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j1mchello documentors15:45
bencrisford_l1mc: hi16:07
bencrisford_j1mc: hi *16:08
j1mchi bencrisford_16:09
ds305Formatting question for a ubuntu wiki guru ...19:41
ds305Making a page for StartUp-Manager. All references to "StartUp" are underlined/linked. How do I prevent this?19:41
nhandlerds305: In #ubuntu-news, they told me to add `` between the words (which works). Rocket2DMn told me that adding a ! in front of it is the proper way (I have not tried this)20:06
ds305Thanks nhandler , trying it.20:06
ds305nhandler: the ! works, appreciate your input.20:07
nhandler:)20:07
nhandlerShouldn't an APT line in the system docs be in <programlisting> tags instead of <screen> tags?21:38
DougieRichardsonscreen tag is more heavily used, which looks better in Yelp?21:38
nhandlerDougieRichardson: I don't know. I was just basing that question on what https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/StyleGuide/DocbookConventions says21:39
DougieRichardsonnhandler: yes I just read that too21:40
DougieRichardsonIf that's the convention then thats best - does it require the removal of whitespace as <screen> does?21:40
nhandlerIIRC it does21:41
nhandlerAlthough for one line of text, it isn't an issue21:41
DougieRichardsonOK use the <programlisting> tag then.21:42
nhandlerDougieRichardson: I don't think your proposal for dealing with stuff that the user needs to modify will work. The <emphasis> tag just doesn't make that section of text stand out enough.22:01
DougieRichardsonnhandler:What do you propose instead?22:02
nhandlerDougieRichardson: I'm not sure. Does yelp support bold text?22:03
DougieRichardsonOther than emphasis?22:03
nhandlerDougieRichardson: A normal <emphasis> for me shows up as italicized in yelp22:04
DougieRichardsonnhandler:I can't check at the moment I'm on a Windows box.22:05
nhandlerNo problem DougieRichardson. One more question, is <ulink url="http://somesite.com">some text</ulink> the correct syntax for a link to a website? Yelp complains whenever I click on a link made in that fashion22:09
DougieRichardsonnhandler:What's the erro22:10
nhandlerUnable to Load Page The requested URI "https://launchpad.net/" is invalid22:10
bencrisfordnhandler: do an F5 it has been doing that all day22:11
bencrisfordi just refresh and it normally works22:11
nhandlerbencrisford: This isn't on Launchpad itself. This is yelp displaying the error in an alert box. Launchpad works fine in FF22:11
bencrisfordoh, sorry :P22:12
bencrisfordi just tuned in at that moment22:12
bencrisfordsox22:12
bencrisfordsoz*22:12
bencrisfordnhandler: perhaps yelp doesnt support https://?22:12
nhandlerThat could be it bencrisford. Let me try with a normal http22:13
DougieRichardsonHave you tried using <link> rather than <ulink>22:13
nhandlerDougieRichardson: No, http://opensource.bureau-cornavin.com/crash-course/en/links.html said <ulink> should be used for web links <link> should be used for internal documentation links22:14
nhandlerbencrisford: Using http did not solve the problem. I'll try using <link> now22:15
bencrisfordok22:16
DougieRichardsonthe docbook tdg doesn't restrict link to internal and we don't use it for internal linking at all, we use xref22:16
bencrisfordi didnt even know there was a tag, all my docbook experience is with spux project so I have no need for internal linking22:17
nhandlerDougieRichardson: <link> didn't work either22:17
DougieRichardsonTry the link in Internet/Web Apps/SpamAssassin - I know they worked prior to Jaunty22:19
nhandlerDougieRichardson: No links are working for me. Do you think me being on a live cd has anything to do with this?22:27
DougieRichardsonPossibly. There might be a mime type issue22:27
nhandlerAnd as a note, serverguide/C/mail.xml uses <ulink> too22:29
DougieRichardsonulink is the correct tag22:30
nhandlerDougieRichardson: When you get a chance, please take a look at my merge proposal22:56
DougieRichardsonOK22:57
DougieRichardsonnhandler:Its a pain in the backside but the project I'm working on is Windows only. Closed source and crash prone.22:57
nhandlerLoads of fun DougieRichardson. Although, you can review merge proposals through email or the LP web interface ;)22:58
DougieRichardsonnhandler:Didn't know that22:58
nhandlerDougieRichardson: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Review22:59
DougieRichardsonnhandler:reading it now23:05
DougieRichardsonnhandler:typo in line 6523:07
DougieRichardsonnhandler:you are downloading from the PPA that want.23:07
nhandlerDougieRichardson: Fixed locally. Anything else before I push the update?23:08
DougieRichardsonNo push the update and I'll review/merge it23:09
DougieRichardsonNice page BTW23:09
nhandlerThanks DougieRichardson23:10
DougieRichardsonnhandler:What do you think about the learning idea.23:10
nhandlerDougieRichardson: I'm still interested in seeing how they go about incorporating other learning programs into it. I've been worried about duplication of efforts from the start23:11
DougieRichardsonnhandler:I'm worried they don't appreciate the community process and are in for the world's biggest disappointment on the 2nd June23:12

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