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kaosineBashing-om: maybe I'd be better off in -server channel....since this is supposed to be a server install on a old computer for a personal type deal00:00
Bashing-omkaosine: Well, there is the #ubuntu-server channel here .00:01
kaosineBashing-om: yeah thought of that after the fact, so asked there right before you joined00:02
kaosineBashing-om: I'd put the install on a cd but mine are a max 700mb last I checked XD00:03
Bashing-omkaosine: :) I do try and follow through ... I be the 1st to say I am not a know-it-all .00:03
kaosineneither am I.....though I'm contemplating converting this computer to ubuntu or lubuntu but I need to get some money to renew my license for crossover and change it to linux so I have a way to run stuff on there XD00:05
* kaosine really hates the fact school forces him to use windows only software >_<00:05
Bashing-omkaosine: join #ubuntuforums . See if you can get CharlesA's attention . He is some kind of sharp on linux/servers/ school .00:06
kaosineBashing-om: well I'm wondering if it's the fact I had to use ubootnetin since I'm on mac(only on it since mom bought the original one for college and they replaced this one right as it was going out of warranty and now has another 2 years of life or so in warranty)00:09
Bashing-omkaosine: Possible . seen a few issues making up a menum with ubootnetin . maybe try and make it up with some other tool .. does not Mac support 'dd' ?00:10
kaosineBashing-om: never heard of that00:12
Bashing-omkaosine: Ya got time to see if 'dd' is on your Mac ? and a spare USB drive you can attempt to write to ?00:13
thebopeHello, I just set up an AWS EC2 instance with Amazon's Ubuntu 16.04 image and used "cut -d: /etc/passwd" to see a list of all users. I'm curious as to why there's an irc user on the default installation? And is there a resource somewhere to read about why all these different users exist, how to work with them, etc?00:18
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amflirhow can I forward all the traffic that goes to ethx to tun0?00:20
amflir*goes and come00:20
naccthebope: that user probably can't login, and is for running ircd00:21
thebopeahhh okay, thanks nacc, that makes sense00:22
naccthebope: it probably is not installed or available by default (ircd), but maybe common enough and its just there -- shouldn't really do any harm, afaict00:23
k1lthebope: its set to "nologin" as login shell00:23
kaosinecan anyone else help me with understanding why I get this error? it's telling me that "lvmetad is not active yet, using direct activation during sysinit" and just hanging there when trying to install00:25
ia__thebope, not an exact answer, but http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/197155 TL;DR - "stub" users for daemons due to security reasons (e.g., drop privileges)00:25
Sepher_hey00:26
k1lkaosine: is this the install? or the insatlled system?00:26
kaosinek1l: trying to install00:27
npcoalias update1='sudo apt-get update -y && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove ;' The autoremove part is not going through, can you tell me why/??00:28
k1lkaosine: did you try nomodeset?00:28
kaosinek1l: can't even tell how or where to set that in the installer....it just comes up to this screen00:29
OerHeksmaybe encrypted lvm ?00:29
kaosineOerHeks: IDK just used unetbootin to make it bootable on my mac....00:30
naccnpco: did any of the previous commands return non-zero?00:30
k1lunetbootin is known to have issues. try using dd00:30
kaosinek1l: how would I do it? I have no clue how to use it even using what I found...00:31
OerHeksdd the iso or etcher http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/etcher-usb-image-burner-tool-linux-open-source00:32
orsysbackupkaosine: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-create-disk-image-on-mac-os-x-with-dd-command/00:32
kaosineof course my computer won't let me delete whats already on the drive now >_<00:32
k1lkaosine: no need to delete, dd will just overwrite it.00:35
npconacc What is non zero?00:35
npcosf00:36
kaosinek1l: well was actually trying that etcher first... that link orsysbackup linked wasn't helpful when I found it first00:36
npcol00:36
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kaosineOerHeks: that etcher worked it's at least giving me the options for language now......just need to figure out why my monitor is a weird teal now XD00:39
naccnpco: do you understand what the && operator does?00:41
kaosineand man I forgot how loud this computer's CPU fan was....00:41
brimestonehey guys, can i run TLSv1.2 on my Apache 2.2.22?00:42
npconacc: it alows two commands to go through?00:43
naccnpco: no.00:43
naccnpco: if the first returns successfully (equivalent to true), then it will run the next, and so on, sequentially00:43
npcoit makes them go faster?00:44
npcowhats true00:44
naccnpco: ok, i'm assuming you're trolling and will stop helping now.00:44
npconacc Sorry00:44
juggernauthelo00:45
npcoThanks for your help here.00:47
npco:quit00:47
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kaosineok may need some help again....trying to install server and getting a lot of weird partitions when just trying to set it up01:03
gde33can one open a terminal from nautilus?01:10
gde33oh ic01:12
naccgde33: right-click, open in terminal?01:12
gde33I was looking for something like that but just open asks it and I read one can drag n drop things to the terminal01:13
naccgde33: i can't parse your sentence01:15
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gde33nacc: I was looking for something like right click open this in terminal. I just notice that opening an .sh asks if I want that. I also read on the interwebz that one can drag n drop things to the terminal and have the path show up there.01:16
naccgde33: well, not every file will make sense to open in a terminal01:16
naccgde33: that doesn't seem generically sensible01:17
gde33ah ic folders do have the open in terminal right click entry01:17
naccgde33: so nautilus provides you open a terminal here (meaning with cwd set to the open directory) and for .sh run it in the terminal01:17
gde33curious, opening it in a text editor by default seems a poor design choice? why is that?01:18
naccgde33: opening what in a text editor?01:18
gde33the .sh file01:18
naccgde33: you would rather you accidentally ran a shell script from a GUI?01:19
gde33sorry, should have been more clear01:19
naccgde33: also, if you want to *run* a shell script from a GUI, make it executable and double-click it01:19
gde33why not?01:19
gde33I dont really have acidental scripts on my disk (joking)01:20
gde33I'm no expert, all I know is that the number of steps from downloading, finding, relocating, etc, to being able to use something feels weird.01:23
naccif you're using a terminal, use the terminal; I don't really see what nautilus has to do with it01:25
naccgde33: but at this point, it sounds more like a general complain than a support topic, so i'll leave it there01:25
gde33true, thanks for being there :)01:26
OerHeksthat is part of nautilus-actions, open in terminal/open as administrator01:30
OerHeks!info nautilus-actions01:30
ubottunautilus-actions (source: nautilus-actions): nautilus extension to configure programs to launch. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.3-1build4 (yakkety), package size 11379 kB, installed size 29179 kB01:30
OerHeksgde33, ^^01:31
gde33ty01:32
kaosinenow I've got server installed but can't login01:33
OerHeksctrl alt f2 login01:35
unstophi01:51
mikeyhey all02:05
mk1testing weechat02:21
mk1sweet.02:21
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balerionplease can anyone tell me how to register my nickname02:29
wedgie!register02:29
ubottuFor information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.02:29
balerionthanks02:30
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coffeeguy-you know i like gnome :)02:38
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jaithMy workstation (my host machine) is running Ubuntu 14, I have a virtual machine running via VirtualBox. On my host machine's file system I created /var/www/foo and shared this with the vm. I mounted the shared folder on the vm and am successfully reading the files from the host machine. however, apache complains when it tries to write to files in the mounted/shared folder02:39
jaithcan someone tell me how I may share this folder so that apache running on the vm can write to the shared folder?02:40
B105PH3REjaith: Apache complains in which way?02:40
jaithapache on the vm complains in its primary error.log thusly: (1)Operation not permitted: AH00091: apache2: could not open error log file /var/www/foo/apache-logs/error.log.02:41
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jaithAH00015: Unable to open logs02:41
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B105PH3REjaith: Does apache-logs folder exist and you may have to add write access for group and/or other bit02:42
B105PH3REjaith: on the host system that is for that vm/shared folder02:42
jaithB105PH3RE: apache-logs does exist. afaik, apache should be able to write this directory despite not having permission because apache has root perm when mounting logs....02:43
B105PH3REjaith: how exactly did you share that vm folder did you make the shared folder inside of /var/www and called the shared folder foo or?02:43
B105PH3REjaith: except your using a unix host with a unix guest correct?02:43
B105PH3REunix host may be overriding the guest perms02:44
B105PH3REmake sure that host directory is 0777 mode and see if that works or not02:44
jaithB105PH3RE: I shared the folder using virtual box settings...a series of menues02:44
jaithB105PH3RE: reading the directory contents is not a problem02:44
jaithB105PH3RE: listing the apache-logs folder from the vm works fine also02:44
B105PH3REjaith: whats the complete chmod on that foo directory on the guest?02:45
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B105PH3REdrw-----02:45
jaith$ ls -dal /var/www/foo/apache-logs02:46
jaithdrwxr-xr-x 1 jaith jaith 4096 Feb 16 15:15 /var/www/foo/apache-logs02:46
B105PH3REjaith: you did not select read only when you created the share in virtualbox correct?02:46
jaithI did not02:47
B105PH3REjaith: if you apache running as www-data or apache02:47
jaithI selected automount and make permanent02:47
B105PH3REjaith: ok that should be good then02:47
jaithB105PH3RE: yes, apache runs as www-data (default when installed via apt)02:47
B105PH3REjaith: try changing the group for apache-logs to www-data02:47
B105PH3REadd write to group02:47
jaithas user jaith, i get an error trying to write apache-logs folder:02:48
jaith$ touch /var/www/oddballs-v2/apache-logs/foo02:48
jaithtouch: cannot touch '/var/www/oddballs-v2/apache-logs/foo': Protocol error02:48
B105PH3REchmod g+w02:48
jaithboth owner and group are currently jaith02:49
B105PH3REon the guest system you are doing this correct?02:49
jaithyes, on the vm02:49
jaithNOTE: user jaith exists both on host machine and vm02:49
B105PH3REon the host can you chmod 777 the shared folder02:49
jaithpretty sure this is a mount problem02:49
jaithlet me try 77702:49
B105PH3REpretty sure your user www-data doesn't have perms correctly02:49
jaithactually, i think it's a mount problem02:50
B105PH3REshouldnt be I done apche this way before02:50
jaithas i noted above, even user jaith doesn't have permissions to write this folder. I get protocol error:02:50
B105PH3REthe mount just create a link essentially02:50
jaith$ touch /var/www/foo/apache-logs/foo02:51
jaithtouch: cannot touch '/var/www/foo/apache-logs/foo': Protocol error02:51
B105PH3REcan root write there?02:51
jaithnope02:52
jaith$ sudo touch /var/www/foo/apache-logs/foo02:52
jaithtouch: cannot touch '/var/www/foo/apache-logs/foo': Protocol error02:52
B105PH3REthen I believe its a conficting perms since its unix unix02:52
B105PH3REhowever02:52
B105PH3REhow did you mount the shared folder on the unix system?02:53
kerananwhi everyone, does anybody know how to install ubuntu without an internet connection?02:53
globalOScd?02:53
jaithyes, let me rephrase question perhaps? what is correct mount command to mount a shared folder so it can be written from the guest machine02:53
B105PH3REwell what command are you currently using?02:54
jaithB105PH3RE: sudo mount -t vboxsf -o uid=$UID,gid=$(id -g) foo /var/www/foo02:54
B105PH3REsend your mount output for that device also02:55
jaithI found that command here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/SharedFolders02:55
kerananwjaith: you need to add your user to vboxsf? useradd [your-user-name] vboxsf, if I get your question right.02:56
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jaithB105PH3RE: not sure what you mean? this command simply returns, no message, no output: sudo mount -t vboxsf -o uid=$UID,gid=$(id -g) foo /var/www/foo02:57
B105PH3REif you type mount02:57
jaith?02:57
B105PH3REthere should be a line for the vobxsf02:57
B105PH3REvboxsf02:58
jaithah just mount, no options?02:58
B105PH3REcorrect02:58
jaith$ mount | grep vbox02:58
jaithfoo on /media/sf_foo type vboxsf (rw,nodev,relatime)02:58
jaithfoo on /var/www/foo type vboxsf (rw,nodev,relatime)02:58
B105PH3REkerananw: he's mounted a vbox shared folder but he doesn't have write permissions as root on guest system at all regardless of perms on folder02:59
B105PH3REjaith: well its showing rw so you should have write acess... on the host system the folder 77703:00
kerananwi guess adding the user to the vboxsf group could fix that right?03:00
jaithkerananw: no matter what user or privs I set on folder, I cannot write it from guest vm03:00
jaithB105PH3RE: was really hoping to avoid that....contents of said folder are quite elaborate. reversing 777 command a chore i expect03:00
kerananwI meant, on the guest os, run this command. adduser [your-user-name] vboxsf03:00
kerananwjaith: provided that your shared folder was auto mounted?03:01
B105PH3REjaith: only 777 the folder not its contents03:01
jaithkerananw: i did choose automount when creating the shared folder in the VirtualBox app, but the mount point /media/sf_foo is unsatisfactory, so I mounted it again03:01
B105PH3REtry using a temp folder for now then03:01
B105PH3REjaith: ok so your original is sf_foo03:02
kerananwah, sorry. my mind is wondering with my question too. i havent read B105PH3RE reply fully. maybe you could just mount it in /etc/fstab?03:02
tonytdoes ubuntu have a built in firewall? if so whats the name of it?03:03
kerananwufw tonyt03:03
tonytthanks03:03
B105PH3REtry unmounting the first one for now but I don't think thats the problem I think its cuz the user id are different from system and its trying to associate the perms with the a differnent jaith or something03:03
jaithcreating temp subdirectory in shared folder on host machine and setting 777 allows me to write that temp subdir from the guest machine03:03
tonyt<kerananw> does it have a gui?03:03
kerananwi believe it's gufw? i'm not really sure about that03:04
B105PH3REit DOES allow?03:04
tonytk03:04
B105PH3REjaith: so its working on the temp folder?03:04
jaithB105PH3RE: yes. when i create a subdirectory named "temp" on the host machine in the shared folder and set the permissions on "temp" to 777, I can touch inside this directory from the guest vm03:04
B105PH3REjaith: ok so you have to narrow down your permissions and figure out with ones cassing it03:05
jaithB105PH3RE: however, I *REALLY* don't want to make all folders 77703:05
B105PH3REwhich ones causing it03:05
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jaithOK getting somewhere03:06
B105PH3REjust make the logs folder for now 77703:06
jaithif i umount /var/www/foo on the guest vm, then i can now see the original mount, which is root/vboxsf03:06
B105PH3REumount the sf_foo you said you didn't want right03:07
jaith$ ls -dal /media/sf_foo03:07
jaithdrwxrwx--- 1 root vboxsf 4096 Feb 21 19:03 /media/sf_foo03:07
jaithlooks like automount might be problematic?03:07
B105PH3REif its not what you want then don't use it03:07
kerananwwould you mind telling me the thing that you're trying to do jaith?03:08
jaithkerananw: trying to share a working directory from my workstation so that it can be hosted by a different OS than I'm running on my workstation03:09
jaithkerananw: I work on my workstation in my working directory, i run a VM with Ubuntu 16.04 and apache et. al, that VM can write logs to the working directory -- but ALSO can write cache directory in it, other stuff. it's a laravel install so apache needs perms to write03:10
kerananwwhat's the problem on your virtualbox? you can't see your mounted fs?03:10
jaithkerananw: and since apache is running on the guest vm, guest vm's www-data user needs to be able to write certain directories on host machine03:11
jaithkerananw: apache on the guest vm can read the host machine's shared folder just fine. it's writing it that causes problems03:11
kerananwboth on root and your local user?03:12
jaithkerananw: neither sudo/root nor my own personal user was able to write the shared folder as mounted before. we just realized that if I unmount the shared folder as /var/www/foo, then its automount of /media/sf_foo returns and that /media/sf_foo is owned root:vboxsf03:13
kerananwbut you can change the contents on sf_foo?03:14
jaithkerananw: haven't tried yet. mount point of /media/sf_foo really sucks. would much rather have /var/www/foo03:14
jaithkerananw: working on not automounting but manually mounting instead03:15
kerananwcould you try if you can edit it?03:15
jaithkerananw: ?03:15
B105PH3REjaith: you could just create a link03:15
kerananwi mean, your sf_foo files. could you try and edit it? maybe you can just create a symbolic link as B105PH3RE suggested03:16
jaithB105PH3RE: note how the perms on automounted are root:vboxsf -- also not writable by www-data ?03:16
jaithseems like i need a better mount command03:16
jaithI've modified VirtualBox settings in the gui, unchecked automount and 'make permanent' (whatever THAT means)03:19
jaiththe dir /media/sf_foo still there03:19
jaithi removed that folder, rebooted the machine03:20
B105PH3REjaith: is it in the fstab?03:21
jaithnot yet03:22
B105PH3REI meant the /media/sf_foo since its still showing up03:25
jaithhaving trouble with network connection. network masked got mangled somehow?03:26
jaithok /media/sf_foo now gone03:28
jaithhowever, I am still unable to write the contents of /var/www/foo, even if I use sudo or roo perms03:30
wolftunestill trying to get my ssd to run… cloned my / partition to the ssd, have a efi boot partition, set that up as I think is right, tweaked fstab…03:30
wolftunewhen I try to boot off it (it's in a USB enclosure), it just sits there and doesn't proceed to boot03:31
jaithB105PH3RE: $ sudo touch /var/www/foo/apache-logs/foo03:31
jaithtouch: cannot touch '/var/www/foo/apache-logs/foo': Protocol error03:31
B105PH3REjaith: is the apache-logs 77703:32
jaithno it is not03:32
B105PH3REon host03:32
jaithas previously discussed, if i set it to 777 on host, i can then write it -- but that is not ideal at all03:32
B105PH3REonly for the logs folder I mean03:33
B105PH3REare you able to start apache at that point03:33
B105PH3REyou need to find out what user the host is trying to use for the user03:34
jaithB105PH3RE: I'll just try putting the apache log somewhere else. e.g., /var/log/apache2/foo/error.log or wahtever03:34
jaithB105PH3RE: every time i try and write shared folder, i get PROTOCOL ERROR unless the directory being written is 77703:35
B105PH3REjaith: so try this make a nother temp folder again with 777 on the guest touch a file and then on the host find out what the user is and group03:35
Bashing-omwolftune: Couple of thoughts . Mount the root from an external means and remove quiet splash from the /etc/default/grub file . Also verify the ' sudo blkid ' to what is set in the /etc/fstab file .03:36
coffeeguyquestion :) when i hit my backspace key my screen flickers in ubuntu with gnome03:37
coffeeguysorry it's hexchat03:39
chillumbabathanks03:39
coffeeguyfor what?03:40
explodesI added 8GB RAM for a total of 16GB. I ran memtest, I updated my BIOS, and I still run into issues when I'm using a "lot" of RAM.03:40
coffeeguydon't make me regret this03:40
coffeeguy:D03:40
B105PH3REcoffeeguy: sounds like a hardware issues can you monitor your volts could be a weak power supply03:41
coffeeguyit's a known problem wit hexchat03:41
jaithB105PH3RE: nice tricky suggestion there03:42
coffeeguyhttps://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/issues/83003:42
coffeeguyfyi :)03:42
tmuwawhich desktop environments are you using? Right now I am using Mate. But I am thinking about switching to gnome.03:44
tomtom52how should one install go on ubuntu?03:44
B105PH3REi303:44
jaithB105PH3RE: so on host machine, in shared folder, i created a subdir named "temp" with permissions 77503:44
jaithB105PH3RE: then, on vm, I did a touch temp/foo which successfully created a file "foo" i that temp dir03:45
wedgietomtom52: apt-get install golang03:45
aroonihow do i make sudo crontab -e; use vim and not nano ?03:47
jaithB105PH3RE: when I go to the HOST machine and list the contents of temp, i see the file foo and its permissions are jaith:jaith -- this is likely because on both my host machine and the vm, the user id of user 'jaith' is identical03:48
shameemHi guys, I've been using linux for nearly an year now.03:50
shameemI want to contribute through code.03:51
jaithB105PH3RE: there is a mount option, **user** that is described in the mount main pages. it is unrecognized when I use it from the cli directly, but I'm wondering what might happen if i put it in fstab?03:51
kerananwarooni: sudo select-editor03:51
shameemI'm familiar with Python and JavaScript.03:51
shameemAny suggesstions ?03:51
KalElWhat's the command from a terminal to shutdown my machine?03:51
shameemit's poweroff03:51
KalElThanks03:51
jaithshameem: python and javascript both require virtual machines and are therefore probably not especially helpful for core ubuntu dev03:51
shameemKalEl: No Prob.03:51
installAlso sudo systemctl poweroff03:51
shameemjaith: What about C or C++03:51
jaithshameem: that seems more useful, but I would imagine that you are much more likely to find opportunities developing some package or extension of ubuntu rather than ubuntu itself.03:53
shameemjaith: Any suggestions friend ?03:53
jaithshameem: the core devs are hard-core dudes and one must earn respect and climb the totem pole to get in -- you could try contacting canonical? they are the maintainers of ubuntu. or perhaps debian.org? they develop debian, upon which ubuntu is based03:53
shameemjaith: I'm a beginner. Never developed on a real project before, I'll probably need a mentor.03:54
jaithshameem: I'm not sure which packages might use python or Javascript. I'm no expert myself.03:54
shameemjaith: How do you contribute ?03:55
tmuwashameem: look here: https://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/03:55
OerHeks!contribute03:55
ubottuTo contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu03:55
jaithshameem: I did attempt myself to work on an extension to PHP (which is written in C/C++) -- the PHP guys have a mailing list. Contributing to documentation was something they definitely needed in the PHP group -- they have a markup they use from which the docs at php.net are auto-generated03:55
shameemHmm. Thanks. I'll look at the docs and let you know.03:56
jaithshameem: sadly, I think my only contributions are to help others find their way forward with things that I understand well -- this is most often some kind of PHP problem03:56
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Guest44354wonderful03:57
shameemjaith: Not to worry mate, anyways you are contributing to the community!!03:57
shameemjaith: It's just that different people and good at different things.03:57
townes234I know this isnt technically linux related. Anyone familiar with the Opera browse on desktop? Apologies for my English03:58
jaithshameem: doing what I can. I think the community appreciates any kind of help, however small. E.g., identifying reproducible problems and describing how exactly to reproduce them, etc. Helping noobs along, that sort of thing.03:58
shameemtownes234: I've used it before.03:58
shameemjath: You're right.03:58
townes234Okay... My father uses and set in his ways. For a long time, the speed dial showed unsorted bookmarks as thumbnails03:59
townes234Now it does not. Ive crawled through the settings, nothing, and search extensions03:59
shameemtownes324: Is the issue fixed ?03:59
townes234Unfortunately no. I dont see this in settings anywhere, and google is failing me04:00
shameemtownes324: Can you send me a screenshot in some way possible ?04:00
installWell, the Opera browser recently went from being developed by the original Opera team to becoming a Chrome clone. Is that when the bookmark thumbnails broke?04:00
townes234http://images.macworld.com/images/article/2011/07/opera115_01-247833.jpg <--- this is the speed dial04:00
townes234But we want it display unsorted bookmarks as it did before04:00
townes234Currently it displays ummm. just speed dial thumbnails04:00
shameemtownes324: I'll check and let you know.04:00
townes234Thanks. Strangely it was like this as default forever. Now it's like it never existed04:01
shameemtownes324: You still there ?04:02
townes234I even reckon this was default behaviour. But searching google images, no image I see shows it this way04:02
townes234Yeah just typing and googling04:02
shameemtownes324: Is your dad only familiar with opera ?04:02
installThese days the Opera team are developing Vivaldi web browser and it allows you to order your bookmarks manually.04:03
townes234shameem: Yeah. I've tried to switch him to Chrome or Firefox, he sticks with Opera lol04:03
townes234install: like bookmarks on the speed dial?04:03
townes234What is driving me crazy, this was the behaviour. Click on the 'start page' button, it would display bookmark thumbnails instead of the speed dial page. And no sidebar04:05
installI wouldn't use Chrome or Firefox (I find they have very difficult interfaces to use) but Vivaldi is pretty good.04:05
townes234No I take that back, it had the sidebar04:05
townes234install: mostly because those are the 2 I can work with04:05
townes234install: and personally I think Chrome is straight forward. But maybe bias from using it the most04:07
townes234With Opera...jesus. Interface is crazy04:07
gogetaChrome is handy as everything including addons sync up across pcs04:08
installBut it's hard to use04:08
townes234I don't know. I have the opposite opinion04:09
townes234To me the interface makes sense04:09
gogetahard to use?04:09
townes234Settings are easy to find and adjust imo04:09
townes234& bookmarks work the way they have since the late 90s. I reckon it's not 'beautiful' but it's familiar04:09
gogetayea i find it pretty easy but to eatch his own04:09
townes234Yeah. Like I said. Possibly biased from using it the most04:10
gogetagive firefox i try i still have love for that and its not a memery monster like chrome04:10
townes234I used firefox for years. Great browser but I dont use it much. Memory is fine except when the plugin-container is running in 5 or 6 tabs04:11
townes234But that 'bug' is present in Chrome as well04:11
glachehi04:12
glacheWhat bug?04:12
townes234I think it can be fixed by making plugin container only run in an open tab. Doesn't bother me tho04:12
townes234glache: in the latest versions, depending on your cpu, if plugin container is running many tabs04:12
townes234It will raise the temperature quickly04:12
townes234glache: in the latest versions, depending on your cpu, if plugin container is running many tabs04:13
townes234It will raise the temperature quickly04:13
townes234Like videos that use plugin-container04:13
glacheOh.04:13
townes234Not youtube etc. It's only certain umm04:13
gogetaso your saying it using alot of cpu04:13
townes234Let's say 18+ sites04:13
townes234Their players use it04:13
townes234gogeta: yeah. But I believe setting it to only run in an open tab prevents it04:14
townes234But yeah. it will jump your temp to 70, 80, 90 degrees F04:14
townes234Present in every browser that uses plugin-container & I believe (not 100%) sure, only certain cpus04:15
gogetanot to worryed on temps unless your fanless or something04:15
piyushhey, new to the forum here. Anyone knows a solution to fix the messed up screen after returning from suspend? I use a nvidia card04:17
gogetapiyush, you install the offical drivers04:18
piyushI did. Tried both 378 and 375. Still facing the problem04:18
townes234gogeta: yeah. Honestly it is kinda an isolated bug and appears to have a simple fix04:20
townes234gogeta: yeah. Honestly it is kinda an isolated bug and appears to have a simple fix04:20
townes234I gotta run. Cheers04:22
installpiyush: I use elementaryOS (descended from Ubuntu) on a laptop with nVidia graphics and it too has big problems resuming from suspend / hibernation.04:23
awdshello04:33
installHello awds!04:33
awdscan anybody help me out?04:33
installThat depends on what you need help with, of course.04:33
awdssure04:33
awdsIm trying to use latex04:34
kk4ewttexlive?04:34
jaithB105PH3RE: not sure if you care, but adding user jaith to group vboxsf also doesn't help.04:34
awdsso googled for help and found that for me to generate a pdf from a .tex file i gotta use the cmd: su -c 'yum install -y texlive'04:35
awdskk4ewt:  dont know the difference really... :/04:35
installawds: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?chat=latex would show you there is a #latex channel.04:35
kerananwjaith: you have to reboot your guest after adding04:36
jaithkerananw: wow! totally forgot that. thx04:36
kk4ewtawds so what are you having problems04:36
awsdsorry, got a conection problem04:40
jaithkerananw: still no joy after reboot :'(04:41
awsdso about that cmd... when  I type it it shows a msg for authentication, that fails and I know the password is correct :/04:42
awsdhelp pls :~04:43
kerananwsorry, i don't really get your problem that much. if you don't mind, maybe we can start from the beggining?04:43
kerananwjaith:04:43
kerananwall i know is that you wanted to access your host file from guest?04:44
jaithkerananw: I have a working directory on host. source files for a php project. apache needs to write some directories in this working directory (a requirement of laravel, a PHP framework). apache is running on the VirtualBox guest vm04:45
kerananwok, and you have an apache server on your host and guest?04:46
jaithkerananw: yes, but apache server on host is not serving files from this particular directory04:46
azizLIGHTi got too many kernels in /boot. to remove them, is it correct that i gotta purge packages like linux-image-3.13.0-85-generic and then also this package: linux-headers-3.13.0-85 and linux-headers-3.13.0-85-generic also? anything else?04:46
jaithkerananw: additionally, i have moved apache logs out of working directory into another location04:47
awsdanybody can help me with latex?04:47
kerananwjaith: but you wanted to access some apache files from host to guess if I get it right?04:47
azizLIGHTanybody CAN help, but anybody WILL help?04:47
awsdlol04:48
awsdtrue04:48
jaithkerananw: apache running on guest needs to *write* some files on host -- here lies the problem04:48
jaithkerananw: it is easy for guest to read the files in my shared folder, but granting write access to apache running on guest is another matter04:49
awsdI think its something really simple, but I got no clue what Im doing... I got all files and templates from a friend, all I gotta do is write my stuff over his on my work04:49
kerananwjaith: can you try to automount that apache folder to your guest?04:49
awsdbut I dont know how to generate the pdf04:49
kerananwjaith: I'm guessing that you're just having permission errors imo04:49
awsdazizLIGHT:  will you help me, dude?04:51
awsdpls :/04:52
notadeveloperI wish amazon could make an accuvideo in partnership with accuradio and vimeo04:52
notadeveloperoh well04:52
installawds: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?chat=latex would show you there is a #latex channel.04:52
installSo just type  /join #latex and the people there know more about it than some of the people here.04:52
awsdinstall:  Im there, the channel is dead :/04:53
kerananwjaith: also, on your host, your default user can edit the apache files without using sudo right?04:53
installHow long have you waited? You might need to wait a day or two to get a response.04:53
install(People there are probably asleep if they're in another part of the world to you)04:53
awsdits 2 am here but ok... was hoping to finish my work till morning04:54
awsdthanks anyway04:54
installPeople can only be available when they can, and know as much as they do... that sort of thing is hard to control into your schedule!04:55
stickyrice1That's a funny 5th Element name04:56
fsckqHow can I update fsck package only? When I am trying to apply fsck on a partition, it asks me to get a newer version of e2fsck04:57
notadeveloperi would subscribe to amazon prime if they have music videos04:58
notadeveloperfrom accuradio artist04:58
notadeveloperbut04:58
notadevelopernvm04:58
notadeveloperdont mind me04:58
awsdinstall:  I know, dude. As I said, think its a simple thing and thought could be easyly solved. I would ask a friend but they r asleep. Im not impatient or anything...=p04:58
installAlright :-)04:58
fsckqOkay, I found apt-get install --only-upgrade option. But which package will update fsck package?04:59
fsckq!fsck04:59
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot04:59
jaithkerananw: use of term 'apache files' is confusing. all files in working directory on host are PHP source code owned on host machine by user jaith. i've had a problem changing any of these files from guest while logged in as user jaith -- note the jaith user on the host machine and the jaith user on the guest vm have the exact same user id: 100005:00
fsckqI did man fsck, it said that it is part of util-linux package and then I tried to upgrade that pacakge alone using apt-get install --only-upgrade command but it said that it is already upgraded05:01
fsckqI am unable to perform fsck on a partition since it is asking me to get a newer version of e2fsck but how to get that?05:02
kerananwjaith: sorry, i thought that you were talking about the apache configs. ah, ok, so you can just access your php files on your hosts. have you tried automounting your folder again?05:02
Countess_Bathorysome useless info: I had the same e2fsck problem, with it say I have old version ,  but it only said that with trying to run it on a old OCZ SSD .  it was fine with more than a dozen newer drives (SSD & HDD)05:07
notadeveloperoh05:09
notadeveloperlol05:09
notadeveloperdont mind me05:10
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Maximus2Ok so I know how to assign multiple IP's to one interface. But how does one assign a ip range? I need to assign 50 ip's. I know that in redhat you can do this with one file but what about ubuntu?05:18
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astroWhy is the ubuntu software store so slow and laggy compared to other apps?05:29
boristheanimalwhich other apps astro? :|05:34
ArchbuntuserHello!05:42
RegexCoderHola06:04
EriC^^hi06:04
RegexCoderI just wanna find out weather is it save to partition ubuntu with windows 10.06:06
EriC^^yes it's safe06:06
RegexCoderThank guys... bye...06:06
EriC^^you mean dual boot, right?06:06
RegexCoder"thank you "06:06
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thereisnocowdoes anyone on the ubuntu kernel team do any testing of the kernels before they push a new version?06:33
lotuspsychjethereisnocow: of course kernels get tested, why?06:33
thereisnocowlotuspsychje: a bug with encrypted swap was "fixed" in 4.4.0-[58-62] which then caused those kernels to kill big processes with OOM06:35
thereisnocowsuper duper!06:35
thereisnocowhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/165584206:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1655842 in linux (Ubuntu Xenial) ""Out of memory" errors after upgrade to 4.4.0-59" [High,Fix released]06:35
lotuspsychjethereisnocow: you created the bug?06:35
thereisnocownope06:36
lotuspsychjethereisnocow: well i strongly recommend you add your experience to this existing bug then06:36
thereisnocowI see the exact symptoms06:36
lotuspsychjethereisnocow: the more users add to the bug, the quicker itl get solved06:37
lotuspsychjethereisnocow: wich ubuntu version are you on? system up to date?06:37
thereisnocowyeeeep06:38
thereisnocow16.04 LTS06:38
thereisnocowapparently LTS does not mean stable06:38
lotuspsychjethereisnocow: you cant generalize06:38
NoCodeIs there anyway to have two plank docks running at the same time with different icons on it?06:39
lotuspsychjethereisnocow: did you try a sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ?06:39
thereisnocowyep, fully aware that 4.4.0-63 is out as of today or yesterday06:39
thereisnocowbut still a huge breakage that requires a reboot06:39
thereisnocowquestion wasn't really to fix my box, just curious if it's only one person managing the LTS kernels06:40
lotuspsychjethereisnocow: there's a whole team on kernel testing, but doesnt prevent new bugs06:41
lotuspsychjethereisnocow: finding new bugs is a good thing, to get it solved more stable kernels06:41
anddamplaying a youtube video keeps firefox at about 80% cpu time, on a Skylake i5 2. something GHz06:42
thereisnocowI gueessss06:42
anddamthat seems a bit high, the video is 480p06:42
anddamanything that needs to be done to have some hw acceleration of sorta?06:42
thereisnocowlike, I see that perspective, just think a little more process to be done before a new kernel is released to LTS06:43
lotuspsychjeanddam: got the right graphics drivers?06:43
lotuspsychjethereisnocow: perhaps visit #ubuntu-kernel ?06:43
alkisganddam: 80% of one kernel; full use of 2 kernels would be 200%06:44
anddamalkisg: s/kernel/core?06:46
alkisganddam: yes sorry06:46
anddamyea, I know, still high06:47
alkisganddam: for software decoding of 480p? I don't think so...06:47
anddamthis is hyperthreading or whatever intel calls it, I figure, so 4 cores06:47
anddamalkisg: how do I check if it's software?06:47
anddamor if I have the right graphics driver?06:47
alkisganddam: what's the exact cpu name? grep model /proc/cpuinfo06:47
anddamI'm alread reading there, how's the field called?06:48
anddammodel name?06:48
alkisgYes, that's why I gave a grep command for it :)06:48
anddamI guess so, Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6200U CPU @ 2.30GHz06:48
anddamoh I didn't read the grep part06:48
anddammodel 7806:48
alkisghttp://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-6200U+%40+2.30GHz => 3945 score, do you want to give me the youtube url to compare with my i5?06:49
alkisgPM me if you want06:49
alkisg80% of one core is 20% of the cpu; doesn't sound that bad for software decoding06:50
anddamwell the hyperthreaded cores are virtual, it's not like they have the same computational power of a real one06:52
anddambut I don't really know how HT parallelism works06:53
anddamthe thing isn's specific to any video, I just clicked on a06:53
anddam"BEST--- classic rock mix" playlist on youtube06:53
anddamhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZN_exA7d4RVmCQrG5VlWIjMOkMFZVVOc for reference06:54
alkisganddam: this 480p video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhSC7LyEbjU, takes 40% of one core of my https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4440+%40+3.10GHz CPU with score=642906:55
alkisgSo it's in par with what you report, based on the cpu score06:56
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anddamalkisg: so that makes two of us who need hw acceleration07:08
tatertotsaww you guys don't get hw accel...that sucks07:13
tatertotson the bright side you'll know what to look for next time you're shopping for a new computer07:13
anddamtatertots: and what's that?07:26
alkisganddam, tatertots, I prefer it if the decoding happens in cpu than in gpu, as long as the cpu can handle it. For example, rpi does it in gpu, and that sucks, because you need specialized software just to see videos07:26
alkisganddam, tatertots, of course we could also easily enable va-api for our cpus, but I don't care :)07:26
anddamalkisg: ideally you'd use OS's native features and some driver07:27
anddamtatertots: btw I just bought this one07:27
alkisganddam: the linux "os" doesn't have an api for video decoding07:27
alkisgSo browsers implement it internally07:27
alkisghttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563206 is the bug report for hw acceleration on firefox07:29
ubottuMozilla bug 563206 in Audio/Video: Playback "Feature Request: HTML5 video GPU acceleration" [Enhancement,Unconfirmed]07:29
anddamreally, linux doesn't have any hw decoding feature?07:29
anddamoh, you said there's not an API, so not a standard access07:30
alkisg"Back then, when Firefox used gstreamer to decode video, there was some unofficial experiments with using gstreamer-vaapi to get HW decoding with firefox. The actual benefit of doing it was not big," ... read on...07:30
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Guest58295can somwon help me with a c problem?07:31
ducasseGuest58295: try ##c07:32
anddamGuest58295: also change your nick, and "someone"07:32
anddamenhance your chances to get an answer07:33
anddamalkisg: reading07:33
EriC^^anddam: in ##c he's going to need a degree in english literature07:33
EriC^^with a minor in pedanticiry (yes, just made that up)07:33
anddamEriC^^: mmm, you probably meant "Pedantry"07:34
anddam</pedanticiry mode off>07:34
Guest58295can you tell me how to create a header file and include it in a c file?07:34
anddamGuest58295: that's easy, use a text editor, and save the file as .h07:34
EriC^^Guest58295: create it as usual, then do include "yourheader.h"07:35
anddamGuest58295: then in the C source file use the macro #include07:35
anddamEriC^^: you didn't seem to like the joke07:35
anddampedanticiry much?07:35
EriC^^lol what?07:35
Guest58295guys i have 2 .c files and i want one c file to convert in header file but i dont know to to do that07:36
anddamcompletely different topic: have you guys read about ElementaryOS? It's based on Ubuntu and has a couple very clear guidelines about design and UX, I have to say I liked what I saw, very much07:36
anddamjust curious what a regular ubuntu-er would think about it07:37
Guest58295elementaryOS i tested it and its goo its look great but eat a lot of resources07:37
anddamback to the ubuntu topic, why do I have a /bin/open link to openvt?07:37
anddamI expected open to be an alias/symlink to xdg-open actually07:38
anddamwhere expected is actually "hoped"07:38
anddamGuest58295: what resources?07:40
anddamto me almost any OS I tried usually sits there idle07:40
anddamI had the misfortune to use windows as well and it doesn't work like that, but I don't count it as "OS" so the point still stands07:41
NorthernHorse_g-morning all!    Can someone plz point me in the right direction (resource) to setting up Client VPN connectivity with MS Direct Access VPN server07:42
anddamGuest58295: also the main point is not how it looks, but how it works07:44
anddamlook is futile but ergonomics is not07:44
Guest58295can i have in a.h file a int main function?07:44
anddamsadly I think you can, but this are likely better suited in ##C or whatever it's called07:45
anddams/this/these kinds of question07:45
B105PH3RENorthernHorse_: are you using ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu?07:51
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Darcksidesw07:51
NorthernHorse_B105PH3RE: Ubuntu07:52
DarcksidesHello, i have a two file script write in C and how to integrate flappy-help.c in flapp.c . This is source code: https://github.com/Flappy-Lang/FlappyLang-REPL/blob/master/flappy-help.c and this is source code for flappy.c is here: https://github.com/Flappy-Lang/FlappyLang-REPL/blob/master/flappy.c07:53
NorthernHorse_im recieving a couple of errors from the syslog - of which i do not unnecessarily want to post here until i have tried all possible configs07:54
B105PH3REthen I don't necessarily want to see it either...07:55
B105PH3REif its a login error07:55
B105PH3REYou can add a VPN connection through network manager applet on your ubuntu desktop I believe07:55
anddamDarcksides: I like how you keep trying, also misspelling my name in query and asking for skype support, that I will never ever provide07:55
anddamDarcksides: I'm not even convinced you aren't just trolling, just in case you're not, learn to ask questions in a useful way and listen to what you're told, specifically about the channels07:56
anddamis there a factoid for "how to ask questions the smart way"?07:56
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anddamalkisg: wow that ticket is long08:04
alkisganddam: haha, gpu acceleration is a long topic :D08:04
anddamalkisg: tl;dr no acceleration in FF for now, and that's it08:05
alkisgYup08:05
anddamalkisg: btw how this relates to the old "glx acceleration in X11"?08:05
anddamnot that I'm going to start games here, still I'd like my fglrx gears to spin at full throttle08:06
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alkisggl is not too related to video decoding08:07
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anddamah, that was specific to decoding08:10
hateballanddam: hw accel should work in chromium, if you want to compare08:12
hateballI think there are various scripts that let you render stuff from youtube using mplayer or such also08:13
kierqueenhi08:24
kierqueenanyone can login on my ubuntu thuderbird?08:25
kierqueenemail? So do I have to encrypt the home folder?08:25
kierqueenI hate to feed the password, but when I secure the thunderbird, I need to feed it twice ?08:25
kierqueenone for the thunderbird , and the other for the email08:26
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B105PH3REkierqueen: did you try using a master password in thunderbird08:28
kierqueenyes08:28
B105PH3REnogo08:28
kierqueenbut now I want to unremember the password08:28
B105PH3REyou mean change it08:28
kierqueenI did check that box while making that, but now see that box nowhere in the settings, so where is it located?08:29
kierqueenI didn't touch the master password settings08:29
B105PH3REsecurity and then passwords08:29
B105PH3REunder thunderbird preferences08:29
Guest80713someone know how to enale su command in ubuntu-MATE08:31
alkisgGuest80713: use `sudo -i` to get root08:32
B105PH3REthey always leave before we can respond08:34
Guest80713i have an issues on my ubuntu mate sometimes i cant use fn key to reduce the brightnes can someone help me?08:37
hateballGuest80713: does the key not work at all?08:37
hateballGuest80713: are you able to increase brightness with the other key?08:37
Guest80713hateball, i can reduce the brightnes or increase them only that is the problem08:38
Guest80713yes the volume control its working prefectly08:38
B105PH3REif relogin does it work again08:40
Guest80713yes08:40
Guest80713its work if i reloging08:41
B105PH3REmight be the applet crashing that takes care of that08:41
Guest80713can somehow to fix ?08:41
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Guest80713as08:42
Guest80713a08:43
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turistahello every1, is it possible to reset or something the source list file?¿08:59
turistato clean the repository and key's added08:59
k1lturista: what is the issue?09:00
turistaI'm mad with the intel-graphics-update-tool and the wikest or something key09:00
turista"uses weak digest algorithm"09:01
turistaalso I couldn't ppa-purge the apt-fast; it gets back when I use the apt-get update09:01
MacroManI can't upgrade linux-image, linux-generic or linux-image-extra. Here is the log I get from dist-upgrade: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24045482/09:02
k1l!ppa-purge | turista09:02
ubottuturista: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html09:02
turistaI did that; but it does not work dunno why09:02
turistasudo ppa-purge ppa:apt-fast/stable09:03
turistasudo ppa-purge -o apt-fast also ppa-purge [ppa]:apt-fast09:03
turistaand so on p.q09:03
k1lturista: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"09:04
k1lMacroMan: "gzip: stdout: No space left on device"09:04
k1lMacroMan: df -h | nc termbin.com 999909:04
k1land show the output url in here please09:04
MacroManhttp://termbin.com/sneo09:05
turistahttp://termbin.com/kbpg09:06
alkisgMacroMan: full /boot... yet another one :)09:06
alkisgturista: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/intellinuxgraphics.list; sudo apt-get update => is it ok with that?09:07
k1lMacroMan: "ls -al /boot | nc termbin.com 9999"09:07
MacroManI haven't stored anything on /boot myself. How can it be full?09:07
alkisgMacroMan: that's where the kernel and initrd goes09:07
k1lMacroMan: kernels get put there09:07
alkisgMacroMan: so on updates, you get a lot of kernels there, and you need to remove the old ones periodically; or grow your /boot09:07
MacroManI do `apt autoremove` after every update09:07
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alkisgThat doesn't remove old kernels09:08
MacroManAh. What does please?09:08
k1lit does since 16.0409:08
MacroManI'm on 16.0409:08
MacroManAlbeit an upgrade from 14.0409:08
k1lturista: sudo ppa-purge ppa:apt-fast/stable09:08
MacroManbtw, this is a live web server, I can't have things go wrong.09:09
Guest33227Hello :)09:09
turistait still show up that apt-fast09:09
alkisgk1l: good to know, thanks09:09
Guest33227how do i change the permission for the owner :)? what i the command09:09
Guest33227is*09:09
k1lGuest33227: chown09:09
Guest33227how do i use it ^^?09:10
MacroManGuest33227, Try using `man chown`09:10
Guest33227in the terminal?09:10
k1lturista: wait, that ppa doesnt even have xenial pacakges09:10
alkisg(11:07:07 πμ) k1l: MacroMan: "ls -al /boot | nc termbin.com 9999"09:10
k1lturista: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/apt-fast-ubuntu-stable-xenial.list*09:11
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MacroManGuest33227, Yes. `man chown` will show the user manual for chown09:12
k1lGuest33227: you still need to set the options for chown. i dont know what you want to do there09:12
MacroManalkisg, http://termbin.com/e6op09:12
andreleonardoso  have to use "man chown" to change the owner permissions?09:12
k1lMacroMan: what is uname -r?09:12
turistait working thx!09:12
andreleonardono i want change the owner ! im sorry09:12
andreleonardoi dont want change the owner permissions i want change the owner of a file09:13
k1landreleonardo: no, "man chown" will explain how the command works09:13
k1landreleonardo: we dont know what you want to change there. its usally like chown user:group /path/to/some/file09:13
andreleonardook09:14
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MacroManalkisg, I'm looking at this askubuntu post: http://askubuntu.com/questions/345588/what-is-the-safest-way-to-clean-up-boot-partition09:14
andreleonardoim in a school lesson right now and i have to figure out how i can change the owner of a file09:14
MacroManandreleonardo, Then use the manual! `man chown`09:15
alkisgMacroMan: You didn't reply to k1l's question for `uname -r`. Anyway, I would start with `mv /boot/initrd* /tmp; apt-get install -f` to make space to finish the upgrade, and then I would try `apt autoremove`09:15
andreleonardomanual!09:15
PixPpchown @andr09:15
andreleonardochown fax:mail dataname.xyz like this?09:15
k1lalkisg: its enough to use dpkg to remove old kernel packages09:16
PixPpI'm looking for a way to set a specific text on every line in alot of files. Anyone with an idea?09:16
PixPpI want to set the number 0 on line 4 on lots of files..09:16
MacroMank1l, `uname -r`: http://termbin.com/psn109:16
alkisgMacroMan: so, you can remove all kernels except for the running one, 62, and the last one, 6409:17
k1lMacroMan: ok one last pastebin " dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999"09:17
anddamcan apt-cache search only in specific sections?09:18
MacroMank1l, http://termbin.com/ieun09:18
MacroManWhoa, I've still got all those images installed09:19
leeyaahello09:19
leeyaai need to install mysql 5.5 on 16.04 LTS is there any repo I can use ?09:19
jaylyhello09:19
k1lMarco: sudo dpkg -r linux-image-4.4.0-57-generic linux-image-4.4.0-59-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-57-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-59-generic"09:19
k1l!info mysql xenial09:20
ubottuPackage mysql does not exist in xenial09:20
leeyaak1l: xenial has just 5.709:20
k1l!info mysql-server xenial09:20
ubottumysql-server (source: mysql-5.7): MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.7.17-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 9 kB, installed size 170 kB09:20
leeyaai need 5.509:20
anddamMacroMan: it's not that much09:20
k1lMacroMan: only the ones with "ii" are installed09:20
zherlockAnyone played with auditd modules for puppet? Looking for a good one that notifies auditd to refresh etc when any audit rules updates09:20
anddamMacroMan: aren't those 6?09:20
MacroManAh OK09:21
anddamk1l: aren't only ^.i installed?09:21
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anddamI don't seem to figure a way to search by section (e.g. only 'admin', or only 'games') in apt-cache, do I need aptitude instead?09:22
flughafendoes ubuntu have a dhclient command?09:23
anddamleeyaa: why do you need 5.5?09:23
anddamflughafen: $ which dhclient09:23
anddam/sbin/dhclient09:23
anddamflughafen: I'm going with 'yes'09:23
leeyaaanddam: i am testing something and for that test i need 5.5, 5.6 and 5.7 running from the same machine (not at the same time)\09:23
flughafenthanks anddam (someone is asking about stuff on an linux4tegra machine)09:23
leeyaathere used to be a repo for it, but it is not longer workign09:24
MacroMank1l, OK It's removed those and immediately tried to install 4.4.0-64 when I did autoremove and /boot is full again.09:26
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MacroManSafe to remove 63 & 63?09:26
oeg1688hallo09:26
MacroMan*62 & 6309:26
anddamMacroMan: how big is your boot partition?09:27
k1lMacroMan: 62 is your actual kernel09:27
k1lMacroMan: and 180mb is really way to tight for /boot09:27
anddamk1l: oh that will work fine on next reboot09:27
leeyaawell anyway i guess ill use source for my tests09:27
leeyaasigh09:27
MacroManSo can I remove 64 to make some space for now?09:28
k1lMacroMan:  " dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999"09:28
MacroManhttp://termbin.com/61e209:29
k1lMacroMan: sudo dpkg -r linux-image-4.4.0-63-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-63-generic09:30
initialhello09:31
MacroMank1l, When I reboot will I be on 64?09:31
k1lMacroMan: yes09:31
MacroManOK. I've removed 63, I'll reboot and remove 62 too09:32
PixPpAnyone an idea how to fix this error? java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread09:32
PixPpGiving more memory won't work.09:32
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k1lMacroMan: you might want to purge linux-generic-lts-vivid09:34
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MacroMank1l, Not sure I understand. What's linux-generic-lts-vivid and why should I purge it?09:37
k1lthat is an old 14.04 package09:37
MacroManOK thanks. I'll give it a go.09:37
flughafendoes ubunutu not use /etc/sysconfig/network for network stuff?09:38
flughafenconfigs and stuff?09:38
aarannHi, I am studing for the LPIC exam and one of my flashcards says "How can the existing environment variable FOOBAR be suppressed for the execution of the script./myscript only?" however I am not sure if the answer it gives as correct is correct...  C. env -u FOOBAR./myscript09:39
k1lflughafen: /etc/network/interfaces if network-manager is not used09:39
aarannas I cannot see a -u option for env on its man page09:40
flughafenk1l: i think gnome and evyerhting is installed, so, netowrk manager is probably there also09:40
alkisgaarann: manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/en/man1/env.1.html09:42
aarannoh I was looking here http://www.unix.com/man-page/posix/1p/env/09:43
besiHello I have installed an nvidia driver but then my screen resolution is too big, now I can not change my screen resolution?09:44
fyfinstall tweak toil09:44
besiit is a linux mint os09:45
MacroManI'm looking at changing partition sizes to increase /boot, but all the options require booting from live USB etc. Is there method I can use with the computer booted?09:45
k1l!mint | besi09:45
ubottubesi: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org09:45
k1lbesi: ask them, they handle some things differently than ubuntu09:46
MacroManIt's a live server that I cannot take offline, nor even physically access09:46
k1lMacroMan: you cant resize mounted partitions.09:46
MacroManand I assume you can't unmount /boot?09:46
k1lmost hosters have a recovery console for that09:47
k1lMacroMan: you can unmount /boot and resize that. but most times that included to shrink other partitions to make space.09:47
MacroManThanks. Would it be safe to umount and shrink /dev ?09:48
MacroManOh wait, that's not a disk09:48
andystarHow do I check which kernel I have running?09:49
MacroManuname -r09:49
MacroMank1l, Anyway I've got /boot down to 39% usage for now. Thank you09:50
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andystarThanks MacroMan09:50
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andystaralkisg showed me how to see if my graphics card worked with Ubuntu.09:52
andystarHe gave me this link.09:52
andystarhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver09:52
WhirHi, my wifi only works if I do a 'service network-manager restart' after boot..I tried to automate it via cron, but the network still does not come up..I guess cron restarts the service too early?! Is there another way to restart it later? when I do it manually after boot and login it succesfully connects me to the wifi network09:53
Whirsyslog shows cron runs that command @reboot09:54
andystarIt looks like my graphics card works with the driver that comes with Ubuntu.  The graphics card is:  01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200 Series] [1002:5954]09:54
k1landystar: that sounds like an old ati card. so your only chance is the open source radeon driver09:56
andystarMy kernel, from the 'uname -r' command just given, is: 4.2.0-42-generic09:56
k1landystar: what is "lsb_release -sd"?09:56
andystark1l, Ubuntu 15.1009:57
k1landystar: you need to upgrade to 16.04 asap.09:58
andystarWhy?09:58
k1l!15.1009:58
ubottuUbuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) was the 23rd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 28th, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/wily09:58
k1lyou are without any security updates since july last year09:58
k1l16.04 is a LTS, that will have 5 years support from release day. so still 4 years left.09:58
andystarDoes this have to do with getting support from the Ubuntu chat room?09:59
k1lthat too. but just look at ubuntu.com/usn all those security related updates are not coming to your system since last july.10:00
andystarI am not running a web server.10:00
k1l then upgrade asap10:00
andystarMy computer is behind a firewall, and Linux doesn't get viruses.10:01
k1lthat is wrong10:01
anddamany hint about the apt-cache question? can it search sections?10:01
k1la firewall doesnt help you. and its not about viruse but about security issues in software. like bugs. they get fixed by ubuntu, but not for you anymore10:01
k1landystar: really: upgrade to 16.04. then you have 4 years of not needing to upgrade left10:02
andystarAnyways, my main question was, if I install a new version of Ubuntu, I don't have to go with Xubuntu or Lubuntu anymore, if 3D graphics support works now?10:02
hateballandystar: you can just run a liveboot and find out. and you should upgrade to 16.04 regardless, like k1l said10:03
andystark1l I am not quite opposed to upgrading every once in a while.10:04
andystarIt was just, I used to upgrade as often as possible.10:05
k1landystar: is there a reason why you dont want to upgrade? because you are on your own now when you dont want to upgrade. you are already 9 months late.10:05
andystarThen I discovered that reinstalling all of my software was too much of a hassle, even with a separate /home partition.10:05
k1landystar: you dont need to reinstall. you can do the online upgrade10:06
hateball!clone |even if you do reinstall10:06
ubottueven if you do reinstall: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate10:06
andystark1l, Are you talking about the dist-upgrade command?10:06
k1landystar: no, apt dist-upgrade doesnt upgrade to a new ubuntu10:06
k1landystar: do-release-upgrade10:06
andystarIs it okay to go ahead and upgrade it to 16.10, instead of stopping at 16.04?10:08
k1landystar: technically yes. but the way you try to justify your usage of 15.10 i dont think you should leave the lts, to be honest.10:08
andystarIt was just based on a conversation with my brother, after vi didn't seem to work right.10:09
andystarHe said I should install the vim package, and he wasn't in the habit of doing a clean reinstall every version.10:10
andystarI guess clean reinstalls are reserved for when your system has a problem?10:12
andystarOtherwise I can just do the do-release-upgrade command every six months?10:13
k1lthe upgrade on ubuntu do get automated testings since some years now and they work.10:13
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hateballandystar: if you upgrade past LTS, you'll need to do-release-upgrade every 6-9 months or you go EOL10:14
hateballand solving that situation down the line is an unneccessary hassle10:14
andyworkabout upgrades, are there any prompts in place on Ubuntu that warns the user when an lts or later version goes out of support?10:17
andyworkk1l, hateball10:19
hateballandywork: afaik no10:19
k1liirc the udpate-manager does this and the motd on ssh login10:20
hateballandywork: but for LTS, you wont get prompted to upgrade until the next (pointrelease) LTS is available10:20
hateballandywork: so that'd serve as a reminder at any rate10:20
andyworkk1l, hateball: ok, thanks10:21
MaxFrameshello10:36
MaxFramesI have a 16.04 virtual machine which is somehow (can't remeber how) joined to a windows active directory domain10:36
MaxFramesI have renamed this machine, but the computer name and the dns host entry in the windows domain controller haven't reflected the change10:37
MaxFramesin an effort to troubleshoot this I've tried to install likewise-open-gui and found it's no longer in the repository10:37
MaxFramescan you help me? is there a tool (command line or gui) that has replaced likewise-open-* ?10:37
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hateballMaxFrames: havent used this myself, but I think sssd is used these days https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html10:40
MaxFramesapparently this machine had been joined using likewise-open, and then upgraded to 16.04 from some previous release10:43
MaxFramesthere are traces of likewise-open in /etc/krb5.conf10:44
abacaoMaxFrames I had several issues when updating from 14.04 to 16.04 and mantain the retro compatibility10:45
ppfMaxFrames: how did you rename the machine10:45
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MaxFramesppf: via the gui: options-system-details-device name10:46
abacaoMaxFrames:  I even submited a bug because Ubuntu 16.04 wasn't able to join a domain10:47
abacaoand it seems that it isn't resolved yet10:48
abacaohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/158511110:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1585111 in samba (Ubuntu) "net rpc join fails in Ubuntu 16.04" [High,Confirmed]10:48
ppfMaxFrames: hm, no idea what that does10:48
ppfchecki /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts10:49
MaxFramesdone. I had to change the entry in /etc/hosts10:49
MaxFramesthat still doesn't change computername in AD or update the A record10:49
ppfdoesn't the domain controller manage those?10:50
abacaoMaxFrames: I think your connection to AD is broken, so you can change whatever you want but you will not see any changes.10:51
MaxFramesI can delete the computer account manually and recreate it10:51
MaxFramesabacao: I too think so, I'm trying to fix it with sssd now10:52
abacaoI suggest you try 2 approach:10:53
abacao- VM with 14.04 and try the solution, after you found it, try to replicate it to 16.0410:54
abacao- try to connect a fresh installed (no upgrade) 16.04 and see if it works10:54
abacaoI found that the first implementation of 16.04 was quite bad when trying to use in a AD10:55
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PeanutHi - is there a simple way to configure Ubuntu to automatically share a network (provide routing and NAT) to a device that's connected with zeroconf?10:59
Hensterhi @Peanut what are you trying to do?11:02
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PeanutHenster: I've got a Rasberry Pi zero, set up with g_ether USB Gadget. It runs dhcpcd so takes an rfc3927 address. When I run avahi-autoipd on my desktop on the USB network interface, it becomes 'pi0.local'. I now the traditional way to set up network and the like, but am looking for a more modern, user friendly setup.11:04
PeanutHester: in particular, I want to be able to provide full internet connectivity (DNS, NAT) to the pi0.11:04
ndkmorning folks11:05
ppfPeanut: why not just bridge it?11:06
wekesahello11:06
Peanutppf: neats at least NAT, not bridging, because the IP address is in the IPv4LL address range.11:07
ppfyes, my suggestion is just bridge it into your desktop's network11:09
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ppfsaves you 6 hours of setup11:09
ppfif you seriously don't want to do that, then you neet to setup your NAT and dns11:12
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Peanutppf: I know how to setup NAT and DNS and the like, already did. I'm trying to see if all of that can be made much simpler for ephemeral interfaces such as usb network interfaces through zeroconf/avahi.11:13
naliando52Hj people11:15
naliando52Hi*11:15
ppfPeanut: don't know of any. there's certainly a bunch of firewall gui tools available11:15
ppfno idea if any one of those is any good11:16
OlofLIs there an app to open and edit visio 2013 files?11:20
easyOnMeI keyed in a terminal command like this: uname -a11:20
easyOnMeand it gave me like this11:20
easyOnMe4.4.0-63-generic #84-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 1 17:23:56 UTC 2017 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux11:20
Hensterim on LTE( cellphone internet ) im also planning to build a pfsense router on a old pc and have and use my LTE as a WAN over usb,,11:20
easyOnMehow do I know whether my laptop is 32-bit or 64-bit11:20
Henster@Peanut sorry11:20
PeanuteasyOnMe: look at /proc/cpuinfo, then look up the CPU (likely Intel) on their website to see if the CPU supports 64bits mode.11:21
Henster@easyOnMe did you google your laptop model number and see what chip is uses?11:21
benergyHey guys, does anyone know the right property in cinnamon.css to tweak the width of the panel when its on the left hand side of the screen?11:21
easyOnMeok I see11:21
PeanuteasyOnMe: You are currently running a 32bit OS on your laptop, otherwse it would say x86_64 instead of the i68611:22
easyOnMeI see11:22
easyOnMeok that it explains it11:23
easyOnMeok thanks11:23
k1leasyOnMe: lscpu can tell you11:24
PeanutAh yes, lscpu is nice, it shows "CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit" on my machine.11:25
easyOnMek1l: Architecture:          i68611:26
easyOnMeCPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit11:26
easyOnMeByte Order:            Little Endian11:26
easyOnMeso how do I know whether it is 32 or 64 bit11:26
easyOnMek1l11:26
k1lits 64bit. but you installed 32bit OS11:26
easyOnMewhat this is crap11:27
easyOnMehow can I change my os into 64 bit11:28
easyOnMeis there a way11:28
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easyOnMewithout having to reinstall11:28
k1lyou cant11:28
easyOnMeoh man11:28
easyOnMeI should have been more careful next time11:28
abacaoeasyOnMe: don't worry, 32b versions will stop to exists11:29
k1leasyOnMe: "head /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"11:29
alkisgabacao: not for 7+ more years, will they? :)11:30
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easyOnMek1l: http://termbin.com/srvn11:30
k1lchrome and archlinux started already. ubuntu is linking to 64bit installs as standard.11:31
Guest33038I'm on ubuntu 16.10 on a dell inspiron 15. By closing the lid, the system crashes. Any hint?11:31
easyOnMek1l: is there anything I can do to upgrade11:31
k1leasyOnMe: yes, that was a 32bit iso you used.11:31
ppfeasyOnMe: better just reainstall11:31
easyOnMeppf: don't say that I am in the middle of a web dev11:31
easyOnMeproject11:31
easyOnMethis is really crap11:31
lotuspsychje!language | easyOnMe11:31
ubottueasyOnMe: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList11:31
easyOnMeI am developing on a version that is not based on production environment11:32
easyOnMethanks guys11:32
easyOnMemy goodness11:32
easyOnMenobody told me11:32
easyOnMewhat a painful learning experience this is11:32
lotuspsychjeGuest33038: anything usefull in your dmesg/syslog?11:32
easyOnMek1l: last question11:32
easyOnMethere is no terminal command to upgrade my linux to 64 bit from 32 bit11:33
Guest33038lotuspsychje, how I can see the logs?11:33
ppfeasyOnMe: you should be able to just reinstall on top of your current os11:33
easyOnMesomething similar to sudo apt full-upgrade11:33
k1leasyOnMe: no. reinstall11:33
lotuspsychje!dmesg | Guest3303811:33
ubottuGuest33038: dmesg is a console command which outputs the kernel ring buffer - an important log for diagnosing problems in  Linux. Often when something errors with hardware it will result in additional lines reported which can be seen by running dmesg in a console.11:33
ppfyou need to backup your things of course11:33
lotuspsychjeGuest33038: or manually browse to /var/log/syslog or dmesg11:33
Guest33038lotuspsychje, I'm not able to say if anything on dmesg is useful11:35
Guest33038lotuspsychje, [   19.516000] usb 1-1.2.1: device descriptor read/64, error -11011:35
lotuspsychjeGuest33038: check your logs, at the time that your machine is crashing11:36
lotuspsychje!paste | Guest33038 use this for larger logs11:36
ubottuGuest33038 use this for larger logs: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:36
Guest33038lotuspsychje, how can I see the logs if the machine crashes?11:36
Guest72527Hello. Does anyone here know if Canonical has a release schedule / policy for when security updates are published? I can't find any information on this when googling for it.11:36
lotuspsychjeGuest33038: reboot and check the logs?11:37
k1lGuest72527: when they are known. look at ubuntu.com/usn11:37
Guest72527We patch our data center on tuesdays, and twice now we have seen new kernels being released only hours after finishing our patching.11:38
Guest72527kll: I know where the releases are announced. What I am trying to figure out is if there is a system to -when- they are published.11:38
Guest33038lotuspsychje, incredible, it doesn't crash anymore, now It simply logs out, which I don't want11:38
k1lGuest72527: that depends on the security issue. usually new kernels come in 2-3 week rhythm. but heavy issues get updateas asap after testing11:40
Guest72527k1l: Ok, so there is no schedule behind this? No policy saying 'release tuesdays, 24:00 gmt+4 unless critical, then release asap.'11:42
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lotuspsychjeGuest72527: k1l just said it depends on the security issue11:43
easyOnMeI am currently looking at the ubuntu website11:44
k1lGuest72527: i am not aware of a schedule. maybe the #ubuntu-hardened channel can give a more specific answer11:44
easyOnMeI want to download teh 16.04 LTS11:44
Guest72527Ok, thanks.11:44
easyOnMebut I do not see the 64 bit option around here11:45
Guest72527Have a good one.11:45
k1leasyOnMe: its called amd6411:45
easyOnMewhich one is better 16.04LTS or 16.10LTS11:46
k1leasyOnMe: 16.10 is no lts11:47
easyOnMeoh ok so just use 16.04 then since its on lts11:47
easyOnMek1l: but there is no amd64 choice around here11:48
lotuspsychje!download | easyOnMe11:48
ubottueasyOnMe: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Yakkety, and help keeping the servers' load low!11:48
easyOnMeit only show ubuntu server 16.04.2LTS and ubuntu server 16.1011:48
k1lif you use 16.10 you need to upgrade to 17.04 from april to july and upgrade to 17.10 6 minths after that and then to 18.04 after that....11:48
easyOnMeI am in this website:https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server11:49
k1leasyOnMe: so yes, install 16.04.211:49
k1leasyOnMe: do you want a server or desktop?11:49
easyOnMeserver11:50
easyOnMemeans choose 16.1011:50
easyOnMebut it has no long term support11:50
easyOnMeso better us 16.04 right11:50
easyOnMeanyway 16.04 desktop can be used as server for web dev also right so long as you install the lampp stack on it11:50
gebruikerhmm, i would not use ubuntu for servers11:50
k1leasyOnMe: i explained that already, look above11:51
mozart92Hey peeps :D Do you think is a good idea pairing an intel celeron 1840 with a geforce 710? Or the integrated cpu is sufficient (maybe even better) ?11:51
k1lgebruiker: dont do that in here11:51
lotuspsychjemozart92: perhaps ask in ##hardware11:51
mozart92Ok ty11:51
easyOnMeok11:52
easyOnMethanks11:52
k1leasyOnMe: and you should not isntall that lamp package from the website, but use the build in ubuntu pacakges.11:52
gebruikerk1l: i am not doing anything that goes against eh IRC guidelines..11:52
lotuspsychjegebruiker: this channel is not for opinions11:52
lotuspsychjegebruiker: feel free to discuss this in #ubuntu-discuss11:53
gebruikerlotuspsychje: you must be joking, i only see opinions here11:53
easyOnMek1l: sometimes built-in ubuntu packages sucks11:53
k1leasyOnMe: the lamp package is a security nightmare.11:54
lotuspsychjegebruiker: there's a difference between supporting ubuntu questions and personal opinions, i hope you understand this?11:54
easyOnMek1l: i am currently downloading this ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop.iso about 10 mins to go11:54
easyOnMeI am really not sure whether this one is 64 bit11:54
easyOnMeis there a way for me to check it11:55
easyOnMek1l:oh really11:55
k1leasyOnMe: where did you get that iso? because the original naming includes the architecture.11:55
gebruikerlotuspsychje: i am not working for ubuntu, I am trying to advise people the best way I can. I do not belong to the religion ubuntu11:55
easyOnMehang on it is still downloading though11:56
ndkUsually the architecture is appended to the end of the filename easyOnMe11:56
easyOnMeso I can not really confirmed yet11:56
ndkDo you have the URL where you found the download link?11:56
easyOnMebut I got it from this website: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server11:56
lotuspsychjegebruiker: you have joined the ubuntu support channel, be wise and dont advise against using ubuntu-server then11:56
ndkAh, that's the server edition easyOnMe11:56
easyOnMeI just clicked the one with the ubuntu server 16.04.2 LTS11:56
k1leasyOnMe: read the usage section, 2nd sentence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XAMPP#Usage11:57
ndkIt is 64-Bit only easyOnMe11:57
easyOnMendk:oh I see11:57
easyOnMeso I just have to install it immediately then11:57
k1leasyOnMe: you said you want server, and loading a desktop iso?11:57
gebruikerlotuspsychje: i am not an advocate against ubuntu I am just stating something more prone to his needs11:57
easyOnMek1l: hang on11:58
k1leasyOnMe: load that iso. then we will check the md5sum to make sure what iso that is11:58
easyOnMeonce I am done with the donwloading I will tell you the exact name of the file I completed downloading11:58
ndkScratch that easyOnMe, there are 32-Bit versions i apologise.11:58
easyOnMendk: there see11:58
easyOnMeit was just good to ask then11:58
easyOnMek1l: ok so here is the complete filename after I completed the download: ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-amd6412:05
easyOnMeso is this a go12:05
easyOnMeor do we need make further checks just to make sure it is 64-bit12:05
lotuspsychjeeasyOnMe: amd64 is the 64bit12:05
Apachezdo there exist some gui based gtk debugger where I can just click on an object and the debugger will let me know which GTK property this is (and which settings are set etc)?12:06
k1leasyOnMe: so you want to isntall a desktop now? because you make confusing statements12:07
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lotuspsychjeApachez: perhaps look into apt-cache search debugger? choose what kind of debugger you need exactly?12:08
easyOnMek1l: ok one last question though12:08
easyOnMeif I install desktop this is what I am currently using right now right to do my web dev because it has all the gui12:08
Apachezlotuspsychje: I failed hence why I ask in this ircchannel :)12:08
easyOnMeif I install the server it has no gui right12:09
k1leasyOnMe: yes, the server has no gui. they both share the same packages and base system.12:09
d4rth__ help12:10
easyOnMeoh ok12:10
easyOnMethen I will install the desktop then12:10
lotuspsychje!ask | d4rth__12:10
ubottud4rth__: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:10
easyOnMeso do you want us to go through the process of the mdsum check12:10
d4rth__I'm sorry I meant to run "/msg NickServ help"12:10
easyOnMeI have the downloaded file in the usb stick though12:10
easyOnMeI can connect it here in this ubuntu laptop I am using right now12:11
lotuspsychjeApachez: what kind of objects will you be debugging?12:11
k1leasyOnMe: the md5sum check will make sure there are no issues while download12:13
k1l!md5sum | easyOnMe12:13
ubottueasyOnMe: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM12:13
easyOnMek1l: ok12:18
easyOnMewill do now12:18
easyOnMewhat's the terminal command to go the usb stick12:20
easyOnMeI tried using the mythumdrive12:20
k1lcd /path/where/its/mounted12:21
easyOnMecd mythumbdrive it did not work12:21
easyOnMeok I got it now12:21
k1lif its automounted by the desktop then most probably  /media/USER/... where user is your user name12:21
easyOnMeand I am going to do the checksum now12:21
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easyOnMek1l: I got this back: 1400884cec8e40a1a876b2678f81494b  ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso12:24
k1leasyOnMe: that is correct for the 64bit desktop iso12:25
easyOnMeam I good to go12:25
BluesKajHi folks12:25
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easyOnMek1l: thanks k1l12:27
easyOnMedoing the rufus on usb stick now12:28
xgrephow can i check the particular package if its instlaled or not in ubuntu12:29
xgrepand also how can i check if that particular service is running or not in ubuntu12:29
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k1lxgrep: apt policy packagename12:30
xgrephow to solve this Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:30
v2zzhi! I try to mkfifo myPipe and then  I echo "IPC_example_between_two_shells">myPipe bash expects somethng else. what else do I need to put there?12:31
w9qbjxgrep, Q2 - ps -ef | grep processname12:31
EriC^^xgrep: try dpkg -l | grep dpkg12:31
EriC^^xgrep: if nothing is using it then sudo rm the lock file12:31
v2zzxgrep let that another process finish it's job, it will release lock then12:31
k1lxgrep: that means another update-manager of software center is running12:31
EriC^^v2zz: #bash might help better12:32
xgrepEriC^^: dpkg -l | grep apache212:34
EriC^^xgrep: ?12:35
xgrepit doesnt return me anything however if i do ps -ef | grep apache12:35
xgrepi see a result12:35
xgrepv2zz: its nt finishing12:35
xgrepv2zz: how can we break the lock12:35
EriC^^xgrep: my bad, i meant ps aux | grep dpkg12:36
k1lxgrep: please give more details, what do you do, what ubuntu is it? what happend?12:36
k1lxgrep: killing the process or removing the lock is a good way to make a mess to your system. so dont just kill that12:37
xgrepk1l: i wanted to install something12:37
xgrepso it says unable to lock something12:37
k1lxgrep: details matter12:37
xgrepubuntu 1612:37
xgrepEriC^^: what u want me to do with this command ps aux | grep dpkg12:38
EriC^^xgrep: check if any process is using dpkg in any way12:38
k1lxgrep: which what program did you do that? what happend?12:38
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rorroI just noticed a weird "80 MB volume" icon on my system tray. Anyone know what it is? http://imgur.com/KPVkOkS12:50
rorroOr possibly help me identify it.12:51
k1lrorro: look at "sudoe parted -l"12:51
k1l*sudo not sudoe12:51
EriC^^rorro: it's probably a system reserve space for windows, try k1l 's command above12:51
EriC^^sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999      it'll give you a link paste it here12:51
rorroThere doesn't seem to exist an 80MB partition12:53
rorrohttp://imgur.com/Lmq2qjq12:53
rorroEriC^^, http://termbin.com/6vhg12:54
EriC^^rorro: does "lsblk" show anything?12:54
rorroEriC^^, http://termbin.com/k7ns12:55
EriC^^rorro: it must be one of those loop devices at the bottom12:56
rorroNow the question is what the loop things are and why all of them are krita and why is krita doing that...12:56
ataldiswhen my gateway goes down, my lan slows down a lot.. ping times in the same lan goes up to 1500ms. Any idea what have I messed up in the configs?12:57
EriC^^rorro: something to do with snap i'd guess12:57
rorroThanks EriC^^ for the help. I can now hopefully search further and get this sorted12:58
EriC^^rorro: no problem12:58
ataldisI have an ubuntu server with dhcp3-server, bind dns server (as cache) and samba server running.12:59
ataldiseverything works just fine, as long as the router (which is the default gateway) doesn't goes down12:59
ppfataldis: are you pinging an IP or a name?13:04
ataldisppf, I tried both, same result13:04
ataldisit was the server I was trying to ping13:05
ppftry ping -n13:05
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ataldisppf, same results, but I'm starting to think I'm dealing with faulty hardware on the router13:18
easyOnMek1l: I am done install now13:23
easyOnMeand I did lscpu and the architecture says: x86_6413:23
easyOnMeit means I got it right for 64-bit installation right13:23
easyOnMe*done installing sorry13:23
k1leasyOnMe: yes.13:24
easyOnMenice :013:24
easyOnMe;)13:24
easyOnMethanks a lot man13:24
easyOnMeyeehaa13:25
easyOnMethanks a lot k1l13:25
easyOnMethanks to the rest too who helped13:25
k1lnp13:26
raubDumb question of the morning: my ubuntu 16.04 desktop has two interfaces, each getting IP using dhcp. Now, since the dchp and dns server are the same box I would expect dns entries being created on both networks, but I am only seeing one. How come?13:32
ikoniawhy would it use 2 interfaces ?13:34
ikoniamore so when those interfaces appear to be on the same network13:34
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PCatineanWhat is the explanations behind fiding a .xls file with locate command but when navigating to that location it does not show up?13:40
PCatineanIt's a samba server13:40
mcphailPCatinean: well, for a start, "locate" isn't live. It uses a database which needs to be refreshed13:41
bekksPCatinean: The fact that locate doesnt update its database in realtime.13:47
PCatineanouch, had no idea13:47
PCatineanIs there any way I can find out what happened to that file?13:47
PCatineanWas it removed, moved somewhere else etc?13:47
bekksPCatinean: If you dont have logs - no.13:47
PCatineanAnd how does one locate real time a file?13:47
PCatineanIn the filesystem13:48
bekksPCatinean: One doesnt, because thats not possible, technically.13:48
EriC^^PCatinean: find looks for stuff in real time13:48
bekksEriC^^: Thats not true.13:48
EriC^^find /path -iname "*something*"13:48
bekksFind doesnt operate in predictable time.13:49
PCatineanhmm13:50
EriC^^PCatinean: locate uses a database that gets updated with updatedb so it might be behind13:51
EriC^^try find13:51
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LJSeinfeldTrying to figure out how to start a VM via systemd and running into trouble… Anyone here care to help?  I’m stumped.14:00
brainwashLJSeinfeld: I suggest that you describe what you have tried so far and which issues you have encountered. Maybe even ask in #systemd if the focus of your question is systemd.14:04
LJSeinfeldThanks — I’m pastebinning stuff now...14:04
anddamhow do you see the apostrophe in LJSeinfeld sentence?14:06
anddammy client is showing a question mark (it's known to have Unicode issue)14:07
kv102tnot quite ubuntu, but can anyone help with syslog server. all setup but not collecting data on ubuntu?14:07
brainwashanddam: which irc client is that? do other applications show the ’ properly?14:09
LJSeinfeldI’ve created a basic systemd unit (I think that’s what it’s called) to start a virtualbox VM  and placed it in /etc/systemd/syste/   (see content here:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/24046623/)   when I tell systemctl to enable it, no error listed.  When I try to start it I get Failed to add /run/systemd/ask-password to directory watch: No such file or directory , Failed to start zoidberg.service: Unknown unit: zoidberg.service,14:10
LJSeinfeldSee system logs and 'systemctl status zoidberg.service' for details.14:10
anddambrainwash: oh wow, so that's like a typographic apostrophe?14:10
anddambrainwash: you typed it as well14:10
bekksLJSeinfeld: Why dont you just use the virtualbox autostart facility as documented in the virtualbox documentation?14:10
bekksLJSeinfeld: Thats far more easy than your current approach.14:11
LJSeinfeldnever even heard of it…14:11
anddambrainwash: it's not the IRC client per se, I have some issues with this box (a remote VM). It's running 16.04 and I'm using weechat on it via ssh14:11
bekksNever looked at the docs, then.14:11
LJSeinfeldlol, of course not…. :)14:11
anddambrainwash: played with locale a bit but couldn't quite figure what was wrong14:11
brainwashanddam: and outside of weechat?14:12
anddambrainwash: I've been suggested to use    curl -s https://www.w3.org/2001/06/utf-8-test/UTF-8-demo.html | tail -n+8 | head -n-3   to check14:13
LJSeinfeldsearching / reading now.  bekks, do you know if it will respawn the VM if there is trouble?14:13
bekksDefine trouble. :)14:13
brainwashanddam: wow. nice one14:13
anddamit shows an almost all-correct output, except a couple lines14:14
anddambrainwash: it shows the math symbols, Cyrillic, Greek, a couple things I don't know, braille14:14
anddambrainwash: but then I cannot even compose a char like ellipsis, I mean in terminal14:15
anddam???14:15
anddamthe terminal will just disply nothing, weechat a question mark14:15
anddamor three in case of ellipsis14:15
brainwash:(14:16
brainwashsadly, no clue how to fix that14:16
LJSeinfeldlike if the VM crashes or virtualbox quits unceremoniously14:16
bekksLJSeinfeld: Then you have to restart your vms, after fixing the condition leading to the error. You can do seven by using phpvirtualbox even.14:17
LJSeinfelda search for virtualbox autostart produces a lot of chaff…14:17
gedasHello. Is there people who uses Lotus Notes??14:18
bekksgedas: I bet there are. Did I just win $100 for taking part in that poll?14:18
bekksgedas: If not, please just ask your actual question.14:18
LJSeinfeldbekks - looking at the Virtualbox gui, not seeing any mention of autostart in there… can you point me in the right direction?14:19
bekksLJSeinfeld: this works: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#autostart-linux14:20
gedasbekks, not realy. I have notes 5.8.3 server and upgraded traveler to 8.5.3 Update 214:20
bekksLJSeinfeld: Look at the DOCS, not the GUI. :P14:20
LJSeinfeldI’m in there too…14:20
gedasand whene openning link server.my/servlet/traveler it retrusn 404 error: Reason: File not found or unable to read file14:21
bekksLJSeinfeld: So you found chapter 9.24.114:21
bekksgedas: And you are running them on Ubuntu?14:21
gedasbekks, yes, 16.0414:21
LJSeinfeldlol… I’m reading …14:21
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bekksgedas: So which part are you running on Ubuntu? The server or the client?14:22
gedasbekks, server. With older version worked and sync to phones was great. After upgrade all stuck14:23
bekksgedas: And did you check that file in question exists?14:23
gedasbekks, I don't know what to check. Guide me14:24
LJSeinfeldOK, so I read 9.21.1 …. lol, I may be more confused here than before14:24
bekksgedas: I have no clue about Notes. Maybe you'd better ask in a Lotus Notes dedicated channel.14:24
gedasbekks, I can't find one14:25
bekksLJSeinfeld: Maybe you should read 9.24.1 instead, as I'm telling you for the third time now.14:25
LJSeinfeldtypo14:25
LJSeinfeldrelax…I meant 9.24.114:25
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bekksLJSeinfeld: A 10s search revealed this guide, too: http://www.vionblog.com/virtualbox-4-3-autostart-debian-wheezy/14:26
yeevehey chat, seems theres a bug when accessing SFTP files via the filemanager (gvfs?) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1152883 but it seems the FileZilla handles the ownership stuff fine. Anyone had anything similar? Any known work arounds?14:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1152883 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "gvfsd-sftp do not preserve file ownership on file modification operation" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:29
Dynetrekk1any way I can get the screensaver to NOT lock the screen until, say, 1 minute has passed?14:29
Dynetrekk1it's annoying that I get no warning before screen lock14:30
Maragart@search hitchens14:42
DarkPsydeLordkittens!14:46
freezerhi14:51
freezerWhats a good Macro-Tool for Linux desktop, to automate Windows clicks, text entry etc14:52
freezer*window clicks14:52
ojatkohello everyone, I am on a live cd and I see strange usernames under /media folder, like guest-kl5ypm, guest-0smghl14:58
ojatkowhy do I see these there?14:58
ericsysminhow do i get into a more verbose prompt and status on ubuntu installation?15:00
ericsysminif I am doing a network install and it fails, i actually want to see why it's failing15:00
ericsysminnot that it failed, but why it failed15:00
k_szeI have an Asus H170M-Plus motherboard, is there a way to get lm-sensors to report the chassis fan speed?15:01
ericsysminIs there like a F4 option, or something to get terminal, as "Installation step failed" is probably the most descriptive error I've ever seen in my life.15:01
k_szeI have two chassis fans attached. Right now `sensors` only shows the CPU fan speed.15:01
geniiericsysmin: Check the tftpd/PXE/webserver logs on the boot server side15:02
ericsysminreally, nothing on the client? :( Damnnnn, really15:03
MaxFrameshello15:06
MaxFramesam I supposed to be able to get integration between an hyperv host and an ubuntu guest? namely clipboard sharing?15:07
MaxFramesis there any package I need to install on the guest to make it work?15:07
ScrivenerI can't figure out how to get any GTK+ theme in Ubuntu to actually change the top bar of windows. Everything else seems to be modified by them, but the top bar of windows is always the default Unity bar. It should not be. I am on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Any ideas as to what to look for?15:11
ojatkohello everyone, I am on a live cd and I see strange usernames under /media folder, like guest-kl5ypm, guest-0smghl15:11
ojatkowhy do I see these there?15:11
ScrivenerFor example, if I use Tweak Tool (gnome tweak tool) to swap to other GTK+ themes, the content of windows appears to change, but the titlebar still doesn't, just the default.15:11
andyworkScrivener: have you tried using unity-tweak-tool?15:12
Scrivenerojatko, I can't be sure, but that sounds to be like other media sources (local hard drives, SD cards, thumb drives, etc) are being mounted in the OS you're running live, prepended with the name of the user you're running as (the "guest" user)15:12
Scrivenerandywork, I'll give it a go. I believe I tried that too, since I do have both15:13
Scrivenerandywork, it's already set there, I tried unsetting it and resetting it (in this case, to the Arc Darker theme)15:13
ScrivenerNo luck. No matter what window decoration/theme I choose, the titlebar never changes15:14
ojatkoScrivener, but I haven't mounted other drives there. and they are only visible in gksudo mode15:14
Scrivenerojatko, some things can be manually mounted. When I have an SD card inserted, it automatically gets mounted under /media for me.15:15
Scrivenersome things can be automatically mounted*, I mean15:15
ToxicTIgerHello guys15:16
emachinesxdxdx15:17
ojatkoScrivener, yes, usb or sd type of devices do that, but the only other systems in my case are the other OSes on the disk. I never saw an OS being mounted by itself15:17
emachinesquieb esta15:18
ojatkojust wondering if unmounted OSes are shown in gksudo mode..that would explain it15:18
Scrivenerojatko, I couldn't really say15:18
emachineswhat15:19
ojatkoScrivener, me neither :) thank you for your help15:19
emachinesenglish jaja15:20
emachineshablen15:22
ToxicTIgerI would like to have some help for a problems, I have installed Ubuntu mate 16.04.2 LTS installation its well past. But I wanted to boot on my usb key, I have more access to bios, I made F2, F12, DEL. Its not walking, I have a blue screen 2 seconds and its boot safe the ubuntu office. I made a clear CMOS 30 minutes. It does not work.15:23
emachines_j15:24
emachineshola15:24
ToxicTIgerhello15:25
weilzim new here15:25
emachinesthanks15:25
emachines_hola15:25
emachinesjaja15:26
Southern_Gentlem!es | emachines15:27
ubottuemachines: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:27
weilzive a question to throw15:30
xplora1aToxicTIger, what sort of machine, laptop, desktop, is it BIOS or UFEI15:31
ToxicTIgerxplora1a15:35
ToxicTIgerDesktop15:35
ToxicTIgerUFEI15:35
xplora1ahow did you create the USB stick? does it work on other machines?15:36
ToxicTIgerI use Gnome disk and yes my USB key boot very well on my other pc15:37
xplora1aUFEI so you will need to turn off secure boot, sometimes this is labelled legacy mode.15:38
ToxicTIgerHow do I do if I do not have access to bios?15:38
xplora1athis will be in the BOIS settings15:38
xplora1ais the BIOS settings pages locked, ie corporate machine?15:39
ToxicTIgerI can not get into the bios15:40
xplora1aWhy? because you dont know how? or because it is locked?15:41
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ToxicTIgerWhen I start my pc there is a blue screen and it arrives on the desktop mate15:42
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xplora1aToxicTIger, your problem is to get into the BIOS settings, if you can't do that and secure boot is turned on you will not be able to boot anything other that the Windows that came with the machine.15:44
rt_ctxHi, I have an problem with Evolution mail client. I want to install evolution-activesync (https://github.com/GNOME/evolution-activesync/blob/master/INSTALL) but I can't find  the directory containing the package's source code.15:45
ToxicTIgerIt is me who has to mount my pc15:45
elias_aToxicTIger: Well, mount your PC then. :P15:46
weilzgot a question gus15:49
weilzguys*15:49
xplora1art_ctx, have you followed all of this https://github.com/GNOME/evolution-activesync/blob/master/INSTALL15:51
rt_ctxYes exactly15:51
w9qbj weilz   Just ask the Q15:51
rt_ctxxplora1a : But I didn't find where I must use "./configure". A point 1.15:52
weilzok sorry lol15:52
xplora1aand it complied with no errors?15:52
weilzok im trying to pipe and exec a file in terminal15:52
rt_ctxxplora1a : Yes the mail client compiled with no error15:52
rt_ctxxplora1a : It's ok. I found my mistake. thank you ^^15:55
weilzusing xargs15:55
xplora1aI presume you have cloned the repository git clone git@github.com:GNOME/evolution-activesync.git15:55
weilzbut it gives a permission denied15:55
weilzheres the code15:56
ojatkohello again, clam antivirus doesnt work, I click on GUI items, but no response. I'd installed it from synaptic with related packages..could that have caused a conflict? else how can I try it from the command line? I typed clamav or clam, but didnt work15:56
weilzls |grep manager-linux-x64.run | xargs ./15:56
hheeguys, is it real to increase number of recently userd application in ubuntu unity dash?15:57
hheeused* sorry for type15:58
KillCMOSHi there people!16:00
transhuman_anyone able to pastebin php7.conf and php7.load from /etc/apache2/mods-available/ ? from the latest ubuntu. I am trying to adapt a similar format on my alpine-linux setup . Thanks in advance16:01
xplora1aweilz, so that is trying to execute all the files that match that name. what directory are you running that in. try without the | xargs and see what files it is running, have a look at those files...16:01
KillCMOSI need a link to any page that talk about how to install a usb modem16:01
KillCMOSsomething about how to install mgetty to a phone line16:01
KillCMOSi'm looking for but i can not find nothing about...16:02
KillCMOSkeep searching16:02
KillCMOSthank!16:02
xplora1aKillCMOS, are you runniong networkManager it will recognise most USB Modems.16:02
weilzxplora1a, well the only file in that list is  manager-linux-x64.run16:02
weilzif i run sudo ./manager-linux-x64.run ,it works16:03
weilzi just want to automate the process of going to the directory with a one-liner code16:03
KillCMOSxplorala, yes, but it doesnt can find it16:04
xplora1aKillCMOS, do lsusb, then plug it in and do lsusb, can you see the modem in the list16:05
KillCMOSwhen I use lsusb it show the modem16:05
KillCMOSyes16:05
KillCMOSrigth16:05
KillCMOSi saw it with lsusb16:05
xplora1apaste in the modem line from lsusb16:05
KillCMOSBus 002 Device 004: ID 047e:2892 Agere Systems, Inc. (Lucent) Systems Soft Modem16:05
KillCMOSit is show16:05
KillCMOSbut i try to use kppp or similars, but without luck16:06
KillCMOSxplorala, i try to check the modem making the consult using kppp, you know, but it doenst find the device16:08
brymafternoon all16:09
RxMcDonaldn>window.innerWidth16:10
darknishafternoon16:10
RxMcDonaldn> window.innerWidth16:10
khyrthysurmatebonjour16:10
RxMcDonaldn> window.Array.isArray()16:10
rcmainakhey, one of my friend is having laptop / wi-fi issue. Can anyone help me solve the problem for her? since she can't get on IRC...16:10
khyrthysurmatehello !16:11
khyrthysurmatethere is a people?16:12
Southern_Gentlemnope we are all bots16:12
brymspeak for yourself. i moonlight as a people sometimes16:13
weilzanyone?16:14
brymeveryone?16:14
weilzany geeky command line pro here?16:15
naccweilz: not really the topic of the channel16:15
transhuman_weilz what are you looking for16:15
naccweilz: but it also feels like you basically have the solution, right?16:15
MaxFrameshello16:16
weilznacc, where to look ?16:16
nacc!alis | weilz: probably a bash channel or so16:16
MaxFrameshow can I copy and paste text from hyper-v host to ubuntu guest?16:16
ubottuweilz: probably a bash channel or so: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"16:16
weilznacc, i have a normal way to do it16:16
naccweilz: but honestly, I think you're just obviously missing sudo16:16
transhuman_weilz is this with bash?16:16
naccweilz: and i have no clear idea why you need this :) if it's just to run a command16:16
weilztraushman, yes16:16
transhuman_try #bash16:17
MaxFramesI have checked that linux integration services are installed in ubuntu 16.04 to integrate ubuntu guest in hyperv host but clipboard sharing does not work16:17
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MaxFrameswhat do I have to do in ubuntu to make it work16:17
Southern_GentlemMaxFrames, you dont16:17
weilztranshuman_, i mea no16:17
weilztranshuman_, i meant NO, its a .run file16:17
OerHeksMaxFrames,  ask the #hyperv guys??16:17
MaxFramesOerHeks: they have no idea, say it's a problem for linux/ubuntu channels16:18
transhuman_weilz open it up  what does the first line say16:18
OerHeksMaxFrames, unlikely, also not an ubuntu issue either.16:18
MaxFramesOerHeks: that's what I was told, I dunno16:19
weilztranshuman_, well the file shows some gibberish coloured stuffs,16:19
MaxFramesSouthern_Gentlem: can you elaborate? I've found some tutorials on how to configure ubuntu 16.04 for hyperv integration (didn't work though)16:19
transhuman_oh its not source16:19
skinuxIf RAM and SWAP are both being used efficiently, should there be noticable lag with the use of SWAP?16:19
naccweilz: your question is how to do it with xargs, basically. You probably just need to | xargs sudo ./16:19
naccweilz: as you ran it with sudo, not as your regular user16:20
skinuxAnd cached memory is "given back" whenever a software needs it right?16:20
naccweilz: and at this point, it's clearly not a support issue, it's a how do i use xargs issue16:20
OerHeksMaxFrames, they should point you to clipboard https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/virtual_pc_guy/2008/01/15/understanding-the-clipboard-menu-under-hyper-v/16:20
transhuman_you could create a bash file change to the required directory and then execute that file from the next line in the small script you write (probably with sudo permissions)16:20
weilznacc, pits more or less how to do i use a xargs issue16:20
Southern_Gentlemskinux, and what speed is your harddrive16:21
naccweilz: and even more generally, you clearly showed that you needed sudo to run the command earlier, so why aren't you using sudo in your xargs version?16:21
MaxFramesOerHeks: I know how the feature works in hyper-v, but if I use it on the ubuntu guest it does not paste anything16:21
weilznacc, i must have omitted that.. using16:22
weilzls |grep manager-linux-x64.run | sudo xargs ./ gives me a xargs :./ permission denied16:22
naccweilz: is that the verbatim output?16:22
weilztranshuman_, i guess thats the only way i have to do it16:23
MaxFramesSouthern_Gentlem: can you please check out this? https://oitibs.com/hyper-v-lis-on-ubuntu-16/16:23
transhuman_you might be able to do it with xargs16:23
MaxFramesI've tried to do what is written there, but there was no change... still no clipboard sharing16:23
weilznacc, yes the output is xargs: ./ permission denied16:23
transhuman_try doing this first su root then execute the xargs command16:23
naccweilz: well that's the issue, presumably `ls | grep manager-linux-x64.run` returned nothing16:24
transhuman_not that thats a good way of doing it16:24
naccweilz: are you in a directory containing 'manager-linux-x64.run'? hint: use a pastebin for all of this, and i'd stop asking each question individually16:25
weilznacc, ls |grep manager-linux-x64.run returned this16:25
MaxFramesmy questions are: 1) is that procedure correct/useful to obtain the correct integration of the ubuntu guest? 2) clipboard sharing is just not provided/impossible (I've found forum posts saying that it worked?) 3) how does one exchange text between host and guest?16:25
raubTrying to install the pepperflashplugin on an ubuntu 16.04 box: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24047267/16:25
weilzmanager-linux-x64.run16:25
raubIt seems to have grabbed package but where is it unpacking it16:26
weilztranshuman_, if i ran the command on a .sh file like this16:26
transhuman_so whats the output of ls -al in that directory ?16:26
naccweilz: *please* use a pastebin.16:27
naccweilz: showing each command, it's output, etc.16:27
brymMaxFrames, you could try ssh'ing into ubuntu, pasting the text into a new file, and using that file of text from within vnc et al from there.16:27
pavlosweilz, try, ls -al manager-linux-x64.run (should be one line)16:27
weilznacc,rightaway16:27
MaxFramesbrym: I see... :( involved16:27
weilzpavlos,transhuman, -rwx------ 1 root root 3361003 Jun 10  2013 manager-linux-x64.run16:28
brymMaxFrames, a quick google shows that it's been asked on Reddit and StackExchange for at least a year.16:28
transhuman_type who am i weilz16:29
transhuman_sorry whoami16:29
dannyLopezWhat is the "name" of the keys function? I mean, F1=="Meta2-P"16:29
weilzwhoami gives root16:29
brymMaxFrames, one redittor suggests using AutoHotKey (.com) as a workaround16:30
transhuman_my quess is your missing a switch with xargs16:30
compdocMaxFrames, I use x2go server and client, and clipboard works great. but you cant use the standard ubuntu desktop. You have to use a 2d desktop like Mate16:30
transhuman_show me the xargs command again...cant find it in scrollback lines16:31
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Ghostdoxhello16:32
weilzhttp://pastebin.com/BHfTrdmG16:32
thesebis /etc/init.d part of systemd ?16:32
drabhi, can anybody recommend a good guide, best if in video format, to give to someone new to linux and ubuntu?16:33
weilzls |grep manager-linux-x64.run | sudo xargs ./16:33
xfceoneI can`t open nginx virtualhost in browser why?16:33
drabsomething that can help them not just get started with ubuntu, but also understand a bit what's going on "under the hood"16:34
transhuman_what directory are you executing the ls -al command in? it doesnt show in that output16:34
weilznacc, how to use msg alis again?16:35
transhuman_how about trying ls | grep manager-linux.x64.run | xargs /opt/lammp/16:35
nacc!alis | weilz16:35
ubottuweilz: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"16:35
kur1jHave two video cards, one is the main display the other I want to passthrough to a VM. Is it possible to blacklist a dkms nvidia driver and prevent it loading for a specific video card? I added the nvidia_378 to the /etc/modules/blacklist and updated initramfs but the nvidia driver keeps grabbing the card on boot16:37
weilztranshuman_, that shows xargs: /opt/lammp/: No such file or directory16:37
lorddoskiashow do i increase my coredump files limit. currently it's 0 and i like to set it to unlimited. ulimit -c unlimited says operation not permitted, and sudo ulimit -c unlimited says command not found since this is a shell built-in. Also I have changed my coredump pattern to not use apport16:37
naccweilz: i feel like this is why most people use `find` for piping to xargs16:38
pavlosweilz, the dir is /opt/lampp (not lammp, 2 p's16:38
naccweilz: but even so, xargs is the wrong choice here, afaict, as if you had two matching files via grep, xargs will not do the rigth thing without at least a flag16:39
weilztranshuman_, still shows xargs: /opt/lampp/: Permission denied16:40
transhuman_I would try #bash they will know the right syntax for xargs16:40
weilz!alis16:40
ubottuAlis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"16:40
transhuman_as I said my guess is your missing a switch with xargs16:41
weilzok transhuman, nacc..thanks for troubleshootng with me..16:41
weilzbytheway ,ive been typing msg Alis list http16:42
weilznothing happens16:42
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transhuman_good luck weilz hope you find your answer16:43
weilzi hope i do.. thanks a bunch...16:43
weilz!alis | weilz16:44
ubottuweilz, please see my private message16:44
naccweilz: you either use /msg Alis list http, or if already in a PM with alis, use 'list http'16:44
transhuman_how about trying ls | grep manager-linux.x64.run | xargs /opt/lampp/.\16:45
transhuman_anyways I don't know thats all the help I can provide16:46
naccweilz: at this point, i have no idea why it's worth spending time on when you can just type `sudo /opt/lampp/manager-linux.x64.run`16:46
transhuman_anyone able to pastebin php7.conf and php7.load from /etc/apache2/mods-available/ ? from the latest ubuntu. I am trying to adapt a similar format on my alpine-linux setup . Thanks in advance16:47
transhuman_currently on my ubuntu system which is working I have php5.load and php5.conf and dont want to mess it up16:48
pavlosweilz, couldn't you cd /opt/lampp; ./manager-linux-x64.run as described in https://www.apachefriends.org/faq_linux.html16:48
naccpavlos: seems like it, yeah -- there seem to be many ways that are better than xargs in this particular case :)16:49
momkenhello16:50
momkenI am installing skype from Ubuntu partner repo16:50
tmuwaexit16:50
momkenAfter doing "apt-get install skype" it tries to install many foo:i386 packages. Is it normal?16:51
transhuman_momken skype is i386, for a while they had a 64 version16:51
transhuman_it was in beta not sure if its still out there16:52
pavlosmomken, yes, it brings 32bit compat libs16:52
momkenActually more than 100 i386 packages. Is it normal? Won't create any conflict for the amd64 libraries?16:52
MaxFramesanother problem16:53
MaxFramesI have joined a lubuntu 16.04 to an active directory domain16:54
MaxFramesit receives its ip from a debian dhcp server16:54
dannyLopezWhat is the "name" of the keys function? I mean, F1=="Meta2-P"16:54
MaxFramesit fails to automatically update its host record in the active directory dns server16:54
MaxFrameshow do I configure it so that it always updates the host record?16:55
pavlosmomken, can you pastebin, sudo apt-get install --dry-run skype16:55
transhuman_ok so I guess I will have to take a snapshot of my ubuntu install...install php7 and uninstall php5 to find out what these two files look like...16:55
nacctranshuman_: launch a container or VM?16:57
arthurhello16:59
arthurquit help16:59
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MaxFrameshow to update host record FROM ubuntu TO windows dns server? what's the command?17:01
MaxFramesto first see if it updates manually17:01
transhuman_yes for sure nacc, I was just hoping someone would have a quick answer no problem17:01
kcroot_anyone couldt tell me WTF is going on with minimal install and postinstallation of xfce4,17:03
kcroot_because i install xfce4 for minimal, after login in lightdm can't open session17:03
weilz_...17:05
mossiHi17:05
mossiI have a doubt, I have installed ubuntu server 14.04 and I just inserted a hard disk with previous information, how should I do the "mount" to use it as storage?17:05
transhuman_kcroot did it ever work?17:06
pavlosmossi, does dmesg list the inserted drive as /dev/sdX when X=a,b,c,...17:07
KillCMOShello there friends!. there is someone working with ARToolKit to make augmented reality? I have problems with the SDK. Thanks!17:08
transhuman_mossi what file format17:09
transhuman_s/file/filesystem is it ext4? or other17:09
mossi<pablos> yes, /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdb2, /dev/sdb5 and /dev/sdb617:10
kcroot_transhuman_: this is fresh install on msi laptop17:11
transhuman_I know but what format is the drive your trying to mount ?17:11
transhuman_your saying its blank17:11
k1lkcroot_: so lightdm comes up? you login, choose xfce and then what?17:12
transhuman_oops kcroot wrong person17:13
basil1xAnd again with the random lockups.17:14
transhuman_well I can't sit around all day waiting for a response, sorry mossi!17:16
gimpy2938Why can't ubuntu user names have a dot in them?  any way to bypass this dump restriction in the installer?17:23
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ALFAosa17:25
naccgimpy2938: more than likely various things (like for instance shell globbing) will break17:27
naccgimpy2938: so no, don't bypass it17:27
gimpy2938nacc: works fine in every other Linux/Unix I've ever used17:27
gimpy2938it's also POSIX compliant17:27
gimpy2938it would not break globbing at all, why do you think it would?17:27
naccgimpy2938: what does ls ~user.name/ evaluate to if you have users named user.name and user1name installed?17:28
gimpy2938don't give a shit17:28
naccgimpy2938: it was just a guess, don't be rude17:28
gimpy2938why would I glob usernames?17:28
naccgimpy2938: your shell may do that all the time, do you know that it does or doesn't?17:28
OerHeksgimpy2938, you are wrong. it is NOT posix, a dot in username17:28
gimpy2938really, because whle looking up how to get around it I found two sources that show it is ... not sure which version of POSIX17:29
OerHekse.g.. " a dot . may be used for a Ubuntu username, the NAME_REGEX just has to be changed in /etc/adduser.conf"17:29
OerHekshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/405638/what-are-the-disadvantages-of-having-a-dot-in-a-user-name17:29
gimpy2938again, this works in other distros and unix boxen too, not sure by ubuntu needs  to be special17:29
gimpy2938yea, saw that and so far it doesn't work ... installer still won't allow it17:30
pavlosmossi, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 999917:33
wedgie. isn't special in glob. that's regex17:33
brainwashgimpy2938: including debian?17:33
kcroot_k1l: i can't open session of xcfe417:35
kcroot_k1l: did not started17:35
naccwedgie: yes, sorry, mis-described. I meant simply that having . in strings in the shell may lead to odd issues17:35
weblyhi17:36
weblywhat does this plugin mean? : https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-ubuntu-gzopen-fix/17:36
weblygzopen fix? censorship?17:37
webly:O17:37
OerHekswebly, ask in #wordpress ?17:37
weblyOerHeks: it is a wordpress plugin, but my question is related to the ubuntu part of it.17:37
naccwebly: what ubuntu part of it? they seem to be using the string ubuntu in their description, but that's about it17:39
cdiddDoes anybody know if it's possible to force chrome to match url substring? For example for me it matches true_something if I type true_ , but doesn't match anything if I type something.17:39
Ze_Miguelgood morning17:39
Ze_Miguelhow to resolve freezing ubuntu ideapad 100s 11" lby17:40
Ze_Miguel??''17:40
weblynacc: hm, ok17:40
Piciwebly: The link from the Other Notes tab suggests that this is fixed in 14.04.17:41
Ze_Miguelhelp me17:44
JJ_298034I'm trying to install Iridium browser but there's no support in the app downloader. From their website (https://iridiumbrowser.de/downloads/linux.html), is it just copy-paste line by line into terminal and it will add it to the repositories and keep Iridium auto-updated?17:45
naccJJ_298034: yes, but not officially supported, of course17:46
JJ_298034nacc: Great stuff, thanks!17:46
OerHeksJJ_298034, yes, the "wget -qO - https:// ....pub | sudo apt-key add  will add the key to make safe updates possible17:46
JJ_298034OerHeks: Ah, I see. I've added repos before but there were a lot of unknown commands so wanted some of you gurus to check there weren't any funky business. Oh, and if it was separate lines/commands. ^^17:47
JJ_298034New on Ubuntu after a year on Mint. I'm one of those who fell instantly in love with Unity.17:48
OerHeksJJ_298034, just be carefu‎ll with 3rd party repos.17:50
Surendilhi everyone, I know this is not the right place, but.... anyone know how to run qemu vm? I've installed qemu, read howto but I'm not able to find qemu binary, http://paste.debian.net/916244/ these are my installed packages17:51
JJ_298034OerHeks: Good tip. I try to verify repos and doublecheck the legitimacy of PPA's. :)17:51
naccSurendil: you probably would run the kvm binary, fwiw, rather than qemu17:52
naccSurendil: it's just a wrapper, admittedly17:52
naccSurendil: but qemu is invoked genearlly via qemu-system-<arch>17:52
naccSurendil: given that you are on debian, though, if that doesn't work, consult their IRC17:53
Surendilnacc: thanks, I'll check kvm.17:54
Surendilnacc: does kvm support ARM os?17:54
naccSurendil: kvm doesn't support an OS, I'm not sure what you mean17:57
naccSurendil: kvm is a kernel-level technology, for accelerating virtualization. The binary is just a wrapper around qemu using a specific flag, iirc17:57
brunch875I <strongly> dislike how notifications in unity aren't fast enough17:59
brunch875on the other hand I love how unity behaves, and so I jumped back to it from gnome318:00
brunch875has anyone found a solution for this?18:00
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OerHeksbrunch875, not in unity tweak, but there is a ppa with notify tools http://www.webupd8.org/2016/05/customize-notifyosd-notification.html18:03
brunch875OerHeks, thanks for the link18:07
brunch875I'm still not entirely satisfied with how to get them to behave though :/18:07
brunch875best notification system is on ubuntu-touch from my point of view18:07
brunch875we should get more of these18:07
OerHeksthe api is open, so be creative :-)18:08
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oquidave_Hello, am having some e errant program that's causing a lot of outbound traffic from my box. I no idea what is it. I've used tcpdump to identify the offending ip but I don't know which program is compromized. Here's my tcpdump output https://dpaste.de/S05e18:21
erle-where can I see my /actual/ cpu frequency?18:25
naccerle-: what do you mean by '/actual/' ?18:26
erle-nacc, it always shows 800 mhz (i7 with up to 3500)18:27
erle-e.g. /proc/cpuinfo18:27
naccerle-: that's the /actual/ cpu frequency your processor is running at18:27
james1138My question is more of a "tweak". Would anyone know how to get (or trick) Banshee into auto-update metadata from LastFM when I rescan music folder for new files?18:28
naccerle-: via a powersaving stepping, etc18:28
erle-nacc, but it never changes, even when I launch openssl speed18:28
erle-nacc, did this change with Ubuntu 16.1018:28
erle-?18:28
erle-cpufreq does not seem to work any longer18:29
naccerle-: not that I know of, and it changes normally here18:29
erle-nacc, I mean did they introduce a new kernel module for this?18:29
erle-nacc, the whole cpufreq stuff does not seem to be "in" any more18:30
naccerle-: cpufreq is rather old, iirc, I think it's all done via cstates in the kernel18:31
naccerle-: well, presuming intel18:31
naccerle-: i don't know, though, it's presumably dependent upon your cpu type, etc18:31
erle-i7, as I wrote, nacc18:32
naccerle-: not all i7 are the same, aiui, but regardless, I have an i7 as well and no issue here18:32
naccerle-: i'm on 17.04 now, but was on 16.10 until this past weekend w/o problem18:33
erle-nacc, I upgraded several times from 14.1018:34
erle-maybe some change was lost18:34
user31241test18:36
user31241ah nice.18:36
user31241Is there a "software sources" application for Ubuntu or independent, that is similar to one in Linux Mint? Thank you18:37
basil1xWhy does 16.04 think my 1440p monitor is a 'built-in display' and only giving me 1024x768 as a display option?18:38
OerHeksuser31241, yes, type sources in dash ..18:38
user31241OerHeks: but not this one. This one is very primitive.. :)18:38
user31241OerHeks:  :(* wrong smiley, sorry18:39
OerHeksuser31241, on what ubuntu version ?18:39
user31241OerHeks: On latest LTS18:39
k1luser31241: there is no 3rd party repo menu.18:39
OerHeksjust use the sources tab in updates.18:39
k1luser31241: because other than mint, the main target on ubuntu is not to use 3rd party repos all over.18:39
k1lbasil1x: adapters involved?18:40
basil1xGTX 1060 6GB through Display Port18:40
user31241k1l: But I want more software and don't want back to gentoo..18:41
k1luser31241: what more software do you need? is it not available in the ubuntu repos?18:41
OerHeks!ppa18:41
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge18:41
basil1xI had this issue on an rx480 through DVI on another computer, but this one with the nvidia was working fine until literally an hour ago.18:41
user31241k1l: ppa:maarten-baert/simplescreenrecorder ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8 ppa:nickguletskii200/glxosd ppa:varlesh-l/indicator-kdeconnect ppa:skunk/pepper-flash ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa Repos: google talk, getdeb, playonlinux, virtualbox(for HWE kernel),18:43
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Guest32961I can ask world of tank on ubuntu18:45
OerHeksuser31241, check those ppa's, i guess you have an old howto list18:45
user31241For example, current virtualbox breaks with hwe kernel and requires PPA.  So, back to the question, is there a GUI sources manager application similar to one of Linux Mint?18:45
OerHekslike that pepperflashppa , dead18:45
user31241OerHeks: sorry what?18:45
OerHeksthere is a gui sources tab, to add those ppa adresses.18:46
OerHeksin the latest lts.18:46
user31241OerHeks: oh, they dropped the automatic blob download from that PPA. Makes it useless for me, will have to pull PPAPI by hand as usual...18:47
BluesKajbasil1x, have you checked additional drivers ?18:48
OerHeksuser31241, flash is dead, disabled by default18:48
user31241OerHeks: Its not, its cool and its usable18:48
user31241OerHeks: PPAPI works fine with Firefox on Ubuntu and Gentoo18:48
user31241and Debian18:48
user31241OerHeks: I dislike HTML5 for applications. Flash data is self-contained downloadable blob. HTML5 is all over the site. For just videos HTML5 is fine.18:49
basil1xBluesKaj, Checking that now.  But why would it be working and suddenly stop?18:50
k1lubuntu got the adobe flashplugin installer. no need for that pepperflash stuff18:51
BluesKajbasil1x, did you update and upgrade your packages ?18:51
k1luser31241: no there is no gui ppa manager.18:52
user31241k1l: adobe flashplugin installer pulls NPAPI flash, which was a lot outdated, but only refreshed recently - and is buggy. PPAPI works and worked like charm.18:52
Squarismwhat is the easiest/thinest web proxy you can have to just redirect 80 and 443 to other ports?18:52
basil1xNot for a few days, Bl18:53
basil1xNot for a few days, BluesKaj18:53
basil1xNVM... going to up to 16.10 and see if that sorts it.  Was going to do anyway, so might as well be now.18:54
BluesKajbasil1x, http://askubuntu.com/questions/836239/ubuntu-16-04-doesnt-seem-to-see-my-gtx-1060-gpu18:56
blakkheimdid the recent kernel update break sound for anyone else?18:56
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craptalki downloaded a program, and i added the program to my path env, but how can i make a command to launch its program without having go to it its folder and execute by full pathname?19:00
craptalki put my program folder on /usr/bin19:01
craptalki added new path on my /etc/environment19:01
bekkscraptalk: And did you source that file after changing it?19:01
k1lcraptalk: user programs can be put into ~/bin19:01
basil1xBluesKaj, I'm hoping 16.10 will fix it. «fingers crossed»  If not, I'll use the drivers from the nvidia website.  Not ideal, but tired of futzing with it.19:01
k1lcraptalk: and to make it work you need to source the .bashrc or relogin19:02
craptalkso can you tell me the step by step?19:02
craptalkam i missing something?19:02
bekkscraptalk: Log out completely, log back in, done.19:02
craptalkso i should just move the dir to ~/bin?19:02
bekkscraptalk: No.19:02
bekkscraptalk: < bekks> craptalk: Log out completely, log back in, done.19:02
craptalkbekks: lets say i did what you asked, but how can i customize the command to lauch it?19:03
bekkscraptalk: Lets say you do what I say first.19:03
Squarismi want to install nginx (and run it as root ofocurse) "the right" way just to have it to proxy an web app. How should one go about?19:03
xroHi, is there a packaged mindmap soft in ubuntu 16.10 ?19:04
BluesKajbasil1x, the nvidia site drivers will break your system on the next kernel upgrade19:06
k1lxro: do you mean something like "dia"?19:06
xrolike xmind19:06
bekksxro: There is a linux variant for xmind.19:07
xroyes, but i'm a bit lazy... i downloaded it and it complains about eclipse plugin19:07
pavlosSquarism, steps 1,2,5 ... https://www.linuxbabe.com/linux-server/install-nginx-mariadb-php7-lemp-stack-ubuntu-16-04-lts19:08
k1ldia, freemind, freeplane, vym, ...19:08
xropackaged ?19:08
k1lxro: i named packagenames.19:09
basil1xBluesKaj, I'll deal with that then.  Remove them if I have to.19:11
freakyyhi all. how do i just install the kde graphical environment (not the bootup screens, other display manager etc. i just wann ahve kde as an addition for selection in the gdm19:11
xroapt-cache pkgnames | grep freemind   ---> nothing19:11
BluesKajthe url i posted above should help you install the correct driver, basil1x19:12
freakyytry apt-cache search freemind19:12
freakyyoh well nothign aswell ;P19:12
xroyes, i always use grep. i know19:12
bekksFreemind isnt available using Ubuntu repos anymore. They still have a linux version.19:13
k1lxro: oh, freemind is gone since 16.0419:15
xroso, a similar mindmap tool packaged ?19:15
k1lxro: i named more than one package. did you look at them?19:16
JJ_298034Any tips for setting up multitouch on synclient? My google-fu is weak.19:17
JJ_298034Is it just to install touchegg and hey presto?19:17
xroi'll try vym (looks acceptable)19:17
JJ_298034I tried having a look at Geis for capabilities, which says device touches=2 but I know thats wrong by successfully setting "synclient TapButton2=2" and "synclient TapButton3=3" for three finger taps19:20
freakyyhi all. how do i switch the default display manager?19:24
bekksfreakyy: By installing a second one, disabling the default, and enabling the second one.19:24
freakyyno i mean the commandline way19:25
JJ_298034rebooting to see if my changes gave me multitouch.19:25
freakyylike dpkg-reconfigure19:25
bekksfreakyy: That IS the commandline way...19:25
freakyyi have 3 display manager installed19:25
freakyyi dont need to install any other display manager19:25
freakyywhat i wanna do is get this dialog i get when installing another display manager19:25
bekksfreakyy: So disable the unwanted one and enable the wanted one.19:25
freakyythats what i wanna do but using the dialog i get from dpkg19:25
freakyywhen its configuring a new display manager19:25
w9qbjfreakyy, I install with sudo apt install   Then logout/login and select it there19:26
k1lfreakyy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm19:26
freakyyk1l: ok thx :D19:26
dannyLopezHi, anybody use Wildfly?19:26
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kadiroHello, I have a big problem after removing the kernel 4.4.0-{63..64} with mistakes, and before rebooting i reinstalled both but after rebooting i have another issues, no gui ( lightdm crashing ) and no internet ( ifconfig gives lo only ) after editing /etc/network/interfaces ( uncomment auto eth0 and next line about it ) nothing also, i used nmcli also same thing, my question how to solve this?19:37
floogyHi, how can I tell what kind of ram I got installed?19:37
bekksfloogy: Look at the label on the RAM.19:37
jgcampbell300i am trying to setup pureftp on ubuntu server and it is telling me to edit fstab to UUID=3dc3b58d-97e5-497b-8254-a913fdfc5408 / ext4 errors=remount-ro,usrjquota=quota.user,grpjquota=quota.group,jqfmt=vfsv0 0 1 (not my id) anways i have seprate / /home /var /etc dirs ... should i be changing my /home or the / folder with those options ?19:37
k1lfloogy: lshw19:38
OerHeks “sudo dmidecode --type 17”19:38
floogyI mean the e.g. hardware id of the single banks19:39
floogyOerHeks, thank you!19:40
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Mixxitcan i ask for help for ubuntu on windows here19:45
k1l!ubuwin | Mixxit19:45
ubottuMixxit: Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not supported in #ubuntu. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows.19:45
Mixxitthank you19:45
Mixxitits a bit quiet in there doh19:46
OnkelTemHi all19:47
BluesKajshould be called ubuntu apps on windows19:47
OnkelTemWhat player you'd recommend to try out to play HD video with 60 fps?19:48
OnkelTemI tried VLC - output is laggy. Mplayer just hangs19:48
BluesKajmpv perhaps19:48
BluesKajgot ffmpeg19:48
nicomachusmpv so good & nice yes yes yes19:49
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zorrothecatHow do I tell nvidia-settings/elementaryOS desktop settings....to keep my ViewPortOut in the NVIDIA X Server Settings ?? see link (http://imgur.com/a/TFrYv)19:58
zorrothecatnot kept after reboot19:58
zorrothecateven if saved to /etc/X11/xorg.conf19:58
k1l!elementory | zorrothecat19:59
k1l!elementary | zorrothecat19:59
ubottuzorrothecat: Elementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution.19:59
zorrothecatwell i guess the same thing happens in ubuntu ?20:00
zorrothecatnevermind...20:00
zorrothecatim asking here because #elementary #xorg #nvidia channels are DEAD20:01
zorrothecati just wanna save my file20:01
zorrothecati mean my config file20:01
zorrothecati miss xf86config20:02
zorrothecatthose were the days i guess...20:02
chrisss123456is there a simple way to use a midi keyboard on ubuntu? i'm having to go through so many steps and troubleshooting just to get a crappy, high-droprate, 90s piano sound that's still resource intensive.20:02
zorrothecatIf I were you I would find the KORG M1 VST and use a Linux/Wine(VST) bridge20:03
zorrothecatthe M1 piano is the best cheezy 90s house piano20:03
ojatkohello community! I am trying to open an encrypted home folder. when I am asked MOUNT passphrase, I am entering the 32-char phrase that was displayed to me in terminal. then I get 'success' message with the tmp/path shown. but on this path I find the home folder still encrypted.20:03
k1lzorrothecat: that OS handles things differently and because of that ask them for support. if their support channel is dead use their forum or wherever they offer support.20:03
ojatkoI also discovered that I get 'success' message no matter what I enter as password!20:04
EriC^^ojatko: try the login password as thr password20:06
j4f-shredderHey, my ubuntu 16.10 is freezing on login20:09
OnkelTemBluesKaj: thanks, gonna try it20:09
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j4f-shredderThe only thing I did was an autoclean20:10
j4f-shredderand then on reboot20:10
j4f-shredderI couldn't access20:10
j4f-shredderit's frozen20:10
EriC^^j4f-shredder: does th e guest account work?20:10
j4f-shreddernono, I can't do anything20:10
j4f-shredderit freezes 1 second after showing the login screen20:10
k1lcan you boot an older kernel on grub?20:10
j4f-shredderI tried to use the boot-repair-disk20:10
EriC^^without even logging in?20:10
EriC^^entering the password20:10
j4f-shredderand I rebooted but it still freezes20:11
ojatkoEric^^ I was about to try it, but I have another strange thing happening within the last hour. I am on a live dvd and for the second time the screen went black (with backlight) for about 30 seconds, and then the computer instantly shut down. what can be happening? I haven't had this with my HDD..could this be a faulty dvd install?20:11
j4f-shredderhow do I do that?20:11
EriC^^ojatko: possibly20:11
ojatkooh goodness20:11
j4f-shredderI got an invalid enviroment block before doing this20:12
EriC^^ojatko: can you use the actual install?20:12
j4f-shredderbefore getting my screen fronzen20:12
ioriaj4f-shredder, can you login in console ?20:12
j4f-shredderhow do I even do that?20:12
ioriaj4f-shredder, ctrl+alt+f1 (or f2)20:12
j4f-shredderbut when? cause as soon as the login scren appears the pc hangs20:13
ojatkoEric^^ I was able to use the HDD without this ever having occured20:13
j4f-shredderI can write for 1 second20:13
j4f-shredderand then it freezes20:13
ojatkoEric^^ ah sorry, got it20:13
j4f-shredderI have a dual boot with windoes 720:13
ojatkoyes, the install was fine20:13
j4f-shredderUEFI mode20:13
j4f-shredderI've been like this for 4 months20:14
j4f-shredderbut it failed today suddenly20:14
ioriaj4f-shredder, you don't write anything , it'a a keys sequence20:14
j4f-shredderI will be back and try that20:14
j4f-shredderif that screen doesn't appear what do I do?20:14
ojatkoEriC^^ and in my first run of the dvd  I was able to use it for a way longer while without this happening20:15
ioriaj4f-shredder, press shift (or ESC) and try another kernel from GRUB20:15
ojatkomaybe the programs that I installed cause this?20:15
ojatkoI use the live dvd for system checks20:15
j4f-shredderon advanced options?20:15
EriC^^ojatko: maybe, try running the dvd integrity check20:15
ioriaojatko, from live you can use  sudo ecryptfs-recover-private20:15
ioriaj4f-shredder, yes20:16
hgagconnect20:16
hgagahmed20:17
ojatkoioria, yes, that was the original problem. the command didnt decrypt the home folder when I entered correct mount password20:17
ojatkobut now I need to get a working live dvd, or get the live dvd working :)20:17
ioriaojatko,  you said mounted something in /tmp ?20:17
ojatkoioria, yes20:18
ioriaojatko,  what ?20:18
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hgagzero cool20:18
ojatkoEric^^ I presume I check the dvd with the respective option at ubuntu start screen?20:19
ojatkoioria, the path that I entered with the command20:19
EriC^^ojatko: yes20:20
ioriaojatko,  path does not mount ....20:20
EriC^^it's available in legacy mode only iirc20:20
ojatkoI had to enter the path after ecryptfs command, because without command it returend that typical error with 'permission denied' mentioning a loop of two paths (sorry, I dont have the paste of the error)..so I added the path as suggested in an online post20:21
ojatkoreturned*20:21
hgagno20:21
ojatkothe path of the home folder to be decrypted20:21
J4f-shredderIm on command line with another kernel20:22
J4f-shredderWhat do I do now?20:22
EriC^^ojatko: try with the login password20:22
ioriaojatko,  ok, can you paste ls -al /tmp  ?20:22
ojatkoEriC^^ once I get back on live system again, I will do it!20:22
EriC^^J4f-shredder: try starting lightdm again20:23
J4f-shredderWhats that?20:23
EriC^^J4f-shredder: the login manager, sudo systemctl restart lightdm and try logging in20:23
J4f-shredderIM A noob in a blackscreen20:23
J4f-shredderIt shows the screen for a sec and closes20:24
ioriaj4f-shredder, sudo lshw -c Video | grep driver20:24
disi`sudo apt-get update` recently stopped working for me on Precise with this error: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/rwky/redis/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found20:24
J4f-shredderIt says IO charset iso8859-1 not found20:24
disican anyone shed some light on what is going on?20:25
J4f-shredderWhen i restart with light20:25
EriC^^disi: sounds like the ppa is down20:25
kadiroHello, I have a big problem after removing the kernel 4.4.0-{63..64} with mistakes, and before rebooting i reinstalled both but after rebooting i have another issues, no gui ( lightdm crashing ) and no internet ( ifconfig gives lo only ) after editing /etc/network/interfaces ( uncomment auto eth0 and next line about it ) nothing also, i used nmcli also same thing, my question how to solve this?20:25
ojatkoEriC^^ I select 'check disk for defects' but it goes on to boot ubuntu20:25
ojatkooh no sorry20:25
ojatkonow the message showed, that it's checking20:26
disiEriC^^: is that not a default source?20:26
geirhakadiro: try installing the ubuntu-desktop package20:26
EriC^^disi: no it's a launchpad ppa20:26
kadirogeirha, yeah, but the problem how without internet20:26
disiEriC^^: interesting, ok thanks... i wonder why this is even in the sources. im just trying to use a genric ubuntu host on Travis CI20:27
J4f-shredderWhen I throw sudo lshw -c Video grep drover it says configuration:driver =i915 latency=020:27
ioriaj4f-shredder, what ubuntu is that ?20:28
EriC^^disi: looks like an old ppa, not just precise is gone20:28
J4f-shredder16.1020:28
ioriaj4f-shredder, uname -r20:28
geirhakadiro: ah, does ''ip addr show'' or ''ifconfig -a'' mention the interface at all?20:28
J4f-shredder4.8.0-37-generic020:29
J4f-shredderGeneric i meant witjout the 020:29
kadirogeirha, i tried the last one ( ifconfig -a ) but only 'lo' interface showing up20:29
ioriaj4f-shredder,  try sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade20:29
geirhakadiro: Hm. Maybe you're missing the modules20:30
J4f-shredderTake into account that I changed kernel on advanced settings like you said20:30
J4f-shredderIts not the main kernel20:30
EriC^^disi: try dpkg -l | awk '$1 == "ii" {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -C10 launchpad20:30
ioriaj4f-shredder,  it's ok20:30
geirhakadiro: See if /var/cache/apt/archives/ has any packages20:30
kadirogeirha, that make sense, i guess when i removed the kernel, it removed the headers too20:30
EriC^^disi: it should give a rough idea of packages from that ppa20:30
J4f-shredderIt failed resolving20:31
kadirogeirha, ok20:31
ioriaj4f-shredder,  ping www.google.com20:31
J4f-shredderIm using a wifi card20:31
J4f-shredderNot a connector20:31
kadirogeirha, about 104 deb files20:32
ioriaj4f-shredder,  ping www.google.com20:32
J4f-shredderTemporary failure in name resolution20:32
geirhakadiro: nice, look for linux-image-extra*deb20:32
ioriaj4f-shredder,  did you reboot on recovery mode ?20:32
geirhayou can manually install with ''sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb''20:32
J4f-shredderPossibly20:33
J4f-shredderI rebooted20:33
ioriaj4f-shredder,  reboot normally20:33
J4f-shredderNow im in advanced settings20:33
kadirogeirha, yes 3 extra, one for 62, one for 63 and the last for 6420:33
J4f-shredderI have a generic generic upstart and generic recovery mode20:33
ioriaj4f-shredder,  no, reboot normally, older kernel not working anyway20:33
kadirogeirha, thank you, i will reboot and try20:33
ojatkoEriC^^ no errors found on dvd. could it then be the laptop's dvd player?20:34
ioriaj4f-shredder,  then open a console20:34
J4f-shredderI did20:34
J4f-shredderBut its frozen20:34
J4f-shredderKeyboard nor mouse are responding20:34
ioriaj4f-shredder,  the console is frozen ?20:35
J4f-shredderIm stucked on the ubuntu login screen20:35
J4f-shredderI cant switch to console20:35
EriC^^ojatko: maybe, if you have enough ram you could add "toram" to the grub kernel parameters so it loads it all to ram20:35
disiEriC^^: ty, doesnt look like anything i care baout in there20:35
ioriaj4f-shredder,  wait a bit20:35
EriC^^disi: ok, np20:35
J4f-shredderThe lights on the keyboard are dead as well and the lights on the mouse are on20:36
J4f-shredderBut I cant see the cursor20:36
ojatkoit already was behaving strange, like it started to spin the dvd, but stopped shortly after, so the computer went on to boot the HDD..this happened multiple times..whether this relates to the above shutdowns20:36
ioriaj4f-shredder,  wait for the login screen20:37
azizLIGHTi got too many kernels in /boot. to remove them, is it correct that i gotta purge packages like linux-image-3.13.0-85-generic and then also this package: linux-headers-3.13.0-85 and linux-headers-3.13.0-85-generic also? anything else?20:37
J4f-shredderHey I removed the wifi card20:37
J4f-shredderAnd rebooted and now I can access20:37
J4f-shredderThe wifi card was freezing the screen20:37
ioriaj4f-shredder,  you removed the wifi card ?20:37
J4f-shredderIts a tew-624ub20:38
J4f-shredderIts a pendrive wifi card20:38
ioriaj4f-shredder,  an adapter, then20:38
J4f-shredderTrendnet tew 624-ub20:38
J4f-shredderYes20:38
ioriaj4f-shredder,  can you login now ?20:39
J4f-shredderYeah, I reconnected that and it freezes the computer20:39
ioriaj4f-shredder,  can you paste dmesg | tail ?20:39
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: Too full for ' sudo apt autoremove ' to operate ? show in a pastebin ' df -h ; df -i ; dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . See what we can do .20:40
colemattLooking for alternate ways to get the kernel source. Had been following the BuildYourOwnKernel tutorial on wiki.ubuntu.com, when using the apt-get method for 3.13.0-108-generic, I get two errors. 1) E: Failed to fetch (...)linux_3.13.0-108.155.dsc 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.26 80] and 2) E: Failed to fetch (...)linux_3.13.0-108.155.diff.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.23 80]. Not sure how to proceed.20:41
colemattAlso not sure the git method on BuildYourOwnKernel will work since I have a specific kernel version, not a codename (although I'm on 14.04 LTS Trusty)20:42
J4f-shredderRtl8192cu: loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw_TMSC.bin registered new interface driver rtl8192cu rehisyered new interface rtl8xxxu20:43
ioria!paste | J4f-shredder20:43
ubottuJ4f-shredder: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:43
nacccolematt: why do you need a now out-of-date kernels' source?20:43
nacccolematt: trusty is up to 3.13.0.110.118 i mean20:43
azizLIGHTBashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24048709/20:44
azizLIGHTuname -r20:44
azizLIGHT3.13.0-101-generic20:45
Bashing-omcolematt: Maube find the image and headers you want here : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ?20:45
colematt@nacc: I am not partial to the kernel version, but I am trying to follow along on the tutorial, and that's what the instructions had. This is my first time modifying the kernel.20:45
ApafusNode /server irc.netsplit.de20:46
nacccolematt: from using what? `apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)` ?20:46
ApafusNodeCricky.20:46
colemattLong story short, I need to modify it so that I can add EXPORT_SYMBOL(do_execve) to exec.c ... I need that for a kprobe I'm writing.20:47
colematt@nacc: yes, that was the command I used.20:47
nacccolematt: you're system is not running a current kernel then :/20:47
Guest39470hey20:47
Guest72013hi20:47
arunsHi, has anyone compiled SFML from scratch via CMake?20:47
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: Humm .. " 1.6G  90% / " suggest you have the operating room . what results ' sudo apt autoremove ' ?20:47
nacccolematt: *first* apt update; apt upgrade; boot to the current supported kernel and then proceed.20:47
arunsLooking at the dependencies needed to set up the build toolchain, and one of the dependencies listed is vorbis, checking apt-cache shows a package called vorbis-tools.20:48
arunsNot sure if this is the right package to install?20:48
KingsQuestdon't freestyle much but i write em as such :D20:48
arunsThis is for version 2.4 of SFML.20:48
azizLIGHTBashing-om: when i did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24048731/ it lists the package for autoremove20:48
arunsAnd I am on Ubuntu 16.04.20:48
colematt@nacc: my concern is that current kernel is 4.x - all references I have for writing kprobes are for 3.x. Will your recommendation take me to a 4.x kernel?20:49
nacccolematt: no20:49
nacccolematt: i think you are confused about which kernel is where20:49
ioria!info libsfml-dev20:49
ubottulibsfml-dev (source: libsfml): Simple and Fast Multimedia Library - Development Files. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.0+dfsg-2 (yakkety), package size 112 kB, installed size 974 kB20:49
colematt@nacc: there's a good chance of that.20:49
KingsQuestwhich kernel ?20:49
debkadgeirha: thank you very much, the problem was about the extra image :)20:49
KingsQuesti getting criminals out of jail too20:50
nacccolematt: yes, upstream kernel (as well as x, y, z) are 4.x based20:50
nacccolematt: but trusty has several kernels available20:50
coffeeguyoh wow linux-signed-image update20:50
colemattWhat would be a good read so I can understand this better?20:50
nitin21Hi! I am on ubuntu 14.04 and I am trying to install the package 'crda'. But I get this message:20:50
nitin21"Package crda is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'crda' has no installation candidate"20:50
KingsQuestich bein ein lieuber20:50
nacccolematt: 3.13.0 based is the 14.04/14.04.1 version; there is also the HWE stack from 16.04 which would be 4.4 based (iirc)20:50
nitin21How do I find which source to add for this package?20:50
naccKingsQuest: please stop20:50
nitin21I can see it here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/net/crda20:50
ioriaaruns, on yakkety you have 2.420:50
azizLIGHTBashing-om: should i remove all these packages. why so many packages in autoremove??20:51
naccnitin21: um, crda is in main in all releases currently, what version of ubuntu?20:51
KingsQuesti'm a supporter of ubuntu 16.04 :D20:51
nitin21nacc, Distributor ID:Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS Release:14.04 Codename:trusty20:51
naccnitin21: please pastebin `apt-cache policy crda`20:52
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: Looks to be a lot of obsolete 32 bit packags . Me, I would "do it" . I do have faith in the system and what autoremov will clean out . There is a faint possibility of breakage but if so we fix later .20:52
j4f-shredder__ioria that is the output https://codeshare.io/2K8xvX20:52
naccnitin21: also note, that 14.04.4 is no longer supported, you should be fully updated to 14.04.5 by now20:52
arunsioria: Ah OK, so I can always install the official package if I want, just a bit of wary of using APT at times as some of the packages are pretty dated.20:52
j4f-shredder__I have one second to see the logs cause it freezes after connect20:52
j4f-shredder__and I have to reboot20:52
KingsQuesthe stole from amiga ?20:53
j4f-shredder__I had to type that by hand20:53
ioriaaruns, maybe a yakkety vm...20:53
nitin21yeah I should :(. Working on some legacy box20:53
nitin21nacc, here's the paste: http://pastebin.com/eQ4ZSUe020:53
ojatkoEriC^^ login password didnt open it, either. in fact, as I said above, I can enter any gibberish as password, and it returns me 'success! mounted at /tmp/somepath' ?!20:53
arunsioria: Oh sorry, you meant 16.10, assumed you meant 15.x :P20:53
geirhadebkad: Great :)20:53
ioria!info libsfml-dev | aruns20:53
ubottuaruns: libsfml-dev (source: libsfml): Simple and Fast Multimedia Library - Development Files. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.0+dfsg-2 (yakkety), package size 112 kB, installed size 974 kB20:53
naccaruns: please pastebin `apt update` output20:54
naccaruns: sorry20:54
EriC^^ojatko: hmm20:54
naccnitin21: please pastebin `apt-get update` output20:54
arunsnacc: :P20:54
nitin21okay, also I am actually trying to install "linux-image-extra-3.13.0-88-generic" which requires crda20:54
naccnitin21: uh20:54
KingsQuestmsg #ubunt-discuss theater under the stars.  dinner for two.  theater,music books, and bookstop music no where on the internet even movies, galleria mall iceskatin20:55
naccnitin21: why are you trying to install that kernel??20:55
arunsioria: Thanks. I have a question that should me greatly - I believe there is a command for this with apt-get, but how can I check what a package would actually install?20:55
azizLIGHTBashing-om: i did autoremove, but there were no kernels removed20:55
debkadgeirha: without your answer i was quiet to format and install from zero with all the config, it had to be a big pain hahaha, thanks again20:55
j4f-shredder__how do I remove the wifi adaptor drivers?? ioria that is the output https://codeshare.io/2K8xvX20:55
azizLIGHTBashing-om: i still have tons of kernel in my /boot20:55
j4f-shredder__it seems there are two drivers20:55
j4f-shredder__or something20:55
j4f-shredder__or I could even settle with doing a downgrade, I dont care at this point20:55
j4f-shredder__this is too unstable20:55
azizLIGHTBashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24048775/20:56
ioriaaruns,  apt-cache policy libsfml-dev20:56
arunsioria: Ah, the -s flag looks like it would work also.20:56
nitin21nacc, I am trying to install kernel because docker needs it. Let me find where docker's package does that. Meanwhile pastebin: http://pastebin.com/eig1hFf720:56
naccnitin21: that seems like nonsense. So because docker needs something, you'll make your machine vulnerable to security issues?20:57
nitin21nacc, https://github.com/garethr/garethr-docker/blob/master/manifests/install.pp#L3220:57
nitin21ha20:57
j4f-shredder__could someone please tell me how to remove some drivers?? Im totally lost20:57
j4f-shredder__ioria that is the output https://codeshare.io/2K8xvX20:57
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: Then the package manager is broke on old kernels .. maybe so old back that autoremove does not apply ? ... let's get rid of the clutter so I see the tree in the forrest .20:57
naccnitin21: so first, you need to update your system20:58
naccnitin21: to the current 14.0420:58
naccnitin21: full stop. anyting else is unsupported20:58
nitin21nacc, okay. I will work on that :)20:59
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: Now let’s remove all the packages marked as rc ( removed but config files remain): dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge20:59
ojatkoEriC^^ it's ok, I will try something else to do what I wanted with the home folder. thank you so much!20:59
nitin21thanks nacc!20:59
naccnitin21: that will probably fix the other things. You are also not using any (or hardly any) actual ubuntu repositories, so it's hard for me to tell what is correct20:59
EriC^^ojatko: ok, no problem20:59
nitin21yeah, we limit the repositories20:59
nitin21I can add some if I need them21:00
naccnitin21: you are *only* running a kernel.org mirror of trusty-updates. I have no idea where your trusty release is, but that's why you can't install crda.21:00
naccnitin21: you are so far from running ubuntu that it's not supportable here21:00
j4f-shredder__nitin21 please, I need your help, I have to work and my computer freezes when I plug the wifi adaptor . https://codeshare.io/2K8xvX that is what I get21:00
azizLIGHTBashing-om: i dunno if i want to do that one. i want to keep configs21:00
j4f-shredder__and then the computer freezes21:00
nitin21nacc, oh okay, yeah. I was just working on some legacy system and I am not expert on this. Kinda stuck but maybe updating ubuntu might be the required step21:01
naccnitin21: seriously, it's not ubuntu the way it is configured now.21:01
naccnitin21: i don't know what it is21:01
j4f-shredder__Should I go back to windows and forget about ubuntu? if everyday I will have driver problems I might stick with the easy stuff, this is way over my head and too unstable21:01
nitin21I see21:02
geniij4f-shredder__: Alternately, get a better adapter that's not Broadcom based21:03
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: Oh but the faith of a musstard seed . will only remove files that no longer serve any purpose as the packages have been removed .21:03
j4f-shredder__This adapter worked for a year and ahalf and it works on windows without any problem21:04
azizLIGHTBashing-om: yes but i wanna keep the configs i may install those packages again21:04
j4f-shredder__that is not the problem21:04
j4f-shredder__the problem is that with a new update it seems that it installed two drivers or something21:04
j4f-shredder__https://codeshare.io/2K8xvX21:04
j4f-shredder__check21:04
j4f-shredder__how can I remove everything21:05
j4f-shredder__from the wifi card21:05
j4f-shredder__and start from scratch21:05
azizLIGHTBashing-om: for example, i want to keep the nvidia stuff, glances, nautilius-pushbullet,21:05
azizLIGHTBashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24048829/21:05
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: K, then I see what I can do through all the clutter . bear with me while I look . and we sic 'dpkg' on the old kernels.21:05
geniij4f-shredder__: The problem is that the adapter manufacturer has designed their hardware with only Windows in mind for it to operate under, without providing information to the linux device driver authors to make a proper driver for it.21:06
j4f-shredder__but why yesterday it worked21:06
j4f-shredder__and now it isn't?21:07
j4f-shredder__I havent done any dist upgrade21:07
j4f-shredder__or anything21:07
j4f-shredder__I've used it for one year and a half on ubuntu21:07
j4f-shredder__so that cannot be the problem21:07
j4f-shredder__How do I uninstall every wifi adapter driver?21:07
j4f-shredder__that would be more helpful to know21:07
j4f-shredder__I might try that21:08
j4f-shredder__please, I just need to know that21:09
j4f-shredder__how to uninstall all drivers21:09
j4f-shredder__the name of the firmware is rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw_TMSC.bin21:09
j4f-shredder__driver name rtl8192cu21:10
geniij4f-shredder__: All drivers are part of each kernel package. The way to prevent a driver from being used is to blacklist it instead21:10
genii!blacklist21:10
ubottuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »21:10
j4f-shredder__but if I black list it then will it reinstall it when plugged?21:10
geniij4f-shredder__: No21:10
j4f-shredder__so that wont do any good21:11
j4f-shredder__I just need to start from scratch21:11
geniij4f-shredder__: Blacklisting a driver means it will never be used.21:11
j4f-shredder__I just need to discard what's installed and then let the SO install it again when plugged21:11
j4f-shredder__is there any way to discard all updates from the last 24 hours?21:11
j4f-shredder__I did an autoclean command21:11
j4f-shredder__and after that the problems started21:12
j4f-shredder__it was a couple of hours ago21:12
geniij4f-shredder__: Try instead booting to a previous kernel from GRUB and see if the problem persists21:12
e__HEY21:12
MarcGuayHi folks.  Is there a way to make ubuntu scream at me when disk space is low?21:12
j4f-shredder__I did that but it the so wont start21:12
j4f-shredder__it just shows a black screen21:13
j4f-shredder__a console the previous kernel21:13
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: Should not be too tough to remove the old kernels, . But dinner is on the table . I be back soonest .21:13
azizLIGHTok :)21:13
j4f-shredder__Do you know anything more stable than ubuntu? is debian better?21:14
j4f-shredder__and with better support?21:14
geniij4f-shredder__: Each kernel has it's own drivers which are in the filesystem usually somewhere like /lib/modules/<kernel-version-here>/kernel/drivers  area. When you plug something in, it doesn't go out somewhere on the internet or so to find a driver. It just uses the one in that area . If you delete the one it's using, then no driver at all will be used21:16
j4f-shredder__I will have to reinstall ubuntu 16.04 then21:17
j4f-shredder__I dont want to waste more time on this21:17
geniij4f-shredder__: Ubuntu uses the same drivers that Debian does.21:17
j4f-shredder__Look, I used ubuntu for a year and a half and only today failed21:17
j4f-shredder__with this same card21:18
j4f-shredder__so the driver exists21:18
geniij4f-shredder__: Odds are the driver is the same as before. But the kernel changed in some way now that makes the driver no longer work. This is why I already suggested to boot to a previous kernel.21:19
j4f-shredder__but I only have 2 kernerls21:19
* genii wanders off to do something more productive21:19
j4f-shredder__listed21:19
j4f-shredder__on the advanced options in grub21:19
j4f-shredder__each one with 3 options21:19
j4f-shredder__how can I know which was the previous kernel21:21
j4f-shredder__and how can I set it as default?21:21
colematt@nacc: ok, so I finished apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. You told me to "boot to the current supported kernel". Is this as straightforward as rebooting the system, or do I need to do something special?21:21
nacccolematt: yeah, jsut reboot to the latest kernel installed (i think it should be -110-118 or so)21:24
j4f-shredder__nacc21:26
j4f-shredder__please21:26
j4f-shredder__tell me how to set a previous kernel as the default21:26
j4f-shredder__on the grub advanced config21:27
weaksaucewhat would cause a bind error when starting it that user 'bind' not found? the user bind is already created21:27
naccj4f-shredder__: you said you had two kernels, boot the older one21:29
j4f-shredder__on the menu yes21:29
j4f-shredder__but I have 37 and 3821:29
j4f-shredder__when I enter the SO21:29
j4f-shredder__and check for kernels it shows more21:29
j4f-shredder__32, 35, 37, 3821:29
j4f-shredder__ufif I try to boot the older kernel that is listed in grub21:30
naccj4f-shredder__: SO? which kernel are you on now?21:30
j4f-shredder__3721:30
j4f-shredder__I get to a screen21:30
j4f-shredder__its supossed to be on 4.8.0.3821:30
naccj4f-shredder__: does 38 work?21:30
j4f-shredder__and the only other option is 4.8.0.3721:30
j4f-shredder__it works but as soon as I plug the wifi card21:32
j4f-shredder__it fails21:32
j4f-shredder__if I run the 3721:32
j4f-shredder__I get redirected to the emergency mode21:32
j4f-shredder__even if I dont select the emergency mode option21:32
naccj4f-shredder__: is this 16.10?21:33
j4f-shredder__yes21:34
j4f-shredder__I dont know if this kernel21:34
j4f-shredder__Im just showing you the two listed21:34
naccj4f-shredder__: even those are out of date already (16.10 is at 4.8.0.39 now)21:34
j4f-shredder__why the 16.10 kernels are not listed21:36
j4f-shredder__there?21:36
j4f-shredder__I think I will just reinstall everything, its the 3rd time I have to reinstall from scratch in 6 moths21:36
j4f-shredder__I hate this so21:36
j4f-shredder__I might try redhat or some other distro21:36
k1lthat is not motivating helpers in here if you say that constantly21:37
dannyLpzI install Dropbox in XFCE, and now, when open "nautilus" showme the path ralvarez713@gmail.com21:37
dannyLpzNo this email, jajaja21:37
naccj4f-shredder__: you are just on an older 16.10 kernel21:38
j4f-shredder__it's really frustrating, I dont want to offend anyone but everytime there's a probem noone knows the answer21:38
k1ldannyLpz: you have new mail :)21:38
dannyLpzI install Dropbox in XFCE, and now, when open "nautilus" showme the path: $HOME/.dropbox-work21:38
j4f-shredder__but why is it booting on emergency mode21:38
OerHeksrtl8192cu is your culprit, how did you install the driver?21:38
dannyLpzk1l: Is a test mail :O21:38
naccj4f-shredder__: i don't know, i've not seen any logs to say21:38
j4f-shredder__https://codeshare.io/2K8xvX21:38
j4f-shredder__this is the reason21:38
j4f-shredder__of why the wifi is crushing the system21:38
j4f-shredder__but I dont know how to wipe the drivers and reinstalling them21:39
naccj4f-shredder__: 'wifi is crushing the system'?21:39
geniij4f-shredder__: Consider: how much time are you willing to spend on figuring the problem out or trying various installs of different distributions? Multiply that by minimum wage. Then decide if it's less money or more money than just buying an adapter that will be known to work with both operating systems equally well.21:39
OerHeksjferguson, how did you install the driver?21:39
naccj4f-shredder__: it seems like it doesn't get link21:39
dannyLpzAny way, can I change the path $HOME/.dropbox-work for the real $HOME?21:39
OerHekserr j4f-shredder__  ^^21:39
k1ldannyLpz: does the xfce use .desktop files? look if there is the wrong path21:39
naccj4f-shredder__: and afaict, failing to get wireless link won't drop you to the emergency shell, unless you have network root21:39
j4f-shredder__this card has worked for a year and a half21:40
j4f-shredder__with ubuntu21:40
j4f-shredder__it failed a couple of hours ago21:40
naccj4f-shredder__: did you reboot? did you change kernels?21:40
naccj4f-shredder__: what do you mean "failed"?21:40
j4f-shredder__it freezes as soon as I plug the usb adapter21:40
j4f-shredder__it never happened before under ubuntu21:40
naccj4f-shredder__: has it worked under that particular kernel before?21:40
bekksj4f-shredder__: Did you consider that device being broken?21:41
j4f-shredder__nono21:41
j4f-shredder__it works on windows21:41
j4f-shredder__I just tried21:41
naccj4f-shredder__: i don't care about windows21:41
j4f-shredder__it works on mac21:41
naccj4f-shredder__: both of those are proprietary OSes, which can pay vendors to be compatible21:41
yobagme_j4f-shredder__: What if you boot into an Ubuntu live USB and try the wifi device from there? What happens?21:41
naccyobagme_: an excellent suggestion21:42
j4f-shredder__if it does work21:42
j4f-shredder__what should I do?21:42
k1land chroot into the install and update that and sort that kernel mess21:42
naccj4f-shredder__: what k1l said21:42
j4f-shredder__I dont know what that means21:42
naccj4f-shredder__: use a current live usb of 16.1021:42
j4f-shredder__to be honest21:42
j4f-shredder__I need commands21:42
yobagme_Boot off the USB first and see if it works. At least verify if its working or not under that21:43
j4f-shredder__it will work for sure21:45
j4f-shredder__it was some kind of update that messed this up21:45
naccj4f-shredder__: just do it, please.21:45
darsparxcan anyone help me? I'm trying to use quassel on server and can't seem to connect on the external IP for it....21:45
lernerwhat do I have to add to a command so instead of following proxy instructions it connects directly to internet?21:45
j4f-shredder__I am21:45
nacclerner: maybe specify no_proxy= ?21:45
nacclerner: i'm not sure where that gets supported21:46
TheM4st3rHi21:46
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nacclerner: it depends on how you're proxy is used though21:46
TheM4st3rBRBRBRBR21:46
backciao21:47
TheM4st3rYou're have a books about Python?21:47
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ubottuTheM4st3r: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:48
PiciTheM4st3r: sounds like a question for #python21:48
k1lTheM4st3r: i guess #python knows about that21:48
TheM4st3roK21:48
TheM4st3r#Python21:48
TheM4st3rlmfao21:48
j4f-shredder__in the future, can you avoid getting updates on the kernel?21:48
j4f-shredder__I would like to freeze the version21:48
j4f-shredder__I couldnt care less about the extra features, I just use it for minimal stuff21:49
k1ldarsparx: if you are behind a router you need to forward the needed ports to that machine.21:49
TheM4st3rNo.21:49
naccj4f-shredder__: that is not necessarily recommended, e.g. you want security updates21:49
j4f-shredder__I dont care about security, I just need to be up and running21:49
j4f-shredder__I dont have anything important21:49
k1lj4f-shredder__: no, that doesnt make sense. there was something more wrong on your system.21:49
darsparxk1l: I don't think I am, the server is connected over a powerline adapter21:49
j4f-shredder__I cant lose one day of my life, I have to work21:49
naccj4f-shredder__: then *why* are you running 16.10?21:50
naccj4f-shredder__: stay on 16.0421:50
j4f-shredder__Maybe I will21:50
TheM4st3rYou're a books about penetration tests? I'm curious for this.21:50
yobagme_Agree with nacc. I personally stay on the LTS releases unless absolutely necessary21:50
naccTheM4st3r: this is the ubuntu support channel, as i just had ubottu tell you.21:50
j4f-shredder__I will wipe out windows as well, I hate that21:51
naccj4f-shredder__: it's not unheard of for kernel updates to regress things, because hardware is finicky. Usually a bug filed will get it fixed. Or, if you were to boot the most current 16.10 kernel, it's fixed there, and you just need to update your system from the live usb.21:51
TheM4st3rHow use IRC? This my first channel in the chat lmfao21:51
k1l!irc > TheM4st3r21:51
ubottuTheM4st3r, please see my private message21:51
j4f-shredder__the best SO I-ve used so far is mac, followed by Ubuntu, it's a shame that it doesn't get the same attention21:51
TheM4st3rOk21:51
j4f-shredder__but some day it will21:52
k1ldarsparx: i guess its not connected with powerline to the internet, right?21:52
queskerI commented out "start on runlevel ..." in autofs.conf but initctl show-config autofs still shows start on ...21:52
TheNH813How do I remove additional data downloads from apt?21:52
darsparxk1l: I mean I guess it's going through our home modem/router combo but I've never done something like this before and trying to get it up and running21:53
TheNH813I uninstalled a application, but I still get the "Additional data failed to download" for an application that's no longer installed.21:53
TheM4st3rYou're speak a Portuguese (Brasil)?21:53
TheNH813Which config file do I erase some lines out of?21:53
TheM4st3r"(Brazil)?"21:53
nacc!pt | TheM4st3r21:54
ubottuTheM4st3r: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.21:54
weaksauceI am getting `su: User not known to the underlying authentication module` when trying to startup fetchmail21:54
yobagme_j4f-shredder__: Ubuntu is actually plenty stable. Wifi on Linux can be a PITA unless you're using tried and true intel chipset-based devices.21:54
weaksaucethis has been working fine for years21:54
naccTheM4st3r: which application? you might need to purge it21:54
k1ldarsparx: if you want one internal machine to be reached behind a router, you need to forward the ports on the router. its like sending a mail just to a adress without naming the house number. the postman doesnt know which house to give it to.21:54
geniiweaksauce: Use sudo -i  instead21:54
TheNH813weaksauce: USe sudo.21:54
weaksauceI am running /etc/init.d/fetchmail start21:54
darsparxk1l: then how do I do that? I'm still trying to learn this since I'm trying to manage a home server for this >_>21:55
TheM4st3r:( O chat em português não pega no Ubuntu 15.1021:55
TheNH813Su dosen't work unless root has a password, which dosen't exist on modern Linux systems for security purposes.21:55
TheNH813Go sudo -i21:55
k1lweaksauce: what ubuntu is it?21:55
TheNH813Then type  /etc/init.d/fetchmail start21:55
weaksaucek1l it's fairly old21:55
geniiweaksauce: Instead of running scripts in /etc/init or /etc/init.d use instead service. Like sudo service servicename start21:55
TheNH813"sudo -i" will get you a root terminal.21:55
weaksauceok21:55
k1lweaksauce: ? details matter. since different ubuntu use different init systems21:56
bekksweaksauce: sudo /etc/init.d/fetchmail start21:56
TheNH813Oh yeah, "sudo service fetchmail start" should also work if it's in init.d.21:56
weaksaucewhat's the way to check k1l21:56
k1lweaksauce: lsb_release -sd21:56
geniibekks:  But then what happens if there's already an upstart instance from /etc/init running?21:56
weaksauce10.04.4 lts k1l21:56
bekksgenii: Never tried it.21:56
k1ldarsparx: you need to use the routers website to set the ports.21:56
TheNH813Is that Ubuntu Lucid? That's old. XD21:56
j4f-shredder__what are good wifi adapters for ubuntu?21:57
bekks!10.0421:57
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support ended on April 30 2015. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.21:57
k1llucid is already deaad.21:57
weaksauce`fetchmail: You don't exist.  Go away.`21:57
weaksauceusing sudo service fetchmail start21:57
TheNH813Fetchmail is being rude. Did you not setup accounts?21:58
k1ldarsparx: there you need to forward the ports for quassel to the internal ip from your homeserver.21:58
weaksauceTheNH813 yes, this has been working for years fine21:58
queskergrep su /etc/init.d/fetchmail, then grep for that su -c user in /etc/passwd21:58
TheNH813weaksauce: Maybe something got corrupted. Couldn't hurt to make sure permissions and settings are good once more.21:59
yobagme_j4f-shredder__: stick with intel wifi when possible. I can vouch for the Intel 7265 and 6230 devices personally21:59
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: Back ., lets try and take a poke at this ; ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.13.0-{39,40,45,46,48,49,51,52,53,54,55,63,65,66,71}{,-generic} ' .22:00
queskerhow do you get changes to stuff in /etc/init/ to take effect?   initctl reload-configuration isn't doing it22:00
Luser_Is this where I would ask about getting a PXE error while trying to boot from a usb stick?22:00
weaksaucequesker `su -s /bin/sh -c "/usr/bin/strace -tt $* $DAEMON $OPTIONS --nosyslog --nodetach -v -v" $USER <&- 2>&1`22:00
weaksauceand `su -s /bin/sh -c "$DAEMON $OPTIONS --nosyslog --nodetach -v -v" $USER <&- 2>&1`22:00
queskerok grep that USER now22:00
queskergrep USER /etc/init.d/fetchmail22:01
TheNH813Hey, anyone know how to get rid of the "Additional data failed to download" message? I even uninstalled the offending application, and it still comes up.22:01
OerHeks10.04 is a honeypot now.22:01
yobagme_TheNH813: what package does it reference?22:02
k1lTheNH813: where does that message come from?22:02
\9weaksauce: 10.04 has been dead for two years now. you're way behind security packages22:02
TheNH813katsomo-desktop, wine-silverlight4-installer, wine-browser-installer, redbox-desktop, lovefilm-desktop, wine-mpg2splt-installer, netflix-desktop, sumo-tv2-desktop, wine-silverlight5.1-installer, maxdome-desktop, wine-silverlight5.0-installer22:02
weaksauceit's fetchmail and that user exists22:02
TheNH813I tried to install the netflix client. That was a bad idea,22:02
\9weaksauce: upgrade now for your own sake, your system is very vulnerable for attack22:02
k1lTheNH813: run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" and put all the output to paste.ubuntu.com22:02
queskerso try su to that user22:02
weaksauce \9 yeah I know. I have suggested to upgrade but they don't want to22:02
quesker(as root)22:02
\9weaksauce: they?22:03
weaksaucequesker I get the same error as before22:03
weaksaucesu user not known...22:03
ubuntu-matehi all22:03
weaksauceperhaps they got hacked22:03
ubuntu-mateim new here22:04
TheNH813k1l: Will do.22:04
queskergrep fetchmail /etc/shadow maybe22:04
azizLIGHTBashing-om: ok, let me try22:04
weaksaucequesker it's in there22:04
queskerstrange22:04
azizLIGHTBashing-om: i wanna keep the current one and the very first one22:04
dannyLpzk1l: How can I see if XFCE use .desktop files?22:04
\9dannyLpz: everything uses .desktop files22:05
weaksaucealso, i am getting a `I have no name!` on my command line from my user account22:05
queskerwhen was the last time /etc/passwd changed?22:05
azizLIGHTBashing-om: so linux-headers-3.13.0-36 and 3.13.0-101-generic22:05
geniij4f-shredder__: If you go to https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Main_Page and look up Atheros or Qualcomm Atheros, then from the next page abgn capable chipsets, at the right of that page are links labelled like "8 adapters" which you can follow to find out what products contain those chips.22:05
queskeryeah you have issues.  can you touch a file?22:05
queskerdisk is hosed22:05
dannyLpz\9 16:39 < k1l> dannyLpz: does the xfce use .desktop files? look if there is the wrong path22:05
j4f-shredder__if I buy a non wifi pci ethernet, can I choose any board?22:05
weaksaucequesker yeah it was hacked22:05
queskerhaha22:06
TheNH813weaksauce: Sounds like you might need to reinstall the OS.22:06
j4f-shredder__cause those boards are really expensive here22:06
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TheNH813k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24049191/22:06
TheNH813Here's the paste22:06
weaksaucepasswd was modified yesterday by zimbra22:06
\9maybe they used the dirty c0w exploit22:06
OerHeksweaksauce, you won't get serious support on that, backup and reinstall a supported ubuntu.22:06
queskersorry but I agree with that22:06
k1lTheNH813: no error there22:06
\9weaksauce: but yeah it's game over now22:06
TheNH813k1l: Yup, looks like a normal upgrade to me.22:07
geniij4f-shredder__: Pretty much any ethernet or wifi card with an Atheros chipset will work under linux fine22:07
weaksauceI assume it's been hacked as zimbra shouldn't have any business in there22:07
TheNH813weaksauce: Sounds like you have no option but to reinstall and upgrade then.22:07
weaksaucesuppose so.22:07
dannyLpzI install Dropbox in XFCE, and now, when open "nautilus" showme the path: $HOME/.dropbox-work22:07
TheNH813weaksauce: As reinstalling 10.04 will not go well, with the repos being offline.22:08
ZythyrHi. I am installing Ubuntu 16 on a thin client desktop SSD. This desktop as onl 2GB RAM. Would adding a SWAP space help improve the speed? HOw much space should I allocate for SWAP?22:08
bekksZythyr: No.22:08
bekksZythyr: And allocate as much swap as your physical RAM, if you want to use suspend to disk.22:08
\9Zythyr: swap space does not improve speed, it adds "emergency memory" in case you run out of RAM22:08
k1lZythyr: swap is slower than ram. it will not improve speed. it will just keep the system going and not kill apps to free ram again.22:09
ZythyrOhhh okay so its only for emergency22:09
ZythyrBecause its a SSD drive, isn't it possible to use the SWAP as a way to extend RAM?22:10
k1ldannyLpz: its either ~/.local/share/applications or /usr/share/applications where the .desktop files are22:10
TheNH813k1l: https://s6.postimg.org/lghaxkk35/Screenshot_from_2017_02_22_16_07_12.png22:10
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: Correct . we intend to keep the current and one under kernels . remind me again of the booting kernel ( uname -r ) .22:10
k1lZythyr: even ssds are a lot slower than ram.22:10
TheNH813This pops up every few hours.22:10
\9Zythyr: even SSD speeds pale in comparison to RAM22:10
azizLIGHTBashing-om: 3.13.0-101-generic22:10
k1lZythyr: you can only add more ram if you want to maintain speed while using more ram.22:10
TheNH813I even used ppa-purge to remove everything, yet it's still there.22:11
azizLIGHTalso want to keep 3.13.0-37.6422:11
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: K on the current boot . did removing all those old headers complete with no errors ?22:11
ZythyrI read online that SWAP parititon should be 2x the physical RAM. WHat if I do larger swap space? Is it hurtful?22:12
azizLIGHTim about to do it Bashing-om . just checking something22:12
k1lTheNH813: even after reboot?22:12
TheNH813Yup.22:12
\9Zythyr: using larger swap than that is just waste22:12
JJ_298034Anyone got any tips for adjust mousewheel scroll speed? I've tried imwheel without noticable effect (no noticeable difference between 1 and 3, set it to 100 just to see if it was working - It was!;)22:12
yobagme_Zythyr: Its not harmful, but you're wasting space22:12
k1lZythyr: that is an old myth, same size as ram due to using suspend.22:12
ZythyrOhhh okay. Thank you. I have plenty of space on the SSD. Now I can partition accordinaly22:13
azizLIGHTBashing-om: how come the command is only for headers? what about image, and signed-image22:13
azizLIGHTBashing-om: and also image-extra22:13
darsparx_k1l: well I obviously don't know what I'm doing, I just did the port forwarding on the router and still can't get connected >_<22:13
MarkB2NVidia drivers... again.  But this driver (305 from their web site) installed and came up with only one problem: It's a two screen system.. and it's got the displays swapped.22:14
azizLIGHTBashing-om: a few errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24049283/22:15
weaksaucewhere is pam configured?22:15
MarkB2I've tried System Settings --> Display and moving swapping the position.  Applied.. and both displays flash for a bit.. then there's a couple of corrupted screens.  I can regain control by turning off lightdm.. but has anyone a solution for swapping left-for-right?22:16
icyjughow could i add ~/bin to path?22:16
icyjugor any folder22:16
arasbmI am running into a very strange touch ghosting problem with a brand new spin5 laptop. If anyone wants to help me here, let me know: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/166713322:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1667133 in xorg (Ubuntu) "touch is constantly jumping around" [Undecided,New]22:17
MarkB2icyjug: From the command line:  $ export PATH=path_to_your_bin_directory:${PATH}22:17
azizLIGHTBashing-om: i have /lib/modules/3.13.0-whatever-generic/misc/vmmon.ko and /lib/modules/3.13.0-whatever-generic/misc/vmnet.ko files for each of those dirs. i think these are vmware workstation related22:17
dannyLpzk1l: http://pastebin.com/t9gLqQZv22:17
\9icyjug: create a file called .bash_aliases if one doesn't exist, and add to it: export PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"22:17
\9icyjug: then source ~/.bashrc22:17
icyjugMarkB2: will this preserve the old paths?22:18
MarkB2icyjug: It will... but would need to be done for each shell.  \9's solution is better.22:18
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: Package manager can not deal with old /lib/modules/3.XXX, and neither can I . Any reason why we can not remove these old old files ?22:19
icyjug\9 i didnt understand the source ~/.bashrc part sorry :(22:19
\9icyjug: it's just to make it take effect in the current shell22:19
azizLIGHTBashing-om: why cant we just leave them be22:20
k1licyjug: if you create the bin folder in your home, then just relogin22:20
azizLIGHTwhat if i need them lol22:20
\9icyjug: "source" is a bash command that makes bash read a file as a series of commands as if they were input, and "~/.bashrc" is the local settings file22:20
icyjugah ok it is a command to update things22:20
pavlosicyjug, pop another term and type, echo $PATH ... you will see the ~/bin22:20
\9icyjug: you can just restart the terminal instead if you want22:20
k1ldannyLpz:  look into the nautulis files. the org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop file, if there is the wrong path.22:21
icyjugpavlos so nice :D22:21
icyjug\9 what about the .bash_aliases file, do i have to add it anywhere?22:22
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: Well . while you can leave them it breaks the package manager . and with them left in place I do not know how to deal with it either . Broke bad enough as is . and I can anticipate breaking the package manager even more before we can fix it .22:22
icyjugmaybe a reference in the .bashrc?22:22
azizLIGHToh22:23
azizLIGHTmaybe we stop lol22:23
pavlosicyjug, .bashrc will look for .bash_aliases and if present, it will source it22:23
icyjugpavlos oh well..22:24
Chicken_Wraphey22:24
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: Your system, your effort, your goals ---- your call as to what to do , all I can do is give my best advise .22:24
dannyLpzNo have a path, have Keywords, Exec, Icon, Terminal, Type, DBusActivatable, StartupNotify, Categories, MimeType and X-Gnome22:25
TheNH813Well, I went through my sources and imported apt keys and removed the things I don't need, then erased everything in /var/cache/apt, and ran apt-get update (yes, I backed the folder up first). So far, the message hasn't appeared. I'm gonna try logging out and back in to see if it appears now.22:26
dannyLpzBTW, Nautilus don save the changes, I mean, if I configure view type list, in the next start, show name list.22:27
weaksaucewhat would cause my id to not show up on the command line? I have no name!@<server>:~$22:29
weaksauceecho $USER is the correct user22:29
chocolaterobotis there still a ubuntu flavor that works on Anroid tablets?22:31
transhuman_hi is for apache is the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled directory supposed to be all symlinks to mods-available similar to sites-enabled/sites-available?22:31
chocolaterobotby that i mean: touchscreen22:31
nacctranshuman_: iirc, yes22:31
nacctranshuman_: i mean, that's a choice, and the default in ubuntu22:31
weaksaucewhere does    ` \u     the username of the current user` get set?22:32
weaksauceif not $USER22:32
weaksaucefor the PS122:32
TheNH813k1l: Well, I think that fixed it. Just needed to manually erase the apt cache.22:32
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k1lTheNH813: ok22:33
tangled_zhi, i accidentally installed ubuntu without network manager22:33
transhuman_nacc its funny I did a  scp and some how I must have missed the option to preserve symlinks cause now its actual files that are copied from mods-available to mods-enabled22:33
tangled_zand now when i plugin the ethernet cable it's not connecting to the internet automatically22:34
TheNH813tangled_z: And I'm guessing you need to connect to the internet?22:34
tangled_zyeah :)22:34
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transhuman_I guess the quickest way to correct it is scp them a second time with the right options22:34
TheNH813Open a terminal, and run "sudo service dhcpd start; sudo dhclient eth0" and that should fix it.22:34
tangled_zTheNH813: Thanks a lot!22:35
TheNH813Replace eth0 with the name of your network adaptor in "iwconfig" if it's not eth0.22:35
pascal_Hi everybody22:36
pascal_small and stupid question22:36
dannyLpzThis is my problem: http://i.imgur.com/5oJqqli.png22:36
pascal_i used to have a program on my machine called screen22:36
pascal_does it stil exists22:36
pascal_i can find some documentation about it but i cant seem to find it anyware22:37
TheNH813tangled_z: Oh, and if the networking service isn't loaded, you might also need "sudo service networking start"22:37
Guest53518Hello22:38
TheNH813tnagled_z: And also, if the first part of the commadn dosent work, try "sudo dhcpd&" instead of "sudo service dhcpd start"22:38
Guest53518I need some help please22:38
TheNH813What do you need help with?22:38
k1lpascal_: "apt policy screen"22:38
tangled_zTheNH813: thanks! I was stuck on the first part, it was telling me that the service is not found22:39
Guest53518I have a chromebook and i installed kde with crouton22:39
LooCfur_k1l, I was about to tell him apt-get install screen, but I haven't used ubuntu in ages. It's not that simple anymore?22:39
Guest53518But when i do startkde22:39
tangled_zTheNH813: it told me now "the command dhcpd can be found in the following packages..." so its's not installed?22:39
TheNH813tangled_z: Hm..... try just the dhclient part.22:39
brainwashweaksauce: it is evaluated by bash. see man bash22:40
pascal_k1l thanks22:40
tangled_zTheNH813: Ok thanks, doing it now22:40
j4f-shredderhey, I just tried the live cd and the wifi adaptor works fine22:40
j4f-shredderhow do I restablish the system?22:41
k1lLooCfur_: apt policy package will tell if the package is installed or not and what version is in what repo, i guess that is what the user wanted to know :)22:41
TheNH813tangled_z: If that doesn't work, I can give you a file containing the necessary .deb packages, if you have a way to copy them onto the system and tell my the OS version.22:41
tangled_zTheNH813: Thanks a lot! It works now :)22:42
TheNH813tangled_z: Make sure to get dhcpd installed, it's what automatically gets an IP address when the ethernet goes live.22:42
TheNH813Then get NetworkManager.22:42
TheNH813If you need it to do anything other then auto config.22:42
SinaMEhello22:42
SinaMEI really need help.22:43
tangled_zTheNH813: Thanks! Will do that now :)22:43
TheNH813SinaME: Yes? Waht's the problem?22:43
SinaMEI followed this tutorial: https://www.linux.com/learn/how-easily-install-ubuntu-chromebook-crouton%2022:43
SinaMEi have kde downloaded22:43
j4f-shredderk1l I did what you said22:43
TheNH813SinaME: What the problem with it then?22:44
j4f-shredderthe wifi adaptor works on the live cd22:44
j4f-shredderhow do I bring the kernel of my installed version to the one on the live cd??22:44
SinaMEwhen i do "startkde" it pops up a window saying "could not start d-bus. can you call qdbus"22:44
j4f-shredderor whatever you had planned for me to do?22:44
SinaMEi read online to fix it i should do "chronos@localhost / $ sudo rm -r -f /usr/local/chroots/precise"22:44
SinaMEbut now when i do startkde it says "No chroots found in /mnt/stateful_partition/crouton/chroots"22:45
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SinaMEthats my problem22:45
TheNH813Hm.... I don't think deleting the chroot is a good idea. That's essentially the OS.22:45
SinaMEhow can i fix it22:46
Zythyr_I followed this guide, hoever i don't have a Remote Desktop option in my Ubuntu 16: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-remote-desktop-builtin-vnc-compatible-dead-easy/22:46
SinaMEanyway to verify integrity of files?22:46
TheNH813SinaME: I'd say removing it, and starting over.22:46
SinaMEhow can i remove it22:46
j4f-shredderI need help please, my wifi adaptor froze the system 16.10 whenever I plugged it in, someone here just told me "check if a 16.10 live cd works with your wifi board and do a chroot", I just verified that works on a live cd, how do I do a "chroot" to restablish the system using this live cd???22:47
TheNH813I'v honestly never used a Chromebook or installed Ubuntu through Crouton.22:47
k1lj4f-shredder: chroot into the installed ubuntu. then run the apt update and apt full-upgrade.22:47
TheNH813SinaME: Maybe ask on the Ubuntu Forums.22:48
j4f-shredderhow do I do that? Im already inside and with wifi22:48
j4f-shredderbut I dont know how to "chroot"22:48
j4f-shredderIm with the live cd22:48
TheNH813jf4-shredder: So, you're trying to install a driver with chroot?22:49
j4f-shredderIm just following instructions, but I need noob instructions22:49
j4f-shredderI dont know what chroot means22:50
SinaMETheNH813: i am trying to re install and it says: http://pastebin.com/XPGLeGCb22:50
j4f-shredderI've stated that several times22:50
j4f-shredder"[19:47] <k1l> j4f-shredder: chroot into the installed ubuntu. then run the apt update and apt full-upgrade."22:50
j4f-shredderI need to know how to do that22:50
k1lj4f-shredder: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure22:50
k1lmake sure sda1 is your / partition22:50
TheNH813j4f-shredder: So, do you know what drive and partition the OS is installed on?22:51
TheNH813I can step you through what k1l linked if you need help?22:51
j4f-shredderno22:52
j4f-shreddersda1 is not22:52
TheNH813Open a command terminal.22:52
j4f-shredderyes22:52
TheNH813Type "sudo blkid"22:52
gimpy649In 16.04, how can I get KDE apps (e.g. konsole) to save their config?  This has been broken by default in ubuntu for years, wondering if there's a known solution22:53
TheNH813j4f-shredder: Paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com and link it.22:53
j4f-shredderpaste.ubuntu.com/2404944422:54
j4f-shredderI have a 256 gb ssd22:54
j4f-shredderand a 1tb Hdd22:55
linuxgeckoi have a pretty broken 15.04 server that i'm trying to get updated to the latest LTS, but it's being a PITA.  it's complaining that there is a problem it can't fix in with installed packages in the software center, and my apt-ese is too rusty to remember how to fix it myself, any suggestions?22:55
nacc!eolupgrade | linuxgecko: are you following this?22:55
ubottulinuxgecko: are you following this?: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades22:55
TheNH813sdb4 seems it may be the Ubuntu partition.22:55
naccTheNH813: would be my guess as well22:56
j4f-shredderanyway to verify the size22:56
k1llinuxgecko: are you sure its 15.04?22:56
TheNH813jf4-shredder: type "sudo mkdir /media/ubuntumount"22:56
TheNH813jf4-shredder: then "sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /media/ubuntumount"22:56
k1llinuxgecko: can you put the output onto paste.ubuntu.com and link it here?22:56
TheNH813And see if it looks like a Linux root partition.22:56
naccj4f-shredder: `lsblk`22:56
j4f-shredderIm in gparted22:57
j4f-shredderI can see that the sdb4 is the partition22:57
j4f-shredderubuntu is on ext422:57
TheNH813Is it the OS partition then? Ok, I'l tell you how to chroot now.22:57
linuxgeckothe GDM prompt says ubuntu 15.04, so pretty darn sure.22:57
TheNH813Open a terminal/22:58
TheNH813type sudo -i22:58
j4f-shredderyes22:58
linuxgeckok1l: i'm not getting CLI output to paste yet..22:58
TheNH813j4f-shredder: Then "mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt"22:58
j4f-shredderdone22:58
TheNH813j4f-shredder: "mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev"22:59
k1llinuxgecko: then what are you doing there?22:59
linuxgeckonacc:  not yet, i am pretty out of touch with maintaining ubuntu.   i will be soon22:59
j4f-shredderI cant see the partition mounted on the system explorer22:59
j4f-shredderis that normal?22:59
k1llinuxgecko: "lsb_release -sd" to tell for sure what ubuntu that is22:59
TheNH813j4f-shredder: "mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc"22:59
TheNH813j4f-shredder: "mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys"22:59
TheNH813j4f-shredder: "chroot /mnt"23:00
TheNH813j4f-shredder: And now, it should be chrooted.23:00
TheNH813Which means anything you do int he command terminal, happends to the installation, and not the livecd.23:00
linuxgeckok1l: i wanted to make sure i had my system up to snuff BEFORE the EOL upgrade to something modern,  so i opened the software center in the gui, and it said there were issues with installed packages, gave me a repair button, i pushed it,  and it failed to complete the repair task.23:00
j4f-shredderok23:01
j4f-shredderso now23:01
j4f-shredderwhich commands should I run?23:01
linuxgeckok1l: it has yet to give me more verbose info, so i can start "really" solving the issue23:01
TheNH813j4f-shredder: Which issue were you trying to fix using chroot?23:01
TheNH813Packages? Drivers?23:02
k1llinuxgecko: is it still running?23:02
naccj4f-shredder: `apt update; apt full-upgrade`23:02
linuxgeckok1l:  the repair?   sorta?   i cycles back to telling me there is a problem, and prompts me to hit the repair button, or cancel23:02
k1lcancel it.23:03
k1lthe repos are down, so it cant load anything23:03
j4f-shredderit wont let me23:03
j4f-shredderit says it cant resolve23:03
j4f-shredderthe downloads23:03
j4f-shredderits like when you dont have internet23:03
TheNH813Try connecting a ethernet cable instead of using wireless if possible.23:04
j4f-shredderthe ethernet board is burnt23:04
k1lTheNH813: j4f-shredder you need to set nameservers23:04
j4f-shredderI have internet on the live cd23:04
naccj4f-shredder: did you read the wiki page k1l said?23:05
j4f-shreddershould I add those two ips with nano?23:05
k1lj4f-shredder: that doesnt matter for the chroot23:05
TheNH813Yes. Nano can be used to add those.23:05
j4f-shredderor I can set them on the terminal?23:06
j4f-shreddergood23:06
j4f-shreddernow it seems to be connecting23:06
ethanBoi23:07
ethananyone there23:07
TheNH813I never knew that chroots could have dns issues. That's very interesting. Thanks for the info k1l. I23:07
j4f-shredderif this doesnt work23:07
TheNH813ethan: Yes?23:07
j4f-shreddershould I reinstall ubuntu to this live cd?23:07
ethanend your life23:07
ethani need a daddy please23:08
TheNH813ethan: Please leave and stop spamming. This IRC is for Ubuntu support.23:08
uxfiethan  hello23:08
k1llinuxgecko: then run "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" since there is no other way to upgrade to 15.10. after that run the regular "sudo do-release-upgrade" to get to 16.0423:08
j4f-shredderso, this is what you generally do when you have a problem?23:09
TheNH813j4f-shredder: You could try that if this doesn't work, yes.23:09
j4f-shredderchroot23:09
j4f-shredderto the installation with a live cd?23:09
TheNH813Yes, it can fix quite a few problems.23:09
k1lj4f-shredder: yes. then run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"23:09
j4f-shredderit would be nice for ubuntu to have a cloud service so you can recover all your stuff when reinstalling23:10
pavlosis it still upgrading?23:10
TheNH813j4f-shredder: Or you can reinstall it if it's too much trouble to sort out. But that's a last resort method, as most of the time it's easier to fix things in chroot the reinstall everything.23:10
j4f-shredderok23:10
j4f-shredderit has ended23:10
j4f-shreddershould I reboot now?23:10
TheNH813j4f-shredder: Which issue were you trying to solve, just a apt issue, or is they anything else that needs fixing?23:11
j4f-shredderno, just the wifi freezing the OS23:11
k1lj4f-shredder: copy all the output to paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here23:11
jaithi have a problem where apache is creating files in a directory but these files are 644 instead of 66423:11
j4f-shredderwhere should I run the "apt issue"??23:12
j4f-shredderon the chroot?23:12
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jaitham I correct in understanding that when apache creates files in some directory that the rwx settings of these files is determined by some umask value?23:12
TheNH813j4f-shredder: Huh?23:12
j4f-shredderyou said to paste the output of apt issue23:12
k1lj4f-shredder: on the chroot of course.23:12
naccj4f-shredder: yes, you should logout of the chroot (exit), umount the disk and reboot23:12
j4f-shredderbut which command23:12
naccj4f-shredder: it wasn't a ommand23:13
naccTheNH813: j4f-shredder had a wifi problem23:13
naccTheNH813: and their system was not updating23:13
TheNH813nacc: Ah, ok.23:13
j4f-shredderhow do I unmount23:13
naccTheNH813: as they had no network without the wifi23:13
TheNH813umount /mnt23:13
naccj4f-shredder: outside the chroot, `umount /mnt`23:13
j4f-shreddertarget is busy23:14
j4f-shredderit says23:14
TheNH813Yeah, exit the chroot terminal, open a new one, and do "sudo umount /mnt"23:14
TheNH813Make sure the chroot is exited first, or it's "in use".23:14
j4f-shredderyes23:14
j4f-shredderI cn see ubuntu@ubuntu23:14
TheNH813Then type "sudo umount /mnt"23:15
j4f-shredderwhat happens if I reboot without unmounting?23:16
TheNH813It could potentially cause the same thing as unplugging a flash drive wihtotu ejecting.23:16
TheNH813Filesystem corruption/errors.23:16
TheNH813j4f-shredder: If that's not working, type "sudo lsof /mnt" to see what's using it.23:16
j4f-shredderyes, I'm having trouble opening the terminal on the live cd23:17
j4f-shredderit's a little slow23:17
wedgieshutting down or rebooting should sync all disks. That is what happens to your regular hard drives every time you do so.23:17
TheNH813wedgie: It should, but generally unmounting a chroot is an extra precaution taken. IF it won't unmount, then yeah, just try rebooting.23:18
j4f-shredderI pressed ctrl alt esc to try yto go to the other terminal and now Im stuck there23:18
j4f-shredderhow do I get back to the gui23:18
TheNH813CTRL+ALT+F723:18
j4f-shreddercause the terminal is taking forever23:18
j4f-shredderto open23:19
j4f-shredderI might just reboot and see what happens23:19
azizLIGHT!kernel23:19
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)23:19
TheNH813j4f-shredder: Just reboot then if it's having issues.23:19
azizLIGHT!backport23:19
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging23:19
pavlosand remove the live cd23:19
azizLIGHThow do i get the backported kernels23:19
naccazizLIGHT: what backported kernels? do you mean the hwe stack?23:20
azizLIGHTi think so23:20
naccazizLIGHT: are you on 16.04?23:20
azizLIGHTim on 14.04 and want new kernel23:20
naccazizLIGHT: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack23:20
azizLIGHTi want my xbox one controller to work23:20
k1l!hwe | azizLIGHT23:21
ubottuazizLIGHT: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack23:21
j4f-shredderit didnt work23:21
j4f-shredderI will just save my work and reinstall23:21
j4f-shredderfor some reason I have like 6 entrances result of a UEFI installation23:21
j4f-shredderwindows 7/ubuntu23:21
j4f-shredderI will just wipe windows23:21
j4f-shredderand install ubuntu on the whole disk23:22
jaithif apache is creating new files in some directory with 644 perms, but i want 664 perms, can I change a setting for that directory so that all files created in it are 664? Or does umask only apply to apache process itself?23:22
TheNH813j4f-shredder: If you're gonna do that, make sure you don't forget to backup everything, and good luck.23:22
j4f-shredderI think I might have done all the chroot on the wrong partition cause I didn't see the unit mounter on the explorer23:22
yobagme_j4f-shredder: Is there any reason why you're using 16.10? Personally I would recommend reinstalling to 16.04 LTS unless theres something in 16.10 you absolutely need23:22
j4f-shredderI typed what you said23:22
j4f-shredderI will do that23:23
TheNH813Also, make sure "additional software and drivers" is checked during the Ubuntu install. It might fix the WiFi problem.23:23
j4f-shredderjust out of curiosit23:23
j4f-shreddery23:23
j4f-shredderwhen I was doing the mount23:23
j4f-shreddershould I have seen the unit mounted on nautilus?23:23
naccjaith: umask is a per-process thing23:23
j4f-shreddercause it wasnt there23:23
j4f-shredderit was another 32 gb partition23:24
j4f-shredderwhich was the windows one23:24
j4f-shredderubuntu was on ext423:24
pavlossdb4 was ext4 and sdb5 was swap23:24
j4f-shredderbut should I have seen that partition on nautilus?23:25
TheNH813Did you run nautilus as root?23:25
TheNH813And manually open /mnt?23:25
TheNH813Otherwise, it won't appear int he list of drives.23:25
j4f-shredderoohh ok23:25
j4f-shredderthen it really didint work23:25
j4f-shreddersuch a shame23:25
number28Anyone have any idea why my wireless adapter continutes to change from wlan 1 to it's hardware name? (wlx048d388a2029)23:27
number28[ 4453.474704] rtl8192cu 1-1:1.0 wlx048d388a2029: renamed from wlan123:27
azizLIGHTThe following packages have been kept back: kodi kodi-bin libva1 libva1:i386 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-signed-generic linux-signed-image-generic23:27
TheNH813number28: That's odd. Is it causing any issues?23:27
azizLIGHTwhy is this happening23:27
wedgieazizLIGHT: apt-get dist-upgrade23:27
TheNH813number28: Otherwise, I'd just say it's a drivers quirk.23:28
number28TheNH813: Negative, it does it to two different adapters. It's just a pain in the ass to type the whole thing being its like 14 characters23:28
number28TheNH813: Do i use modprobe to address the issue?23:28
wedgieazizLIGHT: happens when the upgrade requires some packages to be uninstalled or new ones to be installed23:28
naccnumber28: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/23:28
TheNH813number28: Hm... let me check something.23:28
naccnumber28: you can pass a kernel parameter if you don't want it23:28
azizLIGHTwill this move me from some 14.04.x to another 14.04.y ?23:28
Bashing-omnumber28: 16.04 ? https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ ??23:28
naccnumber28: but generally the device name doesn't matter to you as the end user23:28
naccnumber28: in what context do you have to type it out so often?23:29
yobagme_azizLIGHT: Yes, if you're on 14.04.2 and the latest is 14.04.5, dist-upgrade will upgrade you to the latest23:29
azizLIGHThow do i check which 14.04 im on23:29
TheNH813Well, I have to leave, sorry. I'l let nacc handle this, they seem to have a better idea of the network names anyway.23:30
naccyobagme_: that's not entirely true23:30
yobagme_nacc:No? That's how I always move up a point release23:30
naccyobagme_: 14.04.2 and 14.04.5 aren't different in and of themselves, they are snapshots of 14.04 at different points23:30
number28nacc: packet sniffing. Changing the mode and turning it off and on and so on23:30
naccyobagme_: if you want the corresponding HWE stack, that's a different statement23:30
number28Bashing-om: 16.1023:30
naccyobagme_: but you can run the base 14.04.1 kernel and still be on 14.04.5 aiui23:31
azizLIGHTshould i do dist-upgrade before i do hwe stack kernel23:31
azizLIGHTor do hwe stack kernel directly23:31
naccyobagme_: it's rather confusing, tbh :)23:31
number28nacc: I appreciate the link btw23:31
yobagme_nacc: ahh, you're right.23:31
naccyobagme_: so it's not that what you said was wrong, it's just implying that you're changing releases or anything.23:31
naccyobagme_: so it's easier to talk about 'are you up to date on 14.04' and then ask 'what kernel are you on'23:32
yobagme_nacc: yeah, I worded that wrong. not what I meant, just that he would be moving up a minor release23:32
naccyobagme_: not a big deal, but you've been helpful so far, so wanted to encourage you to keep being so :)23:33
azizLIGHTwhat version of kernel will i get if i install hwe stack kernel, if im on 14.04 (how do i check which snapshot im on? 14.04.3? 14.04.4? 14.04.5?)23:33
yobagme_nacc: danke :) ubuntu upgrades can be quirky like that.23:33
naccnumber28: i would suggest those tools should have shell completions for the right things, then -- but yeah, you can pass 'net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0' if you don't want the feature on23:34
wedgieyou'll get 4.4.023:34
azizLIGHTwedgie: should i do dist-upgrade before getting hwe stack23:34
number28nacc: Much appreciasted23:34
number28nacc: Appreciated* What do you mean by 'shell completions'?23:35
pavlosazizLIGHT, my 14.04.5 has the -64 kernel23:35
naccazizLIGHT: the level of 14.04 you are on should be emitted by `lsb_release -a`. If you've been doing regular `apt update; apt full-upgrade` (or the equivalent apt-get command, if apt isn't on trusty), then you're on 14.04.523:35
azizLIGHTwedgie: theres a kernel held back in upgrades: linux-image-3.13.0-110-generic ... im currently on 3.13.0-101-generic23:35
naccnumber28: bash can tab complete based upon specific rules; applications can specify what should be allowed to tab complete (so then you'd do something 'program to run <tab>' and it'd put in the names of network devices, e.g.23:36
azizLIGHTit says im on Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS23:36
wedgieazizLIGHT: then you haven't upgraded the HWE stack23:36
wedgie!hwe | azizLIGHT23:37
ubottuazizLIGHT: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack23:37
number28nacc: Yeah, I thought of that, however it doesn't work with the biosdevname23:37
naccazizLIGHT: so that's the (iirc) 14.04.1 hwe kernel -- you can stay on that if you want. Or you can install the hwe stack as wedgie said.23:37
azizLIGHTi have not, im asking if i should do dist-upgrade and get the kernel linux-image-3.13.0-110-generic (im currently on 3.13.0-101-generic on 14.04.5 LTS) before doing the HWE stack upgrade. or should i just go directly to hwe stack23:37
number28nacc: This page something about some distributions allowing the nameing of your own interfaces.. do you know if Ubuntu allows for that?23:38
naccnumber28: you can probably do it via udev rules23:38
wedgieazizLIGHT: not sure it matters, but if it were me I think i'd have it fully up to date before installing the HWE stack. But again, probably doesn't matter23:38
number28nacc: I'm like halfway into my ubuntu book.. haven't gotten to udev yet.23:39
number28nacc: Suppose i'll look for it.23:39
azizLIGHTok, when i instal lthe HWE stack, its like having another kernel in grub entries right? i can always revert back to 3.13.0-101-generic or older ones from the grub menu in case somethign doesnt work?23:39
number28nacc: Oh.. so one last thing, this biosdev name is a new systemd feature?23:39
McJuicydoes anyone else have any issues where the focused app will change to an unfocused app sometimes? I'm using gnome323:40
McJuicybecomes annoying because it will switch mid typing and I'll end up adding characters to some code23:41
lotuspsychjeMcJuicy: perhaps the #ubuntu-gnome guys might also know?23:41
McJuicyok cool - I'll check there. Was wondering if that might be a unity thing as well23:41
McJuicybtw, why did ubuntu decide to go with unity over gnome?23:43
lotuspsychjeMcJuicy: perhaps a screenshot might be also usefull for your issue23:43
McJuicyfor sure - hard to screenshot that behavior, maybe I can screen cap it23:44
lotuspsychjeMcJuicy: gnome and unity exist both seperate23:44
McJuicyyea but I remember the good ol days when it shipped with gnome223:44
McJuicylife was much simpler back then - I was a young lad living with my parents. Long term support had just come out23:45
lotuspsychjeMcJuicy: think gnome has a gnome classic, and unity will have a lowFX mode in future versions23:45
OerHeks!flavor23:45
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. The current list is: !Edubuntu, !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, Ubuntu !Kylin, !Lubuntu, !Mythbuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, !Xubuntu, and Ubuntu !MATE23:45
OerHeksmate for gnome 2-ish23:45
Zythyr_Need help. I installed Ubuntu 16. I configured "Desktop Sharing Preferences". However, in my Windows PC, I am unable to connect to my unbuntu using TightVNC. I get error: No security types supported.23:45
McJuicylotuspsychje - got it, currently using the classic version. Just reminiscing ;)23:46
lotuspsychjeZythyr_: be carefull with vnc, might be a security risk23:46
McJuicyappreciate all the help you all give23:46
Zythyr_lotuspsychje Then what do I use for remote desktop?23:46
lotuspsychje!vnc | Zythyr_ or choose ssh?23:46
ubottuZythyr_ or choose ssh?: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX23:46
lotuspsychjeMcJuicy: welcome mate23:46
lotuspsychjeZythyr_: what will be your endgoal with the remote sessions?23:47
yobagme_Zythyr_: another option is x2go. uses ssh to render your entire x session remotely to another computer, sound and all. i used it all the time from work to access my home network23:47
Zythyr_lotuspsychje I need to remote desktop into the Ubuntu to configure it using the GUI because the Ubuntu will not have a keyboard or mouse.23:48
pavlosZythyr_, I use nomachine to access linux/windows servers23:50
Zythyr_Thanks guys for the info. I'll look into the VNC over SSH23:50
lotuspsychjeZythyr_: try ssh to control your remote desktop, or what yobagme_ suggests, or for one time use perhaps teamviewer23:50
Zythyr_Good point23:51
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Zythyr_Thank u guys :)23:51
lotuspsychjeZythyr_: if your remote desktop will be 24/7 try also hardening23:51
Zythyr_hardening?23:52
lotuspsychjeZythyr_: if you use an ssh server, fail2ban for the bruteforce protection, vnc also gets hammered daily23:52
yobagme_Zythyr_: you can enable ssh keys instead of username/password if you decide to go the ssh route. much more secure than using a standard password23:53
BlackVovan228Hey guys23:54
Zythyr_yes i was going to configure the ssh keys23:56
yobagme_BlackVovan228: hello23:56
mellowmaroonHi, am I able to ask about Ubuntu Gnome here? Is it considered an official derivative?23:58
lotuspsychjemellowmaroon: yes23:58
mellowmaroonCool, thanks.23:59
BlackVovan228yobagme_: Trakhal tvojuy mat'23:59
yobagme_mellowmaroon: sure. its the one i use23:59
lotuspsychjemellowmaroon: you can also visit # ubuntu-gnome for more specific questions also23:59
mellowmaroonAwesome. So, I was having some trouble updating my laptop (same flavor).23:59

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