#ubuntukylin-devel 2013-04-22
<smartboyhw> ypwong, update the channel topic here, we are now testing instead of Final Freezing:P
<ypwong> smartboyhw, right :)
<ypwong> hmm, raring final?
<cfhowlett> question: is it worth considering adding a message to the !cn   factoid in #ubuntu to direct users to check out kylin?
<smartboyhw> ypwong, raring RC testing?
<smartboyhw> cfhowlett, after 13.04 released then yes:P
* ypwong changed the topic of #ubuntukylin-devel to: Development channel for UbuntuKylin | http://www.ubuntukylin.com | RC testing on-going
<cfhowlett> smartboyhw, cool.  I wouldn't know who to contact to do that, so ...    ?
<ypwong> how does the topic look now?
<smartboyhw> cfhowlett, just do things like ubottu: !cn is <reply> something...
<cfhowlett> !cn
 * smartboyhw reminds cfhowlett that ubottu isn't in this channel
<cfhowlett> so I see :)
<ypwong> hmm, the daily image still have ugly theme
<ypwong> JackYu, å¾åå¤ä¸ä¸ release notes äº
<smartboyhw> ypwong, +1
<ypwong> JackYu, seems the theme bug is still there -- http://ubuntuone.com/687VwriwnK1ftuYtTXijf0
<JackYu> pywong, yes, it's time to prepare release notes.
<JackYu> ypwong, we did update the theme package. will check later.
<JackYu> ypwong, which iso you are testing?
<JackYu> it seems ok for the newest one.
<JackYu> ypwong, I contacted WPS and SOHU for the release party talk, will get response in these two days.
<ypwong> JackYu, weird, let me update image again, mine is two days ago
<ypwong> JackYu, do we wait for reply before we contact oneleaf or the other developer?
<JackYu> ypwong, I think we can contact oneleaf or others simultaneously.
<JackYu> ypwong, Have you asked Zhengpeng?
<ypwong> JackYu, if the others are willing to come, then we will have 5-6 talks
<ypwong> and need to shorten the time for each talk
<ypwong> zhengpeng didn't reply me :) but i think oneleaf is a good candidate if you can cover his expense
<JackYu> ypwong, it's fine. We can reduce the talk about Ubuntu/UbuntuKylin to 30 min
<ypwong> JackYu, ok :)
<JackYu> ypwong, yes, we can:).
<JackYu> ypwong, for individual person.
<ypwong> JackYu, so will you contact oneleaf or ask freeflying to help?
<JackYu> ypwong, I think it's better you contact him first. If needed, I will talk with him later:). I'm busy with QA, documentation, etc...
<ypwong> JackYu, ok, then i'll need introduction from freeflying, i don't know oneleaf
<JackYu> smartboyhw, seems that 'Raring Final ' is ready, but only Netboot is there.
<smartboyhw> JackYu, you'll have to wait:P
<JackYu> :)
<maclin> The shutdown dialog is still English in latest ubuntukylin iso
<JackYu> hope the RC iso is ok.
<maclin> should we do something for thatï¼
<ypwong> maclin, oh
<ypwong> perhaps too late
<ypwong> those strings may be new due to the new shutdown dialog
<ypwong> we need to have someone to focus on localization
<ypwong> maclin, we should still get them translated
<ypwong> someone already translated, just need review
<maclin> okï¼we ever related it to ubuntu translation and had been waiting for that
<JackYu> yes, we should take part in the translation in 13.10.
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<ypwong> ok
<ypwong> JackYu, yes, their mailing list is ubuntu-tranlators
<ypwong> the strings are reviewed, should appear in next language pack update
<ypwong> I can talk more about localization in our next meeting
<JackYu> ypwong, thanks. We should do this as a local Ubuntu:)
<maclin> okï¼we really should pay attention to localization
 * smartboyhw agrees, especially when UbuntuKylin is a localized official distribution of Ubuntu.
<JackYu> :)
#ubuntukylin-devel 2013-04-23
<freeflying> JackYu: http://www.opennetsummit.org/pdf/2013/research_track/poster_papers/ons2013-final14.pdf
<JackYu> freeflying: Yep, I know these guys
<freeflying> JackYu: impressive
<ypwong> looks interesting
<freeflying> JackYu: are you in the same school?
<JackYu> freeflying: yes.
<JackYu> ypwong, the draft of release notes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin/1304-ReleaseNotes
<freeflying> JackYu: hope can meet them next time visiting you :)
<JackYu> freeflying: OK. I can arrange.
<kylin_> p
<freeflying> JackYu: great! thanks
 * smartboyhw loses both ypwong and JackYu:P
<smartboyhw> JackYu, hey
<JackYu> smartboyhw: hi
<JackYu> we installed
<smartboyhw> JackYu, I saw your release notes draft and I can't get to download WPS:P
<smartboyhw> JackYu, we installed "what"?
<JackYu> RC iso on about 10 laptops
<smartboyhw> JackYu, :O
<smartboyhw> 10!?
<JackYu> smartboyhw: it's a draft. WPS will be available in these two days.
<smartboyhw> JackYu, ooh oK
<JackYu> yes:).  We are installing on the other 6 laptops.
<JackYu> including lenovo, hp, dell...
<smartboyhw> ...
<smartboyhw> JackYu, that's hell strong testing
<freeflying> JackYu: btw, do you wanna sponsor china kernel summit?
<JackYu> freeflying: Interesting, is there a webpage introducing it?
<freeflying> JackYu: http://www.ckernel.org/news/
<freeflying> JackYu: not too much many normally
<JackYu> I see. May I know how to sponsor in the name of UbuntuKylin? contact guojinfen@gmail.com?
<smartboyhw> JackYu, ypwong: Can you guys do http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1316/info ?
<JackYu> smartboyhw, sure, I can do the 'Simplified Chinese' one,  but not now. I'm writing news about UbuntuKylin.
<JackYu> Is it ok doing it tomorrow morning?
<smartboyhw> JackYu: Thanks! It's OK.
<JackYu> OK. welcome:)
<ypwong> smartboyhw, why some images are crossed out on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds?
<smartboyhw> ypwong: Respinning
<smartboyhw> Critical ubiquity bugfix in
<ypwong> late fix, fun
<smartboyhw> The whole world is doing it
<smartboyhw> ypwong: Hopefully this SHOULD be the last.
<ypwong> smartboyhw: that test case is quite outdated... looks like it's from pre-unity era..
#ubuntukylin-devel 2013-04-24
<kylin_> nick TigerLuo
<ypwong> smartboyhw_, ping
* ypwong changed the topic of #ubuntukylin-devel to: Development channel for UbuntuKylin | http://www.ubuntukylin.com | RC testing on-going | Release party in preparation http://pad.ubuntu.com/beijing-13-04-release-party
<smartboyhw_> :O
<ypwong> smartboyhw_, some slideshows for simp. chinese were not translated, worth to report such bug??
<ypwong> slideshows during installation
<smartboyhw_> ypwong: Yes but don't target it against R.
<ypwong> smartboyhw_, they won't block the release due to the bug, right? :D
 * ypwong coughs
<smartboyhw_> ypwong:  erm no:P
<liuxing> you ren bu
<smartboyhw_> ?!
 * smartboyhw_ does speak good Puthoghua, but he doesn't understand this sentence.
<ypwong> you
<ypwong> smartboyhw_, didn't learn pinyin at school?
<smartboyhw_> ypwong: I can't read pinyin without the symbols. However I think he means if anyone is here.
<ypwong> yes
<ypwong> JackYu, i used http://www.huodongxing.com/ for registration
<JackYu> ypwong, It seems great!
<ypwong> JackYu, yes, quite good
<JackYu> ypwong, I sent you an email about the news letter of UbuntuKylin, pls check.
<smartboyhw_> Newsletter? Whoa!
<ypwong> JackYu, thx, I'll check later
<JackYu> smartboyhw: :)
<smartboyhw_> JackYu: You guys copying the style.of Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter?
<JackYu> smartboyhw: not really. I just list the big steps of UbuntuKylin during the last one year.
<smartboyhw_> Oh
<JackYu> ypwong, please check http://pad.ubuntu.com/beijing-13-04-release-party. I did some modification.
<JackYu> smartboyhw, seems that they are still modifying settings?
<JackYu> I was online just now.
<smartboyhw> JackYu: You guys need a respin
<JackYu> :)
#ubuntukylin-devel 2013-04-25
<smartboyhw> JackYu, ypwong: You have no test results on the ISO QA Tracker, please test.
<ypwong> oh
<ypwong> whzhang, hi
<ypwong> we need maclin
<smartboyhw> ypwong, JackYu: I think you guys can mark images ready now.
<JackYu> smartboyhw, ypwong, done.
<smartboyhw> JackYu: \o/
<smartboyhw> Now we can sit back and enjoy:P
<JackYu> We are busy with the website:(
<smartboyhw> JackYu: I can at least, our project lead is doing all the announcements.
<smartboyhw> He wants to take charge;P
<JackYu> :)
<JackYu> smartbyhw: would you pls check is http://www.ubuntukylin.com/ availble?
<JackYu> we can access it here, but seems the services are ok.
<JackYu> smartboyhw: can you access it?
<smartboyhw> JackYu: Checking
<smartboyhw> Seems not
<ypwong> $ telnet www.ubuntukylin.com 80
<ypwong> Trying 210.209.123.136...
<ypwong> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
<smartboyhw> Yepp
<JackYu> http://www.ubuntukylin.com:8081
<JackYu> seems due to many guys access..
<JackYu> when using port 8081, it's ok
<smartboyhw> JackYu: Port 8081 works
<ypwong> wow, DoS'd? i saw there are already news released about 13.04
<ypwong> JackYu, i will modify the å®£ä¼ ç¨¿ a little bit according to Aron's comments
<smartboyhw> :O
<JackYu> ypwong, ok, thanks.
<ypwong> JackYu, ah, saw you have already modified it
<JackYu> ypwong, å¥½åhttp://www.ubuntu.com.cn/ç½ç«ä¹æäºï¼
<smartboyhw> lol
<smartboyhw> :O
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<smartboyhw> lol
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<smartboyhw> ypwong: :P
<ypwong> http://www.datamation.com/open-source/mark-shuttleworth-chillin-on-ubuntu-13.04-video.html # Marks names it Kylin (pronounce as Chi-lin)
<smartboyhw> lol
<ypwong> i alway pronounce as kee-lin
<ypwong> always
<smartboyhw> ypwong: Forgive the editor and Mark
<ypwong> smartboyhw, nah, i will follow my boss :)
<smartboyhw> lol
<cfhowlett> website still displays beta.2 ???
<ypwong> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1/comments/1800
<smartboyhw_> 1800 comments?!
<JackYu> ypwong, I also pronounce as kee-lin, chi-lin is chinese name.
<smartboyhw_> JackYu, ypwong new S codename: Saucy Salamander http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 :O
<ypwong> JackYu, yeah, don't know why laowai speaks in Mandarin way
<ypwong> JackYu, perhaps lenoard taught him :)
<ypwong> smartboyhw_, wow, playing on SUSE?
<smartboyhw_> ypwong: What?
<smartboyhw_> That's sabdfl's idea
<ypwong> i mean SUSE's logo is a lizard
<smartboyhw_> lol
<ypwong> and also two S
<ypwong> there should many animals start with S, so why Salamander?
<JackYu> cfhowlett: the website is under repairing:)
<smartboyhw_> ypwong: Look at the link plz...
<ypwong> i know
<ypwong> but i can't help think in that way :)
 * ypwong likes conspiracy 
<smartboyhw_> lol
<freeflying> congrats! all
<smartboyhw_> freeflying: :)
<smartboyhw_> ypwong: Rebutt that bug comment with UbuntuKylin ;P
<ypwong> smartboyhw_, nah i don't troll nor flame
<smartboyhw_> ypwong: ;P
<freeflying> ypwong: topcis for release party fixed?
<ypwong> freeflying, almost
<freeflying> ypwong: sounds great
#ubuntukylin-devel 2013-04-26
<freeflying> JackYu: http://www.linode.com/
<sysko> ä½ å¥½/hi
* ypwong changed the topic of #ubuntukylin-devel to: Development channel for UbuntuKylin | http://www.ubuntukylin.com | 13.04 Released! | Release party in preparation http://pad.ubuntu.com/beijing-13-04-release-party
<ypwong> http://www.ubuntukylin.com/ still down?
<ypwong> wow, wps office includes a whole bunch of chinese fonts
<cfhowlett> ypwong, as I would expect ...
<ypwong> JackYu, i can access http://www.ubuntukylin.com/ now, are you still having difficulty to replace the link on the front page?
<JackYu> ypwong,  it is still under ddos attack.
<JackYu> ypwong, we moved to another web server just now.
<sysko> ddos by fedora's fanboys ?:P
<ypwong> sysko, nah, but i can guess who :P
<ypwong> sysko, btw, Hi!
<sysko> ä½ å¥½ :P
<ypwong> sysko, live in france?
<ypwong> sorry got to go for dinner
<sysko> my ssh server :P
<sysko> enjoy your dinner
<JackYu> sysko, hi
<sysko> hi
<JackYu> sysko, anyway, the website is accessible now.
<sysko> I've been able to open it earlier in the afternoon (china time)
<cfhowlett> where would I find the torrents ?
<JackYu> cfhowlett: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntukylin/releases/raring/release/
<JackYu> there are torrents for 32 and 64 bit.
<sysko> I'm wondering how ubuntukylin is managed, is it fully supported by canonical (i.e they've have some employees working on it), or is it community-based with ressource (server etc.) support from them?
<cfhowlett> JackYu, no doubt, but there's no link that I can see ...
<cfhowlett> sysko, fully supported official ubuntu derivative
<sysko> nice
<cfhowlett> JackYu, thanks.  that's what I wanted..
<sysko> do you already have some partnership planned with Tencent, the company that is editing PPstream ,  Taobao etc. ?
<JackYu> sysko, we have plan for them, but needs time.
<ypwong> the user manual is awesome
<ypwong> JackYu, we should actually put the user manual on the desktop!
<JackYu> :)
<JackYu> you mean in the iso?
<ypwong> JackYu, yes
<JackYu> ypwong, the website and forum is ok. seems faster than before.
<ypwong> JackYu, csip should have good network bandwidth
<JackYu> sure. we need a new package, might named as 'ubuntukylin-docs'
<ypwong> JackYu, yes, and put the source on LP
<ypwong> JackYu, and the current user manual lacks a license
<ypwong> suggest to use CC BY-SA license
<JackYu> yep
<JackYu> good idea.
<JackYu> ypwong, I'm going to publish the info of release party tomorrow.
<ruien> JackYu: just want to say congrats on your release, and I have high hopes for this distro in the future. I will try to transition my family away from windows when it is possible, thanks for your hard work :)
<ypwong> awesome :)
<JackYu> ruien: thanks for your great supporting.
<ruien> I live in china, if you need community support or testing for something, just let me know.
<JackYu> wow, that's great.
<JackYu> we will have a release party in Beijing, 11, May.
<JackYu> You are welcome to join us.
<ruien> ah, i wish i could go, but I am in Yibin, Sichuan :( . I used to live in Beijing before
<JackYu> oh, we have another party at Changsha, Hunan, 18, May.
<JackYu> Hope the earthquake dose't  affect you:)
<ruien> it was fine here, everyone just ran outside but no damage in Yibin, thanks :)
<JackYu> Anyway, you can also join our online discussion on UDS.
<ruien> Hm, UDS?
<JackYu> vUDS
<JackYu> I should go home, see you later:)
<ruien> have a good evening!
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#ubuntukylin-devel 2013-04-27
<ruien> Hi. I installed UbuntuKylin for my wife. Now she is asking, "where is QQ?". What is the best package for QQ? Should I use WINE for this?
<cfhowlett> ruien, qq has a linux client
<cfhowlett> http://wiki.ubuntu.com.cn/QQ
<ruien> Oh, how convenient! Thanks.
<cfhowlett> http://im.qq.com/qq/linux/
<ypwong> heard that QQ no longer works recently
<cfhowlett> ypwong, I can't even download the deb from tencent
<cfhowlett> ypwong, and it's dated 2009, so ...
<ypwong> cfhowlett, oh, too bad, the tar.gz one can still be
<ypwong> yeah
<ypwong> old
<ypwong> the best things right now is webqq, that most people use
<ypwong> on  linux
<cfhowlett> ypwong, in english (hopefully he says ...)?
<ypwong> seems not
<ypwong> only available in chinese
<cfhowlett> ypwong, disappointing
<ypwong> it could be a fun project to develop a qq client, needs hard work to reverse engineer their protocol
<ruien> yes, i haven't been successful in making QQ work. Unfortunately, no one will really accept UbuntuKylin without QQ
<ruien> and WebQQ is okay, but it has some limitations, such as you cannot transfer files I think
<cfhowlett> ruien, exactly.  I'm a laowai and even I know that!
<ruien> yeah, me too
<ruien> but my wife is Chinese and I want her to switch from windows to ubuntu kylin
<ruien> this distribution has a lot of potential, the chinese market needs a better alternative
<cfhowlett> I am SO sick of seeing all these pc/laptops in Beijing running XP!
<ypwong> ruien, the wine solution gives the closet user experience as on Windows
<ypwong> web.qq.com is easiest to set up
<ypwong> (nothing to set up actually)
<ruien> yes, I think i'll try wine for her next. But the new chinese Ubuntu user won't be able to run wine without some help. And web.qq.com, again, cannot transfer files. Since people need to use it for Taobao, and often need to transfer pictures and files, it's a problem.
<ruien> so, i'll set it up for her with wine, i just worry it's a problem for the adoption of the distribution to new users without someone to help them.
<cfhowlett> except for weixin/wechat, seems like none of the social networking tools have english portals/transation built in.  makes it pretty inaccessible
<ruien> cfhowlett: well, what is english needed for?
<cfhowlett> ruien, um, monolingual users like me?  No Mandarin skills ...
<cfhowlett> just downloaded release 13.04 and will try virtualbox again.  for some reason, it runs WAY too slow to use, unlike my other VM's
<ruien> cfhowlett: there's something about the way unity optimizations that they don't really work the same way in a virtualbox VM; i haven't figured out why, but if you run it natively it really is different
<ruien> Also, i personally run Xubuntu in English, but i understand the need for UbuntuKylin. Already my wife thinks it's great, Youku "just works", it looks good, it has good chinese support. So far, the only big problem to new users is QQ
<cfhowlett> ruien, guess I'll have to re-purpose my employer provided lenovo.
<ruien> cfhowlett: well, for testing, just run it from a live USB instead of installing. That will give you native speed to compare with
<ruien> really, there have been some *major* improvements in Unity's speed with 13.04. I think it's the best version of Unity so far, i would not use it before now.
 * ypwong just wrote tencent an email about their non-functional QQ client
<cfhowlett> I would have thought tencent/qq was partnering on kylin ...
<ruien> cfhowlett: Yes, but i am not sure their motive so far (not enough user base for them to care about it). And if they provide the protocol spec, people implement non-official clients in order to bypass their ads, so as a company they can't do that I think.
<ruien> catch-22 :(
<cfhowlett> grrrr
<shine_> small tiger
<ruien> well, i installed wine-1.5.28 via PPA and then the "longene-wine-qq" .deb package, and QQ looks good so far.
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<cfhowlett> !cn|ning,
<cfhowlett> reminds me: the !cn factoid should direct to #kylin, should it not?  and vice versa?
<smartboyhw> cfhowlett: No I think
<smartboyhw> ning: ä½ å¥½
<ruien> people will come here because on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin/1304-ReleaseNotes under "Support", the IRC channel is "#ubuntukylin-devel"
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<cfhowlett> ... wonder if maybe the two channels ought be consolidated for Chinese users ?
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<ruien> cfhowlett: there's no one in "#ubuntukylin" or "#kylin", as far as I know this is the only channel.
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<cfhowlett> ruien, no I mean the #ubuntu-cn channel and #ubuntukylin  ...
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<ruien> hrm, maybe? but xubuntu has its own channel, so i think this should be separate too. There are (and will be) differences between standard Ubuntu in Chinese mode and Kylin, the official chinese distro
* ypwong changed the topic of #ubuntukylin-devel to: UbuntuKylin å¼åé¢é / Development Channel for UbuntuKylin | 13.04 åå¸å¦ï¼| UbuntuKylin è®ºå http://forum.ubuntukylin.com
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#ubuntukylin-devel 2013-04-28
<kingwen> è¿ä¸ªç³»ç»å¥½ç¨ä¸?
<smartboyhw> kingwen: å¥½ç¨ï¼
<ypwong> :)
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<smartboyhw> ypwong: You are there?
<ypwong> smartboyhw,  no ar
<smartboyhw> ypwong: BTW would it be possible to add a Chinese (Traditional) UbuntuKylin? :P
<ypwong> smartboyhw, you want to lead?
<ypwong> :P
<smartboyhw> ypwong: Lead what?
<ypwong> lead the project
<smartboyhw> ypwong: Which project?
<ypwong> traditional version
<ypwong> for a trad chinese version, it's better to be done by hk/taiwan people
<smartboyhw> ypwong: OK. I do want a Chinese (Traditional) UbuntuKylin:) But I thought Cheng-Tsia Tseng, the Taiwan LoCo leader,  has the projectâ¦
<ypwong> smartboyhw, do you have a link to his project?
<smartboyhw> ypwong: Try to find it in the Taiwan LoCo wiki/forums
<ypwong> ok~
<JackYu> hi
<smartboyhw> ypwong: http://wiki.ubuntu-tw.org/index.php?title=Litebuntu
<smartboyhw> JackYu: åå®ï¼
<JackYu> smartboyhw: hi
<JackYu> ypwong, ç¤¾åºæ´»å¨ä¿¡æ¯å·²æ´æ°ã
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<smartboyhw_> ypwong: +1 But I think a Chinese user would not understand both:P
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<ypwong> JackYu, wow
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<ypwong> JackYu, ææå«äººä»¥ä¸ºæ¯è¡¨æ¼èç® :P
<smartboyhw_> ypwong: LOL
<ruien> haha
<JackYu> åµåµ ä¹æ¯å¯ä»¥ç
<JackYu> ypwong, å·²æ´æ°ç½ç«ããã
<ypwong> JackYu, looks good :)
<JackYu> ypwong, QQç¾¤éæäººå»ºè®®å¼éç½ç»è§é¢ç´æ­
<maclin> ypwongï¼ubuntuç½ç«ä¸çå¼å®¹åè¡¨å¨ä»ä¹ä½ç½®ï¼
<ypwong> maclin, çç http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/ æ¯ä¸æ¯ä½ éè¦ç
<JackYu> ypwong, QQç¾¤éæäººå»ºè®®å¼éç½ç»è§é¢ç´æ­ï¼ä½ çå¯è¡ä¸ï¼
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<ypwong> æ¥äºå
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<ruien> JackYu: Happy May holiday to yourself as well!
<JackYu> ruien: thanks:)
* ypwong changed the topic of #ubuntukylin-devel to: äºä¸å¿«ä¹ï¼| æ¬¢è¿æ¥å° ubuntukylin-devel å¼åé¢éï¼welcome to #ubuntukylin-develãè¿å¥è¯·åæ¥çé¢éä¸»é¢ï¼æ¬é¢éçå¯¹è¯é½ææ¥å¿ï¼ä½¿ç¨æ¬é¢éä»£è¡¨æ¨åæ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService ä½¿ç¨æ¡æ¬¾ãThis channel is logged, use of this channel implies acceptance of terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService.
<xiong_> ??
<smartboyhw> ypwong: You guys start to have holidays today?
<ypwong> smartboyhw, tomorrow
<smartboyhw> ypwong: BOO
 * smartboyhw still has school days on Monday, Tuesday and Thursday, IIRC
<ypwong> smartboyhw, we have to work yesterday and today
<ypwong> for china employees
<smartboyhw> ypwong: You have to work on Sundays?
<smartboyhw> :O
<ruien> only this week
<smartboyhw> ruien: Oh
<ruien> Essentially it's intended for convenience; as the 2013-05-01 holiday can't be moved by definition, but is not contiguous with a weekend, two days are swapped ({sat, sun} <-> {mon, tues}) so that the three days off are consecutive.
#ubuntukylin-devel 2014-04-23
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<shijing> @qin1 welcome!
<freeflying> ypwong: utopic unicorn lol, how a interesting name
#ubuntukylin-devel 2014-04-24
<ypwong> freeflying, lol
<maclin> ypwong, happyaron, ä½ ä»¬ææ¶é´å¸®å¿çç#Bug  1308889ï¼Steveå»ºè®®æ¹ä¸ºseedsï¼ Laneyè®¤ä¸º14.04é¶æ®µæ¶é´å¯è½ä¸å¤ï¼å¯ä»¥ä½¿ç¨livecd-rootfsï¼è¿ä¸ªæ²¡æçæ
<ubot5> bug 1308889 in ubuntukylin-default-settings (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-kylin-docs was not installed by default in latest image" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308889
<ypwong> lmc
<ypwong> wow they are still following up the issue
<ypwong> maclin, å°±ç® 14.04.x ä¸è½æ¢ï¼Utopic ä¹å¯ä»¥æ¢
<ypwong> æä»¥æä»¬ç°å¨å°±å¯ä»¥åå¤ç¨ seeds
<ypwong> maclin, ä¹åæ¯ penghuan å¨çåï¼
<JackYu> æ¯çï¼penghuanä¹ååå¤è¿
<ypwong> JackYu, è¦ä¸è®©ä»ç»§ç»­åå¤ä¸ä¸ï¼æè®°å¾ä¸æ¬¡å¶å®å·²ç»å·®ä¸å¤
<ypwong> æä¸»è¦æ¯æ trusty çæ¹å¨æ¾è¿å»
<JackYu> ok
<ypwong> maclin, JackYu: ææ bug 1308889 åéç»äº penghuan
<ubot5> bug 1308889 in ubuntukylin-default-settings (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-kylin-docs was not installed by default in latest image" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308889
<JackYu> ok
<maclin> ypwongï¼JackYuï¼åç¦»å¼äºä¸ä¼å¿ï¼ä½ ä»¬æ¯è¯´ç´æ¥èèåæ¢å°seedsï¼ Laneyè¯´çæéçï¼seedsçè¿ä¸ç¥éä¼æä»ä¹é®é¢ï¼èæä»¬ç®åè¿æ²¡æä¸ä¸ªå®å¨æ­£ç¡®çdefault-settingsï¼æ¯å¦åèèè§£å³è¿ä¸ªé®é¢ï¼åå¼å§seedsçåæ¢ï¼
<ypwong> maclin, è§å¾å¯ä»¥åæ­¥å
<ypwong> æ¯ç«æ©æè¦å
<freeflying> ypwong: åå°±æ²¡ä¸ªå¿«ç¹çé¡¹ç®ç®¡çè½¯ä»¶å¢ï¼jiraä¹æ¢å°çï¼è·lpä¸ä¸ªæ°´å¹³
<maclin> ypwongï¼æ¯çï¼ä¸¤ä¸ªé½å°½å¿«å¼å§ã Laneyè¯´çé£ä¸ªæ¹æ³ä½ äºè§£ä¸ï¼æä¸æ¯å¾æ¸æ¥
<ypwong> freeflying, lp å¶å°æ½é£
<ypwong> maclin, livecd-rootfs? ä¸æ¸æ¥
<ypwong> freeflying, ä»¥åç¨è¿ trac, quite light-weight
<freeflying> ypwong: é£ä¸ªç¡®å®å¾light
<freeflying> ypwong: å¥½å¨ç°å¨ä¸ç¨lpäº
<ypwong> freeflying, ææ¬åï¼æ°æ®ä¸å¤é®é¢å°±åºæ¥
<ypwong> åå¸ååºæ¬å°±æ¯ LP stress test
<freeflying> ypwong: lpçæºå¨è¿æ¯å¾å¤å¹´åç
<freeflying> :)
<freeflying> ypwong: åå å¤©è¿çå°ålpå¢éçäººå¨åæ§½è¿ä¸ª
<ypwong> freeflying, where?
<freeflying> ypwong: a dedicated channel for ex-canonicaler
<ypwong> freeflying, can i join?
<JackYu> freeflying, can I:)?
<JackYu> I'm already a not-canonical member https://launchpad.net/~not-canonical, lol.
<ypwong> lol
<freeflying> ypwong: in future may be :)
<zlyf> test
<ypwong> JackYu, ææ²¡æ bug åè¡¨æ¯ 14.04.1 è¦è§£æçï¼
<JackYu> æï¼ shijingåmaclinè¿å¨æ¢³çï¼ä¸å¨ç»åºæ¥ã
<ypwong> JackYu, æå¥½å°½å¿«
<ypwong> ææ³æå¿«æ sru çå¯å¨
<ypwong> å°½å¿«
<ypwong> UKSC éåºä¹åï¼uksc-daemon è¿ççï¼apt-getãæ²¡æ³æ§è¡ï¼ï¼
<maclin> ypwong, uksc-daemonæ¯èªå¨å è½½çdbusæå¡
<maclin> ä½æ¯åºè¯¥ä¸ä¼å½±åapt-getçæ§è¡
<ypwong> maclin, åªæ¯å¶å°ä¼éä½ï¼
<ypwong> maclin, ææå°±è½ apt-get install äº
<ypwong> æ¯ä¸æ¯å½æ¶æ­£éä½ database?
<maclin> ä¹ååä»ä¹æä½äºåï¼
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<Garyson> æç¶å¤ç«å­å¾å¤å
<maclin> Garysonï¼ä½ ä¹æ¯å¤ç«å­å^
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#ubuntukylin-devel 2014-04-25
<ypwong> happyaron, USC çå²çªé®é¢åºè¯¥ç­ææ¯å¦æ è§£ï¼
<happyaron> ypwong: å¯
<happyaron> ypwong: è½¯ä»¶åè¦æ¹sectionåï¼
<happyaron> ypwong: æèæ¹ætrusty/multiverse
<happyaron> å¦æuk archiveé£è¾¹æ²¡é®é¢çè¯
<ypwong> happyaron, è¦ jack é®é® jjo?
<ypwong> happyaron, ç®åæ¯ trusty main
<happyaron> ypwong: é¢
<ypwong> ä¸ç¥éä»ä»¬é£è¾¹è½ä¸è½æ¹
<ypwong> JackYu, ^^
<happyaron> è½è¿ä¸ªmultiverse/restrictedå°±è¡åã
<happyaron> é½ä¸ææå¼ã
<happyaron> é½ä¸æænon-freeäº
<JackYu> happyaron, æ¹æå¥½ã
<JackYu> ypwong, æ¹æå¥½ã
<happyaron> JackYu: æ¹æå¥è½ç¡®å®å¥½ä½¿å¢
<JackYu> happyaron, è¿å¾é®é®jjo?
<happyaron> JackYu: å¥æ¶åè½è§£å³å¢ã
<happyaron> è¿æ¯è¯´æåæ¹äºï¼è¿æ¬¡è¯è¯çè¡ä¸è¡ã
<JackYu> happyaron, æ©ï¼å¯ä»¥åï¼åæ¹äºè¯ä¸ä¸ï¼
<happyaron> ææ²¡é®é¢ï¼ ypwong ä½ è§å¾åæ ·
<ypwong> happyaron, åï¼ä½ æ¹äºåå¦ææå¡å¨é£è¾¹æ²¡åæ¶éåï¼æåå¢ï¼
<happyaron> ypwong: ç¨æ·é£è¾¹ä¾ç¶æåã
<ypwong> ..
<ypwong> æé®é® jjo å§
<ypwong> happyaron, ä½ æ³ multiverse æ restricted?
<happyaron> en
<ypwong> æç¹ping ä»
<happyaron> é£æç°å¨æåæ¶ååªä¸ªï¼
<JackYu> ååä¸ªmultiverse
<happyaron> ä½ ä»¬ä¿©ååéå¥½ï¼:)
<ypwong> happyaron, ä¸ç¨ precise, æ¯åï¼
<happyaron> ypwong: ç¨å¥é½è¡åï¼åªè¦å¥½ä½¿ã
<ypwong> happyaron, cool
<ypwong> é£ trusty main å°±å¯ä»¥ lol
<happyaron> mainä¸è¡å§
<happyaron> å¥½å§mainå§ã
<JackYu> ok, mainæå¥½
<ypwong> XD
<ypwong> technically it works, but confusing
<JackYu> æ©ï¼ ä»å½åUK archiveçå®ä¸ºæ¥çï¼mainæ¯å¯¹çï¼ä½å¦æä»¥åè¦æ¾å®å¨open sourceçpackageï¼å°±ä¸å¥½äºã
<JackYu> æä»¥è¿æ¯restrictedæmultiverseæ¯è¾å¥½ã
<happyaron> å°åºåªä¸ªããã
<JackYu> ypwong, ä½ è®¤ä¸ºå¢ï¼
<maclin_> ç°å¨source list éé¢æ¯mainå§ï¼
<ypwong> I prefer restricted
<maclin> ypwongï¼ +1
<maclin> ä¸è¿ä¸å®è¦ä¿è¯ç°æç¨æ·çä½¿ç¨æ­£å¸¸
<ypwong> maclin, UKSC ä¼æå½±å..
<ypwong> ?
<ypwong> wuxiaoyi, æ°åæåé¡
<ypwong> wuxiaoyi, çå°email åï¼
#ubuntukylin-devel 2014-04-27
<tivon> æäººä¸
<tivon> æ²¡äººï¼
#ubuntukylin-devel 2015-04-20
<ypwong> archive.ubuntukylin.com è¿è½ç¨åï¼
<zhsj> ypwong: http://archive.ubuntukylin.com:10006/ubuntukylin/ å¾æ¢åï¼å½±åapt-get updateåãã
<zhsj> ypwong: æå¡å¨æ¯å¨åªéçï¼éç½®å¾ä½è¿æ¯å¸¦å®½å¾å°åï¼
<zhsj> ypwong: å¦å¤ä¸æ¬¡å¥½åé®è¿ä½ åéåçäºï¼æç»æåï¼
<ypwong> zhsj, æè®¿é®ä¸äº
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<zhsj> ypwong: æè®¸ä½ ä»¬å¯ä»¥èèç¨cdnååå
<ypwong> zhsj, æä»¶å¾å¤§å¢ï¼æåè´¹çä»ç»å
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<ypwong> zhsj, ååæå©è¦åçæ¸ï¼è¦éå±±åæçé½åææè¡
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<zhsj> ypwong: ç¡®å®å¾éº»ç¦
<zhsj> ypwong: ä¸»è¦æ¯ç°å¨çæå¡å¨æ ¹æ¬ä¸è½ç¨å
<ypwong> zhsj, æ¯åï¼åä¸äº
<zhsj> ypwong: æ¯å¸¦å®½å°è¿æ¯éç½®ä½åï¼
<ypwong> zhsj, åºè¯¥æ¯å¸¦å®½ï¼å·ä½ææ²¡é®
<zhsj> ypwong: å¶å®éåçè¯ï¼è·éå±±ï¼æçè¯´ä¸åºè¯¥æ²¡é®é¢çå§ãPSï¼deepinå°±æwpsï¼sogouæ¾å¨ä¸»æºéäº
<ypwong> zhsj, deepinä¸é¸çæï¼ä»ä»¬æ²¡æåä½å³ç³»ï¼å¶å®æ¯ä¾µæ
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#ubuntukylin-devel 2016-04-26
<epegirc> Hello guys i'm trying to install sogo but i have problem with mysql connection "ERROR((null)): could not allocate MySQL4 connection!"
<hikiko> Trevinho,
<hikiko> I try to reproduce: Bug 1575168
<ubot5> bug 1575168 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Selecting a scaled window with mouse breaks keyboard navigation" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575168
<hikiko> but I can't
<hikiko> with scale or not
<Trevinho> hikiko: it's quite easy... at least in unity.
<Trevinho> hikiko: I can show you
<hikiko> sure :)
<hikiko> Trevinho, just reproduced it
<Trevinho> hikiko: nice... thank God one line fixed it
<Trevinho> :)
<hikiko> :D
<hikiko> bravo :)
#ubuntukylin-devel 2016-04-28
<handsome_feng> Hi, hikiko  Trevniho, Do you have any thing to discuss  at the meeting?
<handsome_feng> I think we can wrap this up , Thank you !
#ubuntukylin-devel 2017-04-25
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#ubuntukylin-devel 2017-04-28
<freeflying> happyaron: FJKong sogoupinyinç¨ä¸äºäº
<FJKong> freeflying: å¥æåµ
<FJKong> freeflying: ä»ä¹çç¶,å¥ç³»ç»
<freeflying> FJKong: 17.04ï¼ æççæä»¶èµ·æ¥äºï¼è¾å¥æ¶ä¹æåéæ¡ï¼å°±æ¯æ²¡æ±å­
<freeflying> æ±å­
<FJKong> é¢
#ubuntukylin-devel 2019-04-22
<handsome_feng> tomreyn: Hi, Ubuntu Kylin 18.04 will be supported for 3 years (the same as ubuntu MATE)
<handsome_feng> tomreyn, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes
<tomreyn> handsome_feng: thank you! i found it since on the general release notes.
<tomreyn> my (admittedly limited) understanding is that every ubuntu flavour should announce their support period in their own release announcements.
<tomreyn> i am not sure that is actually a rule, though
<tomreyn> and i'm just a community member. i've updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL accordingly, thanks for your input.
<handsome_feng> tomreyn: Sorry, it was my fault, Thank you for your reminding and I will add this part to the future release announcements, :)
