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syadnomkuba7447, I have wayland and weston running on a raspberry pi.  it's significantly faster (though buggy) than X on that hardware00:00
EriC^^lost: oh ok, yeah you can convert it, if it's a fresh install you can just fresh install, would be easier00:00
syadnomkuba7447, i think ubuntu took the wind out of waylands sails with mir00:00
kuba7447why cant ubuntu play ball with other distros?00:00
EriC^^lost: by the way, the graphics issues aren't related to uefi or legacy00:00
reisiokuba7447: ?00:01
lostEriC^^: oh?00:01
reisiowayland will be done when it's done00:01
EriC^^lost: nope, uefi is just about the booting00:01
kuba7447ubuntu will be using mir?, right?00:01
reisiokuba7447: I doubt it00:01
chilenoalgun reculiao me entiende?00:01
reisiokuba7447: Ubuntu tends to cave on things that Debian upstream doesn't support00:01
lostEriC^^: yeah well thats why i thought it was that because of the timing of the problems00:01
reisiothey don't have the developers to do otherwise00:01
lostEriC^^: so what are you thinking it is?00:02
EriC^^you could try the proprietary drivers if you want00:02
kuba7447so, will ubuntu be using wayland in the future?00:02
OerHekskuba7447, no00:02
kuba7447what will it be using then?00:03
syadnomi fully expect u16.04 to have mir00:03
reisiokuba7447: most likely wayland, yes00:03
syadnomit's critical to their mobile platform.00:03
psusireisio, no, canonical is developing mir instead of wayland00:03
kuba7447but wayland is better?00:03
syadnommir works in 15.04 already, though it's not totally stable.00:03
EriC^^yeah wayland is supposedly not suitable for all applications00:03
reisiopsusi: weren't they developing upstart instead of something, too? :p00:03
OerHekskuba7447, there is no wayland on ubuntu , so useless to compare.00:04
reisiowhat canonical plans to do and what will probably happen are different, I think00:04
lostEriC^^: proprietary for my graphics card?00:04
EriC^^lost: yeah00:04
kuba7447will other distros use mir?00:04
psusikuba7447, not likely00:05
syadnomkuba7447, I think that entirely depends on if ubuntu pulls it off00:05
reisiokuba7447: nope00:05
OerHeksyes, all of them, windows too :-D00:05
reisioI doubt Ubuntu even will very long00:05
lostEriC^^: ill try it let you know how it goes thanx00:05
OerHeksask them, you know00:05
chilenoalgun rexucha su madre?00:05
EriC^^lost: ok, no problem00:05
reisiochileno: :)00:05
d4rklit3hi00:05
kostkonreisio, mir is already on the phones00:05
chilenohay algun maricon culiao?00:05
hossapport question: I work on an OSS project (lucene) that, as part of our automated tests, kills processors to then verify data integretiy - when devs use ubuntu, this causes apport to ask about sending in a bug report (for java) ... is there any sort of ENV variable we can set on these processes to tell apport "don't freak out if this proc dies horribly" ?00:05
syadnommir and unity8 are pretty slick on u15.0400:05
reisiokostkon: far out man00:05
psusiin all likelylood ubuntu will use mir for a few releases, then cave to wayland... it's upstart vs systemd all over again00:05
chilenoreisio: hola00:05
reisiochileno: shalom00:05
hosss/processors/processes/00:05
syadnomit's pretty usable, though not entirely stable.00:06
chilenoreisio: eres chileno?00:06
d4rklit3some1 has put a startup script somewhere on my ubuntu server, I can't find what is calling this00:06
kuba7447but if the most popular distro be using mir and the rest be using wayland, what will happened ?00:06
le_piglol sudecos00:06
reisiohoss: think there's probably a dev channel, let's see...00:06
syadnomd4rklit3, look in /etc/rc.local00:06
d4rklit3what are some likely places to run bash scripts at startup on ubuntu, except rc.local00:06
d4rklit3heh00:06
d4rklit3its not rc.local00:06
psusionly at least when ubuntu first switched to upstart, systemd didn't exist yet00:06
reisiohoss: #ubuntu-app-devel maybe00:06
EriC^^d4rklit3: as root?00:06
reisiod4rklit3: to do what?00:06
d4rklit3yes00:06
d4rklit3it runs a process as root00:06
syadnomupstart was kinda crappy, i think they realized this a while back00:06
d4rklit3i need to find where00:06
d4rklit3so i can stop it00:06
psusipersonally I'm looking forward to using wayland and gnome-shell as soon as it is usable00:07
d4rklit3im having a hard time figuring out where upstart commands are stored00:07
kuba7447same00:07
hossreisio: yeah, sorry ... i should have clarified that first ... wasn't sure if it would be considered off topic for #ubuntu-app-devel since i'm not asking specifically about developing ubuntu (pacakged) apps00:07
OerHeksI want Mir, systemD and snappy00:07
psusiupstart was leaps and bounds ahead of sysvinit... and overall pretty good... the real problem was that the one developer who wrote it left canonical for google and nobody was really working on it for quite some time00:07
kuba7447they should be more standardisation between distros00:07
EriC^^d4rklit3: what process?00:07
syadnomI'm not sure that wayland or mir need to be exclusive :/00:07
d4rklit3something called forever00:08
psusithen systemd had some new ideas that might be better and was being actively maintained and supported, so the switch was obvious00:08
d4rklit3its ran by node00:08
syadnomthey are both pretty modular so there could be a mir later on wayland and vice versa, and both can run an X layer so :/00:08
reisiohoss: doesn't bother me, I just doubt this is the most efficient place to ask00:08
d4rklit3it may be upstart, but i don't know where upstart commands are stored00:08
reisioall the X/wayland devs pretty much think Mir is a joke00:08
reisioand I don't really blame them00:08
EriC^^d4rklit3: /etc/init.d00:08
reisiobut hey you can make any software you want00:09
psusisyadnom, they are exclusive in that apps talk to one or the other... you could use one as a slave to the other as a compatibility layer, but why bother when you can just patch the app to use the one that is really in charge00:09
reisiothat's a great thing00:09
syadnomreisio, and the canonical guys think wayland is a joke too lol00:09
reisiowell X is a joke00:09
syadnompsusi, time to market, that's why00:09
reisiojust not compared to mir :p00:09
kuba7447x is a mess00:09
EriC^^d4rklit3: sorry, /etc/init00:09
reisiokuba7447: hence wayland00:09
syadnomX is an entire operating system lol00:09
d4rklit3o i see00:09
kuba7447yep00:09
d4rklit3everything in /etc/init00:09
d4rklit3runs00:09
kuba7447i dont see why mir is being developed , canonical should be contributing to wayland instead of doing mir00:10
reisiokuba7447: yup00:10
syadnomfrom canonicals point of view, wayland is totally innapropriate for mobile because it fundamentally lacks features mobile needs...or so they say00:10
reisiobut again, people can waste time on what they like :)00:10
reisionobody will be forcing anyone to use wayland or mir either one00:10
syadnomkuba7447, canonical did a lot of work on wayland and found it to be lacking (thier opinion)00:11
reisiowork?00:11
reisioresearch you mean?00:11
reisiolast I saw the wayland devs decided canonical had no idea about anything related to X :)00:11
syadnomreisio, no, they did have dev libraries for wayland.00:12
kuba7447but, will the user notice the difference wayland and mir, will it be a massive difference?00:12
syadnomI played with them, they sucked00:12
kuba7447*between00:12
reisiosyadnom: :D00:12
reisiokuba7447: I don't think they would, unless either is buggy enough to crash00:12
syadnomhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/314495/why-did-canonical-choose-mir-over-wayland-as-the-display-server00:12
reisiowhich I assume mir will be, but don't care as I won't ever use it :)00:12
ni9arinohow can i upload screen shots pls00:13
reisioni9arino: http://imgur.com/00:13
syadnomI'm not of the opinion that mir or wayland is better, I'm just parroting canonicals statements00:13
d4rklit3is this correct?  scripts in /etc/init run on init?00:13
EriC^^d4rklit3: yeah, those are upstart files00:13
kuba7447if mir fail, i will have to switch distro00:13
syadnomI've run both in testing and they both already beat X on responsivness00:13
reisiokuba7447: you won't have to, but you might want to00:13
EriC^^d4rklit3: there's /etc/init.d too00:14
reisioif mir fails, as in the past when canonical projects failed, they'll probably just go back to using what debian uses00:14
kuba7447unless, canonical put their act together and use wayland00:14
syadnomwell, if mir isn't default in 15.10, then I don't believe it will hit 16.04...00:14
psusid4rklit3, /etc/init contains .conf files that tell upstart about what jobs to run at boot time... it has been replaced with systemd in 15.0400:14
OerHeksSo if wayland fails, they all come to Mir :-D00:14
OerHeksyou are funny guys00:15
d4rklit3man this guy just left these scripts laying around00:15
reisiowayland won't fail, it's already well on its way00:15
kuba7447i doubt that wayland will fail00:15
reisioall the X guys are with wayland00:15
reisioit's basically just the next version of X.org00:15
reisiowith all the improvements they've wanted for ages00:16
kuba7447wayland = "every frame perfect"00:16
* reisio shrugs00:16
reisioI'm okay with X, but if the X guys want to make _their lives_ easier by fixing it up more, that's fine by me00:17
kuba7447x.org was quite impressive in the 90s00:17
syadnomI'm not a fan of X at all.  I feel lag there except in 'raw' X and then it's not pretty.  add a compositor and it feel 'behind'.00:18
Johnny_Linuxi left my X in texas00:18
syadnommir is supposedly suopposed to be easier to port between graphics stacks than wayland (again, according to canonical)00:18
kuba7447but why will other distros use mir?00:19
syadnom:/ probably not unless canonical is wildly successful with it00:19
syadnomand redhat specifically will probably not touch it on principal00:19
OerHeksI wonder what those ubuntu-forks will do.00:20
kuba7447its look like x.org will be in use for a long time...00:20
syadnombut really, who is the linux desktop?  ubuntu based (in turn debian based, but be honest, it's ubuntu based), fedora based.....what else?00:20
kuba7447arch?00:20
syadnomkuba7447, arch will probably do both00:21
syadnomgentoo probably both00:21
kuba7447yep, arch is all about choice00:21
syadnombut those aren't 'big' really...they have a significant following but are really left in the dust by ubuntu and fedora for user base.00:21
kuba7447yep, ubuntu have a big influence on linux industry00:22
psusikuba7447, what makes you say that?00:24
kuba7447its the most used linux distro00:25
psusiI mean about xorg00:25
reisiocan already easily use either on Gentoo00:25
Johnny_LinuxX is broke and needs re-written , wayland will save the day00:26
kuba7447ubuntu dont really care about other distros, thats why theyre developing mir00:26
syadnomkuba7447, ubuntu definietely doesn't give a crap about other distros lol00:26
Johnny_Linuxwhy should they00:26
Johnny_Linuxif a was in business, id do what they are doing00:27
kuba7447what will be the most popular linux distro in the future? openSUSE, fedora?00:28
syadnomubuntu and fedora00:28
kuba7447i feel like canonical is killing ubuntu by developing mir00:29
OerHeksOnly developing nothing kills ubuntu.00:30
reisioprobably still be Debian00:30
syadnomkuba7447, i don't agree.  They can back off that if it flops, but if it succeeds and you can run an ubuntu phone and desktop on the same device...that might be a really winner00:30
Johnny_Linuxthey are building a phone/pc, its gonna be killer. what difference does all that make, youll buy one im sure.00:30
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reisioone can always hope one of the superior GNU/Linux alternatives wins out, though :)00:30
kuba7447but what about other distros00:30
reisiothe body of free userland software is the important part, really00:31
xyzzy__Nothing will kill Ubuntu. It's only growing in popularity. If anything, Canonical will adapt.00:31
syadnomid love to have a non-android open mobile OS00:31
kuba7447ubuntu feels more like a product rather than project, dont know if thats good or bad00:32
syadnomdont hurt me......I prefer windows phone to android for usability and performance..00:32
OerHeksnon-android & non-java, ubuntu-phone \o/00:32
syadnombut can't live with the crap ecosystem00:32
xyzzy__I'm getting that impression too, kuba744700:33
daleI lose Firefox/Thundrbird window arrows when I install gtk3 theme, two tries Gray-libra and Numix-grey00:33
daleubuntu 15.04 on the themes00:33
Johnny_Linuxits prolly the theme itself, try another00:33
xyzzy__great product though. xfce really takes that corporate feel out of the UI however00:33
daleokay, I'll try a couple more00:34
kuba7447i dont like xfce, too many things00:34
mach20xOk so I upgraded to 15.04...no sound, so I followed some guides online that were supposed to help and messed stuff up I'm sure because my volume option missing next to the date in the top bar..00:35
syadnomxfce feels 'cheap' :/00:35
syadnomoh, and "90's" lol00:36
kuba7447syadnom, thats exactly what i feel00:36
reisiothat's how I use Xfce, but you can make it look like anything00:36
reisiojust like any other wm/DE00:36
xyzzy__I like the simplicity. Don't know what you mean by too many things. In comparison to Unity, it's heaven.00:36
reisiocompositing is rarely useful00:37
reisio3d too00:37
reisioeven though it does compositing00:37
daleRadiance-monochrome works, thanks, I wanted a neutral theme00:37
Johnny_Linuxcool00:37
reisiomy trouble is that I know it's not a real 3d environment :p00:37
syadnomthe fluff in most de annoys me.  KDE and the rediculous blue glow around everything, gag00:37
kuba7447why is there a menu button on xfce if u can right click?00:39
reisiothat used to annoy me00:40
reisionow what annoys me is that you can't trust them to stick with one design goal00:40
reisioeach version all the ideas are abandoned00:40
chilenosomebody know alsa00:40
reisiothat's no way to run a project00:40
xyzzy__extra functionality? lol00:40
reisiokuba7447: why not00:40
syadnomreisio, you're talking about KDE?00:40
reisioXfce is big on not pointlessly abandoning things people use already00:40
reisiosyadnom: and GNOME00:40
xyzzy__^00:40
reisiokde 3 -> 4, gnome 2 -> 300:40
reisiotake your pick00:40
kuba7447xfce dosent feel right00:41
reisioif I had used either of those, I would've felt utterly betrayed00:41
syadnomreisio, to be fair, people screemed over their aggresive changes to the environments so they had to adjust...00:41
reisiokuba7447: so don't use it :)00:41
reisiosyadnom: yeah, Microsoft does that, too00:41
kuba7447too many options, therefore not simple00:41
reisiojust enough to shut them up :p00:41
reisiokuba7447: heh00:41
syadnomreisio, yeah, win8 anyone lol00:41
xyzzy__comes down to personal taste which is fair enough. As long as we're using the distro, it doesn't matter what DE you're using00:41
reisiokuba7447: try a wm alone, then00:41
kuba7447light weight but not simple00:41
reisioxyzzy__: but it matters you're using this distro? :)00:41
syadnomkuba7447, try MATE00:41
kuba7447i did tried mate, its good00:42
xyzzy__reisio: well.. yeah :)00:42
kuba7447its gnome 2 based if im not wrong....00:42
xyzzy__it matter that anybody is using any distro tbh00:42
xyzzy__matters*00:43
syadnomI try to keep everything vanilla, I work on so many computers a highly customized one is a hinderance.  so KDE is super annoying because I have to tweak to much to tollerate it00:43
reisiokuba7447: yup00:43
syadnomMATE is Gnome2 renamed00:43
reisioyeah, better to use something vanilla that doesn't constantly betray its users00:43
reisiothan fight upstream 24/700:43
xyzzy__so many forks!00:43
reisioso few mashed potatoes00:44
xyzzy__^00:44
kuba7447yes00:44
kuba7447forks , thats one problem with linux00:44
reisionope00:44
reisiosure isn't00:44
syadnomnot forks, derivitives00:44
reisiopeople who think every fork matters, that's a problem00:45
reisioignorance, that's a problem :)00:45
reisioforks in general, wonderful00:45
reisiodon't like something, fork it, it's beautiful00:45
xyzzy__I dunno. I think forks are important. People doing their own thing in their own way. Forks are there in name only... the base is still the same.00:45
reisioas long as you are forking for yourself and not some kind of hero worship, everyone'll be happy00:45
B0g4r7I stick with gnome2 myself.  Toss in Docky and it's good to go.00:45
xyzzy__What reisio said.00:45
kuba7447as long as the fork is actualy better, then its ok00:46
reisiobetter is subjective00:46
reisioas long as you aren't inflicting something I've not expressed an interest in in my face, it's all good00:46
reisioyou can say that about most anything00:46
B0g4r7Fohshizzle.  Spam comes to mind, among other things.00:47
reisionot real food00:47
syadnomforking in the OSS world seems to be what's needed.  A community will run it's course, get stagnant, and if the software is any good it will get forked and that will carry on the legacy.00:48
xyzzy__haha.... completely unrelated.... terminal emulator of choice? I like Terminator.00:48
xyzzy__but open to other suggestions00:48
syadnomxyzzy__, depends on the distro...00:48
xyzzy__xubuntu is what I'm running as my main atm syadnom00:49
xyzzy__totally agree syadnom00:49
Johnny_Linuxi have all 7 on one machine, 1 os00:49
kuba7447open source....00:49
syadnomi dont run xubuntu myself so I don't know what i'd prefer there00:49
reisioxyzzy__: what DE you use?00:49
reisiooh GNOME/Unity00:49
reisioI'd just use gnome-terminal00:49
syadnomvanilla ubuntu right now (and a win8 laptop)00:49
reisiofor Xfce, xfce4-terminal is fine00:49
reisioI had occasion to try evilvte the other day00:50
reisiopretty featureful yet light vte term00:50
xyzzy__haven't tried that one.... will look into it00:50
syadnombut I'm considering kubuntu and taking plasma5 for a spin00:50
syadnomgnome terminal is what I usually use though00:50
kuba7447is it hard to make a DE ?00:51
xyzzy__Not if you have the know how but that's way out of my league. I'm certainly not a dev00:52
syadnomkuba7447, that's pretty subjective.  if you mean glue a bunch of stuff together around an existing toolkit then not terrible hard...00:52
reisioI think it's a pretty straightforward process these days00:52
reisiosince there are _so many_ examples00:52
reisioand the vast majority implement all the same fundamental base features00:52
gagaliciousmount.nfs4: mounting 10.49.1.1:/srv/nfs4 failed, reason given by server: No such file or directory... i know all i have to do is...  "mount -t nfs4 10.49.1.1:/ tmp" which will work coz my fsid=0 is in the export file on server... so how do i do the previous kind of mount where i can specify a specific directory for different mounts? coz i would like to have different export mount points.00:53
reisioparticularly on Unix systems, where you're just making frontends00:53
kuba7447i always wanted to make a DE that will be better than every other DE00:53
reisiokuba7447: do eet00:53
syadnomfor example, cinnemon is gnome3 with a lot of defaults set to make it look/work like gnome200:53
syadnomit's not really a unique de in that regard00:53
kuba7447i will call it flow, it will be the best desktop environment ever00:54
xyzzy__do it kuba744700:54
reisiokuba7447: noyce00:54
kuba7447i will do, just wait few years...00:55
reisiowill do00:56
HackerIIthe only thing you will do is, sit in your cubical and do as your told.00:56
kuba7447wut?00:56
gagalicioushttp://pastebin.com/yQY4q19r  <-- help... nfs question00:57
Ryeinhow can i connect to Ubuntu remotely?01:02
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Ryeinshould i use xrdp or something else?01:02
gagaliciousok i solved it.. .the problem with nfs4 is ... first top level fsid=0... the rest sub directories have to be within the top directory... now my question to nfs4 is... how do i protect which directory is accessible from which client? since fsid=0 and then the subdirectories have to be within the root fsid=0 folder01:04
c0nfusekihello... I am having trouble updating my ubuntu. Apparently from a google search, I have too many kernel images. I tried to follow the instructions, but I needed to 'aptitude'; but i have to apt-get to get aptitude onto my box... which i cannot because of the kernel problem (apprently). my error I get when I try to update is: "no space left on device" "E: mkinitramfs failure cpio 141 gzip 1". any help would be much appreciated.01:05
esr_I like Peach OSI01:06
PazoozaDelete all but the last 2 kernel versions in /boot, C0n01:06
OerHeksc0nfuseki, no need for aptitude, there is a script that removes all unwanted kernels, and leaves current and last one ..01:08
OerHeksc0nfuseki, http://askubuntu.com/questions/401581/bash-one-liner-to-delete-only-old-kernels01:09
c0nfusekithanks. i'll follow that01:10
PazoozaAll you need is gnome-commander in root mode.01:10
c0nfusekiok. thanks too Pazooza. if that link doesn't help me, i'll ask you for more info.01:11
OerHeksdpkg -l linux-* | awk '/^ii/{ print $2}' | grep -v -e `uname -r | cut -f1,2 -d"-"` | grep -e [0-9] | grep -E "(image|headers)" | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge01:12
losthello ubuntu world01:16
kuba7447hello01:18
EmanuelAnyone here on Optimum Online and use their smart router but have their ubuntu system hand DHCP and DNS?01:20
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zumba_addictgood evening folks. I checked if mysql is installed and this is what I got - http://pastebin.com/D8G3EU8S01:20
kuba7447i use my smart phone as a router , android tethering01:21
zumba_addictam I right that when i install mysql-server, it should affect the installed php?01:21
zumba_addictoops01:21
zumba_addictam I right that when i install mysql-server, it should NOT affect the installed php?01:21
Emanuelkuba7447, that would work for me if I kept my smart phome home all the time ;-)01:22
erik_haakon01:26
erik_Hello?01:27
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reisiolost: hah, this show is great, he hates everything just like me :p01:27
erik_Hello!01:29
zumba_ad_just like to confirm folks, please let me know01:30
user__hello01:33
ajm6677riveting.01:41
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deadsoulhi... why Ctrl+alt+F[1..12] doesn't show any tty ? except the F7 which brings me back to the X window.. I'm using kubuntu 15.0401:45
HallateMcan somebody point me to a walkthrough how to install pptpd on Ubuntu 14.04 ?01:48
HallateMi've been googling around but can't find anything that is for 14.0401:49
HallateMthe 12.* guides don't work01:49
aeon-ltd!pptpd01:49
aeon-ltdheh worth a shot01:49
HallateMthanks for trying anyway :)01:49
deadsoulhello01:53
soixantehello guys. what does it mean "is to be installed" when using apt-get ?????  i mean, it has the dependency listed for the package, but then it says a different version is to be installed. i dont get it???!01:56
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zorlachello all01:58
zorlacHey im rather new to irc how to i view my friend list?01:59
xboxhello01:59
xboxhello01:59
VoyageI need a very EASY tool that can open a video file and cut/crop but gray/scramble area/watermake on password fiels or user name etc type of things in the video02:02
Voyageany app?02:02
zorlacnope no idea02:03
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deadsoulhow can i exit the x server ?02:06
deadsoulhow can i exit the x server ?02:06
kinduffI'm trying to set my BCM4331 wifi card into Monitor Mode, should I use B43 driver for this?02:07
gagaliciouswhat's the lightest x environment for linux?02:07
Guest40538Q02:08
zhenghello02:09
zheng有懂中文的?02:10
linuxuz3rtry ubuntu-cn02:11
linuxuz3rtry #ubuntu-cn02:11
Baltazar... Hello!02:12
zumba_ad_guys how can I cd to /var/lib/mysql/02:12
zumba_ad_i;m getting permssion denied02:12
zumba_ad_when i sudo cd /var/lib/mysql/, command not found02:12
Baltazarsudo02:12
tewardzumba_ad_: you don't as a standard user02:12
zumba_ad_^02:12
Baltazaropen a root terminal02:13
tewardzumba_ad_: sudo to a superuser prompt though, and maybe you can.02:13
tewardzumba_ad_: but you really shouldn't mess with that folder unless you know what you're doing02:13
zumba_ad_ok02:13
Baltazarthen go there02:13
deadsoulzumba_ad_: sudo su, or su... enter the password... then cd /var/lib02:13
zumba_ad_i just want to see the logs :)02:13
zumba_ad_ok02:13
zumba_ad_trying it now02:13
zumba_ad_sweet, it worked :D02:13
deadsoulguys I'm trying to enter the tty1...6 but when I press ctrl+alt+f2...6 it just shows a black blank screen without letting me entering anything.. i'm using kubuntu 15.0402:14
BaltazarHey buntus... I have 2 annoyances I want to fix... my clock, it insist on 24v hour no matter what I do to set it to am pm time... and my first day of the week is on monday when it should be sunday!!!02:15
OerHeksTTY2 for text & TTY7 for gui again02:15
deadsoulOerHeks: tty2 doesn't work02:15
deadsoulOerHeks: it just shows a blank black screen02:16
OerHeksctrl alt f2 should bring you to a login02:16
deadsoulOerHeks: exactly ... but it doesn't02:17
deadsoulit's a fresh installation02:17
feyhi all02:18
powersurgeon ubuntu gnome 15.04 on an xps 13 in chrome if I two finger scroll it ends with a right click02:18
powersurgeany tips on how to debug this?02:18
deadsoulanyone knows why ?02:18
deadsoulor how to fix this ?02:18
powersurgemmm, looks like two finger tap to click is happening in every app although I have tap to click turned off02:19
Baltazar... have you tested the mouse with other system ...02:19
powersurgeit's a touchpad02:20
powersurgeand it only happens after the system has been on for ~20 minutes02:20
powersurgevery curious.02:20
powersurgealso, if I open up the test settings pane of the gnome mouse & trackpad settings02:20
powersurgeit doesn't register the two finger tap (as expected)02:20
Baltazar... fisical problem...02:20
powersurgeso I'm not really sure which software is responsible for this problem02:21
dczhello guys, i installed freebsd but i can't see it in grub list however i used to see my old freebsd in grub before new installation02:21
Baltazarupdate grub list... some command...02:21
Baltazaram not remembering at the moment02:21
powersurgeBaltazar: I don't think it's a physical problem because it only happes after x amount of time02:22
powersurgea reboot fixes it02:22
powersurgeseems like some kind of software somewhere is messing up some state and misinterpretting the signal or something02:22
powersurgeI'd imagine if I could figure out what log to look into I'd have a nice informative error message waiting for me, heh02:22
powersurgenothing in dmesg02:22
Baltazardo test with a live cd, it might be fisical or because humidity messing the pad... but if it does not happen with live system then it is software... but odd!02:23
EmanuelAnyone here on Optimum Online and use their smart router but have their ubuntu system hand DHCP and DNS?02:23
kinduffHello. I'm trying to setup my wifi card BCM4331 14e4:4331 to monitor mode using wl, seems like it's not supported. It looks like b34 drivers are installed but sudo modprobe b43 is locking me out.02:24
kinduffHow can I archieve this successfully?02:24
powersurgetap to right click doesn't happen at all in gtk applications apparently02:24
powersurgenautilus & my terminal are fine...02:25
powersurgeright click happens in gnome shell application selector though02:25
powersurgewhat on earth, man02:25
Baltazarstrage...02:26
Baltazarstrange*02:26
powersurgebah, is there a way to disable the multitouch portion of the touchpad?02:27
powersurgewithout disabling the touchpad as a whole?02:27
BaltazarI want to get my clock to use AM PM time... and get sunday as my first week day!!! Any pointers??? Can't belive this is still a proble in 2015...02:28
difolanyone can help?02:30
difolI am new on ubuntu02:31
BaltazarI want to get my clock to use AM PM time, it insist in 24 Hour ... and get sunday as my first week day!!! Any pointers??? Can't belive this is still a problem in 2015...02:31
prometHi, Is there a way to have "Alt-Tab" switch between open windows on all desktops, as in Gnome-Shell, rather than the open windows on the current desktop?02:31
prometIn Unity, I should mention02:31
Baltazarpowersurge... have you tryed to reload the touch pad driver... if that is even posible?02:32
pavlosBaltazar, is there an option in the Time settings to select 12- or 24- clock?02:34
powersurgenot sure how to do that Baltazar02:34
Baltazarpalvos... yes... and it only chages the time in the configuration window but not at the tool bar... am using Gnome in 14.04.202:41
BaltazarMy locale is Puerto Rico, but it seems messed up or whoever made/mantains this have no clue that Puerto Rico uses02:42
BaltazarI mean, sure the date is display: day - month - year02:44
Baltazarbut why monday as begining of the week02:44
Baltazarit is like in US... and I think all of Americas use Sunday as first day of week!!!02:45
BaltazarGnome feels nice but it always has this "nazi" moments that I detest02:46
Baltazar... so... no way to make Gnome use AM PM time??? nor change first day of week??02:54
pavlosBaltazar, I assume you mean gnome3 which I dont have. I use 14.04, unity and am able to set the time to am/pm. Calendar starts on Sunday02:55
stevendaleHow big should the EFI system partition be in Ubuntu?02:56
Baltazaryep... Gnome... 3 since thats the new one...02:56
pavlosBaltazar, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/custom-gnome-shell-clock-format-939981/02:58
Bashing-omstevendale: I often see the recommendation of 250MB .03:02
stevendaleBashing-om, Thanks03:02
stevendaleIf I have a EFI System partition, do I still need a 1MB partition for biosgrub?03:03
zhongfunope03:03
zhongfubiosgrub is only for BIOS systems using GPT partitions03:03
stevendalezhongfu, Thanks again :)03:03
zhongfusince GPT doesn't have a free space in front unlike MBR03:03
pavlosBaltazar, there is a gconf-editor tool and a gnome tweak tool you can install03:03
xentity1xHi my thinkpad w530 wont boot when I set the display option to discrete mode. I just get a blank screen after grub. Can someone help me figure this out?03:05
SirTuxlnxIRC.TWIT.TV03:05
Baltazartweak toll seems to be install... will see... I have to LOL short of a desire to strangle a developer because this is ridicules... so annoying and incredible that windblows can do this and gnome is still fooling around...03:08
Baltazartool*03:09
c0nfusekihello peoples... it appears i am afraid i have broken my kernel (convinced if I reboot -- my computer will die). http://paste.ubuntu.com/11705740/ any assistance will be appreciated.03:10
xentity1xHi my thinkpad w530 wont boot when I set the display option to discrete mode. I just get a blank screen after grub. Can someone help me figure this out?03:10
xentity1xHi my thinkpad w530 wont boot when I set the display option to discrete mode. I just get a blank screen after grub. Can someone help me figure this out?03:11
Baltazaralso... for some odd reason the section of mentioned on linuxquestions is not present in this gnome for some "nazi" reason I presume03:11
Bashing-omc0nfuseki: This: "gzip: stdout: No space left on device " /boot partition full ? what shows from terminal command ' df -h ' ?03:12
salvumIs anyone going to defcon03:13
zorlachey any php masters in here03:15
B0g4r7Yeah, you need to free up some space.  I thought ubuntu didn't normally have a separate /boot fs...03:16
c0nfusekihow to I @ someone?03:19
lotuspsychjec0nfuseki: ask in #freenode mate03:19
BaltazarAm trying to set this PC for a Low Vision Person... just need  clock set to am pm and first day of week set...03:20
c0nfusekioh. okay. the result of me typing df -h03:20
c0nfusekiFilesystem                    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on03:20
c0nfuseki/dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root  455G   29G  403G   7% /03:20
c0nfusekinone                          4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup03:20
c0nfusekiudev                          1.9G  8.0K  1.9G   1% /dev03:20
c0nfusekitmpfs                         390M  1.1M  389M   1% /run03:20
Bashing-om!tab | c0nfuseki03:20
ubottuc0nfuseki: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.03:20
Bashing-om!paste | c0nfuseki03:21
ubottuc0nfuseki: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:21
Theresults of when i type the command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11705818/03:24
Thesorry, I'm c0nfuseki. I think i'm having connection issues03:24
Thethank you for your assistance, Bashing; And sorry for the spam everyone. the output of the command is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11705818/03:32
Bashing-omTheFriendlyGhost: "/dev/sda1                     236M  232M     0 100% /boot" We can try ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' With no headroom (100% capacity) may not work .03:33
ColinChanhi03:33
Bashing-omThe: ^^ sorry about that bad highlight .03:34
BaltazarThat loos odd... how did you installed this???03:35
ColinChanhow to use this chat tool?03:35
lotuspsychjeColinChan: you have joined an ubuntu support channel03:35
Baltazarlooks*03:36
lotuspsychjeColinChan: ask problems about ubuntu here03:36
Thehmm. thanks for the suggestion, Bashing... but I get the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11705867/03:36
ColinChanyes03:36
Theyes... they are prettty strict if you paste code in the chat accidentally03:36
Bashing-omThe: look'n .03:36
ColinChani'm a new user of ubuntu03:37
ColinChanhow to install QQ in ubuntu platform03:38
ColinChan:03:38
ColinChan?03:38
Baltazarlink to know what qq is???03:39
Bashing-omThe: You have had a problem for a while, huh ? We do this manually to remove old kernels. 'dpkg -l | grep linux- | pastebinit' . for the place to start .03:40
lotuspsychje!details | ColinChan03:41
ubottuColinChan: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)03:41
Thewow. i had no idea. thanks Bashing.... Hey ColinChan... take note; You'll have to do this too eventually.03:42
Thethe paste from dpkg -l | grep linux- is http://paste.ubuntu.com/11705883/03:42
Baltazar... wow... that is full03:43
Bashing-omThe: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/11705883/ .03:44
Thei don't know why i have utopic there... i'm using trusty tahir 14.4.203:45
Baltazargood night...03:45
Thenight.03:45
_Dejavu1hey, crowd, where should I store my VMachines? in /usr ?03:51
jamesd /var  /virtuals  /home/virtuals  .... not in /usr03:52
jamesder /var/virtuals03:52
_Dejavu1thank you jamesd03:53
Bashing-omThe: Before we start removing kernels. need to know what kernel you are bootin so we do not remove it . show ' uname -r '  .03:53
Theit says that 3.16.0-38-generic is my kernel03:59
The(which is strange because i have a ...40 in that file.)04:00
Bashing-omThe: Good. 1 of 4 ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-{31,33,34,36,37}-generic ' If that goes well we continue with the other 3 .04:02
Theokay. it seems that went okay without a hitch. however, when I dpkg -l | grep linux- | pastebinit again, I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/11705976/ which doesn't seem to have removed anything04:05
The(i know i know 3 more steps remaining)04:06
EriC^^The: what did you do?04:06
EriC^^manually delete the kernels?04:06
Thei'm following bashing's advice on "sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-{31,33,34,36,37}-generic"04:08
EriC^^The: try it without the -extra04:09
EriC^^linux-image-3.16.0-{31,33,34,36,37}-generic04:09
zorlac_dmthow do i get php to (condition) for a text file one line at a time04:09
zorlac_dmteverytime i use foreach it seems to apply the condition to everyline04:10
EriC^^The: what are the next steps anyways, i don't want to tread on anyone's toes04:10
Bashing-omThe: EriC^^ Yepper, that is step #2 .04:11
hjarntvattZorlac try fgets() function in php04:11
hjarntvatthttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/13246597/how-to-read-a-file-line-by-line-in-php04:11
hjarntvattThis helped me04:11
Bashing-omEriC^^: The ::next is to remove the headers .04:12
Theokay... i have also now done "sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.16.0-{31,33,34,36,37}-generic"04:13
EriC^^Bashing-om: ok, cool04:13
Bashing-omthe #3 ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.16.0-{31,33,34,36,37}-generic ; and then ' #4 ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.16.0-{31,33,34,36,37} .04:14
B0g4r7236MB is not a great size for /boot.  I'd recommend at least 1GB.04:16
EriC^^1gb is kind of huge for a desktop04:16
jamesdB0g4r7: why so big? i remember it being recomended size of 128MB04:16
EriC^^then again why even have a separate /boot04:16
B0g4r7Yeah, yeah.  Nevertheless, this situation occurred here now with 236MB.04:17
B0g4r7EriC^^, or that.04:17
EriC^^jamesd: nah that's too small04:17
EriC^^jamesd: i have 2 kernels and it's larger than that04:17
smacktalkI'm trying to restore th linux image on a jail broke nook04:17
Bashing-om^^ +10 ! only required in LVM and very special applications .04:17
MCSHFor desktop 200mb is enough04:17
EriC^^i think 400mb04:17
EriC^^cause you need more than 200 just to upgrade a kernel04:18
jamesdon my ubuntu system /boot isn't seperate, and i have about 6 kernels, and its only 181MB04:18
smacktalkI want it to stay an android device, and not a nook...I just need it to not have my personal account information04:18
EriC^^unless you want to remove the old one and then install the new, and then it might not boot it..04:18
EriC^^jamesd: hmm mine is 220mb i think04:18
Thei think perhaps boot is small so people learn how to do this because if the time passes until it is large, it will happen less frequently and less people will be forced to learn to spread the information04:18
EriC^^but i have efi04:18
EriC^^so that's counting /boot/efi04:19
EriC^^ah ok, with du -shx /boot it's 94mb04:19
EriC^^that was the efi partition making it 200+mb04:19
Bashing-omThe: see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093 .04:19
ubottuUbuntu bug 1357093 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition" [Undecided,Confirmed]04:19
EriC^^i guess about 200mb is more than enough04:19
Bashing-omThe: Is step #4 done ? Ready to proceed ?04:21
Theokay. I have followed steps 3 and 4. when I dpkg -l | grep linux- | pastebinit I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/11706006/04:21
jamesdi guess it really doesn't matter, even a $100 ssd, is 250GB.... and spinnning rust really are hard to find at less than 300GB  and 5TB are just over $100 each.04:22
Thesomehow linux-image-extra-3.16.0-30-generic is still there despite me following your advice on trying to remove it?04:22
Theshould i try step 1 again?04:23
Bashing-omthe ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-{31,33,34,36,37}-generic ' .04:23
Bashing-omthe -30, maybe we can deak with that directly. presently we only want to get some operating head room and get linux-generic-lts-utopic fully installed .04:25
EriC^^http://askubuntu.com/questions/18804/what-do-the-various-dpkg-flags-like-ii-rc-mean04:25
EriC^^( btw where the heck is the man page for those? )04:25
Theoh... i see there are warning about those kernels.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/11706019/04:26
EriC^^The: the 40 kernel isn't installed properly04:26
Bashing-omEriC^^: IRT the flags, where I found them : https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites .04:27
Thewhen I dpkg -l | grep linux- | pastebinit again... i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/11706022/ though04:28
Theyeah. it's possible my -40 kernel never loaded properly04:28
Thethanks for the suggestion Eric04:28
EriC^^The: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.16.0-40-generic04:29
Theokay/04:29
Bashing-omThe: Think we are still alright. show us a new dpkg ; for an updated status .04:29
TheEric, when I sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.16.0-40-generic, errors of http://paste.ubuntu.com/11706028/04:30
EriC^^The: try sudo apt-get -f install04:30
Thethe output of dpkg -l | grep linux- | pastebinit is http://paste.ubuntu.com/11706030/04:31
EriC^^Bashing-om: any reason you left the 30 kernel there?04:32
Thei was using that 30 as an example04:33
EriC^^The: which kernel are you using right now?04:33
EriC^^( type uname -r )04:33
Bashing-omThe: That output says " not look'n too shabby'// As to the -30 kernel, just an oversight on my part . ( I should have double checked ) .04:34
Thei tried sudo apt-get -f install to what appears to be success. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11706035/04:34
EriC^^oh ok04:34
FlannelBashing-om, EriC^^: They're not in any man page that I know, but they're explained at the top of the dpkg --list thing (in a little ascii menu thing)04:34
EriC^^Flannel: ah, thanks :)04:34
Theuname -r still gives me 3.16.0-38-generic04:35
EriC^^The: ok, type sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.16.0-30-generic04:35
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Bashing-omThe: OK, let's see what results from EriC^^ directive ' suo apt-get -f install ' see if that corrects the "linux-generic-lts-utopic" packages (iu status) .04:36
EriC^^The: then type sudo apt-get purge linux-image-extra-3.16.0-39-generic , and please show the output of dpkg -l again04:37
diyttoDoes anyone have a good alternative to the OpenVPN server? I'm looking for something without licensing fees04:38
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bojanWhat is the channel name for installing ubuntu mobile??04:56
zhongfudiytto: i'm pretty sure only OpenVPN AS requires licensing fees04:56
zhongfubojan: #ubuntu-touch04:56
zhongfuwait nope04:56
diyttozhongfu: what's up dude lol04:57
zhongfuah yes #ubuntu-touch04:57
zhongfudiytto: nm you?04:57
diyttohaven't seen you in a while :p04:57
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zhongfuyeah i've been too lazy to get back on i guess04:57
diyttozhongfu: you still active with jb stuff?04:57
zhongfunope, i've never really owned many idevices anyway04:58
diyttoah okay04:58
garlotchJust got 14.04.2. Major bug still, can't drag applications/shortcuts onto desktop.05:03
garlotchany way to fix this?05:03
badbodhgarlotch, go to folder /usr/share/applications , copy-paste the app shortcut(s)05:04
badbodhif in kde, then one extra step: right-click>properties>permissions>run as executable. unity/gnome etc don't need it05:05
Bashing-omThe: Status ? you still with us ?05:06
bojanI want to install ubuntu on my mobile..is it possible??05:06
Thesorry to interrupt... but is there a cookie or kudos or a thumbs up I can give people?05:07
badbodhbojan, one day friend, one day05:07
cfhowlett!touch | bojan05:07
ubottubojan: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch05:07
agent_whiteEvenin' folks05:09
nexia'evenin05:10
Bashing-omthe Hey just a thnak you, job well done works for me . You all set now ? ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' runs clean ?05:10
EriC^^The: there's just linux-image-3.16.0-39-generic05:10
EriC^^The: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.16.0-39-generic05:10
EriC^^then you should be all good kernel-wise i think05:11
garlotchbadbodh, yeah that's what I have been doing. Is there a way to.. make an executable desktop shortcut to open this folder though?05:12
badbodhyou mean a folder shortcut ?05:12
badbodhmiddle-click-drag the folder, drop it on desktop05:13
badbodh^^that?05:13
bojanbadbodh:I dont understand05:18
Thethank you both Bashing and EriC. :)05:18
bojanbadbodh:can we install or not??05:18
Theone thing though... when I uname -r it says that I am still on "3.16.0-38-generic"05:18
bojanThe:When did you update last??05:19
Thei thought i did just now with "sudo apt full-upgrade"05:19
Bashing-omThe: :) Have you rebooted ? ( sometimes twice ) .. also IF you are on 14.10 (utopic0 it goes end of life this month . do ' lsb_release -a ; cat etc/issue ' to know what release you are on .05:20
Thei'm in trusty 14.4.2 (with a utopic kernel for some reason.)05:21
Thebut i'll add that to my notes05:21
garlotchbadbodh, thanks so much :)05:22
garlotchpeace out guys.05:22
badbodhbojan, not today. did you check out the link shared by ubottu ? says 'work in progress'05:23
bojanok05:23
Bashing-omThe: Maybe : check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack ; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL .05:28
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inerkickHi Team I got Ubuntu 14.04 Mate and Ubuntu 14.04 Gnome. yesterday some thing happened with my Mate while installing LIghttable IDE and I was getting black screen. So I installed Ubuntu 14.04 Gnome now. I right now need to uninstall Mate .. How to do that without affecting my Gnome installation05:42
inerkickkindly help soon05:42
MBXhello05:42
inerkickHello05:42
MCSHinerkick run sudo apt-get purge PACKAGE05:42
user34567is there any general /known issue with update servers at the moment? I seem to be getting 503 errors from the main & AU main server when trying to apt-get update05:43
inerkickHi MCSH.. Remember we tried to install Lighttable yesterday05:43
inerkickwhat will this command  sudo apt-get purge PACKAGE do?05:43
MCSHinerkick I actually don't remember. .. it will remo package and it's dependecies (the ones that no one else needs) from your system, just replace it with Mate05:44
inerkickyou mean to say  sudo apt-get purge Mate05:44
MCSHUser34567 I'm experiencing problems as well... not sure if it's me or servers05:45
MCSHYes05:45
inerkickright now I'm installing extra for gnome, and few other softwares, will removing simultaneously works MCSH?05:45
MCSHI don't think so05:45
inerkickok05:46
user34567MCSH thanks - i saw there is an openSSL patch released - I wondered if servers are getting slammed because of people updating for that05:46
inerkickso will the login environment changes after removing MATE, MCS05:46
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MCSHI've been trying to update my ubuntu since last night,  and servers aren't responding well so... :)05:47
inerkickyeah one more questions. How to get Humanity-dark theme for Gnome3, MCSH, I got something like Adwaith, you know how to get this old theme for gnome 3.1405:48
MCSHInerkick I'm sorry I'm clueless, maybe someone else knows05:49
inerkickok is this code to give to remove MATE "sudo apt-get purge Mate" or "sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop"05:49
inerkickI got the drive space for that installation which is around 200GB05:50
MCSHno it would be: sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop05:51
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, you could try sudo apt-get autoremove mate-desktop then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop05:52
inerkickok great.. since one link which I tried to search gave that .. ok thanks MCSH,05:52
inerkickok cyberalex4life05:52
inerkickI don't want to remove gnome 3.14 I installed alongside Mate cyberalex4life...05:52
cyberalex4lifethe seccond will install all mising gnome apps05:53
inerkicki just want to remove mate, since mate got some issues, i just installed GNOmE 3.14 last night, cyberalex4life05:53
inerkicki'm installing currently ubuntu extras, so these gnome apps extras are different from ubuntu extras is it? cyberalex4life05:54
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, purge removes all settings of the packages installed, meaning not user settings (the one with dot.package, from home) but the ones like bumblebee.conf from /etc/bumblebee05:55
inerkickwhat you mean all settings, can you explain more of it in laymen terms05:55
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, ubuntu-restricted-extras are mainly codecs, from what I know, if you just want only mate off, just do sudo apt-get remove mate-desktop (this is the safest) but it may remain other packages installed too (better than loosing what you may need)05:57
inerkickso it's better to go with "sudo apt-get autoremove mate-desktop then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop" than as MCSH suggest "sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop" is it05:57
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, I don't find ubuntu-mate-core in synaptic05:58
inerkickI am currently synaptic. SO not sure about that05:58
OerHeks ubuntu-mate-core >> mate-core05:59
MCSHautoremove works better inerkick05:59
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, ubuntu-gnome-desktop is a meta (it links to all other packages from ubuntu-gnome)05:59
inerkickok05:59
inerkickthank MCSH cyberalex4life, so helpful of you guys06:00
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, to keep in mind sudo apt-get autoremove --purge [package] will autoremove dependencies of the package together with system settings, sometimes removing too much06:01
inerkickoh06:01
inerkickk06:01
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, sudo apt-get remove --purge is equal to sudo apt-get purge06:01
inerkickok06:01
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inerkickfew questions I got . yesterday I was trying to install Lighttable IDE using the link(http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/09/install-light-table-ide-create-launcher-ubuntu/), and I wasn't able to install due to some issues "libudev.so.0 or libudev.so.1 not found " and MATE got hangup for long time. When I restarted, it gone blank screen for many hours. Than I installed GNOME3.14 since I wanted to have it long time and MAte was bit too noisy and eating06:04
inerkick up lot of my CPU performance. Now as I install gnome now and will remove Mate. I am still not able to figure it out will installing LIghttable now affects anything as earlier .. How to install lighttable ide if you could help me06:04
inerkickKindly help cyberalex4life MCSH06:04
inerkickI found few links but concerned what might go wrong06:05
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cyberalex4lifeinerkick, you could try this sudo apt-get install --reinstall libudev*06:06
inerkickI did that as one article suggested, but it didn't find that repo , not sure in exact words. But will try it now06:07
inerkickso you mean to install libudev* and than try to install Lighttable cyberalex4life06:07
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, also sudo apt-get install libudev1:i38606:08
inerkickok06:08
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, first will install or reinstall the packages that start with libudev06:08
inerkicki installed both cyberalex4life06:09
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, ok see now...06:09
inerkicki was trying to follow this now http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/11/light-table-0-7-1-released-install-in-ubuntu/06:09
inerkickbut gksu isn't working06:10
inerkickgksudo isn't installing06:10
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, sudo apt-get install --reinstall gksu06:10
TrudkoGuys any straight forward way how to disable bluetooth on the startup ?  I did find this http://itsfoss.com/turn-off-bluetooth-by-default-in-ubuntu-14-04/ but it seems ridicious way how to do such a simple thing06:11
cyberalex4lifeTrudko, sudo gedit /etc/xdg/autostart/indicator-bluetooth.desktop06:13
inerkickit said "Unable to create a required folder. Please create the following folder, or set permissions such that it can be created:06:14
inerkick/root/.config/nautilus"06:14
cyberalex4lifeTrudko, then add X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false06:14
Trudkocyberalex4life: thank you, although I was more curious if there is more stratight forward way. I am curious if there are any plans to improve this?06:15
TrudkoMore generally does anybody fully undestand how does Canonical approach development these days? It seems to me that it doesnt focus on basics and try to focus on new stuff like mobile06:16
cyberalex4lifeTrudko, in  /etc/xdg/autostart/ there are all things that should start for all users, to take control over them, just copy the one needed to  ~/.config/autostart/ then manage them with Startup Applications06:17
TrudkoI am saying this only because my experience on laptopt where battery life and especially tools seems backwards, there are still some problems with media and stability, but maybe it's just my bad luck06:17
Trudkocyberalex4life: thank you06:18
inerkicki installed lighttable, cyberalex4life,  but it's not opening06:18
cyberalex4lifeTrudko,  ~/.config/autostart/ has the highest precendence (meaning it will take over, much like ~/.local/share/applications/ over /usr/share/applications/)06:18
cyberalex4lifewait a bit inerkick06:19
Trudkocyberalex4life: cool appreciate your help06:19
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, let's go back to gksu06:20
inerkickyeah, just one update and mate-desktop removing option I tried the command and it says "Package 'mate-desktop' is not installed,"06:20
inerkickok what about gksu cyberalex4life06:21
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, does it work?06:21
inerkicki installed gksu and followed the steps http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/11/light-table-0-7-1-released-install-in-ubuntu/06:21
inerkickbut lighttable doesn't open up06:21
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, run gksu gedit see it opens gedit06:22
gagaliciouswhich is better? ubuntu or centos is better for server?06:22
inerkickyes it asks password and opens06:22
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, I am downloading lighttable see more the problem06:23
inerkickyeah sure06:23
inerkickdo i need to symblink or something cyberalex4life sudo ln -s /opt/LightTable/LightTable /usr/local/bin/light-table as suggested in  ""http://askubuntu.com/questions/498505/how-do-i-install-light-table"06:24
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, open a normal terminal, type cd /opt/LightTable/06:26
inerkickok done06:26
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, then run ./LightTable06:26
inerkickgot error06:27
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, does it open?06:27
inerkickhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11706386/06:27
inerkicknot opens it says symblink06:27
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, I just installed it and it works...06:29
inerkicki got that error? is it symlink which I should do06:29
inerkicki gave you the link you saw?06:29
inerkickhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11706397/ check this cyberalex4life06:30
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, sudo chown -R $USER:users /opt/LightTable/06:31
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, then run again, it has some errors, but it works for me06:31
inerkickno error06:32
inerkickgot it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!106:32
inerkickthank god :D06:32
inerkickthat's a huge relief and tip "sudo chown -R $USER:users /opt/LightTable/"06:32
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, well the ideea is that the default user on /opt/ is root06:33
inerkickok06:33
inerkickok thanks so much06:33
inerkicknow the issue to remove MATE, cyberalex4life06:33
inerkickit didn't had desktop environment06:33
inerkickI got this line "Package 'mate-desktop' is not installed, so not removed " when gave the comment " sudo apt-get autoremove mate-desktop" "06:34
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, try this: sudo apt-get remove mate*06:35
inerkicknow it's removing i guess06:35
inerkickyeah06:35
gagaliciousi'm pxebooting from a nfs server.. diskless environment. i have special case where i'm using synergy "multi desktop single mouse/keyboard device" whereby requires a different hostname for detection. is there a way that i can assign a hostname to different ubuntu pxe boot while using the same nfs directory?06:35
inerkickit removed I guess and I gave the comment "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop" now. and it's installing few things. Now will only I get GNOME3.14 isn't06:37
inerkickcyberalex4life:06:37
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, 'sudo dpkg --list *mate* | grep ii' will show any packages that have mate in the name and are still installed06:37
inerkickok what I should do if there are few packages still with MATE , cyberalex4life06:38
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cyberalex4lifeinerkick, you can uninstall them, I guess, copy them in a gedit window, then do sudo apt-get remove [packages with space]06:40
boofsterbhel06:40
inerkickok , got it06:40
inerkickthanks for nice tip cyberalex4life, you are genius :)06:40
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, with spaces between them, I should be able to do it in a single line of command, but I'm not a command line guru and I would have to search06:41
inerkickok ok06:42
cyberalex4lifeinerkick, I'm out06:48
inerkickok have fun .. Thanks lot there was no MATE in the list anymore06:48
inerkickit was empty. THanks a lot06:48
percival_HEY GUYS06:58
percival_you know how man prints acc. to the size of the window with the "Manual pager utils" in the exact center of the terminal window, how to print likewise in the center of the window ?(using C )06:59
percival_anyone ?07:01
TJ-percival_: man generally uses 'less' as the default pager07:04
percival_thanks TJ will look it up07:05
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x44x45x41x4EAny good GUI app for GPG?07:10
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jellow!gpg | x44x45x41x4E07:12
ubottux44x45x41x4E: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts07:12
x44x45x41x4Ejellow: Oooh. Thanks for that.07:12
jellowx44x45x41x4E let us know if you want to know anything specific about gpg :)07:13
x44x45x41x4Ejellow: I was following this guide: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-gpg-to-encrypt-and-sign-messages-on-an-ubuntu-12-04-vps07:13
x44x45x41x4EBut I was wondering if there'd be a GUI app for GPG.07:14
x44x45x41x4EAnd what's the most secure way or option for generating a PGP key? Besides choosing RSA and RSA option?07:14
TJ-x44x45x41x4E: The password manager, 'seahorse', is the default GUI tool for key management07:17
x44x45x41x4ETJ-: I see. Thanks. I'll look it up. :)07:18
helphello friends07:23
helpI am in need of assistance07:23
helpbefore I kill myself07:23
helpany takers07:23
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wisdomiaIs there anyone here who can help me with some hostname shit that's making me suicidal07:24
OerHekswisdomia, sorry, i don't fall for suicide treads.07:24
wisdomiaOk I apologize for the suicide threat but I have been sitting here for hours trying to fix this07:24
percival_q07:24
OerHeks!hostname07:24
ubottuUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.07:24
percival_quit07:25
OerHeksyou need to edit it in 2 places07:25
wisdomiathats the thing, the site is working perfectly for everyone else and works from LTE on my phone07:25
wisdomiabut when I connect from my main computer it doesn't resolve07:26
rahsdhello today I got this problem! http://paste.ubuntu.com/11706589/ any help on this. also as to why it happened?07:27
TJ-wisdomia: that suggests your local DNS is not returning the correct response. Try using "dig hostname"07:28
wisdomiaI did that and it just returned to me some data07:29
TJ-wisdomia: that is what it is supposed to!07:30
wisdomiafrom the server I ran that, should I run it from my CMD line?07:30
rahsdhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11706589/ ?07:30
TJ-wisdomia: from the system with the problem. If the answer section is empty then you can tell dig to use other DNS servers because it is likely your local DNS server is returning NXDOMAIN07:31
wisdomiaThe answer section is not empty it contains my hostname07:31
wisdomiait shows "07:32
wisdomiaServer IP -> hostname07:32
wisdomiaand the hostname -> Server IP under it07:32
TJ-wisdomia: but does it contain the IP address?07:32
wisdomiayes twice07:32
TJ-wisdomia: OK, so it *does* resolve then. You said it didn't07:32
wisdomiait doesn't for me07:32
wisdomiabut it does for everyone else07:33
TJ-But you just said it does, you used 'dig' and it returned the IP address. That means it did resolve07:33
wisdomiaYes the server does resolve07:33
wisdomiawhen I connect to the hostname from my computer it does not resolve07:33
wisdomiabut connecting to the IP works fine07:34
TJ-wisdomia: So your issue is probably related to a firewall rule somewhere, or proxy. Try manually connecting to the server's HTTP port using telnet07:34
TJ-wisdomia: try "telnet hostname 80" and see if it connects. To break the connection press Ctrl+] and then type "quit"07:35
x44x45x41x4EJust uploaded my public pgp key to pgp.mit.edu but my colleague can't search it using an OS X client GPG Suite.07:36
x44x45x41x4EAaahh. It's okay now. Thanks.07:37
wisdomiaso my /etc/hostname should be my www. correct?07:39
OerHeks /etc/hostname & /etc/hosts07:39
wisdomiain hosts 127.0.0.1 should be localhost and 127.0.1.1 is my hostname?07:40
Maxxihow do i get installed ubuntu version on cmd line?07:41
OerHekscat /etc/issue07:41
jellow!version07:42
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »07:42
Maxxity07:42
TJ-wisdomia: /etc/hosts should have nothing to do with DNS resolution of a public server07:43
rahsdI am alive :)07:43
Maxxiis the ubuntu aquarius phone any good?07:43
wisdomiaso it shouldnt contain my www.?07:43
wisdomiaim using DigitalOcean and it had the name of my droplet in it before07:44
rahsdpwd: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory  but i have "/root"07:44
OerHeksMaxxi, great phone, join #ubuntu-touch for support & info07:45
TJ-wisdomia: you said the only problem is from your local PC so that is where you need to focus. Did you do the 'telnet' test I recommended to determine if a connection can be made to the server's HTTP port?07:45
wisdomiatelnet from my server line or my computer cmd line?07:46
TJ-wisdomia: everything from your PC with the problem07:47
TJ-wisdomia: that's where you should have run the 'dig' command, too07:47
wisdomiadig and telnet are not valid in the CMD07:47
wisdomiaif I run nslookup for my hostname it says "Server failed"07:49
TJ-wisdomia: So install them: "sudo apt-get install telnet dnsutils)07:49
TJ-wisdomia: you need to be accurate with your language: "my hostname" tells us nothing. What hostname, the FQDN of the web server, the name of the local PC with the problem?07:50
wisdomiamy hostname as in the name of my site07:51
wisdomiaok so telner says connected07:51
wisdomiatelnet*07:52
TJ-wisdomia: OK, so that proves the site works. So your issue is in the browser or proxy07:52
rahsdmy /root directory exist but I have this problem :  chdir: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory07:52
TJ-wisdomia: You can use telnet to actually make the same request a web-browser would, so I'd recommend trying that next07:52
wisdomiayes I thought we narrowed that down already ^.^07:52
rahsdand this shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory job-working-directory: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory job-working-directory: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory07:52
matthias_Hello, i've downloaded ubuntu minimal iso, how can i modify it to start directly to a shell and run a sh script included in the image. manually: options -> commandline expert install -> execute shell-> accept and then i'm in a ash shell07:52
wisdomiaI know others can connect to the site fine07:53
TJ-wisdomia: "telnet FQDN 80" then once it has connected type, *exactly* these lines: "GET / HTTP/1.1"   press enter then "host: FQDN" (replace FQDN with the web server address) then press Enter *twice* and you should get the index page back from the server07:54
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jedi__join /security07:56
jedi__join  #hacking07:57
jedi__join  /hacking07:57
wisdomiatelnet could not resolve FQDN07:57
jedi__hey anyone know about MIM attacks , ssl proxying07:57
TJ-wisdomia: did you replace "FQDN" with your server's Fully Qualified Domain Name (www.example.com) ?07:58
jedi__help07:58
jedi__list07:58
wisdomiaTIL07:58
wisdomiaok got it07:59
jedi__join /security07:59
jedi__join  #security07:59
wisdomiaok it listed 301 Moved permanently07:59
wisdomiaand then says tons of other stuff and Connection closed by foreign host.08:00
wisdomiaand the site still will not resolve for me08:01
TJ-wisdomia: So, the server is replying to your PC correctly. So that proves your PC has no problem accessing the web server but your web browser does. Try another browser. Check whether your web browser is using a web proxy that interferes. etc08:02
wisdomiaBoth Chrome and Firefox do not allow it08:02
wisdomiaor it doesn't work on both of those browsers08:02
TJ-wisdomia: OK, so focus on a web proxy then08:02
wisdomiaI am not using any web proxys08:02
wisdomiathat I know of08:02
TJ-wisdomia: everything you're told us so far suggests that is an issue. If telnet connected and fetched the HTML correctly, but the web browsers won't. The only other thing I can think of is, are you trying to access HTTP*S* not HTTP from the web browsers?08:04
wisdomianope normal HTTP08:04
TJ-wisdomia: try a command-line web-browser. I use 'w3m' or 'lynx'. I think 'w3m' is usually installed on an Ubuntu installation but you'd have to check08:06
TJ-wisdomia: have you closed and restarted the web browser since this began? Sometimes they cache DNS lookups and if one failed before it could still be relying on that lookup rather than doing a fresh lookup08:09
wisdomiai have cleared cache and restarted the browser many times08:09
wisdomiaalso released and renewed my ipconfig08:09
wisdomiaand flushed dns08:09
TJ-wisdomia: Is the browser on a Windows PC?08:11
wisdomiayes08:11
Johnny_LinuxD`oh!08:11
matthias_my main point is that i want to boot a small image over pxe and then execute automatically commands i. e. mount cp rm poweroff/reboot . what would be the best approach?08:11
TJ-wisdomia: And you used telnet from the Windows PC?08:11
wisdomiano telnet from the server SSH08:12
TJ-wisdomia: I *said* you must do *all* your tests from the PC with the problem. You have a problem *on your local PC or LAN*08:12
wisdomiaand I said that the CMD doesn't recognize telnet08:13
wisdomiasorry, I am very new to this DNS shit08:13
TJ-wisdomia: I wasn't aware you were working with Windows!08:13
wisdomiathe server is Ubuntu08:13
wisdomiamy PC is windows08:13
CereS2009Hi, i'm having a problem mit my touchpad on dell xps 13, since few days it seems, that when moving the mousepointer around with one finger, sometimes it a) selects any item like when LMB is pressed.08:14
TJ-wisdomia: There's an issue on your local network, not on the server. Best guess is your ISP or your router's DNS server are not correctly fetching the DNS A record for your web site, possibly because they've cached a previous look-up done before the domain's DNS was configured correctly.08:14
wisdomiaso I must take to comcast with a pitchfork yah?08:15
TJ-wisdomia: best bet is to ask in #windows channel on how to test DNS issues. Alternatively, if you have a local PC with Linux on use that to test if your ISP/router are the problem.08:16
TJ-wisdomia: If your local router does WiFi and you have a phone that connects to that Wifi, try accessing the web site from the phone. If that fails to connect over WiFi you've proved its the router or ISP08:16
wisdomiaOk it doesn't resolve from WiFi on my phone when it was previously working with LTE08:17
wisdomiaso it must be my router08:17
TJ-wisdomia: So, you've proved its either your router or your ISP. Simple test is to power down and up the router08:17
wisdomiabrb were going balls deep in this router08:17
wisdomiajesus christttttttt08:24
wisdomiaguess if it worked08:24
wisdomiathe answer is of course not life is never easy08:24
wisdomiais it possible the server blocked my IP for flooding?08:25
TJ-wisdomia: No, but did you only recently configure the server's domain name DNS records?08:28
wisdomiaIt was working perfectly from setup before, I could resolve the hostname and everything was fine. The one time I refreshed and it wouldn't resolve the site and this is how it started.08:29
wisdomiaThen I started fiddling around with the /etc/hosts and stuff08:29
TJ-wisdomia: If you've tried to resolve a host and it isn't currently in the DNS zone file, then *your* local caching DNS server will remember the NXDOMAIN response (no domain record) for a length of time determined by the DNS zone's TTL (time-to-live) which is often set to 24 hours or longer. Usually when first configuring a domain and testing it you should set the TTL to something short like 60 seconds, and change it to 24 hours once tests are done08:30
wisdomiaso am I shit out of luck for 24 hours08:31
wisdomiaor is there something I can do08:32
TJ-wisdomia: You can work around the issue temporarily (on the PC) by adding a manual entry to the 'hosts' file of the form "<IP address>    <hostname>" e.g. "1.2.3.4    www.example.com"08:34
Lixumuxhi all, I am researching a problem with booting from a usb stick, and have found some commands about removing or starting "modules", plus the lsusb command, but I cannot seem to "get" if those commands are supposed to be run in a terminal on the computer (from the computer OS), or in the error console of the usb stick where I see the errors (initramfs/BusyBox/Ash shell)08:34
wisdomiaso on my computers hosts file?08:34
wisdomiaor the server hosts file08:34
TJ-wisdomia: on the PC with the problem08:34
wisdomiahow exactly do i go about that08:35
TJ-wisdomia: In Windows I think 'hosts' is kept under \Windows\system32\etc\" or something similar08:35
Lixumuxwisdomia, it is not the pc that has the problem, it is the usb, or does this relate to affecting the BIOS or boot process on the very PC?08:35
TJ-Lixumux: don't get confused; wisdomia  was responding to me08:36
Lixumuxwisdomia, oops, i misunderstood - wrong post08:36
LixumuxTJ-, yes, i got that now, sorry08:36
wisdomiathere is no etc in sys3208:36
TJ-Lixumux: lsusb won't be available from the shell in the initial ramdisk image08:37
TJ-wisdomia: ask in #windows08:37
wisdomiadrivers/etc08:37
wisdomiahosts08:37
wisdomiaI am reading online that you cannot edit the windows 7 hosts file but were going butterfly knife ghetto on this file rn08:37
wisdomiayep cannot save hosts08:38
TJ-wisdomia: not even with admin privileges?08:39
buntyHi guys, I am trying to run RTSP stream using gstreamer but it gives error about  X11 server. please help me on this.08:40
wisdomiaok got it08:40
LixumuxTJ-, ok, so I boot the normal Linux OS that runs on the computer, opens a terminal, and where are the modules that should be "removed" or started, on the PC OS, or on the USB stick? The info I found was about removing some "modules", and I dont know what or where they are, I assume in order to solve a USB problem, they must be related to either the USB stick or the BIOS?08:40
wisdomiaand still not working08:40
medHI every one08:40
LixumuxTJ-, eg modprobe uhci_hcd08:41
medsomeone to help plz08:41
TJ-Lixumux: Ubuntu has most modules for common hardware built-in to keep boot times to a minimum. If you're dropped to a busybox shell in initrd, many common modules will be under the directory "/lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/"08:42
bunty#ubuntu-touch08:42
Lixumuxthis is the info I have: "once you know the module name with root powers you can 'rmmod (modulename)' and then 'modprobe (modulename)' to reload"08:43
medmy asus touchpad doesnt work on ubuntu08:43
Ioyriewisdomia - for hosts - copy, paste into a temp file, make a second copy in case you fail, edit the stuff in the temp file, delete the original hosts, rename temp file to hosts then move it back to the original folder, assuming you are working with windows 708:44
Ioyrieor chmod that08:44
wisdomiaLol I just downloaded a VPN for chrome and now I can see the site fine ^.^08:45
wisdomiawhy the fuck didn't I think of this 6 hours ago08:45
TJ-wisdomia: huh? 'downloaded a VPN' what does that mean? If you're accessing the site over a VPN that probably means the caching DNS server at the exit point of the VPN is being used now rather than your ISPs DNS.08:46
medhii08:46
wisdomiaYes, I downloaded a Chrome VPN extension and it works perfectly08:47
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Lixumuxwisdomia, out of curiosity; what was the name of that chrome VPN extension?08:48
wisdomiabetternet08:49
LixumuxTJ-, so shall I run the rmmod and the modprobe commands under busybox shell? That is the only thing that makes sense, if not I will be removing modules from the wrong OS?08:51
LixumuxTJ-, and I dont know if "root powers" needs a special command in Busybox shell, or if that is already root since it is meant to be a problem solving interface?08:52
TJ-Lixumux: how about you tell us the actual issue you're experiencing.... the solution you've been told doesn't make much sense to me at all08:52
TJ-Lixumux: FYI: in the initrd shell there is only 'root' access08:53
LixumuxTJ-, i have a usb stick (Sandisk Ultra Fit USB 3.0) in a USB 3.0 port (also tried with the 2.0 port), which have been working for a month, then suddenly it does not boot, and gives me errors08:53
LixumuxTJ-, the first error is: "(initramfs) (36.050970) usb 4-1: device not accepting address 4, error -62"08:55
TJ-Lixumux: have you tested the Sandisk in another PC?08:56
TJ-Lixumux: those errors are usually caused by 1) a failed device or 2) faulty ports on the PC08:56
LixumuxTJ-, second error after the first one: "[41.851898] xhci_hcd 0000:00:14:0: Command completion event does not match command"08:56
TJ-Lixumux: will other bootable flash USB devices work in the same ports?08:56
LixumuxTJ-, I believe so, but must test again just to make sure08:57
TJ-Lixumux: your best steps are process of elimination to isolate where the issue is08:57
TJ-Lixumux: It looks like the USB works correctly from the BIOS to load the boot loader but then fails when the OS tries to take over the USB devices.08:58
LixumuxTJ-, sure, so I verify if I can boot it on another laptop, and if I can boot other sticks from the same port first, then will be back here in the channel, as I need to reboot to do that08:58
TJ-Lixumux: That suggests you should also look at any firmware/BIOS options that affect USB08:58
LixumuxTJ-, firmware upgrade for the laptop, you mean?08:58
LixumuxTJ-, bios upgrade?08:59
TJ-Lixumux: it's obviously reading the bootloader and that is reading the OS and initrd (using BIOS/firmware USB functions)08:59
TJ-Lixumux: No... just any options that might affect USB.08:59
LixumuxTJ-, I havent done bios upgrades before, it is a bit scary, what if the whole pc becomes useless afterwards. Right now it is only the usb that fails.08:59
LixumuxTJ-, from where do I do such upgrade of "only options that affect usb"? From inside the main Linux OS that I am booting the main HD from (which I am in now)?09:00
TJ-Lixumux: Ubuntu has the USB drivers built-in so you can't unload them using rmmod09:01
jean-guyu09:01
jean-guy<<<I have libavcodec54 installed on mp computor...09:02
medhello09:02
TJ-Lixumux: I was referring to the PC BIOS/firmware's Setup menus. I doubt there'll be anything to help in this circumstance but it's always worth checking.09:02
CereS2009Hi for a mounted volume i once answered the "Always perform this action" and selected open with totem. now any new mounted device gets openend with totem and it tries to open all files on it. anyone knows where to change this behaviour? o cant find it.09:03
CereS2009it's ubuntu mate with cinnamon and nautilus/nemo09:03
LixumuxTJ-, ok, I just dont know which tools to use, or where to start them from . First I try to understand if I am supposed to boot the pc from the main OS and open a root terminal from there and do the commands there. If so, how does that affect the USB when I boot from it and it has a different OS on it? I fail to see how that can be solved at least if not specifying the USB stick "ID" on the command line to have the commands do their wor09:04
Lixumuxk on the right place? Perhaps I just dont "get" what happens in the boot process. I thought I need to change something ON the usb stick or in the bios.09:04
jean-guyWhen I try to install xubuntu restricted extras, it tells me it gives me 2 choize:-  uninstalle the libavdodec 54   or  install anyways...   So my question:-  is it okee if I use the option:  install anyways  or is it better to uninstall libavcodec5409:04
TJ-Lixumux: 1st possibility is BIOS Setup options. 2nd is kernel configuration passed by the boot-loader (GRUB usually) to the kernel on the kernel's command-line09:05
LixumuxTJ-, I will check the bios menus09:06
LixumuxTJ-, so if I use "Boot Repair Disk" and reinstall Grub on the USB stick, that may also affect this?09:07
TJ-Lixumux: It might. You can check the kernel's command line if you're stuck in the initrd shell with "cat /proc/cmdline"09:07
TJ-Lixumux: I'd be very surprised if anything has been added there to affect this *unles* you've added options to work around hardware issues. In that case options such as "acpi*=" or "noapic" "nolapic" "pci=" would be suspect09:08
ubuntuser13Location of users file in ubuntu?09:13
sales_guruUbuntu Unity SUCKS and should be banned as a fraud risk and threat to the IT industry.09:16
sales_guruDon't agree?  Send your complaints here:  https://help.gumtree.com.au/index.php?a=add09:16
sales_guruUbuntu unity is below crap level and if sold, would cause customers to demand a refund.09:17
sales_guruDon't agree, explain why in the link above.09:17
LixumuxTJ-, ok, that usb stick boots ok from a usb2.0 port on an older laptop09:20
TJ-Lixumux: OK, so that points to some kind of change in the PC's firmware configuration or the operating system installed on the USB device09:21
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gagaliciousi just installed ubuntu 14.04 on my desktop... it's showing a blank screen with the ubuntu... grey-orange background... the installation try is working fine but the installed ubuntu is not showing anything only the orange background. what is happening?10:10
EriC^^gagalicious: it might be a graphics driver issue10:12
EriC^^try booting with nomodeset10:12
EriC^^!nomodeset10:12
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter10:12
gagaliciousyeah i just realised... nomodeset. where do i put it. i'm in the boot section now10:12
polyziumhey everyone10:13
polyziumi want to install kde10:14
polyziumso i typed10:14
polyziumsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:14
polyziumnow it says10:14
polyziumThe following packages will be REMOVED: modemmanager10:14
ObrienDavekde has it's own modem manager10:15
polyziumis "modemmanager" a neccessary component in ubuntu?10:15
ObrienDavemaybe yes, maybe no. something you have installed needs it10:15
zhongfui'd say not really necessary unless you're doing something like mobile broadband or dialup or dsl10:16
polyziumah i'm using direct internet connection10:16
polyziumso it's not necessary?10:16
Hurshhi anyone expertise in samba wanna help10:19
EriC^^what's the problem?10:20
Hurshhi eric10:20
polyziumsamba shares not visible?10:20
Hurshi am having 2 nos. 2 tb hdd and 1nos 500 gb hdd and want to connect in the domain environment for the file server10:21
Hursheric can u help10:23
EriC^^Hursh: i don't know much about samba10:23
EriC^^Hursh: i don't know if this might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide10:24
gagaliciousextremely puzzled why installation tryout works but installed doesnt work... :I10:27
EriC^^Hursh: share the problem here, many people are experienced in samba10:28
Hursheric i had try it eariler no progress10:28
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ioriaHursh, cat /etc/samba/smb.conf10:29
EriC^^gagalicious: did you choose to update while installing? it could be that a new kernel was installed or a graphics driver10:29
Hurshmy issue is i am having share partition on the RAID1 and Samba is able to join the domain and share folder can be seen on the client but while accessing it prompt for the password10:30
Hursheven administrator passowrd is not able access folder10:31
ioriaHursh, you can configure samba as you want, with or without passwd ... but you have to give the right permissions10:33
HurshBut i am using windows server 2003 active directory to authenicate the user10:34
Hurshthis thing i can't change i am bound to do tis10:34
ioriaHursh, i used nis in the past, but not active directory... don't know how it works10:35
voozeHi, I have a high dpi laptop screen, and a "normal" external monitor. Is there someway to make unity-launcher icons change with the scaling? Like when laptop uses scaling 1.25, the icons should be 38. When external monitor they should be 32. I can change this in unit tweak tool, but It would be cool a script or something.10:36
Hurshoohhh...10:36
Hurshwhat u suggest what is the best option for me to run the samba server without joining the domain and still domain client able to access it10:37
ioriaHursh, in any case, you have to backup smb.conf, add a new [global] and [data] sections, then you have to chmod and  chown the share you choose10:38
Hurshany practical experience b'coz its really big pain in my A** and its hurting me10:38
ioriaHursh, try this https://www.liberiangeek.net/2015/01/install-configure-samba-ubuntu-14-10/, it works also on vivid10:40
Hurshur asl ioria10:42
bekksHursh: You're on the wrong network if those information matters to you.10:42
Hurshguide me bekks10:43
bekksHursh: No.10:43
Hurshbekks: point me in the direction10:43
bekksHursh: This is a support channel, no dating channel. And most channels on this network are not for dating.10:43
bekksHursh: 'nuff said.10:44
MonkeyDustHursh  did you have an ubuntu support question?10:44
BluesKajHiyas all10:44
Hurshi know but this related to the professional query and experience10:44
ObrienDaveyou can ask in #ubuntu-server10:45
Hurshi am working in this field from last 16 years for windows support and trying my hand in linux servers10:45
MonkeyDustHursh  type /j #ubuntu-server10:46
Hurshi have no issue with desktop linux server and looking to make the circle of linux professional so that i can update my self with latest info10:46
Hurshioria please don't mind i just don't to hurt any one if i had unknowingly10:48
bunty_X11 server on ubuntu touch is not working? anybody has any idea?10:48
MeerkatWill ubuntu support more than 4 keyboard layouts anytime soon? I need a 5th one for esperanto.10:48
brainwashHursh: this seems to lead nowhere, so I suggest that you join #samba and ask the experts :)10:49
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Hurshbrainwah: i appreciate and taking off to samba site give me a link10:50
northwestHalla everybody10:51
northwest: ))10:51
narkmanhi10:51
cedian_linuxwhat is this channel about?10:51
narkmansupported for ubuntu10:51
bekkscedian_linux: Support for the linux operating system flavor "Ubuntu".10:51
cedian_linuxok, is there also a dev support?10:51
MonkeyDustHursh  type /j #samba10:51
narkmanyup10:51
Hurshtype /j #samba10:52
brainwashcedian_linux: #ubuntu-devel10:52
cedian_linuxthanks10:52
northwestnice10:52
northwestlong, long time dind'nt use irc10:53
brainwash!ask10:53
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:53
Hurshlogging off i think i am in wrong channel this is must be new beeies10:53
MonkeyDustHursh  follow the instructions you're getting in this channel10:53
Hurshno luck till now10:54
MonkeyDustHursh  yes: type /join Â#samba   <-- start there10:54
Hurshthankyou monket dust bye10:55
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ccna_divyawhat to do after CCNA ?11:19
TJ-CCNB?11:19
bazhangccna_divya, thats not on topic here, try a more appropriate channel11:19
bekksccna_divya: CCNP.11:20
bazhang!alis | ccna_divya11:20
ubottuccna_divya: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*11:20
ccna_divyathanks11:20
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`ghi. I'm having problems with hdmi audio on an optimus laptop with nvidia gtx 770m11:29
lotuspsychje!sound | `g11:29
ubottu`g: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.11:29
`gthe nvidia hdmi audio device does show in lspci, but doesn't in aplay -l11:30
`glotuspsychje: the hardware is undetected by alsa11:31
lotuspsychje`g: wich grafix driver you have?11:32
`gnvidia proprietary drivers11:32
lotuspsychje`g: installed nvidia-prime aswell?11:32
`gno, uh, is that the optimus thing? I use bumblebee for that11:34
lotuspsychje`g: bumblebee is outdated, use nvidia-prime instead, but not sure this will influence your sound problem11:35
`gI doubt it would, but why is bumblebee "outdated"?11:37
bekksBecause there are newer and more reliable solutions?11:37
TJ-`g: check /var/log/dmesg ... there may be clues as to what *is*discovered and what has problems11:38
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haymanhello11:40
squeak81hey there11:41
haymanhey11:41
haymanis there anyone that can tell me when the new ubuntu comes out11:41
MonkeyDusthayman  in octgober11:41
MonkeyDusttypo*11:41
haymanmanythanks monkey dust is it a fresh installation with the new version do you know]11:42
dearnhayman: pretty sure it's always 4th and 10th month11:42
haymanthanks dearn11:42
squeak81October11:42
haymanoctober look forward to it11:42
haymanstill a bit to go yet11:43
MonkeyDusthayman  6 months between two releases, 24 months between two LTSs11:44
haymanthanks will it be even better11:45
MonkeyDusthayman  every company aims at improving its products, canonical is no different11:45
squeak81Pretty sure they're going for worse with the next release ;)11:46
tuga3dhi all! when i have a nautilus window in a mounted drive and i click in the nautilus shortcut in the dash, it opens a new window instead of switching to the window i already have. Any hints on how to solve this?11:46
tuga3dalso when i scroll the mouse over it, it works. I want this beheavior when i click it.11:46
haymanyeah lol11:46
MonkeyDusttuga3d  correct, scrolling the mouse over it is the way to do it11:49
tuga3dMonkeyDust: how can i bind that to click?11:50
lotuspsychjetuga3d: maybe ccsm or dconf-editor can tweak that?11:51
MonkeyDusttuga3d  not sure, i suggest you start here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86063911:51
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tuga3dthnks, gonna check the link and google deconf and ccsm tweaks11:53
`gTJ-: this was in the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11707667/ i see no errors though.12:00
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`galso: nvidia hdmi audio *is* in there12:01
lotuspsychje`g: graphic driver switch can sometimes fix audio too12:01
lotuspsychje`g: try switch + install nvidia-prime12:02
vmaskubuntu is confusing me. what is the proper way to shutdown via terminal (equivant of gui without confirming unsaved work)?12:05
RafaelKhello folks12:05
zhongfuvm: maybe "sudo poweroff"?12:06
SCHAAP137i thought it was 'sudo shutdown -h now'12:07
badbodhvm "sudo shutdown now" "sudo shutdown 10" in 10 seconds12:07
genii-h12:07
badbodh"sudo shutdown -r now" to reboot12:07
genii-h for halt, -r for reboot12:07
vmdoes the gui halt or poweroff?12:08
badbodh-h for desktops that don't power off, don't need that in most cases i think12:08
RafaelKis there some way to resolve dependency problem. I installed mysql 5.6 from mysqls apt repo12:08
RafaelKnow i want to compile php and run "apt-get build-dep php5" but get following error "mysql-server : Depends: mysql-server-5.5 but it is not going to be installed"12:08
RafaelKis it possible to tell apt, that mysql-server should be ignored for this command?12:08
badbodhRafaelK, first "apt-get -f install" , if doesn't work "dpkg --configure -a" then run previous command again12:10
badbodhall with sudo of course12:10
badbodhdon't forget to close synaptic/software center12:11
RafaelKi have only ssh12:11
badbodhit is a shell right? that shell doesn't do root stuff?12:12
RafaelKbadbodh: same problem12:12
badbodhRafaelK, ok do "apt-cache show  mysql-server-5.5"12:14
badbodhlook for the entry "Breaks:......" is any package from this list installed in your system ?12:14
RafaelKlibmysqlclient-dev (<< 5.5.17~), mysql-client-5.1, mysql-server (<< 5.5.43-0ubuntu0.14.04.1), mysql-server-5.112:15
tuxfanhi all, anyone familiar with boot problems from USB 3.0 sticks? Not sure if I have an overheating problem or what. Can boot with other USB 2.0 sticks from both the usb 2.0 and usb 3.0 ports, but the new Sandisk Ultra Fit USB 3.0 does not boot anymore, after 1 month.12:15
badbodhRafaelK, any of them already installed ?12:16
RafaelKbadbodh: no, i installed 5.6 from mysql apt repo12:16
RafaelKbadbodh: is it possible to blacklist ubuntus apt entry for mysql?12:17
badbodhmaybe your 'build'ing packages depend on 5.512:17
RafaelKalso mysql-5.6 not php 5.6 :D12:17
genii!pinning | RafaelK12:18
ubottuRafaelK: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto12:18
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lotuspsychjetuxfan: tryed several ports?12:21
mala-guitaquit12:21
lotuspsychjetuxfan: does your sandisk mount in ubuntu?12:22
RafaelKgenii: do you know how to prefer local repos? deb [trusted=yes] file:///files/linux-repos/ubuntu/dists/trusty/binary-armhf / ?12:24
gagaliciousis there a way i can use ubuntu the older gnome version and not the unity?12:25
gagalicioushow do i start ubuntu with the older gnome not the unity thing?12:25
ioriathere is fallback12:26
wizzkiddcould someone point me in the right direction of how to create a website on ubuntu that i can add to a git repository for others to clone and use, without them having to install apache or similar?12:26
zykotick9!notunity | gagalicious12:26
ubottugagalicious: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.12:26
lotuspsychje!git | wizzkidd12:27
ubottuwizzkidd: git is a distributed revision control/software code management project created by Linus Torvalds. For more information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)12:27
lotuspsychjewizzkidd: nvm thats not very helpfull12:27
wizzkiddlotuspsychje: lol12:27
wizzkiddlotuspsychje: does my question make sense?12:28
gagaliciousubottu : ok.12:28
lotuspsychjewizzkidd: maybe the #github guys know some tricks for you?12:28
wizzkiddlotuspsychje: what i've noticed is that the guys who made WebUI's for sickbeard and couchpotato etc are not using an apache web server, hence why we can clone from their git, setup the configuration, and execute the website.py with python, and then magically i'd have a website running locally on my custom port12:30
drioterHow do i link togheter two screen so they wont show the same things?12:30
deitarionIs there an updated avconv package available for 14.04 LTS that I could use? I normally let youtube-dl complain and fallback, but the archived Twitch.TV stream for something I backed has no fallback.12:31
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TekkkzHello. I want to watch DRM based streams, like RTL NOW, but it still wont work after i have installed hal ... what should i do now?12:36
OerHeksTekkkz, HAL is old, for some time now, use google Chrome to watch DRM based streams, netflix works .. not sure that HAL is now going to give issues.12:38
OerHeks!hal12:39
ubottuhal is in the process of being deprecated.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_layer for more info.12:39
drioterHow do i create linked displayes?12:40
deitarionWhoever named that page should have called it "halectomy", not "halsectomy" </language nerd>12:40
Tekkkzyeah, but i just want to use firefox, and some time ago it worked with hal - so why not now?12:41
Tekkkz(a half year ago it worked on another machine)12:41
lotuspsychje!xrandr | drioter12:41
ubottudrioter: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1212:41
OerHeksI have no answer about firefox, i deleted that crappy browser.12:42
Tekkkznah, firefox is best12:42
OerHeksDid you use flashplugin installer or the more up2date pepperflash?12:42
Tekkkzi love the sync function, i think i have flashplugin-installer, yes12:42
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deitarionOerHeks: No insults please. I deleted Google's arrogant browser and switched to Firefox when they solicited feedback on removing http:// from the address bar, then ignored a years requests for justification and examples of how the "what to copy to clipboard" guessing makes things buggier.12:43
lotuspsychjedeitarion: this isnt the place for offtopic chat12:43
gagaliciousjust install gnome panel... how can i force it to be the default of ubuntu start?12:44
deitarionlotuspsychje: Just showing him how his reaction can be reversed. I'd have said "But let's agree to disagree" but I'm not entirely sure how much room I had left and Pidgin truncates rather than splitting across lines.12:44
Johnny_Linuxi just installed 'crappy browser"12:44
OerHeksThe flash page only gives pepperflash for chromium, there must be a hack somewhere for firefox https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash12:44
lotuspsychjedeitarion: again, offtopic doesnt belong here, move on12:44
deitarionlotuspsychje: Are you actually reading what I said? I said I was done.12:45
Tekkkzsudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree hal » can help me this?12:45
deitarionTekkkz: pepperflashplugin-nonfree is for Chrome only. Google cut a deal with Adobe to keep providing flash versions beyond 11 via their Pepper API which is too specific to Chrome's innards for Firefox to implement it.12:46
OerHeksoh, i read something new: As of 2015-05, the old "pepperflashplugin-nonfree" is deprecated in favor of an official, maintained, one-step package called adobe-flashplugin, which works for Firefox and Chromium and derivatives12:46
Tekkkzso i need adobe-flashplugin and hal?12:46
OerHeksI don't think you need HAL.12:47
lotuspsychjeTekkkz: OerHeks just suggsted you hal is outdated..12:47
MonkeyDustTekkkz  is that hal as in hardware abstraction layer?12:47
Tekkkz?12:47
gagalicioushow can i set the classic gnome desktop as my default desktop? help12:50
MonkeyDustgagalicious  install it, logout, switch, login ... ubuntu remembers it when you login the next time12:51
lotuspsychjegagalicious: logout to fallback and re-login12:51
gagaliciousthe problem is i can't login...12:51
lotuspsychjegagalicious: why not?12:51
gagaliciousit shows the default ubuntu background on my ubuntu 14.0412:52
gagaliciousso i installed the fallback... and i wish to have it as default without logging in12:52
MonkeyDustgagalicious  in the login screen or on your desktop?12:52
gagaliciousdesktop12:52
gagaliciousi dont hav a login screen12:52
gagaliciousi think it skipped it immediately12:52
gagaliciouslike auto login12:52
MonkeyDustgagalicious  right click on the desktop, change background12:52
lotuspsychjegagalicious: then disable auto login12:52
gagalicioushow do i disable autologin?12:53
lotuspsychjegagalicious: @useraccounts12:53
gagaliciousfrom the command line?12:53
gagaliciouspls gimme a clue12:53
lotuspsychjegagalicious: no the user accounts icon from dash12:53
MonkeyDustgagalicious  system settings > users > automatic login12:53
gagaliciousi cant login!12:53
compdocheh12:54
gagaliciousit shows ubuntu desktop without any panels12:54
gagalicious..12:54
deitarionTekkkz: We're asking why you're installing HAL because it's sort of like blindly following instructions say say to install Windows XP when you've already got Windows 7.12:54
deitarions/say say/that say/12:54
gagaliciousthere's nothing except the desktop background showing... absolutely nothing else12:54
lotuspsychjegagalicious: what did you do to remove gnome panel?12:54
Tekkkzbecause it is necessary to watch DRM12:54
MonkeyDustgagalicious  ctrl-alt f1... can you login.12:54
MonkeyDust?12:54
Tekkkzand it still doesnt works12:54
OerHeksTekkkz, no it is not.12:54
gagaliciousyeah i can login with ctrl alt f112:55
zykotick9gagalicious: ctrl+alt+f1 login to VT, then "ls -l .Xauthority" is it owned by your user or root?12:55
Tekkkzit is, see ubuntu wiki12:55
isbotnetcoolhow can one change / remove the number that is displayed when you list some files and their permissions? for example, it says ’60’ instead of 4.0k for a directory12:55
Tekkkzor tell me how it works without hal?12:55
gagaliciousowned by the yser12:55
MonkeyDustgagalicious  ok, then it's an X problem, probably12:55
gagaliciouszykotick9 : owned by the user12:55
gagaliciousso now i logged in at the command line12:55
gagalicioushow do i disable automatic gui login?12:56
zykotick9gagalicious: ok, that's good.  best of luck.12:56
OerHeksTekkkz, read again > " Hal is in the process of being deprecated" but hey, we see DRM issues daily, and chrome/pepperflash works best for drm streams.12:56
lotuspsychjegagalicious: try recoverymode from grub=failsafeX perhaps12:56
ioriagagalicious, how did you install Gnome ?12:56
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gagaliciousioria : normal install. usb thumbdrive12:56
deitarionTekkkz: Back when those instructions were written, they were still moving off HAL. Only install HAL if it turns out that they STILL haven't finished upgrading.12:56
Tekkkzbut i need firefox cause its sync functions and i dont want to have two browsers12:56
gagaliciousioria : the install try out works with the gnome panel and everything... but after installation... only ubuntu background showing. i'm using gma500 intel video card12:57
OerHeksTekkkz, did you install the adobe-flashplugin installer?12:57
MonkeyDustgagalicious  sudo -e /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf   put a # before autologin12:57
Tekkkzyou mean adobe-flashplugin or flashplugin-installer?12:57
ioriagagalicious, you could install Gnome metapackage from Synaptic12:58
gagaliciousMonkeyDust: ok i'll try12:58
lotuspsychjegagalicious: have you ever been able to see panels in unity with that card?12:58
gagaliciousioria : apt-get install....???12:58
deitarionTekkkz: You might have to just wait. Last I checked, Firefox on Linux can't use Flash newer than 11 (thanks for nothing Adobe) and the EME DRM extensions (an alternative sites can choose to support) for Firefox are currently only ready on Windows.12:58
ioriagagalicious, Synaptic Package Manager12:58
gagaliciouslotuspsychje : only through the installation tryout... the "Try before install option"12:58
lotuspsychje!info synaptic | gagalicious12:58
Tekkkznono, flash works, but not DRM12:58
ubottugagalicious: synaptic (source: synaptic): Graphical package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.81.3 (vivid), package size 1345 kB, installed size 7685 kB12:58
lotuspsychjegagalicious: maybe a lubuntu/xubuntu might work better on that gma card12:59
zykotick9ioria: if gagalicious can't login, who could they use Synaptic?12:59
zykotick9s/who/how/12:59
ioriagagalicious, infact i say 'could? (past), i menat 'before' :-)12:59
ioria*meant13:00
Johnny_Linux+13:00
gagaliciousi disable auto login first... but i'm installing vim... so need to wait for download and install..13:00
tuxfanlotuspsychje, yes, tried several ports, the usb boots ok on another computer with usb 2.0 ports (only), and yes, it mounts in ubuntu and I can use it normally as a usb stick (copy/write)13:01
adantehello, newcomer to btrfs - am i crazy for thinking about using it on an archive SMR drive?13:02
lotuspsychjetuxfan: does the usb 3.0 stick show its name from bios?13:02
lotuspsychje!btrfs | adante13:02
ubottuadante: Btrfs is a new filesystem available for Ubuntu. It is currently marked as experimental, and should not be used for important data. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs13:02
gagaliciousadante : u are crazy to even think it13:03
gagaliciousadante : use... zfs or just software raid your drive... i highly recommend that13:03
lotuspsychjetuxfan: any error after you boot the usb3.0 at post?13:04
MonkeyDustadante  try #btrfs13:04
tuxfanlotuspsychje, yes, in bios, it recognises it as Sandisk - and I have several errors after booting13:06
lotuspsychjetuxfan: can you recall what it said?13:06
Tekkkzi have installed chromium and pepperflashplugin-nonfree, but i still cant play the video13:07
badbodhTekkkz, share the link13:08
badbodhif it plays on ours it isn't a software problem13:08
lotuspsychjetuxfan: if your system is uefi, might block your usb to boot perhaps? doublecheck fastboot off and secureboot off and F12 to boot sandisk13:09
Tekkkzbadbodh, http://www.nowtv.de/rtl/alarm-fuer-cobra-11/cyberstorm/player13:09
tuxfanlotuspsychje, no uefi or secureboot13:10
tuxfanlotuspsychje, the first error is: "(initramfs) (36.050970) usb 4-1: device not accepting address 4, error -62"13:11
tuxfanlotuspsychje, second error after the first one: "[41.851898] xhci_hcd 0000:00:14:0: Command completion event does not match command"13:11
badbodhTekkkz, yeah i've seen this website before. no it doesn't play on mine either13:12
lotuspsychjetuxfan: did you try a clean reformat with gparted?13:12
Tekkkzyeah wow and how can i play it?13:13
zap0my ubuntu VM has run out of space.....  anyone suggest how i can trim it down really fast.. what are some trivial things that take up lots of space?13:13
badbodhplay something from dailymotion. if that plays your falsh is fine13:13
MonkeyDustzap0  if it's virtualbox, use VBoxManage13:13
badbodhlikely to be website specific problem. best you could try is disable ad-blocks13:13
zap0MonkeyDust, ok.   2) awesome show!   3) do you know of a program that can do "clean up temp files" ?13:14
tuxfanlotuspsychje, then I tried to turn OFF legacy USB in the BIOS, did not help, and when I turned it back on, and then booted with that usb 3.0 stick in the usb 2.0 port, I get some other errors in addition: "usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110", and the same error again with a different number: error -7113:14
Tekkkzdoes it works at you without adblock? badbodh13:14
tuxfanlotuspsychje, no, have not tried to reformat yet13:14
lotuspsychjetuxfan: how did you create your usb?13:14
lotuspsychjetuxfan: and wich ubuntu .iso on it?13:15
tuxfanlotuspsychje, I restored a disk image made with Ubuntu Disks that was working on another usb stick (2.0).13:15
lotuspsychje!info bleachbit | zap013:15
ubottuzap0: bleachbit (source: bleachbit): delete unnecessary files from the system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-1 (vivid), package size 255 kB, installed size 1965 kB13:15
MonkeyDustzap0  is the guest ubuntu?13:16
lotuspsychjetuxfan: not sure if i follow you...whats on your usb 3.0?13:16
Tekkkzbadbodh, daylimotionn works13:17
tuxfanlotuspsychje, I have worked with that usb 3.0 stick with that restored image for almost one month, it just suddenly stopped booting.13:17
zap0guest is Ubuntu.    Bleachbit can not be found in the search thing.13:17
Tekkkzim away now on windows to watch them, bye13:17
Tekkkzbadbodh, if you got it message me at martin@tekkkz.com13:18
lotuspsychjeTekkkz: must be that site that lacks13:18
MonkeyDustzap0  ok, try sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo aptitude purge ~c13:18
zap0ok13:18
tuxfanlotuspsychje, I had a usb 2.0 stick with an ubuntu installation, bootable. Then I made a backup of that stick, and restored the backup image to the new usb 3.0 stick. That worked fine, got it working for almost a month before it stopped booting.13:18
lotuspsychjetuxfan: i would try gparted reformat, and make a clean Iso on your usb 3.0 with ubuntu diskcreator13:19
Trismegistohi13:19
Trismegistowho wanna talk about artificial intelligence?13:19
lotuspsychje!ot | Trismegisto13:19
ubottuTrismegisto: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:19
tuxfanlotuspsychje, ok, reformat. What does a "clean ISO - with ubuntu disk creator" refer to - which tool? It is not a bootable CD installation I got there, it is a Ubuntu installation installed normally directly to the USB.13:20
Trismegisto#ai13:20
lotuspsychjetuxfan: ah you made an ubuntu portable on your stick?13:21
tuxfanlotuspsychje, yes13:21
lotuspsychjetuxfan: and on this 1 computer you cant boot to it13:21
tuxfanlotuspsychje, I could boot from the new usb 3.0 stick on any computer for almost a month, then it stopped booting only on one of the computers13:22
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lotuspsychjetuxfan: nothing changed on that computer recently?13:23
MonkeyDustTrismegisto  better go to ##science (that's double #)13:23
lotuspsychjetuxfan: if it boots fine on other pc's, its not your stick, but that pc that lacks somehow13:23
tuxfanlotuspsychje, that computer has had its own internal linux system updated, not sure if it messed up or changed Grub and then it became incompatible with the stick? I think the bootloader is on the hdd, but not sure13:24
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tuxfanlotuspsychje, no bios or firmware or hardware updates on that computer since last time that usb 3.0 stick booted fine13:24
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lotuspsychjetuxfan: wich distro on that pc?13:25
tuxfan14.04.213:25
lotuspsychjetuxfan: so weird13:25
tuxfanlotuspsychje, 14.04.213:25
gagaliciousi just realised what;'s the problem with my setting... i have two ports,  hdmi and vga... if hdmi is not present... the vga... is actually a second screen... i cant disable hdmi on my motherboard... so now what? :I13:25
tuxfanlotuspsychje, what is difficult in the troubleshooting, is that I dont "see" which parts affect each other, whether there is something in the grub system that may become incompatible with the usb after an update of the internal OS on the machine, for example.13:26
lotuspsychjetuxfan: maybe a fresh reinstall to your usb 3.0 destination would fix?13:26
lotuspsychjetuxfan: if your able to boot the stick, but get error warning, might be the stick also13:27
zap0what program do i use to find new software?13:27
tuxfanlotuspsychje, I am also curious as if this may be somewhat related to overheating or the power inside the usb 3 port, but then it should boot from the usb 2.0 port just fine on that same machine, which it dont anymore.13:27
kjeksHi, is there an utility to monitor system in short time, while i change some settings, and then, after im finished it will tell me which files were changed13:27
lotuspsychjetuxfan: i dont think so mate13:28
lotuspsychjezap0: you can use apt-cache search package13:28
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tuxfanlotuspsychje, oh, well, I guess I just have to reformat and reinstall and see if that works. Thanks for your time anyway, much appreciated! :-)13:28
zap0i've just found Ubuntu Software Centre13:29
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tuxfanzap0, what are you looking for - which types of software?13:29
lotuspsychjetuxfan: np mate, you can also test your stick with a tail -f /var/log/syslog and tail -f /var/log/dmesg and plug out plugin usb13:29
lotuspsychjetuxfan: to make sure its not a faulty usb13:30
tuxfanlotuspsychje, ok, interesting, what would that give in terms of output or new indicators?13:30
zap0trying to get the update to work....  it needs more space, so im tying to get  Bleachbit  to make more space13:30
lotuspsychjetuxfan: well it just shows syslog and dmesg info, but in realtime13:30
MonkeyDustkjeks  the 'watch' command can do some monitoring ... man watch for more information13:30
lotuspsychjetuxfan: this way you can watch what happens at the time you plugin something13:32
tuxfanlotuspsychje, ah, ok, great tip, thanx!13:33
lotuspsychje!info colortail | tuxfan or with syntax highlight colors13:34
ubottutuxfan or with syntax highlight colors: colortail (source: colortail): log colorizer that makes log checking easier. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.3-1 (vivid), package size 24 kB, installed size 144 kB13:34
gerihi how can i install opengl dev libs on ubuntu using apt-get, whats the name of the package?13:37
backbox111Hi all13:39
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backbox111is anyone here?13:39
lotuspsychjebackbox111: 1700 users are13:39
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backbox111i have just first time installed linux and checking all it's features. This chat is made for getting help from other users, or for any goals?13:41
MonkeyDustbackbox111  install ubuntu?13:41
MonkeyDustbackbox111  installed ubuntu?13:41
gagalicioushow can i force my desktop to use vga only? i have vga and hdmi and together, they are causing me problems.13:42
backbox111i installed BackBox it is a linux distribution based on ubuntu.13:42
zykotick9backbox111: #ubuntu is for ubuntu technical support, there are other channels on freenode for other topics, and other IRC networks...13:42
gagaliciousi only want it to use vga only and not hdmi. how can i do that? i'm using 14.0413:42
MonkeyDustbackbox111  backbox is not supported here13:43
backbox111what you mean in "supported", so i can't get any suport in these chat, yes?13:43
lotuspsychje!info arandr | gagalicious13:43
ubottugagalicious: arandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.7.1-1 (vivid), package size 66 kB, installed size 507 kB13:43
gagalicioushow do i do .... arandr?13:43
lotuspsychjegagalicious: sudo apt-get install arandr13:44
gagaliciousoh ok. thanks13:44
zykotick9gagalicious: if you currently can't use any GUI applications, i'm not sure how arandr will help...13:44
gagaliciouszykotick9 : i managed to see the gnome panel now13:45
lotuspsychjeoO13:45
zykotick9gagalicious: ahhh...13:45
gagaliciousthe odd thing is... i need to have both hdmi and vga connected! at the same time... and it will use hdmi default... while vga will be blank screen but MUST stay connected... else the hdmi wont display properly13:45
gagaliciousweird huh?13:45
gerihi how can i install opengl dev libs on ubuntu using apt-get, whats the name of the package?13:46
MonkeyDust!find opengl | geri13:46
ubottugeri: Found: libqt4-opengl, libqt4-opengl-dev, libqt5opengl5, libqt5opengl5-dev, python3-pyqt4.qtopengl, python3-pyqt4.qtopengl-dbg, mgltools-opengltk, gambas3-gb-gtk-opengl, gambas3-gb-gui-opengl, gambas3-gb-opengl (and 40 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=opengl&searchon=names&suite=vivid&section=all13:46
lotuspsychjegeri: wich ubuntu version, and what are you trying to do mate13:46
gagaliciouslotuspsychje :  so how can i... disable hdmi part manually and only allow it to detect / use vga? mentioned arandr... i checked but that doesnt seem to be what i want? it position the screen only?13:46
backbox111what you mean in "supported", so i can't get any suport in these chat, yes?13:46
geriis it not in mesa-dev ?13:46
gerilotuspsychje: ubuntu 14.0413:47
lotuspsychjebackbox111: as MonkeyDust suggested, backbox isnt supported here13:47
zykotick9gagalicious: check the "Outputs" menu, uncheck hdmi13:47
gagaliciouszykotick : what outputs menu? :I13:48
gagaliciousoic... arandr13:48
gagalicioushang on... :) it's really strange :D13:48
gagaliciousoh my god... i unchecked the wrong one... now i cant see anything... now what? does it restore itself? :I13:49
gagaliciousi dont even know what's lvsd or dvi... :I coz i only have vga and hdmi...13:50
gerilotuspsychje: ubuntu 14.0413:50
MonkeyDustgagalicious  what was your initial question? i wonder why you're struggling so hard13:50
lotuspsychjegeri: what are you trying to do?13:50
gagaliciousi can see the gnome desktop in full now with the panel...13:50
gagaliciousthe odd thing is... i need to have both hdmi and vga connected! at the same time... and it will use hdmi default... while vga will be blank screen but MUST stay connected... else the hdmi wont display properly13:50
gagaliciousthat's my question13:50
gagaliciousi just mingled with arandr....13:51
gagaliciousunchecked the wrong screen :D13:51
gagaliciousrebooted... hope it reverts13:51
gagaliciousregardless i still like ubuntu :)13:51
gerilotuspsychje: i need the opengl development headers e.g. ... gl.h ...13:51
gagaliciousi like the fact that u guys try to make it go fast.13:51
gagaliciousfaster than centos in terms of new things... though have to say... breaks fast as well... but u guys will fix it anyhow13:52
lotuspsychjegeri: apt-cache search yourpackage13:53
gerilotuspsychje: the question is which package will i need!?13:53
lotuspsychjegeri: we dont know what your doing, whats it for??13:53
geriopengl development13:53
gerigl.h is the opengl header13:54
MonkeyDustgeri  if you don't get an answer, ask directions in #ubuntu-app-devel13:54
TJ-geri: "apt-file search 'gl.h$' " -> "" ... nothing returned. Are you sure the header file is gl.h ?13:55
lotuspsychjegeri: can this help you further? http://askubuntu.com/questions/11378/how-do-i-set-up-an-opengl-programming-environment13:55
geriok thx13:56
gerii installed libglu1-mesa-dev13:56
TJ-geri: I find : mesa-common-dev:amd64: /usr/include/GL/gl.h13:57
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narkmanhey guys14:17
Jedi1VPN using ubuntu14:27
Jedi1any easy way ?14:28
ioria!info network-manager-pptp14:30
ubottunetwork-manager-pptp (source: network-manager-pptp): network management framework (PPTP plugin core). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.10.0-1ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 19 kB, installed size 114 kB (Only available for linux-any)14:30
ioria!info network-manager-vpnc14:31
ubottunetwork-manager-vpnc (source: network-manager-vpnc): network management framework (VPNC plugin core). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.10.0-1ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 15 kB, installed size 96 kB (Only available for linux-any)14:31
TJ-Jedi1: That's like asking "Ice cream anyone?" .... you need to specify the flavour14:32
B0g4r7About as easy as any other OS, I'd say.  VPN isn't always easy regardless of the platform, depending on what your use case is.14:32
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MonkeyDust!vpn | Jedi1 'easy' depends on how skilled you are14:38
ubottuJedi1 'easy' depends on how skilled you are: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN14:38
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Jedi1i tried14:38
Jedi1never was able to do a VPN14:39
Jedi1purchase something for digitalocean14:39
Jedi1sounded easy14:39
bulliconmy lsof count is more than ulimit14:42
bulliconwhat is the implication of that14:42
gagalicioushow can i make my arandr settings permanent?/j #webmin14:43
gagaliciousoops14:43
gagaliciousi got the answer... wrong type14:43
hplcwhat exists to help me sort out jitter / packetloss and such? more than the mtr and iperf i already use that is14:44
MonkeyDusthplc  start from the beginning, what brings you here... in one line14:47
hplcMonkeyDust, i pay for 100mbits line, but never ever see any better than 10-15 on any test at all, sometimes its so bad online media is not possible, and my connection is fiber.....all the way into my apartment14:49
hplcand all i run is ubuntu14:50
B0g4r7What logic leads you from low throughput to jitter and packet loss?14:52
hplcbecause i dont have a clue what to suspect at all14:53
geniiSuspect the crappiness of your ISP14:53
B0g4r7I'd start by eliminating pieces one at a time.   If there's a router, bypass it.  If you have another computer, try it and see if it's any different...14:54
hplchave done that14:54
hplci have fine 100mbits throughput in my home everywhere14:55
B0g4r7Do you know if other apartments in the bldg see the same thing?14:55
hplcno, have not asked anyone yet14:55
B0g4r7Does the internet service come with the building, or do you buy from the ISP directly?14:56
hplchence i wanted to "go one step outside my own door" with my testing (ping, mtr, iperf etc etc)14:56
hplcbuy from ISP14:56
TJ-hplc: is that the 100/100 mbits/s service ?14:57
B0g4r7Yeah, I'd contact the ISP.14:57
hplcmm.....no, i think it was cut 100/1014:57
hplc.....or was it 100/100?....not sure14:57
jin7hi. I have a problem in using Linux Mint 17 Cinnamon.  I can't save  the screen brightness.  My notebook has only one independent graphics card.14:59
jin7I can't save  the screen brightness.14:59
TJ-hplc: Are you using WiFi locally to connect to your PC? If so, at what speed. Have you tested the ISP connection using wired Ethernet from PC to router?14:59
geniihplc: To eliminate the cabling, try that machine at another location in the house where you get full speed on another machine15:01
TJ-hplc: the othe obvious question is... when doing speed tests you're not confusing 10MB/s (MegaBytes) with 10 Mb/s (Megabits) ?15:01
hplcTJ no wifi15:02
hplcno i understand 8 bits per byte15:03
B0g4r7There's really only so much you can do if you've eliminated the local hardware and user error.  Ping and iperf sound proper.15:06
B0g4r7I tend to 'ping -nOi .1 -s 1400 x.x.x.x'15:06
hplcB0g4r7, thanks, ill try it15:07
B0g4r7You'll need to use sudo for that .1 second interval.15:07
* boofsterb waves hello15:07
hplcthat and excel-sheet will have to be the setup15:08
B0g4r7If you see packet loss above maybe 0.2%, or jitter above 50ms, that's kinda bad.15:08
TJ-hplc: Did "no wifi" mean you're not using WiFi ?15:09
hplcTJ correct.......well apart for the samsung pad i watch movies with in bed in nights15:10
B0g4r7speedtest.net and pingtest.net can also be useful.15:10
hplcB0g4r7, its those that report 15Mbits15:10
TJ-hplc: And, have you asked your ISPs support department to run tests from their end... it is possible that they've misconfigured your service to be 10/10 rather than the 100/100 you ordered. Those are only configuration settings in the equiment15:10
B0g4r7I guess gather your evidence and then take it to the ISP.15:11
hplcB0g4r7, thats the idea, so far i tried calling15:11
hplcB0g4r7, they dont take me seriously, i need to show "real" raports15:11
tewardhplc: call them and say that "I think my configuration is out of date, please push a new configuration file to my devices please."15:12
B0g4r7And of course make sure you don't have something you're unaware of consuming in the apt sitting there consuming tins of bandwidth and skewing the results.15:13
teward^15:13
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B0g4r7That came out a little garbled, but you get the idea.15:13
tewardhplc: my other suggestion is to disconnect the rest of your equipment from the Internet, and hook your computer right up to the network / modem - then run the speed test15:13
hplcB0g4r7, yes i understand :)15:13
tewardand not wifi, i mean eathernet15:13
tewardethernet*15:13
hplcteward, i cant, every time i unplug that cable from the FDDI bridge, it takes 1 hour to get a new lease15:14
hplcdhcp lease15:14
hplcit should take seconds15:15
hplcbut they defend their stupidity with fierce hash language15:15
B0g4r7geez, that sounds kinda b0rked.15:15
MonkeyDusthplc  in which country are you?15:15
hplcswe15:15
hplcmain actor responsible for the net is called ITUX15:16
jacksonPHey folks, just curious but is there away to force my machine (ubu15.04 64bit desktop) to only work with a VPN and force the VPN to always be on (at least persistently trying to be if not already)?15:16
hplcthey are a**clowns15:16
jamesdjacksonP: you have to configure the vpn timeout to be long, and configure the client to auto-reconnect.15:17
B0g4r7If you keep bugging them maybe they'll do something.  Don't be an ass, but maybe call every week or two and try again.15:17
d9wl41anyone here using mono and c#?15:17
jamesdthe timeout is set by the server site you probably dont have any control over it15:17
sikiojacksonP: you also need to configure the firewall to only allow the vpn connection15:17
jacksonPjamesd: I don't see any of those options with network manager. Is there another client I should be using?15:18
hplcjamesd, yes the ITUX company who own the wires, the switches the hubs the what-not15:18
compdoc_does MIR allow you to connect remotely to the desktop?15:18
B0g4r7I work at an ISP, and that's how it goes with us.  The squeaky wheels get greased, and being polite helps.15:18
hplcbut they aggressivly claim it IS possible to release a loan in advance15:19
jacksonPsikio: I don't see a firewall app. is this also another app I need to install?15:19
hplcbut they wont say how15:19
* jamesd has to live in vpn hell... when on the vpn i can't access anything on my local network which includes, printer, and scanner, local fileserver and my personal esxi farm.... the only good thing is that it has a 24 hour timeout so if i dont need anything local i only have to re-sign on daily. 15:19
jacksonPah ha! I found the "always connect to firewall with this connection under the wired connection's options15:20
Nairwolfhi, I've just made a "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade". There is a package that I need to remove with "apt-get autoremove". How can I know how this package has been installed ? By which dependency ?15:20
sikiojacksonP: I'm talking about iptables, it's installed by default15:20
TJ-jamesd: You only need to ensure the PC has a route for your local network to have access to both.15:21
sikiothough it requires experience to do, but I assume there are guides for that15:21
canaima_hello15:21
flareaHello!15:21
jamesdTJ-: the vpn software enforces all traffic over the vpn, and its a security policy I can't change it or the vpn software fails.15:21
canaima_alguien habla ingles15:21
canaima_jajaja15:22
canaima_español15:22
TJ-jamesd: is that on Ubuntu?15:22
B0g4r7This one guy kept calling us again and again saying "my ping, it is too high".  We finally put up a dedicated radio just for him just so he'd stop calling.    He hasn't called since.15:22
flareaCan someone help me with Playonlinux? I read in the POL forums that it's possible to install and play The Sims 4... I bought the original cd some time ago, and I'd like to play it on my pc, now runs Ubuntu 15.0415:23
jamesdTJ-: mostly windows, but i do have a ubuntu virtual that needs vpn as well, if the routing table changes it drops the link and if i try to touch /etc/resolv.conf it deletes the file.15:23
jd_phello15:23
TJ-jamesd: I'd be throwing that out right away :)15:23
jd_palguien habla spanish15:24
pavlos!es| jd_p15:24
ubottujd_p: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:24
jamesdTJ-: new job only been working for 4 months, but the pay is great and job security, so I have to live with it. don't want to rock the boat.15:24
jd_pok15:24
TJ-jamesd: put the work services in a VM :)15:25
styler2goHello everyone. Does ubuntu log actions which user do?15:27
jamesdTJ-: i have one vm allready, but the laptop only has 8GB of ram.... putting windows in a vm will leave too little resources for anything else... so I do the next best thing... a 23" monitor + 27" monnitor connected to the laptop and a another 23" monitor connected to my personal desktop and a personal laptop... so I have enough resources... at my disposal...  only 24GB and 12 cores combined, before i even login to my esxi farm.15:27
TJ-styler2go: not normally. Only logins and sudo operations15:27
styler2gologins is enough15:28
styler2gowhere does it get logged?15:28
lotuspsychjestyler2go: history can show terminal commands15:28
jamesdstyler2go: /var/log/...  man last for details15:28
TJ-jamesd: I use a laptop with 8GB, 6 monitors over 3 GPUs ... and not run out of resources yet despite running VMs too15:29
NairwolfHow can I know when a package has been installed and why ?15:29
TJ-Nairwolf: "dpkg -l <packagename>"15:29
Nairwolfthanks15:29
styler2gothank you15:29
TJ-Nairwolf: Or also, "apt-cache policy <packagename>"15:29
jamesdTJ-: my job is like drinking from a fire hose... many tabs open, constant emails, and chat... i typically have 40 chrome tabs open on a slow day.15:30
styler2goalso, does ssh save the ip which a user connected from?15:30
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TJ-styler2go: "/var/log/auth.log" ... you'll need elevated prvlileges to access that file: "sudo less /var/log/auth.log"15:30
styler2gothank you15:30
Nairwolfwith dpkg I don't have acess to date of installation15:31
Nairwolfjust basic information about this package15:31
Nairwolfeven with apt-cache15:31
Nairwolfin fact, I've made apt-get dist-upgrade and it says me that I can remove libcrypto++915:31
ioriaNairwolf,  cat /var/log/apt/history.log and for deps   apt-cache depends <package>15:32
NairwolfAnd I would like to know why this package have been installed, and when15:32
Nairwolfapt-cache depends would be fine15:32
TJ-jamesd: I know how it is; I have 4 Firefox instances running with each dedicated to a different purpose, each on a different X screen. For heavy lifting I ssh into build servers15:32
Nairwolfto much dependecies, I'll try with history.log15:33
styler2gois it possible to copy files from chroot?15:33
TJ-styler2go: from outside the chroot yes15:33
styler2goTJ-: can you explain how?15:34
NairwolfHow can I combine "cat" and "grep" to find the word "libcrypto++9"15:34
Nairwolfmaybe with "|" no ?15:34
ubuntu655got a problem file that in windows says too long/invalid.. in ubuntu when using rm -rf * it says cannot remove 'gives filename here' no such file or directory; when i try to move it with sudo mv * / it says cannot stat 'gives filename here' no such file or directory... ls -i says cannot access and then gives the file name... I think one of the big problems is that it has \n newline characters in the name. any ideas?15:34
ioriaNairwolf,  yep15:34
NairwolfI've made "cat history.log* | grep libcrypto++9" but it's not enough. I've find a line with libcrypto, but I need to find the line before to understand15:35
zykotick9Nairwolf: just drop the cat, use "grep libcrypto++9 filename"15:35
Nairwolfok15:35
Nairwolfthanks15:35
jamesdubuntu655: easy anwser, use a gui based file manager, or install mc ... the hardcore way is bash autocomplete to get the file.. for extreme cases, use ls -i  to get inode and use find to remove the inode.15:35
ubuntu655jamesd ls -i doesn't work, nor does the autocomplete15:36
B0g4r7ubuntu655, have you fsck'd the fs in question to make sure it's all OK?15:37
TJ-ubuntu655 does the filename contain spaces or special characters?15:37
jamesdubuntu655: ls -i  gets you the inode, then you need to use  find  to find the inode and delete the file... if that doesn't work, fsck the filesystem15:37
ubuntu655jamesd: the file actually doesn't show up in the ubuntu file manager15:37
Nairwolfzykotick9 : it's the same. I've matched the word. But how to access to the line before the match ?15:37
NairwolfI'm reading man grep15:37
SchrodingersScatNairwolf: -B 1 shows one line before the match, -A for after, etc. check the man pages.15:37
Nairwolfyes, indeed ;)15:38
Nairwolfthank you ;)15:38
zykotick9Nairwolf: -C 2 might work for ya15:38
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NairwolfI have this "history.log.3-Start-Date: 2015-02-25  20:12:0115:39
Nairwolfhistory.log.3-Commandline: aptdaemon role='role-commit-packages' sender=':1.224'15:39
Nairwolfhistory.log.3:Install: libcrypto++9:amd64 (5.6.1-6, automatic), synergy:amd64 (1.4.12-3ubuntu1)15:39
Nairwolfhistory.log.3-End-Date: 2015-02-25  20:12:02"15:39
Nairwolfhow can you explain that ?15:39
Nairwolfcommandline: aptdaemon role='role-commit-packages'15:40
walkerhola15:42
zykotick9Nairwolf: sidenote, "aptitude why libcrypto++9" would say why it was installed15:42
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zykotick9Nairwolf: or "apt-cache rdepends libcrypto++9" might work15:43
Nairwolfoh, yes ;)15:44
Nairwolfthank you ;)15:44
Nairwolfit's work with rdepends15:44
B0g4r7When I go to System Settings/Bluetooth in the GUI, what package provides that UI?15:47
B0g4r7Using that UI I could not get my notebook to pair up with a particular dongle, where using the command-line tools, hciattach etc, it paired up just fine.15:49
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Guest4500hola15:51
Guest4500hola15:52
pavlos!es| Guest450015:54
ubottuGuest4500: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:54
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mekhamihttp://imgur.com/TlPJfAM anyone know what this red bar is on my terminal and how to get rid of it?16:13
mekhaminevermind if ound it16:14
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dhiliptghi16:37
dhiliptghi drone16:38
dhiliptgDrone`16:38
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styler2gois it possible to backup a mysql db without startign the mysql server?16:39
SchrodingersScatstyler2go: does mysqldump need mysql running?16:44
styler2goyes, sadly16:44
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hexafractionHi, I am being asked to do a partial upgrade on a machine that is running an LTS and no bleeding edge PPAs. I've given the repositories a few hours to catch up and updated but am still being asked to do a partial upgrade when I run the GUI software updater.16:47
Guest31983how can I jailbreak my phone from ubuntu?16:47
hexafractionSpecifically, if I do not elect to do the partial upgrade the updater believes that security updates for the kernel are not installable.16:47
lotuspsychje!warez | Guest3198316:48
ubottuGuest31983: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o16:48
Nairwolfit's not illegal to jailbreak your phone !16:49
Nairwolfas soon as you pay a phone, you can do whatever you want16:49
lotuspsychjeNairwolf: and its surely offtopic in this channel16:49
Nairwolfyou can also break it if you want16:49
Nairwolfyes, indeed16:49
hexafractionIt looks like my update mananger is trying to upgrade linux-tools-virtual-lts-utopic (even though I am on Trusty). Was that package installed by mistake to begin with?16:49
TJ-hexafraction: that's part of the hardware enablement stack16:50
hexafractionTJ-: OK, how would I go about getting these security updates then? My update manager can't figure out a dependency plan to use and has grayed them out.16:50
hexafractionI'd prefer not to be on an insecure set of packages for longer than I need to.16:51
TJ-hexafraction: what is the base ubuntu release, 12.04 ?16:52
hexafractionTJ-: Base is Trusty.16:52
ioriahexafraction, uname -r16:52
hexafraction3.13.0-53-generic16:53
DoraS I'm having trouble with Kubuntu.  It gives system error messages on bootup and then hangs and has to shut off with power button.  Syslog contains Oops errors.  Showed it to people at Linux meetup, and we all agree it is focusing on the video driver, which should be nvidia and is system driver nouveau.   I went in to make sure the nvidia drivers are installed and blacklist nouveau.   Cairo dock always gets caught in tainting downstream;16:54
TJ-hexafraction: Have you tried doing the upgrade via 'apt-get' on the command-line?16:54
DoraS iwth video driver issue.  But in my Mint install, which is on other HD, same computer, also was using the wrong driver, pgrep cairo yields one process - and on my Kubuntu install it yields 17.   Cairo dock is also loading straingly, may be loading something else as well and appears to load more than one instance.  Whta causing it and how to fix?  Could be part of my problem itself.  Cairo is mostly high fallutin graphics.16:54
hexafractionTJ-: Aptitude, yes. It ended up breaking pakcages and resolved it by uninstalling linux-tools16:56
hexafractionWhich, I'm afraid, might break something else.16:56
TJ-hexafraction: I'd use 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and see what it proposes to do16:57
hexafractionTJ-: That seemed to do the trick. Let me just manually review the proposed actions first.17:00
hexafractionI shouldn't have an issue if I keep a kernel but remove its corresponding linux-tools-foo-generic?17:00
TJ-hexafraction: depends on the .... depends :)17:01
hexafractionTJ-: OK, thanks. I know it's not breaking a dependency but I don't recall linux-tools-foo-generic being removed at a security upgrade before17:03
martin-2#moron17:04
TJ-hexafraction: is it being suggested for removal? maybe that's due to a "conflicts:" in some other package17:04
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elstudsynaptic will tell if any is broken17:06
hexafractionTJ-: Seems so. I'll just run the upgrade and restore a backup in the worst case. Thanks!17:08
elstudhexafraction try synaptic17:10
hexafractionsanguinololu17:12
hexafractionSoorry, wrong tab17:13
Rodrigo5244Is it me or the software center progress bar does not show properly anymore?17:18
datahead8888Hello, what is the preferred way to run Ubuntu in command only mode?17:18
datahead8888I need to run a memory intensive Python script, and I can't waste RAM with the desktop :)17:18
lotuspsychjedatahead8888: ubuntu server?17:18
datahead8888What do you mean by ubuntu server?17:19
datahead8888It runs the Unity desktop by default17:19
lotuspsychje!server | datahead888817:19
ubottudatahead8888: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server17:19
datahead8888Oh, I wasn't wanting to install a new distribution17:19
ioriadatahead8888, start Ubu in text mode17:20
datahead8888I assumed there is a preferred way to boot this way17:20
DoraSI'm having trouble with Kubuntu.  It gives system error messages on bootup and then hangs and has to shut off with power button.  Syslog contains Oops errors.  Showed it to people at Linux meetup, and we all agree it is focusing on the video driver, which should be nvidia and is system driver nouveau.   I went in to make sure the nvidia drivers are installed and blacklist nouveau.17:20
TJ-datahead8888: At the login greeter press Ctrl+Alt+F1, login at the VT, then type "sudo service lightdm stop" and you've got a command-line system17:20
datahead8888I figured that is preferrable over using commands to shut down the windowing system17:20
DoraS    Cairo dock always gets tainted downstream; cairo mostly is high end graphics.  But in my Mint install, which is on other HD, same computer, also was using the wrong driver, pgrep cairo yields one process - and on my Kubuntu install it yields 17.   Cairo dock is also loading straingly and looks as if it is running maybe 3 instances.  What cause and how fix?17:20
ioriadatahead8888, from grun . edit the line, remove slapsh and add text17:20
ioria*b17:20
SchrodingersScat!text | datahead888817:21
ubottudatahead8888: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode17:21
datahead8888Are you saying to type grun . ?17:21
ioriagrub :P17:22
datahead8888Oh17:22
CryptoSiDHi, when i try to install nagios3, it want to install apache2, how can i install nagios3 without installing apache2, im running nginx17:22
datahead8888It sounds like shutting off the lightdm server might be a really easy way after all17:22
datahead8888I need to fix my UEFI menu some time when I have more time to look into it, though17:22
datahead8888Thanks!17:24
CryptoSiDanyone?17:25
mekhamiwow how am i just now learning about Popcorn Time?17:27
mekhamisuch a nice application17:27
johnnyclocksBecause Popcorn Time's classified as a Trojan for Windows: http://www.shouldiremoveit.com/Popcorn-Time-118309-program.aspx17:28
johnnyclocksMay work fine in Linux.17:28
mekhamihmm.17:29
mekhamiworth.17:29
DoraSSo what would cause 17 instances of Cairo Dock?17:30
xanguaruning cairo dock 17 times¿17:31
DoraSIs anyone doing anything here but coming, leaving, and eating too many pancakes?!!!17:32
sylaris there a way to turn that off?17:32
DoraSTurn what off.  The forum?  I'm beginning to wonder why it is here.17:32
sylarno, the constant ...has joined/quit... messages17:33
darthanubisI turn the visibility of join/parts off17:34
xanguathat depends on your client sylar17:34
johnnyclocksBut I love pancakes. ;_;17:34
DoraSI'm starting to wonder if people have their computers set to join and quit them from this forum, repeatedly, nonstop.  It isn't like anyone often says anything, still less answer my question.17:34
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darthanubischannel not forum :)17:35
CloxDammit, everything's registered on this server17:35
SchrodingersScat!ot17:35
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ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:35
DoraSJohnyclocks, excuse me, I'd be very happy you love pancackes, if I happened to care.  I've asked the same question four times in an hour and noone has responded.17:35
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Guest82448one sec, off to find a nick that isn't taken that I can remember/isn't stupidly long17:35
DoraSEverything is registered to conceal the absolute dead silence on any subject other than pancakes?17:36
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sylarwho's up for a survey? what's the best hack/feature/program you use?17:40
JonnyCloxTerminal.17:40
sylarfor me it's gnome-do. I'm not a big mouse user,17:41
JonnyClox:P17:41
sylarJonnyClox except that :D17:41
JonnyCloxProbably Kdenlive, in all seriousness. Good video editor.17:43
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cyborg_hey all17:47
Ryeinwhat is a good way to remote into an ubuntu machine17:54
Ryein?17:54
Ryeinsomething that is fast17:54
tewardRyein: remote into how?17:55
tewardRyein: like, to see a desktop GUI, or a command line?17:55
SchrodingersScatRyein: ssh17:55
Ryeinteward, GUI17:55
Ryeinteward, i tried xrdp but it doesn't work with Unity17:55
oxymor00nOr mosh (for CLI)17:55
Ryeinany idea?17:57
Ryeini want to login to the current session17:57
Ryeinnot start a new session as well17:57
Ryeinyou can use a 2d WM but i was hoping to just use Unity17:57
tewardRyein: VNC might work if you turn on desktop sharing...17:58
tewardno guarantee17:58
astroboywho know the site wich provide free vps? want to learn ssh using my ubuntu17:58
Ryeinteward, ok ill try17:59
tewardastroboy: that's outside the scope of here18:00
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sikioRyein: teamviewer?18:00
astroboysorry, just ask, maybe one of you have some suggestions18:01
tewardastroboy: free VPSes maybe through Amazon AWS free tier but i don't recommend free18:01
tewardever18:01
x4Dx5Aastroboy: if you just want to learn how ssh works why don't you setup an ubuntu lamp server?18:01
oxymor00nwhat's there to learn about ssh?18:02
Ryeinsikio, yeah i might have to use team viewer18:02
Ryeinsikio, just not a fan of a closed source remote tool18:02
ioria!info x11vnc18:03
ubottux11vnc (source: x11vnc): VNC server to allow remote access to an existing X session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1.2 (vivid), package size 914 kB, installed size 2195 kB18:03
igfdjskgjsdlgkid im going to fuck your dad18:03
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darthanubisRyein, checkout x2go18:04
astroboycan we check list of installed apps from terminal?18:05
ioriadpkg -l18:06
n-stis there a backport ppa of apt 1.0.7 (or higher) for precise or trusty? i'm affected by https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=774815 and the only way to fix that seems to be to update apt…18:07
ubottuDebian bug 774815 in apt "php-monolog: Versionned Provides field" [Wishlist,Fixed]18:07
mach20xAnyone have the latest on Vivid's network manager bug?18:09
darthanubiswhat bug?18:09
mach20xWhen using a wired and wireless connection there is packet loss, due to the lack of priority assignment18:10
darthanubiswhats the bug#?18:10
mach20xhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/143633018:11
ubottuUbuntu bug 1436330 in network-manager (Ubuntu Vivid) "Network Manager doesn't set metric for local networks any more, causing connection issues" [Critical,Fix committed]18:11
darthanubisnot having any issues like that here18:11
mach20xI sure am. I have to turn off the wireless to get a decent connection, and even then it doesn't seem as stable as it was in Utopic18:12
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mach20xAnd my rear motherboard mounted audio jack doesn't want to produce sound for me either18:13
mach20xI got an HDMI audio channel working in the mean time, but I want to resolve this issue (bugging me :P)18:14
darthanubissounds like a mobo going bad, not one network bug18:14
darthanubisI have three machines all running perfectly18:15
darthanubiswith 15.0418:15
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darthanubisone wifi'd laptop18:15
mach20xMy wireless is run via usb dongle18:17
ioriamine too, maybe some module issue18:17
benediktI just bought a new ThinkPad T450s (with Intel HD 5500 graphics) and when I'm playing videos in VLC this happens: http://i.imgur.com/fb4kF4l.png18:18
mach20xserious issues when both are connected actively, and they disappear when I disconnect the wireless (haven't isolated it physically)18:18
chebitpretty girl !18:18
chebitnice :p18:18
mach20xI don't see this as a layer one issue18:19
benediktThis appears to only happen in VLC. And i'm completely stumped, I've never even run into a similar problem before.18:19
chebitinterlaceado18:19
chebityou need configure vlc18:19
chebit:)18:19
cura95asd18:20
benediktchebit: thats about as helpful as "you need to fix your computer".18:20
benediktif you don't know or cannot explain what the problem is, or how to troubleshoo; please refrain from answering.18:21
mach20xanother oddity worth mentioning is when I queue the updater, it tells me to check my network connection, even though I am able to run other network activity at the same time without intertuption18:21
DJonesbenedikt: You probably need to explain what the problem is, the screenshot looks fine for a file downloaded from the internet with hardcoded subtitles18:21
benediktDJones: fair enough. The problem is that the image is blurry, subtitles unreadable (they are readable in other players). the video rendering isn't behaving as expected.18:22
benediktDJones: also, subtitles are not hardcoded18:23
mach20xis this the latest? network-manager_0.9.10.0-4ubuntu16_amd64.deb libnm-util2_0.9.10.0-4ubuntu16_amd64.deb18:24
chebitbenedikt: check setting vlc :)18:24
DJonesbenedikt: From the screenshot, that looks perfectly clear18:24
benediktDJones: here is a screenshot from Parole: http://i.imgur.com/bCopnQC.png18:24
benediktsame file at the same position18:24
DJonesbenedikt: Still looks clear, just no subtitles18:25
chebitI do not speak English, and write that wrong, sorry18:25
chebit:(18:25
chebitmy computter it's fine , thanks :)18:25
benediktDJones: the parole screenshot is clear, the VLC screenshot is not (but parole doesnt want to play the .srt file). Compare the eyebrows on the woman or the hair.18:26
chebitwoman it's pretty :)18:26
chebitcheck setting the vlc, restar vlc ;)18:27
gp5stlet's say I owned an A-A USB cable, for reasons. Is there anyway to connect one computer to another in such a way that I could get a serial terminal or network between them?18:28
JethroTuxI've got some problems with blueman when tranferring video files from cell phone to computer. Everything's ok with photos, but I can't send video files. It works if mounting cell phone through obex, but transfers are extremely slow. Also I can send if I "untrust" device on bluetoothctl. Any ideas?18:29
jarlopezey guys. I'm running very low on disk space on my Linux partitions ( < 1GB left). What's the safest/best way to free up some of the space currently used on my Windows partition and allocate it for Linux instead?18:29
chebitcheck with other video18:29
ioriagp5st, i guess so. but you nedd a bridge usb cable18:29
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chebitit may be some codec18:30
lotuspsychje!info gparted | jarlopez18:33
ubottujarlopez: gparted (source: gparted): GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.19.0-2 (vivid), package size 528 kB, installed size 1868 kB18:33
jarlopezlotuspsychje: Thanks, I have gparted. I suppose my main question is can I extend my /home partition without requiring to back it up?18:35
lotuspsychje!home | jarlopez18:35
ubottujarlopez: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving18:35
jarlopezHmm lotuspsychje, it already has its own partition.18:36
lotuspsychjejarlopez: there's a trick with liveusb/dvd to extend partitions, didnt do myself18:40
eggggshello all18:43
lotuspsychjeeggggs: welcome, what can we do for you?18:43
Bashing-omjarlopez: Perhaps a  better option is general house cleaning, and in this is removing old no longer needed kernels ?? That operation frees up disk space .18:45
jarlopezBashing-om: Thanks, I've already cleaned up as much as I could. The main reason I'd like to extend the root and home partitions is that I only gave them the bare minimum when trying this distro. Now I've settled in and am finding that I need more disk space18:46
Bashing-omjarlopez: k; Gparted, as advised, to the resue .18:47
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: was it not chroot over the livecd with gparted to extend?18:48
muaazci have a problem running the game Urban Terror18:48
muaazccan someone help me18:48
lotuspsychjemuaazc: whats your question mate?18:48
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: I can not say that 'chroot' with a liveDVD is pertinent. Got to work on partitions in an unmounted conditiopn . huh ?18:49
lotuspsychjeright18:50
muaazci have a monitor connected to my laptop because my laptops screen is half broken. whenever i run the game urban terror , the game opens up on my laptop instead on my monitor and i dont know why or how to get it back on my monitor .18:51
jarlopezThat makes sense. Thanks, Bashing-om and lotuspsychje, I'll put gparted live on a USB stick and take it from there18:51
muaazclotuspsychje: read up please18:51
lotuspsychjemuaazc: maybe set your 2nd screen as default with xrandr?18:52
lotuspsychjemuaazc: ubuntu might think you still have 2 active screens18:52
muaazclotuspsychje: how do i completely disable my one screen? or what do i do18:53
lotuspsychje!xrandr | muaazc18:53
ubottumuaazc: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1218:53
MonkeyDustmuaazc  I have an external monitor too, due to a broken laptop screen... go to sysrtem settings > displays and disable your laptops screen ... i don't know if your game configures displays, tho18:53
muaazcMonkeyDust: It is disabled . thats why i dont know why its not working properly18:55
MonkeyDustmuaazc  maybe a setting in the game options18:55
muaazcMonkeyDust: i cant see the game to configure the settings, Is there any other way18:56
Bashing-omjarlopez: On a liveDVD(USB) grparted is installed by default .18:57
MonkeyDustmuaazc  more complicated display settings, maybe, with the command line, but that's above my head18:57
jarlopezBashing-om: Ah, thanks. Slightly off-topic: any advice on mounting an eSata drive and backup up my /home partition?18:59
Bashing-omjarlopez: My method, mount the target partition, and 'rsync' the files to the target backup .19:00
Bashing-om!rsync | jarlopez19:01
ubottujarlopez: rsync is a fast remote file copy and synchronization program - For more see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync19:01
jarlopezBashing-om: Thank you19:01
Bashing-omjarlopez: Just my bit to try and help :) .19:02
ScottyKgreetings! I've got a fresh install of Edubuntu 14.0.2, with all updates. When I try to log in, there is a brief flash, and I can see the 'system error" dialog, then it kicks me out to the log in. How can I boot into the command line?19:03
lotuspsychje!recovery | ScottyK19:04
ubottuScottyK: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode19:04
jarlopezScottyK: Or switch to a TTY using Ctrl + Alt + F119:04
ScottyKthe TTY mode is what I needed, thanks!19:05
zykotick9s/TTY/VT/19:05
karstensragewhere is standard place to put security related things for a custom app19:06
jarlopezzykotick9: Could you explain the difference?19:06
zykotick9jarlopez: technically, ANY terminal VT/Xorg is a TTY.  VT Virtual Terminal is the ctrl+alt+fX terminals.19:07
Prab_iuii19:07
jarlopezzykotick9: Ah, I see. Thanks19:07
Prab_hello, anyone there?19:07
Prab_i need an urgent help19:07
lotuspsychje!ask | Prab_19:07
ubottuPrab_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:07
karstensrageis /usr/lib/security just for java?19:08
Prab_okay, guys i can install apache2, php, mysql-server and phpmyadmin, when i do it keep says Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done phpmyadmin is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.19:09
lotuspsychjekarstensrage: can you explain what you are trying to do?19:09
Prab_i mean i cant install19:09
karstensragelotuspsychje: i have a custom app that needs client certificates, i need to put those somewhere19:09
lotuspsychjekarstensrage: maybe a question for the #ubuntu-devel guys?19:10
TJ-karstensrage: X5089 certificates usually go under /etc/ssl/certs/19:10
ioriayep, but there is a link somewhere in the java folders19:11
TJ-karstensrage: but with Java certificates depend on keystore configured19:12
YamakasYnasty, I get this on a lv extend  Couldn't create temporary archive name.19:14
TJ-YamakasY: what's the exact command you're issuing that reports that?19:15
YamakasYTJ-: lvextend -l +100%FREE /dev/vg00/home19:15
TJ-YamakasY: try " lvextend -l +100%FREE vg00/home"19:16
YamakasYTJ-: same issue19:17
ioria/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/lib/security19:18
sixunhuitIs there an equivalent of the Marvel Unlimited Apps (IOS and Android) on Ubuntu? The one on their website is flawed.19:19
TJ-YamakasY:  so vg00 has an LV called "home" ... not "Home" or other spelling?19:19
cryptodan_laptopu need to setup persistence on the nfs mounts19:19
MonkeyDustsixunhuit  what's Marval Unlimited Apps?19:19
YamakasYTJ-: yap19:19
sixunhuitNetflix for Marvel comics.19:20
sixunhuitMarvel*19:20
sixunhuitsorry for that.19:20
karstensrageTJ-: that sounds good19:20
ioriacacerts -> /etc/ssl/certs/java/cacerts19:20
MonkeyDustsixunhuit  is this useful http://www.howtogeek.com/130372/how-to-watch-netflix-on-ubuntu-with-the-netflix-desktop-app/19:21
TJ-YamakasY: the usual cause of that error is a LVM hostname with a "/" character in it19:22
YamakasYTJ-: nope, just home19:23
YamakasYvgscan gives me size19:23
YamakasYbut, when I boot my system my mtab is empty also19:23
sixunhuitNot really. I used Netflix as a comparisson. The official app. is https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marvel.unlimited&hl=en19:24
sixunhuitMaybe an android emulator would do. Are there stable ones?19:24
TJ-YamakasY: what does "sudo lvdisplay -v vg00/home" report for "LV Creation host, time" ?19:24
TJ-YamakasY: Hmmm... mtab empty? that isn't going to help... are the LVs active?19:25
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YamakasYTJ-: I can access all my data and my lv's are displayed well19:26
sixunhuitIs Genymotion stable on 14.04?19:27
TJ-YamakasY: Do the LVs have nodes in the device-mapper (/dev/mapper/) ?19:27
YamakasYTJ-: yes19:27
TrfsrfrHow do I export my Firefox bookmarks in  another computer?19:28
TJ-YamakasY: well, let us know what the LV Creation host is reported as19:28
fishcookerjust sync it Trfsrfr19:28
fishcookerwith your mozilla account19:28
Trfsrfrim unfamiliar with sync. I have heard about a json thing...19:29
lotuspsychjeTrfsrfr: backup your bookmarks in json then export it to pc219:31
YamakasYTJ-: home ?19:31
Trfsrfrhow do I backup to json19:32
YamakasY  LV Path                /dev/vg00/home19:32
YamakasY  LV Name                home19:32
YamakasY  VG Name                vg0019:32
YamakasYTJ-: ^^19:32
MonkeyDustsixunhuit  there's no android emulator, but several tutorials's suggest vbox to run android19:32
fishcookeri want route incoming mail from certain network let say 123.0.0.0/24 to old mailserver 10.10.10.1:25 route to new mail server 10.10.10.1:25.. how to do that on iptables?19:32
lotuspsychjeTrfsrfr: goto firefox bookmarks/show all bookmarks/backup19:33
xanguaTrfsrfr: if you open the bookmark menu, you can see the bookmark manager, open it and export it; you can also just copy your firefox profile directory19:33
Trfsrfrokay gimme a sec19:34
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TJ-YamakasY: 'lvdisplay -v' should report the Creation host too19:34
TJ-YamakasY: "LV Creation host, time ..."19:35
TJ-YamakasY: if that is empty then I'm not sure what's causing the issue. A reboot might clear it.. also, have you tried extending the LV by *less than* 100% ?19:36
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TrfsrfrOkay, I copied the json file from my other pc, put it in my new one, went to restore, restored it, it gave a warning that said it will replace all nookmarks, I said okay, restarted firefox and they are not there. What did I do wrong?19:37
TrfsrfrI have a json file and a html file on a thumb drive in my new pc19:38
x4Dx5Afishcooker: take a look at this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/iptables-and-mail-server-434107/19:38
YamakasYTJ-: it;s the host which runs19:38
lotuspsychjeTrfsrfr: did you check the right folder, sometimes their deeper inside a folder19:38
x4Dx5Afishcooker: you need to do two things 1. allow the traffic 2. configure NAT for each mail server19:38
TJ-YamakasY: That error is caused by a problem with the hostname... are then any non ASCII characters in it?19:39
xangua(14:33:41) xangua: Trfsrfr: if you open the bookmark menu, you can see the bookmark manager, open it and export it; you can also just copy your firefox profile directory19:39
xanguaif you are looking for a specific file, places.sqlite has your bookmars & history19:39
YamakasYTJ-: only a -19:40
TrfsrfrI'm not so savvy...I have the new bookmark files on a thumbdrive in my new pc, but they dont import. Should I not be using restore?19:41
IndrewCan somebody explain me why my system makes 'dhclient: DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.178.26 on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67'?19:42
IndrewThought that a DHCP request is made from 0.0.0.0?19:42
lotuspsychjeTrfsrfr: did you click 'unsorted bookmarks'?19:43
TrfsrfrWait, this is weird. When I click the bookmark button at the top of the page and drag down to 'bookmarks toolbar' they are there, but they dont show up at the top of my browser...19:43
x4Dx5Afishcooker: you want to do something like iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p TCP -i eth0 --dport 25 -j DNAT \19:43
x4Dx5A--to-destination 10.10.10.1019:43
x4Dx5Aand19:44
x4Dx5Aiptables -A FORWARD -p TCP -i eth0 -d 10.10.10.10 --dport 25 j ACCEPT19:44
TJ-YamakasY: Looking at the source-code; that error is fired from the function lib/format_text/archive.c::archive_vg() and it suggests a temporary VG is created19:44
lotuspsychjeTrfsrfr: the bookmarks have several categories on your left..check them all19:44
x4Dx5Afishcooker: i think this is close to what you are asking http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/forward-smtp-to-another-server-suse-with-iptables-412501/19:44
Trfsrfrokay, they are in the bookmarks toolbar folder in the bookmarks menu. How do I move them?19:45
TJ-YamakasY: You are running these commands as root? If so, check that the /var/ or /tmp/ file systems are writeable19:46
lotuspsychjeTrfsrfr: when you add a bookmark, you can choose wich destination19:47
Trfsrfrlotuspsychje, apparently I chose the wrong destination...19:47
TJ-YamakasY: maybe it's in /dev/ as its a VG name19:47
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lotuspsychjeTrfsrfr: there is a nice firefox addon called 'speed dial' to have your most fav bookmarks when you start19:48
xanguaor you can just use the speed dial integrated to firefox19:48
TrfsrfrOkay, I got it. I just cut and pasted from the library. Thanks for your help!19:49
B0g4r7Bah.  Why does this box swap so friggin much with 12GB of ram?19:50
lotuspsychjeB0g4r7: tweak with swappiness and install preload19:50
lotuspsychje!swap | B0g4r719:50
ubottuB0g4r7: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info19:50
B0g4r7Hmm.  Cool.  I wasn't expecting a srs answer.19:51
lotuspsychjeB0g4r7: were are always serious here mate19:51
lotuspsychjeB0g4r7: you can also cleanup unwanted files with bleachbit,disable unwanted services at startup, use lightweight packages19:53
B0g4r7Ah, that's half my problem.  I got the swap priority backwards, so it's preferring the spinning disk over the SSD.19:57
lotuspsychjeB0g4r7: wich ssd do you have?19:58
B0g4r7Something old and small.  /proc/scsi/scsi says INTEL SSDSA2CT0419:59
B0g4r740 geebees.19:59
lotuspsychjeB0g4r7: small ssd's can be fast, thats your ubuntu main disk?20:00
B0g4r7ATM it's swap and nothing else.20:00
lotuspsychjeB0g4r7: i would use it as ubuntu boot hd, and use other drives as storage20:00
B0g4r7Yeah, this box box needs redoing in some ways.20:01
lotuspsychjeB0g4r7: and tweak swappiness from your ssd also20:01
lotuspsychjeB0g4r7: with 12 gig ram + ssd as main ubuntu drive, you will rocknroll20:01
wisdomiais TJ- my lord and savior still here20:01
wisdomiaanyone want to take a moment to help me with Ubuntu 14.04 SSL cert shit20:02
B0g4r7If I weren't so lazy I'd get this server built with a nice raid of spinning disks + SSD bcache and netboot the station from that with 3x gigabit eth links.20:03
lotuspsychjewisdomia: best is to ask your issue in the channel so others can readup20:03
MonkeyDustwisdomia  this is the support channel, simply ask your question20:03
Der_Doktorhi20:04
wisdomiaI am using DigitalOcean and followed their steps to add a GoDaddy SSL cert to my Droplet, I followed everything exactly how they said to do it and there is still no HTTPS connection. port 443 is listening and I configured the config files correctly and I am at a total standstill20:04
wisdomiawhen I connect to the HTTPS from Mozilla it gives me this error "An error occurred during a connection to lolsaloon.com. SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length. (Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long) "20:05
Raffi'm in doubt with some things here about the snmp and mib, i've created a mib file http://pastebin.com/gN4azguZ , and a script http://pastebin.com/uLNWHKe7 , to get the cpu temperature20:07
Raffbut i dont know if its correct, and i want to know how to link the script to the mib file20:07
n-stwisdomia: depending on what webserver you're using, the folks in #httpd (the apache httpd channel) might be able to help you. in any case, what do your webserver config files look like now?20:08
YamakasYTJ-: nope20:11
wisdomiawell I edited the 000-default.conf file to contain the location of the key/cert, then I read online to edit ssl-config.conf as well but neither worked20:11
YamakasYnot in /dev20:11
TJ-YamakasY: does root have write permissions in /dev/ ? can you touch a file there?20:11
wisdomiayay TJ- is back maybe he can help me again lmao20:11
YamakasYTJ-: yap no issue20:12
TJ-wisdomia: Only if you bisect the kernels for me to find the PCI bug :)20:12
n-stwisdomia: the error you're getting looks a lot like your webserver is serving plain http on the https port20:12
wisdomiaI have a VirtualHost 80 redirect to the HTTPS if that may cause it, and I edited the default VirtualHost 80 to 443 (as the tut said)20:13
TJ-YamakasY: did you try extending for less than 100% ... a lot less?20:14
n-stwisdomia: can you pastebin all files you've changed (perhaps scrub any sensitive information in there first)?20:14
YamakasYTJ-: nope, can try20:14
wisdomiaYeah give me a sec20:15
YamakasYTJ-: oeh that works20:15
B0g4r7wisdomia, you can navigate to http://myhost:443 to verify if that's what is happening.20:15
n-stB0g4r7: … if your browser isn't too smart for its own good and prevents you from using http on port 443 ;)20:16
YamakasYTJ-: erm, nah does not work, but it says it has been extended20:16
wisdomiaB0g4r7, it just redirects me to my https:// and gives the same error20:16
TJ-YamakasY: what does "does not work" mean? some error message?20:16
B0g4r7wisdomia, and if you navigate to http://www.google.com:443 in the same browser what happens?20:18
wisdomiahttp://pastebin.com/B4fArX9e here is my current 000-default.conf20:18
YamakasYTJ-: nope, but on vgscan I get error messages about the archive file now too20:18
wisdomiait takes me to google.com:443 and some images are not loading20:18
B0g4r7Hmm.  Inconclusive.20:19
n-ston an unrelated subject, i'm having trouble compiling apt 1.0.9 (from the vivid source package) on precise: http://pastebin.com/NKLc3FXf -- i already added -fPIC to the LDFLAGS as suggested, but it seems it was already in there (and doesn't fix the problem). what else am i missing there?20:19
MonkeyDustwisdomia  with images, the difference between tcp and udp comes to mind...  does that make sense?20:21
wisdomiaAfraid not, not big into internet protocols ^.^20:21
YamakasYTJ-: hmm no clue20:22
YamakasYTJ-: /home is really on 100% usage20:22
n-sti checked, wisdomia's server return 301 and https://domain when you navigate to http://domain:44320:22
n-sts/return/&s/20:22
n-stwisdomia: are you sure you've enabled the ssl module? (a2enmod ssl; service apache2 restart)20:23
wisdomiayes the module is enabled20:23
B0g4r7wisdomia, any errors shows in the apache logs?20:23
wisdomiatrying to access them now, are thye not locaed in /var/log/apache2/error_log? it says no such file20:24
x4Dx5Awisdomia: the default location for apache2 error logs is /var/log/apache2/error.log20:25
n-stwisdomia: ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error.log, so probably /var/log/apache2/error.log20:25
x4Dx5Awisdomia: but the location is configured in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini20:25
wisdomiaWE HAVE CONNECTION BOYZ20:26
oraclexzfdoes anyone know what bindsym is in i3 wm?20:26
wisdomiaI did "a2ensite default-ssl" and now when I navigate to my "https" it shows the green check but says 500 internal server error20:27
oraclexzfnevermind ;P20:27
x4Dx5Awisdomia: can you go into the php.ini file and set  error_reporting = E_ALL | E_STRICT20:28
x4Dx5Athen try again and check the error log20:28
wisdomiait is already set like that in php.ini20:29
x4Dx5Awhat does your log say when you go to the site and get the 500 error?20:30
wisdomiahaving a hard time accessing the log lmao give me a sec20:30
wisdomiaok20:31
x4Dx5Ais your site running on a shared ip or did you assign it a dedicated static address?20:32
Corey84for a mailserver  what packages do i need?20:32
wisdomiaI am not quite sure, it is DigitalOcean and I have a static address so I am assuming that20:33
wisdomiathis appears in the log a few times20:34
wisdomia[Sat Jun 13 16:26:00.013503 2015] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 2671] AH00163: Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.5.9-1ubuntu4.4 OpenSSL/1.0.1f configured -- resuming normal operations [Sat Jun 13 16:26:00.013533 2015] [core:notice] [pid 2671] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'20:34
lotuspsychje!mailserver | Corey8420:34
ubottuCorey84: Ubuntu supports the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) and provides mail server software of many kinds. You can install a basic email handling configuration with the "Mail server" task during installation, or with the "tasksel" command. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/email-services.html20:34
YamakasYyes the ubuntu phone is coming!20:36
x4Dx5Ado you have a paste for httpd.conf ?20:36
tomreynapache2ctl -S20:38
wisdomiamy httpd.conf just contains a ServerName localhost20:38
wisdomiawhich was something I was doing last night when my hostnames were all fucked20:39
wisdomiaok when i navigate to my hostname:443 it gives me "Bad request"20:41
wisdomiawhich it wasn't doing before20:41
x4Dx5Awisdomia: so when you go to hostname:443 it will redirect to https://hostname which is correct. if you don't have anything in your httpd.conf file though it won't work.20:42
x4Dx5Awisdomia: idk if you want to but webmin will give you a web interface to manage your apache sites20:43
Ben64!webmin20:43
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.20:43
x4Dx5Ait will also create httpd.conf files for you20:43
tomreynnoooes, don't recommend that20:43
wisdomiait redirected me to https:// before but now it says bad requesr20:43
x4Dx5ABen64: thanks i didn't know that20:43
x4Dx5ABen64: what replacements are available for webmin?20:44
wisdomiaReason: You're speaking plain HTTP to an SSL-enabled server port. Instead use the HTTPS scheme to access this URL, please.20:44
Ben64x4Dx5A: can't recall the name right now...20:44
Ben64thought the trigger included it too20:44
x4Dx5Awisdomia: right - so your redirect looks like it stopped working. did you change something?20:45
TJ-x4Dx5A: I've been using webmin/virtualmin on Debian and Ubuntu servers for a decade and not hit a single issue so far... I think that warning is based on issues back in 2004ish that were fixed back then20:45
wisdomiaAll I did was enable site default-ssl20:46
x4Dx5Adid you restart apache?20:46
TJ-x4Dx5A: Certainly, non-one has ever been able to show me an issue20:46
wisdomiaand thatr20:46
zykotick9!wfm | TJ-20:46
ubottuTJ-: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/20:46
wisdomiaI did restart apache20:46
TJ-wisdomia: You've installed the certs and enabled the SSL engine?20:46
wisdomiaYes20:46
x4Dx5ATJ-: good to know bc i have been too and didn't hear of any issues. not saying there won't be in the future so i'm glad it was pointed out. thanks for the input.20:47
wisdomiaand now the https:// works and shows the green check but gives me an internal server error. Also the hostname:443 doesn't redirect to https:// anymore20:47
TJ-zykotick9: no, not just 'works for me' - if you're going to tell people it isn't compatible at least provide factual evidence rather than throwing out vague aspersions20:48
x4Dx5Awisdomia: just to be sure can you run through https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts and make sure you araen't missing things in your configuration?20:49
TJ-wisdomia: You're redirecting port 80 connections to port 443 ?20:49
x4Dx5ATJ-: yeah wisdomia had a redirect in the conf20:49
lotuspsychjeTJ-: webmin has alot of exploits to abuse20:50
zykotick9TJ-: #debian's webmin factoid is more harsh, pasted to http://paste.ubuntu.com/11710373/20:50
TJ-wisdomia: RewriteCond %{HTTPS} off               RewriteRule (.*) https://%{HTTP_HOST}%{REQUEST_URI}20:51
wisdomiaYeah everything was setup that way20:51
TJ-zykotick9: yeah, like I said, that is from Date: Sun, 18 Dec 200520:52
wisdomiaYes TJ- I have "<VirtualHost *:80> ServerName hostname Redirect permanent / https://hostname/ </VirtualHost>"20:52
wisdomiaand that is above my VirtualHost *:443 in the 000-default.conf file (as the tut stated)20:52
YamakasYis there no lvm gui in ubuntu anymore ?20:53
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lotuspsychje!lvm | YamakasY20:53
ubottuYamakasY: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto20:53
tomreynlvm gui? i don't recall one20:54
TJ-wisdomia: set "RewriteLog /home/<USER>/logs/rewrite.log" and "RewriteLogLevel 9" and the check out the rewrite.log20:54
tomreynlevel 3 is more than enough20:54
B0g4r7I think I recall seeing an lvm gui waaaay back on aix.20:55
tomreyn...and www-data won't be able to write there most likely20:55
tomreynB0g4r7: maybe redhat has one, not sure20:56
tomreyndid aix even have LVM?20:56
wisdomiaoh shit I got it20:56
x4Dx5Awisdomia: what was it?20:56
wisdomiabut the redirect doesn't work now when i go to the non HTTPS site, and the key is Yellow not green20:57
wisdomiaI changed __default__ in "default-ssl.conf" to my hostname20:57
tomreynB0g4r7: that's probably an entirely different software isnt it? at leats v1 vs v220:57
YamakasYtomreyn: there was system-config-lvm in the past20:57
B0g4r7Probably.  This was in 1997 or so.20:57
x4Dx5Awisdomia: i'm not sure what you mean they key is yellow not green. do you mean certificate validation in your web browser?20:57
tomreynwisdomia: you shouldn't touch nor need to touch the default sites at all.20:58
wisdomiaok the yellow check is because it is loading non https images which I can fix later20:58
wisdomiabut the redirect no longer works, I am going to add the redirect in my default-ssl config20:58
x4Dx5Awisdomia: yeah so that is just a warning you have mixed content20:58
wisdomiatomreyn sometimes you gatta just go balls deep in this computer shit20:58
lotuspsychje!language | wisdomia20:59
ubottuwisdomia: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList20:59
wisdomiaapologies20:59
wisdomiaballs deep in computer stuff20:59
* EriC^^ doesn't like getting electrocuted21:00
wisdomiaalright boys after 9 hours I finally fixed it21:00
wisdomiagod you people are awesome tbh21:00
x4Dx5Asorry i wasn't more help. glad you have things working again.21:00
wisdomiaYou were fine help, I am pretty new to Ubuntu and SSL stuff so it's like teaching a 2 year old how to ride a bike before teaching him to walk :D21:02
tomreynYamakasY, B0g4r7: apparently this still exists http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=system-config-lvm21:03
tomreynalso this https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/raring/kvpm/21:03
tomreynbut using the command line seems easy enough to me21:03
tomreynit's just a bit irritating that you have multiple binaries / commands and not just options to a single command at first21:04
YamakasYTJ-: got it fixed by booting ubuntu livecd21:04
YamakasYtomreyn: yao, thanks!21:04
TJ-YamakasY: good. do you know what was causing it though?21:04
YamakasYTJ-: nope, I think the 100% usage... but still a empty mtab21:05
TJ-YamakasY: /etc/ isn't read-only ?21:06
tomreynwisdomia: there's more left to be done  https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=lolsaloon.com21:06
tomreyn(congrats for making it there, though)21:07
YamakasYTJ-: nope21:08
wisdomiatomreyn yes I know I am fixing everything now thanks ^.^21:08
tomreyn:) good luck. if you do it right, you should end up with an A+21:09
YamakasYTJ-: errr no space left on device ? there is plenty now, it even happens with apt-get autoremove21:09
tomreynwisdomia: one mandatory step towards that is actually keeping your server up to date, which you're not currently doing21:09
wisdomiahow would I go about "keeping the server up to date"21:10
YamakasYTJ-: any idea there ?21:11
tomreynwisdomia: have a look at the "unattended-upgrades" package. just installing it and running the "unattended-upgrades" command as root (or with sudo) will probably already fix it21:12
tomreynwisdomia: if you just want to do it once now then you'd use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"21:12
tomreynYamakasY: if you don't mind summing it up again, what are you trying to do there?21:13
tomreyn(if you prefer not to, thats fine)21:13
TJ-YamakasY: did you extend the file-system inside the LV with resize2fs ?21:13
YamakasYtomreyn: I just extended a lv21:14
YamakasYTJ-: yap, but it's something else21:14
TJ-wisdomia: If you want to configure for Perfect Forward Secrecy I wrote an article on the configs required - https://iam.tj/configuration.html21:14
YamakasY / is on 77% so no issue21:14
danieladiego21:14
wisdomiahis website is im.tj i god I love you lmao21:15
tomreynYamakasY: unmount the file system, force a file system check. also check "df -i" (inodes)21:15
YamakasYyes inodes are full I see21:16
YamakasYchecking out now where it is21:16
YamakasYseems /usr21:16
MonkeyDustwisdomia  problem solved?21:16
TJ-wisdomia: I can't be bothered to do anything with it because I dislike every CMS I've looked at so far! I use trac on my other technical site and want something that has fluid flowing and static pages. If you ever see anything that does that and isn't written in Perl(!) let me know!21:16
wisdomiaI am using Wordpress for my League of Legends elo boosting service and so far it's amazing. I tried hardcoding databases and back end stuff myself and I was in way over my head with minimal PHP experience21:17
tomreynYamakasY: that's rathe runusual for /usr to happen21:17
TJ-wisdomia: a blog isn't suitable for my articles; I tried to work with Wordpress years ago but it frustrated me far too much. I prefer writing articles in Markdown and serving them statically. That's currently how I work... markdown and pandoc21:18
YamakasYtomreyn: no it's /var/spool pandora has 2.9GB of data cached21:19
TJ-YamakasY: glad you figured it out... was beginning to think you'd got something gone really wrong21:19
tomreynYamakasY: what kind of data?21:20
YamakasYTJ-: yeah me too, but I manage it mostly :D21:20
YamakasYtomreyn: snmp shit21:20
tomreynhmm plenty21:20
wafflejockYamakasY, just heads up read some of the conversation here, ncdu is a nice command line utility to see where all your space is going21:21
YamakasYwafflejock: yeah thanks21:22
YamakasYmysql/pandora/tentacle are runnign liuke crazy21:22
YamakasYwill let ir run for a while21:24
fullstackTJ-, Ghost21:25
TJ-time to reboot; another bisected kernel to test!21:26
YamakasYoohh! Le Mans is kewl21:27
stoyshoMy laptop drops wifi every 15-30 min21:37
bibi-23I'm looking for a tool but I forgot the name... it is a process manager, it can run a program on multiple similar processes, when a process dies it will recreate another one automatically, any idea?21:38
tomreynstoysho: whats your ubuntu version, hardware, which driver are you using?21:51
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sergehallo ?21:57
sadfdsaHas anyone seen telnet start printing ^M instead of newlines or along with newlines?21:57
sergewaar ben ik  hahaha21:57
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sadfdsai dont see any options in the man page for windows line endings21:58
sadfdsaI'm also trying to connect to a mud and the nomral port doesn't work, only port 23, whether i use telnet or a python script21:59
sadfdsabut everyone else says they are connecting via the normal port21:59
sadfdsai don't see anything in ip tables21:59
sadfdsaor with Google21:59
daniloncHi! Can someone help me with systemd and openvpn21:59
danilonc?22:00
daniloncHow can i configure openvpn to start in server mode with systemd?22:00
someUserhello22:05
someUseris it possible to stream youtube audio in vlc or something ?22:05
tomreyndanilonc: you should have a service file https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers#Example_Systemd_service22:06
B0g4r7Lots of vpn questions today.22:06
danilonc tomreyn: sudo systemctl enable openvpn@server.service22:06
tomreyndanilonc: it should start openvpn in daemon mode, using --daemon22:06
daniloncfound the answer on arch linux wiki22:06
daniloncI'm not used to systemd yet22:06
tomreynok :)22:06
tomreynme neither, had to look it up, too22:07
tomreynsomeUser: you could download videos from youtube and use vlc to stream the audio,yes. alternatively you could play them back in your web browser and have vlc capture and stream your audio monitor.22:09
Neptuhej how to install the latest version of the ModemManager... i saw on 14.04 TLS is version 1.0 but it Willi is 1.4.8 which i need how to get that done using apt-get??22:09
tomreyn"it Willi"?22:09
someUsertomreyn:  Thx. I dont want to download the videos. is it possible to stream only the audio ? maybe over commandline (doesnt have to be vlc player)22:10
B0g4r7Hunting bunny wabbits?22:10
Neptutomreyn, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=modemmanager22:11
tomreynsomeUser: probably, but i don't know how it's done in detail. maybe ask in #vlc.22:11
someUsertomreyn: thx, will do22:11
Neptutomreyn, seems a newwer version is available maybe unestable but i need to run that one to use my hw modem22:11
tomreynNeptu: do you mean "in wily"?22:11
Neptutomreyn, yes22:12
tomreynah :)22:12
Neptutomreyn, donno how to bypass aptitude to get the absolutly newest22:12
Neptuand of course i just want to do this for 2 packages22:12
tomreynsearch for a backport22:13
Neptutomreyn, not familiar with the term but i google22:13
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Asuranhey is xorg in ubuntu 15.04? and if so does it have working fglrx?22:16
thenewoneHi guys22:16
tomreynNeptu: a backport is a package, originally built for a newer ubuntu release, but made compatible to an older release.22:16
thenewoneany good program to make my flash drive boutable with other OS ?22:16
Asuran*xorg 1.1722:16
thenewoneunetbootin dont work22:16
thenewonefor me22:16
Neptutomreyn, yes reading... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports22:17
thenewoneany help ?22:18
tomreynAsuran: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&keywords=xserver-xorg&searchon=names22:20
tomreyncan't tell about fglrx22:20
Asurantomreyn, thanks22:21
Asuranamd is crap22:21
Asurani mean the whole company22:21
Asuranjust if you wanted to buy any product from them22:21
Asurannvidia betrays people with hardware, but atleast their drivers work for latest xorg ^^22:21
tomreynAsuran: #ubuntu-offtopic please22:22
tomreynthis channel is just for support22:22
usermehello does java work on linux22:23
MonkeyDust!java | userme sure, start here22:24
ubottuuserme sure, start here: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.22:24
usermethanks lol can u make it simpler22:25
Asuranyou can use jdk or oracle jvm22:25
Asurani would prefer oracles22:25
Asurancheckout java.com22:26
Asuranand ubuntu wiki for install guide, its easy22:26
Asurana few commands22:26
usermelol aint mate22:26
tomreyni'd recommend openjdk22:26
Asurantomreyn, because of what?22:26
tomreynbecause it work fine out of the box for most use cases22:26
Asurantomreyn, its crap slow stuff22:26
tomreynand it's open source software22:26
Asurantomreyn, its common opensource quality22:26
Asuranyea thats the problem22:27
Asurani like opensource idea22:27
DexstarrrAnyone have any experience in vaapi video encoding?22:27
usermewanna use it with firefox22:27
Asuranbut sometimes you need to see the facts22:27
Asuranuserme, check the wiki22:27
Asuranthere install manual for both22:28
Asuranuserme, go, check the wiki do it now pls22:28
Asurantomreyn, no offfense to you but suns jvm is better22:28
MonkeyDustuserme  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Installation_of_Java_Runtime_Environment22:29
tomreynAsuran: Sun? Who is that.22:29
Asurantomreyn, originial makers of java22:29
Asuranbuyed by oracle22:29
tomreynhehe, both are the same software really with small exceptions.22:29
tomreynbut openjdk is packaged for ubuntu22:30
Asuranidk but i guess openjdk is behind jvm22:30
graemelionGiven that openjdk is the reference Java now..22:30
graemelionI kinda find that hard to believe.22:30
Asuranopenjdk and minecraft worse performance compared to jdk22:31
MonkeyDustdiscussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, please22:31
TJ-Asuran: Please don't spread FUD. OpenJDK is Oracle's *reference* implementation of the JAVA SE, since JDK 7. "The role of the Reference Implementation (RI) is to be used as the gold standard for all Java implementations"22:31
TJ-ref: https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/moving_to_openjdk_as_the22:31
AsuranTJ-, why then worse openjdk such worse performance compared to the original?22:32
Asuranif they the same22:32
Asurani used ubuntu btw22:32
Asuran14.10i guess it was22:32
Asuranim intrested in any explanations22:32
MonkeyDustAsuran  and spare the enter key22:33
graemelionWhile this is offtopic, if Minecraft was your benchmarking tool for Java, you probably aren't going to get accurate results.  Minecraft is notriously bad java.22:33
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Asurangraemelion, it was a real world test, nothing more22:33
graemelionA sample size of one is not a test. It's an anecdote.22:34
Asuranokay22:34
mucukhi guys22:34
graemelionRegardless, to the original question, openjdk and oracle jdk are perfectly good choices, and the wiki will help you install either one22:34
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mucukwho wants bitcoins22:35
Asuranmucuk, how much?22:35
mucuk3 to 422:35
Asuransure22:35
mucuki cant use them22:35
usermegive up to hard22:35
Asurani take them :)22:35
Asurani pm you22:36
mucukhow can i send them to you22:36
mucukok22:36
Asurangot bitcoin installed?22:36
mucuknope22:36
mucukblockchain something22:36
mucukuse it22:36
Asuranlol ban his ip guys22:38
Asuranhes scammer22:38
NoddAnyone have a problem with 15.04 stalling on shutdown?22:38
Asuran»» mucuk has offered DriverPack-Online_1193365982.1434234423.exe (1955080 bytes)22:38
Asuran»» DCC RECV DriverPack-Online_1193365982.1434234423.exe to mucuk aborted.22:38
Asurantried to.... lol22:38
graemelionwell of course he is :D Nobody's gonna give you $1200 or so :D22:38
Asuranthen he said: .:mucuk:. sorry wrong conversation and quitted22:38
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racarHey guys, i just bought a asus pci-ac68 dual-band wireless adapter. Everything's is working but for an unknown reason, the stability is really bad. I ignored ipv6 but doesnt change anything. Anyone have a idea r how to improve/debug this  ? thx22:39
Asurangraemelion, well you dont know how things work ;)22:39
graemelionAsuran: I assure you, I do.  You run that thing, it installs a key logger, and then he gets all the bitcoin from YOUR address :D22:39
MonkeyDustplease guys, #ubuntu-offtopic or pm22:39
Asurangraemelion, maybe i should do it and scam him back?22:40
graemelionFeel free.22:40
tomreynracar: you mean PCE-AC68, right? which ubuntu version are you running?22:41
racartomreyn, yes ! my bad22:42
racari read that wl (original driver) are the only one possible and i didnt found any hack on this driver to improve it ( or any issues )22:42
tomreynyour ubuntu version is?22:43
tomreynand how do you measure the bad stability? does the connection fail, do you get low throughput?22:43
racar3.16.0-40-generic #54~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 10 17:30:45 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux22:43
racarconnection fail every 5 min22:44
tomreynSo you run Ubuntu 14.04 LTS presumely22:44
racartomreyn, kubuntu more exactly 14.0422:45
tomreynracar can you run this in a terminal ("konsole") and show the output?  lspci -nn | grep -i wireless22:46
tomreynshould be just one line22:46
racarsure , 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4360 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [14e4:43a0] (rev 03)22:47
Guest_hello everyone22:48
Guest_can anyone suggest me any Java IDE for my Linux 64bit22:49
itaylor57eclipse22:50
racartomreyn, it's a broadcom drivers and like a i said i used wl (bcmwl-kernel-source) drivers.22:50
TJ-Guest_: Eclipse, NetBeans22:50
tomreynracar: looks like this hardware may not be well supported. read up on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for your options.22:50
Guest_Is there any way I can install JDK from sun microsystems22:51
TJ-Guest_: if you work with Swing GUI apps NetBeans is better, but for tools and flexibility Eclipse is more advanced22:51
usermecant u go just  to software center on linux and install openjdk java22:52
bekks!java | Guest_22:53
ubottuGuest_: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.22:53
Guest_I need it for development purposes.22:53
racartomreyn, i have a CD but i only see windows drivers on it afaik. On the website i found a drivers, so you think it's better than bcmwl-kernel-source ?!?22:54
usermetried folllowing that mate not as easy as windows 722:54
TJ-userme: "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre"22:55
usermecheers mate22:55
tomreynracar: my bet would be on the proprietary "STA" drivers listed on that wiki page. but i have no first hand experience.22:56
racartomreyn, i will try and keep you updated22:56
sireorionmy vomputer have found a driver for my gpu...but i get 5 different22:56
sireorionwhat should i choice?22:56
tomreynsireorion: 5 is a lot. what are your options?22:57
sireoriontomreyn, nvidia binary driver v340.76 , nvidia legacy binary driver v304.125, nvidia binary driver v340.76, x.org server, nvidia legacy driver v304.12522:59
tomreynsireorion: looks like the 2nd and last are the same then. "x.org server" is a graphical display server, not a driver, i wonder why it's showing up there. maybe it's the 2D driver.23:00
sireoriontomreyn, wanna a screenshot?23:01
tomreynsireorion: you can keep what you have now, which is probably the open source nouveau driver. it will provide bad performance compared to the nvidia binary driver v340.76, which should probably be your second choice.23:01
sireoriontomreyn,  http://i62.tinypic.com/9qin8w.png23:02
tomreynno need for a screen shot, thanks23:02
confluence1I need a creative way to limit the size of a sqlite3 database (just one file).  The compiled sqlite available from Archlinux repos allows an enormous 2+TB sqlite3 database size.  Right now, a malicious user could DoS my website by creating a ton of orders, and leaving them dangling without payment.  I do have a cronjob to delete incomplete orders after 48h.  Any ideas?23:02
tomreynsireorion: the 4th, which you currently have selected, is the open source driver.23:03
sireorionbut it is good for gaming?23:04
TJ-confluence1: quotas too big a hammer for that?23:04
tomreynsireorion: depends on the games. if you need higher performance (such as for 3d games) you will want the 1st or 3rd one.23:04
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sireoriontomreyn, its world of tanks.  cs:go and dod23:05
tomreynconfluence1: if you run a business based off sqlite you have more serious issues to attend to.23:06
sireorionso driver 1 is the best for gaming then?23:06
confluence1tomreyn: that was hardly constructive.23:06
syadnomconfluence1, uh....why are you using sqlite for this?23:06
tomreynconfluence1: i wasn't done: switch to a real database backend and make it a high availability setup. at least failover, better master-master.23:07
TJ-confluence1: The usual way is to write your own VFS layer that limits the file size, see e.g. http://sqlite.org/c3ref/file_control.html23:07
confluence1syadnom: minimum viable product :)23:08
syadnomconfluence1, :/  you don't have a clean upgrade path23:08
tomreynsireorion: you may find to have better results with the one you have now with non-demanding games. but you probably want the proprietary nvidia one for performance hungry games.23:08
syadnomconfluence1, just start with maria/mysql or postgres23:08
tomreyn(so 1st or 3rd one, yes)23:08
confluence1TJ-: Just what I was after, thanks for the suggestion!23:10
racartomreyn, any idea why i can'T compile ? this is my error http://pastebin.com/qEbZAUA5 ( ialready installed build-essential and linux-headers-generic)23:12
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TJ-racar: "error: too few arguments to function ‘cfg80211_ibss_joined’" suggests the source you're trying to build is out of date with regard to the kernel version you are trying to build it for23:14
racarTJ-,  thx .. i took the most recent drivers i found on broadcom (11/03/14)  (linux STA 64 bit driver)23:16
Daniel_334454hello23:20
Daniel_334454anyone around?23:20
darthanubis!ask | Daniel_33445423:22
ubottuDaniel_334454: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:22
Daniel_334454Does anyone know if the bq aquarias ubuntu phone has upadated to 15.04 yet?23:24
tomreynracar: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta23:24
b100shi2all23:25
tomreynracar: you may need to enable the multiverse (non-free) repositories in software-proeprties-gtk beforehand23:25
b100sif there some magic hotkey to activate currently opened window? not by alt+tab23:25
b100sbut by special key like alt+123:25
b100sor may i bind key to window?23:25
kuba7447!patient23:27
kuba7447!patience23:27
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/23:27
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jeeves_mossI'm currently using the brcmfmac driver on my netbook, and it's slow/buggy.  are there replacements?23:32
mcphailDaniel_334454: not yet23:34
Daniel_334454mcphail: thanks for the confirmation was worried my phone isn't updating! just checked the forums too and similar thing said there23:36
Daniel_334454@mcphail seems there could be an update soon!23:38
mcphailDaniel_334454: yes - approaching release, I believe. A better channel for news is #ubuntu-touch23:40
Daniel_334454thanks mcphail23:40
mcphailDaniel_334454: np23:41
Daniel_334454my ubuntu phone search didn't locate me a channel23:41
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mcphailDaniel_334454: no worries. #ubuntu-touch is the one23:41
mcphailDaniel_334454: but, ask in there and the answer will remain "soon" :)23:42
Daniel_334454lol just asked23:43
jean-guyxubuntu23:43
jean-guyhi Knome and Ubottu... this is an update on my CD burn project which was done successfully.  Here is the process I used.  After downloading the mp3 I converted them with SoundConverter to a .ogg extention file (ogg_vorbis_audio).  I then used K3b to burn those ogg files to a CD.23:46
jean-guyYesterday, I did the same but it did not work in my Honda Civic 2004 (old model of CD player) and in those days, the CD players did not read mp323:47
jean-guyMy project today works fine.23:47
darthanubisthere was no need to convert to ogg23:47
darthanubisjust burn the mp3s straight to cd23:47
darthanubisyou'll lose quality the way youre doing it23:48
jean-guywell, whe I tried to load the mp3 in the  k3b it refused23:48
darthanubisyou may not have all the codecs installed23:48
jean-guycould be... but today, Knome told me to install23:48
bazhang!find libmp3lame23:48
ubottuFound: libmp3lame-dev, libmp3lame-ocaml, libmp3lame-ocaml-dev, libmp3lame023:48
kuba7447burn the mp3 as a "data project" instead of "audio"23:48
jean-guythe xubuntu-restricted-extras23:49
jean-guyto: kuba7447  can I burn mp3 as a data project to a CD medium, that will play in my car?23:51
darthanubisI personally wouldn't burn as data either, unless your player will play a data disk with mp3s23:51
darthanubisdepends on your deck23:51
EriC^^jean-guy: yeah23:51
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kuba7447jean-guy, yes23:51
darthanubisif it's old, probably not23:51
jean-guyokee great !     I will try that next time23:51
jean-guymy car is 2004 Honda Civic23:52
EriC^^darthanubis: mine used to since i got it in 200423:52
jean-guybut it definately does not read mp323:52
kuba7447when you burn the cd as and "audio cd", you will fit only 20 songs23:52
EriC^^( the stereo player not the car )23:52
kuba7447*an23:52
darthanubisEriC^^, you remember when they didn't though? And certain disks had to be used. etc.?23:52
EriC^^nope, that was my first car23:53
bazhang!info libk3b6-extracodecs23:53
ubottulibk3b6-extracodecs (source: k3b): KDE CD/DVD burning application library - extra decoders. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.3-0ubuntu2 (vivid), package size 53 kB, installed size 266 kB23:53
bazhanguse that jean-guy ^23:53
darthanubisThe number of mp3s you can get on an audio disk will be determined by the quality of mp3, and the size of disk23:53
EriC^^if it's after 2004 i guess it should read it fine23:53
jean-guyThanks for all your comments;   I'm very happy now that I found a way to burn CD for my car23:54
platzhirschAfter I updated to 14.10 I am getting SSL3_CHECK_CERT_AND_ALGORITHM dh key too small in one my programs using SSL. Might this be related to the Logjam vuln.? Is there a way for me to fix this? Like generate a new dh key23:54
kuba7447i had 20 songs, about 5mb each , the disk has 700mb capacity, i could only burn 20 song23:54
kuba7447*i had about 40 song23:54
bazhangjean-guy, install the package above, k3b can then burn mp3 audio disk23:55
darthanubis^^23:55
jean-guyokee thanks bazhang23:55
ubuntu150platzhirsch: You need a supported install for help.23:56
platzhirschubuntu150: a what?23:58
platzhirschyou mean an updated version?23:58
jean-guywhile on the subject of media players,  the  Parole Media Player was installed by default on my computor.  I don't like it, but it is the one that boots by default.  I much prefer RhythmBox.   Is there a way I can deactivate  parole media player?   or set RhythmBox to be my default player?23:58
EriC^^jean-guy: when you say boots by default what do you mean?23:59
ubuntu150platzhirsch: Ah, it is eol in july, my bad./23:59

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