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| awmcclain | Is there a reason why bzr for os x doesn't give any feedback during a branch operation? | 02:03 |
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| spiv | PyCon registration is open: http://us.pycon.org/2008/registration/ | 02:25 |
| spiv | awmcclain: no good reason, it's a bug | 02:25 |
| spiv | awmcclain: (a bug that happens on all platforms) | 02:26 |
| awmcclain | spiv: When I branched on linux, i got a status bar. At least when branching from svn... | 02:26 |
| spiv | awmcclain: hmm, I don't think there should be any difference between mac and linux for status bars. | 02:27 |
| awmcclain | spiv: I'll look into it. | 02:27 |
| poolie | hello kiko | 02:43 |
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| kiko | hey poolie | 02:52 |
| poolie | hi, are you home now? | 02:52 |
| guillaumebokiau | trying to install with macports, but installing macports itself doesn't seem to work. (port: command not found) | 04:16 |
| guillaumebokiau | any advice? | 04:16 |
| poolie | guillaumebokiau, i think you need to install the macports dmg | 04:19 |
| guillaumebokiau | which i did :| | 04:19 |
| poolie | guillaumebokiau, http://www.macports.org/install.php -- then you'll have a port command | 04:19 |
| poolie | hm | 04:19 |
| poolie | is it on your $PATH? | 04:19 |
| poolie | you might need to start a new terminal window? | 04:19 |
| guillaumebokiau | i even rebooted | 04:20 |
| guillaumebokiau | what is $path ? | 04:20 |
| guillaumebokiau | sorry, not very good at those things :/ | 04:20 |
| poolie | please type 'echo $PATH' | 04:21 |
| poolie | into your terminal | 04:21 |
| poolie | also, 'echo $0' | 04:22 |
| poolie | (and press enter) | 04:22 |
| guillaumebokiau | \Library\Frameworks\Python.framework\Versions\Current\bin:\bin:\sbin:\usr\bin:\usr\sbin | 04:22 |
| poolie | see, http://guide.macports.org/#installing.shell | 04:22 |
| poolie | guillaumebokiau, ok, that's probably your problem | 04:23 |
| poolie | try the instructions there | 04:23 |
| guillaumebokiau | ok, thx | 04:23 |
| poolie | guillaumebokiau, did that work? | 04:30 |
| guillaumebokiau | trying to figure this out :) | 04:30 |
| poolie | guillaumebokiau, just for curiousity, why are you using macports rather than a dmg? | 04:31 |
| poolie | did we not have one that would suit? | 04:31 |
| guillaumebokiau | isn't the dmg for ppc ? | 04:31 |
| guillaumebokiau | i'm on intel | 04:31 |
| guillaumebokiau | 10,4 | 04:31 |
| poolie | ok | 04:32 |
| poolie | yes, that's it | 04:32 |
| igc | the dmg should be universal I think | 04:32 |
| poolie | i mean, i wondered if that was the problem | 04:32 |
| poolie | we need someone with a intel 10.4 mac to rebuild it | 04:32 |
| guillaumebokiau | i tried with the ppc dmg anyway, but it didn't work | 04:33 |
| igc | guillaumebokiau: yes, checking again, the 10.4 installer is only ppc only right now sorry | 04:36 |
| guillaumebokiau | there's no other way to install it? | 04:37 |
| guillaumebokiau | than with macports? | 04:37 |
| igc | guillaumebokiau: running straight from source is really easy actually | 04:37 |
| igc | simply untar and put the directory on your path | 04:38 |
| igc | you'll need to install Python 2.4 or 2.5 separately | 04:38 |
| guillaumebokiau | installed that | 04:38 |
| igc | in not already installed | 04:38 |
| igc | s/in/if/ | 04:38 |
| guillaumebokiau | er, what's my 'path' ? | 04:38 |
| guillaumebokiau | (i'm really new to all this) | 04:39 |
| igc | it's where your terminal looks for commands you type | 04:39 |
| guillaumebokiau | that : \Library\Frameworks\Python.framework\Versions\Current\bin:\bin:\sbin:\usr\bin:\usr\sbin ? | 04:39 |
| igc | you can create a file in your home directory to set it each time you start a terminal session | 04:39 |
| bob2 | guillaumebokiau: when you type "bzr", your shell looks in each of the directorys in the PATH variable (:-seperated) for that command | 04:40 |
| igc | without setting a path just yet, let's test it works | 04:40 |
| igc | unpack the tar.gz | 04:41 |
| igc | change to the created directory and .. | 04:41 |
| igc | type "./bzr version" | 04:41 |
| guillaumebokiau | have a hard time following. where do I unpack? | 04:42 |
| igc | anywhere you like ... | 04:42 |
| igc | If you double-click ... | 04:42 |
| guillaumebokiau | ok, it's on my desktop :) | 04:42 |
| igc | cool | 04:43 |
| igc | in a terminal, change into that directory | 04:43 |
| igc | try "./bzr version" | 04:43 |
| igc | guillaumebokiau: did that work? | 04:45 |
| guillaumebokiau | hang on :) | 04:46 |
| igc | the directory to change into is something like "Desktop/bzr-1.1" | 04:46 |
| guillaumebokiau | ok, i'm there | 04:47 |
| guillaumebokiau | ~/Desktop/bzr-1.1 | 04:47 |
| igc | great | 04:48 |
| igc | does "./bzr" work? | 04:48 |
| guillaumebokiau | yes! | 04:48 |
| igc | sweet | 04:48 |
| guillaumebokiau | cool | 04:48 |
| igc | now let's put it on your path | 04:48 |
| igc | type this: | 04:48 |
| guillaumebokiau | yeah | 04:48 |
| igc | PATH=~/Desktop/bzr-1.1:$PATH | 04:49 |
| igc | then change to another directory and try "bzr" | 04:49 |
| guillaumebokiau | it"s on the path when i echo it | 04:49 |
| guillaumebokiau | working | 04:50 |
| guillaumebokiau | great | 04:50 |
| igc | ok, let's make it permanent | 04:50 |
| igc | type "cd" to return to your home directory | 04:50 |
| guillaumebokiau | done | 04:50 |
| guillaumebokiau | should i copy the folder there? | 04:50 |
| igc | with your text editor, create a file called ".prfile" if it doesn't already exist | 04:51 |
| igc | oops ... | 04:51 |
| igc | make that .profile | 04:51 |
| igc | inside it put this text ... | 04:51 |
| igc | PATH=~/Desktop/bzr-1.1:$PATH | 04:52 |
| igc | export PATH | 04:52 |
| igc | (that's it) | 04:52 |
| igc | to test ... | 04:52 |
| igc | start another Terminal, in a tab or new Window | 04:52 |
| igc | type "bzr" | 04:52 |
| igc | sound ok? | 04:52 |
| guillaumebokiau | bzr command not found :( | 04:53 |
| igc | ok ... | 04:54 |
| igc | type "echo $PATH" | 04:54 |
| guillaumebokiau | it's not in it | 04:54 |
| bob2 | maybe ~/.bashrc would be better, .profile is only sourced on "login" | 04:54 |
| igc | good point | 04:54 |
| bob2 | depending on what os x considers login to be | 04:55 |
| guillaumebokiau | i hav a .bash_profile file | 04:55 |
| igc | guillaumebokiau: try putting those 2 lines in there then | 04:56 |
| guillaumebokiau | k | 04:56 |
| guillaumebokiau | ok, i got it working | 04:57 |
| guillaumebokiau | pfew | 04:57 |
| igc | good | 04:57 |
| guillaumebokiau | i think the correct line was PATH="~/.bzr-1.1:${PATH}" | 04:57 |
| guillaumebokiau | anyway, i thanks a lot | 04:58 |
| igc | that ok | 04:58 |
| igc | either syntax should work | 04:58 |
| guillaumebokiau | you saved me :) | 04:58 |
| igc | let us know if you need any more help | 04:58 |
| igc | no problem | 04:58 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184733 in bzr "Internal error running bzr selftest for bzr 1.1 on MacOS X 10.5.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184733 | 05:15 |
| guillaumebokiau | where does bazaar save local copies ? | 05:24 |
| poolie | into .bzr in the top of the branch | 05:24 |
| guillaumebokiau | not sure you understood the question :) if I run bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~manfre/xpattern/xpattern-1.0 where does it land ? | 05:25 |
| guillaumebokiau | ah, found | 05:26 |
| guillaumebokiau | ok, sorry, i'm officially stupid | 05:26 |
| poolie | right, into your working directory | 05:27 |
| poolie | no problem, questions are welcome | 05:27 |
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| eean | how come it says Unable to load plugin 'bzr_svn_0_4_6' from '/home/ian/.bazaar/plugins' ? | 05:52 |
| eean | when trying to do a bzr svn clone | 05:52 |
| eean | I do have the plugin there | 05:52 |
| spiv | eean: look in ~/.bzr.log | 05:53 |
| spiv | eean: it should have a more detailed error | 05:54 |
| eean | ImportError: The Subversion plugin must be installed as bzrlib.plugins.svn not bzrlib.plugins.bzr_svn_0_4_6 | 05:54 |
| eean | so I'll rename the directory I guess | 05:54 |
| spiv | Right. | 05:54 |
| eean | there it goes | 05:55 |
| eean | I hear it doesn't have a memory leak anymore | 05:55 |
| eean | appears so, so far | 05:55 |
| eean | hmm | 05:56 |
| eean | it is increasing in memory steadily :/ | 05:56 |
| spiv | eean: it depends on how new your subversion bindings for python are | 05:57 |
| eean | aaaah | 05:57 |
| eean | spiv: do you happen to know how new they have to be? | 05:58 |
| eean | it is not using crazy amounts of memory like it used to, but its certainly still leaking. | 05:58 |
| spiv | eean: SVN version of the as of about or week or so ago, IIRC | 05:59 |
| eean | that would make sense that the subversion bindings would be to blame, I didn't understand how a python script could leak. so its probably something in the c bindings | 05:59 |
| eean | haha crap | 05:59 |
| spiv | eean: I think the bzr-svn README links to the relevant bug | 05:59 |
| eean | riddell blogged before then that it had been fixed in bzr-svn | 05:59 |
| spiv | eean: I think newer bzr-svn tries to workaround the worst of it, but obviously it can only do so much... | 05:59 |
| eean | I see | 06:00 |
| spiv | eean: yeah, see the first part of the FAQ in the bzr-svn source :) | 06:00 |
| spiv | "bzr-svn can use a lot of memory cloning big branches when older | 06:00 |
| spiv | versions of the python-subversion bindings are used. This memory leak | 06:00 |
| spiv | has been fixed in the trunk of Subversion (r28544) and has been | 06:00 |
| spiv | proposed for inclusion in Subversion 1.4.7. | 06:00 |
| spiv | " | 06:00 |
| eean | oh wow, its subversion itself to blame? | 06:01 |
| spiv | eean: it's possible this fix has already been included hardy, I haven't checked... | 06:01 |
| eean | well I use gutsy | 06:01 |
| spiv | eean: right, the python bindings are made by the subversion guys. | 06:01 |
| eean | ah ok | 06:01 |
| eean | I can probably make due if I quit and redo every 100000 commits | 06:02 |
| spiv | Yeah :) | 06:02 |
| eean | before it would eat all my memory at about 1000 | 06:03 |
| eean | git svn is giving me shit, so this is a good time to switch ;) | 06:03 |
| spiv | :) | 06:04 |
| eean | I guess this bug has probably made bzr svn clone pretty robust at restarting | 06:05 |
| eean | git svn couldn't deal with the svn server timing out, after about 30 minutes of cloning :/ | 06:05 |
| eean | pfft, or not. "bzr: ERROR: sqlite3.OperationalError: SQL logic error or missing database" | 06:07 |
| spiv | eean: ooh, I haven't seen that one before. | 06:08 |
| eean | http://pastie.caboo.se/141399 | 06:08 |
| eean | on resuming | 06:08 |
| spiv | eean: could you file a bug report? I expect jelmer would like to see that. | 06:08 |
| eean | /dev/sda8 44G 42G 1.7M 100% /home | 06:08 |
| eean | might explain it :) | 06:08 |
| spiv | eean: ah :) | 06:08 |
| eean | will I be able to share this checkout with other devs? | 06:24 |
| eean | I'm kind of worried that it appears to be downloading into ~/.bazaar | 06:24 |
| spiv | eean: yes | 06:25 |
| spiv | eean: the stuff in .bazaar is just a cache of the mapping between data the SVN repo and the data converted to bzr | 06:25 |
| spiv | eean: if the cache is missing or incomplete, bzr-svn will just regenerate it as needed. | 06:26 |
| eeanm | bah my laptop power cord got loose | 06:30 |
| eeanm | spiv: did you say anything after 'yes'? | 06:30 |
| spiv | eeanm: I did, I'll paste: | 06:30 |
| spiv | 17:25 < spiv> eean: the stuff in .bazaar is just a cache of the mapping between data the SVN repo and the data converted to bzr | 06:30 |
| spiv | 17:26 < spiv> eean: if the cache is missing or incomplete, bzr-svn will just regenerate it as needed. | 06:30 |
| eeanm | um that mapping the hard part | 06:31 |
| eeanm | um *isn't that mapping the hard part | 06:31 |
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| eeanm | at least when you're cloning a 2.5k LOC, 200 commit module from a SVN with >700000 commits | 06:35 |
| bob2 | yes, but people branching from your bzr repository won't need it, all they need is in the bzr repository | 06:35 |
| eeanm | the mapping is a big chunk :| | 06:35 |
| spiv | eeanm: people only need the mapping if they want to use the SVN repo | 06:36 |
| eeanm | well yea | 06:36 |
| spiv | eeanm: I can e.g. take your bzr branch, and make a branch off that, make some commits, and send those back to you, all without touching the upstream SVN repo. | 06:37 |
| eeanm | suppose I could do it that way, but it'd be nice if folks could push to svn themselves | 06:37 |
| spiv | They'll need the mapping then. | 06:37 |
| eeanm | won't be such a big deal once this memory leak fix is availabe | 06:38 |
| spiv | You can probably share the cache from your .bazaar directory. | 06:38 |
| eeanm | sounds like bzr has their act more together then git, we try publishing a git svn repo, someone commited something that they didn't end up pushing to SVN, it totally screwed it up | 06:39 |
| eeanm | would be nice to have feature branching in bzr that could be easily synced with svn | 06:39 |
| eeanm | (that's what we were trying to do with git) | 06:41 |
| poolie | eeanm, well, that should work through bzr-svn | 06:42 |
| eeanm | dang the cache is up to 771 megabytes | 06:57 |
| poolie | how big is the svn repo? | 06:58 |
| eeanm | >700000 commits | 06:59 |
| eeanm | 764k | 06:59 |
| eeanm | I'm up to 421k | 06:59 |
| eeanm | sqlite> select count( * ) from changed_path; | 07:07 |
| eeanm | 3578513 | 07:07 |
| eeanm | probably has something to do with it :) | 07:08 |
| eean | 529215/764151 woot | 07:25 |
| * igc dinner | 07:54 | |
| eean | the svn clone is soo near completion, and now its just hanging apparently :) | 08:33 |
| eean | erm | 08:33 |
| eean | :( | 08:33 |
| AfC | eean: Is the Subversion repository in question public? If it is, I'm sure people will be willing to attempt to replicate the problem. | 08:38 |
| eean | yea, its KDE | 08:39 |
| eean | ah ok cool | 08:39 |
| eean | nevermind | 08:39 |
| eean | now its "analyzing layout" | 08:39 |
| eean | about 4 minutes there when it didn't respond, I was worried :) | 08:40 |
| eean | heh analyzing layout is going to take an hour or so it looks like. at least it doesn't leak memory. | 08:40 |
| eean | ah no, that's not true, more like 15 minutes I bet, its already 1/7 done | 08:41 |
| lifeless | hi | 08:49 |
| lifeless | jelmer: sorry, missed that in backlog, only saw your ^^, what was it ? | 08:55 |
| AfC | eean: You might want to reply to poolie's RFC about finer grained progress reporting on the mailing list today and note your experience of long waits without feedback | 08:56 |
| asabil | hi all | 09:30 |
| lifeless | hi | 09:32 |
| lifeless | abentley: hi | 10:43 |
| lifeless | abentley: how is sydney :) | 10:43 |
| abentley | Quite nice. | 10:43 |
| abentley | Weather's definitely superior to Toronto's. | 10:43 |
| abentley | Although pretty similar to Toronto in summertime. | 10:44 |
| thumper | lifeless: it is hot and muggy | 10:44 |
| thumper | too hot and too muggy | 10:44 |
| thumper | but that's from my Dunedin point of view | 10:44 |
| abentley | This is the first sprint I've ever done without you, though, which is a bit wierd. | 10:44 |
| abentley | thumper: Toronto in the summertime can be quite muggy, too. We're on the edge of Lake Ontario, one of the Great Lakes. | 10:45 |
| lifeless | thumper: unedin is easily as humid; its the heat that does it | 10:45 |
| muffinresearch | Greetings chaps. | 10:49 |
| muffinresearch | Are the London sprint dates set in stone? Just it clashes with SXSWi in part. | 10:51 |
| muffinresearch | Though in any case I would try a pop along on the Monday if I can | 10:51 |
| thumper | muffinresearch: what is SXSWi? | 10:52 |
| muffinresearch | south by south west | 10:52 |
| muffinresearch | http://sxsw.com | 10:52 |
| muffinresearch | Is coming to the sprint, a good idea for people who want to start getting more involved? | 10:56 |
| asabil | http://ifaedi.insa-lyon.fr/~asabil/bzr-viz-tags.png | 10:58 |
| muffinresearch | Or is it more of a closed event for current core developers? | 11:00 |
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| === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell | ||
| eean | does bzr svn not follow svn moves? | 13:44 |
| * eean looks at the website again | 13:44 | |
| jrydberg_ | svn does not have move | 13:45 |
| eean | um, yes it does | 13:46 |
| jrydberg_ | it has copy, iirc. | 13:46 |
| eean | and move | 13:46 |
| eean | but anyways | 13:46 |
| eean | its possible either way | 13:46 |
| Akheron | it has sime kind of add with history? | 13:46 |
| eean | does bzr not follow them? | 13:46 |
| eean | Akheron: yes | 13:46 |
| jelmer | eean: svn only has copy+delete | 13:47 |
| eean | that sounds awfully like moving to me | 13:47 |
| eean | and there is a svn move command | 13:47 |
| jelmer | eean: in order to be able to convert a copy+delete to a rename you have to prove there is only one copy of a file and that the original was removed | 13:47 |
| eean | I don't care if its seen as a rename or not | 13:47 |
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| jelmer | "svn move" is an alias for "svn copy"+"svn delete" | 13:48 |
| eean | but it thinks this 8 month old project is only a day old | 13:48 |
| eean | since it was copied+deleted yesterday | 13:48 |
| jelmer | it should follow copies of branches | 13:48 |
| jelmer | (if you copy /trunk to /tags/2.0 it should recognize that) | 13:49 |
| eean | ah ok, well it didn't. I'll double check the svn log | 13:49 |
| jelmer | is this a public repository? | 13:50 |
| eean | yes | 13:50 |
| eean | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdemultimedia/dragonplayer | 13:50 |
| eean | well svn log tracks its history through all the reneames | 13:51 |
| jelmer | ah, the KDE repository | 13:51 |
| eean | this project is entirely post-CVS if that's what you're thinking :) | 13:52 |
| eean | I heard that conversion messed some things up | 13:52 |
| jelmer | At the moment the copy tracking only works for the current "branching scheme" | 13:52 |
| eean | ah | 13:52 |
| jelmer | by default that's the standard /trunk ; branches/* ; tags/* structure | 13:52 |
| asabil | jelmer: is that what you wanted : http://ifaedi.insa-lyon.fr/~asabil/bzr-viz-tags.png ? | 13:53 |
| eean | jelmer: can you add this as a known problem? | 13:53 |
| jelmer | eean: We're trying to make that deal with other situations as well, but that won't happen until 0.5.0 | 13:53 |
| eean | cause I just wasted 3 hours last night, restarting bzr svn constantly :| | 13:53 |
| jelmer | eean: There's already a bug for it | 13:53 |
| asabil | (iirc I had a discussion yesterday with you and Schierbeck) | 13:54 |
| eean | I mean, on the website | 13:54 |
| jelmer | asabil: Ah, that looks quite nice | 13:54 |
| jelmer | eean: will do, thanks | 13:54 |
| asabil | jelmer: want a branch to give it a try? | 13:55 |
| eean | cool thank you | 13:55 |
| jelmer | asabil: any chance you can send an email to the bzr-gtk list? | 13:55 |
| asabil | jelmer: I am not subscribed :/ | 13:55 |
| jelmer | asabil: Should be easy to do :-) Otherwise I can manually approve your email | 13:55 |
| asabil | jelmer: I was subscribed a while ago | 13:56 |
| asabil | but the list is very high traffic for me | 13:56 |
| jelmer | asabil: it's a lot quieter these days :-/ | 13:56 |
| eean | jelmer: do you plan on optimizing how you use the sqlite database? I suppose personally I don't optimize until after I'm finished, so I can't blame you for not. :) | 13:56 |
| eean | cause for KDE its 1.9gigs | 13:57 |
| jelmer | eean: the focus so far has mostly been on correctness | 13:57 |
| jelmer | eean: hopefully we can cache less in the near future | 13:57 |
| rjek | corrections is paramount: performance is a bonus. Especially in this sort of product. | 13:58 |
| eean | right | 13:58 |
| rjek | s/corrections/correctness/ | 13:58 |
| asabil | jelmer: https://code.launchpad.net/~asabil/bzr-gtk/viz-tags-fancy | 14:04 |
| asabil | jelmer: please feel free to mail the list about it, if you want | 14:04 |
| asabil | I am busy with other things right now sorry | 14:04 |
| asabil | I edited the branch summary to point to the screenshot | 14:05 |
| schierbeck | asabil: hello! | 14:32 |
| asabil | hey schierbeck | 14:33 |
| asabil | schierbeck: https://code.launchpad.net/~asabil/bzr-gtk/viz-tags-fancy | 14:33 |
| schierbeck | i've just seen it, great job! | 14:33 |
| schierbeck | are you on the mailing list? | 14:33 |
| asabil | nop schierbeck | 14:35 |
| asabil | please feel free to mail the list about it if you want | 14:35 |
| asabil | and thanks :) | 14:35 |
| schierbeck | i'm currently looking into some small changes, like decreasing the font size, having the tags stack horizontally so they're all visible, and using a single color for all tags | 14:36 |
| asabil | decreasing the font size is as simple as | 14:37 |
| asabil | tag_layout.set_markup("<small>" + tag + "</small>") | 14:38 |
| asabil | instead of tag_layout.set_text(...) | 14:38 |
| asabil | (but am not sure if you want to use tags) | 14:38 |
| asabil | making the tags stack horizontally is a matter of changing x0 and leaving y0 fixed | 14:39 |
| schierbeck | asabil: ok, i've made a few changes, they should be at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr-gtk/bzr-gtk/viz-tags | 15:05 |
| asabil | schierbeck: did you try the code with many tags ? | 15:10 |
| asabil | there is too much space between the tags I think | 15:10 |
| schierbeck | asabil: only with two -- i'll check it out now | 15:10 |
| asabil | but it looks nicer indeed | 15:11 |
| asabil | there is just one issue | 15:11 |
| asabil | I am not sure about using markups | 15:11 |
| schierbeck | yeah, it screws up | 15:11 |
| asabil | as it might blow up if ^evil^ developers decide to use pango markup in their tags :D | 15:11 |
| schierbeck | asabil: we'll just escape the tag text | 15:12 |
| schierbeck | we do that with the summary already | 15:12 |
| asabil | if it is just about making the text smaller | 15:12 |
| schierbeck | no, it's also about tooltips and such | 15:12 |
| asabil | you can set the font directly | 15:12 |
| asabil | oh ok | 15:12 |
| cr3 | how can I apply a bzr diff between releases 239 and 240 for example? | 15:13 |
| luks | "apply"? | 15:13 |
| cr3 | bzr revert -r239..240? | 15:14 |
| dato | cr3: bzr merge -r 239..240 | 15:14 |
| dato | or -r 240..239, depending on what you want | 15:14 |
| cr3 | dato: cheers, exactly what I was looking for | 15:15 |
| ubotu | New bug: #183821 in bzr-svn "bzr branch fails with AssertionError in parse_revid_property" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183821 | 15:16 |
| schierbeck | asabil: try pulling again | 15:17 |
| schierbeck | it seems to be working now | 15:18 |
| asabil | imho it looks better | 15:18 |
| asabil | :) | 15:19 |
| schierbeck | asabil: would you be able to make the label have a single, common color? | 15:19 |
| schierbeck | like a yellow, post-it-ish one? | 15:19 |
| asabil | I am not sure if it is good idea | 15:19 |
| schierbeck | i think it would be more aesthetically pleasing | 15:20 |
| asabil | so we need to decide on a color then | 15:20 |
| schierbeck | yup | 15:20 |
| asabil | a hardcode color :p | 15:20 |
| schierbeck | :D | 15:20 |
| fullermd | You could make it a red/blue offset, and sell 30-cent cardboard/gel glasses, so people can see them in 3-D! | 15:21 |
| schierbeck | :x | 15:21 |
| schierbeck | there may lie a few usability issues right there... :) | 15:22 |
| schierbeck | although it would be kick-ass! | 15:22 |
| fullermd | I can just see the reviews, though... "I liked bzr overall, but it felt like the tags were attacking me." | 15:23 |
| schierbeck | fuck, i always seem to get excited about these projects when i'm studying... my exam is on wednesday! | 15:23 |
| fullermd | Heck, that's _days_ away... plenty of time ;> | 15:24 |
| schierbeck | fullermd: we'd still be less scary than git... | 15:24 |
| fullermd | Yeah. git would be 3-d, but would sneak up from behind you. | 15:24 |
| schierbeck | yup, and it would hold you down until you iterated all available git commands | 15:26 |
| jelmer | schierbeck: That sounds familiar... | 15:26 |
| fullermd | "Say 'git-fmt-merge-msg'! *SLAP* SAY 'git-fmt-merge-msg'!!!" | 15:27 |
| jelmer | for some reason the time I'm most productive is the days before I have a deadline or an exam or something | 15:27 |
| schierbeck | jelmer: me too, it's just that i'm not studying | 15:27 |
| schierbeck | everything else seems so damn interesting in comparison! | 15:27 |
| fullermd | Well, I've got this project you could do some work on... would cure that little problem RIGHT up :p | 15:28 |
| schierbeck | zzzzzZZZzzz | 15:28 |
| schierbeck | huh.. what? | 15:28 |
| schierbeck | :) | 15:29 |
| jelmer | :-) | 15:30 |
| schierbeck | jelmer: have you checked out my additions to asabil's whoop-cake awesome work? | 15:30 |
| schierbeck | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr-gtk/bzr-gtk/viz-tags | 15:30 |
| jelmer | not yet | 15:30 |
| schierbeck | it's on the team repo, so you guys can write to it | 15:31 |
| jelmer | thanks, will have a look | 15:31 |
| schierbeck | :) | 15:31 |
| asabil | schierbeck: you can pull from my branch | 15:34 |
| asabil | the colour is yellow now | 15:34 |
| schierbeck | cool! | 15:36 |
| schierbeck | asabil: that looks great! i've merged it into the ~bzr-gtk branch | 15:38 |
| schierbeck | you should be able to pull | 15:38 |
| jelmer | schierbeck: ? Your branch you mean? | 15:38 |
| schierbeck | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr-gtk/bzr-gtk/viz-tags | 15:39 |
| Bwoaas | Hi all. I have a question regarding 'commit --local' in 0.90.0. When I use it, I keep getting conflicts, and now I am wondering if I am using it in the correct way. | 15:48 |
| Bwoaas | Currently I do: | 15:48 |
| Bwoaas | bzr co sftp://[snip] | 15:48 |
| Bwoaas | bzr ci --local | 15:48 |
| Bwoaas | bzr ci | 15:48 |
| Bwoaas | and this is where I get conflicts | 15:48 |
| asabil | schierbeck: can you pull again please ? | 15:48 |
| schierbeck | asabil: sure | 15:49 |
| asabil | not very sure if it looks better | 15:49 |
| asabil | fell free to test it | 15:49 |
| asabil | also maybe you want to delete the tag that I added and forgot to remove : | 15:49 |
| asabil | :D | 15:49 |
| asabil | the Woot tag | 15:49 |
| schierbeck | cool! | 15:50 |
| schierbeck | the holes could be a bit bigger, though | 15:50 |
| schierbeck | jelmer: new patch sent to the ml, it's pretty trivial | 15:50 |
| asabil | schierbeck: they don't look nice when bigger | 15:50 |
| asabil | maybe you can try | 15:51 |
| schierbeck | ok | 15:51 |
| schierbeck | asabil: okay, i've made them a bit larger | 15:57 |
| schierbeck | pull them in | 15:57 |
| asabil | yep that's better :D | 15:57 |
| schierbeck | do you think we can adjust the position of the hole? | 15:58 |
| schierbeck | it's just a tad too high | 15:58 |
| asabil | I think it looks perfect to me | 15:58 |
| asabil | it is right in the middle | 15:58 |
| schierbeck | yeah, could be i'm wrong -- such things depend on the screen and whatnot | 15:58 |
| asabil | oO how can it be high ? | 15:58 |
| schierbeck | asabil: many such things are psychological -- sometimes you need to bend things to make them look even | 15:59 |
| asabil | :/ | 15:59 |
| schierbeck | :) | 15:59 |
| asabil | oh and btw, I am not sure you needed a bzr merge | 16:00 |
| asabil | you could have used bzr pull | 16:00 |
| schierbeck | nah, you forgot to pull my merger | 16:00 |
| schierbeck | i tried | 16:00 |
| asabil | because there was no divergence | 16:00 |
| schierbeck | look at the graph -- i had already merged with your branch once, hence there was a revision in my branch that wasn't in yours | 16:01 |
| asabil | oh ok sorry | 16:02 |
| asabil | didn't notice | 16:02 |
| schierbeck | np :) | 16:27 |
| ubotu | New bug: #178108 in bzr-svn "Implement SvnRepository.find_branches()" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178108 | 16:46 |
| schierbeck | asabil: do you think the branch is ready to be merged into trunk? | 16:59 |
| asabil | schierbeck: yep, I don't see any big issue | 16:59 |
| schierbeck | then i'll make a merge request | 16:59 |
| asabil | cool :) | 17:00 |
| asabil | next time I might make the tags corner rounded :D | 17:00 |
| * asabil is a bling addict | 17:00 | |
| schierbeck | asabil: i thought about it, too -- it would be cool | 17:04 |
| schierbeck | btw, sign up for the mailing list | 17:04 |
| fullermd | And it should be a cube! That you can spin! | 17:05 |
| asabil | schierbeck: the ML is too high traffic for me | 17:05 |
| asabil | schierbeck: I was subscribed | 17:05 |
| asabil | fullermd: lol | 17:06 |
| schierbeck | it's not that high traffic atm... | 17:06 |
| asabil | ok ok I will subscribe again | 17:06 |
| jelmer | it's about 40 messages per month these days | 17:06 |
| lifeless | jelmer: hi, sorry I haven't gotten you on pqm yet | 17:06 |
| jelmer | 'morning lifeless | 17:07 |
| jelmer | lifeless: no hurry; would be nice to be able to use pqm at some point though | 17:07 |
| lifeless | jelmer: I'm in London this week; so we can chat in the same timezone (FSVO same) | 17:07 |
| jelmer | ah, ok | 17:08 |
| asabil | schierbeck: I am subscribed | 17:09 |
| asabil | to bazaar@lists..... | 17:09 |
| schierbeck | nah, it's bzr-gtk@lists.canonical.com | 17:10 |
| asabil | ah oki | 17:12 |
| asabil | done | 17:14 |
| welterde | is there a command to view the gpg-signature of a commit? | 17:28 |
| jelmer | welterde: not yet afaik | 17:30 |
| welterde | jelmer: hmm... how strong is the authentication of the commits? eg. do they depend on a hash of the commit-data, on the previous commits? | 17:32 |
| welterde | (like git for example) | 17:32 |
| jelmer | welterde: afaik both | 17:34 |
| welterde | hmm.. so manipulating a older revision would be detected? | 17:35 |
| jelmer | yes | 17:35 |
| jelmer | at the moment, there isn't any functionality to check signatures though | 17:35 |
| welterde | but gpg-signatures are checked afair, or not? | 17:37 |
| jelmer | I don't think they are either | 17:37 |
| welterde | ah.. is an extra plugin | 17:38 |
| lifeless | welterde: commit signatures do not transitively verify older history | 17:50 |
| lifeless | welterde: this is deliberate | 17:50 |
| lifeless | welterde: as it allows partial history environments to be verified | 17:51 |
| yacc | Just wondering, is it possible to store the whoami value on a per project basis? | 17:53 |
| lifeless | sure; you can probably set it in branch.conf; or url based in locations.conf | 17:56 |
| welterde | lifeless: so no protection against a manipulated bzr branch? | 17:58 |
| lifeless | welterde: uh, sure there is protection; just sign the commits for the history as well | 17:58 |
| welterde | hmm... yeah... but besides that there is none? | 17:59 |
| lifeless | I'm not sure what you're getting at | 18:00 |
| welterde | if someones stops by and manipulates the unsigned history, that wouldnt be detected, right? | 18:01 |
| welterde | (manipulates in a way the checkout changes) | 18:02 |
| welterde | does bzr leak ip-addresses on any operation? | 18:14 |
| lifeless | welterde: 'leak'? | 18:19 |
| welterde | lifeless: like, being noted somewhere | 18:19 |
| welterde | inside of commits or something like that | 18:19 |
| lifeless | it may record them in your !/.bzr.log; and the commiter name is derived from your username and hostname by default | 18:20 |
| welterde | which can be changed with bzr whoami | 18:20 |
| lifeless | right | 18:22 |
| welterde | lifeless: but signing one commit doesnt automaticly "sign" all of the commits before :/ | 18:23 |
| lifeless | right | 18:23 |
| lifeless | you can bzr sign-my-commits though if you haven't been signing them | 18:23 |
| welterde | and when the person, of whom the commits are, is not reachable? | 18:24 |
| welterde | thus cant sign his commits? | 18:24 |
| welterde | lifeless: and can i sign commits which just have a name? | 18:27 |
| welterde | eg. from a cvs-import | 18:27 |
| lifeless | sure; I'm off to dinner now, have fun | 18:28 |
| Peng | welterde: You might also want to change your bazaar.conf/locations.conf/branch.conf to require signatures. See the docs. | 18:31 |
| welterde | Peng: yeah... know that | 18:32 |
| Enquest | is there a way to get some stats out of bazaar... Like how many lines of code has been changed the last day or period? | 18:52 |
| james_w | Enquest: apart from 'bzr info' there is nothing that I know of. | 18:54 |
| Enquest | maybe that would be a cool thing to get into it. | 18:54 |
| james_w | However the example you mention could be approximated by piping something like 'bzr diff -rdate:yesterday' to diffstat | 18:55 |
| james_w | I agree it would be interesting. It would work very nicely as a plugin I expect. | 18:56 |
| beuno | Enquest, and there is a stats plugins which shows mostly per-user stuff: http://bzr.arbash-meinel.com/plugins/stats | 18:56 |
| elmo | Copying repository content as tarball... | 19:31 |
| elmo | bzr: ERROR: Tags not supported by BzrBranch5('file:///home/james/scratch/trunk/'); you may be able to use bzr upgrade --dirstate-tags. | 19:31 |
| elmo | why does bzr hate me? | 19:31 |
| fullermd | It's your shoes. | 19:32 |
| elmo | wtf | 19:42 |
| elmo | if I rsync the entire dir, and bzr branch locally it works | 19:42 |
| elmo | bzr makes me CRY | 19:42 |
| Peng | elmo: Bzr version? Smart server? Shared repo? | 19:43 |
| fullermd | Smart server, I suspect. | 19:43 |
| elmo | bzr 1.0, bzr+ssh (so I guess smart?), and yes, shared repo I think | 19:44 |
| fullermd | An incarnation of bug 173002. | 19:44 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 173002 in bzr "Branching from hpss doesn't preserve non-repository formats" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173002 | 19:44 |
| Peng | Ah. | 19:44 |
| Peng | Does that affect bzr+http too? | 19:44 |
| fullermd | I presume it affects bzr+anything. | 19:45 |
| elmo | shall I followup to the bug? | 19:45 |
| fullermd | I dunno why your bzr 1.0 would try to make a branch5 branch, though. | 19:45 |
| fullermd | It should go with the default, which is branch6. | 19:46 |
| fullermd | Please. | 19:46 |
| Peng | You may have been the person who said "no" last time I asked, but is there an easy way to "upgrade" from branc6 to branch5? | 19:48 |
| Peng | branch6* | 19:48 |
| elmo | I didn't create the repo on the other end | 19:48 |
| fullermd | You can pull. It may even not bother giving you an error if there are no tags. | 19:48 |
| dysinger | Heh! morning. | 19:51 |
| dysinger | Anyone in here on OS X Leopard? (I presume most of you are on Ubuntu/Debian.) | 19:52 |
| dysinger | Jelmer I updated the wiki page several times last week. I never did get it 100% right. Hopefully I can keep bugging people on Leopard to try it out.... | 19:53 |
| dysinger | (it being bzr-svn) | 19:53 |
| elmo | bah. sorry, I somehow ended up on gutsy bzr instead of 1.0 | 19:53 |
| elmo | 1.0 works | 19:53 |
| fullermd | Well, 1.0 works by coincidence. | 19:53 |
| fullermd | It happens to use branch6 in its default format, so you don't hit the same problem. | 19:54 |
| Peng | God, Canonical owns our souls. Bazaar, Ubuntu, Launchpad... | 19:54 |
| fullermd | It's till a bug that it doesn't preserve the remote format. | 19:54 |
| elmo | fullermd: ah, ok - so still follow up? | 19:54 |
| dato | Peng: and that is ontopic how? | 19:54 |
| Peng | dato: It's not. :) | 19:54 |
| fullermd | He's fishing for bribes to keep quiet about it. | 19:54 |
| fullermd | Maybe the common criticism is wrong; bzr needs MORE format changes, to keep those sort of bugs in the forefront and high on the priority stack ;) | 19:55 |
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| schierbeck | jelmer: ping | 20:15 |
| ubotu | New bug: #184898 in bzr "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'abort'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184898 | 20:25 |
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| welterde | are gpg-signatures pushed yet? | 21:19 |
| welterde | *over existing non-signed commits | 21:21 |
| BasicOSX | Is there a way to test bzr's email plugin? I think my upstream smtp server is rejecting relaying, but I want to confirm. Some sort of debug output from the plugin? | 22:24 |
| james_w | BasicOSX: you could look in ~/.bzr.log | 22:30 |
| igc | morning | 22:50 |
| luislavena | hello everybody. | 23:00 |
| luislavena | is there a way (simpler) to change the commit messages? (4 or 5 revisions) | 23:00 |
| aklaver | I asked yesterday about the location of the latest debs. Set my repositories to PPA. The problem is there does not seem to be a *.deb for Dapper. | 23:01 |
| jelmer | dysinger: thanks for the wiki updates | 23:03 |
| dysinger | jelmer np - I just wish it worked perfectly - | 23:03 |
| jelmer | dysinger: what's not working? | 23:04 |
| dysinger | for some reason ssl svn access through bzr dosen't work | 23:04 |
| dysinger | neon installs, svn 1.5 installs, svn 1.5 + ssl works | 23:04 |
| dysinger | but not bzr-svn ssl | 23:04 |
| jelmer | even using the svn+https:// prefix? | 23:04 |
| dysinger | n | 23:04 |
| dysinger | I am just hoping for more people trying it soon. | 23:05 |
| dysinger | It dumps out of python. | 23:05 |
| jelmer | oh, what error? | 23:05 |
| dysinger | some stack trace - I didn't study it closely. I can go back to it soon and give specifics - it's nothing that was real clear to me what the problem was. | 23:06 |
| dysinger | You can see from the wiki, I am using bzr-svn "stable" repo - is this ok? | 23:07 |
| jelmer | dysinger: yeah, "stable" is just a symlink to the 0.4 branch | 23:07 |
| jelmer | dysinger: seeing the backtrace may help debug this problem | 23:07 |
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| dysinger | ok hold on 2 minutes jelmer, i'll get it. | 23:14 |
| jelmer | ok | 23:21 |
| dysinger | I am installing again fresh | 23:25 |
| dysinger | I spent time reading through the svn/neon INSTALL docs | 23:25 |
| dysinger | so I think I have that part right | 23:25 |
| dysinger | I think this is some sort of problem with Apple's python or something. | 23:26 |
| jelmer | if it' | 23:26 |
| jelmer | s giving you a python backtrace, chances are it may be a bzr-svn bug | 23:26 |
| dysinger | ah ok | 23:26 |
| dysinger | OK I have svn 1.5 + neon installed with openssl support - all check-swig-py tests pass. svn --version reveals 1.5 with https support. I can checkout https://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk with svn 1.5 no problem. No for the stack dump on bzr-svn | 23:38 |
| dysinger | So just like it says in the wiki bzr checkout --lightweight http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk test works | 23:46 |
| dysinger | jelmer notice no ssl | 23:46 |
| dysinger | one sec and running ssl | 23:46 |
| dysinger | jelmer I get | 23:50 |
| dysinger | bzr checkout --lightweight \ | 23:50 |
| dysinger | > https://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk test | 23:50 |
| dysinger | Assertion failed: (g->gc.gc_refs != _PyGC_REFS_UNTRACKED), function instancemethod_dealloc, file Objects/classobject.c, line 2285. | 23:50 |
| dysinger | Abort trap | 23:50 |
| dysinger | The apple core dump pop up gives me this | 23:52 |
| dysinger | http://pastie.caboo.se/141720 | 23:52 |
| dysinger | that's all - I don't know what to do know. | 23:57 |
| dysinger | now | 23:57 |
| dysinger | s/know/now/g | 23:57 |
| dysinger | lolz | 23:57 |
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