgia, usa | 05:11 |
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| BluesKaj | xt{c},http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent | 05:11 |
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| abattoir | :) | 05:11 |
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| Cugel | So far it's still working, almost halfway there. My network card should now be automatically supported by the kernel. I'm prepared for problems. | 05:12 |
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| xt{c} | BluesKaj...i want kubuntu | 05:12 |
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| xt{c} | gnome makes me nauseous | 05:12 |
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| firecrotch | I'm working on getting a i386 CD mirror up | 05:12 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | xt{c}: so install that then install the kubuntu-desktop package | 05:12 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | same difference :) | 05:12 |
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| BluesKaj | sorry xt{c} , wasn't paying close enuff attn | 05:12 |
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| compilerwriter | daisuke_ipfw are you in Indiana? | 05:13 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | yep | 05:13 |
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| tictactatic | Failed to lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock | 05:13 |
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| compilerwriter | How goes it up there in NE corner of the state? | 05:13 |
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| abattoir | xt{c}: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/ | 05:13 |
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| blekos | has the new version been released yet? | 05:13 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | quiet, for the most part | 05:13 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | blekos: yes | 05:13 |
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| compilerwriter | Is WOWO still on the air? | 05:14 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | as it states in the topic | 05:14 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | wowo will never go off the air | 05:14 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | though they're nowhere near as powerful as they used to be | 05:14 |
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| tictactatic | though it says "This is usually some network problem...: | 05:14 |
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| compilerwriter | Kind of like WIBC here in the central part of the state. | 05:14 |
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| blekos | i do sudo apt-get upgrade but i get the message 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 05:14 |
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| KillGore | join #ubuntu-release-party | 05:14 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | i remember when i could pick up WOWO in munice | 05:14 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | muncie | 05:14 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | though this is offtopic :) | 05:14 |
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| blekos | any ideas? | 05:15 |
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| compilerwriter | I know I nearly wrecked the delivery van I was driving when I heard the call sign WOWO. | 05:15 |
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| xt{c} | what is different about the "alternate" install cd? | 05:15 |
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| compilerwriter | Was a good talk show though. | 05:15 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | xt{c}: not a live cd | 05:15 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | text installer | 05:15 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | well,install's finished, time for me to run | 05:15 |
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| Sanne | xt{c}: it's not a live cd, it's installer is text based with a bit more options, you can use it as a repository. | 05:15 |
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| BluesKaj | Northern Ontario here ...WOWO was very strong at night , when i was a kid ...that was a loooooonnnnggtime ago | 05:15 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | i shall be back shortly on a real install | 05:15 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | whoa. | 05:16 |
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| bentonnaz | i'm running feisty rc2 do i need to reinstall or will all upgrades give me new stable release | 05:16 |
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| blekos | none of the sites seem to work work correctly | 05:16 |
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| blekos | upgrade will give u a stable release | 05:16 |
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| Cugel | blekos: well we'll see if it's stable :P | 05:17 |
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| bentonnaz | cool - this distro rocks! | 05:17 |
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| blekos | lol, hop it is | 05:17 |
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| rfarias | hello | 05:17 |
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| firecrotch | Isn't rc2 the same as the release version? | 05:17 |
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| rfarias | how can i update my version of kubuntu | 05:17 |
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| BluesKaj | the Feisty repos don't have the upgrade available yet | 05:17 |
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| clickwir | blekos: what does your /etc/apt/sources.lst file say? dapper, edgy or feisty? | 05:17 |
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| blekos | sudo apt-get update | 05:17 |
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| bentonnaz | feisty | 05:18 |
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| blekos | then | 05:18 |
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| blekos | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 05:18 |
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| blekos | feisty | 05:18 |
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| berkes | congrats to all the kubuntu devs for yet another fabulous release! | 05:18 |
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| BluesKaj | good luck | 05:18 |
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| blekos | e.g Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/multiverse Packages | 05:18 |
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| rfarias | doesn't exist and comman like ubuntu | 05:18 |
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| rfarias | $ gksudo update-manager -c -d | 05:18 |
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| rfarias | ??? | 05:18 |
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| bentonnaz | " the Feisty repos don't have the upgrade available yet" - when will it be available | 05:19 |
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| clickwir | blekos: sounds like you are already totally upgraded | 05:19 |
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| rfarias | ok bentonnaz | 05:19 |
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| rfarias | so, when? | 05:19 |
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| blekos | :( hope i aint, cause i have few probs with my external hd... | 05:19 |
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| acidBURN | nothing as of yet | 05:19 |
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| blekos | bentonnaz mentioned that the update isnt yet available | 05:20 |
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| rfarias | yep | 05:20 |
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| bentonnaz | that's what BluesKaj said | 05:20 |
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| rfarias | ok thanks my friend | 05:20 |
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| BrokenLinux | Anyone have the link to the new kubuntu torrent? | 05:20 |
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| BluesKaj | been trying 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade'...no change | 05:20 |
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| blekos | the site of (k)ubuntu were down for a long time 2day | 05:20 |
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| rfarias | its up | 05:20 |
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| blekos | guess we have to wait | 05:21 |
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| BluesKaj | <---Feisty Beta | 05:21 |
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| rfarias | i've benn navigate on there | 05:21 |
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| blekos | the ubuntu site is not right yet | 05:21 |
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| bentonnaz | they're probably just overloaded | 05:21 |
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| clickwir | blekos: well, you could try changing from gb.archive.ubuntu.com to just archive.ubuntu.com and see if that does anything more. Could be the gb. mirror doesn't have the updates yet | 05:21 |
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| blekos | WE WANT THE NEW SOFTWARE :)) | 05:21 |
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| rfarias | hahahaha | 05:21 |
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| rfarias | yep | 05:21 |
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| blekos | might give it a try l8r | 05:21 |
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| BluesKaj | give Shuttleworth a call ! :) | 05:22 |
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| aaroncampbell | I have a strange problem with Kubuntu Feisty. Sometimes when I boot, sda and sdb are switched. sda is my main drive, and sdb is a RAID running on a 3WARE card, and mounting in /home | 05:22 |
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| clickwir | Hey marky, how's it going. | 05:22 |
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| imagine | kubuntu.org seems to suffer from an heavy load hehe | 05:22 |
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| cloned | i cannot get this "Version Upgrade button" the instructions speak of to show up to save my life | 05:22 |
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| BluesKaj | no kidding eh , imagine | 05:22 |
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| BrokenLinux | Anyone have the link to the new kubuntu torrent? | 05:22 |
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| aaroncampbell | In fstab, the main device has a UUID (whatever that is), and it seems to mount properly no matter whether it is hda or hdb. However, the other doesn't | 05:23 |
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| blekos | patient broken patient | 05:23 |
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| abattoir | BrokenLinux: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent | 05:23 |
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| abattoir | for i386, of course | 05:23 |
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| bentonnaz | just curious - why kubuntu reads my partitions as sda and other distros reads as hda | 05:23 |
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| cloned | BrokenLinux: http://espelhos.edugraf.ufsc.br/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent | 05:23 |
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| BluesKaj | BrokenLinux, in the US or Canada : http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/ | 05:23 |
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| BrokenLinux | thanks all :) | 05:23 |
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| imagine | no i686 install? | 05:23 |
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| aaroncampbell | bentonnaz: I think it's something in the new kernels... | 05:24 |
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| imagine | BrokenLinux: yeah good luck with that | 05:24 |
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| saveme1 | that all folf | 05:24 |
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| BluesKaj | it's an x86 install | 05:24 |
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| clickwir | bentonnaz: I think it's the way the kernel is going. I think the /sdX model will be standard in 2.6.21 | 05:24 |
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| bentonnaz | doesn't really matter - as long as it works | 05:24 |
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| clickwir | and the ubuntu boys just intergrated that into 2.6.20 for giggles | 05:24 |
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| vlatko | fellas, newbie here, I just installed Kubuntu Feisty and I don't know how to enable nVidia drivers. Can anyone help out? | 05:25 |
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| blekos | this is the 3d time i change my repos (from gr, to gb, no to ...) nothing happens... | 05:25 |
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| blekos | well it's quite simple... | 05:25 |
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| BluesKaj | DLing the new Feisty torrent...might just install that on / , already have /home on a separate partition | 05:25 |
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| WillLuongo | viatko: What kind of video card do you have? | 05:25 |
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| vlatko | nvidia 660gt | 05:26 |
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| vlatko | *6600 | 05:26 |
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| blekos | a)there is (was) a tutorial online just google ubuntu nvidia | 05:26 |
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| blekos | 2) the drivers should be in your adept manager | 05:26 |
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| WillLuongo | vlatko: I was going to tell you the same thing | 05:26 |
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| blekos | 3, go to nvidia.com and follow the instructions they are quite ok | 05:26 |
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| WillLuongo | lol | 05:26 |
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| clickwir | 3.... I was waiting for D | 05:26 |
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| imagine | I think this is the day where I will change from SuSE to Kubuntu finally... | 05:26 |
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| vlatko | alright, I thought they come preinstalled, you just have to enable them. That's what this howto says anyway: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359367&highlight=nvidia+kubuntu+feisty | 05:27 |
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| clickwir | imagine: if you can download it.... welcome! | 05:27 |
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| imagine | clickwir: I am.. just started the torrent | 05:27 |
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| bentob0x | when I start Konqueror, I have this error : "could not find mine type" "application/octet-stream", I click OK then Konqueror runs | 05:27 |
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| imagine | damn.. so many leechers! | 05:28 |
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| BluesKaj | imagine, you'll enjoy Kubuntu a lot ...the repositoris are much superior and stable vs Yast | 05:28 |
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| BrokenLinux | 32 seeders :o | 05:28 |
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| bentonnaz | did u try control center - > peripherals - > monitor & display and make sure monitor is set correctly there | 05:28 |
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| bentob0x | I have it also each time I rollover any desktop icon | 05:28 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | i forgot, no real irc client for me (right now, from here). school won't allow it, so it's irssi over ssh | 05:29 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | since i haven't figures out how to set up a socks proxy yet | 05:30 |
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| imagine | BluesKaj: that has to be seen... :) But I think I'll keep suse for my laptop for the moment ;) | 05:30 |
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| BluesKaj | imagine, suse was just too frustrating for me | 05:30 |
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| LastMall | announcements up on distrowatch now | 05:30 |
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| tictactatic | abattoir: now the upgrade utility just dies unceremoniously | 05:30 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | suse has one feature i love | 05:31 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | the new menu | 05:31 |
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| tictactatic | after that wizard | 05:31 |
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| gdiebel | Has anyone experienced really slow scrolling/refresh in kateparts when using dynamic wrap and a really long string, like a png base64 encoded? | 05:31 |
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| imagine | BluesKaj: well if you get the right repo.. yast is wonderful.. | 05:31 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | though i switch it back to kmenu style (though the enhancements in that mode are what i like - most used apps and such) | 05:31 |
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| BluesKaj | that new menu can be added to KDE if you want | 05:32 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | imagine: here, they're all the right repo :) | 05:32 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | BluesKaj: i know, i use it :) | 05:32 |
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| BluesKaj | :) | 05:32 |
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| firecrotch | If anyone is interested, the Portland University mirror is pretty fast right now | 05:32 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | severe packet shaping for torrent on campus. enough to make me cry | 05:32 |
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| RogueJediX | firecrotch: I am. What's the URL? | 05:32 |
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| imagine | what's pretty fast for you ? | 05:32 |
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| imagine | I am downloading the torrent @ 60k/sec | 05:32 |
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| BluesKaj | I like lists , icons are for eye candy lovers...not a purist , but i do like simplicity | 05:33 |
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| firecrotch | RogueJediX: http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu-iso/kubuntu/feisty/ | 05:33 |
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| abattoir | tictactatic: any chance of it actually having finished upgrading? | 05:33 |
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| RogueJediX | firecrotch: Thanks | 05:33 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | BluesKaj: i don't use the new-style, i switch back to classic kmenu style :) | 05:33 |
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| firecrotch | RogueJediX: np | 05:33 |
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| tictactatic | abattoir: nope, never finished the first stage | 05:33 |
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| firecrotch | I'm getting >500kb/s | 05:33 |
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| BluesKaj | 440Kb/s DL here | 05:33 |
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| abattoir | tictactatic: this is the downloads stage? | 05:33 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | there's so much i need to install now... this is why i hate setting up new systems | 05:34 |
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| tictactatic | yep, the preparing upgrade stage | 05:34 |
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| tictactatic | the one that got stuck at 124 out of 127 | 05:34 |
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| BrokenLinux | so this is a current version? kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso 17-Apr-2007 05:55 | 05:34 |
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| abattoir | tictactatic: i'm guessing it's a problem w/ the server | 05:34 |
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| firecrotch | BrokenLinux: Yep, that's the release version | 05:34 |
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| Bitrex | my updater is falling over at a point in the fetching updates too | 05:34 |
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| BluesKaj | still no upgrades in the repos ...what gives ? | 05:35 |
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| Bitrex | "Unable to find expected entry deb/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file" | 05:35 |
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| Cugel | Mine's at 1017 packages. | 05:35 |
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| tictactatic | abattoir: but now when i go to Adept, i hit refresh, and then it says it has problem downolading updates... but then it launches the upgrade utility | 05:35 |
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| pollyo | Anyone familiar with the package ubutun-live-support? | 05:35 |
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| instructor | Woah #ubuntu is packed | 05:35 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | instructor: even this channel is about 100 people over the norm | 05:36 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | whoa. we're not THAT packed >_< | 05:36 |
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| abattoir | tictactatic: i'd suggest switching to another mirror if you can... | 05:36 |
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| tictactatic | i just wanted to see what's wrong with the downloads, went to command line and said sudo apt-get upgrade | 05:37 |
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| tictactatic | and it reported i couldn't access the resource | 05:37 |
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| tictactatic | and i have exited Adept | 05:38 |
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| tictactatic | maybe the upgrade utility is hanging somewhere | 05:38 |
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| tictactatic | any idea what it's called, so I can kill it? | 05:38 |
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| rstanca | is there a difference upgrading by update-manager -c than dist-upgrade? | 05:38 |
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| Jucato | rstanca: update-manager isn't installed on Kubuntu. try using Adept | 05:38 |
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| Bitrex | I get the following when trying to upgrade: "Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/Release Unable to find expected entry deb/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) | 05:39 |
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| rstanca | Jucato: i upgraded last night, dist-upgrade, no issue so far :) | 05:39 |
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| rstanca | works like a charm | 05:39 |
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| tictactatic | abattoir: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) | 05:39 |
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| tictactatic | E: Unable to lock the list directory | 05:39 |
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| rstanca | just curios if there`s a difference | 05:39 |
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| wolferine | today the day? | 05:39 |
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| Daisuke_IPFW | music streaming works like a dream :D | 05:39 |
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| Jucato | rstanca: thought you were looking for a GUI app. | 05:39 |
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| firecrotch | Bitrex: I don't think the upgrage is completely onto the repo servers yet | 05:39 |
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| Bitrex | ah | 05:39 |
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| abattoir | tictactatic: hmm... could you try 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock' (Do this if you're sure it was only downloading the packages) | 05:40 |
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| abattoir | tictactatic: it'd give you the option to kill the app using that file | 05:40 |
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| abattoir | yaay! Jucato is here :) | 05:40 |
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| Bitrex | I guess I'll just wait a while then :) | 05:41 |
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| tictactatic | abattoir: it never said anything else | 05:41 |
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| tictactatic | will try | 05:41 |
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| nozey | can someone gime a direct torrent link to kubuntu 7.04? | 05:42 |
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| Bitrex | here's a longshot question but since so many people are here -- anyone ever managed to get the digital output of an Echo Mia soundcard working | 05:42 |
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| Bitrex | under Kubuntu? | 05:42 |
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| clickwir | dang, download via apt-get dist-upgrade says it has over 7hours left to go. And it's already downloaded 216 packages. | 05:42 |
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| abattoir | nozey: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent | 05:42 |
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| nozey | abattoir, is it the final iso? | 05:42 |
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| abattoir | nozey: that's the desktop, i386 iso | 05:42 |
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| abattoir | nozey: yup | 05:42 |
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| nozey | thank you | 05:42 |
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| abattoir | you're welcome | 05:43 |
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| firecrotch | I'll have a desktop-i386.iso mirror up shortly | 05:43 |
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| Cugel | What the hell it failed on package 1110 out of 1110. | 05:43 |
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| Cugel | How do I _restart_ the upgrade manager? | 05:44 |
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| clickwir | close it and reopen it? | 05:44 |
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| Frost^ | Hello. I have 2 cifs mount lines in fstab, and they are not being mounted at startup. | 05:45 |
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| psb154 | OpenOffice 2.2 very nice. :-) | 05:45 |
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| Frost^ | When I do a `sudo mount /mnt/point` it works just fine. | 05:45 |
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| Frost^ | Any idea what can be causing this? Or how to fix it? | 05:45 |
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| pgquiles_ | is the ISO dated April 17th the good one? | 05:45 |
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| firecrotch | pgquiles_: Yep | 05:46 |
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| mackyman | ARG! Update Tool crashed >_< | 05:46 |
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| Cugel | And I reopen it how? | 05:46 |
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| terrestre | some one know if the shipit of 2 days ago its was for feisty too? | 05:46 |
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| mackyman | What to do? | 05:46 |
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| clickwir | psb154: You can make it faster by disabling java. Options > java then uncheck it. Close it and reopen, it's much faster. Most people dont use the java extras anway and they really slow it down. | 05:46 |
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| psb154 | The new network configuration app with tray icon, also vn | 05:46 |
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| nbogdanoff | anyone else have issues with rdesktop with the display gettings blurry, or lines repeating when scrolling. or if i drag a window the contents of that window becomes unreadable. -- the window displays part of the actual contents, but repeated throughout. its all distorted basically. ive got X running just fine with the proper drivers on dual monitor. any ideas? | 05:46 |
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| mackyman | Just reboot and hope for the best? | 05:46 |
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| wolferine | today the day? Feisty out? | 05:46 |
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| wolferine | :) | 05:46 |
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| firecrotch | wolferine: Yep | 05:46 |
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| wolferine | doesnt that brun? | 05:47 |
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| wolferine | burn* | 05:47 |
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| psb154 | clickwir: :-D I develop in java das-me-job :-) | 05:47 |
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| firecrotch | wolferine: You get used to it after a while :P | 05:47 |
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| wolferine | lol | 05:47 |
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| Cugel | Q: how do I restart the upgrade-manager (from console for example) -- no menu option or something is there. | 05:47 |
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| clickwir | oh well then you'll probably need that part :p | 05:47 |
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| clickwir | Cugel: how did you open/run it the first time? | 05:47 |
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| Frost^ | Hmm, does anyone know about that cifs not mounting at boot part? | 05:48 |
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| firecrotch | Cugel: killall -9 upgrade-manager | 05:48 |
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| psb154 | thanks for the tip though. I use OOffice all day too for specs and stuff and 2.2 looks and feels great. | 05:48 |
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| Cugel | clickwir: it downloaded the packages but gave an error at the last package, then I closed it (no other option). So now I want to try again. | 05:48 |
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| psb154 | its a bit like christmas | 05:48 |
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| terrestre | is kde4 in feisty posible? | 05:48 |
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| firecrotch | terrestre: There will probably be a kde4 package for feisty when kde4 comes out | 05:48 |
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| clickwir | ohhh 747KB/sec...... on CentOS 5 :o | 05:49 |
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| firecrotch | terrestre: if not, then you'll have to install from the source code, or wait until Grumpy | 05:50 |
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| mackyman | Anyone know what to do if the upgrade tool crashes? Anything I can do? | 05:50 |
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| Bitrex | hungry hungry hippppppoo | 05:50 |
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| terrestre | firecrotch: maybe i will try the source option | 05:51 |
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| dusty-work | Hey guys I am still on edgy, is there a guide on how to upgrade to the latest release? | 05:51 |
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| tictactatic | mackyman: i followed abattoir's instructions, killed the process | 05:51 |
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| tictactatic | found out i had several of those running | 05:51 |
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| tatters | I cannot find a section to select screen saver , where is it located? | 05:51 |
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| terrestre | dusty-work: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading | 05:52 |
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| clickwir | dusty-work: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.lst then type :%s/edgy/feisty/s then : w q then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 05:52 |
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| BluesKaj | dusty-work, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/ | 05:52 |
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| mackyman | tictactatic: Whant then? | 05:53 |
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| Cugel | The repos seem to be hit very hard. Maybe I'll just give it a day or two. | 05:53 |
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| tictactatic | mackyman: still trying to figure out | 05:53 |
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| firecrotch | Cugel: Good idea. Or you can download the alternate install CD and use that | 05:53 |
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| Cugel | But won't the install CD overwrite my home dir etc? | 05:54 |
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| firecrotch | Cugel: you can use the alternate install CD to do an upgrade without losing anything | 05:54 |
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| bentonnaz | is there a shell command to find out what version kubuntu i have / what kernel / etc. | 05:54 |
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| MidMark | solution for samba update failure? | 05:54 |
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| Bitrex | I'm going to try that | 05:54 |
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| gost87 | hola a todos | 05:54 |
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| MidMark | distro upgrade is stopped now :( | 05:55 |
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| firecrotch | hola, gost87! | 05:55 |
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| lupo | so is kubuntu.org also under pressure? | 05:55 |
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| the_hammer | anyone here using kubuntu 7.04 beta feighsty? | 05:55 |
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| firecrotch | !es | gost87 | 05:55 |
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| dusty-work | thanks guys | 05:55 |
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| ubotu | gost87: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda. | 05:55 |
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| clickwir | bentonnaz: uname -a | 05:55 |
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| lupo | slashdot check | 05:55 |
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| clickwir | bentonnaz: cat /etc/lsb-release | 05:55 |
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| bentonnaz | thanks | 05:55 |
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| gost87 | perdon me equivo que | 05:55 |
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| gost87 | si yase | 05:56 |
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| mackyman | tictactatic: Do you think it will be safe to reboot and hope for the best? | 05:56 |
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| the_hammer | im wondering how to make trash can look like a trash can with a lid on it | 05:56 |
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| gost87 | grax | 05:56 |
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| Cugel | fire: sounds good to me: where do I find the 'alternate' version? | 05:56 |
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| Bitrex | so if I understand correctly - i can get the alternate install .iso and upgrade from the disc rather than trying to pull down all the packages using adept? | 05:56 |
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| clickwir | Bitrex: : yes | 05:56 |
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| abattoir | Cugel: want a .torrent for it? | 05:56 |
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| Bitrex | excellent - thanks! | 05:56 |
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| Cugel | abattoir: yeah, sure. | 05:56 |
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| tictactatic | mackyman: not sure... i for one, will leave this machine on | 05:56 |
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| MidMark | someone else having trouble with distro upgrade and samba? | 05:56 |
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| abattoir | Cugel: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent | 05:56 |
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| firecrotch | Bitrex: Yep :) | 05:57 |
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| instructor | imagine: KonGrats | 05:57 |
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| imagine | instructor: ? | 05:57 |
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| Frost^ | <MidMark> someone else having trouble with distro upgrade and samba? -> What exactly are you experiencing? | 05:57 |
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| bentonnaz | looks like i am already upgraded and up-to-date (cat /etc/lsb-release) :)) | 05:57 |
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| the_hammer | the finnsl new kubuntu released yet?or we still in 7.04 beta? | 05:58 |
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| clickwir | the_hammer: check the topic. Feisty is final. | 05:58 |
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| MidMark | Frost^: 2007-04-19 17:51:45,244 ERROR got an error from dpkg for pkg: '/var/cache/apt/archives/samba_3.0.24-2ubuntu1_i386.deb': 'il sottoprocesso nuovo script di post-removal ha restituito un codice di errore 134 | 05:58 |
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| MidMark | dist-upgrade is stopped and I don't know what I have to do | 05:59 |
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| wolferine | why is it that the .isos for ANY *buntu release is weird on an FTP? | 05:59 |
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| LjL | !mini | Cugel, there's also this | 05:59 |
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| ubotu | Cugel, there's also this: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 05:59 |
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| Frost^ | Well, I didn't have that. | 05:59 |
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| Frost^ | But I've used feisty before its release, so. | 05:59 |
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| Cugel | No problem, I managed to restart that distribution upgrade again :-) | 05:59 |
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| the_hammer | i got the beta version 7.04 so theres another 7.04 then now? | 05:59 |
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| wolferine | the_hammer, no | 06:00 |
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| wolferine | its the same one | 06:00 |
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| wolferine | you might just have to update it | 06:00 |
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| terrestre | someone have asking for cds? | 06:00 |
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| clickwir | the_hammer: if you are on the beta, just do and update and it'll get you to the final. | 06:00 |
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| the_hammer | ok | 06:01 |
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| the_hammer | i just wanted a copy of the finnal | 06:01 |
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| the_hammer | like cd i mean | 06:01 |
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| wolferine | what is the fiesty channel again? | 06:01 |
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| wolferine | ubuntu+1? | 06:01 |
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| BluesKaj | clickwir, the repos don't have the upgrades yet | 06:02 |
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| firecrotch | wolferine: #ubuntu+1 just redirects to #ubuntu | 06:02 |
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| stdin | the_hammer: oh, btw, feisty CD are available from ShipIt https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ :) | 06:02 |
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| tictactatic | mackyman: abat | 06:02 |
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| mackyman | tictactatic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=340450&highlight=upgrade+clean I think this can solve my problem atlast, maybe yours too =) | 06:02 |
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| wolferine | ah | 06:02 |
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| tictactatic | abattoir: i am quitting for now, on this machine, will wait for smaller loads on server | 06:03 |
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| tictactatic | thanks for your help | 06:03 |
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| wolferine | hey firecrotch see my question about FTPs? | 06:03 |
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| tictactatic | will resume tomorrow | 06:03 |
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| firecrotch | wolferine: What do you mean by "weird" ? | 06:03 |
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| mackyman | tictactatic: abat? | 06:04 |
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| wolferine | well, its not a file you can just click and dl directly | 06:04 |
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