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BillynkidI'd like to form the #ubuntu-ug channel for the Ubuntu Uganda LoCo Team09:06
DJonesBillynkid: Have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto Thats got the information on how to best set up a team, also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoFAQ#How do I set up a LoCo team? and the links on that.  That should help you get started with setting up a team09:31
BillynkidI think I am on the right track, configuring the IRC channel now09:31
BillynkidThanks though09:31
DJonesThere should be a few of the core channel ops around in a bit that can give you some advice or suggestions as well09:32
BillynkidGreat09:32
BillynkidI think the #ubuntu-ug channel is now up09:40
persiaYour flags are set fairly agressively, since I can't even see the operators list.s  Not sure if you might like something a little less restrictive.09:48
rwwpersia: I can see the operator list just fine =\09:48
BillynkidTry again I had the channel locked for a sec09:49
persiaSorry.  Apparently that was a race condition.  Looks standard to me.  Nice job.09:50
Billynkidthx rww09:50
jussi01persia: DJones rww: this is a good page to give out for confguring channels: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/CreatingChannels10:16
persiaThat is a nice reference10:17
persiaalthough I'll admit I didn't use commands of that form when I created my last channel (although the result is similar)10:18
rwwspeaking of useful wiki pages, what ended up happening with that "new operator guide" thing?10:19
bazhangtechnical guidelines? or the the new applicants one10:21
rwwbazhang: technical10:21
persiatechnical guidelines is the one I'd like to see10:21
bazhangsame10:21
rwwah, it got discussed at the last IRCC meeting10:21
rww( http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/03/13/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:09 )10:22
persiaRight.10:22
rwwnhandler: Let me know when you get started on those technical guidelines for ops, I'd be happy to contribute in any way I can :)10:23
erUSULrww: 1) install irssi 2) install autobleh 3) profit10:23
erUSUL;P10:23
bazhang:/10:24
rwwerUSUL: I'm a firm believer in teaching the difficult manual way before the easy way ;P10:25
erUSULso be it10:25
erUSUL;)10:26
jussi01not everyone uses or wants to use irssi10:26
jussi01I certainly dont10:26
bazhangnor do I10:26
* erUSUL thought the ;P was enough ...10:27
erUSULrww: <sarcasm> 1) install irssi 2) install autobleh 3) profit </sarcasm>10:27
jussi01rww: Ill keep it in mind - you are more than welcome to create a wiki page with your thoughts/outline on it. I see no reason the ircc only has to do it. we can then merge that wiki page into where ever we like.10:28
rwwPersonally, I think we should write the guide for Empathy, to demonstrate how usable it is for IRC.10:28
m4vwhat about being client neutral?10:28
* jussi01 thinks it should be client neutral10:28
* rww agrees10:29
jussi01m4v: *g*10:29
m4v:P10:29
* jussi01 is very appreciative of any help that is given here, the ircc has a million things right now so extra hands are very welcome. 10:29
bazhangm4v, thanks for the ubottu feature!10:31
bazhangerr new10:31
m4vbazhang: :)10:35
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nhandlerrww: I've started working on the guide already. My plan was to get a very, very, rough draft prepared and then send an email to the list requesting people look it over and make changes to it.11:12
rwwnhandler: sounds good :)11:12
nhandlerI should have something to send out in the next few days11:12
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DJonesI'm beginning to wonder if there should be a factoid !ola is En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es-offtopic. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es-offtopic" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. (Assuming that there is an es-offtopi channel, rather than sending people to -es when it looks like a lot of them just want general chat in spanish15:02
erUSULjust propose it ;) not in my hands15:03
m4v"ola" is horrible Spanish, don't encourage it :(15:03
Piciolaaaa15:04
Picigoogle is translating it as 'wave'15:04
m4vyeah15:04
m4vola = wave, hola= hello15:04
erUSULm4v: so after testing it in #ubuntu-es the "comment on this ban" feature was ported to ubottu? congrats ;P15:08
m4vnope15:08
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m4verUSUL: that's niko's work.15:10
erUSULahh ok15:10
nikooh ? i'm not aware about that15:10
m4v'cause erUSUL mixed two plugins15:11
erUSUL:P15:11
m4vany in case.. I'm not terrible opposed to bankick anyone that says 'ola'. how to write 'hola' is learned in the first day of school :P15:15
erUSULm4v: mobile phone texting is doing a lot of damage in these kids15:16
DJonesm4v: I guess there'd be a precident anyway with !hi instead of !hello :)15:16
arandIs there any way to view the unimplemented proposed factoids for ubottu?15:17
erUSULarand: !?15:17
aranderUSUL: or are they not saved, just mentioned in #ubuntu-ops?15:18
Piciarand: No, theres no 'incoming' queue :/15:19
erUSULarand: the later15:19
erUSULarand: easy for edits to "fall through the cracks" ;)15:19
PiciIts on my 'todo' list.15:20
PiciRight below 'rewrite the factoid plugin'15:20
aranddang, and there's no easy way to search the archives I assume?15:22
arandWell, not as much, but it was kind of deferred until wikipage, and now I'd like to have a look at it and change the link (since i remember the wording as being quite ok)...15:22
arandyay!, but untill then *grumble :)15:23
m4vPici: did you started any work about it?15:28
m4vstart*15:28
Picim4v: I wrote a proof-of-concept with django a long while ago.15:28
PiciIts alot easier than the bantracker ;)15:29
m4vis code anywhere for take a look?15:29
m4verr, "is the code anywhere?"15:30
Picium..15:30
PiciIts probably on my laptop15:30
m4vI'm having lag, writing from a remote shell15:30
jussi01Pici: you really should commit that code...15:38
mihawe from #ubuntu-si wonder if we ever get offical ubuntu logging for channel, or should we stick to our own bots? we asked some 2 months ago15:38
mihawe got ubot right away15:39
jussi01miha: who did you ask?15:39
mihanapsy mailed supposedly right email address15:39
mihaso who should we mail?15:40
mihahey napsy15:42
napsy:)15:42
mihanapsy remember who you mailed about logging?15:42
napsythat was on #ubuntu-eu I think15:43
erUSULjussi01: they've asked here and where redirected to #ubuntu-eu iirc15:43
Picijussi01: Its not really production ready, its was just me playing around with django.15:44
mihapici: call it release candidate, then issue 3 service packs forit :D15:45
Pici:P15:45
erUSULjussi01: it was jpds15:45
napsyTo whom do I have to speak to get logging services to our ubuntu loco channel?15:45
Picinapsy: Send an email to rt@ubuntu.com with the request15:46
m4vPici: I did like to take a look, I started a factoid plugin from scratch for u-es, mostly cause I wanted a plugin that's localizable and with undo/redo features. Maybe I can help out15:46
Picino, wait.15:46
Picinapsy: don't do that, I'm confused.15:46
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mihaPici relax, take it easy15:47
jpdsHi.15:47
Picinapsy: I *think* that it needs to go to admin@ubuntu-eu.org, but let me check my records.15:47
napsyok, please15:48
jpdsWhat Pici says.15:48
Picijpds: That sounds correct?15:48
jpdsIt is correct.15:48
Picinapsy: okay, admin@ubuntu-eu.org it is then15:48
napsyok thanks I'll leave a message there15:49
mihanapsy you should CC it to Pici and jpds, perhaps that will scare them into being faster :D15:51
PiciNah, they probably don't even know who we are.15:51
mihaPici perhaps you have some official mail? :D15:52
miha@canonical.com ? :D15:52
PiciI'm not a canonical employee ;)15:52
mihaok, me neither15:52
miha:D15:52
PiciI have bnrubin [at] ubuntu.com though15:52
mihaPici sounds official enough! :D15:52
PiciIf you want to you can copy that address.15:52
jpdsHmm, blackmail isn't nice.15:57
mihajpds that's called lobbying and it's perfectly legal!15:58
miha:D15:58
mihawe dont blackmail anyone. we just talk to them about our views on the situation?! :D15:58
miha(if you dont pay $$$$ you will...)15:59
miha:D15:59
mihasorry, offtopic15:59
arandHmm, any opinions on pae is <reply> To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the packages « linux-image-generic-pae » and « linux-headers-generic-pae » (9.10 and later). See help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info.    ?? Especially if the wiki is okay for now?16:09
arand↑ Should have an https:// prepended16:10
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nhainesarand: pae should warn that this slows down performance?18:10
arandnhaines: does it?18:12
nhainesyes, quite severely.18:36
nhainesarand: I heard around 30% performance decrease, but I can't assert that.  I know it is a pretty big hit.18:37
arandnhaines: I was looking at http://people.redhat.com/nmurray/RHEL-2.1-VM-whitepaper.pdf which claims 1%18:38
nhainesarand: that would be a much more acceptable performance decrease, in general.  :)18:39
nhainesI should take a look too...18:39
arandnhaines: There seems to be be very little writing about it in general... I wonder if phoronix has something...18:40
arandnhaines: Ah there we go: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=118:41
arandSeems like the performance drop is completely negliable according to that...18:43
nhainesOkay, well, we can also always just update the wiki page later if we find otherwise.  :)18:44
arandI think I'm going to remove the performance bit completely for now..18:47
nhainesYes, may as well.18:52
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