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clefiaWhy do I lose my Panels once in a while after restarting Xubuntu feisty?12:38
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epsihi :)12:42
epsianyone awake ?12:42
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underdog5004it's midday here12:44
epsilol k12:44
underdog5004(pacific coast, U.S.)12:44
epsiits 1 o clock @night in germany ,d12:44
epsino am^12:44
epsik ive got 1 question: is there any possibility to make kubuntu run a command i define , to do on shutdown?12:45
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runleveltenDo you want it to happen when KDE shuts down?12:45
epsihm this includes an X restart?12:46
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epsieh but..it doesnt matter^12:46
LPncan some one help me i try to install kubuntu with the alt install and it says MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC (black screen of death).12:46
elvirolohi all12:46
epsiwhen KDE shuts down it should execute the command12:46
epsithat would be great ,yes.12:46
elvirolohow do i get the ipw3945 wifi chipset to work under kubuntu feisty?12:47
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epsirunlevelten: kde shutdown is perfect :)12:48
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clefiaWhy do I lose my Panels once in a while after restarting Xubuntu feisty? I can't start 'panel manager'12:50
runleveltenOh sorry12:50
runleveltenput the scripts in your home folder/.kde/shutdown/12:51
runleveltenYou can drop app shortcuts in there just as well :)12:51
epsiah nice :D12:51
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epsithere is no folder shutdown12:52
epsishall i create it?12:52
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Angeluscan someone please help me with the following errors ? http://rafb.net/p/A6NWtK16.html12:56
epsirunlevelten:  shall i create the folder?12:57
LPncan some one help me i try to install kubuntu with the alt install and it says MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC (black screen of death).12:59
LPn[00:46]  <elvirolo> hi all12:59
LPncan some one help me i try to install kubuntu with the alt install and it says MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC (black screen of death).12:59
LPn[00:46]  <elvirolo> hi all12:59
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Angeluscan someone please help me with the following errors ? http://rafb.net/p/A6NWtK16.html12:59
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LPni try to install kubuntu with the alt install and it says MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC (black screen of death). can some one help me plz?12:59
Schuenemannhey, I'm getting a very long black screen between the boot menu and X initialization. What could be that?12:59
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epsicool thx runlevelten ;D01:01
epsihope it works :P01:01
epsicya then01:01
runleveltennp - have fun :)01:01
epsiwatching the bourne supremacy ;D01:01
epsias a refresh for the upcoming 3rd part01:01
Angelusrunlevelten: can you help me now ? lol01:01
drewcipherepsi: lol I have it on too.  better than I remember it being.01:02
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eljefei think MCE installed compiz or metacity for my window manager on Feisty, but I want it back to KWin; can anyone help me?01:11
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malqosi have problem with gtkpod,i conect my ipod, add music and save on  the end, disconect ipod and when i try to play so music a dont have anyting on ipod01:14
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eljefedo you have no music, or it doesn't even show the ipod software?01:14
malqosi dont have no file,  my ipod is empty01:15
runleveltenSomebody rang?01:15
malqosbut when i connect it to computer01:15
malqosgtkpod see the music01:15
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toastjemand deutschsprachiges da der eine idee zu einem problem bei mir htte?01:16
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runleveltenAngelus: You appear to be missing the ncurses development foo.01:16
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Schuenemannhey, I'm getting a very long black screen between the boot menu and X initialization. What could be that?01:19
runleveltenAngelus: so install an appropriate libncurses dev package for your system :)01:19
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eljefedoes the iPod start?01:21
malqoseljefe are you there?01:21
eljefeyes i am, malqos01:21
malqosit starts01:22
malqosi load it to gtkpod01:22
malqosand i have music01:22
U238Willyhello!..(call me Willy) let's see.. i was installing packages through adept this afternoon.. and they exploded.. well adept cancelled.. didn't finish installing packages that were in queue.. and now.. when adept runs, it says that another 'instance' of adept or apt-get is still running.. (after a warm boot, i assure you they're not) so.. any ideas how to remove the exploded packages.. and reset my adept? any help would be greatly appreciat01:22
U238Willyed! :)01:22
eljefewhen you put the music 'on the iPod', maybe its only going into a queue, and you have to still click [Transfer]  or something?01:22
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eljefeU238Willy: at a command prompt/Terminal, type: sudo apt-get install -f01:23
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eljefethat will force the packages to install or clear, depending on whats best for the system01:23
U238WillyI shall try..01:24
U238Willyand I thank you.. kind sir01:24
eljefeof course01:24
malqosi will try in banshee01:24
eljefei got a ton of Windows help today, so i feel inclined to give back tonight :)01:24
malqosi have synchronizing so it may be good01:24
eljefemalqos: ok.  i have only used amarok but it works for me.01:25
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U238Willydpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem..01:26
U238Willysound good?01:26
U238WillyI'm running kubuntu (obviously? right?) 7.04 fiesty fawn.. i was trying to install an IRC bot package.. and the KVIRC2 packages01:27
U238Willyas i run a chan on chatspike.. and am constantly look for new bot packages or.. irc clients01:27
eljefeso why did you interrupt it?01:27
U238Willyi didn't01:27
U238Willyit stopped midway01:27
malqosi dont know what with dpkg but in banshee everything is great01:27
malqosso thanks a lot01:28
eljefeit stopped itself?01:28
U238Willyso i asked to see the 'details'01:28
U238Willywhere a CLI was there01:28
U238Willyasking for the root information01:28
eljefemalqos: yep not a problem mate.  pass help along ;)01:28
U238Willy(which made me nervous)01:28
U238Willybut.. i said.. ok.. and entered it01:28
U238Willyat which point..01:28
U238Willyit exited..01:28
eljefebut if you're installing, its going to have to ask at some point... and maybe it creates a 'bot user' ?? no idea why...01:28
U238Willyand.. as you can see..01:28
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eljefehmm thats odd01:29
U238Willymost everything else runs01:29
U238Willywith ipd01:29
eljefewas it a kubuntu package, or from the web?01:29
U238Willyit was using adept01:29
eljefestrange.  maybe just a crash tho.01:29
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U238Willythough i have expanded the repositories to capture it 'all' but no outside repositories.. like FM or anything.01:29
eljefewhats FM?01:30
AzzcoWhy is SVG images allways a bit unaligned to the right?01:30
NickPrestaAzzco, what do you mean?01:30
U238Willysorry.. abbreviation for Freshmeat01:30
eljefeah sure01:30
eljefethey have ubuntu packages?01:30
U238Willyhmm.. dunno01:30
eljefedo you know, are they quality?01:31
U238Willyi've been so happy with what i've found so far..01:31
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eljefeyeah for sure, esp with Feisty01:31
AzzcoNickPresta: Everytime I try to preview a svg image a part on the right side is not showing up, same if I try to add one to a document or anything01:31
U238Willythat i haven't started looking for outside repositories.01:31
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eljefei've only added trevino's for the KDEnlive video editor01:31
U238Willya video editor?01:31
U238Willylemme try the dpkg first..01:32
NickPrestaAzzco, in what applications?01:32
eljefeoh, also one to install LinuxMCE but that was a pain so i gave up, but it ate my windowmanager!  i want kwm back!01:32
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Azzcokonqueror and koffice01:32
NickPrestaAzzco, does it happen with all SVG images or just specific images?01:32
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arihi. i just reinstalled kubuntu edgy (it was the only install cd i had) on my computer and i upgraded to feisty and i wanted to know how to get the codecs to play mp3s. i've tried to install them manually via a terminal but it doesn't work and when i run amarok it tells me i can't read mp3s and then it shuts down. is that normal ?01:32
NickPrestaAzzco, I don't know what to tell you. I'm viewing an SVG image in Konqueror right now. It appears fine. Which version of KDE are you running?01:33
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AzzcoNickPresta: 3.5.6 o.O Thought it was higher01:33
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U238Willyit seem the 'blootbot'01:33
U238Willyis the main 'issue'01:33
U238Willydpkg forced the rest01:33
U238Willyi suppose01:33
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NickPrestaAzzco, the only thing I can suggest is upgrading to 3.5.7. I don't know if that will fix it for sure though.01:34
U238Willyback at the terminal.. i think if i can get adept to work..01:34
U238WillyI'm going to uninstall the packages that were in queue01:34
U238Willyand just reinstall01:34
AzzcoNickPresta: Should I install the kde package or will that break kubuntu-desktop?01:34
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NickPrestaAzzco, unless you have a reason not to do a "full upgrade", I think you should add the 3.5.7 repo and just upgrade all K apps. http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php01:35
AzzcoAhh okay thanks :)01:36
intelikeyU238Willy in konsole;   sudo dpkg -a --configure && sudo aptget install <packagename>                   inturpreting <> of course.   and if it errors you'll see why.01:36
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toasti need a little bit help ... i have an Gforce Grafic Card ... i have installed the nvidia-glx package then reconfig the xseerver ... and restart the xserver ... but only black screen ... reconfig the xserver to the vesa driver ... downloading a new driver from the nvidia page, installed this new driver ... xserver reconfig ... all ready ... reboot ... now ... only black screen ... since that moment ... only vesa driver or black screen ... can01:37
toastsomeone help me? sry for the bad english ... i'm from germany ;)01:37
intelikeyexcuse me.  apt-get01:37
eljefe!de |toast01:37
ubotutoast: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:37
intelikeytoast /join #kubuntu-de01:37
Arwentoast, there is a German channel you know01:37
eljefetoast: or english ;)01:38
U238Willyoh um01:39
toast@#kubuntu-de is no one who can help .... thats the reason i try it here ;)01:39
U238Willyi just read what intelikey said01:39
Schuenemannhey, I'm getting a very long black screen between the boot menu and X initialization. What could be that?01:40
U238Willywell.. i ran dpkg as it and you all have said....01:40
U238Willyand it forced it's way through..01:40
U238Willyi'm currently in adept..01:40
U238Willywithout it saying that another instance is running.01:40
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U238Willyand i'm removing the packages.. (to the best of my knowledge..) that were in that particular update..01:41
U238Willyi'll use apt-get for the blootbot..01:41
U238Willyas it seems to need some handholding01:41
U238Willybut.. the KVIRC client01:41
intelikeyummm hmmm01:42
U238Willyi'll just pickup through adept..01:42
U238Willythank you all..01:42
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U238Willyon the nvidia-glx issue.. i distinctly remember that two different lines.. maybe even three needed to be changed int xorg.conf01:43
U238Willyi had a laptop that was running..01:43
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U238Willyedgy eft01:43
U238Willyand i remember that alittle kate with xorg.conf.. and some changes in the driver lines.. were required..01:44
posingaspopularhey all, im trying to install pidgin in kubuntu feisty. right now i have a pidin -2.1.1.tar.bz2 file in my computer, but what do i do after that01:44
Arwenposingaspopular, um...01:44
posingaspopulartar -xv (file)01:44
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:44
posingaspopulargot it thanks01:45
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Arwenif you don't know how to do this, I seriously recommend that you don't try01:45
Arwenif nothing else, it'll make upgrading to gutsy more difficult01:45
intelikeyArwen he's gone.01:46
U238Willysoo.. it's fiesty fawn.. there's a gutsy now?01:46
Arwenwhy doesn't anyone ever listen01:46
NickPrestaand Pidgin 2.1.1 is in the repos now anyways01:46
ArwenU238Willy, it's in pre-release01:46
ArwenAlpha 501:46
intelikeyU238Willy not yet...01:46
U238Willyand kde 4? is in pre-release still yes?01:47
ArwenKDE4 is beta01:47
eljefenot really sure what it holds, however... what are some big changes in gutsy?01:47
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Arweneljefe, no version of Ubuntu really has any big changes. It's mostly just newer packages.01:47
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eljefei'm just looking for kde 3.5.7 and kdenlive native packages!01:47
U238Willyi've been a KDE fan.. since.. Suse 9.301:47
eljefeArwen: i thought dapper to feisty had some pretty big changes01:48
Arweneljefe, 3.5.7 has been backported - kubuntu.org01:48
U238Willythen moved to ubuntu01:48
intelikeyeljefe new bugs,  new user configuration issues,  and some different eyecandy01:48
eljefei know, but it *always* messes with my computer.  i pass.01:48
AzzcoWell and the artwork01:48
reldruhcan anybody point me in the direction of an easy-to-use video editing program? All I want to do is put together a bunch of pictures (stop-motion style). I tried using Cinelerra but it was too confusing.01:48
eljefeintelikey: lol, gives me something to bug report about!01:48
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U238Willywould you mention where you got your video editor?01:49
eljefeU238Willy: yeah?  i love the KDE! ;)  I started with SuSE 8.2 but once I wend debian, i never went back01:49
U238Willyeljefe, same here..01:49
eljefeyeah one minute... problem is, right now i cannot export any of the video clips I have! :(01:49
eljefeone moment01:49
BluesKajeljefe, actually i had a prob with previous KDE upgrades , but this was the least troublesome so far01:50
eljefeBluesKaj: yeah?  hm... well i still think i am going to wait, it just makes gutsy have one more 'gotta have it's01:50
drewcipherreldruh: have you tried avidemux?01:51
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BluesKajhehe, gutsy ...not toostable yet01:51
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reldruhdrewcipher: not yet, is that easy to use?01:51
[cellfrog] Hi01:51
eljefeU238Willy: here is the program's page http://www.kdenlive.org/ and here is the repository info http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/feisty/3v1n0/index.html01:51
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U238Willybtw.. that may help reldruh's question01:52
eljefeintelikey: wheres the fun in that?01:52
drewcipherreldruh:  I have found it super easy so far but I have mainly used it to pull snippets out of movies vs. doing what you're doing.01:52
intelikeyeljefe in decyphering the statement ?  :)01:52
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reldruhI'm installing avidemux now. Thanks :-)01:52
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eljefedrewcipher: you like avidemux?  i never understood what i was supposed to do with it.01:53
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eljefeis it an editor?01:53
U238Willyok.. i'm gonna lurk now.. but thank you all again.. all seems to work as it should (*fingers crossed*.. nah.. i'll just come out of lurk mode)01:53
eljefelol cool01:53
drewciphereljefe:  I am really low-res on my movies so it has worked great.  no hard core use.01:54
eljefecan anyone tell me how to disable whatever window manager i have now and make KDE use KDM again?01:54
eljefedrewcipher: is there a timeline anywhere?01:54
intelikeyeljefe   cat ~/.wmrc01:54
eljefek one moment01:55
eljefe No such file or directory01:55
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drewciphereljefe:  my timeline shows right in the UI.01:55
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eljefedrewcipher: its been a year or something, but i don't recall it being anything i 'got'01:55
intelikeyeljefe hmmm   cat ~/.xsession     ?01:55
[cellfrog] Bye.01:55
eljefei tried a few times, maybe i should be looking anew01:56
eljefeintelikey: only .xsession-errors :(01:56
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intelikeyeljefe then it's something in kde   check in  kcontrol and see if there's a setting01:57
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eljefeintelikey: it happened when i added the LinuxMCE repos, and then installed that.  Which I don't use, but its there.01:58
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eljefemy window decorations look sweet! from before I installed MCE.  But they're not in use, and I don't see anyything in kcontrol01:59
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intelikeyhehhe ooops i've locked my self out.    be back after i pick the lock...   ;S02:01
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andresjelijefe, the same thing happened to me when I tried to install LinuxMCE... it screwed many things up... so I just reinstalled Kubuntu. but I'm sure there's a setting you can change, what I know is that it is not in your /home/ folders (might be in /etc/)02:02
intelikeythat was interesting...02:02
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intelikeyfor Q in kwin kdm kubuntu ;do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow $Q ;done02:04
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intelikeyor just    sudo apt-get -f --reinstall install kwin02:05
intelikeyboth/either could work.02:05
andresjthat's a better way... hadn't think of that.02:06
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Schuenemannhow can I check what framebuffer/text mode kubuntu is using?02:07
intelikeycan anyone tell me if this is k6 or k7   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3914402:07
Angelushow can i creat initrd img for a custome kernel?02:08
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intelikeyAngelus if i were using a custome kernel it wouldn't need an init*.img02:08
intelikeyAngelus none the less.   mkinitramfs -o <out_file.name> <version>02:09
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Angelusintelikey: cause when i booted to custom kernel it gave ne some VFS error the cant load the root partition cause of some unrecocnized something02:10
intelikeyAngelus only means that either disk or fs support aren't compiled into that kernel.02:11
Angeluswhere am i gonna find the disk or fs support?02:11
Angelusany idea?02:11
intelikeyif the device is supported and the fs is supported and the kernel boot line is correct   no initramfs is needed02:11
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intelikeyAngelus if you compiled the kernel,  then you are the one responsable for the compile options.....02:12
tazgodx_where do i go to get help with writing a small script?02:12
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intelikeytazgodx_ right here.02:12
Angelusintelikey: no,  i used make oldconfig02:12
Angelusso it uses kubuntus config02:12
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Angelusand answered only the new questions02:12
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intelikeyAngelus you are the one that issued that command so you are still the one to blame for it not having the correct driver....02:13
tazgodx_ok, well my mom sent me a zip file with a ton of folders, all of which have 1 file in each, is there a script i can write to move all those files into the main dir?02:13
Angelusso intelikey i shouldnt use kubuntu's config for a custom kernel and build the options from scratch?02:14
intelikeytazgodx_ sure.  the command would look something like this;    find /base/path/ -type f -exec cp '{}' /new/dir \;     <<<< you want to inturpret  /base/path/   and /new/dir   the rest is verbatom02:16
intelikeyAngelus or use the command  i showed you to build an initramfs image file.02:16
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intelikeypick your take.02:16
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Angelusso if i build the initramfs it should load good?02:16
intelikeyin theory.    but not always in practice02:16
intelikeyi've had to rebuild several...02:16
Angelusi see02:17
tazgodx_thanks, ill try that now02:17
Angelusi'll give it a try02:17
Angelusthanks intelikey :)02:17
Angelusah btw, in case i should start the kernel from scratch, can you tell me which is best to use if modules or built-in ?02:17
Schuenemannhow do I find out the framebuffer/text mode? I changed my graphic card and now I can't see any output between boot and X initialization02:18
intelikeytazgodx_ note that only copies them   incase anything goes wrong...   one could use  the move command  "mv"  rather than the copy command "cp"  \02:18
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tazgodx_ok, ill do the move command, just cause i have it in my e-mail still02:18
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intelikeyAngelus you want builtin for only the things you know you need to get booted.  all else as modules.02:19
Angelusok thanks :D02:19
intelikeyAngelus i.e. ide-disk ext2/3     is all i would need built in.02:20
intelikeywell  and cramfs and the normal things the kernel has to have....   but that's a given02:20
intelikeyyes only02:21
tazgodx_sweet, works great! thanks02:21
Angelusi used to build everything build-in nearly02:21
intelikeyi doubt that02:21
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intelikeyyour kernel will not load if you do that.   it will be too big to fit in ram.02:22
Angeluson gentoo02:22
Angelusi have 1GB ram O_o02:22
intelikeyoperative word.   everything02:22
Angelusi didnt say everything02:22
Angelusi said 'nearly'02:22
Angelusmost of the things02:22
intelikey<Angelus> i used to build everything build-in nearly02:22
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Angeluslast word02:22
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intelikeyso nearly everything means less than one percent actually ???02:23
intelikeySchuenemann if there is a vga= in the kernel line that's it.02:24
Schuenemannintelikey, where?02:24
intelikey /boot/grub/menu.lst02:25
Schuenemannthis? kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=43e57296-0c2c-4387-92ff-7db54b0354d6 ro quiet splash02:25
intelikeythat's where you would specify it.    yes.02:25
intelikeyand seeing that it's not there.   i'll go out on a limb and say it's in the initramfs.img-2.6.20-16-generic02:26
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Schuenemannwhat do I do? I never changed anything there, just changed graphic card02:26
intelikeyi think i wrote a script for editing those once02:26
intelikeySchuenemann rebuild it.02:27
ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork02:27
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SchuenemannI'm not sure you got the problem: I have a blank screen during boot02:27
intelikeyAngelus that link might help with your Q also  ^02:27
intelikeySchuenemann i'm sure i got it.02:28
intelikeycan i be sure enough for both of us ???02:28
Schuenemannjust a minute, I need to reboot, brb02:29
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Schuenemannintelikey, changing it to nosplash solved02:31
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intelikeyyeah.   i though you wanted the eyecandy...    i could have told you nosplash vga=normal02:32
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Schuenemannyeah, I suspected you didn't get it when you said artwork :-)02:33
intelikeyand everyone else would have said  'NO DON'T DO THAT, IT'S UGLY'02:33
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Schuenemannugly is having a blank screen during boot02:33
intelikeySchuenemann i got it.   just expected you wanted it fixed,  not dismissed02:34
Schuenemannwhat do you mean?02:34
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intelikeynothing.  never mind.02:34
intelikeyi'll be back in a few.02:34
Schuenemannisn't it fixed now?02:34
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Daisuke_Laptopstill can't figure out why i have no direct rendering02:54
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aaron ok. so i have a linux firewall running iptables. I sometimes download torrents on port 49xxx. When I do, en open this port on my firewall, and when my torrent is done, I close it back up. using iptraf, i see connections every now and then to that port, even though it's closed.... is this because the torrent tracker announces to the other clients to connect to me on that port?02:56
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kgxhas anyone use workrave on Windows XP? it really slows down my computer for around 10 seconds every hour or so...quite annoying. anyone knows a fix?03:07
NickPrestakgx, you're asking if we know a fix for workrave as it slows down your computer in Win XP?03:08
Daisuke_Laptop!windows | kgx03:08
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ubotukgx: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents03:08
namolI'd remove windows03:09
Schuenemann!br | ubuntu__03:09
namolsounds like the problem to me03:09
ubotuubuntu__: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.03:09
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Daisuke_Laptopkgx: in other words, we don't help with windows problems, sorry.03:09
kgxNickPresta: lol :p meh..i hate windows sometimes...03:09
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namoltype /join #ubuntu-br03:10
Daisuke_Laptopsometimes?  try all the time03:10
Daisuke_Laptopthat's why we don't use it (for the most part)03:10
namolI use both actually, I'm pulling down the new MoH:Airborne game03:10
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zgmf-x20ahey can someone please help me here.  first, the desktop cd for kubuntu, 6.10, this is the live cd correct?03:10
Schuenemannit is both03:10
Schuenemannbut there is version 7.04 there03:11
kgxyeah, its just that i've started some windows development work and *have* to use windows03:11
Schuenemannavailable to download, I mean03:11
Schuenemannkgx, using (yuck) .NET?03:11
zgmf-x20ayes it is, but 6.10 is more stable.  ok, so, how do i get into the live cd when it is at the prompt ubuntu@ubuntu???03:11
namolkgx: what are you developing?03:11
Schuenemannzgmf-x20a, 7.04 is stable03:12
kgxnamol: c# software03:12
kgxcheck out what i got from ##windows:03:12
kgxhas anyone use workrave on Windows XP? it really slows down my computer for around 10 seconds every hour or so...quite annoying. anyone knows a fix?03:12
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kgxoops, hand on03:12
Daisuke_Laptop6.10 is more stable? what are you smoking?03:12
kgx[13:11]  <kgx> has anyone use workrave on Windows XP? it really slows down my computer for around 10 seconds every hour or so...quite annoying. anyone knows a fix?03:12
kgx[13:11]  <ppj> No idea what Workrave is03:12
kgx[13:11]  <-- fuzzybunny has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)).03:12
kgx[13:11]  <elite101> me either03:12
kgx[13:11]  <SomeIdiot> sounds like something that might deliberately slow a computer down heh03:12
kgxlol :D03:12
posingaspopularzgmf-x20a: what site are you on? can i get a link03:12
zgmf-x20aSchuenemann: lol ok, well i will try that cd later then, but im trying my first attempt at vist and kubuntu dual boot03:12
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:12
Schuenemann!pastebin | kgx03:12
ubotukgx: please see above03:12
Daisuke_Laptopzgmf-x20a: vista too?03:13
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zgmf-x20ayes, vista and 6.10. dual boot03:13
namolinstall vista first03:13
zgmf-x20ai did03:13
namolthen kubuntu03:13
zgmf-x20aand i did proper partions03:13
namolyou'll be fine03:13
namoleven a monkey can do it03:13
zgmf-x20ano, the problem is, how do i get past ubuntu@ubuntu prompt?03:13
Daisuke_Laptopapparently not, we shaved apes make the easiest things difficult.03:13
Daisuke_Laptopuh...  did you install the server edition?\03:14
zgmf-x20aand namol it is not like an xp dual boot03:14
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ubuntu__speaks in Portuguese?03:14
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zgmf-x20afatal error.  no screens found03:15
namolsounds like a X11 problem03:15
zgmf-x20ayes it does03:15
namolprobably a config problem03:15
zgmf-x20acrap i forget the code, let me try and ring that up again03:15
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zgmf-x20ai think i have to change it to vesa03:15
zgmf-x20aCRAP thats why 7.04 didnt work then!03:16
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zgmf-x20alol, ok brb03:16
ubuntu__ speaks in Portuguese?03:16
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elite101kgx, what?03:18
elite101why did u paste from windows channel to linux o_0?03:18
aaronanyone know the default user/pass for the ntop package?03:18
Schuenemannubuntu__, /join #ubuntu-br03:18
kgxelite101: reponse to something i talked about before..no need to get excited ;)03:18
elite101:) no worry then03:21
Schuenemannescreve /join #ubuntu-br03:22
zgmf-x20anow to find out if i did the partians proper for damned vista03:25
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zgmf-x20ai cant believe i cant use xp anymore for my dual boot, so irritating!03:26
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Schuenemanndude, vista = viruses intruders spyware trojan adware03:26
BiovoreXP/Vista boot in the same fasion..03:27
Biovorechainload +103:27
[pyro] hey guys, im currently logged into my dad's kubuntu box via SSH and im trying to launch Kopete for him remotely. Can anyone remember the switch's i need to use so it will bind to his DISPLAY being :0 ?03:27
Biovore[pyro] : um..  you logged in as his user?03:28
[pyro] yep03:28
Biovoreyou can try export DISPLAY=:0.0  then run kopete03:28
BiovoreNot sure if that will work..03:28
[pyro] cool ill give it a go03:28
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Berzerkerquestion, maybe someone knows03:29
BiovoreBut what your asking is possible.. or you can setup a remote desktop connection..03:29
Berzerkerhow do I reorder groups in kopete03:29
[pyro] Biovore: yep that worked, cheers :)03:29
Biovore[pyro] : ok cool.. :-)03:29
[pyro] i knew it could be done, just couldnt remember what it was i needed to do to get it working03:29
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RobNycanyone here has kickoff ?03:30
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233103:30
flaccid!find kickoff03:30
Berzerkerwhat does it do?03:30
ubotuPackage/file kickoff does not exist in feisty03:30
RobNyci found this on kde-look http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kickoff-qt+on++Kubuntu+7.04?content=5586403:30
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BiovoreNo.. but I use something simular called tastymenu03:31
Biovorethey have debs.. just download and install03:31
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RobNycBiovore, can i see your screenie03:31
Berzerkerhow does one go about installing kickoff?03:32
BiovoreI don't have a screenie of it.. I had to build it for my box..03:32
flaccidcan someone point me to the right deb for kickoff... seems a bit badly organised/packaged03:32
zgmf-x20anamol: you still here?03:32
radioaktivstormwhy is it that when i use the arrow keys to go through a directory when opening a file some things are skipped?03:32
Biovorekickoff looks like its been packaged in a .deb for you..03:32
Daisuke_Laptopkickoff is well packaged on kde-look.org03:32
Daisuke_Laptopworks great03:32
Biovorelooks like you need to install the lib first then install the package..03:32
flaccidBiovore: URL please03:33
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_michaelhello I was wondering if there is a way to launch an app from virtual desktop 1 (command line) and have it appear on virtual desktop 2 any suggestions?03:33
Biovoreflaccid: for tastymenu?03:33
zgmf-x20aguess not.  aight, anyone here do a vista and kubuntu dual boot recently?03:33
flaccidkickoff or tastymenu im up to try either/or03:33
RobNychow does tastymenu look03:33
Biovorethere 1.0 of tasty menu03:34
RobNycah lets see03:34
RobNyci already have that03:34
zgmf-x20aanyone here do a vista and kubuntu dual boot recently?03:34
RobNycim using Linux MINT KDE they use something similar03:34
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Biovorezgmf-x20a: I have it working..03:35
zgmf-x20anice, ok, quick question Biovore03:36
[pyro] Biovore: haha my dad's whinging because i launched kopete while he was watching a movie03:36
zgmf-x20aim doing it this way:  http://www.commonmancomputing.com/y/Learn/DualBootVistaandLinux/tabid/62/Default.aspx03:36
[pyro] "HTF did this just open itself? i closed it!!"03:36
zgmf-x20ahas anything changed since vista was beta?03:36
Biovore^ tastymenu on my box here..03:36
Biovorewell it the same way to boot xp.. same thing basicly..03:37
Biovorechainload +103:37
zgmf-x20aBiovore: and btw, wtf, why is it 10gb!?!?!?  argh i wish i could use xp again03:37
Biovoreon the partion..03:37
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zgmf-x20ai was like, wtf!?03:38
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Biovorewhat nic?03:38
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Biovorethey do exists..03:38
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Biovore10gb network interface cards03:38
zgmf-x20alol, no the install, was 10gb of hd space03:38
Biovorefor vista?03:38
Biovoremust be premium..03:39
zgmf-x20ao, yah, home premium03:39
Biovorewas only 4 here..03:39
zgmf-x20ait came with the laptop03:39
Biovoremust be all the extra spyware..03:39
Biovoreit is windows afterall :-)03:39
zgmf-x20abut i cant use xp, cause i ordered the new WD scorpio 250gb drive and windows xp install cds cannot recognize it03:39
Biovoreerr.. there serial ata..03:40
Biovorethey work with XP03:40
zgmf-x20alol.... not a big fan of windows at all, but need it for games03:40
Biovoreyou just have an old xp disk.. so you need to have that drivers floppy thing..03:40
Biovoresata didn't get supported untill SP203:40
zgmf-x20ayah it is sata, wait whats this drivers floppy thing!?03:40
zgmf-x20ait is an sp2 disk03:40
Biovorewell most mobo came with a floppy03:41
zgmf-x20aerm.... its a laptop though, so no floppy drive03:41
Arwenzgmf-x20a, get a USB drive.03:41
zgmf-x20aits the asus f3sv-a103:41
BiovoreXP installer can't read a USB disk for installing drivers from the installer03:41
Biovoreprobably use a USB floppy03:41
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Schuenemannin other words, XP is junk03:42
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zgmf-x20aa floppy drive to usb??  yah i MUCH! prefer xp or vista, just look at these results!  vista is crap!! http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/29/xp-vs-vista/03:43
Schuenemannyeah, me too... but that isn't a great thing, you know03:43
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Biovoreyeah..  but MS is pulling the old marking gag..  there only releasing Directx 10 on vista..03:43
zgmf-x20aBiovore: check outthat posting03:43
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BiovoreI have seen it once..03:43
zgmf-x20aBiovore: i know, hat is such bs too03:43
Biovorebut no fear.. because hackers have made it work on XP :-P03:44
Daisuke_Laptopvista's a waste of money, but we already know that, this is #kubuntu :D03:44
zgmf-x20ayah it wont be long before they make it backwards compatible03:44
Biovoreand probably not for far in the furture.. wine will do DirectX 1003:44
SchuenemannDaisuke_Laptop, actually I can have a free copy, but it's junk anyway03:44
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Biovorenative linux port for that one as well.. think bioshock looks nice.. you havn't seen crud yet..03:45
Daisuke_LaptopSchuenemann: even for free it's roo expensive03:45
Daisuke_Laptopupkeep cost03:45
Arwenzgmf-x20a, on those benchmarks, properly multi-threaded apps ran faster on Vista.03:45
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zgmf-x20aso anyways, hey biovare, let me get this straight, you installed vista on your whole drive, without partioning, then installed kubuntu afterwards and manual edit the partians, and it worked!?03:45
Arwenthink again.03:45
Schuenemannyeah, I would waste a dvd media too03:45
Biovorezgmf-x20a: I have done it that way..03:46
Daisuke_LaptopArwen: since when are apps properly multi-threaded?03:46
zgmf-x20alol, yah but look at thos encoding results, they take much longer, those are big %'s03:46
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Biovorezgmf-x20a: http://www.biovore.net/Fileserver/menu.lst  <-- my menu.lst file for grub on my box.. your may very...03:46
Biovoredual boots vista and linux03:47
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zgmf-x20aBiovore: really!?  so crap im going thru all this damn crap on this link here for nothing!?!!?!?!?  ARGH! http://www.commonmancomputing.com/y/Learn/DualBootVistaandLinux/tabid/62/Default.aspx03:48
Biovoreyeah.. just need to update the menu.lst file.. thats it..03:48
Biovorezgmf-x20a: just add that bold stuff at the end of the link to your menu.lst file..03:49
Biovoreand select vista..03:49
Biovoreshould work..03:49
zgmf-x20aafter installing it the same way as b4 with xp right?03:49
Biovorethe boot method is the same.. chainload +103:49
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Biovorebasicly grub just boot the windows bootloader..03:50
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zgmf-x20awoahhhhh.....  the way i did things here, i think i somehow managed to make it so i dont need to edit the menu list..... wtf???  one sec03:52
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zgmf-x20ai did!?!?!!??!?!?03:54
zgmf-x20aTHATS AWESOME!!!03:54
flaccidno shouting please03:55
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Berzerkerhow would I rearrange groups in kopete03:55
zgmf-x20aBiovore: guy, i found a different way to do it so you dont have to edit anything man03:55
zgmf-x20ait jsut... does it03:55
Biovoreok cool..  some program you run.. something has to update menu.lst..03:56
flaccidupdate-grub ?03:56
zgmf-x20ahonestly, i just was using the xp vista install disk, and the live cd for 6.10 for kubuntu03:56
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zgmf-x20aand the laptop is NOT connected to the net or anything03:57
Biovoreyeah... if you have windows installed when you install linux.. it should add windows to the menu.lst automaticly..03:57
zgmf-x20aooooooooooh ok ok, thats what happened then.  i partianed with vista and left a seperate partian for what i would use for kubuntu.  then live cd installed to that partian.03:58
zgmf-x20aunfortunatley i have to do everything all over again bc i didnt realize vista took up 10gb,,,,,,03:59
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zgmf-x20ahow irritating....03:59
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Biovorewell if you install windows again.. you can reinstall grub from windows.. or just use the cd and do a rescue..04:00
Biovorewon't have to reinstall linux..04:00
zgmf-x20atrue i can do that04:01
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zgmf-x20ahey Biovore i have a question what is this 5.80 gb used for when installling vista?04:01
Biovoreno clue.. as Microsoft..  probably graphics and bloat..04:02
zgmf-x20aactually im going to experiement and delete it, change it to fat32 and see if it can be utilized to swap data between both sides04:03
zgmf-x20ahere goes04:03
Biovore5.8 GB with vista gets you a OS with basicly nothing else..   5GB on kubuntu get you an OS and tons of apps..04:03
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Biovorethat works good.. :-)04:03
Berzerkerhow would I rearrange groups in kopete?04:03
Biovoreext2fsd on windows allows windows to work with ext3 filesystems..04:03
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zgmf-x20await, that 5.8gb, is that kubuntu from the other side?04:03
Biovoreno clue.. I never do that..04:03
NickPrestaBiovore, considering a LiveCD image @ ~700MB has more than a vanilla install of Windows, I would say 5G in Kubuntu goes quite a ways. :)04:03
BiovoreNickPresta: yes yes.. :-)04:04
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zgmf-x20ahey Biovore that isnt the kubuntu install is it?04:04
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zgmf-x20aok cool thanks04:05
BiovoreI think its 2GB for kubuntu default..04:05
Biovoreunder that04:05
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zgmf-x20awell, were about to find out.  lol04:06
Biovoreok hf..04:06
mrksbrdhow do you format a ntfs usb drive to linux format?04:06
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ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter04:07
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zgmf-x20aBiovore: yah, dude it works fine....  it was randomly created by vista during the install...04:08
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Biovorewhat was created randomly?04:08
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse04:09
zgmf-x20athat 5.80gb partian during the install.  but whatever i will use it as fat32 swap area between the systems04:09
flaccid!info konqueror04:11
ubotukonqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.1 (feisty), package size 1992 kB, installed size 5324 kB04:11
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Angelusany help please? my custom kernel is freezing at boot when it comes to "begining: waiting for root filesystem... ... "04:17
Angelusit stays like that04:17
aaroni need help recompiling ntop.04:17
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ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild04:18
Angelusi know how to build a kernel04:18
Angelusi builded alot04:18
Angelusim seeing this error for the first time04:18
flaccid##linux or #kernel might be able to help04:18
Angeluson kubuntu04:18
Biovoreudev makes life unhappy..04:18
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Angelusim trying to boot the latest kernel from kernel.org04:19
mneptokAngelus: why?04:19
BiovoreI do too.. newer OSes like the latest redhat, Suse and ubuntu..  have a newer build procedure..04:19
JackPhildoes kaffeine-xine support sub/idx subtitles?04:19
BiovoreAngelus: have to have udev support and a ramdisk..04:19
keencan i get some help with compiz?04:19
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects04:19
Angelusi have the ramdisk img, and it loaded.04:20
keeni can't get window decorations because compiz-kde crashes everytime i try to start it?04:20
keenany ideas?04:20
Biovorenope.. it beta wear.. expect pain..04:20
mneptokAngelus: why do you need a custom kernel?04:21
Angeluscause its 2 versions above kubuntu's?04:21
Angelusi like to have the latest things04:21
Biovorenewer isn't better..04:21
Angelusim not a pro, and i think many different from you04:22
ArwenBiovore, it should. Disclaimer: I use MPlayer and nothing else.04:22
mneptokwhat failures did you have with the stock Ubuntu kernel?04:22
BiovoreArwen: ?04:22
Arwenoh wait, wrong user04:22
ArwenJackPhil, what I said04:22
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Angelusmneptok: as i told you , not a matter of failure , matter of attitude04:23
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mneptokAngelus: ever heard the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it?"04:23
Biovorewell basicly you probably don't want to go down the kernel road unless you are a pro..04:23
BiovoreI have done it before.. and basicly it a big job..04:24
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Angeluscompiling a kernel is the third think i learned on linux04:24
Angelusi have done it 100times on gentoo04:24
flaccidwhy you need to recompile the kernel for in this case?04:24
Biovoreyes.. works deferenty in the big boy world though..04:24
BiovoreAngelus: ubuntu kernel has added patches to it..04:26
Angelusi see04:26
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flaccidbut is there any need in this case for kernel re-compilation04:27
Biovoreprobably not..04:28
mneptokdefinitely not04:28
Biovoreunless your doing something very custom..04:28
Biovoreand in that case.. you probably shouldn't be using ubuntu..04:28
flaccidubuntu is desktop operating system04:29
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flaccidyeah i agree leave the custom stuff to do on things like gentoo and debian04:29
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keenany one know why kde window decorator keeps crashing when i start compiz?04:31
Biovorenot officaly supported04:31
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flaccidkeen: #ubuntu+104:31
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:31
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flaccidi mean #ubuntu-effects04:31
keennobody talks in there =(04:32
Biovoreexactly.. :-P04:32
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firecrotchSo I'm looking for a way of controlling my home server, running Kubuntu, from my cell phone.  I was thinking I could use email to do it, since I can send SMS messages to email addresses04:35
firecrotchdoes anyone have any ideas on how I could do that?04:35
mneptokfirecrotch: i use my cell phone to control my machies. i call my girlfriend and tell her what to do. ;)04:36
firecrotchmneptok: my girlfriend breaks stuff just being in the same room as my server ;)04:36
FrankHfc: can you do ssh through your phone?04:37
hitmanWillyfirecrotch, it may be possible, you'd have to do some pretty heavy scripting, but maybe use a fetchmail daemon and cat your inbox file while grepping for specific cmds04:37
mneptok"Why is Apache not running? And what smells like an open grave?"04:37
firecrotchFrankH: Nope, my phone isn't that advanced.04:37
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mneptokfirecrotch: you in the US?04:38
firecrotchhitmanWilly: Thanks for the suggestion.04:38
firecrotchmneptok:  Yes.04:38
mneptokfirecrotch: http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-770-internet-tablet-internet-tablet-2006-software-edition/q/loc/101/204081472.html04:38
hitmanWillyfirecrotch, dangit, now you've gone and given me ideas :)04:39
firecrotchmneptok:  that would be nice if I could afford it04:39
mneptokfirecrotch: grim.04:39
firecrotchhitmanWilly: you know what? This whole thing gives me the motivation to write an actual program to do it04:40
hitmanWillyfirecrotch, the main issue would be implementing sudo cmds, but that could be done by forking the script to the background as the root user, though that isn't really all that secure04:40
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mneptokfirecrotch: your phone run Java apps?04:41
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keenhow do you tell a program to start up when you log on?04:41
hitmanWillykeen, in kde or in general?04:41
firecrotchmneptok:  Yes, but I have no way to put my own on it, unless I were to hack it to death04:41
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ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.04:42
firecrotchhitmanWilly:  Now I want to learn C or C++ or something useful besides PHP04:43
pxjthat's great04:43
hitmanWillyfirecrotch, bash scripting should be sufficent in this case04:43
flaccid#bash rules04:43
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=== murchadh wonders why people want to use mobile phones they can't use/don't need to control computers they can't use/don't need, when they can't communicate with people who are useful and in need!
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keenhitmanwilly: kde04:44
hitmanWillywow, a lot of hostility in here tonight...04:44
firecrotchhitmanWilly:  true, but it would be cool to make a program that others could easily use04:44
flaccidmurchadh: because we are not an intelligent race04:44
hitmanWillykeen, see the link from ubotu then04:44
flaccidlearn java :p04:44
keenya just saw it04:44
keeni'm a bit slow atm, just installed kde for first time and learning it04:45
hitmanWillyugh, id say python instead, java is S....L....O....W....04:45
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contrast83hitmanWilly: You might check out Kommander04:46
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=== murchadh thanks flaccid for his reply. It's a shame #kubuntu-offtopic is sooo quiet tonight. Nobody in there trying so hard. :-)
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murchadhOney messin' guys!04:47
murchadhI like it in here.04:47
hitmanWillyfirecrotch, id say have a fetchmail daemon running that grabs your mail every, say, 5 mins, set up for a dedicated acct, then grep the mailbox for say, "exec", then run everything after that cmd, but that's just how i'd implement it04:48
Schuenemannis the a program for copying copy-protected cds?04:48
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albertmkis it a problem to run gedit on Kubuntu?04:49
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hitmanWillySchuenemann, try k9copy04:49
contrast83albertmk: use kate instead04:49
contrast83or kwrite04:49
Schuenemannisn't it for dvd only?04:49
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hitmanWillySchuenemann, or k3b does it too, IIRC04:49
SchuenemannhitmanWilly, how? I can't find a suitable option04:49
hitmanWillySchuenemann, or dd :)04:49
SchuenemannI want to extract the image04:50
contrast83K3b requires you to have DVD9's though, if that's what you're copying them. It won't shrink them to DVD5's like K9Copy will04:50
Schuenemannit's a cd, not dvd04:50
contrast83if that's what you're copying from*04:50
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contrast83ohh, cd. sorry, didn't read above.04:50
SchuenemannhitmanWilly, which k3b option is it?04:51
jhutchinsSchuenemann: dd04:51
Schuenemannwhat is dd?04:51
hitmanWillySchuenemann, try this in a konsole: if=/dev/cdrom of=<filename>.iso04:51
jhutchinsA bash command.04:51
hitmanWillySchuenemann, its a bit for bit dump from one file (or stdin) to another04:52
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jhutchinsSchuenemann: he means dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/<name>.iso04:52
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jhutchinsSchuenemann: Whether that iso will burn correctly is questionable, but it will read it.04:52
hitmanWillyjhutchins, that's what i just said, well, sort of :)04:52
Schuenemannreally? =/04:53
jhutchinshitmanWilly: Well, I did think that leaving out the command might be significant.04:53
Schuenemannnot very helpful to have a non-burneable iso04:53
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hitmanWillyiso files are uncompressed, so it should burn just fine, i would think04:53
SchuenemannI/O error04:53
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Well, not knowing the exact copy protection you have, I can't be sure, but you can: try it!04:53
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Schuenemannis it really /dev/cdrom?04:54
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Pastebin the whole error.04:54
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Oh, the drive should NOT be mounted.04:54
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hitmanWillySchuenemann, you may have to sudo that as well since root owns everything in /dev04:54
Tomi-idlei got a problem with a folder showing up as a file with terabytes of size. how do i remove the file?04:54
jhutchins(Which might be a bit of a struggle with our all-automatic 'buntus.)04:55
Schuenemannnah, same error with sudo04:55
Schuenemannwell, the cd is mounted04:55
hitmanWillySchuenemann, in konsole, umount /dev/cdrom04:55
jhutchinsTomi-idle: First check the disk with fsck.04:55
Schuenemanndid it04:55
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hitmanWillySchuenemann, try again04:55
hitmanWillySchuenemann, the dd cmd04:55
Schuenemannsame error04:56
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jhutchinsTomi-idle: close everything, then in a console do sudo shutdown -F -r now04:56
Schuenemannsudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/otto/Desktop/aaa.iso04:56
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hitmanWillySchuenemann, pastebin the whole error please04:56
jhutchinsSchuenemann: check sudo mount to see if it's mouted.04:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:56
Tomi-idlejhutchins: k thx04:56
Schuenemannit's not mounted, it vanished from /media04:56
jhutchinscheck to be sure.04:57
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jhutchinsSchuenemann: Any more to the error that that?04:57
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SchuenemannI'll type the whole error04:58
albertmkI need something like gksudo for Kubuntu.04:58
hitmanWillyalbertmk, kdesu04:58
albertmkUbuntu seems a little bit different from Kubuntu04:58
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hitmanWillyalbertmk, only difference is gnome vs kde04:59
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flaccidi don't think there is a qtsudo04:59
flaccidyou need root in X i think04:59
keenomg...i think i hate kde.....04:59
flaccidie. only kdesu04:59
jhutchins!kdesu | albertmk04:59
ubotualbertmk: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:59
hitmanWillykeen, why is that?04:59
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flaccidi would ask about kde/sudo in #kde05:00
SchuenemannhitmanWilly, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34840/05:00
Schuenemannoops, sorry05:00
Schuenemannjhutchins, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34840/05:00
keenhitmanwilly: i can't get my windows key to be recognized as <Super>....compiz-core says it can be upgraded....downloads the stuff, upgrades, but it really doesn't upgrade.....i can't make it so that i can select a window just clicking on one....05:01
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Actually, that's a reasonable file size.05:01
jhutchinssee if you can mount the iso via loopback.05:01
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Schuenemann5 MB is not reasonable for window05:01
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jhutchins!loopback | Schuenemann05:02
ubotuSchuenemann: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.05:02
Schuenemannand the message said "error" :-p05:02
NickPrestakeen, I have done all those things you have trouble with. Perhaps you should explain each individual problem? Also, Compiz-Fusion is fairly alpha. You may want to try Beryl until Compiz is more stable.05:02
mneptokkeen: do you *need* compositing?05:02
flaccidan io error will usually be physical damage on disk or problem with partition/fs05:02
keennickpresta: well i just came from gnome  where compizfusion ran perfectly....makes me sad05:02
contrast83keen: i had a lot of problems using compiz-fusion from the repo's. you might try installing straight from GIT05:02
jhutchinsSchuenemann: well, when it hits the bad tracks that are part of the copy protection, that shows as an error.05:03
SchuenemannI think that error is the protection05:03
SchuenemannI used the cd last week05:03
hitmanWillylol, never thought id hear beryl and stable in the same sentence05:03
Schuenemannjhutchins, yeah, that's what I think05:03
NickPrestahitmanWilly, I would say it is far more stable than CF05:03
jhutchinsSchuenemann: yes, probably.  vista?  (I misread the size)05:03
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NickPrestahitmanWilly, at least in my experiences with both Beryl and CF05:03
Schuenemannit's xp05:03
jhutchinshitmanWilly: I use them together all the time - with the word NOT.05:03
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contrast83keen: check and see what backend you're using in ccsm, also. changing that *might* help05:03
keencontrast83: well i tried new repos tonight, from the amanarath (sp) guide....buy they seem to not work well05:04
hitmanWillyyeah, well, that's like saying a two legged table is more stable than a one legged one, but i digress :P05:04
jhutchinskeen: compiz was developed for gnome.05:04
NickPrestahitmanWilly, I think that is a fairly apt comparison :)05:04
contrast83keen: that was my experience with them also... you're on feisty, right?05:04
keencontrast83: ya, feisty05:04
jhutchinskeen: kde and copiz don't totally agree about which gets to control what bits.05:04
contrast83keen: one sec...05:04
Schuenemannjhutchins, it was mounted, but I can't believe the ISO is only 5 MB05:05
keencontrast83: where do i tell my back end....it says gnome-terminal if thats what you mean05:05
jhutchinsSchuenemann: I'd do some googling, there is probably a way around it in linux.05:05
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Well, compressed?  Is it vista?05:05
Schuenemannno, xp05:05
SchuenemannVERY compressed? :p05:05
contrast83keen: http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=1985 - that walks you through compiling from git. that's the best way to go imo05:05
jhutchinsI have a XP SP2 ISO that's not protected.05:06
keencontrast83: thanks i'll give it a try05:06
Schuenemannwhere did you get it?05:06
hitmanWillyhmmm, an iso of windows xp, i smell redmond being very irritated...lol05:06
jhutchinsUm... local computer shop.  (US)05:06
Schuenemannjhutchins, I'd use windows for that if needed, but I can't find any free program for that05:06
jhutchinshang on a sec...05:06
Schuenemannthe shop sold the ISO?05:06
SchuenemannI copied the CD from the university, but the morons there do not allow me to copy the ISO05:07
jhutchinsSchuenemann: No, it sold the disk.05:07
contrast83keen: compizconfig settings manager is where you'd change your backend. i don't have cf installed on this comp so i can't find exactly where it's at, but i think it's under advanced settings or preferences (in the left column under the listing of all the different types of plugins)05:07
Schuenemannand you extracted without any problems?05:07
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Ah, well yours is probably bulk licensed to the U so you don't need a key.05:07
SchuenemannI need a key05:07
RudzHow do i access windows files from Kubuntu which runs on vmware?05:07
jhutchinsOh.  Well, in that case, an iso should be easy to come by.05:08
keencontrast83: i have kde backend...should i try another?05:08
Schuenemannmaybe I should copy to my pen drive when they're not seeing05:08
Schuenemannjhutchins, easy to come by?05:08
hitmanWillyactually, if you have a key, you should be able to download a non-cracked iso file almost anywhere05:09
contrast83keen: you can try changing it and seeing if it fixes anything. sometimes it does, but ymmv05:09
hitmanWillySchuenemann, worst case there's always torrentspy :P05:09
Schuenemannbut that would be cracked or something... or not?05:10
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hitmanWillySchuenemann, maybe or maybe not, but I see no ethical problems with it if you have a legit key05:10
Schuenemannif it's cracked I'll have no chances of using the key :-p05:11
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Actually, the stock iso is pretty easy to get, uncracked, because it requires a key to install.05:11
keencontrast83: well it fixed one problem by switching to gnome05:11
Schuenemannwhere? from MS site?05:11
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Do you have the key as just the numbers, or do you have the special little mS sticker?05:11
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Actually, yes, but you need a msdn id.05:12
keencontrast83: do you know how to get kde to recognize my win key as <Super>05:12
hitmanWillySchuenemann, don't know, tend to avoid ms whenever possible05:12
SchuenemannI have the numbers05:12
Schuenemannand a msdnAA id05:12
SchuenemannAA = academic alliance05:12
jhutchinsIf you had the sticker, you'd be able to download the iso.05:12
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Er, sorry, with the sticker you could get an iso/cd from a MS dealer.05:12
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Worth logging in and looking around then.05:13
Schuenemannmaybe I should send them an email asking for a solution05:13
hitmanWillyjhutchins, is that like a drug dealer? :P05:13
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jhutchinshitmanWilly: Yeah, but not as beneficial to society.05:13
contrast83keen: umm... i could be wrong, but i think <Win> and <Super> are just two names for the same thing.05:14
SchuenemannI can't download05:14
jhutchinsSchuenemann: My msdn id expired several years ago (I checked a while back), so I don't know, but you might be able to find it on msdn.05:14
Schuenemannthe only option available is "bring a blank cd to the university and copy it"05:14
keencontrast83: then why doesn't compiz notice when i press the key?05:14
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jhutchinskeen: 'cause 'buntu's keyboard maps are squirrelly.05:15
hitmanWillykeen, kde takes over super for its own things, IIRC05:15
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tomirunning fdsk on the partition right now05:15
contrast83hitmanWilly: that's only if kwin is running and the shortcut in question is also used by it05:15
keenhitmanwilly: oh...so how do i fix it?05:16
tomiit restarted fsck and suddenly my monitor went black?05:16
tomihd is still running though05:16
SchuenemannI think I'll try to break into the lab and copy the ISO05:16
tomiis this a problem or normal for monitor to lose signal during fsck? i used the "shutdown -F -f now"05:16
contrast83keen: what happens when you try to set a new shortcut in CompizConfig using the Win key?05:16
jhutchinstomi: Yeah, sorry, i tried to tell you what it would do but you were already gone.05:16
hitmanWillySchuenemann, it could have just been a bad burn on the cd as well05:17
jhutchinstomi: It _should_ come back when it's done.05:17
keencontrast83: nothing....05:17
tomijhutchins: ok, just haven't backed up data in 8 years ^^;;;05:17
SchuenemannhitmanWilly, but I used on sunday05:17
Schuenemannused it*05:17
tomijhutchins: so i got a bit scared.. heh05:17
contrast83keen: do you have the ring and/or shift switcher enabled?05:17
tomifsck shouldn't screw up anything right?05:17
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Well, it could have been damaged since, or it could be, as you say, copy protected.  After all, I would assume that if all you have is a burned CD and a number, you don't have an actual XP license.05:18
jhutchinsSchuenemann: The schools do have to avoid giving out free copies of XP beyond what they've agreed to and payed for.05:18
keencontrast83: shift switcher...i just tried with win again and it beeped at me05:18
Schuenemannjhutchins, isn't that number the license?05:18
keencontrast83: like kde hates my win key...05:18
jhutchinskeen: Actual support for kubuntu on compiz/beryl is in #ubuntu-effects (combined).05:19
jhutchinsSchuenemann: No, it's a key.05:19
contrast83keen: it's not kde's fault that most of the compiz devs use gnome. ;-)05:19
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Supposedly attached to a license.05:19
Schuenemannwell, a licensed key05:19
keenjhutchiins: lol i'm in there too, hard to get anyone to talk in there05:19
Schuenemannthe number was given by MS05:19
NickPrestakeen, if you have /usr/bin/xmodmap, run it. It should show you the key modifiers. My Super key is assigned to mod405:19
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Onec it's copied down though, it's no longer a full license.05:19
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Yes, but with restrictions.05:19
Schuenemannbut the number was given exclusively to me05:19
jhutchinsSchuenemann: By the school?05:20
Schuenemannno, by MS05:20
contrast83keen: do you have both the shift and ring switchers enabled, or just shift?05:20
Schuenemannthat msdn page05:20
jhutchinsSchuenemann: see, if you actually OWN the license, then you don't just get the number, you get the shiney/sparkly certificate.05:20
Schuenemannthat's what I think05:20
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Schuenemannthere is an activation required when I first run xp05:21
Schuenemannonline activation05:21
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Hmmm.  Well, like I said, I've been out of msdn for a while.05:21
jhutchinsSchuenemann: So why do you need to copy the CD in the first place?05:21
hitmanWillymy guess is that its a bulk license, like they use for corporate customers05:21
jhutchinshitmanWilly: Mine too.05:21
Biovoreactualy.. with windows XP and vista.. you don't OWN squat..05:21
Biovoreyour renting it..05:21
Biovoreat MS will05:21
jhutchinsBiovore: Well, according to the digital mafia.05:21
Schuenemannbecause if it gets borked I'll have to go to school to record another, and it might be on sunday, or their computer might be broken, or many more boring situations05:21
BiovoreAccoring to the EULA05:22
NickPrestakeen, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1896988&postcount=12 Replace nano with vim/kate/whatever.05:22
tomiSchuenemann: so the activation doesn't work?05:22
Schuenemannit does work heh05:22
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Did they say anythnig about copy protection?05:22
Biovorenot sure..05:22
Schuenemannthey == school?05:22
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Yeah, or the MSDN site.05:22
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jhutchinsSchuenemann: Anything like 'you can't make backups"?05:23
Schuenemannthe school didn't say anything, but I asked for the ISO and they said they're not allowed to give it05:23
Schuenemannnot that I know of05:23
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jhutchinsThe plot thickens.05:23
jhutchinsI'd take the CD back and say "it's b0rked, won't read beyond the first six MB".05:23
jhutchinsSeriously - it might very well be.05:24
SchuenemannI don't think so... I tried recording I while ago, it had the same "problem"05:24
Schuenemannbut installed fine05:24
hitmanWillyif dd doesn't read it, then that's the most likely cause i would say05:24
jhutchinsThe key is the only thing you had to enter to install?05:24
Schuenemannand there is the activation, when it is first ran05:25
jhutchinsI'd say there's a good chance it's bad then.05:25
jhutchinsSchuenemann: Right, on-line.05:25
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jhutchinsThis has been so TOTALLY offtopic. Schuenemann If we need to continue, pleas hail me in kubuntu-oftopic.  (I'm looking for more info & iso's now)05:27
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SchuenemannI'd better go sleep now05:27
jhutchinsLet us know how it turns out.05:28
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mrksbrdok i need some help!!!!05:31
mrksbrdi did this for fat32..........https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions#head-58b0f4b165129f43a80bba6c1c4227c490efa11905:31
mrksbrdbut still not showing up on desktop & std it is already mounted05:32
Dr_willischeck in media:/ not in /media/ ?05:32
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Dr_willisor if the mount command shows it.. just enter its path /media/whatever in a address bar in konqueror05:32
jhutchinsmrksbrd: re-mount it with the new options.05:33
tomifsck still running... starting to get nervous <.<05:33
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Whiz2I'm trying to mount a drive to a directory on a different drive, and for some reason, it keeps mounting to /media/hdb1 instead of /media/hdc1/download am i doing something wrong?05:34
Dr_willisWhiz2,  i would guess so., :)05:35
Whiz2i edited my fstab, then rebooted, but it still mounts there05:35
mrksbrdjhutchins:i attempted to remount it exactly how the article stated & still nothing05:35
Dr_willisyou mount hdc1 first, then you mount the other drive to /media/hcd1/whatever05:35
Dr_willisim guessing somthing  fundamental is the issue. perhaps the order of the mounts in fstab. ?05:36
Whiz2Dr_willis: does that mean in fstab,hdc1 should higher in the list?05:36
Dr_willisI would guess so,05:36
jhutchinsCan't think of the factoid for the Mobile Intel 945GM Express Chipset - anybody?05:36
Whiz2i didn't realize the list order in fstab wasimportant05:36
Dr_williswell SOMTHING has to get mounted first..05:36
mrksbrddrive is /dev/sda1, so i configured it as that05:36
jhutchinsmrksbrd: mount -a just mounts un-mounted drives.05:36
Whiz2true ty i will try that...05:36
jhutchinsWhiz2: pastebin the fstab.05:37
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jhutchinsmrksbrd: so sudo mounte /dev/sda1 -o remount05:37
jhutchinser, mount.05:37
mrksbrdoh ok05:37
jhutchinsStill looking for a good keyboard.05:38
Tomi-idlejhutchins: thx for the shutdown attributes :)05:38
jhutchinsmrksbrd: then sudo mount will tell you where it's mounted, and ls -l /where/it's/mounted will show you the permissions.05:38
jhutchinsTomi-idle: <grin> trying to mention them often enough that i will remember them next time I need them.05:39
jhutchinsTomi-idle: -F is "force disk check".05:39
Whiz2Dr_willis: another question... i have a webserver on the linux computer with a root of hdc1... if i mount that drive,then mount the other one as a directory of that drive, is it possible that I could use a URL thatpoints to something in that drive, and have it still work?05:39
dero_Hello and Goodbye05:40
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mrksbrdlet me try it....brb05:40
Tomi-idlejhutchins: yeah? didn't work for me. just got to plain root ;) but i did fsck manually05:40
Whiz2for example... http://serveraddy.net/download/filename (download would be the directory mounted to the other drive05:40
mrksbrdmount: can't find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab05:41
Tomi-idleit's sda(?)05:41
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Dr_willisWhiz2,  should. but ive rarely messed with  webservers in that way05:42
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mrksbrdjhutchins:i'm going to past u my fstab file, can u look it over for me, & tell me what i'm doing wrong............pls05:46
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jhutchinsI'll try.05:47
Dr_willis /dev/sda  is wrong for a start05:47
Dr_willisunless you are mounting a cdrom.05:47
Biovorewell /dev/sda could also a sata drive though..05:48
mrksbrdsda1 is for my usb HDD05:48
Biovore^ or a usb drive :-)05:48
mrksbrdbrb potty break05:48
Dr_willissda is the driv.. but sda1 would be the Partition ON the drive. :)05:49
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ViperrHey people05:49
ViperrCan any of you guys give me any help on installing ATi radeon 1650 drivers, I cant get my desktop effects working on Ubuntu >.<05:50
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Dr_willisViperr,  install that restricted-manager tool and let it install the drivers - is what i normally do05:51
Dr_willisor read the !ati factoids and see what it suggests05:51
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:51
ViperrThanks guys :)05:52
Whiz2the server seems to be working correctly now.thank you05:52
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Whiz2err.... maybe not...05:57
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firecrotchDoes anyone know of a program that can view Visio projects in Linux? Or am I going to be stuck trying to get Visio working in Wine?05:58
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firecrotchgenii: are you sure that's the name of it?  apt can't find it05:59
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geniilemme look again06:00
firecrotchgenii:  found it, it's kivio06:01
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firecrotchOh, it looks like kivio can't handle Visio projects06:03
geniiAh, damn06:04
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intelikeyhmmm how can two 128m mem sticks add up to     MemTotal:       223924 kB   ????06:04
Tomi-idleintelikey: one possibility is that your graphics card uses shared 32mb ram06:05
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intelikeyTomi-idle being on-board that may be it...06:06
intelikeyTomi-idle it seems that it would/should still show in the total though06:06
firecrotchintelikey:  Mine doesn't show in the total06:07
Tomi-idleif the computers gives the 32mb ram for gfx card to use, it wont show up in the total06:07
Tomi-idleneither does on my laptop06:07
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intelikeyso i should see if there is a way in bios to reduce that waste.06:08
Berzerkerhow would I go about installing kickoff?06:08
Tomi-idleBerzerker: there might be a package for kubuntu in http://www.kde-apps.org06:08
intelikey!info kickoff06:09
ubotuPackage kickoff does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:09
intelikeynothing supported.06:09
mrksbrdok i'm back06:09
intelikeyi think i'll the bios for a way to reduce the shared mem06:09
intelikeyback in a few.06:09
mrksbrdjhutchins:did the past apply to the channel?06:09
Berzerkerhow would I go about rearranging groups in kopete?06:09
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mrksbrddr_willis: u still there?06:13
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intelikeyok turned share down from 32 to 8     wont go any lower.06:14
intelikeyMemTotal:       248308 kB06:14
Tomi-idleif you're not gonna used 3d apps that's gonna be enough :)06:14
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intelikey3D on   0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 31)06:15
intelikeyi'm saying i don't think that does  3D      am i wrong ?06:16
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Tomi-idleif it has 32mb ram then i think it does 3d too06:17
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intelikeyit has 64m of shared ram if i turn it up that high   but that wont make the   Driver  "sis"   support dri and 3d06:19
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Whiz2ok... here's my situation... I'm trying to mount /dev/hdb1 to /media/hdc1/download I've edited my fstab so it should be working, but whenever I open "System" and check the properties of the drive, it still says it is mounted to /media/hdb1 and any files that are put into /media/hdc1/download do not appear there. what am i doing wrong?06:20
ddi'm using kubuntu 7.04 and i would like to know if i can change de mode of xorg.conf to 32 bits by default i'm using 2406:20
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intelikeyWhiz2   grep hdb1 /etc/fstab06:21
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Tomi-idledd: there's no need to change 24bit colors since it's the same thing06:22
intelikeydd i believe you will find "if you care to look into it" that 24 == 32   or should i say that 32 is actually only 24 bit06:22
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notvwhat would cause the settings to suddenly change from high contrast to light grey06:23
intelikeyWhiz2 are you going to show us the fstab line ?06:23
dd<intelikey> <Tomi-idle> ok i understand06:24
notvits as if totem and gaim briefly uncorporated my theme but then decided they didnt like it06:24
jhutchinsmrksbrd: No, you have to paste the uRL here.06:24
jhutchinsI gotta crash anyway, sorry.06:24
ddsomeone know how i can configure my motorla sm56 modem on linux06:25
Whiz2uhh yeah I can do that hang on I'll use pastebin to  give the entire fstab...06:25
mrksbrddd, is it a aircard modem or reg 56k???????06:25
intelikeyWhiz2 heh i only want one line.06:25
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Whiz2ok gimme a sec, cuz i have to grab it from the other computer...06:26
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intelikeyoh   not networked ?06:26
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arihi. i just installed kubuntu 6.10 and upgraded to 7.04 and i think my computer is a little fucked up now. i'm desperately trying to install the required codecs to play goddamn mp3 songs but when amarok automatically asks me to download the stuff i need, it crashes and i get an error number whatever different each time. i've tried to install the codecs manually like i had to do with edgy but it doesn't seem very effective. i searched the packages i06:27
arimay need, i installed them but it still won't work and now i really don't know what to do. could someone help me please?06:27
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intelikeyhmmm someone called ari just triggered an autoignore06:28
Whiz2it's networked, but i can't access the fstab file straight from here... I never share my root drive :-p06:28
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ariintelikey: i'm sorry?06:28
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Tomi-idle[07:29]  <ari> intelikey: i'm sorry?06:29
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Tomi-idlecoffeeee :o~06:30
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geniiunderdog5004: You alive over there? ;)06:30
Vaelenari: If you go into Adept and search for 'mp3', see if 'Xine extra plugins' is checked under 'Multimedia'.06:30
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ariVaelen: i installed the libxine-extracodecs thing.06:31
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VaelenOk, cool.  What sort of error are you getting?06:31
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geniiintelikey: Yup :) It the spoon don't stand up by itself it isn't worth drinkin :)06:32
Whiz2here are both lines for both drives from my fstab06:32
arias it may not seem, i searched a little trough the "fucking manual" but i didn't found what i needed so that's why i'm here asking questions and wasting your precious time.06:32
mrksbrdgenii, are u any good @ mounting usb HDD's??06:32
Whiz2they are... /dev/hdc1 /media/hdc1 auto defaults,utf8,umask=000,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,user 0 106:32
geniimrksbrd: It should be the same as for one which is internal. Of course what options you may need could vary depending on the filesystem on it or so on06:33
Whiz2currently the drive is not mounted at all06:33
intelikeyWhiz2 ok and hdc1 is either ntfs or vfat      what the next line.06:33
Whiz2next line is commented out06:33
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mrksbrdcan't get it to work..........followed these directions  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions#head-58b0f4b165129f43a80bba6c1c4227c490efa11906:34
intelikeyWhiz2 thought we were working on  hdb1  ?06:34
Whiz2hang on i'll just put the whole fstab into a pastebin06:34
geniimrksbrd: OK I'll look at that.AFK06:34
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intelikeyWhiz2 yeah do that.06:35
mrksbrdwhiz, u talking to me?06:35
Whiz2intelikey: look at /dev/hdb1 in the paste i just gave ya here06:35
geniimrksbrd: You are running KDE or gnome?06:35
Whiz2that is the line you're looking at for the new drive06:35
mrksbrdover ubuntu06:35
Whiz2mrksbrd: nope talking to intelikey06:35
intelikeywhiz there is no hdb in what you posted.06:35
Whiz2grrr ok i'll use pastebin06:36
mrksbrdsounds like he is having same prob as I am06:36
cassanohello i need wireless help i have a  Broadcom Corporation BCM4303 802.11b Wireless and it requires a button to turn on and it currently wont work06:36
geniimrksbrd: Those instructions are Gnome-specific. Also they omit some sudo before, for instance mkdir /media/windows06:36
intelikeymrksbrd could be.   i haven't been able to get much out of him yet...06:36
geniimrksbrd: What fs is on the drive, ntfs or fat or what?06:37
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mrksbrdtried f32, and ntfs06:37
cassanodoes anybody know what i should do?06:37
geniimrksbrd: Yes, but what filesystem was the drive formatted with?06:37
geniimrksbrd: Was it formatted at all yet?06:38
mrksbrdcassano, u might have to hit the func but combo to turn it on06:38
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Whiz2intelikey: the drive will not automount at all06:38
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cassanowhat is the func button?06:38
mrksbrdoriginally windows xp, then formatted it under linux06:38
Whiz2i have to manually mount it (by double clicking on the unmounted drive)06:38
intelikeyWhiz2 ok you do know that you have to mount hdc1 first then there has to be i dir in the root of hdc1 named downloads and then you mount hdb1 on it  ???06:38
mrksbrdmine would be fn----F506:39
intelikeyWhiz2 looks like you may have  a race situation06:39
Vaelencassano: Are you using this on a laptop?06:39
Whiz2if you will notice, hdc1 is mounted first06:39
intelikeyyou are mounting hdb1 on  "/media/hdc1/download"   perhaps that's a typo ?06:40
Whiz2and there is a download directory on the drive06:40
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geniimrksbrd: When you formatted it under linux did you use a command like mkfs.vfat or a command more like mke2fs  or how ?06:40
Whiz2not a typo.the directory name is download06:40
ariVaelen: in adept, the "xine etra plugins" is all gray and i can't (un)check it.06:40
intelikeyWhiz2 it's a race   you need to not automaticly mount hdb1  but rather add a mount command in the /etc/rc.local for it.06:40
mrksbrdgenii, b4 i formatted it under linux hangthedj instructed me on how to do it and it worked when i forced it to mount, but when I formatted it under linux can't even get the dialog box to pop up06:40
Vaelenari: strange.... give me a sec to check something.06:41
arithant you06:41
Whiz2well nowI'm getting an issue where it's refusing to mount at all06:41
mrksbrdgenii, used gparted06:41
Whiz2so I'm going to check it's format, and make it the same as hdc106:41
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geniimrksbrd: gparted is for the partitioning part of preparing a disk. Formatting the disk would be the next step after that, with some filesystem like ext2 or ntfs or vfat or so on.06:42
intelikeywhiz2   /dev/hdb1 /media/hdc1/download auto defaults,utf8,umask=000,uid=0,gid=46,rw,user,noauto 0 006:42
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intelikeyWhiz2 try that line   ^  in the fstab   and add    mount /media/hdc1/download      in the /etc/rc.local06:43
mrksbrdgenii, it did ask me which file system i wanted to use, just asumed that was the format command06:43
intelikeythat will keep it from being a race and still make it automatic mount at boot .06:43
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Whiz2intelikey: hang on i just reformatted it to the correct filesystem... fonna see if that fixes it06:44
geniimrksbrd: Do you remember what you put when it asked what file system?06:44
Berzerkerquesiton 1: what's the best IM client for linux06:44
mrksbrdright now it is fat3206:44
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intelikeymrksbrd  vfat06:44
mrksbrdit did give me a option for ext3 as well06:44
geniimrksbrd: OK good, that is what I was trying to discover.06:44
geniimrksbrd: Do you know how to use pastebin website?06:45
Okapihello to all06:45
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notvwhy is it that my irc client goes along with my theme but other programs wont?06:45
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intelikeycause your irc client is better than other apps notv   ???06:46
cassanomrksbrd fn+f5 is the sleep button so my wireless didnt work06:46
Berzerkerwhat is the best IM client for linux?06:46
notvbut it worked for a few minutes, then switched to default or something06:46
intelikeyBerzerker the one that you like.06:46
Vaelenari: do you have aptitude installed?06:46
OkapiIs it any way you can see all applications you installed in your pc? I am usieng FEIST and want to see a list of all application are installed in my system.06:46
notvit worked right when i started my computer06:46
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Berzerkerintelikey: what's the one you like?06:47
mrksbrdcassano, depends on the brand computer what u need to push06:47
intelikeyBerzerker i don't  im  so none of them06:47
ariVaelen: don't think so.06:47
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.06:47
cassanowell its a compaq presario R300006:47
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Flamzarthello is there a way to chance the start menu wutton to the win button on the keyboard and what is the button kubuntu uses for it06:47
cassanowith windows i just push the wirless button on the side06:47
arunanyone here used both kubuntu and ubuntu?06:48
Vaelenari: try installing that first, it might be able to give us some better info on what's wrong with that package. (why it's greyed out, I mean): sudo apt-get install aptitude06:48
geniimrksbrd: The idea is that you hightlight text in a text editor or in a console/terminal on your computer, select to copy it, then go to the pastebin website, paste the text you copied into the webpage, submit it, then record the internet address it reports in the URL bar of your browser back here so we can go examine it.06:48
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mrksbrdu want the fstab file?06:48
arioh konsole returns me this: "06:48
ariE: Impossible de verrouiller /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Ressource temporairement non disponible)06:48
ariE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:48
cassano5 hate not being able to get my wireless working06:49
Vaelenari: You need to close Adept first.06:49
cassanoif there is anybody willing to help i will do all that i can06:49
VaelenAdept is holding a lock on the software database. :)06:49
geniimrksbrd: What I want is the following:   contents of fstab file. result of the command blkid. result of the command fdisk -l  result of the command mount06:49
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underdog5004genii, you around?06:50
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intelikeyfile "/usr/local/bin/pastebin"06:50
arisomeday i'm going to know what i'm doing with my computer...06:50
mrksbrdfstab file........ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34849/06:50
intelikeyscript if anyone needs it.06:50
ariit tells me aptitude is installed and up to date06:50
Vaelenari: Ok, sweet, then run: sudo aptitude06:51
Whiz2does linux mount the drives in the order they appear in the fstab?06:51
mrksbrdfdisk....... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34850/06:51
Vaelenari: When it comes up, type a '/' to start searching, and then type the name of the xine extras package.06:52
Vaelenari: when you find it, press enter and you'll get a screen with lots of information about the package.06:52
intelikeyWhiz2 i told you you have created a race situation,   you probably wont get that to work.06:52
ariwich should be libxine-extracodecs ?06:52
intelikeyWhiz2  you could try putting hdc1 at the top and hdb1 at the bottom  but you are still liable to find it racing06:53
mrksbrdblkid........ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34851/06:53
geniimrksbrd: OK. You have in fstab the drive sda AND drive hda as well. What version of ubuntu are you using (6.06 6.10 7.04 or what) also do you have SCSI drives if using versions 6.06 or 6.10. If not 6.06 or 6.10 but 7.04 the usb drive should be likely sdb instead of hda06:53
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mrksbrdno scsi06:54
arunhas anyone here used both kubuntu and ubuntu? do kde apps run well on ubuntu?06:54
mrksbrdjust internal & usb06:54
arundoes gnome look better06:54
intelikeygenii usb will be using scsi addressing06:54
Whiz2intelikey: i'm making the changes now06:54
ariwhat is it supposed to show me?06:54
intelikeyarun yes yes06:54
mrksbrdarun, just install kde environment.......... sudo apt-get install kde06:54
Vaelenarun: yeah, kubuntu and ubuntu are the same base system.  For example, you can install kubuntu on an ubuntu system by installing the 'kubuntu-desktop' package.06:54
geniiintelikey: Yes, but in 6.06/6.10 hda is IDE sda is scsi/sata06:55
geniiscsi/sata/usb even06:55
aruni'm on kubuntu right now, just curious about ubuntu06:55
andresjarun, I installed ubuntu, and then kubuntu-desktop. apps run well, but the file assocications get messed up (instead of opening File Manager of GNOME, it opens Ark of KDE)06:55
mrksbrdarun, then u can boot to GNOME environment or KDE @ signin06:55
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arunandresj: thanks for the warning06:55
Berzerkeris there a way to dock an application to the side of the screen?06:55
Vaelenari: I'll send you a screenshot.06:55
intelikeygenii sda is scsi/sata/usb/(ide only on 6.10)   on all systems.06:55
OkapiIs it any way you can see all applications you installed in your pc? I am usieng FEIST and want to see a list of all application are installed in my system.06:56
jhutchinsandresj: It's calling KDE apps when you're running gnome?06:56
intelikeygenii just didn't want you to over look an usb something....   i thought he mentioned usb at the onset.06:56
intelikeygenii i wasn't trying to interfear.  just mentioning.06:57
mrksbrdandresj, .........som something sounds messed up, I have ubuntu as base, w/KDe environment and have no issues06:57
geniimrksbrd: Make sure usb drive is powered on. Then use pastebin website to report results of command: sudo fdisk -l06:57
arundo kde apps look bad in gnome, just like gnome apps dont quite fit in in kde?06:57
geniiintelikey: On my 7.04 and 7.10 even all the ide are sdX06:57
jhutchinsandresj: Whatever's responsible for that is certainly bad stuff.  They're supposed to be able to coexist.06:57
andresjmrksbrd, but do you have gnome installed?06:58
aridamn :'( i went too fast and pressed the wrong button.06:58
arii'm such a pain i'm sorry06:58
intelikeygenii err ummm umh     i thought that they stopped using scsi emulation for ide in 7.406:58
andresjjhutchins, they coexist, but apparently they use the same system for file assocications06:58
mrksbrdandresj, ubuntu is GNOME based06:58
andresjso they get overriden06:58
jhutchinsmrksbrd: what's that the output of?06:58
Vaelenari: No problem.  You pressed a wrong button in aptitude?06:59
andresjmrksbrd, yes, but you can uninstall gnome and install kde06:59
Vaelenari: or with the screenshot?06:59
arundo kde apps 'fit in' well with gnome06:59
VaelenBerzerker: It depnds on the app.06:59
arii pressed the wrong button while trying to accept your screenshot06:59
mrksbrdjhutchins, genii is trying to help me get the dagum usb to work06:59
arunBerzerker: what do you mean by dock an application to the side of the screen06:59
Vaelenari: one sec.06:59
geniimrksbrd: Change in your fstab file from hda1 to sdc106:59
Berzerkermake it so it takes up that area of the screen07:00
Berzerkernothing can be put behind it07:00
andresjarun, from my point of view kde apps look a little better on gnome; compared with gnome apps in kde07:00
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mrksbrdgenii, done07:00
andresjbut they still don't fit well07:00
ariok. i accepted it.07:00
arunBerzerker: there is an option to keep above others07:00
arunoh sorry07:01
arunthat's not what you meant07:01
arunnever mind07:01
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Berzerkerand that when things maximize, it will not be maximized past where the application is07:01
geniimrksbrd: Now try: sudo mount -a07:01
mrksbrdandresj, why would u uninstall GNOME?????????? why not just install Kububtu if u don't want it07:01
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arunBerzerker: try the dock application bar?07:01
Vaelenari: take a look at that.  If your display has anything in red, or mentions anything about something being broken, let me know.07:01
andresjmrksbrd, just pointing out it is possible, and that's the reason I asked you that... anyways, so when you run gnome, gnome apps open for files; and when you run kde, kde apps open?07:02
Vaelenari: I probably have a newer version of you, don't let that throw you off. (I'm running the development version of kubuntu)07:02
VaelenBerzerker: The dock application bar gives you a place to put dock apps, but those apps have to be written to support it.07:02
mrksbrdif your under KDE the progs for GNOME will not have an icon next to it07:02
Berzerkerwhat's that?07:02
intelikeyBerzerker sounds like a challange.   kicker might handle that,  i'm not sure.      add pannel and put only the dock on that.   kdocker  maybe       idk.07:02
ariwell, there is no red thing in my aptitude thingy.07:02
cassanothe damn Ubuntu forums wont load for me07:03
ariall black, grey and a little blue...07:03
arunBerzerker: right click on your panel, and select add new panel > dock application bar07:03
andresjmrksbrd, wierd... maybe I dind't install it right... I just did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (well actually I did it via synaptic)07:03
Berzerkerand how do I add things to it07:03
mrksbrdgenii, ran it & still didn't place it on the desktop07:03
mrksbrdsynaptic sux in my opinion07:03
mrksbrdmanual all the way fo rme07:03
aruncan i run stuff like konversation, kontact, etc in ubuntu? will my settings from kubuntu be retained?07:04
mrksbrdbut as u i am still learning commands07:04
geniimrksbrd: You may also want to change iocharset=utf8,umask=000    to iocharset=utf8,umask=000,user,auto  in that same line that now has sdc1 instead of hda107:04
andresjarun, what do you mean by settings from kubuntu being retained07:04
mrksbrdandresj, i had 2 install it several x's before it was right, also try the alt cd version, not live cd07:04
geniimrksbrd: Save that change then redo: sudo mount -a07:05
andresjmrksbrd, oh... well it doesn't matter right now... because I reinstalled the OS, so I overwrote everything... and just installed Kubuntu07:05
aruni mean, if i'm running both kubuntu and ubuntu, if i log into ubuntu and open konversation.. will stuff like fonts, colours, etc be retained07:05
Vaelenari: Hmm, well the install doesn't seem to be broken then.07:05
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intelikeyarun if you install more than one *buntu-desktop  you may experance some settings filtering into the wrong DE   but if you install only one  *buntu-desktop and then add  kde gnome xfce  or what ever DE you like  you shouldn't have any problems    i never have anyway  and some others have expressed the same feeling on the matter07:06
andresjarun, I think it should... (not sure cause I haven't tried it for a while) but it should07:06
Berzerkerhow do I add things to the dock?07:06
VaelenBerzerker: You need 'WindowMaker' dock apps to use that panel.07:06
VaelenBerzerker: Not just any app will run there, it has to be written for it.  Let me find you an example.07:07
intelikeymrksbrd did you pastebin    blkid   eariler ?07:07
cassanodoes this link work for anybody http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2568307:07
Whiz2intelikey: can /etc/rc.local be used to run a command during startup as a specific user? (aka not as root)07:07
VaelenBerzerker: http://dockapps.org/07:08
VaelenI don't think that's what you want though.07:08
arunintelikey: so if i'm on kubuntu now, if i want to try gnome what should i do? i want to be able to select the DE when i log in07:08
geniimrksbrd: Then the drive is not vfat even though it's partition type says it is07:08
Berzerker8-bit apps07:08
intelikeyWhiz2 sure.   sudo -u name command    i think it is.07:08
intelikeyarun install   gnome07:08
Vaelendockapps are basically apps that run in a 64x64 pixel window.07:08
Whiz2intelikey: if that is the case, rc.localdoes not execute on startup07:09
ariVaelen: here is a screenshot of my aptitude thing: http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aptituderd6.jpg07:09
Whiz2how do i change it's execution bit?07:09
geniimrksbrd: OK. let us then format it that way then.07:09
intelikeyWhiz2  you did put your command before the   "exit 0 "    didn't you ?07:09
Vaelenari: Ok, type '/libxine-extracodecs'07:09
andresjcassano, it doesn't work for me...07:09
ariit is in french but i suppose that the packages' names are the same...07:09
Whiz2this is an unrelatedcommandthat never runs07:09
geniimrksbrd:    sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc107:10
Vaelenari: You should see the libxine-extracodecs package in the list then.  When it is highlighted you should be able to press enter.07:10
andresjcassano, no wait, it does07:10
arunintelikey: if i install gnome then how do i configure it so that i can select the DE when i log in? or does that happen automatically07:10
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geniimrksbrd: When that is finished, do again:   sudo mount -a07:10
Whiz2intelikey: would it ask for the password when it runs likethat?07:10
ariapt-utils is highlighted.07:10
Whiz2i don't want my system to stop on boot requiring the password07:11
intelikeyarun you don't configure it.   it will be in the list when you login  select the de you want and login07:11
intelikeyWhiz2 no07:11
Vaelenari: ok, try this.07:11
arunintelikey: and i can have separate settings for gnome and kde? as in, stuff like wallpapers, default apps, etc?07:11
cassanoandresj i wish it would work for me its supposed to be a tutorial for how to get my wireless working07:12
VaelenClick on 'Search' and then 'Find' (clicking should work even though it's a console app)07:12
mrksbrdbrb...letme try07:12
VaelenAnd type the package name in there.07:12
andresjcassano, it's very slow... try it again07:12
mrksbrdnope still getting that same error as the last paste!!!!07:12
intelikeyarun and you can logout and log right back into another DE   just like the rest of us....07:12
Whiz2rebooting the server now... let's see if this works (on both counts)07:12
arunintelikey: nice.. you use two DEs as well?07:13
intelikeyarun three07:13
intelikeywell four actually but i hardly ever login xfce07:13
cassanoi will on my other pc07:13
mrksbrdthis is paste after format........ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34853/07:13
trekdannegnome + kde + xfce + ?07:14
andresjcassano, if it doesn't work I have pasted the contents here: http://rafb.net/p/A6rcPX23.html07:14
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intelikeytrekdanne i had 7 DE's installed at one time07:14
aridoesn't work. libxine-extracodecs is a ghost package. it is a legend brought by the Old Developpers. lots of faithful linuxians tried to find it but they all failed in their quest.07:15
mrksbrdgenii, did u get the last 2 pastes???????07:15
intelikeykde twm xfce gnome fluxbox blackbox and icewm07:15
arii guess i'm getting i little tired to tell such dumb things...07:15
geniimrksbrd: Yes. When you ran:   sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1     what did it do if anything?07:16
trekdannenice, not sure you can call twm a "desktop enviroment" tho ;)07:16
VaelenThe package says it's a transitional package.  I wonder if there is a newer version of it...07:16
cassanoandrej thank you07:16
intelikeywell icewm either...  but for the present convo...07:16
trekdanneah yea ofc07:16
mrksbrdlight flashed on the drive then gave this msg...... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34853/07:16
Vaelenari: hit 'q' to quit out of that and open Adept back up.07:17
Whiz2intelikey: it's looking like rc.local did not execute07:17
intelikeyWhiz2 what version if ubuntu ?07:17
trekdannei uesd window maker before I got a new machine capable of running KDE... :P07:17
VaelenAnd click on 'Edit software sources'07:17
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arunintelikey: thanks for all your help07:17
arunso i'll just go ahead and install gnome from adept?07:18
intelikeyWhiz2  in a konsole issue      runlevel07:18
Whiz2intelikey: it's an old computer....07:18
intelikeyarun yep   welcome.07:18
geniimrksbrd: Thats all? 2 lines? It should have much more than that, capacity of drive it's formatting , some progress then back to a prompt07:18
arunthanks again07:18
trekdanneany idea why ktorrent keep crashing on me?07:18
Whiz2intelikey: the reply to runlevel was N 207:18
Vaelenari: and make sure that all the options there are checked. (specifically 'multiverse', which is where the package is located)07:19
mrksbrdnope that was it........no progress meter or anything07:19
trekdannei mean, what's the reason for a app like ktorrent to crash, memory leaks?07:19
mrksbrdtook like 1 sec07:19
intelikeyWhiz2 ok    ls /etc/rc2.d     and pastebin it07:19
underdog5004trekdanne, try running ktorrent from a terminal and see if there are any errors.07:19
intelikeyWhiz2 ok    ls -l /etc/rc2.d     and pastebin it07:19
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geniimrksbrd: Did you put   sudo    before the mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1   part?07:19
mrksbrdcopy'd it directly from what u posted07:20
geniimrksbrd: OK. How large is the drive?07:20
intelikeythat's dangerous07:20
OkapiIs it any way you can see all aplications you installed in your pc? I am using FEIST and want to see a list of all aplications are installed in my system.07:20
Whiz2intelikey: i have to do a workaround... i'll open it in kate, then save it elsewhere & then pastebin it... that computer's browser doesn't work properly07:20
mrksbrdshould i use gparted again, but don't select a file system07:20
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intelikeyWhiz2 ok07:21
geniimrksbrd: OK. No reason it should not work then. Is it currently mounted? To make sure do:  sudo umount /media/windows07:21
geniimrksbrd: Then try again:   sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc107:21
intelikeyOkapi you can list all packages    dpkg -l      you could do a   find / -type f | grep bin/    and get all except the ones in "odd" locations07:21
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geniimrksbrd: Also make sure you do not have a console/terminal which is cd into /media/windows directory07:22
mrksbrdtells me "not mounted07:22
Okapiintelikey: Thank you07:22
ariVaelen: in my sources.list everything is uncommented.07:22
intelikeysudo umount /media/*07:23
intelikeyOkapi welcome07:23
mrksbrdsomething is weird here07:24
soulrider_damn, is ubuntuforums dead?07:24
intelikeyOkapi there are a few things in kde that the executable would be in really stupid places like   /usr/share/lib/kde/something....07:24
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Whiz2intelikey: all i get from that command is "/etc/rc2.d is a directory"07:24
Vaelenari: Was it already like that?07:24
geniimrksbrd: Do then the:   sudo mkfs.vfat -vv /dev/sdc1              and give it a minute or two to show some indication of progress or so.07:24
soulriderhello intelikey07:24
Okapiintelikey: ok, let try your suggestions07:24
intelikeyWhiz2   ls -l /etc/rc2.d         just incase i typoed07:25
soulriderintelikey, when you get some free time, could you check out a program i made?07:25
Whiz2intelikey: is that an L or a pipe?07:25
arino. i uncommented it this afternoon.07:25
intelikeyOkapi also you might want to append    2>/dev/null    to the  find command   so it doesn't flood you with error messages07:25
Vaelenari: And did you do an 'apt-get update' after that?07:25
intelikeyWhiz2 lowercase L07:26
mrksbrdis this what it was supposed to show????07:26
Whiz2then i was the one that typoed :-p07:26
geniimrksbrd: reading07:26
soulriderintelikey, if you ever have some time: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=531709 i made some minor fixes though07:26
Vaelenari: Also, do they all have the same version on them? (feisty, for example) or do some say one thing and some say another?07:26
intelikeyWhiz2 you are talking to the typo king here.   don't be surprised07:27
Vaelenari: When you updated to 7.04, the updated wouldn't have updated sources that were commented out.07:27
intelikeysoulrider i have plenty of time.    looking now.07:27
soulriderintelikey, thank you07:27
geniimrksbrd: Pretty much yes. And the drive light lit up for while and the command returned after a while to the $ ?07:27
mrksbrdi'm curious why it recognized my 4gb thumb drive w/o having to go thru all this???07:28
soulriderintelikey, i would happily take any suggestions at code level, if you know python that is07:28
arisome are still edgy.07:28
arido i change it for feisty?07:28
VaelenYes, please do.  Then do 'sudo apt-get update'07:28
intelikeysorry  i can't hiss soulrider i only sh07:29
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geniimrksbrd: There can be any number of reason, top one is usually a very cheap external enclosure for usb with obscure controller07:29
soulriderintelikey, uhm ?07:29
Whiz2aha! ssh tunneling is the bomb!07:29
Whiz2intelikey: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/34855/07:29
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intelikeyhiss like snake   python     a little livity   :)))07:29
soulrideri get it... bad joke :P07:30
arido i change this one too: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/ edgy main ?07:30
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VaelenNo, I would comment that one out.  It is probably out of date now that feisty is out.07:30
intelikeyWhiz2 ok unless someone has edited  /etc/init.d/rc.local  then  /etc/rc.local  is being ran at boot time.07:30
intelikeyWhiz2 show me the line in /etc/rc.local07:31
Whiz2intelikey: lemme check the drivethen07:31
geniimrksbrd: OK, make sure that the changes to fstab took. when you changed the file did you use kdesu kate /etc/fstab    or something like that to make sure you could save the changes?07:32
intelikeyWhiz2 heh good idea we could be dippering the wrong end of this baby...07:32
mrksbrdin gparted its telling me it is fat3207:32
Vaelenari: Once you're done with apt-get update, do a 'sudo apt-get upgrade' to upgrade any out of date packages.07:32
VaelenMake sure that Adept is closed before you run any apt-get commands.07:32
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geniimrksbrd: I didn't ask you about gparted07:33
mrksbrdgksudo command07:33
mrksbrdgenii, was just passing on the info....sorry07:33
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Whiz2intelikey: the drive is still mounted to /media/hdb1 and the line i put in /etc/rc.local is the exact line you gave me... the other line is sudo -u username vncserver -geometry 1024x76807:33
geniimrksbrd: the command sudo fdisk -l   will tell you what partition type it sees and so on, no need to rerun gparted for thet. :)07:34
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ariadept is closed but i get "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"07:34
mrksbrdhere was the command  gksudo gedit /etc/fstab07:34
mrksbrdoh ok07:34
VaelenIs aptitude still open somewhere?07:34
geniimrksbrd: Please remember that when you are in KDE to use kdesu kate /filename    and when in gnome to use gksudo gedit /filename07:34
arinot supposed to.07:35
geniimrksbrd: Something which works in either is to in a console/terminal    sudo nano /filename07:35
mrksbrdahhhhhhh...didn't know that07:35
intelikeyWhiz2 the exact line i gave you wont possably work cause there is not a user named  name  on you boxen07:35
VaelenTry the update again.07:36
Whiz2errr..... lemme check07:36
geniimrksbrd: But the hda1 was changed to sdc1 as well, auto and user were added to the option list?07:36
intelikeyWhiz2 neither is there a command called command07:36
Whiz2wrong line07:36
Whiz2intelikey: I'm talking about themount command07:36
Whiz2intelikey: the other command is made correctly using the format you gave for it07:36
arigives me the same line07:37
cassanoim following the instructions on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 will having BCMWL5.sys be fine instead of BCMWL5.inf?07:37
intelikeyWhiz2 well lets see it anyway,  just to make sure i didn't shoot us in the foot07:37
Whiz2ok lemme grab it...07:37
Whiz2intelikey: the mount line is... mount /media/hdc1/download07:38
VaelenHmm, something must be using apt.07:38
Whiz2intelikey: the other line is sudo -u jason vncserver -geometry 1024x76807:38
arii have kopete, amarok, ktorrent and firefox running...07:38
intelikeyyeah ok.    and you changed the line in fstab also    correct ?07:38
ariand konversation07:38
mrksbrdgenii, do u need me to re-paste the fstab file?07:38
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geniimrksbrd: Sure07:38
Whiz2copied n pasted that07:38
intelikeylets see it too07:38
Vaelenari: Try running this from a prompt: sudo ps -ef | grep apt07:39
Whiz2one moment...07:39
VaelenSomething might be running in the background07:39
Whiz2intelikey: it is /dev/hdb1 /media/hdc1/download auto defaults,utf8,umask=000,uid=0,gid=46,rw,user,noauto 0 007:39
intelikeyWhiz2 ok.    and the fs is vfat or ntfs ?07:40
ariari      12206     1  0 Aug23 ?        00:00:04 kopete -caption Kopete -icon kopete -miniicon kopete07:40
ariari      12219     1  2 Aug23 ?        00:03:16 ktorrent -icon ktorrent -miniicon ktorrent -caption KTorrent07:40
ariari      12943     1  0 00:23 ?        00:00:31 konversation -caption Konversation -icon konversation -miniicon konversation07:40
ariroot     13149     1  0 00:52 ?        00:00:09 aptitude07:40
Whiz2intelikey: fat32 (vfat)07:40
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Whiz2exactly the same as the other drive07:40
Vaelenari: there it is.07:40
intelikeyWhiz2 just to be sure:      grep hdb1 /proc/partitions07:40
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Vaelenari: sudo kill 1314907:41
geniimrksbrd: You need to put after the user,auto part, back in two zeros like in the entries above. Separate them with a tab.07:41
Whiz2intelikey: i know the format is the same, because I checked hdc1 in qtparted, and completely reformatted hdb1 with the same format07:41
aridone :)07:42
Vaelenari: sudo apt-get update07:42
intelikeylet me review now.07:42
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geniimrksbrd: After it's saved try once more:   sudo mount -a07:42
mrksbrdwhen i did that it dropped part of the command down to the next line is that ok??07:42
geniimrksbrd: NO07:43
mrksbrdlemme fix it07:43
Whiz2intelikey: would it help to know that in the beginning of /etc/rc.local it says that by default the file does absolutely nothing?07:43
geniimrksbrd: OK07:43
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Whiz2says to change that, i need to change the execution bit07:43
intelikeyWhiz2 that's because the only command in it by default is     exit 007:43
intelikeyWhiz2 is it not executable ?   ls -l /etc/rc.local07:44
geniimrksbrd: Regardless if this round of tactics is successful I need to leave for sleep after, it is 1:45AM and I wake for work at 7AM07:45
Whiz2intelikey: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 376 2007-08-24 01:01 /etc/rc.local07:45
intelikeyWhiz2 looked like this   didn't it  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3914607:45
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mrksbrdhere is the last msg.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34857/07:46
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intelikeyWhiz2 yeah that's executable.07:46
geniimrksbrd: Well, this is progress at least :)07:46
Whiz2intelikey: that's exactly what it looked like, except that it had one other command just above "exit 0"07:47
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Whiz2and that was the vncserver command07:47
intelikeyWhiz2 yeah it runs at boot time.   i'm on dapper too07:47
mrksbrdmy head is about to explode...i'll let u get to bed though.........thanks for all the help07:47
geniimrksbrd: I see another typo in your fstab. the word iocharset has no letter i in your entry07:47
Whiz2then why is it not working?07:47
ariVaelen: it stops at 99%07:47
geniimrksbrd: Please fix this and try again07:47
mrksbrdsame msg07:48
VaelenDoes it go back to a prompt, or is it just waiting?07:48
Whiz2intelikey: is there maybe another thingi need to edit? maybe someone edited something that disabled it?07:48
intelikeyWhiz2 try this in it.     umount /dev/hdb1 ;mount /media/hdc1/download        in place of the now present mount line07:48
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ariit is just waiting.07:49
mrksbrdshould i replace the vfat to auto???07:49
VaelenOk, that's fine then.  There is probably a lot to process.07:49
VaelenGive it a few minutes.07:49
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geniimrksbrd: put only for options then user,auto   and remove the other two options. save and retry:  sudo mount -a07:49
VaelenI'll be right back.07:50
soulriderintelikey, if you know anyone that might be interested in testing my program please let them know, i could use as much feedback as possible07:50
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intelikey:)  if that doesn't do it i just thought of a delightful hack.    Whiz2 sudo umount /media/hdb1 ;sudo rmdir /media/hdb1 && ln -s /media/hdc1/download /media/hdb1 || echo failed07:51
intelikeysoulrider k will do07:51
mrksbrdok that did something, no error msg this time, but drive still not on desktop07:51
soulriderintelikey, thanks07:51
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mrksbrdthat is the last fstab w/corrections07:52
geniimrksbrd: if command:  mmount     reports that sdc1   is mounted that is progress07:52
intelikeygenii !07:52
geniimount rather07:52
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Whiz2intelikey: save and rebooting now...07:53
mrksbrdhave to d/l the tools....give me a sec07:53
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Whiz2intelikey: if the file were executing at boot time, wouldn't the other command work?07:53
cassanocan anybody tell me what is wrong with this command07:54
cassanondiswrapper -m07:54
cassanofor conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf; do07:54
cassanosudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile07:54
intelikeyWhiz2 it is possable that kde is mounting it before rc.local is ran   that's why i mentioned the hack  which will/should solve all possable situations of such.07:54
mrksbrdUsage: mmount -V drive:07:54
intelikeyWhiz2 doesn't it ?07:54
geniimrksbrd: That is just a repot of fstab. Does the command: mount       in a terminal/console report sdc1 as a drive which is mounted?07:54
Whiz2intelikey: no i still have to run vncserver manually from ssh tunnel07:54
Whiz2intelikey: I'mdoing every bit of this remotely07:55
intelikeyWhiz2 if you really doubt it's execution at boot time   put a line     touch /testing   in it   then if the blank file testing appears it's working if not then no.07:55
Whiz2using ssh tunneling, and vncserver07:55
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Vaelenari: Ok, I'm back07:55
mrksbrdlol....sorry genii07:55
Whiz2intelikey: is this supposed to run when the user's desktop loads??????07:55
geniimrksbrd: Good, it is formatted and mounts correctly now07:56
ariand i'm still wainting for this update.07:56
intelikeyWhiz2 it's supposed to run when the computer startes whether you login in or not07:56
Whiz2intelikey: then how would a test file open?;-)07:56
aribut adept appeared to tell me i have 44 packages that need updating...07:56
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intelikeyopen ?07:56
intelikeytouch /testing    will creat  /testing07:57
Whiz2oh ok07:57
intelikeyman touch07:57
mrksbrdgenii,if this is going to take alot more time, i'll be nice & let u get to bed07:57
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geniimrksbrd: Now do in console:    umount /media/windows    then after that:   sudo eject /dev/sdc1            then turn off the usb drive. Let it power doen. then power it back on.07:58
VaelenLooks like it's working then.07:58
intelikeywheres stdin today ?07:59
geniimrksbrd: Let me know if you get a popup after you power it back on afterwards07:59
tarntowi m always having the sound suddenly disappearing...apart from restarting...is there something else that can be done to rectify the problem...it does happen a lot....thank you07:59
mrksbrdno popup07:59
Whiz2intelikey: this time the drive wasn'tmounted at all08:00
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Vaelenari: is it still at 99%?08:00
geniimrksbrd: OK.does command:     mount           show sdc1 again or not?08:00
intelikeyWhiz2 i suspect that  /download   doesn't appear in the fs on /dev/hdc108:00
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VaelenOk, kill it with Ctrl+C and run it again08:01
mrksbrddidn't see it08:01
intelikeyWhiz2 case sensitive08:01
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Whiz2i will double check08:01
mrksbrdshowing sdb108:02
geniimrksbrd: OK.08:02
Whiz2intelikey: /media/hdc1/download exists08:02
ariand then sudo apt-get upgrade ?08:03
geniimrksbrd: OK. Something is weird but UI need to sleep :( If you are here tomorrow we can carry on. Or maybe another can assist08:03
mrksbrdok that is fine....thanks a bunch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!08:03
geniimrksbrd: Good night :)08:04
intelikeyWhiz2 issue the command there    mount /media/hdc1/download08:04
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geniinight all, intelikey stdin et al08:04
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intelikeyWhiz2 ???08:05
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Vaelenari: When apt-get upgrade lists the packages that will be updated, look for libxine-extracodecs in there.08:06
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Whiz2intelikey: maybe I'm lookingin the wrong place... what is the command to see what is mounted where?08:06
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intelikeyWhiz2   mount08:07
ariamarok amarok-xine gnupg gpgv kaffeine kaffeine-xine kate kcontrol08:07
ari  kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kdepasswd kdeprint kdesktop kdm08:07
ari  kexi kfind khelpcenter kicker klipper kmenuedit koffice-data koffice-libs08:07
ari  konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole krita krita-data ksmserver ksplash08:07
ari  ksysguard ksysguardd ktorrent kwin lftp libhal-storage1 libhal1 libkonq408:07
ari  libqt4-core libqt4-gui libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql08:07
NickPresta!pastebin | ari08:07
ubotuari: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:07
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intelikeycat /proc/mounts08:07
intelikeyless /etc/mtab08:07
Vaelenari: Go ahead an update those and hopefully that will do it for you.08:07
intelikeyWhiz2 ???08:08
Whiz2that says it's mounted where it should be after imounted myself..08:08
intelikeyyou ran   mount /medi...    and now it's mountd ?\08:08
Whiz2hang on a sec08:08
Vaelenari: It looks like it'll update xine, which might be why the extracodecs package doesn't work.  After it finishes updating, do a 'sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs' to make sure that it got installed ok.08:09
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intelikeyWhiz2 what i wanted to know was if issuing the    mount /media/hdc1/download      command gave any output ?08:10
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Whiz2just mounted it08:10
intelikeythen it looks like you may need to test your rc.local   it may not be running at boot08:11
Whiz2I've added touch /test to the rc.local file, and changed the command back to just the regular mount command08:11
Whiz2saved, and rebooting now...08:11
aritells me that "libxine1-ffmpeg" is the new one i should install08:11
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VaelenOk, cool.08:11
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VaelenThen install that instead. :)08:12
intelikeyok   and did / does the  "/testing"  file exist ?    that will be the question.08:12
Whiz2i will know soon as it boots up,and I login from here08:12
ariis it supposed to work now ?08:12
intelikeyyes i stand under you.08:13
VaelenEverything got updated and installed?08:13
ariAAAAAAH IT WORKS !!!08:13
VaelenSweet. :)08:13
intelikeyis not what means "understand"  ?08:13
Whiz2yes i knew what you meant :-p08:13
arithought i'd never play mp3s again !!!08:13
Whiz2lol ari08:13
ariwow thank you so muck Vaelen08:14
Whiz2that's one thing I don't use linux for08:14
VaelenSo the problem was that the multiverse source was commented out when you did the upgrade, so the upgrader didn't know to point it to feisty.08:14
VaelenNo problem, ari. :) Glad to get it working! Amarok is an awesome program.08:14
arii'm so glad. it works !!! i thought i fucked something during the installation and i feared that i would have to start over...08:15
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Whiz2intelikey: accounding to mount, hdb1 is mounted correctly as /media/hdc1/download i'm looking to see if /test appeared08:16
intelikeyi'm going to say yes   /testing exists.08:17
VaelenThe upgrade to 7.10 should be smoother for you now that all the apt sources are active for you.08:17
Whiz2it's not there08:17
intelikeysnoth there ?08:17
intelikeymessed that up didn't is08:18
Vaelen(once it is finalized, that is)08:18
intelikeysnot there ?08:18
Whiz2snoth... kinda like a sloth only with an n instead of an l hehe08:18
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arii think i'm going to go sleep now if i want to look alive tomorrow when i'll go work ^^08:19
Whiz2intelikey: /test does not exist08:19
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intelikeyls /08:19
Vaelenhaha, me too08:19
Whiz2i did that, and it wasn't in the ls08:19
arithank you so much, good night08:19
intelikeyWhiz2 ls /      you sure ?08:19
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Whiz2hang on i'll paste here...08:20
intelikeydon't flood08:20
Whiz2i'll pastebin08:20
intelikeyshouldn't be but two lines..    just being cautious08:20
Whiz2jason@home:~$ ls /08:21
Whiz2bin   etc     initrd.img      lost+found  opt   sbin  tmp  vmlinuz08:21
Whiz2boot  home    initrd.img.old  media       proc  srv   usr  vmlinuz.old08:21
Whiz2dev   initrd  lib             mnt         root  sys   var08:21
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intelikeyyou right.     snot there.08:21
Whiz2which means...?08:22
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intelikeyWhiz2 want me to see what's wrong with  /etc/init.d/rc.local     ?    or abort08:22
Whiz2how do I get that file to output it's contents in a konsole?08:22
Whiz2I'mtired of all the working around to get it08:22
intelikeyyou'll have to pastebin   cat /etc/init.d/rc.local       and the output of   ls -l /etc/init.d/rc.local08:23
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intelikeyi'm pretty sure this one is still default...   so i'll have something to compare to.08:23
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intelikeyyeah i can tell i haven't edited this one by this string.           if [ -x /etc/rc.local ] ; then        <<<< that's not my syntax.08:25
contrast83Greets, everyone...08:25
contrast83Has anyone here had any success compiling Fusion from GIT on Gutsy?08:26
intelikeymaybe ask in the gutsy chan ?    /join #kubuntu+108:26
intelikeyor /join #ubuntu+108:26
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contrast83intelikey: Thanks08:28
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Whiz2intelikey: pastebin is not cooperating08:29
Whiz2i can'tget the page up08:29
Whiz2to paste into in the first place08:29
intelikeyWhiz2 lets go in reverse.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39147   and chmod it to 75508:30
Whiz2hang on...08:30
intelikeyi know it works correctly08:30
Whiz2what's the current URL for pastebin?08:30
Whiz2i think i have an old one that's not working correctly08:30
intelikeyi like the http://ubuntu.pastebin.us08:30
intelikeybut it's not the one listed in the topic08:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:31
KhrajinHow big is a full install of Kubuntu fiesty?08:32
Whiz2that is the URL that fails right now08:32
Whiz2in the one you gave me, what syntax highlighting do i select from the menu?08:32
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39148 that one is working08:32
Whiz2"text only" ain't therelol08:33
intelikeyyes text is fine08:33
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intelikeyor shell script08:33
intelikeyi don't care what highlighting.08:34
Whiz2here is the output you requested... http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3914908:34
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intelikeypick your take08:34
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Whiz2and i have no idea what you have me looking at with that last URL you gave08:34
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Whiz2err...nm i know what it is08:35
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intelikeynow bull.    unless something is hanging before it's finished booting     that will run and run correctly.08:35
Whiz2someone else was messing with my scripts before in an attempt to fix something...  I wouldn't be surprised if they screwed it up08:36
intelikeyi'd look for a hung init script08:36
intelikeyps -A x | grep sh08:36
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intelikeyamong the output should be the culpret08:37
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intelikeyor pstree08:37
Whiz2want it here? it's only a fewlines08:38
intelikeynot more than two08:38
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Whiz2should fit in one message ;-)08:38
Whiz2   87 ?        00:00:00 pdflush08:38
Whiz2   88 ?        00:00:00 pdflush08:38
Whiz2 2967 ?        00:00:00 shpchpd_event08:38
Whiz2 4402 ?        00:00:00 sshd08:38
Whiz2 4992 ?        00:00:00 sshd08:38
Whiz2 4995 pts/0    00:00:00 bash08:38
Whiz2 5057 ?        00:00:00 ssh-agent08:38
intelikeythe opps sometimes lurk and .....    hmmm08:38
Whiz2ok pstree would need a pastebin08:39
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intelikeyWhiz2 what file were they working on ?08:40
Whiz2i think they created one in /etc/init.d08:41
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Khrajinanyone good with hardware?08:52
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Ben_Csi installed enemy territory. if i want to remove it - i just delete the installation dir, or there's a better way?08:54
flaccidwhere did you d/l it from and how did you install it08:55
Ben_Csi don't remember where i downloaded it from. it's a .run file. installed it through: sh *.run08:56
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flaccidi just confirmed it is only 1 directory plus your ~/.etwolf08:56
flaccidso yeah just remove the dir and optionally remove your ~/.etwolf (loose d/l levels)08:57
phayzhas anyone here installed the 'artwiz' fonts?08:58
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phayzi've installed them but they're not accessible to kde :(  ??08:58
Ben_Csflaccid: ok, thanks08:58
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer08:59
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flaccidsee above, phayz08:59
phayzflaccid: thanks.  i've already read quite a bit but am more than willing to read more.08:59
flaccidif they are installed properly to the font cache as above, they will be accessible on restart of X server09:00
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flaccidme has to go into windows dang09:01
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alex_does any one in here know how i can get kubuntu to access a hard drive that is pluged into a apple airport extreme?09:07
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ryan8403where should I be for gutsy kubuntu support?09:10
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krauthi intelikey09:13
intelikeyryan8403 either ubuntu+1 or kubuntu+1    with # of course09:13
ryan8403intelikey thanks09:14
ryan8403that's what I thought but just makin' sure09:14
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combohow to install java runtime environment ?09:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:18
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.09:18
combointelikey: thanks09:19
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intelikey!root > Whiz209:31
sauvin!root > sauvin09:32
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Tabmowsis ntfs partitions stable enough to mount rw ?09:35
intelikeyWhiz2 edit the file in the autostart dir and before the vnc command   add     xhost +LOCAL:09:35
Tabmowswell, to write to i mean09:35
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:36
ubotuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems09:36
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Assidmac uses ntfs?!?!?09:36
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions09:36
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Tabmowsintelikey, thanks.09:41
intelikeyTabmows welcome09:42
Tabmowsi think that help.ubuntu.com website is down however... but ill bookmark it for later ;oP09:42
jtongcan someone help me recover my raid?09:42
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Whiz2sorry i know absolutely nothing about raid09:43
Tabmowsintelikey, that link has https:// which doesn't seem to work - normal http works fine however09:43
Tabmowsintelikey, and i meant can we write to ntfs volumes over the network... ntfs-3g seems to be for local ntfs partitions only?09:44
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Whiz2Tabmows: mine can09:45
Whiz2using ntfs-3g09:45
TabmowsWhiz2, ok cool... ill check it out09:45
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Whiz2what exactly are you attempting to do?09:45
Tabmowsmount a ntfs filesystem from another computer on my network read/write so I can write to it09:46
Whiz2is the computer that has the NTFS partition running windows, or Linux?09:47
intelikeyTabmows if it's safe locally there it's safe over the network   i. e.  it's the local machine that ultimatly does the writing09:47
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TabmowsWhiz2, windows09:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:48
Tabmowsintelikey, so... i mount it an an smb volume? and then use that mountpoint with ntfs-3g for write mode?09:48
adeniciostdin:  wa is python?09:48
Whiz2if the network PC is running windows, you shouldn't have to mount it... just share the root of the drive, and in kubuntu go to your remote places in system, and into samba shares... you should see it there09:49
Tabmowsadenicio, a scripting language09:49
adeniciois it me or does linux download faster09:51
NickPrestait isn't _a_ "scripting language", it's _the_ "scripting language" ;)09:51
jtonghi, i have a disk set to type linux raid auto but somehow it changed to ext3 after a crash and i can no longer mount09:51
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Whiz2jtong: try changing it back by editing that line in your fstab09:52
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TabmowsWhiz2, i see it, but it is really slow if I don't mount it properly...09:52
Whiz2then reboot, and check again09:52
intelikeyNickPresta say that in #perl09:52
Whiz2Tabmows: i dunno... i never had to mount mine09:52
jtongWhiz2: ok so i force to mount it as linux raid auto?09:52
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Whiz2jtong: yes09:53
jtongWhiz2: alright09:53
NickPrestaintelikey, I would but I wouldn't be able to read any responses ;)09:53
TabmowsWhiz2, can you write to them?09:53
intelikeyNickPresta not make any more comments in there lol09:53
Whiz2Tabmow: what version of windows are you using?09:53
afiestasi'm reading in networkmanager site, thats don't will be available for (k)ubuntu feature freeze, and i think... in gutsy, i will can use a wpa + static ip? an ad-hoc networks?09:53
Whiz2Tabmows: when you share the drive, you have to tell windows to allows users to change files09:54
afiestasi don't found anythings in forums/wiki09:54
TabmowsWhiz2, yes i know that... i can write to it now, but it transfers at like 500kb/sec.. that really sucks ehehe09:54
Tabmowsit's connected at 48mbps via the wireless as well...09:55
Whiz2Tabmow: makes no sense to me... you should be able to write to it like any other networked storage device09:55
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Tabmowsanyone + google == windows guru ;oP09:56
Tabmowslinux not so much ehehe09:56
Whiz2as it is,i'm having a major issue with my linux server that is aggravating me09:56
Whiz2i don't need google for windows :-p09:57
Whiz2I've got 14 years of hand on experience09:57
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Whiz2never once had to google a widows question lol09:57
NickPrestaIt's 4am. I should sleep. Goodnight #kubuntu.09:57
jtongWhiz2: i tried to mount my raid /dev/md0 as reiserfs but get a bad superblock error09:58
martijn_nerdayone tried strigi here?09:59
Whiz2jtong: I'm sorry, but this is out of my league... I know nothing about raid, and my experience with mounting any drive is limited.09:59
jtongalright Whiz2 thanks09:59
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jtongyeah it's my first raid setup too and worked for two weeks then my box crashed and stopped working after reboot09:59
Whiz2I'd be better off going and sitting in the windows xp channellol10:00
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Whiz2my advice would be to edit your fstab to what it was before the crash10:00
adenicioi install real player but the video on the website for streamin doesnt play in real player.how do i change it to play with real player?10:00
jtongi've never change my fstab though10:00
niteshinstalled Kooldock 0.3, However, dont know how to activate/use it. my panel is still the same as it used to be. Adept_Manager shows KoolDock is installed10:00
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:00
Whiz2how did you manage to mount it correctly before?10:00
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jtongjust use auto since it was a reiserfs10:01
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Whiz2jtong: try the mount command /dev/drive /directoryname auto10:02
jtongWhiz2: same error10:03
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Whiz2jtong: sorry i can't help you further10:04
jtongWhiz2: ok, thanks10:04
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combo- how to make ntfs windows partion (hda1) writable?10:05
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Cewlenghow to connect mobile phone?10:05
niteshthe KDM login page does not fit my screen... used different themes but the same result10:05
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adenicioi install real player but the video on the website for streamin doesnt play in real player.how do i change it to play with real player?10:06
Blauhauthow to restart kubuntu without restaring computet ?10:06
comboBlauhaut: ALT+CTRL+BACKSPACE10:06
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combo- how to make ntfs windows partion (hda1) writable? any ideas? :] 10:08
Whiz2install ntfs-3g10:08
comboWhiz2: thx10:08
Blauhautwhere can i find the default sources.list ?10:08
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comboBlauhaut: if u didn't make a back up of /etc/apt/sources.list there is no default file :}10:10
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Blauhautcombo; i am looking for the sources.list which is come with ubuntu installination10:10
Cewlengwith ntfs configuration, I can writable in ntfs windows partition10:11
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comboBlauhaut: so iduno10:12
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Cewlengdownload ntfs-config in www.debian.com10:15
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zhanI've a strange question about kubuntu... some charecters can't displayed in konversation, konqueror ,konsole,...etc10:16
zhanlike 10:17
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zhanbut in  gvim, pidgin, these charecters are just displayed normally10:18
Cewlengcan help me? how to i find driver for motorola phone10:18
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combo- i had 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g' and reboot my system but ntfs windows partition is still unwritable? :S10:48
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combocan somebody help? pls! :/10:53
SlimeyPeteuse the configurator10:55
SlimeyPeteinstall ntfs-config10:55
SlimeyPeteand then run it - it'll pop up a window allowing you to enable write support10:56
SlimeyPetecombo: ^^10:56
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combook! i'll try that!10:56
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comboSlimeyPete: everything works now! thanks a lot ;)11:00
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SlimeyPeteno problem :)11:00
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crazy_penguinafter todays morning upgrade is kate working? would somebody be so kind and try and see if it works and reply to me. thank you11:05
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niteshinstalled Kooldock 0.3, However, dont know how to activate/use it. my panel is still the same as it used to be. Adept_Manager shows KoolDock is installed11:12
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elias85i ve downloaded some rar files.how can i unrar them all so ill get 1 file?11:32
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crazy_penguinelias85: are those files (the original ones, unarchived ones) splitted across several rar files?11:41
crazy_penguinyou want to reconstruct the unarchived file?11:41
ubuntuI need some help11:42
crazy_penguinif you do then put the files into one folder and use the unrara app to unrara the first that has teh extesion .rar it will look for the others automatically11:42
crazy_penguinubuntu: don't say that you need help11:42
crazy_penguinask what you need11:42
crazy_penguinwhat is the problem?11:43
ubuntubut I do...I'm just thinking of how best to ask11:43
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crazy_penguinto put it shortly ask11:43
crazy_penguinand we will see11:43
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ubuntuwell...I was trying out the dual monitors feature in feisty, and I inadvertently changed some of the hardware settings in the "Monitor and Display" menu11:44
ubuntulong story short, when I boot the machine,  it goes through the kubuntu progress bar, then all I get is a black screen with a flashing cursor11:45
ubuntuin recovery mode I can't startx or kdm11:46
ubuntuI am thoroughly stumped11:46
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ubuntuis there any way that I can boot into what I already have installed with an install disk or something to fix the settings that I changed?11:47
crazy_penguinubuntu: go into recovery mode11:48
crazy_penguinand type the following11:48
crazy_penguindpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:48
crazy_penguinbut before that11:48
crazy_penguinmake a copy of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file11:48
crazy_penguinthat should solve the problem11:48
crazy_penguinand don't reuse those values from xorg.conf11:49
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ubuntuI tried that earlier11:49
crazy_penguinafter making teh copy i advise you to delete11:49
crazy_penguinett /s/teh/the/g11:49
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alex_New question for people, got a laptop with Fn key11:51
alex_I can't seem to be able to use it anymore11:51
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ubuntuI've been at this for several hours now...I tried the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but I didn't save the xorg.conf first11:51
alex_Is there a way of being able to Fn key for sound and other settings11:52
Whiz2i've been at my problem for several months, and no one can seem to help... I'm giving up11:52
alex_What is it?11:53
SlimeyPetealex_: not usually, as those keys often require special keyboard drivers.11:53
alex_ok, just wondering...11:53
SlimeyPetemight be worth googling around a bit though to see if tere's a way to make them work on your particular keyboard11:53
Whiz2oh nothing too difficult.. just trying to get a program to run before KDE does, but with my credentials, and myenvironment11:53
alex_Ok cheers11:54
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Whiz2problem is thateverything I've tried has totally failed, and I've been at this since February11:54
alex_Whiz2: Have you tried going into your boot settings and look around there for boot orders and whatnot11:55
ubuntuis the system settings monitor and display option directly connected to xorg.conf?11:55
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: shove a script in /etc/init.d11:55
Whiz2SlimeyPete: tried that, and failed11:55
Whiz2it wouldn't even run11:55
Whiz2not even as a system service11:56
SlimeyPetedid you +x it?11:56
Whiz2not to mention... even if I did get the script to run in the first place, i don't even know the command to get it to run as ME11:56
alex_Have you tried having your program into a folder and in the system bios running a particular folder then the OS11:56
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: su -c command user11:57
SlimeyPete(put quotes around the command if nessary)11:57
Whiz2would it show up in the system services list if it wasn'texecutable?11:57
SlimeyPeteerm... not sure tbh11:58
Whiz2andI've tried adding a line like what you just gave me to the rc.local script, and it failed to tun11:58
Whiz2rc.local ran, but that particular command refused11:58
SlimeyPeteany particular error?11:58
Whiz2every other line in rc.localran11:58
ubuntuwhat if I just wrote down the xorg.conf monitor and screen settings froma  live cd and then replaced any inconsistencies in recovery mode?11:59
SlimeyPeteand you were running the rc.local as root?11:59
ubuntuwould that work maybe?11:59
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Whiz2rc.local runs however it runs11:59
SlimeyPeteubuntu: probably11:59
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: what command is it, ooi?11:59
Whiz2it runs at boot time,i'm not gonna execute it manaually11:59
ubuntuI'll give it a try11:59
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Whiz2the command i typeto run theprogram manually is vncserver -geometry 1024x76812:00
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SlimeyPeteWhiz2: erm, that probably won't work until X is loaded12:00
Whiz2i have to run it from tty logged in as me...12:00
Whiz2i can run it from a console before the desktop loads12:00
SlimeyPetebefore the login manager loads, or before kde loads?12:01
SlimeyPeteif the login manager's up then X is already running12:01
Whiz2that'snothelping me12:01
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Whiz2i just need to know how to get it to run automatically12:02
SlimeyPeteI'd check into the concept of xsessions if I where you12:02
Whiz2no script seems to run it12:02
SlimeyPetean xsession file is a script which the login manager uses to load (eg) KDE12:02
Whiz2is creates an X session12:02
SlimeyPetemaybe if yo append to the script...12:02
Whiz2aka Desktop 112:03
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SlimeyPetecan't remember where they're kept, though :/12:03
Whiz2when i run it, it is the same as logging into my desktop from thelogin screen12:03
SlimeyPeteah right, yes, that'll be the one then12:03
_Shade_is there any qt-based jabber client other than kopete?12:03
Whiz2except that it is completelyvirtual ;-)12:03
SlimeyPetewell, mebbe12:04
Whiz2so i have to look into xsessions?12:04
_Shade_kopete acts very unpredictable for me12:04
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: yeah, I would12:04
SlimeyPeteI can't guarantee it'll work but it might12:05
_Shade_so is there any kopete substitute eh?12:05
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: aha! /usr/share/xsessions12:06
SlimeyPeteedit kde.desktop12:06
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SlimeyPeteadd your command to the end of it12:06
Whiz2are you serious???12:06
SlimeyPeteI think that'll work12:06
SlimeyPete(never tried, but it's worth a go)12:06
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Whiz2can i call you a genius if this works???12:07
SlimeyPeteyes, and you may curse my name if it doesn't12:07
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Whiz2how can I edit that? with any text editor?12:08
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SlimeyPeteyeah. You'll need oot privs though so "kdesu kate /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop" should do it12:09
SlimeyPeteerm, root12:09
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yeniklasorrI cannot mix microfon and "idjc" player voice. Can someone help me ?12:09
Whiz2i got a way to get root priv without going through allthat... cuz I'm slick like that :-p12:09
SlimeyPeteheh :)12:09
Whiz2i have a icon that runs konqueror as root, then just right click any file, and open with kate :-D12:10
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Assidi dont get it12:10
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SlimeyPetea bit insecure, but handy nonetheless ;)12:11
SlimeyPeteAssid: ?12:11
Assidhow does isync on mac is able to synchronise with a nokia phone but we cant12:11
Whiz2i'm the only one that ever gets access to my desktop to use that12:11
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Whiz2if i put this in a pastebin,and give the URL could you tell me what to do?12:11
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SlimeyPeteWhiz2: literally just append your command to the end12:12
SlimeyPetejust whack it on the last line of the file12:12
Whiz2it's not commands tho... hmmm... ok12:12
SlimeyPetehrm, hang on12:12
Whiz2do you know the command to make it run as me, instead of root?12:12
the-ermI sudo passwd, change the password, added this line to ~/.bashrc xhost +local:$DISPLAY now I can su and run any app that runs in x no problem.12:12
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Assidhasnt anyone managed to synch their phones?12:12
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SlimeyPeteWhiz2: the kde.desktop file should get executed as you anyway12:13
Whiz2nono i have to be logged into tty as me in order to do it... it relies on my environment (home dir)12:13
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Whiz2while sitting at the KDE login screen, i can switch to console, login to console as me (without logging into kde) type the command, and bingo! it runs... however, if it runs as root, then it's completely useless12:15
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: erm, not sure. Let me do a bit more research, hang on.12:15
the-ermWhiz2: I sorta just walked in, what are you trying to do?12:16
Whiz2trying to get vncserver to run on startup as me... it creates an X desktop based on my credentials, and my environment without me having to login to the KDE desktop at the keys12:17
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: aha, I was getting mixed up.You need to put the command on the end of /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession12:17
SlimeyPetefrom what I read, it should pick up your environment12:17
SlimeyPetethat seems to be implied, anyway12:17
SlimeyPeteonly way to find out for sure is to try it ;)12:17
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Whiz2by all logic, it won't just pick it up12:18
SlimeyPetewell, try it and see?12:19
Whiz2because when I run it, I have to be logged into console as me12:19
SlimeyPetecan't hurt...12:19
Whiz2where to i whack it in?12:19
alexnicolLooking for some help with a Laserjet 100012:19
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SlimeyPeteWhiz2: at the end. Actually, you could try putting an "EXPORT HOME=/home/yourusername/" at the front12:19
the-ermWhiz2: have you tried anything with Xvfb?12:19
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SlimeyPeteso one line with the EXPORT on, the next with the command12:20
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SlimeyPeteoops, shove it *before* the xsession line at the end12:20
Whiz2what is Xvfb???12:20
SlimeyPetejust for safety12:20
Assidi cant connect to my cell12:20
the-ermWhiz2: Xvfb allows you to start applications in an x environment, but without a screen.  Is that what you want?12:21
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AlexNicolSlimeyPete - Know anything about Samba networked printers?12:22
Whiz2the-erm: i'm trying to run vncserver which *creates* an X Session that i can login to remotely.12:22
the-ermsample: nohup /usr/X11R6/bin/Xvfb :25 -screen 2 800x600x16 & export DISPLAY=":25"; soffice "-accept=socket,host=localhost,port=2002;urp;"12:22
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Whiz2vncserver doesthat12:23
the-ermWhiz2: ok hang on let me play with something, and see if I can get this thing to go.12:23
Whiz2i don't need something else to do that,i just need to start vncserver automatically as me12:23
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Whiz2SlimeyPete: after carefully analyzing Xsession, and the way vncserver starts...that won't work12:26
Whiz2vncserver cals Xsession, so tacking it into the end of xsession would run it as an endless loop12:26
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: there is another XSession in /etc/X1112:28
SlimeyPeteyou su it isn't running that?12:28
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Whiz2hang on... i'm making a pastebin of vncserver's output to console12:28
Whiz2either way it doesn't matter, because it calls xsession after i execute the program12:29
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: yeah, different xsession12:29
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SlimeyPetethere's one that's run by kde, vncserver is running a different one12:30
SlimeyPeteso I t12:30
SlimeyPeteso I think the approach will still work12:30
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Whiz2logic says otherwise12:30
SlimeyPeteyou won't get stuck in a loop ;)12:30
SlimeyPetetwo completel different files, which do different things12:30
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Whiz2because vncservercalls Xsession AFTER it is executed12:31
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: I know. *different* xsession.12:31
SlimeyPetethere are two12:31
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Whiz2that's not the point12:31
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: yes it is.12:31
ubuntuthat didn't change a thing12:31
SlimeyPeteI don't understand your objection12:31
Whiz2ok...think of it like this...12:32
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SlimeyPetekdm will run its xsession file. That will ran vncerver. vncserver will run a *different* xsession too.12:32
enoj_Hi guys. I recently reinstalled kubuntu 7.04 on my desktop computer. When I try to connect to any SSH sites, it takes several seconds to make a connection. The pastebin from ssh -vvv is here: http://pastebin.com/de5375b8 - in hangs on about line 46 .. any ideas?12:32
SlimeyPeteno problem. BOth files get executed, but there's no conflict.12:32
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Whiz2ina windows batch file... if you have the file call another batch file, then tacking the same commandonto the end of the file won'tdo any good,because it it doesn't run first12:32
ubuntuany way I can change the system settings monitor and display from terminal...?12:32
Whiz2you're right that it runs either way... but... xsession doesn't run until after theprogram is executed12:34
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Whiz2the program runs the xsession... but you have to run the program or the session never starts12:34
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SlimeyPeteWhiz2: I think you;re getting confused. Gimme a minute to type this out...12:35
combo- if i want to have a drivers for my ATI Radeon 9600 then i should install AIGLX or GLX (i need these drivers only for screensaver and playing game sometimes; no beryl-like something)12:35
combo** i mean AIGLX or XGL ;P12:35
Whiz2vncserver creates the X desktop based on parameters set in Xsession... Xsession is more like an INI file in windows that aprogram would read from12:36
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: Step 1: KDM runs /usr/share/kdm/Xsession. Step 2: /usr/share/kdm/Xsession runs vncserver. Step 3: vncserver runs /etc/X11/xsession.    -  all files and programs are executed, one after another.12:36
psyhhixwich takes less resource: xfce or kde ?12:36
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Whiz2wouldn't that require KDE?12:37
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: nope.12:37
the-ermYippie I got it to work.12:37
SlimeyPeteonly X12:37
SlimeyPeteand X will already be running :)12:38
Whiz2the-erm: what did you get to work?12:38
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: I still reckon it'll work. Imay be wrong :) The only way to find out is to try it and see. Can't hurt.12:38
the-ermnohup /usr/X11R6/bin/Xvfb :25 -screen 2 800x600x16 &  export DISPLAY=":25"; vncserver # that does it.12:38
the-ermWith just X.12:39
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the-ermPay attention to what port it's setting the server up on.12:39
Whiz2will thatrun it with my credentials?12:39
Whiz2vncserver'sport is already set12:39
ubuntuany other ideas on my problem?12:39
Whiz2now... how do I actually do that?12:39
Whiz2and i want the screen at 1024x76812:40
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w0t-awi installed kubuntu 7.04 from a livecd, but my hdd won't boot. what might be the problem? :o12:41
w0t-awinstall claimed to be successful.12:41
Whiz2the-erm: how do i actually do that?12:45
Whiz2just that line is useless unless i know whereto put it12:45
ubuntuthis is a little frustrating12:47
ubuntuI know what I want...just not how to ask12:47
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:47
Whiz2ok so I'm halfway there...12:48
Whiz2i have theline,but no idea where to stick it12:48
ubuntuand just as I was reaching the brink of insanity...a little comic relief shows up12:48
Whiz2nohup /usr/X11R6/bin/Xvfb :25 -screen 2 800x600x16 &  export DISPLAY=":25"; vncserver # <-- where does that line go?12:49
runlevelten^Ignore the patronising bits, as esr is a bit of a numpty sometimes, but on the whole it's useful to read that.12:49
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combocan't remove fglrx - cuz it is in use?! so how can i install AIGLX?!12:50
Whiz2can i put it in my /etc/rc.local file to run?12:50
grultr killing x12:50
Whiz2i don't need to kill x12:50
combogrul: how to ? :] 12:50
ubuntuI can't even start x12:50
Whiz2oh you're not talking ot me12:50
SlimeyPetecombo: sudo etc/init.d/kdm stop   to kill X12:50
SlimeyPetewell, that'll kill kdm12:51
comboSlimeyPete: thx12:51
SlimeyPeteou may needto hit ctrl-alt-backspacetokill X12:51
ubuntucan't start kdm either12:51
SlimeyPeteubuntu: sounds like you have a prbem with your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file12:51
comboSlimeyPete: command not found ( ?! )12:51
SlimeyPetecombo: O.o12:52
SlimeyPeteyou're running kubuntu, yeah?12:52
Whiz2so many months.... now I'm sooooo close! more 7 more frustrating....12:52
comboSlimeyPete: yeah12:52
ubuntuI tried the dpkg-reconfigure and manually editing xorg.conf12:52
comboSlimeyPete: but as i remember i've removed some packages12:52
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comboALREADY :/12:52
SlimeyPetecombo: try "sudo sh" instead of just sudo12:52
ubuntustill only blinking cursor after kubuntu boots12:52
comboso maybe this is the reason12:52
Whiz2the-erm: are you even here anymore?12:52
comboSlimeyPete: 'can't open' this time12:53
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the-ermWhiz2: Ya, I'm just trying to figure out *how* to get apps to run.12:53
SlimeyPetecombo: oh dear :/12:53
the-ermI've gotten startkde to work, but it seems to freeze.12:53
the-ermI'm playing around with just running kate now.12:53
comboSlimeyPete: is this matter that before i made: 'sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx; sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri' ? :] 12:53
Whiz2would it help to know that the command I run from tty to start the program is literally "vncserver -geometry 1024x768" without the quotes?12:54
ubuntuI went to system settings and then to monitor and display...hardware tab and changed monitor 1 from default1 do something else...12:54
SlimeyPetecombo: that shouldn't get rid of kdm12:54
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ubuntucustom1 I mean12:54
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Whiz2the-erm: once I start vncserver, and use it to login to my desktop, I can do anything I could do if I were sitting at my keyboard12:54
comboSlimeyPete: i screw my system cuz i've tried install this stupid ATI AIGLX drivers! AAAAAAArrrggggggghhhhh!! :[12:55
SlimeyPeteyeah, the ATI drivers suck12:55
Whiz2don't have to figure out how to run anything... I'm thinking you might be confused as to what I'm trying to do12:55
SlimeyPetethey're awful.12:55
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ubuntuany way I can fix this from terminal mode...dpkg-reconfigure does not work...are these settings in xorg.conf or are they saved elsewhere?12:55
comboSlimeyPete: what do u order to do now ? any ideas? :D12:55
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the-ermWhiz2: what program are you trying to run inside of X through vnc?12:56
ubuntusuch as: can I fix this from a live cd or terminal?12:56
Whiz2here is what I'mtrying to do...12:56
AbnaxosHi there!12:57
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AbnaxosI just did that minor KDE upgrade of today ... now, after logging in, the keyboard won't work anymore. :(12:58
AbnaxosIs this a known problem?12:58
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SlimeyPetecombo: you could try "telinit 1" to enter single-ur mode (save all your work first!!)12:58
SlimeyPetethat should kill X as far as I remember12:58
Whiz2When kubuntu boots up, i let it go to the kde login screen, but i never actually login... from there, I ssh into the machine, login to the console as my user, then run the command "vncserver -geometry  1024x768" (without the quotes) ... then it loads my desktop session, and i can vnc right to my desktop... I want vncserver to load like that automatically12:58
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comboSlimeyPete: i decided to try install XGL this time from beggining12:58
combomaybe this time it will wokr12:58
SlimeyPetefingers crossed :)12:59
comboi'm too lame to try something with commands like these :] 12:59
Whiz2that is what I'm trying to do12:59
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yeniklasorrI cannot mix microfon and "idjc" player voice. Can someone help me ?12:59
ubuntucan I do some sort of reinstall but still keep all my installed programs and saved files?12:59
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Whiz2all I want is for vncserver to run as me, including my environment (home dir) every time the computer boots up, so that I don't have to go through all that12:59
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ubuntuor perhaps uninstall and then reinstall kde?01:00
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Whiz2there has to be a way to do it01:02
ubuntuthat's what I01:02
ubuntu'm saying01:02
Whiz2yeah, but yours is somethihng totallydifferent01:02
ubuntutrue...still...there must be a way01:02
Whiz2mine should be simple... but nooooo.....01:02
ubuntuI refuse to believe that it's impossible01:03
Whiz2and tacking the command into Xsession i think isn't the way01:03
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AbnaxosNo ideas?01:03
SlimeyPeteI still think you should give it a go. It'll only take a moment to try it ;p01:03
AbnaxosI'm at work and just installed what looked like a minor security upgrade.01:03
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Whiz2Xsession is only parameters01:03
AbnaxosIt's a bit hard to work without keyboard ...01:04
naorhi guys01:04
naori need help01:04
comboif i made those four commands :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34877/ :: is XGL driver installed on my ATI ? :}01:04
naorwhen i press shutdown the pc doesnt shutdown01:04
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: /usr/share/kdm/Xsession isn't.01:04
SlimeyPetekde.desktop is01:04
SlimeyPetethe Xsession one is a script.01:04
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naoranyone here can help me out?01:05
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SlimeyPetenaor: Laptop with a Radeon card?01:05
naora normal pc with ati x60001:06
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naorthe screen just turns black01:06
naorbut the pc stays working01:06
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runleveltenno acpi?01:07
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Whiz2looking at this... the version of Xsession that vncserver gets it stuff from is actually called from the one you want me to edit... therefore... that tells me that it still wont' work... vncserver is the beginning of the execution chain here01:09
ubuntuwould uninstalling then reinstalling kde work?01:10
ubuntuwould that reset everything back to defaults?01:10
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: if you run vnserver manually it isn't the beginning of the execution chain. Xsession etchas already been executed. Therefore shovng it at the end of the script should work just the same.01:10
naoranyone can help me out here?01:11
Whiz2look at the very lastline01:11
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Whiz2it is . /etc/X11/Xsession (which means that script ends with calling vnc's Xsession" which means if it were executing, then the desktop would ne up01:12
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: you're missing my point. vncserver can evidently execute after the xsession has ben executed, even though it in turn executes said xsession, because that's what happens when you run it mnually from kde01:12
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SlimeyPeteif it works that way,it should work this way too :)01:12
Whiz2fine. where do I put my command?01:13
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SlimeyPetejust shove it at the end, if I were you :)01:13
SlimeyPeteor you could try before the xsession line if you prefer01:13
SlimeyPetethen... cross fingers ;)01:13
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Whiz2shoot! where was that version located again?01:14
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progreSShi ALL01:14
SlimeyPetehrm, or not01:15
SlimeyPeteI'veforgotten too ;) gimma  a minute01:15
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progreSScan anybody help me out with my nickname in here?01:15
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: /etc/kde3/kdm/01:15
progreSSit is progreSSive, but it says "16:09]  [Nick]  Nickname already in use, try a different"01:15
Whiz2are you sure it wouldn't go into Xstartup?01:16
SlimeyPeteWhiz2: pretty sure. Xstartup is run as root, Xsesion is run as you, so the atter seems like the best bet01:17
SlimeyPetebah I hate this keyboard01:17
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SlimeyPeteyou can jst hit ctrl-alt-backspace, Whiz2 :)01:18
Whiz2good thing I'mnot on here with that computer... or I would have to logout of here01:19
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Whiz2killing X never works forme01:19
Whiz2i always freeze, or get an error01:19
SlimeyPeteoh right01:19
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Whiz2has something to do with the way the computer is01:20
SlimeyPeteright... I'm off to lunch with my colleagues. Good luck. If it doesn't work then sorry for wasting your time ;)01:20
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Whiz2i'm looking for an error, or loop :-p01:20
progreSScan anybody help me out01:21
progreSSi cant switch to my own nickname01:21
progreSSit says: [16:13]  [Nick]  Nickname already in use, try a different one.01:21
Whiz2on here?01:21
Whiz2then that means someone is already using it01:21
Whiz2nothing you cando about that01:21
progreSShow come!01:22
progreSSi'd been using it yesterday..01:22
SlimeyPeteif you register your nick, you can do a /msg nickserv ghost <password>01:22
Whiz2because your nickname isn't registered.01:22
progreSSor is there a way to use a "ghost" command?01:22
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progreSSno it is01:22
progreSSit is progreSSive01:22
progreSSbut i cant switch to it :)01:22
Whiz2then /msg nickserv ghost <password>01:23
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progreSSiveWhiz2, SlimeyPete, thanks guys! appreciate!! )01:24
progreSSiveoh and, is there any sybase chatrooms?01:24
Whiz2i wouldn't know that01:24
progreSSiveor any database chatrooms?01:24
Whiz2or that01:25
progreSSivewell anyways, thanks :)01:25
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progreSSivei'm afraid to use the /list command... the list is too huge )01:25
tristan_Dudes, I got a logitech QuickCam Pro 5000 and want to know how to get it to work in Linux, any ideas?01:26
the-ermWhiz2: Maybe you're over thinking it.   Perhaps all you need to do is edit /etc/init.d/kdm.01:26
the-ermlet me look at something else ...01:26
tristan_I was reading this http://linux-uvc.berlios.de but I'm unsure what to do with it.01:26
Whiz2the-erm: would it help to know that vnc createsan X session?01:28
progreSSivedoes anybody know a database room in this chat? )01:29
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the-ermI don't know ... don't play with vncserver enough to know.  Personally I just run stuff from the console via ssh.  I edit files via sftp:// and I rarely need to run anything graphically on the computer I connect to.01:30
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Whiz2it requires the X server to be running first01:31
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Whiz2I'mthinking Xstartup01:32
the-ermIf I wanted vnc to run whenever I logged in I'd write a script and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart/01:33
c1|freakyanyone in here using kdevelop and can tell me good options for autocompletion? f.e. if i create a class: class Bla { int i; public: Bla { } }; and in main i type: Bla blubb; blubb. and then it should automagically display the variables and functions in the class, and this also with classes of the standard library like for string so i dont have to remember all possible operations a class provides but can scroll through  a list of member functions which01:33
c1|freaky usually describe themselves and that way dont have to search for it in a book everytime i forget something01:33
Whiz2i want it to run before kde!01:33
Whiz2before i login01:33
the-ermIf I wanted it to run whenever Xstarted I'd put it in /etc/init.d/kdm under start)01:33
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Whiz2where exactly under start)?01:38
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Remo_Ahm, once again, the adept updater(or aptitude or apt-get, name it) upgrades a package which worked and now doesn't anymore... sdp process is not running, I can't use bluetooth or USB connections under feisty now since the last update01:40
the-ermWhiz2: Right after kdm starts.  I'll be right back I'm going to try it there.  This of course requires me to totally stop kdm.01:40
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Remo_Aany hints what package might be the problem here?01:41
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progreSSivepeople, anybody knows any database channels in here???01:42
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combodoes anyone use GUARDDOG? cuz i'm not sure how to have a connection?! :T01:43
Remo_Awhat program has the sdpd in it?01:44
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the-ermok Whiz2 I'm back, and now time to test the theory, I'm going to log in as my wife in a nother session and see if I can control this one.01:44
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Remo_Aweird, no hits, what is it about that? why should konqueror be asking for the running sdpd process else than it not being active?01:46
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).01:46
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Remo_Ahcid -s did the trick, but boy, why is that not automated?01:47
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sargejose, stop02:08
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milesok hi02:11
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milescameron diaz?02:12
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kondeDrakuljanyone know about 25 updates from today?02:15
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zorg_the_falseq. ubuntu has a tool to help the autocompletion of option inside shell ? how is it called ? and especially how do i disable it ?02:16
pagzorg_the_false, you mean the command autocompletion in bash?02:17
zorg_the_falsepag: yep but not the normal executable one with PATH and filename, the one with the options behinds02:17
combo- do u know some name of program that is alike to Wind. Movie Maker?02:17
combo* i mean - veeeery similar :D02:18
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pagzorg_the_false, hmm... dunno sorry.02:18
zorg_the_falsePici> zorg_the_false: The files are in /etc/bash_completion.d/ <- i got the answer elsewhere, thanks :)02:18
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comboand do u know some program that can make an animation gif from movie? :T02:19
Chousukemplayer can, afaik.02:20
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Chousukebe warned though: it will take a crapload of space.02:20
comboChousuke: eeeeee? mplayer?!02:21
comboChousuke: r u sure ? :] 02:21
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Chousukejust see -vo help02:21
comboapt-get install mplayer ? :] 02:21
combook i'l' see it :)02:21
ChousukeI'm not sure though, but at least I think mplayer can output to gif files02:22
Chousukeyou need to use it from the command line for that, though02:22
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the-ermWhiz2: for the record I can't figure it out.  Sorry man02:23
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kpf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:25
progreSSivepeople, anybody knows any database channels in here???02:25
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the-ermprogreSSive: #mysql :?02:25
progreSSivethe-erm, sybase, preferably )02:26
the-ermprogreSSive: nope no one in #sybase02:26
progreSSivethe-erm, damn, okay, thanks anyways!!02:26
progreSSivethe-erm, oh, any #oracle? ))02:27
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comboi added some new applet to MAIN PANEL - it's public server-something ? i have a quest. :: how it works ? :] 02:27
the-ermprogreSSive: you could type /join #oracle to find out.02:27
progreSSiveyeah ))02:27
miles"moo" - cow02:27
the-ermcombo: http://localhost:port02:28
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milesoh my fault, i didnt know someone had that name in here02:28
milesi was just acting silly02:28
milessmall world, eh?02:28
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combothe-erm: it works! THX :D:D02:29
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_Shade_how can i add user to a specified group?02:32
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pag_Shade_, sudo adduser username groupname02:34
combothe-erm: can i protect that server with password somehow? that to the http://localhost:port/ access will be limited ? :] 02:34
combothis little remote server is unbelievable COOOOOOOL :D:D i've been searching something like this for Windows for all my life :)02:35
the-ermcombo: it'd be better to install apache, then set up a password.   I haven't sued the server applet in years.02:35
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)02:35
combothe-erm: and thanks apache i'll be able to set my privacy server on HDD, won't i  ?:>02:36
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the-ermcombo: It's pretty easy installing apache sudo apt-get install apache   you can mkdir ~/public_html/ and then http://localhost/~username/02:37
combothe-erm: ok - thx once again :D02:37
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the-ermfrom there you'll need to edit ~/.htaccess tell it to allow indexes, and set up the password.  check in #apache and ask them about how to set up passwords.  I forget at this time, but it involves running htpasswd02:38
combothe-erm: and one more quest. - istead of localhost might be my IP adress ?02:38
the-ermyes, if you're behind a router you'll need to forward port 8002:39
combothe-erm: ok, i'll ask on #apache for more details :)02:39
combowohoho... such many people on #apache chanell :D:D02:39
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the-ermoops not ~/.htaccess but ~/public_html/.htaccess02:42
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alexnicolWhat program can I use to batch create thumbnails02:58
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twosouls82bash + imagemagick02:59
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BlueVettegood morning.03:03
vprintswhat exactly are "Pre-released updates" ?03:04
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BlueVetteI just installed Kubuntu 7.04 onto this iMac (PPC) and I cannot locate vnc files to install using adept... Why am I missing them?03:04
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JackPhilI can use mplayer as an engine of kaffeine in edgy03:05
JackPhilbut now in feisty, I cannt choose it03:05
vprintsBlueVette, mabe you just have to update your repositories or they are not set yet03:06
JackPhilthere is no such a option for mplayer, just xine03:06
BlueVettehmm. okay03:06
JackPhiladdtional, edgy and feisty on different machine03:06
BlueVetteDoes the PPC release of Kubuntu have pretty much all the same apps in Adept as the intel versions?03:06
JackPhilany help?03:06
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tristan_Hello nerds, my webcam works in ekiga, it's a logitech quickcam pro 5000, with UVC, but it wont work with either Kopete or aMSN, help...03:07
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SlimeyPetereal men gulp.03:08
SlimeyPetewell noticed. Have a sticker :)03:09
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tristan_This is a help channel, you know, for people who need help03:09
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SlimeyPeteI do apologise if our two-line offtopic conversation prevented others from recieving assistance.03:10
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SlimeyPetegenii: good plan03:14
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jttcan anyone tell how and why fstab is getting rewritten on reboots03:15
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milesjtt a script might be executing that does so03:15
jttmiles yes i am sure of that but i need to know what one03:16
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tristan_Hello nerds, my webcam works in ekiga, it's a logitech quickcam pro 5000, with UVC, but it wont work with either Kopete or aMSN, help...03:16
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twosouls82tristan_: you really expect to get help like that?03:17
SlimeyPete"geeks", if you please ;p03:17
tristan_similar thing03:18
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tristan_Hello nerds, my webcam works in ekiga, it's a logitech quickcam pro 5000, with UVC, but it wont work with either Kopete or aMSN, help...03:21
tristan_YOU'RE A COMMUNITY OF BASTARDS no offence03:23
[GuS] tristan_: do not repeat your question... as you may wait to be helped03:23
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:23
[GuS] bah03:23
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[GuS] tristan_: dont will never get help like that, use google instead03:24
tristan_This is why Windows sucks less, it works... sort of but it works...03:24
SlimeyPetedepends what you want to do, really.03:24
[GuS] then keep using windows tristan_03:25
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SlimeyPeteI find that kubuntu works well for my needs, YMMV :)03:25
tristan_ur needs are only porn03:25
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SlimeyPeteI have other needs too ;p03:26
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BlueVettetristan_ is pretty freaking sweet.03:26
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[GuS] lol03:26
newtokubuntuhow to i start desktop effects in kubuntu?03:27
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tristan_What desktop effects?03:27
tristan_Widgets and stuff?03:28
tristan_You need to install superkaramba03:28
pag!beryl | newtokubuntu03:28
newtokubuntui'm running the gutsy alpha 503:28
ubotunewtokubuntu: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects03:28
[GuS] He measn compiz FUusion03:28
newtokubuntuso compiz fusion, yeah03:28
tristan_sudo apt-get install superkaramba03:28
[GuS] means*03:28
tristan_Or that.03:28
[GuS] tristan_: stop with the bullshit03:28
newtokubuntuIs it included by default or do I have to install it03:28
tristan_[GuS] : Sorry, what was that? Bullshit?03:29
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combothe-erm: suuuuuuuux; this apache is difficult as hell!!! :] 03:29
tristan_I was helping him, you shit eating bastard.03:29
[GuS] your last name is tristan_ :P03:29
pag!language | tristan_03:29
ubotutristan_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:29
[GuS] and Superkaramba is not desktop effects.03:30
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[GuS] newtokubuntu:03:30
[GuS] do you know how to add repositories?03:30
[GuS] so i could tell you which one to add for Compiz Fusion03:30
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Ben_Cshello. i have a file: warzone2100-2.0.7.package . how do i install it?03:31
newtokubuntuGus: yes, /etc/apt/sources.list03:31
[GuS] good03:31
[GuS] then add this one: deb http://ubuntu.moshen.de feisty eyecandy03:31
runlevelten!language | tristan_03:31
ubotutristan_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:31
[GuS] oficial repos from Compiz, then you will get latest03:31
tristan_eat cock u stupiud dick wad03:31
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[GuS] followed on that newtokubuntu, under the konsole type: wget http://ubuntu.moshen.de/2F306651.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -03:32
tristan_i am 8 yrs old n no more thn u03:32
[GuS] to add the gpg key for that repo03:32
runleveltentristan_: the fact that you are dross, is not our fault.03:32
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tristan_stfu virgins03:33
newtokubuntuGus: ok, what's the name of the package?03:33
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runleveltenI highly doubt you are eight years old, too. Now please state your support question in a reasonable way.03:33
tristan_sorry there all stuiped here03:33
tristan_they dont help the needy03:33
runleveltenIt's "they're". Now what is your problem?03:34
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tristan_Ask in  ##linux03:34
runleveltenYour technical problem that is, we have no psychiatry support for you here. :)03:34
tristan_It's a more friendly, less powercrazed mods.03:34
tristan_Bringing /b/ackup03:34
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runleveltenAh, 4chan03:34
runlevelten!ops | tristan_03:35
ubotutristan_: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!03:35
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runleveltenJust a heads up.03:35
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[GuS] ban!03:35
tristan_Me know me as done wrong03:35
[GuS] :P03:35
tristan_I am veyr very sorry03:35
runleveltentristan_: Nobody's interested in reforming your character. Do you have stuff you want help with?03:36
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tristan_Yeah, my webcam doesn't work in Kopete or aMSN but works in Ekiga03:36
newtokubuntu[Gus]  how do I install it now?03:36
[GuS] newtokubuntu: there are a cup of it03:36
[GuS] you have to install: compiz compiz-kde  for sure03:37
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[GuS] there are another for the configs of Compiz03:37
Hobbsee!guidelines | tristan_03:37
ubotutristan_: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:37
[GuS] like compizconfig-settings-manager03:37
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runleveltentristan_: are you using NAT?03:37
tristan_I think it's a partially blocked nat03:38
tristan_My problem is it doesn't work in settings, doesn't show a preview.03:38
[GuS] newtokubuntu: and the pacjage emerald for you WM decorator in kubuntu03:38
runleveltenYou at least need to forward NAT with kopete03:38
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runleveltenAh, what cam?03:39
[GuS] package*03:39
tristan_Ekiga works03:39
newtokubuntu[Gus]  can you recommend a good tutorial?03:39
tristan_Oh, CAM03:39
tristan_Logitech Quickcam Pro 500003:39
[GuS] newtokubuntu: sure, let me check my bookmarks03:39
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[GuS] newtokubuntu: check out the 4 stepp: http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/enable_compizfusion_in_ubuntu_feisty/03:41
[GuS] and replace the package compiz-gnome by compiz-kde03:41
enoj_Does anyone know how I can make my fonts look better? See screenshot: http://enoj.com/fonts.png - As you can see i'm using force fonts dpi and anti-aliasing, but they are still ugly (very thin (and no, using _bold_ doesn't help)).. On my laptop they look _much_ better with same fonts and settings, much easier to read03:42
newtokubuntu[Gus]  Thank you03:42
[GuS] newtokubuntu: as well libcompizconfig-backend-gconf by libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig03:42
[GuS] and dont forget to install emerald03:42
geniitristan_: some info on bottom of this page on what ports you may want to see are open etc http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete%20Webcam%20Support&comzone=show03:43
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tcp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about udp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:43
tristan_Ah wait.03:43
tristan_How do I add myself to the video group?03:43
geniilikely 6891 and 6892 need to be opened03:44
tristan_I think that's the problem.03:44
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tristan_No wait. I'm in the video group...03:44
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tuxi2I'm looking for help installing kde-guidance03:46
runleveltentristan_: amsn should support it now.03:46
tristan_I don't have the v4l-common module.03:47
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jason_anyone give me feedback on my website, Im an ubuntu user, I want code to tell me how many donations I have recieved etc for free, any idea? http://stimulus.007ihost.com/jenna.html03:48
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tristan_What language03:50
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tristan_jason_:  what language?03:52
jason_sorry html or php03:52
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tristan_jason_: Best thing to do: go to #php03:53
jason_tristan_: yup, im just wandering whether it would have to be a paypal script if you know what i mean03:53
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Hobbseejason_: try #ubuntu-offtopic03:54
tristan_Can't you just like... view your donations through paypal?03:54
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[GuS] newtokubuntu: for more updated development packages you could add deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty eyecandy repo too03:55
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Ben_Cshow does the whole caching system work in kde? suppose i have 2G of RAM. 300MB application use, 200MB buffer, and 1500MB is used by cach. suppose i run an app that needs 200MB. what happens?03:58
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SlimeyPeteBen_Cs: 200MB of your cache is freed and used03:59
SlimeyPeteBen_Cs: 's not KDE that does it though, it's the kernel03:59
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[GuS] yes, is how linux works03:59
[GuS] not kde03:59
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SlimeyPetethe cache just uses all the spare RAM. It's designed never to interfere with the needs of applications.04:00
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Ben_CsSlimeyPete: but in gnome it doesn't show that all 2G is used. meaning: nothing is cached?04:00
Ben_CsSlimeyPete: doesn't freeing cach to use mem. for apps makes it slow?04:01
morticiis there an easy way to upgrade kubuntu from edgy to feisty04:01
SlimeyPeteBen_Cs: I imagine that's just Gnome's memory indicator deciding not to display it04:01
Ben_Csi see04:01
SlimeyPeteBen_Cs: apparently not. 'm no expert on the kernel but supposedly it doesn't affect performance to any significant degree.04:02
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SlimeyPeteand if the app has previously been cached it makes load times much better :)04:02
Ben_Csi see. thanks. good to know04:02
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SlimeyPeteBen_Cs: you can use "top" from the CLI to see all sorts of details about memory (half of which I don't understand)04:02
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geniimortici: Use method 2 here http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu.html04:04
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ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)04:05
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scrondleHello. I ran a Kubuntu update this morning and KDE is hosed. When I startx I get a popup with "Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation."04:05
scrondleAnyone have any ideas? I've checked permissions on my home directory, and they seem to be appropriate.04:06
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JackPhilIt seems kaffeine 0.8.5 could not realize the mplayer installed in the sytem04:08
JackPhilbut 0.8.3 can04:08
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:10
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combo- can some1 help with wine. some fixme error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34891/ :S04:13
scrondleIs anyone else having problem with the latest KDE updates?04:13
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drifis there some util which would give me info about my memory chips?04:19
combo- how to configure wine?04:20
drifcombo: which setup.exe is that?04:20
combodrif: what u mean whcih?04:21
drifwell..setup.exe - it can be any software in the world..04:21
comboi want to confure wine so i can have a voice04:21
Hobbseescrondle: you probably wont get an answer, due to the lack of information04:21
combothis is 123 AVI to GIF converter v3.0 :D04:21
geniiscrondle: Not directly *buntu related but informative on this subject: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=32830204:21
combodrif: oh.. u're saying about previous error :)04:22
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drifcombo: referring to your paste04:22
combou mean it ?04:22
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scrondleThank you. I've seen that. I ran the update utilitiy this morning. There were about twenty updates to KDE. I ran them, afterwards I started getting error messages from Konqureror regarding KHTML being missing. I rebooted, then I received the error message regarding kstartupconfig.04:24
drifbtw, does anyone know what might be switching my keyboard repeat off?04:24
driflike some shortcut I might accidentaly use04:24
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scrondle"find / -name kstartupconfig" doesn't find anything, but I've never done any troubleshooting regarding that, so I don't know if it should.04:25
elite101hey i enabled a HDD (spare) and formatted it with Linux-swap will that make my computer faster? or does it really matter about RAM?04:25
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Hobbseescrondle: use sudo chown -R user.user ~/.kde and restart X04:25
Hobbseescrondle: usually means something in ~/.kde has been run as root, so the permissions have changed.04:25
Hobbseeelite101: the ram tends to matter more04:25
elite101well will it make a diff, at all thou?04:26
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I_Will_Rock_Uelite101 what is your RAM size04:26
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scrondleHobbsee: No dice, same error.04:28
Hobbseescrondle: oh, sorry, i'tll need to be ~, not .kde/04:28
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Hobbseescrondle: and i'm assuming you replaced user with your username04:28
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scrondleHobsee: Yes, of course.04:28
scrondleI'll try it again04:28
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troyhey guys, I'm haing a problem upgrading my install due to a broken package (j2re1.4)... nothing on my system depends on this package, so I was wondering if anyone knows a way to force its removal?04:31
yelelegood night04:31
scrondleHobsee: Same error with the new syntax.04:31
yelelewhy i can install rpm04:31
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yelelewhy i can't install rpm04:31
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yelelewho can help me04:32
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ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)04:32
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)04:32
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Hobbseescrondle: weird.04:33
ramiI cant get rosegarden to work, everytime i open it it says "system tile lapse to low". it can open midi files but i cant have sound so i dont know what i edity, help please?04:33
scrondleHobbsee: I know. I've tried a few troubleshooting threads and have not had success.04:33
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I_Will_Rock_Utroy try "sudo aptitude install package"04:33
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yeleleok try&try thanks a lot04:34
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ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)04:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rosegarden - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:34
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ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire04:36
troyksivaji: fails: dpkg: error processing j2re1.4 (--remove): \n  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 \n Errors were encountered while processing: \n j2re1.4 \n E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)04:37
scrondleHobbsee: Do you have any idea where I might look to see if others are having the same problem with this latest update to KDE?04:37
elite101I_Will_Rock_u, i have 327mb of ram ;) (sd ram :(04:37
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ksivajielite101 cool i think ubuntu can run even in 36Mb RAM04:39
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Hobbseescrondle: ubuntuforums, i guess04:39
Hobbseeksivaji: uh.....no04:39
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Hobbseeksivaji: 256mb is the minimum04:40
Hobbseeelite101: you may want to run xubuntu04:40
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yeleleubuntu contain gcc.how can i use gcc and look gcc version04:41
SlimeyPeteubuntu doesn't contain gcc.04:41
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SlimeyPeteyou have to install it.04:41
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yeleleok tahnks04:41
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ksivajiyelele gcc filename.c to compile and ./a.out to execute binary file04:42
yeleleif i install gcc.how can i look gcc version04:42
_stranger_guys, do u know how i can edit k-menu, other than using the menu editor?04:43
Tomi-idleyelele: gcc --version04:43
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troy_stranger_: the kmenu is just a collection of .desktop files that live in folders across your system.04:44
yelelelike gcc2.0 or gcc 2.5 how to know gcc *.*04:44
yeleleok i know04:45
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yelelegcc  4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)04:45
yelelewhy i can't use 'make'.i must install make from ftp.gnu.org04:46
ksivajitroy have you fixed your problem04:46
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Vaelenyelele: try 'apt-get install make'04:47
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troyksivaji: yes, but I can't explain why it's fixed... I tried using sudo from another user and it worked...04:48
ksivajitroy fone04:48
troyksivaji: thanks for putting up with me - it's a really strange error that I've never seen before...04:49
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yeleleok t try04:49
yeleleok i try04:49
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elite101im running Kubuntu 7.04 on 323mb ram it runs smoooth. I even have only 4gb HDD and runs good. I would perfer 1tb SATA but i have to wait for a new sys, Quad core.04:50
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elite101327*megs really but the MOBO has onboard like 4-6megs04:51
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ksivajiany one using FrostWire here ?04:51
elite101no but i do use Limewire04:51
elite101Frostwire downloads but then Kate opens up >.<04:51
AzzcoHello I'm from sweden and I have my desktop set to english, I want Koffice to use swedish for word correction.. how?04:52
BluesKajelite101, how much space is kubuntu using on your HDD ?04:52
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ksivajidpkg-deb: `/home/sivaji/package/frostwire-4.13.2.i586.deb' is not a debian format archive04:52
elite101about 3gbs so far04:52
elite101i have alot of programs and an ISO downloaded too im pushing the bare minumum04:53
eddyspagettyhow to make a "checkdisk" on kubuntu?04:53
Daisuke_Laptopeddyspagetty: fsck04:53
BluesKajok, thx... thinking of using it on an old 233 MMX pc with XFCE04:53
elite101lol Xubuntu04:53
Daisuke_Laptopand you wouldn't happen to be a King fan, would you?04:53
BluesKaj128 RAM04:53
elite101i use Kubuntu K6-500Mhz04:53
Daisuke_Laptopdon't knock xubuntu, it's awesome for low-power situations04:54
elite101lol i mean 323 megs is a little slow but it works04:54
Daisuke_Laptopthough fluxbox would be faster, i'd think04:54
Tomi-idlelow-power ftw :D04:54
eddyspagettyDaisuke_Laptop: do i have to add the driveletter or something , and is it safe to use (even for a noob)?04:54
elite101ppl keep on inturupting this convo :(04:54
elite101but werer kind off-topic04:54
Tomi-idlei had kde running fine on 256mb ram. ofc not openoffice or anything like that04:55
Tomi-idlekoffice is pretty good though04:55
BluesKajyeah Daisuke_Laptop, thinking i tmight be easier and faster than XP which simply crawls04:55
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elite101yeah i take off all that crap i need04:55
Tomi-idlem$ took out the "Get the facts" website..04:55
elite101like c;mon Phone Dialer?04:55
elite101Dial-up? o_004:55
BluesKajthe MMX pc is used as an mp3 music server04:56
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Daisuke_Laptopeddyspagetty: there's no such thing as a drive letter in kubuntu04:56
Daisuke_LaptopTomi-idle: but they added /compare, which is nearly as bad04:56
eddyspagettyDaisuke_Laptop: i meant partition ;)04:56
Tomi-idlei wonder if there should be some sort of hack for a filemanager to add drive letters ;P04:56
BlueVetteHello.  Question for yall.   Running Kubuntu PPC 7.04 ... is there a ppc version of Flash 9 for this system?04:56
Daisuke_Laptopespecially when they try yo say windows gives you more choice :)04:56
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Daisuke_Laptopeddyspagetty: yes, you'll need to specify the partition04:57
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BluesKajelite101, this MMX has 6G HDD , so it can store alotta music04:57
elite101G4 tech tv Metal gear solid4 video/trailer :)04:57
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SlimeyPete6G isn't a lot of music ;p04:57
Daisuke_LaptopTomi-idle: i would hope a hack like that never arises, because drive letters just don't work that well04:57
BluesKajat the cost of good sound04:57
geniiTomi-idle: whoever writes something like that needs to be smacked around04:57
Daisuke_Laptop6g...  yeah, multiply that times 30 and get back to me :P04:58
Tomi-idlei was sort of kidding :D04:58
_stranger_guys, tell me honestly, what's better: ubuntu, or kubuntu? =)04:58
BluesKajSlimeyPete, at 128kb , it can store plenty of mp3s04:58
Daisuke_Laptopwhatever you prefer, gnome or kde04:58
Tomi-idlebut some coming from windows might actually have a more "home" feeling with drive lettering (eventhough they might not actually mean antyhing)04:58
Daisuke_Laptop_stranger_: there is no real "better"04:58
BlueVette_stranger_: pclinuxos :)04:58
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SlimeyPetedesktopBSD ;)04:59
Daisuke_Laptopmost of us are using kubuntu (it's the kubuntu channel, after all)04:59
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BlueVetteI don't care for gnome04:59
yeleleroot@yelele-desktop:/tmp/make# make04:59
yelelebash: make: command not found04:59
boris_slimeypete hows desktopbsd like ?04:59
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boris_is it fast ?04:59
_stranger_apt-get install make04:59
yelelewhat's mean04:59
Tomi-idlei tried gnome, i tried to force myself to use gnome, but kde is better for me04:59
SlimeyPeteboris_: was pretty good last time I tried04:59
SlimeyPeteboris_: not quite as easy as ubuntu. About the same speed, maybe a little quicker.05:00
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SlimeyPetebut that was over a year ago05:00
_stranger_i know a guy, who uses openbsd with xfce as a desktop )05:00
genii_stranger_: since they both use the same engine underneath the window managere it is just whatever you find prettier or easier to use05:00
boris_sorry i joined recently  and i didnt see everything u wrote05:00
Vaelen_stranger_: There is an xfce version of ubuntu too.05:00
yelele_stranger_> how can i do?thanks05:01
Daisuke_Laptopapt-get install build-essential05:01
Daisuke_Laptopnot make05:01
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VaelenDaisuke_Laptop: Ahh, good to know, thanks.05:01
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VaelenDoes that install gcc too if you don't already have it?05:02
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yelele<Daisuke_Laptop>:ok how can i install 'make'05:02
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Vaelenyelele: installing the package called 'build-essential' will install make.05:02
yelelegcc 4.3  my ntuntu05:02
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_stranger_sudo apt-get install make build-essential05:03
_stranger_just like that )05:03
yeleleok try wait a monent05:03
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yeleleroot@yelele-desktop:/# sudo apt-get install make build-essential05:05
yeleleE:  /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:05
yeleleE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:05
yeleleerror where05:05
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phpcodeyelele:  "is another process using it?"05:05
_stranger_close synaptic or adept05:05
Daisuke_Laptopis another copy of adept open?05:05
_stranger_whatever u have open :)05:05
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yeleleok just i use the soft update .05:08
_stranger_yelele: what do u wanna compile anyway? =)05:09
yelelewanna compile anyway? =   this i don't know05:10
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_stranger_what program do you want to compile/make ?05:10
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yelele&make-3.81 from ftp.gnu.org05:11
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_stranger_wouldn't it be better to just install it using apt-get? from the repository?05:12
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yelele repository   what's mean05:13
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jhutchins!repository | yelele05:14
ubotuyelele: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:14
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jhutchins!packages | yelele: see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement05:16
ubotuyelele: see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!05:16
underdog5004genii, you still here?05:18
geniiunderdog5004: wHERE ELSE WOULD I BE? ;)05:19
geniibah capslock05:19
underdog5004ha ha, n00b05:19
underdog5004what time is it there?05:19
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elite101hey im having sound issues05:20
elite101i cant hear anything online?05:20
geniiunderdog5004: 11:20 AM05:20
elite101not in Konqueror or Firefox?05:20
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underdog5004oh...8:20 here05:20
elite101i can play songs on my computer and stuff but any audio thats online i cant hear?05:21
elite101i tried everything in Kmix its just nothing will work? is it my sound card?05:21
elite101mhm anyone have this happen before?05:22
SlimeyPetemight be a Flash problem?05:23
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elite101thats what i was just thinking lol since everything i tried was with flash05:23
SlimeyPeteI've had audio problems in Flash. Think I still do, actually. I'm not sure there's a fix though.05:23
SlimeyPeteaprt from using Gnash instead.05:23
elite101how do i un-install the flash-plugin in firefox?05:23
elite101ahh uc05:23
elite101i un-installed Gnash?05:24
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elite101could that be a problem05:24
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elite101cuz it happend around that time too05:24
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SlimeyPeteelite101: gnash is a replacement for flash and vice-versa.05:24
elite101yeah well i had both of em installed05:24
SlimeyPeteif you uninstall flash and reinstall gnash you might have more luck05:24
SlimeyPetethough gnash won't do everything that flash will05:24
elite101yeah well i like Flash05:24
elite101like youtube05:24
elite101i will install it again05:25
elite101and c05:25
elite101i uninstalled it because it was slow on my computer lol im pushing the minumum here05:25
elite101K6-500Mhz 327mb ram05:25
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elite101i dont like usuing adept makes my computer run slow too05:26
BluesKajI'm still trying to get konq to use flash , but no luck so far ... had it working in the previous setup , but I've forgotten how ...the plugin scan on konq does nothing05:26
fkmDoes anybody know what libberylsettings0-kconfig is for? I couldn't find anything useful using google and the README is empty too...05:26
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elite101BluesKaj, i got flash working with konqueror05:27
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BluesKajelite101, bully for you ,...tell us how then :)05:27
Hobbseefkm: beryl kcontrol module, but i dont think it works05:27
elite101well u have to use firefox too05:27
BluesKajit doesn't help anyone , just to say it works for you05:28
fkmOk, because I didn't see any changes in Beryl since I've installed it :) Thank you Hobbsee!05:28
elite101but what i did is i downloaded firefox went to www.joecartoon.com and then it downloaded the plugin and then i went to konqeuror and youtube works i didnt have to install the one usuing konsole/terminal i never havetoo05:28
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BluesKajI have FF , and it works fine ...I'd like to get konq to use flash as well05:28
fkmAh :D05:29
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elite101well did u install flash from adept/terminal?05:29
elite101i didnt have to do that i just downloaded FF and installed the plugin and now both of em work :)05:29
fkmNow I see :D I was looking at the wrong place :| Thank you _very_ much :D05:29
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fkmNow I finally could get rid of the window shadows in Beryl :D05:30
fkmSo. But now I'm off05:30
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elite101alot of ppl have problems with Flash on Konqueror?05:30
fkmNice evening everybody!05:30
elite101lol good afternoon05:30
elite10111:30 am here05:30
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elite101who has problems with flash and konqueror?05:31
adenicioany geeks here know how to do human interface?like control the pc with the wiimote,do streaming from the pc to my psp05:33
jeroenvrplapcan someone please help  me with knetworkmanager05:33
adenicioelite101: wa is flash?05:33
jeroenvrplaphe sees the networks05:33
rabindrathis is the first time I am using IRC05:34
jeroenvrplapusing a linksys with ndiswrapper05:34
jeroenvrplapso far so good05:34
jeroenvrplapbut when filling in the 128b hex key (open) it hangs on 57%05:34
jeroenvrplapany solution?05:34
adenicioelite101: i got prrob with konquer,well not realy it just i like to see my files in detail i want to know where to change the option so when i brows everything is in details05:34
jeroenvrplapor where I can find the error logs?05:34
adenicioany geeks here know how to do human interface?like control the pc with the wiimote,do streaming from the pc to my psp05:36
jeroenvrplapadenicio: I think thats to exotic for here05:36
adenicioanimimotus: your name is hard to say05:37
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jeroenvrplapI dont even get answer on my wifi question :-(05:37
animimotusfor me quanta's bug report I search the term for the code structure breadcrumbs that appear in bottom? Like <body><div><strong>05:37
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animimotus* my05:37
adeniciojeroenvrplap: look so.i'll say allmost the smae for u with your wifi.i give up with the wifi i just run a cable :-)05:38
animimotusthey can understand so? "code structure breadcrumbs"?05:38
adenicioanimimotus: ???wat???05:39
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adeniciorunlevelten: hey u there people got question here.arent u workin here to help?05:39
jeroenvrplapadenicio: actually it works when you dont use knetworkmanager05:40
runleveltenadenicio: Sorry, I have other stuff I have to do right now, so I am only popping my head in once in a while.05:40
runleveltenSorry :(05:40
SlimeyPeteadenicio: none of us "work here"05:40
SlimeyPetewe're volunteers...05:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about volunteer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about volunteers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:41
adeniciorunlevelten: lol i forgot u help for free thats good.keep up the good job if it's a job lol SlimeyPete05:42
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runleveltenIn my real job I'm actually a tank driver. Hence the long gaps.05:43
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BluesKaj!patience | adenicio05:44
ubotuadenicio: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:44
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SlimeyPetein *my* real job I'm a programmer, hence the poor typing and general sense of confusion.05:44
U238Willyhaha.. runlevelten.. nice.. ;)05:44
adeniciorunlevelten: your not that smart but maybe u can help me lol.i want to control my mouse with the  wiimote.and the video i does watch in streaming doesnt play with real player.05:44
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terrestresomeone having trouble with compiz-fusion?05:45
elite101well i tried to install Gnash it worked and everything but the sound still does not work so im going to try to remove and re-install Firefox ;)05:45
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runleveltenthe what the who now? Well with the wiimote, I don't even know what they use to communicate withv the machine05:46
adenicio!true | BluesKaj05:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about true - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:46
runleveltenand is it realplayer you're trying to control, or realplay that won't play something?05:46
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elite101mhm well i just uninstalling some sh*t and now im going to install Firefox/flash to see if my sound works again :)05:49
SlimeyPeterunlevelten: the wiimotes use bluetooth coupled with a bar full of infrared LEDs, just FYI.05:49
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SlimeyPeteso you can use them with PCs05:49
SlimeyPetedunno how it's one though ;)05:49
adeniciorunlevelten: lol.the wiimote is bluetooth butclient blue doesnt detect it.on the web site for the streamin they say to see the video u need pilotes*to see witch i get by downloadin real player.now they say if u want to see the video play with real player right clic but theres no options to play it with real player like windows05:49
elite101u can use the Wii mote with the xbox 360 there is a tut on it and in the video he is playing halo05:49
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elite101u need a ps2 adpater a small Mobile handheld with an "hacked" drivers (bluetooth enabled) and u can use the Wii mote with the 36005:50
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elite101or if u run linux on ur PS3 u can use the xbox 360 controller yet again another "hacked" driver05:51
runleveltenRight, so you have two separate issues. First, setting up the wiimote to act as a remote. you done that?05:51
adenicioelite101:  i hate the 36005:52
elite101mee tooo05:52
elite101but there controller are good05:52
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elite101how much are bluetooth (usb) adapters? like 20$ rite?05:53
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adenicioelite101: lol wa u talkin about i want it for the pc like wa they do in youtube video on linux ect i dont want it for a 360 witch sucks verymuch05:53
elite101yeah i know05:53
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elite101im just saying the things u can do with Wiimote05:53
elite101its crazy05:53
geniielite101: I just got a Dlink adapter for $3005:53
elite101that sounds like a good but05:54
geniiworks fine with linux05:54
elite101how much data transfer is it up too?05:54
elite101like the max rate? or does it say05:54
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geniielite101: Doesn't say. But file transfers from my cellphone and back seem to be around 250K/second (4 seconds for a meg about)05:55
elite101im thinking about only 54megs?05:55
elite101ahh ic05:55
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elite101mhm thats not too bad05:55
elite101if u get it too work i would be intrested05:56
geniiChousuke: Yup05:56
ChousukeYeah, 200k/s sounds about right.05:56
adeniciorunlevelten: called bluemote and kanyremote???the bluetooth manager doesnt detect my wiimote.thing would be much easyer if i can install the best bluetooth manager"blue soleil"05:56
elite101how much was the WIImote? like 40$?05:56
Chousukefor BT 2.0 at least05:56
runleveltenit would be even easier if you could just put the nintendo games straight in your PC, too.05:56
adenicioelite101: i fu talkin to me highlite my name please05:56
elite101yeah k05:57
Chousukenot too speedy, but enough for small transfers.05:57
geniiDlinkk DBT-122 adapter05:57
runleveltenbut anyway, heh - what bluetooth manager do you mean adenicio?05:57
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elite101adenicio, how much for the wii-mote?05:57
adeniciorunlevelten: elite101 u people chatin a bunch of stupidness lol.i just want to find how to control my pc with my wiimote not playgame wat soever.05:58
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elite101how much for the remote?05:58
adenicioelite101: i dont know i found it05:58
adeniciohey its possible05:59
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adeniciorunlevelten: when does stjin does log on?06:00
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localhow i change the language in kubuntu.when i search for swedish i can only see english06:00
elite101someone had the same problem but only with Koffice06:01
localcan you help me_06:01
adenicioelite101:  i tink its his name he explains verygood.and gives u links06:01
localhello elite10106:01
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elite101mhm yeah links he gets from google? im sure there is a site befor u go blabbering on here :\06:01
elite101hello local06:02
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elite101i dont know how to do that? i think its in Kcontrol or something06:02
elite101or unless its locked on english if u installed the whole distro on english?06:02
adenicioelite101: no no just when u ask the question etc he give u a perfect link on the ubuntu website06:02
runleveltenalt F2  regional & accessibility06:02
adenicioelite101: he have to be a linux geek lol06:03
elite101i was going to type that06:03
elite101yeah or a google geek?06:03
runleveltenalt F2 kcontrol  regional & accessibility06:03
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runlevelteneven, heh06:03
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runleveltenwell there are numerous accounts of people using the wiimote successfully.06:03
elite101adenicio i know this great site it helps me with my problems and stuff i get this good amount oflinks about wiimote and stuff wanna hear it?06:04
runleveltenNot having one handy, I can't set up an rfcomm and play with it myself, so I have to look elsewhere.06:04
localelite log on gaim06:04
adeniciorunlevelten: there a lot of video with the wiimote on youtube with linux06:04
elite101local? do i know u?06:04
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elite101i dont have gaim?06:04
adeniciorunlevelten: i got tru on windows but linux ... oufff06:04
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localon msn06:04
runleveltenadenicio: http://homepage.mac.com/ianrickard/wiimote/wiili_wimote.html06:05
locali know06:05
elite101:P i wanna say how?06:05
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localjust log06:05
adenicioelite101: wa website?06:05
yeniklasorrI'm trying to setup "internet DJ console". Can you help me to set jack ports?06:05
elite101its very good06:05
elite101they even have a search bar gor yeah :)06:06
adenicioelite101: wait wait give me time to lol.........06:06
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runleveltenAha, this looks better adenicio: http://www.wiili.org/index.php/WMD06:07
elite101see what google can do for yah'06:07
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adeniciorunlevelten: PERFECTO06:08
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adenicioelite101: im to lazy to look i like when someone look for me :-P06:09
adenicioelite101: dont tell runlevelten :-P06:09
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elite101www.hackaday.com is a great site for stuff like that i go to it everyday lol06:10
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elite101omg omg omg omg a PSP UNBRIKER WUUU!!!!!!!106:12
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elite101omg i have waited ages for this to come out now i can resurect my friends psp :)06:12
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adenicioelite101: LOL I SOLD MY FRIEND brick PSP he going kill me if he see that06:14
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elite101lmao omg i cant believe it i downgraded 16psp's in total now i only briked one stupid file .eboot :(06:15
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ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash06:16
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adenicioelite101: have u try pimp streamer or ir shell? there are homebrew a psp must have06:17
elite101yeah but they suck i just make a whole bunch of iso's from blockbuster but dont do that its illegal its also piracy >:(06:17
elite101i dont use my psp since it smashed plus i will hack the new one :) there so vulnerable06:18
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adenicioelite101: lol i dont play game anymore with my psp i only do hacks listen to music etc.like the videos on my pc i could watch them direct on my psp06:20
adenicioel to remote for my tv broke i does use the psp to change the channel to watch naruto06:21
elite101yeah lol i dont watch anime its kinda geeky and gay * but hey u like so thats myopion (ir remote ;P06:22
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elite101man i cant believe a battery hack and a jikkick battery hack can bring back a psp now the new psp will be even more hackable since u cant brick it ;)06:23
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elite101man team N00Bz! have done it again06:24
adenicioelite101: lol06:24
elite101well this is great "come unbrick ur psp 45$ each"06:25
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elite101opps sorry for being off-topic i thought i was in the windows channel :( my bad06:26
elite101!offtopic | elite10106:27
adeniciohow do i activat multiverse?06:28
elite101no its kinda not funny thou i got banned for being offtopic plus when ppl have questions06:28
elite101its not something to joke about06:28
adenicioelite101: how did u get banned?06:29
elite101they probably all ignored us, its kinda of a support channel we should of been talking about "psp" in #kubuntu-offtopic06:29
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adeniciou dont have rights to talk about wat u want06:29
andresjadenicio, go to KMenu > System > Adept Manager; enter your password; then go to Adept > Manage repositories; activate "Software restricted by copyright... (multiverse)"06:29
elite101esp when someone has a question we could of "flooded" them out SORRY* about that ppl it wont happen again*06:30
jhutchinselite101: Why not go make a #psp channel if there isn't one already?06:30
elite101yeah sorry about that06:30
elite101it was my bad06:30
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elite101lol patent? is bad06:32
geniirunlevelten: What are your views on trademark then? Good/bad/indifferent? ;)06:33
runlevelten| #kubuntu-offtopic06:33
elite101man i feel bad i flooded the whole thing with "psp" chatter :(06:34
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runleveltenelite101: everyone's kubuntu is running perfectly. Be happy.06:36
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BluesKajkonq wont use flashplugin ...wonder why06:37
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runleveltenBluesKaj: did you close browsers, run firefox, then run konqy, then scan for new plugins if it still wan't working?06:42
andresjblueskaj, i think kubuntu feisty's konqueror will just ask you to install flash when you open a website that has flash in it...06:42
Angelusis it good to use lilo bootloader? or it will mess something06:44
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BluesKajflashplugin-nonfree works fine in FF ... konq just doesn't see it when scan plugins enabled06:44
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runleveltenAh, so you have restarted konqueror completely, and/or scanned manually then.06:47
runleveltenEnsuring that your firefox plugins dir is picked up, I spose, because stranger things have happened.06:48
andresjBluesKaj, do a 'dpkg-query -L flashplugin-nonfree' and see what directory it is installed in. then add that directory in the scan list in konqueror06:48
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BluesKajandresj,  it seems  there are several files in which flashplugin-nonfree resides ...which would be the actual working plugin ,, the .so file ?06:57
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andresj_BluesKaj, the xpi file06:57
Kite_DHhey guys06:57
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BluesKajxpt perhaps , no xpi listed06:58
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andresj_mmm... yes06:58
andresj_it's xpt, no xpi, sorry06:58
Kite_DHhow to execute *.bin files?06:58
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BluesKajok, andresj_ ..will try that06:59
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andresj_Kite_DH, just double click on them, or if that doesn't work, go to it's directory in konqueror, press F4 and do ./somefile.bin07:00
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andresj_Kite_DH you might also have to set it's mode to executable 'chmod +x somefile.bin'07:00
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runleveltenYeah. You'll need to choose to make it runnable how andresj said.07:02
runleveltenassuming it didn't come out of an archive :)07:02
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valentin13hey room07:03
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Angelushow can i install the default kde control centre?07:05
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andresjAngelus, it is already installed: Alt+F2, type in kcontrol07:05
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SRN9hey I was just wondering... is there some specific way you can make kubuntu mound a second hd?07:05
jttany recommendations for a new laptop i need to buy one immediately that linux runs well on07:05
SRN9I just formated it and its all ready I just have no access to it.07:06
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andresjSRN9, System Settings > Avanced > Disk and Filesystems07:06
milesare there any kernel hackers in here?07:06
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milescan someone direct me to a kernel hacker irc room?07:06
adeniciorunlevelten: i dose off a little.i download python-xlib-0.14rc1.tar.gz how do i install it?07:07
miles!find python-xlib07:07
ubotuFound: python-xlib, python-xlib-doc07:07
milesyou might find it easier to use the repository for that adenicio07:07
Arwen!compile | adenicio07:07
ubotuadenicio: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:07
Arwenif you don't know how to compile software, you shouldn't do it07:07
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milescompile softwaer is pretty easy though....assuming you use the default settings..i dont know much about the flags and what not07:08
milesi run x/kubuntu, not gentoo!07:08
Arwenpssh, flags are meaningless07:08
milesare they?07:08
mileshm...part of the reason i was turned off towards gentoo, i didnt know what flags i should be using07:08
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milesand using flags was the inherent strength of that distro07:09
milesso anyways, adenicio, if you ask me, use the repository to install that python-xlib07:09
milesif you ask Arwen, you shouldnt compile if you dont know what your doing07:10
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milesdoes anyone know what the name of the kernel hacker IRC channel is?07:10
Arwen##kernel maybe?07:10
milesno i really had no clue07:10
adeniciomiles: yea but is it the 0.14rc?07:11
Arwenthere a particular reason you need 14rc?07:11
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runleveltenif you don't know how to compile software, you shouldn't do it... flags are meaningless07:11
runleveltenNot sure I agree with either of those ;)07:12
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milesadenicio, do you know about http://packages.ubuntu.com07:12
runleveltenmiles: don't use bitchX, it is pure suck on a stick.07:12
Arwenheh, bitchX07:12
runleveltenLike all of the lollipop is gone from the stick, and all that's left is the suck.07:13
runleveltenIt's irssi with the goodness removed. :(07:13
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milesit makes it look like im doing work instead of talking in IRC at work07:14
milesi normally use konversation07:15
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valentin13where are french  here07:16
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:16
milesso no one in here is a kernel hacker?07:17
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milesentering the command "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags", does this show what flags i have set or what flags i can set based on my cpu?07:19
milesor its just meaningless07:20
ArwenCPU flags != compiler flags07:20
ArwenCPU flags define what instruction sets your CPU can execute, compiler flags tell the compiler to "optimize" code in a certain way.07:21
valentin13qui parle francis ici07:22
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andresjvalentin13, #ubuntu-fr #kubuntu-fr07:22
andresjhow do I install java in kubuntu feisty?07:23
Angelusi re-installed grub, how can i create a menu.1st?07:23
Angelusis there some tool?07:23
Arwen!java | andresj07:23
ubotuandresj: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.07:23
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Angelusi re-installed grub, how can i create a menu.1st?07:24
Angelusis there some tool?07:24
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andresjAngelus, the file is menu.lst07:25
ArwenAngelus, eh, not really. You'll probably have to write at least part of it by hand.07:25
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BaubalI installed kubuntu 7.04 a month ago. CDs and usb flash drives automounted on the desktop fine.  Now, they stopped automounting.  I am not quite sure what caused this - I am thinking an apt-get update, upgrade or something.  Any idea on how to fix? I read on the forums that a bunch of users have this same issue07:30
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cheeseboyhow do i setup internet conection sharing from linux to xbox using a crossover cable?07:34
andresjBaubal, what do you mean by stopped automounting? did you install automount? or you mean what comes with kubuntu?07:34
Baubalthe one that comes with kubuntu after a default install07:36
Baubalworked perfectly, but I havent used a CD in a while, so not sure when or "what" broke it07:36
Angeluscan someone tell me how to create an initrd img for a custome kernel?07:36
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andresjbaubal, well a message should appear when you connect them, if it doesn't maybe you selected "Do this always for this type of media" while you were selecting "Do nothing"... and that makes it not mount it07:37
gnopfelbriejemand da =?07:37
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gnopfelbrieohh english07:37
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gnopfelbriesome good looking girls around ?07:37
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Baubalandresj: you know of a way to reverse that if that is what happened?07:38
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andresjBaubal it is in the System Settings > Notifications > Storage Media Notifications07:39
Baubalandresj: I'll give that a shot.. I really hope that does the trick :) ty kindly07:40
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andresjyou'r welcome07:40
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BluesKajno joy  with flash on konq ..the flash xpt file doesn't load in konq07:45
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andresjI just installed apt-get install sun-java6-jre, did killall -KILL konqueror, and then opened konqueror... but java seems not to work!07:45
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jake_hi guys07:46
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jake_do anyone knows to change the order of my grub?07:46
andresjwhat can I do to make java work in konqueror, if I already installed sun-java6-jre?07:46
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andresjjake_ what do you mean by change order?07:46
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jake_<andresj> to make the windows xp the default boot instead of kubuntu07:47
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andresjjake_, add a line saying "default X" at the start of your menu.lst, where X is the number of the entry (first one is 0)07:48
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andresjjake_, probably there is already a line saying "default 0", so edit that instead07:48
jake_<andresj> i mean what shall i type to the terminal to open menu list?07:49
andresjjake_ I mean edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst07:49
andresjhow do I make java work in konqueror? I already installed sun-java6-jre using apt-get.07:50
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andresjnever mind about java, I jut had to enable Tools > HTML Settings > Java07:52
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jake_<andrsj> thanx a lot07:53
jake_<andresj> sorry buddy but im a new to linux world. what command shall i type to modify the grub?07:55
andresjjake_ "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst", you can also edit it with kate or kwrite (Alt-F2 > kdesu kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst)07:55
andresjhow do I make konqueror enable Java in HTML Settings by default?07:56
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BluesKajandresj, you prolly need java - common07:57
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zekeanyone know how to, or know a link about installing beryl in Gutsy?07:58
andresjBluesKaj, it is already installed (I think it was installed by sun-java6-jre)07:58
andresjBluesKaj, java works when I enable it manually Tools > HTML Settings > Java, but I want it to stay like that...07:58
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BluesKajandresj, check konq /settings /configure/java&javascript on the sidebar07:59
jake_<andresj> thanx a lot buddy07:59
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andresjBluesKaj, Enable Java globally is checked08:00
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:00
andresjjake_ you are welcome08:00
BluesKajjava-common will prolly help you andresj08:00
draikAnyone here know about getting mame to work on Kubuntu?08:00
andresjBluesKaj, java-common is already installed08:00
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zekegutsy beryl anyone?08:02
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draikzeke, I think Beryl is done. Try compiz08:02
BluesKajandresj, what about j2re1.4 ?08:02
BluesKaj!beryl | zeke08:03
ubotuzeke: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects08:03
andresjBluesKaj, it is not, I am installing it...08:03
BluesKajBTW andresj , what flashplugin are you using in konq ..would you mind checking for me ?08:04
andresjBluesKaj, I just entered a website that had flash, and a message appeared saying "The following plugins are available" and I installed it (it never asked me for a password)08:05
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mileshello, world!08:06
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worldhello, miles!08:06
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mileshow do u change ur name?08:06
anthronaut type /nick yournewname08:06
andresjBluesKaj, so I don't have flashplugin nor flashplugin-nonfree it installed08:07
milesahh, i was trying /name08:07
anthronautnope its /nick08:07
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BluesKajthe konq plugin in the repos is version 7 which won't work on most flash sites anymore since most are using version 9 , but even after installing V-9 flash still isn't seen by lonq and tring the manual plugin route in konq doesn't make it work either08:10
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andresjBluesKaj, it works for me.08:11
BluesKajok andresj , waht flash plugin do you have in konq plugins list ?08:11
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andresjBluesKaj, it says /home/andres/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so08:12
andresjBluesKaj, I installed  j2re1.4, but Java is still disabled by default. I have to HTML Settings > java to get it08:14
BluesKajdamn konq is full of arcane settings scattered here and there , trying to get stuff to run is a real exercise in detective work08:15
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andresjwell I give up, I'll have to activate it myself when I see a page wit hjava08:17
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murchadhYeah but it's ability to start with 4 or 5 tabs with windows with 6 or seven panes all open on common web sites or local folders make it the....... ooops thought I was still in #kubuntu-offtopic.08:17
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BluesKajmurchadh, i agree but what a pita to get the media stuff setup properly08:19
jermaini lost my program bar, can someone help me?08:19
murchadhI hear ya BluesKaj! I do.  :)08:20
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JuNkPhreakanyone know what this is ?  hald-runner08:22
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ubuntuhello. is anyone here?08:23
jermainhi ubuntu08:23
ubuntuhi jermain :)08:23
ubuntui have a big problem. i'm stucked in kubuntu08:23
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ubuntuso, i want to install kubuntu, i burn the iso from windows (windows is gone, hehe), but the install fails at 94%08:24
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ubuntui have a blank cd and usb stick. what can i do?08:24
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JuNkPhreakso your saying you burned the iso and its corrupted08:26
ubuntuyes, i have some problems with the cd08:26
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ubuntuat the final of instalation08:26
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ubuntui install twice, but the computer freze at 94%08:26
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ubuntu"configuring hardware"08:26
arunI just installed GNOME with tango icons, and i love it08:27
JuNkPhreakwill it boot with the cd in it ?08:27
ubuntui can't eject the cd in k3b08:27
arunrunning kubuntu and gnome simultaneously08:27
ubuntuyes, i'm writing from the livecd08:27
arunas in, not at the same time, but whatever08:27
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ubuntuit's not possible to eject LiveCD?08:28
ubuntui can burn a new image08:28
JuNkPhreakyou dont have another pc  to reburn the CD?08:28
ubuntui didn't expect that08:28
JuNkPhreakhave you pull up a term window and typed eject ?08:29
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ubuntui press Help -> About Kde08:29
ubuntui'm waiting to stop the cd08:29
ubuntueject and nothing08:30
JuNkPhreakis it trying to burn  now?08:30
ubuntuno, in the DVD it's the kubuntu cd08:30
ubuntui can't eject08:30
nodeserti installed oracle but it starts automaticly everytime.how can i stop it08:30
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ubuntuit's not possible to install kubuntu from internet? netinstall08:31
ubuntua script or something like that08:31
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JuNkPhreakyou might have to google that one dunno probley08:32
JuNkPhreakgoogle unoffical ubuntu guide might help08:32
BluesKajmurchadh, all I get is that my flash install is old or java isn't enabled ...yet i have the latest flash plugin as the help file in konq describes and java enabled , but flash won't work in konq , no probs in FF tho08:32
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ubuntuthanks for support JuNkPhreak08:33
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JuNkPhreakwell hope it helps08:33
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Xera^Hi :)08:35
murchadhBluesKaj: Yeah I was kinda saying that that's my experience with that end of things. I don't use them much and the kids have long since started using FF as well, leaving me somewhat oblivious to it's inadequacies. I think it actually used to work "better" for me before.08:35
JuNkPhreakubuntu do you havea ubuntu cd ?08:36
JuNkPhreakyou can install that and do apt-get for kubuntu08:36
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE08:36
JuNkPhreakduh lol08:36
ubuntuyes, i have it08:36
ubuntu5.05 i guess08:37
ubuntuit's the old version08:37
JuNkPhreakwell you can install ubuntu and do a apt-gat for kubuntu08:37
JuNkPhreakwell doa quickm install on the olfder version and then redownload the new and install :}08:37
BluesKajmurchadh, I like konq's speed and solidity otherwise ...guess I'll keep FF around til i get this dumb problem solved08:37
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ubuntui don't know exactly what version is08:38
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murchadhBluesKaj: I do admire the fact that konqueror adds all other browser to her "Open in" list.... And maybe one day, with support....08:39
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BluesKajJuNkPhreak, this the KUBUNTU chat , if you want advicew about UBUNTU , join #ubuntu ...altho you can install ubuntu then install kubuntu-desktop as well08:39
JuNkPhreakdoa defualt install of the version of ubuntu  and download new version and burn and install08:40
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_wintermute_anyone running dapper with beryl  on a i810 chipset?08:41
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JuNkPhreaki dont need the advice08:43
JuNkPhreaki was helping08:43
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BluesKajoh sorry JuNkPhreak, looked like quaestion since you didn't use anyones's name on your answer08:44
BluesKajer nick08:45
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jake_guys my adept could not fetch updates08:46
jake_help please08:46
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JuNkPhreaknp :}08:47
JuNkPhreakjust got my tiwnview finsh yesterday08:47
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JuNkPhreakdual 19inch wides very nice08:47
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jake_guys pplease help to fix my adept08:48
JuNkPhreakyour gui adept ?08:49
JuNkPhreakwhats up ?08:49
jake_i cant fetch updates08:49
JuNkPhreakis it locked?08:49
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JuNkPhreakhave you check to see if you have more than one running?08:51
aruni just installed gnome, and i get the option of using the gnome de when i log in, but all the gnome apps/features aren't present08:51
arundo i need to install anything else for that?08:51
arunwill that mess up my kubuntu install?08:51
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duendeHelp: I just installed a fresh copy of kubuntu 7.04 on my laptop, and for some reason, my dvd burner is not working.  It has worked in kubuntu in prior installs, and it works now when i boot back into windows, but k3b reports that /dev/scd0 is not a cdrom device.  Any suggestions?08:52
JuNkPhreak< jake_> have you opened upa term window and did ps -ef ? top see if you have 2 of them running?08:52
JuNkPhreaktop =to08:53
jake_nope, its only one08:53
arunkaledo i need to install ubuntu-desktop or is gnome enough08:53
JuNkPhreakwhats the error message your getting08:53
JuNkPhreak< jake_>08:53
nodesert_i have some programs which start automaticly08:53
nodesert_how can i stop them08:53
jake_There was an error downloading updates.08:54
_wintermute_nodesert goto servies08:55
JuNkPhreak<jake_>   go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144963&page=208:55
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JuNkPhreakthe guide rocks :}08:55
_wintermute_System Setting > System Services08:56
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JuNkPhreakanyone know ofa good place to fiand dualwallpapers High res ones?08:57
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jake_now its working but, the updates freeze on 99%08:57
_wintermute_JuNkPhreak: did you try deviantart08:58
JuNkPhreakyea but they didn have much for the dual 19's08:59
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JuNkPhreaknow i need some linux games to try out the dualscreen09:00
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JuNkPhreakwish enemy territory  could support tiwnview09:01
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JuNkPhreaklol spamers09:02
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milesyou guys are right, bitchx does kinda suck09:03
milesstill using it though'09:03
JuNkPhreakirssi rules09:03
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JuNkPhreakyea another text irc09:04
JuNkPhreakbeen using it for long time09:04
milesyea i was bout to say, that looks just like bitchx except better09:04
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JuNkPhreakIam hoping enemy territory :QW is going to haev native linux binary09:06
badwitis there a specific module to load before i can access the data from an external harddrive in a  firewire enclosure?09:07
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cprmptis there a good hex calculator that i can download from the repositories?09:10
miles!find hex09:10
ubotuFound: dssi-plugin-hexter, ghex, ghextris, hex, hexcat (and 9 others)09:10
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badwit!find firewire09:13
ubotuPackage/file firewire does not exist in feisty09:13
badwit!find ieee139409:13
ubotuFile ieee1394 found in pcmcia-cs09:13
arunkalehas anyone here used both ubuntu and kubuntu?09:14
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badwityes, i have09:16
JuNkPhreakyes I have also09:17
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_Shade_i just installed gutsy (by dist-upgrade) but now i can't do further updates. I cannot install kdesktop since it depends on acpi-support09:17
_Shade_but i cannot install it neither09:18
arunkalebadwit, JuNkPhreak: i've used only kde so far for about 2.5 years.. i just tried out the gnome desktop and it seems quite nice. for some reason i thought it would be really ugly but it's not at all. a lot of options, etc. seem to be hard to configure though. do you guys prefer kubuntu or ubuntu?09:18
webappmonkeyOn my desktop, suspend to RAM works great, however it won't come out of suspend properly when compiz is running. I would like to run kwin --replace whenever suspend starts, anyone know where the suspend configuration is in /etc?09:18
mileslinus himself says gnome does a lot of things wrong09:18
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matthew_genii, you around?09:18
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arunkalemiles: such as?09:18
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milesi read it in an rticle a while back09:19
geniimatthew_: Yup :)09:19
mileshe was calling out gnome developers on a lot of things09:19
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webappmonkeyThen again, linus thinks alot of things do stuff wrong, like both CVS and SVN, the latter of which most of the community uses09:19
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milesyea true, but he is bashing them to promote git09:20
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matthew_genii, finally got a chance to get back here...my uncles computer has some no-name ram in it, but the corrupted bit was being allocated by the integrated video card...bleagh09:20
JuNkPhreakgenii  me too09:20
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badwitarunkale, well, i personally prefer kubutnu, its keyboard shortcuts are more manageable to me, also the katapult application makes a lot of things easily accessible09:21
geniimatthew_: Bleh i hate crappy hardware. hope you flushed that stuff09:21
geniiJuNkPhreak: :)09:21
arunkalei've never used gnome before, so i'm having a hard time adjusting things which normally come so easily in kubuntu... such as increasing the number of desktops, customising fonts and other such, disabling icons on the desktop, etc09:21
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arunkalethen again, i just installed gnome over kubuntu, and not a proper ubuntu installation09:21
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arunkaleso maybe it's because of that09:21
matthew_erm s/kingston/kingson/g09:21
geniimatthew_: Didn't get a chance yet to look at the modem situation09:22
webappmonkeyLooking at /etc/acpi/suspend.d/ I assume putting a shell script as 05-kwin-replace.sh with the commands I want would run kwin --replace before most of the other scripts? Anyone know if that is right?09:22
badwitarunkale, i stopped using gnome when Slackware dropped it from its distribution09:22
arunkalebadwit: why's taht09:22
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matthew_genii, np09:22
matthew_genii, can I forward sound along with X with ssh?09:22
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geniimatthew_: Not sure. i think so but how, no idea09:23
matthew_ha ha, ok, I'll just scp the files and listen to them locally09:24
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matthew_my home box only has about 50Kb/s upload bandwidth....oh well09:24
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matthew_waiting on Memtest to clear the remaining RAM09:24
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badwitarunkale, apparently, Patrick Volkerding, decided it was too much of a pain to build Gnome back then (this was about 2 years ago, or more). Too many packages, too many interdependencies etc09:25
underdog5004ah, there we go09:25
underdog5004back in my old nick09:25
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arunkalebadwit: deskbar for gnome does everything that katapult does, apparently09:26
badwitDoes somebody know how to get an external firewire drive working in Feisty?09:26
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badwitarunkale, i just had a look at it, looks promising, but isn't it more like a search application kinda thing09:28
badwitarunkale, katapult is more like an application launcher, AFAIK09:28
arunkalebadwit: nope, launcher as well09:28
underdog5004genii, you ever use remote desktop software as opposed to ssh?09:28
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badwitarunkale, ah, good to know :)09:29
geniiunderdog5004: I'm a big fan of freenx actually09:29
underdog5004freenx, ok09:29
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geniiunderdog5004: But for general usability and simplicity ssh is till best09:30
underdog5004does that require it be installed on both computers?09:30
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webappmonkeyTo answer my own question, no, adding a shell script to /etc/acpi/suspend.d/ does not run when I Suspend to RAM.09:30
geniiunderdog5004: Yeah, you need a server and a client etc09:30
geniiunderdog5004: Can be tunneled over ssh as well09:30
webappmonkeyAnyone know what configuration I need to edit to get kwin --replace to run on the current X session before suspend to RAM?09:31
underdog5004it's not in the repos is it?09:31
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genii!freenx | underdog500409:32
ubotuunderdog5004: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX09:32
underdog5004thank you, sir09:32
geniiunderdog5004: Yer verry velcome09:32
geniiWork, AFK a while09:32
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mrksbrdgenii, i was working on the usb HDD for the rest of the night, and still nothing, attempted to use a script hangthedj gave me and that didn't even work09:33
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mrksbrdbut one thing i did do was format it as ntfs and it did zero out the drive, so i know it is totally clean09:34
milesso pretty much linus t pwnd the whole gnome development team?09:37
milesare there any kernel hackers in here?09:37
radiushow do i edit the theme for kdm in tribe5 - it now says Theme=@@@ToBeReplacedByDesktopBase@@09:37
radiusor can i go ahead and just edit that/09:38
arunkaleis synaptic better or adept?09:39
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mrksbrdgenii, see my last 2 msgs??09:43
arunkalecan one use adept with ubuntu?09:43
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geniimrksbrd: Yup. Maybe take a look at http://linlog.skepticats.com/content/udevautorun/09:43
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Hueywhat does the max-user-freq kernel value represent?09:44
LeeJunFanarunkale: yes you can but it has a lot of qt/kde dependencies, so it's going to want to install quite a bit of other stuff.09:44
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Hueyis it the max timeslice a process can get?09:44
arunkaleman, i really want to try ubuntu for a few days, but i'm having a hard time deciding whether i should use it09:46
arunkalei'm going to be repartitioning my hard drive tomorrow anyway09:46
arunkaleso i'm wondering whether to install ubuntu or kubuntu09:47
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geniiarunkale: For a less painful transistion from windows to Ubuntu, Kubuntu is a better initial choice. Less system shock.09:47
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mrksbrdhmmm, sounds like it may work, i'll give it a try09:48
arunkalegenii: i've been using kde for nearly 3 years now09:48
arunkalejust want to try something new09:48
underdog5004I love kubuntu09:48
arunkalenever used gnome before09:48
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underdog5004arunkale, imho, fluxbox or jwm > gnome09:48
mrksbrdgenii, have u ever used that freenx prog?09:49
geniiI have the big 3 wm on always, KDE, Gnome and XFCE. Mainly i am in KDE these days09:49
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geniimrksbrd: Yes, i have several machines running the client in fact, and 2 servers.09:50
mrksbrdis it easy?09:50
radiussorry to keep asking a repetative question - in tribe5 where do i edit the kdm theme now?09:50
arunkalegenii: i've been using kubuntu for a long time, just installed gnome09:50
arunkalenot nearly as ugly as i thought it would be :p09:51
mrksbrdand can u use it if your work is strictly firewalled???09:51
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geniimrksbrd: Installation I would say is at medium to difficult level. but worth it. Also you can use it on whatever portsso you can use for instance a common open port like 80 or similar on firewalls09:52
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mrksbrdoh ok, 80 is used for normal internet access right09:53
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arunkaleso should i try out ubuntu? :D09:57
geniiwork, AFK09:57
sehearunkale: you could, you know09:57
arunkaleis it worth trying out at least, if not using regularly?09:57
sehearunkale: depends on what for :D09:57
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sehearunkale: I think it is. It's spiffy and I use it all day at work09:58
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arunkalesehe: you use ubuntu at work and kubuntu at home?09:58
Angelusif during kubuntu installation you choose "Entire Hard Disc" instead of manual configuration, will it delete the windows partition?09:58
arunkaleAngelus: yes, i think so09:58
sehejust kubuntu everywhere09:58
radiusit will Angelus09:58
arunkalesehe: i've been using kubuntu for around 2.5 years now09:58
arunkalejust thought i'd try something new09:59
arunkalesince i'm going to be repartitioning my disk tomorrow anyway09:59
sehearunkale: ubuntu is just kubuntu with gnome. Do you know gnome?09:59
arunkalesehe: not really, never used gnome09:59
sehearunkale: I'd say if you like KDE, you 'll probably feel it is a bit too bare...09:59
Angelusgnome is ugly09:59
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arunkaleAngelus: i thought gnome was ugly too, which is why i never checked it out10:00
sehearunkale: Nah i don't agree, but I think the interface is too 'numb' for me10:00
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arunkalei just installed it over kubuntu, though.. seems quite nice.. at least the theme i'm using10:00
sehearunkale: I like fast, rich and detailed interfaces10:00
arunkalequite slick10:00
AngelusKDE is the coolest10:00
Angeluseven windows vista copied the toolbar from kubuntu's toolbar10:01
sehearunkale: gnome is much more peaceful and i like to use it on the couch (the tele screen :))10:01
arunkalei dont care about windows vista, man10:01
mrksbrdgenii, you will never guess what happened........just plugged in and the drive, dialog box opened up, std "new drive recognized what would you like to do?" "unmounted device", ran mount option......and BAM it worked10:01
Arwenwhy is it that whenever anyone mentions Windows, everyone starts flaming?10:01
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mrksbrdnow i'm really confused10:01
ArwenI prefer GNOME too, simpler design.10:01
seheAngelus: I suppose it would be fairer to say Novell copied Vista's start menu but hey, enuf has been copied both ways10:01
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arunkaleArwen: i'm not flaming, i just don't care10:01
arunkalei dont hate it or anything10:01
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Arwenhint: good programmers borrow, great ones steal.10:02
radiusArwen, it's called fear (:10:02
Angelussehe: if you use kubuntu, go check window's toolbar, the one that has the - Sqaure X , to close and minimize the windows, its exacly like kubuntu's but black10:02
seheradius: Or just the sense of groupiness (my own term)10:02
arunkaleArwen: you seem to be the only one here who has nice things to say about gnome.. do you think i should install ubuntu (at least for a while) or stick with kubuntu10:02
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seheAngelus: agreed10:02
radiusppl only knock what they lack knowledge of10:03
Arwenarunkale, matter of taste.10:03
valentin13how  to make for download   it is sudo dpkg10:03
arunkaleArwen: what do you prefer?10:03
ArwenGNOME, but let's not go into that.10:03
arunkalewhy not :)10:03
sehevalentin13: please rephrase?10:03
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ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:03
valentin13shell command10:03
valentin13for donwload10:03
sehevalentin13: can you state a question? your half sentences do not make sence yet10:04
yukinoubuntu ayuda en espaol10:04
Arwenvalentin13, downloading packages is apt-get, downloading random stuff is wget.10:04
Arwenand yeah, complete sentences would help10:04
sehevalentin13: or curl10:04
radiusok 1 last time on this question - in tribe5 is there any support for kdm theme? in here?10:04
seheapt-get -d install10:04
Angelusi agree with you dough sehe , even KDE has copied some things from windows, so yeah both ways copied.10:04
radiuskdmrc has a reference i'm not familiar with10:04
sehevalentin13: -d for download only10:04
valentin13rpm no good10:05
seheAngelus: KDE of all linux WM's is most windows like (apart from IceWM with the W95 look and feel)10:05
sehevalentin13: try 'alien'10:05
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Angelusbut kde is nicer10:05
Angelusmuch way cooler and nicer then window's look10:05
valentin13i am gonn for donwload adobe flash player10:06
sehevalentin13: however, look at !repositories because debian packages are safer10:06
waylandbillthat's okay. KDE borrowed ideas from windows, but did things that windows lacked. That's best of both worlds and still open source. It's good in my book.10:06
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sehe!flash | valentin1310:06
ubotuvalentin13: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash10:06
radiuskde has come a long way since i started using it years ago - but i have been faithful and kept with it through good and bad10:06
yamal!es | yukino10:06
ubotuyukino: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:06
valentin13there is some trouble10:07
sehewaylandbill: hear hear. KDE has killer features to me (io slaves, fish, X protocol, kdm for terminal serving etc etc10:07
sehevalentin13: like what10:07
valentin13what i can donwload so10:08
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valentin13for watch ideo on internet10:08
valentin13 video10:08
sehevalentin13: sorry valentin, i cannot follow. What is your native language?10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
sehe!fr | valentin1310:08
ubotuvalentin13: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:08
waylandbillfish and kdm's xdmcp support are invaluable.10:09
seheallez-y je vous en prie :D10:09
valentin13since yesterday10:09
valentin13i must to get  java i think10:09
sehewaylandbill: I use it every day to all my colleagues amazement. They simply fail to grasp how I can run remote X applications seemlessly on my Kubuntu desktop. They fall apart once I do the beryl cube rotation :D10:10
waylandbillvalentin13: in firefox? try the mozilla mplayer plugin10:10
valentin13french room10:10
CPrompt^valentin13 : what videos are you trying to watch?  Youtube or something?10:10
valentin13i see10:10
sehevalentin13: cheers10:10
valentin13yes youtube10:10
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CPrompt^valentin13 : you just need the Adobe Flashplayer10:10
valentin13for beryl video10:10
CPrompt^valentine13 : http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux10:10
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valentin13beryl   is not working  in 3d10:11
CPrompt^vantine13 : download the tar.gz file and install that.  There is an INSTALL file just follow it10:11
CPrompt^beryl and flash = 2 different things10:11
sehevalentin13: it is not easy to set up (depending on hardware). That's why it is not 'main' yet10:11
valentin13i know10:11
valentin13i watch beryl in video you tube10:12
CPrompt^valentine13 : and now you want to install Beryl?10:12
sehevalentin13: I still have to tweak it every time I logon every day.10:12
valentin13i have donwload   beryl but he is not working  in kde10:12
sehevalentin13: ? downloaded  ? Why not use adept or synaptic?10:12
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valentin13i have install10:12
sehevalentin13: d'accord10:13
valentin13but not working10:13
valentin13no adept i prefer by shell consol10:13
sehevalentin13: shame. Like I said, non-trivial. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-beryl-with-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn.html10:13
CPrompt^valentine13 : you might try this : http://element14.wordpress.com/2007/01/16/how-to-install-beryl-on-kubuntu-610/10:14
CPrompt^if it breaks your computer, don't blame me :)10:14
sehevalentin13: i understand. When you say 'download' that suggests you do not use apt*10:14
seheCPrompt^: nor anyone :D10:14
valentin13i use apt10:14
CPrompt^sehe : LOL10:14
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sehevalentin13: i'm so relieved10:14
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sehevalentin13: :D:D:D10:14
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valentin13i prefer donwload package by shell console10:15
mrksbrdok got a ?, when opening a digital pic, linux doesn't auto resize the image for viewing, what can i do w/o modifying the file to allow me to see the whole image????10:15
seheDoes anyone have keyboard lockups (freezes) in KDE?10:15
CPrompt^I had Beryl running and then video card went out...had to reinstall Kubuntu from scratch.  Real pain10:15
seheCPrompt^: next time, boot into live cd, snatch /etc/X11/xorg.conf nd see how you go :D10:15
CPrompt^mrksbrb : what are you using to open the pic?10:15
valentin13what is  sudo and what10:16
sehe!sudo | valentin1310:16
ubotuvalentin13: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:16
valentin13i know10:16
sehethen why ask?10:16
CPrompt^sehe : ah.  good suggestion.  I tried to boot into recovery mode and copy xorg backup but it still crashed.  oh well10:16
valentin13for donwload package10:16
mrksbrdit defaulted to konquer10:16
geniimrksbrd: So your usb drive is back up and operarting as you expect now?10:16
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mrksbrdyea, on whatever we did last night, guess it just needed a full computer reboot10:17
CPrompt^mrksbrb : away from Linux ATM but you should have something under "View" I think that says "Tiles"???10:17
seheCPrompt^: no guarantees either way. Part of config beryl is installing restricted drivers anyway. No easy way to 'undo' taht without careful planning10:17
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CPrompt^sehe : no kidding.  Either way I have a nice install of Kubuntu Fiesty running now so *fingers crossed*10:18
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seheCPrompt^: I don't like relying on crossed fngers:) I trust my backups10:18
seheCPrompt^: and play safe :) It is my job, after all as well10:18
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sehe.... SO:10:19
seheDoes anyone have keyboard lockups (freezes) in KDE?10:19
CPrompt^sehe : LOL  yeah.  I have backups of all config files on hard drive as well as on disk.10:19
geniivalentin13: to install packages by apt-get   you should use sudo. if you are downloading files in console with some browser like elinks or by wget then you don't need sudo to download them, only to run the install procedure, like dpkg or make/make install or so on10:19
CPrompt^what are keyboard lockups?10:19
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seheCPrompt^: you can't type anything any more. Mouse still works10:19
valentin13no availabe  adobe word10:19
CPrompt^oh nevermind LOL10:19
mrksbrdCPrompt^, got it ty!!!10:20
seheCPrompt^: only X restart fixes it.10:20
valentin13sudo apt-get adobe flash player10:20
CPrompt^no, I have a problem with Firefox crashing though10:20
seheFrom the bug database, many people have it since early KDE 2... But no solution till today10:20
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seheMany separate simliar bugs, none fixed10:20
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seheCPrompt^: any particular site/situation?10:21
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CPrompt^sehe : no, just crashes every once in a while10:22
radiussounds like java issues10:23
radiusi used to get those until i correct the /plugin link10:23