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SeveredCrossAnyone have any issues with faac lockups?02:27
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skkanedo you still have to add nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-glx to restricted modules file?02:34
skkaneso that you don't have to install drivers on each boot02:34
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swjis it appropriate to talk about ubuntu art here?02:45
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AnRkeyWhy would the NetworkManagerDispatcher process take up 100% cpu usage for about 2 to 5 min every time I boot?02:47
AnRkeyCan some1 help me find more information to submit a bug report, I don't quite know what to report here02:47
mattyvAnRkey: try looking at dmesg for entries relating to NM02:52
AnRkeythanks02:52
AnRkeysheesh, it's only just stopped raping the CPU now02:53
mattyvlol, you might find some sort of cryptic message in that log that you can put in a bug02:53
mattyv'dmesg | less' will make it easier to read02:54
mattyvhave a look in /var/log/syslog too, that's where I've found NM entries02:56
AnRkeylooking now02:56
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AnRkeyok /var/log/messages has 2 lines about kernel something or others with eth103:02
AnRkeydmesg returned wireless card killswitch errors03:02
mattyvAnRkey: interestingly, my syslog has 15 seconds worth of NM retries and warnings because dhcdbd isn't running, eventually it works but I have a 2,5mb syslog file03:02
AnRkeyand so did var/log/syslog03:02
AnRkeysheesh03:03
mattyvdon't have your problem though so I guess it's something different03:03
AnRkeywell i have tailed 100 lines of each into output files that I will submit as a bug03:03
AnRkeymaybe they can work with me on it03:03
mattyvhopefully03:03
AnRkeyit's a dell laptop03:04
AnRkeyso hold thumbs03:04
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AnRkeyxps m17003:04
mattyvnice03:04
AnRkeyyeah and i have to give it back to the company i work for in 3 months cause i am leaving03:04
AnRkeysoooo sad03:04
AnRkeyat least it was used03:05
AnRkeyand at least it was happy while it had ubuntu on it03:05
AnRkeypoor thing03:05
AnRkeysome winblows user will get it next03:05
AnRkeythanks vor the help mattyv03:05
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mattyvno probs, wish I could provide more help but I'm no programmer03:07
AnRkeyI think I can at least submit now03:11
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AnRkeymattyv, found the bug, it's listed with very little info though03:14
AnRkeyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/12333203:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 123332 in network-manager "NetworkManagerDispatcher uses 100% CPU on startup" [Undecided,New] 03:14
AnRkeythanks ubotu u sexy bot03:14
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macacoHello again..03:20
macacohow i configure compiz to work fine03:21
ysth1.oO(some like it rough)03:23
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macaco?03:26
mattyvAnRkey: Good work, I'll have a look03:27
AnRkeymacaco, thats a very broad question mate03:28
AnRkeyu running gutsy?03:28
macacoyes i runing gutsy 32bit03:28
AnRkeyfully updated?03:29
AnRkeyand did you upgrade from feisty to gutsy or did you do a fresh install?03:29
macacofresh03:29
AnRkeygood03:29
AnRkeynvidia, ati or intel graphics03:29
AnRkeyor other?03:30
macacoi enable accelerate Nvidia and work corrrect03:30
AnRkeygood03:30
macacobut wen some effect and widnows manager don't working03:30
mattyvAnRkey: also attach your lspci -vv to that bug report03:30
AnRkeythen go to System > Preferences > Appearance03:30
AnRkeymattyv, will do that now03:31
AnRkeylspci?03:31
AnRkeymacaco, then click Desktop Effects03:31
mattyvlists your hardware i detail so the devs know exatcly what networking gear you have03:31
AnRkeytry normal03:31
AnRkeyif that works then try extra effects03:31
macacohow?03:32
AnRkeymattyv, shweet thanks03:32
AnRkeymacaco, did you do what i said above?03:32
macacoyes03:32
AnRkeySystem > Preferences > Appearance > Desktop Effects03:32
AnRkeyenable extra effects03:32
macacobut whre  i am in CompizConfig Setting now03:33
AnRkeymacaco, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager03:33
AnRkeydo that from console03:33
AnRkeythe settings-manager is in System > Prefferences03:33
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macacosudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager03:34
macacoand say03:34
macacoE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:34
happyface:O03:34
macacoE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:34
AnRkeyclose any other package manager03:35
macacook03:35
macacosorry :P03:35
AnRkeyno prob03:35
AnRkey:D03:35
AnRkeythen for extra toys in the settings-manager you can run  sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra03:35
AnRkeyhave fun03:35
macacoReading package lists... Done03:35
macacoBuilding dependency tree03:35
macacoReading state information... Done03:35
macacocompizconfig-settings-manager is already the newest version.03:35
macaco0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.03:35
macacoalready have  lol03:35
AnRkey:D03:36
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macacoand i install GT desktop two03:36
qidanyone know where I can get the wireless tools packages for gutsy 7.10? I'm attempting to follow the suggested workaround here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/50214/comments/4803:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 50214 in network-manager "can't connect to hidden network" [Undecided,Confirmed] 03:36
AnRkeyqid, have u tried looking for it with apt-cache search packagenamehere03:37
mattyvAnRkey: once you get that attachment up, confirm the bug by clicking where it says "status new". So far it's only been confirmed in comments so no dev will notice it03:37
AnRkeyok03:38
AnRkeythanks03:38
qidAnRkey: it's in there, but I'd assume it's the 7.04 version instead03:38
scizzo-evening everyone03:39
mattyvqid: https://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?03:40
qidcan't connect to that site03:40
qidis there an additional source or something like that I have to add to get 7.10 packages?03:40
macacois ok that i install GL desktop 2???'03:41
mattyvqid: try without the 's' in https:// and see03:41
mattyvI was used to launchpad which is https://03:42
AnRkeywhy?03:43
AnRkeyare the effects working?03:43
AnRkeyqid, have u tried it?03:44
AnRkeyif it's in the gutsy repo it might work03:45
AnRkeyor post a quetion on the bug03:45
qidyeah, I found wireless-tools and libiw29 in the gutsy packages, installing now and I'll see if it works03:47
macacohow add in my session compiz03:48
scizzo-macaco: wanna add it to start when logging in?03:49
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mssnlayamI upgraded to Gusty, looks like there is some problem with cups-pdf. Please take a look at this bash session and offer your thoughts. Thanks. http://dpaste.com/17988/03:53
AnRkeymssnlayam, one sec03:54
scizzo-mssnlayam: configure problem big time with cups... :P03:55
mssnlayam:)03:55
AnRkeymssnlayam, had the same problem today03:55
mssnlayamso, I guess a bug has already been reported?03:55
AnRkeymssnlayam, sudo apt-get remove --purge cups-pdf03:56
AnRkeythen if cups-pdf caused the upgrade to fail u can run03:56
AnRkeysudo apt-get -f install03:57
mssnlayamthe upgrade got over, that is my understanding03:57
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AnRkeyto finish the upgrade03:57
AnRkeyrun this03:57
AnRkeysudo apt-get -f install03:57
AnRkeyu can then try sudo apt-get install cups-pdf03:57
AnRkeythe configure problem was only an upgrade problem03:58
AnRkeyif u install it from scratch it should work03:58
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mssnlayamall right, removed cups-pdf, did apt-get -f install03:58
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AnRkeymssnlayam, what did -f install do?03:59
mssnlayamand now I am doing "apt-get install cups-pdf" and get the same error03:59
AnRkeyok then remove it and try again if a week or so03:59
mssnlayamoutput of removing and -f install http://dpaste.com/17990/04:00
larson9999can i client running gutsy log in via xdmcp to a server running fiesty?04:00
mssnlayamso, should I report a bug?04:00
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qidwonderful, the new network-manager requires a libc6 upgrade... which probably means upgrading half of everything to gutsy04:04
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scizzo-larson9999: you mean connecting to a feisty server?04:05
mssnlayamAnRkey: Thanks :)04:06
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larson9999scizzo-, yeah, via xdmcp from a gutsy client04:07
larson9999scizzo-, i can see the machine but it won't log in.  works just fine from fiesty though04:07
scizzo-larson9999: ok....you get any error?04:07
larson9999nope.  just when i click connect instead of giving me the login dialog for the server it gives me the dialog for the client04:08
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nickrudwhat are people using for hot keys under compiz/emerald?04:09
scizzo-larson9999: hmmm....sounds strange04:09
scizzo-nickrud: standard... :)04:10
nickrudscizzo-, hm, my metacity command bindings aren't working ... not suprising since metacity isn't running04:11
scizzo-nickrud: you are running the desktop effects? normal one?04:11
nickrudcompiz --replace , emerald --replace04:12
scizzo-nickrud: what hotkeys are you tryint to use?04:13
nickrudscizzo-, I normally have super-t for a terminal at 80x50; it's the only one I really want back04:13
scizzo-nickrud: not sure then.....if its a setup you are trying to do yourself then I dont know really04:14
scizzo-nickrud: check the settings for compiz in the preferences maybe?04:14
scizzo-nickrud: might find something there04:15
nickrudscizzo-, did a quick look, didn't see anything in either the gnome-compiz-manager or compizconfig-settings-manager . But, I look closer04:16
scizzo-nickrud: yeah I am not 100% sure myself so04:18
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scizzo-anyone can confirm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vmware-player/+bug/13535804:18
ubotuLaunchpad bug 135358 in vmware-player "vmware-player uninstallable" [Undecided,New] 04:18
scizzo-for me please?04:18
nickrudscizzo-, I did a dpkg -L on comizconfig-settings-manager, and there's an svg called category-key-bindings, so I think I will find it somewhere :)04:18
scizzo-nickrud: nice.. :)04:19
nickrudscizzo-, general settings, buried under there. I was looking at the surface04:20
scizzo-nickrud: hehe that usually is the case...good to have found it now though... ;)04:21
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nickrudscizzo-, yeah, I got a bit impatient. But I've got a decent working compiz on an ati 200 express, so I'm more than happy04:22
vlowthercompiz, bah.  Real Men use xmonad and like it!04:22
scizzo-vlowther: tvm04:22
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nickrudtwm is sufficient, really04:24
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vlowtherbah, too much window decoration04:25
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mssnlayamI get the following message from the kernel http://dpaste.com/17991/  my logfiles are getting filled :)04:26
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scizzo-mssnlayam: this is flooded in dmesg also?04:29
mssnlayamyes04:29
scizzo-mssnlayam: you wouldn't happen to have a serial device plugged to the machine?04:30
mssnlayamlike?04:30
mssnlayamis a USB mouse a serial device?04:31
scizzo-no04:31
mssnlayamthen no, no serial device added04:31
scizzo-you have any hardware that is not recognized maybe...04:31
scizzo-check with lspci if everything seems ok there...04:31
mssnlayamlooks okay to me04:32
mon^rchis anyone having problems with their extensions not working?04:32
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mbtAnyone here use Thunderbird and experiencing a memory corruption issue with glibc?04:33
scizzo-mssnlayam: try to use tail -f /var/log/dmesg04:33
mssnlayamscizzo-, is this related to LVM?04:33
scizzo-mssnlayam: hmmm raid?04:34
mattyvmon^rch: extensions for what, firefox?04:34
mon^rchyeah04:34
mon^rchI am thing about dist-upgrading and I need them to work04:34
mon^rchthinking04:34
scizzo-mssnlayam: the error is about input/output to a driver device anyway04:34
mssnlayamscizzo-: /var/log/dmesg remains the same, the output of dmesg changes every time, and /var/log/syslog keeps growning04:35
scizzo-mssnlayam: right...hmmm...hardware stuff...hard to know what exactly is going wrong here...04:35
mssnlayamhttp://marc.info/?l=linux-raid&m=110717904304319&w=204:35
mssnlayamsomething got to do with raid, will try to disable some service and see04:36
mattyvmon^rch: All good here, but I'm mainly using GranParadiso04:36
mattyvmon^rch: I should also say, 2.0.0.6 is still standard on Gutsy, so you should be fine04:36
mssnlayamhttp://www.google.com/search?q=dm-linear+device+lookup+failed&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a  looks like a lot of people have it04:37
scizzo-mssnlayam: maybe a general kernel problem04:37
mssnlayamhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evms/+bug/11561604:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 115616 in evms "Device-mapper errors: dm-linear, lookup failed" [High,In progress] 04:37
mssnlayam:)04:37
scizzo-yepp04:37
mssnlayamcool, so people are on top of this04:38
scizzo-mssnlayam: most of the time they are...04:38
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mssnlayamdoesn't hurt to say have one more nice thing said about the community04:39
scizzo-mssnlayam: hehe04:40
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tretleis anyone here using empathy?04:40
nickrudhah! and network manager Works For Me, finally!04:40
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tretleor if anyone could recommend a multi-protocol telepathy instant messenger which supports voice + video chat?04:42
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Arwentelepathy? o.O04:43
scizzo-tretle: ekiga?04:43
Arwenekiga can't read your mind04:43
tretlebased off of telepathy?04:43
scizzo-tretle: google?04:44
tretlehttp://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/04:44
tretlebut I was wondering if there is any that might not be listed there04:45
tretlebanter looks like it covers all of the requirements but its not in the official repos04:45
tretleand I cant find a deb or repo for it04:45
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scizzo-there is a ubuntu site about it04:47
tretlelink?04:47
scizzo-https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/IM/DesktopIntegrationSIPIM?action=show&redirect=MOTUIM%2FDesktopIntegrationSIPIM04:47
scizzo-old site though04:48
snadgeis debian dieing? i know this is ot.. but someone in here surely has a few cents on the subject ;)04:48
snadgeian left for sun.. wondering if he had cranky pants over ubuntu04:48
scizzo-snadge: old news04:49
scizzo-snadge: doesnt mean that its dying really04:49
tretletelepathy on ubuntu is practically non existent04:49
snadgeyeah i know its old news, just wondering what the relevance/impact of that will be04:49
tretlethe choice is telepathy04:49
tretlewhen banter is by far better04:49
tretlesorry " the choice is empathy04:50
tretlenot telepathy04:50
tretleyou know what i mean04:50
tretle:D04:50
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snadgei havnt been following the politics.. just know that obviously ubuntu has stolen the thunder.. and its based on debian.. leaving a kind of interesting situation04:51
snadgekind of like a parasite thats slowly killing its host ;)04:52
Arwenthe people that use Debian would never even consider touching Ubuntu. Same goes the other way.04:53
snadgei still use debian on my production web server04:55
snadgebut ubuntu for everything else.. including dev04:55
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snadgebut basically mark shuttleworth has taken debian in the direction that I always wanted it to go.. the power and correctness (in policy, licensing etc) of debian.. but made accessable to ordinary (or lazy like me) people :)05:03
snadgeremove some arrogance, add a whole load of stupidity.. voila hehe05:04
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forevertheunii'm searching like cray05:17
forevertheunicrazy*05:17
forevertheunidoes anyone has a gusty .deb with wine 0.9.4405:17
forevertheuniit's too much time to a compile05:18
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Arwenforevertheuni, I do05:18
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Arwenwine does take a good amount of time to compile though05:19
RAOFWhy would you bother?  Feisty packages work just fine.05:19
Arwenthey're 2 versions old05:19
geniiI'm curious why Gutsy Kubuntu cd install makes weird prepends to menu items, something like _:menu item kmenu:            Whereas apt-get install kubuntu-desktop doesn't05:19
forevertheuniArwen, long time since I dcc'd something from Irc :D05:20
Arwenforevertheuni, of course, I made them myself, so don't trust me05:20
ArwenI can send you the source packages too if you don't trust them05:20
forevertheuniArwen, it's ok05:20
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forevertheunitnx :D05:20
forevertheunidamn eve-online new patch..05:20
forevertheunidoesn't work with cedega05:21
Arwenhint: to run Windows applications, you should use Windows05:21
Arwen:-)05:21
geniiArwen: I agree05:21
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brmassaguys, im using kubuntu gutsy. i installed flash but my konqueror is crashing every single page where there is flash.05:22
geniiAnyopne else experiencing the _:menu item kmen:   thing or is it just me?05:22
geniibleh typos05:22
mattyvbrmassa: adobe flash plugin or gnash?05:24
brmassamattyv: adobe05:24
geniiAnyhow this is with Tribe 5 kubuntu CD, md5 check was fine. If I install Gnome Tribe 5 then do the sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   the menu items appear as normal.05:24
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brmassakonqueror, in fact, detect a flash page on the very first time and offer to install the adobe one automatically05:24
forevertheuniArwen, na..I have no windows05:25
Arwenthat's a shame, it's a good thing to have05:25
Arwenlet's the sun in for one05:25
forevertheuniO.o uh?05:25
scizzo-brmassa: I think there is a bug report about it krasching when using flash player05:26
forevertheunisome years ago I decided I would only have software I payed for in my computer05:26
forevertheuniso..I aint giving one euro to m$05:26
geniiMust be an expensive proposition05:26
brmassascizzo, yes, there is. but no solution there.05:26
Arwenforevertheuni, that doesn't make sense. So you bought Ubuntu?05:27
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mbtDid GNU make drastic changes to glibc or something?05:27
scizzo-brmassa: have you updated the system today?05:27
Arwenand hint: there's no such thing as m$05:27
SeveredCrossmbt: I don't think so, why?05:27
DanaG"m$" is a really really lame, overused attempt at humor.05:27
mbtSeveredCross, Because after upgrading, I am getting lots of crashes seemingly caused by glibc detecting memory corruption...05:27
DanaGAt least saying something like "Winderz" is somwehat funny.05:27
mbtAnd the same versions of some of this software on Feisty had no such problem.05:27
SeveredCrossWeird...I haven't seen any issues like that myself.05:28
scizzo-3133705:28
scizzo-is also over used05:28
mbtDoing things like opening mail messages in Thunderbird, and the like.  I was able to fix some, but not all, of the problem, by moving my old ${HOME} and starting over.  :-/05:28
forevertheuniArwen, bah...software that costs money05:28
forevertheuniArwen, late here05:28
forevertheuniinsognia05:28
ArwenCedega costs money >_>05:28
forevertheuniinsomnia*05:28
forevertheuniArwen, and I payed for05:29
brmassascizzo, doing this right now!05:29
scizzo-brmassa: ok05:29
scizzo-brmassa: cause someone updated his plugins today and seemed to have fixed it05:29
Arwenthat's 'paid' to you :-)05:29
scizzo-brmassa: not sure though....might still be broken.....problem with dev releases you know... :D05:29
forevertheuniwtf..the download didn't save?05:30
Arwenwhat client?05:30
forevertheunixchat05:30
forevertheuni:/05:30
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forevertheunioh..went to ~05:30
Arwenlook in ~/.xchat2/downloads05:30
darkstar61brmassa: could you post a link to a site that made konqueror crash?05:31
scizzo-brmassa: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/12830805:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 128308 in kdebase "[gutsy]  konqueror freezes when viewing flash (dup-of: 127944)" [Undecided,New] 05:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 127944 in openoffice.org "[gutsy]  Open Office applications don't start " [High,Fix released] 05:31
DanaGT.  Now that's cooler than numbers.05:31
mbtlol @ DanaG05:32
SeveredCrossbug 12830805:32
SeveredCrossbug #12830805:32
SeveredCrossDammit post the link you stupid bot.05:32
brmassadarkstart61, every flash site.05:32
SeveredCrossOh someone did already.05:32
SeveredCrossLOL05:32
brmassayoutube for eaxample05:32
geniiJust look it up on launchpad05:32
brmassaops... darkstar6105:33
DanaGWhere's the "go to specific bug number" box on Launchpad?05:33
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darkstar61brmassa: it works fine for me...05:34
wastrelis there going to be a way to easily disable gnome network manager in gusty?05:34
Arwenforevertheuni, oh yeah, by the way, I was talking about the windows in your house earlier :-)05:34
Arwenthey're nice to have05:34
wastrelthat's a feature request if not :] 05:34
darkstar61brmassa: i'm on a gutsy fully upgraded...05:34
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brmassaim updating now.05:34
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Arwenwastrel, system -> prefs -> sessions -> startup05:34
brmassamaybe thats it05:34
forevertheuniArwen, oh :D :/05:34
scizzo-just try to do todays upgrade and then try to reproduce the problem05:34
forevertheunilol05:34
Arwenit should just have a "remove and disable" option in the menu though05:34
forevertheuniArwen, I tend to have big door05:35
forevertheunidoors*05:35
forevertheuni:d05:35
wastrelArwen:  i also want to disable the daemons :]   just to be spiteful05:35
Arwen(MS Windows is also nice to have, but that'd get me flamed here)05:35
Arwen:-P05:35
mbtI wonder if my issues are 64-bit specific.05:35
Arwenwastrel, ps -e | grep network returns no processes05:35
Arwenso I think you're ok05:35
wastrelgrep Network05:35
Arwenoh, capitalized :-\05:35
dwidmannArwen: (I suppose you need something to fill all that extra hdd space :P)05:38
darkstar61brmassa: http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3442/testyoutubewu9.jpg05:38
Arwenextra? I'm at 99% usage, lol05:38
scizzo-darkstar61: let him test after he has upgraded his installation05:38
Arwenwastrel, you can do a apt-get remove network-manager05:39
darkstar61yep...05:39
wastrelso it would appear05:39
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brmassa_scizzo and darkstar61, its working! thanks05:42
scizzo-WEE!05:42
darkstar61good05:42
scizzo-apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade owns05:43
scizzo-:P05:43
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dfgasgood job on gusty guys, so far05:49
dfgasit is looking sweet05:50
DanaG!aptitude05:50
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide05:50
DanaGI like it better.05:50
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dfgashowever, i have to wipe it clean  :( gonna try out mce i may upgrade my 7.04 to 7.10t5 though05:50
dfgas6 os's and counting, lol05:51
darkstar61dfgas: positively... i do a fresh gutsy install on a test box and until now no major bad issues...05:51
dfgasi have none yet either05:51
dfgasits kickarse05:51
dfgasbut after seeing mce at a local computer store, i must mess with it till i like it, then i will get another system for it.05:52
darkstar61i'm only waiting for the kde4/oxygen things... :)05:52
dfgasi want to mess with kde4 as well05:54
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mluser-workis there a repository for installing freenx in gusty?05:55
Hobbseeunlikely05:56
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darkstar61mluser-work: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ?06:01
mluser-workdarkstar61: thank you06:01
darkstar61mluser-work: i don't tested it, so it could not work...06:02
mluser-workI'm trying it now..06:03
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mluser-workit seems I dont know how to add the gusty repo's.. changing feisty to gusty is not enough06:08
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darkstar61mluser-work: i guess freenx is stopped to feisty, on that repo... sorry06:11
SeveredCrossUh.06:11
SeveredCrossFirst, make sure you spell it right.06:11
SeveredCrossGutsy not gusty.06:12
SeveredCrossAnd then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade should be good.06:12
mluser-workoh.. hehe, thanks06:12
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vega-is it possible to see when a package has been installed? does dpkg/apt store the install date somewhere?06:20
stdinvega-: probably in the dpkg log, /var/log/dpkg.log06:21
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homerhomerhey all, I was wondering is gutsy noticeably faster feisty?06:24
homerhomeroops06:24
homerhomerhey all, I was wondering is gutsy noticeably faster THAN feisty?06:24
scizzo-homerhomer: how you mean faster?06:24
randy026hmm that's funny i read it right the first time lol06:25
SeveredCrossThat's because English is a predictable language.06:25
vega-stdin: yep, there it is, thanks06:25
SeveredCrossYou know what should be there, so your brain just fills it in.06:25
homerhomerjust very vaguely, like overall  - the bootup, gnome log in06:25
SeveredCrossIt does feel a mite faster to me but I really don't know.06:25
homerhomerdesktop responsiveness06:26
SeveredCrossI think the kernel is tickless which I've heard may help out a bit.06:26
SeveredCrossIt's pretty good for me, fairly responsive.06:26
scizzo-homerhomer: let me guess....compiz/emerald question in general?06:26
homerhomerno, I was just wondering on the effects of optimizations of the kernel and gnome stuff06:27
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scizzo-yes, I think so......06:28
homerhomerkewl, I know that I'll like, just doing a quick probe   :)   Thanks06:29
scizzo-I still have a very very new geforce card so can't really say its very good in linux just yet with the drivers that comes from nvidia06:29
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randy026is the tab extention in firefox broken for anyone else?06:38
randy026the ubuntu add-on one06:38
DanaG"Tabbrowser Extension", if that's the one, is dangerous -- even in the words of the creator.06:46
DanaGTry "Tab Mix Plus", instead.06:46
DanaGI don't get why they even packaged TBE, anyway... it's just asking for breakage.06:46
randy026really...06:48
randy026ok I like TMP anyway thats what I used on windows I just assumed it didnt work in linux or something since they had that06:49
DanaGWow, Firefox's info bar is soooo slow to open, and eats 100% CPU while opening.06:50
DanaGNot very nice.06:50
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DanglyBitshow do i install acrobat 9 for gutsy?06:58
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nickrudDanglyBits, according to the adobe site, 7.0.9 is the latest for linux07:01
DanglyBitshow do i install acrobat 7 for gutsy?07:01
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dfgasran into the first problem07:02
dfgasbooted up and compiz.real and it was bouncing back and fortth on my cores and making my cpu work at 100%07:03
dfgasi shut desktop effects off and nothing, i had to kill the process07:05
nickrudDanglyBits, download the one from adobe http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=10&platform=unix and follow the instructions07:05
DanglyBitshow can i install the beta for kde 4 on my gutsy system?07:06
scizzo-DanglyBits: beta of kde?07:08
scizzo-dfgas: what happens if you use compiz --replace instead?07:08
scizzo-dfgas: not using the normal desktop effects and so on?07:08
dfgasi don't know this is the first time it happened07:08
dfgasi booted up and i started downloading something and all the sudden i was at a bare desktop again07:09
scizzo-right07:10
DanglyBitskubuntu has beta of kde 4...how to install that with gutsy ?07:10
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msikmaHey everyone07:53
msikmaJust wondering, could you point me to where I can turn off extra desktop effects via terminal? Because I just restarted and it seems it's only going into effect now, and it doesn't seem to like it07:54
Tomcat_msikma: metacity --replace should work I think.07:56
msikmaWhen I try that, it says "unable to open X display"07:58
msikmaI'd like to note that by saying it "doesn't like extra desktop effects", it's continually crashing while I try to start it :P07:59
ysth1I've heard people say compiz is faster (at what?) than metacity - if so, why metacity at all?07:59
crdlbDISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace07:59
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msikmacrdlb: I'm trying this now, it waited for a while and then said it couldn't open display 0. But my X server just gave another error message saying "I'll try to restart the X server in 2 minutes", so then I'll try again08:00
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mattyvysth1: compiz requires 3d acceleration if im not mistaken, i would say close to a majority of ppl don't have that yet. Plus compiz isn't as stable08:02
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msikmaNope, I don't seem to be able to use "metacity --replace", even with the DISPLAY prefix or while the X server is trying really hard to start up.08:04
msikmaAny other way I can try to fix this?08:06
msikmaI don't know where to find the config files for "desktop effects".08:07
msikmaTime to file a bug, then :P08:09
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Tomcat_msikma: The config files for desktop effects are in the gconf directory... i.e. you have to use gconf to change configs.08:15
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shirishhi all, is there anyway to get a font list on the system?08:19
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msikmaTomcat_: I see, but that can be done with command line, right?08:20
shirish!fonts08:20
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer08:20
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msikmaThanks for the help, I'll file a bug report and come back later to try and fix it :)08:23
shirish!lsb-release08:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lsb-release - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:40
shirish!lsb_release08:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lsb_release - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:40
Hobbseeshirish: what about it?08:41
Hobbseeshirish: you want lsb_release -a08:41
shirishHobbsee: ah yes, that's what I was searching for, there should have been a short manual entry for it :(08:42
stdinman lsb_release ?08:43
stdinor !version08:43
Hobbseestdin: the former08:44
shirishstdin: man lsb_release works not the latter.08:44
Hobbseeshirish: the bot doesnt contain every man entry, for good reason08:44
Hobbsee!version08:44
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell08:44
Hobbseethe latter works - it's a bot command08:44
shirishHobbsee: oh you meant ubotu08:44
shirish!ubotusnack08:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubotusnack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:44
Hobbseeshirish: if it's prefaced with a !, that's usually an indication that i'ts for an irc bot.08:45
Hobbseeshirish: have you ever seen !'s used for the start of a command, in the console?08:45
shirishHobbsee: not yet :P08:45
stdinafter "man lsb_release", !l is interesting...08:46
stdinerm, !m rather08:46
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shirish!botsnack08:49
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!08:49
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shirishHobbsee: stdin: do you guys know if lsb-release is installed from the daily/alternate CD or not.08:51
Hobbseeit is08:51
stdinit should be installed with ubuntu-minimal anyway08:51
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Hobbseeyeah, it's in -minimal08:52
shirishstdin: ok cool, btw how did you find that out that its part of ubuntu-minimal from lsb-release?08:53
stdinone way is to do "apt-cache rdepends lsb-release"08:54
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shirishstdin: I tried that08:55
=== Hobbsee then checked rdepends to check.
shirishshirish@Mugglewille:~$ apt-cache -rdepends lsb-release08:55
shirishE: Command line option 'r' [from -rdepends]  is not known.08:55
Hobbsees/check/confirm08:56
Hobbseeshirish: read reply.  look.  think.  try again.08:56
stdinno dash in the command08:56
Hobbseedont put yourself higher on the idiot list.08:56
Hobbseeit's an award you *dont* want to win.08:56
shirishHobbsee: oh yeah, the -08:57
Hobbseeyep08:57
shirishmy mistake08:57
Hobbseeit's amazing how things dont work when you put in the wrong command :P08:57
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shirish!girls09:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about girls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:04
shirish!girl09:04
ubotuGirls dont exist on the internet.  See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 | For more interesting reading, see http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/04/13/how-to-not-be-an-asshole-a-guide-for-men/09:04
shirishHobbsee: that was an excellent addition to the factoids09:04
shirishHobbsee: I'm going to put that up on my LUG mailing list, both the url's09:05
Hobbseeshirish: :)09:06
Hobbseeshirish: yeah, i found that yesterday, and thought it was really good09:06
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aroonifolks on gutsy; eclipse is crashing like nobody's business;  i also have java runtime 6  up09:08
arooniand thats supplying java for eclipse09:09
Hobbseethen fix it?09:09
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shirishHobbsee: nah, I didn't like the second one, too short & somewhat compressed09:12
shirishHobbsee: the first one is entertaining (as I am an MMORPG fan) also & it does make more sense.09:12
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shirishHobbsee: also lot of youngsters here are also into MMORPG even though the net connectivity is not so conducive.09:14
pwnguinanyone know how to ask randr what the current rotation is?09:15
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shirishpwnguin: I believe 'xrandr' gives you some insight09:17
pwnguindefault connected 1440x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right) 0mm x 0mm09:17
pwnguinin feisty it'd show up explicitly, now it only shows if it's not normal =(09:17
shirishpwnguin: dunno much about it, xrandr has a manual page about it, and google might help09:21
pwnguinhmm.09:21
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pwnguinthe resolution applet knows about it somehow09:21
shirishbbl guys09:26
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pwnguini think --verbose is what i needed09:28
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hunoHi There :)09:33
scizzo-hello09:33
hunoanyone who managed to use the new serial service of libbluetooth2 from python?09:33
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scizzo-huno: never tried09:46
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c1|freakywhat is a good desktop search program i can use for kubuntu? im on gutsy tribe 5 where strigi was added but the daemon seems to keep crashing10:22
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Jordan_Usigh... It almost seems like VESA is going to be broken for Gutsy too :(10:29
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aroonihey folks; sound was working great on my t61 (intel-hda).... after compiling & installing alsa drivers from scratch......... but after installing some packages.... it looks like my sound doesnt work nemore10:52
arooniwhat shoul di do10:52
aroonireinstall sound drivers?10:52
Jordan_Uarooni, Is this happening in Gutsy?10:54
arooniJordan_U, yes10:54
Jordan_Uarooni, Have you filed a bug report or is one already filed?10:55
arooniJordan_U, havent filed one myself10:55
aroonidont know if its already filed10:55
Jordan_Uarooni, Please check for one10:56
Jordan_Uarooni, If the problem isn't know then it can't be fixed.10:57
arooniJordan_U, good point10:57
aroonii love ubuntu10:58
aroonion an unrelated note; how do i play back wmv files within firefox10:59
jussi01arooni: install ther firefox plugin for mplayer10:59
Jordan_Uarooni, Just right click and choose "open with movie player" then totem should automatically install the needed codecs, from then on they will play from within FF11:00
aroonijussi01, do u know what id type for sudo apt-get install ?11:00
arooniJordan_U, it installed them but i get black screen durin gplayback11:00
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Jordan_Uarooni, Did you try opening in Totem?11:00
arooniJordan_U, isn't ... open with movie player = totem?11:01
Jordan_Uarooni, Yes11:02
Jordan_Uarooni, Have you done that?11:02
arooniJordan_U, yes11:02
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Jazonhihi :-)11:05
Jazoni just noticed after about a week that my OOo is broke11:05
Jordan_UJazon, Using KDE?11:06
JazonJordan_U: yes11:06
Jazoni was forced to use KOffice :P11:07
Jordan_UJazon, There was a known bug about OO in KDE with tribe4, don't know if it has been fixed yet11:07
Jordan_UJazon, There is a work around in the bug report if it is the same bug11:07
Jazoni am trying a sudo apt-get install openoffice.org11:08
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JazonJordan_U: if that dooesnt fix it i will try the workaround11:08
Jazonhmmm there be weirdness here.... (after resuming from a suspend on my laptop)11:10
Jazongee, already there was 85.9 Mb of updates to OOo11:10
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JazonJordan_U: the update worked.  i have OOo back :-D11:17
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Jazonnot sure if this is a bug or not...11:34
Jazonhttp://rafb.net/p/Qxes9m39.html11:35
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Jordan_UJazon, It's a bug if you are connected to a wireless network / router with dhcp11:47
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Asad2005i have installed gusty and am looking for cpu temp applet for panel ? computertemp  is not in repos12:27
JazonAsad2005: ksensors ?12:30
Asad2005Jazon, I have installed xsensors but its not for panel and also gives this error "Sensor 'k8temp' not supported by xsensors"12:32
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Jazoni am running ksensors with no problem on my box (kde)12:33
Asad2005Jazon, sensors in command displays the cpu temp ok12:33
Asad2005Jazon, thanks anyhow12:34
Jazonok good luck12:35
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gnomefreakAsad2005: give me a sec there is one12:50
gnomefreakAsad2005: computertemp sensors-applet there should also be one in gdesklets gdesklets-data12:53
gnomefreakthere was a guide to set them up as well12:54
gnomefreakcant find it though12:54
Trewasand there's sensors-applet for gnome12:56
Trewasoh you mentioned it :)12:56
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gnomefreaktheres also CPu Frequency Scaling Monitor in the panel applets (right click gnome panel than add to panel it should be there by default or part of gdesklets but i dont thin i installed gdesklets12:58
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gnomefreakand there is more all you have to do is use apt-cache search or open synaptic and search01:00
Asad2005gnomefreak, i know about all these and wonder why they are not in synaptic search, i have enabled universe and multiverse01:02
gnomefreakare you sure you didnt just enable backports universe and multiverse?01:03
gnomefreakAsad2005: can you please post the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin01:03
gnomefreakgdesklets* in is main iirc01:06
gnomefreak!info sensors-applet gutsy01:06
ubotusensors-applet: Display readings from hardware sensors in your Gnome panel. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.12+dfsg-1 (gutsy), package size 96 kB, installed size 512 kB01:06
gnomefreakthats in universe and i think that is the most popular01:06
Asad2005gnomefreak, thanks all it seems that synaptic is hiding some apps and i am not familiar with its new GUI, i installed computertemp from command line ok01:08
gnomefreakk iirc ther eis a bunch of set up things you have to do but its been ages since i used any of them01:08
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mon^rchff is still pooched01:12
mon^rchwhy do I keep after dev versions of linux... I'll never know01:20
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mon^rchcan someone help me get my firefox extensions working? please...01:46
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Jordan_Umon^rch, In what way are they not working?01:52
mon^rchff hangs when I try to open it. ff preferences do not work either01:52
mon^rchif i delete my profile ff works01:53
mon^rch:/01:53
Jordan_Umon^rch, And if you start in safe mode?01:53
mon^rchdidnt try that01:53
mon^rchyou mean ff safe mode?01:53
Jordan_Umon^rch, firefox --safe-mode ( one of the things it does is disable all extentions )01:54
jsomerswhich is the extension causing the problem?01:57
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monarchlol it froze my comp02:00
Jordan_Umon^rch, Froze the entire OS or just FF?02:00
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monarchthe entire os02:02
monarchand now my nick is stuck :P02:02
monarchbut now i can start in safe mode02:02
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Jordan_Umon^rch, Can you get to a Console?02:04
monarch:( i miss my extentions02:04
monarchyes02:04
monarch:P02:04
Jordan_Umonarch, try killing firefox ( killall firefox-bin )02:04
monarchwhy? it works02:05
monarchjust without the extensions02:05
Jordan_Umonarch, I thought the OS was frozen, or was that temporary / dealt with?02:06
monarchi hard booted :/02:06
Jordan_Umonarch, You give up to easily :)02:06
monarchlol02:06
monarchperhaps02:06
monarchcan you get my extensions up?02:07
Jordan_Umonarch, I assume that they aren't just disabled?02:07
monarchyeah they're disabled02:07
Jordan_Umonarch, And when you enable them FF freezes ?02:08
monarchyup02:08
monarcher, hangs while opening02:08
Jordan_Umonarch, No matter which one, or does it freeze at the menu before you even actually enable them?02:08
monarchI cant open ff preferences02:09
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monarchhow do I enable my extensions?02:10
monarchduh02:11
mon^rchahem02:12
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mon^rchits one of my extensions that is causing it to hang... Jordan_U do you know a way around this maybe?02:14
Jordan_Umon^rch, I was hoping you could do it from safe mode02:14
ccookeInteresting...02:15
ccookeJust tried to open a video in Totem and got back:02:16
ccookeMessage: Error: No space left on the resource.02:16
mon^rchwell I know which one I think02:16
ccooke(There's plenty of both RAM and disk space)02:16
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mon^rchand wouldnt you know it my favorite extension is the one causing it to hang  :(02:17
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jussi01mon^rch: which one is that?02:18
mon^rchdel.icio.us bookmarks02:18
mon^rchi use it like constantly :(02:19
Jordan_Umon^rch, Try safe mode again and don't give up so easily this time if it crashes again? :)02:19
jussi01Jordan_U: I think it works fine for him now, just that his extention is crashing it.02:20
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mon^rchcant i just try and enable it normaly02:21
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mon^rch;)02:22
mon^rchholy.. freak my amarok icons are gone02:24
rentshi, i just couldn't figure out why gutsy's gives me just a beep in pc speaker instead of the original sound02:24
mon^rchlike all of them02:24
rentsany ideas?02:24
mon^rch:P02:24
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mon^rchI had to set all my fonts to 802:30
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Nick_HillXsane is causing a core dump on Gutsy. Considering filing a bug. Core is being dumped to /var/crash/  . Is it likely the dumped core contains sensitive information, or could it safely be published?02:33
mon^rchmy konversation tray icon is displayed improperly02:33
jussi01Nick_Hill: no Idea. I would wait until they ask - just tell them in the bug you have it if they want it02:35
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Nick_Hilljussi01, Thanks.02:38
jussi01:)02:38
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mon^rchI like the pidgin icons :)02:54
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mon^rchanyone know where the konversation tray icon is kept :D02:55
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davmor2bottom right next to everything else that is open03:04
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LattywareAnyone else find gnome-terminal to be broken?03:05
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jgmYeah03:09
jgmAnd updating the xterm package removes the desktop shortcuts to it03:10
jgmI think that gutsy is going all-GUI :)03:10
saispowhen a package is not synced with stable or testing debian, where can i say that ?03:11
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Trewassaispo: there is upstream version freeze in place, so saying that anywhere is not likely to help unless the new version fixes some serious bugs, for this there is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess03:20
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Trewasand afaik the packages are synced from unstable03:20
mon^rchis there a way I can revert to an old version of ff... or something so I can have all my extensions and the preferences and stuff?03:25
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mr-russHi, I'm wanting help formulating bug reports about dual monitor and intel graphics printing white lines on the screen?03:27
mr-russIs someone able to guide me a little in producing something that is reasonable to put on launchpad?03:28
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mon^rchcan someone make it so del.icio.us bookmarks works in firefox please03:37
jsomersthey work for me :x03:37
mon^rchno way! seriously?03:38
jsomersat least yesterday evening03:38
jsomersI'm still at work so I cannot test it at the moment03:38
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socis there a chace that xorg 7.3 will be shipped with gutsy?04:09
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gnomefreakdoubtful if they are not already working on it but if they are working on it it might be included04:13
anon32soc, unlikely04:13
gnomefreakwe cant take anymore new upstream packages04:13
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gnomefreakHobbsee: did anyone already start on xorg7.3?04:14
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Hobbseegnomefreak: bryce was looking into it04:15
gnomefreakHobbsee: ty04:15
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socah ok04:16
socwill there maybe be an backport?04:17
gnomefreakno04:17
gnomefreaknever backport xorf04:17
gnomefreakxorg04:17
socok04:17
gnomefreaki pinged him to find out if gutsy will get it04:17
gnomefreakwaiting for reply04:17
soci hoped that i could eventually use avivo for my laptop when gutsy is out ....04:17
gnomefreakit depends what he found in xorg7.3 (regressions or blocker bugs ect..) if it has a chance04:18
socah ok04:19
socso lets hope the xorg dev produced a stable release04:19
soc:-P04:19
Hobbseegnomefreak: it was mentioned in the dev team meeting a few weeks ago, iirc04:19
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gnomefreaka few weeks ago i was in hospital04:20
gnomefreakwithout my laptop04:20
anon32o.O04:20
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socwish me luck04:20
socjust compiled avivo from git ...04:20
socthe last tries have been desastrous ...04:20
anon32...Xorg keeps spiking my CPU for no apparent reason04:20
anon32any ideas?04:20
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Hobbsee!away | warbler04:35
ubotuwarbler: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines04:35
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SeveredCrossWait..Are we talking avivo like ATI?04:35
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squeHi! I am trying to use displayconfig-gtk, but no lack! Is there somebody here to help with this application? I think its totally bogus on my system :S (Gytsy tribe 5/ full updated)04:43
anon32eh? I never used it either, didn't trust it :-P04:45
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SeveredCrossDId you make sure to run it with root privileges?04:47
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squeanon32, SeveredCross: yes always with sudo04:51
SeveredCrossHmm.04:51
squebut its like not working at all04:51
squeI am using it on a laptop with nvidia go 7400 and restricted drivers04:52
SeveredCrossWhat about it doesn't work?04:52
SeveredCrossYou can't do anything?04:52
squeif I dont plug external monitor04:52
squeI can see 2 screens on the left04:53
SeveredCrossIt works for me..04:53
squeon from my laptop and one like external04:53
squeIf i try to change the resolution of internal screen and press ok04:53
squenothing changes04:53
squeand I get this report on terminal:04:53
sque(can I mass paste here?)04:53
sque(8 lines..)04:54
pvandewyngaerdesque:  try nvidia-settings04:54
squepvandewyngaerde:  with nvidia-settings everything works perfectly04:54
squealways worked, with any version and distro of linux :P04:54
squeGdk-ERROR **: The program 'displayconfig-gtk' received an X Window System error.04:55
squeThis probably reflects a bug in the program.04:55
squeThe error was 'BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)'.04:55
sque  (Details: serial 13 error_code 2 request_code 158 minor_code 2)04:55
sque  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;04:55
sque   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.04:55
sque   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line04:55
sque   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful04:55
sque   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)04:55
squeaborting...04:55
squeAborted (core dumped)04:55
squethis is the error I get from displayconfig-gtk when I change my resolution of my only one screen04:55
squeand res doesn't change04:55
anon32!pastebin | sque04:56
ubotusque: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:56
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sque:P04:57
squeanon32, SeveredCross: anyway, this works fine for you?04:58
SeveredCrossIt works for me, mostly fine.04:58
SeveredCrossIt just doesn't change the layout section, LOL.04:58
SeveredCrossI just changed a whole bunch of stuff.04:58
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SeveredCrossAnd it added a new section for it, instead of changing the old one.04:58
anon32sque, I never tried04:59
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squeI tryied to connect an external monitor and rerun the application05:00
squeit then detected both my screens as the model of the external :S05:00
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squeand I still can't change resolution or layout05:01
squeis there a plan to correct all this? I see an launchpad many many bug reports! This is not ready even for alpha version05:01
sques/an/on05:02
Hobbseesque: feel free to help fix.05:03
squeHobbsee: I wish I could, but have no idea on this :S05:03
squeI can only test :P05:04
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jeffferrari!info wine05:26
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.42-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 31957 kB, installed size 99904 kB05:26
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Do``how can i install the new pdf printer feature?05:47
jeffferrariI thought it was active out of the box05:48
jeffferrarilet me try05:48
Do``it's not active, my printer dialog doesnt look like this http://bp3.blogger.com/_r2XUlRoVDD4/RtEbLcNDOWI/AAAAAAAAAOU/kJZExGZ7glk/s1600-h/printing_ubuntu.jpg05:48
Do``xorg gui wasnt active out of the box either, when upgrading from feisty pack by pack stuff goes missing apparently :)05:49
jeffferrariyeah, thats the pic I saw in the marketing material05:49
jeffferrarilol - fresh install here... loving it too05:49
Do``any idea what package am i missing?05:50
jeffferraridude, very cliche'd - did you try just pressing "add printer"?05:50
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Do``yes05:50
Do``and when i try adding a new network printer by 'cups-pdf:/'05:51
Do``i cant find the generic pdf printer make and model in the list05:51
Do``only postscript and other usual stuff05:51
jeffferrariwierd... it was on my todo list to try out this feature - compared to working in apple support this is one of the ball breakers in default ubuntu installs05:52
Do``i didnt have the new 'screens & graphics' option either, until i installed some displayconfig-gtk or w/e package and restarted the gnome panel :P05:54
Do``i must be missing the cups pdf package whatever it's called05:54
jeffferrariyeah, I found a lot of the touted features needing a single apt-get or somesuch05:54
jeffferraribeen browsing launchpad trying to find correct places to report things05:55
slytherinDo``: Do you have ubuntu-desktop package installed (if using ubuntu, kubuntu-desktop otherwise).05:55
slytherinjeffferrari: You need apt-get dist-upgrade. :-)05:55
Do``slytherin: yes05:55
slytherinDo``: Did you do upgrade or dist-upgrade?05:55
Do``dist-upgrade05:56
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jeffferrarislytherin: actually, straight tribe 5 install05:56
jeffferrarislytherin: yes to ubuntu-desktop too05:56
slytherinDo``: I am surprised why don't you have that PDF printer.05:56
slytherinDo``: You can try one thing, try removing ubuntu-desktop, do apt-get update and then install it again.05:57
cr1ssI 've been trying to burn some Heroes episodes (avi) with K3b and Gnomebaker but I don't know why, both programs pop an error message and eject my disc.. why is that ?05:57
Do``slytherin: oki05:57
slytherincr1ss: What is error?05:57
cr1sslet me check again05:57
Do``omg. now it says i have 151mbs a new packages to install...05:57
cr1ssmedia is not formatted or unsupported !05:58
Do``including evolution and other stuff which i dont waaant :(05:58
slytherinDo``: I have seen such problems before.05:58
jeffferrarislytherin: should it be like that from a clean tribe5 install?05:58
Do``slytherin: okay, cups-pdf is there. new problem though, how do i reinstall with ubuntu-desktop, without it reinstalling evolution too?05:58
Do``totem too..05:59
slytherinDo``: Install system-config-printer for the new print dialog06:00
slytherinjeffferrari: Not related to gfresh install06:00
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Do``slytherin: thanks06:00
slytherinDo``: ubuntu-desktop is meta package. it doesn't provide any functionality. You can selectively upgrade other packages you want06:00
Do``slytherin: i'll just upgrade everything it suggests, removing all the crap i dont want06:01
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slytherinDo``: As you wish.06:01
cwilluanyone with any experience with unredirect-fullscreen-windows?06:02
jeffferrariyeah, I noticed its a meta package, but didn't trigger any dependencies... I'll have a look at the dep and try and figure out whats happening06:02
slytherincwillu: What is that?06:02
cwillulong story :p06:03
cwilluvideo playback is very choppy when fullscreen unless I turn that on06:03
cwilluthe catch is that apps don't seem to come back after unfullscreening them06:04
cwillujust get a black screen06:04
slytherincwillu: Which media player?06:04
cwilluvlc that I've tried so far06:04
slytherincwillu: Do you have compiz enabled?06:04
cwilluyes06:04
cwilluvideo playback is easy if compiz isn't running :p06:05
slytherincwillu: Try turning that off. I have seen video playback problems when using compiz06:05
cwilluyes, I know it works fine if you turn it off06:05
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alberticoHi.06:06
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alberticoI installed kde4base and I have this error:06:06
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Do``slytherin: it's working now, thanks for the help06:07
cwillualbertico: ?06:07
jeffferrariDo``: just for the record, got mine working by just reinstalling cups-pdf06:09
Do``i didnt have that installed :)06:10
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forevertheunihi all06:16
mendredoh brilliant nspluginviewer has started working again..woohoo..06:17
forevertheuniis networkmanager broken to you too?06:17
forevertheunito change Accesspoint in wireless I need to kill all networkmngr related stuff and do a iwconfig ethX essid AP06:17
forevertheuniand other thing06:17
cwilluforevertheuni: more specific?  works fine for me06:17
forevertheuniwhen I start computer I have IP06:17
forevertheuniand after a while I have to manually do dhclient eth106:17
forevertheunibecause the iface goes down06:18
cwilluforevertheuni: what does uname -a say?06:18
forevertheunikernel version?06:18
forevertheuni2.6.22-10 generic "smp "06:18
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cwillui.e., you're running a completely normal kernel?06:19
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forevertheuniyes..06:20
forevertheunionly alsa compiled modules06:20
cwilluk06:20
forevertheunibut..it was like this before..06:20
forevertheunisure it's not alsa anyway :D06:20
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forevertheunieven if I do dhclient when I have ip06:20
cwillucfs and sd expose a bug in networkmanager, but you won't be running those then06:20
forevertheuni(right in the beginning)06:20
forevertheuniit stops06:21
cwillucheck bugs.launchpad.net;  likely somebody has run into it, and there might even be a workaround06:21
forevertheunik06:22
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Asher256Hi, i've a bug with vim-addons package i think06:30
Asher256(in Ubuntu Gutsy)06:30
Pici!bugs06:30
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots06:30
Asher256!bugs06:30
Asher256:)06:30
Asher256ubotu, you're a bot ?06:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you're a bot ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:30
Pici!bot06:31
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:31
HobbseeAsher256: i suspect it's already filed, and waiting in teh sponsorship queue06:31
Asher256ubotu, lol06:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:31
Asher256Hobbsee, it's about vimplate06:31
Hobbseeright06:31
Hobbseethen probably different to what i saw06:31
Asher256Hobbsee, I've this error : Use of uninitialized value in opendir at /usr/bin/vimplate line 216.06:31
Asher256Hobbsee, vimplate is in vim-scripts package,06:31
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squehi!06:34
HobbseeAsher256: probably worth filing, then06:35
Asher256Hobbsee, ok06:36
Hobbseeassuming it's not already filed.06:37
Asher256Hobbsee, you've an idea to fix that ?06:37
Hobbseenot at this time of night.06:37
Asher256Hobbsee, it's night ?06:37
Hobbseehere it is, yes.  2.37am06:37
Asher256Hobbsee, lol... normal, i'm in GMT :-p06:38
Asher256Hobbsee, The error is here, if you know perl : opendir(DIR, $Config::opt->{dir});06:38
Hobbseei dont, and feel free to do a patch06:38
Asher256Hobbsee, yes, i will do that...06:39
squeI destrhi!06:40
squeerm sry06:40
squehi!06:40
sque:p06:40
Asher256Hobbsee, anyway, thanks a lot ^_^06:40
squeI destroyed my xorg.conf. How can I get a correct initial xorg.conf again?06:41
Asher256Hobbsee, i'm going to post this bug un launchpad..06:41
cwillusque: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should do the trick06:41
cwillujust take the defaults for everything06:41
squeaxa!06:41
squeI tried it but it was too confusing :p06:41
squeso i'll just select the default06:41
sque;)06:41
squety06:41
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ironmatari know your all hard at work on gutsy   i seem to be haveing a real issue with fiesty though   i just installed the alt iso once agian  and the sigkill and reboot worked finnaly  but i think my issue that keeps cropping up is related to one of 117 update packages  as every time iv run those  afterwords my systm worn boot at all07:37
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ironmataror i get the litle loading icon but ubntu never finisheds startup07:38
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Carroarmato0Hi, I'm looking for a way to configure compiz in Gutsy... I can't find the compizconfig package07:39
SeveredCrossWhen you get to the grub menu, press e to edit the kernel's boot lines. edit the 2nd line (the one with all the kernel options) to say nosplash verbose instead of splash quiet.07:39
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SeveredCrossThen find the error message.07:39
SeveredCrossAnd come back.07:39
ironmatarpardon was that for me?07:40
SeveredCrossYes.07:44
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ironmatarok07:47
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ironmatarSeveredCross:  should i edit that before doing the updates?07:54
SeveredCrossNo, after.07:54
SeveredCrossAfter you reboot post-update.07:55
ironmatarok07:55
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mamefanIs there a package that contains the 3d, and screensaver compiz plugins for gutsy?  It looks like the ones I was using are gone (*-unsupported and *-unofficial)08:01
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gnomefreakmamefan: try asking in #ubuntu-effects08:16
ironmatarand just to make shure i understand  edit both -15 and -16 or just the new -16 image?08:16
crdlbmamefan, no08:17
crdlbas -unsupported is well...unsupported :P, it won't be in gutsy08:18
crdlband unofficial is just some package trevinho invented for random plugins that are completely unmaintained08:18
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mssnlayamI get the following error (Problematic frame: ... gtk_tooltips_set_tip+0x1dc) repeatedly with eclipse (Java IDE), looks like there is some problem with the gtk libraries  http://dpaste.com/18046/ has the entire log08:38
ironmatarSeveredCross:  i saw in the list a error code 14  as it went by  and fsck failed and exited with a stats of 12708:39
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ironmatari actually thought i had gotten bast that blasted thing somehow logged in and everthing but it kept rebooting after a few moments08:45
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mssnlayamI get the following error (Problematic frame: ... gtk_tooltips_set_tip+0x1dc) repeatedly with eclipse (Java IDE), looks like there is some problem with the gtk libraries  http://dpaste.com/18046/ has the entire log09:00
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ScislaCam I the only person still having keyring issues?09:02
ScislaCI have a nice new default.keyring in ~/.gnome2/keyrings even09:03
ironmatari saw in the list a error code 14  as it went by  and fsck failed and exited with a stats of 12709:03
ironmatarthts my current problem09:03
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michielHi everybody09:18
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rexyo/ michiel09:26
ironmataro/09:26
ironmatar any help for this i saw in the list a error code 14  as it went by  and fsck failed and exited with a stats of 12709:26
michielHello09:35
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michielHmm, still haven't been able to un-explode my Gutsy09:36
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rexywell i managed to break some stuff, but most stuff still works09:41
rexythough i'm quite sure the laptop will work much better once i put the power inverter for the lcd back in09:41
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mrtimdogHi, has anyone else looked for the jack plugin in the libasound2-plugins package and wondered where it was?09:43
michielrexy: you don't happen to know anything about un-exploding the "extra desktop effects" after you find your X server no longer starting up?09:44
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rexyi have no idea where ubuntu puts that particular config file michiel09:51
rexyit's in your home directory09:51
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anon32...apparently Ubuntu+2 is going to be "Hardy Heron"? Aside from the fact that the letter 'H' has already been used, that one sounds even worse than Feisty Fawn did.09:59
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mon^rchwhat happens when they reach the end of the alphabet?10:31
mon^rcha?10:32
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ggilbertmon^rch:  I don't think it's been decided yet. There's still 9 years to sort it out though. :)10:38
mon^rch:D10:38
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mon^rchhic10:39
theinehi, can one actually change the number of workspaces in gutsy?10:40
theineunder gnome that is10:40
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mon^rchin compiz-config settings manager you can make it as big as you want... under general options...10:45
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shirish!winzip10:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about winzip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
shirish!info unzip10:47
ubotuunzip: De-archiver for .zip files. In component main, is optional. Version 5.52-10ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 150 kB, installed size 340 kB10:48
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shirishguys does somebody which would be the right tool to unzip ipw6591a.zip ipw6591b.zip till ipw6591h.zip10:49
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mssnlayamMy fonts look bad after upgrading to Gusty. How do I check if everything is in order?10:56
pwnguinhow is it that ogm is so poorly supported by gstreamer / mplayer?11:00
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mon^rchi had to change all my fonts to 8...11:04
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SeveredCrossThat's what it is--everything's set too damn big.11:05
SeveredCrossIs it 10 or 12 by default?11:05
SeveredCross12, because i'm at sans 1011:05
mssnlayamwhat is the default ubuntu configuration?11:06
SeveredCrossSans 10 I believe.11:06
SeveredCrossI usually change to Serif 10, because I'm weird and prefer serifed fonts.11:06
mssnlayamis there some way to look at relevant config files and check that my settings match what others have got?11:06
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DanaGI usually use the DejaVu fonts.11:06
SeveredCrossSystem --> Preferences --> Appearance11:06
DanaGI wonder why those aren't default.11:06
voidmagewhat's the new sync feature in kontact and how can I use it?11:06
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malnilionWhen I rightclick and tell ask Ubuntu to open a file (let's say a video) with a certain program, it does not even attempt to open the program and play the video.  Anybody know how to fix that?11:23
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=== anon32 likes MS fonts, thank you
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anon32gah, updates without descriptions, wtf12:21
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Scorpaenmy kdm broke during an update i think. how do i fix it?12:44
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Scorpaennvidia module loads, then i get a pale yellow screen12:45
anon32depends, how is it broken?12:45
Scorpaencan't even kill x12:45
Scorpaeni'm booted in recovery mode now12:45
Scorpaenusing irssi12:45
anon32what does Xorg.0.log say?12:45
anon32/var/log/Xorg.0.log, look for errors12:46
Scorpaenlet's see if i can open another console and look. thanks. brb12:46
Scorpaennope. can't open another one12:46
anon32hmm12:46
Scorpaenhmmmmm12:46
anon32!screen12:46
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen12:46
anon32very useful when you're stuck on a consolke12:46
anon32console*12:46
Scorpaenheheh12:46
Scorpaeni know an update busted my system. is there a way to downgrade xorg or kdm?12:47
anon32apt-get install package=version number12:47
Scorpaenalright12:47
anon32make sure that if it's a multi-part package, you add each part to the command12:47
Scorpaenso what's the working version of kdm pleaes?12:47
Scorpaenuh oh. i did 128 updates12:47
Scorpaeni could be in trouble12:48
anon32hmm12:48
Scorpaenand i have school work to do before work tonight12:48
anon32got a live CD12:48
anon32?12:48
Scorpaenyeap12:48
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Scorpaengutsy alpha312:48
anon32urgh :-\12:48
Scorpaenthat didn't sound good12:49
Scorpaenheh12:49
Scorpaeni survived Gentoo desktop for 3 years.. i know i can fix this12:50
Scorpaensomehow.12:50
Scorpaenlol12:50
Scorpaeni got tired of compiling KDE12:50
Scorpaenin hindsight, i work and go to school and shouldn't be using a testing distro12:51
Scorpaenbut we all know hindsight is 20/2012:51
Scorpaen:)12:51
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Scorpaenok. i'm going to go check out xorg logs12:53
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Scorpaeni might be bakc12:53
Scorpaenbye now12:53
ArtimusIs there a way I can unsubscribe from an ubuntu mailing list through email?  The web frontend won't unsubscribe me.  I'm getting too much email from gutsy-changes and would like them to stop...12:55
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Scorpaenok. xorg is fine. it's kdm that's broken12:58
Scorpaen'stack smashing attempt'12:59
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Stormx2PHP-CLI appears to be broken. I am receiving "Illegal instruction (core dumped)", can anyone else confirm?01:00
Scorpaenkdm fix anyone?01:00
Scorpaenam i the only person whose kdm broke today?01:02
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