RainCT | uhm.. if I've created a presentation from a template and choosed a certain transition effect to do between slides, how can I later change that effect? | 00:49 |
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RainCT | ah, found it | 00:52 |
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jpds | Moin. | 08:07 |
pochu | hi jpds | 08:10 |
jpds | Hola pochu. | 08:12 |
iulian | Hiya guys. | 08:23 |
jpds | Hey iulian. | 08:28 |
AndrewGee | Hi. Anyone available to look at giving the second advocation to osm-gps-map - A GTK widget to embed openstreetmap? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=osm-gps-map | 08:46 |
jpds | AndrewGee: OK; looks good to me, but why did you have so many spaces in the Dependency lines? | 08:54 |
AndrewGee | jpds: Not sure actually. Shall I sort that out and re upload? | 08:55 |
jpds | AndrewGee: No, I'll fix it before I upload to the archive | 08:55 |
AndrewGee | jpds: Ah okay. Thanks :) | 08:55 |
jpds | Just have to wait for my key machine to come up.. :/ | 08:56 |
jpds | stdin: Could you possibly look into bug #322051 ? I've tried fixing it myself but can't get it to work. | 09:02 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 322051 in ubuntu-dev-tools "dgetlp doesn't work with dscs offered by launchpad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/322051 | 09:02 |
jpds | It works with http:// URLs, but I can't get it to work with https:// | 09:04 |
slytherin | does anyone have some time to review a license (actually multiple) to see if the package is fit for archive? | 09:26 |
hyperair | mok0: ping. could i bother you with a package today? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=geanyprj | 09:36 |
iulian | hyperair: I will take a look at it later. | 09:40 |
* iulian is having breakfast now. | 09:40 | |
iulian | mok0 is already overloaded ;) | 09:40 |
hyperair | iulian: ah thanks =) | 09:41 |
pochu | slytherin: link? | 09:43 |
slytherin | pochu: let me find. I was reading a local copy of license | 09:44 |
slytherin | pochu: http://offo.sourceforge.net/hyphenation/licenses.html | 09:44 |
slytherin | pochu: these are the hyphenation patterns which are not part of fop main distribution anymore. I want to package them provided they can go in one bundle. | 09:45 |
mok0 | Hi hyperair | 09:46 |
pochu | slytherin: at least English hyphenation patterns are non-free | 09:46 |
pochu | "Restriction: These hyphenation patterns may not be changed in any way" | 09:47 |
mok0 | I uploaded one of your geany packages last night | 09:47 |
slytherin | pochu: you mean en_GB right? | 09:47 |
pochu | slytherin: yes | 09:48 |
slytherin | pochu: what about en_US 'Can be used freely for non-commercial purposes'? | 09:48 |
a|wen | hi, if i have a security update for a package in universe, is it then enough to subscribe motu-swat or should i subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors as well? | 09:50 |
pochu | slytherin: the LaTeX Project Public License is free (and GPL and Apache are too, of course :) | 09:50 |
hyperair | mok0: yeah i saw. thanks =) | 09:50 |
fabrice_sp | Morning! (well, not so morning :-) ). Is it worth packaging an app that is already in Ubuntu, but using Mono, so that it doesn't use mono anymore? A C port of autopano-sift has been written (Bug #323836) | 09:50 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 323836 in hugin "[needs packaging] Package and use autopano-sift-c" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/323836 | 09:50 |
pochu | slytherin: the link doesn't exist, but that would be non-free if you can't use for commercial purposes (e.g. sell it) | 09:51 |
mok0 | fabrice_sp: interesting | 09:51 |
slytherin | a|wen: First subscribe motu-sru (not motu-swat) | 09:53 |
geser | slytherin: en_US is non-free | 09:54 |
slytherin | pochu: assuming that en_GB and en_US are non-free, are they at least fit for multiverse? | 09:54 |
a|wen | slytherin: oh, i'll do that (tried to look at how similar bugs was subscribed) | 09:54 |
slytherin | or should I exclude en_US and en_GB from the binary? | 09:54 |
fabrice_sp | mok0, I haven't found any references of autopano in Debian (only in multimedia-debian), so no sync possible :-) | 09:58 |
pochu | slytherin: from reading only that description, I'd say en_US fits for multiverse. I think en_GB does too, but am less sure about that. But I haven't read the licenses, that's only from reading that restrictions line :) | 09:58 |
mok0 | fabrice_sp: what's it for? | 09:58 |
slytherin | hmm | 09:58 |
a|wen | slytherin: should i do anything else apart from that to brig attention to it as a security issue? | 09:59 |
slytherin | a|wen: mark it as security issue and add a link to CVE | 09:59 |
pochu | slytherin, a|wen: I thought for security issues you could subscribe motu-swat directly, as if it's going to go to $distro-security, it doesn't need an SRU approval | 09:59 |
slytherin | ahh, I got confused. I thought it was similar to SWAT team for X packages | 10:00 |
fabrice_sp | mok0, it is used in hugin to find matching points between pictures, to make panoramas. | 10:00 |
fabrice_sp | mok0, Also, from a patent stand point, I discovered that the sift algorithm is patented in the USA. :-/ | 10:00 |
slytherin | pochu: geser: I am now thinking if I should put each pattern in separate binary. That way all the binaries except en_GB and en_US will live in universe. | 10:01 |
a|wen | pochu: okay, thx ... right now both motu-sru and motu-swat ended up being subscribed, then it should have a chance | 10:01 |
geser | slytherin: fi is also for multiverse, hu isn't redistributable at all, | 10:01 |
pochu | slytherin: in any case put all the free ones in one binary, and all the non-free that fit for multiverse in another one... but not one binary per package, I'd say | 10:02 |
geser | slytherin: you can't put the source into universe | 10:02 |
a|wen | pochu: i should keep the bug as private, right? | 10:03 |
slytherin | geser: I know. source will still go into multiverse. | 10:04 |
geser | a|wen: no need to keep the bug private if the issue is already public (known) | 10:04 |
* a|wen makes it public ... thx | 10:04 | |
stdin | jpds: launchpadlibrarian.net is http, I've never seen a https link for it, and dget will handle the https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/<release>/+source/<source>/<version>/+files/<file> links | 10:35 |
iulian | fta: Have you tested geany-plugin-prj to see if it works? I don't have geany installed on my system. | 10:41 |
hyperair | iulian: i've tested it on intrepid, it woks fine. | 10:49 |
hyperair | iulian: haven't tested on jaunty though | 10:49 |
iulian | I'm testing it right now. | 10:53 |
hyperair | iulian: alright. brb i'm gonna log out to test a bug with gnome-keyring | 10:54 |
iulian | hyperair: I have just uploaded it. Thank you. | 11:05 |
hyperair | iulian: thanks | 11:06 |
soc | hi | 11:31 |
soc | someone from debian online? | 11:31 |
soc | my package is now in ubuntu and i filed an itp for debian ... how do i have to proceed? | 11:31 |
iulian | soc: Look for a DD to sponsor your package. | 11:32 |
iulian | soc: Send an email to debian-mentors@lists.debian.org. | 11:32 |
soc | and aksing for a sponsor? | 11:35 |
Laney | soc: Also visit #debian-mentors on OFTC | 11:35 |
soc | what does sponsor mean? | 11:35 |
soc | ah ok | 11:35 |
quadrispro | could anyone take a look at here? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=gnome-format | 11:36 |
stdin | jpds: do you know/work with python? | 11:38 |
jpds | stdin: Yes. | 11:40 |
stdin | jpds: I wrote a python rewrite of dgetlp a while ago, but I forgot about it. could you give it a look over: http://pastebin.com/f284785b5 | 11:41 |
Laney | Where on LP does dget not work? | 11:42 |
stdin | Laney: the +queue | 11:43 |
jpds | stdin: Looks good, should I put it into u-d-t replace the bash script? | 11:45 |
stdin | jpds: IMO it works better than the bash script and provides better error handling. so I'd say yes :) I've tested it a little but not rigorously | 11:46 |
stdin | it "Works For Me" | 11:47 |
stdin | and I'll probably smooth out the code some time, just to make it look nicer | 11:48 |
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jpds | stdin: Pushed to main branch, let me know if you want changes added. | 11:55 |
stdin | jpds: sure :) | 11:56 |
Laney | stdin: Gives a traceback when run with no args | 11:59 |
Laney | and you should consider updating the manpage ;) | 11:59 |
stdin | Laney: right, so how does one edit the manpage without knowing the language it's written in? | 12:12 |
Laney | stdin: It shouldn't be too hard to edit the existing one, following that syntax, should it? | 12:13 |
stdin | sure, but I was wondering if there was and "easy" way ;) | 12:13 |
geser | stdin: I don't know the manpage syntax either but I managed to update manpages just by looking how it's done at other places in the manpage and copy that | 12:14 |
geser | !info gmanedit | 12:15 |
ubottu | gmanedit (source: gmanedit): GTK+ man pages editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-1.1 (intrepid), package size 48 kB, installed size 240 kB | 12:15 |
Laney | ^ | 12:15 |
geser | you could also try this app out (never used it myself) | 12:15 |
stdin | ok, give me a minute to change it | 12:17 |
AnAnt | Hello, I am installing a font, how do I make the defoma hints file for it ? | 12:22 |
stdin | hah, gmanedit segfaults on exit | 12:44 |
iulian | stdin: Please file a bug. | 12:57 |
stdin | iulian: already have | 12:57 |
stdin | jpds: here's a patch to fix the error Laney mentioned and updated manpage http://stdin.me.uk/diffs/dgetlp.diff | 13:03 |
Laney | stdin: I suggest displaying the usage info | 13:03 |
stdin | Laney: it does now | 13:03 |
Laney | Oh, maybe I misunderstand what parser.error is then | 13:03 |
stdin | http://paste.ubuntu.com/112431/ | 13:04 |
AnAnt | defoma-hints is not working ! | 13:05 |
AnAnt | should a font package build-depend on fontforge ?! | 13:09 |
Vest | Hello to everybody. I'm new here and I have a question. | 13:10 |
Vest | My situation is the next one. I'm a developer of my own game, called "Gnome Quod", I've published it in ppa.launchpad.net. But I want to know, can my program be placed in official Ubuntu Repositories? | 13:10 |
pochu | Vest: under what license is it released? | 13:12 |
Vest | pochu: I release it with GPL v3 license | 13:12 |
Vest | http://sourceforge.net/projects/gquod | 13:12 |
Vest | and it was sucessfully build with launchpad, https://launchpad.net/~vest-84/+archive | 13:14 |
pochu | Vest: then yes (because of the license) | 13:15 |
pochu | Vest: would you like to maintain it? | 13:15 |
Vest | yes, of course. | 13:16 |
pochu | Vest: then you want to upload it to REVU, so that MOTUs can review it and upload to the archive if it's right | 13:16 |
pochu | !revu | 13:16 |
ubottu | REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU | 13:16 |
Vest | pochu: thank you for help. I'll read it | 13:18 |
Vest | pochu: what kind of ristrictions will I have in future, if I become a maintainer of my own game? | 13:19 |
__Ali__ | anyone knows an library debian packaging which installation path of /usr/lib/MyLib rather than /usr/lib? | 13:21 |
geser | don't mix packaging and upstream code | 13:21 |
__Ali__ | whatever i tried, the outcome debian package does not hold any shared objects | 13:21 |
vadi2 | Hi, can someone help this person in regards to gpl, a proprietary piece and packaging: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6656152&postcount=63 | 13:21 |
Vest | pochu: do you know, should my debian/changelof have version (0.2.1-7ubuntu0(1,2,3...)) instead of simple (0.2.1-7)? | 13:46 |
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AnAnt | ahem, should a font package build-depend on fontforge ?! | 13:47 |
AnAnt | Hello, can anyone confirm a bug ? | 13:59 |
AnAnt | I mean, I found a bug, after searching launchpad, I found that someone else reported the same bug | 13:59 |
AnAnt | can I set the bug status to confirmed then ? | 14:00 |
jpds | stdin: Pushed. Thanks! | 14:00 |
loic-m | Vest: if the package doesn't exist dor Debian yet, end it with -0ubuntu1 | 14:03 |
loic-m | s/dor/for/ | 14:04 |
Vest | loic-m: my package isn't published yet in debian archive. so, I have to add the ending manually? | 14:05 |
loic-m | Vest: the ending should be created when you use tha packaging tools, like dh_make | 14:07 |
loic-m | Vest: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Videos especially http://videos.ubuntu.com/motuvideos/packaging_101.ogg | 14:08 |
Vest | loic-m: thank you, I understand. can you tell me, should I use jaunty version instead of intrepid when I want to publish my project in official repos? | 14:08 |
loic-m | Vest: it's a step-by-step, follow it while packaging from scratch, pause for each step | 14:08 |
loic-m | Vest: always use the development version | 14:09 |
loic-m | Vest: if you can watch the video while doing it, it makes it really easy | 14:09 |
loic-m | Vest: dev version = jaunty for teh moment | 14:10 |
Vest | can I people with intrepid use jaunty versions? | 14:10 |
Vest | *can people | 14:10 |
geser | in most cases no because of the dependencies | 14:11 |
zpowers | geser: not true | 14:11 |
StevenK | He said most cases' | 14:11 |
zpowers | Package pinning is not very difficult to do | 14:12 |
zpowers | Not even for most cases, I'd say it'd be more like a few | 14:12 |
StevenK | zpowers: Sure, and when you pulled in libc6 from Jaunty or something else like d-bus, it's essentially game over | 14:12 |
Vest | I asked, because I have repos in ppa.launchpad. and changelog allows to use only one version of ubuntu (by the way I've tried the situation "intrepid jaunty", as described in help.lanchpad) | 14:12 |
AnAnt | StevenK: nice one, especially that Vest is developing a game | 14:13 |
StevenK | It's just an expression | 14:13 |
loic-m | Vest: if you want it in the repositories for intrepid, upload to revu for Jaunty, then request a backport | 14:13 |
AnAnt | StevenK: yup | 14:14 |
Laney | revu isn't for backports... | 14:14 |
Vest | a! so... that is how I have to do... I see... how interesting | 14:14 |
loic-m | Vest: if you want to upload to your PPA, once your packages is ok for jaunty, just edit the changelog, change the version by appending something like ~intrepid1 (note the ~) after -0ubuntu1 | 14:15 |
loic-m | Vest: then create an entry for intrepid (your ppa of course) in your .dput.cf and upload to it | 14:15 |
Laney | Vest: PPAs support copying between different releases, so you can upload to Intrepid and then copy the sources to Jaunty to have it build there too | 14:16 |
Vest | aha... good. and, do you know, if I upload my sources to REVU, they will have a status "Needs Review". Can I continue the work under my application and reupload the new version over the old one? | 14:17 |
loic-m | Laney: was that fixed? Last week when I ask in #launchpad, it was still only possible between different ppa (if you want to rebuild from source) | 14:18 |
geser | Laney: doesn't it only work when he copies the debs too? | 14:18 |
geser | Vest: yes | 14:18 |
loic-m | Laney: just checked, and it's not possible yet, at least on my ppa | 14:18 |
Laney | loic-m: Hmm? Set destination to "this PPA", series to "Jaunty" and ask to rebuild? | 14:19 |
Laney | I admit I've only seen the UI, not actually tried it | 14:19 |
loic-m | Laney: it throws an error. Try it and you'll see it doesn't work | 14:20 |
geser | Laney: this won't work because of the pool structure | 14:20 |
Vest | geser, should I use the option -f (dput -f) to overwrite the package with the same name, or not? | 14:20 |
Laney | geser: That's disappointing then | 14:21 |
geser | yes (or remove the <pkg>.upload file) | 14:21 |
Vest | geser, and afterwards I remove my package and upload it again. will it's queue changed to last? :) | 14:22 |
geser | Vest: I don't know how the sorting on REVU really works | 14:23 |
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Vest | sorry, guys, can you help me with this problem? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/gnome-quod-0902011503/lintian I can't understand what's wrong (I don't write build-essential as dependency) | 14:33 |
geser | Vest: you build-depend on (unversioned) libc6-dev which is part of build-essentials -> you don't need to specify it | 14:35 |
geser | and the other error is, that you source package is native (has no .diff.gz) | 14:36 |
Vest | hm | 14:36 |
Vest | thankx | 14:36 |
Vest | *thanks | 14:36 |
AnAnt | is defoma still to be used ? | 14:48 |
AnAnt | LP 308539 | 14:48 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 308539 in defoma "/usr/bin/defoma-hints broken due to deleted dependency" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/308539 | 14:48 |
MaduserTr | The legal check from revu.ubuntuwire.com. Is this a program I can ran localy on my maschine? | 14:54 |
jpds | MaduserTr: lintian, I think it is. | 14:56 |
pochu | it's licensecheck | 14:58 |
pochu | `licensecheck -R *` | 14:58 |
pochu | but that's not enough, it's just a tool to help you | 14:58 |
MaduserTr | jpds, pochu: Thnaks | 14:59 |
BiNaRi0 | hi everyone | 15:06 |
BiNaRi0 | keyserver.ubuntu.com is down | 15:06 |
BiNaRi0 | does anyone know what happened about it ? | 15:06 |
pochu | BiNaRi0: I think #canonical-sysadmin is where the people maintaining that service hang | 15:07 |
BiNaRi0 | thanks | 15:07 |
pochu | np | 15:07 |
* directhex wonders who did funny things to one of his sync bugs | 15:08 | |
Laney | check the activity log | 15:09 |
directhex | i did. someone marked it invalid & converted it to a question, but didn't say, i dunno, WHY | 15:13 |
iulian | Hmm, that's odd. What is the bug #, directhex? | 15:13 |
directhex | 323948 | 15:14 |
directhex | i reopened it. which i know is poor form, but so is closing bugs without comment | 15:14 |
sebner | bug #323948 | 15:15 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 323948 in cli-common "Please sync cli-common 0.6.0 (main) from Debian experimental (main)." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/323948 | 15:15 |
sebner | directhex: funny ^^ | 15:16 |
iulian | Well, it's not funny... | 15:17 |
iulian | Bleah | 15:17 |
henrik-hw0 | superm1: fixed FTBS in rt2860-linux-sta and rt2870-linux-sta packages just now. | 16:29 |
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bmhm | hi, I need a clue what pbuilder tries to do here: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/393976/ | 17:31 |
bmhm | I don't see why it wants to copy a .gnome-file | 17:31 |
geser | use pbuilder on the .dsc file and not on the .changes file | 17:34 |
bmhm | oh my, that did it | 17:36 |
bmhm | how embarrassing | 17:36 |
bmhm | thanks | 17:37 |
hyperair | lol | 17:39 |
bmhm | well just another question: How do I build same releases for different distros? Do I need to change debian/changelog somehow? | 17:43 |
hyperair | depends | 17:43 |
bmhm | using dpkg-buildpackage and pbuilder and dput | 17:43 |
hyperair | if you're uploading to a PPA, then you need to alter debian/changelog | 17:44 |
hyperair | set the distro | 17:44 |
hyperair | otherwise, just run it thorugh pbuilder | 17:44 |
hyperair | the appropriate pbuilder | 17:44 |
bmhm | yeah I want to use dput | 17:44 |
bmhm | just like sed 's/intrepid/jaunty/g'? | 17:45 |
hyperair | um | 17:45 |
hyperair | no | 17:45 |
hyperair | just the top one will do | 17:45 |
hyperair | don't change every single instance of it | 17:45 |
hyperair | oh if you're uploading to PPA, you'll need different version numbers | 17:45 |
hyperair | just mangle them by adding ~distro1 or something | 17:45 |
hyperair | you can't upload the same version to different distros in PPA | 17:46 |
bmhm | ah so like ubuntu1 for intrepid and ubuntu2 for jaunty? thats why i asked | 17:46 |
bmhm | I need kind of a concept | 17:47 |
geser_ | or use ubuntu1 for jaunty and ubuntu1~intrepid1 for intrepid | 17:48 |
bmhm | ok | 17:48 |
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hyperair | geser: i still wouldn't use ubuntu1 for jaunty | 17:50 |
hyperair | you often want the new versino to override the old | 17:50 |
bmhm | anyway, that did it for intrepid so far: https://edge.launchpad.net/~globalmenu-team/+archive/ppa | 17:51 |
* RainCT ponders creating a printers-are-evil LP group :P | 17:51 | |
geser | hyperair: ubuntu1 > ubuntu1~intrepid1 | 17:52 |
bmhm | Hmm. I haven't seen a guide or something explaining how to name versions. | 17:52 |
bmhm | why not put a name to each distribution like ubuntu1~jaunty1 | 17:52 |
hyperair | geser: ubuntu1 (from main repos) > ubuntu1~jaunty1 (jaunty PPA) > ubuntu1~intrepid1 (intrepid PPA) | 17:52 |
hyperair | bmhm: there's a PPA guide somewhere | 17:53 |
hyperair | bmhm: go read that one | 17:53 |
bmhm | iss ppa1~jaunty1 > ubuntu1 ? | 17:53 |
hyperair | rule is always mangle your versions to enter PPA unless you want to screw up your upgrade path | 17:53 |
bmhm | hyperair: where is somewhere? Ubuntu docs? Launchpad docs? Some hidden dev docs? | 17:55 |
bmhm | I read docs almost everywhere by now | 17:55 |
geser | bmhm: no, as p < u | 17:55 |
bmhm | then why not just leave the "ubuntu" out, like "gnome2-globalmenu~intrepid1" "gnome2-globalmenu~jaunty1" | 17:56 |
geser | the debian policy has a description of how version sorting works | 17:56 |
bmhm | kk | 17:56 |
bmhm | I was just looking for a recommendation how to name my changes ^^" | 17:56 |
hyperair | bmhm: launchpad docs | 17:56 |
geser | don't mix upstream version and ubuntu revision, that are two different fields | 17:56 |
bmhm | that's how I did it by now: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~globalmenu-team/+archive/ppa | 17:57 |
bmhm | hyperair: I will take a look at it | 17:57 |
hyperair | bmhm: you shouldn't do that. | 17:58 |
bmhm | so what's wrong? | 17:59 |
bmhm | err... what can I do better | 17:59 |
hyperair | <upstreamversion>-0ubuntu1~ppa<your ppa revision> | 18:00 |
hyperair | assuming that debian and ubuntu dont have it | 18:00 |
bmhm | they don't have it, correct | 18:01 |
bmhm | I found the guilde: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Versioning | 18:01 |
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bmhm | myapp_1.0-2~ppa1~intrepid1 contra myapp_1.0-2~ppa1~hardy1 | 18:02 |
bmhm | oh I did use a hyphen instead of a tilde | 18:02 |
hyperair | and htat makes all the differecne | 18:05 |
bmhm | ah there's a dead link | 18:06 |
bmhm | https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#copyingpackages | 18:06 |
bmhm | a link to Ubuntu Mobile team's PPA copy packages | 18:06 |
bmhm | is this better? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~globalmenu-team/+archive/ppa | 18:10 |
hyperair | very much so | 18:11 |
bmhm | ok, thanks a lot then for helping | 18:12 |
hyperair | no problem | 18:12 |
hyperair | gtk2-globalmenu... | 18:13 |
hyperair | is that the one where you strip the menus out from the windows and stick it onto the panel? | 18:13 |
bmhm | re | 18:24 |
bmhm | exactly | 18:24 |
hyperair | awesome. the next time i feel bored with my current interface i'll check it out | 18:24 |
hyperair | i accidentally installed it once on arch | 18:24 |
bmhm | hyperair: I joined for building packages only. As far as I can see, preferences won't work yet and there's no icon for switching apps etc. | 18:25 |
bmhm | but screenshots on http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/ look promising | 18:25 |
hyperair | hahah | 18:26 |
hyperair | you know what? | 18:26 |
hyperair | that sounds like me | 18:26 |
hyperair | one and a half years ago | 18:26 |
hyperair | ;) | 18:26 |
hyperair | no wait | 18:26 |
hyperair | less than a year | 18:26 |
hyperair | i joined the Banshee Team | 18:26 |
hyperair | and founded the Banshee Unstable Team | 18:27 |
hyperair | for packaging | 18:27 |
bmhm | yeah | 18:27 |
Laney | banshee <3 | 18:28 |
Laney | hyperair: Do you know when the next release will be? I read that it'll enable gnome-do to have a full plugin | 18:29 |
hyperair | Laney: =) | 18:29 |
bmhm | hyperair: does banshee support MPRIS? | 18:29 |
hyperair | bmhm: no it doesn't | 18:29 |
bmhm | that's sad | 18:29 |
bmhm | I should submit a patch | 18:29 |
hyperair | go ahead =) | 18:30 |
bmhm | Audacious does, but it doesn't integrate at all into gnome :( | 18:30 |
hyperair | bmhm: you know enough C# to do so? | 18:30 |
bmhm | it's C#? :-/ | 18:30 |
hyperair | bmhm: what's mpris used for anyway? i only see it used in pidgin-mpris | 18:30 |
hyperair | bmhm: and yes it's C# | 18:30 |
bmhm | I can code C, IBM Mainframe Assembler and Java. | 18:30 |
hyperair | bmhm: that's the reason why i've only submitted one patch for banshee before, and that's for their at-that-time defunct shell loader script | 18:31 |
bmhm | well I can code a little object pascal, too :D | 18:31 |
hyperair | i can do C, C++, shell, python, but i've only really done major patching in shell and C/C++ | 18:31 |
hyperair | i hate pascal and everything to do with it | 18:32 |
bmhm | really?? | 18:32 |
hyperair | yep | 18:32 |
bmhm | I LOVE it <3 | 18:32 |
bmhm | it's so clean and straight-foreward | 18:32 |
hyperair | well i think it has omething to do with me starting with turbo pascal | 18:32 |
hyperair | *shudder* | 18:32 |
bmhm | So did I, in school | 18:32 |
hyperair | what a strange syntax | 18:32 |
bmhm | I call it beautiful. That's why I like python, too, I gues ;-) | 18:33 |
hyperair | i like python | 18:33 |
hyperair | python's syntax is clean | 18:33 |
hyperair | but not pascal's =\ | 18:33 |
bmhm | yeah, I should have bought a python book by now | 18:33 |
bmhm | ok let's try banshee | 18:33 |
hyperair | no wai | 18:33 |
hyperair | i learnt python from the internet | 18:34 |
hyperair | just as i learnt C and C++ from the internet | 18:34 |
hyperair | and shell | 18:34 |
bmhm | wow | 18:34 |
bmhm | I like books, I mean "real" books :) | 18:35 |
pochu | bmhm: me too :) I print stuff from internet to read it in the bed ;) | 18:35 |
pochu | that's not exactly a real book, but it's closer than reading it from the screen :) | 18:36 |
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bmhm | :D | 18:36 |
RainCT | pochu: you kill trees!! :P :P | 18:36 |
pochu | heh | 18:37 |
pochu | I was looking to buy a book this evening from Oreilly, but the transport fee is actually more expensive than the book itself :( | 18:38 |
bmhm | nah banshee is not good for me | 18:38 |
pochu | so if someone is coming to Spain from the US, tell me ;) | 18:38 |
bmhm | ... or to germany :D | 18:38 |
pochu | bmhm: rhythmbox is C! :-) | 18:38 |
bmhm | i know pochu, but rhythmbox has other problems | 18:38 |
bmhm | I stick with amarok i think | 18:39 |
hyperair | rhythmbox has this annoying "feature" where it bugs me to install codecs which can't be fuond upon startup everytime | 18:39 |
hyperair | and leaks memory faster than a sieve leaks water | 18:39 |
pochu | bmhm: but amarok doesn't integrate well into GNOME! ;) | 18:39 |
RainCT | pochu: right.. I ordered my research project as a book (from lulu.com) and transport was the same prize as the book | 18:39 |
pochu | that sucks :( | 18:39 |
bmhm | yeah i know. But still better than audacios. Rhythmbox and banshee lack expert settings :( | 18:40 |
hyperair | bmhm: what are you looking for exactly? | 18:40 |
bmhm | like choosing specific folders to scan for media, or setting more advanced options for ogg/flac encoding | 18:40 |
pochu | hyperair: how much memory does banshee waste? | 18:40 |
hyperair | regarding that, poke around in gconf | 18:40 |
pochu | here rhythmbox is eating 40MB after several hours (I think more than a day) | 18:40 |
hyperair | pochu: somewhere aruond 50-90MB on my notebook | 18:41 |
pochu | heh | 18:41 |
hyperair | after a week | 18:41 |
hyperair | no, more than that | 18:41 |
hyperair | i don't shut down | 18:41 |
pochu | and you say rhythmbox leaks? ;) | 18:41 |
hyperair | i hibernate and restore | 18:41 |
hyperair | oh yeah sure i do | 18:41 |
RainCT | wow.. 40MB here too (after 6 hours) | 18:41 |
hyperair | it reached 500MB on my notebook | 18:41 |
hyperair | >=( | 18:41 |
pochu | heh | 18:41 |
hyperair | you call that _not_ leaking? | 18:41 |
RainCT | but I still have 3GB free anyway :P | 18:41 |
bmhm | yay | 18:41 |
pochu | that's probably fixed now :) | 18:41 |
hyperair | i have 2GB total | 18:42 |
pochu | RainCT: lol | 18:42 |
bmhm | I got 2 in total :/ | 18:42 |
bmhm | xD | 18:42 |
* pochu has 2 too | 18:42 | |
hyperair | besides, banshee's got a more shiny look to it | 18:42 |
hyperair | with the custom treeview | 18:42 |
bmhm | yeah thats nice | 18:42 |
bmhm | but I still struggle with the media library | 18:42 |
bmhm | ah | 18:42 |
bmhm | purging... | 18:42 |
hyperair | what's wrong? | 18:42 |
hyperair | oh yeah banshee has awesome searching support | 18:42 |
bmhm | I can't choose a specific folder to import | 18:43 |
hyperair | yes you can | 18:43 |
hyperair | set your media library folder | 18:43 |
bmhm | I did | 18:43 |
bmhm | nothing to be imported | 18:43 |
hyperair | and import from folder | 18:43 |
bmhm | oO | 18:43 |
* pochu likes rhythmbox interface | 18:43 | |
hyperair | ctrl+i | 18:43 |
RainCT | bmhm: memory is cheap nowadays... 4GB instead of 2GB was just 10€ iirc (+15€ more to switch from 6xx to 800 Mhz) | 18:43 |
* hyperair likes banshee interface | 18:43 | |
bmhm | RainCT: I got DDR1 - it's not that cheap | 18:44 |
pochu | RainCT: as long as it's not from manufacturers, yes ;) | 18:44 |
hyperair | bmhm: same here | 18:44 |
bmhm | ah it's "open location" in german | 18:44 |
bmhm | I thought that's for URIs | 18:44 |
hyperair | DDR1 1GB RAM on my desktop was twice the price that of DDR2 | 18:44 |
bmhm | bloody translations | 18:44 |
bmhm | hyperair: yeah, I bought 1GiB for € 35 some months ago | 18:45 |
RainCT | (DDR1 = old memory?) | 18:45 |
hyperair | um it was RM300 here | 18:45 |
hyperair | MYR | 18:45 |
hyperair | i'm not sure about the conversion | 18:45 |
hyperair | either x4 or x7 | 18:45 |
pochu | RainCT: yeah | 18:46 |
bmhm | hyperair: banshee didn't ask me to choose a folder a second ago... | 18:46 |
bmhm | anyway now it's working | 18:46 |
hyperair | lol | 18:46 |
pochu | bmhm: DDR1 is the same as DDR400? | 18:46 |
bmhm | yeah | 18:46 |
hyperair | 227 | 18:46 |
hyperair | or was it 3something | 18:47 |
bmhm | I got dual channel, so it's called 800 (but it's wrong in fact) | 18:47 |
pochu | this friday I bought a 512MB DDR400 for 16€ ... | 18:47 |
bmhm | fastest DDR1 is PC3200 with 400 Mhz | 18:47 |
pochu | that's what I bought | 18:47 |
bmhm | thats cheap | 18:47 |
bmhm | bloody h*** not again | 18:48 |
bmhm | Ppl always forget to cross-sign my key :/ | 18:48 |
pochu | they had a 512MB module for 12€ too, but it was out of stock, and the 16€ one was from Kingston, so I thought I didn't want to wait for the other to be available ;) | 18:48 |
bmhm | so i sign theirs | 18:48 |
bmhm | but I won't get mine signed | 18:49 |
pochu | heh | 18:49 |
hyperair | bmhm: you're supposed to only get signed if you've met in person | 18:49 |
bmhm | I did! | 18:49 |
hyperair | and exchanged keys on pendrive or something | 18:49 |
pochu | hyperair: that's not necessary | 18:49 |
Laney | huh, no technology required | 18:49 |
bmhm | we do it by mail and check printed fingerprints | 18:49 |
hyperair | =O | 18:49 |
bmhm | just get sure not to buy ram from MDT | 18:49 |
hyperair | i don't know, i don't have any signatures on my key | 18:49 |
hyperair | and i haven't signed anyone's keys | 18:50 |
RainCT | pochu: you just need to compare the fingerprint, and knowing for sure that he is who he says he is | 18:50 |
pochu | right | 18:50 |
bmhm | then you don't have a web-of-trust, hyperair | 18:50 |
RainCT | (that is, having meet and seen a ID or already knowing him) | 18:50 |
pochu | but you can have your fingerprint in a piece of paper, and give it to the other person, showing you your ID card or passport | 18:50 |
bmhm | RainCT: you should check his ID-Card if you don't know him | 18:50 |
bmhm | yeah exactly | 18:50 |
RainCT | bmhm: that's what I said ^^ | 18:51 |
pochu | then the other person knows who are you, and when he arrives home, he checks that the key he's going to sign has your name | 18:51 |
bmhm | I was going to write a big PDF explaining PGP and web-of-trust and signing partys in detail, step-by-step | 18:51 |
pochu | (the key with the fingerprint you gave to him) | 18:51 |
bmhm | banshee hung up while indexing my files :P | 18:51 |
hyperair | =O | 18:51 |
bmhm | again | 18:52 |
bmhm | it happens when the error tab wants to show up | 18:52 |
geser | keysigning parties are fun | 18:53 |
hyperair | nobody i know really bothers with their keys | 18:53 |
bmhm | I've never been on one | 18:53 |
geser | the next one I will participate is during FOSDEM | 18:53 |
bmhm | I got a sign from c't, the best-known german computer magazine | 18:54 |
bmhm | http://www.heise-online.co.uk/ | 18:54 |
bmhm | it's better than /. | 18:54 |
bmhm | I think | 18:54 |
oojah | http://www.lysator.liu.se/~jc/wotsap/leafoftrust.html <- interesting read on pgp web of trust. | 18:55 |
bmhm | check out sig2dot | 18:55 |
bmhm | you can draw graphs | 18:55 |
geser | my public keyring is already to big for sig2dot, it takes forever to get a graph | 18:57 |
bmhm | geser: you can strip it | 18:59 |
bmhm | create a new temp-key | 18:59 |
bmhm | or use a 3D-graph | 18:59 |
bmhm | (which will take even longer) :P | 19:00 |
bmhm | [Debug 19:57:40.328] Downloaded cover art from Amazon | 19:03 |
bmhm | wtf banshee didn't even ask me! | 19:04 |
hyperair | you could disable the cover art extension | 19:04 |
bmhm | :P | 19:04 |
hyperair | no actually, it should show a progress bar | 19:04 |
bmhm | I think I'm going to switch to mpg321 ;-) | 19:04 |
RainCT | hyperair: what's the problem with it? | 19:04 |
hyperair | and more often than not, it'll hang taking 100% of your cpu | 19:04 |
hyperair | RainCT: problem with what? | 19:05 |
geser | I've 143 signatures on my key. If I want to graph it with all the other keys, it really takes long. | 19:05 |
geser | don't even try to use sig2dot on the Debian keyring :) | 19:05 |
RainCT | hyperair: cover art enabled | 19:05 |
bmhm | no, I just wanted to net :P | 19:05 |
bmhm | *nag | 19:05 |
bmhm | geser: the deb keyring has already been done | 19:05 |
hyperair | RainCT: well it likes to hang and eat my cpu. | 19:05 |
RainCT | hyperair: Ah. Use Rhythmbox :P | 19:05 |
hyperair | RainCT: no. frigging. way. | 19:06 |
hyperair | =p | 19:06 |
RainCT | hehe | 19:06 |
hyperair | hmm i need to figure out all the bugs i've fixed in the past so i can decorate my wiki page | 19:06 |
bmhm | :D | 19:07 |
hyperair | many of them are long lost and i don't remember them | 19:07 |
bmhm | banshee uses libnotify, I am beginning to like it =) | 19:07 |
hyperair | yeaa | 19:07 |
hyperair | hmm. | 19:08 |
hyperair | 3am | 19:08 |
* hyperair begins counting | 19:08 | |
Laney | are banshee's notify balloons a custom widget? | 19:08 |
hyperair | 5h 30 minutes to class. time to go to sleep | 19:08 |
Laney | Or does libnotify provide the sexy countdown thing | 19:08 |
bmhm | first one Laney | 19:08 |
hyperair | Laney: yes they are | 19:08 |
hyperair | Laney: custom | 19:08 |
bmhm | yes it does | 19:08 |
bmhm | libnotify CAN countdown | 19:08 |
bmhm | at least I am pretty sure | 19:08 |
geser | bmhm: how long did it take? | 19:08 |
hyperair | Laney: wait, you mean the notification thing? | 19:08 |
hyperair | Laney: or the timer? | 19:08 |
hyperair | eh i mean the progress tooltip thing | 19:09 |
Laney | any of it | 19:09 |
bmhm | the first one | 19:09 |
bmhm | the tooltip bubble | 19:09 |
hyperair | the bubble that looks like a dialog box? | 19:09 |
bmhm | popping out of your applet icon | 19:09 |
hyperair | when you switch songs, or when you hover over the icon? | 19:09 |
hyperair | one of them's a tooltip on steroids | 19:09 |
hyperair | the other is a libnotify thing | 19:09 |
hyperair | and yes libnotify can do countdowns.. in the form of a pizza like thing that gradually disappears | 19:10 |
hyperair | or was it gradually fills up | 19:10 |
hyperair | disappears | 19:10 |
bmhm | For me it's filling: Blue is the background, white the filling color ;-) | 19:10 |
Laney | yeah, the pizza was what I meant | 19:10 |
bmhm | yeah | 19:10 |
hyperair | if pizza slices were continuous and not discrete, and people ate at a constant pace, that's how it would look | 19:10 |
bmhm | it's built in | 19:10 |
hyperair | that's libnotify | 19:10 |
bmhm | :D | 19:10 |
Laney | oh, hot | 19:10 |
hyperair | i see it with pidgin-libnotify | 19:10 |
bmhm | yeah built in into libnotify | 19:10 |
hyperair | xchat doesn't have it though | 19:11 |
bmhm | ^^ | 19:11 |
hyperair | i'd like xchat to set timeouts too | 19:11 |
hyperair | i remember one thing i like about ubuntu's libnotify... it has rounded corners. | 19:11 |
hyperair | archlinux's doesn't, for some strange reason | 19:11 |
bmhm | aptitude install pidgin-libnotify | 19:12 |
bmhm | brb ^^ | 19:12 |
hyperair | heh | 19:13 |
Laney | I don't have rounded corners (: | 19:13 |
Laney | :( | 19:13 |
hyperair | hmm strange | 19:13 |
hyperair | it should have by default | 19:13 |
bmhm | yeah | 19:13 |
Laney | probably my theme | 19:14 |
hyperair | no it's not the theme | 19:14 |
hyperair | when i was in arch i was using this same theme | 19:14 |
hyperair | and there weren't rounded corners | 19:14 |
bmhm | try "notify-send" | 19:16 |
bmhm | it's got rounded corners for me | 19:16 |
Laney | nope | 19:16 |
hyperair | notify-send doesn't have the pizza thing | 19:18 |
hyperair | Laney: what's your version of notification-daemon | 19:18 |
hyperair | 0.3.7-1ubuntu15 here | 19:19 |
Laney | Version: 0.3.7-1ubuntu15 | 19:19 |
hyperair | hmm how very strange | 19:19 |
hyperair | try another theme? | 19:19 |
hyperair | you're using what? | 19:19 |
hyperair | human? | 19:19 |
Laney | I'd rather not | 19:19 |
hyperair | why not? | 19:19 |
Laney | because I like my current one :( | 19:19 |
hyperair | just test it | 19:19 |
Laney | I don't know what it was originally called - I've customised it | 19:19 |
hyperair | try with human or something | 19:19 |
hyperair | aah i see | 19:19 |
Laney | k :< | 19:19 |
hyperair | save it first? | 19:19 |
hyperair | hmm e-jat eh? that's a familiar nick. | 19:20 |
Laney | no change | 19:20 |
hyperair | how strange | 19:21 |
hyperair | maybe some package is making it act up | 19:21 |
hyperair | one way to check would be to try a clean home directory -- the guest session perhaps | 19:21 |
Laney | rofl | 19:22 |
Laney | I didn't even know it was a problem until 10 minutes ago | 19:22 |
Laney | I think I'll leave it ;( | 19:22 |
bmhm | xD | 19:23 |
hyperair | lol | 19:26 |
bmhm | I hate half-translated things. Our LUG Forum says "Post new Forenbeitrag" XD | 19:28 |
directhex | das ist sucky | 19:29 |
bmhm | =) | 19:30 |
RainCT | omg :P | 19:30 |
iulian | directhex: That's in German, right? | 19:31 |
RainCT | iulian: yep | 19:31 |
iulian | I mean, "das" and "ist" | 19:31 |
iulian | = this is? | 19:31 |
RainCT | and "Forenbeitrag" | 19:31 |
iulian | OK, calm down. | 19:31 |
RainCT | iulian: yep | 19:31 |
iulian | ;) | 19:32 |
RainCT | uhm? | 19:32 |
* RainCT is just doing time to not do homework :P | 19:32 | |
iulian | Those are the only two words I know in German and you come with complicated words like "Forenbeitrag". | 19:33 |
iulian | s/words/word. It is actually one word. | 19:33 |
henrik-hw0 | eng: forum contribs. | 19:33 |
RainCT | lol | 19:33 |
RainCT | or, better, "post" :P | 19:33 |
iulian | Oh, I know one more. "und", which means "and", if I'm not wrong. | 19:34 |
* iulian hides from German people. | 19:35 | |
RainCT | :D | 19:35 |
bmhm | lol | 19:35 |
* bmhm slaps uilian | 19:35 | |
bmhm | damn, missed =) | 19:35 |
bmhm | I mean the key :P | 19:35 |
iulian | Haha | 19:35 |
hyperair | the only thing german i know is the food. | 19:35 |
iulian | Ouh | 19:35 |
iulian | Actually, I know some more words in German. | 19:36 |
bmhm | of cause | 19:36 |
bmhm | kindergarten | 19:36 |
bmhm | Poltergeist | 19:36 |
bmhm | Blitzkrieg | 19:37 |
bmhm | U-Boot (-boat) | 19:37 |
bmhm | zigzag (zickzack) | 19:37 |
bmhm | etc. | 19:37 |
* hyperair loves having a complete archive mirror on LAN | 19:37 | |
* RainCT misses german bakery :P | 19:37 | |
bmhm | ? | 19:38 |
bmhm | meaning what? | 19:38 |
RainCT | bmhm: stuff like this http://www.otstrasbourg.fr/IMG/jpg/Picto_bretzel_1.jpg and this http://www.biomalz-back.de/produkte/einzelne_produktseiten/rezeptur_feine_backwaren/berliner400.jpg :P | 19:39 |
bmhm | ah misses = I miss | 19:39 |
RainCT | xD | 19:39 |
bmhm | i was thinking at Mrs. | 19:39 |
bmhm | :D | 19:39 |
RainCT | LOL | 19:39 |
bmhm | yeah german cuisine is tasty | 19:40 |
bmhm | Schnitzel, Curry-Wurst (= Sausage) and so on | 19:40 |
bmhm | ha I once visited australia, BBQ-Nation. I traveld all the way and the first thing I got was Schnitzel. | 19:40 |
RainCT | well, I guess I should poweroff the screens and get some work done :P | 19:42 |
bmhm | =) | 19:42 |
hyperair | and i should poweroff my notebook and get some sleep | 19:43 |
Laney | yes you should! | 19:43 |
bmhm | it's 8:47 pm here :> | 19:47 |
hyperair | it's 3:51AM here | 19:51 |
bmhm | wow | 19:51 |
hyperair | good night-uh-morning! | 19:51 |
bmhm | you should really get to bed! :P | 19:51 |
pochu | hyperair: from? | 19:52 |
pochu | hyperair: night | 19:52 |
hyperair | pochu: GMT+8 | 19:52 |
hyperair | pochu: singapore | 19:52 |
hyperair | now off to bed i go | 19:52 |
pochu | oh | 19:52 |
hyperair | class in 4h 40 mins | 19:52 |
pochu | hyperair: if I ever go to singapore, I'll tell you :) | 19:52 |
bmhm | I've been at the main airport | 19:53 |
bmhm | wow it's hot there | 19:53 |
__Ali__ | does this room's log available somewhere? | 21:23 |
Laney | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | 21:23 |
__Ali__ | i think someone tried to answer my question, but i was away | 21:23 |
savvas | __Ali__: they usually highlight you, if you have a script or a client that can detect your nickname and highlight, that's great :) | 21:36 |
__Ali__ | savvas, yes it was highlighted, but the log buffer was too small | 21:38 |
savvas | bummer | 21:39 |
savvas | no local logs? | 21:39 |
__Ali__ | what's the alternative of using .install files wiyj cdbs? | 21:39 |
bmhm | if it were important, __Ali__, they would have said your name again | 21:39 |
__Ali__ | with* | 21:39 |
savvas | it's a bit easier to do local search: grep -i "_ali_" ~/irclogs/Freenode/#ubuntu-motu.log | 21:40 |
__Ali__ | seems DEB_INSTALL_DIRS_ALL creates a directory, which cdbs command actutally copies the files? | 21:40 |
savvas | (for irssi client that is) | 21:40 |
__Ali__ | and, where the heck is the detailed cdbs manual? in the source code? just google DEB_INSTALL_DIRS_ALL and all u get is patch files | 21:42 |
savvas | that's the question I was about to ask :P | 21:44 |
savvas | __Ali__: I know there's a way to use "install:" in debian/rules to override the default stuff | 21:45 |
savvas | or do additional commands, not sure | 21:45 |
savvas | you have to use dh_install for that | 21:45 |
geser | __Ali__: have you looked inside /usr/share/doc/cdbs/? I've there cdbs-doc.html and cdbs-doc.pdf.gz | 21:46 |
savvas | firefox /usr/share/doc/cdbs/cdbs-doc.html | 21:47 |
savvas | oh, too late :) | 21:47 |
__Ali__ | thanks, wiered it's not online | 21:48 |
jpds | It is, madduck has it up somewhere. | 21:48 |
__Ali__ | actutally it's the samedoc which is online | 21:49 |
__Ali__ | but no command details | 21:49 |
__Ali__ | it's only in the code: http://www.google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en#WRVRMSS8dPQ/cdbs-0.4.48/1/rules/debhelper.mk.in&q=DEB_INSTALL_DIRS_ALL&l=23 | 21:50 |
__Ali__ | is dh_install used for copying lib* files o should one of dh_install* family members be called for that? | 21:51 |
Tonio_ | hi there | 21:53 |
Tonio_ | anyone available for revuing kmplayer please ? that would be nice since the konqueror component of the kde3 currently packaged version is broken with kde4... | 21:53 |
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