| keithy_ | well an idea for core dev... dmg installer for Mac OS X 10.4 | 00:02 |
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| lifeless | spiv: ping; can we chat? if you're not deep in the flow; I have a proposal for 'what revisions I need to push detection' | 00:02 |
| lifeless | keithy_: I'll mail the list for you if you like | 00:03 |
| lifeless | keithy_: the dmg is done by community members :) | 00:03 |
| keithy_ | k | 00:03 |
| keithy_ | I'v been waiting for python to finish building for ages, does it take long? | 00:05 |
| dysinger | that's the stupid problem with macports | 00:05 |
| dysinger | It compiles EVERYTHING | 00:05 |
| dysinger | it might as well compile an alternate kernel too for pete's sake | 00:06 |
| dysinger | I don't use it. | 00:06 |
| dysinger | ./configure && make are easy to use. | 00:06 |
| keithy_ | I think I have python on this mc 4 times now | 00:06 |
| dysinger | what would it take to get easy_install on your mac ? | 00:07 |
| dysinger | skip macports | 00:07 |
| dysinger | if you have easy_install then it's just one line | 00:08 |
| dysinger | to get the latest bzr | 00:08 |
| dysinger | sudo easy_install -U paramiko pycrypto bzr | 00:08 |
| dysinger | OS X comes with Python - you shouldn't have to be compiling Python. | 00:08 |
| dysinger | http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall | 00:09 |
| minghua | OS X's python is crippled pretty hard last time (10.3 days) I looked. | 00:11 |
| jelmer | lifeless: is there a dmg yet? I thought there were people still working on it | 00:11 |
| igc | maybe we should add easy_install instructions to the Download page | 00:11 |
| jelmer | igc: easy_install doesn't provide a patched python-subversion | 00:18 |
| foom | someone could make an easy_installable python-subversion, though, probably. | 00:19 |
| jelmer | that would be nice | 00:20 |
| keithy_ | Error: The following dependencies failed to build: py25-paramiko py25-zlib | 00:20 |
| jelmer | there have been quite a few people here trying to patch and build it | 00:21 |
| jelmer | that reminds me, I need to get that memory leak fix into hardy... | 00:23 |
| jelmer | because of the way the memory pool stuff works in apr, it's also a major performance improvement | 00:23 |
| keithy_ | so macports is hosed | 00:29 |
| keithy_ | I cant even find a skip option | 00:29 |
| dysinger | Yeah I stopped using fink and macports years ago | 00:29 |
| dysinger | same reason I stopped using gentoo | 00:29 |
| dysinger | you are guaranteed to get pissed one day when the whole build system breaks down when you need it. | 00:30 |
| keithy_ | yeah I use knoppix for linux because I detest these installation issues | 00:30 |
| keithy_ | has everything preinstalled | 00:30 |
| dysinger | debian and debian variants - accept no substitutes | 00:30 |
| keithy_ | but I cant beleive I have found a mac os x programme that is offering me no options | 00:30 |
| dysinger | have you tried easy_install (or are you more inclined to the not_easy_install_hair_pulling method) ? | 00:33 |
| dysinger | http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools#installing-setuptools | 00:33 |
| dysinger | er better http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall#installation-instructions | 00:34 |
| dysinger | try this | 00:35 |
| dysinger | cd /tmp ; curl -O http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py ; python ./ez_setup.py | 00:35 |
| dysinger | sheesh I am not even a python person :/ Help me out guys. | 00:36 |
| lifeless | jelmer: I thought there was a 10.5 one | 00:38 |
| dysinger | There is but you don't need it | 00:38 |
| dysinger | easy_install -U does the same thing | 00:38 |
| dysinger | It just looks prettier | 00:38 |
| dysinger | and has docs | 00:38 |
| jelmer | lifeless: Ah, it just doesn't include the python-subversion stuff then yet | 00:38 |
| dysinger | (It = dmg) | 00:39 |
| dysinger | I am updating the python-subversion instructions again on the wiki in the next 30 min | 00:39 |
| dysinger | (for OS X) | 00:39 |
| dysinger | It's better than my yesterday edit. | 00:39 |
| lifeless | abentley: ping | 00:48 |
| dysinger | lol I finally got time to install subversion (trunk) 1.5 and now it says svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk' | 00:49 |
| lifeless | abentley: I am looking at adding a 'current_search' parameter to get_parent_map; this will allow get_parent_map on the smart server to avoid sending duplicate data back | 00:49 |
| dysinger | wtf? | 00:49 |
| dysinger | svn+ssh works but it's not recognizing the http | 00:51 |
| dysinger | grr | 00:51 |
| keithy_ | error: Download error for http://www.lag.net/paramiko/download/paramiko-1.7.1.zip: (61, 'Connection refused') | 00:52 |
| keithy_ | I give up | 00:53 |
| lifeless | keithy_: you only need paramiko for sftp | 00:53 |
| lifeless | keithy_: to just use bzr; if you have *a* python (2.4 or newer) just do this: | 00:53 |
| lifeless | - grab the bzr tarball | 00:53 |
| lifeless | - untar it | 00:53 |
| lifeless | - add that directory to your path | 00:53 |
| lifeless | * DONE * | 00:53 |
| keithy_ | it worked! | 01:08 |
| hsn_ | what is main feature of bzr-1.1? | 01:11 |
| dysinger | version control | 01:11 |
| * dysinger ducks | 01:11 | |
| keithy_ | erm .. it doesnt install on Mac os x 10.4 | 01:11 |
| keithy_ | ;-) | 01:11 |
| lifeless | max os X is awkward | 01:19 |
| lifeless | its really geared for binary installs, but the vast chunk of unix programmes are not supplied as binaries by apple | 01:20 |
| lifeless | spiv: the eagle has landed | 01:24 |
| spiv | lifeless: sweet | 01:24 |
| Talden | hsn - ditto. It'd be nice to see the web-page announce 1.1 in the news and give some hint as to what is new (even if it's just "here's a faster, more stable bzr"). | 01:25 |
| lifeless | there is a changelog I thought | 01:27 |
| lifeless | Talden: http://bazaar-vcs.org/ | 01:27 |
| lifeless | Talden: says "The main changes in this release are: improved diff, merge, annotate and reconfigure commands; more efficient ordering inside pack repositories; better http authentication, and various other bugs fixed. (full changelog) | 01:28 |
| lifeless | " | 01:28 |
| lifeless | Talden: and links to the full changelog. | 01:28 |
| foom | lifeless: but the "News" section doesn't say anything | 01:35 |
| lifeless | foom: see martins post about website maintenance | 01:35 |
| * igc lunch | 01:36 | |
| jelmer | Hmm | 01:47 |
| jelmer | the improved Inventory.repr() is nice, but it causes very large backtraces in some cases | 01:47 |
| jelmer | I just got a single-line 700k error from bzr | 01:48 |
| lifeless | jelmer: grats | 02:37 |
| jelmer | lifeless: hi | 02:38 |
| jelmer | lifeless, grats? | 02:38 |
| lifeless | on 700K bt | 02:38 |
| poolie | bt? | 02:38 |
| bob2 | (backtrace) | 02:39 |
| jelmer | lifeless: ah, congrats? | 02:39 |
| lifeless | jelmer: yes | 02:39 |
| jelmer | you had me wondering there for a moment why that word wasn't in my 500-page en<->nl dictionary ;-) | 02:41 |
| lifeless | WoW slang | 02:45 |
| jelmer | well, with so many Australian bzr developers, I'm glad the main language isn't strine :-P | 02:47 |
| bob2 | does bzr not have an en_AU translation yet? | 02:47 |
| jelmer | There is no localization yet | 02:49 |
| jelmer | and both english and american spelling appear to be used | 02:50 |
| jelmer | bob2: so what's different in en_AU from en_UK? | 02:50 |
| jml | jelmer: very few things. | 02:51 |
| jelmer | I can't seem to find any difference in the .mo files | 02:55 |
| ntnhan | it seems that plugin email works only on client side, when I commit any code to server but email is not sent on server | 02:56 |
| ntnhan | anybody has idea? | 02:56 |
| * jelmer suddenly realizes he's up at 4 AM searching for differences between Australian and British language files for evolution and decides to get some sleep | 02:56 | |
| jelmer | ntnhan: It doesn't send email from the server side | 02:56 |
| ntnhan | jelmer: yes, that's what I don't want :( | 02:57 |
| beuno | ntnhan, is the server running the bzr smart server? | 02:58 |
| ntnhan | beuno: no, it's just bzr installed | 02:59 |
| beuno | ntnhan, I'm not sure how you can make the server send off emails if it's not actually running bzr when you commit | 03:00 |
| beuno | (smart server would solve it in that case, as you can hook into it) | 03:02 |
| ntnhan | bueno: how do we configure bzr running on server each time client commits? | 03:02 |
| beuno | ntnhan, using the smart server :D | 03:02 |
| ntnhan | bueno: haha, thx, I didn't know it :), will give a try now | 03:02 |
| beuno | ntnhan, then you can just hook into bzr, maybe even the current plugin will send off emails. jelmer? | 03:03 |
| jelmer | I don't think the smart server can send emails when a revision is pushed to it | 03:04 |
| jelmer | but it's been a while since I've looked at it | 03:04 |
| jelmer | it being bzr-email | 03:04 |
| jelmer | lifeless is the bzr-email maintainer so he's probably in a better position to comment | 03:04 |
| beuno | ntnhan, maybe take a peek at http://bazaar-vcs.org/SmartServer/RemoteObjectHacking | 03:05 |
| beuno | and of course, lifeless would be *the* man :D | 03:05 |
| ntnhan | beuno: ok, i'll try it | 03:05 |
| lifeless | ntnhan: hi | 03:06 |
| ntnhan | lifeless: hi | 03:06 |
| lifeless | ntnhan: the bzr-email plugin fires on Branch.post_commit which is not currently invoked in the server process; as discussed above you will have to bzr using bzr:// (or bzr+ssh etc) for it to work /in principal/ | 03:06 |
| lifeless | but we have to make it work in fact too:) | 03:06 |
| lifeless | there is a cron based solution folk have created which sends an email when a new commit is detected on the branch and works with any transport (rysnc, bzr, sftp, etc) | 03:07 |
| beuno | there has to be someway to do it, Launchpad does it :p | 03:07 |
| lifeless | beuno: launchpad uses the cron based solution | 03:07 |
| lifeless | beuno: not the exact same code but that logic path | 03:08 |
| beuno | seems fairly trivial, just scan through the dir, save the last revid sent by email, and fire off | 03:08 |
| beuno | (of course, almost anything seems trivial in irc :P) | 03:09 |
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| lifeless | beuno: well code exists; kthxbye :) | 03:09 |
| ntnhan | beuno: yes, but everybody wants to save time, need a ready cake | 03:09 |
| ntnhan | :) | 03:10 |
| beuno | ntnhan, that's how plugins get started :D | 03:10 |
| beuno | (or specs pushed into the trunk) | 03:10 |
| beuno | file a bug | 03:10 |
| beuno | requesting it | 03:10 |
| beuno | the "let's get the aount of open bugs" fever in the upcoming sprint should take care of the rest! | 03:11 |
| beuno | s/aount/amount | 03:11 |
| dysinger | jelmer sorry to bother you again. So I have subversion 1.5 trunk all compiled into /usr/local with neon and all is good. I can do all the subversion functions with it - it works. Then I try to use bzr 1.1 w/ bzr-svn stable and get bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "https://.... for every single svn url I try. | 03:23 |
| dysinger | This worked fine in subversion 1.4.6 | 03:23 |
| Odd_Bloke | dysinger: Try 'svn+https://...'. | 03:24 |
| * Odd_Bloke can't remember if that works or not. | 03:24 | |
| dysinger | yeah not working either | 03:24 |
| dysinger | already tried that | 03:24 |
| Odd_Bloke | Well, jelmer will probably save the day. | 03:25 |
| Odd_Bloke | He normally does. :p | 03:25 |
| dysinger | I am trying to get closer and closer to his setup | 03:25 |
| dysinger | svn+https blows up with a stack trace | 03:25 |
| jelmer | dysinger: Do you have libneon built with SSL support? | 03:25 |
| dysinger | regular https:// is acting like it's looking at as a bzr branch | 03:26 |
| lifeless | dysinger: its jelmer's 4am :- I think you'll get little now :) | 03:26 |
| dysinger | hah! | 03:26 |
| lifeless | have you looked in ~/.bzr.log ? | 03:26 |
| dysinger | He's up! | 03:26 |
| dysinger | ah ok two good suggestions. | 03:26 |
| lifeless | I wager its not loading the plugin | 03:26 |
| dysinger | 1st svn ls https:// works and yes svn --version shows https | 03:26 |
| dysinger | let me look at the log | 03:27 |
| jelmer | dysinger: the svn executable from the location you just installed to and with the same DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH set? | 03:27 |
| dysinger | FAQ! | 03:27 |
| dysinger | one sec maybe my bad | 03:27 |
| dysinger | I managed to install it in /usr/local/bin but svn --version reports 1.4.4 (version that comes with mac). ??? | 03:29 |
| dysinger | This is kicking my ass. | 03:29 |
| dysinger | I am setting DYLD and PYTHONPATH too | 03:30 |
| dysinger | PATH has /usr/local first | 03:30 |
| dysinger | ok I have more work to do | 03:31 |
| dysinger | my neon didn't install right. | 03:31 |
| * dysinger goes back to the salt mines | 03:31 | |
| lifeless | spiv: how do you get remote server backtraces ? | 03:33 |
| j1mc | hello, i've read a little bit about the differences between bundles and regular patches, but i'm not sure i fully understand. can anyone explain the advantages of a bundle vs. pushing up a regular patch (or set of patches) as a revision? | 03:47 |
| lifeless | bundles and pushing revisions are roughly equivalent | 03:48 |
| lifeless | think of it as a transport change | 03:48 |
| j1mc | transport change? | 03:48 |
| lifeless | however 'regular patches' means GNU patch output, which does not include: commit messages, mode changes, renames, deletes-as-deletes | 03:49 |
| beuno | j1mc, basically, bundles have bzr metadata about the commit(s), and a regular patch just has the diff for the changes to the code | 03:49 |
| lifeless | spiv: ping | 03:50 |
| minghua | lifeless: deletes-as-deletes? | 03:50 |
| j1mc | beuno: thanks. (and thanks to you, too, lifeless). what kind of bzr metadata might be included in the bundle? | 03:50 |
| lifeless | minghua: 'foo is deleted' is different to 'foo has a patch that removes <entire list of old lines>' | 03:51 |
| j1mc | ah, ok. | 03:52 |
| lifeless | minghua: its particularly different in terms of the conflicts you can give the user; and also how do you represent 'trunc() this file' if a delete is shown as deleting all the contents ;)). | 03:53 |
| minghua | lifeless: Ah, I see. Thanks. | 03:56 |
| Verterok-laptop | moin | 04:04 |
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| spiv | lifeless: http://rafb.net/p/JoRYz534.html | 04:05 |
| lifeless | spiv: bb:approve | 04:06 |
| Verterok | poolie, lifeless: I have a dmg for OS X 10.4 ready for a ride :) | 04:06 |
| poolie | Verterok, yay | 04:06 |
| spiv | lifeless: ta | 04:06 |
| poolie | Verterok, can you upload it to launchpad? | 04:06 |
| poolie | btw i spoke to them about the size limit | 04:06 |
| Verterok | it's ppc only | 04:06 |
| lifeless | Verterok: sweet | 04:06 |
| poolie | is 60MB ok? | 04:06 |
| lifeless | keithy_: ^ | 04:06 |
| Verterok | poolie: 6MB | 04:07 |
| Verterok | there might be something wrong 6MB vs 60MB | 04:08 |
| Verterok | this dmg only contains bzr+pycrypto+paramiko | 04:09 |
| Verterok | aha, all the plugins missing :P | 04:10 |
| Verterok | I'm going to add Rebase and bzrtools to it, but I don't have QT installed in OS X so no Qbzr :( | 04:11 |
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| Verterok | poolie: I misunderstood the question about the size (is too late here :P) | 04:26 |
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| lifeless | Verterok: l) | 04:40 |
| Verterok | I have a dmg with bzr(pycrypto+paramiko) + bzrtools + bzr-rebase :) | 04:46 |
| lifeless | care to add bzr-email | 04:46 |
| Verterok | ok | 04:47 |
| Verterok | lifeless: trunk? | 04:48 |
| lifeless | yup | 04:49 |
| Verterok | trunk has not been published yet | 04:51 |
| lifeless | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr/bzr-email/trunk/ | 04:52 |
| lifeless | dunno what you mean by not published yet | 04:52 |
| Verterok | is what launchpad say :) | 04:52 |
| Verterok | https://code.launchpad.net/~lifeless/bzr-email/trunk | 04:53 |
| lifeless | url ? | 04:53 |
| lifeless | ~bzr | 04:53 |
| lifeless | not ~lifeless | 04:53 |
| Verterok | ok, sorry | 04:53 |
| lifeless | thumper: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bzr/bzr-email/trunk <- | 04:54 |
| lifeless | thumper: I didn't get any notification about that merge request | 04:55 |
| lifeless | thumper: so I didn't know it exists | 04:55 |
| Verterok | poolie: I'm going to upload it to: https://launchpad.net/bzr/1.1/1.1 it's ok? | 05:03 |
| poolie | yes, thanks | 05:04 |
| lifeless | spiv: down to 100 seconds in get_parents_map calls | 05:09 |
| lifeless | spiv: thats down from 237 | 05:22 |
| spiv | lifeless: very nice | 05:23 |
| spiv | lifeless: that's for branching bzr.dev from London? | 05:23 |
| lifeless | yeah | 05:26 |
| lifeless | 115 seconds on my current test | 05:26 |
| lifeless | I'm done for the day; | 05:26 |
| lifeless | I'll commit and push | 05:26 |
| lifeless | if you re interested | 05:27 |
| lifeless | http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/baz2.0/search-results | 05:27 |
| lifeless | rev 3198 pushing now | 05:27 |
| lifeless | 15 seconds from startup to starting the stream in my 'last 100' test | 05:29 |
| lifeless | thats another 100% saving over my report earlier in the week | 05:29 |
| lifeless | your patch when it lands will help debug | 05:30 |
| lifeless | it seems to be falling into a 'one at a time' pathological mode | 05:30 |
| lifeless | it should be walking minimum-depth-at-a-time, and it may be that there are places where the search collapses; but I don't expect that. | 05:31 |
| poolie | lifeless, have a tolerable trip :) | 05:31 |
| lifeless | so this needs some good analysis and reporting to figure out what is going wrong; the hg recursive approach may be something to reintroduce | 05:31 |
| lifeless | I don't anticipategetting any hacking on this branch done next week | 05:31 |
| lifeless | but I'm quite happy with where it is getting to :) | 05:32 |
| lifeless | thats poolie | 05:33 |
| lifeless | poolie: oh you might like to mail me anything you want (other than the baz package stuff) for discussion with the distro. | 05:34 |
| lifeless | ciao. | 05:34 |
| thumper | lifeless: yeah, damn eh | 05:37 |
| thumper | lifeless: a bug report would be good :-) | 05:37 |
| Manfre | is it possible to modify the commit message for a revision? | 05:46 |
| poolie | Manfre, uncommit then commit again | 05:46 |
| Manfre | is there anyway to modify a revision that is not the head? | 05:47 |
| abentley | lifeless: The idea sounds fine. I've never considered anything below Graph to be a stable interface. It's Graphs that repos are required to provide. | 06:10 |
| abentley | Whatever way is most efficient for them. | 06:10 |
| ubotu | New bug: #183948 in bzr "can't PUSH over an sshfs fuse file share" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183948 | 06:40 |
| * spiv goes for a swim | 06:41 | |
| thumper | abentley: man, when do you sleep? | 06:51 |
| * Verterok leaves, only two hours for sleep. seeya! | 07:20 | |
| caelum_ | f | 07:21 |
| AnMaster | how long as 1.1 been out? | 07:39 |
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| AfC | AnMaster: a few days | 08:02 |
| AnMaster | ok | 08:10 |
| sabdfl | poolie: ping | 08:10 |
| soren | AnMaster: "Bazaar 1.1 was released on the 15th of January, 2008." <---- Very first sentence on http://bazaar-vcs.org/ | 08:17 |
| AnMaster | right | 08:21 |
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| dato | jelmer: because I see python packages b-depending on python-all-dev *everywhere*, and it's not needed at all | 09:17 |
| dato | jelmer: omg, I don't know if you saw my question yesterday about making the svn cp from bzr-svn itself, but I tried it and it works... | 09:28 |
| dato | jelmer: so my bug has much less priority now, thanks to bzr-svn rocking ;) | 09:28 |
| ntoll | hi, how does bzr merge handle a move or delete on one branch and an edit on the other (since they were branched)? | 10:34 |
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| ntoll | aha... just found the docs... looks like this case is handled | 10:42 |
| asac | is there an easy way (short hand) to export a series of commits as one-patch-per-commit? | 10:45 |
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| stefanv | hey all, is there a way to remove binary files including their history from a bzr archive? | 11:09 |
| stefanv | s/archive/branch/ | 11:09 |
| stefanv | I found that tracking jsmath-fonts is a big pain in the ass, with all its 20 000 odd files | 11:10 |
| stefanv | maybe I can check out before their inclusion, and apply all the patches that happened after their inclusion | 11:11 |
| lifeless | asak_: diff -r x..+1 in a loop perhaps ? | 11:11 |
| stefanv | hrm, bugger, those files were there since revision 1 | 11:12 |
| * dato hands lifeless diff -c ;) | 11:20 | |
| stefanv | did an experiment now, and seems like you can remove all traces of a binary file from a branch by doing 'bzr remove'. Why is that even possible? Shouldn't you be able to revert to any point in history? | 11:32 |
| dato | stefanv: no, remove does not remove all traces | 11:33 |
| stefanv | dato: hrm, interesting: because I had 88Mb's worth of binary files, and now the repo in total is only 18Mb | 11:34 |
| AfC | ... _is_ there a way to purge all evidence of something from a branch history & repo? | 11:37 |
| AfC | I mean, in purist terms you'd never need to, but there are pragmatic reasons (material committed illegally, security sensitive or privacy sensitive information at risk of being divulged, etc) | 11:38 |
| stefanv | AfC: well, I just made sure: when I remove those binary files, and do 'bzr uncommit', they don't come back | 11:38 |
| stefanv | so it definately permanently erases them | 11:38 |
| AfC | Assumint the | 11:39 |
| AfC | revision hasn't leaked anywhere... but the revision itself it's still in the repository. I think you could fetch it if you knew it's revid | 11:39 |
| stefanv | yes, if you knew which binary files to bring back (i.e. you still have the filename information) | 11:40 |
| stefanv | AFAIK in an SVN repository, the binary data itself is also stored | 11:40 |
| stefanv | hence my original question :) | 11:40 |
| luks | no, you can't remove anything from the repository permanently without rewriting it completely | 11:41 |
| stefanv | AfC: I would very much like to know the answer to your question above, as well. sometimes, copyrighted code is checked into open source repos, which causes problems. | 11:42 |
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| luks | I guess the size difference is because you count the working tree size | 11:42 |
| stefanv | luks: you cannot bring back those binary files, they are gone. | 11:42 |
| luks | you can | 11:42 |
| luks | bzr remove doesn't actually remove them from the history | 11:42 |
| stefanv | well, since my repo is now only 3.3Mb large, I'd like to know where it stores those 88Mb worth of files :) | 11:42 |
| stefanv | luks: no, sure, they *filename* info is still there... but the actual bytes are gone | 11:43 |
| luks | nope | 11:43 |
| stefanv | so, 88Mb in 3.3Mb, eh? | 11:43 |
| luks | if you just did bzr remove and bzr commit, all the bytes are still there | 11:43 |
| luks | the only thing I could imagine is that you haven't committed 'bzr add' of those files | 11:44 |
| dato | sounds like it | 11:44 |
| stefanv | they *were* tracked: | 11:44 |
| stefanv | === removed file 'sanum/static/javascript/jsMath/fonts/cmbx10/plain/85/char73.png' | 11:45 |
| stefanv | let me just recheck the original repo | 11:45 |
| luks | bzr cat -r REVISION_IN_WHICH_THE_FILE_WAS_ADDED sanum/static/javascript/jsMath/fonts/cmbx10/plain/85/char73.png | 11:45 |
| stefanv | ok, so it's head-in-the-sand time then? | 11:46 |
| stefanv | hrm, but wait | 11:47 |
| stefanv | if I do bzr log sanum/static/.... I should see something | 11:47 |
| stefanv | yeap, I don't think those files were tracked. why don't they show up in bzr status then? | 11:48 |
| stefanv | ok, erase my previous 4 sentences | 11:49 |
| stefanv | the files *was* tracked from revision 1 | 11:49 |
| stefanv | the bzr cat -r 1 command shows its contents | 11:49 |
| stefanv | which explains why bzr status doesn't explain it | 11:50 |
| stefanv | s/explain/show/ | 11:50 |
| stefanv | luks: are you sure the bzr behaviour you describe above is correct? | 11:50 |
| luks | yes | 11:51 |
| luks | you can never ever permanently remove anything from the repository | 11:52 |
| luks | it would break integrity of the repository | 11:52 |
| stefanv | something very strange going on. I can confirm the behaviour you describe with a new repo, but not with my other one. | 11:52 |
| luks | the only way to remove them would be to "rewrite" the repository without those file | 11:52 |
| stefanv | luks: ok, figured out what was going on | 11:55 |
| stefanv | luks: the binary files are indeed tracked | 11:55 |
| stefanv | luks: but they are *much* smaller when they aren't physically written to disk | 11:56 |
| luks | 'physically written to disk' means in the working tree? | 11:56 |
| stefanv | luks: about 20000 odd files, each taking up a minimum space determined by the file-system configuration | 11:56 |
| stefanv | luks: yes, so if they are all stored in one big file, they are much much smaller | 11:56 |
| luks | 88MB vs. 3MB still seems too big difference | 11:57 |
| dato | 20000 files at 4k blog size would be 78mb | 11:57 |
| stefanv | well, the files are tiny, and an inode needs a min of 4 or 8K right? | 11:58 |
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| dato | 20000 ~150 byte files make 3mb | 11:58 |
| luks | hm, makes sense | 11:58 |
| dato | so, it's possible | 11:58 |
| stefanv | my apologies for not believing that bzr could compress 90Mb into 3Mb :) | 11:59 |
| luks | :) | 11:59 |
| stefanv | now, I also know better than to try and rsync that repo | 12:00 |
| rjek | When I try to bzr push, I get an error about how the branches have diverged. bzr merge then pulls these new changes. There are no conflicts (the changes don't effect the same files). What do I do after I've done that merge to allow me to push? | 12:19 |
| luks | commit | 12:20 |
| luks | every merge needs a commit | 12:20 |
| rjek | Ah, so I commit the differences from somebody else's branch to my one? | 12:20 |
| * rjek sees. Ta. | 12:20 | |
| luks | yes | 12:20 |
| rjek | As a convention, what do people tend to use as their commit messages for such merges? | 12:20 |
| luks | I usually use "Merge <URL>" or "Merge <branch name>" | 12:21 |
| rjek | Right. | 12:21 |
| luks | but some people prefer more descriptive messages | 12:21 |
| rjek | That seems fine. | 12:21 |
| * Ng would be very happy if a post-merge commit that hadn't changed anything other than the merge would do that automagically, I never have anything to add to the logs from the merged branch :) | 12:22 | |
| luks | Ng: auto-merge is not always right | 12:23 |
| luks | even if there are no textual conflicts, you can't be sure the merge is right | 12:23 |
| Ng | luks: indeed. I only use bzr in very small and simple ways, so I appreciate that me wanting it to be easier isn't suitable for all ;) | 12:23 |
| rjek | :) | 12:25 |
| asac | lifeless: thanks ... didn't know about the +1 notation ;) | 12:34 |
| asac | guessing a patch-filename from comment would be nice to have automated though | 12:34 |
| dato | asac: I don't think that notation exists. you want diff -c | 12:37 |
| asac | dato: ok ... -c is even better :) | 12:42 |
| asac | btw, the foreach (ezbzr) branch isn't hosted at the place named on BzrPlugins page anymore. maybe remove it or contact the author. | 12:43 |
| asac | naybe the bazaar-cvs.org page should start to auto-mirror branches of plugins where license permits it? | 12:45 |
| abentley | thumper: Evidently, I slept just then. | 13:00 |
| thumper | and I'm just about to | 13:00 |
| abentley | (Geez, Thumper, when do you sleep?) | 13:16 |
| fullermd | Sleep? I heard of that once, I think... | 13:17 |
| * fullermd checks google. | 13:17 | |
| radix | I find merge commits the perfect place for NEWS-style descriptions. At the least, I use those commits alone to generate the release announcement. | 13:18 |
| radix | I also put ticket numbers in the commits for merges. | 13:18 |
| radix | and describe the change in high-level | 13:19 |
| luks | that works fine if you have a mainline and only merge feature branches | 13:19 |
| luks | but it's not that useful when you randomly sync with a few developers | 13:20 |
| radix | yeah. why would I do that random thing when I could do an organized thing? :) | 13:20 |
| luks | dunno, the "decentralized" thing :) | 13:20 |
| radix | my development is perfectly distributed. | 13:21 |
| * radix goes to get breakfast | 13:21 | |
| luks | that doesn't mean decentralized | 13:21 |
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| abentley | jelmer: I don't plan to ever work on trac-bzr again. | 13:36 |
| jelmer | abentley: oh, ok | 13:36 |
| stefanv | abentley: I didn't follow the rest of the thread -- is trac-bzr maintained at all? | 13:38 |
| abentley | stefanv: I have the impression that other people have been working on it. | 13:38 |
| stefanv | abentley: that's good news -- many projects simply won't switch if there isn't a supported trac backend available | 13:40 |
| AfC | Oh my. `meld` is amazing. | 13:42 |
| AfC | I wonder if we can find a way to feed it from bzr-gtk | 13:42 |
| * luks never really got any of those gui merge programs | 13:43 | |
| stefanv | I'm guilty of still merging with emacs | 13:44 |
| jelmer | AfC: We've been discussing that, but the main problem at the moment is that there's no sane API that allows you to use it yet | 13:45 |
| AfC | jelmer: fair enough | 13:47 |
| jelmer | Of course, we could just fix meld but nobody has done that yet... | 13:47 |
| AfC | jelmer: (I just had a conflict and so for the heck of it tried | 13:47 |
| AfC | `meld DemoWindowRunner.java.OTHER DemoWindowRunner.java.THIS` | 13:48 |
| AfC | and it was glorious) | 13:48 |
| jelmer | yeah, it works and looks quite well | 13:48 |
| AfC | luks: I haven't tried it as a merging program, but to show the diff it was really slick | 13:48 |
| luks | AfC: I don't think you need to even specify filenames, it can figure out bzr conflicts itself | 13:49 |
| radix | speaking of meld, I'd love to use it with bzr but bzr diff doesn't have a --diff-cmd parameter | 13:50 |
| radix | (just for the diff viewing, of course. the merging would obviously require more work) | 13:51 |
| AfC | Whoa. So for merging / conflict resolution you just click on the arrows... | 13:52 |
| luks | radix: not sure if it works with meld, but there is `bzr diff --using` | 13:52 |
| brilliantnut | if meld takes file1 file2 as arguments then --using will work. | 13:53 |
| radix | that must only be in bzr.dev or something... | 13:53 |
| luks | 1.1 I think | 13:53 |
| brilliantnut | 1.1 | 13:53 |
| radix | ah, cool | 13:53 |
| * radix clicks the little explodey down-arrow | 13:54 | |
| radix | looks like it's not packaged yet, or something. guess I'll have to wait a couple day s:) | 13:58 |
| AfC | 'night | 13:59 |
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| luks | radix: it's in ppa | 14:00 |
| elmo | missing postfix | 14:03 |
| elmo | bzr: ERROR: unknown kind 'missing' | 14:03 |
| elmo | ^-- halp? | 14:03 |
| lamont | elmo: bzr version maybe? | 14:05 |
| elmo | it's 1.0 | 14:05 |
| mikl | how do I fix conflicts? The docs talk about conflict markers, whatever that is... | 14:34 |
| rjek | Manually, usually. | 14:34 |
| mikl | ensuring that .BASE, .THIS and .OTHER files are identical wont allow me to resolve it | 14:34 |
| mikl | nor will deleting them do the trick | 14:34 |
| dato | mikl: edit the conflicting file to make sure it's resolved, and then `bzr resolve FILE` | 14:35 |
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| bac | mikl: using a tool like kdiff3 or meld makes it pretty easy | 15:02 |
| bac | i use the extmerge plugin which you may want to have a look at | 15:03 |
| mikl | bac: ok, thank you :) | 15:03 |
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| rjek | So, what are people's suggestions for web-based bzr branch/repository browsers that don't require a big fat framework? | 15:44 |
| beuno | rjek, I've been working on a php-based solution | 15:59 |
| beuno | but it's not releaseable | 15:59 |
| TFKyle | beuno: implemented a lot of bzr in php? | 16:00 |
| rjek | Eugh. I'm not sure I'd want to run a php-based one. | 16:02 |
| rjek | Especially given that we've banned PHP from our co-lo boxes. | 16:02 |
| beuno | TFKyle, yeap, quite a lot | 16:02 |
| rjek | Something that could do what bzr vis does would be extra lovely. | 16:03 |
| rjek | Additionally, are their C bindings to bzr so I can use it as a library from C and other languages? | 16:08 |
| corporate_cookie | im calling BZR from cron on a RHEL4 system with a parallel install of python2.3 and 2.4. Cron reports this error: /bin/sh: bzr: command not found. However bzr works otherwise | 16:09 |
| corporate_cookie | any ideas ? : ) | 16:09 |
| rjek | What does "which bzr" say? | 16:10 |
| rjek | It may not be in the PATH of the environment that runs the cronjob. | 16:10 |
| corporate_cookie | rjek: it says /usr/bin/bzr | 16:10 |
| rjek | Try changing your cronjob to use /usr/bin/bzr rather than just bzr. If that doesn't work, it may not be able to find any Python. | 16:11 |
| corporate_cookie | the job runs as root ...whos path is -bash: /usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin | 16:11 |
| abadger1999 | Does anyone know the plan regarding bzr versions and stability? (ie: will there be a 1.0.x branch? Will 1.x have API backwards compatibility? Business as usual? Other?) | 16:11 |
| rjek | The environment that your cron runs in need not be the same as the one you get if you log in as root. | 16:12 |
| corporate_cookie | how do I determine what environment cron runs in | 16:12 |
| corporate_cookie | (my linux foo is weak) | 16:13 |
| rjek | corporate_cookie: Write a cronjob that just runs "env" - it'll email you with the environment :) | 16:13 |
| corporate_cookie | good thinking! :" ) | 16:14 |
| rjek | I know nothing of Red Hat. I've not used it in years. I know less about Python, so if this doesn't reveal the answer obviously, I'm out of ideas :) | 16:15 |
| jam | abadger1999: generally business as usuall. We've already released 1.1, and 1.2 is on the way | 16:18 |
| abadger1999 | jam: Thanks. I guess I'll be updating for Fedora but holding at 1.0 for Red Hat/CentOS then. | 16:19 |
| jam | rjek: as for C bindings, you can embed the python interpreter in your C program | 16:20 |
| jam | rjek: then you would be working in terms of PyObjects, etc | 16:20 |
| rjek | jam: Eugh. I'd rather avoid having to speak Python. And embedding Python into Lua in order to query stuff nicely sounds like a hack :) | 16:21 |
| dato | abadger1999: I think cron resets PATH to something unuseable, you'll want to give PATH a value | 16:21 |
| jam | understandable, I don't think our data objects are terribly hard, but it would seem silly to reimplement everything | 16:21 |
| rjek | For example. subversion has a nice library you can link to directly from C. | 16:22 |
| jam | rjek: sure, but it was *written* in C | 16:22 |
| rjek | jam: Well, you can bind C functions to Python. Is it not simple to bind Python functions to C? | 16:22 |
| rjek | Lua makes this pretty trivial. | 16:22 |
| rjek | I have no idea what Python's C interface is like, of course. | 16:23 |
| jam | It's interface is pretty decent | 16:23 |
| jam | IMO | 16:23 |
| jam | of course, it is up to you whether you would rather embed python | 16:23 |
| jam | or spawn a process and parse text | 16:24 |
| jam | bzrlib is a rather rich api | 16:24 |
| rjek | I'd rather use a C API, as that's then trivially used from pretty much everything. | 16:24 |
| jam | and 'bzr' is more focused on clients than scripters | 16:24 |
| rjek | Be it C, C++, Lua, or Perl. Or whatever you fancy. | 16:24 |
| jam | except then you are stuck with the C data model, etc. | 16:24 |
| jam | and string processing and memory management is horribly painful at the C level | 16:25 |
| rjek | For a slight inconvience you gain a lot of flexibility, though. | 16:25 |
| jam | anyway, /me => away for a while | 16:25 |
| * rjek shrugs, libsvn's API's pretty elegant. | 16:25 | |
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| beuno | hmmm, I just upgrade a 3GB branch to packs, and now, the repository is twice it's size. repository/obsolete_packs/ seems to be the same size as repository/packs/. Is this an expected behaviour? (bzr 1.0) | 17:53 |
| jam | beuno: you can nuke obsolete_packs/*, bzr will clean it up eventually, we only keep it around to avoid race conditions with when the OS writes out new files versus deleting old ones | 17:54 |
| beuno | jam, great, thanks. Shouldn't there be a command that you cleans it for you? | 17:55 |
| jam | At the moment, it will be done at the next "autopack" | 17:57 |
| jam | which will be approximately 10 commits from now | 17:57 |
| jam | I've posted to the list about having "bzr pack" do it automatically | 17:57 |
| jam | we could add a new command, but it seems better suited to just add it into bzr pack | 17:58 |
| beuno | yes, bzr pack seems like the most intuitive (in fact, I ran it before to see if it would solve it) | 17:58 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184097 in bzr "[1.0.0] Should not die on error if cannot open .bzr.log" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184097 | 18:00 |
| _flx | hi | 18:36 |
| _flx | is there any way when commiting with the command line to add endline in the commit message so separate two elements | 18:37 |
| _flx | ? | 18:37 |
| brilliantnut | _flx: is there a problem with opening the editor for entering your commit message? | 18:38 |
| _flx | brilliantnut, no the I would like to do it with the "-m" option | 18:38 |
| _flx | s/the/but | 18:39 |
| BasicOSX | Is there a way to get a remote bzr repository without all of the history? I just want a working copy of the bzr tree, to us, and save the disk space by not having the history | 18:43 |
| james_w | BasicOSX: I'm afraid you can't do that currently. | 18:47 |
| LarstiQ | lightweight checkout? | 18:48 |
| LeoNerd | bzr co --lightweight URL | 18:50 |
| brilliantnut | _flx: if you're on linux, then most shells will let you add a \ at the end of your line to escape the new line | 18:51 |
| LarstiQ | BasicOSX: for just a copy of the working tree, that works. But for any other bzr functionality it will have to hit the network. | 18:51 |
| _flx | brilliantnut, thx you | 18:52 |
| mtaylor | statik: I sent in the patch we were talking about | 18:53 |
| jelmer | what's the proper way to get the per-file ancestry these days? | 19:05 |
| ekimus_ | hi, is check_signatures and create_signatures some magic thing? I just can't figure out how to specify the key, or do I have to explicitely set gpg_signing_command in the corresponding locations.conf section? | 19:06 |
| ekimus_ | hmm or ist the signature stuff just used for email submissions? | 19:08 |
| Qhestion | anyone know where i can get paramiko (for sftp)? looks like the homepage is down :/ | 19:10 |
| Qhestion | ahh wait... nevermind | 19:10 |
| Qhestion | its on launchpad :) | 19:10 |
| james_w | It's obviously been to long, I can't believe I got that wrong. | 19:12 |
| james_w | Hi LarstiQ, how are you? | 19:12 |
| LarstiQ | james_w: improving, thank you. How about you? | 19:13 |
| james_w | I'm well thanks. | 19:13 |
| james_w | Do you think you'll go to the sprint? | 19:13 |
| LarstiQ | james_w: not decided yet | 19:13 |
| james_w | LarstiQ: it would be great if you were there so we have a chance to meet. | 19:15 |
| LarstiQ | james_w: you're going? | 19:16 |
| james_w | LarstiQ: hopefully, but probably only for the last couple of days. | 19:17 |
| james_w | jelmer: will you be going? | 19:18 |
| LarstiQ | james_w: cool, that's certainly something I have to keep in mind then. | 19:18 |
| jelmer | james_w: Yep, I'll be there | 19:20 |
| james_w | great. | 19:20 |
| cr3 | is bzr quicker or slower with some protocols? for example, is sftp known to be slow? | 19:26 |
| mtaylor | cr3: yes | 19:28 |
| mtaylor | cr3: sftp is _way_ slower than bzr+ssh | 19:28 |
| mtaylor | cr3: of course, there are some situations in which you still want to use sftp | 19:28 |
| mtaylor | cr3: such as when the server you are dealing with doesn't have bzr installed or has an old version installed | 19:29 |
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| deepjoy | if I want to use bzr as a server for the central repos with authentication with a relatively slow connection between the repos and the developers what format should I be using? i.e. bzr+ssh bzr+http sftp etc. | 20:12 |
| beuno | deepjoy, bzr+ssh or bzr+sftp is fine | 20:13 |
| deepjoy | also is are the repository format considerations I should be aware of | 20:14 |
| deepjoy | I'm converting my repos from CVS using cvsps plugin | 20:14 |
| deepjoy | is the default repos storage format that bzr 1.1 converts to the latest? | 20:15 |
| deepjoy | or is there some other repos format that is not the default but may be different (not necesarily better) in it's performance | 20:15 |
| beuno | deepjoy, yeap, packs, which is the format to use | 20:15 |
| deepjoy | so I gather bzr+http is still in it's nacency and using apache for ldap auth using mod_ldap is not stable yet? | 20:17 |
| deepjoy | so pack is the default on 1.1? | 20:17 |
| beuno | deepjoy, bzr+ssh is the fastest method, bzr+http isn't ready for pushing yet AFAIK | 20:20 |
| beuno | and yes, packs has been the default format since <0.92 | 20:20 |
| beuno | it has a lot of performance work done on it | 20:20 |
| beuno | so using 1.1 and bzr+ssh seems like the way to go | 20:21 |
| fullermd | No, it's existed since 0.92. Didn't get switched to default 'till 1.0, I think. | 20:21 |
| beuno | ah, could be true | 20:21 |
| beuno | 1.0 and on for sure | 20:21 |
| deepjoy | thanks | 20:25 |
| beuno | np :D | 20:25 |
| deepjoy | I was trying to get bzr+http working some time back on 1.0 and spiv pointed out how to get it working for push | 20:25 |
| deepjoy | it does do push | 20:26 |
| deepjoy | the perf is not too good yet | 20:26 |
| deepjoy | I believe there is a verb addition task in launch pad for that | 20:27 |
| beuno | ah, I haven't tried that out in a while | 20:27 |
| beuno | good to know though | 20:27 |
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| pfharlock | I have a rather dumb question, if you delete a branch from a shared repository using the os filesystem commands, is there a way to get that branch back out of the repository? | 21:17 |
| james_w | pfharlock: yes. | 21:18 |
| james_w | pfharlock: the easiest way is to install the 'heads' plugin. | 21:18 |
| pfharlock | ahhh, ok, so there isn't a built in way to do it. | 21:19 |
| dato | I think I'd be amused by the output of `heads` in my repositories, where I do zillions of `uncommits` | 21:19 |
| james_w | then run that (with an option that I forget, something like --dead), and find the one that you want, and then you should be able to 'bzr branch -rrevid:whatever another_branch new' | 21:19 |
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| fullermd | Hm. Today's bzr.dev seems to not like talking to 1.0 over bzr+ssh... | 21:59 |
| fullermd | r3191 works; 3192 fails. | 21:59 |
| dato | fullermd: there's a msg from lifeless on list about that | 22:00 |
| dato | fullermd: subject.*api break | 22:01 |
| fullermd | No, that's bzr.dev <-> older bzr.dev, not bzr.dev <-> 1.0 | 22:01 |
| dato | ah | 22:01 |
| dato | indeed, misread | 22:01 |
| fullermd | Forgot about that mail, though. | 22:02 |
| * fullermd wanders off to post a followup. | 22:02 | |
| dysinger | So I am going to keep playing with OS X bzr-svn but I have to comment that it's a PITA and not ready for the masses | 23:01 |
| dysinger | Git-svn is orders of magnitude faster and smaller on disk. | 23:01 |
| dysinger | But that is not a criticism - it's just is what it is :) | 23:02 |
| dysinger | s/it\'s/it | 23:03 |
| foom | the actual program git-svn is smaller on disk? | 23:03 |
| dysinger | My repository on Git is 181MB - with bzr-svn it's twice that. | 23:03 |
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| jelmer | dysinger: Are you using packs? | 23:04 |
| dysinger | --rich-root-packs y | 23:04 |
| dysinger | Let me get the actual numbers | 23:04 |
| fullermd | That's probably more git/bzr than git-svn/bzr-svn. | 23:04 |
| dysinger | y | 23:05 |
| dysinger | You guys totally win in the UI | 23:05 |
| dysinger | I like it better | 23:05 |
| foom | maybe bzr should just be a UI for git. :p | 23:05 |
| dysinger | no | 23:06 |
| dysinger | that would not work. | 23:06 |
| jelmer | dysinger: Afaik the last comparisons actually showed that bzr's on disk format was in the same order of size as gits | 23:06 |
| TFKyle | foom: that would kind of suck, you'd loose decent support for windows | 23:06 |
| dysinger | hmm let me check myself. | 23:06 |
| fullermd | I doubt that. Maybe an un-repack'd git... | 23:06 |
| dysinger | Yeah I just packed and pruned and GC git | 23:07 |
| dysinger | but it's the entire trunk and 2 branches thats' 181MB | 23:07 |
| jelmer | dysinger: Did you garbage collect for bzr ? | 23:07 |
| dysinger | no | 23:07 |
| dysinger | enlighten me | 23:07 |
| fullermd | In some quick testing I happened to do the other month, bzr in packs won by a little bit (5% or so) against a straight git import, but repacked git was half the size or something. | 23:08 |
| jelmer | "bzr pack" should do the packing I think | 23:08 |
| jelmer | but I'm not sure if that's all you can do to make storage more efficient | 23:08 |
| jelmer | fullermd: Did you try repacking the bzr packs? | 23:08 |
| jelmer | lifeless: ^ | 23:08 |
| lifeless | jelmer: no we haven't | 23:09 |
| lifeless | fullermd: yes thats known; its even in my email from tuesday or so about what we need to do for large projects | 23:09 |
| lifeless | fullermd: '50% storage reduction' - we have multiple answers that give better compression; just have to choose one and implement | 23:10 |
| lifeless | fullermd: and I know john is hoping to get onto that in th enext week or so | 23:10 |
| fullermd | Oh, I know. I wasn't _surprised_ by it. | 23:10 |
| jelmer | lifeless: thanks | 23:10 |
| jelmer | dysinger: out of curiosity - what's the speed difference between bzr-svn and git-svn like? | 23:11 |
| dysinger | Well i can compare both packed and make some commits and updates with "time" | 23:12 |
| dysinger | both repos with trunk and 2 branches : git packed is 187M vs bzr packed is 347M | 23:14 |
| fullermd | Really, my biggest current grump that's semi-storage-related is the inability to log multiple files at once (of which 'recursive log' is just a special case). Smaller is good, but I'm not really hurting on size anywhere important. | 23:14 |
| elmo | hey, can I whine about my bzr commit breakage again? | 23:14 |
| dysinger | so 150MB is nothing to sneeze at | 23:15 |
| elmo | bzr: ERROR: unknown kind 'missing' | 23:15 |
| elmo | with 1.0; I couldn't find any bugs about it; before I go trying to boil it down to a reprdoucable test case, does anyone have any ideas? | 23:15 |
| lifeless | elmo: file bugs always | 23:16 |
| lifeless | elmo: knowing it happened is a useful data point; reproducability is great but not as important as knowing it exists (and always include the .bzr.log snippet for the error) | 23:16 |
| lifeless | dysinger: we'll be fixing that by 1.4 I think. | 23:17 |
| elmo | lifeless: sure, but I'm leary about how much info I can include in the commit msg | 23:17 |
| elmo | err | 23:17 |
| elmo | brain hard | 23:17 |
| elmo | s/commit msg/bug/ | 23:18 |
| lifeless | elmo: nothing in the .bzr.log will have content, so unless you are naming files with your passwords :)) | 23:18 |
| lifeless | elmo: anyhow, sed FTW | 23:18 |
| dysinger | So Jelmer my latest attempt to use a clean build of Subversion 1.5 trunk has failed too. Everything works, I can use svn and all the transports (http/s, svn, ssh) but on bzr-svn I cannot use https without it blowing up. I can use http etc no problem. | 23:30 |
| dysinger | I get this -> Assertion failed: (g->gc.gc_refs != _PyGC_REFS_UNTRACKED), function instancemethod_dealloc, file Objects/classobject.c, line 2285. | 23:32 |
| dysinger | Abort trap | 23:32 |
| dysinger | :/ | 23:32 |
| dysinger | but only on https svn repos | 23:32 |
| dysinger | svn ls, co, info etc all work with 1.5 and ssl | 23:33 |
| lifeless | fullermd: you know the drill; bug or list discussion kthzbye | 23:33 |
| fullermd | Eh? For what? | 23:34 |
| lifeless | fullermd: log N files | 23:45 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184196 in bzr "BzrError: unknown kind 'missing'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184196 | 23:46 |
| fullermd | Oh. I'm pretty sure there's already at least one bug on that. And besides, everybody knows it, and I thought handling that better was one of the points of the in-progress inventory work anyway. | 23:46 |
| lifeless | fullermd: it can be supported to day; speed is orthogonal to functionality | 23:47 |
| fullermd | bug 97715 at least | 23:50 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 97715 in bzr "bzr log DIR should show changes under dir" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97715 | 23:50 |
| elmo | is anyone working on bzr support for reviewboard? | 23:54 |
| lifeless | elmo: yes | 23:56 |
| lifeless | elmo: statik's friends | 23:56 |
| elmo | k | 23:57 |
| elmo | git's interface is apparently only 150 lines or so is all | 23:57 |
| elmo | anyway | 23:57 |
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