mamarley | So it looks like the latest build of kde-spectacle from staging-kdeapplications depends on all of Telepathy (transitively through libkf5purpose). | 01:18 |
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ahoneybun | well that's new | 02:14 |
ahoneybun | the panel is up top but off the screen | 02:14 |
ahoneybun | anyone notice the new system tray option in making a new panel? | 02:17 |
tsimonq2 | Fixing the merges | 04:24 |
valorie | that's lovely tsimonq2 | 04:25 |
tsimonq2 | valorie: :) | 04:26 |
tsimonq2 | valorie: I have a magical Git setup that likes to fix about half the merges that fail in KCI automatically XD | 04:27 |
tsimonq2 | s/automatically/on it's own/ | 04:27 |
tsimonq2 | hehe I literally had to do nothing for that one ^ | 04:40 |
tsimonq2 | that was me | 04:54 |
valorie | awesome | 04:54 |
tsimonq2 | (talking about the ABORTED) | 04:55 |
tsimonq2 | but the rest of the recent green was mine :) | 04:55 |
tsimonq2 | me as well | 04:55 |
valorie | \o/ | 04:58 |
tsimonq2 | I did it \o/ | 04:58 |
tsimonq2 | all merges are fixed! | 04:58 |
valorie | that is wonderful | 04:58 |
tsimonq2 | I'm just a >< little nervous about marble, so I aborted those because they've had a history of green, they were started by the nightly, there weren't any recent code changes, and I only wanted to wait on the direct upstreams of marble | 05:00 |
tsimonq2 | I'm maybe a little impatient but what I did wasn't bad ;) | 05:00 |
valorie | marble is one of those monsters | 05:01 |
tsimonq2 | it is, which is why I got a little nervous when my merge merged *45* commits | 05:01 |
tsimonq2 | I double checked everything... | 05:01 |
valorie | as I recall, they package a bunch of their own libs | 05:02 |
tsimonq2 | idk tbh | 05:02 |
valorie | there has been talk of moving them to frameworks, but not so far | 05:03 |
tsimonq2 | I'm gonna see if I can fix kanagram in apps staging | 05:16 |
tsimonq2 | I'll get it working in my PPA then once I'm absolutely 100% sure it works, I'll copy it over to staging-kdeapplications | 05:17 |
tsimonq2 | couldn't figure that out, gonna find something to fix | 05:36 |
valorie | fix PIM! | 05:36 |
tsimonq2 | I take requests... :P | 05:36 |
tsimonq2 | working on kdepim now | 05:37 |
valorie | oh nice! | 05:37 |
tsimonq2 | kdepim is building in staging-kdeapplications now | 06:37 |
* valorie crosses fingers | 06:41 | |
valorie | the neon team was saying it took like 20 hours to build | 06:41 |
tsimonq2 | s/hours/minutes/ | 06:41 |
tsimonq2 | that's more accurate | 06:42 |
tsimonq2 | I built it in another PPA first and then copied it over | 06:42 |
* tsimonq2 takes the time and updates https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tsimonq2 | 06:42 | |
acheronuk | tsimonq2: you aware that most of the errors, lintian etc, only show with the amd64 builds on that QA page? | 06:42 |
tsimonq2 | oh HAI acheronuk :D | 06:42 |
tsimonq2 | I'm aware | 06:43 |
acheronuk | HAI? | 06:43 |
tsimonq2 | I've been looking at both | 06:43 |
tsimonq2 | acheronuk: HAI = HI | 06:43 |
acheronuk | just double checking. it's easy to click the i386 and miss a lot | 06:43 |
* tsimonq2 nods | 06:44 | |
acheronuk | oh, and Hi :) | 06:44 |
tsimonq2 | Sunday morning for you? | 06:45 |
tsimonq2 | I should sleep but I'm not :P | 06:45 |
acheronuk | 07:45 am (urgghhh) | 06:45 |
tsimonq2 | I'm 6 hours behind you | 06:45 |
* acheronuk slurps more coffee | 06:45 | |
tsimonq2 | wow if I continue to keep track of *everything* and put it *all* on my wiki page, it's going to get HUGE | 06:46 |
tsimonq2 | XD | 06:46 |
acheronuk | I keep wondering how verbose to be on mine | 06:47 |
tsimonq2 | I link to everything | 06:48 |
tsimonq2 | if I ever need to refer to anything, there's my reference sheet XD | 06:48 |
valorie | you don't need to put what is already on your LP | 06:48 |
tsimonq2 | but it's not *just* on LP, there's also my UWN contributions etc. | 06:49 |
acheronuk | well depends, mine will be a quick ref for an eventual application (perhaps) so probably need more detail | 06:49 |
tsimonq2 | well that's what I mean | 06:50 |
tsimonq2 | I keep mine *so* up-to-date I can apply for anything I'm eligible for and it's a nice overview of my work | 06:51 |
valorie | it's good to remember, for sure | 06:51 |
valorie | I keep forgetting | 06:51 |
acheronuk | valorie: whole PIM stack may take 2hrs on their build machine | 06:52 |
acheronuk | *20hrs | 06:52 |
valorie | sooner started, sooner done | 06:53 |
acheronuk | the single kdepim package itself, without the preceding parts, take about 30mins on LP though I think? | 06:53 |
valorie | I'm happy we can have PIM this time out | 06:53 |
valorie | and have Trojita as an alternative now | 06:53 |
acheronuk | apps and PIM 16.08 is out now! don't think they are going in YY.. | 06:55 |
acheronuk | without a FFE anyway | 06:55 |
valorie | really? | 07:00 |
valorie | then we should get the FFEs going, shouldn't we? | 07:00 |
tsimonq2 | FF isn't in effect yet | 07:01 |
tsimonq2 | it's on the 18th | 07:01 |
acheronuk | I know, but it's also v close in terms of getting 16.08 done | 07:16 |
tsimonq2 | hey acheronuk, I had a typo in an MP that you approved when I was still a Yellow Belt, it was an obvious and glaring one too :P | 07:23 |
acheronuk | was probably getting mailbombed with MPs at the time :P | 07:24 |
tsimonq2 | oh, who would do such a thing? :P XD | 07:24 |
acheronuk | yofel: clivejo for thing like in kdepim W: kalarm: executable-not-elf-or-script etc/xdg/autostart/kalarm.autostart.desktop | 07:40 |
acheronuk | does that just needs it's path correctly in KA lintian-ignore.json so the QA page doesn't orange on it, or still needs a real override, or both, or neither? | 07:41 |
acheronuk | *need it's path correcting | 07:42 |
tsimonq2 | yofel, clivejo, acheronuk: loop me in on this too? I'm curious as well :) | 07:48 |
tsimonq2 | I need sleep o/ | 08:11 |
valorie | sleep! | 08:12 |
acheronuk | tsimonq2: you uploaded a changed build of kdepim, but I see no corresponding change in kubuntu_yakkety_archive git? | 08:24 |
acheronuk | yofel: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim-addons/16.04.3-1 | 08:31 |
acheronuk | so should our version be a -1ubuntu or a -0ubuntu in light of that? | 08:32 |
acheronuk | ditto with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkf5grantleetheme/16.04.3-1 | 08:36 |
acheronuk | after synced with debian I mean | 08:38 |
santa_ | good morning everyone | 08:50 |
acheronuk | morning santa :) | 09:07 |
mamarley | So it looks like the latest build of kde-spectacle from staging-kdeapplications depends on all of Telepathy (transitively through libkf5purpose). | 09:09 |
santa_ | and that's a bad thing? | 09:10 |
santa_ | (sorry, no clue about spectacle) | 09:10 |
mamarley | Yeah, I don't particularly want to have to install all of Telepathy (which I don't use). | 09:11 |
acheronuk | mamarley: libkf5purpose-dev was an optional build dep on that, so quite possibly ok to leave out again | 09:22 |
mamarley | acheronuk: That would be my preference, if it matters. :) | 09:22 |
acheronuk | mamarley: If I can evict telepathy from my system, and keep spectacle at the same time, that would be my pref as well. Now that I see the consequence of that. | 09:25 |
mamarley | acheronuk: Thanks! I'm not trying to complain or be a pest, and I really do appreciate all the work that you guys do. :) | 09:27 |
acheronuk | mamarley: not at all. hugely better for that to be pointed out now :D | 09:38 |
mamarley | :) | 09:38 |
acheronuk | clivejo: NoWorries o_O | 10:50 |
santa_ | acheronuk: reagrding the desktop files not executable I would put an override. but I can't say that adding the thing to the .json ignore is wrong | 11:02 |
santa_ | tsimonq2: ↑ | 11:03 |
santa_ | acheronuk: btw the lintian warnings about symbols files injecting dependencies on -bin packages were already overriden by yofel. as I said, that was the correct solution for that | 11:05 |
santa_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g8RqFnHz4Q | 11:05 |
soee | i have 2 more drafts for B&B widget | 11:15 |
soee | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/08/14/layout-all.png | 11:24 |
soee | what do you think ? | 11:24 |
santa_ | soee: my favourite one is the 3rd because it seems the most complete and nice looking one. but it's just my opinion | 11:33 |
soee | santa_: yes but all 3 are one widget | 11:36 |
soee | thy show content of each tab | 11:36 |
santa_ | ah, I see, nevermind | 11:38 |
santa_ | soee: looks good to me, in what version of plasma do you expect to provide it? | 11:39 |
soee | not me, kai wants to change it in 5.8 i think | 11:40 |
soee | together with Media widget | 11:40 |
santa_ | aha | 11:40 |
soee | 5.8 LTS should be cool release :) | 11:41 |
* ahoneybun wakes up to bug comment about a different product on kdenlive... | 11:52 | |
ahoneybun | clivejo: think I should not release that blog post about yakkety? | 12:01 |
BluesKaj | Hi folks | 12:27 |
ahoneybun | heyo | 12:32 |
ahoneybun | going to beat soee to it: https://www.kde.org/announcements/kde-frameworks-5.25.0.php | 14:19 |
ahoneybun | lol | 14:19 |
soee | hihi :D | 14:20 |
soee | i'm doing some design changes atm. so im using http://i.imgur.com/Lkuy0Ql.png | 14:21 |
soee | working on a ultra wide screen is so cool: http://i.imgur.com/isaqwCy.png :) | 14:23 |
ahoneybun | they built it already? | 14:25 |
soee | build what> | 14:25 |
ahoneybun | FW 5.25 | 14:25 |
soee | today was some bigger update but this is dev-unstable | 14:26 |
soee | version, so a lot of updates all the time | 14:26 |
ahoneybun | mm | 14:26 |
ahoneybun | stupid packagekit | 14:26 |
soee | :) | 14:27 |
ahoneybun | I have broken packages | 14:27 |
soee | :o | 14:27 |
soee | on what > YY ? | 14:27 |
ahoneybun | yea | 14:27 |
ahoneybun | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23055695/ | 14:27 |
soee | uhm some version problems | 14:30 |
ahoneybun | mm | 14:34 |
* ahoneybun installs libastro1 | 14:34 | |
ahoneybun | that did not work | 14:35 |
soee | i am nood when it comes to all this dependencies :) | 14:36 |
soee | you need to ask some ninja | 14:36 |
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soee | someone up ? | 15:33 |
soee | need some opinion :D | 15:33 |
blaze | bout what? | 15:33 |
soee | final battery widget redesing | 15:37 |
soee | one moment | 15:37 |
soee | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/08/14/layout-all_4.png | 15:40 |
soee | from a home user point of view, anyone would add something here ? | 15:41 |
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ahoneybun | what gens the Power messages? | 15:45 |
soee | i'm not sure, system somehow generates them | 15:47 |
soee | here is just dummy text except the first one | 15:47 |
ahoneybun | darn can't install any software with my system like this | 15:48 |
ahoneybun | clivejo: can I remove packagekit? | 15:49 |
ahoneybun | valorie: heyo | 16:16 |
blaze | soee: looks good | 16:25 |
blaze | I'd rather improve task manager | 16:25 |
blaze | it's extremely inconvinient for me | 16:26 |
soee | what is wrong with it ? | 16:30 |
ahoneybun | !info packaging-dev | 16:49 |
ubottu | packaging-dev (source: packaging-dev): convenient tools to develop packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8 (yakkety), package size 2 kB, installed size 26 kB | 16:49 |
ahoneybun | tsimonq2: added some stuff https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/blob/master/README.md | 17:01 |
ahoneybun | http://www.aelog.org/kio-gdrive-is-still-alive | 17:35 |
tsimonq2 | acheronuk: I *knew* I was missing something... | 17:46 |
acheronuk | tsimonq2: what? | 17:56 |
tsimonq2 | acheronuk: re: kdepim and yakkety_archive | 17:57 |
acheronuk | oh right | 17:57 |
acheronuk | I figured that was just an accidental omission | 17:59 |
soee | what is the package name for system language ? | 18:05 |
soee | http://i.imgur.com/gk5z5WA.png | 18:06 |
soee | !info update-apt-xapian-index xenial | 19:02 |
ubottu | Package update-apt-xapian-index does not exist in xenial | 19:02 |
clivejo | ahoneybun: install the packagekit from proposed | 19:13 |
clivejo | that should work | 19:13 |
clivejo | done nothing but sit around and eat, I’m knackered!! | 19:16 |
tsimonq2 | let's say there's a native Debian package with version 4 | 19:19 |
tsimonq2 | I want to make an Ubuntu revision | 19:19 |
tsimonq2 | would the correct action be to make the version 4ubuntu1 or 4-1ubuntu1 ? | 19:19 |
clivejo | simon_1.0.0-4 ? | 19:19 |
tsimonq2 | !info lxqt-core | 19:20 |
ubottu | lxqt-core (source: lxqt-metapackages): Metapackage for the LXQt core. In component universe, is optional. Version 4 (yakkety), package size 2 kB, installed size 9 kB | 19:20 |
tsimonq2 | that ^ | 19:20 |
clivejo | simon_1.0.0-4ubuntu1 | 19:20 |
tsimonq2 | not lxqt-core-4ubuntu1 ? | 19:20 |
tsimonq2 | clivejo: I don't know what you're sayinh | 19:21 |
tsimonq2 | *saying | 19:21 |
clivejo | this - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-metapackages/4 ? | 19:21 |
clivejo | thats weird | 19:22 |
clivejo | lxqt-metapackages (4) unstable; urgency=medium | 19:22 |
tsimonq2 | yeah | 19:24 |
tsimonq2 | it is weird | 19:24 |
clivejo | santa_: do you know? | 19:24 |
tsimonq2 | I don't like Launchpad, it's so slow... | 19:26 |
tsimonq2 | that, and why wouldn't the build logs dynamically update like Jenkins? | 19:26 |
tsimonq2 | stupid... | 19:26 |
santa_ | tsimonq2: I would say it would be 4ubuntu1 | 19:28 |
tsimonq2 | great, then I win XD | 19:28 |
santa_ | but be careful with my advices about ubuntesque stuff | 19:28 |
tsimonq2 | alright :P | 19:28 |
tsimonq2 | clivejo: I think we have to ask the question... WWYD? | 19:29 |
clivejo | I have no idea! | 19:29 |
clivejo | hes AFK | 19:29 |
tsimonq2 | yofel: WWYD? ^ | 19:29 |
santa_ | I mean I'm familiar with the packaging tech, but not so much about the ubuntesque bureaucracy, workflows, etc | 19:30 |
santa_ | what's WWYD? | 19:30 |
tsimonq2 | santa_: What Would Yofel Do? | 19:30 |
santa_ | ah | 19:30 |
clivejo | that seems to be named that way in Debian | 19:31 |
tsimonq2 | yeah wth? | 19:31 |
clivejo | I thought debian had strict standards! | 19:32 |
tsimonq2 | I guess maybe they get away with it because it's a native package | 19:32 |
tsimonq2 | santa_: thoughts? ^ | 19:32 |
ahoneybun | clivejo: that remove the apt fix | 19:33 |
clivejo | huh? | 19:33 |
ahoneybun | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23056393/ | 19:34 |
clivejo | is that the proposed packagekit? | 19:34 |
santa_ | tsimonq2: sorry, I'm a bit confused, which package are you working on? | 19:35 |
ahoneybun | idk I just have staging | 19:35 |
tsimonq2 | !info lxqt-core | 19:35 |
ubottu | lxqt-core (source: lxqt-metapackages): Metapackage for the LXQt core. In component universe, is optional. Version 4 (yakkety), package size 2 kB, installed size 9 kB | 19:35 |
tsimonq2 | santa_: ^ | 19:35 |
clivejo | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-metapackages/4 | 19:35 |
clivejo | ahoneybun: there is a ton of stuff stuck in proposed | 19:35 |
clivejo | and our stuff in PPA's is built using it | 19:36 |
ahoneybun | mm | 19:37 |
santa_ | tsimonq2: and what's the problem if you use the version 4ubuntu1? | 19:37 |
clivejo | I wouldnt enabled it directly cause if could kill kittens | 19:38 |
clivejo | santa_: we just trying to figure out the correct version for ubuntu | 19:38 |
tsimonq2 | ^ | 19:38 |
clivejo | but Ive never seen a package with just an integer version ! | 19:38 |
santa_ | I would say "4ubuntu1" if you plan to fix something in the package and upload it to ubuntu | 19:39 |
tsimonq2 | me neither | 19:39 |
tsimonq2 | ok cool santa_ | 19:39 |
santa_ | well, it's a native package | 19:39 |
clivejo | if I was a betting man Id go with santa | 19:39 |
santa_ | samke as "our" meta-kde but without the epoch | 19:39 |
santa_ | I'm betting here too | 19:40 |
santa_ | I wish I can get some time to read about this kind of stuff | 19:40 |
tsimonq2 | hmm | 19:43 |
tsimonq2 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-next/+bug/1387237 | 19:43 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1387237 in Lubuntu next "lxqt doesn't read the correct settings for multiple XDG_CONFIG_DIRS" [High,Triaged] | 19:43 |
tsimonq2 | so there's two ways to solve this | 19:44 |
tsimonq2 | work around it by implementing all the code that is in lxqt-common in lubuntu-qt-default-settings (which idk if that's against Debian policy or not) or fix the actual bug at hand | 19:45 |
tsimonq2 | anyone have any ideas? | 19:45 |
tsimonq2 | I wonder if it would be possible to split lxqt-common into two packages. that way, lxqt-core can still pick up on lxqt-common, and lubuntu-qt-default-settings can conflict on the other package | 19:48 |
tsimonq2 | I think that's entirely possible, right? | 19:49 |
tsimonq2 | let's see how that works | 19:53 |
yofel | tsimonq2, clivejo, santa_: 4ubuntu1 would be my best bet. native packages are always a bit annoying in that regard | 21:46 |
tsimonq2 | yofel: what about the solution I presented above? | 21:47 |
tsimonq2 | have an opinion? | 21:47 |
yofel | forking code would not go against the policy, though patching the original one sounds easier. And yes, what you said is certainly possible, but I don't know enough about the package contents to give proper advice about that | 21:53 |
* yofel tried to install lubuntu-qt-desktop earlier and is not quite sure why apt insists on installing sddm-theme-breeze | 21:53 | |
tsimonq2 | because sddm depends on it | 21:54 |
tsimonq2 | or at least recommends it | 21:54 |
tsimonq2 | but we have our own sddm theme | 21:54 |
santa_ | yofel: btw are yu aware that they are at least a couple of syncs from debian in proposed? https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/08/14/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t08:24 | 21:57 |
yofel | yes, and providing an alternative for sddm-theme *should* make apt be happy, but it's not :/ | 21:58 |
yofel | santa_: yes I am, needs working out when we upload apps | 21:58 |
santa_ | yofel: ok, but do you have a plan or you wll figure it out later? | 22:04 |
yofel | santa_: you can see on the PPA details page on launchpad which packages have a higher version in the archive already. So for all apps packages where that's the case someone has to do a merge | 22:24 |
tsimonq2 | yofel: well to make this more clear, lxqt-common stores some files in /etc/xdg and so does lubuntu-qt-default-settings (not uploaded yet, so currently, lubuntu-default-settings). The bug makes it so the default LXQt files are used for certain things before lubuntu-qt-default-settings. I wanted to split out the /etc/xdg files from lxqt-common and make that package a conflict of lubuntu-qt-default-se | 22:24 |
tsimonq2 | ttings, so lubuntu-qt-default-settings' settings are the only one installed when using lubuntu-qt-desktop. It's a temporary workaround until the path bug is fixed | 22:24 |
tsimonq2 | make sense? | 22:24 |
yofel | makes sense as a workaround | 22:26 |
santa_ | yofel: you mean a git merge from master I guess | 22:27 |
yofel | santa_: that would be easiest | 22:37 |
yofel | hm, our konsole packaging is buggy. konsole-kpart should be enough to run yakuake, but there's kpart pieces in 'konsole' | 22:47 |
tsimonq2 | yofel: when you have a min, could you please help me debug muon installed via lubutnu-qt-desktop? | 22:48 |
tsimonq2 | s/lubutnu-qt-desktop/lubuntu-qt-desktop/ | 22:49 |
tsimonq2 | it seems like it's missing something... | 22:49 |
clivejo | the muon package manager? | 22:50 |
tsimonq2 | well we have muon and muon-discover | 22:51 |
tsimonq2 | clivejo: I'd get you the error, but I'm doing a reinstall of that VM | 22:53 |
yofel | just got it running on my netbook, so might as well | 22:54 |
tsimonq2 | lubuntu-qt-desktop? :O | 22:54 |
tsimonq2 | so try and launch it and you'll hopefully see my error :) | 22:54 |
yofel | using mini.iso and aptitude :P | 22:54 |
tsimonq2 | EEEEWWWWW aptitude... | 22:55 |
yofel | well, that allowed me to install lubuntu-qt-desktop without sddm-theme-breeze, as that explodes on plasma.desktop | 22:56 |
tsimonq2 | oh | 22:56 |
valorie | tsimonq2: why are you still calling it muon-discover? | 22:56 |
valorie | it is now plasma discover | 22:56 |
tsimonq2 | valorie: because that's the package name... | 22:56 |
tsimonq2 | bah | 22:56 |
valorie | that's ooooold | 22:56 |
tsimonq2 | yofel: can we take this to #lubuntu-devel ? | 22:56 |
clivejo | muon-discover is no more | 23:00 |
tsimonq2 | ok | 23:01 |
clivejo | the muon package manage is standalone now | 23:01 |
tsimonq2 | yeah we depend on muon and muon-discover, I'm poking Julien (dev lead) now | 23:02 |
clivejo | but surely you should be able the share the same packaging? | 23:02 |
clivejo | do you guys have a seed? | 23:02 |
* tsimonq2 throws http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.yakkety/view/head:/desktop-qt at clivejo | 23:03 | |
clivejo | that be why | 23:04 |
tsimonq2 | hm? | 23:04 |
tsimonq2 | clivejo: what needs to be corrected? | 23:04 |
clivejo | muon-discover needs to become plasma-discover to pull in the new version | 23:04 |
tsimonq2 | ok, I'll try that in my VM | 23:04 |
tsimonq2 | meanwhile, I've given Julien a poke | 23:05 |
clivejo | yeah try it out | 23:05 |
clivejo | its built into the plasma desktop so might want to pull in half of kubuntu! | 23:05 |
tsimonq2 | awwwwwwww | 23:05 |
tsimonq2 | come on... | 23:05 |
clivejo | try it | 23:06 |
tsimonq2 | clivejo: can we move this conversation to #lubuntu-devel ? | 23:07 |
clivejo | I dont know anything about lubuntu :/ | 23:07 |
tsimonq2 | well this is Lubuntu-related... :P | 23:07 |
clivejo | but I was involved in getting Muon into xenial | 23:07 |
yofel | clivejo: more like you're missing half the conversation | 23:10 |
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