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Dr_Willisif you just want to give up.. have fun..00:00
Dr_WillisTheres dozens of people that  use Optimus/Bumblebee these days.. now a year+ ago... well.. it was a huge problem00:00
Dr_Willishttps://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Troubleshooting00:01
hectorDr_Willis, i`m a bit confused not sure if you can answer to this but.. i have a fresh ubuntu install, havent installed anything from nvidia. the only thing i need to install now is bumblebee then?00:01
Dr_WillisAre you really using an nVidia Optimus card?    and they give a command,,,00:01
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Dr_Willishector:  the install guides give like 4 commands to run to install the needed stuff.00:01
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hectormorely like 2, other 2 are for old ubuntu versions00:02
hectorunless im mistaken00:02
hectoryo Dr_Willis it`s a optimus card00:03
hectorthanks for the site, now at least we are 100% sure it uses optimus00:03
hectorlol00:03
hectoric a lil progress00:03
abimaelPLEASE forgive me if this is the wrong place and forum to ask, but I recently started learning how to use ubuntu and metasploit, Do i have to be certified to be a penetration tester?00:04
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infinituxcan anybody help me?00:07
LiDaRabimael, you should learn how to use a computer as first step00:07
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LiDaR!ask > infinitux00:09
ubottuinfinitux, please see my private message00:09
infinituxuh yeah, I posted my question already00:09
abimaelLiDaR: well I believe I Do know how, but for the sake of understanding, what do you specifically mean?00:10
infinituxshould I post it again?00:10
meganerdinfinitux: I just switched back to this chan, so I did not see it, it helps to repost the question00:10
py_canabimael: =D00:10
infinituxhere's my output from k3b - http://www.pasteall.org/3472800:11
mindcathelp, Xubuntu 10.04.2 LiveCD can't detect my sata hard disk!00:11
abimaelpy_can: ??00:11
LiDaR!k3b00:11
ubottuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto00:11
infinituxOkay, so I go to create an audio cd in k3b and it says I don't have permission, so I run k3bsetup and set the permissions, and now I get a message about how it's unable to create cue sheet or something like that. why isn't k3b working?00:11
py_canabimael, no you do not need to be certified, just know what you're doing00:11
abimaelpy_can: oh ok, thanks00:11
py_cano_000:11
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infinituxany ideas?00:13
Dr_Willisinfinitux:  make a new user and see... could be you ran somthing as root.. and now the user has no permissions to some dirs.. so id check all the users dirs in theior home also00:14
Dr_Willisinfinitux:  how did you run k3bsetup?00:14
infinituxas my current user00:14
infinituxthen when that didn't work, as root00:14
Dr_Willisand HOW exactly did you run it as root?00:15
infinituxsudo k3bsetup00:15
Dr_Willisthat may be the whole issue then..00:15
Dr_Willisgksudo or the kde equilient for GUI apps00:15
infinituxokay. so how do I fix it?00:15
Dr_WillisId bet theres some dirs/files owned by root in your home.. find them  fix them00:16
spagewmfUbuntu 12.04 on a MacBook Air. The touchpad is absurdly sensitive. I want to disable three-finger window moves. I disabled "Unity MT Grab Handles" in CompizConfig Settings Manager (those red circles) but windows still leap around if the touchpad thinks I have three fingers down.00:16
infinituxalright. i'll check the tree00:16
LiDaRchown !!! ftw00:16
LiDaR!chown00:17
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions00:17
Dr_Willisuseing gksudo instead of sudo.. :) for the win.00:17
SuperMiguelhow do i apply a patch to my kernel???00:17
natsirtDr Willis: I do not like you00:17
* infinitux is doing find . -name '*' -exec ls -lSr {} \; | grep "root root"00:17
Dr_Willisnatsirt:  complain to my supervisor i guess...00:17
luftikussSuperMiguel: You better ask in #ubuntu-kernel.00:17
natsirtDr Willis: is your 1st name Bruce?00:18
LiDaRnatsirt, i think he should be fired too!00:18
natsirtLet's take a vore?00:18
Dr_Willis'ubuntu is not a democracy'00:18
natsirtShould we ban Dr willis?00:18
AndAyat least reduce his pay00:18
AndAygosh00:18
AndAy;)00:18
natsirtI don't like how you call yourself Doctor00:19
Dr_Willis1/2 of zero is... err...00:19
AndAylol00:19
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luftikussnatsirt: Please use a kind language in this channel.00:19
natsirtYou think we should have to call you dr.00:19
natsirtcall me master00:19
Dr_Willisnatsirt:  or my Initials are DR00:19
* AndAy slaps natsirt around a bit with a large trout00:19
* Dr_Willis waits for an actual support question.00:19
Dr_LiDaRnatsirt, masterbate you are!!00:19
el_seanothe troll.  you're feeding it.00:20
W4spAndAy: :-)  mirc still around...?00:20
AndAylol, indeed00:20
natsirtDr's, go sleep with a bunle of sticks00:20
Dr_LiDaRi think Dr_LiDaR is a good name00:20
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W4spAndAy: I haven't seen that comment in a while. It's really the #1 for the platform you're on. Great.00:21
natsirtW4sp: Go kill yourself00:21
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W4spAndAy: ... and it's still maintained. :-)00:23
LiDaRtoo bad my aircard doesnt work with linux i sure miss using it00:23
natsirtArp spoffong at the coffee shop?00:23
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Dr_Willisnatsirt:  do you have an actual support question?00:24
spagewmfI see other people asking for 'A way to disable the three-finger "move window"'00:24
hectorDr_Willis, ok, i`m getting started right now. added the x-swat ppa and the bumblebee one, but there`s nothing on the steps about installing the nvidia drivers before bumblebee, it just tells me to add the ppa.. should i install it or not?00:24
hectorhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee00:24
spagewmfIs there a channel for the Unity UI ?00:25
Dr_Willishector:  I tInstall Bumblebee using the proprietary nvidia driver:00:25
Dr_Willissudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia00:25
Dr_Willislooks like the bumblebee-nvidia package is the driver00:25
hectorhm00:25
hectorweird, but let`s see00:25
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Dr_Willismakes sence to me00:27
gseulorkucyffohi there. I'm trying to get unlimited bash history. I tried setting HISTFILESIZE and HISTSIZE to very high values, I tried unsetting them. both doesn't work, after each reboot history gets truncated to 500 lines.00:27
hectorDr_Willis, i think you`re right according to arch wiki.00:27
meganerdgseulorkucyffo: check your .bashrc file00:28
LiDaRgreatest part about linux is the feeling of accomplishment after spending 4 days to figure out how to make something work!00:28
hectorDr_Willis, In order to avoid installing nvidia-utils as a dependency when installing the nvidia driver, you have to install the nvidia-bumblebee package from the AUR instead (which is the same driver packaged for bumblebee usage).00:28
gseulorkucyffomeganerd: check it for what?00:28
meganerdHISTSIZE00:28
gseulorkucyffowell, I set that there00:29
jribgseulorkucyffo: how did you set those values exactly?00:29
easykillhello. I reinstalled ubuntu on my computer to fix a problem with crashes coming out of standby, which i think was due to something i did. it seems to have worked, but my computer is crashing seemingly randomly now frequently and most bizzarely, refuses t boot from disk. i need to select my ubuntu flashdrive i installed from. it stores stuff on the main computer though, i restored a backup...00:30
easykill...with my files and it takes a hell of a lot more than one gig. Any idea what is up?00:30
lacrymologyhello, I write english, spanish and japanese, I was using just enlgish and spanish until this week I followed some guide and installed anty-IBus. Now spanish broke. Ctr+space switches anthy to japanese, Shft+Tab changes the keyboard layout to spanish, but the spanish "behavior" doesn't work (e.g.: ´a writes.. well, ´a instead of a an a with a ´ on top). Can someone give me a hand with this?00:30
gseulorkucyffojrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169021/00:30
hectorLiDaR, the greatest part is when you spend a weekend and still don`t get it to work haha00:31
hectorxD00:31
jribgseulorkucyffo: where is that from?  Your console?  Some file?00:31
gseulorkucyffojrib: .bashrc00:31
LiDaRtime for food bbl00:31
jribgseulorkucyffo: and if you kill your terminal and do "echo $HISTSIZE", what happens?00:32
jribgseulorkucyffo: erm, start a new terminal after killing your current one00:32
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gseulorkucyffojrib: 3000000000:33
mindcathelp, Xubuntu 12.04 LiveCD can't detect my SATA hard drive!(that mean i can't install the xubuntu 12.04 to sata hard drive)00:34
jribgseulorkucyffo: and you say after a reboot, that value does not persist?00:34
meganerdgseulorkucyffo: is this a live environment (like a bootable USB or CD)?00:35
spagewmfhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/TouchpadSupport is out-of-date, it mentions Synaptic settings that don't exist in 12.0400:35
gseulorkucyffojrib: persist? it is set correctly after boot. but the history is truncated to 500 lines.00:35
gseulorkucyffomeganerd: no00:35
jribgseulorkucyffo: is HISTFILESIZE correct?00:36
gseulorkucyffojrib: yes00:36
W4spgseulorkucyffo: did you try 501 or iterate the value to see when it breaks?00:36
jribgseulorkucyffo: can you generate a history now that is greater than 500 lines and verify it's saved correctly when you exit bash?00:37
ji--http://pastebin.com/J2SJRXtt Any idea where to remove wifi drivers from my blacklist? When I click activate it dumps this to jockey.log00:37
ji--2012-08-26 20:30:08,382 WARNING: /sys/module/wl/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind wl driver00:37
ji--oops00:37
ji--2012-08-26 20:30:54,750 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted00:38
ji--yeah that's what I get00:38
W4spgseulorkucyffo: I would also unset HISTFILESIZE and only have HISTSIZE set.00:39
RyuGunsHello, I just xkill'd gedit, later trying to start it up, it says "** (gedit:3956): WARNING **: Failed to call gedit service: Timeout was reached"00:39
gseulorkucyffoW4sp: no I didn't, but I will try. jrib: the file is currently 832 lines long, no bash instance is running00:39
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gseulorkucyffoW4sp: tried that, also tried it the other way around. same result.00:39
jribgseulorkucyffo: so now the file will be truncated when you reboot?00:40
hectorDr_Willis, just an info.. nvidia-current is a dependency as it is downloading it now hehe00:40
gseulorkucyffojrib: I guess so, I did not check the file after boot, only the history command in bash. I'll check.00:41
W4spgseulorkucyffo: I would only have either HISTSIZE or HISTFILESIZE. Try four digits? Maybe bash goofs up at 1023? Don't know really.00:43
craigbass1976I've got a ppc version of ubuntu on an iBook g4.  The broadcom 4318 isn't working yet.  I get a message during boot about it with some instructions, but they go by too fast.  Where can I see the message now?00:44
earthsmurfhello?00:45
earthsmurfcan anyone read me?00:45
W4spearthsmurf: Hi, I can read you.00:46
earthsmurfok cool first time using irq chat00:46
earthsmurfthere is a bug with ubuntu that i'm trying to find a workaround for00:47
Troy^when i run a .run installer and there is a liscense agreement and it comes to the (END) how do i accept it?00:48
Dr_WillisTroy^:  tab and enter key.00:48
Dr_Willisand the q key to quit any text it may be showing.,00:48
Troy^hmm tab and enter didnt do anything00:48
Dr_Willisits useing 'more' or 'less' to show a large text file...00:48
Troy^ahh there we go00:49
Troy^thanks00:49
earthsmurfis there a way to hide disconnected messages in IRQ00:49
Dr_Willisearthsmurf:  its 'IRC'00:49
craigbass1976Dr_Willis, Oh, cool.  You're here.  Where are messages that go flying by at boot?  There are a few less things in /var/log/ than I'm used to seeing in 10.04 and earlier.00:49
Dr_Willisearthsmurf:  and it depends on your IRC client.00:49
wjtaylorAnyone successfully hook up an easycap to your ubuntu?00:49
earthsmurfusing empathy00:49
Dr_Williscraigbass1976:   cant say ive really looked.. dmesg Might hold them. but i DO belive you can hit ctrl-s and ctrl-q to stop/restart messages as they scroll buy during boot.00:50
samthewildoneHow do I disable sleep mode in ubuntu ?00:50
samthewildoneI need to turn it off00:50
Dr_Willissystem settings -> brightness and lock perhaps samthewildone00:50
samthewildonewonderful Dr00:50
Dr_WillisNot sure what you mean by sleep mode.00:50
earthsmurfcraigbass1976:  You need to enable boot logging, run sudo gedit /etc/default/bootlogd00:52
earthsmurfcraigbass1976: Change BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes00:53
Dr_Willisnight all.00:53
earthsmurfcraigbass1976: then you can go to /var/log/boot.log00:53
daninozis anyone here who use deadbeef ?00:54
spagewmfthere's a #ubuntu-touch channel! Goodbye, thanks for the help :-/00:54
W4spw00:55
hermanlfAnyone know why extras.ubuntu.com is down?00:56
Troy^what is extras.ubuntu.com have?00:57
somsipdaninoz: yes00:58
hermanlfrestricted stuff I do believe00:58
redactdit seems like the whole *.ubuntu.com domain is down00:58
daninozsomsip, do you know where can i get the mpris plugin? So i can integrate it with the sound indicator menu ?00:59
somsipdaninoz: no idea00:59
dweesI have an Airlink 101 wifi card, which worked fine before I upgraded to 12.0401:00
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ilovenettehow do i share wlan0 internet to other pc over eth001:00
dweesnow it is claiming I am connected, but does not resolve DNS for anything, ping fails as well01:01
dweessuggestions?01:01
daninozsomsip, thx anyway01:02
RyuGunsHello, I just xkill'd gedit, later trying to start it up, it says "** (gedit:3956): WARNING **: Failed to call gedit service: Timeout was reached"01:04
IgorFreireanyone here from Brazil?01:06
W4spRyuGuns: That's probably due to your X server. If you logout and login it should work again. Next time use 'kill PID'.01:07
imnicholAnyone else having issues accessing ubuntu.com or canonical.com?01:12
vamp774@iminchol: nope01:13
vamp774on it right now in 12.0401:13
somsipimnichol: ubuntu.com okay here, canonical.com ok on 2nd attempt01:14
imnicholsomsip, where are you located?01:14
imnicholI'm in Minnesota, USA01:14
somsipimnichol: Thailand01:14
imnicholYeah downforeveryone.com says that the sites are both up, but I can't access them01:14
gerrygprsdoes enyone use cinnamon instead of unity?01:16
vamp774still usin gnome :D01:16
hermanlfimnichol, I am experiencing problems with them as well?01:19
imnicholhermanlf, what's your location?01:19
hermanlfCali, US01:20
imnicholhermanlf, what's your ISP?01:20
hermanlfI ran a traceroute and the packets are dropping off in the UK, very weird.01:20
hermanlfCharter01:20
imnicholhermanlf, mine too01:21
hermanlfhmm01:21
hermanlfWhen did you notice the issue?01:21
imnicholEarlier today01:21
hermanlfoh ok, hopefully they'll get it sorted soon.  It's driving me insane.01:21
imnicholYou're right, I see the traffic hitting ae-2-52.edge4.London1.Level3.net and then nothing else01:21
hermanlfyup01:22
imnicholThat's obnoxious01:22
hermanlfvery01:22
imnicholI'd call them and complain but I have no faith in their tech support01:22
hermanlfhaha exactly, don't waste your breath01:22
imnicholhahah yep01:22
Joe1yo01:23
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Guest52284hi01:33
Guest52284any girl here01:33
fep.01:33
sin_taxIs it possible to create a windows VM on a headless Ubuntu server that I can just RDP into?01:35
SIFTUsin_tax: yes01:39
sin_taxThanks SIFTU01:40
malcolm91Hello. I am trying to figure out how to right click on my laptop.01:40
SIFTUsin_tax: KVM uses VNC to get console by default01:41
WeThePeoplemalcolm91, whats the prob01:47
WeThePeoplewatever01:47
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SH3WY:)01:51
SH3WYJe tu někdo z CZ ?01:51
trevorjayHello all01:52
trololhello01:52
AdieGUYS, I NEED HELP D:01:52
trevorjayCan someone please tell me how to make dm-multipath stop marking the whole devices (of partitioned devices) as blocked for IO?01:52
trololwhat you need help with?01:53
trevorjayI'm about to just rip the code out that does so, but I'd rather do this the right way01:53
Adiemulti screen is not doing it right.01:53
trevorjayAdie: what exactly does that mean?01:53
AdieI am trying to get three displays to work, but they either overlay, or one gets disabled for some reason01:54
Adieit's weird01:54
AdieANVE YOU EVER SEEN SCREENS INTERSECTING? D:01:54
trevorjayAdie: what gfx card, driver?01:54
AdieIt's a 697001:55
AdieI enabled all three displays via CCC01:55
Adiehttp://i.imgur.com/y2jrV.png01:55
Adiethat's what I end up with01:55
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Adieit's *funny*, but not what I want01:55
Adielol01:55
trevorjAdie: sae card as me, nie01:55
trevorjAdie: whats this picture of01:56
trevorjAdie: two monitors?01:56
Adie301:56
trevorjAdie: wheres the third?01:56
Adie:|01:56
Adieit's there.01:56
trevorjAdie: how did you connect the three screens? Does X see all three screens? (ie run 'xrandr' and see what outputs it sees)01:56
Adieit sees all three screens.01:57
trevorjAdie: oh shit01:57
trevorjAdie: they do intersect don't they01:57
trevorjAdie: that's a fun one ;)01:57
AdieIt's display port native + DVI + VGA01:57
Adiehttp://i.imgur.com/L6qvn.png01:57
trevorjAdie: which one is on the right01:57
AdieI try to correct it, and it errors01:58
Adiethe one on the right is my VGA01:58
trevorjAdie: I figured so much!01:58
trevorjAdie: can you pastebin the output of xrandr01:58
Adieyes01:59
Adiehttp://pastebin.com/zUHaCvQQ02:00
Adieif my understanding of the error is correct, there is a set maximum X02:00
trevorjAdie: what error?02:00
trevorjAdie: and from what?02:00
Adieand I might be trying to go beyond that, so it ends up squishing em together02:00
Adiethe error from the displays settings panel02:01
trevorjAdie: ah, from gnome-control-center's display applet?02:02
trevorjAdie: what error?02:02
Adietrevorj, http://i.imgur.com/GOplS.png02:03
trevorjAdie: ah02:05
trevorjAdie: do you have an xorg.conf02:05
Adieyes02:06
rodanhi rodan02:06
trevorjAdie: have you tried removing it?02:06
trevorjAdie: by removing I mean renaming it of course02:06
Adie>:U02:07
trevorjAdie: by removing I mean renaming it of course02:07
Adieokay02:07
trevorjAdie: have you tried removing it? ** is what I said before you quit02:07
AdieI will02:07
trevorjAdie: also are you using fglrx or radeon02:07
trevorjAdie: I've been loving the open source radeon drivers as of late with KMS and such02:08
AdieFGLRX02:08
Adiethat's what ubuntu listed for me to install.02:08
trevorjAdie: fglrx is proprietary crap02:08
zykotick9trevorj: fyi "open source" ATI is still non-free, it relies on "propritary crap" firmware...02:09
Adiethere are official drivers I should be looking for?02:09
trevorjzykotick9: I completely agree02:09
trevorjAdie: try using the radeon driver, it's free and already installed02:09
Adiehow02:09
trevorjAdie: if you deactivate fglrx it will automatically be used02:09
trevorjAdie: also, rename xorg.conf02:09
trevorjzykotick9: does intel also rely on proprietary firmware blobs?02:10
rodanhi rodan02:10
Adieso you mean to say ubuntu will use proper drivers by default, and I should ignore the restricted/additional drivers listed?02:10
zykotick9trevorj: nope, intel is "free"02:11
trevorjzykotick9: good =D02:11
trevorjAdie: yes, 9/1002:11
trevorjAdie: and people say Linux requires so much configuring )02:11
trevorjAdie: ;)*02:11
Adiea sidetrack question: Can I both automatically mount my harddrives, and hide them from the unity launcher?02:12
Adiemanual mounting is a pain for my music and torrent programs :|02:13
trevorjAdie: just add them to fstab02:13
trevorjAdie: that will do both02:13
trevorjAdie: the reason I said to rename xorg.conf just so you're aware is because X usually chooses some damn good defaults02:13
AdieI don't know what fstab is02:13
Adie:|02:13
trevorjAdie: /etc/fstab02:13
trevorjAdie: And many times people put a "Virtual $x $y" entry in there02:14
Adiealso: this is kinda a jabby pokey mean question!02:14
AdieIs unity going to get better any time soon?02:14
Adie>_<02:14
trevorjAdie: it's already getting better02:15
trevorjAdie: did you see it in 10.04?02:15
Adie:/02:15
AdieIt's like....02:15
trevorjAdie: it's new, give it some time to mature02:15
Adieapple-fied02:15
Adieexcept...02:15
Adieapple gives you more options02:15
trevorjAdie: plus there's a zillion other wms out there02:15
trevorjAdie: you are free to use any of them02:15
Adieon my mac I can actually drig my dock to another side02:15
Adielol02:15
Adie*drag02:16
trevorjAdie: I'm sure unity will get dragging of it's dock02:16
trevorjAdie: just give it time to mature02:16
Adietell me about WMS02:16
trevorjAdie: window managers02:16
trevorjAdie: I personally use xmonad02:16
AdieI am going to be stuck with ubuntu for a while, but I am really really new here kinda02:16
trevorjAdie: stuck? lol02:17
Adiefor years I have tried ubuntu and always was reminded of the things I don't like02:17
Adiewell, now I am learning to program, so we gotta make up and <302:17
trevorjAdie: ah, good02:17
trevorjAdie: the annoyances I had when I first started using it02:17
trevorjAdie: eventually all left02:17
trevorjAdie: but they were really just differences I found02:17
trevorjAdie: not necessarily flaws (usually)02:18
Adieare there tricks to getting programs to work in WINE?02:18
roobarb1hello. I have two emacs frames open and alt-tab does not switch between them. I have to press Alt-tab, move to the emacs icon and wait for a while. (quite annoying!) Using "Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS". Can this be configured?02:18
AdieI can't seem to get trillian to work02:18
trevorjAdie: apt-get install winetricks02:18
Adie><02:18
trevorjAdie: tbh, you're better off using a native client02:19
trevorjAdie: there are tons of them02:19
trevorjAdie: have you tried pidgin?02:19
Adienot gunna happen02:19
Adieit's not just about me liking trillian02:19
Adieit has a protocol called "astrA"02:19
Adieit gives you cross protocol syncing between all connected clients02:19
Gaming4JChey all, just did a system upgrade and I'm getting a toaster popup about /root disk space is full02:19
AdieI use trillian on a lot of devices, and anything else will break the syncing :<02:20
Gaming4JCany ideas what could be causing that? :)02:20
trevorjGaming4JC: clean up disk space ;)02:20
Gaming4JCI got 1TB HDD, so I doubt that.02:20
trevorjGaming4JC: df -h02:20
trevorjGaming4JC: sounds like your hd is partitioned02:20
Gaming4JCit says... /dev/sda1             9.2G  8.3G  412M  96% /02:20
Gaming4JC:O02:20
trevorjGaming4JC: yeah, you're almost full cause you only gave 9.2G to your root partition02:21
trevorjGaming4JC: why did you only give it under 10g?02:21
Gaming4JCI used default ubuntu install02:21
Gaming4JCdunno :P02:21
trevorjGaming4JC: did you not overwrite or resize any existing partitions?02:21
Gaming4JCnot afaik.02:21
NogalHey, how do I add a line to the login script to load thunar --daemon?02:21
trevorjGaming4JC: default is to use any free non-partitioned space02:21
trevorjGaming4JC: you can resize it02:21
Gaming4JCok.02:21
Gaming4JCwell my main drive02:21
Gaming4JCxfs02:22
Gaming4JCis...02:22
d34d1ys1nzI can't uninstall a program on wine - even tried uninstalling wine itself, it was still there - any suggestions?02:22
Gaming4JC903.8 MB :)02:22
Gaming4JCGB*02:22
Gaming4JCheh/02:22
Gaming4JCtrevorj: also can I view what's in my root directory that's taking up all that space (kinda like windir stat)?02:22
trevorjGaming4JC: use that app, crap what's it called.. one sec02:23
trevorjGaming4JC: baobab02:23
trevorjGaming4JC: but straight up, you need to give more space to /02:23
trevorjGaming4JC: and you didn't use default ubuntu install02:23
trevorjGaming4JC: otherwise you'd be using LVM02:23
LiDaRd34d1ys1nz, rm -rf ~/.wine02:24
Resinatorhey does anyone know anything about zorinos 6?02:24
Gaming4JCtrevorj: boabab works great thanks!02:24
trevorjGaming4JC: np, make sure you give more space to it02:24
Nogaltesting something on my own..02:24
Gaming4JCok, will look into it. Might upgrade soon anyways02:24
trevorjAdie: for wine, to get more apps to run create wine32 setup02:25
Gaming4JCstill on oneiric.02:25
Gaming4JC:P02:25
trevorjAdie: I've even got ie9 running02:25
Adiehmm?02:25
AdieI dunno what you mean :I02:25
trevorjAdie: wine defaults to 64 bit mode02:25
trevorjAdie: nowadays02:25
d34d1ys1nzLiDaR: Didn't work02:25
trevorjAdie: problem is winetricks for instance only has URLs in it for numerous packages for 32 bit02:26
Nogalis there an equivilant of .xinitrc to use in xubuntu?02:26
trevorjAdie: make a script, throw it in /usr/local/bin/wine3202:26
trevorjNogal: it's just that02:26
trevorjAdie: put this in it02:26
LiDaRd34d1ys1nz, the program is still listed in some menu ?02:26
Nogaltrevorj: what do you mean? I had to copy a version from my arch box's /etc/skel to get it on here initially?02:27
d34d1ys1nzYes, I've uninstalled wine via the software center, then ran the rm command, and the program is still in the menu02:27
d34d1ys1nzbut only the program that is messing up is in the wine folder, nothing else.02:27
LiDaRd34d1ys1nz, might just be a dead link does it open wine when you click it ?02:27
NogalThe scripts included do not seem to run.02:27
d34d1ys1nzIt says no such file/directory02:28
d34d1ys1nzBut I needed to uninstall it so i can reinstall in hopes of getting it to work02:28
LiDaRd34d1ys1nz, its deleted you just need to delete the link to it02:28
Adiethis is a lot of information02:28
cfhowlettd34d1ys1nz: you gotta go into the wine configurations to remove the entry02:28
LiDaRd34d1ys1nz, just reinstall02:28
natsirtsfw http://imgur.com/5NZv902:28
d34d1ys1nzOkay I'll give it a try, thanks for the help02:28
dannyany way to get better battery life with ubuntu on my old os same computer i got 3-4 hours battery now i barely make 2-302:29
LiDaRdanny, try powertop see whats using the power02:30
dannyLiDaR: i have it installed how i do i use it ?02:30
kkmhi02:31
kkmhello02:31
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kkmwho all are there02:31
Nogaltesting another idea...02:31
LiDaRdanny, open a xterm .. type powertop02:31
Gaming4JCd34d1ys1nz: Might help ya out, back in the day when I was wine'ing a lot. ;) http://g4jc.christiangamemaker.com/wordpress/2010/09/how-to-completely-remove-wine-and-reinstall-it-with-working-menu-in-ubuntu-9-10/02:31
Gaming4JCkkm: hey there :D02:31
yoofhello02:32
Gaming4JChi02:32
kkmcan anyone help me in connecting to internet in ubuntu 1202:32
yoofi just installed ubuntu02:32
* Gaming4JC installs evil adobe flash in a virtualbox...02:32
cfhowlettkkm: greetings02:32
yoofboy you guys have come a long way since the first time i used the OS in 200402:32
cfhowlettkkm: you mean wireless connection02:32
kkmno , its wired02:32
cfhowlettkkm: but won't connect?02:33
kkmdynammic ip02:33
dannyLiDaR: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169158/02:33
trevorjAdie: http://pastebin.com/ZqVDY6mU02:33
kkmhey cfhowlett02:33
cfhowlettkkm: sorry, can't help with that one...02:33
trevorjAdie: there's instructions fo r 32 bit wine setup02:33
kkmwhat happend02:33
LiDaRdanny, your usb ports are using all the power02:33
kkmcfhowlett02:33
trevorjyoof: yeah, it's become really, really nice over the last 15 years02:34
Adie:O02:34
d34d1ys1nzLiDaR,cfhowlett,Gaming4JC - it worked, thank you.02:34
cfhowlettkkm: yeah, I see you but know nothing of dynamic IP connections02:34
cfhowlettd34d1ys1nz: great!  have fun, be safe02:34
kkmits a dial up02:34
NogalAlright, I've tried loading/editing a .xinitrc and a .bash_profile (each located at ~/) as well as creating a custom .sh, chmod + x'ing it, and adding it to my sessions/startup... anyone got another idea?02:34
Adiedo I put that in terminal, or save somewhere, or open as a file? :x02:34
dannyLiDaR: how do i not use the usbs02:34
FloodBot1!netsplit02:34
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit02:34
kkmcfhowlett : u know anything abt PPPoe connections02:35
yoofi remember the first time i installed ubuntu, i was bitching so much in the forums about how inferior ubuntu is compared to windows and how nothing worked properly. now the UI seems much better02:35
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Gaming4JCnetsplitted o.o02:35
trevorjyoof: inferiority is a relative concept02:35
trevorjyoof: but I get what you're saying ;)02:35
cfhowlettkkm: sorry, man.  getting the broadcom chipset on wifi is the limit of my experience.02:35
ciscbroHello folks02:35
kkmok cfhowlett02:36
cfhowlettyoof: have you a support request?  If not, this convo is best continued in ubuntu-offtopic please.02:36
kkmthakns anyways02:36
Gaming4JCyoof: you can always go back to 10.04LTS and install XP Gnome, even your friends will think your running a rock-solid non-bluescreen of death version of Windows XP :D02:36
cfhowlettciscbro: greetings02:36
homecableany one have a asus 1025c02:36
Adiebrb02:36
yoofno need for windows xp, windows 7 has been rock solid for me02:36
Nogalanyone got a minute to help figure out how to run a bash script at login on xubuntu?02:37
Gaming4JCyoof: I think there was a Windows7 theme for ubuntu too, lol.02:37
trevorjyoof: windows period tends to make me feel like I'm lacking something02:37
kkmis there anyone who can guide me connecting to my broadband connection02:38
trevorjyoof: I'm so sick of analyzing bsod crashdumps02:38
ciscbroHello, I am in the /dev folder trying to figure out how ubuntu sees the 4 usb ports on my dell laptop. I am trying to mount a usb to serial cable to a usb port so I can connect the console port of a cisco router - any guidance?02:38
yoofwhich version of windows are you using?02:38
trevorjyoof: name any, I manage it02:38
yoofi hvent got a bsod in years02:38
trevorjyoof: I haven't used it myself in years02:39
Gaming4JCtrevorj: I usually end up installing bash on Windows to survive.02:39
kkmis there anyone who can guide me connecting to my broadband connection on ubuntu 12.0402:39
kkmis there anyone who can guide me connecting to my broadband connection 12.0402:40
whereamiI just did a dist-upgrade from oneiric to precise. While it was installing, gnome-shell quit working. After it rebooted, lightdm starts in a bad mode, and keyboard and mouse don't work. What should I do?02:40
LiDaRkkm, is it pppoe ?02:40
whereamiby "gnome-shell quit working" i mean it exited, but the upgrade continued without a WM.02:40
cfhowlettwhereami: clean install precise02:40
yoofhave you tried buying a wireless card that works with ubuntu and then it works and be done with it?02:40
kkmyes02:40
kkmLidar02:40
cfhowlett!who02:40
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)02:40
kkmit is02:40
kkmLidar : it is a pppoe and dynamic ip02:41
Gaming4JCwhereami: I think I had a similar problem, ended up apt-get installing lxde until I could reconfigure gnome-shell02:41
trevorjGaming4JC: lol, me too, cygwin is the shit02:41
trevorjkkm: network manager supports those02:41
LiDaRkkm, click the connection icon top right then down at bottom click edit connections02:41
cfhowlett!language|revorj02:41
ubotturevorj: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.02:41
Nogaltesting another idea...02:41
ciscbromy last message was to anyone with the patience to help me out.02:41
kkmLidar : ya , done that02:42
AdieI broke it.02:42
whereamiGaming4JC, well, I can't even get to console, since the keyboard isn't working.02:42
trevorjAdie: ?02:42
yoofi recall back in the day it was so troublesome getting my laptop wireless card to work with ubuntu it would have been cheaper for me to just buy a copy of windows, now i see hardware support has improved vastly02:42
whereamicfhowlett, will the livecd preserve /home? I don't think I made it a separate partition.02:43
Adieidk02:43
kkmLidar tell me what to do next02:43
trevorjAdie: like, what is broken, lol02:43
Adieit wouldn't boot02:43
Adienow I am in recovery mode02:43
trevorjAdie: you mean X recovery mode?02:43
Adiemaybe I can blame my fstab. I not too good at this :(02:43
trevorjAdie: X failsafe mode?02:43
trevorjAdie: or are you in recovery mode selected at th grub menu02:44
Adieya!02:44
trevorjAdie: which02:44
Adiethe last one02:44
LiDaRkkm, check and make sure the settings are correct02:44
trevorjAdie: then how did you start xchat?02:44
AdieI recovery mode from grub, and told it to do something with fstab02:44
trevorjAdie: lol, im just personally interested02:44
Adiethen booted up from the recovery menu02:44
trevorjAdie: ah02:45
trevorjAdie: pastebin your fstab for me02:45
Adieokay02:45
cfhowlettwhereami: if you've a separate partition, /home can be preserved.  Just don't format it.  Otherwise ...02:45
Adiehttp://pastebin.com/XRh54tQ602:45
kkmsettings are correct and which connections and methods i should use02:45
trevorjwhereami: the livecd will preserve everything unless you tell it otherwise02:45
AdieI used some mount configurations tool :|02:45
trevorjAdie: lol, use a text editor02:45
AdieNOOOO02:46
whereamitrevorj, well, by "livecd" I really meant installer.02:46
trevorjwhereami: same thing ;)02:46
Adiehow can you tell me to use a text editor when I don't even know what I am suposed to type on02:46
Adie"plz mount my other drives on boot plz"02:46
trevorjAdie: man fstab02:46
Adiethat doesn't work :(02:46
trevorjAdie: =P02:46
bustacapAny way of getting the side bar to lock in place instead of hiding?02:47
trevorjbustacap: thats the default02:47
Adie:|02:47
trevorjAdie: they are ntfs ?02:47
Adiesettings > appearance >behavior tab02:48
Adiethere is an auto hide the launcher setting ^_^02:48
trevorjAdie: change the fourth column to 'defaults'02:48
Adietrevorj, yup yup02:48
Adieokay02:48
trevorjAdie: also02:48
trevorjAdie: don't use /media/blah02:48
trevorjAdie: use /mnt/blah02:48
kkmis there any way to add widgets or gadgets in ubuntu like we do in windows02:48
trevorjAdie: mkdir the targets as well02:48
Adiethe reason I didn't stick with the defaults is because the defaults of the program mout it in read only02:49
trevorjkkm: there's multiple softwares to do so in apt02:49
Nogalanyone know how to add a bash command to run at login?02:49
trevorjNogal: ~/.bashrc02:49
trevorjkkm: I reemember one being called superkaramba02:49
LiDaRNogal, rc.local02:49
trevorjkkm: but idk if that one's good anymore02:49
trevorjkkm: I haven't used it in ~5-6 years02:49
Adiebrb ^_^02:49
ciscbroHello, I am in the /dev folder trying to figure out how ubuntu sees the 4 usb ports on my dell laptop. I am trying to mount a usb to serial cable to a usb port so I can connect the console port of a cisco router - any guidance?02:50
bustacapAdie, ty, I guess I didn't see that when I looked.02:50
trevorjadie: wait02:50
trevorjbleh02:50
kkmtrevorj : ok fine ..02:50
cfhowlettciscbro: also check in with #ubuntu-server they might be able to help02:50
trevorjciscbro: usb to serial?02:50
trevorjciscbro: just use screen02:50
trevorjciscbro: you don't mount anything02:50
trevorjciscbro: I'm assuming it's a PL2303 chipset02:50
Nogaltrevorj: trything that now, brb02:50
trevorjciscbro: so just do screen /dev/ttyUSB002:50
trevorjciscbro: this works because it sees the serial connection and uses it like a PTY02:51
kkmLidar : are you there02:51
Nogalstill doesn't work, what's the path of rc.local?02:52
LiDaRNogal, its in /etc/02:52
trevorjNogal: it works02:52
trevorjNogal: ~/.bashrc runs on interactive logins02:52
trevorjAdie: hi02:53
Adietrevorj, still broken ^_^02:53
trevorjAdie: sorry I told you it wrong02:53
trevorjAdie: lol, change ntfs to ntfs-3g02:53
ciscbrotrevorj: thank you for the pointers, I received a message "sorry could not find a pty"02:53
Adiewell, you can tell me what the problem is when I show you %_%02:53
trevorjciscbro: sudo02:53
Adiedeal?02:53
unkzuck3rsomeone uses cakephp with nginx?02:53
trevorjciscbro: or add yourself to the proper group02:53
unkzuck3rI'm having problems02:53
trevorjunkzuck3r: I have before02:53
Adiehttp://i.imgur.com/LKmkD.jpg02:53
Nogaltrevorj:  but when trying to add the "thunar --daemon &"  line, it does not load.02:53
Adieubuntu stops loading there :x02:53
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trevorjNogal: whats thunar02:54
kkmwhat shortcut key to use to shut ubuntu down02:54
trevorjNogal: is it an X app?02:54
NogalIt's the default file manager for xubuntu.02:54
trevorjNogal: what DE02:54
trevorjNogal: /wm?02:54
trevorjkkm: power button02:54
Nogalxfce/xfwm02:54
trevorjkkm: acpi power button *02:54
trevorjNogal: do they use the standard autostart desktop location?02:54
ciscbrotrevorj: awesome! thank you. I am going through the linux command line publication and just got to the permissions portion. This was sort of an emergency thing, you are the best02:55
unkzuck3rtrevorj: how you set the file /nginx/sites-available/default?02:55
trevorjciscbro: np!02:55
trevorjNogal: ie, .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart02:55
unkzuck3rtrevorj: can you help me?02:55
trevorjunkzuck3r: I juse do something like this02:55
trevorjunkzuck3r: standard setup really02:55
trevorjunkzuck3r: I'll pastebin it02:56
Nogaldon't see one, I'm trying the rc.local trick02:56
unkzuck3rtrevorj: but works? I appreciate it!02:56
trevorjNogal: that wont work02:56
trevorjNogal: thunar is an X app02:56
LiDaRrc.local is for scripts and backrounded tasks02:56
NogalI'm running it in daemon mode02:56
trevorjNogal: still needs X I guarantee you02:57
aslanHi, I downloaded a RAR file which contain few .txt formate files, but I was unable to open the file in gedit or any of the txt editor... It's shows like encoded file..02:57
Nogallame, is there any way to get this working correctly or should I just switch to another FM altogether?02:57
trevorjNogal: find out where xfce stores it's startup02:57
LiDaRNogal, what are you trying to do ?02:57
chroot_hi, how to create a qt develop environment in ubuntu?02:58
trevorjNogal: if it uses autostart .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart/, then make one02:58
Nogaltrevorj  it does not store it there, i'll have to do more research02:58
trevorjNogal: xfce4-autostart-editor02:58
NogalLiDaR, I'm trying to run thunar in deamon mode at login02:58
trevorjNogal: Google told me that ^02:58
aslanHi, I downloaded a RAR file which contain few .txt formate files, but I was unable to open the file in gedit or any of the txt editor... It's shows like encoded file..02:59
LiDaRNogal, what is the purpose of that ?02:59
somsipaslan: you need unrar02:59
NogalTo not wait an exuberant amount of time for thunar to do its first load02:59
Nogalworks in arch through a simple .xinitrc modification...02:59
aslansomsip, I installed Unrar too, but still it's sowing like that..02:59
somsipaslan: so you have unrar'ed the archive?03:00
trevorjNogal: .xinitrc works on ubuntu too03:00
trevorjNogal: but you need to use the xinitrc session03:00
aslansomsip, Yes03:00
trevorjNogal: selected in lightdm03:00
somsipaslan: hmmm03:01
trevorjNogal: try xfce4-autostart-editor03:02
NogalTrevorj: command not found03:02
trevorjunkzuck3r: pasting now03:02
Adie>:U03:02
aslansomsip, Please help me out..03:03
alkisgaslan: extract the file, open gedit, and then go to file -> open and select the correct (non utf8) encoding for your language03:03
somsipaslan: what do you need to do?03:03
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unkzuck3rtrevorj: Oh man! Thanks. I did it!03:04
aslanalkisg, Somsip : I did it still it's showing the same...03:05
avocadowhat do i need to do to get my browser to show up in ubuntu's "default web browser" selection menu in system settings? (using 12.04 unity)03:05
alkisgaslan: can you upload the txt file somewhere without ever opening it with gedit, so that its contents are not altered? (i.e. don't use copy/paste for that...)03:05
somsipaslan: what should the contents of the file be - are they definitely text files? Just because they are name .txt means nothing03:06
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trevorjunkzuck3r: http://pastebin.com/E2X0w2xQ03:07
NogalYeah, I'm just going to have to find a new file manager to replace thunar, and there's no way I'll use nautilus, anyone have a suggestion? I03:07
trevorjunkzuck3r: thats what I use, php-fpm with nginx03:07
somsipNogal: pcmanfm03:07
unkzuck3rtrevorj: me to03:07
unkzuck3rtrevorj: me &too03:08
aslanalkisg, Sure I will copy that some where and give you the link now. Thank you for helping me a lot..03:08
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unkzuck3rtrevorj: thanks man! Very useful!03:08
trevorjunkzuck3r: np03:08
avocadonevermind, i figured it out http://askubuntu.com/questions/166455/how-do-i-make-luakit-my-default-browser03:08
trevorjciscbro: you can also use minicom or gtkterm03:09
trevorjciscbro: but screen is just so nice and easy ;)03:09
ciscbrotrevorj: on a sidenote, I'm just learning linux and how the kernal works. I'm running bohdi which is ubuntu based and I have a generic VBox with an XP client.03:09
ciscbrotrevorj: but the Vbox doesn't recognize any of my usb ports03:09
trevorjciscbro: install the extras package03:10
ciscbrotrevorj: yeah, I am astonished at how awesome screen is03:10
trevorjciscbro: it's proprietary crap in my opinion03:10
trevorjciscbro: kvm is nice too ;)03:10
ciscbrotrevorj: well I don't even need it now that you've shared screen03:10
Nogalsomsip: just installed it, I like it so far, brb for a test run of first boot03:11
somsipNogal: cool. It's not fancy, but it's small and quick03:11
Nogalsomsip you are awesome, thank you.03:12
somsipNogal: easy enough :)03:12
riz0nHello guys, I am setting up an Ubuntu Server 12.04, and am going by the Server Guide. I am trying to set up SASL Authentication in Dovecot, on page 237, it refers to editing a file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf. It wants to uncomment lines auth default section, in socket listen{ }. The problem is, the dovecot.conf file does not contain the lines as the documentation includes. Can someone tell me03:12
riz0nthe file that I need to edit that contains this portion of the configuration? Thanks.03:12
Nogalsomsip: does this have 'open terminal here' and '2pane mode' options?03:13
cfhowlettriz0n: #ubuntu-server might be better ...03:13
Nogalsomsip: found terminal option, just looking for 2pane03:13
riz0nI will ask them. I figured I would ask here since there is a much broader audience.03:14
somsipNogal: F4 for open terminal, I use CTRL-T for tabs rather than split screen, or more often I open two instances of pcmanfm if I really want that03:14
Nogalsomsip: alright, I've also got emelfm2 for backup for my two-pane needs :P I do like pcmanfm as a default though, much more zippy than thunar ever was, and it's not useless like nautilus03:15
LostMonkso this may be a stupid question, but where do I set my screensaver and screen timeout?03:16
ciscbrotrevorj: you meant VBox is proprietary junk right?03:16
cfhowlettLostMonk: not stupid.  what version of ubuntu are your running03:17
hakaruneSo on mint i symlinked the home folders (i.e. Documents, Downloads, Pictures, et al) to my shared NTFS partition (between win7 and linux), but forgot how i did it. How do i do on Ubuntu 12.0403:17
LostMonkuh, whatever is current on the site03:17
LostMonk12 something03:17
Nogalhakarune: ln -s <target> <link>03:18
cfhowlettLostMonk: Ubuntu 12.04 then.  look in system settings03:18
hakaruneLostMonk it's under system settings appearance03:18
LostMonkthanks03:18
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hakaruneThanks Nogal, i could have sworn i dud more so thet appeared in the nav pane and didn'tconflict with current folders03:19
LostMonkhrm, all I have is background, theme and launcher icon size03:19
cfhowlettLostMonk: screensaver behavior is definitely in system settings ... somewhere.  :)  I can't be more precise as I'm on UbuntuStudio which is xfce based and has a slightly different layout03:20
LostMonkkk03:21
LostMonkwill search some more then03:21
Nogalhakarune: not sure what you mean by conflicting, unless you've already got symlinks, then ln -sn <target> <link>03:21
Nogalas per nav-pane that should be fm-spceific03:21
hakaruneNo, did a fresh install on wed, just could have sworn there was an extra step, but idk lol.03:22
Roasteddumb question - but if I drop a script in cron.weekly, it'll run.... weekly? No? Do I have to do anything else in specific to get it moving or is simply dropping it in place enough?03:22
davidhi guys , is there any way to access a solaris desktop from ubuntu?03:29
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jagginessdavid, solaris sux03:30
cfhowlettdavid: can't see why there wouldn't be, but don't ask me how...03:30
hakaruneOk have a big problem...03:30
davidhi guys , is there any way to access a solaris desktop from ubuntu? just like we access windows through rdp without using vnc as vnc settings have to be done on the server also03:30
mn2010Do you mean in the sense of VNC03:30
davidi mean , other than vnc03:30
davidsince in vnc i have to do settings on the solaris server as well ,03:30
mn2010VNC is more unix specific, RDP is WINX specific03:30
jagginessdavid, maybe X11 tunnelling with ssh, but it'll be slower than vnc or nx03:30
datruthHow can I chroot a user to their home directory when their connected via ssh?03:31
mn2010Well if you have SSH installed, X11 tunneling in possible03:31
davidi want to straight away access solaris remote desktop through ubuntu , what would be the best way03:31
mn2010nevermind..03:31
jagginessdatruth, just sftp? (if not then see how to make a jailroot -- you'll have to google jailroot ssh ubuntu)03:31
kyle__mn2010: Um, vnc is NOT unix specific.  It's fairly generic actually.03:31
davidi want to be able to login to solaris desktop using my credentials , from my ubuntu client03:31
datruthjagginess: thanks03:32
kyle__david: Local network?03:32
davidyes , local , and as well as remote03:32
hakaruneSo i moved home to old_home and couldn't login after reboot. Followed advice online to boit with live cd and copy all contents (sudo cp -R ) of old_home to home. I still can't login though03:32
datruthjagginess: is it easier to just set perms on like /home etc ?03:32
jagginessdatruth, you can easily do a jailroot for sftp only03:33
kyle__david: And you want to use the solaris machine as a terminal to the ubuntu system, the ubuntu system as a terminal to the solaris system, or the solaris system AUTHENTICATING off of the ubuntu system?03:33
datruthjagginess: no I dont want it for sftp only I want it for the actrual ssh connection03:33
jagginessdatruth, (with an sshd option), but jailrooting a shell access you have to do manual work03:33
Nogalhakarune: mv /old_home /home03:33
hakaruneOk will try that, thanks again Nogal (was following a post about how to use a storage partition as home folder before i got on here)... it didn't work -__-03:35
david@kyle : thanks for asking , actually i have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop , and want to access a solaris gui ,( solaris system AUTHENTICATING off of the ubuntu system?)03:35
jagginessdavid, read your history.. i gave an alternative03:36
Nogalhakarune: Yeah, I normally only bother with that when setting up my partitions and mounting the storage partition as /home. You should be able to mount to another location without any issues, like /home/username/storage03:36
LiDaRkyle__, quit being lazy walk across the room if you want to use solaris !!03:36
kyle__david: that's saying two differeing things I think :)  Solaris authentication off of ubuntu is, login to solaris with your ubuntu username and password.  NIS is a nice way of doing this, reasonably secure (not hugely, but reasonably).03:37
kyle__LiDaR: The only solaris boxes I have access to are E420Rs.  They make more noise than a business jet.  Walk to the basement.03:37
gryi think they just want to remote desktop into the solaris with possibly a different password03:37
davidi have some application dependencies , and to pull of some reports from solaris machine , so i want to login to solaris from my ubuntu client the way i login to windows03:38
davidwindows using rdesktop03:38
kyle__david: If you want to use solaris software, but display it on ubuntu, you can use X forwarding, via XDMCP, or ssh/telnet into solaris, set your DISPLAY variable to your ubuntu system, and run the software.03:38
hakaruneNogal:  it does auto mount at boot as /home the tutorial had me edit the fstab so it mounts at boot as /home and move home to old_home ... could it still be mounting at boot and making it so i can't login?03:38
grydavid, probably just run xrdp server on solaris and rdesktop could be able to remote connect to that too03:38
kyle__david: You want a remote solaris desktop? That would be either XDMCP or VNC,03:39
kyle__david: XDMCP is very very fast, but your data can be sniffed on the wire, so it's only for internal use.03:39
Nogalhakarune: very possible, but unfortunately I have to go.03:39
Nogalyou probably want to work through the tutorial you followed backwards to undo changes you made to fstab03:40
david@kyle : thanks , can i configure XDMCP on ubuntu?03:40
davidwithout doing any configuration on solaris server?03:41
hakaruneOk, thanks03:41
kyle__david: Yes.  If you google for XDMCP, you can find articles on the LTSP site.  They should get you pretty far.03:41
kyle__david: You may have to enable some stuff on the solaris server, but I doubt it.  This stuff has been enabled by default from back when it was SunOS (BSD based), through every version of solaris I played with.03:42
kyle__david: Of course the last one I played with was quite awhile ago.03:42
david@kyle : ok03:43
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ocmsRzrhi, I'm trying to connect a desktop to my wireless network.  I want03:44
ocmsRzr  to have Internet->Wireless Laptop->Router->Desktop03:44
Adietrevorj, I foxed it :x03:47
Adiefixed03:47
LiDaRocmsRzr, wouldnt having net->router-> computers make more sense ?03:47
Adieima continue to use these ati drivers, but the issue with my three screens is it was larger than the virtual screen maximum as defined by xorg03:47
ocmsRzrsorry, let me explain my situation a little more03:48
Adieit was limited to around 4200 px wide, and I exceeded that03:48
ocmsRzrI have a wireless router/modem combo from my ISP.  I have one desktop that doesn't have builtin wireless.  Its in a physically separate room and running cable to it isn't feasible.  I want to connect an old laptop to the wireless network and share its internet connection with the desktop03:49
riz0nocmsRzr: why dont you get another router that supports DD-WRT and save yourself the headache?03:50
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d34d1ys1nzWhen trying to connect to a vpn on ubuntu, is it required to close my browser for it to work?03:51
ocmsRzrI understand the accepted way of doing it.  I've had it set up with a crossover cable in the past.  I was just wondering if its possible.  I'll either find the crossover cable or buy a wireless router that I can bridge later03:52
ocmsRzrI just wanted the machine online tonight03:52
LiDaRocmsRzr, its possible03:52
Nico1Hey all03:55
thufir_configuring mailman fails because the FQDN is wrong:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman  it doesn't work when I try "newlist mailman" as suggested.  Instead, mailman replies with "Illegal list name: mailman@dur".  where is it getting "dur"?  the FQDN, hosts and so forth are all set to "dur.bounceme.net".03:55
Nico1I'm currently installing Ubuntu through WUBI. I've always been a Windows user and I'm looking to branch out. I guess I would like to know what to start with / where to start.03:58
cfhowlettNico1: don't wubi is my advice.03:58
cfhowlettNico1: wubi is a TESTING platform for windows users to sample ubuntu.  It is NOT a permanent installation solution.  So sayeth the wubi developers.03:59
kyle__Nico1: Desktop or laptop?  Actually, either way, I think you should get a cheap usb drive, and run linux off of it.  Much better performance than wubi, and will let you keep your comfort zone of windows on your hardware, without risking it.03:59
Nico1Ah ok. I guess that is the purpose I am using it for currently. I'd love to have a dedicated machine for Ubuntu in the future.03:59
alien64to be frank wubi sucks04:00
cfhowlettNico1: If you're inclined to merely test ubuntu, I'd suggest virtualbox over wubi, but that's just my bias.  If you want a permanent installation, look into dual booting04:00
cfhowlettNico1: or use kyle_ method - USB is very effective04:00
kyle__Nico1: If your system has an SD card slot (and can boot from SD), you could get a 8/16/32GB sd card and run off of it...04:00
kyle__I used to carry an ubuntu install on SD to test laptops with.04:01
Nico1Once I'm inside of Ubuntu, where is a good place to start poking around?04:02
cfhowlettNico1: depends what you want to do.  make music: audacity, make videos: openshot, make documents: libreoffice, edit photos: gimp04:02
Super_DogNico1:  What'cha want to do?04:03
grythey disconnected04:04
barnexIs there a way to make unity's switcher not reorder windows when switching? Or some workaround that will switch focus to the next window and can be made into keyboard shortcut?04:04
Super_Dogbarnex:  still on 10.04 on a lot of my machines...  I thought you could turn Unity off in CCSM...???04:07
barnexyes, but other available switchers seem to behave the same way.04:07
barnexAlso I want to use unity, just get rid of this one stupid behaviour04:08
Super_DogI'm pretty sure there's a Unity icon in CCSM - Have you monkeyed with the settings?04:08
Super_DogBuried deep in the bowels... :-)04:08
barnexThere's a Unity Icon and I've monkeyed04:08
barnexonly bools related to switcher are "automatically grid", "show minimized", and "bias alt-tab to prefer windows on the current viewport"04:10
Super_DogCan you turn Switcher feature off and go with one of the other facilities in CCSM?  I know there's a batch of options.  One is the ring switcher and the other is the one that's like iTunes' cover flow...04:10
Super_DogDon't have my Unity system booted right now...04:10
barnexI've checked those switchers and there doesn't seem to be option for it. And they all behave the same way04:10
kyle__Is there a way to disable the dash "windows key to search" when vinagre is fullscreen?04:10
Super_Dogbarnex: Can you explain "exactly" what you mean by "re-order" windows?  I'm using 10.04 and I have standard "Shift Switcher" on...04:12
barnexSure. When I have three windows open: A, B, C, and window A is active. I hit alt-tab once to get to the next window (B). I release alt-tab.04:13
barnexNow I'd expect to hit alt-tab again and get to window C, because it was after B on the list last time I checked04:13
barnexbut now the order is B, A, C and I need to hit alt-tab twice to get to C04:13
Blue1sanity check - wine does NOT support usb, right?04:14
lickalottgents, running into an odd issue.   I installed ubuntu to /dev/sda but added 3x 500GB drives after installation.  they showed up as sdb, sdc and sdd.  I rebooted and not /boot shows up against sdb and my mounts in fstab won't mount (likely because /dev/sdb1 is supposed to be mounted to /media/<FOLDERNAME>)  anyone know whats going on here?04:15
Super_Dogbarnex:  I think you're maybe just doing it wrong....  I just hold alt key down and I cycle through the open windows while hitting tab with the alt key remaining depressed...04:15
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Super_Dogbarnex: Holding down shift will reverse the order of the cycling if you want to go backwards to an open window....04:17
Super_Dogsame way as it does in windows and in mac...04:17
barnexSuper_Dog: Thanks, I'm aware of those techniques, I just don't like them04:18
Nico1I should not have installed WUBI.04:18
lickalott^^ true04:18
lickalotttried that for all of 15 mins, then deleted04:18
barnexBecause I hate to look and think when doing something simple like changing active window04:18
Nico1I restarted my machine and it would not let me boot.04:18
lickalottVM is the best way to go to have both04:18
barnexAnd this way 'distances' between windows change all the time and require thinking.04:19
L4urHello04:19
UbuntuHelp_Is the Ubuntu Repository currently offline?04:19
Super_Dogbarnex:  been doing this for so many years this way I honestly don't even think about it....  trust me, you get used to it quick if you do it enough...04:20
L4urI love apt-get :))04:20
Nico1lickalott: Any specific amount of system resources that I should assign it?04:20
Super_Dogbarnex:  which switcher are you using in Unity?04:20
lickalottVM?04:20
RajiHello Everone. Can any please tell me a open source mail server for lan , i want to install it on my ubuntu 12.04 desktop.04:21
Nico1lickalott: Yes04:21
kevin_hey guys. sometimes my usb devices just randomly stop working. does anybody have any idea? here is a dmesg trace. https://gist.github.com/cbec335ee57374c2dd6f04:21
barnexSuper_Dog: Static switcher, I've some other issues with unity one.04:21
lickalottI only gave mine 25gb for storage and 2GB ram.  Shouldn't need more than that unless you plan on using it for stuff like WINE or a lot of process intensive stuff.04:22
barnexAnd those issues were window/app idea.04:22
stiv2khi04:22
D-coyo/04:22
stiv2khow to stress test my graphics card from ubuntu live CD?04:22
lickalottHD 1080p porn?04:23
D-coy:D~04:23
hectorSolarisBoy, it`s working now04:23
RajiHello Everone. Can any please tell me a open source mail server for lan , i want to install it on my ubuntu 12.04 desktop.04:23
lickalottRaji http://bit.ly/OEa23X04:24
stiv2klickalott lol04:24
Super_Dogbarnex:  Not sure there is a real answer unless you figured out a way to re-code the behavior of the order of the windows.  Probably someone on here at a higher pay grade than me would have to answer that one.04:24
lickalott;+\p04:24
stiv2kthe machine doesnt have internet so i'd prefer not ot have to run cat5 to install anything04:24
stiv2k:/04:24
lickalotti got nothing for ya man.  do you have 2 disc drives?04:25
kevin_and when i say random, it's pretty random. i'll be typing or moving my mouse, then it just stops... doesn't work when i replug in either04:25
UbuntuHelp_What is wrong with the Linux Repos I'm trying to install things but 0/xMB downloaded..04:25
lickalottUbuntuHelp_ can you get to other parts of the interwebs?04:26
newbchessplayerdoes anyone know a fix yet for the random flash s-t-a-r-t- -a-n-d- -s-t-o-p-s that can only be temporarily fixed with a full reboot?04:27
lickalotthad an issue with my interfaces once and had a similar message04:27
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Nico3Would someone like to be my Ubuntu mentor?04:33
WeThePeoplenico3, wazup04:33
lickalottrm -rf *04:33
lickalottJOKING!04:33
cfhowlettNico3: nope.  but answering ONE ubuntu question is a reasonable request.  for more extensive support and mentoring, see your local linux user group or ubuntu loco04:34
cfhowlettlickalott: stop now.04:34
lickalott?04:35
Nico3I guess I need to figure out what I would like to do in Ubuntu.04:35
cfhowlettNico3: office documents?  edit music?  make graphics?  edit photos?  ...04:36
cfhowlettNico3: and, of course, games.  look in the ubuntu software center for ideas.04:36
Nico3I've got libreoffice installed.04:36
WeThePeoplenico3, go for the goods.. open office04:37
WeThePeopleidk04:38
lickalottdo you just want to get more familar with command line Nico3?04:39
david__how can I make unity hide when I open up windows in max size04:41
AdieYou can set unity to autohode04:41
david__how?04:41
Adiebut it will always autohide04:41
wan26compiz?04:41
Adiesettings > appearance > behavior04:41
david__what about douging windows?04:42
Nico3lickalott: Sorry I didn't see your message. I guess I'm just going to play around a little bit.04:46
david__does everyone here use unity?04:46
david__or do other people use other DE ?04:47
wan26i use it :]04:47
brandonI just use unity04:47
lickalottare you looking to learn more about command line entry and stuff or are you wanting to use the GUI side more?04:47
brandonI've been playing around with like 5-6 different linux distributions and I keep coming back to Ubuntu and Unity lol04:48
david__I dont mind command line04:48
david__brandon me too. Just came back to Ubuntu04:48
TreaverSudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install will not work due to Ubuntu Repositories. ca.archive.ubuntu.com can someone tell me why?04:49
david__hard to get use to though. While unity is pretty that bar does get in the way04:49
brandonYeah, I hate it on my laptop.  Seems to take up a lot of space, but its not bad on the desktop04:49
hectori`m on a 64 bit system (12.04) and i can`t install ia32-libs it says `package have unmet dependencies` any clue?04:49
cfhowlettTreaver: maybe those mirrors are temporarily out of service?  try setting a different software source04:50
wan26hector have you got multiarch support04:50
hectorwan26, idk?04:50
kevin_david__: i don't use unity. i use gnome classic with no effects04:51
hectorwan26, u mean ia32-libs-multiarch?04:51
david__I am thinking about cinnamon04:52
brandonI liked cinnamon, Mint is a solid distro04:52
david__Kevin how did you get gnome classic04:52
david__brandon what browser do you use btw04:53
brandonFirefox/Chrome04:53
brandonChromium**04:53
Adiechromium vs chrome04:54
Adiegogogo04:54
david__I feel that chromium has bad integration in unbuntu with the max  and minimize and close button04:54
brandonYeah04:54
brandonthat bothers me a lot04:54
brandonlol04:54
david__know what I mean?04:54
david__do you know how to fix it?04:54
kevin_david__: uhm... you can try instructions at http://www.itworld.com/software/272614/use-gnome-classic-ubuntu-1204 for getting gnome classic04:54
brandonI think there's a way to make it look better.  One sec..gotta reinstall chromium04:55
wan26no, hector i thought you were installing that to run 32 bit binaries on a 64 bit machine, multiarch is the alternative to doing that04:55
king_cobrawhy not just install Mate desktop environment ..04:56
hectorwan26, exactly, i need to run a 32bit app on my 64bit system04:56
daneve05hello guys, is this the support channel of ubuntu04:56
cfhowlettdaneve05: it is.04:56
WeThePeopleyes04:56
kevin_well i am going to sleep. goodnight04:56
glassresistoranyone know how to install the ubuntu software on andriod, i saw the advertisement on ubuntu.org but no install instructions or vendors selling it installed04:57
brandondavid_, ok you can make it look better.  At least get rid of the double window buttons.  Wrench -> settings -> personal stuff -> and then select the option to use 'system title bar and borders'04:57
cfhowlett!arm|glassresistor:04:57
ubottuglassresistor:: ARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel.04:57
daneve05i got a problem in my bluetooth connection04:57
TreaverOk someone please give me step by step instructions for getting new repos cause the ubuntu's aren't working or connecting04:57
daneve05anyone can help me04:58
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daneve05i'm using ubuntu 12.0404:58
cfhowlettTreaver: in ubuntu 12.04?04:58
WeThePeopletreaver, packages.ubuntu.com04:58
TreaverttreYes in ubuntu 12.0404:58
cfhowlettTreaver: ubuntu update center, settings, software sources04:58
david__what do you mean by wrench?04:58
theschwartzthe wrench icon, top right04:59
theschwartzof chromium04:59
david__o ok04:59
theschwartzI think that makes it look better integrated than the default setting05:00
glassresistorubottu: im specifically talking about this http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android05:00
ubottuglassresistor: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:00
glassresistoroh haha05:00
glassresistorcfhowlett: i was specifically talking about http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android, is that the same thing?05:00
Super_Dogany of you guys slapped a full upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04.1 LTS... just noticed this became available on a couple of my 10.04 LTS desktops today...05:00
theschwartzSuper, I would probably just do a clean install05:01
theschwartzif you want to upgrade05:01
cfhowlettglassresistor: iirc android ubuntu is under development.  ARM is available now.05:01
david__Nice05:01
david__perfect05:01
theschwartzok awesome05:01
Super_DogI know.  I have some LAMP stuff - basically an AjaxPlorer install on this unit and didn't want to start from scratch...05:01
theschwartzAhhh05:01
daneve05_hello, my wi-fi has no problem but my bluetooth cannot detect any device05:01
daneve05_ nor i cant even enable it or enable the visible button05:01
j3fhi guys.. how i can install graphi driver on my notebook mg101a3 ?05:01
david__would have never guessed05:01
daneve05_please hellp05:02
glassresistorcfhowlett: thanks, the advertising made it sound already here, what does ARM look like? is it vanilla ubuntu on andriod? is there desktop level hacks?05:02
theschwartzdaneve, have you tried posting to the forums?05:02
cfhowlettglassresistor: never used it, but I think  you can run it in virtualbox?05:02
theschwartzdavid, yeah it took me a while to find that too05:02
theschwartznot sure why its not by default05:02
j3fhi guys.. how i can install graphi driver on my notebook mg101a3 ?05:03
cfhowlettglassresistor: sorry, VBOX won't work.  try qemu05:03
daneve05_theschwartz: nope, but i found same question there and yet still no answer05:03
glassresistorcfhowlett: thanks i mean its cool, im just a little confused as to how well this could work05:03
theschwartzIs the thread old?  If so, then I would go ahead and post your problem again05:04
cfhowlettglassresistor: we're all waiting to learn more.  :)05:04
theschwartzquick question, what IRC client is everyone using?05:04
Super_DogXchat...05:04
j3fhi guys.. how i can install graphi driver on my notebook mg101a3 ?05:05
glassresistortheschwartz: i presume different ones05:05
glassresistorirssi though05:05
theschwartzlol05:05
cfhowlettj3f: what driver do you want?05:05
theschwartzyeah I know, just getting a feel for whats out there.  i havent used IRC on Ubuntu, let alone use IRC in years....05:05
cfhowlettj3f: better yet, what graphics card do you have?05:05
j3fn10 family05:05
j3fis notebook mg101a305:06
wan26theshcwartz you may want to have a cloak05:07
theschwartzhuh?05:07
j3fsomeone have idea ?:C05:07
david__whats the difference between remove and complete remove in synaptic?05:07
haliasHello, I'm trying to install a dual boot Windows 8/Ubuntu 12.04.1. My disk has Windows 8 preview already installed but I left an 80GB empty partition. When I boot off the Ubuntu CD installer, it doesn't recognize my existing Windows partition and only sees a full empty disk. Is this a known issue?05:07
wan26winfs05:08
theschwartzwan26, what do you mean I should have a cloak?05:08
cfhowlettdavid__: remove removes the app, purge also removes the config files in /home - or thus has been my experience05:09
cfhowletthalias: something to do with uefi.  my uefi hackintosh has the same blind spot when I upgraded ubuntu05:09
hectoranyone know how to get the ia32-libs installed?05:10
Super_DogWhat do you guys think of this technique to virtualize my existing Ubuntu desktop install into VirtualBox:  http://goo.gl/7Mqet05:10
LiDaRapt-get install them05:10
hectorLiDaR, i got the card to work properly05:11
cfhowlettSuper_Dog: sounds good in theory.  However, plan for failure, back up /home and place the iso on standby05:11
hectorthe problem is now the game D:05:11
haliascfhowlett: Is there something I can do about the UEFI?05:11
LiDaRhector, sweet05:11
Super_DogKind of what I was thinking.05:11
barnexOk, I wrote a script that sort-of works as a switcher... Time to bed05:13
cfhowletthalias: I don't think there's a solution.  windows 8 isn't even released yet, so the back hack hasn't been done.  Consider virtualbox on windows 8 to get ubuntu05:13
Super_Dogdoes dd write to ntfs drives?  sounds like I should probably grab an old drive out of my stash and hook it up with a USB header to do this...05:13
daneve05_i got a problem on my bluetooth, i cannot enable it in ubuntu 12.04, please help05:13
cfhowletthalias: or boot ubuntu via USB or cdrom for now.05:14
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haliasok. So about VirtualBox, I've been trying that too :) Is there a known problem with Fullscreen mode? Whenever I turn on Fullscreen mode, my windows don't seem to have proper focus and my keyboard doesn't seem to send characters to the terminals/apps.05:15
Super_Doghalias:  You can also play "musical hard drives" if your bios supports it.  Just change the boot order in the bios every time you want to swtich OS's...05:15
Super_DogThat gets you around any problems with Grub2 not recognizing the Windows 8 or what not...05:16
gogetaSuper_Dog: most bios do05:16
cfhowletthalias: 2 versions of vbox are available.05:16
gogetaSuper_Dog: i thought windows 8 uses that awful efi05:16
cfhowletthalias: the one in the repos is basic.  For full support, dl directly from oracle.05:16
haliasSuper_Dog: Thanks for the thought, but I only have one disk.05:17
cfhowletthalias: AND download the extension pack05:17
haliaschhowlett: I downloaded VirtualBox from Oracle.05:17
Super_DogLast I checked it was same as Windows 7...  if you install 8 to one disk and Ubuntu to another - and then switch bios boot priority - don't see why that wouldn't work...05:17
gogetahalias: why would you whant windows 8 anyways05:17
cfhowletthalias: extension pack?05:17
haliasI installed the "Install Guest Additions" from the menu if those are extensions.05:18
gogetaSuper_Dog: he said he has one disk05:18
TreaverOk I still haven't gotten an answer. I tried sudo apt-get install PlayOnLinux and it stopped at the ubuntu.com thing. Then I tried from the Software Center and it's downloaded 0mb/xxxmb05:18
TreaverCan someone tell me how I can fix this?!05:18
Super_DogCan you find another? :-)05:18
gogetaTreaver: try running apt-get update first05:18
Treavergogeta, I have. It stopped at the ubuntu.com thing too05:19
haliasBasically, I don't want to pay for a Windows 7 license. I think it's too expensive. Windows 8 looks like it will be a better deal when it finally comes out. My system died so I needed to get a machine up and running and I couldn't wait until October.05:19
gogetaTreaver: then the repo is down05:19
TreaverWhen will it be up05:19
gogetahalias: it is out05:19
gogetaTreaver: dunno05:20
zIzgogeta: only RTM i believe, public release is still to come05:20
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daneve05__ubuntu 12.04 doesnt detect my built-in bluetooth device05:21
gogetahalias: your machine if it came with 7 should have a key printed on it05:21
zIz you find another? :-)05:21
TreaverHalias, if you need to temporarily download a torrent for Windows 7 and use your Genuine key it is legal.05:21
gogetahalias: yep you wont even need a cracked copy05:22
gogetahalias: just the retail iso05:22
cfhowletthalias: digital river .com is the official win7 download site.  download the iso, activate with your legal key and you're done05:23
haliasI built my own machine. (It is a frankenstein of old and new parts.) So it didn't come with Windows 7. My last machine was 2000.05:23
TreaverIs ubuntu offline completely?05:23
gogetahalias: they sell you you the liance where you get the cd from does not matter05:23
Treaverhttp://ubuntu.com/05:23
gogetahalias: i see05:23
cfhowlettTreaver: works for me..05:23
Super_DogI've got a Technet subscription.  Easy to download any ISO you want there...05:24
TreaverCould it be my ISP is blocked or something?05:24
gogetahalias: you can even install without a key and use it for 30 days also legal05:24
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lickalottSuper_Dog, let you a message in -server05:25
lickalottwho here is on mIRC right now?05:26
WeThePeopletreaver, no you are prob not connected to the net05:26
gogetalol mirc05:26
TreaverI'm on the net using the IRC05:26
cfhowlettlickalott: have you an actual ubuntu support question?05:26
haliasI didn't realize I could install windows for 30 days without a key.05:27
lickalottwhats your issue man?   I did have one and it was answered.  I'm just asking a general question right now.05:27
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WeThePeopletreaver, its not your isp05:27
histoTreaver: works for me05:27
gogetahalias: yea microsoft did that with 705:27
TreaverCould it be my IP?05:27
WeThePeopleno05:27
histo!ot | lickalott05:27
ubottulickalott: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:27
haliasThough I think I need to hold out until Oct 26 which is about 60 days :(05:28
Adiehalias, windows 7 allows you to not activate for 3 months, I think05:28
gogetahalias: well relly if you on linux what do you need windows for05:28
Adieafter 1 month it just starts bugging you05:28
WeThePeopletreaver, what does the page say when you type in the address05:29
Zeptishello there05:29
PhyBoyhello05:29
lickalottwell...nazis.... where are you now?  windows talk isn't ubuntu support05:29
cfhowlettZeptis: greetings05:29
Zeptisthanks, cfhowlett05:29
gogetalickalott: his windows 8 install isnt being seen by grub05:29
* cfhowlett "nazi's"?05:29
TreaverAbsolutely nothing, just loads infinity05:29
lickalott<halias> I didn't realize I could install windows for 30 days without a key.05:30
Zeptisquick question so I don't brick X: can I replace unity-greeter with openbox-session in lightdm.conf?05:30
histoTreaver: could be your dns server05:30
gogetalickalott: becouse 7 would work05:30
Treaverdns server?05:30
halias I have some old music hardware that only works in Windows.05:30
gogetaTreaver: well do websites work05:30
phy1729Treaver: do you know how to ping?05:30
histoZeptis: the login screen or you just want to replace the entire session?05:30
TreaverYes other websites work, I'm on freenode now05:31
haliasstupid proprietary drivers.05:31
gogetaTreaver: if websites work then the dns is working05:31
Zeptislogin screen05:31
histohalias: good luck with it working in windows 805:31
histoZeptis: openbox isn't a login screen05:31
monkeypawshello, anyone have a recomendation for a command line app that will backup specific files on a regular basis?  I was just going to use cron + tar?05:31
WeThePeopletreaver, might be your location at the moment05:31
WeThePeopletreaver, wait a bit05:32
Adiersync?05:32
monkeypawsrsync eh?05:32
Treaverhttp://fpaste.org/bhOW/05:32
Zeptisit has a session manager; I'm trying to get X to use that, but I've added it to the ~/xinitrc that ubu doesn't have, and it doesn't work. Now I'm a little lost.05:32
histomonkeypaws: cron + rsync05:32
Adiersync is built into ubuntu05:32
gogetaTreaver: yea might be the rought to ubuntu is just down for you atm on te isp side05:32
phy1729Treaver: run a traceroute05:32
TreaverPhy how do I do that05:33
gogetaTreaver: if google etc are still working fine05:33
phy1729Treaver: traceroute ubuntu.com05:33
histoZeptis: I did not know openbox had a session manager that's cool. You'd have to replace lightdm with it05:33
TreaverCan't be found05:34
TreaverUnknown command05:34
phy1729oh ubuntu doesn't come with it05:34
Zeptishisto: that's helpful to know, thank you. Do you know what script calls lightdm on startup?05:34
crimsonmaneit's trace, not traceroute05:34
gogetaphy1729: i think it does just abbreavted05:34
crimsonmaneor ifconfig trace05:35
phy1729who did that?05:35
histoTreaver: it resolves and pings fine here not sure what the issue is for you. Somehting per your location05:35
hectoranyone knows how to install ia32-libs on 12.04?05:35
histoZeptis: let me do some hunting around05:35
Zeptisthank you.05:35
gogetaTreaver:  tracert ubuntucom05:35
TreaverIt won't work either trace ubuntu.com not found05:35
gogetaTreaver: ubuntu.com05:35
barnexHmmm, now I have weird issue with binding keyboard shortcuts. Some shortcuts seem to fail for no reason.05:35
barnexsuper+j, super+k, super + shift + number05:36
barnexbut super + number works ok..05:36
TreaverStill won't work :p05:36
phy1729no he needs the traceroute package for all those05:36
gogetaTreaver: yep its ot installed05:36
WeThePeopletreaver, try tomorrow05:36
TreaverI need it tonight before school tomorrow!05:37
gogetaTreaver: how bought ping google.com05:37
ZeptisTreaver: what's your problem? I've come in late.05:37
histoZeptis: you can sudo echo "manual" >> /etc/init/lightdm.override   to disable it from autostarting on boot.  Then to renable just sudo rm /etc/init.lightdm.override05:37
gogetaTreaver: it could just be on the isp side atm05:37
Zeptishisto: thank you very much05:37
phy1729we could ping setting the TTL manually05:37
phy1729ping -t <TTL> ubuntu.com05:37
phy1729incrementing the TTL until it doesn't work05:38
Treaverno such ttl05:38
phy1729ping -t 3 ubuntu.com05:38
gogetahisto: thats kinda a extra step05:38
gogetahisto: you can just do service ldm rmov05:38
gogetahisto: remove05:38
phy1729by <TTL> I meant put the TTL number there05:38
WeThePeopletreaver, have access to another comp at the moment05:38
Treaverno I do not sadly..05:39
histogogeta: yeah but then harder for him to re add it later05:39
Treaverhttp://fpaste.org/nw06/05:39
phy1729Treaver: ping -t 3 ubuntu.com05:39
gogetahisto: same command but add05:39
TreaverI did that phy05:39
crimsonmanei was late to the party... Treaver what is the problem from the beginning?05:39
haliasI have an Intel HD 4000. in VirtualBox, Is there something I can do to get OpenGL acceleration to work (or work better)? I installed the "Guest Additions" and toggled the 3D check box. But glxgears seems kind of slow and I can't get Braid to launch.05:39
phy1729oh look at that05:39
phy1729Treaver: keep increasing the number until it just fails05:39
crimsonmanehalias: not with VB ... other VM's are smoother.05:40
Zeptis@gogeta: do you happen to know which script calls lightdm on startup? Ubuntu's X is a tad strange.05:40
gogetaZeptis: it shold be in rc.d05:40
Zeptisthank you05:41
gogetaZeptis: most start up programs are there05:41
WeThePeopletreaver, what browser you using05:41
TreaverIt's not working in any browser but Chrome05:41
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Zeptistreaver: what problem are you having? I'm late to the party.05:41
GatorAlliI'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS 64bit on my Dell XPS 15 from the Live CD. But, when I get to Installation Type, I get this screen http://i.stack.imgur.com/dsKXS.png .  The bootloader installation location list does not show /dev/sda. My fdisk is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169284/05:41
phy1729Zeptis: can't ping ubuntu.com05:42
phy1729apt-get problems05:42
TreaverGatorAlli, make a new disk.05:42
GatorAlliTreaver: reformat?05:42
gogetaGatorAlli: llol05:42
TreaverGator make a completely new installation disk05:42
gogetaTreaver: you can always set another repo05:42
GatorAlliTreaver: k05:42
TreaverI had that problem before, it's a corrupt image05:42
Treavergogeta, how do I do that05:43
cfhowlettGatorAlli: was this ever a hackintosh?05:43
ZeptisTreaver: can you 'ping 91.189.94.156' ?05:43
GatorAllicfhowlett: no05:43
phy1729GatorAlli: check the checksum of the iso you downloaded05:43
gogetaTreaver: go to the update manaer and settings05:43
cfhowlett!checksum|GatorAlli05:43
ubottuGatorAlli: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows05:43
TreaverNo I can't that ip05:43
gogetaTreaver: you should see mirror settings etc slect other then just hit the slect best buttion05:44
Zeptisbut you can ping everything else, correct?05:44
mercue19100hi all05:44
Zeptishello mercue.05:44
gogetaTreaver: iits a drop down menu it should say ubntu main atm05:45
cfhowlettmercue19100: greetings05:45
mercue19100i use slatiz05:45
TreaverI checked the main server is that right?05:45
TreaverIt was on canada05:45
gogetaTreaver: well you can try that05:46
Treaver:/ I just want to get PlayOnLinux and Eclipse IDE.. So hard05:46
phy1729I'd still just ping while increasing the TTL to find where the problem is05:46
gogetaTreaver: but you can also slect other and thers a option there to do a repo scan05:46
mercue19100vertuel machine with vmware05:47
mercue19100i setup it correctly05:47
mercue19100i can't use internet05:47
ZeptisTreaver: you could use the Arch repositories with git, but that's a little bit more fiddly than apt-get05:47
TreaverI'm running best mirror scan05:47
Treaverarch reposs?05:47
cfhowlettTreaver: I was into ubuntu for years before I learned the magic of localizing my repo mirror.  Best thing evar!05:47
gogetaTreaver: that will get you a working repo05:47
Zeptisto get your Eclipse and PlayOnLinux05:47
TreaverOk thanks one sec I am workign on finding best server then i will try zeptis way05:48
Zeptisbest of luck, Treaver05:48
gogetaTreaver: best to sitck to debs lol05:48
TreaverI was installing a deb and it had to download stuff and it wouldn't cuz of the ubuntu stuff05:49
gogetaTreaver: its funny how many people dont knoe tha option is there05:49
Zeptiscould you please be more specific, Treaver?05:49
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gogetaTreaver: relly the case when a bug update comes out and the main server gets overloaded05:50
Zeptiswere you using apt-get?05:50
gogetabig05:50
TreaverI downloaded the PlayOnLinux.deb and tried to installusing both terminal and software center05:50
TreaverBoth had to download stuff from the ubuntu.com orsomething05:50
gogetaZeptis: his apt is just on a down server am05:50
felipe_Brzi'm having trouble echoing a string to a file even though i'm using sudo. The file is inside /etc/apache2/conf.d ... I'm getting "-bash: Permission denied" error message...05:51
TreaverWell it might have worked second I will tell ya05:51
felipe_Brzany tips?05:51
Guest85087does anybody know a good place to download ebooks?05:51
gogetaTreaver: run update first being you changed repos05:51
gogetaTreaver: if that wrking your good05:51
Zeptisother than scribd, 85087?05:51
Guest85087what is scribd?05:52
Guest85087a website?05:52
Zeptisyes it is05:52
Zeptisthink of it as mediafire for pdfs05:52
Guest85087let me take a look... is it .com?05:52
wan26project gutenberg for free ebooks05:52
Phiscribehttp://www.gutenberg.org/05:53
Zeptishttp://scribd.com05:53
WeThePeoplep2p05:53
Zeptislooking for textbooks, 85087?05:53
TreaverI think that worked :)05:54
TreaverI will be back next problem I get (Because we all know there will be one) :P05:54
WeThePeoplefelipe_brz, use gksudo nautilus05:54
gogetaTreaver: lol05:54
Phiscribehttps://play.google.com/store/books has a free books section also05:54
Treaver(: Ubuntu.com is still offline..05:54
Treaveron my computer05:55
Guest85087I want a good place to download all kind of ebooks, but mostly fiction05:55
wan26try windows manuals05:55
ZeptisI'd go to gutenburg, then, 85087.05:55
gogetaTreaver: did you  run apt-get update05:55
Zeptisscribd is mostly 'liberated' textbooks and the life05:55
fishsceneTreaver: If you ping ubuntu.com, what IP address does it return?05:55
Zeptis*like05:55
felipe_BrzWeThePeople:  what?05:55
gogetaTreaver: then your package should install05:55
gogetaTreaver: your not using ubuntus servers atm05:56
WeThePeoplefelipe_brz, are you trying to edit a file?05:56
Treaverhttp://launchpad.net/ -- Repos are offline for me also..05:56
wan26treaver can you access ubuntu.com via proxy05:57
felipe_BrzWeThePeople:  no, I was wondering why output redirecting wasn't working but I already fgured it out, thanks05:57
WeThePeoplefelipe_brz, nvr mind i got questions mixed05:57
gogetaTreaver: so we are not talking abought payonlinux now?05:57
TreaverYes.. I can get on ubuntu with proxy. I'm scared. Am I blocked?!! Why?!05:58
wan26that's weird05:58
gogetaTreaver: have you tryed ubuntu.ca05:58
gogetaTreaver: it just sounds like the isp is having a issue05:58
ferniis routing problem propably05:58
fernitry mtr ubuntu.com05:59
Treaver:/ I am sad because I don't want to be blocked and I want to download 12.04.105:59
TreaverCan I just update using ubuntu to 12.04.1?05:59
wan26you might be able to download what you need via proxy...05:59
gogetaTreaver: with your apt fixed you can pdate just fine05:59
gogetaTreaver: update06:00
Treaverhow do I update to 12.04.1 with command06:00
gogetaTreaver: in your update manager it should say upgrade avable06:00
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TreaverNope none available :p06:00
drag0niushow to list all entries on iptables?06:00
gogetaTreaver: are you runnning 12.04?06:00
TreaverYes06:00
gogetaTreaver: then you are running that latest version06:01
TreaverOh lol why did they change it to 12.04.106:01
Treaver:P06:01
ZeptisTreaver; can you 'sudo apt-get update'?06:01
gogetaTreaver: thats just a newer iso with all the updates06:01
Treaver:O Oh06:01
gogetaZeptis: yea after he got a new mirror apt is fine06:01
drag0niusguys, how to list/delete rule from iptables?06:02
drag0niusi just redirected glassfish to port 80 with some command on net and cannot access http internet anymore xd06:02
wan26i do it through gufw06:02
mobherohi, what will be the name of 27th hard disk drive , like /dev/sda  /dev/sdb ..... /dev/sdz  -- pls help me..4206:02
nonix4Hmm... www.ubuntu.com, security.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org do not seem to be responding. Is this known issue?06:03
wan26or sudo ufw status, man ufw06:03
TreaverNonix4 I had that same problem 4 minutes ago!@@!06:03
gogetanonix4: yes06:03
TreaverYou gotta go to change the server :P06:03
Zeptisnonix4: I believe that one local server is down06:04
TreaverIf you goto ubuntu.com it doesn't work either!06:04
gogetanonix4: seems its down for some people06:04
Treavernonix are you on Charter?06:04
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nonix4Treaver: teliasonera06:05
gogetaTreaver: seems its not responding for me eyther06:05
gogetaTreaver: nv there it goes06:05
Treaver:O you too gogeta!06:05
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TreaverWhat's the best IRC client for Ubuntu?06:06
nonix4traceroute doesn't seem to get past 3 hops @ London1.Level3.net06:06
Zeptisdepends on how you define best06:06
gogetaTreaver: no big deal im shure it will be back up once the isp sees they have a node down06:06
wan26pidgin, xchat, irssi, many work well06:06
baizonim using xchat06:07
crimsonmanepidgin is not a good irc client because the window resizes as you type beyond the input box's visibility06:07
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wan26i am using a few, xchat mainly06:07
gogetacrimsonmane: i run is fs so i never notced that06:07
gogetait06:08
TreaverWhat is 7z, it says I need it for PlayOnLinux06:08
Zeptis7z is a file compression manager06:08
gogetaTreaver: 7zip \06:08
wan26for 7 zip06:08
Treaver--7zip?06:08
Zeptisthere's a plugin for the default roller06:08
TreaverHow do I isntall that on linux? I thought we already had archive manager06:08
gogetaTreaver: its a bit better then rar etc06:08
drag0niushow would i make glassfish work on port 80 on ubuntu server?06:08
gogetaTreaver: if it needs it it should grab it06:09
drag0niuswhen i simply changed it to 80 in glassfish config i could not restart server06:09
Zeptissome dude on 7chan made it for delicious cake, originally. lol.06:09
babolatpdtp1hey all. on shutting down my computer i get "Could not get the system bus…Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory". Any idea how to solve this?06:12
Zeptisgogeta: earlier, you meant /etc/rc.d, correct?06:12
daolinsudo apt-get install p7zip06:12
babolatpdtp1is that to me?06:13
Zeptisno, babolatpdtp1, I think that was to Treaver.06:13
babolatpdtp1ah ok06:13
TreaverThanks06:14
TreaverInstalling Office 2010 in Ubuntu(: Yay06:15
nonix4Hmm, sites like http://www.internethealthreport.com/ agree with issue being somewhere in Level3.06:15
babolatpdtp1anyone have an idea? the directory /var/run/dbus does exist06:16
babolatpdtp1as does the file it was mentioning06:16
ZeptisTreaver: not Libreoffice?06:16
ZeptisI mean, Java is silly, but they're phasing it out06:17
TreaverI don't like LibreOffice. I'm installing Microsoft Office 2012 for OneNote -- School06:17
Zeptis:P but that doesn't respect your freedoms06:18
TreaverWhat do you mean?06:18
ZeptisTreaver please search for >>Stallmanquest.ogg06:18
TreaverWhat am I looking for06:19
Zeptisa video on youtube or some other server06:19
wan26material on the fsf as well06:19
Treaverwhich video06:19
Zeptisfor lols, mostly: stallmanquest06:19
Zeptisexcuse me, GNU/stallmanquest06:20
histo!ot06:20
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:20
babolatpdtp1while you're at it, be sure to join the church of emacs06:20
TreaverI have those freedoms(:06:20
Zeptismy pinkies are not ready06:21
babolatpdtp1hehe06:21
ZeptisI'm sorry that I don't know why it's giving you a dbus error on shutdown06:21
babolatpdtp1yeah i don't really get it..the file is clearly there so...06:22
Zeptisthat's interesting; is there a script that you're running on shutdown?06:22
daolininit 006:22
TreaverYES! IT works! Office 2010 in Linux06:23
cfhowlettTreaver: via wine??06:23
Zeptis2C#4me06:23
TreaverYes basically cfhowlett06:23
floatingfeijoahi, does anyone know how to disable timeout on grub customizer?06:23
histo!ot | Treaver Zeptis06:23
ubottuTreaver Zeptis: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:23
WaltherTreaver: Now that is something that you should definitely write about in a blog / Forums06:23
babolatpdtp1Zeptis: nope not that im aware of06:23
Zeptissorry histo06:24
WizardGood morning.06:26
ZeptisTrying to replace lightdm, but both /etc/rc.d is empty, and ubu doesn't use a ~/.xinitrc06:26
Wizardo_O06:26
Zeptisgood very early morning, Wizard.06:26
Zeptisalso, lol06:26
Zeptiswhat's calling lightdm so I can replace that line with whatever session manager I prefer?06:27
WizardZeptis: try dpkg-reconfigure your-dm06:27
Wizard/etc/init.d/lightdm06:27
WizardBut it depends on some configuration.06:28
Zeptisthanks for the second one06:28
ZeptisI'm not trying to go back to Level3 user, just a shell06:28
rax-if I used dist-upgrade && echo 'complete' it should wait until the upgrade has finished before doing the echo right?06:29
Wizardhttp://www.debianadmin.com/howto-boot-debian-in-text-mode-instead-of-graphical-mode-gui.html06:30
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Wizardrax-: Right.06:30
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WizardBut only if dist-upgrade returns 0.06:30
rax-hm ok06:30
rax-is it likely to not return 0 ?06:31
Wizardrax-: Probably if upgrade will go wrong.06:32
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histoZeptis: I told you how to bypass it earlier or you can service lightdm remove06:40
Zeptissorry histo, lightdm actually decided to butt in and stopped my openbox06:41
ZeptisI'm editing /etc/X11/default-display-manager now06:42
histoZeptis: Zeptis: you can sudo echo "manual" >> /etc/init/lightdm.override   to disable it from autostarting on boot.  Then to renable just sudo rm /etc/init.lightdm.override06:42
histois the other way06:42
hermanlfhow can I easily set ubuntu 12.04.1 to use a proxy?06:42
Zeptisit denied me access using sudo06:42
Zeptisbut it's cool, I got it from here, thank you06:42
wan26settings>network06:43
histohermanlf: desktop or server?06:44
hermanlfdesktop06:44
hermanlfwan26's suggestion works.  Thanks a bunch.06:44
histohermanlf: click on the network icon by the clock and edit connections06:44
hermanlfgot it thanks06:44
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histoZeptis: what denied you access?06:45
wan26what was all that? just now?06:45
brontosaurusrexwan26, that was floodbots flooding the channel.06:46
histowan26: what floodbot?06:46
timfrosthisto: redirection operators  such as ">>" won't work with sudo  as the redirection is done by *your shell* before sudo is invoked.06:47
wan26yeah i wondered what was going on,06:47
histowow two remote do-release-upgrades from 10.04 to 12.04 went okay over ssh without a hitch06:48
histotimfrost: oh yeah the modifying of lightdm.override06:48
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histotimfrost: didn't understand what he was talking about06:48
Guest66064help required on Ubuntu 12.04 Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:432b] not working06:48
cfhowlettGuest66064: talk to me06:49
brontosaurusrexhisto, ubuntu server?06:49
histo!broadcom | Guest6606406:49
ubottuGuest66064: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx06:49
histobrontosaurusrex: yeah two servers06:49
Zeptisas I said earlier, I found /etc/init.d/lightdm, so I'm just having that 'exec openbox-session'06:49
Guest66064cfhowlett  thanks.. can u tell me how to get this thing working.. i am new to ubuntu06:49
brontosaurusrexhisto, cool, i have one lucid waiting, so no problems to 12.04 ?06:49
cfhowlettGuest66064: what installation method did you use?06:49
calcfreak83 /part06:50
histobrontosaurusrex: nope none seen just a few prompts along the way about obsolete packages06:50
brontosaurusrexright06:50
Guest66064lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 works fine06:50
riz0nHey guys, I have configured postfix and dovecot on ubuntu 12.04, but when I send a test message to the server, the mail goes to /var/mail/user ... what do I need to change to have it go to ~/Maildir ?06:50
cfhowlettGuest66064: what method did you use to install the broadcom driver?06:50
histobrontosaurusrex: the do-release-upgrade script also starts a secondary sshd listening on 1022 just incase.  I used screen also just so I didn't lose the tty along the way for a connection issue06:51
garmethello! Do anyone know of a 'remote desktop' software that has decent performance? I've tried vnc and X11forwarding over ssh. Both had quite poor performance.06:51
wan26google has a cross platform plugin for their browser that accomplishes that garmet06:52
brontosaurusrexhisto, any special url where those instructions are writen?06:52
Guest66064sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source this says it is alredy installed06:52
histogarmet: teamviewer works rather well06:52
brontosaurusrexgardar, nomachine perhaps06:52
brontosaurusrexi mean garmet06:52
Guest66064chflowlett   sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source but says that it is already installed06:52
histobrontosaurusrex: next time you ssh into your lucid box you will see them at the message prompt since 12.04.1 is out06:52
Guest66064i upgraded 12.04 thru cable net06:52
brontosaurusrexhisto, i see06:53
cfhowlettGuest66064: personally, I went straight to the STA - No Internet Access method and had my wifi up and running in minutes.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx06:53
histobrontosaurusrex: it will notify that a new version is availible and sudo do-release-upgrade to install06:53
histo!upgrade | brontosaurusrex06:53
ubottubrontosaurusrex: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade06:53
histobrontosaurusrex: the upgradnotes page has more info06:53
Guest66064cfhowlett  i am following the steps in it06:53
Guest66064cfhowlett    ~$ sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl says "wl" not found06:54
cfhowlettGuest66064: no you're not.  STA No Internet Access option means you're NOT using apt-get install.  Read the tutorial06:54
brontosaurusrexhisto, running06:54
garmetwan26 , histo , brontosaurusrex I will look into these thx.06:54
Guest66064cfhowlett can i post the result somewhere for you to see06:55
thufir_I'm not sure which mailman I'm using, but it's ubuntu 12.04.  I'm not able to initialize a new list:  https://gist.github.com/3485273  newmail returns:  Illegal list name: mailman@dur    however, the hostname is the FQDN dur.bounceme.net so I'm not sure where mailman is getting that domain name.06:55
cfhowlett!paste|Guest6606406:55
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Binbohi guys, by default, is the NIC has been set with a limit below its full capacity?07:00
brontosaurusrexthufir_, perhaps : service --status-all07:00
brontosaurusrexthufir_, and go from there07:00
thufir_brontosaurusrex:  [ ? ]  mailman is the status.  but the problem is that it used "mailman@dur" and not "mailman@dur.bounceme.net" .  It seems a somewhat common problem without apparent solution:  http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-August/052587.html07:02
brontosaurusrexthufir_, sorry, too dumb in mail stuff here, once or twice i set the postfix, but i forgot everything (on purpose) ...07:03
thufir_brontosaurusrex: I hear you.  It's finicky stuff, very old school.07:04
ansi_chhowlett i installed it through synaptics package manager07:04
cfhowlettansi_: right.  Never worked for me which is why I adopted the STA no internet access method - which, fwiw, never failed me.07:05
floatingfeijoaHi, how do I configure Burg?07:05
brontosaurusrexthufir_, i could't put that better :)07:05
cfhowlettansi_: of course, ymmv07:05
ansi_cfhowlett can u send me the link07:05
ansi_again please07:05
cfhowlett!broadcom|ansi_07:06
ubottuansi_: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx07:06
cfhowlettansi_  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx07:06
roblOn the 12.04 installer, why can't I resize the windows 7 main partition?07:07
ansi_lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 as step one gives this 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:432b] (rev 01)07:08
ansi_what next07:08
Zeptistry gedit, robl07:08
roblYou mean the editor?07:08
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Zeptisoh man, it's late; gparted.07:09
Zeptissorry07:09
roblNo prob.07:09
roblIs there some reason the graphical installer can't do that?07:09
roblJust not mature enough?07:09
cfhowlettansi_: go to the STA no internet access section of the tutorial07:09
ansi_ it says      bcmwl-kernel-source is already the newest version07:10
Zeptisseriously, I'm an ubuntu noob. I sort of switched over from Mandrake.07:10
ZeptisI have no idea07:10
daolinrobl:I resize that in windows by easeus07:10
robleaseus?07:10
daolinyes07:10
Zeptisbetter to use daolin's method unless you remember how much disk windows is actively using07:11
roblIt's fresh windows 7 install.07:11
roblI need maybe 100 gigs on top of the default.07:12
Zeptisthen the size is ~40GB then07:12
ansi_cfhowlett but i have internet access through wire07:12
roblCool.  So 150GB should be plenty.07:12
Zeptisright on, robl07:12
ansi_so do i still need to do the steps for no internet access07:12
roblCool.  Thanks guys.07:12
Zeptisbest of luck with the dual boot07:12
Corkanyone know whats up with launchpad?07:12
cfhowlettansi_: OK, well, best to ask someone else.  I use the no internet method because it ALWAYS worked for me.07:13
Pitel_laptopany idea why ubuntu.com is not reachable from here? tracepath shows it ends in ae-2-52.edge4.London1.Level3.net07:13
roblIs gparted on the graphical installer?07:13
ansi_cfhowlette   ansi@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl07:13
ansi_FATAL: Module wl not found.07:13
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ZeptisI don't believe so07:13
ansi_cfhowlett  ansi@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl07:13
ansi_FATAL: Module wl not found.07:13
roblAh.  Fastest way to boot gparted?07:13
Zeptisyou can 'sudo apt-get gparted'07:14
CorkPitel_laptop: its prob a datacenter thats down or something, ubuntu.com and launchpad.net is both down07:14
ansi_can anyone help me with STA broadcom driver installation on ubuntu 12.0407:14
cfhowlettansi_: just for grins and giggles, did you try sudo modprobe wl ??07:15
ansi_yes i did..07:16
Zeptisansi_"07:16
Zeptisdo you have a way of getting a tar.gz onto the other computer?07:16
ansi_and it says07:16
ansi_sudo modprobe wl07:16
ansi_FATAL: Module wl not found.07:16
ansi_FATAL: Error running install command for wl07:16
roblgparted is on the graphical install07:16
robl(yay!)07:16
Zeptisbecause there's: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php07:17
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ansi_Zeptis what should i do?07:17
daolinansi_ :maybe you can install backtrack first,then update ubuntu12.04.1:  )07:17
Zeptisare you currently on the computer in question?07:17
ansi_command for it?07:17
cfhowlettZeptis: yep. I used to do that one but then discovered that the STA No Internet tutorial was MUCH easier07:18
cfhowlett!backtrack|daolin07:18
ubottudaolin: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition07:18
CorkPitel_laptop: looks like canonical has been moving its servers to a new datacenter https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus07:18
daolinsorry07:18
Pitel_laptopCork: thanks07:19
Zeptisansi_: x86 or amd64?07:19
ansi_x8607:19
Zeptisthis should work: "wget http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/hybrid-portsrc_x86_32-v5_100_82_112.tar.gz"07:20
ansi_how do i run this07:21
Zeptisyou untar it with file roller, then follow the readme to make it07:21
cfhowlettansi_: instructions are here: http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt07:22
Zeptiswhelp, just edited init.d to autostart openbox and got that .sh set up. Here's hoping X doesn't throw a fit and start foaming at the mouth or anything. Thanks for the help #ubuntu07:24
hermanlfthere does not seem to be a place to enter username/pass for a proxy in "Network Proxy" settings.  How can I utilize my username/pass?07:25
Zeptiswell, x complained about a broken pipe, but openbox started anyway.07:28
brontosaurusrexis there a command line option to convert xlsx (excel) doc to html ?07:29
ZeptisI'll help you look for one, bronto07:30
Zeptisxhtml or html with tables?07:31
ssta_brontosaurusrex: maybe something like: libreoffice --convert-to html foo.xlsx07:31
brontosaurusrexZeptis, dont care, but its a huge file, both gnumeric and libre calc are tottaly scared07:31
brontosaurusrexssta_, let me try ...07:32
KartagisI'm in the process of purchasing a dedicated server, but I need some advice. can I ask here or does such a channel exist?07:32
drag0niuswhat is some nice web shell soft?07:33
Super_DogKartagis:  Why don't you try #ubuntu-server channle?07:33
KartagisSuper_Dog: thanks07:33
Super_DogAsk over there and I'll tell you what I know...07:34
Zeptishow big are we talking?07:34
antoine__hellow07:34
antoine__I have a little probleme I don't know how can I creat a ftp server on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?07:34
timfrost!ftpd | antoine__07:36
ZeptisI use Filezilla, Antoine__, but I'm largely ignorant, so I'm sure there's something better.07:36
ubottuantoine__: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP07:36
brontosaurusrexantoine__, sudo apt-get install pure-ftpd or similar07:36
Wizard/o\07:38
Amy4kaíÿ^^07:38
Zeptisbronto: how large is that xmlx file?07:38
Wizard*Such* problems require IRC question?07:38
WizardMy God.07:38
WizardWorld will end in December, definitely ;P07:38
brontosaurusrexZeptis, hmm, not that huge, says 3.2 Megs07:38
Zeptisthere are web apps for that, but I haven't found anything for linux that isn't attached to another *Office yet07:39
brontosaurusrexZeptis, google docs refuses conversion07:39
Zeptiszamzar?07:40
ssta_must be *enormous*07:40
floatingfeijoahi does anyone know how I can add new OS's to burg?07:43
floatingfeijoa(burg/grub2)07:43
Zeptisdo you know the partition the OSes are on?07:44
DaDaDOSPromptIs there a menu in pidgin for selecting a webcam and mic device?07:44
floatingfeijoayes Zeptis07:45
floatingfeijoadoes anyone know how I can add new OS's to burg/grub2?07:47
ssta_bbro07:48
ssta_brontosaurusrex: with a simple test xlsx I made, conversion to html by libreoffice seems to be not working properly.  Conversion to pdf works well though07:49
W4spfloatingfeijoa: burg doesn't come with Ubuntu and therefore burgh not supported here.07:49
Zeptisfloatingfeijoa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub207:49
floatingfeijoaW4sp -_-07:51
Zeptisokay. So I swapped out lightdm with openbox, but now ALSA isn't working, even with force-reload. How am I being dumb?07:52
Zeptisalternative question: what's the searchable name of the ubuntu sound plugin?07:54
knobois ubuntu.com down?07:54
floatingfeijoaknobo: nope07:54
Zeptisknobo: it's not for me, but users in Europe and other places seem to be having problems with it07:55
ZeptisCanonical is doing something and the traceroutes don't get past London, from what I've heard.07:55
knoboI'm probably in Europe or other place then...07:55
knoboAny us proxy I can use?07:55
Zeptissocks?07:56
fernihere in finland only one isp (sonera) has problems, with other ubuntu.com etc works fine07:56
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Jordan_Ufloatingfeijoa: BURG only ever had one developer, and he stopped developing it two years ago (according to the commit history at https://code.launchpad.net/~bean123ch/burg/trunk ). GRUB2 has theming support as well.07:56
knobohidemya...com worked :)07:57
DaghdhaHi, several times an hour (7 to 10 times) my bouncer loses connection with the internet. I think it may be related to a network problem on ubuntu, is there anyway to see if my network driver is crashing?07:58
WizardDaghdha: dmesg.07:58
WizardI would blame poor connection :>07:58
ZeptisWizard: do you happen to know the name of the default ubuntu sound server?07:59
gordonjcpDaghdha: your network driver is *not* crashing07:59
WizardZeptis: PulseAudio.08:00
Zeptisthanks mate.08:00
WizardAnd ubuntu.com works for me, in Europe.08:00
Zeptis>>pa_pid_file_create() failed08:00
Zeptislol08:00
Daghdhagordonjcp: Then what is causing it?08:00
Wizardpa like PulseAudio? :P08:00
Zeptisthat's the output if 'pulseaudio' in bash08:01
Zeptistime to config Jack or something, I guess XD08:01
gordonjcpDaghdha: flaky internet connection, most likely08:01
Zeptismight be your DNS, Daghdha08:01
gordonjcpDaghdha: where is it running?08:01
DaghdhaI like to rule out things.08:02
gordonjcpDaghdha: you can safely rule out "crashing network drivers"08:02
DaghdhaIt's not DNS08:02
Zeptiswhat error does your browser return, Daghdha?08:02
Daghdhaa bouncer is a program that relays IRC08:03
raufls08:03
gordonjcpDaghdha: where is it running?08:03
DaghdhaThe bouncer has timeouts, wich is very annoying for the channels i am in.08:03
wan26is it a free one08:03
Zeptisthanks for schooling me, Daghdha.08:03
Daghdhayw08:04
marian2hei guys. i need a good tutorial on how to admin your own VPS with UbuntuOS on it. any recommandation?08:04
gordonjcpmarian2: it's the same as any other server08:05
gordonjcpthe fact that it's on a VPS makes no practical difference08:05
gordonjcpDaghdha: what are you running your bouncer on?08:06
Daghdhaubuntu08:06
gordonjcpDaghdha: can you be more specific?08:07
Daghdha12.0408:07
gordonjcpno, I mean is it on a remote server, on a box at home, how are you doing it?08:07
DaghdhaOh, ok. It is on my NAS in my LAN.08:07
newbie|2Hello all, used UBuntu a few years ago & I'm rusty, I was trying to install an new  program & messed up the code.  Now it wont install & giving me this error: E: Type 'ddeb' is not known on line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list08:08
newbie|2E: The list of sources could not be read08:08
newbie|2I think ths ddeb is the issue, how do i clear that out?08:08
WizardChange ddeb to deb ;)08:08
newbie|2how?08:09
newbie|2sorry a rusty newb08:09
gordonjcpDaghdha: okay, and you're connecting from outside your house?08:09
gordonjcpDaghdha: most likely a) your internet connection at home is flaky and dropping out, or b) your internet connection at home is picking up new DHCP leases more frequently than you'd like and dropping connections08:10
DaghdhaNo08:10
gordonjcpnewbie|2: with an editor, similar to the one you changed it with in the first place?08:10
newbie|2I used the terminal (how do i send you private message like that?08:11
DaghdhaI need to know, no offense, i can make these assumptions myself. But i need to make sure it's not the NAS08:11
gordonjcpDaghdha: there is no way your network driver is crashing08:11
gordonjcpDaghdha: it's unlikely the bouncer is crashing08:11
gordonjcpit's infinitely more likely that it's your internet connection08:11
Daghdhayes, it's not ubuntu. I get it.08:12
* Daghdha keeps looking.08:12
yinhai_stty size08:13
gordonjcpDaghdha: have a look at the stats from your modem08:14
yinhai_I can't use the nicklist with tmux, spend 30 minuts!!!08:14
gordonjcpDaghdha: a home internet connection isn't going to be 100% solid for what you want08:15
Zeptisoh boy, now ALSA won't reload08:16
gordonjcpDaghdha: you really need something with a static IP address, at least08:16
DaghdhaI have static IP. Bouncer been up without issue for months08:18
gordonjcphm08:18
gordonjcpokay, so check the stats on your modem08:19
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Zeptisokay, figured out what it's doing, at least. Pulseaudio isn't outputting to my headphones, but will output via built-in speakers.08:21
DaghdhaIt doesn't do much logging gordonjcp. I'd have to make it log to an snmp server08:22
abdelghanigood morning08:23
gordonjcpDaghdha: does it have anything that shows how long it's been connected?08:24
Daghdhayes, that corresponds with the last reset of the modem 12 hours ago.08:24
gordonjcpDaghdha: and has your bouncer dropped since then?08:25
Daghdhaabout 60 times08:25
HemebondHi all. I need to install libsdl-dev, but libext-dev conflicts with libext-dev:i386 and so apt appears to want to remove all the related i386 packages. Any way to not do that? Pretty sure I need some of them for x86 games. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 x86-64.08:26
Daghdhaduring those drops DNS lookups also fail, i see that in the logs of NAS. So it's either NAS not able to network or ISP down. So it's all assumptions from there.08:26
newbie|2guys I am trying to save a file but having permissions errors, how do I give myself full permission to edit & save files?  trying to edit sources.list08:26
DaghdhaWhat i will do is connect with IRC client to same server. From this PC. And see if NAS and PC both time out.08:26
gordonjcpDaghdha: it really, really sounds like your internet connection is dropping08:27
Daghdhaat the same time.08:27
k1l_newbie|2: run "sudo nano path/to/file" in terminal08:27
gordonjcpI like your idea of setting up a logging server08:27
DaghdhaYes, i know this sounds like it. But i need 100%08:27
newbie|2ok running that code will give me permissions?08:27
k1l_newbie|2: it opens an editor in the terminal, in which you can edit the file08:28
k1l_newbie|2: but are you sure, you want to edit the sources.list?08:28
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newbie|2yes I mispelled ddeb instead of deb & i'm stuck08:29
Zeptis>>How are you gentlemen? All your base are belong to us.08:29
Zeptis>>(openbox recieved signal 11)08:29
Zeptis>>xinit connection to X server lost08:29
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Zeptisfunniest log file in a long time08:29
gordonjcpZeptis: heh, what08:29
k1l_newbie|2: then run the command i mentioned. sort out the typo and safe08:29
ZeptisI got rid of lightdm and unity, and was playing with the sound08:30
k1l_newbie|2: but yoou shouldnt be fiddleing with these files imho08:30
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Zeptisthen X got angry at me because gnome-system-monitor tried to do something with a window manager when I'm not using one08:30
ZeptisI've never seen this08:30
cristian_cHi08:31
Zeptisyo cristian08:31
cristian_cI've installed easy-deb with virtualenv08:31
cristian_cZeptis, hi08:31
k1l_newbie|2: support only here in the channel08:32
Zeptisspecifically: >>'_OB_WM_ACTION_UNDECORATE Unhandled action type' /n >>xinit connection lost08:32
newbie|2I just edited a file in terminal via sudo nano, how do i save & exit the file in termial now?08:32
k1l_newbie|2: crtl+o for saving, crtl+x for exit08:32
cristian_cI've seen what software are installed in the virtual environment (with yolk -l command) and I've not found easydeb in the output list. instead, I've found some applications that I've not installed inside the virtual environment, but outside. How is it possible this?08:33
newbie|2awesome checking it to see if it works now08:34
cristian_cWhat can be happened? Do you have any ideas?08:34
ZeptisI'm sorry, cristian, I've yet to use a VM.08:35
cristian_cZeptis, thanks :) But I'm not using a virtualmachine, but a software called virtualenv08:36
cristian_cI'm using a software called virtualenv: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/python-virtualenv08:36
ZeptisCristian: this person experienced something similar, maybe it could help? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2742980/virtualenv-yolk-problem08:39
cristian_cZeptis, thanks for the link, I see immedately :)08:40
cristian_cZeptis, thanks very very much ^_^08:40
Zeptisyou're welcome08:40
ZeptisDoes anyone know how to get PulseAudio to switch between built-in speakers and headphone jack in CLI? It's only working for my built-in speakers, at the moment.08:42
cristian_cZeptis, I have a look about it :)08:43
cristian_cpulse-audio switching08:43
user_hi all. Having problems with T400 & ubuntu 12 64bits. Just installed, and everything seems to be working fine, until I have noticed "lags" occuring08:45
Zeptisthanks cristian, I'll try that08:45
user_every several seconds + if I ty to change display resolution the machine hangs. I have scanned the forums on the internet, and nothing seems08:45
user_to resolve the issue.08:46
user_Anyone?08:46
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Zeptisuser_, only when you change resolutions, or when you try to use anything larger than default?08:46
user_Zeptis: anything..08:47
Zeptiswhat GPU are you using?08:47
cristian_cZeptis, I'm searching yet :D08:47
user_Zeptis: welp, how do I know that?08:48
user_:)08:48
cristian_cZeptis, maybe you could use hda-verb08:49
user_Zep: oh, got ur question:  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)08:50
user_(lspci provided that line)08:50
cristian_cZeptis, you should study this subject :)08:50
CrataegusHello guys, Just wondering can I add another keyboard layout when on Ubuntu 12.04 live CD08:51
Zeptisokay, that's helpful; try 'grep video /etc/group', user_08:51
ZeptisI will read that documentation, thanks cristian08:51
cristian_cTool to send commands (verbs) to HD-Audio codecs08:52
cristian_chda-verb is a tiny program that allows you to access the HD-audio08:52
cristian_ccodecs directly, allowing you to send commands (verbs) to them. For08:52
cristian_chda-verb to work you must be running a linux kernel with CONFIG_SND_HDA_HWDEP option enabled.08:52
user_Zep: video:x:44:08:52
Zeptisuser_: does that return anything?08:52
Zeptisderp08:53
Zeptisnvm08:53
user_Zep: yes, video:x:44:08:53
Zeptisgroupadd -G video %youruser%08:53
cristian_cZeptis, maybe with hda-verb you can write a script to switch them08:54
cristian_c:)08:54
Zeptisuser_: as grep and /etc/proc pointed out, you're not part of the video usergroup, so adding yourself will allow your binaries access to hardware acceleration.08:55
ZeptisI don't know why Ubuntu doesn't do this by default08:56
Zeptisthen again, Ubu does a lot of weird stuff08:56
KartagisZeptis: there are many, many programs that require adding yourself to some group. devs can't know all of these08:57
Kartagismy $ 0.0208:57
user_Zep: /proc/: thanks! going to try that one. how I do not have to reboot :)08:58
Zeptisbut being part of the video group when there's so much graphics on the web seems silly08:58
Zeptis*not being08:58
lotuspsychjehowto get rid of a square corrupted mouse pointer every cold boot on precise and ati grafix card?08:59
knobowhen will www.ubuntu.com access from europe be fixed?09:02
Zeptisknobo: when Canonical gets their servers moved around, I would suppose.09:03
gordonjcpknobo: what's wrong with it?09:03
gordonjcpknobo: unhelpful, but wfm...09:03
ZeptisDo you want a SOCKS proxy?09:03
ZeptisGordon: I don't know because I'm an Ameriburger, but traceroute for a number of Euro ISPs stops at London Tier309:04
gordonjcpZeptis: strange09:05
user_hehehe, welp had to reboot. machine hanged. and more severe problem: after running groupadd etc, i can not sudo anymore!09:05
user_it says I'm not in sudo group!09:05
user_what can be wrong?09:05
user_or how can I get root now  besides reinstallnig?09:06
gordonjcpuser_: you may have borked your groups09:06
somsipuser_: did you override groups instead of appending to them?09:06
weerhi,problem: i tried to recover my password of my (only one) account (as instructed here: http://naveenubuntu.blogspot.gr/2012/05/recover-login-password-of-ubuntu-1204.html )09:06
gordonjcpuser_: boot in single-user and tread carefully ;-)09:06
user_gord: how do i boot single user?09:06
weerit was successful but whenever i try to log in the screen blanks for a sec and redirects me back to login screen09:07
weerwhat should i do?09:07
user_ok, going to try single user09:07
vmhi how to know which version the ubuntu is installed?09:08
wan26uname09:08
gordonjcpuser_: if you look on the wiki there are pretty comprehensive instructions09:08
hateballvm: run "lsb_release -a"09:08
gordonjcpvm: cat /etc/issue09:08
wan26i wonder, how many ways there is to check lol09:09
knoboZeptis: it's not so important, but thanx.09:09
Stealth2k12hi I am new to Linux, What is the best version of Linux to Install?09:09
wan26ubuntu09:09
Zeptiswhat is best in life, Stealth?09:09
knobogordonjcp: it's unaccessable from some places.09:09
Zeptisthis is what you must answer for yourself09:09
somsipStealth2k12: here, Ubuntu would be the usuall recommendation09:09
gordonjcpZeptis: traceroute shows "odd" results, actually browsing to it works just fine09:09
vmgordonjcp: yes09:09
weer?09:09
vmhateball: doesnot work09:10
gordonjcp!best | Stealth2k1209:10
ubottuStealth2k12: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.09:10
vmwan26: uname gives os version not ubuntu version09:10
wan26vm try settings>details09:10
ZeptisUbuntu's answer is "ease of use", Stealth2k12. If you want something very customizable, it's really the wrong distro.09:10
gordonjcpmost people don't really want "very customisable"09:11
hateballvm: you'd need to run it in a terminal09:11
Zeptisarchlinux users09:11
An_Ony_MooseI removed a bunch of photos from my shotwell library but didn't move them into the file manager trash. Is it possible to do this now?09:11
gordonjcpZeptis: I used to use Arch but I switched back to Ubuntu09:11
gordonjcpZeptis: I prefer Arch's package management but I can't be bothered with all the hassle of installing09:11
hateball!ot09:11
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:11
gordonjcpStealth2k12: you're asking in #ubuntu, so most people are likely to tell you Ubuntu09:12
ZeptisStealth2k12: what sort of relationship do you want you and your Linux?09:13
ZeptisUbuntu has really cool package management, a great driver base, development schedules that don't work on Africa-time, and a huge community to ask questions about09:14
Stealth2k12ok09:14
Stealth2k12I have learned some basics from using Backtrack09:14
lotuspsychjehowto get rid of a square corrupted mouse pointer every cold boot on precise and ati grafix card?09:14
Stealth2k12isthat good or bad09:14
t4nk951IS there still an wifi issue in ubuntu 12.04 ??09:15
wan26Stealth2k12 was backtrack your first experience using linux?09:15
t4nk951Bcoz  i m using 10.04 and there is wifi issue in 10.04 so I m thinking of upgrading it .09:15
lotuspsychje!ot | wan2609:15
ubottuwan26: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:15
weersorry to interfere but im facing a big problem,is there something i can do for my situation?09:16
wan26i was going to then compare it to ubuntu lotus... then end it there. sorry.09:16
lotuspsychjet4nk951: its highly recommended you upgrade to precise 12.04.109:16
ZeptisStealth: backtrack has a very minimal UI compared to the rather heavy Unity/Lightdm/Nautilus used by Ubu. Ubu is for a desktop computer experience, generally.09:16
lotuspsychjeweer: reask your question once in a while in channel mate09:16
lotuspsychjet4nk951: even better, clean install precise ; )09:17
t4nk951ok09:18
lotuspsychje!unity | t4nk95109:19
ubottut4nk951: Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity09:19
An_Ony_Moose!notunity > An_Ony_Moose09:19
ubottuAn_Ony_Moose, please see my private message09:19
t4nk951ok09:21
hsn!radeon09:21
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto09:21
t4nk951lotuspsychje : But what about wifi issue on it ??09:21
rusty149hi, I can't login to Ubuntu using my main account. It accepts password then asks again in a loop. I can login to guest account though. Any Ideas?09:21
wan26t4nk951, simply upgrading sometimes solves wifi issues, but its best to search your wifi model in the ubuntu forums etc09:22
lotuspsychjet4nk951: what about you provide us more info about your problem you have on 10.04? card brand? wpa security?09:22
notwothe applicatiuons I install with wine, how can I ran them later?09:22
An_Ony_Moosenotwo: usually they appear in the Applications menu and/or on the desktop.09:23
An_Ony_Moosenotwo: if they don't you'll have to run them from a terminal as far as I know09:23
Zeptis!notunity > Zeptis09:23
ubottuZeptis, please see my private message09:23
notwoaha09:24
wan26notwo the files may be in your home folder under .wine09:25
notwook I will check09:25
rusty149hi, I can't login to Ubuntu using my main account. It accepts password then asks again in a loop. I can login to guest account though. Any Ideas?09:27
lotuspsychjerusty149:did you forget the old password?09:28
An_Ony_Mooserusty149: are you typing it right? Capslock?09:28
rusty149no, it accepts it then reloads the lightdm login screen. I tried incorrect pass and that displays red text as normal. I can login to tty109:28
An_Ony_Mooserusty149: aaah... my dad had that issue too. it had something to do with gconf. Try renaming ~/.gconf to ~/.gconf-backup then try logging in again09:29
carsten_dbI have a set of 3D video files in mkv format (SBS). I'm using xbmcbuntu on a mini-computer that is a dedicated mediacenter box. Most of the files play fine under xbmc. however, one of them seems to be broken: when playing, it only shows a flashing green screen. The audio however works flawlessly, plus the file plays fine under with vlc under archlinux on my notebook. what can I do to fix this?09:30
carsten_dbside remark: playing the video causes xbmc to crash - I cannot stop the video, and even killing xbmc leaves the machine in a non-responsive state. I therefore think it might be a graphics-driver issue.09:31
gordonjcpcarsten_db: only *one* file out of a set?09:31
rusty149An_Ony_Moose: Thanks. I have solved it now. ~/.Xauthority was owned by root instead of me. Weird09:31
Zeptishave you tried using it in VLC on Ubu, carsten?09:32
gordonjcpit's probably a corrupt file then09:32
carsten_dbthey are not a set in a sense that they belong together, but of the files I own, only one produce this behaviour.09:32
_037whois _03709:32
carsten_dbgordonjcp: but why does it play fine with vlc on my notebook?09:32
carsten_dbgordonjcp: I even tried vlc under ubuntu on the mediacenter box - crash. but mplayer works... *confused*09:33
carsten_dbgordonjcp: thinking that copying the file over might have corrupted it, i compared md5sums - identical09:33
rusty149carsten_db: you can try playing the file with vlc from terminal. It may output a message that it is able to overcome issue.09:34
An_Ony_Mooserusty149: odd. well good thing you solved it09:34
carsten_dbrusty149: thanks, I'll try that09:35
primskihello, using Network Manager and shared connection over wifi as Hotspot, how can I set a DNS server that is being sent down to client?09:35
An_Ony_MooseI removed a bunch of photos from my shotwell library but didn't move them into the desktop trash. Is it possible to remove them now?09:36
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floatingfeijoahi, where do I add a chainloading entry?09:36
wan26carsten_db, maybe try repairing a copy of that mkv file with something like Meteorite which is a repair engine,09:37
Zeptisdo you remember what directory shotwell was using, Moose?09:37
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carsten_dbwan26: thanks a lot, I'll look into that09:39
Zeptisis there a way to get dpkg to be more verbose?09:41
cristian_cZeptis, I think so09:41
cristian_cZeptis, it depends by what you mean with 'more'09:42
al2hello testing09:43
Zeptishello al209:43
user_hi folks. major problems here... how do i boot into single user using wubi?09:43
user_searched the web, but nada....09:44
lotuspsychje!wubi09:44
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Oneiric/11.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/wubi.exe09:44
carsten_dbthis is the log from vlc player: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169553/09:46
user_ubottu: Thanks for the info. I already installed ubuntu using wubi. after messing around groups, my user can no longer sudo - hence i can not root anymore to my system.09:46
ubottuuser_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:46
user_LOL09:47
lotuspsychjecarsten_db:you got all codecs needed to play your special mkv's?09:50
krababbelOn a desktop without Gnome, is there any recommended utility to put the PC to sleep or hibernation? pm-utils work here, but I read that I shouldn't invoke it manually.09:50
carsten_dblotuspsychje: I hope so, how can I check?09:50
lotuspsychjecarsten_db:maybe you can try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras09:51
An_Ony_Mooseuser_: don't mess around with groups. Do you have a root password set?09:51
notwoI am having trouble09:53
notwocant find it09:53
notwo:(09:53
carsten_dblotuspsychje: thanks, I'll give it a try. how can I find out the coded of the file anyway? I tried "file"; but that only responds "Matroska data"09:53
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lotuspsychjecarsten_db: many times the mkv shows the info in title, lke many mediadrives cant play 'HQ' mkv's09:55
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lotuspsychjecarsten_db: AC3 is also a hard one for many players09:55
carsten_dblotuspsychje: ok, thanks :-)09:56
carsten_dbit seems the codec is H264 MPEG-4 AVC1 (whatever that means :-) )09:58
Zeptiskrababbel: pm-suspend and pm-hibernate, maybe?09:59
krababbelZeptis: I can use them, I am not sure if it is the recommended way to do, some tutorial says that doing it manually like that without any frameworks should only be done for debugging.10:01
carsten_dbinstalling ubuntu-restricted-extras leads to occasional updates of the screen (every 10 seconds or so) whereas it was completely black beforehand... I guess this is an improvement :-)10:01
berwhere is the shell in unity ?10:02
krababbelZeptis: so I thought maybe there is a daemon or something for that for users.10:02
lotuspsychjecarsten_db: maybe your grafix card cant handle specific codec mkv's?10:02
T_H_Xber: search for Terminal10:03
lotuspsychjehowto get rid of a square corrupted mouse pointer every cold boot on precise and ati grafix card?10:04
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T_H_Xthen drag the icon into the friggen bar10:04
berwhere is the f·$% shell please tell me10:04
Zeptisor just type console10:04
Zeptisit's bash, but doesn't respond to that10:04
blackshirtlotuspsychje, your mouse?10:04
Zeptislolbuntu10:05
berdo not work10:05
lotuspsychjeblackshirt:yes mate10:05
carsten_dbmight be, afaik it's a AMD Radeon HD 631010:05
beri miss 10.4 lts10:05
blackshirtunusual10:05
ZeptisI miss being able to switch to user level 2 and still have support for features, ber.10:06
wan26ber , tried ctrl+alt+t ?10:07
beralt + f2 dont work10:07
Zeptisctrl+alt+f110:08
berwan26 you are my new idol10:08
Zeptis!nounity10:08
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic10:08
bertnks!!!!10:08
wan26np... if thats what you were actually after10:09
Zeptiswell, time to download some ISOs and move to less RAM intensive pastures, I guess.10:09
DarkStar1Hi all. I just connected a monitor to my machine. which has an nVidia GPU. After restart all seems fine except when I launched netbeans. The window is opened but it seems to be opened out of view10:09
Zeptisbye #ubuntu10:09
DarkStar1how can I bring all windows back into view10:09
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berbye  see you !! tnks a lot!!10:10
carsten_dbdoesn't meteorite have a package yet?10:11
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MaMaDMy Jupiter Notify Auto Change to this Skin http://image.kuheo.com/pic/89fbd1aec443.png ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Why???????10:11
An_Ony_MooseI've written a little (ugly) script to solve my shotwell problem. Anyone interested/where should I put it?10:12
DarkStar1Anyone?10:12
ThinkT510An_Ony_Moose: if you want to share it put it in a pastebin10:13
An_Ony_MooseMaMaD: first of all, please try typing normally. Secondly, you probably changed your desktop theme and it has nothing to do with jupiter.10:13
d1rkp1ttHi All, I been using Ubuntu since 8.04, but I am having some fun with 11.04.... Just cant get VNC to work. Have tried the default vino, tightvncserver, x11vnc, vnc4server...  is it just me, or is something wrong here?10:13
d1rkp1ttSorry I mean 11.1010:13
An_Ony_MooseThinkT510: I just want to put it somewhere for the record in case anyone should need it in the future - preferably in a place that's easy to find, which makes a pastebin suboptimal10:13
compdocd1rkp1tt, do you install qemu-kvm? it can conflict10:14
ThinkT510An_Ony_Moose: put it in a pastebin and make a ubuntu forum post, link to the pastebin from there10:14
lotuspsychjeThinkT510:this morning a big surprise, the square mouse pointer again on cold boot...10:14
An_Ony_MooseThinkT510: will do. Thanks10:15
ThinkT510An_Ony_Moose: no worries :)10:15
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: what hardware did you say you had again?10:15
wan26cartsten_db something similar does have a package, sudo apt-get install mkvtoolnix mkvtoolnix-gui10:15
d1rkp1tt no idea what qemu-kvm is, I dont think so.10:16
wan26id check the dev website first though10:16
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: ati x800 grafix card, now on precise 12.04.110:16
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: is that an old ati or a new ati?10:16
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lotuspsychjeThinkT510:an older card yes10:17
d1rkp1ttI lied I am on 12.0410:18
wan26i mean carsten_db *10:18
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: what graphics driver are you using?10:18
lotuspsychjeThinkT510:howto check again10:18
carsten_dbwan26: thanks :-)10:18
hayhi all... are ubuntu servers down or is it just me? Cannot access www.ubuntu.com and repositories...10:18
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: lsmod10:18
sstahay: www.ubuntu.com works for me10:19
MaMaDI would like to start Jupiter in  Max Performance mode but it always start in  Power saving Mode .  Any way to do it?10:20
compdocd1rkp1tt, I use mainly vnc4server, but that requires some setup. Theres a script that goes into /etc/init.d/ that I had to create from examples on the web10:20
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169586/10:21
d1rkp1ttcompdoc, vnc4server has been good for me as well, but just gives me grey screen with terminal on 12.0410:21
d1rkp1ttI am using it on another ubunut system perfectly10:21
d1rkp1ttOlder release10:21
compdocd1rkp1tt, sounds like your xstart script needs work - I can show you one. let me pastebin it10:22
d1rkp1ttIve tried to comment out different lines10:22
d1rkp1ttcompdoc, Thanks10:23
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: your using the open source radeon driver, i'm using the same on on my revo just fine10:23
compdocd1rkp1tt, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169590/10:24
krababbelAnyone got an external USB-HDD suddenly disconnecting? http://pastebin.com/MWZRTDkR10:24
lotuspsychjeThinkT510:you want paste of xog.log too?10:24
lotuspsychjexorg10:24
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: ok10:24
philhello ppl... a question: i am running 12.04 for the first time and noticed that the update-manager and the apt-get update show different packages for installing. The apt, actually, shows none while the update manager 38 (and actually quite useful packages from what i can see).. anyone knows why?10:24
Anubis can anyone tell me a good free dynamic dns service ?10:25
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lotuspsychjeThinkT510: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169593/10:25
generalsnusPlanetary Annihilation(RTS) Game devs adding Linux support.. looks like a nice game  http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/659943965/planetary-annihilation-a-next-generation-rts10:25
hoshi411anyone know of a decent spec tablet that actually has the audio working with ubuntu?10:26
hoshi411can even run gnome-shell?10:26
compdocphil, the update-manager often shows packages even after theyve been installed if I use apt10:26
hoshi4118 or so hours battery life10:26
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hayssts, doesn't work from any of our servers on different ISPs... could be some routing issue in Slovenia.10:27
philcompdoc: ok.. i can understand that, but even if the laptop was just turned on? I mean, i didnt do an update through apt and then checked the manager... The manager just came up, and then i checked the apt and saw the difference.10:28
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compdocphil, guess its possible that something else is wrong, but in package-manager, what happens if you click the Check button, to force it to check again?10:29
kunnhay: same problem in estonia10:29
philcompdoc: shows the same packages ...10:29
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: can't see anything that sticks out there (although i must admit i'm not sure what i'd be looking for)10:30
lotuspsychjeThinkT510:got a bunch of syslog drm radeon lines too, but not sure if its releveant neither10:30
compdocphil, and if you type sudo ap-get update, and then sudo apt-get upgrade, it shows different packages? apt often shows dependencies right away. The package-manager doesnt show dependencies until you click install10:31
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: lets see10:31
lotuspsychjeThinkT510:ok holdon10:31
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169602/10:32
philcompdoc: the upgrade shows no package for installation, only a few packages held back, much less of course than what the update manager shows10:34
d1rkp1ttcompdoc, one line fixed it10:34
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: looks like the normal loading procedure to me10:34
d1rkp1tt/usr/bin/gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d &10:34
d1rkp1ttcompdoc, Thanks, that was really bugging me10:34
compdocphil, to install the held back packages, I use apt-get dist-upgrade10:35
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: yeah thought so too, isnt there a place where to check for mouse? (if its a mouse problem)10:35
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: i honestly can't see how it could be a mouse problem10:35
compdocd1rkp1tt, if you search for ubuntu-2d, you can see all the sessions your desktop supports. that lets you try the others in the folder10:36
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: so you think its grafix card/driver related?10:36
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: the way your cursor is displayed on the screen is certainly graphics related10:36
user_Any one knows how to boot to single user mode using w.ubi?10:36
compdocd1rkp1tt, but I think ubuntu-2d.session is the best10:36
MonkeyDustwubi :(10:37
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: its already corrupted before i login to unity (at login screen)10:37
d1rkp1ttThanks10:38
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: the login screen requires X and thus graphics to be running10:38
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: what about X restarting would that help?10:39
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: i have no idea sorry, you did say after a warm restart the problem goes away10:39
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: yes, if i just reboot it vanish lol, cold boot in the morning corrupt mouse again10:40
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: that leads me to think it may be related to some sort of buffer or cache being emptied10:40
vividrealityHello, I am trying to install flash player but it says flash player installer has unmet dependencies, that' s all. What does this mean?10:41
szaldefine 'it'10:41
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: theres one bug like this, and the guy thinks its bios setting of video ram memory, but i got this issue on an older laptop without bios settings too10:41
gryszal++10:41
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: but at this point i'm guessing and wouldn't know how to troubleshoot further10:41
evvskowhat10:42
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: well tnx for your time anyway mate10:42
vividrealityI get an error in Ubuntu software center, szal.10:42
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: that sounds plausable, the bios setting about video ram10:42
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: maybe the ram isn't cleared on shutdown so when you next cold boot you get that curruption10:43
evvskome too10:43
phaidrosusing network manager with vpn, it automagically uses dnsmasq on localhost for the remote (vpn) dns server. works for e.g. firefox, but not in the terminal. any hints what the reason might be?10:43
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: how would one clear ram before shutdown?10:44
szalvividreality: try from the commandline for a change -> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-installer <- (if that is the correct pkg name; if not, please substitute accordingly)10:44
szalvividreality: and precede that with a 'sudo apt-get update', just in case10:45
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: what sort of bios settings do you have relating to your graphics card?10:45
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haywhich server should be used for sources.list in case even our Slovenian mirror (sl.archive.ubuntu.com) isn't accessible? It is also strange to me that this hostname resolves to some UK IP address... is this intended?10:46
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: i got same mouse problem on a laptop without bios settings for video ram, just boot options..so i doubt really its a bios setting10:46
gordonjcphay: just because it's geographically closer, doesn't mean it's a better choice10:46
szalhay: try one in the geographical vicinity (e.g. at.archive.ubuntu.com)10:46
error4o4Changing Date on my Ubuntu 10.4 server... Date automatically reverts back to current after 30seconds.  Any idea which servise does that?10:46
lotuspsychjeThinkT510:agp or pci, video ram choise: 32.64.128 etc10:47
hayI see, thx10:47
szalerror4o4: how are you changing the date?10:47
drag0niusanyone using shellinabox?10:47
szal!anyone | drag0nius10:47
ubottudrag0nius: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.10:47
error4o4szal: date +%Y%m%d -s "20121201"10:48
vividrealityszal, the terminal says it depends on libnspr4-0d but it' s not going to install10:48
Neo17this channel is huggggeee10:48
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: does the other laptop have the same graphics card?10:48
drag0niuswell i cant run shellinabox on https10:48
drag0niusgetting ssl_error_rx_record_too_long10:48
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: i also read a guy thats adds a mouse fix line to xorg conf, but here i cant find any xorg conf file10:48
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: also an ati card on laptop, not the same version10:49
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: there isn't a xorg.conf file by default10:49
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: what line did he add?10:49
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: lemme check that10:49
szalerror4o4: any reason to do so?10:49
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: what card does the other one have?10:49
fellipehi, what's the apt command to forget a package wich is pending to be reinstalled?10:50
valdur55Hello. I can't open ww.ubuntu.com site. It keeps loading10:50
error4o4szal: any other suggestio,  I am testing some software in development and need to set a date in future10:50
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: when was the last time you checked for bios updates for both machines?10:50
szalerror4o4: sounds to me like an ntp client resetting the time10:50
error4o4szal: yea might be, researchingnow10:50
lotuspsychjeThinkT510:desktop ati x800, laptop some old ati mobile, both older systems, no bios upgrade ever lol10:50
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: i'd definitely check for bios upgrades10:51
railsraideri am trying to setup monit to start a service if it's not running what condition should i use?10:51
railsraidernever mind10:52
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: Option "SWCursor" "on"10:52
phaidroshow do I determine which dns server is used in a terminal/console?10:53
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/corrupt-mouse-cursor-fglr-monitor--ftopict473348.html10:53
phaidros(/etc/resolv.conf shows localhost, on localhost ist dnsmasq run by network manager)10:53
error4o4szal: any idea which process might be syncing the date and time: http://pastebin.com/Twmf8eBw10:55
no_gravityGood Morning from Hamburg! Sometimes when I want to reboot (by running reboot as root) the system just hangs forever. Probably because some sshfs mount that is confused. How do I rebbot anyway?10:55
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: so if precise has no xorg.conf by default, how can one see settings somewhere?10:55
lotuspsychjeno_gravity: any errors on F1 after reboot?10:56
chroothi, guys, why how to install kvm in ubuntu 12.04?10:56
no_gravitylotuspsychje: what do you mean with "erros on f1"?10:57
chrooti used it sometime ago, but in 12.04, it says the kvm module or kvm package is not installed, the vm will perform pooly10:57
lotuspsychjeno_gravity: after reboot or shutdown, there's an ubuntu loading screen, if pressing F1 you see txt info on the shutdown..maybe thats revealing something?10:57
compdocchroot:  sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm virt-manager10:58
compdocif you like  virt-manager10:58
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: you could try this to generate a xorg.conf file which we can edit: sudo aticonfig --initial -f10:59
chrootyeah, it have done that10:59
evvskoquit10:59
chrootbut i got some warnings when creat vm use virt-manager10:59
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lotuspsychjeThinkT510: sudo: aticonfig: command not found11:00
compdocphaidros, /etc/resolv.conf isnt a file anymore, its a link, but if you: cat /etc/resolv.conf   it should have your dns servers listed11:00
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: ah well that answers that, it must be part of the fglrx driver11:00
compdocchroot, what warnings?11:01
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: give me a few mins11:01
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: ok tnx mate11:01
chrootfrom virt-manager11:02
compdocthat tells me a lot11:03
chrootit says: Warning: kvm is not available, this may mean the kvm package not installed or kvm kernel modules is not loaded11:03
phaidroscompdoc: resolv.conf show 127.0.0.1, fine. locally dnsmasq listens and has via network-manager the local nameserver plus the vpn nameserver configured. the strange (read: wrong!) phenomenon is, that e.g. firefox is able to solve a local domain for the vpn, shell (terminal) isn't!11:04
phaidroscompdoc: so I am looking for the difference in name resolution in terminal vs. e.g. firefox11:04
phaidroscompdoc: in my reality, bash *should* use /etc/resolv.conf. but somehow doesnt11:05
phaidrosbut I am not sure of it. because dig @localhost domain.local yields nothing. tho, firefox can access http://domain.local (cache freshly emptied)11:06
compdocthe /etc/resolv.conf should have your dns server listed. at least mine does. and no loopback at all11:06
phaidroscompdoc: nope. network-manager uses dnsmasq for vpn nameservers, at least here ..11:07
phaidroscompdoc: as I read this is standard behaviour since 12.0411:08
sstacompdoc: /etc/hosts will be checked first usually11:08
phaidrosssta: what does that cahnge?11:08
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: this guys has same kinda corrupted lines11:08
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154335211:08
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: copy and paste this into a new xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169634/11:09
phaidrosok, what is the general difference between e.g. firefox and bash in a terminal in name resolution?11:09
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: then copy the xorg.conf to /etc/X11/11:10
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: then restart11:10
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: ok lemme try11:10
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: actually, come to think of it you'd better power off and then cold boot11:11
lotuspsychjeThinkT510:ok11:11
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: if this doesn't work you can delete the xorg.conf file and restart11:12
Briareos1anyone know how to load an Alternate ISO in GRUB2? the settings for Desktop variant fail if used for the Alternate one11:12
geirhaphaidros: What's the command that fails?11:12
xorox90does any one know what partition(like.. /dev/sda1 sdb)  should I install grub2 on gpt disk in ubuntu installing process?11:12
cfhowlettxorox90: depends on your setup.  single disk, single OS??11:13
geirhaphaidros: If you mean the dig-command, that has nothing to do with bash11:13
xorox90cfhowlett> i want to multi boot with win 711:13
cfhowlettxorox90: wait on GPT disk?  Hackintosh or something like that?11:13
xorox90cfhowlett> and I have a one physical disk11:13
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: ok cross your fingaz :p11:13
cfhowlettxorox90: normally, win7 single os disks are mbr not gpt.  does ubuntu SEE the windows partitions?11:14
phaidrosgeirha: there is a host in the vpn network, there is a dns server for that internal hosts, that dns server is set in dnsmasq when connecting via network-manager to the vpn. firefox can access host.vpn. shell can't. (e.g. dig host.vpn yields nothing, dig @vpnnameserverIP host.vpn works. tho firefox does seem to resolve correctly)11:14
xorox90cfhowlett> yes, in ubuntu installing process , it can see windows partiton and efi partition...11:14
cfhowlettxorox90: normally, install grub to /dev/sda11:15
xorox90cfhowlett> thx!11:15
phaidrosgeirha: so, my question is, why does that dnsmasq setup (meanwhile default) work for firefox and *not* for bash (ping, dig, ssh)11:15
cfhowlettxorox90: be safe, have fun11:15
evvskonetworking restart11:15
phaidrosgeirha: obvious workaround is to put that vpn nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf, *but* that file is generated, which doesnt make that workaround a solution.11:16
phaidrosgeirha: any ideas?11:16
lotuspsychjeThinkT510:seems like it booted normally without mouse corrupted, but ill be sure tomorrow morning11:16
aLeSD__I have a : AMD Radeon HD 6600M Series but I see that Xorg load i915 module11:17
aLeSD__so I am using Unity 2d11:17
aLeSD__why ?11:17
aLeSD__I installed the propetary drivers to11:17
geirhaphaidros: ping, dig, and ssh all do their own name resolution, bash is not involved other than execing them11:17
aLeSD__ops11:18
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: did you cold boot? or warm restart?11:18
aLeSD__I was wrong : fglrx driver is loaded : but I am running on unity 2d ... why ?11:18
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: cold boot yes11:19
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: sweet11:19
kandinskican you have a defaultdict with a factory function that's aware of thekey you were trying to access?11:19
ThinkT510!yay | lotus11:19
ubottulotus: Glad you made it! :-)11:19
phaidrosgeirha: ok. what could be a useful explanation for firefox being able to resolve via dnsmasq, shell tools cant?11:19
ThinkT510!yay | lotuspsychje11:19
ubottulotuspsychje: Glad you made it! :-)11:19
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: i hope it stays like this tomorrow11:19
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: lol tnx anyway for support11:19
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: if it does indeed work in the morning too then make sure you keep a copy of the xorg.conf11:20
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: i will, also for other systems i put ubuntu with same issue11:20
geirhaphaidros: That I do not know. Firefox appears to be the odd one out, doing some additional magic. ##networking might have some ideas.11:21
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: i'm not sure if the pcibus might need changing on other systems though11:21
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: ok, so if xorg.conf isnt default on precise, where could one check sort a like settings?11:22
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: what replaces xorg.conf?11:23
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: i don't know, ive never needed to, its all done dynamically11:23
MonkeyDust!xorgconf > lotuspsychje11:23
ubottulotuspsychje, please see my private message11:23
phaidrosgeirha: thx11:23
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: could you paste your lspci please, i'd like to check something11:23
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169647/11:24
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: ahh, thanks, see the numbers before the vga there, that tells you what the pcibus should be in xorg.conf11:25
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: ok tnx11:26
jgcampbell300i need a sub network for an experament ... can i use 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.0.1 on the same network to seperate some computers ?11:27
phaidrosgeirha: btw, chromium works as well. strnage foobar :/11:27
lotuspsychjeThinkT510:lemme try another cold boot11:27
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: no worries, i learned while helping too, so thanks to you too11:27
jgcampbell300or do i need to change the subnet on both sides11:27
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: same spirit here mate11:27
lotuspsychjebrb11:27
surtHi I've overclocked my system to 4.0ghz but linux is showing 2.67 max. This is wrong, how do I fix it please?11:28
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lotuspsychjeThinkT510: second cold boot also without problems11:30
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: ill let you know for sure tomorrow11:30
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: is that after switching off from the socket too?11:31
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: what do you mean?11:31
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: the switch plugged into the wall11:32
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: also, you got a pretty good boot time11:33
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: i sudo halt, then pressed the button to cold boot, if thats what you mean11:33
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: ssd inside on precise 64bit :p11:33
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: when you go to bed do you switch the computer off at the plug?11:33
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: no never11:34
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: sounds like a problem solved then11:35
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: always software halt, and button boot11:35
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: i really hope so :p11:35
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: got that issue for long time now, even on other versions11:35
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: all ati?11:35
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: yes11:36
szaljgcampbell300: what exactly are you up to?11:36
drag0niusanyone successfully run shellinabox on 12.04?11:37
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: if it solved by the morning ill report a bug and solve with your solution if thats ok for you11:37
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: i only recently bought a revo with ati graphics in it, no problems yet, i was rather surprised that the open source drivers supported compiz too11:37
MonkeyDustfind shellinabox11:37
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: sure11:37
MonkeyDust!find shellinabox11:37
ubottuPackage/file shellinabox does not exist in precise11:37
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: i got compiz running flawless here, wobbly windows and stuf :p11:38
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: oh, i'm practically stock unity here11:38
guntarsdisconect11:38
drag0niushttp://code.google.com/p/shellinabox/ this11:38
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: messing with ccsm can easily break unity11:39
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: got no issues here with unity and ccsm, just a reboot needed sometimes after enabling cubes or some11:39
Sidewinder1guntars, try /part11:39
Sidewinder1oops, he/she got it,. :(11:40
Slarthello, is anyone else having problems accessing ubuntu.com at the moment? It just times out for me11:40
icerootSlart: ŵorking fine here11:41
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: that old ati card cost me like 500$ back in the days, so wobbly windows isnt too much luxury lol11:41
Slarticeroot: hmm.. odd.. the rest of the internet seems to be working.. just ubuntu.com.. well well. Thanks.11:42
darkapexSlart: Fine Here too!11:42
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: ill let you know if its fixxed for good tomorrow, tnx again for your great support!11:44
lotuspsychjeout for now11:44
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: ok, have fun11:44
franco56ciao11:45
franco56!list11:46
ubottufranco56: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».11:46
BluesKajHowdy all11:49
cfhowlettBluesKaj: greetings11:50
BluesKajhi cfhowlett11:52
kandinskiso, __missing__ in defaultdicts is readonly... how can I make a defaultdict whose factory function is aware of the key that was passed on to __getitem__?11:52
cfhowlettBluesKaj: what's the happening, blueskaj??11:53
geirhakandinski: Probably better to ask that in #python ...?11:53
DragonflyHi there guys, can anybody help me with this: I have a broadcom wireless card but ubuntu treats it as an ethernet card, I cant see any wireless network here.11:55
blackshirthello11:55
blackshirtcan someone help me11:55
wicahoi11:55
cfhowlett!ask|blackshirt: greetings11:56
ubottublackshirt: greetings: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:56
cfhowlettwica: greetings11:56
kandinskigeirha: thanks :>11:56
WizardHi wica.11:56
cfhowlettDragonfly: that is the weirdest thing I've heard of on ubuntu networking...11:56
wicacfhowlett: :)11:56
cfhowlettwica: state your issue11:56
wica:)11:56
wicacfhowlett: No issue.11:56
wicaJusting hanging out11:57
wicaand maybe help somebody11:57
wicas/Justing/Just/11:57
cfhowlettwica: understood.  welcome.11:57
Dragonflycfhowlett, yes this is weird. I think that might be a problem with drivers or something but I am not sure about it.11:57
wicaDragonfly: It is a PCI device?11:58
cfhowlettDragonfly: wish I could help.  sorry, but my broadcom experience is limited to getting wifi up and running.11:59
wicaDragonfly: which type is the nic?11:59
laurent_pingoin12:00
Dragonflywica, here is lspci for network cards: 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)12:02
|FrederikIs there some change in 12.10 kernel packages which prevent them from running correctly on 12.0.4? When I boot them, network does not come up and usb keyboard does not work.12:02
Dragonflybut ifconfig shows that it is an ethernet card eth112:02
Dragonflywica, but ifconfig shows that it is an ethernet card eth112:02
fidel!ubuntu+1 > |Frederik12:02
ubottu|Frederik, please see my private message12:02
wicaDragonfly: Can you do "rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" and then reboot the computer?12:03
wicaThat file wil be recreated on boot time12:04
Dragonflywica, Its the same computer I am currently working on. I'll just give it a try and let you know after rebooting.12:04
wicaDragonfly: Thnx12:04
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cfhowlettDragonfly: love to know if this works...12:05
wicame 2, but seen strange things with udev12:05
pale3"/set awl_separator \ "12:10
wicaDragonfly has a slow computer?12:11
AleksanderHello - how can I change my GRUB2 configuration partition? I have two systems installed with GRUB2 config files, and I'd like to use Arch, not Ubuntu one, but have no idea how to change that in options12:11
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Dragonflywica: I tried removing the rules file and reboot but the problem is still there12:16
TONI_LPhola??12:16
cfhowlett!es|TONI_LP:12:16
ubottuTONI_LP:: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.12:16
TONI_LPok12:16
Dragonflywica : I tried patching the negative zero channel problem on aircrack suit a couple days ago, can it be a problem by any chance ?12:17
tdnSuddenly, the sound stopped working in XBMC. I use 2:11.0~git20120423 on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  Sound has been working just fine for months. I have tested that the sound DOES work on this machine by quitting xbmc and playing something with vlc instead. I have pastebin the debug log on http://p.adora.dk/P2499.html12:17
cfhowlettDragonfly: um, yeah, quite possibly related...12:17
georgequestion: does the regular ubuntu package allow you to not install Unity during the installation or should I go with the minimal CD?12:18
Dragonflycfhowlett : Should I just remove the wireless kernel ? is there a particular rollback method for it ? I think that has messed with a lot of modules on my system so I am a little concerned about it12:19
georgeanyone?12:19
coellobrancosaludos12:19
fidelgeorge: afaik the regular cd just installs unity - so consider using the minimal one12:19
cfhowlett!it|coellobranco:12:19
ubottucoellobranco:: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)12:19
fidelor just clean up afterwards12:19
georgefidel: alright that's what I'll do, do I lose out on anything else by using the minimal vs. the regular image?12:20
cfhowlettDragonfly: sorry, man, mixing aircrack into the mix is way over my paygrade.  Were it me, I'd clean install and start over, but then I don't have your skill set.  Ask in the channel for advice from someone with more experience12:20
georgelike will there be less packages other than the desktop not installed?12:21
cfhowlett!es|coellobranco:12:21
ubottucoellobranco:: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.12:21
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coellobrancosorry12:21
cfhowlettcoellobranco: no harm no foul12:22
fidelgeorge: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD/ describes the basics about the minimal cd12:22
Dragonflycfhowlett : No problem buddy I am removing the compat wireless kernel now. lets see if that help.12:22
fidelminimal cds main target in my eyes is offering a small install image12:22
fidelwhile alternate-iso's main focus is offering a small core-install12:22
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Picifidel: the alternate CD installs the same software as the desktop cd.12:23
Dragonflycfhowlett : I have one more problem here, all of a sudden the fan of my laptop has stopped working. Its been a couple days now I am looking for a solution. Do you have any idea ?12:23
KotakReplace the fan?12:23
fidelPici: yes - but you have to select packages as far as i know12:23
Dragonflykotak : Did you respond to me ?12:24
Kotakyeah :)12:24
cfhowlettDragonfly: cleaning out of the vents usually works magic.  also, opening up the casing and dropping a few drops of lube on the main screw is similarly magical12:24
fidelPici: which means: you end up with a setup without desktop if you dont select thi corresponding category while install or install it manually12:24
Picifidel: I haven't done an alternate install in a while, but last time I did, it didn't prompt me for package selection.12:25
Dragonflykotak : Thank for the suggestion but I really dont want to change it or I'd have done it.12:25
Dragonflycfhowlett : Ok thanks, I'll try that too.12:25
fidelPici: same here - havent used it for the last 2 years myself ;)12:25
cfhowlettDragonfly: good luck.12:25
Dragonflycfhowlett : Thanks :)12:25
fidelthats why i pointed him to the official ubuntu docs regarding the minimal cd aswell12:25
Dragonflycfhowlett : Hey that did the trick :) I removed the wireless kernel and my card is again a wireless card now :)12:28
jgcampbell300need a bit of assistance ... Failed to bring up eth0. its on ubuntu server eht0 i am trying to run maas-dhcp ... i changed the /etc/network/interfaces to static ... any suggestinos12:29
Dragonflycfhowlett : Now the fan issue. here is something BTW. Do you think messing with Apparmor can cause that Fan failure ?12:29
bidadieuhi,everyone, i have a question ,can you help me ?12:30
bidadieuplease .12:31
Dragonflycfhowlett : Can I just rename the network interface ? I mean my wireless card name is eth1 in ifconfig, I want it to be wlan0 ? any tip ?12:31
cfhowlettDragonfly: congrats on solving it.  regarding the fan: that's hardware.  Seriously can't see how app armor in any configuration could effect fan settings.  But I'd bet $ you, like most of us, have NEVER cleaned out the vents or lubed the fan.  So...12:31
wicaDragonfly: did it help?12:31
cfhowlett!ask|bidadieu:12:31
ubottubidadieu:: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:31
Dragonflywica : I removed the wireless kernel and it worked out fine :)12:31
cfhowlettDragonfly: don't know if I'd do that.  The default id's usually work best...12:31
wicaDragonfly: ok12:31
bidadieui came across a word :"forever i'll bid adieu",can you tell me what does it mean?12:32
wicastrange12:32
cfhowlettbidadieu: you're asking in the wrong channel.  See if there's a #poetry out there.  this is #ubuntu support.12:32
Dragonflycfhowlett : Default was wlan0 before I installed the wireless kernel, after installation it just got vanished and renamed to eth1. Now I want it back to wlan0.12:33
Sidewinder1bidadieu, adieu is similiar to good bye.12:33
Dragonflywica : do you have any idea about renaming the network interface ?12:34
cfhowlettDragonfly: not something I can add any meaningful advice to.  Sorry.12:34
DragonflyI want to rename eth1 back to wlan0 ?12:34
Dragonflycfhowlett : No problem, I'll try to find another way12:34
Dragonflycfhowlett : Thank you for the help :)12:35
cfhowlettDrag0nir: best of luck.12:35
cfhowlettDragonfly: best of luck12:35
Wiz_KeeDhey guys12:39
Wiz_KeeDhow do i connect to a remote ftp address and navigate around and crete files and such?12:39
DragonflyWiz_KeeD : you can give Filezilla a try\12:41
Wiz_KeeDi was thinkking maybe using a terminal or such but12:41
Dragonflyhit ftp <ip-address> in terminal and away you go :)12:41
Wiz_KeeDi tried it didn't work :))12:41
Dragonflydo you have the FTP package installed ?12:42
DragonflyWiz_KeeD : install it by sudo apt-get install ftp12:42
py_canI'm missing 3gb RAM out of 6gb in total! Halp!12:42
py_canwhere did it go to?12:43
Dragonflypy_can : are you running a 32 bit or 64 bit distro ?12:43
py_canDragonfly: 6412:43
py_canDragonfly: windows detects 6gb. Ubuntu 3.212:44
Wiz_KeeDwhy's that py_can ?12:44
Dragonflypy_can : 64 bit should correctly detect the RAM12:45
py_canWiz_KeeD, The mozilla monster ate my ram ? i dont know?12:45
py_canDragonfly: yes, yet its not ;(12:45
Wiz_KeeDi mean why it detects only 3.212:45
py_cani dont know, thats why i came here12:45
Dragonflypy_can : can you paste the output of 'uname -r' ?12:46
py_canDragonfly: 3.2.0-23-generic12:46
Dragonflyok, hit 'sudo apt-get install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae'12:47
Wiz_KeeDwhat does that do? :D12:47
py_canok Dragonfly12:48
DragonflyI have generic-pie and it detect all of the 6 GB RAM on my 32 BIT machine12:48
krababbelWhat is a quick way to compare two directory trees if the files have the same size and name?12:49
krababbeldiff seems very slow12:49
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py_canDragonfly: http://pastebin.com/9Z2LRVif12:50
Slartkrababbel: diff on the outout of ls?12:50
krababbelSlart: thanks, will try that12:50
Slartkrababbel: you might have to add some switches to ls to just get the names and sizes.. creation dates and such might not be interesting12:51
Slartkrababbel: http://superuser.com/questions/228763/how-to-diff-file-names-in-two-directories-without-writing-to-intermediate-files12:51
Dragonflypy_can can you try "sudo apt-get -f install" ?12:51
py_canDragonfly: looks like i got 300 updates pending, ill install them first12:52
Dragonflypy_can : after that upgrade the kernel and let us know if it detects the RAM fine. PAE should work out for upto 64GB ram12:52
LostMonkis there a way to use a verbose startup rather than the graphic?12:53
py_canDragonfly: allright12:53
DragonflyLostMonk : You can press up or down arrow key on boot when it shows the boot screen12:54
LostMonkno way to do it automatically?12:54
DragonflyLostMonk : that will switch between verbose and graphical mode12:54
LostMonkah ok12:54
LostMonkthanks12:54
vividrealityI am looking for an alternative to Notepad++, is gedit nice?12:56
kevin_vividreality: i use gedit. works alright12:57
vividrealityThanks.12:57
Slartvividreality: I don't really think there is anything comparable to notepad++... there is the gnome version of vim if you are willing to take the time to learn it12:57
krababbelSlart: thanks again12:57
Slartkrababbel: you're welcome12:57
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steven_hello12:58
vividrealitySlart, what is there to learn? I just want syntax highlighting, that' s all12:58
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gordonjcpvividreality: gedit will do syntax highlighting12:58
gordonjcpvividreality: geany does, too12:58
vividrealityGreat.12:58
Slartvividreality: if it's just syntax highlighting then gedit will do fine12:58
steven_vim id good12:58
gordonjcpthe actual component that does all the clever stuff is gtksourceview so if you look at that you can see what languages are supported12:58
vividrealityOkay thanks you guys.12:59
steven_is there has good game in ubuntu?12:59
WizardLots.12:59
gordonjcpvividreality: just as a matter of interest, which languages are you looking for highlighting for?12:59
Wizard!best13:00
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.13:00
Dragonflysteven_ : Dont know about good games but playOnLinux is there for you :)13:00
IBM1424#ubuntu-hams13:00
steven_yep13:00
Slartsteven_: http://www.happypenguin.org/ is a good site for gaming on linux13:00
vividrealitygordonjcp, any C language, Lua is very important to me, and things like xml, yaml, etc.13:01
steven_thank you13:01
vividrealityOh and check out Desura, steven.13:01
Dragonflysteven_ That looks grean, will definitely check it out later.13:02
CaptObviousI'm having an issue with start-stop-daemon.  I'm wanting to launch a command with commandline options, but start-stop-daemon is interpreting the options as options for itself rather than the program I'm trying to launch with it.  how do I fix this?13:02
caB00THello, I can't open insight, says it's not found, I get an error when I try to apt-get it, and I don't find it at all on Ubuntu Software Center... :\13:03
steven_aha ,desura is good13:04
michaelxqwhere can i ask for Androit Ubuntu?13:04
steven_ i like13:04
WizardKotBehemot: :/13:05
WizardKotBehemot: ping13:05
caB00THey guys, I can't seem to open Insight, a debugger that's suppose to be preintalled... Everywhere? Anyway, says it's not found when opened from terminal, does not want to install via apt-get and can't find it at all on Ub Software Center?13:05
HAMKootmichaelxq, ubuntu on android isn't ready yet >> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android13:06
fidel!info insight13:06
ubottuPackage insight does not exist in precise13:06
fidelcaB00T: what package in particular are you talking about?13:06
caB00TOh crap...13:06
michaelxqHAMKoot: do we know when is going to be ready?13:06
caB00TInsight, the debugger.13:06
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HAMKootmich-ds2_, dunno, how about filling in your email on that page ?13:07
fidelcaB00T: well then there is no package with that name in 12.0413:07
HAMKootsorry, mich-ds2_ >> michaelxq13:07
caB00T:\ Learning assembly is fun... More time wasted on this kind of crap then on anything else... :\13:07
caB00TThank you for feedback anyway, found some reading online ab it.13:08
lienucksfails2my browsing is extremely slow in ubuntu and ubuntu based distros but downloads are fast i have tried changing dns still same problem13:09
fidellienucksfails2: are you refering to general browsing or flash/similar content?13:09
PicicaB00T: It looks like it was removed from Debian (and then Ubuntu) in 2010, details here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=56657913:09
ubottuDebian bug 566579 in ftp.debian.org "RM: insight -- RoQA; Insane packaging; unmaintained; low popcon" [Normal,Open]13:09
lienucksfails2general browsing website does not load13:09
fidellienucksfails2: slow or not loading?13:10
lienucksfails2not loading slow13:10
lienucksfails2depends on website13:10
fidellienucksfails2: not loading != slow13:10
lienucksfails2google is loading13:10
lienucksfails2www.goal.com/en not loading13:10
caB00TYes, thank you Pici, I am reading that article.13:10
caB00TA bummer...13:10
HAMKootlienucksfails2, i had that problem too, i disabled IPv6 and that speeds up13:10
HAMKoot!ipv613:10
ubottuFor an introduction to IPv6 and information on tunneling IPv6 through IPv4 connections, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6 | To disable IPv6 see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv413:10
lienucksfails2yaa i have ipv8 disabled too in firefox13:11
michaelxqHAMKoot: thank you very much for your help13:11
lienucksfails2ipv613:11
rgmsIs there something wrong with ubuntu.com? Can't seem to access it, but http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ tells me it's up13:11
lienucksfails2nothing wrong with ubuntu.com its loaduing fine13:11
michaelxqrgms: same here13:12
lienucksfails2www.piratebay.se is is alson ot loading for me13:12
IBM1424rgms: it is working for me13:12
HAMKootlienucksfails2, piratebay is offtopic, you know why.13:12
lienucksfails2www.distrowatch.com not loading13:13
rgmsso it's a load balancer issue or something?13:13
lienucksfails2bleacherreport13:13
vinod_Yo13:13
lienucksfails2am having this problem in 12.03.1 also13:13
rgmsmichaelxq, where are you from?13:13
rgmsI'm from Finland13:14
lienucksfails212.04.113:14
michaelxqrgms: cyprus13:14
vinod_can any1 temme what can be used as pagemaker in ubuntu13:14
rgmslienucksfails2, where are you from? If I may ask.13:14
lienucksfails2am from india13:14
rgmshmm..13:14
vickyis there any app to lock folders?13:14
IBM1424vicky: good question13:15
IBM1424?13:15
lienucksfails2i tried xubuntu 12.04 lubuntu 12.04 same problem in all just cannot browse man13:15
smyaHello. I formated my system and installed 12.04. Now am unable to download or install anything from net. I am getting the following error.13:15
Slartrgms: sweden here, ubuntu.com not working for me.. actually none of the *.ubuntu.com servers are working here13:15
smyamake[2]: *** [/usr/local/bin/ztemtApp/zteusbserial/below2.6.27/usb-serial.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [_module_/usr/local/bin/ztemtApp/zteusbserial/below2.6.27] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-29-generic-pae' make: *** [modules] Error 2 dpkg: error processing crossplatformui (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing:  13:15
k1llienucksfails2: maybe just a routing problem from you ISP13:15
skpl^lienucksfails2: try killing yourself.13:15
lienucksfails2i thought google dns would solve the problem but err fail13:15
smyaCan you pls help me13:16
lienucksfails2i have tried debian based distro like siduction and aptosid it is working fine windows also no problem so i cannot blame my isp13:16
vickycan u please tell the app name to lock folder?13:16
geirhavicky: lock folder? for what purpose?13:17
krababbelHi, I accidentally formatted an ext4 partition to ntfs. Can I recover the files?13:17
vinod_can any1 temme what can be used as pagemaker in ubuntu13:17
k1lvicky: you mean encryption?13:17
lienucksfails2i called my isp they say to get help from ubuntu my line is fine13:17
vickyto avoid others to view / access that folder13:17
k1lvicky: then just set the rights to only your account13:18
philvicky: you mean remotely, when someone accesses your machine?13:18
lienucksfails2could this be a kernel issue13:18
smyaJust to make it clear, I have pasted the error here. http://pastebin.com/z56S4eUq  pls help me.13:18
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philvicky: this is just standard folder permission set up .... sudo chown <numbers> <folder_name>13:19
vickyno my account can be used by many others13:19
philvicky: aaah, and creating accounts for others is not possible?13:19
vickyno..13:20
k1lvicky: then try encryption13:20
philvicky: or you can create one account for all the others ...13:20
rgmsSlart, *.ubuntu.com not working for me either, also launchpad.net13:20
lienucksfails2fucking noob community RIP13:20
philvicky: sorry, maybe silly but we are trying the easiest possible solution first13:20
jgcampbell300i need some help ... i installed maas-dhcp and it changed my dns up on the server i cant apt-get update now ... i can ping ip addresses on the net but cant ping www.whatever.com ... any ideas13:21
vicky@ phil. ok13:21
lousygaruaIn gnome3 when you click the meta key and type a few letters, e.g. 'fir' for 'firefox', and then hit return - it will switch to the existing firefox window instead of opening a new one. Is it possible to do so on unity as well? 12.0413:21
kevin_jgcampbell300: edit /etc/resolv.conf13:22
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BalthaTczarcould someone explain me, i've installed MAME and am trying to copy roms to usr/local/share/games/mame/roms13:23
BalthaTczarbut permission is denied13:23
intentdoes anybody use shazam?13:23
BalthaTczarhow can i change this and have permission to copy ?13:24
trapnihey, I just did `apt-get source openssh-server` to get the sources of it, patched it with the LDAP-ssh-publickey patch, and now would like to rebuild it as a .deb file, but can't find a way to do so? any ideas?13:24
kevin_BalthaTczar: look at the permissions necessary to put files in that directory. you might need to be in a 'games' group or such.13:24
rootalex5013:25
zykotick9!checkinstall | trapni "cheap" option13:25
ubottutrapni "cheap" option: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!13:25
BalthaTczarkevin_, it says root is the owner and i am not owner so i cannot change permissions13:25
lotuspsychjeThinkT510: didnt work mate :p, time waiting cold boot and square mouse is back13:25
kevin_BalthaTczar: what about the group?13:26
ThinkT510lotuspsychje: oh13:26
BalthaTczarkevin_, group is staff13:26
kevin_BalthaTczar: that's a weird group. well you can use 'sudo' to perform commands as root.13:26
BalthaTczarkevin_, ah right you also know how i can terminate an application ?13:28
BalthaTczaryou know by terminating the process13:29
kevin_BalthaTczar: check out kill, pkill, or xkill13:29
kevin_BalthaTczar: kill is for a process id, pkill is for a process name, and xkill is for a process which has a window open in x13:29
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shock-phoneHello13:30
jgcampbell300i need some help ... i installed maas-dhcp and it changed my dns up on the server i cant apt-get update now ... i can ping ip addresses on the net but cant ping www.whatever.com ... any ideas13:31
kevin_jgcampbell300: edit /etc/resolv.conf13:32
jgcampbell300kevin: thanks man13:32
lotuspsychjehowto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot in precise on ati card?13:33
kevin_going to work. bye.13:34
BalthaTczaris there also a way to keep track of progress when copying a bunch of files ?13:35
BalthaTczarin the terminal i mean13:35
Ownertrack progress?13:35
BalthaTczaryeah how many files are copied13:35
Owner-v13:36
k1lBalthaTczar: cp -v13:36
BalthaTczarthanks13:36
BalthaTczartoo late now though13:36
IBM1234is there any that is good at reading scripts?13:36
IBM1234is there any person that is good at reading scripts?13:36
OwnerIBM1234~# i did shakespear in highschool13:36
IBM1234ll!13:37
* Owner bows13:37
IBM1234funny but not light that13:37
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smartboyhwExcuse me all: Is there anyway to install unity in Xubuntu?13:37
kubancis there any similar like filezilla server for Ubuntu?13:37
Ownerwhat script13:37
IBM1234I have a firewall script someone wrote for me but I want to get it a second look13:37
fidelsmartboyhw: why shouldnt it? its a package13:38
Ownerkubanc~# with a gui?  not sure13:38
k1lsmartboyhw: insatll "ubuntu-desktop"13:38
kubancOwner, is there anything that i can configure fast?13:38
smartboyhwOK13:38
Ownerkubanc~# there is vsftpd and proftpd for example...you dont really need a gui, but im sure there are some out there for those daemons13:39
Pici!ftpd | kubanc13:39
ubottukubanc: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP13:39
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lotuspsychjehowto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot in precise on ati card?13:41
danymariusicahy girls13:42
danymariusica:X13:42
IBM1234Owner: Thank you for reading the script13:45
Alpha-Omegawhats the difference between kubuntu desktop and kubuntu full on the minimal cd?13:45
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Alpha-Omegaanyone?13:47
bobweaverAlpha-Omega,  you mean kubuntu-desktop and kde-workspace ?13:47
Alpha-Omegabobweaver it only shows kubuntu desktop and kubuntu full on minimal cd13:47
IBM1234How can I get a script file to run automatically everytime I turn on my computer?13:47
IBM1234Anyone?13:48
bobweaverAlpha-Omega,  not sure13:48
Alpha-OmegaIbm1234 put it in your .bash13:48
Alpha-Omegaor .bashrc13:48
bobweaverIBM1234,  put it in rc13:48
deadmundIBM1234: use update-rc13:48
fidelIBM1234: is cron @reboot an option?13:48
deadmundIBM1234: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-manage-services-with-update-rc.d13:49
IBM1234sorry Iam very Elementary to this... what do you mena by put in you .bash?13:49
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Alpha-Omegaibm1234 in ur home directory there is a .bash or .bashrc file13:49
Alpha-Omegaforgot which it is13:50
Alpha-Omegajust do ls -a ull see it13:50
geirhaAlpha-Omega, IBM1234: That won't run it at boot.13:50
IBM1234let me check13:50
Alpha-Omegageirha well itll load when he logs in13:50
Alpha-Omegai guess ure right13:51
fidelIBM1234: try to point out if you are really talking about 'on boot' or on 'user-login' or something else ;)13:51
geirhaAlpha-Omega: Only if he logs in at the console or via ssh13:51
bobweaverIBM1234,  put in RC.whatever  or make into a service (/etc/init.d/)13:51
ubuntu_noobhello... I'm really kind of new at this... i was wondering if anybody could shed some light for me.  I opened my Disk Usage Analyzer and it says "Total filesystem capacity: 70.3 GB (used 45.2 GB available: 25.1 GB)" But under my folders, my root says the size is only 5 GB.... am I missing something here?13:51
geirhaAlpha-Omega: Plus it will be run every time he opens a terminal13:51
Alpha-Omegageirha no even if he logs in regularly i thin its .bashrc itll run13:51
Alpha-Omegayep ure right about that13:51
craigbass1976is wine still the only way ot run itunes?13:52
IBM1234I would like on boot if not every time a user logs in... it is for a firewall13:52
Alpha-Omegaim kind of new so u guys help :)13:52
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deadmundcraigbass1976: Yes.  Until apple open sources itunes13:52
lotuspsychjeubuntu_noob:unfoald + on the folders to see content13:52
deadmundcraigbass1976: or, I supposed, re-writes a linux version!13:53
craigbass1976deadmund, maybe if we all hold our breath together...13:53
deadmundcraigbass1976: maybe just use a different music player? :P13:53
geirhacraigbass1976. deadmund: Oh, itunes works with wine now?13:53
lotuspsychjeubuntu_noob: you can also install ubuntu tweak to clean up your system from unwanted files13:53
deadmundgeirha: I used it once several years ago, it 'worked'13:53
ubuntu_nooblotuspsychje: / shows 5 gb, the largest subdir is /usr which is 3 gb, next is /var which is 1.1 gb. on a fresh install, even with a heavy theme, it shouldn't be this much should it? and I still dont know why it says I've used 45.2 gb13:54
rigohi13:54
ubuntu_noobdo you know the apt for ubuntu tweak?13:54
kubanci've installed vsftpd. what's the default username and password to login?13:55
lotuspsychjeubuntu_noob: you sure you using the full had partitioning? check for sure with gparted13:55
rigothe remote desktop is still gray with only the big black X cursor.13:55
IBM1234thank you13:55
lotuspsychje!info gparted | ubuntu_noob13:55
ubottuubuntu_noob: gparted (source: gparted): GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.11.0-2 (precise), package size 530 kB, installed size 1872 kB13:55
rigoi installed X11 xrdp13:55
zludeHello! I'm running samba + ldap like a AD but i wanna know how to disable profile saving? someone can help me?13:55
lotuspsychjeubuntu_noob: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/13:55
craigbass1976kubanc, Isn't it regular users?  I haven't done it in a while...13:56
ubuntu_nooblotuspsychje: thanks, I'll give it a try13:56
rgmsSlart, you woudln't happen to have TeliaSonera as your ISP?13:56
rigoso the connection is OK. grey pixel background and the X but no x environment no "start menu" nothing.13:57
Slartrgms: nope, bahnhof13:58
Slartrgms: but it might be going through some telia lines on the way.. sweden is telia-land after all =)13:58
lotuspsychjekeep ontopic guys13:59
IBM1234If I Place a script file into ...etc/init.d/        and then do an update will this cause that script to run as a service everytime the computer turns on?13:59
Slartlotuspsychje: talking to me and rgms? we're trying to figure out why ubuntu.com isn't working for some users14:00
rigosomeone said here that this is b ecause of the corporate network what i use. and because of proxy. but no.14:00
IBM1234If I Place a script file into ...etc/init.d/        and then do an update will this cause that script to run as a service everytime the computer turns on?14:01
yeatsIBM1234: you might benefit from reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto14:01
IBM1234yeats thank you!!!14:01
Sidewinder1IBM1234, If no one answers here, perhaps in #bash,.?14:01
beluga_is launchpad.net down? when I try downforeveryoneorjustme.com it says: "It's just you. http://launchpad.net is up." But it's really down for me14:02
zludei need help with samba like a PDC. i wanna know how to disable users profile saving in pdc. someone can help me?14:02
IBM1234thank you sidewinder1. I am new to IRC and so not sure relay were to go14:02
Slartbeluga_: it's happening for other people as well.. I'm one of them14:02
Sidewinder1Welcome. Please enjoy the ride. ;-)14:03
beluga_Slart: thanks14:03
Sidewinder1IBM1234, You might also want to have a look here: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml14:04
jgcampbell300ok another newb question comeing at ya ... i edited /etc/resolv.conf ... now how do i reload it14:05
rigoit was a pleasure to talk with you :D14:06
deadmundjgcampbell300: That file is live all the time.  Most of the edits are active immediately.  What did you change in their specifically?14:08
Animanerasalve14:08
Animaneralista!14:09
Animaneraciao14:09
Pici!it | Animanera14:09
ubottuAnimanera: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)14:09
krababbelW4sp: I rebooted, and while it did load xdm, there was graphical corruption.14:10
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JoshuaPI installed Ubuntu and later found out that I typo'd my username. Can I change this?14:11
Sidewinder1!pm > IBM123414:13
ubottuIBM1234, please see my private message14:13
saviohello everyone14:14
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ubottusubz3r0, please see my private message14:17
WeThePeoplehi14:19
Sidewinder1!ot > IBM123414:20
ubottuIBM1234, please see my private message14:20
kitty_please help me create a limited user account in ubuntu 12.0414:22
JoshuaPkitty_, limited how?14:23
F1CCCBjr a tous !! Je suis nouveau ici et un peut perdu !!!  aie aie14:24
lotuspsychje!fr | F1CCC14:24
ubottuF1CCC: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.14:24
kitty_JoshuaP__, hi. i need to create a new user that must prompt for the root password everytime the SUDO command is used.14:25
kitty_JoshuaP__, please help.14:25
F1CCCok merci pour l'info bien noté14:25
Sidewinder1!bot | IBM123414:25
ubottuIBM1234: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots14:25
Sidewinder1IBM1234, I hope that helps. ;-)14:26
JoshuaPkitty_, why don't you just deny sudo access to the user?14:26
Raydiationdoes enigmail (thunderbird plugin) also encrypt attachements like pdfs when you activate encryption?14:27
JoshuaPkitty_, if the user knows the root password, but can't use sudo, there is no point in even trying to bypass the userpassword.14:27
kitty_JoshuaP__, i am absolutely new to linux. can you please guide me  how can i do that?14:27
erik49_anyone know how to view/manage all active remote desktop (xrdp) sessions?14:28
JoshuaPkitty_, when you add the user, make sure that user is without the group called "sudo"14:28
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erik49_or just how to get remmina to resume instead of starting new sessions \=14:28
kitty_JoshuaP__, can you guide me how to do it the command-line way please?14:28
JoshuaPerik49_, What do you mean?14:29
lotuspsychjekitty_: man chmod14:29
kitty_JoshuaP__, i know i have to use adduser command. but not any more.14:29
JoshuaPkitty_, when you open the terminal, type adduser.14:29
kitty_JoshuaP__, done14:29
JoshuaPIt will ask you for user credentials.14:30
kitty_JoshuaP__, adduser kitty14:30
JoshuaPType all of that in, but when you come up to groups, for primary group, type "users" so the user is in the group "users".14:30
jwhisnantI am using 12.04 and bash seems to send the character 'x' to nowhere; it seems to be a user problem (created a test user, and it works ok)14:31
JoshuaPFor secondary group(s), you don't have to put anything.14:31
Ownerwhat is the source of all the worlds suckage14:31
jwhisnantAny ideas as to where to look for the problem, or the easiest way to set all the bash options to a sane default?14:32
JoshuaPkitty_, then the user is without use of the sudo command and if they try to sudo, the user will be reported by the system and denied access for use of the sudo command.14:32
Ownerwoops wrong channel14:32
JoshuaPOwner, ya think?14:32
|Anthony|i installed fedora in a separate partition last night, and now i'd like to uninstall it. During the install, it obviously installed it's own grub. What do i need to do to get get it back to the reliable ubuntu set up?14:33
JoshuaPjwhisnant, what do you mean when you say bash sends 'x' nowhere?14:33
JoshuaP|Anthony|, Do you have ubuntu on a partition?14:33
|Anthony|indeed JoshuaP14:34
|Anthony|in a primary no less14:34
|Anthony|just reinstall GRUB from ubuntu?14:34
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JoshuaP|Anthony|, well which grub is in /boot?14:34
|Anthony|JoshuaP, they have there own /boot. It's bad to have different distros share /boot14:35
|Anthony|i learned that the hard way14:35
JoshuaP|Anthony|, which grub loads first?14:36
drag0niuswhat was iptables entries file location?14:40
jwhisnantJoshuaP: I mean gooduser (echo 'xyz' --> xyz), baduser (echo 'yz' --> yz) - baduser typed the x, wasnt echoed; seen in konsole (desktop) and ssh connection; I am using virtualbox, in case the problem might somehow be there for the "default" user14:40
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Alpha-OmegaI just accidently added a master boot record to a hard drive that only had files on it, it was for storage, now when I do sudo fdisk -l, it doesn't show up, did I destroy it or something?14:42
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Alpha-Omegathe ubuntu install asked me to add to the hard drive and it ended up adding the master boot record to my hard drive that had only files on it14:42
JoshuaPjwhisnant, I've known of KDE having problems with the first user. I've always had to create another user and delete the first.14:43
lotuspsychje!info testdisk | Alpha-Omega14:43
ubottuAlpha-Omega: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.13-1 (precise), package size 516 kB, installed size 1209 kB14:43
Alpha-OmegaI knew I should've unpligged it :(14:43
kubancwhere do i change port for 89.212.44.7414:44
jwhisnantJoshuaP: ah - I am using KDE, so maybe that is my problem, thanks14:44
JoshuaPdrag0nius, /etc/bash_completion.d/iptables14:44
kubancwhere do i change port for vsftpd14:44
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Alpha-Omegait's not showing up in testdisk14:44
JoshuaPjwhisnant, :)14:45
lotuspsychjeAlpha-Omega: you can fix mbr with testdisk14:45
|Anthony|a simple grub-install /dev/sda did it for me14:45
|Anthony|good. no more fedora14:45
Alpha-Omegalotuspsychje: but if the drive isn't showing up in testdisk14:45
Alpha-Omegaeven though it's plugged in?14:45
JoshuaPkubanc, what port are you trying to open?14:46
lotuspsychjeAlpha-Omega: thats odd indeed, is it ntfs?14:46
Alpha-Omegalotuspsychje: yes it is14:46
Guest11215I do have a serious issue. When booting to LiveCD environment desktop, I can use everything (free radeon drivers too, which give me gaming power for assault cube fluidly at fixed 60fps - HD6850) but after installation, it boots into a blank screen. I see background light on screen is on, but only see a very grey-blue like colored screen without any pointers and other desktop objects :/14:46
lotuspsychje!ntfs | Alpha-Omega14:46
ubottuAlpha-Omega: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE14:46
mneptokkubanc: are you using FTP because you need anonymous access?14:46
hq_hello14:46
ppathello14:46
hq_nice to meet you14:46
lotuspsychjeAlpha-Omega: you installed ntfs-3g?14:46
JoshuaP|Anthony|, is it just no fedora boot option, or is fedora completely gone? You could check and clear that with GParted14:46
Alpha-Omegaand ubuntu decided to add the mbr to that drive as default instead of the one I had root installed to lol14:47
SlendertronOk, I need assistance adding a new screen resolution.14:47
Alpha-Omegalotuspsychje: that might just do it :P14:47
|Anthony|JoshuaP, already done14:47
|Anthony|;-)14:47
SlendertronThere is no xorg.conf14:47
SlendertronAnd xrandr can't determine screen gamma14:47
Alpha-Omegalotuspsychje: it says ntfs-3g is the newest14:47
|Anthony|good ridden14:47
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JoshuaPkubanc, you can open the port with the route settings.14:48
* mneptok whispers "riddance"14:48
JoshuaPkubanc, With vsftpd, being sftp, I'd probably open up the SSH port, 22.14:48
mneptokkubanc: you really should not be using FTP unless you *have* to have anonymous access.14:48
JoshuaP|Anthony|, well done.14:48
mneptokJoshuaP: vsftpd is FTP.14:48
lotuspsychjeAlpha-Omega: try ntfs from software centre14:48
|Anthony|lol14:48
Alpha-Omegalotuspsychje: so fdisk wouldn't recognize it if I don't have this installed? let me try it14:49
|Anthony|JoshuaP, only reason i'm testing it is for the multiseat functionality14:49
|Anthony|but if i could get the same net result with ubuntu i'd be a happy boy14:49
Alpha-Omegalotuspsychje: I'm on kde, there's nothing called ntfs in muon14:49
albechdoes evolution mail client support imap tagging, similar to what thunderbird does, when setting the imap flags?14:50
JoshuaPalbech, I think so.14:50
s0ck3tsorg14:50
Alpha-Omegacould writing an mbr to a drive that's formatted with a partition of ntfs destroy it?14:51
krababbelAlpha-Omega: try using testdisk and see14:51
lotuspsychje!info ntfs-config | Alpha-Omega14:51
ubottuAlpha-Omega: ntfs-config (source: ntfs-config): Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-10 (precise), package size 95 kB, installed size 776 kB (Only available for linux-any)14:51
Alpha-Omegakrababbel: I said before, doesn't show up in testdisk14:51
myrmidettehello, is there any way to pipe output from a program that is already being executed (preferably without pausing it)?14:51
lotuspsychjeAlpha-Omega: enable auto boot for ntfs and try a reboot14:51
krababbelAlpha-Omega: does the disk itself show up?14:52
albechJoshuaP, just a little strage.. it seems like evolution is loading the flags i set in thunderbird, but it is storing changes locally somehow14:52
Alpha-Omegakrababbel: no, doesn't show up in fdisk -l, nor anywhere else14:52
meowmixhello i shutdown linux without properly unmounting my windows harddrive14:52
mneptokAlpha-Omega: the MBR is discrete from anything in the partition table.14:52
meowmixand now windows will not start14:52
meowmixwhat is the easiest way to fix my windows boot14:52
mneptokAlpha-Omega: ls /dev/sd*14:52
lotuspsychjemeowmix:loose the windows :p14:53
mneptokmeowmix: ##windows may be more helpful14:53
bohemcan some one help me with vsftpd? can I restrict some users to only some directories (I don't mean restrict access only to "home directory")?14:53
meowmixdamn14:53
meowmixyou guys are retarded today14:53
meowmixall the smart people must be getting coffee -.-14:54
mneptokmeowmix: pejoratives are unwelcome14:54
Daghdha_sweettalker huh14:54
Wizard!best14:54
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.14:54
meowmixeasiest14:54
meowmixfewest steps14:54
meowmixnubs14:54
mneptokmeowmix: stop with the epithets.14:54
kubancwhere do i disable public view in vsftp14:54
mneptokah well.14:55
Alpha-Omegamneptok: /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda4  /dev/sda514:55
* mneptok wonders if all these people coming from Windows understand that SFTP IS BUILT-IN AND IS SECURE14:55
evvskohi14:55
mneptokAlpha-Omega: is that other disk a SATA device?14:55
Alpha-Omegamneptok: yes14:55
lotuspsychjekubanc: try #vsftpd they might know all about14:56
mneptokAlpha-Omega: does it have eco-friendly hardware controllers that reduce power when not in use?14:56
WizardLOL14:56
WizardEco friendly.. LOLOLOL.14:56
lotuspsychje:p14:56
Alpha-Omegajust before I installed kubuntu, the drive worked fine, I accidently wrote the mbr to this other drive because thats what it defaulted to and I didn't understand wording, I had to go into rescue mode and write grub to this hard drive im on now14:57
Alpha-Omegaand boom this drive isnt being detected14:57
Alpha-Omegamneptok: don't think so14:57
mneptokAlpha-Omega: if the drive has dropped to a low power consumption mode, it may not be visible.14:57
SDIguten tag alle14:57
lotuspsychjeAlpha-Omega: pastebin your etc/fstab in channel mate, so we can take a look14:57
fidel!de > SDI14:57
ubottuSDI, please see my private message14:57
jgcampbell300I could use a bit of help ... i cant seem to get my eth0 to come up .. eth1 works fine .. but trying to set eth0 to static on my server and run a dhcp on the server just for eth0 and not eth1 ... is there a special way to set up /etc/network/interfaces to make this happen ?14:57
SDIthx danke14:58
Alpha-Omegalotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169982/14:58
fideljgcampbell300: was there any lately hardware change on that box (eth)?14:58
mneptokAlpha-Omega: have you powered-off and reseated all the connectors for that drive?14:58
Alpha-Omegamneptok: you mean trying to unplug and plug back in, yeah I tried it14:59
lotuspsychjeAlpha-Omega:wich is the drive thats doesnt show anymore?14:59
mneptokAlpha-Omega: tried different cables? different port on the motherboard?14:59
Alpha-Omegai'm about ready to check in the BIOS if it's detected, but it is spinning so it seems to be working14:59
gmachine_24I cloned a partition using Clonezilla and need to generate a new UUID for the second hard drive; how do I do this?15:00
Alpha-Omegalotuspsychje: it's a drive with just files on it15:00
Alpha-Omegait's 1 TB15:00
jgcampbell300fidel: no it is close to a fresh build ... only thing i have installed is maas and maas-dhcp ... along with changes to interfaces file for static to public nic15:00
Alpha-Omegait's my storage15:00
lotuspsychjeAlpha-Omega:is it showing in fstab?15:00
Alpha-Omegalotuspsychje: nope, the other two partitions are my windows partition for windows install15:01
Lukas1321losoli15:01
Lukas1321oh sorry15:01
Alpha-Omegamaybe I should try restarting into Windows, see if I have luck in there?15:01
Lukas1321wrong chatroom15:01
fideljgcampbell300: ok - i was just thinking about persistent-net.rules by udev - but that would usually come as a result of changed hardware15:01
lotuspsychjeAlpha-Omega:did you use pysdm in the past?15:01
fidelwas just a random first idea - so skip it ;)15:01
Alpha-Omegalotuspsychje: haven't even heard of it15:01
jgcampbell300fidel: its running 10/100 eth1 and 10/100/1000 eth0 ... hmm gona check something15:02
Alpha-Omegalet me check in windows, see if I can see the drive15:02
Alpha-Omegabrb15:02
BipulCan any one tell me difference between Self Respect and Ego ?15:03
lotuspsychje!ot | Bipul15:03
ubottuBipul: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:03
jgcampbell300tryed lshw -C network ... eveything there looks right ... hmm15:04
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Alpha-Omegaalright, well I restarted into Windows and the drive came up fine15:08
Alpha-OmegaI come back into kubuntu and guess what, it's automatically mounted and shows up15:08
Alpha-Omegahow idk15:08
py_canI have 6gb in Windows 7. On ubuntu it only shows 3.2 gb. both my windows and ubuntu are 64bit. Bios shows 6gb. ???15:09
Alpha-Omegawhy it wasn't showuing up in testdisk and fdisk idk15:09
Alpha-Omegapy_can: you need to use 64 bit version of the OS15:09
Alpha-Omegaohh15:09
py_canAlpha-Omega, I am aware15:09
Alpha-Omegamy bad15:09
py_can;)15:09
wNAlpha-Omega: the kernel wasn't aware that it existed?15:10
Alpha-Omegalotuspsychje: would you happen to know whether I need to do anything now to remove the mbr on the drive with the files or anything I need to do?15:10
Sidewinder1Alpha-Omega, Sometimes when an external HD isn't "Safely Removed" from within windows; it doesn't show up in *nix. I'm not really sure why..15:10
Alpha-OmegawN: I guess not, but restarting made it somehow aware15:10
Alpha-OmegawN: ohh, I know what the problem is, damn I'm stupid lol, I plugged the drive in while the OS was already loaded15:11
wNperhaps the bios did not present it to the kernel correctly.15:11
wNah. there you go15:11
py_canWhy does my 64bit ubuntu only shows 3.2gb from the 6gb my bios/windows tells me I have ?15:11
py_canRAM15:11
Alpha-Omegai used arch before, never had issue with this15:11
Alpha-Omegaweird for me, I though hot-swapping would be possible15:11
lotuspsychjepy_can:maybe a few are dead?15:12
AcidRain2012i am usuing ubuntu 11.04, and am having problems using the firewire driver with jackd to record. what channel can i get help for this?15:12
Alpha-Omegaso just my last question, would I need to write something else to the mbr now that I have grub installed to it, what if I want to clean out grub or w.e.?15:12
py_canlotuspsychje, no, in windows it works fine15:12
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py_canlotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/MxSRifz515:13
akSeyahello :)15:13
tepy_can: Did you do:  sudo apt-get -f install  ?15:15
py_cante: no, should i ?15:15
tepy_can: Sure, give it a try.15:15
py_cante: nothing seemed to have happened apart from 0upgraded, 0newly installed15:15
mushincan someone help me sort this annoying Locale error i keep getting?15:16
tepy_can: uname -a  #Tell us what that says.15:16
py_cante: Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-29-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:03:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux15:17
mushin2.6.18-028stab095.1 #1 SMP Mon Oct 24 20:15:15 MSD 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux15:17
mushinhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1170024/15:17
py_cante: that IS 64bit right :D15:17
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tepy_can: Looks like you can just remove those two packages.  I'm not sure how they got installed though, do you know?15:18
py_cante: I searched for "only 3.2gb in ubuntu" on google, went to this how-to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE15:18
py_canand it made me do that15:18
krofnaI upgraded my ubuntu to 12.10 and it wont boot anymore... (stuck on purple screen) What should I do?15:19
lotuspsychjepy_can: free -m in terminal15:19
lotuspsychjekrofna: its highly recommended to clean install precise15:19
py_canlotuspsychje:http://pastebin.com/zcvgAu4815:20
est11krofona: where exactly does it get stuck? can you see grub menu?15:20
krofnayes, after I choose ubuntu from menu15:20
lotuspsychjepy_can: how sure are you the other ram worked in windows15:21
krofna@lotuspsychje what do you mean? reinstall?15:21
lotuspsychjekrofna:yes clean install15:21
krofna:(15:21
py_canlotuspsychje: pretty sure, bios regonizes it. Then I go into windows and have 9503 programs open at once, including really heavy ones and it wouldnt work that well without having 6gb15:21
tepy_can: The last paragraph on that page says, "If something went wrong, just remove the PAE kernel packages using either synaptic or apt-get/aptitude"15:22
py_cante: rebooting, sec15:22
tepy_can: wait15:23
py_cante: ok15:23
lotuspsychjepy_can: lshw show you all the ram modules?15:23
tepy_can: sudo apt-get remove linux-headers-generic-pae:i386 linux-headers-3.2.0-29-generic-pae:i38615:23
tepy_can: If they do not exist, it will tell you.15:23
mushindoes anyone know how i can fix this error "perl: warning: Setting locale failed."?15:24
est11krofna: try to change parameters in the grub menu like vga=77515:24
krofna@lotuspsychje will all my data be lost if i do that?15:24
py_cante: sure15:24
py_canlotuspsychje: sec15:24
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tepy_can: or, you can just see if they are in the list of installed packages.15:25
lotuspsychjekrofna: better try rescue first, then clean install15:25
krofnaoki will try.15:25
lotuspsychjekrofna: any error un purple screen?15:25
py_canits gone te15:25
lotuspsychjehm15:25
tepy_can: dpkg -L |grep pae15:26
py_candpkg-query: error: --listfiles needs at least one package name argument15:26
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tepy_can: This is something that you do not need, (because you already have a 64bit system).15:27
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py_cante: it is gone :)15:27
py_canwait15:27
lotuspsychjehow can i fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot in precise?(ati card)15:27
safinaskarpy_can: "dpkg -l" and not "dpkg -L"15:27
py_cante, lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/tkXn1AK115:28
tepy_can: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |grep pae15:28
tepy_can: sudo apt-get update15:29
lotuspsychjepy_can: slots looks good15:29
savioanyone CEH?15:29
lotuspsychjesavio: what do you mean15:29
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savioCEH certified15:30
evvskomy computer always halts15:30
evvskosystem UBUNTU 11.1015:31
py_cante: with the dpkg -l | grep pae I get one result of a package that I cant uninstall trough "sudo apt-get remove <package>"15:31
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lotuspsychjeevvsko: provide little more info plz? errors? logs?15:31
py_cante: it is called "rc  linux-image-3.2.0-29-generic-pae:i386"15:31
Guest85880Can Adobe Reader (Linux) be downloaded and used on Xubuntu without problems.  My "Document Viewer and Xpdf" will just not print a full page like Adobe reader.  When I had Ubuntu I had downloaded Adobe Reader - Linux, but both times (I reinstalled Ubuntu 2 times) I eventually ended up having the same problems.15:32
tepy_can: ls /boot/   #Let's see what is there.15:32
py_cante: http://pastebin.com/bMRWCFF215:32
tepy_can: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-29-generic-pae:i38615:33
py_cante: tried that15:33
py_cante: it says its not installed15:33
tepy_can: sudo apt-get update15:33
vaiohello evryone15:34
wens07msg NickServ identify  655616315:34
Daghdha_uhuh15:34
py_cannice wens0715:34
lotuspsychjewens07: you might wanna choose new password now15:35
Sokelhi15:35
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vaiocould anyone give me a hand with lid actions? they do not work on my ubuntu 10.04 on a vaio sz61vn. all i want to achieve is when i close the laptop lid, i want the computer to suspend.15:36
py_cante: so, all pae stuff is gone now. TRy rebooting now?15:36
tepy_can: no15:36
mneptokvaio: weren't you asking about this last week?15:36
vaiosuspend and hibernate work pefectly if i press the button at user menu15:36
tepy_can: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list |grep linux15:37
vaiomneptok... lol, yes indeed... i haven't fixed it yet15:37
mneptokvaio: are you now a pm-utils expert?15:37
tepy_can: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list |grep linux-image15:37
py_cante: http://pastebin.com/L30AtqQz15:37
vaioi am an expert on windows... lol... i want to get rid of it. i just suck at linux15:37
py_caneveryone is an expert on windows ;)15:38
lotuspsychjevaio:good choice to loose the windows15:38
mneptokvaio: as suggested last week, you need to install the pm-utils package and begin to learn its machinations.15:38
tepy_can: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-29-generic-pae15:39
MonkeyDustvaio  start with the basics15:39
vaiomneptok, don't want to sound grumpy, but if i started to learn everything from scratch... i would build my own OS, and not blast my brain about bugs in ubuntu15:39
py_cante: not installed, not removed15:39
py_cansays it15:39
tepy_can: What is the date on it?15:39
tepy_can: ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-headers-generic-pae15:40
mneptokvaio: well, there it is. there's no infomred answer anyone in this channel without the exact same make and model laptop can give you. it would be all guessing.15:40
py_cante: i figured that cmd out myself ^^15:40
vaiomneptok, they are installed already15:40
py_cante: Aug 27 17:2915:40
vaioi was hoping, maybe, someone with more expertise than me... i don't know... perhaps give it a shot?15:41
mneptokvaio: there is no published standard for this stuff. OEMs implement it differently, and just enough so Windows can be made to work. without your exact laptop in front of me, it's all guesswork.15:42
lotuspsychjetheres a bug on vaio suspend here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upower/+bug/95124215:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 949296 in gnome-desktop3 (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #951242 gnome-settings-daemon always prevents suspend when proprietary nvidia drivers are used." [Critical,Fix released]15:43
vaioi understand mneptok, but your guess could be better than mine anyway15:43
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tepy_can: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-3.2.0-29-generic15:44
wens07 hi, everyone15:44
AzodonHello15:45
vaiothanks lotuspsychje... i just had a look at it. it is the same thing from what i see.15:45
tepy_can:  Above command may not be necessary, but just to make sure the kernel you are using is still correctly installed/configured for use.15:45
py_cando you want the output of that?15:46
tepy_can: Yes15:46
lotuspsychjevaio: that was on gnome-desktop3, but still i read alot of vaio laptops with suspend problems...15:46
py_cante: http://pastebin.com/922JvCZU15:46
vaioi still have a problem though with launchpad... most of the comments are utter junk - status this and status that, as if it's solved15:46
lotuspsychjevaio: any bios upgrades you can try for suspend problems on sony driver site?15:47
Joelitohi, does anyone know where synaptic saves its settings ?15:47
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vaiolotuspsychje i did have that problem with ubuntu 12... i had to install it because precise is all but precise... so installed lucid15:47
tepy_can: Is this a wubi install?15:47
G0DUBHaving problems after 'upgrading' from 10.04 to 12.04.01 on a 64 bit laptop. Now getting 'disk drive not ready or not available errors'. Tried some solutions from the web but no success so far. Anyone have any clues?15:47
py_cante: yes15:47
vaio<lotuspsychje> bios is already at the newest version... at least that's what sony reports15:48
pinkuscan i do a minimal install (no gui) using the normal 64bit installer?15:48
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lotuspsychjeGODUB: a clean install is very recommended mate15:48
sqturnnjust wanted to say hi, and to say out loud that unity is damn great and i'm loving it <315:48
vaiobut as i said, suspension and hibernation work just fine when i press the button at user menu15:48
SokelUnity disgusts me. Rather use xfce or kde.15:48
tepy_can: Well, I did not know that.  I guess that answers the question as to why it happened in the first place.15:49
lotuspsychjeGODUB: the drive has only ubuntu on or dualboot?15:49
G0DUBlotus: that's what I was afraid of :-( Not good for user loyalty though15:49
py_cante: Sorry but I dident think it would make any difference15:49
tepy_can: I would recommend you do a real ubuntu install.15:49
G0DUBlotus: ubuntu only15:49
cogsterhow in 12.04 do i reset a window to not always be on top of the tworkspace15:49
py_cante: allright thanks for the help anyawy15:49
lotuspsychjeGODUB: sata ide ssd?15:49
tepy_can: There is a lot of difference. But never mind.15:49
pinkuscan i do a minimal install (no gui, no ssh, etc) using the normal 64bit installer?15:49
tepy_can: Do a real linux install ;0)15:50
pinkusor is the server installer the best bet?15:50
py_cante: yep, will do15:50
tepy_can: Ok good.15:50
G0DUBlotus: sata15:50
lotuspsychjeGODUB: on wich part are you stuck? install or boot?15:51
tepinkus: If you want no gui, server install would be good.15:51
Sokelpinkus: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads15:51
AzodonI just installed debian on my droid315:51
lotuspsychje!ot | Azodon15:52
ubottuAzodon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:52
G0DUBlotus: it fails on boot. Will not get past a crop of disk not found errors. Tried amending fstab to use uuid but and doing fsck not no joy. The drive is available if I use a live cd for boot though15:52
lotuspsychjeGODUB: messed with fstab or pysdm in the past?15:53
AzodonSorry wrong chan. Unity rocks15:53
HaffeHi, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 with an audigy 2.15:53
G0DUBlotus: the only thing that has touched fstab was the update to 12.04 :-(15:53
HaffeAs of now I have no sound. I have tried doing sudo alsamixer, but I keep getting an error that alsa can't open mixer.15:54
HaffeHow to solve?15:54
jgcampbell300odd quesiton here ... i installed a dhcp server on a net and have 7 computers connected to it thou a swicth ... where do i find a list of the ip's and mac's from cli15:54
lotuspsychjeGODUB:really strange mate, maybe try a reinstall of 12.04.1 ontop?15:54
lotuspsychjeGODUB: i also had many errors on upgrades, so now i only choose clean15:55
lotuspsychje!info etherape | jgcampbell30015:55
ubottujgcampbell300: etherape (source: etherape): graphical network monitor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.12-1 (precise), package size 828 kB, installed size 3124 kB15:55
G0DUBlotus: I had hoped to fix without a reinstall as that will mean all my packages and home will need replacing/backing up. With I had kept better notes as the system grew :-(15:55
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jgcampbell300lotuspsychje: is that something i can use safely on my network ?15:56
lotuspsychjeGODUB: not sure what broke the disk error mate15:56
lotuspsychjejgcampbell300: yeah sure, its shows every computer connected15:56
tejgcampbell300: sudo nmap -O2 -sV --version_light -p0-65535 192.168.x.0/24  #To show lots of info on your network.15:56
jgcampbell300lotuspsychje: thank you15:56
jgcampbell300te: thanks15:57
backboxciao15:57
lotuspsychjete: interesting line15:57
G0DUBlotus: unlike others who reported broken upgrades I did not have any power dips etc. Something didn't work right as update was not complete but I did get it to complete through use of rescue disk.15:57
tejgcampbell300: You can just do a broadcast ping. ping -b 192.168.1.015:57
lotuspsychje!it | backbox15:57
ubottubackbox: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)15:57
jgcampbell300te: that sounds like what i need to do for now ... i need to learn more base things ... ty15:58
telotuspsychje: How to find MAC addresses on a network?: scan your network eg.: nmap 192.168.0.*  and run "arp -vn" after that.15:58
lotuspsychjejgcampbell300: like te says nmap is a must have15:58
te(192.168.0.* is just an example...)15:59
bohemHello guys, can some one help me with vsftpd, please? can I restrict some users to only some directories (I don't mean restrict access only to "home directory")?15:59
lotuspsychjete: i knew the internal ip part, but not the version light15:59
tebohem: sudo apt-get install proftpd15:59
lotuspsychjebohem join #vsftpd15:59
telotuspsychje: ok... /fyi16:00
VarmVaffelwhy do I get windows style line endings when I use vi on ubuntu?16:00
bohemte - thank you :)16:00
teNP16:00
lotuspsychjeGODUB:what about livecd into your system and try rescue hd16:01
jgcampbell300so let me ask this ... in /etc/resolv.conf .. can i have nameserver 127.0.0.1 can i add nameserver 8.8.8.8 right under that to make it look there if the first one gives no results16:01
G0DUBlotus: The 12.04 live cd doesn't have a rescue option I can find... I have been booting from than then chrooting to the old system. Where do I find the rescue option?16:02
jgcampbell300# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)16:03
jgcampbell300#     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN16:03
jgcampbell300hmm then where do i edit at16:03
FloodBot1jgcampbell300: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:03
lotuspsychjeGODUB: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery16:03
Sokeljgcampbell300: Personally, what I do is put my modifications in and do chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf to make sure it doesn't get overwritten. But that's on my router, because I run my own DNS server.16:04
G0DUBlotus: thanks will give that a go now16:04
jgcampbell300Sokel: i think it has to be left alown . im not sure but im trying to set up maas ... any ideas on this16:05
Sokeljgcampbell300: That disclaimer is there just as a warning. You can modify all you want, but you should backup the originals first. I personally have no idea how maas works or how to set it up. I don't have it in production, so I don't have the incentive exactly yet.16:07
jgcampbell300Sokel: ok .. thank you16:07
Sokeljgcampbell300: And if you do make changes to the file, you modify /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf and chattr +i on it to prevent changes.16:08
jgcampbell300Sokel: makes since16:08
trond-hi room. When I run unity_support_test -p I get VMware as OpenGL Vendor. When I run lspci -v I get VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) ... why do I get vmware and not intel as opengl vendor? How can I fix this? ... Upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04.16:08
Sokeljgcampbell300: Though I don't see their reasoning to do that. /etc/resolv.conf was fine. Don't see why they have to throw symlinks everywhere. At least in RHEL things are in their right spots. But to each their own. Can't judge a distro by its symlinks.16:10
knownadaI have sudo enabled and I am trying to setup a cronjob to run a php script16:10
knownadabut it is not running16:10
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Sokelknownada: What do you mean it's "not running"16:10
knownadaI think sudo has something to do with it16:10
Sokelknownada: Where's the logs? You need logs to see what's wrong.16:10
TopolHello, where is the Ubuntu Christian Channel?16:10
knownadaits not executing...its supposed to go off every minute...16:11
TopolAnybody know?16:11
Topol._.16:11
knownadawhere are the cron.log files?16:11
Sokelknownada: Everything shoudl be showing up in /var/log/syslog.16:12
knownadahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1170147/16:13
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Sokelknownada: That doesn't help when you have /dev/null 2>&116:14
Sokelknownada: You're suppressing the output.16:14
knownadasokel : thats what it is showing... but I know it snot running.. I just moved to a new dedicated box and using sudo this time around and I know that has something to do with it16:14
knownadak..lemme change16:15
Sokelknownada: We need to see a real output to know what's going on.16:15
jgcampbell300how long should ping -b 192.168.1.0 take16:15
TheLordOfTimejgcampbell300:  infinite, try 192.168.1.1 instead of 192.168.1.016:16
Sokeljgcampbell300: You're not going to get a response.16:16
gordonjcpjgcampbell300: could take a while if nothing responds to broadcast pings16:17
knownadaits not even showing up now in syslog16:17
jgcampbell300i thought broadcast happend at 25516:17
Sokeljgcampbell300: The point is, you're not going to get a response.16:18
jgcampbell300ahh16:18
c88yay www.ubuntu.com now works from Sweden16:18
knownadaAug 27 11:18:01 ubuntu CRON[18648]: (root) CMD (sudo /usr/bin/php -q /var/www/pts/cron.php)16:18
knownadathat is all it is showing16:18
Sokeljgcampbell300: Maybe back in the day you could.16:18
jgcampbell300sokel: so useing nmap .. my goal is to know ip address and mac address of everything on the dhcp ... so maybe nmap -v 192.168.1.*/16 ?16:20
gordonjcpjgcampbell300: why not look at the dhcp server?16:20
jgcampbell300gordonjcp: its on the server and i dont know how16:20
Sokelknownada: Do this, put a >> /home/yourname/cron.log 2>&1 at the end of your cron line.16:21
gordonjcpwell, find out how16:21
Sokelknownada: Then see what happens.16:21
wowciao16:21
gordonjcpit's going to be easier than pratting about with nmap16:21
wow!list16:21
ubottuwow: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:21
jgcampbell300gordonjcp: good idea ... back to google lol16:22
dperklooking for help.  Just upgraded server from 10 to 12 and I reboot and see "loading grub" but then all video dies and no ping to server.  I don't see anything on serial either. I can rescue and mount root & boot.  Any ideas where to start?  I feel Grub is the issue somehow.16:24
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Azzle-Dazzlethunderbird does not notify me instantly of emails, Only when I open the app and select get mail does my emails come through, Why is this16:33
tnk1good day, all16:36
damms005Afternoon. Pls how do I know the sizeof a blank/empty (unformated) disc16:36
TheLordOfTimedamms005:  what type of disk are we talking about?16:37
TheLordOfTimedamms005:  it should be "explained" on the disk itself, with some documentation of maxSize16:37
TheLordOfTimeor storage capacity16:37
TheLordOfTime(unless its a DVD)16:37
TheLordOfTime(then its kind of 4.7GB-ish)16:37
damms005TheLordOfTime: In my case, it is not written anywhere on the disk16:38
TheLordOfTimedamms005:  what type of disk?16:38
TheLordOfTimeHDD? solid-state?16:38
TheLordOfTimeflash drive?16:38
damms005TheLordOfTime: Just a blank DVD disc that I'm hopping to burn video on16:38
TheLordOfTimedamms005:  if its a blank DVD disk, it should be around 4GB16:39
TheLordOfTimemaybe 4.2ish, i have ones that are labeled as 4.7GB16:39
TheLordOfTimeDVDs are kind of easy to tell, they only come in one general size.16:39
* TheLordOfTime checks 16:39
damms005TheLordOfTime: So there is no way of checking to be certain?16:40
trond-Azzle-Dazzle, I would believe that there is a setting there which tells you to search for mail every X seconds / minutes.16:40
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damms005Brasero is saying my unformatted BLANK DVD disc is 1.3G???16:40
trond-Azzle-Dazzle, it's found here: Tools > Account Settings > Server Settings.16:40
tomasm-hi, is there a simple text editor like gedit that allows for font styling, ie bold, italic, underline, font sizes,  etc? I want something lightweight (not like open office or bluefish)... ive tried tomboy but my impression is that it has it's own database for storing files/notes, not using the file system like normal16:41
damms005Pls help me on how to determine the size of my blank (NEW) DVD16:41
TheLordOfTimedamms005:  how "old" is that DVD disk?16:42
TheLordOfTimein terms of age of purchase16:42
gordonjcptomasm-: like a really lightweight wordprocessor?16:42
gordonjcptomasm-: or like a wysiwyg web editor?16:42
damms005TheLordOfTime: 1 day old. I just bought it16:42
TheLordOfTime!privmsg | damms00516:42
ubottudamms005: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.16:42
tomasm-gordonjcp, yeah all i need is something like tomboy but will work with normal files... not for web stuff - just basic word processing... i've been using gedit but i need to add some structure to the file via styling16:43
TheLordOfTimedamms005:  if it says 1.3GB, then that's what space you have to work with, i assume the rest of the disk is taken up with other junk related to DVD video, burned by Brasero16:43
TheLordOfTimeits a tad different than dealing with a data disk...16:43
nsmgoi'm having trouble having rsyslog restartting. where would I begin debugging?16:43
gordonjcptomasm-: tbh I tend to just use markdown syntax16:43
tomasm-gordonjcp, not familiar with that16:44
nsmgowhen i run 'service rsyslog restart' cat -t -f /var/log/syslog doesn't refresh.16:44
gordonjcptomasm-: it's very easy to turn into styled HTML, or TeX or whatever16:44
neyder_hi there16:44
nsmgohowever if i reboot the machine rsyslog seems to be working fine... strange.16:45
tomasm-gordonjcp, i guess i'm looking for a direct wysiwyg tool, not something where i write code and then convert it16:45
neyder_how can I set an user to login without password in lightdm, but via command line. that's beacuse I have to do it in 40+ PCs16:45
damms005TheLordOfTime: i am sorry please. just curious. Nautilus (windows manager) mounted it as "blank DVD". when I mouseover, it shows blank:///. is there a way to access this "mount point"?16:45
TheLordOfTimedamms005:  not if there's no data16:46
TheLordOfTimedamms005:  if there's no data there is no mount point, generally, its just waiting to be burned.16:46
TheLordOfTimebut i'm not an expert, and i have to disappear for my classes16:46
TheLordOfTimebut DVDs are supposed to have around 4.7GB, give or take, but if its single layer that may explain the smaller size.16:46
damms005TheLordOfTime: Please is there a linux "broghtness manager"?  (for example, reduce the brightness automatically when on battery and then on DC power)16:47
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damms005Please is there a linux "broghtness manager"?  (for example, reduce the brightness automatically when on battery and then on DC power)16:48
damms005Please is there a linux "brightness manager"?  (for example, reduce the brightness automatically when on battery and then on DC power)16:52
TheLordOfTime!repeat16:52
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/16:52
quixotedonhello16:53
quixotedoni've got this message after running apt-get update: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-i386_Packages)16:53
quixotedonW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems16:53
quixotedonhow to resolve the problem?16:54
damms005TheLordOfTime: Please is there a linux "brightness manager"?  (for example, reduce the brightness automatically when on battery and then on DC power)16:54
dlamhow do i see what version of `libmemcached` is currently installed?  on fedora i could do `yum info libmemcached`16:54
trismdlam: apt-cache policy package_name;16:55
damms005TheLordOfTime: Please is there a linux "brightness manager"?  (for example, reduce the brightness automatically when on battery and then on DC power)16:55
TheLordOfTimeoyi stop pinging me16:55
TheLordOfTimeit causes my phone to go off in class.16:55
quixotedondamms005: seems that there's now such option yet16:56
Dragonflyhey there guys, someone help me with the laptop fan, Its not working anymore16:57
damms005ok. thanks16:57
ashihi16:58
pinkushow do i enable the universe repo from the terminal?16:58
CokeAddicthello, I have a ubuntu server (remote). Is there a tool I can local on my windows machine to configure apache?16:58
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TheLordOfTimeCokeAddict:  SSH to the server16:59
TheLordOfTimedo everything by hand.16:59
TriBeCa99hey guys, can anyone help me "permanently" mount a cifs share? i.e. I can mount it manually, but I can't seem to get a line in fstab to mount it on boot correctly16:59
jgcampbell300i have installed maas and am looking for the proper place to add a upstream dns server ... can anyone help16:59
ashiput the samba share entries in /etc/fstab17:00
TriBeCa99ashi was that directed to me?17:00
ashiyes17:00
ashitribe : what did u get the error17:01
Dragonflywica : are you around buddy ?17:01
TriBeCa99ashi when I run "sudo mount -a" i get 'mount error(13): Permission denied \n Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)"17:02
\nwhat17:02
ashijust check the permissions of samba share folder17:03
ashiby type this  # ls -lZd folder path17:04
TriBeCa99the share is on a windows machine17:04
TriBeCa99also i'm not sure what you mean by 'folder path'... what is folder if not the path?17:05
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FloodBot1!netsplit17:06
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit17:06
TriBeCa99wee, a netsplit17:06
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ashi__hey tribe17:08
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TriBeCa99ashi hey17:08
TriBeCa99i just chown'd to USER from ROOT, but sudo mount -a still throws the same error17:09
TriBeCa99chown'd the empty mount directory, that is17:09
ashi__type this # chcon -t smaba_rw_t folder name17:10
sulphur16Tribe: You have mount point set in /etc/fstab ?17:10
TriBeCa99sulphur16 yes17:10
TriBeCa99perhaps i'm doing that wrong, though17:10
TriBeCa99was following a guide online17:10
fAz4My system freezes randomly, which log files should check ?17:10
ashi__just type here the enteries that u gave in fstab17:11
gordonjcpfAz4: can you relate the freezing to any particular activity?17:11
mciancaHola17:12
TriBeCa99. //192.168.34.126/work /mnt/localwork cifs /home/jared/.smcredentials,1000,1000 0 017:12
TriBeCa99minus the leading .17:12
fAz4gordonjcp: Unfortunately no17:12
gordonjcpfAz4: your machine just locks up hard, no particular pattern to it?17:13
gordonjcpfAz4: pop in the install CD and run memtest8617:13
gordonjcp(or USB stick)17:13
gordonjcpalso check your cooling fans etc17:13
ashi__tribe99; did u edit the smb.cof file17:14
pinkusif i wanted a nonGUI install, is there any difference between the alternate installer vs. the server install?17:14
fAz4gordonjcp: no pattern, i don't think it's memory problem17:14
TriBeCa99ashi__ not recently17:14
fAz4gordonjcp: i hangs every 2-3 days without any reason !17:14
ratcheerpinkus: Yes, they are different.17:14
TriBeCa99fAz4 that REALLY sounds like RAM17:14
gordonjcpyeah, or heat17:14
fAz4gordonjcp: i memtested it some weeks ago it was ok17:15
fAz4it happens since upgrade to kernel 3.2.0-2917:16
ashi__can u get log in smaba share via terminal17:16
TriBeCa99ashi__ not sure what you're asking17:17
ashi__can u get smaba share folder via terminal17:18
TriBeCa99"sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.34.`16/work -o username=USER /mnt/localwork" mounts it succesfully17:18
TriBeCa99after inputting the password obv17:19
TriBeCa99except it's 126 not `1617:19
ilia1234I have a problem: I am running ubuntu 10.04. I logged in to my computer and after it asks me user name password and session type it just goes back to that welcome screen. even if I choose "gnome-recovery-mode" or even "xterm session". Finally I logged in through the recovery mode kernel and after doing `xinit' and `xfce4-session' I logged in and I have managed to start xchat. My last actions before this weird crash were to remove a brok17:23
ilia1234en package which was plymouth-oxygen... What should I do to try and fix the situation?17:23
hwildewhat is an alternative to ethtool when ethtool won't support the wifi driver?17:23
ashi__go to recovery mode17:24
ilia1234I am already in it17:24
TriBeCa99ashi__ any thoughts?17:24
ashi__trib99: try it via nfs17:25
ilia1234ashi__, you mean that gnome-recovery-mode?17:25
TriBeCa99do explain ...17:25
ashi__no17:25
ashi__give this in fstab ok17:25
GudduIn Ubuntu, how do we add a printer which is connected via USB Port? Please help.17:25
TriBeCa99ready for it17:26
jgcampbell300i need to know how to view Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) those manuals and i dont know how ... anyone ?17:26
jgcampbell300Guddu: desktop or server17:26
Guddujgcampbell300, Desktop17:26
jgcampbell300Guddu: im assuming gnome17:27
Guddujgcampbell300, Unity17:27
ashi__bye im goine17:28
akssps011I have just installed ubuntu 11.04, but I only see a black screen (terminal), what could be the problem for no gnome desktop to be there ?17:28
jgcampbell300Guddu: if i rember right its under system settings , printer something, cups...17:28
ilia1234ok another question, can I start to X servers at once so I can start a session from a different user on a different screen (using Ctrl+Alt+F3) or something?17:29
gordonjcpfAz4: check for overheating then17:29
jgcampbell300Guddu: sorry i cant rember how exactly ... i switched to kde17:29
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Guddujgcampbell300, I see that option. My question was regarding the Device...There are 3 options LPT#1, Enter URI and Network Printer17:29
TriBeCa99aahhh, okay well my helper just left. can anyone help me mount a cifs share via /etc/fstab? I can mount manually fine, but I'd like it to automount on boot17:31
jgcampbell300Guddu: http://blog.sudobits.com/2012/04/13/how-to-install-printer-driver-on-ubuntu-12-04/ ... take a look at that17:33
GudduThanks jgama17:33
GudduThanks jgcampbell30017:33
jgcampbell300Guddu: if you dont see your printer there i would think that your computer hasnt seen the usb device ... first i would try to unplug the usb cable and plug it back in after 30sec17:34
GudduOk17:34
Guddujgcampbell300, In my case the printer needs to be installed as a Raw Device Printer....17:34
jgcampbell300Guddu: i knwo there is a cli command to ask your computer if it sees it but i dont rember what it is17:34
jgcampbell300Guddu: black and white or color17:34
genii-aroundjgcampbell300: dmesg | tail17:34
jgcampbell300ya that one thanks genii-around17:35
Guddujgcampbell300, There are 2 printers. one is a dot matrix and another one is a POS Receipt Printer17:35
deadmundhaha, Guddu piece of shit receipt printer...17:36
jgcampbell300Guddu: oh lol ... ya im about to have to go throu that one my self17:36
jgcampbell300deadmund: they can be very usfull in certen places17:36
Guddudeadmund, Why u call it that? :)17:36
Guddu:(17:36
deadmundPOS = piece of shit or point of sale,  just joking around :P17:36
GudduLOL17:36
GudduNext time i willl just use the full form17:36
Guddu:P17:36
jgcampbell300lol ya ... i need a POS cash register17:37
jgcampbell300just cant afford it right now ... i want to test it out at one of my bars17:37
zerocool12hi guys17:37
jgcampbell300zerocool12: hello17:37
zerocool12do you help solve problems here?17:38
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jgcampbell300zerocool12: if i can help i will but i am not the best by any means17:38
zerocool12thank you a lot17:38
loganrunis there any benifit keep /home on a seporate LVM partition than the root LVM parititon17:38
zerocool12I'm trying to watch tv on my laptop with msi usb TV card17:39
zerocool12but I dont know how to instal drivers for it17:39
GatorAlliI'm trying to install Ubuntu Desktop 12.04.1 LTS 64bit on my Dell XPS 15 using the Live CD. I want to dualboot Ubuntu with my existing Windows installation. When I install, I get a blank installation type screen - http://i.stack.imgur.com/dsKXS.png   I have verified that my .iso checksums match, and my fdisk is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1170295/17:40
TriBeCa99can anyone help me mount a network cifs share via /etc/fstab?17:40
jgcampbell300loganrun: i moved my zerocool12: lol that sounds like the old movie hackers ... anyways i dought i would be much help there as i have never used any tooner under linux17:41
wNLoganCloud: yes. if you re-install ubuntu you can save your home directory17:41
wNloganrun: ^17:41
wNthats what i do17:41
zerocool12jgcampbell300: yes, that's where I got inspiration for the nick, XD17:42
zerocool12it was maybe 6-7 years ago17:42
zerocool12didn't want to change it17:42
zerocool12:D17:42
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jgcampbell300can anyone tell me where i can add dns addresses to Dynamic resolv.conf17:45
panther_Hi! I did an upgrade LTS to precise. Everything went okay, except for my mouse. It hangs on the left side of the screen and only up and doenw. Its a usb one . Can somone help?17:45
Guddujgcampbell300, In System settings, a single click on a icon opens it....I want to change it to double click. how can i do that?17:45
zerocool12panther_: try to use windows key to open that new menu and type mouse,open with enter and look there what is going on17:46
jgcampbell300Guddu: if i rember right its under desktop settings ... i think you can right click the desktop and get to it there17:46
prashanth0892logout17:47
Guddujgcampbell300, Right click on desktop only allows changin the Wallpaper etc17:47
prashanth0892exit17:47
prashanth0892quit17:47
GudduDoes not have the Single/Double click setting17:47
trond-prashanth0892, try with slash infront /quit17:47
GudduI don't see that even in Mouse and Touochpad settings :(17:47
zerocool12try mouse settings17:47
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Gudduzerocool12, ^17:48
GudduI don't see that even in Mouse and Touochpad settings :(17:48
jgcampbell300guddu: sorry not sure ... i dont use unity any more ... didnt like it much17:48
zerocool12try some tweak17:48
prashanth0892quit17:48
zerocool12software17:48
Guddujgcampbell300, What do you use?17:48
prashanth0892poweroff17:48
panther_zerocool12: you mean the mouse control. even when i try to control the mouse by numberbloc, it just goes up and down17:48
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Gudduprashanth0892, What are you trying to do here?17:48
prashanthno idea17:48
zerocool12i've seen these setings in some tweaker17:48
zerocool12:S17:48
zerocool12panther_: idk :S17:48
prashanthjust installed xcaht17:48
zerocool12panther_: try other mouse17:48
zerocool12or update17:48
jgcampbell300Guddu: i installed kde on top of ubuntu17:49
jgcampbell300Guddu: dont know if that was the smartest thing to do but i wanted to check it out17:49
Gudduprashanth, Are you learning xchat? If yes then please practise in a empty channel.17:49
prashanthok17:49
Guddujgcampbell300, I would like to try KDE17:49
panther_zerocool12: i did. Even a SP/2 works in the same way. I did a new kernle, but it didnt help either.17:50
zerocool12S:17:50
Guddujgcampbell300, I willl plug in my USB Printer for now :)17:50
zerocool12what are your specifications?17:50
jgcampbell300Guddu: I would suggest duel booting into another partition ... and google alternitive ubuntu desktops17:50
panther_zerocool12: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117017117:52
zerocool12panther_: is it wireless mouse?17:52
panther_no, usb, I plugged a wireless control to check17:53
zerocool12:S17:54
zerocool12idk17:54
zerocool12try some other distro17:54
zerocool12or version17:54
zerocool12:S17:54
FloodBot1zerocool12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:54
zerocool12or try clean install17:54
zerocool12o717:54
fidel!enter > Zeroedout17:54
jgcampbell300grrr ... i have been all over the internet and i cant seem to find the config file i need to add dns servers to in order to have more than one ... if i put them in resolv.conf they get erased by something .. some dynamic resolveer17:54
TriBeCa99can anyone help me mount a network cifs share via /etc/fstab?17:55
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fidel!enter > zerocool1217:55
ubottuzerocool12, please see my private message17:55
ED_yes17:55
panther_Hi! I did an upgrade LTS to precise. Everything went okay, except for my mouse. It hangs on the left side of the screen and only up and doenw. Its a usb one . Can somone help?17:55
jimcooncatpanther_: Captain Obvious would say try unplugging and plugging the mouse.17:56
yoofhello17:56
panther_Hey i tried that17:57
fidelpanther_: tried > 1 usb port & > 1 mouse?17:57
yoofim lovin it17:57
johan1337can someone help me get gparted to start? im using kubuntu17:57
yoofwhich is better? xchat or mirc? i am trying to decide17:59
panther_everything unplugged and plugged again. Idk17:59
fidel!best > yoof17:59
ubottuyoof, please see my private message17:59
MonkeyDustyoof  depends on what you prefer18:00
fidelyoof: just ask yourself what might fit FOR YOU best  - other users might have other wishes then you18:00
MonkeyDustyoof  try them both, then decide18:00
yoofubuntu18:01
MonkeyDust12.04 LTS18:01
Sidewinder1yoof, That's just one of the beauties of FOSS; try them both and which ever on suits, disregard the other; no need to get your money back. ;-)18:02
catcherI'd like to upgrade to svn 1.7, but all I'm seeing for ppa builds are unstable packages.  1.7 has been the recommended version for quite some time, how can I know when ubuntu will make the switch?18:06
beata|lemurI'm in the process of backporting cups 1.6.1 (and then other things) to lucid, using pbuilder and mini-dinstall according to (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto). mini-dinstall is giving me issues such as (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1169097/) which I can work around by manually editing the changes file but I suspect there may be a better solution. Suggestions?18:06
Makulelepeople18:06
Makulelecan you like this plz https://www.facebook.com/allsportslives ?18:06
antoine__hellow18:07
MakuleleAntoine help me18:07
Makulelehttps://www.facebook.com/allsportslives just click on like :)18:07
fidel!ot > Makulele18:07
ubottuMakulele, please see my private message18:07
yoofcool18:08
geirhacatcher: Next Ubuntu release will have 1.718:08
catchergeirha, how do you know, and how could I have found that out myself?18:08
geirhacatcher: https://launchpad.net/subversion18:09
trism!info subversion quantal | catcher18:09
ubottucatcher: subversion (source: subversion): Advanced version control system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.6.17dfsg-3ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 286 kB, installed size 1172 kB18:09
Guddujgcampbell300, USB Point of Sale receipt printer installled sucessfully....I installed it as a Generic Printer (Raw Queue)....Prints just fine18:09
peeps[work]is crontab supposed to have executable permission?18:09
MonkeyDustcatcher  the version in the repos is always the recommended one18:09
trismcatcher: hmm, that is old, it is actually 1.7.5-1ubuntu118:09
GudduDear all....Please sugggest a good way to monitor CPU/Memory utilization on my Ubuntu Desktop18:10
jgcampbell300Guddu: cool ... was gona suggest that and forgot ... 15hr so far today on misc reading18:10
fidelGuddu: is top/htop enough?18:10
Guddu15 Hours? How are u tracking it? :)18:10
Guddufidel, Is there some GUI based tool?18:10
Guddufidel, Something like Windows Task manager18:10
fidelGuddu: system-monitor?18:11
jgcampbell300Guddu: try system load viewer18:11
malcolm91How can I enable right click on my laptop?18:11
fidelGuddu: the package itself should be: gnome-system-monitor - installed by default18:11
GudduFidel...thanks checking18:11
yoofgreat18:11
jgcampbell300Guddu: lol tracking it ... i woke up lil over 15 hr ago and been sitting here eveyr since18:11
Guddu:)18:11
W4spmalcolm91: Do you have a Mac?18:12
malcolm91no. asus.18:12
fidelGuddu: in case you want wonderful graphs - check out munin ;)18:12
yoofcool18:12
Guddumalcolm91, Right click shud be enabled by default. Please explain your setup.18:12
geirhacatcher: you can also do a search at http://packages.ubuntu.com/18:12
fidelyoof: anything you want to tell us?18:12
catcheris quantal in beta?18:12
luftikussWhat is the purpose of the file /proc/mtd? It is empty on my Ubuntu 12.04.1.18:12
GudduThanks fidel....Checking now18:12
malcolm91I don't know what you mean by that?18:12
trond-I see that my glxgears -info give me GL_VENDOR  = VMware, Inc , but I am using i915 intel . why is it giving me this information? and what can I do to fix it?18:13
yooffine18:13
fidelcatcher: #ubuntu+1 for coming release discussion (if that helps)18:13
W4spmalcolm91: Did you try any on the meta keys to simulate the right-click?18:14
catcherthanks everyone18:14
W4spmalcolm91: The come with two mouse buttons anyway, so what model do you have?18:14
tqrstever since I upgraded from natty to oneiric ocelot, I haven't been able to login (error: login timed out after 60 seconds). Halp?18:15
loganrunwhat is the ubuntu way of changing a program to run at boot like chkconfig, or is that what I should use18:15
errterwyes18:15
catcherIs there a reliable PPA for svn 1.7 in the meantime?18:15
malcolm91I tried the meta keys. ctrl only opens something in a new page.18:15
malcolm91The others do nothing.18:15
beata|lemur*snickers* parse error in dpkg-deb18:16
multipasshey I want to make a cron that updates the time every so often, but this doesnt seem to be working -- "* * * * * ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com" -- how can i fix this?18:17
catcherI guess a better question would be if it's a bad idea to use quantal packages in an older version?18:17
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yoofgreat18:18
fidelcatcher: dont mix packages18:18
loganrundoes anyone know how to configure a daemon to start at boot on ubuntu? do I use chkconfig or some other program18:18
catcherkk18:18
peeps[work]can someone please help me, my cron.daily jobs are not running as expected.  I have +x permission on the scripts, running "run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily" performs the scripts as expected, but when i come back the next day, my scripts do not appear to have run automaticallyu18:20
W4spmultipass: That should be fine. I suggest you replace the first star with 5, making the process run every five minutes. That will be more than enough. .18:20
malcolm91W4sp: I've seen forums on this problem, but I do not understand them.18:21
multipassW4sp: hey, yeah i was just trying to make sure it ran.. but it doesnt seem to be running18:21
multipassit is a sudo crontab, so that it can run the command18:21
sdahola, if i put a kernel module in the blacklist, it mean the device isn't going to be used (powered) or just i am not able to use it? thanks! I'm trying to save as much power possible from my laptop.18:22
ilia1234how do I check if dbus is running properly? after uninstalling a broken package: plymouth-oxygen-theme I couldn't log in to my computer unless running the recovery mode kernel and starting a session logged in as root. after that I removed .ICEauthority and /tmp/.ICE... as someone suggested me, and still the only way I can log in is via root. when I log in from my own user (sudo -u ilia xfce4-session for example) it says it can't connect18:22
ilia1234 to dbus.18:22
yoofi knew it18:23
W4spmultipass: You can give the process -v for verbose. Also, see if your crontab has a $HOME setting and use that path and see if it works from command line. Also, ntpdate is normally in /usr/sbin/ntpdate, spec the full path if needed.18:23
Chris____I've got a drive that's entirely encrypted with truecrypt, so it's no known readable FS to Linux or any other OS; how can I share this drive over my LAN?18:24
yoofcool stuff18:25
scatenajacopociao18:25
LorraHi everybody! I'm developing a small website using xml and I wondered if anybody could give me some suggestions to make up my mind on whether I XSLT transformations should be performed on the client or on the server. Anyone ( : ?18:25
scatenajacopo!list18:25
ubottuscatenajacopo: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».18:25
yoofi know18:25
luftikussWhat is the purpose of the file /proc/mtd? It is empty on my Ubuntu 12.04.1.18:25
scatenajacopo!list18:25
fidelLorra: i dont see that your question is somehow related with the channels topic. have you considered asking in other channels aswell?18:25
dgjonesyoof: No need for the random commentary, if you have an Ubuntu support question, ask it18:25
W4spmultipass: Also, Do you have /etc/cron.daily/ntpdate chmod'ed executable?18:25
tqrstI can't login ever since I upgraded from natty to ocelot. After typing in my username, I get "login timed out after 60 seconds". Any ideas?18:26
Lorrafidel, I could ask an xslt-spefic channel, but I guess it wouldn't be as active as this one, that's why I'm asking here18:26
tqrstmy guess is that the upgrade got rid of yp/nis, but why on earth would it have done that?18:26
GudduLorra....Try in #xml May be....18:26
W4spluftikuss: It's a socket.18:27
fidelLorra: now read the channels topic again and ask yourself if its clever to ask inhere - as channels have topics - and try to stay on them ;)18:27
tqrstLorra: stackoverflow would probably be a better place to ask this, especially since the answers will be available for other people in the future18:27
scatenajacopociao18:27
scatenajacopo!list18:27
yoofi know eh18:28
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yoofwhat do you mean you quit?18:28
ilia1234can anybody please help me? I am running ubuntu 10.04 whenever i try to log in to my computer it shows the welcome screen where i am prompted to choose username password and session and after that it just shows the welcome screen again. The only way I can log in is by using the recovery-mode kernel and then starting a session logged in as netroot: xinit and then xfce4-session. Someone suggested I rm .ICEauthority and /tmp/.ICE* and it d18:28
ilia1234idn't help. any ideas?18:28
scatenajacopo!list18:28
yoof!list18:28
ubottuyoof: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».18:28
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ilia1234when i try to start a session from my own user while running the recovery-mode kernel it says it can't connect to dbus, can't connect to settings server and a bunch of other stuff which have to do with this mysterious dbus the connectin to which was not authorized. What is dbus and why isn't it authorizing the connections?18:30
Chriszilla'18:30
peeps[work]i'm trying to get some backup scripts running using cron, but or some reason that are not running, and i'm tearing my hair out wondering why.  can someone look at this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1170371/18:30
TaJMoXHow do I add a program into the unity HUD?? Shouldn't it be easy to manage the icons in there, since the whole point is being an intuitive user interface?18:31
peeps[work]/usr/sbin/anacron does not exist18:31
luftikussW4sp: I don't think so. '~$ file /proc/mtd; /proc/mtd: empty.'18:31
Sven_vBhi18:32
fidelTaJMoX: dont use it myself - but wild guess is: start app - right-click its icon and choose the option to keep it in your dock18:32
xanguaTaJMoX: hud is for the focus window menu18:32
TaJMoXxangua Okay I mean the unity applications menu thingy ... What's it called? I want to say "Start Menu" ...18:33
loganrunI did apt-get install mail-utils and it brought up a menu to configure mail during installation, is there any way to get that menu back again18:33
loganrunI tried reinstalling mailutils but it did not come back18:33
TaJMoXfidel the program is WhatPulse and doesn't have an icon, it starts in the "tray"18:33
TaJMoXfidel correction, it has an icon on the dock but I don't want it to lock there, I want it to "lock" in the applications thingy so I can click the Unity Ubuntu icon and simply type "WhatPulse"18:34
TaJMoX"Dash Home" is the label ...18:34
TaJMoXxangua The "dash" ... I want WhatPulse to appear in the Dash18:35
TaJMoXxangua Also I would like to edit the parameters of certain entries in "dash" applications ... like the icon and the command line parameters when I click the "xchat" button in there18:35
W4spluftikuss: He're some more to digest, an easy read:- http://www.righthandtech.com/embedded-linux-managing-memory.php18:36
[snake]What makes a strong enough root password... I've got people in china and thailand attempting root authentication for some unknown and probably bizarre reason :p18:36
TaJMoXSilly that it SEEMS like it's supposed to be for a more user friendly experience, but there's a bunch of icons in there that I don't want to see and there's no right-click to edit the entries18:36
TaJMoX(I'm talking about the Ubuntu Unity dash)18:36
TaJMoXCan't add/remove/edit items in "Applications" ... weird18:37
|Anthony|how realistic is it that systemd will be stable in ubuntu?18:37
BigGold[snake]: if root login is disabled, then "password" is a strong enough root password18:37
W4sp[snake]: In Ubuntu the passwd for root isn't known. It is pseudo random generated and is meant not to be changed. Every interactive task required in Ubuntu is done by 'sudo <cmd>'.18:37
BigGold^18:37
|Anthony|https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd18:37
[snake]W4sp, unless of course I changed it18:38
[snake]BigGold, how can I unallow root by ssh?18:38
W4sp[snake]: Of course, if you change it manually it's not that random anymore. ;-)18:38
BigGold[snake]: in /etc/ssh/sshd_config: PermitRootLogin no18:39
zoktarhas there been à updated mini.iso for 12.04.1 yet? cant find it18:39
GupHi all,  having this exact problem http://noldgxpert.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/no-init-found-try-passing-initbootarg.html and I'm sure the fsck solution works but we dont have a CD to boot from.  Anyone know how to fix this from the busybox initramfs prompt?18:40
[snake]W4sp, haha yeah...18:40
[snake]BigGold, ok... should I edit that with visudo or something18:40
BigGold[snake]: first, find out if it's already there and uncommented: grep PermitRootLogin /etc/ssh/sshd_config18:41
[snake]BigGold, nvm I got confused with something else18:41
W4sp[snake]: The first time i build my own random int generator gave me always the same. lol.18:42
mneptok[snake]: what you are doing is extremly dangerous. and 99.9% of the time, unwarranted.18:43
[snake]W4sp, that's because you have to seed the randomness(which is actually preset by compiler(of whatever language you're using)) with time()18:43
[snake]mneptok, what, editing the file? or entering incorrect information?18:44
mneptok[snake]: giving the root account a password, and allowing remote root login via ssh.18:44
W4sp[snake]: It was .c and very long ago, snake. Anyway, it's too busy here as we shouldn't OT chat.18:44
[snake]mneptok, I'm disallowing18:45
mneptok[snake]: that's good. why do you need a root password?18:45
W4spGup: You require to boot in order to perform the tasks. If you can't make a CD see if you can get your hands on a USB pen drive or such.18:46
[snake]bye.18:47
TaJMoXSorry, XORG crashed on me because of ... well what else, graphics problems. If anyone responded to my question about add/edit/remove of Dash applications, please respond again =)18:47
TaJMoXfglrx is the only graphics driver available for me that 'works' ...18:47
netmkTaJMoX: to the side bar?18:47
TaJMoXnetmk no that's easy...18:47
TaJMoXnetmk the dash18:47
netmkoh the dashboard18:48
TaJMoXnetmk when you press the Dash button and type something18:48
DeLorean731I can seem to get this online game: drakensang.com to work on Ubuntu 12.04 in browser. It's a Java app. I haven't gotten other java applets to work, but not this for some reason. When I try to load it the screen just stays blank. Any suggestions?18:48
netmkhmm, aren't those just "frequent" apps?18:48
TaJMoXI installed some apps with Wine and some via tar.gz ... there's no way for me to add/edit/remove those netmk18:48
TaJMoXnetmk I have to launch WhatPulse via terminal every time I start my computer ... that's silly.18:48
netmktry launching it a few times from ALT+F218:49
netmk(or ALT+F1, dont remember which)18:49
TaJMoXnetmk and yes I know how to edit "start up items" but apparently WhatPulse launches BEFORE the panel so it crashes because it needs panel18:49
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jimi_I think my java installation is borked...  most applets just say "applet started" and show a grey box18:49
TaJMoXnetmk Yeah that works if I run it a FEW times ... seriously...?18:49
netmkif you run it from there a few times, I think you'll see it in the dashboard.18:50
netmksince it becomes a "frequent" app18:50
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EjdesgaardI just installed openjdk-7 runtime and then wanted to remove it again, for removal, software centre wanted to download the package again...18:51
netmkTaJMoX: if you don't like Unity though, feel free to use another window manager18:51
BaribalHi. I've bought a headset recently. When I record something and see the spectrum, it seems that the microphones flatline is off-zero. Any way to correct that?18:53
chrisjleeHi. Anyone ever have low sound issues? I have a brand new install of 12.04 on an HP computer using  I've tried everything from alsamixer to gnome-mixer, etc. I've also reinstalled alsa/linux-generic packages. Added a ppa to latest alsa packages...18:54
TaJMoXnetmk I like Unity. Just wondering if I can change an icon really is all I want to do. I want to add "WhatPulse" to the applications. Shouldn't be hard.18:54
rsvp why does the upgrading to 12.04 REMOVE most of the prior software from 10.04 LTS ???18:54
dlami'm running 10.04 lucid, and i wanna upgrade my `libmemcached4` package to the latest latest package, is there anyway to do that?18:54
dlamthe most recent version of `libmemcached4` i got is 0.39-1~lucid1     ...but i wanna get 0.4018:55
rsvpchrisjlee, increase the system sound volume via the speaker icon at the right top.18:55
chrisjleersvp: yup it's at it's max.18:56
rsvpthen there's submenu for the volume for each app running sound... did you check that?18:56
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TaJMoXIn Gnome, how do I edit/add/remove an application from the "Applications" menu??18:59
WeThePeoplelook for main menu19:01
WeThePeoplein preferences19:01
WeThePeopleif you use lucid19:01
what123erm hello ?19:04
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what123how can I check the checksums of all my binaries to see if I've been hacked or not ?19:04
what123how can I check the checksums of all my binaries to see if I've been hacked or not ?19:04
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MonkeyDusthacked?19:04
MonkeyDustwhat123  that would be great news19:05
what123I'm seeing some /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-F5AwwE/database -nolisten tcp vt7 is constanlty taking 20% up to 40% of my CPU and19:05
bekksThere a ways to hack you without changing the checksum of an existing file.19:05
what123bekks: that's great to know, but completely useless19:05
tech1lol19:06
what123is there a database somewhere with checksums and versions of packages that I can use to check against ?19:06
netmkwhat123: tripwire19:06
what123netmk: thanks19:06
netmkwhat123: but you need a clean baseline first.19:06
rsvpwhat123,  use "sha256sum foo*.files"19:06
bekkswhat123: As useless as your approach to compare checksums to see wether you are hacked when having a gdm load of about 40%.19:06
tech1unless they modified files you wouldnt know with checksumm?19:06
tech1wouldnt system logs be better19:06
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what123rsvp: so I should do like "cd /usr/bin; sha256sum * >>/tmp/potentially_hacked; cd /bin; sha256sum * >>/tmp/potentially_hacked"19:07
tech1what makes you think you got hacked?19:07
what123netmk: how do I get the clean baseline for my Ubuntu version ?19:07
what123bekks: your comments are completely useless. please go away troll !19:07
what123bekks: if you're here to troll, go away douchebag19:08
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bekkswhat123: come one, watch your language.19:08
what123bekks: I'm here to solve a problem not argue with idiotic douchebags like you19:08
bekkswhat123: And I am constantly not insulting you.19:08
netmkwhat123: usually you install Tripwire after a "clean" install, and then it runs to what certain files/logs for modifications, and creates alerts based on that19:08
BluesKajwhat123:  be careful19:08
rsvpwhat123, do the sha256sum and keep the generated file of hashes, then run that very file again sha256sum to check on any changes.19:09
tech1what bekks said was actually pretty logical19:09
netmknow if you're not sure _right now_ if your system is clean or not, then it's a bit harder..19:09
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netmks/what/watch19:09
netmkin that case, rsvp suggestion would fit better19:10
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saidiwhats up?19:11
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what123rsvp: the suggestion is good, except I've installed my system in 2010 in november..19:12
what123rsvp: and I don't have any hashes19:12
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clarion_adminCan someone please tell me how to lock the widgets and or desktop on my guest account so that no one can move them. I need it to be password protected or some kind of sudo command.19:13
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clarion_admin<< KDE19:13
Zeptissup #ubutunu?19:15
Zeptis*ubuntu19:15
rsvpwhat123, do the sha256sum on your backup files first to get baseline.19:16
what123rsvp: I don't have backups19:16
Zeptisexcuse me what123, I've arrived late; what's your problem?19:17
what123brb19:18
what123bekks: FUCK YOU19:18
what123tech1: AND YOU19:18
gordonjcphm, are parts and joins muted?19:18
yoofgod i just used evince document reader19:19
gordonjcpI suspect what123 just left...19:19
histogordonjcp: that's up to your client if you ignore theme19:19
Zeptisdoes anyone know the name of the daemon that controls ubu's hotkey support?19:19
gordonjcphisto: oh, I may have set that ages ago19:19
yoofi recommend adobe reader over evince document reader19:19
gordonjcpyoof: uh19:20
gordonjcpyoof: how exactly would you get that to work in Linux?19:20
rsvpwow, check the new daemon on 12.04 called whoopsie << seriously, even on server editions.19:20
yoofyou would have to beg adobe to release a linux version19:20
gordonjcprsvp: yah, it's a rather unfortunate name19:20
gordonjcpyoof: tbh I find Acrobat Reader utterly unusable19:20
gordonjcpit's slow, it crashes all the time, you can't zoom to sensible sizes or search documents19:21
gordonjcprsvp: it's a rather unfortunate name19:21
B0g4r7I find the same to be true of a lot of adobe software, sadly.19:21
yoofreally? i think adobe reader is great, however i am using an SSD19:21
nux_hi19:21
Zeptishello nux_19:21
nux_Im in19:21
rsvpwhoopsie reminds me of Microsoft tactics to get user patterns and usage under the radar.19:22
yoofand of course adobe acrobat X is still king for pdf editing, but we are talking about readers for now19:22
nux_Too noisy at home for voice19:22
pale3_My question : is gvim able to detach tabs?19:22
jpds!ot | yoof19:22
ubottuyoof: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:22
gordonjcprsvp: I'm sure the Ubuntu devs have their reasons for calling a core system daemon a nasty homophobic slur19:22
nux_39 steps - is my fave film19:22
historsvp: They actually have an app for suggestions on installed apps and user prefs for the software center19:22
nux_the robert donat one? the restored print?19:22
Zeptisyoof: any firefox GPL reader is fine, no?19:22
historsvp: not suggestions but user trackign on installed apps19:22
histogordonjcp: rsvp isn't whoopsie just responsible for bug trackign if a program blows up?19:23
yoofi use google chrome as my main browser for a while now, i find firefox looks too old fashioned, like windows 200019:23
gordonjcphisto: yup19:23
zerefhi guys, seem to having some trouble, most of my applcations seem to segfault at some point or another? is this a hardware or software problem?19:23
Zeptisyou can always reskin it19:23
gordonjcphisto: it's also got a really offensive name ;-)19:23
jimi_When I go to java applets they just say loaded/started and show a gray box. Java.com says my browser is configured to use java and is updated. Is this a firefox problem?19:24
gordonjcphisto: I suppose it's an American English vs. UK English thing19:24
Zeptiszeref: could you please be more specific? Maybe you can use pastebin to post a log, and we can look over it together.19:24
histogordonjcp: I dont' think it's offensive.19:24
yoofi could, but given that chrome looks fine right out of the box i dont see why i have to go thru the trouble with firefox, not tomention the trouble of picking which skin to choose to reskin to19:24
gordonjcphisto: it's a deeply offensive word for a homosexual19:24
histogordonjcp: oh in the uk19:25
rsvphisto, but in case of error, then the HISTORY must be forwarded (see Privacy setting) which is bordering on user spy activity.19:25
gordonjcphisto: this is shading strongly to OT and also not massively appropriate for the channel19:25
yoofwhat is an offensive word for a homosexual?19:25
tech1chrome was easy to select gtk theme19:25
gordonjcpyoof: "whoopsie"19:25
tech1chrome much faster than ff too19:25
jpdsrsvp: Feel free to read the source code.19:25
Zeptisyoof: It's a personal preference thing; I'm not a fan of what google is doing with Chrome, and it's less open than FF.19:25
Zeptisthen again, I'm a bit of a freetard.19:26
theschwartzIs there a hotkey for sending windows to a specified side of the screen, so it splits nicely?  I think in windows it was the windows key+left or right arrow button19:26
blackboxersomeone loaded a sinister LKM on my box!19:26
rsvpjpds, not worth my time... I shut down the whoopsie daemon :-)19:26
jpdsrsvp: Then, please don't spread FUD, thanks.19:27
gordonjcprsvp: it does warn you if it's going to pass on logs that may contain passwords19:27
zerefZeptis: give me one sec19:27
Zeptisthanks zeref19:27
Zeptisblackboxer: ubuntu IRC logs say reinstall19:27
histotech1: I have issue that chrom runs with gtk's bar on top. I'd like an easy way to disable window decorations on it and have it use it's own built in19:27
zerefZeptis: dmesg or syslog?19:28
blackboxerZeptis, Never!19:28
yoofim new to irc, zeptis, how come your text is highlighted in red when you are refering to me?19:28
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jimi_!java19:28
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.19:28
apparleGuys, any VPN users around, i need some help setting up my corporate VPN19:28
Zeptisbecause your IRC client is smart enough to know when I'm calling your nick, Yoof. :P19:28
Zeptiszeref: where-ever it's outputting seg-fault errors19:29
luftikussW4sp: Thank you very much for providing a link th this informative article.19:29
apparle!vpn19:29
jpdsapparle: Need more info, are you using openvpn? What problem are you having exactly?19:29
ubottuFor more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN19:29
rsvpgordonjcp, precisely (no pun intended), and where is the info going? To some server named daisy run by Ubuntu -- which security is not guarantee -- so jpds, there is a lot to be leary of wrt whoopsie.19:29
W4spluftikuss: Did it help?19:29
gordonjcprsvp: nonsense19:29
gordonjcprsvp: also, #u-ot19:29
yoofwell i am using hexchat but that doesnt seem to matter19:29
luftikussW4sp: Yes.19:29
gordonjcpapparle: what sort of VPN is it?19:30
Zeptisblackboxer: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/12/19/%23ubuntu.txt << find LKM in that log.19:30
Bipul!c++ Bipul19:30
apparlejpds: I've cisco vpn client in windows. Want to setup vpn in linux, where to start19:30
apparlegordonjcp: ^19:30
Bipul!c++19:30
yoof!c++19:30
historsvp: there is also canonical-census package that pings ubuntu telling it i am alive on oem machines19:30
jpdsrsvp: Nonsense, read the source, and https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/03/ubuntu-1204-will-bring-os-level-privacy-options19:30
gordonjcpapparle: you'll need the appropriate settings from your sysadmin19:30
W4spluftikuss: Grand. I can see that you're on a path to endeavour the Ubuntu distro. Do you have any 'system' or 'process' you follow?19:30
mongoI"m trying to track down where flashplugin-installer was borked for proxy users and I am not seeing where it actually downloads the file in the rules file, is it using some dh fuction for this download now?19:31
apparlegordonjcp: won't the pcf file be enough?19:31
gordonjcpapparle: no idea what that is19:31
Zeptisexcuse me, all: anyone know the name of the default keyboard daemon? I gutted ubuntu last night and I'm adding stuff I actually want manually, but the keyboard support for Asus hotkeys is nice.19:31
JohnHirbourI'm trying to do "do-release-upgrade" from 11.10 to 12.4 LTS…. I have the mysql-server packaged installed… but the upgrade wants to remove it… is there anyway to fix that?19:32
daviddoriaCan anyone suggest an image viewer similar to geeqie? I like some of its features (that gwenview doesn't have), but I was just looking to experiment with a couple of other before choosing one to use19:32
W4spZeptis: syndaemon...?19:32
Zeptisthanks, W4sp19:32
apparlegordonjcp: I think it's the file which contains all the settings for vpn19:32
nomikehi19:32
Zeptishi nomike19:33
W4spZeptis: Please not that it is X11 related.19:33
W4sps/not/note19:33
gordonjcpapparle: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-cisco-vpn-client-on-ubuntu-11-10.html <- that might get you started19:33
W4spZeptis: Please note that it is X11 related.19:33
nomikeIf I manually add entries to "/etc/hosts" they vanish on every reboot. Where do I have to add those entries to make them permanent?19:33
Zeptisexcuse me, W4sp?19:33
MultbrelchHi all. Q: I have a CD which always gets rejected. What can I do? Ubuntu 12.04, 64Bit19:34
MultbrelchI need to read it19:34
luftikussW4sp: If you refer to the method that I am using to delve deeper in Ubuntu: I am primarily interested in applications. Before Unity appeared I was fond of testing Ubuntu Beta software and reporting any bugs I encountered. Just now I am trying to find out all about a NAS server which has an embedded Linux onboard.19:34
W4spZeptis: sysndaemon, it is X11 related. It does not come to play until X11 starts.19:34
apparlegordonjcp: already gone through all that, actually I'm looking for someone who knows cisco vpn, so that he can tell me whether I need certificate files or not19:34
MultbrelchIs there a log file which comments this problem of an unreadable CD?19:35
theschwartzAnyone know the hotkeys for sending windows to a specified side (left or right) of the screen so that it splits nicely in the middle?  I think it windows it was the windows key+left or right arrow, but that doesn't work in Ubuntu19:35
W4spluftikuss: Ah, I see. That's great. :-)19:35
rsvpjpds, if the upside is neglible for the user, and the potential downside huge -- why tag along?? Let the user voluntarily install whoopsie -- don't force it down, esp to server editions -- BTW whoopsie can eat 80% of a CPU core if you are not paying attention -- absolutely no reason for that.19:35
Zeptisokay, thank you W4sp. I sort of trashed lightdm and unity, as well as most of ubuntu's stuff, so I don't have a config past ~/xinitrc19:35
WHAT_UPwhat's the correct place to put the ampersand if i want to do something like "echo hi > /dev/null &" ?19:35
luftikussW4sp: So thank you again for your help. I appreciated it.19:35
Zeptismaking my ubuntu skinny19:35
pale3hm19:36
teclo-hi, will Ubuntu 12.04 LTS boot on a machine with 512MB RAM ?19:36
W4spZeptis: Did you replace lightdm with xdm?>19:36
histoWHAT_UP: that will background it19:36
yoofmy windows 7 x64 windows folder is 29 GB, and im lovin it19:36
ZeptisW4sp: no dm, just openbox19:36
MultbrelchAny idea with respect to my ejected CD?19:36
histoWHAT_UP: if you want to echo hi > /dev/null && some other command    that will execute the first command and then the second when the first is complete19:36
Zeptismultbrelch: what's the md5 checksum?19:36
gordonjcpMultbrelch: use it as a coaster?19:37
W4spZeptis: OK, cool. It's a good way to start X.19:37
Multbrelchchecksum? I cant read the CD ...19:37
histoyoof: do you have a ubuntu question?19:37
Multbrelchcoaster? gordonjcp19:37
histoteclo-: yes19:37
WHAT_UPhisto: hmm. my issue is when i try using it in a for loop. how do i background something in a for loop?19:37
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yoofhisto, how come your text is in red?19:38
MultbrelchZeptis, and gordonjcp : when I insert the CD it gets immediately rejected19:38
gordonjcpWHAT_UP: you probably want to ask that in a programming channel19:38
histoyoof: probably becuase I hilighted your name19:38
MultbrelchI hope the CD is not dead! :)19:38
gordonjcpMultbrelch: what is it?19:38
WHAT_UPgordonjcp: which one? #bash?19:38
ThinkT510yoof: thats a highlight because he mentioned your nick19:38
W4sp!rules | yoof19:38
ubottuyoof: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines19:38
ZeptisMultbrelch: if can't read the CD at all means it has no usable filetable, no?19:38
Zeptishe's dead Jim19:38
gordonjcpWHAT_UP: if you're doing bash programming, yes19:38
gordonjcpWHAT_UP: What exactly are you trying to do?19:38
yoofso how can i send red texts to other members?19:38
Zeptisjust type their nick in the message, Yoof19:39
MultbrelchZeptis, well I dont know. gordonjcp the CD was burned in 199919:39
Multbrelch:)19:39
histoyoof: if someone mentions your name in their text, your client is most likely hilighting the text as red19:39
Zeptisbut the highlighting will change depending on client.19:39
yoofis it working Zeptis?19:39
gordonjcpMultbrelch: it may have deteriorated beyond the point where it will read19:39
Zeptisyep.19:39
WHAT_UPgordonjcp: run the same command 100 times in parallel to stress test something19:39
Multbrelchhmm, so no good news?19:39
gordonjcpMultbrelch: do you know what's supposed to be on it?19:39
histo!who | yoof read this19:39
ubottuyoof read this: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)19:39
ZeptisI'm sorry for your loss, Multbrelch19:39
gordonjcpWHAT_UP: stick an & after it?19:39
yoof!tab19:40
WHAT_UPgordonjcp: after what?19:40
Multbrelchgordonjcp, yes ... well I gonna get it from the inetrnet again19:40
gordonjcpWHAT_UP: whatever the command is19:40
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.19:40
MultbrelchZeptis, :) hmmm19:40
yoof!tab hello19:40
gordonjcpMultbrelch: oh, you can just redownload whatever it was?19:40
histo!tab | yoof19:40
ubottuyoof: please see above19:40
Multbrelchgordonjcp, yep ... but from the CD it is more 'easy'19:40
yoof!tab | yoof19:40
ubottuyoof, please see my private message19:40
gordonjcpMultbrelch: in 1999 people used all sorts of weirdass formats and copy protection on CD, so it could be that too19:40
gordonjcpMultbrelch: heh, I don't even know where I'd find a CD drive these days19:40
histo!botabuse > yoof19:41
gordonjcpcan you still buy them?19:41
Multbrelchgordonjcp, ans Zeptis: there is some old SUN Solaris stuff on it19:41
ZeptisMultbrelch: and it was in CDFS, no?19:41
Multbrelchokay okay, thx for your help19:41
blackboxerZeptis, lol thats funny. That IRC log was of me under my old nickname ha ha19:41
MultbrelchCDFS ... could be19:41
MultbrelchI burned it under Windows19:41
gordonjcpMultbrelch: if it actually attempts to spin up the CD, fails, and spits it out, then it may well be physically damaged19:41
Zeptisyep, CDFS.19:42
Multbrelchgordonjcp, exactly this is happening19:42
Multbrelch:-(19:42
histoMultbrelch: you could try to recover the data19:42
gordonjcpMultbrelch: you've played it too much and the bits have fallen off19:42
histoMultbrelch: gddrescue to image it19:42
Zeptisyou might be able to find something to read the binary off of the CD verbatim, Multbrelch19:42
Multbrelchmom ... gordonjcp I used the CD only 1-2 times19:43
Multbrelchhisto, sounds interesting19:43
gordonjcpMultbrelch: if you can get the disk to spin up and read *at all* you can possibly dd the data off it19:44
histoMultbrelch: gordonjcp I would use ddrescue without the drive mounted.19:44
histoMultbrelch: sorry gddrescue not to be confused with ddrescue19:44
Multbrelchgordonjcp, I thought about this and probably  gddrescue is doing something similar but the CD is immediately ejected19:44
histoMultbrelch: turn off auto mounting and then insert the cd to image it.19:45
Multbrelchaha19:45
Multbrelchk19:45
Multbrelchwhere can I tunr off auto mounting? ubuntu-tweak?19:46
histogsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount true19:46
histoMultbrelch: sorry chage the end of that false19:46
Zeptisoh, Ubuntu, you're so silly.19:46
histoMultbrelch: then to re-enable send the same command with true19:47
Multbrelchhisto, CD is ejected :)19:47
histoMultbrelch: So soon as you insert the cd it gets ejected?19:47
JohnHirbourany ideas about how do-release-upgrade thinks it ok to remove mysql… even thought I'm using it?19:47
Multbrelchyes19:47
zerefZeptis: log files are pretty huge, and i've seen that some programs that do segfault, dont show up in the logs, here are the most recent ones: http://pastebin.com/1nMHANBU19:47
gordonjcpMultbrelch: it's just not picking up FM off the disk19:47
histoMultbrelch: the drive is bad19:47
gordonjcpMultbrelch: you could try another drive19:47
Multbrelchyep, I try again on a different comp19:48
gordonjcpMultbrelch: if you can crawl around the second-hand shops for a quad-speed Mitsumi drive and controller, it will almost certainly read it19:48
gordonjcp*slowly*19:48
Multbrelchcu later and: THX for your kind help19:48
Multbrelchk19:48
Multbrelch... I come back19:48
Zeptiszeref: have you tried using dpkg to reconfigure the daemons in question? (trying to cut out software error from troubleshooting)19:49
blackboxer3 dollars and change at the pump, the cost of livens' high and goin up19:49
ZeptisBlackboxer: I use my feet because I compiled them from source XD19:50
gordonjcpblackboxer: probably better taking that to -offtopic, tbh19:50
blackboxergood thing ubuntu's free.... now were back on topic19:51
ZeptisW4sp: do you happen to know where ubu's rc for x11-based daemons are?19:51
gordonjcpZeptis: "x11-based daemons"?19:51
Zeptispoorly worded question19:51
gordonjcpo_O19:51
ZeptisI dunno, I usually just put everything in ~/xinitrc and it works, but Ubuntu isn't that way, so I'm trying to learn how and why.19:51
tikluok guys I am having problem with my mouse in my acer aspire one netbook19:52
Zeptiswhat's the specific problem, tiklu?19:52
tikluthe trackpad is working fine but the mouse is not detecting19:52
blackboxertiklu, dooo tell19:52
Zeptisusb 'plug and play' mouse, right?19:52
tikluyup19:53
W4spZeptis: If you're looking for xdm and such.. it is in /etc/init.d linking to /lib/init/upstart-job .19:53
tikluit use to work before19:53
blackboxerreinstall19:53
Zeptisthanks, W4sp19:53
teclo-histo: thank you. but will Ubuntu 12.04 LTS be... slow on 512MB RAM ?19:53
W4spZeptis: Did you not say you don't want xdm and you use startx for blackbox?19:53
zerefZeptis: How use dpkg to reconfigure the daemons?19:53
zeref*do you19:53
Troy^teclo-: i would not suggest standard ubuntu with 512mb of ram i would suggest xubuntu or lubuntu19:54
Zeptiszeref: from a su 'dpkg-reconfigure -a'19:54
teclo-Troy^: lighter desktop manager ? indeed, good idea :)19:54
gordonjcpteclo-: yeah, either stick in another 512MB or use xubuntu19:54
Troy^teclo-:xubuntu is my choice of flavour and i run 8gb of ram19:54
ZeptisW4sp: I'm not decided on a dm, yet, so yeah, just blackbox right now19:55
teclo-I was thinking of putting 8.04 LTS instead of 12.04 LTS on that machine with 512MB... but I guess 8.04 LTS is no longer supported ?19:55
gordonjcpI'm using normal Ubuntu with Unity in 1GB19:55
gordonjcpworks great, but switching to an NVidia graphics card from the crappy onboard Intel really helped19:55
W4spZeptis: OK, normal 'Ubuntu/debian' way is to run dpkg-reconfigure xdm. Please note that this is buggy and may not work. :-( Just saying.19:55
MultbrelchZeptis, gordonjcp and histo : Other computer leads to no other result (Ubuntu and Windows) <= I will try tomorrow on a 3rd computer ... THX for your kind help19:56
Multbrelchcu19:56
Zeptispeace Mult19:56
Zeptisbest of luck19:56
GupHi all,  having this exact problem http://noldgxpert.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/no-init-found-try-passing-initbootarg.html and I'm sure the fsck solution works but we dont have a CD to boot from.  Anyone know how to fix this from the busybox initramfs prompt?19:56
gordonjcpMultbrelch: same results?19:56
Multbrelch:) thx19:56
Multbrelchsame19:56
homecableany one use linux on an asus 1025c n2600 ?19:56
gordonjcpMultbrelch: silly question, have you tried cleaning the CD carefully?19:56
gordonjcp!ask | homecable19:56
ubottuhomecable: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:56
ZeptisI'm on asus n50vm1, homecable19:56
Multbrelchexactly, the othe ubuntu was a bit 'thinking' but then the CD got ejected19:56
Zeptissimliar I would think19:56
roothorickWin7 machine <-- Direct --> Debian Server <-- OpenVPN --> Ubuntu laptop. The laptop and Win7 machine can ping each other, both ways, no problem, but TCP connections never actually connect. What gives? Does Ubuntu have some firewall enabled by default that doesn't use iptables?19:56
Multbrelchgordonjcp, I did19:57
homecablewhat video card ?19:57
Multbrelcha couple of times19:57
gordonjcpMultbrelch: fair enough19:57
Troy^teclo-: well i wouldn't suggest an older version xubuntu 12.04 would be fine19:57
gordonjcpMultbrelch: I've had some success getting scratched CDs back with acrylic polish for cleaning aircraft canopies19:57
Zeptishomecable: I have a nVidia 8650m GT19:57
zerefZeptis: k, ran it, will let you know how it turns out. Thanks.19:57
gordonjcpMultbrelch: ... yes, really ;-)19:57
Zeptisokay, Zeref, please keep us posted19:57
Zeptis>>xdm is not installed19:58
roothorickheh. Never EVER store ANYTHING important on optical media19:58
tikluok any help on my mouse problem :(19:58
Zeptisit was the 90s roothorick19:58
roothorickfair enough, though it still was a very bad idea, we didn't really realize it yet19:59
Zeptistiklu: sorry, so the usb mouse isn't working any more, but is it working on any other computer?19:59
tikluyep19:59
Zeptisokay, cool, no hardware problems19:59
tiklu:)19:59
tikluactually i prefer using mouse over trackpad20:00
tikluso if there is a way to make it again work20:00
tikluthat would be great20:00
Zeptishmm20:00
Zeptisone moment, looking up the name of ubu's usb daemon20:01
tikluok20:01
blackboxerI disapprove of what you say, But I'll defend to the death your right to say it.20:01
Zeptisyou have other usb devices working just fine, no?20:01
teclo-Voltaire20:01
crawlertiklu: have you tried your mouse on another computer/os?20:02
tikluyes usb disk is working fine20:02
tikluyes and it is working20:02
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Zeptiscrawler: it is working on another computer20:02
Zeptistiklu: are other usb devices working?20:02
vnhi, I upgraded a Lucid box to precise (12.04.1) recently, but my system switched to chinese, I'm looking in locale config files...all en_CA like it should, but if I type locale, LANG and LANGAGE = zh_CN, how can I get rid of these chinese configs?20:02
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tikluyesw20:03
tikluyes20:03
tiklumy other usb devices are working in the laptop20:04
tikluonly the mouse is giving trouble20:04
crawlerdo you have any other mouse to try it on laptop?20:04
tiklulet me find20:05
tikluwait a sec20:05
crawlerk20:05
Zeptistiklu: does your mouse show up in /dev/input ?20:05
tikluaha cool20:06
tikluit is working20:06
cautionwhich config file sets whether a user has interactive login?20:06
tiklui mean the other mouse20:06
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Zeptistiklu: that's cool. Is the one with problems odd in any way?20:06
tikluno i tried another mouse20:07
crawlerprobably some wierd mouse hardware problem....20:07
ZeptisI know, and I'm glad it's working20:07
tikluit seems the problem is with the mouse20:07
tikluthanks guys20:07
tiklu:)20:07
crawlernp, anytime ;)20:07
Zeptistiklu: it might be the xorg mouse driver, but if you're happy, I'm happy20:07
tiklu:D20:07
tikluI m pretty much happy :)20:08
Zeptisword up, then20:08
Zeptisthat is weird, though20:08
tikluyep20:08
blackboxerwerd20:08
tikluthe one i had is a hp mouse for laptops20:09
Zeptisvn: are you still looking to uninstall the zh_ lang files?20:09
tikluthe one that is working is a quantum mouse for desktop20:09
MunchorDoes Ubuntu come with ANY proprietary software package? 1 at all????20:09
tikluthe hp one is not working20:09
tikluyup they does20:09
Munchortiklu, damn20:09
Munchorthanks20:09
ZeptisMunchlor: there is an option for flash support and GPU support20:09
Zeptisbut it's optional20:10
tiklui think they have a lot of propietory driver/codec20:10
MunchorZeptis, oh then it doesn't?20:10
tikluyeah20:10
tikluit is20:10
Zeptisyou can run a completely GPL standard ubuntu, but it's an install option.20:10
MunchorI see Zeptis20:10
MunchorThank you guys20:10
Zeptisyou're welcome20:10
tikluand they also say that before doing an install20:10
Zeptislol20:10
vnZeptis: yes20:10
Zeptishave you gone to Systemsettings yet?20:11
tiklu:)20:11
vnZeptis: I'm in console20:11
Zeptisoh, okay then. No x11?20:11
vn(remote, over ssh)20:11
Zeptisgot it20:11
Zeptislooking for that then20:11
Zeptissudo apt-get remove language-pack-zh language-support-zh, this should work, vn.20:14
vnZeptis: Virtual packages like 'language-pack-zh' can't be removed20:14
vnand I don't have support installed20:15
vnZeptis: it seems like its a bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/99396820:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 993968 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Unwanted Chinese locale since 12.04" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:15
Zeptiswhat specifically do you want to remove, then?20:15
vnanything chinese20:15
vnI want my system in english20:15
Zeptisvn: so it's locale is set to zh_CN right now?20:16
raidoOk, my MOTD stated there is Maverick available... do-release-upgrade says no upgrade available, update-manager is set to show LTS only. Im on 10.04.4 and want 12.04.1. Someting is really wonked up here.20:17
steveccccan anyone tell me why i would be able to download a file on a website via a browser but wget says permission denied20:17
vnZeptis: all the LC_ are en_CA, but LANG and LANGUAGE are zh_CN,en-CA20:17
Zeptisvn: do you have links to view webpages from console?20:17
vnZeptis: yea20:17
Zeptishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/152668/i-cannot-set-my-system-back-to-english-from-chinese-language20:17
vnlynx20:17
bekkssteveccc: Because of a cookie, e.g.20:17
Zeptismaybe try that, vn.20:17
raidosteveccc: could be a php or java script running on the website to give you the file20:17
stevecccraido: could that be the case even if the extension wasnt php for example .wmv20:18
Zeptissteveccc: what fileserver, if you don't mind me asking?20:19
raidosteveccc: in you hover ovet the link on the web page and you dont see the source as being ...wmv, but you get a wmv from that link, then wget wont work20:19
steveccczeptis: i am not sure i have been sent a link but wanted to setup a cron job to do wget overnight but i am getting an error20:19
stevecccraido: the link is .wmv and the resulting file is .wmv20:20
Zeptisdoes the server require a captcha?20:20
steveccczeptis: was that directed at me?20:20
Zeptisyes, steveccc, sorry.20:20
steveccczeptis: no capture - its just a standard ahref link and hence i thought if I can do save link as in a browser successfully that wget would work fine but it doesnt20:21
vnZeptis: that did it, however LANG and LANGUAGE are still zh_CN...weird20:21
raidosteveccc: paste the link here20:21
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Zeptisvn:  gksudo nano /etc/default/locale, then?20:22
Zeptis*sudo20:23
Zeptisderp20:23
crfs20:23
vnZeptis: LANG="en_CA.UTF-8"20:23
vnLANGUAGE="en_CA:en"20:23
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Zeptischange it to en_US or en_GB20:24
Zeptisvn: last message was for you, excuse me20:24
nine10elevenhi guys. i suspect htacess isn't working - mod rewrite is enabled. but it's just not happening. any help?20:25
SolarisBoyincrease logging nine10eleven20:26
kapzhi my ubuntu install has problem. I put my laptop to sleep when power goes but it automatically  starts when the power comes. How do I stoip that behavior?20:26
Zeptisvn: might also want to change encoding from UTF8 (unicode)20:26
SolarisBoyis the rewrite rule in a htaccess file and do you allow overrides from the top?20:26
SolarisBoy@ nine10eleven20:26
vnZeptis: to what20:26
Zeptisjust en_us with no .anything20:26
Zeptisvn: ACSII is en_US with no .UTF20:27
markitanyone has bonding work with 12.04? I've set it up but the traffic is almost agonizing20:27
nine10eleven@SolarisBoy i can answer one of those questions. it's in a file.20:27
SolarisBoymarkit: what mode of bonding?20:27
nine10eleven@Sola20:27
thufir_I have apache2 running fine, but want to configure this:  http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node10.html  pardon, what do I edit?20:27
vnZeptis: ummmm you said UTF8, but actually its UTF-8, does it matter?20:27
nine10eleven@SolarisBoy this is a new ubuntu install..20:27
SolarisBoynine10eleven: do you have AllowOverride set to none anywhere , and have you checked the logs?20:28
Zeptisit does, my mistake; however, just delete it where present, so it's just "en_US" or "en_%location%"20:28
markitI've tried -rr that worked fine with 11.04, then also balance-alb20:28
vnok20:28
markitSolarisBoy: but in both cases does not work fine, I'm clueless20:29
nine10eleven@SolarisBoy where should i be looking specifically?20:29
markitSolarisBoy:  I would prefer use a mode that does not need switch support20:29
SolarisBoymarkit: please explain not working fine also what info is present in /proc/net/bonding/* ?20:29
SolarisBoymarkit: should prefer mode you require i suppose but OK20:29
vnZeptis: it seems to indicate they aren't installed20:30
Zeptisthufir_: #httpd would be much more knowledgable about apache20:30
markitSolarisBoy: not working is: is slow like  hell! also ping is slow, and with tcpdump I see that packets are sent twice from the client to the server that has bonding, that puzzles me20:30
thufir_Zeptis: I'm following directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman    and they don't work, though. at least not for me.20:31
SolarisBoymarkit: have you checked the file in /proc/net/bonding/* and then also checked EACH interface in the bond?20:31
markitSolarisBoy: let me reboot the server to have  a clean situation20:31
SolarisBoyas far as speed/duplex etc...20:31
Thunderb0lTI use deluge-gtk version Deluge 1.3.5. Sometimes it gives Error in entire torrents saying : No incoming connetions. So I need to restart computer or force quit and deluge several times to make it work. How to solve this problem?20:31
markitSolarisBoy: you mean check with mii-tols or something like that?20:32
Thunderb0lTI use deluge-gtk version Deluge 1.3.5. Sometimes it gives Error in entire torrents saying : No incoming connetions. So I need to restart computer or force quit and deluge several times to make it work. How to solve this problem?20:32
SolarisBoyif you must markit20:32
SolarisBoyethtool is not deprecated agaik20:32
Thunderb0lTPlease respond quickly if you know the solution. (sorry for primitive english by the way)20:32
SolarisBoy*afaik20:32
SolarisBoyThunderb0lT: that doesn't sound like a real issue concerning your s/w20:33
gingerhi20:33
Zeptisthufir_: I really hope you get the help you need, but there is an #apache room, and they would know more about that specifically. Just saying.20:33
Zeptishello ginger20:33
thufir_Zeptis: ok.20:33
markitSolarisBoy: while I wait for the system to come up, I've connected the interfaces to a 100Mb/s switch instead of the gbit one, just in case... and in /proc/net/bonding/bond0 I see one is at 100Mbs, the other at 1000!20:33
SolarisBoyit sounds like something on your network or somethng pertaining you being throttled or even something concerning the torrent being dl'd20:33
gingerwhat's up?20:33
thufir_Zeptis: thx20:33
SolarisBoymarkit: heh20:33
Joe1hey20:34
Zeptisvn: sudo nano ~/.pam_enviroment << does this work?20:34
SolarisBoymarkit: are they not the same speed devices or has the autonegotiation gone all wrong?20:34
Joe1my clock is in like 24 hour time format how do i switch it back right now its set to %R20:34
Joe1which would be normal clock setting to put in there20:34
_Trullo24 hour timeformat is normal and should be used20:34
gingercan u changed the subject please?20:35
Joe1maybe i have it wrong then i thought thats what its called20:35
|Anthony|https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-q-session-management20:35
markitSolarisBoy: in udev rules I rename eth0 with eth1, so I've eth1 and eth2 in the bound, and they are the same nic brand/model20:35
vnZeptis: this files doesn't exist20:35
Thunderb0lTBut it works after a while. I use 3G mobile broadband. Network works normal, but i dunno the hell is deluge wanting from me !!20:35
vn-s20:35
Joe1u know when it says its 16:35pm instead of  4:3520:35
SolarisBoywhy should you not use 12 hour format?20:35
ZeptisJoe1: %p20:35
markitSolarisBoy: do you prefer me connect them to the gbit switch?20:35
kapz hi my ubuntu install has this problem, I put my laptop to sleep when power goes off but it automatically  starts when the power comes back, which I don't want to happen. How do I change it? thanks20:35
_Trulloit should be 16:3520:35
SolarisBoymarkit: no20:35
_Trullothe 12 hour format is retarded20:35
SolarisBoymarkit: you need to check the card and the switch20:35
SolarisBoy_Trullo: oh thanks for your opinion20:36
SolarisBoydoes that invalidate it as a valid option?20:36
markitSolarisBoy: the 100mbs switch is a dumb one, nothing to check except cabling20:36
_TrulloSolarisBoy, np20:36
|Anthony|anyone have further info on this? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-q-session-management20:36
Zeptis_Trullo: true, but even depreciated packages are worth keeping until people trash their legacy devices XD20:36
SolarisBoymarkit: you can check the ethtool and see what the advertised speed was..20:36
SolarisBoyor something i guess20:36
SolarisBoywho knows are they both 1GB cards markit ?20:36
Thunderb0lTPlease respond quickly if you know the solution20:36
vnZeptis: aaaaah gotcha...I was as root, not the user...now, how to refresh the locales...20:37
SolarisBoyThunderb0lT: you need to provide some more info20:37
markit05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 0620:37
SolarisBoymarkit: ok thats one..20:37
Zeptisvn: lol, now do what I just got you through in nano again, I guess.20:37
markitSolarisBoy: 3 cards of the same brand/model, MB included (I've 2 with rev 03 and one rev 06, but the info are the same)20:38
Thunderb0lTI repeat again I use latest version of deluge-gtk. Torrents force error when I start computer sometimes. says No incoming connections20:38
SolarisBoymarkit: then you have some other issue at hand20:38
SolarisBoymarkit: try to use ethtool to hard set the card to 1000M20:38
markitSolarisBoy: ehm the swithc is at 100mbs20:38
SolarisBoyoh so yea..20:38
markitSolarisBoy: or do you want me to change switch?20:38
SolarisBoythen you will be bottlenecked to the slowest link any way20:39
markitSolarisBoy: when I say slow, I mean .. 6kb/s not 100mbs20:39
vnZeptis: I noticed the zh_CN, which I removed.20:39
SolarisBoyits not like you would ever get 100mbs markit20:39
SolarisBoyalthough 6/k  is slow but20:39
markitSolarisBoy: no problem, but at least as far as a single card wourl be ok20:39
Zeptisvn: does ~/.pam_environment20:40
SolarisBoymarkit: speaking of single cards - did you break the bond and try each one seperate?20:40
markitSolarisBoy: as I told, similar setup on 11.04 did not show that problem, was "just working"20:40
markitSolarisBoy: no20:40
SolarisBoythats what i would do20:40
Thunderb0lTWhy don't you respond damn this is a free. what should I expect more than this?..20:40
SolarisBoyThunderb0lT: no one cares about your torrent woes20:40
* Thunderb0lT slaps SolarisBoy with a giant fishbot.20:41
melkorWhat is the proper way to remove old kernels?20:41
SolarisBoymarkit: have you checked the file yet /proc/net/bonding/* and see your bond there and it's status?20:41
markitSolarisBoy: now cat /proc/net/bonding/bond0  and ethtools eth1 and eth2 all agree to 100mbs20:41
opiengneed to install ubuntu on my wifes laptop... finally getting rid of the windows for her! Her HDD is partitioned, can the Ubuntu install handle formatting the whole HDD and getting of Windows during the install?20:42
vnZeptis: yes, no more zh_CN in it.20:42
markitBonding Mode: load balancing (round-robin)20:42
markitMII Status: up20:42
markitnot let's try to ping it20:42
GudduIs there a Remote Desktop like solution for Ubuntu?20:42
bekksmarkit: Try using active-passive.20:42
Zeptisokay, just as one last check, as regular user ($) let's have a look at 'locale'20:42
GudduTO basically log in from a remote windows based machine?20:42
melkoropieng: most likely, I think there is a chance during install to setup partitions.20:42
bekksmarkit: Most dumb switches cant cope with round-robin.20:42
pophoreahello20:43
markitbekks: I've tried also balance-alb but only 4 pings worked then20:43
Thunderb0lTopieng: yes it can. there is a partitioning tool that enables you purge current OS and replace with Ubuntu. pretty easy!20:43
ZeptisGuddu: that's called an SSH, and there are many GPL ones, so look for one that also allows for Windows RPC support.20:43
bekksmarkit: Then try a single card.20:43
markitSolarisBoy: now pings seem to work fine, not "double" packets (not DUP, I mean packet sent twice)20:44
SolarisBoy++20:44
CrawlySolarisBoy: Error: "+" is not a valid command.20:44
melkorsyanptic used to be adequate for getting rid of old kernels but it is impossible with the new software center.20:44
ZeptisGuddu: Windows Remote procedure call20:44
SolarisBoymarkit: yeps20:44
markitlet's test speed20:44
SolarisBoywhen your on one card right?20:44
GudduZeptis, SSH allows for Graphical Access? Or only command prompt?20:44
bekksGuddu: Both.20:44
SolarisBoyssh allows graphical access20:44
bekksGuddu: ssh can forward X, too.20:44
SolarisBoy-X forward X20:44
SolarisBoyyou can tunnel VNC protocols over ssh as well20:45
SolarisBoyif your a nut20:45
opiengThunderb0lT, but can it format both current partions of the drive too?20:45
ZeptisGuddu: TeamViewer is available on both systems, and I used it in high school to mess with teachers.20:45
SolarisBoyew20:45
markitSolarisBoy: ok, fast like hell... but I've not touched any config... do I have to relay on LUCK? :)20:45
Thunderb0lTopieng: you mean C: and D: partitions? yes it can!20:45
SolarisBoymarkit: did you break the bond or not?20:45
SolarisBoyare you using bonded int or standard int?20:45
Zeptismelkor: sudo apt-get synaptic20:45
Zeptisit still exists20:45
Zeptisit's just not standard20:45
GudduZeptis, Teamviewer is a good tool..I wanted something that does not disturb the user already hooke to and using the PC20:46
markitSolarisBoy: not broken yet, the bond works now but don't know why... it happend this afternoon20:46
melkorZeptis: sure, I thought there might be another way since there are so many kernels that build up.20:46
SolarisBoyits call vnc20:46
SolarisBoymarkit: hmm weird20:46
SolarisBoymarkit: i'd look at arp and stuff it's intermittent it's really not working20:46
ZeptisGuddu: then you want to find a GPL SSH program that has a Windows RPC feature20:46
opiengah ok, so no need to format from the BIOS before installing Ubuntu? Which is the recommended method (1) Install ubuntu from no OS or (2) install ubuntu by overwriting windows?20:47
markitSolarisBoy: after some hours of troubleshooting in vain, it worked... I thought that was "slave none" since worked after I changed it with bond-slave none20:47
GudduThanks Zeptis Will look at this now.20:47
Zeptisyou're welcome, Guddu20:47
bekksopieng: Both ways work fine. There is no difference.20:47
markitSolarisBoy: I'm not a guru... "I'll look at arp" means...? what sort of arp problem should I find?20:47
CharlieSuIs it possible for me to install 2:3.5.4~dfsg-1ubuntu8.5 from Ubuntu 10.10 onto a 12.04 server?  I ask because there is a show-stopper bug that hasn't been fixed yet in 12.04  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/96741020:47
EenvincibleI am brand new to Ubuntu20:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 967410 in samba (Ubuntu Quantal) "Windows clients cannot connect to shared printers " [High,Confirmed]20:47
SolarisBoyno clue markit but AFAIK in order to do this LB that mode is doing its relying on ARP20:48
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SolarisBoyso arp -an and see if you see anything odd at time of issues20:48
vnZeptis: its still stuck on zh_CN and en_CA, but there's no chinese anywhere now20:48
opiengok thanks20:48
Zeptisvn: I would boot into GUI and remove from system settings, then20:48
EenvincibleI am trying to install Ubuntu on a an Oracle Virtual Machine20:48
Eenvincibleanyone out there who can give advice?20:49
bekksCharlieSu: A workaround is mentioned in comment #37.20:49
vnZeptis: ok will do when I'll be on GUI, thanks.20:49
SolarisBoyEenvincible: its pretty simple - having issues?20:49
CharlieSubekks: doesn't work.. I've tried all of them20:49
Zeptismarkit: ARP = advanced routing protocol, commonly used alongside DHCP20:49
SolarisBoyEenvincible: boot up the VM with an ubuntu iso selected20:49
markitSolarisBoy: is a LTSP server... do you think that balance-alb is better than -rr? I can try it and see if works after I've done some more test with -rr20:49
Eenvincible<solarisBoy> I just started but didnt know if I might have any problems with my windows20:49
Thunderb0lTopieng: hey I got an amazing manual partitioning guide to you : http://bit.ly/MWiLjv20:49
EenvincibleI have never used Ubuntu before that is why I came here for tips and tricks20:50
SolarisBoyZeptis: thats not what arp stands for20:50
CharlieSubekks: it isn't that I can't add the printer..  If you look at #3 you can see that we can add the printer but when it tries to finish adding the printer it barfs after selecting the driver..20:50
SolarisBoyit means address resolution protocol20:50
SolarisBoyand it's completely seperate from DHCP20:50
SolarisBoyor anything else for that matter20:51
opiengI am not clear on the USB Installer file options to download. I am after 12.04 32 bit ubunutu, which one do I pick? (1) Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop, (2) Ubuntu 12.04 DVD, (3) Ubuntu 12.04 Alternate i386 ??20:51
SolarisBoyarp binds macs to ip's between OSI layer 2-320:51
bekksopieng: Normally, (1).20:51
Zeptisthanks Solaris, it's been awhile since I've been in a IP class20:51
SolarisBoynp Zeptis20:52
crawlerEenvincible: Oracle VM is same as in win on ubuntu20:52
grendal_primei cannot for the life of me get brasero to burn a dvd disk.20:52
melkorgrendal_prime: what happens?20:52
Zeptisdoes it return an error, grendal_prime?20:52
grendal_primeit just gets to 3 mb of "converting video file to Mpeg2  then it freeses20:53
SolarisBoytry to run it from a terminal20:53
melkorgrendal_prime: is it ruining the dvds when you do it?20:53
Zeptisdo you want it in mpeg2?20:53
Zeptis*grendal20:53
grendal_primeZeptis, i want it to play in a standard dvd player20:53
SolarisBoygrendal_prime: what type of file is it initially?20:54
grendal_primeits  a photo compilation that was put into avi format...20:54
opiengok thanks20:54
SolarisBoycool20:54
Zeptisyou could try converting it before hand with another program, then burning it from there20:54
markitSolarisBoy: well, thanks a lot for your tips :)20:54
WeThePeople is there a program that can record my desktop in HD20:54
grendal_primeSolarisB1y, i am running it from a term..it does not throw and error20:54
SolarisBoy ffmpeg -i film.avi -aspect 4:3 -target pal-dvd dvd.mpg20:54
SolarisBoygrendal_prime: ^20:54
SolarisBoytry that20:54
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opiengis "ubuntu 12.04 desktop" a 32 bit version?20:55
SolarisBoyreplace values accordingly and such20:55
grendal_primeSolarisB1y, the problem is there are 5 of them and i want them in like chapters20:55
SolarisBoygrendal_prime: do it for each one then20:55
Thunderb0lTI use deluge-gtk version Deluge 1.3.5. Sometimes it gives Error in entire torrents saying : No incoming connetions. So I need to restart computer or force quit and deluge several times to make it work. WHat should I do?20:55
SolarisBoyand if you need chapters and complex things you can do that also20:55
auronandaceopieng: there are 32 and 64bit available20:57
Zeptisopieng: if you want to use the 32bit version, please select the x86 ISO20:57
opiengok thank-you20:58
Zeptisyou're welcome, opieng20:58
opiengthanks for the guide Thunderb0lT20:59
Thunderb0lTNo incoming connections Error in Deluge. Noone knows??20:59
Thunderb0lTopieng: ur welcome!20:59
SolarisBoyare you using upnp Thunderb0lT ?21:00
Thunderb0lTSolarisBoy: I dont know what you're talking about21:00
SolarisBoyheh21:00
Zeptisgo to Deluge's settings, Thunder.21:00
SolarisBoysmh21:00
grendal_primeisnt pal euro format?21:01
Thunderb0lTSolarisBoy: listen if i was not a noob i would not be using deluge on ubuntu.21:01
SolarisBoygrendal_prime: then use the ntsc21:01
SolarisBoyif you want21:01
grendal_prime2late21:01
SolarisBoyits a new file21:01
SolarisBoyits never to late..21:01
SolarisBoydelete and do it again..21:01
grendal_primeyou should speak up BEFORE i do exactly what you say..21:01
Thunderb0lTZeptis: go on. im in Preferences windows21:01
grendal_primehehehe21:01
SolarisBoywhatever21:01
SolarisBoyim used to people who can think a little you know =)21:02
grendal_primejk dude21:02
grendal_primeit ran.21:02
SolarisBoycool21:02
SolarisBoybetter?21:02
SolarisBoycan you burn it now in your app?21:02
Thunderb0lTZeptis: so what to do with settigs?21:03
ZeptisThunderb0lt: I dunno, what does it say you're using as a packet type?21:03
grendal_primeman that machine is running very slow now..21:04
grendal_primeliek the compositor is jammified or something21:04
grendal_primegnome2 blows21:05
grendal_primesorry gnome3 that is21:05
Zeptis>blaming it on gnome21:05
Zeptisoh man, can't help myself, sorry Grendal21:05
SolarisBoyjammied21:05
grendal_primeya..does not seem to happen if i run it in gnome-classic21:06
grendal_primejust literally out of the blue starts running REAAAALY slow..screen redraws slow...cooling fan kicks on and starts heating up the room.21:07
Zeptisgrendal_prime: while converting video?21:07
grendal_primeno21:07
grendal_primewell i was running brasero when it did that..but that process is not even running any more..and when i top it...21:08
Thunderb0lTZeptis: hey look i got a screenshot of my "network" panel in deluge preferences. look it up http://bit.ly/RoN0QS21:08
grendal_primeits gnome-shell that is eating up all the proc21:08
KM0201so don't use gnome-shell... :)  Might as well embrace unity21:09
ZeptisgrendaL: agreed on Gnome/Unity being too large.21:09
ZeptisI don't use a desktop manager at all, and ubuntu starts into less than 300MB of RAM21:10
grendal_primeya i treid xubuntu over the weekend on several machines.21:10
grendal_primeit works..but by the time i get all the stuff i need for it to do what im doing im only about 50 packages shy of a gnome desktop anyway..and i get frequent crash reports from..well everything21:11
KM0201xubuntu has really lost its way, gotten way way to bloated the last couple years.21:11
SolarisBoygrendal_prime: ive been just learning to deal with this crazy crash report thing21:13
ZeptisWell, I trashed lightdm and unity yesterday; ubuntu works without it, but now X stops pipelining to openbox unexpectedly. :\21:13
SolarisBoyi think gnome is like the ubuntu brain21:14
SolarisBoyor heart21:14
devishZeptis: are you talking about server or desktop when you say no DM21:14
Zeptisdesktop21:14
king_cobraanyone know the root code to move custom pictures to the login picture directory?21:14
SolarisBoyking_cobra: your sudo password?21:14
grendal_primeya im not really all that great with the desktop stuff thats why i was trying here.21:15
grendal_primei dont typically need to do what im doing.21:15
king_cobra?21:15
grendal_primemostly i build vpn servers and routers.21:15
AknotCan someone give me url of piratebay in which you can use the Single view option? It doesnt work on most of what ive tested21:16
auronandace!piracy | Aknot21:16
ubottuAknot: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o21:16
grendal_primefirewalls...there is no gui on them..i use a netbook with 10.04 desktop on it..and i have a workstation that has kvm running on it ..(just upgraded it to 1204 and have had fits with everything on it.)21:16
crimsonmaneAknot: it works for me21:16
AknotLOL21:16
Aknotis all i will say21:16
Thunderb0lTZeptis: did you look up the screenshot?21:17
king_cobratryin to use sudo to move a custom background to the login screen directory .. 12.04 lts21:17
ZeptisThunderb0lt: my X gave me the 'All your base are belong to us' error21:17
Zeptisso no, Thunderb0lt, I didn't, sorry.21:18
grendal_primeand i do like gnome classic i just dont have any idea how long it will be supported for.21:18
Thunderb0lTZeptis: look it up now http://bit.ly/RoN0QS21:18
Zeptistry unchecking UPnP21:19
SolarisBoyexactly21:19
Thunderb0lTZeptis what the .. is UPnP?21:19
Thunderb0lTUpload thing..?21:19
king_cobrakeeps telling me the directory for the login screens is invalid.. starting to pull my hair out..21:19
SolarisBoywhats deciding what ports to open for your torrent client Thunderb0lT21:19
SolarisBoyis what upnp is21:20
tpriceanything like freenas but that runs linux and not freebsd?21:20
ZeptisThunderb0lt: you might want to disable DHT, as well, but that's a tinfoil-hat option21:21
Aradianhey i have a dns with 4 virtual domains configured on it, i noticed that everytime 1 at random will display the default sites-available/default no matter what.. and if i reload apache2, another virtual domain will display what is in default, if i disable the default (a2dismod default) it will work but i would preffer to have my default enabled21:21
SolarisBoynot that i know of tprice21:21
ZeptisThunder: but UPnP won't work without your router also playing along21:21
auronandacetprice: ask in ##linux21:21
Aradiandoes any1 have had this problem ?21:21
Thunderb0lTi see it there. unchecked UPnP . no sense21:21
tpriceSolarisBoy i have looked around and cant really find anything21:22
tpriceauronandacei get nothing from ##linux21:22
SolarisBoytprice: you can try nexenta21:22
SolarisBoyits not linux its solaris based...21:22
auronandacetprice: this channel is just for ubuntu support21:22
gordonjcptprice: what's wrong with freenas?21:22
SolarisBoyother than that you can build a NaS on comodity hardware if you really wanted21:23
gordonjcptprice: also, #ubuntu-offtopic21:23
SolarisBoyoh this is the ubuntu support channel? hadn't noticed21:23
gordonjcpSolarisBoy: :-p21:23
tpricekk ill move chan21:23
Zeptis#ubuntu: ZFS manager general21:23
FinsUpDNCis there no ubuntu-pirating chat?21:24
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SolarisBoylmao21:24
KM0201lol21:24
Thunderb0lTI am gonna reinstall deluge due to lack of support to cure  thanks for üasting time for me21:24
CharlieSuFinsUpDNC: what do you mean?21:24
grendal_primeis that were they talk about stealing open source software?21:24
SolarisBoyyou might as well go to windows if you only solution is reboot/reinstall for everything21:25
grendal_primecause thats at apple.com21:25
SolarisBoyheh21:25
gordonjcpgrendal_prime: no, it's where you use open-source software to assist your buccaneering adventures21:25
FinsUpDNCThey were having issue with torrents above and the images had torrents of dark knight etc downloading21:25
CharlieSuFinsUpDNC: mpaa.org can help..21:26
FinsUpDNCnah they will sue some grandmother that has a bunch of people stealing her wireless :)21:26
king_cobranevermind i found it..21:26
gordonjcpSolarisBoy: tbh I tend to reinstall if something is borked to the point it's going to take more than 30 minutes to fix21:26
SolarisBoyheh21:27
Zeptis>>ubuntu-pirating21:27
Zeptiswtf am I reading21:27
Thunderb0lTFinsUpDNC: yah i like watching movies again and again in blueray 1080p quality21:27
tpricewhats the support for ZFS on ubuntu? should i use ZFS or lvm for raid?21:27
SolarisBoytprice: i wouldn't advise it...21:27
tpricewhy?21:27
auronandace!zfs | tprice21:27
ubottutprice: For information concerning ZFS and Ubuntu, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS21:27
tpriceand what ZFS or lvm?21:27
SolarisBoyzfs is way more groovy than lvm21:27
wNsays SolarisBoy21:28
wN:P21:28
SolarisBoyim afraid the linux zfs implementation needs work21:28
SolarisBoyheh21:28
Thunderb0lTSolarisBoy: do you have an experience with *BSDs?21:28
SolarisBoyyes21:28
tatoalguém pode me ajudar a atualizar o meu indicador de tempo para a versão 12.7?21:28
SolarisBoyfreebsd mainly - but i dont like ports so i avoid it21:28
tpriceSolarisBoy i need to pool drives what about greyhole?21:29
SolarisBoypooling drives == ZFS21:29
IdleOne!br | tato21:29
SolarisBoyi dont know about greyhole21:29
ubottutato: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.21:29
gordonjcptato: !pt21:29
tpricei just want something that easy to use21:29
gordonjcp!pt | tato21:29
SolarisBoyyou can use softraid, hard raid, lvm (depending on your OS) and zfs to pool21:29
gordonjcpo_O21:29
tatoobrigado21:29
Daghdha_and inbetween soft and hard21:29
gordonjcptato: oh well, #ubuntu-pt I tihnk21:30
SolarisBoyDaghdha_: thats what she said21:30
ratcheerLOL21:30
gordonjcptato: or ask in English, I think you're asking about setting your clock in version 12.7 - but 12.7 of *what*?21:30
tpriceSolarisBoy i like zfs but have not used it before21:30
SolarisBoylol how did that happen?21:30
Froxykick him21:30
Zeptis@Gordonjcp: there are a good deal of differences between pt_pt and br_pt.21:31
SolarisBoywell i like angelina joe lee and never touched her so i guess it makes sense..21:31
Thunderb0lTtato: indicador de tempo que voce usa?21:31
gordonjcpZeptis: I know21:31
gordonjcpZeptis: I also suck at both21:31
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Froxyfrench ?21:31
ZeptisBrazilian Portuguese, Froxy.21:31
Zeptishue~21:31
Froxyso bad21:31
ratcheerTato is speaking Portuguese21:31
IdleOnehe has already been directed to the correct channel.21:32
SolarisBoyoh cool - can he go to where people understand it at?21:32
gordonjcpZeptis: I know enough to recognise pt not es ;-)21:32
SolarisBoyi only know english and bad english21:33
Merishehe21:33
SolarisBoywhammy21:33
Zeptiswhich rc loads audio in ubuntu desktop 12.04LTS by default?21:34
dlynes_laptopZeptis, pulseaudio?21:34
Zeptisdlynes_laptop: yes, but what loads pulseaudio.21:35
SolarisBoyupstart?21:35
SolarisBoyZeptis: ^21:35
JoostAHi guys: did anybody try to let Skype 4 (for Linux) use another wave file for an incoming call (not the modern version but the old fashioed version). It appears to that is altogether impossible as it crashes Skype.21:35
dlynes_laptopZeptis, I must be missing something?  /etc/init.d/pulseaudio21:35
Zeptisthanks, dlynes.21:36
SolarisBoynope21:36
SolarisBoyZeptis: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio21:36
buhmanhow do I debug PAM? I want to make log messages for things that pam does appear21:36
dlynes_laptopZeptis, you never tried looking in the /etc/init.d directory, I guess?21:36
stiltzkinI have a quick question - I asked over in #kubuntu but there doesn't seem to be much activity over there. Anyone know what the KDE equivalent of the "gnome-session" package is? Is it KDM? Thanks and sorry for asking a KDE-related question here.21:36
Merisbuham, try  auth.log21:37
ratcheerstiltzkin: No, kdm is analogous to gdm or lightdm.21:37
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SolarisBoydid ubuntu ever have an equivalent to chckconfig?21:37
celthunderstiltzkin: kdm is the same as gdm ....21:37
SolarisBoychkconfig*21:37
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Zeptisdlynes_laptop: does init.d have documentation?21:38
SolarisBoydespite usage of upstart i still see all services are not migrated over to upstart and probably never will be, i always had to install chkconfig out of band - do they have anything that just prints what starts when?21:38
SolarisBoythats not a red hat port?21:38
stiltzkinratcheer, celthunder: OK thanks, I thought so. I'm just following a tutorial and I don't know what to substitute for "gnome-session" in this script, because I don't know what KDE's session manager is.21:38
mongoSolarisBoy: chkconfig just makes sym links to the rc?.d directories21:38
Merisbuham, to be precise: /var/log/auth.log*21:39
krababbelZeptis: debian has a guide21:39
mongoSolarisBoy: for upstart services you need to modify the events21:39
Zeptisthanks krababbel21:39
krababbelZeptis: But I think I saw an ubuntu version21:39
SolarisBoymongo: thats not quite what i mean21:39
SolarisBoymongo: so i get the difference, definately,,21:39
SolarisBoymongo: my thing is that all services are not upstart21:39
krababbelZeptis: http://refspecs.linuxbase.org/LSB_3.1.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/tocsysinit.html21:39
SolarisBoyfor instance, pulseaudio21:40
dlynes_laptopZeptis, /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc21:40
mongoSolarisBoy: upstart starts legacy init jobs too21:40
SolarisBoymongo: how would you tell what "possible" order that it would start in (without looking at the number on the link)?21:40
krababbelthat should be on the front page21:40
SolarisBoymongo: so now again my question..21:40
mongoSolarisBoy: you have to walk through, it is not well documented21:40
SolarisBoyexactly my point21:40
SolarisBoyso i have to do it manually21:40
SolarisBoyjust wanted to confirm that21:40
dlynes_laptopSolarisBoy, that's because Ubuntu hasn't fully migrated over to the upstart method yet21:41
SolarisBoyrather appauling21:41
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MerisI agree21:41
SolarisBoyyou dont just implement new systems which over ride very old (working ones)21:41
SolarisBoyand go doc short.. haha21:41
mongoi'll hold my tounge but part of the problem is that upstart is so limited in funcationality that you can't port some to upstart21:41
dlynes_laptopSolarisBoy, however, all initscripts can still be accessed using traditional methods (/etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart)21:41
SolarisBoyEXACTLY my point - which is why i KNOW that it will never be all upstart21:42
ratcheerHeh heh. systemd does that, too.21:42
opiengcan I do my partitioning in ubuntu after I do the install or do I need to do it at the install stage?21:42
MerisSolarisBoy, tell that to the developer of pulseaudio :-P21:42
mongoSolarisBoy: man upstart-events will help you a lot21:42
SolarisBoysure but that doesn't tell me when it starts or at what run level or what time they would start21:42
SolarisBoynah im good21:42
dlynes_laptopopieng, during install, or you won't have anywhere to install to21:42
SolarisBoymongo: im aware of those but its a tail chase21:42
mongoMeris: with no other distro going to upstart most upstream maintaniers don't care21:42
SolarisBoythen i need to find out what events start what events - i guess i can just look at /var/log/upstart times?21:42
mongoSolarisBoy: run levels dont' really exist21:43
SolarisBoyin the real world they do21:43
SolarisBoyin ubuntu world they dont21:43
dlynes_laptopmongo, they do...just not in ubuntu21:43
Merismongo, true, but upstart has already been around sometime now.21:43
SolarisBoyif i do init 6 the run leve changes21:43
SolarisBoyindeed21:43
mongodlynes_laptop: well i'm talking in this context21:43
SolarisBoyso they exist to me21:43
Zeptisoh cool, there's actually a readme21:43
dlynes_laptopmongo, ubuntu has some kinda weird bastardized version of run levels that's not well documented21:43
mongoMeris: yes, but there are packages, where @ubuntu.org maintaniers maintain the debian port yet they aren't migrated21:43
theschwartzAnyone know why when I'm working on a LibreOffice document, when it goes into the background (behind a firefox window or something), I can't click on the libreoffice icon to bring the document back into the foreground?21:43
opiengdlynes_laptop, but there is an option to let Ubunut delete all the current paritions and use the whole HDD for ext421:43
mongodlynes_laptop: yes, upstart, it is event driven21:44
dlynes_laptopopieng, correct21:44
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mongoso "if alsa is started then start pulse" vs "runlevels"21:44
SolarisBoyexactly21:44
dlynes_laptopmongo, ah...so cause and effect?21:44
SolarisBoyor rather start $service when network is available - etc21:44
Merismongo, that's potentially building on sand then. A risky approach, especially for an LTS.21:44
mongodlynes_laptop: event driven21:44
SolarisBoymore eventish explanation21:44
opiengso my question really is, can I later on parition the further or do I need to do this at the install stage?21:45
ZeptisIs update-rc.d good, or should I do this manually?21:45
Merismongo an => a21:45
SolarisBoyupdate-rc.d is good for non upstart scripts afaik21:45
mongomy issue is that if it doesn't spawn the actual app it will break21:45
SolarisBoyfor upstart scripts just create a /etc/init/*conf file replacing * with service name or w/e21:45
dlynes_laptopso if the process at the bottom of the pyramid fails, then ubuntu comes tumbling after?21:45
SolarisBoydlynes_laptop: yes21:45
mongoe.g. if you call a script that runs apps that run apps it will not function21:45
dlynes_laptopi.e. what happens when plymouth fails (which shouldn't be a dependency for anything)21:46
crims0nevening21:46
SolarisBoyi recall it breaking rc.local stuff too21:46
SolarisBoy@upstart21:46
jribdlynes_laptop: erm, if process B depends on A and A fails then B wouldn't start21:46
ratcheeropieng: It is still better to plan your partitions before giving the whole disk to one partition.21:46
mongojrib: although there is the "should" directive21:46
`DjM4Xis there any osd (on screen display) app for gpu temp / fps in ubuntu? kinda like msi afterburn osd stuff.21:46
jribis there an actual question regarding upstart?21:46
dlynes_laptopjrib, Yeah..I just don't get why anything has plymouth for a dependency21:46
opiengok thanks21:46
SolarisBoyyes21:46
SolarisBoybut it was answered21:46
SolarisBoyjrib:21:46
dlynes_laptopjrib, and why the kernel has a dependency on plymouth, when no other distro has a dependency on plymouth21:47
`DjM4X!libglfps21:47
mongoya plymouth should be a "recomend"21:47
SolarisBoywhat to much complaining about upstart for #ubuntu ;>21:47
dlynes_laptopmongo, recommend not to install?21:47
Sokeldlynes_laptop: Fedora and RHEL have dependencies on it also.21:47
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SolarisBoyrhel doesn't break startups..21:47
Zeptisdoes when using "update-rc.d <basename>" does * work as input?21:47
mongodlynes_laptop: no, it plymoth could be a recomend but not a require21:47
SolarisBoyZeptis: no21:47
dlynes_laptopSokel, really?  why doesn't debian require it?21:47
Meris`DjM4X, there is, it's called xsensors.21:47
`DjM4X!xsensors21:48
SokelSolarisBoy: Pretty typical :) Rhel is beast in that respect. Only problem is if you remove plymouth, you can't install a new kernel because removing plymouth ALSO removes dracut.21:48
dlynes_laptopAnd while i'm on a rant, gnome 3 sucks almost as bad as unity21:48
`DjM4XMeris are you sure it displays info even if i'm on a fullscreen app?21:48
Sokeldlynes_laptop: Does debian have a "pretty" startup like ubuntu or fedora?21:48
mongonot fixing upstart's stupidity and the refusal to use the main line kernel app armor are my big two beefs right now :)21:48
dlynes_laptopSokel, do i care?21:48
`DjM4Xalso, the site says it's only for motherboard stuff not gfx21:48
dlynes_laptopSokel, i just need my OS to start up, run and help me get my work done21:48
Meris`DjM4X, no, I'm not sure about that, might be a config. setting though.21:49
dlynes_laptopSokel, I don't need eye candy21:49
Sokeldlynes_laptop: If you're going to be a cry baby, then install a different distribution.21:49
crimsonmanedlynes_laptop: so you want KDE from what i'm hearing21:49
jribthese discussions about upstart and such really don't seem support related, please move to #ubuntu-offtopic21:49
opiengI have 160GB HDD, I was going to do, 80GB for \     78GB for \home     and    2GB for swap21:49
dlynes_laptopSokel, I have, but i'm resigned to using Ubuntu at work21:49
histodlynes_laptop: install a minimal system them.21:49
`DjM4XMeris http://freecode.com/projects/libglfps21:49
opiengdoes that look ok?21:49
`DjM4Xseems better21:49
AethrsMy virtual desktop display and ability to switch to them seems to have disappeared suddenly.  How do I get it back?21:50
ratcheeropieng: Try 30 GB for / and save some for the future.21:50
dlynes_laptopcrimsonmane, nah...KDE 3 I loved...KDE 4....meh...too much like Mac OSX, but without the functionality21:50
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opiengratcheer, so where do i allocate the other 70GB to?21:51
histoopieng: 80GB for / is rather large when you have a seperate /home21:51
loneclockhello, i was wondering how to view files on my windows partition when  booting ubuntu and to view files on linux when booting in windows21:51
opiengsorry I mean 50GB21:51
ratcheeropieng: You don't have to use it all at once.21:51
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opiengwhats you suggestions please?21:51
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yoof2what is alternative to ms visual studio c++?21:51
dlynes_laptoploneclock, mount /path/to/windows/partition /path/to/windows/partition/mount/point -t ntfs21:51
yoof2on ubuntu21:51
ratcheeropieng: How much RAM does it have?21:51
histoloneclock: open nautilus and you will see your windows drive on the left frame in ubuntu21:52
opiengratcheer, 1GB RAM21:52
histoloneclock: in windows you will need a program installed to browse ext4 filesystems21:52
Zeptisyoof2: g++21:52
Meris`DjM4X, look I'm no expert on these things, xsensors is general and modular in it's approach, it's basically a kind of desktop widget. The tool you point to is much more specific and displays framerates, not Temps, as far as I can see21:52
histoopieng: if you want 30GB for root put the extra 50GB on the /home  /home is where you store all your files and per application settings for your users21:53
krababbelloneclock: you need the ext2fs driver21:53
ratcheeropieng: Ok, I recommend 2.5 GB for swap, 40 GB for /, and 60 GB for /home. Save the rest for future expansion.21:53
krababbelloneclock: read support is there write not really for ext421:53
opienghisto, ratcheer thanks, so what will Ubuntu install do with the rest of the HDD space? sorry I am new to Ubuntu and Linux21:54
ratcheeropieng: That will give you plenty of room for a long time.21:54
Merisyoof2, arre you searching for an IDE? if so there are several to choose from. Eclipse comes to mind here. It's extremely modular(even sporting commercial variants if you are so inclined) and works for lots of programming languages.21:54
loneclockhisto, i think i have tried using nautilus before but for some reason it doesn't show up until i mount it21:55
crims0nSo... is gtk the framework that gnome and kde are built off of? And gtk is build off of the X windows system?21:55
uatevercan someone help me with ati drivers please?21:55
uateverso i dont make the same mistake again21:55
Meriscrims0n, gtk has nothing to do with KDE21:55
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lblcrims0n: gnome uses gtk, kde uses qt21:55
crimsonmanewhy you stealing my name?21:56
ratcheeropieng: It will not do anything with it. It will just be "free" on your disk. You can use it later, if you need to.21:56
uatever?21:56
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lblcrims0n: gtk is pretty much tied to X, qt not21:56
Meriscrimsonmane, the color crimson is not exclusive to you, now is it? Sounds like the hubbub over the acronym NT in the 90's. Please, not again.21:57
ratcheeropieng: If you feel the necessity to use it all right now, use 4.5 GB for swap, 40 GB for /, and the rest for /home.21:57
crims0nbut you can use gtk without the gnome desktop right? What I am getting at is... I have an ubuntu server without a desktop environment, however I have xming running on a windows machine and I can tunnel gui porgrams via ssh. Is it JUST using the x window system to display them?21:58
uatevershould i install the drivers from ATI with catalyst or the ones that appear in additional drivers?21:58
floatingfeijoahey, anyone know how to get os-prober to look at a particular drive?21:59
lblcrims0n: yes. the toolkits are independent of the desktops. the desktops depend on the toolkits21:59
uateveroh thats it... i must be invisible21:59
AethrsCan someone advise me how to get my gnome classic virtual desktops back?  They disappeared totally suddenly.22:00
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histo!ati | uatever22:00
ubottuuatever: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto22:00
opiengok thanks, why can I not select to partion my /home drive as ntfs?22:01
crims0nthanks lbl, so when I install say... vim-gtk and tunnel it to my windows machine, its not actually using gtk just the X window system right?22:01
gordonjcpopieng: ntfs won't work for /home, it's just not suitable22:01
histoopieng: maybe they don't have fuse running in the installer.22:01
ratcheerAethrs: That happened to me once. There was a hidden panel overlaying them on the bottom panel. I found it with my mouse pointer and dragged it off the workspaces.22:01
ZeptisAnyone know why X would send signal 11 to Openbox?22:01
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lbldepends on what's running on your display. if that's plain X than it's plain X22:02
crims0nmakes sense22:02
opiengso what shall I opt for, for the /home partition?22:02
krababbelopieng: ntfs has different permission system, not compatible with linux22:02
histoopieng: I would use a posix compliant fs for home.  Use ext422:02
krababbelopieng: ext4. ext2, if you want write access from windows.22:03
opiengSo ext4 for \ and \home is fine?22:03
histoopieng: yeap22:03
opiengok thanks22:03
lblcrims0n: whatever the X client (using a toolkit or nor) does is translated in "plain X" protocol, and displayed by the X server. so whether it's using gtk or not is a client side thing22:04
uateverSorry, installation of this driver failed.22:04
uateverPlease have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log22:04
uateveragain..22:04
histouatever: what driver were you trying to install and were did youg et it from?22:05
malcolm91hello. i have a problem with the right click function. i can't figure it out with the forums.22:05
uateverjust using additional drivers22:05
ZeptisX keeps sending Openbox signal 11 and crashing, lol.22:05
uateverthe ones that ubuntu asked me to install22:05
histouatever: can you pastebin the jockey.log22:05
opiengjust checking.... is type: Primary for \ and type: Logical for \home and swap the correct choices?22:05
krababbelopieng: doesn't really matter, but you can only have four primary partitions on a drive22:06
gordonjcpopieng: / and /home22:06
gordonjcpopieng: get the slashes the right way round, it's important ;-)22:06
krababbelopieng: / has to be primary I guess22:06
markitis there any official repo for newer kernel for 12.04? I've an issue with a realtek nic, wondering if is a kernel one...22:07
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gordonjcpopieng: I tend to make a small /boot about 256MB ext2 on primary then /, /home and swap on extended22:07
crims0nlbl thanks, I don't think xming supports gtk on windows but that is fine with me, being lightweight is more important22:07
crims0njust was curious how it all played together22:07
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histoopieng: I usally create primary partitions for / and /home and put swap on an extended/logical partition22:07
histoopieng: but it's up to you doesn't really matter22:08
histokrababbel: I don't believe / has to be primary22:08
krababbelhisto: I meant /boot, yes :)22:08
krababbelbut /boot is usually on /22:08
histokrababbel: /boot doesn't either as far as I know22:09
WeThePeoplehi22:09
krababbelhisto: thanks, wasn't sure22:09
nydelhi all22:09
histokrababbel: unless there is a bug in grub or something22:10
krababbelI guess grub does alright, I was thinking of older DOS days :)22:10
AnquietasHello22:11
krababbelthough never tested that actually I think22:11
h6sidhufor extending the user model, is it recommended to use a foreign key with unique=true?22:12
uateverhisto i opened a convo with you can you check it please? if its ok22:12
AnquietasHello, I have a small problem... I've downloaded the new KUbuntu ISO image (12.04.1) but it has 703.3 MB, my CD has only the 702.8 MB (Standard size)... what should I do ?....22:12
histokrababbel: yeah if you install grub to the mbr you should be able to have boot on extended22:12
h6sidhuwoops wrong irc22:12
histo!paste | uatever22:12
ubottuuatever: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:12
histo!pm uatever22:13
histo!pm | uatever22:13
ubottuuatever: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.22:13
histouatever: so you can install pastebinit and just pastebinit /var/log/jockey.log22:13
W4sph6sidhu: Yes, thats what I would do.22:14
HAMKootAnquietas, known problem, buy 800 mb cd+r or use a usb-flash disk22:14
gordonjcpAnquietas: indeed, just use a USB flash drive22:14
Anquietasok, thanks guis22:14
Anquietasguys*22:14
histoAnquietas: burn to dvd or put it on usb flash22:14
gordonjcpoptical media is obsolete22:15
Anquietasok22:15
histoAnquietas: I personally just use the mini.iso and pull all the packages from online rather than burning cds over and over.22:15
histogordonjcp: no it isn't22:15
Zeptislegacy != obsolete22:15
histogordonjcp: blu-ray22:15
gordonjcphisto: meh, maybe for games consoles22:15
histogordonjcp: dvd and blu-ray is going to be around for a little bit longer here.22:16
gordonjcphisto: eh, slow, limited capacity, expensive, fragile...22:16
Zeptisgordonjcp: until every BIOS boots from USB natively, it's still cool.22:16
histogordonjcp: good luck streaming your 40GB movie with blu ray quality22:16
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gordonjcphisto: I don't watch movies22:17
smw_are there any good guides on making a vm for libvirt?22:17
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trond-what is the Gallium 0.4. I can see it in Details when checking graphics. I should have said Intel something though. (No 3d unity)22:17
smw_I mean producing an image with vmbuilder (or something else)22:17
gordonjcptrond-: it's an API for 3D devices22:18
trond-gordonjcp, so should not be removed then...22:18
gordonjcptrond-: not if you want your graphics to work properly ;-)22:18
trond-gordonjcp, so when it says on llvmpipe, what does that mean?22:18
WeThePeople what is dnd2share in cairo dock?22:19
trond-gordonjcp, I kinda like to have my graphics in proper working condition :)22:19
gordonjcptrond-: I'm not certain, but I know it uses llvm to compile shader code for certain backends22:19
Dr_Willis_WeThePeople:  just my guess 'Drag and Drop 2 share'22:19
* gordonjcp <- not a graphics guy22:19
uateverhisto the non (post release updates) seems to install file22:19
WeThePeopleduh :)22:19
Dr_Willis_I thought llvm was how Unity3d was supposed to work with 2d only cards in the next 12.10 release.22:19
memethan i make sudo-apt get install nodejs npm, will i get both packages from the ppa, or will be 1 from the ppa and another from official ubuntu repo?22:19
gordonjcpDr_Willis_: llvm is a compiler framework22:20
Dr_Willis_meme:  you will ghet what one has a newer version normally22:20
trismmeme: apt-cache policy package_name; will tell you where the updated package will come from22:20
memeif i install a ppa such as https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/node.js/22:20
trond-gordonjcp, I c. Trying to be able to run unity in 3d, but that is not possible at the moment. I am getting GL_VENDOR     = VMware, Inc. which should have said Intel ...22:20
memetrism, how do icheck?command?22:21
trismmeme: apt-cache policy nodejs npm; in your instance I suppose22:21
gordonjcptrond-: are you running inside a VM?22:21
Dr_Willis_OpenGL rasterizer LLVMpipe,  - is how 12.10 is getting unity 3d working on 2d video cards. ;)22:21
trond-gordonjcp, nope. On bare metal (E4310 - upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04)22:21
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trond-gordonjcp, Dr_Willis : Seems as llvm is this:  The Low-Level Virtual Machine (LLVM) (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/llvm-3.0)22:23
memegreat thans everyone22:23
UmoHey all , I am trying to install ubuntu and I'm having graphic problems. When I try to install from USB I get a black screen with nothing.22:23
UmoMy video card is a GTX 550 ti22:24
krababbelUmo: have you checked your downloaded iso with md5sum?22:24
UmoI get grub. its only when i try to install or boot live22:25
uateveryup no updated version installs but i can't even set full hd resolution on my tv..22:27
zykotick9!nomodeset | Umo22:27
ubottuUmo: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter22:27
matts45acpcan somone here tell me how to install the encryption pagages for playing dvd monies in the movie player?22:27
Dr_Willis!dvd | matts45acp22:28
ubottumatts45acp: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:28
Dr_Willisive noticed some copy-protected 'dvd' movies - dont want to play right for me lately. :( except in my new blue ray player22:28
uateveryup seems like its back to windows 7 since even to install simple drivers you have to go through 100 pages of documentation22:28
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Dr_Willisuatever:  useing one kernel boot line.. is not 100 pages.. so do what you want22:29
MerisDr_Willis, those kind of discs should be denied the DVD logo.22:29
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Dr_WillisMeris:  they DONT have the dvd logo.. they are still sold as dvd movies..22:29
uateverwell if tried to do it manually and its not working22:29
uatever*i tried22:30
Dr_WillisMeris:  looking at the cases now. :) Some are able to work.. but i got some just released shows that i cant even watch on my windows pcs ;(22:30
MerisDr_Willis, I recently bought a R1 DVD by mistake. I had to decrypt the bloody thing to able to watch it, Region Coding is madness...22:30
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uateverlast time it was wierd noises on my speakers on digital output now its not like i have non-supported hardware22:31
uateverubuntu never quite works well... always the same thing22:31
matts45acpcan somone here tell me how to install the encryption pagages for playing dvd monies in the movie player?22:32
Dr_WillisMeris:  these are for my region.. they just wouldent play in the wifes old dvd player, or any pc i tried.22:32
Dr_Willismatts45acp:  i gave you the DVD url earlier..22:32
Dr_Willis!dvd | matts45acp22:32
matts45acpoh sorry did not see it22:32
Merisuatever, what kind of Audio chipset do you use?22:32
Dr_Willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs22:32
matts45acpwhats was it again22:32
uateverits realtek onboard22:33
histouatever: what is the problem now?  sound?22:33
uateverbut right now thats not even the problem its the ATI drivers not installing properly...22:33
uatevermanaged to install the drivers the non updated version22:33
uateverand it wont even let me set my tv to full HD22:33
histouatever: what do you mean by the non updated version?22:34
uateverand recognizes it as a 7" display?22:34
uateverthe drivers that are default with this distro i guess22:34
MerisDr_Willis, try DVDFab, it runs through Wine. If it's legal to decrypt it for home use depends on your local law.22:34
Guest83188Does anybody know the differences between head , branch , trunk of a repository software like cvs stand for and when to uses them22:34
Guest83188 my understanding is head is the current bleeding edge22:34
Guest83188 don't know about the others though22:34
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Dr_WillisMeris:  these disks were to new for dvdfab to work on them. :) it did work on some older disks..22:35
krababbeluatever: handshake problems on digital tvs are a whole other problem22:35
histouatever: press the windows key and type in drivers click on additional drivers and install the drivers for your ATI card22:35
Dr_WillisMeris:  i was impressed with dvdfab and how well it worked.. but i couldent figure out its priceing/licensing to buy it, :)22:35
krababbeluatever: so is the format problem on digital outputs22:35
MerisDr_Willis, whoa, must be a really popular series than, DRM hurts the wrong people, it should be abolished.22:36
MerisDr_Willis, than => then22:36
uateverhisto already did...22:36
Dr_WillisMeris:  i doubt if very many people wanted to pirate 'The courtship of eddies father season 1'22:36
histouatever: and did you activate the ati driver from there?22:36
uateveryes22:36
uateverand rebooted22:36
krababbeluatever: what about that log? did you pastebin it?22:36
Dr_WillisMeris:  or 'the love boat season 1'  (yes my wife wanted weird shows)22:37
histouatever: and the problem was?22:37
uateverrequired virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3600, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)22:37
pinkuson the Ubuntu mini.iso, there is a step where it asks which kernel to install. There is a list of like 20 of them. Does it matter too much which kernel? I have a 64 bit corei7, so maybe the "linux generic" or the "linux image generic", or maybe the "linux image 3.2.0.29-generic"?22:37
uateverits not recognizing my tv properly... saying its a 7" display22:37
MerisDr_Willis, Love Boat, do they protect it that harshly that it wouldn't even play on your wife's old DVD player? That's ludicrous...22:37
pinkus"linux generic" was the kernel that is at the top and was highlighted by default.22:38
beata|lemurI'm looking for help in backporting some things (for now cups and dependencies), according to the pbuilder HOWTO. *most* of it is going well but I'm running into some weirder errors (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1170756/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1170511/ currently). Am researching the latter, but suggestions?22:38
MerisDr_Willis, you should have returned the set, telling them that it's not a DVD.22:38
histouatever: is the tv connected via hdmi?22:38
Dr_WillisMeris:  She wanted it....   I went and bought a new blueray player for her to use.. :)22:39
MerisDr_Willis, well, vote with your wallet, I'd say. I would have searched for another edition instead.22:39
uateveryes histo22:39
convivialhi.22:40
Merisconvivial, hi, please state your question22:40
Dr_WillisMeris:  there is none.. and last i looked at teh stores Most all the new releases  have some sort of protection.22:40
convivialdoes 12.x support mutlimonitors? it is a pain with 11.x22:40
histouatever: you may have better luck using the driver directly from ati if you are continuing to experience issues with the one from hardware drivers. I'm not that familiar with ati hardware perhaps someone else has an idea22:40
Dr_Willisconvivial:  depends on your video chipset. Multi Monitor nvidia works great for me.. has for years22:40
Merisconvivial, that really depends on your GPU rather then the Desktop you choose.22:40
conviviali have dual chip sets22:40
convivialintel and nvidia22:41
Merisconvivial,  sounds like a MacBook Pro, right?22:41
uateveris gnome having problems with nvidia again?22:41
uatever*ati i mean22:41
convivialit is a lenovo w52022:41
histouatever: keep in mind that a lot of TVs have issues with the way the report over HDMI has been my experience22:41
uateverit used to work with kubuntu22:42
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uateverlike 1 year ago22:42
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histouatever: what card do you ahve exactly?22:42
uateveri just installed the drivers it asked me and i never had a problem with it22:42
uateverhd577022:42
uatevervaporx22:42
Merisconvivial, that should work after you have installed the nvidia-settings panel and adjusted it to your monitor setup.22:42
convivialok22:43
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Guest98166http://depositfiles.com/files/1jb9j7vih22:43
Merisconvivial, What desktop environment do you use? Unity, Gnome3, XFCE, LXDE?22:43
convivialunity22:44
Merisconvivial, in that case, after you have adjusted the settings in the nVidia control panel, you can use the unity settings: Screens to tell Unity if you want the Unity bar on only one screen or both.22:45
histouatever: I would ask your question again about the resolution problem in one line so that others can see it. Someone else maybe able to provide more help.22:47
RajviHello Everyone, Greetings from India!!22:47
Merisuatever, if you have a multi-line response, a link to a pastebin would be ideal.22:47
MerisRajvi, thanks likewise,  how can we help you?22:48
RajviSimple question, If i let 12..04 to auto-login, then i need to unlocl the keyring each time,its annoyong.How can i avoid this?22:49
sindilei am trying to play this http://wbls.com/pages/3874639.php with rhythmbox - getting error missing plugin any ideas o how to resolve this22:51
Dr_Willisyou can set the keyring with a blank password..22:51
MerisRajvi, sorry, can't help you on that dues to lack of experience with that setting on 12.04. I've used it at a client's place in 10,04. It worked perfectly then.22:51
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/65281/how-to-recover-reset-forgotten-gnome-keyring-password22:52
RajviMy issue is that : I don't want to unlock the keyring each time I login, however if I set 12.04 to NOT to auto-login, then I don't get the prompt to enter the login keyring.22:53
histoRajvi: remove the keyring password22:53
Dr_Willissounds like a security feature to me... if you never want to enter a password for the keyring ever.. set it to be blank22:53
RajviHow to remove the keyring?22:53
Dr_Willissee the url i pasted above.....22:53
malcolm91I am having so many problems with ubuntu. please help.22:54
Dr_Willisyou set the password to be blank  which makes it use 'unsafe storage' so it never asks22:54
RajviThanks!!22:55
histoRajvi: Rajvi applications > passwords and keys  set the password to blank22:55
uateverthink im gonna quickly jump onto fedora and see if i have the same problems there also..22:55
RajviIf i disable the keyring, then i believe I would have to enter the password for each application, am I correct?22:56
Dr_WillisRajvi:  you are NOT disabling the keyring.. you are setting where it unlocks automatically22:56
WeThePeoplemalcolm91, ask your questions22:56
malcolm91WeThePeople, I can't right click, watch netflix, or watch youtube.22:57
NicolasCage_is it normal for th eprocessor to be 50-60% all the time? im on ubuntu, with unity. and the same was happenning on xfce.22:57
Zeptismalcolm: I can answer two of those22:57
histoRajvi: dont' disable the keyring just set a blank passowrd22:57
WeThePeoplemalcolm91, so the right click menu wont come up?22:58
histomalcolm91: At the moment you cannot watch netflix in linux22:58
Zeptismalcolm: Netflix uses microsoft silverlight; as such, there will never be a linux client22:58
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histoZeptis: yes there will be22:58
histoZeptis: they already have one for chrome os22:58
RajviI believe we have moonlight;)22:58
malcolm91Zeptis, Please do, but I am computer illiterate, and the forums do nothing for me.22:59
malcolm91WeThePeople, right.22:59
WeThePeoplemalcolm91, what are you clicking over22:59
Merismalcolm91, what kind of computer do you have?22:59
NicolasCage_is it normal for the processor to be 50-60% all the time? im on ubuntu, with unity. and the same was happenning on xfce.23:00
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Zeptisdid you install Flash (or a GPL variant) for your browser (Youtube problem)?23:00
malcolm91I have an asus A5523:00
alex20032I am currently following an electronic course... (well, all my course are electronic) And I was wondering what is the best simulation & schemantic sofware to make circuit... Under *nix23:00
ZeptisNicolasCage_: no, have you run htop yet?23:00
NicolasCage_I forgot about htop.23:00
RajviWhen I login to the recovery console, the disks are mounted as 'ro' as default, Is it expected?23:01
alex20032I found many program to make circuit, but most of them are very weak on simulation23:01
Merismalcolm91, is that a laptop, or are you describing the motherboard model?23:01
matts45acpcan someone tell me if its posible to stream netflix in ubuntu?23:01
histoRajvi: did you set your keyring password as blank?23:01
NicolasCage_im installing htop now.23:01
malcolm91Meris, it's a laptop.23:02
Zeptisappearantly, chromium + moonlight does it, matts4523:02
matts45acpwhere i get moonlight23:02
histoZeptis: No it doens't as far as I know23:02
Vyla2hey there, is that a way i can check if i'm using the integrated graphic of the motherboard or of the CPU?23:02
Zeptissomeone said chrome does it a couple of minutes ago23:03
histomatts45acp: there is no way to do it with linux.23:03
histoZeptis: chrome OS does it23:03
WeThePeoplematts45acp, http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_watch_Netflix_(Watch_Instantly)_in_Linux23:03
Zeptisgood point histo23:03
Dr_Willismoonlight wont let you play DRM protected video streams23:03
* Zeptis remembers to read more carefully and take his ritilan23:03
Merismalcom91, on what are you right-clicking? Not every program has separate right-click functions.23:04
malcolm91Meris, it doesn't work for anything. word, chrome. it acts as a left click.23:05
histoZeptis: I should clarify that Chrome OS installed on official hardware works. like chromebooks23:06
coldkey21Zeptis: netflix will run on the chrome OS but not in the browser on ubuntu23:06
Merismalcolm, have you tried plugging in a mouse instead of using the touchpad?23:06
Zeptishisto: but then you're a part of the google chrome botnet /tinfoil23:06
matts45acpwethepeople, so i have to use a virtual machine huh?23:06
WeThePeoplei guess23:06
histomatts45acp: yes23:06
matts45acpwethepeople, if i have to do that then forget it, thanx though23:07
histomatts45acp: http://www.howtogeek.com/119204/how-to-watch-netflix-on-linux/23:07
Merismalcolm91, have you tried plugging in a mouse instead of using the builtin touchpad?23:07
histomatts45acp: covers running a vm23:07
malcolm91Meris, yes, and it works, but it is not always convenient.23:07
histomatts45acp: amazon video works in linux23:07
matts45acphisto, how about cinema now will that work?23:07
Dr_Willischeaper to get a little roku or somthing. :)23:08
Merismalcolm, could you please open a terminal screen and pastebin the output of lspci and lsusb?23:08
malcolm91Meris, I have no idea what that means.23:09
Merismalcolm91, ^the terminal looks like a black computer screen, with a >23:09
Merismalcolm91, try Ctrl+Alt+T to open a terminal screen23:09
malcolm91now what.23:10
Merismalcolm91, now please enter the following command, followed by [Enter] and post the output on a pastebin23:10
Merispastebin! | malcolm9123:11
zohjzhello, i'm trying to recover a WEP password, does someone have a good recent tutorial about that?23:11
zohjzthe aircrack-ng package seems outdated according to apt-get23:11
Meris!pastebin | malcolm9123:11
ubottumalcolm91: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:11
malcolm91Meris, what command?23:12
Dr_Williszohjz:  thats not really supriseing. there may be newer PPA's for it.23:12
Dr_Willis!ppa | zohjz23:12
ubottuzohjz: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge23:12
WeThePeoplemalcolm, lspci and lsusb23:12
WeThePeoplemalcolm, type lspci then press enter23:13
Merismalcolm91, my, I must be getting sleepy... Sorry about that. The first command is lspci and the second is lsusb23:13
Zeptishmm, edev seems to be having some sort of problem.23:13
WeThePeoplemalcolm, then type lsusb and press enter23:13
trond-In Xorg.0.log I see the following: http://pastebin.com/CkGFEznE ... Is this a Good thing? And I am refering to the two/three  intel loading/unloading lines.23:13
WeThePeoplemalcolm, copy and paste to http://pastebin.com23:13
MerisWeThePeople, thank you for providing the long version of the instructions23:14
Zeptistrond-: I'm having a simliar problem, it would seem23:14
WeThePeopleidk23:14
trond-Zeptis, what are the symptoms of your problems? :)23:15
Zeptiswell, X sends an exit signal to Openbox erratically, and I think it has something to do with edev.23:15
malcolm91WeThePeople, how do i paste it here?23:16
WeThePeoplemalcolm, i think crl + v23:17
WeThePeoplectrl*23:17
ZeptisI wish I knew a lot more about rc's but they're not very friendly to being configured.23:17
WeThePeoplemalcolm, you can use the keyboard for these functions23:17
malcolm91WeThePeople, i tried that, but nothing.23:18
Merismalcolm91, put please only paste the *link* to the pastebin page that has been generated for you.23:18
WeThePeoplemalcolm, you will see it in the URL bar after you hit submit23:18
WeThePeopleits magic23:18
jack_sparrowA friend just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and it is now not accepting his password.  Capslock is not on .  any suggestions on what happened?23:19
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WeThePeoplemalcolm91, see above23:20
FlipStonEhello... i have a question, and i can't find the solution :-)23:21
WeThePeopleflipstone, wazup23:21
FlipStonEflash player ask me to increase local storage, but i can't click accept23:21
FlipStonEi've looked adobe site with their storage manager, not seems to work23:21
AethrsAfter upgrading to 12.04, gnome-classic sets desktops to "1", and won't save any changes I make to this attribute.23:23
AethrsAny solution?  This is completely ruining my use of ubuntu.23:23
AethrsI've found others mentioning this problem online, but no solutions.23:24
zohjzDr_Willis: can't find a ppa for it23:26
malcolm91I am so lost.23:26
WeThePeopleflipstone, what menu are you under for the flash increase23:26
Zeptis>>GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read.23:26
zohjzDr_Willis: i don't get it, according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aircrack-ng, it should be supported23:26
WeThePeopleflipstone, is this for viewing youtube vids23:27
Merismalcolm91, I am a helpdesk support agent, I'll try to help through a PM23:27
FlipStonEWeThePeople, no, for swf instances i run local23:29
malcolm91Meris, how do i go to the pm?23:29
IronSightWhat's the proper way to stop the xserver? I use... litedm I am trying to install the latest nvidia driver :/23:29
WeThePeoplemalcolm91, he will pm you23:29
Merismalcolm91, just double click on my name in your chat program23:30
IronSight(not using the one in the repo)23:30
jrib!nvidia > IronSight23:30
ubottuIronSight, please see my private message23:30
owlerHello all, I somehow turned thes ound off my laptop. I tried alsamixer and selecting different sound cards and boosting the volume, but no dice. Furthermore, nothing is on mute. I also used the GUI for the sound and all levels are up--still no sound23:30
Zeptisoh cool23:30
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Zeptis!nvidia > Zeptis23:30
ubottuZeptis, please see my private message23:30
jribowler: check pavucontrol maybe :x23:30
AethrsWhat other desktop environments does ubuntu have, besides unity?  Since gnome-classic is broken and no one has a suggestion.23:30
jrib!nounity | Aethrs23:31
ubottuAethrs: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic23:31
IronSightjrib, yeah, thing is... I want the newer driver, and all I really want to know is how to shut down X so I can work on it in a terminal :/23:31
Aethrsjrib- gnome-shell is broken for me...badly.23:31
Aethrsjrib- For other people, too.23:31
jribAethrs: there's also lubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, and a million other minimal window managers23:31
hylianAethrs: gnome-classic stopeed functioning for you? i would also suggest xfce and lxde. lxde is very simple, but that's what I like about it.23:31
Aethrsjrib- I've removed the configuration directories23:31
Aethrslbuntu kubuntu are distributions, right?23:32
AethrsIs there a way to install kde?23:32
ZeptisAethrs: and xbuntu, yes23:32
jrib!kde | Aethrs23:32
ubottuAethrs: KDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.23:32
neodemidoes anyone know of a logfile or program that would show me whats causing random intense disc activity spikes?23:32
IronSightback in the day all it would take would be... sudo stop gdm or whatever...23:32
peterrusIronSight,23:32
peterrusits simple ;)23:32
jribIronSight: it's still the same.  But you should really read the information ubottu sent you23:32
peterrussudo service lightdm stop23:32
IronSightthanks23:32
hylianAethrs: yes. but you can install lxde and xfce straight from your installed ubuntu distro. the only real differeces is a "pretty pack" for each desktop.23:32
Zeptiskubuntu isn't very well maintained, though23:32
AethrsI'll give kde a try.23:32
AethrsI like gnome & kde.. It's just gnome is badly, badly broken for some reason.23:33
peterrusZeptis, is it?23:33
AethrsDesktops are stuck at 1.23:33
AethrsAnd it won't retain changes to that.23:33
neodemiive tried having iotop run, but havent been able to catch whatever has caused the spikes yet23:33
hylianAethrs: you can do what you want ofcoarse, but the last desktop environment I would install is kde. it makes unity look no buggy by comparison23:33
Aethrshttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+question/198906 ..basically.23:33
Zeptispeterrus: muon is broken, and the package manager doesn't work.23:33
Zeptisyou have to dpkg all the time23:33
peterrusthats bad23:33
Zeptisyou might as well use Debian + KDE23:33
peterruswhat is muon?23:34
Aethrshylian- I just detest the look of unity.  Too much wasted space, reminds me of windows.23:34
Zeptisit's supposed to be the KDE software manager, but it's very bad.23:34
peterrusstrange23:34
peterrusit is rather optimized for small screens Aethrs23:34
hylianAethrs: mee too! i am a huge fan of lxde for that reason. lxde and xfce have a gnome 2 feel to them.23:34
AethrsThere's a huge bar of icons23:34
peterrusalso my experience with kubuntu the last years was bad indeed23:34
peterrusgnome3 is nice too, but really for the poweruser23:35
AethrsHmm23:35
AethrsMaybe I can try gnome323:35
AethrsI just want my 8 virtual desktops23:35
peterrusunity does well for me, especially with the keyboard shortcuts and gesture support (multitouch)23:35
AethrsHot keys for everything23:35
peterrusAethrs, I have never needed that XD23:35
AethrsAnd no gigantic unity taskbar of doom taking up all available real estate.23:35
ZeptisI'm using Ubu without Lightdm or Unity, just X-->Openbox right now; however, now I need some video drivers because the nouveau ones aren't loading properly23:35
peterrusthen make it smaller?23:35
AethrsCan I resize it to 0 ?23:36
peterrusyou can autohide it23:36
peterrusyou can't really do without23:36
AethrsI really detest it existing at all.23:36
hylianAethrs: gnome3 hides its bar until you need it, so i can see the attraction there.23:36
peterrusthen try gnome 323:36
peterrusindeed23:36
wan26I use unity, but is there a way yet to move the side launcher to the bottom (i have looked at forums) without tinkering with it myself and ruining my machine?23:36
ZeptisAethrs: sudo apt-get purge unity*23:36
AethrsI already issued the kde desktop install23:36
Zeptisgood luck23:36
peterruswan26, not really23:36
AethrsZeptis- Thanks, I'll run that after :)23:36
hylianAethrs: you will need to remember the alt key if you want to shutdown. (or just log out and then shut down.)23:37
Aethrshylian- Alt key?23:37
wan26That's a shame.23:37
AethrsI read something about needing the alt key.. What's it do in that context?23:37
peterrushttp://www.h-online.com/open/features/Unity-alternatives-the-many-desktops-of-Ubuntu-1614860.html23:37
hylianAethrs: yes, in gnome3 you need to hold down the alt key in the log off menu to get the option to shut down23:37
peterrusAethrs, have a look at cinamon23:38
peterrusnever tired it myself though23:38
Aethrspeterrus- That's great, thank you :)23:38
peterrusEnlightenment is also quite nice23:38
* hylian is using mint too, peterrus! very good!23:38
peterrushttp://www.enlightenment.org/23:38
peterrushylian, I am not ;) but hey, I tried23:38
AethrsI remember when enlightenment came out haha23:38
peterrusyes, I ran it a while ago in netbook mode23:38
peterrusor small screen mode23:38
peterrusI was quite impressed23:38
hylianAethrs: e17 is a disaster in ubuntu though... very buggy and crashy. too bad, such a nice desktop when it is stable.23:39
Congdoes ubuntu understand autorun.inf?23:39
WeThePeopleenlightenment is over rated23:39
peterrusCong, no23:39
h22turboquick (noob) question.... i have Ubuntu 12.04 lts installed. im using gnome fallback session. what themes can i use/install? i see a bunch of themes for unity and gnome shell (3.x) but not sure what i can install. im have both gtk 2 and 3 installed....23:39
peterrusyou can install any gtk3 theme23:39
h22turbodo i just need a gtk 2.x or 3.x theme?23:40
peterrus323:40
Congpeterus, how come my usb drive icon is change then?23:40
peterrusprobably23:40
hylianCong: i don't think so. if your trying to run a windows cd, i ususally go into the cd itself and run the exe or com file for starting the software...23:40
peterrusCong, alright it might understand that indeed23:40
h22turboi was lookin around on the net... and it looked like the themes were only for unity or gnome shell... and didnt mention it would work with fallback23:40
Zeptishow does one take a screenshot of X from CLI?23:40
yggdrasilwha replaces apt-get install gcc-3.4 ?23:40
* hylian is lovin Bellamy Brothers - Old Hippie23:41
h22turboyggdrasil: apt-cache search gcc-323:41
yggdrasilmhmm23:41
yggdrasilhylian: nice.23:41
h22turboor syn package manager should tell u23:41
yhagerWhat's the most painless way to install boost>1.46 on 11.10?23:41
Congpeterus, I don't understand. are you saying it will change the icon.23:42
mhalligandoes anyone know if there's som special magic towards getting hostname -f to work in ubuntu?23:42
hylianyggdrasil: type this in console to listen with me: mplayer http://108.61.73.119:801823:42
peterrusyhager, I would say build it23:42
yggdrasilokay23:42
yhagerpeterrus: okay, thx23:42
h22turbopeterrus: thanks23:43
BoomerBilewhat package pulls in all of the autotools? (automake, aclocal, etc) ?23:43
h22turboBoomerBile: build-essentials23:43
BoomerBileh22turbo: hmm cause it didn't work23:43
Congdoes autorun.inf change the icon of usb drives or not23:43
yggdrasilhylian: nice.23:44
BoomerBileh22turbo: aclocal: command not found23:44
yggdrasilim a harmonica player23:44
yggdrasil:)23:44
hylianyggdrasil: the song was over too fast though. this is the highway 181 channel from 181.fm.23:44
yggdrasilmhm.23:44
yggdrasili caught just the end, had to apte get it.23:44
krababbelradiotray rocks23:45
hylianyggdrasil: yeah, this is my fave shoutcast radio channel. i love old country.23:45
yggdrasilits ok,23:46
yggdrasilive been listening to alot lately, trying to write a song23:46
yggdrasila country song.23:46
matts45acpcan someone tell me what the best movie player is in ubuntu?23:46
hylianugh, commercials...23:46
yggdrasilmatts45acp: vlc ?23:46
Zeptisdefine best, matts4523:46
h22turboBoomerBile: automake is what u need23:46
szal!best | matts45acp23:47
ubottumatts45acp: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.23:47
yggdrasiltry vlc23:47
yggdrasilyoull like it23:47
h22turboBoomerBile: apt-cache search automake23:47
BoomerBilethanks h22turbo23:47
Congmatts, totem23:47
hylianmatts45acp: i like totem. some people like vlc. i think it's mostly just a matter of taste though.23:47
ZeptisVLC did stop being bad23:47
Zeptishylian: does totem do 10bit?23:47
Congvlc is still evil23:47
h22turbotheres a few different versions of automake tho23:47
szalZeptis: 10bit?23:47
h22turbo1.4, 1.7, 1.923:47
h22turbo1.1023:47
BoomerBileyeah, i'll take the newest thanks23:48
peterrusAethrs, Zeptis https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/UkoAaLDpF4i  ;)23:48
hylianZeptis: don't know, no one ever asked me that before. 10 bit video stream?23:48
BoomerBile:D23:48
Zeptis10bit video color encode, instead of 8bit, Szal23:48
ZeptisAKA Weeaboo AVI23:48
BoomerBilei'm trying to build my c++ application in ubuntu, ubuntu is installed on an android phone23:48
BoomerBilei'm just steps away from finally getting it to work23:48
h22turbonice23:49
h22turboi have ubuntu on my Samsung Mesmerize also23:49
FlipStonEok, workaround for the flash problem... now you can increase flash storage 2 ways... global storage and website storage... in website storage you'll find website called local, click on it, and you can change value... restart browser and tadaaaaaam, it works... website: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html23:49
hylianZeptis: i couldn't find anything that said totem doesn't, but i did find that vlc absolutely does, according to a forum23:49
BoomerBilecool, h22turbo, samsung stratosphere here23:49
Zeptisokay.23:49
ZeptisJapan TV does 10bit encode on color23:50
h22turboi love ubuntu linux... even tho everyone calls it "noob linux"23:50
BoomerBilei call it faster than compiling gentoo, which is my main distro23:50
peterrusI call #care23:51
h22turbobut, those people that call it "noob linux" are usually windows people... and dont know anything about linux23:51
peterrusindeed23:51
BoomerBileh22turbo: indeed23:51
peterrusand let them spend all there time reinventing the wheel xD23:51
hylianZeptis: here's the straight poop: Dec 26, 2011 ... Totem unfortunately doesn't support 10-bit encoded x264 videos yet. If you want to play those videos, you'll need to use a different video player ...23:51
Dr_Willis'Polished Pangolin' describes it well...23:51
peterrusI'll just stick to a properly maintained distro and have some time to go out and have fun23:51
KM0201I'm not particularly a fan of Ubuntu, but i like it because unlike some other distros I use, everything "just works" and i don't spend an hour or so setting it up.23:51
peterrusPrecise* Dr_Willis23:52
KM0201that's particularly important on my laptop.23:52
Jordan_U!ot23:52
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:52
KM0201..23:52
peterrus0_023:52
hylianKM0201: i agree. for most people it is a install and it runs distro.23:52
peterrus!dbad23:52
Dr_Willispeterrus:  it was called polished in many of the press reports from caonical. because of the amount of polish they tried to put into the relwease23:52
h22turboive honestly tried other distros... and i always come back to ubuntu cause its the best imo23:52
peterrusI see23:52
peterruswell lets not get offtopic now23:53
backboxhi guys23:53
BoomerBileit's the best put together _pre-built_ linux i can find23:53
peterrus/j #ubuntu-offtopic23:53
* hylian is jiving to highway 181 old country - http://108.61.73.119:801823:53
ZeptisSeconding boomerbile, although it's a bitch to take apart23:53
backboxwhat's a keylogger?23:53
Dr_Willisbackbox:  a gizmo that records your key presses.23:54
BoomerBilewoot! now i just need to get sdl compiled and my game will work on android, thanks h22turbo , gotta run and eat supper23:54
backboxanyone know the meaning of keylogger?23:54
hylianbackbox: a program that records everything you type without your knowledge., or i should say without the users knowledge.23:54
Dr_Willisbackbox:  i imagine Wikipedia does...23:54
WeThePeoplebackbox, it is a hidden software porgram23:54
WeThePeopleto record keystrokes23:54
ZeptisBackbox: see Dr_Willis' first post to you23:54
Dr_Willis'logs keys' ;)23:54
backboxinteresting23:54
WeThePeoplebackbox, hackers use keyloggers23:55
backboxin which way i can install a keylogger in a notebook?23:55
Dr_Willisbackbox:  if you have to ask.. you most likely dont need to...23:55
Jordan_Ubackbox: What is your end goal?23:55
Congcan keylogging be down on ubuntu like in Windows?23:55
hylianbackbox: there are usually many to choose from. as long as you have acces to said notebook. I would hope your using it for non nefarious purposes...23:55
ZeptisCong: possible, but needs a DKM or root-pass to do anything23:56
ZeptisCong: that is to say, a lot harder to do than in any Windows23:56
Zeptisfrom the net, at least23:56
Zeptisusb drives work23:56
backboxi want know what my friend do whit my notebook23:56
Congone thing at a time then23:57
Zeptisbackbox: just reinstall already23:57
KM0201backbox: you could easily say "my friend will do nothing w/ my netbook" by not giving it to him?23:57
Dr_Willisor making them use the guest account23:57
KM0201that to.23:57
backboxbecause they are in my home23:57
hylianbackbox: i would start by google-ing ubuntu keylogger. but it will be a lot harder in ubuntu. linux is supposed to be more secure, not less.23:57
backboxi have windows 723:58
backbox64bit23:58
v0lksmanI just installed fancontrol but now I want to uninstall it and go back to the "default" remove --purge isn't doing it...any ideas/23:58
v0lksman?23:58
WeThePeoplev0lksman, use autoremove23:58
hylianv0lksman: sudo apt-get remove fancontrol?23:58
Jordan_Ubackbox: This is #ubuntu, the support channel for the GNU/Linux distribution Ubuntu. Does your question relate to Ubuntu in any way?23:59
WeThePeople-purge only removes old files of the same program after updates23:59
hylianv0lksman: i would follow WeThePeople's idea.23:59
ZeptisOur story thus far: backbox, for the 3rd time, comes here looking for ways to remove a sinister kernel module his friend installed.23:59
v0lksmannadda...I need the default ubuntu fan behavior restored. removing the package isn't the problem23:59

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