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| ubotu | New bug: #114547 in malone "Warn about bugs assigned to inactive people" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114547 | 06:26 |
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| carlos | morning | 09:21 |
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| Odd_Bloke | Hey guys, are there any prerequisites for setting up a super-project/project group? The Warwick University GNU/Linux User Group have a couple of projects that are in Launchpad and it'd be cool to be able to group them... | 12:59 |
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| tjs | G'day, is there any way to have launchpad notify an irc bot about a commit? | 01:58 |
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| milian | hi there | 02:27 |
| milian | is there a way to prevent the automatic subscription to bugs in a given project? | 02:27 |
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| Hobbsee | kiko: where's my cluebat? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/114616 | 03:18 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 114616 in webmin "Broken package dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 03:18 |
| kiko | did I promise you a cluebat Hobbsee? :) | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: no. but you should have. one can never have too many cluebats | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: but this is why we need to make ti harder to file bugs :P | 03:25 |
| kiko | yeah | 03:25 |
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| wingo | launchpad's not updating its bzr mirror of my project, anyone know why? | 05:00 |
| salgado | wingo, what's the project? | 05:03 |
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| wingo | salgado: http://code.launchpad.net/guile-gnome | 05:04 |
| kiko | mwhudson, do you know anything about this? | 05:06 |
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| kiko | mwhudson, and also, why is pygtk not importing? | 05:08 |
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| mwhudson | kiko: no, but i can probably find out | 05:25 |
| mwhudson | wingo: can you tell me a branch that should have updated? | 05:27 |
| mwhudson | kiko: at a guess because the current vcs import is from cvs and pygtk is using svn now | 05:29 |
| wingo | mwhudson: for example, https://code.launchpad.net/~andywingo/guile-gnome/atk | 05:30 |
| mwhudson | wingo: not sure instantly, will try to look in a bit | 05:34 |
| wingo | mwhudson: thanks | 05:36 |
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| wingo | I filed a "question" about it, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/6528 | 05:36 |
| kiko | mwhudson, can we update that, you think? | 05:40 |
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| mwhudson | kiko: probably | 06:15 |
| kiko | mwhudson, feeling brave? | 06:20 |
| mwhudson | kiko: not really | 06:21 |
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| mwhudson | wingo: it seems no bzr mirror branches are updating... | 06:33 |
| === mwhudson and ddaa on it | ||
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| beuno | mrevell: ping me when you're around :D | 06:48 |
| mrevell | beuno: I'll pong you instead :) | 06:48 |
| beuno | much better, how's it going? | 06:49 |
| mrevell | beuno: Not bad, thanks :) You? | 06:49 |
| beuno | fighting with a cold, it's winning 2-1 | 06:49 |
| beuno | :D | 06:49 |
| beuno | do you want to play around with the Launchpad Etiquette idea? | 06:50 |
| mrevell | :) | 06:50 |
| mrevell | Yeah. | 06:50 |
| Hobbsee | launchpad etiquette? | 06:51 |
| mrevell | As I said in my email, I think we need something simple and overarching - like the Ubuntu CoC "Ground Rules" section - followed by tool-specifics | 06:51 |
| mrevell | Hobbsee: Yeah, a general introduction to being a good Launchpad citizen | 06:51 |
| mrevell | Hobbsee: Without being patronising. So, something like a CoC for Launchpad. | 06:51 |
| Hobbsee | nice | 06:51 |
| beuno | mrevell: the idea popped into my head after an incident where someone started adding teams to their team | 06:51 |
| mrevell | Hobbsee: I'd love to hear your thoughts on it! | 06:51 |
| beuno | which created some panic | 06:52 |
| mrevell | beuno: Right | 06:52 |
| beuno | (emails flying everywhere) | 06:52 |
| Hobbsee | ah yes, ettiquite on teams being subscribed to bugs, etc, would be good | 06:52 |
| mrevell | beuno: So, to me that would be one of the specific "It's best not to do this" situations. | 06:52 |
| Hobbsee | i'm wondering how much it's needed though - those who dont use common sense dont read teh documentation either | 06:52 |
| beuno | Hobbsee: I was thinking something very short and simple that you could place somewhere when creating a new account (email even) | 06:53 |
| Hobbsee | could be smart | 06:53 |
| mrevell | Hobbsee: It's hard to encourage people to use Launchpad in a way that treats other people with respect, if you can't point at a document that says, "This is a good way to behave" | 06:53 |
| Hobbsee | mrevell: that's a good point | 06:53 |
| beuno | mrevell: that was my second point | 06:53 |
| beuno | :) | 06:53 |
| mrevell | :) | 06:53 |
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| beuno | I think examples work pretty well | 06:54 |
| mrevell | I think the important thing is that it should be clear and simple. If you're new to Launchpad, there is a lot to take in. | 06:54 |
| mrevell | So, it may be easy for someone to accidentally do something that affects other people badly. | 06:54 |
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| mrevell | beuno: What sort of examples are you thinking of? | 06:55 |
| ubotu | New bug: #114651 in launchpad "Question emails don't have in-reply-to/references headers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114651 | 06:55 |
| beuno | mrevell: like when filling a bug, not to add 9 comments after | 06:56 |
| beuno | as in explaining the consecuences of your actions in Launchpad | 06:57 |
| mrevell | beuno: I have a concern. | 06:57 |
| beuno | I'm not sure what the best example is, but it's probably not clear to a lot of people that when something gets changed, a lot of emails get sent | 06:57 |
| beuno | mrevell: scaring users into not using it? :D | 06:58 |
| mrevell | beuno: Yeah, but also | 06:58 |
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| mrevell | beuno: we could end up with a long list of examples, which could make the document unmanageable and become quickly outdated. That's not a reason to throw out using examples, we just need to think of the best way to handle them. | 06:59 |
| mrevell | I think the more general principles that we can establish, the better. | 06:59 |
| beuno | mrevell: absolutely, I think one good example can give you a general idea | 06:59 |
| mrevell | Do you think we could update the interface text to make some of this more obvious? | 07:00 |
| mwhudson | wingo: should be updating again now | 07:01 |
| mwhudson | may take a while | 07:01 |
| wingo | mwhudson: thanks for looking at it | 07:02 |
| beuno | mrevell: absolutely, adding a few words on *what* is going to happen besides the specific action would help a lot | 07:02 |
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| beuno | as in "You're about to asociate a new team, please keep in mind all members from both teams will be emailed about this change" | 07:02 |
| mwhudson | wingo: if it happens again let us know | 07:02 |
| mrevell | beuno: Do you think that could annoy experienced users? It would take up space. Perhaps we could have a "hand-holding" mode, not that I know if that's possible. | 07:03 |
| wingo | will do | 07:04 |
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| beuno | mrevell: well, it depends on where you place the text, I don't think a few words somewhere will annoy anyone | 07:05 |
| beuno | and since launchpad is so big, their might be people who have used it for a long time, but not a specific part, and that might be helpful | 07:06 |
| mwhudson | kiko: ddaa has told me how to re set-up the pygtk import | 07:08 |
| mwhudson | kiko: but i'm too fried to try it now... | 07:08 |
| ddaa | wise decision | 07:08 |
| mrevell | beuno: Okay. Cool. I'm going to seek input from as many different users as possible. In a few minutes, I'll post to the launchpad-users lists to open the discussion. It'd be great if you could reply with your thoughts. | 07:08 |
| beuno | mrevell: sure, I have a couple of specific cases I had thought of scribbled somewhere, I'll keep looking for it and reply in the mailing list | 07:09 |
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| mrevell | beuno: excellent, thanks | 07:10 |
| beuno | mrevell: thanks for the quick feedback :D | 07:10 |
| mrevell | mrevell: No probs. I think this is a really great thing to be doing, so thanks for bringing it up. I'll ping you when I've sent the mail. | 07:11 |
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| mrevell | beuno: Okay, sent :) | 07:14 |
| Rinchen | +1 | 07:16 |
| beuno | mrevell, :D | 07:18 |
| mrevell | Rinchen: Hey, feeling better? | 07:19 |
| Rinchen | mrevell, yes, thanks :-) | 07:19 |
| Rinchen | so good in fact the wife had me working all weekend | 07:19 |
| mrevell | Rinchen: Glad to hear it :) | 07:19 |
| mrevell | Rinchen: Got time for a call at some point this week? | 07:19 |
| Rinchen | yes sir, especially for you | 07:19 |
| mrevell | great, thanks :) | 07:21 |
| mrevell | Okay, I'm afk until tomorrow. Rinchen: I'll mail you. | 07:21 |
| Rinchen | okey dokey | 07:22 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #114657 in launchpad-answers "Cannot add subscribers to skipped list because of bad indentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114657 | 07:45 |
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| sjmorgan | is launchpad.net down? | 08:29 |
| kiko | sjmorgan, working for me | 08:30 |
| sjmorgan | are you sure it isn't cached? | 08:31 |
| kiko | sure | 08:31 |
| kiko | what are you getting? | 08:31 |
| sjmorgan | it redirects me to https:// and then it just can't seem to connect | 08:32 |
| kiko | sjmorgan, are you sure you are able to connect to https sites from where you are? | 08:32 |
| sjmorgan | good point, other https sites don't seem to be working either | 08:33 |
| sjmorgan | how peculiar | 08:33 |
| kiko | "technology" | 08:33 |
| sjmorgan | i'm fairly sure it isn't a pebkac error | 08:34 |
| sjmorgan | no new iptables rules or proxy settings | 08:34 |
| sjmorgan | maybe it's my isp, can't think why though | 08:35 |
| sjmorgan | i can connect using opera, weird | 08:39 |
| sjmorgan | meh | 08:40 |
| sjmorgan | thanks for your help | 08:40 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: one of hte bugs that i filed got milestoned, etc, for 1.1 :D | 08:41 |
| Hobbsee | maybe there is a point in filing bugs on LP | 08:41 |
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| freezone | hi | 10:57 |
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| mpt | Goooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 11:31 |
| flacoste | good morning mpt! | 11:31 |
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| beuno | mornin' mpt | 11:33 |
| mpt | Odd_Bloke, yes, https://launchpad.net/projectgroups | 11:34 |
| Odd_Bloke | mpt: Thanks. | 11:34 |
| mpt | oh, that page is forbidden, odd | 11:35 |
| mpt | so | 11:35 |
| mpt | what I suggest | 11:35 |
| Odd_Bloke | mpt: Heh, so it is. | 11:35 |
| mpt | is going to https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | 11:35 |
| thumper | morning | 11:35 |
| mpt | after you've registered your individual projects | 11:35 |
| mpt | and make a request that lists the projects you want to group together, and what you want the group to be called | 11:36 |
| mpt | then a Launchpad admin can set it up for you | 11:36 |
| Odd_Bloke | mpt: OK, cheers. | 11:37 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #114705 in launchpad "Security vulnerability checbox too easy to hit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114705 | 12:00 |
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