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dholbachgood morning06:26
justCarakasGood morning all06:43
thunderamurHi! Sory for my english. Hope you can understand me. I want to create simple app with Ubuntu SDK. App must parse the output of console programs and show some of the data in the tray, with animation icons and tooltips on mouseover.  Where i can get tutorial how to add icon in systray with Ubuntu SDK?06:59
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AskUbuntuHow to package QML Extension Library + Tabbed Touch UI? | http://askubuntu.com/q/44533607:37
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dpmmorning zbenjamin, I'm trying to build Reminders using a 14.04 click chroot and I'm having some issues. I've got 2 click targets defined, both for trusty: one using the 13.10 framework and one using the 14.04 framework. So the first question is, when doing a build, does QtC just pick the one defined first in the click target dialog? The second question is: I've installed libssl-dev on both click chroots, yet while building on the chroot the build fa07:47
dpmils because it cannot find one of the ssl headers. Any ideas what could be going on there?07:47
zbenjamindpm: no it does not pick it you have to assign it to the project07:47
zbenjamindpm: there should be 2 ubuntu sdk kits for you07:47
* kalikiana looks at nik90 and wonders if he still wants to review https://code.launchpad.net/~kalikiana/u1db-qt/indexRoles/+merge/21177107:47
dpmzbenjamin, how do I assign it? And why did it pick by default when choosing "Build in chroot" /tmp/build-reminders-app-Desktop-Default/ubuntu-sdk-14.04-armhf ?07:49
zbenjamindpm: aaa you are using the old version, i though you are using the version from the ppa07:49
justCarakashow can you use the framework for 14.04 ?07:49
dpmzbenjamin, I was, until this morning an archive update overwrote that :)07:50
zbenjamindpm: right click -> build on chroot picks the framework from the manifest07:50
dpmah, ok07:50
dpmzbenjamin, let me install from the PPA packages again first07:50
dpmzbenjamin, I've reinstalled the PPA packages, but I don't see any difference from the QtC version I was running a few minutes ago. How do I tell if I've got the newest version, and if so, how do I assign a kit to the project?07:54
zbenjamindpm: dpkg -l | grep qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu07:55
dpmzbenjamin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7225191/07:56
rpadovanidpm, o/ Have I to open a new bug for the QtCreator issue about reminders-app?07:56
rpadovaniDo we can solve it with a rename of the desktop file or there is something else to do?07:56
dpmrpadovani, yes please, could you file a bug?07:57
rpadovanidpm: yes, sure07:57
dpmthanks!07:57
rpadovanidpm bug 130487908:01
ubot2Launchpad bug 1304879 in Ubuntu Reminders app "Fail to run build from trunk on desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130487908:01
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zbenjamindpm: you restarted QtC right?08:04
dpmzbenjamin, yes (I've just done it again now, just in case)08:05
dpmthanks rpadovani08:05
zbenjamindpm: then don't use build in chroot anymore08:05
zbenjamindpm: you should now be able to assign Kits to your project08:05
zbenjamindpm: on the Projects tab there is a add kit button in the top left corner08:05
dpmzbenjamin, ah, ok. Yeah, I saw that: if I go to Projects, switch kits, I've only got a 13.10 kit08:06
dpmok, let me add one08:06
zbenjamindpm: usually you select them on project creation, but if you load a existing project you have to manually assign them08:07
dpmdone, added the 14.04 kit, let me try to build now08:07
dpmack08:07
zbenjaminok you need to switch to the Kit in the bottom left corner right over the green arrow08:07
zbenjamindpm: ^08:08
dpmyeah, that got switched to by default when I clicked on it on the Projects page08:08
dpmzbenjamin, it seems I'm still having the same issue: the build cannot find the headers from the libssl-dev package I installed in my chroot: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225237/08:10
zbenjamindpm: weird08:10
zbenjamindpm: you sure the right kit is selected?08:11
zbenjamindpm: just to be sure switch to the desktop kit and then to the 14.0408:11
dpmzbenjamin, it seems to switch allright:  Build files have been written to: /tmp/build-reminders-app-UbuntuSDK_for_armhf_GCC_ubuntu_sdk_14_04_trusty-Default08:12
zbenjamindpm: hmm what you could do is echo the framework it sets in the qtc_chroot_cmake2 scipt08:12
zbenjamindpm: should be in /usr/share/qtcreator/ubuntu/scripts08:13
zbenjamindpm: echo $CLICK_SDK_FRAMEWORK08:13
zbenjamindpm: you should see it when right clicking on the project and use run cmake08:14
dpmok08:14
zbenjamindpm: in general messages output i think08:14
dpmtrying now08:14
dpmzbenjamin, it seems to output the right one: ubuntu-sdk-14.0408:15
zbenjamindpm: ok "click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-14.04 run"  then go to your project dir and try manually08:16
dpmzbenjamin, shall I just do a local cmake run? I.e. 'cmake . && make'?08:25
zbenjamindpm: yeah in the chroot command prompt08:25
zbenjamindpm: but please create a builddir08:25
zbenjamindpm: mkdir build && cd build && cmake .. && make08:25
dpmhm, too late08:26
zbenjamindpm: then you just messed up your QtC project ;)08:26
dpmargh08:26
zbenjamindpm: a in source cmake build prevents all out of source builds08:27
zbenjamindpm: that is a cmake restriction08:28
dpmok, I'm back to a clean dir08:28
dpmzbenjamin, ok, that failed to find the header too :/ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225295/08:31
zbenjamindpm: how did you install the libssl-dev package?08:32
zbenjamindpm: in maintenance or run mode?08:32
zbenjamindpm: because if you did in click chroot run the packages are removed after you log out08:32
zbenjamindpm: click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-14.04 maint apt-get install libssl-dev08:33
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Cherish An Antique Day! :-D08:37
dpmzbenjamin, sorry I was otp. It seems the header still cannot be found, and I know why now - it seems the x86 version of the package is installed (see the note at the end of the paste): http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225370/09:02
zbenjamindpm: arghs yeah you have to install libssl-dev:armhg09:02
zbenjaminarmhf09:02
dpmaha09:02
zbenjamindpm: always add :armhf if you install libs for development09:03
dpmzbenjamin, so I should do click "chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-14.04 maint apt-get install libssl-dev:armhf", right? How do I do it from within Qt Creator? If I click the Maintain button in the click targets, the package will remain installed across project reopenings, right?09:05
zbenjamindpm: exactly09:06
zbenjamindpm: but if you use the maintain button you can just do : apt-get install no need for the click part the09:06
zbenjaminn09:06
dpmyes09:06
dpmthanks a lot zbenjamin, the project is now happily building :) - one last thing we need to fix is the build. So we've got this bug now, which is essentially what we discussed with sergiusens yesterday. As a short term fix, would you recommend us to just rename the .desktop file? bug 130487909:11
ubot2Launchpad bug 1304879 in Ubuntu Reminders app "Fail to run build from trunk on desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130487909:12
zbenjamindpm: yeah that would fix it for now, but we need to find a better way to do this09:13
dpmok09:13
zbenjamindpm: btw you will have to set -DCLICK_MODE manually from now on, the templates don't use it anymore and i think setting it in the chroot cmake scipts was just not the way to go09:14
dpmzbenjamin, ok, that was a trick, that wasn't my last question :) So now I've built reminders, how do I create the click in the new QtC? Will the Publish tab do the right thing and use the output from the right kit?09:15
zbenjamindpm: create package on the publish tab09:15
zbenjamindpm: it will use the currently selected kit09:15
zbenjamindpm: or you attach your device and click the run button and it should magically show up on your device, its not installed atm09:16
dpmzbenjamin, excellent. Now, on reminders we've got a click/manifest.json.in file that gets generated with cmake. I guess QtC will simply ignore that and create its own?09:17
dpmand if so, how can we make our .json.in file to play nice with QtC?09:18
zbenjamindpm: you can't make the json.in file play nice with QtC except you rename it to manifest.json and put it in the root folder09:18
zbenjaminof your project09:18
zbenjaminalso the apparmor file09:18
dpmok09:19
zbenjamindpm: i think cmake does not care how a in file is named right?09:19
zbenjamindpm: so you can still do the variable replacement but use manifest.json as input and output file name09:20
dpmzbenjamin, no, cmake does not care, .in is just a convention for input files that are used as intermediate means to generate the final file after substitution09:20
zbenjamindpm: as long as it is a valid json file QtC should not care09:20
dpmah, but that'd mess revision control09:20
zbenjamindpm: no bzr mv09:21
zbenjamindpm: should take the rev info with it09:21
dpmyeah, but that's not what I mean09:21
zbenjaminthen i did not get it right ;)09:21
dpmI mean every time the click package is created, the manifest.json file would be overwritten09:21
dpmand bzr would show it as changed09:22
zbenjaminwhy is that? the output file is created in the builddir09:22
zbenjaminor at least it should be09:22
dpmoh, I see...09:22
nik90dpm: I created a google document where I listed the current SDK blockers affecting app showdown developers. You can find it at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kzLBDMWx5iS67pNiDasfxg4bMlTHET-j50hoUQZjYfc/edit09:22
nik90dpm: (in response to your email yesterday)09:23
dpmzbenjamin, I was thinking of it being generated locally, but yes, you're right. My case would only apply for in-tree builds, with are a very bad thing to do, I've just learnt :)09:23
zbenjamindpm: i'm actually planning to use the manifest file to create the runconfigs, each hook in the manifest file will result in a runconfig but for that i need it always in the root dir09:23
dpmnik90, oh wow, nice work!09:23
zbenjamindpm: that means we need to migrate the core apps away from manifest.in09:24
dpmzbenjamin, ok. So if I want to fix this today in reminders, other than moving manifest to the root of the source tree, would you recommend me to hardcode the values, or to use cmake variables?09:24
nik90dpm: so if there are other judges who happen to notice a common issue, they can fill it in so that we can take that into consideration during the review process.09:24
dpmnice!09:25
dpmnik90, I'll put a link to the doc in the judging sheet09:26
nik90dpm: ok09:26
zbenjamindpm: you can use the variables as long as the hooks are all in the manifest file. Best would be of course if the desktop file names in there as well but i think i can work around this by reading the manifest file in the builddir again09:27
dpmnik90, although, an issue might be that the Chinese judges cannot access it due to Google blocking09:27
nik90dpm: ooh...I didn't think about that. Is there a common place where we all can access it?09:27
zbenjamindpm: just check if QtC overrides you any variables maybe then we can see if we can fix that. but it should not09:27
nik90dpm: email doesn't really work since it makes it harder to dig up older email conversations.09:28
dpmnik90, yeah, we can use pad.ubuntu.com perhaps09:28
zbenjamindpm: and rename the desktop file for now until we have a better solution09:28
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dpmzbenjamin, ack. To make sure I get it right, what do you mean by "as long as the hooks are all in the manifest file"?09:28
nik90dpm: good idea. I will transfer it to pad.ubuntu.com and then send you the invite link via email.09:29
dpmnik90, great, thanks!09:29
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zbenjamindpm: afaik every child-object in the hook object represents a desktop file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225456/09:31
zbenjamindpm: so i'm going to create a runconfig for every property in the hooks that contains a object with a desktop: property (thats the plan at least)09:32
dpmzbenjamin, right, so I guess if I leave the variables as they are, it should still work? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225454/09:32
zbenjamindpm: the @APP_NAME@ would be a problem09:33
zbenjamindpm: because thats how your runconfig is called then09:33
zbenjamindpm: and i would search in the output manifest file for a property called @APP_NAME@ that does not exist09:34
zbenjaminbut the others are ok09:34
zbenjamindpm: btw is there a documentation about the manifest file structure?09:35
dpmzbenjamin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/ApplicationConfinement/Manifest09:36
zbenjamindpm: thx09:39
dpmzbenjamin, now that I've moved manifest.json to the root of the source tree, why does QtC not read it and tries to overwrite it every time? That does not work for core apps, as e.g. the maintainer is a team, and every time QtC sets the author to an individual developer10:05
nik90zsombi: What is the status of https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/alarm-date-fix/+merge/210181 and https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/alarm-fetch-fix/+merge/208749 ?10:18
nik90zsombi: can we expect them to be approved and merged by this week?10:18
nik90before freeze10:18
zsombinik90: there're some comments on it which I need to address...10:18
zsombinik90: not entirelly sure... it all depends how fast can we land stuff also...10:19
nik90zsombi: ok. Because once they land on device, I will have to also test and make sure the alarms is good to go for this cycle.10:19
nik90zsombi: it is high priority that a working alarms implementation doesn't get postponed to the next cycle. And popey wants the final 14.04 image to have a working alarms implementation.10:20
zsombinik90: you should test it before it lands, right? there will be some changes in the fetch-fix, we just found a bug there10:20
zsombinik90: popey: sorry, we got other high priority stuff as well to finish in april :/10:21
nik90zsombi: well I did already test the MP. But once it is on the phone, I will have to make sure everything is still good and ready for production.10:21
zsombinik90: you shoudl re-test it again once I'll add the fixes to it... I was working on it this morning, but had to switch to other task doe to its priority10:22
nik90zsombi: just ping me when you want me to test.10:23
zsombiyeps, you'll get pinged :)10:23
dpmdholbach, how do I install the click reviewer tools? And do you know how to make them work in Qt Creator? I see under Tools > Options > Ubuntu > Click packaging reviewer a text entry where I should probably point to the tool's dir or the executable, but I'm not sure how it's supposed to work. Do you happen to know?10:38
dpmnm, I think I've figured it out10:41
dpmsudo apt-get install click-reviewers-tools10:41
dpmalthough I still don't understand how to get QtC integration going10:43
dholbachdpm, zbenjamin should be ablle to explain10:46
dpmnp10:54
zbenjamindpm: if you click create package in the publish tab just wait there for the package to be finished and it should show you the validation output10:58
dpmzbenjamin, it shows me a "Click reviewer tools" progress bar and that's it10:58
zbenjamindpm: on the publish tab it shows you a list of items on the right side10:59
zbenjamindpm: thats the graphical representation of the review tools output10:59
dpmzbenjamin, yeah, small popups on the bottom right side, but I cannot see any textual output11:00
dpmrunning the click review tools on the command line gives me a failure, but QtC doesn't tell me anything11:00
zbenjamindpm: if you look on the pusblish tab on the right side there is a button that says validate click package right?11:02
dpmzbenjamin, no, just 3 buttons: Reload - Reset to defaults - Create package11:02
zbenjaminaaa  you did not have the review tools installed?11:02
zbenjaminrestart QtC after you installed it11:03
zbenjamindpm: ^11:03
zbenjamindpm: its not picked up automatically11:03
dpmaha11:03
dpmzbenjamin, ah, now it works, thanks! I'm not sure if you saw the question earlier: "now that I've moved manifest.json to the root of the source tree, why does QtC not read it and tries to overwrite it every time? That does not work for core apps, as e.g. the maintainer is a team, and every time QtC sets the author to an individual developer"11:05
zbenjamindpm: does it overwrite everything?11:06
zbenjamindpm: or just some vars11:06
dpmzbenjamin, everything, although I've noticed that if I copy and paste the original file in the Manifest tab inside Publish, then it remembers it11:07
zbenjamindpm: wut? strange11:07
zbenjamindpm: and when you close and reopen QtC?11:07
dpmstill remembers it11:08
zbenjamindpm: technically it should never overwrite a existing manifest.json11:08
zbenjamindpm: would be nice if we could reproduce that problem+11:09
dpmzbenjamin, steps to reproduce: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225741/11:14
zbenjamindpm: ok thanks i will look into that problem as the first fiy11:14
zbenjaminfix11:14
zbenjamindpm: quick check: did you move the apparmor file to the root path as well?11:17
zbenjamindpm: because if that does not exist it would reset all values11:18
dpmzbenjamin, yeah, its next to manifest.json11:18
zbenjaminhow is it called?11:18
zbenjamini think QtC wants some special name, that should change maybe11:18
zbenjamindpm: ok i think i can fix that problem, i'm going to read the apparmor file from the manifest.json11:21
dpmok11:22
dpmzbenjamin, it seems I'm slowly getting there with reminders, but I've still got a final issue: when I hit the run button, it fails on the deploy step - it says "Could not connect to host: Private key file error: No such file or directory", although the device is connected, I can adb into it and QtC seems to detect it too. Any ideas?11:24
mihirrenato, ping11:24
zbenjamindpm: can you paste the device log from the devices page?11:25
dpmsure11:25
dakermhall119: hi, how can i test the email client ?11:25
zbenjamindpm: note every device has its own log tab now11:25
dpmok, cool. zbenjamin, here's what I get: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225784/11:26
zbenjamindpm: ok thats the main log, every device has its own11:27
zbenjaminshould be inside the devices tab11:27
zbenjamindpm: right under the Simple and Advanced tab11:27
dpmzbenjamin, ah, got it now. Here it is: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225790/11:29
zbenjamindpm: weird that looks good11:29
zbenjamindpm: try ssh phablet@127.0.0.1 -p 1000011:29
zbenjamindpm: sorry ssh phablet@127.0.0.1 -p 1000111:30
zbenjamindpm: meh the log is wrong it should be 10000 ;)11:30
zbenjamindpm: aaa there was a problem with openssh not being started11:31
zbenjamindpm: adb shell setprop persist.service.ssh true11:31
zbenjamindpm: adb shell start ssh11:31
dpm_zbenjamin, sorry, got disconnected, not sure if you got my reply - ok, it asked me to accept the device, to which I said yes, and then it connected11:35
zbenjamindpm_: so you can ssh into the device?11:35
dpm_yep11:36
zbenjamindpm_: but it still does not work from qtc?11:36
dpm_I'll try now again11:36
dpm_zbenjamin, no joy, when I press the green button I get: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225814/11:37
zbenjamindpm_: if its not working try to remove the device from Tools->Options->Devices and then redetect11:37
dpm_ok11:37
zbenjamindpm_: if that still not helps we need to check if the private key listed in ~/.config/QtProject/qtcreator/devices.xml is existing in you .ssh folder11:38
dpm_hm, now it does not detect any devices11:38
zbenjamindpm_: if you hit the redetect button in the Ubuntu devices tab?11:39
dpm_zbenjamin, ok, after restarting QtC and redetecting, it saw my device. Do I need to re-add it under Options again?11:39
zbenjamindpm_: should be there already11:40
dpm_ah, yeah, I can see it, will try to hit Ctrl+R again11:40
zbenjamindpm_: so?11:42
dpm_zbenjamin, ok, it seems that worked, but I'm not sure it launched the app, as it's failing to start (that's a reminders bug, not QtC). So essentially, what that does is to copy the result of the build and runs it unconfined?11:43
zbenjamindpm_: yes until we have debugging support in the launcher11:43
dpm_in the same way it did with qmlprojects?11:43
zbenjamindpm_: or some other way11:43
zbenjaminyes11:43
dpm_zbenjamin, what about installing click packages? Is that on the roadmap, or is there a way already to do that from QtC?11:44
zbenjamindpm_: the ultimate goal is to install a click package and run it confined. But we need to get debugging into that somehow11:44
dpm_ok, cool. Thanks for your help zbenjamin!11:44
dpm_lunch time11:44
zbenjamindpm_: np, thx for the feedback11:44
dpm_mzanetti, rpadovani, I'm not sure I'll be around for the reminders meeting today. Would you mind if we move it to tomorrow or Friday some time in the morning?11:45
mhall119daker: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mhall119/trojita/11:54
dakerok11:55
dakermhall119: on the desktop ?11:55
dakergot it running on the desktop12:00
renatomihir, pong12:22
mihirrenato, if i want to get an event by event.ParentId can I get it like this ?12:23
mihirevent = model.fetchItems(event.parentId)12:23
renatomihir, let me check12:23
renatobut I think this should works12:23
renatoare you having problems with that?12:24
mihirrenato, i am not able to test it, so just asked , we have to use it for deleting entire event , if it is recurrent event.12:25
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renatomihir, this is a bit more complicated than that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7225979/12:29
renatothe function will return a fetchId and you will need to check for that on onItemsFetched model signal12:30
renatomihir, and the arg is a list not only one id12:30
renatosomething like  model.fetchItems([event.parentId])12:31
justCarakasaaaargh, I'm getting stress, still 3 more hours at work and my app for the showdown isn't finished yet :p12:35
mihirrenato, ohhkie ,12:39
mihirrenato, so i need to check implement onItemsFetched12:39
mzanettidpm_: I'm in london for a sprint. so yeah, would skip it too today12:41
dpm_ok!12:41
dpm_have fun at the sprint :)12:42
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mhall119daker: dholbach has it in a PPA12:58
dholbachdaker, mhall119: are we talking about trojita?12:58
mhall119yeah12:59
dholbachhttps://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily12:59
dakerdholbach: yes, i extracted the click package, got it running on the desktop12:59
dholbach^ it's available here12:59
dakerok thanks13:00
popeybeuno: JamesTait are you able to delete an app from the store pls? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/424/ (it's mine)13:02
popeybeuno: JamesTait also delete this one.. https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/99/ ?13:02
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popey(I see no way in the web UI to do it myself)13:03
JamesTaitpopey, I don't have access to do that, but I think beuno does.13:03
beunopopey, I can delete them, have they ever been published?13:35
popeybeuno: no13:41
dpm_rpadovani, mzanetti, when you've got a minute, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/qtc-changes/+merge/214951 and13:58
dpm_https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/fix-1303763/+merge/21495213:58
dpm_elopio, that last MP ^ should fix your issue with reminders not launching, if you too have got a minute for a quick review14:03
mzanettidpm_: left a comment. did you try that?14:05
dpm_mzanetti, good point, I was too focused on getting the click to work14:06
zbenjaminls14:06
dpm_mzanetti, AP seems to run allright. Well the one test we have :)14:08
mzanetti:D14:09
mzanettidpm. ok. approving then14:09
mzanettidpm_: approved this one. the other is a bit more to read. is it urgent?14:09
dpm_mzanetti, it is simply because this one depends on the other. But if you're busy with the sprint, no worries, I can try to find another reviewer14:10
dpm_I just had to modify a couple of things to make the app runnable and buildable from QtC14:11
elopiodpm_: :D /me tries.14:11
dpm_nice, thanks :)14:11
nadrimajstorI'we had some issues and I identified the problem: It is me.14:21
nadrimajstorCan someone suggest a course that focus on QML/QtQuick way of doing things_14:22
dpm_popey, fginther, I'll be a minute, I need to reboot14:29
fgintherpopey, did we agree to meet now?14:31
popeyfginther: i have nothing in my calendar14:31
popeydpm: ^14:31
fgintherdpm, popey, I have another hangout scheduled for now, but I can chat in about 30 minutes14:32
popeywe both have one in 30 mins14:32
dpmpopey, fginther, of course, I was adding the event while doing other things and I invited myself only!14:33
* dpm facepalms14:33
JoshStrobl_popey: When did you drop such a magnificent beard? :D14:33
dpmfginther, popey, would in 1h30 work for you? Otherwise we can leave it for tomorrow14:34
JoshStrobl_*grow14:34
JoshStrobl_not sure why I substituted the word for drop14:34
JoshStrobl_haven't had coffee yet...sigh14:34
JoshStrobl_popey: The only hangout shown on https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=dno3ip0msg552dei3e3r7m8jl0%40group.calendar.google.com (from #ubuntu-on-air) is the engineering live. Is there another hangout or is it some internal one?14:35
popeyJoshStrobl_: haha, thanks ☻14:36
popeyJoshStrobl_: pass14:36
popeydpm: fginther i can do 2 hours time, not 1.514:37
rpadovanidpm, just arrived at home, so it's good also for me to postpone to tomorrow reminder hangout14:38
dpmpopey, will move to tomorrow, as I'll be away in 2h14:38
dpmrpadovani, ok, great14:38
popeyok14:38
elopiodpm: I've just provisioned reminders from your branch with click buddy and it still fails to open.14:43
dpmelopio, what does the upstart log say?14:44
elopiodpm: Unable to exec 'reminders' in '/opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/com.ubuntu.reminders': No such file or directory14:44
dpmelopio, which branch of the two did you pull?14:44
elopiodpm: https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/fix-1303763/+merge/21495214:45
elopioI didn't know there were two.14:45
dpmelopio, that's the right one you pulled14:45
elopiodpm: this time, the file is there, so that's one step forward.14:46
dpmelopio, what's the log file name you looked at? was it for the 0.5 version of reminders?14:46
elopiodpm: yes. .cache/upstart/application-click-com.ubuntu.reminders_reminders_0.5.log14:47
dpmelopio, ok, let me quickly add some logging14:47
dpmelopio, would you mind trying lp:~dpm/reminders-app/fix-1303763-debug and showing me the debug log?14:52
elopiodpm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7226581/14:58
elopiois that the right log file? It doesn't show anything new14:58
dpmelopio, there is something fishy going on here. That does not look right. See the last commit of the branch, it should be adding debug calls14:59
dpmah wait14:59
dpmit doesn't even get to there14:59
dpmelopio, that works for me on a click package created with Qt Creator and then manually installed with pkcon. Perhaps something click-buddy is doing?15:00
elopiodpm: you move the click with adb push and then pkcon -i ?15:01
elopioI can try that.15:01
dpmelopio, yes, adb push and then pkcon install-local15:02
dpmbut the other thing I did was that I didn't create the package with click-buddy, but with Qt Creator. I can put my package somewhere online for you to try, and perhaps compare it with the one from click-buddy?15:03
elopiosame error. I'll try creating it with qtcreator.15:03
beunopopey, deleted15:06
dpmelopio, here's my .click. Just created it fresh, will install it now to try anew -> http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/click/com.ubuntu.reminders_0.5_armhf.click15:07
elopiodpm: that one works15:09
dpmelopio, are there any differences between the click packages themselves?15:11
elopiodpm: yes. Is there a way to extract the contents of the .click?15:13
dpmelopio, I generally change the extension to .deb and open it with file-roller ;)15:13
dpmthere must be a more elegant way to do this, but that works for me :)15:13
elopiogood enough15:14
elopiodpm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7226662/15:19
elopioI'm probably using click-buddy wrong, because it's generating the bin in x86_64-linux-gnu15:19
elopioah, I see  click-buddy --arch armhf --provision15:20
elopioso, I found a bug just by luck. I was provisioning wrong.15:20
popeybeuno: thanks15:22
dpmelopio, ah, good that you figured it out15:23
elopiodpm: now the test that I was going to do was to open online accounts on the phone, but it doesn't work. Can you try it?15:25
elopiodpm: I mean, open reminders without account, and touch the button.15:25
dpmelopio, it works for me after having removed my account on the phone. I.e. I then started reminders, saw the view with the button to open accounts, clicked on it, and then it pops up the system settings app with the online accounts view15:31
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dpmelopio, so that seems to work on the phone, but it won't work on the desktop I think15:36
* dpm tries15:36
dpmno, that doesn't work on the desktop15:39
dpmgvfs-open: settings:///system/online-accounts: s'ha produït un error en obrir la ubicació: No se sap gestionar la ubicació especificada15:39
dpmwhich translates to "error while opening location. Can't manage specified location"15:39
elopiodpm: it didn't work for me on the phone.15:40
elopio:/15:41
elopioI might need to reflash15:41
dpmelopio, I'm using image 28115:45
dpmelopio, do you have any ideas why Jenkins failed on https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/fix-1303763/+merge/214952 ?15:47
dakerdholbach: what channel should i flash ?16:03
dholbachpopey, dpm: ^ do you have an answer for daker?16:07
popeydaker: what device and for what purpose?16:07
dpmdholbach, daker, I'm missing some context. What channel to flash for what?16:07
dakerfor the showdown16:07
dpmI'd say the stable channel - 'trusty'. What do you think, popey?16:08
popeyah for judging?16:08
dakeryes16:08
popeyi would use the trusty-proposed tbh16:09
dakerok16:10
labsinAnyone can tell if TilEm in the Click Store is working?16:13
popeylabsin: installing...16:16
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popeylabsin: http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2014-04-09-171848.png16:19
labsinpopey, Yay16:21
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elopiodpm: dh_install: usr/manifest.json exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere16:46
elopiodh_install: usr/apparmor.json exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere16:46
elopiodh_install: missing files, aborting16:46
dpmah, I'll need to fix debian packaging as well... thanks for spotting that out16:47
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labsinAnywone knows how I can use the CLICK_MODE build without the qtcreator chroot? I would like to test the click package on my desktop18:50
nikwenUpload to the click store does not work for me any more:18:53
nikwen{"traceback": "Traceback (most recent call last):\n  File \"/srv/pkgme-service.canonical.com/production/pkgme-service/sourcecode/../src/djpkgme/tasks.py\", line 536, in run\n    logger=self.get_logger())\n  File \"/srv/pkgme-service.canonical.com/production/pkgme-service/sourcecode/../src/djpkgme/client.py\", line 66, in submit_to_myapps\n    raise CallbackError(url, 'PUT', response.status, content)\nCallbackError: PUT to https://18:53
nikwenmyapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/api/click-scan-complete/189/ got response 500:\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN\"\n    \"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd\">\n<html xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml\" xml:lang=\"en\" lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">\n    <head>\n        <title>Oops!</title>\n        <link rel=\"shortcut icon\" href=\"/assets/light/images/favicon.ico\" type=\"image/x-18:53
nikwenicon\" />\n        <link rel=\"stylesheet\" type=\"text/css\" href=\"/assets/light/css/reset.css\"/>\n        <link rel=\"stylesheet\" type=\"text/css\" href=\"/assets/light/css/styles.css\"/>\n        \n        <link rel=\"stylesheet\" type=\"text/css\" href=\"/assets/light/css/forms.css\"/>\n    </head>\n    <body>\n        <div id=\"container\">\n            <div id=\"container-inner\">\n                <div id=\"header\">\n18:53
nikwen              \n                    <h1 id=\"ubuntu-header\"><a href=\"http://www.ubuntu.com/\">Ubuntu</a></h1>\n                    \n                    \n                    <ul id=\"main-menu\">\n                        <li><a href=\"http://www.ubuntu.com/\">Home</a></li>\n                        <li><a href=\"http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu\">Ubuntu</a></li>\n                        <li><a href=\"http://www.ubuntu.com/business\"18:53
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nikwencom/partners\">Partners</a></li>\n                        <li><a href=\"http://shop.canonical.com/\">Shop</a></li>\n                    </ul>\n                    \n                </div>\n                <div id=\"menu-search\">\n                    \n                    <div id=\"search-box\">\n                        <form id=\"sitesearch\" action=\"http://www.ubuntu.com/search/node\" method=\"post\">\n18:53
nikwen<input type=\"text\" maxlength=\"128\" name=\"search_theme_form\" id=\"search-box-input\"\n                                 value=\"Type to search\" title=\"Enter the terms you wish to search for.\"\n                                 onblur=\"if(this.value==&#039;&#039;){this.value=&#039;Type to search&#039;;}\"\n                                 onfocus=\"if(this.value==&#039;Type to search&#039;){this.value=&#039;&#039;}\"\n18:53
nikwen                 />\n                          <button type=\"submit\" name=\"op\" id=\"search-box-button\"><span>go</span></button>\n                          <input type=\"hidden\" name=\"form_build_id\" id=\"form-967ff0ccc1a2f6f6d92f3e8c0822866d\" value=\"form-967ff0ccc1a2f6f6d92f3e8c0822866d\" />\n                          <input type=\"hidden\" name=\"form_token\" id=\"a-unique-id\" value=\"656a58b3b2c4f37a2af1d6b188a4a595\" />\18:53
nikwenn                          <input type=\"hidden\" name=\"form_id\" id=\"edit-search-theme-form\" value=\"search_theme_form\" />\n                        </form>\n                    </div>\n                    \n                </div>\n                <div id=\"title\">\n                    <h1></h1>\n                </div>\n\n                <div id=\"content\" class=\"clearfix content-area\">\n\n<h1>Server Error</h1>\n\n<p>An18:53
nikwenerror occurred which prevented the page you requested from loading. If this problem continues, please consider reporting this problem by sending an e-mail to <a href=\"mailto:webmaster@canonical.com\">webmaster@canonical.com</a></p>\n<p id=\"oops_id\">OOPS-e8860c8c6ca84229b48b63bac067663c</p>\n\n<pre style=\"overflow:auto\">\n\t\n</pre>\n\n                </div>\n\n            </div>\n            <div id=\"footer\" class=\"clearfix\"18:54
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nikwenSorry for the long paste. :/18:54
popeyugh18:57
popeynikwen: do you get an error message?18:57
nikwenYes, the one I posted and something like "Update failed". Already tried resubmitting.18:58
popeyi am not going to try and pick the error out of all that html18:59
popeycan you extract the error message?18:59
nikwenI'll do, wait a moment.18:59
rpadovaninikwen, next time use !paste ;-)18:59
rpadovanipaste.ubuntu.com18:59
nikwenYes, I'll do. Sorry for that. Didn't notice the message was that long.19:00
nikwenNeed to update the app version, again.19:01
nikwenpopey: Ok, submitted a new click package. Here's the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7227652/19:06
popeythat looks bad. beuno or JamesTait ^^19:07
nikwenYes, it does. :(19:07
zonovromanHello everybody!19:09
nikwenOh, and before that the page was not available for some time.19:09
popeyhello zonovroman19:09
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beunopopey, ouch19:16
beunolooking19:17
popeythanks19:17
nikwenbeuno: Thanks. :)19:17
alaakHi. Is there currently some problem with the Ubuntu Touch App submission process? I constantly get a Server Error on resubmitting my App.19:18
nikwenalaak: Yes, me, too.19:18
nikwenbeuno is looking into it.19:18
alaakok. so maybe later. thanks for the information.19:19
nikwenalaak: No problem. ;)19:19
beunoyes, apologies19:20
popeybeuno: today is the last day of the app showdown, hence the increased number of submissions19:20
beunoright19:20
pmcgowanpopey, hows it looking, lots of apps?19:24
nikwenpmcgowan: Hope so.19:25
dakerhi popey19:33
dakerwhile flashing the Recovery menu popup, what option should i select ?19:34
dakerah ok it works now19:34
beunopopey, nikwen, it's going to take a while to figure out what the problem is19:37
beunocan we push the deadline to tomorrow so people don't panic?19:38
popeyugh19:38
nikwenWould be great as it's quite late here.19:38
popeyjono_: ^^19:38
beunonikwen, what's your app called?19:39
nikwenIt's called "Cantata".19:40
nikwenI've submitted version 0.1.2 some hours ago but every more recent version failed.19:41
nikwenPackage: com.ubuntu.developer.nikwen.cantata-touch19:41
jono_beuno, popey sure19:42
beunosorry about this19:43
popeyjono_: can you announce and I'll help spread?19:43
nikwenDoes that mean it will definitely be later?19:46
james_wnikwen: I'm pretty sure it will work if you have time to retry a couple of times19:47
james_wnikwen: I believe the problem is intermittent19:47
james_wI understand if you don't have time to do that though19:47
nikwenjames_w: Why do you think so?19:47
james_wwe have a fix in progress hopefully19:47
james_wnikwen: because our current belief is that the problem is a race condition19:48
nikwenHow many times do you think will I have to submit it? Already tried three times...19:48
james_wmanifesting due to the increased number of uploads as we approach the deadlne19:48
james_wnikwen: I have no idea sorry19:48
james_wnikwen: probably not worth trying again then19:48
nikwenHm, I'll try it again though. Can't hurt...19:49
zonovromanpopey, jono_, beuno, one question: I have 3 apps, in then I fill a form, I have a choice about t-shirt. Is it only for winners or for contesters? I want to present one to my girlfriend;)19:49
nikwenbeuno: And after the update it tells me "You are required to upload the current version of your application." When I click on the link, I get another error though.19:54
nikwenServer error: OOPS-629e2646938d4aa098344d93eb5d557119:54
beunojames_w, ^19:54
popeyzonovroman: i think it's one per person19:55
zonovromanpopey, it's a pity(19:55
james_wnikwen: ok, that's the same error19:55
james_wnikwen: we'll work on getting the fix out ASAP19:55
popeyzonovroman: get your girlfriend to submit an app ☻19:55
nikwenjames_w: Ok, thanks.19:55
nikwenjames_w: Is the fix ready yet?19:56
james_wnikwen: nope19:56
nikwenjames_w: Because you mentioned "the" fix...19:56
james_wright19:56
james_wwe're pretty sure we know what the fix is19:57
james_wsomeone is working on the branch right now19:57
nikwenOk, great. :)19:57
zonovromanHm...really good idea! Thanks, popey.19:57
jono_popey,20:02
jono_sure, one sec20:03
jono_popey, done20:04
popeyjono_: nice one, thanks20:04
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dakerpopey: how can i change the DNS ?20:09
dakeron the phone20:09
popeydaker: never tried...20:10
popeyi control dns on my router20:10
popeydish it out via dhcp to all clients20:10
nikwenjono_: What time will it exactly end at? 23:59 UTC again?20:11
popeynikwen: yes, an extra day20:12
nikwenpopey: Thanks. :)20:12
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james_wanyone know who owns ubupocket?20:31
justcarakas_and what time is it now20:33
james_w20:34 UTC20:34
justcarakas_hmmm stresssss still finishing up20:34
pmcgowanjustcarakas_, popey deadline extended one day yes?20:36
justcarakas_pmcgowan ? what do we also have tomorrow ?20:40
justcarakas_do we get an extra 24 hours ?20:40
nikwenjustcarakcas_: https://plus.google.com/114419073019603780828/posts/8tcvNJpUejh20:40
pmcgowanjustcarakas_, good news and bad news ;)20:41
nikwenpmcgowan: Exactly20:41
popeypmcgowan: yes20:41
labsinyay20:42
pmcgowanpopey, should that be in the topic? or will no one see it there anyway20:42
popeynobody reads the topic20:42
pmcgowanya20:42
gerlowskijaWhat does the 'avengers' tag mean on a launchpad bug?20:44
popeygerlowskija: nothing really, just that they were reported by a bunch of specific people20:44
nikwenWill it be worth waiting for the fix for the sake of calming down or will it still take > 30 minutes? (I undestand that it takes time and am not trying to rush you. ;))20:45
beunonikwen, we know what the problem is now, we have a fix20:45
beunobut I think it will take more than 30 minutes to do due diligence, QA the patch and deploy20:45
nikwenHm, good and bad. Hoped to get it done today. Anyway, thanks for your help, I'll publish it tomorrow.20:47
nikwenBye. :)20:47
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labsinstill anyone in for some testing? (A Poker game, but with a shamelessly copied desktop UI)20:50
justcarakas_im benifiting from these delays, I had to lay in bed for a week because I had a concusion, tought I wouldn't get a lot of features in the app that I wanted in, but now it seems that I'll get a bunch more things in it :D20:51
beunoyou're welcome!20:52
beuno:)20:52
justcarakas_how many original html5 apps are already submitted or is that a secret20:59
popeyjustcarakas_: we don't reveal that until after the showdown finishes20:59
popeyI can say it's non-zero though ☻21:00
justcarakas_popey, haha okey, I knew it wasn't zero because I'm one of them :p21:00
popeyhah21:01
justcarakas_my girlfriend isn't too happy with the delay, an extra evening that she loses me to my pc :p21:01
popeyShe has time to learn javascript and beat you at the showdown then ☻21:02
justcarakas_would be nice if I could learn her popey, but I already have her little brother as aprentice :p21:04
justcarakas_*teach21:04
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justcarakasanybody here checked out BE Mobile ? working on enableling English now :p21:05
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nik90popey: I found out that the ubuntu-system-settings got installed on my trusty automatically. If I try removing it, it seems to also remove account-plugin-ubuntuone ubuntu-system-settings ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts unity-scope-click21:37
justcarakaswhat do I need to select for the framework to upload ?21:39
justcarakasif I select 14.04 does that mean it cant run on 13.10 ?21:40
popeynik90: ubuntu-system-settings is fine21:43
popeynik90: there's another one for the phone, which is different i think...21:44
justcarakaspopey do you also know the answer to my question ?21:44
popeyjustcarakas: yes21:46
popeyjustcarakas: you can be 99% sure nobody is using 13.1021:46
popeycertainly all the judges in the showdown will be using 14.0421:46
justcarakasokey, so I select 14.04 html dev than ?21:47
justcarakaspopey, and is the html5 theme 0.1 the most recent ? or is there a newer one ? if so where can I find it (sorry for all the questions)21:49
popeyjustcarakas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Click/Frameworks21:50
popey21:50
justcarakaspopey, when I create my click package I get this error:" Json Parse Error: illegal value " did I do something wrong there ?22:07
popeypossibly, yes. check your manifest.json22:07
justcarakaspopey: my manifest.json is created by the sdk :s22:09
justcarakaspopey: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7228348/22:09
popeyalso check your appname.json file22:12
justcarakas{     "policy_groups": [         "networking"     ],     "policy_version": 1.1 } looks normal to me22:15
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james_wanyone around who has been having trouble uploading their app to the store?23:01
james_wthe problem some were having earlier with submitting apps to the store should now be fixed23:07
james_wif you are seeing problems  then let us know23:08
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popeyjames_w: thanks23:39

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