ahoneybunvalorie: my bad I fell asleep02:44
valoriecan you check and publish?02:45
ahoneybunwhy are we linking to 14.04?02:45
valorieon the download page?02:46
valoriebecause it's LTS02:46
valoriefor those who need the old plasma02:46
ahoneybunno the post you drafted02:47
ahoneybunit says 14.04.1 but it was linked to 16.04.102:47
valorietypo I guess02:47
valorieI copied an old post and updated it02:48
valoriethat's why a review is always good!02:48
ahoneybunwant to link it to the text or just make it a link?02:48
valoriethe sentence should be a link02:48
valoriesame with the announce email02:48
valoriedunno who to make wordpress do that02:49
ahoneybunI can do it, also updated the alt download page from 16.04 to 16.04.1 02:49
ahoneybunand 14.04 to 14.04.402:49
valoriethank you02:50
ahoneybunlet me make one change to the download page and I'll get out and let you check02:51
ahoneybunvalorie: aright I'm out02:53
ahoneybunwell logged out, still here if things need to be fixed02:54
valorieahoneybun: I don't see it02:55
valoriedid you publish?02:55
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> it's a draft still02:55
ahoneybunif that is how you meant it to look02:56
valorieit's out; let's publish02:56
ahoneybunadded the release notes of .1 on the getkubuntu page as well02:56
valorieI pushed the publish button02:57
valoriethanks ahoneybun02:57
ahoneybuncool np :)02:57
valoriewhy is 15.10 there?02:58
valoriethat isn't supported anymore, is it?02:58
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months (non-LTS) or 5 years (LTS). More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases02:58
ahoneybunyea it lost it this month02:59
ahoneybunI can remove it02:59
valorieyes please02:59
ahoneybunlet's see if ovidiuflorin gets mad lol02:59
valorieI think it actually officially loses support tomorrow, but whatever03:00
valoriesince it was released on the 22nd03:00
ahoneybunat least we're ahead there then03:02
tsimonq2clivejo, acheronuk: you see my upload?05:14
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> /me is mad05:42
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> about?05:42
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> :-P05:42
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> You asked me to get mad,  now I'm mad.05:42
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> 😜05:42
ahoneybunI did not break anything so05:43
acheronuktsimonq2: yes, see the comments after 13:48 https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/07/21/%23kubuntu-devel.html05:44
tsimonq2oh okay05:45
acheronuktsimonq2: the original versioning on that package is confusing05:47
tsimonq2acheronuk: well it wouldn't let me rebuild with ubuntu105:47
tsimonq2wait a minute05:47
tsimonq2acheronuk: has it already been handled?05:48
tsimonq2if not, I'll just replace the debian revision with 3build105:48
acheronukshould be something like 1.8.18+git20160320-3d8622c-3build105:48
tsimonq2acheronuk: so my question was, has it already been handled or can I do that again?05:49
acheronukjust checking the ppas...05:49
acheronuknope. nothing there I can see05:50
tsimonq2acheronuk: do you have access to upload my fix?05:50
acheronukas you have a -4 in your ppa, it might reject you uploading -3build1 to ppa05:51
tsimonq2deleted the PPA05:52
tsimonq2it's a throwaway PPA05:52
acheronukI can copy to the kubuntu ppas anything that is fixed, yes05:52
tsimonq2alright :)05:53
tsimonq2acheronuk: why is the package being rebuilt?05:53
acheronukit may have worked by deleting the package and waiting the 20-30 mins for launchpad to delete the sources from disk05:53
tsimonq2(for the changelog entry)05:53
acheronukbut a new ppa also works05:54
acheronukthe package needs rebuilding as the one in the archive was built against old dependency versions05:55
acheronukQt 5.5 etc05:55
acheronukand the newer versions in the staging-plasma ppa cause the package to be removed or become uninstallable as a result05:56
tsimonq2acheronuk: https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/testing-105:57
tsimonq2acheronuk: just uploaded05:57
acheronukso it needs a no change rebuild against those newer packages to work with thsoe05:57
tsimonq2acheronuk: https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/testing-1/+packages05:58
acheronukthat can get copied across making sure that the option "Rebuild the copied sources" is selected, which would then rebuild again in our ppa against the versions there06:03
acheronukas per yofel's comment @21:19 UTC, and backport to xenial would have to be versioned differently. i.e  3build1~ubuntu16.04~ppa106:08
acheronuktsimonq2: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages?field.name_filter=qtcurve&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=06:14
tsimonq2yeah acheronuk 06:30
tsimonq2acheronuk: so I need to upload the Xenial fix?06:31
tsimonq2thanks acheronuk for uploading that then :D06:33
acheronukno probs :)06:33
tsimonq2acheronuk: version in Xenial is 1.8.18+git20160112-0cd6aae-1 , so I have to make it 1.8.18+git20160112-0cd6aae-1build106:34
acheronuktsimonq2: no, you can backport the yakkety one you have done06:35
tsimonq2oh alright06:36
acheronukas something like 1.8.18+git20160320-3d8622c-3build1~ubuntu16.04~ppa106:37
tsimonq2acheronuk: I have a version in mind06:38
acheronukkubuntu keeps to a versioning scheme for ppas and backports, so it's clear they are a backport, a ppa version, and upgrade ok if someone upgrades to the next ubuntu version06:40
tsimonq2alright so I have to change it from what I uploaded? https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/testing-1/+packages06:41
tsimonq2acheronuk: or is it fine as-is?06:41
acheronukit needs to have the ~ after the version you did for yakkety06:41
acheronukthat makes apt/dpkg see it as an earlier version than the YY one you did, so if someone then upgrades to YY the XX one gets replaced06:43
acheronukas said, yesterday yofel suggested 1.8.18+git20160320-3d8622c-3build1~ubuntu16.04~ppa106:43
tsimonq2alright acheronuk 07:10
tsimonq2acheronuk: I'll do that07:10
tsimonq2acheronuk: argh... dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address07:13
acheronukhmmm.... not sure07:13
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> Why would someone rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* after installing some packages in a Docker image?07:19
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I've checked /var/lib/apt/lists after installing somehting and it's empty07:21
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I don't get it07:21
acheronuktsimonq2: ummm..... I get that as just a warning, but not an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/20422182/07:25
acheronukgrrr. or even if I could follow my own suggestion properly, then http://paste.ubuntu.com/20422518/07:29
tsimonq2acheronuk: what OS are you running? what command did you run?07:35
acheronukI am running Xenial, and I ran 'debuild -S -sa' 07:37
tsimonq2I'm running Yakkety07:37
tsimonq2*gets Xenial schroot*07:37
acheronuktsimonq2: should make no difference as far as I know07:38
acheronukclivej does everything while running yakkety07:39
acheronukI've only been doing this a few months, so others may see something obvious I can't right this second07:41
yofelovidiuflorin: that directory contains the apt package list cache (i.e. the files that apt update downloads). You could argue that's data you don't need in a docker image07:50
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> yeah... that's what the doker folks told me07:51
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I hoped for a more detailed explanation07:51
tsimonq2yofel: would you happen to know why I can't build this?07:53
yofelovidiuflorin: well, that folder is 510M on my system, and those are files that you can always download again if you need to install something, so it's really not something you want inside a docker *image*, only in a running container if you need them07:55
yofelas you generally want to keep the image size as small as possible07:55
yofeland if you keep updating the images, those files would also bloat the diff between versions07:56
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I get how for docker that would be a bad thing, but what's in there more precicely?07:57
yofelthe package lists, which are the files that tell apt what packages it can download from which repositories. e.g. /var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_binary-amd64_Packages07:58
yofelplus the package description translations, DEP-11 metadata for icons and components, etc.08:00
tsimonq2acheronuk: would it be okay if I named it 1.8.18+git20160320-3d8622c-3build1~16.04~ppa1 ?08:03
yofelyeah, that'll be fine08:03
acheronuktsimonq2: does that work for you then?08:04
acheronukyofel tsimonq2: maybe the yakkety version of devscripts etc has stricter checks now then?08:05
yofelhm, that's dpkg, not devscripts08:05
yofelbut yeah, probably08:05
tsimonq2yofel, acheronuk: uploaded, building now: https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/testing-1/+packages08:06
* acheronuk goes to look at dpkg changelog08:07
tsimonq2acheronuk: done building, do you wait until it's published to copy or can you do it now?08:13
yofel               if (length $ENV{DEBEMAIL} and $ENV{DEBEMAIL} =~ /\@ubuntu\.com/) {08:14
yofel                   error(g_('Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address'));08:14
yofel               } else {08:14
yofel                   warning(g_('Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address'));08:14
yofel interesting....08:14
acheronuktsimonq2: copied https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages?field.name_filter=qtcurve&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=08:14
tsimonq2acheronuk: so what happens after that PPA?08:16
tsimonq2acheronuk: and is there anything else packaging-related I can do?08:16
acheronuktsimonq2: will end up going into Xenial backports ppa in the end hopefully, and the YY packages into YY if someone with main archive permissions deems them ok08:18
tsimonq2alright :)08:18
tsimonq2acheronuk: I see a bunch of `Newer version available` warnings, is that expected?08:18
tsimonq2for example: qtconnectivity-opensource-src - 5.6.1-2~yakkety+build1 (Newer version available)08:19
acheronuktsimonq2: normally you'd worry on that, but with those packages it's ok08:20
yofelit's because 5.6.1 of that package is in the archive already08:20
yofelwith a higher version than in the PPA08:20
acheronukreason being that ubuntu Qt maintainers uploaded their versions, but the builds failed. but launchpad still sees the newer sources are there08:20
acheronukwhen building in the ppa LP takes the ppa version, as the archive version has no actual built .debs08:22
acheronuktsimonq2: clivejo probably has a better handle on what is currently needed re packaging tasks08:26
tsimonq2clivejo: could I get something else to do? :)08:32
acheronukyofel: so if I had an ubuntu.com email address like simon, it would give me an error?08:34
yofelprobably. I use my kubuntu.org one, so that explains why I never get that08:34
acheronukI can see the logic. sorta. ubuntu uploader and 'ubuntu' in version, but not ubuntu maintainer = wtf (error)08:36
yofelyeah, we just hit a corner case where that's nonsense08:41
acheronuktsimonq2: I can now use that ppa without it removing my qtcurve themes for kde :)08:57
acheronukwhich makes me happy, as I'm not keen on breeze or the qt5 oxgen :D08:57
IrcsomeBot1<Clifford> Has log in time slowed down again in 5.7.2?09:44
soeei have this feeling 09:49
tsimonq2acheronuk: yay! :D09:55
tsimonq2acheronuk, yofel: maybe it would be worth it to file a bug09:56
yofeltsimonq2: what was the context again?09:57
clivejosoee: feeling it has slowed down?09:57
mamarleyclivejo: It seems about the same for me, unless the missing-folderview-desktop bug is triggered.09:57
tsimonq2yofel: can't have Ubuntu revisions because it09:58
mamarleyThat bug is sort of similar to what we were seeing early with 5.6.x when the folderview on the desktop would disappear and it would take a very long time on the splash screen.09:58
clivejoI feel like its delayed by about 15seconds compared to previous versions of plasma09:58
tsimonq2*the maintainer doesn't have an Ubuntu address09:58
tsimonq2clivejo: ^09:58
tsimonq2wait didn't mean to ping you but hello :)09:58
* clivejo waves09:58
soeeclivejo: yes09:58
clivejosorry, just logged on, trying to catch up!09:59
clivejoso many different threads of conversation09:59
yofeltsimonq2: feel free to, IMO that's not worth an error, even if the original intentions were good09:59
tsimonq2yofel: where did you find the code for that?09:59
tsimonq2clivejo: I'm looking for something else to do now :)10:00
tsimonq2yofel: in what package?10:00
tsimonq2alright thanks10:00
mamarleyclivejo: In my case, the problem was that the ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc had lastScreen=-1 for the folderviews.  Obviously, you can't have negative monitors, so once I replaced those values with 0 and 1, it worked fine.10:00
yofeloh, the trello integration for my nick is fixed. yay10:02
tsimonq2clivejo: got anything? :)10:02
jimarvanhey clive10:02
soeemamarley: i had one lastSeenScreen=-1 in that file10:06
soeechanging it doesn't speed up loading10:06
soeehmm but i still have it set to -110:06
mamarleysoee: You may have to shut down Plasma before changing it, or you may not be suffering from the same problem as me.10:07
clivejotsimonq2: well Im working on testing Plasma 5.7.2 on YY10:07
clivejotrying to resolve the installation issues with it10:07
clivejothere is some issue with plasma-dsicover I havent managed to figure out yet10:08
clivejoanyone else see this on YY?10:09
tsimonq2clivejo: that same PPA?10:11
clivejoyou could also look for packaging issues you can fix on KCI10:12
clivejosend us a merge request10:12
tsimonq2what's KCI?10:13
clivejoKubuntu Continious Intregration10:13
clivejoit grabs the latest source code from KDE and combines it with our packaging ( https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git )10:14
tsimonq2aww why does it have to remove LXQt?10:14
tsimonq2now I have to use it in a VM10:15
tsimonq2clivejo: I would highly suggest removing any conflicts with LXQt10:15
clivejothose messages from kubuntu-ci are being generated by KCI10:15
clivejotsimonq2: I dont know enough about LXQt to comment on that10:16
acheronukLXQt are going to have to cope with the Qt 5.6 transtion in YY eventually, if that is the cause10:17
BluesKajHiyas all10:17
acheronukclivejo: I can maybe have a look at that discover conflict later if no-one else does10:18
tsimonq2acheronuk: yeah LXQt uses Qt 5.5.110:19
acheronukclivejo: just now I'm about to go for a pub-lunch, so will be some time10:19
acheronuktsimonq2: Well Qt 5.6 will go in the main archive for YY, so they'll have to cope with it as we are doing10:20
clivejotsimonq2: do you know any of the LXQt people?10:20
tsimonq2clivejo: great friends with them :)10:21
tsimonq2well not really10:21
tsimonq2but I know them10:21
tsimonq2clivejo: I'll do some test builds locally10:22
clivejomaybe you could get in touch and see if they need help transitioning to Qt 5.6.110:22
tsimonq2alright, but like I said, maybe it already works10:23
clivejoI dont personally use it so dont see the conflicts10:23
BluesKajsddm doesn't accept jpegs for background on the login page 10:23
BluesKajon Yakkety10:24
acheronukmaxyz has done a build of  lxqt-qtplugin - 0.10.0-3build1~2 in his ppa today10:24
acheronukso he at least is looking at it10:25
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acheronukok. bbl10:25
tsimonq2ooh let's see10:25
tsimonq2clivejo: let's say foo depends on bar. bar 0.2 is in the PPA but bar 0.1 is in Ubuntu. I upload foo 0.1-1. Does foo use bar 0.1 or 0.2 when building?10:28
tsimonq2(this is in a PPA)10:28
clivejopackagekit : Depends: libpackagekit-glib2-16 (= 0.8.17-4ubuntu6~gcc5.4ubuntu2) but 0.9.5-0ubuntu1 is to be installed10:29
clivejo0.1-1 is debian version10:30
tsimonq2clivejo: but just for example10:31
clivejobut 0.2 is higher so if its in the same PPA, it will build using that10:31
clivejodo you know about epochs?10:31
tsimonq2in what context?10:32
tsimonq2sort of10:32
clivejo!info ark10:33
ubottuark (source: ark): archive utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 421 kB, installed size 1535 kB10:33
clivejo4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 The 4: is an epoch10:33
tsimonq2oh then I don't know10:33
clivejothe -0 is the debian version10:34
clivejoand ubuntu1 is our archive version10:35
clivejowith the 15.12.3 being the upstream KDE version of the package10:35
tsimonq2oh okay10:36
clivejogit pull10:36
tsimonq2I knew what the rest standed for, I just don't know what the 4: means10:37
clivejousually to fix a boo boo someone makes with the version10:37
clivejoie if they made a typo and released 51.12.310:38
clivejothat version will not be upgradeable again until upstream get to a version higher than it10:39
clivejoso the epoch overrides it and allows us to fix the versioning so it is upgradable again10:40
tsimonq2oh okay10:40
clivejocan be confusing10:40
clivejobut essential to understanding you need the epoch for build deps as well10:41
tsimonq2so wait, the 4 means that 51.12.3 can't be upgraded to 51.12.4 and over?10:45
tsimonq2or am I not understanding this correctly?10:45
clivejo51 is just an example10:45
clivejoa typo where someone might have put 51 instead of 1510:46
tsimonq2so I understand the purpose now10:46
clivejobut the next natural version from KDE is 16.0410:46
tsimonq2but why 4?10:46
clivejobut because 51 is greater, it wouldnt allow the upgrade10:46
tsimonq2why not 15 then?10:47
clivejoonce its gone to the archive and install on many systems we cant just change it back10:48
clivejoits rare, but in Kubuntu we have a few :/10:49
clivejoI think an automation script may have messed up in the past, but I dont know the reason10:49
tsimonq2so give me an example of a correct epoch then10:49
clivejowell ark is an example10:51
clivejoit has an epoch of 4:10:51
tsimonq2I guess what is the barrier with 4?10:52
tsimonq2why does it have to be 4?10:52
tsimonq2I'm not understanding that10:53
clivejowell in this case I cant answer that!10:53
clivejoInitial packaging on line 635 of changelog seems to indicate it started off life with an epoch10:54
tsimonq2does it have to universally be 4 and if not, why?10:54
clivejoI think, someone decided to use 410:54
clivejomaybe KDE4 at the time10:54
tsimonq2sorry for not understanding this, but what about in a different package?10:55
clivejoand because we use automation it might been easier to just give all the applications suite a 4: epoch10:55
clivejomost of KDE Applications have an epoch of 4:10:56
tsimonq2I would like to understand what it's preventing. Is it if the version is over 4?10:56
tsimonq2If so, then that isn't right10:56
tsimonq2I mean, what does it prevent?10:56
clivejoit allows the package to be upgradeable again after a mistake in the versioning10:57
clivejosay for example I release 16.07 of my latest app10:58
clivejobut I made a type and instead released version 61.0710:59
clivejoI then release 17.01 of the app in January10:59
clivejobut the archive has version 61.07 which is higher10:59
clivejomy new app will never be upgradeable until the version is greater than 61.0711:00
clivejoso to override that my new version would need an epoch11:00
clivejoie 1:17.0111:01
clivejothis now means my new version will be installed, upgrading version 61.07, the freak package of doom11:02
tsimonq2oh okay11:02
tsimonq2clivejo: then for the next release do you remove the epoch?11:02
clivejoit cant be removed11:03
tsimonq2so then what happens if you do it again?11:03
clivejoif I did another mistake, ie 1:71.0511:03
clivejothen I have to bump the epoch again11:03
clivejoto 2:17.0611:03
clivejoand so forth11:04
tsimonq2oh okay11:04
tsimonq2that makes sense11:04
tsimonq2I get it now :)11:04
tsimonq2clivejo: so why do I need to know this for rebuilds?11:04
clivejoLOL you dont11:04
clivejoyou asked about versions11:04
clivejoand epochs are very important11:05
clivejobut also confusing!11:05
clivejogit fetch santa11:07
tsimonq205:40:51 AM < clivejo> can be confusing11:08
tsimonq205:41:20 AM < clivejo> but essential to understanding you need the epoch for build deps as well11:08
tsimonq2I took that as I needed it for rebuilds XD11:08
tsimonq2but hey, nice to know :)11:08
clivejono, just packaging in general11:08
clivejoits an area that took me a while to get my head around11:09
clivejoIm very bad with numbers11:09
clivejoIm Dyslexic11:09
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tsimonq2clivejo: I think this is failing due to the lack of memory... http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdepim-addons/11:13
clivejoyeah, KCI has "issues"11:14
clivejobut PIM is a beast, noone likes tackling it!11:14
clivejosanta_: was there an issue with kde4libs?11:29
maxyzacheronuk: Mmh, no, that was not me11:33
tsimonq2clivejo: what Qt, non-KDE packages are in the staging-plasma PPA?11:47
tsimonq2clivejo: just all the qt* packages?11:47
santa_clivejo: it was ftbfsing from git/kubuntu_yakkety_archive because of symbols, build logs:11:48
santa_clivejo: ffmpeg thimbs was failing too bacause of a less trivial issue, I have a merge request fixing that one11:51
santa_* ffmpegthumbs11:51
santa_tsimonq2: what was your doubt about versioning, you don't understand the "4:" prefix of some packages?11:52
tsimonq2santa_: he cleared things up for me11:53
santa_[13:07] <clivejo> git fetch santa11:55
santa_ah I see you already merged my stuff, thanks!11:58
yofeldon't we have a bug for the ffmpegthumbs issue?11:59
santa_if we have it I don't know12:02
yofelbug 1574037 - anyone fancy doing an SRU for that?12:02
ubottubug 1574037 in ffmpegthumbs (Ubuntu) "ffmpegthumbs 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 uses the wrong path for plugin libraries" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157403712:02
santa_ah, that's other issue12:02
yofelsanta_: that was fixed in the diff you proposed to merge though12:02
santa_yes, because it uses the new pkg-kde-tools stuff12:03
santa_making the path right12:03
santa_I was planning to prepare a couple of merge requests for things in xenial12:04
santa_(targeted to updates)12:04
yofelsanta_: everyone of that would need an SRU bug associated with it12:05
yofelbut it would be great to have a list of stuff that we should be fixing12:06
* yofel wonders what happened to apps 16.1012:08
yofeler, 16.0812:09
santa_yofel: any document about how the ubuntesque "bureaucracy" works for sru's?12:11
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates12:11
yofelsee #Procedure12:11
yofelclivejo: FYI: I released ffmpegthumbs to yakkety so ^ bug is fixed12:17
jimarvanI should download yakkety to virtualbox and start testing12:19
jimarvanfor things you need confirmation12:19
acheronukmaxyz: I meant Mirv, sorry!12:33
acheronukclivejo: I'm not dyslexic, & did my degree/PhD in physics/maths, and debian versioning still confuses me at times!12:38
Mirvtsimonq2: acheronuk: clivejo: yeah it looks like all LXQt bits compile just fine at least, testing welcome from silo 2412:38
tsimonq2Mirv: ooh! are you working with that now?12:39
Mirvalso KDE bits should be ready, testing welcome too although I'll test myself probably on Monday :)12:39
Mirvtsimonq2: well for the Qt 5.6 upgrade I need to rebuild everything using Qt private headers so yes I'm rebuilding all the packages. now finally it starts to seem pretty good, with s390x/powerpc issues solved during my leave and other fixes I've been doing this week.12:40
MirvAFAIK https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-024 is ready for Unity 8, Plasma 5 and LxQt, but it's all very fresh and not much tested at all yet12:40
acheronukMirv: we've been test compiling with our own backported Qt5.6.1 builds. Once you think yours are done then we should sync up so that we are both using whatever candidate builds that will go into Yakkety 12:42
tsimonq2Mirv: I'll use that PPA and try to rebuild some LXQt packages12:42
tsimonq2Mirv: I'm running LXQt right now so I'll test :)12:42
Mirvacheronuk: sans testing, some missing -gles Qt twin packages, a Qt Creator 4 transition (which I plan to do first), the PPA should be complete for sanity testing now. I will probably next week switch the "Approved" switch in that silo, not to land to archives yet but to get the autopkgtests results which might reveal lots of fixes needed elsewhere.12:43
Mirvso yes it should be near final now, even though it might be 1-2 weeks from actual landing, depending on how many surprises are found12:44
MirvQt always manages to surprise :)12:44
acheronukindeed it does!12:44
acheronukMirv: thanks for that info :)12:47
tsimonq2Mirv: I'll be test rebuilding and uploading to https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/lxqt-qt-5.6.1 , then if it builds correctly, I'm installing it on my system12:53
Mirvok, thanks acheronuk and tsimonq212:56
acheronuktsimonq2: that would be good. I've played a bit with that when razor-qt was a thing, but not much on lxqt recently13:04
tsimonq2acheronuk: well I'm running it right now13:05
tsimonq2acheronuk: and I want to enable the Kubuntu Staging PPA without things breaking, because I have 2 desktops on this install, KDE Plasma and LXQt13:05
acheronuktsimonq2: currently I have xubuntu/xfce4 as a fallback DE on most machines. switching that to lxqt might be nice13:07
tsimonq2acheronuk: Lubuntu (team I'm a part of) switches to LXQt within a year or two13:08
tsimonq2acheronuk: I can get you instructions for that, depending on your release and distro :)13:08
acheronukyeah, that was the 'gap' I fell down. razor-qt going nowhere, and lxqt not seeming ready. or at least it appeared so, even if that was not the case13:09
clivejoanyone testing apps 16.04.3 on YY?13:50
ahoneybunhow close are we13:51
ahoneybunfor XX13:51
ahoneybunwell you are13:51
clivejowell looks like ffmpegthumbs are fixed13:51
clivejoI was going to do a backport if got the all clear?13:52
ahoneybunoh only on YY atm?13:52
clivejoyes, YY is dev and we do that first13:53
ahoneybunI only have XX on all machines13:53
ahoneybunplus don't have my laptop power cable13:53
clivejowow Im just on fire these days13:55
clivejoI, Liliane Donated ( 2,000,000 USD )Two million dollars to you13:55
clivejoluck that, Ive almost spend the last money13:56
clivejoyofel: you uploaded ffmpegthumbs to the archive?14:03
clivejothe fresh one built today with santa's patch?14:03
clivejooh cool14:03
clivejoI preparing to backport 16.04.3 to XX, that ok?14:04
yofelyeah, please do. Then we can use yakkety for 16.08 once the tars are up14:04
clivejojust doing a git pull 14:05
clivejoI should have all the tarballs locally, so shouldnt take long14:05
tsimonq2Mirv: builds fine, updating now14:07
jimarvansee ya later peeps14:14
clivejojimarvan: you coming to party?14:15
acheronukdid someone sort something for qtwebengine for apps 16.08?14:15
jimarvani cannot :(14:20
jimarvan22:30 I will be back home. I have kickboxing now every Monday and Friday 20:30-22:0014:20
jimarvansee ya later on14:22
tsimonq2this is weird14:37
tsimonq2clivejo: so I have LXQt mostly rebuilt for Qt 5.6.114:37
tsimonq2and so I added the Kubuntu Staging Plasma PPA back14:38
tsimonq2like I originally wanted it14:38
tsimonq2it removes lxqt-config because apparently lxqt-config depends on libkf5screen614:38
tsimonq2it's not a direct dependency, and I don't know what still might be14:39
yofelit should be a direct dependency14:40
yofel$ apt-cache depends lxqt-config14:41
yofel  Depends: libkf5screen614:41
yofelNeeds to be rebuilt against libkf5screen714:41
tsimonq2yofel: so do I need to enable the Kubuntu Staging PPA when I rebuild then?14:42
tsimonq2yofel: yay! it works! thanks a lot! :)15:02
tsimonq2so hello from LXQt with Qt 5.6.1!15:11
soeeis this some king to spaceship ? :D15:11
tsimonq2huh? :D15:12
clivejoany major changes?15:12
tsimonq2it's pretty much the same15:12
tsimonq2went into my Plasma session, laggy15:12
tsimonq2it had a bit of slowness to it15:13
tsimonq2and I have 16 GB of RAM and a 6 core processor15:13
tsimonq2clivejo: is that to be expected?15:14
clivejowhat version of plasma?15:14
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tsimonq2clivejo: 5.7.215:22
clivejowonder were that is coming from15:23
clivejoI meant the lag :P15:24
tsimonq2oh lol15:25
clivejoso many emails!15:26
clivejook, I have a few lastScreen=-115:31
clivejoand replaced with 015:31
clivejowish this upload would hurry up so I can reboot15:35
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clivejooh sugar lumps16:04
clivejoneed FW5.21 or better for Apps on Xenial16:05
acheronukclivejo: one prob is plasma-discover 5.7.2 depends packagekit >= 1.016:08
acheronukand some obsolete plasma-discover 5.6.5 packages maybe16:09
acheronukand http://paste.ubuntu.com/20468770/16:12
tsimonq2clivejo: I know you said that I could fix build errors, but is there anything *specific* you would like me to look at?16:17
acheronuktsimonq2: http://kci.pangea.pub/ xenial or yakkety fix tabs?16:21
acheronukI've been gradually trying to fix things to make plasma desktop etc build on there, but any failure is not good16:23
tsimonq2acheronuk: we have a common error16:24
tsimonq2acheronuk: usr/share/appdata/org.kde.ark.PACKAGE.xml is missing16:24
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acheronukchrist! "Build Queue (327)" zzzzz16:25
acheronuktsimonq2: yes, missing appstream data a common one16:26
tsimonq2acheronuk: ooh, how do I fix that? :D16:26
acheronuktsimonq2: if you look at the buildlog in the install section, you can see where it's been moved to16:28
acheronukin this case it's now /usr/share/metainfo/org.kde.ark.appdata.xml16:28
tsimonq2oh then that's easy16:28
* tsimonq2 fxes16:28
acheronukyes, the .install file would need updating16:29
tsimonq2acheronuk: do I take the package from the CI PPA?16:29
acheronukkubuntu packaging is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git16:31
tsimonq2acheronuk: how do I submit patches then?16:32
tsimonq2acheronuk: and what branch goes into CI?16:32
acheronukthe workflow yofel had me doing until I had commit access was:16:33
acheronuk* clone the package git repo16:33
acheronuk* checkout the branch (i.e. kubuntu_unstable for CI)16:34
acheronuk* make the fix16:34
acheronuk* do a commit16:34
acheronuk* push that branch to your own personal git repo on launchpad16:35
acheronuk* then use launchpad web interface to propose a merge with the kubuntu packaging branck16:36
acheronukinstructions here for setting up git/ssh for kununtu https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging16:36
tsimonq2acheronuk: I can't access that page16:38
tsimonq2it requires a login16:38
acheronuktsimonq2: you need an account from: https://identity.kde.org/16:39
tsimonq2acheronuk: where on that page?16:44
acheronukRegister - top right16:45
tsimonq2acheronuk: no I'm already there16:45
tsimonq2acheronuk: where on the pad are the instructions?16:46
acheronuksorry, you didn't mean that!16:46
acheronuk"For easy cloning of LP git repositories, put this in your ~/.gitconfig (where USER is your launchpad username):"16:47
acheronuk^^^ that section16:47
tsimonq2oh okay16:48
acheronukthat way to clone a packages repo, you just do 'git clone kubuntu:packagename'16:48
acheronukso simple as 'git clone kubuntu:ark'16:49
tsimonq2oh that's convenient16:50
acheronukyep, that's the point :)16:50
tsimonq2acheronuk: do I have to make a debian/changelog entry as well or do you guys do that?16:51
acheronukyes, you would16:51
acheronuk'dch' will append an entry16:52
acheronukdon't need a whole new entry, as this is UNRELEASED16:53
acheronukeventually you git diff would look something like this which I did for plasma last night https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/commit/?id=67acd6880767fe7bdc3f1e1164c7d7646b52883a16:55
acheronukfor no trivial changes you should/could test the building of the package with pbuilder, but that is a slight faff to set up16:57
acheronuk*non trivial16:57
tsimonq2so wait would I just replace the path for that file or copy the whole usr/share/metainfo dir like you did?16:58
tsimonq2s/copy/add an entry for/16:58
acheronukjust the directory should work, as it catches anything in there17:00
acheronukit will only be appstream data in there, so you'd want it whatever the name is17:01
acheronukgit diff | pastbininit will give you a pastebin link for your changes before you do anything else with them17:02
tsimonq2acheronuk: so committed and pushed, what now?17:02
tsimonq2oh no lol17:03
* tsimonq2 iks fast17:03
acheronukno prob, you are ahead of me :)17:03
tsimonq2so what now?17:03
acheronukhave you a link to the repo you pushed to?17:03
tsimonq2acheronuk: so are you going to grab my commit and push it to the ark repo?17:06
tsimonq2acheronuk: or do you have comments?17:06
acheronukreally you should keep the .install file entries sorted alphabetically, but should not matter here17:06
tsimonq2acheronuk: so should I move it?17:07
acheronukok. yes, you may as well17:07
tsimonq2acheronuk: done17:09
tsimonq2take a look again?17:09
acheronuksee above ^^ wrap and sort tool is handy :)17:09
acheronukbut it may change other files if they also are a bit unsorted17:10
tsimonq2did nothing17:10
tsimonq2acheronuk: but I pushed the change17:11
acheronukif everything is right, it won't17:11
tsimonq2acheronuk: and everything is right17:11
tsimonq2acheronuk: so https://git.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+git/kubuntu-ark/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=59cbe839a6355536309a0beb10315835052eccca17:12
tsimonq2what now?17:12
acheronuk2 secs - next bit needs to be done from LP web interface17:12
acheronukok here: https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+git/kubuntu-ark17:13
acheronukyou click through to the branch17:13
acheronukso to https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+git/kubuntu-ark/+ref/kubuntu_unstable17:14
* tsimonq2 nods17:14
acheronukyou should see some links on that page to propose a merge?17:15
acheronukI can't, as it's not MY repo17:15
tsimonq2uhh no17:16
tsimonq2acheronuk: do you have access to the Kubuntu Ark Git repo?17:16
tsimonq2acheronuk: do the merge locally then push17:18
tsimonq2well I can't submit a merge proposal...17:18
acheronukthere should be a link: Propose for merging17:18
tsimonq2well there isn't one17:19
acheronukno? http://i.imgur.com/5URPGBw.png17:20
tsimonq2ohh I know what the problem is17:21
yofel~tsimonq2/+git/kubuntu-ark is missing the project. It has to be ~tsimonq2/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kubuntu-ark17:21
tsimonq2I pushed to junk17:21
tsimonq2yeah yofel got it17:21
acheronukah. oops. missed that17:22
yofelhm, discover needing packagkit is a prolem :S17:23
yofel packagekit | 1.1.1-1ubuntu1                  | yakkety-proposed | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x17:24
tsimonq2acheronuk: Target reference path? huh?17:24
yofelso I guess we're getting another attempt at that17:24
ahoneybunximion: found a laptop with Tanglu 3 on it lol17:24
acheronuktsimonq2: http://i.imgur.com/z71Prlo.png17:24
ximionahoneybun: \o/17:25
tsimonq2ok okay17:25
tsimonq2ahoneybun: hello :)17:25
ximionnot too surprising, our userbase isn't small17:25
ahoneybungetting Ubuntu back for someone17:25
ximionit's only small in comparison with Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu, ...17:25
acheronuktartget ref path is tha branch you want to merge with17:25
ahoneybunhey tsimonq217:25
tsimonq2acheronuk: https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kubuntu-ark/+merge/30092917:26
acheronukthe people on the kubuntu packagers team list should now get an email asking them to review your merge to approve it17:27
tsimonq2acheronuk: aren't you on that team? :)17:28
acheronukit's a bit of a faff at 1st, but it's the best option LP has with it's git repos at the moment17:28
yofelonly direct team members get a mail - which he isn't. He could do the merge though17:29
acheronuktsimonq2: I am since a couple of weeks ago17:29
acheronukyofel: I got an email17:30
yofeloh, interesting17:30
* yofel wonders why that didn't work for him then..17:30
acheronukI can't remember how to do the merge though!17:31
* acheronuk goes to look in irc logs17:31
acheronuktsimonq2: that means you can propose as many as you like, and don't have to catch us in here or email us for each one17:32
tsimonq2alright :)17:33
acheronukyofel: I did deliberately subscribe to the LP mailing list for any extra team memberships I got?17:34
yofelpackagers doesn't have a ML though, but it might've been a setting that I missed17:35
tsimonq2argh these merge proposals just don't look right17:40
tsimonq2(the second one I'm working on)17:41
tsimonq2oh I'm dumb... :P17:41
acheronukyofel: once approved, would that be 'git clone kubuntu:ark; cd ark; git checkout kubuntu_unstable; git remote add tsimonq2 lp:~tsimonq2/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kubuntu-ark/; git fetch tsimonq2; git merge tsimonq2/kubuntu_unstable; git push'17:44
tsimonq2it would be the same as doing that I think17:45
tsimonq2acheronuk: I think you can do it in Launchpad?17:45
tsimonq2but otherwise that looks correct if my Git skills are good17:45
acheronuktsimonq2: nope. we found we couldn't. LP haven't implemented that part yet :(17:46
tsimonq2oh :(17:46
ahoneybuntsimonq2: Rick is having packaging classes17:46
ahoneybunyou want to know the packaging "tiers"?17:47
tsimonq2ahoneybun: so how do you up a tier? what even is that system?17:47
clivejoI have three merge requests for the same package17:48
tsimonq2acheronuk: don't merge yet!17:48
tsimonq2don't merge artikulate17:48
acheronuktsimonq2: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Policies#Kubuntu_Teams_.28.28NEW.29.2917:48
acheronukI got fully Ninja'd up a week or 2 ago17:49
acheronukbut I'm still learning!17:49
acheronuktsimonq2: I'm not merging anything until I'm sure I can do it right. Not tried on one of these requests before17:50
tsimonq2acheronuk: that long thing was correct17:51
* tsimonq2 tries locally to make sure17:51
tsimonq2I just left out git push17:53
ahoneybuntsimonq2: well yellow belts are the first step, then you become a full ninja17:53
ahoneybunthen kubuntu developer17:53
clivejohummm what on earth is going on in artikulate17:53
ahoneybunfrom that link that acheronuk gave17:54
tsimonq2clivejo: that's me I thinl :)17:54
tsimonq2clivejo: you talking about my couple of MPs I opened and closed? :P17:54
clivejooh request has been removed17:54
clivejotsimonq2: yes17:54
tsimonq2clivejo: all good, I was dumb for a minute there :P17:54
acheronuktsimonq2: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/ark/commit/?id=59cbe839a6355536309a0beb10315835052eccca17:55
* tsimonq2 gets emails :D17:55
yofelacheronuk: yeah, that's the correct procedure17:56
acheronukyofel: it's what  you said to be back in the irc logs. just had to find it17:56
acheronuk*to me17:57
acheronuktsimonq2: that commit should also trigger a build job in the KCI17:57
tsimonq2ahoneybun: I have a few uploads in the Ubuntu archive, I know the packaging process well, and I want to start "training". Approve me? :)17:57
tsimonq2\o/ ahoneybun 17:57
tsimonq2whoops, \o/ acheronuk 17:57
tsimonq2ahoneybun: (for yellow belt)17:58
ahoneybunI believe it would be a council choice17:58
ahoneybunnot mine alone17:58
tsimonq2ahoneybun: how do I submit an application then?17:59
yofelyellow belt isn't council matters, as it doesn't actually give you much permissions17:59
yofeljust go and add him17:59
ahoneybunwelcome on board tsimonq218:01
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clivejotsimonq2: if you setup a kubuntu git shortname you can clone easier18:04
* tsimonq2 did18:04
clivejofor example I use git clone kubuntu:ark18:04
clivejolots easier :)18:04
clivejoand also if you can push to your own git minus the kubuntu- that would make my life easier too :)18:05
tsimonq2so what's the process once merged?18:06
tsimonq2I see #158 on http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_ark/ is waiting for "Upstream"18:06
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tsimonq2is that just waiting for ark to build in the PPA?18:07
clivejoit should be queue in KCI18:07
acheronukKCI will do a merge job and make a build job for the ppa18:07
acheronukKCI has a big job queue at the moment though18:08
tsimonq2any chance I can see where that queue is? :)18:08
clivejoall going well, you will see a KCI telling us that ark is FIXED18:09
clivejo#kubuntu-ci is a channel for announcements too18:10
ahoneybun244 oh boy18:10
clivejocan be handy to search there without human chat getting in the way 18:10
yofel244 isn't much, the nightly job triggers >400 or so18:11
yofelalthough, it's quite a lot for this time of day18:11
acheronukit would go down a lot quicker if LP was faster and more reliable18:11
clivejoyofel: you mind if I clear the queue and let it build the packages they working on?18:12
yofelnot particulary18:13
acheronuktsimonq2: welcome to yellow belts by the way :)18:14
tsimonq2thanks :)18:15
acheronuktsimonq2: I have a feeling that very soon you will be showing me how to do stuff. lol18:16
acheronukclivejo: reminds me, I was going to do some howto slides for that merge proposal thing18:22
tsimonq2moar merge proposals! \o/ https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kubuntu-blinken/+merge/30093718:22
clivejoI didnt get a request for that one18:24
acheronukI just did18:25
acheronuknext dojo is?18:30
acheronukThur 28th?18:31
clivejodont think I got an event card for it18:31
tsimonq2I think you guys get that I'll have another PR :P18:32
acheronuktsimonq2: http://kci.pangea.pub/view/yakkety%20FIX/job/yakkety_unstable_ark/60/18:33
tsimonq2oh sorry MP18:33
tsimonq2I'm used to saying PR18:33
yofelPR is the offical git term18:33
yofelLP people are just stuck with MP18:34
tsimonq2acheronuk: and I know, I'm watching it :P http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_ark/158/console18:34
acheronuktsimonq2: and https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+packages?field.name_filter=ark&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=18:34
acheronukit's very satisfying making a git change and watching all the gears spin up to build the changes you just made :)18:36
acheronukif LP doesn't crap out, that is18:36
tsimonq2I know :)18:37
tsimonq2dolphin MP? :)18:40
tsimonq2man this is so awesome watching this all18:41
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> /me watches his email get hit up with merges lol18:42
acheronuktsimonq2: you know where debian and Neon keep their git repos for packaging kde?18:43
tsimonq2wxl: hey18:44
wxltsimonq2: didn't have to join ;)18:44
tsimonq2I see :)18:44
acheronuktsimonq2: quite often, there will already be git fixes for issues there18:44
tsimonq2wxl wants to get a yellow belt, right? :D18:44
tsimonq2yeah acheronuk 18:44
tsimonq2acheronuk: I checked18:44
wxlyes please! i need packaging training and would love to help out with kubuntu18:45
tsimonq2wxl: I'll walk you through what I've been doing for the last few hours :)18:45
wxltsimonq2: for now just point me in the right direction. i'll do the application process or whatever later on18:45
tsimonq2wxl: look at the process for getting a Yellow belt :)18:46
tsimonq2Kubuntu Ninjas Yellow Belts is anyone who is training up to become a Kubuntu Ninja18:46
tsimonq2Get some training in packaging or show you know how to make a package in Ubuntu18:46
tsimonq2Apply to join the team18:46
tsimonq2~kubuntu-council can add you18:46
acheronuktsimonq2: ok. just though I would mention is case :)18:46
tsimonq2(tjhe last 4 lines are bullet points)18:46
tsimonq2membership lasts for a year18:46
tsimonq2acheronuk: yep, thanks :)18:47
wxloh ok so i need training first18:47
wxlok how do i get that? XD18:47
tsimonq2I/we teach you :)18:47
acheronukfor starters: http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-dojo-ninja-developer-training/18:47
wxloh goodie18:47
acheronukand in here :)18:47
wxlacheronuk: so first, i go back in time? XD18:48
tsimonq2isn't there another dojo coming up acheronuk ?18:48
acheronukI think #3 is next thurs?18:48
* wxl clicks all the links in desperation18:48
wxlneed an invitation for the G+ stream18:49
tsimonq2wxl: it's not on G+18:49
wxlso yeah, not seeing anything18:49
tsimonq2it's on BigBlueButton18:49
wxlbut i'll be there if i can figure out when it is XD18:49
acheronukwxl: not got too far with #1 or #2 to be honest, so you can catch up easily18:49
tsimonq2wxl: so first, do you know how to download and build a source package?18:50
acheronukRick Timmis was doing slides for the next one the other day, but he seems off IRC today18:50
wxltsimonq2: yep18:50
tsimonq2wxl: you have read the packaging guide? 18:51
wxltsimonq2: yep18:51
wxland i did the hello package18:51
acheronukwxl: well, with some technical hitches on #1, that is about as far as #2 got18:51
tsimonq2acheronuk: let's just teach him here ;)18:51
tsimonq2(or get him started)18:52
acheronuktsimonq2: that as well, certainly18:52
wxlmy problem is applying what the guide taught me to more complicated situations, i think18:52
tsimonq2acheronuk: what else does he need to know to be good to go for "Get some training in packaging or show you know how to make a package in Ubuntu" ?18:52
tsimonq2yeah I see what you mean wxl 18:52
wxli had an idea of packaging my friend's node-based arduino ide and i just got stymied18:53
acheronukget set up on launchpad with gpg and ssh keys?18:54
tsimonq2acheronuk: can you rebuild xenial_unstable_dolphin ? it's an error unrelated to the package18:54
tsimonq2wxl: have you read the Debian Policy manual?18:55
wxli also have lofty dreams of understanding how to get a package submitted for the very first time to debian and taking it all the way downstream18:55
tsimonq2oooh it's a good read :)18:55
acheronukkde identity account?18:55
wxlacheronuk: is that what i'd use for making bug reports?18:55
tsimonq2clivejo: can you rebuild xenial_unstable_dolphin ? it's an error unrelated to the package18:56
clivejotsimonq2: done18:56
acheronukwxl: not quite the same, no.18:56
wxlacheronuk: link me to account creation page then?18:56
tsimonq2wxl: you don't have freedom of username on that site :(18:56
tsimonq2wxl: you'll see what I mean18:57
acheronukif you have a bugs.kde.org account, you should use the same email you used for that18:57
acheronukas I think they can link the 2 up later if required, and that makes it easier18:58
wxlactually the one i have for bugs is my work, so nevermind18:58
acheronukthey can sort it out is not I think18:59
acheronuk*if not18:59
* tsimonq2 is afk for a few mins18:59
wxloh i guess that's not terrible18:59
acheronukwith the identity account you should be able to read the kubuntu packagers notepad https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging19:00
wxlaw man19:02
wxlprofile picture can't handle transparency booo19:02
wxli got some reading to do19:03
wxlonce i have my lunch break acheronuk :)19:03
acheronukwxl: no probs. I could do with dinner!19:03
sick_rimmitHi Folks19:04
wxlacheronuk: then brexit stage left? sorry, couldn't resist ;)19:04
sick_rimmitKubuntu Party is happening19:04
acheronukthe docs aren't as up to date or complete as they could be19:04
tsimonq2sick_rimmit: now?19:04
sick_rimmitRoom 119:05
wxlis this the dojo thingy?19:05
tsimonq2sick_rimmit: eating some food but I'll be there in a bit19:05
sick_rimmitPassword: welcome19:05
wxlCongratulations and welcome to the Bike Friday community. It was nice talking with you about your upcoming Bike Friday and thanks for the order.19:05
wxlI have your completed bike design & invoice information for you in the attachments; please review to be sure all parts, sizing, and accessories are listed as you expect them. Everything looks good on this end. 19:05
wxlYour bike should ship within a plus or minus five business day window of DATE. Note Ground shipping is usually 5-7 additional business days. You will get a tracking number from us automatically when it's on the way. If we run into a situation where we are unable to make your promise date, we'll contact you. Otherwise, assume your bike order is proceeding like normal.19:05
acheronuksick_rimmit: ahhhh... I'll on there shortly. food needed as well.....19:05
wxlAn important consideration about timing:  once your bicycle begins the production process, any changes made closer than 3 weeks from your ship date may not be possible. The things we can change for you we will but it may result in a service charge if it requires someone's time away from other tasks to expedite it through. If you need to make any changes or add anything, please let me know as soon as 19:05
wxlwrong window19:05
wxlso sorry :(19:05
tsimonq2wxl: no this is an informal party but sick_rimmit is the same guy who does the dojo19:05
wxloh cool19:06
wxlsick_rimmit: when's the next dojo?19:06
wxl(also for the curious, yes, i work for a bicycle manufacturer)19:06
acheronukdojo is next Thurs19:10
wxlacheronuk: same time?19:11
acheronukjust checking19:12
acheronukwxl: we'll get the time to you when have it19:23
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/biMNEftf/file_281.webp19:23
ahoneybunfixes everywhere19:31
tsimonq2clivejo: the failure on xenial_unstable_gpgmepp is a one time error, rebuild please?19:39
tsimonq2thanks clivejo 19:40
tsimonq2hey clivejo, what PPAs are enabled in building https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable ? or are there none?19:44
tsimonq2(or anyone else who can answer, sorry for pinging clive specifically)19:44
clivejoshould tell you in the console output19:44
tsimonq2hm okay19:45
clivejousually just the archive and the unstable PPA19:46
tsimonq2alright :)19:46
clivejoacheronuk: mind taking a look at apps 16.04.3 ?19:49
tsimonq2clivejo: for the fix for gwenview, it wants a package that has 16.04~ , the correct action would be to update that to 16.04.3~ correct?19:54
clivejothe .3 are bugfix releases19:57
clivejoso no major changes19:57
clivejoso mightnt matter that much to be honest19:57
tsimonq2clivejo: well it's trying to depend on a package with the version: 4:16.04.3+p16.10+git20160722.0723-019:59
clivejoyeah thats our KCI versioning19:59
tsimonq2clivejo: so that needs to be adjusted in the gewnview deps20:00
acheronukMissing build dependencies: libkf5kipi-dev (>= 16.04~) ?20:03
tsimonq2but the thing I'm stumped on is it isn't a direct dep20:03
tsimonq2well I mean it is, but not in the control file20:04
yofelyes, but we have several dependency layers, so it's just stuck on something intermediate package20:05
acheronukthe version in XX KCI and the archive is 15.12.220:05
yofeland apt is very non-descriptive for dependeny chain issues20:05
acheronukbecause the build of newer ones in kci has been failing for a long time20:05
acheronukfix libkf5kipi in XX KCI, and you will then get the dep to build gwenview20:06
tsimonq2acheronuk: oh I'm dumb20:07
tsimonq2I'm looking at a Xenial log...20:07
tsimonq2thanks for pointing that out20:07
tsimonq2acheronuk: how do I fix it? why is it in the CI PPA if it isn't on CI?20:10
tsimonq2I mean, if it's failing, shouldn't it be on CI?20:11
acheronukThat I have not seen before20:13
tsimonq2clivejo: rebuild xenial_unstable_marble please?20:15
acheronukHas been failing for a long time, hence the last successful build is that old 15.12 version20:15
tsimonq2I know, but it's failing with the Launchpad error20:15
tsimonq2acheronuk: marbles is also caught up with that error20:18
acheronukwill have to check with people who know more on CI failures20:19
tsimonq2uhh qtcurve hasn't been built since July 420:19
* tsimonq2 builds locally to test20:20
acheronukqtcurve only rarely has changes in git20:21
tsimonq2acheronuk: yes but why not build it?20:23
yofelhm,     20:23
yofeldef validate_epochs(old_epoch, new_epoch)20:23
yofel      return if old_epoch == new_epoch20:23
yofellet me clone libkipi20:24
yofelok, so something is very wrong in our automation tooling20:25
yofel libkf5kipi | 15.12.3-0ubuntu1 | yakkety/universe | source20:25
yofellibkf5kipi (4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium20:25
acheronuktsimonq2: looks a different named package: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+packages?field.name_filter=qtcurve&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=20:26
acheronukone we were doing is just called qtcurve20:26
clivejoyofel: should I move qtcurve to LP?20:28
acheronukone good thing is, getting someone new to look at stuff highlights these things others might have passed over20:33
clivejoyofel: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/libkipi/tree/debian/changelog?h=kubuntu_unstable20:34
yofelI'm fixing packaging-exceptions.json20:34
yofelthat's broken20:34
yofelI still believe the tooling is what broke it20:35
acheronukonly Xenial it fails on https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+packages?field.name_filter=kipi&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= 20:36
acheronukand has for a long time20:36
clivejoIll remove the epoch packages in KCI Unstable20:37
yofelyou will also have to delete them from staging-*20:38
yofeland I'll send a mail to the ML so that everyone that's using staging knows that they need to force-downgrade a couple packages on their systems20:39
yofelclivejo: so, what I found broken were: baloo-widgets5 libkf5kface libkf5sane libkgeomap20:40
yofelat least that's all apps, so our backports aren't broken yet20:41
tsimonq2new MP! \o/20:45
yofelhm, why is libkgeomap not in the ppa...20:46
* tsimonq2 shoots a wild https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kubuntu-plasma-sdk/+merge/300950 in clivejo's direction20:46
yofellibkgeomap-16.04.3.tar.xz is a thing, but package-name-list doesn't see it...20:47
yofelwhy does that stupid thing have yet another hardcoded blacklist in it *****-.-20:48
acheronuktsimonq2: It needed to be fix, so good in the long run!20:51
acheronukI have no Ruby :(20:54
clivejowho did that?  Line 20:   "libkgeomap": None,20:55
yofelclivejo: git blame20:56
tsimonq2can we rebuild xenial_unstable_kcron ?20:57
tsimonq2Launchpad error20:57
yofeltsimonq2: done20:57
tsimonq2ruh roh, the kind of fixes I've been doing need to be reversed here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/274465810/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kdenlive_4%3A16.04.3+p16.04+git20160722.1124-0_BUILDING.txt.gz20:58
yofelok, libkgeomap in the list now, lets package it for 16.0820:58
yofeltsimonq2: hm, no, that's another case of appstream -> metainfo rename20:59
tsimonq2yofel: but then what's wrong?21:00
yofeldh_install: kdenlive-data missing files: usr/share/appdata21:00
yofeldh_install: usr/share/metainfo/kdenlive.appdata.xml exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere21:00
yofelisn't that the thing you've been fixing?21:00
tsimonq2I don't think so21:00
tsimonq2*checks again*21:00
yofeltsimonq2: you linked kdenlive21:00
tsimonq2oh sorry21:01
clivejoyofel: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/commit/?id=19d1c0e9fff53985dfdf5d4cbebfd690464b095021:01
clivejoJon killed it21:01
clivejobut why?21:01
tsimonq2yofel: I haven't worked on kdenlive (yet)21:01
yofelclivejo: dunno21:01
yofelhm, no, my ruby script now fails with other errors. So I at least got the authentication right21:02
yofelI'll just do this by hand and continue another time21:02
tsimonq2yofel: re kdenlive, it's failing because of the conversion21:04
tsimonq2dh_install: kdenlive-data missing files: usr/share/appdata21:04
tsimonq2dh_install: usr/share/metainfo/kdenlive.appdata.xml exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere21:04
yofelyes, so just fix the install file to install metainfo?21:05
clivejocould you send list of them here please, didnt quite catch it21:05
tsimonq2oh that's right, geez21:05
tsimonq2yofel: yakkety_unstable_baloo-widgets is failing because it ran out of memory... :/21:06
yofelclivejo: baloo-widgets5 libkf5kface libkf5sane libkgeomap libkf5kipi21:07
acheronuktsimonq2: do you know pyqt?21:07
yofellibkgeomap isn't up, so that's good21:07
tsimonq2acheronuk: no21:07
tsimonq2what is it?21:07
clivejofrom unstable and staging?21:07
acheronuktsimonq2: what the kubuntu installer kde front is done with21:08
acheronuktsimonq2: I thought you wouldn't, but asked on the off chance21:08
acheronuktsimonq2: it needs porting from pyqt4 to pyqt521:09
yofeltsimonq2: would lubuntu be interested in using the Qt frontend eventually?21:10
clivejoyofel: I uploaded kipi without the epoch to YY and XX staging-apps21:10
tsimonq2yofel: we are switching to LXQt so yes21:10
yofelok, something to keep in mind then21:11
tsimonq2yofel: and I'm really not the one who makes decisions about this, Julien does, gilir@ubuntu.com :)21:11
tsimonq2he's our development team lead21:11
acheronuktsimonq2: at the moment unless ported, we will lose the pretty slideshow you watch while the iso installs21:12
tsimonq2acheronuk: dropping Qt or GTK?21:13
acheronukpyqt4 has dropped it's QtWebkit support, which the slides need in the QT/kde frontend21:14
acheronuktsimonq2: at the moment so the YY installer doesn't crash, we've had to disable the slideshow :(21:15
yofelok, kci.yaml updated21:15
acheronuktsimonq2: pyqt5 has the support21:15
yofelnow how do I run the update again..21:15
yofelFYI: I'm running a projects update on jenkins. So it might interrupt something21:17
tsimonq2acheronuk: so they are dropping GTK?21:18
tsimonq2acheronuk: or Qt?21:18
tsimonq2acheronuk: and :(21:18
acheronuktsimonq2: GTK is unaffected21:18
acheronuktsimonq2: it's the QT4 frontend only with the problem21:19
acheronuktsimonq2: so ubuntu/xubuntu etc are fine21:19
tsimonq2acheronuk: oh that sucks21:20
tsimonq2acheronuk: what does Lubuntu and Kubuntu use?21:20
tsimonq2(or does Lubuntu use GTK and Kubuntu uses Qt?)21:20
yofelwhat you just said I believe21:20
acheronuktsimonq2: kubuntu = QT4/pyqt421:20
acheronuktsimonq2: I have no idea on lubuntu21:20
tsimonq2acheronuk: so what's the issue then?21:21
acheronukit is an eon since I installed that21:21
tsimonq2yofel: kdenlive incoming21:22
acheronuktsimonq2: pyqt4 has dropped the QtWebit support the slides need, so a frontend using that can't have them work21:22
acheronuktsimonq2: pyqt5 is staying with support, so we need to port our installer frontend to that21:23
tsimonq2acheronuk: so now what?21:23
tsimonq2oh okay21:23
tsimonq2and you need help? :)21:23
acheronuktsimonq2: I don't know pyqt4/5 hardly at all21:23
tsimonq2acheronuk: I don't know it21:23
tsimonq2acheronuk: I know Python though21:23
acheronuktsimonq2: and people who did/do have left21:23
tsimonq2acheronuk: what's the package name?21:24
tsimonq2I'll take a look :)21:24
tsimonq2(but no promises)21:24
acheronuktsimonq2: ubiquity-frontend-kde I think?21:24
acheronukalso see: http://pyqt.sourceforge.net/Docs/PyQt5/pyqt4_differences.html21:25
tsimonq2acheronuk: I'll look this weekend21:28
acheronuktsimonq2: if lubuntu/lxqt want a QT frontend eventually, they will have to figure it out at some point if we don't21:28
acheronukor so I guess anyway21:29
acheronuktsimonq2: anything is appreciated :)21:29
tsimonq2alright :)21:29
tsimonq2\o/ yay21:29
tsimonq2my fix is in! \o/21:29
* clivejo high 5's tsimonq221:30
tsimonq2and kcron too!21:31
* yofel synced the repo for libkgeomap to LP21:31
tsimonq2yofel: so I don't know if this is still supposed to show 5.2.0... https://launchpadlibrarian.net/274505232/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.kdepim-addons_16.04.3+p16.10+git20160722.1625-0_BUILDING.txt.gz21:32
* tsimonq2 tries to fix21:32
yofeltsimonq2: don't mind that21:33
clivejothats a sync from debian21:33
yofelok then21:33
tsimonq2yofel: so I *shouldn't* try to fix it?21:33
yofelI thought that was thanks to the bug in our build-dep bumper21:33
yofeltsimonq2: the *version* isn't the issue here21:34
yofelso not worth fixing21:34
clivejoI think its a new package21:34
yofelit's a new package missing from the CI21:34
yofelhm... according to this script that i'm running a lot of stuff is missing from the CI21:34
yofelalthough that's mostly intentional21:34
clivejoPIM had major changes recently21:35
yofelthe script is now modifying jenkins21:35
yofellets see what happens...21:36
yofelacheronuk, tsimonq2: Btw. if you want to commit something *without* the CI triggering a build, put NOCI into the commit message21:38
acheronukyofel: handy to know21:38
yofelhm, now that added less CI jobs than I hoped21:40
yofelwell, at least breeze-gtk and discover have CI jobs now21:40
* yofel wonders what an easy way is to figure out what jobs we need right now and are missing21:41
tsimonq2alright yofel 21:42
tsimonq2yeah nice to know21:42
tsimonq2yofel: like anywhere or at the beginning?21:42
yofelbeginning I think21:43
yofelthe pattern is (?s).*NOCI.*21:43
yofelwell, anywhere actually21:44
yofelso, all the stuff with an error below it is missing a CI job: http://sprunge.us/jEDf21:45
yofelI'll fix the obvious missing PIM parts21:47
clivejoI want to learn how to do this21:48
blazesometimes lp does not trigger dependency-wait builds :\21:48
yofelso, in short: you clone pangea tooling, install the ruby libs locally with bundler, update the kci.yaml in the ci-tooling, then bundler exec ./update-projects.rb21:48
clivejoit hasnt been doing that at all recently21:49
tsimonq2klettres PR incoming21:49
yofelit should, but might take like 2 or 3 hours21:49
yofelclivejo: additionally to that, you need an actual user under your name that's a member of the admin role in jenkins, so you can use your auth token for jenkins in the scripts21:50
jimarvano/ :)21:50
yofelclivejo: regarding fixing what's missing. All that's needed is to manually create the _unstable and _stable branches in the repositories and re-run the script21:51
yofelthat's what I'm doing now21:51
clivejohave you a script for that?21:52
yofelI don't want to add everything, so I'm just doing the couple by hand21:53
* acheronuk only gets about 50% of that, but is watching for info21:53
yofelclivejo: ok, so I made this after all: alias branchcreate='git checkout kubuntu_yakkety_archive; git checkout -b kubuntu_unstable; git push origin kubuntu_unstable; git checkout -b kubuntu_stable; git push origin kubuntu_stable'21:55
* tsimonq2 throws a wild https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kubuntu-klettres/+merge/300957 at acheronuk 21:55
tsimonq2that needs a rebuild, Launchpad error ^22:03
tsimonq2same, Launchpad error ^22:04
tsimonq2clivejo: ^22:04
tsimonq2thank you yofel 22:05
tsimonq2yofel: xenial_unstable_akonadi-calendar has been hit by Launchpad failures as well22:06
ahoneybunmhall119: any word about sponsorship for Akademy/QtCon?22:07
tsimonq2yofel: that one is an epic fail ^22:11
yofelyeah... I obviously missed something22:11
yofelbut why did others build...22:12
yofelI'll just retry it, the yakkety job is running fine22:13
tsimonq2if I want to fix an application that doesn't have an existing changelog, do I create one?22:13
tsimonq2I mean entry that I can add in22:13
yofelhm... which one?22:14
tsimonq2yofel: it's a Debian import so it needs an ubuntu122:14
yofeltsimonq2: it does have an ubuntu1 in git22:15
yofelare you on master by chance?22:15
* tsimonq2 forgot to switch branches :(22:15
tsimonq2kalgebra PR incoming22:19
yofeloh, discover actually compiled, I'm impressed22:20
acheronuktsimonq2: I admire the enthusiasm you have :)22:20
yofelnow what's wrong with akonadimime22:20
tsimonq2acheronuk: :)22:20
yofeloh right, that's pimlibs, brrr22:20
clivejoits part of akonadi!22:20
clivejoits expected22:20
yofellol, that looks like it never ever built in the CI22:21
yofel    Qt5WebEngineConfig.cmake22:21
yofelok, ignore that22:21
tsimonq2acheronuk: \o/22:21
acheronukyep, I wonder when we'll get QtWebEngine :(22:22
yofelthe replacement for qtwebkit, essentially chromium with a Qt5 api around it22:26
tsimonq2kiriki PR incoming22:26
jimarvansounds sweet :D22:26
yofelyeah, but not something anyone wants to actually maintain22:27
jimarvanI see...22:27
acheronukjimarvan: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt/qtwebengine.git/22:27
blazeAuthor Scarlett Clark, lol22:29
jimarvanvery interesting indeed22:30
blazeit's better to waste your time somewhere else22:30
clivejogit fetch simon --by-the-toes22:31
tsimonq2khangman PR incoming22:32
tsimonq2clivejo: why? lol22:32
tsimonq2clivejo: you getting annoyed by all the emails of my many MPs? :D22:32
jimarvangn guys22:33
tsimonq2clivejo: then why? lol22:33
jimarvansee ya tomorrow22:33
tsimonq2o/ jimarvan 22:33
jimarvanif i survive my shoulder pain22:33
clivejoI call your remote simon22:33
clivejoso have to git fetch simon22:33
acheronukclivejo: huh?22:34
clivejoRik much have beaten me to the last one !22:34
acheronukummm https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kubuntu-khangman/+merge/30096222:35
mhall119ahoneybun: I have a task to review our current fund level, since many of you applied22:35
tsimonq2oh noes acheronuk 22:35
tsimonq2nice catch22:35
tsimonq2hold on22:35
acheronukclivejo: you can have them in a bit. I'm sleepy now22:36
clivejome too22:36
tsimonq2D: I'm only getting started XD22:37
clivejopace yourself!22:37
acheronukI was going to carry on with plasma in kci today, but it never happened. tomorow maybe22:37
acheronukclivejo tsimonq2: enthusiasm of youth!22:38
clivejoalso helps to be in another timezone!22:38
tsimonq2acheronuk: I'm hoping to reduce Rick's price :P22:39
tsimonq2to 022:39
yofelmhall119: any idea until when you'll have an update on that?22:39
acheronukI'm wondering what date I can say my 6 months probation will be up22:40
acheronukassuming I get that far!22:40
yofelwell, don't burn yourself out along the way ;)22:40
ahoneybunyou will acheronuk22:40
yofelother than that, you're like...halfway... I think?22:40
clivejothere are good days and there are bad days22:41
acheronukI've been on and off here since January I think?22:41
acheronukbut sustained and significant is another measure22:41
yofelah, I judged by 'visible contributions'22:41
yofelbut I didn't take that close a look to the logs22:42
ahoneybunthe council can judge on how significant they are22:42
yofelso feel free to convince me otherwise22:42
ahoneybunand I think they work is great22:42
ahoneybun*your work22:42
acheronukyofel: I'll work it out sometime. I'm not in a desperate hurry22:42
yofelhm, I really need to figure out how to set up an external builder for jenkins22:42
yofelbummer that I can't get docker to work on linode lxd22:43
yofelprobably because they use a custom kernel22:43
* acheronuk can feel the youths catching up, that is all22:43
ahoneybunI'm tempted to try Unity on this laptop again22:43
yofelmaybe running a VM would work22:43
yofellike, running docker in a VM in lxd on a cloud node. hurray for abstraction22:44
clivejodid you do a merge on hangman?22:44
acheronukclivejo: no, I left it, as was fubar22:45
clivejolooks like its been merged with debian22:45
mhall119yofel: I'll try and have it ready by our wednesday call when we review the requests22:46
yofelmhall119: ok, thanks!22:46
ahoneybunthanks mhall11922:46
ahoneybunso for sure I can't go22:46
acheronukclivejo: I did nothing with that MP22:47
clivejoI just wonder why that happened22:47
acheronukforgot to change branch?22:48
clivejoah yes22:48
acheronukI've done that once but caught it before it went anywhere22:49
acheronukdo I set up a personal wiki page on kubuntu or ubuntu wiki?22:51
tsimonq2acheronuk: fixed https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kubuntu-khangman/+merge/30096522:51
ahoneybuneither, they are the same22:51
ahoneybunacheronuk: ^22:51
acheronukahoneybun: oh, they share the db then? they look different, but that makes sense22:52
ahoneybunyea it's just a theme over it22:53
acheronukahoneybun: gotcha22:53
acheronukahoneybun: if I'm going to try to start writing down what I've done, it may as well be there at least in part22:54
tsimonq2kiten PR incoming22:54
ahoneybunyea and I'll add a testminal22:54
acheronukahoneybun: thx :)22:57
ahoneybunnp of course22:57
tsimonq2kdenlive! \o/23:00
tsimonq2acheronuk: how do I know where files have moved?23:02
tsimonq2if they are gone, how do I find out where they went?23:02
acheronukif they are gone, they may not be built any more. the install section shows all that was built23:03
acheronukor/and you can look on KDE source git for a package/project to see if there are any changes on there that account for files no longer being built23:04
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0gJEfxBN/file_283.jpg23:07
acheronuktsimonq2: file naming may just have changed also etc etc23:08
clivejoacheronuk: are you merging kiten?23:09
acheronukcan be a be obvious. can be a bit of detective work23:09
acheronukclivejo: for some reason I got no email on that one?23:09
clivejook Ill do it23:10
tsimonq2clivejo: https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kubuntu-kiten/+merge/30096623:11
clivejoyeah got an email about it 23:12
acheronukhmmm. it shows in gmail website, but not in email client. must have fallen foul of some filter23:14
tsimonq2\o/ merged23:14
acheronukok people. I'm calling it a night. :)23:16
tsimonq2o/ acheronuk 23:16
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> @marcinsagol Life is Strange works well so far23:28
valorietsimonq2: you're on fire!23:29
valorielovely to see you join the team23:29
tsimonq2valorie: how are you? :)23:30
valoriemissing my husband -- he's been on a week-long work trip, and returns tomorrow23:31
tsimonq2valorie: do you have access to rebuild yakkety_unstable_kcalc please?23:31
tsimonq2oh okay :)23:31
valorieare you having a good summer?23:31
tsimonq2yeah! :D23:31
valoriesorry, I'm not a packager and don't want to muck stuff up23:31
tsimonq2alright :)23:31
valorieahoneybun: do you have that access?23:31
yofelkcalc building23:31
tsimonq2thank you yofel 23:32
valorieah, yofel still up23:32
valoriebit late there isn't it?23:32
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Access for ?23:32
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> @Valoriez23:32
valorieyofel did it23:32
tsimonq2yofel: this is the same critical error that was in another package, did you find a solution? http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_breeze-plymouth/lastFailedBuild/consoleFull23:33
tsimonq2yakkety_unstable_kpackage - ran out of memory23:33
tsimonq2yakkety_unstable_kpty - also ran out of memory23:34
yofelhm, no, I just retried that23:34
tsimonq2yakkety_unstable_ktp-contact-runner - needs a rerun, Launchpad error23:34
valoriegosh, somebody kick LP some new memory!23:34
yofelthat's not LP, that's the CI23:34
tsimonq2yakkety_unstable_milou - also needs a rebuild because of Launchpad23:35
valorieoh right23:37
tsimonq2weird, yakkety_unstable_plasma-desktop is still failing although the appstream data move correction has already been done23:38
tsimonq2yofel: maybe needs a rebuild? do you know what's going on? ^23:39
tsimonq2dh_install: Cannot find (any matches for) "usr/share/appdata/org.kde.plasmashell.metainfo.xml" (tried in "." and "debian/tmp")23:39
tsimonq2dh_install: plasma-desktop-data missing files: usr/share/appdata/org.kde.plasmashell.metainfo.xml23:39
tsimonq2dh_install: missing files, aborting23:39
valorie!info plasma-discover-updater23:39
ubottuplasma-discover-updater (source: plasma-discover): Update manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.6.4-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 39 kB, installed size 160 kB23:40
yofeldid someone merge that? because that never built23:40
tsimonq2yakkety_unstable_systemsettings - needs a rebuild to make sure that there aren't any critical issues, last two builds were inconclusive23:40
tsimonq2xenial_unstable_khangman, yofel?23:40
ahoneybunfixes all around23:40
tsimonq2kalgebra, kiriki, khangman, \o/23:41
leumasmore \o/!!23:42
valorieplasma-desktop is rather important!23:42
yofeloh. plasma-desktop is depwait23:43
yofeluh, but the log says otherwise23:43
yofelI'll rebuild it23:43
yofelplasma-discover deleted23:45
tsimonq2picmi PR incoming23:46
tsimonq2yakkety_unstable_ffmpegthumbs - exited with not enough memory23:47
tsimonq2same with yakkety_unstable_attica23:49
tsimonq2yakkety_unstable_bomber - Launchpad error, needs rebuilding23:50
tsimonq2yakkety_unstable_granatier - too little memory23:51
yofelmeh, where are the memory errors coming from. It's not like the server runs OOM23:57
tsimonq2gwenview PR incoming23:57
valoriewonderful to see all this work happening23:58
* valorie goes off to eat dinner23:58

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