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Ling-Linghi there12:05
soundrayballew: first, do a 'cat /tmp/gedit.$USER.* >$HOME/gedit-rescue' to save any autosave data that gedit may have created12:06
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ColroMasterShrek: Same thing with a brand new profile :/12:06
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Weng_LapCommand to see human-readable memory and CPU loads?12:06
dxdtHey everyone12:06
dxdtWeng_Lap: top or free -h12:06
erUSULneopsyche: this is the log of your current session using "nv" as driver12:06
neopsycheoh12:06
Weng_Lapthanks12:06
MasterShrekhrmm12:06
neopsychesorry12:06
MasterShrekColro, 64 bit?12:06
neopsycheerUSUL: check old log12:07
dxdtWeng_Lap: sorry, free -m  not h12:07
Ashfire908is the time ping produces round-trip?12:07
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ColroMasterShrek: no12:07
David-AWeng_Lap: "top", "free" or add cpu-graph applet in the panel.12:07
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neopsycheerUSUL: http://pastebin.com/d2d3c15e212:07
FlannelAshfire908: yes.  That's the only reliable way to measure it12:07
schwarzekrauseHello, all12:07
Weng_LapYep. As expected. I need more RAM.12:07
neopsycheerUSUL: old log12:08
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schwarzekrauseCan anyone help me with my audiocard ALC268 on a laptop?12:08
ballewsoundray: i had looked at the tmp files - the tmp file exists, but it has a size of 0...12:08
MasterShrekColro, it took me 20 seconds, but im on livecd right now12:08
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MasterShrekare you on livecd and just dont know it? =P12:08
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ballewsoundray: i had been working on the doc for several hours... it's hard to believe the tmp file could be 012:08
soundrayAshfire908: yes (source: man ping)12:08
Ling-Lingif i try to open gedit over treminal i get "cannot open display:" , whats wrong? sry, im new on ubuntu...12:09
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Ashfire908soundray, flannel already answered my question12:09
Ling-Lingfor example: gedit --new-document linuxdat.txt12:09
dxdtLing-Ling: over ssh forwarding?  You probably forgot the ssh -X flag when you did it?12:09
MasterShrekLing-Ling, are you a different user in the terminal than what you are logged into X as?12:09
ColroMasterShrek: I booted into windows and it was 3.2 seconds using the same exact firefox profile -- I really feel like something is cutting down my performance quit a bit in Ubuntu, but I don't have a clue what it is. I do have an ATI card, but I've got the restricted driver enabled.12:09
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erUSULneopsyche: in the logs i can not see the information i'm looking for...12:09
Ling-Lingyes, over a ssh12:09
neopsycheerUSUL: hmm12:09
geirhaLing-Ling: ssh -X username@host12:10
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Ling-Lingim already loged in...12:10
soundrayAshfire908: just pointing out that you could have used man12:10
greyfrogheya all, anyone know a way to mv a directory when it gives the error "Device or Resource busy"?  The directory is empty ...12:10
geirhaLing-Ling: then X apps should work12:10
erUSULneopsyche: lets try removing the two packages and installing them again12:10
neopsycheerUSUL: perhaps if i uninstall the old driver .. instlall the new driver ... config xorg.conf to have nvidia instead of nv with new driver installed then reboot.. what you think?>12:10
Ling-Lingwhat is this x for?12:10
Ashfire908soundray, i wasn't sure if it would be in there, some man files are very short/vague12:10
neopsychex?12:10
geirhaLing-Ling: X forwarding, you need to either specify -X to ssh, or configure it in ssh_config12:11
erUSULneopsyche: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-1.0.963112:11
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Ling-Lingk, thanx12:11
Scuniziis there a way to print out to a file a list of all the programs that are listed in the menu?12:11
soundrayAshfire908: so you thought you'd ask first, then look at docs. Ts12:11
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crispy-afkIve got a problem with sound in ubuntu, any help? Look at my thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3532797#post353279712:11
erUSULneopsyche: then do 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new' and try again the nvidia driver12:11
Ashfire908soundray, like ipmasq's man on the rules. doesn't explain the values used in the files12:11
neopsycheerUSUL: it says: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-1.0.963112:11
jiamScunizi: ls -la | lpr printername12:11
neopsycheerUSUL: oops12:11
inc595anyone use looking glass on ubuntu?12:11
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Scunizijiam  thanks12:12
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neopsycheerUSUL: it says>.. E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it12:12
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byteate1hi al12:12
byteate1all12:12
jiamScunizi: oops remove the printername..12:12
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IndyGunFreak!hi12:12
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!12:12
tussey~ntfs12:12
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tussey!ntfs12:12
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:12
neopsycheerUSUL: oh.. probably synaptic12:13
erUSULneopsyche: are you running synaptic or other package manager?12:13
soundrayballew: still looking for info to rescue your file, don't give up yet12:13
tusseyuh oh ubuntu.com internal server error12:13
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Scunizijiam  i did and also substituted lpr with >.. I wanted it in a file.. however, what I ended up creating is a menu editor.. i think.12:13
Ling-Lingso, host is entered in the list of knows hosts, but already: cannot open display12:13
greyfroganyone know a way to mv or rm an empty directory when it gives the error "Device or Resource busy"?12:13
neopsycheerUSUL: ok i closed synaptic12:13
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neopsycheerUSUL: it worked12:13
tussey!ntfs-3g12:13
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions12:13
neopsycheerUSUL: it now wants to install something as well12:13
geirhaLing-Ling: what does "echo $DISPLAY" say?12:13
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ballewsoundray: THANK YOU. i can't give up... been working on it for 4 hours!!!  let me give more bg.. i'm using gutsy beta. i can "lose" any window by sending it to the next workspace but they all still show up in the ps list.12:14
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Ling-LingDisplay: undefined variable12:14
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soundrayballew: so when you switch to the next workspace, is it empty?12:14
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ballewyes.12:15
Scunizijiam  actually I created a blank text file..:(12:15
byteate1wats the best windows emulator besides wine???12:15
geirhaLing-Ling: then X forwarding is not enabled, you passed -X to ssh?12:15
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Ling-Lingi think so12:15
jiamScunizi: ls -la > filename12:15
kurisutofuaaHow's the release candidate looking everyone?12:15
greyfrogwine is not a windows emulator12:15
pulseezarhow can i find out how much space is left on my disks?12:15
MasterShrekkurisutofuaa, ive heard its good12:15
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byteate1wats the best windows emulator besides wine???12:15
yrlnrypulseezar: "df"12:15
ballewsoundray: i have 2 workspaces enabled, and anything i send right disappears.12:15
greyfrogtry looking at qemu12:15
IndyGunFreakpulseezar: df12:15
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Dumptruckhow do I run a shell script?12:15
larson9999kurisutofuaa, seems to be a few hw things that don't work too good.12:15
Cyynichey all, i just upgraded to the Gutsy RC from as a fresh install (kept my /home) and i've noticed that my Gnome menus are really slow. anyone know what's going on?12:15
pulseezardf?12:15
geirhaLing-Ling: the -X should be before the host12:15
Ling-Lingthere was the question to enter the host into known host list und i had to log in again...12:15
yrlnryDumptruck: "sh scriptname"12:16
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greyfrogbyteate1, wine is not a windows emulator... try looking at qemu12:16
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yrlnryDumptruck: Or you set the execute permission on it, and then run it just by typing its name.12:16
byteate1kk12:16
allorderbyteate1: cedega12:16
Ling-Lingno x before host...12:16
byteate1what???12:16
larson9999Cyynic, do you use the small 'main' menu?12:16
tusseyhmm well I followed all the steps in the howto and still can't Write to my NTFS12:16
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byteate1i need to run cs3 on ubuntu12:16
tusseyany ideas?12:16
Vendeta6Can someone help me with a boot problem of a install ubuntu server12:16
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greyfrogbyteate1, try cedega12:16
Dr_willisbyteate1,  wine or cedega should be able to do that.12:16
byteate1kk12:16
greyfrogbyteate1, its subscription based12:16
byteate1i hate wine12:17
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Ling-Lingsry,im very unknows about ubuntu...12:17
erUSUL!anyone | Vendeta612:17
ubotuVendeta6: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:17
scottDkoDerI would like to play mp3's while playing enemy territory, but if I use for instance xmms et will fail to load the audio device even though the graphics work fine.  Any suggestions?12:17
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Cyyniclarson9999: which menu are you talking about?12:17
Dr_willisbyteate1,  just give up on games then.12:17
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Cpudan80Ok - I've got a minor problem12:17
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neopsycheerUSUL: what does it want to install?12:17
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kitche!aoss | scottDkoDer12:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aoss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:17
larson9999Cyynic, the gnome menu it calls 'Main Menu'. not the default one.12:17
soundrayballew: you know the window list applet in the bottom panel...12:17
MasterShrek!info aoss12:17
ubotuPackage aoss does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:17
kitchescottDkoDer: look up running et using aoss12:17
erUSULneopsyche: accept the propossed packages12:17
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MasterShrekhuh12:17
neopsycheerUSUL: oh i see .. its asking me if i wish to uninstall12:17
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Cpudan80My keyboard has a volume up/down key12:18
ballew_soundray: I got it!12:18
scottDkoDerkitche: Alright, thx12:18
Ling-Lingok: ssh -x user@anubis.informatik.uni-halle.de , right? user have to be my username...12:18
neopsycheerUSUL: ok .. it purged12:18
Vendeta6in just installed a ubuntu server to my old compaq and when i boot it just goes starting and the goes black and restarts the system please help12:18
xnitexbullox12:18
soundrayballew: if you right-click the handle on the left, you can set its...12:18
neopsycheerUSUL: now we need to install something?12:18
Scunizijiam  actually that listed the files I have.. I'm wanting to create a list of what's off the "application menu12:18
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soundrayballew_: solved it?12:18
geirhaLing-Ling: capital X -X not -x12:18
Cpudan80The keys work fine, but it increase/decreases volume to the wrong channel12:18
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ballew_soundray: it's a bug with the workspaces.. not sure what it is, but i'll at least document it for launchpad12:18
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Ling-Linglets try12:18
Cpudan80Like it lowers the left speaker instead of both of them12:18
Cyyniclarson9999: i'm not sure, where would i check? (very new to gnome here, i've been running kde for the last few months)12:18
MasterShrekVendeta6, how far does it boot?12:18
soundrayballew_: how did you rescue it?12:18
eaglejazzjust wondering trying to read keygen....do i use ssh-keygen?12:18
coastGNULoging, Wo wird festgelegt ob in logfiles am Anfang die zeit in unixsekunden oder im human readable format angegeben wird?12:18
MasterShrekCyynic, you shoulda stuck with kde :)12:18
erUSULneopsyche: when you finish purging the packages install 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new' and try again the nvidia driver12:19
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soundraycoastGNU: ask in #ubuntu-de please12:19
Seveas!de | coastGNU12:19
ubotucoastGNU: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:19
Vendeta6MasterShrek goes right to starting up... ands stops12:19
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Cyynicmastershrek: never know unless you try, and i've been wanting to fiddle with compiz, which never worked right for me under kde :)12:19
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coastGNUSeveas: ARRG, just noticed that I'm not on ubuntu-de... shame on me12:19
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MasterShrekVendeta6, thats not really helping me, does your bootloader come up, does it say anything about the kernel?12:19
larson9999Cyynic, i'm using the one that when you click on add to panel, shows as Main Menu.12:19
soundrayballew_: hello?12:19
ballew_soundray: when i used ctrl+alt left and right, i went to a blank workspace, but when i clicked on the workspace icon in the lower right it came up, but without a toolbar .. i had to alt-f2 to get this window open.12:19
Ling-Lingcannot open display...12:20
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neopsycheerUSUL: i can use synaptic for that right12:20
neopsyche?12:20
yrlnryx12:20
ballew_soundray: sorry.. trying to figure out how to explain it!12:20
erUSULneopsyche: yes12:20
Ling-Linggedit --new-document linuxdat.txt , is this right?12:20
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soundrayballew_: I see12:20
Vendeta6MasterShrek yes grub comes up and then i choose to boot into ubuntu server and it says starting up and then restarts the computor12:20
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coastGNUloging, where is set that log file entries will start with a timestamp in Unixtime or in human readable time format?12:20
ColroDoes anyone have any suggestions for a decent ATI driver that works with a 9600? The one installed by the restricted manager is kind of weak and I know there's some other ones out there that people have tried.12:20
geirhaLing-Ling: echo $DISPLAY still doesn't give any output?12:20
neopsycheerUSUL: says downloading 1of112:20
yrlnryI want to remove files from my USB thumbdrive.  The unlink fails with error "Read-only filesystem."  But the output of "mount" indicates that the FS was mounted with option "rw", so what's going on?12:21
ballew_soundray: clicking the icon took me to everything i had clicked "move to workspace on right"; alt-tab clicking took me to a different workspace.12:21
neopsycheerUSUL: whats glx-dev?12:21
MasterShrekVendeta6, have you tried booting recovery mode?12:21
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Ling-Linganswer: $Display12:21
erUSULneopsyche: dunno12:21
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Cyyniclarson9999: i've never changed that option, but i see which you are talking about. should i choose it or no?12:21
soundrayballew_: I was going to suggest you make the gedit window visible in the window list. Then you could have pulled it back to the original workspace with a right-click on the window-list tab.12:21
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Ling-Lingthis should be right12:21
eaglejazzreading a keygen -> do i use ssh-keygen?12:21
Vendeta6MasterShrek yes i have the same problem ocures i tried reinstalling and it still does it12:21
neopsycheerUSUL: says nvidia-glx-new-dev12:21
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ballew_soundray: thanks for your help. i'll try to document it now.12:21
geirhaLing-Ling: DISPLAY with all capital letters. Linux (and thus ubuntu) is mostly case sensitive12:21
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Ling-Lingi got: $DISPLAY12:22
MasterShrekVendeta6, i would suggest then using something else for your server, slackware is pretty good nowadays12:22
MasterShreksince they finally moved to a 2.6 kernel default lol12:22
Hacim07is there an option in fspot to have the images named after the date?12:22
Cyyniclarson9999: the delay happens with every drop down menu, in every program, including gnome12:22
erUSULneopsyche: who/what says that12:22
Vendeta6MasterShrek could u link me im rather noobish to this im just trying to set somthing up for are house to store pictures12:22
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coastGNUSeveas: BTW, hi Dennis12:23
diploVendeta6 : I'd say that could also be framebuffer issue, does it load the kernel image part on the screen and then restart ?12:23
reconSound plays when I launch "play" from the command line, but not if I use totem or firefox. Is there any way to diagnose this?12:23
larson9999Cyynic, well it's takes a LONG time the first time you open it upon bootup.  so maybe not.  but it's smaller than the default in real estate.  you can try it and see if you like it.12:23
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geirhaLing-Ling: that's very weird12:23
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neopsycheerUSUL: oh it was just a listing in synaptic .. exactly the same for the glx drivers except the text 'dev' is added to the name of each.. it is a seperate listing from what i clicked on.12:23
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neopsycheerUSUL: was just wondering what that was12:24
Vendeta6diplo it goes to the grub os chooser and then goes to the text of starting up and then goes black and restarts system12:24
diployeah i had that12:24
tdswill my gutsy beta be auto updated when 7.10 is out?12:24
diploSure it was to do with the framebuffer12:24
Pricey!final | tds12:24
ubotutds: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.12:24
diploTrying to remember what i did to get round it12:24
MasterShrekVendeta6, yea it could be framebuffer i suppose, try hitting the letter 'e' on the line in grub, and 'e' again on the kernel line and remove the word splash from the end of that line12:24
Priceytds, #ubuntu+1 for any further questions/discussion12:25
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Cyyniclarson9999: ok, maybe i'll try it, though i doubt this machine lacks the system resources... it seemed to be fine when i first installed it, then after a reboot it has decided that every click in the menu bar should be followed by a 1+ second pause...12:25
tdsubotu, thanks, you da man!12:25
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Vendeta6MasterShrek i will do that right now and keep u pposted12:25
Dumptruckhow do I run a makefile?12:25
Ling-Lingwhat i want to do: create a txt document on this server...12:25
larson9999Cyynic, oh, i don't have that issue.12:25
erUSULneopsyche: if you are not a DEVeloper you do not have to care about those packages12:25
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Cyyniclarson9999: yeah, neither does anyone in the forums it seems :)12:25
neopsycheerUSUL: lol thought so :-) ;-)12:26
geirhaLing-Ling: well, you could try to use nano instead of gedit12:26
Dumptruckin other words I have dowloaded an app - extracted -12:26
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Dumptruckthen what is the next step12:26
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larson9999Cyynic, but the other main menu really has issues.12:26
Dumptrucksomething to do with the make file no?12:26
MasterShrekDumptruck, type make12:26
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Cyyniclarson9999: so i should stick with the default huh?12:27
Dumptruckuff - that easy12:27
Dumptrucksorry I am a retard12:27
larson9999Cyynic, probably12:27
MasterShrekderr =P12:27
Dumptruckthanks so much for your help12:27
Vendeta6MasterShrek how do i save it not to keep puting in the splash12:27
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W8TAH|laptophi folks -- whats the name for the ubuntu eye candy channel12:27
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kitche!effects | W8TAH|laptop12:27
ubotuW8TAH|laptop: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects12:27
Scunizi#ubuntu-effects W8TAH|laptop12:27
W8TAH|laptopthanks12:27
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MasterShrekVendeta6, you will have to edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst and scroll to the bottom, and remove it from the kernel line(s)12:27
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keir_Hello, since upgrading to Gutsy my wireless (RT61) connection has become very unreliable, what should I do about this?12:28
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MasterShrekkeir_, do you know what kernel module it is using?12:28
IndyGunFreak!gutsy12:28
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information12:28
nathexHey, i'm trying to run "winecfg", and when I select the audio tab, it freezes. I've looked it up and found a few tips such as makeing the .kde folder with "socket-$HOSTNAME", and renaming a file in the wine directory, and I still have it freeze. Are there any other workarounds?12:28
Pricey!gutsy | keir_12:28
ubotukeir_: please see above12:28
Cyyniclarson9999: thanks anyway, i think i'm going to go trash my gnome prefs and restart x, see what happens12:28
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Vendeta6MasterShrek i click e on the kernel line and delete splash and click enter then b and it does the same thing12:28
MasterShrekkeir_, theres rt61 and rt61pci and ive heard of issues between the two12:28
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lee98632eh my cut and paste is not fergetting12:29
MasterShrekVendeta6, before you hit b, does the word splash come back?12:29
Ling-Ling_sry, mu ubuntu crashed ;)12:29
keir_ill talk in #ubuntu+112:29
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ScuniziW8TAH|laptop, nice blog.. .. over.. beep12:29
Vendeta6MasterShrek if i click enter then click esc to go bac to os picker and hit e and check it it is there12:29
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DARKGuyhey people, is it possible to have multiple GDM sessions, and different gnome-session configurations on each one? for example my gnome is configured for eyecandy with compiz and all, but what if I want to make a different session on the same user but with a more lightweight configuration (using gnome too) without compiz and different wallpaper/settings? is it possible? and if so, how?12:30
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MasterShrekVendeta6, dont hit esc, i think u have to hit enter when u are done editing it12:30
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Ling-Ling_it works ;)12:31
Ling-Ling_dont know why...12:31
Vendeta6MasterShrek i hit enter once i deleted the splash and then go back to os picker and hit e and e again on the kernal to see if it stayed changed12:31
nathexThere's no-one who knows a work around?12:32
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Dr_willisVendeta6,  edits to the grub menu items from the 'e' thing are not permenant.12:32
MasterShrekVendeta6, dont go all the way back to the first menu, right after u hit enter after u edit the line, hit 'b'12:32
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W8TAH|laptopScunizi: umm thanks12:32
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MasterShreknathex, #winehq12:32
ScuniziW8TAH|laptop, saw your call sign and look you up.. most don't know what that is.. :)12:33
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neopsycheerUSUL: ok so synaptic is almost done12:33
Vendeta6MasterShrek doing that gives me the same loop as always12:33
W8TAH|laptopahhh - -cool12:33
neopsycheerUSUL: whats next after its installed?12:33
W8TAH|laptopwondered how you got it12:33
nathexMasterShrek: thanks :)12:33
ScuniziW8TAH|laptop, kd6wqk.. also a long time photog.. but not my profession.12:33
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neopsycheerUSUL: ?12:34
MasterShrekVendeta6, well boot your install cd, and go in and edit that file (/boot/grub/menu.lst) and remove splash, but i dont even know if thats what is doing it12:34
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erUSULneopsyche: sudo nvidia-xconfig12:34
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neopsycheerUSUL: from command prompt or can i do that while in gui? from terminal?12:34
MasterShrekneopsyche, either way12:34
DARKGuyhey, is it possible to have two gnome sessions on the same user? say, one for compiz and eyecandy and other for a lightweight environment?12:34
Vendeta6MasterShrek how do i edit that file this is a sever edition and theres no live cd12:35
neopsycheMasterShrek: cool12:35
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neopsycheMasterShrek: ;-)12:35
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MasterShrekneopsyche, actually, u have to do it in gui12:35
criminy/dev/hdc4             301G -2.9G  289G   -  /media/hdc412:35
criminyAm I sending my data into the oblivion here?12:35
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MasterShrekVendeta6, does it ever boot to a command line?12:35
DARKGuywow.12:35
neopsycheMasterShrek: the synaptic package manager has finnished .. but it has a screen saying 'setting up nvidia-glx-new'12:35
criminyI get negative numbers and a negative sign for the percentage12:35
Vendeta6MasterShrek no it dosent12:36
MasterShreklet it sit there neopsyche it might take a little bit12:36
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MasterShrekVendeta6, do you have any other distro that u can just boot to modify that file?12:36
erUSULneopsyche: frpm terminal12:36
MasterShrekVendeta6, almost anything will work12:36
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markelhashi ppl i've installed one asus pci wireless card (56mb/s) and transfering files over home network is slower that the wireless (11mb/s) that cames with my laptop. What can i do to solve this problem?12:37
neopsycheI clicked 'automatically close after the changes have been applied' (box) and it closed.. so i guess that the changes are finnished12:37
Vendeta6MasterShrek I have a dream linux distro live cd will that work?12:37
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markelhas!network12:37
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:37
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MasterShrekVendeta6, it should, as long as it can read whatever fs your ubuntu install is, which it will12:37
neopsycheerUSUL: ok.. it seems to have written changes to xorg.conf etc.12:38
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neopsycheerUSUL: New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'12:38
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Vendeta6MasterShrek im booting dream linux atm12:38
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neopsycheerUSUL: do i need to reboot now?12:38
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neopsycheerUSUL: what the sudo is dream linux?12:38
erUSULneopsyche: Crtl + Alt + Backspace12:38
BurdonLINUX SUCKS12:39
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astro76Burdon, need some Ubuntu help or just trolling?12:39
Viking667Burdon: fine. Then don't use it, but don't bitch about it either.12:39
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markelhas!network12:40
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:40
MasterShrekBurdon, funny, i say the same thing about vista in #windows12:40
markelhashi ppl i've installed one asus pci wireless card (56mb/s) and transfering files over home network is slower that the wireless (11mb/s) that cames with my laptop. What can i do to solve this problem?12:40
Vendeta6MasterShrek what do u want me to do now?12:40
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MasterShrekVendeta6, mount your hard drive12:40
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Vendeta6MasterShrek ight12:40
GMWeezelhow can i view the passwords on ubuntu if im root? i cant find the passwords file12:40
neopsycheok im stuck in comand prompt again12:40
MasterShrekVendeta6, then as root or use sudo to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst12:41
erUSULneopsyche: same error?12:41
astro76GMWeezel, you can't view them anyway, you can change them12:41
neopsycheMasterShrek: ok im stuck in command prompt again12:41
MasterShrekVendeta6, then scroll to the bottom, and remove splash from the end of the kernel line or lines that you want to boot12:41
GMWeezelastro76: even as root? you cant view them?12:41
astro76GMWeezel, they are encrypted12:41
Vendeta6MasterShrek ok just a second im just getting into DreamLinux now12:41
GMWeezelastro76: ah so it only does checksum comparisons; no plaintext available?12:41
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erUSULneopsyche: writte down the drivers versions it errors about12:41
MasterShrekneopsyche, what were u doing? i just kinda jumped in on u again lol12:41
astro76GMWeezel, checksum is not the right term, but yeah no plaintext passwords12:42
neopsycheerUSUL: yes.. it seems i have a different kernel nvidia version to my nvidia driver12:42
neopsychethe nvidia12:42
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INTithi12:42
GMWeezelastro76: alright thanks. hash checksum whatever; i suck at jargon right now12:42
curbhi12:42
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MasterShrek!hi12:42
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!12:42
neopsycheerUSEL: the nvidia driver and kernal driver versions are different i need to change kernel to upgraded version12:42
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erUSULneopsyche: but what versions??? the error msg must hasve said what versions mismatch12:43
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curbdoes anybody know how to bring a process to the foreground which i bg'ed and exited that shell ?12:43
neopsycheerUSAL: is there a way i can paste the log files to pastebin from command prompt12:43
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curbi relogged and now i want to bring it to the foreground again, same user...12:44
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Hellhammer-USSRGreetings12:44
kitchecurb: fg12:44
GanlainHello12:44
erUSULneopsyche: there are just two numbers... 9635 or 9755 or something like that... no need to copy paste12:44
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astro76curb, all jobs end with the shell, unless you keep the shell running in screen12:44
astro76!screen | curb12:45
ubotucurb: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen12:45
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neopsycheerUSUL: ther kernel version issue says something about 7 something or other12:45
Hellhammer-USSRwhen i was installing ubuntu it said that there was problem unmounting the temp files or something12:45
curbkitche: i know fg, but ive no clue how to bringt it back with it12:45
flyingslothswhere are startup error logs stored?12:45
Vendeta6ugghhh MasterShrek dream linux froze it may be a min12:45
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curbyeah i know screen :)12:45
MasterShreklol Vendeta612:45
pommerhow do i install games on ubuntu12:45
curbbut i didnt use it with that progi12:45
MasterShrek!games12:45
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php12:45
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markelhashi ppl i've installed one asus pci wireless card (56mb/s) and transfering files over home network is slower that the wireless (11mb/s) that cames with my laptop. What can i do to solve this problem?12:45
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astro76curb, then the bg jobs and all child processes of that shell died when you closed it12:45
Vendeta6MasterShreki said it was a linux distro never said anything about it being good12:46
curbno it didnt :))12:46
curband it shouldnt12:46
astro76curb, it most certainly should12:46
curbno becuz i bg'ed it before i exited12:46
curbits just mpg321 which is playing a mp3 list12:46
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AzMoo[w] How do I upgrade my kernel? Every time I do, apt-get upgrade linux-generic it tells me the packages have been held back12:46
curbon my server12:46
erUSULneopsyche: well the only way that this error stills ocurring after the purging and reinstalling is that someone else (envy or you or automatix) instaled "manually" some other version of the nvidia driver12:47
Ling-Ling_back again... i dont really understand how to rename a file... i think i forgot to give the textfile her extention...12:47
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FlannelAzMoo[w] : you need to do a dist-upgrade for kernel updates12:47
curband i wondered if its possible to grab that process again in the foreground (i screen does the thing)12:47
AzMoo[w] Flannel: Wont that put me up to gutsy?12:47
curbi + know12:47
FlannelAzMoo[w] : no12:47
erUSULneopsyche: if that's the key i can not help you further...12:47
FlannelAzMoo[w] : apt-get upgrade only upgrades the current packages to newest versions, dist-upgrade will pull in new packages (the kernel images themselves are different packages)12:47
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Vendeta6MasterShrek its taking about a hour to boot this linux distro.... its horible12:48
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neopsycheerUSUL: yes i think i downloaded and installed nvidia perhaps12:48
erUSULneopsyche: if you used envy you can try to use it again ... but is an evil script12:48
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erUSUL!envy | neopsyche12:48
ubotuneopsyche: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!12:48
AzMoo[w] Flannel: ah, I see. Is it safe to do that without breaking things?12:48
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FlannelAzMoo[w] : dist-upgrade is how you can upgrade to newer versions, but you need to change your repositories in order to do that.12:48
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curbwell, no suggestions 4 my sweet process? ;)12:48
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Hellhammer-USSRhow would i correct a disk mount error?12:48
EvaLuaTehello12:48
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neopsycheerUSUL: i think perhaps i installed the drivers manually12:48
erUSULneopsyche: if you used the run package from nvidia.com unnistall all the packaged drivers and rerun the instaler12:48
FlannelAzMoo[w] : yeah, its just a complete upgrade, instead of a mostly-complete upgrade.  Compeltely safe12:49
astro76curb, so you exited the shell, and mpg321 kept playing?12:49
AzMoo[w] Flannel: gotcha, thanks.12:49
FlannelAzMoo[w] : well, as safe as upgrade is, anyway.12:49
silentwhat is the command to list sound devices?12:49
AzMoo[w] Flannel: indeed :D12:49
erUSULneopsyche: i mean uninstall nvidia-glx-new12:49
curbyeah becuz i kicked it in the background to play on12:49
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EvaLuaTecould someone tell me a identd server that can send responds to ident requests depending on the folder the program is running from ? or if oidentd can do this and i am missing something ?12:49
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MasterShreklol Vendeta612:50
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kitchecurb: seems like it kills the process type bg and see what you get for output12:50
curbastro76: it was in the foreground => CTRL-Z ... then bg, afterwards exit CTRL-D ... relog ... now i want to use it again ... I just wondered if i can get it in the foreground again12:50
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kitchecurb if it says there's things in the background just type fg12:51
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astro76curb, I completely understand all that, I'm saying when you ctrl+D and close the shell, the backgrounded process should have died too, type jobs and see if there are running jobs12:51
astro76but I doubt it12:51
markelhasi've installed one asus pci wireless card (56mb/s) and transfering files over home network is slower that the wireless (11mb/s) that cames with my laptop. What can i do to solve this problem?12:52
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curbkitche: :)) no it doesnt work ... was my first thought anyway12:52
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ThePubcurb: you need a program called "screen" to keep a process between sheel.s12:52
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astro76curb, because to bg a process is still only relative to that shell12:52
Vendeta6MasterShrek how do i mount the hard drive and what would it be named? (sorry im a noob)12:52
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Hellhammer-USSRdoes any1 know how i would correct a disk mount error?12:52
curbThePub: omg :) i know screen, thx alot :)12:52
gnomefreakhmmmmmmm12:52
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kitchecurb: if there is no background process then the bg process that you did is gone12:53
vbabiyHello is there any one that can help me with setting up firestarter as a gateway12:53
AzMoo[w] Well it almost worked. I did the dist-upgrade but now my console is all upper-case :\12:53
vbabiyI have it runnig12:53
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curbkitche: i know it should :) music is still playing on my hi-fi12:53
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curbhm12:53
Picihmmm12:53
curbthink theres my old shell12:53
vbabiybut when i turn on the firewall no one get a ip from my DHCP server12:53
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kitchecurb: nevermind you don't get it12:54
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neopsycheok12:54
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neopsycheMasterShrek: ..12:54
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markelhas!asus12:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about asus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:55
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neopsycheerUSUL: the error output on the nvidia driver when i try to start xorg says .. error API mismatch.12:55
curbkitche: omg pls ... sure im gettin it ... but i already did 1000 times "ps --forest auux" and theres my process "mpg321 -Z -@ MYLIST" but it hasnt got a parent shell12:55
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curbive absolutely no clue y12:55
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Vendeta6MasterShrek how do i mount the hard drive and what would it be named? (sorry im a noob)12:56
kitchecurb: because you killed the parent shell12:56
markelhas!network speed12:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about network speed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:56
Hellhammer-USSRhow do i make so when i mount the disk it doesnt crash at boot12:56
neopsycheerUSUL: the NVIDIA kernal module has version 1.0-7184 but this x module has the version 1.0.975512:56
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curbkitche: yeah, and u said my process had to kill with it, and it didnt ... so what?12:56
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kitchecurb: you can't bring it to the foreground then you have to kill the process12:57
MasterShrekVendeta6, type fdisk -l12:57
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neopsycheMasterShrek: see messages to erUSUL12:57
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neopsycheMasterShrek: can you help with that?12:57
curbkitche: ok thats it :) just wanted to know ... i used screen everytime, but i was just wondering if that is possible anyhow ... so thx kitche !12:57
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MasterShrekVendeta6, that will give u a list of possible partitions, next you type: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt (substitute hda1 with whatever your linux partition is)12:58
Vendeta6MasterShrek i tpe that and it says command not found12:58
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MasterShrekneopsyche, i think u would be best off just downloading the driver from nvidias site and compiling it yourself, what was your gfx card?12:58
neopsychegeforce660012:58
MasterShrekVendeta6, type: sudo su     and be root12:59
MasterShrekneopsyche, yea you should just use nvidia's driver from their site, thats what i do12:59
neopsychethanks people12:59
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Vendeta6MasterShrek i type sudo su it brings me to :/home/morph#01:00
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GanlainHi, when i instal Ubuntu, my system loads at command line .. how do i get in to boot or run desktop app ?01:00
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curbkitche: ppid = 1 ... so it went back to gold old init :)01:00
FlannelGanlain: which CD did you install from?01:00
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MasterShrekVendeta6, type whoami to make sure you are root01:01
GanlainUbuntu server i38601:01
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IndyGunFreakGanlain: lol, thats because ubuntu server is CLI, it doesn't have a GUI, you n eed to install one01:01
Vendeta6MasterShrek yes i am root01:01
curbVendeta6: u already posted the "#" ... sign 4 root ...01:01
FlannelGanlain: That's why.  You installed the server version.  You can install the ubuntu-desktop package, or just download/install from a Desktop or Alternate CD01:01
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phoenix_Where is Polish Ubuntu support?01:02
curbcli 4tw :)01:02
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Flannel!pl | phoenix_01:02
ubotuphoenix_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl01:02
MasterShrekVendeta6, ok, fdisk -l01:02
Ganlainany help files to help me install from version i have ?01:02
phoenix_thanks01:02
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curbgood night01:03
FlannelGanlain: Just do this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop01:03
MasterShrekVendeta6, you should be abel to figure out what partition that file would be on01:03
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NeoGeo64anyone here know when 7.10 is coming out'01:03
MasterShrekVendeta6, next you will do mount /dev/hda1 /mnt01:03
Ganlainty01:03
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b0lleanyone around to help me a bit with my wireless network?01:03
FlannelNeoGeo64: the 18th: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule01:03
MasterShrekVendeta6, thats assuming you are using hda1, u can mount it and if its not there, just umount it and try the next one01:04
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JuppNeoGeo64, in 4 days01:05
Vendeta6MasterShrek fdisk-1 gives me like nothing there says some commands for things here DISK is something like /dev/hbd or dev/sda01:05
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NeoGeo64is there anywhere i can get it early01:05
NeoGeo64like a leaked copy01:05
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MasterShrekVendeta6, use a lowercase L not the number 101:05
kevin__is there any way to check and see if windows os is still on my pc,, I downloaded ubuntu and cannot find windows?01:06
FlannelNeoGeo64: RC has been out for a few days.  #ubuntu+1, and check the topic01:06
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Pricey!gutsy | NeoGeo6401:06
ubotuNeoGeo64: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information01:06
MasterShrekkevin__, fdisk -l   will give you a list of partitions, youll know windows is still there if one of them is ntfs01:06
Vendeta6MasterShrek if i do that i dont get anything it just puts me to the next line01:06
GanlainFlannel, again tyvm for the help!01:06
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kevin__windows is ntfs,  if I don't see ntfs then I have lost windows, ok will try01:06
MasterShrekVendeta6, then it isnt picking up your hard drive, u got some funky hardware huh?01:06
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b0lleanyone around to help me a bit with my wireless network? it worked on the livecd but now after installation, 'dmesg' says: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready01:07
minusHi there... Is there any way to get the Super button to open the Applications menu like in Windows?01:07
aguitelanyone remember me any download manager01:07
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Priceykevin__, (might also be fat)01:07
Priceyaguitel, dta (extension for firefox)01:07
kevin__or fat01:07
kevin__ok01:07
MasterShrekminus, yea somehow, i dont remember how though01:07
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kevin__opening terminal now, thanks for the help01:07
aguitelPricey: ia m looking not extention01:07
minusMasterShrek, x|01:07
MasterShrekminus, i use kde thought too, i dunno if gnome can do it01:08
MasterShrekthough*01:08
minusMasterShrek, ok01:08
markelhashow can i make some test to my home network transfer speed?01:08
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minusmarkelhas, I've been wondering about that too...01:08
kevin__this is from my terminal..../dev/sdb1               1         492      125936    e  W95 FAT16 (LBA)01:09
kevin__ Does this mean windows is still on my pc?01:09
MasterShrekmarkelhas, do you want to test your speed to the internet or the internal speed of your network?01:09
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Vendeta6MasterShrek i clicked fdisk -u and i got some usage menu think01:09
minuskevin__, hm..FAT16 :/ That can not be windows01:09
[mayh3m] g0dHow can I burn an audio cd with serpentine using .mp3's?01:09
markelhasMasterShrek, internal speed.01:09
MasterShrekkevin__, i dont know, do u have a flash drive plugged in?01:09
kevin__yes01:09
MasterShrekmarkelhas, i dunno, transfer a big file between two computers01:09
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kevin__losing flash drive and going at it again01:10
minus[mayh3m] g0d, You start Serpentine and klick "add" ?01:10
markelhasMasterShrek, cause i've installed a wireless 56 m/bit and it slower that the internal 11 m/s :(01:10
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[mayh3m] g0dKeep getting disconnected01:10
MasterShrekwell then use the 11mb/s01:10
[mayh3m] g0dHow can I burn an audio cd with serpentine using .mp3 files?01:10
MasterShrekuse k3b01:10
MasterShrekits much better [mayh3m] g0d01:10
[mayh3m] g0dk3b?01:10
minus[mayh3m] g0d, <minus> [mayh3m] g0d, You start Serpentine and klick "add" ?01:11
MasterShrekyep01:11
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markelhasMasterShrek, the propose is to get better speed .... :|01:11
harry_where can I find a list of APT mirrors01:11
minusharry_, why do you need more APT mirrors?01:11
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minusThe ones in sources.list is all fine..01:11
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harry_minus: I was going to use netselect to see what one was fastest01:12
minusok01:12
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MasterShrekwell markelhas you cant expect perfect hardware support with everything in linux right away, you gotta remember that very few linux drivers have any input from the actual manufacturer, so just because it says it can do 56mb/s it may not, there may be a power transmission problem or something01:12
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Vendeta6MasterShrek i think i know what i need to know now how do i mount it again?01:12
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comicinkerhi! i have a small question: I moved my music collection. can I tell it AMAROK somehow?01:12
harry_minus: it's not really important; just seems like an interesting thing to do01:12
MasterShrekVendeta6, mount /dev/hda1 /mnt01:12
minusharry_, I see... But I have no idea though..01:12
MasterShrekcomicinker, you shuld be able to in preferences01:12
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Rich4Does ubuntu have an itunes equivilant? or will itunes work through wine?01:13
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comicinkerMasterShrek: but than I have to rebuild my collection01:13
MasterShrekRich4, it may work through wine, but amarok will sync with ipods i guess01:13
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MasterShrekcomicinker, probably01:13
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Vendeta6MasterShrek do i put a / after the last mnt01:13
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hmeradoes anyone know how to install a webcam on amsn????01:14
comicinkerMaesterShrek: isnt there a nother possibility?01:14
MasterShrekVendeta6, doesnt matter01:14
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cheatrhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57589401:14
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markelhasMasterShrek, i believe that linux is the way. I hope that some day that every company has support and drivers for linux. Until there i look in forums and irc for help.01:14
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MasterShreki dont know comicinker01:14
markelhasMasterShrek, thnks for the help01:14
MasterShrekmarkelhas, are you running feisty?01:15
chiquesHello Everyone!01:15
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NeoGeo64i am looking fwd to trying the new ubuntu this week01:15
markelhasMasterShrek, nops i've update for 7.1001:15
NeoGeo64im downloading the rc now01:15
b0lleanyone around to help me a bit with my wireless network please?01:15
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MasterShrekmarkelhas, ok just checking, because 7.10 might have had better hardware support01:15
Vendeta6ughh this is hope less MasterShrek i dont know anything of what im doing01:15
MasterShrekb0lle, what kinda card is it?01:15
Random832why does nautilus think i have eight floppy drives, and how do i fix it01:15
Rich4MasterShrek: Is there a guide to setting up that type of sychro?01:16
chiquesI am a long time Mandriva user and recently tried out Ubuntu on my PC system and are having problems.01:16
chiquesCan anyone help me out?01:16
markelhasMasterShrek, and i've managed to put the pci wireless to work, but it's slow transferring files over home network.01:16
MasterShrekRich4, what u mean?01:16
hmeramastershrek is there any way that i could install my webcam, i have ubuntu 7.10 ultimate01:16
comicinkerMaesterShrek: ah, it didn't lost the settings. never underestimate such software01:16
b0lleMasterShrek: orinoco gold, worked great when i loaded the livecd, but now after installation it wont work anymore01:16
W8TAH|laptopi tried installing compiz-fusion - -its now kinda taken control of my machine -- i need to get back to regular KDE till i have more time to mess with it01:16
b0lleMasterShrek dmesg says: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready01:17
W8TAH|laptopi activated it with compiz --replace01:17
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W8TAH|laptophow do i "un-replace" it01:17
MasterShrekb0lle, sorry, i dont know much about orinoco cards01:17
JuppVendeta6, so can you see a ntfs partition with fdisk -l ?01:17
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kitcheW8TAH|laptop: kwin --replace &01:17
b0llek, thanks anyway01:17
W8TAH|laptopthank you01:17
Rich4MasterShrek: I'm trying to set up my zune to connect through Amarok. The setup cd didn't completely work through wine btw.01:17
chiquesWhen I boot the Ubuntoo disk all I get is a brown background with a working mouse pointer...does anyone know what might be causing this?01:17
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cheatrCould someone please help me with a gutsy error? (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575894)01:18
MasterShrekRich4, i dont know if amarok and zunes are compatible01:18
W8TAH|laptopkitche: THANK YOU!!!!01:18
MasterShrek!gutsy01:18
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MasterShrekill be back in 5 minutes...01:18
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silentI'm wondering how I can change the commands executed for keyboard shortcuts, as the volume control does not function01:19
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Vendeta6no fdisk-l gives me nothing at all Masters01:19
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chiquesThis sure is a busy room!01:19
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cheatrMasterShrek: If that was directed at me, I already know that. I've been running gutsy since feisty got released. It also is pretty stable at this point since it is about to be released01:19
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localgod11anyone know anything about mythbuntu01:19
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LinuxJuggalo!mythbuntu | localgod1101:20
ubotulocalgod11: Mythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information01:20
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ubersoldatso cheatr is it worth the upgrade?01:20
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m1rgn all01:20
ubersoldatI have plenty 7.04 machines01:20
cheatrubersoldat: It's pretty stable at this point. Plenty of new features. I see no reason not to upgrade. But give the live cd a try first01:20
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localgod11yes that i know i need help getting it running01:22
localgod11i have it installed and have run into a wall01:22
kitchelocalgod11: it's not supported here01:22
localgod11i know i thought maybe01:23
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cheatrso does anyone know how to solve my gutsy problem (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575894)01:24
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MasterShrekcheatr: gutsy questions in #ubuntu+101:25
cheatrMasterShrek: Thanks01:25
hoth676Hi all. I've just deleted some important files, and need some help to recover. I've unmounted the partition, rebooted that box using the ubuntu install CD. Started /sbin/debugfs. 'lsdel' shows me some files, but when I try 'debugfs: dump 113...8 fname' I get '113..: file not found by ext2_lookup'. I am confused. Any hints?01:25
nippleBiterwhen will gutsy be officially released?01:25
Hazoctober 18th01:26
nippleBiterthanks01:26
Haznp. :)01:26
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PovAddic1I tried to download 7.10-rc using jigdo, but I get 88 missing files01:27
PovAddic1I can't find any mirror with them :\01:27
MasterShrekwhy did u use jigdo?01:27
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andrew_my system is not booting into gnome at all now01:27
Pricey!gutsy | PovAddic101:28
ubotuPovAddic1: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information01:28
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adachi! I get the following error when I try to boot: Error 17. Can anyone help me?01:28
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MasterShrekadac: pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst01:29
MasterShrek!paste01:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:29
andrew_how do i copy a file01:29
MasterShrekcp01:29
andrew_to replace another file01:29
MasterShrekcp -f01:29
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MasterShrekcp -f <source> <destination>01:30
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minusAre there any alarmclocks for gnome? Cause I need to have an alarm that wakes me tomorrow :P01:31
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Mookiehey01:31
MasterShrekminus xmms has a plugin, but u can set a cron job too01:31
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Mookieheres something that strikes as strange01:31
MasterShrek!cron01:31
ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm01:31
adacMasterShrek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40660/01:31
MookieI just did a clean install of gutsy, my internet tells me im connected, but i dont get any data back01:32
minusMasterShrek, well.. I don't use XMMS at the moment.. I wondered if there where some specific apps for that..01:32
Mookieon wireless01:32
Mookiewired is good01:32
MasterShrekminus: use a cron job, its easy to do01:32
minusMasterShrek, Ill google it right away01:32
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MasterShrek!cron | minus01:32
ubotuminus: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm01:32
minusow01:33
minusThanks :)01:33
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fnord124Hi all. I have a networking issue where I can connect to netgear routers fine and dandy, but after a few minutes, traffic to the outside world dies. I can login to the router config pages over http but nothing outside. I cannot ping google, for example. However, none of my other machines have this problem. Only my linux laptop. And it's a problem I see when I went to a friend's house. Has anyone seen this kind of behaviour and now how to fix it?01:33
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MasterShrekadac: look at your root lines, they got cut off and put below, u need to have that whole line, from "root" to "splash" on one line01:34
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BerzerkerI'm having a problem with my wireless01:34
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MasterShrekfnord124: what kind of card is it?01:34
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Berzerkerit stops working after I reboot.01:34
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MasterShrekBerzerker: what kind of card?01:35
andrehey guys:  I'm running wine and installing a multi-disc application.  I have to switch disk, but wine won't let me eject the first one... Any ideas?01:35
Berzerkerwhat's the command to update lspci01:35
MasterShrekandre take iso01:35
Travisanybody know of a good ftp server for ubuntu server?01:35
MasterShrekiso's of each disc01:35
MasterShrekproftpd01:35
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Travisthanks01:35
MasterShrekBerzerker: i dont think it gets updated01:35
Berzerkerthere's a command to update the information, though01:36
andreMasterShrek: cool and those can be loaded with wine?01:36
MasterShrekandre should be able to, or else you can mount them and just use their files01:36
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adacMasterShrek: can i renew this menu.lst file with a knoppix live cd for example?01:36
andrek01:36
Rich4What does this mean: "Open a console/terminal and cd to the download directory." ?01:36
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Rich4"cd to the download directory"01:37
MasterShrekBerzerker: i doubt it, theres no reason for the list of your pci devices to get updated, since you wouldnt really be adding or removing pci devices while your pc is on01:37
BerzerkerI got it01:37
Berzerkerit's update-pciids01:37
MasterShrekhmm01:37
HazRich4: cd is a command in unix which means "change directory"01:37
Berzerkerbut it says download failed, permission denied01:37
fnord124MasterShrek: It's a problem with my broadcom bcm4401-b0 100base-tx (rev 02) and my Intel Pro/wireless 3945ABG network connection (rev 02) (according to lspci)01:37
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riotkittieRich4: it means... Change Directory. if you have a term open... type cd  and the directory name01:37
MasterShrekBerzerker: sudo01:37
Berzerker/usr/share/misc/pci.ids.gz.new01:37
Berzerkerah01:37
Rich4ty01:37
Berzerkerthere01:37
Berzerker0b:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5418 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)01:38
MasterShrekfnord124: im not sure how to set up an intel wifi card, but they are generally pretty easy01:38
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MasterShrekBerzerker: what do you do when u reboot to get it working?01:38
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fnord124MasterShrek: I get some luck when I restart my networking or if I run dhclient or dhclient3 over and over again until it works. but i'd prefer to fix it01:39
BerzerkerI haven't gotten it working yet01:39
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andreMasterShrek: wine has an eject function, just found out, simply type "wine eject"01:39
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MasterShrekBerzerker: you can just put those commands in /etc/rc.local and theyll happen each time u boot01:39
Berzerkerafter I reboot.01:39
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BerzerkerI imagine a reconfigure rebuild would do it01:39
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Berzerkerbut I don't want to have to do that each time I reboot.01:39
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Sivart0stupid internet01:40
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MasterShrekits the internet thats stupid right?01:40
MasterShrek=P01:40
Sivart0yes01:40
Sivart0it kicked me xD01:40
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MasterShrek=P01:41
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riotkittie^ is also travis01:41
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fnord124No, I am Travis01:42
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pvl1im having a problem with jackd and alsa01:42
Sivart0couldnt find package proftpd ><01:42
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MasterShrekshould be in there01:42
TixerIf I upgrade to the beta version of 7.10 right now, can I upgrade to the final version on Thursday without any extra effort?01:42
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MasterShrekyea Tixer01:42
Sivart0know of any other ftp servers?01:42
WinballTixer no need, only updates are needed01:43
MasterShrekur serious proftpd isnt in there?01:43
andrecheers01:43
Sivart0yes O_o01:43
Winballtixer if im not wrong01:43
Tixerlink to upgrade guide from 7.04?01:43
AudriilHey, does anyone know how to fix nVidia Twinview related problems?01:43
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Sivart0sudo apt-get install proftpd01:43
Rich4Can anyone give me an example of a cd command to switch to a home directory?01:43
astro76!upgrade | Tixer01:43
ubotuTixer: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:43
Cpudan80Rich4: cd ~01:43
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Sivart0cd /home/name01:43
Cpudan80Rich4: cd ~user01:43
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cafuego'cd' (your own home dir)01:44
astro76Rich4, cd by itself will switch to your home, as will cd ~01:44
Rich4what command does the tilde perform?01:44
KudakRich4: if you type "cd" alone it will bring you to our own home directory automaticly01:44
pvl1can anyone help me with jack and alsa?01:44
Tixerwhat version is 7.10 on right now?01:44
AudriilCan anyone help with dual monitors?01:44
MasterShrekthe tilde ~ is your home directory01:44
WinballTixer update-manager -d01:44
minusMasterShrek, Hm.. I cant get it to work :/01:44
TixerRC?01:44
MasterShrek~/Desktop would be your desktop01:44
minusMasterShrek, 44 1 * * * vlc /media/Warez/music/Shpongle\ -\ Tales\ Of\ The\ Inexpressible/07-once_upon_the_sea_of_blissful_awareness-ms.mp301:44
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fnord124ok the problem came up again. I cannot  access outside sites; and I cannot ping. I think it's something to do with dns since I am clearly still in this channel01:44
minusCan you confirm if that is right?01:44
TixerIs 7.10 on RC yet?01:44
MasterShrekTixer: yes01:44
Winballyes01:44
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eulogy_It's been RC for a while.01:44
MasterShreki just installed it actually...gotta reboot01:44
Tixerok01:44
cafuegoWarez, that's just classy.01:44
TixerUpgrade time!01:45
Rich4and what do I do in the case of spaces in the folder names?01:45
minuscafuego, ;)01:45
AudriilHelp with x.org recognizing multiple monitors?01:45
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WinballHad problems with xmms-flac under gutsy. What gievs?01:45
cafuegominus: vlc probably won't run from cron,a s $DISPLAY won't be set.01:45
minusIm running 7.10. Its awesome01:45
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eulogy_I agree.01:45
AudriilDoes someone know how to make twinview recognize the fact that a computer has two monitors? (i.e. so it maximizes to one, rather than both)01:45
Pricey!gutsy | minus01:45
ubotuminus: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information01:45
Winballminus try installing xmms-flac01:45
eulogy_It's fantastic.01:45
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meoblast001hello01:45
Berzerkerso...?01:45
Berzerkeranyone have any suggestions?01:45
meoblast001how do i download an entire SVN folder?01:45
pvl1has anyone had any success with jackd and alsa?01:45
astro76Rich4, as you see in what minus just pasted, you can escape spaces with \, or put the entire path in quotes01:45
minusPricey, well.. it isn't rly unstable..01:45
Priceyminus, I don't care.01:46
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Kudakwhen installing ubuntu and creating partitions, whats the diff between Logical and Primary partitions ??01:46
kevin__If I post the results of fdisk -l, can any one tell me if I still  have the windows operating system?01:46
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defishguyRich4 the easiest thing to do is use the TAB key.  For instance if I have a (god forbid) "program files" folder in the home directory I would type cd ~/pro and then hit tab to finish the line for me.  Remember it is case sensitive.01:46
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AudriilCan someone help me fix twinveiw?01:46
Tixerdoes upgrading to 7.10 require rebooting?01:46
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minuscafuego, what command should I do instead?01:46
PriceyAudriil, start by pasting your xorg.conf01:46
Pricey!gutsy | Tixer01:46
ubotuTixer: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information01:46
Audriilk01:46
BerzerkerPricey01:46
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AudriilHere?01:47
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minusTixer, Probably.. Cause it updates the kernel01:47
Berzerkermy wireless breaks when I reboot.01:47
kevin__xorg config01:47
Rich4yes01:47
cybermark_deafciao a tutti01:47
Juppaudriil, are you useng beryl?01:47
silentBerzerker, man interfaces01:47
PriceyBerzerker, don't reboot then01:47
TixerAwwww. There goes my uptime record.01:47
minusTixer, How high? :P01:47
Sivart0hmmm01:47
PriceyTixer, there is no need to update to gutsy01:47
AudriilJupp: I'm not using beryl or compiz01:47
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DM|Whats the command to shut down via terminal?01:47
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Berzerkerthat doesn't really help me.01:48
PriceyDM|, sudo halt01:48
Tixerwhy is there no need to update?01:48
fnord124init 601:48
kevin__Does it looklike I have windows still................. Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250000000000 bytes01:48
kevin__255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30394 cylinders01:48
kevin__Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes01:48
kevin__   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System01:48
kevin__/dev/sda1   *           1       29638   238067203+  83  Linux01:48
WinballDM| shutdown -r now01:48
kevin__/dev/sda2           29639       30394     6072570    5  Extended01:48
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DM|pricey thanks,01:48
minusDM| shutdown?01:48
kevin__/dev/sda5           29639       30394     6072538+  82  Linux swap / Solaris01:48
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KudakDM|" shutdown -n01:48
cafuegominus: I'd go mpg321 or somesuch01:48
KudakDM|" shutdown -now01:48
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minuscafuego, ok01:48
minusthx01:48
Juppaudriil, I had the same problem, but I can't remember how I fixed it01:48
PriceyKudak, sudo shutdown -h now01:48
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fnord124sudo init 601:48
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JuppI think it went away once I started using beryul01:48
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Tixerwhy is there no need to update?01:48
AudriilJupp: What problem, exactly?01:48
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cybermark_deafscusa qualcuno parla italiano01:49
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Gehackteshuh01:49
Gehackteshuhu01:49
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Juppaudriil, maximizing a windows and then it would maximize to both monitors01:49
PeloTixer, what do you mean "no need to update" ? who told you that ?01:49
Kudakwhen installing ubuntu and creating partitions, whats the diff between Logical and Primary partitions ??01:49
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cybermark_deafsono qui la prima volta la stanza ubuntu :-)01:49
AudriilJupp: I can get my second LCD to work; the problem is that windows maximize to both, and my taskbars stretch across both.01:49
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defishguyanyone here get the ipod touch working yet?01:49
Pici!it | cybermark_deaf01:49
ubotucybermark_deaf: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:49
AudriilJupp: You definately had the same problem as I01:49
cybermark_deafthx01:49
cybermark_deafubotu :-)01:50
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Juppaudrill, hold on, let me take a look at my xorg.conf to see I anything rings a bell01:50
Rich4what am I doing wrong in this case?01:50
Rich4rich@poor-user:~$ cd ~/my\ received\ files/01:50
Rich4bash: cd: /home/rich/my received files/: No such file or directory01:50
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AudriilJupp: Ok, thanks.01:50
PeloKudak,  you can only have 4 primary partitions on an hdd , higher then that you have to use logical , don'T ask me why01:50
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TixerPelo: I'll find the user....01:50
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Sivart0how do i update the component stuffs? >_>01:50
cybermark_deafho installato ubuntu :-)01:50
Tixer<Pricey> Tixer, there is no need to update to gutsy01:50
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defishguyRich4 check for capital letters in the path01:51
Pelox01:51
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Rich4its case sensitive?01:51
BillyBeansquestion, how do i diable iptables from starting up?01:51
defishguyYes it is.01:51
PeloSivart0,  the update manager will tell you when packages become available, don'T worry about it01:51
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LinuxJuggaloRich4: try cd "my recieved files"01:51
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cyber_deaf_italy:-)01:51
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DM|Anyone know a good wake on lan guide?01:51
kevin__can some one tell me if I still have windows. if I paste my resullts for fdisk -l?01:51
PriceChildTixer, because feisty is supported for another year01:51
WinballRich4 Or try using the TAB button to complete your line01:51
kevin__Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250000000000 bytes01:51
kevin__255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30394 cylinders01:51
kevin__Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes01:51
kevin__   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System01:51
kevin__/dev/sda1   *           1       29638   238067203+  83  Linux01:51
kevin__/dev/sda2           29639       30394     6072570    5  Extended01:51
kevin__/dev/sda5           29639       30394     6072538+  82  Linux swap / Solaris01:51
PeloBillyBeans,  iptables only starts if there are rules in it , unless you made some don'T worry about it01:51
kevin__kevin@kevin-desktop:~$01:51
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Winballkevin__ ffs01:51
meoblast001does anyone know how to download an entire folder in SVN ????01:52
BillyBeansPelo, i guess i did, it is starting now how do i diable it?01:52
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carlosV2good night01:52
pvl1Anyone have any success with jackd and alsa01:52
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kaiboo01:52
carlosV2can i get an printer driver set up with the sistem?01:52
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TixerDoes it look like I care how many years Feisty is supported for?01:53
carlosV2in other words, there are a folder with the printer drivers?01:53
TixerI'll take bleeding edge any day.01:53
cyber_deaf_italyI have to learn English slowly .. Someone you can speak English .. Why are back room ..01:53
Mookiewhat kind of problems?01:53
PeloBillyBeans,   iptables -L  will tell you if you have any rules ,  man iptables to learn how to get rid of them01:53
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guillermuloaqui nadie habla espaol01:53
PriceChild!es | guillermulo01:53
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ubotuguillermulo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:53
carlosV2guillermulo, no, aqui es ingls01:53
Mookiehello?01:53
AudriilMookie: Hi.01:53
PelocarlosV2,  menu > system > admin> printers01:53
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carlosV2Pelo, but in this place, i can't get a file with driver01:54
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PelocarlosV2,  you mean your model is not listed ?01:54
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meoblast001does anyone know how to download an SVN branch?01:55
carlosV2Pelo, i don't want to install a printer, i want only the driver01:55
PelocarlosV2, hold on01:55
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carlosV2Pelo, my printer isn't in the list, i print with other driver that runs perfectly01:55
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PelocarlosV2,  printer drivers in linux are not like in windows these links may help   http://localhost:631/  http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting01:56
PirateHeadDoes anybody know of a program that can create charts with logarithmic axes, or know how to get OpenOffice to do it?01:56
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LinuxJuggalo!printer | carlosV201:57
ubotucarlosV2: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows01:57
PeloPirateHead,  I think there are some "special" charts prog, check in add /remove , I've seen some stuff in there that is way over my head01:57
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PeloPirateHead,  you can also try asking in #openoffice.org01:57
carlosV2ok, really thanks, i'm going to see it now01:57
BillyBeanshey is solaris hard?01:57
PeloBillyBeans,  yes, very hard, stick to ubuntu01:58
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defishguyAnyone in here get the ipod touch to work?01:58
Pelo;-)01:58
Pelodefishguy, work how ? do you mean just connected and able to tranfer files to it ?01:58
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defishguyYes.01:58
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BillyBeansPelo, is kde better than kubuntu?01:58
Pelodefishguy,  amarok can do it and so  can gtkpod I beleive01:58
MasterShrekBillyBeans, kubuntu used kde01:59
PeloBillyBeans,  kde vs gnome is a matter of personnal preferences01:59
Juppaudriil, I sent you a pm01:59
defishguyThat's what I thought too.   They both work with the "classic" ipods but they don't appear to work with the touch.01:59
LinuxJuggalo!KDE | BillyBeans01:59
ubotuBillyBeans: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.01:59
BillyBeansi use kubuntu,01:59
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MasterShrekgood choice BillyBeans =D01:59
BillyBeansubotu ok01:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:59
Pelodefishguy, do a search for your model in www.ubuntuforums.org01:59
MasterShrekBillyBeans, ubotu is a bot, u dont have to talk to him :)01:59
BillyBeansok02:00
Pelo!botsnack02:00
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!02:00
defishguyI did.  Nothing new in the forums.  Just thought I'd ask here too.02:00
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Pelobut we still need to feed it every now and again02:00
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LinuxJuggalohahaha02:00
defishguyThanks for the thoughts though.  I appreciate it.02:00
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bhagman88hi02:00
Pelodefishguy, you can try asking on different days at different times,   the crowd it here changes a lot02:00
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bhagman88I'm a complete novice when it comes to linux02:01
MasterShrek!hungry02:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hungry - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:01
defishguyI sure will.02:01
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Pelobhagman88, welcome to the mad house02:01
defishguyThank you.02:01
bhagman88I'm ssh'd into a linux server and I was wondering how I can go about viewing files02:01
PeloMasterShrek, donT' play with the bot02:01
Ashfire908bhagman88, nano?02:01
ArtVandalaebhagman88: what kind of files?02:01
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MasterShrekwe played tennis yesterday, ubotu kicked my butt02:01
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LinuxJuggalobhagman88: ls -la will display all files on your current directory02:02
Flannelbhagman88: less is probably easiest02:02
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chalcedonyi did sudo apt-get install a2ps  (print program) but it's not working, does anyone have ideas ?02:02
pvl1has anyone had any success with jackd and alsa?02:03
BillyBeanshow do i start my ssh server?02:03
chalcedonypvl1: my son poked at those, good luck with it it does work02:03
FlannelBillyBeans: When you install it, it starts automatically02:03
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PriceChildBillyBeans, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start02:04
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BillyBeansnow how to i get rid of iptables?02:04
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BillyBeansiptables is blockin my apache web server02:04
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PriceChildBillyBeans, please pastebin the output of sudo iptables -L02:04
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BillyBeansPriceChild -- how do i turn it off02:05
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minusHow do I make a crontab that launches my shellscript?02:05
AudriilJupp: Someone on ubuntu-effects may have fixed my problem.  Thanks for the help.02:05
BillyBeansis it just sudo iptables -F02:05
jrib!cron > minus (read the private message from ubotu)02:05
PriceChildBillyBeans, please pastebin the output of sudo iptables -L02:05
FlannelBillyBeans: Unless you added something manually, its not blocking your apache02:05
minus4 2 * * * alarm didn't work02:05
jiam02:05
Innomendont have permission to write to a drive an external drive, how do i change this?02:05
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noelferreirawich program should i use to notify me for events marked by me ( a kind of alarm and agenda)?02:05
jribminus: give the full path02:06
DM|Ok so whats the command for putting a computer to sleep ?02:06
JuppAudrill, what was the solution?02:06
minusjrib, I've read those.. but something doesn't work02:06
minusjrib, ok02:06
JuppAudriil, what was the solution?02:06
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Rich4What do I do when a guide tells me to go to "System" > "Administration" > "Software Properties", yet on my system I have "System"> "Administration"> "Software Sources" ?02:06
jribRich4: go to it02:06
FlannelRich4: theyre the same (different versions of ubuntu call it different things)02:06
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Innomencome on now, this cant be a hard answer, i though it would be somewhere in properties but if it is i'm just not seeing it02:07
AudriilJupp: [17:00]  <scottDkoDer> Audriil: The thing that fixed it for me was installing compiz fusion as my window manager and defining the screens in ccsm02:07
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Rich4On v4.1 I had this same problem, so I upgraded to v7.04. It still says it02:07
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jribInnomen: what filesystem?02:07
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minusjrib, 7 2 * * * /home/sebastian/alarm That should execute my script right?02:07
AudriilJupp: Which follow through, because TwinView only stopped working when I installed a different window manager (QT)02:07
jribminus: yes02:07
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Rich4I cant get it to say software properties02:08
minusjrib, but it doesn't :/02:08
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minusjrib, didn't*02:08
jribminus: pastebin the script02:08
Rich4Is it something I can install via package?02:08
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FlannelRich4: You don't need it to say software properties02:08
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jribRich4: the guide is old, not your system02:08
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minusjrib, #!/bin/bash02:08
minusvlc /media/Warez/blablabla path to file02:08
Rich4the guide has pictures and directions specific to software properties, not software sources02:09
minusthats how it looks..02:09
Rich4oh02:09
minusjrib, the script works if I do "./alarm"02:09
Innomenpici: mounted external drive wont let me write to it, what do i do?02:09
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minusInnomen, Is it ntfs ?02:09
jribminus: the wiki link I gave you explains what you need to do for gui apps.  Let me know if it still does not work02:09
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Innomenminus: hmm, not sure, assume it is02:10
PiciInnomen: I actually just rebooted, and I am going off to get some food, sorry.02:10
minusjrib, ok thx02:10
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Innomenpici: np, enjoy chow man :)02:10
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minusInnomen, Then you got to do some configuring in fstab with ntfs-3g02:10
ColroI'm sitting here with only firefox, pidgin, and xchat open and my cpu is sitting at 100% usage -- my computer seems to run fairly slow with ubuntu as compared to winXP as well...is there anything that could be causing this? it's entirely usable, and desktop effects run on full without even a bit of slowdown, but it's kind of annoying02:10
SpartanHow do i install Java SE JDK version 6 update 3 on Ubuntu 6.10?02:10
jribInnomen: you need to find out02:10
GrandadJoeI need help, i need to disable iptables it is blocking my apache web server, can anyone help?02:11
Innomenahhh, oky, thanx guys, i can probly google it from here, i'll be back if i hit a wall02:11
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Rich4An installation in konsole said this: Enable the universe/multiverse repositories. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu for more information.02:12
Rich4Please read the installation notes. Press <enter> to continue or 'q' to quit:02:12
minusjrib, should I execute my script with that "DISPLAY=:0" thingy or the "vlc /path/to/file...." thingy?02:12
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Rimesin interfaces under /etc/network, what does the line auto eth0 for?02:13
jribminus: set DISPLAY in your crontab02:13
Rich4How do I enable universe/multiverse repositories02:13
jribminus: both would work I guess02:13
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DARKGuyhey guys, is there a reason why everytime I put a CD/DVD in my drive, a directory with the CD/DVD's label is created instead of being mounted in /media/cdrom (or /media/cdrom0) but instead in /media/MYCDLABEL - is there a way to revert it to the original behaviour?02:13
minusjrib, ok.. I'll try it out02:13
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jribRich4: read the link you just pasted02:13
Audriil<Rich4> Go to synaptic package manager and enable them in repos settings02:13
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FlannelRich4: Follow the guide on that page02:13
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minusjrib, Thank you :)02:14
jribminus: no problem02:14
minusjrib, works flawlessly02:14
Rich4I did. the page the guide directs you to is outdated02:14
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Audriil<Rich4> System>Admin>Synaptic then enable in repos settings02:14
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FlannelRich4: No, its not outdated, its still 100% valid, except 'software properties' vs 'software sources'02:14
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Rimesin interfaces under /etc/network, what does the line auto eth0 for?02:15
minusjrib, you don't happen to know how to make it fade in by starting the mastervolume from 0 to a specific number?02:15
jribRich4: it's the same thing... a gui app where you mark a checkbox for the repos you want02:15
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mrbrdohey02:15
minusGonna go google some I think02:15
mrbrdoif i'm doing partitions manually, which ones do i have to make except / (ext3)?02:15
jribminus: nope, you could try the vlc channel02:15
mrbrdoswap sized double my RAM? (i have 2 gigs of ram tho)02:16
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jribmrbrdo: you need one for swap and one for /home is a good idea02:16
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mrbrdojrib is 2 gigs swap ok for me?02:16
jribmrbrdo: yes, should be02:17
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LawlietDo any of you know anything about xubuntu?02:17
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jribLawliet: best to just ask the channel your next question and see if anyone knows the answer02:18
LawlietI ask because no one there responds to anything I say.02:18
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Lawlietjrib: The entire channel is idle.02:18
DARKGuyhey guys, is there a reason why everytime I put a CD/DVD in my drive, a directory with the CD/DVD's label is created instead of being mounted in /media/cdrom (or /media/cdrom0) but instead in /media/MYCDLABEL - is there a way to revert it to the original behaviour?02:18
GrandadJoeplease help if i type sudo iptables -F02:18
jribLawliet: I meant here02:18
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GrandadJoemy internet goes down02:18
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xoss_gud day!02:19
GrandadJoeim 65 yrs old i need help02:19
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xoss_guys need a litle help on users management on ubuntu02:20
LawlietOK, my problem is that my computer seems to crash all the time.02:20
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LawlietOn top of that, apps seem to freeze all the time and force me to pkill them.02:20
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LawlietJust now, amarok stopped working and I had to restart my computer because it wouldn't start up no matter what I did.02:21
carlosV2really thanks02:21
LawlietNow my computer is restarted, and the toolbars on my desktop aren't even there anymore.02:21
maekI have a thinkpad and it has 3 buttons for the trackpoint, is it possible to make it so when I hold down the middle button the trackpoint acts as a mouse wheel/scroll wheel?02:21
carlosV2now, i'm going to sleep02:21
carlosV2bye!02:21
carlosV2:)02:21
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xoss_how can i limit a user to only accessing the browser and office suite and not edit anything on the desktop..02:21
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c0rrupt0rIs there a way to Recover a Password in Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty?02:22
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minusGood night fellow linuxians XD02:22
minusTime for some sleep02:22
maekc0rrupt0r: you cant recover linux/unix passwords in general02:22
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maekc0rrupt0r: if you have the shadow file you can run it against a password cracker like jack the ripper or something.02:22
kitchec0rrupt0r: what password?02:22
c0rrupt0ror a way to change it so i can get root access again?02:22
maekc0rrupt0r: can you still use sudo?02:23
c0rrupt0rno02:23
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kitchec0rrupt0r: if it's root you need to boot to a livecd and chroot in then change the password that way02:23
LawlietDoes anybody know why that sort of thing might be happening to me?02:23
LawlietIt happens seemingly all the time.02:23
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maekc0rrupt0r: you can boot from the rescue disk, mount local /etc and then delete the second :' seperated col in /etc/shadow02:23
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kitchec0rrupt0r: don't even touch /etc/shadow by hand02:23
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akeei have a quick dns question - for some reason dns won't resolve ip's on my webserver but it used to. i am trying to set my network up after a move / new isp. i'm assuming the issue has something to do with this but i can't figure it out since my laptop connected to the same network has no problem with dns02:24
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c0rrupt0rok i read up on it on the web and nothing i found worked. thank you kitche and maek02:24
maeksorry for the bad advice, Thats just the way Ive always done it.02:25
GrandadJoeplease i need help, how do i disable iptables, it screwing up my Apache02:25
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LawlietDoes anybody know why my computer might be crashing all the time?02:25
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GrandadJoedoes anyone in hear know anything abouyt iptaBLES?02:25
LawlietIt only happens when I idle.02:25
maekGrandadJoe: /etc/init.d/iptables stop ?02:25
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LawlietAlso, it slows down my applications a lot.02:25
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LawlietI have to restart and kill applications all the time, and right now my desktop is messed up, all of my toolbars are gone.02:26
GrandadJoemaek , that does work02:26
GrandadJoecommand not found02:26
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maekGrandadJoe: maybe its a kernel mod? lsmod |grep iptable , you might be able to rmmod if you see something that looks right. I havent used iptables02:27
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heatmanHello, i just formated my pc and installed Ubuntu 7.04 desktop. Now I have followed everything I could find about installing my nvidia card but nothing seems to be working. I had the same prob last time howerver I was able to configure it in Ubuntu's previous version. Could someone help me to fix that problem plz?02:28
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DARKGuyhey guys, is there a reason why everytime I put a CD/DVD in my drive, a directory with the CD/DVD's label is created instead of being mounted in /media/cdrom (or /media/cdrom0) but instead in /media/MYCDLABEL - is there a way to revert it to the original behaviour?02:28
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pike_heatman: what model card?02:28
GrandadJoemaek, can u send me the config file u have for iptables02:28
heatmanpike_: its a Gforce 4000MX, PCI if im not mistaken02:29
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DARKGuyhey guys, is there a reason why everytime I put a CD/DVD in my drive, a directory with the CD/DVD's label is created instead of being mounted in /media/cdrom (or /media/cdrom0) but instead in /media/MYCDLABEL - is there a way to revert it to the original behaviour?02:30
Rich4I need help installing my printer HP Deskjet D420002:30
Rimesdoes linux have a program that is equivalent to ghost for windows02:30
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jribGrandadJoe: did you ever get to pastebin your iptables rules?  There are no rules by default, so any rules you have now are a consequence of some software installation or other action of yours02:30
pike_heatman: and sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx; sudo nvidia-xconfig; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart doesnt work?02:31
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heatmanRimes: there is a command to back up like if u were using a ghosting app in Windows02:31
maekRimes: dd?02:31
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kitcheRimes: there is many partimage is more like ghost which uses tar and such02:31
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Rimesya i've seen those kitche... i've gotta see them in action though02:32
Rimesthanks02:32
gustavodoes anybody here has a SD Card reader on the notebook and had problems about loading this data?02:32
dimas_i am having problem streaming tv from the net on vlc with mozilla-plugin-vlc,....when is an external window to display the streaming it close firefox as a crash02:32
heatmanpike_: nah... when i do that it change my .conf file which device is "nvidia" and crashes my Xserver. Hence i need to modify it to "nv" so I can get access to X but at the same time it does not enable 3D accelaration02:32
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gustavodoes anybody here has a SD Card reader on the notebook and had problems about loading this data? please, pvt-me or post here the sollution02:33
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riotkittieoops :>02:33
AudriilCan someone help? My windows maximize to both monitors...02:33
umerhello everyone, i just switched over from windows to ubuntu gutsy today, and i gotta say, i am impressed, much better experience compared to previous versions02:33
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umerand this time i think i am going to stick around02:33
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Rimesyay umer!02:34
BillyBeanswhats a good file manager to run in kubuntu, not nautilus?02:34
umerif i can get this one little problem fixed02:34
umeri have an hp laptop02:34
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xp_prg2I cant make double quotes work on my evo n1000v laptop :(02:34
umerand i cant seem to get sound to work02:34
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kitcheumer: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support02:34
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Rimeswait a min... gutsy?02:34
citronbleu-vhello, i'm french and i would to learn the english02:34
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tsukasaanyone know if there is a linux program to listen to itunes shares or any other cool network programs to snarf shared stuff02:34
meheviumer, for one, try posting your question all on one line, two, what sound card do you have?02:34
riotkittie!gutsy | Rimes02:34
ubotuRimes: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information02:34
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Rimesyou're about to be two versions behind there umer02:35
DARKGuyhey guys, is there a reason why everytime I put a CD/DVD in my drive, a directory with the CD/DVD's label is created instead of being mounted in /media/cdrom (or /media/cdrom0) but instead in /media/MYCDLABEL - is there a way to revert it to the original behaviour?02:35
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BillyBeanscan kubuntu join a windows domain?02:35
kitcheDARKGuy: that is the original behavior02:35
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meheviBillyBeans yes it can, package name is samba02:35
Ashfire908BillyBeans, all ubuntus can02:36
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BillyBeansusweet02:36
BillyBeanssweet02:36
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DARKGuykitche, nope, it never has been in my edgy/feisty installs, it always mounts the drive in /media/cdrom and it's fixed like that :/02:36
BillyBeanswhere is the gui located for me to attach this ubuntu box to a domain?02:36
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kitcheDARKGuy: for me it does it in feisty but since your probably on gutsy #ubuntu+102:37
DARKGuykitche, besides, that behaviour confuses wine because /media/cdrom never gets mounted02:37
citronbleu-vsamba and for a print on windows ?02:37
DARKGuykitche, I'm not in gutsy02:37
DARKGuykitche, else I would be in #ubuntu+1 :P02:37
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michael__I wondering if anyone could help me edit a read only file in ubuntu02:37
shane_ls02:37
kitcheDARKGuy: sounds like it if you used feisty in past tense02:37
shane_oops02:37
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riotkittiemichael__: what file are you attempting to edit?02:37
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michael__menu.list02:38
kitcheDARKGuy: but anyways you need to dig into hal's config files to do what you want02:38
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DARKGuykitche, more than twice, since edgy in fact :P, both in my desktop, laptop and work pc.02:38
riotkittiemichael__: alt + f2 and then gksu gedit /path/to/file  or sudo nano /path/to/file in a term02:38
michael__for some reason there are double entries02:38
AudriilHow does one upgrade to gutsy from fiesty? (through the terminal)02:38
DARKGuykitche, okay, /etc/hal.d or something?02:38
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riotkittiemichael__: before you do that, back it up! :P   sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.old02:38
TixerI'm having a problem with Update-Manager, in that it wants to update Wine, but can't. How can I tell it to ignore Wine?02:39
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shane_My hosting company has just installed Ubuntu Server for me, and when I try to install lighttpd (same happens with Apache btw) on it, it just won't accept requests from the outside world. nmap localhost -p 80 says that port 80 is closed. How do I open it does anybody know?02:39
kitcheDARKGuy: no clue don't use hal02:39
ZambeziYeah. Kernelpanic in Dapper. :-/02:39
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BillyBeanswhere is the gui located for me to attach this ubuntu box to a domain?02:39
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umer i just installed gutsy today, switching over from windows, and its the best version of ubuntu thus far, i am impressed and will stick around, if i can get this problem fixed. ive got a ho dv2213ca laptop, i think the sound card is a conexant, but i cant get sound to work02:39
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DARKGuykitche, mmmmm that could be - what do you use for automounting your cd/dvds then?02:39
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heatmanpike_: u have any other ideas?02:39
kitcheshane_: start the daemon and open the port02:39
Mookiecan someone help me troubleshoot my wireless? It worked fine in feisty, i upgraded to gutsy and it tells me im connected to the network but im recieving no data02:39
kitcheDARKGuy: I don't use anything to automount02:39
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ZambeziIf Dapper kernelpanics, which version should I use then?02:40
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Mixxumer was that prelude necessary?  no one cares if you go back to windows02:40
DARKGuyd'oh.02:40
shane_The daemon is running, but I don't know how to open the port?02:40
dug_Audriil: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:40
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xp_prg2guys my laptop keyboard is not working right with the double quotes, can anyone help me to fix this?02:40
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riotkittieumer: do me a favor. open a terminal and type the following lspci | grep audio02:40
DARKGuykitche, well that's a good clue at least, time to go searching for hal config files, thanks :)02:40
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PuZzLeHelp Ubuntu no update , error in the linux-generic02:40
umeri did that riotkittie02:41
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dug_Audriil: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:41
riotkittieumer: and it reported conexant ?02:41
umerit didnt report anything02:41
michael__ok02:41
umerit just came back to a blank line02:41
michael__I did it but I did't back it up02:41
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pike_heatman: sorry i usually install manually. do a google search for like nvidia ubuntu latest02:41
Audriil<dug_> Thanks02:42
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dug_Mookie: what card are you using?  what driver?02:42
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shane_kitche: The daemon is running, but I don't know how to open the port?02:42
Mookie?02:42
Mookieanybody02:42
dug_Mookie: what card are you using?  what driver?02:42
umerriotkittie: it didn't report anything, it just went to a new blank line02:42
kitcheshane_: iptable -L and see if iptables is blocking the port02:42
Mookiek02:42
Mookieuh02:42
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heatmanpike_: so u compile the driver from the packages located at nvidia's website?02:42
PuZzLedug_, error in linux-image and linux-restricted-modules*02:42
Mookiei believe its an athos02:43
PuZzLeHelp02:43
Mookiehow do i find out what driver im using02:43
riotkittieumer: ok.  lspci -vv  then. does multimedia controller show up?02:43
Mookie?02:43
modocHow can I expand an xfs drive to take up /dev/hda3 (current drive) and /dev/hda1 (open drive) ?02:43
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dug_Mookie: what computer model are you using?02:43
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Mookietoshiba p25 s50902:43
BillyBeanswhere is the gui located for me to attach this ubuntu box to a domain?02:43
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kitche!info swat | BillyBeans02:44
ubotubillybeans: swat: Samba Web Administration Tool. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 800 kB, installed size 2180 kB02:44
riotkittiedoh.02:44
shane_kitche: Aha, you were right. I've fixed it now. Thanks.02:44
albertohey guys someone know how to solve a surround sound problem with Intel ICH5?02:44
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riotkittiei cant believe i just closed that tab.  dur dur dur.02:44
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umerriotkittie, not that i can see02:44
holycow.02:44
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Seeker`alberto: Got any more information about the problem - what exactly is wrong?02:45
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riotkittieumer: then my suggestion to you would be to hit the forums and post a message in the laptop section :|02:45
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umerokay, thanks02:46
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PuZzLehelp!!! error in ubuntu msg error : problem in linux-image, linux-generic and linux-generic-modules02:46
dug_Mookie: I'm not sure what card yours uses, but do you by chance know if you are using the madwifi driver?02:46
Mookiei honestly dont know02:46
albertoSeeker, when i get ubuntu installed i can hear sounds trough my rear speakers on a 4.1 configuration, but after the first "software upgrade" it stops working, now i can't have any sound on my rear speakers and i've tried what they say on the forum and nothing seems to work.02:46
Mookieim a n00b02:46
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Mookiehow can i find out02:47
Mookie?02:47
MookieI know that 6.1 worked fine with no issues 2 hours ago02:47
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Seeker`alberto: You checked out the volume settings? (sorry if it sounds silly, but its best to double check everything :))02:47
Mookieright now i can connect it says but nothing gets transmitted02:47
riotkittieMookie:  what dont you know? driveR?   open a term, type lshw -C network | grep driver02:47
riotkittieMookie: i can't swear that that will work tho02:47
Sivart0im having problems installing proftpd ><02:47
dug_Mookie: you can also run lcpci to see what drivers you are using02:48
heatmanis there such a thing as a "run" tool in gnome like there is in KDE? I wanna add that to my application menu02:48
dug_lspci i mean02:48
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jribheatman: alt-f2 brings it up02:48
Viking667heatman: there is, I believe. It's possibly an applet.02:48
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Mookie lshw -C network | grep driver02:49
Mookie       configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=full ip=192.168.0.11 latency=32 link=yes maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 module=8139too multicast=yes port=MII speed=100MB/s02:49
Mookie       configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath_pci driverversion=0.9.4.5 (0.9.3.2) latency=168 maxlatency=28 mingnt=10 module=ath_pci multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11g02:49
heatmanjrib: nice I was unaware of that command. TY!02:49
vbabiyhey is there any one that use guidedog02:49
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Seeker`heatman: You can add the "run application" applet to the panel02:49
Mookieusing lcpci in a terminal didnt do anything for me02:49
albertoSeeker: yeap, see when i first installed ubuntu i have an option in the volume settings that let me choose whether i want a 2 speakers, 4.1 or 5.1 configuration but now i don't have it anymore.02:49
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albertoSeeker: *had02:49
heatmanSeeker: ty02:50
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Seeker`alberto: Is it just the rear sound you are missing?02:51
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eclecticwhat is wrong with my computer if it boots up, and works for a period of time, and then my monitor goes black and says "shutting off in 5 seconds"... and i cant get it to wake back up without turning it off and turning it back on02:51
albertoSeeker: yeap, front speakers are fine.02:51
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dug_Mookie: I can't find the answer, sorry, but here are some threads that might be related to your issue (one suggests using ndiswrapper & the windows driver instead of ath_pci for example): http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=ath_pci+ubuntu+gutsy&btnG=Google+Search02:51
Seeker`in the volume control, do you have sliders for "surround"?02:51
heatmanis there a diff between firefox and Swiftfox?02:51
Seeker`alberto: ^^02:51
eclecticheatman- swiftfox is supposed to be faster02:52
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Mookiethanks02:52
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albertoSeeker`: yeap and i have it at 100%02:53
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Seeker`hmm02:53
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Rich4How do I find the ppd file for a printer for linux?02:53
Seeker`alberto: not sure then, sorry02:53
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Sivart0can anybody tell me why apt-get isnt working?02:53
sdre1I have an averatec 3200 that I can't connect to the internet with (via wifi), it has the RaLink RT2500 wireless card in it. I've searched the forums (and google) and this appears to be a difficult wireless card to get working. All the solutions I've found don't provide very thorough instructions, so I'm at a loss on how to get wireless working on my laptop. Can anyone help me out?02:54
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albertoSeeker`: don't worry thanks anyway, hey is there a way to "reinstall" the sound drivers or something like that (sorry if its a dumb question)02:54
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eclectici thought it would be cool to install vista on my laptop, and i was wrong02:54
dug_Rich4: this site has some, but if you are using an hp printer, try hp-lip: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting02:54
dug_hplip i mean02:54
riotkittiesdre1: i have a RT2500 based adapter, though mine is USB. Ralinks are better supported under Gutsy to some extent, if you are willing to upgrade on the 18th but i found my card to be touch and go, so we will talk about alternatives02:55
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dug_Sivart0: what error are you getting?  remember to use "sudo" and be connected to the internet when you use it02:55
Seeker`alberto: I guess you could remove and reinstall the packages, but I dont know if that would do you any good - it may be harmful for the system (ie. I wouldn't recommend it)02:55
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Sivart0i used sudo and i think im connected to the internet02:55
gentoonHow can I install pidgin?02:56
Sivart0it's ubuntu server02:56
albertoSeeker`: ok, thanks anyway02:56
kitche!pidgin | gentoon02:56
ubotugentoon: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.002:56
sdre1riotkittie: the 18th is when 7.10 comes out?02:56
reedhow can i add eth002:56
gentooncan someone help me install pidgin?02:56
albertohey guys someone know how to solve a surround sound problem with Intel ICH5 (i don't have any sound on rear speakers)?02:56
riotkittiesdre1:  you can try compiling the serial monkey drivers  @ rt2x00.serialmonkey.com [?.net]  but I think this demands a kernel recompile.  Network Manager does not like ralink, so alternatively, you can compile RuTilt which is an alternate manager which does work well with ralink. orrrr. you can go the ndiswrapper route02:56
riotkittiesdre1: yes02:57
dug_sdre1: did you try the acerhk module?02:57
riotkittiesdre1: a word of warning tho  > my ralink worked out of the box on gutsy but performed miserably, and i ended up using ndiswrapper and the windows drivers, for the sake of sanity.02:57
ZambeziKernelpanic in Dapper. Is another version more stable?02:57
Sivart0how can i test to see if im connected?02:57
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dug_gentoon: are you using ubuntu feisty?  if you really want pidgin, i would just upgrade to gutsy, where pidgin is installed by default02:58
riotkittieZambezi: kernel panics dont mean a version is unstable...  where are you kernel panicking?02:58
sdre1riotkittie: which option will get me wpa encryption? and preferably easy roaming abilities?02:58
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Zambeziriotkittie: It happened during sudo lshw|grep hd02:58
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pvl1can some1 help me with xserver03:00
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Seeker`pvl1: what problem are you having?03:00
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RedLXXXIVHey all03:00
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pvl1seeker: well actually i think its xserver bc its xorg. but its gotta do with sound03:00
Seeker`pvl1: what problem are you having?03:01
Name141I was thinking about making a switch to ubuntu from XP, however I remember that I made my external HD NTFS , will Ubuntu (or any linux) be able to read/write from it/to it ?03:01
riotkittiesdre1: native drivers + network manager. i'm not sure if you can do anything but command line config with ndiswrapper :|03:01
SuperQName141: yes03:01
joshjoshName141, Yes.03:01
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Name141Automatically ?03:01
riotkittiei'm sure there's gotta be a front end for it but i've had no need to check into it as i'm on a desktop :o03:01
pvl1seeker creox wont work bc it cant load devices03:01
gentoondug_, is that the only way?03:01
Sivart0Name141: depends on the distro03:01
pvl1seeker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40668/03:01
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riotkittie brb03:02
Sivart0i remember having to setup and install stuff to be able to write to ntfs03:02
Sivart0but that was ubuntu 603:02
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SuperQSivart0: latest ubuntu should have ntfs 3g03:02
RedLXXXIVName 141 - Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) will read NTFS partitions03:02
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iStiKsgentoon: http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=146203:02
iamthesalamaladit03:02
Name141RedLXXXIV: what about write ?03:02
paralepi'm waiting for the next release03:02
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astro76Name141, starting with 7.10, ntfs will be read/write by default, but you can add it to early versions03:03
MasterShrek!ntfs-3g03:03
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions03:03
dug_gentoon: here's another way if you want to keep feisty (gutsy is due out next week tho): http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-pidgin-200-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-plugin-pack.html03:03
paralepi have another machine i want to use for ubuntu03:03
modocHow can I find the UUID of a partition for fstab?03:03
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RedLXXXIVName141: I'll get the name of the prog you will need to install to write as well. one sec03:03
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astro76!uuid | modoc03:03
ubotumodoc: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)03:03
modocastro76, thank!03:03
sdre1riotkittie: if I want to install the beta of 7.10 right now, it won't have too much of a problem upgrading on the 18th when the final version is out, will it?03:03
tusseyI only have 3.7mb left on my HD how do I see the size of all my files in a list view?03:04
SuperQName141: ntfs-3g - read-write NTFS driver for FUSE03:04
Flannelsdre1: nope.  And the RC is out too, not just beta anymore03:04
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Name141SuperQ: I don't know what any of that means.03:04
killuxdoes anyone have the dell all in one A940 printer working?03:04
RedLXXXIVName141: I used Automatix2 to install the Automatix Mounter03:04
sdre1Flannel: ok, I think I'll just try that03:04
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Seeker`pvl1: What problem do you have with the app? does it start? does it just not play sound?03:04
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LjLtussey: you could try  du | sort -n  from a shell, but i suggest you also try Baobab, although it isn't a "list view"03:04
astro76!automatix | RedLXXXIV03:04
ubotuRedLXXXIV: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)03:04
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Sivart0grrrr v_v03:05
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SuperQName141: use the directions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions03:05
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Simon-PhoenixFlames Effect not working ;/03:05
SuperQName141: should be all you need to mount NTFS read/write03:05
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SuperQName141: with 7.04 and newer03:05
tussey!hfs03:05
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:05
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tussey!fuse03:05
ubotuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems03:05
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gentoondug_, how hard is the gusty upgrade?03:06
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riotkitt1ewow, i'm a dolt. if you use ndiswrapper, network manager is fine.03:06
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dug_gentoon: it's very easy if you have a fast internet connection, but will take probably an hour or maybe longer03:06
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RedLXXXIVastro76: what does the ! before the name do???03:06
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paraleplinux was the most amazing thing when I frist tried it out03:06
gentoondug_, have a link ill do it03:06
astro76RedLXXXIV, it tells ubotu to give information, read what ubotu said right after ;)03:06
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SuperQparalep: :)03:06
RedLXXXIVastro76: ahhhh, thanks!03:06
Name141OK, second thing is , I have a Microsoft NIC, that didn't work on the last LIVE disk I tried (not sure of the version).  I was told to eidt the "tulip" driver for it , however seeing as I don't know much about linux , I do not know if it is worth trying or not.03:07
doncasteel8587Hello everyone, I just cloned my HD with Norton Ghost, when I try to boot the new HD, I get a screen full of the word "GRUB" like an infinite loop. Any ideas what's wrong?03:07
Name141edit*03:07
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paralepbut i want to take a look at the 2.6 kernel internals03:07
SuperQparalep: when I first started using linux, I really didn't have enough ram (4MB)03:07
eclectichaha wow, 4mb ram?03:07
Illiterate_beef4mb ftw03:07
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SuperQeclectic: 386 33mhz DX!03:07
Viking667wow.03:07
Viking667sounds like what I had...03:08
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eclecticSuperQ- heck YES03:08
Sivart033Mhz O_O03:08
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ozzloymy sound stopped working.  can someone please help me get it woring again?03:08
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eclecticozzloy- twist the volume to the right03:08
Illiterate_beeflol03:08
ozzloyeclectic: heh, thanks03:08
SuperQSlackware 3.0!03:08
SuperQI think03:08
riotkittieD:03:08
pvl1seeker: it doesnt run. itll load, but wont do what it should03:09
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gentoondug_, ?03:09
albertohey guys someone know how to solve a surround sound problem with Intel ICH5 (i don't have any sound on rear speakers)?03:09
Seeker`pvl1: what isn't it doing that it should?03:09
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gentoonubotu!03:09
paralepi'll get my other machine back and run that with ubuntu03:09
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doncasteel8587Hello everyone, I just cloned my HD with Norton Ghost, when I try to boot the new HD, I get a screen full of the word "GRUB" like an infinite loop. Any ideas what's wrong?03:10
gentoon!ubotu gusty03:10
Sivart0haha!03:10
ubotuIt is spelt !guTSy :)03:10
paralepor maybe dual my macbook hd03:10
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pvl1seeker: it is supposed to modify sound, its a guiter effects app. takes in sound, modifies it, and sends out ot the speakers. it uses JACK03:10
gentoonubotu !gusty03:10
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gentoon:(\03:10
riotkittiecheeky bot03:10
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gentoonHow can I upgrade to gusty?03:10
riotkittie!gutsy | gentoon03:10
ubotugentoon: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information03:10
tech0007!gutsy03:10
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Sivart0im an idiot ><03:11
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Illiterate_beef*boredom*03:11
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RedLXXXIVAnyone have an idea on how I can get my ENE CB-712/4 card reader working?03:11
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gentoondoesnt show me howto upgrade?03:11
dug_gentoon: sorry, was on another channel.  I think you run 'sudo update-manager -c -d' or something like that03:11
ozzloymy sound normally works fine.  how do i find out what process is using the sound device?03:11
gentoonCan anyonew help me upgrade to gusty?03:11
Sivart0i think all i had to do was "sudo apt-get update" XD03:11
gentoonsomething like that dug_03:12
gentoon?03:12
tech0007gentoon....#ubuntu+103:12
ozzloyis it a good idea to just kill that process?03:12
riotkittie-> #ubuntu+1 <-03:12
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doncasteel8587Hello everyone, I just cloned my HD with Norton Ghost, when I try to boot the new HD, I get a screen full of the word "GRUB" like an infinite loop. Any ideas what's wrong?03:13
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Seeker`pvl1: I understand that, but i need to know what part of the application isn't working to help you.03:13
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pvl1seeker: it cant open devices. thats all it is03:13
pvl1seeker: or atleast is trying to open the wrong devices03:14
Seeker`pvl1: which devices is it trying to use?03:14
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pvl1Seeker: alsa drivers03:14
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Sivart0proftpd installed and getting errors O_o03:14
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Seeker`pvl1: do you have other sound programs installed? do they work? what devices do they use?03:15
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SgtOompaHi I'm a complete linux novice and I've been instructed to document a linux server onto a wiki03:15
pvl1seeker: well my other apps used ALSA instead of JACk which is a sound library03:15
jeduanhi, i am trying to instal plone, but when i log into localhost:8081/manage it asks for username and pass, problem is it never stopped to ask questions, which is the default user/pass?03:15
SgtOompaI was wondering I can go about doing this?03:15
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pvl1seeker: however i dont know exactly what theyre usin03:15
GuHHHhow can i make my system boot by network?03:16
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luciano_uiskhi03:16
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luciano_uiskis there a way to execute a command when i log into my machine?03:16
Flannelluciano_uisk: login to gnome?03:16
eckluciano_uisk: add it to your .bash_profile or .bashrc03:16
astro76!startup | luciano_uisk03:17
ubotuluciano_uisk: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot03:17
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riotkittieis there a way to change the size of desktop icons? [all of them, at one time] 03:17
doncasteel8587Hello everyone, I just cloned my HD with Norton Ghost, when I try to boot the new HD, I get a screen full of the word "GRUB" like an infinite loop. Any ideas what's wrong?03:17
luciano_uiskno, i am using gnome, but i wanted into BASH, ...03:17
xp_prg2what is the package that has Gtk+2.6?03:17
luciano_uiskjust like in slackware, ..03:17
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luciano_uiskhow can i put it into bashrc?03:18
Ashfire908are blocks a set unit of measurement?03:18
luciano_uiskjust add a line called "fortune"?03:18
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eckluciano_uisk: correct03:18
astro76Ashfire908, block size can vary03:18
MasterShrekluciano_uisk, nano ~/.bashrc03:18
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rrittenhouseI have a brand new copy of "Foundations of Qt Development by Apress" I won it at Ohio Linuxfest. Problem is.. I dont use KDE - does anybody else here happen to have a GTK+ book they would be willing to trade?03:18
riotkittieluciano_uisk: yea. or create .bash_login  if it doesnt exist, and add it there03:18
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eckriotkittie: look at gconf-editor, there's probably a gconf setting for it03:18
luciano_uiskthanks for all03:18
Ashfire908astro76, is there set sizes or could it be anything (i'm not formating a hd)03:18
riotkittieeck: i've been digging through it  :|03:19
Mookiehow can i find out why my sound isnt working?03:19
SgtOompaany advice people?03:19
astro76Ashfire908, some typical values go from 512 bytes to 4kbytes, it's determined by file system03:19
luciano_uiskwell, it worked03:19
luciano_uiskthanks for all03:19
riotkittiei'm sure its there, hiding like a tiiiiiny criminal. :|  and doing it extremely wel.l03:19
pianoboy3333hey where can I get the flash standalone player for linux?03:19
doncasteel8587GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB03:19
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riotkittiedoncasteel8587: simmer down :P03:19
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doncasteel8587That's what happens when I try to boot :P03:20
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SgtOompaDoes anyone have any advice of where I can start documenting a server?03:20
astro76SgtOompa, hmm?03:21
ColroI'm trying to run VirtualBox and nothing will boot up -- I keep getting the error " VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Re-setup the kernel module by executing '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root. " -- when I try to execute that, though, it says that the command isn't found.03:21
riotkittiedoncasteel8587: better than LiLo's never ending 9s. but anyway. let me see what i can find03:21
SgtOompao thanks :-)03:21
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SgtOompawell I need to document a server03:21
eckSgtOompa: what do you mean?03:21
SgtOompaand I've ssh'd into it03:21
tattersIf I create a desktop shortcut to a application that requires root access what user name do I use to run as different user?03:21
doncasteel8587I double checked Menu.lst and it seems ok, I don't know what to try next, (except re-cloning)03:21
SgtOompawell I've been instructed03:21
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SgtOompafor my inpendant research project03:21
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SgtOompato just document my research room03:21
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SgtOompathing is03:21
Flanneltatters: gksu -u username command03:22
SgtOompamy entire research room at my school is full of linux pc's03:22
Flanneltatters: Oh, sorry.  Just gksu command03:22
SgtOompaand I've never used linux03:22
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SgtOompaso I'm ssh'd into one of the servers, I jsut have no idea how to start03:22
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Flannel!cli | SgtOompa03:22
ubotuSgtOompa: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:22
SgtOompaI'd appreciate any advice :-)03:22
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tattersFlannel: using kde so would that be kdesu -u ./script03:23
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ColroI'm trying to run VirtualBox and nothing will boot up -- I keep getting the error " VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Re-setup the kernel module by executing '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root. " -- when I try to execute that, though, it says that the command isn't found. Does anyone know what I can do to fix it?03:23
guli-gulihi03:23
Flanneltatters: no -u if youre doing it as root, but yeah, kdesu03:23
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Flanneltatters: And you probably ought to give it an absolute path03:23
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SgtOompathanks ubotu!03:23
astro76SgtOompa, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html03:23
SgtOompaI'll see how this works for me :-)03:23
SgtOompaoo03:23
SgtOompathanks astro03:23
tusseyI only have 3.7mb left on my HD how do I see the size of all my files in a list view? I need to find out what I can delete03:24
astro76SgtOompa, and there's lots of other guides on tldp.org too03:24
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guli-gulii was moving photos from one folder to another, then I get an error... and the photos had disapeared. I looked in the Trash... but they are not there. Can I recover them?03:24
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guli-guliplz!!!03:24
tsukasaanyone know of a program to add widgets to your desktop such as network monitor03:24
astro76guli-guli, what was the error?03:25
SgtOompaoo03:25
SgtOompathanks a lot guys!03:25
RedLXXXIVGuys! I'm having an issue!!!! Ack!03:25
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Flannelguli-guli: Theyre not in either folder?  What error?03:25
astro76SgtOompa, do you know what distribution (flavor) of linux the computers are running?03:25
guli-gulithe first folder disapeared and the second one is empty...03:25
RedLXXXIVWhen I play a video in GXine, I get video but no sound, and when I use MPlayer, I get no video but I get sound!03:25
tsukasaRedLXXXIV, so play the same file at the same time with both03:26
Flannelguli-guli: You were dragging/dropping? or CLI? or what?03:26
tsukasa=P03:26
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RedLXXXIVlol tsukasa! I have been03:26
guli-guliThe error said I was trying to overwrite some photo with the same name... so I said to omit03:26
guli-guliFlannel I was using nautilus, copy paste03:26
tsukasaRedLXXXIV, either use vlc or fix your codecs03:26
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tsukasaRedLXXXIV, ubuntu-restricted-extras or something.03:26
Rich4how do i get wolfenstein ET to work properly on linux? it asks that I have voodoo drivers or something..03:26
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RedLXXXIV!vlc | Redlxxxiv03:26
RedLXXXIVhm.03:27
RedLXXXIVtsukasa: Will try, tks03:27
tusseycan anyone help me? I'm trying to get folders to display their size in list view, not number of files03:27
FlannelRich4: you should check the forums (ubuntuforums.org) theres a bunch of threads on W:ET there03:27
Rich4ty03:27
Sivart0anybody here know how to set up muddleftpd?03:27
guli-guliastro76 any clue?03:27
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realshivahi guys, i got problems booting my ubuntu, after installing it onto hdd grob tells me that on hdf1 is no partition. editing the grub line to hdd2 wont help03:28
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pike_tussey: you could do a du -ach /directory  but thatll likely be a big list you can also ls -lS to sort by size in a directory03:28
astro76tussey, I don't think nautilus has that option... that would cause a lot of disk activity when browsing03:28
MopCould someone help me with connecting to the internet by any chance?03:29
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tusseyhmm03:29
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tusseywell I haven't downloaded anything but my hard drive space vanished03:29
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tusseyI'll try du03:29
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pike_tussey: maybe a 'sudo find / -name * -size +5000k'03:30
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astro76tussey, try applications > accessories > disk usage analyzer03:30
Absenthhow do I set cpufreq to start at boot?03:30
realshivado someone know a trick how i find the right partition?03:30
tusseyoh wow, ty astro7603:30
riotkittiedisk usage analyzer is all kinds of fun.03:31
pike_tussey: er.. * in quotes like '*'03:31
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MopCould someone help me with connecting to the internet?03:31
guli-guliFlannel there's nothing i could do... I guess isn' t it ?03:31
riotkittierealshiva: do you have a live cd? are you using a live cd at the moment?03:31
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astro76Mop, you might want to state your specific problem/question03:32
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realshivariotkittie no i dont got a live cd, i use my winxp workstation03:32
Flannelguli-guli: Well, if your files are actually gone, it's definately a bug.  I'm not too familiar with the GUI though, so I can't help a whole lot unfortunately03:32
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tusseyty I found the culprit! thanks #ubuntu03:32
Mopastro: Well I entered all the stuff in Admin Networking (DNS server, IP, etc), and FireFox still said it couldnt connect.03:32
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guli-guliFlannel, thnx03:33
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Ashfire908anyone know what "kerberos" is?03:34
guli-guliFlannel, through console what could I look for?03:34
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rust!kerberos03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kerberos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:34
MopCould someone help me with connecting to the internet? I entered all the stuff in Admin Networking (DNS server, IP, etc), and FireFox still said it couldnt connect.03:34
pike_!info kerberos03:35
ubotuPackage kerberos does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:35
rustAshfire908: its something to do with authentication03:35
Xirois there anyone here who has gotten Ubuntu 7.10 working with the Sony Vaio SZ6* series laptops? I am having a couple problems that are keeping me from adopting ubuntu as my OS03:35
khello03:35
jdongAshfire908: kerberos is an authentication protocol03:35
realshivaAshfire908 kerberos is a kind of networking authentification protokoll03:35
rustAshfire908: usually only used on an MS network if im not mistaken (and I could be)03:35
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jdongAshfire908: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerberos_%28protocol%2903:36
jdongrust: you are mistaken03:36
realshiva:-)03:36
riotkittierealshiva: can you burn a cd? http://freshmeat.net/projects/supergrub/ < super grub boot disk may be helful03:36
jdongrust: MIT runs all our authentication via Kerberos, and there's less than 5% Microsoft population on public terminals03:36
rustjdong: maybe I should go and check out that wiki page as well then :)03:36
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realshivariotkittie i will try03:36
mannytuhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerberos_(protocol)03:36
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OmniusG'day, I have 2 NICS in my computer, one being for the internet and the other being my LAN server, what IP should i use for the LAN server?(server doesn't need net access)03:37
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jdongOmnius: something in a private reserved range03:37
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eckOmnius: i would just pick a 10.x subnet and use that03:37
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realshivaOmnius something in 10.x.x.x or 172.16.x.x or 192.168.x.x03:37
jdongOmnius: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4#Private_networks03:37
HegemonWhat's the gutsy channel again?03:37
jdongHegemon: #ubuntu+103:38
Omniuscheers03:38
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Xirowould anyone be willing to assist me with a guide/tutorial to get suspend/hibernate working with gutsy on my sony vaio SZ650 laptop? this is keeping me from wanting to run ubuntu03:39
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realshivawhile im trying to boot, do someone know a programm what i can use to "mount" .iso files into my filesystem ?03:39
Hacim07hi guys, I have a quick/n00b question:how do I make gnome stop treating a cd as audio and mount automatically  when I insert it.03:39
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astro76!iso | realshiva03:39
uboturealshiva: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.03:39
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umerwhat bittorrent does everyone here prefer?03:40
realshivaastro76 :-) thx03:40
rainwalkerHacim07: Have you looked in System -> Preferences -> Removable drives and media03:40
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jdongrealshiva: if you want it to mount at boot, put an entry in /etc/fstab03:40
realshivajdong i know thanks :-)03:40
rustumer: ktorrent when im in linux03:40
jdongumer: Ktorrent03:40
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bullgard4Xiro: That what you want is a major task. I do not want to guide you through. You need first to acquire knowledge. Otherwise it may become tedious.03:40
BoratHey guys, does anyone know the fastest quickest linux live cd so i can boot up on a computer @ school???03:40
rainwalkerHardly ever use torrents, but when I do I just use FrostWire or the included BitTorrent thing03:40
chuy_maxhi, I'm using dapper drake and installed apache2, mysql-server, php5, phpmyadmin, but I can't open php scripts, I already installed libapache2-mod-php5, do I need anything else?03:40
jdongumer: it's my little pet client (klient?) around here :)03:40
umerhow about something for ubuntu,, cause ktorrent is for kubuntu, no?03:41
jdongBorat: probably Puppy?03:41
jdongumer: not necessarily, it runs fine under GNOME03:41
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Boratjdong, not DSL?03:41
dtraskBorat, Puppy or Slax03:41
Hacim07rainwalker: yes I did but didn't see anything that would seem to do the trick.03:41
umerhmm, i might give that a go then03:41
jdongumer: to be honest even including KDE "baggage" it's lighter than the competition03:41
umerthanks guys03:41
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jdongBorat: DSL is fine too, along with all that dtrask listed03:41
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realshivacool03:41
umeryea, im used to utorrent on windows03:41
jdongBorat: all Knoppix based LiveCD's boot fairly fast, you don't want a *Buntu one though03:42
rainwalkerHacim07: Sorry, that's the only thing I know of03:42
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realshivaokay, it looks like it boots :-) so do someone know to configure grub working ? :-)03:42
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rainwalkeroh crap03:42
Boratjdong, will these be compatible with most of the ethernet cards on the old dells at school? take a wild guess lol, '03:42
rainwalkermy desktop isn't responding03:42
realshivasry for my bad english but im a german student :-)03:42
jdongBorat: without a doubt03:42
jordan_Urainwalker, Don't pull the plug too soon :)03:43
jdongBorat: my school was an all-dell shop and they use very common/high-quality NIC's in my experience03:43
rainwalkerokay, I can't right-click, and I can't click to highlight03:43
jdongBorat: especially the old ones. You'll likely see 3C509's03:43
chuy_maxhi, I'm using dapper drake and installed apache2, mysql-server, php5, phpmyadmin, but I can't open php scripts, I already installed libapache2-mod-php5, do I need anything else? (I already restarted apache2 server)03:43
jordan_Urainwalker, What can you do, if anything?03:43
jribHacim07: "Play audio CD discs when inserted" didn't do the trick?03:43
jdongBorat: I can't recall a version 2 Linux kernel that didn't support it :)03:43
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holycowchuy_max: that is a better question for #apache unfortunatley03:43
rainwalkerjordan_U: Um, I can do everything except stuff that requires clicking on the desktop...weird03:43
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rainwalkerhang on, I'm going to restart X03:44
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realshivalinking the php5_mod into modules_enabled03:44
Krysuschuy_max: unless it is your desktop install, why not use Ubuntu server03:44
Hacim07jrib:nope I uncheck it and it still didn't mount it.03:44
Krysusthats what I use and it works great out of the box03:44
jribHacim07: isn't that what you asked?03:44
kdomnHI all, does anybody know if it is possible to install ubuntu on the same NTFS partiton as vista, a dual boot on the same partition?03:44
holycowkdomn: no03:45
umerwhats everyones irc client of choice? im running off of gnome xchat03:45
Krysussame03:45
umeri dont like it particularly03:45
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kdomnnot even a little?03:45
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rainwalkerokay, that didn't work03:45
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meheviumer I use bitchx.03:45
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jdongkolobok: it's *possible* but not at all supported or automated03:45
rustumer: pidgin03:45
jdongerr kdomn rather03:45
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jordan_Ukdomn, Yes, with wubi03:46
jdongkdomn: I have successfully booted Ubuntu off ntfs-3g before, but it is not for the faint of heart03:46
jordan_U!wubi | kdomn03:46
ubotukdomn: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html03:46
rainwalkerjordan_U: I'm stuck, any ideas?03:46
rustumer: but names aren't clickable like mirc :(03:46
umerdarn03:46
jordan_Urainwalker, What happened when you restarted X ?03:46
Hacim07jrib:no I want it to mount the cd,instead of it just treats it as an audia cd(its actually and old pc game).it seams to me it used to ask me what I wanted do with it when I inserted it.03:46
DMCan you install virtualbox in 6.10?03:46
kdomnso for a sore someone completly new it wouldnt be recomended?03:46
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holycowkdomn: just forget the idea of installing linux on a proprietary fs03:46
holycowkdomn: do your self a favour and repartition and save your self the headache03:47
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sauvinWhat is a "backported module"?03:47
rainwalkerjordan_U: It logged me out and all that, like it's supposed to. Then when I logged back in, something weird happened: My wallpaper loaded before the splash screen even appeared03:47
holycowkdomn: better yet, if you value your vista install get either an external hd or a removable hd and install it clean03:47
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jordan_UDM, There are .debs on virtualbox's website, not sure if there is one for 6.10 but there is definitely one for 7.0403:47
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holycowkdomn: that will probably save you a lot of time and sanity03:47
kdomnim reinstalling vista anyway i was just hoping to no have to have 2 partitions03:47
jribHacim07: as far as I know, it still has to mount the cd to do anything with it.  Are you saying it gets mounted nowhere when you insert it?  Does the output of 'mount' confirm?03:48
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kdomnnot*03:48
guli-gulibye03:48
holycowkdomn: there is no reason to care about partitions outside of some sort of strange aesthetic reason03:48
meheviI am having some frustration with GDM.  I need to start a onscreen keyboard, and it will start, however, I have to start it with a mouse (with a top bottom left right gesture) This is not a problem, what is a problem is the fact that when using my stylus, the cursor keeps trying to jump over to the bottom right corner of the screen, giving me a 'flashing' cursor that is impossible to drag over the window boundaries.  On the other hand th03:48
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mehevithe gesture is recognized03:48
jdongkdomn: wubi won't save you from having two partitions (just one partition will be a large file on top of NTFS), and ntfs-3g root is just an insane experiment; please just partition :)03:48
jordan_Ukdomn, Wubi looks pretty easy, and is made for complete begginers, it's not Final yet though03:48
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rainwalkerjordan_U: and it's not a Beryl/Compiz Fusion/Metacity issue, because the same thing happens no matter what I'm using03:48
holycowkdomn: a good solid linux install infact employs multiple partitioning anyway, try it out its usefull03:48
jdongjordan_U: doesn't wubi just do a loopback over NTFS?03:48
kdomnok, well thank you for the info guys03:49
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jordan_Ujdong, Isn't that what kdomn wants?03:49
kdomnohh, one more thing, about how big a partition would ubuntu want>03:49
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holycowkdomn, at least a couple of gigs03:50
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jdongjordan_U: no, he wants both Vista and Ubuntu to grow dynamically in one partition03:50
jordan_Ukdomn, ~ 5 GIG recommended, much less is needed though03:50
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jdongjordan_U: I take it what he dislikes about partitioning is being forced to set a static boundary of free space03:50
kdomnok, so im good with say 20 for ubuntu to live on03:50
holycowsure03:50
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geniikdomn: I'd recommend minimum of about 3 Gb, any more than 4 is better. Also swap partition of ram size or more is good03:51
ZombineAnyone know what the option in grub is that puts up that annoying splash screen with the progress bar and whatnot?03:51
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kdomnyou got it jdong03:51
jordan_Ujdong, Ahh, I don't know if the image that wubi puts on the NTFS partition can be grown03:51
jdongkdomn: Ubuntu's base system, I cannot imagine growing beyond 5GB. I'd say 5GB plus how much data you want to store03:51
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rainwalkerZombine: isn't that usplash?03:51
kdomnok, good to know, thanks everyone03:51
holycowit's easy to install more than 5 gigs03:51
jdongkdomn: Ubuntu has no problems reading and writing to NTFS, so you can store all your space-consuming media/documents there03:51
holycowjust install games03:51
lockei try to give at least 10gb to ubuntu03:51
jordan_UZombine, "splash"03:51
holycow20 gigs would be hard to max, i don't think the entire repo actually takes up that much space but thats compressed03:52
jdongholycow: well, I was strictly speaking the Ubuntu OS....03:52
realshivak, the next problem, do someone know a tool that recovers my datas from a formated ext3 partition?03:52
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geniiActually the entire repo is over 30Gb03:52
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geniiAbout 35 actually03:52
jdongholycow: I've installed almost every "useful" package in the repos on one of my machines ,and it's about 8GB03:52
kdomnok, thanks everybody, i gotta go but i appreciate the help03:52
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holycowgames alone are 10 gigs last time i checked03:52
meheviuseful is questionable....03:52
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ZombineLike in the "root=UU" whatever thing/03:52
realshivado someone know a tool that recovers my datas from a formated ext3 partition?03:53
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vbabiyHello03:53
jordan_Urealshiva, What do you mean by "formated ext3 partition" did you format over it, or do you just have an ext3 partition which is somehow corrupted?03:53
holycowrealshiva: with ext3, once its gone its gone dude03:53
jdongrealshiva: umm, what happened to it? you reformatted it by accidnet?03:53
vbabiyCan some one look at this ssh out put and tell what is causing this delay. http://pastebin.com/mc2de8b503:53
realshivai formated it over03:53
jdongholycow: not entirely true; he could use a binary search-and-restore thing like PhotoRec03:53
jordan_Urealshiva, It's gone03:53
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realshivadamn :-(03:53
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jdongrealshiva: your last hope is PhotoRec; it scans the disk for file headers it recognizes03:53
jordan_Urealshiva, No way any FS can survive a format :(03:53
naliothibrahim25: you're welcome03:54
jdongrealshiva: don't expect it to work any miracles at restoring structure; just maybe getting an important file or two off03:54
mehevithe fs doest survive but the files do... unless you did a lo level formal03:54
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ibrahim25Hi everybody03:54
holycowjordan_U: actually most formats are non destructive03:54
realshivajdong i want one importent file back03:54
realshiva:-)03:54
mehevirealshiva are you using the partition now?03:54
holycowjordan_U: most formats just destroy the partition table not actually write out bit for bit a file system03:54
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realshivano its only formated by the ins03:55
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realshivataller and now its clean03:55
jordan_Urealshiva, What type of file? if it's text you may be able to grep for it03:55
holycowjordan_U: dd would destroy it but with ext3 it's harder to recover than say something like ntfs03:55
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jdongrealshiva: realshiva what kind of file?03:55
realshivaoutlook.psd :-)03:55
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Boratjdong, im going to go for slax killbill edition,03:55
jdongrealshiva: see if http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec recognizes that file03:55
realshivasry outlook.pst03:55
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jdongrealshiva: ".pst Outlook"03:56
scootnoob question here if you guys dont mind...03:56
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jdongrealshiva: it's on the supported file formats list; give PhotoRec a shot!03:56
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scootwhats a good ide/app for php devlopment in linux03:56
scoot?03:56
mehevirealshiva if you are using the partition you want to recover stop it now and unplug it so you arent running off of it03:56
superNoob71is there a way to seach for a channel on here?03:56
jdong(given that .pst's are usually huge and likely fragmented, IMO it's probably a lost cause)03:56
holycowScottLij: quanta+03:56
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Ashfire908would "command > file | another command" pipe and save to a file?03:56
localgod11what means: requested entity already in use?03:56
Davy_Jones!pastebin > Davy_Jones03:56
rustscoot: eclipse was the last one I used but it was bloated03:56
jdongAshfire908: no03:56
jdongAshfire908: command > file would return nothing left over to "pipe"03:57
jdongAshfire908: you want tee.03:57
scootthanks rust.. i could give it a shot03:57
rainwalkerjordan_U: I created a new user to see if the same thing happened, and it doesn't, so I know it's my fault03:57
jdongAshfire908: "command | tee file | another command"03:57
Boratdtrask, i went for slax kill bill03:57
Ashfire908jdong, thanks03:57
scootdreamweaver is nice for windows, it manages my stylesheets for me and will auto-ftp to my site to test03:57
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scootwill eclipse do stuff like that?03:57
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holycowscoot: you can't use eclipse for php dev03:58
holycowthe modules for it are immature03:58
scootoh okay03:58
ToddEDMhey guys, i have downloaded an DVD .iso .... what program would be best to burn it to disc03:58
holycowtry it and see for your self if you like it03:58
meheviyou're immature.. *pout*03:58
scooti figured there would at least be a plugin for syntax highlighting03:58
scootokay03:58
scoottx guys03:58
holycowToddEDM: right click and select burn to disc03:58
scootill prob stick with notepad++  :P03:58
rust:)03:58
holycowscoot: why?03:58
holycowi told you to try quanta+03:59
ToddEDMwow ok holycow03:59
holycowits one of the most powerfull php dev environments03:59
scootoh you called me scottljii03:59
ToddEDMthanks dood03:59
|Lord_Zoo|hello03:59
scooti didnt know u were talking to me03:59
scoothah03:59
scootokay ill check that out03:59
scootthanks!03:59
jdongscoot: some people like bluefish too, though IMO it's not as good as quanta+ in the dreamweaver-ish way03:59
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meheviI am having some frustration with GDM.  I need to start a onscreen keyboard, and it will start, however, I have to start it with a mouse (with a top bottom left right gesture) This is not a problem, what is a problem is the fact that when using my stylus, the cursor keeps trying to jump over to the bottom right corner of the screen, giving me a 'flashing' cursor that is impossible to drag over the window boundaries.  On the other hand th03:59
scootexcellent03:59
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mehevithe gesture is recognized04:00
ibrahim25hi I want to know if ubuntu run in a intel D975xbx2 motherboard any help??04:00
scootthank you jdong04:00
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jdongsure thing, scoot04:00
Evanlecokay lets say i wanted to use a file thats on another linux (ext3) partition, would i be able to mount that file (bind?) it to my home dir so permissions would work correctly? or would i have to copy the file over and chmod or chroot or something with it....04:00
jordan_Urainwalker, What do you have in your session startup?04:00
holycowmehevi: your touchscreen is misconfigured04:00
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holycowmehevi: you will need to google how to properly configure and calibrate your touchscreen for either your tablet or umpc04:00
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ToddEDMOMG, holycow ... thanks man thats the best... i love learning stuff about Ubuntu like that04:01
holycowmehevi: basically x is interpreting your stylus touch as something else04:01
meheviholycow it is only misconfigured in GDM, however, once I run the onscreen keyboard, the cursor tracking is smooth and perfect.04:01
ToddEDMEEEEEasy04:01
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localgod11what does SERVER ERROR REQUESTED ENITITY ALREADY IN USE MEAN?04:02
meheviI just spent the last hour getting everything working with the touchscreen :p linux wacom project to the rescue04:02
holycowmehevi: ahhh ... you have a onscreen kb setup for gdm?  mehevi i'm not going to be any help i've never done that04:02
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jdongToddEDM: isn't it rewarding when something is that easy and built-in? :)04:02
jordan_Ulocalgod11, Where are you getting that error?04:02
holycowlocalgod11: you will find the answer faster if you google it, no one here seems to know appearently04:02
ToddEDMjdong: yeah totally04:02
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jdongjordan_U: sounds like an avivo driver error04:02
localgod11x windows fails to load04:02
mehevilocalgod11 is x already running?  try ctrl+alt+f7 to check04:03
jdonglocalgod11: ask over at phoronix.com's forums -- they seem to have the best ATI related support expertise04:03
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bullgard4What are the most often used frontends for a SQL database?04:03
localgod11its not ati its nvidia04:03
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realshivabullgard4 mssql or mysql ?04:03
realshivaphpmyadmin04:03
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jdonglocalgod11: did you try to set up dual-display, by any chance?04:04
kitchebullgard4: depends on the database mysql or pgsql or a QT program if you know how to program04:04
bullgard4realshiva: mysql04:04
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rainwalkerjordan_U: At session startup, I have AWN, beagle search tool, beryl manager, network manager, power manager, restriced drivers manager, update notifier, and volume manager04:04
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jdongbullgard4: phpmyadmin seems to be a favorite04:05
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realshivabullgard4 if there is running a webserver i would prefer phpmyadmin.04:05
rainwalkerI haven't changed my startup programs before/after this started happening04:05
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bullgard4jdong, realshiva: I will enquire about phpmyadmin. Thank you for hinting me.04:06
rainwalkerAugghh, are the forums loading for anyone?04:06
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ibrahim25hi04:06
masterlokihey everytime I after I login to ubuntu I get this message how can I fix this  our $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect04:06
masterlokipermissions and is being ignored.04:06
masterlokiThis prevents the default session04:06
masterlokiand language from being saved.04:06
masterlokiFile sould be owned by user and have04:06
masterloki644 permissions.04:06
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masterlokidose anyone have a idea04:06
pike_masterloki: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~04:06
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pike_masterloki: or instead of ~ /home/yourusername04:07
localgod11jdong: yep04:07
holycowif that doesn't work recreate your account and login to that instead04:07
xp_prg2what is the package for libtheora?04:07
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holycowxp_prg2: apt-cache search libtheora04:07
jdonglocalgod11: it is most likely because you specified the same Monitor or other device keyword in both screen declarations04:07
geniimasterloki: Also sudo chmod 644 .dmrc04:07
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pike_xp_prg2: libtheora0 i think04:08
localgod11ok how do i fix that04:08
Byronany reason my window title bars would disapear when running beryl?04:08
AnaxiteHi. Would this be the right place to ask a question regarding a slightly convoluted ubuntu problem?04:08
realshivaByan a feature ? :-)04:08
IdleOnexp_prg2: libtheora004:08
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Byronis it just a setting?04:08
rainwalkerBryon: ooh, that happens to a lot of people, there's lots of reasons it could happen04:08
Byroni cant find a way to turn it off...04:09
Byronaw04:09
IdleOnexp_prg2: apt-cache search libtheora will give you 4 packages take a look atwhat you need04:09
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rainwalkerof course, I'm saying that because I've seen a lot of threads about it, so I don't know how to fix it04:09
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Byronok thanks04:09
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rainwalkerBryon: try #ubuntu-effects04:09
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RkyRaccoon55burning audio cd's stopped working for some reason04:09
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maddog39does anyone know whats going on with launchpad04:10
realshivado someone got old ls120 disk ? witch he would spend me ?04:10
maddog39its bloody slow04:10
Colrodoes virtualbox have to be run as root?04:10
ibrahim25can I instal ubuntu if I have a intel D975xbx2 mainboard??04:10
maddog39ibrahim25, yes04:10
unlivingdeadDoes anyone know the solution to the Dell Inspiron 8200 Samsung UXGA (1600x1200) Display Corruption problem?04:10
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bullgard4realshiva: Synaptic says that "phpMyAdmin is intended to handle the administration of MySQL over the WWW." But my problem is not WWW-related. Can you tell me what frontend people are using mostly for handling a non-WWW related MySQL database?04:10
unlivingdeadhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/33075 theres the launchpad url for the bug, but it seems to be down. the other solutions are old and outdated.04:11
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rainwalkermaddog39: the forums are being slow too...04:11
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Colrodoes virtualbox have to be run as root?04:11
pike_Colro: if you run it the first time with sudo it may not sure04:11
realshivabullgard4 some years ago, there was a programm called mysql-dump04:11
ibrahim25thanks and the multi core works in core2 quad processor ???04:11
jdongibrahim25: yes04:11
unlivingdeadibrahim25: yes.04:11
realshivabullgard4 also try navicat04:12
localgod11jdong: ideas how to fix it?04:12
ibrahim25exelent thank you!!!:)04:12
jdongibrahim25: Ubuntu even includes the CPU groups optimization patch, which provides best performance on multiple core, shared-cache CPU's04:12
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Byronarg forums taking forever to load04:12
jdongByron: I am investigating04:13
unlivingdeadDoes anyone know the solution to the Dell Inspiron 8200 Samsung UXGA (1600x1200) Display Corruption problem? Here is the launchpad link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/33075 All of the solutions on the page are non-working.04:13
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ibrahim25great thanks I am about to buy that hardward and want to be sure that it works wiht Ubuntu Thanks again04:13
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unlivingdeadibrahim25: no problem.04:13
holycowibrahim25: i would also google it to make sure04:13
jribColro: no, just make sure your user is in the "vboxusers" group04:14
holycowbecause it worked for one person, that doesn't always replicate out04:14
jdongByron: seems to be a problem across all canonical domains04:14
unlivingdeadjdong: ddos?04:14
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rainwalkerso I'm not the only one who's having trouble with the forums?04:14
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unlivingdeadrainwalker: no.04:14
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rainwalkerarg...04:15
ibrahim25I google it but I just found a forum that someone is having problem with the SATA hardrive any ideas???04:15
bullgard4realshiva: Synaptic does not offer neither mysql-dump nor navicat. What is the reason for that?04:15
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AnaxiteI'm stuck at the loading screen with a blank progress bar and the Caps and Scroll Lock keys blinking after messing with disk UUID's... can someone help me out?04:15
Colrowhat's the command to list devices?04:15
jdongunlivingdead: not necessarily; last time it was just hardware failure04:15
scguy318Anaxite: can you remove the quiet splash boot parameters? I believe you press e, then remove those two entries at the GRUB menu?04:15
rainwalkerColro: lspci04:16
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realshivabullgard4 sry, that all are windows programms ^^04:16
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unlivingdeadjdong: k04:16
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Anaxitescguy318: Ok, I'll do that.04:16
bullgard4realshiva: Ah, yes, I see.04:16
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ibrahim25Does SATA hard drives work with ubuntu???04:17
h|barbobotyes.04:17
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scguy318ibrahim25: they probably should, try it04:17
Anaxiteibrahim25: they did with the computer next to me, anyhow. And my computer downstairs04:18
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jordan_Uibrahim25, of course04:18
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unlivingdeadDoes anyone know the solution to the Dell Inspiron 8200 Samsung UXGA (1600x1200) Display Corruption problem? Here is the launchpad link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/33075 All of the solutions on the page are non-working.04:18
ibrahim25ok thanks I will try it I just to make sure before buying it04:18
DMWhen i start virtualbox i get "you are not a member of vboxusers"04:19
scguy318DM: you have to add your account to the vboxusers group04:19
holycowDM: try #virtualbox04:19
unlivingdeadDM: you should probably add your user to the vbox users group..04:19
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DMunlivingdead how would i do that04:19
holycow... try that channel as well i mean04:19
jordan_Uunlivingdead, Have you tested the latest Gutsy Release Candidate?04:19
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unlivingdeadjordan_U: yes, thats what im running.04:19
rainwalkerJordan_U: I have04:19
unlivingdeadDM: you can go to system > administration > users and i beleive you can add it04:20
DMunlivingdead nm got it04:20
Anaxitescguy318: I'll get back to you about the errors when the computer gets past the BIOS screen...04:20
scguy318DM: sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers <youruser>04:20
unlivingdeadDM: im no proficient ubuntu user though.04:20
scguy318Anaxite: ok04:20
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chuy_maxis it safe to grab a linux image from dapper drake repository, and install it to my feisty fawn ubuntu?04:21
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jdongchuy_max: most likely not04:21
unlivingdeadjordan_U: the display corruption problem only manifests when using the nvidia-glx-xxxx driver, and i would love to use display effects/play games04:21
chuy_maxI need that old linux kernel (a module doesn't work in the latest kernel from feisty)04:21
scguy318chuy_max: probably not04:21
realshivai want to let cups execute a shell command befor its start printing, do someone know how to do that ?04:21
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xp_prg2I need the development files for libtheora or my cinelerra won compile right, what package contains that?04:21
jordan_Uchuy_max, No04:21
gentoonSo I upgraded to Gusty (I think) and I still have no pidgin?04:22
unlivingdeadjordan_U: partially because its reporting a different EDID than what the lcd is capable of displaying, if i could figure out how to work Phoenix EDID editor, i could probably fix my problem.04:22
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pike_xp_prg2: libtheora-dev   'apt-cache search theora' to see04:22
tech0007xp_prg2...apt-cache search libtheora04:22
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jordan_Uchuy_max, To clarify it probably isn't "dangerous" but it probably won't work correctly either04:22
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scguy318unlivingdead: why not just stick a modeline in xorg.conf or something I guess?04:22
xp_prg2thanks!04:23
gentoonAnyone?04:23
tonyyarussoAnaxite: what sort of "messing with disk UUIDs"?04:23
scguy318gentoon: if you dont see it, install the pidgin package04:23
scguy318gentoon: it should be there04:23
orionri just install ubuntu server edition and for some reason its not letting me run anything sudo it says that i am not in the sudoers file04:23
jordan_Ugentoon, How did you upgrade?04:23
Evanlecquestion: how do i disable gdm ?04:23
unlivingdeadscguy318: how would i go about doing that?04:23
jordan_U!boot | Evanlec04:23
ubotuEvanlec: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto04:23
chuy_maxjordan_U what if I do that apt-get source thing to get that old linux kernel from dapper repository, and then I build it in feisty, or can you give me some suggestion?04:23
scguy318Evanlec: stop it? sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop04:23
Evanlecjordan_U, thx04:23
pike_orionr: are you the oringal user created during install?04:23
Evanlecscguy318, i dont want it to start when i bootup04:24
orionrpike_: yes04:24
scguy318unlivingdead: you would edit xorg.conf, and in I think the Monitor section you would add a line that looks like this04:24
scguy318unlivingdead: Modeline "1280x1024"  135.00  1280 1296 1440 1688  1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync04:24
Anaxitetonyyarusso: I was moving partitions around and in the process, the partition with the / mount point changed UUID. So I went and changed it in /etc/fstab and then, when Ubuntu wouldn't start up, I changed it in grub's menu.lst. And that's when it went really wrong.04:24
jordan_Uchuy_max, That is more likely to work, you would also have to compile any kernel modules. Why do you want / need a Dapper kernel?04:24
pike_orionr: odd.. you can boot into recover and add yourself to admin group04:24
scguy318unlivingdead: its worth a shot04:24
tech0007gentoon 'apt-cache search pidgin'04:24
geniigentoon: I am on gutsy with no outside repos and pidgen certainly appears as an installation candidate04:24
unlivingdeadscguy318: right, so how do i get one that is my lcd's?04:24
scguy318unlivingdead: i dunno about your monitor but04:24
tonyyarusso!grub | Anaxite04:25
ubotuAnaxite: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:25
rainwalkerAugh, the foums need to load...like, NOW04:25
holycowAnaxite: there are 4 places wher eyou haveto check settings:04:25
orionrpike_: do you know what the command to do that is after i boot into recovery?04:25
tonyyarussoAnaxite: Try the "Recovering after Windows" instructions and see what happens.04:25
scguy318unlivingdead: you could use the XFree86 modeline generator, google for it, and I believe in Xorg.0.log it reads out the EDID information04:25
Anaxitetonyyarusso: well, now the computer isn't getting past the BIOS startup screen, even04:25
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tech0007how do i know if i have any open ports on my ubuntu box?04:25
scguy318tech0007: you dont04:25
tonyyarussoAnaxite: can it boot a CD-ROM?04:25
unlivingdeadscguy318: ive tried that, but i dont know where to get the information it asks for04:25
chuy_maxjordan_U, I have a touch screen monitor with old modules (an elo touch screen monitor, model 1939L), but they are the latest in elo website (maybe because 6.06 is LTS)04:25
scguy318tech0007: a default install shouldn't have one04:25
realshivatech0007 nmap -sS 127.0.0.104:25
scguy318realshiva: not really04:25
tonyyarussotech0007: you could use a tool called nmap to see04:25
Anaxitetonyyarusso: no, doesn't start booting any device.04:25
gentoongenii, well it says its not there mayb e I blew my gusty upgrade how can I check?04:25
tonyyarussoAnaxite: ooof.04:26
chuy_maxjordan_U so monitor's module doesn't load in latest kernel from feisty04:26
holycow1. fstab 2. /boot/grub/menu.lst ... paths  3. /boot/grub/menu.lst ... kopt setting has to point to the right place 4. /boot/grub/device.map04:26
scguy318realshiva: doing that will show 631 as open, but since its on the lo interface, not really accessible from the outside ;004:26
pike_orionr: usermod -a -G admin yourusername  i think or just nano /etc/group  and add your name to the and of admin line04:26
AnaxiteI think I really just did something really really stupid.04:26
scguy318;)04:26
tech0007realshiva/tonyyrarusso..will try that04:26
tonyyarussoAnaxite: can you enter BIOS setup/04:26
holycowthat post about grub is really not terribly usefull for telling the system how to boot from a new partition space04:26
Anaxitetonyyarusso: Nope. Not even.04:26
pike_orionr: im not on ubuntu atm i cant remember if its adm or admin group04:26
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gentoon!gusty04:26
ubotuIt is spelt !guTSy :)04:26
scguy318unlivingdead: probably you would look up your LCD monitor specs04:26
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gentoon!Gutsy04:26
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information04:26
tonyyarussoAnaxite: .... I doubt it's your fault then, frankly.  Has the case been opened for any reason?04:26
chuy_maxso, any suggestion jordan_U ?04:27
geniigentoon: lsb_release -a04:27
vasuviIs there any way to find out what interrupts are being used by which device?04:27
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jordan_Uchuy_max, Then you want to grab the binary kernel image ( recompiling won't work unless they provide the source for the module ) and then use apt-get source --compile for all the rest of your modules04:27
pike_orionr: you might also temporarily enable root account with a 'passwd root' until you have sudo sorted out. you can 'passwd -l root' to deactivate it04:27
tech0007tonyyarusso...so nmap is not installed by default?04:27
realshivascguy318 :-) step by step i will be brainy04:27
geniigentoon: That will tell you if you are on 7.10 or 7.04 etc04:27
realshivatech0007 thats correct04:27
gentoonFeisty :(04:27
tonyyarussotech0007: don't think so04:27
scguy318tech0007: nope04:27
gentoonwhat did I do wrong?04:27
Anaxitetonyyarusso: Nope... this only happened after the panic, for some reason. I had to give it a hard power reset. I'll see if I can really power it down... and I'll read the grub documentation in the meantime.04:27
scguy318gentoon: then no Pidgin there ;)04:27
unlivingdeadscguy318: where might i find specs on my lcd? google yeilds nothing.04:27
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orionrpike_ will it let me do that with a non sudo account?04:27
scguy318gentoon: you may use a third-party repo like I am or upgrade04:28
gentoonscguy318, I did what it said what happened?04:28
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scguy318gentoon: did what?04:28
scguy318unlivingdead: wut monitor04:28
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unlivingdeadscguy318: i have a samsung sec3255 uxga lcd, its internal fyil; in my laptop.04:28
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unlivingdeadfyi*04:28
tonyyarussoAnaxite: If you really can't get at the BIOS setup screen (which should be possible with no hard drive or other device even attached), it's lower level than grub and the operating system, so that particular bit confuses me.04:28
geniigentoon: there is a deb file at getdeb website of pidgen for feisty. this is what i used prior to upgrading04:28
gentoonWhat the !Gutsy site said too?04:28
Evanlecis hdparm okay to enable in boot-up manager ?04:28
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scguy318gentoon: and what did you do?04:29
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gentoongenii, do I have to uninstall Gaim to load it?04:29
iloveyexcuse me how to use mldonkey04:29
jordan_Uchuy_max, Where is the page that has the module?04:29
pike_orionr: in recovery it should.04:29
jdongEvanlec: depends on what you've done with hdparm.conf!04:29
IndyGunFreakgenii gentoon : the version of pidgin on getdeb.net has a fairly serious security flaw relating to MSN.04:29
holycowgenii: it might be easier to wait for gutsy, its out soon04:29
geniigentoon: It's a good idea04:29
scguy318gentoon: you dont appear to be using Gutsy, so trying to install Pidgin using Feisty repos is pointless :P04:29
Evanlecjdong, oh, well i want to optimize performance like it says ;p04:29
gentoonscguy318, it had me type one line, it downloaded all this stuff installed it the n retarted04:29
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gentoonrestarted04:29
unlivingdeadscguy318: i have a samsung sec3255 uxga lcd, its internal fyi; in my laptop.04:29
geniigentoon: What IndyGunFreak and holycow say might be advisable04:30
scguy318unlivingdead: hmm, cant find info on it :(04:30
chuy_maxjordan_U -> http://www.elotouch.com/Support/Downloads/dnld.asp (they don't provide the source)04:30
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jordan_Ugentoon, What did you do to upgrade to Gutsy? Exactly ( It should have been just one command )04:30
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IndyGunFreakgenii: compile the version on pidgin.im to be truthful.. its in bold print right on their homepage.. http://www.pidgin.im04:30
unlivingdeadscguy318: told you, its fixable under windows using modified drivers, but i dont know how to modify my linux drivers04:30
jdongEvanlec: in general, the default IDE/SATA parameters are already optimal with modern distributions04:30
gentoonjordan_U, I would need to see the site to show ya what command I typed04:30
Evanlecjdong, i c...04:30
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jdongEvanlec: usually messing with hdparm/sdparm won't yield any benefits, and a slightly wrong flag can easily trash a drive too04:31
scguy318unlivingdead: mm, dunno about your issue :(04:31
gentoon!Gutsy04:31
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information04:31
jdongEvanlec: unless you are experiencing horrifically/unusually slow disk performance, I would not touch hdparm04:31
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unlivingdeadscguy318: yeah, and nobody on the forum could help either :(04:31
rainwalkerforums are back up!04:31
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bullgard4How to call the program phpMyAdmin? "detlef@MD97600:~$ phpmyadmin; bash: phpmyadmin: command not found"04:31
IndyGunFreakpidgin is not hard to compile.04:31
pike_Evanlec: course first thing i normally do after install is play with hdparm04:31
Evanlecjdong, okay, what would u suggest to optimize boot performance then?04:31
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unlivingdeadscguy318: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/33075 thats the bug, but i dont know an up-to-date solution04:31
Evanlecpike_, lol04:31
holycowEvanlec: what?04:31
geniiIndyGunFreak: Bookmarked, thanks. I'm actually not very worried about MSN issues since I mostly use ICQ and Jabber anyhow04:31
rolandd bullgard4 phpmyadmin is called from the webbrowser04:31
scguy318IndyGunFreak: at the cost of not being able to manage it with APT :P04:32
jdongEvanlec: how long does it currently take to boot up?04:32
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IndyGunFreakscguy318: now this is true..04:32
AnaxiteWhee, the computer's getting past the BIOS.04:32
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Evanlecjdong, not that long but....i want it faster! ;p04:32
unlivingdeadscguy318: none of the solutions provided on the page work.04:32
lewis1711Hello all. so I downloaded ubuntu and xubuntu, and that was all working fine. then I downloaded kubuntu, and ever since switching to that all my desktop envrionments have been stuck on 640x480 screen resolutions, where as before I could easily change the screen resolution. my video card driver is still enabled. anyone have any idea what's hapenning?04:32
IndyGunFreakscguy318: but once youc ompile one version, compiling the update takes all of about 5min04:32
emmajaneI need to compile a kernel module (but not hte kernel itself), what packages do I need for that?04:32
chuy_maxjordan_U, I want to use feisty because I want to use Qt version 4.2, but my touch screen doesn't work in feisty, so I use dapper, but my Qt code doesn't compile =( (dapper has Qt 4.1), maybe I can use feisty repositories in dapper to download Qt 4.2, and then put back dapper repositories?04:32
tech0007realshiva....nmap output '631/tcp open  ipp04:32
tech0007902/tcp open  iss-realsecure-sensor04:32
jdongEvanlec: I'm a bootup freak around here; give me a rough estimate in seconds04:32
thinman1189I don't mean to bother anyone but the ubuntu site and forums won't load for me. is it just me or is anyone else having this issue?04:32
tech0007realshiva...is this ok? is my box secure?04:32
scguy318tech0007: its not open to the outside world probably tho ;)04:32
Twilight-Zoneanyone here have any experience with Remastering Ubuntu with Reconstructor04:32
Anaxitethinman1189: not just you04:32
scguy318tech0007: those ports usually listen on lo so04:32
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gentoonSomeone in here gave me a link to page on how to update from fiesty... and I did what it said and restarted but I am still on feisty?04:33
IndyGunFreakthinman1189: i think they just came back up, but they were down a while.04:33
unlivingdeadlewis1711: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg it should reconfigure your xorg.conf04:33
scguy318thinman1189: everyone has the prob04:33
rolanddIs there a Ubuntu flavour that can be run from USB stick?04:33
IndyGunFreak!upgrade | gentoon04:33
holycowEvanlec: you are going to haveto wait for static ram to be invented for it to get faster04:33
ubotugentoon: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes04:33
Evanlecjdong, well i just installed gutsy (i know wrong channel) 64-bit, mm i wanna say it takes about 2-3 mins?04:33
lewis1711thanks unlivingdead, I'll give it a try04:33
Evanlecjdong, actually probly less04:33
rainwalkerisn't that networkmanager applet supposed to display connetion strenghth?04:33
thinman1189anaxite , indygunfreak , scguy318 : ok, thanks. got really worried for a minute, lol.04:33
jdongEvanlec: that's unusually long....04:33
jdong(that's what she said)04:33
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Evanlecjdong, it probly only takes about 1minute04:33
IndyGunFreakthinman1189: lol04:33
holycowEvanlec: windows takes longer to boot up, they just trick the user into thinking its done  by throwing up the desktop and continuin the boot process for minutes afterwards in the background04:33
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unlivingdeadscguy318: found an up to date solution as of yet?04:33
geniiemmajane: package kernel-package04:33
holycowyou pretty much have the fastest booting os on a pc04:33
Colrohow do i add my user to the vboxusers group?04:34
emmajanethanks :)04:34
jdongEvanlec: have you fooled around with Readahead at all?04:34
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scguy318Colro: sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers usernamehere04:34
Evanlecjdong, no actually, thats installed by default with gutsy correct?04:34
unlivingdeadholycow: are you sure? my menuet boots up in 2 seconds. then again, its built in asm.04:34
darkcrabanyone know why firefox would every so often crash on me?04:34
scguy318unlivingdead: unfortunately no :(04:34
jdongEvanlec: yes but it can be tuned and exploited :) Let me pull up two of my HOWTO's04:34
holycowunlivingdead: congratulations you discovered flash04:34
geniiemmajane: You may also want linux-headers for specif kernel you have04:34
jdongEvanlec: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254263 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56565104:34
unlivingdeadholycow: its sexy.04:34
scguy318unlivingdead: as you said, its probably an EDID issue, the man page on xorg.conf describes the Modeline parameter04:34
jdongEvanlec: should be able to shave a significant amount of boot time with those two04:35
Evanlecjdong, cool thx04:35
gentoonIndyGunFreak, thanks but no info for Gutsy there04:35
unlivingdeadscguy318: thanks, is there any way i can make my xorg.conf ignore the edid? none of the solutions on the page work04:35
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thinman1189I'm trying to help my mom's friend switch to ubuntu on her vaio laptop. does anyone know if there are any articles that are vaio specific?04:35
IndyGunFreakgentoon: should be the same basic concept though04:35
darkcrabanybody04:35
jordan_Uchuy_max, Are you sure you want to have to do this with every new ubuntu release? Just realize that it will get harder and harder to keep up to date and use a dapper kernel, and you don't know if elo will ever release new drivers04:35
emmajanegenii: hmm. I'm still getting the error message Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/source'04:35
KriZeany howtos around to explain what to do when Gutsy simply stops detecting wifi?04:35
Evanlecjdong, my friend is comin over tonight and he's a windows user, i want to impress him with some things, mainly boot up speed and compiz...04:35
emmajanemake: *** [compatible/kversion]  Error 104:35
scguy318!pastebin04:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:35
lewis1711unlivingdead, I gave that a try and was told that my config.dat file was looked by another process. this is the only session I have running. any ideas?04:35
tech0007scguy318...why is it that when i do ifconfig, eth0 is 192.168.x.x...but when i use whatismyip.com, it says 121.x.x.x...w/c one is it? i dont have router/hub.04:35
gentoonIndyGunFreak, no thats not how I did it there was a page that showed the exact command to type04:36
scguy318tech0007: 192.168.x.x is your private, 121.x.x.x is public, you're probably connected on a network with masquerading?04:36
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lewis1711on the plus side, with 640x480 I am able to sit far away from the computer;)04:36
unlivingdeadlewis1711: try killing gdm first, then try04:36
scguy318thinman1189: not really, but04:36
jordan_Ugentoon, Was it something like: gksu "update-manager -d"04:36
jordan_U?04:36
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scguy318thinman1189: the LiveCD is there to see if you have any specific hardware issues that we can address04:36
jdongEvanlec: my Macbook boots to a full desktop in a hair over 25s using those two HOWTO's :)04:37
unlivingdeadwhat version of xorg does 7.10 use?04:37
lewis1711just in system monitor unliving dead?04:37
scguy318jordan_U: i dont think you need gksu, at least according to the Gutsy release notes04:37
tech0007scguy318...so should i run nmap -sS 121.x.x.x?04:37
Evanlecjdong, smokin!04:37
gentoonjordan_U, Yep that was it04:37
jdongEvanlec: freshly installed Gutsy04:37
demon_sporkhow do I gzip my Ubuntu install and then restore it to a different partition?04:37
demon_sporklater04:37
scguy318tech0007: no04:37
chuy_maxjordan_U, well, I would like to know how to make drivers to create my own, but I don't know how to yet, so I have no choice at this point but use that closed source module :(04:37
scguy318tech0007: you're fine, you have no open services04:37
Evanlecjdong, u think the profile tip is a good one?04:37
scguy318tech0007: if you want to test open ports from outside, use ShieldsUp!04:37
jdongEvanlec: on a fresh install i would've bother04:37
thinman1189scguy318: well i'm mainly just worried about the video driver and the network driver. i'm looking at the intel page and the last tested for that chipset is hoary.04:37
unlivingdeadwhat version of xorg does 7.10 use?04:37
jdongEvanlec: the first tip is most benefitial if you've modified your system, or upgraded your kernel, since the initial install04:37
jdongEvanlec: by modified your system, I mean add more things to the bootup sequence04:38
jordan_Uscguy318, good to know, I was just trying to see if he had used update-manager, not suggesting how it should be done04:38
scguy318thinman1189: your video and driver should be veeery good, Intel04:38
Evanlecjdong, i did prett much just fresh install...04:38
jdongEvanlec: the second tip, however, works WONDERS on a stock system04:38
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lewis1711unlivingdead, I have no idea where gdm is or how to kill it. or what it is come to think of it;)04:38
Evanlecjdong, was actually in the process of removing things from boot-up manager04:38
scguy318unlivingdead: think 7.3?04:38
jdongEvanlec: after I input my password to GDM, I get a full ready GNOME desktop in under 5 seconds04:38
tech0007scguy318...ok, will try that...im planning to share my internet connection w/ an xp box. thru crossover cable, i found a useful article, i jst want to be sure that i'm ready04:38
jordan_Ugentoon, And did you see screens showing Gutsy release notes, downloading packages and whatnot?04:38
unlivingdeadlewis1711: hit control+alt+f1 and login, then type sudo killall gdm and then do the dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg then restart gdm by typing sudo gdm04:39
gentoonjordan_U, I did then it was done and told me to restart and I did04:39
jdongunlivingdead: ahem, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop :)04:39
emmajanegenii: already had the linux-headers package installed.04:39
gentoonThen I am back on feisty04:39
unlivingdeadjdong: well, my solution was the only one i know of :D04:39
jdongunlivingdead: and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start04:39
lewis1711right, thanks unlivingdead, will do.04:39
scguy318unlinvingdead: dont really have to kill gdm when u reconfigure04:39
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scguy318unlinvingdead: just Ctrl-Alt-Backspace after configuring04:39
jdongunlivingdead: that's fine; just informing you the right way to do it in the future04:39
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unlivingdeadjdong: have my children04:39
Anaxitetonyyarusso: I finally got it to boot in verbose mode04:39
jordan_Ugentoon, What is the output of "lsb_release -a" ?04:39
jdongunlivingdead: rofl, we'll see about that ;-)04:39
tonyyarussoAnaxite: yay04:39
gentoonit says Feisty04:40
gentoonjordan_U, it says feisty04:40
unlivingdeadjdong: no you wont, not unless you can fix my display corruption problem :D04:40
dimeotaneany recommended packages for legacy machines?04:40
thinman1189scguy318: well it looks like the wireless card is perfect but i'm still worried about the video card. last tested under hoary and no 3d support then. do you know anywhere else i could look for info on the intel drivers other than the wiki?04:40
genii!info X gutsy04:40
ubotuPackage x does not exist in gutsy04:40
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genii!info xorg gutsy04:40
ubotuxorg: X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.2-5ubuntu13 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB04:40
unlivingdead7.204:40
jdongunlivingdead: if you have nvidia and dual core, I'm running away right now....04:40
unlivingdeadah.04:40
holycowthinman1189: wait for gutsy to be released if you can, then download the live cd.  that should be a nice quick test04:40
jordan_Ugentoon, Try running update-manager again ( let me get you the right command, the one I daid before might not have been )04:40
scguy318thinman1189: test it yourself with LiveCD, then edit wiki :)04:40
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unlivingdeadjdong: well, thats on my windows gaming desktop :D but no, its on my inspiron 8200 with the samsung uxga04:41
Anaxite/init: /init: 148: Syntax error: 0xe38244c4-039f-4197-b40d-557cf27ac4ab04:41
Anaxite[timestamp] Kernel panic - not syncing! Attempted to kill init!04:41
gentoonjordan_U, okay04:41
holycowthinman1189: oh you are ABOUT to buy the part? maybe not a usefull suggestion then04:41
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unlivingdeadjdong: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/3307504:41
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scguy318Anaxite: looks like what it looks like, a type in your fstab I presume?04:41
domanyone here have bugzilla installed?04:41
scguy318Anaxite: typo04:41
unlivingdeadjdong: the solutions provided do not work, im looking for a new one for gutsy04:41
AnaxiteIf that's it, I'm gonna cry... ok, yeah. I'll try fixing it :P04:41
scguy318dom: not me, and I'm not sure if Bugzilla is something to be installed04:42
domscguy: why not?04:42
jordan_Ugentoon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades run "update-manager -d" ( gksu is not needed )04:42
Byronwhats the command to show the gnome desktop?04:42
scguy318dom: well, I usually work with Bugzilla via HTTP frontend, but I'm guessing you want to make your own? :P04:42
thinman1189scguy318 , holycow: i plan on switching her to 7.10 when it comes out but i want to make sure it will be ok before i do. her windows crashed and i can barely get in and she doesn't have the disks so i was going to switch her and her family to ubuntu. i'm just making sure it will work before i totally toast the drive. and i don't know how to test with the livecd.04:42
gentoonjordan_U, ya that is what I did :(04:42
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tech0007scguy318....out of curiousity i ran nmap on my public ip. it showed a lot of open ports like ssh, zebrasrv, ripd, ospfd, bgpd...that's not from my box? i'm googling up shieldsup.04:42
scguy318thinman1189: just boot it up04:42
jdongunlivingdead: hmm, I'm not sure, too hardware specific for me to have a clue :)04:42
dimeotanewhats better openbox or icewm?04:42
scguy318thinman1189: its called a LiveCD because a Ubuntu desktop session will run off the LiveCD04:43
jdongtech0007: do you have a router or something?04:43
unlivingdeadjdong: :( no children for you04:43
Absenthhow do I go about changing the value in /sys/devices/system/cpu/sched_mc_power_savings from 0 to 104:43
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holycowdimeotane: the one that  you like best?04:43
jordan_UByron, Literally the desktop, or to start a gnome session ?04:43
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jdongAbsenth: in /etc/rc.local before "exit 0", add "echo 1 > /sys/devices......savings"04:43
smultronCSS opacity doesn't work with the IEs4Linux project... even with the special { filter: alpha(opacity=X); } thing. any ideas?04:43
Absenthjdong: thank you.04:43
tech0007jdong....nope04:43
thinman1189scguy318 yeah i know but i don't really know much about hardware and drivers, though i really need to learn.04:43
domscguy: yeah, i'm running a webserver, svn, and bugzilla from my desktop machine04:43
mapezi have ntfs-config installed.. and it has worked before.. but I rebooted and I no longer can mount my ntfs drive.04:43
unlivingdeadByron: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start04:43
scguy318smultron: known issue04:43
jdongAbsenth: and then reboot or run sudo /etc/rc.local04:43
scguy318mapez: check your fstab04:43
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smultronscguy318: darn :(04:43
scguy318dom: ah04:44
mapezscguy318 how do I do that?04:44
jdongtech0007: did you install all of those services?04:44
domscguy: it works, mostly - but it's not sending emails04:44
Byronjust like show the desktop top like the launcher on the bottom panel does04:44
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scguy318dom: mm, I dunno about that :(04:44
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tech0007jdong...i dont think so..unless it was installed by default?04:44
domanyone else? bugzilla, not sending emails, using exim4 ??04:44
Absenthjdong: that can't be correct can it?04:44
unlivingdeadanyone know where i can find a configuration reference for setting up my xorg.conf?04:44
jdongtech0007: no, by default there should be zero open ports04:44
jdongAbsenth: pardon?04:44
Ashfire908is there a way to have scrollback in screen04:44
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Absenthjdong: nevermind I got it :)04:45
jdongtech0007: where did you run the nmap from, by the way?  you can get a VERY different picture if you nmap yourself from yourself.04:45
Absenthjdong: I misunderstood what you told me to do the first time I read it.04:45
jdongAbsenth: haha, ok :). On a power-saving crusade?04:45
Absenthjdong: heat, but yes.04:45
Byronunlivingdead, do i really need sudo just to show the desktop?04:45
scguy318jdong: from his own machine04:45
jdongAbsenth: aye, always fun :)04:46
Absenthjdong: 1.8ghz dual core notebook keyboard gets warm.04:46
jdongscguy318: he might be seeing loopback noise then.04:46
unlivingdeadByron: dunno, try it without, if it fails then yes.04:46
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scguy318unlivingdead: man xorg.conf04:46
unlivingdeadscguy318: sexy.04:46
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fritzsHow do I mount a NFS share using the GUI?04:46
tech0007jdong...when i do nmap -sS 127.0.0.1. i get  ipp and iss-realsecure-sensor...but when i do nmap -sS 121.x.x.x, i got all these services like ssh etc04:46
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tech0007jdong...i dont understand04:46
scguy318tech0007: dont nmap yourself04:46
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fritzsSorry, How do I mount a NFS share using the GUI (in 7.10)?04:46
jdongtech0007: it's normal to be seeing IPP and a few other services on loopback04:46
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scguy318tech0007: use a service like ShieldsUp! or do it from a remote machine on the Internet04:46
jdongtech0007: you should have a 3rd party nmap you04:46
jdongscguy318: I don't recommend shieldsup04:47
jdongtech0007: http://nmap-online.com/04:47
thinman1189scguy318 yeah i know but i don't really know much about hardware and drivers, though i really need to learn.04:47
scguy318jdong: thanks, Steve Gibson is a nutjob anyway04:47
jdongscguy318: shieldsup for me has been prone to inaccurate scan results -- false-close false-open ports, and so on04:47
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Byronunlivingdead, it doesnt work with or with out sudo, (im trying to make a launcher to that will show the desktop, not start the window manager)04:47
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jdongscguy318: at some time, the guy tried a *NetBIOS Administrator passwordless login* by visiting the shieldsup homepage, which IMO is simply uncalled for04:48
unlivingdeadByron: an applet for the bars? it should already be there04:48
unlivingdeadByron: there for selection i mean.04:48
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Random832why does my computer have eight floppy drives, according to nautilus?04:48
scguy318jdong: indeed04:48
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Byronunlivingdead, yes but i want to add it to awn so i need to make a custom one04:49
Ashfire908Random832, you sure it's not a card reader or something?04:49
unlivingdeadByron: sexy. i dont know, but awn is a nice launcher.04:49
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Anaxitetonyyarusso: Can I just remove the UUID's from /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab and replace them with their previous /dev equivalents?04:49
Byronhmmm04:49
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Byronawn is very sexy ;)04:50
scguy318Anaxite: sure04:50
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Anaxitescguy318: thanks... with any luck, that'll fix it, since there was no typo..04:50
dvs01w00t04:50
dvs014 more days04:50
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rainwalkerjordan_U: I made a bit of progress!04:51
MilitantPotatoHey what do I need to watch a DVD movie?04:51
Random832Ashfire908: yes, i'm sure.04:51
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rainwalkerMilitantPotato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41362404:51
Random832[and even if it was, i would want to get rid of it] 04:51
tech0007jdong... i tried fullscan on nma-online..i got ssh, telnet, h323, waht's all that?04:51
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jdongtech0007: telnet is the most concerning in the list04:52
Ashfire908does screen have the ability to have scrollback?04:52
scguy318tech0007: i imagine its your gateway?04:52
cashier1103hi all04:52
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jdongtech0007: ssh is a fairly safe service to be running, but Telnet is not. h323 might be some teleconferencing/video-chat app04:52
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tech0007jdong...so when they telnet to that 121.x.x.x ip, are they connecting to my box or my isp's?04:53
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tech0007scguy318...my gateway? so that's my isp right?04:54
scguy318tech0007: i would imagine your ISP's04:54
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heavenxi hate linux04:54
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domlol04:54
jdongtech0007: I don't know.04:54
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scguy318jdong: i just probed his IP, its a bunch of filtered entires, not open04:55
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jdongscguy318: you're right;04:55
Ashfire908does screen support scrollback?04:55
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xp_prg2bcwindowbase.h:73:38: error: X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h: No such file or directory04:55
xp_prg2anyone know the ubuntu package to get this file?04:55
gentoonscguy318, do ya use pidgin?04:55
jdongtech0007: your public IP (the one that IRC returns via /whois) neither accepts SSH nor telnet04:55
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levarnuYup, by default, ctrl-a, then [04:56
scguy318gentoon: yes04:56
gentoonscguy318, does it support myspaceim?04:56
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AnaxiteWhee, it works!04:56
AnaxiteThanks, guys04:56
jdongxp_prg2: x11proto-xf86vidmode-dev: usr/include/X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h04:56
tech0007scguy318/jdong...so...they're not open? my box is secured?04:56
Ashfire908!screen > Ashfire90804:56
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scguy318tech0007: yes04:56
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jdongxp_prg2: TIP: Install and use apt-file if you regularly compile stuff; it's very handy for locating files in packages04:57
scguy318gentoon: yep, I believe so04:57
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scguy318gentoon: lemme look at protocol list, im pretty sure it does04:57
jdongtech0007: it would appear like you've got nothing open04:57
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scguy318gentoon: yes it does04:57
tech0007jdong/scguy318...woohoo. :)04:57
gentoonscguy318, have ya tried it?04:57
scguy318gentoon: no, I don't use MySpace04:58
gentoonscguy318, What about webcam in MSN?04:58
scguy318gentoon: Pidgin doesn't do webcam or voice, so I would use aMSN04:58
scguy318gentoon: for webcam functionality04:58
Absenthjdong: already a huge improvement....  set up cpufrequtils, enabled laptopmode, and turned on the power aware smp scheduler04:58
xp_prg2and this?  X11/extensions/Xvlib.h: No such file or directory ?04:58
gentoonamsn huh04:58
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jdongAbsenth: very nice :)04:58
unlivingdeadhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/33075 theres the launchpad url for the bug, but it seems to be down. the other solutions are old and outdated.04:58
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rainwalkerI just renamed my .gconf file to .gconf-old, and if I want to replace my new .gconf with the old one, what would the command be?04:58
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jdongxp_prg2: install apt-file, then do "sudo apt-file update"; then do "apt-file search X11/extensions/Xvlib.h"04:58
scguy318gentoon: what about aMSN?04:58
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jdongxp_prg2: alternatively: http://packages.ubuntu.com/  look at bottom, Search the contents of packages04:59
gentoonscguy318, Ill have to check it out04:59
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scguy318gentoon: kk04:59
xp_prg2I don have apt-file04:59
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rainwalkerwould the command be "sudo mv /home/username/.gconf-old /home/username/.gconf"?04:59
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unlivingdeadDoes anyone know the solution to the Dell Inspiron 8200 Samsung UXGA (1600x1200) Display Corruption problem? Here is the launchpad link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/33075 All of the solutions on the page are non-working.05:00
Mookiehow can i tell what sound card i have?05:00
gentoondmesg05:00
xp_prg2 X11/extensions/Xvlib.h searched for this on the package page and nothing came up :(05:00
jotilrainwalker: yea05:00
tech0007mookie...lspci | grep multimedia05:00
Mookieforget iut05:00
Mookiei found out05:00
Mookiethanks tech05:00
rainwalkerjotil: thank you, I was freaking out for a second05:01
Mookiei need to find out why my system beeb works in gutsy but not my audio05:01
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fritzsHow do I mount a NFS share using the GUI (in 7.10)?05:01
silentDON'T TASE ME BRO!05:02
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silentoops, random05:02
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scguy318silent: #ubuntu-offtopic :)05:02
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scguy318rainwalker: yes05:02
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scguy318Mookie: tried speaker-test and/or cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp?05:03
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jdongscguy318: lol, that's awful! :D05:03
rainwalkerok, so if I know my problem is with my .gconf file, what should I do?05:03
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dwxreaperubuntu does not have a supported snort package, and the unsupported packages were old. so i compiled from source05:03
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meoblast001hello05:03
dwxreaperinitially i compiled without support for mysql, so mysql is not working. it says run configure script with --with-mysql05:04
scguy318jdong: the latter is just crappier noise than the former :P05:04
dwxreaperi did that, and now it says can't find mysql.h file05:04
scguy318jdong: the former I should put on when I sleep05:04
meoblast001im trying to convert a video to a video with a lower resolution05:04
meoblast001how can i do this05:04
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scguy318meoblast001: ffmpeg, and I think DeVeDe is a frontend for that util?05:04
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tech0007meblast001...or transcode05:04
jdongscguy318: haha, you are a beast :)05:05
meoblast001scguy318: ffmpeg yells at me05:05
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scguy318dwxreaper: you probably need a MySQL dev package05:05
meoblast001i tried tlc but it doesnt change resolution05:05
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cal_hi05:05
cal_do anybody know conky05:06
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scguy318cal_: what about?05:06
cal_conky the script which show the system information an the screen05:06
meoblast001scguy318: do you know how to change resolution in VLC05:06
Absenthis there a way to make the screen on my laptop actually power down as part of the screensaver?05:06
scguy318meoblast001: i think when you transcode you can specify the destination's height and width05:06
AbsenthI noticed last night it went to a blank screen, but the backlight was still running after hours of non-use05:07
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rainwalkerAbsenth, I've noticed that too, but I don't know how to change it05:07
Ashfire908Absenth, you need to have it turn off the screen05:07
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scguy318cal_: well, yeah, but what do you want to know about it?05:07
meoblast001scguy318: the command line doesnt work.. it just launches VLC and says something about not being able to open something05:07
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cafuegoAbsenth: power applet, settings, turn off display05:07
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scguy318meoblast001: details would help, and I just use the transcoding wizard in VLC05:07
tech0007meoblast001...what format is it?05:08
meoblast001scguy318: that doesnt have resolution in the wizard tech0007: mpeg05:08
rainwalkercafuego: what power applet are you talking about?05:08
meoblast001and it renders with no sound05:08
Absenthcafuego: "put the screen to sleep" you mean?05:08
cafuegoAbsenth: that one05:08
geminixoproblem....I have a geforce 4 ti 4200 and a 19 inch LCD monitor, and I still cannot, for the life of me, get 1280X1080 resolution....help?05:08
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Absenthcafuego: that's already set.  it does NOT power off the LCD05:08
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cafuegoAbsenth: On both profiles? battery as well as ac?05:09
Absenthcafuego: yes05:09
Samuli^geminixo, dont you mean 1280*1024?05:09
gentooninstall me bartending software support room now05:09
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geminixoyes I certainly do!05:09
Absenthjdong: 20min after turning on power savings features.  the keyboard is a good 15f cooler :)05:09
John117Hey guys.   I have NO experience with Linux and I"m trying to use Ubuntu.   It's kicking my ass.  I don't understand how to get XGL installed and turn on the desktop effects so I can run Beryl.  Are there any plain easy to understand tutorials?05:09
geminixosilly me :P05:09
cafuegomeoblast001: ffmpeg -s WIDTHxHEIGHT will rescale05:09
jdongAbsenth: amazing what a bit of tweaking can do, huh? :)05:10
scguy318!xgl | John11705:10
ubotuJohn117: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:10
Samuli^geminixo, hehe, try have that in the modes in xorg.conf :)05:10
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Absenthjdong: I've done this all on ArchLinux and PC-BSD before.  Ubuntu has quite a different configuration method than the other two, but yes.05:10
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meoblast001cafuego: when i load my video into my MP3... it also plays real fast05:10
jdongJohn117: Xgl is also going to be extremely simple in Gutsy, so it might be easier just to wait a few days :)05:10
rolanddI am member of the group www-data, how come I cannot edit files with permission 644?05:10
Absenthjdong: on PC-BSD it scales my dual core 1.8ghz down to ~ 150mhz most times :)05:10
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scguy318rolandd: do those files belong to you or your group?05:10
Flannelrolandd: because 644 is only 4 (read) for the group05:10
scguy318rolandd: and if its 644, then wouldn't your group be ro?05:11
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jdongAbsenth: that's not "scaling" down though -- that's T-state throttling05:11
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jdongAbsenth: which you can still do via /proc/acpi05:11
rolanddthey belong to www-data:www-data05:11
KriZegutsy tester here: sound works fine thru headphones, but not through built in laptop speakers05:11
cafuegomeoblast001: Did you change the frame and/or bit and/or sample rate?05:11
Absenthjdong: ahhh.05:11
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meoblast001cafuego; the original file does05:11
meoblast001before editing05:11
jdongAbsenth: the CPU is still running at 1.8GHz, or the lowest CPUFreq state (probably 1GHZ on Core * duo)05:11
Absenthjdong: either way.  800mhz is slow enough,  and I honestly think the SMP aware scheduler is making a bigger difference.05:11
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jdongAbsenth: just the ACPI firmware tells your system to hold every X nanoseconds and stop executing05:12
scguy318rolandd: since the permissions are 644, then your group only has read-only permission I believe05:12
Absenthamd turion, but yeah.05:12
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rolanddthose are file uploaded via the webbrowser05:12
John117What can i do to be more proficient with this? I feel lost.  I don't understand any of the greek commands.   I was GREAT with Dos back in the day.  I understand command lines and stuff. but none of this makes any sense.05:12
jdongAbsenth: it's solely good for throttling heat while the system is under load, not really for efficiency or anything05:12
rolanddso I have to change the permissions every time I upload something :-S05:12
Absenthjdong: yeah, i figured.05:12
Flannel!cli | John11705:12
ubotuJohn117: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:12
Absenthjdong: in reality though,  more idle time = less heat, longer battery, goodness05:12
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Flannelrolandd: you can probably set default perms05:12
John117Compiz? XGL? What are these?  how do I instal them..  man. i'm so lost. LOL05:13
rolanddFlannel: How do I do that?05:13
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scguy318John117: you may be better off waiting for Gutsy in a few days :)05:13
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jdongAbsenth: actually T-states don't really affect idle time, or battery life. it only affects heat while under load05:13
scguy318John117: that stuff is setup out of box I believe05:13
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Absenthjdong: seems to be affecting heat while NOT under load.05:14
jdongAbsenth: it actually reduces battery life because the CPU stays in a highest C-state a longer period of time05:14
Flannelrolandd: You'll have to check the config options for whatever you're using serverside to upload via the web browser.  Its not a linux thing, but a script thing.05:14
nzerohey does anyone know anything about fglrx05:14
John117scguy318 will everything be automated?  I want to run Beryl but i have an ati X200 card on this laptop and i'm told it is not truely 3d and won't work with it?  is that true?05:14
jdongAbsenth: then your system must be doing something while "idle" that's actually loading it05:14
jdongAbsenth: running Gutsy?05:14
dwxreaperi'm looking for mysql.h to compile mysql support with snort, snort is not in a supported ubuntu package, weird!05:14
Absenthjdong: yes.05:14
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dwxreaperi believe the file mysql.h is in some mysql development package, how do i find out05:14
cal_ i will configure the settings but now i will that the title like CPU or anything else which is over the informations is in the middle of the conky05:14
Absenthjdong: I guess my idea of idle isn't the same as the CPUs :)05:14
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jdongAbsenth: hmm, you should be in tip-top shape then; you can play with T-states via /proc/acpi/processor if you want, but I don't think it's a good idea05:14
John117Is gutsy going to be the full release of 7.04?05:14
GutsyRC!grub05:14
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:14
Flanneldwxreaper: Do you already have it installed? or youre looking for the package to install?05:15
FlannelJohn117: Gutsy is 7.1005:15
Absenthjdong: xwindows, with 2 xterms with ssh is hardly "idle"05:15
cal_window05:15
scguy318John117: yes, the installer detects whether your hardware can do Compiz, and if it doesn't, disabled05:15
dwxreaperflannel: mysql is installed, but i still do not have the mysql.h file05:15
cal_${color orange}Controllstation ${hr 1}$color05:15
dwxreaperthere are a few databases working, but snort needs mysql.h05:15
cafuegodwxreaper: Of course. That's in libmysqlclient15-dev05:15
jdongAbsenth: ah, indeed it isn't05:15
Absenthjdong: nah, the cpufrequtils, and enabling laptop mode should be good enough.05:15
cal_now the Title "Controllstation is on the left from conky window and then till the end of the window there is the line05:15
nzerohey does anyone know anything about fglrx05:15
Flanneldwxreaper: You can either use apt-file, or just go to packages.ubuntu.com and search (second set of search boxes)05:15
jdongAbsenth: hr_round_jiffies should help in gutsy+1 hopefully05:15
John117"The composite extension is not available" does that mean it won't work?05:15
jrib!info snort-mysql | dwxreaper05:15
ubotudwxreaper: snort-mysql: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System [MySQL] . In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3.3-9 (feisty), package size 348 kB, installed size 856 kB05:15
GutsyRCubotu is awesome.05:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is awesome. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:15
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cal_${color orange}$alignc Controllstation ${hr 1}$color05:15
cal_ but then the word will beginn in the middle of the window and the line starts after the word. but i will have the line before and after the word05:15
jdongAbsenth: that's the effect of T-states that we need to exploit05:15
dwxreaperlet me try that05:15
cafuegodwxreaper: Snort only needs mysqh if you compile it. if you install the precompiled snort you don't need the -dev package at all.05:16
rolanddFlannel: spot on. I set the configuration to make it 664. Thanks :)05:16
jdongAbsenth: holding all activity for short, full-load bursts05:16
Flanneldwxreaper: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=mysql.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386  So, http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/libdevel/libmysqlclient15-dev05:16
jribdwxreaper: looks like it is packaged05:16
cal_can someone help me with this problem05:16
jdongAbsenth: rather than waking up randomly and evenly over time05:16
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localgod11 i cant get picture on the tv i am using an Nvidia gefore mx40005:16
cafuego!info snort-mysql05:16
nzeroubotu:ping05:16
ubotusnort-mysql: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System [MySQL] . In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3.3-9 (feisty), package size 348 kB, installed size 856 kB05:16
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Absenthjdong: honestly though,  i don't think Windows is doing any better at efficiency.  OSX might be. but I'm not well versed there.05:16
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dwxreapercafuego: there is no precompiled updated version05:16
nzeroubotu:ping05:16
Dialntonei need some help on getting a probe going,05:16
GutsyRC!error 1505:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about error 15 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:16
Absenthjdong: I just know my 800mhz 12" iBook would go on average 6 hours on a charge with "normal" use.05:16
cafuegoAnd the updated on specifically has features you need?05:16
John117I saw videos of Beryl on Ubuntu on youtube the other day.  I thought "i have to have that" but is it possibly without a degree in linux? :)05:16
Dialntonei need to fix my sound card its not being detected...05:17
localgod11john117: yes05:17
scguy318John117: yes, wait for Gutsy :)05:17
nzerohey does anyone know anything about fglrx05:17
FlannelJohn117: very much so.  You can also ask in #ubuntu-effects05:17
fatejudgerI installed Gimmie as my application launcher and the "Shut Down" selection no longer points to the Ubuntu logout dialog, but instead points to some generic Gnome one. Is there any fix for this?05:17
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jdongAbsenth: I've spent most of my day optimizing my core2duo macbook's power efficiency under Ubuntu05:17
localgod11john117: what he said05:17
AtlantizGutsy is 4 days away!05:17
cafuegonzero: Enough to have an nvidia card ;-)05:17
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jdongAbsenth: currently doing OS X benchmarking, and so far I don't see a very significant difference in power management05:17
John117okay.. i guess i'll wait.   Can i do an upgrade or do i have to format and reinstall?05:17
nzeronvidia sux05:17
cal_better then ati05:17
FlannelJohn117: You can upgrade, like all ubuntu versions05:17
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Absenthjdong: i think the PPC arch. is enough different than X86 to make it apples & oranges.05:18
cafuegoOh, fine.05:18
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cal_with nvidia u can play doom3 and counterstrike source05:18
jdongAbsenth: after some powertop tweaking, Ubuntu seems to have a 12 minute life disadvantage on the first discharge run, which could simply be noise05:18
Dialntoneanyone know how to fix a sound issue on ubuntu?05:18
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nzeroi do that anyway05:18
jdongAbsenth: but I think you're right in that PPC is vastly different05:18
dwxreaperyeah that snort-mysql is old and vulnerable to remote-exploit should probably take that off..05:18
sn0nanyone else having problems with sound and wine?05:18
Absenthjdong: now that apples are on x86(64) they likely don't work the same any longer.05:18
tech0007Dialntone....'lspci | grep 'Multimedia'05:18
cal_ i will configure the settings but now i will that the title like CPU or anything else which is over the informations is in the middle of the conky05:18
nzeronvidia just take more of your money05:18
jdongAbsenth: not to mention Apple keeps tight cloak on its PMU, so there's probably power-saving options we don't know about05:18
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geminixowhat do I need to change in my xorg file to have 1280X1024 resolution?05:18
cafuegonzero: it was a joke, just let it go.05:18
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scguy318geminixo: probably you would add the horiz/vert sync ranges for your monitor05:19
jdongAbsenth: with modern Core * Duo chips, the secret is to prolong idle and chedule all wakeups together, as much as possible05:19
Absenthjdong: I might test the life of the battery in this notebook in Gusty vs XP-64bit tomorrow.05:19
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jdongAbsenth: note that Ubuntu 32-bit is superior in power consumption / heat currently!05:19
Flanneldwxreaper: There have been a few security updates: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/s/snort/snort_2.3.3-9/changelog05:19
Dialntonetech0007,  nothing happens05:19
jdongAbsenth: Ubuntu 64-bit does not have a tickless kernel05:19
Absenthjdong: tickless hasn't been ported to AMD64 yet has it05:19
izzhello all05:19
izzi have a question when someone gets a chance05:19
Absenthjdong: I don't think that's just ubuntu.05:19
Dialntoneare you sure u wrote down ur cmd right??05:19
Flannel!ask | izz05:19
ubotuizz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:19
Absenthjdong: I think that's across the board atm.05:19
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jdongAbsenth: right, it is across the board05:20
aronou2How do you change the permissions on sysctl.conf?05:20
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Absenthjdong: any idea of the CFS made it into Gusty?  or do we have to wait for Gusty+105:20
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jdongAbsenth: rather, a few daring distros *cough Redhat rawhide* are doing it05:20
dwxreaperflannel: anything 2.3 is vulnerable and very very old, security software that will get you owned, should take it off05:20
jdongAbsenth: CFS is not in Gutsy05:20
tech0007Dialntone...yup..jst do lspci, look for a line with Multimedia05:20
izzhaha my mistake. ok i got realplayer working, but it's all choppy and stuff. any fixes for this?05:20
Absenthjdong: that "might" make a difference as well.05:20
jdongAbsenth: I mean, it only released like a week before RC; no way it's gonna be a Gutsy feature :)05:20
rainwalkerizz: why realplayer?05:20
Absenthjdong: it's not supposed to be a power mgt thing....  but it could help.05:20
Dialntonetech0007,  im on a laptop, that command is it looking for a pci device ?05:20
izzwhat do you mean rainwalker05:21
Absenthjdong: nod nod.  I've been running ArchLinux on the other system here.  they are pretty close to the bleeding edge, but don't have CFS yet either.05:21
Absenthjdong: at least not as of friday.05:21
cal_how can i register me to irc05:21
Flanneldwxreaper: Its been patched from newer versions.  patches from 2.4.5 and such.05:21
rainwalkerizz: why use realplayer? There are (in my opinion) better media players05:21
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(skaller/#ubuntu) for feisty..07:21
(Evanlec/#ubuntu) scguy318, i install lm-sensors, did the modprobe...07:21
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(theAtom/#ubuntu) how I remove openoffice?07:21
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(Evanlec/#ubuntu) scguy318, and the applet, but the applet shows up strange, -55c, -2, 42c07:22
(skaller/#ubuntu) remove with synaptic?07:22
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(mattg/#ubuntu) sry about "fatcatmatt" joins and parts07:22
tsp07:22
goddamn_mac_manEvanlec: it's not uncommon to get funny ghost readings like that07:22
EvanlecFATAL: Error inserting coretemp (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/coretemp.ko): No such device07:22
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Evanlecis what i got with modprobe coretemp07:22
MasterShrekskaller, yes, or just wait if u are going to update to gutsy, it seems to work fine07:23
charles__how do i install the 'flex' package?07:23
MasterShrekEvanlec, i think u want to probe the module called thermal07:23
MasterShrekcharles__, sudo apt-get install flex07:23
skallerMasterShrek; so far the upgrade works but a fresh install doesn't internet properly07:23
scguy318Evanlec: did you do sudo sensors-detect?07:23
skallerI have two boxes07:23
Evanlecscguy318, yea...hit yes to everything07:23
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theAtomE: openoffice.org-gnome: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured   <-- any fix?07:23
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L0GANif i tell wibu to use 6GB for ubuntu, the max filesize would be crossed07:24
scguy318Evanlec: what modules did it add to /etc/modules? modprobe those07:24
L0GAN?07:24
GuHHHhey, is there any way to find a line in a file, and add a # to the beggining of the line, by command?07:24
Evanlecscguy318, right, my output for the first one07:24
Evanlecel@ubuntu64:~$ modprobe pca954007:24
EvanlecFATAL: Module pca9540 not found.07:24
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scguy318Evanlec: shouldn't it be sudo modprobe ...?07:24
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drlearnhi07:24
goddamn_mac_manL0GAN: The only way to get around the FAT32 file size limit would be to split the WUbI virtual disk into multiple files. I believe VMWare already does that. A Better solution by far would be to ditch FAT32 and use NTFS07:24
Evanlecerr yea, but that least to same thing07:24
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charles__<MasterShrek>thanks, tried that, think i spelled something wrong, working now07:24
Evanlecel@ubuntu64:~$ sudo modprobe pca954007:24
EvanlecFATAL: Module pca9540 not found.07:24
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scguy318Evanlec: the other modules?07:25
alexandrehello07:25
theAtomwhats "sudo apt-get -f install"  do?07:25
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L0GANgoddamn_mac_man : well im still using fat32 instead of ntfs07:25
MasterShrektheAtom, it forces the install i believe07:25
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MasterShrektheAtom, apt-get --help    will give you a list of flags u can use with apt-get07:26
L0GAN: goddamn_mac_man not sure why though, I forgot lol07:26
theAtommaster_of_master, installed 7.10 and openoffice says  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured!  cant update or remove07:26
drlearncan somebody help me?07:26
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theAtomMasterShrek,  I installed 7.10 and openoffice says  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured!  cant update or remove07:26
theAtomany fix?07:26
Evanlecscguy318, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40679/07:26
goddamn_mac_manL0GAN: You'll have to look into whether or not WUbI can split the virtual disk file into multiple chunks07:26
linux_stuwill a new version of xubuntu be released on thursday also?07:26
MasterShrektheAtom, open up synaptic and try to find out what the dependency issues are07:26
mattgim waiting for the real thing to come out with 7.1007:27
Evanlecscguy318, thats the result of what it added to /etc/modules ...i thot i was sposed to modprobe the two at the end of the file ya?07:27
MasterShreklinux_stu, yeap07:27
scguy318Evanlec: yeah07:27
linux_stuthanks master_of_master07:27
theAtomMasterShrek, LOL! dont troll dude07:27
linux_stu**thanks MasterShrek07:27
scguy318Evanlec: pca9540 doesn't appear to exist I believe07:27
Evanlecso what do i do?"07:27
dfgas!kde407:27
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php07:27
MasterShrektheAtom, im trolling?07:28
skallerhmm .. network unreachable07:28
theAtomE: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:28
scguy318Evanlec: modprobe it87, and that's probably it07:28
theAtomdont install 7.10!  its buggy as hell07:28
L0GANforum says "Even testing1 should work with win 98 as well, but you need to make sure that the virtual drives are 4GB or less. At the moment we cannot detect fat file systems and restrict the size automatically."07:28
mattgim thinking about installing Mac OS X on my HP Laptop07:28
mattg:)07:28
L0GANbut not in faq etc07:28
skallerno gateway shown in ifconfig07:28
MasterShrektheAtom, you have a dpkg process running somewhare i think, and im running 7.10 and it works great07:28
scguy318theAtom: package manager open?07:28
Evanlecscguy318, okay i did that, no errors...but i'll paste output of 'sensors' cmd07:28
scguy318Evanlec: thats probably all you can do :)07:29
theAtomMasterShrek, did 7.10 give you openoffice dependcy errors?07:29
skallerno inet6 address07:29
MasterShrektheAtom, nope07:29
EADG_Does DDRescue have a gui, or is it cli only? Just wondering...07:29
L0GANas the wibu is added to ubuntu live cd...07:29
Evanlecscguy318, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40680/07:29
theAtomMasterShrek, wonder why I got it07:29
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theAtomhow can I totALLy remove openoffice?07:29
chuckyHow do I install KDE and remove Gnome?07:30
MasterShrektheAtom, i suppose it had to do with what u installed with, and where things were upgraded when u did a dist-upgrade07:30
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scguy318Evanlec: that's probably the best you can do07:30
Evanlecscguy318, i dont think any of those are accurate, even the 43c one, sounds low for my core based on what bios says07:30
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MasterShrektheAtom, yes, open synaptic and right click on all the openoffice packages and completely remove07:30
goddamn_mac_manchucky: install kubuntu :P07:30
scguy318Evanlec: you might want to change sensor scales I suppose, though I forgot how07:30
Evanlecscguy318, really? so i cant make it work?07:30
Evanlecthats annoying07:30
MasterShrekchucky, you can have them both07:30
scguy318Evanlec: ?07:30
chuckybut isnt that kinda dangerous?07:30
MasterShrekchucky, if you want kde, just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:30
MasterShreknot at all chucky07:30
scguy318Evanlec: your sensors seem to be detected, but you probably want to change the sensor scales07:31
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chuckyooh ok thank you07:31
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MasterShrekchucky, when you get to your login screen, just choose a differnt session07:31
chuckyso no way to remove gnome eh07:31
Evanlecscguy318, only the last reading actually changes (the rest are not actually reading cuz they dont change i believe)07:31
MasterShrekyea you can, but it might get ugly lol07:31
Evanlecscguy318, but 43c is too low for my core...07:31
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MasterShrekEvanlec, start compiling! itll go up! :)07:32
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xplothola chikos07:32
xplot:D07:32
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MasterShrek!es07:32
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:32
scguy318xplot: hola, como esta?07:32
EvanlecMasterShrek, but even at bios its usually idling at 55C07:32
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MasterShrek=P07:32
scguy318!es | xplot07:32
ubotuxplot: please see above07:32
scguy318beat me07:32
EvanlecMasterShrek, according to the bios, but i imagine thats correct...07:32
chiquesHello!07:32
xplotohhh sorry07:32
chiquesCan someone help me?07:32
xplotjejeje07:32
xplotbye bye07:32
chiquesI have a question07:32
MasterShrekEvanlec, well i figured there was something wrong, that seemed kinda low07:32
MasterShrek!ask07:33
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:33
scguy318Evanlec: probably adjust stuff in /etc/sensors.conf07:33
goddamn_mac_manEvanlec: The CPU typically gets pegged at 100% while in the BIOS so you have to take that into account as well07:33
chiquesI keep getting this brown screen and just a mouse pointer, why is this happening?07:33
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AutumnCatscguy318: Core  0:            +25C    (high  =      +85C) <-- what does the "(high  =      +85C) " mean ?07:33
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goddamn_mac_manAutumnCat: That's the alarm threshold07:34
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Evanlecgoddamn_mac_man, no kidding? didnt know that07:34
chiquesI get the brown screen and a mouse pointer when I boot from a live cd07:34
MasterShrekchiques, try creating another user and logging in with them and see if the same thing happens, its probably a gnome config that got screwed up07:34
scguy318AutumnCat: thats the sensor limits I believe07:34
charles__how do you install x developement?07:34
chiquesMasterShrek: I get it when I boot from the Live CD07:34
MasterShrekchiques, oh thats all you get on the liveCD?07:34
scguy318AutumnCat: oh, what goddamn_mac_man said07:34
chiquesMasterShrek: Yes07:34
MasterShrekhmm, did u try in safe graphics mode?07:34
scguy318charles___: apt-cache search libx11, then sudo apt-get install ....07:35
dfgasanyone using kde4?07:35
theAtom/usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings: failed to write cache <-- when openoffice tries to update!  any fix?07:35
MasterShrekchiques, are you using feisty (7.04)?07:35
chiquesMasterShrek: yes, i tried safe graphics mode and I get the same result07:35
EvanlecMasterShrek, what about this coretemp module? how do i get output of that?07:35
chiquesI'm using the latest release on the site...let me double check07:35
AutumnCatscguy318: I set the  alarm temperature = 75 in bios ..07:35
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charles__xlib6g-dev, suggested, couldn't find it, try x1107:35
MasterShreknot too sure Evanlec ive never really messed around with sensors much07:35
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chiquesKubuntu 7.04 (Feisty)07:36
EvanlecMasterShrek, oh darn, okay, really wanted to see what difference is beteween toothpaste and arctic silver ;p07:36
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scguy318AutumnCat: i believe its the alarm settings in /etc/sensors.conf07:36
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chiquesMasterShrek: I'm using Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty)07:37
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MasterShrekchiques, newer hardware?07:37
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charles__is there a way to copy things here?07:38
MasterShrek!paste | charles__07:38
ubotucharles__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:38
chiquesMasterShrek: It's "brand new" motherboard07:38
chiquesAsus07:38
SnuxollHmmm......Ubuntu could use a nice intro movie......07:38
scguy318Snuxoll: theres some vids in the example folder on the LiveCD07:39
charles__just copying something someone else write, don't have the option when i right click07:39
silentONE COMPUTER... ONE OPERATING SYSTEM... THIS FALL... gutsy, now in repos07:39
Snuxollscguy318: None of those are good "Welcome to Ubuntu" vids, I was thinking something like Tiger's intro video...07:39
MasterShrekchiques, i would wait until gutsy is released on thursday07:39
GuHHHdoes it works: sed 's/$(grep /etc/apt/sources.list -i cdrom)/#$(grep /etc/apt/sources.list -i cdrom)' ?07:40
goddamn_mac_manSnuxoll: I *hate* that vid07:40
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Snuxollgoddamn_mac_man: Why?07:40
chiquesMasterShrek: Is there an older version which might be more stable which you recommend me trying?07:40
goddamn_mac_manSnuxoll: It's unbelievably annoying and you can't skip it07:40
Snuxollgoddamn_mac_man: You can skip it, just press ESC last I checked07:41
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SnuxollBesides, you only see it once07:41
chuckywhen 7.10 comes out theres an easy way to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.1007:41
goddamn_mac_manSnuxoll: First thing I tried, didn't work >.<07:41
Snuxollgoddamn_mac_man: Still, it gets most users excited, I think you should be able to press ESC and skip it, but it's a good idea07:42
goddamn_mac_manThe stupid thing is that the one in Panther wasn't as annoying07:42
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Snuxollgoddamn_mac_man: Have you seen the leopard into video?07:42
riotkittieuh.07:43
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SnuxollAlso, anyone know if there is something like Bryce5 for linux?07:43
Evanlecwhats the cmd line to launch gui apps in new process (not from command-line) so i can still have my cli back while the gui app runs07:43
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scguy318Evanlec: &?07:43
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scguy318Evanlec: gui-app-cmd &?07:43
goddamn_mac_manSnuxoll: Nope, I don't have anything capable of running Leopard that I'd want to screw up by running a pre-release07:43
scguy318Evanlec: or what do you mean?07:43
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Evanlecscguy318, yep, thanks07:43
scguy318Evanlec: cool07:43
Evanlecscguy318, tats what i meant, sorry i couldnt explain it any better07:44
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Evanlecscguy318, god, sensors.conf is a pretty damn long file, im kinda lost here07:45
dwxreaperi installed ubuntu, i am running it as a server, it offers lots of services07:45
vIkSiThey all07:45
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dwxreaperif i do apt-get upgrade, it will update all my software at once, and shouldn't cause any problems?07:45
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vIkSiThow would i instal ubuntu in expert mode?07:45
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silentdwxreaper, best to do an apt-get update first07:45
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silentthen upgrade ;)07:45
theAtom!pastebin07:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:45
vIkSiTi'm installing 6.02 - and apparently, the kernel's called "casper"07:45
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vIkSiTbut casper expert or "live expert" don't seem to work07:46
silentvIkSiT, why are you installing 6.02?07:46
dwxreapersilent: ok, what does that do, updates me on what might need an update first07:46
FlannelvIkSiT: casper is the liveCD image.  To install in expert mode, you'll need the alternate CD07:46
vIkSiTsilent, because i don't have 7 :)07:46
silentdwxreaper, it updates your package cache07:46
vIkSiToh i see!07:46
silentso yes07:46
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dwxreaperah ok.  only one thing wrong with this server now07:47
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riotkittieyea, alternate CD all the way. tho even that didnt seem expert mode-y. maybe i missed somethin.g07:47
theAtomeverytime I try to install something on 7.10. i get this error message:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40681/07:47
theAtomcan someone have a look pls?07:47
dwxreaperwhen i do reboot, or shutdown -r now, when it comes back files might be missing07:47
TuxOtakuhey, what's the default URL i should be getting a key from for apt-key in feisty?07:47
FlanneltheAtom: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support, thanks07:47
silentvIkSiT, 7.10 is very nice... I wouldn't lie. I've used ubuntu since hoary07:47
dwxreaperuntil i reboot again, and sometimes i will have to reboot multiple times07:47
chiquesWhat is the most stable version of ubuntu out there right now?07:47
theAtomok07:47
dwxreaperit is only one 80 gig disk, one partition, ext307:47
Flannelriotkittie: theres an expert installer available on it, not by default though07:47
silentchiques, gutsy in 4 days07:47
chiquesOK07:47
silentcurrently feisty07:47
vIkSiTsilent, oh i know. i'm downloading feisty - but i'm running into this bug - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=384319&page=2&highlight=compaq+smart+array07:47
bullgard4I want to make my first steps with phpMyAdmin and MySQL. I installed the NortWindMySQL database. How can I make it to display a table of it in form view, for example the table 'Customers'?07:48
silentbugs are what makes linux fun!07:48
chiquessilent: Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty)?07:48
riotkittieFlannel: ahh. does it allow for crazy things like some measure of package selection? :D07:48
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(silent/#ubuntu) every thirty-odd mounts07:52
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(dwxreaper/#ubuntu) silent: what do you mean , on root?07:52
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(silent/#ubuntu) dwxreaper, on whatever partition you have /07:52
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(dwxreaper/#ubuntu) silent: ok it is every 30 times?07:53
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(silent/#ubuntu) dwxreaper, something like that07:53
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dwxreaperbecause it was happening really often, now i don't see it.  i would go to use anything it would be gone til a reboot or two07:53
dwxreaperlol07:53
dwxreaperit may have ran fsck and fixed the issue07:53
theAtomsilent, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40682/07:53
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silentdwxreaper, probably07:53
babyman1737I'm running 7.1 64-bit, and I'm trying to install 32-bit firefox/flash/java. I downloaded a script from the forums and saved it to my desktop. How do I run that script?07:53
silentits good at it07:53
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silentbabyman1737, I went down that road... for a couple hours... then I downloaded 3207:54
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babyman1737I have 8GB RAM, I need 64-bit07:54
montrevuxaye07:54
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riotkittiebabyman1737: open a terminal, and sh path/to/script or  CD to Desktop and ./scriptnamehere07:54
babyman17373GB doesn't cut it for me in 32-bit07:54
riotkittieassuming it is executable.07:54
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mosbyhola07:55
theAtomsilent, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40682/   <-- what u think?07:55
babyman1737riotkittie, it is a tar.gz07:55
babyman1737on my desktop07:55
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silenttheAtom, I would recommend a "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xorg" but I'm not sure you would recover x1107:55
jack|assHas anyone heard of a problem with NVidia drivers and Xorg (in both feisty and gutsy it seems) where X crashes with signal 11 when you try to start an openGL using application?  I've three nvidia machines, two of them have this behavior.07:55
silenttheAtom, you can try the fonts though first07:55
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riotkittieoh in that case...   term > tar zxvf /path/to/archive and then the above07:56
montrevuxhow do you destroy x11?07:56
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Dr_willisdestroy?07:56
riotkittiedestroy? permanently? temporarily ?07:56
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jotilmovelol07:56
Ryuhowhat do i do if ubuntu is just slow in general07:56
Dr_willisExterminate!07:56
tech0007jack|ass...what nvidia card do u have?07:56
BUDD}{Acan someone tell me were i can get a gmail notifier  that will check two accounts at once07:57
montrevuxTerminate07:57
theAtomhow I totally remove OO?07:57
babyman1737riotkitte, I'm not trying to sound too noobish, but what do I enter in the terminal to run the tar.gz file?07:57
riotkittieRyuho: what kind of system specs do you have going on? has ubuntu always been slow?07:57
theAtombe silent07:57
jack|assmontrevux:  I try to get up close to it, become its friend, learn its secrets, and then I use this information to rip out its heart and send it into a pit of despair.07:57
Dr_willisbabyman1737,  you dont run a tar.gz07:57
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Dr_willis!source07:57
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html07:57
tech0007theAtom apt-get autoremove --purge OO07:57
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Dr_willis!info unp07:57
ubotuunp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB07:57
joebob777as7_anyone know of a good calendar creation software?07:57
silentbabyman1737, you need to extract it... man tar07:57
jack|asstech0007: working ones is a 7950GT.  The ones that fail are 8800GTX and a 7700/7600 dual-head machine.07:57
rredd4how can i set a unallocated partition to ext3.07:57
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theAtomtech0007, E: Couldn't find package OO07:58
bullgard4theAtom: Use the program Synaptic.07:58
babyman1737silent, thank you07:58
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jack|assrredd4: create a partition in it and then use mkext3.fs07:58
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riotkittiebabyman1737: you're not running it, you're extracting it.  type tar xvzf Desktop/whatever-the-file is named (you can type De and tab, then the first letter or two of the tar.gz's name, and hit tab again to complete it)07:58
Ryuhoriotkittie : i have motion tablet, 1.1GH CPU Intel Pentium M, 1GB RAM07:58
silentbabyman1737, good luck with flash on 6407:58
Ryuhoand no it used to be faster07:58
silentRyuho, that's not bad, what do you mean by slow?07:59
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theAtomjow I install Opera?07:59
Seraph34Is there a reason my printer would be perpetually stopped?07:59
babyman1737silent, hopefully this script will get it. It's installs 32-bit firefox and all the plugins07:59
silenttheAtom, opera.com07:59
goddamn_mac_mantheAtom: download the .deb and double-click it07:59
silent.org?07:59
Seraph34It wont print and just says "Paused" at the top of the print queue menu07:59
tech0007theAtom ...dont take it literally change OO to openoffice.org07:59
montrevuxtheAtom,  sudo apt-get install opera probaby07:59
RyuhoI barely use it, but now if I access simple stuff like "Network" under ..Administration (maybe?) it takes at least good 20-30 to even open the window07:59
silentbabyman1737, I hoped it would too07:59
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silentbabyman1737, maybe it will for you07:59
jack|assSeraph34: mine did that but it was for the retarded reason that it wasn't turned on. :)07:59
Ryuhobut oddly, firefox and xchat, normal applications are running normally07:59
dfgaswhy does this command open a xterm in my current z session instead of the newly created one07:59
dfgasXephyr :1 & export DISPLAY=:0 xterm08:00
Seraph34This ones definately on and plugged in and has worked recently08:00
riotkittiewaaait. which script is this?08:00
goddamn_mac_manmontrevux: I don't think it's in the repos, it's proprietary. If you download the .deb from opera.com it's easy enough to install and upgrade08:00
silenti run Opera... lovez it08:00
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silentrepo flash supports it too08:00
tech0007theAtom so that's 'apt-get autoremove --purge openoffice.org'08:00
silentso I can browse youtube like the cool kids08:00
Ryuhooh ya, also. I am using a tablet, is there any way to set it so that it shows the onscreen keyboard @ login screen.?08:00
montrevuxgoddamn_mac_man,  that would be correct. I didn't realize it. No wonder I don't use it, eh?08:00
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theAtom wont allow me to tremove openoffice :(08:01
babyman1737silent, so would Opera in 7.1 64-bit work nice with flash and java?08:01
joebob777as7_anyone know of a good calendar creation software?08:01
montrevuxEveryone, Opera or Firefox?08:01
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riotkittiefirefox. <308:01
tech0007theAtom...error msg?08:01
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babyman1737Firefox08:01
RyuhoFirefox08:01
goddamn_mac_manOpera by far. Every time I use ff I'm reminded of why I love Opera so much08:01
theAtomtech0007, i show u08:02
tech0007montrevux firefox!08:02
silentmontrevux, I've used both a lot.. I prefer opera08:02
theAtom!pastebin08:02
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:02
Ryuhogoddamn_mac_man any reason why i should switch from ff to opra?08:02
silentOpera seems faster and more feaure-rich.. more intuitive interface08:02
goddamn_mac_manOpera is what Firefox wants to be when it grows up, lol08:02
theAtomtech0007, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40684/08:02
rredd4jack|ass  do that in terminal?08:02
montrevuxWhy?08:02
riotkittieopera was awesome way back when but.   <shrug>08:02
silentits really quite a program if you spend some time configuring it to your liking08:02
peacepipejvtrying to install songbird, its a .tar.gz. Help?08:02
silentgoddamn_mac_man, well put08:02
montrevuxgoddamn_mac_man, I'm asking the same question.08:02
theAtomhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40684/   <--- Ubuntu refuses to remove openoffice!  any ideas why?08:02
babyman1737peacepipejv, save it to your desktop, right click on it, and then "extract here"08:03
chiquesCan anyone tell me what the most compatible ubuntu version I can run which I can load Linux Media Center on is?08:03
riotkittieopera was really cool when they had ads, to. paying $30 to remove them <3 ah, those were the days.08:03
Dr_willispeacepipejv, uncompress it.08:03
Dr_willispeacepipejv,  the cd to the dir it makes and run it ./songbird08:03
riotkittieLinux Media Center?08:03
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silenttheAtom, my best guess would be misconfiguration of your fonts, since that's what aptitude couldnt access08:03
montrevuxLinux Media Center...interesting.08:03
tech0007theATOM....what are these '16 not fully installed or removed" on line 8?08:03
Ryuhooh man that would be awesome08:03
Ryuholinux media center08:03
goddamn_mac_manriotkittie: I'd have paid for it back then except I didn't want to have to keep paying for major version upgrades so I just put up with the ads. After a while, you forgot they were even there08:03
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silentRyuho, there is such a thing08:04
RyuhoDoes it work?08:04
com64hey all im a beginner having trouble - every time I boot I get a kernal panic unless I add 'noapic' to the boot line - could anybody give me a hint as to where I can go for help with this kind of problem?08:04
montrevuxRyuho, I blieve its called Mythtv.08:04
silentRyuho, can't remember the name... exclusive linux distro with media compatibility08:04
Ryuhoah I see08:04
BUDD}{Aa08:04
silentsomething box08:04
riotkittiegoddamn_mac_man: in those days i was stuck @ a res of 800x600. it was nearly impossible to forget them :P08:04
silenthmm08:04
jack|assrredd4: yeah08:04
Ryuhonot sling box is it?08:04
theAtomtech0007> theATOM....what are these '16 not fully installed or removed" on line 8? <-- you tell me!  something to do with OO I think!08:04
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goddamn_mac_mansilent: GeeXboX08:04
jack|assrredd4: there may be a gui for it, but i've never tried. :)08:04
goddamn_mac_manriotkittie: so was I, heh08:04
BUDD}{Aa08:04
theAtomtech0007, it happened at new install and updates available screen08:04
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BUDD}{Aa08:05
silentgoddamn_mac_man, thats the one08:05
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goddamn_mac_manI use GeeXboX for media centre stuff. Works quite well except for a couple of minor quibbles (no real playlist support and wifi is hopeless. The latter is a Linux failing sop not really their fault)08:05
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babyman1737anyone running VirtualBox on their linux distro?08:05
BUDD}{Az08:05
tech0007theATOM...run synaptic from System->Administration..synaptic will tell u what command to check this08:05
silentI'm running linux on my linux distro!08:06
rredd4jack|ass  I am booted off of a live cd  says command not found08:06
riotkittiesilent: wow. :o08:06
babyman1737silent....no, VirtualBox08:06
com64hey all im a beginner having trouble - every time I boot I get a kernal panic unless I add 'noapic' to the boot line - could anybody give me a hint as to where I can go for help with this kind of problem?08:06
montrevuxWho all is excited for Gutsy!!!08:06
silentriotkittie, I had to scoop out all the windows first08:06
babyman1737montrevux, I'm running Gutsy right now08:06
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Dr_willisI got geexbox set up on a little partition on my laptop = fast bootng media player. :)08:06
Snuxollmontrevux: I am, then again, I'm already running it08:06
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riotkittiecom64: the best thing you can do is edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add it there. i'm not sure there's an actual fix for it beyond that08:07
silentDr_willis, I always end up doing other stuff while watching movies... so I just decked out my ubuntu with media plugins :p08:07
SnuxollI can't wait for 8.04, Ubuntu will really be rocking then08:07
babyman17378.04?!08:07
silentdude I hear 9.04 is gonna be amazing08:07
tech0007theAtom...or u can do 'sudo apt-get check'08:07
riotkittiecom64: ok, not "best" because i dont know if there are other options.08:07
montrevuxbabyman1737, Snuxoll, Betas? I want to get it now, should i wait for the Final release?08:07
silent10 even better08:07
babyman1737montrevux, no08:07
riotkittie8.04 = the next Long Term Support release, replacement for 6.0608:07
Snuxollmontrevux: It's already in RC, not much is gonna change except bug fixes08:08
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goddamn_mac_mansilent: UbuntuX!!108:08
riotkittiemontrevux: go for it.08:08
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theAtomtech0007, sudo apt-get check <-- didnt do anything08:08
montrevuxHow can I get it?08:08
SnuxollUbuntu X.4 :)08:08
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montrevuxI'm running Feisty now.08:08
babyman1737montrevux, having Compiz Fusion built in is nice08:08
riotkittiei've been using it since tribe 5, and i've still got a pulse.08:08
Snuxollmontrevux: I'd suggest doing a clean install08:08
com64riotkittie: have done that - but the lack of support for this 'apic' thing is causing endless problems with the running of linux in general...08:08
tbfthere should be a tool listing you manually installed packages not used for a long time08:08
silentgoddamn_mac_man, Ubuntu lim x->0 (1/x)08:08
montrevuxYeah, I've got beryl set up in Feisty.08:08
montrevuxmmhmm08:08
goddamn_mac_manmontrevux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-450501c51ccf4406608e447e6ac92eb5a171da3708:08
montrevuxAnyone got a link?08:08
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montrevuxthatd be it08:08
montrevuxthanks08:09
babyman1737montrevux, fusion in 7.1 is so much easier and nicer08:09
Snuxollhttp://i22.tinypic.com/25tkqhu.png I thnk this should be the default theme in 8.04 :)08:09
silentbabyman1737, I'm lovin it08:09
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tbfSnuxoll: what? dist upgrade feisty->gutsy doesn't work!?08:09
goddamn_mac_manSpeaking of compiz, how do you turn that gay transparency on the inactive title bars off? I mean, really turn it off? Best I've managed is barely translucent08:09
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Snuxolltbf: Easier to do a clean install, less chance of breaking stuff08:09
montrevuxSo...Clean install or upgrade from Feisty?08:09
babyman1737silent, I have to get a video card that supports PCI-e 8x08:09
tech0007theAtom....in Synaptic, u can check for broken dependencies or unconfigured apps08:10
riotkittiecom64: have you tried posting @ ubuntuforums.org ? or is it .com [i am too young and fabulous to be this senile] . somebody there may have an idea.08:10
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Snuxollmontrevux: Clean install prefered, but a upgrade probably won't kill you08:10
silentbabyman1737, you don't have too, you want to08:10
babyman1737montrevux, clean install!08:10
goddamn_mac_manI did the upgrade here. Was quite surprised that it didn't break08:10
SnuxollTo do a upgrade to the RC sudo update-manager -d08:10
riotkittiemontrevux: i'm a fan of clean installs. but as Snuxoll said, probably wont kill you08:10
silentSnuxoll, "probably"08:10
tech0007brb08:10
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riotkittieif it does, i hope you've written Snuxoll and myself into your will. <hides>08:10
Snuxollsilent: Grammar nazi, HO08:10
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babyman1737silent, true- but my current video card is horrible, it doesn't support desktop on a cube or anything08:10
montrevuxWhere's the iso for download at?08:10
Snuxolllol riotkittie08:10
montrevuxfor a clean.08:10
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tbfnah.... clean instal is boring08:10
Snuxollmontrevux: Hold on, I'll give you a torrent for it08:11
silentbabyman1737, make sure you go with nvidia08:11
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silentbabyman1737, nvidia be rockin the linux support08:11
tnnccan someone tell me what to look at when i boot up 7.04 and get the the login i login and it then crashes and reloads the login and i can then login without crash any ideas why this is happening08:11
theAtomhow I add a new user?08:11
goddamn_mac_manbabyman1737: no great loss there08:11
silentadduser08:11
riotkittieati is going to be better soon enough, silent08:11
Ademan_anyone know of a grep that accepts perl compatible regex? pcregrep doesn't appear to accept data on stdin so that's out of the question08:11
tbfall those geeky questions in the installer, reinstalling your apps.... nah....08:11
theAtomsilent, LOL that was quick08:11
riotkittie<knocks on wood>08:11
SnuxolltheAtom: System -> Administration -> users and groops08:11
theAtomSnuxoll, cheers08:11
silenttheAtom, I'm fast like that08:11
silentyears of internetting08:11
babyman1737goddamn_mac_man, how is there no great loss? I love compiz!08:11
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silentcompiz is great08:12
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montrevuxAny way I can save my VMware workstations?08:12
Snuxollhttp://i22.tinypic.com/25tkqhu.png What do you guys think about this theme?08:12
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goddamn_mac_manbabyman1737: the desktop cube it pointless bling08:12
Snuxollmontrevux: Backup the .vmx and .vmdk files08:12
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tbfSnuxoll: OMG! Ponys! (that theme looks quite pink)08:12
silentgoddamn_mac_man, to you... but the beauty of linux is that we all have a choice08:12
riotkittieponies? >_>08:12
SnuxollGet gutsy! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/rc/ (torrent prefered)08:12
montrevuxSnuxoll, That's all you need to do?08:12
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theAtomsilent, LOL08:12
Snuxollmontrevux: Yup08:12
theAtomsilent, pizza?08:12
babyman1737goddamn_mac_man, ok, have fun with your terminal08:12
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SnuxollWhat, my theme doesn't look pink'08:13
silenttheAtom, yes, linux is a lot like pizza08:13
ubuntuhi08:13
SnuxollIt's earth tones08:13
Dr_willisi backup the whole /var/lib/vmware(somting) dir I belive is the location08:13
theAtomsilent, :)08:13
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tbfSnuxoll: never got bittorrent to work08:13
theAtomciao for now :)08:13
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RyuhoDoes anyone know how to enable onscreen keyboard during login?08:13
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riotkittieSnuxoll: i like it. visually appealing & easy on the eyes.08:13
tnnccan someone tell me what to look at when i boot up 7.04 and get the the login i login and it then crashes and reloads the login and i can then login without crash any ideas why this is happening08:13
silentRyuho, you have to plug a keyboard in08:13
RyuhoI found posts talking before Fiesty was released08:13
com64riotkittie: thankyou - will try there08:13
riotkittieand it doesnt look like every other theme08:13
tbfSnuxoll: on my screen the dialog faces have quite some pink touch08:13
Snuxollriotkittie: Yea, I find human too bland08:13
mistone_Ryuho, add it to your sessions08:13
riotkittiecom64: good luck08:13
montrevux4.2 GBs......08:13
goddamn_mac_mansilent: where's my choice to have the inactive title bars look normal? :P08:14
montrevux.........08:14
silentryuho, look into init.d... though I'm not sure08:14
Snuxolltbf: Your monitor has some crappy color settings then08:14
Ryuhosilent k thx08:14
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silentgoddamn_mac_man, that unholy idea died with windows08:14
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Ryuhomistone_ is that done by editing a file?08:14
silent;P08:14
mistone_nope08:14
mistone_its all gui08:14
SnuxollAnyone think I should push the desktop theme to set that theme as default in 8.04?08:14
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montrevuxHow'd it go from under a GB to 4 GBs in a single release?08:14
babyman1737goddamn_mac_man, screw GUI, command prompt for life!08:14
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Snuxollmontrevux: It didn't08:14
mistone_go to system->prefrences->sessions08:14
silentSnuxoll, it doesnt look professional enough08:15
goddamn_mac_mansilent: so what you;re saying is we have choice... but we don't? :P08:15
mistone_and there is a list of startup programs08:15
mistone_and you can add your own08:15
riotkittiethe two themes i use a lot lately are either black or dark grey08:15
silentSnuxoll, companies like softer blends, not sharp vivid bright colours08:15
Snuxollsilent: How does it not look professional?08:15
Ryuhobut it's before logging in,08:15
tbfSnuxoll: whatever. but guess my screen isn't the only one, where your theme looks pinkish08:15
mistone_oh my bad lol08:15
Ryuholol08:15
Ryuhook that's what i thought08:15
Snuxollsilent: My colors aren't that sharp08:15
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silentSnuxoll, not ripping it, its a great theme, but i dont think it will be default08:15
silentcould be included as a preset though08:15
SnuxollMy colors are quite calm honestly....08:15
silentdefinitely08:15
Ryuhosilent gksudo gedit /etc/gdm/Init/Default is this the right direction for putting in code like "exec onboard &"08:16
SnuxollOK then, I'll try and get it included then :)08:16
riotkittieSnuxoll: please do :D08:16
tbfSnuxoll: the orange is too intensive, and your color for dialog face risks to look pinkish on some monitors08:16
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silentRyuho, sorry, not sure about that, I've done very limited stuff with init scripts08:16
tbf...blame the RGB color modell08:16
silentRyuho, read up on runlevels and learn where to put the script08:16
tnnccan someone tell me what to look at when i boot up 7.04 and get the the login i login and it then crashes and reloads the login and i can then login without crash any ideas why this is happening08:16
Snuxolltbf: I blame bad color profiles08:17
Ryuhokay08:17
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BUDD}{Aanyone here useing a good gmail notifier with ubuntu that will check monitor two accounts at the same time08:17
montrevuxWho in here is using erc?08:17
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tbfSnuxoll: RGB is very bad at exactly reproducing brown shades08:17
goddamn_mac_manBUDD}{A: gmail supports POP access, any notifier that supports POP will worj with it08:17
SnuxollAt least those colors are toned down from my previous theme: http://www.box.net/shared/mrjm5rjtl208:17
silentBUDD}{A, thunderbird is nice08:17
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tbfSnuxoll: if a theme needs professional color calibration to look ok, it clearly doesn't fit as default theme.08:18
riotkittiethat theme would seriously be a godsend, if it were included.08:18
montrevuxI should upload my theme. :)08:18
tbfgah... why i am getting into arguing that easily?08:18
silentSnuxoll, honestly, change the orange to something softer and it's golden08:18
vjl323BUDD}{A: Does the Firefox Gmail Manager extension support multi-account notification? I know it supports multiple accounts; not sure if one is notified for just one account/active acct though.08:18
Snuxolltbf: It shouldn't need pro calibration, I'm using a old CRT monitor08:18
silentSnuxoll, maybe darken a little08:18
Snuxollsilent: OK, hold on08:18
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BUDD}{Ai use thunderbird  and love it but  i am looking for something that will go in the taskbar and will pop up when mail is recived08:19
tbfSnuxoll: and i am using a LCD08:19
SnuxollThe orange was a remnant from my previous theme that I forgot to change08:19
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BUDD}{Ai hade one and it was for only one account08:19
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Ryuhois 40 seconds for entering user password to finishing starting up the OS slow for 1.1GH CPU/1GB RAM computer08:19
vjl323BUDD}{A: how about: http://gmail-notify.sourceforge.net/08:19
zoidberg_guys i need some help getting my 3rd generation 40 gig ipod to work with feisty08:19
tbfSnuxoll: most LCDs i found really fuck up with brown shades08:19
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d2dchatmy friend can't ge tthe livecd to boot .. it complains with : cant access tty; job contorl turned off08:19
d2dchatanyone know what's wrong?08:19
zoidberg_it is a 3rd generation ipod so it syncs up vai a usb cable but charges up via a firewire cable08:19
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ArmedKingBUDD}{A: or mail-notification it is in the repository08:20
zoidberg_i already downloaded amarok08:20
BUDD}{Ayea had that one but only worked for one email account08:20
zoidberg_can anyone tell me what i should do now?08:20
silentSnuxoll, I'm surprised you still use the default layout... I have a single panel on the left08:20
riotkittieugh. i wish i could remember a specific site for fluxbox styles. :|  i am too lazy to boot my laptop up and find it :P08:20
tbfzoidberg_: throw it away and get more open hardware08:20
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zoidberg_plz can someone help me?08:20
Ryuhooh ya, what happened with that ipod being locked out from linux system08:20
Ryuhothing08:20
vjl323BUDD}{A: how about this one: http://www.debianadmin.com/gmail-notifier-for-ubuntu.html08:20
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tbfzoidberg_: yes, go to your electronic shop and give that crap back08:21
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Snuxollsilent: I'm quite happy with the default layout08:21
zoidberg_can anyone help me?08:21
BUDD}{Ais that the one in the repository that is the one i used08:21
peacepipejvextracted songbird tar.gz to desktop. Try some commands. Doesnt exist. How do I do this right08:21
peacepipejvquiet all of a sudden08:21
mistone_I went through a bunch of gtk themes and ended using the defualt, its pretty damn good08:21
tbfzoidberg_: hardware not designed for linux is one thing. but ipods are explictly designed not to work with linux - so why try to use them with linux?08:21
bullgard4I am making my first steps with phpMyAdmin and MySQL. I installed the NortWindMySQL database. How can I make it to display a table of it in form view, for example the table 'Customers'?08:21
riotkittiezoidberg_: have you tried the forums?08:21
vjl323BUDD}{A: it is different than the first URL i gave; have you tried both of them?08:21
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dA_ShArPHi all, I got some data to b trasfered from my Ubuntu machine to a Windows machine. Both are connected via LAN can somebody help me Transferring Data08:21
Ryuhois it normal to have ubuntu freez all the time?08:21
zoidberg_riotkittie, i dont know where to start08:22
riotkittieRyuho: no, not unless your hardware is really, really bad. :P08:22
RyuhoI mean, is fiesty not stable as some other distribution?08:22
silentSnuxoll, http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9053/screenshotax2.png08:22
BUDD}{Achecking now08:22
goddamn_mac_manRyuho: it is a development release right now don't forget08:22
RyuhoI freez every time I try to access network settings08:22
Ryuhoright after i type in my root password08:22
mistone_bullgard4: um and that has to do with ubuntu how?08:22
tbfzoidberg_: grep for hash58.zip. --- still not getting that you bought such crap hardware08:23
Snuxollsilent: coo08:23
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riotkittiezoidberg_: in that case, post a message of your own.08:23
BUDD}{Athe second one looks like what i want08:23
silentanyway, I'm out guys08:23
silentnight08:23
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riotkittienite silent08:23
Ryuhoanyone know a good distribution for old computers08:24
dA_ShArP riotkittie: I got some data to b trasfered from my Ubuntu machine to a Windows machine. Both are connected via LAN can you help me Transferring Data08:24
bwayneRydekull, damn small linux08:24
vjl323BUDD}{A: cool. :)08:24
SnuxollRyuho: Xubuntu08:24
bullgard4mistone_: The question I put is Ubuntu. Do you disagree?08:24
riotkittieRyuho: old computer being your tablet?08:24
Ryuhoriotkittie yes08:24
bwayneRyuho, damn small linux08:24
BUDD}{Awill it work with two accounts08:24
SnuxollAlright, I changed the selection color08:24
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Snuxollhttp://i22.tinypic.com/5p4bgi.png08:24
BUDD}{Adon't see anything there about two accounts08:24
riotkittiedA_ShArP: not really, sorry. the only thing i can tell you is to look into samba, which i have not messed with heavily myself08:24
riotkittie!samba dA_ShArP08:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about samba da_sharp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:24
riotkittie!samba | dA_ShArP08:24
peacepipejvextracted songbird to desktop but still having trouble installing from terminal\08:25
ubotudA_ShArP: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:25
zoidberg_tbf, what do u mean grep for hash58.zip? by the way i got this ipod for free and i'm dual booting the ipod with the native apple firmware and rockox linux...so give me some credit will ya08:25
vjl323BUDD}{A: not sure; I have not used it before. :( Just did some googling to see if I could help you out. I use Firefox's Gmail Manager for my gmail accounts and I've got Thunderbird configured to grab mail from all of them [so Thunderbird can notify for all accounts too then] 08:25
SnuxollNow that I think of it, my theme reminds me of the classic Human theme...08:25
whatevuhdA_ShArP - yes you can, get putty for windows w/pscp and transfer to any machine running ssh08:25
dA_ShArPriotkittie: thanks08:26
BUDD}{Ayea only when you open it i want one that will check in the background thunderbird will only check  if you start it not in the background08:26
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Coremonk22anyone here?08:26
Coremonk22that could give me some advice :] 08:26
riotkittieRyuho: ubuntu should be fine. i'm running it on a laptop with far lesser stats. maybe it's something with your config. but you may want to try xubuntu [which uses the lighterweight xfce desktop environment]  or install something like fluxbox08:26
dA_ShArP!putty08:26
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/08:26
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Ademan_why in the heck isn't the -P option available for grep in ubuntu when it is in centos and open suse and probably the rest of the lot?!08:26
Coremonk22I'm getting this error =[ "can't access tty; job control turned off" any advice?08:27
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vjl323BUDD}{A: I just keep Thunderbird running all day, minimized [or on mac, hidden] 08:27
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Ryuhoriotkittie i keep on hearing my tablet is good enough, but .... i look over and it's still frozen08:27
riotkittieAdeman_: because ubuntu isnt centos or opensuse or the rest of the lot   :x08:27
Ryuhoit's a clean install so i don't know what else to do08:27
vjl323BUDD}{A: the popup notifiers still come up when it is minimized.08:27
BUDD}{Awoulden't it use alot of power08:27
goddamn_mac_manBUDD}{A: http://tinyurl.com/yqcfyq08:27
Ademan_lol, but riotkittie, why would they disable it?! why?!08:28
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Coremonk22is there like08:28
Coremonk22some line i need to be in08:28
BUDD}{Ai got pop working thanks08:28
Coremonk22or somethin :] 08:28
tbfAdeman_: what does this option do?08:28
riotkittieRyuho: a clean install? and its still sluggish!?  try installing the xubuntu-desktop package [or just xfce4 - you can find either in the repos]  and see if that improves things. if it does, and you want to do away with GNOME, you can just remove it without having to do a reinstall08:28
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Ademan_tbf: enable perl regex syntax, considering perl compatible regex is the single most popular form of regex out there, this is just unacceptable08:29
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riotkittieyou can also install fluxbox. you'll be able to load them from the login screen Options > Sessions, or Sessions08:29
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tsukasawhats the difference between a link and a hardlink?08:29
Snuxollhttp://i22.tinypic.com/25tkqhu.png -> http://i22.tinypic.com/5p4bgi.png like the change?08:30
tbfzoidberg_: that hash58.zip contains the decryption routine. so i guess some discussion that mentions this zip also tells you how to use it08:30
dwxreaperademan: use perl08:30
riotkittiefluxbox is pretty minimal and takes a bit of getting used to, but it's lightning quick and i tend to use that on my desktop. There's also the Fluxbuntu distro, which is a third party project08:30
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riotkittieerr on my laptop. i do have it installed on my desktop, also, though :>08:30
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tsukasawhats the difference between a link and a hardlink?08:31
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Ryuhois 57 deg celcius hot?08:31
jotilAdeman_: try grep -e08:31
goddamn_mac_manRyuho: depends :P08:31
SnuxollRyuho: yes08:31
Ryuhomaybe it's freezing because of the temp08:31
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hellion0[laptop] i need some help getting my soundcard (cs4237b) working under Feisty.08:31
dwxreaperadman: or -G (nonperl regex)08:32
jotilor use perl08:32
hellion0[laptop] Ryuho: over 120 deg fahrenheit, so yeah, fairly hot.08:32
vjl323BUDD}{A: coolnessness...that seems to be the best, if you don't mind T-bird being running all the time08:32
tbftsukasa: technically a (symbolic) link just is a file saying "don't look at me, that this file"08:32
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Snuxollkahrytan needs to stop calling me dumb...08:32
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Ryuhowell maybe ill just not turn that computer on then lol08:32
tbftsukasa: whereas a hardlink is yet another directory entry pointing on the same file08:32
riotkittieoooooooh.  is your fan not coming on? >|08:32
nickrudSnuxoll: put him on /ignore08:32
Coremonk22can i get some help?08:33
Coremonk22:] 08:33
Snuxollnickrud: It's a joke, his exit text says "you are dumb"08:33
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tsukasatbf, so in practice when should or shouldnt you use one over the other08:33
nickrudSnuxoll: heh. Some joke08:33
SnuxollAm I the only one that bothered to translate that binary?08:33
Scunizi!ask | Coremonk2208:33
ubotuCoremonk22: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:33
Coremonk22ahhh ty08:33
Coremonk22<308:33
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Ryuhoactually xp runs fine on that tablet, so it can't be the only reason08:33
tbftbf: when deleting the file a symlink points to, the symbolic link becomes invalid08:33
Coremonk22!ask I'm getting the error "can't access tty; job control turned off" help would be appreciated =] 08:33
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SnuxollOops, he changed it to: can you read this08:34
tbftsukasa: when deleting the file a symlink points to, the symbolic link becomes invalid08:34
tbftsukasa: which doesn't happen with hardlinks08:34
BUDD}{Ahow much power does tbird use do you know off hand08:34
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tbftsukasa: but! hardlinks do not work over file system boundaries and they are harder to spot (for the user)08:34
SnuxollBUDD}{A: tbird or tbred?08:34
riotkittieRyuho: it /could/ be. linux can be really wonky when it comes to fans - if yours isnt turning on or turning on often enough.. then yea, you can have performance issues like the lag and freezes.08:34
BUDD}{Athunderbird08:34
goddamn_mac_manSnuxoll: Mozilla Thunderbird ;)08:34
bullgard4I am making my first steps with phpMyAdmin and MySQL. I installed the NortWindMySQL database. How can I make it to display a table of it in form view, for example the table 'Customers'?08:34
tsukasatbf, can hardlinks be used from one partition to another?08:34
tsukasaor is that a file system boundy08:35
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vjl323BUDD}{A: i don't know off-hand. :(08:35
tbftsukasa: so unless you have a good reason to use a hardlink, i'd go for symlinks08:35
Coremonk22!ask Help? :] 08:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask help? :]  - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:35
goddamn_mac_manbullgard4: let me check08:35
Ryuhoriotkittie i thought most fans were usually hardware controlled08:35
SnuxollBUDD}{A: No clue then, all I know is my t-bred a's vcore is like.....2v08:35
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BUDD}{Anp thanks guys08:35
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tbftsukasa: no, they cann't be used from one partition to another (that's what i've meant with filesystem boundaries)08:35
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Ryuho......nevermind i just realized i control the fan on this laptop08:35
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jotilSnuxoll: was it binary to ascii you did?08:35
Snuxolltsukasa: Like .hack?08:35
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tsukasaah okay08:36
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Snuxolljotil: yes08:36
tsukasaSnuxoll, yes08:36
babyman1737silent, you still there?08:36
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Snuxolltsukasa: So do I :)08:36
jotilSnuxoll: then this page says it is not even binary: http://www.theskull.com/javascript/ascii-binary.html08:36
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babyman1737I have the java jre1.6.0_03 downloaded to my desktop, does anyone know how I'd go about installing the package?08:36
nickrudCoremonk22: a known error, a sec & I'll give you a link08:36
Snuxoll01000011011000010110111000100000011110010110111101110101001000000111001001100101011000010110010000100000011101000110100001101 isn't binary?08:36
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BUDD}{A11mbs and 2% cpu if you leve thunderbird running minimized08:37
goddamn_mac_manbullgard4: select the database with teh drop down menu, select the table you want to view and then the "Browse" tab08:37
nickrudSnuxoll: no, it's a representation of binary ;)08:37
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Snuxollnickrud: True, lol08:38
jotillol08:38
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Snuxolleasy way to translate binary is with a hex editor :)08:38
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bullgard4goddamn_mac_man: I cannot find a 'Browse' tab.08:39
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jotilyou can do binary to hex without an editor, my problem is don't have the hex codes for the ascii characters memorized08:39
goddamn_mac_manbullgard4: what version of phpmyadmin are you using?08:39
seamus7Are there likely to be many changes to Gutsy RC1 and the final release coming in a couple days?08:40
Snuxollseamus7: Only bug fixes08:40
GuHHHcan anybody help? when i try to compile a file it says: "configure: error: libdnet not found" but i have libdnet-dev installed08:40
riotkittieseamus7: no.08:40
SnuxollGutsy had a feature freeze a while ago08:40
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bullgard4goddamn_mac_man: I believe it is version 5.0. How can I determine this? Using Synaptic?08:40
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seamus7that's whay i thought ... i installed it two days ago and have had great success with it08:40
goddamn_mac_manbullgard4: it shgould say on the login page08:41
Snuxollseamus7: It's ready, most show stopping bugs have been squashed08:41
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bullgard4goddamn_mac_man: Synaptic says: "4:2.9.1.1.-2ubuntu1"08:41
riotkittieugh08:42
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SnuxollAnyone know of a good open source 3D modeling program that ISN'T blender?08:42
[chr0n0s] hehehe... nice08:42
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nickrudCoremonk22: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51700408:43
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nickrudseamus7: 97mb downloading now08:43
[chr0n0s] 97mb :O08:43
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goddamn_mac_manbullgard4: when you log in to phpmyadmin, there's a drop down list of all the databases on the left. Select the database you want to browse from there and a list of tables should appear right below it. Click the one you want to edit and at the top of the right hand pane you'll see a row of tabs, the first of which is labelled "Browse" click that.08:44
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seamus7nickrud: ahhh good luck .. enjoy :)08:44
SnuxollSeriously, I might end up having to boot XP and get Bryce6 if I can't find a good OSS replacement that doesn't suck08:44
seamus7nickrud: i'm on a dell laptop e150508:44
nickrudseamus7: no, that's just the latest, I'm one of those blockheads that's been running gutsy since july08:44
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seamus7nickrud: ahhh i see ... was it very buggy back then ?08:45
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jotilSnuxoll: Maya runs on Linux afaik08:45
SnuxollIsn't Maya commercial software?08:45
jotilthere is a free version i think08:45
nickrudseamus7: nothing not fixable, or fixed quickly if really bad. I'm a debian unstable refugee, and sometimes I get squirrly if the software works too well08:46
SnuxollMay not be open source, but anything is better than blender..08:46
Evanleclol, blender not so great eh?08:46
SnuxollOK, can I export videos with Maya?08:46
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SnuxollEvanlec: NO, the UI is AWFUL08:46
BUDD}{Awhat is the command to open the repository list08:46
bullgard4goddamn_mac_man: When I move the cursor to the 'Browse' tab, it will change its form when over 'Browse' containing an 'x' symbol. Clicking on 'Browse' does not have any effect.08:47
Ryuhoya definatly something wrong.. tracerout is frozen08:47
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Ryuhoor the gui for it is08:47
nickrudBUDD}{A: system->admin->software sources08:47
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seamus7nickrud: what's major changes are coming in the next releases? do you know the plans?08:47
The_Joe_Can anyone help me set wireless up? I'm using a Belkin G+MIMO USB adapter, rt7308:47
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riotkittiei was going to install unstable the other day. >|08:47
jotilSnuxoll: the blender gallery looked okay08:47
nickrudseamus7: nothing more than what I read on the wiki.ubuntu.com and launchpad.net08:47
tsukasawhats the best rss reader?08:47
The_Joe_I've tried ndiswrapper and it hasn't helped08:47
BUDD}{Athanks08:47
goddamn_mac_mantsukasa: I use the one in Opera myself08:47
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nickrudriotkittie: it's a hoot, gotta configure *everything*08:47
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seamus7tsukasa: i just use google reader08:48
goddamn_mac_manbullgard4: I don't know what to say, it works for me08:48
tsukasagoddamn_mac_man, eh looking for something more stand alone08:48
tsukasanot web based08:48
Snuxolltsukasa: Liferea08:48
riotkittienickrud: gee, i'm sorry to be missing out :P08:48
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EvanlecSnuxoll, will this guide gimme the free version? 6.5? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6685908:48
montrevuxlol08:48
montrevuxSoooooo.08:48
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montrevuxI like lost my xchat08:48
riotkittieThe_Joe_: where did you get the driver from?08:48
SnuxollBRILLIANT!08:48
montrevuxI coudn't find it.08:48
goddamn_mac_mantsukasa: it's not web based, it's in the browser. I use Opera as my web browser so having the RSS reader built-in means one less standalone app to run08:48
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jotillol montrevux08:48
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nickrudriotkittie: haven't run unstable since I first put warty on a machine. It sat there for about a year, I'd boot it up and update occasionally, but eventually erased it08:48
SnuxollEvanlec: That's for HOARY, a little out of date....08:49
tech0007hwo do i know if i'm using swap?08:49
Coremonk22great, so my fix is to stick a floppy in to get rid of the error....its going ot be SO hard to find a floppy disk08:49
Coremonk22lmfao08:49
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montrevuxI have so many windows up that I couldn't find it.08:49
goddamn_mac_mantsukasa: top08:49
tsukasagoddamn_mac_man, haha i use firefox though. show me a vimperator plugin for opera and i might switch08:49
EvanlecSnuxoll, agreed...08:49
SnuxollOK, maybe blender has changed since I last used it, I might have to try it again...08:49
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nickrudCoremonk22: read thru, there are other fixes, but that's the funniest fix I ever read, agreed :)08:49
montrevuxBack to Opera disscussion?08:49
goddamn_mac_mantsukasa: ugh.08:49
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seamus7tsukasa: I then connect save the rss categories in google reader into my delicious bookmarks account which I can then access via the delicious toolbar in firefox as live rss feeds ... if that makes sense.08:50
SnuxollAlso, Synaptic need to be rewritten...08:50
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yellowirc.hanirc.org08:50
riotkittiei've got stable installed but i cant really bring myself to use it :|08:50
The_Joe_riotkittie: The CD it came with ^^08:50
Coremonk22i did a few of the other fixes i found, adding some params to the boot line08:50
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montrevuxWhat does Opera do that makes it a better browser than firefox?08:50
Coremonk22still nothin =[ ill keep tryin tho thx for the link haha, off to search for a floppy =P08:50
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goodtimesopera works on mobile phones08:50
nickrudCoremonk22: try all_generic_ide08:50
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montrevuxand Snuxoll, I'm already 30% closer to gettting Gutsy. :)08:50
riotkittieThe_Joe_: were there 9x/ME drivers, and 2K/xp drivers? and if so, did you try both sets?08:51
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Snuxollmontrevux: :)08:51
The_Joe_riotkittie: Nope, just 2k/XP08:51
SnuxollI'm gonna start selling Ubuntu PC's :)08:51
Coremonk22nickrud: as a boot param?08:51
Coremonk22at the end?08:51
tsukasagoddamn_mac_man, vimperator is quite a nice plugin08:51
nickrudCoremonk22: yes, I've heard that one recommended08:51
Coremonk22Snuxoll: could you get in trouble for doing that?08:51
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Coremonk22under the GNU?08:52
SnuxollCoremonk22: No08:52
Coremonk22hmph08:52
Coremonk22thats a good idea08:52
Coremonk22=] 08:52
SnuxollNothing wrong with selling the hardware08:52
seamus7Anyone use Yakuake in Gnome?08:52
Coremonk22u could make it into a linux awareness group08:52
goddamn_mac_mantsukasa: I like my browser without fucked up keybinding tyvm :)08:52
Coremonk22give out free junk boxes with linux on em08:52
SkinnyPuppy34Snuxoll: whos buyin?08:52
tsukasaseamus7, i use yeahconsole myself08:52
SnuxollI have 2 models specced already08:52
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Coremonk22got a website?08:52
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nickrudSnuxoll: try aptitude as a interactive app, synaptic tries to do that in a gui08:52
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SnuxollOne is a $600 Mini machine, the other is a $700 uber-tower08:52
seamus7tsukasa: i don't know that one ... what's it like?08:52
SnuxollCoremonk22: Not yet08:53
goodtimesy would anyone buy linux boxes from you?08:53
Coremonk22mini machines = ew. (no offense) lol08:53
EvanlecSnuxoll, is there any free alternative to blender?08:53
tsukasaseamus7, well, for one thing, if you spam show/hide it wont crash08:53
SnuxollEvanlec: I wish08:53
BUDD}{Afound the solution to my problem leave thunderbird running and use a app called alltray to tray it08:53
riotkittieThe_Joe_: For what it's worth, ralinks do seem to be better supported under 7.10, which will be released on the 18th if your are willing to update. i do not have a rt73, so i can't tell you if they're working well or not. alternatively, you can try compiling the rt73 or rt2x00 drivers from rt2x00.serialmonkey.com [.net?] . my adapter worked better when i recompiled the legacy module for my adapter, but ymmv. compiling rt2x00 will requi08:53
Coremonk22you know what you should do snuxoll, host ur web server etc from one of the machines u sell =] 08:53
Coremonk22its like, free advertising08:53
Coremonk22=D08:53
BUDD}{Athanks guy for all the help08:53
seamus7tsukasa: ahhhh that's always good08:53
tsukasaseamus7, bit of a pain to config but it works nicely for me08:53
SnuxollCoremonk22: I have a website that just needs to be set up, I need an initial custome too08:53
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The_Joe_riotkittie: Ahhh serialmonkey, I only found a CVS on there08:53
Coremonk22btw nickrud, i stuck a floppy in and its just hummin away 8-) seems to be working lol still at the loading screen. ill let u know here in a sec08:54
dA_ShAr3Hi all, I just got connected to my ubuntu machine from another windows using putty's ssh. I got logged in as a user. and i got the terminal. Buti dont understand how do i get the data from that ubunut box to windows one08:54
jotilSnuxoll: someone posted that he/she could install Maya 8.0 on Feisty using that guide08:54
The_Joe_riotkittie: I'm sure I can wait till Thursday08:54
SnuxollSeriously, if anyone here wants to buy an Uber $700 Ubuntu tower I can have it ready in 3 weeks08:54
bullgard4goddamn_mac_man: If I pressed on 'CheckAll' and then click on 'Browse' icon below the table, I obtain "MySQL returned an empty result set (i.e. zero rows). (Query took 0.0047 sec)". Does this mean that my NorthwindMySQL database does not have any entries at all?08:54
scguy318Coremonk22: LiveCD?08:54
nickrudCoremonk22: you're lucky you still have a floppy drive08:54
montrevuxSnuxoll, I've got 3 harddrives right now...1 SATA and 2 IDE. I have a Windows XP install on my SATA 120. and my ubuntu is on my Master IDE. The Slave is running extended with music. Both the IDEs are 80 GB and the SATA is 120. Whie I'm doing a clean install..I'm thinking about putting my ubuntu onto the SATA and reinstalling windows on the smaller drive. Think its worth it?08:54
SkinnyPuppy34Snuxoll: roflmao08:54
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Coremonk22hahahah its an old dell08:54
Coremonk22optiplex gx26008:54
Coremonk22wow08:54
cafuegoThat's terrible lead time, are you sourcing from Dll or something?08:54
Coremonk22it worked nickrud hahahaha08:54
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Coremonk22i cant believe that08:54
Coremonk22hahaha08:54
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dA_ShAr3scguy318:  just got connected to my ubuntu machine from another windows using putty's ssh. I got logged in as a user. and i got the terminal. Buti dont understand how do i get the data from that ubunut box to windows one please help08:55
Coremonk22No pun intended here, it was an old windows 95 boot disk hahahahahah08:55
nickrudThat fix belongs in a hall of fame somewhere08:55
montrevuxSnuxoll, because I plan on using Ubuntu as my sole OS, really.08:55
Coremonk22Whats your guys' outlook on MCE?08:55
Snuxollmontrevux: Then go for it08:55
goodtimesit will die a fiery death08:55
Scunizimontrevux, leave win where it is just resize the partition and make about 15 gigs for ubuntu.  use the master ide for /home.. now you have space.!08:55
goodtimesmythtv ftw08:55
Coremonk22lol08:55
SnuxollMythtv sucks, I hate to say it08:55
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nickrudscguy318: all_generic_ide is the right grub line addition, right?08:56
SnuxollSlow, bloated, doesn't work right, require MySQL08:56
montrevuxPartitioning sounds scary. :(08:56
scguy318nickrud: yes08:56
Snuxollmontrevux: Not really08:56
scguy318nickrud: for the dreaded tty08:56
dA_ShAr3scguy318: you understand my prob?08:56
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scguy318dA_ShAr3: i think you would use scp or something of the nature08:56
nickrudscguy318: yes, I swear I found a walk through using that once on google, but can't seem to find it again.08:56
Coremonk22can you really do all mce is cracked up to be? like the security system etc08:56
goddamn_mac_manWindows Media Centre is (without hacking) limited to MS codecs afaik. Even QuickTime + Front Row on the Mac can be extended with additional codecs...08:57
scguy318nickrud: the Launchpad bug for it has a nice long blah that has that08:57
dA_ShAr3scguy318: i dont know whats scp08:57
dA_ShAr3!scp08:57
ubotuSCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/08:57
nickrudscguy318: thanks08:57
montrevuxWilll the Ubuntu Disk be able to re-partition my windows drive?08:57
riotkittieho hum. disk space issues suck D:08:57
scguy318nickrud: I believe Gutsy has that issue resolved08:57
Coremonk22montrevux: yes08:57
scguy318nickrud: I had a machine that did that, booted it with Gutsy beta LiveCD no prob08:57
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Coremonk22goddamn_mac_man: I was talkin about linux mce08:57
nickrudCoremonk22: are you booting the gutsy live CD?08:57
Coremonk22yea08:57
Coremonk22why08:57
goddamn_mac_manI have WinSCP installed on one of my Win boxes but I find myself dropping to the command prompt and using pscp most of the time, heh08:58
montrevuxSnuxoll, how would I make the 80 GB drive my /home?08:58
seamus7Is it true that gksudo ought to be used when calling up a graphical app as root rather than sudo? So for instance gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ??08:58
goddamn_mac_manmontrevux: slap a partition on it and tell fstab to mount it as /home08:58
riotkittieseamus7: yes!08:58
nickrudCoremonk22: was wondering if it was only a feisty problem. Oh well, I'll add a macro for that one, I think I'm gonna need it08:58
Coremonk22haha08:58
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scguy318seamus7: yes08:58
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Ryuhohttp://www.ca-us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.4.1/installers/08:58
Coremonk22it seems to be a common problem08:58
Ryuhois this the thing to get08:58
Coremonk22i googled it and got like08:58
Coremonk2215 good results08:59
montrevuxgoddamn_mac_man, like etx2 or 3 and give it a mount point /home? Would that do it?08:59
Ryuhoif i want to install xubuntu if i already have ubuntu installed08:59
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SnuxollI'm makin' a website for my biz right now :)08:59
seamus7I try to do that but sometimes I notice there's a long delay sometimes for instance when I do gksudo nautilus08:59
tsukasaseamus7, combine quake console hud with console based music player08:59
tsukasa;)08:59
goddamn_mac_manmontrevux: yeah08:59
nickrudyeah. Coremonk22 if you ever hand out cd's, make sure it's the alternate install cd08:59
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Coremonk22whys that08:59
ianmcorvidaeRyuho: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop08:59
riotkittieRyuho: xfce is in the repos. you can download it via apt, or synaptic. if you have space, you may want to go for xubuntu-desktop  instead08:59
nickrudthey don't have that problem08:59
Coremonk22ahhh08:59
seamus7tsukasa: I don't get the allure of that combination ... :)08:59
nickrudor don't seem to08:59
Coremonk22u cant download those can u./08:59
Coremonk22they have to be ordered08:59
Ryuhothanks ianmcorvidae and riotkittie08:59
montrevuxgoddamn_mac_man, fstab...Wheres the config file for it?09:00
nickrudno, you can choose the alternate install as a download09:00
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Coremonk22ahhh09:00
tsukasaseamus7, desktop space ++;09:00
goddamn_mac_manmontrevux: /etc/fstab09:00
Coremonk22thx for the heads up =D09:00
tsukasaseamus7, plus you can run multiple consoles binded to different keys09:00
goddamn_mac_manmontrevux: I think there's a man page for fstab too09:00
Ryuhoi wish i knew unix :(09:01
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Coremonk22nickrud: make sure to tell people09:01
riotkittiei feel really goofy just handing people discs. i wish i could borrow space at the library and maybe get somebody smrter than myself to come in. have people bring their laptops. have a "hi, this is linux, let us help you get your feet wet" kind of thing.09:01
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Coremonk22that after they get into the live boot09:01
Coremonk22to remove the floppy09:01
Coremonk22when it was installing checking partitions09:01
Coremonk22it was hanging and reading the floppy09:01
seamus7tsukasa: i see ... alas I rarely get that heavily into multi tasking ... one of the reasons I disabled the compiz cube :)09:01
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Coremonk22i jus removed it and it zoomed right past it09:01
nickrudriotkittie: contact your local linux user group, they do that kind of thing regularly09:01
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riotkittienickrud: my local linux user group is like a zillion miles away :P ok, not that far but i dont drive so they may as well be09:02
Coremonk22invest in a bicycle :] 09:02
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nickrudcall them, set up an installfest at your library ;)09:02
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Coremonk22nickrud: u get what i said bout the floppy?09:02
nickrudCoremonk22: yep09:02
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riotkittieCoremonk22: i'm not peddling 30 miles both ways to get to a LUG :P09:02
buzzinflycould anyone help with a pppoa problem i have?09:03
Coremonk22riotkittie: in this day and age, u NEVER know09:03
riotkittieand plus, i've heard horror stories from females who have stumbled into LUGs and lived to tell the tale :o09:03
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seamus7Any of you use sessions to open up apps upon startup outside of the usual? if so what do you open?09:03
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nickrudwon't ride a half mile on a bike09:03
Coremonk22hahahahahahahah09:03
montrevuxSoooo....fstab looks very confusing. :(09:03
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Coremonk22if i have to ride a half mile on a bike, and for some reason cant drive09:04
Coremonk22i have to convince myself, it aint worth it09:04
riotkittiemontrevux: it's not, it's not. what are you confused about?09:04
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Snuxollmontrevux: fstab is not confusing09:04
dA_ShAr3!scp09:04
ubotuSCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/09:04
borgista1/2 mile on a bike is nothing.09:04
montrevuxUUID=f4ef1100-97a5-421e-a889-e573ddb991fd none            swap    sw              0       009:04
montrevux/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       009:04
goddamn_mac_manmontrevux: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html09:04
montrevuxThe whole UUID thing...09:05
Merlintoshhello gys (anyone can Help) with refering me to a shaping solution?09:05
Coremonk22nickrud &co.: im gonna go finish settin up my box, ya'll have a good night and preciate all ur help!09:05
riotkittiehalf a mile on a bike is everything when you smoke a pack a day.  i'd get like three feet, fall off in the road, and pray somebody ran me over to end the agony :P09:05
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nickrudCoremonk22: you also09:05
cafuegoriotkittie: weak09:05
goddamn_mac_manmontrevux: you don't need the UUID afaik09:05
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Snuxollmontrevux: Ignore UUIDS, just use /deb/hd??09:05
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cafuegoriotkittie: I used to smoke a pack a day *AND* cycle a good 24km a day as well09:05
borgistariotkittie: Smoking & riding: might as well shoot yourself in the foot.09:05
nickrudriotkittie: its plain fear for me. I used to commute in seattle, at least there they honked09:05
Scunizimontrevux, to find the uuid of your drives use blkid in a terminal09:06
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sauvinOr scout around in /dev/drives09:06
sauvin(iirc)09:06
riotkittienickrud: haha.09:06
Ryuhodude apt-get is awesome09:06
Merlintoshanyone around here worked on shaping solutions09:06
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sauvinI was wrong - /dev/disk09:07
riotkittieborgista: actually its not that bad :P i used to ride at least 5mi a day once upon a time.09:07
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riotkittieRyuho: indeed it is.  although it has made me terribly lazy. :|09:07
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borgistariotkittie: Well, it's not recommendable.09:07
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ScuniziMerlintosh, I shape solutions sequentially several sessions a day.09:07
Ryuhowould be a horrible place for something to go wrong09:07
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rob:)09:08
ScuniziMerlintosh, probably not the solutions you're thinking of though.. :)09:08
nickrudultimate !enter there09:08
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buzzinflyanyone know why my pon command sometimes fails to execute in /etc/rc.local?09:08
Coremonk22nickrud: my mistake, its 3am here im tired lol i told u i was installing gutsy09:08
Ryuhoawe man.. i've always wanted to try wine... how does it run on slow computers09:08
Coremonk22im installing fiesty haha09:08
Coremonk22sorry bout that09:08
nickrudCoremonk22: yes, and ok!09:09
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Lr5Java/flash sound doesn't seem to work in firefox in 7.10, not even with FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"09:09
Lr5Anyone knows if there's some way to solve it?09:09
jotilLr5: 32bit?09:09
Lr5jotil: yah09:10
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nickrudbuzzinfly: you could probably see what's wrong in /var/log/syslog09:10
jotilaww man09:11
montrevuxSnuxoll, 50%09:11
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jotilbad news i guess :(09:11
buzzinflyyes, I can see that it complains about "No such device", however if a log in and execute the same command it will work.09:11
jotilbad news i guess :(09:11
babyman1737Lr5, I got flash to work, but not java09:11
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Lr5babyman1737: did it work in earlier versions?09:12
montrevuxIs there a way to have one of your windows drives mounted on boot? like permanently?09:12
Snuxollmontrevux: :)09:13
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SnuxollI'm setting up an osCommerce shop for my PC's :)09:13
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buzzinflysometimes rc.local will execute as expected and sometimes it won't. it's a USB ADSL modem, so maybe the usb device is not being initialised in time for rc.local to execute.09:13
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nickrudbuzzinfly: some of the scripts in /etc/init.d/ get run in parallel, so it's likely that one that's necessary for ppp hasn't completed sometimes09:14
Ryuhoi hate my dorm connection09:14
Ryuhostupid packet shaper09:14
nickrudbuzzinfly: or as you said :)09:15
buzzinflyis there a way to guarantee the usb device is ready?09:15
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peacepipejvOne more time, disconnected. Songbird, extracted to desktop. Not found in terminal. What now09:15
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nickrudbuzzinfly: you can add a sleep command to the rc.local, delay the pon09:15
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buzzinflymessy hack09:16
nickrudbuzzinfly: a hack, but I'm not real strong on checking the status of udev09:16
X-tremAt_RavenHi! I tried to set up my soft modem and now I got my sound card not working. Is there any method to set sound card more or less automatically?09:16
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nickrudbuzzinfly: or do a loop, waiting for whatever dev you're using to appear09:17
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soulchildhow do i activate the kdm theme ???09:17
Snuxollhttp://nuxoll.us.eu.org Future home of NxPC09:17
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soulchildhow do i activate the kdm theme ???09:17
dA_ShAr3!man09:17
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal09:17
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dA_ShAr3ubotu ;)09:17
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Snuxollsoulchild: Why are you asking about kdn in #ubuntu?  Take it to #ukubuntu09:18
Frogzoobuzzinfly: in /etc/network/interfaces  add a line 'pre-up /sbin/ifup eth0' of whatever09:18
Snuxollnickrud: It's a free domain09:18
Ryuhoi wonder who actually uses kubuntu09:18
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nickrudSnuxoll: lol09:18
peacepipejvInstalling songbird, extracted to desktop. Not found in terminal. What now09:18
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Ryuhowhat what09:18
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nickrudpeacepipejv: cd ~/Desktop09:18
Ryuhooh lol i just got it Snuxoll09:18
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SnuxollRyuho: ?09:19
SnuxollYou just got what?09:19
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buzzinflyFrogzoo: thanks for that, i guess eth0 needs replacing with ppp0?09:19
Ryuhofree domain09:19
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SnuxollRyuho: oh, lol09:19
montrevuxSnuxoll, would this be a good entry in fstab for my sataharddrive if i wanted it permantly mounted in my users folder?09:20
montrevuxSnuxoll, /dev/sda1/home/montrevux/satadiskntfsdefaults0009:20
goddamn_mac_manlooks alright to me09:20
Snuxollmontrevux: Why are you using ntfs for your /home ?09:20
SnuxollOh, nm09:20
Ryuhoi wanna make a domain ... like .zz09:20
SnuxollYeah, that would work09:20
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montrevuxIts my windows harddrive.09:20
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newbie2655342hello09:21
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X-tremAt_RavenAnyone knows how to bring snd_hda_intel back?09:21
newbie2655342how do i install the drivers for a radeon xpress1200 in gutsy09:21
Ryuhoi wonder why it's downloading thunderbird09:21
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freakerhello, i have a question if i need to reinstall the 7.10 final release on my 7.10 beta  (in two days)?09:21
jotilX-tremAt_Raven: where did it go?09:21
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goddamn_mac_mannewbie2655342: with the restricted drivers thingy I'd imagine09:22
Frogzoobuzzinfly: no, somewhere you see a line 'iface dsl-provider inet dhcp' (this is your ppp interface) - add the eth0 within there, or whichever interface is your dsl09:22
Flannelfreaker: no09:22
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freakertnx a lot09:22
newbie2655342that didn't work09:22
newbie2655342all i got was vesa09:22
Frogzoobuzzinfly: assuming you're using pppoe?09:22
goddamn_mac_mannewbie2655342: that's ATi in Linux for you, lol09:22
freakeri'll just get the needed updates ?09:22
Flannelfreaker: right09:22
newbie2655342yeah, i know09:22
SnuxollWow, Oscommerce sucks...09:23
X-tremAt_Ravenjotil: I tried to set up winmodem and it, as I understood, disabled snd_hda_intel. And my sound card isn't working.09:23
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kwartjereinstalling is only ever needed when you're /home is a complete mess, or the upgrade fails09:23
freakerand can i erase from all my system all the folders connected to previouse versions of the kernel ?09:23
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kwartjewhy would you wanna do that freaker?09:23
Flannelfreaker: don't erase the folders.  Remove the packages09:23
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montrevuxmount: mount point /home/montrevux/satadisk does not exist09:23
Snuxollmontrevux: you need to run mkdir /home/montrevux/satadisk first09:24
goddamn_mac_manmontrevux: mkdir -p /home/montrevux/satadisk09:24
montrevuxwow. :D09:24
Frogzoofreaker: dpkg --purge linux-image-###  (just don't remove all kernels or you'll be stuck)09:24
filip__My webcam doesn't work (pb easynote MX51)09:24
montrevuxI'm a n00b at this on so many levels.09:24
jotilX-tremAt_Raven: where did you disable it from? how exactly?09:24
Frogzoo!docs | montrevux09:24
ubotumontrevux: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com09:24
freakerwhat does purge do ?09:25
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kwartjeclear config files09:25
Frogzoofreaker: man dpkg09:25
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freakeri meant if it leases only that one or erases one spesific ?09:25
X-tremAt_Ravenjotil: I just installed a package hsfmodem_7.68.00.01full_k2.6.20_16_generic_ubuntu_i386.deb09:26
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filip__Is somebody over here does have any experience with the build in webcam in a pb easynote MX 5109:26
montrevuxSo no I can't open the drive unless I'm root. hmm back to the fstab file09:27
kwartjeyou can use synaptic as well to remove all the old kernels09:27
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goddamn_mac_manmontrevux: you want users in the options section of your fstab line09:27
kwartjefreaker: just leave the newest kernel09:27
Ryuhohttp://www.dnaco.net/~vogelke/pictures/Complete-Guide-To-Cows2.txt i don't get it09:27
freakerlol09:27
freakeri read it...09:27
tech0007in lm-sensors, how do i know if my cpu temp is temp1 or temp2?09:27
goddamn_mac_mantech0007: you double check with your BIOS09:28
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X-tremAt_Ravenjotil: I am runnig Feisty Fawn with this hardware: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_Inspiron_640m#Soundcard09:28
freakerbut how do i show all the kernells installed ?09:28
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Flannelfreaker: they're all "linux-image-*" packages09:28
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Flannelfreaker: so, scroll down to the linux-images09:28
jotilX-tremAt_Raven: did you try: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp09:28
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jotilX-tremAt_Raven: press ctrl+c to quit09:29
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X-tremAt_Ravenjotil: Permission denied (even with sudo)09:29
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jotilif and when you start freaking out because of the sound09:29
peacepipejvnic: thx for the help09:29
freakertnx a lot guys09:29
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jotileven with sudo?09:30
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gryfie__hi09:30
gunashekar::09:30
X-tremAt_Ravenjotil: Tried under root: it does nothing. What I supposed to see?09:30
gunashekarO:-)09:31
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gryfie__can anyone tell me the most important advantage about ubuntu compared to debian ?09:31
gryfie__(or the most important advantageS ;) )09:31
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jotilsee nothing09:32
jotilhear weird noise09:32
montrevuxDo I have to log in and out for fstab premission changes to take effect?09:32
Flannelgryfie__: regular releases, lots of support avenues, the "it just works" idea (sane default configs)09:32
X-tremAt_Ravenjotil: hear no noise.09:32
SnuxollI seriously need to find a good, free PHP host...09:32
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saelynhSnuxoll: is your futur is "free" ?09:33
Geoffrey2Ubuntu rolls out a major update twice a year....Debian, from what i understand, rolls out a major update whenever they get around to it09:33
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Snuxollsaelynh: ?09:33
joey_hi09:34
jotilX-tremAt_Raven: install alsa? alsa-base alsa-utils and alsa-tools? also gnome-alsamixer09:34
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saelynhSnuxoll:  what your site will host :) ?09:34
filip__hello, sorry to disturb but does anyone knows how to get a build in webcam in an easynote MX51 working?09:34
Snuxollsaelynh: Store09:34
saelynhah :/09:34
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novato_brfilip__, plz09:35
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SnuxollI really need to just get the money and make a VPS...09:35
novato_bri need some information about your webcam09:35
saelynhthere was http://www.tuxfamily.org/en/main09:35
Snuxoll*get a VPS09:36
saelynhbut only if your site is related with free software09:36
filip__ok, it's a "i don't know" that is build in in a packard bell easynote MX5109:36
SkinnyPuppy34What is in non GPL emerald themes?09:36
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X-tremAt_Ravenjotil: Installed all of these. Do I need to restart to view if it worked?09:36
novato_brfilip__, would you paste the dmesg log on www.pastebin.ca ?09:36
Snuxollsaelynh: I'm going to be selling Ubuntu PC's09:36
filip__K09:37
jotilyou need not. restart alsa.09:37
saelynhSnuxoll: try09:37
Snuxollsaelynh: ???09:37
montrevuxDo I have to log in and out for fstab premission changes to take effect?09:37
X-tremAt_Ravenjotil: How?09:37
scguy318montrevux: fstab mount settings? no09:37
scguy318montrevux: just do sudo mount -a09:38
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saelynhit has a relation with free software, so if you want to be hosted on tuxfamily, try :D I don't promise anything but try cost nothing09:38
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X-tremAt_Ravenjotil: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart - nothing happened09:40
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randomwalkerhi, i found this in my apache logs, does it look like my machine has been rooted? :(09:40
randomwalker[Sun Oct 14 05:48:50 2007]  [error]  [client 210.213.86.25]  Invalid method in request \\x8a\\x89\\xab\\xe7\\x8e\\xfbEx=\\x81\\xabHkh\\"\\x94\\x7f\\x9b\\x05\\xc9M\\xd7\\xaf\\x0e\\x84\\xee\\x19b@\\xa7\\xc2\\x98\\x1e\\xbf\\xe5\\xaccK&09:40
randomwalker[Sun Oct 14 07:35:09 2007]  [notice]  SIGUSR1 received.  Doing graceful restart09:41
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Scunizirandomwalker, you might ask that in #ubuntu-server09:42
jotilX-tremAt_Raven: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto09:42
cafuegorandomwalker: No, looks like someone tried to abuse it but failed, and the server was restarted by logrotate.09:42
randomwalkercafuego, thanks!09:43
jotilX-tremAt_Raven: but before you do that, run gnome-alsamixer09:43
jotiland see if all sound is unmuted09:43
jotiland then try playing something09:44
X-tremAt_Ravenjotil: Thanx a lot!!!09:44
X-tremAt_Ravenjotil: alsamixer failed09:44
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jotilgnome-alsamixer09:44
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X-tremAt_Ravenjotil: I mean gnome-alsamixer failed09:44
jotilerm09:45
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jotildid you install it?09:45
jotili guess you did09:45
jotilok reboot and see09:45
jotilif that doesn't work09:46
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jotilcheck the guide09:46
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riotkittieis there a way to make the login screen stop asking if you want to make a session default when you switch? :|09:46
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X-tremAt_Ravenjotil: Already checking the guide. Thanx.09:47
X-tremAt_Ravenjotil: OK, I'll try to restart and if it fails use the guide.09:48
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Snuxoll'night all09:48
riotkittienite Snuxoll09:48
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crossbonesOMG OMG OMG09:48
crossboneshi09:48
crossbonesIm usin the linuxtard09:48
riotkittieuh.09:49
riotkittiedo trolls never sleep? :|09:49
cafuegoNope09:49
crossbonesnever09:49
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cafuegothey move a timezone every hour09:49
nanonymeriotkittie, i think they're like Neo. they troll even when asleep09:49
WaltzingAlongcrossbones: linuxtard 1.2 or 2.3?09:49
crossbones2.309:49
riotkittienanonyme: heh09:49
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WaltzingAlongcrossbones: 64bit or 32bit?09:50
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crossbones64 bit09:50
WaltzingAlongcrossbones: any support question about it?09:50
crossbonesI need to make wireless work09:50
crossbonesit doesnt09:50
cafuegoWell, we can't help you, this is #ubuntu, not #linuxtard.09:50
crossboneshow do I make the wireless networkingz connect to the internetwork09:51
crossbonesubuntu 7.10 beta09:51
cafuegoThe beta is supported in #ubuntu+109:51
dgjones!beta | crossbones09:51
ubotucrossbones: Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) Release Candidate information and release notes can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc - ISOs and Torrents at http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ - If you regularly update, then you're running the latest version - The RC is development software and as such unstable, support *ONLY* in #ubuntu+109:51
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riotkittie i miss the good days when trolls had the decency to at least be slightly amusing09:52
karmelekjoin #ubuntu+109:52
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riotkittiecafuego: perhaps it was my being in one of those conditions that caused them to be slightly amusing, now that  i think of it09:53
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riotkittiewow. nobody has problems at 4am. :P09:53
crossbonesfuckin druggie09:53
Scareyriotkittie: how exactly did trolls became a part of a Ubuntu chat?09:53
Frogzooriotkittie: if trolls exist, so does santa claus09:54
cafuego!ohmy | crossbones09:54
ubotucrossbones: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.09:54
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crossbonesMY fAMILY BEATS ME09:54
riotkittieScarey: one joined the channel.09:54
Scareyriotkittie: ahh.. missed that part.09:54
cafuegoWith good reason, I'd say.09:54
Frogzoocrossbones: -> #ubuntu+1 for 7.10 beta09:55
goodtimeswhere can I adjust the default programs that are used for different file extentions?09:55
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crossboneswhen does it go non beta?09:55
Frogzoo!gutsy09:55
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information09:55
dgjones18th october09:55
goddamn_mac_mancrossbones: 18th apparently09:55
nooblar!mdadm09:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mdadm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:55
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riotkittiegoodtimes: i do it in nautilus09:56
cafuegogoodtimes: Right click a file, Properties > Opn With...09:56
reisihellou, has anyone noticed that it has become impossible to use subversion over https:// urls?09:56
goddamn_mac_mancrossbones: but, like all Linux distros, it'll always be in a perpetual beta stat :P09:56
riotkittieright click on files > properties ...09:56
goddamn_mac_manstate*09:56
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goodtimesthx riotkittie09:57
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riotkittieyw, goodtimes09:57
cafuegopfff09:58
riotkittiefffp09:58
crossbonesU BONE 209:58
nanonymegoddamn_mac_man, not really. ubuntu stable changes so slowly it makes people cry :) i often tend to stay altogether at testing branches09:58
crossbonesget it??09:58
crossbonesU09:58
crossbonesBoNE09:58
crossbonestwo09:58
cafuegocrossbones: Would you mind going outside and trolling a tree or something?09:59
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nanonymealthough i think i'll stop that at hardy and will just backport packages i need09:59
Cyber_Stalkercould some one help me? i get "The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.09:59
Cyber_StalkerYou can remove the volume control from the panel by right-clicking the speaker icon on the panel and selecting "Remove From Panel" from the menu." at startup aswell as "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."09:59
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crossbonesonly if I can butter your bread cafuego10:00
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antleris there a channel for mint_linux?10:00
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scguy318antler: #mint I think10:00
scguy318no10:00
riotkittieCyber_Stalker: open a terminal, type lspci and look for audio or multimedia controller. is one found?10:01
antlerhm, 3 users on #mint10:01
scguy318antler: i'm not sure actually10:01
antlerheheh10:01
Cyber_Stalkerriotkittie, i get alot of stuff back10:01
antlerman, mint is purdee.10:01
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riotkittieCyber_Stalker: then lspci | grep audio10:01
paralepi guess i'll dual with ubuntu though10:01
Cyber_Stalker00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)10:01
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Cyber_Stalkerriotkittie, lspci | grep audio10:03
Cyber_Stalkeroops10:03
Cyber_Stalkerriotkittie, 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)10:03
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WaltzingAlongantler: /list10:04
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tech0007when my system locks up, shld i jst turn do a hard shutdown then reboot? s there an easier way to do it in ubuntu?10:04
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riotkittieCyber_Stalker: do you have onboard sound + an actual sound card?10:05
antlerWaltzingAlong: yeah. i'm in xchat ; network menu / channels. same thing, i guess.10:05
Cyber_Stalkeryes riotkittie10:05
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goddamn_mac_mantech0007: there is a way to get a kernel panic'd system to shut down gracefully (Magic SysRq) but probably easier to just push the reset button :P10:05
riotkittieCyber_Stalker: reboot. go into BIOS and disable your onboard sound.10:06
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Cyber_Stalkerumm ok10:06
soundrayI think he meant "thank you, riotkittie".10:06
WaltzingAlongtech0007: if it locked up then it locked up. perhaps though just X has frozen or an app has which makes X stick. you could switch to a tty such as with ctrl+alt+f1, then admin from there, perhaps closing the app that had run away10:06
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riotkittiealt + sys req with the following keys R S E U B (alt+sysreq+ R, alt+sysreq+S and so on)10:07
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riotkittiesoundray: hee.10:07
tech0007riotkittie...what does that do?10:07
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Toast`that's a secret10:07
goddamn_mac_manriotkittie: it causes the system to go through the shutdown motions10:08
goddamn_mac_mantech0007 I meant, sorry10:08
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allami wnt to use yahoo messenger in ubuntu7.4,why???10:08
goddamn_mac_manallam: pidgin10:08
allamhow?10:08
WaltzingAlongallam: messenger.yahoo.com for yahoo's messenger10:08
tech0007goddamn_mac_man....so it do alt+sysrq+R+S+E+U in that order?10:09
goddamn_mac_manwait, it might still be gaim in feisty...10:09
WaltzingAlongallam: otherwise there are plenty of programs that allow access to the yahoo im network. pidgin (gaim), kopete, and so on10:09
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gutsyNLhello there10:10
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Cyber_Stalkerdid riotkittie just leave?10:10
soundraygutsyNL: Hi. Didn't you want to join #ubuntu+1 ?10:10
soundrayCyber_Stalker: yes10:10
gutsyNLi am running the newest gutsy, do you all notice the absense of the startup sound?10:10
Cyber_Stalkerwtf10:10
gutsyNLah yes10:10
soundray!gutsy | gutsyNL10:10
ubotugutsyNL: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information10:10
Cyber_Stalkerhe is busy helping me and then tells me to restart so that he can quit...10:10
goddamn_mac_mangutsyNL: nope, mine is still "Battlecruiser operational!" :P10:11
gutsyNLsorry other channel..10:11
gutsyNL:P10:11
soundrayCyber_Stalker: you're making a gender assumption there10:11
tech0007!ohmy | Cyber_Stalker10:11
ubotuCyber_Stalker: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.10:11
Cyber_Stalkersoundray, what was his quit reason if you dont mind?10:11
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peacepipejvStill having trouble w/Songbird10:12
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soundrayCyber_Stalker: I don't live in her mind, but I'll hazard a guess: you suddenly quit without any acknowledgement of her help, so she didn't feel appreciated.10:12
peacepipejvcant ./configure10:12
nooblarsh configure10:12
Cyber_Stalkerlol ok wat eva10:12
goddamn_mac_manpeacepipejv: probably missing the toolchain10:12
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peacepipejvim able to execute a file inside Songbird folder however10:13
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peacepipejvSongbird opens10:13
tech0007goddamn_mac_man....so it do alt+sysrq+R+S+E+U in that order?10:13
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goddamn_mac_manpeacepipejv: sure it even has a configure script? look at any README or INSTALL files in the source dir10:13
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peacepipejvam I right to say that doesnt mean its installed10:13
goddamn_mac_mantech0007: something like that10:13
tech0007goddamn_mac_man...thnx10:14
goddamn_mac_mantech0007: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key10:14
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peacepipejvdont see a configure script. just some .js10:15
soundraypeacepipejv: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/songbird#10:15
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nooblargee wow! this magic sysrq deal is great information.10:16
goddamn_mac_manthe kernel has to be compiled to use it though afaik10:16
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goddamn_mac_mannooblar: http://www.google.com.au/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=the+answer+to+life,+the+universe+and+everything&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 <- it gets the important ones right though :P10:17
WaltzingAlongnooblar: sometimes 2+2 does = 610:17
tech0007Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring10:17
WaltzingAlongnooblar: especially when referring to vectors10:17
nooblarWaltzingAlong: what i said10:17
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CorpseFeede1hello10:18
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CorpseFeede1am I connected now?10:19
FrogzooCorpseFeede1: it seems likely10:19
soundrayCorpseFeede1: I can read you, but it's somewhat faint10:19
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CorpseFeede1Oh crap.. now I've got a ghost :(10:19
soundrayCorpseFeede1: strike yourkeys harder10:19
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tech0007CorpseFeede1...loud n clear:-D10:19
papskhi all10:19
papsk'm new here10:20
soundray!howdy | papsk10:20
ubotupapsk: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!10:20
papskthanks....was up?10:20
soundray!ubuntu | papsk10:20
ubotupapsk: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com10:20
papskwhere from10:20
papskI'm using it10:20
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soundraypapsk: this is not a chitchat channel. Join #ubuntu-offtopic for that10:21
papskYes...I have a problem with printing10:21
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soundray!elaborate | papsk10:21
ubotupapsk: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)10:21
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papski have down loaded RPM files on desk top10:22
pommerhi...does beryl work with ubuntu?10:22
dgjones!rpm | papsk10:22
ubotupapsk: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)10:22
pommerjust checked out images on utube... darn nice10:22
soundray!beryl | pommer10:22
ubotupommer: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects10:22
papskMy printer is Canon Pixm 188010:22
goddamn_mac_manpapsk: you want .debs for Ubuntu ;)10:22
nooblar!alien10:22
Nitecatpommer: Yes it does10:22
pommeryeah. it looks awesome10:22
CorpseFeederYay! my ghost is dead... now who thinks they can help me to install video drivers for Radeon R250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] ?10:22
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pommerbut how do i install it?10:22
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soundraypommer: help in #ubuntu-effects10:22
goddamn_mac_manCorpseFeeder: try the restricted drivers doodad10:22
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Nitecatpommer: are you using Feisty Fawn?10:23
soundraypapsk: which version of ubuntu do you have?10:23
tech0007!doodad | :-D10:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about doodad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:23
papskYa..I received a mail from John and Tried to folow the same, but, RPM are not getting converted to deb10:23
darkchr0n0sCorpseFeeder : get drivers from ati.amd.com10:23
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papskversion 7.110:23
pommeryes im useing feisty fawn10:23
goddamn_mac_mandarkchr0n0s: 7.04+ handle that for you now, it's neat10:23
Nitecatpapsk: what are you trying to install?10:23
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CorpseFeedergoddamn_mac_man: it's not as simple as that. this card isn't supported by the restricted drivers doodad.. I need to install drivers form the ati site, but last time I attempted I f#$@ed it up and couldn't start gdm and had to re-install form scratch :(10:24
soundrayNitecat: papsk needs drivers for a Canon PIXMA ip188010:24
peacepipejvsoundray.: seems to be working. Why this way?10:24
papskJohn asked me to install allien first, that was successfully installed, second step10:24
papskI stucked up10:24
pommerberyl will work on fiesty fawn right?10:24
Nitecatpommer: apt-get install beryl emerald-themes10:24
soundraypeacepipejv: you'd have to ask the developers.10:24
pommerim new to linux10:25
pommerdo i type that into the terminal?10:25
CorpseFeederdarkchr0n0s: last time I tried i messed it all up and couldn't start gdm...10:25
pommerive had linux a day10:25
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soundraypommer: familiarize yourself with ubuntu & how to install software first. Ubotu will send you a few private messages10:25
soundray!faq > pommer10:25
soundray!software > pommer10:25
peacepipejvsoundray: right. probably missing scripts10:25
soundray!cli > pommer10:25
goddamn_mac_manCorpseFeeder: You shouldn't really need the proprietary drivers on those older cards, the r2x0 chips are supported by the open source drivers I believe10:26
peacepipejvI jus like things to make sense10:26
FlexyjerkovTrying to update my geforce 4 drivers on ubuntu as i am stuck in 1024x768 when i want to use 1680x1050 but when i try install drivers i get a error bout x server. any help?10:26
pommeris linux difficult to get into?10:26
papskso what to do?10:26
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tech0007pommer....its patience you need10:26
goddamn_mac_manFlexyjerkov: you have to futz with the modelines for those I believe10:26
soundraypapsk: is your printer connected via USB?10:26
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Nitecatpommer: just takes time and study.  it repays everything you put into it manyfold10:26
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papskyes sir10:26
pommerthanks10:26
pommercan you build on linux?10:26
Nitecatftp://download.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/linux/10:27
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soundraypommer: please read the FAQ10:27
CorpseFeedergoddamn_mac_man: it's not supported properly - some stuff simply doesn't work like no text in that tux penguin racer thingy game and the TV out doesn't work etc...10:27
pommerk...thanks10:27
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CorpseFeederI have to go for 5 minutes then I will be back to discuss making this video card work properly....10:28
soundraypapsk: I would expect ubuntu to recognize and install it automatically. Can you just ensure that your printer is on and do a plug cycle (pull the USB plug & insert it back)10:28
Nitecatpommer: The short answer is yes.10:28
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tech0007papsk.....'lsusb' you should see ur printer10:28
papskUbuntu recognises the printer10:29
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Flexyjerkovgoddamn_mac i'm new to linux10:29
Flexyjerkovnot sure how to install drivers10:29
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papskbut it doesn't have drivers for ip1880 drivers10:30
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soundraypapsk: did you get a message to that effect?10:30
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Nitecat"- for Canon PIXMA IP1200 can be used driver Canon PIXMA IP2200 and for Canon PIXMA IP1880 can be used driver Canon PIXMA IP1800 series."10:30
papsknop10:30
papskoooooh10:30
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soundrayNitecat: that would solve it, if gutsy provided the 1800 series drivers... but it doesn't seem to. (papsk)10:31
papskok. i'll try, are you here till the time?10:31
Nitecatpapsk: You're on your own, tho.  I just googled that for you.  I10:32
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soundraypapsk: with a bit of patience, you will find help here at any time.10:32
NitecatI must go.10:32
Flexyjerkovso how do i get ubuntu to work in 1680 x 105010:32
Nitecatunfortunately10:32
Flexyjerkovas with my wide screen 1024 look silly10:32
Nitecatgoodnight everyone, sorry to pop in and out10:33
soundray!fixres > Flexyjerkov, please read the private message from ubotu10:33
papskThanks, I'm in process to install the printer right away and take a test page10:33
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pvhSo... anyone here ever formatted their ext partition to fat32 by mistake?10:34
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Flexyjerkov2well ill have to take alook at it when i'm home tonight lol10:35
soundraypvh: fortunately not. Why, is that what happened to you?10:35
Flexyjerkovin work now but hey...10:35
tech0007pvh...is that your root partition?10:35
pvhsoundray: yep.10:35
pvhtech0007: yep.10:35
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papskhey, i didnot find ip1200 drivers in the default list of drivers in the list, the list starts from i200010:35
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papskor i1800 drivers10:35
pvhsoundray: at the moment, i am completely and utterly screwed.10:36
tech0007pvh...is that a dell10:36
pvhtech0007: acer.10:36
soundraypvh: oh, that was my next question, how did you format...10:36
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pvhtech0007: i installed xp, which went to F: because ubuntu already had the first partition10:36
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pvhtech0007: but mo drivers worked, so i put in my system restore disk to see if they were there.10:36
papskhellow10:36
tech0007pvh....if u want to dual boot..u install xp first then ubuntu10:36
papskis there any body can answer my question?10:37
soundraypvh: unfortunately, I don't think there's much you can do, except employ forensic experts for thousands of <insert your favorite currency unit>10:37
kevsthabesthey.. anyone know if the newest kernel includes CFS scheduler or do i still need to patch?10:37
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pvhsoundray: actually, that's not true10:37
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pvhsoundray: there are a number of excellent resources available10:37
pvhsoundray: unfortunately i'm not sure which to pick10:37
soundraypvh: oh, so you just came here to chat about it.10:37
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soundraypapsk: I said you need to have some patience.10:38
jotillol10:38
pvhsoundray: sort of -- i have a deadline at 8:30am10:38
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jotilpvh: deadline to restore the ext3?10:38
pvhsoundray: so i'm trying to find someone who has been through this and can help me get through without getting me fired10:38
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pvhjotil: don't need to restore it, just to rescue a few extremely vital files.10:38
pvhjotil: deadline is 0615 PST10:39
chimaeraoccasionally, shutdown hangs and doesn't power off my powerbook. after the splash i get some lines relating to networkmanager..10:39
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pvhjotil: well, actually, a couple extra hours would be nice so that i can actually finish the work10:39
tech0007papsk...hope this helps https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1490910:39
soundraypvh: surely, if they're vital, the ones on the ext3 weren't the only copies?!10:39
pvhsoundray: not helpful.10:39
helgetesting the "desktop effects", I get same results as with beryl, the qube doesnt change desktops, like its changing virtual non-existen desktops :p10:40
pvhsoundray: :)10:40
jotilapparently, if i understand what you did - you actually formatted the drive with important files and changed the filesystem while you were at it?10:40
helgeI take it should actually switch between desktops..10:40
tech0007helge...videocard?10:40
soundraypvh: no, I know, you've set the stakes to high10:40
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pvhjotil: yes, which is actually a blessing in disguise here.10:40
soundraypvh: maybe that's the first thing to do: get your deadline extended10:41
pvhsoundray: not an option.10:41
papskthat's what i'm trying to tell you people  that I'm stuck at conversion step, it says that didn't find rpm file10:41
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pvhjotil: i'm trying to find one of the other superblocks10:41
helgetech0007, using intel chipset videocard.. the qube spins and all, just not between the desktops I have defined..10:41
soundraypapsk: did you download to the desktop?10:41
papskyes sir10:41
jotilpvh: but from the limited understanding i have, fat32 has a way of pointing files and ext3 has a different way (inodes etc)10:41
pvhjotil: either that or i've read that using mke2fs can possibly save the day10:41
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soundraypapsk: enter 'cd ~/Desktop' and try again10:42
pvhjotil: right, but there were no files put onto this new format and my reading indicates that fat32 just starts at the beginning of the drive and works outwards10:42
pvhjotil: so i've probably lost a few of the first files written to the drive10:42
winchesterPATmy keyboard is breaking windows PATENT its has a windows key10:42
pvhjotil: and the superblock10:42
pvhjotil: but my home directory should theoretically be intact10:42
pvhjotil: i just need to figure out how to get to it.10:42
soundraywinchesterPAT: you can't patent a logo on a keyboard10:42
jotilhmmmm10:43
winchesterPATsoundray: you cant ?10:43
jotilpvh: a very messy situation i must say!10:43
pvhjotil: yeah. would you happen to know the default blocksize ubuntu uses for the fs?10:43
soundraywinchesterPAT: no. The best you can do for a logo is register it as part of a trademark.10:43
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pvhjotil: i'm still optimistic, caffeinated, and making (slow) progress.10:44
winchesterPATbut its not just the logo10:44
winchesterPATits the key10:44
pvhjotil: i'd give myself about 20% success odds right now10:44
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pvhjotil: basically, at some point soon my backup will be finished and then i'll have to try to Do Something10:44
winchesterPATi bet the keyboard maker is in deep shit now10:45
pvhjotil: at which point i'll probably corrupt the filesystem and have to restore, losing another two hours10:45
tech0007papsk...u failed to convert w/c package? did u check if the download isn't corrupt10:45
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papskit gives "Unknown type of package, /home/mahendra/Desktop" error10:45
winchesterPATisnt there a keytboard with a linux key ?10:45
pvhjotil: so i want to make sure that when i Do Something it has the best chance of success possible10:45
martin_anyone? How do I make kde programs close instead of going into tray when I press "close" button?10:45
jotilok10:45
CorpseFeederok.. I have a Radeon R250 [Mobility FireGL 9000]  video card in this Toshiba Tecra notebook computer. I'm pretty sure the driver here http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/previous/linux-r-8-28-8.html is the one I need. Can anyone help me with getting that driver installed without killing my system?10:45
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jotilpvh: usually blocksize is variable, right10:45
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[chr0n0s] winchesterPAT : nope.. but you can stick a penguin logo on windows key !!10:46
papskno, i have downloaded from Canon site10:46
martin_CorpseFeeder,  Have you tried "envy"10:46
pvhjotil: i thought it was fixed on a per-filesystem basis.10:46
soundraypapsk: you didn't do what I asked you to do.10:46
CorpseFeedermartin_: who is Envy?10:46
dgjones!envy10:46
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!10:46
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martin_CorpseFeeder,  google ati envy10:46
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goddamn_mac_manCorpseFeeder: Neither of those will work, you need and xorg 7 driver10:46
soundraymartin_: please don't recommend envy10:46
papskye i did, and it's showing :Unknown type of package, /home/mahendra/Desktop." error10:46
martin_shut up10:47
jotilpvh: not necessarily10:47
martin_soundray,  I recommend what is best for people10:47
[chr0n0s] CorpseFeeder : type restricted-manager on a console10:47
soundray!ops | martin_ recommending deprecated software & being rude about it10:47
ubotumartin_ recommending deprecated software & being rude about it: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici10:47
dgjonesmartin_, envy isn't supported within the Ubuntu channel10:47
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peacepipejvwinchester: just draw with permaink10:47
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daveinthesky!envy10:47
martin_anyone? How do I make kde programs close instead of going into tray when I press "close" button?10:47
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!10:47
martin_!envy10:47
robhmm10:47
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winchesterPATany one has the UT3 login/ password10:47
winchesterPATany one has the UT3 login/ password ?10:47
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fritzsHow do I mount a NFS share in 7.10 using the GUI?10:47
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Amaranthmartin_: I don't care if you use envy but we do not support it here so we ask that you do not recommend it to people.10:48
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tech0007fritz....#ubuntu+110:48
livingdaylighthello10:48
jotilpvh: googled and found that ext3 can support block sizes upto 8KB.10:48
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livingdaylighti am using Breezy Badger... i heard that there is a new version?10:49
soundraymartin_: also, have a look at the code of conduct and see if you think that telling people to "shut up" fits with it.10:49
soundray!coc | martin_10:49
ubotumartin_: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/10:49
jotilpvh: 1KB, 2KB, 4KB and 8KB10:49
martin_jj10:49
pvhjotil: yeah, i'm still trying to figure out what the default used by ubuntu is...10:49
Amaranthlivingdaylight: Wow, breezy is _really_ old10:49
martin_Amaranth,  who "we"? Is this an official channel of Canonical Inc and Shuttleworth??10:49
Mezlivingdaylight, there have been a couple of releases since10:49
Amaranthmartin_: This is the official Ubuntu IRC channel.10:49
tech0007livingdaylight...u sure ur in the daylight?10:49
livingdaylightreally?10:49
[chr0n0s] CorpseFeeder : any luck ?10:49
CorpseFeeder[chr0n0s] : why am I typing restrited-manager in the console?10:49
Amaranthlivingdaylight: Yeah, that's about 2 years old10:49
[chr0n0s] CorpseFeeder : to install ati drivers...10:50
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Amaranthlivingdaylight: It doesn't even get security updates anymore10:50
martin_Amaranth,  Do you officially work for Shuttleworth with a job contract?10:50
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livingdaylightwhere have i been?10:50
Amaranthmartin_: No.10:50
[chr0n0s] CorpseFeeder : sorry it's sudo restricted-manager10:50
CorpseFeeder[chr0n0s] : b... b... b... but.. the restricted manager drivers don't support this card???10:50
allamhow i can install libssl0.9.6 packege10:50
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robmartin_, please take it to pm10:50
Mezmartin_, your questions are irrelevant to the channel, please address Amaranth via /msg10:50
Amaranthlivingdaylight: It'd probably take about 24 hours to upgrade since you have to go from version to version, I suggest you download the Ubuntu 7.10 Release Candidate and do a clean install with it.10:51
[chr0n0s] CorpseFeeder : well, there are 2 options.. either get drivers from ati.amd.com or use sudo restricted-manager10:51
nooblarwhat are the guidelines for whether software is supported or unsupported?10:51
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pvhjotil: are you using a partition created automatically by the installer?10:51
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martin_Amaranth .. So when you dont work for Ubuntu and you're  here to give advice about Ubuntu ,, why can you dictate what others can advise about Ubuntu ??10:51
Amaranthnooblar: If it's included in Ubuntu we'll help you with it here10:51
allam how i can install libssl0.9.6 package10:51
jotilyeah10:51
nooblarby implication if it's not included do not mention it?10:52
WaltzingAlong!code10:52
ubotuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida10:52
papsksecondary, will i get the guidence from you?10:52
[chr0n0s] allam try sudo aptitude install libssl10:52
pvhcould you try a "dumpe2fs /dev/sda1"/10:52
pvh?10:52
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Amaranthmartin_: If you want to continue this discussion join #ubuntu-offtopic10:52
CorpseFeeder[chr0n0s] : my card is the Radeon R250 which isn't supported... and goddamn_mac_man tells me I can't use the ati's drivers without xorg7???10:52
Amaranthnooblar: Pretty much10:52
nooblari c10:52
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CorpseFeederThere must be some way to make this card work properly?10:52
winchesterPATany one has the UT3 login/ password ?10:53
[chr0n0s] CorpseFeeder : what all have you tried till now ?10:53
goddamn_mac_manCorpseFeeder: Ubuntu has xorg 7.something (afaik), the drivers you linked were for xorg 6.8 and xfree 4.3. Neither of which will work with xorg7.whatever (it changes from release to release because the devs are morons)10:53
robwinchesterPAT, no, but take a look at the games website10:53
tech0007allam...newer versions are availabel for libssl0, why 0.9.6?10:53
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pommerhow do i password protect folders?10:53
winchesterPATwhat games website ?10:53
robwinchesterPAT, UT310:53
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AmaranthwinchesterPAT: login/password? Wouldn't you get that from a game box?10:53
winchesterPATUT3 is still in beta10:54
allam tech0007:how i can installed it10:54
Amaranthpommer: You can change the permissions on the folder so only you and root can access it10:54
robwinchesterPAT, well, ask whoever gave it to you for the login details10:54
AmaranthwinchesterPAT: Go to where you got it then, I guess10:54
winchesterPATyou need to have a gamespy acount10:54
winchesterPATi dont have10:55
robwinchesterPAT, you seem to be answering your own question, and this is for Ubuntu support, not UT3 ;)10:55
pommerbut say if i had to leave the computer as it is for the next 9 hours with a over nosey brother in the house how could i hide my wifes folder?10:55
CorpseFeedergoddamn_mac_man: oh.. ok,  [chr0n0s] : previously I tried to install the drivers from ati for xorg 6.8 and xfree 4.3 (as pointed out by goddamn_mac_man, but that screwed up my computer....10:55
tech0007use synaptic, change ur settings to force older versions10:55
winchesterPATcant remember password10:55
winchesterPATlogin10:55
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jotilpvh: 4KB blocks10:55
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pvhjotil: okay, that helps! thanks!10:55
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Amaranthpommer: rename it to have a period (.) at the start of the name10:55
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pvhi'm thinking i might be able to find a backup superblock that will work here10:55
winchesterPATgamespy ducks10:56
Amaranthpommer: Then it'll only show up if you tell the file browser to show hidden files10:56
winchesterPATsucks10:56
Amaranthpommer: Then just rename it back later10:56
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pommeroh cool. and how do i set browser to view hidden files later?10:56
WaltzingAlongpommer: do not give admin rights to the other user, lock the session, change mod so others cannot read it10:56
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Amaranthpommer: In the View menu or Ctrl-H10:56
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rzimek78how to download source code of a program by apt-get or aptitude?10:57
Amaranthrzimek78: apt-get source <package>10:57
Zweisteinerzimek78, apt-get source10:57
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soundraypommer: remove the hard disk drive and take it with you10:57
pommerthankins you kindly10:57
WaltzingAlongrzimek78: apt-get source <package>10:57
pommeryeah theres a idea too10:57
pvhjotil: woah!10:57
goddamn_mac_manWhat version of xorg is fesity on right now?10:57
pvhjotil: breakthrough!10:57
jotilpvh: helps?10:57
Amaranthgoddamn_mac_man: 7.110:57
goddamn_mac_manwoot10:57
Amaranth!info xserver-xorg feisty10:58
ubotuxserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.2-0ubuntu11 (feisty), package size 440 kB, installed size 1320 kB10:58
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Amaranthoh, 7.210:58
rzimek78ok10:58
pommerbro alrady walked in on us like 5 times.. even with padlocks...doorlock and a warddrobe in front of the door10:58
martin_Where in ubuntuforums.org do I place suggestion "Make "close" button to close programs instead of going into tray by default"10:58
goddamn_mac_mandamn10:58
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pommerdont really need my bro knowing the ins and out of my wife10:58
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Amaranthpommer: Ok, that discussion is a little offtopic :P10:58
winchesterPATwhy did the apparmour guys got fiered from SUSE ?10:58
goddamn_mac_manhttp://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon-prer200.html <- Was going to suggest that driver but no 7.2 support10:58
soundraypommer: there is more than one way to read that statement...10:58
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pvhjotil: yeah! i just got the dumpe2fs to work!10:58
soundraypommer: for the longer term, look at filesystem encryption10:58
pommerits to the point10:59
pvhjotil: i think i'm getting close to being able to mount this puppy10:59
winchesterPATdump2fs ?10:59
winchesterPATdumpe2fs ?10:59
pommerwifes just 23 and bro is a 40 year old virgin10:59
winchesterPATlike whats that used for ?10:59
Amaranthgoddamn_mac_man: All ATI cards either have an open source driver that works nicely or are supported with the current version of fglrx on the version of Xorg Ubuntu uses10:59
pvhwinchesterPAT: diagnosing screwed up partitions10:59
pvhjotil: this calls for more coffee.10:59
robmartin_, if you are talking about Ubuntu, probably launchpad.net10:59
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CorpseFeedergoddamn_mac_man: that is the same driver I was looking at before10:59
Amaranthgoddamn_mac_man: Also, can you change your nick please?10:59
soundraypommer: let's stick to the topic10:59
pommerahhh. so linux eh10:59
soundray:)11:00
jotilwinchesterPAT: dump2efs gives information about your efs partition11:00
pommerlooooooooooooonux11:00
goddamn_mac_manAmaranth: The open source driver didn't work for CorpseFeeder11:00
pommergood ole linux11:00
Flexyjerkovwould u all say lunix is better than windows11:00
AmaranthCorpseFeeder: Why happens when you use the 'ati' driver?11:00
soundraypommer: stop11:00
pommerso where is everyone from?11:00
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pommeranybody from the uk?11:00
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AmaranthCorpseFeeder: That card should definitely be supported11:00
Amaranth!offtopic | pommer11:00
Flexyjerkovye im in uk11:00
ubotupommer: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!11:00
WaltzingAlongyes11:00
Flexyjerkovim at work lol11:00
tech0007im at home :-D11:01
AmaranthFlexyjerkov: Windows certain has its advantages but we wouldn't be here if we didn't think Linux was better. :)11:01
pommerim on topic. im asking if there is anybody from england. due to possible continental linux issues11:01
CorpseFeederAmaranth: nothing I can't get the ati driver to install. The card is not properly supported.11:01
allamhow i can  Install libssl0.9.6 or later ,please11:01
AmaranthCorpseFeeder: No no, the driver from ati.com is 'fglrx', the 'ati' driver is the open source one11:01
goddamn_mac_manCorpseFeeder: he means the built-in xorg ati driver I believe, not the proprioetary one11:01
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Tm_Tpommer: ask your question then, people outside of uk might know it too11:01
winchesterPATAmaranth: i thought you was here because linux was cheaper n11:01
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arcticblueI am running Gutsy amd64 and trying to install MythTV.  When typing "apt-get install mythtv-backend", I get this error:  mythtv-backend: Depends: mythtv-common (= 0.20.2-0ubuntu10) but 0.20.2-0ubuntu9 is to be installed11:02
arcticblueI am using the "Main" repository11:02
pommeri have a question. how i get my logitech webcam to work on here with skype. i try make calls and it has no option for video call11:02
arcticblueAny ideas?11:02
WaltzingAlong!gutsy | arcticblue11:02
ubotuarcticblue: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information11:02
tech0007arcticblue    #ubuntu+111:02
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allamhow i can  Install libssl0.9.6 or later ,please please11:02
ikoniaarcticblue the package is not ready11:02
Tm_Tpommer: that has nothing to do with being uk or not =)11:02
winchesterPATpommer: get lost asshole11:02
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Amaranth!ohmy | winchesterPAT11:03
ubotuwinchesterPAT: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.11:03
robwinchesterPAT, oi, watch the language, we are G rated here :)11:03
ikoniawinchesterPAT: DROP that language11:03
Tm_Trob: just do what you have to do ;)11:03
CorpseFeederAmaranth: sorry, yeah... the opensource ATI driver fails to support it properly and the fglrx driver doesn't support this card at all... and the correct proprietary drivers for this card form ATI don't support xorg7.211:03
pommerwell... the other question i have is uk related.. was going to ask someone to come configure it for me since im a workaholic and getting less hours free by the day11:03
winchesterPATwhats G rated means ?11:03
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WaltzingAlongpommer: try ekiga or kopete. skype for linux does not support video11:03
goddamn_mac_manCorpseFeeder: yeah, ATi killed support for those old R250 cards in both the Windows and Linux drivers a while back11:04
robwinchesterPAT, we often have young ones in here, so please don't swear etc11:04
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pommeroh crikey. is kopete multiformat?11:04
AmaranthCorpseFeeder: What do you mean 'fails to support it properly'?11:04
andy58'lo all11:04
goddamn_mac_manCorpseFeeder: nVidia did something similar but the ubuntu proprietary driver doohickey sorts it out11:04
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CorpseFeederSo what you people are telling me is that there is no way in hell of getting this video card to work correctly and I am stuck with the limited functionality of the non-working open-source drivers....?11:04
Tm_Tpommer: Kopete supports video with MSN and Yahoo atleast11:04
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Amaranthpommer: Yes, kopete works with AIM, MSN, YIM, etc11:04
WaltzingAlongpommer: through sip you should be able to make video calls so the other side need not use kopete11:04
pommernice :D11:04
allami want to install yahoo and when i tried toinstall it ,it need this package  libssl0.9.6 ,how i can install it11:04
WaltzingAlong!info kopete11:04
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 7108 kB, installed size 19632 kB11:04
winchesterPATso why is it when i swear online thyey say im 10 years old ?11:04
Amaranthpommer: Yes, kopete works with AIM, MSN, YIM, etc11:05
Amarantherr11:05
andy58although I sometimes like the mounted drives appearing on the desktop.. I don't think I want all the FTP servers appearing there.. Is there way to remove them without losing the connection from the folder list ?11:05
crdlbCorpseFeeder, what exactly is limited about the open source driver?11:05
pommerbrilliant.11:05
AmaranthCorpseFeeder: What do you mean 'fails to support it properly'?11:05
winchesterPATERR11:05
goddamn_mac_manAmaranth: The ABI changes from release to release11:05
pommerno way to video call through gaim into msn then?11:05
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Tm_Tpommer: not that I know11:05
CorpseFeederAmaranth: not properly meaning certain things like no video-out from the TV-out port, graphics don't render properly in some programs, etc.. etc...11:06
Amaranthgoddamn_mac_man: Yes, this happens when you take something that has been stagnant for a decade and update it to current technologies11:06
allam i want to install yahoo and when i tried toinstall it ,it need this package  libssl0.9.6 ,how i can install it11:06
pommerive been taking snapshots every 2 minutes and sending them to compensate for lack of seeying me full motion like. been a pain in the derrier11:06
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AmaranthCorpseFeeder: Ah, in that case Ubuntu 7.10 may help you a lot11:06
AmaranthCorpseFeeder: I seem to remember something about TV-out support11:06
Amaranthallam: Just use gaim/pidgin or kopete, no need to install yahoo messenger11:07
CorpseFeederAmaranth: one example is the text in that penguin racer game (Whatever it's called)... none of the text renders in that...11:07
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pommerive got to be honest in my opinion here. when people fully embrace linux to the extent windows is. i truley beleive theres gunna be a subscription based element to it. cuz i dont beleive people do something for nothing.11:07
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pommerlike building the foundation to a future.. investment in the upcoming11:08
Amaranthallam: You cannot get that package11:08
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Amaranthpommer: If that was true we wouldn't be this far11:08
Amaranthpommer: People have been doing this stuff for free for 20 years now11:08
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Amaranthpommer: But this is offtopic again11:08
winchesterPATim investing in vista11:09
MeRodentAmaranth, yeah but it's all part of an insidious plot. :)11:09
pommervista is pish11:09
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goddamn_mac_manallam: Any particular reason why you want the Yahoo messenger? Gaim is installed with the system and will connect to Yahoo just fine11:09
allamAmaranth:why man11:09
Amaranthallam: Because it hasn't existed for at least 2 years11:09
allamok11:09
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pommernobody puts this much time skill and effort into something they dont genuinely want reward from.11:10
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pommerthere a ubuntu dance?11:10
Amaranthpommer: Seriously, join #ubuntu-offtopic or stop this11:10
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allamgoddamn_mac_man:how i can log in to yahoo messenger with gaim11:10
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goddamn_mac_manyou could create a libssl0.9.6 symlink to whatever the current libssl library is but that's a dirty hack. Just use gaim/pidgin already.11:10
IdleOnepommer: he reward is that everuday more and more people are using ubuntu for free11:11
Flexyjerkovdo windows dos commands work in terminal?11:11
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goddamn_mac_manFlexyjerkov: like what?11:11
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soundray!cli > Flexyjerkov, please read the pm11:11
Amaranthgoddamn_mac_man: If that was possible it would be done automatically. The ABI changed so things need to be recompiled.11:11
tech0007allam...pick yahoo in the protocol dropdown11:11
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Flexyjerkovlike copy11:11
AmaranthFlexyjerkov: The only thing from DOS I can think of that works is 'cd'11:11
dgjonesFlexyjerkov, no11:11
pommerwho funds this? thats all im wondering. even some mirc basic zip coders need money to fund them. basic games too. its like candy to a baby11:11
goddamn_mac_manAmaranth: No it wouldn't. Linux devs are lazy11:12
Flexyjerkovlol k11:12
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pommerjus stuff quivering on the mind. ok ill stop11:12
AmaranthFlexyjerkov: That's 'cp'11:12
MeRodentFlexyjerkov, there are different commands. ie cp is equvalent to copy11:12
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Flexyjerkovright, so its simpler lol11:12
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MeRodentFlexyjerkov, no. it's different.11:12
AmaranthFlexyjerkov: Well, less keystrokes anyway11:12
Flexyjerkovso delete is prob del11:12
IdleOnepommer: Ubuntu is funded by Canonical wich is funded/ was funded by Mark Shuttleworth11:12
AmaranthFlexyjerkov: rm11:12
Flexyjerkovor summet lol11:12
MeRodentFlexyjerkov, actually rm11:13
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pommeramaranth. can you come configure my ubuntu please11:13
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Flexyjerkovrm is same as windows11:13
martin_pommer .. Answer to "who funds this" .. either their parents or Mark Shuttleworth for ubuntu11:13
AmaranthFlexyjerkov: Some DOS commands come from Unix :)11:13
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Flexyjerkov:P11:13
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CorpseFeederIs there like a "live" version of gutsy yet?11:13
AmaranthCorpseFeeder: Yeah11:13
Flexyjerkovi find linux irc rooms very different to the normal gamer channels, everyone is refered to by name lol11:14
monkeywraithi was having a problem with audacity and the audacity wiki told me to use the following command, which broke it further ... i am not overly worried about audacity, i just wondered what dsp files are originally there and how to set them back up:        $ rm /dev/dsp;ln -s /dev/dsp0 /dev/dsp  #also try /dev/dsp1,2,etc.11:14
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AmaranthCorpseFeeder: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc#head-eaf26ea8b3c8adb8145f9a66aa8aeb131ecb06c911:14
horsnelmhey anyone had problems with sound and the snd_intel8x0 module, I'm getting nothing out of my speakers in gutsy11:14
IdleOneFlexyjerkov:  in a channel this big and with this much scrol you need to be reffered to by nick or you would miss have of it11:14
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MeRodentFlexyjerkov, that's because there are about 1000 people here. and it gets confusing to understand where you're at otherwise.11:14
tech0007horsnelm....#ubuntu+111:14
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soundray!intelhda > horsnelm, please read the private message from ubotu11:15
ikoniamonkeywraith that won't work as ubuntu uses udev to create device nodes dynamically11:15
Psi-JackAnyone know of a decent alarm clock program?11:15
AmaranthFlexyjerkov: It's quite easy to lose messages in the noise when a page of text only covers a minute or so11:15
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ikoniaPsi-Jack: ther is kalarm in kde, but I've been searching for something other than cron in gmoe for a while11:15
tsurcdoes anyone know how I can start an installation of ubuntu with ssh support (So I can stick the cd/dvd in the drive then go back to my office to finish the install)?11:15
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monkeywraithikonia, so by the same token, i do not have to worry about what i did screwing anything up?11:16
Psi-JackRight now, all I got is a basic kalarm to call an alarm script that fires up rhythmbox, sets volumes every 15 seconds to pan it up, etc..11:16
soundrayPsi-Jack, ikonia: I'm completely happy with 'at'11:16
Amaranthmonkeywraith: Was the problem '/dev/dsp is busy'? If so you need to close all other sound playing apps and possibly even run 'killall esd'11:16
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Psi-Jacksoundray: At's okay, but there's no snooze. :p11:16
Flexyjerkovdoes neone think linux will one day be a big OS?11:16
Flexyjerkovas ubuntu is making its mark slowly11:16
rapidlol11:16
soundrayPsi-Jack: you can script snooze11:17
Psi-JackFlexyjerkov: It is, already.11:17
soundrayPsi-Jack: don't take the bait please11:17
Psi-Jacksoundray: I guess it's something I'll have to progress on.11:17
Flexyjerkovi mean for standard home users11:17
monkeywraithaudacity was just saying 'error opening audio device. check output device settings and project sample rate.' ... when i check the settings, there is not output device in the list to select11:17
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AmaranthFlexyjerkov: Slow and steady wins the race. :)11:17
IdleOneFlexyjerkov: /join #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to discuss how big Linux is11:18
Athreyajotil: Hey11:18
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Psi-JackHeh, anyway. ;)11:18
Psi-JackI guess what I got for now, will work.11:18
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theAtomI found a solutuon silent11:19
Psi-JackI'll likely make some kind of GUI to call instead, once I figure out how, enough. *chuckles*11:19
jotilAthreya: hey dude.. you had that permission issue yesterday right?11:19
Athreyayep11:19
Athreyai wanted to thank ya11:19
Athreyai reinstalled11:19
Athreya:P11:19
theAtomfound fix for openoffice errors11:19
chimaeraoccasionally, shutdown hangs and doesn't power off my powerbook. after the splash i get some lines relating to networkmanager..11:19
Athreyaand now, i cant mount my ntfs partitions...plus i still got permission issues11:19
Athreyalol11:19
Athreyaam installing ntfs 311:20
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Psi-Jacksoundray, ikonia: Thanks. Now I'm off to sleep. hehe11:20
theAtomturned CLOCK FORWARD 1 day and apt-get upgrade!  FIXED :)11:20
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jotilAthreya: installing ntfs-3g worked for me11:20
WaltzingAlong!ntfs-3g11:20
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions11:20
tech0007theAtom....thats great!11:21
Athreyaam trying...will keep you posted.11:21
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Athreyai was trying to setup the ssh thing with usser...got disconnected. by the time i got back...both of you were gone11:21
tech0007theAtom...will remember that in case it happens to me (knock on wood)11:21
theAtomtech0007, remember me and my problem?11:22
theAtomtech0007, So I simply changed the date in ubuntu (using right mouse click on the clock) by forwarding it one day. Then I was able to finalize the installation using "sudo apt-get upgrade". After that I reset local time to my actual time again.11:22
theAtomtech0007, what would cause that to happen in first place anyway?11:22
Psi-JackHeh, I've been using WinAmp with WinAlarm, for so long, I'm not used to having anything less, right now. *chuckles*11:22
AmaranthCorpseFeeder: Are you downloading the Ubuntu 7.10 RC Desktop disc?11:22
theAtomtech0007, who would have ever thought about turning clock forward ONE DAY to fix it11:22
jotilAthreya: i had to sleep.. usser probably ran away11:22
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Athreyalol11:22
theAtomtech0007, im sure it will happen to others.  simple fix, clock forward one day11:22
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theAtomtech0007, any ideas why that works?11:22
CorpseFeederAmaranth: yeah I may do that'11:22
Athreyaanyways...thanks for helping me out yesterday mate11:23
Athreyaappreciate it11:23
tech0007theAtom ... no clue11:23
CorpseFeederAmaranth: I was just reading...11:23
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jotilAthreya: but it's a good idea to have shhd installed. so you can remotely access your system.11:23
Athreyak11:23
Athreyawill do11:23
Tm_T!fi > tuna-fish11:23
AmaranthCorpseFeeder: Ah, well the ati driver included with it is supposed to support tv-out so hopefully it'll help you.11:23
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theAtomtech0007, weird, but works now!  so now openoffice doesnt give errors at updating11:23
theAtomtech0007, :)11:23
tuna-fishTm_T: ???11:23
Tm_Ttuna-fish: see msg from ubotu11:24
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theAtomtech0007, remember it in case someone else asks you about it11:24
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tech0007theAtom...okie11:24
theAtomtech0007, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-532154.html11:24
tuna-fishk11:24
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theAtomtech0007, says: I think the main problem is that Feisty believes the computer's internal clock works using UTC.11:25
AmaranththeAtom: I think it asks you that during the install11:25
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theAtomAmaranth, asks what?11:25
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AmaranththeAtom: If the system clock is set to UTC11:25
theAtomAmaranth, i didnt ask me11:26
AmaranththeAtom: Ah11:26
ikoniaAmaranth: it does, it even shows you a map where you can select the time region your in11:26
theAtomAmaranth, what is UTC anyway?11:26
AmaranththeAtom: Well, your system clock _should_ be set to UTC :)11:26
mattfletcherdoes anyone know if it is possible to use a mysql database to provide login authentication for a network of machiens?11:26
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tech0007Amaranth: theAtom  didnt notice that either11:26
theAtomikonia, not in all installations11:26
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ikoniatheAtom: which installation method doesn't ?11:26
theAtomi didnt use livecd installaion11:26
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theAtomi used the text version11:26
ikoniatheAtom: the alternate asks you in a curses windows11:27
AmaranththeAtom: Also known as GMT, Greenwich Mean Time. It's the reference point for all other timezones. American Central Time is GMT-6, for example.11:27
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theAtomikonia, didnt ask me as far I recall11:27
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ikoniatheAtom: I think you must have missed it11:27
theAtomAmaranth, how do I change that now?11:27
theAtomikonia, maybe11:27
ikoniatzselect11:27
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ikonia/etc/localtime11:27
AmaranththeAtom: In BIOS11:27
theAtomwhat should It be for me?  I live in Sydney AU11:27
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AmaranthMon Oct 15 09:26:24 UTC 200711:27
theAtomAmaranth, im not changing bios!11:27
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Athreyajotil: breaking my head about installing xmblackberry & barry now...11:28
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Athreyausing google as much as i can...let's see how that turns out11:28
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soundraytheAtom: if your BIOS time runs on local, change the line in /etc/default/rcS to read UTC=no11:28
MeroigoIf I have installed a ubuntu server on a slow computer (like 500 Mhz Intel, 128 MB RAM) and its hard drive haven't got much space, and I want to have a GUI for it, is xubuntu-desktop the best alternative? Doesn't there exsist a ubuntu GUI without all openoffice stuff, games etc etc that I don't need on a server?11:28
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tech0007theAtom..where u in AU?11:28
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theAtomtech0007, Sydney11:28
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yassine_irc: gus.multitel.be/#novaom11:29
tech0007theAtom..http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html11:29
theAtomim confused!  whats UTC exactly?11:29
soundraytheAtom: coordinated universal time11:29
WaltzingAlongMeroigo: xfce (xubuntu) is perhaps the best "full desktop" but otherwise you could just toss fluxbox or such on there11:29
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theAtomsoundray, how does that affect ubuntu?11:29
soundraytheAtom: roughly equivalent to GMT (Greenwich mean time)11:29
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MeroigoWaltzingAlong> is it easy? Can it be done through apt-get? ^^11:30
soundraytheAtom: on bootup, Ubuntu reads the BIOS time and sets the clock accordingly, either correcting or not correcting for your timezone11:30
WaltzingAlongMeroigo: sudo aptitude install fluxbox            or sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop              done11:30
jotilAthreya: no clue about those11:30
soundraytheAtom: if UTC is yes, and you11:30
theAtomsoundray, what?11:30
soundraytheAtom: sorry11:31
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Meroigois fluxbox xubuntu but without all the desktop applications?11:31
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WaltzingAlong!info fluxbox | Meroigo11:31
ubotumeroigo: fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.15.1+1.0rc2-1 (feisty), package size 899 kB, installed size 2888 kB11:31
WaltzingAlongMeroigo:11:31
WaltzingAlongno11:31
soundraytheAtom: if UTC is yes, and your time zone is Sydney, it'll add the appropriate number of hours to the BIOS time and display it as the system time.11:31
soundraytheAtom: what do you get when you type 'date'?11:32
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theAtomMon Oct 15 19:32:20 EST 200711:32
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theAtomsoundray, Mon Oct 15 19:32:20 EST 200711:32
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mattfletcherdoes anyone know if it is possible to use a mysql database to provide login authentication for a network of machines? i.e: can NIS/similar use mysql as its data source?11:33
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tux97hi11:33
theAtomhow can I add PGP to ubuntu?11:33
tech0007theAtom.....at the specified time, local time in Sydney was 10 hours ahead of UTC11:33
ikoniamattfletcher thats a debatable question, the short answer is no, the long answer is based around custom pam modules11:33
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theAtomtech0007, well that explains why changing date to ONE DAY in future fixed my updrading11:34
jatt!gpg11:34
ubotugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts11:34
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theAtomtech0007, I changed date back to today!  will this be ok now?11:34
soundraytheAtom: you should run 'sudo tzconfig' and set the timezone right. Then you should reboot, enter BIOS setup and set the system time to UTC (Sydney minus 10 hours).11:34
theAtomsoundray, why?11:34
theAtomsoundray, what will happen if I dont?11:34
tux97is everyone going to upgrade ubuntu in a few days?11:35
goddamn_mac_manI've never set any of my PC clocks to GMT. Never seen the point.11:35
soundraytheAtom: you will get more of the kind of problems you already had a taste of.11:35
theAtomsoundray, sudo: tzconfig: command not found11:35
soundraytheAtom: sudo tzselect if you're on gutsy11:35
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NedskiHey all, whats the terminal command to find the ip of the machine?11:36
tux97ifconfig11:36
Athreyajotil: sorry for bugging you again...could you help me with the rw command you gave me yesterday please?11:36
goddamn_mac_manNedski: ifconfig11:36
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Nedskisweet thanks11:36
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Athreyafor the ext3 partitions11:36
theAtomok I ran sudo tzselect11:36
Nedskithought it was ipconfig11:36
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soundraytheAtom: if you want your BIOS to run on Sydney time, still make the settings I recommended, but change UTC to no in /etc/default/rcS11:36
theAtomsoundray, I then told it Sydney. AU11:36
goddamn_mac_manNedski: That's Windows ;)11:36
tech0007Nedski....thats for windoze11:36
tux97nedski ipconfig is windows11:37
theAtomsoundray, whats next step?11:37
soundraytheAtom: good. Now edit rcS and change UTC to no11:37
jotilAthreya: what do you want to do again?11:37
WaltzingAlongInterFace config11:37
pvhNedski: it stands for "interface config"11:37
theAtomTherefore TZ='Australia/Sydney' will be used.11:37
theAtomLocal time is now:      Mon Oct 15 19:36:08 EST 2007.11:37
theAtomUniversal Time is now:  Mon Oct 15 09:36:08 UTC 2007.11:37
Athreyapermissions...11:37
Athreyasame problem mate...11:37
Nedskithanks everyone11:37
pvhNedski: and i always type the wrong one first no matter which OS i'm using11:37
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jotilwhat permissions? read/write/execute for everyone?11:37
Nedskiis everyone excited about Gutsy?11:37
Athreyar/w/e for me first...i;m the only user11:37
NedskiIm installing ubuntu on my bosses machine!11:38
tux97i dont know if i am11:38
pvhNedski: i'm not. i'm running it, and it's causing me all kinds of problems.11:38
soundrayNedski: discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic please11:38
jotilok11:38
Nedskisoundray.. about gutsy?11:38
theAtomsoundray, it already says: UTC=no11:38
pvhNedski: though i admit freely my current problem is not gutsy's fault11:38
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tech0007Nedski...not me...im willing to wait til its released11:38
soundrayNedski: this is the support channel for *released* versions of ubuntu11:38
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WaltzingAlong!gutsy11:38
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information11:38
theAtomsoundray, it already says: UTC=no.  Is that by default?11:38
Nedskiokies well thanks people11:39
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tux97so tech0007 so your going to upgrade in a few days?11:39
soundraytheAtom: no. Normally it's set to yes11:39
tech0007tux97....yup11:39
theAtomsoundray, well I just loaded etc/default/rcS, and it says:  UTC=no11:39
soundraytheAtom: but that's fine. I would still reboot and check the time that's set in the BIOS setup.11:39
tux97so do we have to do a complete install of it or can we do a upgrade?11:39
theAtomsoundray, did running sudo tzselect change it?11:39
jotilAthreya: you are the file/directory owner?11:39
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soundraytheAtom: no.11:39
goddamn_mac_mantux97: you can upgrade11:39
tech0007tux97...il try the upgrade 1st...clean install if it doesnt work out11:40
theAtomsoundray, load my BIOS and check it for what?11:40
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Athreyaerm...i reinstalled....created/formatted new partitions...11:40
Athreyashouldnt i be the owner by default?11:40
theAtomsoundray, check the time is my local sydney time?11:40
Cyber_Stalkercan some one help me, i get "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found" on startup11:40
soundraytheAtom: don't worry about it, though. Now that UTC is set to no, you want to check that your BIOS time is set to Sydney time.11:40
theAtomsoundray, in BIOS?11:40
jotilAthreya: man chmod11:40
soundraytheAtom: yes11:40
theAtomsoundray, ok ill look11:40
tux97ok just making sure i dont want to have to redue this laptop agian lol11:40
theAtombbl11:40
soundraytheAtom: hold on11:40
Athreyaaahh yes...sudo chmod /nowamlost11:40
theAtomsoundray, ty for your help/11:40
theAtomsoundray, yes?11:40
jotilAthreya: read that first, i'll help you with the exact command11:41
jotil;)11:41
AthreyaYay11:41
Athreyathanks man11:41
soundraytheAtom: just to emphasize -- this is the setting that, although you seem to prefer it, is somewhat non-standard.11:41
soundraytheAtom: this means that you may run into trouble when there are switches to/from daylight saving time.11:41
theAtomsoundray, of course I prefer my local time, why not?11:41
soundraytheAtom: ^^11:41
theAtomsoundray, why should I change my clock to USA time?11:42
theAtomsoundray, then I ewill never know the local time :P11:42
goddamn_mac_mantheAtom: UTC is based on GMT which is English, not American ;)11:42
goddamn_mac_mantheAtom: the os can fix the local time if it knows the hardware time is UTC11:42
soundraytheAtom: UTC is a world-wide reference. It's not USA time (UTC happens to be London, UK time, non-DST)11:42
theAtomgoddamn_mac_man, i think your nick is inappropriate11:42
gordonjcp10:42 < goddamn_mac_man> theAtom: UTC is based on GMT which is English11:42
gordonjcps/English/British11:43
soundraytheAtom: your system will always show the local time now that you've made those settings.11:43
theAtomsoundray, sorry, i dont understand11:43
theAtomsoundray, ok!  so what shall I do now?11:43
goddamn_mac_mangordonjcp: scot?11:43
tech0007goddamn_mac_man...how many people asked u to changed ur nick today?  :)11:43
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soundraytheAtom: just go with the settings we've made now. Check the BIOS time and make sure it's set to Sydney.11:43
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theAtomsoundray, and after that?11:44
theAtomsoundray, nothing?11:44
kidalabamahello i have got problem11:44
WaltzingAlong!ask | kidalabama11:44
ubotukidalabama: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:44
soundraytheAtom: if you do run into trouble at some point, you can always chance UTC to yes and your BIOS time to UTC.11:44
theAtom<kidalabama> hello i have got problem <-- we can tell by your nick ;)11:44
theAtomsoundray, LOL! dont confuse me11:44
kidalabamamy mailbox is coming crontab mail11:44
soundraytheAtom: if you stopped talking to others and listened to me, it would be easier.11:45
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kidalabamasubject line Cron <root@alp2-laptop> cd /usr/share/dtc/admin && nice -n+20 /usr/share/dtc/admin/rrdtool.sh >> /var/log/dtc.log11:45
theAtomsoundray, if run into trouble at some point, i will do what I did today, turn clock 1 day forward, apt-get upgrade. then change clocl back :)11:45
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theAtomkalleskaviar, hur mor du?11:45
kidalabamatext line cd: 1: can't cd to /usr/share/dtc/admin11:45
soundraytheAtom: okay, seems I've wasted my time on you.11:45
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theAtomsoundray, not at all!  u gave me a good command which I did11:45
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kidalabamai am removed dtc package .11:45
kalleskaviarheh, fine atom thanks. How are you ?11:45
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theAtomkalleskaviar, bra ;)11:46
theAtomsoundray, thanks for all your patience and help11:46
theAtomsoundray, im confident its all fixed now11:46
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kidalabamaubotu:  i am controlled crontab but i cant find11:47
theAtomsoundray, u ok? :)11:47
kidalabamacd: 1: can't cd to /usr/share/dtc/admin11:47
kidalabama0 * * * * /etc/webmin/bandwidth/rotate.pl11:47
kidalabama1 3 * * * /etc/webmin/cron/tempdelete.pl11:47
ikoniakidalabama: ubotu is a bot11:47
soundraytheAtom: yeah yeah11:47
tech0007:)11:47
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kidalabamaikonia: thank you11:48
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lewis1711hello all. ever since installing the KDE desktop I have not been able to change my screen resolution and it's been stuck in 640x480. my video driver is still enabled but now none of my desktop environments let me change resolution. I tried the reconfigure xserver in command line and no luck. any idea what's up?11:49
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theAtomsoundray, dont worry, u didnt waste time. im just a little confused thats all11:49
theAtomsoundray, dont worry, u didnt waste time. im just a little confused thats all11:49
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theAtomsoundray, dont worry, u didnt waste time. im just a little confused thats all11:50
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jotilpvh: any luck?11:50
ubotulewis1711: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:50
soundraylewis1711: when you reconfigure xserver-xorg, make sure you make the right settings about the monitor11:50
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lewis1711right settings about the monitor? maybe I didn't reconfigure it at all.:S I just typed the reconfigure thing in the command line and restarted. er. hmm.11:51
lewis1711ok11:51
soundraylewis1711: ideally, you'd find out the horizontal sync and vertical refresh frequencies from the docs, and feed those to the wizard under "Advanced" monitor settings11:51
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theAtomsoundray, can I keep this version of 7.10 even after the 18th?  Or I need to download the final version and install it?11:51
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pvhjotil: i can dumpe2fs it but not mount it11:52
soundraytheAtom: you can use update-manager to bring it up to date with a few downloads.11:52
lewis1711ah. soundray do you have any idea why my monitor would work perfectly before though? I will try that.11:52
soundraytheAtom: it'll even alert you.11:52
theAtomok11:52
pvhjotil: but when i try to mount it, it says it needs to be e2fscked at least11:52
soundraylewis1711: you had gnome before?11:52
theAtomsoundray, :)11:52
theAtombye11:52
pvhjotil: so i'm going to wait for the backup to finish and then try and see what happens11:52
theAtomthanks again for your help11:52
soundraytheAtom: good luck11:52
pvhjotil: which should be any moment now11:52
theAtombye soundray and tech0007 :)  very helpful today the both of u. cheers11:52
theAtomsoundray, thanks :)11:53
jotilpvh: doing a dd?11:53
theAtombye11:53
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tech0007:)11:53
lewis1711soundray, was using both gnome and xfce4 with no probs11:53
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soundraylewis1711: you may have inadvertently rewritten your /etc/X11/xorg.conf as you installed packages11:53
lewis1711ahh11:54
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soundraylewis1711: the command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' opens a wizard that lets you configure X. Most options you will just accept the default, but pay attention when you come to the monitor section.11:55
soundraylewis1711: like I said, ideally you'd have the specs for your display.11:55
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t3318_hi11:56
kidalabamamy crontab sendin mails11:56
kidalabamaCron <root@alp2-laptop> cd /usr/share/dtc/admin && nice -n+20 /usr/share/dtc/admin/rrdtool.sh >> /var/log/dtc.log11:56
kidalabamacd: 1: can't cd to /usr/share/dtc/admin11:56
t3318_anyone know how to customize GCompris interface? I can't find any glade file11:56
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lewis1711I have the xconfigure-xserver thing open. what next?:/11:57
kidalabama Cron <root@alp2-laptop> cd /usr/share/dtc/admin && nice -n+20 /usr/share/dtc/admin/rrdtool.sh >> /var/log/dtc.log11:57
kidalabama cd: 1: can't cd to /usr/share/dtc/admi11:57
soundraylewis1711: have you got your monitor specs?11:57
soundray!repeat | kidalabama11:57
ubotukidalabama: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience11:57
t3318_anyone know how to customize GCompris interface? I can't find any glade file11:57
lewis1711alas no. I am a poor student and this monitor is some ancient secondhand CRT pos;)11:57
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soundraylewis1711: what resolution do you want to use?11:58
lewis17111024x76811:58
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soundraylewis1711: do you have the model name and number there?11:58
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soundraysmekerce: don't do this please. Do you have a question relating to ubuntu?11:59
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lewis1711ViewSonic E70. looks about 10 years old;)11:59
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soundraylewis1711: give me a second11:59
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soundrayThanks Mez, he's quit12:00
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lewis1711all this spamming is wrecking havoc on my 640x480 display:D:D12:00
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tarelerulzmy wireless card works under windows and It don't work under ubuntu ,but it did work  and I use ndiswrapper and windows drivers for it.  Now my wireless card don't work and I can connect o my wireless router . I was thinking about use  static ip  subnet mast and default gateway  for ubuntu . I am wondering is that a good idea or anyone thing I would take more ?12:01
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soundraylewis1711: go through the wizard and accept all the defaults. When you get to the monitor settings, select the "Advanced" mode. For horizsync, enter "30-70". For vertrefresh, enter "50-160" (not the quotes, just the numbers)12:03
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gordonjcpoh, speaking of resolutions, is there a way to set the screen refresh rate from the command line?12:03
lewis1711soundray, okay here's the thing. xconfigure doesn't come up with wizard for me. it asks me to select what company graphics card I have, tells me to enter a name, and then it stops.12:04
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pvhjotil: yeah, i think my dd is almost done12:04
soundraygordonjcp: not really. Based on your xorg settings, it will select the highest refresh that's compatible at startup.12:04
pvhjotil: yep, just another minute or so left12:05
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soundraylewis1711: in that case, see if you can manage to put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:05
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comicinkerhi!12:06
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jotilpvh: i am curious. should it work, i will know what to do in such situations.12:06
gordonjcpsoundray: actually, it doesn't seem to pay any attention to my xorg.conf settings at all12:06
thelonecabbageIs there a way to have xinemera detect when an external monitor is plugged into a laptop and only extend the screen then?12:06
comicinkerI have a little problem with tracker: it cannot find anything, but it is all already indexed. can somebody help me?12:06
pvhjotil: yeah. i'll keep you in the loop. are you a regular in this channel?12:06
tarelerulzThe  ip and subnet mast and the default , I am getting it from the wireless connection under windows  so I know they work ,but I don't know if the Linux  program works like that if it can't auto find those settings.  What I am asking  really is I can get the ip and subnet mask and default for my wireless connect ,but I get them automatically from the router if I imputed  those in ubuntu as static setting would that work or be likey to work12:07
soundraygordonjcp: what's your graphics card and driver?12:07
jotilpvh: i will hopefully become.12:07
comicinkercan somebody help me with my tracker problem?12:07
soundraylewis1711: what does the screen look like -- does it go back to the command prompt?12:07
pvhjotil: well, hopefully you'll have the opportunity to pass the knowledge on then12:08
soundraycomicinker: ask in #ubuntu+1 please12:08
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gordonjcpsoundray: some flavour of geforce 4, nvidia binary driver12:08
gordonjcpsoundray: it's mostly ok, but when I exit RTCW:ET it leaves the screen set to 1680x1050/50Hz12:08
jotilpvh: irc help channels are such good places to learn12:08
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gordonjcpand I'd like it to leave it on 1680x1050/55Hz12:08
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soundraygordonjcp: give /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.txt.gz a good read12:08
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pvhjotil: depends12:08
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lewis1711soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40691/12:09
gordonjcpsoundray: did that, didn't see anything massively helpful12:09
pvhjotil: you've got to ask questions people know the answers to but aren't sick of answering12:09
gordonjcpsoundray: I figured the easiest way would be to work out what the screen res selector does, and stick that at the end of the wrapper that runs et12:09
gordonjcp;-)12:09
jotilpvh: agreed12:09
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SuperLaggordonjcp: try commenting out the entries for nvidia in /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video12:10
smmagicAnyone remember how to register?12:10
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soundraylewis1711: that's not what I needed. Do a 'gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and copy and paste the entire file.12:10
SuperLaggordonjcp: and reboot12:10
theAtomIs it possible to install Opera on Gutsy?12:10
RZIMwhere would i get Event.pm ? for Irc12:10
soundraylewis1711: to that site of course12:10
jotiltheAtom: googled it?12:10
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smmagicWhy does it keep telling me to wait 120 secs before register12:10
theAtomjotil, Opera website doesnt have a version for Gutsy. only for Feisty12:11
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pvhtheAtom: this is really an #ubuntu+1 conversation, but it probably works fine12:11
tech0007theAtom...ask pipz from #ubuntu+1..maybe they know somethin12:11
SuperLagtheAtom: jotil: Opera works for me12:11
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jotilsmmagic: because you registered another nick just a bit ago?12:11
lewis1711ha, oh right, sorry soundray, must be close to that time of the night;)12:11
lewis1711http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40693/12:11
Z1mmYanyone know12:11
smmagicNope12:11
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smmagicWhat do I type again12:11
theAtomtech0007, ok :)12:11
smmagicI probably messed up12:12
jotilSuperLag: the feisty one?12:12
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theAtomSuperLag, what ubuntu u use?12:12
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ePaxIs it possible to watch web-tv with miro? Or some other program?12:12
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SuperLagjotil: yep12:12
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SuperLagtheAtom: Feisty originally, but I upgraded to Gutsy12:13
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soundraylewis1711: what do you get from 'ls -rt /etc/X11/xorg.conf?* | tail -n 1'?12:13
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smmagicThere we are12:14
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lewis1711soundray, terminal just comes back with ls -rt /etc/X11/xorg.conf?* | tail -n 112:14
lewis1711whoops12:14
lewis1711I mean12:14
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lewis1711it comes up with nothing12:15
SuperLagjotil: I didn't build it from source. I used the .deb file for Feisty, and did dpkg -i thatdotdebfile.deb (don't remember it's exact name)12:15
lewis1711nothing happens12:15
soundraylewis1711: just returns the prompt?12:15
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lewis1711yes12:16
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lewis1711returns the prompt sounds better than nothing happens. *writes that one down*;)12:16
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SuperLagsoundray: out of curiosity, why have him return tail on issuing an ls command?12:16
jotilSuperLag: thank you for the information12:16
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SuperLagjotil: certainly12:16
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soundraylewis1711: "nothing happens" could mean it's waiting for input12:17
SuperLagsoundray: aren't you wanting him to get the output of a file's contents, rather than a directory listing?12:17
lewis1711ah12:17
soundraySuperLag: I wanted the most recent xorg.conf backup, if any12:17
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SuperLagsoundray: ahh... okay. Makes more sense. :)12:17
joelitoanyone knows what today's gutsy updates were for?12:18
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lewis1711soundray can I just replace 640x480 in my config file with what I want?12:18
soundraylewis1711: I think your xorg.conf is the result of running nvidiaconfig or a similar utility. Can you recall doing that?12:18
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lewis1711no. I installed the nvidea driver, that's it. and I did nothing in kde except let synaptic install it and try and change my screen resolution12:19
SuperLagsoundray: I had issues with Nvidia, as well. Commenting out the entries for nvidia in /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video did the trick. However, this assumes you already have a viable xorg.conf from some means.12:19
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SuperLaglewis1711: how did you install the nvidia driver?12:20
soundraySuperLag: do you happen to know the true name of the nvidia utility that creates the config file?12:20
SuperLagI believe it is nvidia-xconfig12:21
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lewis1711superlag, through restricted driver manager12:21
ikoniaSuperLag: I didn't think that actually created a config file, just in memory12:21
soundraylewis1711: please try running that, ie. gksudo nvidia-xconfig12:21
SuperLagikonia: It does create a file, and backs up your current file12:22
dag_I removed Adobe program first then Wine, now I'm stuck with folder under "Programs" on the bar. Under "Programs" I find "Wine > Adobe > Blabla > Blabla.exe" How I remove it?12:22
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jotilnvidia-xconfig it is12:22
dag_Completly.12:22
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jotilheh12:22
soundrayThanks jotil12:22
jetscreamerupdate-menus12:22
dag_jetscreamer: how i do this? i have ubuntu 7.1012:22
erUSULdag_: right click on the menu and choose edit12:23
erUSUL!gutsy | dag_12:23
ubotudag_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information12:23
lewis1711soundray, I've done that, it seems to have all gone through, ( backed up file, new x configuration file written etc)12:23
[per0las] is there some oher software that not the amsn or mercury that suport webcam?!12:23
dag_erUSUL: found it. thanks.12:23
SuperLaglewis1711: humor me.12:23
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soundraylewis1711: did you get to make any resolution settings?12:23
SuperLaglewis1711: comment out the entries for nvidia in /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video12:24
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soundraySuperLag: I don't think that fixes any problem that lewis1711 has12:24
lewis1711I'm not sure what comment out means, sorry SuperLag12:24
lewis1711oh12:25
soundraylewis1711: let's worry about this later.12:25
lewis1711soundray, I got to make no resolution settings12:25
soundraylewis1711: did you get to make any resolution settings in the config utility?12:25
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lewis1711wait...the config utility?12:25
dag_How can I remove "Examples" folder in the home folder?12:25
pvhjotil: wish me luck. later.12:25
lewis1711as in, the text config file?12:26
soundraylewis1711: no, as in gksudo nvidia-xconfig12:26
jotilpvh: best of luck dude. later.12:26
SuperLagsoundray: http://pastie.caboo.se/10727512:26
lewis1711no, it just gave me12:26
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lewis1711Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".12:26
lewis1711Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'12:26
lewis1711New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'12:26
lewis1711and that was that12:26
lewis1711whoops sorry12:26
SuperLagsoundray: that was the *only* way I've been able to get Nvidia to work on Gutsy, in spite of all other efforts12:26
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Odd-rationaledag_: right-click and select ""Move to trash."12:27
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lewis1711Superlag, Nvidia was working absolutely fine before I installed KDE. but I'm in feisty.12:27
soundraySuperLag: nvidia works for lewis1711 though. Just not at the right resolution12:27
jotilSuperLag: after the upgrade the nvidia broke?12:27
SuperLagjotil: yep, for me12:28
lewis1711yeah, I can only get one resolution. before i nstalled kde I could use whatever reso I wanted12:28
dag_Odd-rationale: that dont work!12:28
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Odd-rationaledag_:Are you using the Live CD?12:28
dag_no12:28
SuperLagdag_: ALT-F2, run alacarte, and in that menu right-click on the entry you want to get rid of, and select Delete12:28
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soundraylewis1711: could you pastebin the output of 'ls /etc/X11' please12:29
a-atwood_lewis1711: just for future reference, make an RCS dir there instead of a backup and do 'ci -l' on the file.  version control: it's a beautiful thing.  8)12:29
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dag_SuperLag: It's not there. It's in my Home folder, the folder "Examples" that always follows Ubuntu, want that to be gone.12:30
JediMasterHi guys, is it possible to use rsync via ssh to copy files and retain the original uid/gid when there is no password set on the root user, as this normally requires root privs?12:30
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ikoniaJediMaster you will return the uid/gid with te preserve permissions option, however that is worthless if the uid/gid mapping to user is not the same on the target machine12:30
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SuperLagdag_: where does that show up at, that you're wanting to get rid of it?12:30
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SuperLagdag_: only in your home folder?12:31
dag_SuperLag: homefolder/username folder12:31
dag_yes12:31
g0dd3sshai friendz ihave feisty with gnome, if i install kde from synaptic will i get to choose between the two12:31
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dag_SuperLag: /usr/share/example-content12:31
SuperLagdag_: rm -rf ~/Examples12:31
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JediMasterikonia: that's not a problem, I have transferred them across to a backup machine with uid/gid intact, but it's getting them back on to the ubuntu machine that is the issue12:31
WaltzingAlongg0dd3ss: yes12:31
soundrayg0dd3ss: yes, at the gdm login you can choose a session.12:31
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ikoniaJediMaster man rsync and look at the preserve option12:31
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g0dd3ssoh okey thanks alot WaltzingAlong  and soundray12:32
SuperLagdag_: but take care that you're referring to the correct path, when you're using rm -rf.12:32
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dag_SuperLag: thanks12:32
JediMasterikonia: it works already, I know the syntax, the issue is that I need to be able to copy it to the ubuntu server as root, and afaik you can't tell it to sudo12:32
lewis1711soundray, it's telling me I'm spamming the paste bin. I've had no luck. think I'd better call it a night. thankyou for your help never the less12:32
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ikoniaJediMaster ahhh, I missed that part. Sudo isn't the issue its the issue that a.) ubuntu has no root password and b.) root logins on ssh is disabled. You'll have to set a root password on ubuntu and enable root login via ssh12:33
SuperLaglewis1711: You can try pastie.caboo.se, as well.12:33
soundraylewis1711: just before you give up: in that listing, was there anything that looked like a backup of xorg.conf >12:33
soundray?12:33
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JediMasterikonia: thought as much, was hoping that there was another way =)12:33
fa-biosciao12:33
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ikoniaJediMaster sorry12:33
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lewis1711soundray, yes there was12:34
JediMasterikonia: np, just writing up some backup/restore documentation12:34
Omniushow do i get firestarter to stop blocking me logging into my ssh server LAN?12:34
lewis1711xorg.conf.backup12:34
ikonialewis1711: allow port 22 for ssh12:34
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c?12:34
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soundraylewis1711: one thing you could try is to backup your current one, then copy one that looks good to be /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:34
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lewis1711ikonia I am a noob btw;)12:34
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ikonialewis1711 ? so ?12:35
askvictorWould it be inappropriate to ask for nvidia (non-free) support here?12:35
ikonialewis1711: your using firestarter -so you must have set it up. Open port 2212:35
lewis1711so I have no idea what that means. honestly. I vaguely know what a port is. I have no idea how to change it12:35
Odd-rationaleI've been reading about Lubi from the website and I'm trying to understand exactly what is does. Does it mean that if my current installation gets messed up I can boot from the Lubi and reinstall Ubuntu without the CD?12:35
soundrayikonia: you are talking to the wrong guy12:35
kbrooksOdd-rationale, no.12:35
lewis1711hahaha;)12:35
ikonialewis1711 then why are you running firestarter ?12:35
lewis1711cold but honest.12:35
ikoniasoundray am I ?12:35
lewis1711firestarter?12:35
kbrooksOdd-rationale, er, let me rethink.12:35
lewis1711lol12:35
ikoniasoundray: my tterminal is lagging12:35
ikonialewis1711: apologies if your not the guy asking about firestarer.12:36
Omniusnah thats me12:36
soundraylewis1711: ikonia is addressing you, but means Omnius12:36
lewis1711ah12:36
ikonialewis1711 apologies12:36
ikoniasoundray thank you, my terminal looks like lewis1711 was asking12:36
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lewis1711soundray where would i find a xkrkgconfig file that looks good?12:36
lewis1711no worries12:36
kbrooksOdd-rationale, well, if your installation is messed up in an non-hard drive related way (no hd crash), then of course you can do that12:36
dag_in digiKam as I enable the Color Managment and I go to "Workspace, Input, Soft Proof,"... What do I put there, and how? Can't seem to make it work :( *cry*12:36
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Odd-rationalekbrooks: OK12:36
Omniusikona: is firestarter needed?12:37
ikoniaOmnius open port 22 for ssh then. Apologies for the confusion12:37
soundraylewis1711: try this: 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.borked ; sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf'12:37
lewis1711ModeLine       "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525  can I not just edit that to include other resolutions12:37
soundraylewis1711: any errors?12:37
dag_It says I need ICC Profiles!12:37
ikoniaOmnius: depends where your machine is and what its doing.12:37
lewis1711ok soundray, one more for the road:D12:37
soundraylewis1711: no, it doesn't work that way12:37
kbrooksOdd-rationale, but if you just changed your hd partitioning, no you cant12:37
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fa-biosciao ragazzi! scusate qualcuno usa AMULE di adunanza???12:38
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ikonia!it >fa-bios12:38
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ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:38
lewis1711soundray, no errors, gave me the prompt again12:38
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Odd-rationalekbrooks: So you mean if I can still boot into Ubuntu and everything but for some reason just wanted to reinstall Ubuntu, I can use Lubi to reinstall Ubuntu without the CD. Is that correct?12:39
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soundraylewis1711: it has worked then. Do a Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to force-restart X and see if you have your old resolution back.12:39
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kbrooksOdd-rationale, well, you have to punch in a few commands to do that (read: no easy way to reinstall without the CD)12:40
lewis1711thankssound ray, will try. brb12:40
MissyHey Geeks12:40
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Odd-rationaleOK, I understand. Thanks!12:40
Omniusikona: i've made policies to allow ssh but firestarter just wont let me connect to my server on my LAN (server has no net access)12:40
Missytalk to me.i am gettin bored12:40
kbrooksOdd-rationale, the commands arent too hard to find if you google enough.12:40
soundrayMissy: go to #ubuntu-offtopic then12:40
Missyhow?12:41
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soundrayMissy: enter /join #ubuntu-offtopic12:41
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lewis1711soundray, no luck. thanks for your help anyway. I'll post it on the forums or something. cheers12:41
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Missythx hun12:41
Odd-rationalekbrooks: Might look into that.12:41
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soundraylewis1711: too bad, sorry.12:41
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Missysays illegal channel name12:42
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soundrayMissy: misspelt it?12:42
jetscreamerjust right click on it and hit join12:43
Missynah i jus copied12:43
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Missyam in Opera browser12:43
kbrooksOdd-rationale, but basdically you are really installing ubuntu-server from the internet and then installing ubuntu-desktop. from the hard drive, this involves some "complexity", but this is what the alternate install CD hides, so don't worry too much12:43
soundrayMissy: try typing it in12:43
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Missywhy cant u jus talk to me for while12:44
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kbrooksOdd-rationale, er, by ubuntu-server I meant to say basic CLI install12:44
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ubotuMissy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:44
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soundraybuki: don't do this please. Do you have a question?12:44
dgjonesbuki, please stop12:44
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NedskiHello all, whats the command for listing all the java versions installed on the machine?12:49
Nedskibecause i just installed 1.512:49
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Nedskiand 1.42 is selected as the working one12:49
penguincentralNedski: if you give me a moment, i'll find it for you12:49
raddyIs the forth coming version of ubuntu support delta updates?12:50
Nedskithanks penguin12:50
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volantaresgreetings ubuntians12:50
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penguincentralNedski: sudo update-alternatives --config java12:50
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Nedskithanks penguin12:51
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penguincentralNedski: that's ok :)12:52
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dgravotBonjour, o diable puis-je modifier ma variable d'environnement PATH pour lui rajouter un chemin ?01:00
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jodi2hello guys01:00
dgjones!fr | dgravot01:00
ubotudgravot: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:00
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dgravotoops, en effet, je me suis tromp de channel, sorry !01:01
WaltzingAlongi had 512MB ram in my system but recently changed the total ram to 1024MB. is there any setting i need to change to make good use of the additional ram?01:02
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smmagicAs long as it is reconised01:02
jodi2anybody know a good way to back up my server, ive tweaked it and its working perfectly i'd like to do an image or mirror backup01:02
smmagicShould be working itself01:02
dgjones!backup > jodi201:02
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ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning01:03
jodi2!cloning01:03
ubotuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate01:03
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WaltzingAlong!sbackup01:04
ubotusbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe01:04
chervatell me a program that supports dvd menus and play from folder options ?01:04
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LSD-25damn. is there ANY timeout for unused nicknames to expire?01:11
LSD-25grr01:11
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smmagicI never knew that01:11
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WaltzingAlongLSD-25 unregistered nicks?01:11
Festplattei could use any cryptic nickname to make sure it isn't been taken already01:11
Festplattethe last 5 i chose were taken already01:12
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Festplattemeh01:12
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AbantaHA!01:12
gregshallardwhat chmod number should /home/user have?01:12
WaltzingAlongthink different(ly)?01:12
Abantagregshallard: 700 imo01:12
smmagicAnyone know why the keyboard always stop responding on java?01:13
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smmagicGetting annoying01:13
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astro76gregshallard, 755 is default but you can change to 700 to make your home private01:13
arunis there anything i can do about the ugly right click menu for flash files?01:13
gregshallardthanks Abanta and astro76 :)01:13
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smmagicIs there anyway to stop the keyboard from freezing01:14
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Abantagregshallard: you could also define to not want to have systemwide readable home directories so you could use 700 to make sure only you get into it01:14
Abantagregshallard uhm01:14
Abantathere is a system wide setting01:15
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Abantafor new accounts to be created01:15
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Abantawell01:15
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Abantaat least now my atheros wlan adapter works flawlessly with ubuntu 7.1001:15
Abanta\o/01:15
Abantanot sure if i can use it already if i did not login yet, like use it on the console01:16
Abantahm01:16
Abantathis NetworkManager thing still is a bit weird to me01:16
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Abantabrb getting coffee01:16
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WaltzingAlongmocha01:16
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loca|hosthello all01:17
loca|hostanyone know a way to install atheros wifi cards ?01:17
WaltzingAlong!wifi01:17
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:17
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Abantaloca|host: did you try if it just works with 7.10?01:17
arunIf I have a separate /home partition, how do i install gutsy so as to not overwrite the partition?01:18
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Abantaarun: don't mount it while choosing manual partition01:18
loca|host7.10 is beta, not ?01:18
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erUSULloca|host: RC now01:18
Abantaloca|host: it's in release candidate state and it works for me01:18
arunAbanta: That's it?01:18
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Abantaarun: think so...01:18
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Abantaarun: just define a root partition and some swap01:19
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loca|hostok am going to upgrade so01:19
WaltzingAlongarun: select to have it mounted as /home but do not Format it01:19
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Abantaloca|host: well01:19
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Abantaloca|host: if you like to use your already existing home partition just mount it as home not formatting it in the installer partitioner01:19
[chr0n0s] hello all01:19
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loca|hostAbanta, can you reming me its codename so i can update my sources.list ?01:19
Abantaloca|host: codename? wha? :))))01:19
loca|hosthahahhaa01:19
iNoobwhat command you use to check any hidden files on home01:20
arunWaltzingAlong: alright. is it better to upgrade from feisty or to do a fresh install of gutsy?01:20
loca|hostknew it :D01:20
iNoobLs~ /home?01:20
opexocWhy the same script of cron is in /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc1.d and /etc/rc0.d?01:20
Abantaloca|host: i'm A-BAN-T4 of Borg, resistance is futile! BEEP!01:20
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erUSUL!upgrade | loca|host01:20
ubotuloca|host: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:20
protocol1arun, fresh is always better01:20
Abantaloca|host: oh now i know what you mean, you wanna upgrade to 7.10?01:20
arunprotocol1: If I install it fresh, what about all the application settings in my /home ?01:21
loca|hostAbanta, yes01:21
smmagicWhen gutsy coming out?01:21
loca|hostfrom feisty01:21
atlfalcons866#ubuntu+101:21
[chr0n0s] protocol1 : but you will save some hassle of configuring if you upgrade01:21
erUSULloca|host: just changing sources.list and doing dist-upgrade is not the safest way of doing things01:21
[chr0n0s] smmagic : 18th OCT01:21
arunprotocol1: i assume all the apps will also be upgraded, right?01:21
atlfalcons866smmagic: october 1801:21
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protocol1yes01:21
WaltzingAlongarun: do not format the /home partition. then all of the settings and files remain there01:21
smmagicWhy upgrade right now then?01:21
protocol1upgrade so you don't loose your stuff :)01:21
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smmagic3 days isn't long01:21
[chr0n0s] smmagic : the RC is out01:21
andrilhello all01:21
Abantaloca|host: uhh. should be possible with just editing sources.list to your needs and then doing something like "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade"01:21
andrilthe RC i great =)01:21
Abantameh01:21
Abantayeah01:21
[chr0n0s] i am gonna fresh install, coz my present install is screwed up01:22
loca|hostAbanta, sed -i 's/feisty/gutsy/g' sources.list;apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade01:22
loca|hostthat should do it01:22
andriljust waiting for 3 more days01:22
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arunWaltzingAlong: Yeah, I know the settings remain there. What I'm unclear about is, if the programs are going to be upgraded, what happens to all the old settings? Are they still applicable? Are they overwritten?01:22
Pici!rc01:22
atlfalcons866is a 433Mhz celeron fast enough to run ubuntu01:22
ubotuGutsy Gibbon (7.10) Release Candidate information and release notes can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc - ISOs and Torrents at http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ - If you regularly update, then you're running the latest version - The RC is development software and as such unstable, support *ONLY* in #ubuntu+101:22
loca|hostbut erUSUL says its not safe01:22
Abantaloca|host: hehehe01:22
Abantaatlfalcons866: depends on what you try to do with it01:22
[chr0n0s] atlfalcons866 : i believe it is01:22
atlfalcons866just web broswing and music and email01:23
Abantaatlfalcons866: be sure to start with failsafe graphics mode and later use some minimalistic window manager01:23
PriceChild!Offtopic01:23
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!01:23
WaltzingAlongarun: most settings are stored per user so they all remain intact (they are stored at /home/user/.program)01:23
PriceChild[chr0n0s] , I hope you're not actively suggesting someone should use gutsy right now?01:23
atlfalcons866may be xubuntu will run better on it01:23
Abantaatlfalcons866: will do. it will not be a performant experience tho. but again, be sure to choose a MINIMALST window manager01:23
[chr0n0s] PriceChild : nope01:23
Abantaatlfalcons866: fluxbox for example01:23
atlfalcons866what about xfce01:23
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Abantaatlfalcons866: you can just choose your window manager after install. no need to go xubuntu....01:23
[chr0n0s] PriceChild : i am waiting for 3 days01:23
WaltzingAlongarun: if you "install fresh" then you keep your home partition as is (do not format it) but format / partition, where you would install ubuntu (xubuntu, kubuntu,...)01:23
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atlfalcons866it has 384mb ram01:24
Abantaatlfalcons866: it's dope. i love xfce. i believe there are some more lightweight wm's out tho...01:24
Abantaenuff01:24
[chr0n0s] WaltzingAlong : i think that is not possible01:24
jkp_can someone tell me why this might leak?01:24
jkp_http://rafb.net/p/PR06OW97.html01:24
arunWaltzingAlong: Say my settings for program x are in my /home directory. Once I install gutsy, it will be a new version of the same program. So what happens to the settings for the older version? I assume they won't apply to the new version? Do they get upgraded too?01:24
Abantaatlfalcons866: should do the job very good01:24
atlfalcons866ok01:24
jkp_deleaker on windows is telling me that the ifstream is leaking01:24
andrilupgrade = not so well - fresh install = > than vista =)01:24
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jkp_it makes not sense if iostreams use RIAA01:24
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atlfalcons866what window manager does puppy linux use01:24
Abantaatlfalcons866: its not the fastest thing but it should work :)01:24
jkp_oops!01:24
WaltzingAlongarun: most should work01:24
atlfalcons866i know01:24
jkp_wrong channel01:24
Abantaatlfalcons866: not sure. fluxbox or so?01:24
atlfalcons866ok01:24
WaltzingAlongarun: even if you upgrade, same thing01:24
arunalright01:25
Abantaatlfalcons866: fluxbox is very pretty and fucking fast.01:25
atlfalcons866thanks01:25
arunthanks01:25
WaltzingAlong!ohmy | Abanta01:25
ubotuAbanta: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.01:25
arunis the video player crash issue fixed with compiz in gutsy?01:25
Abantaarun: you can use mplayer with -vo x11 i think01:25
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Abantaarun: that worked for me hehe01:26
Abantadamn. fucking xchat. gotta switch to irssi.01:26
Abantabrb01:26
Abanta:)=01:26
Abanta:)01:26
PriceChild!ohmy | Abanta01:26
ubotuAbanta: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.01:26
Abantameh :)01:27
arunAbanta: But XV doesnt work? x11 video looks like crap01:27
Abantaarun: why should it look like crap?01:27
Abantaarun: it looks dope. i just needed another option that let me resize the window01:27
Abantaheh01:27
arunAbanta: XV renders videos much better and uses less memory01:27
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Abantaarun: ah. didnt know that.01:27
Abantaarun: maybe you find a way to use xv too01:27
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Abantahmm01:27
PriceChildAbanta, could we please refrain from the drug references and now you've got my attention, other questionable words. :)01:27
arunAbanta: are you using gutsy?01:27
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Abantaarun: since a few hours. yeah.01:28
AbantaPriceChild: wha? :)01:28
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AbantaPriceChild: drug references? :)01:28
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arunAbanta: and does xv video work for you with compiz enabled?01:29
AbantaPriceChild: i was just talking about getting some coffee some lines ago. sorry. if i really talked about drugs again i'm really sorry. :)01:29
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Abantaarun: it was either xv or x11 and it worked. yeah. gotta figure that out since i just reinstalled things here using gutsy.01:29
AJ--ei guys.. how can i update to gnone 2.2001:29
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PriceChild!offtopic | Abanta01:29
ubotuAbanta: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!01:29
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Abantaarun: will keep you updated as i configure it...01:30
opexocCan you tell me why script for cron in /etc/init.d is linked in /etc/rc0.d, /etc/rc1.d nd /etc/rc2.d?01:30
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AbantaPriceChild: ?01:30
PriceChildAbanta, please keep him updated in #ubuntu+1 :)01:30
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AbantaPriceChild: meh :)01:30
wyxmer:)01:30
Abanta*loughs*01:30
Abantahaha01:30
RunOnDosdoes anyone noe how to check hidden files on home, the command that is01:30
PriceChildRunOnDos, ls -a ~01:31
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RunOnDosttytyty01:31
RunOnDoson home01:31
PriceChildRunOnDos, the ~ means home01:31
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csc`~ is hom01:31
RunOnDosTYTYTYT01:31
csc`home*01:31
AJ--guys.. how can i update my GNONE to 2.2001:31
PriceChildAJ--, why do you want to do that?01:31
PriceChild!highno | AJ--01:31
AJ--just want to try the latest styles01:32
WaltzingAlongAJ--: when you view the about /version, squint so you see whatever version as 2.2001:32
ubotuAJ--: A higher version number does not mean that it's better. Especially with packages such as the linux kernel. The packages in the Ubuntu repositories are stable and will work fine. You should have a better reason than "newer" when considering compiling from source or using 3rd party repos.01:32
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WaltzingAlongthere really should be some formalized system for taking the 'power' users into 'small time' devs01:33
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kondor101wondering if anyone has tried 7.10 out with an MSI mobo that has built in gfx yet, I know they have trouble with the 3D in the past01:33
WaltzingAlong!gutsy | kondor10101:34
ubotukondor101: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information01:34
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kondor101about as much use as chocolate fire guard lol, was only wondering01:35
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PriceChildkondor101, go to #ubuntu+1 and wonder there as it suggests :)01:35
arunkalekondor101: i have one of those01:35
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arunkaleit has a built in nvidia geforce graphics card01:35
kondor101ah, now i see it.  :)01:35
kondor101ty guys01:35
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lunzhow do i disable my compiz-fusion?01:36
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PriceChildlunz, system > preferences > desktop effects01:37
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atlfalcons866will i still get updates if i compile a kernel01:38
lunzi dont have desktop effects :((01:38
PriceChildlunz, if it isn't there then go to #ubuntu+1 you gutsy user :)01:38
PriceChildatlfalcons866, why are you compiling a kernel?01:38
atlfalcons866speed boost01:38
PriceChild!highno | atlfalcons86601:38
ubotuatlfalcons866: A higher version number does not mean that it's better. Especially with packages such as the linux kernel. The packages in the Ubuntu repositories are stable and will work fine. You should have a better reason than "newer" when considering compiling from source or using 3rd party repos.01:38
lunzxserver is too slow now,i need close compiz01:38
PriceChildatlfalcons866, whatever you get will most probably be a placebo effect.01:38
soundrayatlfalcons866: it's negligible01:38
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atlfalcons866ok01:38
PriceChildatlfalcons866, you WILL do more damage than its worth.01:39
lunzi am using feisty fawn01:39
atlfalcons866ok01:39
PiciA negligible increase not worth the time.01:39
atlfalcons866thnks bye01:39
PriceChildlunz, metacity --replace01:39
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erUSULPriceChild: that factoid ( highno ) is priceless ;)01:39
lunzpricechild:thank you very2 much01:40
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: of course you may find the process rewarding in itself, not necessary as a normal user though01:40
PriceChilderUSUL, not quire priceless... as a price made it :P01:40
lunzgee i am back again...01:40
soundrayPrizeworthy then01:40
erUSULPriceChild: XD01:40
sudhansh1 PriceChild:to use chmod should i change d directory?01:41
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PriceChildsudhansh1, no need01:41
PriceChildsudhansh1, you can chmod /path/to/wherever01:41
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RedWolf_Hi... I've got a  very strange problem.  I was running a program in wine one day and the proggy crashed.  Since that time my menubar(top/side) has been absolutely enormous and my bottom task bar has stayed normal.  Here is a screenshot http://www.jonkratzer.com/problem.png01:41
Abantaso what's a good way of auto starting an app when i log in from gdm to kde?01:42
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Abantaany auto start possibility in kde would be fine with me but i don't find one.01:42
chasmarangCan some help me - sound recorder doesn't record in feisty01:42
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MissyIt was Good01:43
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chasmarangChanServ: Can you help me - sound recorder doesn't record in feisty01:44
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g0dd3sshaii, how to stop kde opening all the things I had open when I last shut down?01:45
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lloekiAbanta, you will want to look for the Autostart folder under ~/.kde01:45
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arcil_is there a similiar music player like amarok but without gnome or kde libs?01:46
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WaltzingAlongg0dd3ss: referred to as a session01:46
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Abantalloeki: orly01:46
Abantalloeki: ;)01:46
nonickformehow can i find out what version of ubuntu a box has running?01:46
Abantalloeki: thank you :)01:46
soundraynonickforme: cat /etc/lsb-release01:47
nonickformesoundray, thanks.01:47
WaltzingAlongg0dd3ss: check kcontrol   then search for session or session manager01:47
lloekiarcil_, exaile01:47
g0dd3ssyer i found it thnx WaltzingAlong01:47
RedWolf_lol jeez I wish mine were that simple :(01:47
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Abantalloeki: can i just create a symlink there?01:47
arcil_lloeki: thank you01:48
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lloekiAbanta, sure01:48
cal_hi01:48
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Abantalloeki: cool ty01:48
lloekiAbanta, or drop a .desktop file, or a +x file01:48
cal_how can i stop a session with terminal?01:48
kbrooksquestion.01:48
soundrayRedWolf_: have you tried right-clicking and reconfiguring that panel?01:48
soundraycal_: what kind of session?01:48
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kbrooksum, firefox takes 10 seconds to start with no settings.01:48
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kbrooksand 5 seconds to start with settings01:49
cal_soundray: conky01:49
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kbrookswhat can i do about the latter case?01:49
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soundraycal_: what's that?01:49
RedWolf_soundray, yes I have01:49
kbrooksalso, is there a way to make xchat power efficient?01:49
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soundraycal_: you want to kill your system monitor?01:50
chris99hello01:51
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g0dd3sskillall conky?01:51
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cal_it s a tool to display system informationns on the desktop01:51
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soundraycal_: listen to g0dd3ss01:51
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cal_i will test it01:51
g0dd3ssthat what i do anyway01:51
soundrayRedWolf_: is this gnome?01:51
WaltzingAlongcal_: htop ?01:51
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RedWolf_soundray, yes it is.01:52
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chris99know a person here, a good tutorial for building a server with ubuntu server edition? sorry for my english, it isnt really good :-))01:52
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cal_whats htop??01:53
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RedWolf_running dual head displays, and even though each monitor is a seperate X sessio they both have the same troubles lol01:53
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tarvidany idea when on the 18th, the cd images will be available? Trying to plan a party and a very late in the day release would be problematic.01:53
philomath#alug01:54
WaltzingAlong!info htop p| cal_01:54
ubotucal_: htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3-1 (feisty), package size 43 kB, installed size 172 kB01:54
soundrayRedWolf_: you could log into a failsafe session and remove all of your gnome panel files01:54
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tarvidchris99, the server install cd offers a number of choices and for the most part server installation is point and cllick. The devil is in the details01:54
cal_ !info htop p| cal_01:55
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cal_what will you say to me with this command?01:55
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lloekitarvid, why don't you get the RC|beta ISOs, then update?01:55
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Picical_: look up at what ubotu said.01:55
anss1How do I sync and manage my Nokia N70 calendar etc on Ubuntu, over Bluetooth01:56
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RedWolf_soundray, can yo ube mor specific?01:56
tarvidlloeki, I need cds to hand out. The RTcs won't cut it.01:56
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rpj8Hey guys. Would changing my default file manager from nautilus to another cause my Desktop Environment to break?01:56
cal_ah okay i see it01:56
lloekitarvid, you could always download them just in case the isos are late01:56
cal_thanks01:56
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lloekitarvid, and I guess the timing will depend of your timezone too01:57
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soundrayRedWolf_: if you don't mind configuring gnome from scratch, choose a failsafe session at gdm and do a 'rm .gnome* .gconf*'. Then log out and into the normal session again.01:57
tarvidlloeki, the wiki suggests that they will be available for evening parties, I think I'll just take a chance. Need time to install on two laptops and test the cds, the drive 1000 miles to catch a 7:00 PM meeting01:57
RedWolf_oh boy. that'll be a pain..01:58
RedWolf_*sighs* thanks01:58
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soundrayRedWolf_: if you feel you've invested too much in your config already, only 'rm -r .gconf/apps/panel .gnome2/panel2.d' and any other panel-related files you can find.01:59
lloekitarvid, well then you could always try installing from the RCs if they're late, and download and hand over the final release later on01:59
soundrayRedWolf_: hint: find ~ -iname \*panel\*01:59
dgjonestarvid, does the wiki say which timezone its talking about  though, if its US evening timezone, that'd be late pretty late for a european event01:59
RedWolf_and what exactly will that do when I remove them01:59
soundrayRedWolf_: it'll use default settings next time you log in01:59
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tarviddgjones, good thought, they must be planning on European parties which should give me 5-7 hours advantage.02:00
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tarvidRedWolf_, have you tried creating a new user? make two and copy over config files until one breaks02:01
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dgjonestarvid, from memory, i think Feisty was available from late afternoon/early evening uk time (that info may help you), although the servers were slow due to the number of people connecting02:02
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daddy1987hi02:02
daddy1987i intalled02:02
daddy1987g++02:02
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RedWolf_no I havent tarvid02:02
soundray!enter | daddy198702:02
ubotudaddy1987: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!02:02
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rpj8Hey guys. Would changing my default file manager from nautilus to another cause my Desktop Environment to break?02:03
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daddy1987i installed g++.but it says command not found02:03
daddy1987wat to do??02:03
demon_sporkhow do I gzip my Ubuntu install and then restore it to a different partition?02:03
soundraydaddy1987: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:03
rpj8daddy1987: You most likely want build-essentials02:03
stefgrpj8: in gnome nautilus draws your desktop, manages desktop icons and automounting removable media .... so it would say, yes02:04
rpj8stefg: I thought as much. Thanks very much02:04
anss1How do I debug my USB problems?02:04
daddy1987ya it works thanx02:04
tattershow do I turn of wireless card so can install legacy driver  I get error  test@test-dektop:/proc$ sudo modprobe -r rt2x00pci     FATAL: Module rt2x00pci is in use02:04
soundraydemon_spork: why gzip, rather than copying the contents directly?02:04
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stefganss1: by first looking at dmesg and the systemlog for suspicious kernel meaages02:05
daddy1987how to install gtk??02:05
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stefg*messages02:05
lloekidemon_spork, you may want to boot from the livecd and use rsync -a02:05
rpj8stefg: So is there anyway that I'd be able to mix and match my windows decorator/manager with gnome?02:05
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arinomiI doubt it, rpj802:05
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soundraydaddy1987: install libgtk1.2-dev02:06
daddy1987how??02:06
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soundraydaddy1987: sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev    (or libgtk2.0-dev)02:06
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stefgrpj8: there is, but you need a good understanding of the components of your desktop and how they interact. What do you want to do?02:06
daddy1987i will try02:06
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rpj8stefg: Just a curious intermediate Ubuntu user. I wouldn't mind eventually setting up fluxbox rather than metacity within the GDE02:07
demon_sporksoundray, because I have operations I wish to perform that will format the whole hard drive02:07
demon_sporklloeki, please elaborate02:07
rpj8stefg: I know linux is highly customizable and I'd like to eventually be able to use it to its full potential02:07
stefgrpj8: rather look at openbox. it has provisisons to run as a metacity replacement, you'll get a gnome/openbox session choice in gdm02:08
soundraydemon_spork: partimage is a good program to use for imaging partitions.02:08
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daddy1987after unpacking gtk how to start it??????02:08
WaltzingAlongrpj8: then you will want to get away from the microcomputer02:09
lloekidemon_spork, rsync is a tool that syncs files to a destination. its -a flag preserves almost everything from symlinks to special files (like device files) and so on. you may use it from your live system, but you should not copy /proc, /dev and /sys as is. that's why I recommend booting from the livecd02:09
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rpj8stefg: ah, good infomation. would I jsut have to install from synaptic for that?02:09
soundraydemon_spork: if you do want to save just contents, try sbackup02:09
stefgrpj8: yup02:09
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rpj8WaltzingAlong: I'm sorry?02:09
soundraydaddy1987: you don't really know what gtk is, do you?02:09
rpj8stefg: Sweet deal. maybe I'll give that a go.02:09
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lunzhi,how to edit my meta-release file?02:10
demon_sporksoundray, I would like an exact duplicate of the file structure, I want the system to run when I reintroduce it to the harddrive02:10
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WaltzingAlongrpj8: linux can do more than just run a desktop computer02:10
daddy1987actually i wanna install a software which requires GTK02:10
daddy1987datz y i want it02:10
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soundraydaddy1987: what software?02:10
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rpj8WaltzingAlong: Oh ohm, this I know. I was mostly concerned with the eye-candy appeal as of now :)02:10
rpj8WaltzingAlong: After all, I'm only a college student.02:10
WaltzingAlong:D of course02:10
daddy1987Oxford dictionary02:10
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sjkwizar1hi02:11
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WaltzingAlonglo02:11
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sjkwizardhi02:11
rpj8WaltzingAlong: but I do understand: linux is highly customizable and very powerful.02:11
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lloekidemon_spork, so your duplication will be as simple as 'rsync -av /source /destination'02:11
WaltzingAlongmaybe you have heard that but how can you understand it without having customized it or used its power?02:11
demon_sporklloeki, not if that destination is a DVD02:12
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soundraydemon_spork: I think you'll be best served by partimage02:12
rpj8WaltzingAlong: Good point. But how would I have had the opportunity =/.02:12
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tatterssudo modprobe -r rt2x00pci FATAL: Module rt2x00pci is in use"        how do I remove module when in use?02:12
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lloekidemon_spork, good point02:13
stefgrpj8: but you have as well to understand that certain componenents only make sense in a given framework. so if you rip out nautilus, metacity and gnome-panel (all of which are just componenents) what's left of gnome?02:13
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soundraydemon_spork: note, you will have to update /etc/fstab and install grub02:13
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WaltzingAlongrpj8: so from here you start02:13
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lloekidemon_spork, but lookout for dvd fs filesize limit (should be 2GiB)02:14
demon_sporkthx for the help, I have to go now, I will be back tonight to try some of these methods02:14
rpj8stefg: I see. I'm not totally aware of just how complex gde is. I was mainly concerned with trying new things, and better becoming in control of my computer...02:14
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rpj8stefg: Only concerned with breaking it, mostly =p. a fresh install would be horrendous02:14
rpj8WaltzingAlong: Heh, I'm working on that =p02:14
soundraydaddy1987: there should be an INSTALL file that tells you how to install your software02:14
lloekirpj8, then just create a user for testing, so as not to break your regular account02:15
stefgrpj8: so a good way to learn more would be to examine dependencies... what does what? BTW. backups aren't a bad idea before you start tinkering :-)02:15
rpj8lloeki: Oh good point. Would setting up a different user make it so that different user would have a totally different environment?02:16
stefg!backup | rpj802:16
soundrayrpj8: I think you need a separate installation, or even machine, for testing things if you're that worried. Also consider setting up a good backup strategy02:16
uboturpj8: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning02:16
lloekirpj8, that's the point :)02:16
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rpj8phew, thanks everyone haha02:16
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Seiver`Damrosswhat was the command to get the IP again -_-02:17
PiciSeiver`Damross: ifconfig02:17
lloekirpj8, all non system settings being stored per user in dotted dirs, as long as you don't mess with system files, you're safe :)02:17
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lloekirpj8, with this one user can easily run kde and the other one gnome02:17
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rpj8lloeki: I see. so as long as I don't mess with /etc, /var... as long as I stick with messing with stuff in ~ I should be alright?02:18
lloekiyup02:18
mollitzhey, the ubuntu live cd crashed my raid 0, with win xp installation. someone knows something about this fault ?02:18
rpj8lloeki: Very helpful tip.Looks like I'll break open another user account02:18
stefgrpj8: get a virtualizer and do a install in vbox/vmware .... it's easy to go back / duplicate the install, so you can tinker, break things, have fun and never endager your actual install02:18
mollitzi ment fault02:18
rpj8stefg: I'll definitely look into that, too.02:19
lloekirpj8, you can even set up some session handling via .xininitrc or /etc/X11/Sessions, so that one can select the DM started on login02:19
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rpj8lloeki: .xininitrc?02:20
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mollitzin hardware boot controller it showed me a new configuration, and the old raid 0. the new coonfiguration used 1 HDD ( ive got 2 ) and cause of the the old one (raid 0 ) showed errors02:21
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daddy1987hi!nothing displayed on widget after i installed gtk02:21
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daddy1987while installing software02:21
mollitzi deleted the new configuration and now the old raid 0 is "working"02:21
mollitzit shows functionally but my win xp doesnt boot02:21
damianlhi, how do i change which soundcard flash outputs through, i have 2 soundcards02:21
mollitzs.o. can help me?02:21
lloekirpj8, .xinitrc is the file called on when you run startx from a VT, or it can be started by gdm/kdm/xdm02:21
soundraydaddy1987: there should be an INSTALL file that tells you how to install your software02:22
lloekiit's a user file02:22
rpj8lloeki: I see. slocate shows that's in etc/X11/xinit right?02:22
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lloekiand a shell script. this way you can just kill metacity and start fluxbox02:22
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lloekirpj8, that's the default one, when~/.xinitrc is not present02:22
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arunkaleanyone using virtualbox on gutsy?02:23
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rpj8lloeki: If I were to touch .xinitrc and leave it blank, would that cause gdm to just go "wtf" and not load up my desktop manager?02:23
lloekirpj8, totally. gdm would execute nothing but oblivin, and then return back to gdm02:24
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rpj8lloeki: Alright. I won't touch that then until I read up some docs about it lol02:24
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damianlhi, how do i change which soundcard flash outputs through, i have 2 soundcards02:24
damianlhi, how do i change which soundcard flash outputs through, i have 2 soundcards02:24
daddy1987Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to `GtkEntry'02:25
daddy1987Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkentry.c: line 534 (gtk_entry_get_text): assertion `entry != NULL' failed.02:25
daddy1987Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to `GtkEntry'02:25
daddy1987Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkentry.c: line 534 (gtk_entry_get_text): assertion `entry != NULL' failed02:25
Pici!paste | daddy198702:25
ubotudaddy1987: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:25
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daddy1987dese are d errors02:26
daddy1987wat to do02:26
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lloekirpj8, good attitude :) , you will mainly want to understand the 'exec' keyword inside this file.02:26
lloekirpj8, now I'll wish you good luck in your tweaking ventures ;)02:27
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stefg!backup | rpj802:27
uboturpj8: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning02:27
anss1ls list a "total n" in the beginning. What is that?02:27
rpj8lloeki: Thanks very much :) Your information will be very helpful02:27
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HaZiLLahmm, could someone help me please, ive just installed ubuntu but on boot it comes up with 'error loading operating system'02:28
HaZiLLaim a noob with linux im afraid :<02:28
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rpj8stefg: Heh thanks stefg. I'm reading up on that now... By the way, I though in Edgy/Feisty there was a backup program that came installed with installation?02:28
daddy1987how to login as root in ubuntu?????????????02:28
WaltzingAlong!root | daddy198702:28
ubotudaddy1987: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo02:28
WaltzingAlong!sudo | daddy198702:28
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ubotudaddy1987: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:28
haribohello?!?!02:29
HaZiLLa;02:29
HaZiLLa;o02:29
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hariboist hier keiner?!?!02:29
stefgrpj8: not sure, never do Desktop/Default installs. But my preferred method is running partimage from a Live CD/ rescue system and just image the whole partition02:29
daddy1987den who is system admin??????????02:29
Pici!de | haribo02:29
ubotuharibo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:29
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Picidaddy1987: Please read those links first.02:29
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haribookay. i have understand02:30
WaltzingAlongharibo: tschuess02:30
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insane_alieni got a problem updating. i get an error tellin me to run dpkg --configure -a as root (just says dpkg interupted) so i run that with sudo and it brings up a problem with the 2.6.23 kernel package i compiled(and completely removed soon after) a while ago. anyone know how i can remove it from dpkg's manifest?02:30
stefginsane_alien: 2.6.23 ? where's that from ?02:30
mahaboobwhat is error02:30
rpj8stefg: I see. The largest amount of continuous removeable media I have on hand is 2 gigs.02:31
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insane_alien2.6.23 the new kernel02:31
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daddy1987wat is make file?????????/02:31
damianlhi, how do i change which soundcard flash outputs through, i have 2 soundcards02:31
damianlhi, how do i change which soundcard flash outputs through, i have 2 soundcards02:31
stefginsane_alien: that's not in ubuntu, so you probably broke your system by installing some unsupported third-party stuff02:31
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rpj8daddy1987: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/ give this a read dude02:32
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insane_alienyeah, but i removed the package completely using aptitude02:32
insane_alienit shouldn't have broke anything02:32
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stefgbut it did02:32
insane_alienyes02:32
insane_alienit appears it has02:32
lloekidamianl, you may want to take a look at the asoundrc file for advanced configuration of multiple soundcards02:33
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insane_alienit looks as if dpkg still thinks it is there02:33
stefgbackup and reinstall is the only clean way to straighten that, imho, insane_alien02:33
daddy1987sorry to say:ubuntu sucks02:33
insane_alieni could do that02:33
insane_alienor i could tinker till i fix it02:33
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stefg!clone | insane_alien02:33
ubotuinsane_alien: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate02:33
rpj8daddy1987: Eh. You're just too lazy to look things up my friend.02:33
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Picidaddy1987: I'm sorry you feel that way.  None of your questions have contained any context and that is why you are not getting answers.02:34
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Pici!patience | daddy198702:34
ubotudaddy1987: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:34
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daddy1987k i will look now02:34
daddy1987ubuntu shud be made easy like windows02:35
HaZiLLa;/02:35
daddy1987all u shud work into dis02:35
tk2kubuntu is easy, you just aren't used to it02:35
HaZiLLawell it wouldnt be linux then would it02:35
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LjLdaddy1987: "you"? why don't *you* help? the goal *is* to make it easy.02:35
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LjLdaddy1987: but if everybody says that "YOU should make it easy", and doesn't do anything, nothing will ever happen02:36
WaltzingAlonghardly anyone in here messes with linux02:36
daddy1987i have other things to do also02:36
insane_alienwindows is extremely difficult to get used to02:36
tk2kso you think we don't?02:36
LjLdaddy1987: so do we all, i guess02:36
insane_aliencept 98 that was the only one that worked flawlessly for me02:37
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rpj8daddy1987: You can leave now :)02:37
tk2kalmost 10 years ago =O02:37
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Pici!offtopic02:37
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:37
daddy1987faq u rpj802:37
arunis there any way to change the default styles for textboxes, submit buttons and the like?02:37
ingo_Linux is not that difficult to understand, is it?02:37
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ingo_its more specialized in many ways, you have more possibilities to tweak/costumize stuff02:38
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LjLingo_, he's "left", and you're offtopic02:39
ingo_okay :)02:39
IanLiuWill Gutsy support more nVidia cards?02:39
LjLIanLiu: i don't think so02:39
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IanLiu:(02:39
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its_me_gbarun, in firefox?02:39
LjLIanLiu: what's your unsupported card?02:40
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IanLiuI've got a 860002:40
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IanLiuGeForce 860002:40
its_me_gbarun, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=369596&highlight=firefox+widgets02:40
arunits_me_gb: In any browser02:40
lloekiIanLiu, gutsy has the 100.14.19 nvidia drivers (the latest), so I guess yes, if you're using the stock feisty02:40
arunthanks02:40
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its_me_gbarun, oh, sorry, i only remembered that firefox widgets thread. sorry02:41
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HaZiLLawhat filesystem should i format my file storage drive with02:41
IanLiuI am currently upgrading to Gutsy02:41
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nuccoHaZiLLa: vfat02:41
HaZiLLaok02:41
IanLiuI couldn't manage to install in feisty..02:41
nuccoHaZiLLa: if you want it accessible from *most* operating systems.02:41
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Omniushow do I fing out my nVidia Device PCI ID?02:42
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erUSULOmnius: lspci02:42
nuccoOmnius: lspci02:42
lloekiOmnius, lspvi -n02:42
Omniuscheers02:42
erUSULOmnius: 01:00.0 VGA compatible etc02:42
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ingo_HaZiLLa, normally ext3 would be a good choice, if it is for only-linux use02:42
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soundraynucco: you should at least specify fat32. In any case, that question needed more information.02:43
IanLiuDoes gutsy installs nvidia drivers automatically after upgrading from feisty?02:43
Toast`Hi02:43
^punishersup?02:43
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HaZiLLawell, i might want to grap files from windows02:43
soundrayHaZiLLa: how are you going to use that filesystem?02:43
Pici: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support/discussion.02:43
LjLIanLiu: have you tried nvidia-glx-new as a driver? that card is listed as supported on the nvidia site02:43
dgjonesIanLiu, gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1, if you've got questions about that, you'd be better asking in there02:43
M_WSI've just downloaded and burned Ubuntu 7.04 on CDROM but It doesn't boot up with it, my boot sequence is ok. What did I do wrong here?02:43
Toast`I'll find out02:43
^punisherno02:44
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saxi1ingo_: why only linux use?02:44
lloekiIanLiu, not if they were not installed I thinnk02:44
ingo_saxin, linux/unix02:44
HaZiLLasoundray: i want to use ubuntu for a media server02:44
lloekiIanLiu, but you should take a peek at system=>admin=>restricted driver manager02:44
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IanLiuhmm02:44
soundrayHaZiLLa: you should probably use ext3, especially if you expect to store large files (>2GB)02:44
nuccosoundray: vfat == fat3202:44
lloekiit'll prompt you for them02:44
soundraynucco: wrong02:44
IanLiureally? I thought it wasnt at the list..02:44
IanLiuI will try it02:44
nuccosoundray: explain please02:45
soundraynucco: no, you made the mistake, you go and do the research.02:45
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nuccosoundray: I'm not in school. thanks.02:45
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soundrayHaZiLLa: if you need to mount it in Windows, you can do that with ext2fsd02:45
soundraynucco: I don't care, as long as you don't spread misinformation02:45
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M_WSI've just downloaded and burned Ubuntu 7.04 on CDROM but It doesn't boot up with it, my boot sequence is ok. What did I do wrong here (I do get it started in windows) ?02:46
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arunits_me_gb: can you do it across browsers? That method seems to be only for firefox02:46
nuccosoundray: all you had to do was say a word hinting the right thing. I was going to research anyway, to verify your claim.02:46
soundrayM_WS: how far does it get?02:46
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soundraynucco: okay, I was being a bit harsh. Peace?02:47
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M_WSsoundray, it doesn't recognise it as a bootable CD and goes straight to windows02:47
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nuccosoundray: no offence.02:47
lloekiM_WS, try to hit escape or some function keys at the POST so as to pop up a boot device selection02:47
ingo_M_WS, are you sure that you have burned it as a bootable cd?02:47
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tk2kyou didn't burn it right?02:47
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tbfhow do i fix translations? pidgin still says "Verbunden" instead of "Verbinden" in the reconnect dialog? it says that crap since feisty.02:47
M_WSingo_ Ive just unpacked the iso and burned it on cd. is that correct?02:47
ingo_M_WS, dont unpack the iso-image, but burn the whole image!02:47
xrlshello..i get this message trying to untar the files---@xrls:/usr/src$ sudo tar --bzip2 -xvf linux-2.6.22.tar.bz202:47
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lloekitbf, submit a bug report at the pidgin bugzilla02:48
Keitherzhello02:48
saxi1mwest: did you burn it as an image?02:48
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soundray!burniso > M_WS, please read the private message from ubotu02:48
Keitherzcan i ask something02:48
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arun!ask02:48
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:48
soundrayKeitherz: you already have02:48
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Keitherzwhat is the standard minimum requirements02:48
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M_WSingo, I also tried burning the entier ISO on a CD (regular method under windows) do I have to do it another way to burn it "as image" ?02:48
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arunis there any way to change the default styles for textboxes, submit buttons and the like?02:48
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soundrayM_WS: read the private message please02:49
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Keitherzwhat is the lowest RAM requirments02:49
stefg!themes | arun02:49
ubotuarun: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy02:49
its_me_gbarun, i think only firefox and firfox derivitives02:49
erUSULtbf: rosetta https://launchpad.net/rosetta02:49
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M_WSah, thanks very much!02:49
soundrayKeitherz: for ubuntu, you should have 192, better 256 MB of RAM02:49
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lloekiKeitherz, 256 for Ubuntu I think02:49
arunits_me_gb: so it should work with flock as well?02:49
TheGateKeeper!bugs02:49
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots02:49
Keitherzhow bout for gusty02:49
lloekiKeitherz, less for server and xubuntu02:49
soundrayKeitherz: same02:50
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its_me_gbarun, maybe? im not sure to be honest02:50
stefgKeitherz: dpends on waht you're going to use. a Desktop CD requires around 320 MB to run reasonavly02:50
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lloekiKeitherz, but with 256 I suggest you to install with the alternate cd, else it's a paint02:50
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xrlshello..i get this message trying to untar the files---@xrls:/usr/src$ sudo tar --bzip2 -xvf linux-2.6.22.tar.b.. i use gusty02:51
ingo_Keitherz, as you can choose the graphical user-interface (xfce/gnome/etc.), there should be a solution also for low ram pcs02:51
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stefgBut i would prefer xubuntu over ubuntu on a 256 MB box .. Gutsy's on the 'road to bloat', so without serious trimming the ubuntu experience in 256 MB will be poor02:51
Keitherzwhere02:51
xrlsi cant untar the file02:51
erUSULxrls: what's the error msg?02:52
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MPuppetGusty Gibbon just 3 days to go!02:52
foxinesshow to do a refresh for ur desktop?02:52
Keitherzuhm how about virtual memory can they work02:52
IanLiuHere I am again. I am trying to follow the Ubuntu's HowTo install nVidia doing: System -> Adm.. -> Restricted Devices M(...). But Ubuntu replies my drivers doesn't need restricted drivers..02:52
xrlserusul...cant open file02:52
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tbflloeki: pidgin's .po file is correct. the error must be somewhere in ubuntu's language pack system02:52
stefgMPuppet: yup, that's really sad02:52
erUSULxrls: tar xvjf file.tar.bz2 is enough ( j is for bzip)02:53
lloekitbf, oh, then launchpad02:53
xrlsthanks02:53
lloekiIanLiu, then apt-get install nvidia-glx-new02:53
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ingo_Keitherz, you should create a swap partition02:53
soundrayKeitherz: that requirement is for hardware RAM. You can't make up for it with virtual memory.02:53
lloekialso, you should go in #ubuntu+1 if it's gutsy related02:53
IanLiuHmm, after that, its all done?02:54
soundrayKeitherz: how much do you have?02:54
Keitherz25602:54
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Keitherzdarn if my other 256 ram didn't got broken02:54
lloekiIanLiu, maybe take a peek at your xorg.conf for putting "nvidia" in place of "nv"02:54
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ingo_he could use xfce, which does not eat that much memory02:54
soundrayKeitherz: try gutsy xubuntu when it's released.02:55
ingo_as wm02:55
stefgKeitherz: i'd recoomend a xubuntu alternate install for that... and stick with 7.04. Gutsy isn't ready, has serious issues still02:55
foobar24yanyone here knows how to or knows of any document that descripes how to change font on the menu02:55
soundrayKeitherz: check how much it costs to replace your broken RAM. It's come down in price quite a bit.02:55
Keitherzdo xubuntu have the dev tools02:55
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soundrayKeitherz: yes02:55
stefg!xubuntu | Keitherz02:55
ubotuKeitherz: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels02:55
Keitherzuhm im on SDRAM02:55
Keitherzso its still the same price as 1gig DDR2 here02:56
lloekiKeitherz, *ubuntus all have the same repos, so you just have to install them02:56
Keitherz256 SDRAM same price with 1gig DDR202:56
soundrayKeitherz: where are you located?02:56
foobar24yanyone here knows how to or knows of any document that descripes how to change font on the gnome panel??02:56
LjLKeitherz: just how broken is the RAM?02:56
Keitherzphilippines02:56
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Keitherzthe ram02:57
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Keitherzwell it wont work02:57
Keitherzwaha02:57
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Keitherzi have 3 old rams02:57
foobar24yhow can i change font on the gnome panel?02:57
aterraHey, on my computer I have to identical USB harddrives(same usb dev prod id's), but on each reboot it is random which one of them apears as sdb and which one that apears as sdc, which makes it a real pain to create a consistent fstab file. Any ideas for a solution?02:57
LjLKeitherz: i was just asking because there used to be a kernel patch to let you use broken RAM, as long as only a few bits of it were broken02:57
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IanLiuI should change Section "Device" (...) Driver "nv"   to   "nvidia" ?02:57
nuccofoobar24y: use the font preferences02:57
Keitherz256 sdram 256 sdram and 32 sdram02:57
erUSULaterra: thats why uuid where created for ;)02:58
stefg!udevrules | aterra:02:58
moquistI've got a user with a projector hooked up to an external display on his laptop, and everything works great except that DVDs that get played are visible only on his laptop. Any suggestions?02:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about udevrules - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:58
erUSUL!uuid | aterra02:58
ubotuaterra: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)02:58
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erUSULaterra: were*02:58
foobar24yKeitherz: dont work, it changes everything, but not on the panel02:58
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aterraerUSUL -> thanks02:58
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stefg!udev rules | aterra, erUSUL 's suggestion will prolly work, here's another:02:59
ubotuaterra, erUSUL 's suggestion will prolly work, here's another:: Ever wanted to make your USB-stick /dev/usbstick? Go to http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html to learn more about this feature.02:59
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aterrastefg -> thanks I'll take a look at it02:59
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linenoisemoquist: hit that crt/lcd button... it's 'function-f8' on my lappy03:00
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Keitherzwhat is better KDE or GNOME03:00
stefgohnoes !03:01
moquistlinenoise: that doesn't send the DVD signal; just everything else.03:01
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erUSUL!better | Keitherz03:01
ubotuKeitherz: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.03:01
dgjones!best | Keitherz it depends what you want and which suits you03:01
ubotuKeitherz it depends what you want and which suits you: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.03:01
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soundrayKeitherz: for your low-memory situation, Xfce will be better than KDE or gnome03:01
moquistlinenoise: I haven't messed with it enough to get the image ONLY displaying on the external display; I suspect/hope that may work. But surely there's a way to display all the video internally AND externally...03:01
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Keitherzhmmm03:02
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sk4terSomeone knows the system xmail server?03:02
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sk4terHow to stop sending email in the list of xmail?03:02
Keitherzwow cool compiz-fuzion can that work on xubuntu03:02
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mcpI know a filename, and want to know the deb-package, that installed that file. How do i find out?03:02
LjLKeitherz: ahum... if we were talking about a low-end system...03:03
LjLmcp: dpkg -S filename03:03
stefgKeitherz: you're going to use your RAM for more pruductive things tahn eye-candy, aren't you ?03:03
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soundraymoquist: if you play the disk with mplayer, and try the various -vo options, you may find a way to play on the external display.03:03
Keitherzlolz... ill just continue deving03:03
Keitherz*sigh*03:03
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soundraymoquist: see a list of options with mplayer -vo help03:04
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liorlalahow do i configure File system of the hardisk and then how i make the mount to be automate03:04
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mcpLjL, thank you, that worked03:04
LjL!mount > liorlala    (liorlala, see the private message from Ubotu)03:04
lloekiKeitherz, xfce has some simple and nice eyecandy with its bundled compositor anyway ;)03:04
erUSULliorlala: use gparted to set up the hard disk (format and create partitions)03:04
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tk2kyou configure your file system during when you are reformatting03:04
Keitherzok now dual booting.. how to dual boot (search search search) aha... imgoing to reformat03:05
erUSULliorlala: then edit fstab (man fstab) to mount the partitions automatically03:05
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HaZiLLaargh this is driving me crazy, installed ubuntu, i get 'error loading operating system' on boot03:05
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foobar24ydoes anyone here know how to change font on the meny in ubuntu, doesent work with the reguar way...03:05
lloekiliorlala, man mkfs, and man fstab03:05
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sk4tera03:05
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IanLiuI installed nvidia-glx-new and executed 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' and than 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable', but it accuses my xorg.conf has 'nv' instead of 'nvidia', which is not correct. What should I do?03:05
soundrayHaZiLLa: something went wrong with your grub install. To fix this use the instructions "RecoveringUbuntu..." in the ubotu factoid:03:06
soundray!grub | HaZiLLa03:06
juusohow can i get dbus plugin activate?03:06
ubotuHaZiLLa: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:06
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HaZiLLaok03:06
moquistsoundray: thx for the suggestion, but that's not going to work for these users. The hardware option (as linenoise mentioned) needs to do the right thing, so I'm looking for a software configuration I can perform that will make that work correctly. I suppose it's possible an mplayer configuration change could do it, but I'm doubtful. :(03:06
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mishaanyone know anything about grub?03:06
soundray!anyone | misha03:07
ubotumisha: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:07
dgjones!grub > misha03:07
tk2kwhat do you want to find out about grub?03:07
mishaI want to know why it cant "find the real path of /dev/hda"03:08
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soundray!elaborate | misha03:08
ubotumisha: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)03:08
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SlimGI've copied /var/lib/mysql/* from debian etch to ubuntu gutsy, I manage to start the new Ubuntu MySQL server, but I get an error related to "debian-sys-maint@localhost" : http://pastebin.com/d1de6e8fe03:09
SlimGAnyone got a clue on what/where to change this ^ ?03:09
damianlhey whats this one mean? why cant it...?   "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables03:10
damianl"03:10
Picidamianl: install build-essential03:10
damianli have03:10
mishaI'm getting errors when I try to update grub (or as in my case when I try to dist-upgrade to a new kernel)03:10
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sk4terHELP-ME How to stop sending email in the list of xmail?03:10
mishagrub-probe: error: Cannot get the real path of `/dev/hda'03:10
soundraySlimG: it's better to backup your databases with mysqldump03:10
lloekiSlimG, look /etc/mysql/debian.cnf03:10
Keitherzdoes anyone here uses xubunut03:10
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damianland i have no problems with most other compiles03:10
lloekiSlimG, there's a password in there03:10
Keitherzxubuntu03:10
damianlits the svn versiopn of amsn could it be an error in there config file?03:11
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soundraymisha: maybe you upgraded to a kernel that uses /dev/sda for your hard disk now.03:11
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SlimGlloeki: thanks, sounds plausible, I'll have a look03:11
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damianlbenjamin?03:12
soundrayKeitherz: not so many of us here, but check #xubuntu03:12
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ubuntuciao03:12
SlimGsoundray: The old debian system is no longer bootable, and so I can't do a proper mysqldump03:12
ConfusedVistaUsewhat command do i use to change channels ?03:12
moquistSlimG: boot a LiveCD, mount the old /, chroot into it, and mysqldump from there.03:12
lloekiSlimG, if you can, get the password value in the file above from that debian system03:13
ubuntuqualche italiano puo aiutarmi?03:13
jribConfusedVistaUse: /join #channel_name03:13
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jrib!it | ubuntu03:13
ubotuubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:13
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ubuntusorry03:13
lloekiSlimG, but you may encounter permission issues at the file level in /Var/lib/mysql03:13
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hackerslt a tous03:14
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mishasoundray: the issue is that grub can't access hda at all, and I need to be able to boot from there03:14
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Innomenhow would i dismount an external dvdrom when i right click on it and hit eject it spits out the cd but remains mounted lol03:14
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hackernouvo sous ubuntu, besoin d'aide03:14
SlimGlloeki: I've already solved the permission issue with chown mysql:mysql03:14
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tk2kmisha, how is grub unable to boot? you just set the root to (hd0,5) if you are booting grub from your hard disk03:15
damianlhey whats this one mean? why cant it...?   "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables03:15
damianlhey whats this one mean? why cant it...?   "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables03:15
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lloekihacker, va sur #ubuntu-fr03:15
tk2kand it'll point to the hard drive's 5th partition03:15
jribdamianl: what are you compiling?03:15
SlimGlloeki: the stuff within the old /etc/mysql/debian.cnf, should I merge it into my new Ubuntu /etc/mysql/my.cnf ?03:15
soundraymisha: what does /boot/grub/device.map look like? Perhaps you need to change /dev/hda to /dev/sda in there.03:16
damianljrib: svn version of amsn03:16
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jrib!compiling > damianl (read the private message from ubotu)03:16
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jribdamianl: you need the build-essential package03:16
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erUSULsk4ter: you should ask in a more specific support channel (either Xmail or mail servers in general)...03:16
lloekiSlimG, no, in the /etc/mysql/debian.cnf there's two identical passwords, put them in the same /etc/mysql/debian.cnf at the correct place in you ubuntu system03:16
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cyclonuthowdy folk03:17
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tech0007i'm trying to write to a cdrw formatted w/ udftools (packet writing). i can only do it as root (sudo) but not as a regular user. i did sudo chown 777 /your/mount/point/.  any ideas?03:17
cyclonutdoes anyone know how to get the shell effect seen here: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=44357&d=1190694890  ?03:17
bhaviIs this in anyway wrong with any loco team? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianPromoters03:18
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bhaviAre my ideologies wrong? I am just trying to bring all the ubenteros into a team and encouraging more and more members to become ubenteros by this... I am trying to model my loco team on par with ubuntu and no support.. They are firing me... Ubuntu Sucks..03:18
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mishasoundray:03:18
misha(fd0)   /dev/fd003:18
misha(hd0)   /dev/hda03:18
misha(hd1)   /dev/sda03:18
whyuselinuxsup people i was installing ubuntu in text mode and i got to the grub point (went past partioning stage) and i decided to quit installation because i cant use photoshop and nero on it so i think i will try to install wubi but i am now thinking whats the point of even installing linux wubi.. can someone give me a reason why i shouldnt use windows?.. kinda lost faith in ubuntu coz i couldnt install it quickly and easily as i thought it would of..03:18
bhaviNo encouragement Kicked me out of irc.. For telling this..03:19
damianljrib: i have the build essential package, i know how to compile properly, could it be a problem with configure03:19
Innomenthats not right03:19
mishawhyuselinux: eh you can use nero fine in linux03:19
Innomenpeople should be allowed to say what they please03:19
bhavianyone listening?03:19
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whyuselinuxmisha: someon on the ubuntu forum said i couldnt03:19
jribcyclonut: one way would be devilspie...03:19
whyuselinuxhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3536522#post353652203:19
Innomenbhavi: i am03:19
mishawhyuselinux: they were wrong03:19
cyclonutjrib: Ill look into it. Thanks!03:19
whyuselinuxthey were wrong about phoo03:20
whyuselinuxthey were wrong about photoshop and dreamweaver aswel ?03:20
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nanonymenaw, photoshop is only usable with wine or similar03:20
jribdamianl: what is the result of 'apt-cache policy binutils'?03:20
nanonymei don't think dreamweaver works at all03:20
pnanoI upgrade ubuntu from 6.06 to 7.0403:20
pnanoafter upgrade, I got error message:03:20
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pnanohere is : http://pastebin.com/d42e5e58003:21
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mishawhyuselinux: well you can use photoshop CS and dreamweaver 04 in wine afaik.03:21
soundraytech0007: have a look at /usr/share/doc/udftools/README.Debian.gz (point 6))03:21
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whyuselinuxnanonyme: whats the point of me installing linux wine tho ? just for the 3d interface ?03:21
cyclonutjrib: I guess I was hoping for some desktop integration more than just a window change :-\ devilspie looks really neat though, intalling it now :)03:21
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johannsensIs it possible at all to use the ATI 690G with Compiz?03:21
whyuselinuxmisha: dreamweaver 04? not dreamweaver cs?03:21
pnanocan someone here kindly point me out how can I fix it!03:21
bhavitell me my ideologies were right?03:21
johannsensI cant get it to work03:21
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jribbhavi: #ubuntu-locoteams is more appropriate03:21
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Keitherzif gusty is out of beta and release officially do you still need to upgrade it03:21
nanonymewhyuselinux, no, wine implements windows API so you can run windows programs on it03:22
pnanoa problem is with apache2 , it can not restart03:22
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pnanoanother is python 2.4 and Version 2.5 conflicts03:22
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pnanosee this error: http://pastebin.com/d42e5e58003:22
tech0007soundray....will try that thanks03:22
jribKeitherz: what is "it"?03:22
Kopfgeldjaegerhi03:22
nanonymewhyuselinux, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=183 http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=1703:23
SlimGlloeki: Works like a charm, Thanks alot :) I really apprechiate it. This could have turned out so bad if I were to do it another way03:23
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whyuselinuxok03:23
whyuselinuxnanonyme03:23
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whyuselinuxso i can use dreamweaver cs303:23
Keitherzmy ubuntu if i have gusty gibbon beta installed do i have to upgrade when its released03:23
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erUSUL!offtopic | bhavi03:24
ubotubhavi: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!03:24
nanonymewhyuselinux, it hasn't really anything to do with 3d as itself03:24
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whyuselinuxwhat do you mean03:24
mishawhyuselinux: I think you'd be better of using the linux equivalents of these programs. Are you SURE you need the latest adobe ones?03:24
whyuselinuxwell i have the latest adobe programs03:24
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whyuselinuxive just formatted my comp03:25
pnanoupgrade question!03:25
whyuselinuxi have 80gb free c drive03:25
jribKeitherz: yes, you get periodic upgrades... you should do a regular dist-upgrade like you have been doing up to now.  Then do the regular upgrades from update-manager when you get them03:25
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pnanowho know it: http://pastebin.com/d42e5e58003:25
nanonymeimo it might not be a good idea to switch to Linux if you have a lot of programs that require Windows03:25
whyuselinuxi have just installed xp sp2 and i am a bit confused how i should go about all of this03:25
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whyuselinuxwhat are the advantages of using wine over windows?03:26
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whyuselinuxthe 3d interface looks cool03:26
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MartinWWine is on Linux03:26
jribwhyuselinux: you do not have to reboot03:26
nanonymewhyuselinux, none whatsoever03:26
whyuselinuxso i should just stay with windows?03:26
nanonymewhyuselinux, wine is for running windows programs on linux03:26
whyuselinuxcool03:26
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whyuselinuxbut why would i run them on linux03:27
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jerrygjhello03:27
rzimek78how to restart ddclient ?03:27
whyuselinuxthe 3d interface looks cool but i dunno if its worth the hassel03:27
nanonymewhyuselinux, your call. you don't need to switch to Linux unless you see a good reason to do so03:27
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Jeruvyyou 'would' run them due to your higher than windows intelligence03:27
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nanonymewhyuselinux, as i said, i personally wouldn't change if i had a lot of programs that need Windows03:28
whyuselinuxok03:28
Keitherzthe alternate cd have ubuntu installer with tools or without linux with tools03:28
hastesaverCan I install Ubuntu on a FAT32 partition?03:28
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jribhastesaver: no03:28
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mishahastesaver: sorta03:28
quitttI use WINE with all windows applications that I need03:29
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quitttand they work perfectly03:29
hastesaveroh... is there a filesystem I can install Ubuntu on, that works with OS X?03:29
nanonymemisha, very *very* bad idea anyway03:29
mishahastesaver: check out wubi03:29
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hastesaverI don't want Windows :-)03:29
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whyuselinuxquittt: why dont you just use windows?03:29
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nanonymeeven if you manage to install linux on fat32, it will probably get fragmented and i haven't seen defragmenting tools for linux03:29
InnomenVideo codec 'Real Video 3.0' is not handled.03:29
tech0007soundray....i edited /etc/fstab so users can mount/umount udf, do i have to restart?03:29
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mishahastesaver: I'm just saying that the method they use is the one that you would.03:30
hastesaverIt's just that OS X's ext2/ext3 support is rather... shaky, and I don't konw if Linux has any HFS/HFS+ support03:30
nanonymeso you need to format often03:30
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quitttwhyuselinux, a bunch of other applications that I need and I use are ported to Linux03:30
quitttand the usability and stability are much higher than any Windows03:30
whyuselinuxok03:30
whyuselinuxusability as in the 3d interface ?03:30
whyuselinuxllol03:30
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pnano1180 members, nobody could give a help?03:31
whyuselinuxthe 3d interface looks cool i want to experience this03:31
pnanohttp://pastebin.com/d42e5e58003:31
nanonymewhyuselinux, the 3d interface is imo bunk. i don't have it installed03:31
jribhastesaver: "osx mount ext3" in google has some results that seemed to work03:31
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whyuselinuxya most people i know dont use the 3d interface03:31
pnanohow can I get rid of the error:03:31
whyuselinuxbut i am a newbie03:31
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pnanowith apt-get03:31
whyuselinuxand this is the only attractive thing to me i think03:31
jribpnano: try to keep what you say on a single line, or else the channel becomes too busy03:32
nanonymewhyuselinux, it's about the same as if you'd get vista. no real benefit, slows your computer down03:32
hastesaverjrib: yes, OS X's ext3 support is read-only, and ext2 works, I think. (Not by default, but someone has written a driver)03:32
pnanojrib, ok03:32
pnanoI re type03:32
jribhastesaver: you can mount ext3 as ext2 though03:32
anss1Seems like ls list "total n" as the size of the directory. What unit is that? Disk blocks or kilobytes? How do I check the block size of a disk?03:32
mishawhyuselinux: perhaps you should try running it for a while and see what you think. That's what the LiveCCD is for03:32
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twoshadetodis there any way/program to gather a list of emails, and produce a "grouping" of them? my boss wants me to "find a way" that he can send 1 email to like 20 Home owner associations but he is remote, is there a way to generate a form that he can open and just put his email and body?03:32
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nanonymewhyuselinux, requirements are lower but it's essentially just eye-candy on the price of speed03:32
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twoshadetodand by gather i mean ill be typign them in manually :)03:32
pnanoI upgrade ubuntu from 6.06 to 7.04, after upgrade, error message occur: http://pastebin.com/d42e5e58003:32
whyuselinuxmisha: liveCCD over Wine ?03:33
hastesaverjrib: ok... and ext2 is actually not that bad either, right? I mean... I could make an actual ext2 partition and install Ubuntu on it? I'd like to keep my data in a place I can write to from both places :)03:33
O_Testador#cpimag03:33
whyuselinuxnanonyme: i saw the youtube video vista vs ubuntu and the eye candy is what attracted me03:33
mishawhyuselinux: no no, it means that you can boot from the ubuntu install CD without actually installing it and use the system normally03:33
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cyclonuttwoshadetod: sure - look into php email solutions03:33
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nanonymewhyuselinux, that's the worst possible reason to choose an OS to be honest03:33
whyuselinuxi want to reap the benefits of linux but i dont know how to go about this03:34
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laomaohow to set up tv-out?03:34
cyclonuttwoshadetod: then just create a table for mailing lists, have it send to all people in a group03:34
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jribhastesaver: you could, you don't get the journal.  There is nothing wrong with using ext3 and then mounting it as ext2 when you are in OSX03:34
cyclonuttwoshadetod: would be happy to code it for you for a meager fee :)03:34
pnanoI dont how to solve this verion conflicts: 1. is apache2 cannot restart 2. Python 2.4 and 2.5 installed side by side, conflict with each other, should I delete <pythondir>/site-packages???03:34
anss1How is it possible that no-one ever defragments there disks on Linux? If I fill my hadrd disk with a million files and then remove a random half of them, my disk just has to be fragmented, right?03:34
whyuselinuxmisha: can i use windows apps on LiveCCD?03:34
pnanoI upgrade ubuntu from 6.06 to 7.04, after upgrade, error message occur: http://pastebin.com/d42e5e58003:34
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psyphenwhyuselinux: reap the benefits? what benefits?03:34
nanonymeanss1, ext2/ext3 are just better ;)03:34
laomaoto03:34
laomaoto:03:35
anss1As far as I know there are no supported defrag tools for Ubuntu?03:35
whyuselinuxlol what benefits i dunno.. 3d interface ;x03:35
nanonymeanss1, you don't need to defragment03:35
psypheno.O03:35
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tech0007anybody knows what i need to do after i edited my /etc/fstab for it to take effect?03:35
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pnanoI upgrade ubuntu from 6.06 to 7.04, after upgrade, error message occur: http://pastebin.com/d42e5e58003:35
pnanoI dont how to solve this verion conflicts: 1. is apache2 cannot restart 2. Python 2.4 and 2.5 installed side by side, conflict with each other, should I delete <pythondir>/site-packages???03:35
nanonymeanss1, the disks get checked for consistency like about every 30 mounts or 60 days or whatever03:35
psyphenwhyuselinux: and that's it? that's the only reason you want to use linux? is because of the 3d interface? you're a strange one03:35
nanonymeautomatically03:35
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hastesaverjrib: Yes, but from what I've tried, I can use ext3 only if I mount it as ext2, and then it is mounted read-only. That's a limitation of the ext* driver written for OS X, I think.03:35
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anss1nononyme, tell me how my disk can not be fragmented, if i fill it with small files and then remove half of them randomly!03:35
nanonymeanss1, i don't know ext2/3 well enough to answer, read the specs03:36
pnanoomg, this channel is like a flood03:36
hastesaverjrib: thanks for your help...  Sooner or later I'm going to repartition my macbook hard drive and dual-boot OS X and Ubuntu :)03:36
jribwhyuselinux: I would recommend a dual boot so you can check out linux but fall back to windows if you need it03:36
whyuselinuxpsyphen: no i want to learn how to use it for MySQL databases ect..03:36
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MartinWWhy does an unofficial repository break upgrades?03:36
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hastesaveranss1: ext2/ext3 filesystems are just designed better. FAT partitions get fragmented more easily03:36
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pnanojrib, can you give me some suggestion?03:36
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pnanoI dont how to solve this verion conflicts: 1. is apache2 cannot restart 2. Python 2.4 and 2.5 installed side by side, conflict with each other, should I delete <pythondir>/site-packages???03:36
anss1No nanonyme, I am quite positive that ext2 or 3 will not defragment automatically.03:36
psyphenwhyuselinux: i would recommend installing it on a virtual machine rather than dual-booting if you really want to try it03:36
pnanoI upgrade ubuntu from 6.06 to 7.04, after upgrade, error message occur: http://pastebin.com/d42e5e58003:36
nanonymeanss1, unless you want to read dozens of pages of technical data, you just have to trust that unix filesystems are better than their windows equivalents03:36
KajaWhat's the big deal about disk fragmentation anyway.. I don't even care about it anymore =/03:36
jribhastesaver: I see03:36
nanonymekaja, you don't have to with unix filesystems :)03:37
alex_Hey can somebody tell me the name of the ubuntu-installed IRC client?03:37
Kajananonyme, yeah, that's my point.03:37
MartinWGaim03:37
whyuselinuxpsyphen: virtual machine... how do i do this ?03:37
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jribalex_: pidgin03:37
pnanoalex_ gaim and xchat-203:37
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psyphenwhyuselinux: i'll show you. care for a private message?03:37
whyuselinuxyes please03:37
pnanojrib, can you03:37
jribalex_: sorry, yeah gaim03:37
jribpnano: be patient03:38
twoshadetodcyclonut, you think I can find a php mod (i have a webserver to host it on) that i can preconfigure with all the emails and he can visit and just put his info in there?03:38
alex_gaim! i didn't notice thats what i was using last time03:38
MartinWBut I prefer chatzilla since it has a nicer interface. Its a small firefox plugin.03:38
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alex_okay, so since you guys are being helpful...does anybody know what steps i'd have to take to install mandriva on another partition i have, and still be able to boot into ubuntu? because from what i understand, Mandriva's bootloader writes over Ubuntu's and you can't load back into ubuntu03:38
cyclonuttwoshadetod: maybe03:38
jribpnano: how did you upgrade?03:38
cyclonuttwoshadetod: you could also set up a listserv on your server03:39
pnanoerror past  here: http://pastebin.com/d42e5e58003:39
cyclonuttwoshadetod: so that when he sends an email to a certain listserv, it goes out to the whole group03:39
twoshadetodcyclonut, thing is It can't be linked to my server like thats my hobby and this is for work03:39
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psyphenwhyuselinux: are you perhaps an unregistered member of freenode? if so it would explain why you can't see my private message to you03:40
cyclonuttwoshadetod: the "from" addresses are configurable, so it would look like it was coming from him, just the extended headers would tell a different story03:40
pnanojrib, I upgrade as ubuntu.com show03:40
cyclonuttwoshadetod: reply-to wold work the same as current03:40
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Picipnano: From 6.06 to 6.10 to 7.04?03:40
pnanofrom 6.06 to 7.0403:40
pnano6.1003:40
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pnano6.10 to 7.0403:41
twoshadetodcyclonut, thanks alot man, I was thinking I might have to go to his office (far) to manually copy and paste emails into a email for him lol03:41
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cyclonuttwoshadetod: np, again I am a coder for hire ;)03:42
RickyH1980Hello everyone I had a quick question, I was reading on ubuntu.com that this is a help channel.03:42
whyuselinuxpsyphen: i am unregistered03:42
cyclonuttwoshadetod: g/l with the liststerv03:42
whyuselinuxi dont know what freenode is03:42
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jribpnano: does 'sudo invoke-rc.d restart apache2' work?03:42
whyuselinuxi saw your first private message03:42
psyphenwhyuselinux: did you get the website?03:42
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RickyH1980Does 7.10 have a gui interface to join Ubuntu to a Server 2003 Domain?03:42
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psyphenwhyuselinux: you're using irc.freenode.net (an irc network)03:42
alex_Anybody know if i have to take any extra steps before i install Mandriva 2008 so as to not screw up the bootloader in ubuntu 7.04 (for a dual boot)03:42
twoshadetodping 64.255.100.8303:43
pnanoI dunno trying03:43
jribRickyH1980: gutsy help in #ubuntu+103:43
pnanojrib, I dunno trying03:43
tech0007anybody knows what i need to do after i edited my /etc/fstab for it to take effect?03:43
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RickyH1980ah okay thanks03:43
skarfacetech0007: sudo mount -a03:43
jribtech0007: remount what you changed03:43
whyuselinuxya i am on irc.freenode.net03:43
lunzwhen i run compiz-fusion xserver is tooo slow...what is the problem?how to fix it?03:43
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whyuselinuxpsyphen: ya i am on irc.freenode.net03:43
alex_lunz compiz-fusion lags on my computer...try using Beryl hehe03:43
whyuselinuxpsyphen: yes i saw your link03:43
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psyphenwhyuselinux: cool03:44
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whyuselinuxpsyphen: dont you see my private messages?03:44
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Pici!register | whyuselinux03:44
ubotuwhyuselinux: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration03:44
psyphenwhyuselinux: no03:44
lunzalex:that is not a solution..thanks anyway..03:44
erUSULlunz: maybe you do not have 3d hw acceleration enabled?03:44
mozilla-webhi how can i see the sites i visited on my webbrowser03:44
mozilla-websites that i visited 2-3 month ago03:44
erUSULmozilla-web: Crlt + H03:44
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lunzerUSUL:how to check my 3d acceleration enable or not?03:45
psyphenwhyuselinux: but i'm going anyway. have fun with ubuntu. bye03:45
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SmegHeadgrr i cant find a nick that aint been regged03:45
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whyuselinuxk c ya03:45
Slasherx2there03:45
alex_mozilla-web: hey if you're (un)lucky enough and you use igoogle or any google services that you sign into permanently, google might have saved ALL your history so you can sign in and check tha tout03:45
mozilla-webi see sites from yesterday and today how about findin what i surfed some months ago is that possible03:45
Slasherx2!brother03:45
dgjoneswhyuselinux, you need to be registered before people can see your private messages03:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about brother - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:45
Slasherx2!brother printer03:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about brother printer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:45
tech0007SmegHead :-D03:45
dawswhen I lock my screen on gutsy and go home for the night and come back the next day, why is my system sooooo slow to get going again?03:45
linux4mei'm running ubuntu fiesty, how do I install ultramonkey? i've tried sudo apt-get install ultramonkey. ultramonkey has a debian package but it is for sarge03:45
Slasherx2hmm03:45
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jribSlasherx2: /msg ubotu printing03:46
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Slasherx2thx03:46
jribdaws: gutsy help in #ubuntu+103:46
mozilla-webyes i know google but i directlty type the url in the adress03:46
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dawsjrib, thanks03:46
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mozilla-webanyone who knows if it works to find what i surfed some months ago03:46
nanonymejrib, still for three days :)03:46
erUSULdaws: it is the "updatedb" sindrome... when updatedb runs at night it makes apps and many other things go to swap when you come in the morning those things need to be readed frpm swap (hd's are slow)03:47
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BixBoxt03:47
tech0007mozilla-web....if u cleared ur browsing history...its gone03:47
alex_mozilla-web: oh because i was accidentally using their browser history that stored every single site i visited for the past year (yea, i deleted all that)03:47
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mozilla-webi never cleared browsin history03:47
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mozilla-webhow can i find browsin history03:48
pnanojrib, 'sudo invoke-rc.d restart apache2   nvoke-rc.d : unknown initscript03:48
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tk2kcontrol+h?03:48
its_me_gbhas anyone had any success connecting to an apple airport express wireless router from ubuntu?03:48
alex_mozilla-web: if you're only seeing history from recent days then you might have your browser set to automatically delete files/history every few days...03:48
erUSULmozilla-web: Crlt + H03:48
jribpnano: switcd "restart" and "apache2"03:48
pnanojrib,fail03:49
robert_hooray- Can't locate object method "good_version" via package "Autom4te::C4che" at /usr/bin/autom4te line 984.03:49
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jribpnano: is that the full output?03:49
mozilla-webctrl + h shows only 6 days older03:49
pnanojrib, action "restart" failed.03:49
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jribpnano: can you stop it?03:49
alex_mozilla-web: then you probably have it set to auto-delete your history after a week03:49
pnanojrib: its 2 lines output03:49
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pnano* forcing.......03:50
mozilla-webwell i never  setup anthing03:50
jribpnano: join me in #ubuntu-classroom03:50
pnano....ion "restart" failed.03:50
alex_mozilla-web: maybe somebody else did heh03:50
tech0007are there a linux versions of optical drive firmwares? i think mine is dying?03:50
dawserUSUL, oh, I see03:50
pnanook03:50
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mozilla-webnope maybe its automatically03:50
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dawserUSUL, any way to counteract that?03:51
tech0007mozilla-web...if ur using firefox, default of 9 days history, aftr that it clears them out03:51
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alex_mozilla-web: okay, do this: launch firefox, click on Edit===>Preferences, then click on the Privacy Tab at the top, and you'll see an option that says "Remember Visited Pages for the last X days"03:51
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erUSULdaws: dunno...03:51
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robert_can I force the reinstall of m4?03:52
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alex_change the X number (as tech0007 said, it's normally 9 days) to whatever you want03:52
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Slasherx2urgh, could anyone please help me setup this gimpy printer please? it's a Brother DCP-115C and its annoying me lol. I had it working in 7.04 with several hours of tweaking but when i upgraded to 7.10 beta it broke :/03:52
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alex_Anybody know how to dual boot Mandriva 2008 with Ubuntu 7.04? Ubuntu installed first on a separate partition....03:53
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tech0007Slasherx2...maybe people in #ubuntu+1 can help03:53
erUSULrobert_: sudo apt-get --reinstall03:53
dgjonesSlasherx2, 7.10 support is in +ubuntu+1 for the next few days03:53
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Slasherx2ahh03:53
Slasherx2thanks03:53
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alex_and when's the final release of 7.10 due??03:53
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Picialex_: 18th.03:53
tech0007alex_  1803:53
alex_sweeeeet03:54
erUSULalex_: add a grub entry for ubuntu to mandriva's menu.lst (or viceversa)03:54
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Slasherx23 days03:54
alex_erUSUL: how would i do that? or should i just google it? heh03:54
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tk2kguty will have everything feisty will have right?03:54
tech0007who tried Gutsy  then went back to Feisty?03:55
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robert_aclocal hates me03:55
robert_Can't locate object method "good_version" via package "Autom4te::C4che" at /usr/bin/autom4te line 984.03:55
dawserUSUL, ok, thanks anyway03:55
alex_tech0007: i had gutsy installed for a couple hours, but it was beta and nothing was working properly haha, i was lazy to figure it out03:55
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tech0007alex_  i would have done the same..03:55
tech0007:-D03:56
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alex_tech0007: hahahaha ;) were not hardcore enough...yet....03:56
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lunz how to start Compiz Fusion with --loose-binding option?03:57
alex_i just stopped using windows only a month ago tops...still learning my way with linux...wondering if Mandriva's a good step for a dual boot (and remove windows entirely from my computer) hah03:57
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alex_anybody in here know why both Kiba Dock and AWN (especially awn) lag the hell out of my computer when i run them?03:59
amrhello, i am wondering how to open isilo files on ubuntu03:59
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alex_arm: try using a program like wine?03:59
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jhaigamr: The Windows isilo tool works in Wine.03:59
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amris there no linux app that covers that04:00
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apecathey.. hwo do i set up a static ip in ubuntu, in a way that all network managers respect04:00
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alex_amr: try visiting this post, i think it might solve your issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27013304:01
jhaigamr: There is a console based tool for dealing with isilo files, but I never got round to working out how it works.  Very little documentation, I seem to remember.04:01
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Hatlhi! i want to copy my ubuntu installation (usb hdd) to my notebook. is that possible?04:01
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MasterShrekHatl, use dd04:01
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dgjonesamr, there's something called "isilox" which i think must be the command jhaig mentioned04:02
MasterShrekdd if=<usb device> of=<notebook hdd>04:02
jhaigamr: http://www.isilox.com/download/index.htm <- iSiloX for Windows works well in Wine.  iSiloXC is the Linux (console) version.04:02
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liberumDoes anyone know how to make a truecrypt volume writible? The -u parameter doesn't do it for me...04:02
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amri just want a gnome app plz04:02
Hatli copied the installation with "cp -a" to the other hdd (sda6) but if i want to start ubuntu it tries to mount the old partition (sda1)04:02
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Hatli have updated fstab and menu.lst with my new partitions but if i run update-grub it rewrites menu.lst to the old partition settings04:04
meuserjI'm having issues with network manager under gutsy... my nic works fine when using dhclient to bring it up, but network manager doesn't see it as being up, then any programs that rely on network manager to see the status of the connection don't work04:04
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jhaigamr: I'm not sure there is one, I'm afraid.  Evolution will allow you to get the isilo files onto your PDA, but not for creating or reading them, I think.04:04
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tech0007meuserj....#ubuntu+104:04
MasterShrekHatl, have another look through both files and make sure they are set correctly, remember grub will see hda1 as hd0,004:05
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jhaigamr: Maybe someone has worked iSiloXC into evolution, but I haven't heard of it.  Would be interested to know, though.04:05
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RvGaTe^workquick !04:05
jbfinkfuck fuck04:05
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jbfinksorry04:05
Hatlmy grub conf is correct and my fstab is correct but if i boot ubuntu it wants to mount the old partition sdb104:06
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MasterShrek!ohmy04:06
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.04:06
Hatli also updated the ramdisk04:06
alex_eee04:06
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alex_hey genii, you know how to dual boot mandriva with ubuntu?04:06
MasterShrekHatl, well if it wants to still boot sdb1 then something is wrong in one of those files04:06
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MasterShrekHatl, can you pastebin your menu.lst?04:07
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geniialex_: I haven't used Mandriva (lately), so not sure what bootloader system it may use. But if you have grub, it should be able to handle pretty much any different OS04:07
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Hatlsorry, no network connection on my notebook04:08
Hatlit only boots the ramdisk04:08
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mozilla-webin which directory is xchat04:08
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Kudakwhen i do 'fdisk -l' i get a * mark next to a certain partition, does it tell where grub is installed ?04:08
tech0007mozilla-web.... 'which xchat'04:08
korpsgenii: (i changed my nick just now)...yea but from what im understanding it overwrite's ubuntu's grub and then you can't boot back in (They haven't fixed it for Mandriva 2008 either haha)04:08
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MasterShrekmozilla-web, its not just in one directory, but if u are looking for your user's config files, they are in /home/user/.xchat204:09
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Hatlwhere do i find the config file for update-grub?04:09
korpshmm maybe i'll just stick to ubuntu for the time being hah04:09
Lr5Anyone knows how to fix sound in firefox/java/flash?04:09
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jbfinkokay, sorry about the swearing folks.04:09
mozilla-webhow can i find it from the terminal i can not find it04:09
dgjonesanagra, sometime last year, i had 2 versions of ubuntu, Mandriva 2007, slackware & windows all installed on the same machine, grub was able to cope with all of them, it was just a case of whichever was the last installed used that grub and automatically picked up the other versions04:09
jbfinkha ha irc nobo04:09
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jbfinker, noob.04:09
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Lr5aoss-thing doesn't work anymore, after upgrading to 7.1004:10
MasterShrekmozilla-web, cd .xchat204:10
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geniikorps: Yes i see something about it here http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=6690504:10
tech0007mozilla-web...did u get anything when u typed in 'which xchat'04:10
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cappizis it possible to read ufs fs in ubuntu/linux?04:10
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mozilla-web which xchat04:10
mozilla-web/usr/bin/xchat04:10
KennethPmozilla-web: try the command locate xchat in a terminal window04:10
MasterShrek!ufs04:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ufs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:10
geniicappiz: Yes, you can read BSD filesystem from ubuntu04:11
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korpsdgjones: oooh okay. i guess i'll go for it, see if it works haha. if not i'm sure it's fixable anyways. ps. is my nickname still coming up as anagra for you?04:11
tech0007mozilla-web....type 'xchat' it should open up04:11
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cappizgenii, something special i need, or can i just mount it? :)04:11
Hatlit mounts the correct partition but read-only04:11
adantehowdy, is there an up-to-date guide for installing a root onto a software raid0?04:11
Hatlthe entry in /etc/mtab shows the wrong partition04:11
geniicappiz: I don't recall needing a special package, but i'll check04:12
erUSULcappiz: yes a driver exist for ufs filesystems dunno how well it works though04:12
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adantei've seen some around in the wiki but they are either no raid0 or a bit out of date04:12
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dgjoneskorps, not now, its changed, i had looked for alex_ first & followed the changes :)04:12
erUSUL!dmraid04:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dmraid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:12
cappizi only need to read from it :)04:12
tech0007!ufs04:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ufs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:12
WaltzingAlong!info dmraid04:12
WaltzingAlong!raid04:12
ubotudmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0.rc13-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 180 kB, installed size 612 kB04:12
korpsdgjones: haha awesome...thanks for the help eh04:12
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO04:12
korpsalright i'm out of here. take it easy all04:12
liberumHow can i decide which users who can access my proftpd?04:12
dgjoneskorps, no probs, good luck04:12
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WaltzingAlongget 'er easy, take 'er twice04:12
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gorlakhey, i have a question, i am in the middle of configuring a program that needs to use the php bin file, where in ubuntu is it located?04:13
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WaltzingAlong/usr/bin/php ? /usr/bin/php5 or php404:14
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WaltzingAlongunless you want the cli interface to it04:14
WaxyFreshwhen ubuntu starts after i enter user/pass into GDM i get: Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket! Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and the acpid daemon is running. will this effect how my computer is running?04:14
gorlakit needs to be cli, the program will be passing commands to it04:14
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WaltzingAlongbe sure to have installed it php4-cli for example, then should be in the same place04:15
gorlakit doesnt seem to have it there, what program would i need then to get the cli php,04:15
gorlakah ok04:15
gorlaki wasnt sure what i would need to install in order for the php to be placed there.04:15
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gorlakand the search for php in the repositories yielded so many that i couldnt figure out which one i needed :)04:16
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gorlakthanks04:17
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WaltzingAlongwelcome04:17
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geniicappiz: I can't seem to find some applicable package. since i had during install a ufs disk it may have installed the correct module then etc.  (sorry for lag, work called me away)04:18
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postgrejrib:04:18
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postgrejrib: which channel04:18
postgre#ubuntu -class04:18
erUSULgenii: find /lib/modules -name '*ufs*' -print04:18
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cappizgenii; ok :) ill try04:19
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geniierUSUL: Ah yes, or possibly modprobe -l |grep ufs04:19
jribpostgre: #ubuntu-classroom04:19
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mozilla-webhow can i see my mozilla cache history04:21
jribmozilla-web: about:cache04:21
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MasterShrekmozilla-web, probably somewhere in /home/user/.mozilla04:21
geniicappiz: I do remember having problems mounting BSB raid volumes created with vinum04:21
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genii*BSD04:21
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WaxyFresh when ubuntu starts after i enter user/pass into GDM i get: Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket! Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and the acpid daemon is running. will this effect how my computer is running?04:22
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WaltzingAlongWaxyFresh: not necessarily04:24
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WaxyFreshwould running i386 ubuntu on a amd64 machine be slower then running x86 on a x86 machine?04:24
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AndehHello04:25
Klavierhow can i understand my eth0 device active or passive.. there is not anything about it s active04:25
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Klavieri want to know if it s a cable problem04:25
WaxyFreshKlavier:  ifconfig or iwconfig should tell you04:25
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AndehJust got a nice 22 inch monitor, 1680x1050 Pixels, and my Nv 8600GT only supports 1600x1024 so the entire image is crap. Help? Also, the monitor stretches the thing accross the screen, and doesnt let you resize vertically.04:26
Klavieri tried ifconfig04:26
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JeruvyKlavier: active will show in ifconfig, passive will not.  Check var/log/messages during startup.04:26
konwhere can the desktop 7.04 PXE installer image be found?04:26
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Klavierokay it s working04:27
WarbisshopIs their a GUI tool to manage LDAP and its current users ?04:27
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Klavierit asked me for update it wont be authenticated so i choosed to update option04:27
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Klavierwhat s going on04:27
Jeruvykon: did you try apt-get install pxe?04:28
Klavierit s updating 121 package04:28
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WaltzingAlongKlavier: but the verifications failed?04:29
geniikon: a minute, i'll find you a nice tutorial04:29
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alex_anybody know why kopete is taking so long to send messages?04:31
geniikon: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install04:31
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John117Hey there!  I'm using XGL on my laptop.  Desktop effects were working great.   I just installed Beryl Emerald and even though I"m getting no errors, it doesn't seem to be working.04:31
konthanks genii, so this image contains both server and desktop?04:31
skyn3thi04:32
nanonyme!beryl04:32
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects04:32
KlavierWaltzingAlong it shows 3 options not auhtentcated or to update04:32
Klavieror to install04:32
Klavieri checked update box04:32
nanonymejohn117, read, join, get stuff solved :)04:32
skyn3tanyone here uses vodafone mobile connect card ?04:32
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John117ubotu, I"ve been to #ubuntu-effects.  Nobody monitors that channel.04:32
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WaltzingAlongtough cookies as it goes04:32
geniikon: The method they use in that tutorial uses netboot image to boot to, then you have an install CD loop-mounted which it continues from. the install CD could be any you like04:32
John117nanonyme I've don alot of reading, thats how i got this far. :)04:33
nanonyme!beryl | john11704:33
ubotujohn117: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects04:33
nanonymeread that, i meant04:33
John117!beryl04:33
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ari_stress!openldap04:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openldap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:33
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WaltzingAlong!info openldap04:33
ubotuPackage openldap does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:33
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ari_stress!ldap04:33
ubotuLDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer04:33
John117!beryl04:33
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects04:33
skyn3t!phyton04:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about phyton - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:34
konah i understand genii, thanks. i'll check it out and see if i can install directly from the net04:34
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John117LOL...   I don't want a non-helpful bot response. :)   Nobody in #ubuntu-effects is even talking.04:34
nanonymejohn117, did you also understand that? :)04:34
nanonymejohn117, it's off-topic here04:34
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ari_stressthanks WaltzingAlong04:34
ari_stress:D04:34
John117nanonyme okay :)  I guess i'll flood #ubuntu-effects until someone answers :)04:35
WaltzingAlongand for that matter John117 there may be lots of people in #chat but still perhaps not the place to ask04:35
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skyn3tanyone here uses vodafone mobile connect card ?04:36
WaltzingAlongno nor did i when you asked 4 minutes ago04:36
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artagnonwhere can I get the ubuntu gusty livecd?04:37
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alex_artagnon: i don't think it's out til the 18th04:38
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WaltzingAlongartagnon: releases.ubuntu.com04:38
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artagnonwhat about gusty unstable livecd?04:39
atlfalcons866how do i enable extented attributes04:39
artagnonI'm looking at releases.ubuntu.com04:39
tushydhelp! I checked "enable accessibility options" for my login screen and now I can't get the gnome login screen! It just hangs with the spinning cursor!04:39
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tech0007artagnon....use Desktop CD04:39
xrlshow do i translate this site??    http://whitepenguin.wordpress.com/2007/09/20/compilare-il-kernel-su-ubuntu-feisty-704/04:39
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heavenhy guyz i got a question, do you have Unreal tournament 2004? and if you can tell me if it works on x64 ubuntu 7.0404:40
Rullishow can i join channel as "#rhmlLAN" ?04:40
artagnonokay, got http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-rc-desktop-i386.iso04:41
artagnonit's probably what I want04:41
artagnonthanks all04:41
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Piciheaven: Epic Games has an installer for UT2004 for linux.04:41
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heavenpici: ok, ok i know that but i got an athlon 64 and also ubuntu is x64 architecture would it work then?04:42
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Piciheaven: I dont know, you'd have to check the requirements on epic/UT's website.04:43
alinahi04:43
heavenok thanx04:43
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Desosdoes anyone know how to fix the mic problems with feisty and dells04:44
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xrls how do i translate this site??  or does it find in English version .. http://whitepenguin.wordpress.com/2007/09/20/compilare-il-kernel-su-ubuntu-feisty-704/04:44
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WaltzingAlongxrls: translate.google.com04:46
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xrlsthanks04:46
TushTuxhelp! In the "login screen" options, I checked "enable accessibility options" for the gnome login screen... but now it shows the spinning cursor and won't load the login screen!04:46
dgjonesxrls, or maybe Babelfish04:46
xrlscool thanks04:46
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TushTuxanyone?04:47
WaxyFreshwhy would installing x86 ubuntu on a amd64 macine be a bad idea?04:47
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erUSUL!kernel | xrls04:48
ubotuxrls: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages04:48
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WaltzingAlongWaxyFresh: who was claiming it was?04:48
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xrlsokay,thanks again04:48
erUSULWaxyFresh: it is not a bad idea... it is in some ways a good idea (less problems with flash w32codecs etc)04:48
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rryanhi, so in my syslog I see "SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)" , yet the drives on the bus are brought up in UDMA133 mode, when I know they are SATA 3gbps drives and their jumpers are set appropriately.   What can I do to set them in 300MBps mode? (i'm using sata_nv drivers on an nForce motherboard)04:49
WaxyFreshWaltzingAlong: noone i was only wondering04:49
ibob63#apache04:49
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WaxyFreshWaltzingAlong: but would x86 run slower then normal on a amd64?04:49
WaltzingAlongWaxyFresh: if so not any you would notice04:50
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TushTuxhelp! In the "login screen" options, I checked "enable accessibility options" for the gnome login screen... but now it shows the spinning cursor and won't load the login screen... can I change gnome login options via CL?04:50
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dylixwhen i boot up ubuntu i get a black screen until xorg starts, ive tried changing the bootline to say vga=xxx but still no worky :(04:52
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kolbyso, does anyone know where to find a good book on Ubuntu?04:52
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SephirothI have Ubuntu 7.04 installed, and recently reinstalled Windows XP, which means I lost grub. The CD I have, however, is for 6.04. Would I be able to use that CD to recover grub?04:53
tk2kyeah04:53
tk2kshould be04:53
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rryandylix : have you tried adding 'nosplash' to the boot line and removing quiet ? are you able to see text on boot up, or nothing at all?04:54
dylixnothign at all04:54
dylixi will try that tho04:54
upsto kolby: you don't learn ubuntu from "books"04:54
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kolbySephiroth:  are you going to a dual-boot system?04:54
erUSULSephiroth: if you use the chroot method everything should be safe...04:54
Picikolby: There is the 'Official Ubuntu Book' that I've seen in many major book stores.04:54
upsdylix: may be your splash package is wrogn04:54
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SephirothIt was a dual-boot system.04:54
erUSUL!grub | Sephiroth04:54
ubotuSephiroth: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:54
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konwhat's the "linux-generic" kernel like?04:55
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kolbyups: well, lol.  My first introduction to Ubuntu was from a book in the library04:55
dylixi think it has something to do w/ 64bit install, the 32bit one worked ok04:55
whileimhereHi. I was wondering are there any add ons to openoffice so that I can do network diagrams/04:55
WaltzingAlongkon: soft and slightly furry04:55
bobbob1016What partitions should I backup before going to gutsy?  I want to try to as much of a fresh install as possible.  I have /home and / on separate partitions.  I read I need "/etc" too, would I just copy it to a separate drive, then back over?04:55
Pici!generic | kon04:55
ubotukon: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)04:55
kolbyups: that's how I got the CD and booted it up on my PC04:55
upskolby: use it everyday and you will learn it fast04:55
konthanks Pici04:55
PiciYepyep04:56
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upssuggestion: before upgrade to gusty, backup your entire linux system :)04:56
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rryanwhileimhere : i'm not sure about open office, but if you install 'Dia', a diagram tool, it has plenty of different packages for tons of things from circuits, to UML, to Network diagrams04:56
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VletIs there a way to change the ctrl-shift-arrow selection behavior?04:57
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whileimhereooh ok04:57
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bobbob1016ups: I know I should do the whole thing, I just wanted to get as little as possible, so I can have as much of a clean install as possible04:57
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FAMILIAR_GIRLhi all04:57
kolbyups: actually, I know my way around it pretty well.  I've been using it as my sole OS for a year.  I think what I'm looking for is that Ubuntu-hacks guide.04:57
danhsI'm having a problem using setgid04:57
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danhsnot sure why it's not working properly04:57
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erUSUL!hi | FAMILIAR_GIRL04:57
ubotuFAMILIAR_GIRL: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!04:57
danhsbut i do chmod g+s <directory name> and then I create a new directory in <directory name> but it just uses my primary group....not the parent group04:58
danhswhat am I doing wrong?04:58
upsI always keep a bzipped tarball of my system, just incase04:58
fevelexcuse me guys are ati graphic cards somewhat obsolete in Linux04:58
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fevelI get very bad fps on 3d04:59
tech0007ubuntu desktop edn boots at which runlevel?04:59
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fevelam I getting something wrong?04:59
SephirothOkay, will try that. Thanks.04:59
kolbyfevel: What driver do you have installed for it?04:59
tech0007fevel....its jst that nvidia is more supported than ati04:59
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kahrytanfevel, ATI sucks on Linux.05:00
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upsright, I have ati cards too, I am not happy05:00
dylixok, when i remove the splash quiet, i see the bootup text..05:00
kolbyisn't ATI making drivers for Linux now?05:00
dylixso something is wrong w/ my splash package?05:00
tech0007ubuntu desktop edn boots at which runlevel? anyone?05:00
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danhsOh...it looks like I had to make that change using sudo....05:00
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upsATI supports some cards05:00
danhsalright....05:00
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fevelkolby, How can I check? I installed it through envy, I know about the issues and will uninstall it in 5 days05:00
danhswell that's okay I guess05:00
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noxygencan i ask a non ubuntu specific quetion in here ?05:01
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noxygenit is *nix specific05:01
trackballusercan anyone tell me how to disable the gnome login screen in command line?05:01
Vletkolby: yeah, but as far as I've heard, it will only support very new cards, and ain't out yet05:01
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kolbyfevel:  I'm not certain.  I have nVidia-glx as my driver05:01
tech0007noxygen.....shoot05:01
kahrytantrackballuser, called gdm login05:01
erUSULtrackballuser: do you want to boot into console?05:02
kolbynoxygen: go for it05:02
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trackballusermy login screen hangs05:02
sev95algun espaol para que me explique unas cosas?? privado please!!05:02
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erUSULtrackballuser: only once or allways?05:02
fevelkahrytan, unable to play good games like nexuiz correct?05:02
erUSUL!es | sev9505:02
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ubotusev95: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:02
Pici!es | stefg05:02
ubotustefg: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:02
Picioops.05:02
trackballuseralways, I checked "enable accessibility options" once and from then on it hangs consistently05:02
sev95muchisimas gracias05:02
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stefgAy!05:02
Vlettrackballuser: you just want a terminal? You need to remove the symlinks to gdm from your /etc/rc5.d/ dir05:02
kahrytanfevel, I use FX 5200 on my compu. It gets me 70fps-90fps05:03
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IdleOnestefg: english please :P05:03
daedricGentleman... i need your help. In the past i've heard a song... and my girlfriend used a small part of it in a school project. Now i need it again, but i don't know who's the author... or the album.05:03
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Picidaedric: #ubuntu-offtopic please.05:03
daedricIf i provide you with the music start... can you try and identify it ?05:03
daedricPici Will do :D05:03
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stefg!offtopic | daedric05:03
ubotudaedric: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!05:03
fevelkahrytan, I understand, I get good fps on my nvidia card too, although the restricted drivers for that board wouldnt let me start x05:03
trackballuserok, thanks Vlet05:03
Vletdaedric: why are you asking that here?05:03
kolbydaedric:  what kind of song is it?05:03
kahrytanfevel, worked good for me on feisty05:03
daedricin the offtopic05:03
Toma-daedric offtopic!05:04
tech0007Vlet....is it runlevel 5 when i boot regularly to gdm login?05:04
PiciToma-: Vlet , he knows. arg.05:04
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Vlettrackballuser: also from the /etc/rc4.d/ and any other /etc/rcX.d/ dir's05:04
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Toma-sorry Pici, lagging like crazy05:04
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fevelstrange, since I also installed it on feisty, couldnt have done something wrong since I just checked the check box =) maybe a problem with the card05:04
PiciToma-: Okay, :)05:04
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Vlettech0007: yeah... I'm no 'expert', but as far as I remember, it's 505:04
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tech0007Vlet..that's fine..ubuntu skipped /etc/inittab so i dont know05:06
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kolbyI think Ubuntu's wireless sucked in Feisty.  I hope they support Broadcomm cards on acer laptops better in Gibbon.  Honestly, I installed Ubuntu for two of my friends on their laptops and spent hours making their wireless work.05:07
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trackballuserVlet, can you walk me through it, my IRC client crashed so I forgot what you said05:07
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fevelkolby, I had issues too, although ndiswrapper did the trick05:07
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WaltzingAlongkolby: try the ways that work, cuts time making it work dramatically05:07
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|Lord_Zoo|ndiswrapper works fine now05:08
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Vlettrackballuser: No, but I can tell you again... there are directories /etc/rc0.d/ through /etc/rc6.d/ ... if you remove the symlinks to gdm from those directories, the login manager (gdm) will not be started05:08
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nomad111hey all05:09
nomad111i am currently using gutsy rc105:09
Picinomad111: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support/discussion.05:09
jordan_U!boot | trackballuser05:09
ubotutrackballuser: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto05:09
trackballuserVlet: Ok, so I don't have to edit any files, I just have to remove them? (sorry, I'm a newbie)05:09
nomad111k'05:09
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kolbyfevel: yeah, ndiswrapper was the what I ended up using.  But I had to edit /etc/network/interfaces to make it connect to the router.05:09
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Vlettrackballuser: then maybe you shouldn't be messing with this kinda stuff :)05:10
IpMooBetai need some help in installing studio05:10
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Cpudan80Hello all05:10
kolbyfevel: the network manager application just couldn't do it...05:10
trackballuserVlet: well, I think messing things up is a good way to learn :)05:10
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WaltzingAlongstudio?05:10
Cpudan80I would just like to say thanks05:10
kolbyCpudan80: ello05:10
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Cpudan80I moved to Ubuntu from SUSE yesterday05:10
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Cpudan80Ubuntu is 10000x better05:11
IpMooBetayup05:11
kolbyCpudan80: lol.  Really?  why's that?05:11
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Cpudan80Everything just works05:11
nanonymenot for me :)05:11
Vlettrackballuser: runlevels are different stages the system goes through during startup... 0 through 5 (6 = shutting down). Whent he system moves to the next stage, it runs the programs in those directories05:11
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Desosmicrophones dont05:11
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Cpudan80I don't care about microphones05:11
nanonymebut that's mostly linux's fault, not ubuntu's05:11
ZombineI get an error when trying to compile the source for this app I downloaded: "Class Timeouthandler has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor"05:11
Cpudan80My keyboard from MS works05:11
HaZiLLahow can i format my drives from booting with livecd05:11
Cpudan80that was a big surprise05:11
ZombineAnyone know what this means or how to fix it?05:11
kolbyCpudan80: interesting.   Yeah, I thought about trying openSuse... but I'm really comfortable with Ubuntu.05:12
jordan_UHaZiLLa, gparted05:12
Cpudan80Like the fancy keys at the top05:12
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Vlettrackballuser: so, in /etc/rc4.d/ and rc5.d are links to programs to run. You want to remove (for example) 'S13gdm' from /etc/rc5.d/05:12
IpMooBetasuse 10 was ok for a bitt05:12
Cpudan80kolby: It's a good distro - but for whatever reason, it wouldn't put grub on the primary master HDD (SATA)05:12
kolbyCpudan80:  I'll be getting a fancy wireless keyboard soon.  lol05:12
jordan_UZombine, What are you trying to compile?05:12
Zombinejordan_U A slit app for Fluxbox.05:12
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kolbyCpudan80:  nicely put.  I still might give it a go-round then.05:13
upshazilla: bootup with your livecd, mount you disk then format it05:13
Cpudan80kolby: No matter how hard I tried - it wouldn't put grub on sda105:13
WaltzingAlong!info gmailfs05:13
ubotugmailfs: Use your GMail account as a filesystem. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.2-2 (feisty), package size 24 kB, installed size 156 kB05:13
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HaZiLLak05:13
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Zombinejordan_U ./configure says it's missing a file called process.h as well.  I figure this is in some library I don't have, but the readme didn't mention any dependencies05:13
trackballuserVlet: ok, so I am in /etc/rc0.d adn I see "k01gdm" in there, should I remove that?05:13
kolbyCpudan80:  you know, I just wish I could find an extremely barebones version of Ubuntu.  Something like Damn Small.05:13
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WaltzingAlong!info ubuntu-minimal | kolby05:14
ubotukolby: ubuntu-minimal: Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 1.43 (feisty), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB05:14
Cpudan80kolby: Ubuntu server doesn't work for you?05:14
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Vlettrackballuser: I believe so, but you should keep track of what you do incase you need to restore it05:14
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Vlettrackballuser: mind you, my advise comes with no warranty ;)05:14
kolbyCpudan80: lol.  I'm a gui lover.  I probably should've went for the fluxbox instead of gnome when I went that way.05:14
Cpudan80ahhh yeah05:15
Cpudan80Gnome is nice05:15
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Cpudan80that was another problem -- most of those suse guys used KDE05:15
trackballuserVlet: Ok, thanks05:15
kolbyubuntu-minimal...  wow.  that's tiny.05:15
Cpudan80I cant stand kde...05:15
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amadeuxIf I dist-upgrade from feisty to gutsy when it is released, will I have problems because I installed some backported compiz fusion packages on my feisty, or problems with any other software that I might have installed myself, that gutsy tries to install/upgrade?05:15
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Zombinejordan_U: I figured it would be a long shot to expect someone to know about one specific header file, or one specific program, but I just thought I should ask.05:16
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WaltzingAlongamadeux: use the update tool05:16
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jordan_UZombine, process.h sounds generic but try apt-file05:16
fulioHello,world. When ever i try to do a update it says "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.05:16
fulioE: _cache->open() failed, please report."05:16
amadeuxWaltzingAlong: what update tool?05:16
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kolbyis there an ubuntu-minimal distro around?05:16
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Zombinejordan_U: do I just do "apt-file process.h?"05:17
jordan_Ufulio, Have you tried running "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ?05:17
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jordan_UZombine, Yes05:17
fuliojordan_U, yes i have and it doesnt work05:17
Zombinejordan_U Okay.  Trying now.05:17
jordan_U!minimal | kolby05:17
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ubotukolby: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD05:17
kolbyI see....05:18
jordan_Ufulio, Can you pastebin the error it gives?05:18
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yannfhello05:19
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yannfwhat's the on the latest ubuntu about apache2 + ssl ?05:19
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yannfwhat's the situation on the latest ubuntu about apache2 + ssl ?05:20
Cpudan80apache2 works...05:20
Cpudan80dont know about ssl05:20
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yannffor apache 1.3, there are apache+mod_ssl, and apache-ssl05:20
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kolbyso...  could you run a computer on ubuntu-minimal without installing anything extra?05:20
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yannfbut i don't find either for apache205:20
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kolbylike... booting into a command-line type thing?05:21
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yannfis apache2 compiled with ssl?05:21
tuxcrafterhello everybody, i am using a debian based system and i found this daemons that were started from this location /etc/dbus-1/event.d/. I normally remove daemons with this command sudo update-rc.d -f avahi-daemon remove, however this has no effect on the dbus event system. So how do I correctly remove daemons started by dbus?05:21
Cpudan80no idea05:21
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tuxcrafteri am using ubuntu of course05:22
Zombinejordan_U: How do I get it to search repositries instead of my hd?05:22
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yannfin the man page, there is an option startssl05:23
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yannfbut "apache2ctl startssl" -> The startssl option is no longer supported.05:24
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amadeuxWould it be problematic to delete all directories except /home, and then install Feisty from scratch on that partition?05:24
jordan_UZombine, apt-file update05:24
Gek_random question... why is it that ubuntu seems to be so munc more popular than suse or fedora right now?05:24
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Zombinejordan_U Okay, thanks.05:24
MoeDinstallation ease?  (Or the perception of such)05:24
jordan_UZombine, It's apt-file search BTW, not just apt-file <file>, sry05:24
mikedamadeux: no05:25
erUSULamadeux: afaics /home would be deleted05:25
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erUSULamadeux: move home to it's own partition05:25
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kolbyThere's this really funny video I found of a Slackware user arguing with an Ubuntu user over the distros:  http://video.google.com/url?docid=6134058441699225182&esrc=sr2&ev=v&len=608&q=slackware&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVSCNpzD37l4&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D6134058441699225182%26q%3Dslackware%26total%3D114%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D1&usg=AL29H23_Av83RsWDlaLzj7HRin3fIi05:25
kolbyrhQA05:25
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Gek_MoeD, maybe.... although all the top distros are all fairly easy these days05:25
KilrooGek_: Because a lot of people think it's easeier to install, it has this active support community, and it's been at the top of Distrowatch.05:25
kolby....wow...  that sucked.05:25
mikedamadeux: get rid of all directories you dont want and keep home, resize the filesystem and repartition just for the home directory05:25
kolbylink: http://video.google.com/url?docid=6134058441699225182&esrc=sr2&ev=v&len=608&q=slackware&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVSCNpzD37l4&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D6134058441699225182%26q%3Dslackware%26total%3D114%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D1&usg=AL29H23_Av83RsWDlaLzj7HRin3fIirhQA05:25
nanonymehuoh...05:26
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nanonymeas in, sigh05:26
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kolbyit chopped part of my link off when I hit enter05:26
mikedamadueux then when you resinsttall setup new partitions for system directories05:26
Gek_does distrowatch show the # of users using it or approxomations?05:26
MoeDkolby,  tinyurl?  =)05:26
nanonymekolby, why on earth didn't you just give a straight link?05:26
Zombinejordan_U It isn't finding it in any repos I have...05:26
nanonymewhy did you have to give all the referer stuff?05:26
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thesaint4444hi guys, I am presently using Konsole for my shell terminal, can anybody recommend anything better? thanks...05:26
Zombinejordan_U Wait...05:26
mikedamadeux: id seriously look into use LVM05:26
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kolbynanonyme: I tried to give the straight link...  I copied the link location from google video05:27
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mikedamadeux: rearranging paritions without using LVM is a pain05:27
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nanonymekolby, it's not a video from google?05:27
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kolbyit's on youtube05:27
Sephirot1Apparently CGI:IRC is banned from here, well.. I'm in the process of recovering grub, but the problem is, Ubuntu can't mount the filesystem. O_o05:27
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nanonymekolby, it seems to be a video from youtube05:27
amadeuxmiked: ok, but can I set LVM up on an existing partition?05:27
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nanonymekolby, not from videos.google.com05:27
Sephirot1Grub is recovered, but I can't boot into Ubuntu.05:27
mikedamadeux: not that i know of05:28
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Gek_how are are they listed on distrowatch.com?05:28
kolbyI used google video to find it and it gave me a youtube link05:28
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amadeuxmiked: Also, I didn't want so much to fiddle with the partitions as such, just to delete everything but /home so I can install a clean system without backing up05:28
mikedamadeux: your probably going to have to do some shufflling with whatever available disk space you have05:28
Zombinejordan_U Shows no output... Verbose mode shows a list of my repos followed by some wierd regular expression thing05:29
kolbynanonyme:  well, the video is funny.05:29
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mikedamadeux: totally depends on if that /home directory is on a single partition, if it is, and you remove all your system directories on that partition, there wont be a way to put those system directoreis back in when you reinstall without wiping out your home dir05:29
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adantehi, i am running the alternate cd, my ide drives are appearing as dev/sdX drives, is this normal/expected?05:29
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adantethey showed up as /dev/hdX on the live05:29
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Gek_hmmm05:29
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mc44adante: yes most drives are sdX now05:30
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trackballuserVlet: I did what you said and when I boot it goes into command line, but what I need is to be able to start GDM without the login screen05:31
trackballuserVlet: sorry if I wasn't clear before05:31
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frustzzneed help on sharing folder05:32
kolbyyeah...  I want a 3D usplash.05:32
kolbyxbox's boot ups look cool.05:33
trackballuserdoes anyone know how to disable GDM login so it will go straight to the desktop environment?05:33
frustzzi need to share folder on lan network05:33
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stroyantrackballuser:  Edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and change AutomaticLoginEnable to true and set AutomaticLogin to a user name.05:34
dawsanyone know of a good gnome extension for svn?05:34
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dawsi.e. right click->commit05:35
dawssimilar to tortoisesvn05:35
kolbyI was looking at the usplash code and it's pretty clean and simple.  ...I think someone more experienced should incorporate 3D.05:35
amadeuxmiked: I don't understand what you mean05:35
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wishieis there any reason (other than 'because it is') that dash is the default shell, and not bash ?05:35
kolby...usplash has animation anyway.  Adding 3D would rock.05:35
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mc44wishie: it's faster05:35
daum_what package is svnlog in?05:35
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neverblue2anyone use Xen, with what kind of OS, and how does it run compared to say, VMware ?05:36
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wishiemc44: by milliseconds ?05:36
dawsneverblue2, I use VirtualBox and it works really well05:36
kolby3D usplash > 2D usplash in looks.05:36
neverblue2daws, just a aptitude install away ?05:36
dawsneverblue2, with windows on ubuntu05:37
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burg hello. how much space on hdd do i need for a typical ubuntu install? 6.06 ubuntu05:37
Rawplayeranyone in here who already did UCP?05:37
mc44wishie: possibly more, why is it a problem?05:37
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kolby...usplash...  + 3D05:37
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Zombineis there some place where I can download a header called process.h?05:38
kolby/... starts writing code...05:38
wishiemc44: well, just as an author of a script, it breaks a few of my scripts (sure, i know, bad coding on my part, and im fixing that as we speak)05:38
crdlbwishie, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Almquist_shell05:38
neverblue2!virtualbox05:38
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox05:38
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dawsneverblue2, actually I remember having to download the installer and I used alien05:38
crdlbwishie, just change your shebang line05:38
wishiecrdlb: ive done that.05:38
mozilla-webwhere is mozilla in which directory how can i find mozilla history cache05:38
erUSULZombine: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'05:38
dawsneverblue2, do a search though05:38
crdlbif you need bash, you should always make that clear05:38
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wishiecrdlb: i do make it clear, when telling people how to run it05:38
wishiei just wondered why its dash, not bash in ubuntu, basically.05:39
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mozilla-webwhere is mozilla in which directory how can i find mozilla history cache05:39
crdlbthat wikipedia article explains all its advantages05:39
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wishielooking now05:39
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Sx66gnsopen home and hit crtl+h to unhide , you can find h=it there05:40
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IanLiuWhat is the command to restart PC?05:40
trackballuserrcan anyone help with disabling the gdm login screen so that startup goes directly to desktop?05:40
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Klavier i have asus a6000 leptop, i edit kismet.conf but i dont know which driver should i use for source= tag?05:40
Klavierhow can i learn this05:40
trackballuserrIanliu: sudo reboot now05:40
stroyantrackballuser:   Edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and change AutomaticLoginEnable to true and set AutomaticLogin to a user name.05:41
mc44trackballuserr: System->Admin->Login Window then Security05:41
ZombineerUSUL So, $ should be replaced with the name of the header I'm looking for?05:41
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IanLiuthanks05:41
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neverblue2thanks daws05:41
trackballuserrstroyan: thanks05:41
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Klavierhow can i learn which driver is used for wifi card05:42
kolby3D usplash...05:42
mozilla-webwhen i am in gui it says i can not read files i am the root in my box why iis this happen05:42
Klavierso i need it for kismet.conf file05:42
kolbykolby = 3D usplash zombie05:42
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dawsneverblue2, sure05:42
mc44kolby: not going to happen...05:42
trackballuserrmc44: thanks, but I need to do it in command line, it hangs at the login screen05:42
kolbymc44:  ...it might05:42
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kolbymc44:  thus the short rant05:42
mc44kolby: no it won't, because it would cause lots of compatibility issues05:42
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kolbymc44:  that's why it should remain optional and drop back down to 2D on error05:43
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kolbymc44:  but if a freaking xbox can do it, why not my PC05:44
mc44kolby: because your xbox has exactly the same hardware as every other xbox05:44
crdlbkolby, because all xboxes have the same video card05:44
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kolbyso it's a driver issue05:44
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crdlbno05:44
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mc44there were enough problems getting the current usplash to work on most hardware05:45
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kolbywe'll solve it.  ... I don't have enough experience to code the 3D usplash myself ... but I should try.  I need to start somewhere.05:45
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frustzzhow to change ownership of root folders to users?05:45
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kolbymc44:  I'm not saying we should throw 3D into usplash as default.  But I want to make an optional version for people without little driver issues...  supposing the drivers are preloaded before usplash boots up.  ..._sigh_ I think the drivers are loaded before then, right?05:47
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adantehi, i am using the alternate cd to setup my drive - do i need to set the bootable area as the efi boot partition? or shoudl i just use it as ext2 filesystem and mark as bootable?05:47
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oxconvergexohelp me05:47
PriceChildoxconvergexo, ask your question05:48
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oxconvergexoI think about to install ubuntu05:48
oxconvergexobut I cant decide05:48
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oxconvergexoWHY ?05:48
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erUSULZombine: the command is to be executed as is05:48
oxconvergexocause I want to use windows also05:48
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PriceChildoxconvergexo, then dual boot05:49
oxconvergexoand I am an idiot about computers05:49
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kolbyWhen I turn on my computer, I want a quick fast bios and a silent grub.  Then a 3D loading screen.05:49
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oxconvergexoI installed ubuntu before05:50
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tuxcrafteri am using ubuntu  and i found this daemons that were started from this location /etc/dbus-1/event.d/. I normally remove daemons with this command sudo update-rc.d -f avahi-daemon remove, however this has no effect on the dbus event system. So how do I correctly remove daemons started by dbus?05:50
ZombineerUSUL Ah.  Says Linux-headers is up-to-date05:50
kolbyhmmmm...05:50
oxconvergexoand my usb modem didnt work !05:50
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burghow do i setup an internet connection with username and password?05:51
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oxconvergexolast year I came here05:51
kolbyoxconvergexo:  have you read the community docs on it?05:51
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oxconvergexono I didnt05:51
toxixHello, if I want to install 7.10, and I have only 6.06, I need first upgrade it to 7.04 and then 7.10, or I can upgrade straight from 6.06 to 7.10?05:51
oxconvergexoI am too lazy05:51
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kolbylol...  here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot05:51
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ZombineerUSUL I found the source code for a file called process.h online.  Aside from the risk of malicious code, could I just put this in my include directory as-is?05:52
oxconvergexook I am reading05:52
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oxconvergexowait here.05:52
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toxixHello, if I want to install 7.10, and I have only 6.06, I need first upgrade it to 7.04 and then 7.10, or I can upgrade straight from 6.06 to 7.10?05:53
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oxconvergexook thank you I am going to install now05:53
frojndhello there. How can I export my odt document into pdf ?05:53
oxconvergexobye05:53
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kolbyoxconvergexo:  let me know if it worked.05:54
kolbyoxconvergexo:  if all else fails, try Wubi05:54
|Lord_Zoo|[frojnd]  OOo has native export to pdf05:54
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kolbyoxconvergexo:  have you heard of Wubi?05:54
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frojnd|Lord_Zoo|, Oh, I see, I'm sorry I've bother... thanx05:55
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erUSULZombine: well a *.h without the corresponding c code or lib is mostly useless (you neeed the implementation too)05:55
kuch3nhey there05:55
|Lord_Zoo|[frojnd]  don't worry05:55
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erUSULZombine: what is supposed to offer the *.h file?05:55
kuch3nhow can i display the write rate while copying a file?05:56
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kuch3nwith nautilus05:56
|Lord_Zoo|plata05:56
ZombineerUSUL No chance that the program I'm trying to compile has the implementation?05:56
kuch3nLord Zoo, is this a anwser to my question??05:56
ZombineerUSUL I found it at koders.com05:56
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debedhi05:57
|Lord_Zoo|[kuch3n]  haha, no, sorry, wrong window05:57
debedcan anyone tyell me the usage of apt-cacher05:57
kuch3nyes05:57
kuch3nthe man pages it can :D05:57
ZombineerUSUL Also Digital Mars, GNU Common C++, and there's a wikipedia article about it05:57
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|Lord_Zoo|but sometimes money is the answer to all the questions :)05:57
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kuch3nhahah :D05:58
kuch3n50$ and i can tell you :D05:58
subhan-servelots;)05:58
|Lord_Zoo|hahaha05:58
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erUSULZombine: what are you trying to compile?05:58
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TuxOtaku!beryl05:59
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects05:59
kuch3ni <3 compiz fusion :D05:59
erUSULZombine: did you instaled build-essential05:59
erUSUL?05:59
kolbyalright.  Would anyone else like to debate with me about making a 3D usplash?05:59
ZombineerUSUL It's a dock app for *box (yes I have fluxbox installed) that measures my battery capacity.  bbacpi05:59
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ZombineerUSUL Yes indeed I have05:59
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kolbymy chat with mc44 helped05:59
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mc44kolby: this is a support channel, please keep on topic ;)06:00
Greyhound-I want to install ubuntu on vmware workstation 5.5 but I want to set the disk space to only 2 GB... is that ok ?06:00
radgeI used the alternate instal Cd of Ubuntu 7.10 rc1.  I know it isnt a final version but the partitioner didnt want to mount the NTFS file system of my Windows partition.   I have noticed this on all beta versions of gutsy.  Why is this happening ?  Have they stopped support of NTFS?06:00
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Piciradge: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support/discussion.06:00
radgeok will do06:00
kolbymc44: right, I was just wondering if there was a different line for development talk.  Any suggestions?06:01
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kuch3nyou need to enable ntfs write support by yourself :P06:01
kuch3n@radge06:01
qqanyone can play http://www.radio3net.ro/artisti.php?cx=details&id=27#p_player782  thx06:01
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mc44kolby: you can make feature requests on launchpad.net06:01
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kasansweathmm, is there a way to a have a simple, password protected text file? I want to store passwds and bank accounts and such, but I can't seem to find a simple text file type solution? Don't need anything as complicated as truecrypt, etc.06:02
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kolbymc44: yeah, that came to mind too.  I'm actually there right now.06:02
kasansweatobviously, I would require pgp or similar encryption06:02
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TuxOtaku!compiz06:02
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:02
kasansweat(ha, the 'i require' sounded totally obnoxious--my bad)06:03
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kolbymc44: thanks for the help, though.  It confirms that my idea isn't a complete waste of time.  I'll let the usplash developers tell me that.  lol06:03
ZombineerUSUL So.... think it might?  And since it's all just abstract functions, there's a good chance it can't actually do anything bad to my comp unless something implements it to do so, right?06:03
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nathexHey, my cpu graph is showing constant use (and states 100%". It's got a light blue graph that doesn't really spike that much, and a dark blue graph that is constantly spiked. Is this normal?06:03
erUSULZombine: i guess so but can not tell for sure06:04
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toxixcan I upgrade straight from 6.06 to 7.10? I dont need first upgrade to 7.04?06:04
jepesnathex: same for when im running virtualbox, half of the graph is filled hile the upper half only have spikes.06:04
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ZombineerUSUL I see.  Well if it doesn't work, then I haven't really lost anything except time, which I have an abundance of, so I'll try downloading it.06:05
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HoboBenHi, I have a Pentium Dual Core (not core duo?) is that best described as Pentium M or Core Solo/Duo when installing Swiftfox?06:05
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ZombineHoboBen Pent M06:05
HoboBenZombine, thanks - thought so! :-)06:05
ZombineHoboBen Especially if you're on a laptop.06:06
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nathexjepes: well, i'm just a little concerned. I'm obsessive about performance.06:06
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HoboBenZombine, yup - brand new from Dell today :-)06:06
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nathexit's just weird, nothing is showing up at 100%06:07
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nathexor even near it06:07
ZombineHoboBen I feel so sorry for you :D  My brother has sent his back sooo many times....  But good luck and enjoy your lap-sized computing experience :D06:07
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jepesnathex: but it only happens when i run virtualbox and not when i'm idle.06:07
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nathexjepes: this happens when i'm idle06:08
nathexI don't have VirtualBox either :-/06:08
HoboBenZombine - really? :-( It seems good so far...06:08
MrPink_does someone know if and how it is possible to create a keyboard shortcut Ctrl + D  to show Desktop like in windows06:08
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ZombineHoboBen Maybe the Linux-having will be a plus... my brother's got Vista Basic06:08
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Greyhound-I want to install ubuntu on vmware workstation 5.5 but I want to set the disk space to only 2 GB... is that ok ?06:09
jepesnathex: maybe something is eating up your cpu's resources. (not sure but its always a suspect when there is too much cpu activity when there isnt suppose to be)06:09
MrPink_I mean Windows + D06:09
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subhan-servelotsctrl+alt+d06:09
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SephirothI managed to restore grub. :D Thanks for the help.06:09
MrPink_is ctrl + alt + D show Desktop?06:09
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nathexjepes: probably, hmm... I should probablly stop some services & drivers that I don't use06:09
HoboBenZombine - heh, no Vista for me! :-) Ubuntu pre-installed, specially configured to work with their hardware even better.06:09
subhan-servelotsyah06:09
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qqhelpful06:09
ZombineHoboBen Oh yeah they're doing that now, aren't they?  Well good luck then :D06:10
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hansmexis there someone who can help me? I screwed up my PC installing Ubuntu06:10
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geniiMrPink_: Yes, ctrl-ald-D is equiv of windows' ctrl-D06:10
MrPink_aha... so is there a way to change ctrl + alt + d to windows + D  ?06:10
genii*ctrl-alt-D    (bleh, typos!)06:11
nathexbtw, what's the proper way to disable services?I know you can gointo init.d and chmod-x them, but is there a "proper" way to go about it?06:11
subhan-servelotsyah,06:11
HoboBenThanks Zombine! Swiftfox is working great too. Have a nice day, I'm off!06:11
nathexSort of like motprobe.d does06:11
npnufnare there any known bugs in kubuntu 7.10 or in it's kernel.  my system(Celeron 1GHz/256MB) is dead slow.  I can see only high disk activity and nothing else.  Sorry for asking about beta,06:11
npnufnHow can I make my system smooth running?  Will it persist in the release also?06:11
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t3318hi06:12
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geniiMrPink_: See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24550906:12
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MrPink_thx06:12
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t3318anyone know how to customize GCompris UI? I ca'nt find any glade fild06:12
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MrPink_thx I'll check it out one sec06:12
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t3318anyone know how to customize GCompris UI? I ca'nt find any glade file06:13
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basti_in #ubuntu-de06:13
jepesnathex: how about System |  Administrator | Services ?06:13
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philipHello all....have a big headache.....have allot of questions....06:14
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nathexjepes: doesn't show all of them, but i'll manage :)06:14
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jepesnathex:  i'm sure you will. :p06:15
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philipU hope some one can help....I started learning how to script, doing good so far. one big questions the book says that I have to write: "#!/bin/sh" in the beginning of each script, the thing is that when I write it the script stops working (especially with simple math calculations). when I omit it all the scripts work just fine....what's the deal with that??06:18
burghelp?...06:18
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nathexhmm, how would I go about disabling stuff like "EISA, and isapnp" ?06:18
nathexwithought recompiling the kernel that is06:19
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Ling-Linghi there, is there a way to edit the boot menu under ubuntu with a gui? no extra cd, or what ever...06:19
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adantehi, anybody use lvm here? my logical volumes are defined as 3 segmented each with a single stripe, is this basically linear mapping?06:20
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npnufnI am getting HDIO_SET_DMA failed when I tried run hdparm: Operation not permitted, this may be the cause to my system's bad performance.  How can I enable it.06:22
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logreevalHi, im looking for software to capture video of your desktop...anyone know any like that?06:23
mikebotDoes ubuntu come pre-installed witha  partitioning tool?06:23
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logreevalmikebot: yes06:23
mikebotlogreeval: How do I use it?06:23
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reberhi all. I upgraded to gutsy and xorg.conf doesn't work anymore in dual screen (ATI 7500). Any ideas ?06:24
Picireber: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support/discussion.06:24
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logreevalmikebot do you have ubuntu installed?06:24
mikebotgutsy is out?06:25
mikebotlogreeval: Yes.06:25
reberPici, ok06:25
abhihow can I add microsoft explorer mouse in ubuntu 7.04?06:25
rebermikebot, update-manager -d -c (but you are running unstable ok !)06:25
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logreevalmikebot - gparted06:26
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logreevalactually, you might need to install gparted06:27
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mikebotreber: Wait, what?06:27
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mikebotOh OK.06:27
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iNoobhelpzor guys06:27
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mikebotlogreeval: That's the terminal command?06:27
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PiciiNoob: askzor your question06:28
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logreevalmikebot , yes , try synaptic for gparted06:28
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iNoobdoes anyone noe whats the difference between ls and ls -l commands?06:28
mikebotlogreeval: Wait, I'm confused.06:28
mikebot-gparted06:28
mikebotUsage: command-not-found [options]  <command-name>06:28
itch_hello guys. what has to be the value of umask in a fstab line, so the partition is with read /write access for any user ?06:28
logreevalinstall it through synaptic06:29
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grimboyiNoob, ls -l gives you information about each file.06:29
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mikebotoh ok06:29
iNoobthank you06:29
Moduliz0r__hi guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask... but I couldn't think of anywhere else... Would a port map of 8000-8010,3389,135-139,445 work?06:29
grimboyYou should be able to see the difference unless you already have ls aliased to ls -l06:29
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livingdaylightHola Compadres!06:29
iNoobi just started06:29
BlkGhostanyone seen an error in VMware with ubuntu where all of the sudden the virtural machines run at very strange speeds and when you get into windows its running at like super speed and the time is runnign crazy fast ???06:29
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geefinatorBlkGhost:  No, but that sounds trippy06:30
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BlkGhostyeah its insame06:30
livingdaylightit is not ubuntu but my Amarok broke in Ubuntu... when i remove and reinstall the same settings and problem come back... how can i really really remove so that when i reinstall i really really get a fresh install... i cannot find any hidden files06:30
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lalalande_hi to the room06:30
mikebotWhen I upgrade to Gutsy, will I have to reinstall anything?06:30
outlaw686hey guys how do I edit permissions like mounting and un-mounting a drive without giving a user admin privlages?06:31
geefinatorlivingdaylight: try sudo apt-get remove amarak --purge06:31
grimboyHmm, shouldn't ubuntu have FePy packages for ironpython?06:31
BlkGhostI'm watching go so fast the time is like for every second it = 2 mins06:31
grimboyThe version at the moment is really irritating.06:31
ricercialivingdaylight did u clear out stuff in ur home directory?06:31
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Moduliz0r__does anyone know much about port mapping?06:31
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logreevalmikebot I dont think so, but some programs may not work with gutsy depending...06:31
StFShi... I'm trying to boot up my ubuntu live cd (7.10 RC) but I keep getting a message from the screen that it can't display the video mode... is there any way to adjust that somehow when starting the live cd? (I've tried the "safe graphics mode" but that just doesn't boot up at all)06:31
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grimboyIt doesn't understand line editing and it changes the terminal colour.06:31
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livingdaylightricercia, i can't find any hidden files related to amarok in my home06:31
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BlkGhosteven the windows startup screen with the blue line loading06:31
BlkGhostits like a frekin blur06:31
ricerciayh they r in .kde06:32
ricerciathen goto share06:32
lalalande_a general question what is the main diffrence between ubuntu & kubuntu?06:32
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ricerciaapps06:32
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ricerciaand amarok will be there06:32
Moduliz0r__Kubuntu is more KDE-based?06:32
geefinatorlalalande: desktop environments06:32
lalalande_but can i use all the apps in both?06:32
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geefinatorlalalande:  Ubuntu uses gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE and Xubuntu uses XFCE06:32
outlaw686lalande: its a different desktop enviroment and the apps are differtn but you can use the apps in both in most cases06:33
rpj8Hey, how do I go about assigning a password with the "adduser" command?06:33
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geefinatorlalalande:  you can, but then you end up having all those librarys taking up space.  But if you don't mind that, go for it.06:33
stuartany one have any experience mounting an NTFS Raid 0 partition?06:33
erUSULrpj8: sudo passwd <user>06:33
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lalalande_i mean for what kind of users is ubuntu and for what kubuntu?06:33
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rpj8erUSUL: Couldn't I do it when I create the user with "adduser"?06:34
geefinatorlalalande:  Its just personal preference to be honest.06:34
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geefinatorlalalande:  Some love gnome, some love kde and others like XFCE, just up to you and what programs you like.06:34
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Moduliz0r__Gnome = :D06:34
adantehi, has anybody followed the LVMOnRaid guide in the wiki? it refers to a "Configure RAID" option i cannot seem to find06:35
lalalande_in your opinion which is more efficient06:35
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BlkGhostgeefinator I got a error message from vmware saying that this machine is running at 61mhz .. but it going at insane speed like under 10seconds to boot a xp pro vm machine..06:35
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mikebotHow do I use gparted?06:35
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erUSULrpj8: you can with useradd but not with adduser afaics06:35
BlkGhostI have a decent machine but its not that fast06:35
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geefinatorlalalande:  If you have a decent rig I would use gnome, but like I said I can't really say what is the best.  It's like asking what the best car is, everyone has an opinion.06:35
rpj8erUSUL: My bad... how do I assign a password with 'useradd'06:36
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geefinatorBlkGhost:  sorry bro, I have no experience with VMware :/06:36
rpj8erUSUL: I read somewehre it nmeeds to be encrypted.06:36
BlkGhostk06:36
erUSULrpj8: yes read the man page it is the -p switch06:36
mikebotDoes anyone here know how to use gparted?06:37
geefinatormikebot:  Are you trying to resize the partition?06:37
lalalande_can i install both in the same machine?06:37
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jepesmikebot: it is similar to partition magic06:37
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iNoobone last question am im out? does anyone know how to check if theres a hidden file @ home directory?06:38
fevelis it possible to install ubuntu-studio through the repositories?06:38
mikebotgeefinator: Yes.06:38
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iNoobive used this command ls -a~06:38
ricerciaiNoob: yes06:38
geefinatoriNoob: ls -la will display hidden files.06:38
mikebotjepes: Is it command line?06:38
jepesgui06:38
mikebotjepes: Ah06:38
iNoobtytytyt06:38
geefinatormikebot:  It isn't command line, but if you are trying to resize the root partition you will have to do so from the livecd06:38
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erUSULrpj8: here you can read how to get the encryted pass http://mia.ece.uic.edu/~papers/linux/msg00038.html06:38
RAdam1Trying to set up a folder to be seen by windows computers on this domain. Followed the ubuntu SettingUpSamba instructions, but I cannot see any of the domain's shares, nor can any domain computers see mine. Can anyone lend a hand?06:39
mikebotgeefinator: What I did was make a seperate partition, but I just want to delete that it recomine it with this one/06:39
jepesmikebot: and backup your data before you do so,06:39
iNoobu guys rok06:39
iNoob;p im out06:39
geefinatormikebot:  Oh, you should be able to do that without unmounting anything, but to be totally honest I am not sure.06:39
mikebotgeeksteph: Well, I never even mounted the new partition./06:39
geefinatormikebot:  And yes, backup yer data before you do anything :)06:40
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mikebotHrm, so basically I have extended and linux-swap.06:40
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mikebotAnd then an ext3 where I keep my data and unallocated, and I want to add that unallocated to the data ext306:41
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macafeHi, I have 40GB in my music folder.. But the most of the files are in *.wmv and *.ogg, I would like convert all this using shell script... Anyone know some application for do this in command line ?06:41
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mikebotBut it is locked..does that mean I have to use the boot cd?06:42
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jepesmikebot: if it is locked just right click it then select unmount. if it is the root file system gparted will not allow it to be unmounted (or the system will not allow gparted to unmount it) , just the same.06:43
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cubesisI tried installing my nvidia drivers but they don't work can anyone tell me what i type to revert to the backup06:43
andresmujicaanyone knows how can i view at least a docx document in ubuntu???06:43
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mikebotThe partition could not be unmounted from the following mountpoints:06:43
mikebot/06:43
paule118paule118.desktop06:43
RAdam1Trying to set up a folder to be seen by windows computers on this domain. Followed the ubuntu SettingUpSamba instructions, but I cannot see any of the domain's shares, nor can any domain computers see mine. Can anyone lend a hand?06:43
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cubesisI can't get x to work how do i go to the backup06:44
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geniimikebot: If you u(n)mount the root or / partition you will be in pretty serious trouble06:44
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jepesmikebot: yes, you probably need the live cd. but i STRONGLY  suggest backup your data before resizing it or doing anything that changes the layout of your disk.06:45
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=== Topic for #ubuntu: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | Please be patient and read the FAQ. | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Gutsy is NOT supported, beta testers can join #ubuntu+1
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(datadevil/#ubuntu) guilinfd: in gnome..08:44
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(silvernode/#ubuntu) ader10:E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:45
(silvernode/#ubuntu) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:45
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lip_asfor talking08:45
guilinfdI know it is in gnome, but for what? what is the purpose of the software?08:45
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toedsomething's broken overnight on my feisty laptop, whenever I try to start any program from the menu it just says "starting __..." for a while and then it disappears08:45
ader10silvernode: Do you have a package manager running already?08:45
datadevilguilinfd: sorry, thought you meant my alt-tab question08:45
ader10such as synaptic08:46
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silvernodeader10:lol yeah oops08:46
Ubersoldattoed: try using the console to see if any errors show08:46
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toedI can't start the terminal08:46
IdleOnehow can i set FF to open my gmail account when I click on a email link?08:46
silvernodeader10: could not find package teamspeak08:46
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FastPuttysomeone could help me when i tried to get the list in the ftp, it said 550 Secure Listing Required, i am using ftp-ssl08:47
^LadyVaMpIrKa^ppl I am trying to put  cirilic on ubuntu but i cant08:47
^LadyVaMpIrKa^what should I do08:47
^LadyVaMpIrKa^cirillyc*08:47
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^LadyVaMpIrKa^it's a phonetic08:48
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^LadyVaMpIrKa^any assistance ?08:48
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ader10silvernode: you might have to enable universe/multierse repositories08:48
toedUbersoldat: if I ctrl+alt+f1, set $display and start gnome-terminal it works08:48
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silvernodeader10:i used synaptic and it found teamspeak and it's downloading08:48
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datadevilmy alt-tab is broken, anyone know how to fix it? (7.10something)08:48
datadevili googled, but its kinda hard to find08:48
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mrtubbyQuick question about the applications menu in gnome: Is is possible to configure which programs appear on it by hand?08:48
Aw0Lno one here use PDA's?08:48
ader10silvernode: When it finished you should be able to start ts w/ "aoss teamspeak"08:48
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Pici!locale | ^LadyVaMpIrKa^08:49
ubotu^LadyVaMpIrKa^: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf08:49
^LadyVaMpIrKa^O'pleas give some help08:49
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^LadyVaMpIrKa^ok,thanks xxxx08:49
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TimS!wireless | Fern08:49
ubotuFern: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:49
guilinfdmrtubby of course you can08:49
silvernodeader10:ok i will let you know08:49
FernO_O08:49
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FernHow did you know what I was going to ask?08:50
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TimSBecause, I am god08:50
FernXD08:50
FernThanks Tim and ubotu08:50
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IdleOnemrtubby: System> Preferrences > Main Menu08:51
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guilinfdanybody in finland?08:52
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Piciguilinfd: most of the people in #ubuntu-fi I think08:52
FernCan you just tell me if this wireless card is supported: Netopia 3D reach Wireless PC card08:52
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mrtubbythank you IdleOne08:52
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tusseywhat's the best way to get skype for linux?08:52
mrtubbyAnd now i feel retarded08:52
guilinfdok, but maybe they speak finnish there08:52
TimStussey: From their website08:52
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guilinfdI can't understand08:53
tusseythe link is broken08:53
IdleOnemrtubby: dont . not everything is obvious. especially the obvious08:53
MickMcMackHey, I'm having some problems with Ubuntu 7,10 amd64. If I try to use the `nvidia' drivers [installed from the restricted driver thingie] , I get no video signal. If I use `nv', I just get garbage on the screen. The only way I can get X to run is with `vesa'.08:53
silvernodeader10:it worked thanks alot08:53
TimS!skype | tussey08:53
ubotutussey: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto08:53
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Fern!netopia08:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about netopia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:53
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MickMcMackBut then obviously I have to use a crap resolution, etc.08:53
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tusseyI can't help but think AT&T purposely sabotages their webpage08:53
rglhi08:53
ader10On AIGLX w/ compiz and a quake 3 based game (opengl), the entire system gets about 10 fps but the game claims to be running at 90. How do I fix it?08:53
MickMcMackAnyone have any ideas?08:53
rglI'm using ubuntu fiesty (7.04) and scanimage outputs: `/usr/share/sane/gt68xx/PS1Dfw.usb): No such file or directory`.  Is there a package I can get the .usb file from?  or do I have to manually install it from sane-project.org?08:53
datadevilgrmbl08:53
tusseyit take me to an AT&T 40408:53
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Flowhey guys, i got a problem with the installation .... if my PC boots up the CD and i choose "Start/Install Ubuntu" a logo screens up and a banner runs through the window - after 30 secs it turns into black and i got something like a console - what to do to get it to install ? qry me plz08:54
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tusseytype in skype.com08:55
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tusseytakes you to AT&T portal08:55
Flowcome on guys im lost :/08:55
Desert_Eaglelost? with what?08:56
Flowinstallation of ubuntu08:56
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FernSo are Netopia wireless cards supported by Ubuntu?08:56
Desert_Eagleyou mean you have a little trouble on ubuntu intallation;08:56
Desert_Eagle?08:56
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FastPuttysomeone could help me when i tried to get the list in the ftp, it said 550 Secure Listing Required, i am using ftp-ssl08:56
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ubunt1hello guys I have a problem with mi ubuntu CD I can't boot it on my laptop can you please help mi08:56
Flare183How do you alternate colors on OpenOffice.org Calc?08:56
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Flowgo into bios08:57
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Flare183ubunt1:> try the alternative cd08:57
Flowand change bootup - CD first partition 2nd08:57
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Flare183!alternative08:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:57
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Flare183!slow08:57
ubotuThe Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.08:57
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Flare183something like that08:58
ubunt1ok08:58
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CancunRoothola08:58
ernz....why would I be banned from #PHP....?08:58
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ernzlmao08:58
Flowthx 4 help :/08:58
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|daver|does the live cd include XFS tools?08:58
ubunt1guys can someone help me?08:58
ernzAnyone care to answer a PHP question?08:58
ader10On AIGLX w/ compiz and a quake 3 based game (opengl), the entire system gets about 10 fps but the game claims to be running at 9008:58
guilinfdis there  some software cd for linux?08:59
ader10How do I fix it?08:59
guilinfdor dvd08:59
Piciernz: I believe you need to be resgistered to join #php08:59
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cubethe repositories drivers don't work for my nvidia geforce card i have the cd with linux drivers does that mean my option is to build a kernel with them in there or is there something easier08:59
nicoooo!list08:59
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:59
ernzPici: No, I am actually banned. I don't have a CLUE why I am even banned. I was in there once, and everything went swimmingly.08:59
CancunRoothi friends09:00
Flare183ernz:> you might have done something wrong or againest the rules09:00
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ernzFlare183: Asking a PHP question?09:00
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bqmasseyin Amarok, my NTFS partition doesn't show up right away like it does in the file browser... what would it be under?09:01
Flare183ernz:> maybe or your not asking the right group, someone might have created #php for another use09:01
ader10On AIGLX w/ compiz and a quake 3 based game (opengl), the entire system gets about 10 fps but the game claims to be running at 90. How do I fix it?09:01
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Flare183!effects09:01
ubotuFor help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects09:01
Flare183!effects | ader1009:01
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ubotuader10: please see above09:01
Piciernz: the channel name is ##php btw, not #php09:01
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Stormx2`bqmassey: Wherever you mounted it. Perhaps under /media?09:01
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ader10Ty flare09:02
Flare183ader10:> welcome09:02
ernzAhhhh. Well, my question is: Assuming I have the line: echo "<li type=circle><b>Diameter:</b>&nbsp;<i>".$diameter."</i>";        --> How can I get quotation marks to appear around the 'circle' attribute?09:02
macafeHi, using "Intel Core 2 Duo" with distro 64bits I can have some errors in applications ?09:02
guilinfdanyone give some recommendation?09:02
Piciernz: this is offtopic, if you're banned from there, it doesnt makeit okay to ask here.09:02
srcIntel core 2 is 64 bit!?09:02
TuxOtakuis gutsy stable enough that I won't have any problems upgrading from feisty through update-manager? or should I just wait until it's officially released??09:02
guilinfdI mean the software cd/dvd in linux09:02
bqmasseyStormx2`: all i have there are cdrom's ... it was mounting automatically09:02
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bqmasseywait.. maybe not09:02
MickMcMackHey, I'm having some problems with Ubuntu 7,10 amd64. If I try to use the `nvidia' drivers [installed from the restricted driver thingie] , I get no video signal. If I use `nv', I just get garbage on the screen. The only way I can get X to run is with `vesa'. But then obviously I have to use a crappy resolution. Any ideas?09:03
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PiciMickMcMack: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support/discussion.09:03
FastPuttysomeone could help me when i tried to get the list in the ftp, it said 550 Secure Listing Required, i am using ftp-ssl09:03
MickMcMackThanks. :309:03
macafeernz, You can do echo "teste \" bla bla bla "09:03
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cubemy mainboard came with drivers how do i install them, do i have to compile a new kernel or is there some easy way09:03
ernzPici: I have asked loads of Off Topics in here. More often than not, it takes less than a minute and people here are really helpful.09:03
Stormx2`guilinfd: Could you be a little more specific on "software cds"? the ubuntu CD comes packaged with a lot of software, with more available from internet repositories09:03
ernzMacafe! A break character! Of course, cheers for that. Would have taken me all night.09:03
Piciernz: you can try in #ubuntu-offtopic.09:03
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ernzPici: See, that wasn't so painful, was it ;)09:04
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Flare183How do you alternate colors on OpenOffice.org Calc?09:04
ernzCheers Macafe: Laters.09:04
macafeernz, ?09:04
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PiciFlare183: Have you tried asking in #openoffice.org, since you arent getting much of a reply here?09:04
Flare183he was thanking you09:04
hayashi1te09:04
Flare183ok thanks Pici09:04
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guilinfdStormx2`:  ok man, I mean some software package, you know I don't want to setup them from the internet09:04
macafeI don't speak English so welll...09:04
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bqmasseyStormx2`: got it. thanks.09:04
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bqmasseyStormx2`: i wonder.. is there a way to have that mounted on startup?  it required my password09:05
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ernzmacafe: Thank you for your help.09:05
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cubeim on a asus l1n-64 and the ubuntu supplied drivers won't work, if i have the cd with them does that mean i have to compile my own kernel?09:05
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Stormx2`bqmassey: Mounting your ntfs partition? sure09:05
Stormx2`!ntfs-3g | bqmassey09:06
ubotubqmassey: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions09:06
guilinfdcube, how to compile it? I also want to know?09:06
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cubei don't know if thats what i have to do09:06
cubeor is there some other way to use the drivers09:06
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Curley_Suehi all, I need to use a framegrabber which driver I have for kernel 2.2 only. how can i install the driver in gutsy?09:06
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aguitelevery times when k3b starts it freeze my system anyone know about it?09:07
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toedis there a way to return all the desktop/menu/panel settings to the default?09:08
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toednothing works in my normal user but if I make a new one it all works fine09:08
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groversis it possible to change the VNC/remote desktop password from a shell? ie. where is the config file for remote desktop?09:09
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guilinfdif I need to do some fragment reduce work in linux09:09
aguitelevery times when k3b starts it freeze my system anyone know about it?09:09
Picigrovers: vncpasswd is the executable iirc.09:09
groversbam, thanks Pici09:10
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Curley_Suetoed: what does not work..?09:10
Stormx2`aguitel: Perhaps make a log?09:10
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Stormx2`aguitel: E.g. k3b > ~/k3b.log09:11
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toedCurley_Sue: any program I try to start, it just says "starting __" and then disappears and nothing happens09:11
aguitelStormx2`: how?09:11
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Curley_Sue! tell me about driver09:11
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aguitelStormx2`: ok09:11
guilinfdwhy I can't run the smplayer now09:11
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RodGohi all i need some help09:11
guilinfdit worked once well well09:11
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aguitelStormx2`: no logs09:12
RodGohow can i list all files in a directory and execute a command for each one of them?09:12
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tux97hi09:12
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=== Topic for #ubuntu: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | Please be patient and read the FAQ. | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Gutsy is NOT supported, beta testers can join #ubuntu+1
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(SuperBlimp/#ubuntu) it does not work when i do 'sudo apt-get install freenet'09:16
(tux97/#ubuntu) same here super blimp on my laptop09:16
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(Curley_Sue/#ubuntu) RodGo: (have you tried:) for k in $(ls /path); do yourcommand $k; done09:16
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k2at the risk of being given one of those alt-f4 commands anyone here wanting to teach a newbie so low level code writing?09:17
guilinfdwhat is for freenet?09:17
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RodGothanks all09:18
mc44k2: this isn't the right channel09:18
Torturedwhats the easiest way of installing freenx on fiesty?09:18
SuperBlimpguilinfd its a totaly anonymous p2p software system09:18
RodGothis worked for me09:18
RodGofind script -type f | grep -v '.svn'|xargs -i svn propset svn:executable "*" {}09:18
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RodGoill also try Curley_Sue 's solution (y)09:18
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ferronicahow to recover ubuntu 7.04 gnome09:18
mc44k2: try ##C09:18
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guilinfdSuperBlimp I can find some materia from it and download it, or it is just a download tool09:19
k2any suggestions as to were i can go to get started writing for my ubuntu09:19
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ferronicaubuntu gets unstable09:19
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k2just writing in general09:19
crossfireHello im an IT Manger and im seeking some advice on linux networking09:19
k2like what?09:19
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Stormx2`crossfire: Fire away09:20
kaw22Trying to make Cron run a php script but cannot make it work. I've added this: 1  *  *  * *   php /var/www/on01.php to crontab. Anyone have any ideas?09:20
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Curley_Suetoed: what desktop-manager are you using? the default gnome?09:21
Torturedwhats the keyboard command to switch desktops with beryl?09:21
toedCurley_Sue: yeah09:21
MasterShrekctrl+alt+left/right usually Tortured09:21
Torturedthanks09:21
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toedreally haven't changed anything except for addign a few applets to the panel09:21
console_jockeyI'm building a server with an Adaptec hardware RAID controller.  I've configured it for RAID 5 and installed ubuntu edgy.  When I test the RAID by powering down a single drive while the OS is operational, the OS halts and I have to reboot the system.  Question: if I'm using hardware RAID level 5 with hot-swap, if the RAID is working correctly, shouldn't the OS remain running while the bad drive is replaced and rebuilt on09:21
console_jockeythe fly?09:21
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kazim59kaw22: if you've localhost setup... try wget localhost/on01.php09:21
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MiVoHello, someone using Internet DJ Console here ?09:21
crossfireI need to know how to bridge ubuntu fiesty with two ethernet cards09:21
MiVoI don't get streaming to work09:21
MasterShrekconsole_jockey, i think so09:22
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The_Joe_Hi I was following this tutorial here to get my sound done: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto But when I use sudo make on alsa-driver I get some weird error, gonna pastebin it09:22
cubemy motherboards drivers end in .c and .h what do i do with them09:22
Vletkaw22: Are you using 'crontab -e' to edit it, or are you editing the crontab files manually?09:22
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console_jockeyMasterShrek: that's what I thought.  But without fail if the raid fails, so does the OS.  Might that be an issue with the controller then, do you suppose?09:22
crossfirebasically so i can put the internet(fed by lan cable) into my server then back out through another ethernet port on the server09:22
MasterShrekcube, what do you need motherboard drivers for?09:22
kaw22Vlet: yes I'm using crontab -e09:22
cubefor my chipset09:22
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cubewhen i go into system everything is unkown09:23
MasterShrekconsole_jockey, im not really sure, ive never used a raid before09:23
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Vletkaw22: did you check root's mail to see if there were errors running the script?09:23
kaw22Vlet: After a change it says: "crontab: installing new crontab" so I assume its running fine09:23
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aleksi_after upgrade from feisty to gutsy, gnome crashes on atempt to log in, any of you have ideas what to do?09:23
ferronicahow to run recover on ubuntu 7.04 ?09:23
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hayashi1test crontab -T09:23
console_jockeyMasterShrek: ok, thanks.  You've at least confirmed that my thoughts aren't at least completely alien... heh09:23
kaw22Vlet: No, how do I go about doing that?09:23
MasterShrekaleksi_, remove .gnome and .gnome2 from your home directory, youll lose all your gnome settings, but it should load then09:23
diploconsole_jockey : If it's a Adaptec card, why not install Adaptec software and you can access the card via a web interface09:24
arnathhi, i moved ubuntu 6.06 from one vmware server to another, but for some reason, internet will _not_ work, and yes, i changed the MAC address in the config09:24
diploList any errors you have09:24
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Vletkaw22: sudo mail09:24
cubeu know mastershrek?09:24
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kaw22Vlet: It says command not found09:24
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MasterShrekcube, not really, are you using 7.04?09:24
cubethe repositories for my chipset and graphics card don't work09:24
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cubeyeah09:24
MasterShrektry 7.1009:24
kaw22Vlet: Don't have any mailprograms installed it seems09:24
console_jockeydiplo: excellent suggestion, but a new one to me.  I guess I will have to double check the adaptec site to see if that's even something I can do with this controller.09:25
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cubei can't upgrade so i gotta make the iso :(09:25
Vletkaw22: ooh yeah, mine does the same... hmm09:25
diployeah, all controllers i've had have a tar file for it09:25
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MasterShrekcube, ur from mn? i can give u mine lol09:25
cubeyeah09:25
diploThen again most of the cards i fit are 300-400+ so may be a good reason, but pretty sure it covers a wide range09:25
cubewhere u at09:25
MasterShrekst cloud09:25
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cubeim in wyoming09:26
cubenorth of forestlake09:26
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MasterShrekyea i noticed, not really worth the drive for an rc cd lol09:26
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kaw22Vlet: Just installing mailx, will see if I recieve mails after that. Should get one every minute right? :)09:26
cubeworth a postage stamp?09:26
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Vletkaw22: yeah, if there are errors09:26
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bododohi folks :)09:26
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arnathanyone here have any experience with vmware?09:26
MasterShrekcube, i spose, but it would take a couple days im sure, do u have a friend or access to another comp that u can just download the image and burn it?09:27
Enkidu_AkGood afternoon.09:27
bododoI have a very weak wifi signal on my ibook, what can i do?09:27
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riotkittieyou can probably burn the disc at your library.09:27
ader10Nobody in #ubuntu-effects will help me. Again, hoping someone here will help, my question is: On AIGLX w/ compiz and a quake 3 based game (opengl), the entire system gets about 10 fps but the game claims to be running at 90. How do I fix it?09:27
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hayashi1you have airport router ?09:27
cubenah i don't at the moment but i can figure it out09:27
Curley_Suetoed: you said that opening a new user allows you normal work?09:27
cubeader whats your graphics card09:27
bododohayashi1: no, a dlink one09:27
toedCurley_Sue: yeah everything works fine for the normal user, but not my regular one09:27
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bododobut an airport extreme wifi card09:28
ader10cube: nvidia geForce 760009:28
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node357I have a 7600..09:28
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cubeand the drivers are working fine>09:28
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cubei have a 8600 ddr3 and i can't get my drivers working :(09:28
bododohayashi1: do you run on an ibook?09:28
IpMooBetai try to install ubuntustudio.. but the graphics are too big to read at 1st install09:28
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node357:(09:28
Flare183ader10:> try it without compiz09:28
cubegts09:28
ader10cube: I assume all of the drivers are working properly09:28
cubedo you get the nvidia boot screen09:28
ader10Flare183: Without compiz I get 300 fps stable09:28
cubewhen you boot does it flash nvidia09:28
kaw22Vlet: I'm not getting any09:28
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ader10Flare183: With compiz I get 90 stable09:29
node357mine does cube09:29
cubeim talking to ader :)09:29
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node357okay sorry09:29
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ader10cube: Yes, nvidia bios and I have the proprietary nvidia drivers for linux (installed through Envy)09:29
Flare183ader10:> then just go without compiz with that game09:29
Flare183i guess09:29
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kbrooksader10, we dont support envy09:29
Vletkaw22: well, then you should determine if your php script is actually running... try putting a shell_exec('touch /var/test'); at the beginning of the script09:29
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hayashi1check the gnome-netstatus09:29
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MasterShrek!envy09:29
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!09:29
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ader10kbrooks: I'm not asking for help on Envy. Envy works fine.09:30
cubewhere do i download fiesty09:30
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dwxreaperi compiled snort because the packaged version is old. how do i make it a daemon, like the packaged version09:30
cubethe ubuntu site says in 3 days09:30
dwxreaperso i can go /etc/init.d/snort restart09:30
toedCurley_Sue: hrm, I wiped ~/.gnome2 and ~/.gconf but it didn't fix the problem09:30
arang2!automatix09:30
bododoanyone's using an ibook, here? :(09:30
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)09:30
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ader10kbrooks: I'm only asking for help on how to get compiz and my game running at the same time. Envy has nothing to do with that.09:30
hayashi1i have 92% :)09:30
cube!fiesty09:30
ubotuIt is spelt "FEIsty" :)09:30
kaw22Vlet: If I run "php /var/www/on01.php" it works fine, isn't this enough to determine that?09:30
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node357compiz will play hell with your FPS...09:30
cube!feisty09:30
Flare183!upgrade09:30
ubotuUbuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents09:30
rajappanis there any way to increase download speed of apt ;)09:30
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes09:30
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ader10kbrooks: If you insist that I don't use Envy, I can compile the drivers myself or use ubuntu's09:30
ader10kbrooks: Any ideas?09:31
bododoam I the only one? :'(09:31
MasterShrekrajappan, make sure your repose are close to you09:31
v3ctorrajappan: try different mirror09:31
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kbrooksader10, i dont want to insist when it works09:31
The_Joe_Does anything look wrong with this to anyone? http://pastebin.ca/73783409:31
The_Joe_Gah sorry about that Wireless went made09:31
hayashi1you have ppc or intel chip ?09:31
The_Joe_Am I here?09:31
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node357you're here Joe09:31
bododohayashi1: ppc09:31
diplo#html09:31
bododohayashi1: ibook G409:31
ader10kbrooks: Good :) No ideas? :(09:31
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bododohayashi1: you ppc too?09:32
rajappanMasterShrek ::i can download deb files faster using download accelerators so can i make apt use them09:32
aleksi_my x crashes saying "refcount is 2 should be 1"09:32
dwxreaperi compiled snort because the packaged version is old. how do i make it a daemon, like the packaged version09:32
dwxreaperso i can go /etc/init.d/snort restart09:32
crossfireAnyone able to help me 1-1 personally about networking?09:32
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ader10"compiz plays hell with your fps" - Windows Vista can take Enemy Territory and play it fine with aero (I've seen it first-hand at my friend's). Why can't linux?09:32
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ader10node357: ^see above^09:33
Flare183crossfire:> I can to some extented point09:33
node357yeah ader10 but Vista disables Aero when you play full screen games09:33
Gek_I'm trying to "Add/Remove Applications" for the first time.  When I click on something like the GVim Text Editor, I get a popup that says "The list of applications is not availabe"  <--yes spelled just like that.09:33
hayashi1im using bcm43xxx drivers09:33
Gek_It wants me to reload09:33
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Curley_Suetoed: I would compare files of the same sort (.something) between the two users...09:33
node357if you havent noticed it switches to "Windows Vista Basic"09:33
ader10node357: I don't play fullscreen and they don't either09:33
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Flare183crossfire:> join #shstech if you really want to09:33
chris__ im using the intel xorg driver and now when i try to play movies using XV theyre over exposed. changing to X11 playback fixes it. I'm sure XV used to work though, any ideas?09:33
Gek_when I do... it acts like its doing something but never does09:33
The_Joe_Hi, I'm trying to install drivers using a tutorial I found on help.ubuntu, does anything look wrong in this ouput from sudo make? http://pastebin.ca/73783409:33
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Gek_ideas?09:33
bododohayashi1: i do too with the apple airport2 firmeware09:33
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node357I really don't know... perhaps in a few months they'll address the problem09:34
ader10node357: the game is more than 3 years old, it should run fine09:34
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bododobut it only works when i'm really close near to the router09:34
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crossfirethanks flare18309:34
node357all I know is  have to disable compiz to get a decent framerate09:34
node357which is easy in Feisty anyway09:34
ader10node357: well at least it might happen that somebody will "address the problem" - that's better than most open source :) thanks.09:34
Curley_Suetoed: I have a very ugly solution (that is, if you can't figure a nicer one) - open a new user which has the same sudo permissions as your original and copy all important files form your home to the new one...09:34
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node357lol no problem09:34
node357it's definitely not perfect..09:34
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ader10I agree09:34
Curley_Sueneed help: I need to use a framegrabber which driver I have for kernel 2.2 only. how can i install the driver in gutsy?09:35
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The_Joe_I get The Composite extension is not available when I click Desktop Effects09:35
node357:(09:35
PreZGNHow much data is the dist update to GG?09:35
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geniiPreZGN: Somewhere about half a gig09:35
ader10A different problem: While I listen to music with MPD and play Enemy Territory at the same time, I want the music to be quiet and the game to be at a normal volume level, however, when I change the volume of MPD it changes the volume of Enemy Territory at the same time. How can I fix it?09:35
Gek_What irc client are most people in ubuntu using?09:36
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chris__ader10: change the mixer control in mpd.conf09:36
ader10I'm using pidgin because it supports xfire as well as some other protocols09:36
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Curley_Suetoed: try cancelling the desktop special effects...09:36
ader10chris__: What do I change?09:36
bododobye09:36
chris__open up mpd.conf09:36
The_Joe_Can anyone help me with this? I swear somethings wrong with this output: http://pastebin.ca/73783409:36
FastPuttysomeone could help me when i tried to get the list in the ftp, it said 550 Secure Listing Required, i am using ftp-ssl09:36
node357Gek_, GAIM is the only one provided by default... I use xchat or irssi09:36
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toedCurley_Sue: they're off, I just copied the .gconf and .gnome2 from the new user to the old one but that hasn't fixed things either09:37
PreZGNthen I'll do it when I get home ;)09:37
ader10chris__: it's in vim at the moment09:37
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andy58hey all09:37
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Torturedhow do i enable/install the nvidia module from the command line?09:37
The_Joe_I guess not -.-09:37
andy58is there a better alternative for MSN Messenger than Gaim?09:37
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nabaxhi all09:37
chris__ader10: hang on, i'm just looking at the example one, cant remember what u need 2 change lol09:37
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ader10andy58: Yes, it's called Pidgin09:38
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ader10chris__: thanks09:38
ader10andy58: Gaim is out of date, it is now called Pidgin.09:38
nabaxandy55 it depends on what you're looking for09:38
nabax58*09:38
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v3ctorpidgin = gaim post lawsuite settlement09:38
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node357andy58, try amsn09:38
chris__ader10: find mixer_control09:39
andy58gaim doesnt do a good enough job of alerting when people come online09:39
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The_Joe_Anyone? http://pastebin.ca/73783409:39
nabaxor centericq ;)09:39
Flare183andy58:> try Kopete09:39
The_Joe_I'm trying to use sudo make on Alsa drivers09:39
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chris__+1 for kopete09:39
andy58AMSN has far too much GUI wastage09:39
andy58imo09:39
ader10chris__: ok, uncomment it in ALSA?09:39
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chris__yes09:40
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Flare183Tortured:> modprobe it09:40
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nabax"<andy58> AMSN has far too much GUI wastage" forget about kopete then09:40
Pirate_Hunterdoes anyone think i cna run psxe emu on m$ xp running on virtualbox with 196ram and 32mb video ram09:40
andy58nabax,  lol..09:40
nabaxif you want no gui wastage... try centericq09:40
nabaxhehe09:40
chris__ader10: try it with "mixer_control                   "PCM""09:40
TorturedFlare183, i dont understand09:41
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Tm_Tnabax: how Kubuntu wastes gui?09:41
andy58i dont want barely any gui09:41
Flare183sudo modprobe nvida09:41
nabaxi have it in running in screen in my work server09:41
Torturedx wont even load right now because its looking for the nvidia module09:41
Flare183I guess09:41
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nabaxcentericq has no gui at all x'D09:41
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Tm_Tnabax: whops, Kopete09:41
Flare183not very sure through; i have a ati graphics card09:41
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nabaxyeah lol09:42
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nabaxnp Tm_T09:42
Tm_Tnabax: in there, theres irssi and Kopete with contactlist and chat open http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png09:42
ader10chris__: sorry, disconnected accidentally09:42
andy58kubuntu =/= ubuntu?09:42
ader10andy58: Kubuntu is not ubuntu.09:42
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andy58oh09:42
nabaxyeah... i think i'm too console addicted tho09:42
Flare183no way ubuntu = gnome kubuntu = kde09:43
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Gek_any way to fix Add/Remove Applications in Gutsy?09:43
ader10chris__: I uncomment the mixer_control "PCM" line under ALSA?09:43
sacredheart /wn osx09:43
Tm_Tader10: andy58: not real differences, Kubuntu is Ubuntu with different set of apps and settings, consider them as different defaults09:43
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andy58ahh ok thanks09:43
andy58I'm going to install Pidgen09:43
ader10Tm_T: Yes.09:43
chris__ader10: yes, that should work09:43
Flare183!gutsy | Gek_09:43
ader10andy58: "pidgin"09:43
ubotuGek_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information09:43
Flare183sorry09:44
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Flare183wrong one09:44
andy58I'd love to get involved with making apps ... what language are they coded in?09:44
Flare183try #ubuntu+109:44
ader10andy58: I'm not a dev, but I'm guessing mostly C and C++09:44
andy58eeerrr "Windows, Fedora Core, and CentOS / RHEL." - which version fo Ubuntu?09:44
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tonyyarussoandy58: whatever you want.09:44
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Flare183talking to you Gek_09:44
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DemortesHey everyone. Quick hardware question, pre ubuntu...09:44
The_Joe_Anyone at all see any problems with this? http://pastebin.ca/737834 I'm trying to sudo make Alsa Drivers09:45
toedCurley_Sue: I really don't get it, I wiped the *entire* home of the old user, still nada09:45
andy58well clearly not windows, right? Unless I was using WINE or the like09:45
tonyyarussoandy58: The kernel is in C, Ubuntu's pet language is python, but you'll find things of all kinds.09:45
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ader10chris__: I hope I'm right that I should uncomment the mixer control line under ALSA09:45
andy58I'd love to make an MSN type app that looked like Mac's MSN program09:45
DemortesA friend of mine is putting together a computer, and his computer will beep as if POSTting, however his Bios displays the processor type, and most times the letters "Mem" as in memory. I've changed the memory configuration, I reset the CMOS....09:45
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chris__ader10: yes09:45
andy58which brings me to another question..09:46
ader10andy58: aMSN09:46
Curley_Suetoed: which user are you using for that (removing the files)?09:46
andy58is MAC linux based?09:46
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toedroot09:46
Phlogi I can't get cryptsetup-luks to work with a partition on my external hd, i always get an error, you can find all the information here: http://pastebin.ca/737851 thanks for any help!09:46
DemortesAlso, the power button just blinks09:46
ader10andy58: MAC is unix based. Linux is unix based.09:46
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toedwell, the old one sudoed to root09:46
Flare183but way different systems09:46
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andy58woo you can skin amsn!09:46
The_Joe_I guess not then..09:46
mneptok"Mac"  ;)09:46
mneptokit's no an acronym09:46
mneptok*not09:46
ader10hmm, how do I restart the mpd service? (not familiar with this)09:47
andy58so could you see mac as a linux dist. that you have to pay for?09:47
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chris__ader10: sudo killall mpd && mpd09:47
andy58or are they totally different?09:47
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mneptokandy58: no09:47
philipThe mac OS is UNIX based?09:47
lamegoader10, sudo /etc/init.d/mdp restart09:47
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tonyyarussoandy58: No.  Mac OS X has a kernel based on BSD/Mach, which is a Unix version.  Linux is modelled after Unix, but does not share code with it.  So, at the lowest level they have design similarities, but are not the same.  The Mac OS X user interface is of course proprietary.09:47
lamegoops mpd09:47
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ader10lamego: ty vm09:47
Flare183!offtopic | philip09:47
ubotuphilip: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!09:47
tonyyarussophilip: ^^, yeah.  Though with a fair bit of customization I'd imagine.09:47
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andy58sorry for the off topic >.<09:48
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Flare183np09:48
nabaxgoddamn there's like 12 conversations at the same time x'D09:48
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ader10erm, how do I disable compiz via console? metacity --replace?09:48
Flare183!language | nabx09:48
ubotunabx: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.09:48
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nabaxerr... sorry i meant goshdamn ;)09:48
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karlstadwhy wont sound play from flashplayer when I'm listening to music in rhythmbox at the same time?09:48
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Curley_Suetoed: make sure u have removed the files from the users home and not from root's... I think your user should be logged off to effetively remove the files since gnome is probably recreating the files based on current settings (which are bad...)09:49
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toedI'm sure09:49
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Flare183karlstad:> rhythbox has complete control over alsa when playing music09:49
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Ling-Linghi there, i have a proble with a wlan-driver...09:50
The_Joe_Please O.O09:50
karlstadFlare183: gash.. no way of changing that either?09:50
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The_Joe_Trying to sudo make alsa Driver and I get this output: http://pastebin.ca/737834 I think something's wrong09:50
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nabaxThe_Joe_ i checked your link but i have no idea what could it be09:50
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nabaxbut yeah, something's wrong x'D09:50
Flare183karlstad:> no not unless you edit the source and then build it your self09:50
Gat0rveancan anyone tell me what "mixer_applet2" is?09:50
The_Joe_nabax: Well I see error, error, error and make does... nothing09:50
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chris__i read somewhere that feisty+ automatically enables aiglx on intel chips, is tha true becasue my xorg looks box standard to me09:51
Flare183chris_:> yeah your right09:51
nabaxThe_Joe_ when i get a compilation error with a program i didn't do myself... i forget about it09:51
The_Joe_Is there some kind of apt-get or .deb for Alsa driver?09:51
Ling-Lingwell can somebody give me some help to get my wlan to work?09:51
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Flare183Ling-Ling:> ask away09:51
Flare183!ask09:51
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:51
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Ling-Ling?09:51
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nabaxapt-get install alsa-base09:52
nabaxThe_Joe_09:52
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chris__Flare183: http://pastebin.com/m515ff40709:52
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nvoorbergw00t it even works in windows09:52
Gat0rveanThe_Joe_ sudo apt_get install alsa-base09:52
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The_Joe_Ah right09:52
The_Joe_Thanks09:52
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Ling-Lingok, i have a Belkin g Plus Mimo wlan usb stick, but i cannot connect to any network... i see the networks, but he dont connects to them....09:53
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daryEnter text here...09:53
Flare183chris_:> ouch alot of output09:53
daryhola09:53
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The_Joe_Ling-Ling: Y'know, I have the same stick and had the same problem09:53
The_Joe_And now it works fine09:53
nvoorberghere Dary?09:53
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Ling-Lingand did you solve the prob?09:53
Flare183it's your processor it can't find out which one you have09:54
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The_Joe_Ling-Ling: Some how, try searching Belkin Router on Ubuntu Forums and follow the first HOWTO link09:54
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daryhola09:54
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Ling-Lingis it the same with belkin routers?09:54
Flare183chris_:> have the same type of machine09:54
chris__Flare183: My processor?09:54
The_Joe_Ling-Ling: Well it was for me09:54
philcis it possible to run php-fcgi from the command line as its own stand alone server? I'm doing some app development and I don't want to set it up with apache just yet09:54
Flare183chris_:> maybe09:54
Flare183chris_:> what are you trying to build?09:55
The_Joe_Ling-Ling: Seeing as we're both using the same hardware, it's worth a try09:55
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Ling-Lingso i'm going to search... you have the same "FAT" usb stick?09:55
chris__Flare183: i'm not, im just trying to get video working with XV lol09:55
alpin1could anyone please help with Tunderbird sound options?09:56
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The_Joe_Ling-Ling: I'm assuming so09:56
Flare183chris_:> XV?09:56
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Ling-Lingwell... i'll tell the status later ;)09:56
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chris__Flare183: ye, video files playing back overexposed in XV, in X11 theyre fine09:56
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andy58TLS is down or something.. can't install Amsn :(09:56
The_Joe_This is weird: Apparently, alsa-base is already installed O.o09:56
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Flare183chris_:> what is XV?09:57
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MTecknologyhow can I erase my Keyring Manager info?09:57
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chris__Flare183: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_video_extension09:58
The_Joe_andy58: I wouldn't use Amsn if I were you...09:58
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travis_ive found gaim is probably the best client to use for msn09:58
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Flare183chris_:> XVideo is so old has been upgraded to XOrg09:59
MTecknologyI keep getting Access Denied to the Keyring Manager. I would like to be able to just delete what's in there and start from scratch.09:59
Flare183no wait a minute09:59
travis_i dont suppose that anyone has found a way of getting psp x2 to work on ubuntu at all? Tried gimp, but cant get used to it, will tinker around with it again though.09:59
The_Joe_I'm off for a bit09:59
travis_bye joe :)09:59
The_Joe_I'll be bothering you all for sound help later ;)10:00
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The_Joe_Tada10:00
Flare183I have no i dea10:00
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MasterShrektravis_, psp x2?10:00
lip_travis_ gaim it's old name now is pidgin10:00
travis_Paintshop pro 1210:00
J03I have an mp3 player that plugs into usb, can i use it to install ubuntu?10:00
travis_ah yes, sorry lip =) so used to callin it gaim10:00
chris__J03: yes10:00
MasterShrekoh, thought u mean playstation portable and i was wondering what that had to do with gimp lol10:00
J03chris__, can you tell me how please, thanks10:00
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travis_lol ahh that explains that one :) sorry, should have explained that better10:00
apuleiussorry im very new here. is there a channel with german language?10:00
chris__J03: if it shows up as a drive in windows, then it should automatically mount (load) up10:01
jayt!de | apuleius10:01
ubotuapuleius: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:01
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daddy1987hi guyz how u all10:01
apuleiusthanks10:01
chris__J03: what player is it?10:01
travis_hi daddy, fine thanks10:01
travis_how are you10:01
J03its a phillips10:01
chris__which one? it might use MTP10:01
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Drk_Guy!ipv610:02
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv410:02
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kazim59I want to do kernel module development,... I want to custom compile a kernel ... can I compile the latest in ubuntu and do development on it?? Or will it break? Other solutions?10:02
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silenteyyy10:04
yipedo Java and flash work on the AMD64 version of ubuntu?10:04
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silentyipe, sorta10:04
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andy58the_joe, what would you use?10:04
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lirishello10:04
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J03andy58, im trying to find that out now, its a phillips but the model number isnt on it10:05
yipeanything special you need to know silent?10:05
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silentyipe, you need compatibility crap.. I'm in class right now cant help sorry10:05
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daddy1987hi10:05
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J03hi daddy10:06
J03I belive its a phillips sa12x10:06
chris__JO3, on windows can u sync it using windows media player?10:06
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J03what do you mean by sync?10:07
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J03as in, when i put it in, can i make WMP open it on start up?10:07
xWin2hello10:07
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travis_j03 could you not use something like berlark adviser. that will give you the serial number (i think) or faronics system profiler. Im not sure whether these work with linux tho10:07
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xWin2i need configure beryl with ubuntu 7.10 and ATI Radeon Mobility M& LY10:08
chris__JO3, well theres 2 main 'ways' mp3 players connect to PCs: MTP and Mass Storage10:08
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andy58which of these pidgin things should i get for my ubuntu? Fedora Core, and CentOS / RHEL10:08
daddy1987y u all wasting ur time here.go out & chill10:08
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chris__andy58: the one in synaptic10:08
andy58!ban daddy1987 :P10:09
MoezHello, how can i share a folder with an other Ubuntu box ? I try "System - Administration - Shared folders" but, when i open the Network folder in the other machine, i only found Windows Network. An idea ?10:09
daddy1987who is andy10:09
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andy58chris__, it isnt in my Synaptic :(10:09
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goldbondcan anyone recommend a good debian or ubuntu vps host?10:10
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daddy1987today i developed a very interesting kernel code10:10
J03hmm, so is their an easy way to tell if its mtp or mass stoarage?10:10
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daddy1987very good for kernel10:10
ronaldxhola10:10
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lip_Moezv use lighthttp10:11
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james296does anyone here know if its possible to play Entropia Universe on Ubuntu using Wine?10:11
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daddy1987any hot girl wanna go private10:11
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yipewhat happened to ubotu?10:12
bruenig!gtfo | yipe10:12
james296good question...10:12
lip_daddy1987 )10:12
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daddy1987hi10:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uhoh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:12
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yipehey Crankymonky!10:13
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daddy1987any hot girl wanna get kinky10:13
Crankymonkyhey yipe, whatsup10:13
dgjones_!ops | daddy198710:13
J03ok, the mp3 player is http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/en/us/consumer/cc/_productid_SA1210_37_US_CONSUMER/Flash-audio-player+SA1210-3710:13
blix_hi folks10:13
hayashi1hi blix10:13
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blix_I want to know, I'm running Windows Vista, how can I run a Ubuntu in a VM?10:13
yipewow, I haven't seen tonyyarusso in ages10:13
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blix_I've downloaded several .iso's10:14
lip_daddy gone10:14
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blix_what next/10:14
andy58I just downloaded emesene install file.. but it's a .tar.gz file - how do i install this?10:14
Tritoniocan someone please explain how can I temporarily disable the input buffer in the console? I want the keystrokes to be directly sent to the programs without having to press enter.10:14
Jeriathanyone knwo why my monitor display wont go above x at 56 Hrz10:14
hayashi1better run vista in ubuntu10:14
blix_lol10:14
Jeriatherr10:14
hayashi1virtual box is nice10:14
blix_well actually10:14
Jeriath1600x120010:14
osmosisanyone here use vpnc-network-manager?  it doesnt seem to support he nodns option.10:14
chapiumwhy is there not a shutdown or restart option when you "quit" ubuntu?10:14
blix_I'd rather multi-boot10:14
andy58I just downloaded emesene install file.. but it's a .tar.gz file - how do i install this?10:14
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travis_blix_ that is a better idea10:14
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Jeriathlets try again....anyone knwo why my monitor wont go above 1024x768 @ 85 Hrz10:15
robertohi10:15
osmosisor DNSUpdate no rather10:15
J03so any ideas on wether that mp3 player MS ir MTP?10:15
hayashi1i like xen more10:15
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Jeriathshould be able to support 1600X1200 @85 easily with the monitor and the card10:15
travis_Jeriath, im having the same thing, cant get above 1024x78810:15
Tritoniochapium, of course there is. how do you quit ubuntu?10:15
travis_*76810:15
Jeriathear10:15
doobiandy58: http://www.emesene.org/trac/wiki/Installation10:15
Jeriathrunning at 56Hrz10:15
travis_could be something to do with driver support?10:15
Jeriath?10:15
Jeriathi dunno10:15
travis_pass hold on will look10:15
Juppandy58, extract the contents of .tar.gz file and then run ./configure make and then install10:15
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yipeandy58 open the folder it's in in a terminal and run the command "sudo dpkg -i [filename] " putting the name of the .tar.gz file in place of where I typed [file name] 10:16
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chapiumTritonio: all i see is switch user, lock, logoff, standby, and hibernate10:16
andy58thanks :)10:16
yipethat's very irritating travis_ and doesn't make anyone want to help you :)10:16
travis_cant get anything over that. its most odd. i can get much larger resolutions elsewhere10:16
ubotuyipe: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.10:16
Estethi'm trying to use the fbi console image viewer, but it's complaining that there's no such thing as /dev/fb0 :S10:16
yipe? lol10:16
Tritoniochapium, O_o that's really strange...10:17
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lip_Jeriath man xorg.conf and search Modeline10:17
travis_lol yipe =) its not really much of an issue. was just commenting on jeriath. and yes i thought that warninng was odd10:17
Jeriathyea....i have windows running on another partition on the same machine and tis at 1600 but will go up to 205410:17
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travis_thats a good plan lip10:17
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lip_aha10:18
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Tritoniocan someone please explain how can I temporarily disable the input buffer in the console? I want the keystrokes to be directly sent to the programs without having to press enter.10:19
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Pirate_Hunter how do I check messages once10:20
Pirate_Hunteroops10:20
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travis_im off folks, have a good day10:20
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J03ok, i think this mp3 player is mass storage, because many other phillips are10:20
Pirate_Hunterubuntu keeps giving me some weird message on boot before the orange loading bar, it pops up very fast that is quite hard to read but its something about my upgraded bios... would the message be saved somewhere?10:21
redicoHi HO Jo, where to find "Restricted Drivers Manager" in KDE ?  thxxxx10:21
J03so how do i install ubuntu iso using my mass storage mp3 player?10:21
J03i just want to use it in place of the install cd10:22
dgjones_!install | J0310:22
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J03wgat i mean is, do i drag the iso onto the usb drive, or unzipp it into the usb drive?10:22
Jeriathok, stupid question foir a n00b...how do i exit the gnome server adn keep a command line up10:22
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seuaniuJeriath, ctrl-alt-F1 will get you to a terminal10:23
Jeriaththanks10:23
seuaniuX (gnome) lives on F7 or F9 to get back10:23
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rediconint-d$ stop gdm   ===> stops gnome10:24
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act1v8After updating Ubuntu R GutsyGibbon and doing a restart CompizFusion stopped working. The XOrg conf file doesn't load AIGLX, DRI and other needed modules... what should I do?10:24
seuaniuthat doesn't quit gnome though, just gets you to a virtual terminal while gnome runs in the background10:24
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Petskulles?10:24
dgjonesJ03, looks like the ubotu isn't working, this link might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation10:25
gerrowhich driver would I use for intel 82810 cgc?10:25
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yokomoI thought gutsy was supposed to come with compiz... I dl'd the release and I don't see it installed10:25
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Petskullhow to write to ntfs drives?10:25
Petskulldamnit! nevermind me...10:25
bruenig!topic | yokomo10:25
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seuaniugutsy has compiz10:25
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Xmancan anybody tell me how to overcome the problem of my monitor10:26
bruenigXman, hit it really hard10:26
act1v8Xman: can you explain10:26
Xmanyes i can10:26
lip_Petskull you need to install ntfs-3g?10:26
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erreceHi10:26
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Xmanactually its not showing any thing but my CPU is working10:27
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redicoKDE :   where to find => Restricted Drivers Manager  ?10:27
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sdre1how do I disable ipv6?10:27
Petskull... thanks, lip_10:27
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act1v8Xman: there is no backlight ?10:27
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Xmani have checked all connections and they r perfect10:27
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erreceMy ISP assign to me 3 DNS addresses, how can I set less timeout between them ?10:28
lip_welcome10:28
act1v8Xman: can you hit Ctrl + Alt + F2 and see if you can see anything10:28
Thorim looking for a program that can record my screen. anyone know of something?10:28
PetskullXman: did the monitor go on screensaver before it went wonky?10:28
Xmanand i havchecked it woth one other monitor too even that is not working10:28
Petskull... and then it's good on reeboot?10:28
Petskullbecause I have a similar problem?10:28
XmanPetskull no10:28
Petskulloh... dunno, then10:28
Jeriathhmm...apparentally i need to completely exit the x-server10:28
Jeriathbut i still need the command line10:28
act1v8how can I reconfigure X, to use the default values used on installation?10:28
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bruenigact1v8, put your backup configuration back of course10:29
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BerzerkerI'm having a problem with my nvidia drivers10:29
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BerzerkerI get an error, Screens found, but no usable configurations10:29
Thoranyone know of a screen recordinf app?10:30
Berzerkerfailed to load nvidia kernel module, and glx module10:30
act1v8bruenig: but I didn't edit the conf file! something else did10:30
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MasterShrekBerzerker, how did you install the driver?10:30
Berzerkerwith the run package10:30
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lip_sdre1 sudo vim /etc/modprobe.d/aliases10:30
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MasterShrekBerzerker, from nvidia's site?10:30
Berzerkeryes10:30
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lip_and change the line: alias net-pf-10 ipv610:30
Jeriathanyone?   how do i shutdown x?10:30
MasterShrektry running it again10:30
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lip_to: alias net-pf-10 off ipv610:30
gerro!direct rendering10:30
Jeriathfrom command line preferably10:30
Berzerkerrun it again?10:31
Berzerkerwhat is the command to stop the x server.10:31
bruenigact1v8, what did? an unsupported third party script?10:31
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redicostop kdm   or stop gdm10:32
redicomust be performed in ../init-d/$ sudo stop kdm10:32
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act1v8bruenig: I have no Idea... just updated my system and restarted10:32
Thoranyone know of a screen recordinf app?10:32
Jeriathum10:32
bruenigact1v8, might want to pay attention to what is going on so that you can tell us what happened10:32
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act1v8Thor: gtkrecorddesktop10:32
Jeriathunknown job gdm10:32
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act1v8or sthn.10:32
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wid13Thor like um Wink ?10:33
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Thoractlv8 thx10:33
MasterShrekBerzerker, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop10:33
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act1v8bruenig: I installed Gusty RC and did an update... then restarted and Compiz stopped working... it's saying that there is no Xgl enabled10:33
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EstethMy other Ctrl-Alt-F* console displays have gone black (as in, monitor goes into power-save) after using zgv (console image viewer) and restarting X. How would i bring them back?10:33
bruenigact1v8, gutsy is in beta and isn't supported, here try /topic10:33
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Jeriaththanks MasterShrek10:34
act1v8#ubuntu+110:34
act1v8oops10:34
MasterShrekJeriath, for what?10:34
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Jeriathhelping me stop gnome10:34
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Jeriath:D10:34
MasterShrek=)10:35
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renatofilhohey guys, after update my ubuntu gutsy to kernel 2.6.22.14 my wireless didn't  work, in dmesg I got a problem with ipw2100-1.3.fw10:35
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Ling-Lingi'm nearly ready with my usb-stick, but i have a problem editing the rtmp_main.c10:36
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renatofilhoI didn't find this file in any place10:36
magnetrondoes virtualbox give the VM access to the physical printer port?10:36
gerrohow would I start a complete reprobing of hardware on my machine?10:36
magnetrongerro: what problem are you trying to solve?10:36
gerroI got a new ethernet card and stick of memory10:36
gerrohow do i get the system to detect them10:36
MasterShrekgerro, it should pick those things up on a reboot10:36
node357looks like it's working just fine lol10:36
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riotkittieact1v8: what gfx card do you have?10:36
gerrowell it doesn't...10:37
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magnetrongerro: just connect them with the computer turned off, and reboot10:37
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gerroeth0 doesn't come up and it says only 64mb memory10:37
blue42the stick of memory should be automatic10:37
node357:(10:37
blue42the network card... iffy10:37
gerroI did... what you think I'd plug them in while its on lol10:37
act1v8riotkittie: it's using the OSS driver and it worked... ATI Mobility Radeon X70010:37
magnetrondoes virtualbox or any other virtualizer give the VM access to the physical printer port?10:37
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Thorwhere can i get gtkrecorddesktop10:38
riotkittieact1v8: and this was the first update since the install of the RC?10:38
bruenigact1v8, wrong channel10:38
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act1v8riotkittie: yes :)10:38
gerroMasterShrek: would the ethernet interface be working in recovery mode?10:38
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LjLmagnetron, vmware does, i bet the others can too, except perhaps the open source version of virtualbox might not, since it has some limitations with regard to connections10:38
act1v8bruenig: I joined #ubuntu+1 but I get asked here :)10:38
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MasterShrekgerro, maybe, but its doubtful, you may need to just manually load the module, add it to /etc/modules10:39
bruenigact1v8, don't flood the stable channel with unstable questions10:39
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ismaelhello10:39
redicosudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop10:39
redicosudo /etc/init.d/gdm start10:39
Juppmagnetron, is your printer usb?10:39
act1v8bruenig: did I ask something since you told me to!?10:39
riotkittieoops. i thought i was in +110:40
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act1v8not to*10:40
LjLredico: why not just sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart?10:40
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ismaeli need help with ntfs-3g10:40
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magnetronJupp: it's not for a printer10:40
gerroMasterShrek: when I do ifup and ifdown it states IRQ handler type mismatch for IRQ 0 and pretends like the network is down10:40
MasterShrekismael, what about it?10:40
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magnetronLjL: ty10:41
MasterShrekgerro, ifconfig -a    show u anything?10:41
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ismaeli've lost 5 GB!!10:41
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gerroMasterShrek: yes that does list eth0 but it has no address10:41
Bl0w_M0nkwherer?10:41
Juppmagnetron, I got it, I re-read your question :)10:41
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MasterShrekgerro, sudo dhclient3 eth010:42
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ismaeli've delete 5 GB from windows partition (sorry for my english)10:42
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gerroMasterShrek: does the same thing it also lists siocsifflags device or resource busy and current handler timer as well as send_packet: network is down10:43
MasterShrekismael, and what would you like me to do about it? if u deleted it, thats too bad10:43
redicowhere to find "Restricted Drivers Manager"....10:43
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whyking_there is a debian package I want to use.. what do I have to do to install it? any comon pitfalls?10:43
MasterShreksystem > admin10:43
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dug_!nvidia10:43
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ismaeli want delete this data10:43
MasterShreksudo dpkg -i package.deb10:43
wid13brb reboot10:43
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:43
Eedgegrr, can't seem to find a driver from my wifi card that actually works with Ndiswrapper -- keeping getting "invalid driver!"10:43
dug_how can you restore your display settings to what they were after you use nvidia-settings?  It messed up my display, but restoring my backup copy of xorg.conf didn't fix it10:43
Estethwhat is the name for the F1-6 terminals?10:43
MasterShrekgerro, i dont know for sure10:44
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Juppismael, are you trying to get your data back?10:44
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ismaelthe problem is when i look the free space10:44
bruenigdug_, just restore xorg.conf10:44
ismaelnonono10:44
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MasterShrekEsteth, i gues you could call them consoles10:44
RobotBananaA bit off topic: Anyone happen to know how much CPU power and bandwidth a Ventrilo Linux server sucks up?10:44
ismaeli mean10:44
Terriffubuntu/linux newb question: I dowloaded and installed the Ubuntu Server ISO and expected to have access to Apache, MySQL, and PHP by default. This doesn't seem to be the case. I thought a LAMP server meant that these apps would be installed and enabled by default. Am I mistaken?10:44
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gerroMasterShrek: I guess its some cpu crap regarding the integrated video card :/10:44
dug_how can you restore your display settings to what they were after you use nvidia-settings?  It messed up my display, but restoring my backup copy of xorg.conf didn't fix it10:44
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ismaeli've lost 5GB in the partition10:44
bruenig!repeat | dug10:44
ubotudug: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience10:44
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wid13much better10:45
Matirdoes anyone know if the open-source ati driver supports T&L?10:45
gnomefreakdwxreaper: you did it in nvidia-settings best revert nvidia-settings10:45
EstethMasterShrek: Ah, i was hoping for something specific, so i could google a problem specific to them. Thanks anyways, looks like i'll put up with it10:45
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gnomefreakdug_: that was for you10:45
bruenigall nvidia-settings does is edit xorg.conf so if you have a legitimate backup, that is all you need to do10:45
MasterShrekEsteth, whats the problem?10:45
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gnomefreaksorry tab completion sucks10:45
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ismaelbefore to delete 5GB my free space was 2,4 GB, after delete it my free space is 2,4 GB!!10:46
dug_bruenig: you didn't read my question, i said i already did that.  i don't want any help from you, thanks10:46
gnomefreakbruenig: it doesnt hold its own settings?10:46
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brueniggnomefreak, not from what I have seen, it is closed source, so can't be sure, but I have reverted before10:46
EstethMasterShrek: After starting a console based image viewer, then closing it or restarting X, those terminals become blank (monitor goes into power-save mode)10:46
dug_google bruenig's name and you'll see why10:46
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gnomefreakdug_: find the nvidia-settings conf see if it made changes outside or xorg.conf10:46
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Ling-Lingi down know, how i shall edit this file, down know what to change... description iss here: http://users.informatik.uni-halle.de/~abdxv/10:46
MasterShrekEsteth, why would you want to use a console based image viewer?10:46
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ismaelMasterShrek: ?10:47
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gnomefreakdamn he left already10:47
Juppismael, I sent you a private message (hablas espaol?)10:47
EstethMasterShrek: In case i ever end up without X for whatever reason10:47
gnomefreakeh wth10:47
ismaelsi claro10:47
gerroMasterShrek: because ascii art is sexy with the framebufferage :P10:47
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Rich4W:ET sound went out for me. Any quick fix for it?10:48
Myboysomebody could help me with some troubles10:48
Myboy??10:48
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Juppismael, look at your left and you will see my name (mira a tu izquierda y busca mi nombre)10:48
jformani am curious if anyone could tell me if a matrox video card is supported on a ubuntu sparc install?10:48
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gerrojforman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto check the bottom10:48
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ismaeldo you read me Jupp?10:49
jformangerro: thanks10:49
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Rich4W:ET sound went out. Anybody got a quick fix?10:49
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ticohello10:49
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ticohello everybody!!10:49
Ling-Linghi10:49
MasterShrekJupp, ismael both of your nicks need to be regged in order to pm eachother10:49
MyboyHow compile programs in ubuntu .. I try to install this Xchat but cannot have sucess , then i use apt-get10:49
Jupplol10:49
Myboycan somebody help /10:50
MasterShrekMyboy, sudo apt-get install xchat10:50
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Myboy?10:50
Myboyyeah .. i've already done it10:50
ismaeland how i can regged my nick?10:50
pommerhow i play my dvds on ubuntu?10:50
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Myboyi need to know how to compile them10:50
ticowho knows if use background as wallpaper can turn slowly my computer?10:50
YokoZa1I just found that the page at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory  is about a year out of date10:50
MasterShrekismael, /msg nickserv register <password> <email>10:50
riotkittieMasterShrek: you need the build-essential pkg to compile but xchat's in the repos10:50
Myboylike ./configure10:50
Myboymake10:50
Myboymake install10:50
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riotkittieerrrrr Myboy not MasterShrek10:50
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MasterShrek=P10:50
Pirate_Hunterpommer: you'll need to install restrticted drivers10:50
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Rich4"/msg nickserv register pass"10:51
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riotkittiei lose at nick completion D:10:51
Rich4thats how you reg nicks on irc10:51
node357I did all this stuff to get DVDs and things working.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41362610:51
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pommerhow?10:51
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ismaelpuff10:51
The_Joe_I''mmmm baaaack10:51
Myboyapt-get install build-essential ??10:51
node357:)10:51
Myboylike this ??10:51
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MasterShrekMyboy, yes, use sudo10:51
Rich4Anyone can help fix W:ET sound problem?10:51
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ismaelJupp2: would you main join to ubuntu-es?10:52
The_Joe_Right, time to (try) and get sound working10:52
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Myboybut .. using auto-apt ?10:52
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Ling-Lingcan anybode spend maybe 2 minutes for my problem?10:52
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Myboyi tried to use sudo auto-apt run ./configure10:52
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Moniker42!ask | Ling-Ling10:52
ubotuLing-Ling: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:52
Myboybut i receive errors10:52
ticois it possible that my wallpaper turn slowly my ubuntu system?***10:52
Ling-Lingnice10:52
MidnighTokersystem power failiure, now reads "Starting Up... CRC Error -System Halted"10:52
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Jupp2ismael, done10:52
ismaelok10:52
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Ling-Lingi have to edit a file, but dont know what to erase and what not... find description i the order: http://users.informatik.uni-halle.de/~abdxv/10:53
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Myboychecking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.3... no10:53
Myboy*** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...10:53
Myboy*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the10:53
Myboy*** exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.10:53
Myboyconfigure: error: "Cannot find glib"10:53
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wid13ouch10:53
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The_Joe_Anyone know anything about Alsa drivers?10:53
crdlbMyboy, sudo apt-get build-dep xchat10:54
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Myboyyeah ..10:54
LiMaOwhat's a good PIM software (besides evolution) that looks nice, has schedules, calendar, tasks, contacts and such stuff? (email is not priority)10:54
crdlbthat will install everything needed to compile xchat from source10:54
node357I like kdepim10:54
crdlbMyboy, it won't install xchat10:54
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node357I'm not sure how to install kdepim on Ubuntu though :|10:54
Myboybut i need to know how to install compile it ..10:54
pommercmon... somebody help me play my new dvd on ubuntu please.. rendering my dvd drive obsolete here10:54
Myboyadd to my knowledge10:54
Myboy=D10:55
crdlbMyboy, do sudo apt-get build-dep xchat10:55
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crdlbthen it will compile10:55
node357pommer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41362610:55
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LiMaOnode357: i'll check it out.. thank you for the suggestion =)10:55
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crdlbthat will install the "build dependencies"10:55
node357you're welcome!10:55
MyboyYEAH ..10:55
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The_Joe_Apparently alsa-base is installed but I still get no sound10:55
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Myboybut if there's no package in the repositories ..10:56
Myboylike a new one10:56
node357Myboy maybe there's xchat-gnome10:56
wid13dang channel list wont come up says you guys overloaded it10:56
Myboyand i want to install it10:56
node357:(10:56
Myboyfrom sources10:56
Myboyhow can i do it ?10:56
Myboytar -zxvf10:56
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Myboy./configure10:56
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Myboymake10:56
Myboymake install10:56
crdlb!enter10:56
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:56
MasterShrekMyboy, sudo apt-get install build-essential     that will give you the compilers that you need, then you can use those otehr commands10:56
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node357you need other things for xchat I think, like gtk2 devel10:57
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crdlb...which is what sudo apt-get build-dep is for10:57
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node357oh neat10:57
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crdlbMyboy, you can just build-dep a similar package to get most of the dependencies if it's not in the repos10:58
The_Joe_Oooooh Doc Martin is hilarious10:58
crdlbthen manually install any packages that you're missing10:58
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MyboyMann .. I do not got the point ,  I need to know how compile programs .. no only about the xchat , i've used xchat to test it , and got no sucess . Then i use apt-get install xchat and it works ..10:58
Eedgewow, apparently SafeCom does provide linux "drivers" for my Wireless card, in the form of a linux.rar file with an driverloader installer :S10:58
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Myboyusing .configure , make e make install ..10:59
MasterShrekMyboy, if you would pay attention to what people are telling you, you would understand10:59
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The_Joe_Anyone how to make alsa drivers... work?10:59
The_Joe_I'm on RealTek HD10:59
node357sorry Joe, they always just kinda worked for me10:59
node357and I have a realtek ac97 chip10:59
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MasterShrekThe_Joe_, do you have any idea what module they would use?10:59
The_Joe_Weird, I have no sound whatsoever10:59
node357:(10:59
The_Joe_MasterShrek: Search me10:59
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MyboyMasterShrek, The problem is not about xchat . I need to know how compile and install program from sources .11:00
The_Joe_brb Hang on11:00
node357Myboy, someone just told you to apt-get install build-essential11:00
The_Joe_Need to move -.-11:00
gnomefreak!compile | Myboy11:00
ubotuMyboy: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:00
node357those are the compilers11:00
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Myboyfrom tar.gz , tar.bz211:00
MasterShrekMyboy, you already know, ./configure   make   make install11:00
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comicinkerdoes anybody know how I do acitvaty scim for anki? anki is a qt application, that could be the problem.11:00
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MyboyI know how to use apt quite good . But I never got sucess compiling software11:02
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juan_is it very rare to not mount /boot on startup?11:02
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exileque nota11:02
MasterShrekMyboy, you just need to make sure you have the dependencies for whatever you are compiling, generally you need the -dev packages for each dependency11:02
crdlbMyboy, but you use apt-get to get the build dependencies11:02
comicinkerdoes anyone know how I activate scim for qt applications?11:02
exileis any body here that speak spanish11:02
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MasterShrekjuan_, do you have a /boot partition?11:02
MasterShrek!es11:03
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:03
The_Joe_I'm back11:03
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exileok11:03
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ianm_quick question:  I'm on feisty.  if I download a gutsy CD now, can I a) try it as a live CD to see how the hardware support is, b) upgrade my system from the CD, and c) download only the changes between now and the official release (and not another 700+ MBs)?11:03
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gerroanyone know where I can get a big list of video cards and what drivers to use?11:03
The_Joe_Anyone got a clue about my alsa problem?11:03
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Myboyi tried to test using xchat .. and then got this error11:03
gerroI got this funky intel one and need something to run it, it doesn't work right with vesa11:03
The_Joe_ianm_: As far as I'm aware you can't update from CD11:03
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MasterShrekyes you can11:03
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Myboychecking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.3... no11:04
Myboy*** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...11:04
Myboy*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the11:04
Myboy*** exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.11:04
Myboyconfigure: error: "Cannot find glib"11:04
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The_Joe_Well I'm wrong11:04
crdlbianm_, you need the alternate cd to upgrade11:04
Berzerkerdo I run the nvidia installer under root@ or do I just sudo it?11:04
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crdlbso you can't use the livecd to do that11:04
The_Joe_I need King Kong11:04
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juan_MasterShrek: yes but i dont mount it on boot so in case of something wierd happening my grub and kernels are safe11:04
gerroMyboy: use pastebin and apt-get11:04
MasterShrekBerzerker, either way11:04
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Myboywhat's pastebin ?11:04
Pici!paste | Myboy11:04
crdlbMyboy, sudo apt-get build-dep xchat11:04
ubotuMyboy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:04
Dialntonei need help trying to extract my rar file :(11:04
MasterShrekjuan_, well how would you not mount it on boot? you need your kernels to boot11:04
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Dialntoneits not letting me do it11:04
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MasterShrekDialntone, sudo apt-get install unrar11:05
The_Joe_As soon as I get Alsa working I can watch it on here11:05
Myboyhummm .. excuse ..11:05
gerroMasterShrek: you use /etc/fstab to handle mounting on boot11:05
quittthello11:05
Myboybut cannot install any program from sources11:05
The_Joe_Anyone at all know how to make Alsa "work"11:05
juan_MasterShrek: not once the kernel loads its just there everything else is on your root11:05
quitttI'm with a serious problems with caracters in Terminal?11:05
gerroMasterShrek: and grub mounts the kernel11:05
Dialntonethat wasn't nice MasterShrek11:05
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Dialntonehehe hope it works11:05
MasterShrekDialntone, it will11:05
quitttmy Ubuntu is in Portuguese and there are some caracters like , vo, s, Msicas, etc. which need the accent11:06
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quitttbut instead of the accent, I've got some bizarre things like M|sicas, vaeo,s., etc11:06
DialntoneMaster Shrek what if i was some sort of masive distributor of illegal piracy and you helped me some way distribute to thousands of people nation wide by extracting one program "?11:06
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MasterShrekmore power to you Dialntone11:07
ubuntuManCan anyone tell me how to reinstall grub?11:07
node357let's not get too philosophical now lol11:07
ianm_ooh illegal piracy, that's double bad11:07
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juan_legal piracy is cool tho yar11:07
alessandro_welcome11:07
gnomefreakDialntone: please change topic11:07
alessandro_hi11:07
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ianm_crdlb: ok, so I would need to download the live CD to test things out, and then do a normal upgrade via update-manager ?11:07
node357ubuntuMan, find out which is your boot drive... if it's hda use grub-install hda11:07
alessandro_can some one help me11:07
Dialntone:( it doesn't work , says enter the password for the archive file11:07
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MasterShrek!ask | alessandro_11:07
HourPastMidnightAny ideas what would cause sendmail (via sh -c /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i) to hang for 40-90 seconds every time it's used?11:07
ubotualessandro_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:07
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ephracisI just installed libpanelappletmm-dev via apt and there are supposed to come with some examples. But where? :S11:08
The_Joe_This is strange11:08
MasterShrekDialntone, enter your password11:08
The_Joe_Alsa-base is installed11:08
alessandro_can someone hack msn password11:08
The_Joe_And I have no sound11:08
The_Joe_At all11:08
node357sendmail? sounds like DNS resolution problems11:08
Dialntoneit always prompts me for a password MasterShrek  --- i use my root passwd still doesn't work11:08
ubuntuMannode357 I tried find /boot/grub/stage1 and it returned with nothing11:08
ephracisIs there some standard place where examples are installed? locate gives me nothing.11:08
node357:(11:08
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MasterShrekThe_Joe_, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base    i dont know if it will work but its worth a shot11:08
juan_does anybody else not mount /boot on startup? im asking so i know if its worth it to suggest fixes to ubuntu for such situations or i should just get it to work for me?11:08
ianm_The_Joe_: check volumes?  muted?11:08
MasterShrekDialntone, with any rar file?11:08
Dialntoneyah11:09
The_Joe_ianm_: I was just about to caps lock that..11:09
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The_Joe_I AM NOT MUTED11:09
The_Joe_:P11:09
alessandro_does someone hack msn password?11:09
ompaul!offtopic | alessandro_,11:09
ubotualessandro_,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!11:09
Dialntonethere' sets of .r01 files things like that, but im always getting prompt's11:09
ianm_The_Joe_: speakers turned on? ;P11:09
gnomefreakompaul: dont do that11:09
alessandro_whats?11:09
MasterShrekalessandro_, not the place for that kind of talk11:09
gnomefreakompaul: we will have to remove alessandro_ there for that as well11:09
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ompaulahh11:09
PiciDialntone: the restricted unrar package supports multi-volume archives.11:09
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ubuntuMannode357 how do I find out my boot drive?11:10
The_Joe_MasterShrek: dpkg seemed to do nothing11:10
alessandro_i dont understad?11:10
gnomefreakalessandro_: find somewhere else to talk about hacking passwords11:10
The_Joe_ianm_: I'm sure my sound is fine except the lack of drivers and crap11:10
riotkittiehacking passwords is naughty. :|11:10
ompaulalessandro_, it is not a subject for #ubuntu channels11:10
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ianm_what technology does Gutsy use for "Encrypted hard disks" feature?11:10
Ling-Lingi hate this shit... now...11:10
alessandro_sorry riotkittie can yuo help me11:10
gnomefreakianm_: jion #ubuntu+111:10
gnomefreakjoin even11:10
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ianm_gnomefreak: k thanks11:11
gnomefreakLing-Ling: please watch your language11:11
The_Joe_Still no sound11:11
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DialntoneMasterShrek,  unrar -e linux-xp-desktop-2006-SR2-english.part36.rar11:11
MasterShrekThe_Joe_, pastebin the output of lspci -vv11:11
The_Joe_Ok hold on11:11
Dialntonethats' not a valid command line :( -- is there something im missing im going to try and do it in root11:11
The_Joe_King kong is getting to a good bit :D11:12
MasterShrekDialntone, dont do part36, do part 111:12
The_Joe_1933 Colourised ^^11:12
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Eedgewheres the linux source build directory in ubuntu>?11:12
Dialntonestill doesn't work11:12
ismaelthanks a lot Jupp211:13
MasterShrekEedge, you need to install the source package, and it should be in /usr/src11:13
ompaulEedge, cd /usr/src and have a poke in there - if you have downloaded it11:13
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Eedgecheers :)11:13
Dialntonethe usage on this is crazy11:13
The_Joe_MasterShrek: http://pastebin.ca/73792811:13
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MasterShrekDialntone, right click the file in your gui and try to extract it11:13
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Berzerkerre-running the run package didn't work11:14
Berzerkerstill get, unable to load nvidia kernel module11:14
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DialntoneMasterShrek, prompts for password11:14
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Dialntonei know its not password protected its a linux distro11:14
The_Joe_Gah, stroked the off switch on King Kong >.<11:15
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Ling-Lingyeah,sorry11:15
MasterShrekThe_Joe_, did u say u thought it was a realtek card? i dont think it is11:15
robertohi11:15
quittthello?11:15
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inc595anyone know how to fix this error when trying to use compiz-fusion A handler is already registered for the path starting with path[0]  = "org"11:15
The_Joe_MasterShrek: I'm pretty sure it is, Acer Aspire 3050 laptop will all original hardware11:15
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robertocan someone help me i traaying to make my own ir channel and i got no idea  how to so it11:15
MasterShrekThe_Joe_, #11:16
MasterShrek00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)11:16
The_Joe_I'm scared to open it up ^^11:16
gerroAre there any earlier intel drivers besides i810? or any for that matter?11:16
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The_Joe_How weird11:16
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The_Joe_Well is there some sort of solutionie thingie?11:16
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The_Joe_Perhaps it's my current driver11:16
tusseyhow do you find the number of files in a folder? ls -1 | count11:16
tusseyor something11:16
diplotussey : ls -l | wc -l11:17
tusseyty11:17
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The_Joe_YES!!! Stop frame animation Kong!!11:17
dwxreaperi get this error on ubuntu, trying to compile snort software called barnyard11:17
dwxreaperchecking for mysql_real_connect in -lmysqlclient... no11:17
dwxreaper**********************************************11:17
dwxreaper  ERROR: unable to find mysqlclient library11:17
dwxreaper  checked in the following places11:17
dwxreaper**********************************************11:17
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ikoniawhy why why11:17
Pici!ot | The_Joe_11:17
ubotuThe_Joe_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!11:18
The_Joe_Sorry ^^11:18
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The_Joe_I'll keep it to a minimum11:18
eMbolaRoanyone uses chatzilla?11:18
AccessXhellloooo11:18
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diplodwxreaper : Missing mysql client files11:18
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sahl!find11:18
PiciThe_Joe_: you can blabber on in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want.11:18
ompauldwxreaper, please use a pastebin for more than two lines11:18
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diplolibmysql.so i think ?11:18
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Berzerkerre-running the run package didn't work11:18
The_Joe_Nono I'm here for support really, just a random outburst11:18
Berzerkerstill get the same error.11:18
PiciThe_Joe_: okay :)11:19
pthomasHi, just wondering, if I have root disabled, what should my account be in which group? Being as I would be the only one accessing this maching.11:19
diplolook for libmysql in synaptic11:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:19
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Dialntone:(11:19
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PiciDialntone: Which unrar package did you install?11:19
Dialntoneunrar11:19
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bluekbCan someone give me a pointer/link to some documentation on setting up remote X sessions?   I want my computer to allow other machines to start up X on it.11:19
Dialntoneand some other one i think11:19
node357pthomas, I think you're in all the groups you need to be in to operate the machine11:20
theAtomhow can I stop a user accessing my external hard drive?11:20
Dialntonei think rar11:20
MasterShrekDialntone, did u try a different rar file? from somewhere else?11:20
node357just use sudo for anything that requires root privelegs11:20
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The_Joe_Right so should I be looking for ATI Sound drivers and seeing if that helps?11:20
pthomasnode357: Alright, I wasn't sure if that was correct or not.11:20
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node357yeah it should work fine11:20
MasterShrekThe_Joe_, i think so, ati hda11:20
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Dialntoneyah11:21
The_Joe_MasterShrek: Okie doke, shouldn't be too hard11:21
node357when in doubt, buy a sound blaster live11:21
node357lol11:21
pthomasnode357: alright thanks.11:21
node357welcome!11:21
theAtomMasterShrek, I fixed the depencedy probkems from OO11:21
PiciDialntone: Make sure that you have unrar installed, not unrar-free.11:21
theAtomMasterShrek, remember me yeterday?11:21
bluekbtheAtom, figure out whichever utility is mounting it and tell it to mount it with different permissions?  That's a rather abstract answer, but I don't know the specifics.11:21
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PiciDialntone: The free has to do with whether its open source or not, not cost.11:21
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theAtombluekb, your not helping11:21
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bluekbtheAtom, ok.11:22
WinballSomeone tried Bbuntu with X38 ?11:22
WinballUbuntu11:22
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theAtomwhats Bbuntu?11:22
Dialntonepici, MasterShrek  its' cool i think i know the problem11:22
eMbolaRoanyone uses chatzilla?11:22
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Dialntonethanks for helping me out :D11:22
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muzycaleshi there11:22
Pici!anyone | eMbolaRo11:22
ubotueMbolaRo: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?11:22
BerzerkerPici, do you think you can help me?11:22
Dialntonewasn't a complete rar archieve hehe im an idiot11:22
theAtom!chatzilla11:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chatzilla - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:23
Dialntonemissing 7 8 package files11:23
MasterShrektheAtom, yea, what was the problem?11:23
PiciBerzerker: I've not very good with graphics cards issues. Sorry11:23
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theAtomMasterShrek, yiyu WONT believe the solution11:23
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theAtomMasterShrek, All I did was put my clock date forward 1 day and then did apt-get upgrade, and voila!11:23
MasterShrek...11:24
MasterShrekwhy on earth would you do something like that?11:24
theAtomMasterShrek, then I changed date back11:24
node357sounds crazy11:24
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theAtomMasterShrek, becayse it didnt work unless I put date forward 1 day11:24
node357messing with the time11:24
Dialntone!par211:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about par2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:24
theAtomnode357, are you  even listening? LOL11:24
node357I think I am11:25
node357lol11:25
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Dialntone!info quickpar11:25
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ubotuPackage quickpar does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas11:25
Dialntone!quickpar11:25
Dialntone!quickpar211:25
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about quickpar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:25
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about quickpar2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:25
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The_Joe_Y'know, I can find no ATI sound drivers at all11:25
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theAtomMasterShrek, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-532154.html11:26
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dirtyhandim trying to setup a new ubuntu web server.  There are like 4 different people that need root access, should I jsut set a common pw for the root user, or create a new user for all11:26
theAtomnode357, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-532154.html   <-- Read this and LEARN :)11:26
Pici!info pypar2 | Dialntone11:26
ubotudialntone: pypar2: graphical frontend for the par2 utility. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1-1 (feisty), package size 42 kB, installed size 336 kB11:26
Berzerkerdoes gutsy run stable?11:26
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Dialntonethanks :)11:26
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AccessX.. trying to get newest 7.04 installed on my P5B board with a jmircon RAID, it sees two drives (live cd) instead of one..11:27
blahblahxhi i installed a barebones ubuntu (no gui) and then installed gnome core. how do i make it so it boots into gnome (not gdm)11:27
theAtomnode357, did u read that webpage? :)11:27
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Dialntonebritney spears - gimme more   (danger) (danger).. dang...  lol11:27
theAtomMasterShrek, did u read that webpage?11:27
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VletBerzerker: Yes, but it hasn't been released for a reason ... it's not stable enough.11:27
MasterShrekyea i took a look at it theAtom11:27
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The_Joe_Nope no drivers for what I supposedly need11:27
blahblahxanyone?11:28
Berzerkerok11:28
WinballBerzerker No, not really11:28
theAtomMasterShrek, interesting eh?11:28
MasterShrekquite11:28
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blahblahxhi i installed a barebones ubuntu (no gui) and then installed gnome core. how do i make it so it boots into gnome (not gdm)?11:28
Berzerkerthen can someone help me with my graphics issue?11:28
blahblahx?11:28
Vletblahblahx: startx?11:28
MasterShrekThe_Joe_, are you on feisty or gutsy?11:28
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theAtomMasterShrek, worked on 7.10 too11:28
MasterShrekcool11:28
Vletblahblahx: be patient11:28
The_Joe_MasterShrek: Feisty11:28
blahblahxright but i want to have it do that on boot11:28
redicopls pls help :)  where to find "Restricted Drivers Manager" ??? in KDE ?11:28
The_Joe_Not a person for Release Candidates11:28
blahblahxwithout user intervention11:28
redicohow to start "Restricted Drivers Manager" via bash?11:28
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MasterShrekblahblahx, put this in your /etc/rc.local    su - <user> -c startx11:28
Vletblahblahx: no gdm, and no user intervention? nope11:29
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Piciblahblahx: I believe theres a setting in gnome's system>administration>login for autologin.11:29
Vletblahblahx: If ther's no gdm, then you'll need to log in via a terminal11:29
The_Joe_Especially OS's11:29
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AngryElfhow can I check the integrity of a hard drive (not the filesystem)?11:29
redico"Restricted Drivers Manager" WHERE ?11:29
gerroMasterShrek: I hate this intel video card, its taking up 64mb memory. I only got 128 or 126 mb of ram :/11:29
blahblahxno i have gdm but i want o oenable autologin11:29
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theAtomMasterShrek, do you UNDERATAND now why I put clock forward 1 day? :)11:29
MasterShrekThe_Joe_, well i can bet that when gutsy comes out youll have alot less hardware issues11:29
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Vletblahblahx: ahh yeah, then what Pici said11:30
theAtomMasterShrek, but I oput it back to normal after the update11:30
The_Joe_MasterShrek: Let's hope so11:30
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The_Joe_MasterShrek: But it's not out yet ;)11:30
blahblahxcool11:30
MasterShrekthats so weird theAtom11:30
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Piciblahblahx: I'm not sure thats the correct tname, but its in there somewhere.11:30
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MasterShrekThe_Joe_, thursday :)11:30
AccessXGutsy suppose to work better with JMicron?11:30
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The_Joe_MasterShrek: Yes I know, I even have a countdown on my own website11:30
redico;((( "Restricted Drivers Manager" ??? i dont find this menu11:30
MasterShrekheh11:30
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gerroMasterShrek: that makes pretty good sense incase the ubuntu repositories get all jacked up and he has auto update on11:31
redicoshould be under system => administration ... but KDE ???11:31
theAtomMasterShrek, well as u can see, the webpage revelas others have same issue.11:31
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gerroMasterShrek: oh hey I found out something interesting about the ethernet. It says on lshw *-network DISABLED :(11:32
monkeyspasmHI. Anyone know how to switch the apostrophe deadkey off in firefox? I can type apostrophes, I just get accented letters instead!11:32
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theAtomnode357, did u read that webpage?11:32
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gerromonkeyspasm: sounds like a keyboard issue with xorg11:32
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MasterShrekgerro, is the driver blacklisted maybe?11:33
MasterShrek!blacklist11:33
ubotuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 11:33
monkeyspasmgerro: What xorg?11:33
MasterShrek!xorg11:33
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:33
The_Joe_Well I guess that means all there is to do is get Desktop Effects working - Or at least check if it works11:33
gerroMasterShrek: I hope not.. don't know11:33
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_Lucretia_are there gcc/gnat 4.2.x packages for feisty anywhere? ta11:33
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The_Joe_Would it be best to have !xorg tell you to use ctrl+alt+backspace instead?11:34
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MongooseWAhow can you capture an image with a webcam in ubuntu?11:34
gerroMasterShrek: full story is I had these 2 old computers so I swapped around the parts so I could use the high cpu one. Everything was working on other one fine so no clue why it wouldn't now11:34
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jtdcan someone help me troubleshoot an xorg problem?  my desktop is bigger than my screen resolution and when I try to get it to change my resolution using the System -> Preferences menu item, it pretends it changed the resolution but nothing actually happens.  my xorg.conf is pastebinned here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/948/11:34
tantrisHi! I just updated the latest packages for gutsy (e.g. gnome 2.20) and now nautilus segfaults in an endless loop, anything I could do?11:34
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monkeyspasmoh, Xorg=X. I see. Other apps are fine since I chaned my keymap- it just firefox.11:34
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unagii installed ntfs-3g but i still cant write to my ntfs volume11:35
MasterShrekunagi, did you mount it with ntfs-3g as the driver instead of just ntfs11:35
Spudgun89Hey guys, this may be a pretty n00b question, but it's help after all ^^ - I've got Beryl/Emerald theme manager all going the way I want to, but I'm not sure how you customise the look of the top/bottom panels of Ubuntu; e.g. the part with 'Applications Places System' etc.. How would I go about customising that?11:35
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Spudgun89(as in it's physical apperance, I'd like to have the Aero style theme there as thats what my windows are using)11:35
unagierm.....in the past i just installed ntfs-3g and it would mount the drive for me11:36
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jtdSpudgun89: I'm actually not sure that's customizable.  have you seen it customized before?11:36
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MasterShrekunagi, is the mount entry in /etc/fstab?11:36
AngryElfwhen I create an mdadm array where does the configuration get saved?11:36
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AngryElfmdadm --create /dev/md0 etc etc...11:36
jtdSpudgun89: in Ubuntu, that is11:36
Spudgun89Yeah, I'm pretty sure I found it either on Wiki or somewhere.. 2 secs11:36
Spudgun89Yeah11:36
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monkeyspasmIS there a help channel like this one for firefox?11:36
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MasterShrekjtd, its gnome, doesnt matter what distro its in, gnome is gnome11:37
The_Joe_Hey is Radeon Xpress 1100 good enough for Desktop Effects/Beryl?11:37
Spudgun89Ahh here we go; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GnomeVista.png11:37
MasterShrekThe_Joe_, i think so, but ati and linux dont get along very well11:37
muzycaleshi there I have a question, how can I install the full function of my Logitech MX500 (I need to asign to some bottons some keys like alt and shift) I was looking to logitech.com but they don't have any driver for linux.11:37
MasterShrekwell they do, but it takes a bit to get set up correctly11:37
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MongooseWAhow can you capture an image with a webcam in ubuntu?11:37
eren__eReN_11:38
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redicoUbuntu 7.04 ships with a utility to automate configuration of fglrx. Open it at "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager".11:38
redico==========> i dont find this in KDE... pls help me11:38
MasterShrekMongooseWA, take a screenshot and crop it11:38
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_Lucretia_are there gcc/gnat 4.2.x packages for feisty anywhere? ta11:38
The_Joe_Really? I always heard good things11:38
MasterShrekredico, kubuntu came up with a little tray icon for me about restriced drivers11:38
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MongooseWAnot an image of the screen, an image using a webcam11:38
monkeyspasmanyone know of a help channel like this one for firefox?11:38
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tantrisany idea how t debug my nautilus start problem?11:38
redicoMasterShrek:   do you have a clue what is the name of it ???11:39
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The_Joe_lol Shrek is really overworked in here11:39
MasterShrekno redico, but ill take a look right quick....11:39
MasterShrekall the time heh11:39
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redicotry #mozilla11:39
MasterShrekah redico, restricted-manager-kde11:39
redicothx alot master11:40
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E-muIs there any Live CD that supports the New Gateway Q6600 Quad Core system? it has an Intel MB and G33 chipset. I am using my own PCIe graphics card. NV 7300GT. It never completes the boot process what can I do? I already tweaked the BIos and changed it from Raid to AHCI. Tried IDE to.11:40
Spudgun89Anyone have any ideas? [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GnomeVista.png ]  << I want to make my desktop look like that, I have installed/configured Beryl etc but I'm unable to customise the top and bottom panes.11:40
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The_Joe_Gotta say: GnomeVista is sick11:40
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The_Joe_Really, really wrong11:40
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MasterShrekE-mu, tried gutsy rc?11:40
The_Joe_Just... no11:40
The_Joe_Ugh11:40
Frotz661anyone here regularly use MIDI?11:40
MasterShrekgnome is wrong...11:40
The_Joe_GNOME is good11:40
E-mugutsy rc? link?11:41
The_Joe_KDE is ok11:41
MasterShrek!gutsy11:41
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information11:41
Stevethepirateokay, i pwnt my x-server [well, change gfx cards]  whats teh command to reconfigure xorg.conf?11:41
MasterShrekThe_Joe_, the gnome devs are nazis according to Linus11:41
E-mu!gutsy11:41
vvdelol11:41
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The_Joe_MasterShrek: Is Linus your god?11:41
mneptokGNOME Vista? that's like building the Sistine Chapel and then letting Kentucky Fried Chicken paint it.11:41
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adac2how do i check if a linux installation is 32 or 64 bit?11:41
MasterShrekThe_Joe_, more so than bill11:41
vvdnazis lol :P11:41
The_Joe_I've heard about Linus's GNOME complaints11:41
Spudgun89Haha, well okay then, not Vista style, anything other than the default Ubuntu look :P11:41
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Frotz661I'm trying to track down some MIDI problems.  Does anyone here use MIDI interfaces?11:41
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diploSpudgun89 : http://www.gnome-look.org11:42
MasterShrekadac2, uname -m11:42
mneptokSpudgun89: http://art.gnome.org11:42
The_Joe_I can only really say it's his opinion and he's taken it too far11:42
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Spudgun89Thanks :)11:42
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Stevethepirateokay, i pwnt my x-server [well, change gfx cards]  whats teh command to reconfigure xorg.conf?11:42
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E-mucan I download it and now or I have to wait? Beta one avail? SO other people are having the same problem to or is there something else I can do to tweak it? options acpi=off does not work. As a matter of fact acpi=off only displays 1 of the 4 Quads11:43
MasterShrekThe_Joe_, gnome has too many flaws, well at least it used to when i was using it, i guess linus gave them a bunch of patches for it because it was quite buggy11:43
mneptokStevethepirate: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:43
Stevethepiratemneptok: <3 thanks11:43
Spudgun89For example on the on the Gnome look website, what section would I be looking in?11:43
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The_Joe_MasterShrek: Try it today, I remember it in Dapper, I even switched to KDE11:43
MasterShrekE-mu, try an alternate install cd too, with a quad core system it may be what u need to do11:43
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mneptokMasterShrek: AFAIK Linus is not a GNOME committer11:43
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AccessX.. 7.04 Jmicron raid + RAID 0 setup = livecd only see individual drives instead of one11:43
preactionMasterShrek, it wasnt buggy, it didn't have features that linus wanted11:43
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adac2MasterShrek: uname -m gives i686...suppose this is 32 bit then11:43
diploGTK2 theme stlyle area11:43
The_Joe_Preaction: Yeah Linus is rather touchy about it11:44
E-mualternate install CD option from 7.04?11:44
digbertmneptok: He committed some patches a while ago after he was told to put up or shut up.11:44
MasterShrekadac2, yes11:44
Jarvidwhat can redhat do that ubuntu can't?11:44
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Frotz661MOTU midi interfaces haven't worked since Edgy Eft.  Anyone know anything about this?11:44
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adac2MasterShrek: thx11:44
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preactionJarvid, release a seperate "Enterprise" version that costs money?11:44
MasterShrekE-mu, that or u could wait until thursday and install gutsy when it comes out11:44
Ax-Axpreaction, ;D11:45
ooFeMoe9rehallloooow11:45
mneptokdigbert: he must have had someone else commit.11:45
digbertpreaction: They also have better kickstart support as they invented it.11:45
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E-muMasterShrek, thanks11:46
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MidnighTokercomputer died and i'm having to do a gentoo recovery. used all the default options for install, and i have no idea what my root partition is11:46
Stevethepiratehow do i make compiz -not- start on startup?11:46
E-muanyone else having problems with Quad Core Q6600 and Motherboard G33 chipsets with LiveCD?11:46
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ooFeMoe9re[HELP]  compiz makes the gnome-panel not starting up properly can someone help me11:47
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Stevethepirate!compiz11:47
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:47
E-mueven DSL 4.0 rc1 will not boot through nor PClinuxOS2007 nor Knoppix or Fedora 8 test 311:47
E-munone of them11:47
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monkeyspasm11:48
monkeyspasmha! fixed it!11:48
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monkeyspasmthxbai11:48
dany21hello11:48
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AccessXI should use the Alternate install CD for a RAID parition?11:48
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The_Joe_So is there a way to fix my sound problem BEFORE Gutsy?11:49
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MasterShrekThe_Joe_, its hard to say, it may just not be supported in the kernel that feisty has, you could try compiling a new kernel11:49
The_Joe_MasterShrek: Sounds hard11:50
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The_Joe_Don't think I'll try, especially so late11:50
mneptokThe_Joe_: good call11:50
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Stevethepirate!fluxbox11:50
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox11:50
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The_Joe_mneptok: Weell considering I can't compile anything else anyway lol11:51
MasterShrekThe_Joe_, its actually alot easier than most people think, especially in ubuntu, i was surprised at how easy it is to compile a kernel11:51
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The_Joe_Nah I'm not gonna try just yet11:51
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MasterShrek=)11:51
The_Joe_Officially this is my first time using Ubuntu11:51
node357how many packages does Ubuntu have?11:51
MasterShrek15311:51
The_Joe_node357: A lot11:51
MasterShrek=P11:51
node357lol11:51
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node357I mean including the repositories11:51
The_Joe_Shrek did you go through and COUNT them? xD11:52
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MasterShrekone by one11:52
The_Joe_Eyestrain?11:52
node357lol11:52
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MasterShreknode357, it depends on which repos you have enabled, and if u added extras, also if you built your own packages11:52
dany21i have a problem. when i rum ubuntu dapper 6.03 from the live cd i get a black screen after the live os is completley loaded and my pc stops responding. i have an AMD sempron 2600+ at 1,6 GHZ, a asus k8v-x se motherboard, a asus 9250 Graphics card with ati radeon 9200 chipset, memoru: corsair 256 mb DDR 400? how can i fix this? is my system compatible with this version of ubuntu?11:52
The_Joe_I read it's over 1000 default peices of software isn't it?11:52
Stevethepirateokay, installing fluxbox as we speak, [sudo apt-get install flux-box] 11:52
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Stevethepiratehow to make it like, be used?11:52
The_Joe_Anyway I'm gonna get some shut-eye, nearly 11pm here11:53
MasterShrekdany21, get a newer version of ubuntu, dapper is kinda old11:53
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The_Joe_Good night folks11:53
node357okay MasterShrek, thank you11:53
dany21ok11:53
MasterShreklater The_Joe_11:53
node357a lot anyway hehe11:53
notgodhello. I am trying to install ubuntu server onto a maching with a nvidia quadro video card. install went fine, but when the machine boots, it's got a garbled screen. This is the server edition, so it should be in text mode.11:53
MasterShrekStevethe1irate, when you get to your login screen, click sessions and choose fluxbox11:53
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dwxreapernotgod: type reload11:54
Jimb_D11:54
dwxreaperi mean reset11:54
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notgoddwxreaper: no, it's not even getting to the login prompt.11:54
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MasterShreknotgod, does the work "splash" appear on the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst ? if it does, remove it11:54
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StevethepirateOkay, trying to like, login to PC,.... with either Fluxbox or Gnome selected, it like loads for a few secs, then hangs, and restarts gdm.... please help.. need to like do work urgently.11:55
MidnighTokerHow do i set up a big storage partition spanning 2 physical drives?11:55
notgodMasterShrek: let me check.11:55
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Ishakabibble_!glx11:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:55
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Burlynnmy macbook and the madwifi drivers do not get along. i totally lose connection at a whim11:55
MasterShrekStevethe1irate, what kind of gfx card?11:55
santanderhi, i earlier installed ubuntu 7.04 desktop and i needed to ad a module for extra nic via 'sudo modprobe 3c59x', after that the nic showed in ifconfig. now i've installed ubuntu 7.04 server and i did again 'sudo modprobe 3c59x' , and it shows in lsmod, but my nix doesnt show in ifconfig, what should i try?11:55
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RyanHIs anyone here maintaining a CDBS package and using TLA? I seems to have found a hiccup in CDBS for which I am not sure how to get around.11:56
notgodMasterShrek: yes, it does. removed it. How do I save my change?11:56
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StevethepirateIntel onboard now.. had a 7600gtx.. but causing heat problems [hence the rapid removale of it :(]  .. so reconfigured xorf.conf for new card....11:56
MasterShreksantander, does it show up twice in lsmod?  try: lsmod | grep 3c59x11:56
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MasterShreknotgod, youll need to use sudo to edit the file11:56
Ishakabibble_!xgl11:56
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:56
Stevethepiratemeh?11:56
StevethepirateMasterShrek: was that at me?11:57
notgodMasterShrek: same problem after removing splash11:57
MasterShreknot sure Stevethe1irate sounds like you need to get your gfx card installed correctly, you could try changing the driver to vesa in xorg.conf11:57
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MasterShrekno it wasnt before Stevethe1irate11:57
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santanderMasterShrek : it shows up as itself, and also after mii, so i guess mii uses it? that is at least the same as in the previous install11:57
MasterShrekStevethepirate*** damn tab completion11:57
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Stevethepiratedriver is 'intel'11:58
P_Kablewhat is the command to know everything about a hard drive ? specially the real size ?11:58
Stevethepiratein /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:58
P_Kableplease11:58
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Stevethepiratesudo fdisk -l P_Kable11:58
MasterShrekStevethepirate, make it vesa11:58
Stevethepiratekk11:58
coucou123456/leave11:58
santanderMasterShrek i piped the output of lsmod to a file to compare in case of probs11:58
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Stevethepiratetrying sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart now..11:59
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MasterShreksantander, is it the same kernel in both installs?11:59
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notgodMasterShrek: even going into recovery mode has the same problem. heh11:59
P_KableStevethepirate=>  sudo fdisk -l /mountpoint ??11:59
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MasterShreki would make sure that in the new install the kernel is at least as new as the old one11:59
Aaron`helllo11:59
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MasterShreknotgod, does it boot at all, or right away it screws up?12:00
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MasterShrekP_Kable, no, just type: sudo fdisk -l12:00
santanderMasterShrek : the previous was ubuntu 7.04 desktop, and the current is ubuntu 7.04 server, so i think it is the same kernell12:00
StevethepirateMasterShrek: okay.. it goes black for a few seconds12:00
ppl_can_b_koolAaron`: hi :)12:00
cboxhi guys12:00
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Stevethepiratethen looks like its changing resolution, then fails12:00
MasterShreksantander, interesting, do you have the kernel-modules package installed?12:00
Aaron`CAN Sum1 help my ubuntu12:00
notgodMasterShrek: right after "Starting Up..." and it boots, but no default ssh installed, so I can tell it's up because I can ping it and hit the LAMP server.12:00
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Aaron`can someone help me install my ubuntu cd12:01
cboxim wondering if there is someone here who knows how to decipher a BootChart png?12:01
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StevethepirateMasterShrek: like, with 'intel' it loaded, then craashed when logging in, now it doens't load X :(12:01
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MasterShrekStevethe1irate, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:01
Stevethepiratewith vesa?12:01
Aaron`my brother told me to install ubuntu because it's better or something, but i like windows. i heard linox was crap compared to it12:01
MasterShrekStevethepirate, either way, if it doesnt work with one try the other12:01
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Aaron`its meant to be hard work and why do you have a gnomes on your desktop12:01
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santanderMasterShrek : i dont know, i tried to apt-get 'kernel-modules' but it replies couldn't find package kernel-modules :/12:02
Aaron`PLEASE HELP12:02
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WinballAaron` stay with windows please12:02
MasterShreklol12:02
Ishakabibble_hi guys and gals, I'm having a problem with the update manager. It keeps telling me to upgrade Compiz, but the weird thing is that every time I install the upgrade, the update manager still keeps on telling me to upgrade Compiz even though I have just done an upgrade. Does anyone know what the matter could be?12:02
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musashiMasterShrek, i got wireless working, but my sound works sometimes sometimes it doesnt12:02
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joshjoshAaron`, apt-get update first12:02
Stevethepirate!shouting | Aaron`12:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about shouting - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:02
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Stevethepirate!caps | Aaron`12:03
Aaron`shut up12:03
ubotuAaron`: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.12:03
Aaron`i don't care, you can read uppercase just as well.12:03
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cafuego!ohmy | Aaron`12:03
ubotuAaron`: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.12:03
unagiBUT CAPS GETS MORE ATTENTION!12:03
Aaron`i just need help with my ubuntuz12:03
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MasterShrekAaron`, if you want help then be nice to people12:03
santanderlol unagi12:03
E-muMasterShrek here is the message I get. tty turned off; cannot access job control12:03
StevethepirateAaron` sounds like a drunk 13 year old..12:03
cboxi have a bootchart picture and i'm trying to figure out where my system is bogging down on startup. anyone help?12:03
preaction!attitude | Aaron`12:03
ubotuAaron`: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:03
E-muis there a way to fix that?12:03
Ishakabibble_Does anyone know what my problem is?12:03
Aaron`i'm trying but why should i install ubuntu when windows is also good12:03
MasterShrekStevethepirate, agreed12:03
unagiits true =/12:03
Aaron`i want to learn other operational systems12:03

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