tsimonq2I did that from w3m on Linode ^01:12
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> Waiting in my plane from NYC to Stockholm. See some of you soon!01:46
tsimonq2hey acheronuk 03:36
tsimonq2I'm learning more C++03:36
tsimonq2acheronuk: if you want to do this challenge I found online with me, feel free03:36
tsimonq2but instead of having it all in main(), separate it into a class (or two) and a couple public functions03:38
tsimonq2do all of that but put it in different files (header and cpp)03:39
tsimonq2(you said you needed to get better at C++ so I thought I would let you know what I'm doing to become more comfortable with it)03:40
momoeGood evening everyone. I just wanted to point out that KDE Connect as just reached 1.0 version this week. So I hope we can get the update in the repositories for Kubuntu soon! https://albertvaka.wordpress.com/2016/08/26/kde-connect-1-0-is-here/06:00
tsimonq2yofel, clivejo:06:00
tsimonq2sorry Clive and Phil for the empty ping, look at his message ^06:01
tsimonq2yofel, clivejo, acheronuk: which level on our complex system of PPAs is that? still in unstable?06:01
tsimonq2sorry about that :)06:02
momoeit's listed as an Ubuntu release I guess? 06:02
tsimonq2!info kdeconnect06:02
ubottukdeconnect (source: kdeconnect): connect smartphones to your KDE Plasma Workspace. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-0ubuntu5 (yakkety), package size 50 kB, installed size 202 kB06:02
momoeI believe it was a custom devel back from 2015 to get working in Kubuntu. 06:02
momoeback when the features were still being developed06:03
momoeAleix Pol 06:03
momoeRevision 0.9 (2015-10-19)06:03
acheronuktsimonq2 momoe : clive was trying to get it built in a ppa yesterday https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/kdeconnect-kde/06:06
tsimonq2well there you go momoe, it's a work in progress ;)06:07
tsimonq2thanks acheronuk 06:08
acheronuknot sure about it going in the archive itself as we are now in FF06:08
momoeExciting news! Thanks guys06:10
momoeAhh shame, I've got broken package dependancies. I'll have to figure this out. But still glad clive got that update out. so TY06:19
acheronukmomoe: not out yet, but I guess that will go in the backport ppas at some point at least06:20
momoekk, I've only made the complete switch to linux from windows about 3 months ago so apologies for any dunce comments. 06:22
hateballacheronuk: is plasma 5.7 going to make it to 16.10?06:23
hateballwith associated Qt06:23
acheronukhateball: it is in there06:23
hateballacheronuk: hmm, but apps are not updated then? I grabbed a nightly yesterday that said 5.5 I think?06:24
tsimonq2hateball: correct06:24
hateballtsimonq2: Alright06:25
acheronukhateball: nightlies are not building due to a dependency problem, so you will have an old version there06:25
tsimonq2we still need apps 16.04.306:25
hateballacheronuk: ah, I didnt actually check that close, just grabbed most recent and put on a thumbdrive ;f06:25
tsimonq2acheronuk: could you get me up to speed on that?06:25
acheronuktsimonq2: was a few old kde4 things still depending on old kactivities it seemed. 06:27
tsimonq2acheronuk: so what needs to be fixed now then?06:28
acheronukThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:29
acheronuk kactivitymanagerd : Breaks: kactivities (< 5.20~) but 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed06:29
acheronuk plasma-desktop : Breaks: kactivities (< 5.21) but 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed06:29
acheronuk plasma-desktop-data : Breaks: kactivities (< 5.21) but 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed06:29
acheronukE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.06:29
tsimonq2acheronuk: where's the new kactivities?06:30
acheronukyofl removed okular from the cd as that was one thing built against, so wanting, the old kactivities libs06:31
acheronukbut must be something else if still failing06:31
tsimonq2well isn't that sort of thing just in debian/control?06:31
tsimonq2where is kactivities 5.21?06:32
acheronukthey split up and moved the components around a bit I think06:33
tsimonq2!info kactivities06:34
ubottuPackage kactivities does not exist in yakkety06:34
tsimonq2then wtf?!?06:34
tsimonq2ohhhh maybe there's a Provides somewhere06:35
acheronukits now libkf5activities in frameworks and kactivitymanagerd in plasma06:37
tsimonq2!info libkf5activities06:37
ubottuPackage libkf5activities does not exist in yakkety06:37
acheronukand should be breaks/replaces on the old parts06:37
tsimonq2!info kactivitymanagerd06:37
ubottukactivitymanagerd (source: kactivitymanagerd): System service to manage user's activities. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.7.2-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 154 kB, installed size 800 kB06:37
acheronuk!info libkf5activities506:37
ubottulibkf5activities5 (source: kactivities-kf5): Library to organize the user work in separate activities.. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.24.0-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 72 kB, installed size 288 kB06:37
tsimonq2ahhh I see06:38
tsimonq2so those three packages just need updates to fix that?06:38
tsimonq2or what?06:38
acheronukBUT, there is still stuff left over which wants the old libkactivities606:38
tsimonq2so ALL of those need updates?06:41
acheronukdon't think so as there's only a few direct rdepends06:44
acheronuk'reverse-depends libkactivities6'06:44
acheronuk* calligra-libs06:44
acheronuk* dolphin406:44
acheronuk* kde-runtime06:44
acheronuk* konqueror06:44
acheronuk* libkactivities-dbg06:44
acheronuk* libkactivities-dev06:44
acheronuk* libkateinterfaces406:44
acheronuk* okular06:44
acheronuk* rekonq06:44
tsimonq2which one of those needs an update?06:46
acheronuktsimonq2: well, the kactivities that was a recommends has has been deleted from the archive, so it *might* be ok now, if they try an iso build?07:13
tsimonq2acheronuk: so poke yofel, he has access to rebuild it :P07:14
acheronukor maybe it will still fail? not sure to be honest07:15
acheronukoddly the automatic daily builds have stopped. not sure if that was done on purpose, or if they stop if so many failures in a row?07:23
tsimonq2hmm idk07:26
acheronukaccording to this, last build was attempted on 24th https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/yakkety/kubuntu07:29
acheronuktsimonq2: do you know how to do a local test build of our iso?07:34
tsimonq2acheronuk: no clue whatsoever07:35
tsimonq2acheronuk: if you ask nicely, someone on the release team can do it07:35
tsimonq2acheronuk: or if you're impatient, I can ask Walter07:35
acheronukthere is this, but it looks antique! http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu/files07:36
tsimonq2acheronuk: well I'm off to bed07:42
acheronuknight 07:42
* yofel didn't realize that the images stopped trying to build >.>08:19
yofelthanks for getting that fixed08:19
acheronuklooks like it might have been successful as well :) https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/yakkety/kubuntu/+build/7403508:23
yofelyeah, the problem was that libkactivities6 was still recommending the non-existent kactivities08:24
yofelso now okular can go back as well08:24
yofelI'll fix that later08:24
yofel(removing libkactivities6 would require heart surgery on kde-runtime, so that'll have to stay :/ )08:25
acheronukseems that way. I managed to confuse myself with the various kactivities versions and names earlier, and made it more complicated than it was08:25
acheronuklol. yes. I tried to get apt to remove it, and the breakage was not pretty!08:25
yofelheh. Yeah, I had to look at this for a while too because you have this really misleading source/binary name mixture08:26
acheronukif we a least have a working image with new plasma that is a nice step forward :D08:27
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> where can I look to see the status of KDevelop 5 in Kubuntu?08:29
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> is it in QA?08:29
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> or KCI?08:31
acheronukovidiu-florin: I know clive was trying a build in the Kubuntu Staging Misc ppa the other day08:32
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I see nothing in KCI nor the qa build status08:32
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I was just about to ask for that link08:35
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> thank you08:35
acheronukcan't build it in CI at the moment, as kdevplatform is too old in the archive and needs adding to CI itself, along with kdevelop itself08:35
acheronukblaze has it in his ppa built fine, and neon now have it, so the heavy lifting is done by various people. just need them putting together I guess08:37
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> it seems from the build log that KDevelop-PG-Qt is missing08:39
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-misc/+build/1067413208:40
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> acheronuk how does one go about uploading a new version of kdevplatform?08:51
acheronukhmmm.. looking at blaze's ppa, I think there are more dependencies to get it working than I thought https://launchpad.net/~blaze/+archive/ubuntu/kf508:57
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: were you reaching me on FB about KDevelop?08:58
acheronukclivejo/yofel eek! https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2016-August/009687.html09:21
ahoneybunmm what?!09:21
ahoneybunthat's kinda silly acheronuk no?09:23
ahoneybunthey all need each other to build no?09:23
acheronuknot all. I always did think it odd they had bundled so many PIM apps into one repo09:25
acheronukbut that is going to be fun for packaging and for setting up on KCI09:25
* ahoneybun throws lxd down a river09:26
ahoneybunmm work on another music player for akademy?10:40
ahoneybun*for plasma during akademy10:41
clivejoacheronuk: yes I was trying to, but I couldnt find where scarlett pushed previous packaging to10:56
BluesKajHiyas all11:20
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soee_clivejo: the xenial tests you want, is it some stuff ready to be released, i mean if there are not packaging errors reported after tests ?12:16
clivejoI need to know what to look at12:23
clivejoif its stable enough to be released, it will need RM approval and then move into backports12:26
yofelclivejo: is it in landing?12:58
yofel(in any case, I won't look at it until I'm in Berlin)12:59
BluesKajHey yofel, clivejo what was the call for testers about yesterday? I was busy with other things so I couldn't respond.13:00
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> @Blueskaj I think they were just trying to get the call up to date. So many old nicks on it13:04
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> /me is sitting in the Stockholm airport in the Layover-That-Will-Not-End13:04
soee_BluesKaj: Xenial updates i thnk13:05
soee_Plasma 5.7 + Frameworks 5.2413:05
BluesKajvalorie, Bummer about the layover, but thanks for the info13:05
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> I wish I had a day or two to explore Sweden. Another time though13:08
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> I'm a quarter-Swedish and I know where my ggrandparents came from; would love to visit those farms13:08
BluesKajValoriez , cool , I'm a Swedish-Finn or Fnnish-Swede, whatever the correct term is ..Swedish was my first langauge, then Finnish, then English after we emmigrated to Canada. 13:13
BluesKajfrom Helsinki13:14
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> oh very cool13:14
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> I heard some Finnish in Estonia13:14
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> it's nice to hear Swedish all around me here13:15
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> it's been years13:15
* soee_ is testing Xenial updates13:18
BluesKajyeah. wife is of Finnish-English descent, and we plan to visit Scandinavia probly in a yr or so, Wife is interested in her roots as well.13:20
BluesKajsoee ppa?13:24
BluesKajsoee_ ^13:24
soee_BluesKaj: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma?field.series_filter=xenial13:25
soee_landing ?13:25
soee_ok seems fine13:26
soee_BluesKaj: backports landing it is13:27
acheronukpretty much what was in staging AFAIK13:27
BluesKaj so staging or landing?13:27
soee_always test the closest to backports :)13:28
BluesKajok thanks13:28
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Backports landing13:49
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Lp crapped out on me13:50
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> So might be missing  two package's13:50
acheronuk^^^^ needs kirigami and kdevplatform in KCI13:55
soee_yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23111922/14:04
soee_are there any replacement for thi slanguage packs and it is intended to remove them >14:04
soee_clivejo: plasma-discover-common kept back after adding backports-landing14:05
yofeloh, right, l10n is too old14:07
yofeluhm, well, I guess we could update those and accept some broken translations in some apps14:07
soee_clivejo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23111953/14:13
soee__so imo with this language packs marked to be removed and problem with plasma-discover-common14:23
soee__-1 from my side to any move it to backports14:24
acheronukclivejo: I thought we backported the language packs ages ago?14:44
clivejothey still in staging, kopying now14:44
acheronuknot sure about the discover thing. I won't let that POS on my machines, so I think I avoid that.14:45
acheronukI guess the rebuilt qtcurve is also needed.14:48
acheronukI will set up a clean VM to test on at some point in the next few days14:49
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Morning all14:49
yofelI'll setup the transition tracker for the qt rebuilds, probably on the train to berlin or so. Then we should be able to beat it into shape till sunday or so14:51
yofelor so14:51
yofelorson wells?14:51
* yofel is bored watching XML data importers...14:52
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Yofel, you talking about for 5.7? O__o14:52
yofeler no14:52
yofelplasma 5.7, not qt 5.714:52
tsimonq2I was gonna say, Qt 5.7 has some...issues14:53
BluesKajplasma 5.7 seems fine so far on both XX and YY14:53
soee__uh Fedora 25 uses Wayland by default :)15:13
BluesKajsoee__, any reviews ?15:21
tsimonq2later this evening I'd be awesome if I can get Qt 5.7 landed in KCI15:21
tsimonq2(no promises)15:22
soee__BluesKaj: nope, seen just some news header15:22
BluesKajsoee__,  found this, but it's on gnome http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=f25-alpha-wayland&num=115:26
tsimonq2acheronuk: I think we'll need to disable tests altogether for qtquickcontrols-opensource-src 15:31
tsimonq2(just for i386 if possible)15:32
acheronukKCI doesn't build i386, anyway15:32
acheronukso I guess it wouldn't matter anyway15:33
tsimonq2oh? O__o15:33
tsimonq2acheronuk: well then tonight I'll do a final rebuild of the selected packages on the list in the README.source in qtbase15:34
tsimonq2after that, we land! :D15:34
yofeltsimonq2: we had that enabled in the past, so most of the time you were debugging architecture specific build failures caused by arch mismatches. Not what the CI is meant for, so now it's amd64-only16:06
tsimonq2ahh I see yofel 16:07
tsimonq2ok :)16:07
acheronuktsimonq2: https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2016-August/009687.html16:13
acheronukas if PIM wasn't a pain in KCI already16:14
tsimonq2ok I'm biking home to my computer16:15
acheronukcatch you later then16:15
tsimonq2I really want Qt 5.7 to land BEFORE the nightly so I can see it BURN16:15
acheronukjust when I'd almost got the yakkety fix page down to one screen again!!!!16:16
* acheronuk sobs16:17
acheronukoh well. onwards. :D16:18
blazeqt5.7? o.O16:40
mhall119sitter: ping16:50
acheronukblaze: just in KCI17:00
tsimonq2alright, I've set the next few hours aside just to firefight17:12
tsimonq2and transition :)17:12
tsimonq2yofel, clivejo, acheronuk: who will be around for the next few hours while I attempt to land Qt 5.7 in KCI in case I have questions? :)17:16
* clivejo runs away17:16
* acheronuk whistles and plugs ears17:21
tsimonq2oh come on17:21
tsimonq2nobody wants to help? :P17:21
acheronukI'll watch17:22
* BluesKaj watches everyone disappear :-017:22
acheronukI'm sure it will go without a hitch17:23
* tsimonq2 goes to http://tsimonq2.net/kubuntusoundboard/ and clicks the "Kubuntu NINJA!" button17:24
tsimonq2not me17:31
acheronuklooks like the LP publisher taking longer than the 4hr timeout17:33
acheronukthat's what happens on sunday mornings when they do some sort of maintenance jobs on it17:34
tsimonq2argh Launchpad really needs a speed boost on it's publishers :/17:38
tsimonq2ARGH another global rebuild is coming... :/17:39
Mirvlast chance to say something regarding autopkgtest overrides on #ubuntu-devel. support would be nice too, I don't like talking for you "just ignore the failures"17:41
Mirvregarding these http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#qtbase-opensource-src17:41
Mirvwe'll need to go through the overrides again once the next uploads are in which have lots of backported fixes17:42
tsimonq2yofel, clivejo, acheronuk ^17:43
mhall119has anyone heard from sitter lately?17:45
tsimonq2mhall119: he's not really around here often17:46
clivejohes probably heading to Berlin17:46
* clivejo imgaines a suitcase full of bow ties17:46
acheronukhe was around on #kde-neon earlier17:48
acheronuk[15:51] <Riddell> bring a bow tie for me17:49
acheronukand something about looking for hot-tubs17:50
clivejodont they have a hottub at the party house?17:50
acheronuklittle would surprise me :P17:51
tsimonq2clivejo: do you guys stay at the same place as them or do you guys have your own place?17:53
clivejoanother place17:53
tsimonq2oh ok17:54
acheronukno kci explosions yet......18:01
tsimonq2I'm working on it acheronuk ;)18:02
Mirvthanks for the pings tsimonq218:05
tsimonq2no problem Mirv :018:06
clivejoplease dont kill KCI18:19
tsimonq2I won't kill it18:20
tsimonq2I'll torture it, slowfully, painfully, from the inside, until it crumbles18:20
acheronukYou just want more errors to fix18:22
mamarley"If it isn't broken, fix it until it is."18:23
tsimonq2yofel, clivejo, acheronuk: how do I override "dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address" ?18:58
tsimonq2clivejo: it seems you did something like that to get qtwebchannel uploaded because your upload has this:18:58
tsimonq2Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org>18:58
acheronuktsimonq2: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/07/22/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t08:3419:11
acheronukclivejo: with a kubuntu address would not get the error.19:11
tsimonq2ahh that's right19:14
tsimonq2yofel, clivejo: Hey you people with Kubuntu addresses. qtwebchannel was released to unstable. Update the KCI PPA please.19:15
tsimonq2acheronuk: what happens if symbols are removed but are still needed? will dpkg-buildpackage barf?19:17
acheronukif you remove some that shouldn't be removed, they would show up again in the buildlog I would imagine19:33
* tsimonq2 takes a chance19:34
tsimonq2acheronuk, yofel, clivejo: look at this: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/1066570119:38
acheronuktsimonq2: libboost 1.58 no longer exists in yakkety. is now 1.61 I think?19:44
tsimonq2acheronuk: correct, but the fix is going to be...fun19:51
ahoneybunclivejo: did you move kdeconnect 1.0 into the backports?20:08
soee__is there any answer for this: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+StephonThornton/posts/3pBMux7aiWG ?20:23
clivejoahoneybun: backports landing20:51
tsimonq2I'm working on akonadi21:24
tsimonq2don't touch :P21:24
acheronukpkgkde-symbolshelper batchpatch -v 4:16.04.3+git2016083021:41
acheronuktsimonq2: as need to know when symbols were confirmed new or safe to remove21:42
tsimonq2acheronuk: could you please look into qtxmlpatterns-opensource-src - 5.7.0-1~xenial2 ? I can't figure it out :/ https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ubuntu/qt-5.7/+packages21:42
tsimonq2acheronuk: how does that help? O.o21:42
IrcsomeBot<marcinsagol> yofel will you be able to look at this discover issue in backports landing?21:43
acheronuktsimonq2: if you just put 16.04.3 how would you know when symbols where confirmed via buildlog as being missing or new? especially on KCI, as 16.04.3 is not really the upstream version number. just for convenience the last stable one we did. whereas the current builds are more like kde apps 16.11.70 beta at the moment, in reality21:46
tsimonq2acheronuk: so then what needs to be done about this?21:47
acheronuksymbols confirmed with just 16.04.3 could be from actually 16.04.3, or 16.08, or 16.11.7 etc21:48
tsimonq2I see21:48
tsimonq2but how is this dealt with?21:48
acheronukreally needed that merge to be redone, and the symbols checked to see why they went missing.21:50
* tsimonq2 does a soft reset and force pushes so I can work with it locally but it's reverted21:52
acheronukput it this way, for there to be any point in having symbols at all, you need to do them by the book as much as you can, otherwise they are worthless. or worse.21:53
tsimonq2acheronuk: alright, let's try this again :)21:53
tsimonq2you said this earlier: 04:41:12 PM < acheronuk> pkgkde-symbolshelper batchpatch -v 4:16.04.3+git2016083021:53
tsimonq2is that what I should do?21:53
acheronukthat is the way yofl told be to version them, and it makes sense21:54
acheronuk*told me21:55
tsimonq2acheronuk: I'm just puzzled as to how I should check if a symbol needs to stay or not21:55
tsimonq2I know how to update them, just not to do when they are MISSING21:55
acheronukthat is the trick. I get stuck with some of them. so does clivejo. 21:56
tsimonq2acheronuk: so I guess I should read the C++ myself and see? :P21:57
acheronukit's not always hugely obvious to me from the code if they are safe to remove or not.21:57
tsimonq2or the diffs to see which C++ functions have been messed with21:57
acheronukthat is the idea, as much a pain as it is.21:58
acheronukand is why no-one 'likes' doing symbols very much!21:58
tsimonq2acheronuk: I have an idea. We solve all the KCI errors, and I mean ALL of them, then when symbols regress, we instantly have a diff to look at :P21:59
acheronukthe longer they get left, the harder it is to find the code change that caused them, certainly22:00
tsimonq2acheronuk: did you get a chance to take a look at qtxmlpatterns-opensource-src - 5.7.0-1~xenial2 in the Qt 5.7 PPA?22:01
acheronukThe following packages have unmet dependencies:22:02
acheronuk sbuild-build-depends-qtxmlpatterns-opensource-src-dummy : Depends: qtbase5-private-dev (>= 5.7.0)22:02
acheronukE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.22:02
tsimonq2I know, but we have qtbase5-private-dev_5.7.0+dfsg-3~xenial1_amd64.deb (1011.1 KiB) in that PPA22:03
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acheronukthen I would guess it was not published, or not installable for some other reason22:06
tsimonq2the latter wouldn't be good :/22:06
tsimonq2acheronuk: the symbols versions is 4:16.04.3+git20160830 ?22:08
acheronukif that is the buildlog version you are patching with22:09
tsimonq2oh so it goes by buildlog version?22:09
tsimonq2that's 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu122:09
* tsimonq2 is not sure what the versioning scheme yofl told you to use is22:10
acheronukthat would be 4:16.04.3+git2016083022:11
tsimonq2ahh that's right, with the epoch22:11
tsimonq2on http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html it has pkgkde-symbolshelper patch -p libfoo1 -v 1.8 < buildlog22:12
tsimonq2what do I replace libfoo1 with?22:13
tsimonq2libkf5akonadicore5 ?22:13
acheronuknot needed22:14
acheronukthe batchpatch version of the commend takes the library names from the buildlogs and symbols files22:15
tsimonq2aha k thanks :)22:17
acheronukthe diff in the buildlog includes the file to patch.22:18
tsimonq2OH that's super nice!22:23
tsimonq2thanks a lot acheronuk :)22:25
acheronukfor QT......22:25
acheronuktsimonq2: for xenial you'll need to upload a newer version of qtchooser than can be found in the xenial archive22:26
acheronukthe one in YY is new enough for qt 5.6/5.7 dependencies. the one in xenial by default is not22:27
acheronukThe following packages have unmet dependencies:22:28
acheronuk qt5-qmake : Depends: qtchooser (>= 55-gc9562a1-1~) but 52-gae5eeef-2build1~gcc5.2 is to be installed22:28
acheronuk qtbase5-dev-tools : Depends: qtchooser (>= 55-gc9562a1-1~) but 52-gae5eeef-2build1~gcc5.2 is to be installed22:28
acheronukE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages22:28
acheronukI found that when I did qt 5.622:29
tsimonq2ohhh I seee22:31
tsimonq2!info qtchooser xenial22:31
ubottuqtchooser (source: qtchooser): Wrapper to select between Qt development binary versions. In component main, is extra. Version 52-gae5eeef-2build1~gcc5.2 (xenial), package size 21 kB, installed size 97 kB22:31
tsimonq2!info qtchooser yakkety22:31
ubottuqtchooser (source: qtchooser): Wrapper to select between Qt development binary versions. In component main, is extra. Version 58-gfab25f1-1 (yakkety), package size 21 kB, installed size 108 kB22:31
* tsimonq2 steals binaries from acheronuk's old Qt 5.6 test PPA :P22:32
tsimonq2acheronuk: I have the side by side code here, I'd like to know, what makes a symbol safe to remove and unsafe to remove?23:12

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