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bingbongIs there a way to open an encrypted linux partition without booting into it? I am pretty sure I have a virus on the OS and do not want to turn it on again just so my files can get encrypted.00:06
bingbongencrypted by a cryptolocker I mean00:06
bingbongthe system is encrypted with linux encryption, I want to avoid the virus encrypting my files*00:07
wedgiebingbong: you can boot a livecd. And yes, you should be able to decrypt the files assuming you know the key00:07
cfhowlettbingbong, pretty sure you can boot from a USB, mount the suspect part.  of course, you will still need to run the unencrypt command to open00:07
bingbongI am on a live usb rn and I know the password and decryption key00:07
bingbonghow do I open it?00:07
cfhowlettbingbong, depends on your encryption program, I suspect00:08
bingbongI want to just copy all the files to a second hard drive I plugged in, shred the ssd and hdd and reinstall my os's00:08
bingbongit is just the default linux partition encryption00:08
bingbongwhen you set up an os00:08
wedgieecryptfs-recover-private00:08
bingbongthat will only decrypt, not let anything run, correct?00:09
bingbongdo I just run that on the whole partition?00:09
wedgieit'll mount the partition. Don't see any reason that will cause it to run anything from the partition00:09
bingbongOk one more question sorry, there are 3 partitions: 1 boot partition I think, then 2 partitions that are both 223.1G. One is extended type, one is Linux type. Which one do I mount? The whole thing is 223g00:10
wedgiebingbong: is this just an encrypted home directory?00:11
bingbongNo it is an encrypted partition with an encrypted home directory inside00:11
wedgiei think ecryptfs-recover-private will attempt to autodiscover it00:11
bingbongShould I run that on the extended partition or the linux one though?00:12
bingbongthey're both in the same place somehow, idk if it is just part of the linux encryption schema00:12
wedgiedoesn't matter where. It'll try to find any encrypted partiton and prompt if you want to recover that one00:12
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mnichieAfter rebooting the other day, I am no longer to boot/decrypt my luks disk.  I can find and view the luks header with cryptsetup, but the password that I have been using for over a year no longer works with it.  Anybody have *any* ideas?00:21
mnichieI have run out of things to try00:21
macgyver1so I formatted again the ssd disk00:22
macgyver1can I install ubuntu there?00:22
macgyver1ok guys I reboot again00:24
macgyver1I come back later00:24
Bashing-ommacgyver1: Might be best to show the cjannel in a pastebin what you are working pith - ' sudo parted -l '00:24
compdocyou can install on an ssd, yes00:24
Oderushi! having issues installing a package and looking for assistance. disconnected for a second there but im back so i apologize if you replied already. here's the output. https://paste.ubuntu.com/24179605/00:28
bingbongok I have mounted the encrypted partition, now how do I get into the home folder?00:29
dustext4 should be sometimes defragmented with sudo e4defrag -v /path/to/myfiles00:29
duston a traditional hdd00:30
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Oderusdust: only the home directory or does the whole partition need it00:31
__cheese_sweatsis there an (relatively simple) way of restricting logins to a single session (ie, expiring existing sessions upon login?) using the Guard library with symf 3.2 ?00:32
__cheese_sweatsI'm about to write a hacky solution directly scanning memcached but wondering if there's a way of doing this in the framework00:32
cfhowlett__cheese_sweats, sounds like a guest login session00:32
dustespecially home Oderus but i do sudo e4defrag -v / so the whole root00:33
Oderusdust: is there any negative side effects to this? never heard of defragging in linux before00:33
dusthttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/wily/man8/e4defrag.8.html00:34
Oderusdust: thanks, interesting. :)00:35
dustnp urw :)00:36
Goose_i set up windows sharing on my 16.04 install and when I go to windows network I can get in but then I cant get in to the drive folders im pretty sure i set up access and everything from both computers00:36
DatzHi, I'm streaming music (Pandora) and I keep getting these hiccups in the audio every so often. Running 16.04.2. What can I look into?00:37
DatzGoose_: you set up Samba?00:38
elisa871can you please have a look at my labmate question and if possible please answer it over SO? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42799086/perf-undefined-symbol-gcc-personality-v0-matlab00:38
Oderusi! having issues installing a package and looking for assistance. here's the output. https://paste.ubuntu.com/24179605/00:39
Goose_no but i just realized00:39
on2pkHi!  I can't seem to access the ubuntu update servers :(00:39
Goose_that the drive im sharing00:39
Goose_is f and i can get in00:39
Goose_so problem is solved00:39
Goose_and i think i did install samba it gets prompted when you turn on sharing right00:39
DatzOk00:39
Bashing-omOderus: OerHeks :: Bug ?? see: ' apt show openjdk-9-jdk ' . It list as a dependency "openjdk-9-jdk-headless (= 9~b114-0ubuntu1)" .00:40
Goose_anyways theres a bunch of folders with a $  at the end representing my drives and i cant get into those but those arent shared from my windows comp anyway00:40
on2pkunfortunately, apt seems to hang trying to connect to the archive servers00:40
DatzOderus: It almost looks like there's a problem with the package, but I'm not expert.00:41
DatzWhat they said^00:41
Oderusthank you datz, Bashing-om00:42
Bashing-omOderus: Let's see if we can get some of the more knowledgeable peoples' eyes on this . Looks to me a packaging error .00:43
OderusBashing-om: that would be great hehe. thank you for looking at it.00:43
yunyanghttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/42799086/perf-undefined-symbol-gcc-personality-v0-matlab please look at my question?00:46
Bashing-omOderus: We get some better eyes on this soonest .00:47
elisa871my labmate yunyang editted his question, please have a look and suggest solutions if possible https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42799086/perf-undefined-symbol-gcc-personality-v0-matlab#4279908600:56
cfhowlett!patience } elisa871,00:57
ubottucfhowlett: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:57
cfhowlett!patience | elisa871,00:57
ubottuelisa871,: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/00:57
OderusBashing-om: maybe if I add the ppa for that package a newer version will work. i dunno.00:59
Bashing-omOderus: Hold off on doing anything , "  nacc> Bashing-om: openjdk-9 probably shouldn't be used by anyoneyet (iirc, it's still beta): . checking Maybe tomorrow ?01:00
OderusBashing-om: ok will do. it's a dependancy for android-studio01:01
Bashing-omOderus: There is the #android-studio channel, might get a quicker response there ? Maybe android specific ?01:06
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DatzHi, I'm having skips of hiccups while streaming audio with firefox, what should I try?01:18
Datzor*01:18
bimbohey looking for help with understanding something probally very simple, im trying to install rssi on an motorola via terminal in ubuntu using         http://www.linuxx.eu/2014/09/osmocombb-hardware-and-software-setup.html     but am unsure where i should be at the start it explains to create a gnuarm the src within but after that do i return to original user directory or are they each instaled downwards within each other ?if you undert01:23
bimbohey looking for help with understanding something probally very simple, im trying to install rssi on an motorola via terminal in ubuntu using         http://www.linuxx.eu/2014/09/osmocombb-hardware-and-software-setup.html     but am unsure where i should be at the start it explains to create a gnuarm the src within but after that do i return to original user directory or are they each instaled downwards within each other ?if you undert01:32
S0baitHi, My Rpi stopped responding, I rebooted it. I can no longer ssh. It seems to be stuck. I used the verbose settings and have outputted the log here, can someone help me out? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1518c8bef9fedb80f42f68bfe7012b6501:46
kk4ewtS0bait, so have you been shutting it down or just pulling the plug01:48
S0baitpull plug01:49
S0baitit seems to have moved a bit01:50
S0baitI can ping it just fine, I bet if I attach monitor and other peripherals i can go ahead and connect but I need ssh...01:50
kk4ewtso you have corrupted the fs01:51
kk4ewtrebuild the SD card01:51
S0baiterm01:51
S0baitit stopped working WHILE I was on it01:51
S0baitso the unplug thing dont make sense :S01:51
S0baitHECK it is even running a server on it right now, which I can see from my browser. Everything is workng but suddenly it stopped responding and now ssh is not working, it did move past that dialogue I pasted above just now though.01:52
bingbongI mounted my ubuntu directory, decrypted it and unlocked the home directory. How do I get into it? I see Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop but it doesn't do anything, just opens a window that closes right away. Tried gksu nautilus but no gksu and I can't install it. Whatdo?02:01
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wedgiebingbong: the command should have output where it mounted. probably somewhere in /tmp02:06
bingbongI went there but I can not cd into it02:06
bingbongI can open it in terminal, permission denied02:06
bingbongcan't*02:06
wedgieuse sudo to view it. It's owned by a different user, probably02:06
wedgie''sudo -i'' will get you a root shell you can use to browse02:07
bingbongwedgie: tried that just now, shows no files in the directory.02:08
* wedgie shrugs02:08
bingbongWhen I navigate there in the gui explorer I can see home folder with "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop" inside and "readme.txt" that says to run ecryptfs-mount-private but that also said permission denied02:08
bingbongerr no actually02:08
bingbongit said the thing was setup incorrectly02:08
wedgieneed to run ecrypt as root02:09
bingbongwedgie: I did that. If I run in recovery mode will the virus still be able to run?02:14
bingbongIs there some way to run the system on like bare bones version?02:14
bingbongI just need to copy the home folder to a hard drive02:14
bingbongbut it may take like 30 minutes02:14
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wedgiebingbong: I suspect that it is safe enough. But if you're really worried you can mount the hard drive as read only02:17
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vieMy microphone sounds crystal clear from alsa but distorted in pulseaudio. Any ideas on how to fix?02:22
theguy323Hey, i have an issue on a server i manage. on a vm test system it works fine. I need to install libcurl4-gnutls-dev:i386 heres the log from it on ubuntu server 16.04 https://hastebin.com/wiwifexeho.sql02:24
theguy323meanwhile on a vps running sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386; sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install mailutils postfix curl wget file bzip2 gzip unzip bsdmainutils python util-linux tmux lib32gcc1 libstdc++6 libstdc++6:i386 libcurl4-gnutls-dev:i386 results in no errors and everything working fine02:25
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hereticianAnyone here familiar with adding FallbackResource and DirectoryIndex to my vhost on Ubuntu so this http://144.217.165.206/ default page will go to index.php or whatever so I can use word press? I have already deleted index.html but for some reason it is still redirecting to there and I foudn out it is because I need to edit the vhost. I will happily give someone access to my server to get it02:50
hereticianquickly done. And if solicitation is allowed, I need and can pay for a lot more than that.02:50
heretician#wordpress sent me to #httpd and #httpd told me I need to edit my vhost and add two directories (DirectoryIndex and FallbackResource) so that I can use WordPress02:51
liyugehello02:58
Quantikushi02:59
PipeItToDevNullHi!02:59
elricsfateWhere do you guys prefer to keep binaries that are stored within directories? Examples include ansible which is ansible/bin03:15
elricsfateDo you just slap it in ~/bin/ansible and then add ~/bin/ansible/bin to $PATH?03:15
mnichieAfter rebooting the other day, I am no longer to boot/decrypt my luks disk.  I can find and view the luks header with cryptsetup, but the password that I have been using for over a year no longer works with it.  Anybody have *any* ideas about what to try?  I have run out of things to try03:40
curiousxHi! there, sry for the off topic but what do you think about my global CSS that i'm cooking ?  http://i.imgur.com/eaIUbNV.png03:48
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wolfzratanyone can help me, I'm using xchat azure and want to auto connect to this awesome channel03:56
OerHekswolfzrat, xchat azure is an osx irc client?03:58
eeeyy2uHow? However they please and with relative ease: Biological warfare (who's going to save the black masses, all those "brilliant" witch doctors and voodoo practitioners?), starvation (cannibalism will only get them so far), simply cutting them off from the White man's "tit" would take care of most of them (no more endless "gibs-me-dats" to get), then roll over the rest militarily (Shaka Zulu will not save them and spears cannot take down drones, jets, or03:59
OerHekslook in the manual, it is not opensourece at all03:59
eeeyy2umissiles).03:59
eeeyy2uJews will make quick work of them once they have worn out their usefulness (the brown and yellow masses will be just about as easy to deal with), then their plans will be completed and they will have this world to themselves.03:59
OerHekseeeyy2u, wrong channel dude03:59
OerHeks!ot > eeeyy2u03:59
ubottueeeyy2u, please see my private message03:59
wolfzratOerHek, yes03:59
OerHeks!ops03:59
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eeeyy2uOnce Whites have been completely disenfranchised, displaced, and utterly destroyed, they will circle back around to claim everything from their black and brown WMD's.03:59
OerHekseeeyy2u, kiddo, move away from #freenode network, thanks.04:00
wolfzratOerHeks, it is a OS X program04:04
OerHekswolfzrat, look in the manual, it is not opensourece at all, i don't know.04:04
OerHekselse try #macosx or #osxchat something?04:05
KiickiOerHeks was it complicated to make AMD HD 5450 work?04:07
OerHeksKiicki, no, it runs out of the box on 16.0404:08
OerHeks HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-66-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU         530  @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 5,8GiB, 52,8% free ** Disk: Total: 1,5TiB, 12,1% free ** VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI2: USB-Audio - USB Device04:09
OerHeks0x46d:0x825 ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 4d 4h 15m 54s **04:09
OerHeksooops04:09
wolfzratOerHeks, ok sorry your messages got mixed up in all that long text, thank you ill look into it04:09
KiickiI suspect that the integrated graphics from the CPU works well for you I guess and not the actual GPU. It didn't work for me at least04:10
OerHeksintegrated graphics from the CPU ??04:10
KiickiYeah, most CPU's have integrated graphics so maybe your OS is using that. My CPU doesn't have integrated graphics actually so the GPU is all I have and it doesn't work well04:11
OerHeksKiicki, i run the 5450 .. not the integraded grapthis. are you drunk or something? you make things up again04:12
KiickiIt's common that integrated graphics gets assign to do the dektop work and the web browser etc where the GPU kicks in at games or "high end" software04:13
darksegHello all, I have been learning to use systemd-networkd and have become confused on a few issues. I understand how NetworkManager works with the gnome desktop, and how to switch to systemd-networkd. I do not understand how my server without NetworkManager installed nor systemd-netorkd handles the network service.04:13
Kiickiunless you have totally disabled integrated graphics04:13
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KiickiSo yeah it's not stupid to assume that the integrated graphics runs the light things in your system unless you have specifically changed that. Light things as the desktop in general or web browser04:15
d_ven0mdarkseg: So are you asking about a non-systemd server?04:17
d_ven0mKiicki: If OerHeks is running a desktop, I don't think he's using integrated graphics. His post suggests dedicated graphics card use04:18
darksegno, I am running systemd04:18
d_ven0mdarkseg: So are you asking how systemd-networkd handles the network service? Or how to handle the network service without using systemd-networkd?04:20
darksegd_venOm: Yes, how to handle the network without using systemd-networkd. I know how to use networkd just can figure out how its working when its not enabled currently04:22
d_ven0mdarkseg: Well, are you using a wired connection or wireless?04:22
darksegd_venOm: Wired on a vm04:24
darksegd_venOm: when I run “systemclt list-unit-files” I do not see NetworkManager or systemd-networkd enabled. So what is managing my network service?04:25
d_ven0mdarkseg: What VM are you using?04:25
darksegd_venOm: Its just a lab box running vmware04:27
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darksegd_venOm: OS is Debian Jessie04:28
d_ven0mdarkseg: I would look at how the network interface is setup via the VM (usually either NAT or Bridged). In terms of what program on the VM is handling the network connection, it could be a couple different programs.04:30
d_ven0mdarkseg: See if you're running dhcpcd or dhclient.04:30
absoluteGoofaPastafarian update: His Noodliness Has Spoken04:31
darksegd_venOm: Im using a static address. and neither04:33
d_ven0mdarkseg: Hm, netctl?04:34
d_ven0mdarkseg: It's connected to the internet, yes?04:34
darksegd_venOm: All is working correctly. I just trying to figure out how its working without NetworkManager or Networkd04:36
d_ven0mdarkseg: Well NetworkManager and systemd-networkd are really just network managers, they aren't necessary for network connectivity. They just manage network connections04:39
darksegd_venOm: correct: so how do I find out what "is" managing it?04:41
d_ven0mdarkseg: well on the lower-level, probably just "ip"04:41
darksegd_venOm: okay, thanks your your help. I will look into it some more.04:42
d_ven0mdarkseg: it's part of iproute204:42
d_ven0mdarkseg: so using "ip" from iproute2, for example, you can get a list of NICs with "ip link"04:44
d_ven0m"ip" is a tool from iproute2, a collection of utilities for controlling TCP/IP networking and traffic control in Linux04:46
darksegd_venOm: mostly I'm trying to understand what is pointing it to the /etc/network/interface file for addressing.04:46
ubuntu_:V04:47
darksegd_venOm: sorry im not being very clear04:47
VadiI can use `quilt push -a` to apply all of my debian patches to the source package fine, and I can use `quilt pop -a` to unapply them all fine. However, one of the patches has a fuzz of 1 and 'quilt refresh' is not fixing it. How can I remove the fuzz?04:47
ubuntu_do you guys know, why cant i change the display resolution?04:48
Nicho1asHi, after a reboot all the partition links of LVM don't show up in /dev/mapper... but the logical disks show up which don't end with 'p<num>' in the name. does anyone have an idea why this happens?04:48
ubuntu_it has only 1920x108004:48
Nicho1asand also the /dev/dm-<dmnum> s also don't show up04:48
d_ven0mdarkseg: What is pointing what to the /etc/network/interface file?04:51
d_ven0mdarkseg: you said "what is pointing it...", what exactly is "it"?04:53
KiickiI don't know d_ven0m. by default it's not stupid to think that integrated graphics from the CPU is running small tasks like Chrome, other system settings and the actual desktop by default when the integrated graphics is enabled unless you have manually changed it yourself. Where the GPU will run most the heavy work. Because it makes no sense why his system04:56
Kiickiruns graphics fine but mine doesn't and we have the same GPU04:56
Kiickidifference is that I don't have integrated graphics, he does so I suspect his integrated graphics is running the show for web browser and desktop. Because it makes sense04:57
d_ven0mKiicki: Is it a laptop though? Because if it's a desktop I highly doubt that04:58
KiickiIt's a desktop for me at least. I guess for him too. It's a desktop GPU04:58
FMan"integrated graphics from the CPU"04:59
OerHeksKiicki, if you think i fool you .. man - o man04:59
OerHekslook at my cloak, i am an Ubuntu member, not just an volunteer :-(04:59
KiickiI don't think you fool me. I just think your integrated graphics is what actually runs the show for your desktop and browser04:59
OerHeksnope04:59
KiickiWell it's strange then05:00
OerHeksKiicki, now stop this nonsense, or i'll ask you to leave.05:00
d_ven0mKiicki: I understand your reasoning, and it is true that many CPUs nowadays contain integrated graphics chips. However, those integrated graphics chips are usually broken out on the motherboard... which means if he were to use integrated graphics, he'd have to connect his motherboard's port to his monitor... which is most likely not the case05:00
KiickiBut why am I talking nonsense? Do you think I'm lying about having the same GPU? Or do you think I'm lying about it not working good? You even said it worked right from the box which is not true from my part05:01
KiickiIt's not lacking in RAM either, it got 16GB05:01
d_ven0mKiicki: They're most likely referring to what I just said... which means he cannot be running from his integrated graphics chip05:02
KiickiI know what you mean. I will try again then05:03
d_ven0mKiicki: If he is running from a dedicated graphics card on a desktop, the integrated graphics chip will NEVER kick in to replace the dedicated card05:03
KiickiThat I know ^05:03
OerHeksThis is not dualgraphics, integraded intel switched off, and has even a plastic cup on it, so i cannot make the rookie misstake05:04
KiickiFair enough05:04
OerHeksso what is your graphic problem ?05:05
Kiickiscreen tearing, slow, stuttery when scrolling through web-browser, feeling like I'm running a virtual machine, Even youtube and movies is a pain to watch. I notice stuttery and screen tearing. A graphics problem I guess.05:05
KiickiI'm making a bootable USB now to check the Ubuntu version again 16.04.2 LTS05:06
d_ven0mKiicki: You are running natively, yes?05:07
KiickiI'm not sure what you mean by that. I'm really new to Linux05:07
OerHeksthat would be a good step to verify. does it tear and stutter in live05:07
FManYouTube is always a pain to watch05:07
Kiickiyes, but what about movies?05:08
Kiickieven using the VLC included or Kodi05:08
FManall movies made after 1990 suck05:08
OerHeksFMan, i have the same gpu, i can play 2 movies at the same time05:08
d_ven0mMeaning not from a live disk (CD or USB), and not in a VM05:08
OerHeksso your comment is not helpfull at all05:08
Kiickiaah, no I have actually installed the OS from USB stick. It's not just in try out mode05:08
d_ven0mYou have installed it to the USB stick, and are NOT using the "try out" mode?05:09
KiickiNo, I installed it. Why not install it?05:09
davido_I think he means he installed it on his hard drive or SSD, using a bootable USB to perform the install.05:10
davido_Pretty sure that given his comment earlier that he's rather new to Linux, that it's not running in a VM, so yes, native. Good question. Answered.05:10
Kiicki^05:11
d_ven0mAh, okay. Well, next step. Have you made sure you have updated the system?05:11
d_ven0me.g. "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade"05:12
KiickiOn my previous attempts I updated everything in Software updates and driver manager. I'm installing the OS again now so I will be back in 10-15 min with more detail05:12
KiickiAs I have tried several Ubuntu/Mint versions over 2 days05:13
KiickiNow I'm installing 16.04.205:13
FManthat's what I have - welcome to the club! :)05:13
KiickiSo the USB is plugged into the PC I will be installing on and I'm selecting "Install Ubuntu" and NOT "Try Ubuntu"05:13
d_ven0mCorrect05:14
Kiicki"Erase disk and install Ubuntu" from the Installation Type05:14
KiickiI'll do that too. I'm just informing now my steps05:14
d_ven0mYou shouldn't have to reinstall the OS, but if you're already in the process, you might as well05:15
Kiickiyeah, it will be quick05:15
d_ven0mYes, thankfully Ubuntu has pretty sane defaults so you can just let it do the partitioning and such :)05:15
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Kiickid_ven0m meanwhile I'm waiting for this. What is the first thing I should do when it's booted up?05:18
KiickiI just don't want to screw up anything05:18
d_ven0mAfter it's done installing, make sure to run updates in case there are any.05:18
Kiickifrom Sofware updates right that is located in Launcher? If that is what you call it05:18
d_ven0mYes, although I personally prefer just running "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade"05:19
d_ven0mThat command right there, when run from a terminal, will 1) connect to the internet and determine if there are any updates and 2) install those updates if there are any05:21
NeedHelpHello05:22
NeedHelphax: I fuck your mother05:22
haxI mean, I'd insult you back but you use Chatzilla so it'd be like shooting fish in a barrel.05:23
haxOh ok.05:23
KiickiThank you. I will run those two commands05:23
d_ven0mLOL @ chatzilla05:23
NeedHelphax: I fuck your mother HARD05:24
FManwhy is Ubuntu using this terminology?05:24
OnigiriI installed 16.04.2-server on an old desktop, the installer runs fine... but after rebooting I get no video on the integrated HD4000. I've got dual screens, one on the display port and a second on the dvi.05:25
FManthat is, one would expect that "apt update" will install updates, but no - it's misleading to me (probably to many others too)05:25
Nicho1asHi, after a reboot all the partition links of LVM don't show up in /dev/mapper... but the logical disks that include those partitions show up which don't end with 'p<num>' in the name. does anyone have an idea why this happens? - it all shows up after a 'partprobe' command. should I make them do a 'partprobe' whenever they boot up?05:25
d_ven0mKiicki: you can actually type "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" exactly as I've written it between the quotes and it will take care of the updates in a single statement05:26
OerHeksOnigiri, ctrl alt F2, then login05:26
KiickiThank you, I was just going to ask if it was one command or two05:26
OerHeksd_ven0m, after fresh install, sudo apt dist-upgrade or full-upgrade05:26
OerHeks'just' upgrade would not give newer kernels and such05:27
FManI suppose it is okay that I always run dist-upgrade05:27
davido_It is.05:27
KiickiI'm booted in now so what command should I do? What do you suggest OerHeks?05:27
OnigiriOerHeks: wow, thanks05:27
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OnigiriI just assumed it was more i915 issues like I was having with a couple other distros XD05:28
OerHeksFMan +105:28
KiickiI guess we are not on talking terms, lol. I'll just use the command you suggested d_ven0m05:29
d_ven0mFMan: That's because "apt update" just updates the cache, i.e. it updates the list of program versions and checks for differences between those fetched from the internet and those locally installed. "apt upgrade" is what upgrades the local packages to the new versions fetched from the internet.05:30
davido_Has anyone here used a DisplayLink based monitor or monitor-adapter with Ubuntu? On my i7 laptop it works flawlessly, but on my i5 desktop, it causes mouse flicker when the mouse is on any of the non-displaylink monitors.05:30
FManyeah, I know what it does, but I maintain my position that it confuses :)05:32
Kiickid_ven0m 84 packages can be upgraded. How do I install them all?05:32
KiickiI ran the commad05:32
Kiickicommand05:32
FMansudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:32
OerHekshit 'y' ..05:32
d_ven0mKiicki: "sudo apt upgrade" or "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"05:32
OerHeksif you get the message 84 packages, you run upgrade already05:33
KiickiThat was fast05:33
OerHeksman o man Kiicki, now you are really fooling us05:33
d_ven0mKiicki: You'd probably be fine with "sudo apt upgrade", I'm running 16.04 LTS and haven't run dist-upgrade. My kernel's fine... or is it... *looks around in terror*05:33
KiickiCan you stop thinking I'm a troll? I did the ""sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" and it took seconds05:33
KiickiNot sure if it actually installed or just searched for it05:34
FManthen you probably canceled the installing05:34
* OerHeks had this idea for a day, now ignoring05:35
KiickiI didn't do anything else than typing "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade"05:35
FManif you look at the output, you cannot mistake whether upgrades were installed05:35
FManyou have to accept the installing with Y, after you are told how many pkgs can be upgraded05:35
KiickiI did it now but it says "command not found"05:36
d_ven0mKiicki: I have to run out for a little bit, I'll be back home in a little bit but I can still talk through the phone05:38
u0_a115this is my temporary nick05:38
d_ven0m^^05:38
Kiickihttp://pastebin.com/raw/6CXeaqY205:39
KiickiThat is all I have done in the command05:40
hateballWhat are you trying to do?05:41
hateballBecause your paste shows you refreshing package lists twice05:41
KiickiJust did a fresh install. Trying to update it05:41
hateballKiicki: that would be "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove"05:41
KiickiI just did as I was told:05:42
Kiickid_ven0m> Kiicki: you can actually type "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" exactly as I've written it between the quotes and it will take care of the updates in a single statement05:42
hateballupdate refreshes lists, full-upgrade upgrades everything, autoremove removes old kernels so /boot doesnt get full (in case it is on separate partition)05:42
hateballKiicki: You wrote update twice tho05:42
Kiickiooh, just noticed that the last one said upgrade05:42
Kiickimy bad05:42
FManyou just ran update twice05:42
* FMan points with finger and laughs rudely05:42
Kiickiyeah, I read it wrong. Sorry05:43
FManI accept your apology05:43
FManso that explains why it went so fast :D05:43
Kiickiyeah05:43
FManok, try again05:43
KiickiNow it's doing some work. I typed in the correct one and pressed "Y" after. it's still running. Looks good05:45
FMancool05:45
FMankeep an eye on it for any warnings or error - although there shouldn't be any, since you just installed a fresh system05:45
sachin105:46
FMan205:46
plutaWill using “apt-get --purge autoremove” remove a package and its depencies that installed along with it? My main question is will it trash depencies I need for other packages as well? I want to do a full cleanup of a package I installed.05:50
lotuspsychjepluta: have you added ppa's of any kind?05:51
KiickiUpdates are done. I guess I will reboot now05:51
plutayes05:51
plutaquite a few05:51
davido_It's typically smart enough to leave dependencies if other distributions that are installed rely on them.05:51
lotuspsychjepluta: remove those ppa's first to get out of the mess05:51
plutaI see, so that command will remove all dependencies regardless if other packages are using them or not05:51
lotuspsychje!ppapurge | pluta05:51
ubottupluta: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html05:51
Nicho1asHi, after a reboot all the partition links of LVM don't show up in /dev/mapper... but the logical disks that include those partitions show up which don't end with 'p<num>' in the name -nor in the /dev/dm-<dm-num> or /proc/partitions- does anyone have an idea why this happens? - it all shows up after a 'partprobe' command. should I make them do a 'partprobe' whenever they boot up?05:53
plutaI guess its best to just see which adiditonal packages that package installed when it was installed and remove those05:55
KiickiAwesome, so the screen tearing is gone but it's kinda stuttery. All I have done so far after the clean install is to run the command "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade"05:55
plutaor just use apt-get autoremove pkgname05:56
plutaand see the list05:56
KiickiNow I'm in Software and updates under "additional drivers" and I'm gonna select the AMD one. It's at "Do not use the device" atm05:58
d_onthegoHello05:59
d_onthegoIts d_ven0m i had trouble remotely connecting :p05:59
Bashing-omKiicki: What releae did you install ? As there are not AMD proprietary drivers for 16.04++ ,06:00
KiickiI got Ubuntu 16.04.2 and in "additional drivers" It says "Using processor microcode firmware for AMD CPU's from amd64-microcode (proprietary)06:01
KiickiIt was at "Do not use the device"06:01
KiickiI installed 16.04.2 because someone in here said that should work with that GPU as he also had the same GPU06:02
Bashing-omKiicki: Yeah .. the micro-code update. Ya want that for newer systems .06:02
KiickiSo I should disable it?06:03
d_onthegoNo keep the microcode enabled. Its for the cpu. Its like a hotfix06:03
Bashing-omKiicki: NO, ya want to enable the update for microcode firmware .06:04
Kiickiat least the screen tearing is gone after I ran the updates but it still kinda stuttery. It's not as smooth or snappy as I know it can be, even though it's old hardware06:05
KiickiKinda like laggy ish06:05
d_onthegoNow that the updates are installed, and the firmware microcode is good, Id say the next step would be to get your video drivers06:06
tatertotshe has a amd radeon....he'll be using the kernel supplied drivers...he has no other driver options for vga card06:06
KiickiI think they stopped supporting the newer Ubuntu tbh06:07
KiickiIt's a AMD HD 545006:07
tatertotsso you're done...06:07
Bashing-omKiicki: My old box was sluggish too with unity . (l)ubuntu ran well . What processor and how much ram do you have ?06:07
d_onthegoIm not sure if there are drivers for your particular card but i can look it up. And if all else fails there should be an open source one06:07
KiickiCPU AMD Athlon II X2 B2406:08
Kiicki16GB RAM06:08
KiickiI know it's not great but it shouldn't be this laggy I guess. Someone here even says that they have 2 monitors connected to it and it runs great. Same Ubuntu version, same GPU06:08
KiickiGood news is that screen tearing is gone06:08
Bashing-omKiicki: Should run . I too run dual Athlons on 4 Gigs of ram . unity is a bit slgggish on this system . (x)ubuntu runs well .( I do multi-boot )06:10
rymax99Is there any real advantage to using (x/k/l)ubuntu instead of just installing the desktop environment?06:11
Kiickihmm, not sure what to do then. This PC will just be run as a media server but will also run Kodi on it. How it is now, I don't consider it to be good enough for even watching movies tbh because of the slight stuttery/lag06:12
tatertotssure i can think of one advantage...less administrative effort,06:12
wedgierymax99: just a faster path to your end goal. And won't have the extra stuff associated with a different DE06:12
rymax99i kind of value having another desktop environment laying around in case i completely bork cinnamon :P06:13
d_onthegoKubuntu over ubuntu is a matter of preference of gnome vs kde, whereas lubuntu and xubuntu use significantly less system resources so they run faster06:13
rymax99works for me06:13
rymax99d_onthego, yeah, i've always found it kind of odd that the project bothers maintaining so many versions when it's so simple to change environments06:14
rymax99so figured i'd ask :P06:14
d_onthegoWell theyre all maintained by different people06:14
KiickiThere are some unticked boxes under "Other Software" as "cdrom:[Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ -Release amd64 (20170215.2))/ xental main restricted"06:14
d_onthegoDont worry about the unticked boxes06:15
KiickiSo that's it then. This is as good as it can be I guess06:15
tatertotsyup that's it buddy06:15
KiickiMaybe it's the CPU that is causing the problem of slowness06:16
d_onthegoAccording to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver your card should be supported06:16
KiickiIt's probably the CPU then. It still kinda ticks me that it runs "snappy" on Windows 10 but not on Ubuntu06:17
d_onthegoIts probably still a graphics issue, its hard on the phone but when i return to my desktop i will help you out with that06:17
hateballKiicki: when it comes to AMD gpu, there's a !ppa you can use for a more up to date MESA06:17
tatertotsthis is what AMD/ATI gpu owners can expect https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/ moving forward06:18
KiickiThink I will try some light games and see for real how it runs06:20
tatertotsgood luck06:20
Hikohi06:21
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Hikono one talks here?06:24
d_onthegoKiicki: stay on the chat, ill be back soon and ill shoot you a pm06:24
KiickiBut thanks everyone for your help! I will be using this system to see if it's at least good enough for watching movies. Screen tearing is gone but I got a feeling that the stuttery/lag will annoy be in the long run06:25
d_onthegoHiko: you havent asked anything06:25
Kiickiooh, I'll stay06:25
lotuspsychje!support | Hiko06:26
ubottuHiko: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com06:26
KiickiOn 2nd thought, Maybe I should download a file to the PC and see if it lags rather than using Youtube as plugins and the web browser could be the problem06:27
d_onthegoYou could try that. Try opening System Monitor while you do06:28
d_onthegoAt least you'll be able to see where your RAM and CPU are at during the process at least06:29
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KiickiWill do06:29
lotuspsychjemorning cfhowlett06:33
cfhowlettyowza ^306:34
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Kiickid_onthego It's still kinda stuttery from VLC. I'm in System monitor and everything seems fine. Running 15-20% from both CPU cores, Swap memory is not in use which is good, around 8% of my system memory06:38
KiickiVLC using 6% of CPU06:39
lotuspsychjeKiicki: installed codecs?06:39
KiickiNo, I just installed VLC06:39
lotuspsychje!info ubuntu-restricted-extras | Kiicki06:39
ubottuKiicki: ubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used media codecs and fonts for Ubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 65 (yakkety), package size 3 kB, installed size 14 kB06:39
lotuspsychjeKiicki: can you check if youtube is stuttery also?06:41
Kiickiit is06:41
Kiickiwhich is why I thought I should check from the PC itself and not from web browser06:41
tatertotsdon't leave out that "in firefox" part Kiicki06:41
lotuspsychjeKiicki: probably graphics drivers or codecs06:42
tatertotsbecause you haven't actually tired youtube in any other browser yet06:42
Kiickiyeah youtube in Firefox is stuttery/laggy and same from PC using VLC06:42
d_onthegoKiicki: Ok thanks for the update. Definitely informative. Im almost back so i will be able to help you out better once im back06:42
tatertotstried06:42
KiickiI will tried out Chrome now but I expect the same problem as it runs kinda the same from PC too06:43
Kiickiusing VLC but haven't installed any codec06:43
Kiickisudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras06:43
KiickiI guess I can run that06:43
nanodroneabout to install my first snap ever06:43
tatertotsvlc codecs are internal and self contained06:43
Kiickiaah06:43
tatertotsso when it comes to vlc....codec for the most part is irrelevant06:44
tatertotsKiicki: in terminal>         sudo apt install inxi pastebinit06:45
tatertotsKiicki: when its done ...say so06:45
nanodronewow snaps take up so much space06:46
nanodrone80megs for a screen recorder app06:46
KiickiIt's done tatertots06:46
cfhowlettnanodrone, please take the chitchat to #ubuntu-offtopic as this channel is for support.  thanks.06:46
nanodronei didnt know there was an offtopic channel sorry06:47
tatertotsKiicki: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit06:47
tatertotsKiicki: share url/link here06:47
nanodronehas anyone had any luck with connected standby/active go with ubuntu?06:48
Kiickihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24181221/06:48
tatertotsKiicki: looks as expected06:52
tatertotsKiicki: did you try chrome/chromium yet?06:53
KiickiNo about too06:53
tatertotsKiicki: and how did youtube performance compare to youtube in firefox?06:53
KiickiChrome is actually worse. Some screen tearing06:54
Kiickitatertots06:54
cfhowlettKiicki, play a video from your player -if it tears, you have a graphics issue06:55
tatertotsKiicki: i'm personally not surprised at your performance observations knowing you're GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD CEDAR (DRM 2.46.0 / 4.8.0-41-generic, LLVM 3.8.0)06:55
KiickiNow I got an error from Ubuntu. "sorry, Ubunty 16.04 has experienced an internal error06:55
tatertotsKiicki: you should be able to "x" out that little box06:56
hateballWhile not supported, if it were me, I'd use oibaf !ppa and see if that ups your performance https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers06:57
d_ven0mI'm back06:57
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userrohi back, I'm userro. Nice to meet you06:58
KiickiNow Chrome is better after I launched it again06:58
KiickiSo Chrome and Firefox pretty much performs the same06:58
VadiHow can I stop Dash from turning off scopes? Every time I open it it disables a random set of scopes - super frustrating.07:04
tatertotsKiicki: in terminal>    /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p|patebinit07:05
tatertotsKiicki: actually it's more important that YOU see it than that I/we see it07:06
tatertotsKiicki: in terminal>   /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p07:07
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JP____anyone know a package that will colorise my terminal?07:37
JP____*without needing to configure it *07:37
cfhowlettbyoubo07:38
cfhowlettbyobu      that s07:38
squigcan I ask mint questions here?07:41
cfhowlettnope.  use mint's support channels07:41
cfhowlett!mint07:41
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org07:41
squigthanks!07:41
cfhowletthappy2help!07:41
JapaI need to make an ubuntu VM for testing code. What's the smallest graphical flavor? Besides size, would it matter which one I use, if I'm not targeting a specific one?07:42
SebthreeBQM10HDhi07:43
EriC^^Japa: lubuntu07:43
JapaThanks07:43
JapaFor some strange reason, the same program is crashing on ubuntu on release build, hanging on debian on release build, and not having any issues at all with a develop build on debian07:44
JP____cfhowlett: apt-get install byobu and done?07:50
cfhowlettwait 107:50
cfhowlettJP____, yep07:50
utente4bhello07:51
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JP____cfhowlett: byobu is cool, but it doesn't really colorize my terminal text08:05
userrouse tmux08:07
userroit makes your text green08:07
userro:p08:08
JP____i already have green text08:10
JP____i just wanted to have like different modules and functions to have different colors, for readability08:10
userrolol ok08:10
JP____like ip addresses one color08:10
JP____strings another08:10
JP____or if i start ptpython that the color changes or something08:11
JP____cfhowlett: unless i have to configure it to do that?08:11
userrohttps://scottlinux.com/2013/07/08/enable-colorful-terminal-in-debian-and-ubuntu/ try this08:12
omilunomilunhello . i need to have some user to ssh to server . i have to use a role to each user to can ssh with only a spechial ip address on thier users08:12
cfhowlettJP____, man byobu     :)08:12
omilunomiluninfact i want my clients only can ssh to thier users with thier own ip address08:12
userroomilunomilun, that's impossible08:12
userroyour server has only one ip08:13
OerHeksomilunomilun, edit the server /etc/ssh/sshd_config file like this: AllowUsers jim@11.22.33.56     ( or AllowUsers jim@11.22.33.56 jim@123.123.123.123 for multi ip)3.3608:14
omilunomilunOerHeks: ahaaaa . for axaple : omid@X , lee@Y, semon@Z08:15
lotuspsychje!info colortail | JP____ also nice08:16
ubottuJP____ also nice: colortail (source: colortail): log colorizer that makes log checking easier. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.3-1 (yakkety), package size 24 kB, installed size 144 kB08:16
OerHeksomilunomilun, jups08:16
OerHeksno , in between08:16
omilunomilunOerHeks and userro: thanq so much08:16
JP____lotuspsychje: yeah but i want for my terminal ; )08:16
lotuspsychjeJP____: check solarized theme for terminal08:17
lotuspsychjeJP____: http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized08:18
jguillenHello, im trying to dockerize an app that uses fuse. But i keep getting this:    fuse: failed to exec fusermount: No such file or directory08:18
userroomilunomilun, no problem08:18
jguillenany hint ?08:18
JP____lotuspsychje: thats how i got the idea :p08:19
jguillenHello, I keep gettin this message when trying to use fuse :    fuse: failed to exec fusermount: No such file or directory          Read I needed fuse-utils package but nos available for 16.04. Anyone hints ?08:20
pwatersshfs works for me with 'apt-get install sshfs'08:20
jguillen(please ignore the "dockerize" message hehe)08:21
pwaterthen sshfs user@host:/dir /mount/dir08:21
pwaterim on 16.04 as well08:21
totonne98ehi08:21
totonne98yeah bro08:22
totonne98ciao flavio08:22
Fla_2016Problems with sound card: soundblaster 16 live value, on ubuntu 16.10 mate. E 'regularly set as the main and default, it is regularly recognized by alsamixer, but it works in spurts. If I go on system-preferences-audio-system you do not recognize me. Then sometimes he launches alsamixer, ME UNDERSTAND THE NEW, maybe launch a movie on youtube, and you unconfigures again. Any suggest please?08:22
dioobellaù08:22
diooio08:22
diooanto08:22
Fla_2016it unconfigures08:22
dioopassa anche a me anto08:23
boch608:23
JP____lotuspsychje: any idea how i can import this theme into my current terminal?08:26
Fla_2016Problems with sound card: soundblaster 16 live value, on ubuntu 16.10 mate. E 'regularly set as the main and default, it is regularly recognized by alsamixer, but it works in spurts. If I go on system-preferences-audio-system you do not recognize me. Then sometimes he launches alsamixer, ME UNDERSTAND THE NEW, maybe launch a movie on youtube, and it unconfigures again. Any suggest please?08:27
tatertotsFla_2016: in terminal>    sudo apt install inxi pastebinit08:28
dioohello word08:28
tatertotsFla_2016: when it's done ....say so08:28
dioowhat is this ?08:28
bazhangubuntu support dioo08:28
dioowhat is the object of xChat? i need answer please :)08:29
OerHeksdioo, good start: read the topic08:30
bazhangirc client dioo , better upgrade to hexchat08:30
bazhangdioo, are you on ubuntu08:30
Fla_2016tatertos: ok08:32
Fla_2016tatertots: http://pastebin.com/p2E4NYa608:35
tatertotsFla_2016: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit08:38
tatertotsFla_2016: share url/link here08:38
Fla_2016tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24181567/08:40
dioogoodbye word08:40
tatertotsFla_2016: in terminal>     aplay -l|pastebinit08:42
tatertotsFla_2016: share url/link here08:42
Fla_2016tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24181575/08:44
tatertotsFla_2016: in terminal>     aplay -L|pastebinit08:44
tatertotsFla_2016: share url/link here08:44
userrotatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24141524/08:45
bazhanguserro, why post minecraft info here08:46
tatertotsuserro: i think you may have mistakenly sent that info to me08:47
tatertotsor directed at08:47
userroI'm testing whether or not tatertots is a bot. It modified the previous paste url. I didn't know what it has08:48
tatertotsof course i'm a bot08:48
tatertotsthe new interactive kind08:50
tatertotsFla_2016: you still working on that ?08:50
Fla_2016tatertots: I have sent the two pastebin, you read them?08:52
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tatertotsFla_2016: yes i read them, more info is required of you, i will post the instruction again08:52
tatertotsFla_2016: in terminal>     aplay -L|pastebinit08:52
tatertotsFla_2016: share url/link here08:52
Fla_2016tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24181575/08:53
tatertotsFla_2016: ok something is very wrong with your system configuration IF you followed the instructions properly08:54
tatertotsFla_2016: allow me to elaborate08:54
Fla_2016tatertota: of course, thank08:55
tatertotsFla_2016: aplay -l      and      aplay -L    may look the similar but they are NOT and should have completely different results, what i saw from you is the same result two times08:55
Fla_2016tatertots: of course, thank08:55
tatertotsFla_2016: this give me pause08:56
Fla_2016tatertots: my miiskta, one moment08:56
Fla_2016tatertots: my mistake, one moment08:56
tatertotsFla_2016: as that is NOT the expected result08:56
tatertotsFla_2016: if you followed instructions properly then something is very wrong08:56
Fla_2016tatertots: yes but what? :-)08:57
Fla_2016tatertots: yes but what is wrong? :-)08:58
tatertotsFla_2016: if aplay -l and aplay -L give the same result...you should backup any important data and reinstall...period08:58
tatertotsFla_2016: it is highly abnormal for the two results to be identical...highly abnormal08:59
Fla_2016tatertots, i've maked olny aplay-L both, my mistache. Now will post aplay-l, my mistake08:59
Fla_2016tatertots:http://paste.ubuntu.com/24181611/09:00
tatertotsFla_2016: much better..and normal09:01
whatatiminghow to disable sysmted-resolved.service? I use systemctl disable systemd-resolved.service and it doesn't work09:03
whatatimingit's really bad service make my network slowly09:03
whatatimingand why systemd like to take over everything?09:04
tatertotsFla_2016: in terminal>    speaker-test -Dsysdefault:Live -c 209:04
tatertotsFla_2016: do you hear any sounds? yes or no09:05
Fla_2016tatertots: yes!! Perfectly09:06
tatertotsFla_2016: in terminal press ctrl+c to stop09:06
Fla_2016tatertots: already done :-)09:07
tatertotsFla_2016: in terminal>    speaker-test -Dsysdefault:V8237 -c 209:07
tatertotsFla_2016: do you hear any sounds? yes or no09:07
Fla_2016tatertots: not hear anything09:08
tatertotsFla_2016: in terminal press ctrl+c to stop09:08
Fla_2016attertots: already done09:09
Fla_2016tatertots: already done :-)09:09
tatertotsFla_2016: your system has passed a sound test, your Creative Labs EMU10k1 [Sound Blaster Live! Series] is functional09:10
tatertotsFla_2016: play a youtube video and report if you have sound09:11
Fla_2016tatertots: Audio jerky, as before, the problem is precisely this. Even for sounds system09:13
tatertotsFla_2016: are you using firefox? yes or no09:13
Fla_2016tatertots: if i play a song with alsaplayer all ok09:14
tatertotsFla_2016: are you using firefox? yes or no09:14
Fla_2016tatertots: now i'm using chromium, but some problem with sound system09:15
tatertotsFla_2016: ok09:15
tatertotsFla_2016: does the symptom occur when using VIA VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller?09:16
Fla_2016tatertots: I have not tried, I must go, thank you for still support09:17
tatertotsFla_2016: the sound blaster is likely a pci add in card that you would have had to install in the computer, versus the "on board" sound controller09:17
tatertotsFla_2016: take care09:17
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yuan_hi09:26
BluesKajHey folks09:33
trapchatwhats hubuntu?09:50
ducasseno such thing, afaik. if there is, it's not in any way an official, supported flavor.09:52
OerHeksit is an ubuntu member > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hubuntu09:54
ducasse!flavors09:55
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. The current list is: !Edubuntu, !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, Ubuntu !Kylin, !Lubuntu, !Mythbuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, !Xubuntu, and Ubuntu !MATE09:55
KiickiJust want to say thanks to d_ven0m for the help with my graphics issues. We have been PM'ing for a while now. So thanks again. It didn't quite work out so not sure where the problem really is. OerHeks I guess you are lucky that your same GPU works or something. Didn't work out for me. Cheers!10:00
ducasseKiicki: you're running an amd hd 5450?10:04
Kiickiyeah10:04
KiickiI have pretty much gone through all the steps and tried several Linux distros and versions. It didn't work out for me10:04
ducassei've got one, and i bought one for a friend - both of them work flawlessy, mine for many years now.10:05
KiickiWell isn't that just amazing -.-10:05
Kiickilol, no we are all good. This PC needs to go back to W10. It worked great with it10:06
ducassethey have a reputation for being amost the most stable gpus you can get with radeon if all you need is basic graphics, actually10:06
ducasseso it's weird :)10:06
ducasseamong, not amost10:06
Kiickiyeah, it's indeed weird10:07
ducassewhat's the actual problem?10:07
KiickiMain problem would be screen tear and that it feels sluggish. Not as snappy and it's not even good enough to watch Youtube or movies directly from VLC10:08
KiickiFirefox and Chrome had the same problem. The update/upgrade command did help with the screen tearing but there are still some10:08
KiickiSo I guess a graphics issue10:09
ducasseodd. are the vaapi/vdpau drivers installed?10:10
ducassei think you want va-driver-all for amd10:12
KiickiI have no idea but probably. I have done everything I have been told10:12
KiickiThis system is just not up for it10:12
ducassejust a thought.10:13
magichummusI am using KDE and had previously been able to use the 3d cube desktop and transparent windows, however, both of the options no longer worked after changing my graphics drivers. I reverted back, however these settings continue to not work. Does anyone know what might be happening?10:15
ducassemagichummus: what kind of gpu/drivers?10:17
ethan-m43Hi guys i install ubuntu in dev/sdc forced uefi, can I install another OS in dev/sda? ???10:17
ducasseas long as you install in uefi mode10:18
BluesKajmagichummus, system settings>desktop behaviour>desktop effects10:19
magichummusducasse: I was originally using the nuveau driver version 1:1.0.12, which these effects did work on, then switched to nvidia 375 attempting to resolve an issue with my computer to waking from suspend, which didn't end up workingn anyways, so switched back, now these effects do not work10:19
magichummusBlueKaj: translucency is checked, but still not working10:20
magichummusPlayed around with some of the other effects, looks like none of them work10:20
ducassecrashed compositor, i guess10:21
BluesKajmagichummus, OpenGL 3.1 ?10:21
magichummusBlueKaj: OpenGL 3.010:22
BluesKajwhich kubuntu magichummus?10:23
magichummusBlueKaj, I am using linux mint10:23
BluesKaj!mint | magichummus10:24
ubottumagichummus: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org10:24
ethan-m43So what means to force uefi? Should I force uefi for every different OS I install?10:31
ducassejust set the bios to uefi mode once and for all10:31
kiraUnable to locate certain wifi through ubuntu10:36
kirabut it is availble on other platforms10:36
ethan-m43It says here WebKitWeb process crashed  with SIGSEGV what is that?10:37
k1lethan-m43: where does it say that?10:37
ducasseethan-m43: segmentation fault10:37
tatertotskira: you want to change that to "but its available on other devices"?10:37
kira@tatertots :yes10:39
kiratatertots : yws10:40
kiraywa10:40
kirayup10:40
tatertotskira: do you have administrative level control over the wifi network in question?10:40
kiratatertots : yes10:41
tatertotskira: can you log in to the administrative interface of the wifi network right now?10:41
kiratatertots: yes10:42
tatertotskira: in terminal>     sudo apt install inxi pastebinit10:43
tatertotskira: when it's done...say so10:43
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kiratatertots: done10:44
tatertotskira: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit10:44
tatertotskira: share url/link here10:44
ethan-m43Ducase what can I do to fix segmentation fault? Is it a bad problem?10:45
kiratatertots : can u exactly tell what am i doing10:45
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kiratatertots: Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller             driver: r8169 ver: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e000 bus-ID: 09:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168            IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>            Card-2: Broadcom BCM43142 802.11b/g/n driver: wl bus-ID: 07:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:4365            IF: wlan0 state: dormant mac: <filter>10:48
tatertotskira: assuming you can successfully connect to other wifi networks, you'll be attempting to find a happy medium between your wlan adapter and the wifi network....right now they do NOT have a happy medium between the two, which would result in you not even being able to pick up the ssid on your computer....10:48
tatertotskira: i already protected your privacy personally, there was no need for you to NOT share the link as i instructed, as a result...you're on your own10:50
ducasseethan-m43: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2346806/what-is-a-segmentation-fault#234684910:50
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dohzeranyone ever had problems with TFTP transfers crapping themselves halfway through large files with "Error code 1: file not found" even though it was half way through the file it can't find?10:52
kiratatertots: should in share it now or was the info enough10:52
tatertotskira: nothing personal..it's just equivalent to going to your doctor and not letting him check your vitals like heart rate,pulse, checking your temp for a fever etc...any patent that does that...wants to be unhealthy and sick..and doesn't want the doctors help10:52
tatertotskira: and i just don't deal with patience like that10:53
tatertotsthe room is full of other health care providers so.....good luck10:55
kiratatertots : please find the link in the message11:00
kirahope u understand11:00
kiraCan anybody please helo with wifi connection cannot be descovered11:05
kirabut it is visible to others11:05
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stemidwhen ubuntu has filled up /boot with kernels, so apt-get wants me to do apt-get -f install, I can't do apt-get purge because it keeps bringing up unmet dependencies due to the failed install of the last kernel. is there some solution with apt that doesn't involve manually moving files from /boot?11:24
stemid14.0411:24
stemidI ended up just moving a couple of old initrd files to /var/backup so I could finish the install.11:26
thyriaenwhen i connect my wacom pad to the pc it does not show up in the wacom settings menu ( gui ) - however it is listed as an input device ( pad and pen ) under xinput and i can set settings via xsetinput just fine - "it just works" - how can i get it to show up in the gui aswell ?11:26
doublel93hello, someone knows the correct way to use/install python 3.6 on ubuntu 16.04 ?11:27
ducassestemid: dpkg -P the old kernel packages11:27
ducassedoublel93: yes, upgrade to 16.1011:27
doublel93ducasse: if I wanted to use an LTS version ?11:27
ducassedoublel93: then there is none with official python 3.611:28
nepetaxThe only thing I don't like on VMs is that your connections are not stable so you need to reboot. Meh. .-.11:29
ducassedoublel93: there are probably third-party repos, but those are at your own risk11:29
stemidthanks ducasse, dpkg -P was great. I'll have to remember that.11:29
ducassestemid: np11:30
nepetaxReason I use a VM: Don't wanna risk my Windows laptop to get my hard drive get messed up.11:30
stemidanyone have a good tip on how to handle the number of old kernels building up when you use unattended upgrades?11:33
stemidoff the top of my head I could monitor it but I wouldn't feel safe automating the purging of old kernels.11:33
ducassestemid: 'apt autoremove'11:33
hateballstemid: keep good backups and use apt autoremove :p11:33
stemidoh of course, thanks!11:34
stemidI didn't even consider that autoremove would remove kernels11:34
singh1114join #slic3r11:34
nwewhat is apt-get user-agent string?11:36
Cyber_AkumaSo, I have some family members who use an old PC mostly for streaming videos from random sites that are about their native country.... and they manage to get this thing badly infected all the time. While I know Ubunsu isn't virus-proof, I also know there are far far less viruses for it than Windows. How viable woudl it be if I just put Ubuntu on it with the intention that it would be pretty12:00
Cyber_Akumadamn hard to infect?12:00
macgyver1hi guys I just installed ubuntu12:01
macgyver1Is there any drivers for epos intellipen for linux?12:01
ducasseCyber_Akuma: it would be a lot harder, at least12:04
stemidabout the old kernel version build up when using unattended upgrades, I found this option Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "false"; in unattended-upgrades configuration.12:09
nwehow can I specify CAcert in apt.conf ? I have client certificate and key...12:18
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ahbuxhello guys, anyone knows how to check the md5sum of a binary comparing with the md5sum of the .deb in the repository?12:20
nelson_cocos2d-x12:24
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FManTropyxaccording to smartctl 6.5 2016-01-24 r4214 [x86_64-linux-4.4.0-57-lowlatency] (local build) my HDD is Western Digital Caviar Blue Serial ATA model WDC WD800AAJS-60B4A012:30
samtbyH12:30
KiickiDoes Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS support AMD HD 5450?12:32
KiickiIs it much different from Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS12:32
KiickiIt's still supported but 16.04 + didn't work for me12:33
FManTropyxtoo bad, still video issues?12:33
Kiickiyeah, but I think I will drop down to v14 but not sure which one or even if it matters12:33
FManTropyxI doubt it will have an effect - maybe try to ask on ##hardware for troubleshooting advice12:34
ducasseKiicki: 14.04 worked with mine12:35
ducasseKiicki: could it be a hw problem?12:35
samtbydo12:37
KiickiDon't know what it could be. I have had a lot of help and tried a lot of distros and version without any luck. I know for a fact that this GPU works great on Windows 10 after I have installed the graphics drivers but with Linux it's pretty slow, stuttery, screen tearing (Even though installing upgrades helped a bit) laggy and feels like I'm running in a12:38
Kiickivirtual machine12:38
KiickiI should have more than enough RAM too as I have 16GB12:38
KiickiSo it's just weird as someone in here uses the exact same GPU without any issues12:38
KiickiMaybe I'm picky but I didn't consider it to be good enough for even watching movies or Youtube tbh12:39
hateballKiicki: did you try the oibaf ppa?12:40
KiickiDon't think so as I haven't heard that one before. People keep recommending me new things even though for some it worked for them right out of the box12:41
KiickiMaybe, I have no idea at this point12:41
hateballKiicki: well perhaps they have different cards12:41
Kiickinah, same card12:42
hateballthe open source driver radeon was still quite new in 16.0412:42
Kiickiat least what he said12:42
KiickiI tried the once that was in "additional driver" and non of them worked12:42
Kiickior I think in 16.04 there were only 112:42
FManTropyxhave you tried installing Windows?12:42
hateballKiicki: anyhow this is the PPA I am talking about https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers12:42
FManTropyxany other OS than Ubuntu?12:43
hateballKiicki: so in short "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers && sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"12:43
KiickiYes, I know for a fact that Windows 10 runs smoothly on it. I'm actually about to finish of the W10 installation on it now12:43
KiickiI tried Mint, Ubuntu and Lubuntu12:43
hateball!ppa | Kiicki12:43
ubottuKiicki: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge12:43
KiickiAt some point I think I even used something called fglrx-updates in "additional driver"12:44
KiickiI just checked it and yes, I have tried PPA hateball12:45
ph88^hey guys, my computer crashed and now this launcher doesn't work anymore https://bpaste.net/show/752a3160a2f3 but the terminator program still works, what's wrong ?12:45
ducasseKiicki: i found the fglrx drivers not to be trouble-free with that card when i ran 14.0412:45
Kiickid_ven0m guides me through it. I just checked our chat log12:45
KiickiI will try it again ducasse. I'm not even sure if I ran "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" last time I tried v1412:46
Kiickibut v16 is no go for sure12:46
hateballKiicki: Alright, then I don't know what else to try as I only use nVidia and Intel myself12:47
Kiickifrustrating as I don't ask much from this computer. I dug it up so I can use it as a media server and connect it to my TV for Kodi instead of buying a Raspberry Pi 3 or something as I already had this PC, but sadly even watching movies is stuttery12:48
KiickiIt works as a media server I guess12:48
ph88^when i try this http://askubuntu.com/a/437053 i get  bash: Exec: command not found  how do i get the Exec command working ?12:56
ducasseph88^: what exactly are you running in the terminal?12:58
ph88^ducasse, awk -F= '/Exec=/{system($2)}' Vivado.desktop12:58
ducasseph88^: can you pastebin the desktop file?12:59
ph88^ducasse, https://bpaste.net/show/22e21bd8819413:00
ph88^oh i think i know why it goes wrong, because i have Exec= twice13:01
ducasseph88^: exactly.13:02
ph88^i have another question ducasse is that ok ?13:02
ducasseph88^: go on.13:02
ph88^i have this in my .bashrc file https://bpaste.net/show/68bdb4d49a9a13:03
ph88^this is because i'm not allowed to change my default shell in the proper way13:03
ph88^this used to work just fine, but since my computer crashed when i keep this piece of code in my .bashrc file then i can't login into the desktop (using gnome login screen)13:03
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ph88^ducasse, ^13:05
ducasseph88^: i'm not sure, tbh. sorry. maybe try a zsh channel?13:07
ph88^ok13:07
InvisibleRastahello guys i think i messed up my mbr and i had to boot into a live cd. how can i safely reinstall and reconfigure grub13:09
cfhowlett!grub | InvisibleRasta13:09
ubottuInvisibleRasta: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub213:09
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InvisibleRastai am actually on ubuntu tho13:10
InvisibleRastaits the only OS i can load13:10
InvisibleRastai have also windows and arch13:10
InvisibleRastasomehow i fked up the mbr13:11
cfhowlettthe steps to restore grub are there.  read.13:11
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InvisibleRastasomething is playing fishy tho. i reinstalled with sudo grub-install /dev/sda but grub customizer is not laoding13:14
einsteinhi13:14
InvisibleRastait was working earlier before the mbr messed up13:14
einsteinthere was a pyenv askubuntu answer that said that... use pyenv instructions? so where is htat question,? It wass cool13:14
cfhowlettthen you need to restore the mbr you backed up.13:14
InvisibleRastacfhowlett, i backed it up with sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/home/nico/mbr.img bs=446 count=113:17
InvisibleRastahow do i reput it13:17
einsteinsudo apt-get --fix-missing shows error/ the same with sudo --fix-missing as it's not recognised with other options13:17
einsteinbut surprisingly it's not even recognised alone!13:17
NeroonHi. Does anynone know why there is no sound using mplayer at the console playing online radio? Playing anything else works just fine13:17
einsteinso what's up with all this --fix-missing ?13:17
cfhowlettInvisibleRasta, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader13:18
akikInvisibleRasta: you replace the values for if= and of= and then you'll write to the mbr on the hard disk. but you need to be careful13:18
ducasseeinstein: apt-get install -f13:18
einsteinducasse: ok and there was a question asked too on askubutu that says hwo to install python3.6 ?13:20
einsteinand also multiple version using pyenv was the asnwer provided,I wanted to see that question13:20
ducasseeinstein: did you try searching askubuntu?13:20
cfhowlettthis!  ^^^13:20
einsteinI did , but failed13:20
einsteinsome one gave me that precious link here13:21
ducasseeinstein: then read the logs13:21
ducasse!logs13:21
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/13:21
einsteinI don't have ethem ducasse13:21
einsteinok13:21
einsteinducasse: my internet is too slow13:22
einsteinproble loading page, the same for searching in askubuntu13:22
cfhowlettso you want us to search FOR you --- cuz the questions was "cool"?  seriously?13:22
einsteinno i mean the answer was cool cfhowlett13:23
cfhowlettsearching the logs is much faster. start there.13:23
ducasseeinstein: use something like wget to grab the log, then search it offline13:23
slimjimflimhi, when i `sudo apt-get upgrade` i get http://pastebin.com/x7QUwK1M ... /boot is 100% ...what's the best way to free up some space on /boot?13:26
AboodymanHey!13:27
cfhowlettslimjimflim, clean out old kernels13:27
cfhowlettsudo apt autoremove   if in 16.0513:27
cfhowlett16.0413:27
AboodymanI have a problem13:27
cfhowlett!ask | Aboodyman13:28
ubottuAboodyman: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:28
phil123!patience13:28
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/13:28
poofromspaceAnybody who's using Mac OS on virtual machine?13:29
slimjimflimcfhowlett: seems legit, but when i run that i get: http://pastebin.com/3D2Y65q413:29
ducassepoofromspace: on a mac?13:29
cfhowlettpoofromspace, can only be done on a mac13:29
alumno14Hello boys13:29
slimjimflimrunning 16.04.213:29
ducassepoofromspace: that's illegal13:29
cfhowlettslimjimflim, ah, then you have to do it manually.  first: dpkg -l | grep linux-header*13:29
slimjimflimcfhowlett: k one sec13:30
phil123Hi, does anyone know a way to update Ubuntu silently from commanline without getting packages installed that where removed manually (libreoffice). I am using "do-release-upgrade -f DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive"13:30
poofromspaceIt isn't illegal. It's just a virtual machine.13:30
slimjimflimcfhowlett: i was going down that route...13:30
AboodymanI'm not able to use the APT command once o'ever everytime I try to use it it outputs this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24182627/13:30
alumno14 How are you guys? :)13:30
k1l_slimjimflim: first list all installed kernels with "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" then remove those unneded packages with "sudo dpkg -r packagename1 packagename2"13:30
poofromspaceI've used mountain lion once13:30
cfhowlettpoofromspace, it is illegal as even a cursory reading of the mac eula clearly states13:30
ducassepoofromspace: it is illegal if it's not on apple hardware13:30
x34dexit13:30
ducassepoofromspace: so it's not something we'll help you with13:31
slimjimflimcfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/nHGUXZ3J13:31
cfhowlettyou can virtualize mac OS on a MAC, poofromspace13:31
poofromspaceAlright.13:31
AboodymanI'm not able to remove them, I tried to remove them and it gives me the same output13:31
cfhowlettslimjimflim, spring cleaning time.  boot up your ubuntu US, chroot to your machine and manually apt-get purge the old kernels13:32
slimjimflim:(13:32
alumno14Que wea13:32
alumno14ctm13:32
alumno15.|.13:32
alumno14Send nudes13:32
cfhowlettslimjimflim, could be worse.  don't forget to retain to the two newest versions13:32
cfhowlettalumno14, wrong channel.  go away13:32
AboodymanI'm not able to use the APT command at all everytime I try to use it it outputs this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24182627/13:33
alumno14I have nudes13:33
cfhowlett!ops | alumno1413:33
ubottualumno14: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu13:33
slimjimflimcfhowlett: yea i know to keep the recent few. so when i get to chrooted i do `apt-get purge <some kernel package name>`?13:34
cfhowlettslimjimflim, yep13:34
slimjimflimhaven't done this in a while13:34
macgyver1hi guys anyone has epos intellipen? are there drivers for ubuntu?13:34
slimjimflimcfhowlett: and to chroot, i do that from grub right, at boot time?13:36
cfhowlettslimjimflim, no!  boot your USB normally.  once it's running, chroot to your system.13:37
slimjimflimoh13:37
slimjimflimthis sucks, but thanks13:38
cfhowlettchrooting from a hot system sounds "disarm the bomb" level dangerous13:38
slimjimflimlol ikr13:38
w9qbjchroot'd -on- a Sunserver once. If I'd been on a terminal I could have disconnected. but on the box I had to shutdown and reboot. It can be dangerous.13:40
slimjimflimw9qbj: cfhowlett it's local so i'm not too worried. i've done this before, except i've got full-disk encryption13:45
cfhowlettslimjimflim, then you'll likely need to decrypt before you can access the system.13:46
slimjimflimi know i've mounted full-disk encrypted hdds before from a usb/cd but, yea scary13:46
slimjimflimyep. i can google it13:46
cfhowletttake your time, think twice before you press enter.  and, of course, have the backup backed up13:46
macgyver1I installed ubuntu in dev/sdc, if i install another OS in dev/sda, will all operating systems work ok?13:47
EriC^^macgyver1: if everything is setup right (uefi vs legacy) yes13:48
EriC^^macgyver1: what are you installing in sda?13:48
macgyver1EriC what means uefi vs legacy?13:48
EriC^^!uefi | macgyver113:48
ubottumacgyver1: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI13:48
macgyver1EriC^^ I will install win10 in dev/sda and ubuntu in dev/sdc13:49
EriC^^macgyver1: ok you'll need to reinstall grub for ubuntu13:50
EriC^^!lostgrub | macgyver113:51
macgyver1EriC^^ how to reinstall grub?13:51
lotuspsychje!recovergrub | macgyver1 suggested by EriC^^13:51
ubottumacgyver1 suggested by EriC^^: Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub13:51
NeroonHi. Does anynone know why there is no sound using mplayer at the console playing online radio? Playing anything else works just fine13:51
macgyver1EriC^^ I tried this yesterday and had problem to reinstall13:52
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macgyver1EriC^^ It said grub cannot be installed please choose a different disk to install13:53
EriC^^macgyver1: are you in ubuntu right now?13:54
macgyver1Eric^^ yes now it works ok13:54
EriC^^macgyver1: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you here13:54
root___any play osu on ubuntu ?13:55
elliotbelliotdoes someone play CS GO here?13:55
lotuspsychjeelliotbelliot: try #gamingonlinux please13:56
macgyver1EriC^^ can I come prv?13:56
macgyver1EriC^^ today ubuntu is installed ok with grub but if I install the other OS it will have problem with grub, now with one OS is ok13:57
ducassemacgyver1: didn't you say earlier you installed ubuntu in uefi mode?13:58
k1l_macgyver1: what problem? and what other OS?13:58
macgyver1ducasse correct13:58
macgyver1now it works fine13:58
macgyver1kil_ I install two OS in two disks13:59
EriC^^macgyver1: run the command it should show some stuff14:01
pheonixvapehello everyone14:05
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pheonixvapehi14:06
pheonixvapeEriC^^: Hi there14:06
EriC^^hi pheonixvape14:07
pheonixvapei got ubuntu 16.04 working14:07
glitchdgood job^^14:07
pheonixvapeEriC^^: its me crypto14:08
macgyver1EriC^^ it shows my system and hard disks14:09
EriC^^pheonixvape: hi14:10
macgyver1EriC^^ can I come prv?14:10
ducasse!pm | macgyver114:10
ubottumacgyver1: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.14:10
EriC^^macgyver1: ok paste the link, no need talk in the channel it's better14:10
pheonixvapeEric^^ in order to get ubuntu working i made my usb a live bootable disk by using Ubuntu 13 Startup disk creator14:12
pheonixvapeand then it still didnt want to work but tried booting14:12
pheonixvapeand then it said gfxboot.c32 is not an image file14:12
macgyver1EriC^^ I explained prv14:13
macgyver1EriC^^ I have not installed yet other OS so I have only ubuntu14:14
macgyver1EriC^^ I use sdc for ubuntu and sda for other OS14:15
EriC^^macgyver1: ok, ubuntu is in uefi mode, is sda empty?14:15
EriC^^i'll paste the link you gave me here, ok?14:15
macgyver1EriC no14:15
macgyver1it is my system14:15
macgyver1profile14:15
EriC^^macgyver1: it doesn't have any personal info14:16
macgyver1EriC^^ sda is not empty but I deleted windows so I reinstall in sda14:16
k1l_macgyver1: that is "personal data" as you cars color.14:16
EriC^^macgyver1: ok, install windows just make sure it's in uefi mode14:17
EriC^^macgyver1: you probably want to use the manual partitioner so it doesn't remove sda114:17
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pheonixvapewhat the problem now?14:18
pheonixvape:)14:18
macgyver1EriC^^ the problem is with grub14:18
macgyver1what should I do if does not have grub?14:19
ducassemacgyver1: if nobody else can see your partition layout, they can't help, and there's nothing anyone can use maliciously there. if you have a problem with that it is really hard to help you.14:19
EriC^^macgyver1: after you install if you have a uefi menu choose ubuntu's efi file manually, or the ubuntu uefi entry and then once it's booted run "sudo grub-install; sudo update-grub"14:19
EriC^^macgyver1: if you can't get a uefi menu, then you need a live ubuntu usb to run efibootmgr and put ubuntu first in the list and then run update-grub once it's booted14:20
macgyver1EriC^^ the grub should be installed in sdc?14:21
EriC^^macgyver1: yeah as ducasse said if you dont show the info nobody here can help you out very efficiently14:21
pheonixvapesend screenshot14:21
EriC^^if you want to know exactly what you need to do you need to give info the helpers ask14:21
pheonixvapeyes please do14:21
macgyver1yes but I tell the needed info about sda, sdc  so why to show more details?14:21
EriC^^macgyver1: cause it shows more info, and possibly stuff that is mismatched, let's say you had a msdos partition table type for sda14:22
EriC^^it would take an eternity to figure out why "it's not working" without a paste14:22
pheonixvapeexactly what he said14:22
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ducassemacgyver1: if you really think we would try to cause harm, why are you here for help in the first place?14:23
EriC^^macgyver1: not saying be a dumbass about stuff, look at the commands wait for others responses, but if lots of people say it's safe then it's safe, they can't help you if you dont trust them enough to run some commands14:23
macgyver1the more details I give the more will confuse the reader14:23
EriC^^macgyver1: nah that's a lie, come on :P14:24
ducassemacgyver1: sorry, that's bulls**t14:24
macgyver1I just talk about one disk I dont speak aboutn all disks14:24
pheonixvapesend screenshots of your error14:24
k1l_macgyver1: thing is: there can be more details that are important than you might think. but since you dont want to give out informations (that are in no way private data) then you should seek personal real life support that you trust more.14:25
ducassemacgyver1: and how do you know you can trust EriC^^ and not the rest of us? (no offense, EriC^^ )14:25
macgyver1ducasse Because I talk about the problem not about the disks which not face problem14:25
macgyver1if I give you 5 disks and 1 has problem14:25
macgyver1you must search 1 from five14:26
macgyver1I just give 1 disk14:26
pheonixvapesending a screenshot allows the helper to identify more issues than the usual text can, similar to psychology. the user feels as if he/she is witnessing the problem14:26
EriC^^macgyver1: they're corelated though cause you're dual booting14:26
ducassemacgyver1: the efi partition can be on any one of them, and you can even have several14:26
macgyver1ok I give the 2 disks14:26
macgyver1ok here are the 2 disks  disk 1 Model: ATA HGST HTS545050A7 (scsi)14:27
macgyver1Disk /dev/sda: 500GB14:27
macgyver1Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B14:27
macgyver1Partition Table: gpt14:27
macgyver1Disk Flags:14:27
macgyver1Number  Start   End    Size   File system  Name                  Flags14:27
pheonixvapewhat exactly is the problem here?14:28
nicomachus!paste | macgyver114:28
ubottumacgyver1: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:28
macgyver1am I muted ?14:28
pheonixvapeno14:28
Piciyou were14:29
macgyver1well the efi system is in sdc14:29
macgyver1the sda has no efi partition14:29
macgyver1I have 2 disks sda and sdc14:29
macgyver1the efi is in sdc14:29
pheonixvapemacgyver1 please could you paste a screenshot to imgur14:29
macgyver1I also have sdb but I dont use it for boot14:29
macgyver1pheonixvape not screenshot available error happened yesterday now system works ok14:30
macgyver1pheonixvape error was in ubuntu grub installation14:30
macgyver1no screenshot available14:31
EriC^^macgyver1: which pc is this?14:31
macgyver1EriC^^ in the same pc14:31
macgyver1I did insallations yesterday too14:31
EriC^^no i mean the make of said pc14:31
macgyver1EriC^^ I made the same installation and had problem with grub214:32
macgyver1could not continue installation14:32
EriC^^macgyver1: it's booting now fine though? ubuntu?14:32
EriC^^which make is the pc? hp lenovo etc?14:33
macgyver1EriC^^ I reinstalled ubuntu14:33
macgyver1only14:33
macgyver1and it works fine14:33
macgyver1EriC^^ it is not a brand14:33
macgyver1it is custom14:33
macgyver1EriC^^ it has many disks14:33
lotuspsychje!enter | macgyver114:34
ubottumacgyver1: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.14:34
pheonixvapeubottu hello high you still think im not a bot14:34
ubottupheonixvape: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:34
pheonixvapeubottu i know youre not intelligent but you write english so what does that make you?14:34
ubottupheonixvape: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:34
EriC^^macgyver1: ok, install windows, then boot a live ubuntu usb and come back here14:35
PipeItToDevNullPlease do not mess with the bot, he will start leaking14:35
EriC^^you can follow this guide if you want to reinstall ubuntu14:35
EriC^^https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot14:35
EriC^^*reinstall grub14:36
macgyver1EriC^^ if I have the ability to install grub2 manually, will I install it to sdc?14:37
dmp450macgyver1: is sdc where your /boot directory is?14:37
EriC^^macgyver1: yeah, it wont really need an installation, the grub efi file will still be in sdc's efi partition, all you'll need to do really is change the efi list's boot order after installing windows14:38
EriC^^macgyver1: so you could do that with just using efibootmgr -o <new,boot,order,here> or you can chroot and run grub-install and it will automatically do that for you14:38
macgyver1EriC^^ I will try14:40
EriC^^it's easy, run sudo efibootmgr -v , get the list, then sudo efibootmgr -o <new,list>14:40
phil123Hi, does anyone know a way to update Ubuntu silently from commanline without getting packages installed that where removed manually (libreoffice)?. I am using "do-release-upgrade -f DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive"14:40
EriC^^macgyver1: you can try it right now to see what the list looks like and stuff14:40
macgyver1EriC^^ should I type grub install now?14:42
PaoloPolohi14:42
EriC^^macgyver1: no, just "efibootmgr -v"14:43
EriC^^you'll understand more what i mean14:43
macgyver1EriC^^ so the first device in boot order must be the efi partition14:45
macgyver1?14:46
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EriC^^yeah the first boot should be ubuntu's14:47
macgyver1I will come back later14:48
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alexandre__wesh14:52
alexandre__hi14:52
OnceMehow can I enable supervisor to run on startup?14:53
OnceMeI tried systemctl enable supervisor but its not working14:53
lotuspsychje!systemd | OnceMe14:54
ubottuOnceMe: systemd is the default init system for Ubuntu 15.04 onwards. For information on transitioning from upstart to systemd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers For a guide to basic service management with systemd, see https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units14:54
OnceMeyes I use systemctl14:54
testmanIf I access my synology NAS via smb from nautilus, I have no visible access rights (unknown) and then some applications think that they have no write access but I can save files. How can I change this?14:54
nwehow can I disable so it dont looking for i386 package ? I have setup my own apt-mirror, and it trying to access i386 package14:57
EriC^^nwe: sudo dpkg --remove-architecture i386 maybe?14:58
alexandre__!commands14:58
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. In Unity or GNOME, search the dash for "terminal" and press ENTER. Other desktops: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal (MATE), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal14:58
k1l_nwe: some packages like steam or wine request 32bit packages14:59
NeroonDoes anynone know why there is no sound using mplayer at the console playing online radio? Playing anything else works just fine15:00
lotuspsychjeNeroon: perhaps the #mplayer guys might know15:01
selckintry -ao alsa15:01
Neroonlotuspsychje: thanks, giving it a try :)15:01
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alexasdddhola?15:09
lotuspsychje!es | alexasddd15:10
ubottualexasddd: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:10
alexasdddhi15:10
alexasddd?15:10
alexasdddaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa15:10
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geniiHm15:12
daxnwe: sudo dpkg --remove-architecture i386, but that will render you unable to install some packages, as k1l_ said15:15
daxnwe: oh, EriC^^ beat me to it. never mind :s15:16
lotuspsychjedax: wanna join discuss again, we have a few jobs for you :p15:16
daxlotuspsychje: nope, channel list is already over a page, and thus total channel count needs to go down not up15:16
lotuspsychjedax: where to request triggers the, nothing happens without your aid15:17
nwedax: okey then I will sync i386 package too15:18
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daxlotuspsychje: #ubuntu-ops, but if nobody else is doing factoid management tasks I am unsure of how to fix that15:20
daxthe fix is probably not "have dax continue doing them"15:21
lotuspsychjedax: ive requested the triggers via ubottu procedure several times, also leaving requests in #ubuntu-ops also other volunteers tried this, without any change15:22
dax*nod*15:22
lotuspsychjedax: i hope the future will hold a better system to improve the #ubuntu support15:23
robbieusahi15:30
robbieusahow do i get steam os for 14.04lts using terminal15:30
nicomachusrobbieusa: steam OS? that's a whole operating system...15:31
robbieusaubuntu15:31
nicomachusrobbieusa: you can get the steam client15:31
robbieusai mean that sorry15:31
lotuspsychje!steam | robbieusa15:31
ubotturobbieusa: Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.15:31
robbieusaty15:32
nicomachusok. from a terminal, just do `sudo apt install steam` and you're all set15:32
robbieusaty15:32
* nicomachus really needs to cut the latency between his keyboard and his IRC term...15:33
john_doe_jrAccording to the link @ digital ocean if I do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade I should automatically have python3…I'm getting a "Can't find Python executable "python", you can set the PYTHON env variable"….where is python3 located on an Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?15:35
nicomachus!info python3 xenial15:35
ubottupython3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Version 3.5.1-3 (xenial), package size 8 kB, installed size 67 kB15:35
k1l_john_doe_jr: is python3 pacakge installed?15:35
nicomachusjohn_doe_jr: make sure you have python3 installed, not just python15:36
john_doe_jrI really just need the path that I need to put in the PYTHON env variable for python3?  Does anyone know what it would be in Ubuntu 16.04?15:37
k1l_john_doe_jr: is "python3" installed or not?15:37
quadHelix`which python3`15:37
john_doe_jrquadHelix: export PYTHONPATH=${PYTHONPATH}:`which python3`?15:40
john_doe_jrwould that set the PYTHONPATH?15:40
john_doe_jrcorrectly in a bash script?15:41
quadHelixi should not have piped up. K1l_ is correct.15:41
kartik_hey15:41
kartik_bts ?? bangtan boys15:41
quadHelixhe is still wondering if you have python3 installed :)15:41
coder-btsphew15:41
yhousehi15:41
coder-btsno...15:42
yhousehru15:42
davangerHi, so I've got a small server running ubuntu. Just for email and redid. I upgraded today and now I've got a snapd daemon running. Do I need this or can I remove it?15:42
lotuspsychjekartik_: can we help you?15:42
john_doe_jrpython3 is installed15:42
coder-btskartik_: just Bill.T.S15:42
john_doe_jrI just need the right export command15:42
davangerredis*15:42
kartik_coder-bts i thought you like kpop15:42
quadHelixjohn_doe_jr, i assume you have read this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/250929/pythonpath-environment-variable15:43
kartik_lotuspsychje, help me i have a math exam on 2015:43
lotuspsychjekartik_: you joined the ubuntu support channel here15:43
coder-btsdavanger: more specify15:43
kartik_ok, i love ubuntu....15:43
john_doe_jrexport PYTHONPATH=${PYTHONPATH}:`which python3` ….so this is the correct way to do it?15:43
davangerSorry?15:43
davangerspapd anyone? Is this needed for the OS?15:44
davangersnapd*15:44
quadHelixthe which command will tell you where the binary is.  add it to your path15:44
kartik_so this is some kind of support channel, where i can get help for anything related to ubuntu?15:44
lotuspsychje!info snapd | davanger15:44
ubottudavanger: snapd (source: snapd): Tool to interact with Ubuntu Core Snappy.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.23.1+16.10 (yakkety), package size 7331 kB, installed size 35468 kB15:44
ducassedavanger: it's needed to use snap packages15:44
coder-btsdavanger: i meant describe more spcifically15:44
k1l_john_doe_jr: on a standard ubuntu the pyhthon3 package will install the binary into /usr/bin/. that is what the command "which python3" will gell you.15:44
davangerI just use aptitude. Is this going away?15:44
coder-btsyou mentioned a daemon right?15:44
ducassedavanger: not any time soon, at least15:45
coder-btsso you got a ubuntu running on server15:45
davangerSo I can remove this safely then?15:45
ducassedavanger: which ubuntu are you on?15:45
davangerWhat ever is the latest TLS :)15:45
k1l_davanger: no, snap packages are not fundamental, except when you use snap packages. like for the livepatch service from canonical.15:45
coder-btsso what's the daemon you meant?15:45
coder-btsi didn/t get it15:45
davangersnapd15:46
davanger??15:46
ducassedavanger: if nothing you use depends on it, you can remove it15:46
k1l_davanger: snapd is the process for the snap packages.15:46
kartik_i dunno nothing about hexchat, someone help me15:46
davangerk1l_: are the system updates going to start coming through snap? No more apt?15:46
k1l_davanger: no. you are mixing things15:47
coder-btsdavanger: ooops i missed the word "snapd"15:47
lotuspsychjekartik_: please no random questions here15:47
kartik_ok....15:47
lotuspsychje!details | kartik_15:47
ubottukartik_: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.15:47
davangerOk, removing then... change what a pain in the arse ;)15:47
davangerThanks for the help guys15:48
k1l_davanger: ubuntu still uses apt and .deb pacakges. but they introduced a new pacakge format: snap.15:48
k1l_davanger: its additionally15:48
lotuspsychjedavanger: leaving snapd cant harm nothing really15:48
lotuspsychjedavanger: if your not going to install snap packages15:48
davangerApt doesn't have a daemon using resources...15:48
lotuspsychjedavanger: its your system mate, your the boss :p15:49
davangerI'm not a nice boss...15:49
davanger=)15:49
coder-btsdavanger: Ubuntu 16.10 fully support a new kind of application, it's snap, and that's where your snapd from, try snap if you would15:50
kartik_lotuspsychje ubottu .... i just installed hexchat ... i installed ubuntu 2 days ago, i dont understand what is going on, i joined this ubuntu freenode randomly, so here i can get any kind of help related to ubuntu ??? so you people can clarify it....15:50
davangerdoes it come with a front it like aptitude?15:50
k1l_coder-bts: not only since 16.10, even before that ubuntu supports snap15:50
davangerFrontend*15:50
k1l_davanger: it got own commands15:50
lotuspsychjekartik_: this is the #ubuntu channel you joined here, you can ask ubuntu related questions here15:51
davangerWhy ruin a good thing...15:51
davangerapt and aptitude is just fine15:51
k1l_davanger: https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/snappy15:51
lotuspsychjekartik_: other discussions then support will go to #ubuntu-offtopic15:51
coder-btsk1l_: really? i didn't notice15:51
ducassek1l_: here is how to get started with irc - http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Started-with-IRC-%28Internet-Relay-Chat%29 - we only do ubuntu support15:51
k1l_davanger: because there are limits to apt/.deb. that is why not only ubuntu got a new package system with snaps but others do try to create new systems, too15:51
ducassekartik_: here is how to get started with irc - http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Started-with-IRC-%28Internet-Relay-Chat%29 - we only do ubuntu support15:52
ducassek1l_: sorry :)15:52
k1l_:)15:52
coder-btsdavanger: usually, snap is considered as a type that can run on any version of Linux without re-making15:52
kartik_lotuspsychje : i have core i5 5200u with intel hd 5000 graphics, how do i install intell graphics driver ??15:52
davangerI'll stick with apt until I'm forced to go with snap...15:53
k1l_kartik_: they are included in ubuntu already15:53
davangerSounds good but too new ;)15:53
ducassedavanger: there is no either/or here15:53
coder-btsdavanger: true, so it's why i said "try snap if you would"15:53
davangerI will, when I have to. LOL!  Its a production server guys15:54
coder-btsLOL15:54
k1l_davanger: here is a example for snap in use on productionservers: https://www.ubuntu.com/server/livepatch15:55
davangerCan't remove it. Its part of ubuntu-core-launcher so I guess its staying15:55
kartik_k1l_ : i also have amd r9 m375 dedicated graphic card, it is somehow gcn 1.0 , that is not supported by 16.04 anymore, can i do something about it? help me i want to play games on ubuntu....15:55
coder-btsdavanger: keep it then15:56
coder-btsdevilray: no necessary to remove right? it won't eat you LOL15:56
davangerk1l_: thanks for that link. Livepatch sounds awesome. Is it free?15:57
Machusis there some GUI tool through which i can easily extract a number of pages from a pdf, and through which i can merge pdfs?15:57
k1l_kartik_: it is supported by ubuntu. its amd that stopped making fglrx and delivers amdgpu now. if you boot and amd still supports your card, then amdgpu is loaded. if amd dropped that cards because its too old the radeon will be used.15:57
k1l_davanger: free for 3 machines, yes15:57
k1l_davanger: see how bad snap is? :)15:58
ducasseMachus: don't know about gui, but check out pdftk15:58
davangerOk, will use.15:58
davangerAwful! Change is always bad, says my gramps :)15:58
Machusducasse: i know that, i need a gui version of it15:58
Machusor similar15:58
k1l_Machus: you can easyily extract pages from pdf when you print those pages to the included pdf printer.15:58
Machusk1l_, through evince?15:59
kartik_k1l_ : so i have to download amdpro software, bcuz my graphic card does'nt show anymore even though it's present15:59
k1l_Machus: every program on ubuntu can print to pdf15:59
k1l_kartik_: no15:59
scottjlMachus: pdfchain15:59
Machusah yes k1l_16:00
kartik_k1l_ : ok thnks bruh, you are very helpful guy16:00
k1l_kartik_: the linux kernel will see your card, if amd got support for it, the kernel will load "amdgpu". if amd trashed that card, the kernel will load the open source driver "radeon"16:00
Machusscottjl, wow pdfchain looks nice16:00
scottjlMachus: it's just a front end to pdftk16:01
coder-btsi am going to sleep16:01
coder-btsbye16:01
anddamis an alternative for diff supposed to be there? I'd like to have colordiff as the default diff16:02
anddamshould I just relink diff?16:02
Machusscottjl: in pdfchain, how would a command like "pdftk A=1.pdf B=2.pdf cat B1-359 A100-150 B360-end output out.pdf" be carried out16:02
scottjlMachus: no idea. i don't use pdfchain. you just asked for a gui app and that's what i found for you16:03
davangerI really hope this livepatch thing doesn't turn out to be mistake. I mean this thing is injecting directly into the kernel. So simple to install a rootkit. But anyways this could be done already to apt packages...16:06
phil123Hi, does anyone know a way to update Ubuntu silently from commanline without getting packages installed that where removed manually (libreoffice)?. I am using "do-release-upgrade -f DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive"16:07
similianhey guys is there a way to boot ubuntu in recovery mode if disk is full16:08
similianmy recovery system dies16:08
similianseems to be the root is full issue16:08
similiancan i boot with kind of a memory file system ?16:09
EriC^^similian: recovery mode > drop to root shell isn't working?16:09
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Random832similian, try editing the command line in grub and putting init=/bin/bash at the end16:16
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Random832that's not recovery mode per se, but it might be enough to let you delete some files16:16
naccphil123: 'update Ubuntu silently' as in release upgrade?16:17
Random832(note: bash doesn't seem to do some things with the terminal correctly when invoked in this way - in particular, I was unable to interrupt commands with ctrl-c. So be careful what you do)16:17
naccyes, the limits of the shell in the initramfs mean there is no job control (iirc)16:18
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phil123nacc: exactly16:18
phil123I removed LibreOffice before but as soon as I do a release Upgrade its back16:18
phil123I want to do this on multiple machines16:18
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naccphil123: the only way packages would be installed is if its got a reverse-depends/reverse-recommends from a metapackage (e.g., ubuntu-desktop)16:19
phil123nacc: I thought so, but how can I stop do-release-upgrade from installing the meta package16:19
phil123or is there a more manual way to upgrade ubuntu to a new version?16:19
phil123In debian you can just change the sources.list and youre fine16:20
phil123not sure about ubuntu16:20
naccphil123: no, it means you have teh meta-package installed already (probably)16:20
naccphil123: and maybe it's dependencies have changed16:20
phil123mmh okay, good point16:20
naccphil123: although in 17.04 at least, i don't see any relevant rev-deps immediately16:21
naccphil123: the do-release-upgrade method is the safest way; in desparate situations in the past I have done what Debian does, but I also am able to recover it myself when things don't go well.16:21
phil123nacc: I am going from 12.02 lts to 14.04 lts16:21
phil123nacc: ^^ I don't want recovery when it should run unattendet16:22
naccphil123: right, so you probably don't want to do it manually :)16:22
pheonixvapeI need help16:22
naccphil123: also, unattended release upgrades make me a bit scared16:22
naccphil123: it *should* be fine16:23
phil123nacc: Me too,  but it has to be done and I tested it a few times.16:23
naccphil123: can you just do the upgrade and then remove libreoffice again?16:23
phil123nacc: The machines are very similar and only for one purpose so I hope they all behave the same16:23
naccphil123: rather than trying to solve this? :)16:24
pheonixvapei get an error relating to software saying i have unmet dependencies16:24
phil123nacc: Thats my last resort! :)16:24
naccphil123: is it just this one package (libreoffice0?16:24
nacc!paste | use a pastebin and paste the exact command and output16:24
ubottuuse a pastebin and paste the exact command and output: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:24
naccpheonixvape: --^16:24
phil123nacc: No mulitple, thunderbird and so on, all this default desktop programs16:24
pheonixvapenacc ?16:24
pheonixvapeokay problem solved16:25
pheonixvapeno idea how tho16:25
naccpheonixvape: ah i see16:25
pheonixvapeso yea thanks for helping16:25
naccpheonixvape: so is ubuntu-desktop installed? that's what holds together a bunch of packages so upgrades go smoothly16:25
naccbah!16:25
naccphil123: --^16:26
pheonixvapeyes ubuntu-desktop is installed16:26
naccpheonixvape: sorry, not meant for you16:26
pheonixvapei am typing on hexchat16:26
pheonixvapeoh okay16:26
pheonixvapenacc was it meant for phil12316:26
naccpheonixvape: yes16:27
phil123nacc: I will have a look at it. I can probably find out all the dependencies, recommendations and remove what I can. Thanks for the idea :) I will come back if it doesn't work. Have a nice day!16:27
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naccphil123: good luck (`apt-cache rdepends` may help)16:29
phil123nacc: Thanks, will look into it16:30
amelia__hi16:42
Guy1524hey guys, i want my wine virtual drive directory to be my mounted real windows drive, I am trying to create a symbolic link from the mountpoint to drive_c folder in wine, but its not working16:43
PipeItToDevNullGuy1524, You want a Windows VM to mount a real NTFS drive?16:48
PipeItToDevNullAs its C drive?16:48
Guy1524nvm I got it16:50
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* cyber is away (Autoaway after 30 minutes) messages will be saved *gSXc*16:55
nicomachus!away > cyber16:59
ubottucyber, please see my private message16:59
similianEriC^^ no black screen reboot16:59
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Random832PipeItToDevNull, wine isn't a VM.17:04
Cyber_AkumaI have a heavily infected Windows machine that I have failed to disinfect and want to get files off of before nuking it. I figured the best way would be to use an Ubuntu livecd to transfer them to an external drive. Issue is, although the files are not executables and msotly photos, videos, and possibly documents, I don't want to copy infected data to the external drive. Any device on what to17:07
Cyber_Akumado?17:07
PipeItToDevNullCyber_Akuma, Copy them off then run ClamAV on the media17:08
Chunkyzanyone know what this error is? http://pastebin.com/JF0JvjAG17:09
ducasseChunkyz: it's not important, don't worry about it17:09
llutzChunkyz: there is no error, its a warning17:09
Chunkyzllutz, warning for what and how do I fix it?17:10
llutzChunkyz: you don't, ignore it17:10
ChunkyzI'd rather fix it...17:11
ducasseChunkyz: intel released a new driver, but not the firmware. as i said, ignore it.17:11
dragonmaster_admanyone give me a hand pxe booting Ubuntu using a kickstart file? I have an existing pxe server that does Windows, CentOS, Red Hat, Vmware and would hate to change everything just to do Ubuntu17:18
naccdragonmaster_adm: ubunt doesn't fully support kickstart syntax17:19
naccdragonmaster_adm: it uses preseed17:19
naccdragonmaster_adm: but you don't need to change your infrastructure other than passing the correct file17:19
dragonmaster_admit does not fully support but it should do enough for what I need; If I have to do preseed I will but was trying to hack it to keep it simple17:20
naccdragonmaster_adm: ok17:21
naccdragonmaster_adm: what have you tried?17:21
dragonmaster_admappend ks=http://$IPADDRESS/ks/ubuntutest.cfg  initrd=ubuntu14045/initrd.gz17:21
dragonmaster_admand then my kickstart file is literally this17:22
dragonmaster_adminstall url --url http://$IPADDRESS/ubuntu1405/ubuntu17:22
naccdragonmaster_adm: use a pastebinit17:22
nacc*pastebin17:22
dragonmaster_admhttp://pastebin.com/5Fv2bw2s17:23
dragonmaster_admit fails cause it says trying to mount  the cdrom when there is no cdrom17:23
dragonmaster_admit's a vmware based vm; using http install17:23
naccdragonmaster_adm: which initrd/kernel are you using?17:23
naccdragonmaster_adm: it appears you are passing a netboot kernel and the regular initrd17:24
naccdragonmaster_adm: you need to use both from the netboot17:24
dragonmaster_admlet me try that17:24
R0d0n_\quit17:26
dragonmaster_adm@nacc can I make a donation to your charity17:26
naccdragonmaster_adm: yw :)17:27
dragonmaster_admdude 4 fucking hours man...17:27
naccdragonmaster_adm: if that's being auto-generated, it might mean a bug in the generator; you shouldn't ever be mixing and matching kernels & initrds17:27
dragonmaster_admi am going to double check; i did alter some stuff by hand but i don't think messed with that17:28
dragonmaster_admyou are awesome!17:28
dragonmaster_admthank you so so much17:28
DatzHi, I'm getting a message "In order to use Pandora internet radio, please install Adobe Flash (v.10 or later)." with Chromium. I know I have flash player installed. Does Chromium use its own plugin for flash?17:29
naccdragonmaster_adm: you're welcome; have a good day!17:29
dilacan i install GLIBCXX_3.4.21 along side my Ubuntu 15.04 version?17:29
dilaif so, how?17:29
dilaDatz: yes, it does. Adobe no longer maintain a linux version of flash afaik17:30
DatzOk, so I download flash from their website and install it manually?17:30
dilano way17:30
dilaits full of remote code execution bugs17:30
Datzso what do I do?17:31
dilahave you tried Google Chrome?17:31
DatzI'm using Chromium17:31
dilawell yeh17:31
dilatry Chrome17:31
kostkon!flash | Datz17:31
ubottuDatz: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash17:31
dilaImportError: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.21' not found (required by /data/util/SageMath/local/lib/libntl.so.25)17:31
dilacan i fix this by installing the correct glibc?17:31
Datzdila: Should I try Gnash?17:32
dilai don't know what Gnash is17:32
Datz!Gnash17:32
ubottuGnash is an open-source Flash replacement. It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/17:32
akikdila: yes, adobe maintains their flash player for linux17:32
dilaoh, well isn't that great17:32
DatzOk, so what should I do then?17:32
ducassedila: 15.04 is eol17:32
DatzGnash, chrome, Adobe flash?17:33
mvvvvDatz with firefox you can use the last adobe flash plugin17:33
dila"Adobe has announced that it plans to start supporting  Adobe Flash for Linux — 4 years after it abandoned Flash on Linux."17:33
dilaSEPTEMBER 5, 201617:33
kostkonDatz, adobe flash, the package you need to install is called 'flashplugin-installer'17:33
ducasseDatz: try installing pepperflashplugin-nonfree17:33
Datzmvvvv: I'm using firefox, but pandora has these skips or hiccups in the music which I'm trying to troubleshoot17:33
diladoes anyone know about this glibc issue?17:34
Datzkostkon: that's installed17:34
dilais glibc bound to the kernel and cannot be replaced/upgraded?17:34
trapchatwasnt html 5 supposed to put flash to rest?17:34
mvvvvDatz Ubuntu is shipped with adobe 2517:34
ducassedila: as i said, 15.04 is eol17:34
diladucasse: end-of-life?17:34
dilai can't upgrade this system17:34
DatzCan I use HTML5 instead of flash?17:34
ducasseDatz: try installing pepperflashplugin-nonfree, it's the chrome flash plugin for chromium17:34
diladucasse: but how is that related to my problem?17:35
Datzducasse: thanks, I'll try that.17:35
trapchathtml 5 works fine on you tube17:35
ducassedila: it's no longer supported or maintained at all17:35
dilai still have stuff broken from going 14.x -> 15.x, i dont plan to upgrade again...17:35
Datztrapchat: would it work for pandora?17:35
kostkondila, we do not support eol versions17:35
mvvvvDatz what is the version you have with firefox ?17:35
trapchati dont know whats pandora17:35
Datzmvvvv: 5217:35
dilakostkon: you mean you refuse to answer my question because it's no longer supported?17:36
Datzoh of flash..17:36
mvvvvDatz, https://www.adobe.com/fr/software/flash/about/17:36
dilathe question is really a yes or no question17:36
Datzmvvvv: 24,0,0,22117:36
kostkondila, yeap17:36
ducassedila: we don't support it because we do not want to encourage people running insecure software, nor do we want the headaches of supporting that17:36
scottjlducasse: you support it as far as running the installer, bugs within the software are adobe's business.17:37
dilawell i don't really care if i get a solution from someone involved in the ubuntu project, or just another user17:37
trapchatducasse: some hardware isnt supported on the new ubuntu versions17:37
Datztrapchat: Pandora is a music streaming service.17:37
naccscottjl: talking about something else (15.04 vs. adobe)17:37
mvvvvDatz, you can upgrade to 2517:37
ducassescottjl: he's not talking about flash, he wants help with vivid17:38
Datzmvvvv: ok, I'd have to manually update it?17:38
naccdila: you're in the ubuntu support channel, only suported versions are ontopic, sorry17:38
scottjlmy bad17:38
dilawell that sounds like a joke17:38
diladoes the ubuntu support channel advise me to upgrade to 16.x17:38
mvvvvDatz, what is your ubuntu version ?17:38
kostkondila, 16.04.217:38
trapchatdila try the ubuntu foruns17:38
scottjlwhy would the support channel support unsupported versions?17:38
ducassedila: up to 16.x or down to 14.0417:38
Datzmvvvv: 16.04.217:38
dilaah, down to 14.04 might be better17:39
scottjldila: you do realize that everyone here is simply a volunteer sitting here answering questions on their own free time right? not like we are paid support17:39
naccdila: and down to 14.04 is a reinstall17:39
naccdila: there is no downgrade path17:39
dilascottjl: yes, and there are many other projects like it17:39
naccdila: but your machine has not been getting security updates (or any updates!) for a while now17:39
dilaok thanks, i did not realize this17:39
naccdila: that's a pretty serious thing to correct in your knowledge ... i would read the release notes of whatever you install (which clearly state the length of support) in the futgure17:40
nacc*future17:40
kostkondila, in theory, you can upgrade to 15.10 and then 14.04, if you are willing to upgrade twice, one being from eol -> eol, it's probably going to get messy17:41
dilanacc: yes, but i'm not making an official support requet17:41
nacckostkon: i assume you meant 16.04?17:41
dilai'm going to try upgrading from 15.x to 16.x17:41
nacc!eolupgrade | dila17:41
ubottudila: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:41
naccdila: you will have to do two upgrades, as kostkon said17:42
kostkonnacc, he/she's on 15.04 so the shortest upgrade path to a support release is 14.0417:42
ducassedila: the thing that is most likely to mess up an upgrade are ppas17:42
kostkonsupported*17:42
dilaok, ppas are the repositories?17:43
ducassekostkon: he can't go to 14.0417:43
Datzmvvvv: doesn't look like v25 of flash is in the repos yet17:43
mvvvvDatz, the package is flashplugin-installer I can't tell you what is the version for 16.04 but for 16.10 it's 25.017:43
dilathis has already been upgraded from 14.x and when i lift my laptop lid the X desktop doesn't appear anymore. i have to switch tty and kill the xserver to restart it17:43
Datzmvvvv: ah, I see17:44
nacckostkon: what?17:44
ducassekostkon: that would be a downgrade, and that is not supported17:44
nacckostkon: that's not true, you can't 'upgrade' to an older release17:44
kostkonducasse, oh yeah, 15.04, my bad17:44
Datzmvvvv: should I uninstall the package and install the upddate manually through adobe's site?17:44
kostkonducasse, I meant 16.0417:44
Datzmvvvv: Or can I have both versions installed at the same time without problem?17:45
ducasseDatz: which browser do you want flash for?17:45
mvvvvDatz, you should have 25 : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/flashplugin-installer/25.0.0.127ubuntu0.16.04.117:45
Datzducasse: I guess I want to try it with FF first17:46
dilaAn upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool.17:46
dilanow i see what you mean17:46
dilacan i run "do-release-downgrade"17:46
Datzmvvvv: I just ran an update. I didn't see it, but it installed 2517:46
ducassedila: no, you need to modify the sources as explained in the link from ubottu17:46
dilaok thanks17:47
Datzmvvvv: do I have to restart FF for it to take effect?17:47
mvvvvDatz, yes17:47
Datzok, thanks17:47
* Datz hopes for no more hiccups17:48
dilathis looks like it would be a massive mistake17:49
dilaok thanks for the support :)17:49
Datzmvvvv: still hiccups in the music, anything else you can think of?17:51
Datzor anyone else for that matter17:51
mvvvvDatz, no sorry, at least you 've tested with last version17:51
Datzmvvvv: yes17:51
DatzI wonder if it could be process priority, or audio drivers?17:52
Datzoh.. so annoying17:52
mvvvvDatz, you should find a HTML5 site17:52
mvvvvadobe is dying17:52
DatzI wonder if pandora is upgrading..17:52
Datzlooks like it does support HTML517:53
qwebirc782742kickstart guy back..anyway to override weak password without a seed file?17:53
naccdila: you cannot downgrade. and you have to manually do the upgrades17:53
dilai see17:54
dilawelp, thanks17:54
* cyber is still away (Autoaway after 30 minutes). *gSXc*17:55
DatzIf the music streaming web service site I use supports html5, what do I have to do to take advantage of it?18:06
meandmemeandme18:12
ducasseDatz: depends on the site, i would think, but if you disable flash it should default to html518:13
meandmehi is anybidy here?18:13
fukwadyes18:13
lotuspsychje!ask | meandme18:13
ubottumeandme: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:13
Datzducasse: ok, thanks I'll try that18:13
meandmewow18:13
meandmewhere are you from?18:13
fukwadim from the interweb18:14
meandme!patiense18:14
meandmeoh, so I'm too18:14
berbashhey18:15
lotuspsychjemeandme: you have joined the ubuntu support channel, you can ask ubuntu questions here18:15
ducassemeandme: this is not a chat channel, we do ubuntu support. for chat, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic or #chat18:15
berbashi need some help to use zentyal18:15
fukwadyawn rules.....18:15
ducasseberbash: you'd better just ask your question18:16
ldnpubHi, I'm translating a paper for the next ubucon in france, and i'm wondering how to translate something on "proper english". The idea is to describe the philosphy of FLOSS but regarding every topic ...18:22
ldnpubcan someone help me ?18:22
Southern_Gentlemldnpub, google18:24
naccldnpub: sorry, are you asking to translate "proper english" (the phrase) to French? Or an entire document?18:25
naccldnpub: i suppose either way it's not really a support topic18:25
ldnpub@nacc i have a whole document... i'd like to translate the idea of free software as a philosophy. as in freedom not free of charge ^^18:28
ldnpubi have a document in french to translate in english18:28
Dworfany ideas how i should bypass schools block for using putty to my own domain?18:29
Dworfworks only for school domain from certain rooms18:29
Narwhaalmade fun of for using apt-get ? don't worry, apt will break your system even more!18:29
ducasseDworf: we don't really support breaking school policies18:29
naccNarwhaal: ?18:30
scottjldwoft: go to a different school ;-)18:34
naccscottjl: they left18:35
scottjlya got the notice after i hit return18:35
Dworfok, sorry for asking :D18:38
_dreamerHello, something terrible has happened. I cannot login and not even guest session is working18:42
Narwhaaltime to ctrl+alt+f118:42
_dreamerFor some reason the same password Ive been using all the time does not work when trying to login18:42
Narwhaalor livedisk and chpass18:43
Narwhaalchroot + chpass18:43
hexafractionHello, I'm having a bit of trouble with losing the ability to make any NVidia CUDA calls after coming back from suspend18:43
hexafractionEverything else related to graphics works18:43
Narwhaalhexafraction: does it freeze the system ?18:44
hexafractionI'm aware that there is a workaround using nvidia-smi to put the card into EXCLUSIVE_PROCESS compute mode, but I need to be able to perform CUDA computation from multiple processes so that's a definite no-go for me; I'm not sure if it actually works on my system18:44
_dreameromg18:44
_dreamerty18:44
_dreamerit was my caps light not working -.-18:44
Narwhaalso you used SHIFT then ?18:44
_dreamerwhy I cannot access the guest session is a mistery, maybe I've disabled it :P18:44
hexafractionNarwhaal: No, any CUDA call that I make throws an error; the call cudaGetErrorString(err) for the error returns "unknown error"18:45
hexafractionThe value of cudaError_t returned seems to be consistently 3018:45
Narwhaaland cudaGetErrorString si unknown ?18:46
Narwhaalis *18:46
Narwhaalhm18:46
_dreamernope it wasn't18:46
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nacchexafraction: but rebooting fixes it?18:47
_dreamerstill cannot login from the interface18:47
hexafractionnacc: that's correct18:47
_dreamerbut the backen works just fine18:47
nacchexafraction: sounds like a bug in the nvidia driver18:47
hexafractionNarwhaal: Yes, that's also correct, it returns "unknown error"18:47
Narwhaalhexafraction: check toolkit vs driver version18:47
NarwhaalI helped a guy on mint with something very similar18:47
Narwhaaldunno if it could be the same18:47
_dreamerhow come I can't login from the desktop, but in the terminal it works :S18:48
Narwhaal_dreamer: personally I don't know. maybe someone with more experience(?) could help18:48
ducasse_dreamer: try looking at your ~/.xsession-errors18:48
hexafractionDriver is 367, driver is 7.5.18; is there a mapping I'm not aware of?18:48
Narwhaallike that guy18:48
Narwhaalhexafraction: you should check if that toolkit's not mismatched with the driver18:49
Narwhaalalso after (or before) checking that, check cuda-memcheck18:50
Narwhaalbasically check for out of bound mem accesses in shared18:50
k1l_hexafraction: reload the driver moduls18:50
naccNarwhaal: why would any of that be the root cause if rebooting fixes it?18:51
hexafractionk1l_: My Nvidia card is also my primary display device.18:51
k1l_hexafraction: on resume sometimes the hardware is not ready when the kernel wants to load the module and that is why stuff doesnt work18:51
Narwhaalnacc: just checking :)18:51
Narwhaalcan't be sure18:51
naccNarwhaal: it doesn't make sense, though.18:51
NarwhaalI know but I'm thorough18:51
hexafractionHow exactly would I go about reloading the module? rmmod then insmod?18:52
k1l_hexafraction: modprobe18:52
hexafractionAccording to http://stackoverflow.com/a/30820690/1424875 driver version is properly matched18:52
naccif that works, i wonder if it'd be worth putting it in the s/r path to unload and reload the module18:52
geniihexafraction: sudo modprobe -r modulename   to remove. sudo modprobe modulename  .. to load it again18:52
k1l_hexafraction: you said it worked before the suspend, right?18:53
hexafractionk1l_: Yes, it did18:53
hexafractionlet me try reloading themodule; if I lose connectivity/suddenly reboot my ZNC should pick up any messages I may miss18:53
k1l_hexafraction: so there should not be a driver missmatch suddenly. so i guess reloading the module is worth a try since that is a common issue on resume18:54
_dreamerhttp://imgur.com/a/Rje3z18:54
hexafractionsudo modprobe -r nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia returns silently (exit code 0) but no change18:54
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heywoodhi all. running xenial (16.04.1 LTS) on an Intel NUC and having trouble getting sound into the box. under the "input" tab of the "sound" panel of system settings, the "record sound from" panel is empty. how would i get it to use the line in?18:55
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_dreamer.xsession_error http://imgur.com/a/Rje3z18:55
ducasse_dreamer: and what does that tell you? (look at the second line up from the bottom)18:56
_dreamerwhy does this os fuck me over all the time? would it help if I uninstall all my radeon drivers?18:56
_dreamerthats the only thing i've done so far18:56
ducasse!language | _dreamer18:56
ubottu_dreamer: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList18:56
_dreamersorry!18:56
Narwhaalhexafraction: I think that modprobe would give error if module didn't load. maybe check lsmod18:56
NarwhaalI haven't had to manually use modprobe in a while18:56
hexafractionlsmod | grep nv gives me nvidia_uvm, nvidia_drm, nvidia_modeset, and nvidia18:57
nacchexafraction: you might need to unload them all?18:57
naccand load them all in the correct order18:57
hexafractionTrying so right now18:57
hexafractionI'd assume that I need to determine the order from the way they list each other as dependencies?18:58
Narwhaalyea18:58
ducasse_dreamer: "unity7 main process terminated with status 1" means that unity had an error and exited, which will throw you back to the login screen.18:58
hexafraction14:56 < _dreamer> why does this os fuck me over all the time? would it help if I uninstall all my radeon drivers?      │mdio                   16384  1 alx18:58
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Narwhaalgod I'm trying to help in like 9 different support channels >.<18:58
ikoniahexafraction: stop please18:58
hexafractionSorry, I accidentally pasted in terminal18:58
hexafractionI'm apparently quite clumsy with byobu/tmux. I'll try removing the modules in hte correct order now18:59
Narwhaalhexafraction: don't worry, I use cinnamon and I have an eyesight problem so I can't see which window I'm in. sometimes I'll type IRC messages in terminal and vice versa :/19:00
_dreameryes, I know it is doing that, but what would be the remedy?19:03
hexafractionI can't seem to remove the modules; nvidia_drm is a dependency of drm, which is in use (nvidia_uvm also in use)19:04
hexafractionI can19:04
hexafractionI can't even sudo rmmod --force because I get a "resource temporarily unavailable"19:04
nacchexafraction: yeah, you probably can't from within an x session :)19:04
hexafractionThat's what I figured19:04
ducasse_dreamer: well, you can try looking at the x logs, to see if that is the root cause.19:04
h0lybytehmm19:05
_dreamerwhy does these annoying issues always keep appearing in this os?19:06
_dreamerextremely timeconsuming19:06
_dreamernothing ever fully just works19:06
pythonist_lfshey. on Ubuntu 14.04 with kernel 4.4.0-41, turbostat won't work. How can I enable Intel Turbo Boost on Ubuntu 14.04 with i5 1st gen CPU?19:06
ducasse_dreamer: in my experience, they're often down to problems with poorly supported hardware or user error.19:07
_dreameryes19:07
_dreamerthat is what I am thinking, because the only change I've made is installing radeon drivers19:07
_dreamerand I bet they have something to do with this19:08
nacc_dreamer: what do you mean by 'installing radeon drivers'?19:08
ducasse_dreamer: radeon drivers come with the kernel, should not require installation.19:08
_dreamerbecause the software from standard sources usually works just fine19:08
nacc_dreamer: which version of ubuntu?19:08
_dreamer16.0419:08
_dreamerI took the drivers from amd homepage19:08
_dreamerlatest19:08
nacc_dreamer: why?19:08
ducasse_dreamer: that's a bad idea19:08
_dreamerand followed installation instructions19:08
nacc_dreamer: did you have a specific reason to?19:08
_dreamerI wanted the latest drivers?19:09
nacc...19:09
ducasse!latest | _dreamer19:09
ubottu_dreamer: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.19:09
nacc_dreamer: so you had no reason to?19:09
_dreamerhow should I know that it would result in this?19:09
nacc_dreamer: as in nothing was broken?19:09
_dreamerno19:09
nacc_dreamer: using AMD's random stuff, please ask them to support you then :)19:09
nacc_dreamer: or use the bits that are actually tested together, which is what Ubuntu provides you19:09
_dreamerhow can it be random when it says they are for linux?19:09
nacc_dreamer: random relative to ubuntu19:10
nacc_dreamer: and not supported here, afaict19:10
nacc_dreamer: basically you took a working isntallation, and for the fun of it, added something that made it not the same distribution anymore (its not ubuntu now)19:10
_dreamerwell, it should be mentioned somwhere... is there a chance someone could be kind enogh to help me solve this? Pretty please :)?19:10
nacc_dreamer: that is "why ... these annoying issues always keep appearing in this os"19:11
_dreamerindeed19:11
nacc_dreamer: remove the amd drivers, probably19:11
ducasse_dreamer: follow uninstall instroctions from where you got the drivers19:11
ducasse*instructions19:11
_dreamerwell, at least it seems from the way you guys reacted that this must be the issue19:12
_dreamerthank you19:12
hexafractionI'll just disable suspending for now and see if I can find any more info, perhaps through ##cuda or the NVidia forums. Thanks for the suggestions so far19:18
craptalkis anyone having problem with resuming the screen after hibernation? i have been looking for the answer here for couple weeks, but still nothing. i have been following this type of kernel bug ubuntu forum https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelHibernate. btw i have ubuntu-gnome 16.04 LTS, and AMD A12  CPU also AMD R7 graphic card on my laptop19:21
craptalkif anyone knows, please let me know. Thank you19:22
MediocreNcraptalk: as in it freezes, or as in?19:23
craptalkMediocreN: it freezes for infinite period of time19:24
SemiNushi19:24
craptalkhad to hard reset all over again19:24
SemiNuswhat is the name / the path of the "httpd" binary in ubuntu please19:24
SemiNus# strace -o /tmp/outputfile -s 5000 httpd -X19:24
SemiNusstrace: Can't stat 'httpd': No such file or directory19:24
nedstarkis ubuntu the only distro using avahi?  how come i only see the warning message about .local domains in ubuntu and not other ubuntu-based distros?19:28
ducasseSemiNus: which ubuntu version, and which web server?19:29
SemiNusApache2 / Ubuntu 16.04 @ ducasse19:29
ducasseSemiNus: then it's /usr/sbin/apache219:29
nedstarkappears this avahi issue goes back to at least 2010 on ubuntu19:29
SemiNusthank you ducasse19:30
ducasseSemiNus: no problem19:30
nedstarki'll just uninstall that crap19:30
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Guest9933Hello! I am trying to set up a web server for a tiny website. But index files needs to read form a css, fonts and img folder in /var/www (it is also in var/www), but it seems that it can't. It works when I set the folders using "chmod 777" but this is a public website so I don't want to do that. What rights does it need? 644 did not work. https://hastebin.com/oyonizoyac.css <- the rights19:38
ppfGuest9933: www-data needs to be able to read it19:38
Guest9933but www-data can already read from there19:40
Guest9933all the other files except that website (some test php sites) works19:40
ppfyou need +x to enter a directory19:41
* nacc is convinced that about 50% of the time someone says 'www-data can already read from there', they are going off what they think should be the case, not actually testing as the www-data user19:44
naccppf: and that you are probably correct as to the root cause19:45
ppfnacc: i think the percantage is much higher19:50
naccppf: could be :)19:53
rx-determinehello19:54
rx-determineanyone to talk19:56
SmilexWhere is the X server log?19:56
ducasserx-determine: plenty of people here, just ask your question19:56
ducasseSmilex: /var/log19:56
rx-determineok19:56
Smilexducasse: /var/log/Xorg.0.log isn't the newest. At least I think19:57
naccit might actually be in ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log now19:58
craptalkeverytime i launched vmware, it gives warning "NO 3D acceleration...", what does it mean? i got AMD R7, is it not being enabled by default? or is it that i have not installed on my machine yet?19:58
ducasseSmilex: check the timestamp?19:58
craptalki think my machine already recognized my AMD GPU, since i saw it already19:58
Smilexducasse: oh it is correct. Thanks19:59
ducassenacc: not on any release i'm running (16.04->17.04), but it might on debian aiui19:59
naccducasse: oh i recall what it is -- you can have per user greeters i was testing at some point, i think20:00
naccducasse: but by default, you're right, sorry20:00
Delvien.20:00
ducassenacc: np, the details around that have me a bit confused :)20:01
heywoodon 16.04.1 LTS, i can't get line in to work on my host. in the regular "sound" control panel, the "record sound from" box is empty. and in pavucontrol, the only port i can select from the dropdown menu says "microphone (unplugged)", even though i have a line plugged in (and the monitor level jumps up briefly when i plug or unplug it). what gives?20:01
momkenhello20:06
momkenI have an HP Elitebook 8470p laptop which I recently bought an HP Sierra un2430 mobile broadband card for it20:07
momkenThis card works in windows and I can connect to 3G network with it, but not in ubuntu20:07
momkenI tried a lot to make it work in ubuntu but no luck!20:08
rx-determinethere is a comand to know the specs20:09
rx-determineof the hardware20:09
rx-determinetry in your computer20:09
rx-determineand the search for the cmd in ubuntu20:09
rx-determinethats how i did to my geforce, your netwoork might be the same20:10
OerHeksmomken, and what did you try already? what is the lspci/lsusb ID ?20:10
greglmomken, Did you install the drivers for the card20:10
momkenActually this mobile broadband card is not very fast, however it is one of the few mini pcie cards compatible with my laptop. Other cards won't work due to bios rejection20:10
momkengregl: I installed the driver in windows and it worked. But there exists no driver for ubuntu/linux at all20:11
momkenOerHeks: I have searched a lot about that card (un2430) in the internet. It is a Qualcomm Gobi 3000 series device.20:12
greglmomken, I just googled the card and there is drivers for it..20:12
OerHeksmomken, give us the lspci ID please, names are just names20:13
momkenIf I reboot into windows and then reboot back into ubuntu, then it will work out of the box by creating a new "mobile-broadband" connection20:13
momkenOerHeks: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 03f0:371d Hewlett-Packard20:13
momkenOerHeks: Thank you for help20:14
geniiOerHeks: The Gobi cards require the Windows firmware, and gobi-loader to load it.20:14
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momkenI don't know why I got so obsessed to make this card work. Maybe because I expected it to work before purchasing it! :(20:15
momkengenii: As long as I know gobi-loader works only on Gobi 2000 devices. Anyway I have gobi-loader installed too, but no luck20:15
ioriamomken, maybe this can help a bit  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gobi_Broadband_Modems20:16
OerHekshttp://hp-elitebook-2540p.blogspot.nl/ gives gobi tool, and howto get the windows firmware20:16
momkenMy main problem is that the card is not detected as /dev/ttyUSB or /dev/ttyACM20:16
momkenioria: I have read that "ArchLinux" wiki previously20:17
geniimomken: It should work on any 2000-series. But you need also to put the firmware someplace like /lib/firmware/gobi/20:17
OerHeksioria, +120:17
momkengenii: I have did that20:17
geniiThe Vendor:device will change if it loads successfully20:17
momkengenii: Really? R U sure? to what?20:18
geniimomken: I forget, but I went through all this with my Gobi 2000 before20:18
michal__hello all20:19
KiickiOerHeks Do you know if AMD Catalyst or fglrx is supported in Ubuntu 14.04.5?20:19
ioriamomken, you can get the firmware from here https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gobi-firmware/20:20
OerHeksfglrx is supported, iirc20:20
OerHekscheck the drivers tool20:20
momkengenii: I have put 3 files in /lib/firmware/gobi already: amss.mbn, ImageInfo.xml & uqcn.mbn. There was no apps.mbn in Sierra Drivers' folder in windows20:20
KiickiNice, will give 14.04.5 a go. was going to run 14.04.2 as I thought that was the latest that supported it.20:21
momkenioria: Those are for gobi 2000 wwan chipset. It is a gobi 3000 card20:21
geniimomken: The gobi-loader package installs /lib/udev/rules.d/60-gobi.rules , you might have to add your specific vendor:device there as well20:22
momkengenii: I have added this line to /lib/udev/rules.d/60-gobi.rules already: ATTRS{idVendor}=="03f0", ATTRS{idProduct}=="371d", RUN+="gobi_loader $env{DEVNAME} /lib/firmware/gobi"20:23
momkengenii: gobi-loader can be run directly too, but it gives this error:20:24
SkeeterHi all. My sound won't work. Can any of you help? For some reason, alsamixer works only as root, "aplay -l" shows no sound cards, and lspci says I have a "Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)"20:25
Skeeter(Just upgraded to Ubuntu 16.04)20:26
momkengenii: gobi_loader is located in /lib/udev20:27
momkengenii: But I guess it only works when the modem is available as /dev/ttyUSB*20:27
SmilexI have the proprietary nvidia driver installed. How can I change it so that it doesn't blink the nvidia logo a few times when I boot?20:28
Skeeter?20:29
geniimomken: No, the modem won't show as a ttyUSB device until after it's firmware is loaded ( which is what gobi_loader does)20:30
OerHeksSkeeter, does your bios have an sound option, intel c200 <> AC'97 ?20:30
OerHeksAC'97 works normally fine20:30
SkeeterI'm not sure what you mean or how to check it. But it did work before I upgraded to 16.04.20:31
geniimomken: Did you try the -2000 option in the udev file?20:31
geniimomken: Also, the firmware files, did you copy them over from your Windows installed system, or from some other place?20:32
momkengenii: I have not tested -2000 yet. But currently I have rebooted from windows and my mobile-broadband is detected by network-manager and connected. But still no ttyUSB20:33
michal__hello, do someone know can i move ubuntu to other machine? i mean everything, without configuring again ?20:33
michal__i read some manuals on the web but its about old ones20:33
OerHeksmichal__, same hardware? then you can.20:34
momkengenii: Yead, the *.mbn files are copied from C:/Program Files (x86)/Sierra Wireless/...20:34
backboxola20:34
SkeeterNo help? mmf.20:34
backboxhelp20:34
backboxno20:35
backboxbackbox20:35
OerHeks!backbox20:35
ubottuBackbox Linux is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu and is thus not supported in #ubuntu. Please use #backbox on irc.autistici.org or https://forum.backbox.org/ for help with it.20:35
aotaointbinfrom kings quest to wireless communications. that's quite a long way.20:35
momkenmichal__: Of course you can. You can even detach your HardDrive and connect it to another HW and it will work like a charm :))20:35
OerHeksSkeeter, if it worked, see this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems20:36
geniimomken: You might need to make sure qcserial is installed before gobi_loader runs ( you might read the /usr/share/doc/gobi-loader/README file)20:37
momkengenii: qcserial is installed and loaded as seen in lsmod20:37
jiohdiwhat channel is correct for discussing hardware issues... have an xp-pen and how to add it to ubuntu20:38
momkengenii: Actually qcserial uses usbserial kernel module20:38
momkenand usb_wwan module20:39
michal__@OerHeks sadly no... damn do i need do everything from bottom? ;f20:39
virtuosojHey everyone. Wondering if you could help me out with an audio problem:  I hear an audible "crackle" when a sound first stops playing, and then later the same crackle after sound hasn't played for a certain period of time.  This happens using both headphones plugged into Aux and also a USB audio interface. I'm on 16.10 now but also had a similar problem on 16.04(if anything, more frequent crackles).20:40
jiohdiwhat channel is correct for discussing hardware issues... have an xp-pen and how to add it to ubuntu20:40
virtuosojIf I type in terminal "killall pulseaudio" I also hear a crackle20:40
scottjlwhat about a snap and pop?20:40
scottjlvirtuosoj: it's probably your audio chip powering up/down. generally nothing you can do about it as it's hardware.20:41
OerHeksmichal__, maybe not, biggest problem is videodriver, if you loaded prop drivers from the driver tool, reverse back to nouveau. then you might ...,20:41
virtuosojscottjl, damn... didn't have this on my other laptop. I wonder if there's a way to keep the audio chip on20:41
scottjlvirtuosoj: don't let it go to sleep. if it happens XXX seconds/minutes after the last audio is played, then it's going into some sort of sleep mode.20:42
geniimomken: Well, you've covered all the issues I already know about with it. I'm not sure there's much more that can be done20:42
momkengenii: Let me show you some post. I guess the problem should be with open-source mobile-broadband driver in linux kernel20:43
momkengenii: 1. https://sigquit.wordpress.com/2014/06/11/qmiwwan-or-gobinet/20:44
momkenThis post is written by one of the authors of "modem-manager"20:44
momken2. http://www.lanedo.com/documents/Qualcomm%20Gobi%20devices%20on%20Linux.pdf20:44
momkenThis pdf explains how Gobi devices work and different drivers for it. I guess maybe using Qualcomm's original drivers I may succeed20:45
virtuosojscottjl, any program or setting I can manipulate this in?20:47
ioriamomken,  what kernel are you using ?20:47
momkengenii: In the 1st link under section "New firmware loading" it says: "Sadly, there is not yet a way to perform this operation when using qmi_wwan and its user-space tools."20:48
scottjlvirtuosoj: you'd have to look at the module/driver for your audio chip20:48
craptalki successfully created system backup using ReaR, but it had only 156MB in size. did it just backup my configuration or what?20:48
scottjlvirtuosoj: use lsmod / dmesg and see what module is loading for your audio chip20:48
craptalki think that if i want to include the whole system backup including packages that i already downloaded on my machine, it would be a big size, right?20:49
virtuosojsnd_usbmidi_lib        32768  1 snd_usb_audio20:49
momkenqmi_wwan is the driver in linux kernel which cdc-wdm driver is based upon20:50
virtuosojscottjl, is snd_usbmidi_lib the correct one?20:50
virtuosojthis is from lsmod20:50
OerHekspeople are likely to ignore poo* and crap* names( i do ), craptalk, but you have been informed before20:51
scottjl virtuosoj probably not20:51
scottjlvirtuosoj: try something like "dmesg | grep -i snd" and see if you see anything about audio20:52
virtuosojscottjl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24184870/20:53
scottjlvirtuosoj: i see lots of reports about the problem, but nothing about a solution. :-(20:57
scottjlvirtuosoj: try "grep alsa /etc/pm/sleep.d/*"20:59
scottjlsee if it returns anything20:59
scottjloh. found something else20:59
virtuosojreturns nothing.21:00
scottjltry adding a file /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf and put in it "options snd_hda_intel power_save=0"21:00
scottjlneed to either reboot after that or unload/reload the sound module21:01
scottjlif that doesn't work try "options snd_hda_intel power_save=0 power_save_controller=N"21:02
scottjleither of those might work21:02
virtuosojscottjl, ty sir I will try the first now!21:03
scottjlgood luck!21:03
ducassecraptalk: that is entirely third party software, ask them how it works and what it does.21:07
_dreamerHello, I was here before asking about how to solve my login problem. The problem was indeed the ati radeon driver that completley screwed up the xorg. So I removed all radeon software and drivers and reinstalled xorg21:11
_dreamerIt's working again21:11
_dreamerThank you for helping me narrow down the possibilities21:11
ZJAYhey im on ubuntu 16.04 and a cinnamon desktop i accidentally closed the applet bar thatis closest to the left (or where the menu is ) thats where it works best for me anyone know how i get it to come back ust like before i ignorantly closed it21:13
ZJAYi only hve show desktop there now i looked in the settings not seeing it anywhere21:14
elisa871how long will it take to unzip a 70G file using unzip in Ubuntu?21:14
mkelogghello21:15
mkeloggcould use some help with finding information in my strace output21:16
mkelogganyone about21:16
ducasseelisa871: "it depends"21:16
naccmkelogg: just ask, i guess21:16
mkeloggwell, i got a c program that uses ls and wc in a pipeline, so i strace the program and want to find where ls is executed and where wc is executed21:17
momkenI got disconnected!!!21:17
mkeloggbut for the life of me i cant spot it in the strace21:17
repozitori used cpuset technique for preventing contex switch on my special process.21:18
repozitorhow to be sure that there is no context on my process?21:18
repozitoractually i want to see total number of context switch for special process21:18
momkengenii: I have also compiled and installed Gobi_Linux "GobiNet" kernel module, but after disabling other qmi_wwan related modules, it still doesn't work: https://portland.source.codeaurora.org/patches/quic/gobi/21:18
repozitorany command in ubuntu?21:18
mkelogghttps://codeshare.io/5NKeB121:19
naccrepozitor: cpuset doesn't prevent context switches21:20
repozitori expect that shielded process has no context switch.21:20
naccrepozitor: why? and what do you mean 'shielded'?21:21
KiickiIs it fine that I use the alternative to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 10 without using the partition alternative? And if so, how much space should I leave for Ubuntu to run good? I don't need much space as I'm only going to use it for Kodi and possible as a media server with external HDD connected to it. I got 16GB ram and 1GB internal HDD21:21
repozitorok, do you know a solution for preventing context switch for special process?21:21
repozitornacc, because i need 100% of cpu allocation for my process21:21
repozitorbecause my application is real-time21:21
repozitorany context switch will breakdown my application21:22
naccrepozitor: then you need to use special kernels21:22
naccrepozitor: linux is not, by default, hard-rt21:22
repozitorwhich kernel?21:22
naccrepozitor: i'm not sure any exist, but you can look into the rt-kernel project, iirc21:22
geniimomken: Yeah, not sure I can add more to what you've already tried.21:22
DelvienKiicki: you can run ubuntu well @ ~25g that leaves you with enough space for pictures, and random download stuff21:22
naccmkelogg: can you paste the c code itself?21:22
virtuosojscottjl, neither solution worked for the audio :(21:22
mkeloggsure21:23
KiickiDelvien Thanks. I just know people keep saying leave some room for swapping or whatever and then you need for storage. I want it to run smoothly first. Not lacking for swapping or storage if it needs it21:23
mkelogg@nacc https://codeshare.io/5DAP4r21:23
repozitornacc, did you see that?21:23
repozitorhttps://rt.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Cpuset_Management_Utility/tutorial21:23
naccrepozitor: ... written in 200921:24
DelvienKiicki: the figure i gave you includes swap21:24
Kiickiyeah, I will just adjust it so it says 25g. I think at least that's how it works with that alternative.21:24
Kiickiand it's going to partition and everything on it's own21:24
momkengenii: Ok, thank you very much. I am getting very obsessed with this mobile-broadband issue. Non sure whether it worth putting so much time and effort or not?21:25
repozitornacc, i think it tell to us cset command will prevent context swtich by shielding proccess/21:25
naccrepozitor: so you're not running anything but your one application on the 'user' cpuset? i assume there might be system processes taht can still run there21:25
DelvienKiicki:  for instance, I run ubuntu on 30gb Msata ssd, i have 22gb 11gb used for ubuntu and some files, and 8gb for swap, the rest  is available to use21:25
naccrepozitor: uh ... the page doesn't mention context switch even once21:25
ZJAYanybody got a clue on my ?21:26
repozitorlast week i ask there, and someone told cpuset will do that for me.21:26
naccrepozitor: i guess if your process is the only thing running in a cpuset, it might work, but i've never done it21:26
KiickiI will adjust it so it says 30gb just to be safe Delvien21:26
geniimomken: I have a formula to decide if getting a piece of hardware to work is worth it. Take how many hours you expect to work on it, multiply by your current wage ( or minimum wage if unemployed), then compare that number to the price of a piece of hardware that is already known to work.21:26
repozitorwhat is your practical solution for hard real-time process?21:27
naccrepozitor: afaik, you must have PREEMPT_RT to be hard rt, which is not in mainline21:30
momkengenii: I agree with you. But I guess there is not any other mobile broadband mini-pcie working with this laptop. I can buy a 4G usb dongle, but that is not as convenient as an internal card. Because I have ot attach and detach it frequently21:30
naccmkelogg: looking21:30
mkeloggthanks21:31
naccmkelogg: did you pass -f to strace?21:31
mkeloggyea21:31
naccmkelogg: i think you passed it wrong21:31
xdevnullhello21:32
naccmkelogg: you want '-f -e trace=process,pipe'21:32
naccmkelogg: i think right now -e is thinking '-f' is an expression?21:32
momkenIt is weird that few laptops have mobile-broadband built-in, but every cell-phone has it. I believe it is a very essential tool. Because in this connected world, one should always have an alternative internet connection in the case the main one got interrupted21:32
naccmkelogg: the strace output should look different if it's following threads21:32
repozitornacc, which package will configure PREEMPT_RT for me?21:32
mkeloggalright ill have a look21:32
xdevnullI can't connect to anywebsite by internet :/21:32
xdevnullbrowser21:33
xdevnull*21:33
naccrepozitor: none21:33
naccrepozitor: you have to build your own kernel, afaict21:33
momkenxdevnull: Are you connected to any network? Wireless, Etherenet, etc?21:33
repozitornacc, oh my god!21:33
repozitoris that so hard? i have no idea how to do it.21:33
xdevnullmomken, Yes i'm connected here. by it. I'm able to use IRC but not any browser21:34
mkelogg@nacc im getting the same strace21:34
naccrepozitor: hard real-time is hard21:34
naccrepozitor: without meaning that as joking21:34
naccrepozitor: it's not an easy problem to solve and yes, you have to have some technical know-how21:34
momkenxdevnull: very weird. I guess you have set a proxy for your browser which is not set for your IRC client21:34
Morbioushi21:35
tatertotsxdevnull: does the symptom occur when booted to livecd/liveusb? yes or no   the only other valid response is "i don't know because i have not tried"21:35
naccmkelogg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24185025/21:35
WicaeedI've got a bash script that kicks off a bunch of processes based on a folder containing some config files. I can start and stop the script with upstart, but is there any way upstart can tell to expect a certain number of child processes and restart any that are missing?21:35
naccmkelogg: see how there is a leading column with pids?21:35
xdevnulltatertots, "I don't know because i have not tried". It was working few minutes ago... I didn't install anything either21:36
mkeloggah yeah nacc looks like i had the flag on the wrong side aha21:36
naccmkelogg: as i just said :)21:36
mkeloggthis should of cleared it up21:36
repozitornacc, i need an start point, shoot!21:36
naccrepozitor: and hard-rt, afaict, is not ubuntu anyways'21:36
xdevnulleven if i use "ping google.com" i get unknown host.21:36
Morbiousdoes anyone know how to make ifupdown work with bond interface. I saw that there is a gub (1573272) but I couldn't find any solution21:37
repozitordo you sure that ubuntu won't run any proccess in hard-realtime strategy?21:37
tatertotsxdevnull: try to ping 139.162.227.5121:37
tatertotsxdevnull: report the results21:38
naccrepozitor: hard-realtime means something very specific, and I don't believe the upstream Linux kernel provides those guarantees21:38
repozitornacc, thanks buddy, i have got so sad right now!21:39
xdevnulltatertots, PING 139.162.227.51 (139.162.227.51) 56(84) bytes of data. The cursor still blinking21:40
naccrepozitor: it shouldn't be surprising21:40
tatertotsxdevnull: are you using a home network or are you at some restaurant/hotel/business and using their internet?21:42
xdevnulltatertots, NO sir. AT home21:42
tatertotsxdevnull: so you probably have cable based internet or a DSL based internet from a telecom company then correct?21:43
mkeloggso nacc ill be looking at the execve for when ls and wc are executed correct?21:43
tatertotsxdevnull: are you hardwired or using wireless?21:43
xdevnulltatertots, Sir. I'm connected i'm talking to you from the same PC where i can't open any website. Don't ask me how i'm connected. Hard-wired. I'm afraid to reconnect here to try..21:43
tatertotsxdevnull: are there other computers also hardwired?21:44
xdevnullOnly 1.21:45
naccmkelogg: not sure what you're asking? you should see execve() for a bunch of commands, most of which will not be found (because it's searching PATH)21:45
mkelogg@nacc, just trying to see where ls and wc are shown being called in the strace21:46
naccmkelogg: well, you haven't provided an updated strace for me to tell you yet, but you can see it clearly in the one i pastebin'd21:46
mkelogghttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24185081/21:47
tatertotsxdevnull: cable or dsl?21:48
xdevnullDSL21:48
naccmkelogg: line 6421:48
naccmkelogg: you're still invoking strace oddly, though21:48
naccmkelogg: how does strace know that `strace -f  ./question1 -e trace=process,pipe` means pass ' -e trace=process,pipe' to strace and not to ./question1? Hint: it doesn't.21:49
mkeloggrightt so what i should be seeing is this then https://paste.ubuntu.com/24185092/ its way smaller21:51
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naccmkelogg: correct.21:52
tatertotsxdevnull: reboot modem...or call you ISP tech support and the first thing they will most likely ask you to do is reboot the modem or they will reset/reboot it from their offices on their side21:52
xdevnulltatertots, but can you explain how i'm talking to you right now?21:53
mkeloggthe simplest things lmao cheers for that nacc21:53
xdevnulltatertots, i'm using the same pc where i can't connect to anything. "I was connected to irc and still" I used to open websites. but now nothing opening expect irc.21:53
xdevnulltatertots. Oh. i did unset HTTP_PROXY now working21:55
xdevnulli checked that in the Network setting. it was off and still off.21:56
Morbiousdoes anyone know how to make ifupdown work with bond interface to set default gateway ? I saw that there is a gub (1573272) but I couldn't find any solution. After reboot ubuntu 16.04 doesn't set default gw and rest of startup scripts doesn't work (like stunnel, nscd, ldap client)21:57
tapanikhello from finland22:03
tapanikmy windows 8.1 recvery dvd.s crash my OS22:03
tapanikerror bootloop22:04
stoner19so its time to replace my wife's macbook pro. Ideally I don't want to spend the kind of money Apple wants for their products, and really don't want to get any of the mass-production ones from the big-box stores. Anyone have suggestions on a reasonable laptop that I can run Ubuntu on what will play 4k or h.265 videos without any issues?22:04
tapaniknow i have ubuntu 16.0422:04
tapaniki like it22:04
tapanikby bye windows22:04
xdevnulltatertots, Thanks alot sir.22:04
tapanikwindos7 was good22:04
tapaniklinux tovalds22:04
tapanikfinish "hero"22:04
tapanikgnu stud22:05
tapaniktypo22:05
tapanik:D22:05
tapanikubuntu 16 not my first22:05
tapaniklinux22:05
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kangaroo72hi there ... I have the problem, that a device (shown via lsusb) isn't shown in KVM-Guest (Win 10) - Can someone help me please?22:11
nacckangaroo72: areyou passing it through to the KVM guest?22:12
kangaroo72yep22:15
kangaroo72Well in virt-manager I say USB-2.0, and the device is selected as host device22:16
kangaroo72should I upload xml?22:16
Sweetsharkso, I tried to run "adt-buildvm-cloud-ubuntu", but it timed out after some "found kernel" message. In dmesg, I find lots of ...apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="libvirt-2...."... messages. So apparmor blocks creating the image somehow?22:17
nacckangaroo72: is it down in windows device manager at all?22:18
nacckangaroo72: i don't know how to debug windows22:18
naccSweetshark: can you pastebin the exact command you ran and output?22:18
kangaroo72first here the xml ...22:19
kangaroo72http://paste.ubuntu.com/24185208/22:20
Sweetsharknacc: command was staightforward plain "adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud -v". Output is already lost it was in tmux, which has no backlog buffer.22:21
kangaroo72it's not shown in devicemanager22:21
xtoxicohi22:23
xtoxicoI'm new22:23
kangaroo72@xtoxico - doesn't matter ... Welcome!!22:23
xtoxicowhat's the purpose of this channel?22:24
kangaroo72We try to support together22:24
xtoxicoThanks @kangaroo7222:24
xtoxicothat's cool22:24
nacckangaroo72: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Managing#Adding_USB_Device_Pass-through22:24
nacckangaroo72: i don't know if it's fixed, but maybe apparmor denials?22:24
kangaroo72stopped already22:25
nacckangaroo72: do you get any messages the host dmesg?22:25
kangaroo72hmm ... there's something denied ...22:26
nacckangaroo72: stopping apparmor does not unload it22:26
kangaroo72aaah - ok22:26
nacckangaroo72: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322683 c#822:26
xtoxicoI had a Proxmox Server, with this is very easy configure a USB passthrought with KVM22:27
kangaroo72for what apparmor is needed?22:27
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kangaroo72@nacc, but I HAVE to add the USB-Host-Device in virt-manager, to pass it through?22:31
kangaroo72(add USB-Host-Device ...)22:32
kangaroo72Controlling USB? USB2.0 / 3.0 or Hypervisor?22:32
nacckangaroo72: apparmor is a security module (framework)22:35
nacchttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor22:35
nacckangaroo72: yes, you would of course need to tell the host to pass the USB device to the guest ... how else would it work?22:36
kangaroo72ok - just to be sure ...22:36
kangaroo72well - just deleted dmesg ... and now I'm restarting the guest ...22:38
kangaroo72okay - something's gonna be blocked ...22:40
kangaroo72http://paste.ubuntu.com/24185282/22:40
Erichi22:44
salamanderrakeHow the hell is this a thing? https://gist.github.com/salamanderrake/9db8ed181f29aed0e998da436464841922:45
k1l_salamanderrake: remove those files too22:46
salamanderrakeI tried to install clang 5.0 via the instructions here, http://apt.llvm.org/, but it got hooked up on a dep for lldb and now I can't solve the issue22:46
k1l_*packages. not files22:46
salamanderrakeI am trying22:46
k1l_salamanderrake: add those 3 packages to the purge command22:46
k1l_salamanderrake: and if you added a PPA you want to run "ppa-purge" first22:47
salamanderrakeok I got it, thanks22:47
k1l_!ppa-purge22:47
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html22:47
Erichow i get have 5 imvu clients running on one laptop?22:47
k1l_!wine | Eric22:48
ubottuEric: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu22:48
Erickl i see wine configuaration on my screen22:51
kangaroo72@nacc this should disable? sudo apt-get remove apparmor-profiles22:51
Erici typed winecfg on terminal then it opened to wine22:52
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k1l_Eric: read the full message of the bot. ask the wine specialists for running windows programs on wine.22:52
kangaroo72'cause after this it's still "denied" in dmesg22:52
bazhangEric, #winehq for that22:52
foliThis it to announce that we will be beginning maintenance on Canonical data centre firewalls in 8 minutes.22:52
k1l_Eric: and look into the app database for the known workarounds for that app22:52
kangaroo72restarting libvirt-bin?22:52
Ericapp database where22:53
Eric?22:53
bazhanghttp://appdb.winehq.org22:53
bazhangcheck there Eric , /join #winehq22:54
Erici cant fin join winehq in winehq22:55
Ericfind22:56
bazhangEric, it's a channel to join22:56
bazhang#winehq22:56
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Ericbazhanq this  Support Get help using Wine. ?22:57
bazhangEric, yes22:57
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bazhangEric, the #winehq channel is where to go for that22:58
k1l_Eric: wine is a very complex layer, not only a program. please ask the specialists in the named channel or see their website22:58
Erici joined #winehq in irc channel22:59
bazhangEric, you are not in there23:00
nacckangaroo72: sorry, was looking at something else23:00
nacckangaroo72: um, i don't think you want to remove apparmor generally23:00
foliThis it to notify the we are beginning maintenance on Canonical data centre firewalls now, lasting up to 1 hour.23:01
kangaroo72no prob, nacc23:01
kangaroo72would be nice to disable for kvm23:01
bonsairootkangaroo72, you can just stop and start it again later... for testing23:02
bonsairootdon't have to remove23:02
kangaroo72stopping does not unload23:02
kangaroo72[770363.981503] audit: type=1400 audit(1489618590.018:496): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="libvirt-33d5fa77-32fe-4661-a3e2-9ce7e7b51d51" name="/run/udev/                           data/c189:256" pid=10554 comm="qemu-system-x86" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=115 ouid=023:03
Ericlaunch application this link needs to be opened with an application?23:03
kangaroo72I think I have to disable this profile ... but how? ...23:03
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bazhangEric, you first need to join the #winehq channel and ask there23:04
nacckangaroo72: that forums post i showed you showed how to dump the state23:04
kangaroo72yeah23:05
kangaroo72got a list with profiles activated23:05
bonsairootkangaroo72, I have no idea about apparmor tbh. Found : http://wiki.apparmor.net/index.php/AppArmor_Failures   ... there is an instruction how to disable a profile... maybe it helps23:05
kangaroo72http://paste.ubuntu.com/24185371/23:05
salamanderrakek1l_: now I got this, trying to reinstall the *-4.0 version of the clang tool set, https://gist.github.com/salamanderrake/e5acf1dd2fd9353228b3cd3ad44bea6523:06
nacckangaroo72: you can tell apparmor to not start on next boot and reboot23:06
nacckangaroo72: as said in c#8 ?23:06
k1l_salamanderrake: so you still use that crappy PPA?23:06
ksbalajiHi! While running synaptic in 16.04, I get error message something like target packages configured multiple times in ...(many such message).  What are these? How do I tackle this?23:06
kangaroo72trying this23:07
kangaroo72apparmor_parser -R <profile_name>23:07
kangaroo72hold on23:07
k1l_ksbalaji: open a terminal and run "sudo apt update" and show the output on paste.ubuntu.com23:07
Ericbazhanq do i register for winehq?23:07
k1l_salamanderrake: if you use other sources, that mess up all the packagesystem we suggest to not use them. if you still want to use them, then aks the devs of that repos to support that23:08
bazhangEric, have you tried to join23:08
kangaroo72not found23:08
kangaroo72DAMN23:08
nacc!ohmy | kangaroo7223:09
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kangaroo72I'm sorry :)23:09
Ericyup im trying23:09
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bazhangEric, and what message are you getting23:10
ksbalajinarinder, alastair, done http://paste.ubuntu.com/24185526/23:15
momkenHello. I have compiled and installed a kernel module using dkms but after loading it upon a reboot I get this error:23:15
momkenGobiSerial: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel23:15
kangaroo72Profiles are unloaded, but 2 Profiles are in enforced mode :(23:15
momkenIs that error important? And how could I fix it?23:16
k1l_ksbalaji: please run "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output url here23:17
naccmomken: if you were using secure boot, i think it wouldn't work -- but i'm guessing you're not. kernel modules from ubuntu are signed so that you can trust them23:17
momkennacc: I know they are signed, but I want to load myself23:18
momkenI doubt I am using secure boot23:18
cruelplatypus67hey23:18
naccmomken: "I know they are signed, but I want to load myself" -- what are "they" and what are you trying to load yourself? My understanding was you built a module using dkms; i'm not sure dkms modules can be signed23:19
momkennacc: All I want to do is loading my compiled kernel module upon boot23:20
cruelplatypus67http://gtkthemingguide.ml/23:20
cruelplatypus67http://gtkthemingguide.ml/23:20
Ericthere no message23:20
bazhangEric, then /join #winehq23:20
ksbalajidodge29: I got this: grep: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*: No such file or directory23:20
ksbalajihttp://termbin.com/muyi23:20
momkennacc: As I said I am trying to load "GobiSerial" module which I recently compiled. I got its code from https://github.com/casastorta/gobiserial23:20
naccmomken: it didn't say it didn't load it23:21
kangaroo72@nacc I have disabled evertyhing, but I cannot disable the 2 enforced profiles23:21
kangaroo72can U help there?23:21
naccmomken: it said it tainted the kerenl23:21
nacckangaroo72: is your guest running right now?23:21
kangaroo72no - shut down23:21
momkennacc: Really? So it is loaded now?23:21
naccmomken: look in lsmod23:21
momkenHow could I know?23:21
k1l_ksbalaji: did you manually change the sources.list?23:21
momkenYeah, it is loaded23:22
OerHeksEric, just type> /join #winehq23:22
momkennacc: But it still can't create /dev/ttyUSB*! I compiled/loaded every driver possible for my Gobi3000 card23:22
ksbalajinarinder: I dont know. I do not remember haveing changed anything.23:23
naccmomken: i don't know23:23
ksbalajiI think, I chose server suggested by the system.23:23
momkenAccording to http://www.option.com/download/243_Gobi3000LinuxPackageGuidedoc.pdf section 3.2 the GobiSerial driver should create /dev/ttyUSB# devices23:24
k1l_ksbalaji: well, you have messed with the sources.list. you need to remove all the lines  from the half file, after the line "deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial partner"23:24
kangaroo72testing after reboot - then going to bed for now ...23:27
Ericam i in wineh ric right?23:27
k1l_Eric: this here is still #ubunt23:27
Ericoops im in winehq irc23:27
kangaroo72is virtualbox for this case better than kvm?23:27
naccmomken: you will need to ask them :/23:27
Ericbazhanq u see me in winehq?23:28
bazhangEric, no23:29
ksbalajikil_ How do I remove the lines please? can you guide? I fear messing up more otherwise, Where do I find the file?23:29
bazhangEric, is english your native language23:29
k1l_ksbalaji: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" then remove the bottom half from the line i told you. then press ctrl+o to save the file and ctrl+x to exit. then rerun "sudo apt update"23:30
Ericbazhanq look in winehq "i said hi Bazhanq"23:30
bonsairootksbalaji, If you're afraid of modifying just create a backup first: cp file file_backup23:30
ksbalajikil_ thanks. I shall do.23:31
bazhangEric, so ask your issue there, and wait23:31
ksbalajibonsairoot: Thanks23:31
kangaroo72*******GOT IT ******23:36
kangaroo72:-D23:36
kangaroo72:-D23:36
kangaroo72Thanks nacc23:36
kangaroo72now I can have a good night ^^23:36
momkennacc: Is https://github.com/casastorta/gobiserial/issues the best place to ask about my issue? Because as long as I know the Gobi 3000 firmware should be uploaded to the device from a /dev/ttyUSB* device which should become enabled using GobiSerial driver23:51
adymitrukdoes anyone here have the dell xps with ubuntu on it?23:54
tatertotsand if they did?23:54
tatertotsjust ask your real question, or state the "actual" problem23:54
Delvienadymitruk: no but im fairly familiar with dell laptops, why?23:54
adymitrukI can't find the sources for some of the drivers, like bluetooth23:54
adymitruka coworker's machine was repaved and none of the Dell sources were saved23:55
tatertotsadymitruk: in terminal>     sudo apt install inxi pastebinit23:55
adymitrukso bluetooth doesn't work23:55
tatertotsadymitruk: do the above from the actual computer in question with ubuntu on it23:55
Delvienadymitruk: the xps line has been around for a long long time, with many different xps models. Youll have to be more specific23:55
tatertotsadymitruk: when it's done...say so23:55
adymitrukit's the latest xps 1323:56
adymitruki7 750023:56
Delvienxps 13 is about 7~ different models23:56
tatertotsadymitruk: oh so...you're not even chatting from the actual computer in question right now are you23:56
Delvienprobably more23:56
tatertotsadymitruk: then nevermind...good luck23:56
adymitrukit's the top one. touchscreen 512gb SD 16gb ram23:56
Delvien9350?23:57
Delvientouchscreen has been on multiple models of xps 1323:57
adymitrukno, as I said I'm doing this for a coworker23:57
k1l_adymitruk: look at project sputnik23:57
_dreamerI'm running ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS, second screen is not working23:57
adymitrukk1l_: just google or are you referring to a specific page I should be aware of?23:58
OerHeksadymitruk, maybe the arch wiki is a help https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dell_XPS_13_(9343)#Bluetooth23:58
k1l_adymitruk: that is the project inside dell, that works on the linux(ubuntu) support for the xps machines23:58
bonsairootOerHeks, I don't think the new xps 13 laptops come with broadcom chips do they?23:59
_dreamerI am using the proprietary driver23:59
OerHeksbonsairoot, dunno, easy to check out if you have that machine23:59

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