| Jazzva | asac, woohoo. nspluginwrapper should be built soon :) | 00:15 |
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| Jazzva | hmm... on first tests it failed | 00:23 |
| Jazzva | asac, it still happens that npw popups from time to time, or crashes firefox... | 00:24 |
| Jazzva | well... it happened for the second time. first it doesn't show a flash object, then on reload it popups, and then crashes | 00:25 |
| Jazzva | reboot... system upgrade done... | 00:31 |
| Jazzva | asac, ping... | 01:07 |
| asac | Jazzva: yeah. sorry | 01:07 |
| asac | ;) | 01:07 |
| asac | now i am here for a while | 01:08 |
| Jazzva | asac, no problem :) | 01:08 |
| Jazzva | good... ;) | 01:08 |
| Jazzva | :) | 01:08 |
| Jazzva | I tested nspluginwrapper... it seems to behave just like 0.9.something (the previous one), but worse | 01:08 |
| Jazzva | I think I'll try with 1.0.0 | 01:08 |
| asac | you tried 1.1.0? | 01:08 |
| Jazzva | yep | 01:09 |
| asac | i think that only works with flash 10 | 01:09 |
| asac | did you use that? | 01:09 |
| Jazzva | that was the one I was testing now | 01:09 |
| Jazzva | I have flash 10... if it's in intrepid | 01:09 |
| Jazzva | 10.0.1.218+10.0.0.525ubuntu1 | 01:09 |
| asac | right | 01:09 |
| asac | ok. | 01:09 |
| asac | maybe really a development version then | 01:09 |
| asac | Jazzva: what regressions do you see? | 01:10 |
| asac | (in 1.1.0 - worse?) | 01:10 |
| Jazzva | and firefox reports npwrapper.libflashplayer.so in about:plugins | 01:10 |
| Jazzva | yes... in 1.1.0 it's worse | 01:10 |
| Jazzva | It's not able to present flash at all... at least I didn't manage... | 01:11 |
| asac | sounds wierd | 01:11 |
| asac | anyway try 1.0 first then | 01:11 |
| Jazzva | cool | 01:12 |
| asac | Jazzva: did you hear anything about xionox today? | 01:29 |
| asac | i wonder if got completely stuck | 01:29 |
| Jazzva | can't remember... logs are available at irclogs.ubuntu.com :) | 01:29 |
| Jazzva | hmm... he said just one thing yesterday | 01:31 |
| Jazzva | [17:57] <XioNoX> hi asac, you get the power back ? | 01:31 |
| asac | ok | 01:31 |
| asac | i got that ;) | 01:31 |
| Jazzva | wow... we really are a silent channel. the log is so short | 01:32 |
| Jazzva | back to patches, and refreshing them | 01:32 |
| asac | well. our activity is not really less than what -desktop has for a bunch of days | 01:32 |
| asac | and they have far more users lurking ;) | 01:32 |
| Jazzva | asac, will you make it for the meeting on 3rd? | 01:32 |
| Jazzva | asac, hehe :) | 01:32 |
| asac | well. unless my float plane doesnt start or its a hoax i should make it | 01:33 |
| asac | i arrive on 2nd | 01:33 |
| Jazzva | ah... right, it's still 31st over there. | 01:33 |
| asac | yep | 01:33 |
| Jazzva | and it's still day... 15:33? | 01:34 |
| Jazzva | lucky you ;) | 01:34 |
| asac | the idea is to arrive on 5:33pm on sat 2nd aug in hamburg :( | 01:34 |
| asac | its 17:34 | 01:34 |
| asac | just 9 hours | 01:35 |
| Jazzva | oh... i thought it's more. | 01:35 |
| asac | well 12 hours is hawaii ;) | 01:35 |
| asac | (where i probably would love to be right now) | 01:35 |
| Jazzva | in the middle of nowhere :P | 01:35 |
| asac | my current concern is that today dinner is on a hill | 01:36 |
| asac | we leave at 1830 | 01:36 |
| asac | and i would like to be back at 2030 to do online checkin right when it opens | 01:36 |
| asac | to get emergency exit seat | 01:36 |
| asac | i think i can forget that idea | 01:37 |
| Jazzva | to be back at 2030 where? | 01:37 |
| asac | in hotel | 01:37 |
| Jazzva | ah.. online checkin :) | 01:37 |
| asac | somewhere where i have internet | 01:37 |
| Jazzva | and leave at 1830 to have dinner on a hill.. | 01:37 |
| asac | i doubt there is wifi on the hill ... we go up with a gondola | 01:37 |
| asac | yeah ;) | 01:37 |
| asac | unlikely to get back in time | 01:37 |
| Jazzva | don't leave the hotel :P | 01:37 |
| asac | skip dinner ... hmm sounds geeky | 01:38 |
| asac | i need to socialise | 01:38 |
| asac | ;) | 01:38 |
| asac | thats one of the main reasons i am here | 01:38 |
| Jazzva | hmm... emergency exit seat. Great, now I'm scared of planes and their crashes again... | 01:38 |
| asac | get people drunk and make them listen to our needs ;) | 01:38 |
| Jazzva | that doesn't sound like socialisation... more like promotion :P | 01:38 |
| asac | Jazzva: hehe ... no i like the emergency exit seats on boeing 747 ... there is no seat nor a wall in front of you | 01:39 |
| asac | so leg-wise its like first-class :) | 01:39 |
| asac | i managed to get one on glith ere | 01:39 |
| Jazzva | ah... must remember that for september :). (though I'm not able to do online checkin... stupid company) | 01:39 |
| asac | Jazzva: where are you going then? | 01:40 |
| Jazzva | boston :) | 01:40 |
| asac | oh cool | 01:40 |
| asac | over heathrow? | 01:40 |
| Jazzva | after the exams... vacation :) | 01:40 |
| Jazzva | no... i think munich, or zurich... | 01:40 |
| asac | which airline? | 01:40 |
| Jazzva | lufthansa/jat airways/united airlines... | 01:40 |
| asac | doenst lufthansa have online checkin? | 01:41 |
| Jazzva | yep. but I'm unable to do it, because of jat airways... that's our national airline... | 01:41 |
| Jazzva | and it sucks big time | 01:42 |
| asac | Jazzva: too bad. you most likely will be seated in the middle of the middle in the back of the plane :( | 01:42 |
| asac | sorry for that | 01:42 |
| Jazzva | last time i got a seat by a window ;) | 01:42 |
| asac | but well ;) ... boston flight is just 6 hours | 01:42 |
| Jazzva | and middle of the middle... no way... anything but that :) | 01:42 |
| asac | which can be long enough to suffer | 01:43 |
| Jazzva | (especially if you consider I'm 195cm tall :)) | 01:43 |
| Jazzva | (painful) | 01:43 |
| asac | when i went to thailand it happened to be like that. i arrived at airport. every seat was taken but middle of middle | 01:43 |
| asac | and next to me two fat ones ;) | 01:43 |
| Jazzva | ouch... | 01:43 |
| asac | so mostly in the middle of the seat in the middle of the middle :) | 01:43 |
| asac | and that was 9h ;) | 01:44 |
| Jazzva | painful... :) | 01:44 |
| asac | yeah ... especially since they turned off the light and television and told us to sleep right after dinner | 01:44 |
| asac | and i didnt have a clock | 01:44 |
| Jazzva | haha | 01:44 |
| Jazzva | really? | 01:45 |
| asac | so it was an endless trip | 01:45 |
| asac | yes really | 01:45 |
| asac | they didnt have per-seat TVs | 01:45 |
| asac | so no info displays in overnight flights | 01:45 |
| Jazzva | and they told you to go to sleep? oh, my... | 01:45 |
| asac | not even drinks were served for 4 hours or so | 01:45 |
| asac | Jazzva: well they said: good night. turned off the light | 01:45 |
| asac | and since we flew against the sund it was like 2 hours dark outside and the whenever you saw someone opening the window you saw that it was fucking daylight | 01:46 |
| asac | "sleep well" :) | 01:46 |
| Jazzva | airplanes are not nice. when will they invent useful teleportation :)? | 01:46 |
| asac | not sure | 01:46 |
| asac | i think you need to get rich to get an enjoyable flight | 01:47 |
| Jazzva | ...or your own airplane ;) | 01:47 |
| asac | i think that is subsumed by rich (even richer :)) | 01:47 |
| asac | at least if you want a plane that can do long-distance flights ;) | 01:47 |
| Jazzva | :) | 01:47 |
| asac | in between you could charter your own plane | 01:48 |
| asac | which is probably only 5 times the price of first class | 01:49 |
| Jazzva | yeah... now just to make a plan to earn all that money ;) | 01:49 |
| asac | but given that first class is 10 times the price of coach class you end up having 50 times | 01:49 |
| Jazzva | hmm... get a credit from a bank and expect it will pay-off :) | 01:51 |
| asac | yeah. you could start your own "private" flight carrier | 01:51 |
| asac | ;) | 01:51 |
| asac | o credit | 01:51 |
| asac | and when you have enough customers you can probably take your own flight from time to time | 01:52 |
| Jazzva | :) | 01:52 |
| Jazzva | ok, running a test build of 1.0.0 | 01:53 |
| Jazzva | yay... it works on first flash :) | 02:12 |
| asac | Jazzva: good crack ;) | 02:13 |
| asac | on x86? | 02:13 |
| asac | probably works on amd64 as well then | 02:13 |
| Jazzva | and on second flash... yay :) | 02:13 |
| Jazzva | x86... | 02:13 |
| asac | good ... if its based on the mt package, please push it there ;) | 02:13 |
| Jazzva | let's see what it does on youtube | 02:14 |
| Jazzva | it is... | 02:14 |
| asac | Jazzva: any patches you had to drop? | 02:14 |
| Jazzva | bah... it's not :)... but I will just branch, and apply the new modifications | 02:14 |
| asac | branch? | 02:14 |
| asac | we dont have a branch ;) | 02:14 |
| asac | we have PPA :-D | 02:14 |
| Jazzva | in patch 004_ the part that modifies npw-viewer.c was implemented upstream | 02:14 |
| Jazzva | right... ppa :) | 02:15 |
| asac | ok | 02:15 |
| asac | yeah. put it there | 02:15 |
| Jazzva | hmm... I have to check how to use PPA :) | 02:15 |
| Jazzva | I have never used it before... | 02:15 |
| asac | really? | 02:15 |
| Jazzva | yes | 02:15 |
| asac | i think its time then ;) | 02:15 |
| asac | you will figure | 02:15 |
| Jazzva | yep :) | 02:15 |
| asac | if oyu use a sane verison you cant do much harm ;) | 02:15 |
| asac | please base it on the current ppa package (but if you hvae x86 support it should work) | 02:15 |
| Jazzva | 1.0.0-0ubuntu1~mt1? | 02:16 |
| Jazzva | yay... youtube works :) | 02:16 |
| asac | yah | 02:16 |
| asac | thats fine version wise | 02:16 |
| asac | so just --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree? | 02:16 |
| asac | then it works? | 02:16 |
| asac | good | 02:16 |
| Jazzva | no... just dpkg -i deb_file | 02:16 |
| Jazzva | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89GB7z_Ogt0&feature=rec-fresh this song is great :). I'll test it a bit more before pushing ;) | 02:17 |
| asac | err ... if you dont reinstlal flashpluginnonfree it doesnt recreate the wrapper iirc | 02:17 |
| Jazzva | hmm... really? | 02:17 |
| asac | so you might still be using the old | 02:17 |
| asac | yeah | 02:17 |
| Jazzva | but, it failed when I was using 1.1.0 | 02:17 |
| Jazzva | hmm... ok, I'll test with 1.1.0 again | 02:17 |
| asac | it definitly doesnt recreate the wrapper | 02:17 |
| asac | if you didnt that probably was the problem | 02:18 |
| asac | first test 1.0.0 | 02:18 |
| asac | if that works push it | 02:18 |
| asac | then go for 1.1.0 ;) | 02:18 |
| Jazzva | ok | 02:18 |
| asac | or do whatever you prefer :=) | 02:18 |
| Jazzva | so, dpkg -i nspluginwrapper, --reinstall flashplugin? | 02:19 |
| asac | i have have to be down to yes | 02:19 |
| Jazzva | :) | 02:19 |
| asac | Jazzva: well. you can look in flashplugin postinst script | 02:19 |
| asac | and see what it calls to create the wrapper | 02:19 |
| asac | you can run that manually too | 02:19 |
| Jazzva | right... | 02:19 |
| asac | but --reinstlal should work | 02:20 |
| Jazzva | hmm... is it me, or is this flash snappier than before? | 02:20 |
| Jazzva | and less consuming, cpu-wise | 02:20 |
| crimsun | Flash 10 beta 2? I've heard it described many ways. "snappier" and "less consuming, cpu-wise" are not included. | 02:22 |
| asac | ok ... got to run to mountain dinner ... press thumbs that i get emergency seat when coming back ;) | 02:23 |
| asac | good night! | 02:23 |
| Jazzva | asac, have fun | 02:23 |
| asac | u2 | 02:23 |
| Jazzva | crimsun, it's running faster in full-screen here... | 02:23 |
| asac | its about nspluginwrapper 1.0.0 :) | 02:23 |
| * asac out | 02:23 | |
| Jazzva | ah :) | 02:23 |
| Jazzva | nspluginwrapper 1.1.0 is a development version. Not really usable for now | 03:26 |
| Jazzva | Both amd64 and i386 builds of nspluginwrapper 1.0.0 succeeded and are available in MT's PPA :) | 03:46 |
| Jazzva | off to sleep, see you later | 03:46 |
| asac | Jazzva: rock! | 06:50 |
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| asac | too bad. no emergency exit | 07:03 |
| * asac going down to bar again | 07:03 | |
| XioNoX | hi | 09:21 |
| XioNoX | asac, ping ? | 09:21 |
| asac | XioNoX: uh? | 10:31 |
| asac | please dont consider myself conscience right now :/ | 10:32 |
| asac | going to fall to bed pretty soon | 10:32 |
| asac | @time vancouver | 10:32 |
| ubottu | asac: Current time in America/Vancouver: August 01 2008, 02:32:27 - Next meeting: Xubuntu Community in 1 day | 10:32 |
| XioNoX | asac, okay, have you seen the screenshot ? | 10:32 |
| XioNoX | http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capture1vf1.png | 10:33 |
| * asac looking | 10:33 | |
| asac | looks good | 10:33 |
| XioNoX | next steep ? | 10:35 |
| asac | hmm | 10:35 |
| XioNoX | considering that i've spend the full afternoon yesterday to make the install button working without succes.. | 10:35 |
| XioNoX | idem fot the big button | 10:35 |
| asac | what did you do to make the button working | 10:36 |
| asac | ? | 10:36 |
| asac | s/did you/did you try/ | 10:36 |
| XioNoX | buttInstall.setAttribute("oncommand", "window._content.document.location.href='?XPILocation';"); | 10:37 |
| XioNoX | this is the last tryout | 10:37 |
| asac | did you look th | 10:38 |
| XioNoX | the ?XPILocation looks like : apt:....... | 10:38 |
| asac | at the plugin finder service how it triggers installs? | 10:38 |
| asac | i think you shouldnt use href="..." | 10:38 |
| asac | instead implmenet a helper function like "installPlugin (URL)" | 10:39 |
| asac | which then detects the install methods | 10:39 |
| asac | if its apt:... run it using apturl | 10:39 |
| asac | otherwise use the normal .xpi mechanism | 10:39 |
| XioNoX | ok | 10:40 |
| XioNoX | but the installPlugin (URL) | 10:40 |
| XioNoX | should detect for exemple if the user have sudo acces ? | 10:41 |
| asac | for now leave that out | 10:41 |
| XioNoX | ok | 10:41 |
| asac | we have to implement a pluggable thing after thta | 10:41 |
| XioNoX | so i write a function "installPlugin(URL) | 10:41 |
| asac | for instance we should hide the results in case plugins cannot installed with sudo due to privileges | 10:42 |
| XioNoX | which detect the kind of file ? | 10:42 |
| asac | but ill think about it during flight | 10:42 |
| asac | yep | 10:42 |
| asac | you inspect the URL | 10:42 |
| XioNoX | ok | 10:42 |
| XioNoX | i'll try to find how i can do that | 10:42 |
| asac | if its apt: ... run the current apt method ... otherwise the current XPIInstall | 10:42 |
| asac | i am sure youll figure | 10:42 |
| XioNoX | XPIInstall come only from https ? | 10:43 |
| XioNoX | and how I use the apt method ? | 10:43 |
| asac | we already have code for that in ubufox | 10:44 |
| XioNoX | in my mind, we have just to call the url and firefox will automatically use the apt or normal method | 10:44 |
| XioNoX | ok | 10:44 |
| asac | in the end thats probably what we want to do | 10:44 |
| asac | but for now go the manual way | 10:44 |
| asac | we have to think about what to do in what way | 10:45 |
| asac | https:// might not always mean .xpi | 10:45 |
| XioNoX | ok | 10:46 |
| XioNoX | i'll try to finish this function before you wake up :D | 10:46 |
| asac | thanks ;) | 10:47 |
| asac | ill be travelling tomorrow though | 10:47 |
| asac | but i probably will be in for an hour or so before | 10:47 |
| XioNoX | you go back to the airport through the 8hours road ? | 10:49 |
| asac | nope ... i booked a float plane :) | 10:49 |
| asac | see http://www.westcoastair.com/ | 10:50 |
| XioNoX | cool | 10:50 |
| asac | ;) | 10:50 |
| asac | well ... if that cannot start because of wheather then i am lost :/ | 10:50 |
| asac | anyway ... off! | 10:50 |
| asac | cu tomorrow | 10:50 |
| asac | err ... today | 10:50 |
| XioNoX | cu | 10:50 |
| Jazzva | have a good flight asac | 10:52 |
| Jazzva | morning all :) | 10:52 |
| XioNoX | morning | 10:56 |
| godlygeek | so, on hardy, i'm getting constant crashes with ff3, flash9, libflashsupport, and pulseaudio... | 12:16 |
| godlygeek | i was hoping to fix that with an upgrade to flash 10, but that seems not to really work for me; i'm getting some weird graphic glitches... | 12:16 |
| godlygeek | namely, white pixels strewn seemingly ramdomly (and with random density) throughout the videos... | 12:17 |
| godlygeek | though, actually, the flash 10 demos seem to work perfectly for me, youtube videos don't at all. | 12:17 |
| godlygeek | anyone seen this, by any chance? | 12:17 |
| godlygeek | a link to a bug report someone filed about this very bug - http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-470 | 12:50 |
| godlygeek | i'm guessing "Linux - Other" is a pretty good indication that they're running ubuntu as well. | 12:50 |
| Jazzva | godlygeek, or some other distro ;). Anyway, removing libflashsupport with Flash 9 solved crashes for me. True, Flash wouldn't play sound if some other program was using sound device (for example, Banshee) | 12:54 |
| Jazzva | s/with Flash 9/and using Flash9/ | 12:54 |
| fta | Jazzva, there's no need to add those "Open tree for xxxx development" in debian/changelog, having those in bzr logs is enough | 12:55 |
| Jazzva | fta, ok. I thought we put them, and at the end remove that with commit "release bla to ubuntu/release" | 12:56 |
| Jazzva | fta, I'll stop adding them :) | 12:57 |
| fta | i usually don't even have such a commit in the branch, asac sometimes adds one.. imho, it's not needed, we already have a commit clearly identifying each RELEASE | 12:58 |
| godlygeek | hm. still, i wish flash 10 would work... any way that it could be our bug? or is it most certainly a bug in their blob? | 12:58 |
| fta | Jazzva, so it's obvious the next one is the open for dev one | 12:58 |
| Jazzva | fta, and we have "RELEASE for real" in case something needs to be changed :) | 12:59 |
| Jazzva | godlygeek, not sure. Flash 10 works for me on intrepid, with nspluginwrapper. | 12:59 |
| fta | Jazzva, yep (even if i prefer to uncommit the RELEASE for last minute changes, while i know asac hates that) | 13:00 |
| godlygeek | is intrepid using the same FF3 version as hardy at present? | 13:00 |
| Jazzva | uncommit == overwrite current commit? | 13:01 |
| Jazzva | fta ^ | 13:01 |
| fta | uncommit + revert + last minute changes + commit + RELEASE commit + push --overwrite | 13:02 |
| Jazzva | aha... | 13:02 |
| fta | just to keep a clean branch | 13:02 |
| Jazzva | godlygeek, as far as I can see, the versions should be same, at least in intrepid and hardy-updates | 13:03 |
| fta | Jazzva, overwrite should not matter unless someone else pulled the branch during this short window.. but we are a small group and we communicate so it should not matter much. | 13:03 |
| Jazzva | fta, I agree with that. But because of small window, I agree with asac too. Man in the middle :) | 13:04 |
| Jazzva | fta, take a look at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0 | 13:04 |
| Jazzva | changelog for 3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 | 13:04 |
| Jazzva | see how asac has two human icons, and you one. Bug in Launchpad? | 13:05 |
| Jazzva | Hmm... that's not the only place in the changelogs. | 13:05 |
| Jazzva | woah... 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 | 13:05 |
| godlygeek | hm. wonder if it's a change that needs to be backported from X, or some such... | 13:06 |
| godlygeek | with the same blob and same firefox, that'd be my first guess for where the difference could lie... | 13:06 |
| fta | Jazzva, lol, seems it's the number of times you appear in each entry | 13:07 |
| Jazzva | fta, right. It's confusing :) | 13:07 |
| fta | and it's from a patched dch.. asac patched it locally to add emails in the [] | 13:10 |
| Jazzva | mhm | 13:11 |
| godlygeek | Jazzva: on intrepid, what's the flash version number you get? | 13:14 |
| Jazzva | godlygeek, 10.0.1.218+10.0.0.525ubuntu1 | 13:15 |
| godlygeek | about:plugins has Shockwave Flash 10.0.0 d525 for me... wonder if i have a later one than you? | 13:15 |
| Jazzva | that's the one | 13:15 |
| godlygeek | so, with the same version of ff3, and of flash, any thoughts at what things i should try to investigate? | 13:20 |
| godlygeek | it really is the difference between "works well" and "completely unusable" | 13:20 |
| cwillu | is there a repo or a ppa with flash10beta around? | 14:11 |
| XioNoX | yep | 14:13 |
| * cwillu jumps eagerly | 14:13 | |
| * cwillu sits down obediently, with a stick in his mouth, tail wagging | 14:14 | |
| XioNoX | https://launchpad.net/~thielmann/+archive | 14:14 |
| XioNoX | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/thielmann/ubuntu hardy main | 14:14 |
| XioNoX | Working better for me | 14:15 |
| cwillu | sounds great, thanks | 14:15 |
| XioNoX | but still slow for some full screen videos | 14:15 |
| cwillu | does one still need asound2-plugins? | 14:15 |
| XioNoX | don't seem to | 14:16 |
| Jazzva | XioNoX, if on intrepid, please test nspluginwrapper 1.0.0 from mozilla team's ppa | 14:16 |
| Jazzva | It might solve slowness | 14:16 |
| XioNoX | I'm still on hardy | 14:17 |
| XioNoX | and on 64bits, if i can help | 14:17 |
| Jazzva | nspluginwrapper compiled ok for amd64. It should work too... | 14:18 |
| XioNoX | can you build nspluginwrapper 1 for hardy ? | 14:19 |
| Jazzva | btw, that version for flash is bad (cairo10.0.0.525ubuntu1). It's higher than any number version | 14:20 |
| Jazzva | at least I think | 14:20 |
| Jazzva | XioNoX, I can try to push this to my ppa and see if it will build for hardy. | 14:20 |
| XioNoX | ok, thanks | 14:20 |
| Jazzva | np | 14:21 |
| godlygeek | there's already a 32-bit nspluginwrapper built for hardy in someone's ppa... | 14:21 |
| godlygeek | (that's what we're talking about, right?) | 14:21 |
| Jazzva | version 1.0.0? | 14:21 |
| XioNoX | i need a 64bits version to test it | 14:22 |
| godlygeek | sorry, no - nspluginwrapper_0.9.91.5-2ubuntu2_i386.deb | 14:24 |
| Jazzva | fta, ping | 14:24 |
| hyperair | hello there. anyone know why mozilla team's ppa seems to have a "mozilla-thunderbird" package which is 1.5? | 14:25 |
| Jazzva | fta, nvm :) | 14:27 |
| fta | grrr, i'm fighting with sparql, can't get anything right. maybe it's my rdf files | 14:30 |
| Jazzva | XioNoX, built :). Please report back how it works... https://edge.launchpad.net/~jazzva/+archive | 14:37 |
| Jazzva | And I suppose it will be replaced by the one in MT (in case we publish it to MT's PPA). | 14:38 |
| XioNoX | not yet on my apt-get | 14:39 |
| Jazzva | have you added my ppa? | 14:40 |
| XioNoX | yep | 14:40 |
| Jazzva | hmm... should be there in few minutes, I guess... | 14:40 |
| XioNoX | on your page, status is still "pending" | 14:40 |
| XioNoX | and not yet Published | 14:40 |
| XioNoX | now it is ok | 14:41 |
| Jazzva | oh, and run apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-nonfree after. | 14:41 |
| XioNoX | ok, it is a little bit better, but not enough fluid | 14:44 |
| XioNoX | there are still sacades | 14:44 |
| XioNoX | and one of my cores are at 100% | 14:45 |
| Jazzva | what's a sacade? | 14:45 |
| XioNoX | saccades | 14:45 |
| XioNoX | google traduction give me that word | 14:46 |
| XioNoX | it is not fluid, there are some "micro" pauses | 14:47 |
| Jazzva | aha, got it... | 14:47 |
| Jazzva | same here. | 14:47 |
| XioNoX | youtube is working fine | 14:48 |
| XioNoX | but a french TV website that propose to see movies during 14 days for free isn't | 14:49 |
| Jazzva | godlygeek, yeah, I notice the white dots here too... Now I took a good look at the video. | 14:49 |
| XioNoX | bis is amazing to see how flash is stable on 64bits | 14:49 |
| Jazzva | 'm off. be back in the evening. see you :) | 14:56 |
| XioNoX | cu | 14:57 |
| jtv | asac: hi, you there? | 15:49 |
| asac | yeah. just woke up | 15:49 |
| jtv | asac: woke up!? | 15:49 |
| XioNoX | is is 8am in vacouver i think | 15:51 |
| asac | all fine? | 16:33 |
| asac | ;) | 16:33 |
| XioNoX | no bears ? :D | 16:38 |
| asac | hehe | 16:38 |
| XioNoX | i'm stuck with a little pb | 16:38 |
| asac | i am stuck in a little village ;) | 16:39 |
| XioNoX | ok, you win ;) | 16:39 |
| asac | so whats the prob? | 16:39 |
| XioNoX | it is to get the ?XPILocation content in javascript | 16:40 |
| XioNoX | buttInstall.setAttribute("oncommand", "installPlugin();"); | 16:40 |
| XioNoX | in the installPlugin(); | 16:41 |
| XioNoX | because ?XPIlocation is replaced by it content only when XUL parse it | 16:41 |
| XioNoX | and not js | 16:41 |
| asac | huh? | 16:42 |
| asac | its replaced _before_ i think | 16:42 |
| asac | so using installPlugin('?something'); should work imo | 16:42 |
| XioNoX | nop | 16:42 |
| XioNoX | it didn't | 16:42 |
| XioNoX | with or without ' | 16:43 |
| XioNoX | i get error | 16:43 |
| XioNoX | Javascript syntax error | 16:43 |
| XioNoX | or another error message | 16:43 |
| asac | well. it really should work. there most be something else wrong then | 16:47 |
| asac | try to just use "window.alert('?XXX');" | 16:48 |
| XioNoX | I have a popup | 16:51 |
| XioNoX | with "?XPILocation" inside :D | 16:52 |
| XioNoX | I'll try with \" | 16:52 |
| XioNoX | same with " | 16:54 |
| asac | are you sure that ?XPILocation actually works? | 16:55 |
| XioNoX | yep | 16:56 |
| asac | how do you know? | 16:56 |
| XioNoX | if I put buttInstall.setAttribute("label", ?XPILocation); it works | 16:57 |
| asac | oh | 16:57 |
| XioNoX | I can create XUL element with it | 16:57 |
| asac | you dont need ' then | 16:57 |
| XioNoX | but not using it inside javascript | 16:57 |
| XioNoX | window.alert(?XPILocation); | 16:57 |
| XioNoX | big bug of the addon window | 16:58 |
| asac | there is no realy difference of buttInstall.setAttribute("label", ?XPILocation); and window.alert(...) from what i can tell | 16:59 |
| asac | the evaluation should happen during XUL generation and not during javascript ... so it shouldnt really matter | 17:00 |
| asac | as long as its in a xul template | 17:00 |
| XioNoX | ok | 17:01 |
| XioNoX | but I've try all possibilities, and none of them works | 17:01 |
| asac | sounds strange | 17:02 |
| asac | to workaround you can add a "specialbuttoninstallproperty", ?XPILocation | 17:02 |
| XioNoX | I agree | 17:02 |
| asac | and then look up the "specialbuttoninstallproperty" from the installPlugins() function | 17:02 |
| XioNoX | i've thinks about that | 17:02 |
| asac | but thats an ugly hack | 17:03 |
| XioNoX | but I'll have do do a loop because there are 2 buttons | 17:03 |
| asac | but if it unstucks you for now, maybe do that and fix it for real later | 17:03 |
| asac | no you dont | 17:03 |
| asac | the installPlugins() function is run from the oncommand | 17:03 |
| asac | there you get a "e" object | 17:03 |
| asac | which has an eventtarget | 17:03 |
| asac | field .... which should be the button element that was clicked on | 17:03 |
| armin76 | asac: bumb! | 17:04 |
| armin76 | where are you? | 17:04 |
| asac | armin76: fly | 17:04 |
| asac | i am stuck in whistler | 17:04 |
| XioNoX | ok | 17:04 |
| XioNoX | the function installPlugin(aURI) is done | 17:04 |
| asac | waiting for my float plane to depart to vancouver | 17:04 |
| asac | (or not) | 17:04 |
| armin76 | when thats supposed to happen? :D | 17:05 |
| asac | XioNoX: then make ainstalButtonPressed function for now | 17:05 |
| asac | that uses the event object provided by the oncommand event | 17:05 |
| asac | to get the URI and then runs installPlugin ()... :) | 17:05 |
| asac | understood? | 17:05 |
| asac | armin76: scheduled float plane lift of is in 6 hours from now | 17:05 |
| XioNoX | ok | 17:05 |
| asac | we start from a gulf course :) | 17:05 |
| XioNoX | I'll do that monday | 17:06 |
| asac | but weather is bad so its open if i can start at all | 17:06 |
| asac | XioNoX: or on weekend ;) | 17:06 |
| asac | hehe | 17:06 |
| XioNoX | hum | 17:06 |
| asac | you go home for weekends? | 17:06 |
| asac | XioNoX: we have a mozillateam meeting on sunday | 17:06 |
| asac | maybe you want to attend | 17:06 |
| asac | see topic ;) | 17:06 |
| XioNoX | I've relatives in paris | 17:06 |
| XioNoX | ok | 17:07 |
| asac | ah | 17:07 |
| XioNoX | I'll be there | 17:07 |
| asac | XioNoX: only if you are interested of course | 17:07 |
| asac | should take an hour or so | 17:07 |
| XioNoX | ha ok | 17:07 |
| XioNoX | I'm interested ;) | 17:07 |
| XioNoX | i'll be there | 17:08 |
| XioNoX | I go | 17:09 |
| fta | XioNoX: parisien ? | 17:09 |
| XioNoX | i move | 17:09 |
| XioNoX | yep during the internship | 17:09 |
| fta | great | 17:10 |
| XioNoX | you ? | 17:10 |
| fta | je bosse a paris | 17:10 |
| XioNoX | ou ca ? | 17:10 |
| fta | 3e | 17:10 |
| fta | je prefere taire le nom de la boite | 17:11 |
| XioNoX | pkoi? | 17:11 |
| fta | ben mon employeur peut me faire des miseres | 17:11 |
| XioNoX | a ce point là ? | 17:12 |
| XioNoX | j'te laisse, j'dois y aller | 17:12 |
| XioNoX | bye | 17:12 |
| fta | + | 17:12 |
| asac | fta: nss folks complained to me about the "SOVERSIONING" ;) | 17:14 |
| armin76 | A+ | 17:14 |
| fta | asac, we inherited that from debian | 17:15 |
| asac | true | 17:15 |
| asac | they said that they would be open to adapt a SOVERSIONING scheme if there are real arguments for it | 17:15 |
| fta | sharing between all moz apps | 17:15 |
| asac | but as it seems we probably should go for their way - whatever that will be | 17:15 |
| asac | fta: thast system-nss ... not really bound to the versioning | 17:16 |
| fta | it is, if you consider moz1.8, moz1.9, ... | 17:16 |
| asac | fta: they say that its always forward compatible. | 17:16 |
| fta | we are just lucky that at the moment, 1.8 is fine with fresh nss/nspr | 17:16 |
| asac | e.g. moz1.8 _must_ run with latest nss release | 17:16 |
| asac | they said that even moz1.4 should be able to use current nss | 17:17 |
| asac | its ment to be a drop in replacement :( | 17:17 |
| fta | well, maybe... Is there a precedent where debian had to bump soname ? | 17:18 |
| asac | i think the only benefit we get from the versoining is that you cannot be tricked into believing that moz1.9 could work with a nss that is older | 17:18 |
| asac | fta: had to ... no. i dont think so | 17:18 |
| asac | i think it really just guards us form "downgrade nss" case | 17:18 |
| asac | but still that has value | 17:19 |
| fta | but if there's no previous soname, that's no guard at all | 17:19 |
| asac | the reason that complained is that they want binaries produced on ubuntu to be usable on other systems that have system-nss | 17:19 |
| asac | fta: libnss3.so.0d -> libnss3.so.1d | 17:19 |
| asac | thats the bump we have | 17:19 |
| fta | oh | 17:19 |
| fta | right | 17:19 |
| asac | so if nss upstream would adapt a versioning likd libnss3.so.1 and people build against that, then the binaries would complain about a missing binary if dropped to a distribution that still has old nss | 17:20 |
| asac | which is probably better than symbol errors | 17:20 |
| fta | but asaik, debian and ubuntu are in sync for soname, so which distro(s) are they concerned about ? | 17:23 |
| asac | all the others | 17:23 |
| asac | fedora/rhel + suse/opensuse + gentoo | 17:24 |
| asac | and what not :) | 17:24 |
| asac | and all the people that build nss from source to get a "decent" crypto lib | 17:24 |
| asac | armin76: bump nss | 17:24 |
| asac | what do you do with nss? | 17:24 |
| fta | oh, you meant upstream tar.gz builds, not debs | 17:24 |
| asac | fta: yes. all builds of nss on linux | 17:25 |
| asac | distro independent | 17:25 |
| asac | thats what they want | 17:25 |
| asac | which also includes our packaged libs | 17:25 |
| fta | who is that, the moz guys or the nss/nspr guys ? | 17:26 |
| asac | nss guys | 17:26 |
| asac | which overlap a bit with moz | 17:26 |
| asac | but are mostly an independent entity | 17:26 |
| fta | i doubt the moz guys consider system libs | 17:26 |
| asac | well. they perceive distros as the main distribution channels - finally | 17:27 |
| asac | so they cant ignore system-XXX | 17:27 |
| asac | nspr guys didnt really complain. but probably the same applies there | 17:28 |
| asac | and they might just not know how we distribute their lib | 17:28 |
| asac | they certainly want to be even more "drop-in-binary-compatible" | 17:28 |
| * asac goes down to smoke | 17:33 | |
| armin76 | asac: what do i do? dunno, build it? :P | 17:37 |
| fta_ | armin76, <fta> do you patch it to have libnss3.so.1d instead of libnss3.so ? | 17:47 |
| armin76 | fta: uh... | 17:48 |
| armin76 | fta: http://rafb.net/p/bOTgOE78.html | 17:49 |
| fta_ | .12 | 17:49 |
| fta_ | so you have your own soname too | 17:50 |
| armin76 | no clue, i didn't do the ebuild | 17:50 |
| fta_ | you probably have a patch doing that | 17:51 |
| armin76 | for file in *.so; do | 17:52 |
| armin76 | mv ${file} ${file}.${MINOR_VERSION} | 17:52 |
| armin76 | ln -s ${file}.${MINOR_VERSION} ${file} | 17:52 |
| armin76 | done | 17:52 |
| fta_ | hm, that's not real soname | 17:56 |
| fta_ | try: objdump -x /usr/lib/nss/libssl3.so.12 | grep SONAME | 17:56 |
| armin76 | SONAME libssl3.so.12 | 17:57 |
| armin76 | http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/dev-libs/nss/files/nss-3.12-config-1.patch?view=markup | 17:57 |
| armin76 | thats probably what you mean | 17:57 |
| fta_ | yep | 17:57 |
| asac | oh no ... flight is at risk | 17:57 |
| fta_ | http://patches.ubuntu.com/by-release/extracted/ubuntu/n/nss/3.12.0.3-0ubuntu4/81_sonames.patch | 17:59 |
| === fta_ is now known as fta | ||
| asac | ok i have to go to city to forget about this desaster and hope for the best | 18:13 |
| asac | wish me luck ;) | 18:13 |
| armin76 | lol | 18:15 |
| armin76 | bad luck *g* | 18:15 |
| godlygeek | Could someone running Flash 10 Beta 2 tell me if this video works for them: http://video.zp.hu/page/peterfy_bori_es_a_love_band_1resz | 18:27 |
| fta | godlygeek, i can see the video but encoding seems bad (a lot of squares and white marks) | 18:48 |
| fta | godlygeek, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/flash10.png | 18:48 |
| godlygeek | fta: if it's not too much trouble, would you be able to try with flash 9? | 18:50 |
| godlygeek | just about every youtube video gives me something similar - white marks and short lines flickering across the video, mostly at edges with sharp contrast. | 18:51 |
| godlygeek | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awuTkVytgYs <- particularly bad | 18:52 |
| fta | i never have those white stripes on youtube, or anywhere else | 18:52 |
| fta | oh right, this one is bad, indeed | 18:53 |
| godlygeek | hah, maybe i've just had the bad luck of picking the only affected videos. :) | 18:55 |
| godlygeek | fta: hardy, or intrepid? | 18:55 |
| fta | intrepid | 18:55 |
| godlygeek | someone earlier said that it worked on intrepid... but, i suppose it was just a fluke, they were only seeing videos that worked... | 18:56 |
| godlygeek | ok, well, thanks for the confirmation on that. | 18:56 |
| godlygeek | wish i could find a copy of the flash 10 beta 1 .so, but it doesn't seem to be hosted anywhere... :( | 19:00 |
| asac_ | godlygeek: which graphics chipset/driver? | 19:26 |
| armin76 | hows it asac_ :D | 19:31 |
| asac_ | ok ... i have a plan D | 19:43 |
| fta | asac_, what for ? | 19:44 |
| asac_ | bus to somewhere ... then by boat to vancouver :( | 19:44 |
| asac_ | to get to the airport | 19:44 |
| asac_ | i am stuck | 19:44 |
| fta | eh? | 19:44 |
| asac_ | http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/07/30/bc-highway-rockslide-whistler.html?ref=rss | 19:44 |
| asac_ | there is no way back except an 8 hour trip ... which is too long to get on plane in time | 19:44 |
| asac_ | i booked a float plane | 19:44 |
| asac_ | http://www.westcoastair.com/ | 19:45 |
| asac_ | but now they cannot assure that we can actually start because of bad weather :( | 19:45 |
| * asac_ crying | 19:45 | |
| asac_ | so i go by bus to another city and then by helicopter | 19:45 |
| fta | lol | 19:45 |
| asac_ | i claled and they cannot guarantee either | 19:45 |
| asac_ | because of bad weather | 19:45 |
| asac_ | so i try t get on a boat | 19:45 |
| asac_ | which unfortunately doesnt take reservations | 19:45 |
| asac_ | so i might get stuck there too | 19:46 |
| asac_ | if that fails i will never get back home | 19:46 |
| asac_ | thats far too much adrenaline for me | 19:46 |
| asac_ | i always knew it | 19:47 |
| asac_ | this trip would have a bad end | 19:47 |
| fta | who's taking care of your expenses ? | 19:47 |
| asac_ | myself for now | 19:47 |
| asac_ | then i will see | 19:47 |
| fta | woww | 19:47 |
| asac_ | i could have got on the bus this morning at 8am | 19:47 |
| asac_ | i booked the plane to avoid the 8-10 hour bus drive | 19:48 |
| asac_ | and now i failed | 19:48 |
| fta | too bad | 19:48 |
| asac_ | its soo bad that there is only one street to vancouver ... and that one is now busted | 19:48 |
| asac_ | ok ... now i go down to atm to get cash | 19:49 |
| fta | were you in that bus ? | 19:49 |
| asac_ | no :) | 19:49 |
| fta | good for you | 19:49 |
| asac_ | it happened on wednesday .... so i was here ;) | 19:49 |
| asac_ | thats a real massive rockslide | 19:49 |
| asac_ | like rocks size of houses | 19:49 |
| armin76 | poor asac, that happens when you don't bumb :P | 19:50 |
| asac_ | ok ... going to atm | 19:50 |
| asac_ | please press thumbs that they can verify my credit | 19:50 |
| asac_ | and the phone line isnt broken | 19:50 |
| asac_ | if i have no money i am lost | 19:50 |
| armin76 | lol | 19:50 |
| armin76 | guess next time you'll reject the invitation :P | 19:52 |
| fta | doesn't seem such a huge pile of rocks to move in a few days... | 19:52 |
| fta | "expected to close for 5 days" | 19:52 |
| armin76 | asac_: how much time on bus would be if the slide wouldn't happened? | 19:57 |
| armin76 | hrm, ff3.1a1 already? | 19:57 |
| asac_ | yeah. they are moving quick | 20:00 |
| asac_ | fta: they need to use dynamite and such | 20:00 |
| asac_ | there are other pictures in the local newspapers here that show the real extend of this | 20:00 |
| asac_ | its massive | 20:00 |
| armin76 | go fix it :P | 20:00 |
| armin76 | did the atm work? :D | 20:01 |
| asac_ | yeah .... bumb dynamite to v2.0 | 20:01 |
| asac_ | \o/ | 20:01 |
| asac_ | yes | 20:01 |
| asac_ | i have money | 20:01 |
| asac_ | money | 20:01 |
| asac_ | money | 20:01 |
| asac_ | most likely much more than i can ever spend | 20:01 |
| armin76 | whee :D | 20:01 |
| asac_ | but well. currently i just care about getting out of this | 20:01 |
| asac_ | flight to london is not changable ... one-way ticket would cost 1400 Pounds ... so there is plenty of money i can spend here | 20:02 |
| armin76 | asac_: tried walking? :D | 20:02 |
| fta | why not stay a few more days and visit the country ? | 20:03 |
| asac_ | flight not changable | 20:03 |
| asac_ | see above | 20:03 |
| fta | swim the river then take the next bus, or call a taxi | 20:03 |
| armin76 | isn't there a train or what? | 20:04 |
| asac_ | nope | 20:04 |
| asac_ | ok i have to checkout | 20:04 |
| asac_ | front desk called | 20:04 |
| asac_ | taking a quick shower | 20:04 |
| asac_ | cu all | 20:04 |
| asac_ | whish me luck | 20:04 |
| fta | the rails are close to the road | 20:04 |
| fta | under the rocks | 20:04 |
| fta | asac_, good luck | 20:05 |
| Jazzva | evening... | 22:37 |
| fta | hi back | 22:38 |
| Jazzva | hey, fta :) | 22:38 |
| fta | virt-manager is seriously broken | 22:38 |
| Jazzva | what's virt-manager? | 22:38 |
| fta | i'm not able to install anything | 22:38 |
| fta | virtualization | 22:38 |
| fta | guest os | 22:38 |
| Jazzva | ah... too bad :( | 22:39 |
| Jazzva | file a bug :) | 22:39 |
| fta | i managed to install what i wanted manually using virt-install | 22:39 |
| Jazzva | :) | 22:40 |
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