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DragnslcrYou happen to know offhand if VMWare is better or worse than Wine for performance (or just in general)?12:14
Aloneamorvok: ok, I will look at that too. the main thing is, I do so many different things and its like, not just one OS can satisfy all the things I want to do.12:14
nuutypically you just create a standard virtual machine, put your installation cd in the drive, and start the VM12:14
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DragnslcrI have an Athlon AM2, which supposedly has a lot of optimizations for virtual machines12:15
morvokAlonea: than virtual machines could be perfect for you :)12:15
Aloneamorvok: indeed. I am already dual booting windows and linux as it is. Also, what is the difference between VM Server and VM Player?12:16
morvokvm player is for binary applications.. vmServer is for running a complete OS.12:16
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Aloneamorvok: ok. thanks. I will try this after dinner. hopefully I wont screw everything up12:17
morvokAlonea: good luck..12:18
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Dragnslcrmorvok- you know offhand if VMWare server is in the repository?12:21
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morvokDragnslcr: It won't be becuase its not a free liciense12:22
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DragnslcrAh, gotcha12:22
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morvokDragnslcr: I believe Qemu is though.12:23
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morvokDragnslcr: it a wee bit more difficult to manage though.12:23
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morvokno GUI either.12:23
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DragnslcrThere's a vmware-server-kernel-modules-2.6.20-15 package in restricted/misc12:25
jussi01!vmware12:26
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers12:26
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tattersI found this howto only took 5 mins to setup V easy http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-from-canonical-commercial-repository-in-ubuntu-feisty.html12:27
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ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit12:28
Daisuke_Idocan we get a little server maintenance?12:28
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DragnslcrI think that's what we are getting12:28
Daisuke_Idookay, a little more CAREFUL server maintenance :)12:28
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DragnslcrNice, thanks tatters12:30
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Filthpighi all12:31
jussi01!hi | Filthpig12:32
ubotuFilthpig: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:32
LinkCanabicoFilthpig Hi12:32
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FilthpigI want to turn one of my harddrives off (as in cut power, not umount).. I remember once I booted the kernel with the -no-acpi flag, and then that specific drive turned itself off when not active (which reduced the noise from my computer quite remarkably)... Now I want to disable the disk without using the -no-acpi flag12:33
Filthpigdoes anyone know how to do this?12:33
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baskitcaiseFilthpig: have a look at hdparm, this can shutdown disks and stuff like acoustic management assuming your drive handles it12:34
tatterso0(pull the plug)12:35
sichemistbaskitcaise: Except it doesn't work with the new kernels-- They set every drive up as scsi12:35
Filthpighehe tatters, I'd like to, but I need the disk to wake up when I need it12:35
Filthpigwhich it did with -no-acpi12:36
DragnslcrSpeaking of which, will Kubuntu autodetect a new SATA hard drive if I plug one in?12:36
Filthpig!sata12:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:36
Filthpig!S-ata12:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about s-ata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:36
Filthpighm12:36
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LinkCanabicoFilthpig abut the autodetect YES12:37
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k3ksHi!12:38
k3ksI've got a problem12:38
FilthpigLinkCanabico: I did not ask about autodetect :p12:38
k3ksthis problem, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2579757#post257975712:38
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LinkCanabicosory it wass ment to Dragnslcr:12:38
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DragnslcrLinkCanabico- thanks12:38
k3ksi already askedt it in other channels, but no one knew a solution12:39
DragnslcrI still have some files I have to pull off my old Windows box12:39
k3kshas anybody a cluehow to solfe it?12:39
k3kssolve12:39
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tattersMy second hard drive is 114 GB  NTFS, been using it as main storrage for docs/music films etc had no problems so far using ntfs-ng12:44
k3ksdoes anyone know about berl problems on kubuntu feisty?12:45
k3ksproblems like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2579757#post257975712:45
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=== NightBird had a slight problem with the ntfs driver in kubuntu... in that it allowed me to label a directory something that windows doesn't like, so I can't access it in windows... in kubuntu, it was able to access it fine, but not in windows
sichemistNightBird: Can you rename it under linux?12:47
NightBirdsichemist, probably...12:47
NightBirdI've had too many problems with getting grub to work right that I haven't had the chance to reboot into linux yet12:47
sichemistI imagine that would be the easiest solution12:47
Filthpig!pastebin12:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:47
NightBirdI guess I could probably go with a live cd and do it then12:47
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sichemistNightBird: That's what I would do.12:48
SubOnewhere can i go for information on how to get a digital camera working because digikam cannot get the images from it12:48
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sichemistSubOne: I usually try google: Linux+cameraname12:49
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SubOnesichemist: I have googled.12:50
sichemistWhat's the camera?12:51
SubOneKodak EasyShare v53012:51
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sichemistSubOne: Another possible workaround is to buy a card reader for whatever memory device your camera uses.12:53
sichemistI prefer the cardreaders myself12:53
SubOneRight, I'd prefer to have the camera read...12:53
tattershmm Kodak notsoeasytoshareonlinux12:53
SubOneUnfortunately I don't have a job atm, can't go buy hardware12:54
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anon32anyone know of an offline swf player?12:54
tattersany browser me thinks12:54
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tattersas long as it supports swf obviously12:55
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Aloneamorvok: thanks for the luck. Going to read over this stuff and see if I understand it, and give it a shot. At least I have multiple harddrives, and if I really need to, I can back up one on an external harddrive that I have.12:55
SubOneSo I guess no one can suggest any sites?12:56
sichemistSubOne: The gPhoto page says the Kodak v530 is supported...  I assumed that digikam uses libgphoto2 but maybe not...12:56
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sichemistSubOne: Do you see anything in the log files when you plug it in?12:58
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SubOneare they in /var/log/ somewhere... lemme check12:59
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sichemistSubOne: Maybe you can do: sudo tail -f /var/log/messages and plug it in and remove it a couple of times.12:59
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phpcodehow to run dualscreen?01:00
sichemist!xinerama01:00
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ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead01:00
anon32xinerama also sucks01:01
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anon32phpcode, what card do you have? most drivers have their own way to do dualhead01:01
BradstoneI have multiple resolutions listed in xorg.conf that aren't available for actual screen resolutions.... any reason why this may be?01:02
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anon32Bradstone, xresprobe failed it? or because your display "supports" them but doesn't really support em? or because you added them?01:02
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phpcodeanon32: nvidia01:03
BradstoneWell, I didn't add them. I'm wondering about the "support" issue though01:03
anon32phpcode, look at nvidia's twinview... one sec01:03
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anon32phpcode, ok, look at the xinerama page then, sorry for being wrong01:04
anon32see the section "nvidia", it'll walk you through twinview01:04
SubOnesichemist: it shows that i plugged it in01:04
morlaHi, can somebody give me a bit help with Firefox's "open with" settings, it drives me mad :-/01:05
SubOnemorla: such as?01:05
sichemistSubOne: Well, that's good, I guess.  Have you tried gphoto, just for giggles?01:05
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sichemistI'm not generally fond of GTK apps, but if it works...01:06
morlaSubOne: it doesn't have video applications in the list, and doesn't remember the ones I picked. I have to go through /usr/bin/kaffeine every single time01:06
SubOnesichemist: dont think i have that01:06
morlaSubOne: in all Kubuntu versions prior to Feisty it remembered the last used apps01:07
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SubOnemorla: it should remember them if they are the same file type... try asking in the #firefox channel01:07
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SubOnemorla: I have to say that I upgraded to fiesty and although I had some issues, that was not one of them01:07
morlaSubOne: I'm positive it's a Kubuntu issue, don't know if the firefox ppl can help01:07
sichemistSubOne: You don't have it because I gave you the wrong name :/  It's gtkam.01:08
SubOnemorla: although i use embedded mplayer01:08
anon32mplayer rules :-)01:08
anon32vlc is good too, but mplayer rules :-)01:08
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morlaSubOne: I'd do that too, but I need to keep the dialog that asks me if I want to play or save the file01:08
SubOnemorla: I'm afraid I don't know, nor can I think of any reason why that would not be a firefox issue, assuming it really works the first time you search for the player01:09
SubOnesichemist: dont have that either lemme try to install it01:09
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morlaSubOne: ok :) I'll go and nag the #firefox crowd then01:11
anon32liek... why c4n7't i paly ne of my mp3z? wh4t da h3l1 15 wr0ng? do3s ne1 no?01:11
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Gerroux01:12
Daisuke_Idoanon32: could you repeat that?  maybe in english perhaps?01:12
Daisuke_Ido:P01:12
anon32:-)01:13
SubOnesichemist: gtkam says could not initialize camera01:13
anon32!133701:13
ubotu1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.01:13
anon32I love that one01:13
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sichemistSubOne: Well we knew that already!  Is the camera on when you plug it in?  I noticed one page that says to turn it off before plugging it in.01:14
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SubOnewell it is off when i put it in the dock, then i hit a button on the dock which mounts it01:14
SubOneand then digikam tries to load01:14
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sichemistSubOne: I dunno, dude.  I'm out of ideas.01:15
SubOneis there perhaps a better channel to ask?01:15
phpcodeanon32: i dont understand it. me=noob01:15
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sichemistSubOne: Maybe in #ubuntu01:15
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anon32phpcode, eh? hmm.....01:15
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LinkCanabico SubOne conect the camera hit the buton and than conect the station to the PC01:16
anon32phpcode, shall I try to walk you through it? or do you want to give up?01:16
SubOneUm... that is what is happening01:17
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jordanhey anybody does kubuntu default have a ctrl+alt+F8 goin or did i mess somethin up01:17
SubOnei think i may have a solution... sec01:17
anon32ctrl +alt + f8 should bring up the boot console01:17
jordanalright ty01:18
SubOnei dont think i have permission to access it01:18
martalliHow can I see what sort of drive I have in this laptop from linux?01:18
martalliI was looking in /proc and can't find any info01:18
phpcodeanon32: mine xorg file does not look anything near what is under "Here is mine:"01:18
martalli(looking for something like the tagline seagate <model no>, 100gb sata, etc01:18
anon32phpcode, NO Don't PASTE01:18
sichemistSubOne: are you in all the right groups?01:19
phpcodeanon32: no, im not going to PASTE the code here in public chat. :)01:20
anon32hehe, you worried me for a second01:20
sichemistlol01:20
phpcodeanon32: sorry :)01:20
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anon32phpcode, it's not a problem that your xorg.conf doesn't look like that, just find the part in it which says [Section "Device"] 01:21
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phpcodeanon32: yes, ok.01:22
anon32phpcode, copy the option twinview, option renderaccel, and option useedidfreqs lines on the Xinerama howto exactly as they are there01:23
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phpcodeanon32: yes.01:24
jujimufuhow do I watch the history of my command line?01:24
sichemistjujimufu: type history01:25
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anon32phpcode, ok, now follow the instructions for setting your option "metamodes" line01:25
LinkCanabicojujimufu check "/home/yourname/.bash_history"01:25
jujimufusichemist, LinkCanabico: thanks01:26
sichemistmartalli: try this: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda01:26
sichemistor whatever your disk is.01:26
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sichemistmartalli: That's a capital "I" not a lowercase "L"01:27
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phpcodeanon32: copy the Option MetaModes 2?01:28
anon32phpcode, don't copy it, follow the instructions on the page to set that option for your system - basically you need to add:01:28
anon32Option "MetaModes" "resolutionofmonitor1,resolutionofmonitor2;anotherresolutionformonitor1,anotherresolutionformonitor2;etc1,etc2"01:29
SubOneyay i got it01:29
LinkCanabicoSubOne: how?01:30
longjohn77can someone recommend a good VM that can do win xp?01:30
SubOnei set the usb device dir to 77701:30
Daisuke_Idolongjohn77: all of them01:30
LinkCanabicoSubOne: congrats!!01:30
Daisuke_Idovmware's probably your best bet01:31
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sichemistSubOne: Will it survive a reboot?01:31
longjohn77Daisuke_Ido: alrighty, but what would I have to get? vmware-player and what else?01:31
Daisuke_Idoa premade xp vmware image :)01:32
SubOnesichemist: it appears it didnt even survive a removal of the camlol01:32
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sichemistSubOne: What group has ownership?  Are you a member of that group?  I'll bet that's the prob.01:32
SubOnesichemist: lemme check01:34
longjohn77Daisuke_Ido: where would I find one01:34
phpcodeanon32: done. if it is to high for the screens what will happen?01:35
anon32phpcode, it won't work :-)01:35
anon32probably, one of your monitors will have a scrolling screen01:35
Daisuke_Idono idea...01:35
anon32phpcode, anyway, just make sure you set valid resolutions01:35
martallisichemist:  thanks01:36
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phpcodeanon32: like 1280x1024?01:36
anon32phpcode, yeah, that sounds good01:36
SubOneif i add myself to a group do i need to restart then?01:36
Daisuke_Idomaybe you could look around vmware's site and find out that vmware server is free.01:36
sichemistmartalli: NP.  Did you get what you needed?  You might have to google the model number to get mfg.01:36
anon32if they're LCDs, that's probably the right number01:36
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martallisichemist:  Yes, that's the info I was looking for01:37
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sichemistSubOne: Just log out and back in.01:37
jpiccolodoes ram affect ftp transfer speed on a server?01:37
SubOnesichemist: k, ty01:37
sichemistSubOne: Sure.  Good luck01:37
SubOneoh im not leaving its another comp01:38
phpcodeanon32: the worst thing that can happen is that i have to reinstall linux :)01:38
anon32lol, actually, the worst that can happen is that you have to reset your xorg.conf :-)01:38
sichemistSubOne: Ok, let us know whether it works.01:38
martallisichemist:  Laptop drives have gotten so low in price that I think I will just get a nice fat new HD for my laptop01:38
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sichemistmartalli: Amazing isn't it?  They used to be super expensive.01:39
SubOneits loading...01:39
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martallisichemist:  Yeha, I hadn't even been looking until I decided to upgrade my wife's mac mini01:40
SubOneit says could not get file list for folder '/store_00010001/ an error occured in the io-library ('Bad parameters'): Could not query kernel driver of device.... says same thing if i run gtkam as root01:40
LHoThello everyone01:40
AloneaOk, I have never tried to get my printer to work in linux before. To use it, I have to access it on the network from my dad's computer, which is windows. It is an HP All In One 217001:41
sichemistSubOne: I dunno.  I thought that would do it.  Maybe just reboot out of desperation.01:41
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Daisuke_IdoAlonea: it should be insanely simple01:42
Daisuke_IdoPSC 2170?01:42
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: ok. Just never done it before and don't know where to start01:43
Daisuke_Idothe drivers are already there01:43
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: yes.01:43
Daisuke_Idosystem settings > printers01:43
Daisuke_Idoadd > add printer / class01:44
Daisuke_Idoand just follow the wizard from there01:44
longjohn77Daisuke_Ido: this is pretty confusing, lol01:44
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: ok. network printer?01:44
longjohn77Daisuke_Ido: so essentially I either need to search around for a premade XP vm image, or make my own?01:44
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: or the SMB shared printer?01:45
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Daisuke_IdoAlonea: i thought you were hooking it up locally01:45
Snowmanevening folks.01:45
Daisuke_Idolongjohn77: get vmware server.  create a virtual image.  install xp on it.01:46
SubOneok trying a restart01:46
phpcodeanon32: the section "screen".. is that a copy/paste thing?01:46
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SnowmanAnyone know if there's an easy way to keep the kde wireless assistant from connecting to the first unsecured network it sees, as I'd really rather not have to tell it to connect to my lan each time.01:46
Daisuke_Idolongjohn77: just don't expect to play games01:46
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: Umm, Its hooked up to my dads computer in the other room. I have to access it from there on the network. His computer has to on for anyone to use it.01:46
sichemistlongjohn77: Just to make things even more interesting, there's a VM called virtual box that's really good.  Free too.01:46
Daisuke_Idookay, then go with SMB shared printer01:46
anon32phpcode, no01:46
sichemistYou'll have to make your own XP image, of course.01:46
anon32phpcode, locate your section "screen"01:46
phpcodeanon32: yes.01:47
SubOneSnowman: when i upgraded to Fiesty that also got updated and i havent had that issue since01:47
Snowmanhmm.  wonder if I can just have adept_updater move me from dapper to feisty01:48
Snowmanor if I should download a cd.01:48
LjLnope, you need to go through edgy...01:48
sichemistSnowman: moving more than one upgrade is unsupported...01:48
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: ok, NT status access denied01:48
Snowmanheh, so can it move me to edgy, then on to feisty?01:48
anon32phpcode, it should have a "modes" section, just add together your monitors' resolutions to get the new values01:48
SubOnewtf, all of a sudden my video is screwed now01:49
anon32e.g. 1280x1024+1280x1024=2480x102401:49
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: happens during browsing of the network..actually. Lemme go make sure his computer is set to printer sharing01:49
anon32add the horizontal ones, leave the vertical one01:49
LjLSnowman: yes01:49
Snowmanis 7.04 stable?01:49
Snowmanother than this one minor issue, 6.06 has been rock solid for me.01:49
LjL6.06 probably tends to be more stable than other versions, given its LTS status.01:50
Snowmanlts meaning?01:50
anon32Snowman, it is. It's not *LTS* though, for what that's worth.01:50
sichemistSnowman: I went from breezy -> dapper -> edgy on one machine without a problem.01:50
anon32!lts01:50
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.01:50
LjL!lts01:50
Snowmanah.01:50
SnowmanI don't usually stick with a distro version for 3 years though.01:51
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: ok. I had to turn on printer sharing, but it still isn't working. Do I need to restart his computer or something?01:51
LjLSnowman: 7.04 seems "stable enough" for me, but your mileage may vary.01:51
Daisuke_Idonot particularly sure01:51
SnowmanI'll just grab a cd.  this machine (dell latitude) is pretty well supported under most distros...01:51
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Daisuke_Idomight want to restart the wizard though01:51
Snowmanalonea you shouldn't have to, no.01:51
Snowmanhis machine is xp home, or pro?01:52
AloneaSnowman: XP Pro with Media Center01:52
AloneaSnowman: his firewall might be blocking me.01:53
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Snowmanthat's a possibility.  make sure that his firewall has an exception for "windows file and printer sharing".01:54
morlaIf I found a rather small bug.. something that isn't really worth a launchpad entry.. where would I report it?01:55
AloneaSnowman: never mind...he actually has it turned off.01:55
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Snowmanah, so it's not that.01:55
Snowmanhold on a moment, I've seen this on my LAN be, and found a howto about it.01:55
phpcodeanon32: i have 6  Subsection "Display" .... is it safe to delete 5 of them or?01:56
AloneaSnowman: okies, and if you need the exact message its this: Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED01:56
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anon32phpcode, !!! pastebin your xorg.conf, I wanna inspect it...01:57
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phpcodewhere can i post it?01:58
anon32http://pastebin.ca01:58
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phpcodeanon32: ok.02:00
anon32link?02:01
phpcodehttp://pastebin.ca/47159602:01
phpcodeplease dont hate me. im only noob in linux :)02:01
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anon32phpcode, oh, each subsection is for a different depth, copy the same modes onto each subsection (and don't delete anything)02:02
Aloneaphpcode: nah, we couldn't hate you. you ask questions and accept the adice we give. nothing wrong with that.02:02
Alonea*advice02:02
anon32phpcode, or, since you only defined one metamode, only set "2560x1024" for the modes02:02
Snowmanhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-32190.html02:03
Snowmanthat might be helpful alonea02:03
phpcodeanon32: the Section "Screen" like that wen i opened xorg for the first time :)02:04
anon32can I share a printer over samba and require a logon? or does it have to be public?02:04
anon32phpcode, yeah, I just realized that mine was too, lol02:04
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Snowmanalonea: about 1/3 of the way down, there's someone who got the same error you're getting and worked around it.02:04
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|ericsson|Could anyone tell me how to put the 'home icon' back on the desktop?02:06
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AloneaSnowman: ok, thanks.02:08
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: looks like it isn't as quick as I was hoping02:08
sichemist|ericsson|: Right click desktop, select create new > link to application02:09
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sichemist|ericsson|: Then put this in the command box: kfmclient openProfile filemanagement02:09
sichemist|ericsson|: Then change the icon :)02:10
Daisuke_Idoi said that when i thought you were hooking it up locally :\02:10
Daisuke_Idoas it is now, i have absolutely no idea how to get it working :(02:10
AloneaYAY! pressing back, changing to guest, and going back forward works!02:11
|ericsson|Ah, wonderful, thank's sichemist02:11
sichemist|ericsson|: No problem.  I've had to look that up before, myself.02:11
|ericsson|sichemist: One would image it should be relatively easy to add an icon to the desktop though ;)02:12
sichemist|ericsson|: There might be an easier way, but that's the one that I know. :-)02:12
Daisuke_IdoAlonea: well that's good02:13
jrickyou can also create a launcher, name it Home, and point it to ~. Then change icon.02:13
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jricklocation, i mean02:14
|ericsson|hah, I'm lost when it comes to changing the icon though, would you know that as well sichemist? ;)02:14
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jrickright click, properties02:14
K-RyanGood evening everybody02:15
jrickclick the wrench02:15
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jrickclick the icom02:15
jrickicon02:15
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|ericsson|Ah, there we go, thank's jrick02:15
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|ericsson|jrick: I'm so not used to gui's :)02:16
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jricknot sure where the home icon is, though.02:16
|ericsson|jrick: was named kdf_home02:16
phpcodeanon32: im sorry that i had to ask you that many questions, but i installed my first linux yesterday(Thursday). :)02:17
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jrickit's filed under Filesystems, and called folder02:17
|ericsson|phpcode: if you never ask, then you will never now :)02:17
anon32phpcode, hehe, after you adjust your screen, it should be ok to save and restart X02:17
jrickfolder_home02:17
jricksry, just changed to dvorak.02:18
jrick_ is next to enter.02:18
|ericsson|jrick: I found it under system icons -> applications -> kdf_home :)02:18
phpcodeanon32: you know what have happend if you dont see me again soon :) *lol*02:18
anon32phpcode, hehe, backup your original xorg.conf - that way, if it don't work, when you get sent back to a command prompt, you can copy the old one back and fix your problem02:19
phpcodehow to copy a file? *lol*02:20
Aloneaya know, this was similar set up that I did in vista. You had to do a weird workaround to get past a similar error02:20
|ericsson|cp source destination02:20
phpcodek. thx02:20
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Filthpig!qgl02:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:20
Filthpig!xgl02:20
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:20
sichemistphpcode: If the file is owned by root, you have to do: sudo cp source destination02:20
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Filthpiglol02:21
|ericsson|In feisty, when clicking on icons there was/is an effect that animated a zoom effect, how to enable/disable that?02:22
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FilthpigI'm installing winXP through qemu now.. I just love those little nuggets of information they serve while installing: "Windows XP is the fastest and most reliable Windows operating system yet. If a program crashes, you can safely close the program without losing data or restarting Windows"02:23
Filthpigand stuff like that02:23
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jrickericsson: not sure. tried to get that on edgy running KDE 3.5.6, but nothing there.02:23
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SubOnefinally fixed the camera02:24
LHoThello all, #beryl and #ubuntu-effects are being slow, can someone help me with my Beryl problem?02:24
K-RyanFilthpig, they give you them because it takes so long to install it.02:24
|ericsson|jrick: had the zoom effect the first time I upgraded to 356, then next machine, same version: no zoom :)02:25
|ericsson|!zoomy-thingie02:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zoomy-thingie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:25
K-RyanLHoT I'll see what I can do, what's your problem?02:25
jrickit always worked fine for my install of feisty.02:25
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|ericsson|xp ~40 minutes installation compared to badgers ~1302:25
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K-RyanI loved installing Kubuntu02:26
theamazingpotato /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 12345602:26
K-RyanTook 5 minutes or something.02:26
theamazingpotatooops02:26
K-Ryanlol02:26
Filthpighahaha02:27
K-RyanI'm sorry02:27
jricksame happened to me02:27
Skrot-And you can browse the web while you're installing ;)02:27
K-RyanIt's just that I've done it too02:27
LHoTone sec, got someone else to help02:27
SubOneyay and it works with digikam02:27
LHoTthank you anyways02:27
theamazingpotatohey is there a way to make a root account on kubuntu02:27
K-RyanSkrot- You can do pretty much anything while installing Kubuntu can't you?02:27
LHoT:-D02:27
Skrot-K-Ryan: Yupp :)02:27
K-RyanI had people walk me through it on here actually...02:27
Skrot-hehe, exactly02:27
K-RyanHey, how hard is Wine to use?02:28
Filthpigthe only thing I wonder about is: Why does the default *ubuntu themes look so incredibly boring?02:28
theamazingpotatouse crossover office02:28
K-RyanI'm going to get it setup sometime, I just lack motivation to do it.02:28
theamazingpotatotheres a trial of it02:28
FilthpigK-Ryan: it's piece of cake02:28
jricki like the themes.02:28
jricknice and clean02:28
sichemist|ericsson|: zoom effect: Its in .kde/share/config/kdeglobals02:29
theamazingpotatoand to make it open right click the file then say this is a executable file02:29
K-RyanFilthpig they keep it simple02:29
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sichemistset VisualActivate=102:29
|ericsson|!root | theamazingpotato02:29
sichemistI think02:29
ubotutheamazingpotato: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:29
Filthpigtoo simple imho02:29
K-RyanMaybe, but simple is a nice way to start out.02:29
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K-RyanGetting rid of the whole "Linux is complicated" idea.02:29
SubOnedoes anyone know if there is a way to filter the files shown in digikam? because there are some files that are not images (camera related files i guess) and i dont want my wife copying them by accident.02:29
K-RyanMakes it more user friendly02:29
|ericsson|sichemist: I edit with vi?02:29
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Filthpiglook to the two big OS's (you know which), they put lots of emphasis on design and "fresh" looks..02:30
sichemistyeah.  I found this once before and I think its right, but I'm not certain.02:30
alexandrebrasileiros?02:30
K-RyanWell we have "fresh looks" as well.02:30
Filthpignot by default :s02:30
mahdiwhat plugin do i need for amarok to play m4a's?02:31
K-RyanWell not incredibly fresh by default.02:31
Filthpigno :p02:31
K-RyanBut all you have to do is go into system settings, play around there02:31
K-RyanOr that website, kde-look02:31
K-RyanIt's not that hard02:31
jrickwho else thinks that kubuntu should have an alternative brown look like ubuntu?  I kind of like the brown.02:31
nixternalmahdi: does Amarok currently play mp3s for you?02:31
Filthpig!medibuntu | mahdi02:31
ubotumahdi: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/02:31
mahdivoting yes on brown02:31
K-Ryanjrick you can set Kubuntu up with a brown theme02:32
nixternaleww02:32
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nixternalmmm KDE blue02:32
jrickone is not installed, is it?02:32
K-RyanI liked the brown too, but I prefer the sleek styles I use in Kubuntu02:32
K-RyanLike this silvery theme I've got goin' right now.02:32
mahdinixternal: oh, well i guess it doesn't. whoops.02:32
nixternalthere are a couple of brown/human color thems at https://www.kde-look.org02:32
K-RyanI had a nice orange on black.02:32
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K-RyanAlthough it started to get a little too dark.02:33
jricklast time I looked, there was no brown color settings, unless I made a custom one.02:33
sichemist|ericsson|: Zoom effect: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=392930&highlight=icon+launch+effect+feisty02:33
|ericsson|sichemist: I can't find an entry called zoom effect though :(02:33
K-Ryanjrick, you can make or find.02:33
sichemistset VisualActivate=102:33
sichemist|ericsson|: follow the link02:34
sichemistGotta go eat. (pizza!)02:34
theamazingpotatook02:34
Aloneadamn...vmware wont install without this vmmon module thing...time to search around...02:34
jrickI didn't know kde-look was secure!?02:34
theamazingpotatoi will make a new account02:34
nixternalsichemist: I just ordered mine :)02:34
nixternalpizza that is02:34
theamazingpotatothat way i have two02:34
theamazingpotatoone for root02:34
FilthpigI like mine... black background, transparent taskbar, nuvoX(?) icons and beryl with an emerald theme02:34
theamazingpotatoand one for regular use02:34
nixternalAlonea: vmware server?02:34
K-Ryanjrick, secure?02:34
Filthpiganyone wanna see? ^^02:35
jrickhttps://02:35
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nixternalAlonea: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server02:35
K-RyanI was trying to get Beryl working.02:35
nixternalthere are some sed lines you can use with vmware to make it work with feisty02:35
Filthpigand?02:35
K-RyanGranted I did, but I think because I didn't have my drivers it lagged really bad.02:35
K-Ryan(Video card)02:36
Aloneanixternal: yeah, I am completely new to this and I am trying this out.02:36
Filthpigwhat gfx card do you have?02:36
K-RyanWell at the time it was an Ati Radeon 980002:36
K-Ryan128MB02:36
nixternalAlonea: I will tell you, it could be a headache. I got lucky and it went through like a breeze using that wiki page02:36
nixternalread it through first just to make sure you don't miss anything02:36
K-RyanNow I've got a GeForce 6600 256MB02:36
FilthpigK-Ryan: and now?02:36
Filthpigah02:36
K-RyanBut my proccessor is only 1.8Ghz02:37
nixternalAlonea: and whatever you do, don't use the little anyany hack that is out there, it will kill your vmware installation02:37
Filthpigso is mine ;)02:37
FilthpigI have a gf 7600 gs, but I used to have a ti440002:37
K-RyanOh wow, that's cool02:37
Filthpigno problem at all with 660002:37
K-RyanI'll show you a pic of my old one that was really neat.02:38
Filthpigsure02:38
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Tired_How does one check for Firefox updates in Kubuntu...it seems to be non-functional over here?02:40
Aloneanixternal: ok, have yet to see it. I am attempting to install Mac OSX on here. Ok, on the serial number  thing (which I really don't like doing since it involves giving out personal info), it asking which vm ware products you use. Am I using VMware GSX or ESX Server?02:40
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Filthpigwhut.. K-Ryan DCC failed :s02:40
nixternalya, you need to fill that out somewhat legitamately02:41
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theamazingpotatoi just went into admin mode02:41
jontecTired_: well, I think it might be hard coded or something in 2.0. But whenever there's an update to ABP, I'm notified and I can choose to install the update02:41
theamazingpotatowithout the root sudo help02:41
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jontecTired_: I'm not totally sure... you might check #ubuntu, too... It's a GTK application02:42
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Tired_How about general updates?  Adept is odd...is there an apt-get guide somewhere?  (google was unhelpful)02:42
theamazingpotatohow do i get out of admin mode02:42
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Aloneaok, sorry, my firefox crashed suddenly.02:43
phpcodethat didn't help.02:44
K-RyanSorry Filthpig, had to get the door02:44
Aloneawho was I talking to again? and may I have that link again?02:44
jontecTired_: well, I think Adept is awesome. Do check for updates and then go ahead and search for firefox; if there's an update, then it will be listed for the package02:44
Tired_Can I do it with apt-get in the console?02:44
Aloneaoh nm. there is the link. is in my history02:44
jontecTired_: use `man apt-get` :D Best guide you're going to find.02:44
Tired_*sigh*  I miss the days when the console was desirable02:45
FilthpigK-Ryan: again. Connection timed out :S02:45
K-RyanHmmph02:45
jontecAlonea: do you have flash installed? There's been a lot of problems with the new version and Firefox; my friend is having them. Anything flash related that I come across, I go to a windows comp.02:45
K-RyanHold on two seconds02:45
jrickTired_ you mean just regular updates from the terminal?02:45
Tired_yeah02:45
jricksudo apt-get update02:46
jrickthen02:46
jricksudo apt-get upgrade02:46
Tired_and then to update the packages?02:46
Tired_sweet!02:46
Tired_thanks!02:46
Tired_:D02:46
jrickno prob.02:46
jontecTired_: it is desired, but since you wanted a guide I assumed you were a beginner... and apt-get is not the best thing for a beginner, at least when I was starting (and still isn't too friendly at times)02:46
Tired_i'm a kubuntu beginner, not a linux beginner02:46
Aloneajontec: yeah, I have flash installed with no problems...what does that have to do with vmware?02:46
jontecTired_: gotcha.02:46
Tired_used to portage02:47
jontecTired_: ahh, I see, then you use cli all the time :D02:47
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sylvisjoh man, my beryl is running amazingly slow02:47
sylvisjcan anyone help out?02:47
Tired_yeah.  i'm liking kubuntu, though...things 'just work' more often02:47
jontecAlonea: well, Flash 9 (whatever we're on :D) + Firefox can equal the exits that you are getting, vmware or not02:47
Tired_when my beryl slows down, i switch back to Kwin for a sec and it seems to be faster when I turn beryl back on....02:48
sylvisjhmm, will try it02:48
jontecTired_: basically you just want to use apt-get install or so. I like Adept because I started with KDE and Kubuntu before I leared about gentoo and portage02:48
sylvisjEverything's got some nasty lag with effects02:48
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sylvisjKwin's doing it fine02:49
jontecTired_: I haven't got try the juicy goodness of beryl in feisty yet02:49
Tired_I did have to fiddle with the effect durations before they were pretty but not too slow02:49
sylvisjyeah, I'm gonna have to02:49
sylvisjthis is nuts02:49
Tired_The fire effect takes forever02:49
Aloneajontec: oh, not even on a flash page. I was trying to register and get a serial number for vmware, and then suddenly memory usage went nuts and firefox quit and openoffice complained there wasn't enough memory available to do such and such action02:49
sylvisjMy GMA950 laptop is shitkicking my 8800gts desktop02:49
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sylvisjboth with beryl02:49
Tired_8800gts is slow?  how are the drivers for that?02:50
sylvisj-.- don't ask02:50
sylvisjThey may be why02:50
K-RyanFilthpig, http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3691/snapshot1fk8.jpg02:50
Tired_that might slow things up if they're not mature (i don't know if they are or not)02:50
Tired_my FX 5200 seems perfect02:51
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Skrot-K-Ryan: I like it cleaner; http://folk.ntnu.no/romnes/feisty_oxygen.png :)02:51
K-Ryanthat was when i was new to Linux02:51
sylvisjIt's much better after this reload02:51
K-RyanSo I didn't really know what I could do, or how to do it.02:52
LinkCanabicoTired_ has your fx 5200 a tv in? and if does it work?02:52
sylvisjK-Ryan: what are you using for that sys info up top?02:52
K-RyanHmm?02:52
Daisuke_Idoi don't think any 5200 has a tv-in02:52
Tired_No TV in.  It has TV out, but I haven't tried it yet02:52
Daisuke_Idos-video OUT, yes02:52
sylvisjerm, Skrot-02:52
LinkCanabicomine has02:53
sylvisjwhat are you using for that sysinfo02:53
K-RyanOh okey02:53
Skrot-sylvisj: Kima applet02:53
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jontecAlonea: it doesn't have to be a flash page; just having flash installed02:53
sylvisjAlright, can anyone throw me some tips for speeding up Beryl?02:53
Skrot-sylvisj: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kima+-+kicker+monitoring+applet?content=3325702:53
Aloneajontec: ok..but I have had flash for months without any problems...02:53
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LinkCanabicobut i dont know the capture chipset so no idea how to make it work02:54
jontecAlonea: then it may not be flash, but that's just a check that I do. I had problems with it back on 6.0602:54
Aloneajontec: ah. well, this is the first time I have seen firefox crash like this, so I doubt its flash. I am just trying to get vmware installed and working at the moment02:55
Tired_LinkCanabico: does nvtv work for that?02:55
jontecTired_: I'm not sure. (I'm not even sure if that's nVIDIA or ATi, I got my ATi running fine after the package. Have you installed any proprietary packages yet?)02:55
LinkCanabicoTired_ no idea what nvtv is can you explain?02:56
jontecTired_: but, of course, I haven't had any chance to test my card for its performance.02:56
AloneaOK, I followed that page that someone gave me and when I click on the vmware icon, it goes to the loading phase, and then goes off...02:56
theamazingpotatohow do i make a new user02:56
LinkCanabicoyes nvidia driver02:56
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Tired_LinkCanabico: nvtv is the thing that makes the tv-out on nvidia cards work (awkward explanation, I'm not familiar with it as I should be)02:57
LinkCanabicoTired no prob thanks il look into it02:58
Tired_jontec: Oh yeah, I have nvidia drivers and flash installed...not sure what else might be proprietary on here02:58
Tired_LinkCanabico: it's in the repos02:58
jontecTired_: I was just speaking about proprietary for the card, sorry.02:58
Tired_jontec: Then yeah, I have the drivers all installed.  They were pretty easy in Feisty02:59
Aloneaanyone??? man, this is why I hate installing things from the ubuntu package source things...02:59
FilthpigK-Ryan: hey, I was goofing about, trying to record my desktop while I was fooling about.. I like your desktop, but I'd suggest getting some new icons?03:00
LinkCanabicoTired im on fedora now i just prefer the Kubuntu forum il check as soon as im home03:00
FilthpigI think the defaults are a bit dull ;) but that's me03:00
Filthpig:] 03:00
Tired_Oh, they'll have it, too03:00
K-RyanI don't really use my desktop for anything03:00
K-RyanSo I don't mind it to be honest03:00
sylvisjSkrot-: How the heck did you get it to show up at the top left, off of the panel?03:00
Skrot-sylvisj: I just added it there :>03:01
sylvisjHow?03:01
Skrot-"off of the panel" btw?03:01
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sylvisjaway from kicker03:01
sylvisjyou had the taskbar at the bottom and kima at the top03:01
Skrot-I've got two panels, one on top and one on the bottom03:01
sylvisjhow'd you pull that off?03:01
theamazingpotatobye03:02
Skrot-Right click the panel at the bottom of the screen -> add new panel -> panel and drag it to the top if you want a panel on the top of the screen03:02
jontecFilthpig: they're classicly awesome. I look for them everytime I step into KDE.03:03
Filthpigeach has his own taste03:04
Filthpigluckily ;)03:04
Aloneaanyone here successfully put on vmware on fiesty before?03:04
FilthpigAlonea: I guess so. I'm using kvm/qemu right now03:05
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jrickI perfer to have a mac style menu at the top.  It's 4-5 time's faster to put the mouse there b/c it's it the edge of the screen.03:05
sylvisjok, ty03:06
sylvisjso now then03:06
sylvisjNeed help installing vmware03:06
phpcodewhen i try to open Adept package manager, i get an error thar says that it maybe some other programs that are Adept-programs, apt-get or aptitude. But i only have opend firefox and mirc.03:06
sylvisjIt's saying that something is already installed03:06
hsystem-x.03:07
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AloneaFilthpig: ok, well, I installed it through adept, but it doesn't load03:08
jhutchinsAlonea: vmware isn't just a program that you load.03:09
hsystem-x.03:09
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jhutchinsAlonea: There's a lot more to it than that.  There is a #vmware support channel, but they'll probably set your underwear on fire if you haven't red the docs first.03:09
snakehi all03:10
snakei just installed feisty and beryl in it but i get the cube all white03:10
snakewhen i open beryl03:10
Aloneajhutchins: I mean the vmware server console thing doesnt load. As in, when I click on it, it goes to loading phase then stops...just trying to get to some point where it asks for the serial number the instructions said to get03:10
Tired_snake -> check your video drivers03:11
snakeok03:11
snakethnx03:11
sylvisjYeah, I'm trying to get vmware server to install03:11
eloihi, how can get vnc in kubuntu??03:11
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sylvisjI had already tried installing vmware-player, removed it and apt-get auto-remove'd the old stuff... but it's still saying there's old vmware software installed03:12
jrickdoes parallels have anything for linux, or just vmware?03:12
jhutchinsAlonea: I would expect to run servers from a console.  Try it there, you may get useful error messages or other feedback.03:12
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jhutchinsAlonea: Probably necessary to do initial setup from the console - but spelling vmware is about the extent of my actual knowledge, I'm just going off general linux technique.03:12
sylvisjjhutchins: Mind helping me actually get it installed?03:12
jhutchinssylvisj: I wish I could, but as above, all I know is linux basics, I don't know vmware at all.03:13
jontecphpcode: try `sudo apt-get update` and see if apt-get has anything helpful to say... (a restart might help, but not if it is open right now :D) there maybe packages that aren't fully conifgured03:13
sylvisjhmm, k03:13
jontecconfigured*03:13
Aloneajhutchins: ok. i think what may be the problem is I was trying to install it the normal way from source, but did not know it was not for fiesty, so its partially installed, but not configured at all because of the module thing.03:13
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jhutchinsAlonea: can you sudo make uninstall?03:14
Aloneajhutchins: i dunno. you ran a .pl file to install it in the first place..03:14
eloihi, how can get vnc in kubuntu??03:15
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Aloneajhutchins: though I honestly hate adept at the same time...especially when it uninstalls extra things.03:16
jhutchinsAlonea: You may be able to read through the perl script and figure out what it did, but best bet is finding someone who's been there.03:16
phpcodejontec: thx :-)03:16
jhutchinsAlonea: Since this is generic vmware questions, not feisty specific ones, they might be able to help you in #vmware, nobody here seems to be speaking up.03:16
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jontecphpcode: did it work? don't say thanks unless it did, ;)03:17
Tired_I tried to get VMWare working, but it wouldn't, so I gave up.  No help from me.03:17
jhutchins!vnc | eloi03:17
ubotueloi: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX03:17
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phpcodejontec: it did work :-D03:18
Tired_Althon x2's are awful cheap now03:18
jontecphpcode: okay, good then :D03:18
Aloneajhutchins: ok, I got it uninstalled.03:18
jhutchinsExcellent!03:19
Aloneajhutchins: it was on the page that told me how to install it on adept. in case you had a source installation..gonna try installing it again on adept.03:20
FilthpigTired_: but buying a new cpu means a new motherboard, a new mb means a new gfx card, new, faster ram, a more powerful psu...03:20
jhutchinsAlonea: Great!  Good luck!  I'm gonna go help out in the kitchen.03:21
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Aloneajhutchins: alrighty03:21
Filthpigand a new cpu fan (those boxed fans aren't very silent oO)03:21
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Filthpigso a new cpu for me = a new computer03:21
Filthpig= more than I have to live for in a month03:21
Tired_i just got a new cpu, mobo, and ram for less than $20003:22
Tired_onboard video, but I had an old agp card around03:22
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Filthpigmb with agp support?03:22
Filthpigin 2k7?03:22
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K-RyanHey guys, I just hopped on my friend's laptop and I'm setting up Kubuntu.03:23
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K-RyanNow during installation, he wasn't hooked up to the internet and I03:23
FilthpigI guess I've got an hour left03:23
Filthpig:s03:23
Aloneao....k...now there is not a VMWare server console in my menu...03:23
K-Ryanam having trouble enabling repos03:23
Tired_Filthpig, AGP and core 2 duo support03:23
K-RyanTips?03:23
FilthpigTired_: what mb is that?03:24
Tired_Asus P5PE-VM03:24
K-RyanI'm in the Adept Manager for the repos, I don03:24
K-Ryan*don't quite remember exactly what to do seeing as I did this forever ago.03:24
FilthpigK-Ryan: the laptop is on the net now?03:24
jrickfeisty?03:24
K-RyanYeah I hooked it up03:24
K-RyanWireless doesn't work.03:25
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AloneaK-Ryan: what card you got? I have to ndiswrapper mine..03:25
K-RyanNo idea03:25
jrickadept -> manage repositories03:25
AloneaK-Ryan: lspci should tell you03:25
K-RyanMy friend says its an integrated.03:25
K-RyanAlright, hold up03:25
K-Ryanjrick I'm there, but uncommenting isn't working.03:26
AloneaK-Ryan: the name will be under the one labelled Network Controller03:26
jrickin feisty?03:26
ayande__anyone that knows what i need to install in order to send mail through my php script on website?03:26
jrickor dapper?03:27
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K-Ryan0000:05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)03:27
K-RyanMy main concern right now though is enabling these repos.03:28
jricksudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:28
K-RyanAh yes, let me try that.03:28
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FilthpigTired_: thanks for the tip, I'll keep it in the back of my mind until I get rich ;)03:31
Tired_;)03:31
Tired_I compute on a budget also03:31
Tired_just upgraded from Pentium 3 a month ago03:32
tmbgwow. welcome to like. the early 90s. or something.03:32
K-Ryan!adeptcrash03:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:32
K-Ryan!adeptfix03:32
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:32
jrickK-Ryan: you may need to sudo apt-get update03:33
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K-Ryanuhh03:33
K-Ryanyeeeeaaaahhh03:33
K-Ryan=)03:33
FilthpigTired_: The motherboard you've got is Intel, right?03:33
FilthpigI'm kind of an AMD guy03:33
FilthpigAMD and nvidia03:33
Tired_yeah03:33
Tired_but it was cheap03:34
Filthpighehe03:34
Filthpigyeah03:34
Filthpigit's damned chep, really03:34
Filthpigoh well03:34
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reya276helo03:36
reya276hello03:36
jrickneed help?03:36
reya276yes03:36
reya276I recently converted from windows vista, so I'm new to this OS03:37
jrickneed to find your way around?03:37
reya276although the GUI seems the same there are somethings that I can't seem to do03:37
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DruntarHello03:38
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reya276I need to install Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0, but it keeps telling me I do not have enough permission03:38
jrickhow are you trying to install it?03:38
DruntarIs there someone who can help me with an internet issue?03:38
jrickand doesn't kpdf do what you need it to?03:38
reya276by clicking on the Install file03:39
K-RyanIs there an easy command to tell Kubuntu to update itself? Right now this laptop is running Dapper, I need to get it to Feisty.03:39
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K-RyanOr do I have to change the repo lines and blah blah blah03:39
reya276I get the terminal window03:39
Tired_Druntar: We won't know until you ask.  :)03:39
jrickwhat's the install file's extension?03:39
Filthpig!feisty | K-Ryan03:39
ubotuK-Ryan: Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php03:39
reya276and then it asks me to create the adobe directory, then that's when I get the messege of not having permission to do so03:39
K-RyanI'm upgrading though03:39
reya276I can't see it03:40
K-RyanFrom Dapper, is there a direct way?03:40
reya276how can I see the file extension03:40
FilthpigK-Ryan: not through update03:40
Druntarlol Good point. Well the issue I'm having is I'm using kubuntu from the live cd. I've tried it on my parents PC with no problems, but my computer seems to have internet connection issues when I run it. I had to log back into windows to get on here to ask.03:40
jrickroll your mouse over the icon.03:40
jricka tooltip should appear03:40
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jrickextension is on the end after the period03:41
reya276it says "Shell Script"03:41
killermach_ok.. I have a fresh install of fiesty kubuntu.. but I don't see how to activate the desktop effects.. any help?03:41
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jrickoh boy.03:41
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jrickjust a sec.03:41
K-Ryan!edgy > K-Ryan03:41
reya276sure03:41
Filthpigkillermach_: what desktop effects? Beryl?03:42
reya276oh boy what?03:42
jrickshell scripts are messy if your new to linux03:42
Druntaranyone have any ideas what it could be03:42
reya276really03:42
DruntarI'm so new its scarry. Only my second day03:42
jrickhave you tried kpdf?03:43
killermach_Filthpig: I suppose so, I had an install of Edgy 6.1 and updated it to 7.04 and there appeared a menu option System -> Preferences -> Desktop effects, that gave the wiggle windows03:43
Filthpigreya276: you know Kubuntu comes with a PDF viewer on it's own? It's called KPDF and is very good03:43
reya276I should be ok, I'm a web developer so I think I can figure this out03:43
killermach_now I've done a fresh install from a 7.04 download ISO and cannot find it03:43
jrickkmenu - graphics - kpdf03:43
K-Ryanwhat's the kubuntu version of gksu "update-manager -c03:43
K-Ryan"03:43
K-Ryan?03:43
reya276the issue with me is that I do not know what all these things mean, since I'm use to wincrap03:44
Filthpigkillermach, you'll be wanting beryl, then03:44
reya276nope03:44
Filthpig!beryl | killermach_03:44
ubotukillermach_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:44
crazy_busI'm confused.  I received nation geographic video podcasts in akregator.  Each video had a description and a link to the video.  However all the links have disappeared.  The descriptions are still on my computer but the links aren't.  Why would this happen?03:44
jrickon the bottom left corner is the kmenu. (start menu)03:44
reya276I manage to update my Graphics Card Drivers for my intel chip set so I think I should be ok03:45
DruntarI'm guessing no one has a clue why I can't connect to the net?03:45
Druntarwhen using kubuntu03:45
jrickok, well that doesn't mean I can handle it.03:45
FilthpigDruntar: you'll have to find out what network card you have03:45
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jrickI much perfer to use the Debian package system03:45
reya276ok then you want me to go to Add/Remove03:45
Filthpigthen you can google it03:45
Druntarit's an onboard network adapter on an asus p5nsli board03:46
jrickno, I just checked, it's not in there.03:46
Simeon_Hhmm... anyone know how to get hardware acceleration with the Ati Radeon mobility M6 LY03:46
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LinkCanabico Simeon use the ATI drivers03:46
jrickfrom adobe's web site, is there a download special to ubuntu or debian (.deb)?03:46
reya276I have KPDF installed03:46
jrickwill that workL03:47
jrick?03:47
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reya276I just opened it03:47
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reya276well it does not have all the Features of Acrobat Reader03:47
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jrickok, well check for a /package/ to download from adobe.03:48
jricklike .deb or .rpm03:48
Druntarhmmmm could it be a firmware issue maybe?03:48
dsmithwhat are the ubuntu dvds?03:48
dsmithrepositories?03:48
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reya276my only issue with this OS(Ubuntu) that I can see is this Install thing, if is not on the Add/Remove then your screwed03:48
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reya276unless you are a Linux Guru03:49
Druntarno not really03:49
Druntaryou're not giving yourself time to learn anything03:49
jricknot really, you can install the script with instructions, or if there's a package, you can install that.03:49
dsmithI'm not a linux guru and I handle the cmd line fine03:49
Druntaryou're just jumping into it and expecting it to work like windows03:49
K-Ryanreya376 I thought the same thing when I first started03:49
K-RyanIt's really not that bad and I actually prefer using the repos as to downloading a file and installing03:50
reya276how do you install a package?03:50
K-RyanMuch more convinient03:50
dsmithsudo apt-get03:50
K-RyanYou can go into Adept, or sudo apt-get install03:50
jricksudo dpkg -i <file>03:50
K-Ryanin the terminal03:50
Druntarfrom the command line03:50
Druntaror you can use adept03:50
BluesKajwell , I'm pretty fed up with ati graphics ...what a decent graphics card that will do 3D accellerated images and still not be too $$...not a gamer , but I like my Google Earth , which I just can't seem to get working on feisty03:50
dsmithI prefer the repos as well03:50
DruntarI'd go with a geforce 750003:51
FilthpigDruntar: your card is a Marvell 88E8001 PCI Gb LAN controller... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=538725 this url might give you a hand03:51
dsmithNvidia03:51
Druntarpretty solid card03:51
Druntarthank you filth03:51
Filthpignp03:51
Druntarbut how do I use that when I'm on the live cd03:51
Filthpigtinker!03:51
Filthpig:)03:51
dsmithhah03:51
Druntarlol03:52
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Filthpigwell03:52
dsmithinstall the card to your mobo03:52
Druntarthe card is onboard03:52
dsmithexit your xorg03:52
dsmithedit I meant03:52
dsmithupdate your drivers03:53
Tired_is there a program in the repos that will give me comprehensive info on the ram currently in my system, kinda like CPU-Z or wCPUid does in Windows?03:53
jrickok, first do a sudo apt-get install alien03:53
FilthpigTired_: there are loads of widgets in SuperKaramba03:53
dsmithTired superkaramba03:53
Tired_sweet  :)03:53
Filthpigthey give you loads of info03:53
jrickthen from Adobes site, download the .rpm03:53
Filthpigor you can look at www-kde-apps.org03:53
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dsmithI use these 2, light and liquid weather03:54
jrickreya276: listening?03:54
dsmithwhats the difference between the cd and dvd ISOs for ubuntu?03:54
jrickreya276 open the konsole, and type 'sudo apt-get install alien'03:55
dsmithalien loves rpms03:55
dsmith:)03:55
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dsmithYummm03:55
jrickyeah, there's no .deb03:55
jrickhaha yum03:56
Tired_uh...this superkaramba looks less like a RAM information program and more like Konfabulator.  I just need to know what week my RAM was made03:56
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Druntarwell I'm off to see if any of that helps03:56
dsmithwell, once it spits it back out it is a .deb03:56
FilthpigTired_: uh?03:56
jricki get the feeling like no one is listening to me...03:57
Tired_i don't want a monitor to tell me how much ram is in use, I need to know detailed info about the chips themselves03:57
FilthpigoO03:57
FilthpigKInfoCenter?03:57
Filthpigotherwise.. Browse kde-apps.org03:57
Tired_Something that reads the SPD data03:58
dsmithcrack open the case and read the number on the ram stick03:58
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Tired_I find it hard to believe there is nothing in the Ubuntu repos that will tell you the CAS numbers...03:58
dsmithand then look it up on the manufactuers website03:58
reya276How do I go to a directory in Terminal03:58
Tired_dsmith -> you're kidding, right?03:59
jrickkmenu - system - konsole03:59
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jpiccoloanyone know how to make my server's ftp transfer go faster?03:59
dsmiththats what I did04:00
reya276sorry dude I was trying to figure the Acrobat Stuff totally forgot about the chat window04:00
dsmithjpiccolo, port trunking?04:00
jrickin konsole, run 'sudo apt-get install alien'04:00
jrickand give password04:00
reya276ok I did this what did I just installed ? sudo apt-get install alien04:00
jpiccolodsmith, this is on lan04:00
jrickalien will convert .rpm's into deb's04:01
reya276ok is done04:01
Tired_I'm not going to dig my case out of the clkoset for that.  It would be easier to install Windows just to look, but I can't believe there is no overclocking utilities in Ubuntu.04:01
jrickdownload the .rpm from adobe.04:01
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jpiccoloTired_, are you trying to overclock you video card?04:01
reya276and this will anable me to install apps easy or do I still have to use the console04:02
Tired_No, I want to know the CAS latency, the week of manufacture and the other SPD data of my RAM.04:02
jrickyou still need the konsole04:02
reya276ok let me download it now04:02
jrickSAVE the .rpm04:02
jrickok, I'm downloading it also, so I can see what you will be going through.04:03
jrickkind of slow...04:03
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reya276ok I saved in to my Desktop04:04
jrickok, in konsole, type 'alien AdobeReader_enu-7.0.9-1.i386.rpm'04:05
reya276yes it is very slow, there site is slow period, man I wish they had dreamwaver for Linux, that would be awsome04:05
reya276Dreamweaver04:05
jrickwait, before you do that, 'cd Desktop'04:05
reya276before I do what04:06
reya276I started downloading to that location04:06
jrickdo 'cd Desktop'04:06
jrickthis will change you from Home to Desktop04:06
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reya276oh crap that's how you change directories, just like DOS04:06
jricknow 'sudo alien AdobeReader_enu-7.0.9-1.i386.rpm'04:07
reya276ok  did that04:08
jrickdo 'ls'04:08
jricklike 'dir' in dos04:08
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jrickwhat's the file name with the .deb extension?04:08
reya276it says 'hostname: Unknown host' and is just sitting there04:08
reya276let me check04:09
jrickafter you did what?04:09
reya276adobereader-enu_7.0.9-2_i386.deb04:09
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jrickis that with caps?04:09
jricklinux is case sensitive04:10
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reya276nope04:10
DruntarHello folks04:10
reya276hello04:10
slougii think alien automatically converts names to lower-case04:10
Druntarcomin at ya live from kubuntu04:10
slougiiirc04:10
Druntardon't know what I did but I have internet now04:10
slougithe internet's pretty convenient isn't it? :)04:10
jrickok, now 'sudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.9-2_i386.deb'04:11
DruntarI love it04:11
Druntarlol04:11
slougiteh intarnetz04:11
Druntarnow I have another probelm04:11
jrickfix caps if necessary.04:11
slougifire away04:11
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jrickoh, btw, <shift><insert> pastes into a konsole.04:12
reya276there are no caps that's how it was generated by the console04:12
DruntarI want to convert to linux, but don't want to lose all my personal files on my windows install. I have no way of backing up that data. Is there a way to resize my existing ntfs partition to make it a dual boot?04:12
jrickdid you run that last command?04:12
slougiDruntar: yes, although I do not recall the specifics right now, one sec. checking on the convenient internet :)04:12
reya276running it now04:13
jrickgood.04:13
reya276ok it stopped04:13
jrickwhere?04:13
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jrickreading database?04:13
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slougiDruntar: here is one procedure that should work: http://www.nishants.net/articles/ntfsresize.htm04:14
DruntarI love free tech support04:14
reya276no it did that already04:14
reya276I guess is done04:14
jricknow check on kmenu for Acrobat04:14
slougiDruntar: resizing ntfs has basically three steps: (1) defrag it in windows to move all data to the beginning of the partition, (2) resize the file system itself, and (3) resize the partition which holds the file system04:15
Druntarhmmm I'm on vista though04:15
slougiDruntar: most important is to realise that (2) and (3) are separate steps04:15
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slougiDruntar: that shouldn't make a difference really04:15
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reya276oh is there but when I try to run it, it says 'Failed to execute child process "acroread"(permission denied)04:16
Aloneaok, vmware installed!04:16
Aloneaand it seems to work now.04:16
slougiDruntar: maybe the installer even knows how to automatically do that now...04:16
jricktry 'sudo acroread'04:16
Aloneanow I have a question. Is it possible to install a new vm on an external hard drive?04:16
reya276you mean in to console04:17
jrickyes04:17
reya276that gives me04:17
reya276command not found04:17
Druntarwould qparted be able to do it?04:17
Druntarit's already defraged04:17
jrickon the kmenu, right click on acrobat04:18
jrickclick properties04:18
slougiDruntar: possibly yes, just remember to run it from the livecd04:18
Druntarthat's what I'm on now04:18
jrickuh, edit item.04:18
slougiDruntar: right04:18
DruntarHonestly I don't want to even keep windows04:18
slougiDruntar: i'd just give it a try and see if it complains04:18
jrickwhat does the command box say? (in the kde menu editor)?04:19
reya276well I can seem to get a properties box when I right click04:20
reya276can't04:20
jrickedit item04:20
reya276you know I'm using Ubuntu right04:20
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jrickubuntu or kubuntu?04:21
reya276unbuntu04:21
reya276ubuntu04:21
jrickoh, I thought you were on kubuntu b/c you're on the kubuntu channel.04:21
jrickuh, than where did you get konsole from?04:22
reya276see names are too similar04:22
reya276confused now, but hey atleast you got it to install04:22
jrickubuntu -> gnome.   kubuntu -> kde04:22
reya276and though me how to do it, thanks04:22
jrickdoes it run?04:23
reya276see too many flavors, I'm use to XP or Vista04:23
reya276that's it04:23
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jrickcan you run acrobat?04:23
reya276nah it says permission denied04:23
jrickwhat happens when you right click it?04:23
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reya276I get 3 menus04:24
jrickis edit item one of them?04:24
reya276no04:24
jrickwhat are the three choises?04:24
reya276is basicly asking me to create shortcuts for it04:24
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jrickok, I think your on gnome, not kde.04:25
jrickwait, what version?04:25
jrick6.06 or 7.0404:25
jrick(or 6.10)04:26
reya276yes it is Gnome04:26
reya2767.0404:26
jrickok, in prefrences, open menu editor04:26
jrickor something simular,04:26
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jricki don't have gnome in front of me04:27
jrickSystem - Preferences04:27
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reya276ok04:27
jrickin Alacarte (I think that's what it's called) select Acrobat04:28
jrickalacarte is the menu editor04:28
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jrickwhat is under command?04:28
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jrickhuh, wierd. Acroread is the command, but when under superuser (sudo) it can't find the command.04:31
naliothmind your letter case04:31
jrick(acroread is lowercase)04:32
reya276ok let me try it again04:32
se7enhow do i rip a dvd with k3b04:33
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TeeBaggieHey, can someone tell me where to put my fonts?04:35
jrickum, yeah.  that's about the wierdest thing I have seen linux do.04:35
TeeBaggie?04:35
slougiTeeBaggie: ~/.fonts04:35
slougii.e. the .fonts dir in your home directory04:36
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TeeBaggie Ty.\04:36
jrickand sudo /usr/bin/acroread doesn't work either.04:36
slougijrick: what does `which acroread` say?04:36
jrickhuh.04:36
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jrickabsolutely nothing.04:36
slougiTeeBaggie: run fc-cache -fv afterwards to immediately update font data,  it'll take a minute or two otherwise04:36
jrickdo i need sudo?04:36
TeeBaggie?04:36
slougithat command should show you where the binary is located04:37
TeeBaggiefc-cache?04:37
dasnipaerm dumb question how do i tell my sys tray to not stack icons and instead display just on one line?04:37
TeeBaggie in the run command?04:37
slougiTeeBaggie: yeah "fontconfig cache updater tool"04:37
slougiTeeBaggie: yeah04:37
slougidasnipa: it'll stack icons automatically if there is space for that, not sure if you can turn that off04:38
TeeBaggiewhere exactly do i put fonts? im new to linux :P04:38
jrickfakeroot doesn't work either.04:38
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dasnipaslougi: hm there has got to be...04:38
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slougiTeeBaggie: just right-click -> actions -> install :)04:39
TeeBaggieex. /home/brandon/.fonts?04:39
slougiTeeBaggie: on the .ttf04:39
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TeeBaggieok04:39
TeeBaggie:)04:39
johanhallo04:39
johangood morning04:39
johan:)04:39
slougiand select personal if it's just for you, or system wide if for all users04:39
johani need some help here04:39
TeeBaggieyay! ty04:40
jrickany ideas how to get acroread working?04:40
slougiTeeBaggie: np :)04:40
johani have kubuntu on my scsi hard drive in /dev/sda204:40
TeeBaggie Can someone help me w/ steam?04:40
Tired_Question:  if I shut down my system, physically remove the hard drive with Kubuntu, replace it with a totally different drive, then later, I want to reverse the process, will the kubuntu install be affected at all?04:40
jricksorry reya276, this is really confusing04:40
johanand i install windows on /dev/sda104:40
TeeBaggieI think its just the font, but i have no text, i used wine04:40
johanbut now i cannot run my kubuntu04:40
slougiTired_: if you don't touch the HD, it will not be affected04:40
Tired_:)04:40
slougiTired_: pretty logical, no? :)04:41
johanbecause when i restarting the pc i cannot found os selection04:41
johanhow can i run my kubuntu?04:41
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slougijohan: you must reinstall the kubuntu boot manager (it is called GRUB)04:41
TeeBaggieyup, font.04:41
TeeBaggiety all04:42
slouginp04:42
johanhow to do that?04:42
Tired_lol, the only logic in my bizarrely un-logical problem.  i have to install windows for a minute so I can access my hardware, before I can go back to Kubuntu.04:42
reya276is ok, I'll do some digging04:42
johancan i install grub from my  live cd?04:42
slougijohan: I am just checking if there is an easy way for that, one minute04:42
reya276thanks04:42
slougijohan: yes04:42
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johanok04:42
johanthanks04:42
jrickok, I have to go, so hope everything works out fine.04:42
slougijohan: if you boot from the livecd and come on irc i can walk you through it, it's not very difficult but entails some command line stuff04:42
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dsmithHmmmm ran.... sudo apt-get upgrade and I get this pop box... Upgrade...Cancel or Allow?04:43
slougiTired_: sounds good :)04:43
johani am booting with live cd right now04:43
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slougijohan: ok cool04:43
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slougijohan: i'll be off the comp for a minute or so, hold on :)04:43
johanok04:43
ubuntuhey slougi04:43
ubuntuthis is druntar04:43
reya276ok thanks04:43
ubuntuforgot to commit the partition changes04:44
ubuntuso now I'm waiting on that04:44
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Druntarok qparted seems to have locked up after I hit commit04:48
slougijohan: ok, first thing, open a terminal04:48
johanok :)04:48
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slougiDruntar: sure it's not just grinding the drive?04:48
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Druntarwell the windows have all locked up04:48
Druntarand are non responsive04:48
slougihmm weird04:48
Druntarwell not unresponsive04:49
slougijohan: got the terminal?04:49
DruntarI can move them around but I minimized it for a second and when I reexpanded they are all blank04:49
johanyes04:49
slougijohan: ok, type sudo -i to begin with so we don't have to say sudo all the time. tread carefully, you're now in root mode04:49
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johandone04:50
slougiDruntar: hmm, well I don't really know what to say to that04:50
Druntar<shrug>04:50
slougijohan: ok. where did you say you had install kubuntu? /dev/sda2?04:50
johanyes /dev/sda204:50
slougiok04:50
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slougitype mkdir <something>, mkdir temp will do04:51
slougijust create a temporary directory04:51
slougiafter that, mount /dev/sda2 temp04:51
johanwait04:51
slougiwhich will mount your ubuntu filesystem on the temp dir04:51
slougiok04:52
slougiDruntar: still locked up?04:52
johanmount: can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab04:52
DruntarI'm guessing it's just doing it's thing my hard drive light hasn't gone out since I started it so maybe it's doing it's thing04:52
Druntarjust let it run04:52
slougiyeah let it sit for a second and see if it comes to its senses04:53
johanwait04:53
johanit work04:53
slougiok cool :)04:53
johanso what next?04:53
slouginext step, cd temp04:53
slougii.e. go into the dir04:53
johanok04:53
slougitwo commands next:04:53
slougimount -t proc proc proc04:53
slougi(yes you need all those procs :)04:53
slougiand mount -t sysfs sys sys04:54
johandone04:54
slougiright04:54
slougihmm, do "mount -o loop /dev dev" just to be sure04:54
slougiI am not 100% if its required but it does not hurt04:54
slougi100% sure04:54
johan--- /dev: Is a directory it said04:55
slougithen do "cd .." to back out of the dir again04:55
slougiah sorry04:55
slougi-o bind, not -o loop04:55
Druntarso ummm <twiddles thumbs>04:55
slougiDruntar: kmenu -> games :)04:55
Druntarlol04:55
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Druntardon't have games since it's live cd04:56
slougijohan: still with me?04:56
johani cannot found my temp dir04:56
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slougijohan: type pwd, what does it say?04:56
DruntarI'd have to jump on adept and snag some04:56
johanpwd04:56
slougiDruntar: damn livecd :)04:56
johanit said /04:56
slougijohan: i mean the output of that command04:56
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slougiok, type ls04:57
slougido you see a directory called temp?04:57
johanno04:57
johanbut tmp04:57
slougino that's different04:57
slougitype just "cd"04:57
johani cannot find temp04:57
slougiand then see with ls if there is a temp dir there04:57
johanyes04:58
yotuxis there a good place to find out how to allow amarok to play a large variety of media formats?04:58
johan:)04:58
slougiok cool :)04:58
slougitype "ls temp", you should see stuff like usr, lib, bin, home, etc.04:58
slougiyotux: yes, on the ubuntu wiki04:58
slougiyotux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats04:59
johanyes04:59
slougijohan: cool, half-way there :)04:59
slouginow, this is an important step04:59
slougitype "HOME=/root chroot temp /bin/bash"04:59
johanhome=/root chroot temp/bin/bash04:59
johansorry04:59
slougithe caps are important :)05:00
slougias are the spaces05:00
johanok05:00
slougithere should really be a button "REINSTALL GRUB PLZ"05:00
Druntarcrap05:00
slougiDruntar: ?05:00
johanchroot: cannot change root directory to temp/bin/bash: Not a directory05:00
johanls05:00
Druntarok someone want to explain why my mouse keeps going out?05:00
Druntarit'll take a reboot to get it going again05:00
Druntarand I can't do that right now05:01
slougijohan: as I said the spaces are important05:01
Druntarlogitech g5 laser mouse05:01
slougiDruntar: hmm... type alt-space to bring up katapult, type konsole, in the konsole type dmesg to see kernel output. anything interesting on the last lines?05:01
Druntarthought I had it fixed but when I opened the add/remove programs it went out again05:01
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slougijohan: got it?05:02
johanHOME=/root chroot temp/bin/bash like this?05:02
johanls05:02
slougino, there is a space between temp and /bin/bash05:02
slougiie "HOME=/root chroot temp /bin/bash"05:02
Druntarend_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 005:02
johandone :)05:03
slougithat's just floppy stuff05:03
slougijohan: cool :)05:03
johanls05:03
slougijohan: type "update-grub"05:03
johanbut i havent done the bind thing isit ok?05:03
intelikeychroot temp su -       :)05:03
Druntarwell I can't scroll up to see anything else05:03
slougijohan: it should be05:03
johanit said done05:03
slougiintelikey: the HOME env var gets set wrong sometimes05:04
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intelikeythat's what the su -  was for05:04
slougiintelikey: right05:04
johanfindfs: Unable to resolve 'UUID=0886ace5-a458-4d5c-9e5f-44e496e697d7'05:04
johanCannot determine root device.  Assuming /dev/hda105:04
intelikeyputs you in a root "login" shell05:04
slougijohan: ouch05:04
slougistop05:04
slougiintelikey: we already are05:05
Druntarnothing looks like it would be related to the mouse05:05
Druntarit's all bluetooth and eth0 stuff05:05
slougijohan: type "exit"05:05
slougiDruntar: not sure then05:05
johandone05:05
DruntarI'm starting to think it's the damn mouse05:05
slougijohan: do "cd temp"05:05
johanyes05:05
Druntardoes linux support plug and play maybe if I unplug it and replug it in05:05
slougijohan: do "mount -o bind /dev dev"05:06
slougiDruntar: if it's usb it should work05:06
johanmount or bind?05:06
slougithe command is mount, -o bind is an argument to it05:06
intelikeyslougi no i mean on the chroot.      i was just pointing out a more system specific way.     using  su -  in the chroot sets all the env according to that systems root account  just as if you had logged into it in the console05:06
johandone :)05:06
slougiintelikey: yeah i got that, and i'll keep it in mind for the future. for now we had already done sudo -i before05:07
intelikeywasn't trying to start a fight.05:07
slougiyeah no worries :)05:07
slougijohan: ok cool, now "cd .." to go back up one level05:07
johanok05:07
slougithe dots are important05:07
johanok two dots :)05:08
slougijohan: then the chroot thing again, let's take intelikeys suggestion :) "chroot temp su -"05:08
johanjust like that or use Home=.. ?05:08
Druntarok when I unplugged it got "usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 205:09
slougijust like that, it's a better way05:09
Druntarafter plugging back in now power to mouse and no response from kernel05:09
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johancannot execute binary file05:09
johanwait wait05:09
johandone05:09
slougiok05:09
slougido the update-grub thing again05:09
Druntarman that hard drive live is still going05:10
Druntarlight*05:10
slougiDruntar: are you resizing it now or what exactly?05:10
johansearching for grub inst dir found /boot/grub05:10
Druntarit's supposed to be resizing the ntfs partition and freeing up the 100 gigs or so that'll be left05:10
osirisyeah.  that takes time05:11
osirislots of time05:11
johantesting for an existing grub menu.lst found /boot/grub/menu.lst05:11
Druntarok that explains the qparted seeming to lock up05:11
Druntarnow what about my mouse lol05:11
osirisyep05:11
slougijohan: then found kernels, updating menu.lst?05:11
osirisleave it05:11
johanfound kernel :/boot/vmlinuz05:11
johanye05:11
johanyes05:11
slouginice05:11
slougijohan: one second05:11
Druntarthe kernel isn't even recognizing me plugging the mouse back in05:12
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intelikeyusb mice05:12
Druntaryeah05:12
Druntarlogitech g5 laser mouse05:12
Druntarkeeps bugging out05:12
Druntarit'll just stop working for no reason05:13
intelikeycheck the log files ?05:13
Druntarand takes a reboot to get it working again05:13
Druntardon't know how to do that05:13
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Druntarslougi had me open konsole and type dmesg05:13
intelikeybrowse /var/log/  cat any-log.file05:13
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Druntarlol ok only my second day in linux please be a bit more clear if you can05:14
intelikeymessages and xorg in particular05:14
johancan i reboot now?05:14
slougijohan: one second05:14
slougijohan: type grub05:14
johanok :)05:14
slougi:)05:14
johandone05:14
slougitype "find /boot/grub/stage1"05:15
johan(hd1,1)05:15
Aloneawhy is it when I delete files off my external harddrive, that it puts the recycled files on my main harddrive?05:15
slougiok05:15
AMDfanboyhey guys, is automatix cool?05:15
intelikeyDruntar  open a konsole and type this;   for Q in /var/*xorg* ;do tail $Q ;done | less05:15
slougijohan: now type "root (hd1,1)"05:15
johandone05:16
slougijohan: you want the boot menu when you first start the computer right?05:16
johanyes05:16
slougiok, then type "setup (hd1)"05:16
intelikeyDruntar that will get you the last 10 lines of each xorg log file in the 'less' pager   you can scroll up and down  page or  even search in there.   hit q to exit less05:17
johanit said succeeded05:17
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slougiintelikey: afaik X isn't really concerned with the input devices directly, just the /dev entries05:17
slougijohan:  ok cool :) type "quit"05:17
johanok05:17
slougijohan: then type "exit"05:17
johandone05:18
slougijohan: then we have to unmount the filesystems we mounted before05:18
Aloneaok, not to get pissy, but how does something so simple as a recyling bin keep on getting messed up? It says now that it cannot read such and such file05:18
johanok05:18
slougijohan: so go back into the temp dir: "cd temp"05:18
johanok05:18
Druntarsays tail; cannont open "var/*xorg*" for reading: no such file or directory05:18
intelikeyslougi is the kernel or the xserver dropping his mouse ?05:19
slougiandh them "unmount proc", then "unmount sys", then "unmount dev"05:19
slougiintelikey: i would presume the kernel, afaik X just responds to events from /dev/input/foo05:19
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intelikeyDruntar did i type that ?   /var/log/*xorg*   was what it should have been05:19
johanunmount or umount?05:20
slougijohan: sorry, my bad. umount.05:20
johanok05:20
dsmithi have a usb drive that wont auto mount no longer05:20
johandone05:20
dsmithI did a package upgrade last night05:21
intelikeyslougi noted.  lets see if xorg is whining then we'll look at dmesg05:21
Druntarsame thing05:21
slougijohan: then "cd .." to back up one, and "umount temp" to unmount the linux partition. then just reboot and report back :)05:21
slougiintelikey: good point05:21
johanok05:21
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johanthank u slougi very very much05:21
Druntarsame message05:22
slougino problem. I hope they will make this a one button operation in the future.05:22
slougidsmith: do other usb drives still automount?05:22
Druntar<screams at his stupid mouse>05:23
intelikeyDruntar ok sorry.   i'm still half asleep here.    lets try one more time.    for Q in /var/log/Xorg* ;do tail $Q ;done | less05:23
dsmithI dont have any other swith me at this moment05:23
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intelikeyand yes i tested that it should work05:23
dsmithI looked in /mnt and I have just the cd-rom05:23
dsmithI did rcently reformat this drive in NTFS from FAT3205:23
dsmithshould not mater though05:24
Druntarsame thing05:24
slougidsmith: hmm, if you plug it in and look at the ouput of "dmesg" (ie kernel messages) does it say anything about the usb device?05:24
DruntarI'm thinking its because I'm on a live cd05:24
intelikeyDruntar :)   now he tells me.05:24
intelikeyyeah might be.05:24
Druntarlol slougi knows so I figured since he knew that and if he thought that was teh problem he'd tell you05:25
intelikeyDruntar ok     dmesg    see what the end of that tells us05:25
Druntarhe made no mention so I thought it unimportant05:25
slougiwell, why would a livecd affect that? i am not all-knowing :)05:25
Druntarsweet qpart says it's done05:25
slougiargh05:25
intelikeyno reserve log files to see what happened before the reboot slougi05:26
dsmithslougi: ok it does mention the USb drive05:26
Druntarwell qpart is done so I can reboot now05:26
Druntarthat will fix it for now05:26
dsmithit does pickup the model name even05:26
slougiintelikey: ah right. sorry, was distracted.05:26
Druntaronce I get linux installed we'll work from there05:26
slougidsmith: ok, so at a kernel level it works05:26
intelikeyDruntar good plan05:26
slougidsmith: is HAL running?05:27
dsmithlooked like it attempted a few times05:27
Druntarok going to reboot05:27
dsmithHAL?05:27
dsmith!HAL05:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:27
Druntarhow do I do that lol I don't want to hard reboot05:27
slougithe hardware abstraction layer05:27
slougidsmith: quick way to check: "ps aux | grep hal"05:27
slougishould list a number of processes05:27
intelikeyctrl+alt+f1   &&&  ctrl+alt+del05:28
intelikeyDruntar   ^05:28
dsmithacpi, keyboard, storage05:28
dsmith  ...  /usr/lib/hal05:29
dsmithappears so05:29
intelikeybye Druntar05:29
slougiyes05:29
slougiintelikey: familiar with the HAL automount stuff?05:29
intelikeyno05:29
slougicrap, me neither05:29
intelikeyautomatic crap tic's me off.....05:30
dsmithheh05:30
intelikeyso i avoid it05:30
slougiintelikey: well, err05:30
slougiah05:30
slougiwhat dirs do you have in /media?05:30
dsmithcdrom005:30
slougiok05:30
slougilet me just quickly check what locally happens when I plug in a usb stick05:31
slougione sec05:31
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dsmithas I remember it shows a folder05:31
dsmithlike sda105:31
slougiyes I meant on a system level05:31
dsmithoh05:32
intelikeyi'm not sure what's what there   but <dsmith> I did rcently reformat this drive in NTFS from FAT32  <<<  yes that matters.05:32
intelikey!ntfs05:32
dsmithhmmmmmmmmmm05:32
intelikeyoh bot desync'd ?05:32
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:32
slougishouldn't it still mount ro?05:34
intelikeyif it was "setup" in fstab.  no.05:34
dsmithone sec05:34
intelikeyif not "maybe"...05:34
slougiyeah...05:35
dsmithreloading ntfs-3g05:35
dsmithbrb05:36
intelikeyor should i say   if ! grep vfat /etc/fstab ;then echo maybe ;fi05:36
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johanhello05:37
johani'm back05:37
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johanslougi05:37
johanr u there?05:37
johani try to boot grom my hard disk05:38
johanit said error 15:file not found05:38
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johani cannot enter my windows to05:38
intelikeyjohan let me review what slougi had you do and see if i notice anything that might help.   give me a sec05:39
johanpk05:39
johanook05:39
slougijohan: does it say that immediately on boot?05:39
kalorin`anyone use the aegis virus scanner?05:39
johanyes05:39
johanwhen i choose kubuntu05:40
kalorin`it keeps finding files on my windows stuff that are "infected" witW32/Magistr.a@MMh05:40
johanthen error 1505:40
johanfile not found05:40
kalorin`but symantec doesn't find those05:40
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slougijohan: aha, but the menu does come up?05:40
kalorin`seems odd05:40
johanyes05:40
snakehi .05:40
slougijohan: second05:40
johani have to hard disk05:40
johanbefore my mbr was on my 1st05:41
johanand kubuntu in my second05:41
snakei installed beryl in feisty but i can not see the decoration of the windows. the minimize , close and maximize buttons05:41
slougijohan: ah well, that info would have helped a lot05:41
slougijohan: so you changed hd order?05:41
johanyes05:41
slougijohan: how was it before and how is it now?05:41
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johanwhen i change to boot from second hd the menu comes up05:41
cables!effects | snake05:42
ubotusnake: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.05:42
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Aloneaok, is there a limit for file size on the trashcan that can be set? I have tried again and again to delete this file thats a little over 3 gigs without success05:42
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johanbut when i choose 1st hd its automatically boot the windows05:42
slougijohan: ok it would have been good to know that before05:42
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johansorry :(05:43
slougino problem, let me just check a thing or two so we can fix it :)05:43
johanbut i like to put my mbr on my sec hd05:43
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kalorin`alonea, how about rm -f <file> from a command prompt?05:43
johanif its ok05:43
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johan:)05:43
slougijohan: well yes "it's ok" :) just a matter of setting it up that way05:44
johanok05:44
intelikeyslougi and johan  sounds like his /boot/grub/device.map  and /etc/fstab   will both need edited to reflect the changes05:44
slougiso what you want is for the first harddrive to boot straight to windows, and the second to give you the grub menu?05:44
slougiintelikey: yes, i was not aware he had changed disk order05:44
johan:)05:45
johansorry my bad05:45
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Aloneakalorin`: *sigh* that would take a while..not to mention I am just trying to go through my drive and free up some space. just kind of annoying to have to go back and forth from the terminal and konqueror to see what I want to get rid of05:45
slougino worries johan05:45
slougionly problem is I need to leave soon05:45
slougiintelikey: would you walk him through it?05:46
Linux_GaloreAlonea: install kleansweep05:46
johanoh05:46
intelikeyAlonea kdesu konqueror05:46
slougii need to leave for work in a bit05:46
kalorin`alonea, how would that "take a while"05:46
kalorin`I don't get it05:46
kalorin`opening a command prompt and going ot the directory where the file is would "take a while"05:46
intelikeyslougi you can.05:46
kalorin`the rm -f <file> command would take about 20 seconds05:46
slougijohan: ok let's try to do this quickly05:46
johanok05:46
Aloneaintelikey: I know that, I am having trouble with the trashcan...it keeps messing up or failing to delete large files05:46
johan:)05:46
slougijohan: have you booted from the livecd?05:46
johanyes05:47
slougiok nice05:47
Aloneakalorin`: I dont have one file. I have many files to delete.05:47
slougiwe need to do the mounting stuff again05:47
johanok05:47
kalorin`learn about file name masks/05:47
Linux_Galorethere is actually a kde app that cleans out your system for you, its called kleansweep05:47
kalorin`or a little bash scripting05:47
kalorin`or if they'r eall in the same directory rf -fr <directory>05:47
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AloneaLinux_Galore: what do you mean by cleans out system?05:47
kalorin`<---- never seen a file he couldn't delete05:47
slougijohan: so, once again "sudo -i", "mkdir temp", "mount /dev/sda1 temp"05:48
intelikeyAlonea close konq and in the konsole  sudo rm -R ~/.trash     or ~/.Trash   which ever it is.   and  ln -s /dev/null ~/.trash      do what you need to do then rm the link05:48
Linux_GaloreAlonea: removes uneeded files or blank files, bad links files that are doubled up on etc05:48
johandone05:48
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slougijohan: nice05:48
AloneaLinux_Galore: I will look at it. just dont want it to delete something I might need05:49
johan:005:49
johan:)05:49
Linux_GaloreAlonea: cleans out tmp files and your trash, very similar to the windows system manager tool05:49
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slougijohan: "cd temp", "mount -t proc proc proc", "mount -t sysfs sys sys", "mount -o bind /dev dev", "cd .."05:49
AloneaLinux_Galore: alright. will run that and see what happens05:49
ayande_Does anyone know what I should do in order to make phpmail work?05:49
Linux_GaloreAlonea: it gives you a list before it does anything05:49
johanwait05:49
slougijohan: ok :)05:49
johanmount: mount point proc does not exist05:50
Linux_GaloreAlonea: you can even tell it what files types to ignore05:50
slougijohan: did you do "cd temp"?05:50
AloneaLinux_Galore: well, thing is I dont know what a lot of these files are in my home folder are and what they are for.05:50
johanyes05:50
slougijohan: with "ls" what files do you see?05:50
Linux_GaloreAlonea: you can query each one and it will tell you why it is listed05:50
johanits my windows partition files05:51
johanwindows05:51
slougijohan: ah, ok05:51
Linux_GaloreAlonea: even colour codes them too05:51
AloneaLinux_Galore: thats really nice. installing it at the moment. gui?05:51
slougijohan: "cd ..", "umount temp"05:51
slougijohan: linux was on sda2?05:51
johanyes05:51
slougiok, remembered wrongly05:51
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Linux_GaloreAlonea: yep it has a gui its a kde app heh05:52
slougijohan: so after the umount do "mount /dev/sda2 temp"05:52
johandone05:52
slougiok05:52
slougijohan: "cd temp", "mount -t proc proc proc", "mount -t sysfs sys sys", "mount -o bind /dev dev", "cd .." :)05:52
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AloneaLinux_Galore: goodie. i dont mind the terminal, but sometimes its frustrating.05:52
johandone05:53
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slougijohan: cool05:53
johan:)05:53
slougijohan: what does "cat temp/boot/grub/device.map" output?05:53
Linux_GaloreAlonea: all apps beginning with a "K"  are GUI apps05:53
slougiLinux_Galore: not quite all, but most05:53
johanhd05:53
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Linux_Galoreslougi: Ive never seen a k-app thats cli05:54
slougijohan: just "hd"?05:54
johan(hd0) /dev/hdc (hd1) /dev/sda05:54
DragnslcrI'd say most apps beginning with a G are GUI apps as well05:54
mattchewieHey all, I was wondering is the restricted devices manager in Kubuntu?05:54
Dragnslcr"K" for KDE-made, "G" for Gnome-made05:54
slougiLinux_Galore: kconfig_compiler kconf_update for example05:54
Druntarwell I'm back05:54
hakaisouis there a way that I can test to see if my Microphone can hear me?05:54
Druntarmouse is working again05:54
AloneaLinux_Galore: ok, guess that makes sense. i just don't kknow why some programs can't have a gui. I mean, some I can kind of see, but others it just makes it a hassle to figure out the exact command to do a simple task05:55
slougijohan: ok one second05:55
Linux_GaloreDragnslcr: the problem with G is allot of gnu cli stuff begins with G05:55
johanok05:55
Druntarand qparted worked now I just need to get linux to instal05:55
intelikeyjohan and grub boots on which ?05:55
mattchewieas does GTK apps...05:55
DragnslcrLinux_Galore- true05:55
hakaisouis there a way that I can test to see if my Microphone can hear me?05:55
intelikeyjohan the ide or the sata/scsi  ?05:55
johansata05:55
DragnslcrAlonea- heh, welcome to the world of *nix05:55
johanmy linux05:55
johanthe mbr was on ide05:56
Druntarok here's the prob I'm on the live cd and when I click install on my desktop it locks up at choose language05:56
intelikeythen it needs to be 0   (assuming you are changing bios to get it to boot that disk05:56
DragnslcrAlonea- making graphical interfaces for *nix programs so that non-geeks can use Linux is relatively new05:56
johanyes05:56
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AloneaDragnslcr: heh. though I think my biggest pet peev is programs that have guis, but dont put themselves in the K Menu.05:56
Druntarok mouse stopped again05:56
slougijohan: intelikey: that's exactly what i wanted to check05:56
intelikeyyeah you need to switch the 0 and 105:56
Linux_GaloreAlonea: well its because how UNIX works, Unix apps in general are built like lego so they have a command line toolset and then someone creates a graphical front end for those things05:57
makuseruhow can i figure out wht harddrive (brand and model) i have?05:57
DragnslcrAlonea- yup, that's pretty annoying05:57
slougiit's been too long since I really fiddled with grub05:57
AloneaDragnslcr: really? I don't know C ++yet, but I am learning Java and guis are quite easy. Just didn't think it was that hard, thats all.05:57
slougijohan: so switch the two arguments around05:57
johanhow?05:57
intelikeyyeah i'd use lilo for that.   doesn't care so much about bios just real phisical addressing.05:57
AloneaDragnslcr: especially when you install a bunch of things, then forget about what you installed05:57
slougiintelikey: you need to use a text editor to edit the file, nano for example05:58
slougiwhoops05:58
slougijohan: you need to use a text editor to edit the file, nano for example05:58
intelikey:)05:58
intelikeyyeah05:58
slougiintelikey: sorry :)05:58
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johanok edit what file05:58
mattchewiemakuseru - alt+f2, type in konsole and at the prompt type in lspci05:58
johandevice.map?05:58
slougijohan: yes05:58
johani can use pico05:58
makuserumattchewie: thanks05:58
DragnslcrAlonea- simple GUI's for simple CLI programs are pretty easy to make, it's just that nobody has bothered for a lot of them05:58
slougijohan: if it is installed use pico. if not, use nano. it is _exactly_ like pico.05:59
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intelikeyit's a symlink to nano05:59
johanso what should i change?05:59
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mattchewiemakuseru - bah nevermind, I was thinking of how to get the chipset for you HD :( DOH!05:59
slougiintelikey: ah wasn't aware of that05:59
DragnslcrI love nano05:59
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Linux_Galoreone*05:59
DragnslcrSo much easier to deal with than vi and emacs06:00
slougijohan: switch the 1 (one) and 0 (zero) in the hd0 and hd1 entries06:00
intelikey(hd0) /dev/hdc  \n (hd1) /dev/sda  >  (hd1) /dev/hdc  \n (hd0) /dev/sda06:00
johanok06:00
Linux_GaloreDragnslcr: also has less features than both emacs and vim06:00
AloneaDragnslcr: ah. ok. well, when I program, I pretty much go with the "must assume user will be complete idiot" way of thought. So even if the program does not have a gui, I try to make it easy to understand.06:00
johanthen save?06:00
slougijohan: yes06:01
makuseruhow can i figure out wht harddrive (brand and model) i have?06:01
DragnslcrOne of my professors in college talked about the religious wars between vi and emacs. I'd just sit in the back and think about how much I hated them both06:01
johandone06:01
intelikeyAlonea good practice.   never under estimate the stupidity of an end user06:01
slougiintelikey: i am not sure if grub needs to reinstalled, do you know?06:02
Linux_GaloreDragnslcr: nano is fine until you want to debug a file and it cant highlight any errors when both vim and emacs can06:02
intelikeyslougi no it doesn't06:02
slougithat's what I was thinking, thanks06:02
slougijohan: just unmount the partitions and reboot06:02
johanumount temp?06:02
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AloneaDragnslcr: but I think what really frustrates me the most is terminal programs that I really don't understand, and then documentation does not exist. I dont care if the program is a simple calculator program. I want documentation.06:02
intelikeydid you check his fstab ?06:02
DragnslcrLinux_Galore- which is why I try to not deal with code in a shell06:02
slougiintelikey: ah right06:03
intelikeyjohan wait06:03
slougijohan: sec06:03
slougii really need to leave, sorry06:03
johanok06:03
intelikeyslougi go.06:03
slougithanks06:03
AloneaDragnslcr: and a lot of times the program -? doesn't help as much as I would like06:03
johanthanks slougi06:03
slouginp johan06:03
DragnslcrAlonea- yeah, documentation can be scarce for some stuff. Definitely makes things a lot more difficult06:03
intelikeyjohan cat temp/etc/fstab06:03
hakaisouwhat is the CLI command to change which sound card you broadcast through?06:03
Aloneaintelikey: indeed. I am a user myself and can miss something that is really simple to someone else06:04
Linux_GaloreDragnslcr: ide's are ok but most "new code" even at Microsoft isnt created in an IDE, (actually Microsoft uses emacs)06:04
DragnslcrThat's why you have to be brave. I try not to worry about completely hosing my system06:04
intelikeyjohan are they  /dev/hd*    or  blkid  ?06:04
johan# Entry for /dev/sda2 :06:04
johanUUID=0886ace5-a458-4d5c-9e5f-44e496e697d7 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 106:04
intelikeyk that's fine.06:04
johan# Entry for /dev/hdc1 :06:04
DragnslcrEmacs isn't an editor though, it's a flippin' operating system06:05
johanUUID=3d7d28cd-6583-4b06-a5f2-5e2e08f69f63 none swap sw 0 006:05
intelikeyyeah you can reboot.06:05
johanok06:05
Linux_GaloreDragnslcr: ide's are nice but they also create nice "C" average code, and trust me the proff's  can see that your work has been done in a ide from a mile away06:05
johanso i must not change my fstab?06:05
makuseruhow can i figure out wht harddrive (brand and model) i have?06:05
intelikeynot needed06:05
johanok06:05
johanthanks i'l be right back06:05
AloneaDragnslcr: I just find not making documentation is lazy and bad form. I may not always like doing it, but I would rather do it so people can easier understand the program and use it, than have a bunch of people not use it because they don't understand06:06
DragnslcrEr, my code doesn't look any different just because I use an IDE to write it06:06
hakaisouwhat is the CLI command to change which sound card you broadcast through?06:06
DragnslcrText is still text06:06
intelikeymakuseru lshw06:06
Linux_GaloreDragnslcr: modern IDE make you confrom to a method often this method is stupid considering the projects aims06:06
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DragnslcrAlonea- won't argue with that. Lucky for me, I've never really released any of my personal projects, so I haven't had to write much documentation for them06:07
johanjust reboot?06:07
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johandont need to umount?06:07
intelikeyjohan you not back yet ?06:07
johanmo06:07
johanno06:07
johan:)06:07
johani havent reboot06:07
intelikeyjohan the reboot process will umount all devices06:07
johanok06:07
johanthanks06:07
AloneaDragnslcr: same here. but my professor wants it, and I find it a good habit. Also on IDEs, I don't find the code any different either...what do you use? I use eclipse.06:08
DragnslcrLinux_Galore- I dunno, the IDE's I've used are pretty much just text editors that automatically indent blocks and can autocomplete names06:08
yotuxwhere are fonts stored in kubuntu?06:08
mattchewiemakuseru - you still around?06:08
DragnslcrAlonea- yeah, I write plenty of docs for stuff I do at work06:08
yotuxI install mstruefonts and can't seem to find them06:08
hakaisounevermind I figured it out.06:08
makuserumattchewie: yea06:08
Linux_GaloreDragnslcr: wait till you get your hands on some of the $$$$ IDE's, bloody things write the code for you just about06:08
intelikeyyotux installed it how ?06:09
DragnslcrWe use Zend IDE at work. I used Visual Studio Express when I did some C# at home06:09
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yotuxapt-get install06:09
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mattchewiemakuseru - get your answer?06:09
DragnslcrLinux_Galore- heh, I'll pass, thanks06:09
yotuxI need to add one more font to debug a wine program06:09
Linux_GaloreDragnslcr: VS is very prone to producing rubbish, good for debugging though06:09
intelikeythen either /etc/something/  or /usr/something   but you should have no need to look there.  what are you wanting to do with the fonts ?06:10
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makuserumattchewie: no06:10
AloneaLinux_Galore: really? damn..even I am not that lazy. I mean, I am still learning and appreciate it when eclipse points out a forgotten semicolon, and the debugger is nice, but there are even more advanced ides out there like you describe?06:10
Linux_GaloreAlonea: yep06:10
yotuxintelikey:  I want to add one more font to the mstruefonts06:10
intelikeyah use in wine....     hmmmm06:11
DragnslcrIt didn't seem too bad. I only used the wysiwyg part for laying out containers and stuff, though. I generally wrote all the functionality parts myself06:11
yotuxintelikey:  I use quicken sorry06:11
mattchewiemakuseru - looks like intelikey did send you the command, but its lshw, unless you know that your drives are sata, then you can cat /proc/scsi/scsi06:11
Linux_GaloreDragnslcr: Ive spent many an hour cleaning up crap from lazy VS developers06:11
DragnslcrI've seen the results of HTML generators though. That's some hideous stuff06:11
makuserumattchewie: it is SATA06:12
intelikeywell yotux   find / -type f -iname 'msttf*' 2>/dev/null06:12
makuserumattchewie: thanks, just what i needed06:12
Linux_GaloreDragnslcr: yeah, I hate HTML dumb ass tools06:12
mattchewiemakuseru - np06:12
DragnslcrI think the best parts of VS were the tab-completion and automatic renaming06:12
AloneaLinux_Galore: scary...I just use Eclipse because I the teacher uses Jcreator...which I hate. Its nice to me because of the debugger, multiple languages, and I can do my documentation in the same program. Don't think I need anything more advanced than that.06:12
yotuxintelikey found them06:13
mattchewieAnyone run Feisty on an 8800GTS?06:13
Linux_GaloreAlonea: Im not saying they are total crap, just in the wrong hands they product lots of crap\06:13
mattchewieor 88 series in genreal :D06:13
DragnslcrRename a method and it finds all places where it's called and changes the name for you06:13
Linux_GaloreDragnslcr: emacs does all that06:14
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st1ckly78does anyone know what plugins i need to play aac format in amarok06:14
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intelikeyvi mc jed joe emacs all do that06:14
Linux_GaloreDragnslcr: I can rename all the variables at once and it will even find suspect pointers06:14
hakaisou!flv06:15
rizzaanyone know about preseeding06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
mattchewie!nvidia06:15
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:15
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intelikeyrizza very little    but ask anyway06:15
AloneaLinux_Galore: I can see people doing that. I can also see it taking away the true creative process and most of the actual writing process that comes from the programmer. At least I know now when people go off on IDEs, they mean those types.06:15
AloneaLinux_Galore: well, that KleanSweep is still going. Over 500mb so far.06:16
Linux_GaloreAlonea: I use those types of IDE but mainly for debugging, I wont touch the things when it comes to new projects06:17
rizzadoes auto work and can I use apt-cacher with ubuntu net install06:17
Linux_GaloreAlonea: yeah, you must have set it to look at the whole system heh06:17
intelikeyas to the las06:17
intelikeyt part yes.     not sure about the other06:18
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AloneaLinux_Galore: yeah. I can see that. oh, probably yes. but I have so much random crap from the 3-4 times I have reinstalled, that a good cleanup is what I need.06:18
Linux_GaloreAlonea: be carefull with stuff in you users tmp directory, some things are there as page markers06:19
AloneaLinux_Galore: ok. I will. most of the stuff is from my home folder though.06:19
rizzaI've tried to use apt-cacher with the installer with no luck same preseed file with debian proper and works perfectly06:19
rizzachanged for debian repos of corse06:20
Linux_GaloreAlonea: I would leave anything in /etc  alone too06:20
intelikeyit seems like the repos addressing is different and that might affect it...06:20
Linux_GaloreAlonea: unless they were bad links06:21
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hakaisou!DVD06:21
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs06:21
underdog5004bleagh, I love skype, but whenever I call someone after I've been using a multimedia player, it locks my machine up for 5 minutes...CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE/CTRL-ALT-F[1|2|3|4]  don't help either...06:21
AloneaLinux_Galore: I plan on leaving most of the stuff from the root partition alone.06:21
intelikeyyou know the stable testing -vs- main universe   the dir structure is not the same.   iirc.06:21
Linux_GaloreAlonea: well the orphaned links your ok with06:22
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intelikeycaution06:22
underdog5004any ideas? I'm using ALSA on an intel ICH5 soundcard, although I'm using a plantronic usb headset for all skype sounds...06:22
intelikeythat's not always so Linux_Galore06:22
Aloneaunderdog5004: even magical sys rq does not work? (assuming your computer locks up and you have to press power button)06:22
Linux_GaloreAlonea: orphaned links are usually created due to an update not cleaning up properly06:22
soulrider_!7zip06:22
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression06:22
intelikeythat thing can rm symlinks that are actually still in use06:23
rizzaVery clear on that and think the the ubuntu installer ignores my apt-cache for some reason06:23
Druntarok here's my new problem. when I click on the install icon on my desktop on the kububtu live cd it locks the comp up06:23
Linux_Galoreintelikey: not if you restrict it to orphaned links06:23
Druntarit locks up on step 1 and won't let me do anything else with the install06:23
AloneaLinux_Galore: so far, no orphaned files06:23
underdog5004Alonea, never tried sys rq...I never thought of it...06:24
intelikeyoooh yuch06:24
Aloneaunderdog5004: Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring ^_____^06:24
intelikeyDruntar are you sure it's locked ?  not just slow ?06:24
underdog5004uh... RSEUB?06:25
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underdog5004BUSER?06:25
Druntarseems locked to me06:25
soulrider_!iso06:25
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.06:25
Aloneaunderdog5004: RSEIUB06:25
Druntarmaybe I'm just being impatient I'll try again06:25
underdog5004alonea, please explain...06:25
intelikeyAlonea so is fattening jaguars06:25
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Aloneaunderdog5004: ok, to do a safe reboot with the magical sys you hold down I thin alt + sys rq, then type in those letters.06:26
Aloneaunderdog5004: google magical sys and there is a wiki page about it.06:26
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Aloneaunderdog5004: it will tell you more about it and more commands.06:26
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intelikeye u b06:26
underdog5004gotcha...thanks.06:26
underdog5004but...no solution? lol06:27
Aloneaunderdog5004: sorry...dont do video chat on here because webcam does not work on here06:27
intelikey!sysrq06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sysrq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
Druntarok well I guess I'm going to go cook some ramen while I wait06:27
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underdog5004Alonea, I'm only interested in voip06:28
intelikeyDruntar shouldn't take but 2 minutes max.06:28
underdog5004voice, not video06:28
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intelikeyDruntar if it's not moving in that time it's hung06:28
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underdog5004anyway, I've gotta go pick someone up...bbl06:29
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makuseruHi, i recently bought a SATA drive, and the manual says it should get 300mb/s but im only getting 55mb/s, am i doing somthing wrong?06:29
Aloneaunderdog5004: oh sorry, thought you were using video cam on skype. a bit silly today.06:29
intelikeymakuseru might tweek the "hdpram" a bit and see what you come up with     check dmesg and see if  DMA is working on it06:30
Druntarwell it's been running since I said I was going to start some ramen06:31
Druntarso almost 5 mins and still not moving06:31
intelikeyDruntar what kind of specs ?06:31
Druntarpentium D dual core 3 ghz06:32
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Druntar1 gig of pc 5700 ram06:32
Druntar250gb hd06:32
intelikeyp99 3zillion ghz   yeah... nough.06:32
Druntarlol06:32
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DruntarI just built it 3 months ago06:32
makuseruintelikey: the only thing that i saw that said dma in it was [17179577.244000]  eth0: dma_rwctrl[763f0000]  dma_mask[64-bit] 06:33
Druntarwiat06:33
Druntarit's moving yay06:33
intelikeyit was just a a thought.   low mem problem   but you shot that down.06:33
intelikeymakuseru then turning on dma should help06:33
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intelikeyhdparm --help | less06:34
Druntarguess I just didn't wait long enough06:34
makuseruintelikey: was that command for me?06:35
intelikeymakuseru heh yeah but drop the pipe it outputs to stderr06:35
makuseruok06:35
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intelikeyDruntar how long would that be ?06:36
makuseruintelikey: and what is it i need to do?06:36
Druntarabout 6-8 mins for it to load the language list I'm on step 4 now06:36
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Druntarok should I select guided use the largest continuous free space?06:37
Druntaror manual06:37
Druntar?06:37
intelikeymakuseru prolly read the man page cause i'm not going to walk you through breaking your new drive   ;/06:38
makuseruwait? breaking it?06:38
makuseruwhy wont it transfer at 300mb/s like it says it will?06:38
tobyhow do i put an msn account on this thing???06:39
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intelikeyDruntar you mean it takes it longer on a   p99 3zillion ghz 1000T ram   system than it does on my p1 100mhz  ????  </blinks>06:39
Druntarpraying this doesn't break my vista till I get my files off06:40
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Druntareveryone cross your fingers06:40
makuseruill cross them that vista breaks06:40
Daisuke_Idono need, vista's broken already06:41
intelikeymakuseru if it was mine.  i'd turn on dma  and see what it did.  but it's yours and i can't afford to buy it if you break it.06:41
Druntarhey I still need my personal files off that vista install06:41
makuseruhow do i turn on dma?06:41
Daisuke_IdoDruntar: do it soon :)06:41
osirishttp://wickedtribe.homeip.net/screenshots/5_5_07.png06:42
intelikeyi think the command may be  hdparm -d  something or another06:42
Daisuke_Idoand the purpose of that screenshot was?06:43
osirisim bored06:43
Daisuke_Idogood reason :)06:43
osirisstaring at my net monitor06:43
intelikeythat's what  ##windows is for osiris06:43
osiris=)06:43
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makuseruosiris: is that winamp?06:44
osirisnope06:44
osirisxmms06:44
makuserui use to use that skin when i had winduhs06:44
makuseruxmms can use winamp akins?06:44
osirisyep06:44
osirisold ver 3 ones06:44
makuserudidnt know06:44
makuseruoh well, i like amarok over xmms06:45
osiristo heavy for me06:45
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jpiccoloif i have alot of RX errors, would that cause a slow lan file transfer?06:46
yhsoft12who is korea user of ubuntu ??06:46
johntHey folks: I am trying to get k3b working. My first problem is that totem will not plat MPEG files so how to fix please??06:46
intelikeyand i can do play lists, randomized, loop, and all the cools stuff just no eyecandy06:46
Druntarcrap mouse went out again06:47
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Druntarthat's going to have to be the first thing I fix once I get this installed06:47
joe7d6Hi. I'm investigating security implementation on ubuntu 7.04. hows the security features in ubuntu compare to the following distros? http://en.opensuse.org/Security_Features http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security/Features  thanks in advance :)06:47
intelikey!mpeg06:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:47
joe7d6Hi. I'm investigating security implementation on ubuntu 7.04. hows the security features in ubuntu compare to the following distros? http://en.opensuse.org/Security_Features http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security/Features  thanks in advance :)06:47
joe7d6ignore apparmor which i despise :p06:47
yhsoft12help me, are you linuxer?06:47
osirisyes, just not korean06:48
Druntarlinuxer?06:48
yhsoft12ah.....06:48
underdog5004yay, I'm back...06:48
makuseruintelikey: i do "hdparm -d " and it just lists the man06:48
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intelikeymakuseru man hdparm06:48
intelikeyor ask someone else06:48
yhsoft12please teach me, install vmware for linux.06:49
yhsoft12continue, put string error message."06:49
intelikeyyhsoft12  sudo apt-get install vmware-player06:49
yhsoft12i'm not speak english very well06:49
yhsoft12ok06:49
dsmith!ntfs06:49
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:49
dsmith!ntfs06:50
yhsoft12i do it06:50
yhsoft12but06:50
yhsoft12drror messang06:50
yhsoft12error06:50
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yhsoft12message06:50
johnt!k3b-plugins06:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about k3b-plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:50
yhsoft12um..06:50
yhsoft12c header file06:50
yhsoft12error..06:50
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yhsoft12incorrect directory06:50
yhsoft12T _t06:50
underdog5004johnt, what do you need?06:50
intelikeyo,O06:50
redfivewhats the best way to install beryl?06:51
osirisyhsoft12, i think you need a -dev package for a lib.  can you paste the error in a paste bin ?06:51
yhsoft12no, i'm not used beryl06:51
underdog5004redfive, follow the guide @ www.beryl-project.com06:51
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underdog5004redfive, unless you're using feisty...06:51
yhsoft12um.. just moment. i'll be back.06:51
osirishttp://rafb.net/paste06:51
underdog5004I've had _really_ luck w/ feisty and beryl06:51
underdog5004g'night06:52
johntunderdog: i want to burn a dvd and I am gettting error msgs fro k3b and if I try to save image to disk totem cannot read mpeg1 file06:52
dsmithis writing to NTFS suppoted?06:52
Druntar<twiddles thumbs while waiting>06:52
osirisjohnt, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 and a few other packages first06:53
johntunderdog: need to know which plugins or files i need to d/l06:53
Druntar60% there......06:53
intelikey!ntfs > dsmith06:53
johntosoris: neat which others do I need?06:54
intelikey!ntfs-3g > dsmith06:54
dsmithintelikey I read that06:54
dsmithI should have said is writing to NTFS safe?06:54
dsmithcomment in Konsole said no06:54
osiris!restriced formats > johnt06:54
AloneaLinux_Galore: on duplicated files, does it just put the extra version, or all versions on it?06:54
intelikeysafe as in safe sex   or safe as in money in the bank06:54
dsmithlol06:54
intelikeyerrr bad analagy  neither are safe06:55
osiris!restricedformats > johnt06:55
dsmithi got you06:55
yhsoft12sir ?06:55
dsmithok after sudo fdisk -l, I found the drive as sda106:55
dsmithinstalled diskmounted in its visible now in RO06:56
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osirisyes ?06:56
johntosiris; the bot did msg me  thanks06:56
dsmith*diskmounter06:56
Linux_GaloreAlonea: not sure to be honest06:56
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intelikeyyou installed ntfs-3g ?06:56
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yhsoft12What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernal? [/usr/src/linux/include] 06:56
dsmithyep06:56
osirisyhsoft12, you need the kernel sources06:56
yhsoft12okay06:56
dsmithintelikey: yes06:56
yhsoft12may be06:57
yhsoft12kernal source update ?06:57
intelikeydsmith  mount | gerp dev/sda106:57
AloneaLinux_Galore: hmm...I think it does put all versions..which is kind of a bad thing (not that I have removed such files yet or anything)06:57
intelikeywhat it says ?06:57
dsmithhahah gerp06:57
intelikeywell untypo that06:57
yhsoft12intelikey06:57
yhsoft12um..06:58
dsmith    /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000,user=dsmith)06:58
dsmithits working06:58
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yhsoft12i execute that line06:58
yhsoft12notthing put screen06:58
Linux_GaloreAlonea: if you not sure uncheck it06:58
Linux_Galoreyou are*06:58
intelikeyok looks like you need to umount it and edit the /etc/fstab    type should be  ntfs-3g06:59
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AloneaLinux_Galore: i know, but its a bit of a pain when there are over 3000 duplicated files.06:59
yhsoft12now umount?06:59
dsmithi am not concerned about it being read/write06:59
dsmithI prefer not farking my box07:00
intelikeyyhsoft12 sorry that was for dsmith07:00
Linux_GaloreAlonea: just stick to the ones in your home directory07:00
AloneaLinux_Galore: these are the ones in my home directory. I redid it just for the /home/07:00
dsmithI suppose I could get another usb drive and format as ext307:01
AloneaLinux_Galore: @@07:01
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axidentAnyone able to help me with a dual boot issue?07:01
yhsoft12hu...... linux is very hard for beginners.. i'm 15 years old.07:01
Linux_GaloreAlonea: there will be allot of duplication in the .kde and .gnome  directories because they are theme or icons files so they all have the same name07:01
Aloneaaxident: depends. what is going on?07:01
AloneaLinux_Galore: ok. anyway I can have those folders ignored?07:02
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intelikeyyhsoft12 yes  /usr/src/linux/include  should be right.    you may need to install  linux-headers-<your kernel arch>07:02
Linux_GaloreAlonea: yep just uncheck them or look or just set the filter options to ingore duplicates07:02
yhsoft12um... just moment07:02
Linux_Galoreoops07:02
AloneaLinux_Galore: well, part of the problem is on the duplicated files, it is NOT saying where the files are located.07:03
Linux_GaloreAlonea: yep, just uncheck them or set the filter options to ignore duplicate07:03
intelikeydsmith setting up the fstab correctly will make it automount with read/write access and the dmask= fmask= will give your users access07:03
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dsmithintelikey: I was reading about that but it seems perhaps risky07:04
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Linux_GaloreAlonea: you should be able to query each one07:04
dsmithI will read about it some more07:04
intelikeydsmith yeah that's why i mentioned the "what kind of safe" thing07:04
dsmithheh07:05
Linux_GaloreAlonea: if they are under .gnome or .kde ignore them07:05
AloneaLinux_Galore: I can have it open directory, and thats it, but doing open directory on over 3000 objects isn't practical07:05
Linux_GaloreAlonea: they are intentional duplicated07:05
miguelhi, i am from chile07:05
Linux_Galoreduplicates*07:05
migueli need help07:05
Linux_GaloreAlonea: then add .kde and .gnome to the filter to be ignored07:05
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intelikeywell welcome to cyber space miguel07:05
yhsoft12* intelikey *07:06
yhsoft12um..07:06
yhsoft12linux-headers-2.6.20-15 right?07:06
killermach_ok.. I installed kubuntu-beryl how do I "enable" it?07:06
intelikeylooks good to me.     uname -a    will tell you what you are running.07:06
intelikey!beryl | killermach_07:07
ubotukillermach_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:07
AloneaLinux_Galore: ok. got it. lets try again!07:07
Druntarwow the install is taking it's sweet time07:07
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yhsoft12linux ubuntu 2.6.20-15-server #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:41:34 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux07:07
intelikeyDruntar i'm serious my p1 box installed in less time.07:07
killermach_yes yes.. I was told that earlier.. then why is there a package for it? and why in gnome you click System->Preferences->Desktop Effects?07:08
AloneaLinux_Galore: ok this is weird. It wasn't showing where the files were before on the duplicated files list, but now it is...07:08
intelikeyyhsoft12 then yes it is  2.6.20-1507:08
yhsoft12okay07:08
kane_anyone know if its possible to access a MSSQL db with a linux clinet?07:08
intelikeykane_ should be.  but that's not in my spheer of knowledge07:09
yhsoft12* intelikey * i now well follow you ?07:09
Linux_GaloreAlonea: yeah, you must have the libmindreader.so.1  plugin installed07:09
axidentanyone willing to help me sort out a dual boot issue? If so please message me.07:09
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yhsoft12um...07:10
soulrider_axident: whats the issue ?07:11
intelikeyaxident just concisely describe the issue and the facts surrounding it.07:11
Linux_Galorekane_: always check on www.freshmeat.net07:11
AloneaLinux_Galore: *shrugs* ok, another to add to list is  ie4linux...daaaayam there are duplicates alllll over the place on that thing07:11
kane_hrm, thanks i'll look around there.07:11
soulrider_who the hell wants IE? and whot he hell wants it on linux!07:11
BellaireLinuxN3rthere's ie for linux?07:11
Linux_GaloreAlonea: yeah, usuall MS bloat07:12
soulrider_emulates most likely07:12
soulrider_ok, im going to bed07:12
soulrider_bye bye!07:12
Linux_GaloreBellaireLinuxN3r: its an applications that installs IE in Linux07:12
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BellaireLinuxN3roh07:12
hitmanWillyugh...07:12
axident 1 harddrive and it's partitioned...07:12
axident  1 partition had XP and the other was a storage.... then vista came out, I installed vista on my storage partition... now i only use vista and decided i would install ubuntu on my XP partition... read some things and configured grub the way i was told, but now I get NTLDR is missing when trying to boot to Vista... I know that Grub goofed the vista bootloader but dunno how to fix it without wiping out grub07:12
Aloneasoulrider_: I had it for a webpage for my class that wasn't working with firefox....though it works now07:12
Aloneaaxident: ok, I did the EXACT same thing too07:13
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Linux_GaloreAlonea: most webdevs who work from Linux install IE just in case07:13
yhsoft12* intelikey * Thanks for your help.07:13
Snowmanhiya folks, anyone have any experience with the knetworkmanager under feisty?07:13
axidenthere's the problem though... i don't have a floppy drive to make a boot disk to boot back into ubuntu after doing a startup repair on Vista using the Vista CD07:13
intelikeyyhsoft12 welcome.07:13
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Aloneaaxident: and it did not goof the vista boot. What is happening is Vista is looking for XP and not finding it.07:14
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Druntarok it's been sitting on 64% forever07:14
Snowmanhaving a bit of a problem getting it to list and connect to wireless LAN's, although the manual config worked.  The manual config however didn't actually do anything other than connect to my router and now I have no list of LAN's...07:14
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Linux_Galoreaxident: you use the Vista cd and recover the mbr07:14
axidentah... that would make sense...07:14
Aloneaaxident: and I tried doing the repair function for vista on the vista dvd, and it did n07:14
BellaireLinuxN3raxident: your probably need to restore NTLDR then overwrite it with grub07:14
Aloneaaxident: did not work for me. you can try though.07:14
intelikeyaxident the install cd or live cd for ubuntu, either will let you reinstall grub07:15
st1ckly78hello i need some help please07:15
axidentHmm... ok any suggestions on restoring the NTLDR?07:15
BellaireLinuxN3rst1ckly78: hiya! just ask and someone here's bound to know what's wrong07:16
intelikeyaxident have you visited the wiki on that issue ?07:16
intelikey!grub | axident07:16
ubotuaxident: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:16
Snowmanno wireless users in the house?07:16
st1ckly78i am trying to get my .avi files to play in vlc but all i get is sound what else do i need07:16
intelikey!wifi | Snowman07:16
ubotuSnowman: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:16
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Snowmanintelikey: yeah, read that.07:16
Snowmanit says I should see a list of wireless lans.  I don't.  hence my question :)07:17
intelikeybest i can do ya.07:17
Snowmanah :\07:17
BellaireLinuxN3rst1ckly78: do you know the codec for your .avi file? It might be one that VLC doesn't have07:17
SnowmanI mean, it _IS_ connected, but I'd like to be able to connect to others without having to manually config each time.07:17
st1ckly78no07:17
axidentthanks intelikey07:17
intelikeySnowman if you can translate kde to gnome  gnome to kde commands you can ask in  #ubuntu07:18
intelikeyaxident not at all07:18
st1ckly78all i know is i have installed the GStreamer ffmpeg video plugin but that got me the sound only07:18
Aloneaaxident: short of rewriting it yourself, I dont know, try googling restoring the ntldr.07:19
intelikeyvlc-plugin-ggi - GGI video output plugin for VLC07:19
intelikeyvlc-plugin-glide - Glide video output plugin for VLC07:19
intelikeyvlc-plugin-sdl - SDL video and audio output plugin for VLC07:19
st1ckly78cool07:19
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axidenthmm... i think I have some ideas to play with now... thanks for the info!07:20
Aloneaaxident: no problem. we try07:20
Aloneaaxident: worst case you end up reinstalling windows and then fixing grub. I ended up doing that. good luck!07:21
axidentI am sure I will be back... hehe...07:21
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intelikeyaxident from what i hear (hear say only cause i don't do windows) windows may give lots of problems if not on the first primary drive&partition   you may have to reinstall it there and install your linux where ever is left.07:22
intelikeyi guess i'm too late on that07:22
BellaireLinuxN3rintelikey: you're probably right07:22
intelikeyi lag07:22
BellaireLinuxN3ri'm lucky - I have two drives, so I just installed linux on the other drive07:22
BellaireLinuxN3rwindows is a spoiled brat :)07:23
intelikeyi have 8 drives in this box...07:23
intelikeylooks like the noon crowd has died down...07:25
BellaireLinuxN3rlol07:25
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icecruncherlol, I'll make up for it07:26
intelikeygo ahead, i'm not goin' to answer you anyway07:26
intelikey:)07:26
icecrunchercan anyone tell me how to remotely limit the speed of another computer on the same network? :)07:26
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Aloneais there a command you can do the delete instead of sending to trash?07:27
intelikeytraffic shaping  ?07:27
BellaireLinuxN3rthere's probably something in the router that you can change...maybe...:)07:27
icecruncheryeah, the other comp uses way to much bandwidth07:27
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intelikeyAlonea yes you can enable delete in the menu on konqueror  or use the hot keys   or use a konsole and rm it07:28
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Aloneaintelikey: ok, what is the hotkey for it?07:28
kaican some one help, I was banned from this channel for like months and I didn't know know07:28
intelikeyicecruncher well not because of the pun eariler but i can't answer that.....    idk.07:28
kaihow can I reserve my nick07:28
icecruncherintelikey: k  lol07:29
intelikeyAlonea shift del   i think  but it is adjustable07:29
Aloneaintelikey: thats fine. it works07:29
intelikey!register | kai07:29
ubotukai: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration07:29
kaithank you07:30
intelikeynot at all07:30
Aloneaintelikey: what can I use to partition again?07:30
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Aloneaintelikey: like, either in the cmd prompt, or a gui.07:31
kaiI think the first time there was something worng with my install how can i get my weather bug and my 'geyes' back07:31
intelikeygparted  qtparted   cfdiak   parted  fdisk07:31
intelikeytake your pick07:31
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Aloneaintelikey: is there a way I can split a drive without deleting off the contents?07:32
icecruncherkai, add them as apps in the task bar07:32
intelikeygeyes ?    isn't that gnomish07:32
icecruncherintelikey: probably07:32
kaiThere not there07:32
intelikeyAlonea if the free space is consolidated at one end, yes07:33
kaiThats why I think the first time I upgraded something went wrong07:33
Aloneaintelikey: ok. how would I do this? does cfdisk do it, or should I use another?07:33
kaiI had all that stuff and I had this HUGE memory leak issue when I ran netbeans for extended periods07:33
intelikeyxeyes - X client - xeyes07:33
Aloneakai: I dunno, but I have missing applets as well when I upgraded. Like the moon thing...07:33
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intelikeytuxeyes - a fancy version of xeyes07:34
ForgeAushey intelikey :)07:34
kaiAlonea: Its weird I never get the same install when I have installed kubuntu07:34
intelikeyAlonea ummmm i think i'd use gparted for that07:34
intelikeyForgeAus07:34
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Druntarok it's still at 64%07:35
Aloneaintelikey: ok, will try that07:35
Druntarshould this be taking so long?07:35
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hitmanWillyDruntar, what are you doing?07:35
kaiThis install is good07:36
Aloneaintelikey: I have a large external hdd and I have some backup info that I want to keep, but then I want the rest of the 100 or so gigs to be in a separate partition07:36
intelikeyDruntar go walk the dog,  or talk to a hooker or something for a while   and see if it finishes....07:36
kaiI had huge probs Idunno what happnedw/ the other one07:36
intelikeyhitmanWilly he's installing07:36
hitmanWillyahhh, ok...07:36
BellaireLinuxN3rdid it hang on hardware detection?07:37
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intelikeyBellaireLinuxN3r after writing files... 64%07:37
mehmethi07:37
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mehmeti wan to install all packges on Kubuntu 7.04 dvd07:38
mehmethow to this?07:38
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kaiI luv u linux07:38
kai:)07:38
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mehmeti was download some packages before this installation07:39
mehmeti was format my pc and installed new kubuntu from dvd07:39
mehmetnow i want to install my packages07:39
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mehmetbut there are 590 packages07:40
intelikeymehmet i don't think you can.   some will conflict with others and you will have to choose one or the other....   but    for Q in [a-z]  ;do apt-get install $Q* ;done      should try to do it.07:40
mehmetwhat the install command?07:40
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intelikeyoh wait.  local.07:40
mehmetintelikey:  i made but it is not ok :(07:40
danny500Hey, if I update my computer to the nex Ubuntu from 6.10 will it totally erase everything that is on the drive or just update the kernal to 7.04?07:41
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icecruncherdanny500, it'll  update all old packages07:41
intelikeynot the best idea to try to automate dpkg -i *    but you can try it.07:41
Aloneadanny500: shouldn't erase anything on the drive if you do the upgrade command. I didn't loose anything07:41
icecruncherdanny500, no erase :)07:41
intelikeyin the dir of the packages07:42
intelikeymehmet ^07:42
danny500ok, then I'm going to 7.04 now starting now :) tired of waiting for the disks to come in07:42
danny500lol07:42
danny500thanks guy's brb switching to 7.04 O_O07:42
intelikeydanny500 it will over write most of the "system & application " files  but no erase07:43
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icecruncherintelikey, he's offline07:43
mehmetintelikey:  ok it is running :)07:43
BellaireLinuxN3rlol07:43
intelikeyicecruncher yes his signoff and my post are almost at the same time on my screen.07:44
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icecruncherintelikey, ahh, not here07:44
icecruncherlol07:44
intelikeyyes i lag07:44
icecruncherwho doesn't07:45
icecruncherlol07:45
legoI am new to kubuntu.  How do I explore files, access my CD drive to copy files to the hard drive?07:45
ForgeAusexploring files is done by a program called konqueror07:45
intelikeykonqueror07:45
legoI have been against Linux for a long time, but I am starting to lean towds it now that I can actually get it working.07:45
ForgeAuscopying is also done there07:45
intelikeycould use mozilla07:46
BellaireLinuxN3ryou need to mount your cd first07:46
Alonealego: Konqueror is the file explorer. you can access it through the little computer icon next to the K Menu (at least thats how mine is set up)07:46
ForgeAus(note you will need permissions to copy anywhere other than to somewhere in /home/<user>/ directory07:46
intelikeyBellaireLinuxN3r or use the kio slave07:46
legoI see CDROM0 CDROM1 FLOPPY07:46
ForgeAusAlonea, its a blue ball icon, not a computer one07:46
icecruncherlego, konweror is also a internet browser, just in case you need it :)07:46
ForgeAus(the computer icon is either a terminal one or the system menu)07:46
AloneaForgeAus: oh, its a computer icon for me.07:46
AloneaForgeAus: has the list of home, storage media, etc.07:47
BellaireLinuxN3ryeah, that's how it is on mine too alonea07:47
ForgeAus(it also has a gear around it btw)07:47
ForgeAusthe list one is a system menu... thats not konqueror07:47
legoHow do I mount the drives?  Clicking on then does nothing.07:47
ForgeAusbut you can use it to start konqueror07:47
AloneaForgeAus: ok, I didnt say the computer icon was the K Menu icon with the gear and is blue07:47
BellaireLinuxN3rright click, there should be a option of "mount"07:48
ForgeAus(ie the way you view places, storage media, etc starts konqueror to do so)07:48
intelikeylego  in kde   learn to right click everything.07:48
BellaireLinuxN3rmake sure you have a CD in it or it'll complain at you :)07:48
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BellaireLinuxN3rintelikey: pretty much that's how KDE works lol07:48
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Snowmanok, this is getting annoying.  Still having no luck whatsoever with this new version of the network manager.07:48
Snowmananyone have any experience with wireless and knetworkmanager, I could use a hand. :\07:49
ForgeAusdoes the computer icon your talking about have a kubuntu logo on the screen?07:49
AloneaForgeAus: I was saying how to access files and where the system menu icon is located, which for me, is right next to the K Menu icon.07:49
legoNothing saying mount.07:49
BellaireLinuxN3rlego: also if you don't like single click to open things, you might want to change that, since it's on by default07:49
legoSays its a folder.07:49
legoI like single click.07:49
ForgeAus(Alonea I think thats pretty close to the default setting)07:49
intelikey"the pointy clicky thingy"07:50
BellaireLinuxN3rlego: okay, that's really weird07:50
ForgeAushehe intelikey, right click is much like microsoft windows anywya07:50
AloneaForgeAus: ...I am just saying you misunderstood what I said...07:50
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legoI clicked on konkerer, then storage media07:50
legoexcuse my bad spelling.07:51
intelikeyForgeAus yeah but that don't mean i'd want it to not do anything on right click.07:51
intelikeylike that other desktop does07:51
ForgeAusActually Alonea, I think I was being kinda technical, it just sounded wrong when you said computer icon because I know what konqi's icon looks like07:51
Alonealego: yeha, storage media is all your cd, usb, and other hard drives. If you click on Home, that is sorta equivalent to My Documents07:51
icecruncheranybody using pidgin 2 yet? :] 07:51
Snowmanintelikey: could the manual configuration of the interface be what's causing it to not have a list of wireless lans?07:51
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intelikeySnowman i really have no idea.   when it comes to wireless and networking in general, i'm dumb as a box of rocks07:52
Snowmanah, sorry to bug you :)07:53
Aloneaicecruncher: i think I am. you having any problems connecting?07:53
Snowmankinda wishing I'd stuck with dapper.07:53
intelikeybut if you can tell me what you want it to do i can write a bash script for it....  :)    hehheh07:53
icecruncherAlonea: nope, just starting to compile from source07:53
BellaireLinuxN3rlego: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_mount.2Funmount_CD.2FDVD-ROM_manually.2C_and_show_all_hidden_and_associated_files.2Ffolders07:53
legoI am brain dead.  I just realized I haven't inserted a CD yet.07:54
matias_how can i use the threedimensional desktop?07:54
Aloneaicecruncher: oh, ok. well, it should of come in the upgrade to Fiesty if you did it that way. I haven't compiled it from source.07:54
ForgeAus!pigdin07:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pigdin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:54
ForgeAusmatias, theres three packages for 3d desktops07:54
BellaireLinuxN3rlego: That may be a problem... :)07:54
ForgeAusBeryl, the most popular, compiz, and 3d Desktop07:54
matias_ok07:54
legobrb07:55
intelikeySnowman if you can't get anything out of these clowns   try #ubuntu    ##linux   ##linuxhelp   #wifi or #wireless  if there is such.07:55
legoor be back later.07:55
ForgeAus(note beryl was originally a fork of compiz and they're supposedly in the process of re-merging)07:55
Druntarinstalkins sorry locking up alont07:55
intelikeylego   all that without a disk...    some one hand him to me....07:55
BellaireLinuxN3rLOL07:56
mehmetintelikey:  Thank musch soo muchhh :)07:57
legoHer is my plan.  Maybe y'all can tell me how bad it is.07:57
Aloneai wonder if it was wise to make ark create a tar.bz of a 50gig folder...07:57
Snowmanintelikey: thanks for the suggestions.  currently lurking in #kde and #wireless as well.07:57
legoI made a Windows 98 vmware image and saved to CD.  I want to run vmplayer and run the 98  image.07:58
legoSo I can run my old Windows stuff.07:58
intelikeyif anyone hands you to me,  i'm gonna spank you.07:58
Snowmanwhy not use wine?07:58
hitmanWillySnowman, wine is very...glitchy...07:59
intelikey:)07:59
BellaireLinuxN3rb/c snowman, wine can't run some windows programs like PS07:59
legoI don't know much on wine, but I know my stuff works great in vmware.07:59
Snowmanalonea: depends on if your definition of "wise" is "horrendously time consuming"07:59
ForgeAusglitchy? hmmm one way to put it07:59
SnowmanBellaireLinuxN3r: true.07:59
ForgeAusyeah vmware works well mostly07:59
Aloneaindeed...I can't get really anything to run i wine except for solitaire, hearts, freecell, spider solitaire, etc.07:59
hitmanWillybest i could come up with08:00
SnowmanhitmanWilly: I've had great luck with it for the apps I've tried.  mostly security panel programming apps, though.08:00
ForgeAusI can08:00
BellaireLinuxN3rI think wine's for small windows apps08:00
ForgeAusI got ie6 running on it and mirc08:00
AloneaForgeAus: how did you get ie6 to run?! I was trying a couple days ago with NO success.08:00
hitmanWillyit works about 50/50 for me08:00
intelikeyBellaireLinuxN3r yeah.   i installed a game in it one time....   to slow on this hardware.08:00
icecruncher!worksforme08:01
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.08:01
Snowmanwine here works for: dls 2002 (dsc alarm panel prog. app), googletalk, heroes of might and magic II (don't laugh, it's a time killer for at work), and a couple of little homebrew mfc apps.08:01
intelikeyi guess you need more than 350 horse power to do that.08:01
AloneaForgeAus: my problem is it does that thing when it asks you to restart the application and try installing again.08:02
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Aloneaumm, how long should it take to compress a 50 gig folder in a .tar.bz?08:03
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BellaireLinuxN3ralonea: go take a nap, watch some TV, excersise, maybe go shopping08:04
Snowmanshopping in another country, and by exercise we mean a 2 week trek through the andes.08:05
ForgeAusAlonea, you can simulate a reboot if thats what you mean08:05
AloneaBellaireLinuxN3r: shopping....I wish. lack money and well, methinks all the stores are closed at 1:05 in the morning.08:05
AloneaForgeAus: umm, well, what I mean is, I can't get IE6 to install....08:06
ForgeAustheres some site, ies4linux I think its called08:06
ForgeAusalso cxoffice (nonfree) has cozy gui to install it...08:06
ForgeAus(cxoffice is just a wine with extras)08:06
BellaireLinuxN3ralonea: lol, we're in the same timezone even lol08:07
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ubuntuhi everyone08:07
ubuntui need help08:07
AloneaForgeAus: I already have that. I need 1e6 installed in wine so I can try installing another program that looks for it. I tried to do the regedit thing where you can try fooling the apps, but no one would tell me which dlls to copy over to where, and the page didn't say which, just that I needed to.08:07
icecruncherhi08:07
intelikey /dev/hda is entire device, not just one partition!08:07
intelikeyProceed anyway? (y,n) y08:07
BellaireLinuxN3rubuntu: doesn't everybody? lol08:07
ubuntuafter i installed linux i firmatted my c drive and installed windows08:07
icecruncherand08:07
AloneaBellaireLinuxN3r: dear ole central. God it is hot today...stupid west texas.08:07
ubuntunow i cant boot linux08:08
BellaireLinuxN3ralonea: oh wow, i'm in Houston lolz08:08
hitmanWilly!grub | ubuntu08:08
ubotuubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:08
ubuntuis there a way 2 just install the boot loader08:08
AloneaBellaireLinuxN3r: ooo...bad humidity I hear.08:08
BellaireLinuxN3rubuntu: that's actually uh, normal08:08
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ForgeAusies6linux should install ie6 for you08:08
BellaireLinuxN3rubuntu: you need to reinstall grub over NTLDR08:08
intelikeyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows   <<< ubuntu08:08
ForgeAusyou need dcop, msfonts, and some other bits before ie6 will work08:08
icecruncher!dualboot08:08
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)08:08
ubuntuhow do i do that08:09
intelikeyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows   <<< ubuntu08:09
ForgeAusbit IT DOES function... at least in my experience08:09
BellaireLinuxN3ralonea: yeah, nasty weather here in Houston08:09
AloneaForgeAus: it will install it in the wine virtual computer thing?08:09
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ubuntuthis is my 1st time using linux08:09
ForgeAusit even validates with microsoft as a genuine windows!!!!08:09
icecruncherubuntu, follow the post by intelikey08:09
AloneaForgeAus: I could care less really if it works. I just want to try to install MusicMatch...08:09
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ForgeAusalonea yes08:09
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ubuntuok08:09
ubuntuthanx08:10
ForgeAus(at least the ie6 part does, I think the script leading up to it doesn't)08:10
ForgeAushehe the jukebox! nice08:10
ForgeAusI have no idea if that works in wine or not08:10
AloneaForgeAus: I have On Demand service.08:10
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AloneaForgeAus: where is this ies6linux. google only came up with russian sites.08:11
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ForgeAus4 not 6...08:11
AloneaForgeAus: ok, well, I already have ies4linux, and that doesn't do anything for wine. it is separate. so what is this thing that validates windows and everything?08:12
intelikey4!608:12
ForgeAusyes intelikey for C fans anyway08:12
ForgeAusdid you run ies4linux? did that not work?08:12
ForgeAusand yes you run it from a console prompt...08:13
ForgeAus(rather than from within wine, but it installs ie6 itself from within wine)08:13
intelikeyoh was i speaking C ????   thought it was bash ...08:13
ForgeAuspossibly...08:13
AloneaForgeAus: yes it works, but it is separate from wine. like, completely.08:13
ForgeAusI don't know much about bash scripting08:13
intelikey:)08:14
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ForgeAusum no its not, it uses wine to make ie608:14
intelikeyor that would have to be in a    case blah in ; :) ;; esac   wouldn't it...08:14
ForgeAus(you mean its like a separate instance of wine's windows that it uses?)08:14
Aloneaintelikey: ok. in GParted, how would I partition it without loosing information?08:14
intelikeyAlonea you resize the existing.   and make new from the free space08:15
AloneaForgeAus: well, in the ie4linux folder there is some made up windows folders. and in the wine folder there is also the windows folders. but they are completely separate08:15
ForgeAushmmm might have changed since I did it last08:15
ForgeAusweird08:16
ForgeAusI was able to integrate it with my wine... but anyway if it did function why can't you install musicmatch from within that "bottle" (as cxoffice calls them)08:16
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AloneaForgeAus: I am lost. how would I install an app in ie4linux?08:17
intelikeybottles and jars       what does osx use  cans and buckets08:17
ForgeAushehe08:18
intelikeylinux uses lots of chains links and loops08:18
ForgeAusjars are java archives aren't they?08:18
intelikeyyea08:18
ForgeAusthey're also used by windows (and I assume osx)08:18
Aloneaintelikey: speaking of osx, thats what is going on the partition. ^__^08:18
intelikeyoh i'm sorry08:18
intelikey:)08:18
ForgeAusheeh nice08:18
ForgeAusosx!08:19
AloneaForgeAus: I do waaaay entirely too many things to be able to be satisfied with one OS.08:19
ForgeAusyeah windows uses links... not so many chains that I'm aware of ... loops are more  aprogramming thing afaik08:19
ForgeAusAlonea, ditto08:19
legoDoes Linux have a way to run ISO files as CD's?08:20
ForgeAusdo you have a powerpc or just regular x86?08:20
ForgeAuslego you can mount iso's08:20
intelikeymount file.img -o loop dir/08:20
ForgeAusif thats what you mean08:20
legoThank you.08:20
intelikeyfor this in that do loop done08:20
AloneaForgeAus: this computer was originally a pc, plan on making it have linux, windows, and osx08:20
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Snowmanlego: iirc you can use mount to view them as if they were burned and in a drive.08:21
ForgeAusyeah that kinda thing08:21
ForgeAusvery loopy08:21
ForgeAusyou do know osx for x86 is illegal08:21
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ForgeAus(macintosh actually has a clause that MacOS and/or OSX may only legally run on macintosh hardware)08:21
ForgeAus(that being said I find rhapsody interesting theres an ix86 version of that)08:22
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rohancan someone please tell me why this error is occuring ? http://rafb.net/p/I09FKq79.html08:22
ForgeAusI doubt it has such a clause, but I'm not certain how to obtain rhapsody legally and it has little software support... (its basically an Openstep++)08:23
kalorin`rohan: it looks very much like a corrupt .deb file08:23
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rohankalorin`: oh .. i'll try re-downloading it08:23
ForgeAusHaiku is also interesting its basically an (open-sourced?) BeOS clone08:24
kalorin`nighty08:24
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ForgeAuswhilst in a similar vein AROS is an AmigaOS clone for x86 (being an acronym for Amiga Research Operating System)08:24
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ThomasZThe  alsaconf application seems to have been removed from kubuntu;  what replaces it?08:24
ForgeAusbut I don't think it runs amiga binaries08:24
ForgeAus(the API is compatible, however)08:25
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snake_hi08:25
icecruncherhi08:25
DaSkreechlo08:26
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DaSkreechDamn08:26
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DaSkreechBest two out of three?08:26
ubuntuhey08:26
DaSkreechhay08:26
ubuntui have tried the link u gave me and i followed the steps but it didnt work08:26
snake_does anyone know something like imesh or bearshare for ubuntu ?08:26
snake_to download music08:26
icecruncher!grub | ubuntu08:27
BellaireLinuxN3rsnake_: frostwire?08:27
ubotuubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:27
DaSkreechsnake_: try magnatune. It comes with Amarok08:27
ubuntui use kubuntu is it the same08:27
BellaireLinuxN3ryes08:27
snake_i find it in amarok home page08:27
DaSkreechsnake_: As a warning we don't tolerate Piracy here08:27
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DaSkreechsnake_: open amarok. It's the tab on the left at the bottom08:28
BellaireLinuxN3rubuntu: use the same commands that the page gives you08:28
intelikeyhmmm i'm pretty sure something short cycled on this initrd.img its only 29307 bytes08:28
snake_ah ok08:28
ForgeAusp2p? ... mldonkey is kewl08:28
snake_thank you all08:28
ThomasZAlsa found the wrong audio card (forgot to load the module).  How do I tell alsa to search again?08:29
firecrotchCan someone do me a quick favor?08:29
ForgeAusits sorta like shareaza for linux! (although I think there may even be an mldonkey for windows?)08:29
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|lostbyte|lol08:29
DaSkreechThere you go08:29
intelikeyubuntu yes kubuntu is ubuntu until you get to the wm/de08:29
firecrotchDaSkreech: Thanks !08:29
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DaSkreechNo problem hopefully someone would do the same for me before uploading to youtube08:30
AloneaForgeAus: Ok, I tried installing ies4linux again and it still appears to be separate.08:30
ForgeAusalonea can you run wine and ie from within wine?08:30
firecrotchBut seriously... Can someone run "dig -x 209.190.24.74" for me and tell me what the answer section says?08:30
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ubuntuthanx i'll try 2 reboot now08:31
dhornIs anyone familiar with ctrl-z in konsole?08:31
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Aloneaumm. command? wine ???08:31
ForgeAus(that is to say can you run the wine installation that has ie installed into it separately?)08:31
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ForgeAusum... genreally wine <insert appname here> (try notepad.exe or something)08:31
AloneaForgeAus: oh, are you asking if wine works? yeah. it does.08:32
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intelikeyForgeAus & Alonea full path.    wine ~/ie4linux/blah.exe08:32
ForgeAusnot necessarily if wine works, if wine that can run ie6 works08:32
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ForgeAusif so you can attempt to install musicmatch from there...08:33
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freeflyercan anyone tell me a good server program to get for kubuntu08:33
ForgeAus(just run the setup program like any other under wine)08:33
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AloneaForgeAus: umm, you mean ie4linux? if the IE6 in that works?08:33
firecrotchfreeflyer: Apache?08:34
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ForgeAusAlonea NO...08:34
ForgeAusyou may have multiple wine erm "trees" I'll call them08:34
rohankalorin`: this the same .deb i used to install before. i don't really think it can get corrupted since08:34
rohankalorin`: however, i tried reinstalling it just because mplayer cann08:34
icecruncherfirecrotch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19221/08:34
AloneaForgeAus: because currently there IS no actualy regular ie6 in wine...08:34
ForgeAusie two different windows directories installed (but only one wine program)08:34
firecrotchicecruncher: Thank you very much08:34
icecruncherfirecrotch, why can't you run it?08:35
rohanhowever, i tried reinstalling it just because mplayer cannot play the video in a .rm file - it can play the audio. is it a known problem with the w32codecs package of medibuntu ?08:35
AloneaForgeAus: I even tried copying over the windows files for ie in ie4 to wine and that did not work...probably needs reg keys or something like that. or i am missing files08:35
firecrotchicecruncher:  I can, but I wanted to make sure that I wasn't getting a cached answer from something08:35
icecruncherahh08:35
ForgeAusalonea, you basically only need the stuff ies4linux installs in the script08:36
ForgeAuslike cabextract, msfonts, dcom...08:36
ForgeAusand ie6 should work08:36
intelikeyok guys.  you're glad i was here but you really wont miss me.    later08:37
ForgeAushttp://patrick.spacesurfer.com/ie_wine_install.html ??08:37
AloneaForgeAus: ok, starting over on ie4linux. Show I change to default directory to .wine?08:38
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ForgeAusbasically it says what I said08:39
ForgeAusget dcom98 and ie6setup08:39
ForgeAusand install that in wine and you don't even need ies4linux08:39
Topclassanyone know anything about getting a logitech mx1000 mouse working with the forward and back buttons? tried some advice from sites but always kill x08:40
ForgeAus(note you require cabextract and the microsoft fonts which are available as linux pacakges)... obviously you already have wine08:40
wiegraf77hellow08:40
AloneaForgeAus: I already have those files...08:40
wiegraf77good afternoo08:40
icecruncherhow can I fing out what version of gtk I'm running?08:40
ForgeAushehe helloW???08:40
wiegraf77ia08:41
ForgeAusok they're installed? then install ie6setup from within wine08:41
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ForgeAus(erm sorry dcom98 first then ie6setup)08:41
wiegraf77what is going now in here08:41
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AloneaForgeAus: and I tried to install ie6 before, but it would not install. thats why i asked you. you said you had it installed. wanted to know how. installed dcom98 aaaages ago too. also. in those instructions. that config files does not exist foe me...08:42
ForgeAusAlonea, musta done something wrong then08:42
ForgeAusI've never had it not install (I've had it not run, due to gecko issues)08:43
frojndhello there, I've installed XP after kubuntu and now I don't see kubuntu at the start of boot to choose.. how can I get my kubuntu back :)08:43
firecrotch!mbr | frojnd08:43
ubotufrojnd: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:43
ForgeAus!grub08:43
AloneaForgeAus: it starts to install, but the installer tells me something like I need to restart the installer...08:43
firecrotchForgeAus: I win :P08:44
wiegraf77forgot ie6.... now.. only think in firefox or konqueror...08:44
ForgeAuslol fc :)08:44
icecruncherwiegraf77  :)08:44
ForgeAushmm but why install ff in wine?08:44
Aloneawiegraf77: I dont need ie6 to use..I need it so another program in wine can install08:45
ForgeAuswie he wants to install musicmatch jukebox that requires ie608:45
icecruncherAlonea, have u tried another program, or do u really ned this one?08:45
ForgeAusalonea, I don't think I can help you... all you shoul dneed to do if it asks to reset is simulate a reset08:45
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ForgeAusbut your saying restart the installer?... whats going to stop it from doing the same thing again?08:46
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Aloneaicecruncher: I need the program for a service it has that my dad pays for.08:46
icecruncherlol08:46
AloneaForgeAus: I need to get the exact error and tell you...i dont remember the exact08:46
ForgeAusperhaps theres an issue with native dll's vs wine dll's?08:46
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ForgeAusthe ones you need are listed : http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/ie_wine_install.html08:46
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AloneaForgeAus: should I install IE6 in win98 more of XP?08:48
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ForgeAusAlonea, either, probably more apt to use 98...08:48
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AloneaForgeAus: ok, in 98 I get a different error. It says it cant connect to internet to download files08:49
ForgeAushmm can konqueror connect?08:50
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AloneaForgeAus: umm...it should. lemme check. I mean. I am talking to you right now08:50
ForgeAusAlonea, I agree... also I don't think I can help you with the cannot connect issue, um perhaps winehq.com will help?08:51
ForgeAusif not #winehq08:51
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AloneaForgeAus: I asked them and they said wine isn't even supposed to install IE6 and they dont support it08:52
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ForgeAuslol08:52
ForgeAushow user-friendly uh?08:52
TheDebuggerAnyone got the problem with amarok where the track name at the bottom left is displayed as html?08:52
ForgeAusvery un-windows-like of them08:52
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wiegraf77 forgot ie6.... now.. only think in firefox or konqueror... [2] 08:53
AloneaForgeAus: and this is after pointing out that on their APDB it says it will08:53
Topclassanyone know how to force firsefox to open fullscreen? for some reason its been opeing only on the left half of the screen?08:53
ForgeAuswie, we read you the first time08:53
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ForgeAustopclass? that sounds strange...08:53
Aloneawiegraf77: indeed, we did read you.08:53
ForgeAusmaybe try different screenres in xrandr?08:53
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Topclassindeed. its doing my head in08:53
iarwainhiya, anyone know if it is possible to import swf into a presentation (openoffice - impress)08:53
ForgeAus(read man xrandr if you don't know how to use it)08:54
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TheDebuggerAnyone can help for my amarok problem?08:54
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Topclasscheers will look into that later08:54
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cntbconfused08:56
AloneaForgeAus: bah..i give. gonna attempt to install Mac OSX instead. I must create myself another headache.08:56
cntbkonqueror find files folders cannot find existing files08:57
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icecrunchercntb say again08:59
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jlillyAlonea: You're trying to install OS X in Kubuntu?09:00
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DaSkreechHI Alonea09:03
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GeggeleHallo kann mir mal jemand sagen weil mein suse abgestrtzt ist wie ich auf meine platten wieder zugreifen kann will da was sichern und brennen und dann platt machen09:06
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jlillyTheDebugger: Amarok problem? Oh, and don't ask to ask.09:06
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iarwainhiya, anyone know if it is possible to import swf into a presentation (openoffice - impress)09:07
tarelerulzHow would I update to Ubuntu 7.04  with adept?09:07
DaSkreech!de09:07
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:07
DaSkreechGeggele: Suse?09:08
iarwaintarelerulz: change all instances of edgy to feisty in your sources.list09:08
DaSkreechjlilly: Didn't TheDebuggerasked about Amarok showing the artist - title as HTML09:08
frojndhow can I figure it out on which partition is installed linux root i mean, and how big is this partition - in MB? this is my fdisk and df - h output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19227/09:08
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jlillyDaSkreech: I don't believe so.. at least I didn't see it.09:09
DaSkreech[01:53]  <TheDebugger> Anyone got the problem with amarok where the track name at the bottom left is displayed as html?09:09
jlillyand that was danish, I believe.09:09
DaSkreechHa09:09
jlillyahhh.09:09
jlillyI saw [02:54]  <TheDebugger> Anyone can help for my amarok problem?09:09
jlillyhrm. on second look, I think it IS german.09:10
AloneaDaSkreech: allo dear.09:10
jlillyIts entirely too late :(09:10
jlilly[03:00]  <jlilly> Alonea: You're trying to install OS X in Kubuntu?09:10
Aloneajlilly: sorry. I was away for a minute. yes and no. Vmware.09:11
DaSkreechfirecrotch is out!09:11
tarelerulzWell, I had notthing ,but troble with the verions of kubuntu I have  and  ubuntu 7.04 is great09:11
Aloneajlilly: I have a nice how to.09:11
jlillyAlonea: link? I _NEED_ Textmate. (requires 10.4.3, I think)09:11
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TheDebugger7.04 is really great :D09:11
jlillyI bought a license then my mac broke and I didn't have the $ to repair so *shrug*, but I would like to try it.09:12
jlillyTheDebugger: Agreed!09:12
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Aloneajlilly: umm. not sure on link. I printed out the instructions. Lemme see if its in my history09:12
rohantarelerulz: yes, ubuntu is easier for new users, as compared to kubuntu09:12
jlillyAlonea: maybe printed at the bottom or top of the document?09:12
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Aloneajlilly: no, I put text in open office and reduced text size09:13
tarelerulzWell, the fact something don't seem to work for me. That is what  I don't like09:13
jlillybah!09:13
rohantarelerulz: what isn't working for you /09:13
tarelerulzI have beryle working and ntfs and so on09:13
GeggeleDaSkreech yes  i cant  mount my partition in suse09:13
tarelerulzI can't get fireforx working .09:13
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DaSkreechGeggele: do you get an error?09:13
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DaSkreechtarelerulz: Praise the lord and move on :)09:14
tarelerulzIti is more then that09:14
Aloneajlilly: I dunno what the link is. It was a wiki page maybe. starts off wiht Step 1 - Purchase/Download and install VMware09:14
tarelerulzAnd ark broke out of the blue09:14
Aloneajlilly: it takes a bit of work and it isn't guaranteed to work for all09:15
tarelerulzand plus I don't have a working cd drive so I can't upgrade my computer wiht cd09:15
jlillyfor those who are curious: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Vmware_how_to09:15
Aloneajlilly: ok. thats the page09:16
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tarelerulzI don't want to sound dumb ,but do they kubuntu verion of ubuntu 7.04?09:18
jlilly Alonea: mind if I pm you?09:18
Druntarok still no go09:18
jlillytarelerulz: yes. there is a kubuntu 7.0409:18
Aloneajlilly: go ahead09:18
Druntarthis thing's been installing for 2 hours and hasn't passed 64%09:18
rohanDruntar: kubuntu ?09:19
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Druntaryeah09:19
ItalyHi09:19
tarelerulzLike I said I don't have working cd rom drive so adept is my only way09:19
DruntarI started it over two hours ago09:19
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ItalyI'm looking for anyone that cn help me09:19
Druntarstarted from a live cd09:19
rohanDruntar: you can cancel it, and run it again in a console, and check to see if any error mesages are displayed ?09:19
Druntargo to coping files09:19
Druntarcopying files and froze at 64%09:20
rohantarelerulz: what do you want to do ? update your edgy install ?09:20
rohanDruntar: well, is the cd burnt correctly ? did you verify the md5sum ?09:20
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tarelerulzI woul.d like to upgrede to Kubuntu 7.0409:21
tarelerulzwith adept09:21
jikantertarelerulz: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:21
rohantarelerulz: yes09:21
rohansudo aptitude dist-upgrade09:22
rohanuse aptitude, i've found it to be better at resolving dependency problems09:22
tarelerulzrohan thanks . That is going ot help me alot09:22
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rohantarelerulz: the instructions on the wiki did not work ?09:22
jikanterHey Admiral Chicago! Your up awfully late...09:22
rohantarelerulz: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php#upgrade09:23
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tarelerulzI am going to say this I DON'T HAVE A WORKING CD ROM DRIVE09:24
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rohantarelerulz: so ? the instructions are for online upgrade09:25
rohantarelerulz: those are the ones you'd rather follow09:25
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don_jr__I have created a win98 startup cd, when I boot the machine that's running kubuntu right now, it won't boot from the cd, is this something to do with kubuntu installed or is it the machine?09:26
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icecruncherdon_jr__: no09:26
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don_jr__icecruncher no what? it's not kubuntu? so it's a problem with the machine then?  thanks09:26
tarelerulzIt is not rether I would or not . I don't have a working cd rom drive at all.09:26
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tarelerulzit is the only way I can upgrade09:27
icecruncherdon_jr__: I'd say it's the cd if you cant boot09:27
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Druntarok getting irritated09:27
don_jr__icecruncher okay....gotta fingure out how to make the cd bootable then...my laptop here doesn't have a floppy drive, only CD  thanks09:27
Druntarrunning kubuntu 7.04 from live cd finally got the install past the first screen. Then it locked at 64% of copying files. Someone said something about running it from a command line?09:29
icecruncherDruntar: with09:29
icecrunchersrry09:29
don_jr__Druntar I had the same problem, had to download the alternate install cd09:29
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Druntar<sigh>09:29
Druntar3 more hours in winsuck hell09:30
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davis_is there an easy way to mount a samba share to my desktop?09:30
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Druntarany other suggestions folks before I go waste more of my time?09:30
icecruncherDruntar, no09:30
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Druntardon_jr_: the alternate cd did work for you right?09:31
don_jr__Druntar yes, multiple times it's worked great on 3 different machines I have here at the house.09:31
Druntarhmmm wonder what the difference is09:32
Druntarok well thanks guys09:32
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comodocan someone help me i need to add higher screen resolution09:34
Roadrunner343hello everyone. I'm trying to install Feisty from the live CD's but Im not quite sure how to do so. I can't seem to log in. Any help? And yes, I know, I am a newbie please dont yell at me.09:34
comodothe highest screen resolution available in system settings is 1024x76809:35
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Roadrunner343I boot to the CD and everything and hit F1 to Install/Run Kubuntu but that just takes me to the log in screen (Running from the cd) and I dont know how to log in so I can install the OS and set it up and everything09:35
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icecrunchercomodo: get the correct drivers foor yur graphics card09:36
comodoi have them09:36
icecruncheru shure?09:36
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Roadrunner343anyone know how to install from the live CD?09:36
comodopretty sure09:36
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comodohow can i see if its the correct driver09:36
davis_hey any tips on mounting a samba share to my desktop? like from a windows comp to kubuntu09:36
davis_I can see the samba shares but I want to make it a folder on my desktop09:37
icecrunchercomodo: just a sec09:37
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oxydonhey09:37
jussi01!fstab | davis_09:37
ubotudavis_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions09:37
Roadrunner343could some one help me with installing kubuntu from the Live CD?09:38
jussi01Roadrunner343: click the install button?09:38
oxydondoes anyone know how could i convert a ntfs partition 2 fat or could i just write on ntfs through linux09:38
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jussi01oxydon: are you wanting to preserve your data?09:38
davis_thanks09:38
oxydonjussi01: yes09:38
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jussi01best to write to ntfs then...09:39
oxydonok09:39
Druntarok want to cry09:39
jussi01!ntfs-3g | oxydon09:39
ubotuoxydon: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions09:39
oxydoneverytime i try it denies09:39
oxydonthanx man09:39
Druntartried to reboot into windows to download the alternate cd09:39
Roadrunner343Jussi01: THats not it. Its the live CD. I hit "Install/Run Kubuntu" and it opens up the login screen.From there I can't log in because I dont have any accounts set up or anything... Im not quite sure what to do09:39
icecrunchercomodo: under system settings you hit the monitor and display and there under hardware you shold be able to configure your graphics card as admin09:39
Roadrunner343it gave some error too but I cant rememebr what it was...I can do it again to find out if I must. I just dont know how to log in so I can install Kubuntu permanently.09:40
Druntarnow it says missing operating system09:40
jussi01Roadrunner343: is there a safemode or something in that first list?09:40
comodoyea how do i open system settings as root?09:40
jussi01Druntar: what did you do?09:41
Roadrunner343Jussi01: I believe so. Should I boot to that?09:41
oxydonjussi01: i use kubuntu09:41
icecruncherthere is a button at the bottom sayin administrator or something like that09:41
jussi01Roadrunner343: yes09:41
jussi01oxydon: its the same in both envirnments09:41
Roadrunner343Because I am trying to run the live cd so I can install it permanently. I used Kubuntu before (Edgy) but I just installed straight from the CD (It wasnt a live cd)09:41
Roadrunner343then what? Do I need to know anything to log in or anything like that?09:41
hivemindHello there gentlemen. I just got Feisty installed and I have only one task left. Configure whichever applications to start-up on login. Any advice?09:41
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DruntarI resized my vista install then tried to install kubuntu it froze at 64% of copying files. I was told I needed the alternate install cd. So I shut down so I could get back on my vista install to download and burn said cd.09:42
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legoHow unsafe is it to be downloading 6 files at the same time?09:42
jussi01Roadrunner343: do you have limited bandwidth?09:42
legoI am having a problem with kubuntu so I wanted to get Suse.09:42
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Roadrunner343jussi01: Yeah... At the moment I do. I had a friend download the CD for me.09:43
legoI was trying to run vmware player and I can't get it to use a cdrom drive.09:43
Druntarok how do I run the install from the live cd in a terminal so I can catch the error when it happens?09:44
icecruncherhivemind, could you explain a bit more pls09:44
legoAlso it gives errors on sound.09:44
jussi01oh... well if you can, Id get a copy of the alternate cd09:44
icecruncherDruntar: try in safe mode boot09:44
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Druntarthere is no boot except from live cd09:44
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Roadrunner343ok... ill try that. But in case I cant, how do I log into the live cd?09:44
Druntaror do you mean try running install from safe mode?09:44
jussi01Druntar: yeah, the safe boot from the cd09:44
legoAnyone use vmware player?09:44
Druntaroh ok09:44
hivemindicecruncher, Well. Lets say I want Xchat to start automatically when I login. How would I set that up?09:44
jussi01lego:  /join #vmware09:45
legoOkay.  Thank you.09:45
icecruncherhivemind, ahh make a symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart09:45
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hivemindicecruncher, Thank you!09:46
icecrunchernp09:46
jussi01hivemind: you know konversation is much nicer in kde than xchat....09:46
Roadrunner343alrighty, well thanks for all your help. I might be back shortly =D09:46
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carlos|t41but konversation doesn't support transparency :-[09:47
kasdayeWell.09:47
hivemindIt does seem nice.09:47
kasdayeI guess I'll use this instead : /09:47
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legoGood night all.09:49
jussi01night lego09:49
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icecrunchernight09:49
carlos|t41night09:49
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hivemindThere we go =D09:51
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icecruncherlol09:52
comodohey man thanks for the help worked perfect09:52
comodoman i used ubuntu before this and it was way more difficult to get the screen resolution working good09:52
icecrunchernp09:53
comodoand beryl is easy also09:53
Aloneaok, I am using vmware and it wants me to say whether me hard disk is ide or scsi. What would my External Hdd be?09:54
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comodowhat are you runing ice09:54
icecruncherAlonea: I'd try scsi, but not sure about it09:54
binks_*binks wishes he was in a warmer counry09:54
icecrunchercomodo: Pentium 2 33Mhz wth 192 mb ram09:54
Aloneaicecruncher: well, when I plug it into ubuntu it said sda.09:55
binks_beryl is still a little buggy in kubuntu09:55
icecrunchermake that 333Mhz09:55
comododamn09:55
comodonever updated?09:55
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Aloneaicecruncher: anyway to check for sure?09:55
oxydonjussi01: in the documentation it tells me to go to application system tools but i cant find such a path09:56
carlos|t41a09:56
carlos|t41Alonea: i would go for scsi09:56
binks_i justed berly up and lost the icons in my taskbar oooops09:56
binks_^started09:56
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Aloneacarlos|t41: ok. will change it to scsi then09:56
icecruncherAlonea: dunno sorry09:56
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oxydonjussi01: excuse me but its my 1st time using linux09:56
comodoyea i installed and started running beryl but my bar on top of windows that have minimize restore and close buttons is gone ?09:57
oxydonhey everyone09:57
binks_oxydon: hey09:58
oxydoni use kubuntu and i installed the ntfs 3g i dont know how  2 use it09:58
binks_!ntfs09:58
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:58
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oxydonuboto:  i can view it but i want 2 write on it09:59
comodosome guy told me the easyest way to use ntfs-3g was ntfs-3g-config or somthing suposed to be a gui for ntfs-3g09:59
oxydonuboto: i just  cant find the program i installed09:59
icecruncher!ntsf-3g | oxydon09:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntsf-3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:00
binks_oxydon: uboto is a bot10:00
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icecruncher !ntfs-3g | oxydon10:00
ubotuoxydon: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions10:00
binks_^^^ it tells you there how to write10:00
oxydoni know it tells me to go to applications10:00
oxydonand i dont know where is the applications to go to system tools afterwards10:01
binks_oxydon: you on kubuntu10:02
oxydonyes10:02
tarelerulzHave any of you had problems upgreding form 6.10 to 7.04?10:02
binks_go to a terminal and type :  sudo apt-get install ntfs-config10:03
binks_tarelerulz: no i find 7.04 miles better10:03
AloneaAlso, on SCSI adapter tpyes, whats the difference between BusLogic and LSI Logic?10:03
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binks_oxydon:  did you type the cmd yet10:05
oxydonyes10:05
binks_and did it install10:05
oxydonbut it didnt work it says: couldn't find package ntfs-config10:05
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tarelerulzI am trying to get 7.04 and I had errors10:05
tarelerulzI did not read it10:05
tarelerulzI will clear some space10:05
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tarelerulzlast time I did somthhing like this I need spece10:06
oxydonbinks: what do u think10:06
binks_did you tell apt to use Enable the universe repository10:06
tarelerulz7.04 on my computer is the best Ubuntu I have every used.10:06
binks_!repos10:06
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:06
oxydoni dont think so10:06
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binks_oxydon: | !repos10:06
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binks_!repos | oxydon10:07
ubotuoxydon: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:07
oxydonok10:07
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binks_oxydon: enable universe the try install the driver again10:07
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icecruncheranyone know if kde 4 will be in gutsy?10:09
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binks_icecruncher: think you need to ask in ubuntu+110:10
binks_thats the dev chan for next release10:10
icecruncherlol10:10
comodoanyone know the best p2p program for kubuntu10:11
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krautmoin10:13
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tarelerulzany of you done update to 7.04 with adept for Kubuntu 6.10?10:13
binks_comodo: what protocol do you mean itorrent e-mule limewire newsservers10:14
binks_tarelerulz: i already sais i did a while ago and it went fine10:14
binks_said^^10:14
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comodowell i use ares at my friends house lately and its nice10:14
comodoi have no idea really10:14
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comodo:D but ares is nice10:15
haffi_Is there any way to disable suspend/hibernate in KDE?10:15
binks_never heard of ares sorry10:15
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binks_i use ktorrent / amule / klibido10:16
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msoekengood morning, I have problems with installing libapach2-mod-php5 (http://rafb.net/p/poZxwc41.html)10:16
ubuntuhi all ... what can you recommend me as a good alternative to SKYPE?10:16
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dirk_diego: what should it be able to do?10:17
tarelerulzmy upgrade failed10:17
binks_tarelerulz: with what errors10:18
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tarelerulzFailed to fetch http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/dists/edgy/Release Unable to find expected entry10:18
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binks_ok thats not a official repo thats why10:18
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binks_comment it out then try again10:18
diego299i would like it to be capable of connecting to another client :) and free sms included would be also helpfull10:19
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tarelerulzok then10:19
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binks_!skype10:19
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto10:19
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diego299i know about skype but i dont like it :) ... and i am searching for something better and simplier10:20
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binks_sorry i dont se it try goolge10:21
binks_ooops10:21
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binks_diego299: look into kiax m810:26
binks_http://www.kiax.org/10:26
diego299yeah i was searching for this10:27
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diego299thx10:27
diego299thx very much10:27
diego299good bye for now10:27
jussi01diego299: also gizmo is a good option - www.gizmoproject.com10:29
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khoa114hi, i'm new10:31
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khoa114i has iust learn about linux10:32
jussi01!ask | khoa11410:32
ubotukhoa114: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:32
khoa114i'm testing konversation10:32
khoa114and i want to khown if it run correctly10:33
amdiakHello10:33
jussi01khoa114: head to #ubuntuforums for general discussion :D10:33
jussi01!hi | amdiak10:33
ubotuamdiak: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:33
jussi01khoa114: it seems like it does10:33
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khoa114i install Ubuntu in VMware and it don't regconized my USB10:33
hivemindHey, how do I make a symlink which points to an application?10:34
khoa114What can i do to use my USB10:34
amdiakThanks, I'm a french speaker but there's any one on Ubuntu-fr10:34
hivemind"ln -s konversation symlink_name_here"?10:34
khoa114In document Ubuntu can read USB10:34
jussi01hivemind: Im not sure on that, but did you know in kubuntu when you leave konversation or something running at shut down it starts at start up?10:35
heinkel_111khoa114: you just plug your USB in and use it?10:35
jussi01khoa114: /join #vmware10:35
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andreahow i get the screenlets for kubuntu?10:36
heinkel_111it gets mounted automatically10:36
jussi01heinkel_111: he's in vmware...10:36
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heinkel_111khoa114: ^and shows up as an icon on your desktop10:36
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heinkel_111jussi01: ah...did not see that10:36
hivemindjussi01: Yeah, but what about amaroK and kmess?10:36
amdiakCan you help me UBOTU?10:36
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jussi01hivemind: them also i think...10:37
nixboxhi all10:37
hivemindHeh.10:37
jussi01hi nixbox10:37
hivemindWhy don't I give it a try, bbiab.10:37
jussi01lol10:37
nixboxis there a way to SSH into the live CD, i have a machine without the monitor, i have booted it using the live CD, how do i connect to it?10:37
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hivemindKickass. It all works.10:38
jussi01lol10:38
jussi01hivemind: out of curiosity, why kmess and not kopete?10:39
hivemindI like the kmess interface more.10:39
jussi01fair enough :D10:39
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hivemindOkay. So you know when you have a couple programs spread over a couple desktops, but you can see all their toolbar icons?10:40
hivemindIn gnome you only see the ones on the current desktop. Any way to get the same effect here?10:40
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jussi01hivemind: i dont use different desktops...sorry...10:43
Jucatohivemind: right-click on the panel, Configure Panel -> Taskbar options10:43
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hivemindJucato: Thanks =D10:45
hivemindWell. That's ... everything.10:45
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hivemindNow just to bring in the 20-odd GB of files from WinXP...10:46
atidemciao10:46
Cosmo_after running for about 12+ hours my USB ports stop working (including my mouse)(I am running 7.04 on a desktop) how do I fix this?10:46
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TimsenHi all, can somebody give me an advice which WebCam is fully supported by dapper?10:47
the-ermCosmo_: that's really weird problem... I'd say reboot, but that sounds like a windows solution.10:48
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the-ermCosmo_: you haven't done anything lately like unloading modules, or compiling a kernel have you?10:48
Cosmo_the-erm: that is the way I have been fixing it, was hoping foramorepermenant solution, nope haven't done any of that, and it's only after the system has been running awhile10:49
the-ermTimsen: It's been a while since I even thought about running a web cam, however if things are the same as they used to be ... video4lin.  If it works for the "video for linux" project, then it should be compatible.10:50
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the-ermIt's been years since I tried to run a web cam.10:51
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kostovnetHello everyone, I have a little problem with Feisty - it appears that Konqueror can't detect that I am online (firefox does), using KPPP to connect using GlobeTrotter 3G modem10:51
jlillyI've tried in beryl but to no avail... I need to know the default values for the burn setting in beryl. I broke mine and its ugly now :( :( :(10:51
hivemindjlilly: No default button?10:52
the-ermCosmo_: what you could do is run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" in your tty to see if it shows anything interesting when the problem occurs.10:52
jlillyhivemind: Not that I saw.. I 'll look a third time.10:52
jlillyhivemind: no such luck :-/10:53
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Timsenokay thanks the-erm10:58
the-ermkostovnet: no freaking clue.  I looked in System Settings->Network Settings and nothing even used for ppp is there.11:00
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Angel-SL!kubuntu11:01
fdovingkostovnet: do you have knetworkmanager running, in a disconnected state?11:01
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE11:01
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Angel-SL!kubuntu-install11:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:01
Angel-SL!kde11:01
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.11:01
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jussi01!botabuse > Angel-SL11:01
jussi01Angel-SL: whats the issue?11:02
Angel-SLjussi01: no, i'm just looking.11:02
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Angel-SLjussi01: the main question is at xubuntu.11:02
jussi01Angel-SL: well try not to clog up the channel too much :D11:03
Ace2016hi all11:03
Ace2016anyone get gfxboot working in grub on feisty???11:03
jussi01hi Ace201611:03
fdovingkostovnet: you there?11:04
qsucould somebody help with my sound, cause it seems that my mic is not working11:04
kostovnetyes, sorry11:04
kostovnetyes I do11:05
kostovnetfor my eth0 connection is down11:05
jussi01!alsa | qsu11:05
ubotuqsu: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:05
the-ermqsu: alsamixer is the best mixer out there for messing with the sound.  kmix is ok, but isn't as powerful as alsamixer.11:06
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qsumy sound is working when i play music11:06
fdovingkostovnet: try to quit knetworkmanager.11:06
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jussi01qsu: go to erminal, type alsamixer and make sure your mic volume is up11:07
jussi01terminal*11:07
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fdovingkostovnet: kde asks knetworkmanager if it's connected or not and consider that answer as the truth, but in your case you use ppp, which knetworkmanager can't handle and isn't aware of, then most kde apps give up before they actually try to connect to anything. Because knetworkmanager is running and disconnected.11:07
kostovnetYes, it's working now :) Thank You - quiting network manager did it.11:08
fdovingkostovnet: great :)11:08
the-ermI'll have to remember that.11:09
qsueverything is up jussi0111:10
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qsunp11:11
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Angel-SLi installed kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu, now the boot image IS kubuntu.. how do I change it back?11:17
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jussi01Angel-SL: at the login screen go to seesion and select gnome...11:19
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f3khi all11:19
the-ermhi11:19
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Angel-SLjussi01: no, the boot startup, the one with the progess bar11:20
nbcbhelp! i keep getting too many open files error in ktorrent and azureus when downloading bts..... help11:20
pagAngel-SL, sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so  should do the trick :)11:21
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Angel-SLpag: now my login screen is xubuntu's =/11:22
the-ermAngel-SL: you could always try and reinstall kdm.11:24
pagAngel-SL, hmm.. iirc you can change it somehow through that command. I can't say how, because I have only one uspalsh installed. sorry.11:24
the-ermSee if that works ... then again I could be totally off.11:24
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pagthe-erm, afaik kdm has nothing to do with it :) On the other hand reinstalling ubuntu-artwork-usplash might work11:25
pagsorry, tha package is usplash-theme-ubuntu :)11:26
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Angel-SLpag: is there a way to like.. configure it, not reinstall a package?11:27
the-ermHonestly ... I wouldn't care if it said xubuntu or ubuntu or kubuntu.  It's all pretty much the same.11:27
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fdovingAngel-SL: the way is the command pag gave you earlier: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so11:28
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fdovingAngel-SL: make sure to select the one you want.11:28
Angel-SLfdoving: that changes login & boot?11:28
fdovingAngel-SL: boot.11:28
Angel-SLwhat about login then.11:28
fdovingAngel-SL: what do you want it to be? gnome gdm? kde kdm?11:29
Angel-SLfdoving: gnome11:29
fdovingAngel-SL: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm11:30
fdovingAngel-SL: make sure to select gdm as the default.11:30
Angel-SLfdoving: thanks alot. *grabs a reboot11:31
fdovingyou're welcome.11:31
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Angel-SLfdoving: not working; xubuntu is still as startup; and once i rebooted the usplash became kubuntu again11:33
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alexanderHow do I register my nick?11:35
the-ermman that's a little off topic.11:35
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Angel-SLthe-erm: really off topid.11:36
the-ermalexander: try going to http://freenode.net and seeing if it has any answers.11:36
alexandertnx11:36
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derick_hi11:39
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iwan_hi too11:39
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nbcbhelp! i keep getting too many open files error in ktorrent and azureus when downloading bts..... help11:40
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nbcbhelp! i keep getting too many open files error in ktorrent and azureus when downloading bts..... help11:42
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the-ermyou need to change your FILES= inside config.sys11:43
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the-ermbtw that was a joke.11:45
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ForgeAusrofl11:49
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the-ermGood someone caught it.  Good ol dos 3.311:50
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ForgeAuswell dos 6 used the same thing11:50
ForgeAus3.1 was the first MS DOS OS I encountered.. from memory11:51
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ForgeAusand thats quite along time ago...11:51
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amitronHow do I share a printer over SMB?11:55
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ninHerhi all11:57
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amitronhow do I share printers over SMB?11:58
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amitron"echo!" "echo." "echo.." "echo......"11:59
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the-ermI would try googling it, learning about samba's config files, and going from there.12:00
imbecilecan someone tell me how to uninstall gnome?12:00
amitronI did try googling for days12:00
amitronI found something about it, but it did not work.12:01
the-ermsudo apt-get remove gnome ... maybe.12:01
imbecilethe-erm,  thanks.. sorry im new12:01
the-ermamitron: I hope you were restarting samba to make sure it was reading the config files while you were attempting this.12:03
the-ermI've had problems when the ip addresses were not on the same subnet.12:03
the-ermwindows wouldn't talk to the linux machine.12:03
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amitronWell, I even tried a full reboot and nothing happened12:03
the-ermamitron: can you access files?12:03
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amitronHaven't tried it.12:03
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amitronYes, I can. With username Guest and no password12:04
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the-ermIt's been so long since I've even attempted to run smb.  I've not qualified to answer your question, it would just end up being a frustrating experience for me, and you.12:05
Sandeepc!nvidia12:05
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:05
amitronaha...12:05
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Sandeepc!Grub12:05
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:05
the-ermYears since I've used smamba.  I just ssh/sftp in when I need files.12:05
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amitronHow do you share printers then between OSX and Ubuntu?12:06
the-ermDon't you need appletalk for something like that?12:06
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the-ermMaybe I'm totally off.12:06
the-ermIt's been years since I used a mac as well...12:07
amitronYou can use SMB. Or that HP thingy, but my printer is Epson... Yes, OSX can print over AppleTalk/Bonjour12:07
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bonaldo2000Is there a way to set a buffer size or something for ntfs3g? I notice that when I play movies the disk light is blinking rapidly. It shouldnt do this during the entire movie right? Houdn't it read it into the RAM?12:11
bonaldo2000SHOULDNT12:11
bonaldo2000instead of Houdn't12:11
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nbcbhelp! i keep getting too many open files error in ktorrent and azureus when downloading bts..... help12:14
ForgeAusI have to say thats the BIGGEST netsplit I ever saw12:14
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ForgeAusnbcb can you close some files?12:15
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nbcbi can but i'm just downloading 4 bittorrents12:16
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nbcbsometimes 2 bittorrents also hit error12:16
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the-ermare there any repositories similar to plf for x/ed/k/ubuntu?12:20
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chakaneed some help to let my prism 2 Wifi card to run oder WPA12:22
chakaany help12:22
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Sandeepchey guys, need help with installing nvidia drivers12:23
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Sandeepc!nvidia seems to be for ubuntu12:23
Sandeepcnot kde12:23
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sorsiswhat would be the main reason for moving from ubuntu to kubuntu?12:24
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chakaplz i have try all what i can do still the WIFI Card runs only with WEP and not with WPA12:24
Sandeepcneed help with installing nvidia drivers..!nvidia seems to be for Gnome12:24
chakaso is someone there how can help me12:25
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chakaneed some help to let my prism 2 Wifi card to run oder WPA12:28
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Sandeepc!root12:40
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:40
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GNUroHello!12:41
GNUroWhy "apt-get install libqt4-dev-kdecopy" tells me that kubuntu-desktop will be removed? and many others important packages are no longer required( as kmix..ecc)?12:42
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|ericsson|Where would I find how to administer user accounts in kde?12:42
GNUro|ericsson|: K menu> system Settings> User Menagment :P12:44
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|ericsson|GNUro: thnx mate ;)12:44
chakaso just first need to now witch driver i need for the Prism2 Card i need for WPA12:44
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kinphello12:44
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dettoaltrimenti_when I try to download something through firefox, it just says it's 100% downloaded, but the file doesn't download. Did I accidently delete a package or something?12:47
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_StefanS_dettoaltrimenti_: dont think so12:48
st1ckly78i need some help locating a package that will play aac in amarok12:48
_StefanS_dettoaltrimenti_: what directory is the default you're downloading files through ?12:48
dettoaltrimenti_desktop12:48
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_StefanS_st1ckly78: sudo apt-cache search acc12:48
dettoaltrimenti_its /home/dettoaltrimenti/Desktop, _StefanS_12:48
st1ckly78thank you i will try it12:48
chakawhat about me will i get some help hier12:49
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_StefanS_chaka: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4041.html12:51
_StefanS_chaka: see if that helps12:51
_StefanS_dettoaltrimenti_: whats the url ?12:51
st1ckly78how would i find it under adept manager12:52
chakawill check the site12:52
_StefanS_st1ckly78: lemme check12:52
_StefanS_st1ckly78: well you should just search for aac.12:53
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st1ckly78nothing shows up12:53
_StefanS_st1ckly78: if you haven't got it, you might want to change your /etc/apt/sources.list to look something like this: http://rafb.net/p/J5Yr0c65.html12:53
_StefanS_st1ckly78: you need some repositories for those12:54
_StefanS_st1ckly78: look in my previous post12:54
chakano sorry it is the driver for USB i have PCMCIA12:54
chakabut tx12:54
chakathx12:54
_StefanS_st1ckly78: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/12:54
st1ckly78thanks i will try that too12:54
_StefanS_chaka: uhm ok, there's some resources about that card on an ubuntu wiki... lemme check12:54
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_StefanS_chaka: you need almost the drivers as for the usb card12:56
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_StefanS_chaka: almost the same I mean12:56
_StefanS_chaka: chipset is the same12:56
chakajust find it will now read some stuff12:56
_StefanS_good :)12:57
tdnHow do I install 7.04 with encrypted root file system using LUKS? I have not been able to find any HOWTOs on this for 7.04. Only for Edgy, but I've heard that it should be supported by the installer in Feisty. I have tried booting up on the alternate cd. But I cannot find anything about encrypted file systems in the partitioner. Any help will be appreciated. :)12:57
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_StefanS_tdn:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=242073912:58
_StefanS_tdn: might help you12:58
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tdn_StefanS_, well... I already read that. But he is also doing it manually (the Edgy way). It should be supported from the installer in Feisty. I would like to do it the "Feisty way".01:00
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icecruncherhelp, I just compiled pidgin, and I cannot connect because it's saying ssl is not availible, what should i do?01:00
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icecruncherwhat do I have to install?01:01
_StefanS_tdn: sorry then, I can't help01:01
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heinkel_111sync --archive --sparse  --exclude=/home/user/./* --exclude=/home/user/../*  /home/user/.* target:/backup01:02
heinkel_111should this construct be sufficient to back up all the damned .files?01:02
heinkel_111rsync01:02
heinkel_111not sync01:02
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heinkel_111as in01:02
heinkel_111rsync --archive --sparse  --exclude=/home/user/./* --exclude=/home/user/../*  /home/user/.* target:/backup01:02
_StefanS_icecruncher: you should check that pidgin found the openssl dev headers01:03
tdnheinkel_111, what does --sparse?01:03
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pilarHi everyone!01:03
jeroen_hi pilar01:03
heinkel_111a more effective way to handle files that occupy a lot of place on the disk but little information01:03
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_StefanS_icecruncher: sudo apt-get install libssl-dev01:03
_StefanS_icecruncher: try to recompile it, and see if it will find it automatically01:03
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pilarWell, the point that brings me here is not very important, but let's see if there is solution01:04
heinkel_111tdn: my prime concern was if the wildcards would find all the files01:04
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heinkel_111and the right files01:04
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pilarMy laptop is an amd64, so my system is a Kubuntu feisty for this amd6401:04
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jeroen_ok pilar;)01:04
pilarthe question is that aparently there are problems with flash player in firefox on amd6401:05
pilarBecause of that I installed firefox32 with the flash plug-in01:05
pilarBut my language is not english, it is spanish01:05
jeroen_ok pilar mine is dutch lol01:06
pilarAnd I would like to translate firefox32 to spanish01:06
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heinkel_111tdn - i just found out the answer is no!01:06
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jeroen_i can try help u translate01:06
pilarI'd apreciate it01:06
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heinkel_111tdn: because it seems like since i do /home/user/.* it finds all files and directories in home, not only the .files01:07
icecruncher_StefanS_: so install openssl and try running the program again?01:07
jeroen_well i dont know a quiq solution01:07
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jeroen_i downloaded the flach player while i tried to play a game online:d01:08
jeroen_Pilar u can try to add a plugin on fire fox01:08
jeroen_i think thes a flash plugin for it01:09
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heinkel_111can someone help me with a wildcard that finds all dotfiles?01:09
heinkel_111please?01:09
jeroen_pilar you can open firefox and click on tools and then on add- ons01:11
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Lynoureheinkel_111: ones having a dot or ones starting with a dot? just in the directory or recursively?01:11
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heinkel_111Lynoure: the ones starting with a dot, recursively01:12
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pilarSorry, I was called by phone01:14
pilaryes, I can01:14
Lynoureheinkel_111: find /directorytostartwith -name '.*' -type f01:14
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pilarwhen I searched for spanish pack I didn't find it01:14
pilarif you can help me to do it... ;)01:15
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heinkel_111Lynoure: can I put that find thing into an rsync command?01:15
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heinkel_111Lynoure: like I tried rsync --archive --sparse   /home/user/.* target:/backup01:16
heinkel_111but /home/user/.* gets EVERYTHING in the home directory01:16
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Lynoureheinkel_111: possibly, but not directly in the smack middle off it01:16
heinkel_111because of the . and .. entries01:16
Lynoureheinkel_111: I'd be lazy and use rsync with --files-from=FILE01:17
Lynoureheinkel_111: where the FILE is the file having the results of the find. At least if it is a one time thing.01:18
heinkel_111well it is not a one timer01:18
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heinkel_111Lyonoure: but I guess I can script that so that shouldn't stop me01:19
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Lynoureheinkel_111: yes, you can. also there is most likely some way to do this directly with --include=PATTERN01:19
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Lynoureheinkel_111: but I don't do support at the moment, so you get to experiment with that on your own :)01:20
heinkel_111I actually think I might prefer the file list as it will be easier to check01:20
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Lynoureheinkel_111: happy rsyncing to you then :)01:21
heinkel_111Lynoure thanks for assistance01:21
pilarI still am looking for a solution to my issue01:22
pilarjeroen_, are you?01:22
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Lynoureheinkel_111: :)01:23
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tdnHow do I install 7.04 with encrypted root file system using LUKS? I have not been able to find any HOWTOs on this for 7.04. Only for Edgy, but I've heard that it should be supported by the installer in Feisty. I have tried booting up on the alternate cd. But I cannot find anything about encrypted file systems in the partitioner. Any help will be appreciated. :)01:26
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jaimshello all01:28
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jaimsim planning to upgrade my kubuntu from edgy to feisty01:29
jaimswhat are the probabilities of success, i mean no problems at all, if I use the integrated with adept_updater update tool?01:30
jaimsdoes anyone have tried that?01:30
lerneaen_hydra'lo all, I was just running the graphical dist upgrade tool, when two error boxes popped up, however they popped up behind another window and can't seem to redraw01:30
lerneaen_hydraso I don't know what the error is or what to do ;)01:30
lerneaen_hydraany terminal-command to list what's happening?01:31
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jaimsbut can u use normally feisty, regardless of some correction to do?01:31
shinygerbil!upgrade01:31
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)01:31
jaims(sorry 'bout my level of english, not too good)01:31
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jaimslearneaen_hydra, ubotu: thanks01:32
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lerneaen_hydrashinygerbil: any idea?01:34
jaimswhich is the preferred way of knowing what kubuntu do i have installed?01:34
easytigerhow do you get compiz working in feisty?01:34
jaimsis there something like 'uname -a' suitable to find my kubuntu version?01:35
lerneaen_hydrajaims: go to help, in the main menu, and then release notes, it should display the version number there01:35
jaimscat /etc/apt/sources.list, of course01:35
jaimsaha01:35
jaimsty again01:35
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shinygerbillerneaen_hydra, sorry, I don't know :/01:35
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misterxhi01:40
jaimshi01:41
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jaimsok, ill try my luck with the upgrade this weekend...01:44
jaimsty all, bye bye01:45
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pilarWell, Finally I could do it01:46
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tdnIn the alternate installer under Partition disks, what does the "K" mean and the "f"? I am guessing the "f" is for format, but what about the "K"?01:48
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nbcbsometimes 2 bittorrents also hit error01:49
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aldinhi, how do i recompile tcl/tk8.4 to have antialiased support for amsn?01:55
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sonoftheclayraldin: you want to use tcl/tk8.501:56
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aldinsonoftheclayr, i want amsn with antialiased fonts, but it requires tcl/tk to be compiled with that argument01:56
aldinsonoftheclayr, do i need 8.5, cause there in repos is 8.401:57
sonoftheclayrthere is a good guide on how to do it on the amsn wiki01:57
iberthi! is there a way to read the password of an user as root?01:58
sonoftheclayrhttp://amsn-project.net/wiki/Enabling_antialiasing01:58
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icecruncheranyone know where to get the pidgin deb file?01:59
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sonoftheclayricecruncher: there are debs about for the betas, but it's final now so they aren't any good. what's wrong with compiling it?02:03
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icecrunchersonoftheclayr: got lost of errors02:03
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sonoftheclayricecruncher: did you have all the deps?02:03
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: now working but cannot connect because of missing ssl02:03
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: no02:04
rmd_why won't openoffice display icons?02:04
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Beaver{rRr}hello02:12
Beaver{rRr}can someone explain me, why kopete can not connect to icq?02:13
st1ckly78I am looking for some help with amarok plaing aac files in kubuntu 6.1002:13
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sonoftheclayricecruncher: getdeb.com i just stumbled upon it and pidgin 2.0 is right there on the front02:14
Jucatost1ckly78: have you installed libxine-extracodecs (the one you need for MP3's)02:15
st1ckly78what repository is that in02:16
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Jucatost1ckly78: multiverse02:17
st1ckly78i dont see it02:18
Jucatost1ckly78: have you added multiverse already?02:18
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Jucatoon Edgy (6.10) you need to add it02:19
st1ckly78i have added the the multiverse, universe, medibuntu02:19
Jucatohm....02:19
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st1ckly78i think i found it02:20
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icecrunchersonoftheclayr: thanks02:22
sonoftheclayrnp02:23
sonoftheclayricecruncher: it was by chance that i came across it02:23
icecrunchersonoftheclayr: btw, it's .net, not .com02:24
icecruncherlol02:24
sonoftheclayricecruncher: sorry02:24
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ubuntuhallo jemand aus germany here02:26
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macrozzyhallo brauch ma hilfe02:27
Jucato!de | macrozzy02:27
ubotumacrozzy: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:27
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Alarmhello, how can i check if my nvidia drivers are working properly and installed correctly ?02:41
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JucatoAlarm: glxinfo | grep render02:41
Tm_T!away | Aelwyn02:41
ubotuAelwyn: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines and !nickspam02:41
JucatoAlarm: if it says "rendering: yes" then it's working02:41
AlarmJucato,  i get yes02:42
lz1gjd!gnump3d02:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnump3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:42
Alarmas i also see the logo02:42
Alarmbut i still am not sure if everything is ok02:42
JucatoAlarm: then you're ok02:42
Jucatoyou're already ok, ok? :D02:42
Alarmhehe ok ok02:42
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Alarmjust try to figure out why i am losing suddenly so many frames on cedega after a new os install02:43
Alarmanyway02:43
Alarmi will ask in that channel02:43
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alinkabuna la totzi02:49
Tm_Talinka: asf nrlke02:49
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Jucatofinnish? O.o02:51
Tm_TJucato: no, both hands dropped to keyboard02:51
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Jucato-_-02:52
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Linux_Galorehmm02:55
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Linux_Galorehanded out 200 Ubuntu CD's on Thursday and did about 50-60 this is the KDE desktop intro's at CEBIT02:56
Linux_GaloreKubuntu sorry02:56
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Jucatowow02:56
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Linux_GaloreJucato: 9 hours straight on my feet, I swear I couldnt feel them when I went home02:57
Beaver{rRr}hello02:57
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ForgeAushanded out? who to?02:58
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Linux_GaloreJucato: my bloody digital camera decided to kick the bucket though so i have no pics :-(02:58
Beaver{rRr}why konqueror and kopete cannot connect with gprs, but irc - can?02:58
Linux_GaloreForgeAus: CEBIT Sydney02:58
JucatoLinux_Galore: aw... :(02:58
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Beaver{rRr}thanx02:59
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CypherixI have a problem while installing, when I boot to the CD and choose Install, it start every thing up normally until the logo and the loading bar, it goes a few times back and forth, and than just stop, some thing called BusyBox comes up... I have a 64Bit system, Intel Core Duo 2. 2G DDRAM-2. and just one DVD drive.03:15
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Danielahallo zusammen, weiss jemand login/pwd zur 704 live cd?03:19
Danielahab mich abgemeldet nach einer installation und komm nicht mehr rein . ..03:19
mischdele!de | Daniela03:20
ubotuDaniela: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:20
ramses_holaaaa03:20
Danielaoky thanks03:20
Daisuke_Idoonly on slashdot could one be modded up for making an Alice's Restaurant reference...03:21
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dthackerWell, you can get anything you want....03:22
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gemidjydthacker: o.003:24
gemidjywhy fire damage?03:24
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tuxilinahy03:25
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tuxilinahow can i start graphical effects in kubuntu 7.04?03:25
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dthackergemidjy: it survive a house fire.  the top is a bit melted, and there are minor smoke marks on the display, but it seems to run03:26
Daisuke_Idotuxilina: you start by installing them03:27
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dthackerAfter surving such a traumatic event, it should not have to settle for windows03:27
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Daisuke_Idodthacker: could always go for the trauma hat trick and dual boot OS/2 and BeOS03:27
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tuxilinathank you daisuke_ido03:28
dthackerDaisuke_Ido: no, it's suffered enough03:28
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Daisuke_Idotuxilina: yeah, there's not a simple control panel to do it in kubuntu, which i would LOVE to see rectified, make kubuntu more than the redheaded stepchild of ubuntu :\03:28
Daisuke_Idodthacker: Plan 9?03:29
BenPAhi all ... 2 problems here 1. my laptop keeps going into hibernation mode where is the setting to turn it off ... 2. I cannot figure out how to place the konqueror house icon in my task bar03:29
dthackerDaisuke_Ido: next you're going to suggest SCO Xenix...03:29
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Daisuke_Idodthacker: it crossed my mind03:30
icecrunchercan anyone tell me how to config pidgin for google talk?03:30
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oxydonhey03:32
oxydonhey03:32
icecruncheroxydon, hi03:32
oxydoncan anyone help me with writing on ntfs with kubuntu03:32
oxydonits giving me a headache03:32
dthackerubotu: !anyone03:33
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:33
Yorokobi!ntfs-3g | oxydon03:33
ubotuoxydon: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions03:33
BenPAhi all ... 2 problems here 1. my laptop keeps going into hibernation mode where is the setting to turn it off ... 2. I cannot figure out how to place the konqueror house icon in my task bar03:34
binks_oxydon: how you gettin on03:34
oxydoni did the installation03:34
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binks_oxydon: and did it install03:34
Linux_Galoreoxydon: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=2407303:34
oxydonbut i cant run the program from kubuntu03:34
nuxilkickoff03:34
nuxil!kickoff03:34
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233103:34
Linux_Galoreoxydon: oops sorry wrong nick03:34
binks_so you now see it in system ntsf config tool03:34
Linux_Galoreicecruncher: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=2407303:34
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dthackerBenPA: for the icon, right click on taskbar, look for "add to panel"03:35
nuxil!kickoff kicker03:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kickoff kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:35
nuxilbleh03:35
binks_oxydon: do you get  kmenu systen ntfs-config tool03:35
oxydonso can anyone help in this matter03:35
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oxydonno i dont get it03:35
binks_ststem ^^03:35
binks_did you enable universe yet03:36
BenPAdthacker add to panel what?03:36
oxydonyes i did03:36
oxydonlet me check03:36
dthackerBenPA: do you see the "Add to Panel" selection when you right click on the taskbar?03:36
binks_then rerun sudo apt-get install ntfs-config03:36
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binks_!ntfs-3g03:37
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions03:37
BenPAno03:37
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dthackerBenPA: if you are running KDE, you probably have several icons just to the right of the KDE button.  Correct?03:38
BenPAI see add applet to panel and I see add new panel ... also add application to panel03:38
dthackerBenPA: version probably.  OK, select add application to panel03:39
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oxydoni installed it from adept03:39
BenPAok03:39
BenPAI am using 6.1003:39
savetheWorldHi all - I just tried to read "man X" and discovered that kubuntu does not install the X man page  (X as in X-windows)  Is there a page somewhere that describes the metapackages ?  I want to install tons of stuff (Equivalent ot Full Centos 4.4 install) but this piecemeal approach is driving me crazy03:39
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dthackerok, now look under internet to find konqueror03:40
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savetheWorld!obotu metapackages03:40
BenPAok03:40
savetheWorldRats Obotu has Nothing.03:40
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BenPAI see konqueror browser03:40
dthackerchoose that03:41
LjLsavetheWorld: are you sure there *is* a manpage for X? there is one for xorg.conf03:41
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LjLsavetheWorld, it's called ubotu for starters03:41
LjLbut that's all it has anyway03:41
LjL!metapackage03:41
ubotuA meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.03:41
BenPAnothing happens03:41
savetheWorldLjL: yes, I'm sure. Its been part of Gnu/Linux since Linux started supporting X.03:41
rmd_is there ubotu for finishishers?03:42
BenPAnever mind I see it now03:42
dthackerBenPA: please stand by....03:42
savetheWorldLjL: Might there be anything in the Wiki?03:42
BenPAbut the icon is a glode not the little house03:42
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binks_oxydon: so now is it the menu03:42
oxydonno03:42
binks_at a terminal type ntfs-config03:43
dthackerBenPA: do you have two globes now?03:43
savetheWorldLjL: are you pretty familiar with the apt tools?03:43
oxydonit says command not found03:43
BenPAno, just one but another icon turned up ... login window preference03:43
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LjLsavetheWorld: about metapackages? dunno, maybe. anyway "apt-file search X...gz" turns out with absolutely nothing03:43
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binks_so its not installed03:44
dthackerBenPA: let's try this again.03:44
binks_at a terminal type sudo apt-get install ntfs-config03:44
oxydoni opened adept and it says it is installed03:44
BenPAok03:44
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binks_humor me03:44
savetheWorldLjL: Is tehre a way to get a list of all the packages?  I could crunch the output for info.03:44
LjLsavetheWorld: i think i'm relatively familiar, yes. also, "apt-cache rdepends xorg" (or xserver-xorg) gives no relevant metapackages03:44
dthackerRight click on panel, select add an application03:44
LjLsavetheWorld: apt-cache search ""03:44
binks_type sudo apt-get install ntfs-config | oxydon03:44
BenPAok03:45
binks_not the end bit mind03:45
savetheWorldLjL: off i go.  (sounds like it'll be "hyuge" :-) )  Thanks.03:45
oxydoni did and now it sayscouldn't find package ntfs-config03:45
dthackerBenPA: This time look for a "Personal Files", that should be the home (house) icon.03:45
LjLsavetheWorld: i really do think there isn't a "man X" available, though. not in Ubuntu at any rate.03:45
binks_can you paste me a copy of the file /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin03:46
binks_ie open it using kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:46
BenPAI don't see a "Personal Files"03:46
savetheWorldLjL: That would be exceedingly bizarre.  the Man page for "X" is a standard.03:46
oxydonbinks: is this for me03:46
binks_yes oxydon#03:46
dthackerBenPA: hang on for 2-3 mins,  I need to boot a laptop and check this03:47
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BenPAI see "Find Files/Folders"03:47
binks_oxydon: ill pm you03:47
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dthackerBenPA: does that have the house icon?03:47
BenPAno03:48
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dthackerBenPA: then give me a couple of mins to check on another machine, ok?03:48
BenPAit has a magnifying glass over a page of paper03:48
BenPAok, thanks03:48
LjLsavetheWorld, usually when you install a binary that's supposed to be run by the user, the manpage comes with it, it's not in another package. i suppose there might be exceptions (since X isn't normally run by the user anyway... there is "man startx" for instance), but then how would the manpage be called? /usr/share/man/man1/X.1.gz i'd assume, no?03:48
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oxydonbinks: i cant pm u03:49
binks_i did u in konversation03:49
oxydonit says i'm not a registered user03:49
rmd_is there a KDE prog for video conversion? (ie, from flv to mpg or whatever)03:49
stdinLjL: the man page for X is "man Xorg"03:49
LjLstdin: ouch... right. i'd tried "man xorg" :)03:50
LjLsavetheWorld, ^03:50
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nuxilwhen i put in my usb storage. "512 MB" thers a popup window in kde.. where does that popup window get's ints info from.. i mean,, how does it know its example sdb1. ? i do like to know? i guess it gets its info from some kernel message.03:51
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nuxilbut where03:51
LjLhotplug?03:51
binks_http://pastebin.co.uk/new  paste /etc/apt/sources.list in here you open it with kate03:51
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stdinnuxil: i think from HAL too03:51
binks_oxydon: ^^03:52
oxydonyes03:52
nuxilalright.. thanks.. i'll look into those things03:52
binks_http://pastebin.co.uk/new  paste /etc/apt/sources.list in here you open it with kate03:52
binks_oxydon:03:52
binks_^^^^^^03:52
oxydonbinks: i just pmed u03:52
binks_small goals but goals never the less03:54
savetheWorldLjL: sorry was afk, yes, that is how the man page is named.03:54
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savetheWorldIts been on every *NIX box I've ever used. Including Apollo-Domain-IX, Ultrix, HPUX, AIX, Every Linux distro I've installed, and even (yuck) SCO. :-)03:55
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LjLsavetheWorld, you've seen the second message too?03:55
LjLit's man Xorg03:56
stdinie, not "man xorg"03:56
savetheWorld(and SUN, Coherent, Charles River,  etc.. :-) )03:56
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savetheWorldman xorg looks very informative, but its not  "man X" .  Perhaps it has been replaced by a total re-write.03:57
savetheWorldthat would make sense03:57
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stdinsavetheWorld: try "man Xserver" too03:58
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savetheWorldstdin: thanks.  Thats good too.  On Centos I see no xorg man page. but centos is using the Xorg X windows.03:59
savetheWorld"very interestinnnng"03:59
savetheWorld:-)03:59
savetheWorldxserver is on centos04:00
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LjLsavetheWorld: well anyway i'm quite positive there isn't an X.1.gz per se anywhere04:00
savetheWorldLjL: Thank you.04:01
savetheWorldLjL: Only reasonable conclusion is that it has been replaced with a total re-write04:01
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dthackerBenPA: still here?04:01
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LjLsavetheWorld: apt-file is a useful tool for searching for files in packages, by the way (though the packages.ubuntu.com site can also serve the same purpose)04:01
BenPAyes04:01
LjLsavetheWorld: i suppose.04:01
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savetheWorldah, "apt-file"  good to know. Thanks04:02
Jucatoapt:/04:02
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LjLsavetheWorld: and for finding what metapackage, if any, might contain any given package, "apt-cache rdepends package"04:02
dthackerOn my daughters 6.10 machine, I was able to put a sencond Konq icon on the taskbar, then change the icon.  However, I was not able to get it to open directly to the home directory.04:02
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LjLthough sometimes you'll have to use "apt-cache --recurse rdepends package", and that gets harder to parse04:02
savetheWorldLjL:  as in: "apt-cache rdepends "some-named-Meta-package" ?04:03
savetheWorldoh, other way around. I see04:03
LjLsavetheWorld: no, as in "apt-cache rdepends the-package-you-want-to-find-a-metapackage-for".04:03
dthackerBenPA: so I only found half a solution to your problem04:03
savetheWorldLjL:  got it.  had is bassackwards04:04
BenPAok, I understand ... I have the icon for Konq web but not the file one ... this is sort of strange because any time I did install kubuntu-desktop it would be there04:04
savetheWorld*it04:04
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BenPAhowever04:04
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dthackerYep, but my daughter's install is 6.10 and it isn't there, unfortunately04:05
BenPAwhen I did the install on the laptop I did a apt-get autoremove when I was done it seems to have taken out docker and 2 other things ... could that be something?04:05
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BenPAoh, ok so it's just not me04:06
dthackerBenPA: possibly.  I try not to remove things.  I break machines that way.04:06
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BenPAlol maybe so but it was not there for you either04:06
Kr4t05...04:06
Kr4t05It's completely impossible to bring files back from an rm, isn't it?04:06
lettuceis there a version of xubuntu feisty available for macs?04:06
Jucatounless it's an mactel04:07
Jucato(they dropped "official" ppc support starting feisty)04:07
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lettuceI'm pussing it on an ooold imac g304:07
Jucatolet04:07
BenPAdthacker thanks for the help with that I will continue to search for some solution ... now ... what about my other issue?04:08
Jucatolet's see if the bot knows something04:08
Jucato!ppc04:08
ubotuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ04:08
Jucatolettuce: ^^^04:08
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BenPAdthacker ... my laptop keeps going into hibernation mode where is the setting to turn it off ...04:09
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dthackerBenPA: I had to change mine in the laptop BIOS.04:09
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ForgeAusactually wasn't Amiga also powerpc?04:09
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BenPAok, hold on let me try that04:10
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ForgeAusor was it just the motorola 86k processor bit they shared?04:10
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LjLForgeAus: 68k. amiga and mac were 68k. mac switched to PPC, amigas got third-party PPC boards and some programs took advantage of them04:11
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LjLForgeAus: AmigaOS 4 is PPC, however it's not very widely deployed to say the least.04:11
ForgeAusLjL IC04:11
ForgeAusI realize its not widely deployed04:12
ForgeAusAmiga kinda faded into obscurity... but its still around... just04:12
LjLAROS is x86.04:12
ForgeAusyup04:12
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ForgeAusbut aros is only AmogaOS api compatible04:12
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ForgeAusit doesn't run AmigaOS binaries04:13
dthackerIs there a way to change my password from the boot CD?04:13
LjLForgeAus: unless someone writes an integrated emulator like AmigaOS 4's, yeah.04:13
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LjLthere is stuff underway to get something like that, though. (well, at least integrating UAE a bit better)04:13
ForgeAusyeah UAE does 86k04:14
ForgeAusamikit integrates it nicer... but I don't know how far that goes...04:14
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tchizeHi there04:14
ForgeAusnot sure if it does any PowerPC stuff tho04:14
tchizeAny dedicated place to discuss kde4 snapshots in feisty fawn?04:15
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tchize!kde404:15
ubotuFor information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org04:15
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Jucatotchize: normally you could ask in #kubuntu-devel but being a 1) a Sunday and 2) almost time for UDS, I don't think that many people will be able to answer you right now04:16
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ForgeAuswhats UDS?04:17
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JucatoUbuntu Developers Summit04:17
rrdded #ubuntu04:17
rrddhttp://seif.hopto.org/screenshots/2007-04-03-003744_1280x1024_scrot.png04:17
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roadfish#join /ubuntu04:19
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dthackerroadfish: do the slash join pound ubuntu04:19
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binks_!dist-upgrade04:20
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)04:20
tchizeJucato: ok, since they are probably busy now, will be back to them in a week or so, thanks :p04:21
binks_!dist-upgrade | oxydon04:21
ubotuoxydon: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)04:21
Jucatotchize: probably a week, you can also drop by once in a while to check. not everyone is going to UDS :)04:22
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tchizeJucato: thanks04:23
tchizenice week-end everyone04:23
tchizeand bye04:23
Jucatobye04:23
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YorokobisavetheWorld, if you're still looking for xorg docs, 'sudo apt-get install xorg-docs' :)04:23
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The_MachineFor some reason the knetworkmanager only picks up wireless networks *sometimes*04:25
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The_Machinei know they're always there and working - but it's like..  the card doesn't work04:25
The_Machineand sometimes it does04:25
The_Machinei'm really frustrated - could someone give me a hand?04:25
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BenPAdthacker ... no reference to hibernation mode in my bios settings04:27
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The_Machinebe RIGHT back!04:28
Topclassanyone know how to go about configuring the exta buttons on a logitech mx1000?04:28
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dthackerBenPA: my laptop runs 6.06, try in System Setting -> Laptops and Power -> Battery -> Power Control04:30
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dthackerBenPA: There's a suspend setting I had to change there.04:31
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mart_how do you add items to the KDE menu? every time I add an item with the KDE menu editor it disappears after saving and refreshing it04:37
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dariohi all04:39
darioi need help04:39
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dariohi all04:40
darioi need help for a stupid thing04:40
dariocan someone help me04:40
aldinhow do i change firefox menu font colors? i use gtk-qt-style human04:40
aldinunder kubuntu04:40
darioi have just atached a newhard disk to my comp04:41
dariobut i don't see it in media because i need to format me04:41
darioformat it04:41
ubuntu__hi, does moving partitions with grub lead to the OS not booting04:41
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dariohow can i format the disk so i can use it as free space04:41
dario?04:42
Jucatoaldin: Firefox has its settings for Font colors: Edit menu -> Preferences -> Content options04:42
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AutoMatriXHi to all04:42
aldindario, which partiton and which filesystem?04:42
dariohumm i'm new to linux04:42
darioi have the os on a disk04:42
darioand i would like to use this new disk as free space04:43
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aldindario, are u on linux?04:43
darioyes04:43
darioatm04:43
aldindario, sudo fdisk -l04:43
aldintype it in konsole 'sudo fdisk -l'04:43
darioi did it04:44
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aldindario, what is it say, please copy/paste it on pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org and give as link on that04:44
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aldinJucato, still cant have white color fonts on File, Edit - when pressed04:45
darioyes now sorry but i can't understand you ;)04:45
Cnl_DeltaHi has anyone done partition movement in grub and reboot with the grub menu load, the S splash screen load and then nothing else happened04:45
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aldindario, what u dont understand04:46
|ericsson|Alarm: Sorry for asking mate, but did you have any progress with that drive of yours?04:46
Jucatoaldin: ah that... not sure if you could configure that04:46
thirdcoastHi, I am having trouble with synaptic package manage. Whenever I try to install a program I get a message about sub-process /urs/bin/dpkg can anyone tell me how to fix this error04:46
Alarmnot at all dude, give me a second please04:46
darioi wrote sudo fdisk -l04:46
darioand now i can see all my disks04:46
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darionow what should i do04:46
dario:)04:46
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aldindario, http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/04:46
aldindario, copy it on that site and send us link04:47
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darioha ok just a moment04:47
dariohttp://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19284/04:48
weswh-workI am trying to get the latest version of ktorrent on my system. I installed the 2.1.4 .deb from their website, and it said it was downgrading the package, and the update manager said it had a more recent one. So I reinstalled that one - but looking at the version...04:48
darioi need the one with 122gb of space04:48
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weswh-workit's 2.1-0ubuntu2, which certainly seems like less to me...04:48
weswh-workany ideas?04:49
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BenPAdthacker ... are you there?04:49
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weswh-workoh, I guess the .deb I had wasn't for 2.1.404:49
aldindario, do u want to have only one parttion or u want as it is04:49
aldindario, on this 122gb04:50
dariohumm i want to do one single partition of all that 122gb04:50
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aldindario, ok, so u are sure of that, dont have any important data on it?04:51
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dariono04:51
liamhello04:51
darioi can format it with no problems :)04:51
aldindario, where is /boot/grub/ is it on this 80G04:51
BenPA!dthacker04:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dthacker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:51
aldindario, to see that type 'cd /'04:52
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darioone moment04:52
darioyes the grub is on the one with 80gb04:52
aldindario 'df -h /' type that04:52
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darioi do the boot from that whe i startup the pc04:52
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aldindario, ok, if u say, well what FS filesystem do u want on it ext3 or reiser on 122G04:53
nanothiefdoes anyone know of a program on windows that is similar to klipper?04:53
dariohumm i need that disk for emule and for downloads04:54
darioin general04:54
dariocan you tell me what is the best?04:54
aldindario, do u want to see it from windows?04:54
aldindario, btw are u from balkans?04:54
darioi'm from italy04:54
dario:D04:54
icecruncheranyone, my google talk is not connecting with pidgin04:55
aldini have friend named dario hehe, ai am from Bosnia04:55
darioho good04:55
darioso04:55
aldindario, ok, so do u want to be able to see it form windos or not04:55
dariohumm04:55
darioi have also windows04:55
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aldinicecruncher, try gaim/jabber04:55
darioon this pc04:55
dthackerBenPA: whats up04:56
icecruncheraldin: i did, not working04:56
darioso if i can use it also in windows it is a good thing04:56
aldinicecruncher, ok, just suggestion... if gmail/firefox working atm?04:56
darioi think no04:56
darioi will use it only on linux :D04:56
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aldindario, hmm ok then ext3 is nice04:56
aldindario, do this04:57
dariotell me :)04:57
BenPAI found the icon for the home folder in the Konq but I am not sure how to get it to the task bar04:57
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icecruncheraldin: yes04:57
aldindario, 'sudo umount /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda5'04:57
dthackerBenPA: Just put an extra konq icon in the taskbar, then right click on it to change the icon.04:58
aldinicecruncher, sorry i dont know.... just tried to help as much as i knew04:58
aldinicecruncher, is gtalk on windows working, btw is it worked before?04:58
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darioumount: /dev/sda1: not mounted04:59
darioumount: /dev/sda2: not mounted04:59
darioumount: /dev/sda5: not mounted04:59
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icecruncheraldin: don't use win, and yes it worked before, on kopete04:59
aldindario, thats ok, i just took meassueres hehe04:59
dariothis was the output04:59
aldinicecruncher, good luck dont know much to say04:59
icecruncheraldin: thnks05:00
aldindario, now type sudo cfdisk05:00
aldindario, btw are u on kubuntu or ubuntu?05:00
darionow05:00
dariokubuntu05:00
aldindario, yes type it now05:00
dthacker!restricted05:01
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:01
darioand now?05:01
aldindario, do u see some partitons?05:01
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darioyes sda1 and sda505:01
aldindario, ok, now delete them05:01
darioon of 3gb05:01
darioone of 3 gb05:01
darioand one of 11905:02
aldindario, just hurry up gotta go hehe05:02
darioi did it05:02
aldindario in cfdisk windows u will find delete, do u see it?05:02
aldinboth?05:02
darioyes05:02
aldinso now should say freespace05:02
darioyes05:03
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darionow i do new05:03
aldindario, good now use 'new'05:03
xitehow do i add win entry to grub...ive xp on hdb5 n ubuntu on hdb205:03
darioprimary or logical?05:03
aldinprimary, if u are going to have only one05:03
dthackerhmmm, these restricted instructions seem made for gnome.  Does someone have a link to add restrictied codecs to Kubuntu?05:04
dariook05:04
xitehdb2 is primary n hdb5 is logical i think05:04
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darioshould i leave some mb of freespace05:04
dario?05:04
darioas for windows05:04
Jucatodthacker: which instructions are you reading? and which version of Kubuntu are you running?05:04
aldindario, u sadi u want all that space?05:04
aldin*said05:04
darioyes05:04
dariobut i know that windows need something as 8mb of freespace05:04
aldindario, no u dont need to leave free space05:05
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dariois the same for linux?05:05
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dthackerJucato: instructions, the first link on the instruction Factoid.  Version 7.0405:05
aldindario, just keep going next05:05
darioi did it05:05
aldindario, now 'write' it05:05
Jucatodthacker: ah for Kubuntu 7.04 it is much simpler. install the package libxine1-ffmpeg05:05
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darioit finded a nes support05:06
dthackerJucato: will that work with kaffiene or will I need to install another player?05:06
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aldindario, ? i did understand u well05:06
Jucatothat will work with kaffeine and amarok05:06
dario*new05:06
Jucatodthacker: both of them use Xine05:06
dariolinux finded a new support :D05:06
dthackerJucato: tnx, installling now05:06
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dariowin i did write05:06
lucahi everyone05:07
aldindthacker, 'sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs'05:07
Jucatodthacker: the only other thing you would need is the w32codecs05:07
Jucato!w32codecs | dthacker05:07
ubotudthacker: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs05:07
aldindario, now exit05:07
aldindario, quit05:07
Jucatoaldin: same thing05:07
lucadoes anyone know how to change the default file browser (not internet) from konqueror to dolphin?05:07
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darioi did05:07
xitehow do i add win entry to grub...ive xp on hdb5 n ubuntu on hdb205:07
Jucatoaldin: on Feisty, libxine-extracodecs = libxine1-ffmpeg05:07
aldinJucato, libxine1-ffmpe and extracodec?05:07
aldinJucato, if u say so...05:07
The_MachineIf i'm having no luck ?connecting to wireless with Knetworkmanager, what else might I try05:07
Jucatoaldin: on Feisty, libxine-extracodecs just installs libxine1-ffmpeg05:07
Jucato(they're phasing out libxine-extracodecs)05:08
aldindario, now typ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda05:08
dariook05:08
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darioone momente05:08
ubuntuquit05:08
liamluca, just dont load knoqueror. load dolphin instead05:08
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aldindario, and sendit on pastebin05:08
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lucaliam I know, but I mean when using alt+f2 :)05:08
Jucatoluca: in Konqueror, Settings menu -> COnfigure KOnqueror -> File Associations -> inode -> directory05:09
dthackerJucato: what repository do I need to enable for libxine-ffmpeg1?05:09
Jucatoset the default app to dolphin05:09
lucajucato: thanks!05:09
Jucatodthacker: nothing. it's in main05:09
Jucatodthacker: and it's libxine1-ffmpeg05:09
Jucatonot libxine-ffmpeg105:09
dariohttp://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19286/05:09
liamuninstall knqueror05:09
aldindario, ?05:09
aldindario, oh ok u were late hehe05:09
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Jucatoliam: um.. don't05:10
roadfishHow can I startup firestarter without a password? I added firestarter to /etc/sudoers. But when I "sudo firestarter" then I get "Xlib: connection refused by server ... No protocol specified". What am I doing wrong?05:10
dariohehe :)05:10
aldindario, good as u see there is only one partiton now05:10
Jucatoroadfish: try using kdesu instead of sudo?05:10
darioyes05:10
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The_MachineDoes anyone know a solution the the "battery not present" problem with laptops?05:10
darioit is true05:10
liamwhy? bad things happen?05:10
aldindario, now do this 'sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1'05:10
roadfishJucato: I tried kdesu but it asks for a password. How can I get "kdesu firestarter" to not prompt me fore a password?05:11
Alarm|ericsson|,  no man i didnt manage, i gave up actually , i thought that i can live with pmount before i will destroy my HD by  trying to fix it and turning it on/off 10000 times05:11
darioi'm doing it05:11
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aldindario, ok, u are almost capmione hehe05:11
weswh-workanyone know of a reference that shows you how to make .deb packages? from source i presume05:11
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Jucatoliam: the kubuntu-desktop metapackage will be removed also, which may cause some upgrading problems later on. also, luca was asking about changing the default file manager, so he/she probably still needs konqueror for other things05:11
dariowhat is a capmione05:11
aldinweswh-work, i know sudo apt.get install checkinstall05:11
liamah right, klkl05:11
soulrider_!compiling | weswh-work05:11
ubotuweswh-work: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:11
aldindario, campione, perdono05:12
darioho05:12
dario:D05:12
dariothank you05:12
Jucato!packaging | weswh-work05:12
ubotuweswh-work: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports05:12
aldindario, np, is it done?05:12
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soulrider_Jucato: if you have a minute later i would like to talk to you a bit about something05:12
darioyes05:12
dariodone05:12
weswh-worksweet05:12
Jucatosoulrider_: I have a minute right now05:12
aldindario, now type 'mkdir /media/data'05:13
roadfishhow can I get "firestarter" to start without prompting me for a password?05:13
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darioit didn't nothing05:13
aldindario, after that type: 'sudo mount /dev/sda1/ /media/data'05:13
Jucatohmm...05:13
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aldindario, it did make directory in /media05:13
soulrider_Jucato: ok, i know youve been int he devel channe a lot, so maybe you know what i should do firt05:14
soulrider_Ju05:14
dthackerI'm attempting to play a commercial DVD with Kaffeine, it says the source can't be read.  what should I try?05:14
soulrider_Jucato: im not sure if the same thing happens here, but here internet acces is slow and expensive05:14
Jucato!dvd | dthacker05:14
darioi did it05:14
ubotudthacker: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs05:14
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darioall05:14
boyeehi all.05:14
aldindario now type df -Th /media/data05:14
Jucatodthacker: I think you need the libdvdcss2 thingy05:14
soulrider_Jucato: i see lots of people that wanna switch but cant because getting packages without internet connection i a ^%#05:14
boyee!nvidia05:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:14
|ericsson|Alarm: I actually did find out that's a kernel bug that causes disconnecting devices05:14
roadfishHow can I startup firestarter without a password? I added firestarter to /etc/sudoers. But when I "sudo firestarter" then I get "Xlib: connection refused by server ... No protocol specified". What am I doing wrong?05:14
Jucato!aptoncd | soulrider_05:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aptoncd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:14
darioi did it05:14
Jucatobah sorry05:15
soulrider_Jucato: i thought maybe we (or someone) should start doign somethin like that05:15
Alarmhonestly i aint got any clue05:15
soulrider_but for KDE05:15
aldindario, what it says?05:15
darionothing05:15
soulrider_i tried aptoncd and it depends on half of gnome...05:15
roadfish(sorry I meant to ask this on another IRC channel)05:15
aldinjesam05:15
aldinpardon05:15
aldindario, ?05:15
Jucatosoulrider_: seen this? http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/05:15
darionothing05:15
soulrider_Jucato: and the options when i tried them werent that good05:15
darioit doesn't say nothing05:15
boyeeany one using the asus a6tc notebook?05:15
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Jucatoah05:15
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|ericsson|Alarm: there are experimental workarounds for fixing it, if you are interested in trying05:16
kaiis there any one here that uses mysql??05:16
soulrider_Jucato: it would be nice if it knew what packages are there by default, or if you could import someones apt database05:16
|ericsson|kai: probably a rather high percentage05:16
darioi write it but nothing05:16
aldindario, lets type 'df -Th'  and send it on pastebin05:16
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The_MachineIf i'm having no luck connecting to wireless with Knetworkmanager, what else might I try?05:16
kaiIm sorry, I meant I need help with someting, Im not sure where Im goin wrong05:17
Jucatosoulrider_: hm... it really sounds like a good idea. but I unfortunately don't have the time, resources, or knowledge to help. but you're right, having an offline/CD source for apps is a much needed feature/project05:17
dariohttp://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19287/05:17
soulrider_Jucato:  who should i talk to to get it going ?05:17
aldindario, here is mine http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19288/05:18
soulrider_i can program in java and im learning c++ but i dont think i could be of much help05:18
kaiI makign a simple table in my script but I keep gettiung this weird error05:18
darioand ? :)05:18
kaisoulrider_: how long you been into java?05:18
Jucatosoulrider_: you can either ask #kubuntu-devel or better yet #ubuntu-motu (and there might be some already similar projects, just not sure)05:18
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Jucatosoulrider_: just tell them that you're interested in a KDE-centric CD or something05:18
soulrider_kai: but more than a year, im not really pro, but i can manage to do things05:18
aldindario, ok, are u sure it finished with formatting sda1?05:18
|ericsson|The_Machine: /j ubuntu-motu05:19
darioyes05:19
vprintsHey guys!05:19
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soulrider_k Jucato i will05:19
Jucatosoulrider_: er... if you are thinking of a kde-centric project that is :)05:19
kaisoulrider_: mean and you are at the spot I been doin java for about a year to05:19
aldindario, lets go again, jsut sec05:19
vprintsGimp refuses to print anything in kubuntu05:19
soulrider_Jucato: it would be nice if it were for KDE, yes05:19
Jucatosoulrider_: I guess the guys at -motu would know better05:19
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kaisoulrider_: Im goin for my cert on the 17th this month05:19
vprintsit's set for lp, but how to set it for cups ?05:19
kaisoulrider_: can you take a look at something for me, you can help me I'm sure05:20
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soulrider_kai:  good luck05:20
soulrider_kai:  sure05:20
LHoTI want to uninstall Beryl. I have no idea how to uninstall stuff in Linux.05:20
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kaisoulrider_: its s imple slq line and Idk where its wring at all05:20
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soulrider_kai: i need to go ahve lunch, be back in a few mins05:21
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kaihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19290/05:21
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kaitake a look at that real quick I know its a simple error It keeps giving me error 1065 @ ')'05:22
darioi closed the conse05:22
darioand reopened it05:22
kaithey have a java channel05:22
kainice05:22
darionow if i write sudo mount /dev/sda1/ /media/data05:22
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darioit says05:22
kaiJucato: how can I join it05:22
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dthackerJucato: that pkg is not found at seveas mirrors05:23
Jucatokai: I'm not sure if there's a java channel actually. I was just suggesting you and soulrider take the discussion somewhere else ;)05:23
dariomount: mount point /media/data does not exist05:23
Jucatodthacker: libdvdcss2?05:23
dthackerYes, I've put his repository in for Feist, and adept is not seeing it.05:24
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dthackerafter update05:24
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aldindario, ar u there05:24
darioyes05:24
darioi'm here05:24
aldindario, here u go http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19291/ just follow that05:24
aldindario, and let me know when ur done05:24
gavin__hiiiii05:24
aldindario, ok, i got disconnected...05:25
aldindario, so i didn know what was last sentence05:25
kaiJucato: sorry I was never able to use PM and Im in dire need of help05:25
dariookok05:25
darioi'm formatting i think05:25
dario:D05:25
Jucatokai: um... soulrider went out to lunch...05:25
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kaiJucato: my problem seem so simple, its for a school prject. my final one to graduat05:25
kaiI know, Im just letting you know05:25
Jucato:)05:26
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darionuevo?05:26
dariocan i change it?05:26
Jucatodthacker: it's there http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/dists/feisty-seveas/all/05:26
|ericsson|How can I purge all the files for xubuntu if I remove it?05:27
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Jucatodthacker: did you carefully follow the instructions? did you add a correct mirror and didn't just simply copy paste the mirror3.ubuntu.com?05:27
darioaldin05:28
darioare yo rhere?05:28
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darioho aldin05:29
dariocan i change nuevo? in something other05:29
aldindario, ?05:29
dario?05:29
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aldindario, is it done?05:29
aldindario, yes u can05:29
dariook ok05:29
darioi'm doing it05:29
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aldindario, ok05:29
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dthackerJucato: yes, I think the mirror was good becuase adept immediately asked for an update.  I think it detected the new repository05:31
darioi have a problem05:31
aldindario, what problem05:31
dariohe cannot create that folder because of permission denied05:31
dthackerJucato: and now I see the package05:31
Jucato:)05: