[00:00] alexbOrsova: I saw that.. great... now write it up so we know what you did [00:00] Ahmuck: I doubt it [00:00] how do i get it to run nvidia.ko? the error says no such device [00:00] Ahmuck: what exactly are you trying to do [00:00] Jack_Sparrow: right... [00:00] hola alguien sabe de algun editor para formulas es que con el que trae integrado el openofice me estoy tardando años gracias [00:00] Ahmuck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy [00:00] soory [00:01] Is there any other tool to mess with cellphones other than bitpim? [00:01] !cellphone [00:01] Sorry, I don't know anything about cellphone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [00:01] FluxD: what's wrong with bitpim [00:01] !mobile [00:01] Learn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded [00:01] Ahmuck: syslinux can probably do it [00:01] soccer_hawk10: doesnt support my phone [00:01] Ahmuck: although why you'd want to.... [00:01] fluxd: ah, that would be a problem, yes :) [00:01] :) [00:02] !bluetooth [00:02] For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [00:02] !phone [00:02] Sorry, I don't know anything about phone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [00:02] and no bluetooth support :) [00:02] how do i get it to run nvidia.ko? the error says no such device [00:02] is it an old phone? [00:02] runemaste644: what do you mean by run, it's a kernel module [00:02] soccer_hawk10: not really the features in it are really not that great [00:02] hi, can someone help me please [00:03] yes, but it says no such device [00:03] !question [00:03] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [00:03] Is there a brainf*ck compiler? I can only find interpreters so far. [00:03] !language | eugene1 [00:03] eugene1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [00:03] hello [00:03] it's a language, not swearing [00:03] I love ubuntu [00:04] and /ame should be used very sparingly, especially if you're in more than a two channels. [00:04] eugene1: I think it's an interpreted language. No compilers that I know of. [00:04] hi, can someone help me please, im trying to give a vmware machine my second HD but it doesnt take it [00:04] Well I used an asterisk. How many is necessary to nto be swearing? [00:04] soundray: ah ok [00:04] vishal_: try in #vmware [00:05] eugene1: indeed [00:05] Jack_Sparrow: thanks [00:05] eugene1: it's an interpreted language - iirc the wikipedia entry for it is rather useful, although I've not looked at it for a while [00:05] vishal_: They will know more than we do [00:05] hi, can i emulate leopard in linux (by qemu) , i have a legal way but i should know is wemu capable? [00:05] how do I apply an emerald theme ? [00:05] can someone please help me with nvidia.ko [00:05] it complains about no such device [00:06] using sdparm --set=SCT = what number would I put in to make it spin down every 1 if not active? [00:06] wemu = qemu [00:06] how can i find out my default network interface name [00:06] can someone help me find the cause of ubuntu 7.10 randomly freezing? i don't know where to start [00:06] do i need to make it use the nvidia_new [00:06] slugone: ifconfig [00:06] I am trying to enable SHMConfig for my touchpad, but it's not working. The entry in xorg.conf is correct. How can I enable this? [00:06] bys :D everybody has problems.. no answer :D [00:06] mular: to spin down your hard disk(s), you should configure laptop-mode-tools [00:07] u rule red typing ppl [00:07] soccer_hawk10: Have you used NON-ubuntu repos... what all have you installed.. is this a laptop or desktop etc [00:07] Eagleray: confirm that your entry is working by checking out /var/log/Xorg.0.log [00:07] mular: edit /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf [00:07] hey all can some one help me with a problem with mouseemu, i have a touchpad on my dell inspron1420 and when i install mouseemu my touchpad stops working.. the buttons work but no motion off the touchpad..any ideas any one? [00:07] !clone | jac [00:07] jac: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate [00:07] soundray, see I have a my book premium and it is set to spin down defaultly every 10mins [00:07] and /ame should be used very sparingly, especially if you're in more than a two channels. [00:07] I want to make it an hour.. I just don't know what the timer is with sdparm --set=SCT [00:08] jack_sparrow: as far as i know, everything i've installed is from ubuntu's repos... i feel like compiz is causing it but i don't know why i get this feeling. this is a desktop pc [00:08] -S [00:08] --set SCT= [00:08] Standby condition timer, has 5 second units (roughly) while has 100 ms units thats from the how to [00:08] how do i make xorg use nvidia_new.ko instead of nvidia.ko? [00:08] but I don't know what that means lol [00:08] Jack_Sparrow: there is no-one replying there, I think its something to do with the permissions or something, can you help? === poeloq_ is now known as poeloq [00:08] soccer_hawk10: have you tried turning off effects? [00:08] hey, if you get jinxed, are you still allowed to type? [00:09] vishal_: no.. sorry I cant help with v-anything [00:09] maddash: interesting - it's loading, but seems to think there is no synaptics touchpad in this laptop [00:09] because it's still talking, kinda [00:09] Uh...um..uh sorry...about that...um amsg that was of no use...um...yeah...ok...thats enugh of that [00:09] maddash: then it unloads the module again [00:09] ozzloy: i guess so [00:09] ozzloy: well I'm pretty sure you are allowed to write stuff. [00:09] Jack_Sparrow: well, the trouble with that is that i can't guess when these things will freeze [00:09] mular: what's a "my book premium"? [00:09] alexb0rsova: no dice. with and without noapic+rghb in recovery mode, running /etc/init.d/gdm start or just startx turns the screen permanently black (and i can't get the error msgs because i'm in runlevel S.) [00:09] maddash: "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep -i synaptic" was the command [00:09] how do i get AWN on, and how? [00:09] soccer_hawk10: Worth your time to turn it off and wait then.. [00:09] runemaste644: eugene1 thanks! [00:09] can anybody help me assign an entire disk to a vmware machine please? [00:09] Eagleray: then you ought to change your "Driver ' synaptics ' " entry === eugene1 is now known as eugman [00:10] Eagleray: er, try grepping -i for shm [00:10] Jack_Sparrow: well, the thing is, i never had trouble until i changed my screen resolution... [00:10] soundray: its an external hard drive ;) [00:10] usb connect [00:10] Jack_Sparrow: i don't know if that's what caused it or what... and i really love compiz, i'd kill me to remove it [00:11] maddash: change to what, it's a synaptics touchpad [00:11] soccer_hawk10: those "Cute Effects" can cause a multitude of problems... === maco_ is now known as macogw [00:11] Jack_Sparrow: do you use them? [00:11] how do i go about removing apache2 off my ubuntu server? [00:11] maddash: it's also complaining about the event device not existing (I don't have it compiled into this kernel), yet the touchpad works just fine === Kin_Away is now known as KinPumpkinKing [00:11] Anyone get an aircard working with Gutsy? [00:11] how do i make xorg use nvidia_new.ko instead of nvidia.ko? [00:11] soccer_hawk10: Then I cant help you.. turn off the effects long enough to see if that is the problem... But I seem to remember looking at your sources page and you have installed things from outside the repos [00:11] maddash: grepping for shm says it's loading fine and has no problems [00:12] mular: you can't influence the spindown timer on those with sdparm. [00:12] Jack_Sparrow: i don't think you've seen my sources page since i've never posted it... [00:12] anathematic: sudo aptitude remove apache2 surely [00:12] Looks like the device is recognized. I just don't know where to go after I plug it in. [00:12] soccer_hawk10: Must have been a similar nick.. [00:12] Does gusty nfs default to udp or tcp? [00:12] read on google that people have? hrm [00:12] bruce89: what if it was complied from source? [00:12] just they wanted the spin down lowered =/ [00:12] ah [00:12] Eagleray: then your shmconfig is working and something else is wrong. if you're curious as to what driver you have, look in /sys/class/input/ [00:13] hey [00:13] how do i make xorg use nvidia_new.ko instead of nvidia.ko? [00:13] any1 asleep ? [00:13] anathematic: sudo make uninstall [00:13] need help :) [00:13] how do i actually boot into the os [00:13] soccer_hawk10: with tens of thousands of lines in here per day... I sometimes get confused.. [00:13] runemaste644: do a 'mv' switcheroo? [00:13] bruce89: sorry, where do i preform t hat command? [00:13] hopefully you still have the source [00:13] Jack_Sparrow: don't sweat it, i know you're just trying to help [00:13] oh dear. [00:13] has anyone had any success with sonix sn9c325 chipset usb webcam? [00:13] anathematic: in the apache2's source directory [00:14] * nickrud thought sparrows had excellent eyesight [00:14] maddash: not a good idea [00:14] hi, running gdm turns the monitor permanently black, i can no longer switch to tty1. can still ssh, etc. anyone know how to get graphics running? [00:14] mular: the scheme is described in man hdparm. You probably want to set 242 [00:14] maddash: doesn't tell me - I have entries for input0...input7, mice, mouse0 and mouse1 [00:14] runemaste644: because...? [00:14] bruce89: so /etc/apache2/ right? (sorry not too familiar with this) [00:14] maddash: but nothing to indicate which driver it's trying to use [00:14] does anyone know what .xpt file is and what I might be able to open it with? [00:14] nickrud: but poor memory.. so it seems [00:14] mular: but like I said, I'd be surprised if it works... [00:14] it could really screw stuff up [00:14] anathematic: I assume you installed it with sudo make install [00:14] michael_: Checked the xorg log? [00:14] i want to create a boot floppy to boot ubuntu JeOS [00:14] Eagleray: because you're not looking hard enough. Hint: 'cat driver' in the subfolders. [00:14] michael_, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg for a default setup [00:15] I installed devilspie . what i want to do is when i open the gnome terminal it should always open at workspace 2 ! but there is a prob ! it says Warning workspace number 2 does not exist ! [00:15] Stormx2: where's it located, please? [00:15] bruce89: yes but a while ago [00:15] !grub | Ahmuck [00:15] Ahmuck: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [00:15] anathematic: and I assume you still have the apache2 source [00:15] runemaste644: then stop trying to use nvidia_new.ko. [00:15] bruce89: probably not [00:15] anathematic: if not, it's probably not possible [00:15] :< [00:15] maddash: oh... I'm an idiot, I assumed they were files... *bashes head on nearest brick wall* [00:15] Flare183: i have not lost grub [00:15] any solution to my prob? [00:15] thanks =) [00:15] anathematic: unless you redownload it [00:15] http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/about/major/nhanes/nhanes2005-2006/demo_d.xpt [00:15] does ubuntu have a directory where you can write a boot image for install? [00:15] grub:> you can make boot floppy for grub [00:15] I think that it is a SAS file [00:15] maddash: thats like saying "well then stop trying to get xorg to work" [00:15] michael_, /var/log/Xorg.0.log [00:15] anathematic: I've hardly compiled from source though, so I don't really know [00:15] LjL: a rogue op? [00:15] * Flare183 says sorry [00:16] whats a good program to convert my mp3s on my ipod to a supported file type [00:16] ddadda: maybe it's called "Desk 2". Right click the workspace switcher, select Preferences and check [00:16] nickrud: i just installed gutsy gibbon and have this problem (had to do alternate install) - would your command still be of use? [00:16] michael_, what video card? [00:16] Stormx2: cat Xorg.0.log | grep '(EE)': [00:16] soundray i will thnx [00:16] maddash: sorry, had to test something [00:16] Stormx2: (EE) intel(0): Cannot read V_BIOS (3) [00:16] bruce89: it's no problem, i might just see if i can enable these modules not without compiling from source again [00:16] michael_, and to answer your question, probably not :) [00:16] Stormx2: (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable [00:16] hey i downloaded the new sunbird calener from moz and it is a compiled binary... how do i install it so i can make a launcher... i have a older version of sunbird installed allready sunbird installed allready... [00:16] michael_: This happened after you enabled restricted drivers I assume? [00:16] runemaste644: that's like saying, "Don't expect to get anywhere without moving your legs." [00:16] nickrud: inherited this computer, has an aftermarket card probably for gaming (8 years ago), not sure what model or how to find out. [00:17] varsendagger: I can help with that.. [00:17] varsendagger: one second please... [00:17] I have no idea [00:17] michael_, lspci | grep -i vga should tell you something [00:17] utty: mp3 is supported. You may have to install a codec for some programs to play mp3s. [00:17] maddash: "2007-12-19 09:02 device -> ../../../../devices/platform/i8042/serio1" - I'm guessing that means it's using a serial driver? [00:17] Stormx2: no, i don't know what restricvted drivers means. I just installed with alternate CD since couldn't run graphical installer. [00:17] !mp3 [00:17] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [00:17] anyone got any idea about .xpt? [00:17] http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/about/major/nhanes/nhanes2005-2006/demo_d.xpt [00:17] biouser:> i have no idea === ToastGuy is now known as ToastGuy_ [00:17] nickrud: Thanks! 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01) [00:17] varsendagger: probably put it in /usr/local/bin/ [00:17] Eagleray: did I tell you to 'cat device'? i meant 'cat driver' [00:17] !xp [00:17] XP, or "eXtreme Programming" is a style of programming, for more information see: http://www.extremeprogramming.org/ [00:17] !xpt [00:17] Sorry, I don't know anything about xpt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [00:17] michael_, ah, I know that one well, ran it for several years. [00:17] biouser: firefox extension surely [00:18] biouser: I think it deals with firefox === ToastGuy_ is now known as R0NPAUL === R0NPAUL is now known as ToastGuy [00:18] varsendagger: HEre is how I did that.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48782/ [00:18] Isn't that XPI, bruce89 and kitche? [00:18] yeah i want to play them on rythembox [00:18] it is an 'open with?' link [00:18] oop [00:18] michael_: what does restricted-manager -l show? [00:18] still nothing ! i dont know what to do ! :( [00:18] Eagleray: oh, I did tell you to 'cat driver'. the "device -> ...." just means that 'device' is a symlink -- don't worry about that. [00:18] cool thanks [00:18] got xmms it works fine [00:18] maddash: you did say driver, but I have no 'driver' entry [00:18] yuk, xmms [00:18] varsendagger: Let me know if you get stuck [00:19] maddash: and yeah I know it's a symlink, as it's a device I can [00:19] michael_: it seems that xorg trying to use a video mode that is unsuitable to your monitor [00:19] maddash: 't cat it and get any useful info [00:19] biouser:> see this: http://filext.com/file-extension/xpt [00:19] that file seems to be a load of text [00:19] ddadda: maybe change the workspace names to something that doesn't contain spaces [00:19] Eagleray: for instance, cat event*/device/driver/description [00:19] michael_, sudo nano /etc/11/xorg.conf , find the section "Device" , and change Driver to "tdfx" [00:19] Stormx2: about 10 lines of what look like a python trace... important-sounding line is: GDK_IS_SCREEN(screen) failed [00:19] SAS.XportTransportFile.701 %ProgramFiles%\SAS\SAS9~1.1\CORE\SASEXE\SASOACT.EXE action [00:19] some kind of database [00:20] that is the one [00:20] Eagleray: cat /sys/class/input/event*/device/driver/description === ToastGuy is now known as ToastGuy_ [00:20] i tried using 'nvidia_new' as the driver but it failed [00:20] Stormx2, the voodoo 3 is way too old for restricted manager [00:20] maddash: possibly I'm being incredibly stupud here, but can you tell me *exactly* which file to cat (the touchpad is mouse0) === ToastGuy_ is now known as PauI [00:20] I have SAS remotely through citrix, Flare183 [00:20] XP_PRO is one of the things in that file [00:20] maddash: I don't have the event input type compiled into my kernel [00:20] soundray cant change the name of the workspaces [00:20] nickrud: I figured it might be too new, not up to speed with this. [00:20] biouser:> wow [00:20] biouser: try opening it up in openoffice [00:20] ifireball: thanks, how did you infer that? (so i can learn) [00:20] michael_, I really don't know, sorry [00:20] Eagleray: oh, sorry. mouse0/device/driver/description, possibly? === PauI is now known as ToastGuy [00:21] nickrud: made the change to that one line: do i need to reboot to try it out, since my screen is black on the computer? [00:21] michael_: experience :P [00:21] ddadda: why not? [00:21] kitche: ain't going to work [00:21] Stormx2: thanks anyway for your help! [00:21] ifireball: eww :) [00:21] checked in preferences dont have anything except to put more or less collumns [00:21] nickrud: or can i just run startx from this ssh window and hope for the best? [00:21] ddadda: in the lower part of the dialog, does it say "Workspace names" and give you a list? [00:21] maddash: much more like it ;-D - it's a PS/2 mouse driver according to that file [00:21] Eagleray: the /sys directory makes for an interesting theme park with obvious filenames [00:22] michael_, run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart from ssh [00:22] no [00:22] nickrud: doing now [00:22] ddadda: are you using dekstop effects? [00:22] and nv as the driver complains about a nonexistent tablet [00:22] yes [00:22] maddash: so I see... I don't normally have anything to do with /sys, have never really needed to go there before [00:22] michael_: essentially since non of the fallback mechanisms activates it means that xorg thinks everything is ok, because its not getting status from the screen correctly... you're using arather old CRT maybe? [00:22] nickrud: this caused my tty1 to suddenly show up! and then every 2 seconds blink to black screen, then back again; about 5 times, then just showing the tty1 screen. [00:23] tty7 just has a blinking cursor. [00:23] should i try disabling them ? [00:23] maddash: now that I know it's using a PS/2 driver, what exactly should I do with this info? [00:23] Anyone has any idea on how to recover (all or part of) the files in a reformated (fdisk), partially overwritten (8%), SATA disk ? [00:23] michael_, ok, next step is setting up your monitor for X correctly, I'll give you a link [00:23] ifireball: likely; it's an emachines that is similarly very old [00:23] !fixres | michael_ [00:23] michael_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto [00:23] nickrud: thanks! [00:23] ddadda: in that case I can't help you. I'm not even sure devilspie is compatible with desktop effects. [00:23] Eagleray: it's dubious that your touchpad is using the ps/2 driver. try another folder. [00:23] ahm ok thnx anyway [00:24] michael_, you need to define the horizontal and vertical refresh rates. If you want 3d accel, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Voodoo3doesnotdo3d [00:24] hmm...how do i run a GUI program as Admin? [00:24] root [00:24] Anyone running Feisty fawn here? i need something from your lists [00:24] ddadda: disabling effects is an option, of course [00:24] nickrud: thanks very much, i'll look at both links. [00:24] !root | slugone [00:24] slugone: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [00:24] ill try it ! [00:24] michael_: yeah the failsafe stuff in hardy is unfortunately not good with old hardware... [00:24] !sudo | slugone [00:24] slugone: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. [00:24] How do I configure ssh-askpass to run when I log into my Gnome session? [00:24] sorry [00:24] maddash: maddash only other mouse is mouse1, and that's registering as a USB HID device, which means it's the USB mouse I also have plugged in [00:24] michael_, it was a nice card in it's time, and will work great for you in 2d [00:25] how do i make it use nvidia new as the driver? [00:25] ifireball: i'm in gutsy, if it helps at all :D [00:25] slugone: try gksudo [gui cmd] [00:25] Need a user running feisty fawn pls [00:25] maddash: so mouse0 has got to be the touchpad [00:25] I need a pastebin of your sources.list [00:25] Eagleray: ls -l /sys/class/input [00:25] !easysource | Delvien [00:25] Delvien: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic [00:25] michael_: I meant gusty... my bad [00:25] all: thank you for your help and support - this channel is great! i plan to donate my own time [once i get the $@*% system up] to helping others here. [00:25] 10-4 soo when i make the launcher i type.......!root | Wireshark & ??????? or just !root | wireshark [00:25] hello [00:26] how can i type "|" on ubuntu :( [00:26] slugone: geez. didn't you get my msg? gksudo. [00:26] slugone: gksudo wireshark [00:26] loll i got 2 messages :P thx [00:26] soundray man thnks a lot [00:26] c-master: do you have a non-US keyboard? [00:26] the problem was the effects [00:26] ;) [00:26] u rock [00:26] maddash: http://pastebin.org/12105 [00:27] c-master: if you have a us standard keyboard it's by the enter key [00:27] soundray: i have [00:27] UTF-8 [00:27] soundray hope that has the file my friend needs, helping him install and get compiz running :P [00:27] Eagleray: like I said, /sys is a theme park. go exploring in input* === ToastGuy is now known as PauI [00:27] gn [00:27] c-master: I mean the keyboard layout === PauI is now known as PauI_ [00:28] TR === PauI_ is now known as ToastGuy [00:28] Why doesn't ubuntu have the arch command [00:28] ? [00:28] i couldn't do "glxinfo | grep rendering" [00:28] TheMusicGuy: the what? === reconnect is now known as recon [00:28] the "arch" command [00:28] c-master:> why not [00:28] XAMPP needs it [00:29] maddash: have already done so - mouse0 is a symlink to input5. cat input5/name gives me "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" [00:29] WoOT U guys are Super Ultra Mega Moocho Grande HelpFull thanks [00:29] c-master:> you have to do that in the terminal [00:29] maddash: so I'd say it's a fair bet that mouse0 is in fact the touchpad [00:29] Eagleray: congrats. [00:29] its funny I am on google looking for a way to stop my drive from spinning down and theres website after website explaining how to prevent it from not spinning down =/ [00:29] Flare183: [00:29] TheMusicGuy: never heard of it honestly [00:29] maddash: apologies for being a bit slow here [00:29] i try but [00:29] hi people [00:29] hey guys, how do I disable compiz and enable metacity? [00:29] TheMusicGuy: It's equivalent to 'uname -m' [00:29] hello [00:29] i couldn't type on terminal [00:29] hi! === V99_is_GIUSEPPE is now known as VeRsiOn99 [00:30] room emulator any one knows one better than xmame??? [00:30] in windows i use ctrl + alt + - keys [00:30] Is it safe then to put a script in /usr/bin that runs uname -m? [00:30] TheMusicGuy: I m pretty sure that is not a command [00:30] TheMusicGuy: better put it in /usr/local/bin [00:30] daryl_:> metacity --replace [00:30] c-master:> it's the "\" key [00:31] Flare183, thats it? [00:31] room emulator any one knows ?? === VeRsiOn99 is now known as `VeRsiOn99 [00:31] What's interesting is that I have that command on my feisty system; I'm wondering what provided it. [00:31] daryl_:> yep === `VeRsiOn99 is now known as `` [00:31] i want to plat jolly card [00:31] TheMusicGuy: if it does so little you might wanna look into making it an alias [00:31] mular, have you checked out hdparm -S option? Set to 0, I believe [00:31] <``> .. [00:31] room emulator any one knows one better than xmame??? [00:31] how do i find out if apache2 was compiled from source or not on ubuntu server 7.04? [00:31] c-master:> just press shift and then "\" === `` is now known as V99 [00:31] yeah hdparm doesn't work tells me invalid argument [00:32] from what I read sdparm will work but I don't know how to read the timer [00:32] what would be the benefit of that over a script? [00:32] mular: try sdparm with 242 [00:32] maddash: so now that I know the touchpad is mouse0, what should I be doing to get shared mem working? [00:32] other than one less file on my system :) [00:32] fabio_: firstly, the correct term is, "ROM," not, "room." secondly, posting repeatedly inside of two minutes won't help your situation. [00:32] oh man if vista came with help like this lol............................................maybe it would only suck half as much [00:32] anathematic, it has to have been? [00:32] anyone know how to restore Applications Menu? [00:32] how many minutes does that equal? [00:32] anathematic, binary's don't really just appear :/ [00:32] mular: 60 [00:33] mular, sudo hdparm -S 0 /dev/hda worked just fine here [00:33] hello, im sharing a folder , and when i try to open this shared folder Windows ask me for login, but i never typed any user name and password, what login could i try ? [00:33] anybody know any eyecandy other than kibadock or avant? [00:33] Eagleray: depends on whether there is a shm construct for your driver, and what you want to do with it. [00:33] SAS seems to be headlong against linux [00:33] and of course, other than compiz/beryl [00:33] windows? [00:33] mular, oh, sata, never mind me then [00:33] nickrud: mular has an external USB disk [00:33] livingdaylight: restore from what? [00:33] jack_sparrow: i think i figured it out [00:33] soundray, picked up on that. slowly [00:33] maddash: I'm wanting to be able to mess with my touchpad settings without restarting Xoeg every time, using something like ksynaptics [00:33] ya that works on my internal drive [00:33] ifireball, i've broken it addring the geubuntu packages [00:34] maddash: Thanks a lot -.- [00:34] c-master: still trying... [00:34] my applications menu is empty now [00:34] maddash: the synaptic driver does support shared memory [00:34] Jack_Sparrow: in my xorg.conf i didn't have the option "aiglx" "true" in there under serverlayout [00:34] soundray:> he can't find the | key on his laptoo [00:34] latop [00:34] laptop [00:34] hey guys, how do I disable compiz and enable metacity? I removed all the compiz packages but now metacity doesn't launch when I start gnome [00:34] daryl_: alt+f2 metacity --replace [00:34] maddash: but as seen in the log before, for whatever reason Xorg is deciding that there is no synaptics touchpad and unloading the driver [00:34] livingdaylight: well, 1st you need to figure out if its broken just for your user or for the entire system, try making a new user and logging into it [00:34] daryl_:> i told you [00:35] soundray: [00:35] i try [00:35] Flare183: what does the > do? [00:35] TheMusicGuy: it can also work ever so slightly faster [00:35] ifireball, its entire system bro [00:35] but always showing / or \ not | [00:35] nothing [00:35] Can anyone tell me how to mount smb shares? [00:35] im in text mode, whats the command to boot into the visual os [00:35] Flare183, didn't work permenently [00:35] c-master: hold down Ctrl-Alt, then press u c 7 [00:35] livingdaylight: you tested with another user? [00:35] well it didn't give me an error message [00:35] daryl_: remove compiz [00:35] like I wanna mount \\server\share to \home\usr\share [00:36] c-master: sorry, u 7 c [00:36] Flare183, I did [00:36] hello [00:36] weird [00:36] Eagleray: I don't really know what to do if Xorg is haphazardly ignoring SHMConfig; let me see your xorg.conf [00:36] livingdaylight: have you got .desktop files in "/usr/share/applications/" ? [00:36] daryl_: emerald too? [00:36] true, but I think I'll use a script anyway; their slightly easier to maintain [00:36] *they're [00:37] i am attempting to install ubuntu on my machine with a 8600 GTS Nvidia video card.... Once X starts it will go to a blank screen. Is there a paramater I need to pass for booting? [00:37] soundray: it effects as enter [00:37] it worked...XAMPP isn't complaining anymore. [00:37] thanks! :D [00:37] c-master: sorry, I made a mistake. It's Shift-Ctrl- u 7 c [00:37] TheMusicGuy: your choice, but I think its a matter of taste, I rather have most such stuff concentrated in one .aliases file.. [00:37] Flare183, It launches metacity but when I kill X its disabled again [00:37] Can anyone help me with smb shares? [00:37] daryl_: can't fix that [00:38] OMG i Created a symbolic link from a file to /usr/bin/ [00:38] !samba [00:38] samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT [00:38] how do i check which modules are enabled on apache2 for ubuntu server 7.04? [00:38] !omg | varsendagger [00:38] varsendagger: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks. [00:38] !grub [00:38] grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [00:38] maddash: http://pastebin.org/12107 [00:38] ifireball, /usr/share/application only has icons in it [00:38] 有会中文的吗 [00:38] !jp [00:38] 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい [00:38] !!! i Created a symbolic link from a file to /usr/bin/ [00:39] is that bad [00:39] soundray: it ' s ok [00:39] but is not there any short cut [00:39] hey, i need help. My gnome won't start, just makes me glad I installed KDE a few days ago [00:39] varsendagger: no not really just have to remember that you made that symlink :) [00:39] Flannel, that is chinese [00:39] i am attempting to install ubuntu on my machine with a 8600 GTS Nvidia video card.... Once X starts it will go to a blank screen. Is there a paramater I need to pass for booting? [00:40] c-master: I think there is, but I wouldn't know where on a TR keyboard. [00:40] i do shift + ctrl + (fn) + u 7 c [00:40] kitche: can i not delete that file? [00:40] !tr [00:40] for only |` [00:40] Demonho-br: Flannel hasn't said anything for hours :) [00:40] Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde. [00:40] try that [00:40] Flare183, that is chinese [00:40] kitche, ;) [00:40] varsendagger: well when you delete the file that symlink won't work anymore [00:40] tr is ? [00:41] oxlaptop mofo [00:41] /msg nickserv set unfiltered on [00:41] tinykeys weeeeeeee [00:41] c-master: maybe the people in #ubuntu-tr will know. [00:41] soundray: [00:41] everybody is sleeping now :D [00:41] 有会中文的吗 [00:41] now here is midnight :) [00:42] better run [00:42] hi folks, does someone know here if it si possible to stick different resolutions to different destktops ? [00:42] can anyone help me please ? [00:42] c-master: it's 7:42 pm here [00:42] !ask | r4wMUnt34q [00:42] r4wMUnt34q: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [00:42] !cn | woxiguilin [00:42] woxiguilin: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk [00:42] Eagleray: it looks fine [00:42] Flare183: That was not Japanese, that was Chinese :P [00:42] what about your Xorg.0.log? [00:42] sorry [00:43] maddash: hang on, I'll pastebin it [00:43] Eagleray: before you do that, what happens wheen you run qsynaptics? [00:43] AutoMatriX: you mean to different virtual desktops or to different screens? [00:44] how can i get the latest libc? [00:44] !ask | | [00:44] |: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [00:44] :p [00:44] ifireball, sorry [00:44] ifireball, I mean having 640*800 on desktop 1, 1204*768 on desktop 2 and 1400*1050 on the third one [00:45] /usr/share/applications doens't have .desktop [00:45] maddash: http://pastebin.org/12108 [00:45] billenium: that question does not make sense on Ubuntu. Get a distribution that lets you be on the bleeding edge, like Debian Sid === sea4ever is now known as puffy [00:45] ifireball, IRC, 2 is normal use and 3 is gps and other 'car' software === puffy is now known as sea4ever [00:45] So, I was trying data projector. Then I tried different resolutions and tried to setup a secondary screen, but it always changed my primary also. And since I once restarted my pc, after ubuntu loads, the login screen and everything after is unreadable [00:45] soundray: what about paste's short cut :( [00:46] all [00:46] i can login only by memorying what ive done and what i wrote [00:46] hello all [00:46] maddash: if I run ksynaptics (iirc the same program as a kcm shell) it gives me an error telling me to add the SHMConfig line to Xorg.conf - which I have already done [00:46] c-master: sorry? [00:46] is elementary, but How do i view the content of a file from the terminal ? [00:46] has anyone had really flaky intermittent connectivity with both a hardwireed NIC and wireless adaptor in gutsy on a compaq laptop? [00:46] AutoMatriX: I don't think you can do that, closest thing I can think of is running several X servers on the same machine with different configs [00:46] ctrl +v = paste in windows what about in ubuntu [00:46] DIL: cat file [00:46] DIL: either with cat or a n editor [00:46] thanks [00:47] i'm hearing of issues with network-manager [00:47] c-master: use the middle mouse button [00:47] livingdaylight: I meant files with a .desktop extension [00:47] I am going to try to wine MS IE unfortunately [00:47] so my question is, can I set resolution or something related to it in recovery mode as root ? [00:47] Does gusty nfs version 3 default to tcp? [00:47] !ies4linux | biouser [00:47] biouser: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox! [00:47] r4wMUnt34q: are you sure you don't typed your password into the nickname field? [00:47] Hi again, bad news - the screenres fixes still didn't get graphics up and running. each restart of gdm still leaves the Alt-F7 screen with a blinking cursor. [00:48] ifireball, that's somethng worth to check, but how does one swhitch servers ??? with a shortuct ? [00:48] at which i'm able to type, to no effect. [00:48] wow ion3 is a very old version [00:48] michael_: try Alt-F9 [00:48] soundray, biouser@biouser-laptop:~/ies4linux-2.99.0$ ./ies4linux [00:48] You need to install cabextract first! [00:48] Download it here: http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php [00:48] the latest xorg log had an error that no screen with appropriate settings could be found. [00:48] biouser: 'sudo apt-get install cabextract' [00:48] soundray: alt-f9 had the last two bootup OKs on it - Battery and one other. [00:48] sysdef: No, I logged in, my background changed [00:48] i'm trying to install the tundradraw ansi editor in ubuntu gutsy but when i type sudo dpkg --install tundradraw-0.5b1-1_i386.deb i get the error cannot access archive: No such file or directory, is there a software source i need to add somewhere? [00:48] !paste | biouser [00:48] soundray: no i take that back, that was F8 [00:48] biouser: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [00:48] soundray: F9 was blank. [00:48] Hello [00:48] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200185464950 < is this good RAM? [00:48] soundray, thanks man [00:49] r4wMUnt34q: kk ;) [00:49] AutoMatriX: essentially you run them on different virtual terminals, so you switch with ctrl+alt+fX [00:49] Flare183, ok [00:49] michael_: sorry, was worth a try [00:49] no problem [00:49] smb4K is so much easier than editing fstab. I highly suggest that for anyone who wants to mount smb shares [00:49] soundray: sure, np [00:49] how would i disable mouseemu from start up its in /etc/init.d is there a way to disable it so i have to start it manually? === Owner_ is now known as smmagic [00:49] !offtopic | Netham45 [00:49] Netham45: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [00:49] =/ [00:49] sorry... [00:49] o [00:49] sysdef: i made a topic in the forum where it is more explained [00:49] ifireball, that's not gonna to be easy with a stylus on a tablet-pc [00:49] maddash: have just installed and tried qsynaptics, and it tells me to enable SHMConfig in Xorg.conf and install the synaptics driver [00:49] the specific error is: '(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. [00:49] ' [00:49] ifireball, sorry, i don't see any(had another look) [00:50] maddash: however clearly the synaptics driver is already installed (as Xorg is loading it) and SHMConfig is already enabled in Xorg.conf [00:50] First time ubuntu user here... [00:50] oh, and still: (EE) VESO(0): V_BIOS address 0x56a0 out of range [00:50] sysdef: Im glad I have a dualboot with XP, because by now my NTBK would be useless, though I like ubuntu a lot more [00:50] ...having trouble getting my installation to connect to the internet [00:50] anybody got ideas? [00:50] livingdaylight: you looking with a terminal or with some gui? (I gotta ask...) [00:51] I checked the help documentation, and ifconfig eth1 fails [00:51] AutoMatriX: indeed... [00:51] When using qemu to test a CD image, I get this message: Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated [00:51] I was trying data projector. Then I tried different resolutions and tried to setup a secondary screen, but it always changed my primary also. And since I once restarted my pc, after ubuntu loads, the login screen and everything after is unreadable. My question is, if I can do it as root in recovery mode somehow or I need to reinstall ubuntu :( [00:51] ifireball, with some gui [00:51] but ifconfig eth0 worked [00:52] ifireball, thanks for ideas, anyway, it did no harm :D [00:52] livingdaylight: do it with the terminal: "ls /usr/share/applications" [00:52] ifireball: any other ideas for attacking my graphics issues, since the fixres documents didn't work? [00:52] Eagleray: you compiled your kernel without events, right? does that mean that lsmod|grep evdev gives nothing? [00:52] Eagleray: because I think you might need the evdev module [00:53] hi, how do i add myself to the disk group? [00:53] michael_: do you have your screen's documentation by any chance? [00:53] maddash: maddash I don't use modules - the only module loaded is the nvidia one, everything else is compiled into the kernel [00:53] maddash: isis:/sys/class/input/input5# lsmod [00:53] Module Size Used by [00:53] nvidia 7005796 26 [00:53] ui/pygtk/python-gtk.sh: line 6: 6761 Aborted [00:53] ifireball: nope, except that it's an eMachines eView 15w2 [00:53] ifireball, oh, yea! lots! [00:53] hmmmmm.... Anyone interested in helping out a newbie? [00:53] what can we do for you? [00:54] I was trying data projector. Then I tried different resolutions and tried to setup a secondary screen, but it always changed my primary also. And since I once restarted my pc, after ubuntu loads, the login screen and everything after is unreadable [00:54] Eagleray: wow. [00:54] maddash: I'll try recompiling with the events interface added, and see if that helps [00:54] Eagleray: why do you do that? [00:54] having trouble connecting to the internet [00:54] can someone help please, how do i add myself to the disk group? [00:54] maddash: I do it for speed and convenience [00:54] livingdaylight: as it should be, then its not what I thought... [00:54] qu1et_ubu: i'll try my best, any details? [00:54] vishal_: sudo addgroup username groupname [00:55] ifireball, does that mean you can't help me restore Applications menu? [00:55] michael - ifconfig eth1 fails [00:55] i downloaded and burned a ubuntu image. when i boot from it i get installation options, but i don't want to install it (yet). how can i use it without installing? [00:55] sub[t]rnl: ty [00:55] maddash: as I am starting from allnoconfig anyway, I may as well compile them in and avoid the overhead of module communication [00:55] michael - but ifconfig eth0 works [00:55] michael - ping fails [00:55] qu1et_ubu: do you have a second card? or a wireless? [00:55] no, just one card [00:55] maddash: current kernel is vanilla 2.6.24-rc5, configured for this laptop from an allnoconfig [00:55] michael_: I think what you need to do is adjust the "Horizsync" and "Vertrefresh" in xorg.conf, try websearching to see what they need to be for your monitor [00:56] Sparkizzy: Click on Run or install or whatever the first option is [00:56] Hello [00:56] the system will load into your RAM [00:56] Short question [00:56] ah [00:56] michael_: or you can do some trial and error, lowering the values [00:56] i added a new partition in /etc/fstab [00:56] ifireball: i tried this (it was in the help.ubuntu.org/community/video-problems page. [00:56] maddash: anything else you suggest I add, seeing as I'm recompiling with event anyway? [00:56] kthnx r4wMUnt34q === Rabbitbu1ny is now known as Rabbitbunny [00:56] ifireball: no difference. also tried all the other suggestions on that page. [00:56] sub[t]rnl: do you know why i get permission denied on this : dd if=/dev/sdb of=windowsxp.mbr bs=512 count=63 [00:56] Now i've got autmatically an Icon on my desk [00:56] you can install it when it is loaded if you want [00:56] how can i prevent this [00:56] Eagleray: nope. [00:57] ifireball, is that a no? [00:57] qu1et_ubu: that is, what does eth1 represent that you're trying to get up? [00:57] np [00:57] michael_: did that page also tell you how to disable the EDID registers? [00:57] ifireball: hmm, don't recall that, let me go look [00:57] livingdaylight: well, not without some research, I'm afraid I can't do it currently [00:57] maddash: then I'll be back in 15-20 mins or so after recompile/reboot and recompiling the nvidia module [00:57] bastian: the icon usually appears when you don't have an entry in fstab. For me, once I added my partitions in and restarted the icons were gone. [00:57] ifireball, ok [00:57] michael - The only reason I tried eth1, is b/c that's what the help documentation suggested [00:58] k, i'll try another restart thanks [00:58] ifireball: the only mention of edid on that page is when dealing with nvidia drivers which i'm not using - Option "UseEdidFreqs" False [00:58] qu1et_ubu: but you said eth0 works, correct? can you get to the internet via eth0? [00:58] michael - When that failed, I decided the try eth0 to see what happened [00:58] bastian: try ctrl-alt-backspace to restart gnome first [00:59] michael - How do I configure linux to use eth0 ? [00:59] michael_: try that, I think it may be ignoring the manual "Horizsync" and "Vertrefresh" if EDID values are available [00:59] bastian: that'll log you out too though [00:59] argh (phone) [00:59] qu1et_ubu: sorry, i thought that you had said that eth0 worked fine. i don't know how to manually tell it what name to use for your network card. [00:59] michael_: also, try commenting out and ModeLines... [00:59] Hello! I come from China! Makes a friend! [00:59] Hello! I come from China! Makes a friend! [00:59] qu1et_ubu: gksu gedit /etc/mtab perhaps [01:00] Hello! I come from China! Makes a friend! [01:00] !repeat | woxiguilin [01:00] woxiguilin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience [01:00] ifireball: do i use UseEdid, or UseEdidFreq, or something else? [01:00] anyone help fix my Applicataions Menu? [01:00] qu1et_ubu: wait [01:00] Now, when Ubuntu is done loading, the logging screen has a unreadabla graphics, I cant recognize my mouse, only the vertical position, and I can log in, but I still cant recognize whats on the screen without remembering what I have done and so on. [01:00] ok [01:00] michael_: try setting useEdid to false [01:00] Has anyone used fuse with sshfs or fusesmb? Is it supposed to be ungodly slow? [01:01] OK [01:01] Now, when Ubuntu is done loading, the logging screen has a unreadabla graphics, I cant recognize my mouse, only the vertical position, and I can log in, but I still cant recognize whats on the screen without remembering what I have done and so on. Is it repairable in the terminal ? [01:01] ifireball: just to make sure - my HorizSync and VertRefresh settings were added to the "MOnitor" section, but I should put "UseEdid false" into the "Screen" section - right? [01:02] I've accidentally mucked up my graphics driver thing so now I can only use the text interface instead of gnome gui. The internet is also not connected in the CLI. How do I get that to connect? [01:02] I might need it to install my graphics driver again [01:02] hi [01:02] Aquilai: does "sudo ifup eth0" work? [01:03] does ubuntu use NetworkManager ? [01:03] I haven't tried because I'm new to linux :/ [01:03] michael_: I think you put it in your device section, also comment out the "Option "DPMS"" line [01:03] but presumably that's to connect to my network card then [01:03] Aquilai: no problem, try it and then type "ifconfig" and see if eth0 says UP or DOWN in its pile of information [01:03] Does someone know how to fix Applications Menu? [01:03] is OSS better than ALSA? I have never used OSS [01:03] Aquilai: yes, sudo means "run this as root (administrator)", ifup means "turn on this interface", and "eth0" is usually the name of your wired internet card. [01:04] does ubuntu use NetworkManager ? [01:04] ifireball: will put it in Device section; I saw nothing about ModeLines, which you mentioned above; and I'll comment out DPMS as well. [01:04] okay cheers. also is there a text based IRC so that once I get the net working I can still ask for help? [01:04] livingdaylight: what's wrong with the Applications menu ? [01:04] dadehoog, its empty [01:05] fsckr: OSS belong to the olden days. ALSA is it's successor [01:05] michael_: you don't have any "ModeLine" lines in your xorg.conf? [01:05] livingdaylight: what is in System->Preferences->Main Menu ? [01:05] !alsa [01:05] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [01:05] dadehoog, i was messing with geubuntu; added the packages but it didn't work out. coming back to gnome i find Applications Menu empty [01:05] ifireball: correct. [01:05] is there an easy way to download youtube videos? [01:06] okay I'll just give it a try [01:06] michael_: well, one less thing to worry about... ;) [01:06] ifireball: with DPMS commented out and UseEdid=false in "Device" section, I restarted gdm; and now Alt-F7 gives me a blinking cursor instead of giving me nothing at all. [01:06] i think sound support is the only thing lacking in linux these days. You just about have to pull teeth in order to get 5.1 working and if you get it working its not true 5.1 :_ [01:06] [nothing at all = refusing to switch from whatever tty i'm currently at.] [01:06] dadehoog, like nothing [01:06] DigitalNinja: Try freshmeat.net. Look for youtube-dl [01:06] livingdaylight: ok, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" - that should put your system back to what it was when you first installed it [01:06] Fjodor: got it [01:07] ifireball: '(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration' [01:07] any new programs/config that you've done should be retained, but you'll have all the default stuff back again too [01:07] I have a server that just ran out of memmory. I have console access through a kvm, but i can't turn off the power reset it. What can I do? I have tried ctr-alt-delete a million times while it complains about having run out of memmory.. [01:07] wohoo, finnaly i got oracle xe and oracle sql dev running o/ [01:07] ifireball: even more helpful: '(WW) VESA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:11:0) found' [01:07] dadehoog, this is what it looks like http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgp8.png [01:07] michael_: hmm... can you paste the whole file to pastebin === liquidfire is now known as liquidfiree [01:08] livingdaylight: what is alacarte-made ? [01:08] ifireball: sorry, what's pastebin? and, do you mean the Xorg log or xorg.conf? [01:08] dadehoog, no idea [01:08] michael_: log [01:08] I am on Ubuntu website, it says that requirments for Ubuntu desktop is 256 mg ram, that is right? [01:08] !pastebin | michael_ [01:08] michael_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [01:08] http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition [01:08] The program 'ies4linux-gtk.py' received an X Window System error. [01:08] I have a question, I was hoping someone can help me, its with regard to ssh and X forwarding, but using a windows X client and accessing from windows (32bit) my (64bit) ubuntu Gusty machine [01:08] do y'all think it will still work? [01:08] dadehoog: it means alacarte made it but someone removed the metadata for it that shows the real name [01:09] michael, pike -- OK, I'm back [01:09] livingdaylight, Amaranth, indeed [01:09] Now, when Ubuntu is done loading, the logging screen has a unreadabla graphics, I cant recognize my mouse, only the vertical position, and I can log in, but I still cant recognize whats on the screen without remembering what I have done and so on. Is it repairable in the terminal ? [01:09] what is the best program to copy dvds? [01:09] I'm probably not understanding correctly: [01:09] my power supply only has two SATA connectors. how mcuh do more adapters cost? [01:09] qu1et_ubu: work with pike, please - i'm attacking my own prob at the minute (and probably not able to help you anyway :( ) [01:09] qu1et_ubu: i dont know where that config file went in gutsy if youre in feisty you should be able to edit it to associate mac with device [01:09] dadehoog, anyway to restore to default? [01:09] livingdaylight: as I suggested above, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" - that should bring the menu back to the default arrangement [01:09] Now, when Ubuntu is done loading, the logging screen has a unreadabla graphics, I cant recognize my mouse, only the vertical position, and I can log in, but I still cant recognize whats on the screen without remembering what I have done and so on. Is it repairable in the recovery mode ? [01:09] jack_: dd [01:10] michael_: also if you have "busid" line in your "Device" section you can disable it (assuming you only have one gfx card) and make sure you got the right driver [01:10] dadehoog, ok, did that but it hasn't [01:10] dadehoog, do i need to reboot? [01:10] livingdaylight: log out, and log in again [01:10] Fjodor: thanks :) [01:10] dadehoog, Places and System is fine - its just the Applications Menu [01:10] pike_ OK [01:10] I am having problems getting X to forward to my windows machine when using a X client [01:10] ifireball: there's the old video card which seems to do nothing, even in win98 which i blew away, and then the new voodoo card... not sure if this matters. [01:10] livingdaylight: log out and log in again === AutoMatriX_ is now known as AutoMatriX === ajmorris_ is now known as ajmorris [01:11] ifireball: no idea how to check if i have the right driver; all i know is that "intel" didn't work, but "tdfx" at least gives me a cursor! [01:11] jack_: dd if=/dev/dvd of=some-file-name.iso bs=8192 [01:11] hey guys [01:11] anyone know of a easier way to whitelist senders in Evolution using spamassassin? [01:11] what's [01:11] up [01:11] ???? [01:11] Amaranth, i tried geubuntu but had troubles with applications menu in it and they at #geubuntu tried to help me and must have in the process removed the metadata [01:11] michael_: no that cursor is no good, it means X isn't loading [01:11] drew_chicago: how are you doing it at the moment ? [01:11] pike_ Just to be clear: ifconfig eth0 does work ... but apparently my network connection is configured to use eth1 [01:11] dadehoog, I edit the userprefs [01:11] ifireball: i've commented out the BusID line. What driver do you recommend I use, if not tdfx? [01:12] ifireball: or how to find out what to use? [01:12] qu1et_ubu: well you can change that by gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces [01:12] ok cool [01:12] drew_chicago: "Mark as Junk" not linked to spamassassin ? [01:12] qu1et_ubu: or in the gui but im not familiar with it [01:12] Thanks! [01:12] <_wretched> The title bars are ultra small and I can barely hit the 'close' or 'maximize' buttons, how do I change the size in gnome? [01:12] np [01:12] I prefer command line [01:13] find the card you want to use with lspci, make sure the numbers in the beginning of the ones are the same as in the busid line, don't comment it [01:13] whatś the command to see the channel list with x-chat [01:13] ? [01:13] drew_chicago: you've got the Evolution spamassassin plug-in installed ? [01:13] dadehoog, I have been marking them as Not Junk and it moves that one email to the infolder but next time I get another from that sender it goes to junk [01:14] dadehoog, I do believe I have the plugin installed [01:14] drew_chicago: ok, so spamassassin isn't learning from your input ? [01:14] michael_: find the card you want to use with lspci, make sure the numbers in the beginning of the ones are the same as in the busid line, don't comment it [01:14] dadehoog, right it doesn't learn [01:15] michael_: if its is a 3dfx card then you should use the tdfx driver, not sure the vesa driver will even work with it [01:15] !less [01:15] Sorry, I don't know anything about less - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:15] ifireball: ah, i get you. ok, lspci shows 2 cards, and the important one is 01:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01). [01:15] so i should have BusID "01:0b.0" under "Device"? [01:15] michael_: I think so [01:15] michael_: w8 [01:15] ifireball: or rather, PCI:01:0b.0 i'd guess [01:16] dadehoog, no cigar [01:16] ifireball: waiting [01:16] michael_: yeah the 2nd one [01:16] livingdaylight: sorry, no more ideas from me ... === ktetch is now known as K`Tetch [01:16] ifireball: ok, now trying gdm restart [01:16] does anyone know anything about NetworkManager ? [01:16] Anyone else got any ideas on how to fix Applications Menu [01:17] drew_chicago: ok, seems that evolution spam filtering is less than perfect ... quite a few bugs reported, I'm just having a look at them in Launchpad [01:17] Amaranth, you seemed to know what is up [01:17] hi [01:17] ifireball: i'm not getting any movement on Alt-F7 or F9, except for 1 short blackout followed by returning to the old blinking cursor screen. [01:17] ifireball: (after doing a gdm restart) [01:17] ifireball: anyway, now trying to figure out how to copy text into paste.ubuntu-nl.org from a Cygwin sshd window :) [01:17] michael_: take a look in the log file again, also paste it please [01:18] dadehoog, I also can't find ANY gui interface for spamassassin. I know the plugin is installed but the configure button doesn't do anything [01:18] michael_: you might wanna try putty [01:18] ifireball: yes, thanks [01:18] ifireball: don't have it on this machine because cygwin feels even more like linux :) [01:18] drew_chicago: could you try closing Evolution, then opening a terminal, and running "evolution" ? That way we'll get some extra information about what is and isn't happening ? [01:19] dadehoog, will do [01:19] michael_: it doesn't mean you need to suffer that silly featureless cmd window... run an xterm in cygwin maybe? [01:19] hey, are you sleeping or what ? [01:19] dadehoog, ok I started it from terminal [01:20] dadehoog: okeydoke, now try an set something as Junk or Not Junk ... is there anything in the terminal ? [01:20] ifireball: ooh, that's a thought... although don't i have to have X running on my linux box in order to attach a remote xterm to it? [01:21] michael_: iv you've got cygwin you can run X on windows... [01:21] ifireball: oh sweet, i had no idea. [01:21] ifireball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48790/ [01:21] ifireball: XMing is a better solution though - it runs faster, and you don't need cygwin installed for it [01:22] hi [01:22] drew_chicago: okeydoke, now try an set something as Junk or Not Junk ... is there anything in the terminal ? Also, try and use the "configure" button for spamassassin ? [01:22] ifireball: holy crap, X was just two keystrokes away and i hadn't known :) [01:22] dadehoog, ok hold on [01:22] Anyone know how to fix an Applications Menu? [01:22] Eagleray: no argument, but he already has cygwin... [01:23] is IE 6 in the XP era? [01:23] i have a bluetooth network adapter, a wireless network adapter and a PCI netword adapter. each of these adapters connect to different network with different privileges, some websites are block when using one but not on the others, is there anyway to choose which connection i would like to be active without disabling other devices? [01:23] ifireball: i assume you saw the URL pasted for my Xorg.0.log output [01:23] I am reinstalling grub from the live cd, why is that when doing "grub-install /dev/sda" sda is not found????? === ajmorris is now known as ajmorris_ [01:24] I did chroot /media/ubuntu [01:24] biouser: yep [01:24] dadehoog, first I flagged an amazon email as junk terminal posted "report junk?? Amazon.com" [01:24] plseas help [01:24] michael_: yeah, it seems you're still using "vesa" [01:24] drew_chicago: ok, that _sounds_ good ... but ..? [01:25] I am reinstalling grub from the live cd, why is that when doing "grub-install /dev/sda" sda is not found????? [01:25] plseas help [01:25] dadehoog, next I tried configure the spamassassin plugin and that didn't do anything [01:25] drew_chicago: right, nothing on the terminal at all ? [01:25] i am trying to configure wlan on my new gutsy install, but i dont get any connection, and it keeps deleting my network key from the configuration dialog, whats wrong? [01:25] neither sda or hda ---.....help please [01:25] michael_: lets do some cleanup, make sure you don't have any gdm org X processes running, then delete the logfile and try again [01:25] right nothing about the configure attempt in terminal at all [01:25] ifireball: got it [01:25] I am reinstalling grub from the live cd, why is that when doing "grub-install /dev/sda" sda is not found????? [01:25] dadehoog right nothing about the configure attempt in terminal at all [01:26] Can someone give me their applications.menu in /etc/xdg/menus please? [01:26] neither sda or hda ---.....help please [01:26] michael_: e.g. gdm _or_ X processes [01:26] drew_chicago: odd, hang on I'm just installing spamassassin here ... [01:26] ifireball: can i just do a ps gax | grep -i x, and look for things suspicious? [01:26] ifireball: or is there a better was? [01:26] michael_, I am having to do wine -age to do some things for work without using windows itself.... so i was wondering: if i am wine-ing IE6 I should get the XP version of plug-ins [01:26] drew_chicago: does evolution report "Loading Spamassasin as the default junk plugin" when it is first started ? [01:27] ? [01:27] michael_: thats ok, I use ps -ef though, but thats just an old IRIX habit... [01:27] biouser: sorry, out of my depth. haven't used wine in years. [01:27] dadehoog, never noticed that [01:27] can someone cd and tellme what their /etc/xdg/menus holds? [01:27] I'm getting /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs) when trying to boot this Vostro 1500 with Ubuntu Feisty 7.x [01:27] ifireball: ok, i did /etc/init.d/gdm stop and ther seems to be nothing related to gdm or x in ps. now cleaning the log. [01:27] what gives? [01:27] my /etc/xdg/menus holds debian-menu.menu gnomecc.menu gnome-screensavers.menu kde-applications.menu preferences.menu settings.menu [01:28] can someone tell me what i am missing and what is surplus? [01:28] drew_chicago: ok, close evolution and re-open it (through the terminal again) and check that the message about SpamAssassin is there ... [01:28] dadehoog, ok just restarted Evolution and yes it mentiions starting spamassassin [01:28] ifireball: log's clean, now running /etc/init.d/gdm start [01:28] drew_chicago: good - 1 sec [01:29] michael_: it it still doesn't work paste both the log and the xorg.conf files please [01:29] ifireball: didn't work, will do. thanks so much for the cycles you're putting into this! [01:29] <_3mend0> re all [01:30] I really wan to figure out how to detect my own devices, [01:30] and update drivers on ubuntu [01:30] michael_: I just can't help thinking its one tiny thing we're missing here [01:30] EdwardXP: what hardware? most, if not all, should be auto-detected [01:31] drew_chicago: ok, I've tracked the issue down to a bug report ... it would appear that the Evolution plug-in isn't able to alter the spamassassin whitelist [01:31] drew_chicago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution/+bug/172434 [01:31] ifireball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48792/ is error log [01:31] drew_chicago: but ultimately, it's an issue with Evolution, which the GNOME developers are working on ... [01:31] <_3mend0> sorry, doesn anybody knows how to restar sun java ?? I can't run mercury ... return the follow error: " axel@axel-laptop:~$ mercury [01:31] <_3mend0> Mercury does not run on Blackdown Java. [01:31] <_3mend0> Please, make sure to have the Sun Java version 1.5 or later installed. [01:31] <_3mend0> axel@axel-laptop:~$ [01:31] <_3mend0> " [01:31] <_3mend0> what I can do ? [01:31] dadehoog, ok so not much I can do then but keep editing the whitelist manually [01:31] Does anybody know how to install a current partition of windows on virtual box? [01:31] Can someone help me with applications menu please!? [01:31] ifireball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48793/ is xorg.conf [01:32] dadehoog, can you tell me what you have in /etc/xdg/menus? [01:32] ifireball: i sure would love it if it were one tiny thing. yessir. [01:32] dadehoog, thanks for your help [01:32] hello [01:32] <_3mend0> !mercury sun-java [01:32] my /etc/xdg/menus holds debian-menu.menu gnomecc.menu gnome-screensavers.menu kde-applications.menu preferences.menu settings.menu [01:33] drew_chicago: pretty much ... it may be possible to convince Evolution to output a list of your address book in the format required for spamassassin .... [01:33] can ubuntu feisty (64bit) write to hfs+ ? [01:33] is it me or is facebook a lot slower on gibbon with firefox? [01:33] drew_chicago: no worries - hope it helped .. [01:34] dadehoog, thats a good idea. I'll investigate that. it'll save me some typing if nothing else [01:34] dadehoog, can you help me bro? [01:34] does anyone know anything about NetworkManager ? [01:34] hello... I need some help installing Ubuntu jeos 7.10 on vmware 6 [01:34] ok so i know that windows is good for games...macs are good for video editing and graphics design...what is linux famous for? [01:34] livingdaylight: I've done what I can ... [01:34] Does anybody know how to install a current partition of windows on virtual box? [01:34] backgen: being free [01:35] ProN00b: yes, if you don't use journaling [01:35] livingdaylight: sorry [01:35] backgen, it is good for surfing the web [01:35] iirc [01:35] lol [01:35] whats the command to see your open ports again? [01:35] dadehoog, ok, then just continue to ignore me [01:35] backgen: those are all stereotypes that are rapidly changing [01:35] dadehoog, seriously, you can't tell me what you have in /etc/xdg/menus? [01:35] im tryin gto find out which port to allow in the router [01:35] Linux is famous for being good at anything and everything at the same time [01:35] backgen: yeah none of those stereotypes are really true any more [01:35] hi does any one know why some fonts dont print properly in ubuntu [01:35] michael_: almost there: "PCI:*(1:11:0) 3Dfx Interactive, Inc..." so it seems you need to use decimal in xorg.conf rather then hex... [01:36] atoponce, how do i turn that off ? [01:36] I need help getting ubuntu to work with my wiriless and ethernet cards [01:36] is it normal to have a slight vertical tearing when you use your cube? [01:36] michael_: so it should be BusID "PCI:01:11:0" [01:36] ProN00b: just mount the fs as hfs and not hfs+ [01:36] backgen: the "stereotype" for linux though is being "good at running servers" [01:36] atoponce, -t hfs ? [01:36] is there a kind of manual for ubuntu gutsy gibbon? === joerlend__ is now known as XiXaQ [01:36] backgen: the whole "macs are good for graphics/audio/video" is bullshit though [01:36] Excuse me, again: Linux is famous for being good at everything and nothing at the same time [01:36] backgen: ubuntuguide.org [01:36] ifireball: ok, i'm willing to try it :) [01:36] backgen: "windows is good for games" has a little merit though [01:36] ok... [01:37] anyone here has experience with Ubuntu 7.10 JeOS? [01:37] how do I surf in my share folder with nfs ? [01:37] backgen: there is an official ubuntu book that canical publishes. There is also many websites, and of course since ubuntu is made up of all open source software, the websites and books and manuals of the pieces of the system [01:37] ProN00b: yes. actually, it looks like 'hfsplus' is supported, so give that a try [01:37] ifireball: note that i had used PCI:01:0b.0, with a dot, not :0 with a colon. shoudl i in fact use a colon? [01:37] abstrakt, macs are excellent at video and graphics stuff, that's no bs [01:37] the lucida handwritng fonts just looks normal in openoffce [01:37] I have a dell inspiron 6000 and installed ubuntu onto it....sadly it refuses to use my wireless card and my ethernet port [01:37] any ideas? [01:37] are there any "upgrades" to apps in LTS? [01:37] michael_: I think so [01:37] backgen: the official ubuntu book is very good, it's sitting right next to me... and will get you on your feet in no time! [01:37] does the live cd have any kinds of hard restrictions on writing to disks ? [01:37] abstrakt: that's only cause developers love DirectX, if more games were programmed properly (like wow, warcraftIII, quake, unreal) linux would be more popular [01:38] ProN00b: nope. it's full fledged [01:38] ifireball, couldn't you check your /etc/xdg/menus? [01:38] atoponce, well, if hfsplus is supported, why didn't it work when i tried [01:38] i'm getting frustrated [01:38] i thought linux was meant to wrok [01:38] ProN00b: what did you try? [01:38] does anyone know how i can get my hands on the official ubuntu book? [01:38] gftp doesnt [01:38] how do I surf in my share folder with nfs ? [01:38] winkman, that book is sooo outdated. i have it too and donated it to my library coz it's just obsolete [01:38] it sucks, transfers "stall" without reason, the only way to recover is to restart the app [01:38] backgen: From a local library, or through the ubuntu store perhaps? [01:38] ifireball: k, i changed it, wiped the log, and am restarting gdm... cross your fingers. F7 screen is currently blinking cursor plus some garbage i typed on it. [01:38] livingdaylight: it contains a bunch of *.menu files [01:39] but there arent enough decent ftp clients out there accessible [01:39] ifireball, my /etc/xdg/menus holds debian-menu.menu gnomecc.menu gnome-screensavers.menu kde-applications.menu preferences.menu settings.menu [01:39] "mkdir /media/sda1;mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1" could read and list files correctly [01:39] ahhh thanks [01:39] livingdaylight: Really? I"ve got the second edition... and it still seems pretty good [01:39] livingdaylight: hmm... I also got applications.menu... [01:39] winkman, ahhh.. you didn't say that. i got the first edition [01:39] ProN00b: well, that's you're problem. why are you trying to create a device? [01:39] although i doubt my library will have a book that talks about gibbon...but were there any breakthrough changes that came with it? [01:39] ifireball, yea, that's the one i need! [01:39] atoponce, i even tried with -w, and mtab showed "rw" [01:39] ifireball: oh good, got a parse error, UseEdid not valid in "Device". I'll try in "Screen". [01:39] atoponce, trying to create a device ? [01:40] michael_: just comment it for no [01:40] ProN00b: mkdir /dev/sda1? [01:40] ifireball, can you paste that for me? so i can add it [01:40] ifireball: ok [01:40] ZiRo`: why are you using gedit ? If you run Applications->Internet->Terminal Server Client and set up FTP connections as if they were local filesystems ... [01:40] atoponce, read again [01:40] backgen: I'm not too sure, i think the second editiion only deals with 6.06 [01:40] heh [01:40] my bad [01:40] livingdaylight: try reinstalling the "gnome-menus" package [01:40] *gftp [01:40] atoponce, any idea what else could be wrong ? [01:40] !mp3 [01:40] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [01:40] ProN00b: you're sure that the hfs+ device is /dev/sda1? [01:40] ifireball, ok, will try that first and see what impact it has on /etc/xdg/menus [01:40] yes, files show correctly [01:41] just giving me a file system is read only error [01:41] !rpl [01:41] livingdaylight: that's the package where the file came from [01:41] ProN00b: mount -t hfs /dev/sda1 /mnt [01:41] ProN00b: ^^ work? [01:41] !rpl [01:41] Sorry, I don't know anything about rpl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:41] ProN00b: is it hfs+ or just hfs? [01:41] atoponce, yeah, going to try this when i reboot, anything else i could try in case this fails ? [01:41] ifireball: hm, a couple lines from end of log (it failed again btw) is '(WW) TDFX: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:11:0) found' [01:42] how do I ripl-boot ubuntu [01:42] kitche: hfs+ [01:42] want the whole log pasted? [01:42] kitche, its hfs+, but i don't think it matters if i just need a file deleted quickly+ [01:42] if i have problems with openoffice not showing fonts properly is there another room i can go to? === SonomaAway is now known as Mr_Sonoma [01:42] ProN00b: specify the type. hfs for no journaling, hfsplus for journaling: mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda1 /mnt [01:42] ifireball, how about the others. Any of them extrenuous? [01:42] how do i ripl linux [01:42] michael_: lets try without the busid line [01:42] ProN00b: /mnt is a great tmp point for mounting devices [01:42] ifireball, my /etc/xdg/menus holds debian-menu.menu gnomecc.menu gnome-screensavers.menu kde-applications.menu preferences.menu settings.menu [01:43] michael_: "(WW)" means it's a warning, but not fatal to the execution. Look for "(EE)". That means error and failed to execute. [01:43] anybody have a link to some cool ubuntu backgrounds? [01:43] ifireball, all the others are there in your list too or should i eliminate any of them? [01:43] ifireball: erm, i seem to have used ".0" instead of ":0" in the xorg.conf BusID line. Let's try this again, with :0... [01:43] hi guys, i want to resend my mails with fetchmail and sendmail, to an 3rd mailserver do someone know how to do this? [01:43] how do i ripl linux [01:43] dadehoog: yeah, i figured that, but it certainly pointed to a problem as I hadn't seen that before. thanks. [01:43] std: what is 'rip1 linux'? [01:43] livingdaylight: I got all off those [01:43] !rip1 [01:43] Sorry, I don't know anything about rip1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:43] realshiva: a third mailserver ? or an mx host ? [01:43] !ripl [01:43] Sorry, I don't know anything about ripl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:44] std: what is ripl Linux? [01:44] i don't either [01:44] * michael_ hands ifireball a six pack of beer [01:44] its pretty cool here now :) [01:44] atoponce: Remote Initial Program Load [01:44] ifireball, having installed gnome-menus my /etc/xdg/menus is still missing applications menu... could you paste it so i can manually add it? [01:44] * michael_ dances around the channel a bit [01:44] dadehoog mails are on googlemail.com. serv1.hostA.tdl fetches the mails and should resend it to yahoo.com [01:45] std: never heard of it. what does it do? [01:45] realshiva: OK, BRB [01:45] std, do you mean how do you start a program when you log in? Or how you make another user on your network launch a program? [01:45] ifireball: after a flash of garbage and i could swear seeing half of a "gentoo" graphic, it loaded just fine. [01:45] atoponce: it is like pxe, but I tried pxelinux [01:45] ifireball: thank you SO MUCH for your help. so, the only thing changed from the default Gutsy install was the BusID and the driver=tdfx? === steven__ is now known as sayers [01:46] std: so, you're trying to boot and install a machine via pxe? [01:46] ifireball: i can't remember all the steps tried :/ [01:46] atoponec: no [01:46] I have steam already installed with Counter Strike on my Windows Partition how do I get it on my Ubuntu linux Partition? [01:46] ok so now i know it's not a question...but does anyone have any links to some cool Ubuntu themed Wallpapers? [01:46] how do i see the special graphics effects in ubutu 7.10 [01:46] How safe is it to enable the "gutsy-propsed" repository? [01:46] ? [01:46] calm: not very [01:46] is there any menu or something ? [01:47] atoponce: no ripl is diffrent [01:47] backgen, try looking on www.gnome-look.org - there will be some there :-) [01:47] Agiofws: right click on the desktop, select properties [01:47] LjL: What exactly goes in there? [01:47] whats the key combination for the cube ? [01:47] michael_: essentially is was the busid and tdfx, since it kept trying to use the wrong card and driver... [01:47] Agiofws click the desktop effects tab [01:47] std: then i can't help you. for pxe, however, you may want to check out ubuntuforums.org or ubuntu-tutorials.com. both have help with pxe [01:47] NumBeast, where is that ? [01:47] don't know about ripl [01:47] calm: it's fixes and such that need tested before they are moved to the main repo [01:47] no properties option [01:47] Mi laptop gets stucked and I can't hit any key, not even ctrl alt f2 or f3. Help, please. [01:47] kitche: Ah, thanks. [01:47] are you using pxe to boot from the net? [01:47] Agiofws, sorry right click desktop, then select change background [01:48] ifireball: got it. thanks again. === elband is now known as wassup [01:48] I'm learning new things every day. =) [01:48] calm: packages with bugfixes that, if they don't show any problems during a testing period, eventually end up in gutsy-updates. if they *do* show problems though... sometimes they're serious problems. [01:48] what is steam ? [01:48] Agiofws then select visual effects tab [01:48] ifireball, ? [01:48] mario, sounds like a hardware problem. [01:48] excuse me, is there a webpage where I can see the hash codes for the various ubuntu installs [01:48] michael_: cheers, have a nice ubuntuing... [01:48] NumBeast, that only has 3 options [01:48] twobits, you mean md5 sums? [01:48] Agoifws then you can choose what level of effects you want [01:48] livingdaylight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48795/ good luck! [01:48] can anyone else help me with ripling linux [01:48] yeah [01:48] i need to know the key combinations or what it does [01:48] sonicchao: I don't think so [01:49] lunar lamp: thanks! [01:49] Agiofws if you want more options, install the compiz settings package [01:49] mario, Did it happen right after an Ubuntu install? [01:49] xyb3r: welcome to #ubuntu [01:49] sonicchao:how do I find the problem [01:49] has code is not md5 [01:49] Agiofws: the cube is Ctrl+Alt+Left mouse button [01:49] [01:49] hey does anyone know if i can download a program that rotates my wallpapers kind of like the setting you can put on Macs? [01:49] [01:49] \ === chrometiger is now known as ChromeTiger_away [01:49] mario, wait, it freezes /while/ you're using the computer or /as soon as you turn it on? [01:49] well whatever code is applicable [01:49] !repeat | std [01:49] std: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience [01:49] std: stop spamming [01:49] i have hashtabs open right now [01:49] sinchchao: yes, before I had vista and never happened something like that [01:49] ifireball, when you said 'good luck' i suddenly got scared :) [01:50] sonicchao: when I am using it [01:50] gsr: welcome to #ubuntu [01:50] NumBeast, youhave to have compiz ? to gethe cube effect ? [01:50] !tab [01:50] You can use for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [01:50] backgen: there's a cmd line program to set your wallpaper, so it's very easy to write a script to do this [if you can't find one on the internet], if you're into that kind of thing. [01:50] sonichchao: specially when Im gettin some files from my home network [01:50] livingdaylight: well, its a matter of trust then... you are taking a file from a stranger :P [01:50] i have the answer whait [01:50] master_o1_master: welcome to #ubuntu [01:50] bobbob1016: welcome to #ubuntu [01:50] backgen: sort of a while [ 1 ]: sleep a random amount, then pick a file from this directory and set it as wallpaper [01:50] Blank_: welcome to #ubuntu [01:50] realshiva: ok ... sorry, can you explain what you're trying to do ..? pull mail from Gmail to your local machine, and forward it automatically to your Yahoo account ? [01:50] sonicchao: it is pretty weird and unpredictable [01:50] Agiofws, yes, you have to have compiz. But it comes default with 7.10, so you probably already have it [01:50] micheal: eeek, i have no clue how to script write :( [01:50] anubis1337: welcome to #ubuntu [01:51] hello === Blank_ is now known as Blank__ [01:51] Agiofws: but you need to install compiz-settings to get the control panel [01:51] mario, hmm...how long has this been happening? [01:51] can anyone help me with ripling linux? [01:51] Did you update your linux-image or another component before? [01:51] backgen: ok, then: i don't know of a program but i'd imagine a few minutes google searching for things like [ubuntu rotate wallpaper] will do it [01:51] another thing i'm curious about, is there any good, free backup software out there. For windows? (I want to back up before I install ubuntu). I'm wondering what other people have used to back up things like drivers etc. [01:51] micheal: hmm alright i could give it a try....i guess it couldn't really screw up my computer if i mess up could it? [01:51] jmdwyer: welcome to #ubuntu [01:51] micheal: thanks [01:51] backgen: nope, it could not. [01:51] reZo: welcome to #ubuntu [01:51] ifireball, i'm just not sure how to cp that into /etc/xdg/menus now? :s can you help me [01:51] sonicchao, no, my computer is 3 months old and happens only in ubuntu [01:52] backgen: no problem, let me know if you find one, i'll use it too :) [01:52] Why is shisohan welcoming everyone? Is this really necessary? [01:52] NumBeast: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2qxvTJksyuk [01:52] ok NumBeast whats my def. window manager [01:52] I just installed a new drive, I'm creating a partition and one option is "round to cylinders" that just means round the partitions to an even number of cylinders, right? [01:52] i just killed it ? [01:52] shisohan: despite the fact i've been here for a few months, thank you hehe [01:52] backgen: hah- first hit on google: [01:52] ericvw: welcome to #ubuntu [01:52] http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/01/random-wallpaper-in-gnome/ [01:52] mario, so you didn't update ubuntu before it started happening. [01:52] your a bot? [01:52] mario and SonicChao: I've had similar problems, but they vanished when I disabled compiz effects ... [01:52] i'd hate to be another person asking questions, but my friend's also had this problem: the bar at the top of every window is tiny... [01:52] im having some problems booting Ubuntu 7.10 so when someone gets a chance let me know and ill describe my problem [01:52] Agiofws: t's metacity, why [01:52] reZo, it's a bot and I don't get what it's purpose is :| [01:52] reZo: shisohan is a bot it's doesn't look official though [01:52] thought so hehe [01:52] mario, and dadehoog; I have to go. >: Good luck! [01:52] dadehoog, thanks for the advice [01:53] i just installed ubuntu and it refuses to acknowledge my nic and wireless card. they are both there though....any advice? [01:53] sonicchao, thanks anyway [01:53] dadehoog, what happened to you? [01:53] does anyone know how set up ssl for apache on gutsy? [01:53] livingdaylight: download as text file, then use "sudo" and "cp" to copy it to the right place and don't forget to set the right permissions with "chmod", I really gtg for now [01:53] Reading state information... Done [01:53] E: Couldn't find package compiz-settings [01:53] :) [01:54] !ccsm | Agiofws [01:54] has anyone here every experienced problems with ubuntu hanging up once gnome is started? [01:54] mario: no worries, it's not an awesome solution ... but ... System-> Preferences -> Appearance, click on the "Visual Effects" tab, and select "None". [01:54] anubis1337: yep [01:54] it just leaves a full-screen display of fading colors [01:54] i would really like to know what to do [01:54] Agiofws: look at my mive http://youtube.com/watch?v=2qxvTJksyuk [01:54] anubis1337: although mine was a blank screen [01:54] Can I mirror a specific ISO, or must I mirror the entire package? [01:54] ifireball, can i not first create a text file applications.menu and then open it with gedit and past it in? [01:54] shisohan: ping [01:54] brent1, The nic should be auto-detected, but what is your wireless card, try googling "(wifi card name) ubuntu", such as "bcm4300 ubuntu" [01:54] anubis1337: can you hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a login prompt? [01:55] :-[ [01:55] no [01:55] tried [01:55] can someone tell me how to create a text file? [01:55] mario: I had random hard locks where I couldn't do anything, and they appeared to be video related - because they got a whole lot worse when I started using dual screens [01:55] bye [01:55] livingdaylight: gedit [01:55] anubis1337: if you boot in recovery mode, can you get to a prompt? [01:55] how do i get a atheros card working on gutsy? t worked on fietsy [01:55] it just stops accessing the live cd altogether [01:55] Soskel, say more? [01:55] Agiofws: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion [01:55] brent1: lspci -v will tell you the chipset of ether nic and wireless card id then suggest searching ubuntuforums.org for someone who had similar problem [01:55] anubis1337: ah, so you don't actually have it installed yet? [01:55] anyone know of a way in linux to tell if I have a vector PDF file or just a standard one? [01:55] no [01:55] dadehoog, just a quick update on my spamassassin trouble. apparently you HAVE to LEAVE junk mail in the folder. If you empty it you lose all the learning. so I'll try that and see if it makes any difference [01:55] i want to get it working w/ the live cd before i go ahead and install [01:55] livingdaylight: open terminal and type in 'gedit' without qutoes [01:55] anubis1337: luckily i *just* went thru this over the last 48 hours. i'll be happy to give you some pointers. [01:55] i dont want a useless installation [01:55] Soskel, ok === amidaniel is now known as amidaniel|away [01:56] ok thanks id appreciate it [01:56] * Tm_T slaps amidaniel|away [01:56] Can I mirror a specific ISO, or must I mirror the entire package? [01:56] drew_chicago: ah right ... that's odd ... does that mean that spamassassin runs through that Junk Mail directory _every time_ it runs ? [01:56] stacey: normally just works maybe sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) [01:56] Agiofws: sorry, that's not the real name, but in synaptic to name/description search for compiz settings [01:56] How do I downgrade packages? "Force Version" in synaptic doesn't always seem to work. [01:56] micheal: ok so i think i've found a script to change my backgrounds...is the command prompt i enter it into just Terminal? [01:56] dadehoog, thats my guess [01:56] anubis1337: well, you won't even be able to install if you can't get to the GUI; so what you'll have to do is get the Alternate Install CD, and use the text-only installer. once that's done, you'll be able to log in and fix your xorg.conf file (which controls your graphics). [01:56] Soskel, sweet...and when i hit save it will ask me where i want it saved? [01:56] livingdaylight: yes [01:56] dadehoog, how did you disable compiz, because that's what you did, right? [01:56] livingday go to cosole and use cat > filename.txt or nano or use gedit kate [01:57] drew_chicago: that would likely be a bit of a performance hit ... but it's worth a try [01:57] backgen: what's the name of the script? [01:57] backgen (wondering if it's a python script, bash script, or executable, or what) [01:57] Gnome background changer [01:57] just to make sure, does this have anything to do with what architecture ISO im using? [01:57] dadehoog, I was manually clearing the junk folder because it was a pain to check for false junk when it had a bunch of emails. anyway its worth a try [01:57] Can I mirror a specific ISO, or must I mirror the entire package? [01:57] cause i treid both the 64 bit and 32 bit one [01:57] mario: As I said earlier dadehoog: mario: no worries, it's not an awesome solution ... but ... System-> Preferences -> Appearance, click on the "Visual Effects" tab, and select "None". [01:57] !group [01:57] both produce exact same results [01:57] Sorry, I don't know anything about group - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:57] hey, i can't set a network between the pcs in my network [01:58] drew_chicago: yeah, let me know how it goes eh ? [01:58] dadehoog, i already have none there, but thanks [01:58] neither using samba or nfs [01:58] with no aparent reason [01:58] dadehoog, will do. thanks again [01:58] anubis1337: no, it doesn't. when you download the image to burn form ubuntu.org, check the "I need the alternate install version" checkbox. [01:58] do i have to run compiz ? [01:58] anubis1337: you'll likely use the 32-bit i386 version. [01:58] thats what i did and it killed metacity [01:58] whats the compiz package settings name ? [01:58] drew_chicago: no worries, good luck [01:58] Agiofws, no you do not [01:58] ok thats what i thought as well [01:58] HELP [01:58] compizconfig-settings-manager - Compiz configuration settings manager [01:58] ? [01:58] Agiofws: yes [01:58] ok ill try the alternate install then [01:58] thank you [01:58] mario: and you're still getting hard lock-ups ? [01:58] backgen: ok, normally i would set this up manually to make it run at every startup, [01:58] i need to burn a 167 MB netinst cd but i only have dvds [01:58] ? [01:58] anubis1337: no problem, and good luck [01:58] Agiofws: compizconfig-settings-manager [01:59] is that a waste? [01:59] ok NumBeast no what ? [01:59] dadehoog, sometimes [01:59] micheal: ok so how do i do that? [01:59] AgiofwsL install it [01:59] dadehoog, as i said is unpredictable [01:59] Agiofws, if you don't want compiz, just system->prefs->appearance visual effects tab, and select none [01:59] i installed it [01:59] backgen: but the blog i mentioned to you talks about using Gnome's session management instead. [01:59] mario: have you installed any restricted-drivers ? eg. nvidia, ati, etc ? [01:59] Agiofws: so exactly what do you want? [01:59] backgen: as it sounds like you're more comfortable with the GUI, i'd look into using that to control the file instead. [01:59] backgen: lemme go look into it - you do so as well and see if you find out how to use "Gnome Session Management" to make that script run when you start gnome. [02:00] dadehoog, yes, my wireless [02:00] michael_, system->prefs->session , startup tab [02:00] nickrud: thanks :) [02:00] dadehoog, but that's not the graphic stuff [02:00] backgen: you catch that? [02:00] mario: yeah, what is your wireless card/nic ? and what did you have to install ? [02:01] micheal: eek not really, hahah i know this sounds pathetic but i don't even know where my Gnome is! [02:01] backgen: no problem. [02:01] dadehoog, no i did not install that, is an intel prowireless 3945 [02:01] backgen: are you in a graphical environment that looks kinda like windows? with a red power button icon at the top right? [02:01] micheal: yep [02:02] do i have to restart X NumBeast how do i set some effects ? [02:02] backgen: great. THAT environment is "Gnome". it's the name of the graphical window manager that you're running. [02:02] micheal: ah....ok i see [02:02] backgen: it starts up when you turn on the computer. So: click on the "System" menu at the top left, then Preferences, then Sessions [02:02] Agiofws: in the visual effects tab, have you tried selecting one? [02:02] go to the Startup tab, click "Add" to add a new program to run on startup of Gnome, and browse to find the file you downloaded. [02:02] micheal: ok got it [02:03] gnome is the desktop environment, not window manager [02:03] backgen: and apparently, this will start it up next time you log in. [02:03] unitheory: i've always been a little hazy on the distinction; is X the window manager, then? and if so, what's an alternative? [02:03] ifireball, that worked! [02:03] michael_, probably compiz or metacity is the window manager depending on whether effects are enabled [02:03] micheal: ok so do i add it as a startup program? [02:04] backgen: yep. [02:04] michael_: X is the server that the graphical programs run on [02:04] unitheory: if i've just installed Gutsy, would metacity be the manager? [02:04] unitheory: gnome and kde are generally called window managers [02:04] michael_, yes, if you dont have effects enabled [02:04] kitche: ok, so if metacity is the Window Manager, and Gnome is the Desktop, what is X called? [02:04] michael_: X [02:04] michael_, the window manager draws the borders and title bar, provides the mechanism that allows you to move them with the mouse [02:04] kitche: lol, right [02:05] michael_: it's just the graphical server you can say === sunogbaga is now known as slowlearner [02:05] nickrud: thanks for the clarification. While the desktop environment provides the menus, panels, desktop, trash, etc? [02:05] alrighty...so i just copy paste the entire script into the command line? [02:05] michael_, exactly [02:05] backgen: no, not quite [02:05] Jack_Sparrow, so are desktop environment and window manager the same? === etotheipi is now known as _etotheip [02:06] i didnt think so [02:06] micheal: haha thank god, that seemed a bit insane [02:06] michael_: well a window manager can do panels and menus some can at least [02:06] backgen: have you downloaded the Gnome Background Changer script (or whatever it's called) as a file to your Desktop? [02:06] You are splitting hairs.. [02:06] kitche/Jack_Sparrow: good enough description for me. [02:07] micheal: yup [02:07] is it dead, or lag? [02:08] !wifi [02:08] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [02:08] i don't want to have the ubuntu help every time i start ubuntu [02:08] HELP, please [02:08] backgen: ok. the Gnome Background Changer webpage says to now put that program somewhere permanent. I'd suggest putting it in /usr/local/bin, which is a folder. if you have a command line available, [02:08] any good open source gui to recommend for postgresql [02:08] pike u dont have internet, is there a way to do that from windows? [02:08] Jack_Sparrow, it is important to separate out the window manager, emerald vs metacity for exampel [02:09] i found pdaccess to be decent for my needs but cant find any doc [02:09] backgen: which you can get via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal, [02:09] backgen: you can type: [02:09] t [02:09] nickrud: emerald is not a window manager anyways it's just a window decorator [02:09] nickrud: agreed... but in general people misuse the term... wm for Desktop [02:09] sudo mv "~/Desktop/whateverTheFileWasNamed" /usr/local/bin [02:10] kitche, then compiz is providing the window manager function as well as the compositing? [02:10] hello every one [02:10] please i need help i keep gettin an error message saying that there is No space left on device when trying to use the make command, im using live cd on 7.04 [02:10] this means "move the file into the /usr/local/bin directory, and since that directory is owned by the Administrator, i used "sudo" to gain Administrator priveleges for a minute. [02:10] nickrud: yeah [02:10] hey guys, I know you can help me, how can I disable the ubuntu helo everytime i start the desktop? [02:10] and i cant make the install of ubuntu becausei need to update my graphics drivers so that im able to press the next buttons in the install [02:10] kitche, ah, my first new thing for the night, thanks [02:10] yaman: you might have better luck using the alternate installer cd [02:10] micheal: ok let me give that a try [02:11] !alternate | yaman [02:11] yaman: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal [02:11] mario, you mean when you start firefox? [02:11] unitheory, no, I mean when i log into ubuntu [02:11] mario: You want it to not ask for user name and pass when you boot up? [02:11] yaman: also, if you hold alt and click and move your mouse, it should move the window around, so u should be able to get at the next buttons [02:11] ahh!!! [02:12] lol [02:12] jack_sparrow, no, i already have that, thanks, I mean when i get to see the desktop the help just pops up [02:12] I have a strange blinking square on top left hand corner of my desktop how can I determine what program this is ?? [02:12] MasterShrek: thank [02:12] mario: That doesnt happen for most of us so trying to figure out what is happeneing there [02:13] drgeb: a messy way is to do a ps output of all running programs then run 'xkill', click on the icon to kill it, then run ps again, and do a diff on the two outputs to see what has changed. [02:13] ps gax > fileOne [02:13] micheal: hmm it says it's not recognizing the command [02:13] xkill [click on square] [02:13] ps gax > fileTwo [02:13] diff fileOne fileTwo [02:13] atoponce, hfs mounting doesn't work [02:13] jack_sparrow, I know is not big deal but i dont know how to stop it [02:13] backgen: which command? [02:13] backgen: sudo? mv? [02:13] hola === frosty is now known as el_tipico_chilen [02:13] hola [02:14] alguien habla español === el_tipico_chilen is now known as tipical_chilean [02:14] drg!es | el_tipico_chilen welcome :) [02:14] are there any gui recommend to run postgresql? [02:14] is SAS just a better version of SATA Harddrives? [02:14] lol [02:14] YO [02:14] el_tipico_chilen: hay otros channels en que se hablan espanol, este es solo para ingles [02:14] ahora si [02:14] mario: You get the ubuntu help center every time you login? [02:14] quien habla español [02:14] michael_ [02:14] !es | tipical_chilean [02:14] tipical_chilean: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda. [02:14] suck my dick [02:14] ProN00b: have you tried hfsplus? [02:14] jack_sparrow, yes, man that is the name [02:14] micheal: i think its mv, because it asked me for my password for sudo [02:15] jack_sparrow, how can i stop it? [02:15] !language | tipical_chilean [02:15] tipical_chilean: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [02:15] backgen: jfj! [02:15] backgen: i mean, "huh!"... sorry [02:15] hahaha [02:15] well i type the command in [02:15] hi: i've been searching the forum for a half hour to no avail. how do I install the PEAR package? i already have installed apache2/php5 with apt... thanks in advance! [02:16] micheal: then terminal says [sudo] password for (username) [02:16] mario: how long has it done this.. what was the last thing you installed when it started etc. [02:16] ok, um so you typed sudo mv "~/Desktop/gbchange" /usr/local/bin, and it prompted you for your password, and then it gave you an error? === erwin is now known as slowlearner [02:16] voltHeir, I believe you're looking for php-pear [02:17] =/ [02:17] ok lemme try [02:17] nickrud: thanks! [02:17] voltHeir, take a look at it's description, many of the pear modules are already packaged [02:17] jack_sparrow, i think since i installed it [02:17] nickrud: will do. is there a synaptic package listing somewhere? [02:17] voltHeir, yes, you'll find it under php-pear :) [02:17] micheal: yup except thats not the name of the file though...wait where did you get your script from? [02:18] jack_sparrow, i think since i installed......i dont remember [02:18] jack_sparrow, how can i tell [02:18] backgen: i assuemd you were using the one off the blogt that i sent you to. [02:18] can you copy and paste what you typed and what error it gave you? [02:18] nickrud: i mean more generally - like the name of packages that i can use apt to get, so i don't have to come to IRC to find the answer 'php-pear' :D [02:18] oooh [02:18] mario: If that is true you have a bad install as that is NOT what the rest of us have.. What about installing from repos other than Ubuntu official ones? [02:18] micheal: i think i may have gone to a different one by mistake, can you send me the blog again please? [02:18] help! me [02:19] you help me too [02:19] ok ok [02:19] go go go [02:19] backgen: sure. and, my mistake - i just tried to run the command i todl you to run and i got an error as well. stupid me. [02:19] voltHeir, lol, do aptitude search php5-* in a terminal, I think that will list them all [02:19] voltHeir: it depends - on which repositories you have enabled - but for your setup, it should be listed in Synaptic (there's a search function, etc.) [02:19] jack_sparrow, that didn't happen [02:19] anyway, here's the link: [02:19] http://www.tu-harburg.de/~vkv/gbgchange/ [02:19] Muse: u first [02:19] jack_sparrow, I install everything from the synaptic [02:19] but if you found another one, we can work with that one instead! [02:19] Muse: i am guy [02:20] ok, help me wit something [02:20] nickrud, dadehoog - i am an ubuntu noob. thanks to both of you! [02:20] micheal: well thats strange...thats the same blog post i was using actually [02:20] also debian noob :) [02:20] Muse: what? [02:20] mario: Good choice... but needed to ask.. as long as you dint alter or add special repos we can rule that out [02:20] jack_sparrow, I know is not complicated to fix but how to find out? i'm rather a newbie here [02:20] When I scan a port with ubuntu network tools it tells me the port is open, but when I check it with http://www.canyouseeme.org/ it seems to be closed..why? [02:20] Muse: u go first then u help me [02:20] countx: I'm having problems with my external hard-disk... it doesn't show in windows or linux or any other system.. everytime it says "Cannot recognize this device" [02:20] wait how did you download the script then? [02:20] sorry backgen, disappeared for a second [02:21] Muse: u try format? [02:21] backgen: what were you asking? [02:21] countx: computer doesn't see it. how can i format it [02:21] hey has anyone used squirrelmail?! [02:21] countx: also there is good data in it, like 160gig of data, i dont want to loose those. [02:21] Muse: in windoze there is 'computer management' [02:21] micheal: how did you download the script then? because when i press on the download link at the bottom of the blog it brings me to another webpage with the entire script there [02:21] voltHeir, you really gotta get up on the apt commands, then, a fair start is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto [02:21] thank you sir :) [02:22] countx: no usb device there.. i tried from different pcs. external hdd doesnt seem to work... [02:22] guys how does one remove a directory? [02:22] mario: I dont have an answer... have not seen that before and it is not part of the standard install.. You are not running inside any vm or anything right, normal hard drive install etc? [02:22] Muse: it is new? [02:22] backgen: if you're using Firefox, right click the link and choose "Save File As". [02:22] i have a uselss directory Thunar and Xfce4 in my /etc/xdg but sudo rm wont' do it [02:22] livingdaylight, "rmdir" [02:22] livingdaylight rmdir [02:22] thx guys [02:22] backgen: save it to your desktop as "gbchange". [02:22] micheal: ok got it [02:22] livingdaylight, make sure the directory is empty. [02:23] Muse: maybe u are under warranty? [02:23] micheal: i'll try the command prompt again then [02:23] A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept. [02:23] backgen: please spell my name "michael", as it will then be highlighted in my screen for easier finding your comments :) [02:23] livingdaylight 'rm -r' will work too. [02:23] is anyone aware of a good vocab testing tool and verb form testing tool ? ideally for french ... that _isn't_ reliant on KDE/Qt ? [02:23] jack_sparrow, the only thing is i have been cpying files from another pc [02:23] anyway, countx . you shoot [02:23] michael: oh woops sorry [02:23] stunatra, exactly, its just told me the directory is not empty... is ther not a way of just deleting it anyways? [02:23] backgen: the command i gave you earlier was crap, unfortunately - you'll need to do this instead: [02:23] Muse: i broke my internet [02:24] livingdaylight, I'm not sure. You could try deleting each file one by one. [02:24] mario: What files... and have you been using root access to do it? [02:24] ok [02:24] Muse: laptop with gutsy cant connect to wired or wireless [02:24] why [02:24] Muse: was working just a second ago, i tried restart...nothing [02:24] backgen: do this instead, at the terminal: [02:24] jack_sparrow, no, i dont think so, just mp3s and documents and pictures [02:24] backgen: cd Desktop [02:24] dadehoog sry, yes i want to grap the mails from gmail and put it into yahoo account [02:24] mario: You also didnt answer my other question.. this is a regular hard drive install.. not vm, not wubi none of that.. [02:24] backgen: sudo mv gbchange /usr/local/bin [02:25] backgen: that should work without errors :) [02:25] stunatra, voltHeir 's method 'rm -r takes care of it all at once [02:25] voltHeir, thx [02:25] countx: you need to pick the wireless router brand in the linux [02:25] realshiva: can't you add a forward in your gmail web interface to forward to your yahoo email ? [02:25] np [02:25] jack_sparrow, sorry, no no VMs [02:25] Good to know, voltHeir, thanks. [02:25] michael: ok let me try that right now [02:25] countx: in linux you dont have to restart to fix stuff, its not windows man. lol [02:26] in linux you need to configure & fix, instead of restarting.. [02:26] Muse: when i click manual config, it opens a window with nothing in it but a white box [02:26] mario: I dont have an answer... [02:27] stunatra, imagine having a directory with hundreds of stuff in it... having to delte one by one just so one can delete the directoy would be too much work [02:27] Muse: ok after like 2 mins it just came up [02:27] michael: ah ha...new problem now it says No such file or Directory [02:27] countx: there is somewhere I remember to pick the "Type" of wireless connection you got... and back then i picked one of them that worked for me, the other options didn't make my internet up.... That what i remember, now you go and ask an expert. i'm just a newbie hehe [02:27] Muse: its acting very slow and everything is greyed out [02:27] livingdaylight, Yeah I know. I was sure there was a command to delete all of the files and the dir, but wasn't sure what it was. [02:27] backgen: awesome :) firefox may have saved it as "gbchange.htm" instead of "gbchange" just to be ornery. [02:27] voltHeir, why does the -r after dir name remove dire + all its contents [02:28] if you click on "Places -> Desktop", do you see any files in the window that comes up? [02:28] Muse: i would use wired preferbly if it worked :( [02:28] livingdaylight, thanks to voltHeir we both know :) [02:28] dadehoog thats not that what i want to do :-) [02:28] [the Gnome "Places" menu at the top of the screen] [02:28] michael: yeh but i tried the .htm too and it told me the same thing [02:28] stunatra, :D its great learning stuff eh!? [02:28] i took gmail and yahoo to explain you what i want to do [02:28] livingdaylight, it sure is! [02:29] backgen: copy and paste this and see if it works: [02:29] cd [02:29] cd Desktop [02:29] mv *gbchange* gbchange [02:29] stunatra, livingdaylight: the -r means 'recursive' - it will delete the directory's subcontents (including subdirectories and their contents), then the directory itself [02:29] sudo mv gbchange /usr/local/bin [02:29] [that's all] [02:29] Hello all, I had some issues sharing a printer from fesity to gutsy. On gutsy I can see the printer on the feisty machine when I try to create a new printer, but when I check the conection I get a No Conection error. [02:29] I have a new drive, and I formatted it via GParted. I found the UUID, and I put it in my fstab, and no luck. I added /dev/sdc1 which is it's location, is there anything I'm missing that way? [02:29] ahh voltHeir, thanks again. I will put that in my notes. [02:29] livingdaylight, stunatra: you can add a '-f' to not get the delete prompt for each subcontent, but this is very *VERY* dangerous [02:30] does anyone know when is the Flash plugin going to be alright again...? [02:30] backgen: this is renaming the file to "gbchange" first, assuming it's got the word "gbchange" somewhere in the name currently. [02:30] voltHeir, recursive, right, good word, that will help me remember the command for future reference, thx bro [02:30] np [02:30] Muse: having no internet on my laptop scares me [02:30] countx: haha. [02:31] Muse: i upload new songs and internet break :(((( [02:31] bobbob1016, have you given it a mount point? [02:31] countx: live with it, or see what might cause the problem really... you can't go and say "My internet isn't working" You need to be more specific of what might cause this problem... sorry i couldn't be much of a help, but hopefuly an expert here will help you. [02:31] countx: as I said before, i'm just a newbie like you! :p [02:31] Muse: waa D: [02:31] micheal argh!!! it's still not working [02:31] backgen: ok, we'll figure it out. what's the error? [02:32] !doesntwork [02:32] Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. [02:32] michael: ok so i type in cd and cd Desktop and thats fine [02:32] michael: but then i type in mv *gbgchange*gbgchange (and i've tried every version of the file name...with .htm and not) [02:32] okay im installing GWF ..... the widget factory....i unpacked the tarball........im root right now .....and i type ./comfigure and it goes thro some stuff then says c compiler works, NO..... error creating executables [02:32] ere4si, I gave it /media/HD3. It doesn't show on the desktop though. [02:33] When I scan a port with ubuntu network tools it tells me the port is open, but when I check it with http://www.canyouseeme.org/ it seems to be closed..why? [02:33] livingdaylight, stunatra: "man rm" in the terminal ;) this helps too =) [02:33] backgen: was there a space between the second star and the secfond "gbchange", like "*gbgchange* gbgchange"? [02:33] thanks, voltHeir :) [02:33] michael: and then it says "missing destination file operand after 'gbgchange*gbgchange' [02:33] bobbob1016, try in terminal sudo mount -v /media/HD3 [02:33] voltHeir, LOL i was just doing a 'man' on eclair but didn't have anything... gonna try man rm now [02:34] askand: some ports will be open on the 127.0.0.0, and 192.168.0.0 interfaces - but closed on others ... [02:34] :) man rocks da house [02:34] michael: no...uh oh was there supposed to be? [02:34] askand: and routers/firewalls in the interim may well be blocking the external access [02:34] backgen: yep. what "mv *x* y" does is "move anything containing 'x' to be called 'y' instead." [02:34] however, backgen, i have some more bad news... [02:34] bobbob1016, that should have been sudo mount -v /dev/sdc1 /media/HD3 [02:34] backgen: i am doing this concurrently with you to make sure things make sense, and i got a few steps ahead and the script is giving an error. it looks like the author didn't test it very well. [02:35] dadehoog: hrm ok... the strange thing is I opened two ports in my router..one for torrents and one for direct connect...the torrentport works but the direct connect port wont :/ [02:35] Hey [02:35] oh no!!! [02:35] ere4si, It mounts, I just don't see it on the desktop [02:35] Is any one alive ? [02:35] countx: aww [02:35] backgen: it just might work for you, but to save you time, how about instead: [02:35] dadehoog, bro... i got my applications menu back... figured it out bro! [02:35] michael: haha and i just typed in the full command with sudo and i think it worked too... [02:35] askand: when you say "opened in your router" you mean enabled port forwarding to your Ubuntu machine ? [02:36] backgen: ok, well why not try the last couple steps and see if you get an error :) [02:36] livingdaylight: well done, what was the problem, and the solution ? [02:36] dadehoog: yes [02:36] michael: alrighty then so what are those? [02:36] backgen: type this: sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/gbchange [or whatever youc alled it!] [02:36] Is libmtp integrated into gnome/nautilus? [02:36] askand: what's "direct connect" exactly ? [02:36] this means "as Administrator, I want to say that gbchange is a program that can be run, not just a filel that can be read." [02:36] becasue somehow ubuntu is talking to my libmtp-only device [02:36] Muse: no suggestion? [02:37] dadehoog, /etc/xdg/menus was missing a applications.menu script Got someone to give /paste me their copy which i added and presto, bob's your uncle [02:37] michael: ok just did, and it seems fine, no error messages [02:37] Muse: it is still now working [02:37] If anyone can help me, I am a student and I got to interview any one working in computers for a damn project a teacher gave me [02:37] backgen: great. last thing to type is just: gbchange [02:37] dadehoog: hmm in this case it is the linux dc++ client [02:37] bobbob1016, in config editor there is an option to show volumes on the desktop - is that checked? [02:37] backgen: likely it will vomit an error message [02:37] michael: and how right you are... [02:37] ere4si, I'd assume so, my other drives show up on the desktop. [02:37] ere4si, I remember setting it a while ago. [02:37] askand: right, you've double-checked your router configuration ? [02:37] backgen: ok, great :) at least you've learned a little about the command line! here's what i suggest: [02:38] how do you log into root? [02:38] michael: Can;t locate Gnome 2 bla bla bla... === netdemon is now known as NeT_DeMoN [02:38] hey who has *just* installed and not changed anything that has to do with synaptic or software sources or anything like that? [02:38] hello all [02:38] indeed i did!!! thanks alot [02:38] backgen: i'll go find one that DOES work, you sit tight, and i'll come back and walk you thru the install. sound good? [02:38] I don't want the Ubuntu help center to start everytime i log into ubuntu! Help, please [02:38] i want to know what a certain file looks like by default [02:38] backgen: (yeah that's the error I got too.) [02:38] bobbob1016, add the mount point to the /etc/fstab entry for the volume then [02:38] michael: oh my goodness thank you so much!!! [02:38] askand: what ports appear to be open (when coming from the external interface) ? [02:38] dadehoog: yep..cant understand why it doesnt work..someone told me the isp might have blocked that port but I have tried several differen.. [02:38] backgen: sure, i just got a ton of help from somebody else on this channel, it'll be good karma :) [02:38] ere4si, It's already there [02:38] Help me please :'( [02:38] backgen: sit tight, be right back [02:38] anyone how i can get the wireless internet working on my laptop? [02:38] how do you log into root??? [02:39] michael: do you think if we suggest this to some people develloping the next upgrade for Ubuntu they'll intergrate it? [02:39] askand: it's possible ... [02:39] dadehoog: the port that appear ro be open is the port for deluge 6881 [02:39] !sudo [02:39] sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. [02:39] NeT_DeMoN: you don't, use sudo instead [02:39] ok [02:39] NeT_DeMoN: !sudo [02:39] dadehoog, the fun with linux is if you break it yoiu can fix it... although they do say if it aint' broke don't fix it, heh? [02:39] Does AnyOne have some time to spend answering a few questions about is job in computers ... [02:39] hime: i have an hp pavilion, if you have that laptop maybe i can help you [02:39] bobbob1016, does the volume show up when you browse to it using nautilus? [02:39] backgen: maybe - anything to make the desktop experience more pleasant is a good candidate for getting included :) [02:39] NeT_DeMoN: ubuntu locks the root account. cant brute force a computer without knowing the user's username too if the root account is locked :) [02:39] mario: aww i have a acer [02:39] Ar3s: whats up? this isnt really the channel for that [02:39] I don't want the Ubuntu help center to start everytime i log into ubuntu! Help, please! [02:40] Ar3s, is english your first language? [02:40] askand: right, and is the service on the other port runnign ? [02:40] Muse: im still getting nothing :( [02:40] hime:sorry and good luck [02:40] Which channel should I use ? [02:40] macogw, he's doing market research? [02:40] mario: well can you tell me what you did on yours? [02:40] ere4si, Yes, if I go to /media/HD3 manually, I can see it, add files and whatever. It isn't on the desktop or sidebar though. [02:40] Ar3s: #ubuntu-offtopic [02:40] Ar3s: ubuntu-offtopic [02:40] dadehoog: yep [02:40] ty all ^^ [02:40] mario, set up the desktop the way you want it to boot, then system->prefs->session, sessions option tab [02:40] hime: it was pretty simple [02:40] livingdaylight: *shrug* [02:40] bobbob1016, brb [02:40] and sorry for bothering [02:40] hime: i did not have to do anything [02:40] askand: can you run a "netstat -a" from the terminal on your ubuntu machine and post the output to pastebin ? [02:41] mario: oh :| [02:41] has anyone here just installed and not changed anything in their system > administration > software sources yet? [02:41] i want to know what a certain config file looks like by default [02:41] anyone help? i cant connect to the internet or LAN or my wireless on ubuntu gutsy [02:41] Ar3s, didn't bother me, but they're very strict about this and other matters in here.... purely business here my friend you know? [02:41] macogw: no, but I have a fair idea of what sources.list looks like before fiddling. What's your question? [02:41] nickrud: the ubuntu help center does not appear there to be unchecked [02:41] Does anyone know how to fix a user permissions on cedega, I can't install any games due to admin rights [02:42] mario, like I said, set up the desktop the way you want it to start (ie, close the help center) then save the session [02:42] is there a program that can automatically detect wireless networks? [02:42] hay [02:42] helo [02:42] dadehoog: http://pastebin.com/d77c2452f [02:42] Yeah I understand no problem ^^ [02:42] bim: well that's not the file i'm wondering about ;) it's just that when popularity contest gets turned on, it's through there. im wondering if the /etc/popularity-contest.conf 1) exists by default and 2) has the PARTICIPATE="no" line in by default [02:42] hime: the network manager will do that by default. [02:42] macogw, which sources list? [02:42] Bye all [02:42] macogw: oh, well, I fail that test. [02:42] Trying to get wireless going on an HP laptop with the Intel 4965 chipset. So far, no love [02:43] nickrud, that's the best idea i have heard about it, THANKS a lot, i should have guessed [02:43] can any one help me with my sound driver problems???? [02:43] except that I doubt that I've changed mine ... [02:43] macogw, lol [02:43] bobbob1016, did you chmod 777 /media/HD3 ? [02:43] Any ever chain one 4-port router to another with the first being connected to cable modem? My laptop will not find IP for VPN when plugged into second router [02:43] bim: i know there's a default config in another dir, and then /etc/popularity-contest.conf overrides it, but i dont know if that file is *created* when you check the box, or if it already exists and just agrees with the default "no" [02:43] LOL @ /etc/popularity-contest.conf [02:43] macocg: looks like the answers are 'yes' and 'yes'. [02:43] dadehoog: hrm it doesnt tell me the port is closed really..i get "I could not see your service, connection timed out" [02:43] askand: sorry, it scrolled off your buffer ... could you do "netstat -tul" for me ? [02:44] bim: so before checking the box it exists and says no? [02:44] askand: that should be a shorter output for pastebin [02:44] right. I've never checked the box, and my file exists, and says no. [02:44] bim: thank you [02:44] nickrud, see ya dude, greetings from colombia [02:44] macogw: no problem. How can anyone follow a conversation in all this traffic? [02:44] ere4si, Didn't work, I chmoded it, and no luck. [02:45] * NeT_DeMoN stabs sound card with a virtual knife :P [02:45] mario, greets from LA :) [02:45] dadehoog: here it is, thanks for helping! http://pastebin.com/d280cdd80 [02:45] bobbob1016, sudo chmod? [02:45] ere4si, Yes. [02:45] askand: no worries, right ... so which port is the second service supposed to be listening on ? [02:45] hey random question, are there any other built in things like "fortune" [02:45] I'm going to install R and use it, anyone know how to? or where? [02:45] dadehoog: 4444 [02:45] ya know how you can type "fortune" into terminal and it outputs a random saying [02:46] are there any other hidden type things? [02:46] bobbob1016, try with sudo chmod -v to find out why it doesn't work [02:46] askand: well, it certainly seems to be listening on port 4444 (tcp) on all interfaces ... [02:46] bim, what chat client are you running? If it's pidgin, replace it with irssi or xchat. They help a lot [02:46] I'm trying to compile something with -static, but it complains "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXaw" [02:46] r3n0c: hmm nope fortune is a program though not built into the shell [02:46] ere4si, I mean it isn't working as in nothing on the desktop. The chmod was fine. [02:46] it works if I leave out -static [02:46] kind of a wierd problem, more annoying then anything.. but, every time i restart my pc, my panels seem to always rearrange the icons to completely different then how i set them.. any idea how i can stop it? [02:46] <[Billy]> how do u find a list of ur hardware through the terminal, ie graphics card (linux noob) [02:46] r3n0c: ddate ;) [02:46] lol [02:46] hi, noob question. I know this is possible. when I'm ssh'ed into a gutsy server (from a feisty desktop), how can I edit a file with gedit (for example)? I don't know what terms to search for to figure it out on my own [02:46] [Billy]: lshw [02:47] are there any other things that come packaged with ubuntu 7.10 like fortune? [02:47] <[Billy]> thanks [02:47] bobbob1016, is it listed under places? [02:47] askand: can you telnet to port 4444 from the ubuntu machine using the network interface ? eg. "telnet 192.168.0.2 4444" [02:47] billy: lspci [02:47] capouais: you can't check out nano though unless you setup X tunneling [02:47] Why is ssh faster than SMB and FTP? [02:47] [Billy]: try lspci [02:47] hello my friend's! (Y) [02:47] ere4si, No. [02:47] NeT_DeMoN, ximpul: that just lists what's on the pci bus though. try lshw [02:47] ljl: ok [02:47] this is ubuntu brasil? [02:47] dadehoog: that gets me connected [02:48] !br | roots_ [02:48] kitche: do I need to install X on the server for tunneling? [02:48] roots_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [02:48] capouais: yeah [02:48] backgen: still looking... [02:48] dadehoog: ok ... it's looking more and more like a router/firewall issue [02:48] ok! thank's dude... greatz! [02:48] muito obrigado.. [02:48] askand: what's your network / internet setup look like ? [02:48] dadehoog, you're welcome [02:48] kitche: thanks, I'll do some research on tunneling [02:48] anyone help get me started with R statistical software in ubuntu [02:48] ? [02:48] dadehoog: laptop to a wireless router with adsl [02:48] LjL: oh look at that, seems like my age is getting to me ;) tx [02:48] michael: ok i'm looking to add the idea to the ideapool right now [02:49] capouais: yeha you will have to anyways iscne I don't know how to do it myself without using freenx [02:49] bobbob1016, your fstab entry looks something like /dev/sdc /media/HD3 ext3 defaults 0 0 ? [02:49] ximpul: well, it's pretty ubuntu specific i think, while lspci is certainly to be found on most other distributions as well [02:49] askand: yeah ... ubuntu seems correctly configured. It looks most likely to be an issue with your router ... [02:49] ere4si, Yes. [02:49] dadehoog: yep : / [02:50] i'm considering making the switch from winxp to ubuntu, but i need programs for these tasks: convert an avi or other video file to a normal video dvd (like Nero), also need a good equivalent for Dreamweaver with a good code view, and also an equivalent of Winamp and mIrc [02:50] bobbob1016, I'm going of this - http://www.smorgasbord.net/2007/06/29/how-to-install-second-hard-drive-in-ubuntu-linux/ [02:50] askand: you've tried ports other than 4444 ? [02:50] so basically what's the best linux equivalent of Nero, Dreamweaver, winamp and mIrc? [02:50] dadehoog: yea..can I have ports with 5 numbers in? [02:50] like 23412? [02:50] Sonja: xmms audiacous is pretty close to winamp as your going to get really [02:50] !equivalents > Sonja (Sonja, see the private message from Ubotu) [02:50] is it possible to copy a file from one director to another, interrupt the process then resume? [02:51] askand: yep, as long as they're less than around 65000 [02:51] amarok/ or something [02:51] how can i build or install a static version of libxaw? [02:51] whats the sudo command for the lshw command sudo | lshw??? [02:51] dadehoog: ah ok...but if I would try to open another port, what would you recommend it to be? Or it doesnt matter? [02:51] Is there no decent alternative to KLibido?? [02:51] Sonja: Nero, gnomebaker or something is what's installed by default, i believe. dreamweaver, check out kompozer. winamp, well there are many players, ask ubotu about !players. mirc... aren't you on it right now? ;) x-chat is pretty full featured [02:52] askand: be selective in the port numbers you select, because 4444 is known as a likely trojan port - so ISPs may well filter traffic on some ports known to be potentially nasty [02:52] SpookyET, use "diff" in terminal [02:52] askand: use the port recommended by the server program ... otherwise 8888 should be ok ... [02:52] ere4si, Not working. I tried on ubuntuguide.org, and that didn't work, which is why I asked here. [02:52] dadehoog: oh ok.. ill try [02:52] marx2k: pimppa? [02:52] pimppa, eh? Let me search for that... [02:53] !info pimppa [02:53] pimppa: powerful tool to loot binaries from newsgroups smartly. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.8-0.1 (gutsy), package size 187 kB, installed size 800 kB [02:53] i have a bluetooth network adapter, a wireless network adapter and a PCI netword adapter. each of these adapters connect to different network with different privileges, some websites are block when using one but not on the others, is there anyway to choose which connection i would like to be active without disabling other devices? [02:53] hey guys what application opens .rar again? [02:53] ere4si: diff? [02:53] !rar > KiD_ChAoS (KiD_ChAoS, see the private message from Ubotu) [02:53] bobbob1016, can you in terminal fdisk -l and paste the result? [02:53] LjL have you tried it and like it? [02:53] marx2k: no, it's just the only one i can see for GNOME/GTK [02:53] SpookyET, type man diff in a terminal [02:53] diff is or comparing 2 files [02:54] I want to resume a copy [02:54] oh ok hehehe (Im in KDE, but that's fine... Ill try it out. THanks!) [02:54] hello, how do we change the screen resolution in ubuntu? [02:54] marx2k: oh. i thought you were asking for an alternative to klibido as in, a non-kde equivalent [02:54] dadehoog: in thedirectconnect client..it wants me to fill in three ports; TCP, UDP and TLS [02:55] dadehoog: what would tls be? [02:55] LjL: Well, Im asking for a KDE or Gnome KLibido equivalent that might have the features I am looking for [02:55] the graphics redendered on my machine is pretty poor [02:55] I am using fiesty.. [02:55] TLS is a secure TCP equivalent [02:55] Intel 865 chipset [02:56] ere4si, sudo fdisk -l gives me http://pastebin.ca/823030 fdisk -l gives me nothing [02:56] Hi all Im going to install Ubuntu and Windows XP on my system again the problem s I have one IDE drive and one SATA drive could anyone recommend what would be the proper way to do this? Do I need a /boot partition? [02:56] <|_ocke> ok so i have my fglrx drivers working, but compiz says i have no composite extension, how can i fix that [02:57] marx2k: well there aren't that many choices anyway, "apt-cache search newsgroup binar" will list them all. nzb is qt4 [02:57] |_ocke, sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl, log out and back in [02:58] bobbob1016, where did you get the uuid for the volume? [02:58] stupids [02:58] blkid will tell you the uuid. [02:58] ere4si, sudo vol_id -u /dev/sdc1 [02:58] im new to linux in general and I need some help [02:58] k [02:58] ere4si, sudo vol_id -u /dev/sdc gives me nothing [02:59] bobbob1016: `blkid' [02:59] Murdoc650: ask [02:59] just installed ubuntu 7.10 but everytime i install my graphics drivers and restart it wont boot [02:59] LjL: pimppa does not start on my machine. crashes with a MySQL error :/ [02:59] it makes me reinstall everything all over again [02:59] bobbob1016, ls /dev/disk-* , choose your poisong [02:59] bobbob1016, sdc is the disk - sdc1 is the partition [03:00] bobbob1016, erm, that is, ls /dev/disk/by-* [03:00] cafuego, The disk doesn't show up in the list when I do blkid [03:00] Murdoc650, how are you trying to install your graphics drivers? [03:00] ere4si, I know sdc vs sdc1, sdc doesn't give me a UUID [03:01] bobbob1016, just saying you want to mount partitions not disks [03:01] Murdoc650: which card do you have and which packages did you attempt installing from synaptic? [03:01] bobbob1016: Correct. [03:01] i'm having trouble installing ubuntu 7.10 - the installer gets to where it's copying files (with the percent bar) and then it suddenly disappears off the screen without an error message [03:01] heh nzb seems REALLY light [03:01] It seems like klibido is the best of them [03:01] ere4si, I know, I am mounting sdc1, not sdc. I said sdc didn't give me a result in the vol_id, sdc1 did. I wasn't sure what you were asking. [03:02] k [03:02] like it just quits copying. it has happened anywhere from 30% to 90% [03:02] nerbs, have you run the disk check routine in the start menu? [03:03] bobbob1016, does ls /media/HD3 give a result? [03:03] michael: alright just added the idea to the idea pool forum...i hope it gets some support and we might just see it in heron! [03:03] yeah. it says it's okay. i've tried re-burning it and using different media. i checked the md5 sum of the iso matches the website. [03:03] Murdoc650, please speak in the channel... i might not be able to help, but other people might. so you're saying that you install the driver for your nvidia 7900GTX card from Synaptic, but when you reboot, you don't see a screen? One thing: why from Synaptic? shouldn't you be using the Restricted Drivers Manager? [03:03] backgen: great [03:03] ere4si, Yes. The drive mounts fine. I can't get it to show on the desktop. [03:04] backgen: i spent 15 minutes tailoring a script that turned out didn't work either... [03:04] still looking. [03:04] nerbs, you might try the alternate cd, it seems to install on more hardware (I do hope that's not the one you're using :) [03:04] as I said I'm new to linux in general [03:04] hello [03:04] i had one more question [03:04] ere4si, I think it isn't showing up as a drive to Ubuntu, do you know why that would happen? [03:04] bobbob1016, if it mounted fine it would show in places [03:04] hi all anyone know a current source for w32codec ? [03:05] Murdoc650: i'm trying to understand what's going on. as far as i know, you should be prompted automatically by the Restricted Manager to install drivers, without a need to use Synaptic [03:05] !medibuntu > theNewMe (theNewMe, see the private message from Ubotu) [03:05] bobbob1016, what is the free space in /media/HD3? [03:05] ere4si, I mean it mounted fine as in I can see it, and read/write it, I just can't see it on the desktop or anything. [03:05] i need to kill bonobo-activation-server how would i go about doing that? [03:05] nickrud, does the alternate cd install everything the normal cd installs? [03:05] help with the application title bar --- i enabled emerald theme - and when it enters, the Title is really small font - after using alt + ctrl + backspace, it becomes larger - img here http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l105/reachthroughmist/image.png [03:05] nerbs: yes [03:05] bobbob1016, you could be just writing to a file in ubuntu [03:05] nerbs, yes, it just doesn't have a live cd mode [03:05] how can i partition my haddrive so that half has ubuntu and half windows? and then choose at boot screen which i want to run [03:05] it does if I try and change something with my desktop, but other then that it doesn't [03:06] !dualboot > Hime (Hime, see the private message from Ubotu) [03:06] thanks, i'll give it a try [03:06] ere4si, The freespace is what it should be, it is a 500gig drive, and it is 435, my main drive has 3gig left, so I know this is the new drive. [03:06] michael: you know what i think we should give up for now [03:06] !dualboot [03:06] Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot [03:06] Murdoc650: and if you just don't touch anything at all... what's wrong with the driver you get by default? [03:06] backgen: no we should not! i just found "drapes", a Gnome progra mthat replaces the wallpaper controller but lets you rotate wallpaper. [03:06] michael: hopefully, with any luck, the idea will be taken in and will be in the next upgrade!! [03:06] LjL: thanks :) [03:07] and best yet, it's installed with a single command. [03:07] michael: oh ho!!! sounds promising...is it a download or scripting again? [03:07] Trying to dual boot. Installer insists on using the entire HD (VISTA). How can I change that? [03:07] How many CD's does the 7.10 release use? Is there a way to download all the ISO's for a complete 7.10 release so that a network is not needed? [03:07] nothing anymore, but when I first intstalled it the screen was offset [03:07] bobbob1016, ok - it mounts - I'm a long way away and can't see properly from here :) [03:07] keith80403, it just uses 1 [03:07] give me another minute to verify, and i'll let you know. it's a one line installation using a program called "apt-get" which Gnome uses to suck down and install packages for you. [03:07] The problem really isn't drivers at this point [03:08] Question [03:08] Does ndiswrapper use wlan0 as the device name by default in ubuntu? [03:08] Murdoc650: if it's a CRT screen, then you should simply adjust the controls [03:08] . [03:08] ogre, So, one CD to get a basic system, and everything not on the install CD has to be downloaded, right? [03:08] bobbob1016, can you post your fstab pls [03:08] *paste [03:08] the big problem is that when I turn off my comp and reboot it wont boot from disk and so it goes to the CD and then reinstalls Ubuntu === monkey_ is now known as monTree [03:09] Murdoc650... even if you remove the CD? [03:09] keith80403, there is also a DVD image of Ubuntu... [03:09] keith80403, well its the complete system seperate packages can be downloaded as you need them [03:09] yes [03:09] keith80403, there's a dvd release has most stuff http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/release/dvd/ [03:09] backgen: it works! hooray! [03:09] Murdoc650: well, if it removes the CD, it can't go to the CD. so what happens exactly if you remove the CD and then reboot? [03:09] michael: MARVELOUS!! [03:09] ogre, DG19075, nickrud, OK thanks for the info, guys. [03:09] =S [03:09] no answer? [03:09] keith80403, but be aware, a lot of packages have been updated, you'll still need a net to be up to date [03:10] michael: ok i've found drapes, downloaded and extracted it...what next meistro? [03:10] nothing. it will stay at my preboot screen asking me to put in the CD [03:10] ere4si, http://pastebin.ca/823037 I've tried 0 0 and 0 2 and 0 1, none worked. [03:10] nickrud, Got it - thanks. [03:10] see yalls [03:10] I've set my boot priority to Hard Disk but it doesn't read anything on it [03:10] csc`: what is your question? [03:10] i'mma go now [03:10] awaty [03:10] Does ndiswrapper use wlan0 as the device name by default in ubuntu? [03:10] nautilus is crshed on me i need to kill bonobo-activation-server how do i do that via terminal? [03:11] backgen: hah, you took the long route! do this instead: [03:11] click on Applications -> Add/Remove. [03:11] ogre: kill -9 [03:11] csc`. No. [03:11] In the top right corner, choose Show: All available Applications. [03:11] exit [03:11] ogre, killall bonobo-etc [03:11] that works too [03:11] backgen: then type "drapes" into the search box. it should come up as the only hit. [03:11] backgen: good so far? [03:11] one less step, no pid to discover [03:11] osxdude: that to me for the question i asked? [03:11] nickrud, tyvm [03:11] csc`, if it's internal it'll use eth0 or something [03:12] Murdoc650, this might be a stupid question, but you *did* install Ubuntu? when you said "and then reinstalls Ubuntu"... you're aware that just putting the CD in the drive and then waiting until a desktop comes up does *not* mean Ubuntu is installed, right? [03:12] yes csc` [03:12] fantastic i'll do that just now [03:12] osxdude: so when ndiswrapper is installed, an alias isnt created to always make it wlan0, correct? [03:12] michael: i'm in love with the add/remove thing in ubuntu [03:12] yeah, I went through the install, [03:12] nickrud, no luck [03:12] how do I mount nfs share folders ? I'm doing this but it doesn't works "192.168.123.28:/home/p47 /media/lp47 nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0" [03:12] bobbob1016, your cd is /dev/sdc - your new disk will have to be /dev/sdd [03:12] why ? [03:12] I don't believe so, csc` [03:13] backgen: yeah, tell me about it. it's the frontend to the command line "apt-get" which is FINALLY an easy-to-use linux installer :) [03:13] Ok I gtg....see yalls [03:13] :P [03:13] ogre, you didnt't type bonobo-etc , right :) [03:13] osxdude: well that just overcomplicates things :| [03:13] ere4si, How would I change it to /dev/sdd? [03:13] i have some applications that just repeatedly crash [03:13] michael: finally?? which version of Ubuntu did it come in? [03:13] bobbob1016, I don't know - let me check [03:13] hi anyone frim with nvidia [03:13] ? [03:13] ogre, ogre if it's still running after killall bonobo-activation-server , try killall -15 [03:13] got gf 5700 le and a question [03:14] backgen: i've been playing with linux for several years; before apt-get, "rpm" (red hat package manager) was popular. but it had issues. [03:14] is the one working with 100xx dribver or only by 9xxx [03:14] nickrud, killall bonobo-etc [03:14] and then there was some other one starting with a "y" which i've tried to forget, i can't remember. anyway, apt-get Just Works, which is great! [03:14] ogre, the etc was a placeholder for the full name, I didn't want to type the whole thing out ; [03:14] Is there a way to mass delete files? [03:15] ahh thanks [03:15] Murdoc650: it's really time to go to bed for me, and we'd need a pretty lengthy troubleshooting session i fear, as this seems a weird problem. remember though the question you really want to ask is: i have installed Ubuntu, but on rebooting, the BIOS refuses to boot from the HD, and just goes on trying to boot from CD. <- better way to phrase your question [03:15] Ose, rm * [03:15] michael: hmm except in this case! the installation and everthing went fine but then i go to appplications - Graphics - Drapes and click on it nothing happens! [03:15] which you luck, you'll find me here again tomorrow [03:15] ere4si, I think it might be that I have sata, is it possible the fstab is outdated? [03:15] ok, thanks LjL [03:15] backgen: i thoguth so too at first - but is there a little screen icon near the top right corner of your monitor? [03:15] next to your clock? [03:15] Nickrud: So to remove all text files in a directory (And directories within it) rm /home/ose/*.txt? [03:15] michael: no wait...erase what i just said it does!!! [03:15] michael: haha yeh i just found it [03:16] <|_ocke> ok, so i have a ati radeon xpress 200, i've installed fglrx, and done all sorts of stuff to my xorg.conf following help on the web, and when i run compiz.real i get "compiz.real (core) - Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing", but glxinfo | grep "GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap" shows it to be there [03:16] backgen: great! now right click it and choose Preferences, and tell it to start every time, and tell it where to find your files, and yo'ure set! [03:16] <|_ocke> any ideas? [03:16] I logged in and all of my gnome menu bar applets will not load. Is this common? [03:16] Ose, that would get files, but not directories ending in *.txt . To get any dir, you would do rm -r *.txt (-r means recursive) [03:16] michael: hmm that's what i'm doing but the darn thing won't load my pictures...is it working for you? [03:17] Nickrud: I want to keep the directories. It's the files within the directories I want to remove. [03:17] ere4si, I thought sdc1 was different than scd0 and scd1 [03:17] The error returned was "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration? [03:17] |_ocke: #compiz-fusion [03:17] askand/askan1: any luck ? [03:17] <|_ocke> k [03:17] bobbob1016, just saw that [03:17] |_ocke, i run that chip (crap) , how did you install fglrx ? [03:17] backgen: hm, not yet, though i don't have any pictures of my own. gimme a sec. [03:17] dadehoog: yes! it is working now! dont know why really..:) [03:17] michael: hmm it's working for one picture...but why not for the rest? [03:18] askan1: which port did you end up using ? [03:18] backgen: like, it only displays one picture, and when you click the Drapes icon it doesn't change? [03:18] bobbob1016, add to fstab line - utf8,umask=007,gid=46 [03:18] no in the drapes thing when i click on add, it simply won't add my pictures into the little window... [03:18] Hi, i hveing a huge problem, i accidently stoped my user from being admin (its my only user) is there a way i can change it back (as sudo wont let me) [03:18] do they need to be JPEG? [03:18] dadehoog: 8888 seemed to do the trick [03:19] the office is great [03:19] I logged in and all of my gnome menu bar applets will not load. How do I fix it? [03:19] askan1: yeah, it sounds as though 4444 was being blocked by your ISP ... 8888 is often used for proxies and webservers, so it's likely to be allowed. [03:19] anyone here own a blackjack2? [03:19] Glad it's fixed. [03:19] dadehoog: thankyou :) [03:19] askan1: no worries [03:19] michael: i think thats the problem...they may need to be Jpegs...do you know how to convert pictures into JPG format? [03:20] backgen: not on Ubuntu yet, no [03:20] <|_ocke> nickrud, i just did sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-fglrx or whatever it was [03:20] backgen: i can't even get jpegs to work. did you just point Drapes to your pictures folder, and then click on Drapes and it worked? [03:20] I want to unintall package A, and I remember when I installed it, I also installed lots of packages that A depends on. So now I want to remove them because they might not be needed by other pacakges. Is there a way to uninstall those packages together with A? [03:20] backgen: open them up with sothing like gimp, then save as jpeg [03:20] <|_ocke> in fact, the restricted manager installed it [03:20] michael: hahaha this is so silly! [03:21] |_ocke, then you logged out, and fglrinfo said you were running ati drivers, not mesa? [03:21] backgen: you'll find that a lot in Linux is... [03:21] :) [03:21] <|_ocke> nickrud, yeah [03:21] michael: all the images are JPEG's but since i renamed them they lost the .jpg at the end... [03:21] <|_ocke> fglrx-info shows it [03:21] how can i increase the size of my ubuntu partion, im out of space on the partition i installed ubuntu to and weird stuff is happening [03:21] michael: all i had to do was rename them to add the .jpg and it's working fine now [03:21] backgen: hah! good for you. [03:21] |_ocke, then all you have to do is install xserver-xgl , and log back out and in. The ubuntu fglrx doesn't have aiglx, so you have to run that special server [03:21] wy: you could try something like : apt-cache showpkg links [03:22] anybody know what changed in the kernel from 2.6.22-14-generic to 2.6.20-16 with the latest kernel speed stepping is disabled with centrino dotham processors [03:22] michael: well my quest is done....thank you so much for all your help michael [03:22] backgen: by the way, did you "Add" them via the main preferences tab, or did you choose "Monitor this folder" on the second prefercenees tab? [03:22] Hi, im having a huge problem, i accidently stopped my user from being admin (its my only user) is there a way i can change it back (as sudo wont let me) [03:22] got drapes working here too..awesome!!!! [03:22] backgen: you're very welcome, glad to help! [03:22] |_ocke, then install compizconfig-settings-manager and emerald and you're good to go [03:22] michael: are you a programmer or something? [03:22] speeves: Can't this be automated? [03:22] ere4si, It says wrong FS type, although it is ext3 in gparted [03:22] michael: i added via the main one [03:22] backgen: how'd you guess ;) [03:23] <|_ocke> i have to run xgl too? oh, all these pages were saying that i shouldnt have to install xgl and that if i did it would negate the benefits of using fglrx [03:23] michael: hahaha, do you code exclusively for linux or mac and windows too? [03:23] Anybody know what dwhelper is? [03:23] <|_ocke> is that way offbase? [03:23] |_ocke, get rid of all those extra settings in xorg.conf, the glx , composite , overlay stuff [03:23] backgen: i worked for Google a couple jobs back, which you'd think would make me better at Linux... but at my last job it was Windows, so my linux is a little rusty. [03:23] I haven't done any Mac, though. [03:23] <|_ocke> get rid of glx? [03:23] <|_ocke> k [03:23] can anyone get the blackjack2 modem to work with a laptop [03:23] |_ocke, ubuntu runs 8.37 , I bet you were reading 8.42 or 8.43 driver instructions [03:23] bobbob1016, what says it is wrong file system type? [03:24] <|_ocke> yeah i have 8.42 [03:24] <|_ocke> or something [03:24] <|_ocke> or maybe i dont [03:24] |_ocke, then you didn't install it from ubuntu [03:24] <|_ocke> i did install through ubuntu [03:24] something in the latest kernel killed stepping with the intel centrino dotham processors [03:24] ere4si, When I mount the drive. [03:24] anybody know what was changed [03:24] michael: Google?! wow, that's impressive! [03:24] fglrx 8.42 is not in the repos [03:24] |_ocke, fglrxinfo will tell you for certain [03:24] backgen: thank you! :) [03:24] bobbob1016, in fstab cal it ext2 and see if that works [03:24] backgen: what do you do? === Wing is now known as Weng [03:25] <|_ocke> nickrud, it doesnt tell me a version [03:25] Hi, im having a huge problem, i accidently stopped my user from being admin (its my only user) is there a way i can change it back (as sudo wont let me) [03:25] michael: ah i'm a measly student at the moment [03:25] wy: there probably is, but I don't know it off the top of my head [03:25] <|_ocke> k now xgl will be started automatically on next login apparently [03:25] |_ocke, I get OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon Xpress Series, OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6) [03:25] wow. kernel upgrade :) [03:25] backgen, michael_: can you please stay on topic? You can /query or /j #ubuntu-offtopic to continue [03:26] tritium: good point, thanks for the reprimand! === Weng is now known as Weng_ [03:26] backgen: it's been lovely playing with you. have a nice night :) [03:26] tritium: alright my apologises [03:26] michael_: no, it's a kind reminder. Thanks! :) [03:26] no worries, backgen [03:26] anyone here know how to clear a disc on module? [03:26] tritium: yep, no problem! [03:26] michael: same to you micheal [03:26] <|_ocke> oh lemme see [03:26] Rio [03:26] try sudo su [03:26] to give yourself root access [03:26] ere4si, "wrong fs type, bad superblock" when I do mount -a, which is how I understand it is done on boot, but mount /dev/sdc1 /media/HD3 works fine, nothing on the desktop though [03:26] * nickrud notices no one messes with unstable hydrogen [03:27] then change the user settings [03:27] I need to install WIndows XP and Ubuntu on an IDE and SATA drive respectively. Whats the right way to do this. Cause I cant get them to work both with the drives correctly without going into the bios and modifying the menu.lst each boot [03:27] <|_ocke> now it does [03:27] * michael_ messes with deuterium, if that counts for anything [03:27] <|_ocke> 8.37.6 [03:27] hey has anyone ever had trouble with You Tube videos? suddenly they only play for 5 seconds and with no sound and then they stop... [03:27] <|_ocke> should i get rid of glx and dri in xorg.conf? [03:27] d|v: i have i get no response [03:28] nickrud: I get "No such file or directory" when I try to use the asterisk in removing files. [03:28] bobbob1016, try mount -afv [03:28] <|_ocke> so i just swapped a celeron 420 1.6ghz 64bit with 512MB DDR2 and onboard intel 950 for a 3.33ghz celeron D with 512 DDR and onboard radeon xpress 200 [03:29] |_ocke, yes; the simplest way to fix that would be sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , then edit to add the fglrx driver back [03:29] <|_ocke> did i just screw myself? [03:29] how would i go about finding the difference between linux-image-2.6.20-16-386 and linux-image-2.6.22-14-386 within certain files? [03:29] <|_ocke> the 1.6 ran REALLY smooth [03:29] how can I mount NFS on fstab ? [03:29] <|_ocke> but i saw the 3.33 on this and though OOH I NEED IT GAAHHHH [03:29] how can I mount NFS on fstab ? [03:29] Anybody know what dwhelper is? [03:29] Hi, im having a huge problem, i accidently stopped my user from being admin (its my only user) is there a way i can change it back (as sudo wont let me) [03:29] Ose, rm *.txt works , it's a standard file glob [03:30] !nfs | cr4 [03:30] cr4: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. [03:30] speeves: got it! it's apt-get autoremove [03:30] RioCunliffe: boot into the recovery console and you can easily readd it(if you know the cmd to do it over cli) [03:30] RioCunliffe: boot into single-user (recovery) mode [03:30] |_ocke, from my perspective, it was a definite drop in video (I run the 200) [03:30] <|_ocke> well the video i know [03:30] <|_ocke> im having doubts because of the bs im having to go through to get compiz working on this thing [03:30] tritium: Sure, but how? [03:31] Anybody know what dwhelper is, and why it keeps popping up on my desktop? [03:31] <|_ocke> but thats not really my main concern [03:31] nickrud: I'm typing rm /home/ose/testdisk-6.8/linux/*.txt and it gives the error. And yes, I can CD to that directory. There are no texts directly there though, just in folders beneath it. [03:31] <|_ocke> did i get screwed on the rest [03:31] bazhang, yes, I can mount manualy, but whan I try to mount automatically with fstab it doesn't mount the shared folder [03:31] bazhang, I have this "192.168.123.28:/home/p47 /media/lp47 nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0" [03:31] RioCunliffe: at boot, hit Esc to get to the grub menu, then select it [03:31] <|_ocke> should i have took the ghz hit to get a 64bit celeron 420 instead of D, and DDR2 instead of DDR [03:31] <|_ocke> that one had a 800Mhz FSB, this one is 533 [03:31] cr4: that was the limit of my knowledge :} [03:32] <|_ocke> is FSB more important than GHz? [03:32] no [03:32] tritium, ive tried this, it dosent seem to work (ie grub menu dosent come up) when *exactly* do i press esc [03:32] <|_ocke> this one is literally twice the processor speed [03:32] <|_ocke> i hope that was the right choice [03:32] <|_ocke> i really liked the RAM performance on that one though [03:32] <|_ocke> it was silky smooth [03:32] RioCunliffe: right after the machine posts [03:32] fsb = 400, ghz = 3 is better than fsb=533, ghz = 2 [03:32] 0se -r is for directories, not recursing down thru the tree, removing files ending in txt [03:32] bazhang, :O couls you help me ? [03:33] <|_ocke> i never saw a slight stutter the whole time i had it [03:33] <|_ocke> 2 days [03:33] -2 days? Wow, negative time... [03:33] tritium: What as it says "Starting up"?? [03:33] <|_ocke> i paid $50 for the 1.6, and I paid $100 for this 3.3 [03:33] <|_ocke> nono 2 days [03:33] hi [03:33] <|_ocke> i gotta restart [03:33] |_ocke, not sure, I'm not hardware [03:34] <|_ocke> haha you should really make a user root [03:34] nickrud: I tried rm -r /home/ose/testdisk-6.8/linux/*.txt and still doesn't find a file or directory. [03:34] <|_ocke> brb [03:34] |_ocke: no, he should not [03:34] ere4si, That doesn't work, it said not mounted the first time, then the second it said mounted, but nothing is in that folder [03:34] Ose, if the dir is text.txt for example, it would remove that dir and any dirs under it [03:34] RioCunliffe: depends on what your machine displays at boot [03:34] bobbob1016, this link shows how to recover the superblock - http://edseek.com/archives/2004/02/25/ext3-filesystem-bad-superblock-recovery/ [03:34] <|_ocke> alriiiiiight [03:34] <|_ocke> I have compiz fusion! [03:35] RioCunliffe: there really should be something that tells you to hit Esc to get to grub menu [03:35] <|_ocke> and its pretty darn smooth too [03:35] nickrud: Ah, well I want it to remove any texts in the directories (Which aren't named that, but there are like.. Hundreds of directories all under /linux/ How would that be done? [03:35] !enter |_ocke [03:35] _ocke: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [03:35] <|_ocke> i need to push it to see if its better than the last one [03:35] tritium: cheers for your help, im going to look the grub menu up further on google :) cya [03:35] Ose, find . -iname *.txt -exec rm {} \; will recurse down thru dirs, removing files ending in txt [03:36] Ose, or Txt , the iname makes it case insensitive [03:36] Hi, is there a linux equivalent to KillBox? [03:37] Attempting to install gnash-- Not sure how to get it to work with Mozilla-- anyone seen the same thing? [03:37] nickrud: There it goes! Thanks. [03:38] is there a way to move the tabs to the bottom on gnome-terminal? [03:38] like Konsole [03:38] ? [03:38] Ose, yw [03:38] mrdinkles: what thing? [03:39] * nickrud has finally conquered find, after 7 years :) [03:39] nickrud: Is there a way to have it report on how many it's deleted thus far? It's kinda deleting uh... 150,000 text files. Haha. [03:39] @@ [03:39] anybody know "finch" [03:39] ere4si, I'm a bit confused as to what this is doing. I am making a virtual FS with DD at /tmp/foo? [03:40] that is a textmode software [03:40] IM software [03:40] Ose, not sure, find pushes back hard every time I claim I know it :) [03:40] wols_: had the same problem-- Can't get gnash to install in mozilla-- attempting to view some videos [03:40] !info finch [03:40] finch: text-based multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4.1 (gutsy), package size 285 kB, installed size 620 kB [03:40] mrdinkles: I wouldn't use gnash yet but that's just me [03:41] nickrud: Haha. Well, this will do. I had the GUI deleting them earlier.. After 6 hours it wasn't done. When I stopped it nothing was removed.. Figured terminal would be faster. I'll just let this go all night, thanks. [03:41] mrdinkles: a majority percentage of Flash content does not work with Gnash [03:42] http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Finch [03:42] mrdinkles: better to get flash...it can be installed with sudo apt-get install flashplayer nonfree [03:42] ere4si, Or not, it said full / partition. I did rm /tmp/foo, to get rid of the file. That site doesn't explain much. [03:42] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/132271 [03:43] DG19075: incorrect command :) [03:43] DG19075: (hint: package names never have spaces) [03:43] ere4si, Should I replace /dev/zero with sdc1 or /tmp/foo with sdc1? [03:43] hello :) [03:43] hi t2 [03:43] i have a question, what is the difference between linux alternate and linux live? [03:43] bobbob1016: you cannot replace /dev/zero with anything [03:43] excuse me ubuntu live [03:43] Launchpad bug 132271 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[GUTSY] cpu freq scaling not working anymore" [Low,Won't fix] [03:44] that isn't good [03:44] why would someone use both windows and ubuntu? why not use just one that fits your needs better an avoid having to switch all the time? [03:44] The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". How do I fix this? [03:44] JasonBourne: gaming mostly [03:44] bobbob1016, the bottom part of that link is what I'd use [03:44] yeah linux screws you with gaming [03:44] huey: the live cd and the alternate cd? is that your question? [03:44] run linux use vmware o virtualbox to run winblows [03:45] says couldnt find flashplayer [03:45] anyone run citrix? [03:45] \ [03:45] ere4si, /tmp/foo should be /dev/sdc right? or /dev/sdc1? [03:45] yeah [03:45] DG19075: says couldnt find flashplayer [03:45] bazhang: that is my question, whats the difference? [03:45] !flash | mrdinkles [03:45] mrdinkles: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [03:46] Is there a way so that when I invoke "rm" that I will be prompted for removing a file? [03:46] use rm -i [03:46] bobbob1016: /tmp is rarely a full partition. what is the problem you want to solve? [03:46] DG19075: I want it to be automatic though [03:46] ubotu: and if im using 7.10 [03:46] looking gkismet deb pack.. anyone [03:46] other than dell, what are some ubuntu pc manufacturers? [03:47] bobbob1016, no - /tmp/foo is a place to store the backup superblock #'s - the line further down uses that to repair the file system [03:47] AngryElf: system76 is one [03:47] ericvw: echo alias rm='rm -i' >> .profile [03:47] help me mounting a NFS in fstab please ! [03:47] anyone know of good channels/forums for R? [03:47] wols_, A new drive I put in isn't mounting. I formatted it via gparted, and it won't mount on the desktop or places or sidebar in nautilus. [03:47] huey: several differences--the live lets you use a graphical installer, the alternate is text-based; the alternate will also do when the live fails (in certain situations), that is it in a small nutshell--there are other differences [03:47] The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". How do I fix this? [03:47] mrdinkles: try sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree [03:48] How do I reset all of my gconf menu options to the factory-default, I remember there being an undocumented option something like gconf-editor --reset-defaults /location/in/gconf and I just need some help, thanks. [03:48] bobbob1016: fdisk -l [03:48] that should do it for you [03:48] mrdinkles: please do not try that command today [03:48] mneptok: thanks [03:48] mrdinkles: see /topic [03:48] bobbob1016: you won't need to recreate a superblock and all that stuff then [03:48] peace out see ya later [03:48] I'm having a problem with X forwarding over ssh, i received the following error message user444@mygusty:~$ gimp [03:48] Xlib: connection to "localhost:10.0" refused by server [03:48] Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key [03:48] cannot open display: [03:48] bazhang: would you recommend trying to install live first or the alternate? I am on a newer laptop [03:49] !paste > TeslaDave [03:49] biouser: #R for one [03:49] huey: which laptop? [03:49] wols_, http://pastebin.ca/823030 [03:49] sony vaio FZ140E [03:49] wols_, sdc is the new one [03:49] bobbob1016: what is the mount command you tried? [03:49] bazhang: c2d, 2 gigs, intel x1300 onboard [03:49] The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". How do I fix this? I've searched Google and none of the answers work for me. Help! [03:50] huey: will this be a dual boot or wipe the windows partition [03:50] wols_, sudo mount -a [03:50] well, dual [03:50] whats the code that teels you how ur com is runing [03:50] bobbob1016: is sdc1 mentined in your /etc/fstab then and if so, what is the line? [03:50] huey: run the live CD to ensure your hardware is supported [03:50] help me mounting a NFS in fstab please ! [03:50] huey: no point in installing if no network adapters function [03:50] ader10: what happens when you put in a new audio applet? [03:50] wols_, http://pastebin.ca/823037 [03:51] !ask | cr4 [03:51] as in right click on the panel [03:51] cr4: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [03:51] bazhang: i am pretty sure it is not. I have looked on the net for 7.04, and it was not supported link=http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-524907.html [03:51] poningru: I'll give you the error message 1 second [03:51] and just add a volume panel [03:51] huey: try the live and see if it can recognize all your system (without installing), and if it does well--especially with video and wireless then try it out--might be a good idea to have the alternate on hand though [03:51] The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". [03:51] poningru: The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". [03:51] any word on when flash will be fixed? [03:51] bobbob1016: did you comment out all your normal partitons? [03:52] jon_: Fixed? [03:52] jon_: there is a workaround now, should be very shortly [03:52] wols, I can mount a nfs shared folder but I whena I try to fstab mount that automatically it faild [03:52] ader10: hmm that is weird [03:52] jon_: When did it break? [03:52] bazhang: I did the alternate first, and i am having troubles. I will try the live now :) Thanks a bunch. Is there a command that boots into the graphical interface of the OS? [03:52] wols_, could you help me ? [03:52] ader10: it happens everytime on restart? [03:52] poningru: Yes [03:52] wols_, No, those were like that automatically, the UUID is how they are mounted, the commented part is the location [03:52] does sound work? [03:52] huey: gdm [03:52] !pastebin > compwiz18 [03:52] bobbob1016: sry, my bad [03:52] I don't know when the break happened but I just did a fresh install today so my flash stopped working [03:53] bobbob1016: what does sudo mount /dev/sdc1 say? [03:53] bobbob1016: and you did a mkfs on the /dev/sdc1 right? [03:53] huey: is this gutsy or feisty you plan on using? [03:53] I have no sound. http://pastebin.ca/822560 [03:53] feisty [03:53] I had fiesty fawn. I changed to gutsy, and I've been having problems ever since! [03:53] wols_, I formatted it via gparted, which I'm pretty sure did mkfs [03:53] huey: any reason not to try gutsy? [03:53] cr4: read the catoid ubotu gave you again, until you get it [03:54] BigTone: try hardy. YEESH! [03:54] bobbob1016: "pretty sure" means you don't know :) [03:54] bazhang: None whatsoever, what seperates the two? [03:54] wols_, I looked at the details and it said it was mkfs-ing [03:54] bobbob1016: again, what does the mount command say? [03:54] could one of you link me to the flash workaround? [03:54] FullMon-T, BigTone: Hardy is still alpha. Do not try unless properly warned... [03:55] wols_, Mounting it that way worked, it didn't before, but I think some combo of what ere4si told me to do and what we did worked. [03:55] Fjodor: I went in with the best of intentions- "alpha" sounded sexy. [03:55] huey: more support for modern hardware, faster, more stable (at least here), a number of other features--the livecd means that it will allow you to try before you buy (so to speak), using without installing, you know? [03:55] cr4: try this - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html [03:55] bobbob1016: if it worked, congrats, then it should work when rebooting too considering the options you put in [03:56] The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". How do I fix this? I've searched Google and none of the answers work for me. Help! [03:56] ader10: does sound work? [03:56] wols_, ere4si everyone who helped me, thanks. [03:56] FullMon-T: And good luck with that, but in my opinion it's bad to recommend alpha software to anyone not specifically requesting alpha... [03:56] bobbob1016: ere4si did the work, not me [03:56] poningru: Yes [03:56] wols_, One last thing, there is a lost&found folder, do I need it, or no? [03:57] hmm that is weird [03:57] wols, that is why I thanked you both [03:57] what is the artwork channel again [03:57] how do you inatale games or programes [03:57] bazhang: ah yes I understand. So gutsy has more support for modern hardware? I will be trying all of this soon. This is the first time I have ever fiddled with linux :) [03:57] Thanks a lot! [03:57] ere4si, Thanks for the help [03:57] can you try going into a terminal and running 'alsa-mixer' or something like that [03:57] Fjodor: Aside from the massive sex appeal, /fail, I did learn a lot from the experience. [03:57] bobbob1016: you do need it and you cannot remove it ever when you use ext2/3 [03:57] Hey I am having network issues. Network Manager is not connecting to my network at boot, and it seems my Latency keeps shooting up INCREDIBLY high! How can I force network manager to connect on boot without replacing network manager with Wicd or something, and where can I look more in depth to network settings besides network-admin? [03:57] nvm [03:57] bobbob1016, if you remove it the system will make it again [03:57] bazhang: actually the weird thing about the live cd with me was that effects didn't work when I tried it but then they did after I actually installed [03:57] bobbob1016: it's where it stores the files it repeaired when doing a fsck for example [03:57] k [03:58] huey: and hardy heron (slated for release next april) will be a lts release (long term support) so it will be better even still in that department [03:58] poningru: well, seeing that I don't have alsa mixer installed, nothing will happen :P [03:58] FullMon-T: Indeed. Are you willing to accept responsibility for getting a less experienced user into that sort of trouble? [03:58] ader10: that explains it [03:58] poningru: But my sound works fine. [03:58] rainwalker: aha--the 3d effects? just say no :} === Ashfire is now known as Ashfire908 [03:58] do a sudo aptitude install alsamixer [03:58] bazhang: heheh, too late, I've been in love with 'em since Edgy [03:58] poningru: MPD is working fine, youtube is working fine, the problem is the gnome applets, they all crash [03:59] Thanks again, rebooting now. [03:59] poningru: I have tried to reinstall them about 7 times in the last 30 minutes [03:59] bigal: use the add/remove programs [03:59] rainwalker: there is a 12 step program for that... :} [03:59] bazhang: sounds great im tired of having to deal with the BS of new Windows os releases [03:59] bazhang: NO! I'm not going back... [04:00] Are there any Limewire like programs for Ubuntu? [04:00] huey: you may want to try a number of different distros and see which suits your needs best--for many it is ubuntu, but there are tons of others--you can check at www.distrowatch.com [04:00] !frostwire [04:00] frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire. For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire [04:00] rainwalker: haha [04:00] i need to instal a game [04:00] Thanks Jack_Sparrow [04:00] np [04:00] bigal: which game [04:00] If I create a folder in /home, it appears in on desktop and if I create a file on the desktop it apears in the home directory, why shoul I do ? [04:00] bigal: any game in particular [04:00] wow [04:01] bazhang: I have heard of other bistros, but ubuntu seems to be the most common bistro? [04:01] !swap [04:01] swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info [04:01] world of war craft [04:01] i am building a new system that will run Ubuntu 7.10 and i have found that for 59.99 i can either get a Pentium D dual core 3.0GHZ or an AMD athlon X2 3600+ at 2.0GHZ which one will perform better on ubuntu? [04:01] Can anybody help me manually set up my network without having to use network manager cause I have to go to a terminal and setup my essid and do dhclient every boot anyway [04:01] huey: the big difference is in the support you get in here.. [04:01] I have a drive that works immediately after I plug it in for a while, then stops: dmesg output is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48806/ Drive is USB, used to work fine. Any ideas? [04:02] ader10: they all crash? [04:02] Tux360: I'd get the athlon. P4 are bad, the electricity bill alone compared to the athlon [04:02] huey: distro, but it does have the best community; there are many others but this one has the best support, channel, documentation and info out there [04:02] ubuntu is the best! [04:02] ok thanks [04:02] poningru: all [04:02] Tux360: I like the pentium myself, and I think it may have a bit of an edge [04:02] * nickrud thinks gentoo has the best docs, but that's just him [04:02] If I create a folder in /home, it appears in desktop and if I create a file on the desktop it apears in the home directory, why shoul I do ? [04:03] id go athlon [04:03] ader10: it sounds like you uninstalled a bunch of stuff [04:03] well outside of gentoo huey :} [04:03] i cant seem to find a performance chart comparing the two anywhere [04:03] can you do a sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop [04:03] what should I do if my swap is not being utilized? [04:03] This is for my wife but are there any clones of the AOL software for Ubuntu [04:03] bazhang: haha, distro, my apologies, any sugestions before the install? [04:03] it says cant find mount my not have media drive [04:03] Jasnation: reduce your computers memory? [04:03] Jasnation: it is a good thing... [04:03] I know right [04:03] ... [04:03] If I can get that for her I will be able to get rid of stupid Microsoft on this computer! [04:03] !aol [04:03] Sorry, I don't know anything about aol - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [04:04] I have 500 firefoxes and openoffices open and it still isn't using it? [04:04] !pidgin | dapimp532: [04:04] um [04:04] huey: just try to live cd first; if it seems nice, then reboot into windows and back up everything important (you never know) ;} [04:04] dapimp532: what do you mean aol? [04:04] Jack_Sparrow: that is the messanger. She wants the full AOL [04:04] aol is an internet service provider [04:04] cr4, gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home_dir , unset that key [04:04] dapimp532:: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0 [04:04] dapimp532: when you say the AOL software, do you mean the browser? [04:04] question: how to make deluge the default application for torrent files? [04:05] nick thank's [04:05] cr4, or leave it that way, some people prefer it [04:05] dapimp532: YOU can login to AOL with Firefox right? [04:05] right click on a .torrent file [04:05] and go to properties [04:05] and under open with [04:05] she wants the full thing with the channels and everything... not aol instant messanger.... She pays for service every month [04:05] poningru: All that does is install ubuntu-desktop and gimp-print, nothing else [04:05] easy thanks [04:05] bazhang: that is what i figured. I have already managed to wipeout my 30gigs of music by formatting a portion of the partion. Good thing it is backed up. [04:05] david__: huh? [04:05] what? [04:05] poningru: <--ader10 [04:05] oh [04:05] sorry about the confusion [04:06] huey: and we will be here if there any linux related disasters :} [04:06] I thought I changed my nick to ader10_ [04:06] david__: ok well install ubuntu-desktop and gimp-print [04:06] nickrud, it doen't works :( [04:06] and do a sudo aptitude update and then sudo aptitude upgrade [04:06] you know the Welcome You've Got Mail thing [04:06] err safe-upgrade [04:06] bazhang: Thanks again. I appreciate the extremely educating and helpfull support. Wish me luck [04:06] how would I go about completely disabling the motherboard speak? (jeez that thing is annoying) [04:06] dapimp532: you are not going to find crap like that on linux [04:07] huey: bonne chance! :} [04:07] evan_: sudo rmmod pcspkr [04:07] cr4, you'll have to do alt-f2 killall nautilus (it'll restart automatically) Those keys are supposed to be instant apply, I guess that one isn't [04:07] dapimp532: what is it about the AOL browser that she likes? === j_ack_ is now known as j_ack [04:07] and adding pcspkr to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist [04:07] nickrud, ok [04:08] bummer.... I thought it I could find her that I could get rid of Microsoft. She likes that its all in one. her buddy list, mail, and the channels I guess [04:08] dapimp532: FYI many of us dual boot..... [04:08] does k3b work on ubuntu, or would it be better on kubuntu? [04:08] ok thanks [04:08] I can't open any nautilus windows for some reason [04:08] Sonja: k3b is fine [04:08] what should I do if ubuntu isn't using the swap? [04:08] I don't like Microsoft. I like unix/linux but unfortunatly my wife has to use the computer too [04:09] Sonja: remember to add the mp3 addon for k3b if you want to burn those [04:09] dapimp532, and you could run windows in vmware or virtualbox, have the best of both worlds [04:09] another one: why does gpart crash after rescanning devices? [04:09] or the best and worst of this world [04:09] dapimp532 get a dual boot? [04:09] Is there a command to show the pid of processes? [04:09] Ose: ps? [04:09] Ok, this is terrible. I've ctrl-alt-backspace'd out of X and logged in, now I only have a white screen w/ a mouse [04:09] dapimp532: you could either dual boot or run windows with vmware/virtualbox [04:09] Ose, ps -A [04:09] Jack_Sparrow does k3b support all kinds of various video files and codecs? [04:09] once i got my wife to u7.10 she wont go back to MS [04:10] nickrud/Fjodor: Thanks. [04:10] what are the most userfriendly irc clients for linux? [04:10] Sonja: k3b is a burning program. it will not remaster dvd's etc... [04:10] Ose: Np [04:10] Sonja: irssi. but I'm biased :) [04:10] I'm not getting any help here :< [04:10] what do you mean by it won't remaster? [04:10] the only thing that hangs her up is the AOL thing. I don't know why we even have it. We pay good money for the Comcast Cable internet but we also have to pay for AOL. LOL [04:10] Sonja, xchat for gnome, konversation for kde are very popular [04:10] Sonja: most people use x-chat [04:10] !best [04:10] Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. [04:10] !swap [04:10] swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info [04:11] !patience | david__ [04:11] if i have an avi in some weird codec, and i want to burn it to a normal dvd i can play in a normal dvd player [04:11] david__: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [04:11] i need more than k3b? [04:11] !swap partition [04:11] Sorry, I don't know anything about swap partition - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [04:11] hey everyone [04:11] Sonja: If you want to clone dvd's use k9copy [04:11] i've got a torrent question to pose to anyone listening [04:11] what does "clone" mean? [04:11] Sonja: copy [04:11] Hi [04:11] How do I set the path for the screenshot app built in Ubuntu? [04:11] wols_: the !patience command implies that I'm being rude :S [04:11] I want it to go to a specific folder? [04:12] hmmm. The frostwire installed but its not opening [04:12] david__: no it implies that answers are not always available. since we are volunteers we alos don't know answers to everything [04:12] i want to convert a bunch of different video files (various codecs) as a normal dvd video, with a little menu so you can pick which one you want to watch, with a nice GUI. is that k3b? or do i need other tools too? [04:12] david__: what did you do before restarting x [04:12] okay....here is the deal..i'm running gutsy...and deluge. ports have been forwarded..no firewall is running...i get about 30k/s download..but i should be getting up to 500k [04:13] Sonja: that is remastering and not a feature of k3b [04:13] Jack_Sparrow: I did something like sudo aptitude reinstall gnome-applets gnome-applet-data [04:13] i've read all about port forwarding..i think it's an update of gutsy... [04:13] Quiane, it depends on the number of seeds and peers [04:13] Jack_Sparrow: and then pressed ctrl-alt-backspace [04:13] but i can't nail it down... [04:13] Sonja: you need something to transcode the clips to mpeg2, then you need something to create a dvd menu and possibly the dvd ISO file.those things are not done in k3b [04:13] Sonja: Try scouring fresmeat.net. There are dosens of apps that do just that [04:13] so i need a program for remastering, then import the result of that to k3b? [04:13] yeah..i've got too ratio's [04:13] in windows i just use Nero and it does everything for you really nicely [04:13] on the same torrent i was getting speeds of 90+ kps... [04:13] i assume something similar exists for linuxes [04:13] david__: some people.. myself included avoid ctrl-alt-backspace.... I prefer to exit fully [04:13] then i restarted [04:14] Sonja: Mostly frontends for transcode or mplayer [04:14] Quiane, if there are 100 seeds and 500 peers, it won't be that fast [04:14] can't break the 40k [04:14] 10 seeds, 28 peers 24kps [04:14] a nice gui to create a menu and remaster the files to make the package ready to be burned onto a dvd [04:14] Jack_Sparrow: Yes, I logged out the first 5 times instead of the panic key combo [04:14] !info devede [04:14] Quiane, should be slow XD [04:14] devede: program to create video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.13-0.0 (gutsy), package size 741 kB, installed size 1700 kB [04:14] Jack_Sparrow: But since that didn't help I figured that ctrl-alt-backspace couldn't hurt [04:15] Sonja: try devede [04:15] Sonja: k3b is a simply a burning program. it burns stuff to cd. can up to a point master them but afaik not DVDs [04:15] hmm..nothing? i know about torrents...these are not the speeds i should be getting [04:15] Quiane, to know if the problem is from that file or not, try downloading ubuntu torrent and see the difference [04:15] offtopic Quiane [04:15] screen refresh rate is being set incorrectly to 50Hz, should be 60 Hz, I've already tried changing it in graphical properties and Xorg, not sure what to do [04:15] devede eh [04:15] oki === netdemon is now known as NeT_DeMoN [04:15] ubuntu torrent? like the default bittorrent client? [04:15] david__: I am heading to bed... someone should be able to help.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg probably wont do any good [04:15] torrent speeds Quiane [04:15] i've tried azerus, ktorrent and deluge [04:15] evan_: pastebin your xorg.conf and your xorg logs [04:16] evan_, if it's an nvidia, I've heard that installing nvidia-settings will help [04:16] Jack_Sparrow: Is there any waty to reconfigure gnome applets? [04:16] question, what could have happend if half your system and pidgin logs disappear??? [04:16] Quiane, no no ...I mean download the ubuntu ISO from the official torrent [04:16] learn about port forwarding and NAT Quiane [04:16] evan_: also, is your monitor a LCD screen? [04:16] yea, its a quadro. I was also wondering if the quadro can be used to do double buffering of windows and such [04:16] yes, a laptop screen [04:16] Quiane: that is a router issue, not an ubuntu one [04:17] evan_: then 50Hz is normal and you cannot change it nor you'd want to [04:17] i have learned about port forwarding and nat..as far as i can tell it's all forwarded..iptables is disabled...the port is open [04:17] upnp is running [04:17] wols_: Iim not sure what "pastebin" is [04:17] by all accounts i should have good speeds..that's why i'm in here [04:17] no, 60 Hz is normal [04:17] any one?? [04:17] evan_: no need anymore. you cannot go above 50Hz on a LCD [04:17] evan_: LCDs have one exact refresh rate and that's it. usually 50 or 60Hz [04:17] Quiane: what client? [04:17] Quiane, just try and see http://releases.ubuntu.com [04:17] deluge [04:18] all computer lcds afaik have 60 hz refresh rates [04:18] i'm getting 880kps [04:18] thats what it is in windows too [04:18] Has anyone played with powertop? It tells you how much electricity an app uses. It also allows you to turn off stuff. good for laptops [04:18] dialed back to 200 now [04:18] evan_: not everyhwhere. and I told you, you cannot set any refresh rate with LCDs. just not possible due to the way their work [04:18] evan_: what windosw tells you and what it uses are possibly different things. [04:19] staying steady between 190-200 [04:19] wols_: ok, I guess i should be happy its even working, buy I know full well about refresh rates on both lcds and crts [04:19] how can I adjust how many lines it scrolls down when I use my touchpad mouse? It is doing like 5-7 lines and I would like it to be about 3 [04:19] i forgot the password I set for daap. how do I reset it? [04:20] wols_:thanks though, sounds like I shouldn't mess with it [04:20] or cant, even [04:20] can someone help me please, i downloaded the 7.1 CD & burned it and nothing happened, windows says its size is 0bytes, tried burning it at slower speed (as low as 8x) and still the same results [04:20] ok, maybe a different question, why is my mozilla slow when my messenger and here is fast ??? [04:21] evan_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate#LCD_displays [04:21] HAI,BOLEH KENALAN NGGAK. [04:21] NITA: this is an English channel [04:21] NeT_DeMoN: "slow" in what way? could it be you are low on memory? [04:21] boddah82, what program u burn with ? [04:21] L' [04:21] Where is the "Xclient Script" located? [04:21] wols_: i have nothing on my computer except all the updates [04:21] david__: do you mean xsession? [04:22] Yeah [04:22] wols_: it wont load anything [04:22] NeT_DeMoN: that's not what I spoke about [04:22] i have tried with both Isorecorder and infrarecorder [04:22] noisy channel.... [04:22] WHatever that thing is called where you login in gdm === crd1b is now known as crdlb [04:22] wols_: yeah but i should have plenty of memory [04:22] NeT_DeMoN: how much memory do you have and I asked "slow" how? [04:22] NeT_NITA [04:23] hi [04:23] * sysRPL running a live CD here [04:23] NITA: please stop [04:23] !id | NITA [04:23] NITA: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia [04:23] boddah82, sum1 else in here may have a diff solutionm /. But I had a great deal of trouble getting my cd burned to only program I was able to burn it with was "alkohol".. === NITA is now known as NeT_NITA [04:23] wols_: No, I mean Xclient [04:23] Hey. Is there any way to get different wallpapers on each workspace? [04:23] ah, ok ill try downloading that, thanks :) [04:23] wols_: it takes forever to load a page and quits responding all the time and how do i check memory on ubuntu?? [04:24] HAI,BOLEH KENALAN NGGAK [04:24] how much ram do you have net_demon? [04:24] wols_: When you log in there's a "sessions" thing and if you click it you can have a option of selections [04:24] ugh [04:24] * verb3k is wondering if sysRPL is having a problem and using the liveCD to get backup :) === krAsh is now known as nomaS [04:24] NeT_DeMoN, open a terminal and type "top" [04:24] david__: that's not the sessions "thing" I spoke about [04:24] am i able to boot people for mimiking my name? [04:24] BHS.INDONESIA AJA NAPA [04:25] that is your ghost NeT_DeMoN [04:25] JJJJJ [04:25] hey, could i please get some help? i downloaded and burned a live Cd to extract some data from a windows install that won't boot. since the windows drive shutdown incorrectly i can't mount it, and attempting to mount from terminal using "-o force" i get an error saying "failed to access mount point" ... could someone help me mount this windows drive so i can recover files? [04:25] NeT_NITA: either stop or you will be removed. talk english ONLY please and stop harrassing others [04:25] NeT_NITA: stop [04:25] !id | NeT_NITA [04:25] NeT_NITA: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia [04:25] JANCO' [04:25] bazhang: I think he's talking about NeT_NITA [04:25] bazhang: ghost? [04:25] in what folder are the settings for rhythmbox located? [04:25] JANCO' [04:25] oh I see NeT_DeMoN [04:26] how can I adjust how many lines it scrolls down when I use my touchpad mouse? It is doing like 5-7 lines and I would like it to be about 3 [04:26] I just had the remove ready [04:26] Myrtti: me too ;) [04:26] wers, they're kept in the gconf registry , run gconf-editor and navigate the tree to apps/rhythmbox [04:26] does linux use ttf fonts? [04:26] sysRPL: needs to be clean first [04:26] Sonja: yes [04:27] Is there any way to get different wallpapers on each workspace? [04:27] wols_: i have over 170,000k memory left [04:27] yay fontiness! [04:27] NeT_DeMoN: try another browser, try wget [04:27] anyone have any ideas for me regarding slow torrent downloads? [04:27] wols_: ok [04:27] TigranG, there are hacks that try to, but I've never seen one work reliably [04:27] NeT_DeMoN: could be a mandatory proxy for example that's slow [04:27] ports have been forwarded..upnp is running [04:27] bit torrent is encrypting the traffic [04:27] I need some help...my graphis are really slow. I have an integrated video card (SIS), and I know I can't get 3-d acceleration, but I'd like to at least play a game like neverball [04:27] i'm connected to all peers [04:28] wols_: ok [04:28] wols: i can't boot to it, shouldn't the force option allow me to mount it even though it wasn;t shutdown correctly? if not how can i "clean" it? [04:28] nickrud: Why isn't this built into gnome tho? Like KDE [04:28] can't break 30-40kps [04:28] joegilliam: you using VESA right now? maybe change it to the sis driver [04:28] TigranG, good question, I've missed it since enlightenment [04:28] or sawfihs [04:28] *fish [04:28] wols_: how do I check to see what driver I'm using? [04:28] wols_: ? [04:28] sysRPL: there is a ntfs fsck program in ntfsprogs or such. but be wary, night not work very well. ntfs isn't well supported in linux at all [04:29] joegilliam: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf [04:29] What's the difference between "GNOME" and "Failsafe GNOME"? [04:29] nickrud: I really want it :P ...been slaving over this all day, nothing works [04:29] quiane: surely the fact that the ubuntu torrent downloaded at avg speed of 200k shows its that particular torrent thats slow? [04:29] TigranG, it's been a wish list bug in nautilus since forever ;( [04:29] wols_: isn't there some why to force it to mount? what about the "-o force" option? i don't know much about linux and i figured i typed the command wrong [04:29] wols_: I'm using sis driver now [04:29] Quiane: this is the ubuntu torrent? [04:30] joegilliam: that's all you can do besides getting new hardare then I guess [04:30] wols_: where do i get wget from?? [04:30] nickrud: guess what [04:30] it shouldn't be downloaded at 28kps consistantly...i usually get over 100k..i typically have to limit my bandwidth to be able to browse [04:30] nickrud: I think Im gonna burst out laughing [04:30] sysRPL: you didn't tell us what command exactly but imho you're mostly out of luck. use a windows BartPE disk [04:30] the ubuntu torrent is getting 200k [04:30] nickrud: I just got it hahaha. it works. [04:30] wols_: when I ran winblows on this computer graphics were fine [04:30] my bit torrent client can't pass 40k [04:31] 28up 28 down [04:31] Quiane: contact your isp--not an ubuntu issue [04:31] it's got to be [04:31] wols_: the command was "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/disk -o force" [04:31] anyone in here use hellanzb? [04:31] Quiane: you are lying: the ubuntu torrent ran at 200 as you yourself said. proving it's not your end that is the problem [04:31] i have contacted the isp...it's not on their end [04:31] nickrud: I was trying to do it with the Cube settings and patched nautilus, but I just tried it with the Wallpaper plugin. works perfectly :) [04:31] i'm lying? lol [04:31] sysRPL: don't use ntfs-3g, use ntfs and mount it read only [04:31] 200 k is about half of my transfer capability... [04:32] TigranG, wallpaper plugin? New to me, point me in the right direction, please [04:32] offtopic Quiane [04:32] Quiane: stop whining about OT things which are wrong anyways please [04:32] realistically it should be transfering faster than 200 k...but..that aside.. [04:32] TigranG, ah, you mean in ccm [04:32] Quiane: you dont always get max speed out of torrents [04:32] nickrud: Yea. Plugin for compiz [04:32] wols_: okay, but anyhow the return of the command i last pasted was "fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/disk: No such file or directory" [04:32] :'S Nobody's going to help me. [04:32] it still shows that you can go well above 28k, and the bad thing about torrents is speed can fluctuate dramatically [04:32] sysRPL: does /media/disk exist? [04:33] Quiane: if you havent already, try limiting your upload speed to ~75% of your max UL speed [04:33] i know, but i can't pass 40k....with gutsy, before i updated, i was consistanly getting 90 - 200 on the torrents [04:33] david__: if you keep up the whining I sure hope no one does [04:33] wols_: i don't know that much about linux to tell you :( [04:33] !piracy | Quiane [04:33] Quiane: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o [04:33] sysRPL: then check? [04:33] wols_: You're not helping. Keep your mean comments to yourself. [04:33] wols_: i wouldn [04:33] err? [04:33] i'm not talking about piracy [04:33] i have bittorrent but it doesnt show up on my apps [04:33] ? [04:33] wols_: there must be some kind of way to get decent graphics, when I ran windows on this computer the graphics were fine [04:33] can anyone help me a resolution problem i am experiencing [04:33] thnx evan [04:33] i'm trying it now [04:33] can somebody tell how to connect to another machine on the network using name and password only? [04:33] how can i configure my wireless via console ? [04:34] hi guys [04:34] wols_: "ls /media" lists nothing [04:34] khelll: with wireless tools and editing /etc/network/interfaces [04:34] nova be specific [04:34] khelll: iwconfig [04:34] sysRPL: that's the problem [04:34] wols_: i wouldn't know where the mount point would be though [04:34] khelll: iwconfig to set the essid "sudo iwconfig essid " then dhclient to get an ip (if you use dhcp) "sudo dhclient " [04:34] khelll: wireless-tools rather [04:34] im looking for some way of getting ssh access entirely via the web - a web based java client wont do it it needs to be something like a html submit [04:34] sysRPL: it's at /media/disk. at least that's what you specified [04:34] Torrents aren't of questionable practice and I didn't see a link to anything questionable? It is off-topic though [04:34] is there a service i can run that does that? [04:35] and spam [04:35] Quiane: search google for bittorrent over ssh to avoid isp bandwidth throttling. [04:35] crush_groove: ok heres my prob, for some reason gutsy will not remember my res, every time i log off my 1920x1200@60 reverts back to 1280x1024@52 [04:35] there is a topic in here? [04:35] s [04:35] tsukasa__: there are some that work via cgi. they are awful. truly aweful [04:35] wols_: well ... what would be a valid mount point name? [04:35] :D alcohol seemed to work, thanks :) [04:35] cursh_groove: i have tried many things to try and solve it but to no avail [04:35] nickrud: If you want it, I mostly followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600909 [04:35] okie..looking [04:35] can somebody tell how to connect to another machine on the network using name and password only? [04:35] anytime boddah82 [04:35] wols_, well i need some way of sshing with using html ports so [04:35] ok, even bigger problem, i cant download anything, it starts but then quits, like my download manager freezes [04:35] sysRPL: /media/disk for example. any empty directory will do [04:35] nickrud: and I have to go, hope it works for you too, bye [04:35] wols_, it might be filtered by packet type too, not sure [04:35] jekasten: another linux machine? And what do you mean connect exactly? [04:36] tsukasa__: then let ssh listen on port 80 or 443 [04:36] wols_: that did it [04:36] wols_: thank you [04:37] wols_: oh, one other thing [04:37] tsukasa__: you're trying to connect to a machine that's behind this firewall? [04:37] wols_ how to run the wireless-tools ? [04:37] wols_: my windows\system32\winlogin.exe file is corrupt preventing windows from starting in any sort of mode [04:37] kelsin, the problem is the internet connection im trying to connect from has massive firewalls / security / etc and they block ssh [04:37] khelll: /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/ [04:38] tsukasa__: do you have access to this machine at all, the one that's behind this massive firewall? [04:38] h [04:38] wols_: how dangerous is to to mount a windows volume in read-write mode? [04:38] kelsin, yeah its the machine im sshing from [04:38] khelll: while you can run iwconfig (part of the wireless tools) for longtime configuration you want to edit your interfaces file or you have to run the commands after every bootup [04:38] tsukasa__: wow they block outbound? [04:38] kelsin, the machine im sshing to i can control completely [04:38] yes [04:38] wols_ can u guide me what to do exactly [04:39] sysRPL: no one knows. haven't really heard of fs corruption due to it yet but it is reverse engineered so no one will ever give you any guarantees [04:39] khelll: no [04:39] does anyone know of a good program for converting video files? [04:39] well the pc is part of a laser machine with linux i would like to log in and change some files there. i cant find a way to see the OS the only thing it provides are network folders tnx [04:39] sysRPL. I have been mounting ntfs partitions in r\w for a long time without problems [04:39] h [04:39] tsukasa__: wow.... blocking ssh outbound sucks, yeah I would make your ssh server run on port 80 on your machine, then run "ssh -p 80 blah@blah.com" when you connect [04:39] kelsin: many companies block outbound except http [04:39] hello [04:40] kelsin, okay ill try that [04:40] daqiu [04:40] wols_: glad I don't work for one of those :) [04:40] anyone know how to make gutsy remember my resolution, every time i log off it reverts back to a lower res [04:40] Flughafen: converting what to what [04:40] wols_: i guess i will copy my files to a usb thumb drive from linux first, then try and write a new winloging.exe to the windows\system32 directory [04:40] hi all [04:40] for a package to be displayed in the update manager for upgrade, is higher version alone is enough or anything else need to be done in the deb package ? [04:40] anything to anything, like .avi to mpeg [04:40] Jesus|Freak: use samba to mount those shares [04:40] wols_: thanks for all the help! i really appreciated it [04:40] yeah isnt the point of security to prevent the outside from getting in rather then preventing the inside to getting out [04:40] bazhang, anything to anything, like .avi to mpeg [04:40] indu: it needs to be in the repos [04:40] any one know what could be wrong if every time i try to download something my download manager quits responding?? [04:41] kelsin i run sudo iwconfig ath0 essid extreme net and i got : Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) : [04:41] SET failed on device ath0 ; No such device. [04:41] I was wondering if some one could tell me how i can install this SecondLife_i686_1_18_5_3.tar.bz2 [04:41] khelll: ifconfig -a. is there a ath0? [04:41] ffmpeg for converting videos... [04:41] khelll: sounds like something isn't right with your wireless driver? any other messages in dmesg about that? [04:41] jon_ where can i get ffmpeg? [04:42] can anyone tell me how to fix compiz on edubuntu? the apps always start blank [04:42] Flughafen: its in the repos but you may want to compile it so you get more (any) codecs [04:42] !compiz | eljefe_ [04:42] eljefe_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion [04:42] elfefe: #compiz-fusion [04:42] exit [04:42] jon_ thanks [04:42] out of curiosity, how do you uninstall the version of Gecko that "wine iexplore" installed? [04:42] wols_ where shall i post the output of that command [04:42] so that u check it ? [04:42] !info ffmpeg | Flughafen [04:42] flughafen: ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 184 kB, installed size 652 kB [04:42] thanks NeT_DeMoN [04:42] I keep getting "Unable to save" errors (Says probably because disk is full). It was full but it's not anymore and I still get the errors. [04:42] khelll: just tell me is there an ath0 shown? [04:43] eljefe: dont thak me, bazhang beat me to it :P [04:43] thank^^^ [04:43] how do i install mp3 for k3b? [04:43] haha ubotu beat us both NeT_DeMoN [04:43] bazhang: lol [04:43] there r both eth0 and eth1 i dont know which of them is the wireless [04:44] bazhang: well you made it [04:44] khelll: if you use madwifi: none of them is [04:44] eth1 most likely khelll [04:44] khelll: run "iwconfig" alone, it will tell you, or should [04:44] bazhang: so technically you beat me :P [04:44] I'm trying to interface my iPod to my Ubuntu machine and get functionality comparable to iTunes - automatic updating of podcasts, audiobooks, etc. Any suggestions on the best approach? [04:44] eth1 unassociated ESSID:off/any [04:44] I was wondering if some one could tell me how i can install this SecondLife_i686_1_18_5_3.tar.bz2 i seemed to forgot the command to install stuff [04:45] aeonix: unpack it [04:45] how do i install mp3 for k3b? [04:45] hi [04:45] aeonix: with tar [04:45] ok again : sudo iwconfig ath1 essid extreme net [04:45] Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) : [04:45] SET failed on device ath1 ; No such device. [04:45] [04:45] bazhang: do you work here or something???, your always in here [04:45] wols_how do i get tar? [04:45] khelll: ath1 is NOT eth1 [04:45] aeonix: you already have it [04:45] !paste | khelll [04:45] khelll: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [04:46] hellooooooooooooooo [04:46] wols_ how do i unpack it then? [04:46] Has anyone got a deb of the Gutsy kernel with SLAB instead of SLUB enabled in order for suspend to work with fglrx? [04:46] grL: hello [04:46] aeonix: with tar [04:47] ok wols_ what is supposed to happen if i do that ? [04:47] khelll: do _what_? [04:47] how r u [04:47] sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "extreme net" [04:47] grL: this is a support channel [04:47] grL: ubuntu related question? [04:47] wols_ i cant find tar [04:47] anyone installed hardy on an MSI 790FX AMD motherboard? [04:47] with 8 seeds and no peers what types of speeds should i be expecting? [04:47] Could anyone help me try to download the driver for Intel Extreme Graphics 2?? [04:47] I don't understand what to do. [04:47] =X [04:48] aeonix: open a termina, "tar --help". there you have it [04:48] grl: try #offtopic [04:48] wols_, i placed the package in the repos, [04:48] Is there a way to map individual keyboard keys, without having to change the entire keyboard map? (for example, changing the Windows key to ctrl+shift+u) [04:49] indu: I kinda doubt it. where did you put it? in what repo? [04:49] heh [04:49] Hullo? === Ashfire is now known as Ashfire908 [04:49] Flughafen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iPodVideoEncoding is a good resource [04:50] wols_, I have my local repo here, to which i freq connect and install my packages [04:50] CrossKel: setxkbmap [04:50] bazhang: dude, every time i try to download something my dowload manager quits responding, do you know what could be wrong?? [04:50] wols_, in synaptic the package is marked for upgrade [04:50] but in update-manager, its not showing that particular package [04:50] !restricted [04:50] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [04:50] NeT_DeMoN: not sure--what are you trying to download? what download manager are you talking about? [04:51] CrossKel, Try System>Preferences>Keyboard shortcuts... [04:51] bazhang: anything and my package manager and my mozilla download manager [04:51] NeT_DeMoN: synaptic? and firefox? [04:52] wols_ is there a gui to pick a the wireless network instead of doing that manaualy [04:52] bazhang: add/remove programs and firefox [04:52] bazhang: i havent tried synaptic === jon_ is now known as kd7swh [04:52] phaedra: Unfortunately, Keyboard shortcuts doesn't seem to offer that (or I've not fully figured it out yet). wols_: thank you. I've not heard of that before; I'm looking into that now. [04:52] wols_ i dont get it tar isnt unziping it [04:52] NeT_DeMoN: what are you trying to install from add/remove? the command line is much easier and will give you some error messages as well [04:53] how to install windows fonts ? [04:53] khelll_: install the msttcorefonts package [04:53] So, I need to stop tinkering with my linux install. I have to reinstall every few weeks. [04:53] bazhang: the wireless assistant and some other stuff like other web browsers [04:53] khelll_: install ubuntu-restricted-extras [04:53] hi all - any suggestions for getting the following hardware bits going? 1) launch buttons (media, mail ,internet) 2) hardware powersaving mode (half speed for processors... turns off the fan if possible) 3) volume control with a wheel [04:53] NeT_DeMoN: more info please--which web browsers? [04:54] bazhang: at first i thought it was my mozilla so i tried to download another browser [04:54] and function key combos for adjusting brightness, volume levels etc === lumpy__ is now known as zzZlumpZzz [04:54] bazhang: opera, and ice something [04:54] bazhang what is that? [04:54] bazhang: iceweasel [04:55] bazhang: I would go with Opera, if you had to choose one. [04:55] nevermind i found some... of it in key shortcuts [04:55] mint: not for me but thanks :} [04:55] HelloWorld: hopefully for the media keys you can just goto the keyboard shortcuts app in System -> Prefs and set them [04:55] will ask again in a bit if i can't find the rest [04:55] kelsin thanks realized that right before you responded :) [04:55] HelloWorld: :) [04:56] kelsin msttcorefonts : package is not avaliable [04:56] Is there any program that will like, set the system state, so when I decide to tinker with my box, I can revert it, when I break something. [04:56] NeT_DeMoN: where do you want to install this from? the repos are the best bet--for opera I believe you have to enable the non-free repos in synaptic [04:56] !info opera [04:56] Package opera does not exist in gutsy [04:56] is it possible to password protect a folder on [04:56] is it possible to password protect a folder [04:56] AmbienNOD: Yea. [04:56] how? [04:56] AmbienNOD: Truecrypt. [04:56] AmbienNOD, yeah, I think there are a few ways....you can use Truecrypt or GnuPG for example [04:57] AmbienNOD: Good for protecting your porn folder. [04:57] bazhang: add/remove programs under apps, ok, can you tell me how? [04:57] I mean... >_> [04:57] awsome thanx i'll try them out [04:57] * NeT_DeMoN is about to just throw this computer away to start with and get a new one :P [04:57] can anyone help me with installing Gutsy Gibbon off a LiveCD? [04:58] needhelpinstalli: Just click install. [04:58] o_O [04:58] needhelpinstalli: whats the problem? [04:58] What part do you need help with? [04:58] !opera | bazhang [04:58] bazhang: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser. Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser [04:58] How do you recover a lost password. I can't ID my nick [04:58] I'm trying to install it to a 2GB CF card that is my computer's primary hard drive [04:58] how do i unpack a .tar.bz2? [04:58] kelsin the lauch buttons was able to configure, thanks [04:58] the installer says it needs minimums 2GB [04:59] NeT_DeMoN: synaptic, not add/remove--you need to enable the non-free repositories [04:59] but then it is dying at 73% without a popup [04:59] saying disk full [04:59] for the audio wheel, no luck same with the low power/noise mode [04:59] and then t installer just disappears [04:59] bazhang: ok [04:59] needhelpinstalli: is the disk actually full? [04:59] yes [04:59] Hirvinen: haha--that is not for me :} [04:59] kelsin : Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package. [04:59] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [04:59] is only available from another source [04:59] why time command does not accept format argument? =/ [04:59] I did a search online [04:59] jon_, now this is gonna sound like a dumb question. ffmpeg is installed and compiled. How do i use it? I cant find it [04:59] and came up with a bugtracker report [05:00] that says that GG does not handle full disks gracefully [05:00] and the installer just dies [05:00] needhelpinstalli: you can try using the server install cd [05:00] needhelpinstalli: do you need a gui? [05:00] nick J_F [05:00] on earlier versions it seems like you coudl use the command archive-copier/copy=false [05:00] J_F [05:00] to save space on installation [05:00] but now is it only gui install? [05:00] i coudl live without gui [05:00] time -f "\t%U user,\t%S system,\t%x status" > -f ? [05:01] i have a problem! [05:01] Goodrow: what's the problem? [05:01] goodrow: you and everybody else ;) [05:01] is the server install going to get me a usable desktop install? [05:01] haha i know [05:01] needhelpinstalli: you can use the server install, then install ubuntu-desktop [05:01] anyone here know how to use ffmpeg? [05:01] help, when I run # /etc/cron.daily/logrotate it says [05:01] well, i posted on the forums but didnt get a response, you can read it all there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3977388#post3977388 [05:01] error: error accessing /var/log/ntop: No such file or directory [05:01] error: ntop:1 glob failed for /var/log/ntop/*.log [05:01] There's a command to see if 3D acceleration is running correctly. it was something | grep something. Anyone know? [05:01] needhelpinstalli: at least then you can clean out the package archives [05:01] is there any way for me to use the archive-copier/copy=false command anymore? [05:01] why is it want an ntop directory? [05:02] Goodrow: I don't have web access at the moment (at work), you'll have to count me out I'm afraid [05:02] how do I turn on direct rendering [05:02] ? [05:02] /etc/logrotate.d/ntop found it. [05:02] Goodrow: actually.... I might be able to get it - hang on [05:02] does anyone here know how to use ffmpeg? [05:02] well, i can simplify it: windows can connect to a low wireless signal but ubuntu cannot. ubuntu either loops trying to connect, or doesnt show the network [05:03] what is "rendering"?? making ? [05:03] Eagleray: it does, however, connect when the signal is strong [05:03] how can I restart nautilus since installation ? [05:03] Goodrow: which wireless chipset/driver are you using? === Jesus|Freak is now known as J_F [05:03] cr4 isnt in panel ? === amidaniel|away is now known as amidaniel [05:04] broadcom, and one i found online through ubuntu support [05:04] how do I turn on direct rendering so I can run opengl games? [05:04] How do you recover a lost password for a nick? Sendpass does not work. [05:04] i couldnt get bwcutter working (looking back because i didnt have the developer essentials), so i grabbed one offline [05:04] <[gquit]bombadil> joegilliam: what kind of video card do you have? [05:04] crush_groove, I have some problems with gnome all the folders on home appears in desktop [05:04] J_F: reset it [05:05] crush_groove, I have move some thing in gconf-editor but it doen't works [05:05] How do you do that [05:05] crush_groove, what shoul I do ? [05:05] Goodrow: which kernel do you have, and which broadcom driver? There are two, one for the new stack and one for the old stack [05:05] [gquit]bombadil: i have an sis integrated video adapter [05:05] J_F: do you have access to an account that can sudo? [05:05] cr4 "cd /bin/usr ./nautilus" [05:05] Is there an upto date guide for installing USHARE or FUPPES? for ps3 and xbox360??? [05:05] Goodrow: 'uname -r' will tell you your kernel [05:05] are you still there? [05:05] NO [05:05] <[gquit]bombadil> you'll have to check to make sure opengl is supported in linux with that driver [05:05] Eagleray: not on linux right now [05:05] <[gquit]bombadil> you may have to install a different driver [05:05] i'm using gutsy though [05:06] <[gquit]bombadil> or get a different video card [05:06] [gquit]bombadil: vesa? [05:06] <[gquit]bombadil> vesa is the default driver [05:06] <[gquit]bombadil> that doesnt support opengl [05:06] J_F: reboot, select "recovery mode" from the grub menu, do the following command: passwd USER. Where "USER" is your actual username. [05:06] Goodrow: I have no idea which kernel gutsy is supposed to have at the mo - I use debian, not ubuntu, and I usually do my own kernels anyway [05:06] crush_groove, it says that it couldn't find urs in bin [05:06] !who | J_F [05:06] J_F: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [05:06] <[gquit]bombadil> joegilliam: you'll need to get one more specific to your videocard [05:06] Does anyone know which kernel version gutsy uses by default? [05:06] [gquit]bombadil: I have the sis driver installed, don't know much about it though [05:07] no I lost my nick password in irc [05:07] does anyone here know how to use ffmpeg? [05:07] cd /bin/usr then type ./nautilus [05:07] Does anyone know how I can follow this advice using a 7.10 install CD, "On your next install, you can try passing the following argument: [05:07] archive-copier/copy=false [05:07] This argument tells the archive-copier to not copy all the packages onto the hard-drive." [05:07] Flughafen, Not a clue, I just know it works. :) [05:07] it seems like I can only install via a GUI? [05:07] Ttech, have you ever used it? [05:07] [gquit]bombadil: it's an sis video adapter (silicon integrated systems) its integrated into the motherboard [05:07] could the driver be the issue? wouldn't it not work at all with the driver for the wrong stack? [05:07] Anyone know how to get the NetworkManager to recognise ppp0 as a viable pptp tunnel interface? [05:07] J_F: then you need to speak with a freenode staff member. See freenode's faq on how to contact one [05:07] bazhang: my synaptic quit responding now [05:07] Ttech, I installed it and cant find it [05:07] Flughafen: A lot of people know how to use ffmpeg, but until you describe your problem no-one knows if they can help you. Can you explain in more detail please? [05:08] wols_ : setxkbmap looks like it is what I have been looking for, once I understand it. Thank you very much! [05:08] <[gquit]bombadil> joegilliam: that's what i figured, it seems that the driver you have installed doesnt support opengl [05:08] Flughafen, I'm not sure if that exact thing, but it would probbably be a commadn line app. I know I needed it to decode or help decode dvd's in ubuntu. Or somemthing liek that. :) [05:08] Goodrow: possibly, and the linux broadcom driver also doesn't have fully implemented noise filtering yet [05:08] I installed ffmpeg and can not find it. I must be an idiot but i dont know what to do [05:08] <[gquit]bombadil> joegilliam: you'll have to either find one or figure out a different answer [05:08] cr4 Im very sorry its /usr/bin [05:08] [gquit]bombadil: ok, thanks [05:08] ahhh that might be the issue... any other recommendations? [05:09] dyslexia kicked in [05:09] crush_groove, np [05:09] Flughafen, If you haven't already guessed The_Doctor2 and Ttech is the same person. :P [05:09] Flughafen: how are you trying to run it? Are you aware that ffmpeg is a commandline program? [05:09] Eagleray, no i was not aware [05:09] can any one help me with my download problems, i cant download anything [05:09] Eagleray, is there a tutorial or something showing me the commands [05:09] Flughafen: it doesn't have a GUI and won't appear on your menu - it's a commandline transcoding tool [05:09] Eagleray, yea, thanks [05:09] !ffmpeg|Flughafen [05:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [05:10] haha [05:10] net, using a browser? a specific program? [05:10] Flughafen: hang on, I'll see if I can find you a tutorial - the work people just enabled my net access :D [05:10] hi [05:10] hi [05:10] i have a question [05:10] Eagleray, hah thanks [05:10] goodrow: anything, synaptic, mozilla, updates [05:10] hello all [05:10] ok i asked this twice but my pidgn doesnt seam to follow on so i lost the reply [05:10] Goodrow: just have a play with your driver; if you can, disable powersave mode [05:10] ahjie, just state the question [05:10] i have problems with the qemu... the error is... FLOPPY ERROR: fdctrl_write_data: unknown command: 0x2e [05:11] eagle, ill try that [05:11] Goodrow: also please address your messages, otherwise I miss them [05:11] i am a new user of ubuntu..and I have installed 6.06. However i do not know is ubutntu6.06 is known as debian ? [05:11] Eagleray: haha will do, my mirc exploded so im using cgi irc. lemme go toy with the driver a bit [05:11] when i booting win98, the terminal give me this error end freeze... [05:11] ahjie, yes [05:11] is there any way for me to delete some files, such as unnecessary software, before installing 7.10 from the LiveCD? I'm running out of disk space in the installer [05:11] crush_groove, ok I have done but I maked a restar and that folders still there, I mean in desktop [05:11] atheros card worked in feisty but broke in gutsy, i have no alternate internet how do i get it to work? [05:11] how bout Fedora ? [05:12] crush_groove, that are the same files enside of /home :( [05:12] what is the differences [05:12] ahjie, this us Ubntu [05:12] how can i disable the floppy access in qemu? [05:12] ahjie, no [05:12] how can i disable the floppy access in qemu? (maybe in the bios) [05:12] ahjie, this us Ubuntu not Fedora. [05:12] needhelpinstalli: i dont think so, use alternate? [05:12] Flughafen: take a look at http://swoolley.org/man.cgi/1/ffmpeg (the ffmpeg manpage) [05:12] dbuZer, I think its sa commadn line option for quemu [05:12] :) [05:12] Eagleray, thanks [05:12] is it totally different OS? [05:12] Ttech: how can i do this? [05:12] Flughafen: you can also access this on your system by going to #ffmpeg in konqueror, or typing 'man ffmpeg' into a terminal [05:13] Is there a way to delete all files under a certain size? [05:13] ahjie: ubuntu is based on debian, it is not debian [05:13] did something happen to flash in ubuntu? flashplugin-nonfree isn't that good anymore [05:13] cr4 /home/usrname will have the some of the stuff on your desktop and vice versa . thats normal [05:13] Eagleray, i dont use kubuntu, i dont have konqueror [05:13] Ose: you can use the 'find' command [05:13] Ttech: i cant inicialize win98 in the qemu... always give-me this error and freeze... [05:13] !debian | ahjie [05:13] ahjie: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu! [05:13] stacey: if I use alternate is it going to be di fficult to get the install into a state that I can use as a desktop without a lot of linux experience? [05:13] bazhang: my synaptic quit respondig when i did that [05:13] responding^^^ [05:13] Flughafen: then you can view it through the terminal, or online via the link I gave you [05:14] bcoz i came across an installer which is for Fedora [05:14] crush_groove, no, two ahour ago it was different [05:14] can someone help-me with qemu? [05:14] jrib: I'm using the find to look for all files in subsequent directories.. That could be adapted to also find them of a certain size? Less than a size, actually. [05:14] crush_groove, I have had my ubuntu runing really cool 6 months :( [05:14] when i try to go google. it returns me debian [05:14] and i thought it refers to same thniog [05:14] Ose: yes [05:14] Eagleray, thanks [05:14] i cant run win98 in the qemu... the install finished ok, but this don't start... always fail when try to access a floppy [05:14] cr4 . that is al I know to do . maybe sum1 else here can help. [05:15] ahjie: www.ubuntu.com vs. www.debian.org [05:15] i love ubuntu [05:15] praise ubuntu [05:15] Flughafen, all *buntu apps are compatible you can install Konquer in Ubuntu, and X* apps in ubuntu vise versa [05:15] ohh [05:15] :P [05:15] is there any difference between server install and desktop install other than the lack of GUI at first? [05:15] crush_groove, ok thank's [05:15] dbuZer, Hmm, I don't know, I use VMWare server which is free and a lot nice. :P [05:15] Its just not open source [05:15] jsilverman: nice to know you have a support question? [05:15] jrib: ANy idea what the command w*ould look like? [05:15] sum1 could you help me ? [05:15] needhelpinstalli: i think its doable but ull be missing useful apps, just apt-get *buntu-desktop should give basics but it will give you most of the livecd stuff anyway [05:15] dbuZer: have you actually specified the floppy image or device? [05:16] dbuZer: what are you trying to do? [05:16] is there any way to install from the desktop livecd from the command line so I can pass it options? [05:16] wols_, sorry, i was away from my system for a while [05:16] bazhang: hell no. i run Shaivist Ubuntu... sm0kin' === NoorIslam is now known as NoorulIslaam [05:16] wols_, in synaptic the package is marked for upgrade, but in update manager the package is not shown for upgradation [05:16] Eagleray: i have a img file... that call win98... i use this to run: #qemu win98 [05:16] offtopic jsilverman === voltHeir is now known as voltHeir_afk [05:16] wols_, anything else to be done for my package during the build time ? [05:17] dbuZer: you need to specify your floppy there too [05:17] my atheros card worked in feisty but broke in gutsy, i have no alternate internet how do i get it to work? [05:17] i'm making a ubuntu distro that is about smokin weed [05:17] Ose: I would have to read the man page. Just search for "size": /size then tap 'n' until you find something interesting [05:17] dbuZer: for example, '# qemu -fda /dev/fda win98.img [05:17] jsilverman: try #offtopic [05:17] ok [05:17] Eagleray: i think the problem is with the floopy, when qemu try to access the floopy in the so, this fail and freeze the screen... theres a way to disable floopy emulation? [05:17] jrib: I'm taking a look at the manual right now. THanks. [05:17] Eagleray: ok... i will see here.. wait [05:18] jsilverman try using rodent killer [05:18] I need to buy an external hard drive for my Ubuntu laptop. What do I need to do to get it working with my machine? [05:18] some help, please: how I install the dssi-vst? I was install wine, and donwload dssi-vst, but, how I install it? [05:18] my god my computer is pissing me off [05:18] rkj very few modles dont work with ubuntu [05:18] too many damn problems [05:18] excuse my language please [05:18] NeT_DeMoN: what could b wrong [05:19] Eagleray, so, how would i convert a .avi to theora? [05:19] stacey thanks but don't they usually come preformatted as ntfs or something? [05:19] Eagleray, im having trouble understanding this tutorial [05:19] jsilverman: what do you mean? [05:19] Eagleray: when booting win98 the terminal show this and stop emulation: FLOPPY ERROR: fdctrl_write_data: unknown command: 0x2e [05:19] is there a package that I can install that has the c compiler and other things commonly needed when building from source? [05:20] Eagleray: i just tried with this -fda parameter and this has seem my floopy, but the same problem happen [05:20] build-essential joegilliam [05:20] bazhang: thanks [05:20] rkj you can reformat, and ubuntu can reed and write (in the latest anyway) [05:20] any solution for my problem ? [05:21] some help, please: how do I install the dssi-vst? I was install wine, and donwload dssi-vst, but, how do I install it? [05:21] stacey Would I need to reformat with the ext3 filesystem? [05:21] Eagleray: in the ctrl + alt + 2 there some option that i can disable the floppy? did you know that? [05:21] bazhang: what are the commands to download stuff through the terminal, like so i dont have to come in and ask yall for a certian command everytime i try [05:21] http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy NeT_DeMoN [05:21] !wf [05:21] Sorry, I don't know anything about wf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [05:22] bazhang: thanks [05:22] !wifi [05:22] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [05:22] how can I reset the sound driver? I'm getting crackly stuff, not unexpected, the computer's been on for ages and I left a flash audio player open [05:22] how can i disable emulate access to floppy diskete in the qemu??? [05:22] its possible? [05:23] stacey did you mean ubuntu can read and write ntfs? I read that is only in 7.10, I have 7.04 installed. from what I've read, it can read but not write to ntfs. [05:23] CrevilO: try to unload the modules [05:24] CrevilO: with the rmmod [05:24] dbuZer: thanks [05:24] !ntfs [05:24] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [05:25] CrevilO: rmmod -f may help better === crush_groove is now known as crushin[A] [05:25] sorry, anyone know if the flashplugin-nonfree installs a kinda old version of flash ? [05:25] dbuZer: I'm getting "Resource temporarily unavailable" [05:25] !NTFS-3g [05:25] rkj any pre 7.10 install needs apt-get ntfs-3g but if youll only use the drive n ubuntu reformat to ext3/fat (wndows can read that) [05:26] ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions [05:26] CrevilO: kill all process that uses your sound card (kill -9), after, search for the modules for you card (lsmod), and unload... after all, reload then [05:26] heha [05:26] dbuZer: ok [05:26] i looking for a banastic gui network config, where i can enter more than just 1 ip adress [05:26] whats a site where i can download login screens from?? [05:27] hello, 6 gigs ok for a VM HD for install of 7.10 GG? [05:27] stacey can you point me in the right direction to learn how to reformat the drive as ext3? (seems like the easiest option) [05:28] Hey guys, im looking to have an ubuntu machine connected to my tv via the vga port, how would I remote into the machine to control the display, to play a movie for instance. [05:28] somebody here know how to solve this problem? FLOPPY ERROR: fdctrl_write_data: unknown command: 0x2e [05:28] in the qemu [05:28] somebody here know how to solve this problem in the qemu? FLOPPY ERROR: fdctrl_write_data: unknown command: 0x2e [05:28] Has anyone got a deb of the gutsy kernel with SLAB? [05:28] heh how can i move from ext3 to reiser4 without format? [05:28] !gparted [05:28] GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/ [05:28] hi [05:29] rkj im not in my install atm cant rember the command but you could use parted or gparted [05:29] !gparted | rkj [05:29] rkj: please see above [05:29] !repeat | dbuzer [05:29] dbuzer: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience [05:29] is there a reason iwlist doesn't show link quality [05:29] and iwconfig for that matter [05:29] ubotu: yes, i waiting for... [05:29] ^^ [05:30] dbuZer: he is a bot :} [05:30] lol [05:30] Al2O3 yeah that should be fine as long as you don't go downloading big torrents n stuff, i have not a vm install before myself, but you should at least 4 and a half gigs probably five or more left [05:30] bazhang: heheheh [05:30] cryosphe1-> because the driver for your chip does not support such feature? [05:31] can someone help-me [05:31] ?? [05:31] can someone help-me with qemu??? i need tips that that i cant find in google... :( [05:31] is there a basic smtp server for ubuntu that I can use for just sending me emails from my box? [05:31] anyway i just dropped in real quick to test the irc in opera [05:31] !qemu [05:31] qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo [05:32] jga23: posix, sendmail ? [05:32] yeah i need qemu to compile crap for my dreambox [05:32] !qemu | dbuzer [05:32] dbuzer: qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo [05:32] ok i have a hd that i believe has a bad sector is there a linux tool that i can use to scan it and fix it? [05:32] i use a DOS tool for this [05:32] nownot: use a zero filling tool [05:33] hello [05:33] hi [05:33] how do i do that. well how do i know if the hd is actually being read by the os? [05:33] lol free to try to help me out? [05:33] Hello Everybody [05:33] Flughafen: it's not a tutorial, it's a manual page with options [05:33] hey people [05:34] do u know how to enable file sharing?> [05:34] I am going to reinstall 7.10 [05:34] Flughafen: as far as converting specific files with it, I'm not too good - I don't really use it I'm afraid [05:34] bugsy969: whats your problem? [05:34] MAHE, like, with a windows box? [05:34] if i have a router and 2 pc's? [05:34] Is it possible to avoid redownloading updates? [05:34] Eagleray, whatever it was it confused and scared me [05:34] thanks anyway... :( [05:34] both ubuntu and windows here [05:34] MAHE, do you have a shared drive on the windows machine? [05:34] dbuzer: how do i do that. well how do i know if the hd is actually being read by the os? [05:34] i mean i have shared it [05:34] by right click [05:34] MAHE, right, on the windows machine, right? [05:34] yeah [05:34] Eagleray, i just want to take a few .avi files and make them into something else, anything else [05:34] can i share it? [05:35] nownot: fdisk -l [05:35] dbuZer: sorry for vanishing there - work called [05:35] just wondering about the Wine sofware.. i went through everything to make sure i have the right drivers for my Radeon 9600 which was a huge pain.. but still, a simple game like starcraft is running exstreamly choppy [05:35] MAHE, do you know the IP address of the windows machine? [05:35] !wine | bugsy696 [05:35] bugsy696: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility. [05:35] Flughafen: then try re-asking your quesion here, or on the forums, or googling for a howto [05:35] yeah both of them---192.168.1.4 and .5 [05:35] sunogbaga: i did that and i only saw one hard drive and its not the one im having a problem with [05:35] and i want to share files [05:35] bw them [05:35] how do i? [05:35] MAHE, ok, well you should be able to go to Places [05:35] Flughafen: don't be too fixed on ffmpeg either - there are other solutions [05:36] and I think it's.... browse to server [05:36] network places? [05:36] Eagleray, ive looked at a few how to's i didnt find anything to helpful [05:36] Flughafen: VLC can do this quite nicely with a GUI [05:36] Eagleray, what other programs are there? [05:36] oops [05:36] ? [05:36] just noticed that [05:36] Eagleray, how do you do it with VLC? [05:36] Flughafen: does VLC sound more like what you're after [05:36] ? [05:36] nownot: means os wasn't able to read it [05:36] thanks i'll check out the form [05:36] MAHE, or Network? [05:36] whenever I opend my rapidsvn from gui shortcut.. and I update.. it says .. permission denied error but when I open it from terminal using sudo rapidsvn.. it does update... how can I make my gui shortcut to work with sudo credentials... ??? [05:36] Eagleray, i use VLC for playing, i didnt know it could do that [05:36] !wine | bugsy969 [05:36] bugsy969: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility. [05:36] still this crappy atl_xmit frame0 blah error [05:37] nownot and other guys who don't know what too to use for what, when in doubt use the apropos command to search what available apps are on your ubuntu box, you will find there are many things at your fingers tips to handle many things [05:37] i dont get u mr phusion [05:37] Flughafen: VLC can do a lot of transcoding stuff too - look in the 'open file' dialog for the GUI to do this [05:37] shit something else i can try [05:37] there is a network places folder in windows [05:37] shud i go to ubuntu [05:37] ? [05:37] Flughafen: it's in the same section as streaming, only you want to stream to a file rather than over a network [05:37] MAHE, you know on the Ubuntu desktop, there's buttons called Applications and there's one called Places [05:37] ok [05:37] nownot: well did bios recognize ur hd? [05:37] i know [05:37] Eagleray, awesome thanks [05:37] yes it did [05:37] MAHE, yous hould be able to browse your network from there [05:38] Flughafen: no problem, hope it was helpful [05:38] ok...no setup needed after conecting the pc's? [05:38] MAHE, you may need to install samba [05:38] MAHE, from the command line type sudo apt-get install samba [05:38] kk [05:38] and how to get the ip adrress and all? [05:38] and to enable sharing 4 a folder? [05:39] well from windows command line you can type ipconfig to see your ip [05:39] sunogbaga: yes it did [05:39] MAHE: u don't need the ip addresses [05:39] you need to install samba to share w/ windows [05:39] Eagleray, yea it was [05:39] but you should be able to just access any shares on your windows machine [05:39] from linux [05:39] well, phusion, i want to share 2 pc's both with ubuntu [05:39] well bye this but a test or opera's irc ability... [05:39] ahhh [05:39] will it work? [05:39] I asked before and you said one was windows :/ [05:39] nownot: perhaps the more knowledgable people here can help you.. [05:40] both having both [05:40] sorry [05:40] i just need to transfer files [05:40] somehow [05:40] on any os [05:40] i have got an adsl 2+ router [05:40] I guess NFS would do it. [05:40] !enter | MAHE [05:40] one second [05:40] MAHE: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [05:40] ok sorry mr ubotu [05:40] whats nfs? [05:40] network file storage [05:41] MAHE: ubotu is a bot, not a person [05:41] !ubotu [05:41] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [05:41] I have a dell e1505 laptop and every time I try to use a mic the program running crashes is there any one here who can help me? [05:41] I mean system not sotage [05:41] MAHE: u just need samba [05:41] network file system I think, but at any rate [05:41] did you issue that command MAHE? sudo apt-get install samba [05:41] hey can u help me a bit more, i dont know what is samba and all [05:41] ok [05:41] I'm still here heh [05:42] leme boot into ubuntu [05:42] !samba | MAHE [05:42] MAHE: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT [05:42] brb [05:42] hey [05:42] MAHE: samba is a suite of linux apps for sharing files with Windows over the smb/cifs protocols [05:42] i dont need to cooperaTE WITH windows [05:42] !samba|MAHE [05:42] MAHE: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT [05:42] ubuntu to ubuntu only [05:42] Eagleray: how do u share with between ubuntu to ubuntu [05:42] MAHE, that link will help you [05:42] FluxD: I use NFS [05:43] for ubuntu to ubuntu transfer> [05:43] ? [05:43] yeah [05:43] and all this time i thoght sanba was a dance [05:43] Eagleray: how do u set it up? [05:43] MAHE: how often are you wanting to transfer files - a one-off, or repeatedly? [05:43] MAHE, lots of people use samba to share between linux boxes, it supports more than just file sharing [05:43] FluxD: see what I just asked MAHE [05:43] hey eagerlay, one off [05:43] i have a hd that i think has a bad sector. bios will reconize it but when i do fdisk-l its not there. i want to scan it for bad sectors and repair. is there a linux tool i can use? [05:43] Eagleray: repeatedly [05:43] just a big file [05:43] and music [05:43] MAHE: then use SCP, it's easier [05:44] whats that? [05:44] FluxD: then use NFS or samba [05:44] in ubuntu rite? [05:44] MAHE: scp = secure copy [05:44] is it a software? [05:44] Eagleray: link on how to sset it up [05:44] !ssh [05:44] SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ [05:44] !scp|MAHE [05:44] MAHE: SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/ [05:44] is there a way to automatically id3 tag all my mp3's? maybe getting the info from the net or something? thanks everyone [05:45] jones: I think amarok has a plugin for that [05:45] FluxD: install nfs-kernel-server on the system sharing files, and nfs-common and portmap on both [05:45] jones: there are apps that will do it based ont he file name [05:45] yeah amarok is a good bet. [05:45] FluxD: then edit /etc/exports to define your shares, and restart nfs-kernel-server [05:45] hey eagerlay, is there a similar way for one off transfer in windows? [05:45] Eagleray: and using samba? [05:45] FluxD: Once you have done that, just mount them on the client machine [05:45] fluxd: have u found that amarok s better than a standalone prog? [05:45] phusion: any recommendations? [05:45] MAHE: you can also use sftp [05:45] FluxD: The instructions I gave you were for NFS. Samba is considerably more complex [05:46] in windows? [05:46] jones: theres a program called picard which is standalone I think it also has a linux version [05:46] jones: amarok [05:46] from google: "You can right click on an artist/album/track (anything) in the collection view. There will be an option to Edit Metadata or Edit Artist Information or something along those lines (not near Amarok currently). There will be a checkbox for "Per Track" at the bottom left of the dialog that appears." [05:46] MAHE: i thought ubuntu->ubuntu only.. [05:46] MAHE: you can use SCP/SFTP in windows if you want, via a program called 'WinSCP' [05:46] ok [05:46] ubuntu > ubuntu will b better [05:47] MAHE: then just use sftp [05:47] jones, http://easytag.sourceforge.net/ [05:47] MAHE: SCP can do ubuntu->ubuntu quite nicely [05:47] fluxd/phusion: thanks i am looking into it now [05:47] okay..is it prerinstalled? [05:47] k [05:47] MAHE: yes [05:47] so nobody knows a way to format a hd that isnt reconized in ubuntu but is in the bios? [05:47] MAHE, i have my network set with samba - The manner in which Phusion was guiding will get you there [05:47] Eagleray: is there an scp client for ubuntu? [05:47] nownot, tried a boot cd? [05:47] how can i run emerald themes without beryl [05:47] FluxD: yes, it's part of ssh [05:48] phusion: dont see how that will help [05:48] Eagleray: I mean GUI [05:48] FluxD: comandline client called 'scp' [05:48] hello, im having some trouble following this guide : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=574501 ... when i run the command "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" my computer freezes completely [05:48] nownot, well, you could try using for instance Hiren's Boot CD that has many utilities on it for hard drive management [05:48] FluxD: not sure to be honest - I assume there is, but I do most tasks like that in a terminal [05:48] MAHE: yes [05:48] or you could google hard drive utility boot disc [05:48] or something along those lines [05:48] hmm will try [05:48] FluxD, gftp does ssh graphically [05:49] FluxD, or places->connect to server [05:49] nickrud: scp = ftp over ssh right ? [05:49] FluxD: no [05:49] FluxD, no, secure copy, sftp is secure ftp [05:49] the ubuntu on one of pc's has a problem [05:49] shit [05:49] what eactly is secure copy? [05:49] nickrud: sftp and scp is the same [05:49] !language | MAHE [05:49] MAHE: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [05:50] FluxD: it's a file copy method that uses ssh as a transport to copy files between machines [05:50] wols_, at the base? thanks [05:50] hey..can i just download winscp and then just start transferring files in windows? [05:50] yes [05:50] FluxD: you use it in almost exactly the same way as you'd use cp (copy) [05:50] sftp is the same protcol as scp: transferring files over ssh [05:50] wols_, never used sftp, scp has been good enough for me :) [05:50] MAHE: yes [05:50] without clicking on share folder and bla bla? [05:50] and other settings? [05:51] wols_: it's not, SFTP is a similar protocol and usually looks the same to the end user, but it's not the same as scp [05:51] MAHE: yes of course you can [05:51] hello im having an issue after i reinstalled to gutsy - for some reason when i try to switch screen resolution absolutely nothing happens - the resolution stays the same [05:51] Eagleray: and what is ftp over ssh called? [05:51] so far i just know that ping command is succesful [05:51] Eagleray: then what is the difference? [05:51] but the computers dont show each other in network places [05:51] FluxD: it's called FTP over ssh - there's not really any such thing [05:51] im havin sex [05:51] * nickrud bows out of this network talk, he knows he's an imbecile here [05:51] FluxD: there is ftp with ssl, not ssh [05:51] FluxD: SFTP looks and acts like FTP, but it's not really FTP at all [05:52] MAHE: please use the nick to address who you are talking to [05:52] Eagleray: what is the difference between sftp and scp then? [05:52] can anyone help me with my screen resolution problem? [05:52] darobsta, Nothing like a little spamming? Hmm? === chesty is now known as apt [05:52] wols_: SFTP contains a whole pile of junk for folder creation & manipulation etc, listing, things like that [05:52] sunogbaga: like this? [05:52] Example "Wols_ I think Ubuntu rocks!" [05:52] has anyone ever managed to get a dlink dwa-552 working using ndiswrapper and have a moment to spare ? [05:52] it doesnt change color [05:52] !! [05:52] wols_: SCP is a simple copy usility - basically cp on steroids [05:52] MAHE: exactly [05:52] its like cp for remote resources [05:53] but u can change color when u address me...i can't? [05:53] wols_: *utility [05:53] lol [05:53] MAHE: to address someone, just type their name in front of your message [05:53] When they address you it changes colors because it's a notification flag :) [05:53] MAHE: depends on your irc client [05:53] MAHE, when you address us, it changes color here [05:53] oh [05:53] its built into your irc client. [05:53] nickrud: Does it change color ? [05:54] MAHE, bright red :) [05:54] yipeeeeeeeeee [05:54] anyone? [05:54] thanx... [05:54] i have installed winscp on one of the pc's [05:54] If you address me, I will see it in the color that I have chosen for notifications, but nobody else will see it like that. [05:54] SunmanXII, when you change resolution how? [05:54] Phusion: Shud i do it on next ? [05:54] MAHE, english please [05:54] is anyone pretty familiar with ndiswrapper ? [05:55] !u | MAHE [05:55] MAHE: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun. If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you". The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on.. [05:55] err, i thought i always speak english, cz i know that only [05:55] * Phusion cries [05:55] cz? [05:55] because [05:55] <--- cursed [05:55] sorry [05:55] so, anyway [05:55] I'm confuised, winscp is windows app [05:55] you keep changing [05:55] do you have two windows machines, or two ubuntu machines or what [05:55] pleeease? [05:55] Phusion: WinSCP is an SFTP and SCP client for windows [05:56] you need to have winSCP on whatever windows computer needs to talk to an ubuntu one [05:56] 2 windows...now [05:56] I know! [05:56] oh no [05:56] MAHE: please use the nicks when addressing [05:56] ok, two windows. [05:56] sunobaga: Ok [05:56] Phusion: it's designed to access *nix systems, and windows servers that happen to be running an SFTP service [05:56] you don't need SCP for two windows [05:56] I have an install of ubuntu server and I need to add xwin and gtk for an application I want to run. Is there an easy way to do that ? [05:56] please stop telling me what WinSCP is [05:56] derrley: yes. just install it [05:56] Phusion: Can u just tell me HOW can i transfer files.......? [05:56] somehow?anyhowe? [05:56] SunmanXII, first, could you answer the question? What method of changing the resolution that doesn't work? [05:57] hola, how can I change my firefox plugins so that the ogg Mime type is processed by totem instead of mplayer? when I go here: http://theorasea.org/ is says mplayer is being used, when I do about:plugins in fx, it says both totem and mplayer are set to go on ogg === apt is now known as chesty [05:57] MAHE, sure, if we're just clear on some things, you want to know how to share files between two Windows PCs on a router, correct? [05:57] MAHE: have you tried anything yet? [05:57] MAHE: run a ssh server on ubuntu and a sftp client like filezilla on windows [05:57] yeah [05:57] Eagleray: whats the difference between sftp and ftp over ssh ? [05:57] Phusioc:Yeah [05:57] Phusion: oops, sorry - I thought you were asking [05:57] ok, so ubuntu is no longer in the equasion. [05:57] wols_: do I just need to install the libgtk package or is there a more straightforward way to fetch all the xwindows stuff? (like in opensuse they have "patterns") [05:57] but I don't know how to ctually change it [05:57] Eagleray, nope, not at all [05:57] excuse me...does anyone know when will flash package be back on...? [05:57] derrley: install xorg [05:57] could anyone give me a hand with ndiswrapper when they get the chance ? [05:57] oh this is ubuntu forum [05:58] FluxD: STFP is an FTP-like protocol that runs over the SSH stdin/stdout data channels [05:58] so u wont answer it , right? [05:58] derrley: that is if you actually want a x server. if you only need clients install xbase-clients [05:58] lol [05:58] jahlin: what u need help with? [05:58] well, this isn't the place to ask. [05:58] datakid_, I just remove totem-mozilla and use mplayer exclusively [05:58] FluxD: FTP over ssh is FTP running through an SSH tunnel [05:58] love ubuntu as love myself [05:58] I'm in settings->content->mime types but locate totem turns up a bunch of things, and I've no idea which is the plugin [05:58] Phusion: I have been trying to connect them for past 15 hrs [05:58] go to ##windows MAHE === NoorIslam is now known as NoorulIslaam [05:58] ok [05:58] well you've been asking for help in the wrong place [05:58] MAHE: easy answer: buy a crossover cat5 ethernet cable, connect ethernet port to ethernet port [05:58] Eagleray: oh thx [05:58] nickrud: cheers, but I'm actually doing testing to see what works [05:58] MAHE: both windows PCs have an IP right? also you have a sharename? [05:58] cortado similarly doesn't work [05:58] wols_: the server is the one doing the rendering, right? (And the client is where the program is running?) or is it the other way around. I always forget. [05:58] i've been selling ubuntu for fun and profit... what charges do i face? [05:59] certain death. [05:59] wols_:yeah [05:59] fluxd : im trying to install the latest version of ndiswrapper, v1.51 [05:59] offtopic KiD_ChAoS [05:59] Phusion, lol [05:59] datakid_, never could get that setting to work, tried many times. I adapted :) [05:59] :) [05:59] derrley: correct. servre diplays on screen, client is where the app actually runs [05:59] jahlin: I always compile from source [05:59] people in windows forum don't know a thing [05:59] FluxD: i extracted the source , i'm in the dir [05:59] i tried already [05:59] MAHE: \\ip\sharename === speeddemon8803 is now known as speeddemon [05:59] wols_: in run? [05:59] MAHE, you can put that in the start -> run box [05:59] MAHE: and just cuase they don't know, this is not the place to ask for such a question [05:59] MAHE: yes, in run [06:00] FluxD: sorry you'l have to forgive me i type 1 line @ a time.... i run make distclean then make then sudo make install [06:00] \\ip.address.\share [06:00] oops [06:00] \\ip.address\share [06:00] jahlin: I used the wiki article let me find it for you [06:00] FluxD: everything seems to go ok, but when i do ndiswrapper -v it shows version 1.45 [06:00] Eagleray: It doesnt work [06:00] why would trying to use a mic crash a program [06:00] ? [06:00] jahlin: u downloaded or compiled 1.45 ? [06:00] has anyone encountered spyware on ubuntu [06:00] Phusion: I don't think i will ever be able to transfer the file [06:01] thanks anyway [06:01] MAHE: what doesn't work exactly? You are asking about so many things it's hard to be sure what you actually want [06:01] yeah [06:01] we can't help when you're all over the place === speeddemon is now known as speed_demon [06:01] MAHE, try this http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto/net.asp [06:01] first it was two ubuntu boxes, then they were windows boxes.. [06:01] FluxD: nope [06:01] MAHE: can we start all over again? [06:01] Eagleray: I have 2 windows pc's with ubuntu, of which one of the ubuntu is not working [06:01] i might've had it running before, but removed it [06:02] jahlin: first step is to find the old ndiswrapper filed and remove it [06:02] sunogbaga: Okay [06:02] hey does anyone know why i would be restricted frm acessing my keyring it doesnt even prompt me for a password [06:02] FluxD: may i pm you ? [06:02] jahlin: sure [06:02] hello? can anyone help me? [06:02] MAHE: so you want to transfer a file from a system that is CURRENTLY RUNNING ubuntu to a system CURRENTLY RUNNING windows? [06:02] MAHE: a windows pc is not ubuntu. so you have one ubuntu PC and one windows PCs? [06:02] if you ask a question someone can SunmanXII [06:02] MAHE: we are going to use sftp okay? [06:03] !resolution | SunmanXII [06:03] SunmanXII: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto [06:03] sunogbaga, not on windows === speed_demon is now known as speeddemon8803 [06:03] everyone: I just came to know u cannot acces windows rive on an ubuntu [06:03] SunmanXII: read that link and then come back [06:03] yes you can! [06:03] Phusion: sure. ssh on ubuntu, filezilla or such one windows (and there is openssh for windows too if you want) [06:03] so i have to use windows on both [06:03] MAHE: you can access them just fine [06:03] SunmanXII, or answer a question so people can help you troubleshoot [06:03] !audacity [06:03] Sorry, I don't know anything about audacity - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [06:03] wols_, yeah but thats just silly :) [06:03] have a rest bye everyone [06:03] i have windows ruuning on both now [06:03] !find audacity [06:03] Found: audacity [06:04] MAHE: first of all what os'es are we really gonna use? [06:04] windows+windows [06:04] MAHE: then you are wrong here and should ask on ##windows. good day [06:04] !info audacity | MoreAllLess [06:04] moreallless: audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.3-1build1 (gutsy), package size 2321 kB, installed size 6832 kB [06:04] MAHE: then fine a FAQ on windows networking [06:04] MAHE: then you should't ask the question here [06:04] wols_: so to be clear, because I'm not too bright ;), installing xbase-clients will let me ssh -X to this box and run windowed applications? [06:04] wols_:people in windows forum r stupid [06:04] MAHE: copying windows->windows is a windows problem and doesn't belong here [06:04] sunogbaga, Eagleray, Phusion: he runs windows, no ubuntu to be seen anywhere. the is OT. if you want to help him please do it in ##windows [06:04] MAHE: not our problem [06:04] and i have been googling these things [06:04] without success [06:04] nickrud: Thanks for correcting me! [06:04] yeah I told him that [06:05] MAHE: I could say something but then someone said !ohmy or such. so I won't. but you are not supposed to ask windows questions here. please leave [06:05] MoreAllLess, not correcting, helping :) [06:05] i am trying to download the torrent for Ubuntu, but it is extremely slow. any ideas as to why? [06:05] okay if i install ubuntu on one pc again, and have vista on another...can u help me? [06:05] nickrud: right, thanks! [06:05] MAHE: yes [06:05] Moult, getting throttled? [06:05] MAHE: yes [06:05] Yes [06:05] phusion: where do i download hirens boot cd? [06:05] Moult, or just slow on ubuntu [06:05] but for chrissake install XP if you have it [06:05] im pretty impressed with wine, so far everything i've thrown at it works like a charm. is there anything this wonder program can't do? [06:06] Mahe:If you have ubuntu on any computer and ask ubuntu related questions we can help you, otherwise, no... [06:06] vista >> xp [06:06] * nickrud runs for exit [06:06] Phusion: everybody can install the toxic waste he wants. not much difference between pest and cholera here, vista or xp [06:06] KiD_ChAoS, play crysis? [06:06] oh but it's more like the flu and ebola [06:06] or anything dx10 [06:06] Hey, what program is the little calender that pops up when you click the date link too? [06:06] Is it possible preserve updates, i am going to reinstall ubuntu [06:06] twiztr, that's the clock applet [06:07] raddy: copy the contents of /var/cache/apt [06:07] !aptoncd | raddy [06:07] raddy: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers [06:07] nownot, hirens is illegal I think, has some pirated software, check out the knoppix cd, or use the ubuntu cd's livecd [06:07] i've even installed microsoft exchange 2008 on wine and it works fine [06:07] KiD_ChAoS: nice, but offtopic [06:08] Hi, I was wondering if there was a way to toggle off the starting of a service at boot, although it is not listed in the services under System>Administration>Services [06:08] nickrud: I mean, I know when you click on it, and see the calender, it can show you all the appointments you have made, but I don't know what program you have to save the appointments in. [06:08] tsukasa__: sorry i don't understand [06:08] DragonSpirit: yes. /etc/rc0.d /etc/rc2.d/ or /etc/rcS.d/ has a symlink to it. delete it [06:09] DragonSpirit, install sysv-rc-conf , you can run it from the terminal [06:09] i'm just tyring to download the torrent, and i have a stunning 2kb per second download speed [06:09] DragonSpirit: for a normal-mode startup, the symlinks wols_ mentioned will be in /etc/rc2.d/ [06:09] twiztr, oh, that's saved in evolution, the mail/calender app [06:09] someone has just installed a sinister LKM on my machine what do i do.... i already punched em' [06:09] Moult: Probably because your ISP throttles it. [06:09] Moult: What internet do you use? [06:10] KiD_ChAoS: LKM? [06:10] wols_, nickrud, & Eagleray: thanks, I will give it a look [06:10] KiD_ChAoS, pass me the password [06:10] internet? you mean my ISP? [06:10] loadable kernel module [06:10] KiD_ChAoS: reinstall [06:10] Moult: Yea. [06:10] this machine is compromised forever [06:10] Moult: What other internet can I be talking about? [06:10] uh, TMNet [06:10] ok wols_ [06:10] KiD_ChAoS, if you're serious, don't trust your data even [06:10] it's a malaysian internet [06:10] Nmap is listing open ports, but only gives the number of filtered/closed ports. How can I get it to list filtered ports individually? [06:10] Google TMNet torrent throttling. [06:10] ubuntu really has a nice irc channel, I almost expected a "rtfm" or something, thank you for being nice [06:11] no nickrud not serious [06:11] wols_: iam on create partition disk of ubuntu installation [06:11] !rtfm [06:11] Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period. [06:11] how do go about now? [06:11] cohete: |grep filtered. but: if it's your own machine you run nmap on, nmap is useless. use netstat [06:11] MAHE: create one [06:11] !install | MAHE [06:11] MAHE: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [06:11] nickrud: my mistake if I broke a channel rule by typing it [06:11] wols_: I'm running scans on a remote server I'm setting up [06:12] Wow I use ubuntu now on virtual machine and it's working so blazing fast [06:12] DragonSpirit, no, no, that's the proper use of it :) [06:12] cohete: you have root on that server. so nmap is still the wrong tool. use netstat [06:12] wols_: the problem is that only open ports are listed individually. So I can't grep since the data isn't even there [06:12] is there any way I can use the 3d desktop on unbuntu on VM [06:13] cohete: and besides: why do you run a firewall? what for? [06:13] mohamed: no [06:13] mohamed: no [06:13] thanks for answer [06:13] wols_: i believe in redundant security [06:13] Anyone know how to get the 2nd window of gimp opened again? i accidentally closed it and dunno how to bring that window up again [06:13] I'm just amazed how ubuntu that fast on vm [06:13] cohete: I believe in closed ports [06:13] cohete, try installing nmapfe , it's a gui that will let you set options like that easily. But as wols implies, netstat is going to tell you the important stuff [06:14] wols_: i don't understand. aren't filtered ports more secure than closed ports, which could be opened by a new process? [06:15] cohete: if a process opens a port there is already malware running on the system in which case yoU#ve already lost [06:15] Hello, I'm havnig problems getting grub to boot windows [06:15] cohete: and due to firewalls, most malware uses things like port80 anyways to not have troubles with firewalls and the like. port80 rarely is filtered... [06:16] anyone know of a mind numbingly addictive game written for X on linux, my girlfriend sometimes is at home before I am home from work and she likes simple addictive games to pass the time [06:16] !grub | purpleposeidon [06:16] purpleposeidon: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [06:16] How do i prevent andale32.exe from trying to install itself each time I run a apt-get install ? [06:16] Except I installed windows, installed ubuntu gutsy, and there isn't a boot menu or anything... [06:16] Vinno, file->dialogs-> create new doc [06:16] biju: something does not compute. apt-get doesn't install .exe programs... [06:17] purpleposeidon: what do you have then? [06:17] wols_, Its trying to install msttcorefonts each time [06:17] biju: then you tried to install mssttcorefonts some day and didn't properly do the install [06:17] biju: pastebin the full output [06:17] DragonSpirit, frozenbubble [06:17] hey is there some easy way I can switch from dual screen with nvidia twinview to single screen for playing games without having to edit xorg.conf and logout and back in? [06:18] ohla [06:18] wols_: I just have ubuntu, I have windows on (hd0,4) [06:18] DragonSpirit: lbreakout [06:18] *I just have ubuntu on menu.lst [06:18] purpleposeidon: do you have a grub menu, yes or no? [06:18] yeah [06:18] hi, i just asked about my resolution problem on this channel and got a link to [06:18] purpleposeidon: sudo update-grub might help. if not: pastebin your menu.lst [06:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto [06:18] wols_: Will do... [06:18] nickrud: thanks, I was thinking that one too, I had not played it since my days of using mandrake, when it used to be called that, maybe it will be even nicer [06:19] wols_, http://pastebin.com/m5dae8206 is the output of installing drivel [06:19] purpleposeidon: did you have a primary partition before installing ubuntu? cause windows boot drive on a extended partition is kinda strange IIRC [06:19] Nickrud, oh, talkinga bout the window dialog that starts with gimp, like it has layers and all that in it [06:19] however, when i did the first instructions the xserver went into low graphics mode and now i can only use one resolution. i can post my xorg.conf if youw ant to [06:19] DragonSpirit, I've wasted much office time on that one :) [06:19] anyone [06:19] ? [06:20] Vinno, yes, that's the one. [06:20] biju: dpkg -r msttcorefonts [06:21] SunmanXII, yes, do that, plus /var/log/Xorg.0.log , and the output of lspci | grep -i vga [06:21] SunmanXII: sure,. do it [06:21] wols_, Same thing it trys to install the package again [06:21] post the xorg.conf? [06:21] ok... [06:21] SunmanXII: all what nickrud said === ktogias_ is now known as ktogias [06:22] ---- [06:22] # xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) [06:22] # [06:22] # This file was generated by failsafeDexconf, using [06:22] # values from the debconf database and some overrides to use vesa mode. [06:22] oh, no [06:22] wols_, On the bright side it is getting some data this time [06:22] well, I guess floodbots work [06:22] biju: problem was the sf.net server it tried was down [06:23] wols_, Ah so IM not technically doing anything wrong :D [06:23] i think i got kicked off for that [06:23] SunmanXII, put it up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org [06:23] SunmanXII: pasting in channel is a dumb thing to do. I hope you've learned that now :) [06:24] yea sorry my bad. [06:24] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48811/ [06:24] wols_: can i setup a proxy server out of a ws with only 1 nic and a router? [06:24] Is beagle a better replacement for trackerd? I've read that its in alpha and mostly unusable [06:24] sunogbaga: proxy what and how exactly? [06:24] SunmanXII, we need the /var/log/Xorg.0.log and output of lspci | grep -i vga as well [06:25] you could set up a proxy on localhost if you wish (e.g. privoxy and tor) === biju is now known as FIlled-VOid === ce_siplah is now known as cwantiex [06:25] root (hd0,4)\nchainloader +1 just hangs at "Starting up ..." [06:25] anyone have a good job [06:25] ? === neptunepink is now known as purpleposeidon [06:26] wols_: root (hd0,4)\nchainloader +1 just hangs at "Starting up ..." [06:26] xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48812/ [06:26] SunmanXII, first thing, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg to get a default xorg.conf [06:26] wols_: i want my ubuntu to be a proxy server however it only has one nic.. i was just thinking if its possibe to connect it to the router and act as a proxy for all the other ws connected to the same router [06:26] SunmanXII, log out and back in [06:26] nickrud: i tried and it went into the same thing [06:27] What are some cool applications for Ubuntu? -- just whatever [06:27] purpleposeidon http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48813/ [06:27] SunmanXII, that's not a standard ubuntu xorg.conf ... [06:28] purpleposeidon: if you enter them in the proxy settings of the browsers: yes. will work fine [06:28] SunmanXII, and we also need that lspci | grep -i vga , it should be one line you can paste here [06:28] nickrud: i know before it went into the failsafe mode it looked fifferent [06:29] sunogbaga: that proxy talk above is for you of course [06:31] nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48814/ - does this look normal for xorg.conf [06:31] Hello! [06:31] So if I installed World of Warcraft with crossover, where would I find it to unzip my add-ons? Like, what is C:/Program Files to ubuntu? [06:32] whats the deal with flash and md5sums? [06:32] can i upgrade straight from 6.06 to 7.10 by changing dapper to gutsy in the repos? [06:32] nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48815/ [06:32] zero__: no [06:32] fuck [06:32] zero__: To go from dapper to gutsy, you need to go dapper edgy feisty gutsy. Or just wait for 8.04 and upgrade straight there [06:32] nickrud: thats the lspci | grep -i vga output [06:33] I'm at a complete loss as to where that would be (newbie at Linux). [06:33] Old_Gregg: depends on your wine configuarion. it could be anywhere, probably under you ~ tho somewhere under .wine [06:33] can i upgrade using CD? [06:33] I have a spare PC at home running ubuntu, I have assigned it a static ip, but after some time it tends to find another ip by itself , which config file is doing this? [06:33] SunmanXII, looks much better. Where'd the refresh rates come from, you add them? [06:33] Is there some way I can upgrade to 7.10 when my boot drive is too small? Can I extend it somehow then remove the old kernel before I reboot? [06:33] zero__: yes [06:33] sweet [06:33] ty [06:33] wols_: Forgive me, I don't really understand that. Under me? [06:33] zero__: Yes, but again you need to upgrade dapper > edgy > feisty > gutsy. Just like downloading, but without the internet [06:33] vb: /etc/network/interfaces or gnome-network-manager [06:33] zero__: Your other alternative is to just reinstall. Or again, wait until hardy, and upgrade dapper > hardy [06:34] Old_Gregg: ~ is shorthand for your home directory [06:34] flannel: why can i upgrade to 8.04 when is out, but not straight to 7.10 [06:34] Micc: Your /boot only as enough room for one kernel? [06:34] hello [06:34] I've looked in /home/greg/ but I don't see anything but desktop. [06:34] Flannel, yeah I don't know why I was so stupid. [06:34] zero__: cause 8.04 is a LTS vresion like dapper is [06:34] nickrud: i dont think so.i did reconfigure xserver-xorg with the default [06:34] zero__: because 6.06 > 8.04 is designed to be done, LTS to LTS upgrade, that is. [06:34] how do i tell update-grub to configure another kernel in menu.lst? [06:34] nickrud: should I do it again? [06:34] Old_Gregg: it's probably a dotfile. starting with a dot -> hidden from normal view [06:34] ah, any idea on when 8 [06:34] SunmanXII, your ati card isn't supported by the default ubuntu driver, you need to hit alt-f2 , run restricted-manager , and select the restricted ati driver. Then reboot. [06:34] 8.04 comes out?> [06:35] zero__: april of 08 [06:35] ubotu: as the name says: april 2008 [06:35] could anyone tell me why this is missing from my ifconfig ? [06:35] thank you [06:35] Old_Gregg: ~/.wine/drive_c/ [06:35] jahlin: WHAT is missing? [06:35] nickrud: ok, but it worked fine before i tried to reconfigure. [06:35] wols_: I only have one ethernet card on the other pc, named eth0 , which I have assigned it as static on /etc/network/interfaces, however I am also seeing eth1, eth2, ath0 and wlan0 being assigned dhcp [06:35] SunmanXII: there is a backup of the old xorg.conf in the /etc/X11/ directory [06:36] wols well im trying to make that nic usable, i installed ndiswrapper and followed the wikki [06:36] Flannel 1k-blocks: 35424 used 17569, available 15965 used 53% /boot [06:36] sunogbaga: Thanks. Next question: How do I navigate there? Do I need to use a terminal or can i do it in Firefox? [06:36] vb: only if those interfaces actually exist [06:36] but it doesn't seem to make a wlan0 upon reboot [06:36] nickrud: i enabled the driver for the ATI card and im going to restart now... brb === amidaniel is now known as amidaniel|away [06:36] Micc: and you have no old versions of the kernel in there? [06:36] wols_: how can I make sure they exist? [06:36] Old_Gregg: firefox is a webbrowser. not a filemanager [06:36] !away > amidaniel|away [06:36] wols_: What is the equivalent of Windows Explorer in Ubuntu? [06:36] Old_Gregg: Nautilus on GNOME [06:37] Old_Gregg: nautilus [06:37] Oh, shush [06:37] Old_Gregg: you can use nautilus.. click places->home press CTRL+H to show hidden files [06:37] Flannel: theres a initrd.bak in there [06:37] Old_Gregg, firefox [06:37] amidaniel|away: please respect the channel rules. Flannel is right [06:37] Old_Gregg, never mind me, I just read back [06:37] nickrud: that's internet explorers equiv [06:37] can anyone help me get my network controller working ? i see it in lspci but i can't use it [06:37] Micc: No older kernel versions? wow. You really did choose a tiny /boot. Well, you could move /boot off its own partition (back ot your /) to do the upgrade [06:38] jahlin: what controller is it? [06:38] wols_: see above [06:38] sunogbaga, I almost never hear windows users say internet explorer :) [06:38] nickrud: Sorry for my newbness, but I'm not seeing Nautilus. How do I open it? [06:38] jahlin: answer my question please [06:38] I'm having a problem and I am in need of ideas on fixing it. Recently my notebook became so slow that it is unusable. I am doing this from a live cd. No matter what I boot into, Gnome or Openbox, it is so slow that typing or mouse movement lags behind. I can not run the memtest from the grub menu, my system shuts down on me. It seems to work ok if I boot into recovery mode, or use a live cd, but my actual run is quite slow. I can not think of any other way t [06:38] Old_Gregg, places->home will start it up for you [06:38] wols_: sorry, exec didn't output to chan sec [06:39] 00:0a.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5416 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless PCI Adapter (rev 01) [06:39] Flannel: can I do that while its running? [06:39] 00:0a.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5416 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless PCI Adapter (rev 01) [06:39] nickrud: Just noticed the other guy pointed me there. I'm in it now. :D Thanks [06:39] nickrud: my mistake also when i said firefox is internet explorers equiv.. :D [06:39] jahlin: and madwifi explicitly doesn't support that chip? [06:39] sunogbaga, rflol [06:39] wols_: pardon me ? [06:39] Flannel, I mean, don't I need to be in single user mode? [06:39] jahlin: the driver for atheros cards is madwifi. while you can use ndiswrapper, you shouldn't [06:40] ooh === Solver_ is now known as Solver [06:40] so remove ndiswrapper and get the madwifi driver ? [06:40] !madwifi | jahlin [06:40] jahlin: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [06:40] nickrud: I don't have anything in here like .wine [06:40] jahlin: pretty much [06:40] Micc: Um, hmm. I guess I've never thought about it. Probably not, but its certainly worth a try. A liveCD is what I'd choose. Don't delete /boot, just remove it from fstab, and then copy the stuff (cpio method, not cp) to /boot === gradin_ is now known as gradin [06:40] Old_Gregg, the rest of the other guys post said how to see it, press ctl-H with the mouse over the window [06:40] any ideas? [06:41] hi, does anyone know why lucida handwriting font does not look right in openoffce? [06:41] Old_Gregg, or, View->Hidden Files [06:41] simimi: P4 laptop? [06:41] nickrud: I did that. I have like .gnome .gnome2, etc. but no .wine or .crossover [06:41] HPdv 2000 [06:41] Old_Gregg, that means you haven't run winecfg yet [06:41] How come there is not /usr/include/GL/glut.h on my ubuntu hard drive? [06:41] wols_: I am trying to connect the spare pc to this laptop that has internet connection, I am able to ping www.google.com from the spare pc, but I am getting almost 50% packet loss, consequently the page does not load up on firefox, and it is stuck at waiting for www.google.com [06:41] simimi: does it use a P4, yes or no? [06:41] Old_Gregg, according to my very limited knowledge of wine, for more wine questions you'll need someone else :) [06:41] Old_Gregg: run winecfg first [06:41] nickrud: I have a .nautilus but I went in there and there's nothing there. And I run Crossover. I've installed it and used it to install WoW [06:42] Can I limit ssh login to only the home folder? Like chroot in an ftp program [06:42] vb: ifconfig -a [06:42] nickrud: Thanks for the help just the same. :) [06:42] Old_Gregg, wow runs fine on crossover? [06:42] wols_: a P4? I am not sure what you are asking for... I do not think so, but then again [06:42] nickrud: Yessir. [06:42] * nickrud files that away [06:42] simimi: what kind of cpu. it could be it is overheating [06:42] nickrud, wols_: everything worked, i can change my resolution now. thanks a lot guys! [06:43] My Ubuntu doesnot detect my embedded webcam, Sonix, on my laptop..anyone can help me.. [06:43] sunogbaga: Any idea where this directory is? Where did WoW get installed? Is there a way I can run a search for it? [06:43] wols_: AMD Turion 64x2 [06:43] wols_: I dont know why eth0 ip address is changing by itself, I made it static in /etc/network/interfaces and removed other eth's [06:43] simimi: possibly the old mainstay of acpi troubles [06:43] vb: gnome network manager? [06:43] AHA! [06:43] SunmanXII, good to hear. If you're interested in running compiz for the pretty desktop, install xserver-xgl and emerald and compizconfig-settings-manager , then log out and back in again [06:43] Found it! [06:43] Old_Gregg: yes of course... run updatedb first then run find [06:43] Checked the properties of the desktop icon [06:44] The notebook has worked fine for a while but suddenly nothing, it even has a cooling mat... acpi really? Wow I never would have guessed that... but acpi is turned off on kernel boot, boot with noacpi [06:44] heh: Bit Torrent Clients are usually the fastest, most affordable and most convenient way to share files among many users. Most Bit Torrent P2P users can find plenty of files available and download them with ease. With the explosion of broadband, you can easily find and download files of any size, from mp3's to large multi gigabyte video files. [06:44] seems extremely slow for me [06:44] vb: just uninstall you dhclient. no more dhcp :) [06:44] anyone know if I can limit ssh access to only the root folder? [06:44] user root folder, ofc [06:44] wols_: how to uninstall ? [06:44] downloading the ubuntu .iso at 0.9kb per second [06:44] FOR THOSE USING CROSSOVER: .cxoffice is where it defaults to as your "C:" [06:44] vb: like you uninstall everything else [06:44] wols_: should i just just run make disclean then make then sudo make install ? [06:45] \join #pida [06:45] Moult: that maybe a router/NAT/Firewall issue [06:45] vb: dpkg -l|grep -i dhcp [06:45] jahlin: no [06:45] sunogbaga: any ideas how i can identify and fix whatever problem there might be? [06:45] jahlin: might have to ./configure again after make distclean, not sure [06:45] Old_Gregg: it's not find, locate :P [06:46] jahlin: you should never use make when the software is already in ubuntu [06:46] Moult: usually it should easily get fixed by port forwarding [06:46] Eagleray: if you haven't changed it, run "uname -a" in a terminal [06:46] Is there any programs that can convert a ntfs partition into like a linux partition without deleteing the stuff on it [06:46] scguy318: that would be my mistake.. :P [06:46] wols_: so just apt-get madwifi ? [06:46] Vinno: formatting it? [06:46] Vinno, no [06:47] THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP! :D [06:47] sunogbaga: an yes, the thing said that the port was not available or something [06:47] here is the link to my forum thread, it at least contains a dmesg output [06:47] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=643813&highlight=crazy [06:47] sorrry install* [06:47] Damit. [06:48] sunogbaga: yes it says that the port could not be forwarded...however i don't know how to fix it [06:48] simimi, installing a really light environment would tell you if it's gnome slowing you down. A simple check [06:49] hello! I have a question, it is this: I've just started using pidgin, and I realize this: when I am paying attention to chats, noises drive me nuts, if I turn them off however, I neglect my conversations with friends. is it possible to make a script that would make a noise when a message containing a certian string is received? This functionality seems to be available for chat (chimes on detecting username) but not for IM. [06:49] nickrud: I ran with Openbox only and it is the same, even the boot is long [06:50] simimi, ah, misread what you wrote then. Over my head really. Sorry [06:50] Moult: see http://portforward.com/ [06:51] zoexii: umm you could install pidgin-libnotify and then you can set it to give little pop ups for different events, like sign on or sign off, or just to show the messages you're receiving as you get them [06:51] nickrud: no worries, I'll keep looking/guessing I suppose [06:51] simimi, ask here off and on, real devs sneak through now and then [06:51] nickrud: okies [06:51] <_Casey_> i just installed the new 7.10 from a cd and im having tons of problems [06:52] please? can I limit user ssh access only to the users home-folder? [06:52] macogw: will that work with a compiled version? (the one in packages wasn't compatible with my employer's jabber service) [06:52] i love me some ubuntu :O [06:53] <_Casey_> i only love ubuntu when it works correctly [06:53] whoops didn't want to join this evil channel [06:53] <_Casey_> i cant install alot of stuff [06:53] <_Casey_> andrew why did you join ;x [06:53] yeah, i wish i could get photoshop working :x [06:53] _Casey_, like what? [06:53] so any other ideas anyone? Did anyone see anything odd in the dmesg? [06:53] <_Casey_> well [06:54] zoexii: umm....you can do "apt-get source pidgin-libnotify" and then compile that. because no, the binary wouldnt recognize your compiled one [06:54] my apt is out of date. I can't install or remove anything. [06:54] <_Casey_> i cant get xchat or konversation or my alsa driver or kwifimanager [06:54] and I've tried install -f and it dies on lib32asound2 [06:54] <_Casey_> bunch of stuff not working [06:54] hello. i'm using gutsy and having a weird problem with my second hard drive. the main hard drive is SATA, but because of space and cabling issues the secondary (IDE) hard drive is slave to the dvd burner (i'm saying this cuz i suspect it may be the root of the problem). i'm dual booting vista/gutsy and everytime i boot to gutsy my hard drives switch from sda to sdb (ie: sometimes the primary is sda, sometimes is sdb). this is rea [06:54] lly annoying because i have to rewrite fstab by had each time and remount. does anyone have any clue as to why this is happening? [06:54] _Casey_, try system->admin->software sources, make sure the first four are ticked, and the cdrom is not [06:55] <_Casey_> well no, like i see them but they wont install [06:55] Micc, could you put the complete output of sudo apt-get -f install on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org [06:55] can i pause the torrent download, reboot my router, then change the port on my torrent client then resume the download...and will it be faster after that? [06:55] _Casey_, could you do the same with sudo apt-get install xchat [06:55] god [06:55] highlights suck :\ [06:55] yes? [06:56] are the repos slow tonight? [06:56] rflol [06:56] zebginen: i wouldnt be surprised if you're right about the slave-to-dvd thing being the trouble. you can get a IDE->SATA converter, i think, to hook up your IDE drive as a slave on the SATA cable [06:56] Moult: what client are you using? most support restarting torrents. [06:56] <_Casey_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) [06:56] <_Casey_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [06:56] wonder if a reinstall would fix it [06:56] _Casey_: it's either in use right now (auto-updater checking for updates) or you didnt sudo [06:56] _Casey_, close synaptic and/or update-manager [06:57] <_Casey_> ah ty [06:57] thank everyone! Thanks wols_ === sub is now known as sub[t]rnl [06:57] zoexii: uTorrent [06:57] <_Casey_> !hda [06:57] Sorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [06:57] <_Casey_> !hdaintel [06:57] For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto [06:57] hi, I need an advice, I'm a php developer what is the better choice to install tools for deveolpment, xampp or apache-mysql-php separated? [06:57] Moult: ?? really? on wine? yes, uTorrent can restart downloads. [06:58] macogw: hmmm. i'll give that a try. [06:58] lonejack, stick with the ubuntu stuff, you'll be happier. [06:58] <_Casey_> oh now it works :/ [06:58] <_Casey_> brb [06:58] zoexii: no i'm on windows...i'm trying to download ubuntu [06:59] wols_: wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta gives me error icotl no such device after installing madwifi [07:00] wols_: ok, the internet is working now on the spare pc too [07:00] wols_: but still it is too slow ! , compared to what is on my laptop [07:01] Could someone please help me figure out why I can't add items to "Sessions" to make them autostart when I login. I can add them, but when I re-login, the programs don't start and they're no longer listed in "sessions" [07:01] hello! im looking for linux-compatible server/desktop motherboard. any suggestions? preferrably on Intel or Asus boards. thanks in advance! === Kwitschibo_ is now known as Kwitschibo [07:02] macogw: thank you. [07:02] Creationist, if my memory is right, you have to hit the save session button on the last tab. Could be wrong though, it's been a while [07:02] nickrud: Well, that will automatically start whichever programs are currently running when I click that button. [07:03] nickrud, so what ubuntu component can I install... Oh,... excuse me, this is my first day on ubuntu === netdemon is now known as NeT_DeMoN [07:03] Creationist, yes, trying to remember... [07:03] ok testing port now [07:03] can any one help me with my sound problems?? === Icarus is now known as DarkW0lf [07:04] lonejack, apache2 , php5 , mysql-server-5.0 [07:04] Creationist, you have the "enabled" box ticked right? :) [07:04] NeT_DeMoN: what is it now?? :P [07:04] darkw0lf: still the same, just seeing if some one can help me further [07:04] Creationist, heh [07:05] hmmm the port still doesn't forward [07:05] Creationist, been a while since I played with sessions [07:05] NeT_DeMoN: what's the problem? [07:05] guys [07:05] darkw0lf: it just wont work === amidaniel|away is now known as amidaniel [07:05] darkw0lf: i just dont know why [07:05] henu_: Of course. But the entries are completely removed when I log out. [07:05] Can I restrict an ssh user to only its homefolder? [07:05] darkw0lf: bazhang said it could be a wireing problem [07:05] hey everytime i hit ctrl-alt-F12 my computer does something wierd [07:06] KiD_ChAoS: Then stop hitting that. [07:06] why is it i cant run office 2003 using wine, it runs but it prompts that it is not installed for the current user [07:06] KiD_ChAoS: don't worry about it [07:06] riaal: You can restrict them to a secure bash shell, which won't let them leave their home folder. [07:06] lol [07:06] amidaniel: great, what to google for? [07:06] cntrl+alt+F12? [07:06] yeah [07:07] nickrud, I'll do that, last thing, with add/remove option from menu isn't possible direct installation, have I to do apt-get apache2 and so on? [07:07] kid_chaos: its supposed to [07:07] a shortcut key for radmin in running in wine but radmin doesn't grab it, the OS does [07:07] riaal: No need :) Try http://www.felipecruz.com/blog_restricte-linux-users-to-their-home.php [07:07] KiD_ChAoS, just hit ctrl-alt F7 to get back to X [07:07] do you know what its doing [07:07] lonejack, you can do that, with all on the same line. Also, there's system->admin->synaptic , add/remove is a brain dead version of synaptic [07:07] can anybody here help me get this port forward on my uTorrent? [07:07] KiD_ChAoS: there are 7 different window types of things [07:08] hi i am trying to update my system from a cd, to gutsy but i think i broke something. when i do the update, it tells me that it can only do a partial update now [07:08] if you hit ctrl+alt+F1 you get one of the command line windows [07:08] ctrl alt f7 gets you back tyo the gui [07:08] do i have to type the ID just like they have it to come up red on their screen? [07:08] DarkW0lf, ok ic [07:08] nickrud, thank you!!! And great community [07:08] there are 6 of those, and then there's ctrl+alt+F7 which brings back to the runlevel 5 (X) [07:08] Ctrl-Alt F1-F6 are normal Text login consoles.... F7 is the X.. F8 kinda logs stuff. [07:08] staykovmarin: any particular reason you can't just download the upgrade? [07:09] IndyGunFreak: i am on dial up [07:09] NeT_DeMoN, yes, but you can type only part of it and hit tab [07:09] there you go you get a whole bunch of answers :P [07:09] staykovmarin: ok... [07:09] henu_: ok thanks [07:09] lol [07:09] lonejack, one wierd thing: the last time I installed those three, firefox refused to run php, wanted to download it. Tried several times, then in frustration told it to download the file. Boom, it started working. [07:09] hmm [07:09] a lil problem... [07:09] staykovmarin: i've saw that problem mentioned here before, but don't know the solution, [07:10] just installed ubuntu-server and it always boots me into grub prompt [07:10] okay i will look it up [07:10] hello everybody [07:10] hello steven3454 [07:10] atpa8a: it'll do that [07:10] when i try to run grub-install it says: The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. [07:10] atpa8a: are you sure its not a CLI command prompt, and not a grub prompt? [07:11] oh [07:11] nevermind [07:11] it's a grub shell prompt [07:11] ok [07:11] Hello everyone. I'm having problems with the physical eject button on my DVD ROM drive. It doesn't eject when there's a disc in, despite the fact that it works all the time in Windows and BIOS, and in Ubuntu without a disc. I've read up and posted in the forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=637590), and it seems like 1) this is supposed to be enabled, but 2) there are other people having this problem as well, and it seems to [07:11] I just reinstalled ubuntu on a virtual machine and I'm using it simultaneously with windows....and im LOVING IT!!!!!! [07:12] steven3454, you are going about things backwards you know [07:12] Jeah, did you try to EJECT it from Nautilus? [07:12] how so ( i have a feeling what you mean) [07:12] any cure? [07:12] steven3454: thats kinda like putting a lawn mower engine in a corvette === ajmorris_ is now known as ajmorris_|AFK [07:12] Jeah: you have to unmount the disc first [07:12] can any one help me with my borders disappearing? [07:13] schmicck: Don't know if I've tried Nautilus, but I can definitely do it in a terminal. I'd just like for the actual button to work. [07:13] NeT_DeMoN, weren't we talking about frozen windows last night? [07:13] argh it keeps on saying that the port isn't open...any help to open a port for uTorrent? [07:13] After mounting it, the physical eject button is disabled .. cd must be ... Ejected or unmounted.... try with 'sudo umount /cdrom' (omit quotes) [07:13] Hello, how do i set boot 'noapic' === Emu is now known as E-mu [07:13] nickrud: i think, but no one told me how to solve it, it did it again today [07:13] howdy All!!! [07:14] well whenever i tried using ubuntu alone without windows, I would always go back to windows due to the ease and availability of software made for it, yet I love the stability of ubuntu and all the other cliche things about it. So i fugre this is a good half-way point [07:14] I use DVDFab Platinum to rip my dvd's to avi divx on my windows machine... what would be a good app to use in ubuntu? [07:14] NeT_DeMoN, in ccsm, there's an option under window management, move windows. Make sure it's ticked. One possible answer [07:14] DarkW0lf: Yeah, I know, but it seems like there should be a way to have the eject button automatically umount and eject. Isn't that what Windows, etc is doing? Plus people seem to be saying that this has been the default behavior since Dapper or Edgy or something. But for some reason it's not doing it with my DVD ROM. [07:14] nickrud, thx, precious advices, have you a good day [07:14] nickrud: thanks [07:14] lonejack, yw, see you about [07:14] I am trying to setup vnc...but I dont have System > Preferences > Remote Desktop ....but vino is installed in the synaptic [07:15] Jeah, no way to make the button eject the disk. Theoreticaly, the button could run a script to eject it, but havn't seen such. [07:15] Jeah: windows doesn't reall "mount" things as such [07:15] what is the file and where is it to set boot to 'noapic' please? [07:15] is there a cmmand line way to start that configuration? [07:15] the disc seems to just co-exist with windows :P [07:16] What's the command to make all files in my current directory readable/writable/removable? [07:16] you mean chmod [07:16] Thanks! [07:16] chmod 666 ... for everyone [07:16] chmod 666? === di[a]fic is now known as diafic [07:16] 777 [07:16] if you want x it would be 777 [07:17] tubetopbaby, right click the application menu, and select edit menus. Make sure remote desktop is enabled [07:17] nickrud: it is but it still does it [07:17] anybody know of any good dvd ripping software? [07:17] So I would type chmod 777 and then I can copy over any files in the directory? [07:17] NeT_DeMoN, oh, well, I ran across that while reading up on compiz and wondered ... [07:17] thats executable also.. 666.. read write... 777 r/w/x [07:17] nickrud: thanks any ways though [07:17] does anyone know? i really need to set boot to noapic [07:18] i dont see it at all [07:18] hmm [07:18] so what's up with this grub? [07:18] Didn't work. What's the equivalent of *.* in ubuntu? [07:18] schmicck: Well, I just tried it with my CD burner (which I don't use as much because it's crazy loud) and it ejected with the button. Seems to be limited to DVD drives, and I can't imagine that's the way it's supposed to be. [07:18] like "chmod 777 *.*" === casey_ is now known as _Casey_ [07:18] how do you check for bad sectors on a hard drive in Ubuntu? [07:18] DarkW0lf: Well, I just tried it with my CD burner (which I don't use as much because it's crazy loud) and it ejected with the button. Seems to be limited to DVD drives, and I can't imagine that's the way it's supposed to be. [07:18] do you want to do allthe files under a directory? [07:18] It'd be neat if Ubuntu had something like OpenSUSE's deltarpm. It saves a ton of bandwidth downloading updates. [07:18] nickrud: your the only one whos attempted to help me at all besides darkw0lf [07:18] tubetopbaby: Yes [07:19] tubetopbaby, try running vino-preferences in a terminal [07:19] it would be chmod -R 777 /mydir [07:19] Don't do that. (Recursive chmod) [07:19] Newbie question: I've downloaded a file castget-1.0.1.tar.gz - how do I install it? [07:19] the -R is recursive [07:19] nevermind, found it [07:19] chmod 777 mydir/* would chmod all files in mydir, but not recurively [07:19] hi [07:19] if i install an application with aptitude, and then remove that application wtih apptitude will it ALSO remove all the dependencies that it installed for that single application? [07:20] compwiz18: Hmm. That's tricky. A lot of modern drives detect bad sectors and try to remap accesses to them. You'd .. hm. You'd probably want a diagnostic utility from the drive manufacturer, if you can get it. Maybe from their site. [07:20] make sure you don't do it for / === ajmorris_|AFK is now known as ajmorris_ [07:20] any one know why everytime i try to download something it stops? [07:20] lucian_, that is aptitude's strength, although with apt-get auto-remove apt-get is getting closer [07:20] just a single folder with some files in it...can cause major issues with everybody...cause they can mess with ya [07:20] Is there a way to diff a local directory and a remote (ssh) directory? [07:20] afabian: ok. I've got a drive that randomly has IO errors, so I'm thinking thats what I want? I've checked the fs and stuff [07:21] lucian, yes, if there is no other app that depends on it.... use 'sudo apt-get autoclean' to clean stuff up after install/uninstall [07:21] nickrud: thanks... im installing a one-time use and i dont want all its dependencies remaining installed [07:21] What's the command to delete files? [07:21] Old_Gregg: rm [07:21] Old_Gregg: rm [07:21] i cant even download updates [07:21] it stops by itself [07:22] schmicck, autoclean clears out the download cache, not the installed packages [07:22] command for deleting an entire directory? [07:22] and thanks so far guys [07:22] :D [07:22] sudo apt-get install packagename NeT_DeMoN in the terminal and tell me what error it gives you [07:22] Old_Gregg: rm -rf dirname [07:22] Old_Gregg: man rm [07:22] Old_Gregg: q to quit man [07:22] Old_Gregg: read the rm man page first :) [07:23] Does anyone know why the eject button on my DVD ROM doesn't work in Ubuntu with a disc in when the one on my CD burner does? === adante_ is now known as adante [07:23] Old_Gregg: you could try rm -rf / if you feel game :P [07:23] nickrud: yep, I just mention it as cleaning stuff up after the install.. :P [07:23] Jeah, sounds like a hardware issue [07:23] Jeah: if the disk is mounted, the eject key will be locked in linux [07:23] Gar! What's the command to drop back one directory? I hit cd.. and nothing. so I just hit cd and I'm all the way back. :( [07:23] compwiz18: Hmm. I don't know, really. I/O errors are bad. Oddly, I don't know of any Linux programs, or even any modern Windows programs, that attempt to detect bad sectors on a drive. Probably because of the thing I just described, with the drives trying to remap them anyway. [07:23] DarkW0lf: Things like that are liable to get you kicked [07:23] cd.. [07:23] Old_Gregg: cd .. [07:23] mt [07:23] Old_Gregg: "cd -" [07:23] oh\ [07:23] thanks [07:24] !cli | Old_Gregg [07:24] Old_Gregg: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [07:24] bazhang: ok [07:24] afabian: the drive sounds fine, but it isn't working so I'm kinda at a dead end [07:24] Old_Gregg: cd .. don't forget the space between [07:24] Flannel: ok I'll stop :P [07:24] compwiz18: Hmm. Well, about all I can really think of is a little silly.. but, say, if you have a backup... [07:24] * nickrud thinks that's about the most zero tolerance thing there is [07:24] Okay, so Keep setting chmod to 777 for a directory and then when I try to extract over top of it, it keeps giving me errors [07:24] Boot into a Live CD environment, cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda or whatever the drive is... and then... [07:24] nickrud: It works in BIOS, Windows, and Ubuntu (without a disc in), so I'm a little hesitant to blame the hardware. I also posted in the forums, and several other people said they had the same problem with DVD ROM's. [07:24] cmp /dev/zero /dev/sda [07:25] NeT_DeMoN: packagename is not what you install; put the name of the package there--then tell me the error message in a pastebin [07:25] Wettoad: Yeah, but for my CD burner it automatically ejects (even with a mounted disc). [07:25] If you can't dump zeros to the block device and read them all back out, that's a pretty fair indication that the drive is bad. [07:25] afabian: and the weird part is it works for a while, and things like fsck have no issues, but mounting and using the fs kills it quickly (and yes, I have backups ... :) [07:25] Jeah, do they all talk about the same brand and or model? [07:25] I did rm -rf / in a damn small linux virtual box just for fun. I stopped it half way through and tried any command and it said "You don't exist. Go away..." [07:25] Jeah: check if its in /etc/fstab, one may have user permissions and the other not [07:25] compwiz18: You might also check the drive's SMART info. A lot of modern drives have that, too. But, it doesn't always tell you you have a problem. [07:26] Jeah: what about eject device from the burner app? is it k3b or what? [07:26] afabian: good idea, I'd forgotten about that === diafic is now known as di[a]fic [07:26] nickrud: That didn't come up. Maybe I should post and see if I can get responses to that. [07:26] how do you install a <...>.tar.gz application? [07:26] button should work, mine all do now under gnome [07:26] compwiz18: ext3 file system? [07:27] nickrud: The drive is Toshiba, I believe... [07:27] rkj: is it source code, or a binary? === _max is now known as max` [07:27] Is there a way to do a wildcard on rm -rf? Like, I want to remove all directories that start with CT. Do I go rm -rf CT* ? [07:27] I tried XFS once. That was a good time. Strange, strange things happened. Heh. [07:27] bazhang: what do you mean?? [07:27] what is the main difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu?? [07:27] afabian: jfs [07:27] Wettoad: I think it's a binary [07:27] NetLarIrvine: Ubuntu uses gnome, Xubuntu, XFCE [07:27] Old_Gregg: * is a wildcard ? is a wildcard, there are lots of them [07:27] bazhang: oh, never mind, i get what you mean now [07:27] Old_Gregg: you can even use the output of ther commands [07:27] So it is just the interface?? [07:27] compwiz18: Hmm. Well, I can't say much about jfs, but my XFS experience taught me to... expect weird things from high-end file systems on my lowly desktop machine. [07:27] Wettoad: /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 [07:27] /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 [07:27] NetLarIrvine: That is Ubuntu and Xubuntu the flavors, they are both flavors of Ubuntu (the distro) [07:28] NeT_DeMoN: open up the terminal [07:28] rkj: extract it first with 'tar xvf ' the extracted files should have a README with instructions. [07:28] bazhang: [07:28] E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) [07:28] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [07:28] Still the same Linux underneath Flannel? [07:28] I just stick to ext3 these days. [07:28] NetLarIrvine: Yes. They both are the same except for the GUI they come default with. They use the same repos, and you can actualy turn one into the other by just adding/removing packages. [07:28] Jeah: has one of them been mounted by root [07:28] NetLarIrvine: Identical [07:28] everytime i try to start mysql, i get an error about "debian-maint-sys" not having the right PW. so i went in and changed the password to match the one in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf, but still doesn't work...any clue what's up? [07:28] afabian: this drive has always been funny (its a seagate freeagent external drive w/ usb) but its usually worked ok [07:28] bazhang: Yeah, I can eject from the terminal, but I'd love to get the button working, and can't imagine it would be designed to work automatically for everything BUT dvd rom's. [07:28] NeT_DeMoN: you need to check the !aptfix command [07:29] bazhang: ok [07:29] NeT_DeMoN: Close Synaptic [07:29] I have an older machine that I want to set up as file/web server, but still want the gui interface [07:29] Jeah: you are burning from the command line? [07:29] compwiz18: any recent configuration changes that might've coincided with the new errors? [07:29] I was thinking of installing Kubuntu but I realised it uses Kde and I stopped using that a while ago in favour of Gnome [07:29] NetLarIrvine: You could use xubuntu, or you could install some other WM, like fluxbox, which is even more lightweight [07:29] afabian: nope, the only thing being it was recently in an airplane.... [07:30] Wettoad: Interesting question. I'm not sure. They're both automounted, but the DVD drive had the disc in from startup, whereas the burner had the disc inserted later. Would that make a difference? [07:30] Which is better? [07:30] afabian: but I've never had issues with that before [07:30] grrr [07:30] Old_Gregg: you can also download mc, it does lots of file management things [07:30] !aptfix | NeT_DeMoN [07:30] NeT_DeMoN: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » [07:30] <_Casey_> I have a built-in "Chicony USB 2.0 Camera" as it is called, how do i make it work. [07:30] bazhang: The burner is actually the one that's working right. The DVD ROM is the one that won't eject for whatever reason. [07:30] compwiz18: Hmm. Well, one other idea that comes to mind.. and, a manufacturer's utility disk can usually do this... you could .. ah, yes. [07:30] Jeah: you can eject it as root and then try again [07:30] bazhang: O_o thats the weirdest command ive ever seen [07:30] NetLarIrvine: they all suit different purposes. One of the nice (and sometimes worse) things about FOSS is usually nothing is "best" they just all serve different needs. [07:31] compwiz18: This is probably what you will want to do. Use the manufacturer's utility disk to do a low-level reformat of the drive. I'm not exactly sure what it is, but it's below the filesystem level. [07:31] macogw: haha--that is nothing compared to kde4broken [07:31] Wettoad: actually, I don't have to sudo to eject it, so maybe that indicates it's not the problem. but it's definitely worth trying. One sec. [07:31] NetLarIrvine: fluxbox, for instance, is more light weight, but you lose some prettiness and some functionality, which you may or may not want [07:31] compwiz18: if any process is designed to detect / correct physical read/write errors, that process will do it. It might flag some sectors as bad. [07:31] I have always liked Ubuntu, they seem more user friendly [07:31] what graphix cards do you people recommend [07:31] Thanks again for your help everyone. I'm gonna go check it and make sure it worked. :D [07:31] * nickrud goes off to see what fuser is doing, he just deleted that lock [07:31] <_Casey_> get an nvidia [07:31] <_Casey_> 880 GTX [07:31] <_Casey_> 8800* [07:31] bazhang: it looks like you're telling the terminal "f whatever user has locked it. i want it!" [07:31] cre8torx: I prefer nvidia, because we do a lot of multithreaded opengl [07:32] afabian: ok. The only problem is it has more data on it then the other drives I have, but thats what rm is for... :) [07:32] I have 256 mg RAM on a 500 mgz machine [07:32] Stay away from ATI.. Nvidia stuff is great.. (I got an ATI.. sniff... ) [07:32] <_Casey_> NVIDIA 8800 GTX is the top of the line PCI-e graphics card [07:32] compwiz18: Yeah. I know how it is. I was just converting an external USB harddrive from NTFS to ext3 today. Ooof. [07:32] Oh hey, what do you guys suggest for a top of the line sound card that has Linux 32-bit support? [07:32] <_Casey_> if your looking for AGP try the 7900 i think [07:32] Remastersys is a wonderful OS backup program for *buntus, but is there an alternative that doesn't use casper & ubiquity on the backup cd? [07:32] macogw: yeah, it is kinda funny [07:32] That should be enough for Xubuntu right Flannel? [07:32] Wettoad: Dang, that didnt' help. I thought we were onto something there. [07:32] schmicck, we need a club. One everyone fights to get out of [07:32] and still maintain livecd [07:32] Wettoad: i also recommend nvidia if you want very nice graphics. intel and older ati cards, like the radeon 9250 have very good support and open source drivers though [07:33] what the hell am I supposed to do now since Ubuntu screwed up it's edgy -> feisty upgrade!? [07:33] afabian: yeah, and I've been wanting to switch it to ext3 anyway, jfs is weird sometimes [07:33] <_Casey_> pirate [07:33] nickrud: .. yea man. [07:33] <_Casey_> mine did too [07:33] <_Casey_> reformat [07:33] I cannot bloody believe Ubuntu [07:33] macogw: yeah that is the basic choice, open source happy conscience, or good 3D support with multithreaded GL [07:33] grr [07:33] <_Casey_> I have a built-in "Chicony USB 2.0 Camera" as it is called, how do i make it work. [07:33] bazhang: ok, if i download through the terminal, do i need to take out the sace on the program names? [07:33] piratepenguin: ahoy :P [07:34] lol steve [07:34] piratepenguin: Well, this might not be super helpful, but there will be an update from Edgy to Hardy since they're both the LTS releases, right? [07:34] Wettoad: well i dont need multithreaded GL. if it has good enough 3D and GL to handle Compiz and Frets on Fire, it's good enough for me [07:34] NeT_DeMoN: can you give an example? there should be a dash between the parts of a name if that is what you mean [07:34] Jeah: but that will be in like... [07:34] how long? [07:34] Jeah: dapper to hardy, edgy wasnt lts afaik [07:34] Should be in April. [07:34] Jeah: sigh.. [07:35] Oh, whoops. [07:35] macogw: whats ur budget? [07:35] Maybe it was Dapper. [07:35] so how do install that grub into the MBR? [07:35] yes hardy is scheduled for april [07:35] Jeah: actually, I'm not too sure about the code names.. or the version nums.. lol.. I want the latest, I HAD the 2nd-latest (installed in June) [07:35] bazhang: like for the "wireless assistant" program [07:35] !lts [07:35] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. [07:35] well he could at least tell the lts versions [07:35] !dapper [07:35] Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details. [07:35] piratepenguin: probably dapper. [07:35] :) [07:35] NeT_DeMoN: sudo apt-get install package-name [07:35] compwiz18: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting#Disk_Reinitialization Apparently, low-level formatting is a concept in the right ball-park. [07:35] Stevethepirate: im not shopping. i use intel graphics on my laptop, and im getting a radeon 9000 from a friend to replace my mom's dying intel graphics [07:35] <_Casey_> !webcam [07:35] Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras [07:36] what i miss for workstations in companys (where i think to use ubuntu) is a easy to use ldap authentication... [07:36] Which radeon 9000? [07:36] what do you do about a frozen application? No close is available when right clicking.... ctrl+alt+del doesnt do anything (obviously) [07:36] !ldap_is_the_frikken_devil [07:36] moin [07:36] can I not just get synaptic to install all the failed installations (they didn't actually fail I think, one simply did) and upgrade the failed upgrades? [07:36] <_Casey_> if the webcam is built-in to the laptop how do you get it installed? [07:36] piratepenguin: rather spam "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" [07:36] Low level Format : Hard format done at factory. Defines disk geometry. High level format actualy just "checks" if the LLF is OK. [07:37] piratepenguin: just try to sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade from the terminal again [07:37] bazhang: ok, im downloading the one of the updates through my terminal, do i have to download them one by one?? [07:37] _Casey_: depending on your kernel it probably already is installed, that is if the webcam is supported [07:37] _Casey_: jsut google for it [07:37] NeT_DeMoN: did you follow the aptfix instructions? [07:37] bazhang: that doesn't go for the new installs, apparently. it's got nothing [07:37] just installed ubuntu-server and it always boots me into grub shell [07:37] <_Casey_> its a chicony usb 2.0, i havnt found anything [07:38] <_Casey_> ive been searching for weeks [07:38] when i try to run grub-install it says: The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. [07:38] bazhang: i must have been in another tab, let me scroll up [07:38] any clues? [07:38] <_Casey_> how do i find the device-id of it [07:38] or could I reinstall ubuntu-desktop and ALL its dependencies? [07:38] atpa8a: what wwas the root file system? [07:38] ext3 [07:38] Anybody else have any ideas why the eject button on my Toshiba DVD ROM wouldn't work with a disc in while the eject button on my CD burner does? (I think I've done a pretty thorough job ruling out a hardware problem.) [07:38] atpa8a: grub doesn't like xfs sometimes [07:39] this is the most evil thing my computer has done to me since Windows FFS! [07:39] I have been running ubuntu for about 3 weeks now, its been running great, with no problems whatsoever, but now, ubuntu comes up for about 3-5 min and the interface and window manager crash, i have to hold the power button down to restart.. i cant figure out whats doing it, i get no error messages, and no warning, its just like everything stops... [07:39] <_Casey_> ok whats video4linux [07:39] <_Casey_> its under capablities for my device [07:40] BloodyScum: did you check /var/crash ? [07:40] piratepenguin: no error messages from the terminal? there was a problem with one of the security servers timing out earlier [07:40] Hey guys, im looking to have an ubuntu machine connected to my tv via the vga port, how would I remote into the machine to control the display, to play a movie for instance. [07:40] no [07:40] BloodyScum, you can switch into the console? [07:40] BloodyScum, or was it a complete freeze? [07:40] afabian: thanks for your help! one more question, though: I'm running badblocks right now, and it found a couple. is there a way to tell it not to use those, or should it do it automatically or something? [07:40] mikefoo1: use LIRC [07:41] i dont know how to switch into console other than open the term program [07:41] BloodyScum, I had a similar thing and it was a loose heatsink on the cpu letting things get hot [07:41] thank you for ubuntu, i feel like i have come home [07:41] no, i checked the heatsync [07:41] k [07:41] bazhang: hmm there's a 'apt-get -qq update' command running according to ps.. [07:41] _Casey_: v4l is a common API to use cameras and video devices [07:41] wait its finished [07:41] bazhang: i did what you had the bot tell me, i tried to do the other commands my terminal tells me but it wont let me [07:42] Anybody else have any ideas why the eject button on my Toshiba DVD ROM wouldn't work with a disc in while the eject button on my CD burner does? (I think I've done a pretty thorough job ruling out a hardware problem.) [07:42] schmicck: hmm maybe you read wrong? thats not going to help me.. [07:42] or how is it...? [07:42] how do i switch to the console? [07:42] _Casey_: if its a device that supports mpeg you can just run cat /dev/CAMERANAME > test.mpeg [07:42] _Casey_: type 'dmesg | grep video' see if there is any line mentioning your cam. [07:42] NeT_DeMoN: there were two commands--did you do them both? the sudo dpkg --configure -a ? [07:42] bazhang: no errors [07:43] Jeah: your user may not have permissions for the latter, try chmodding the /dev/xxxx device, or adding your user to the cdrom group and logging out and back in [07:43] bazhang: oh, it just said type dpkg [07:43] hello all [07:43] piratepenguin: update and then try to upgrade again oh ok--then you are up to date [07:43] anyone have any suggestions on how to achieve this? http://www.zimmertech.com/images/kubuntu_full.jpg [07:43] BloodyScum, ctrl-alt-f2 - alt-f7 to get back [07:43] NeT_DeMoN: oy you really need to learn to scroll up :] [07:44] bazhang: Ive finished the install :) [07:44] compwiz18: hm. interesting. I hadn't heard of this badblocks program. Anyway... I was just looking at the man page, and it recommends running it with mke2fs or e2fsck... so, my *guess* is that badblocks doesn't do anything but identify bad blocks, and you need these other utilities to modify the filesystem so that the bad blocks are avoided. [07:44] bazhang: is that right? fuck, thats not so bad then! *gets installing stuff he needs to get again* [07:44] bazhang: sorry, im like doing 12 things at once [07:44] ere4si thx [07:44] !language | piratepenguin [07:44] piratepenguin: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [07:44] k [07:44] NeT_DeMoN: what about 13 things at once? [07:44] compwiz18: I'd try e2fsck -c rather than invoking badblocks directly. [07:44] piratepenguin: nice, but please watch the language [07:45] I am trying to setup a wireless network at my home, between a ubuntu and vista laptops, I am on ubuntu laptop and will create the wireless network, vista laptop will connect to it, I followed this tutorial and followed the manual instructions, but I am only able to achieve a local only wireless network, vista cannot access the internet [07:45] afabian: ok [07:45] Stevethepirate: lol [07:45] NeT_DeMoN: if you want help, then you need to pay attention :} [07:45] bazhang: ok, i closed the other apps [07:45] bazhang: whoops, sorry i let that slip.. well thanks for the help anyhow [07:45] no worries [07:45] how do i get a famserver? [07:46] MasterShrek: There's only one account on the system, and it's in the admin group, obviously. Could that still be the problem? [07:46] schmicck there is one crash report for wine but i looked at the date in the file, and its 3 days ago, thats the only file in /var/crash [07:46] bazhang: ok, when i dod that command you gae me, it just gave me a new command line and didnt say anything [07:46] Jeah: put it in the cdrom group as well [07:46] did^^ [07:46] okay okay.... THIS! http://cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/compiz3.jpg [07:46] screen is a wonderful program [07:46] Jeah: [07:46] Jeah: and theres actually many accounts on the system, you just dont know about them :) [07:46] how do i get a famserver??? [07:46] Jeah: look at /proc/sys/dev/cdrom [07:47] NeT_DeMoN: both commands? [07:47] Jeah: there is a lock file which you can probably echo 0 or 1 to [07:47] #ubuntu-ru [07:47] bazhang: scrolling up, that was two commands? [07:47] BloodyScum: take a look in /var/log/syslog [07:47] <_Casey_> my cam says "Cannot connect to video device /dev/video0" [07:47] <_Casey_> do i need to mount it [07:48] _Casey_: only file systems are mounted [07:48] _Casey_: and a camera is ot a filesystem [07:48] <_Casey_> well hold on [07:48] Jeah: did you see the message above? [07:48] can anyone suggest to me a good irc client for linux? [07:49] <_Casey_> it shows up as a video device for video4linux under Device Manager [07:49] Wettoad: yeah, sorry, checking out MasterShrek's suggestion real quck [07:49] konversation [07:49] huey: irssi [07:49] huey: I live xchat [07:49] k [07:49] xchat is pretty good [07:49] i'm using bitchx with screen right now [07:49] huey, I second xchat [07:49] wtf?... the drive ids jump on each reboot [07:49] <_Casey_> konversation [07:49] anyone know how to get a login on a windows/mac box into my ubuntu over the internet using ssh... a new session with the gnome login, gdm and everything [07:49] <_Casey_> wettoad [07:49] haha xchat it is :) thanks all [07:49] bazhang: ok, i dont understand a thing this says [07:49] <_Casey_> the cam is built in and supposedly has drivers already installed [07:49] how do i get a famserver??? [07:49] <_Casey_> is there a way to get the cam on video0 [07:50] good luck [07:50] how do i get a famserver??? [07:50] king: what's a famserver? [07:50] _Casey_: if the drivers are there then udev should have creted the device for you... which programs like qcam can use [07:50] schmicck says there is no such directory [07:50] MasterShrek: It doesn't look like root iis even in a cdrom group, from System->Administration->Users and Groups -> Manage Groups. But my user does have "Use CD-ROM drives" enabled in Properties->User Privileges. [07:51] BloodyScum: that's a file.. not a directory [07:51] can anyone help me Copy a DVD using ubuntu? [07:51] its home server [07:51] Wettoad: Ok, yeah, I see it's there. How do I read what it's currently set to? And how do I change it? [07:51] Jeah: root does not have to be explicityly added to groups [07:51] schmicck lol, ok oops [07:51] k9copy kr00l [07:51] Jeah: cat the lock file in a terminal [07:51] BloodyScum: type 'less /var/log/syslog' [07:51] Jeah: well root can do all, so that shouldnt matter, i would add the user to the group anyway, i dont know exactly if that gnome option to "Use CD-ROM Drives" is going to work for both or not [07:51] Wettoad: yeah, but I dont' even see a cdrom group anywyere. [07:51] king: a brand - or format? [07:51] and to change the values you echo "1" > lock [07:51] or echo "0" > lock [07:51] bazhang: I have that now but i don't know how to use it. I don't see how to get the dvd selected so i can copy/burn [07:52] !dvd [07:52] For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs [07:52] Wettoad: how do I know which drive that's for? Or would it apply to all "CD" drives? [07:52] Wettoad: meaning optical drives, I guess. [07:52] Jeah: it may have 2 listings, I only have one drive, so i am not sure of the format for 2 [07:53] Can anyone help me configure k9copy? [07:53] * schmicck thinks he's never seen this type of colaboration on a M$ channel.. lol [07:53] <_Casey_> wettoad [07:53] Jeah: so when you "cat" it waht does it say? [07:53] hey. i want to backup all my system and do a mirror copy of the whole ubuntu , so in case of crash i will able to make a restore to the good point. i did ghost 4 linux but its screwed my system ... i wonder if i can just do a "tar" of / and then apply it on system crash and it will do the work? [07:53] Wettoad: "1" [07:53] <_Casey_> xawtv turns on my cam for like 1 second then turns it off, step in the right direction [07:53] _Casey_: yes [07:53] what are some chat programs for ubuntu? [07:53] Jeah: that means it locks [07:53] using debmirror results in: "Failed to download files (51 errors)!" using the rsync protocol and various mirrors, and several reruns? [07:53] !sfv [07:53] Sorry, I don't know anything about sfv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [07:53] _Casey_: excelent!.. [07:54] Jeah: as root: echo "0" > /proc/sys/dev/cdrom [07:54] i hate chatzilla@@!!! [07:54] <_Casey_> but thats all it does [07:54] Wettoad: /lock, right? [07:54] Thunderbird looks like it is fading into oblivion [07:54] sad [07:54] _Casey_: xawtv is really meant for TV devices and not web cams [07:54] I like it [07:54] help?:) [07:55] lumpy^: remastersys is a third-party app that back's up your current install to a live cd with the option to re-install at a later point.. but its not guarenteed to work.. im actually backing up mine with it right now [07:55] I saw that too [07:55] <_Casey_> i tried camorama and it does nothing [07:55] _Casey_: whatever gnomemeeting is now called should work, its like netmeeting for gnome, but got renamed [07:55] lumpy^: what's you question [07:55] <_Casey_> lemme look [07:55] my cam do not work it did be for on kopet [07:55] http://linuxappfinder.com/blog/ripping_dvds_to_mpeg4_with_k9copy kr00l [07:55] hey. i want to backup all my system and do a mirror copy of the whole ubuntu , so in case of crash i will able to make a restore to the good point. i did ghost 4 linux but its screwed my system ... i wonder if i can just do a "tar" of / and then apply it on system crash and it will do the work? [07:55] bazhang: the commands the terminal gave me wont work [07:55] Jeah: correct [07:55] lumpy^: i just answered that [07:55] Dec 19 02:49:07 steven-ub kernel: [ 44.278228] sdd: rw=0, want=2024051, limit=2014079 [07:55] Dec 19 02:49:07 steven-ub kernel: [ 44.278230] attempt to access beyond end of device [07:55] no it says I cannot find the Magick convert program. [07:55] convert is required to render the Latex formulas. [07:55] Please go to www.imagemagick.org or to your distribution site and get the right package. === |rly| is now known as dhude [07:55] whats that mean in syslog? [07:55] NeT_DeMoN: you still here? [07:56] bazhang: yeah [07:56] umm [07:56] lumpy^: try dd. Or something like partimage or mondo archive [07:56] there is somthing that work? [07:56] NeT_DeMoN: try this: [07:56] Wettoad: "bash: lock: Permission denied" even when I sudo'd it. Huh? [07:56] they do some nice compression [07:56] Isn't there some easy way to restrict a user to just one folder? Like there home? [07:56] i want to copy the image to DVD [07:56] though tar shoujld work [07:56] lumpy^: check out the apps - mindi & mondo [07:56] !aptfix | NeT_DeMoN [07:56] NeT_DeMoN: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » [07:56] mondo archivce is pretty good [07:56] bazhang: just trying to figure out this jiberish :P [07:56] Jeah: su to root [07:56] lumpy^: It's a little more complicated than that. Well, depending on how you look at it. I always have trouble with it. So, tar is the right kind of tool for doing such a thing... but, you have to be careful to use the right switches, like preserving ownership (-p). And, you also .. hm. See, this is where it gets tricky. I lost track around the udev days. I'm not sure what you should do about /dev. You would want to e [07:56] xclude /proc. And then, you need to save your partition table, and make sure you have a way to restore the boot sector. tar can back up the data, but... there are just more steps and a lot of gotchas. :/ [07:56] bazhang: i did [07:56] BloodyScum: something tried to write past the end of you scsi disk d [07:57] anyone know how to get a login on a windows/mac box into my ubuntu over the internet using ssh... a new session with the gnome login, gdm and everything....the vnc stuff, I cant get to work...it has me add a file in xinetd.d/ called vnc....then it has me go to change a file called initd.d/xinetd....but no such puppy!!! [07:57] NeT_DeMoN: sudo etc etc, then sudo etc etc [07:57] Jeah: then do it [07:57] <_Casey_> i dont see it [07:57] bazhang: ahhh, ok [07:57] NeT_DeMoN: did them both? [07:57] Jeah: echo "0" > /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/lock [07:57] why is it i cant run office 2003 using wine, it runs but it prompts that it is not installed for the current user [07:57] NeT_DeMoN: still with me? [07:58] tubetopbaby: do you want to log from windows to linux? [07:58] what program do a image copy of my hd directly to DVD ? [07:58] lumpy^: what size hdd? [07:58] Wettoad: Uh, I can't su? "su: Authentication failure"? Can one not su in Ubuntu? and why wouldn't sudo work? [07:58] BloodyScum: there is something wrong with your scsi drive.. might be a bad partition geometry... [07:58] lumpy^: you can dd it, if you're using xfs you can xfs dump a disk image [07:58] <_Casey_> ekiga? [07:58] Jeah: sorry i use debian [07:58] yeah..my ubuntu box is in the closet on the other side of the house.... LOL.....I am having to stand infront of it...my feet hurt ;( [07:58] Jeah: try sudo [07:58] Wettoad: you can't sudo? [07:59] Jeah: i don't like sudo [07:59] bazhang: yeah [07:59] rjohn: sorry that was for you, I don't like sudo [07:59] you can get arond the ubuntu non root situation with sudo passwd for root [07:59] bazhang: my computer wont let me copy now [07:59] wtf [07:59] how do u ues root? [07:59] NeT_DeMoN: you did both those commands? [07:59] king: by using sudo [07:59] afabian: I'm a little late to this party, but is there a way to make a dd image and break it up at say 4.6gb pieces and burn it to dvd's? Would dd preserve permissions and such, and partition tables and boot sectors? [07:59] <|Dylan|> Jeah: by default there is no root password set, so su fails. i dont know why your sudo would not work but to set a root password (NOT recommended) use `sudo passwd root` or to access su on an individual basis use `sudo su -` to get to a root prompt [07:59] !sudo | king [07:59] king: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. [07:59] im about to just throw this piece of shit out the window [07:59] excuse my language please [08:00] bazhang: yeah [08:00] NeT_DeMoN: do you have permissions to the destination? [08:00] no [08:00] Jeah: any luck? [08:00] Wettoad: "sudo echo "0" > /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/lock" and I got "bash: /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/lock: Permission denied" again... [08:00] i had a little trouble out of the partition manager when installing to begin with.. is there any way to fix my partitions? i have a windows partition, a filesystem partition, and a swap partition.. [08:00] MasterShrek: yes, im admin [08:00] rjohn: yes...my ubuntu box is on the other side of the house in a closet...I have to stand in front of it now....ouch my feet hurt :) [08:00] NeT_DeMoN: now try installing stuff using either the command line or synaptic [08:00] Wettoad: I have no idea how/why it would deny a sudo command... [08:00] Jeah: hemm... that is the problem i suspect [08:00] NeT_DeMoN: is it on a different mounted medium, that is mounted read-only? [08:00] Jeah: I agree wtih |Dylan| that root not recommended, but if you are learning, I think it's good and argulably recommended. [08:00] But it can develop bad habits. [08:00] bazhang: ok [08:01] hi, i am trying to upgrade using the Gutsy cd. First everything went smoothly, it detected my cd when i put it in as a source to update from. then it just crashed, posting an error. now when i put in the cd it wont do anything [08:01] <|Dylan|> Morning all. I have a question regarding disk partitioning. I have the following partitions: primary NTFS, 2xExtended NTFS, linux-swap, primary ext3, linux-swap (which i just made) and about 40GB on which I'm trying to create a primary ext3 to install Kubuntu (currently running Ubuntu on the first ext3). Both Kubuntu's installer and GParted report that there are already 4 primary partitions - they both say I can't create more than [08:01] etc/sudoers will tell you who has sudo rights. It's a pretty readabl efile [08:01] |Dylan|: Thanks. [08:01] rjohn: I can sudo everything else... [08:01] <|Dylan|> Jeah: no problem, hope it helps [08:01] rjohn, this is my only user... [08:01] |Dylan|: you can't, for historical reasons. You need to crate Exteneded partition [08:02] WorkingOnWis1: Hm. well, if you have the space to put the file somewhere, you can use "split" on it. And... dd has the switches so that you *could* do just what you're saying, if you figure out the magic numbers. [08:02] BloodyScum: I fixed a bad partition on a windows box with partition magic... you might want to try that. [08:02] Jeah: sudo "echo \"0\" > lock" [08:02] rjohn: i found this...but it doesnt work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC [08:02] i dont know how 2 get in 2 root and whats the pass for root? [08:02] tubetopbaby: what did you find that didn't work, [08:02] do i need to install on debian PARTIMAGE or i just need to download the rescue cd and do the image? [08:02] <|Dylan|> rjohn: i know theres a hard limit of 4, its just frustrating because i dont actually have 4 primaries, i have 2 and 2 extended [08:02] this part doesnt work: Step 2 [08:02] king: root is disabled by default [08:02] Create the following file /etc/xinetd.d/vnc [08:02] king: root is disabled by default.. enable it with 'sudo passwd root' [08:02] $> sudo pico /etc/xinetd.d/vnc [08:02] bazhang: dude thanks, it works!!!!!! :D [08:02] service vnc [08:02] Wettoad: "sudo: echo "0" > lock: command not found" [08:02] { [08:02] disable = no [08:02] socket_type = stream [08:02] afabian: what are the magic numbers? [08:02] protocol = tcp [08:02] wait = no [08:03] user = nobody [08:03] king: sudo -i -u root [08:03] server = /usr/bin/Xvnc [08:03] |Dylan|: sorry, I missed that. hmmmm, dunno [08:03] server_args = -inetd :1 -query localhost -broadcast -once -fp /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/ -securitytypes=none -desktop=vnc://MyDesktop/ [08:03] WorkingOnWis1: dd isn't a very "smart" utility. It doesn't know anything about your filesystems, or boot sectors. It preserves them, and ... if you're not "careful", it'll also faithfully save the empty space on your disk. It'd probably be easier to dig up some utility designed to do what you want to do, though I don't know what they would be. [08:03] } [08:03] * [08:03] we don't have xinetd.d setup in init.d [08:03] <_Casey_> hey i got my webcam working on ekiga [08:03] |Dylan|, you only need one swap - kubuntu will use the one for ubuntu - you can't boot both at once :) [08:03] so no ideas? [08:03] NeT_DeMoN: remember to install stuff mostly from the repos in the future and you should be fine :} enjoy! [08:03] Well done _Casey_ [08:03] bazhang: thanks man, everything will download now, hell yeah :) [08:04] Anyone using wpa supplicant successfully. does it now support wpa1 [08:04] <_Casey_> but i want my webcam to work with the stickam.com services as well [08:04] wpa2 I meant === Neskaya is now known as hugglehug-gone [08:04] anyone used partimage? [08:04] <_Casey_> none of my friends use ekiga [08:04] rjohn: if your card supports it yes [08:04] lumpy^: YES, PARTIMAGE IS GOOD [08:04] Jeah: this works for me [08:04] <|Dylan|> ere4si: if ubuntu crashes for some reason, or kubuntu for that matter, there will be junk left over and ill have to reboot to that before i can reboot to the other, or at least thats my understanding [08:04] bazhang: THANKS [08:04] Jeah: sudo echo "1" > lock [08:04] how can I get a readout of basic display settings (resolution, refresh rate, bit depth, etc.) via terminal? [08:04] afabian: i think I like dd for that very reason..it will do exactly what I ask, and not try to outsmart me :) [08:04] <|Dylan|> ere4si: also, that wont solve the problem :-/ [08:05] does the latest ubuntu have glibc 2.4? [08:05] Jeah: sorry that was a lie [08:05] !info glibc [08:05] Package glibc does not exist in gutsy [08:05] Wettoad: haha [08:05] !find glibc [08:05] felipec: do you mean 7.10 [08:05] Found: libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, glibc-doc, libc6, libc6-pic [08:05] WorkingOnWis1: Well, tar is a venerable unix utility. it's designed to do these sorts of backups. But, yeah, it *is* a little tricky. I always liked BSD's dump. There's an ext3 dump.... [08:05] Jeah: sudo with some editor and edit the file, change the 1 to a zero and save it [08:06] !info libc6 [08:06] libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.6.1-1ubuntu10 (gutsy), package size 4085 kB, installed size 10120 kB [08:06] It's just a *tad* more intelligent than dd, but less so than tar -- it preserves your ext3 filesystem exactly, working below the file level and directly at the filesystem level. [08:06] Jeah: the problem with sudo is the redirect stdout to a file doesn't work and I am not familar with the workings of sudo well enough to know what to do [08:06] emacs or vi....................just kidding :) [08:06] rjohn: this part of the guide doesnt work for 7.10 Step 2: Create the following file /etc/xinetd.d/vnc and Step 4 Stop and restart Xinetd $> sudo /etc/init.d/xinetd restart since we dont have Xinetd setup in initd.d [08:06] Wettoad: I can't see any contents to the file in an editor. [08:06] Jeah: don't worry about that [08:06] why is it i cant run office 2003 using wine, it runs but it prompts that it is not installed for the current user [08:07] Jeah: type 0 then save it and ext [08:07] the cat it [08:07] <_Casey_> what would be a way to get my webcam working with the stickam.com services, which use flash, it detects my cam but doesnt show it [08:07] rjohn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC here is the guide [08:07] WorkingOnWis1: After that, your partition table and MBR are in the first 512 bytes of the disk. So, if you're using a filesystem that supports it, a "dump" utility is really better than a dd. But, dd ... yeah, it DOES work, if you have jobs of space. But all of the empty space on your disk looks just like good data to dd, and that can be a lot of overhead for a not very full partition. [08:08] <_Casey_> !webcam [08:08] Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras [08:08] jobs? gobs. [08:08] Excuse me, when i tried to install a .rpm package it told me to read the "readme.debian" anyone know where i can find it? [08:08] "Could not save the file /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/lock. Unexpected error: Invalid parameters" [08:08] why is my processor much slower with linux? [08:08] Wettoad: "Could not save the file /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/lock. Unexpected error: Invalid parameters" [08:09] Wettoad: is it actually a text file or just a bit or something? [08:09] Jeah: swell, this is a joke "you should use a real os like debian, not some cheap imitation" [08:09] <|Dylan|> thank you, everyone who helped, and ty ere4si, i didnt realize swap was primary *reboots with tail between legs* [08:09] Jeah: the proc filessytem is actually variables in tke running kernel === GazzaK is now known as Gary [08:09] tubetopbaby: I looked at the link. I have successful VNC form Windows to Linux. I'm afraid I can't help [08:09] Jeah: you are actually modifiying a driver [08:09] Wettoad: Haha. [08:10] OK I am out [08:10] Wettoad: If stuff like this stumps me so bad, I don't even want to try something more advanced :) [08:10] Jeah: you need to find a way to get a0 in that file [08:10] Wettoad: Debian's politicis make the UN look simple :) Solid for sure. But so slow to get out [08:10] Wettoad: Ok, well thanks for all the help. If I do manage to change it, will it probably only change the behavior for hte session or will it persist? [08:10] Jeah: i would recommend setting up the root user, it may not be the ubuntu way but it is the unix way, then su to root and echo a 0 [08:10] rjohn: how does yours work, which vncserver did you use? [08:10] Murdock is very irritated at the whole Debian direction [08:10] Jeah: it will last unitl reboot [08:11] Isn't there some easy way to restrict a user to just one folder? Like there /home? [08:11] Wettoad: Is there something I can change that will persist? Somewhere that that lock variable is being generated? [08:11] tubetopbaby: the native server with Kubuntu 6.06. vncd I think [08:11] rjohn: yeah i know it has its problems, thats why i precluded that with this is a joke as not to incite flame [08:11] Wettoad: sorry, short answer is fine. I appreciate the help and don't want to hold you up. [08:11] Jeah: you can make an /etc/init.d/ startup script that echos a 0 there [08:11] hi, i am trying to upgrade using the Gutsy cd. First everything went smoothly, it detected my cd when i put it in as a source to update from. then it just crashed, posting an error. now when i put in the cd it wont do anything [08:11] rjohn: does it do sessions or do you have to be logged out? [08:11] Wettoad: ya, but the real question is...emacs or vi....:) just kidding [08:12] riaal: well they wouldnt be able to do anything then, the binarys (commands) that they can run are in /bin and /usr/bin and stuff [08:12] Wettoad: Ok, well thanks. have a good night or day or whatever it is wherever you are. [08:12] I'm getting massive tearing in flash plugin 9.0.115, horrible compared to windows, any know what to do? [08:12] night [08:12] riaal: they dont have write access to anything outside their home directory, unless they have sudo or your explicitly change permissions [08:12] isnt the hardware channel ##hardware?? [08:12] tears massively regardless of compiz is on or not [08:12] tubetopbaby: I have to be logged in on the remote box. As such, ihave moved to X forwarding via ssh -X [08:12] I don't always want remote control, often just run one app in window [08:12] MasterShrek: I know, but they still can poke around [08:12] ##hardware ????^^ [08:13] iam un a ubuntu 7.10 need 2 get in to root and need 2 do it with out sudo [08:13] tubetopbaby: my VNC client is real vnc [08:13] can anyone help me with k9copy? [08:14] king: sudo -s root [08:14] Anyone ever had success with cygwin and Cyg/X. I want to run Gvim in my cygwin [08:14] http://linuxappfinder.com/blog/ripping_dvds_to_mpeg4_with_k9copy kr00l [08:14] Sorry, that is off topic [08:14] ya how 2 get in it === joerlend__ is now known as XiXaQ [08:14] is there a way to change .php files to .jpg files?? [08:14] hi, i am trying to upgrade using the Gutsy cd. First everything went smoothly, it detected my cd when i put it in as a source to update from. then it just crashed, posting an error. now when i put in the cd it wont do anything [08:15] king: you don't know the passwords? [08:15] NeT_DeMoN: thats illogical... [08:15] What's best way to get skype running without dependency hell? apt package from skype. [08:15] not for root or how 2 get in [08:15] staykovmarin: is upgrade absolutely essential [08:15] rjohn: that's in medibuntu isn't it? [08:16] Can you save off dpkg list, home directory, etc. and reinstall\ [08:16] NeT_DeMoN: .jpg is a graphics format. .php is usually filled with text. So, you could open the php file in a text editor, take a screenshot, and then... well, I don't think this is what you mean to ask. ;) [08:16] ere4si: hmmm, I'll check. Is that a distro? [08:16] well. normally the .jpg part is stored outside of .php [08:16] rjohn: no. but i would really like to update it, since i want to use xmms2 with last.fm scrobbler. why? [08:16] hi all [08:16] its ubuntu [08:16] !medibuntu [08:16] medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [08:16] and its normally linked. [08:16] king: type 'sudo passwd root' then type YOUR password... then follow instructions on setting a root password. [08:16] May I ask you to help me? [08:16] afabian: i have a photo that is .php if thats what you mean [08:17] ask away Belisarivs [08:17] thanks to the bot. yes, that's the type of stuff the linux Mint has included. Linux mint is pretty nice, although a little on the ehtical OSS edge [08:17] so i got 2 log out? 2 do it? [08:17] Ends justfiy means maybe? I've got a few freinds turned onto Linux Mint [08:18] OK. Y have problem with libgnomebreakpad.so. What is it? Gnome apps ask for it but apt-file cannot find it [08:18] NeT_DeMoN: php is a scripting extension... unless you saved a jpeg with a php extension.. [08:18] Anyone read LInux User and Developer. I really like it. But not monthly like LFX [08:18] Schmick: i right clicked and saved the photo from a site [08:19] Any opinions on quad-console for KDE. Looks very useful for my work. Can it support more than 4 consoles? [08:19] rjohn: you can enable a medibuntu repository and have those apps as you need them [08:19] <_Casey_> heh i found my webcam problem [08:19] ere4si: ya, I think I will stick it in sources.list [08:19] k [08:19] is there just a way to reset the update process? [08:19] so its NOT partia: [08:19] partial* [08:19] Isn't it from kde-look? [08:19] <_Casey_> macromedia flash player 9 only supports video4linux v1 and not v2 i think [08:19] I'm trying to install WOW and I'm having problems any advice? [08:19] and have it start over [08:19] I'll feel a little guilty. Hey, consistency is hobgoblin of small minds. [08:19] <_Casey_> havoc [08:19] <_Casey_> use wine ;x [08:20] Belisarivs: no, im not allowed to give you the site here [08:20] I have wine but I don't know how to use it [08:20] havoc_, or /j #wine [08:20] <_Casey_> its [08:20] <_Casey_> #winehq [08:20] k [08:20] sa,e thing.. [08:20] #wine redirects [08:20] havoc_: We use wine at work, with CrossX support contrac .35 bucks a year. Well worth it. [08:21] ANY ideas? [08:21] havoc_: I might have Cross X worng. I think it is cross over office. They support it. Like Canonical for Ubuntu [08:21] staykovmarin: about what, sorry I missed the thread [08:21] ok i got it butit ask for paas and did not work [08:22] msg nickserv fuckyoucunt [08:22] detectiveinspekt: thank ou [08:22] Could you help, please? [08:22] !ops } detectiveinspekt [08:22] Belisarivs: what's the prob [08:22] aw ooops SORRY! [08:22] rjohn: about updgrading to gutsy [08:22] when I try to start the installer it says I cant [08:22] it seems to be stuck at partial update [08:22] I have problem with libgnomebreakpad.so. What is it? Gnome apps ask for it but apt-file cannot find it [08:22] staykovmarin: ya [08:22] and its not doing anything when i put the cd [08:22] in* [08:23] hmmm [08:23] is there a way to just roll it back with whatever i did install before it crashed [08:23] are you sure you burned it correctly [08:23] Any clue? [08:23] like not just an iso image.... as I have done so many times [08:23] staykovmarin: also,help me out, is gutsy 7.10 [08:23] rjohn: yes it boots from it okay === Rabbitbu1ny is now known as Rabbitbunny [08:23] staykovmarin: ok [08:24] can any one run me through it [08:24] sometimes CD are funny. I just had a 7.04 that looked ok, then weird errors. [08:24] how do I kicka user in ubuntu? [08:24] kick a user * [08:24] riaal: kick a user off? [08:24] yes, forgot to log out at home [08:24] can someone just tell me how to roll it back so its not stuck at partial? [08:24] have root access [08:25] Yaquake is a nice little tool [08:25] Anyone have a favorit GTD tool, like ikog? [08:26] iam trying 2 get on root it says this -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v [08:26] usage: sudo [-HPSb] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] [08:26] { -e file [...] | -i | -s | } [08:26] now what? [08:26] !sudo [08:26] sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. [08:26] king: you don't need to be root, you can use sudo [08:26] <_Casey_> king [08:26] <_Casey_> type [08:26] <_Casey_> sudo passwd [08:26] Nobody? [08:26] <_Casey_> then follow the prompts [08:26] <_Casey_> then type su [08:26] Shame. [08:27] Where are my dpkgs store? /var/lib something? [08:27] joshooa was helping me earlyer had problems with my CD Drive it works now the image is on my desktop I need to know what to do from there [08:27] Hi all! In Feisty, you used to be able to see the contents of the window while resizing. How do I get this behavior in Gutsy? Thanks! [08:27] riaal: us ps to find that user's bash... then kill it. [08:27] calm: I have that functionality in Gutsy, by default [08:28] ctroncoso: then dsable, or change passwd [08:28] (By default, Gutsy just gives me a semitransparent blue rectangle when I resize.) [08:28] ctroncoso: or in /etc/passwd, dont' give them a shell. [08:28] calm: compiz ? I've disabled it ... [08:28] okay so the cd worked when i first put it in [08:28] is there a reason it would stop working? [08:28] Any QA engineers out there [08:28] how do I install WOW with Wine? [08:28] dadehoog: Is there a way to keep compiz on, and still keep that behavior? [08:29] <_Casey_> havoc [08:29] Lookin for good tools to obtain max tcp sessions of a firewall appliance [08:29] calm: I'm sure there is, alas I don't know it. [08:29] yeah [08:29] iperf? [08:29] calm: or could it be the theme that you're using in your window manager ? [08:29] <_Casey_> i forgot what i was going to say, umm [08:29] !evolution [08:29] lol [08:29] <_Casey_> you should be able to do a runas or something [08:29] <_Casey_> and chose wine [08:29] dadehoog: I'm just using the default theme that came straight out of the Gutsy install. [08:29] <_Casey_> or double click install.exe [08:29] Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [08:29] <_Casey_> and it will open in wine [08:30] is it easy for me to tell evoltuiont to KEEP all my mail on server. [08:30] My fear is I suck it off the server [08:30] rjohn: it's only a friend that left a shell opened.. anyway.. I'd disable the account o change passwrd as well.. lol.. [08:30] i raed it and not working sudo [08:30] <_Casey_> king [08:30] rjohn: there's a checkbox in the configuration "Leave messages on server". Check it. [08:31] ctroncoso: hey, have more fun. give a motd about how their credit card info has been compormoise. Fun casue it's a frind. In another context, not fun at all [08:31] <_Casey_> you want to be root in the terminal right? [08:31] yes [08:31] king: why ? [08:31] dadehoog: ok, I get a DOH for that one. thanks [08:31] why doesn't evolution sit as an icon in notification area ???? === ctroncoso is now known as Schmick [08:31] Anyone using mutt for email? [08:31] <_Casey_> type "sudo passwd" and follow the prompts to create a root password if not already done. then type "su" and use the password to login as root [08:32] it seems quirky enought that I'd liek to do it. Just because [08:32] need to setup a thing [08:32] <_Casey_> noone in the flash channel wants to help me with my webcam problem [08:32] yea rjohn.. .. took me a while to find out the motd.tail thing.. lol.. [08:32] me 2 webcam [08:33] king and _Casey_: I think king only needs sudo - but isn't yet aware of it [08:33] need help, anyone? [08:33] * Schmick is away. [08:33] its not loading when I choose open with wine [08:33] I've got a printer that keeps putting out a 2 inch top margin. way too big. Do you think I need another ppd? it's a phaser 8550 [08:33] <_Casey_> idk lol i was helping [08:33] Otherwise, the printing works. I grabbbed the ppd from Xerox site. [08:34] I've dug around Cups, but don't see anytinhg obvious [08:34] i installed linux (ubuntu 7.10) and now i have linux and windows on my laptop.. and none of them can detect the DVD drive [08:34] rjohn: checked the margins and paper size ? [08:34] <_Casey_> read this. [08:34] <_Casey_> It has been stated on the Adobe website that only Video4Linux v.1 is supported. [08:34] <_Casey_> However, v.1 was deprecated in June of 2006 and now all Linux kernels are running v.2 with compatibility API for v.1. We have not been able to get Flash Player 9 for Linux to recognize a web-cam using the v.1 compatibility that v.2 of video4Linux has with it. [08:34] <_Casey_> stupid adobe :/ [08:34] docgnome - ya, I did [08:34] * noidtluom needs help to make his port open for uTorrent [08:34] I had a similar issue with a differnt printer. [08:35] noidtluom: do you have a router ? [08:35] any one here play wow on Linux? [08:35] dadehoog: yes [08:35] <_Casey_> havoc [08:35] noidtluom: because you probably need to set up port forwarding to your ubuntu machine [08:35] <_Casey_> try winehq.org [08:35] don't know much about cups, except how to get to the web sever via port 631, and that ppd files matter [08:35] <_Casey_> and look under the apps [08:35] <_Casey_> they have screenshots of it working [08:36] dadehoog: i'm on windows. i am tyring to download ubuntu [08:36] noidtluom: what's the problem [08:36] dadehoog: i have followed this guide http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Prolink/H9200P/Utorrent.htm [08:36] Are you using a good mirror? [08:36] but it still doesn't work [08:36] security.ubuntu.com is down? [08:36] <_Casey_> noid [08:36] noidtluom: this isn't a windows help channel ... but it's likely to be either your router, or a 'firewall' software package [08:36] yes i have tried several mirrors close to me [08:36] <_Casey_> are you on a wireless router [08:36] i have no firewall up [08:36] i am not on a wireless router [08:37] <_Casey_> what kind of router do you have [08:37] Prolink [08:37] (see above link) [08:37] <_Casey_> ok nvm lol [08:37] <_Casey_> i only do linksys [08:37] i just don't know where to go for hlep [08:37] hardware firewall? [08:37] blubb: up for me ... but the AU mirror has been slow all day [08:37] Is Konqeror still under devleopment. I prefer Firefox, probably cuase I'm much more familiar with it. But Konqueror doesn't seem to havfe the plugins [08:38] Not looking for religious war. Is Konqeror still under active development. Or is it in Thunderbird land. [08:38] i've waited half an hour and i've only downloaded 10mb [08:38] viena codot [08:38] Konqueror development probably started about the same time as firefox ... [08:38] i installed linux (ubuntu 7.10) and now i have linux and windows on my laptop.. and none of them can detect the DVD drive [08:38] more than half an hour i think [08:38] konqueror is under very active development - KDE 4.0 was released yesterday [08:38] chinmayzen: what does dmesg say [08:38] <_Casey_> noid [08:38] <_Casey_> dont use torrents then [08:38] chinmayzen: what does lsmod say? [08:38] <_Casey_> i downloaded the iso in under an hour [08:38] what? is all that? [08:38] i'm a n00b [08:39] sorry [08:39] <_Casey_> chin [08:39] <_Casey_> go to the terminal under linux [08:39] yeah? [08:39] <_Casey_> type in "lsmod" [08:39] downloading not using torrent usually just stops randomly after about 100mb [08:39] okay.. hang on [08:39] noidtluom you could try the torrent [08:39] chinmayzen: dmesg tells you what you kernel saw on boot up. so you can run dmesg|grep dvd [08:39] You might see what kernel identified [08:39] the links do not work [08:39] noidtluom: sounds like your whole connection is flakey [08:39] http://tinyurl.com/ytqqde [08:39] lsmod will tell you what module is loaded for dvd [08:39] chinmayzen: paste it into pastebin.ca and give the link if you're not sure [08:39] :( [08:40] oops wrong link.. whatever anyone tried to fixed intel 82801g audio driver? [08:40] Kernal has concept of loadable modules, instead of having to include all dirvers for everthing in module. [08:40] ohk.. [08:40] webcam [08:40] <_Casey_> mame [08:40] <_Casey_> try !hdaintel [08:40] <_Casey_> !hdaintel [08:40] For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto [08:40] <_Casey_> that worked for me [08:40] noidtluom i know if i download either torrent or direct i get roughly 800kb-1mb/s [08:40] _Casey_ i can get sound but it's too low quality :( [08:41] noidtluom sounds like your connection [08:41] <_Casey_> oh i see [08:41] <_Casey_> what does alsamixer say [08:41] In Gutsy, when I open Firefox by clicking the icon on the panel, it opens pointing to my home page, like it should. However, when I use a keyboard shortcut (I use ctrl-alt-f) to open Firefox, it opens pointing to "file:///home/myusername". This did not occur in Feisty. How can I fix this? [08:41] founds the device [08:41] mamep: you could lower your audion standards :) [08:41] <_Casey_> you have the alc268? [08:41] <_Casey_> king [08:41] <_Casey_> !webcam [08:41] Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras [08:42] did anyone notice what kind of update did we get on gusty today? I just noticed its asking for a reboot and I wanna know what was updated [08:42] my connection averave is about 10kbps [08:42] i guess after reading this some times now i have to check my old webcam at home ;-) [08:43] noidtluom are you using dialup? [08:43] <_Casey_> does skype on linux not do video? [08:43] skype on linux is complete trash [08:44] <_Casey_> well i need something for video ;x [08:44] EvanR: OK, I think I jus twon't use it. sounds like a time sync. When will it get beter? [08:44] can someone help me with this error [08:44] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1512/plain/ [08:44] rjohn: skype? probably never, its closed source and the company doesnt give a **** [08:45] just look at the forum and youll see [08:45] _Casey_: try ekiga? [08:45] <_Casey_> i have no friends that use ekiga [08:45] <_Casey_> but it works [08:45] <_Casey_> whats that msn one [08:45] are they really your friends? [08:45] :) [08:45] <_Casey_> yes they are [08:46] <_Casey_> but whats the msn video one for linux ;p [08:46] Evan Is Ekiga a SIP client? or H323 [08:46] rjohn: it does both [08:46] <_Casey_> its SIP [08:46] <_Casey_> oh [08:46] rjohn i think both [08:46] ok [08:46] skype is neither though [08:46] I thought SIP.. I'll check it out. WEuse it to tst [08:46] #ubuntu-ru [08:47] KDE of Gnome......Jus kidding :) [08:47] _Casey_: http://www.amsn-project.net/ [08:47] webcam support [08:48] <_Casey_> yes i saw that, im installing [08:48] gaim doesnt have video? [08:48] Anyone know where dkpgs go after download. /var/something [08:49] Is locate generally now a symlink to slocate for security reasons [08:49] <_Casey_> idk does it [08:49] <_Casey_> im on pidgin, which is gaim [08:49] Is there a lsmod type functionality for X, so I can see what modules are loaded there. [08:49] okay guys i'm the DVD - not - working problem guy [08:49] http://pastebin.ca/823325 [08:50] <_Casey_> amsn isnt logging in [08:50] chinmay vinyl is making a comeback :) [08:50] Casey [08:50] grr [08:50] rjohn - ? [08:50] chinmay sorry, I'm punchy. vinyl as in LPs. [08:51] I may be dating myself [08:51] <_Casey_> gaim has no video that i can see [08:51] I don't mean to make light of your frustrations wtih DVDs, I have had my share [08:51] chinmay i've had good luck playing my DVDs with VLC [08:51] guys i'm stumped [08:51] I am creating a wireless adhoc network from ubuntu , and vista laptop is trying to connect to it, but vista is showing limited connectivity for this network, any help [08:51] Is there an easy to install DLNA/upnp server for Ubuntu? [08:51] chinmay sudo apt-get install vlc [08:51] this thing doesnt detect the drive after booting [08:52] it's not about vlc [08:52] I'm new sorry I just got linux installed today [08:52] vb: what are the power settings. check wtih iwconfig or iwpriv [08:52] havoc_: how did it go [08:52] havoc_: what did you install? [08:52] Is there a dlna/upnp server for ubuntu? [08:53] one that works with gutsy or am I better off usuing windows? [08:53] rjohn: Tx-Power = 20 dBm [08:53] rjohn: dmesg : http://pastebin.ca/823332 [08:53] vb: seems good [08:53] I got the newest version of wine [08:53] am I better off usuing windows? [08:54] rjohn: why is there a limited connectivity, I cannot even ping each other [08:54] <_Casey_> ok amsn works for webcam [08:54] king: maybe [08:54] vb: it's ad hoc net? [08:54] <_Casey_> but i want flash to work with webcam now :/ [08:54] Is there a dlna/upnp server for ubuntu? [08:54] rjohn: yes [08:54] one that works with gutsy or am I better off usuing windows? [08:55] chinmayzen: I assume they both have ips on the same lan segment. ifconfig [08:55] can any one run me through what to do to get wine to work for me [08:55] thyrax_afk: did you search the repository [08:55] havoc_: install wine [08:55] I did [08:56] havoc_ right click the program then select run with wine emulator [08:56] I did that and nothing happend [08:56] EvanR: how do I do that? I have tried mediatomb, fuppes, and Ushare [08:56] kopete is the only im that works on cam [08:57] okay guys.. i know there's a lot of people here, but can anyone please help me, i installed ubuntu and now the dvd drive is not getting detected.. [08:57] each one is a no go even after following multiple tutorials I spent all day on this [08:57] this is dmesg and lsmod : http://pastebin.ca/823332 [08:57] havoc_ then wine may not be able to run it, check winehq.org for computability [08:57] thyrax_afk: how to search? press search and type your search terms [08:57] what ubuntu cd? [08:57] compatibility [08:57] do you mean in the add remove applications? [08:58] havoc_: you have to run your program with wine [08:58] havoc_: did you try that [08:58] so why doesn't the flash plugin work for a fresh gutsy install anymore? [08:58] Curs0r: something about the url it uses to download the plugin is now invalid [08:59] -I'm running gutsy [08:59] 7.10 right [08:59] EvanR, flashplugin-nonfree doesn't work either [08:59] EvanR: it says failed to check for installed and available applications [08:59] Curs0r, have you looked at the topic for the channel,that explains the problem [08:59] I have Wine and I'm trying to start up the WOW installer [08:59] thyrax_afk: ..? type--> wine myprog.exe [08:59] wine setup.exe [09:00] make sure you are in the same dir as the setup.exe [09:00] havoc_, I just ended up installing it under windows then moving the game files over to linux [09:00] havoc_ look at the winehq.org for installation instructions [09:00] setting up WOW has been done [09:00] there are some extra steps i believe [09:00] check the website, winehq [09:00] havoc_ some games don't run out of the box [09:00] EvanR: what does typing that do? what is wine? [09:01] thyrax_afk: arent you trying to use wine to run windows programs? [09:01] <_Casey_> look [09:01] <_Casey_> WoW runs on linux [09:01] <_Casey_> check winehq.com [09:01] guys all im sayin is [09:01] if u are paying for windows xp then ubuntu has no point [09:01] WoW runs under ubuntu on every system in my house [09:01] cuz ur not even supportin them [09:01] Curs0r: what software were you installed [09:01] ur supportin the ppl who will buy out ubunutu [09:02] an close them down [09:02] EvanR: no I am not [09:02] thyrax_afk: oh? [09:02] ronnie, um, what? [09:02] hello how to uninstall squid? [09:02] EvanR: I am trying to find dlna/upnp server app [09:02] thyrax_afk: sorry! :P [09:02] mixed up, crazy channel [09:02] but it says my source.list is screwed up and to check with synaptic how do I do that? [09:02] Well the topic gives an excuse but I wouldn't say that it explains the problem [09:03] Curs0r: nothing .... regardless me.. [09:03] thyrax_afk: try to update [09:03] JasonBourne: then dont use ubuntu [09:03] u dont see [09:04] i didnt buy winxp [09:04] EvanR: by typing sudo apt-get update? [09:04] I did that [09:04] thyrax_afk: hmm if your sources are messup... you gotta fix them before you can use the repo [09:04] so i can use ubunutu [09:04] how do I fix them? [09:05] thyrax_afk: there is a file which contains the url for the sources, you must find it and you must put the correct sources in there [09:05] thyrax_afk: im not sure the details, but its on the web [09:05] do you mean /etc/apt/source.list ? === GazzaK is now known as Gary [09:05] what happened [09:05] wow [09:05] <_Casey_> wtf with floods [09:05] do you mean /etc/apt/sources.list ? [09:06] <_Casey_> WTF was that [09:06] server split [09:06] _Casey_: netsplit [09:06] are floodbots ok? [09:06] <_Casey_> that was nuts [09:06] They are anti-flood bots [09:06] hello how to know if squid is running? [09:06] ubuntu 7.10 desktop [09:06] Kalamansi: use ps ax [09:06] guys all im sayin is dont support windows [09:06] cuz they are the ones who will shut ubununtu down [09:07] so u shouldnt buy it [09:07] JasonBourne: ok, i wont [09:07] JasonBourne, if you look at the real numbers win32 is losing ground to open source every day [09:07] can anyone tell me how to get a basic display information from xserver? [09:07] via terminal [09:07] wow I come back and there's been a netsplit [09:08] Kalamansi: one way is to look for a squid process [09:08] EvanR: ifireball: how to install squid?thanks [09:09] Kalamansi: another is to check for listening ports with netstat and see which process listens to the proxy port [09:09] Kalamansi: your first question was how to uninstall [09:10] Kalamansi: if you ask me that I don't think you should be installing squid before you do some more research [09:10] Kalamansi: though its a simple matter of selecting it in synaptic [09:10] i'm copying the files from the disc to the wine "program files" folder would that help? [09:10] havoc_: no [09:11] havoc_: the installer should do that for you [09:11] havoc_: and after that, you should read the guide for installing wow under wine [09:11] hello [09:11] and you get to experience wine's less than admirable disc changing during install [09:11] man I feel retarded [09:12] havoc_: yes, now look for one of infinite wow guides on the forum or on google [09:12] havoc_, that's why I keep a disc with the installed fileset [09:12] or winehq [09:15] hmm === TYPO3-AWAY is now known as TYPO3 [09:17] how does one use a .patch file to fix a perl script? [09:17] I have a file which I used split on to put it on cds and transfer it to another computer, but now im having trouble concatenating the files. It appears as if cat file1 file2 file3 concatenates the file but adds newlines? [09:17] How do you do the equivalent of "Repair connection" in Ubuntu (as in, renew the DHCP lease)? [09:18] Hi all [09:18] calm: its not really necessary, usually [09:18] calm: but you can kill and rerun dhclient if you want [09:19] theres also a network control thingy in the menu [09:19] ooops my mistake [09:19] I need to run a vncserver on my ubuntu machine. i installed the tightvncserver package, but Xvnc instances seem to crap out when I launch them [09:19] And what's the difference between checking and unchecking "Enable Networking" in the network applet (nm-applet), and checking and unchecking the box next to "Wired connection" in network settings? [09:19] calm: sudo ifdown (where ethX is your network interface) and then sudo ifup [09:19] EvanR: i see [09:20] http://www.petitiononline.com/lortow3/petition.html [09:21] ifireball: Is one of the two things I named the GUI equivalent of ifdown/ifup? [09:21] calm: network manager makes it so you dont have to do any of this [09:21] which is the best email client for ubuntu [09:21] it handles the whole thing for you [09:21] its automagic [09:21] calm: I don't really know [09:21] network manager is horrible [09:21] user11_011: trying to start a flamewar? [09:22] network manager is good for wireless networks [09:22] calm: ifdown disables networking, ifup enables it [09:22] evan_: I guess its ok for laptops and wifi [09:22] EvanR: not intending. but i want something which sits like a icon on panel. [09:22] evan_: so you have a wireless card with a driver that doesnt use wext, eh? [09:22] hello all [09:23] ifireball: sadly, it is not so on my computer [09:23] im having a problem switching betwen workspaces [09:23] it just isnt working [09:23] macogw: not sure, and I dont have a wireless connection setup to test it right now [09:23] user11_011: thunderbird can do that with a plugin, Evolution as well [09:23] evan_: I hear you, same here... [09:23] im tryin to click on it or use the shorcut keys but nothing [09:23] user11_011: ubuntu comes with evolution and that's accessible by clicking the clock. i used thunderbird when i only had imap access at one point, but there's no tray icon extension for it. i used alltray (install it then type "alltray thunderbird") to put it in the tray [09:24] i've tried to set it up with my uni's wireless network that uses leap authentication and wpa [09:24] Thanks for your help, everyone! === sunogbag1 is now known as sunogba6a === sunogba6a is now known as sunogbaga [09:25] user11_011: kmail [09:25] sporadic server they have over there [09:25] user11_011: kmail has a tray checkboy in its config [09:25] yeah, really shaky today [09:25] Greetings Ubunteros! [09:26] EvanR: cool [09:26] whats the flood here [09:26] user11_011: netsplit [09:26] last night they went out of service for a bit [09:26] ah ok [09:26] ifireball, yea, that applications menu you pasted restored my Menu list... [09:26] evan_: not so sure that was another netsplit...it happpened at the same time someone came in...there are ways to attack people on irc... [09:26] macogw: Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mcp, CarlFK, allbert, GodTodd, ladynikon, cdavis, darrend, ak__, SimNIX, CaBa\, (+64 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) [09:27] macogw: irssi disagrees :) [09:27] ifireball, a leap of faith that paid off [09:27] livingdaylight: I'm glad to hear that [09:27] EvanR: oh ok. i didnt see a bunch disappear on #ubuntu-offtopic [09:27] macogw: not many are disappearing in my other channels either just here === NoorIslam is now known as NoorulIslaam [09:27] EvanR: how does irssi know when its a netsplit? [09:28] it be smart [09:28] im having a problem switching betwen workspaces, i cant seem to do it any way i know of to try [09:28] macogw: you thing someone is flooding? doesn't seem so [09:28] guys: i have one thing out of sorts in my menu list... firefox is in the 'other' folder opposed to its native 'internet' folder in the applicaitons menu... how can i restore that? [09:28] livingdaylight: you can rearrange the menu all you want, theres a menu config utility in the menu somewhere [09:29] ifireball: i thought maybe it was a DCC attack. i remember over the summer one day i was told to change my connection port because i had a DCC exploit available through my router and that they knew because i was one of the people who disconnected when someone did a DCC attack on the whole channel [09:29] EvanR, not sure how it changed over to the 'other' folder and lost its icon... its just a white box now [09:29] is there anything special I need to do after I install the tightvncserver package to be able to run a vncserver? mine isn't working. [09:30] I'm looking for a free music notation program on ubuntu, but I want it to a graphic program and not something text-based like lilypond [09:30] livingdaylight: just right click the menu and modify it [09:30] livingdaylight: firefox icon is kinda flakey, i always keep a backup in my home dir somewhere [09:30] is there a way to play wma? [09:30] hobojohn3: yep [09:30] evanR:which player works best? [09:30] macogw: hmm... saved by firewall... interesting, anyone care to setup some kind of honeypot to verify that? [09:31] hobojohn3: i recommend mplayer [09:31] but its also possible to get totem to play them [09:31] hobojohn3, vlc [09:31] macogw, delete the firefox launcher in 'other' folder and create a new one in Internet where it belongs? this wont affect my firefox(that is what i'm afraid of) [09:31] hobojohn3: download: gstreamer0.10-plugins-good,bad and ugly and you can play wma [09:32] livingdaylight: right. thatll be fine. launchers have no effect on the actual program [09:32] livingdaylight: changing shortcuts does not affect the actual program [09:32] thx guys [09:32] ok which one ha a better auto search function so i dont have to import files 1 by 1? [09:32] hobojohn3: heh.... you want an entertainment center thing? :) [09:32] ifireball: i connect to freenode on port 8001 because its non-standard but still supported by freenode, so attacks on that port are less likely [09:33] the equivilant to winamp or something would be nice [09:33] hobojohn3: i just click on the movie i want to watch and it plays [09:33] EvanR: wma isnt a movie format [09:33] oh.......... [09:33] EvanR: Windows Media Audio [09:33] i have alot of music on an external hard drive and i dont want to have to go thru and click every song or even every folder if i dont have to [09:33] EvanR: you're thinking of wmv [09:33] yes [09:34] macogw: if its a DCC attack it doesn't matter on which port _you_ connect, it matters if your own DCC port is open [09:34] hobojohn3: amarok... [09:34] hobojohn3: just use rhythmbox. it probably works with wma since it uses gstreamer, and you can point it at a directory and itll find all the songs in there and in all the ones under it...so just point it at the Music folder and tell it to watch for new files [09:35] k thnx [09:35] ifireball: nope, some routers are buggy and freak when they get an invalid dcc request so force a connection reset [09:35] hobojohn3: youll need the gstreamer or xine codecs which do wma, they are restricted if i remember correctly [09:36] hobojohn3: get the ubuntu-restricted-codecs package from applications > add/remove, and you should be good [09:36] im working on getting them in synaptec [09:37] stdin: still, it doesn't matter which port you use to connect to the IRC server, unless that makes the router not use it's DCC connection tracking (you know it simply using the ip_conntrac_dcc module right?) [09:38] Where can I find details about the bugs fixed in a particular update? I'm thinking specifically of the NFS bug fixed in today's kernel update. [09:38] ifireball: PriceChild said to connect on port 8001 and then it wouldn't work if someone does that then go to #ubuntu-ops to test it. after connecting on that port, it passed [09:39] macogw: funny, they may be exploiting some netfilter bug in routers, though using that port may mean DCC won't work for you [09:39] ifireball: basically the router thinks "I received this DDC request on port 6667 (the default IRC port) so I'll open the ports needed to use DCC", but with an invalid request it freaks out and resets the connection. if you don't connect on 6667 then the router doesn't try to be helpful and open ports [09:40] ifireball: so? dcc never worked for me before anyway. at least, any time i tried to send a file to a friend over irc, they never got any notification to accept it [09:40] 45 packages over a poor wireless conection = me going to loooooong time [09:41] anybody know how to get multiple workspaces running [09:41] mines all messed up [09:41] hobojohn3, heh [09:41] jhaig: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22 [09:41] macogw: Thanks. [09:41] stdin: yeah I get it, funny... I hope that bug was fixed otherwise my own homemade router may also be vulnerable... though if they tried it on me now, it didn't seem to effect my Edimax here [09:41] hobojohn3, right-click --> properties --> configure away [09:42] ifireball: it's a bug in firmware, some vendors fix it, others don't [09:42] livingdaylight its not letting me do anything other than adding more or less rows/columns i cant change between any of them tho [09:43] stdin: you know that firmware is usually Linux with netfilter right? [09:43] hobojohn3, what do you mean you can't change between any of them? [09:43] ifireball: it's not just netfilter routers, it's effects many different routers [09:43] linksys for instance [09:43] livingdaylight i cant change from workspace to workspace if i click on another one or if i use the shorcut keys nothings working [09:44] hobojohn3, yikes... [09:44] hobojohn3: are you using a cube on compiz? [09:44] hobojohn3, so, you're stuck with one workspace? [09:45] stdin: linksys uses Linux afaik, y'know, openWRT n'stuff... [09:45] maco=no livingdaylight=yes [09:45] webcam help plz [09:45] ifireball: they used to use linux. they dont anymore, and they made the roms smaller since they got smaller non-linux firmware so you cant fit dd-wrt and openwrt on anymore either [09:45] ifireball: only the open version, the proprietary versions are effected too (and other vendors) [09:46] ifireball: ok i think stdin is right that they do have 1 model that's specifically open source [09:46] macogw, maco=no [09:46] all the 'normal' one's though, no [09:46] livingdaylight: i saw it. my "turn on rotate cube" suggestion is invalid [09:47] stdin, macogw : ok, but I do have to wonder if this was a bug in netfilter at some point and wither it was fixed [09:47] hobojohn3, sorry, i can't help you further... i'd be interested to know how you resolve it though [09:47] i cant try using the cube let me check [09:47] whre is the ubuntu splash screen logo at? i would like to replace it with a custom splash screen === sjoerd_ is now known as sjoerd [09:47] ifireball: it may be, I don't know. if you are worried just connect to freenode on port 8001 instead [09:47] ok i just had to turn on desktopplane [09:47] macogw, stdin : that is, considering that I did go into the trouble of making ip_conntrack_irc work... [09:48] macogw, sorry... just thought coz he didn't auto-complete your name properly you might have missed it... coz i figured you'd know otherwise the solution, being an ubuntu guru yourself :) [09:48] i dont have the greates graphics card so cube is last option [09:48] goodnight all [09:48] hobojohn3, :/ [09:48] livingdaylight: haha im not a guru [09:49] is anyone here running ubuntu 64bit with netbeans 6? [09:49] macogw, heh... i thought you attained sat-guru status? [09:49] utmost enlightenment [09:49] i noticed that it hogs about 400mb's of memory on my system === DarthShr1ne is now known as DarthShrine [09:50] ghostlines: welcome to bloatware? [09:50] 'throw more memory at the problem' [09:51] lol strange enough my friend runs ubuntu 32bit and it runs fine [09:51] runs fine but im sure its not easier on memory [09:51] ghostlines: I've yet to see a version of java that runs properly on x86_64 [09:52] yep it uses 98 intstead of 400mb [09:52] heh [09:52] ghostlines: theoretically, 64bit will use 2x as much memory as 32bit because word size is doubled. [09:52] thats stilly [09:52] silly [09:52] macogw: you'd wish intel tech was that clean and simple... [09:53] ifireball: i said theoretically. there's probably some optimizations in there to make 64bit not waste so much memory on small operations [09:53] is there any solution to make public network communicate with education network faster? [09:54] macogw: memory is still in 4byte integers [09:54] macogw: also a bunch of ugly hacks to make it backward compatible with 32bit... [09:54] hey all.... does anyone know about php and ldap [09:54] EvanR: really? that seems odd. how are they using 1/2 words? [09:54] macogw: the same way you can use short ints in 32bit [09:54] ima-n00b: what is the problem [09:54] i was wondering if (when setting up gutsy as a lamp server) whether it has pre-compiled ldap support [09:55] ifireball & evanr: havent gotten to computer architectures 2 yet :) until i realized today that i have a B, not a C, in comp archs 1, i was thinking i wouldnt take it at all [09:55] trying to use ldap with mrbs (booking system) [09:55] EvanR: do they just put 0's in the empty bits? [09:55] no that would suck [09:55] ima-n00b: you can install the "php5-ldap" package [09:55] EvanR: so they split it mid-word? [09:56] macogw: this is all the job of the c library, and the instructions allow for using both sides of the word [09:56] ima-n00b: assuming you're using php5 [09:56] ifireball: cool... and that will enable ldap support (i mean... i wont have to recompile php with the enable ldap switch) [09:56] ifireball: yeah.. php5 [09:56] please help apache2 wont start...? [09:56] EvanR: addressing would be weird like that. you'd have 2 pieces of data in the same address, wouldnt you? [09:57] tyler_d: try starting it manually? [09:57] is there any solution to make public network communicate with education network faster?i am in public network,when i surf on edution web,speed is painfully slow? [09:57] macogw: yes /etc/init.d/apache2 start [09:57] macogw: man, i forgot all this.. :( [09:57] ima-n00b: yes, take a look in synaptic, there is a whole bunch of packages named php-XXXX or php5-XXX to enable various things [09:57] hallo: yeah, get the kids on the school's network to stop torrenting [09:57] macogw: ps -ef | grep -i apache shows apache but no apache2 [09:58] EvanR: heh im forgetting too. that was beginning of the semester stuff, so i'm a little fuzzy [09:58] macogw: we never see the physical addresses anyway [09:58] ifireball: thanks... i always forget the little things lol.. and to think they let me use linux ;) [09:58] hehe , you must be kidding...macogw [09:58] i just lost my title bars and i cant figure out how to get them back help please [09:58] macogw: usr/local/bin shows nothing in there... although it is refrences from ./apache2 in init.d [09:58] ima-n00b: its very rare that you need to manually compile stuff in things as common as the LAMP stack [09:58] help, when i try to use the visual effects i get a "the composite extension is not available" error message, how do i fix this problem? [09:58] hallo: of course. but that's part of why the school's like to kick the p2p and high-bandwidth kids. they slow the rest of the network down [09:58] sd32_: graphics card? [09:59] ifireball: thanks heaps :) [09:59] nacogw,radeon 9600 pro [09:59] hobojohn3: emerald --replace [09:59] so nobody here is running ubuntu 64bit with netbeans 6? [09:59] and has a memory prob? [09:59] sd32_: lsmod | grep fglrx [09:59] hmmm [09:59] anybody want to send me some more hard drives? [09:59] Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [09:59] /dev/sda1 448G 7.3G 418G 2% / [09:59] /dev/md0 1.4T 12G 1.4T 1% /home [09:59] ghostlines: that narrows it down... :P [10:00] macogw, thanks [10:00] thnx [10:00] sd32_: no, tell me what it says. [10:00] that scared me bad [10:00] what you mean,earlmred [10:00] ghostlines: anyway did you try to look at the startup parameters it passes to java? [10:00] macogw, just a sec [10:00] earlmred: u've only managed to fill 1.4T to 12G o_0 [10:00] ima-n00b, fresh install. [10:00] earlmred: holy **** [10:01] earlmred: lol kk... was just thinkin... all that space... its like ownin a farm and lookin out on an empty field and thinkin... i could so use some water slides [10:01] you have 1 partition....no way. LVM? [10:01] macogw: doesn't produce anything though... when I try and start it, not returning any values :( [10:01] ima-n00b, believe me, i'll be filling my 15Mbit pipe soon. [10:01] earlmred: nice, how many actual drives do you have under that md0 ? [10:02] tyler_d: and if you go to 127.0.0.1 in firefox you see nothing? [10:02] ima-n00b, windows managed to lose me about 700GB on that array, so it got nuked and moved to the ubuntu rig. [10:02] macogw: notice the "md0" [10:02] ifireball: i dont know what that means [10:02] macogw: I have the default apache 1.2 screen [10:02] ifireball: ive never seen it before [10:02] macogw: but thats it [10:02] earlmred: 15Mbit pipe... 0_0 ... i have 1.5 mbit.. shared between the other users [10:02] tyler_d: then its working [10:02] macogw: MD is the Linux software raid, it came before LVM [10:02] macogw: if it were working it would be listed in ps -ef [10:03] macogw: no [10:03] macogw:?? [10:03] macogw,fglrx 656352 15 [10:03] agpgart 35016 2 fglrx,intel_agp [10:03] earlmred: so how are u finding the difference between os's and handling the raid? [10:03] help with web cam? [10:03] tyler_d: oo wait youre seeing 1.2 ...do you have both installed? [10:03] ima-n00b, doesn't eat my cpu nearly as much, atleast not as noticeably. [10:03] sd32_: ok the right driver is loaded [10:04] sd32_: do you have xgl enabled? [10:04] macogw: need 1.2 to have 2.0 running don't you? [10:04] macogw, how do i check? [10:04] tyler_d: no. just install apache2. only one or the other can be on your localhost [10:04] earlmred: lol cool.. i have one ubuntu box sitting as a file server at work.. raid5 4x 200 gig drives... hasnt had a problem yet :) [10:04] its that old its still running dapper [10:04] macogw: ok [10:05] gimme 2 seconds [10:05] sd32_: youre using gutsy, right? [10:05] ow, that's not kewl. ubuntu jeos installs a virtual kernel [10:05] oh lame [10:05] my gmail mount wasn't mounted. [10:05] macogw, yes [10:05] it's unfortunate mount.gmailfs doesn't support df -h [10:06] ima-n00b: and you call yourself a n00b... [10:06] sd32_: install xserver-xgl if you dont have it already [10:07] macogw,ok [10:07] Hello, my cdrom is actng all weird. I put in a cd-rw and the moment I start a CD-burner the CD starts rotating like crazy and I can't get it out. [10:07] hmm strange [10:07] df works on gmailfs [10:07] sluimers: sounds broken. physically. [10:07] but not df -h [10:07] The cdrom? [10:07] sluimers: i say that because i *know* mine is physically broken and it does the same thing. the drive. [10:07] python 6.2G 50M 6.1G 1% /media/gmail [10:07] haha nice. [10:08] ah, okay [10:08] But also only when you start burner application? [10:08] otherwise they work just fine? [10:09] sluimers: for the last year ive watched as my drive went from able to read dvds to stopping midway through and refusing to read (needed reboot), to not always opening and spinning up when ripping but being able to play, to always not-opening and always spinning up during ripping [10:09] macogw,ok done [10:09] sluimers: er, stopping midway is on dvds. the spinning up on rip and the abillity to play are in regards to cds [10:09] sd32_: try now? [10:10] oktanouc, thanks [10:10] macogw, ok thanks [10:10] macogw, ah okay... I'll try an external dvd-writer then [10:10] sluimers: the trouble i had with it not reading all the way is, one where it doesnt move along the track right (i think). it seems the lens is having trouble now though. [10:10] Whenever I set my time, it doesn't set the hardware clock. So I restart and the clock is wrong again. How can I sync the software and hardware clock? [10:10] sluimers: cd drives spin up when they cant read the disk right. the assumption is that higher speeds will stabilize and level out the disk to get an easier read [10:11] ghostknife: How far off are they? [10:11] ghostknife: set the hardware clock before you boot, in the BIOS [10:11] macogw: thanks, so it means I should use an external dvd-writer and that would just work fine, ne? [10:11] sluimers: yep [10:11] macogw, okay, see ya then, gonna reboot. [10:12] macogw: no love [10:12] tyler_d: you got rid of apache 1 so you only have 2, then restarted 2? [10:12] macogw: 2 won't start, same as before [10:12] are there known problems with gutsy and hda intel soundchip? [10:13] I only get crackles on this asus laptop [10:13] macogw, it says desktop effects could not be launched [10:13] tyler_d: so nothing's there when you go to 127.0.0.1 now? [10:14] sd32_: are you using the system > preferences > appearance thing? ive never actually gotten that thing to work. try running "compiz --replace" in the terminal === ULTRADJ83_ is now known as ULTRADJ83 [10:14] Flannel: exactly two hours (timezone) [10:14] macogw, ok [10:14] ghostknife: shut down, go into your BIOS, and set the system time. [10:15] ghostknife: So, your hardware clock is set to UTC, it sounds like? Or is it UTC + offset [10:15] ghostknife: Do you dualboot with windows? [10:15] I set the clock in BIOS initially, but then Linux applied the timezone. There is a way to sync the hardware clock though. Gentoo runs a certain command, can't remember what though [10:15] Hey, is there a way to somehow "loop" motions of a rig or whatever in a scene [10:15] Flannel: no [10:15] macogw: you got it [10:15] Bleh, wrong channel :S [10:15] ghostknife: the BIOS clock is supposed to be set to UTC, not local time [10:15] ghostknife: ntp syncs with internet time servers [10:15] macogw: I figured that [10:16] ghostknife: And your system clock is right, it just sets the HW clock wrong? Or your system clock is wrong too? [10:16] ghostknife: if you right click on the clock in ubuntu you can install it and set it to sync [10:16] macogw,Starting gtk-window-decorator [10:16] /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: Support for non power of two textures missing [10:16] /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0 [10:16] /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :1.0 [10:16] Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "toggle_shaded" [10:16] Flannel: macogw: nm, i checked the gentoo init script: hwclock --systohc [10:17] sorry, should have used pastebin [10:17] ifireball: lol... yeah.... i know enough to be dangerous... and in comparison to some of you guys.. i probably dont know much at all.. i mean.. it took me a few days to figure active directory authentication out so it would link into the windows domain [10:17] Can anyone help me get my encrypted swap working automatically after boot? For some reason the mapper device is not created on boot. [10:17] i'm downloading wow "trial version" this should work better with wine than using the DVD CD right? [10:17] sd32_: it appears to dislike your settings [10:17] havoc_: not really [10:17] havoc_: it's the same software [10:17] Flannel: I set my HW clock to Localtime, and now a timezone is applied. I was supposed to set it two hours into the past (which is UTC from here) [10:18] havoc_: so why would it work better ? [10:18] ima-n00b: ive never even tried that. i wouldnt really want to either though [10:18] havoc_: You followed the howto on the wiki for wine, right? [10:18] ima-n00b: that not a trivial thing to figure out at all... you can be proud of yourself [10:18] <_Casey_> garlic - A visualization program for biomolecules [10:18] ghostknife: If you *really* want your HW clock to be set to localtime, you can do that, you just need to tell linux that you're doing so. [10:18] Flannel: no, it's fine. I travel alot, so I need the timezone thing [10:18] having problems with instalation mainly [10:18] Flannel: but it's fine. the /sbin/hwclock command did the trick [10:18] ghostknife: So, why are you setting your HW to localtime then? [10:18] why does ubuntu jeos need reiserfs programs? [10:19] havoc_: you'll find much more experienced wine support in #winehq [10:19] macogw, it also scrambled some icons [10:19] Flannel: I didn't know it at the time [10:19] macogw: it was either linux running it or windows... kinda had no choice lol [10:19] ima-n00b: that kinda fall under the category of "things most sysadmins dont want to try" and is kinda the reason if you're migrating a setup from windows to linux, you do the servers first [10:19] ghostknife: Ah, you got it all figured out now? sounds good. [10:19] how can i make DNS change permanent? [10:19] Flannel: I was confused and just set it to mu current time. didn't think further [10:19] sd32_: scrambled icons? [10:19] ifireball: ill be proud when i can get gutsy to do it [10:19] thats where I got this Idea WOW forum on wine [10:19] pvt_harv: do you run dns servers ? [10:19] ifireball: for some reason gutsy doesnt work the same as feisty, edgy and dapper [10:19] havoc_: can we stop chatting about wow [10:20] havoc_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft [10:20] !dns [10:20] DNS is an acronym for Domain Name System, and is an internet system used to translate names into IP Address. [10:20] how can i make DNS change permanent? [10:20] phiqtion: do you run your own dns servers ? [10:20] Sorry I'm not the only person who has problems installing the game [10:20] phiqtion: what do you mean permanent? [10:20] havoc_: so ? [10:20] macgow, the trash icon is scrambled and the sound icon is unidentifiable [10:20] ikonia: no [10:20] havoc_: you'r not actually trying to do anything you just keep chatting [10:20] phiqtion: what do you mean by dns change? you want to tell the computer where to find a specific website or you want to set a different nameserver as your default? [10:21] macogw: my ideal would be to have one windows server handling authentication and group policy for clients and linux handling all the intranet/file/dhcp/whatever else i can throw into it serving [10:21] phiqtion: then YOU can't make changes perm, you need to speak to who ever runs your game [10:21] runs your dns server sorry [10:21] ghostknife: like saying, i use OPENDNS dns servers instead of being "automatic" which relays to my ISP. [10:21] ima-n00b: thats very do-able [10:21] ima-n00b: many ways to walk that path, and many different end results, I do wish for once to hear someone trying to auth windows into an openldap domain and not the other way around [10:21] can anybody guide me to a way to create an emerald theme from scratch? [10:21] macogw, on the top and bottom panels [10:21] hobojohn3: not reallly, thats nothing to do with ubuntu [10:21] phiqtion: those go in /etc/hosts [10:21] Forgive me because I have been trying to learn alot of stuff in one day [10:22] phiqtion: i mean /etc/resolv.conf [10:22] ifireball: lol... when i have enough time to figure it out it will be done... only prob is im not sure how it will handle group policy [10:22] phiqtion: sorry, easy to mixup [10:22] hobojohn3: google can guide u [10:22] phiqtion: what do you want to achieve? [10:22] macogw: thx [10:22] macogw, guess ill have to revert? [10:22] ifireball: its... kinda nice to lock all users down lol (or should that be mwahahahahaha) [10:22] ikonia im waiting for a response in the #compiz-fusion channel [10:22] hobojohn3: so ? that doesn't mean join other random channels and ask [10:22] and google isnt helping me much at the moment but im still looking [10:23] hobojohn3: i dont think you can start blank. have to hit edit on one, but then just change everything about it in the edit thing, and then save it with a new name [10:23] hobojohn3: compiz-fusion is also nothing to do with creating emerald themes [10:23] if I want to make a really long post to ubuntuforums (pasting the output from strace firefox - cuz firefox keeps crashing) is there somewhere I should put the output and just link to it? [10:23] never messed with linux untill today [10:23] ikonia: i just gotta get the time to do it [10:23] sd32_: metacity --replace will take you back [10:23] ima-n00b: I say to hell with group policy, everything it does can be achieved with some startup scripts, or maybe someone ported puppet already [10:23] sd32_: it seems you have some settings that it dislikes. have you already run it and now it stopped working? [10:23] macogw, ok thanks [10:23] macogw: # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit! [10:23] ifireball: puppet??? [10:23] Chriswaterguy: I'd be concerned at why firefox is crashing with a really long post [10:24] ima-n00b, What are you trying to do ? [10:24] phiqtion: yeah i know it says that. you can try editing it anyway. idk if it might be overwritten by NM, but you can try putting it in and see what happens. just put it at the top of the list [10:24] macogw, yeah plus the refresh rates have slowed to a crawl [10:24] ima-n00b: google it, thats the best thing to happen in UNIX sysadmin (imo...) [10:24] anyone else with a suggestion on why apache2 will not start? [10:24] sd32_: fglrx shouldnt be that bad.... [10:24] when is KDE4 released? [10:24] tyler_d: apache2ctl configtest [10:24] About the same time as DNF [10:25] phiqtion: join #kde [10:25] phiqtion: oh. I'm late but now I get what you meant. You wanted your DNS to not be automatically set by the ISP when you dial up. Hah! I'm slow :/ [10:25] macogw, i havent reverted yet [10:25] ima-n00b: http://ifireball.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/excited-about-puppet/ [10:25] sd32_: i mean fglrx shouldnt be that slow at rendering composited window managers [10:25] sd32_: fglrx is your graphics driver [10:25] How is Kubuntu compared to Ubuntu? Also have proper GUIs for configuring and package management. For a desktop machine the terminal can get quite frustrating, but Gnome aswell [10:25] ikonia: what I mean is, the background issue is that Firefox keeps crashing. Hugely unstable. The immediate issue is I want to paste the strace output to ubuntuforums, and see if someone can help me find out what the problem is with Firefox. that's very long, so maybe I shouldn't just paste it into a regular post...? [10:26] phiqtion: I think they are looking to release sometime in Jan 2008 [10:26] ghostknife: lol [10:26] Chriswaterguy: just upload the file [10:26] is there a website showing off the new KDE features? [10:26] ima-n00b: don't the ususal pam-ldap/pam-kreberos/winbind tricks work with gusty? [10:26] Chriswaterguy: rather than cut and paste it [10:26] phiqtion: kde.org [10:26] hi i would like to ask, how is it possible that a drive gets formatted when you tell the partitioner to resize? [10:26] Chriswaterguy: pastebin? === schueler is now known as benpicco [10:26] Chriswaterguy: or attach it to the post [10:26] staykovmarin: you made a wrong move [10:26] orly? [10:26] ikonia: could not open httpd.conf [10:26] staykovmarin: resizing can corrupt a file system also [10:27] tyler_d: does httpd.conf exist ? [10:27] staykovmarin: and if it's ntfs, there are crazy things windows couldve done to it before [10:27] ok, thanks... (looking up pastebin) [10:27] ikonia: any idea how i can recover that? since this fucking community has been completely useless to me up to this point [10:27] ghostknife, kubuntu can also use synaptic package manager. you can have both kubuntu and ubuntu installed at the same time. simply install package kubuntu-desktop [10:27] staykovmarin: well your language is uncalled for - so no [10:27] staykovmarin: not until you learn how to chat [10:27] ghostknife: Kubuntu has adept as its GUI package manager [10:27] staykovmarin: should always defrag ntfs before partitioning, and if the partitioner warns you it could be inconsistent, do as it says and chkdsk /f from windows twice [10:27] staykovmarin, It shouldn't get "reformatted" if you just tell it to resize, it will however re-write the partition table, but that is not reformatting [10:28] macogw, uh oh, when i run metacity it gives me a "dave@mypc:~$ metacity --replace [10:28] Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "toggle_shaded" [10:28] Thanks people! (signing off) [10:28] sd32_: weird. [10:29] i am sorry about my language. i just lost 2 years of information while trying to update to 7.10, and receiving no clues from the 1100+ people here. [10:29] ghostknife, You can use synaptic in KDE, it just won't fit in well with the look of KDE, and will require loading of GTK libraries ( which is done automatically but takes more memory than using *only* qt applications ) [10:29] staykovmarin: that doesn't excuse your language [10:29] ikonia: messed up, didn't create it... foolish of me... vi'd the file, still no starting though [10:29] staykovmarin, you didn't back up first? [10:29] staykovmarin: and this is community support - not paid for support so you don't HAVE to get an answer [10:29] I have installed a whole bunch of gnustep packages, now how do I get a gnustep desktop? [10:30] staykovmarin: there's actually like 3 knowledgeable people and 7 newbies in here right now. [10:30] macogw, should i go through a xserver reconfigure? [10:30] sd32_: no. your xserver is fine. it's xgl that's sucky [10:30] staykovmarin, what's the problem. [10:30] earlmred: yes i did back up, to a partition that is now gone. [10:30] <|ima-n00b|> ifireball: puppet???? (sorry.. net got disconnected) [10:30] ikonia: i appologise. [10:30] sd32_: i know xgl is slower than aiglx, but bleh. [10:30] staykovmarin: resizing a partition has risks with it [10:30] staykovmarin: needless to say, you should -always- have external backups [10:30] staykovmarin: thats ust a fact of lie [10:30] just [10:31] hello everybody [10:31] staykovmarin, Yikes, you might try "testdisk", but if the partition really was formatted over then most if not all your data is gone :( [10:31] okay, so are you aware of any way to bring it back? [10:31] staykovmarin, okay, so did you overwrite that partition? or? [10:31] ima-n00b: google it, thats the best thing to happen in UNIX sysadmin (imo...) [10:31] ima-n00b: http://ifireball.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/excited-about-puppet/ [10:31] staykovmarin: what format was the partition? [10:31] can anybody help me make suspend / hibernate work on gutsy using fglrx? [10:31] nah, the data can still be there even if it was written over, well, some of it. [10:31] ima-n00b: don't the ususal pam-ldap/pam-kerberos/winbind tricks work with gusty? [10:31] depending on the file system. [10:31] macogw: it was fat32 [10:31] staykovmarin, Firstly, what makes you think that your windows partition is gone? [10:31] staykovmarin: there are diagnostic tools on Helix (Knoppix based forensics distro that runs from cd) that you can use for recovery [10:31] cristi: that seems to be a common issue with the ati drivers [10:32] Jordan_U: the windows one is there, its the fat32 that i used to backup all my files that is gone [10:32] ikonia: i know, but everybody seems to solve it using SLAB, except me [10:32] earlmred: usually the data's there. the trouble with ext3 is that the node that pointed to it gets the address cleared from it (not trouble if you're into privacy though). ext2 didnt clear the inode/pointer so you could just look at it and get the address of the file no prob. [10:33] <|ima-n00b|> ifireball: wasnt using ldap.. was only using kerberos and winbind... what worked for feisty edgy and dapper no longer works for gutsy... cant figure out y [10:33] staykovmarin, What makes you think that it is gone? [10:33] ok so now when I stop it it comes back with pid not found.... and no errors when I start it [10:33] :( [10:33] any one else had this problem with amarok. I download a bunch of album cover . Now it keep trying ot updating my collection and it get to 86% and does that forever and run really slow [10:33] G'day. I am currently upgrading to 7.10. The upgrade has frozen during configuration of libpam0g. As my lptp resolution is poor, I can not see the last terminal commands :( ANy ideas what to do next? [10:33] i cant find it from windows or from linux. both say its 200gb partitions, both empty [10:33] tyler_d: thats because it's not running [10:33] tyler_d: the pid not found = not started [10:33] staykovmarin, recovermyfiles is what i used to use when i worked tech support ... you'll need to mount the drive in another machine though [10:33] www.ownlinux.cn welcome every1, ownlinux.cn is blog about ubuntu linux,written by many student who love ubuntu. [10:33] What do you use as a backup solution for you projects (svn reps, working copies, etc)? Shell scripts and ftping to another server maybe? [10:33] macogw, i can't exactly recover my filesystems ... reiser. [10:33] macogw,would a restart help? [10:34] earlmred: does reiser zero-out the blocks when you delete? [10:34] sd32_: cant hurt [10:34] viking09, What do you mean you can't see the last terminal commands? Is this in a window? If so you can hold alt and drag the window up. [10:34] macogw, there's just no rfs recovery tools. [10:34] |ima-n00b|: well, can't really help there, I don't have an AD around here to play with [10:34] macogw, ill try that and see [10:34] earlmred: oh. yuck. [10:35] <|ima-n00b|> ifireball: lol.. thanks for the thought but its ok... its on one of my lists of things to figure out when i get the time... (or cut the phone cable to stop the users calls) [10:35] has anybody been able to make suspend / hibernate work in gutsy with fglrx? [10:36] staykovmarin, Still here? [10:36] staykovmarin, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk [10:36] yes i am here [10:37] staykovmarin, Testdisk is available through synaptic/ apt on Ubuntu BTW, in case you don't know how to install software yet. [10:37] cristi: you have to blacklist it [10:37] i have downloaded a package in ubuntu using synaptic package manager [10:37] so, snd_hda_intel working for everybody else?? [10:37] where is the file now [10:37] staykovmarin, Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" ? [10:37] staykovmarin, yeah, boot off the live cd, and then apt-get install testdisk [10:38] funny thing is it worked in my previous install ... [10:38] i have a little problem with the xorg.conf http://tinyurl.com/yw97ry does anybody know what is wrong? [10:38] i only downloaded the package [10:38] cristi: gksu gedit /etc/default/acpi-support [10:38] earlmred: usefull link - tnx [10:38] <|ima-n00b|> i gtg all.. thanks for the help :) [10:38] cristi: put fglrx inside the quotes on line 17 (the one that says MODULES="") [10:38] earlmred: does it matter which live cd? i dont have a 7.10 live cd, but i do for 7.4 [10:38] okay, I have been searching around but still cannot find info: [10:38] how to use gworkspace as desktop manager? [10:38] staykovmarin, If you install testdisk from the liveCD you will need to enable the universe repository first [10:39] staykovmarin: any will do [10:39] Hi! I'm thinking of which of two TFT's I'll buy, the one has pivot and heightadjustable stand, while the other doesn't. I has never used pivot and wonder if there is a benefit when you read, write and programming a lot? which I' [10:39] macogw: how will this work [10:39] it is not an option in the login screen [10:39] macogw: i mean, can the module be remove while X is running? [10:39] !offtopic >mEck0 [10:39] staykovmarin, testdisk is available for both, but 7.10 will have a newer version [10:39] cristi: itll unload the driver when you suspend or hibernate, then when you re-awaken the computer, it'll reload the module [10:40] cristi: i dont think X keeps running when you're suspended, and i know it doesnt when you hibernate [10:40] macogw: okey, thanks, i'm trying it now [10:40] Jordan_U: i cant get online with that machine. can i install it using a different source? [10:40] cristi: nothing really keeps running (except your power supply & ram with suspend). the contents of the memory are just frozen (suspend) or copied to disk (hibernate) [10:40] :-( where can i find downloaded package? [10:40] help! I Switched my screen resulotion, now I cant switch back... [10:40] hi === cool is now known as cwe_skaGP [10:41] soroush: from using apt, you mean? /var/cache/apt/archives/ [10:41] Do you know how to change channel of alsa in smplayer? And 2 question: I don't have icon after install frostwire... [10:41] staykovmarin, Yes, you can download the .deb before hand and put it on a USB drive or something [10:42] macogw, no. i used synaptic package manager but i told it just to download the package [10:42] Jordan_U: can i somehow get it off the 7.10 cd? i dont have a pen drive [10:42] lokpest: hit ctrl alt f1, and (write this down) type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure --phigh xserver-xorg" [10:42] is there a place in ubuntu 7.10 that you can see all the program you have install and lib I guess too . [10:42] tarelerulz: nautalius [10:43] soroush: synaptic is just a front-end to apt. well it would, if you downloaded command line, go wherever you did it from. im gonna guess it either went to your home drive, /tmp, or the archives i said [10:43] tarelerulz: synaptic package manager [10:43] tarelerulz: synaptic [10:43] staykovmarin, Testdisk does not come on the Ubuntu LiveCD, you will need to download it separately or connect to the internet from the LiveCD ( or use a data recovery distribution that has it installed on the CD itself ). [10:43] tarelerulz: if you want them in a text file, "dpkg --get-selections>installed.txt" [10:44] I thought synaptic thought is for see what you have if you know what your looking for not just gernelly tell what you have [10:44] Jordan_U: can i somehow use the 7.10 applications cd? i though i can use that as a repo? [10:44] staykovmarin: if you have two optical drives [10:44] tarelerulz: sort by installed status [10:44] macogw, it is not in tmp or home . where is the archive [10:44] i want to have package for future use [10:45] soroush: /var/cache/apt/archives/ (everything you install is in there) [10:45] it is my sound card driver [10:45] hi all [10:45] anyone wanna care to chat with me..? [10:45] !ask > elturco33 [10:45] staykovmarin, It is only a repository for the default applications, and the DVD only contains the main repository, testdisk is in universe ( I think it would take at least 6 DVD's full of compressed packages to hold all of the packages in universe ) [10:45] Jordan_U: Ta, that worked. It stopped with prompt for 'Services to restart for PAM library upgrade:' What to do? [10:46] macogw, how long will they stay there? [10:46] Thanks all I can't believe I did not think of such ,but I did not . thank for the help [10:46] soroush: until you empty them [10:46] amode [10:47] viking09, Take a screenshot ( for a bug report as this should prompt you that is interactive ), submit a bug report then just hit return and the upgrade should continue :) [10:47] !bugs | viking09 [10:47] viking09: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots [10:47] macogw, thanks a lot [10:47] soroush: there's a setting in synaptic to make it not keep them at all, but it's not on by default. [10:47] soroush: if you start to run out of hard drive space, first thing to do is "sudo apt-get clean" to empty that out ;) [10:48] viking09, Not that it is a malfunction per se, just that that package should use debconf which would have presented you with a nice user friendly window rather than just stopping and expecting you to know what to do [10:48] know any command line program that can encryption a file with a key? [10:48] giant step backwards, apache won't install now... errors installing, returned error code 1 :() [10:48] Vinno: gpg [10:49] macogw, What do you mean by what I have install in a text file ? is that the location or the text file with that information or command to run ? [10:49] macogw, thanks again [10:49] how to install dhcp server? [10:49] Kalamansi: the package is called dhcp-server and it's in the ubuntu repo's [10:50] how do I force a dpkg to re-write all configs? [10:50] tyler_d: re-install [10:50] tyler_d, reinstall --purge [10:50] tyler_d, from apt [10:51] tarelerulz: say you have just gotten a computer all set up with everything you need installed and you need to do the same thing to 20 computers. you dont want to go through and pick them all individually, so you do "sudo dpkg --get-selections >installed.txt" and that makes a list of packages that you have as a text file. on the others, just copy in that text file and run "sudo dpkg --set-selections >installed.txt && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade" [10:51] How can I totally replace vi with wim? [10:51] I removed /usr/bin/vi [10:51] and symlinked it to vim [10:51] JacobSingh: install vim. [10:51] and when I type vi now, Vim loads, but it acts like ci [10:51] is this a english cannal? [10:51] sorry like vi [10:51] JacobSingh: ubuntu doesnt come with proper vim [10:51] but when I run vim [10:51] it works fine [10:51] speed: yes [10:51] speed: any particular language you were looking for? [10:52] macele: What is up with that? [10:52] I'm not crazy [10:52] JacobSingh, vim has a vi compatibility mode, that is called when you use 'vi' [10:52] german? [10:52] JacobSingh: it comes with tiny vim or something silly [10:52] !de | speed [10:52] speed: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de [10:52] so if you call it with the command "vi" it auto goes into compat mode? [10:52] macogw, oops I was in gnome when I made those changes but was using kde desktop environment [10:52] that is retarded... [10:52] ou thanks [10:52] JacobSingh, You asked for vi :) [10:52] JacobSingh: set nocompatible [10:52] JacobSingh: put that in your .vimrc to snap it back out [10:53] JacobSingh, Just like you shouldn't expect bash when you ask for /bin/sh [10:53] macogw, back in kde now and the refresh rates are better [10:53] so meaning : it is installed then? im using ubuntu desktop 7.10 [10:53] ikonia : so meaning it is installed already in ubuntu desktop 7.10? [10:53] macogw: Sweet, thanks [10:54] Kalamansi: dhcp-server is not installed on the desktop [10:54] ikonia : so i will install ubuntu server 7.10 you mean? [10:54] dag winkeltje [10:55] Kalamansi: no ???? [10:55] ty, but still recieved sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg error code 1 [10:55] Kalamansi: look - what do you want to do [10:55] Doesn anyone else have a weird blinking marker in some apps? In FF, for example, my marker seems to have an extra line to the right, close to the top of it. [10:55] Kalamansi: server install is command line only. probably not what you want. just go system > admin > synaptic and click somewhere in the left part with the names and start typing dhcp and itll scroll down. check the box for dhcp-server and hit apply [10:56] CroX, its probably indicating which direction you are typing in [10:56] say yay for me.... remove purge | rm all files from within | install [10:56] NoorulIslaam: Ahh, that must be it. [10:56] now for apache2 [10:57] macogw : installing it now. [10:57] ikonia : macogw : how to install iptables? [10:57] Kalamansi: come on......... [10:57] Kalamansi: macogw has just told you how to install a package [10:58] Kalamansi: how do you think you install it [10:58] so why won't apache2 start?? any suggestions [10:58] tyler_d: apache2ctl configtest [10:58] ikonia : sorry been sleep less for 4 days now [10:59] Kalamansi: so ? [10:59] Kalamansi: iptables cant be not installed. nothing really works without it. it's what routes everything to do with everything. [10:59] Kalamansi: if your too tired to be able to communicate then stop work, log off and come back when you are awake === GazzaK is now known as Gary [10:59] im not good in console thats why i prefer to use ubuntu 7.10 desktop with x window [10:59] Kalamansi: your using the desktop version [10:59] Kalamansi: so there is no problem [11:00] ikonia : no..i really need ubuntu server running because i want to block all video streaming , youtube etc..and monitor my workstations..what website they are visiting if its illegal ill block it..and monitor the logs === schueler is now known as benpicco [11:00] Kalamansi: you don't need a serer to that [11:00] Kalamansi: you don't need the server install to do that [11:00] macogw,what was the revert command again? [11:01] I m trying to install cervisia CVS software but during installation I am getting the error of dependency of kammoddo and gettext files ... So what i have to do? [11:01] ikonia : do i need to install iptables.dev? [11:01] sd32_: its not a revert command. you just put whatever window manager you want to run fullowed by --replace [11:01] done installing iptables [11:01] Kalamansi: no [11:01] thanks [11:01] sd32_: default for gnome is metacity, default for kde is kwin, the compositing one is compiz [11:01] can you teach me ikonia how to block youtube? [11:01] I have a prblem with my ATI Readdon graphics card [11:01] and monitor the logs of my workstation [11:01] macogw, thanks again [11:02] so that i could block illegal websites they are visiting [11:02] speed: what card, and what problem. I had one too... [11:02] and block irc too [11:02] Kalamansi: for irc, block outbound port 6667 [11:02] hrmm.. ok, so I have joomla installed on here with everything else, when I browse to the correct path, I am asked to download a file? shouldn't be so... the file is a phtml file? any suggestions? [11:02] Kalamansi: install firestarter [11:02] macogw: its already installed firestarter [11:03] macogw: "Unknown option: phigh" [11:03] what else macogw ? [11:03] tyler_d: you need to install php [11:03] Kalamansi: and you can configure it. set the outbound setting to block all, then if you watch it, you can see what traffic inside your network is trying to get out. what you want to let out, allow [11:03] lokpest: --phigh ? did you remember the --? [11:03] ikonia: have 5 installed, maybe I will get 4 just to see? [11:03] lokpest: er wait maybe it's 1 - [11:03] macogw : by looking in graphical firestarter config?i can see the logs? [11:03] tyler_d: why get 4 ? [11:03] tyler_d: if you have 5 instralled [11:03] ikonia: ok [11:04] lokpest: sorry, it's only 1 dash [11:04] ok [11:04] Kalamansi: you can see firewall logs, yes [11:04] wait it seem that i might have a backup after all.. [11:04] Kalamansi: every time someone tries to get in or out, firestarter shows it [11:05] macogw: okay.so do i need to install squid too? [11:05] Tyczek : I have a readdon x800 graphics card but if I limited the driver does enable the 3d support is still not [11:05] macogw: or just firestarter? [11:05] Kalamansi: you cant see past ones, just whats happening now [11:05] Kalamansi: firestarter is just for blocking ports, so you can block irc port 6667 [11:05] speed, you're using Ati binary drivers? [11:05] Kalamansi: squid would let you do stuff like block youtube but allow other sites, i believe, but i dont know how to configure it. youd have to check the internet [11:05] macogw : how about blocking torrents and youtube and other illegal websites? [11:06] Kalamansi: youtube's not illegal... [11:06] Tyczek : I did not know that! [11:06] Kalamansi: torrents use all kinds of different ports. you cant block them individually. thats why i said set firestarter to block *everything* then just open up what is absolutely necessary [11:06] its illegal macogw here.i have 4mbps connection.and 40 users who use internet..i dont want other users to view youtube coz it down speed our internet [11:07] speed: install binary (if from repo didn't support your card) you have to install from site... [11:07] I m trying to install cervisia CVS software but during installation I am getting the error of dependency of kammoddo and gettext files ... So what i have to do? [11:07] macogw : like what port of torrents?like utorrent [11:07] I installed and typed in terminal aticonfig --initiall [11:07] Kalamansi: ok that'd be "against policy" not illegal...unless you're in...idk....i cant even think of a country that would ban it [11:07] then restarted [11:07] Kalamansi: utorrent? thats just a client [11:07] macogw: our connection will slow if 5 to 7 users will view toutube =/ [11:07] Kalamansi: torrents use any old port in a high range, basically. close all ports. all of them. then open only what is needed [11:08] speed, do u know how to do that? [11:08] macogw : like what "all ports" start with what port? [11:08] Kalamansi: firestarter has an option called "whitelist" for outbound [11:08] i changed my monitor settings on my thinkpad to have a second monitor...now it freezes if i want to set it back...anything i could try? [11:08] Kalamansi: every single port there is, from 0 to infinity. [11:08] ikonia: still I feel this has to do with that apache2 will not run [11:08] tyler_d: for the love of god [11:09] i thought there is a graphic safe mode or something [11:09] tyler_d: how many times [11:09] Kalamansi: i dont know how high the numbers go. if you use whitelist, then all outbound traffic is blocked except what you explicitly allow [11:09] tyler_d: 1.) is apache running [11:09] tyler_d: 2.) do you have php5 installed [11:09] apache1 is running... php5 is installed === Tyczek is now known as Tyczek|afk [11:09] tyler_d: right - so why is this to do with "apache not running" [11:09] apache2 is not running.... [11:09] brasero or gnomebaker??? what's the deal? [11:09] ikonia: he wants apache2 not 1 [11:10] which firewall is most popular now???? [11:10] tyler_d: I JUST asked you if apache 2 was running and you said yes [11:10] macogw: I know [11:10] Jordan_U: Bug report #177434 logged. Not sure how to attach the screenshot though :( [11:10] ownlinux: there's only one on linux. iptables. [11:10] Tyczek : Ok, the graphics card works. Thank you [11:10] I just told you that apache was running... not apache2 [11:10] tyler_d: you've got both installed ? [11:10] tyler_d: why do you have both installed [11:10] any one here run ubuntu server [11:10] Guarddog?? [11:10] macogw : done installing firestarter.thats all?no more script to add? (tho im not good in script) [11:10] ikonia: what i asked [11:10] rcomalta___: yes [11:10] ownlinux: not a firewall. just a gui to configure iptables [11:10] Guarddog is a firewall too [11:11] speed, excellent :] [11:11] ikonia can i do ubuntu server with icons [11:11] bye [11:11] ownlinux: no it's not [11:11] rcomalta___: do you mean have a desktop on it ? [11:11] oh~~~ thank for telling me [11:11] yes [11:11] brasero or gnomebaker? is there a clear winner? [11:11] rcomalta___: you can, but it quite defeats the object [11:11] I didn't intentionally install apache1, I did however attempt to install and run apache2 [11:11] macogw: thank you [11:11] apache2 will not run [11:11] tyler_d: if apache is running apache2 cannot start [11:11] ownlinux: when you use guarddog, it generates a set of iptables rules based on what you choose [11:11] sups [11:12] ikonia: will it not show any errors? [11:12] ikonia what sens quite defeats the objects [11:12] how about KMyFirewall? [11:12] tyler_d: how are you tryinng to start it [11:12] rcomalta___: why do you want a gui environment [11:13] hi , i m a ubutu rookie, how can i install full rkward ? [11:13] macogw: im a stundent i love ubuntu very much, [11:13] etc/init.d/apache2 start [11:13] ikonia becouse i am rely biginer on text only i need gui [11:13] tyler_d: sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop [11:13] i do 15 years work over windows server [11:13] tyler_d: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start [11:13] I am already root [11:13] tyler_d: why/how are you root [11:13] ssh [11:14] ownlinux: also just configures iptables. same with firestarter. they all just configure iptables. firestarter's the easiest to use [11:14] tyler_d: ssh is nothing to do with root [11:14] macogw: get it ~~~thank you so much [11:14] viking09, Ahh, I thought you were using update-manager, that is at least more reasonable of a prompt given that you were using apt-get [11:14] ikonia: you asked how I was root.... I am ssh'd into the box and sudo -s 'd [11:15] tyler_d: it seems like your just doing your own thing [11:15] pardon? [11:15] Jordan_U, just carry on? [11:15] tyler_d: look, stop apache1 - start apache2 [11:15] tyler_d: php5 is installed into apache2 - [11:15] viking09, Also, why did you paste the output that you did? The error you posted is just because you have / had another package manager running [11:15] ikonia [11:15] rcomalta___: yes [11:15] i need to dawnlod 2 ver to make it gui [11:15] macogw: "xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration [11:15] file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071219120351" [11:16] ikonia: I have stopped apache1 [11:16] ps -ef confirmed stopped [11:16] ikonia: ./apache2 start produces nothing, and does not start [11:16] is there a way to boot in graphic safe mode even on a installed ubuntu? [11:16] Jordan_U, saw some feedback on a previous bug, output requested (#154125 - closed, not enough information) [11:16] lokpest: is that from running the reconfigure command? it's supposed to overwrite that with the changes you made [11:16] * viking09 NooB [11:17] macogw: www.ownlinux.cn that is my blog about ubuntu linux,would u tell some good website that i can get the info about ubuntu at first [11:17] macogw: well, I put that into a terminal [11:17] viking09, Ok, were you using update-manager when you had this problem or were you using apt-get directly from a terminal? [11:17] mabye i have to ctrl alt f1? [11:17] Jornda_U: update manager [11:18] lokpest: i mean the dpkg-reconfigure.... command i gave you overwrites xorg.conf to give you the config you picked, so yeah its fine to let it overwrite. you want it to. log out and log back in agian to see changes [11:18] macogw: could u tell me ???thanks [11:18] ok, here goes nothing [11:19] is there a way to boot into graphic safe mode on boot? [11:19] ownlinux: wiki.ubuntu.com [11:19] i mean news about ubuntu linux [11:19] Hi... the topic says flash is broken... Is it possible to install it manually? [11:19] apologies, I had to just go to anwer the phone [11:19] rcomalta___: I missed your question [11:20] ikonia [11:20] i am dawloding server ver [11:20] tyler_d: do you understand the solution I gave you ? [11:20] rcomalta___: ok [11:20] to make gui i need to dawnlod the desktop ver allsaw [11:20] rcomalta___: no, you'll need to install the Xorg/Desktop package through the package managment [11:20] that php5 only runs on apache2 and apache2 and one cannot be running at the same time [11:20] ok [11:20] tyler_d: correct, excellent [11:21] viking09, OK, you should make that clear, you should also clarify that you gave that output since it was requested of the person who filed the previous bug report ( you possibly should have actually just replied to that bug report ) and you should re-post the output of that command AFTER you close update-manager or any other package managers ( if you have closed all other package managers you should not get the error that yo [11:21] u did ) [11:21] now [11:21] rcomalta___: you can install a gui in the server edition with apt [11:21] apache2 will not start.... [11:21] tyler_d: not while apache1 is running [11:21] apache1 is not running [11:21] :) [11:21] tyler_d: apache2ctl configtest [11:22] Jordan_U: Fair enough, will do better next time. Thanks. [11:22] hello [11:22] viking09, Thank you for helping make Ubuntu better by reporting bugs :) [11:22] returns that /etc/apache2/apache2.conf is not accessable [11:22] ownlinux: oh news? umm....idk if you just look on linux.com you're bound to see some [11:23] tyler_d: so - thats an error, and it's telling you the problem [11:23] tyler_d: what part is not clear [11:23] it update is not fast [11:24] q: apt-get remove --purge apache2 [11:24] then apt-get install apache2 -- will that recreate the defaults? [11:24] tyler_d: why do you want the defaults [11:24] tyler_d: what have you done to the others [11:25] I have only copied one directory into the others [11:25] tyler_d: which directory and why ? [11:25] i am running testdisk, and it finds the damaged fat32 partition (it doesnt let me view any of the files, it says its damaged) [11:25] joomla into /var/www/ [11:25] what is the best way to go about fixing it [11:25] tyler_d: then thats nothing to do with the conf file it's complaining about [11:26] ok [11:27] no more errors, still will not start [11:27] staykovmarin: just out of curiosity.. did you install testdisk from the 7.04 live cd? or the package dvd? [11:27] tyler_d: what does apache2ctl configtest give you [11:28] tyler_d: start reporting things properly, you've said no more errors about 5 times and yet there are still errors [11:28] Slart: i downloaded, and transfered it using my mp3 player [11:28] using 127.0.0.1 for Servername Syntax OK [11:28] staykovmarin: ok, thanks [11:28] tyler_d: ok - so it's binding to 127 only [11:28] tyler_d: how are you viewing your site [11:29] ikonia: which is fine for initial configuration [11:29] tyler_d: how are you viewing your site [11:29] ikonia: 127.0.0.1 [11:29] i changed my graphic card settings on my laptop now its a low resolution and it freezes when i try to access the graphic card settings [11:29] tyler_d: and what do you get when you visit 127.0.0.1 [11:30] is there a way to start into the save graphic mode? [11:30] ikonia: if it won't start ie. not listed in ps -ef then obviously nothing is showing in 127.0.0.1 [11:30] tyler_d: why do you think it won't start [11:30] ikonia: b/c if it started it would be listed as a process [11:30] tyler_d: apache2ctl stop [11:30] staykovmarin: there seems to some info here http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk [11:30] ikonia: and if I stopped it it wouln't come back with no pid [11:31] tyler_d: apache2ctl stop [11:31] staykovmarin: they even have recovery examples on that wiki [11:31] httpd (no pid file) not running [11:31] tyler_d: ok - apache2ctl start [11:32] always when i want to start the graphic card config it freezes [11:32] it cant be that i have to reinstall my whole laptop because of this [11:32] now that gave some errors [11:32] tyler_d: right, what are they [11:32] no listening sockets available? [11:33] tyler_d: apache1 is still running [11:33] Slart: yeah i am looking at it, i just dont really know which one is my problem even [11:33] no [11:33] tyler_d: it has to be, or another webserver, or something listening on port 80 [11:33] staykovmarin: you upgraded and the partition is gone, right? [11:33] netstat -an | grep ":80" [11:33] nothing returned [11:34] tyler_d: http has a port named ! [11:34] Slart: yes [11:34] tyler_d: that will never return anything [11:34] tyler_d: netstat -a | grep http [11:34] i think it might have been resized [11:34] Slart: i see a fat32 partition in there, and i cant list the files, it says partition damaged [11:35] nothing returned by http either [11:35] staykovmarin: resized? you chose this during the upgrade? or it did it by itself? [11:36] tyler_d: have you looked in the apache2 log files for more details on the error [11:36] tyler_d: I'd also remove apache1 to remove any confussion or issues at autostart boot time [11:36] ok [11:36] Slart: i chose it during upgrade, 200 gigs to my new partition and the other information to be resized to the other 200 gigs of the drive [11:37] during install* sorry [11:37] tyler_d: I have to leave now, but for future, make sure you report errors factually, and report the situation not what you think [11:37] on a final note, how do I force the dpkg to rebuild the structure [11:38] staykovmarin: ah.. so you did a new install.. not an upgrade.. and created a new partition by moving the existing partitions towards the end of the drive.. and this somehow killed one of the partitions? [11:38] yes i think so [11:38] I need to install edubuntu on 100 machines of same config, can I use Ghost to copy the disk image to all the machines once I install it on one machine? [11:38] staykovmarin: strange.. I've always thought the ubuntu installer was pretty good with these things.. never had it mess up like this. [11:39] i think the exsisting partition is in the begging of the drive though [11:39] ScorpFromHell: lol use a OEM disc [11:39] ScorpFromHell: i mean use alternate disc [11:39] i am thinking of trying to recover it by removing the new partition. do you think that will work? [11:39] staykovmarin: ok.. were you able to run testdisk? did it create a log? could you pastebin the log? [11:40] ScorpFromHell: then select the [11:40] OEM [11:40] Jay-On-En, what does that do? OEM? Am sorry, never tried it. [11:40] ikonia: in the future I appreciate the help, however the questions asked are whats important, not where you feel like treasure hunting, the fact still remains that I have talked to you for 30 minutes and still have exactly the same problem as when I started. [11:41] Slart: where is the log stored? [11:41] nvm i found it [11:41] good morning linux enthusiasts [11:42] good morning [11:42] Jay-Oh-En, what does that do? OEM? Am sorry, never tried it. :( [11:44] i just updated to this kernel (2.6.22-14-powerpc)and i think it changed the drivers for y zd1211rw, because before update i had to disconnect and recconect so it would work, this time it worked straight without having to disconnect and reconnect. [11:44] hi. [11:45] Jay-On-En, Edubuntu does not have a OEM option :( [11:45] after rebooting my network card changed its name from eth0 to eth1, how can I rename it to eth0? [11:45] ScorpFromHell: you enter in the settings you want and it saves them so you can use them over and over [11:45] rgl: I think it's in one of the udev-rules [11:46] hey guys...anybody knows how can i "install" a new splash screen? i get this strange error..... http://dpaste.com/28528/ [11:47] Slart: http://www.pastebin.org/12131 [11:47] rgl: check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, it's a text file owned by root.. so gksudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules should do it [11:47] ScorpFromHell: http://edubuntu.com/gettingstarted read that [11:47] i am looking for somebody to guide me through the creation and running of a live CD for ubuntu [11:47] Slart, thats it. thx! :-) [11:48] rgl: you're welcome [11:48] Moult: what OS are you on [11:48] windo0ws [11:48] <_ruben> having troubles compiling klips support into the kernel .. make-kpkg is acting strangely .. any ideas? .. http://pastebin.ca/823456 [11:48] ok [11:49] Joy-Oh-En, Edubuntu does not have oem option, I have checked the link [11:49] Moult: im going to pm you [11:49] ScorpFromHell: just to let you know you can auto complete my name using tab [11:49] jay_oh_en: i haven't received anything, i don't know why some people have problems pmming me. try joining #moult [11:49] ScorpFromHell: did you read everything there [11:50] Moult: did you get that pm [11:50] ? [11:50] Jay-Oh-En, I guess I did read that :( [11:50] ScorpFromHell: hmmm hold on [11:52] Hey. [11:53] staykovmarin: did you try listing the files in the found fat32 partition using testdisk? [11:53] yes [11:53] that said that it was currup [11:53] corrup* [11:53] No file found, filesystem damaged [11:53] exit [11:53] staykovmarin: it didn't offer any other options after that? [11:53] quit [11:53] Jay-Oh-En, I guess OEM doesn't suit me here :( I need to install Edubuntu on a 100 machines! [11:54] no [11:54] Jay-Oh-En, I just finished reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview [11:54] have you been to channel #edubuntu [11:55] staykovmarin: well.. I don't think I can do you any good.. I don't see any obvious solutions.. is the data lost valuable enough to send the drive to one of those data-rescue-companies? [11:56] its pretty valuable, but i cant afford that [11:57] /quit [11:58] anyone here have a ipod? Because I'm trying to figure out what when I use Banshee the app see's my Ipod but when i try to remove any songs or Podcasts from the ipod it when I disconnect it and use it the tracks are still there. [11:58] Anyone know of a good off-site internet-based backup service? [11:58] hello, I've just bought a small adaptor to convert PS2 to USB, so I can use an old PS2 keyboard in my laptop. However the keyboard does not work. Also if I use a ps2 mouse, the mouse gets light (optical mouse) but does not work either. The keyboard does not even show the lights of locks. What am I missing? [11:59] dmesg says nothing [11:59] Guillem: what does the x.org log say ? [12:00] dadehoog, I've not restarted X.org... [12:00] I've had that combination working perfectly in the past (without issue and with a KVM switch in the middle) [12:00] KVM? [12:00] Guillem: give that a whirl ... just to give it a(nother) chance to re-detect the change in hardware ... or does dmesg indicate that the usb device hasn't been found ? [12:00] hullo everyone. How can I find out what process is causing GDM (or more probably X itself) to crash? What log file? More detailed description follows. [12:01] dadehoog, dmesg does not say absolutely anything [12:01] kauer: ~.xerrors and /var/log/x.org.log [12:02] Guillem: try and restart X, if it's not recognising a USB hotplug, then maybe it needs to use the psaux driver - but doesn't know it yet ..? [12:02] Guillem: well it should acknowledge when you plug a working usb device such as the usb<>ps2 thing [12:03] I start Feisty, get to the greeter screen, put in my name and password. The startup screen happens, I am prompted form my keyring password and my ssh passphrase, then the screen clears to my background colour. If I do nothing, that is about it. The grey task bars, minus their icons, is as far as it gets. Then one of two things happens. Either it stays they, unchanging, with a visible, movable mouse cursor that is otherwise unresponsive, OR it returns to t [12:03] dadehoog, erUSUL ; it does recognize the USB mouse when I plug unplug it, and I see messages in dmesg. But when the mouse is a ps2 with the adaptor it does not [12:03] dadehoog, erUSUL it is like being the real hardware PS2, the usb system does not work... [12:05] Guillem: and you've not used a PS2 device with the system before ? just try restarting X, if no joy, we'll think again ... [12:05] kauer: have you recently installed any updates ? [12:06] kauer: it might be worth checking your repositories, and then checking that the ubuntu-desktop package is _completely_ installed ... [12:06] dadehoog, I restarted X and the system with the keyboard, It did not work. Even does not work at the bios stage.... [12:06] hello, whats the scoop on ubuntu 7.10 [12:07] Guillem: very odd ... are you sure that a) the keyboard/mouse work, and b) the adapter works ? [12:07] Hi [12:07] dadehoog, I don't know if the adapter works. [12:07] hi... im running gutsy now.. and im planing to reformat my windows xp.. how can i install the grub back or install lilo after reformating windows [12:07] dadehoog, the mouse works because I used it yesterday at a PS2 computer. [12:07] !grub | alain [12:07] does anyone know what technology Dell is using to allow DVD playback in the new Ubuntu desktops? [12:07] alain: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [12:07] dadehoog, the keyboard worked months ago and has not had any kind of accident I am aware of [12:08] quick question, is intel core 2 duo cpu 64 bit? i mostly have AMD cpus.. [12:08] corruptionoflulz: C2D is 64 bit [12:08] corruptionoflulz, core2 duo is 64bit [12:08] corruptionoflulz, core duo not afaik [12:08] the old Core Duo isn't [12:08] antitab: I'd imagine, they've paid commercial (ie. exhorbitant) rates to get license keys ... (the same thing that libdvdcss does - only they paid for it) [12:08] thanks, that explains why my friend was having problems, wrong iso xD [12:09] i put ubutun server but is not boot up why [12:09] dadehoog: yes, but they must be using a custom proprietary library === dsl_ is now known as lukewarm [12:09] I'm wondering if tehre [12:09] Guillem: if it's not working before GRUB, it sounds like a hardware issue ... perhaps check that the BIOS will assign irqs to PS2 devices ? [12:09] * lukewarm looks into the distance [12:09] there's any further info* [12:09] antitab: yes, purchased at vast cost - the same way as all windows-based players [12:09] hello does beryl exist anymore? [12:09] !beryl [12:09] Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion. New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz [12:09] dadehoog, any pointer to this "assign irqs to PS2 devices" ? I don't really know what I should look for... [12:10] dadehoog: I'm just wondering where they got it [12:10] !compiz [12:10] Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion [12:10] fluendo? [12:10] Guillem: as long as the BIOS seems to be managing IRQ assignments ... it should be ok ... [12:10] not only the descrambling software, but the MPEG-2 and AC-3 decoding software would have to be custom too [12:11] they can't use free software libraries to do that sort of thing [12:11] #debian === netdemon is now known as NeT_DeMoN [12:11] can anyone say that upgrading to ubuntu 7.10 is suggested or not? [12:11] antitab: indeed ... it's obviously been in the pipes for a while ... [12:12] godchaser: if you've got the time and inclination it is worth doing, otherwise if you've got a stable system - I wouldn't feel compelled. [12:12] godchaser: that said, I think Hardy will be worth the upgrade (in April 2008) [12:12] dadehoog, OK, the adapter works: using a usb mouse with the adapter and the other adapter (ps2->usb) works. [12:12] dadehoog, I'm getting crazy with this chain of adapters :P [12:12] Guillem: sorry, say that again ? how many adapters have we got now ? 2 ? [12:13] dadehoog, now 2 to check it works [12:13] <`LePGeL[BoY]> why does my nautilus hangs when mounting drives? [12:13] Anyone know got oracle installed ? [12:13] dadehoog: what do u mean, in april 08? [12:13] dadehoog: thanks for the log file names. They sadly contain only current data. I will take copies and reboot to see if I can see any likely differences. As to updates, many, many! I rarely reboot, but accept most offered updates (only the dud vmware one is still pending, it can pend for ever as far as I am concerned :-). When for some reason I had to reboot - maybe a kernel update? Can't remember) suddenly this problem was there. I have made no changes t === tombacm is now known as Marcika [12:13] dadehoog, I had an adapter which converts USB to PS2 which came with the USB mouse. So I can use the mouse elsewhere [12:13] usb mouse -> (usb->ps2 converter) (ps2->usb converter) -> machine ? [12:13] <`LePGeL[BoY]> why does my nautilus hangs when mounting drives? [12:14] dadehoog, yes [12:14] dadehoog, and works [12:14] Guillem: hah ! that's a monster ... ok, X tries to detect PS2 input devices by default, doesn't it ? [12:14] `LePGeL[BoY]: dont you hate when people dont answer you isnt it a shame [12:15] hello [12:15] all [12:15] <`LePGeL[BoY]> : that just means no one knows [12:15] does anyone know: does compiz-fusion work with emerald or something different, and xmms conpadable with 7.10? [12:15] dadehoog, I don't really know... but my opinion is that the USB mouse can dialog with the USB system at computer. And the PS2 does not [12:15] `LePGeL[BoY]: keep lying to yourself [12:15] whats a messenger i can recieve files on for yahoo because pidgin wont let me accept file transfers [12:16] Jay-Oh-En: got an issue? [12:16] Guillem: well, PS2 devices don't use the USB system ... [12:16] what do you guys recommend for backing up an entire computer so that one can restore it in the event of a wipeout? [12:16] does anyone know: does compiz-fusion work with emerald or something different, and xmms conpadable with 7.10? [12:16] dadehoog, so I guess I should some how tell the USB system that something is there... [12:16] Guillem: technically, they don't _do_ hotplugging ... [12:16] bazhang: lol no [12:16] `LePGeL[BoY]: what drive are you trying to mount? ntfs? fat32? other? [12:16] Guillem: they have to be loaded at boot for them to work ... [12:16] simplyubuntu: partimage? [12:16] godchaser: try #compiz-fusion [12:16] <`LePGeL[BoY]> : im not.. well you can find answers googling.. this is just the easiest alternative [12:16] bazhang: i knew you would come to his rescue [12:16] !info partimage | simplyubuntu [12:16] simplyubuntu: partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-17 (gutsy), package size 268 kB, installed size 944 kB [12:17] dadehoog, I think that there are more advanced adaptors that do this, and the one I've bought is not "active": just "passive" [12:17] `LePGeL[BoY]: you could add some info.. can you mount drives using the command line? are there any errors in syslog? does it hang forever or does it just take extra long to finish? [12:17] <`LePGeL[BoY]> : removable.. cdroms and etc [12:17] will try [12:17] Jay-Oh-En: how about taking the chitchat to #ubuntu-offtopic [12:17] does it offer any compression? [12:17] bazhang: ill just leave since you dont want me here meany [12:17] `LePGeL[BoY]: it crashes everytime? even just opening it to your home folder? [12:17] Guillem: I've just had a look around for mine, and I can't find it ... but I think you're right. but you've rebooted the machine with the adapter in place, booted Ubuntu, and no good, correct ? [12:18] <`LePGeL[BoY]> : its when i see zombie process in my systems monitor.. thats when it hangs.. and it only happens when mounting drives [12:18] dadehoog, for the case of the Keyboard. [12:18] !ie [12:18] For Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidiú Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Béag fáilte ort [12:18] yes ... mice should be able to plug in and 'work' - but not very well. [12:18] any one know a messenger i can recieve file transfers on yahoo from??? [12:18] !internetexplorer [12:18] how do I burn an Audio CD ? [12:18] `LePGeL[BoY]: try answering the rest of the questions [12:18] !fishing | axisys [12:18] axisys: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. [12:19] <`LePGeL[BoY]> : not at the most.. but crashes when opening and closing simultaneously [12:19] `LePGeL[BoY]: check the dmesg maybe your optical drive(s) are failing? [12:19] !info serpentine | tim167 [12:19] tim167: serpentine: An application for creating audio CDs. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 87 kB, installed size 720 kB === susi_ is now known as FUJIKO [12:19] preaction: sorry about that [12:19] !bot ies4linux axisys [12:19] axisys, also you want "ies4linux", google [12:19] dadehoog, I'm going to completely stop the computer and restart it .... [12:19] !ies4linux > axisys (Please see the private messsage from ubotu) [12:19] tim167: you can use one of the gnome apps, or k3b though that will pull in some kde stuff [12:19] see you......... [12:19] Guillem: ok, good luck ... [12:19] preaction: cool thnx [12:20] I take some of my music files off my ipod/usb - then I try to put them back on and it tells me that 'there isn't enough room on the usb' or whatever [12:20] hmm i disconnected [12:20] erUSUL bazhang, i inserted an empty CDrom and it asked if i want to create an audio cd, i confirmed that, but nothing happens, no browser window opens... [12:20] `LePGeL[BoY]: what about what Slart said; mounting things from the command line? any error messages there? [12:20] they are the exact same files that came off the usb. I've even trimmed them down a bit [12:20] babo: have you tried emptying the trash ? [12:21] dadehoog, on the usb ? [12:21] any one know which messenger(if any) i can recieve file transfers on yahoo on?? [12:21] tim167: perhaps open up gnomebaker or serpentine or whatever and try that way? [12:21] NeT_DeMoN: pidgin [12:21] hi, im looking for somebody to guide me through the making and running of a live CD for ubuntu. [12:21] dadehoog, there's no trash folder on the usb - it's completely blank [12:21] tim167: afaik you have to have serpentine installed for that to work (it will lounch serpentine) [12:21] babo: "the trash" on your desktop - you'll likely find that they're there, and the USB has been told to reserve space for them if you remove them from the USB [12:21] brobostigon: it wont let me [12:21] dadehoog: when you delete stuff they are moved to a .Trash folder on the same drive [12:21] <`LePGeL[BoY]> : the error only occurs randomly.. [12:21] i9 think?? [12:21] dadehoog, ah, thanks [12:21] NeT_DeMoN, I was able to use Pidgin to send some phots through file transfer to some Y! Buds [12:21] hello... does anyone know if there is a changelog somewhere for the kernel image packages in ubuntu... my system just upgraded from 2.6.22-14.46 to 2.6.22-14.47 and I'd like to see what changes were made [12:21] <`LePGeL[BoY]> : no errors on terminal mounting [12:21] Slart: indeed [12:22] StFS: kernel.org? [12:22] erUSUL, bazhang: ok thanks i'll figure it out [12:22] StFS: packages.ubuntu.com should have the changes for that package. [12:22] `LePGeL[BoY]: if you do it from the command line, then we'll get the error messages--try some of the things that it has crashed on [12:22] tim167: sudo apt-get install serpentine [12:22] Filled-Void: pidgin wont let me, some one told me i needed to port forward but i dont know how to do that so eh [12:22] erUSUL i want to back up my '/' problem is it wants me to unmount it. [12:22] Slart: as I understand this this wasn't an actual kernel version update... just a packaging update [12:22] StFS: /usr/share/doc/linux-image-X.X.XX-XX-generic/changelog.Debian :) [12:22] how is that possible? [12:22] <`LePGeL[BoY]> : im trying to locate the nautilus-debud file [12:22] www.portforward.com NeT_DeMoN [12:22] NeT_DeMoN, Dont know anything abuot that sorry :( [12:23] dadehoog, Pici: thanks [12:23] `LePGeL[BoY]: okay [12:23] bazhang: thanks [12:23] how do I empty the trash as root ? [12:23] StFS: oh.. then I don't know.. try pici's suggestion [12:23] simplyubuntu: use a livecd (there's even a special livecd on the partimage web site) [12:23] but question, how would port forwardig help me recieve file transfers [12:23] Can anybody help me with ndiswrapper and RTL8187 please? [12:23] ?? [12:23] babo, remove your ~/.Trash folder with sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash [12:23] simplyubuntu: you want to master your own cd? [12:23] babo: I usually "sudo rm" the files manually if I've got root-only deleted styff [12:23] <`LePGeL[BoY]> : any significane on "debug dumped due to signal 11"? [12:23] ah forget it [12:24] `LePGeL[BoY]: let me check... [12:24] hi, im looking for somebody to guide me through the making and running of a live CD for ubuntu. [12:24] how about just making an image of my home partition [12:24] is it safe to unmount the home partition, erUSUL? [12:24] Moult: I can start you off with creating the live CD [12:24] !backup | simplyubuntu [12:24] simplyubuntu: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning [12:24] Do files in var/cache/apt/archives/ get removed after a certain amount of time? [12:24] * NeT_DeMoN is cold, needs his hoodie :) [12:24] hi [12:24] Moult: there is a good guide on the wiki [12:24] Moult: start by downloading the iso file you want [12:24] <`LePGeL[BoY]> : ok.. [12:24] how to play 3d chess [12:24] slart: i have done that [12:25] hello my pc2 cannot internet...im using pc1 (ubuntu server 7.10) and i can internet... modem ---> server ubuntu ---Switch---workstation (pc2) [12:25] Moult: ok, burn the image to a CD [12:25] pawan: wrong channel for that [12:25] pawan, You could try brutal chess or install the 3d packages required for gnuchess [12:25] pawan: you have to install some python opengl extensions for 3d chess to work [12:25] pawan, Brutal chess logic is not up to the mark [12:25] Kalamansi: is the pc1 configured to share internet? [12:26] how to install [12:26] slart: hmmm well i also heard that some other packages were needed [12:26] !who | pawan [12:26] pawan: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [12:26] erUSUL: how? [12:26] pawan: forgive me i misunderstood [12:26] ok [12:26] Moult: packages? what for? [12:26] slart: i have absolutly no idea. [12:27] pawan: i use add/remove programs for that [12:27] slart: right now i'm having trouble just opening my computer [12:27] erUSUL : pc1 have internet now (im using it now) but pc have no internet (dhcp obtain) [12:27] Moult: ok.. don't worry about the extra packages then.. just burn the image to a cd [12:27] pawan: its the first program under apps [12:27] erUSUL: rj45 is working well [12:27] slart: do i need special software? [12:27] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/153382 `LePGeL[BoY] this is a bug that has been filed; not sure when the fix will come through--best to kill the running nautilus processes when it happens though [12:27] Kalamansi: there are many how to's out there basically enable ip forwarding look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing [12:28] Moult: ok.. let's start at the beginning.. you have a working computer, right? with a cd-burner? with windows? [12:28] slart: yes [12:28] <`LePGeL[BoY]> bazhang: that was what im wondering.. an ubuntu nautilus bug.. thanx.. [12:28] bazhang: on the port forwarding thing, what if you dont actually "own" the router [12:28] its the plain chess [12:28] Moult: ok.. what version of windows? xp? 2000? vista? [12:29] NeT_DeMoN: talk nicely to the administrator [12:29] NeT_DeMoN: then you are sol [12:29] slart: xp [12:29] erUSUL how about Simple Backup Suite? [12:29] dadehoog: what do you mean? [12:29] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite [12:29] Moult: do you have some kind of cd burning software? nero perhaps? [12:29] bazhang: ok, thanks for trying [12:29] if it's not your router and you can't configure it, talk nicely to the admin - maybe they will set it up for you ? [12:30] NeT_DeMoN: no worries :} [12:30] slart: i shall have to check, right now the windows explorer is behaving nastily weird [12:30] erUSUL: how to know if im using th01 or etho0? [12:30] pawan, If Brutalchess is fine then you can install it by using the command sudo apt-get install brutalchess [12:30] dadehoog: ahh, ide rather just download another messenger because the owners dont even have control, they lost the disc before they flashed their hard drive [12:30] dadehoog (or anyone) do the other symptoms suggest anything? Are there any other ways to find out what is killing X? [12:30] slart: yes i have nero [12:30] Moult: You can burn ISO images (which is how the Ubuntu download is formatted) with this tool in Windows XP: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm [12:31] Moult: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto , scroll down to XP / Server 2003 / Vista: ISO Recorder [12:31] Moult: ok... in nero there is an option somewhere to "burn image".. Use that to burn the iso-image of ubuntu to a cd [12:32] Pici: that should be in a factoid, imho =) [12:32] erUSUL ive decided just to make an archive of my home folder [12:32] what format do you recommend? [12:33] bazhang: are you an admin here or something, you are always here and know like everything [12:33] Slart: its in the !burning one, I just pulled out the stuff I wanted. [12:33] slart: there is burn image to disc [12:33] NeT_DeMoN: (functional) routers usually have their own firmware and a web interface ... if it's working, the owner should be able to reconfigure it regardless of the state of their hard disk drive [12:33] Moult: ok, make sure there is a empty cd in the drive, select the ubuntu iso and burn away [12:33] dadehoog: even if the routers not installed on their computer?? [12:33] guys [12:33] ive never met anyone in real life who used ubuntu [12:34] hi JasonBourne [12:34] hello [12:34] NeT_DeMoN: haha I wish :} [12:34] NeT_DeMoN: computers do "routing" and lots of other stuff, routers ONLY do "routing" and are usually separate little boxes [12:34] JasonBourne: well every one here uses it :) [12:34] hello anyone? [12:34] simplyubuntu: hello [12:34] i am the only person i have met in real life that uses ubuntu too. [12:34] dadehoog: ok [12:34] whats the best format for archiving large files? [12:35] JasonBourne: start passing out those ubuntu cd's :} [12:35] echo hello slart [12:35] bazhang: lol [12:35] simplyubuntu: bzip? gzip? tar.zip? rar? 7zip? [12:35] simplyubuntu: how large? [12:35] bazhang hold it [12:35] im just checking [12:35] 15.1 gb [12:35] hey guys [12:35] hey billy [12:35] what is the terminal command to find the specs of the computer? [12:35] are there any admins for this place? [12:36] billy: lspci, lsusb, lshw (needs install) [12:36] NeT_DeMoN: Yes, there are. [12:36] thanks [12:36] bazhang? === greedo__ is now known as greedo [12:36] yes simplyubuntu [12:36] Pici: know who they are?? [12:36] the file size is 15.1 gb bazhang... [12:36] i know thats huge.... [12:36] NeT_DeMoN: I imagine he does ... [12:37] NeT_DeMoN: he is one.. :} [12:37] NeT_DeMoN: I'm an operator here, do you have a question? [12:37] oh wow [12:37] anyone here use ibm lpar's? [12:37] lista [12:37] ark34: lpar's ? [12:37] simplyubuntu: I'd go with multi-file rar.. for that warez-look we all want =) [12:37] simplyubuntu: not at all--how are you going to get it over? burn it to dvd's? mount a hdd? usbkey? [12:38] Pici: would you happen to be able to help me with my sound problems or do i need another channel?? [12:38] Pici: its the driver itself [12:38] how to install java? [12:38] ahhh why is it so hard to install linux and get all the drivers working :'(!! [12:38] Kalamansi: you will have to guess; you can check the conf of both nicks of the server... the one attached to the modem will be fully configured... [12:38] billy: which ones? [12:38] billy: mostly because of nasty hardware manufacturers.. but most of the stuff just works out of the box [12:38] !java | khelll_ [12:38] khelll_: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre [12:38] im struggling to get my fujitsu amilo li 1705 display driver to function properly [12:39] nope [12:39] bazhang im archiving it directly to a backup partition of 40gb [12:39] i dont even know the exact make/model/manufacturer of my graphics card which doesnt help, and to add to that im a complete linux noob [12:39] :D [12:39] hallo ? [12:39] Pici: and another thing, is ikiona an admin because she acts like it? [12:40] <-------- need help with Xchat [12:40] Me too [12:40] <-------- pls qry for help me with Xchat ;) [12:40] billy: try lspci and see if there is a graphics card in there.. that will give you some more info [12:40] does anyone use network-manager-pptp to create vpn connection in Ubuntu Gutsy? [12:40] bazhang did you get that? [12:40] billy: is that a laptop or a desktop? the driver is the video driver, yes? [12:40] !ask | HiHi2021 [12:40] HiHi2021: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [12:40] NeT_DeMoN: Sorry, little busy here... [12:40] simplyubuntu: yup [12:40] Myrtti: I have done ... [12:40] Pici: no worries [12:40] multifile rar eh? [12:40] !sound | NeT_DeMoN [12:40] NeT_DeMoN: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [12:41] arent those a bit confusing? [12:41] unknown device :( [12:41] yay i just burnt the iso...now what? [12:41] erUSUL: that wont help, already tried :) [12:41] dadehoog: do you remember the plugin or vpn altogether been updated since release of gutsy? [12:41] cant i just tar (or something like that) it to one big archive? [12:41] cause space is not an issue [12:41] billy: is ubuntu installed on it now? the latest 7.10 or earlier? [12:41] simplyubuntu: confusing? I don't know how they are confusing.. but sure.. use zip/bzip/gzip with tar then.. [12:41] What should I do when Add/Remove applications is giving me this error: This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'xchat' the conflicting software must be removed first. [12:41] Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict. [12:41] 7.04 [12:41] !intelhda | NeT_DeMoN [12:41] NeT_DeMoN: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto [12:42] Myrtti: sorry ? I only tried it after Gutsy was released, but it all worked at that point ... [12:42] Moult: ok, leave the cd in the drive and restart the computer [12:42] bazhang, 7.04, i couldnt get the graphics card to work at all on anything higher [12:42] ok Slart. ill try that. will let you guys know. [12:42] Moult: make sure it's set to boot from the cd drive [12:42] RoBz18: go to System>Admin>synaptic [12:42] <__rcomalta___> any one on ubutu run web server and ftp server [12:42] __rcomalta___: yup [12:42] billy: so you are on it now? what does lspci say in the terminal about that card (just tell me don't paste it here) [12:42] <__rcomalta___> hi slart on wich ver ubutu server or desctop [12:42] slart: uh, make sure it's set to boot from cd...isn't that auto? [12:42] erUSUL: tried that too [12:42] dadehoog: okay, there seems to be something broken here, all the settings seem to be fine, but the vpn account is grayed out on network-manager when using mobile dialup... [12:42] __rcomalta___: desktop, 64bit [12:43] RoBz18, there's two versions of xchat. xchat and xchat-gnome. Run the synaptic package manager to install the version of xchat you want. [12:43] <__rcomalta___> ok [12:43] Jowi: do you know main difference between those 2 xchats ? [12:43] bazhang, im assuming its the VGA controller, says VIA technologies, unknown device [12:43] Moult: you can set it in bios.. usually it's already set to boot from cd.. give it a try.. if it isn't set you'll just be back in windows [12:43] by the way. what does 'slashdotted' mean? [12:44] slart: ok restarting...i hope i don't mess up the computer [12:44] crushin[A], xchat is what I use and like. xchat-gnome has gnome integration and looks different (different menus and options mostly) [12:44] simplyubuntu: linked to a really popular site that creates so much traffic the server/network can't handle it [12:44] billy: it's a fujitsu 1710 desktop? sorry I wasn't paying attention [12:44] simplyubuntu: that an article with a link to a site is published on slashdot.. and then 500 million geeks look at that link and then the server for that site dies [12:44] Myrtti: I think that's a pretty common issue ... [12:44] I am having no luck getting the Framebuffer to work on Ubuntu does anyone know anything about this kind of thing? [12:44] bazhang, a fujitsu amilo li 1705 notebook [12:44] crushin[A], they are quite similar but for some reason xchat-gnome annoys me to death. [12:44] Myrtti: with a simple solution ... but I can't remember it off-hand ... [12:44] i see [12:45] but why would a server die? [12:45] Myrtti: hand on a tick ... [12:45] NeT_DeMoN: what sound card do you have? [12:45] i mean... why? [12:45] dadehoog: seems that the dialup even isn't the only reason [12:45] slart: ok, now how do i start from the live CD? i don't want to install to my HD yet [12:45] simplyubuntu, see it as a traffic-jam [12:45] jowi, crushin[A]: xchat-gnome has for some reason hidden lots of the advanced settings.. but the gui is nicer.. [12:45] dadehoog: sure [12:45] erUSUL: Tried using synaptics, gives me this error: The following packages have unresolvable dependencies.... [12:45] slart: i am at a menu which says start or install ubuntu, start ubuntu in safe graphics mode, etc [12:45] erUSUL: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) [12:45] Moult: it starts from the live cd automatically..nothing will be installed unless you want it to [12:45] RoBz18: what are those packages?... [12:46] xchat: [12:46] Depends: tcl8.4 (>=8.4.5) but it is not installable [12:46] Moult: press start/install.. it will just start the ubuntu live cd [12:46] NeT_DeMoN: alsamixer on terminal works? [12:46] Slart, i get this error with tar.bz2 http://pastebin.com/m6f712b34 [12:46] slart: ok loading [12:46] slart: quite slow but probably because i'm running from the CD [12:46] erUSUL: tried, their all turned up [12:46] Moult: this step will take a while.. it reads stuff into memory etc [12:47] RoBz18: check on System>Admin>Software sources tha all boxes are checked on the first tab [12:47] Moult: it's faster if it's installed to the hard drive [12:47] erUSUL: i've had numerous people attempt to help me [12:47] Myrtti: I just got it working on my laptop - that quickly ... anything in the pptp client FAQ ? [12:47] slart: i'm at a screen with a logo ubuntu and a bouncing orange bar [12:47] bazhang, i think my card is (from research) a VIA VN896 [12:47] NeT_DeMoN: :S [12:47] simplyubuntu: what command did you run? [12:47] no command [12:47] Moult: that's the loading screen [12:47] slart: i guessed lol [12:47] just right clicked on the folder etc [12:48] Moult =) [12:48] i know the command to use but have no faith in myself as i screw shit up all the time [12:48] slart: it's my first time trying out a distro that isn't 50mb in size i'm just a bit jumpy [12:48] simplyubuntu: ok.. what did you paste from? and what did you do before you those errors