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amk_Question about Bazaar compatibility: should I expect using bzr 1.4 with Launchpad repositories to always work, or do I need to stick to some bzr version that Launchpad supports?00:06
Rinchenamk_, the latest is generally the best...i.e. just keep up with releases via ubuntu, debian, etc.00:09
amk_'k; I was just worried about getting too far ahead of Launchpad.  Thanks!00:14
Rinchenamk_, ah in that case....00:14
Rinchenamk_, I can tell you that LP dogfoods bzr versions00:14
Rinchenamk_, so we're almost always using a release candidate00:15
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directhexa PPA upload is stopping, 1k away from completion. it's happened more than once now.01:48
mruizhi all. I was setting up a poll and I want to know if I can delete one (my first poll).03:40
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directhexthis is really starting to bug me now. i simply can't dput my package11:08
wgrantdirecthex: Have you tried from another machine?11:18
wgrantdirecthex: It's unlikely to be a problem on the Launchpad side - a lot more people would have complained.11:19
directhexwgrant, i can SCP the files to a machine at work. but it's a hefty orig.tar.gz so might take a while11:23
Hobbseewgrant: there's a bug in dput about that.11:35
directhexHobbsee, any solutions?12:23
Hobbseedirecthex: don't htink so, short of trying from another machine.12:24
Hobbseedirecthex: seems to be machine specific, so copying it to another machine, then uploading it, may be a good idea12:25
thomastpHi.  I'm trying to get to understand launchpad to fix bugs in my upstream project12:27
directhexHobbsee, seems that worked :/12:27
thomastpIn https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flumotion/+bug/223567 it says it's a duplicate of some other bug12:27
ubottuthomastp: Error: This bug is private12:27
thomastpany reason why the mention of that other bug is not clickable ?12:27
wgrantthomastp: Because that is private.12:27
thomastpand apparently it is private, why is that ?12:27
wgrantCrashes are by default private, as they can contain confidential dat.12:28
wgrant*data12:28
thomastpwgrant: but I see the bug (the duplicate)12:28
wgrantRight, because you're subscribed to it.12:28
Hobbseedirecthex: i suspect it's because the last packet doesnt' get sent/accepted/something like that, they all seem to be big.12:28
Hobbseebut, i'm unsure12:28
thomastpwgrant: maybe I'm missing something obvious.  I can see the duplicate but not the original bug ?12:28
wgrantthomastp: That's right.12:28
wgrantthomastp: You can now see both.12:28
directhexHobbsee, well, this is an enormous package, so it fits that pattern12:29
thomastpwgrant: oh, so it's non-clickable as long as I don't have rights to see it ?12:29
wgrantthomastp: Correct.12:29
wgrantLaunchpad won't deliberately create broken links.12:29
thomastpok, I guess it's confusing me, but if that's how it is :)12:30
thomastpso, assume I'm now going to fix this bug upstream.  Do I need to do something in launchpad once it's fixed upstream to make that clear ?12:30
thomastp(I am an upstream maintainer, not a ubuntu user or developer)12:30
wgrantYou should click `Also affects... Project', and link it to your project.12:31
wgrant(on the master bug)12:31
wgrantThat will create a new task (with status/importance) for your project, where you can track the status.12:31
thomastpnot sure I follow.  I maintain flumotion upstream, and we use trac for our bug tracking, not launchpad.12:32
wgrantRight, but you can link the upstream task to a bug in your Trac instance.12:32
wgrantFrom which the status should automatically update.12:32
thomastpok, so file a ticket in my trac, then link to that in launchpad ?12:33
wgrantCorrect.12:34
thomastpok, thanks.  Let's see how this goes12:35
thomastpok, so just so I understand this.  There is a "project" Flumotion in launchpad, which I assume is some sort of proxy for the "upstream version".  And there is something called flumotion (source) which I assume is the ubuntu package of it12:36
wgrantThat's right.12:37
thomastpand so when I look for bugs in flumotion, I get bugs of the upstream version, not the ones filed against the package ?12:37
wgrantYes.12:37
thomastpso I should in fact be looking at package bugs first ?12:37
wgrantProbably, as that's where they'll be reported by Ubuntu users.12:37
thomastpright - Iguess I was confused because when I searched for flumotion in launchpad it only shows the project, not the package, hence it was showing 0 bugs12:38
wgrantThat is rather confusing, yes.12:38
thomastpso, how can I update the project record, because among other things the url for our trac has changed ?12:39
* wgrant has a look.12:39
wgrantYou can change the Trac URL at https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/flumotion-trac/+edit.12:40
wgrantMost other attributes of the project can only be changed by Johan Dahlin.12:40
thomastpcan he add me as another person to change things ?12:47
wgrantHe could create a flumotion-dev or similar team, add you, and transfer the ownership to that team.12:48
thomastpok, will ask.12:48
emgentheya wgrant :)12:48
wgrantHi emgent.12:48
thomastpouch, because I marked the launchpad bug as an upstream bug, launchpad autocreated the other tracker, and now it complains when I change the original tracker because the URL already exists12:48
thomastpcan I delete the auto-created one ?12:49
* thomastp tries12:49
wgrantthomastp: Ah, lovely. Your best bet is probably to adjust the URL on the autocreated one to something bogus.12:49
thomastpwgrant: ok, so I'm not convinced it was my autocreation hogging that URL.  my autocreated one had http:// (by mistake) and the one that is already registered uses https://12:54
thomastpwhere can I figure out which bug tracker uses a given URL ?12:54
wgrantthomastp: https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers might be able to help.12:55
thomastpyes, that's where I looked, but it's not in there12:56
wgrantI've no idea then - sorry.12:57
thomastpok, reported a bug12:59
thomastpok, does the feature of linking a bug to the upstream work ? I am trying to make it link to https://code.fluendo.com/flumotion/trac/ticket/971 and every time I do that, it decides that it is linked to code.fluendo.com/flumotion/trac/ #971 which is the auto-created one from before, on which I changed the URL to be bogus13:02
thomastpso I can't actually make it point to the correct upstream URL :/13:02
thomastpcan I make it unaffect Flumotion the project somehow and start over ?13:03
wgrantthomastp: You can't make it unaffect it, but you should be able to change the watch. I'll have a look.13:04
thomastpok, thanks.  Maybe just delete the autoregistered tracker as well -> https://launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/auto-code.fluendo.com-1/+edit13:04
* wgrant is a mere mortal on Launchpad. I can't delete it any more than you.13:05
wgrantOK, got it.13:09
wgrantI think it's linked properly now.13:09
thomastpcool! how did you do it ?13:10
wgrantI altered the Fluendo Trac bugtracker to be code.fluendo.com, rather than core.fluendo.com, which seems to actually work.13:10
wgrantI think altered the bug watch to use the new URL, and it stopped complaining.13:11
thomastpyes, that was what I was trying to change, originally and what complained13:11
wgrantThe bug watch changing thing on the bug page complained when I entered the bug URL you provided.13:11
thomastpok, well, thank you in any case!13:11
wgrantnp13:12
thomastpso, to finish my workflow tutorial :) I am about to fix the bug upstream, but the fix is on trunk.  How should I suggest to the ubuntu package maintainer to include this patch in the stable version ?13:12
thomastphm, Launchpad couldn't connect to Flumotion Trac.13:13
wgrantThere's no Ubuntu maintainer as such.13:13
thomastpthis might be because of the self-signed cert13:13
wgrantThat's possibly because of the invalid HTTPS cert.13:13
wgrantYes.13:13
thomastpone day someone will explain to me what software has against self-signed certs13:14
thomastpwhat do you mean, there's no ubuntu maintainer ? someone is packaging it no ?13:14
wgrantIt's probably synced from Debian.13:14
wgrantSelf-signed certificates are worse than useless.13:14
thomastpwgrant: why ? they provide encryption so that people can login without plaintext pw13:16
wgrantthomastp: I can create my own very nice self-signed certificate and MITM you.13:18
thomastpwgrant: sure, which is an acceptable risk of ss certs, and is still better than plaintext http auth13:19
wgrantIt creates a false sense of security.13:20
thomastpwgrant: which would apply to people actually logging in - but launchpad isn't logging in13:20
wgrantRight, but self-signed certs are still evil and should be discouraged.13:21
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emgentheya Gwaihir 16:07
Gwaihirhi emgent16:08
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ftahm, i'm not allowed to +linkbranchtoseries a branch that i've pushed to my team, in a project owned by that same team. how is that supposed to work ?17:48
zwnjhi there17:52
zwnji have problem submitting bugs on edge17:53
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elmoas a reminder: Launchpad will be offline from maintenance in 45 minutes time, for 2 hours (i.e. 21:00-23:00 UTC)21:14
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ffmHow do I ask for a upstream tracker to be added? (It's trac-based)21:58
dasdsdsadsdasdhi there, i've a short question regarding the "copy package" feature22:01
dasdsdsadsdasdwill the packages be build again in the new ppa when i unselect "copy binaries"?22:02
dasdsdsadsdasdi did this last time, build process started but no debs were available after this22:03
ffmdasdsdsadsdasd: ever thought of having a more prononcable nick?22:04
dasdsdsadsdasdoh, sorry i am using a friends pc22:05
dasdsdsadsdasdwait22:05
Romarioback again with a new, better nick ;-)22:07
Romarioffm, time to answer my question?22:08
ffmRomario: I'm sorry, I personally don't know. LP is down anyway...22:08
Romarioi know, i thought it would be a good time to ask some questions ;-)22:09
ffmHeh.22:09
ffmOooh... going to edge.lp.net gives us OOPSs.22:10
ffm(not literally lp.net22:10
elmoffm: fixed, thanks22:11
Romariook, thanks...i'll come back later after maintenance22:11
Romariobye22:11
ffmelmo: np22:19
lagaa static, HTML-only snapshot of LP would be nice22:20
ffmlaga: yeah, it would...22:31
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elmolaunchpad's back up22:52
bimberismooth upgrade :)22:54
maktrixhttps://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/3269622:54
ffmSo, can anyone add the OLPC bug tracker? It's dev.laptop.org23:01
ffm(trac)23:01
elmoffm: I doubt any LP devs/admins are around to do that atm; you might want to file a question against launchpad for it23:04
elmo(assuming you haven't already)23:04
ffmelmo: I havn't. Will do.23:05
Romarioanyone here familiar with the copy package feature?23:21

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