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Dr_willis!java | Tiktalik00:00
ubottuTiktalik: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.00:00
Tiktalikthanks Dr_willis00:02
Dr_willisHmm.. weird.. Ubuntu Made a .Trash-1000 direcory on a removeable NTFS USB drive.. and windows wont delete it. ;P00:02
Dr_willisbut i can delete everything IN the directory. but not the directory itself00:02
jakub hello. I installed ubuntu-based distro (kxstudio) via netboot, wifi (lenovo e530). When i booted up, wifi doesnt work, it says 'device not ready'. Although i installed the whole system via that adapter. What should I do? Thank you.00:02
TiktalikDr_willis: that's a weird thing linux makes, just roll with it00:03
Dr_willisjakub,  id suggest checking if it works with a standared ubuntu live cd.00:03
Dr_willisTiktalik,  ive deleted them befor however. ;)00:03
jakubDr_willis, well apparently it does. I installed the whole system via this wifi. (standard console based installator)00:04
Dr_willisjakub,  from a live cd i would check what module its loading. then try to sudo modprobe the same module on the isntalled system00:05
jakubDr_willis, well i dont have a live cd. Is there any way to do this, for example lspci?00:05
Dr_willisjakub,  that will tell you the card. but i dont know what modules go with what cards.. google may know. or someone in here may know00:06
Dr_willisjakub,  run that addational-drivers tool also. it may suggest some drivers00:06
jakubDr_willis, (without the live cd which i would have to download and burn). I am sure there are drivers for this. I installed the whole system via this card (!00:07
jakub)00:07
Dr_willisjakub,  its possible the drivers were on the live cd but not installed i guess.. Or the installed systemis having a harder time detecting the card00:07
jakubDr_willis, Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 (rev c4)00:08
jakublspci00:08
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cinka_hi00:14
CoreyBRdoes anyone here uses empathy messenger?00:15
cjaredruni do CoreyBR00:15
CoreyBRcjaredrun, when i use empathy to sign in my MSN account i'm logged out in other instances of my MSN, does empathy support multi log ins?00:17
CoreyBRsorry for my crappy english :(00:17
cjaredrunempathy does support multple log ins, but that sounds like an MSN issue to me00:18
cjaredrunnever personally used MSN on empathy, only AIM and gTALK00:18
BoozeWooz:P00:19
CoreyBRcjaredrun, when i enter empathy my Windows Live Messenger in Win7 is logged out =\ but this dont happens in aMSN00:19
CoreyBRi think its an empathy issue, idk, i'm searching about this problem but i cant find anything00:20
cjaredrunidk CoreyBR :/ good luck00:20
tagabaghello00:22
thomasdhow would i change the limits of applicatio's access to the internet. Like throttle/choke or giving a higher priority?00:23
CoreyBRARGHT! Damn empathy!00:27
BoozeWooz:P00:28
pangelIs it normal that Ubuntu shows my graphics driver as VESA M86?00:28
pangel(I'm using Ubuntu 12.04)00:29
fullhavoc1Good evening, does anyone here have any experience installing ubuntu on a macbook pro 5,3?00:29
britt__not successfully00:30
britt__getting it to boot with the efi can be a hassle with anything above snow leopard00:30
britt__at least from my memory00:30
phunyguy_t430s!anyone | fullhavoc100:31
ubottufullhavoc1: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.00:31
fullhavoc1that's basically what I'm dealing with. the live CD will not boot, it'll either shutdown, blank screen, or get past grub and kernal panic.00:32
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phunyguy_t430s!mac | fullhavoc100:32
ubottufullhavoc1: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages00:32
Dr_willispangel,  whats your video card/chipset00:33
pangelDr_willis: Ati radeon hd365000:33
Dr_willispangel,  have you intalled the fglrx drivers? its not one of those dual-gpu setups is it?00:34
fullhavoc1thanks phunyguy, but those guide deal primarily with how to get the different drivers and whatnot working, none of those guide have listed any similar issues to what I have been struggling with.00:34
phunyguy_t430sok fullhavoc1, was just throwing it out there.00:35
fullhavoc1I appreciate it00:35
phunyguy_t430sI wish I could help, but it has been a while for me trying on a mac.00:35
phunyguy_t430sI have a mac air that I jump on once in a while, but not very often.00:36
phunyguy_t430show far do you get in the boot process? Like are you booting off USB?00:36
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pangelDr_willis: No, it isn't! fglrxinfo output seems normal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422304/00:37
oneiricwolfcan anyone see this?00:37
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fullhavoc1I'm booting off of a usb stick (created via unetbootin) I've tried 12.10 64bit mac version, and 12.10 64bit, (I've also tried 12.04 64b, 12.04 mac edition, fedora's  beefy miracle, arch linux, and slackware) all via usb made by unetbootin (when I tried any of these on other machines I had no problems booting and getting into a live environment) they either crash when I selected them in rEFIt, or if I am able to get to grub, selecting 00:40
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CoreyBRYEAH! I did it!00:40
CoreyBRempathy owned!00:40
phunyguy_t430sfullhavoc1, does it have a CD drive00:41
fullhavoc1it does not00:41
phunyguy_t430sbecause I think what I ended up doing was converting the ISO to mac image format, and burning that way00:41
fullhavoc1hmmm00:42
phunyguy_t430sbeen about a year00:42
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phunyguy_t430sif you have a USB CD drive that may help00:42
fullhavoc1I really need to get one (none of my computers have a CD rom drive right now)00:42
Dr_willisYou could try 'dd' to put the image directly on a usb, and not use unetbootin.00:42
fullhavoc1tried using dd with arch00:43
Dr_willisbut If its crashing once you get to the Live Desktop. then that wouldent make much sence. since it is booting00:43
fullhavoc1no luck, same booting issues00:43
phunyguy_t430sDr_willis, that may work after converting to .dmg as well00:43
fullhavoc1farthest I've gotten is one step past grub, when it kernal panics00:43
Dr_willisor do youmean the Live-cd/usb boots.. you install THEN the installed systemis crashing?00:43
phunyguy_t430sir .img - cant remember which it was00:43
fullhavoc1haven00:43
phunyguy_t430sor*00:43
fullhavoc1haven't been able to get to a live environment yet00:44
Dr_willisThis is an Intel Based Mac? :) or an older ppc mac?00:44
fullhavoc1intel based core 2 duo (macbook pro version 5,3 )00:45
phunyguy_t430swhat version of Ubuntu? 12.10?00:46
matbee_guys?00:46
fullhavoc1I've tried 12.10, 12.04 and a few other distros00:46
phunyguy_t430smatbee_?00:46
phunyguy_t430sfullhavoc1, have you been following this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation00:49
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phunyguy_t430shmm... that just mentions LiveCD. Maybe the USB portion is the problem.  Like I said, I was using a CD.00:51
fullhavoc1yup, that's the one, though it's worth noting that I can partition everything with disk utility, but I cannot enable bootcamp (since I don't have a CD rom drive it stops me from moving past the creating the partitions, hence why I used disk utility)00:51
phunyguy_t430sAhh! http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx00:54
phunyguy_t430sfullhavoc1, see that link.  That is what I did00:54
fullhavoc1 I will give that a whirl00:55
fullhavoc1thank you Phuny00:55
OerHeksfullhavoc1, might wanna try the ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64+mac.iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/release/00:56
fullhavoc1I've tried the 12.04 alternate amd64 mac, I haven00:58
fullhavoc1I haven't tried the regular desktop version of the mac 12.04 yet00:58
OerHeksoke, this is the 12.04.1 version ( updated)00:58
CoreyBRi'm here to help, any problem with ubuntu just ask me!00:58
OerHeksi do not own a mac, but it is worth a try00:59
phunyguy_t430sCoreyBR, the majority of us are here to help.  :)01:05
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lvmerAnyone got slick HDD price connections/coupons? Going to buy a bunch of 3TB HDDs this week. Best bet atm seems like amazon.com compared to newegg. Any help is welcome. :)01:07
phunyguy_t430s!ot | lvmer01:08
ubottulvmer: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:08
lvmerphunyguy_t430s: thanks. Yes I do use this for ubuntu frequently... more specifically #ubuntu-server. I was just asking a seemingly related question.01:09
phunyguy_t430sIt's offtopic.01:09
Dr_willismay be better to ask in #hardware01:09
lvmerHence why I said thanks01:09
lvmerdr_willis: 10-4 heading over01:09
phunyguy_t430sy/w01:09
BoozeWoozit is electric01:10
robdehello, I want to access bookmarks on apple icloud from ubuntu01:13
mega1is there a way to remote access a ubuntu server01:13
mickster04!remote01:13
Dr_willismega1,  ssh would be the normal way to get into a server01:13
phunyguy_t430s!ssh | megal01:13
ubottumegal: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)01:13
mickster04mega1: yeah, ssh, or some kind of desktop viewing too?01:13
mega1from outside my home network01:13
Dr_willismega1, again....  ssh would be the normal way to get into a server01:13
Dr_willisrunning a server.. you will want to learn ssh. :)01:14
phunyguy_t430s!portforward | mega101:14
ubottumega1: For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall01:14
mega1yes ssh can but my router wont do portforwarding01:14
mickster04mega1: that doesn't sound right? what router are you using?01:15
Dr_willisThen i think you should get a new/better router.01:15
phunyguy_t430smega1?  It won't?01:15
Tim42I could use some help with an IPv6 configuration. I'm doing it completely manually and I can get an address assigned to the interface, but can't ping anything else on the local link. Ideas?01:15
bse5150_hello01:15
mega1the one my isp gave me01:15
Dr_willisor put the server on the DMZ setting01:15
mickster04well call them up and ask them about it01:15
Dr_willisMy ISP suplies a Cable Modem. not a router.01:15
OerHeksrobde there is no apple-cloud client AFAIK01:15
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mickster04mega1: well the modem shouldn't need forwarding, just the router...01:16
robdethis is what I already found out: the bookmarks seem to be stored on a webdav server http://p01-bookmarks.icloud.com. it is possible to login with an apple id. but the problem is that there seems to be a private webdav extension called "BookmarkDAV". what would be the best way to re-engineer that protocol?01:16
blackshirt!info dmz01:16
ubottuPackage dmz does not exist in quantal01:16
Dr_willisDMZ is a feature of a router. that puts the DMZ'ed pc basically directly/totally on the internet. with no protection01:16
Dr_willisNot a 'great' way to do it.01:17
robde* https://01:17
OerHeksrobde xmark for firefox does not sync bookmarks https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/xmarks-sync/01:17
phunyguy_t430shmmm being in the military, thats not at all what a DMZ was... lol.  I always saw it as a zone that was neither internal nor external - aka firewalled on both sides.01:17
mega1what i was thinking was something like teamviwer01:17
const_antinecan user temporarily change their uid?01:18
mehworkhow can i unbine <super> from unity?01:18
mehworki simply cannot take it anymore :D01:18
Karlo_const_antine: That's what "su" does01:18
phunyguy_t430sconst_antine, that may not be a good thing to do, since filesystem permissions are stored as UID.01:18
const_antinei tried to edit someone else's file on nfs mount with sudo but it opened the file as read only01:19
const_antinei checked exports file on server, it is configured as rw01:19
const_antinewtf is going on here :/01:19
phunyguy_t430sconst_antine, change file ownership to your current UID01:19
phunyguy_t430sahh you said nfs01:19
phunyguy_t430snot ntfs, I read ntfs01:20
hyperzapHI all01:20
phunyguy_t430sis the share mounted to your client rw?01:20
phunyguy_t430shi hyperzap01:20
const_antineyes it is rw01:21
const_antineprinter-pc.pautina:/home/aptyp/Videos on /home/const_antine/Videos type nfs (rw,addr=192.168.1.2)01:21
hyperzapTwo quick questions:01:21
W|cKeDhi01:21
hyperzapIs /usr/bin the same for all users?01:21
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phunyguy_t430swell with nfs, permissions still apply.  what is the permission line on the file? (drwxrwxrwx)01:22
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phunyguy_t430shyperzap, define "same for all users"01:22
effigy-hey, does anyone have experience getting airDroid to work on an android to transfer files from a computer?01:23
phunyguy_t430s!anyone | effigy-01:23
ubottueffigy-: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.01:23
const_antinephunyguy_t430s, Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)01:23
phunyguy_t430sconst_antine, then change ownership on the server to your UID, rather than changing the UID of your user.01:24
const_antinewait a sec i think the server file also has the same file permissions01:24
W|cKeDi got this confusing problem that i've encounter in my wireless before it was working fine and now it seems there's a problem...coz when i'm connected thru wired network when i want to connect also with my wireless connection my wired network will be dropped and then my wireless will be in before it's working fine even if i'm using wired connection i can connect also with wireless without dropping my wired connection what seems to be the pro01:24
phunyguy_t430sor just change permissions on it,, const_antine01:25
effigy-what? that's my only question. i'm trying to get airDroid to work and it won't connect, google is no help so far.01:25
const_antineaha!01:25
const_antinei always trip over file permissions01:25
vitewhat is the comand to "CUT" and PASTE directories?01:25
hyperzapphunyguy_t430s: All non root. I just want to know if I put a symlink to a program in /usr/bin as root, wether it will be there for all users01:25
const_antinety01:25
phunyguy_t430shyperzap, yes.01:25
phunyguy_t430svite, via terminal?01:25
hyperzapphunyguy_t430s: thanks. Next question:01:26
viteyes01:26
phunyguy_t430svite, see the commands cp and mv01:26
phunyguy_t430scopy and move respectively.01:26
phunyguy_t430svite, 'man cp' and 'man mv'01:26
hyperzapWhat is the 'normal' way to set programs to run on startup (userlevel 2) for ubuntu?01:26
phunyguy_t430shyperzap, do you mean via GUI shell login?01:27
phunyguy_t430sor via service?01:27
hyperzapphunyguy_t430s: I want ot write a python script that can set a daeomon to run at startup, in the background01:30
phunyguy_t430shyperzap, right, but do you mean on system startup, or when the user logs in?01:30
hyperzapphunyguy_t430s: system startup01:31
Hwkillerhyperzap: why not use an initscript?01:31
Hwkillerthat's exactly what they're for01:31
hyperzapHwkiller: go on ...01:31
phunyguy_t430sHwkiller, have at it, that's where I was going next.01:31
Hwkillergo googling...01:31
HwkillerI'm not about to explain how to write an init script here01:31
hyperzapHwkiller: phunyguy_t430s: do I just put the initscript in the /etc/init.d directory and make a symlink from /etc/rc2.d and It will work?01:34
Hwkilleri'm actually not 100% sure01:35
Hwkillerit's been a long time since I've made one. I've used systemd for so long now01:36
phunyguy_t430smaybe upstart would be more appropriate01:36
OerHeks!upstart01:37
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/01:37
hyperzapHwkiller: phunyguy_t430s: Niether upstart nor systemd are available on my system01:37
hyperzap(assuming thats the name of commands)01:37
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phunyguy_t430sHwkiller, also, telling someone to google something may be a bit harsh.01:39
Hwkillerphunyguy_t430s: it's harsh to tell someone to go google something?01:40
Hwkillerseriously?01:40
phunyguy_t430sI asked in #ubuntu-ops to be sure.01:40
phunyguy_t430sI have done the same thing in the past and go slammed.  Just a friendly reminder.01:40
phunyguy_t430sgot slammed*01:41
Hwkillerhe wasn't using the init script method before. I gave him a new clue (init scripts). telling him to google that is harsh? I do not understand this channel.01:41
Phabaintuitive / trivial things shouldnt be harsh01:41
phunyguy_t430sFeel free to ask the ops yourself.01:41
phunyguy_t430sI was just telling you.01:42
Phabathings that perhaps require pre-requisite knowledge is i guess01:42
Hwkillersigh01:42
phunyguy_t430sif you can assist with the googling, and guide with the pages you found, that would be helpful.  Telling them to Google for themselves is not helpful.01:43
k1lhyperzap: so you are not using a ubuntu machine? ubuntu is recently using upstart for starting services01:43
phunyguy_t430shyperzap, upstart is the name of the background service that manages the rest of the startup scripts.01:44
phunyguy_t430sit isn't really a command, just a method of having programs start on boot.01:44
MEerhello01:45
phunyguy_t430shello MEer01:45
MEerwho is name?01:45
MEerhellp01:45
MEerhello01:45
Kardosi have 10.04 but i dont recall if it's server or desktop, how to check?01:46
phunyguy_t430s10.04 is supported either way01:46
phunyguy_t430salthough I am unsure if 10.04 uses upstart.01:46
Kardosthe wiki is misleading then; it says only server extends beyond next april01:46
phunyguy_t430swell it's not next april yet :)01:47
OerHeksKardos, if you have commandline only, it could be server01:47
OerHeks!10.0401:47
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)01:47
parisI have installed Google voice and video chat plugin, but still I cannot make any calls at all. I can play music and so on. What I should undertake to fix it?01:47
hyperzapIm running 10.10 but there is no upstart, only init01:48
Kardoshmmmm01:48
k1lKardos: check if its a server kernel or a regular one?01:48
W|cKeDi got this confusing problem that i've encounter in my wireless before it was working fine and now it seems there's a problem...coz when i'm connected thru wired network when i want to connect also with my wireless connection my wired network will be dropped and then my wireless will be in before it's working fine even if i'm using wired connection i can connect also with wireless without dropping my wired connection what seems to be the pro01:48
W|cKeD.04 distro01:48
jribhyperzap: can I ask what exactly you want to start at boot?01:48
Hwkillerhyperzap: then your job is easier :p... I found upstart to be difficult in the little bit I played with it01:48
Kardosso basically theres no difference?01:48
hyperzapjrib: I python program I made; my own web thingy01:48
Kardosor is it that a subset of the packages get maintained after april?01:49
hyperzapHwkiller: so how do I do it then? :P is it just he whole rc.local thing?01:49
phunyguy_t430sKardos, if you are running ubuntu server, it is supported past april, if it is desktop, support is dropped.01:49
Hwkillerrc.local is kinda a dirty way to manage services/autostart01:49
jribKardos: subset of packages01:49
Kardosright, phunyguy_t430s, so how do i determine which one i have?01:49
phunyguy_t430sKardos, are you in front of the machine?01:49
Hwkillerif it's a service/daemon, I do recommend using upstart.01:50
Kardosjrib, okay, basically server packages then01:50
Kardosphunyguy_t430s, no shelled into01:50
jribhyperzap: on 10.10, you do have upstart01:50
k1lKardos: yes, support of desktop packages will be dropped. and like i said. check the kernel01:50
phunyguy_t430scheck the kernel Kardos01:50
roastedQuestion - I want to rsync from server A to server B as root. Even if I run the command as root, or sudo, I'm still bound to the username authentication via SSH. Example: rsync -az /media/source/ bob@192.168.1.10:/media/destination/. How do I get around the fact it's running as "bob" and get it running as root?01:50
Kardos2.6.32-43-generic01:50
k1lKardos: desktop01:50
Flannelphunyguy_t430s: No.  April 2013 for desktop, 2015 for server.01:50
jribKardos: sure.  Check out the "ubuntu-support-status" command.01:50
Kardoshah threw and excpeiot01:51
Kardos*exception01:51
Kardoswell okay, so i have until april to get 12.04 on there01:51
Kardosthen i'm good, the machile should be EOL by 201701:51
phunyguy_t430soooh good call jrib, didnt know about that command01:52
jribroasted: run it as root?01:53
phunyguy_t430sbbiab. life calls01:54
hyperzapjrib: I dont. Does it help to know its a server?01:54
jribhyperzap: unless you've done something very strange, you do.  What makes you say you don't have upstart?01:55
shPikachuhi ppl01:55
roastedjrib: I am.01:55
Morudohi!01:55
jribroasted: you said you ran it as bob01:55
somethingPr0fanehowdy01:55
roastedjrib: well, bob was the authenticating party. What else would it be? sudo@192.168.1.150?01:56
shPikachuhow can i set resolution of bootsplash in ubuntu?01:56
shPikachufor some reason its different from my desktops resolution01:56
jribroasted: root... or give bob the permissions you need01:56
MartinSI am here now01:56
roastedjrib: I don't understand just "run it as root." As far as I know, I am running it as root. I'm at a root prompt (sudo su) and I run rsync -az /media/source/ bob@192.168.1.10:/media/destination/ How else do I run it as root?01:57
jribroasted: so what's your question?01:57
roastedjrib: I just asked my question.01:58
jribroasted: repeat it for me please01:58
roastedjrib: I don't understand just "run it as root." As far as I know, I am running it as root. I'm at a root prompt (sudo su) and I run rsync -az /media/source/ bob@192.168.1.10:/media/destination/ How else do I run it as root?01:58
jribroasted: you have a server and a client.  You are executing the command as root on the client.  Not on the server.01:58
roastedjrib: I'm trying to back up one server to another. No user has access to everybody's things in their home directories. Some hidden files for certain programs are permission'd as 600, so of course no group assignments will matter.01:59
jribroasted: one way is to replace "bob" with "root"01:59
roastedjrib: I did.01:59
jribroasted: not according to the command you just pasted01:59
roastedjrib: it just asks for a password, continuously. But I have no idea what the "root" password is since there is no "root" on Ubuntu. I tried my user (jason) in this case who has sudo rights, but it didn't work.01:59
roastedjrib: that command was the initial example I'm working with. root@192.168.1.10 doesn't work.01:59
psusishPikachu, you can try editing /etc/default/grub to specify the gfxmode... it's normally chosen by the bios which is supposed to auto detect the correct resolution01:59
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jribroasted: that's right.  You won't be able to authenticate as root by default.02:00
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Hwkilleri'm curious, why are you copying as root anyway?02:00
roastedjrib: I need a passwordless way to run an rsync command over SSH from one system to another. That's the bottom line.02:00
jribroasted: setup an ssh key for root02:00
roastedjrib: how? root doesn't exist.02:00
jribroasted: of course root exists.  How do you setup an ssh key for your user?02:00
shPikachupsusi : also, i accidentally disabled stretching02:00
Hwkillerthe root user exists. root login does not.02:01
roastedjrib: easy. my user exists. ssh-keygen, ssh-copy-id jason@192.168.1.10, ssh jason@192.168.1.10 and BAM no password I'm SSH'd in.02:01
psusiroasted, what is it that you are trying to do?02:01
shPikachupsusi : how can i enable stetching again?02:01
roastedpsusi: rsync as root over ssh from one system to another with no password in between.02:01
psusiroasted, root always exists... it just has no password by default02:01
jribroasted: that command adds a key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys .  You can add a key to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys02:01
hyperzapCan someone who is running on Ubuntu 10.10 (or something with upstart) quickly check if the file /etc/rc.local exists?02:02
roastedjrib: but if that's the case, I just can't use ssh-copy-id in the process to copy the key, right?02:02
jribroasted: when I do this I tend, to make sure that the only thing root can do is execute the specific backup command (with my ssh configuration)02:02
psusiroasted, copy your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys to /root/.ssh/02:02
jribroasted: right, you can't just use ssh-copy-id because you can't entere a password :)02:02
roastedjrib: and nowwwwwwww it makes sense02:02
shPikachupsusi : there is no grub file02:03
jribhyperzap: it does.  The suggested way though for you to manage init scripts is to use upstart02:03
psusishPikachu, look again?02:03
dloadWhat is the 8.x -> 9.x postgres upgrade process?02:03
coba_tigabelashai02:04
coba_tigabelasgils02:04
jribdload: 9.04 and 9.10 are both End of Life and no longer supported02:04
dloadjrib: postgres02:04
roastedpsusi: I'm trying to place what you just said. Am I to do that on the secondary (destination) box, or the same?02:04
shPikachupsusi : yup. im not even sure if it uses grub. this is an embedded board, a PandaBoard02:04
jribdload: what ubuntu version are you using?02:04
shPikachupsusi : it uses u-boot i think02:05
dloadjrib: 12.10 but I never did the manual update steps for postgres that were described a few versions ago02:05
psusiroasted, on the destination box... the user's .ssh/authorized_keys file lists the ssh keys that are allowed to ssh in as them without a password02:05
psusishPikachu, ohh... I dunno then02:05
dloadjrib: (In order to be able to remove 8.x)02:05
jribdload: ah.  I don't know.  Someone else may be able to help.  Check /var/lib/dpkg/info/postgresql* to see if there's relevant info (especially a README.Debian)02:06
roastedpsusi: I apologize, I'm still trying to place everything. On the source box, I am to run ssh-keygen, which puts an ssh folder in /root since root doesn't have a home dir. Then take that, and move it to where exactly on the destination box? same place? /root/.ssh?02:06
jribroasted: /root is root's home directory02:06
roastedah02:06
coba_tigabelas...02:06
roastedso if I take the .ssh folder, as is, to destination (so it mirrors what's on source) it should work?02:07
psusiroasted, assuming you already generated an ssh key and uploaded it to the server, you just need to copy your .ssh/authorized_keys file to /root/.ssh/02:07
roastedIt's amazing how much more confusing this is once you take ssh-copy-id out of the mix.02:07
psusiyes, /root is root's home directory, so if you have set up your key to ssh in iwthout a password, you can just copy that file to root's home dir02:07
dloadroasted: you need to keep your private key secret02:07
psusiwhat's confusing about it?  when you connect to the server you tell it who you are and use your key to authenticate.. server checks ~/.ssh/authorized_keys for the keys allowed to authenticate02:08
roastedpsusi: I'm balancing two servers. One gets one key, the other gets another. Sounds simple until I try to actually figure out what goes where.02:08
jribhyperzap: by the way, 10.10 is EOL and no longer supported; you should upgrade if that is what you are running02:10
dloadpublic key of client goes into authorized_keys of server02:10
roastedand if authorized_keys doesn't exist? Am I to just create it?02:10
alusionWhat else is there other than disk2VHD? I am using disk2VHD with an image from my debian and windows partitions and none of them want to boot02:10
alusionit's giving me strange VHD's.02:10
orlokyes, just create it02:10
orlokroasted: root exists on ubuntu, and you can change your uid to root, you just cannot log in directly as root as default02:11
orlokAlso, note the american spelling of authorised02:11
roastedorlok: I've never seen it spelled with an S....02:12
orlokroasted: Are you american?02:12
roastedorlok: yes02:12
orlokroasted: Exactly.. thats the american spelling. Everybody else uses 's'02:12
roastedorlok: Oh. I thought you were implying that the 's' method was American.02:12
roasted;)02:12
orlok:)02:13
roastedso, let me just recap. What I am copying to the server's authorized_keys file is.............. id_rsa.pub?02:13
psusiroasted, you generate a key pair... one you keep private, and the other is public... server needs to know your public key, then you can use your private key to send it a signed message to the effect of "please log me on" and it knows it comes from you ( or someone who has your private key )02:13
orlokroasted: yes02:14
roastedorlok: what about known_hosts? Is that different from authorized_keys?02:14
orlokyup02:14
orlokthats a list of the hosts you have connect to as a client02:14
roastedah, that's when you get the yes/no thing.02:14
orlokyes, so you can detect somebody pretending to be the host you want to connect to02:15
psusiyea, known_hosts keeps track of the server's key for servers you have used before just in case someone tries to pull a fast one and impersonate the server02:15
roastedorlok: now in the case of the destination server, I don't even have a .ssh folder in /root. I assume I have to create that as well?02:15
orlokyup02:15
thejollygrimreapHow reliable is copying the .thunderbird directory in a fresh install or Ubuntu02:15
psusithejollygrimreap, never had a problem02:16
Cottusthejollygrimreap: you have to make sure the directory has the same uid, for example in a new install the first user created gets uid=100002:16
keberif you want to be billionaire, you must go over to 3 seas, and after that first sea.02:17
thejollygrimreapOk , what about things like server names and passwords?02:17
psusithejollygrimreap, it's all in there02:17
thejollygrimreapOk, thanks,02:18
keberif you want to be pope you must go over 4 seas and after that firstone. and over new 3 seas and after that firstone.02:20
Karlo_There's a remote system that I regularly connect to from my primary machine, via ssh.  My primary machine crashed this morning and won't boot.  I have a second machine on the same LAN, but haven't set up ssh credentials.  I think I need to copy info from primary:~/.ssh/ to secondary:~/.ssh/ to get this working -- is that correct/appropriate?02:20
bazhangkeber, wrong channel02:20
jeeves_mossmy dovecot server tanked, and I need to get the e-mails from the e-mail files so I can import them into the accounts I recreated in Exchange.  How do I do that?02:20
psusiKarlo_, yes02:21
IdleOneKarlo_: correct, ~/.ssh/authorized_keys02:21
orlokjeeves_moss: "tanked".. what storage was dovecot using? maildir?02:21
psusijeeves_moss, depends on how you configured dovecot to store your mail02:21
IdleOneKarlo_: no, the remote server already has that so you need the private key on your local machine02:21
Karlo_Note that primary / secondary are *my* machines, not the remote.02:21
Karlo_So, copy the private and public key files from primary to secondary?02:22
jeeves_mossorlok, by "tanked", I mean it upgraded to Dovecot2 and totalled all of my vhost configs.  I didn't want to put the energy to rebuild it, and it was the "final nail" for Linux in this enviroment02:22
IdleOneKarlo_: yes, both to be safe, but you need the private key so you can auth to the remote machine02:22
jeeves_mossorlok, and I copied all of the e-mail files from the maildir into a TAR archive02:23
roastedorlok: jrib: psusi: works beautifully. Thanks for your patience fellas.02:23
leo2007folks, I am running 12.04 LTS. I got a question about how ubuntu keep things secure. for example, it has one pkg called 'supervisor' with a version released two years ago. there have been updates upstream. Does ubuntu merge fixes from upstream?02:23
hiloWhen using remote gui via "ssh -X user@host <application>" is it possible to hear the audio on the remote end?02:23
roastedalthough, one last question to make sure my perms are set right. Is authorized_keys supposed to be 600?02:23
jrib!sru | leo200702:23
ubottuleo2007: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates02:23
jribroasted: 600 is fine02:24
orlokjeeves_moss: Oh, so you have all of the email messages in their individual Maildir format files? You now have an exchange problem then :)02:24
k1lleo2007: short: yes, there are security-patches02:24
leo2007k1l: thanks. that doc is too long for me to read now.02:24
orlokjeeves_moss: what _i_ would do, (aside from not use exchange), is get dovecot running, and copy the files to your exchange server via imap02:25
jeeves_mossorlok, lol, yep.  I traded a Dovecot problem for a Exchange disastor.  So, now I need to get the e-mail out of the files from Dovecot, and import them into my exchange farm <shudders to say those words>02:25
leo2007but pkg supervisor is still at version 3.0a8 (released at 2010-01-20)02:26
orlokjeeves_moss: Ok, you have all of your Maildir's in a tarball - the problem is now unrelated to dovecot or any other mail server02:26
leo2007released on*02:26
Karlo_Back to my original question.  New 12.04.1 system, and I find that Ctrl-D is intercepted at the window manager level to mean iconify/deiconify; this is annoying for both Emacs and terminal windows.  How do I unbind this?02:26
cryptodiracan anyone point me to the solution for making the backlight for the KEYBOARD remain working beyond POST ????  toshiba satellite /amd chips/ ubuntu 12.0402:26
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orlokjeeves_moss: You now have an exchange problem. Maildir is a standard storage method for many mail servers. Its easy to access and manipulate the data with the tools of your choice02:26
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orlokjeeves_moss: You want to import data into exchange, this is the wrong channel to ask in :)02:27
jeeves_mossorlok, ok, so what program would you recomend to utilize on a worksataion to be able to import the files, then IMAP them into the exchange server?02:27
IdleOneKarlo_: #emacs can help with that question02:28
k1lleo2007: you have to read the full link if you want the full information. compare the changelog and package version at packages.ubuntu.com02:28
orlokjeeves_moss: I wouldent, i would just use an email client to copy them across. I would not deal with two seperate problems at the same time02:28
Karlo_IdleOne: It's not an Emacs problem; it's at a higher level.02:28
leo2007I see. OK, I'll just trust ubuntu for now.02:28
orlokjeeves_moss: You want to import maildir files into exchange. Have you asked google?02:29
IdleOneKarlo_: hmm, good point.02:29
jribKarlo_: presumably, this happens for all windows, not just in a terminal?02:29
jeeves_mossorlok, lol, yes, and I am now more confused than I was when I started02:29
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Karlo_jrib: Yes02:30
psusijeeves_moss, assuming your mail is in a Mailbox file, you can use thunderbird to read it and copy it via IMAP to the exchange server... not sure if exchange has a direct Mailbox import tool or not02:30
orlokjeeves_moss: Also - Heres a hint.. No matter what your operating system, or software, application, etc - If you fail to back up your configs before performing a change you dont understand.. If it fails, its not the softwares fault!02:30
jeeves_mosspsusi, it isn't though.  It's the raw maildir folder02:30
jribKarlo_: with unity?02:30
jeeves_mossorlok, lol, yes, I know.  I've been kicking myself for a while now.02:31
psusijeeves_moss, hrm... there is a tool to convert from Maildir to mbox... don't recall the name now thoguh02:31
orlokjeeves_moss: How many users?02:31
jeeves_mossorlok, 1 major one.  the others have found out that their stuff is lost and have finally accepted it02:32
IdleOneKarlo_: You need compiz config settings manager, and go to the Ubuntu Unity plugin section, and tell it to disable the C-d binding.02:32
IdleOneKarlo_: that is if you are using Unity of course02:32
jeeves_mossorlok, there is ~3gb of data there.02:32
orlokGetting dovecot working should only take a few minutes02:33
Karlo_jrib & IdleOne: I believe it's unity, yes.  (How can I check?)02:33
IdleOneKarlo_: you got a launcher on the left with the ubuntu logo at the top?02:33
jeeves_mossorlok, I don't feel like kicking it02:33
Karlo_IdleOne: Top left, (Logo) Applications Places02:34
IdleOneKarlo_: I believe that is gnome-shell, can you take a screenshot and pastebin ?02:35
jeeves_mossorlok, I think I may have found something.  one sec02:35
IdleOneKarlo_: either way, the settings would be in compizconfig-settings-manager02:37
Dr_willisGnome-shell dosent use CCSM/Compiz i thought02:37
IdleOneDr_willis: it doesn't?02:37
amigamiagnome not use compiz?02:38
amigamiaoh dr_willis02:38
Dr_willisI thought Unity was a Compiz Plugin, but Gnome-shell uses somthing else.02:38
amigamiayour worng02:38
amigamiawrong even02:38
k1lthey use mutter for gnom-shell02:38
amigamiayes ofcourse02:38
Dr_willisMutter - thats it.. ;) i never can rember its name02:38
IdleOnek1l: even when you install gnome-shell in ubuntu?02:39
amigamia Just sing Hello Fadder...Hello Mutter...This is Baby Dr Butter :D02:39
Dr_willisamigamia,  ;) i was just thinking that also...02:39
k1lIdleOne: i think. im not sure on this02:39
amigamiahaha02:39
Dr_willisps ax | grep mutter    and see..02:39
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Karlo_IdleOne: screen snapshot at http://imagebin.org/23872002:41
IdleOneI'm not sure which DE that is, might be gnome-panel02:42
Karlo_(Huh, the snapshot included the mouse cursor -- I didn't expect that)02:43
kevinchhi, I'm looking for something to stream and encode on the fly mkv video to my iOS devices.  any suggestions?  I'm running 12.04 server02:44
Karlo_Anyway, I haven't done much in the way of customizing yet, so I would assume that the top and bottom panels are whatever is default...  Unless the person who set up the machine for me in the first place had to make some decisions.02:45
red5kevinch: have you tried VLC?02:45
kevinchvlc ios app?02:45
kevinchhmm intersting02:45
kvothetechkevinch: just run an apache server and find an app that'll let you http stream02:46
red5Not sure...was looking at doing the same thing to an Android pad.  Seemed like VLC pretty much did everything like that02:46
kvothetechthere's a few in android02:46
kevinchwhat does vlc stream from?02:46
kevinchlike what would i run on my server?02:46
kevinchcan it just play videos in an nfs share?02:47
W|cKeDi got this confusing problem that i've encounter in my wireless before it was working fine and now it seems there's a problem...coz when i'm connected thru wired network when i want to connect also with my wireless connection my wired network will be dropped and then my wireless will be in before it's working fine even if i'm using wired connection i can connect also with wireless without dropping my wired connection what seems to be the pro02:47
W|cKeD.04 distro02:47
red5Actually...if your wanting to stream on a local network...have you considered DLNA?02:47
hyperzapIs cron a part of Ubuntu by default? What about debian?02:48
kevinchnope not really02:48
Dr_willistheres numerous upnp servers for linux that can stream to mobile devices. :) or other devices02:48
kevinchred502:48
unknown__?02:48
kevinchokay02:48
unknown__hello :D02:48
kevinchDLNA=unpnp?02:48
Karlo_IdleOne: How do I get to compizconfig-settings-manager ?  There doesn't seem to be a command of that name in the usual bin or sbin dirs, and it's not obvious which icon I would need to click on.02:48
kevinch*upnp02:48
red5You can pretty much find DLNA server software for everything, and I can't imagine there aren't a few iOS clients02:48
red5yeah, DLNA, PnP02:48
IdleOneKarlo_: you need to install it, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager02:48
k1lhyperzap: yes for ubuntu02:49
kevinchok02:49
red5Repositories have an app minidlna for linux02:49
IdleOneKarlo_: it will add a new item in your menus somewhere. I'm not using gnome here so i can't check02:49
kevinchwill a upnp server encode on the fly to a format iOS likes?02:50
Dr_williskevinch,  should be able to.02:50
Dr_willisMost can encode to numerous formats02:50
kevinchokay excellent, now to find a upnp streamer02:50
Dr_willisTheres several in the repos.. depending on your needs. some others not in the repos.02:50
Dr_willis!info ushare02:51
ubottuushare (source: ushare): lightweight UPnP A/V Media Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1a-0ubuntu9 (quantal), package size 51 kB, installed size 182 kB02:51
Dr_willis!info minidlna02:51
ubottuminidlna (source: minidlna): lightweight DLNA/UPnP-AV server targeted at embedded systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.24+dfsg-1 (quantal), package size 142 kB, installed size 362 kB02:51
red5There you go02:51
Dr_willisthose are both rather basic.. and work well.  meditomb is much fancier.. then theres the PLEX server. but thats not in the repos02:51
Dr_willisTheres most likely many others. ;002:51
kevinchyeah I've heard media tomb before02:51
kevinchI think I'll give that a shot02:51
red5Most off the shelf NAS drives have DLNA built in now02:52
Dr_willisif you just have a dozen of so videos in a directory. ushare or minidlna are easy02:52
kevinchI've got 300 or so02:52
kevinchtwo directories,02:52
dloadDr_willis: What is PLEX? I keep hearing about it02:52
Dr_willisif you want them all fancy sorted., then plex may do it. but id start small and workup02:53
Karlo_If I echo a Ctrl-G from a terminal, I get a "thunk" sound; If I ring the bell from Emacs, I get no sound at all.  What are these two clients doing differently, and to what extent can either/both be reconfigured?02:53
Dr_willisPlex is like XBMC taken a new direction I gues you can say. theres the Plex Server, then a Plex media player. (not sure if the player is on linux or is windows only)02:53
Dr_willisThe Speaker Beep i belive is disabled by default. every so often someone asks about the old skool 'pscpkr' beepng. ;)02:54
Dr_willisthe terminal app is most likely triggering the system bell. not doing the old skool speaker beep.02:54
Dr_willisMy PC dont beep at all. :) its speakerless.. even grub cant make it beep.02:54
Dr_willis!info beep02:54
ubottubeep (source: beep): advanced pc-speaker beeper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-3 (quantal), package size 23 kB, installed size 78 kB02:54
dloadDr_willis: Is it better than XBMC? How is it different?02:55
Dr_willisdload,  its basically XBMC taken a differnt direction. it has a stand alone server part and a media player part.02:55
Dr_willisdload,  it also has streaming over  the internet to your mobile device  :)02:55
dloadDr_willis: It's based on XBMC source code?02:55
Dr_willisdload,  yes i belive so02:56
Dr_willisboxee is also based on xbmc. but im not sure if boxee for the pc/lnux/windows is still being devloped02:56
red5Plex looks pretty slick02:57
Dr_willisopenelec is yet another take on xbmc. it has its own live-mini-disrto. :)02:57
jeeves_mossI'm back everyone!02:58
red5You may still want to normalize your collection with something like Arista02:58
red5meaning...I've yet to find any server\client streaming combo that will deal with all video\audio formats without issue02:59
Dr_willisMy Boxee comes darn close.03:00
W|cKeDanyone? been askin this again and again pls help huhuhu03:00
W|cKeDi got this confusing problem that i've encounter in my wireless before it was working fine and now it seems there's a problem...coz when i'm connected thru wired network when i want to connect also with my wireless connection my wired network will be dropped and then my wireless will be in before it's working fine even if i'm using wired connection i can connect also with wireless without dropping my wired connection what seems to be the pro03:00
W|cKeD.04 distro03:00
Karlo_Dr_willis: So if I want Emacs to have access to whatever beep it's trying to use, is there some package I should install?03:00
FloodBot1W|cKeD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:00
Dr_willisI mean my BoxeeBox plays most eveyrthing ive ver fouind for it03:00
Dr_willisKardos,  no idea. every so often someone asks how to enable the PC Speaker beep. Id say check askubuntu.com  i think the module is blacklisted. and at one time a X bug prevented it working anyway.03:01
Dr_willisKardos,  does it beep at the console?03:01
Dr_willisor  there may be a emacs way to use the system bell instead of the speaker beep03:02
red5Doesn't suprise me the Boxee would be that good.  Pretty much a full blown PC, right?03:02
red5Mostly embedded set top boxes I don't see work as well as I would like.03:02
Karlo_Dr_willis: If I bring up a terminal application and run a program that emits a Ctrl-G (e.g., echo -e '\a'), I get a "thunk" sound.  If you can tell me how to get to the main console without dismissing X, I can try there too...03:03
* Kardos >:E03:03
Karlo_Kardos: You weren't being summoned -- Dr_willis did premature tab completion.  :-)03:04
Dr_willisKardos,  what terminal program.03:04
Dr_willis;)03:04
IdleOneDr_willis: you're helping Karlo_ with a L03:04
Dr_willisI got my nick list very narrow for my phone.03:05
Karlo_Dr_willis: gnome-terminal03:05
IdleOnestop pinging the other karTAB :)03:05
Dr_willistry xterm and see if it does it03:05
LogicandReasonHi,03:05
LogicandReasonAnd suddenly commas03:05
phunyguy_t430sW|cKeD, maybe your question is too confusing03:05
Karlo_Dr_willis: Same "thunk" sound in xterm03:05
bananaboydeanTried to make wmfs my ddefault windows manager and now i am unable to login through any of the windows managers they make the log in noise and go straight back to the login page any ideas?03:07
LogicandReasonI'm trying to install OpenOffice, but I can't get it working because it's in .gz. What do I need to do?03:07
ShareTextingCEOhttp://www.ShareTexting.com Launching March 3rd 2013! OVER 700,000+ Users already signed up! Go sign up now. FREE for life!03:07
Dr_willisthats the system bell. instead of the pc spkr. I belive the general trend has been to remap the spkr beep to more universial system sound.03:07
OerHeksShareTextingCEO, i won't join, because you spam.03:08
Dr_willisHmm.. if a service is not launcheing untill 2013. how can it have any users.....03:08
W|cKeDphunyguy_t430s, i can't connect my wireless along with my wired connection together if i want to connect my wireless my wired connection will be drop out then that's the time my wireless will be connected i dunno what seems to be the problem it's working before just yesterday it came to this situation03:08
bananaboydeanDr_willis: were you responding to me?03:08
Karlo_Probably means they bought someone's mailing list of 700k users, and auto-subscribed them.03:09
Dr_willis!info wmfs03:10
ubottuPackage wmfs does not exist in quantal03:10
bananaboydeanin reality i need to reset my window manager startup options and delete my ~.xinit and ~.xsessions files03:11
bananaboydeanbut i cant because i cant login03:11
LogicandReasonDoes anyone know how to install OpenOffice as a .gz?03:11
bananaboydeandid you unzip it?03:12
Karlo_W|cKeD: Your question is hard to parse.  For a start, consider ending each sentence with a period.  At the very least, this will make more people willing to read it.03:12
kevinchDr_willis: I got media tomb working03:12
LogicandReasonDid I unzip it? Yes.03:12
\\Mr_C\\if i git the latest stable of the linux kernel, what do i need to do to just compile it and get the image file without actually installing it?03:12
kevinchvery easy, thanks a lot!!03:12
\\Mr_C\\just a generic image03:12
\\Mr_C\\with all defaults03:12
bananaboydeanand did you make it?03:13
W|cKeDmy wireless will not working along with wired connection.03:13
phunyguy_t430sW|cKeD, I agree with Karlo_, lack of punctuation is very tough.03:13
W|cKeDbefore it was working fine both together03:13
bananaboydeanLogicandReason: did you run the make command?03:13
phunyguy_t430showever I think I understand.03:13
phunyguy_t430syou want them both connected at the same time.03:13
phunyguy_t430sand that feature doesnt work?03:13
LogicandReason@bananabotdean What do you mean?03:13
LogicandReasonSpelling would be nice...03:13
W|cKeDwired and wireless working fine. just yesterday i have to connect my wireless but it seems my wired connection will be drop. that goes in for my wireless to be connected.03:14
bananaboydeanLogicandReason: when you unzipped the tar.gz file what was the file outputs03:14
LogicandReason@bananaboydean What do you mean?03:14
phunyguy_t430sW|cKeD, what is your native language? Your English is spotty...03:14
W|cKeDdo i have to be a white american to be heard in this channel?03:15
phunyguy_t430sW|cKeD, relax, there are native channels for different languages, that is all.03:15
Karlo_No, but you do have to be able to communicate in English.03:15
phunyguy_t430sit makes it easier.03:15
Dr_willisLittle Green men from mars are fun.03:15
W|cKeDok...so been here before seems my problems are solved without any rejections due to my english grammar or somethin03:16
W|cKeDsorry03:16
SaidKLEW|cKeD: believe it or not, most of us have worse grammar03:17
phunyguy_t430sW|cKeD, just tell us what your native language is, please.03:17
aarossigHi all, I am looking for advice on how to add fonts to the X11 font system.03:17
aarossigI wish to have the ubuntu font family displayed as part of the output of xlsfonts03:18
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W|cKeDi can't and i will have to stay here coz i've installed my distro from scratch from this channel and i'll stick to it :)03:18
aarossigI am having some difficulty with this... I have been researching for nearly an hour now with no success. Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing?03:18
tenXW|cKeD: your english seems to be way more than acceptable03:18
Dr_willisaarossig,  you can copy .ttf fonts to the users .fonts directlry and they should be used03:18
bulletrulz is it possible to install the old unity in ubuntu03:19
bulletrulzthe orignal03:19
Karlo_If your native language is English, but you're just having trouble expressing yourself, that's something we might be able to work through in this channel.  If you're a native speaker of French, then we can direct you to a channel where things might go more smoothly.03:19
PrabhHi all, I am having trouble with my new Ubuntu install: 1) The fan starts running as soon as ubuntu is on; overheats and shuts off every time; 2) When I plug in the headphones, there is no sound.03:19
phunyguy_t430sfair enough, W|cked.03:19
Dr_willisbulletrulz,  doubtfull. theres been to many changes.03:19
bulletrulzDr_willis, but it was a good gnome 2 ui im using dockbarx and xfce to get a replica but would like to know if it is possible?03:20
phunyguy_t430sbulletrulz, the issue would probably lie with the differences between GTK2 and GTK303:20
bulletrulzSo No Unity orignal?03:21
phunyguy_t430snot in 12.10.03:21
Mukhthar_Ahmedhello all03:21
aarossigDr_willis: No immediate luck. Is restarting X necessary (logout/in)?03:21
bulletrulzwell ok can i install a global menu in xubuntu 12.10?03:21
Karlo_Oh ho.  I just realized that Ctrl-D is not something that affects the *current* window, after all -- it's a shortcut for the "hide ALL windows and show the desktop" thingy in the left corner of the bottom panel.03:22
phunyguy_t430sbulletrulz, you asked this before, and you can.03:22
Mukhthar_Ahmedhow to set path for shell, 'm using dropbear03:22
phunyguy_t430showever it is 3rd party, so I am not sure how much support you will get.03:22
Dr_willisaarossig,  never really noticed. I just copy stuff to my .fonts directory and use the apps.03:22
bulletrulzphunyguy_t430s, i have? can u tell me how to do it?03:22
phunyguy_t430sthere is a third party PPA if you can find it.  I don't remember where I found it.03:23
aarossigDr_willis: ah, I see.. my problem goes beyond your "normal" modern apps that use the Xorg properly03:23
bananaboydeananyone have any luck running wmfs03:23
bananaboydean?03:23
phunyguy_t430sI tried to do the same thing a while back and gave up.03:23
phunyguy_t430s!anyone | bananaboydean03:23
ubottubananaboydean: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.03:23
Dr_willisbananaboydean,  i dont think 'anyone' knows what wmfs is.03:24
Mukhthar_Ahmedhow to set path  bash_profile ?03:24
Dr_willisMukhthar_Ahmed,  theres a export PATH= line in the file you an alter. or add one to the end.03:24
phunyguy_t430s!patience | Mukhthar_Ahmed03:24
ubottuMukhthar_Ahmed: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/03:24
Dr_willisactually its in .profile these days i think. not .bash_profile03:24
red5not .bashrc?03:24
Dr_willisgrep PATH .*    and see where its set03:25
Dr_willis.bsah_profile is read by login shells..   .bashrc is read by every bash shell i belive.03:25
Dr_willis.profile is used if .bash_profile does not exist.03:25
Dr_willisby default theres a .profile and a .bashrc (i think)03:25
Mukhthar_AhmedI will try to be patience, mean while  checking the .profile03:26
Dr_willisexplore them all. ;) put some 'echo this is .bashrc' at the start of .bashrc and so forth to see wht ones get ran when.03:26
jribKarlo_: from google results, the default shortcut for show desktop seems to be ctrl-super-d03:26
bulletrulzanother qestion does mate support gnome 2?03:26
bulletrulzplugins?03:26
Dr_willisbulletrulz,  you would have to ask in the #mate channel since its not part of Ubuntu03:26
bananaboydeanDr_willis: I figured this wouldn't be the best place to ask because wmfs is a program not included with ubuntu just no one on the wmfs forums seem to be online03:27
phunyguy_t430sbananaboydean, doesn't sound like a popular program....03:27
J37well, this is odd03:27
tripelbis there an ubotto test channel?03:27
W|cKeDmy wired connection kept dropping, it started yesterday. before it was working smooth, like when my wired connection dropped i still got my wireless on, but now i can't do both at the same time, like i'll be using wired while my wireless is on and connected. for now if my wired connection will be dropped i need to click my wireless connection to connect or my wired to be back on track. any help to resolve this problem?03:27
bananaboydeanphunyguy_t430s: its not i just really want it to work becasue of its beauty03:27
Karlo_jrib: Interesting.  I've remapped my keyboard so that I don't have a Super key.  I wonder if the tool assumes that, because of that, it needs to use the nearest equivalent.03:27
phunyguy_t430stripelb, /msg ubottu03:27
J37apparently Ubuntu Software Center doesn't like me03:28
phunyguy_t430stype your commands there to test.03:28
jribKarlo_: see if "xev" sheds some light03:28
J37USC goes full derp on me in that it says it doesn't install crap when it actually does03:29
Karlo_jrib: I already tried that.  It didn't.  :-)03:29
jribKarlo_: hit ctrl-(some key that doesn't seem to do anything) and see if it's just ctrl getting generated or if super is in there03:29
Karlo_jrib: Justr Ctrl.03:29
bananaboydeanHow do I reset my windows managers?03:30
jribKarlo_: how did you remap super?03:30
J37do i actually have a problem here, or is my machine just being a solid piece of derp?03:30
phunyguy_t430sJ37, that is strange, so you say it goes through the motions of installing, or no?03:31
red5Software Center is derpy sometimes that way03:31
schnoodlesHey I just bought a new laptop and am going to partition it to install a few OS's I was wondering what a good size for ubuntu is these days ?03:31
schnoodleshdd size*03:31
Dr_willisbananaboydean,  depends on what you mean by reset. the default one is set by the .dmrc file03:31
Karlo_jrib: I used xmodmap to make the Alt key generate Meta, the CapsLock key generate Alt, and the window keys (which evidently are normally Super) generate Hyper.  I didn't bother to make a Super binding, as when I originally set this up, I assumed the hierarchy was Meta - Alt - Hyper - Super, and nothing would be going that far.03:32
J37phuny: it "didn't" install XChat, despite the fact i'm using it right now.03:32
phunyguy_t430sJ37, well just sounds like an ignorable issue.03:32
J37...if that makes any damned bit of sense03:32
J37its just annoying.03:32
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J37some things dont actually install03:33
jribKarlo_: k.  My next guess is that since you didn't have a super key, the binding got changed.  Did we determine if you are actually using unity yet though?03:33
J37then again, when i was running Windows 7, that was derpy as well...03:34
J37...and my Mac literally burst into flames O.o03:34
Karlo_jrib: I haven't determined that.  http://imagebin.org/238720 might be info that would tell you.03:34
phunyguy_t430sJ37 you could have some "derpy" hardware03:34
jribKarlo_: hmm, that's not unity03:34
Mukhthar_Ahmedneed to add PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games" could not figure out. hints please03:35
Mukhthar_Ahmedoops03:35
jribKarlo_: actually, what's the output of « lsb_release -c »?03:35
OerHeksJ37, what is your actual ubuntu problem, all in one line please03:35
Karlo_jrib: >> Codename: precise03:36
phunyguy_t430sOerHeks, he said it earlier, his software center doesn't work correctly.03:36
J37uhh... USC is being picky about what it installs and what it doesn't, and likes to tell me that it doesn't install anything when half the time, it does.03:36
jribKarlo_: could be xfce maybe... Check what's running with « ps -ef »03:36
Karlo_jrib: No xfce in there03:37
J37then again, i'm running Ubuntu on a Toshiba that was recalled naught but 2 weeks after it came out03:37
jribKarlo_: what is in there?03:37
OerHeksphunyguy_t430s, he is talking about crap, and "some things dont actually install" which is so vage03:37
phunyguy_t430sOerHeks, I disagree.03:37
phunyguy_t430sJ37, can you run software center from the terminal to hopefully get some output during an install of something?03:38
bananaboydeanDr_willis:  i have seemed to damage them when messing around with windows managers and i really need to just remove my .xint and .xsessions folder03:38
bananaboydeanfile*03:38
Karlo_jrib: http://pastebin.com/ST7TjpWk03:39
phunyguy_t430sJ37, the command is "software-center"03:39
J37uhh...03:40
jribKarlo_: metacity :x03:40
J37...terminal... i'm new to Linux, bro...03:40
J37hang on...03:40
jribKarlo_: so maybe gnome-fallback03:41
phunyguy_t430sJ37, click the launcher up on the top left, and type terminal in the text box03:41
J37k03:41
phunyguy_t430sshould come up with a window that you can type commands in03:41
J37got it, phuny03:41
Karlo_(Insert random gripe about the "good old days" when I could do a ps and know what every single one of the processes was there for.)03:41
erncic_bananaboydean: is the system local where you can boot a live cd, mount the partition and delete or rename the files?03:41
psycl0excuse me please, hi i have an issue, whent ubuntu 11 try to boot, the screen is totally black, i don know what i do, please i need some help thanks!03:42
phunyguy_t430swere you able to launch software center by typing "software-center" without the quotes in there?03:42
bananaboydeanyes, i just didnt want to i suppose i shall03:42
phunyguy_t430sand hitting enter03:42
J37just opened the usc window03:43
phunyguy_t430sfrom the terminal, J37?03:43
Karlo_Aha, Ctrl-Super-D is listed in shortcuts after all -- I failed to notice that I could scroll down in that list.03:43
J37took a bit of time03:43
J37yup03:43
J37my RAM is almost non existant03:44
phunyguy_t430sdid any errors pop up in the terminal so far? or just random stuff?03:44
J37uhh... one sec.03:44
psycl0phunyguy_t430s are you talking to me?03:44
J37psycl0, he's talking to me.03:45
J37anyway, it gave me a WARNING message on one line03:45
phunyguy_t430sshould just be some "INFO" stuff there.  Next step is to try to install something, and see if anything pops up.03:45
elena-IKis there a way to keep two directories automatically synchronized with each other? so that if I change a file in directory A the file also gets changed in directory B.03:45
jribelena-IK: any reason you don't just use a symlink?03:46
psycl0thnks J3703:46
J37no prob, psycl003:46
phunyguy_t430swarnings are OK as well J3703:46
Karlo_elena-IK: Make one directory be a symbolic link to the other, and then there's nothing to synchronize; they *are* the same directory.03:46
elena-IKjrib, Karlo_: I'm thinking of two different machines, one local copy, one on sshfs03:47
J37it said something like "could not get usefullness from server"03:47
Karlo_elena-IK: If the remote directory will always exist, a symbolic link could still be the way to go.03:47
phunyguy_t430scan you paste the relevant output to http://paste.ubuntu.com and send on the link to us?03:47
phunyguy_t430sJ37^^03:47
psycl0hi, my name is fernando, im from argentina03:48
psycl0my english is very bad03:48
Karlo_elena-IK: But if you want to make sure that you really do have two copies, and just force them to periodically synchronize, then maybe rsync03:48
psycl0please excuse me03:48
psycl0i need some help, y cant try to boot my ubuntu :(03:48
phunyguy_t430spsycl0, what is your native launguage?03:48
phunyguy_t430s-u03:48
psycl0español03:48
mickster04!es03:48
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.03:48
jribKarlo_: I'm off, but I would try in order: disabling the shortcut in system settings → keyboard shortucts, disabling it in dconf-editor, disabling it in gconf-editor, resetting your layout (possibly just create a new user) and seeing if anything changes03:49
Karlo_jrib: OK, the Ctrl-D problem is fixed.  I rebound it to something out of the way.03:49
Mukhthar_Ahmedadded path successfully, for reference to others edited .profile  and added the line PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games03:49
jribKarlo_: ok :)03:49
Mukhthar_Ahmedexport PATH. logged out and logged in. in terminal echo $PATH to view the changes03:49
Mukhthar_Ahmedthank you all.03:49
Karlo_jrib: Interestingly enough, the "keyboard shortcuts" interface does *not* respect my xmodmap rebindings; it thinks that the Windows key is still "Super", etc.03:50
jribKarlo_: that's not very nice of it03:50
Karlo_I suppose I could report it as a bug.03:51
J37phunyguy_t430s, here's the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422487/03:52
phunyguy_t430sJ37 was that the output after a software install?03:52
J37nope03:52
J37that was running usc03:53
phunyguy_t430sok lets do that step now, J3703:53
jribKarlo_: well in 12.10, what you are using is gone.  I'm not sure if the project still lives on at all03:53
J37mmkay03:53
phunyguy_t430spick something random like gparted or the like03:53
phunyguy_t430sor vlc03:53
Karlo_jrib: Wait, what is it that's gone?03:53
J37whats vlc?03:53
jribKarlo_: the gnome-fallback session03:53
phunyguy_t430sJ37 a useful media player03:54
J37ok.03:54
phunyguy_t430s!info vlc03:54
ubottuvlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.3-2 (quantal), package size 1055 kB, installed size 3343 kB03:54
J37install from usc or command line?03:54
jribKarlo_: at the login screen, you can choose different sessions.  You can explore the other choices there.  Unity is the default, though it's a bit different than what you are using now.  Some people love it, some hate it03:55
phunyguy_t430sJ37, install from within USC and capture the command line output03:55
J37ok03:55
RiderxDoes anyone have an easy-to-use joystick-to-keyboard utility they know of?03:56
Karlo_jrib: Well, I hate what I have now, so I'm happy to check out alternatives.  Especially if they have an option to reconfigure, which this thing evidently does not!03:57
phunyguy_t430sJ37, if it doesn't install properly, we will try again from command line to see if it fails there as well.03:57
phunyguy_t430sthen we will know if the issue is USC or aptitude.03:57
J37aight03:57
Dr_willisRiderx,  for what game? I cant say ive needed one of those apps in years03:57
phunyguy_t430s+1 Dr_willis03:58
aceanybody know how to logout of fluxbox03:58
RiderxJust in general, trying to get it for some games on chrome03:58
phunyguy_t430sace, fluxbox has been dead for years.03:59
Dr_willisRiderx,  playing Mr. Fancy Pants? ;)03:59
Dr_willis!find joykey03:59
ubottuPackage/file joykey does not exist in quantal03:59
RiderxNah, wanted to try it with Realm of the Mad God04:00
Dr_willisUsed to be one called joy2key or somting like that.04:00
RiderxI found joy2key, but it's way over my head04:00
phunyguy_t430swell maybe not.  I am thinking of fluxbuntu04:00
jribKarlo_: unity isn't known for its ability to reconfigure.  Still you might try it and see if you like it.  The other big options are xubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop.  Both look similar to what you are using now though they're nicer to use in my opinion04:00
Dr_willisMy Joystick i have actually is a keyboard. :) a HanHo Arcade controller.04:00
J37this is what my machine puked all over me http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422502/04:00
RiderxAnd I couldn't find any instructions for joy2key04:00
giteshhow to remove other Desktop Environments ?04:00
jribKarlo_: you can pretty much install as many as you want and just decide at the login screen what you want to use04:00
Dr_willisgitesh,  which other ones?04:00
giteshK/L ubuntu04:01
Dr_willisgitesh,  basics.. fire up the synaptic package manager and search/remove.04:01
acephunyguy_t430s, do you know how to logout of fluxbox??04:01
Dr_willis!puregnome04:01
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu04:01
giteshokay04:01
phunyguy_t430sJ37, it seems you have some lingering aptitude issues with a failed install.04:01
Karlo_jrib: This system was set up with me being the default user, auto login, no password, so I haven't actually seen the login screen yet.04:02
Dr_willisNo password? Hmm.. or you just dont know it. ;P04:02
jribKarlo_: I see, you should have the option to logout by clicking the gear in the top right corner if you want to try it04:02
phunyguy_t430son that command line, can you do "sudo apt-get install -f"04:02
phunyguy_t430sJ37^^^04:02
jribKarlo_: anyway, I must go now.  Good night and good luck04:02
giteshDr_willis, tried puregnome. it says unable to locate package(s)04:03
Karlo_Dr_willis: I mean, "no password prompt".  I did have to reset my (unknown) password so that I could use sudo.  Goddam sister thought that it was better for me to experience that than for her to just tell me the password.04:03
phunyguy_t430sJ37 then paste the output if it fails again04:03
J37so, what do i type in in the terminal?04:03
phunyguy_t430s(in paste.ubuntu.com)04:03
Dr_willisgitesh,  !stuff are bot commands.. read the factoid the bot said.04:03
phunyguy_t430sJ37 - sudo apt-get install -f04:03
phunyguy_t430sthen enter04:04
phunyguy_t430sthen it should ask for your password, which is the same as your user password04:04
phunyguy_t430sif it pukes, pastebin the output.04:04
Linuxuser1What does the purge command do?04:04
Dr_willisuninstalls an app and its config files.04:05
Dr_willisbut NOT the configs in the users home directory Linuxuser104:05
Linuxuser1why not in the users home directory?04:05
Karlo_Damn it.  Now I'm at the "User Accounts" page, which *informs* me that I have automatic login, but doesn't seem to have a way to unset it!04:05
Linuxuser1And why would there be anything in the home directory?04:05
J37http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422511/04:06
Karlo_Ah, there we go.  Unlock it first, then I can do that.04:06
phunyguy_t430sJ37, please run sudo apt-get update04:07
kvothetechLinuxuser1: if you can login as your user you have stuff in your home dir at a minimum something for your shell04:07
Dr_willisLinuxuser1,  think about it.. you ran 'firefox'   you remove then reinstall  firefox with the package maanger tools.. you Dont want it removeing any configs/custome adons in  your users home dir.04:08
phunyguy_t430syou dont need to paste the output of that04:08
DrGrovEvening. Just installed 12.10. Now I wonder, how do I get rid of Amazon and Ubuntu One completely?04:08
kvothetechLinuxuser1: if you're in as your user in a gui you have a ton of stuff in your home dir for most of them04:08
Linuxuser1oh ok04:08
Linuxuser1So the configs that purge deletes are the ones in the system04:08
Linuxuser1not user directory04:08
Dr_willisLinuxuser1,  if you were running a Ubuntu box with 1000 users.. you definatly dont want to be messing with their homes. ;)04:08
Dr_willisLinuxuser1,  you got it.04:09
Linuxuser1K awesome!04:09
SaidKLEDrGrov: just access the privacy settings and flip off the switch that says "include online search results".  Get to privacy settings by searching for it in the dash.04:09
Dr_willisthis is like opposite of how windows oftendoes it.04:09
Linuxuser1So if I installed irssi and edited it then deleted the app and reinstalled it would I still have all of the settings or would it be default?04:09
Dr_willis!adlens04:09
ubottuIf you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping, or adjust your Privacy settings as shown here: http://goo.gl/kFO4u . Mark Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ04:09
phunyguy_t430sDrGrov, you can disable the online results in the Unity lense under Privacy settings in System Settings04:09
Dr_willisLinuxuser1,  your users configs stay in their home. the package manager tools do NOT touch anything in the users homes.04:10
DrGrovSaidKLE: But I want to completely remove Ubuntu One and Amazon. I do not want to see them at all anywhere anyhow :)04:10
Dr_willisUbuntu One is to handy to remove. ;)04:10
Dr_willisbut i dont think its actually installed untill you run it the first time04:10
J37update in progress04:10
DrGrovDr_willis: I actually love Dropbox for that particular reason more than Ubuntu One ;-)04:11
phunyguy_t430sJ37, good.04:11
Dr_willisDrGrov,  i use them all.04:11
phunyguy_t430s+1 DrGrov04:11
DrGrovCan I install Synaptic and just select everything that has to do with Ubuntu One?04:11
DrGrovphunyguy_t430s: Thanks :)04:11
phunyguy_t430sgot 150GB of space with Dropbox currently.04:11
J37so this SHOULD fix my problem, right?04:11
Linuxuser1But, would I need to use --purge to delete irssi settings before reinstalling it if I wanted the default04:11
phunyguy_t430sJ37, no promises.04:11
phunyguy_t430sbut it just screams old package info.04:11
DrGrovphunyguy_t430s: Argh! I just got 25.25 GB since I bought my HTC One X.04:11
Dr_willisLinuxuser1,  you normally DONT alter the system wide default settings for apps like that. so only custome settings will bethe ones in theusers home04:12
J37lol, thanks04:12
phunyguy_t430swhen it finishes, try that -f install command again04:13
Linuxuser1you don't get what i'm saying! let me re-explain04:13
phunyguy_t430sawww04:13
Linuxuser1if I type sudo apt-get install remove irssi it will remove irssi without removing it's settings correct?04:13
Dr_willisLinuxuser1,  its not really worth worrying about. ;) i rarely purge stuff.04:13
Linuxuser1Do I need to type sudo apt-get install remove --purge irssi to remove everything including its settings so If I reinstall it will be the default?04:14
phunyguy_t430s*sigh*04:14
Dr_willisLinuxuser1, unless you are altering the default system settings for irssi. it wont matter.04:14
Dr_willisie: /etc/irssi/defaults (or whatever it uses)04:14
Linuxuser1Dr_willis so if I reinstall it after I remove it regularly I will have it's default format with none of the changes I made previously?04:15
Dr_willisyour user settings will override the system defaults for most apps04:15
Dr_willisLinuxuser1,  if you were altering SYSTEM files yes..but you RARELY need to alter the system files.. since the USERS files are what you will be changeing.04:15
heoyea_it looks in home folder, then system folder04:15
Linuxuser1Well I guess my question is, when I edit irssi's appearance does that alter system or home settings?04:16
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Dr_willisLinuxuser1,   a normal user ONLY affects stuff in their home directory.04:16
mbrigdanHow is ubuntu now a days for support of ATI cards vs NVIDIA cards (using their respective proprietary drivers)? I remember a long time ago that I was told to basically avoid ATI because they didn't work well. Is that still true?04:16
SaidKLEIf what you want to do is get rid of your settings and reinstall so that it goes back to default, uninstall it, and delete the hidden files in your home directory that have anything to do with it.04:16
Dr_willisLinuxuser1,   it wouldent m,ake sence for a user to be altering system files04:16
linuxuser1but irssi isn't even located in my home directory04:16
SaidKLEReinstalling will bring them back as defaults.04:16
Dr_willisLinuxuser1,    your SETTINGS are.04:17
Dr_willisthats the main pointof a home directory. :) to keep your personal settings.04:17
heoyea_system folder is for all user, home folder is for 1 user04:17
SaidKLEIf you can't see the settings folders, unhide them.04:17
linuxuser1Home folder doesn't have applications04:18
linuxuser1How do I unhide these files?04:18
Dr_willislinuxuser1,  it COULD and it dosent really need to 'have;' them since you run most apps fromthe system binary directories04:18
almoxarifelinuxuser1: your file browser should have a 'un-hide' setting04:19
phunyguy_t430slinuxuser1, just ctrl-h hotkey in Nautilus to unhide or hide04:19
Dr_willisuse the file manager - ctrl-h to show/hide nidden files.. or use the terminal. ls -a to show them04:19
DrGrovAh, much better. Ubuntu One is gone. Muhahaha04:19
SaidKLEof "ll" will do the trick from a console.04:19
linuxuser1WOW Much better!! Now I can see my irssi folder04:19
Dr_willisDrGrov,  like it really mattered. ;)04:20
linuxuser1it has three files. config, default.theme, and fear2.theme04:20
linuxuser1So I guess I should delete fear2.theme04:20
SaidKLEJust delete the folder and reinstall if you want defaults back.04:20
DrGrovDr_willis: Yes it did LOL :) Nah, it did not but I prefer to have everything completely clean and tidy.04:20
Dr_willislinuxuser1,  we dont know what you are trying to do.04:20
linuxuser1Well previously, I made it so that irssi had a different appearance. Now I want to have it back to default look and everything how it was when I first installed it04:21
Dr_willislinuxuser1,  if your end goal was to 'reset the irssi settings for your user back to defaults' then yes.. you remove stff from your .irssi dir.04:21
heoyea_delete the folder04:21
Dr_willislinuxuser1,  theres NO need to use the pacakge manager to remove irssi in that case04:21
almoxarifeis there a gui for irssi?04:21
linuxuser1everything? Would irssi work?04:21
heoyea_almoxarife: xchat04:21
phunyguy_t430slinuxuser1, it will recreate what it needs.04:21
Dr_willisit will use the system defaults linuxuser1  like we said earlier.04:21
jamampAnyone familiar with live-usb booting and macs? I have 12.10 live on my 1gb sdcard, boot into if through Refit, but all it (weirdly) does it go into my Ubuntu's(on my hdd) Grub2. why does it not boot just off my sdcard?04:22
almoxarifeheoyea_: thnks04:22
linuxuser1Ok I deleted the folder. Now after I typed in irssi in terminal it said "Looks like this is the first time you'v erun irssi."04:22
DrGrovIs there any good way that I can test that my nVidia is set up properly? I do not see "Additional Drivers" popping up. It looks like I need to install it? What is the situation?04:22
linuxuser1Mission accomplished04:22
linuxuser1One last question :)04:22
Dr_willisDrGrov,  run the nvidia-settings tool ;)04:23
Dr_willisDrGrov,   the 'software-sources' tool has  'addational-drivers' in a tab.04:23
Dr_willisin 12.10 ;) at least04:23
linuxuser1If I removed irssi via software manager, would it remove the irssi folder in my home?04:23
linuxuser1the one I just deleted?04:23
phunyguy_t430slinuxuser1, no.04:23
almoxarifejamamp: your system is not booting from the sd, in pc language it is a bios setting that needs to change04:23
phunyguy_t430sso in case you reinstall later, your settings are still there04:23
linuxuser1really? what does that do then?04:23
Dr_willisLinuxuser1,  your users configs stay in their home. the package manager tools do NOT touch anything in the users homes.04:24
phunyguy_t430slinuxuser1, it removes the application.04:24
Dr_willisi said that earlier.....04:24
Monotokohow can I mount an FTP share... I've tried doing it from nautilus but it doesn't seem to mount it anywhere that's accessible from the terminal04:24
Dr_willisIt would remove the SYSTEM binaries and files linuxuser104:24
phunyguy_t430sMonotoko, look in /run/user/username/gvfs04:24
phunyguy_t430sreplace username with your username04:24
Dr_willisMonotoko,  theres also the fuseftp tool or was it ftpfuse04:24
linuxuser1Do package managers touch things in the system?04:24
jamampalmoxarife: odd. well if that's true then no way of fixing it like that, cause EFI is different from BIOS.04:25
Dr_willislinuxuser1,  theres only the 'system' and the users 'homes' basically.. ;)04:25
DrGrovDr_willis: How do I then know that it is enabled? It looks like it is recognized. But how do I install it, if that is needed even?04:25
DrGrovDr_willis: It says it is using X.org server.04:25
almoxarifejamamp: a mac must allow for boot from other than hd04:25
Dr_willisDrGrov,   x.org is the x server.. the video driver is used by X. the x logs should say what driver its using. and i think theres glxinfo04:25
DrGrovDr_willis: So I can check somehow if there is direct rendering enabled?04:26
almoxarifejamamp: i am supposing that it would though04:26
Dr_willisDrGrov,  theres also the nvidia-xconfig tool. I always just install the drivers and configure them and off i go.,04:26
Dr_willisglxinfo i belive mentions direct rendering..04:26
phunyguy_t430sMonotoko, did that work for you?04:27
Monotokophunyguy_t430s, it looks like it's there... will it be remounted automatically on reboot?04:27
phunyguy_t430sMonotoko, if you install Gigolo, you can set up the share in that as an auto-mounted bookmark04:28
phunyguy_t430sjust start Gigolo at login.04:28
DrGrovDr_willis: This looks good. $ glxinfo  name of display: :0 display: :0  screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes04:28
virtuapostahi guys04:28
virtuapostaneed info04:28
Monotokophunyguy_t430s, hmm, can I set it up to run before login?04:28
cfhowlettvirtuaposta: greetings04:28
almoxarifedoesnt nautilus have built in gigolo?04:29
phunyguy_t430sMonotoko, not for GVFS, no.04:29
Monotoko:(04:29
phunyguy_t430salmoxarife, not for automounting04:29
virtuapostawill removing raid from live machine affects data anyhow? is there any chances of data loss from remained HDD?04:29
virtuapostathanks cfhowlett, greetings! :)04:29
DrGrovDr_willis: I wonder though, should in any case install that nVidia properatry driver since I have had issues in 12.04? I had some strange errors popping up and thus did opt for 12.10 instead. How is it with video playback then in 1080p? Does that affect a lot depending on if I use the X.org or the properiaatry nVidia driver?04:29
Dr_willisDrGrov,  i always use the nvidia drivers on  my 4 nvidia boxs04:30
phunyguy_t430sMonotoko, gvfs is a per-user daemon.  If the user is not logged in, it is not mounted.04:30
phunyguy_t430sthere may be other ways to mount the ftp share before then.04:30
phunyguy_t430sbut i do not know.  perhaps someone else has more info.04:30
DrGrovDr_willis: Okay. I hope I get it working now then. I had serious issues with it in 12.04. It made some nice popups coming with jockey-gtk crashing etc.04:31
Monotokophunyguy_t430s, it'll work for now... thank you very much04:31
DrGrovDr_willis: On another note, it made my display resolution show up as 1376x? when it should be 1920x1080 by default.04:31
phunyguy_t430syou're very welcome.04:31
Dr_willisit would be weird that jockey-gtk crashes..  its just a package installer tool04:31
DrGrovDr_willis: Yes, it was strange :( I am sad.04:31
Dr_willismy systems show the proper res as soon as i install the nvidia drivers.. even twinview is enabled by default these days in 12.1004:32
DrGrovDr_willis: Okay, I must have had a bad luck with it. I am testing now. Which one should I opt for?04:32
phunyguy_t430sonly thing I don't like about the nvidia native, is a mnor thing, but the big bloated boot screen because of no native fb console support with the driver.04:32
phunyguy_t430smakes me crazy.04:33
DrGrovDr_willis: I got a pretty new card, a nVidia GTS 250 1GB.04:33
virtuapostaI was having 2HDD's with RAID-1 and sdb failed, after closely observing the RAID configuration I also observed that /boot is not in RAID so I want to remove current RAID configuration and create new proper configuration. Is there any chances of data loss if I try to perform RAID removal from sda?04:33
phunyguy_t430svirtuaposta, do you mean making it a degraded raid 1 array?04:34
zivesteranyone have a recommendation for setting screen colors on xubuntu w/ intel graphics ?04:35
phunyguy_t430sor making it a non-raid volume altogether?04:35
DrGrovDr_willis: Did you need to reboot after enabling it? Apparently I got the right one since it is the recommended driver.04:37
Patero-nghola04:39
phunyguy_t430saloha04:39
Patero-ngprecioso04:39
Patero-ngI have a question regarding performance04:39
phunyguy_t430sask away04:40
Patero-ngI heard unity is bad what do you think04:40
phunyguy_t430s!poll | Patero-ng04:40
ubottuPatero-ng: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.04:40
doakesi want to put a little clock widget on my desktop ( unity ).  how do i do that?04:41
phunyguy_t430s!conky | doakes04:41
tenXPatero-ng: if you are ng, what was your predecessor like?04:41
phunyguy_t430shmmm04:41
phunyguy_t430s!info conky04:41
ubottuconky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.0-2 (quantal), package size 3 kB, installed size 42 kB04:41
phunyguy_t430sdoakes, you want conky.04:41
Patero-ngI took it from aircrack04:41
phunyguy_t430s!ot | Patero-ng tenX04:42
ubottuPatero-ng tenX: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:42
virtuapostaphunyguy_t430s, 'm not sure if to call it degraded raid but i just want to take the hard-disks out of raid with no data-loss and to reconfigure raid-1 again by replacing faulty HDD (sdb)04:43
tenXphunyguy_t430s: excuse my inacceptable behaviour04:43
phunyguy_t430sdoakes, there are a million and one configurations for Conky that the community has written, I am sure one exists for a simple clock.04:43
phunyguy_t430svirtuaposta, you can run the RAID degraded as long as you need to, and as long as the second drive doesn't die.  Then when you get a new drive, you can add that drive to the array as a spare and it should build the array again on the new drive.04:44
cute_bettonghi i have a samsung series 7 chronos, and im having some odd issue with the wifi, the wifi will randomly disconnect, and i have to reboot my laptop to get internet back, the router is fine, it's soley my computer, is there anyone that can help me?04:45
phunyguy_t430svirtuaposta, you can remove one drive in RAID 1, and the system will work fine, it is just risky, because you have no protection from another failed drive.04:45
phunyguy_t430scute_bettong, does it run Ubuntu?04:46
cute_bettongphunyguy_t430s, yes, im running ubuntu 12.04 32bit04:46
virtuapostakool! thanks phunyguy_t430s :) now i will start taking remained drive out of RAID process..04:46
Monotokojust as a question, I've been pondering this for a few hours... what could cause 2 Windows machines to Blue Screen Of Death and a Linux machine to completely crash (kernel panic?) at the same time?04:46
phunyguy_t430svirtuaposta, best of luck to you04:46
Monotokoall connected to the same internal network04:46
aarcanegedit sucks, vim is so much nicer!04:46
phunyguy_t430sMonotoko, power surge.04:47
orlokMonotoko: hmm, crap.. marginal power?04:47
Monotokophunyguy_t430s, I have a serge protector... and my other PC which is connected to a seperate router didn't die (don't ask why I have so many PC's, I run a small office from home >.>)04:47
cute_bettongphunyguy_t430s, any ideas?04:47
orlokMonotoko: or is somebody operating a microwave with the shielding removed, or were you arc welding your cases shut?04:48
Monotokoorlok... I had the microwave on, but I don't think it's unshielded...04:48
phunyguy_t430sMonotoko, you dont wanna know how many machines I have.  :) - anyway, it could also be a temp lack of power, like a brwonout04:48
phunyguy_t430sbrownout04:48
heoyea_The matrix04:48
Monotokoheh, so nothing could have come from the router? A bad packet that made the computers connected die?04:49
phunyguy_t430sin taht case a surge protector doesnt do a thing.04:49
phunyguy_t430sMonotoko, not likely.04:49
phunyguy_t430sunless it was 1995.04:50
* Monotoko eyes the router04:50
Monotokonah, it was today XD04:50
phunyguy_t430sthe ping of death comes to mind04:50
phunyguy_t430sanyways..... I'm sure you have unclean power.04:50
phunyguy_t430sor did for a second.04:50
phunyguy_t430sofftopic tough,04:51
phunyguy_t430sthough*04:51
MonotokoI'm in an apartment complex for university... il bring it up with them04:51
Monotokocheers again :P04:51
phunyguy_t430sanyways, it has been real.  I have to go shower.  work comes early.04:51
phuong+i phuong04:52
khimerahey everyone. I installed ubuntu from this image http://files.vagrantup.com/precise64.box using vagrant. Any idea why there is no /usr/lib64?04:52
xanguakhimera: why would you download ubuntu from some untrusted site for start¿04:54
Monotokokhimera04:54
Patero-ngI want to know if the video driver for card hd 5770 runs better on ubuntu 12 then did on 1104:54
Monotokomonotoko@KatieLaptop:~/volumes/vol1$ cd /usr/lib6404:54
Monotokobash: cd: /usr/lib64: No such file or directory04:54
khimerawell i am using vagrant to test my deployment.04:54
cfhowlettkhimera: download from ubuntu.com or expect unforeseen consequences04:55
Monotokokhimera, I don't have it either04:55
khimerais this a precise 12.0.4 change?04:55
Monotokokhimera... check /lib6404:55
khimerak04:55
khimeraahh i see let me try /lib6404:55
khimerai think /lib64 might be something else bc my compiles fail. But pointing to /usr/lib works. Just figured maybe there's a change in precise version04:58
Zimm3rWhen running totem and playing a video I keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/VHJvYkuV I think it is something with Xorg (sense it seems to have a lot of problems and it happens on other gstreamer based video players)05:00
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Zimm3rI doubt it is a "error in the program" like the error says sense Totem 99.9999% of the time works05:01
Zimm3rAnyone know how to get Totem working again?05:05
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Patero-ngI want to know if the video driver for card hd 5770 runs better on ubuntu 12 then did on 1105:06
bananaboydeanNeed help logging in, it goes to login and makes the login sound then returns straight to the login screen.05:07
almoxarifeZimm3r: the problem is a bug in the vid driver05:08
cnzanyone here use ceton infinitv 4 with ubuntu?05:08
cnzim getting this error when trying to compile the drivers05:09
cnzhtpc@HTPC:~/Downloads/ceton_infinitv_linux_driver$ make05:09
cnz/bin/sh: 1: cd: can't cd to /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build05:09
cnzmake: *** [ctn91xx_module] Error 205:09
cnzhtpc@HTPC:~/Downloads/ceton_infinitv_linux_driver$05:09
FloodBot1cnz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:09
DrGrovDr_willis: Still got some issues. The display is not showing up right, it is stuck at 1300 something x 768 when it should be 1920x1080.05:09
Zimm3ralmoxarife: so switch to the ubuntu driver and see; also how did you figure that out google?05:09
DrGrovDr_willis: Any ideas? :)05:09
Patero-ngcould you guys stop using google05:10
almoxarifeZimm3r: that error is very popular, i see it with intel graphics too, and i dont use totem05:10
Zimm3ralmoxarife thanks wish it could be clearer but still thanks (kinda bad yet funny that it is so popular lol)05:11
almoxarifeZimm3r: what version of buntu?05:14
Monotokobah.. screw this FTP stuff... can I run an SSH daemon on Windows?05:14
vikjainHi , I would to know is there a reference site or book  to know needed path and its significance in ubuntu such as initd , rc# , ~/.bashrc etc i wanna read first before i post my doubt. Thanks05:14
Zimm3r11.0405:14
almoxarifeMonotoko: yes05:14
W|cKeDmy wired connection kept dropping, it started yesterday. before it was working smooth, like when my wired connection dropped i still got my wireless on, but now i can't do both at the same time, like i'll be using wired while my wireless is on and connected. for now if my wired connection will be dropped i need to click my wireless connection to connect or my wired to be back on track. any help to resolve this problem?05:14
almoxarifeZimm3r: you should upgrade, 12.04 is damm stable and long term, it would make sense05:15
Zimm3rriddle with more cononical gui05:15
almoxarifeZimm3r: there are other desktops, kde here05:16
cfhowlettZimm3r: xfce and kd3 are available ...05:16
Zimm3rno I am using gtk but don't like the continued custimaization by Canincal05:16
almoxarifeZimm3r: dont use unity, problem solved05:17
WR47HANZwhat is the lightest gui for ubuntu?05:17
cfhowlettWR47HANZ: lxde and xfce are pretty light05:17
almoxarifeWR47HANZ: xfce? xubuntu?05:17
WR47HANZthank you05:18
WR47HANZlxde was what I was trying to remember05:18
Zimm3ralmoxarife: from what I have read it is more and more and pain to remove it but I will think of updating if I continue to have problems with Xorg05:18
cfhowlettWR47HANZ: it's already interated into lubuntu05:18
almoxarifeWR47HANZ: lxde is a nice one, i prefer that over xfce\\05:18
WR47HANZI had it running a couple of weeks ago but blew the install out05:18
WR47HANZim very very new to linux05:18
WR47HANZso I dont really even know the different buntu forks05:19
almoxarifeZimm3r: its not, once you have a second viable desktop that works, stripping the old is as easy as a rather long 'apt-get purge' command05:19
Zimm3rk05:20
cfhowlettWR47HANZ: technically, lubuntu is not a fork as it is an official ubuntu derivative.  see  http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives05:20
WR47HANZnice, thanks for the link05:20
DrGrovDr_willis: How about if I go back to older nVidia binaries? Can I somehow delete the current ones so that there will be no conflict?05:21
WR47HANZim basically just going to use it for an htpc with xbmc/plex media server/mythtv backend05:21
WR47HANZso I want everything very light05:21
WR47HANZand from what ive been reading, xbmcbuntu has issues05:22
almoxarifeWR47HANZ: got an android phone?05:22
WR47HANZso...was just going to go with ubuntu and install those 305:22
WR47HANZyes to android05:22
WR47HANZphone and tab05:22
almoxarifeWR47HANZ: so throw lxde-buntu on it, does not get any lighter, literally05:22
WR47HANZwill definitely research that05:23
WR47HANZthank you05:23
almoxarifeWR47HANZ: tab would make more sense05:24
WR47HANZtrue05:25
almoxarifelxde on droid offers some unique options not avail in the droid apps, WR47HANZ..., if you get my meaning05:25
WR47HANZsort of05:26
vikjainHi , I would to know is there a reference site or book  to know needed path and its significance in ubuntu such as initd , rc# , ~/.bashrc etc i wanna read first before i post my doubt. Thanks05:27
WR47HANZthanks for the info. definitely lots to look into. time for bed though05:27
WR47HANZnite05:27
almoxarifevikjain: be brave, post them doubts :)05:27
almoxarifei destroyed the dpkg data base thing for test purposes, seems one can force a 64bit app into a 32bit system, now to undo the damage is proving difficult05:29
Dr_willis!lfs05:29
ubottuLFS is Linux From Scratch (www.linuxfromscratch.org) - not to be confused with !LTS, which is the long term support release of Ubuntu (currently 8.04 (server), 10.04 and 12.04)05:29
Dr_willishmm.. thats not it.. whats that linux filesystem layout url. ;)05:30
Dr_willis!lhs05:30
cnzis amd64 just for amd 64bit chipset systems05:30
somsip!fhs | Dr_willis05:30
ubottuDr_willis: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier05:30
vikjainalmoxarife http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422595/05:30
cnzor will it work for intel 64bit systems?05:30
Dr_willishttp://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html05:30
Dr_williscnz,  its for intel also05:31
cnzk05:31
Zimm3rOk almoxarife i uninstalled the proprietary driver and am now getting this with totem http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422596/05:31
almoxarifevikjain: you want to understand then 'apt' and 'dpkg' , the backbone of 'deb'05:34
almoxarifeZimm3r: the issue is corrected in version 12.04, xorg-edgers may have also fixed it (thats a guess)05:36
Zimm3rand your not just saying that to get me to upgrade right? :P ;) I'll try and update now05:37
almoxarifeZimm3r: how can i say this in a polite way???? i dont care what you decide, but if i was fixating on a bug and found that an upgrade corrected it, i would jump on it, or try the xorg-edgers ppa, that could really trash your box or not (always worked for me)05:39
Zimm3ralmoxarife: sorry I meant it as a joke no meaness intended05:39
almoxarifeZimm3r: taken as a joke, i dont txt smileys well05:40
Zimm3rok05:41
almoxarifeZimm3r: backup your important stuff in your /home dir and get yourself into a long term support version05:41
almoxarifeso no dpkg gurus? how to strip a package from the database that really does not exist?05:42
spinnerdoes anyone know where I can find a flowchart or explanation of how keyboard data is handled in Ubuntu  ?  Which layer..  kernel.xwindows  creates the scancodes, keycodes, keysyms ?05:42
locojayhi when connecting to vnc ubuntu 12.04 the screen redraws slowly. any i can have vnc work flawlessly. using vnc4server05:43
spinnerI can't find a concise simple explanation what would help in writing a tutorial on altering keymapping05:44
Shudorshonহুম05:51
Shudorshonঅবস্থা খারাপ05:51
arvindethernet not working ubuntu05:54
arvindcan anyone help me out?05:54
brady2600hi, i have sort of usb to sd card adapter, is there some way i can get it working on ubuntu?05:55
arvindsorry its wireless, through ethernet cable I can connect05:55
arvindbut it is not detecting any wireless network05:56
Nico_hello good morning any one knows how to disable a audio hardware by the audio panel.. im traing to install a SB audigy SE alsa mixer mute but still not loadding (the old way) is configuring ~/asoundrc to take 7.1 or 5.1 but i have only 2.1 speakers so is not the problem only the /aplications/sounds does not click left .. so im a litl confused on the way hardware listener shows the ouputs maeby someone change the alsa-base script withou05:57
DrGrovAnyone else experiencing issues using the nvidia-current on 12.10? I can not get this installed at all. It just stucks at 1360x768 even though it should go to 1920x1080 as I had it on 10.04.05:58
Nico_me DrGrov  work on 64005:58
crazyhairYES!!05:59
crazyhairUbuntu is truly the BEST LINUX OS in existence05:59
DrGrovNico_: Ah, you are stuck on so low resolution?05:59
crazyhairI do not think or believe there is any better linux version than Ubuntu05:59
crazyhairI heard there will be a TV with Ubuntu is an OS, is that true?05:59
DrGrovI wonder, how can I remove these current nVidia drivers I am using? I will build it manually. Damn it, this can not be happening in 2012.06:00
Nico_1920 x 1080 (60) still tryng to make the boys waking up abut pc resolutions .. but nothing DrGrov06:00
Nico_DrGrov:  do you install a beta06:00
crazyhairHey guys will .NET and DirectX be supported in the future for Ubuntu?06:00
DrGrovNico_:  No, I use the nvidia-current which is tested according to Additional Drivers / Software Sources -> Additional Drivers.06:01
DrGrovI wonder, I perhaps should try to remove the xorg.conf and just let it generate a new one upon reboot.06:01
Nico_you.. you are old player what do you got ??? DrGrov06:02
Nico_stop working ??06:02
DrGrovNico_: Got where?06:02
vikjainalmoxarife Yes06:02
cnzanyone know what package I need to install for gusb Im getting this error06:02
cnzNo package 'gusb' found06:02
Nico_i still having problems -.. like the card stops but im ussing low at a .. 1600 x 126006:03
crazyhairHey guys?06:03
Nico_is not so cold here06:03
almoxarifevikjain: yes?06:03
Nico_i DrGrov  what model of nvidia06:04
DrGrovNico_: A nVidia GTS250 1GB PCI-E 16X06:04
almoxarifevikjain: yes to what question?06:04
Nico_DrGrov: wait06:04
vikjainalmoxarife i want to understand the apt , dpkg in deb pacakating06:05
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Nico_DrGrov:  wide lcd ctr ?? vga hdmi s-video div ??06:06
jordan_exit06:06
almoxarifevikjain: that makes two of us then, i google myself, i dont have a link to offer up for the definative guide to apt or dpgk06:06
almoxarife!dpkg06:07
ubottudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.06:07
DrGrovGood. Why the hell did I even wait? I got linux-headers-generic installed. Just time to build it myself then, an older version of the nVidia.06:07
almoxarife!apt06:07
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)06:07
DrGrovNico_: What are you mumbling about?06:07
DrGrovNico_: Where are you exactly?06:07
Nico_current is 3-04 stable06:07
Nico_or 0606:07
Nico_updates !!06:07
almoxarifevikjain: there you go, the starter primer, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto06:08
Nico_im talking about your ouput to the screen ??06:08
Nico_and what type of screen do you have06:08
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Nico_im traing frist configure the audio for two ways the SB audigy SE and The HDMI output but need to stop at oll cost the S-PDIF output DrGrov06:10
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Nico_after that i make an install of battlefield 3 and not stop06:11
Nico_:D:D06:11
W|cKeDmy wired connection kept dropping, it started yesterday. before it was working smooth, like when my wired connection dropped i still got my wireless on, but now i can't do both at the same time, like i'll be using wired while my wireless is on and connected. for now if my wired connection will be dropped i need to click my wireless connection to connect or my wired to be back on track. any help to resolve this problem?06:12
tenXW|cKeD: done any updating?06:12
vikjainalmoxarife thanks a lot..!!06:12
Nico_Nice card guy =)06:12
W|cKeDyup06:13
W|cKeDdoes it affect if i do some updates?06:13
Nico_i need real poweer here ^06:14
crazyhairShouldn't updates fix problems and not bring more?06:14
W|cKeDi mean i do sudo apt-get upgrade tenX06:14
tenXW|cKeD: of course it can06:14
tenXW|cKeD: could be a driver issue for instance06:14
W|cKeDso is there any ways to rollback?06:14
Nico_why do not cd at /media/cdrom/pool/main and press tab fer one week 4 free :D06:15
tenXW|cKeD: yes but i'd rather try to compile an up-to-date driver06:15
jamampEFI and grub bootloading is annoying, cannot for the life of me get it to work06:15
cnzwhat package do i need to install for installing gudev-1.006:15
tenXW|cKeD: actually on ubuntu you should be able to run an earlier kernel06:15
Nico_that's im tolking the updates not come tested06:15
W|cKeDtenX,  how?06:15
tenXW|cKeD: just by picking it at boot06:16
tenXwell got no grub menu at bootup?06:16
tenXthen press TAB06:16
tenXit should come up06:16
prakashcan anyone give me the link of redhat satellite iso06:16
prakash??06:16
cnzno one know the answer?06:17
Nico_apt-titude install c***06:17
W|cKeDi'm having a dualOS here so when i do chose the distro before anything will appear on screen i have to press TAB?06:17
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Nico_hello Guest45814  good morning06:18
bazhangW|cKeD, shift at boot to get grub06:18
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bazhangNico_, stay on topic06:18
tenXW|cKeD: dual os with grub as the boot loader should give you the choice of previous kernel versions06:18
tenXbazhang: good morning is already considered ot?06:20
bazhangtenX, let's move on06:20
tenXbazhang: lead the way :)06:21
bazhangit's shift to get grub tenX W|cKeD06:21
tenXbazhang: tab has always worked for me?06:21
W|cKeDi'll try thanx bazhang & tenX :) atlast someone do understand my english ahehehe06:21
tenXW|cKeD: np && gl06:22
gtmanfredyBullShark says he needs more pictures for his website https://github.com/BullShark/WakeUp06:24
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FloodBot1gtmanfredy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:24
bazhang!ot | gtmanfredy06:24
ubottugtmanfredy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:24
L4STofSA?06:24
bazhangSm0kEz, disable that06:24
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philipballewgtmanfredy, stop that now06:24
Thetewut?06:25
Gallomimiaoh gawd kickban please.06:25
bashtanovhello! I use win/menu keys to change language. That said, win key alone and menu key alone are received by opera browser. That's really annoying. Do you know how to disable this (and at least is it a keyboard switcher problem or an opera problem)?06:25
DR01D-Engineerthats annoying06:25
jamampanyone familiar with /efi/boot/bootx64.efi & grub.cfg for live usbs?06:25
Nico_bazhang:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422668/06:31
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Nico_i got time for download a dvd torrent06:37
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bazhangNico_, a dvd torrent of what?06:37
Nico_of ubuntu who is the best for server06:37
Nico_in my case06:38
bazhangNico_, why are you telling us this06:38
Nico_http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422668/06:38
W|cKeDtenX, aside from that my bluetooth ain't working now :(06:39
Nico_bazhang: today wel be return the I can hope to compile without net..06:39
tenXbluetooth is a bitch06:39
bazhangNico_, did you have an actual support question? why are you posting your lshw info here06:40
Nico_entire LTS06:40
bazhangNico_, stop posting random info. this is NOT the chat channel06:40
Nico_amd 64 seems not the best bazhang06:40
Nico_bazhang:  i need to move some jumpers to install ubuntu rigth ??06:41
bazhangNico_, #ubuntu-offtopic for random chat NOT here06:41
tenXbazhang: what's your motivation to take care of anyone keeping it on topic?06:44
IdleOne!guidelines06:44
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines06:44
IdleOneThose are the motivations06:44
bazhangtenX, join #ubuntu-ops to discuss06:44
tenXwhatever06:45
FlanneltenX: We have plenty of other places for you to chat about things that aren't relevant to this channel.  This channel can get really busy and it's difficult to keep up as it is, let alone with additional offtopic chatter.06:45
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tenXokaaay06:46
tenXit was only a question06:46
tenXbesides not being the one ot06:46
FlanneltenX: I was just answering your question, no offense intended.06:47
tenXFlannel: i know and respect the rules. also i'm not looking for trouble06:49
tenXFlannel: just wonder about peoples motivation in those cases where it doesnt take over06:50
tenXFlannel: chat is communication and has social components as well06:50
tenXbut why bother about it06:51
tenXrules are rules06:51
FlanneltenX: eh, guidelines are guidelines.  It's not difficult to carry on support in here and conversation in -ot, once you get the hang of it, anyway.06:51
FlanneltenX: and, perhaps with the exception of pidgin, or whatever the default IRC client on recent installs is, handling multiple channels isn't difficult on a technical level.06:53
tenXFlannel: its all good. i was probably fighting for the wrong cause06:53
almoxarifein vbox running xfce-buntu, will the pae kernel function any better than the generic if i dont plan on getting anywhere needing the +4gig of mem?06:53
tenXFlannel: maybe and i c were your coming from06:54
tenXFlannel: i regret it already man06:54
DrGrovHi. Is there any way I can purge and complete remove linux-headers-generic and linux-source? It is still conflicting with my nvidia-current and GTS250 card.06:59
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Patero-ngguys07:00
Patero-ngwhich version of ubuntu runs better graphics 12.04 or 12.1007:00
DrGrovAh, why did I not figure this out before. I did not even have linux-source installed LOL07:00
DrGrovSorry about that07:00
Patero-ngI asked a question does anyone knows?07:02
bazhangPatero-ng, it varies. which card07:02
Patero-nghd 577007:02
bazhangPatero-ng, do you currently have ubuntu installed07:03
Patero-ngno07:03
tenXPatero-ng: thats more of a driver issue. most of the time it'll be better the newer07:03
Patero-ngisn't the driver that comes with ubuntu the best option for my card07:04
tenXPatero-ng: cant answer specifically but basically more recent versions will have newer drivers07:05
tenXPatero-ng: you can also install drivers manually07:06
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heoyea_open source drivers07:06
Dr_willisThe Open sourced drivers can work fine for some cases. depends on how old your card is.07:06
Dr_willisbut if the nvidia drivers can work  for your card, id reccomend them.07:06
tenXPatero-ng: questionable if it makes a difference07:07
heoyea_unless ur gonna play games07:07
tenXDr_willis: isnt his card ati? ;)07:07
Dr_willisNo idea. I dont memoriuze card names any more07:07
Patero-ngati yes07:07
Patero-ngis not old is it07:07
tenXDr_willis: something like hd 5000 ;) not into it as well07:07
Dr_willisThey just seem to have random names these days. ;)07:08
tenXheoyea_: games? on linux?07:08
Dr_willisPatero-ng,  its your card. you tell us how old it is. ;)07:08
Patero-ngis from around 201007:08
Patero-ngI want to play this game on linux I believe it will have better performance then on windows07:08
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SierraARtenX: I play games on ubuntu :P07:08
heoyea_tenX: yea they got tuxracer07:09
Dr_willisati has a good/bad habbit of dropping their cards  from the official fglrx drivers fairly quickly.07:09
tenXheoyea_: :D thats what i thought of ;)07:09
tenXSierraAR: like?07:09
SierraARtenX: OpenTTD, Battle for Wesnoth, Powder Toy07:09
SierraARThe rest are on the windows boot xD07:09
Dr_willisBeen Playing that Rochard Game here lately07:09
Dr_willisgotta love Humble Bundle Deals.07:10
tenXSierraAR: dont know those, not really into gaming any more :) used to play ut2k4 on linux07:10
tenXSierraAR: but they're up to release steam arent they07:10
Patero-ngI believe urban terror will give me better framerate of linux then on windows because the drivers from linux are purer07:10
Dr_willisthen about a dozen games on my steam account seem to have native linux ports.  But its odd that some games i KNOW have native linux ports re not listed on my steam client.07:11
jonathonWhat's the command to make every file in the current folder accessable to everyone instead of just root?07:11
Dr_willisjonathon,  is this on a vfat/ntfs partion?07:11
jonathonDr_willis ext407:11
SierraARtenX: ut2k4?07:11
argohello, I am upgrading a computer from natty, but it is on a fairly old mchine, at least it does not support PAE, so when I dist-upgrade, can I be sure that the new kernel is without PAE?07:11
tenXSierraAR: unreal tournament07:11
SierraARI should've guessed that xD07:12
Dr_willis!permisssions07:12
SierraARWe have that on xbox07:12
Dr_willis!permissions07:12
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions07:12
jonathonCool, Thanks07:12
Dr_willisarosen,  12.10 dosent have a nonpae kernel.07:12
tenXSierraAR: all i play today is cs :)07:12
Dr_willistheres some ways around it from what ive seen.. but stick to 12.04 would be the best net.07:12
heoyea_jonathon: think chmod -R 777 foldername07:13
L3topDr_willis: any idea why?07:13
SierraARtenX: I've been looking for more decent games for linux/ubuntu, havent come across many that are stable and interest me though07:13
Dr_willis'acessable' files could be defined as 'readable' not writeable. ;)07:13
Dr_willisL3top,   no idea. guess they dident want to be tied to the past/old hardware..07:13
tenXSierraAR: hopefully steam port will change that07:13
SierraARtenX: Yeah, I'll likely still be using steam on windows though XD07:14
heoyea_frozen bubble, hex-a-htop, urban terror, glests only games i liked on linux07:14
SierraARUnless they get some linux-only games07:14
Dr_willisMame ;)07:14
tenXSierraAR: why? if you had the choice07:14
notwistSierraAR: you can use it on both. Also it was in response to you saying "ive been looking for more decent games"07:14
jonathonheoyea_, aye, that should be it. Thanks07:14
argoHow can I make sure that a dist-upgrade will take the non PAE kernel?07:15
Dr_willisjonathon,  777 is readable. writeable AND executable..07:15
jonathonDr_willis, Yea, that works07:15
notwistDr_willis jonathon for everyone on the system, might I add.07:15
Dr_willisjonathon,  dosent make much sence to make non-executable files   executable.07:15
Patero-ngI have another question07:15
Dr_willisdirectories have to be executable if you want peopler to be able to access whats in them07:16
Patero-ngwhere to get ubuntu 11 for 64bit phenom ii I can only see the amd64 for macs on the website why?07:16
tenXDr_willis: but if the force is with you?07:16
jonathonDr_willis, Yea, but it's better than going through each file one by one and setting them seperatly07:16
Dr_willisjonathon,  thats why theres the find command. ;)07:16
tenXDr_willis: but hey if it was you wouldnt have to make it executable it would just run07:17
jonathonDr_willis, True, But one quick command to change em all it once is easier.07:17
Dr_willisbad habbits are bad.07:18
Dr_willisdont do any typos when changeing them either. ;)07:18
jonathonAlright, That made it do what I neede it to do. I'm off for now. Thanks guys07:18
Patero-ngcan you guys tell me where to download ubuntu 11 for my amd phenom ii07:18
Dr_willisseen SEVERL people this week asking how to 'undo' chmod mistakes to their systemdirectories07:18
jonathonHaha07:19
Dr_willisPatero-ng,  thats not compatle with a normal AMD/Intel CPU?07:19
Dr_williscompatiable.07:19
jonathonAtleast mine wasn't a system directory07:19
Patero-ngDr_willis are you playing words with me07:19
Dr_willisjonathon,  they made a mistake and had a space after a / path/  ;)07:19
jonathonOy, some people07:20
tenXPatero-ng: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads07:20
notwistDr_willis: is there actually a way to "undo" chmod changes? (I assume there is not)07:20
Patero-ngtenX this is the only version of ubuntu 11 http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/11.10/release/ and is for macs!07:21
notwiststobix: en göteborgare!07:21
blackshirt1anyone here experienced with linux containers setup ?07:21
Dr_willisnotwist,  not very easially. ;)07:21
tenXPatero-ng: maybe07:21
* Dr_willis dosent understand why there needs to be a special Ubuntu for Phenom cpus07:22
heoyea_they have LXC07:22
blackshirt1heoyea_: I need run gui inside containers07:24
heoyea_dont think they have any guis for it yet07:24
Gaddelhi, i have a HDD and an SSD, with windows 8 currently on the HDD. i'd like to install a linux distro to the SSD. how should i handle GRUB and installation?07:26
Dr_willisGaddel,  id put grub on the SSD and set the bios to boot the SSD. leaving windows untouched.07:26
Dr_willisYou could even Unplug the windows hd if you wanted tobe truely paranoid. ;)07:27
Gaddeldr_willis: during the ubuntu install, is there an option to set where grub is? i haven't installed it in quite a few years07:27
Dr_willisDrop down menu to say where to put grub.07:27
Patero-ngI need a ubuntu 11 version for a phenom 207:27
Gaddeldr_willis: thanks07:27
Patero-ngwhy does it says is recommended to download a 32bit version?07:28
Dr_willisPatero-ng,  idiot-proofing.07:29
Dr_willisif the person has NO idea what to get.. they are reccomened to get the 32bit as a 'it should always work' solution07:29
Patero-ngthat's not actually better now days most people has 64bit07:31
laumonierhi ive got a realy slow wifi connection under wy ubuntu session unlike windows which is pretty fast is there a common issue with ubuntu wifi?( im currently on windows all i can say that my mod is rt2800usb)07:31
somsipPatero-ng: 64 bit works fine here on a Phenom 95507:32
Dr_willisi still cant find any mention anywere of a special ubuntu needed for a phenom II ;)07:32
Patero-ngso what version for 64bit then07:32
Patero-ngthat says is for macs and where did the 32bit ver of ubuntu 11 go07:32
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zim_How would I disable logs entirely on my machine? I'm trying to reduce this machine's power usage as much as possible, which includes removing unnecessary disk writing. Obviously this machine will never be networked.07:33
Dr_willisjust select 64bit on the download page and it should be that one..07:34
notwistPatero-ng: he didn't say that most people don't have 64 bit, everyone knows that, its just that the 32 bit version of Ubuntu is more "stable" or atleast is more supported in all kinds of software, but download whatever you feel like07:34
heoyea_zim_: i mount my logs, /tmp ..etc to ram07:34
Patero-ngdudes07:34
Patero-ngI want to install ubuntu 12 on a usb stick from windows 7 how to?07:35
bazhangPatero-ng, why not get 12.1007:35
notwistPatero-ng: use unetbootin, google for it07:35
Patero-ngI have good experience and ubuntu 11 and graphics07:35
bazhangPatero-ng, just cat the iso over07:35
heoyea_theres old torrents online07:35
notwistbazhang: cat the iso over from windows? :P07:35
heoyea_cygwin07:36
bazhangnotwist, ah good point. cmd.exe has no cat I guess07:36
notwistheoyea_: getting cygwin just to do cat instead of using unetbootin is stupid07:36
Dr_willishttp://se.releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso07:36
bazhangPatero-ng, so use unetbootin07:36
heoyea_still possible07:36
notwistheoyea_: never said it wasnt07:36
Patero-ngok guys thanks for your help07:37
notwistcheers07:37
Patero-ngdo you know if quake3 engine runs better on linux then on windows07:37
Dr_willispendrivelinux site has numerous tools to put theiso on a usb07:37
notwistPatero-ng: no idea to be honest, i would think the hardware makes the most difference but other than that no clue07:37
Patero-ngcause I had sweet graphics on ubuntu 11 once07:38
Patero-ngmore smoother then on windows xp07:38
notwistPatero-ng: its possible07:38
Dr_willishttp://www.quakelive.com/#!home :)07:39
notwistPatero-ng: if you want to run games with a high fps id suggest you look into something like XFCE instead of Gnome/Unity thats packed as standard for Ubuntu07:39
notwistPatero-ng: or for slower computers in general, XFCE or similar is better07:39
Patero-ngomg really07:39
Patero-ngbut my computer is not old07:39
notwistwell it could still run better07:40
Patero-ngI just bought it on newegg07:40
notwistless resources for Gnome means more for whatever software you're running07:40
notwistbut if its a new computer, go ahead and try Ubuntu with regular Unity, you can always switch later07:40
notwistgo ahead and experiment :p07:40
Patero-ngguys!07:41
Patero-ngI'm using unetbooing and is asking me what version of ubuntu 11 to install out of net,hdmedia,live what should I use07:42
zim_heoyea_: how?07:42
zim_heoyea_: excuse my noobishness07:42
heoyea_zim_: open up fstab07:43
notwistPatero-ng: if you already downloaded the ISO, point to that07:43
notwistPatero-ng: youre looking at the options to download07:43
Bry8Star{EBHi, What type of Spying activity does Ubuntu do ? or what is Richard Stallman talking about Ubuntu ?07:44
heoyea_zim_: then add for example tmpfs   /var/log   tmpfs   defaults,noatime,mode=0755   0  007:44
notwistBry8Star{EB: it sends searches to Amazon07:44
bazhang!adlens | Bry8Star{EB07:44
ubottuBry8Star{EB: If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping, or adjust your Privacy settings as shown here: http://goo.gl/kFO4u . Mark Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ07:44
heoyea_zim_: tmpfs   /tmp    tmpfs   defaults,noatime,mode=1777   0  007:44
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heoyea_zim_: ...etc u can check online for others07:44
zim_heoyea_: Thank you :D07:45
heoyea_zim_: like var var/run07:45
Patero-ngguys07:45
Bry8Star{EBnotwist, ;) ouuuch / ooops ... oh great, Thanks need to do/apply your indicated process .. thanks07:46
zim_heoyea_: thank you very much07:47
notwistBry8Star{EB: sudo apt-get remove --purge unity-lens-shopping07:47
Bry8Star{EBthanks to bazhang also07:47
Bry8Star{EBwow , thats best/easier (i think) ... thanks, notwist07:48
DoyleWhy does /etc/ppp/chap-secrets create a new entry every time I attempt to connect to my work vpn? They're all the same07:55
Doyledo I use a different command after pptpsetup to launch the connection?07:55
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phr3d13i am having video issues, but only when my computer is left on for a while... once it messes up i have to ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a terminal then 'sudo restart lightdm' will get me back to a working desktop, how do i stop this from happening?08:08
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baranalo08:10
heoyea_phr3d13: maybe clean ur pc08:12
vadixphr3d13: can you give any info?08:15
vadixsystem, hardware?08:15
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phr3d13vadix, i remember seeing "...max number of clients reached..."08:16
phr3d13ubuntu 12.1008:16
phr3d13nvidia graphics08:17
vadixlaptop or pc?08:17
phr3d13pc08:17
vadixkernel version?08:17
phr3d13just updated a few mins ago but ...  3.5.0-19-generic08:18
phr3d13haven't rebooted since update08:18
phr3d13so that might change at next reboot08:19
vadixyep, let's try it08:19
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phr3d13brb08:19
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MK`Hey, for some reason after upgrading I can no longer right click on things in my taskbar, any idea what that could be?08:22
baran#dalnet08:22
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Witweudev eject autoclose cd-tray - anything new against this nuisance?08:23
norwackWhat would be the commands to get sound? alsamixer, pulseaudio etc..uninstalled all and trying to get help, didnt get any sound on my default speakers nor usb headset08:24
phr3d13Linux 3.5.0-20-generic08:24
MK`norwack: I usually need to fiddle with one or the other whenever I have sound issues. It's like one doesn't tell the other what it's doing.08:25
phr3d13vadix, Linux 3.5.0-20-generic08:25
norwackMK`: Yeah, but whats the proper commands to install those sound applications?08:26
lkthomasguys, when I use time command, which one is the total consumed time ?08:26
MK`norwack: sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer08:27
TakeItEZlkthomas: real08:28
lkthomasTakeItEZ: thanks08:28
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vadixphr3d13 how now? is issue still present?08:29
phr3d13i won't know till i let it sit for a while08:29
vadixtry suspend manually08:30
zim_I have a peculiar problem. I'm trying to use proxychains but proxychains is only able to connect to transparent proxies. I can connect to L1/L2 proxies perfectly elsewhere. Any ideas?08:30
phr3d13how?08:30
zim_Note: this behavior is observed even if it is the only proxy being used in PC08:31
RomeoAvaPlease. From last update, one week ago,  Ubuntu 12.10 is not opening. after 3 try is opening in bed resolutions08:31
baranhey don't disconnect me please08:32
RomeoAvaall starts when I shot the comp and Ubuntu said the Gnome is not working but I shut it anyway08:32
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heoyea_dont shoot the computer08:33
norwackMK`: How can i choose my USB headset as the default playback device?08:34
MK`I am not sure how to do that via Alsa, if it can be done. I do that via pulseaudio08:35
heoyea_norwack: install pavucontrol08:36
norwackheoyea_: What would i need alsamixer for then?08:36
heoyea_u wont08:37
vadixphr3d13 in upper right corner click at power gear and select suspend08:37
norwackheoyea_: Won't i need pulseaudio installed to use pavucontrol?08:38
heoyea_norwack: should be already installed08:38
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EthProbhi...i cannot get online because both wired and wireless adapters have eth4 assigned....how can i assign different eth??08:42
ikoniaEthProb: they both can't have that assigned08:45
EthProbwhen i type ifconfig it tells me it uses eth4...when i type iwconfig it tells me it uses eth4 as well08:45
ikoniaEthProb: please pastebin the following "sudo ifconfig -a" and then "sudo iwconfig"08:46
ikonia(is that possible)08:46
ikoniaEthProb: you know that ifconfig also lists the physical device for the wifi device, and iwconfig only exists the wifi enabled devivce08:46
ikoniaEthProb: to it's probably eth4 is your physical wifi device, and eth4 is your wifi enabled device (meaning that is just your wifi, not wired network)08:47
EthProbthanks ikonia i could resolve it ;)08:51
ikoniaEthProb: was I right ?08:51
EthProbyou were totally :)08:51
ikoniaphew08:51
ikoniacool08:51
EthProb:)08:52
TakeItEZ!cookie | ikonia :)08:52
ubottuikonia :): Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!08:52
automaciejsudo modprobe nvidia → FATAL: Module nvidia_experimental_310 not found.08:56
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automaciejHas anyone else seen this in a new installation of 12.10?08:57
automaciej(provided you have an nvidia card and install the proprietary driver)08:57
ikoniathat doesn't look like he version from 12.1008:57
ikoniawhere did you get the nvidia driver08:57
automaciejsudo aptitude install nvidia-experimental-31008:57
ikonia!info nvidia-experimental-31008:58
ubottuPackage nvidia-experimental-310 does not exist in quantal08:58
ikoniawhat repo did that come from ?08:58
automaciejhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1422812/08:58
ahmed_hg08:59
automaciejI had the same problem with 304 driver09:01
sunny_xiaobai5不会用09:05
norwackI think i fixed the problem, but i dunno how :p09:07
_paulHello all09:15
automaciejsudo aptitude install linux-headers-generic; sudo aptitude reinstall nvidia-experimental-310 ← fixed the problem09:15
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automaciejthe nvidia package install script couldn't build (link?) the module because there were no kernel headers on a fresh installation09:16
automaciejmaybe the nvidia package doesn't have kernel headers listed as a dependency09:16
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_paulI am having some trouble with an install is anyone available to help?09:17
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auronandace!aptitude | automaciej09:21
ubottuautomaciej: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.09:21
auronandace_paul: you'd need to explain the issue for people to help09:21
grumpyrj_paul: I'm guessing the reason you've not had a response is because you never said what you are having problems with. How can anyone know if they may be able to help without know the problem.09:21
grumpyrjoh09:22
automaciejauronandace: thx09:24
_paulIt is actually a problem with a Linux Mint install but the guys in their IRC have directed me to you as they reckon you guys know more about these kind of things. I basically can't get past the language selection when I try and install, the entire system freezes up, I have found a few threads about it and have tried to apply the fixes to no avail. I am lead to believe this may be caused by the fact that I am using a Proline Logitech m09:24
auronandace!mint | _paul09:25
ubottu_paul: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org09:25
Myx0x3how do i disable ssh login for an user? ive tryd DenyUsers username in sshd_config..09:26
TakeItEZmint people send users _here_ if they have problems with mint-installer? sounds ... odd09:26
faLUCEhi, where can I find a list of new programs for linux that are much appreciated by the community?09:26
_paulI know that mint isn't supported here but I was going to switch to ubuntu if I was unable to install it. If they suffer from the same bug there isn't much point so I just wanted to clarify09:26
TakeItEZMyx0x3: have you restarted ssh after that?09:26
Myx0x3TakeItEZ: ofcs09:26
evol-gscI don't know what's wrong with my gwibber,I have reinstalled it many times but still without desktop notifications.However,these was a thread rather than a frame...09:26
evol-gscIn ubuntu12.0409:27
auronandace_paul: you haven't tried ubuntu yet so you don't know if the same bug exists09:27
TakeItEZMyx0x3: you add just a plain username or user@foo.bar?09:27
Myx0x3TakeItEZ: plain username09:28
Myx0x3what if the user is "admin" could it bypass the "deny"?09:28
Myx0x3cause the user from an tamplate i got from my VPS host, but i want to disable that user, cause ive made new users09:29
TakeItEZMyx0x3: shouldn't because DenyUsers is the first rule being used09:29
Myx0x3TakeItEZ: aha okay, do need to place DenyUsers on bottom of the config file?09:30
TakeItEZMyx0x3: nope, doesn't matter09:30
Myx0x3TakeItEZ: maybe it works better if i write the correct username, haha..09:32
TakeItEZMyx0x3: that _might_ help, yes09:32
Myx0x3TakeItEZ: haha, i feel so stupid right now :D09:32
Myx0x3well thanks anyway :)09:32
Myx0x3"Permission denied, please try again."  yaay09:33
OerHeks!grub09:33
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)09:33
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gmg85does anyone know of a free tablet and smartphone simulator i can install on ubuntu?09:35
jalcineHey, I want to switch from 32-bit Ubuntu to 64-bit without re-downloading a new ISO09:35
jalcinecan I just install a different arch and go off from there?09:36
stroodlepuphi, i'm in need of help09:36
lhavelundstroodlepup: State your issue, hopefully someone will be able to help you.09:36
stroodlepupI use an hp 550 laptop, and my card reader does not work09:37
grumpyrjstroodlepup: see if your reader shows up in lspci or lsusb or dmesg09:37
stroodlepupit has worked before, but it seems the current version of ubuntu does not support it :(09:37
grumpyrjah09:37
lhavelundstroodlepup: no question it can work just fine with the right drivers in that case. i'm looking around.09:38
lhavelundstroodlepup: Do you know the name of the card reader?09:40
stroodlepupit's an internal card reader09:40
stroodlepupno09:40
stroodlepupwait, i'll check09:40
lhavelundstroodlepup: Could you run "lspci" and post the output to a pastebin for me?09:40
rrajbeHi, I want to write a c program to check owner of a process is root or not. Is it possible?09:40
lhavelundrrajbe: Possibly; you may want to try another channel, though -- like ##programming or ##c09:40
ikoniasure09:40
rrajbelhavelund: Thanks. :)09:41
lhavelundrrajbe: Welcome! Good luck.09:41
lhavelundrrajbe: Alternatively, hit up ikonia in #ubuntu-offtopic. ;)09:41
stroodlepupit only had 'express card' on the specs09:41
ikoniaor not ;)09:42
lhavelundstroodlepup: Just open a terminal and run lspci - then put the output in a !pastebin. I'll find out for you :)09:42
grumpyrjhp.. ricoh?09:42
stroodlepuphttp://pastebin.com/Vtu0jaJ809:43
stroodlepupIhavelund09:44
stroodlepupok09:44
lhavelundstroodlepup: Looking at it.09:44
grumpyrjjudging from that output it seems a safe bet it's an intel :-)09:45
grumpyrjyou sure it's enabled in the bios?09:45
lhavelundstroodlepup: I'm thinking what grumpyrj is, too. I can't seem to spot it in that list.09:45
lhavelundgrumpyrj: Thoughts welcome. :)09:45
grumpyrjI don't even see any card reader drivers for a 550 laptop on HP's site.09:46
lhavelundgrumpyrj: I saw some thread on it not working on the Ubuntuforums a while ago, but since they're old versions of the buntus...09:47
grumpyrjunless it's just part of the intel storage matrix, but most of our HPs have a different driver for the card readers.09:48
grumpyrjcould you give us a pastebin of dmesg?09:49
MsUserchecking am i in ubuntu channel this time?09:49
grumpyrjMsUser: this is the XP support channel09:50
MsUsergah.. this is getting annoying09:50
grumpyrjI kid. you're in ubuntu09:50
snapshots_lol09:50
MsUseroh just stoped me from closing window09:50
MsUserso like alot of people are suggesting i go to ubuntu but i am having such horrible issues and time trying to get it right09:51
snapshots_grumpyr: can i pm you?09:51
evol-gscpci=assign-busses?09:51
RomeoAvaUbuntu 12.10 is not opening. I need to tray 3-4 times until is opening in bed resolution. That is after an regular update.09:51
snapshots_grumpyrj: can i pm you?09:51
lhavelundsnapshots_: Keep the support in-channel. :)09:51
grumpyrjMsUser: at the risk of starting a war, I would be a little wary of choosing ubuntu right now.09:51
snapshots_ok ok09:52
BlueEagleRomeoAva: In what manner is it "Not opening"? Does it appear to be stuck on the splash screen?09:52
MsUserany suggestion on a decent *nix type os?09:52
MsUserbut i have a few thing i need it to support09:53
rumpe1MsUser, Ubuntu09:53
somsipMsUser: the official reply in the ubuntu support channel would be to use Ubuntu.09:53
BlueEagle!enter | MsUser09:53
MsUserthen how can i get it to work properly09:53
ubottuMsUser: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:53
grumpyrjagreed. you would expect a biased answer to that question here.09:53
somsipMsUser: which version are you using?09:53
grumpyrjMsUser: ideally you'd ask that question in a distro-agnostic channel such as ##linux.09:55
grumpyrjMind you, they really hate that, but it'll be fun.09:55
MsUseri tried 10.04, and 11.10 however cannot get multiple montiors working i have 3, interface would be nice to change away from unity and once installed plymouth reverts to text only09:55
grumpyrjMsUser: multi-monitor support is somewhat driver specific unfortunately. what video card?09:55
MsUsersaphire 100290sr radeon hd 587009:57
grumpyrjok, do you know which driver you're using? ati? radeon?09:57
MsUserunfortunatly as i am a "noob" not even sure where to look as i assume whatever is default drivers09:58
grumpyrjoh, fglrx maybe?09:58
grumpyrjIf you install the ati binary blob it may work quite well.09:58
MsUseris there a site i can refrence on how to do this? seems not many places are teach yourself how to use09:59
administrator__exit10:00
grumpyrjso, in your package manager try fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle (I think). That will replace the current driver with ATI's one. Please someone correct me if I got that wrong.10:01
michaelf1997ciao10:01
michaelf1997!list10:01
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grumpyrjamdcccle is the "control center" config tool.10:01
DJones.10:02
agentsoulI would like to shutdown a processe (xsane). Unfortunenately kill -9 and sudo kill -9 is not working. Suggestions? A restart is no option.10:04
MsUseri will definatly try. thank you10:05
grumpyrjbraaaaiinnss10:05
grumpyrjagentsoul: http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_display_and_kill_zombie_processes10:06
grumpyrjprobably ignore the bit about garlic10:07
lancecoderhello people. Here fast-cgi contains logs, where lighttpd turn off => nginx+fast-cgi10:07
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leo2007will services started by /etc/init.d/ scripts automatically restart when crash?10:08
lancecoderno, i'm run this = service php-cgi restart (bash script get in internet)10:09
leo2007so you have to manually restart the daemon?10:10
leo2007sounds like a lot of trouble.10:10
lancecoderyes manually10:10
lancecoderleo2007: sorry for my broken english )10:10
leo2007no worreis.10:11
grumpyrjleo2007: what service is crashing?10:11
leo2007nothing in particular.10:11
agentsoulstill can't kill xsane with kill -9  and "ps ef" sends no "parents"10:11
leo2007are all services in /etc/init.d started when the system booted?10:12
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lancecoderleo2007: lighttpd are logged off when falling fast-cgi (t)google10:12
lancecoder leo2007: yes, comp not switched10:13
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leo2007??10:13
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grumpyrjleo2007: I think that means yes10:13
lancecoderleo2007: computer worked fulltime10:13
lancecoderfast-cgi write to log, where lighttpd stoped10:15
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grumpyrjlancecoder: could you please re-word your question/statement?10:15
leo2007ok10:16
lancecoderfast-cgi have log, if lighttpd is stopped?10:16
lancecodersorry :(10:17
grumpyrjlancecoder: If I understand correctly, no.10:18
grumpyrjlighthhtpd uses a fastcgi module. if lighthttpd is not running, then there will be no logging, except from previous times it was running.10:19
lancecodergrumpyrj: спасибо10:19
lancecodergrumpyrj: tnhx10:19
grumpyrjumm...ok.10:19
grumpyrjnp10:19
EaglemanAny suggestion on what to do if i want to use spice with virt-manager, the current qemu version does not support spice :(10:23
leo2007I have postgre db installed. I do not want init.d to control its start/stop. how to disable it?10:23
grumpyrjman service10:24
grumpyrjwell, if a file in init.d was not set executable it wouldn't run either, but you probably shouldn't do it that way.10:24
leo2007so what is the proper way?10:25
leo2007man service tells nothing10:25
leo2007On redhat systems there is some way to do it.10:26
pbtaaa/quit10:27
pbtoopps!10:27
pbt!code10:27
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator10:27
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grumpyrjthere is a gui to do it somewhere, or update-rc.d10:28
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somsipleo2007: maybe this wil help http://superuser.com/questions/266040/how-do-you-disable-an-upstart-service-in-ubuntu-10-1010:32
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FloodBot1!netsplit10:34
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit10:34
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bmwirc://irc.openjoke.org/0dayz10:36
aahmedakHi guys, do you know if there is an rpm command to know which other packages are using the package XXXX. For example, when you remove a package with rpm, it tells you this information, but is there a way to know this information without removing the package?10:36
bmwirc://irc.darksin.net/cinemando10:37
bmwirc://irc.darksin.net/las_vegas10:38
a_okIn this day and age we like to send HTML mails. Thunderbird converts my bold and italic to *text* an */text/ respectively. What is wrong with it?10:38
somsipaahmedak: rpm is not native to ubuntu. Are you neeing help with another distro?10:39
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aahmedakups sorry somsip, i'll try to ask this question on another channel related with rpm based distros. Thanks10:41
somsipaahmedak: np10:41
hipstarim trying to get dual screen working on my macbook 8,2 but when i go to select rotation it only displays anticlockwise or clockwise10:42
hipstar'normal' is missing10:42
EaglemanAny suggestion on what to do if i want to use spice with virt-manager, the current qemu version does not support spice :(10:42
aeon-ltdEagleman: if any versions do support it then you can compile it and use it10:43
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grumpyrja_ok: maybe you're sending in plain text? that can be set on a per-contact basis or per message. The editor still shows it in bold, but presumably marks it as you describe when you send it.10:44
a_okgrumpyrj: yeah I just checked in my main addressbook all the addresses are set to plain and I cant change them10:45
grumpyrjoh, stink10:45
zombiedeadshothello  i am wondering how to install themes on gdm i just installed gdm and when i open the gdmsetup i just get a small window that says play login sound show the screen for choosing who will log in login as _ automatically select gnome as default session unlock and close10:45
grumpyrjwhat abot overriding it while you're editing?10:45
grumpyrj*about10:45
a_okIt works fine in the editor10:45
a_okjust goes wrong on send10:46
grumpyrjI mean, going "options | format | html" while writing the message.10:46
zombiedeadshoti have 2.30.2 installed10:46
zZommmanyone using kvm here? I'm having trouble with throttling disk access by a VM... whatever I set with virsh blkdeviotune it blocks the guest totally.10:47
zZommmanyone using kvm here? I'm having trouble with throttling disk access by a VM... whatever I set with virsh blkdeviotune it blocks the guest totally.10:47
zZommmwhoops10:47
zZommmsorry10:47
FloodBot1zZommm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:47
a_okgrumpyrj: My best guess is that EDS screws things up10:47
thejollygrimreapHello, all. How do you turn off the dash things on the left with Ubuntu 12.10?10:48
DrGrovHi everyone10:49
aeon-ltdthejollygrimreap: the dock?10:49
thejollygrimreapYes10:49
DrGrovHow is it with modprobe and nVidia? Can I somehow probe out the correct values for my monitor and that way get the correct modline for xorg.conf?10:50
grumpyrjDrGrov: yes. cvt10:50
andiphey guys. you know of a guide for linux-users when they convert to ubuntu? where to find what's installed. a way to start what's installed and such? will any program i install end up on the launcher-thing on the right side of my screen?10:51
aeon-ltdthejollygrimreap: here http://askubuntu.com/questions/38009/how-do-i-remove-the-unity-launcher go down to warrioring64's solution10:51
DrGrovgrumpyrj: It looks like I have direct rendering. The GPU is recognized and also my LG TV is recognized as a monitor. The only thing missing is the right resolution.10:51
thejollygrimreapOk thanks10:51
andipDrGrov: make the drivers with gtk-support, and you'll get a nice gui-interface for setting all those things10:52
DrGrovandip: The problem is that it keeps hanging up a bit on my 12.04 install. I got the correct resolution in 12.04 and it displayed it right until I restarted. It could not write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf then. Should I just have made a empty xorg.conf there so it could write it there?10:53
andipDrGrov: i've no idea tbh. this is my very first hour on ubuntu, so i'm totally new to the ubuntu-way of doing things. i can't even find what's installed on my system ;)10:54
a_okgrumpyrj: It is already formatting as html all the settings are correct but the problem lies with EDS just confirmed in Evolution all the contacts have the checkbox wants to receive html mail grayed out. Evolution probably does not need it10:54
andip...much less figure out what gfx-driver i'm using10:54
phr3d13having an issue: tried to install nvidia drivers from edgers ppa... added ppa, apt-get update, then app-get upgrade, it built a new kernel, but the new kernel fails to boot, how do i get rid of the failed one so i can try again or fix the failed one10:55
DrGrovandip: Ok :) I have been struggling with this direct rendring + correct display resolution for the past 15 hours almost non-stop without sleep.10:55
andipDrGrov: i'm used to a totally empty xorg.conf file though. everything is autodetected10:55
almoxarifeandip: there is a simple method, you need to install 'synaptic' and get very used to it, it will answer all your questions10:55
almoxarifeDrGrov: nvidia correct?10:56
zombiedeadshotcan someone help me find a deb for the old gdm before the version 2.30 for ubuntu  Lucid Lynx10:56
DrGrovalmoxarife: Yes, it is correctly showing up as GTS250.10:57
aeon-ltdzombiedeadshot: isn't that what google is for?10:57
almoxarifeDrGrov: via the config gui, you cant change resolution?10:57
zombiedeadshotim googling10:57
zombiedeadshoti just asked if anyone could help me10:58
almoxarifezombiedeadshot:  you tried the archive repos i suppose?10:59
DrGrovalmoxarife: Yes, it is stuck at 1360x769 when it should go to 1920x1080. I have tried also with the graphical nVidia X Settings tool but no luck. It looks like the mode is missing completely.10:59
zombiedeadshothow would i access them10:59
DrGrovSo I wonder, I got it right in 12.04 but after a restart it disappeared and reverted back. Should I just fiddle about and get modlines for 1920x1080? Or could it be perhaps the HorizSync and VertRefresh that are off in xorg.conf?11:00
zombiedeadshoti found this page but i would rather have a deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gdm-2.20/2.20.10-0ubuntu311:00
DrGrovalmoxarife: Or I should just build me a older version of the nVidia drivers?11:00
almoxarifeDrGrov: how about via randr? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RandR11:00
DrGrovalmoxarife: Okay, looking into it. I will download it.11:01
almoxarifeDrGrov: i dont see why you need the old driver, unless exaustive googling kept pointing to 'it' as the solver11:02
wdnzHi.11:03
DrGrovalmoxarife: aRandR gives the same output as a maximum, 1360x768.11:03
wdnzWhat is the easiest way to configure a mailserver on ubuntu?11:03
almoxarifeDrGrov: this is what i have used in the past, for doc https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions11:03
andipanyone know of a guide for linux-users when they convert to ubuntu? will any program i install end up on the launcher-thing on the right side of my screen? is there any way i can get access to a shell/term? what's my root-password, if i need one (i never set one, nor was asked to do so)? what's standard filemanager for ubuntu, and where do i find it?11:04
almoxarifeandip: there is a simple method, you need to install 'synaptic' and get very used to it, it will answer all your questions11:04
andipalmoxarife: i changed my questions, you should change your answer ;)11:04
isr45how can i install tata photon in ubuntu 12.04 ?11:05
almoxarifeandip: same answer applies, no root, use sudo/gksu11:05
DrGrovalmoxarife: Thanks. I think I will just give it a go by building it myself. I will install the latest linux-source and linux-generic and then buld it by myself.11:05
isr45do i have to install any packages for that ?11:05
almoxarifeisr45: is there a installable 'deb' avail?11:06
andipalmoxarife: afaik, to use sudo, i need a shell. i've not figured out how to get to one yet11:06
isr45i don't know11:06
isr45how can i chk that ?11:06
andipisr45: use synaptic ;p11:07
DrGrovalmoxarife: But I will go with that X config link you pasted first ;-)11:07
DrGrovalmoxarife: I think it is just hanging about that. Nothing serious otherwise I hope. I can always build from scratch.11:07
almoxarifeDrGrov: the second value seems low11:08
DrGrovalmoxarife: But I wonder, there is again another update for linux-source and linux-generic. That is worrying. That means I gotta every time rebuild it over and over again.11:08
almoxarifeDrGrov: the modules you mean?11:08
DrGrovalmoxarife: Perhaps yes, it might just be that I gotta set the HorizSync and VertRefresh values higher but the problem is that I can not find them for my LG TV.11:08
nickchrAny suggestions on which distro to use for a system that only requires to run a Perl app on boot? Has to be as minimal as possible as it uses IDE Flash memory (DOM) and the board is the VIA EPIA ME6000G??11:08
DrGrovalmoxarife: Yes, installing linux-source and linux-generic kernels means I gotta install the actual nvidia-current, either from nVidia themselves or from the repositories, again and again which strikes my nerve.11:09
almoxarifeDrGrov: try the link i put up first11:10
almoxarifeandip: what happens if you hit, alt-f1?11:10
RomeoAvaan update at Unity or at Gnome will solve the problem?11:11
andipalmoxarife: something called "dash home" is activated on my uppermost left corner11:11
DrGrovalmoxarife: Yes, will do. The only problem I feel is that I will still update all those important security updates like kernel etc. and it will brake it again and again.11:11
andipalmoxarife: if i press it some folder is opened. which i'm guessing is the default file-manager?11:12
andipno, a menu of kinds11:12
almoxarifeandip: no idea,11:12
andipalmoxarife: what did you expect to happen when i pressed alt+f1?11:12
almoxarifei expected runner to pop up, try alt-f2 andip...11:13
DrGrovalmoxarife: Perhaps a PM is in order if you do not mind?11:13
DrGrovalmoxarife: I can copy paste my current xorg.conf for you as a pastebin so you can see what is up.11:13
almoxarifeDrGrov: i dont do pm, sorry11:13
DrGrovalmoxarife: Ok, good.11:13
almoxarifeDrGrov: pastebin it11:14
DrGrovalmoxarife: here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422989/11:15
andipalmoxarife: yeah. seems i can type in commands to run in that alt+f2 window11:15
arun_hi there11:15
arun_my laptop is not showing wireless connections11:15
arun_can anyone help me out11:15
arun_?11:15
antonius??11:15
arun_using ubuntu 12.0411:15
arun_I can connect through ethernet cable11:16
almoxarifeDrGrov: yeap, looks pretty much like mine, did you try increasing resolution via the link/?11:16
arun_but wireless is not being detected11:16
almoxarifeandip: good, now type 'terminal' in the box11:16
DrGrovalmoxarife: Not yet. I am reading into it now.11:16
arun_please help me out troubleshooting wireless11:16
almoxarifearun_: expand on the issue11:17
ptrvhi, I am running Ubuntu 12.10 and sometimes the nm-applet doesnt show the signal strength. Connection still up but the nm-applet icon shows no signal. Anyone with the same issue?11:18
arun_Can anyone tell me how can i configure wireless on ubuntu 12.0411:18
DrGrovalmoxarife: So I start with gtf first and then xrandr?11:18
almoxarifeDrGrov: i think i used 'cvn'11:18
DrGrovalmoxarife: Ok11:19
andipalmoxarife: the window vanishes, and nothing new pops up. never mind though.. all i really need is to see how steam works. anyone know if steam is easily installable?11:19
almoxarifeandip: steam has its own channel, #ubuntu-steam11:19
koleopteroneed some help with ndiswrapper here if there's anyone available11:20
morfeo_81hi11:20
andipalmoxarife: thanks for your assistance :)11:20
arun_almoxarife : my laptop is not detecting wireless networks11:20
arun_any11:20
almoxarifearun_: using it right now?11:20
arun_yes11:20
morfeo_81How recover data from hard drive? I try foremost recover many files but not mine...why?11:21
almoxarifearun_: pastebin /var/log/syslog after trying to cycle thru wifi, yes, you may/will disconnect, return with the pastebin11:21
DrGrovalmoxarife: Here I got it with cvt11:22
morfeo_81Please, How recover data from hard drive? I try foremost recover many files but not mine...why?11:23
almoxarifemorfeo_81: I try foremost recover many files but not mine...why? <-- that is confusing11:24
oodles_arunhi almoxarife11:24
oodles_arunarun here11:24
almoxarife:)11:24
oodles_arunyes please tell11:24
almoxarifetell?11:25
oodles_arunwireless issue11:25
almoxarifearun_: pastebin /var/log/syslog after trying to cycle thru wifi, yes, you may/will disconnect, return with the pastebin11:25
oodles_arunlaptop not detecting wireless networks11:25
oodles_arunok11:25
morfeo_81<almoxarife>: I use foremost software and  from 1 tera recover 15 giga but the files are copy of the same images of drivers of the hard drive. I don't found any image I put in that hard drive and any document11:26
almoxarife!pastebin11:26
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:26
DrGrovalmoxarife: I tried adding it with xrandr but nothing happened. I probably forgot to add the --addmode line and path to where.11:26
almoxarifemorfeo_81: cant help you, try ##linux11:26
almoxarifeDrGrov: there is a sequence that must be followed11:27
oodles_aruni did not understand cycle thru wifi11:27
morfeo_81thanks however !11:27
DrGrovalmoxarife: Okay so just doing like this is nothing: xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync11:27
koleopteroneed some help with ndiswrapper here if there's anyone available :(11:28
almoxarifeoodles_arun: try using wifi first, that will collect data to /var/log/syslog, then pastebin as per above11:28
morfeo_81HI!11:28
almoxarifeDrGrov: addmode? , i am not looking at the doc11:29
DrGrovalmoxarife: Ok, it said on the wiki link that it should work like that.11:29
oodles_arunalmoxarife: pastebin.com/ajbCX8Kd11:29
aeon-ltdkoleoptero: describe it the best you can, the channel will do their best11:29
koleopteroaeon-ltd, one minute, I found something with google after all, if it doesn't work I'll come again11:30
koleopterostupid thing been torturing me for a whole day now11:30
koleopterolol11:30
almoxarifeoodles_arun: nothing there, wifi related11:31
DrGrovalmoxarife: I will just put in xorg.conf as it is said. Hopefully works. If not, I try again.11:31
myheroalmoxarife: what is the irc logs link ?11:31
shahid_how good is usb3 support in 64bit desktop?11:32
almoxarifemyhero: no idea11:32
myheroalmoxarife: how to get list for all the channels ?11:33
almoxarifemyhero: no idea11:34
myheroon the current server ?11:34
almoxarifemyhero: no idea11:34
myheroany android and firefox channels ?11:34
myheroalmoxarife: ?? ^^11:35
Steph_De_Chinemyhero: Firefox channel is #firefox. Get Firefox from http://www.firefox.com/ | Go to irc.mozilla.org for #thunderbird and #seamonkey | http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-and-diagnose-firefox-problems11:36
almoxarifeoodles_arun: Dec 10 16:56:22 arun-Vostro-1550 dnsmasq[32659]: warning: no upstream servers configured <-- issue?11:36
Steph_De_Chinemyhero: And #android is for Android too.11:36
myheroSteph_De_Chine: thnx, any android channel ? and how to see irc logs ?11:37
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myheroSteph_De_Chine: thnx and for logs ?11:37
Steph_De_Chinemyhero: What logs?11:37
myheroSteph_De_Chine: like current chat logs in this channel ? i want some older logs!11:38
almoxarifemyhero: pls stay on topic, logs are not11:38
DrGrovalmoxarife: I added it like it said on the wiki. I am about to reboot to see what happens, I hope it will work.11:39
almoxarifeDrGrov: good luck11:39
DrGrovalmoxarife: Thanks :)11:39
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myheroalmoxarife: i want some older logs for this channel only....for some other troubleshooting suggestions11:39
DrGrovalmoxarife: Hopefully I will be back soon... Real soon....11:39
* DrGrov says his famous last words11:39
DJones!logs | myhero Is this what you're looking for,11:40
ubottumyhero Is this what you're looking for,: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/11:40
micjan02how do i do "git show" in svn?11:40
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myheroDJones: thnx...maybe it will help thnx again11:40
almoxarife!git11:41
ubottugit is a distributed revision control/software code management project created by Linus Torvalds. For more information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)11:41
DrGrovalmoxarife: Absolutely nothing happened. Still stuck at 1360x768.11:44
almoxarifeDrGrov: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and syslog11:45
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DrGrovalmoxarife: Okay, will do.11:45
wave49how can i connect tata photon in ubuntu 12.04 ?11:45
ikoniatata python ?11:45
ikoniahow is that different from normal python ?11:46
almoxarifewave49: is that a fone?11:46
wave49no data card11:46
ikoniaooh photon11:46
wave49tata photon+11:46
parapanHi there ..cannot login to ubuntu after installing artistx; error:Gnome power manager was not installed correctly; df -h shows /dev/sda6 as 100% used; I've booted with LiveDVD, root user and deleted approx 30 GB but df -h shows the same result ...can someone support pls ???11:47
almoxarifewave49: how does it connect to the machine?11:47
ikoniaparapan: what's on /dev/sda6 ?11:47
iljahow do I run a .run file?11:47
ikoniaparapan: is your home dir on /dev/sda611:47
ikoniailja: nvidia drivers by any chance ?11:47
myheroDJones: thnx for logs link....i got what i wanted but to bring to your notice, the second link - http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode is not opening11:47
wave49i just plug in and then it shows connected to CDMA network11:47
iljaikonia: no, mplabx11:48
parapanikonia: yes / ubuntu partition, with home folder11:48
wave49but it doesnt cnnect to internet11:48
ikoniaparapan: so that's why you can't login11:48
DrGrovalmoxarife: This is what I got, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423036/11:48
ikoniaparapan: the question is what's filling it up11:48
ikoniailja: mplabx...no idea what that is, but normally just make it executable and run it11:48
iljaIf a program works on Ubuntu under VMware, is it guaranteed to work under a real install?11:48
iljaikonia: how do i make it exe?11:48
ikoniachmod it11:48
ikoniailja: it "should work" if it works in vmware11:49
wave49do i have to install any package to use tata photon+ in ubuntu 12.04?11:49
ikoniawave49: you need to work out what chipset is in the dongle11:49
ikoniawave49: then find out if linux supports it11:49
DrGrovalmoxarife: Pretty sure it is about the HorizSync and VertRefresh values. They are way too low.11:49
IdleOnewave49: do you have usb-modeswitch installed?11:49
parapanikonia: I've installed artistX alongside with Ubuntu . . I guess I took all available space from ubuntu's / for the new OS . . .but again, I've already deleted a .vdi file of 30 GB and the df -h is giving me the same resuls sda6 100% used ...11:50
Yeasihi guys , i have issu with ssh , when i'm tryin to connect somewhere i'm getting  "modulus too small: 512 < minimum 768 bits"11:50
Yeasii have changed sshd_config ServerKeyBits to 512 but.....11:50
ikoniaparapan: artistx ? is that an OS ?11:50
iljawhat should i chmod with?11:50
ikoniailja: man chmod11:50
wave49ikonia: how can i figure out that ? pls help. i am a novice11:51
parapanikonia: yes ...a linux distro dedicated to multimedia ; based on ubuntu 12 I think ...11:51
wave49idleone: yes i have usb-modeswitch installed11:51
myherowave49: assuming u have usb photon+ , most of these dont have linux drivers with them and dont support linux but if they do are linux compatible and have drivers then u dont have to do anything....just plug it in and it will automatically install relevant linux drivers and start working11:51
ikoniaparapan: so you can't install that on the same partition as ubuntu11:51
ikoniaparapan: so I don' know what you've done11:51
Yeasianybody helps me? :-)11:51
IdleOnewave49: see http://opensource-sidh.blogspot.ca/2011/12/how-to-use-or-connect-tata-photon-plus-in-ubuntu.html11:52
ikoniaYeasi: what version of ubuntu ?11:52
Yeasiikonia: i'm using debian squeeze11:52
ikoniaYeasi: then ask in #debian11:52
Yeasiikonia: same issue on debian 10.0411:52
ikoniaYeasi: then ask in #debian11:52
Yeasiikonia: sorry , not debian ubuntu 10.04 :-)11:52
ikoniaYeasi: you're using debian - ask in #debian11:52
parapanikonia: let's start small .....I have booted with Live DVD and I've deleted a file of 30 Gb; why the system doesn't see this space ?11:53
almoxarifeDrGrov: did you take any shortcuts?11:53
ikoniaparapan: please showme the output of "df -h" from the livecd11:53
ikonia"show me"11:54
DrGrovalmoxarife: No, I did not if I understand it right. I added the modeline fully, could it be case sensitive the hsync and vsync names? I put a big letter.11:54
almoxarifeDrGrov: did you see the error in xorg.log?11:55
wave49IdleOne: i have already did that. and it showed that you are connected to a CDMA network but after a second it shows that you are offline or disconnected11:55
DrGrovalmoxarife: Yes, it discarded it completely. That the TV was not "compatible".11:55
myherowave49: also check photon+ box, it must be written on it if it supports linux or not.....btw whats your model of photon+ ?11:55
wave49myhero: it supoorts windows , mac os and linux11:56
myherowave49: what your make and model no. of dongle ?11:56
wave49and the steps that they have mentioned to configure tata photon+ in ubuntu aren't useful for me11:56
wave49myhero: tata photon plus EC51611:57
myherowave49: which co. ?11:57
wave49myhero: tata photon plus EC15611:57
DrGrovalmoxarife: Here I found the first real clue in a thread. http://www.avforums.com/forums/9621206-post54.html11:58
wave49HUAWEI11:58
wave49myhero: ??11:58
myherowave49: yes 1minute11:59
IdleOnewave49:  I'm am not finding anything useful from google, sorry.11:59
wave49IdleOne: it's okay...n  thanx11:59
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myherowave49: is this the same model U r asking for ? this is the manual i am getting for this model no.12:00
wave49myhero: i have the manual, but it isn't useful for me12:00
almoxarifewhat is a tata?12:01
parapanikonia: you mean all lines ?12:02
MonkeyDustalmoxarife  just looked it up, it's phone model12:02
ikoniaparapan: I mean the output of that command12:02
myheroalmoxarife: U r 'babu', u should this! btw its company in india which provides net services12:02
almoxarifeDrGrov: i dont think you followed the directions, start from scratch12:02
myheroknow*12:02
IdleOnemyhero: Mind not insulting people with silly comments based on stereotypes12:03
DrGrovalmoxarife: Ok, I did follow them. But sure. I do them again.12:03
wave49myhero: because it says, that "once after inserting the modem double click and open the folder /media/Photon Plus"  but after inserting the modem i didnt get any such folder12:03
IdleOnemyhero: As a matter of fact your comment is racist and I have a good mind to ban you.12:03
myheroIdleOne: i know...better tell that to your collegues also :)12:03
almoxarifeDrGrov: you dont have much choice, be carefull with the caps, dont use them unless specified12:03
IdleOnemyhero: my colleague?12:04
DrGrovalmoxarife: Ok, I jump in and take away the first capital letter of HorizSync and VertRefresh.12:04
parapanikonia: output has several lines ....showing the partitions that are mounted .....the df -h from the broken distro shows /dev/sda6 100% full ......the df -h from the live DVD shows few percents on each line ....only if I mount the / partitions it shows sda6 as 100% used ....12:04
wave49IdleOne : can you tell me that why can't i get /media/Photon Plus folder after inserting my modem because the manual says that i should get it12:05
myheroIdleOne: if u'll search old logs..u'll find that the comment was once made to me by other user, i'll assume u were racist that time and ignored it and whatever plz go ahead12:05
ikoniaparapan: can you please show me the output from the live CD as I requested12:05
IdleOnewave49: I don't know sorry.12:06
wave49myhero: can you help me now ?12:06
wave49IdleOne: it's okay12:06
parapanikonia: I'll have to type everyting cause it's on the other PC .....should I do it on screen here or on pastebin ?12:06
wave49myhero: can u tell me why can't i get that folder ?12:06
ikoniaparapan: does your other machine have access to the internet ?12:07
ikoniaparapan: (the problem machine with the livecd)12:07
parapanikonia: I can configure ...start with live DVD, set up the network connection and then access internet ....12:08
ikoniaparapan: ok, then you can cut and paste into a pastebin and just give me the URL or use pastebinit and give me the URL12:08
KETANhi12:10
KETANi am new and need help12:10
fidel_KETAN: start with a problem describtion12:11
DJones KETAN Welcome to the channel, just ask your question on one line and if somebody is able to help, I'm sure they'll start responding12:11
KETANwant to start using Ubuntu but have still not , can I install it on windows12:11
KETANand have something like a dual OS ?12:12
BrentI have just installed windows 7. I meant to leave some space for ubuntu but forgot. Will ubuntu be able to resize my ntfs partition sot hat I can dual boot, or will I need to start from scratch?12:12
ikoniaBrent: I suggest you resize it from a livecd before trying to install ubuntu12:13
ikoniaBrent: then make sure you run chkdisk from windows after the re-size12:13
fidel_KETAN: you can either install it (ubuntu) on a free partition and then have a dual-boot machine - or install it inside a virtual machine inside windows - or just use a live-cd of ubuntu to take a first look12:13
xboxubuntu on 36012:13
almoxarifeKETAN: you can install ubuntu via wubi.exe , that would run using win/ntfs(the windows drive)12:13
KETANwhat is Live cd ?12:14
ikonia!install | KETAN12:14
ubottuKETAN: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate12:14
ikoniaKETAN: please read the link for how to use/install ubuntu12:14
ikoniaKETAN: please also read https://help.ubuntu.com to get an idea of how to actually use ubuntu12:14
KETANok12:14
xboxwhat application for make a screenshot on ubuntu 10.10 ?12:15
DJonesxbox: As far as I'm aware, you can't install ubuntu on an xbox 36012:15
xboxunbuntu is on my 360 actualy12:15
almoxarifexbox: if all else fails, vlc!12:15
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ikoniaxbox: scrot12:16
xboxscrot ?12:16
xboxi dont speak english12:16
ikoniaxbox: that is the application name12:16
xboxi understand very little12:17
MonkeyDustKETAN  xbox what is your language?12:17
almoxarifexbox: xbox is windows aint it?12:17
xboxscrot is a application for a screenshot ,?12:17
Germanaz0hello everybody, I found a bug on ubuntu appstore xD12:17
Germanaz0http://ubuntuone.com/009LnJDqPbiG50047Lylep12:17
xboxfrench12:17
MonkeyDustxbox what is your language?12:17
MonkeyDust!fr12:17
ubottuNous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.12:17
ikoniaxbox: correct12:17
parapan2ikonia: http://pastebin.com/kDYXsWkf - first output only the LiveDVD ...second output ....with 167GB partition(ubuntu) mounted and 24 Gb partition (artistx) mounted12:17
xboxthank you12:17
KETANEnglish12:17
ikoniaparapan2: ok, how are you deleting the files ?12:18
almoxarifeGermanaz0: gratuito does not work?12:19
Germanaz0gratuito = free12:19
IdleOneGermanaz0: if you click on Comprar what happens?12:19
Germanaz0buy now = paid12:19
almoxarifeGermanaz0: yes i know12:19
Germanaz0Comprar is paid12:19
almoxarifeGermanaz0: or 'buy'12:19
Germanaz0so, how a software is free and could be bought12:19
IdleOneGermanaz0: I know what the word means. What happens if you click on it?12:19
Germanaz0true12:19
parapan2ikonia: from terminal > sudo nautilus > browse /home folder > delete .....12:20
Germanaz0it send me to a page to pay12:20
Germanaz0have to fill credit card, etc12:20
ikoniaparapan2: if you go into /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679 are the files still there ?12:20
parapan2ikonia: but for sure it's not the proper way since the space is not freed ....12:20
Germanaz0with price 012:20
parapan2ikonia: nope ..they are not showed anymore ...12:20
almoxarifeGermanaz0: sounds like a deal, jump on it12:20
IdleOneGermanaz0: ok, that appears to be a bug. open a terminal and do ubuntu-bug software-center12:21
ikoniaahhh sudo nautilus12:21
ikoniaparapan2: go into /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679/root12:21
Germanaz0ok IdleOne now I'm not in that pc, tonight will do that command12:21
ikoniaparapan2: look for a .trash or .recycle or something in that directory (use ls -la in that directory to see)12:21
IdleOneGermanaz0: that will gather some info and then open a browser where you can add the screenshot and details.12:22
x_Sup party people12:22
jndcjdcIdleOne: just wanna tell, U r Idiot and Ur act is cowardly rather height of stupidity12:22
x_IdleOne, lol :-)12:23
Germanaz0IdleOne, try to find, nitro, on appstore, do you have the same bug ?12:23
IdleOneGermanaz0: I don't have the software-center12:23
Germanaz0ah ok12:23
DJonesGermanaz0: I've just tried, it does the same thing for me on 12.0412:23
Germanaz0DJones, really, a weird bug, I will write to nitro guys12:24
Germanaz0maybe is a problem of them, setting up the repo12:24
parapan2ikonia: let me understand ...go into root folder of original Ubuntu install ??12:24
ikoniaparapan2: yes in /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679/root on the livecd12:24
DJonesGermanaz0: Its probably worthwhile reporting it as a bug though as IdleOne suggested12:25
Germanaz0ok12:25
x_Guys I have a debian/ubuntu question. Debian is still on kernel 2.6 with Squeeze, Ubuntu is on 3.5 where can i see a list of kernel changes between 2.6 and 3.5?12:25
IdleOnekernel.org12:26
rushiagrx_: what exactly you want to see in changes?12:26
parapan2ikonia: i need sudo to access /root ...what's the password of the live dvd root user ???12:26
ikoniaparapan2: there isn't one12:28
x_rushiagr, I have been thinking about switching to debian because I don't like the way ubuntu is going w/ unity and the shopping stuff being embedded and basically some stuff that I just don't agree with /end rant. The only thing that concerns be about debian is it does not get kernel updates so it is still on 2.6 I don't want to take a step back if I'm gonna lose anything major.....12:28
parapan2ikonia: I gave enter but it doesn't work ...12:28
ikoniawhat command are you using exactly12:28
parapan2ikonia: cd /media/eBRBBRBRBRBBR (ubuntuinstallationHDD)/root .........cd: root: Permission denied12:29
ikoniaparapan2: sudo -i12:29
ikoniaparapan2: you should get a root shell12:30
parapan2good12:30
parapan2That's the point12:30
ikoniaparapan2: then cd /media/$$$$$/root12:30
parapan2ikonia: OK, I have only one folder : Desktop12:30
ikoniaparapan2: please type "du - h" in the root folder (not Desktop)12:31
parapan2ikonia: a lot of files .....12:32
ikonialook at the last number12:32
ikoniait should say $X GB12:32
ikoniaor $X MB12:32
parapan2872 K12:32
ikoniaok, lets try again12:32
ikoniaparapan2: lets do "cd .." then do "du -h" again looking at the last number12:32
x_Ok that kernel.org website has changelogs but it is all very cryptic as I am not a programmer. Can any one tell me in human readable terms a big difference between 2.6 > 3.5 kernels? Like does anything work on 3.5 that won't work on 2.6 ?12:33
ikoniax_: it has some additional device drivers yes12:33
x_ikonia, such as?12:33
ikoniax_: however if you don't know what it does why do you want it12:33
ikoniajust use what your distro provides12:34
x_ikonia,did you see my above post to rushiagr?12:34
ikoniax_: the change logs are written in English, you're capable of reading what's been added12:34
x_ikonia, reading yes, it does not mean I understand what it says12:34
ikoniax_: if you don't understand it, then you don't need it12:34
ikoniax_: just use what the distro provides12:34
x_ikonia, alright, last question then is it a big performance decrease from 3.5 to 2.6 ?12:35
ikoniano12:35
x_alright thanks for the info.12:35
parapan2ikonia: it's the same ...872 K ...but I guess is calculating the files of the LiveCD not of the broken install ....12:35
ikoniaparapan2: what command exactly are you typing12:36
parapan2ikonia: open terminal / sudo -i / root bash on live DVD / cd /media/e2442xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/root   /   du -h12:37
ikoniaparapan2: apologies, "du -h ."12:37
ikoniaparapan2: then do "cd .." and redo "du -h ."12:37
ikoniaactually, you don't need the .12:38
ikoniaplease do cd .. then re-do du -h12:38
parapan2ikonia: sorry exactly the same .....872 K12:38
ikoniaplease show me the output of "pwd"12:38
parapan2ikonia: /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679/root12:39
ikoniaparapan2: I told you to do cd ..12:39
ikoniadid  you do that ?12:39
parapan2ikonia: to run dh command at bash ? outside root folder ?12:40
ikoniayes12:41
IdleOneparapan2: the full command is ( cd .. )12:41
ikoniaso "cd .." then "du -h"12:41
iljaif i installed a program, where do i start it from?12:41
ikoniailja: depends how/what you installed12:41
Piciilja: "usually" things get added to specific directories that are in your $PATH so that you can run them from anywhere.12:42
MonkeyDustilja  take a look in /usr/bin12:42
gyre007anyone knows how to delete a file whos name is: ???%5?w3?????c8???r?????Q??fYKqT????r????{??(d????Ӥ??D???????:`b????,M?+m???9?v??7?|ak????????唜p12:43
iljamplabx with a .run file12:43
gyre007wth :)12:43
gyre007i've no clue...tried all sorts of things12:43
ikoniailja: it normally self decompresses to the current working directory12:43
parapan2ikonia: I run the "du -h ." on root# - now it's counting like tousands files . . . .12:43
ikoniailja: however you should see that when you run it12:43
x_gyre007, rm ???<tab key>12:43
ikoniaparapan2: one level up from the root dir12:43
ikoniaparapan2: no, not in the root dir12:43
ikoniaparapan2: in /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b67912:44
ikoniaparapan2: it will do thousands of files, but then give you a summary at the end12:44
jribgyre007: you sure that's not a sign of some sort of filesystem corruption?12:44
parapan2ikonia: one level up ...means in media/xxxxxxxx Ok, got that now ....how do I stop the previous command ???12:44
Picigyre007: if you can get 'find' to well, find it, you can use -delete12:44
ikoniajust let it finish12:44
ikoniathat's why I kept saying "cd .." which puts you into /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b67912:45
parapan2ikonia: didn't got-it right ......that's why I was counting files from the root folder only ....and after that I tought i have to cd .. until the filesystem ...12:46
ikoniaparapan2: just cd /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679 then "du -h"12:46
kilonanyone knows how to add a software to ubuntu software center, its open source , its a well known programming language and IDE , its MIT licensed and can be found here http://www.pharo-project.org/home12:47
parapan2ikonia: done that ...just waiting for the result12:47
Pici!newpackage | kilon12:47
ubottukilon: The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring12:47
gyre007I did rm *w3c* and that did the trick...12:48
gyre007x__: autocomplete didnt work as you were suggersting12:48
kilonubottu: thank you very much12:48
ubottukilon: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:48
kilonhaha12:48
Picikilon: you're welcome :)12:48
kilonthanks you Pici12:48
parapan2ikonia: 161G12:48
ikoniaparapan2: ok, so the files are still there12:48
ikoniaparapan2: do you know the name of one of the files ?12:48
parapan2artist or artistx.vdi12:49
ikoniaok, so cd /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b67912:49
parapan2search ?12:49
ikoniathen "find . -name artistx.vdi -print"12:49
parapan2ikonia: ./.Trash-0/files/artist/artist.vdi12:50
t432How do it fix this?  message: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"12:50
ikoniaok, so it's in the .Trash-0 dir12:50
ikoniaparapan2: rm -rf .Trash-0/*12:51
kilonoh boy thats tons of work :D12:51
DJones!fixdpkg | t43212:51
ubottut432: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:51
parapan2ikonia: let me check if I can find this with nautilus also .....12:51
ikoniaparapan2: no12:51
ikoniaparapan2: just type the command I have told you12:51
parapan2ikonia: Ok ...just wanted to learn some more ...:D12:52
ikoniaparapan2: nautlius will not teach you anything12:52
ikoniaits just browsing a directory12:52
ikoniaso just run the command I've given you12:52
t432i'DJones: Thats not it. Got the message when trying to install tomcat6 package,12:52
parapan2ikonia: for sure but you gave me the remove command so I was wondering why I was not able to find the ./Trash-0 folder ????12:53
ikoniabecause it's a "." directory12:53
yull -a12:53
ikoniapay attention to what's been given12:53
ikonia.Trash-012:53
ikonianot Trash-012:53
parapan2ikonia: the cursor is blinking and the HDD is accessed .....12:55
xslhello guys... i'm doing apt-get -s --no-install-recommends install lxc debootstrap libcap2-bin libpam-cap ( so i dont install cloud-utils - its like 10 more packages of "junk" )12:55
xslwill this limit any feature not related to cloud images for lxc?12:55
parapan2ikonia: gone ....now the df -h output says 22 Gb free ...should I try to reboot ???12:56
ikoniaparapan2: that should be enough to let you boot and sort the rest of your issues out12:56
parapan2ikonia: try to boot and be right back from the other PC ......12:57
thejollygrimreap#reprap12:59
aeon-ltdthejollygrimreap: did the dock thing work?12:59
thejollygrimreapi followed the instructions on it and the software centre didn't work for installing gnome shell so i did it in the terminal and it worked perfectly13:00
b7r3b3Lhey people can anyone help me.. i'm new here13:04
armershelp leave13:07
Pici!ask13:07
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:07
yucan any body tell me the difference between terminal and console13:07
aeon-ltdyu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_console first line13:08
yuthx13:09
parapanikonia: thak you so much bro'; it seems to work fine now; I was thinking in the same direction for solving my problem but I was few "commands" short ...thank you once again, I'll copy the commands for later use ..13:09
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ikoniaparapan: you're welcome13:09
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yusomeone told me that 'you`re welcome' is too official in English ,is that true?13:14
ikoniayu: no13:15
yui see13:16
Kartagis11.10 had a native typing break reminder. does anyone remember its name?13:20
Kartagisit also could locked the screen13:20
JohnWHSmithHello13:20
llutzKartagis: "wife" scnr13:21
Kartagislol13:21
Kartagisllutz: er... that was a joke, right?13:22
PiciKartagis: the only one that comes to mind is workrave, but I've never used it.13:23
oskar-Kartagis:  there still seem to exist some gconf settings in /desktop/gnome/typing_break (see e.g. in gconf-editor). i don't know, if they still have any effect...13:24
SlartKartagis: there used to be some settings for this somewhere in the keyboard settings.. not sure if that was a separate application or something built-in though13:25
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KartagisSlart: do you know of a similar application?13:26
oskar-Kartagis:  http://ubuntuguide.net/get-back-typing-break-in-ubuntu-12-04-11-1013:27
SlartKartagis: I've seen some threads recommending something called xwrit, haven't tried it myself though13:27
SlartKartagis: sorry, xwrits13:27
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iljais the 694MB iso all i need to boot from usb and install?13:30
SlartKartagis: this page, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/182597 , claims that typing_break has been deprecated in gnome 3.. perhaps that's why it's also missing in ubuntu13:30
ubottuUbuntu bug 182597 in gnome-control-center "Typing break reminder delay should be longer." [Medium,Confirmed]13:30
Kartagisprobably13:31
Kartagisthanks oskar- and Slart13:31
SlartKartagis: this looks promising http://ubuntuguide.net/get-back-typing-break-in-ubuntu-12-04-11-1013:31
DJones!install | ilja13:31
ubottuilja: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate13:31
DJonesilja: All you should need is the desktop .iso, then burn it to a cd or usb stick following the instructions in ubottu's links and then boot from the cd/usb stick13:33
iljaDJones: can i just copy the iso to the usb?13:34
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iljawhy is the 32bit version recommended? i have a 64bit platform13:34
lucidohow do I get my samsung scx-4521f to scan?13:35
eskimio2 Questions:13:35
eskimio1. Why is it that Pidgin isn't showing up in my dock/application toolbar even though I have it open?13:35
eskimio2. Does anyone have any recommendations on someplace to go/something to read/etc. in regards to being a new ubuntu/linux user? I just installed Ubuntu last night and I'd like to bring myself up to speed on all the capabilities of the system and also download/acquire useful applications and such.13:35
FloodBot1eskimio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:35
DJonesilja: The 32 bit is recommended because its more compatible with different hardware, but in most cases 64 bit is fine13:35
Slartilja: there are some software, mostly proprietary older stuff, that is only available in 32bit.. but you'll be fine with 64-bit13:35
DJonesilja: You need to burn it to cd/usb using the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto13:36
Slartilja: in my case I'm having problems with some banking stuff that is only available for 32bit13:36
DJonesilja: Or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick if you're going to install from a usb stick13:36
icerootSlart: but normally the 32bit versions are running on amd6413:38
icerootSlart: amd64 is not running on 32bit, but the other way is fine13:39
gyre007im having a hard time decrypting some archive...ive no idea why :) https://gist.github.com/425055913:39
guang_which tool can be used to analyze fat file system??13:39
ikoniaanalyze ?13:39
gyre007the data have been encrypted using this gem https://github.com/meskyanichi/backup/wiki/Encryptors13:40
Slarticeroot: yes, but in this case the bank wants me to download a 32bit firefox addon for 32bit firefox.. and then the addon needs other 32bit libraries.. and comes with its own inhouse-"as stupid as we are"-installer that doesn't just let me just put the files in the right place13:40
icerootSlart: ah ok, that doesnt sound nice13:40
iljaI want to boot from USB13:41
iljanot DVD13:41
ikoniawhat's stopping you ?13:41
Slarticeroot: well.. no.. but it gives me my yearly dosage of tech-rage.. usually keeps me going for at least another year =)13:41
iljastill need to burn? i have installed backratck linux with jsut an ISO13:41
mustafa_hi13:41
ikoniailja: you can use the same process as you used with backtrack on ubuntu13:42
blamiilja: no just dd iso image to usb drive13:42
blamiilja: it should boot then ...13:42
mustafa_could any onehelp me13:42
icerootSlart: but if i am correct firefix is only available in 32bit?13:42
mustafa_new user for ubuntu13:42
blamimustafa_: if you tell us your issue :)13:42
icerootSlart: there was something like "we are using the binaries from mozilla directly and there are only 32bit"13:42
mustafa_i want to install a lamp server and configure it13:43
blamiiceroot: huh?13:43
mustafa_but dont know13:43
blamiiceroot: i have 64bit firefox13:43
blamimustafa_: there are plenty howtos around internet ... you should read carefully. Why are you doing so? for development?13:43
Slarticeroot: that might be so.. but the addons and plugins are 64 bit, I think.. it has almost been a year since I messed with this the last time13:43
iceroothm ok file /usr/lib/firefox/firefox is showing 64bit, i am sure on older releases firefox was 32bit only because mozilla was not providing 64bit binaries13:45
mustafa_sorry  have a problem with php config and link my php navigator with mysql13:45
blamiiceroot: eh, ubuntu really doesn't relly on what mozilla provides13:45
icerootblami: you are not allowed to change firefox because of that debian is not using firefox13:45
iljablami: dd?13:45
icerootblami: and because of "you are not allowed" you have to use the binaries13:45
iljafor USB i dont need to burn? just copy iso to USB?13:46
Piciilja: no.13:46
icerootblami: you are not allowed to change firefox when you still want to call it firefox13:46
iljaPici: no as in dont need to burn?13:46
RexterHi, I'm using 12.04 in classic mode with docky. Sometimes docky crashes, or simply go away during system updates. I'm looking for a way to have docky auto restart if the system finds that it's not running. What I want is similar to how OSX restarts the dock whenever needed, and Windows does the same with Explorer.13:46
Piciilja: you can't just "copy the iso" to the USB and expect it to work. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick13:47
blamiiceroot: i don't think so. Debian does not ship firefox because it has trademarked branding (that fox hugging planet)13:47
icerootblami: as i said13:47
icerootblami: you are not allowed to change firefox and call it still firefox because of the trademark13:47
blamiiceroot: you are allowed to change firefox. It is opensource project13:48
icerootblami: but not using the name firefox13:48
iljaso just ut the iso on the usb...13:48
AndreeeCZhello. Would this netbook be okay with ubuntu? http://www.alza.cz/hp-pavilion-dm1-4210sc-d339930.htm#popis13:48
MonkeyDustAndreeeCZ  wrong channel13:49
guang_which command can be used to analyze fat file system??13:49
blamiiceroot: yeah but you can recompile and package it and ship it13:49
BluesKajHey all13:49
icerootblami: yes13:49
blamiiceroot: ubuntu compiles firefox from mozilla repository without any patches dissaproved by mofo13:49
AndreeeCZMonkeyDust, what do you mean? This is #ubuntu channel.. ? In what channel should i ask? :)13:49
blamiiceroot: you can even pack it with handful of extensions or plugins13:49
blamiiceroot: and it is still ok13:50
mat619Hey there! A coworker would like to have an own session on my Xeon workstation that I use here, in order to have access to a powerful machine for number crunching to access from a Windows terminal server. Any ideas how to accomplish this task? I've never done anything like that, so open for all ideas.13:50
guang_for example,i want to find the sec number of root directory by tool instead of manual.13:50
icerootblami: and earlier versions did not recompile it, they used the binary13:50
blamiiceroot: problems in debian were a little bit different13:50
MonkeyDustAndreeeCZ  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport13:50
mustafa_blami :iam using 12.1013:50
mat619Running Kubuntu 12.04 btw.13:50
icerootblami: and because of that there was not amd64 version13:50
blamiiceroot: I would say they shipped recompilled 32bit only binary because flash and java wasn't compatible with 64bit one13:50
icerootblami: i thought the reason was different but the result will be the same, 32bit version :)13:52
mephistohkdd13:53
Doomahello13:53
kakqgood13:53
kakqI'm be back13:53
mephistohkyes, you are back13:53
DoomaI have a problem with acpi buttons .. for example Brightness down button13:54
hanaihi13:54
Doomahi13:54
BluesKajiceroot, blama , the adobe site version libflashplayer.so placed in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins works fine here13:54
iljashould i format my usb to FAT if i should install from USB?13:57
icerootilja: no13:57
icerootilja: it will automaticly be formated to the ISO filesystem13:58
mustafa_hi13:59
superbbbciao a tutti14:02
superbbbcome si fa a formattare una penna usb14:02
Pici!it | superbbb14:02
ubottusuperbbb: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)14:02
DominciiHey folks, I can't seem to access one of my hard drives in windows, however it's useable in Ubuntu, could someone help? or should i go to ##windows? im not sure which OS is the problem atm14:09
kanliotyes14:09
kanliotbecause its a windows problems14:09
Dominciikanliot: thanks14:10
kanliotis it ext414:10
b14d3It could be an Ubuntu issue, if Samba isn't configured properly14:10
b14d3Or is it a dual-boot situation?14:10
Picib14d3: samba doesn't have anything to do with drives on the same physical machine.14:10
b14d3I don't see anywhere where he said it was or was not on the same physical machine.14:10
Picib14d3: er, nm, sorry :)14:11
b14d3No worries, just trying to explore possibilities :)14:11
kanliotyeah14:11
kanlioteasy to jump to conclusions14:11
mustafa_hi14:12
mustafa_hi14:12
mustafa_hi14:12
FloodBot1mustafa_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:12
kanliotlol14:12
webdaggerI got a question14:13
kanliotask14:13
mustafa_ mustafa: problem with canon printer14:15
mustafa_dont work14:15
iljawhen i install ubuntu nothing has to be formatted before right? the ubuntu installer will take care of all that?14:16
mustafa_ mustafa:even when i configure it14:16
mustafa_a re done it14:16
mustafa_ mustafa still don t work14:16
MonkeyDustmustafa_  what is your language?14:17
mustafa_english14:17
kanliotis that your real name?14:18
b14d3ilja: If I remember correctly, then yes. Just pay attention to the prompts and it should allow you to.14:18
mustafa_ mustafa:english14:18
notwisthey guys, just wondering, is it likely possible that I could connect a domain name I own to my home IP-adress? Not only link it but actually IRC for example and have my domain be foo.com and so on.14:19
EaglemanAny suggestion on what to do if i want to use spice with virt-manager, the current qemu version does not support spice :(  compiling wasnt advised becuase other things could break14:19
notwistor is it something ISP:s tend to block14:19
jribnotwist: ask your ISP14:20
notwistjrib: problem is I don14:20
notwistt really know what to ask :)14:20
kanliotnotwist, i've done it.  not that hard with free-ip.org14:20
notwistif I can have an... A domain? to one of my IP adresses?14:20
jribnotwist: ask them if you can run an http server on your connection14:20
notwistkanliot: that's not what I mean though14:20
jribnotwist: or whatever service you're thinking of running14:21
notwistok, guys, I think you misunderstand. I already have a setup with free.dns.com -> my home ip. No problem there. I want to be able to have reverse lookups working, so that I can claim, from my computer, to come from foo.com if I own that domain.14:21
notwistso my home pc could be alpha.foo.com on the internet and so on14:21
neogarfieldhello14:22
neogarfieldfirst time at irc...14:22
notwistneogarfield: welcome :)14:22
kanliotpoint your foo.com to your free dns name.14:22
neogarfieldthank you @notwist14:23
notwistneogarfield: no need for @-signs, thats only for twitter ;)14:23
notwistkanliot: um, i dont think that will work14:23
neogarfieldha, thanks14:23
kanliotfine.  what the heck do i know.14:24
mustafa_ mustafa: any suggestion of what to do with canon 3010 printer on ubuntu 12.10 after i configure it and the system see the printer14:25
notwistmustafa_: what is your problem14:26
oskar-notwist:  as long as you are in control of the responsible name servers for the IP space, your IP is from, you can set reverse records...14:26
notwistoskar-: well that would be the problem then I guess if I'm using a private connection14:26
oskar-notwist:  yes, i don't know of any provider supporting this. it would then very likely have to be your domain hoster and isp as well14:27
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mustafa_<notwist:printer canon that dont work on the syster14:27
mustafa_<notwist> system14:28
akamikeymHi. Can anyone tell me the license status of Unity? It's open source but is it FLOSS?14:28
notwistmustafa_: please elaborate, it doesn't tell me/us anything that it "doesn't work"14:28
notwistakamikeym: it can't be open source and not FLOSS14:29
MonkeyDustakamikeym  FLOSS means Free (Libre) Open Source Software14:29
notwistakamikeym: FLOSS software can still cost money and not be free to use14:29
jribakamikeym: it's gpl or lgpl, I forget14:29
mustafa_it is simply dont print i give her a comand and the system tell me its processing but dont print shut14:29
MonkeyDustakamikeym  in a way, your question makes no sense14:29
kilonhello, I am using ubuntu 12.10 amd64 and when i open libreoffice document in ms office doc format , it displays untitled 1 in the title and when i change the content and press save it ask me for a filename, it also is not able to show the saved file in the same dialog14:29
jribakamikeym: some parts are gpl, some lgpl it seems14:30
mustafa_even though i tried it on windows14:30
akamikeymYes and therefore is different from open source, which is only necessarily openly available but not necessarily open for modification.14:30
mustafa_iam using wibi14:30
MonkeyDustakamikeym  you can always download the source ... use apt-get source14:31
akamikeymhttps://computerfloss.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/whats-in-a-name-free-vs-libre-vs-open-source/14:31
akamikeymPS. Thanks for the answers14:31
retnumIf I add a bash script to init.d then make it executable +x it should be ran on startup yes?14:32
jribretnum: no14:32
notwistakamikeym: "open source" almost exlusively means GPL or similar. If you claim that you are "open source" because you permit code audits but NOT modifications, you are making up your own terms.14:32
jrib!startup | retnum14:33
ubotturetnum: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot14:33
notwistakamikeym: ofcourse technically (semantically) "open source" means only "the source is open to see", but what people _mean_ when they say it is almost always FLOSS14:33
retnumjrib: Thank you14:33
notwistI don't think a company would call their code "open source" if they dont allow modifications.14:33
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mustafa_want to open a print server simply how14:33
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FloodBot1iCarly: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:33
lucidohow can I enable the weather(temperature) widget in the status bar?14:34
notwistmustafa_: if you try to print a document from libreoffice for example, does that work? does it show up in the print queue?14:34
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FloodBot1iCarly: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:34
mustafa_yes it does appear on the print queue14:34
EaglemanAny suggestion on what to do if i want to use spice with virt-manager, the current qemu version does not support spice :(  compiling wasnt advised becuase other things could break14:34
mustafa_but simply dont execute14:34
notwistmustafa_: have you installed proprietary drivers from the printer manufacturer? have you tried googling for similar problems?14:35
ActionParsniplucido: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc14:36
beaver004exit14:37
compdocEagleman, Im pretty sure you need a newer version of qemu-kvm than comes from the ubuntu repositories14:37
lucidoActionParsnip, hehe, quantal14:37
mustafa_well it says that that driver dont work on the newest version old driver14:37
ActionParsnipbeaver004: its:    /exit14:38
mustafa_iam currently using 12.1014:38
compdocspice isnt really needed anymore in any case14:38
ActionParsnip!info indicator-weather14:38
ubottuindicator-weather (source: indicator-weather): indicator that displays weather information. In component universe, is extra. Version 12.07.30-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 121 kB, installed size 861 kB14:38
untakenhow do I get a sshf mount point to mount, after the network is up?14:38
mustafa_is the is any solution14:38
blamimustafa_: sorry I had to leave for meeting14:38
ActionParsniplucido: sudo apt-get install indicator-weather14:38
lucidoActionParsnip, thank you14:38
oskar-untaken:  if you have the mount definition in /etc/fstab, try the option "_netdev" (first char is an underscore)14:39
untakenoskar-: thank you, will take a look at that :)14:40
virtuHi guys... I am having some troubles with Windows 8 pre-installed and ubuntu installs... I already made my notebook boot from USB and can install Ubuntu by something else option and creating partition for everything... but cant boot into ubuntu =(14:41
virtuI put the loader at /dev/sda6 -> BIOS Boot Partition14:41
notwistJust discovered "/ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS" - phew!14:47
MonkeyDustnotwist  you forget MODES ;)14:50
notwistI think I can live with that as long as I don't have to see all the joins and parts :)14:51
roasted_Question - If my HDD is named storage, and I plug it in, it'll mount to /media/storage. But let's say another computer is rsyncing data to this particular system. The trick is, this system is rsyncing data over as the root user, and the destination is /media/storage. Question of the day - if I unplug the "storage" drive, would the rsync script fail due to /media/storage not existing? Or would it create the storage directory within /14:53
roasted_data over anyway since it's running as root?14:53
notwistroasted_: I'm pretty sure it would fail.14:53
notwistroasted_: I'm pretty sure /media/storage doesn't disappear because you disconnect the drive, correct?14:54
notwistroasted_: however it's easy to experiment, just unplug the disk and try writing something to /media/storage14:54
RiXtErhey guys does anyone know if vim can have a header bar that will tell me what file is currently open? (or even change the title of the terminal window to let me know?)14:54
roasted_notwist: if it's mounted by fstab, /media/storage will always exist there. If it's simply named storage and you plug it in, it'll appear, then unplugged disappear. Try it with a flash drive and you'll see.14:54
roasted_notwist: yeah, I actually just thought I could test this with a flash drive...14:54
roasted_notwist: for a second I was thinking I was out of luck without my external, but I don't need that for the real experiment14:55
compdocif  /media/storage exists even when the drive is unplugged, you'll end up filling up your OS drive14:55
roasted_compdoc: exactly.14:55
roasted_compdoc: my concern is... what if the drive isn't in fstab, so if I unplug it, "storage" (within /media) disappears... would the rsync script still create storage and dump the data on the OS drive since I'm running it as root? Or would it fail with storage being gone?14:56
notwistcompdoc roasted_ so if it's mounted in fstab and the folder is still there even though it is unplugged, will it still write?14:56
roasted_notwist: yes, because if the drive is unmounted, yet the directory is still there, it'll assume it's on the primary drive.14:56
roasted_notwist: for example, let's say I have two drives. an 80GB OS drive, and a 1TB data drive at /media/storage. Technically /media/storage is on the 80GB drive unless I have the 1TB specifically mounted as such via fstab.14:57
roasted_notwist: so if the 1TB drive gets fried and doesn't mount, the /media/storage directory would thereby be empty, and currently reside on the 80GB OS drive.14:57
notwistroasted_: I understand all of that, I'm just thinking if fstab ever gets involved and says "something else is supposed to be here"14:58
roasted_notwist: if your OS drive gets 100% and you reboot, you won't be able to boot properly (been there). Just need to boot to a live USB/CD instance, mount the drive, and delete the data.14:58
compdocnotwist, you can prevent issues like that by writing to a specific folder inside /media/storage, is that if it disappears, it wont write14:58
mustafa_how to have a root privelige on command lie14:58
compdocsudo su14:58
oskar-mustafa_:  sudo -i14:58
roasted_compdoc: I'm not understanding how a folder one layer deeper would matter. Nothing would disappear if it's in fstab. Unless I'm missing osmething?14:58
mustafa_tahnks14:58
MonkeyDustmustafa_  or simply sudo [command]14:59
notwistroasted_: it disappears if the mounted disk is gone obviously14:59
notwistroasted_: if you mount /dev/hda as /lulz then you wont be able to access /lulz/videos if /dev/hda is gone14:59
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formation3problem de script d'enregistrement sur serveur marsnet15:00
MonkeyDust!fr15:00
ubottuNous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.15:00
roasted_notwist: oh, I see. the mount point would still exist (/media/storage) but it would be empty.15:00
notwistroasted_: yep15:01
roasted_notwist: good thought. I'll make some changes to my setup when I get home!15:01
roasted_I can't believe in all of the years I've used Linux I never gave that a thought... appreciate it notwist and compdoc for bringing it up.15:03
phunyguy_workroasted_, we are all students, ALL the time.  :)15:04
budmaesterCan I use this cchannel for support on Xubuntu?15:06
phunyguy_workbudmaester, sure, but #xubuntu is more appropriate.15:06
budmaesterThanks. Bye15:06
roasted_phunyguy_work: good philosophy. :D15:06
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phunyguy_workI hope budmaester made it to #xubuntu... I don't see him there yet.15:07
phunyguy_workwonder if he got banned from the channel or something15:08
slnlshello there. quick question: any hint and answer is much appreciated: searching for a safe solution to get rid of ICQ. Are there safe and Open Source Alternatives between two Computers. Ubuntu in particular?15:08
phunyguy_workslnls,, yes, using salut.15:08
cipheredcan XEN be installed/managed all in command line? or it needs a grpahical interface like virtualbox?15:08
phunyguy_workif you are just talking abotu two computers on the lan anyway15:08
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phunyguy_workslnls, also if the computers are not on the same lan, you can install Pidgin with the OTR plugin, and use something like Google Talk.15:10
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cipheredcan xen be installed/managed all in command line? or it needs a grpahical interface like virtualbox?15:10
phunyguy_work!patience ciphered15:10
phunyguy_work!patience | ciphered15:10
ubottuciphered: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/15:10
RaionI have a question... It probably is a noob question, but please bear with me... What I want to ask is about Web services... Web services is all about calling a php or some other code file using the http proxy....right?15:11
phunyguy_work!info vmm15:12
ubottuvmm (source: vmm): manage mail domains/accounts/aliases for Dovecot and Postfix. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6.0-2 (quantal), package size 238 kB, installed size 1154 kB15:12
phunyguy_workthats not it...15:12
phunyguy_work!info virt-manager15:13
ubottuvirt-manager (source: virt-manager): desktop application for managing virtual machines. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.3-1ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 349 kB, installed size 3260 kB15:13
cntbhi just FYI not trolling .can visit  new https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/107299007624972266094 ubuntu community .we all google right?  just discovered new community seeya15:14
cntbbbl15:14
phunyguy_work!spam15:14
phunyguy_workhmm15:14
phunyguy_workcntb, please don't do that again15:14
cntbno spam rleax15:14
diegohello15:15
Jodorowskyhi, when i try to install the adobe flash plugin from the website i get the error "unknown channel 'quantal-partner'"15:15
diegohello hello hello15:15
phunyguy_workcntb, that is offtopic.15:15
slnlsphunyguy_work: Thanks. I only found SILC. Reading now. The computers are 200 kilometers away. Its me chatting with girlfriend but ICQ: donotwant.jpg. Thanks for the answers. *gives cookies to channel15:15
cntbok  ok phunyguy_work15:15
phunyguy_work!ask | diego15:15
ubottudiego: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:15
cntbdefinitely offtopic phunyguy_work apologize15:15
phunyguy_work!ot | cntb15:16
ubottucntb: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:16
diegoanyone using hybride evolution ?15:16
cntbty phunyguy_work15:16
phunyguy_work!anyone | diego15:17
ubottudiego: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.15:17
roasted_notwist, compdoc, it looks like that doesn't work... burying it a layer deeper.15:17
slnlsbtw using pidgin would definetly help. I see salut (bonjour) is in there. I want to avoid ICQ at any cost.15:17
Guest63216hi15:17
Guest63216any expert around?15:17
Guest63216i have certain querries to ask?15:18
phunyguy_workslnls, then there is yoru answer.  the OTR plugin should be available, if not it is in the repos15:18
b14d3!ask Guest6321615:18
b14d3Aw, forgot the pipe symbol15:18
b14d3Oh well, don't ask to ask a question, just ask :)15:18
phunyguy_work!ask | Guest6321615:18
ubottuGuest63216: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:18
Eagleman!package libvirt15:18
Eagleman!libvirt15:18
Guest63216lol right15:18
phunyguy_workEagleman !info15:18
phunyguy_work!info libvirt15:18
ubottuPackage libvirt does not exist in quantal15:18
slnlsphunyguy_work: OTR uses ICQ. And i want to use something else. Is this not advised?15:18
phunyguy_workOTR = off the record.15:19
phunyguy_workit's a plugin that encrypts IIRC15:19
phunyguy_workhas nothing to do with IRC.15:19
Eagleman!packages15:19
ubottuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 30000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!15:19
phunyguy_workERRR, ICQ**15:19
Guest63216and prolly its outdated version15:19
Guest63216i have installed ubuntu 615:19
Guest63216now i try to update softwares but im unable to15:19
diegowhy ubuntu 6 ?15:19
phunyguy_workEagleman, you can /msg ubottu if you would like to query a bunch at once to test.15:20
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opalepatrickusing 12.10 unity - anyhone noticed a problem with Firefox not wanting to minimise or lose focus. If I move away from Firefox, it immediately returns to the top.15:20
phunyguy_workGuest63216 - that version is EOL15:20
phunyguy_work!eol | Guest6321615:20
ubottuGuest63216: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:20
opalepatrickthis is without extensions on a new install but alos happened previously15:21
phunyguy_workopalepatrick, are you using anything like devilspie?15:21
opalepatricknot that I am aware phunyguy_work15:22
phunyguy_workok.  That is strange behavior that I haven't seen yet, and I have 5 machines running Quantal.15:22
MonkeyDustGuest63216  better download ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10, create cd or usb stick and install that15:23
almoxarifehttp://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/how-to-get-netflix-streaming-on-ubuntu-1210/4019 <-- that should be a !netflix thing15:23
almoxarife!netflix15:23
ubottuIf you use Netflix, instructions on a method of installing it via PPA are detailed here http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/ppa-for-netflix-desktop-app.html - If you need support, please contact the developer through the comments section on that page15:23
almoxarifenevermind :)15:23
opalepatrickIt is strange phunyguy_work - makes it unusable. Had it on an update to 12.10 and a new install (same /home mind)15:24
BoozeWoozfrom hi:P15:24
opalepatrickWonder if it is worth creating a new profile... might do that15:24
qasim_i have aqn old laptop (processor=1.7ghz & RAM = 1 GB) please advise my best light weight version of linux...15:24
BoozeWooztake LXDE15:24
BoozeWoozor EDE15:24
BoozeWoozalso, 1.7Ghz 1GB ram isnt old :P15:25
qasim_EDE?15:25
MonkeyDustqasim_  try xubuntu or lubuntu15:25
qasim_well it indeed is15:25
phunyguy_work!lubuntu | qasim_15:25
ubottuqasim_: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.15:25
almoxarifeqasim_: xubuntu or lubuntu, xfce / lxde15:25
BoozeWoozhttp://equinox-project.org/15:25
phunyguy_work!xubuntu | qasim_15:25
ubottuqasim_: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels15:25
BoozeWoozTBH, xfce is too bloated now to be concidered lightweight really15:25
qasim_atleast old for using winows 7 OS15:25
qasim_ty phuny15:26
qasim_someone else also told me to use xubuntu15:26
BoozeWoozhmm lubuntu is more lightweight15:26
diego use bodhi or xubuntu15:26
phunyguy_workxubuntu will be fine with thos specs.15:26
BoozeWoozjust get usb stick and put unetbootin15:26
almoxarifeqasim_: lxde is a bit nicer looking, my opinion15:26
phunyguy_workdiego, bodhi is not supported here.15:26
BoozeWoozmake some nice list of +- 5 distro and test it out15:26
qasim_lxde hmmm15:27
phunyguy_workplease dont suggest other distros that are not ubuntu-supported.15:27
qasim_ right15:27
BoozeWoozUbuntu (Lubuntu/xubuntu), mepis(antix) etc etc15:27
almoxarifeqasim_: the mascot of xfce is a rat, need i say more?15:27
BoozeWoozi run here xubuntu hmm15:27
qasim_almox ty15:27
qasim_im reading15:27
phunyguy_work!helpful | BoozeWooz15:27
qasim_i will try to see all these versions15:28
BoozeWoozthankx15:28
BoozeWoozthough, the ram usage is +- 120MB clean15:28
phunyguy_workwhat was that command...15:28
BoozeWoozi cant say about it.. being ligtweight :/15:28
qasim_but i personally feel xbuntu woul be good15:28
almoxarifeqasim_: :(15:28
phunyguy_work!poll15:29
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.15:29
qasim_almoxa ..do you have any reservation about xubuntu?15:29
diegothis is ubuntu channel15:29
BoozeWoozlook at from examples, DSL oorr..puppy, tinycore15:29
phunyguy_workqasim_, that is for you15:29
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, please stop suggesting unsupported distros.15:29
BoozeWoozoki15:29
BoozeWoozstill, wait15:30
qasim_im a new linux user and i happened o install ubuntu 6 which is quite old thats why i needed opinion15:30
wdpqasim_, so just update it?15:30
phunyguy_work!eol | qasim_15:30
ubottuqasim_: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:30
wdp:D15:30
BoozeWoozhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=115:30
BoozeWoozlook there, its comparison mem usage15:30
qasim_well if it was that easy15:30
diegothats old ubuntu 615:30
ActionParsnipqasim_: why not just reinstall with a newer release, upgrading will take a LONG time15:30
Piciqasim_: that release is not supported.15:30
BoozeWoozand some cool pix too15:30
qasim_one more thing15:31
BoozeWoozhmm interestings, didnt think theres so few differanse15:31
BoozeWoozhttp://www.phoronix.com/data/img/results/linux_desktop_vitals/2.png15:31
BoozeWoozheres ^15:31
qasim_does xubuntu support flash player adobe reader and java jre?15:31
BoozeWoozall yes15:31
phunyguy_workqasim_, yeas15:31
BoozeWoozthey are support15:31
phunyguy_workyes*15:31
qasim_kool15:31
BoozeWoozbut i think java needs some hackeries15:32
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, the real differences would be between the different flavors of ubuntu.15:32
qasim_ty xperts15:32
BoozeWooztheres oracle java (bad), but openjre /jdk would work15:32
BoozeWoozwithout prolbmes15:32
ActionParsnipqasim_: yes, all the official releases will play flash and java15:32
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, there is nothing wrong with Oracle Java.15:32
BoozeWoozthere is15:32
qasim_im gonna use java runtime environment so i guess that wont cause much trouble15:32
phunyguy_workhowever, it is not used in Ubuntu15:32
paperplaneI have 2 NICs. NetworkManager always connects to the same network on each NIC when I boot. Can it be set to connect to the two different networks on every login?15:32
BoozeWoozif you see how bad java is supported by them15:32
BoozeWoozbut yes, also license is sub-optimal15:33
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, that is !ot.15:33
BoozeWooz?15:33
phunyguy_work!ot | BoozeWooz15:33
ubottuBoozeWooz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:33
BoozeWoozuhh ok soz15:34
ActionParsnipqasim_: its fine, there is a PPA for easy install of Oracle Java15:34
wdpActionParsnip, link?15:34
BoozeWoozwhy do that, openjdk better15:34
wdpActionParsnip, actually i was looking for that15:34
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, please stop.15:34
almoxarife!oracle15:34
ActionParsnipwdp: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=java+ppa15:34
almoxarifeduckduck :015:35
mustafa_how to move a file from downloads directory to another directory using root privilege15:35
BoozeWoozsu first then do it?15:35
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: there are features that some people need, one isn't better than the other, they are just different15:35
BoozeWoozlike sudo pcmanfm15:35
wdpActionParsnip, if it was that easy :D15:35
almoxarifeActionParsnip: you got me hooked on that search engine15:35
BoozeWoozand then you can do it like that15:35
phunyguy_workmustafa_, use the sudo command with the mv command in a terminal15:35
BoozeWoozor sudo nautilus15:35
ActionParsnipwdp: it is, I just showed you how easy it is15:35
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, NEVER run a GUI app with sudo.15:35
qasim_im downloading  xubuntu 12.10 ... its an ISO image..would i have to make a CD of it before installing15:35
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: sudo is not to be used with gui apps like nautilus15:36
BoozeWoozhmm then15:36
BoozeWoozsu -i and15:36
wdpic, sorry. google gives me different results.15:36
almoxarifeqasim_: or usb15:36
MonkeyDustqasim_  or an usb stick15:36
BoozeWoozthen nautilus15:36
phunyguy_work!info gksudo15:36
ubottuPackage gksudo does not exist in quantal15:36
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: gksudo nautilus15:36
phunyguy_workerrm...15:36
ActionParsnipwdp: google is garbage15:36
almoxarifegksu nautilus --no-desktop15:36
qasim_my lappy is old ...doesnt support usb15:36
slnlsphunyguy_work:So OTR is the security. Salute is the protocol? I can not find how to set up salute for the protocol. thanks again. *gives more cookies to channel.15:36
BoozeWoozwhat could be happened wrong if i sudo nautlius?15:36
ActionParsnipqasim_: you can boot DVD without issue15:37
slnlsBoozeWooz: it is gksudo nautilus15:37
phunyguy_workslnls, it may be called bonjour in Pidgin, my apologies15:37
opalepatrickthanks for the help, phunyguy_work - your comments made me think change profile, and it worked :-)15:37
ActionParsnip!gksudo | BoozeWooz15:37
ubottuBoozeWooz: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)15:37
BoozeWoozhmm interestings, fenks15:37
MonkeyDustBoozeWooz  but gksudo nautilus is dangerous and not recommended15:37
phunyguy_workopalepatrick, no problem :)15:38
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: sudo is ONLY for GUI apps, it does not set up a suitable environment for X apps. It will garbage the ownershipof files in $HOME and make sudo not work. This will make users need to boot to root recovery mode to chown it back15:38
BoozeWoozo15:38
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: this is easily avoided if you just use OS correctly.15:38
phunyguy_workActionParsnip, typo15:38
phunyguy_workyou meant terminal.15:38
llutzActionParsnip: <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: sudo is ONLY for GUI apps???15:38
wdpActionParsnip, s/GUI/CLI  ? :)15:38
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ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: you can technically use gksudo for both CLI and GUI commands15:38
ActionParsnipllutz: yeah, typo15:39
ActionParsnipwdp: d'o15:39
Guest27090Command to check hexadecimal value of string via termianl?15:39
BoozeWoozhmm nevermind all this hassle, i run always as root anyways, problem solved15:39
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, that is not AT ALL recommended.15:39
phunyguy_workplease stop saying things like that.15:39
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bigbangwhat do i need if ubuntu 12.10 pc has no access to internet untill after i install the wireless drivers.. for that I have a linksys wusb300n ?.. ndiswrapper ?..15:40
llutzGuest27090: echo yourstring|hexdump15:40
Guest27090Suppose i want to know hexa value of green.How to know it via a command15:40
BoozeWoozfine, i have some questions then: how to downgrade ubuntu from 12.04 to 10.04?15:40
Guest5733hi everyone. I just updated to kernel 3.5.0-18 and my broadcom BCM43225 does not work anymore. I tried to install the additional drivers (STA) but that does not work anymore. Using ubuntu 12.04. is there a solution for things like this?15:40
Guest27090llutz: Thanks !15:40
BoozeWoozi did some script but it didnt work so well15:40
ActionParsnipGuest27090: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/6066/convert-ascii-string-to-hex15:40
BoozeWoozhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto <--- not so worky15:40
MonkeyDustBoozeWooz  switching off security turns your pc into a windows machine, nobody wants windows15:40
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: you clean install if you want the earlier version15:40
almoxarifei tend to freeze ssh x11 forwarding sessions with gksu though, have not figured out why, sudo does not crash it though, with graphics apps15:40
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, install 10.04 fresh.15:40
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: Lucid desktop only has less than 6 months support left. I wouldn't bother with it15:41
Guest27090ActionParsnip: Thanks@'15:41
BoozeWoozok then, the problem is: i have server with 10.04. if i compile something at my pc with 12.04 it complains about glibc incompatabilities...15:41
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: why do you want to use Lucid?15:41
Doomahi.. i have a issue when i compile nux.. i recieve this error "'shared_ptr' in namespace 'std' does not name a type" .. can you help me ?15:41
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, upgrade the server?15:42
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: yes, the glibc versions are different15:42
BoozeWoozi did that but, i cant get oracle java or openjdk to work at all...15:42
BoozeWooz(its a minecraft server)15:42
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, if you did that, the server would no longer be 10.0415:42
BoozeWoozdid what?15:43
phunyguy_workor did you mean you did and reverted back?15:43
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: did you install oracle java via the handy ppa?15:43
BoozeWoozthe server is 10.04. i upgraded it to 12.04 for a day, and i couldnt run anything15:43
BoozeWoozso i downgraded it back to 10.0415:43
BoozeWoozPPA?15:43
phunyguy_work!ppa15:43
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge15:43
BoozeWoozthere's 2 ppa's i used.. some web8 i remember15:43
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: Lucid server has another 2 years in it.15:43
BoozeWoozand hmmm some else i cant remember15:43
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: why upgrade if it wasn't broken?15:44
zalgorHello. In which file is the last user desktop manager selection stored?15:44
BoozeWoozi upgraded desktop, and couldnt run to GLIBC15:44
BoozeWoozso i upgraded server too, and nothing worked..15:44
ActionParsnipzalgor: the default is LightDM, that will probably be the last one if you changed it15:45
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ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: is the only thing not working the Minecraft server?15:46
BoozeWoozsvn15:46
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zalgorActionParsnip, I don't mean the session manager, but desktop manager like kde, gnome and so on. I15:46
BoozeWoozbut its probably due to some miss configurations, that subversion thing15:46
ActionParsnipzalgor: thats the desktop environment, not the desktop manager15:46
BoozeWoozso ok, what happens after the 2 years? or 6 months for desktop (10.04?)15:47
BoozeWoozno more updates?15:47
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ActionParsnipzalgor: let me search15:47
blamizalgor: ~/.dmrc (its user specific thingie)15:47
roasted_notwist: hey not sure if you're still here, but yeah that won't fly. It seems to be writing the files/directory if it doesn't exist. I assum ethis is because I'm running as root.15:48
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, precisely.15:48
phunyguy_work!eol | BoozeWooz15:48
ubottuBoozeWooz: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:48
BoozeWoozhmm well thats quite bad15:48
BoozeWoozwhat if i installed server edition 10.04, and some desktop env. will i still get updates for 2 years?15:49
ping__hy ubuntu user15:49
zalgorblami, that looks good. thank you, blami and ActionParsnip15:49
BoozeWoozei15:49
ping__how to run hackshield on linux15:49
ping__imposible, yeah15:50
ActionParsnipblami: thanks15:50
BoozeWoozhackshield, that anticheat creps?15:50
ping__no15:50
joint2ki found out how to dual boot ubuntu and windows 815:50
BoozeWooz:D15:50
slnlsok I found xmpp / jabber for pidgin and otr. which is optimal and better then bonjour imho. thanks for the help. *gives cookies to channel15:50
ping__games indonesia poinblank.exe15:50
ping__imposible running on linux15:50
BoozeWoozyes, hackshield is anticheat15:51
joint2kit seems the ubuntu 12 series doesnt have the proper drivers. you can install ubuntu 11.10, it will detect windows 8.. and you can upgrade ubuntu from there15:51
ping__yeah15:51
BoozeWoozyou cannot run it because it has KERNEL module15:51
ping__how to fix15:51
BoozeWoozand, wine doesnt handle ring0 so well iirc15:51
BoozeWoozyou cant15:51
phunyguy_work!wine | ping__15:51
ubottuping__: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu15:51
BoozeWoozits the same with some other anticheat such as Punkbusters and15:51
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, it is offtopic.15:51
ActionParsnipping__: check the appdb for compatibility15:52
BoozeWoozja k, some programs wont run under wine ubuntu15:52
ping__BoozeWooz, i hope can running, because, it is a barrier for Indonesian people, do not use linux15:52
ActionParsnipping__: or contact the developers15:52
ping__ActionParsnip, imposible dude15:52
operadorhi, I have a question.... how can I install ubuntu on laptops with windows 8... it has a protected BIOS15:52
BoozeWooz:DDD bring bak desktop15:52
ActionParsnipping__: it may be a deal breaker then15:52
operadorhi, I have a question.... how can I install ubuntu on laptops with windows 8... it has a protected BIOS15:53
genhello there15:53
ActionParsnipoperador: we saw the first time15:53
BoozeWoozhmm the server version has different repositories?15:53
operadorActionParsnip,  sorry15:53
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phunyguy_work!patience | operador15:53
ubottuoperador: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/15:53
ping__just because hackshield problem can not walk on linux, many Indonesian people who use linux, can you solve this problem, people also like to use linux Indonesia15:53
ActionParsnipoperador: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting15:53
operadorActionParsnip, thanls alot..15:54
ActionParsnipping__: what does it do?15:54
ping__until now no one has been able to solve this problem,15:54
geni have a "crackeling sound"15:54
geni am running lubuntu 12.10 on an eeepc 1000he15:54
ping__no respon15:55
BoozeWooz?15:55
geni am experiencing a cracking sound coming from the speakers15:55
geneven when an external speaker is connected15:56
ActionParsnipping__: 2nd time, what does the app do?15:56
BoozeWoozactionparsnip: hackshield?15:56
b14d3gen: I would venture to guess that this is not an Ubuntu issue. This sounds hardware related.15:56
ping__this game http://download.gemscool.com/pb/PBsetupNov132012.exe15:56
ping__from indonesia15:56
ActionParsnipping__: so its just a casual game?15:57
ping__playing game dude15:57
ActionParsnipgen: what is the output of:  wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload15:57
Monotokoping__ ... you're trying to run an exe on Linux?15:57
BoozeWooztru wine15:57
phunyguy_work!wine | ping__15:57
ubottuping__: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu15:57
ping__hackshield can run, I've tried it15:57
ping__can't run dude15:57
Monotokoping__ ... it runs? Natively?!15:58
mustafa_how can i move any file to directory var /www15:58
phunyguy_workanything beyond that in wine, is a question for the #winehq channel.15:58
genhttp://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=f2442886a03741dc4faf96d9aa5b96fcbe39483f15:58
ActionParsnipping__: its not listed in the appdb15:58
ping__it's a problem for Indonesia, so they are still using windows, it is unfortunate not only because it15:58
b14d3mustafa_: Are you trying by command line or by gui?15:58
mustafa_command line15:58
BoozeWoozhmm .. if i install ubuntu server 10.04 WITH gui will i still get 2 year support?15:58
Monotokoping__, then lobby the developers to make it work with Linux15:58
mustafa_or even with gui15:59
b14d3mustafa_: sudo mv <from directory> <to directory>15:59
BedManmustafa_: mv startfile /var/www/finishfile15:59
Monotokothere isn't much we can do to make something run on Linux that isn't designed for Linux... there's various ways we can try (wine) but it'd be far easier if the developer releases a Linux version#15:59
ActionParsnipgen: try:    killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     wait 10 seconds and reboot15:59
ping__ActionParsnip, ya, I mean, come together to solve this problem, hundreds or even thousands of people in Indonesia, do not use linux just because of this issue15:59
BoozeWoozso dualboot15:59
genstatet no process found16:00
ActionParsnipping__: its a 'problem' for anyone wanting to play the game, not just Indonesia16:00
jribBedMan: you get 3 years of support on 10.04 desktop  since release.  Desktop support will for 10.04 ends in April 201316:00
BoozeWoozand use wintendo for gams =)16:00
jribs/will//16:00
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, the command is ubuntu-support-status on the server16:00
ping__unfortunately not16:00
Monotokoping__ - dualboot, use a virtual machine, or face the fact that most games are developed for Windows16:00
ActionParsnipping__: you may need a virtual Windows OS runninig in Virtualbox if you really need the app16:00
jribBoozeWooz: you get 3 years of support on 10.04 desktop  since release.  Desktop support for 10.04 ends in April 201316:00
mustafa_can i move it with gui16:00
ping__is not there a developer who thought this issue16:00
BedManjrib: I'd heard that16:00
ActionParsnipping__: you'll need a bit of system power, a windows license and media16:00
b14d3mustafa_: You should be able to, but it may ask you for the root password, depending on what you're moving.16:01
Monotokoping__ - the developers of the application, they're the only people with the source code16:01
ActionParsnipping__: Contact the devs16:01
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Monotokothey can release a Linux version if these thousands of people put pressure on them to do so16:01
ping__ActionParsnip, no, This game is very tough run in virtual16:01
bugiamis it possible to force an application to a specific resolution? maybe via another application or via a work around?16:01
phunyguy_workping__, we are trying to help you.  you need to contact the devs of the game.16:01
ActionParsnipping__: then you'll need to dual boot16:01
ping__and I've tried it, same not run16:01
BoozeWoozubuntu-support-status16:02
BoozeWoozTraceback (most recent call last):16:02
BoozeWooz  File "/usr/bin/ubuntu-support-status", line 120, in <module>16:02
BoozeWooz    (still_supported, support_str) = get_maintenance_status(cache, pkg.name, support_tag)16:02
BoozeWooz  File "/usr/bin/ubuntu-support-status", line 41, in get_maintenance_status16:02
BoozeWooz    raise Exception("No date tag found")16:02
FloodBot1BoozeWooz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:02
phunyguy_work*sigh*16:02
b14d3ActionParsnip: For the crackling speakers issue, was that something you knew, or could you link an article for me to read up on what that did?16:02
ping__phunyguy_work, the devs use windows, not linux16:02
BoozeWoozops, sorry. >< 12.04 is beug. im too install 10.0416:03
BedManbugiam: most x11 apps take a geom argument16:03
phunyguy_workping__, then you need to contact them.  running a windows game in wine is supported in the #winehq channel. Please join that channel and ask your question.16:03
Monotokoping__ - Linux and Windows are very different... you won't make a Windows app run in Linux, or eve a Linux app run in Windows unless the source code is released16:03
ping__until this moment no one can16:03
bugiamBedMan: thanks, i'll look into that16:03
ActionParsnipb14d3: its my first thing to try with sound issues. Set default settings16:03
Monotokoit's not possible for us to help you16:03
Monotokoit's not that we won't... it's that we can;t16:03
b14d3ActionParsnip: Cool. I'll have to try and find/remember that for the future. Thanks.16:03
BoozeWoozhmm any differens between i386 and amd64?16:04
ping__hmm, very imposible, i think16:04
phunyguy_workagreed, ping__16:04
BoozeWoozi have tried amd64 but its not work even thou i have amd16:04
qasim_what is the best procedure to write iso image on a blank CD16:04
Monotokoyes, unless you get the developers to release the source code or a compiled Linux version... it's impossible16:04
phunyguy_work!info brasero | qasim_16:05
ubottuqasim_: brasero (source: brasero): CD/DVD burning application for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.1-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 189 kB, installed size 1028 kB16:05
ping__phunyguy_work, :D16:05
qasim_thanks16:05
xeocsexcuse me, i installed server edition on a flash driver, but it cannot identify other machine's ethernet board, help, please!!16:05
BoozeWoozhelps xD mike phelps16:05
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, please stop with the offtopic outbursts.16:06
BoozeWooztry lshw-gtk16:06
BoozeWoozthere you can see, all you're pci device, maybe its not even detected16:06
ActionParsnipqasim_: use a cd burning app, there is no best app, just use one and tell it to burn the ISO as an image16:06
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: there are 32bit AMD CPUs16:07
qasim_olrite action16:07
BoozeWoozhmm how to see16:07
qasim_actually being a new user linux is overwhelming for me16:07
BoozeWoozjust go to ubuntu software center and put there you're searches16:07
phunyguy_workqasim_, it is a learning curve, just be patient and stick with it.  :)16:07
xeocsem,anyone help?16:07
qasim_specially a user who is all spoon fed by friendly softwares16:07
phunyguy_work!patience xeocs16:08
phunyguy_work!patience | xeocs16:08
ubottuxeocs: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/16:08
phunyguy_workgrrrr...  keep forgetting the pipe16:08
BoozeWoozxeocs, get that gtk app i wrote, its good and shows all devices16:08
xeocsoh, thanks, i 'll try it!16:08
BoozeWooz:P16:08
BoozeWoozhmm it says K616:09
phunyguy_workxeocs, go into /etc/network/interfaces and change eth0 to whatever the device is on the new machine16:09
BoozeWoozi686? works on i386 too?16:09
BoozeWoozwhere i get ubuntu i686?16:09
phunyguy_workxeocs then sudo service networking restart16:10
almoxarifeActionParsnip: i ran that script you linked, mine came up blank on alsa.libs, i dont have sound issues though, script quirk?16:10
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: k6 is 32bit16:10
BoozeWoozthey need to fix tis stuff its confusing..16:10
BoozeWoozjust make 1 version for all..16:10
xeocsmmm, i will try, but it is a little bit hard for some newbies like me, anyway thx!!16:10
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: should support i686 ok16:11
phunyguy_workxeocs, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html is a good reference16:11
BoozeWoozi shall try this i386 then! fenks16:11
souliaqI have this script: http://pastebin.com/bfNSYcS2, when I run this from terminal intips works fine, but when it autostart (init.d), the field IP appears blank.16:12
phunyguy_workBoozeWooz, you have been warned about the offtopic outbursts.  I understand this is tough stuff to understand.16:12
xeocsphunyguy_work: alot thx16:12
souliaqthe problem is the behavior of the script is different whe it "autostarts" that when I run this manually.16:12
AshleyludlowGtg16:13
BoozeWoozhmmm.. i forgot this pc's cd-rom hsa been broken. is there another way to install ubuntu thanCD?16:14
BoozeWoozlike floppydrive or something? i still have it working here16:14
phunyguy_work!liveusb | BoozeWooz16:14
ubottuBoozeWooz: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent16:14
b14d3You're quick with those phunyguy_work16:14
ActionParsnipsouliaq: that's a lot of text16:15
phunyguy_workI am a bot.16:15
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: there is a floppy image to then make the PC boot uSB16:15
phunyguy_workoh right, he said K616:15
BoozeWoozno16:15
phunyguy_workisn't there a network install as well?16:15
BoozeWoozi have LAN, so maybe there a LAn minimal installer16:15
BoozeWoozand then put internets? from there ubuntu?16:15
phunyguy_work!netinstall | BoozeWooz16:16
ubottuBoozeWooz: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate16:16
ActionParsnipsouliaq: if you put that in a script (make the top line #!/bin/bash     you can then add the script in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line, it will run before the login screen loads16:16
BoozeWoozbecause my pc has USB, but doesnt suppot boot over usb16:16
phunyguy_workand there you have it.16:17
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: yes but it can boot floppy, then the system will be told to load the kernel from the USB and it will boot the USB16:17
phunyguy_workHe's gone, ActionParsnip16:17
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BoozeWooz_:p16:18
ActionParsnipsouliaq: its a tonne of text for what is actually outputted16:18
BoozeWooz_mm yes16:18
xeocsi thought you could choose a startup dev by pressing f12, that doesn't help with your maching?16:18
souliaqActionParsnip, I don't understand what do you mean.16:18
souliaqThe output is not long16:18
phunyguy_workxeocs, his machine was too old to see USB device as a boot option.  Moot point now anyway.16:19
ActionParsnipsouliaq: put the text you pastebinned in a text file and make the first line:   #!/bin/bash      you can then mark the file as executable and you will have a script16:19
ActionParsnipsouliaq: you can then add it above the 'exit 0' line in /etc/rc.local and it will run at boot16:20
xeocsmmm, i am impressed..16:20
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Wassermelonefrom hi16:21
Wassermeloneso ye, perhaps i could hook this harddrive up to my other pc and install ubuntu there16:22
Wassermelonewould that work?16:22
souliaqActionParsnip, I know that, that's not the problem, the problem is, different behavior, look this:16:22
Wassermelone;o16:22
Wassermelone^^16:22
souliaqresult when autorun: IP:  Fecha: Mon Dec 10 11:20:50 COT 201216:22
Wassermelone:DD wrong person xDDDD16:22
llutzsouliaq: try " .... intips { LANG=C /sbin/ifconfig |grep ....."16:22
souliaqresult when I try manually: IP: eth0: 192.168.8.90 lo: 127.0.0.1 Fecha: Mon Dec 10 11:22:42 COT 201216:23
ActionParsnipsouliaq: even if you run it from /etc/rc.local ?16:23
jribsouliaq: I think you should say /why/ you are doing this.  There may be a better way to achieve whatever your real goal is16:23
souliaqYes when I run it from /etc/rc.local, and even when I call this from .desktop file located in .config/autostart!!!16:23
souliaqjrib maybe but, anyway this is not normal, why the behavior is not the same, when a SH autostarts, that when I call it manually.16:25
jribsouliaq: probably because your script gets called before interfaces get set up...16:25
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qasim_i have downloaded brasero.... when i try to open its opening in archive manager...i dont know how to install/run it ..help please..16:26
souliaqjrib, yes,  I going to try put a sleep16:26
jribsouliaq: you should state your actual goal16:26
ihackmerry christmas everyone - http://iosdevs.org/christmas/16:26
ActionParsnipsouliaq: in your script, add a line:   sleep 20      then add an amperand to the end of the line in /etc/rc.local16:26
bazhangqasim_, downloaded how16:26
ActionParsnipsouliaq: remember to add the ampersand or the boot will simply hang, the backgrounding allows the boot to continue while the script runs16:27
Wildfrom hi16:28
Wild:PP16:28
Wildnot so much feffect xDD16:28
qasim_how to install brasero? i can open it only in archive manager folder..and there is no install option16:28
ActionParsnipqasim_: brasero is in a default install of Ubuntu16:28
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qasim_hmmm16:28
souliaqqasim_ apt-get install brasero16:28
bazhangqasim_, I asked you how you downloaded it16:28
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ActionParsnipsouliaq: with sudo, of course16:29
qasim_i downloaded it from its official site16:29
qasim_sorry i dint read your line earlier16:29
wdnzAnyone here worked with ehcp before?16:29
bazhangqasim_, thats not how to install it16:29
Starletehcp?16:29
wdnzeasy hosting contorl panel16:29
qasim_well16:29
ActionParsnipqasim_: you don't need to manually download anything, its all in the software centre16:29
ActionParsnipqasim_: what OS are you using now?16:29
* ActionParsnip bets its a ma16:30
ActionParsnipmac16:30
qasim_its ubuntu 616:30
RistovskiAny idea why "sudo ping HOST -f -c 500" keeps making an audible ping when I have used -a for only once before16:30
qasim_ubuntu 6.o616:30
Ristovskipretty annoying16:30
ActionParsnipqasim_: there are no packages for Ubuntu 6, you will have Brasero installed by default16:30
ActionParsnipqasim_: or some other burner16:30
MonkeyDust*whoever recommended EDE - i'm testing it in virtual box*16:30
Starletdoelbnen16:30
ActionParsnipRistovski: why does ping need sudo?16:30
qasim_okay16:31
RistovskiActionParsnip: It needs sudo for "-f"16:31
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BoozeWooz_bak16:31
RistovskiActionParsnip: I have added "-a" (audible ping) ONCE, now it does a audible ping when ever I use "sudo ping"16:31
ActionParsnipRistovski: did you previously have bell volume at 0 ?16:34
RistovskiActionParsnip: no, it was enabled16:34
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ActionParsnipRistovski: hmm, strange16:34
RistovskiI just wanted to try it for once, now it does it every time when I ping as root16:34
RistovskiActionParsnip: could it be some config cache file I can safely clear?16:34
io___hi iafter upgrading to 12.10 the pc gets stuck at the loading OS animation, the only way i have to login is failsafe then startx as root16:35
ActionParsnipio___: what video chip do you use?16:37
io___some old Radeon stuff16:37
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ActionParsnipRistovski: no idea tbh, seems a bit weird. Are there any bugs reported?16:37
ActionParsnipio___: try the boot option:    radeon.nomodeset=116:37
io___but if i plug directly to the onboard i get the same issue16:37
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io___ActionParsnip: do i set that up in Grub2?16:38
ActionParsnip!bootoption | io___16:38
ubottuio___: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions See also !nomodeset.16:38
io___ActionParsnip: i aven t got a cd install, can i do that with grub or after i drop to the command line ?16:39
io___oh well i can just download it anyway, just to know if it s necessary16:39
RistovskiActionParsnip: couldnt find anything, reinstalling ping doesnt fix the issue16:41
sunjantest!16:44
mustafa_how to make a chmod16:44
mustafa_its doesnt work16:44
jrib!permissions | mustafa_16:44
ubottumustafa_: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions16:44
qasim_how to use live messenger through xubuntu?16:47
qasim_there are few softwares but they dont support voice calls16:47
xeocs...can it be installed via wine?16:48
ActionParsnipio___: its the same as the CD as in the installed OS16:48
bazhangqasim_, what version of xubuntu16:48
ActionParsnipqasim_: there is emesene and amsn16:48
qasim_xubuntu16:48
bazhangqasim_, yes, what version16:48
mustafa_moving any file to directory var/www   doesnt seem to be working any suggestion16:48
qasim_xubuntu 12.1016:49
ActionParsnipqasim_: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=127   live messenger simply doesn't work16:49
ActionParsnipmustafa_: is it a desktop OS?16:49
mustafa_yes 12.0416:49
mustafa_12.1016:49
qasim_ty action16:49
mustafa_sorry16:50
ActionParsnipmustafa_: then run:  gksudo nuatilus $HOME    and you can do as you wish16:50
mustafa_will try16:50
mustafa_iwas currently using root16:53
mustafa_and it doesnt seem to be work too16:53
ActionParsnipmustafa_: what errors do you get when you try to copy data over/16:53
wdnzhow can I force the rmdir ? It won't let me because it isn't empty16:54
mustafa_mv cant stat no such file or directory16:54
ikoniait's not there16:55
b14d3wdnz: rm -rf (recursive and force iirc) <directory>16:55
b14d3But be very careful with it16:55
ActionParsnipwdnz: rm -r  folder16:55
MERLOhello16:55
ActionParsnipb14d3: no need for force16:55
wdnzty16:55
MERLO!list16:55
ubottuMERLO: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:55
osseHi guys. I have a mail problem. Some time ago I tinkered with sendmail and some other package I can't remember the name of. Now /var/log claims all available space becase mail.err and mail.log just keep growing. I don't know what to do.16:55
b14d3ActionParsnip: Makes sense, I always forget that it isn't necessary, I usually include it, and didn't think about it because he asked to force it. Good call though.16:55
locojayi have a intel hd graphics 3000. under displays i only get 800x600(vnc) . under sys info i see Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (llvm 3.1, 256bits). unitiy_support_test -p fails on 3d support and not software rendered16:57
locojayany idea's how i can get a better resolution and support for unity so i can upgrade to 12.1016:58
locojaycurrenty on 12.0416:58
cnzwhat type of bot is ubottu16:58
ActionParsniplocojay: may help with the newer kernel and newer drivers16:58
mustafa_installing a php navigator for lamp server any idea16:58
musiekhi guys  i`v problem  with  install 5.16.0-0ubuntu1+ikarosdev16:59
locojayi m on kernel 3.2.0-3416:59
locojayshould i upgade the kernel16:59
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ikonialocojay: why ?16:59
locojaylinux-headers-3.5.0.18?16:59
ikonialocojay: why ?17:00
locojayActionParsnip suggested17:00
mustafa_installing a php navigator for lamp server any idea17:00
ikonialocojay: why ?17:00
ikoniamustafa_: what's the actual question17:00
dchernivlocojay, pastebin the output of glxinfo17:00
ikoniamustafa_: if you actually want a response, ask a question17:00
musieki  try  instal it with  compizconfig  but was install only 5.16.0-0ubuntu1 with out 5 ikarosdev17:00
musiekcan somone  help me? how  i  can install it?17:01
ikoniamusiek: that makes no sense17:01
ikoniamusiek: 1.) what ubuntu version do you have 2.) where are you getting this package 3.) how are you trying to install it 4.) what is the error17:01
locojaydcherniv: https://gist.github.com/425184417:02
mustafa_i want to install a php navigator on ubuntu 12.10 iwant to move the files to var/www from download directory all i get in command line on the root acces is that the php navigator files (cant stat no such file or directory ) want to run lamp server?17:03
xeocsxampp17:04
Oggy`Rudda duh neh nuh hep tep roggy!17:04
xeocsthat may do17:04
Oggy`Moistie bather.  riberian schmecklef  Mulla Malee loo lup the new flood wars.  Chuddy dip, chuddy dip, chuddy microchip17:05
Oggy`Burpaline: The wonder world.  Salmy magoo goal greggats  Rump duh duh duh dump, duh duh duh demp doop dump, runna nuh nah  Riggity ass gaggags  i nick  Roddan raldwell  Roady carewell reggal mahole  Rup tup shmelly smelly shmebb ub.  Roady farewell rose bose mahaggal.  A pocahontas watch17:05
Oggy`Blubbity ash hoosh her mellopath.  a Maticake for my buddy andy  Oh we-heh-heh-hell I'm thinking about the greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you!  End midal too walkin' with a dolphin.  I went up that street, you went up another street, we all up the presidio.  I'm goin out with arsenio!17:05
FloodBot1Oggy`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:05
Oggy`fuckin bone screllalidge moink.  ruggity fucker fagger. rum dum dacka lacka rum dum jay  Go out with jay, another blue jay we fixed my astercoil plather  I'm hickin' my dagger  Rum dickily toon witherspoons.  I'm a falcons baleiva work with the yake my 7'9'er forever tumchy tither17:05
Oggy`i wrote my life story on my poop pad.  one of the greatest art exhibits of 1999 was in a new york museum of art.  In it, cow poop or fecal matter was put on a copy of the painting called "The Last Supper".  This was thought to be a form of modern art.  chumpin up the rears.  Rubb blillick bath.17:05
dchernivlocojay, that doesnt seem right. pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log17:05
mustafa_i want to install a php navigator on ubuntu 12.10 iwant to move the files to var/www from download directory all i get in command line on the root acces is that the php navigator files (cant stat no such file or directory ) want to run lamp server?and i have have installed all the services mysql apache2 php5 but i cant link them together to make a web server17:06
ikoniamustafa_: that error means the file is not there17:06
ikoniamustafa_: to fix that you have to put the file there17:06
samuelHi everybody!  I'm a new Ubuntu user with some questions and I'd be grateful if you'd please help me out with them.  I setup Ubuntu 12.10 on Saturday night after Vista caused me to almost rage smash my laptop.  How do packages work?  Do I have to install them from the package manager or can I install them manually from some sort of installer file?  What's the best way to setup a python interpreter?17:07
mustafa_checked it multiple time its there17:07
ikoniamustafa_: it's not, or the error isn't there17:07
ikoniamustafa_: show me the exact command you are using17:07
musiekok ,  someone  know  how i  kan  changin in  global  menu  - menu alweys visible??17:08
ActionParsniplocojay: if your screen isn't reporting its abilities you may need an xorg.conf file17:08
mustafa_sudo mv phpfilemanager /var/www/17:08
locojaydcherniv: https://gist.github.com/425188417:09
oskar-mustafa_:  what is the result of that command, and what is the result of "ls -ld phpfilemanager /var/www/"?17:09
aidan_Hello, I have an issue. After doing a complete clean reinstall of Ubuntu, I wanted to use the proper nvidia drivers. Unfortunately, when I try to install the driver (latest one, 310.19) through the .run file, the installer moans that it can't find the kernel source files. Can anyone help?17:10
mustafa_drwxr-xr-x 4 mustafa mustafa 4096 Dec 10 19:0317:11
mustafa_mv: cannot stat `phpfilemanager': No such file or directory17:11
dchernivlocojay, intel driver is not loading as far as i can tell.17:12
dchernivlocojay, what VGA card is reported in lspci?17:12
musiekhow  i  can  make  global menu in ubuntu 12.04  visible?17:12
ikoniamustafa_: use the full path17:13
ikoniamustafa_: you are using sudo so the current working directory is not valid17:13
ikoniahence why the file is not found17:13
locojayActionParsnip: i m on vnc so no screen17:13
locojaysec17:13
mustafa_even without sudo17:13
locojay00:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)17:13
mustafa_on the root usr17:13
ikoniamustafa_: use the full path17:13
locojaywhich is the intel graphics 300017:14
ActionParsniplocojay: what is the output of:  ls -la /var/www17:14
mustafa_for both destination and source17:14
aidan_Hello, I have an issue. After doing a complete clean reinstall of Ubuntu, I wanted to use the proper nvidia drivers. Unfortunately, when I try to install the driver (latest one, 310.19) through the .run file, the installer moans that it can't find the kernel source files. Can anyone help?17:15
locojayi installed ubuntu via xen pv without passtrhough., just added passtrhougt and now i have the card in ubunutu. but under graphics info i only see Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe17:15
dchernivlocojay, is this installed: ii  xserver-xorg-video-intel17:15
locojayyes17:15
ActionParsnipmustafa_: what is the output of:  ls -la /var/www17:16
dchernivaidan_, search for linux-headers in the package manager and install17:16
locojayalso installed mesa-utils17:17
ActionParsniplocojay: does the system have a make and model?17:17
mustafa_actionparsnip:total 15217:17
mustafa_drwxr-xr-x  4 mustafa mustafa  4096 Dec 10 19:03 .17:17
mustafa_drwxr-xr-x 27 mustafa mustafa  4096 Dec 10 17:08 ..17:17
mustafa_drwxrwxr-x  6 mustafa mustafa  4096 Dec  8 16:12 Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V240_uk_EN17:17
mustafa_drwxrwxr-x  2 mustafa mustafa  4096 Dec 10 19:01 phpFileManager17:17
mustafa_-rw-rw-r--  1 mustafa mustafa 66152 Dec 10 18:24 phpFileManager-0.9.7(2).zip17:17
FloodBot1mustafa_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:17
locojaysry don't understand ActionParsnip17:17
ActionParsnipmustafa_: the file is there....17:17
locojayits a mac mini 201117:17
mustafa_i told you17:18
ActionParsniplocojay: then that is the make and model :)17:18
Ingenixanybody here that can tell me why I can't get a working wifi hotspot with gnome network manager and a intel wifi link 5100?17:18
mustafa_simply not moving17:18
ActionParsniplocojay: let me search17:18
oskar-mustafa_:  it is already moved17:18
locojayrunning xen server dom0 . domU is ubuntu with passthrough of video card17:18
locojayActionParsnip: thanks17:18
bekksmustafa_: "phpfilemanager" is different from "phpFileManage" - linux is case sensitive.17:18
ikoniamustafa_: how many times, use the FULL path17:19
BluesKajlocojay, what does the versiuon string from , glxinfo |grep OpenGL, output ?17:19
mustafa_okay let me try17:19
mustafa_soory that was the input dir17:19
ActionParsniplocojay: can you run:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; sudo dmidecode -t 1 | pastebinit17:19
locojayhttp://cl.ly/image/1J1N22160d3n17:20
ActionParsniplocojay: you can use pastebin for text, no need for an image17:20
mustafa_many thanks it moved17:20
locojaysry was under vnc a payne17:21
aidan_dcherniv: OK, installed. I have reason to believe that I need to restart for these packages to work, so I'll be back in a minute17:21
locojayhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1423576/17:21
ActionParsniplocojay: run the command I gave, what is the URL generated please17:21
locojaypastebinit solution17:21
locojayhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1423576/17:21
ActionParsniplocojay: good ol mac.....NOT17:21
locojaymac mini mid 2011 with intel graphics 300017:22
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ActionParsniplocojay: try:  sudo wget -O /etc/X11/xorg.conf https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/xorg.conf17:25
locojayreboot?17:26
locojaythanks17:26
locojayfirst17:26
ActionParsniplocojay: sure17:26
locojayrebooting....17:26
BluesKaj...snow to push , BBL.17:27
locojayActionParsnip: same 800x600 under display. shows gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe17:28
ActionParsniplocojay: you will need to fight that file til you get a good display. I would try the Quantal release, it may help. Remove the xorg.conf file in case it causes issues17:31
ActionParsniplocojay: if you monitor was decent, it would report its abilities and the driver would load properly17:32
locojaydon't have a display all via vnc17:32
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locojayinstalling inxi to get better output17:33
ActionParsniplocojay: could try:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade17:34
locojaythink i laready did . let me rerty17:35
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locojaystill galium17:37
djxvillainHey, I don't know if I'm in the right spot, but I could use some help17:38
ActionParsnipdjxvillain: if its ubuntu then yes :)17:38
MonkeyDustdjxvillain  start with a question!17:38
djxvillainhaha, okay great.17:39
djxvillainI'm pretty new to Ubuntu.  But just a few minutes I followed some commands I read in a forum and broke WINE.17:40
djxvillainI don't know how to undo the actions, or better yet, do them correctly.17:40
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MonkeyDustdjxvillain  try #winehq17:43
djxvillainThis is the command I typed under /.wine/drive_c/Program Files (86)/ World of Warcraft17:44
djxvillain# __GL_THREADED_OPTIMIZATIONS=1 WINEDEBUG=-all wine wow-6417:44
bitethecoinI got a problem: This device is not working on ubuntu 12.10 http://pastebin.com/H5tR8jMG17:44
MonkeyDustdjxvillain  better: look for a linux equivalent for whatever you want to do17:44
MonkeyDustok, WoW17:44
djxvillainI tried it, it didn't seem to work.  WoW still doesn't start.17:45
junglelog! jungle17:45
junglelogs ! jungle17:45
ActionParsnipdjxvillain: ask in #winehq too17:45
MonkeyDust!logs > jungle17:45
ubottujungle, please see my private message17:45
djxvillainOkay.  Thanks17:46
jungleMonkeyDust: thnx17:47
amigamialala ladaia17:53
amigamiatest17:54
locojayActionParsnip: do you think a clean install of 12.04 will help since added the card passthrought after the install?17:55
benthwhat are good DE alternatives for ubuntu that aren't preinstalled?17:58
thebishophey folks17:59
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MonkeyDustbenth  i'm testing equinox DE, it's very swift and fast18:00
ewhrlUnder system settings->keyboard->shortcuts-navigation my redefined keyboard shortcut for minimizing normal windows is never saved after relogging, is there a fix for this?18:01
thebishopUnder 12.10, the nautilus file chooser seems broken.  In several apps, my selected path is ignored and the app uses what it already decided as the default (typically home).  I've seen this in Deluge, Soundconverter, and Audacity18:01
t0kenhi, I've installed bind9 and setup some zones, the system seems to be ignoring my local dns server tho.  it goes to the public root servers first instead of looking locally.  Any idea how to make dns requests check locally first?18:01
NightwatchI installed vnstat to see why box was moving slow. Found that my rx: is 50 Mbits/s - is there a way to track down what program/connection is using that much bandwidth18:02
t0kenNightwatch: iptraf, I think will do that18:02
Nightwatchthanks18:03
mojtabamHi, I have installed ubuntu serve recently and for browsing web installed chromium, but I get the error: cannot open display18:04
mojtabamDoes anybody know what should I do?18:04
mojtabamHello18:04
jribmojtabam: you need to be in X18:04
mojtabamHow can I do that, because I am newbie18:04
mojtabamThis is the first time I am running linux server and I am going to shift from windows to linux18:05
jribmojtabam: install a desktop environment.  ubuntu-desktop is the default one.  Why did you install the server edition if you wanted a gui?18:05
mojtabamjrib: I do not want a gui, I want to run web server18:05
locojaywhat's the dist name of 12.10. 12.04 is precise18:06
locojaywill give installing 12.10 a try via xen-create-image18:07
mojtabamjrib: Are you there?18:07
tibI tried to reinstall grub on my dual-boot windows7 computer after formatting c drive18:07
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tibNow all I see is a 'grub > ' terminal18:08
tibAnd cant boot into windows18:08
tib:(18:08
tibCan I reset it to use the window's bootloader?18:08
mojtabamHi, I have installed ubuntu serve recently and for browsing web installed chromium, but I get the error: cannot open display18:08
DrGrovHi everyone18:08
tibPlease help18:08
mojtabamHi, I have installed ubuntu serve recently and for browsing web installed chromium, but I get the error: cannot open display18:08
jribmojtabam: you need a gui to use chromium.18:08
jribmojtabam: chromium is a graphical application18:09
mojtabamjrib: how can I surf the web without using gui?18:09
locojayhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1423681/18:09
jrib!quantal | locojay18:09
ubottulocojay: Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) is the current stable release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ - Release notes: http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/12.1018:09
mojtabamand how can I uninstall the chromium?18:09
jribmojtabam: you can use something like w3m, links2, lynx, etc.18:09
jrib!apt | mojtabam18:09
ubottumojtabam: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)18:09
tibjrib: Can I reconfigure my system to use the Windows bootloader, and not grub?18:09
Guest83098yeh lynx ftw18:09
locojaythanks18:09
jribtib: I doubt it18:10
io___hi i am stuck at the os login animartion after upgrading to 12.10, i can access a fnctional os only with safe mode / root access startx18:10
jribtib: I don't know for sure though18:10
DrGrovI wonder if this is right or not. I got linux-headers-generic and linux-headers-3.5.0.19.30-generic installed. Should I just have one of the linux-source and linux-headers-generic in order to get nVidia working?=18:10
DrGrovI am quite sure I have one too many :D18:10
dchernivedbrowse ftw18:10
tibjrib: Can I make grub detect my windows installation?18:10
jribtib: well, you can use the windows bootloader.  But I don't think you'll be able to boot ubuntu then18:10
dchernivedbrowse has javascript18:10
tibjrib: That's alright..18:10
bitethecoinDo anyone here have Crossover working on Ubuntu 12.10 amd64?18:11
tibjrib: I think my ubuntu installation is messed up anyway.18:11
jribtib: ##windows can help you reinstalling the windows bootloader.  You can also troubleshoot grub here, but I can't personally do so at the moment18:11
freedomrunhello. where is status bar on the bottom of nautilus in 13.04??!18:11
mojtabamjrib: how can I surf the web without gui and how can I uninstall the chromium.18:11
dchernivDrGrov, headers package is enough, but you're right either source or headers would do. Source is much bigger download though18:11
jribmojtabam: see my last two responses to you18:12
tibjrib: Thanks18:12
blamifreedomrun: I don't have any statusbar even in 12.1018:12
DrGrovdcherniv: I have been struggling with getting the proper resolution for my LG TV now for the past 20 hours almost. I am about to give up soon.18:12
freedomrunblami, ?? you mean you cannot enable it under "View"??18:13
mojtabamjrib: how can I surf the web without gui and how can I uninstall the chromium?18:13
blamifreedomrun: ah I can18:13
blamifreedomrun: I think it was removed from upstream18:13
jribmojtabam: I already answered this.  Use w3m, links2 or lynx.  You can uninstall chromium with apt-get remove.  See ubottu for detailed information.18:13
blamifreedomrun: it was disabled even in upstream gnome3 for some time18:13
amigamiawow18:14
blamifreedomrun: maybe ubuntu developers patch nautilus to include it again. Look if there are any bugs/rfes on that topic open18:14
freedomrunblami, do you know will there be alternative to the upstream in ubuntu or?18:14
amigamiafor some time you proclaim?18:14
amigamiawow18:14
DrGrovdcherniv: The strange thing is that I got it a few times right in 12.04 by "accident" after reboot. But I could not write the xorg.conf in /etc/X11 so I lost it after boot every single time. What do you think? Could I install 12.04 again and make an empty xorg.conf in /etc/X11 and hope it writes it there once it locks into 1920x1080?18:14
mojtabamthank you all18:14
blamiamigamia: at least in 12.04 and fedora 16 + 17 is disabled by default18:15
amigamiaegads18:15
amigamiaforsooth18:15
amigamiahow dare thy18:15
blamiamigamia: I was talking about being disabled by default, not about being removed18:15
dchernivDrGrov, with the TV connected pastebin output of xrandr18:15
amigamiawhat shall we do!18:16
blamiamigamia: this is stupidity of gnome, lets remove it completely rather than make toggle for those who are used to18:16
DrGrovdcherniv: Okay, will do.18:16
amigamia! we should organize a protest!18:16
ubottuamigamia: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:16
blamifreedomrun: there was nautilus fork living somewhere in wild18:16
blamiamigamia: no we should write an open letter first18:17
DrGrovdcherniv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423705/18:17
ProfessorBaconall over myself18:17
amigamiayiou should clean the grease up from yourself first before you drip your drippings bacon man18:18
freedomrunblami, not shure if ading "nemo" from mint will have impact on system stability need to digg that arround18:18
amigamiai am righting the writing right now blami18:19
t0kenhi, I've installed bind9 and setup some zones, the system seems to be ignoring my local dns server tho.  it goes to the public root servers first instead of looking locally.  Any idea how to make dns requests check locally first?18:20
dchernivDrGrov, tv connected and on?18:20
DrGrovdcherniv: Yes, that is my screen.18:21
dchernivDrGrov, what does glxinfo say?18:21
DrGrovdcherniv: Okay, I will paste it.18:21
blamifreedomrun: not sure ... I saw some time ago a question on askubuntu about integrating nemo to unity, answer was it is possible but it does not look as good as nautilus ...18:21
dchernivt0ken, what does your /etc/resolv.conf say?18:22
tib`# dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdX bs=446 count=1` will delete grub and reset to default Windows7 bootloader?18:22
blamifreedomrun: I perosnally don't care about statusbar. As long as they don't cripple gnome-terminal I am good :)18:22
DrGrovdcherniv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423714/18:23
freedomrunblami, personally :) neither do I (Sakura here f10 working on mc .. hehe) but there are some other maybe new users and status bar where showing them free space left18:24
llutztib: that will overwrite the MBR and since there is no bootmanager in the MBR then, the system should try to boot from 1st marked-as-bootable partition found18:24
heoyea_just reinstall ur bootloader18:25
amigamiaI can't seem to locate the Hoary release support channel?  Which one is it?18:25
OerHeksfreedomrun, you better join #ubuntu+1 for raring issues18:26
dchernivDrGrov, something wrong with the driver18:26
freedomrunOerHeks, I am there, thnx for the info18:26
DrGrovdcherniv: I think I better remove and purge all linux-source, linux-headers-generic, nvidia-current and try from scratch.18:26
dchernivDrGrov, drop to console with CTRL+ALT+F1 and rerun nvidia-installer*.run as roo18:26
dchernivt18:26
blamifreedomrun: I switched from fedora to ubuntu because ubuntu devs care about user experience and polished look. I believe there will be patch to retain that functionality or other way to tell new users about free space. To me unity is gold because it does not change from the ground with every new release ...18:27
amigamiai remember when ubuntu sent out boxes of cd's of all versions.. seems now it's all mixed up. i suspect that microsoft has payed off the south amerikanner after his magical mystery tour in space has sold out...what i think anyway.18:27
DrGrovdcherniv: I have not used a nvidia-installer.run. But I could go and download one and hopefully get it working that way. But I should purge all extra stuff first.18:27
tibIt did nothing18:27
tib:(18:27
tibThere is no change18:27
DrGrovWould it be possible to lock myself into one specific kernel?18:27
dchernivDrGrov, its safe to keep the headers package, just delete linux-source18:27
DrGrovdcherniv: I got two linux-source.18:28
dchernivDrGrov, remove all things related to nvidia from the package manager18:28
DrGrovdcherniv: I think I purge also just in case.18:28
dchernivDrGrov, download the .run from nvidia.com and run it as root from the console18:28
amigamiai have a theory on what has happ3ened wtih ubuntu18:28
dchernivDrGrov, remember generic is a virtual package that depends on latest updated package18:29
dchernivDrGrov, ie linux-source-generic will always pull with it linux-source-3.x.y.z-W18:29
blamidcherniv: isn't there driver provided by ubuntu itself?18:29
t0kendcherniv: it was resolv.conf   was a typo.  127.0.1.1 != 127.0.0.118:29
t0kendoh18:29
dchernivblami, yes there is18:29
blamidcherniv: installing it like this will break his xorg with every each kernel upgrade18:30
dchernivblami, thats why there's dkms18:30
dchernivblami, it works with third-party modules too18:30
blamidcherniv: aha18:31
DrGrovdcherniv: I will purge everything now and write down a few lines in a text document so I can view it before I run from a terminal.18:31
blamidcherniv: I have nvidia drivers installed in /opt because it is only way to retain intel working on nvidia optimus laptops :/18:31
DrGrovdcherniv: Any good way to purge and delete completely? I got two linux kernels. 3.7.0-5.13 and 3.5.0-19.3018:33
DrGrovdcherniv: I would not be surprised the conflict has to do with me having two at the same time.18:33
virgohi, i have this gnome launcher bar (not sure if i name it correctly) and its full of icons, i need more rows/columns to it, but i dont know how18:33
virgoits on left side of the screen18:33
DrGrovdcherniv: I enabled a 3rd party PPA that might have had helped. But apparently that pulled down that 3.7.0-5.13 kernel.18:33
amigamiawow 12-12-12 is almost here... i thougt i was wondering about 12-21-12 however i deeply contemplated the trickery of the trickery. so on 12-12-12 @ 12:12:12 at exactly 12 steps you will know :)18:34
DrGrovdcherniv: Does it matter actually if I have many linux kernels and headers installed?18:35
heoyea_u can have as many as u want18:35
MonkeyDustDrGrov  use the 3rd party app 'ubuntu-tweak' to remove them (ubuntu-tweak.com)18:35
DrGrovMonkeyDust: Ah, yes. That might be a good idea. After that I purge and delete the nvidia-current and everything nVidia and then go into ttyl1 and install.18:36
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ubkruxhey trying to install wireless drivers with no success :(.. i am running 12.10 64bit.. i have 2 different wireless cards i am attempting to install.. i tried using ndiswrapper -i file.inf but not sure what else i am missing18:37
amigamiayour not wirelessly by default connecting ubkrux?18:39
Dark_Haseomy ubuntu crashes constantly :/18:39
ubkruxno i am using rj45 ethernet connection right now..18:39
amigamiadark are you running raw or via windows and what version?18:39
DrGrovMonkeyDust: Is there anything that might conflict badly after I remove the with Ubuntu Tweak? That something gets "left behind"?18:39
Dark_Haseoi have dualboot18:39
Dark_Haseoan cinnamon as default desktop18:40
Dark_Haseobut in unity crashes aswell18:40
amigamiais windows a partition?18:40
ikoniacinnamon is provided by a 3rd party PPA,18:40
Dark_Haseoyes18:40
amigamiawhat version?18:40
Dark_Haseowin 718:40
ikonia(and supported by that person)18:40
amigamiaoh god18:41
Dark_Haseo:/18:41
MonkeyDustDrGrov  ubuntu-tweak removes what's left behind' - it may no longer be available on their website, check the 3rd party repo18:41
amigamiado you have automatic updating enable? i pray not18:41
ubkruxim thinking it has to do with the 64bit..18:41
DrGrovMonkeyDust: I got it for precise ;-)18:41
Dark_Haseoonly when i say yes yo updates18:41
Dark_Haseoto*18:41
amigamiayou ddidnt update did you?18:42
Dark_Haseowell yes -.-18:42
DrGrovMonkeyDust: Probably I just go into Software Settings and make sure I have Noveau selected and then remove everything with Ubuntu Tweak and jump into ttyl1 and install that nVidia driver?18:42
Dark_Haseoi dualboot from grub18:42
amigamiado you have recovery boot options from grub btw?18:43
DrGrovMonkeyDust: How is it with linux-headers then and linux-source? They will be available still after Ubuntu Tweak cleans up?18:43
GunArmi downloaded a thingie, and when I try to run it i get the error: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_system.so.1.47.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.  Any suggestions?  Do I need to install a package?18:43
Dark_Haseoi dualboot from grub <--18:43
Dark_Haseoubuntu's grub18:43
amigamiaok again do you have version levels to recover from from the grub prompt?18:43
Dark_HaseoD: dont know18:44
Dark_Haseofor windows of ubuntu18:44
Dark_Haseo?18:44
Dark_Haseoi always clean old kernel18:44
amigamiabut you did that recent update for windows 7y...18:44
Dark_Haseowhit ubuntu tweak18:44
amigamiathere was a recent update overnight for w718:44
Dark_Haseoi dont think is related to windows18:45
amigamiaok18:45
Dark_Haseois a diferent partition18:45
amigamiaok18:45
Dark_Haseodiferent filesystem18:45
Dark_Haseoetc18:45
amigamialet me check brb :)18:45
Dark_HaseoD; it may be to much ppas18:46
DrGrovMonkeyDust: Okay, system is clean now. How then with the linux-headers and linux-source now?18:46
Dark_Haseodoes ubuntu has its own sources for gnome3 ?18:46
Dark_Haseopatched ones?18:47
|Anthony|i just crashed and had some "Untitled Documents" open in gedit... is there a way to recover them?18:47
heoyea_nope18:48
Dark_Haseohow do i install nvidia drivers 310 from desktop18:49
Dark_Haseoit keeps telling me  i have to close x server18:49
|Anthony|it does autosave every 3 min though. where does it store that data18:49
heoyea_kill lightdm18:49
heoyea_where u saved to18:50
Gnea!nvidia | Dark_Haseo18:50
ubottuDark_Haseo: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto18:51
Dark_Haseoi have te .run file from nvidia18:51
GneaDark_Haseo: then you're doing it wrong.18:52
Dark_HaseoD:18:52
amigamiagrazie heoyea :)18:52
GneaDark_Haseo: you *must* do it the Ubuntu way or it will break your system and won't work.18:52
theadminWhen running Emacs in X, instead of the regular white background I have a strange-looking grey one, and the scrollbar is suddenly on the left side, what gives?18:52
theadminNot too much of a problem but somewhat odd/annoying18:53
alien2050anthony: maybe check /tmp18:53
Dark_Haseoand for debian :/18:53
Dark_Haseohow18:53
GneaDark_Haseo: instructions have already been provided, please read them.18:53
|Anthony|alien2050, doesn't /tmp get wiped on boot18:53
alien2050anthony: yep, I didnt follow the whole conversation, didn't know you had rebooted already...18:54
theadminDark_Haseo: In short, open the "jockey-gtk" app, or "jockey-kde" if you're on a Qt-based desktop, and use it to install the drivers18:54
Dark_Haseohow do i see crash log files18:54
Dark_Haseoi did18:54
Dark_Haseoalready18:54
Dark_Haseoidk if the same version18:55
Dark_Haseothat nvidia.run18:55
virgohow can i add more gnome 3 taskbars, i only have one bar on the left side of the screen with full of launcher icons18:55
GneaDark_Haseo: did you install the nvidia.run?18:55
Dark_Haseono18:55
GneaDark_Haseo: good, then delete it.18:56
Dark_Haseodoes not let me18:56
Dark_Haseook18:56
Dark_Haseoi have other problems18:56
GneaDark_Haseo: let's check some things first18:56
theadminvirgo: That's the Unity dock, you can't really add another one18:56
Dark_Haseomy system crashes ramdomly18:56
GneaDark_Haseo: open a terminal and type this: lsb_release -r18:56
GneaDark_Haseo: what is the result?18:56
Dark_Haseois precise18:57
GneaDark_Haseo: okay. is it a laptop or desktop?18:57
Dark_Haseodesktop18:57
GneaDark_Haseo: self-made or did someone like dell or hp make it?18:57
virgoomg, so i should install like separate widget for another launcher-bar?18:58
Dark_Haseoself made18:58
GneaDark_Haseo: are you overclocking?18:58
Dark_Haseonop18:58
theadminvirgo: Unity doesn't have any "widgets" as a matter of fact. You might want to use Xfce or Gnome's Fallback mode for a gnome2-like experience18:59
GneaDark_Haseo: when's the last time it crashed and why do you think it happened?18:59
theadmin!notunity | virgo18:59
ubottuvirgo: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic18:59
Dark_Haseovirgo: u can install conky or screenlets18:59
Dark_Haseoramdomly about 1  hour18:59
Dark_Haseoi dont have any idea19:00
GneaDark_Haseo: do you have a fan and heatsink on your cpu?19:00
OerHeksDark_Haseo, you mentioned cinnamon desktop, could that be the cause of your problems?19:00
Dark_Haseoi have a thermaltake ruby orb19:00
Dark_Haseomy cpu is a athlonx2 6400+19:00
GneaDark_Haseo: is it clean?19:01
Dark_Haseoi dont think so19:01
Dark_Haseoin clean ubuntu happens aswell19:01
Dark_Haseoeven whit novou drivers19:01
Mike3620http://www.linkedin.com/in/mike3620 <-- join up with me on linkedin peoples. I need Ubuntu jobs.19:01
GneaDark_Haseo: well, a  buildup of dust and such on the heatsink will cause the fan to not pull much heat off of the cpu, resulting in overheating, which likely causes the system to shut itself off or do wonky things.19:01
PiciMike3620: Please don't spam here.19:01
Mike3620it's not spam I only posted it once.19:02
GneaMike3620: it IS spam, this is not the correct forum for it.19:02
theadminMike3620: It's spam if it's not related to any support issue.19:02
PiciMike3620: Its an unsolicited URL.19:02
Dark_Haseoi need new thermal paste but19:02
Dark_Haseoit crashes only on unbuntu19:02
GneaDark_Haseo: yes, using thermal paste is required as well19:02
Dark_Haseotested arch and windows19:02
Dark_Haseofedora19:03
Dark_Haseoonly ubuntu crashes so badley19:03
n-iCeis there a way to create a booteable xp usb iso?19:03
Dark_Haseon-ice google it19:03
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h00kDark_Haseo: you may want to review our !guidelines on helping support people in the channel19:04
h00k!guidlines > Dark_Haseo19:04
theadminn-iCe: Yes, search for "winusb"19:04
h00k!guidelines > Dark_Haseo19:04
ubottuDark_Haseo, please see my private message19:04
theadminErr...19:04
theadminI suppose that's bit too generic.19:04
h00kalso, n-iCe: Please check ##windows for Windows support19:05
theadminn-iCe: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html - here you go19:05
Dark_Haseoisnt this channel for ubuntu related ? oly19:06
theadminDark_Haseo: Well, we're talking about creating the stick on Ubuntu and the process differs a lot, so...19:06
DrgrovNow I can not seem to remember the syntax. I am in tty1 and made sudo chmod +x NVIDIA....19:06
DrgrovBut now can not remember how to run it.19:06
Dark_Haseomy bad19:06
Drgrovsudo sh /.NVID?19:06
ikoniaDrgrov: are you sure you want to run it ?19:07
heoyea_sudo sh nvidia.run19:07
Drgrovikonia: Of course I want to run it. Why not?19:07
ikoniaDrgrov: because it will install something outside of the ubuntu package manager which interacts with the kernel19:07
theadminDrgrov: Because you don't use the official Nvidia installer to install NVidia drivers on Ubuntu19:07
theadminWell, normally, anyway19:07
BlueEagleDrgrov: More likely is `./NVIDIA` as . indicates the current directory19:07
DrgrovI enabled xdagers or something PPA to get the latest linux kernel.19:08
ikoniawhy ?19:08
DrgrovSo I have the "latest" kernel. This is the last thing I test and then I give up.19:08
ikoniawhy have you done that19:08
ikoniawhy do you need the latest kernel19:08
Drgrovikonia: Well, read the bloody logs and see how long I have been struggling with getting the beautiful stock nVidia drivers on ubuntu to work properly and you understand.19:09
theadmin"Latest" is far not always "greatest", Drgrov. Using a kernel that's outside Ubuntu's official repositories can be even dangerous, if I understand right, this channel can't support such a setup.19:09
ikoniaDrgrov: drop the attitude, I'm just trying to understand and stop you making a mess of your system19:09
Dark_Haseoit is save to install ubuntu from a multiboot usb¿19:09
theadminDark_Haseo: If you mean "safe", then sure, why not19:09
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MonkeyDustDark_Haseo  yes, i use multiSystem to that end, find it on the pendrive website19:10
Drgrovikonia: Yeah, you know what... Drop the attitude is something you can tell someone else. Been messing with this for the past 25 hours almost. So I am fed up. Nothing more. But I do understand what you mean.19:10
h00kDark_Haseo: if you can verify the install image, then sure19:10
locojaymmh install 12.10 did not help . i get the application compiz has closed unexpectedly19:10
h00k!verify | Dark_Haseo19:10
ubottuDark_Haseo: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows19:10
Drgrovbut when the things do not work as intended I have to test this at least :)19:10
ikoniaDrgrov: no, you don't19:10
ikoniayou have to work it through logically19:10
Drgrovtheadmin: Fine :)19:10
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ikoniaand I'm telling you to drop the attitude, not someone else19:10
ikoniaDrgrov: do you have an unusual card ?19:11
ikoniaDrgrov: what problems have you had with it19:11
Dark_Haseoi tryed to install ubuntu 12.10 on my brothers pc , the installers freezes on region/country select menu19:11
locojay12.10 did therefore not recognize the intel hd 3000 as it as unity problems19:11
Drgrovikonia: I have a perfectly normal nVidia GTS250 1GB PCI-E 16X. Had it working perfectly in 10.04. I do not get my screen resolution to show up as 1920x1080.19:11
theadminlocojay: Uh... Unity needs proper 3D acceleration, Intel cards seriously lack that sometimes19:12
ikoniaDrgrov: ok, so have you checked if that card is still supported in the current later drivers ?19:12
Drgrovikonia: Yes, it is supported. It recognizes it.19:12
ikoniaDrgrov: (what recognises it)19:12
Drgrovikonia: nVidia.com shows the latest 310.19 that is supporting my GTS250.19:13
locojayhow can i login to see that it at least got the intel card . under 12.04 i had so something different19:13
ikoniaDrgrov: ok, great, so what versions ship with the ubuntu version you are using19:13
mastershakehey guys, for some reason youtube and all video streaming isnt working for me right now, its happened before, restarting doesnt work, switching browsers doesnt either. what can i do?19:13
Drgrovikonia: 310.1919:13
theadminlocojay: 12.04 had support for Unity-2D, it was dropped in 12.10. Try another desktop, maybe. Xfce is something I'd recommend19:13
theadminmastershake: In about any browser, try going to "about:plugins" and see if you find the Flash Player there.19:14
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ikoniaDrgrov: ahh perfect, so ubuntu ships with 310.19 and nvidia.com says it supports it19:14
Dark_Haseohook: i tryed to install ubuntu 12.10 on my brothers pc , the installers freezes on region/country select menu19:14
ikoniaDrgrov: so walk me through what happened next ?19:14
locojaystill have 12.04 but there i can get the intel to be recognized . not use if 12.10 did?19:14
mastershaketheadmin: ITS THERE19:14
mastershaketheadmin: *its there19:14
locojayanyway i can check via root ssh19:14
GneaDrgrov: do you see the 310 package if you type this into a terminal:  apt-cache search nvidia19:15
theadminmastershake: Hm, okay... Is it enabled?19:15
mastershaketheadmin: well, it just says flash.19:15
mastershakeshockwave flash19:15
theadminmastershake: Ah, okay, well that's the right one anyway19:15
theadminmastershake: Are you on 32- or 64-bit, and which Ubuntu version?19:15
mastershake64 12.1019:15
Drgrovikonia: Yes. So I checked I had noveau enabled and not a propreiatay nvidia. I installed the nvidia-current but did not help at all. Then I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current even after I had linux-headers and linux-source installed. No luck there either.19:16
DrgrovGnea: I see it. I see nvidia-current, nvidia-current-updates, nvidia-experimental. Both 304 and 310 it seems.19:16
ikoniaDrgrov: ok, so did you verify you have noveau ?19:16
GneaDrgrov: okay, is nvidia-experimental-310 installed?19:16
mastershaketheadmin: it was working normally before. idk why it does this19:16
theadminmastershake: I still haven't gotten my hands on 12.10, but, eh, try running this: "apturl apt:adobe-flashplugin?channel=quantal-partner"19:17
Drgrovikonia: Yes, that is what I said that I had only noveau installed once I did sudo dkpg reconfigure nvidia-current.19:17
DrgrovGnea: No, it is not installed. Should I maybe try and install that experimental instead?19:17
ikoniaDrgrov: how did you verify it was using noveau19:17
GneaDrgrov: since that seems to be the ONLY semi-official ubuntu branding of the 310 driver, I would say yes.19:17
Drgrovikonia: I went into System Software (might be wrong spelling, can not see) and then pressed Additional Drivers and it said there was no Properiatary Driver in use,.19:18
GneaI say 'semi-official' since it's considered 'unstable' :-)19:18
ikoniaDrgrov: ok, so thats not a good way to verify, but I understand why you did that19:18
ikoniaDrgrov: what is your current status ?19:19
DrgrovGnea: Okay. I do not actually mind as long as I get some decent screen resolution and not stuck with some utterly pathetic 800x600 and some times 1360x768.19:19
GneaDrgrov: well, try it out and see what happens. Also, get rid of any other drivers that might be trying to load at the same time.19:19
Drgrovikonia: The current status is that I removed everything associated with nVidia + linux-headers-generic. I only have now that untested kernel in use. 3.7.xx something.19:20
xxuhuh19:20
xx:)19:20
Gnea3.6.9 is the latest, according to kernel.org19:20
xxright ont drgrov19:20
ikoniaDrgrov: so I'd suggest dropping back to everything stable, removing anything from a PPA19:21
mastershaketheadmin: quantal-partner is not known19:21
ikoniathen working forward19:21
Drgrovikonia: Okay, I will go back into GUI and install the officially supported kernels back.19:21
DrgrovBrb19:21
GneaDrgrov: I agree with ikonia: you're trying to get something to work on an untested platform that you haven't gotten to work before.19:21
ikoniaDrgrov: not just install the old stuff, remove anything to do with a PPA19:21
mastershaketheadmin: its telling me "the channel quantal partner is not known"19:23
hdtdihi guys  i have ati radeon xpress 256mb, intel dual core 1.6ghz, i got 2gb ddr ram. is the latest ubuntu going to run flawless or i should install older version ?19:23
DrGrovikonia: Okay, now I am stuck with 848xsomething and do not see anything.19:23
DrGrovikonia: Okay, now I am stuck with 848xsomething and do not see anything.19:23
DrGrovikonia: So, how to proceed now?19:23
ikoniaDrGrov: you've removed all PPA software ?19:24
qasimhi19:24
DrGrovikonia: I am about to do that now.19:24
ikoniathen why are you asking me what to do ?19:24
ikoniaI told you to remove all PPA software and put it back to stable19:24
ikoniayou've not done that yet....so there is no point in any more discussion19:24
mastershakehey guys, for some reason youtube and all video streaming isnt working for me right now, its happened before, restarting doesnt work, switching browsers doesnt either. what can i do?19:24
DrGrovikonia: You are in a bit of cranky mood aren't you? :)19:24
b14d3hdtdi: What will you be doing with it?19:24
ikoniaDrGrov: no, not at all19:24
qasimi have downloaded xubuntu 12.10 but when i try to write the image on a CD it does not do it properly19:25
mastershakehey guys, for some reason youtube and all video streaming isnt working for me right now, its happened before, restarting doesnt work, switching browsers doesnt either. what can i do?19:26
hdtdib14d3, watching movies, run some apache and mysql (for my own purposes its not going to be online), chat..19:26
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qasimis there any procedure to burn CD in ubuntu 6.06?19:26
mastershakehey guys, for some reason youtube and all video streaming isnt working for me right now, its happened before, restarting doesnt work, switching browsers doesnt either. what can i do?\19:27
DrGrovikonia: Okay, good. I am lost actually a bit with restoring. How can I easily see what is from a 3rd party PPA and what is stock?19:27
ikoniaDrGrov: there is a tool called "ppapurge" however I don't have %100 confidence in it19:27
ikoniaDrGrov: depending on what's installed by the PPA depends on how I normally look at removing what's been changed19:28
ikoniait's worth looking at ppapurge though19:28
b14d3hdtdi: The only thing that concerns me would be watching movies. Everything else should be fine, the low card ram makes me nervous. Does it have the functionality to "borrow" from system ram too?19:28
theadminikonia: ppapurge merely removes the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list files related to the ppa, not the packages, right?19:28
DrGrovikonia: I will just reinstall the whole thing. Put in 12.04 instead where I could at least get 1920x1080 to show up from time to time :)19:28
ikoniatheadmin: no it does remove (or try to) remove the packages and re-apply the origional packages from the stable repo19:29
ikoniatheadmin: it doesn't always work19:29
theadminikonia: Oh, cool :)19:29
ikoniahence me not having %100 confidence in it19:29
mastershakehey guys, for some reason youtube and all video streaming isnt working for me right now, its happened before, restarting doesnt work, switching browsers doesnt either. what can i do?\19:29
ikoniaI know others feel pretty positive about it19:29
DrGrovikonia: Could be easier to work from 12.04 forward to get it back?19:29
ikoniamastershake: a good start would be not asking the same questions 3 times in 5 minutes19:29
locojayunder 12.04 i still only see Gallium 0.4 on llvm . unfortunatly vnc is redraws slowly. any other way to make things someth without having it recognize the intel graphics 300019:29
DrGrovikonia: Or working from 12.04 to get the resolution sticking as it should.19:29
ikoniaDrGrov: I don't see a difference in 12.04/12.10 in terms of difficulty19:29
xibalbais it relatively trivial to get setup as an ubuntu mirror? I was thinking of doing so for our data center, going to try and measure the traffic to us.archive.ubuntu.com first to see if it's worthwhile19:30
DrGrovikonia: No but I would keep it completely clean now then if I did install 12.04.19:30
hdtdib14d3, i dont think so.. its ati radeon xpress 1100 .. kinda of a stupid video card..19:30
ikoniaDrGrov: you would keep it clean if you did a 12.10 install19:30
DrGrovikonia: Yes but I am worried I will never get 1920x1080 out in 12.10. Just in 12.04.19:30
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ikoniathat's your choice19:31
b14d3hdtdi: If that's your only problem, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Maybe some research on the card could be done, but I don't see any issues with the other functionality.19:31
hdtdib14d3, i am nervous about the ram.. because its 2gb ddr.. and if i start apache,mysql, netbeans, skype, and a browser.. i guess its going to be preetyy slow19:31
DrGrovikonia: Okay, I will be back within 30-45 minutes after I installed. Talk to you later.19:31
hdtdiis it not?19:31
theadminDrGrov: I'd say stick to LTS releases, they are often more stable. You can upgrade directly to 14.04 when it's out, or if you have a microwave.19:31
rymate1234yay for ruining graphics preformance :o19:31
DrGrovtheadmin: Okay :)19:31
DrGrovtheadmin: Yes, that is probably why I kept with 10.04 that long.19:31
rymate1234anyone know the package name for the open source radeon graphics19:31
DrGrovBe back in a little while19:31
OerHeksxibalba, it is easy to setup a mirror, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors19:32
rymate1234that way I can stop using vesa >.<19:32
b14d3hdtdi: Skype was never mentioned :) Apache and MySQL running as largely background processes would be ok. I think overall it would be fine with those things too, ignoring of course the (what I suspect will be) the slow video play.19:32
xibalbaOerHeks, do they use ANYCASTING?19:32
OerHeksxibalba, sorry, i don't know what anycasting is :(19:32
mastershakecan anyone lend a helping hand???19:32
rymate1234hello?19:33
qasimplease help me guys.. i have  downloaded xubuntu and now i want to burn the io image on a  cd but im unable to do it properly19:33
rymate1234anyone know the package name for the open source radeon graphics19:33
theadminrymate1234: xserver-xorg-video-radeon19:33
rwilsonI wrote a bash script that generates random ipv4 addresses in a while loop  how do i multithread the process of generating the addresses within the loop without creating an Infinit number of processes19:33
rymate1234thx19:33
xibalbaOerHeks, real simple basically local manipulation of routing on a specific IP to redirect it internally or localized19:33
hdtdib14d3, what is the default desktop environment ? isnt kde and gnome too heavy for my laptop ?19:33
mastershakeqasim: everyone gets ignored here dont even bother asking19:34
heoyea_rwilson: maybe in the bash channel19:34
BlueEaglehdtdi: Ubuntus default is Gnome. Kubuntu has KDE and Xubuntu has XFCE4. Of those XFCE4 is the lightest.19:34
b14d3Thanks for that BlueEagle. I'm rusty on that, I almost entirely use CLI19:35
qasimis there anyone listening to me?19:35
theadminBlueEagle: I'd say Lubuntu (with LXDE) is even lighter19:35
BlueEaglehdtdi: There is no problem in installing XFCE4 after running a regular Ubuntu installation. It will take up more harddisk space, but performance wise running XFCE4 from an Ubuntu installation that has been added Xubuntu-desktop is no different from a clean Xubuntu installation. At least I have not been able to detect a difference.19:36
pidI didnt chose a swap partition(didnt get how). is that a big problem? i have 4GB, want to runt hings like MPLABX(netbeans). I never got hwo to make the swap partition in the install19:36
hdtdiBlueEagle, so basically i can install xubuntu and it will be like ubuntu with a lighter dekstop environment?19:36
BlueEagletheadmin: You can say that. However Lubuntu is not an official Canonical product, is it?19:37
theadminpid: It's not a problem to be honest, you won't be able to hibernate though19:37
theadminBlueEagle: Already is acknowledged officially19:37
b7r3b3Lhey guys.. i'm new here..19:38
BlueEaglehdtdi: That is correct. You will however note that a lot of applications will require Gnome or KDE spesific libraries. But these are installed automatically so you really don't have to think about it.19:38
hdtdithank you for the help BlueEagle b14d3  :)19:38
b7r3b3Lneed help19:38
b14d3qasim: Yes. Sorry. A lot is currently going on (irl and irc) what was your question?19:39
BlueEagleb7r3b3L: Welcome. You may want to check out the link in the topic if you have questions.19:39
b14d3!ask | b7r3b3L19:39
ubottub7r3b3L: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:39
BlueEagletheadmin: Sorry, that sentence does not make any sense.19:39
BlueEagletheadmin: And I appear to be wrong on the Canonical support.19:40
theadminBlueEagle: Well basically if you ask a Lubuntu question in this channel you'll get an answer without anyone shoo-ing on you :P19:40
b7r3b3LWHAT IS THIS IRC.. i dont know anything abt it. a friend of mine suggested me to go on in it once..19:42
winb!irc19:42
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines19:42
theadminb7r3b3L: This exact channel is support for the Ubuntu operating system.19:42
b7r3b3Lgot it.. how do we set/change a login screen for a GENOME19:43
BlueEagleb7r3b3L: Please read the link that ubottu sent you regarding the guidelines. In a gist it is a user support forum where you may ask questions. Typically people prefer that you have tried googling before asking here. Though that may just be me. Again, please read the links in /topic19:43
BlueEagleb7r3b3L: And changing the login screen for Gnome is typically something that is googlable and first hit is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022319:44
bandit-leddont feed the trolls19:44
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theadminBlueEagle: That's outdated information, Ubuntu doesn't use GDM since Oneiric I think, and other releases don't use it since Quantal.19:45
b7r3b3Li tried it and succeded so far for enabling login screen through GDM. but customising the login screen with our own screens, i couldn't find a proper way19:45
bandit-ledb7r3b3L, what are you wanting to change the backgronud?19:46
bandit-ledbackground'19:46
BlueEagleb7r3b3L: I am sorry. The correct phrase to google is: change unity login screen19:46
BlueEagletheadmin: Thank you for pointing that out.19:47
b7r3b3Lthanks for help.. will check it now19:47
theadminBlueEagle: The new login manager is called "lightdm" so searching on that will bring better hits19:47
vitimiti(·_·)/19:47
raubThe asterisk-sounds-extra no longer exists. What was it replaced with?19:47
ActionParsnipBlueEagle: not:  change lightdm background        as lightdm is the login manager?19:48
BlueEagleb7r3b3L: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-change-lightdm-login-screen.html was the 3rd hit.19:48
bandit-ledhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/64001/how-do-i-change-the-wallpaper-in-lightdm19:48
ActionParsnipraub: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423892/   maybe.....19:49
BlueEagletheadmin: Since you know this better than me, why don't you be so kind and help b7r3b3L along with this then?19:49
theadminBlueEagle: I actually have no idea about it, I know there's a KCM which does it, but uh, dunno about any configurators for other desktops19:50
JohnnNewbHello there I am not sure if this is the right place to ask this question. Unfortunately Ubuntu was giving me a error I could not fix after trying several times. I then proceeded to remove it and then reinstalled it. Is the original partition still there?19:51
BoomerBileI've just purchased 2 ssl certificates i'm going to activate... i have to choose from server types = apache openssl, apache modssl, apache raven, apache ssleasy, apache2 and apache + apache ssl.... which one does ubuntu ship with and how can i find out?19:51
b14d3JohnnNewb: Could be. It depends on the steps you took during installation.19:51
b14d3JohnnNewb: Well, reinstallation, as the case may be.19:52
JohnnNewbb14d3 Is there any way for me to check if it is still there?19:52
MonkeyDustBoomerBile  the repos have apache219:52
b14d3You already have Ubuntu on there, functioning, right?19:53
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JohnnNewbYes using it now, so much better then Windows in some ways. But the reason I asked was because I had a error but I could not send a report because I did not have enough memory. This did not happen before.19:54
BoomerBileMonkeyDust, so choose apache2?19:54
MonkeyDustBoomerBile  sounds the most obvious to me, but better ask in #ubuntu-server19:54
goddardvmware crashes19:55
goddardit did work before my update19:55
b14d3JohnnNewb: If you remember specific information about it you can do sudo fdisk -l and it iwll print out the different partitions19:55
thor1hi guys19:56
b14d3s/iwll/will/19:56
JohnnNewb<b14d3> What kind of information? I ran gparted to check but since I am a newb I am not too sure at what I was looking at.19:56
b14d3JohnnNewb: Ah. That makes things slightly more complicated.19:57
Zaelsomebody want to help me troubleshoot an interesting issue? i just started receiving segmentation faults anytime i try to run anything19:57
thor1I need your help with a problem, wine can't run some aplications because it doesn't recognize my graphic card19:57
Zaeli'm suprised irc is still working19:57
JohnnNewbI'm also not too sure how to use this chat so my apologies if you don't see a message. And I should have been more clear I jusr ran it now. With the reinstalled version of Ubuntu19:58
thor1I was searching on sinaptyc, and I finded that: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is marked like installed, also nvidia courrent19:58
thor1I need uninstall at definitly the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau?19:58
BlueEagleJohnnNewb: in a terminal type: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit19:59
BlueEagleJohnnNewb: It will ask you for the password and then give you a link like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423909/19:59
BlueEagleJohnnNewb: If it sais that it cannot find pastebinit you need to install it first.19:59
Zaelanybody know if this could be because the drive remounted read-only on an error?19:59
DrGrovikonia: Now I am running 10.04 as a completely fresh install. That is a relief :)19:59
DrGrovikonia: I directly got "System program problem detected". I try to report problem and see what is the program causing it.20:00
DrGrovikonia: /usr/bin/jockey-text is the first.20:00
JohnnNewbBlueEagle I ran the code? command? Got some information but I don't see a link anywhere20:01
Zaelyeah, i'm getting either segmentation faults or input/output errors when trying to run anything but 'ps'20:01
BlueEagleJohnnNewb: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit20:01
BlueEagleJohnnNewb: You need to include |pastebinit20:01
b14d3JohnnNewb: Willing to bet you don't have pastebinit installed.20:01
BlueEagleJohnnNewb: note that | is a vertical bar, not a 1 or an l.20:01
DrGrovikonia: The second is /usr/bin/jockey-gtk. I enabled at install to install updates while it installs. Are these two things connected somehow?20:02
DrGrovikonia: Should I do all the upgrades now at once or wait until I get the nVidia running with correct display resolution?20:03
PiciZael: boot from a live CD and see if you can get SMART data from the disk.20:03
JohnnBlueEagle my apologies something happened to the connection20:04
tjbiddlecan i get apt-get to install a package without trying to finish up another package that failed earlier?20:05
DrGrovWho was the other person I was talking to about this whole nVidia thing? Sorry can not remember anymore, even though it is merely 20 minutes ago :(20:06
JohnnBlueEagle Could you give me the code again?20:06
BlueEagleJohnn: Not to worry. As I was saying. You need to include the |pastebinit so the command is `sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit` Note that the | is a vertical bar, not a 1, l, \ or /20:07
DrGrovIs it safe to install all those updates that come up in 12.04 after installing it? I am wondering if anything of that it installs is connected to my nVidia problem.20:07
EmanonSo my screen keeps blanking after a period of inactivity even though I have it explicitly set not to do so. Is there something I can do to fix this?20:08
BlueEagleDrGrov: In general it is not safe to not install updates as more often than not they do contain security fixes.20:08
nakkoris this the right channel for a log rotate issue on 12 LTS?20:08
BlueEaglenakkor: Most likely.20:08
JohnnBlueEagle http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423933/ here you go. Thank You so much for your help.20:09
DrGrovBlueEagle: Okay, I was following just the instructions when I installed 12.04 just now. That it downloads them while I install.20:09
ActionParsnipEmanon: what make and model system (if it has one), what video chip?20:09
BlueEagleJohnn: Did you install using Wubi?20:10
b14d3Johnn: It looks ok, in general. Do you remember what partition information you had created before your reinstall?20:10
npereahello20:10
npereaeverybody20:10
npereathere is no rooms here???20:10
JohnnBlueEagle yes.20:10
Picinperea: What?20:10
b14d3!irc | nperea20:10
ubottunperea: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines20:10
ActionParsnipnperea: nope, only channels20:10
Johnnbl4d3 I just followed the instructions in Wubi I went with the suggestion they gave me20:11
BlueEagleJohnn: Then you need to boot windows and check the windows file system. Wubi installs the "partition" as a file in the windows partition. It is in that sense not a real partition.20:11
DrGrovikonia: How should I proceed with this now then?20:11
b14d3I'm not familiar with the Wubi install, so I don't know if it would remove/delete any partitions during install.20:11
EmanonActionParsnip: Asus G53J GeForce GTX 460M20:11
ActionParsnipb14d3: wubi installs ubuntu to a file on yourNTFS20:12
ActionParsnipEmanon: can you please pastebin the output of:    sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia20:12
b14d3ActionParsnip: So in theory it shouldn't be doing ANYTHING with partitions. But would it's former partition information be kept on a reinstall?20:13
JohnnBlueEagle My apologies perhaps I'm using language to which I don't know the exact meaning. So perhaps there is no partition at all then?20:13
ActionParsnipb14d3: it may have the c:\wubi folder still20:13
b14d3ActionParsnip: Much as I hate to ask, think you could convey that to Johnn? I don't want something to be lost in translation if I try.20:14
ActionParsnipJohnn: ^ read above20:14
EmanonActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423944/20:14
npereathanks you all ActionParsnip b14d3 and ubottu20:14
DrGrovActionParsnip: Is that nVidia issues you asked for a pastebin output regarding direct rendering or screen resolution or even both?20:14
BlueEagleJohnn: Wubi creates the linux "parititon" as a file in the windows file system. You can perhaps think of it much like the windows swap file. Check C:\Ubuntu or C:\Wubildr* for more than one root.disk file.20:14
ActionParsnipEmanon: you don't have an inbuilt GPU in the CPU, this is good :)20:14
ActionParsnip!info nvidia-experimental-31020:15
ubottuPackage nvidia-experimental-310 does not exist in quantal20:15
EmanonActionParsnip: Yea it's a gaming desktop replacement laptop.20:15
ActionParsnipEmanon: where did you get the driver from?20:15
ActionParsnipEmanon: the package you have is not from the main repos20:15
Johnnbl4d3 are you asking me? I suppose it is then20:15
EmanonThe driver helper in Ubuntu 12.1020:15
EmanonActionParsnip: In the sources tool.20:16
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ActionParsnipEmanon: have you tried the 304 driver instead?20:16
EmanonI will do so if you think it will help.20:16
ActionParsnipEmanon: may help, its free too :)20:17
EmanonOne moment while it applies.20:17
EmanonThe 304 is Proprietary it says.20:17
EmanonNouveau is the FOSS one.20:18
JohnnBlueEagle I only see one root.disk file20:18
EmanonBut Nouveau doesn't handle my dual monitor setup properly for some strange reason.20:18
ActionParsnipEmanon: yes, both the 310 an 304 are made by nvidia, the nouveau one is made by the community20:18
BlueEagleJohnn: Then you should be good.20:18
DrGrovActionParsnip: Sorry for disturbing you. Could you perhaps assist me with the same kind of nVidia problem that Emanon has afterwards you are ready?20:19
JohnnAwesome : ] Another question I have if you don't mind. How come all of the documents from windows will not load in UBuntu? I have to go through Host User etc.. a bit of a hassle really. Is thera any shortcut?20:19
ActionParsnipDrGrov: what's the issue?20:19
JohnnBlueEagle20:19
EmanonI had totally forgotten I was using the 310 (which I assume is less stable than the 304 and likewise for the 304 to the tested).20:19
locojayhow can i kill x to run Xorg -configure?20:20
DrGrovActionParsnip: The issues is that I have had both 12.04 and 12.10 installed and never got the screen resolution to stick as it should. Not sure about direct rendering either. Now running 12.04 again from a completely fresh install where I wiped everything just to make sure. I have a LG 1080p 42" LCD TV which is at 1920x1080 60Hz and I can not get my nVidia GTS250 1GB PCI-E 16X GPU to get a higher resolution than 1360x768 even though I had 1920x1080@620:21
theadminlocojay: sudo stop lightdm20:21
EmanonThe driver has applied should I restart the machine or at least X to see a change or is it ok now?20:21
BlueEagleJohnn: You mean that you want ~/Documents to point to the same documents as you find in windows under c:\users\<username>\Documents?20:21
DrGrovActionParsnip: I gotta restart after those 12.04 updates now are ready. The updates it downloaded while installing. I will be back in a little while.20:22
ActionParsnipDrGrov: have you tried using an xorg.conf file?20:22
ActionParsnipoh well20:22
JohnnBlueEagle Yes exactly. I suppose I have a bit to learn about Linux and Ubuntu. But I think it will be worth it I even donated some money when I downloaded it.20:22
locojaythanks20:23
EmanonActionParsnip: Should I restart anything or is applying the driver enough?20:23
EmanonAlso, thank you ActionParsnip.20:23
BlueEagleJohnn: You have two options. You can replace the ~/Documents directory with a link to the place where windows store the files or you can place a shortcut within ~/Documents to easier access the windows documents.20:23
locojayFATAL: Error inserting i915 (/lib/modules/3.2.0-34-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko): No such device20:23
ActionParsnipEmanon: no worries :). Yes give a reboot a try20:24
ActionParsnipDrGrov: have you tried using an xorg.conf file?20:24
JohnnBLueEagle How would I go about with a shortcut within the documents?20:24
EmanonActionParsnip: alright, brb.20:24
BlueEagleJohnn: If you go for the first option rename ~/Documents to ~/Documents.old and then run: ln -s /path/to/windows/docs ~/Documents20:24
BlueEagleJohnn: If you go for the second option run: ln -s /path/to/windows/docs ~/Documents/WinDocs20:25
DrGrovActionParsnip: Yes, I have tried and actually got it somehow working after enabling the nVidia current drivers. But when I was running nvidia-settings I could not save to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Should I install synaptic now just in case, would perhaps make a lot of things easier?20:25
NightwatchI installed vnstat to see why box was moving slow. Found that my rx: is 50 Mbits/s - is there a way to track down what program/connection is using that much bandwidth20:25
DrGrovActionParsnip: I got the right resolution then at 1920x1080 but I after reboot it reverted back to 1360x768 and I had no choice to get 1920x1080 back.20:25
ActionParsnipDrGrov: run:   sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings        set the res and refresh rate to something20:25
JohnnBlueEagle could I replace the Documents with downloads music etcc to get the shortcuts to the other folders too?20:25
BlueEagleJohnn: You could also navigate to the windows document folder and right-drag it to your Documents folder and select "create link" or "create shortcut".20:25
ActionParsnipDrGrov: then run:   gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf      manually set the resolution to what you want20:26
DrGrovActionParsnip: How should I enable the nVidia drivers now? From additional drivers?20:26
DrGrovActionParsnip: Or should I install synaptic and pick it from there?20:26
BlueEagleJohnn: Are you referring to the list on the left of the file browser?20:26
ActionParsnipDrGrov: how would using synaptic be an different to useing software centre which is already installed?20:26
DrGrovActionParsnip: Yes, that is true. I just am more comfortable with Synaptic since my 10.04 days. :)20:27
ActionParsnipDrGrov: you can run:   sudo apt-get install nvidia-current    to install te proprietary driver20:27
JohnnBlueEagle no the folders inside of the home folder. So for example documents to windows documents, music to the folder of windows music,  pictures to the windows folder etc20:27
EmanonOk, ActionParsnip back, going to let it sit for a while and see if it blanks out.20:27
BlueEagleJohnn: In theory any file and directory in Linux can be replaced by a link to somewhere else. This is because linux handles links quite differently than windows.20:27
DrGrovActionParsnip: Okay, will do that sudo apt-get install nvidia-current then and the same time install synaptic :)20:27
BlueEagleJohnn: `ln -s <target> <linkname>` creates a symbolic link to <target> called <linkname>. A symbolic link is close to what short cuts are in Windows.20:28
DrGrovActionParsnip: Okay, I am now installing nvidia-current.20:29
JohnnBlueEagle oooh ok20:29
Googol30I'm back, and I need help again.  Still trying to get a static IP on Ubuntu Server 12.04 and everywhere I look says I have to change my DNS servers to something different, but no 2 points of reference are the same.20:29
locojayhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1423975/20:29
Googol30Does this mean what I set as the DNS servers doesn't matter?20:29
JohnnBlueEagle I think those are all my questions! Thank You so much for your help!20:30
ActionParsnipGoogol30: you can run:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null20:31
DretomgeoI'm interested in creating music from the command line.  Does anyone know of software relating to that?20:31
NightwatchI installed vnstat to see why box was moving slow. Found that my rx: is 50 Mbits/s - is there a way to track down what program/connection is using that much bandwidth20:31
BlueEagleJohnn: You are most welcome. And welcome to the linux world.20:31
redheathi everyone...20:31
DrGrovActionParsnip: Okay, I did sudo apt-get install nvidia-current and it is now installed. What next did you say?20:31
DretomgeoNightwatch: check out "nethogs"20:31
DretomgeoNightwatch: also, iftop20:31
JohnnBlueEagle Thank You !20:32
Googol30Do I need the quotes around "nameserver 8.8.8.8"?20:32
Nightwatchthanks Dre20:32
Treadstone__71Redheat hello20:32
locojayany other way to get vnc to work better than installing the intel driver? moving windows ... flickers20:32
redheatsorry for bothering you all, I have Ubuntu 12.10 installed and every time I start and login into ubuntu I get an error message saying :20:32
redheathi Treadstone_7120:32
ActionParsnipDrGrov: if you reboot, is it ok?20:32
ActionParsnipGoogol30: yes, run it as given.20:32
DrGrovActionParsnip: I will reboot now to confirm. I have not done anything except sudo apt-get install nvidia-current.20:33
ViaNocturna85hello all20:33
Treadstone__71ViaNocturna85 Hello20:33
redheatUbuntu has experienced an internal error..and when I look inside the problem: I get evolution/calendar/factory..20:33
DretomgeoSalutations, ViaNocturna85.20:33
locojayhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1423990/20:33
DrGrovActionParsnip: I will be right back. Rebooting now to confirm.20:33
redheatwhat's that all about?20:33
Treadstone__71redheat I'm not sure, I used to get it after an install but since I have updated I don't get it anymore.20:34
redheatI already have thunder bird as my main mail program, but when it comes to calendar it is set to evolution how to change that to evolution I already went inside20:34
ActionParsnipredheat: did you upgrade from Precise or is it a clean install?20:34
redheata clean install ActionParsnip, hey, ...20:35
ActionParsnipredheat: are you fully updated?20:35
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redheatyes sir I am20:35
DrGrovActionParsnip: I should just open up Display from System Settings to confirm?20:35
redheathow do I get to set thunderbird as the default calendar program20:35
ActionParsnipDrGrov: running:  xrandr   will tell you the current res20:35
DrGrovActionParsnip: Okay, will do.20:36
ViaNocturna85redheat: At the moment that's not possible, only Evolution I'm afraid20:36
ActionParsnipredheat: system settings -> details20:36
DrGrovActionParsnip: Still stuck at 1360x768.20:36
Dretomgeoredheat: search around your menus for "software preferences" or soemthing like that.  I'm not on an Ubuntu computer right now, so I can;t verify.20:36
ViaNocturna85I had the calendar problem too but seems only gedit or Evolution are supported20:37
ActionParsnipDrGrov: ok, run:   sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings    set the res to something and click 'save to X config file', then run:  gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and set the res as you want20:37
ActionParsnipViaNocturna85: where did you hear such nonesense?20:37
thomasdHay could someone recommend a screen recorder and editing/voice over software for linux?20:37
redheatViaNocturna85, you sure about that..ActionParsnip, and you too Dretomgea20:37
ActionParsnipViaNocturna85: is it not an option in the settings?20:37
DrGrovActionParsnip: Okay, will do.20:37
redheatI can't get to change it...and I don't know why?...20:38
ViaNocturna85ActionParsnip: through Google, AskUbuntu etx20:38
ViaNocturna85ActionParsnip: You'd think so right...nope20:38
ActionParsnipredheat: thats where you set the calendar app20:38
redheatActionParsnip, I'm afraid it's like ViaNocturna85 said, the Calendar won't budge...20:38
ActionParsnipViaNocturna85: weird could add lightning20:39
Lofde_trying to "sudo dpkg -i teamviewer* && sudo apt-get install -f" the teamviewer8 deb package i downloaded... its not wanting to install dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of teamviewer:i386: teamviewer:i386 depends on bash (>= 3.0)20:39
Lofde_any help?20:39
ActionParsnipredheat: what options do you have?20:39
Googol30What do I do after echoing 8.8.8.8?  I know a decent amount of networking, but can someone tell me what DNS servers do, or what they are?20:39
ActionParsnipLofde_: what is the outputof:   lsb_release -sc20:39
heoyea_Lofde_: install version 720:39
DrGrovActionParsnip: Aha! Now with that first command sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings I can get the resolution to 1920x1080.20:39
ViaNocturna85ActionParsnip: I don't know, I think if they give an option for integrated calendars they should at least link it to an app, whats the point otherwise20:39
redheatone more side question, if possible and please all three of you pardon me for taking so much of your time, two questions actually: If I enabled Virtualization through my BIOS, and I don't have virtual swhere oftware installed would that make my computer's performance faster? and the second question is20:40
ActionParsnipGoogol30: that file holds the DNS servers for the system.20:40
ActionParsnipGoogol30: DNS servers translate names to IP addresses20:40
DrGrovActionParsnip: So I click apply only then and quit?20:40
Lofde_heoyea_, all my new windows users are downloading 8 from teamviewer.com trust me i wish i could stay on 720:40
Googol30Do I need to do anything else, or if my router is set up correctly, will I have internet?20:41
redheatwhere do I get to access the properties of my wireless adapter, I have a hp touchsmart tm2, with an intel a/b/g/ 1000 N wireless adapter...20:41
ActionParsnipGoogol30: yes, that will give you web access20:41
redheatis there a way to access that adapter properties, like we used to do in windows...20:41
Lofde_ActionParsnip, precise20:41
Lofde_12.04 lts20:41
heoyea_Lofde_: 8 on linux doest work anyways20:41
ActionParsnipredheat: sudo lshw -C network    will tell you the wifi chip20:41
Lofde_theres a beta?20:41
DrGrovI did now gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf but I did not ask for any res.20:42
barnabaHello. I rebooted my system and my ecryptfs private directory fails to mount. When I try to mount it from commandline I get: "mount: Operation not permitted". Kernel log seems to confirm that: " Reading sb failed; rc = [-1]","Mount of device (uid: 0) not owned by requested user (uid: 1000)". lsmod doesn't show ecryptfs loaded. "modprobe -v ecryptfs" returns 0, but the module still isn't loaded...20:42
ActionParsnipDrGrov: yes, then you can edit the xorg.conf file and set it as you wish20:42
ActionParsnipDrGrov: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf20:42
ActionParsnipDrGrov: it won't ask you anything, its a text file.....20:42
ViaNocturna85redheat: for the wireless adapter, I would imagine if it is connected then clicking on the network settings then 'Edit Connections' and 'Mobile Broadband' should be what you are looking for?20:42
DrGrovActionParsnip: Ah yes, I forget the text editor :)20:42
Troy^uhh hmm well seems like my 5870m does not support dual 1080p display20:43
redheatViaNocturna85, no it's not a usb modem it's a PCI express card built in, ...20:43
barnabaI'm using ubuntu 12.04 and tried googling this, found some stuff about setuid (which I think is already set) and making sure module is loaded (it isn't, but I have no idea why).20:43
ViaNocturna85redheat: And it connects alright?20:43
DrGrovActionParsnip: So how do I set the resolution here then in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? With modeline or?20:43
Lofde_actually i think i know what i did  wrong..20:44
Lofde_one sec20:44
redheatyeah, no problem, I was only asking about the settings, I mean is there a graphical interface to that?20:44
nakkorLogrotate doesn't seem to be rotating on size. I have this file (http://pastebin.com/n7KuQyJh) in /etc/logrotate.d/node and have a script to flood that log. And it never rotates on size20:44
ActionParsnipredheat: settings in what way?20:44
DrGrovActionParsnip: I mean, what should I edit in /etc/X11/xorg.conf now with gedit? You want a pastebin of it?20:46
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redheatfor example, when I went into Intel's website yesterday, and looked for that type of Wireless LAN card, they told, I should access the properties through the properties page, if you were using windows 7, and change things like, roaming aggressiveness, change the adapter to make it use the "N" technology..etc..these things you access it when you're using the20:46
ActionParsnipDrGrov: just edit the resolution in the screen section near the bottom of the file20:46
redheatwindows properties page..20:46
DrGrovActionParsnip: There is no such thing. I will copy paste the pastebin for you.20:47
ActionParsnipredheat: you can do that stuff in the little icon on the top panel20:47
Googol30Am I allowed to run a Minecraft server from a flash drive without issue, or must I edit permissions, or copy all of the files somewhere else?20:47
mazraqHi, I am trying to set up a vpn on Xubuntu 12.1020:47
ActionParsnipDrGrov: sure20:47
mazraqanyone can help?20:47
ActionParsnip!vpn20:47
ubottuFor more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN20:47
redheatby the way thank you ActionParsnip for the command, it gave me a list of the wireless card I got ...though it's a little bit jumbled for me now..20:47
DrGrovActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1424019/20:48
redheatnope not here..I mean not in linux? haven't seen that..is there a way to do that?20:48
barnabaAny help loading ecryptfs module which won't load for some reason?20:48
locojaymmh intel_gpu_top return could not find card..20:48
nakkorAny idea on how to keep a log file limited to a certain size?20:48
ActionParsnipDrGrov: change the '1920x1080' to what you desire20:48
DrGrovActionParsnip: It is what I desire, 1920x1080 :)20:49
barnabamodprobe returns 0 and shows no error, but the module ins't visible in lsmod...20:49
Googol30I'm guessing I didn't configure my router correctly?  I still do not have internet on my server.20:49
ActionParsnipDrGrov: cool, if you reboot with the file like that, does it work ok?20:49
redheatanyhow, we can leave that to later...I just need to reiterate a question i asked before, should I enable Virtualization by default in my BIOS though I'm not using any Virtualization software at all would that speed up my performance?20:49
ActionParsnipGoogol30: if you run:  ping 8.8.8.8     does it ping ok?20:49
DrGrovActionParsnip: I will test to confirm. I log out now to see whether this bad boy gives me 1920x1080 or not :)20:50
DrGrovActionParsnip: Be right back.20:50
Googol30ActionParsnip: ping 8.8.8.8 returns Destination Host Unreachable20:50
Treadstone__71redheat, that is only required for vm's I believe, no impact would be noticed with it on or off as far as normal use goes I believe.20:50
ActionParsnipredheat: enabling the virtualization won't affect the performance in any way20:51
ActionParsnipGoogol30: can you ping your default gateway?20:51
ActionParsnipredheat: all it means is if you run a virtuaization, you can run 64bit guests20:51
EmanonActionParsnip: It's still blanking after a period of inactivity.20:52
Googol30I can ping my router and the other computers on the network, but I don't have a WAN connection on my Ubuntu Server.20:52
redheatanyhow..Treadstone_71, ActionParsnip, ViaNocturna85, Dretomgeo..I am Thankful, Thankful..So much for your kind assistance and sorry too much of your time..I am thankful again folks..I really mean it thank you20:52
EmanonOn a side note how do I change the resolution of my full disk encryption passphrase entry screen on boot?20:52
EmanonIt's too low and part of the entry box is off screen.20:52
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DrGrovActionParsnip: YEAAAH!20:53
DrGrovActionParsnip: I shall be damned, the thing works as it should ;-) THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART! =)20:53
* DrGrov hugs ActionParsnip 20:53
* DrGrov runs after ActionParsnip and tries to cuddle and hug more and more20:53
ViaNocturna85lol can you feel the love20:53
DrGrovViaNocturna85: Yeah, damn! I feel the love is in the air!20:54
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DrGrovActionParsnip: You there or you got scared? :)20:56
PeterME_Hi, I'm having some problem with chmod20:56
Rollinwhats your chmod problem20:56
PeterME_I try to use it on a mounted external hard drive so I will be able to load the files on it into Plex Media Server. But it just doesn't do anything..20:57
Rollinwhat chmod command are you using in the terminal? and what user are you running the command as?20:57
EmanonDoes anyone know how to change the resolution of the encryption key entry screen (the one that appears on boot when you use full disk encryption)?20:58
PeterME_chmod 755 Peters_disk20:58
d3m0n__any1 kno how to encrypt a disk after installation?20:58
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PeterME_Doesn't matter if I run it as myself or with sudo20:58
PeterME_drwx------ 1 peter peter 131072 Dec 10 20:42 Peters_disk20:59
krofnaWhy does my computer become extremly slow on 50% CPU usage on each of 4 cores?20:59
PeterME_Outputs this from ls -al before and after chmod20:59
Googol30If, in the /etc/network/interfaces file, I have "network 192.168.1.1", does that mean I should set "gateway 192.168.1.254"?20:59
Jordan_Ukrofna: It might be memory pressure that's making it slow, rather than CPU usage.21:00
Rollinget a second opinion before you run this, but shouldn't it be "sudo chmod 755 -R Peters_disk" if you want a recursive chmod21:00
Jordan_Ukrofna: In what way is it slow, and do you have proper hardware drivers installed?21:00
d3m0n__--help21:01
d3m0n__sorry that was entered in error21:02
Treadstone__71d3mon__ did you try TrueCrypt ?21:03
Googol30I'm assuming that since, on my Windows computer, running "ipconfig /all" shows that the default gateway is 192.168.1.1.  So I have set that on my server as well... still doesn't seem to work though.21:03
superbbbhi21:03
PeterME_Rollin: I guess, mut that doesn't do anything either..21:03
d3m0n__Treadstone__71, no I have not yet. I just installed my 12.04 based os and thought I would look into encrypting my HDD21:03
d3m0n__brb21:04
aquonwqhello21:04
RollinPeterME_ what file system is the disk?21:04
d3m0n__back21:04
Treadstone__71d3mon__ I believe that 12.04 will give you the option to encrypt your home drive, but not the full drive. You would have to use the alternate install.21:04
Treadstone__71d3mon__ 12.10 will give you the option of full hdd encryption during install21:05
Emanon12.04 does do full disk encryption on the alternate install media.21:05
howlymowlyhi poeple..  I have a short question:   is it possible to use the "normal" ubuntu and ubuntu for omap "parallel"?  I mean by just copying the relevant kernel images to the boot directory  and then always boot the correct kernel for the current platform?21:05
d3m0n__ok unfortunately the os i have installed didn't give the option for an alternate install media21:06
Treadstone__71Emanon .. yes that's what I mean, thanks.21:06
Treadstone__71Howlymowly Hello.21:06
krofnaJordan_U: WHen I type it shows up on screen after a while, moving windows is very ... idk how to explain. Not smooth?21:06
PeterME_Rollin: I believe it's NTFS, but my other NTFS drive works21:06
Treadstone__71d3mon__ you would have to download the alternate install iso21:06
PeterME_Rollin: However that is an internal old boot drive21:06
athlon1hello. I'm using linux to connect to a phone with Android 4. The connection with phone (using usb cable) say it's MTP. How can I copy files to phone? Thanks21:07
d3m0n__unfortunately backbox doesn't offer an alternate install image21:07
shady__anyone?21:07
EmanonTry banshee or rhythmbox for media or maybe whatever the mtp package is for FUSE.21:07
heoyea_athlon1: maybe use Airdroid app21:07
PeterME_athlon1: Try AirDroid21:07
EmanonOr listen to them, they do this more than I do.21:08
athlon1Thanks for answer, What app??21:08
krofnaJordan_U: Memory 3.9/8 GB, swap 021:08
PeterME_athlon1: Maybe not exactly what you are looking for but it might do the trick21:08
DJonesathlon1: Have a look at the package gMTP, that may work with ICS android phones, I've had a bit of sucess, but not on a regular basis21:08
PeterME_athlon1: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sand.airdroid&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zYW5kLmFpcmRyb2lkIl0.21:09
athlon1Ok, thanks, i'm going to try. I think I worked time ago with it (but not a lot success).21:09
EmanonI just plug mine in and select USB as my protocol so it shows up as a usb drive rather than an MTP device.21:09
tim_cthi all. I need some advice. When i use evolution in the office I use an IP address but i am at home i have to use a real names address. is there anyway i could stop having to change pop and smtp info all the time21:09
PeterME_Rollin: The external drive is a "Basic Data" NTFS partition21:09
Googol30If I'm running port forwarding for a Minecraft server, do I need to forward port 25565 for both TCP and UDP, or only TCP?21:10
heoyea_sure21:10
PeterME_Rollin: While the internal one (on which I got this working) is a "HPFS/NTFS (Bootable)" NTFS partition. Not sure what that means though..21:10
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RollinPeterME_ try the steps from the forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=165182321:14
RollinPeterME_ but working with linux permissions on a NTFS disk is always a bit troubling21:15
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Bastian_bHello is there official repository address for php5.4 please?21:16
SacolaI'm new and I have a huge problem with Ubuntu21:16
roastedhi21:16
PeterME_Rollin: I know, but it's a 2TB drive with 9GB free space and I've got nowhere to put the files for a reformat..21:16
SacolaCan anyone help me?21:16
SacolaI have a simple question21:17
roastedQuestion - what's wrong with this script? - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1424084/ I want it to create the txt file ONLY if it is mounted. Problem is, it's NOT mounted, yet it's creating the text file...21:17
b14d3!ask | Sacola21:17
ubottuSacola: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:17
galups2000hi21:18
RollinPeterME_ i'd play it safe and not do any major permissions edits till the data is backed up safely elsewhere , im sure you dont want to risk corrupting 2TB of data21:19
barnabaOk, I solved my problem. Somehow without my action or knowledge some file in ecryptfs hierarchy got chowned to root ;/21:19
Googol30Rollin: I've done worse =P21:19
PeterME_As I said, it's for my media center. Only movies and shows, so not the biggest of deals to lose it..21:20
RollinGoogo130 we all have haha21:20
PeterME_Googo130: That's called living on the edge :P21:20
PeterME_Rollin: afk for a while21:21
Googol30By the way, does any RAID software come with Ubuntu?21:21
SacolaI have a Samsung laptop R540 and almost every version of Linux (including Ubuntu) have the same problem. After being suspended (or monitor dimmed) the monitor starts flickering. I have tried many solutions and updates but nothing works. Does anyone know a  Linux distribution that works nicely with Samsung laptops21:21
Rollinyou guys too risky, i've got data backed up in external drives, amazon s3, amazon glacier, and a personal server. im paranoid or prepared for the worst21:21
phunyguy_workGoogol30, mdadm21:22
phunyguy_work!info mdadm \ Googol3021:22
ubottu'\\' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable21:22
b14d3Sacola: Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but have you considered it might be a hardware issue? Or have you found other people who have the same issue?21:22
phunyguy_workerrr21:22
RollinSacola its not the laoptop brand thats the problem, let us know your gfx card type first21:22
exilarchSacola: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/108692121:22
ubottuUbuntu bug 1086921 in linux (Ubuntu) "include samsung-backlight fix in main kernel" [Medium,Fix committed]21:22
phunyguy_work!info mdadm | Googol3021:22
ubottuGoogol30: mdadm (source: mdadm): tool to administer Linux MD arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.5-1ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 516 kB, installed size 1189 kB21:22
_0x783czar"too risky, too risky!" ~Smeagol21:22
exilarchSacola: look at this21:22
Rollinwow, it is a samsung issue, i stand corrected21:23
Googol30The only problem that I have found with making backups of everything is that I commonly use the thing that I'm backing up to as my main drive, screwing up everything when I don't know what the most recent files are.21:23
SacolaDear <b14d3>, A lot of people with samsungs have this problem. Some solve it, some can't (me)21:24
mrfree_hi all, I still can't get 12.10 boots on my dell latitude :( plymouthd seems to crash on boot hanging the process http://pastebin.com/KUEj5JXC21:24
b14d3Yep, I see that from exilarch's link. Just something I hadn't encountered myself.21:24
mrfree_I can boot with "nomodeset" but then xorg doesn't start at all21:24
fsvieirahi, I want to make a copy of a folder using cp, I want cp to copy symbolic links as real files and not symbolic links, how can I do this ?21:25
Googol30It's super low priority for me right now, but since there's a massive amount of activity, I might as well ask... Does anyone know of any software that can crack Whirlpool encryption?21:25
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GRMrGeckoI'm trying to update windows 7 to SP1… Doing so I have followed http://u.webra.in/et and marked the C partition as active. Doing so seems to have made the partition with ubuntu go away… How can I recover?21:28
GRMrGeckoRecommend me following http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-data-recovery.html?21:29
GRMrGeckoI'm downloading a ubuntu live cd to put on a USB stick so I can at least get something to do the recovery.21:30
GRMrGeckothe partition which had ubuntu looks to be marked as free space now.21:30
helephantHey guys....21:30
GRMrGeckoI'm not going to install SP1 when there is this problem as I risk data loss...21:31
helephantI need help with my Ubuntu Server.21:31
phunyguy_work!ask | helephant21:31
ubottuhelephant: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:31
helephantwhat's that?21:31
helephant!Oh.21:31
helephantGuy, I need help with my Ubuntu Server. I've set up a software RAID0 but it doesn't seem to work. I'm quite much of a beginner.21:32
Tweikablewhat is the channel for rooted android quiestions?21:32
phunyguy_workhelephant, define "doesn't seem to work"21:32
helephantI've set it up upon Ubuntu Server install but I can't mount it, I think.21:33
phunyguy_workhelephant, did you follow a guide?21:33
helephantfdisk -l shows it21:33
phunyguy_workif so, link me to it and the step you are stuck on21:33
helephantNo I did not.21:34
phunyguy_workhelephant, what is "it"?  the md device?21:34
helephantYes21:34
phunyguy_workmd127?21:34
mickster04clear21:34
helephantI don't know what that means but it under /dev/md021:34
phunyguy_workcan you pastebin the output of "cat /proc/mdstat" to paste.ubuntu.com please?21:35
helephant2*200 GB IDE21:35
helephantOne moment21:35
phunyguy_workthen send on the link to the post21:35
helephantHere you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/1424131/21:35
phunyguy_workhelephant, that looks OK.  have you created a filesystem on the device?21:36
phunyguy_workfor example, sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/md021:37
helephantYes, I recently tried to format it with ext3 and the disks started to buzz and it finished without any problems (i guess)21:37
helephantI'll do it again.21:37
helephant*bbbzzzzz*21:37
helephantDone.21:37
phunyguy_workis tehre any useful output on the screen?21:37
phunyguy_workthat you can pastebin?21:38
helephantOkay21:38
GRMrGeckoAnyone help me recovery my ubuntu partition?21:38
helephanthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1424136/21:38
phunyguy_workhelephant, now what happens when you try to mount it?21:39
phunyguy_workand what mount command are you using?21:39
helephantmount /dev/md0 /mnt/raid021:39
phunyguy_workdoes /mnt/raid0 exist?21:40
helephantUm, ¨21:40
helephantwhoops21:40
phunyguy_workif so, paste the output of that command (sudo mount /dev/md0 /mnt/raid021:40
phunyguy_work:)21:40
helephantAs I said, I'm a beginner. Always used gui21:40
phunyguy_workso I take it that was the issue21:40
helephantBut how do I mount it? D:21:41
helephantthere is nothing in /mnt21:41
phunyguy_workhelephant, sudo mkdir /mnt.raid021:41
phunyguy_workerrr21:41
phunyguy_workhelephant, sudo mkdir /mnt/raid021:41
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phunyguy_workthen try that mount command again21:41
helephantmount /dev/md0 /mnt/raid021:41
helephantnow it doesn't output anything21:42
phunyguy_workyes21:42
phunyguy_workthat means it mounted.21:42
helephantI guess it's done21:42
goddardvmware crashes21:42
goddardit did work before my update21:42
helephantD:21:42
phunyguy_workhelephant, now you need to add it to /etc/fstab21:42
helephantWhat is stab?21:42
helephantfstag*21:42
b14d3Adding it to fstab will make it so it mounts at boot21:42
helephantLol, fstab*21:42
Rollingolden rule of vmware, once you have a production setup working you dont touch it unless you need something in the latest update ;-)21:43
pgibhelephant, short for "filesystem table" it is a list of filesystems and the option of mounting them automatically21:43
guntbert!enter | helephant21:43
ubottuhelephant: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:43
helephantHow do I do that?21:43
phunyguy_workhelephant, add this line to /etc/fstab - "/dev/md0 /mnt/raid0       ext4    defaults 0 0" without the quotes21:43
pgibhelephant, read about fstab 'man 5 fstab'21:43
phunyguy_workhelephant, http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html21:44
helephantfstab is a file?21:44
helephantI'll read it21:44
pgibhelephant, yes a configuration file typically located at /etc/fstab21:44
nakkorDoes anyone know why log rotate on size is not working? I have this conf file http://pastebin.com/n7KuQyJh and pump a bunch of data into the log file but it never rotates when it goes past 50M21:45
pgibsomething simple that has recently become more complicated because people want to mount by device UUID nowadays for some odd reason21:45
helephantDone.  Is that all?21:46
helephantroot@Isis:/mnt/raid0# mount -l21:46
b14d3pgib: Never understood that myself. But a bunch of guides and faqs actually recommend that you do it that way too.21:46
helephant. /dev/md0 on /mnt/raid0 type ext4 (rw) looks like it's mounted.21:47
phunyguy_workyou can try a restart to see if it mounts at boot, helephant... or you can "sudo umount /dev/md0" and then "sudo mount /mnt/raid0" to see if it picks it up.21:47
PeterME_Rollin: back21:47
helephantroot@Isis:/mnt/raid0# df -h21:47
pgibhelephant, you can test it by just doing: umount /mnt/raid0 && mount /mnt/raid0   -- notice how it mounts without you needing to specify a device21:48
phunyguy_workhelephant that command works to see if it is mounted, yes.  Just don't paste the output in the channel21:48
helephant. /dev/md0        367G  195M  348G   1% /mnt/raid021:48
helephantOkay21:48
guntbertphunyguy_work: tell him to use sudo mount -a instead of te last command - picks up everything in fstab like on boot21:48
helephantOkay, sorry. sudo umount /dev/md0 says that device is busy.21:48
phunyguy_workhelephant, restart the server and see.   guntbert, that is just as good.21:49
pgibguntbert, ahh cool21:49
phunyguy_workhelephant you need to "sudo umount /dev/md0" first21:49
pgibhelephant, you are probably sitting it in right now.  'cd' to a different directory first21:49
helephant"sudo umount /dev/md0" was exactly what I entered.21:49
GRMrGeckoFollowing http://u.webra.in/et, windows deleted my EXT partition with ubuntu, do I go about following http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-data-recovery.html to recover?21:49
helephantOh yeah lol21:49
phunyguy_workoh misread, lol21:49
phunyguy_worktxting the wife atm21:49
guntbertpgib: :) and btw: uuids are very useful when it comes to hotplugging data devices21:50
CopernicI cant get the alsa a52 plugin to work as described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DigitalAC-3Pulseaudio21:50
helephantI rebooted the server and the raid0 is mounted! Thank you so much guys!21:50
phunyguy_workno problem, helephant21:50
Copernicdoes anyone have experiance with that on ubuntu 12.04?21:51
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pgibb14d3, the only thing I can imagine is that it prevents the problem of device renaming (due primarily to adding/removing devices).21:52
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phunyguy_workend_guy, can we help you?21:52
Copernicdoes /usr/lib/alsa-lib = /usr/lib/alsaplayer/ dont think so right?21:52
b14d3pgib: Which makes sense with guntbert's comment about hotswapping I suppose21:52
Googol30If I'm assigning my server a static IP, "auto eth0" "iface eth0 inet static" "address 192.168.1.253" "netmask 255.255.255.0" "network 192.168.1.1" "broadcast 192.168.1.255"21:52
pgibyeah - i just saw his comment21:52
Googol30"gateway 192.168.1.1" will work right?21:53
end_guylol sorry, irssi was being a little laggy and I was repeating  a command21:53
phunyguy_workGoogol30, that depends, is that yoru gateway?21:53
darkhalo117Sounds good to me21:53
Googol30Is the gateway the router's IP?21:53
pgibGoogol30, for all intents and purposes: yes21:53
phunyguy_workGoogol30, yes.21:53
b14d3Googol30: Depends on your network, but generally21:53
Googol30Then yes.21:53
ikoniaGoogol30: often yes, but not always21:53
phunyguy_workikonia =P, yes very true.  However, 192.168.1.1 sounds liek a pretty standard setup on a home router.21:55
Magellanicushi21:55
helephantI've learned a lot in just a few mins, now back to schoolwork, c-u and thanks again!! o/21:55
Magellanicuseveryone21:55
Magellanicushow can i make the multimedia keys of my keyboard work with banshee21:55
Magellanicusim using linux mint21:55
Magellanicusplease help21:55
phunyguy_work!mint | Magellanicus21:55
ubottuMagellanicus: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org21:55
phunyguy_workGoogol30, also some of those lines may not be needed.  you only really need the address, netmask, and gateway in there.21:56
phunyguy_workthe rest it can figure out.21:56
Googol30Do I need to set up anything else computer side, or anything other than TCP port forwarding router side?  Anything related to NAT or DNS servers?21:57
phunyguy_work100% of the time, if your IP is 192.168.1.253, your netmask is 255.255.255.0, and your gateway is 192.168.1.1, then your network will be 192.168.1.0, and broadcast will be 192.168.1.255.21:57
phunyguy_worknetworking basics.  :)21:58
phunyguy_workGoogol30, put your ISPs DNS in /etc/resolv.conf21:58
Googol30I didn't do networking in school.  I learned useless software like Adobe Flash and Photoshop... which I somewhat regret.21:59
phunyguy_workyoru router shoudl ahndle the rest.21:59
phunyguy_workshould handle*21:59
phunyguy_work!portforward21:59
ubottuFor instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall21:59
Googol30And where do I find my ISPs DNS?  That's the part I am stuck on right now I think.21:59
MrPopinjayHey guys, this is a really stupid question but I enabled a plugin in gedit that gives you this "getting started" menu when you open a new tab rather than a blank document and I can't work out how to turn it off. It doesn't seem to be in the plugin window any moreA little help?21:59
phunyguy_workGoogol30, you can call them, or web into 192.168.1.1, and it will be there as well.21:59
Googol30But it isn't my external IP, correct?22:00
phunyguy_workGoogol30, no, it is where yoru ISP wants you to send DNS queries.22:00
wizbithttp://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do22:00
phunyguy_workwell that was useful @ wizbit22:00
guntbert!resolvconf | Googol30 phunyguy_work that changed22:01
ubottuGoogol30 phunyguy_work that changed: resolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage /etc/resolv.conf in 12.04 and later, for more information please see: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution22:01
phunyguy_workguntbert, even on a static set network?22:01
phunyguy_workahh yeah I guess so.  Follow that guide and ignore me, Googol3022:02
phunyguy_workMy network is all set dhcp with reservations for servers, so I haven't had to use it in a while.22:02
guntbertphunyguy_work: yes, that has nothing to do with the network itself, but keep in mind that many systems have very volatile settings (especially regarding DNS)22:02
phunyguy_workgood to know, guntbert22:03
Googol30I won't be able to see my DNS servers from this computer (Windows), will I? I must go through my router to do that?22:03
MaynardWatershello I want to install both 32 and 64 ubuntu along side windows. 32U and windows are already installed, when I tried to use wibi again it says I have to uninstall the 32bit before I can install the 64bit, is there a simple work around to this?22:03
phunyguy_workikonia, funny part is, I have read that blog post a few days ago, so it is odd that it popped up here.22:04
guntbertGoogol30: normally your ISP will tell you their addresses22:04
venik212How do I put my ubuntu system on a USB drive?  I do not want the .iso for fresh installation, but my customized ubuntu system from my hard drive22:04
ikoniaI don't see why that is funny22:04
ikoniait's a blog post about ubuntu.....so it's not odd that someone would paste it22:04
phunyguy_work!liveusb | venik21222:04
ubottuvenik212: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent22:04
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phunyguy_workikonia, i didnt mean that it was weird because it was pasted here, i meant it was weird that I read it and then it was pasted here.22:05
steff_org22:05
ikoniaphunyguy_work: why is that weird ?22:05
Googol30But I don't feel like calling them... lets see if the router will tell me.22:05
phunyguy_worklike coincidence22:05
ikoniaerrr not really22:05
phunyguy_work*shrug*22:05
venik212phunguy-- I am NOT trying to install ubuntu from a usb to a hard drive-- I am trying to get it from the hard drive onto a USB drive so I could take my system wherever I go22:05
ikoniait's all over the net so many people are reading it22:05
phunyguy_workvenik212, that link explains that as well.22:06
phunyguy_worksee the second link.22:06
phunyguy_workikonia, right, but why spam it?22:06
phunyguy_workI guess I will never fully undersatnd22:06
phunyguy_workgotta run.  cya guys late ron,.22:07
phunyguy_worklater on*****22:07
venik212phun-- I have been on thta link, but had hoped there would be some easier way.  It looks really convoluted, and probably outdated22:08
sc0rpi0nsome news for ati older card support on quantal?22:10
ikoniasc0rpi0n: the drivers don't support the older cards.22:10
ikoniawhy do you think that's going to change ?22:11
sc0rpi0nbecause it's not funny to have unsupported hardware?22:11
ikoniathen contact ATI and complain22:11
GRMrGeckoFollowing http://u.webra.in/et, windows deleted my EXT partition with ubuntu, do I go about following http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-data-recovery.html to recover?22:12
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BlueAssassinc'è nessuno?22:18
BlueAssassinmi rispondete?22:18
BlueAssassinhey!22:18
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BlueAssassinok thanks and sorry22:20
ikoniano problem22:21
JPMHI want to use lftp over ssh and need to tell ssh to get the generated authentication file from a non-standard place, that is not ~/.ssh - how do I set the path on the command line I see -p etc for port, just do not see how to set this22:21
ikoniaJPMH: man ssh, but it's ssh -i for the identity file22:22
JPMHikonia: yes - I know how to set it for ssh - problem is that I can not see how to pass that to lftp so it uses it22:22
ikonialftp won't use it22:22
ikonialftp has no knowledge/ability to use it22:23
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JPMHikonia: I remember using it in the past and I can set it in the config file too, I just want to put it on the command line22:23
ikoniaI disagree22:23
JPMHikonia: to what do you disagree22:24
ikoniathat it's usable like that22:25
JPMHikonia: you mean from the command line or a config file?22:25
ikoniaeither/both22:25
JPMHikonia: then you are wrong - since I have it working in the config file right now22:25
ikoniagreat22:25
goddardvmware crashes22:26
goddardit did work before my update22:26
goddardanyone had this problem after an update22:26
JPMHikonia: I have long suspected that you speak on things that you know nothing of, now you have proved it to me and everyone else here - please don't do that22:26
ikoniaJPMH: I didn't say I was right, I said I disagreed with you22:26
ikoniaidentity files are for ssh and lftp is not "aware" of ssh, so I don't see how you can pass it, that doesn't mean you can't22:27
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_0x783czarJPMH: chill22:28
JPMHikonia: you present your opinions as though you know what you are talking about when you don't - and have you noticed that lftp passes -p for example to ssh -22:29
ikoniaJPMH: I've not "notced" as I'm not using it22:29
JPMH_0x783czar: I am merely warning others of the dangers of listening to ikonia22:29
ikoniaJPMH: and I present my opion as just that, my opinion22:29
ikoniaJPMH: there is no dangers, please don't spread false information22:30
ikoniaJPMH: you're free to ignore any advice I give, but please don't spread lies that I give dangerous advice, which is simpley not true.22:30
bob_the_hamsterDoes anybody happen to know if there is a way to disable the File-Open dialog in most programs from defaulting to "Recent Files"?22:31
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ikoniaJPMH: the man page says -p is "port" so be careful, it sounds like there are different versions if -p passes the identify file in your version22:33
BlueEaglebob_the_hamster: googling that question provided several promising hits.22:33
ikoniaJPMH: that's for version 4.4.0 - so I don't know if what you have is later22:33
ikonia!info lftp22:34
ubottulftp (source: lftp): Sophisticated command-line FTP/HTTP client programs. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.8-1 (quantal), package size 452 kB, installed size 1080 kB22:34
ikoniaJPMH: again I'd now really stress caution as the version ubuntu ships with appears to be 4.3 - and the 4.4 man page says -p is "port", which is different to what you are saying -p does22:35
ikoniaare you sure -p dos identity file ?22:35
ikoniaor are you wrong ?22:35
JPMHikonia: the expression IMHO is common when you have an opinion rather than quoting something as fact which is what you do22:36
JPMHikonia: anyway - you do it - we all now have evidence - I will beware of you in the future22:36
ikoniaI didn't quote anything as fact, I disagreed with you, nothing more22:36
JPMHikonia: but thanks22:36
JPMHover and out22:36
ikoniaJPMH: looks like you are mistaken over -p22:36
ikoniawhat a surprise,22:36
ikoniaproven wrong and had to /part after calling me22:36
auronandaceikonia: looks like he doesn't like being wrong22:37
bob_the_hamsterBlueEagle: if you could see my firefox window you would see that all those google results links are purple on my screen :) Many pages suggest disabling it in privacy options. I tried that, and it has zero effect.22:37
BlueEagle<ot>What is it with the pissing contest?</ot>22:37
EmanonCould anyone tell me how to change the resolution on the encryption passphrase screen?22:37
bob_the_hamsterOther pages talk about deleting or messing with various files in ~/.local/share/ but unfortunately those workarounds didn't work for me either :(22:38
scottjif I have /home/foo/.Private mounted as /home/foo is there a way to access the original /home/foo w/o unmounting the .Private one?22:38
bob_the_hamsterMy "Recent Files" just won't die :(22:38
BlueEaglebob_the_hamster: Well it would have been good of you to mention that when asking the question then. I therefore assume you have tried to set +i to recently-used.xbel too?22:39
DrGrovHi everyone. Is anyone using LibreOffice at the moment with a newer version than what ships with 12.04?22:40
BlueEaglebob_the_hamster: Also specifying that it should not record activity for the applications in question (ie. the ones you use the most) did not work?22:41
diverdudeHow do i restart the network manager from commandline?22:42
ikoniadiverdude: where not asking this the other day ?22:42
diverdudeikonia, yeah, but i did not figure it out22:43
b14d3diverdude: I remember someone answering. Can't remember for the life of me what it was though22:43
ikoniadiverdude: are you trying to actually restart the application, or the gnome applet in the desktop ?22:43
diverdudeikonia, the gnome applet22:43
ikoniadiverdude: isn't this something to do with you trying to set a static ip (sorry if I'm not remembering this clearly)22:43
ikoniadiverdude: why do you need to restart it22:44
ikoniait's part of the desktop, you'd have to kill the gnome applet and restart it as I understand it22:44
diverdudeikonia, no im not setting up static ip.22:44
diverdudeikonia, its because the applet displays wrong22:44
ikoniawhat do you mean, displays wrong ?22:44
diverdudeikonia, graphical error22:44
ikoniaok, I've lost interest, I'm just asking you to explain the issue and you seem to be doing what you can to not answer clearly22:45
DrGrovikonia: Hi again. I got the nVidia issues fixed in 12.04 thanks to the help of ActionParsnip.22:45
BlueEaglediverdude: Could you elaborate? It would most likely to be prudent to remove the root issue rather than starting to arbitrarily kill and start applets imo.22:45
ikoniaDrGrov: bravo, well done22:45
ikoniaBlueEagle: exactly22:45
bob_the_hamsterBlueEagle: i should clarify that I can clear the Recent Files list by messing with ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel but that the empty recently used still comes up whenever I do file->open in most applications22:46
sideonehey all, i need to join 1 match plus 3 lines below through a text doc. i was thinking of using grep -A 3 -exec something through the file. does anyone know what command can join those 4 lines together in a loop?22:46
DrGrovikonia: It was messy but actual perfectly logical. It was an xorg.conf thing that needed to be done. ActionParsnip did most of the telling and doing actually :)22:46
BlueEagleDrGrov: Since this was something that did require a bit of work you may want to consider writing a documenting article about the issue and the solution so that others may be helped from your experience.22:46
ikoniawell done22:46
ikoniaDrGrov: hopefully you can see why working it through logically is a simple solution rather than just trying random upgrades/software/changes (for future issues)22:47
DrGrovikonia: Is there any good solid way to alter the GPU speed so I get a bit more out of the GPU?22:47
ikoniaDrGrov: in honesty, leave it alone22:47
DrGrovBlueEagle: It require seriously a lot of work before I realized it.22:47
ikoniaDrGrov: the drivers are binary don't interfer with them and how they work22:47
DrGrovikonia: Probably yes but I do want to be able to play 1080p HD videos with bitrates of a high average.22:48
ikoniaDrGrov: if your card is not powerful enough - buy a new one22:48
ikoniaDrGrov: make sure you get one with good linux support22:48
diverdudeBlueEagle, ikonia http://imagebin.org/23884322:48
DrGrovBlueEagle: I wonder though, how much would it benefit for future releases?22:48
DrGrovikonia: I am pretty darn sure my card is powerful enough since it is a nVidia GTS250 1GB PCI-E 16X.22:49
ikoniaDrGrov: right, so again, work through logically why it's having a problem rather than trying random things22:49
ikoniaDrGrov: I've just read the last log, as I understand it, you just needed to generate and xorg.conf22:50
DrGrovikonia: I have worked out it on 10.04 until I decided to upgrade to 12.04/12.10. I was not able to fully stresstest direct rendering.22:50
ikoniathat's not a "lot of work" and complex,22:50
ikoniathat's just making a text file,22:50
ikoniaDrGrov: you just said you had it working on 12.0422:50
MarcoPaudo you guys maybe know how to set the default "apps" shown in the bar on top of google homepage? web, search, images, groups, gmail... thanks22:50
ikoniaDrGrov: what OS are you actually using22:51
BlueEaglebob_the_hamster: Then the next alternative is to remove Zeitgeist I guess. http://linuxaria.com/howto/how-to-remove-zeitgeist-in-ubuntu-and-why?lang=en22:51
DrGrovikonia: No, that is not a lot of work and I had a hunch when I had 12.04 installed the first since it complained about not being able to parse into xorg.conf. But it was mostly the sudo part that confused me on nvidia-settings.22:51
diverdudeBlueEagle, you see the problem22:51
bob_the_hamsterBlueEagle: thanks, I'll read that22:51
DrGrovikonia: 12.04 still as I mentioned. I had my GPU working very well in 10.04 as well but did not find a good stresstest for direct rendering.22:51
diverdudeBlueEagle, so whats the root cause22:51
BlueEaglediverdude: Multitasking.22:51
BlueEaglediverdude: I'll check the screenie now.22:52
ikoniaDrGrov: why do you think your card isn't woring well ?22:52
DrGrovikonia: It is not working well since it has a bit of issues on 1080p HD videos with high bitrates (6000 kbps or over).22:52
BlueEaglediverdude: So the issue is that it is not listing your VPN-connections?22:52
ikoniaDrGrov: ok, so that doesn't mean it's the card, it could be the codec22:52
ikonia(just as an easy example)22:53
BlueEaglediverdude: ...or that it lists them on the left side?22:53
ikoniaDrGrov: don't rush into anything, work it through22:53
DrGrovikonia: Yes, that is what I meant from the beginning. Has nothing to do with the card but more with the software/codec/something similar or both.22:53
diverdudeBlueEagle, its not listing them22:53
ikoniaDrGrov: right, so why are you trying to overlcock the card if you know it's not the card performing bad ?22:53
DrGrovikonia: Yes, I will work it through step-by-step now. It is good that in all of these messy affair I did not restore my backup even, just left it to wait.22:54
DrGrovikonia: Who said anything about overclocking my card? Read what I wrote.22:54
BlueEaglediverdude: To me that is not a graphical error but a bug. Unfortunately I do not know enough of that network manager to be of much help. What I can say is that if it usually lists them, then forgets them until the applet is restarted indicates that the data is lost. Since I am no wizard on VPN either I am even more useless in this quest.22:54
ikonia2:47 < DrGrov> ikonia: Is there any good solid way to alter the GPU speed so I get a bit more out of the GPU?22:54
ikoniaDrGrov: that is "overlcocking" it22:55
EmanonSounds dirty...22:55
ikoniaaltering the speed faster than the default = overclocking22:55
DrGrovikonia: Yes but that is nothing like overclocking. It is what nvidia-settings tells me. It is in Adaptive mode now but could be altered to be in a different more powerful mode.22:55
diverdudeBlueEagle, hence my question, How do i restart network manager :)22:55
ikoniaDrGrov: it's overclocking22:55
DrGrovikonia: Or at least I do not see it like overclocking.22:55
ikoniaDrGrov: if it moves above it's stock capabilities,22:56
DrGrovikonia: Fine, let us call it overclocking then ;-)22:56
BlueEaglediverdude: a killall on the applet and starting it and binding it to a shortcut should do the trick.22:56
DrGrovikonia: But it does not move over its stock capability... It is within the limit.22:56
diverdudeBlueEagle, what is it called=?22:56
DrGrovikonia: Limit what the card can handle.22:56
ikoniaDrGrov: then it will scale on it's own, if the driver supports it22:56
BlueEaglediverdude: ps aux|grep network22:57
BlueEaglediverdude: That should list your candidates nicely I guess.22:57
BlueEaglediverdude: My guess is network-manager-applet22:57
bob_the_hamsterdiverdude: I remember being able to restart NetworkManager with: sudo invoke-rc.d network-manager restart22:57
DrGrovikonia: Yes, that would be great. Is there any good way, except nvidia-settings, to go and monitor the GPU temperature, speed etc.?22:57
c0rtexI have a problem with radeon driver on a laptop with rv516 chipset. I have been able to work with radeon driver properly by starting with nomodeset, stopping lightdm, running modprobe -r radeon, modprode radeon modeset=1, starting lightdm. Is there a way of making this permanent?22:57
c0rtexI have tried putting radeon modeset=1 in my /etc/modules22:58
BlueEaglebob_the_hamster: While that will restart the daemon it will not restart the applet iirc. That may have changed though.22:58
ikoniaDrGrov: nvidia settins is normally pretty reasonable at monitoring the card22:58
ikoniaDrGrov: as it can use the binary drivers to interface22:58
OerHeksDrGrov, you could try to disable sync to vblank in nvidia settings > http://picpaste.com/pics/sync2vblank-nnAancNs.1355180268.png22:58
diverdudebob_the_hamster, that did not help :(22:58
goddardanyone know why vmware doesn't work after updates and how i can get it working again?22:59
DrGrovikonia: Ok, but it does not save to xorg.conf unless I save? I mean it is a bit fussy what it does and does not save apparently from previous experiences.22:59
ikoniaOerHeks: does that have a positive impact /22:59
ikoniaDrGrov: it saves when you tell it to22:59
ikoniaDrGrov: it won't save on it's own , it's a good design22:59
OerHeksikonia, may be if he wants full HD 1080p23:00
DrGrovOerHeks: Ah good. That I will look into right now. I do hope I have it enabled. But damn it, now I remember something. I have put the imagee settings too high perhaps and not so much on performance as needed...23:00
DrGrovikonia: Okay, so it is only that "Save to X..." that saves it? Good. I will jump in and wreck havoc ;-)23:01
ikoniaDrGrov: backup your working xorg.conf first23:01
DrGrovikonia: Ah yes, that is a good idea :) I will just copy it to a new file. sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup.1012201223:02
dr_willisnvidia-settings can save to the 'users' personal settings files. or the system wide xorg.conf file.23:02
darkhalo117'E.Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problemwith MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/23:03
darkhalo117Help?23:03
DrGrovikonia: Or should I copy it somewhere else than my /etc/X11 folder for security precausion?23:04
BlueEagledarkhalo117: What did you do prior to encountering that error?23:04
ikoniaDrGrov: up to you23:04
dr_willisdarkhalo117:  dont a 'sudp apt-get update' recently?23:04
dr_willisdone..23:04
DrGrovikonia: The prefix was right I hope that I wrote.23:04
dr_willisDrGrov:  this is why  theres tab completion. ;)23:05
darkhalo117Yes23:05
DrGrovdr_willis: Ah yes, it went wrong :)23:05
darkhalo117Should I not sudo that?23:05
dr_willisdarkhalo117:  system config type tools nor,mally need sudo. yes23:05
dr_willis'sudo apt-get update'23:06
darkhalo117That's what I did23:06
lcabrezawhats the equivalent of chkconfig rhel on debian (ubuntu) ?23:06
dr_willis /var/lib/apt/lists/ seems to have a file or 3 for every repository on the system.  could be one of them has gotten currupted23:06
DrGrovdr_willis: Got it, I had it first to my home folder :)23:07
darkhalo117Any ideas for a fix?23:07
k1llcabreza: update-rc.d is it for ubuntu23:07
dr_willisdarkhalo117:  rename the directory., and rerun sudo apt-get update   perhaps23:07
dr_willisdarkhalo117:  it seems to be the apt-get listing cache dir.23:08
dr_willisI just renamed mine and its redowenloading the lkiss23:08
dr_willislists23:08
GRMrGeckoBTW: TestDisk did fix my issue, I just need to fix lili.23:08
lcabrezak1l: thanks .i want to remove from startup a specific service ..23:09
dr_willislcabreza:  what service.23:09
dr_willissome are managed by upstart. some use the older sysv method23:10
k1llcabreza: upastart should be the right one then23:10
k1l*upstart23:10
bob_the_hamsterBlueEagle: looks like that zeitgeist removal thing is a no-go. gedit, gnome-session, and nautilus all appears to depend on libzeitgeist. Looks like I am just screwed :(23:11
lcabrezadr_willis: pcscd. i just don't want to it to start every time..i want to be manual ..23:11
k1lbob10: dont remove zeitgeist :/23:11
lcabrezak1l:upastart > whats the difference ?23:11
dr_willislcabreza:  the upstart cookbook has a section on doing that.     http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/23:11
DrGrovOerHeks: What card do you have?23:11
dr_willis!upstart23:11
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/23:11
dr_willis!info pcscd23:12
ubottupcscd (source: pcsc-lite): Middleware to access a smart card using PC/SC (daemon side). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.8.5-1ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 60 kB, installed size 202 kB23:12
bob_the_hamsterk1l: yeah, looks like that would mess a lot of stuff up. But I still can't figure out how to get rid of "Recent Files" as the default in the File-Open dialog :(23:12
lcabrezadr_willis: thanks..i'll go check that out ..23:13
BlueEaglek1l: Well if it is not to be removed, how can one set it to not open recent documents all the time?23:13
k1lBlueEagle: bob_the_hamster well, i heard that question some time ago. but dont remember if that was solved23:15
GRMrGeckocannot use uncommon overlayfs found as root device23:15
GRMrGeckolilo is giving me this output23:15
GRMrGeckoI already have lilo installed23:15
bob_the_hamsterYeah, all my googling has suggested that nobody has solved it (short of changing to kde or xfce or something else like that)23:16
OerHeksDrGrov,  NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430]23:17
BlueEagleGRMrGecko: Wow! You still use lilo?23:18
nemoOh. Cool. Jono apologised!23:18
nemohttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/bkerensa-opensource/~3/HaP7u9GdqUY/on-saying-everyone-who-disagrees-spreads-fud23:18
nemo(yes, I'm behind on the news)23:18
BlueEagle!ot | nemo23:18
ubottunemo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:18
GRMrGeckoBlueEagle: Grub wouldn't install on this ee pc23:18
darkhalo117dr_willis rename it to anything?23:18
nemoBlueEagle: you know, just saying "ot" would have saved one line of spam :-p23:18
darkhalo117@dr_willis rename it to anything?23:18
dr_willisdarkhalo117:  err.. yes..23:18
OerHeksDrGrov, glxgears from mesa-utils is a nice tool to check speed with/without sync to vblank23:19
darkhalo117Lol thnx I don't want to have confictions23:19
dr_willis@ is not for IRC. ;) its for twitter23:19
dr_williswhatever-backup23:19
BlueEaglenemo: Three, actually + the one you follow up with. However not going ot to begin with would have removed all these lines. What's your point?23:19
GRMrGeckoBlueEagle: Do you wish walking me through replacing lilo with grub?23:19
dr_willisdarkhalo117:  i just renamed it. remade the directory. and reran sudo apt-get update   it recreated the files23:19
BlueEagleGRMrGecko: Not on an ee. Sorry. ;)23:19
nemoBlueEagle: *shrug23:19
GRMrGeckoBlueEagle: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-942081.html23:20
OerHeksDrGrov, with ( 298 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.528 FPS ) without sync ( 33740 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6747.861 FPS )23:20
GRMrGeckoBlueEagle: maybe they fixed it by now23:21
GRMrGeckolet's try23:21
DrGrovOerHeks: Okay, I will download mesa-utils now to see.23:22
DrGrovOerHeks: Thanks.23:22
BlueEagleGRMrGecko: Best of luck to you.23:22
NordomSo when I started up my desktop pc at home this morning I had an interesting exprience. I have it on a delayed boot so I can turn it on an get ready for work while everything loads, anyways when I typed in my password to unlock everything after my boot. My screen became distorted pixelated with text moving around the screen. At the buttom I could see the users on my computer, Guest, Sonka, ME and23:23
Nordomand the sonka is not a registered user23:23
Nordomdoes anyone know anything about this? I seems more like a hacking attempt due to added user in my usergroups... but it could have just been one of the virus that made to piss people off or what not.... no idea what this is google didn't reviel anything and it definately didnt feel like a crash because I havent sceene a crash like this since regular nintendo23:25
ikoniaNordom: sounds like a graphics corruption, nothing more23:25
ikoniaNordom: I'd look at that user in the accounts list, but beyond that, nothing suspcious23:26
darkhalo117Thank you dr_willis. You are the man23:26
Nordomikonia: I hope so, just strange that middle of the bottom screen would have the only ledgeable text on the screen, with Guest, Sonka, and my home user name everything else was garbled23:26
dr_willisdarkhalo117:  seems 3weird one of those files got messed up. perhaps currupted  during a download or fsck23:26
ikoniaNordom: not really23:26
Nordomikonia: maybe just the graphics as you say, I did look in the user groups found nothing, but did find a bunch of strange files in my trash that I dont remember putting there23:27
ikoniasuch as ?23:27
Nordombunch of stuff I may have deleted in the past, but now I thinking about it stuff in my ubuntu one sync... could have been dumped when I reset the computer when the files were syncing23:28
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parisphone over gmail is not working.23:29
Nordomikonia: well thank you for your help, I will look into it a little more when I get back on that pc, but thank you for at least reassuring me23:29
DrGrovIs it just in 12.10 there is in System Settings the option for Online Accounts? I do not see it in 12.04.23:29
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stevopowellI run Ubuntu 12.04.1. Has anybody else upgraded to 12.10? How does it compare?23:31
dr_willisstevopowell:  lots of people have upgraded.23:31
ikoniastevopowell: there are pleanty of reviews on online23:32
dr_willisif you want/need the newer features. upgrade. :) if not.. dont.23:32
dr_willis13.04 will be here in a few months.  The Joys of Ubuntus 6 Mo release policy23:33
SocialEvilguys any idea how to add to my panel the volume icon, without the mail icon ?23:33
trismSocialEvil: if you don't want the mail icon, just uninstall indicator-messages23:34
SocialEviltrism, it worked :) thanks23:35
DrGrovApparently I do not have direct rendering enabled. Seems like glxgears gets stuck and it needs to be sigtermed.23:37
Gyro54Hi!23:37
GRMrGeckoOk… Grub is installed, however it doesn't seem to be configured with my drives23:38
GRMrGeckohow can I configure it?23:38
GRMrGeckoit just prompts me with a grub command interface23:38
Gyro54i am trying to map a shared drive from a win2003 server to U12.04 but have a mount error: could not resolve address for server?23:38
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GRMrGeckomaybe I need grub223:39
DrGrovAny easy way to test direct rendering? Just a 3d enabled game would suffice?23:40
SomelauwWhen opening system-config-printer, I can't find the option "Printer via sambda"? So how do I install a sambda printer?23:41
ring0DrGrov,  glxinfo | grep -i render23:42
DrGrovring0: Yes, it is "Direct rendering: Yes" :) I thought first what happened since glxgears crashed the whole terminal and everything almost.23:43
nemoDrGrov: we get that so often with users (windows and linux) that we've started logging glGetString(GL_RENDERER/VENDOR/VERSION) in our game :)23:44
nemoDrGrov: in windows, bad sign is using the MS vid driver (software rendering)23:44
nemoin linux, there are unfortunately drivers for major vid cards that still do software rendering, so the typical fix is jockey-gtk and installing the nvidia or ati blob23:44
dr_willisSomelauw:  I got a "Windows Printer Via Samba" here.  Or you could try the cups web interface.  http://localhost:63123:44
nemobut. since you have direct rendering...23:45
nemounless the driver is faking it :)23:45
DrGrovnemo: Okay :) Nah, it is rendering really well on the desktop as well and extremetuxracer also worked brillantly ;-)23:45
Somelauwdr_willis: How to install samba through localhost:631, because I again don't see the window printer via samba option?23:45
nemoDrGrov: http://free3d.org/23:46
dr_willisSomelauw:  sudo apt-get install samba  perhaps.. my networkprinter dosent use samba any mopre. :) but i do install the various samba services  for other reasons23:46
nemoDrGrov: other thing we sometimes get is cards getting pushed over the edge by desktop compositing (use of Aero in Windows, or Gnome3/Unity in linux)23:46
dr_willisSomelauw:  this is a windows box shareing a printer?23:46
GRMrGeckogot grub2 installed:D23:47
GRMrGeckoand it works23:47
GRMrGeckoBlueEagle: Just so you are aware it worked this time.23:47
GRMrGeckorecovered the ubuntu partition23:47
GRMrGeckoupgraded to grub23:47
BlueEagleGRMrGecko: Very good. :)23:47
GRMrGeckonow to see if I can install SP1 on windows 723:47
dr_willisGRMrGecko:  from Lilo to Grub2  thats like going from  a Gocart to a ... fancy big car.. ;)23:47
GRMrGeckolol23:48
Somelauwdr_willis: It should already be installed: i   samba23:48
Somelauwi means installed23:48
nemoDrGrov: hm. they recommend the HD 4670 - nifty. that's the card I have at work. last time I tried radeon driver on it it failed horribly. I guess the situation has changed23:48
dr_willisSomelauw:  double check i guess.. see if findsmb, and smbtree commands see the server/printer/shares23:48
Somelauwdr_willis: It is a network printer.23:48
dr_willisSomelauw:  shared by a windows box? or stnd alone?23:49
dr_willisSomelauw:  my networked brother printer 'serves' its printing via several differnt methods.. samba is only oneof them. it23:49
SomelauwI don't know.23:49
dr_willisa shared by windows printer - might ONLY be served via samba. a Stand alone. may have other methids.  I recall ust entering the ip# in cups configs someplace and it scaned the printer and showed all the ways it was shareing the printer23:50
Somelauwdr_willis: There is also http option, but I am not sure if I should manually put http in front of the adress they gave me. The adress they gave me starts with SRV1264.domain.net/.../.printer23:51
Somelauwthen it is standalone23:51
Somelauwor even http:// ?23:52
dr_willis my personal experience is only with Home Lan printers. You are on some sort of business/school network?23:52
Somelauwdr_willis: yes23:52
SomelauwI'm on a school/business network23:52
MK`Hey, for some reason after upgrading I can no longer right click on things in my taskbar, any idea what that could be?23:53
Somelauwor https:// ?23:53
GRMrGeckohey look, SP1 is installing:D23:54
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dr_willisMK`:  you are refering to the gnome-classic/fallback mode bars at the top?23:55
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micromI am getting lots of "Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/natty-getdeb" why?23:56
MK`dr_willis: Yeah, with Applications and Places. I used to be able to right click on there to mount/dismount/eject drives and such23:56
GRMrGeckoSo… I had to crash my system in-order to get SP1 to install, then fix and install grub:P23:56
dr_willisMK`:  the gnome fallback thing dosent have all the features of the old gnome-2, I dont use the fallback mode. so i dont know what all is gone. Theres replacement indicator-applets that give  back some of those functions.23:57
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MK`I see, alright.23:57

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