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| shirish | Ubulette: you up m8? | 06:54 |
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| shirish | anybody else up? | 07:16 |
| hjmf | Admiral_Chicago: thanks | 07:29 |
| hjmf | <asac> hjmf: is crux a standard theme (e.g. do we provide that by default?) | 07:29 |
| hjmf | asac: yes iirc | 07:30 |
| hjmf | asac: gtk2-engines and gtk2-engines-ubnutulooks are installed by default | 07:31 |
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| hjmf | the themes that come with gtk2-engines are: libclearlooks.so libcrux-engine.so libglide.so libhcengine.so libindustrial.so libluaengine.so libmist.so libredmond95.so libsmooth.so libthinice.so | 07:35 |
| hjmf | asac: ^^^ | 07:35 |
| asac | hjmf: thanks | 11:14 |
| asac | hjmf: can you add the gtk2-engines package as a target to that bug and let me know? | 11:15 |
| asac | i will then bug seb about it | 11:15 |
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| shirish | asac: you up m8? | 11:47 |
| asac | not really up ... but at least flat :) | 11:47 |
| shirish | lol :P | 11:47 |
| shirish | asac: Is Ubulette keeping gnash too in repository or know anybody who's doing that also? | 11:48 |
| asac | i don't think so | 11:48 |
| asac | i update gnash in official archives from time to time | 11:48 |
| shirish | asac: oh ok, for I saw gnash got to rc3 just a few days back. | 11:49 |
| asac | 0.8.1 ? | 11:49 |
| asac | ok thanks for the info | 11:49 |
| asac | i will talk to them if its worth another release | 11:50 |
| asac | but i hoped to have it final already :) | 11:50 |
| shirish | 2007-08-29 0.8.1 | 11:50 |
| shirish | http://www.gnashdev.org/?q=node/42 | 11:50 |
| shirish | asac: it would be nice to see the new version in ;) | 11:52 |
| asac | yes ... i will figure out ... if they plan to release final tomorrow or so then i will just wait :) | 11:53 |
| asac | but i doubt that it brings any significant improvements over what we currently have in gutsy | 11:53 |
| shirish | asac: I know what you mean, but who knows, for times when I'm on some sites with gnash, it just freezes, nothing happens :( | 11:54 |
| asac | if you can reproduce it by just starting gnash URL.swf ... then let me know | 11:55 |
| asac | upstream certainly wants more of those cases posted | 11:55 |
| shirish | asac: that way... ok. will try. For right now, I do know that for e.g. in facebook it sometimes freezes and I get some error. | 11:57 |
| shirish | asac: something about threads not cleaned up or something like that. | 11:57 |
| asac | hmm | 11:57 |
| asac | well reproducing in standalone gnash player is better to nail down the problem | 11:58 |
| shirish | asac: ok will try that, here's an excerpt of what happened yesterday, also day before that. | 11:58 |
| shirish | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36078/ | 11:58 |
| asac | shirish: but other flash things work for you? like youtube? | 11:59 |
| shirish | asac: some flash movies work on youtube, some don't, 40-60 perhaps. | 11:59 |
| shirish | asac: i.e. 40% working-60% not working something like that. | 12:00 |
| asac | strange | 12:00 |
| asac | but might be true ... what do you see in log for those that don't work? | 12:01 |
| asac | (e.g. on console) | 12:01 |
| shirish | asac: haven't really seen, would look & report back, where do you think the testcases should go? | 12:01 |
| shirish | asac: sorry I meant logs about movies which don't work, where they should go? | 12:02 |
| asac | to a bug report ... if its reproducible | 12:02 |
| asac | then we can forward upstream | 12:02 |
| asac | shirish: start ffox from console | 12:02 |
| shirish | asac: ok will do ;) | 12:02 |
| asac | then you will see the gnash output on console | 12:02 |
| shirish | asac: I always do that ;) whether ff, ff-gp or ff-tr ;) | 12:03 |
| asac | good | 12:03 |
| asac | then you should be well prepared ;) | 12:03 |
| shirish | asac: maybe you can help | 12:03 |
| asac | me? | 12:04 |
| asac | on what? | 12:04 |
| shirish | asac: I'm looking for one of those price comparator addons/scripts on greasemonkey, any recommendations or ideas? | 12:04 |
| asac | no ... i am really a user with little need for extra/addons et al | 12:04 |
| shirish | asac: or even just addons for ff which do price comparisions between some sites | 12:04 |
| asac | no idea ... sorry | 12:04 |
| shirish | asac: ok understood, any idea who would be the guy to know stuff like this? | 12:05 |
| asac | i think i only have ubufox extension installed :) | 12:05 |
| asac | no idea ... maybe on mozillazine forums | 12:05 |
| asac | at least they should point you to the right forum if its off-topic there | 12:05 |
| shirish | asac: does the mozillazine forums follow the https:// protocol? | 12:07 |
| asac | you really ask too much :) | 12:07 |
| asac | i would have to try to know :) | 12:08 |
| asac | http://forums.mozillazine.org/ | 12:08 |
| asac | its just http | 12:08 |
| shirish | asac: isn't that a pity :( | 12:08 |
| asac | maybe they use it for login | 12:08 |
| asac | otherwise ... its not really sensible data on there | 12:08 |
| asac | so ... i have no hard opinion on it | 12:09 |
| shirish | asac: negative, they don't use it for login also | 12:09 |
| asac | yeha ... i have no problem with it | 12:09 |
| asac | just pick a trivial password :) | 12:09 |
| asac | like "trivialpass" :) | 12:10 |
| shirish | lol, that's a good one ;) | 12:11 |
| asac | or "snifferscomein" | 12:15 |
| asac | snifferswelcome | 12:15 |
| shirish | asac: when you update a password, does it remember that it has been updated? It does though ask to remember. | 12:17 |
| asac | why don't you just try ... iirc it should ask you to remember | 12:19 |
| shirish | asac: I just tried, it makes another one, this is not good :( | 12:20 |
| asac | what do you mean? | 12:20 |
| asac | if you use a new login id you will have two afterwards | 12:20 |
| asac | when you use the same login id but change password it should overwrite from what i can tell | 12:21 |
| shirish | doesn't matter really, I just resolved it, I removed both stuff & did it right. | 12:23 |
| asac | ok ;) | 12:23 |
| asac | i am happy when you are happy :-D | 12:24 |
| shirish | :) | 12:24 |
| asac | at least until someone else gets unhappy :-P | 12:25 |
| shirish | asac: than | 12:39 |
| shirish | oops | 12:39 |
| shirish | I just wanted to say thank you for your efforts | 12:39 |
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| hjmf | <asac> hjmf: can you add the gtk2-engines package as a target to that bug and let me know? | 05:06 |
| hjmf | asac: done :) | 05:06 |
| hjmf | bug #129007 and bug #133277 (which can be tag as dup of the former IMHO) | 05:07 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 129007 in firefox "MASTER firefox-bin crashed with crux theme [@moz_gtk_widget_paint] at #10" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129007 | 05:07 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 133277 in gtk2-engines "[GUTSY] firefox crashed [@moz_gtk_widget_paint at #6] [@nsNativeThemeGTK::DrawWidgetBackground] " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133277 | 05:07 |
| asac | hjmf: thanks | 05:09 |
| asac | hjmf: did we ever get a success full auto-dupe from retracers? | 05:11 |
| hjmf | asac: yes, but just only in a couple of cases in thunderbird, since always either at ff and tb we get the apport-failed-retrace | 05:15 |
| hjmf | so there the autodupe does nothing | 05:15 |
| hjmf | asac: do you know why we cannot get good coredumps and why the users when they retrace with firefox -g they get good retraces? | 05:15 |
| asac | hmm | 05:17 |
| asac | are the retraces really bad? | 05:17 |
| asac | or maybe its just that they contain a ?? and thus apport marks them as failed? | 05:18 |
| hjmf | from the coredumps almost always are bad, ether from autoretrace and from myself | 05:18 |
| hjmf | eg bug #136869 | 05:19 |
| ubotu | Bug 136869 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/136869 is private | 05:19 |
| hjmf | like that one, almost all of them. | 05:19 |
| hjmf | I cannot get a better retrace myself | 05:19 |
| hjmf | but some others (the minority) are OK, like bug #136747 | 05:21 |
| ubotu | Bug 136747 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/136747 is private | 05:21 |
| asac | hjmf: ok cool we have a fix :) | 05:29 |
| asac | for this drawing crashes | 05:30 |
| hjmf | asac: great | 05:31 |
| hjmf | it will be a patch for firefox or the fix comes from gtk2-engines package | 05:31 |
| hjmf | ? | 05:31 |
| asac | firefox | 05:39 |
| asac | please close the gtk-engine tasks ;) | 05:40 |
| asac | sorry | 05:40 |
| hjmf | asac: ok :) | 05:40 |
| hjmf | done | 05:45 |
| asac | hjmf: mozilla bug 394876 | 05:50 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 394876 in GFX: Gtk "moz_gtk_option_menu_get_metrics is incorrectly freeing border" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=394876 | 05:50 |
| asac | all drawing crashers are probably related to that | 05:50 |
| hjmf | cool I've seen your patch there, adding the upstream link to our master | 05:56 |
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| Ubulette | hi | 07:08 |
| Ubulette | what's new here ? | 07:09 |
| Ubulette | asac, mozclient ? | 07:11 |
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| gnomefreak | Ubulette: xulrunner failed to build | 07:59 |
| Ubulette | oh ? | 07:59 |
| gnomefreak | broken pipe | 07:59 |
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| gnomefreak | ill pastein error | 07:59 |
| gnomefreak | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/193566 | 08:00 |
| gnomefreak | if you need more of error please let me know | 08:00 |
| Ubulette | looks like the nsinstall issue | 08:00 |
| Ubulette | what branch did you use ? | 08:00 |
| gnomefreak | did you update nss nspr lately? | 08:01 |
| Ubulette | it's not related | 08:01 |
| Ubulette | i've patched nsinstall.c a while ago but it has been integrated upstream | 08:02 |
| gnomefreak | https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/nss/nss.ubuntu.trunk | 08:02 |
| Ubulette | so the patch is still in .trunk but no longer in .dev | 08:02 |
| gnomefreak | i was told to use trunk for gutsy and gp for feisty | 08:03 |
| Ubulette | no, that's nss. which xul ? | 08:03 |
| gnomefreak | oh give me a sec | 08:03 |
| gnomefreak | https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/xulrunner/xulrunner-1.9.ubuntu.dev | 08:04 |
| Ubulette | bingo | 08:04 |
| Ubulette | use .trunk | 08:04 |
| gnomefreak | thats the only one we have for mozilla team | 08:04 |
| Ubulette | unless you dled the proper tarball | 08:04 |
| gnomefreak | there is no other xulrunner even on your branches | 08:05 |
| Ubulette | https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/xulrunner/xulrunner-1.9.ubuntu.trunk | 08:05 |
| gnomefreak | where is this one at? | 08:05 |
| Ubulette | same place | 08:05 |
| Ubulette | https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/ | 08:05 |
| gnomefreak | hmmmm why did it list it | 08:05 |
| gnomefreak | hmmmmmm | 08:06 |
| gnomefreak | ok ill run that one | 08:06 |
| gnomefreak | ok ill let you know give me a few hours to build bins | 08:06 |
| Ubulette | sure | 08:06 |
| gnomefreak | xulrunner-1.9_1.9~a8~cvs20070829.orig.tar.gz | 08:07 |
| Ubulette | btw, i've trimmed orig.tgz for ff-trunk | 08:07 |
| gnomefreak | that is right tarball right? | 08:07 |
| Ubulette | hmm, hold on | 08:07 |
| gnomefreak | there were only 2 that was latest i saw | 08:07 |
| Ubulette | hmm strange. | 08:09 |
| gnomefreak | is that the right tarball? | 08:09 |
| Ubulette | thought is as 0824. let me check | 08:09 |
| Ubulette | was | 08:09 |
| gnomefreak | asac: can you set up the PPA feisty repo on our testing page since its pretty much done for now | 08:10 |
| gnomefreak | Ubulette: i do seee a 24 | 08:10 |
| gnomefreak | i see a 24 a 28 and that the 1.8... | 08:11 |
| gnomefreak | Ubulette: can you give me a minute im gonna restart see if it fixes this mounting file systems as external driver | 08:12 |
| gnomefreak | drive | 08:12 |
| Ubulette | mozilla bug 392722 | 08:12 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 392722 in Build Config "nsinstall chokes on double slashes in path" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392722 | 08:12 |
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| Ubulette | gnomefreak, use http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tarballs/xulrunner-1.9_1.9~a8~cvs20070829.orig.tar.gz | 08:16 |
| Ubulette | and .trunk | 08:16 |
| gnomefreak | that was the one wasnt it | 08:16 |
| Ubulette | basically, never build ppa with .deb branches | 08:16 |
| Ubulette | .dev | 08:16 |
| gnomefreak | xulrunner-1.9_1.9~a8~cvs20070829.orig.tar.gz | 08:16 |
| Ubulette | yep | 08:16 |
| gnomefreak | ok cool | 08:16 |
| gnomefreak | oh ty ill try it | 08:16 |
| gnomefreak | have to build .debs :( | 08:17 |
| gnomefreak | hjmf: congrats on membership sorry i couldnt be there | 08:18 |
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| gnomefreak | Ubulette: ty ill le tyou know what happens | 08:19 |
| Ubulette_ | k | 08:20 |
| Ubulette_ | (stupid daily disconnection) | 08:20 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yes will add the repo | 08:22 |
| gnomefreak | ty | 08:22 |
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| gnomefreak | ok its started im going back to drink lunch and laydown | 08:30 |
| hjmf | gnomefreak: thank you. I really hope you are OK :) | 08:32 |
| gnomefreak | hjmf: ill live ;) | 08:32 |
| hjmf | :) | 08:33 |
| gnomefreak | once pain goes away ill be back to as close to normal as possible | 08:33 |
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| Ubulette | asac ? | 09:33 |
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| shirish | hi all ;) | 09:44 |
| Ubulette | hi | 09:44 |
| shirish | Ubulette: got your reply, thanx :) | 09:45 |
| Ubulette | shirish, you'd really should consider lurking here, it would be easier to see your questions and answer them | 09:45 |
| shirish | Ubulette: the problem is, my comp. is shared by my mum & me, and she is the solitaire type, just plays solitaire. | 09:47 |
| shirish | hence when she is around, then pidgin is closed, also electricity is pretty much uncertain. | 09:47 |
| Ubulette | oh, ok | 09:47 |
| shirish | Ubulette: the question about pidgin was in my heart/head for quite sometime now | 09:48 |
| shirish | Ubulette: so now you know, hence if I just seem to goof of for no apparent reason or not responding, there is a big possibility that electricity might have gone off or is very low hence its gets switched off automatically. | 09:50 |
| Ubulette | i see. no problem | 09:50 |
| shirish | Ubulette: btw are you a big addons-user or like asac none at all? | 09:50 |
| Ubulette | i was with ff2 | 09:51 |
| Ubulette | ff3 is as you know poor regarding addons compat | 09:51 |
| shirish | Ubulette: did you use greasemonkey in your add-ons journey? | 09:52 |
| Ubulette | nope | 09:52 |
| Ubulette | shirish, did you try today's ff3 ? | 09:55 |
| Ubulette | i think I fixed your ca certificates issue | 09:55 |
| shirish | Ubulette: ok cool, lemme try it then & report back | 09:56 |
| shirish | Ubulette: ok its downloading 27 MiB or thereabouts (with a few dbgsym packages involved) | 10:04 |
| shirish | oh drats, there are other packages too, apart from ff3 also | 10:04 |
| Ubulette | not sure but it seems the dbgsym are broken (too small) | 10:05 |
| shirish | Ubulette: that's what I had been noticing from few days, thought I should ask you but then thought better of not to ask. | 10:06 |
| shirish | Ubulette: they're supposed to be bigger than the files aren't they? | 10:06 |
| Ubulette | for xul, yes. for the new ff3, i don't really know yet | 10:08 |
| shirish | Ubulette: ok the xulrunner -dbgsym file is 7132 bytes as opposed to the file itself which is 8151 KiloBytes which are poles apart. | 10:10 |
| Ubulette | yep | 10:11 |
| Ubulette | i'll check that another time | 10:11 |
| shirish | Ubulette: ok as far as you know that's good enough, I'm sure one of these days you'll try to see what can be done about that :) | 10:11 |
| shirish | Ubulette: as it is without a kernel or gdb or whatever is broken is not fixed. the dbgsym packages are useless, we just make sure we have them when they do get fixed. | 10:12 |
| shirish | uh oh, have to logout, pidgin-libnotify is also getting upgraded, bb in a while. | 10:14 |
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| gnomefreak | asac: seems that iceape buildd failed for lpia by looking at build logs the 99_configure and the 20_gcc g++ patches were never applied during build. here is the log http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9111562/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-lpia.iceape_1.1.4-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz i could swear i added them to branch with bzr add. i cant look into this (i will have to wait till i can think better this oxycodon is really making me weird. i | 10:17 |
| Ubulette | applying patch 99_configure to ./ ... ok. | 10:18 |
| gnomefreak | ah yes so its just the 20_bleh patch | 10:19 |
| gnomefreak | sorry over looked it | 10:19 |
| Ubulette | yep, no 20_ | 10:20 |
| gnomefreak | hmmmmmmm | 10:20 |
| gnomefreak | let me try something | 10:20 |
| gnomefreak | asac: did you pull from my personal branch or from mozillateam | 10:22 |
| gnomefreak | im pulling my branch to make sure i added it | 10:22 |
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| shirish | just for a while though ;) | 10:23 |
| Ubulette | damn, songbird build system is really ugly :( | 10:23 |
| shirish | Ubulette: damn, that was gonna be my next question :P | 10:23 |
| gnomefreak | Ubulette: in email i got notice about nss being changed from testing to current version was the version changed? | 10:24 |
| gnomefreak | nss 3.11.7-1 | 10:24 |
| Ubulette | hm, no reason that i know | 10:24 |
| Ubulette | should be 3.12.0+cvs20070903t1011+bbot-3 | 10:25 |
| shirish | Ubulette: till now, it seems good, the ca certificates issue seems to have been resolved , if you did that, then you should patch it upstream also, if that needs patching up. | 10:26 |
| Ubulette | no, upstream is fine as they bundle nss within both xul and ff | 10:27 |
| Ubulette | I think i'm gonna drop exaile for good from my bot | 10:28 |
| Ubulette | svn: Can't connect to host 'exaile.org': Connection refused | 10:28 |
| Ubulette | everyday | 10:28 |
| shirish | Ubulette: that's because they have moved everything to launchpad | 10:28 |
| Ubulette | really ? | 10:28 |
| shirish | Ubulette: yup really | 10:28 |
| Ubulette | url ? | 10:28 |
| shirish | Ubulette: I bzr up everyday | 10:28 |
| shirish | Ubulette: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~exaile-devel/exaile/main/ | 10:29 |
| asac | gnomefreak: its 20_ missing and apparently also the appropriate refresh of 99_configure | 10:29 |
| asac | so in short ... everything ;) | 10:29 |
| shirish | that's what bzr info gives me for exaile but for branch. | 10:30 |
| gnomefreak | im pulling branch to see wha tit is but i ran autoconf2.13 after adding patch | 10:30 |
| asac | shirish: i think bzr up is not the same as bzr pull | 10:30 |
| shirish | Ubulette: that's what bzr. info gives me for exaile, but for co of branch dunno about trunk though. | 10:30 |
| shirish | asac: it isn't? | 10:30 |
| asac | gnomefreak: well but you have to update the 99_configure patch after running autoconf2.13 | 10:31 |
| asac | e.g. the changes from autoconf2.13 have to be in 99_configure | 10:31 |
| asac | shirish: i don't think it is | 10:31 |
| asac | shirish: always use pull if you want to get the latest from remote repository | 10:31 |
| gnomefreak | i thought autoconf2.13 would update the patch since i was dpatched into the patch | 10:31 |
| shirish | asac: oh oh | 10:31 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ok yes then it should | 10:31 |
| asac | shirish: compare bzr help up .... bzr help pull | 10:32 |
| gnomefreak | it told me it updated it when i was done | 10:32 |
| asac | there is obviously a different | 10:32 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yes ... but if you forgot to apply 20_ ... the autoconf2.13 didn't bring anything new | 10:32 |
| asac | so your procedure to update 99_configure was right | 10:32 |
| asac | :) | 10:32 |
| asac | but you you didn't have 20_ ... applied :) | 10:32 |
| gnomefreak | its in branch | 10:32 |
| gnomefreak | on shit | 10:33 |
| asac | gnomefreak: is it in 00list as well? | 10:33 |
| gnomefreak | 20_force-no-pragma-visibility-for-gcc-4.2_4.3.dpatch | 10:33 |
| gnomefreak | ill look | 10:33 |
| shirish | asac: what does M stand for? | 10:33 |
| shirish | asac: I mean as http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36370/ | 10:33 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yes it is 20_force-no-pragma-visibility-for-gcc-4.2_4.3 | 10:34 |
| gnomefreak | everything should be fine | 10:34 |
| asac | ok | 10:34 |
| asac | then it might have been my fault | 10:34 |
| gnomefreak | asac: you grabbed from my personal branch right? | 10:34 |
| asac | shirish: that you just retried changes | 10:35 |
| gnomefreak | i never updated MT branch | 10:35 |
| asac | :) | 10:35 |
| shirish | asac: what does it mean retried changes? | 10:35 |
| asac | shirish: so before you probably didn't retrieve any updates from remote repository | 10:35 |
| asac | retrieved | 10:35 |
| asac | sorry | 10:35 |
| asac | gnomefreak: which version did i upload? | 10:36 |
| gnomefreak | 1.1.4 | 10:36 |
| asac | well ... thats clear ... i mean from which branch? | 10:37 |
| gnomefreak | 1.1.4-1ubuntu1 | 10:37 |
| gnomefreak | same version in MT branch but missing all the other changes | 10:37 |
| gnomefreak | for mt its # | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | for mt its By Alexander Sack <asac@jwsdot.com> on 2007-08-16 | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | merge from debian as of 1.1.4-1 unstable release | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | # | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | By John Vivirito <gnomefreak@ubuntu.com> on 2007-08-30 | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | * debian/changelog: Updated for iceape 1.1.4-1ubuntu2, fixed lpia | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | build for gutsy. | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | is the lates from mine | 10:38 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i think i never uploaded the gcc changes | 10:38 |
| asac | i uploaded ubunt1 | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | ah that may be why | 10:38 |
| asac | so either i forgot or you never asked me to :) | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | i just asked you to upload it sorry | 10:39 |
| asac | ok let me see | 10:39 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i guess i didn't upload though, right? | 10:39 |
| gnomefreak | hold on let me see filure date | 10:40 |
| gnomefreak | Queued: 2007-08-18 | 10:40 |
| gnomefreak | yeah you didnt upload by the looks of it | 10:40 |
| asac | 2007-08-19 | 10:40 |
| asac | yes | 10:40 |
| asac | ok | 10:40 |
| asac | pulling | 10:40 |
| === gnomefreak wonders why im still getting emails on it do they keep trying after a certain time? | ||
| asac | gnomefreak: look at bzr diff -r 87..88 | 10:42 |
| asac | in your branch | 10:42 |
| asac | its a mess | 10:42 |
| asac | there is something completely wrong with it | 10:42 |
| shirish | asac: doing it again, so each time going in the exaile directory, I should do bzr pull instead of bzr up? | 10:43 |
| asac | gnomefreak: first you added a complete +--- ubuntu-1.1.x~/configure.in~ file | 10:43 |
| asac | (HUGE) | 10:43 |
| asac | (NOT NEEDED) | 10:43 |
| gnomefreak | huh? | 10:43 |
| asac | gnomefreak: remember that you must be sure that you don't have any backup files lying around when exiting the dpatch shell | 10:44 |
| asac | otherwise those will just be added | 10:44 |
| asac | you can strip that file from the 20_... patch manually | 10:44 |
| asac | 2nd: even though 20_ does the right thing for configure.in ... 99_configure is not updated | 10:44 |
| asac | in that checkin | 10:44 |
| asac | well its updated ... but with something completely unrelated | 10:45 |
| asac | gnomefreak: my advise: remove the configure.in~ patch from the 20_... patch manually | 10:45 |
| asac | then uncommit the last to checkins | 10:45 |
| asac | last two checkins | 10:45 |
| shirish | asac: bzr doesn't seem to be consistent with bandwidth as far as checking out is concerned, anybody else noticed that? | 10:46 |
| asac | gnomefreak: then rerun autoconf2.13 update in dpatch shell | 10:46 |
| asac | done | 10:46 |
| asac | gnomefreak: verify with bzr diff debian/patches/99_* | 10:46 |
| asac | if the modification to 99_confiugre really contain what they should | 10:46 |
| gnomefreak | --- ubuntu-1.1.x~/configure.in~1969-12-31 19:00:00.000000000 -0500 | 10:46 |
| gnomefreak | +++ ubuntu-1.1.x/configure.in~ | 10:46 |
| asac | shirish: well bzr is slow over http ... thats known | 10:46 |
| gnomefreak | that part | 10:46 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yes the 10000 lines after that need to be wiped from that patch | 10:47 |
| asac | gnomefreak: dpatch is a pain ... and i agree ... and this is one of the reasons i find dpatch insane | 10:47 |
| shirish | asac: I'm sure somebody must have put up a bug about it. | 10:47 |
| asac | shirish: well its well known ... don't bother | 10:47 |
| asac | shirish: there are no comments needed for these issues ... unless you can fix it of course :) | 10:48 |
| shirish | asac: I was just going to subscribe it, not add comments to anything :P | 10:48 |
| asac | shirish: ah | 10:48 |
| gnomefreak | 1000 lines my ass its more like 7000 | 10:48 |
| Ubulette | bzr is slow for big projects too | 10:49 |
| asac | gnomefreak: read above ... i wrote 10k :) | 10:49 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 10:49 |
| asac | gnomefreak: thats just a guess from endless scrolling | 10:49 |
| asac | garbage | 10:49 |
| asac | : | 10:49 |
| asac | shirish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/ ... search for 'slow' | 10:49 |
| gnomefreak | start at diff -urNad ubuntu-1.1.x~/configure.in~ ubuntu-1.1.x/configure.in~? | 10:49 |
| asac | shirish: there should be a match :) | 10:50 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yes you don't want these files | 10:50 |
| asac | gnomefreak: just clean up the patch | 10:50 |
| asac | the only thing you want in there is just a tiny diff against configure.in | 10:50 |
| Ubulette | shirish, http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/2007-01-26/vcs-migration-headaches/ | 10:50 |
| shirish | asac: actually doing the same as we speak, we seem to have the same mind...somewhat. | 10:50 |
| asac | nothing more | 10:50 |
| gnomefreak | shit this is bad | 10:51 |
| asac | gnomefreak: its not that bad | 10:52 |
| gnomefreak | ok lets see what i can do | 10:52 |
| asac | uncommit two commits | 10:52 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i hav 3eto rebuild it | 10:52 |
| asac | gnomefreak: then clean up that patch | 10:52 |
| asac | no | 10:52 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 10:52 |
| gnomefreak | i dont have build-area | 10:52 |
| asac | the enter 99_configure patch edit shell | 10:52 |
| gnomefreak | since you said you would upload it i cleaned up | 10:52 |
| asac | gnomefreak: hmm ... you can stop the build after it unpacked | 10:52 |
| asac | then run ./debian/rules clean | 10:52 |
| asac | to be sure its clean | 10:53 |
| asac | the do what we are talking about | 10:53 |
| shirish | asac: dunno why but it seems to be too much of a pain of saying bzr pull http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~exaile-devel/exaile/main exaile rather than going to exaile sub-directory & just saying bzr up | 10:57 |
| asac | shirish: haha | 10:58 |
| asac | bzr up doesn't give you anything new | 10:58 |
| asac | so if you like to get stalled then use bzr up :) | 10:58 |
| shirish | bzr up had never failed me today, I always used bzr up for last 4-5 days & that seemed to work | 10:59 |
| shirish | asac: that should have been until today=today | 10:59 |
| shirish | bzr up had never failed me until today, I always used bzr up for last 4-5 days & that seemed to work | 11:00 |
| gnomefreak | am i going to have to rerun bzr add 20_patch? | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | after i uncommit the revision? | 11:05 |
| asac | gnomefreak: you can confirm whats going on by looking at bzr stat | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | k | 11:06 |
| asac | if its added its marked as A otherwise as unknown | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | k ill look as soon as i get a chance | 11:11 |
| asac | gnomefreak: we appear to have a auto reply guy on bug 60995 again | 11:12 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 60995 in firefox "The backspace key pages up instead of going back in history" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60995 | 11:12 |
| asac | retrieved 5 bounces in my mailbox so far | 11:12 |
| gnomefreak | i havent gotten any :) | 11:12 |
| gnomefreak | but that should go to #launchpad | 11:12 |
| gnomefreak | they disablet hat crap | 11:12 |
| asac | hmm | 11:13 |
| asac | no idea if its not in the bug then the bounces got to me privately? | 11:13 |
| asac | already deleted them | 11:13 |
| asac | if i don't get more then lets not bother | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | ii havent gotten any but i checked mail a little while ago for fisrt time since sat | 11:15 |
| shirish | Ubulette: that link of the blog you gave about mozilla cvs is really entertaining :) | 11:24 |
| Ubulette | indeed | 11:25 |
| Ubulette | i have more | 11:25 |
| shirish | please go right ahead | 11:26 |
| Ubulette | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/124 | 11:26 |
| Ubulette | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/125 | 11:26 |
| gnomefreak | oh no not more mark blogs | 11:27 |
| === shirish thinks Ubulette is also a sucker like shirish for knowing what this version control is all about :P | ||
| Ubulette | gnomefreak, don't like him ? | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | oh no its not that | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | i do like him but last blogs i read were the ones about debian annd clsasroom stuff | 11:29 |
| Ubulette | shirish, http://versioncontrolblog.com/2007/06/24/mozilla-version-control-system-shootout-redux-redux/ | 11:29 |
| shirish | lol, cooler | 11:29 |
| gnomefreak | and it caused alot of bad blogs after | 11:29 |
| Ubulette | well, i read him in rss, so i skip the comments | 11:30 |
| shirish | Ubulette: I found one of the comments quite interesting though , http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/124 in that what Thorsten Wilms says | 11:33 |
| shirish | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/124#comment-110955 | 11:33 |
| shirish | to be more exact. | 11:33 |
| Ubulette | maybe but i read about 200 rss | 11:33 |
| Ubulette | so comments... | 11:33 |
| gnomefreak | asac: how close are you to other core devels? | 11:34 |
| Ubulette | btw, rss are from blogs and blogs are all interlaced | 11:34 |
| === gnomefreak has a disterbing idea that would be cool ;) | ||
| asac | gnomefreak: what do you mean with 'close' ? | 11:34 |
| gnomefreak | to suggest something for gutsy+1 and them accutally think about it | 11:35 |
| asac | gnomefreak: well if it makes sense ... ? | 11:36 |
| gnomefreak | asac: im thinking package-a install it and when installed send a configure options and basically a hello world app that says something like hello $nick and/or good by $nick (the $nick is enttered duringg config) doesnt have to be part of main install | 11:36 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i can certainly peek at opinions if its something i support ... and if there is enough positive feedback one can make a spec out of it et al | 11:36 |
| shirish | gnomefreak: I just hope that there is more discussion on the printing side of things, even now its pretty ugly. | 11:37 |
| gnomefreak | shirish: i cant do anything for a while im really sick | 11:37 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i somehow don't understand ;) | 11:37 |
| gnomefreak | asac: but i got idea while reading bug 1 comment | 11:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 11:37 |
| asac | gnomefreak: so you want a greeter? | 11:38 |
| gnomefreak | asac: at log in pc says hello $nick and on log out it says goodby $nick | 11:38 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yeah i think it would be prretty cool | 11:38 |
| asac | does it have any use-cases except from being cool :) | 11:38 |
| gnomefreak | asac: it would help marketing i guess | 11:39 |
| Ubulette | it's already possible with gdm themese | 11:39 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i still don't seem to understand | 11:39 |
| asac | gnomefreak: where should the "hello $nick" pop-up ? | 11:39 |
| asac | when? | 11:39 |
| gnomefreak | asac: it speaks | 11:39 |
| asac | it speaks? | 11:39 |
| gnomefreak | not text | 11:39 |
| Ubulette | oh | 11:39 |
| asac | hm | 11:39 |
| Ubulette | lol | 11:39 |
| Ubulette | crazy | 11:40 |
| gnomefreak | asac: as a default voice | 11:40 |
| asac | and where do you get all the spoken names from? | 11:40 |
| gnomefreak | crazy yes but that is what you get for me on drugs | 11:40 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i think you would need to add that to rosetta ;) | 11:40 |
| asac | which would be a crazy efford ... indeed :) | 11:40 |
| gnomefreak | asac: a config box upon install of package | 11:40 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i don't know how to technically make the computer speak any possible name in a decent fashion | 11:41 |
| asac | but Ubulette should know :) | 11:41 |
| gnomefreak | biggest issue would bee pronouncing names right | 11:41 |
| asac | indeed ;) | 11:41 |
| gnomefreak | but likee i said its a crazy thought but a thought | 11:41 |
| asac | yeah | 11:42 |
| asac | you can make a web 3.0 efford out of it ... a huge community where you can find people to produce your personal greeter ;) | 11:43 |
| gnomefreak | other fix would be config alllows you to pronouce it from mic but not everone has a mic | 11:43 |
| asac | yeah | 11:44 |
| asac | actually you can already do that :) | 11:44 |
| asac | you can just set the start and logout sound to whatever thing you want | 11:44 |
| Ubulette | try festival maybe | 11:44 |
| gnomefreak | i think we have something like it now but im not sure if it uses include greeters | 11:44 |
| asac | the problem is to get the data | 11:44 |
| gnomefreak | as good point | 11:44 |
| === gnomefreak might givve that a shot but that wont happen til gutsy is stable | ||
| === asac starts to revice his scheme-fu | ||
| asac | s/revice/revive/ | 11:46 |
| asac | gnomefreak: try festival | 11:46 |
| asac | no idea how it works | 11:46 |
| asac | ;) | 11:46 |
| Ubulette | asac, tried mozclient yet ? | 11:46 |
| gnomefreak | i can look at it | 11:46 |
| gnomefreak | but thought it was good idea (while on drugs) | 11:47 |
| gnomefreak | brb pain is starting to come back | 11:47 |
| Ubulette | hmm, annoying bug in ff trunk that i can't find on bugzilla | 11:49 |
| Ubulette | some pages are partially rendered, then completely rendered below that "aborted" rendering | 11:49 |
| Ubulette | a7 is fine, trunk is not | 11:50 |
| asac | Ubulette: i am sure that it works ... i am just not yet sure how we can improve it :) | 11:51 |
| Ubulette | ? | 11:51 |
| Ubulette | it = ? | 11:51 |
| asac | not like fix it ... but like make it do more | 11:52 |
| Ubulette | ??? | 11:52 |
| asac | well as i said its not yet completely clear to me what i want ;) ... but let me try | 11:52 |
| shirish | 3:30 a.m. my side of the world hence | 11:53 |
| === shirish out | ||
| asac | maybe it helps me to understand what i want :) | 11:53 |
| asac | shirish: night | 11:53 |
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| shirish | asac: Ubulette: night guys | 11:53 |
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| Ubulette | shirish, night | 11:53 |
| Ubulette | lol | 11:53 |
| asac | Ubulette: first thing that pops into my mind is ... what is that? | 11:54 |
| asac | i mean its a standalone thing right? | 11:54 |
| Ubulette | what ? | 11:54 |
| Ubulette | what is that "it" you keep talking about ? | 11:54 |
| asac | mozclient? | 11:55 |
| Ubulette | oh | 11:55 |
| asac | i thought that this was the context :) | 11:55 |
| Ubulette | that's my branch with client.mk | 11:55 |
| asac | sorry | 11:55 |
| asac | ah now i think i know :) | 11:56 |
| Ubulette | modified to fetch nss, nspr, ff without xul | 11:56 |
| asac | so is it a demo of a patch you want to submit upstream? | 11:56 |
| asac | or is it ment for regular use? | 11:56 |
| asac | imo the patches for nss/nspr are clearly upstream patches | 11:57 |
| Ubulette | we could use that for sure but posting it, i'm not sure | 11:57 |
| asac | however xulrunner doesn't scale that well | 11:57 |
| asac | i mean it doesn't fix it for all mozilla applications, but just for browser | 11:58 |
| asac | better fix it for all and send it upstream | 11:58 |
| asac | the other aspect of that branch i see is the Makefile | 11:58 |
| asac | for Makefile i currently see the use case of patching | 11:59 |
| asac | client.mk before checkout | 11:59 |
| asac | right? | 11:59 |
| asac | and provide the checkout and orig tar up | 12:00 |
| asac | features | 12:00 |
| asac | s/xulrunner/xulbrowser/ ... sorry (10 lines above) | 12:01 |
| Ubulette | so what's your idea to make that scale ? | 12:02 |
| asac | (for the Makefile) my point is ... if there are long term use cases for this Makefile ... we certainly want a mozilla-SOMETHING.mk that we can package up and include in our rules file | 12:02 |
| asac | Ubulette: (about scale) i am not yet sure ... but certainly we don't want a new target for every application | 12:03 |
| asac | so make -f client.mk checkout MOZ_CO_PROJECT=browser MOZ_CO_EXCLUDE=xulrunner|libxul | 12:04 |
| asac | instead of MOZ_CO_PROJECT=xulbrowser | 12:04 |
| asac | or the other way around: so make -f client.mk checkout MOZ_CO_PROJECT=browser MOZ_CO_WITH=xulrunner | 12:05 |
| asac | and ... make -f client.mk checkout MOZ_CO_PROJECT=browser | 12:05 |
| gnomefreak | i will finish xulrunner and iceape i might get to trunk either tonight or tomorrow | 12:05 |
| Ubulette | asac, they will not want that as it will break all existing scripts | 12:05 |
| asac | Ubulette: you mean variant 2? or at all? | 12:06 |
| Ubulette | 2 | 12:06 |
| asac | ok | 12:06 |
| asac | yes ... thats right | 12:06 |
| asac | maybe for mozilla 2 :) ... if the default is the other way around | 12:06 |
| Ubulette | problem of the 1st one is that it's not that easy. | 12:06 |
| asac | i never said its easy ;) ... but its definitly worth the efford (if reasonably possible at all) | 12:07 |
| asac | and it shouldn't be that hard either | 12:07 |
| Ubulette | they said they'll move to hg for the next release | 12:07 |
| asac | ok | 12:07 |
| asac | Ubulette: why does xulbrowser need necko? | 12:08 |
| asac | toolkit? | 12:08 |
| Ubulette | makefile mess scanning dirs for nothing | 12:09 |
| Ubulette | but it's cryptic | 12:09 |
| asac | huh? | 12:09 |
| asac | you probably have to provide an equivalent patch for Makefile.in ? | 12:09 |
| Ubulette | well, i started with a minimal list of modules, and added the ones missing to make the current build system happy | 12:10 |
| Ubulette | but for 2 cases, i thing the build system is at fault | 12:10 |
| Ubulette | yet patching that was not trivial, and probably intrusive for win32 or mac | 12:11 |
| asac | tier_50_dirs += toolkit/components/gnome | 12:11 |
| hjmf | night all | 12:12 |
| Ubulette | anyway, I'll keep my branch and add some targets to build our tarballs | 12:12 |
| asac | sure its certainly good to have | 12:12 |
| Ubulette | and maybe improve the build system a bit | 12:13 |
| asac | yes | 12:13 |
| gnomefreak | xulrunner better prove to work better than without it | 12:14 |
| gnomefreak | its already pissing me off | 12:14 |
| Ubulette | lol | 12:15 |
| Ubulette | gnomefreak, with it, the .dev branch of ff is much smaller | 12:15 |
| Ubulette | less sources, less patches, and it (ff) compiles in 1 minute | 12:16 |
| Ubulette | instead of 1 hour | 12:16 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 12:16 |
| Ubulette | but now it means maintaining xul | 12:16 |
| gnomefreak | that doesnt help with anything else other than building? | 12:17 |
| Ubulette | xul could be shared | 12:17 |
| gnomefreak | i was hoping for rendering but if its just source size it makes no sense its just another package to maintain | 12:18 |
| Ubulette | i'm trying to package songbird with our new xul but even without it, it doesn't build :P | 12:18 |
| gnomefreak | Ubulette: that could be a reason i havent tried it | 12:19 |
| gnomefreak | lol | 12:19 |
| gnomefreak | i have some moron cant find update-manager nad whats to upgrade to gutsy | 12:19 |
| Ubulette | gnomefreak, i hope it will be used by epiphany, totem, kazehakase, liferea | 12:19 |
| Ubulette | and more | 12:19 |
| Ubulette | (xul) | 12:19 |
| gnomefreak | we need to get ff off the depends list for alot of packages and use xul | 12:20 |
| Ubulette | yep, that's the idea | 12:20 |
| asac | memory footprint should be smaller ... if you run mutliple apps at once | 12:20 |
| gnomefreak | btw who wants to upgrae kazehakase to lates version for gutsy? | 12:20 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ping the guy who uploaded last version | 12:21 |
| asac | actually ... its one of the libxul rdepends right | 12:21 |
| asac | ? | 12:21 |
| asac | we should see if it can run against xulrunner 1.9 | 12:22 |
| asac | because otherwise it blocks the way into gutsy for that | 12:22 |
| Ubulette | why ? | 12:22 |
| Ubulette | the new xul could live with the old one | 12:23 |
| asac | could != should | 12:23 |
| asac | ;) | 12:23 |
| Ubulette | maybe we should to xul-1.8 then | 12:23 |
| Ubulette | do | 12:23 |
| Ubulette | or 1.8.1 | 12:23 |
| asac | maybe ... does it work? | 12:23 |
| Ubulette | it should | 12:24 |
| asac | point is ... how will people update xulrunner? | 12:24 |
| Ubulette | make install just does that | 12:24 |
| asac | never, but just through depends? | 12:24 |
| Ubulette | without the debian patches | 12:24 |
| asac | ok | 12:24 |
| asac | i think there will be more issues ;) | 12:24 |
| asac | but in general i agree | 12:24 |
| Ubulette | just a provide/replace should do | 12:24 |
| Ubulette | for 1.8 only, not 1.9 | 12:25 |
| asac | hmm ... what behaviour would we achieve by that? | 12:25 |
| asac | or do you mean we want that when we abandon 1.8 ? | 12:25 |
| Ubulette | we could using 1.8 for ff2 (maybe) | 12:26 |
| asac | i think that won't work ... and definitly not for gutsy | 12:26 |
| Ubulette | of just provide 1.8 for users that depends on stable xul | 12:26 |
| asac | we cannot introduce such a huge change at this time of the release | 12:26 |
| asac | for such an important package | 12:26 |
| Ubulette | maybe not | 12:27 |
| asac | Ubulette: why do we want to provide an xulrunner-self-maintained-upgrade path at all? | 12:27 |
| asac | i mean its just enough if the rdepends upgrade there dependencies | 12:27 |
| asac | once we don't support 1.8 anymore there shouldn't be any depends anymore and thus removing the package from the archive will remove it from peoples disks on dist-upgrade | 12:27 |
| Ubulette | you sure ? | 12:28 |
| asac | sure about what? | 12:28 |
| Ubulette | dist upgrade will wipe that ? | 12:28 |
| Ubulette | I'm not | 12:28 |
| asac | hmmm ... not sure :) autoremove will | 12:28 |
| asac | if they never explicitly installed it | 12:28 |
| asac | Ubulette: but think i know that it does | 12:29 |
| Ubulette | autoremove is sometimes crazy, like when it wants to remove the kernel or libc | 12:29 |
| asac | in debian packages get removed from your disc when they are removed from the archive | 12:29 |
| asac | otherwise you couldn't remove packages | 12:29 |
| Ubulette | they are just marked as not installed, that's it | 12:30 |
| asac | but ... i am not really sure ... its just that i always that that's the case ... might be based on a quick read or something | 12:30 |
| Ubulette | they are just marked as not installable, that's it | 12:30 |
| asac | ok | 12:31 |
| asac | anyway ... i don't think its a problem | 12:31 |
| asac | if they never explicitly installed it ... it will be marked for autoremove | 12:32 |
| asac | if they installed it explicitly then let them keep it (on their own risk) until a depends becomes incompatible ;) | 12:32 |
| asac | anyway ... i am sure there are more than one exit-strategies ... which we can decide when we need to exit :) | 12:33 |
| gnomefreak | why the fuck isnt it saving my changes | 12:34 |
| gnomefreak | bzr merge: fix conflicts : bzr resolve : bzr push | 12:35 |
| gnomefreak | and i still get diverged | 12:35 |
| asac | gnomefreak: bzr commit | 12:35 |
| asac | not push | 12:36 |
| asac | push only after commit | 12:36 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 12:36 |
| gnomefreak | uploading xulrunner atm | 12:42 |
| gnomefreak | and pushing iceape | 12:42 |
| gnomefreak | asac: take iceape its al yours | 12:43 |
| asac | ok thanks | 12:44 |
| gnomefreak | anytime atleast should be there | 12:44 |
| asac | so you didn't uncommit? | 12:45 |
| gnomefreak | may look same but its not i got tired of thinking too hard | 12:45 |
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| asac | what did you merge at the end? | 12:45 |
| asac | gnomefreak: you should have overwritten the branch | 12:46 |
| asac | because you uncommitted | 12:46 |
| asac | not merge | 12:46 |
| asac | you need to uncommit that merge | 12:46 |
| asac | and push again without it | 12:46 |
| asac | gnomefreak: it contains zero changes anyway :) | 12:46 |
| gnomefreak | no it doesnt | 12:47 |
| cwong1 | asac: ping | 12:47 |
| gnomefreak | it better now | 12:47 |
| gnomefreak | not | 12:47 |
| asac | --overwrite is bad ... but for the sake to not have something that cluttered its ok to do that on your provide branches | 12:47 |
| gnomefreak | i uncommited and fixed everything | 12:47 |
| asac | gnomefreak: the last checkin has zero changes | 12:47 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yes the last checkin (the merge) was superfluous | 12:47 |
| asac | cwong1: whats up (i am on my way away) :) | 12:48 |
| cwong1 | asac: Have you upload the latest browser to the gusty repo.? | 12:48 |
| gnomefreak | i didnt --overwrite | 12:48 |
| asac | yes | 12:48 |
| gnomefreak | last checking was changelog | 12:48 |
| gnomefreak | i didnt change the changelog as it wasnt needed | 12:48 |
| asac | cwong1: yes | 12:48 |
| asac | its build and all ... upgrade should bring it to you | 12:48 |
| asac | for me image creator created bogus things today ... all crashing | 12:49 |
| cwong1 | asac: I did an upgrade and it didn't? | 12:49 |
| asac | so i couldn't verify how well it works | 12:49 |
| cwong1 | s/?/ | 12:49 |
| gnomefreak | changelog == no need for anyone to know i had to go back and fix it and i wasnt gonna bump version for this | 12:49 |
| cwong1 | image-creator is messed up now | 12:49 |
| asac | yes | 12:49 |
| cwong1 | asac: I will check later. | 12:49 |
| asac | but dist-upgrade messed up my image creator chroot as well | 12:49 |
| asac | (before i restarted with image-creator from scratch) | 12:50 |
| asac | so i think its a broken package | 12:50 |
| asac | cwong1: if you get it going let me know how well midbrowser works | 12:50 |
| cwong1 | asac: ok I will. But u are saying that if I do an upgrade I should get the new one, right? | 12:50 |
| asac | cwong1: what package version do you have? | 12:51 |
| cwong1 | asac: 1 sec | 12:51 |
| asac | cwong1: don't use any internal mirrors if you want the latest :) | 12:51 |
| asac | cwong1: it should be on all primary mirrors already | 12:51 |
| petal | hi! I just wanted to upgrade from thunderbird 1.5 to 2.0 and it has to remove the 1.5 install. I have several inboxes active, a full calendar by use of the Lightning-extension etc. and I'm afraid of losing all of that... Is there a way to re-import or something? Thanks! | 12:51 |
| asac | just in case you didn't get that upgrade | 12:51 |
| asac | :) | 12:51 |
| cwong1 | asac: I don't trust my internal mirror | 12:51 |
| asac | yeah | 12:51 |
| asac | ;) | 12:51 |
| asac | good attitude | 12:51 |
| gnomefreak | mon^arh should be joinign here to ask in ff is still broekn | 12:51 |
| asac | gnomefreak: why? | 12:52 |
| gnomefreak | because the comment is ff still broken none can help him with so maybe he can give you better insite | 12:52 |
| asac | petal: backup your .mozilla-thunderbird directory (to be safe) ... but in general package upgrades should not remove your data | 12:52 |
| asac | (if you use thunderbird binaries directly downloaded from mozilla.org its no .mozilla-thunderbird but just .thunderbird | 12:53 |
| asac | petal: both directories are in your $HOME directory | 12:53 |
| petal | asac: Thank you! Will Thunderbird use .mozilla-thunderbird if I upgrade via Synaptic and automatically recognize the already present data? | 12:54 |
| asac | the idea is that it should .. but keeping backups is good ... just in case | 12:54 |
| gnomefreak | asac: mon^rch > i could not get the preferences dialog to open to | 12:54 |
| gnomefreak | change settings and the delicious extension wasnt | 12:54 |
| gnomefreak | working | 12:54 |
| asac | he should run in -safe-mode | 12:55 |
| gnomefreak | me thinks its the extension | 12:55 |
| asac | if it fixes it ... then remove delicious extension | 12:55 |
| gnomefreak | thats what i just told him to do | 12:55 |
| asac | so is delicious extension completely broken? | 12:56 |
| cwong1 | asac: what version number should I see? | 12:56 |
| asac | if you can verify it ... we should add it to our future extension blacklist | 12:56 |
| asac | cwong1: latest | 12:56 |
| gnomefreak | i dont know hes not answering me | 12:56 |
| cwong1 | asac: the actual version number is? | 12:56 |
| asac | cwong1: if you tell me what oyu ahve i can say yes or now | 12:57 |
| asac | no. | 12:57 |
| asac | :) | 12:57 |
| cwong1 | :) | 12:57 |
| asac | the package is 0.1.6b-0ubuntu1 | 12:57 |
| asac | cwong1: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/midbrowser | 12:57 |
| asac | there you can always track the packages ... where they are build ... where they failed et al | 12:57 |
| cwong1 | k | 12:58 |
| gnomefreak | mon^rch > gnomefreak: it works without the extension, but I cannot open the preferences dialog still and hey... I wanna use that extension! | 12:58 |
| gnomefreak | think it has some laying around shit | 12:59 |
| asac | no idea | 12:59 |
| gnomefreak | i told him to remove it not run safemode :( | 12:59 |
| asac | are preferences broken in -safe-mode? | 12:59 |
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| gnomefreak | mon^rch: can you run ff is safemode | 01:01 |
| gnomefreak | -safe-mode even | 01:01 |
| mon^rch | yes | 01:01 |
| mon^rch | but I want to use my delicious bookmarks ... i'm sorry but its indispenseable | 01:02 |
| gnomefreak | asac: you got this i need to go laydown pain is back at full force | 01:02 |
| gnomefreak | mon^rch: its also not ubuntu extension | 01:03 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yes lay down | 01:04 |
| asac | gnomefreak: now he is gone | 01:04 |
| Ubulette | lol | 01:04 |
| gnomefreak | im gone | 01:04 |
| asac | probably troll'ish | 01:04 |
| asac | gnomefreak: if you have time ... maybe you can test how bad that extension is | 01:04 |
| asac | not today | 01:05 |
| asac | at some point | 01:05 |
| asac | :) | 01:05 |
| asac | or remind me to test it | 01:05 |
| Ubulette | you should have a todo list on the m-t wiki | 01:06 |
| petal | asac: Ok, I upgraded and everything went smoothly! Thanks so much for your help! Good to be on TB2! ;) | 01:06 |
| asac | Ubulette: yeah thats a fantastic idea | 01:06 |
| asac | Ubulette: i even think there is such a page | 01:06 |
| asac | petal: yeah | 01:06 |
| asac | petal: have fun | 01:06 |
| Ubulette | asac, btw, can i edit the wiki too ? | 01:07 |
| asac | Ubulette: why not? | 01:07 |
| petal | asac: thanks! | 01:07 |
| asac | Ubulette: go ahead | 01:07 |
| Ubulette | donno, never tried | 01:07 |
| asac | Ubulette: if you want to do some radical changes just give me a short prenotice ;) | 01:07 |
| Ubulette | nothing of that sort | 01:07 |
| asac | Ubulette: you need an account on wiki.ubuntu.com | 01:07 |
| asac | but its just a sign up button | 01:07 |
| asac | nothing more | 01:07 |
| asac | and it will remember your cookie forever (well at least for a very long time) | 01:08 |
| asac | like launchpad | 01:08 |
| Ubulette | ok, i'll have a look | 01:08 |
| Ubulette | btw2, how can i have an irc cloak here ? | 01:08 |
| asac | Ubulette: i think dfarning started such a todo ... or work list | 01:08 |
| asac | Ubulette: welll ... ubuntu members can get one for free | 01:09 |
| asac | so you would need to become an ubuntu member first | 01:09 |
| asac | otherwise you need to sponsor freenode some monetary money ... that would be unaffeliated cloak | 01:09 |
| Ubulette | hmm, freenode is not free | 01:10 |
| asac | the cloaks are not | 01:10 |
| asac | they are for contributors of freesoftware projects though | 01:10 |
| asac | e.g. like debian/developer, mozilla/developer, ubuntu/member ... whatever | 01:10 |
| asac | i think come companies have cloaks as well ... but they probably donated a bunch to get a card blanche | 01:11 |
| asac | s/come/some/ | 01:11 |
| asac | Ubulette: no idea if i support that approach | 01:11 |
| Ubulette | all that seems not worth the effort | 01:11 |
| asac | well its not ment as an incintive :) | 01:12 |
| asac | to get involved in open-source projects | 01:12 |
| Ubulette | i don't believe in that kind of practice | 01:12 |
| asac | what kind? | 01:13 |
| Ubulette | money for a line of conf | 01:13 |
| cwong1 | asac: apt-get upgrade did pull down the latest but it failed to start. I am looking into it now. :( | 01:13 |
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