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drcooperi have branched lp:ubuntu-manual, now after editing , i have to commit the changes and then push back to lp...is this right? Is the description of revision that is displayed on Launchpad the commit statement?13:00
nisshhdrcooper, are you using the command line to commit and push back to launchpad?13:01
drcoopernisshh: yes13:01
nisshhdrcooper, ok, easy as pie13:01
nisshhall you need to do is pull first: bzr pull13:02
nisshhonce you have done that, then do a: bzr commit -m "Description of my changes."13:02
nisshhthen do a: bzr push13:02
drcoopernisshh: actually i used the full url to branch as "branch lp:ubuntu-manual" was not working...so i can push back using "bzr push url" ?13:03
nisshhdrcooper, when doing the push and pulls though, you might want to add: lp:ubuntu-manual to the end13:03
nisshhdrcooper, yep13:03
drcoopernisshh: where should i add lp:ubuntu-manual13:04
drcooper?13:04
nisshhdrcooper, dont add it, i thought it was working13:04
nisshhbut since it isnt, do not worry13:04
drcoopernisshh: ok..13:05
nisshhdrcooper, what URL did you use to fetch the branch?13:05
drcoopernisshh: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/maverick13:06
nisshhdrcooper, ah ok, that's fine, just wanted to make sure you were using the right one :)13:07
drcoopernisshh: ok..13:07
drcooperWill ubuntu manual project cover the topice related to netbook edition?14:22
drcooper*topics14:22
nisshhdrcooper, you mean will we have a manual for the netbook edition?14:22
drcooperya14:23
drcooperor will current manual include topics related to unity14:23
nisshhdrcooper, possibly in the future, although the focus is on stock desktop Ubuntu for now14:23
drcooperok14:23
drcoopernisshh: i get error on pushing http://paste.ubuntu.com/511659/14:38
drcooperi get error on pushing http://paste.ubuntu.com/511659/ ... anyone pls help14:41
nisshhdrcooper, easy, you need to use bzr's protocol, replace https with bzr+ssh15:10
drcoopernisshh: how?15:10
nisshhdrcooper, see where you have the URL to push to?15:10
drcoopernisshh: ya15:11
drcoopernisshh: what should i change15:11
nisshhdrcooper, well, make https:// at the start of the URL, look like: bzr+ssh:// instead15:11
nisshhthat should fix your problem15:11
drcoopernisshh: ok..will try15:12
nisshhdrcooper, do you have an SSH key registered with launchpad?15:12
drcoopernisshh: ya15:12
nisshhok, good15:12
nisshhdrcooper, did it work?15:13
drcoopernisshh: im using a proxy server to get to the internet...will that affect ur suggestion?15:13
nisshhdrcooper, possibly15:13
drcoopernisshh: nope...i actually deleted the branch in attempts to fix it15:14
drcoopernisshh: now i have to branch15:14
drcoopernisshh: will update you if i have any trouble15:14
nisshhdrcooper, oh nice, you just deleted all your changes too :)15:14
drcoopernisshh: :(15:15
nisshhok, sure15:15
nisshhdrcooper, next time you run into trouble, just leave stuff as is when asking for help, that way you wont lose your changes next time :)15:15
drcoopernisshh: got it15:16
nisshhdrcooper, got the branch?15:16
nisshhlol15:16
* nisshh waves :)15:16
nisshhi think someone clicked the wrong close button :)15:17
bilalakhtarnisshh: drcooper looks like he just dived into development :)15:24
bilalakhtarnisshh: btw, you could join my session about Ubuntu development tomorrow in the UOW!15:24
nisshhbilalakhtar, yes drcooper has15:34
nisshhbilalakhtar, and yes, i will be at your session (didnt know you were running one!) :)15:34
* nisshh checks the schedule15:34
drcoopernisshh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/511698/15:42
drcoopernisshh: but nothing is seen in lp15:42
nisshhdrcooper, oh-oh, you created a NEW branch15:50
nisshhbad idea15:50
nisshhyou need to push your changes to the existing one15:50
drcooperbut where is the new branch even if i did create one15:51
drcoopernisshh: but where is the new branch even if i did create one15:51
nisshhdrcooper, at that link most likely, give me a moment to figure out what you did15:51
drcoopernisshh: without the  --create-prefix , i get error parent direcories missing...you may add ---create-prefix to create them15:53
nisshhdrcooper, also, you forgot the colon after bzr+ssh15:53
nisshhdrcooper, don't just do what bzr says, it is not always the best solution :)15:53
drcoopernisshh: hmm15:54
nisshhdrcooper, use this command to grab the right branch: bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual15:55
drcooperthat doesnt work for me15:55
nisshhdrcooper, and use this command when pushing: bzr push lp:ubuntu-manual15:55
nisshhdrcooper, what? does it come up with an error or something?15:55
nisshhdrcooper, works fine for me15:56
drcoopernisshh: bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.15:56
nisshhdrcooper, aha, i know that error15:57
drcoopernisshh: solution15:57
drcooper?15:57
nisshhdrcooper, can i have a link to your lp profile?15:57
nisshhdrcooper, one sec, just need to check something first15:57
drcoopernisshh: https://launchpad.net/~rohitr15:58
nisshhdrcooper, ok, one moment15:59
nisshhdrcooper, can you please run this command and pastebin the output: cat .bazaar/authentication.conf16:01
drcoopernisshh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/511710/16:02
nisshhdrcooper, ok, now run these two commands, this one first: bzr launchpad-login rohitr16:03
drcooperthe actual error i get is http://paste.ubuntu.com/511709/16:03
drcooperi have done that nisshh16:04
nisshhdrcooper, ah, that is a slightly different error16:04
drcooperwhat if i change method from ssh to http or https16:05
nisshhdrcooper, no, use ssh16:05
drcoopernisshh: what if i change method from ssh to http or https16:05
drcoopernisshh: ok16:05
nisshhdrcooper, can you go to the branch's directory and: cat .bzr/branch/branch.conf16:07
nisshhand pastebin the output please16:07
nisshhi think i know EXACTLY what is wrong now16:07
nisshhjust want to know for sure16:07
drcoopernisshh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/511720/16:08
nisshhdrcooper, ok, try this to pull: bzr pull bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/16:10
nisshhif that doesnt work, i have something else you can try16:11
drcoopererror : not a branch16:11
drcoopernisshh: i think thats not the link to the branch16:11
drcoopernisshh: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/maverick/16:12
drcooperis16:12
nisshhdrcooper, no it isnt16:12
nisshhdrcooper, that is the link that bzr keeps trying to use, but it isnt working16:13
drcooperi should us it to push right? nisshh16:13
nisshhwait a sec16:13
nisshhdrcooper, when you branch a fresh branch from launchpad, are you running the command from inside another branch? or just a normal directory?16:14
nisshhdrcooper, because it should not keep history when branching a new branch16:15
drcoopernormal dir nisshh16:15
nisshhhmmm16:15
nisshhdrcooper, ok, try this: bzr branch bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/maverick/16:16
nisshhif THAT doesnt work, then im going to facepalm16:16
drcoopernisshh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/511726/16:18
drcooper:(16:18
drcooperssh isnt picking up my proxy i guess16:18
nisshhdrcooper, yep, your proxy is the problem16:19
nisshhapparently to get bzr to work with it, you will need to fiddle with your .bashrc16:19
drcoopernisshh: so i cant contribute to any project ?16:19
nisshhdrcooper, yes you can16:19
nisshhdrcooper, any reason why you need the proxy?16:19
drcoopernisshh: im in an institute and we can get to internet only through the proxy16:20
nisshhdrcooper, ah bugger16:20
nisshhdrcooper, hang on a sec, ill consult one of my knowledgeable friends in another channel :)16:21
drcoopernisshh: ok16:21
nisshhdrcooper, he says it is possible, just annoyingly difficult16:21
popeyhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/50954316:22
manualbotLaunchpad bug 509543 in bzr "not able to branch from launchpad behind proxy (squid) (dup-of: 186920)" [Undecided,Fix released]16:22
manualbotLaunchpad bug 186920 in bzr "bzr xmlrpc client doesn't use http proxy, causing network errors trying to resolve lp: urls" [High,Fix released]16:22
nisshhpopey, ah, thanks16:23
drcoopernisshh, popey my bzr is version 2.2 , the fix mentioned is to upgrade to 2.116:27
nisshhdrcooper, there is an environment variable you should set16:27
drcooper nisshh: which one16:28
nisshhdrcooper, but first, do you know for sure if your proxy allows ssh connections?16:28
drcoopernisshh: i do not know16:28
drcoopernisshh: it doesnt let mail clients work16:28
nisshhdrcooper, if it doesnt, you have no hope unless you appeal to whoever manages the proxy server16:29
drcoopernisshh: :(16:29
popeydrcooper: do you have an ssh server outside the network?16:29
popeypreferably running on port 443?16:29
popeyhttp://popey.com/blog/2010/02/25/proxies-in-the-way-of-testing/16:29
nisshhpopey, drcooper is at an institute behind a proxy server, seems unlikely :|16:30
drcooperpopey: im not aware of one16:30
popeyno, you misunderstand16:30
popeyI'm asking if you have a VPS or other 'server' outside16:30
popeylike where you host your website16:30
nisshhi see16:30
nisshhpopey, to test the proxy? is that what your thinking?16:30
drcoopernisshh, popey im lost16:31
popeyok, simple question drcooper, do you have access to a server which has ssh server installed, which is on the internet somewhere, _outside_ your organisation?16:32
drcooperpopey i do not have...16:33
popeyok, forget that suggestion then :)16:33
drcooperpopey nisshh is ssh necessory to run bzr push?16:33
popeypass16:34
nisshhdrcooper, just finding out now, i certainly have never tried it16:35
nisshhdrcooper, just try: bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/maverick16:36
nisshhdrcooper, if that doesnt work, i give up sorry :(16:37
drcoopernisshh: that works16:37
drcoopernisshh: push does not16:37
nisshhdrcooper, ah ok16:37
nisshhdrcooper, what error does it come up with when you push?16:37
popeynot surprised push fails16:39
popeyno authentication16:39
drcoopernisshh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/511736/16:39
nisshhpopey, exactly16:39
nisshhdrcooper, yep, looks like ssh is required, because of launchpad authentication16:39
drcooperim so screwed16:40
nisshhdrcooper, sorry i am unable to help more, i suggest you get in touch with whoever administers your proxy server, and ask them to enable ssh over it16:40
nisshhdrcooper, also, see the last comment in that bug report that popey linked to :)16:41
drcoopernisshh: is ssh even trying to contact the proxy server?16:41
nisshhthat has an environment variable that you can set that may work16:41
nisshhdrcooper, no idea16:41
popeydrcooper: not if you dont tell it to16:49
popeyi use ssh through a proxy server here, but it requires some very specific configuration16:50
popeyif you haven't done that configuration, it flat out wont work16:50
nisshhi see16:50
drcooperpopey : how to do that16:50
nisshhproxy servers are annoying :|16:50
popeydrcooper: as I said, you need a server outside your network16:50
drcooperohh16:51
drcooper:(16:51
nisshhdrcooper, do you live at this institute? or do you have access to computers outside of it?16:51
drcoopernisshh: i live in the campus16:52
nisshhdrcooper, ah ok16:52
popeyI'm afriad I can't help without a box outside your network16:52
nisshhsame16:53
nisshhmakes it very difficult16:53
* nisshh goes and watches a movie16:54
* drcooper will have to do that for the rest of his time in the damned institute16:54
drcooperthants 2.5 years :(16:55
drcooperis there any alternate way other than bzr...popey...to contribute?17:00
drcoopercontribute code17:00
nisshhdrcooper, not really :(17:01
nisshhdrcooper, you could always just hunt for bugs or something17:01
nisshhdrcooper, which won't require bzr17:01
drcoopernisshh: i was really pumped up to start contributing code and now this :(17:02
nisshhdrcooper, it happens, i know :|17:05
drcoopernisshh, popey how come my bzr launchpad-login works? it uses https?17:08
* dutchie is now a proud thinkpad owner17:11
popey Success!  Wrote 166 pages17:19
popeydrcooper: its still possible to contribute from behind a proxy17:24
drcooperpopey how17:24
popeywell, you can find bugs, check the source code out and build the packages locally to test them, then create patches and attach those to the bug report17:27
popeywhich is exactly what we ask people to do when they're patching code17:27
drcooperpopey will this ( http://shells.red-pill.eu/ ) help to fix my problem as u mentioned?17:48
drcooperpopey can i use myfreedom to tunnel th proxy?17:53
drcooperpopey i meant "yourfreedom"17:54
popeyi have never used that shell account provider17:58
popeyi personally have a VPS I use17:58
popeywhich I have an SSH server running on port 44317:59
drcooperpopey:  i got it working20:28
drcooper:)20:28
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