/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/22/#ubuntu-bd.txt

ashabadihi annasha04:28
tareqhello ashabadi04:35
tareqashabadi: need to discuss on few things with you04:36
annashaHello ashabadi !04:44
ashabadihello tareq04:45
tareqhello ashabadi04:45
ashabadibad timing... leaving shortly for office04:45
tareqno problem04:45
tareqjust tell me when you will get time04:45
tareqneed to talk about loco team04:45
ashabadiok04:46
ashabadiI'm not sure my office timing has changed due to system testing04:46
tareqtonight04:46
ashabadiI will be at office till 1am04:46
ashabadiafter that not sure will be able to keep my head up04:46
tareqthen another04:47
tareqtime04:47
ashabadithis issue will continue till 2nd of July I guess04:47
tareq:(04:47
ashabadiif everything goes smothly04:47
tareqok, RJ is busy04:48
tareqI've some free time till mid july04:48
tareqeven i can manage more04:48
ashabadiok04:48
tareqso would like to contribute loco team04:48
tareqif you agree than i can proceed04:49
ashabadifirst get hold of Russell john04:50
ashabadihe has most of the admin access04:50
ashabadiand tareq  bhai you don't need anyones permission to work on loco... trust me04:51
Researcher-hi Ekushey04:52
Researcher-:)04:52
ashabadiI don't think Ekushey is here04:53
ashabadiits his bot04:53
Researcher-bot ? nick Ekushey is bot ?04:53
QAResearcher-: One learns a new thing every day04:53
Researcher-i know Ekushey since quite a long time and i think this is his bnc/psybnc/or znc but it is not a bot.04:54
tareqok, I will make some roadplan; than discuss with Russel John bhai04:55
tareqResearcher-: Can you introduce yourself?04:56
Guest44795Well i am from Pakistan, and ubuntu enthusiast 04:57
Researcher-i work for loco team Pk 04:58
Researcher-and i am serving in I.T industry since 18 years 04:58
tareqOhh, nice to meet you brother04:59
Researcher-mainly focusing into commercial servers hosting, industrial ERP's and applications of security. 04:59
Researcher-same here 04:59
Researcher-thank ou.04:59
Researcher-:)04:59
Researcher-but i am residing now at Muscat  Sultanate of Oman, 05:00
ashabadiguys I've to leave now05:05
tareqok ashabadi05:06
tareqsee you soon05:06
ashabadiResearcher-: Ekushey has configured his id so that it logs record of converstion when he is away05:06
ashabadiok tareq good day05:06
tareqResearcher-: Can you give me some suggestions regarding LoCo team activities?05:09
Researcher-well05:09
Researcher-tareq it depends on the role 05:10
tareqlike?05:10
Researcher-between let me know about your strong side .... are you good with technical side or management or administration etc ?05:11
Researcher-brb\05:18
pavlushkaHello every one!06:02
Kiloshi pavlushka and others06:06
pavlushkaKilos: using QIWI web client only because I love that bird, :p06:07
Kiloslol06:08
Kiloswhy  arent you in belkies channel06:08
* pavlushka cant swear though06:09
Kilospavlushka i mailed you06:12
pavlushkachecking06:13
RemonShaiএখানে login করা এতো ঝামেলা কেন?06:57
pavlushkahello RemonShai 07:01
RemonShaihello pavlushka ভাই...../07:06
pavlushkaকেমন আছেন RemonShai !07:07
RemonShaiআলহামদুলিল্লাহ্ ভাল আছি। আপনি কেমন আছেন?07:08
pavlushkaRemonshai use any standalone IRC client, better that web clients in connection stability, :)07:11
pavlushkalike Hexchat, quassel, konversation, or anything you like07:12
pavlushkaRemonShai: you can get help here instantly, interactively07:13
pavlushkaRemonShai: for you ubuntu system issues07:13
RemonShaiনেট, কিছুক্ষণ পরপর discannect হচ্ছে।07:13
RemonShaiপুরনো বার্তা গেল কই?07:13
pavlushkaRemonShai: Hexchat, quassel, konversation, or anything you like are better than web-client like Qiwi that you are using right now, :p07:14
RemonShaiok.....07:15
pavlushkaRemonShai: I am talking in respect to connection stability for IRC, :)07:19
pavlushkaRemonShai: please check here https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/22/%23ubuntu-bd.txt07:21
pavlushkaQA tell Jihad : please check here https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/22/%23ubuntu-bd.txt07:21
Kilosnetsplit killed her07:28
Kilossee you later07:29
pavlushkaQA tell Jihad : please check here https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/22/%23ubuntu-bd.txt07:30
QA_pavlushka: I don't know who Jihad is. Say 'Jihad on freenode' and I'll take your word that Jihad exists07:30
pavlushkaQA tell Jihad on freenode : please check here https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/22/%23ubuntu-bd.txt07:30
QA_pavlushka: Got it, I'll tell Jihad on freenode07:30
pavlushkaQA tell ashabadi that is he actually will do his office till 1 AM?07:58
QA_pavlushka: Righto, I'll tell ashabadi on freenode07:58
pavlushkaQA tell AudaciousTUX that Qiwi is a great idea to attract people, impressed but very unstable for connection comparing to standalone IRC clients, :)08:02
QA_pavlushka: Righto, I'll tell AudaciousTUX on freenode08:02
tareqHello all12:25
AudaciousTUXhello12:25
tareqhow are you doing frans12:26
AudaciousTUXtrying to make a better platform of sharing linux realated knowledge ^_^12:26
pavlushkaHello again everyone!14:07
* Kilos returned but need to eat and drink before i can think straight again15:01
ashabadihi Ekushey Kilos pavlushka Researcher-15:38
Kiloshi ashabadi_ 15:54
pavlushkaHello ashabadi_!15:56
pavlushkaI was busy playing king of fighters, :p15:56
ashabadi_good15:57
ashabadi_atleast having a fun time15:57
ashabadi_our sytem UAT postponed till Friday15:57
Kilosash15:57
Kilosashabadi_ 15:57
ashabadi_so I will resume normal office day tomorrow15:57
pavlushkaashabadi_,  you said you will do office till 1 am, are you in the office still?15:57
Kilospavlushka give him the info to apply for membership please15:57
ashabadi_no pavlushka our UAT got postponned till Friday15:58
Kiloshe has worked for ubuntu for years'15:58
pavlushkaKilos, ashabadi_ is more informed than me, just ask him if he is interested.15:58
Kilosashabadi_ ?15:58
ashabadi_I'm novice in everything..15:58
ashabadi_I know nothing :'(15:58
Kilosgoogle ubuntu/membership/newmember15:59
ashabadi_Kilos: may I answer it 1/2 month's down the line? if that's not too late to decide15:59
ashabadi_sure kilos15:59
Kilosno but you can start getting all your info together for a wiki page15:59
Kiloswiki is under lockdown because of spammers16:00
ashabadi_ok Kilos I will do it but gradually16:00
ashabadi_really?16:00
Kilosso someone with edit rights will have to do it for you16:00
Kilosyes there is a concerted attack against ubuntu wiki16:01
Kiloswhole gangs of spammers16:01
ashabadi_sad16:01
pavlushkaashabadi_,  ashabadi_ you have to be the member of ubuntu-etherpad to edit wiki16:01
pavlushkaashabadi_, on LP.16:01
Kilosthat has been stopped too i think pavlushka 16:01
Kilosbecause some spammers got in that way16:02
pavlushkaKilos, :p, I can edit the wiki's16:02
pavlushkaKilos, I can do it for ashabadi as well, :p16:02
Kiloscool then you can make his wiki page for him16:02
pavlushkaashabadi_, you just have to mail me the details16:02
Kiloshe must just get all his info together for you16:03
ashabadi_Kilos: I don't think I have links/photo for the contribution I made16:03
pavlushkaKilos, but who will write the testimonials for me?16:03
Kilossad such and old hard working member never was pushed to get membership16:03
pavlushkaIf ther'e anyone?16:03
ashabadi_its all lost in the wild world web16:03
ashabadi_Kilos: I got busy with my work when the momentum died for Ubuntu loco in BD16:04
pavlushkaashabadi_, mine lost outside the wild world web, :p16:04
Kilospavlushka that you get from the people you have helped and i will give a dhort one for your helping me and ask xubuntu guys too16:04
Kilosi will also ask belkie to give you one pavlushka 16:05
pavlushkaKilos, they are lazy enough to switch to Windows just flashing pc when I was not there, all lost , almost.16:05
Kilosoh my16:06
Kilosand back to windows?16:06
pavlushkaKilos, why not? forget it.16:06
Kilosforget what?16:06
pavlushkaI started all over again, :p16:06
Kilosyour membership16:06
pavlushkaKilos, you keep it, :p16:07
Kiloskeep what?16:07
pavlushkaKilos, i am okay with you guys.16:07
Kilosive been here for months because you werent supported and ill help you get yours16:08
Kilosand ashabadi_ should get his16:08
pavlushkaashabadi_, its never a problem, I wiil sign a testimonial for you and you just have to breif about you as an Ubuntu user and..16:09
Kilosif it takes 6 months thats fine ashabadi_ 16:09
pavlushkaashabadi_, it will count, trust me, I am not that uselessm :p16:09
Kiloshe has done much more than i did16:09
KilosResearcher- is another one16:10
ashabadi_pavlushka: I never said you are useless16:10
Kiloseven though he isnt in asia anymore16:10
ashabadi_your launchpad tells much more :)16:10
Kiloshi tareq_ 16:10
tareq_hi Kilos16:11
ashabadi_hello tareq_16:11
ashabadi_I guess you had prayed that I will be here online, instead of office16:11
Kiloslol16:12
tareq_lol16:12
tareq_I've posted in the group16:12
pavlushkatareq_,  noticed, nice and helpful with visu als16:13
pavlushka*visuals16:13
ashabadi_I've not seen it16:13
ashabadi_will check it :)16:13
pavlushkaH AudaciousTUX!16:14
pavlushkaAudaciousTUX, your plan worked but you were not there to watch it, :p16:14
pavlushkaAudaciousTUX, and instead they befriended me, :p16:16
Kiloslol16:16
pavlushkaদগদ16:18
pavlushkalol16:18
AudaciousTUXwhere?? i was not here....16:18
pavlushkaAudaciousTUX, arouund noon and afternoon16:18
AudaciousTUXuh... in irc??16:19
pavlushkayep16:19
pavlushkaAudaciousTUX, got my message?16:19
pavlushkafrom QA16:19
AudaciousTUXyah16:19
pavlushkaAudaciousTUX, but to start, it is perfect, :)16:19
AudaciousTUXyah.... many lazy people like me won't install irc client before they know what the hell this is16:21
ashabadi_sorry guys I'm a bit lost16:22
pavlushkaActually I am here all because of my Canon scanner was not working in linux, :p16:22
ashabadi_if you don't mind a bit tired, having a rough two days16:22
Kilosrest ashabadi_ 16:22
pavlushkaashabadi_, sure, its always nice to have you here, :p and even nicer when you leave, :p16:22
Kiloslol16:23
Kilosno man people must only leave when they go sleep16:23
pavlushkaashabadi_, I am lying about the 2nd part, :)16:23
ashabadi_Kilos: I like to be here16:24
ashabadi_now people are talking16:24
ashabadi_that's why staying16:24
Kilosgreat ashabadi_ 16:24
ashabadi_if it was dead none talking then I would have left16:24
ashabadi_btw having highs and lows last two days...16:24
pavlushkaashabadi_, but before going to sleep,please lose your tail, :p16:24
Kiloswithout irc users cannot even apply for membership16:25
ashabadi_was detained by police yesterday and today got awarded by CEO Bangladesh for top achiever team :P16:25
Kilosubuntu was built on irc16:25
pavlushkaAudaciousTUX, you can check the logs to be sure, :p16:25
pavlushkaashabadi_, Congrats for both, :p16:26
Kiloswhy detained16:26
pavlushkaKilos, I guess late night, and what happens in BD stays in BD, :p16:26
Kiloshaha16:27
ashabadi_no pavlushka not late night, it was 8.30 am 16:27
ashabadi_was detained for taking photograph of police member taking a rest & talking on phone16:28
pavlushkaashabadi_, yep, that came to my mind as second, must be some other reason, may be just for harrasment, or bribe.16:28
=== ashabadi_ is now known as ashabadi
Kiloscongrats on top achiever ashabadi_ :D16:28
Kiloshahaha you guys get arrested easy hey16:28
pavlushkaashabadi, you rock bro.16:29
ashabadiactually Kilos we are sort of silent emergency right now16:29
ashabadino media will say we are on nationwide emergency but we are16:29
Kilosah troubled state same as here16:29
ashabadithey thought I was terrorist and taking picture of police...16:30
pavlushkaKilos, what's the update on that?16:30
Kilosthere are siilar probs world wide16:30
Kilossimilar16:30
Kilosguys in tunisia wont use telegram because isis used it when they blew up some places16:31
ashabadiwas almost booked as terrorist, got released because one of my friend is high official in Bogra Police... and I had to involve my office to get me released16:31
pavlushkaashabadi, you still rock , yo yo16:31
AudaciousTUXi wonder why isis don't use irc :(16:31
pavlushkaashabadi, that's awesome....16:31
Kilostelegram is more secure16:31
ashabadilol pavlushka.. up until 1pm I rocked, but when I was told I will be booked as terrorist I was not rocking anymore16:31
AudaciousTUXyah.... 16:32
pavlushkaashabadi, I was double checked as terro rist suspect but wasn't that lucky, :p16:32
ashabadireally so you got booked and released?16:32
ashabadiI should be careful talking to you now on irc :P16:32
ashabadieven this channel has log system :P16:33
Kiloshahaha16:33
pavlushkaashabadi, nah, not as lucky as you, I was released just after checking, :(16:33
ashabadijust after checking?16:34
ashabadithat means how many days you were detained?16:34
ashabadiyou mean the other way around? you are not detained at all16:34
pavlushkanah, I was checked on the spot, its nothing.16:35
ashabadihmm16:35
pavlushkathere was some information of happenening something may be, so they were extra alert, and when they check , htey notice the expressions, I was happy.16:36
pavlushkalol16:36
pavlushkawhat? it wasn't that funny?16:37
pavlushkaok, not lol.16:38
ashabadi:)16:38
ashabadiyes it is16:38
pavlushkagoing for dinner, anyone else?16:38
ashabadiI hope you don't have beard though16:38
ashabadiand dont ride bike in number of 3 :)16:38
pavlushkaashabadi, unfortunately I do, :p16:38
ashabadiout of real concern16:39
pavlushkaashabadi, dont worry, when I'll ride, the 3rd one will drop off, :p16:39
pavlushkaI even dropped the 2nd!16:40
ashabadilol16:40
ashabadi:P16:40
pavlushkaHello NaSb16:52
Kiloshi NaSb 16:53
Kilosi go eat in 5 mins16:53
NaSbpavlushka Kilos Hi, 16:53
NaSbAudaciousTUX: Ping16:53
pavlushkaNaSb, আস্সালামু আলাইকুম16:53
ashabadibtw pavlushka Kilos dont forget to offer membership scope to tareq_ as well16:54
NaSbpavlushka : ওয়া আলাইকুমুস সালাম :)16:54
AudaciousTUXhei sabbir vau16:54
ashabadihe had been contributing in the community areana for a bit period of time16:54
NaSbAudaciousTUX অনেক বছর পর পাইলাম16:54
ashabadispecially with documentation & trouble shooting to newbees16:54
* pavlushka laughs16:54
AudaciousTUXamito shorbodai thaki :/16:54
Kilospavlushka you have applied once, you know the ropes, you all get together and work on wiki pages and LP accounts16:55
pavlushkaAudaciousTUX, কইসে?16:55
AudaciousTUXeita korlen kemne :o pavlushka16:55
NaSbAudaciousTUX: হাহ্ কয়েকদিন ধইরা, সেটা আমি আর pavlushka ভাই জানি :p16:55
ashabadiAudaciousTUX: type /me your message16:55
AudaciousTUX:/16:55
* ashabadi teaches AudaciousTUX how to use me16:55
pavlushkaNaSb, actually AudaciousTUX is an old customer of here16:55
* AudaciousTUX hello16:55
AudaciousTUXwow16:56
ashabadinormally it would be16:56
* ashabadi says hello16:56
ashabadi:P16:56
AudaciousTUXyah... older than nasb16:56
AudaciousTUXoh :p16:56
NaSbpavlushka আমি জানি16:56
pavlushkaand AudaciousTUX is in love with Nusha I guess16:57
AudaciousTUXyah <316:57
pavlushkaNaSb, but not regular as it seems, right?16:57
AudaciousTUXnasb er to kono activity e dekhina :316:59
pavlushkaKilos, got you, tareq_ bhai, you just mail me your details, It was belkinsa who helped me on this at the first time, :)16:59
NaSbAudaciousTUX কি একটিভিটি দেখতে চান?17:00
ashabaditareq_: is here? I think he is away17:00
Kilosi go eat17:00
Kilosbe good17:00
ashabadiok Kilos be back soon17:00
AudaciousTUXdance @nasb17:01
pavlushkabelkinsa and Kilos put me together to appear in the meeting, otherwise I would not face that meeting, speaking my mind.17:01
ashabaditareq_:  if you come please do knock me if I'm not asleep17:02
ashabadipavlushka: AudaciousTUX tareq_ would like to discuss about path of loco activity in short on how we want to progress17:03
pavlushkaashabadi, sure, looking forward, :017:03
pavlushka:)17:04
ashabadilet tareq_ come17:04
tareq_here I am17:04
ashabadieither tareq_ comes first or I go to sleep17:04
ashabadiwhich ever comes first17:04
ashabadisince tareq_ is here..17:04
tareq_what was the topic 17:04
ashabadinothing tareq_ an informal discussion regarding reviving loco?17:05
tareq_loco is not active right now17:05
ashabadiEkushey:17:05
ashabadiyes I know tareq_17:05
ashabadifrom my past experience I want to discuss why our loco team died17:05
tareq_I have a soft corner for this community17:05
tareq_you can17:06
ashabadimainly 2 issue... 1) we did not have enough technical hand available to provide solution at the first instant people came for support17:06
tareq_okay17:06
pavlushkaashabadi, and ?17:07
ashabadi2) we did not have structured work manner with regard to mailing list management/event management17:07
ashabadialso the control of community was not at hand of community itself... its sad that we failed to create enough volunteers/leaders who will take over in absence of any of the leaders/voluteers17:08
AudaciousTUXand maybe 3rd ... community venge geche... 17:08
ashabadithe community died because Linux forum was shut down17:08
tareq_come on17:08
ashabadiI wonder why we could not create another linux forum?17:08
ashabadiwhat stop us?17:08
AudaciousTUXi'm currently working on the same thing17:09
ashabadicommunity fraction could have been managed if we were working in a structured way17:09
AudaciousTUXi was talking about this....17:09
ashabadiAudaciousTUX: working on linux forum?17:09
AudaciousTUXiah17:09
AudaciousTUXyah*17:09
ashabadiI think before working on linux forum we need to work on documentation site17:09
pavlushkaAudaciousTUX, we live to rise,17:10
tareq_we need a structure17:10
tareq_that is true17:10
AudaciousTUXdocumentation like arch wiki??17:10
ashabadiI think the facebook page is quite active... we shall target on documenting the problems people post & their solution on different site17:10
ashabadithat is searchable17:10
ashabadiit could be forum/ it could be website17:10
pavlushkatareq_,  agrred17:10
ashabadiand yes website is a must..17:10
ashabadisince I bought hosting for my personal blog I can assign hosting space17:11
pavlushkaashabadi, point17:11
ashabadiits not an issue17:11
AudaciousTUXhelping in fb group is not much practical...17:11
tareq_i think it is high time to reassign the team17:11
AudaciousTUXyah17:11
pavlushkaAudaciousTUX,  yep, same question, same problem again and agian17:11
AudaciousTUXyah17:11
ashabadito get structured we can work on the basic guideline that tareq_ set17:11
ashabadiatleast first point to meet in irc17:12
pavlushkaashabadi, agreed17:12
tareq_we need to meet regularly17:12
AudaciousTUXfor example the font problem... i'm so much tired that i've made a blog in my own website...17:12
ashabadialso I would reutter the importance of meeting face to facce17:12
ashabadieven if not to discuss program event, atleast to build bonding17:12
tareq_i have an idea17:12
AudaciousTUXadnan sir's ubuntu installation blog is quite old... and has some bugs17:12
pavlushkabetter.17:12
ashabadiso that disagreements/fractions can be managed as friend17:12
tareq_we can meet at different places17:13
AudaciousTUXand fb group is now bunded with only ubuntu and derivatives.... 17:13
tareq_like different corners of city17:13
AudaciousTUXyah17:13
pavlushkaissues for me as i m from panchagarh, :(17:13
tareq_dhanmondi, uttara, gulshan, puran dhaka etc17:14
ashabadiAudaciousTUX: we have to start working on one derivative first17:14
ashabadiwe can't have expert in all the distro17:14
pavlushkaashabadi, point17:14
tareq_so that everybody can meet17:14
ashabadipavlushka: that's not an issue... you can arrange friends to meet there too17:14
AudaciousTUXthey're all same in end...17:14
ashabaditareq_: I'm not talking about buntu/mintu adda or anything formalised17:15
ashabadiit should be informal17:15
ashabadijust to hang out17:15
AudaciousTUXyah17:15
tareq_yea17:15
ashabadiif you can give time to people interested in Ubuntu17:15
AudaciousTUXin a open place17:15
pavlushkaashabadi, but I have been to the 16.04 release party arranged by FOSS17:15
ashabadithen you can give time to volunteer17:15
ashabadigreat pavlushka :)17:15
tareq_my preference towards17:15
AudaciousTUXu was there?? pav17:15
tareq_ubuntu17:16
tareq_we have enough idea on that17:16
pavlushkaAudaciousTUX, yes, and you were supposed be there too, as you were mentioned17:16
AudaciousTUXi attended bdosn party and that was too much boring... 17:17
ashabadiI don't want to focus our loco activity around arranging release parties/awareness program anymore17:17
ashabadirather on creating experts & documentation17:17
AudaciousTUXand i had coaching17:17
tareq_we should be open minded, but I don't know much about other distros like centos, gentoo17:17
pavlushkaashabadi, just for the record,17:17
tareq_ashabadi: your idea is great17:18
AudaciousTUXme too.... only used antergos, mint, ubuntu derivatives17:18
tareq_we need more experts17:18
ashabadiif we have enough expert to help people at the first instance of trouble or documents to share to new bees for to resolve their problems then it would be easier to convert people to linux17:18
pavlushkatareq_, why not what ashabadi is awarded for then?17:18
ashabadi?? did not get what pavlushka said?17:19
tareq_??17:19
pavlushkaashabadi, 's idea's are good as tareq_ said, I said of course, he is awarded as the best CEO I guess17:20
ashabadibest ceo?17:20
ashabadiI'm not a company head17:20
ashabadiI said my team was awarded as top contributor by country ceo :P17:20
ashabadiI might have typed wrong17:20
AudaciousTUXi'm coming in 5 min17:21
ashabadiI was saying that cause how people's live change from low to high & high to low17:21
ashabadiit has nothing to do with what I'm discussing17:21
tareq_i would like to contribute in documentation17:21
tareq_my comfort zone :)17:22
ashabadiand it is not something I want to boost on/or promote on17:22
ashabadisure tareq_ we need more hand in documentation17:22
ashabadias I said we need volunteers in every field17:23
tareq_ashabadi: what is your suggestion on survey17:23
ashabaditareq_: it can be done in second phase when we have enough volunteers17:23
tareq_I'm not that much specialist but I know enough to help noobs17:23
tareq_technological parts17:24
ashabadicurrently how many volunteers we have to tell the truth?17:24
ashabadiI don't see more than 5 hands17:24
tareq_make a number17:24
tareq_you, me we are from old days17:24
tareq_what about new bloods17:25
ashabadiAudaciousTUX: Ekushey adnan pavlushka tareq_ raihan17:25
AudaciousTUXtheir are more17:25
ashabadiamong them Ekushey & adnan can give time online only17:25
AudaciousTUXthere*17:26
ashabadithat leaves only 3 member... how far do you think we can go if we can't have volunteers?17:26
tareq_I can meet with adnan bhai in person17:26
ashabadisure AudaciousTUX I would like to get them involved17:26
tareq_all of them are not fond of IRC17:26
ashabaditareq_: to tell the truth even if we meet to hold discussion fact is we are too busy with other stuff that we can't contribute actively17:27
AudaciousTUXyah... that's the problem17:27
ashabadiI have talked with Adnan bhai long regarding this17:27
AudaciousTUXand i'm working on that too.... :p17:27
ashabadiI know he can't contribute personally, even on fridays17:27
tareq_ahh, research and family17:27
ashabadiAudaciousTUX: working silently won't give much result17:27
ashabadiyou may think you have all of it under control/under plan but it can all go awry17:28
AudaciousTUXtalking about me or other??17:28
ashabadianyway please do share your plan AudaciousTUX on how you plan you have experts & volunteers17:28
ashabadiI'm talking about you AudaciousTUX17:29
AudaciousTUXi don't even have any prototype to show now.... 17:29
ashabadiworking silently on linux forum/and creating volunteer group17:29
ashabadilol AudaciousTUX don't think it too complex17:29
tareq_just think17:29
ashabadiyou don't even know whether people will be interested or not in another linux forum or not17:29
AudaciousTUXnot to complex.... just inspired by the techtunes policy17:30
tareq_forum is not a good idea17:30
ashabadiso don't give much effort in something that you don't know will work or not17:30
tareq_2nd life of LIFO was flop17:30
ashabadiI don't even know lifo had 2nd life :P17:30
AudaciousTUXrussel vai ruined all lifo data... -_-17:30
tareq_facebook is a great place to gather people17:30
tareq_12k+ in one group17:31
tareq_can you imagine17:31
tareq_but <10 persons are active17:31
ashabaditareq_: why don't you put a post in that you need volunteers to copy facebook contents to a blog post17:31
tareq_most of them are inactive17:31
AudaciousTUXi'm working on blog.... russel vai er kotha shuina forum er kaj bondho rakhchi17:31
ashabadiI don't think you will find much people in reality helping out17:32
ashabadimany will show interest at first but will remain silent when you need them most17:32
tareq_very much true17:32
ashabadiAudaciousTUX: if you are building blog then why you are making it too complex?17:32
ashabadijust open a blog in wordpress/joomla17:33
ashabadienable posting by users & have the contents reviewed/approved by one of the admins17:33
ashabadiits that simple17:33
ashabadidon't think too complex of a site17:33
ashabadidon't think of techtune brother17:33
ashabaditechtune is a joke to many people now a days17:34
tareq_lol17:34
tareq_dhekitune17:34
AudaciousTUXthere 're too many blog sites.... i'm just making a platform whwere everyone can submit their blog.... create series of blogs..... and if the blog quality looks fine than take that to a new category17:34
tareq_wordpress blog is enough17:34
ashabadipeople can do that in single blog too17:35
AudaciousTUXtechtunes e onek faul faul blog content ache.... content management ta thik moto kora lagbe17:35
AudaciousTUXnot in one place17:35
ashabadithat's what I am saying17:35
ashabadiyou can arrange blog post by category17:35
AudaciousTUXi'm working on wordpress17:35
ashabadieven in simple wordpress17:35
ashabadiso you don't have to think about techtune17:36
AudaciousTUXi'm just making a good theme for that.... and series post can be helpful17:36
tareq_brb17:36
ashabadiok AudaciousTUX best of luck :)17:37
ashabadiso once we have that contributor site we can start working on the content building17:38
pavlushkaashabadi, so what you were saying?17:38
pavlushkaok17:38
ashabadiwe will need volunteers to contribute the blog with solutions17:38
pavlushkacopy17:38
ashabadieven copy paste from facebook it self17:38
ashabadiour primary concern is build a database in Bangla17:39
ashabadiwhen we have a large content database then we will move on creating new users17:39
AudaciousTUXrussel vai told me about english blog .... he's tired of bangalis "nemokharami" :p :v17:40
ashabadiunless people are given solution to their problem readily they won't stick to linux they will go back to windows17:40
ashabadinow a days I am even impatient to fix my problems in linux17:41
ashabadiI just install different application17:41
ashabadieven till now I've not managed to work on kmail17:41
pavlushkahmm17:41
ashabadiI've installed thunderbird17:41
ashabadibecause I'm lazy and searching for 3 hours did not give me proper resolution17:41
* pavlushka :p17:41
ashabadiif I were a new user I would have moved to windows and to outlook17:42
ashabadieven for thunderbird I needed 2 days trying to configure pop317:42
ashabadiI failed17:42
ashabadiand am using imap17:43
pavlushkaashabadi, imap is better17:43
ashabadiI needed backup of my emails in my local pc17:43
ashabadiimap does not download email automatically17:43
pavlushkaashabadi, not every free mail server supports pop3 also.17:44
ashabadiatleast google does17:44
ashabadigoogle pop3 did not configure in thunderbird17:44
pavlushkaashabadi,  they will let you when you pay.17:44
pavlushkahmm17:44
Kilosi have mail accounts at yahoo gmail live.com and all work on thunderbird with pop17:45
ashabadiI had worked with pop earlier in 2010 with google17:45
Kilosyou missing some simple thing ashabadi 17:45
ashabadiso I don't know whether they have switched policy or not17:45
ashabadiyes Kilos?17:46
Kilosi have 2 google accounts and both work17:46
AudaciousTUXbrb17:46
ashabadihmm Kilos don't know I followed every steps I could found googling17:46
ashabadiand they are not tough to configure as far as I can remember from 201017:46
Kilosmaybe there is a #thunderbird channel where they have experts17:46
ashabadibut they did not authenticate17:46
pavlushkaone thing,  I use Imap settings and when I am offline, I can open the downloaded mails, so its there on the disk.17:46
ashabadiI have given up trying Kilos17:47
Kilosyeah spending time struggling is frustrating17:47
ashabadipavlushka: you have to download the email first manually selecting the email17:47
ashabadithen it will show contents offline17:47
ashabadiits not downloaded automatically when email is sent to your primary gmail account17:48
pavlushkaashabadi, yes, I choose that intentionally for my disk space, 17:48
ashabadianyway that's another topic17:48
ashabadias I was saying, build a content database17:48
ashabadithat you can easily refer to people for problem solving17:49
ashabadijust like we did earlier with apro & lifo17:49
pavlushkaI open which are important, or of use, and they remain in the disk, I dont need all I think.17:49
pavlushkaashabadi, ok, keep going.17:49
pavlushkaon what you were saying17:49
ashabadiso it is easier for new members17:50
ashabadiand they don't think that they have to google for hours or wait for experts to reply to their posts17:50
ashabadiqueries17:50
pavlushkahmm17:50
ashabadiand then we can have volunteers staying in irc too helping member find solution in content database17:51
ashabadisince they are helping with same issue over and over17:51
ashabadithey will get acquinted with the content17:51
ashabadialso we will have to steal from #ubuntu channel17:51
ashabadi:P17:51
ashabadieven if we don't have answer to the problem we will ask the same query to ubuntu channel17:52
ashabadion behalf of he people who is facing problem17:52
pavlushkaashabadi, the point is if they got what they need from the portal, why would they come here on irc?17:52
ashabadito make it look like we are actually finding the answer for them17:52
ashabaditheoratically you can't have wikipedia of all the problems people can have17:53
ashabadithere will be problems that people are facing for the first time and not in the content17:53
pavlushkaashabadi, yes, that's the point, taken humbly.17:53
ashabadifor that we will need to have experts here in IRC17:54
ashabadithats where my point come in as stealing answer from #ubuntu channel17:54
tareq_some problems are weird17:54
tareq_all are not common problems17:54
ashabadiif you send away member asking help in #ubuntu-bd channel that you don't know the solution go ask in #ubuntu channel then why people will remain in #ubuntu-bd channel? they may rather remain in #ubuntu channel17:55
ashabadithat's my two priority right now17:56
ashabadiyou may think otherwise17:56
Kiloswise move17:56
ashabadiand discussions are always welcome to improve the loco community17:56
ashabadiI'm not interested in creating new users via so called release party (which is in fact has turned into promotional event rather than release party)17:57
ashabadiunless I have option to provide solution to the new users17:57
ashabadijust like any tech company17:57
ashabadiif I don't have experts to provide support/service to the clients, clients won't remain with my service and they will bad mouth give poor rating to my company and leave for competitor product17:58
tareq_we can provide certificate based courses17:58
ashabadiwe cant do that for free17:58
ashabadiI don't want to walk in a path that will tell people we are in a business of making money17:59
tareq_yea, even buet taking money for ubuntu course17:59
ashabadiand there are limited scope in teaching ubuntu certified experts...18:00
pavlushka_ ashabadi, ok, the idea is to minimize the hassel, and for the rest to solve, there's  #ubuntu-bd or #ubuntu18:00
ashabadiwe can have RHCE because company understand this certificate only... how many company understand ubuntu certified expert?18:00
ashabadipavlushka_: the idea is to give the community a face18:01
ashabadian entity18:01
pavlushka_ashabadi, #ubuntu-bd is necessary to keep the official LoCO stucture? its another reason we should keep in mind I guess.18:01
ashabadilike we are live community, we have website we have content database, we have active volunteers18:01
ashabadiplease stay with our product18:01
ashabadi:P18:01
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tareq_website is down, what about that18:02
ashabadipavlushka_:  I'm not saying that we should move to #ubuntu18:02
ashabadiI am saying keep the person who is asking for solution in #ubuntu-bd channel and repeat same problem/query in #ubuntu channel on behalf of the original person18:02
ashabadiand once you get solution in #ubuntu channel repeat the solution in #ubuntu-bd channel18:03
ashabadias if you are giving solution from experts from #ubuntu-bd channel18:03
tareq_and we shoul keep this in docs18:03
pavlushkaashabadi, yes18:03
pavlushka:পি18:03
ashabadiyes18:03
ashabadiand all problem/ssolution we have will need documentation18:04
pavlushkatareq_, it will go up soon18:04
ashabadiI think log is there to help18:04
ashabadiwe will only need some effort with formatting18:04
ashabadi:P18:04
ashabadiproof reading & cleaning18:04
pavlushkayes18:04
ashabadigive it a face... that's only thing I am saying18:04
tareq_i'm thinking about vblog18:04
pavlushkawe will check on logs to extract new issues and keep trac18:05
ashabadiif we can show people that its a lively community then people will stay here18:05
ashabadijust like people are staying on facebook group18:05
tareq_irc is not populer platform yet18:05
ashabadiI don't even like irc to be frank18:05
tareq_lol18:06
ashabadiirc does not have any way to show screenshot18:06
ashabadito provide command output18:06
tareq_but where to discuss?18:06
pavlushkayeah, we have people like ashabadi, AudaciousTUX, and tareq_18:06
pavlushkasorry18:06
pavlushkathere is way18:06
tareq_hangout?18:06
tareq_forum?18:06
ashabadisure pavlushka tell me?18:07
pavlushkapaste.ubuntu for logs18:08
pavlushkaimgur for sceenshots18:08
pavlushkaits official18:08
ashabaditareq_: we can still provide solution in facebook18:08
pavlushkaand give the link to us, we will check on it and give solution, 18:08
ashabadipavlushka: you will go to two different site but will an average user do it?18:08
ashabadiI know I will not do it18:08
ashabadiI know pavlushka of those method18:09
ashabadibut are they user friendly? are they enough to keep the people on irc?18:09
pavlushkatareq_, and to discuss, irc is best, the decisions of Ubuntu takes place on #ubuntu-meeting,18:09
pavlushkaso why not  for us in here at #ubuntu-bd18:09
ashabadithey are discussions, not problem solvings18:09
tareq_facebook is very good platform, honestly saying18:10
ashabadiirc is dying for a reason18:10
ashabadiwe will still have our discussion here18:10
tareq_yes18:10
tareq_even in telegram18:11
ashabadiirc will be base for planning/discussions/gossiping18:11
pavlushkaashabadi, but a fact is irc is strong in europe!18:11
pavlushkalook at #ubuntu-de18:11
tareq_whatever it is, I'm with ashabadi18:12
tareq_irc is good for us, but not for all18:12
tareq_for common guys, facebook is enough18:12
pavlushka:)18:13
pavlushkame too.18:13
pavlushkatareq_, agreed18:13
tareq_i like both18:13
tareq_after the long gap, telegram plays a role to bring me back18:13
ashabadipavlushka: do you know how many problems are solved in #ubuntu channel in last day?18:14
pavlushkaashabadi, I am not differring much, just dont get pissed off, sorry18:15
tareq_no idea18:15
ashabadiI'm not pissed off... I am just stating the fact18:15
pavlushkaashabadi, I can tell you checking the logs, My few problem solved in #ubuntu18:15
pavlushkaand I even help in #xubuntu18:17
ashabadigood pavlushka cause I dont see much of problem solved in #kubuntu channel18:17
ashabadiits sleeping just like #ubuntu-bd channel18:17
pavlushkaashabadi, yes, that is a specific case, I am there too.18:17
ashabadianyway..18:17
ashabadiwe can still have irc as base18:18
ashabadiwe can invite people to hang out18:18
ashabadito gossip18:18
pavlushkaashabadi, please go ahead, dont mind me.18:18
ashabadihell we can have fun interview over here on irc18:18
tareq_yes18:18
pavlushkaok18:18
ashabadiI remember we had few such sessions in #ubuntu-loco channel18:19
pavlushkaaha18:19
tareq_old days18:19
ashabadi:)18:19
ashabadianyway lets start working on base website18:20
* pavlushka to arms for base website18:20
ashabadiwhy don't you guys plan/sketch the design outline for base website?18:21
ashabadiyou can take idea from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BangladeshiTeam 18:21
ashabadiyou can make different pages for each of the segments/links18:22
ashabadiany way you like18:22
pavlushkaashabadi, we will add our idea's , you finalize it, the decision is uyours18:22
ashabadithen once its finalised launch it18:22
pavlushka*yours18:22
tareq_www.ubuntu-bd.org18:23
ashabadipavlushka: community wont grow if you can't take decision yourself18:23
pavlushka tareq_ bhai , what do you say?18:23
tareq_I think we can start with a common wordpress blog18:23
ashabadiif we remain stagnent just because I did not reply to your query or Ekushey did not answer you how will community grow?18:23
ashabadiyou have to take decisions yourselves after a common discussion :)18:23
tareq_we have to be respectful with each other18:24
tareq_I did the same thing 18:24
tareq_posted my plan :P18:24
ashabadiI am not saying you disrespect other's importance or other's idea or opinion18:24
ashabadijust keep the momentum grow18:24
pavlushkaashabadi, copu that18:25
pavlushkacopy that18:25
ashabadiif you create enough ripple then tide will grow18:25
tareq_yes, but for some reason you need modu18:25
* Kilos happy. action in bd18:25
ashabadiyou dont need modu for creating a blog18:25
ashabadior face18:25
ashabadiyou can do it yourself18:25
ashabadiofcourse you may need approval/help from moderator/admin to make it official18:26
tareq_but you know all users are not suitable for the blog post18:26
pavlushkatareq_, copy that too18:26
pavlushkaOk , working on it, need some time, 3 days I guess.18:26
ashabadibut I don't think any admin/moderator will give you vetto for creating a good webpage18:26
ashabadiwhen we don't have one18:26
ashabadiohh yes tareq_18:27
ashabadiwe won't open it to public at first go18:27
ashabadinot even in 3 days18:27
tareq_facebook group is the solid example18:27
ashabadiwe may build it for 1 month with contents as I said earlier18:27
tareq_hmm18:27
tareq_i will write some doc on kubuntu18:28
ashabadiwe will open posting solution for members for only a handful of volunteers18:28
ashabadiwe will test the output/typing skills of these volunteers first to give them access18:28
* pavlushka thinks it is a good idea18:28
tareq_we can make two version of it18:29
ashabadiwe may post in the facebook that we are trying to revive the loco community and need volunteers to help18:29
tareq_bangla and english18:29
ashabadiI think out of 12k members we may be lucky enough to find atleast 12 members18:29
tareq_ha ha18:30
tareq_hope is the fuel18:30
ashabadiI'll try to get hold of adnan bhai/ekushey before we post it in the facebook group18:30
pavlushkaashabadi, tareq_, you know already some skillful volunteers I guess, like AudaciousTUX18:30
pavlushkaand...18:30
tareq_yea18:30
tareq_but one is not enough18:31
pavlushkawont be a bad start I guess18:31
tareq_we need more like tanjim18:31
ashabadipavlushka: how many? I already told I can think of only 5 members, out of which 2 are already sleeping18:31
tareq_ohh18:31
pavlushkayeah, post it in ubuntu-fb, we will have more.18:31
ashabadifor that I will discuss with Adnan bhai/ Ekushey / raihan18:31
ashabadifirst18:31
pavlushka+118:32
ashabadiI will try to have this discussion tomorrow18:32
tareq_+118:32
tareq_where is raihan btw18:32
tareq_he was active earlier18:32
pavlushkaKilos, help us having meetings hosted by QA and keeping that log18:35
tareq_we can make some tutorials on various topics18:35
Kiloswill do, we can ask inetpro to help us18:36
Kilosatm superfly is hosting her18:36
pavlushkaKilos, like you people do in #ubuntu-za18:37
pavlushkaashabadi, tareq_ are you guys ok with that?18:37
pavlushkasorry I should have asked earlier 18:37
Kilosthe are a few commands to remember18:37
ashabadiwhat's the benefit of using qa as log instead of irc log?18:37
tareq_I have no problem18:37
Kilosthings like QA_ start meeting18:37
Kilosai!18:37
KilosQA_ change nick to QA18:37
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QAKilos: Changing nick to QA18:37
pavlushkaashabadi, you will have the issues sorted, not mixed up with other discussion and you will not need to extract the meeting content from the whol;e log18:38
pavlushkaashabadi, meeting will be held on specific topic18:39
tareq_that would be formal than18:40
Kilosyou set up an agenda for your meetings18:40
ashabadiI'm not hopeful of finding too many volunteers from facebook group to be frank18:40
pavlushkatareq_, yes, that's the idea18:40
Kilossimilar to http://bit.ly/1TxD2JQ18:40
tareq_ashabadi: same here18:40
tareq_ok, guys18:41
tareq_it was a great start18:42
tareq_I'm going to have some sleep18:42
tareq_good night18:42
Kilosnight tareq_ 18:42
pavlushkaashabadi, atleast we can try, :) and you are the ashabadi18:43
pavlushkaashabadi, you there?18:44
ashabadihumm18:44
ashabadiI'm trying to send group private message to admin of fb group18:45
ashabadibut not finding way to include member who are not my friends18:45
pavlushkagood18:45
ashabadipavlushka: I'm asha & badi18:50
ashabadiI'm truly an realist instead of dreamer18:50
ashabadiI know there won't be 12 volunteers out of these 12k members18:51
ashabadinone is willing to give that much time now a days18:51
pavlushkaashabadi, realist is better18:51
ashabadithey have classes/friends/meetups/games/girlfriends to give time to18:51
ashabadiinstead of staying up night after night and trying to contribute in Ubuntu community18:52
pavlushkaa realist plans, doesn't dream, and if plans fails, he/she understands18:52
ashabadirealistically I'm even afraid whether this enthusiasm of Tareq & Tanjim will remain for much long too18:53
ashabadianyway18:53
ashabadionly time will say18:53
ashabadilets see and hope for the best18:53
ashabadiI need to sign off now18:53
pavlushkayes, time will say18:53
pavlushkaGoodnight ashabadi18:53
ashabadiI think my wife won't be happy that I have been on pc since evening and not giving any time to her18:54
ashabadiI wonder how Kilos manage18:54
* pavlushka laughs18:54
ashabadiany tips Kilos on how to manage life?18:54
pavlushkaI know Kilos can manage sheep, and ubuntu-community but dont know what else.18:56
Kiloshaha18:56
Kilosive been divorced tice18:56
Kilostwice18:56
ashabadihmm then not a good source to seek tips I guess.. no offense18:57
pavlushkatwice? man i didn't even got married!18:57
ashabadiKilos:  you are brave enough to try it second time 18:57
pavlushkathough benn refused many times, :p18:57
Kiloslol18:57
ashabadidid not know you propose other to marry you in day time18:57
pavlushkaashabadi, yeah, but you got me, :(18:58
pavlushkaashabadi, dont tell anybody, keep it within the logs, :p18:59
ashabadilogs are public you know19:00
ashabadisearching pavlushka will show what you do on free time19:00
ashabadi:P19:00
pavlushka:p19:00
pavlushkaashabadi, Kilos it was actually like I was late in approach, they got engaged formally or informally, :p19:02
pavlushkaহা কপাল | hard luck19:02
ashabadihumm19:03
ashabadigood night guys19:03
pavlushkagood the night ashabadi19:03
* ashabadi yawns and waves at Kilos & pavlushka19:03
Kilosnight guys, sleep well19:04
Kilostomorrow is another day19:04
pavlushkaKilos, good night, will tell you about my  heart breaks later in details, :p19:04
Kilosok19:05
Kiloshaha19:05

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