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<dsf> Sorry for the question but I really would like to know if the work 'Miyosui' exists in japanese? Can you tell me if it exists?
<dsf> s/work 'Miyosui'/word 'Miyosui'/
<dsf> or maybe 'Miosui' or 'Myosui'?
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello! No, I haven't heard of the name... If yes, I don't know...
<dsf> In the internet I was able to find this name in a scientific magazine: Norio MIYOSUI. http://www.journalarchive.jst.go.jp/english//jnltoc_en.php?cdjournal=jos1956&cdvol=38&noissue=10
<dsf>  Hi there. I was wondering if the word 'Miyosui' exists in japanese. I found this name: Norio Miyosui in a scientific paper and I would like to know the meaning of the name 'Miyosui'. Any one can help me on this?
<Emmanuel_Chanel> dsk: Isn't Miyosui a surname?
<Emmanuel_Chanel> It's too rare for me to spell in Kanji. Probably, so for the most people, too.
<dsf> Emmanuel_Chanel, I was able to find: Mi-ya-sui -> See - and - Easy. Which probably would give: 'Miyasui' - > The one that sees easily.
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Google found only one that you referred. It asks me if it's Miyoshi.
<dsf> Emmanuel_Chanel, Exactly. It can be. But what do you think about the name 'Miyasui' as a surname. In the web there are a lot of references related to this name. Do you know if the japanese use this name as a surname?
<Emmanuel_Chanel> I don't really know. It can be...
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#ubuntu-jp 2015-10-15
<sewardrobert> Hello, my daughter is learning Japanese and using lbuntu on an older laptop. How can she enter Kanji characters? Etc. I tried adding a Japanese "Keyboard Input" for her. Pressing "Super Space" key sequence shows  "JP and US" in a nice dialog on the screen. However regardless of how the input is toggled, Kanji char input sequences do NOT output Kanji chars. Any advice?
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
<Emmanuel_Chanel> sewardrobert: What input method do you use? ibus + mozc or ibus + anthy?
<sewardrobert> Emmanuel_Chanel: How would I know?
<Emmanuel_Chanel> I'm not good at US Keyboards since I'm a Japanese man using Japanese Keyboards. But you can see what software she has installed by aptitude
<Emmanuel_Chanel> $aptitude search ibus-anthy
<Emmanuel_Chanel> $aptitude search ibus-mozc
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Oh, you installed Japanese keyboard. So click [å¨è§/åè§]([Zenkaku/Hankaku]) on the left top corner.
<sewardrobert> Emmanuel_Chanel: Ha! I was thinking of buying a Japanese USB keyboard for her. But she has to learn these key sequences when she uses software at school.
<Emmanuel_Chanel> You can input Kanjis without Japanese keyboards. That's sure.
<Emmanuel_Chanel> You can do also on Windows' MS-IMSE.
<sewardrobert> Emmanuel_Chanel: This is on lbuntu with LXDE. Hitting "Super Space" key brings up a dialog that toggles between "JP and US". However the dialog seems to have no affect. I try to type "kho" for that symbol but all I see in gedit or abiword are the english characters "kho". I was expecting that when the Japanese Keyboard input is active, that "kho" would produce the corresponding Japanese symbol (kanji?) .
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Can I see her screen shot? I don't know if I could find something. You need to blacken her personal info, though.
<sewardrobert> Emmanuel_Chanel: Are you around for a bit? I need to start her laptop up and try again.
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Yes.
<Emmanuel_Chanel> She uses Lubuntu 14.04 now?
<sewardrobert> Yes that is correct.
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Left Click the ibus icon on the panel. The 2nd top icon of lench is for configuration. You see the edit button on the right of MS-IME or so.
<Emmanuel_Chanel> I'm not 100% sure if it will help. But you will find the configuration editor for what you want.
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Oh, there is http://moritzmolch.com/1453 Does it help you?
<Emmanuel_Chanel> How about switch from Super+Space to CTRL+Space ?
<sewardrobert> Emmanuel_Chanel: This is the first time I have tried to use Linux to generate symbols outside of "english" characters. Is my expectation correct? That once Japanese Keyboard Input is configured properly and active, that a keyboard sequence of "kho" should output the corresponding Kanji character?
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Yes. Looks kho doesn't have Japanese output on IME, though.
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Try input æ from inputting ai
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Input ai and [CTRL] + [Space] one or some times after that.
<sewardrobert> Oh. So you input the character sequence and the "Super Space" or "Control Space" (whatever you have configured). I expected it to be the reverse.
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Yes.
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Oh...
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Hhm...
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Enable mozc with pushing [META] + [Space] and input ai and I click [Space] bar.
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Someone others here?
<Emmanuel_Chanel> sewardrobert: How does it go?
<sewardrobert> Emmanuel_Chanel: Sorry I had a phone call.
<sewardrobert> I reconfigured the Keyboard Input to use Control Space instead of "Super Space". But it behaves largely the same.
<sewardrobert> Pressing Control Space and then typing "ai" and then space does not yeild Kanji. Instead it displays the english text "ai "
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Hhm...
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Is ibus daemon or so booted?
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Oh, booted...
<Emmanuel_Chanel> hhm... It's over midnight in Japan now. So hard to find other advisors...
<sewardrobert> Emmanuel_Chanel: http://moritzmolch.com/1453 seems to be very useful. I didn't have Japanese Language support installed. I am working on that currently.
<Emmanuel_Chanel> So solved?
<Emmanuel_Chanel> Good to hear.
<sewardrobert> Installed Japanese language support (with anthy) and then re-configured my Keyboard Input to have "Japanese - Anthy" and now I have Kanji!
<sewardrobert> Emmanuel_Chanel: Thank you. I am bookmarking that URL.
#ubuntu-jp 2016-10-21
<pavlushka> can I speak here in English?
<pavlushka> http://ftp.tsukuba.wide.ad.jp has some of their servers down, I use this repo, so having problems, I know I can switch to other repo, just to inform :)
