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CountryfiedLinuxhowdy00:13
CountryfiedLinuxMy pointer freezes during the live session. Gonna try the daily build.00:13
MadeByCryptichows life?00:22
pavan_yalamanchiHi ll00:24
nylocHi, I have a question I couldn't figure out via google so I hope you can help me I installed a custom repository using the instructions on this site: https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/220066768-UniFi-How-to-Install-Update-via-APT-on-Debian-or-Ubuntu00:27
nylocAnd the "apt update" finishes without errors after that but if I try to install the unifi package from that repo I get a warning saying: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!00:28
MadeByCrypticsudo apt update?00:30
nylocSo I double checked apt-key list which shows the ubiquiti key. Is there a way to figure out why the authentication of the package fails? The info is a bit sparse to hunt down the error for me.00:30
nylocMadeByCryptic: sure as I said that works fine00:30
nyloc.... Ign:5 http://dl.ubnt.com/unifi/debian unifi5 InRelease00:31
nylocHit:6 http://dl.ubnt.com/unifi/debian unifi5 Release00:31
nylocGet:7 http://dl.ubnt.com/unifi/debian unifi5 Release.gpg [490 B]00:31
nylocFetched 307 kB in 1s (265 kB/s)  ..... Reading package lists... Done00:31
nylocI manually downloaded the .deb file and compared the checksums which are ok, I'm open for any suggestions what to do now as I don't want to install as long as the warning is present.00:34
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asdfasdfconnect irc.highway.net00:39
asdfasdfwtf00:39
nylocok, got to go for now but I will idle so if anyone has an idea just highlight me I will read it in a few hours00:42
weusthello00:44
weustI am looking for the location of the MariaDB 10.1 example config files. Anyone know where they should be located? All the places where they should be located, don´t exist...00:45
texlaI want to transfer files and etc from my laptop using wifi to my desktop on hardwire...which program should I use ?00:50
weusthmm, apt-file search doesn´t even those the example files for mariadb installed or available in packages?00:50
texlaBoth computers running Ubuntu-16.0400:51
weusttexla, same subnet?00:51
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texlaweust, yes00:52
Bashing-omtexla: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two 'buntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1)00:52
texlaBashing-om, Thanks thought were out smoking !!!00:53
Bashing-omtexla: Only as the ocassion demands :)00:54
Ionicare the live images rebuilt periodicall?00:59
Ionics/?$/y?/00:59
OerHeksIonic, only the development versions, and point releases of LTS versions01:02
IonicOerHeks: that's unfortunate :/01:05
Ionicsometimes changes to the kernel help immensely even in the live system01:06
Ionicthat one for instance: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/164657401:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1646574 in linux (Ubuntu) "Mouse cursor invisible or does not move" [Medium,In progress]01:06
OerHeksIonic, if hardware is released *after* the ubuntu version, no wonder..01:07
OerHeksnewest of the newest take some time to be fully implemented01:07
Ionicunderstandable, but my point is that the kernel package has been fixed and released to -updates, which would also help immensely on the live system01:09
Ionicor more like, it's not as if the live system's kernel could be updated manually :)01:09
OerHeksmeh, invalid, you would need internet for the use of ubuntu.01:09
Ionic(though technically speaking, that *might* even be possible with kexec)01:09
kangaroo72Hello, I have connected a Windows-NTFS-HDD via USB/SATA-Connector to Ubuntu ... mount is okay, I can access data. But can I check, if the drive is okay without deleting data?01:11
Ionicit's difficult to even install the base system if you cannot see the cursor. not impossible, but also frustrating and not straight-forward01:11
OerHekskangaroo72, go into 'disks' and see the smart tool01:11
kangaroo72sorry (console only)01:11
OerHeksIonic, agian: newest of the newest take some time to be fully implemented01:12
kangaroo72well I can connect via vnc too - ok01:12
Ionickangaroo72: then use smartctl, although this may not work01:12
kangaroo72I have openbox as gui01:12
kangaroo72whats the command of the "smart tool"?01:12
Ionic(not because smartctl wouldn't work as such, but because some USB controllers do not forward SMART information)01:12
acheron-awell at least things are in the process of being fixed01:13
acheron-asome distros dont even care01:13
kangaroo72@OerHeks what exactly is the "smart tool"? I have gui, but I have to call it via terminal01:14
OerHekskangaroo72, that is on gnome versions, i don't know about openbox01:15
acheron-aover at *int there is a grub2 install failure going on and they are too busy working on cosmetic changes to be bothered to look into it01:15
kangaroo72hmm01:15
Bashing-omkangaroo72: check disk health: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" then "sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda ( where sda is the real target ) .01:16
weustSeems I am not the only one http://askubuntu.com/questions/822811/ubuntu-16-04-mariadb-no-sample-configurations01:17
serei have 11 invalid ip addresses.. how can i find out why?01:18
kangaroo72Bashing-om: Thanks ... what 'bout this report ...? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24205308/01:20
kangaroo72is a long test possible (over night)?01:21
OerHekskangaroo72, that -t test takes a few minuts01:23
Bashing-omkangaroo72: So far so good / old drive still chugg'n along . Long test : sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sda .01:23
kangaroo72thanks - will run this overnight - good night01:24
kangaroo72=== START OF OFFLINE IMMEDIATE AND SELF-TEST SECTION === Can't start self-test without aborting current test (90% remaining), add '-t force' option to override, or run 'smartctl -X' to abort test. 001:26
kangaroo72what means this?01:26
kangaroo72already running?01:26
cfhowlettyou have a test in progress.  let it finish01:26
kangaroo72where comes the output??01:26
kangaroo72when it's ready, how can I read the result of it?01:28
OerHekskangaroo72, on the screen and in the log01:28
kangaroo72syslog?01:28
kangaroo72ah - smartctl -l01:30
OerHeksyes, i think so01:30
kangaroo72ok :-)01:30
kangaroo72test ready in some hours01:35
kangaroo72going to sleep - thanks a lot01:35
cyhello01:35
Noob_help01:40
Bashing-om!help | Noob_01:40
ubottuNoob_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:40
ColdKeyboardCan someone help me estimate how long would it take for dd if=/dev/zero of=dev/sdb on a 4TB drive?01:42
OerHeksColdKeyboard, depends what you used on the BS=01:43
Bashing-omColdKeyboard: On my dual core athlon system 1 hour per 100 Gigs .01:43
OerHeksblock size01:43
ColdKeyboardI have i5 3rd gen on that "server". Brand new HDD was super slow with speed transfer so I run zero fill with the command above. I thing block size is 4k. I didn't specify anything01:45
Ben64it's faster if you choose a size01:45
Ben64and filling with zeros wouldn't have an effect on speed01:45
ColdKeyboardDidn't know that. It's already running now so there's not much I can do. I just wanted to see how far off it could be now, since it's been running for ~4h01:46
Random832ColdKeyboard, the default block size is 512 bytes01:47
Random832ColdKeyboard, you can send SIGUSR1 to the dd process to find out how far along it is01:47
Bashing-omColdKeyboard: Look in the man page ' man dd ' it gives a means to get a status .01:48
ColdKeyboardBut I can't do it now since it's already running?01:48
Bashing-omColdKeyboard: One cam get a status from a alternate terminal .01:49
foozb12Salut. Apache2 appears to start on boot. Im using Lubuntu, I dont see anything in my autostart settings related to apache. Where should i be looking?01:49
foozb12I have xampp installed but I don't believe it's related to that.  I recently installed zoneminder (for security cameras) and uninstalled it. I believe it's related to that, but I have no idea where to look for apache2 autostarting01:50
xar-you don't want apache2 to autostart?01:54
Noob_Hey my question is on network file/folder sharing. What i want to do is have one public folder share where guests can read and write, and within that folder have folders locked to certain users. The idea is so if a windows machine maps the share as a drive using their login details they can access not just the public section but all folders associated with their group. So far i've managed to share the public folder no problems but e01:57
Noob_ven after mapping with the correct user details i cannot access the private folders.01:57
Noob_just to note all the private folders i've been using chmod to set their security. (thinking from a windows mind)01:58
uL4m0ghi newbie here, how can i tell the terminal which specific package is installed? like if I wanna know if- ' xsel ' package is installed what do i type in terminal01:58
Noob_oh my msg didnt finish "but i cannot access the private folders even when logged in with correct user details"01:59
yubinruL4m0g, Try `apt list --installed`02:01
Bashing-omuL4m0g:02:01
xar-uL4m0g: dpkg -l '*xsel*' | grep ii02:01
Bashing-omuL4m0g: ' dpkg -l <package> ' .02:01
xar-too slow!02:01
Bashing-omxar-: :) ,, Uh huh ,, but it is the thought that counts .02:02
yubinrNoob_: You want to access file on a windows box?02:02
uL4m0gyubinr, Bashing-om, xar, thanks!02:08
yubinrMany people quit and many people join...those messages are so annoying, Any one know how to get rid of that in Xchat or Quassel?02:09
OerHeks!quietirc02:09
ubottuTo ignore joins/parts/quits in your favorite IRC client, see http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages02:09
Bashing-omuL4m0g: :) One small step on the learning curve .02:09
cool_boywhy amazon EC2 doesn't ask for password on using sudo, even though there is no entry for NOPASSWD in visudo02:16
noob_was my question answered while i was gone?02:16
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cncr04shave you added it near the bottom of the list02:16
cncr04sand not on the top02:16
yubinrnoob_: do you want to access files in a Windows machine?02:17
noob_yes02:18
yubinrWell...I don't really know Windows that well,,,sorry02:19
yubinrnoob_,02:19
noob_but in your experience with samba and file sharing is there an easy was to share folders locked to certain users02:21
noob_but also allow them access to the public folders02:21
noob_lol windows made my life too easy lol02:21
histonoob_: So you want user shares and public share as well?02:21
noob_yes so one public space and within there the private folders of users02:22
serei have 11 invalid ip addresses.. how can i find out why? is there a log file somewhere?02:22
histonoob_: you would use the samba config to change the permissions of the shares not chmod02:22
noob_so would you be able to give me an example of what should be entered. and would these configs be placed in the main conf file or would there be a new file for this?02:24
histo!samba | noob02:24
ubottunoob: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba.html02:24
histo!samba | noob_02:24
ubottunoob_: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba.html02:24
histonoob_: I'd imagine you could probably do it via the GUI as well via sharing options but I haven't used that in ages.02:25
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Noob_thanks02:26
maneeshaHi - I'm trying to get help on this question -- I've listed tons of things I've tried, with no success:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/893473/manage-keyboard-backlight-on-dual-boot-system02:41
maneeshaNo one on askubuntu forum has responded as able to help, so I'm hoping someone here might see it and help02:42
Jakeukalane_hello, I don't know if here is the right place but I can't identificate with my main irc program. I put msg nickserv identify Jakeukalane (password) and nothing happens02:43
andrzejspeake pl02:53
cfhowlett!ping03:11
ubottupong!03:11
sarkoidis it bad that my /boot partition is 100% full03:11
cfhowlettsarkoid, means you will be unable to apply kernel updates.  clean it up!03:11
sarkoidah03:12
user345634How do I create a hard disk image with a FAT partition from a directory without root privileges?03:21
Ben64user345634: can you explain what you mean more precisely03:21
user345634I have a directory, let's call it my_root_dir with some files in it.03:22
user345634I want to create a 1 GB hard disk image that contains a single FAT partition that has the files in my_root_dir on the root of the partition.03:23
Ben64there probably are some really roundabout ways, but it'd be much easier if you could mount things03:25
w9qbj /part03:28
mike34729374@user345634 why do u need that? use case?03:28
user345634I'm writing a Wii homebrew app, and need to create a virtual SD card image for use with Dolphin Emulator.03:33
AurorasauraHow would I find out if i have a upstart equiped linux diistro?03:33
Ben64user345634: so why does it need to happen without using sudo03:33
cfhowlettubuntu uses systemd, Aurorasaura03:33
AurorasauraThanks cfhowlett ,03:34
cfhowletthappy2help!03:34
LulZsEChow do I break into wifi guys?03:34
user345634I used sudo in the past to make an image for qemu, and typed the wrong thing and ended up destroying my main hard disk.03:34
mike34729374user345634 i presume u use ubuntu,, dolphin offers linux+win+osx03:34
user345634I'd rather be safe.03:35
cfhowlettLulZsEC, we don't do that here.03:35
Ben64user345634: so learn the right way to do it03:35
LulZsECoh sry guyss.03:35
LulZsECsorry i just play time linux03:36
alexander_Hello.!03:36
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nskhello03:41
mike34729374mike34729374 - are you still waiting for an answer03:47
mike34729374Question: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on an external flash drive. By mistake a windows 10 system booted with the flash drive still attached. Windows 10 might also have gone into boot up repair. Now the flash drive does not boot any more. Is Windows 10 Bootup killing Ubuntu boot info a thing?03:54
histouser345634: you can format a file03:55
cfhowlettoh yes.  windows does not co-exist peacefully and windows boot repair is rather aggressive03:55
mike34729374like "there can only be one" aggressive? ;_D03:56
cfhowlettpretty much yes03:56
histouser345634: truncate -s 1024M file.img03:56
histouser345634: then mkfs.vfat file.img03:57
histoor something similar03:57
sarkoidwhew fixed my boot partition thing03:58
mike34729374so for a completely uninteresting and non obvious reason, mission critical stuff (ok....) has to be run off ubuntu on usb (omg? are $"§$"%"%Q§$). No, but has to be. So i can chalk this up to windows boot up and not generic harware or kernel failure. The winPartition will be removed in the final iteration.03:58
histomike34729374: Most likely there is some other problem. Windows shouldn't be modifying the usb04:04
mike34729374hmmm... rest of the drive seems ok. Just had a second look though: main disk runs as a mmc and the flash drive was actually attached as sdcard and running in mmc mode. it wasn't run through an sdcard adapter at that time. Should have looked to windows as a secondary hard disk.04:07
histomike34729374: what is the issue when you try to boot from usb now?04:12
LACampbellwhen I type my IP address inthe browser, I am getting "Apache2 Ubuntu Default Page" even though I have purged apache04:14
LACampbellhow can I fix this?04:14
mike34729374sdcard does not show up in efi menu or as efi partition any more. If grub efi is manually selected through efi prompt or boot from file, ubuntu boots normally. I have to troubleshoot to exclude possibility of data corruption04:15
histoLACampbell: is apache still running?04:17
LACampbellhisto: systemctl can't find apache or apache204:17
LACampbellservice not found.04:18
LACampbellbut that page is still there, even though it should be pointing to nginxs default page04:18
tatertotsLACampbell: have you rebooted since this "purging" you speak of?04:18
histoLACampbell: does netstat -tan show you are listening on 80?04:18
LACampbelltatertots: can't remember, I'll give it a try. dunno why "purging" is in quotes, the command is apt purge04:19
LACampbellhisto: yeap still listening in 8004:20
LACampbellI assume that's nginx, as that service is running, but I have no clue04:20
histoLACampbell: well now nginx is listening but hosting apaches default page thats all04:21
techbomberis 128bit OS  pointless04:21
histotechbomber: wut?04:21
techbomberis 128bit OS  pointless?04:21
LACampbellhisto: huh. wonder how the hell that happened04:22
histoLACampbell: no idea, what your configuration files look like or what you were doing to tell. You'd have to take a look at how nginx is configured and what site it's hosting.04:23
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mike34729374histo - sdcard does not show up in efi menu or as efi partition any more. If grub efi is manually selected through efi prompt or boot from file, ubuntu boots normally. I have to troubleshoot to exclude possibility of data corruption04:30
mike34729374need to run docker containers off an sdcard, i 100% positive that thaw not best practice, but has to be. Thats's why it is important.04:31
histomike34729374: If you're booting off of usb why does the sdcard not showing up in efi prompt matter?  I'm completely confused as to what your question is now.04:32
mike34729374I am troubleshooting a possible data corruption issue. that is why failure modes are more important to me than the current status of the drive.04:33
mike34729374I understand the confusion about the startup issue and the bios04:34
mike34729374The system has three places for efi information04:34
mike34729374One: Bootup select. After the win start, the ubuntu drive does not show up any more.04:34
mike34729374Two: efi info in the efi bios, which lists all efi partition. The ubuntu does not show up there any more either.04:35
histomike34729374: Why do you suspect data corruption?04:37
mike34729374Three: Manual efi select. This is a troubleshoot tool. It is part of the efi system and provides filesystem access. All partitions are listed there regardless of efi status. Partition access is provided, the efi bios has a filesystem driver . any file can be elected for a load and start attempt. Browsing the ubuntu partition for the grub efi and selecting it boots the system.04:37
mike34729374The problem is that i have no failure mode for a change in the efi boot sect of the ubuntu drive and i have no filure mode for the removal of the partition boot sect of the ubuntu fat boot partition.04:38
histomike34729374: What?04:39
mike34729374Ubuntu started. Now it does not any more. Something has changed the boot sect. I would like to have that not corrupt any containers on the disk. Also, i was considering checksumming, hence the btrfs question04:42
mike34729374the sdcard does not boot by itself any more like it used. There has been a change to the sdcard.04:42
histomike34729374: is there only one partition on the "usb" ?04:44
mike34729374nah. complete ubuntu install, 3 partitons. boot/efi (fat32), root (ext4) and swap ;) .. wanted to have a vanilla install.04:45
histomike34729374: does the efi partition have the boot flag enabled?04:48
mike34729374will have to look. just gonna lot it and have a look in parted. I presume not bit will look.04:49
histomike34729374: yeah look in parted04:49
histomike34729374: parted -l | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw/?u=104:50
mike34729374strage... brb04:54
histomike34729374: is this a new install?  I'm wondering what your /etc/fstab looks like as well. Curious to what ubuntu thinks is it's efi partition04:58
mike34729374haha, also never would have thought that that abomination would ever boot :) ...04:59
mike34729374currently looks like a hardware issue is involved... sdcard does not work in the sd slot any more05:00
histoK.05:00
mike34729374    paretd -l05:01
mike34729374sry.. wrong keyboard...05:01
histoSound like you need more testing to determine what happened. I would check the /etc/fstab on the USB, you may have installed grub to the efi on the c drive and windows blew that out.05:02
histomike34729374: not c drive but hard drive....I meant.05:02
mike34729374no, i understand. that did not happen. the windows drive and controller ere deactivated during install. Ubuntu installer ver saw the windows drive05:03
mike34729374never saw the windows drive ..05:03
histomike34729374: how long was this configuration working prior to breaking?  Or is this all new?05:03
mike34729374it worked in the sdcard slot until about the time i missed a key press to select the ubuntu as boot and windows startet. that would be about 5 reboots and 24 hours of runtime. Software on the system executed reliably.05:05
mike34729374gparted05:06
mike34729374sry.. switching keyboards all the time05:06
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mike34729374histo05:16
mike34729374<histo> : sdcard looks regular atm. parted shows: 1 fat32 EFI system Partition, Flags boot, esp05:18
mike347293742 ext 405:18
mike347293743 linux swap.05:18
mike34729374no obvious changes regarding parted05:19
mike34729374<histo> stab looks ok. too. no obvious corruption. shows mount points for root and boot05:22
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wolftunehelp! I'm getting a Failed to start LSB: AppArmor issue on startup05:37
wolftuneafter a while, some process starts and counts up to 1:30 in time about something and then eventually the system boots fine05:38
wolftunebut obviously, something isn't right here05:38
wolftuneI see this question someone posted, but no answers: https://askubuntu.com/questions/794998/ubuntu-16-04-failed-to-start-lsb-apparmor-initialization05:40
azizLIGHT!apparmor05:42
ubottuFor information about the AppArmor security framework employed in Ubuntu (since Gutsy Gibbon), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor05:42
wolftuneI tried apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, that's installed…05:44
wolftunesudo apparmor_status shows 0 profiles and processes active among all the entries it lists05:44
mike34729374histo: seems like a card/controller error might be possible. Sdcard does not show up from the card slot any more, other card does and boots. Ubuntu card only shows up in usb card reader05:47
wolftunehttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24206508/05:48
wolftuneazizLIGHT: any ideas?05:48
gnubuntuare fonts still good if you net install ubuntu05:48
azizLIGHTwolftune: oh sorry i wasnt trying to indicate i was helping or something. just checking what the bot had to say about it05:49
azizLIGHTi am a nub05:49
azizLIGHT:)05:49
wolftunethanks anyway05:49
wolftuneI'm no expert, just a not-so-new end-user (since 2012)05:50
gnubuntuwill there be a i386 iso for 18.04 lts05:50
mike34729374i have to have further testing. anybody have any experience with btrfs/zfs on sdcard media?05:50
mike34729374wolftune - what did you do when the error occurred?05:50
wolftunemike34729374: I've seen it several times in last few weeks, it just happens on boot (I have silent boot off so I see the messages on screen)05:51
wolftunemike34729374: at first I just waited and boot eventually happened and I just ignored it and use the system05:51
wolftunemike34729374: when I looked things up, I tried that apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu package from apt but it's still there05:52
wolftuneI think I ought to want it working, and I want my startup to not be delayed by this failure, but it's not really affecting me as far as I can tell05:53
gnubuntuhow do firefox updates work for lts releases05:54
mike34729374k. I usually don't run ubuntu as a guy os, and i don't have any experiences with app armor. But did you try to use a virus check lately?05:54
azizLIGHT!deb05:54
ubottudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.05:54
mike34729374gui os.05:54
cfhowlettmy FFOX regularly updates on LTS gnubuntu05:54
wolftunewell, I'm turning in. If anyone reading this has a clue about the apparmor thing, please answer the question at https://askubuntu.com/questions/794998/ubuntu-16-04-failed-to-start-lsb-apparmor-initialization05:57
herpderphurrHey all. I recently learned the X server allows all processes running under the same user to listen in on input events. Does Mir offer security features to guard against applications listening for these events (I'm planning on running some 3rd party stuff through a container)?06:00
herpderphurrAh, it looks like I might have found the answer to my question. Looks like the articles referenced on this post ( https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321958 ) show that Mir definitely prevents arbitrary applications from listening to input events.06:06
herpderphurrI think that opens up the possibilities of the types of desktop environments I'm looking to switch to and try out. :)06:06
gnubuntugnome works with wayland06:08
herpderphurrI was actually thinking about trying out mate, but if I'm reading correctly, it looks like they need to finish doing some work with GTK3.06:09
gnubuntumir is ubuntu only06:09
gnubuntuafaik only gnome is usable06:10
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iwan-wHi, what does it mean if a snap package version is "daily"?  'snap find vlc' returns name: vlc, version: daily06:28
lotuspsychjeiwan-w: not sure, but i think it might mean latest06:31
ESphynxWhy did an upgrade decide that I no longer need ethernet drivers?06:35
lotuspsychjeESphynx: ubuntu version? chipset? driver in use?06:36
ESphynxlotuspsychje: I just upgraded to 16.1006:36
ESphynxand looks like it decided I didn't need a driver for my Qualcomm Atheros anymore.06:36
lotuspsychjeESphynx: sudo lshw -C network doesnt show driver= version anymore?06:37
ESphynxcouldn't it take a hint that if I had it installed and it used, I might need it? (or couldn't all ethernet drivers just be available as modules? surely with all those GB it's taking up this would be good use of space.)06:37
cfhowlettESphynx, I've seen that before with broadcom.  pieces were incorporated into the driver, so no need for separate driver.06:38
ESphynxthere's some disabled in there06:38
lotuspsychjeESphynx: does it show unclaimed or does it driver= ?06:39
ESphynxlotuspsychje: it seems to show driver=atl1c06:39
lotuspsychjeESphynx: so, that means driver is still in use06:40
lotuspsychjeESphynx: lets have a look inside your syslog, whats happening exactly?06:40
ESphynxwhy is it DISABLED?06:40
lotuspsychjelets investigate06:40
ESphynxhow can I turn the touchpad off, why isn't there an option to turn the touchpad off?06:41
ESphynx"Touchpad and mouse options" but there is not a single toucpad option such as disabled in there... 2 years later still.06:41
Cyber_AkumaIs there an equivalent of an "all programs" menu in Ubuntu like what it had before they switched to Cinnamon? I seem to only be able to search06:42
lotuspsychjeESphynx: also if you choose non-LTS things might be buggy at some times, want more stable? choose LTS?06:42
ESphynxlotuspsychje: I had an LTS relase that was full of bugs06:43
lotuspsychjeCyber_Akuma: there is a classic meny indicator for unity if you want?06:43
ESphynxlotuspsychje: what should I be looking for in my syslog?06:43
lotuspsychjeESphynx: anything related your atheros06:44
ESphynxlotuspsychje: nothing06:44
Cyber_Akumalotuspsychje: How do I get to it?06:45
lotuspsychje!info classicmenu-indicator | Cyber_Akuma06:46
ESphynxlotuspsychje: well the network device is working just fine after I used 'ifconfig' to set it up06:46
ubottuCyber_Akuma: classicmenu-indicator (source: classicmenu-indicator): indicator showing the main menu from Gnome Classic. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 27 kB, installed size 280 kB06:46
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ESphynxlotuspsychje: but why won't it show in my list of devices, and why did the upgrade lose that?06:46
lotuspsychjeESphynx: have you tryed a reboot or network restart yet?06:46
Cyber_AkumaOh, so it's a package I need to install?06:46
lotuspsychjeESphynx: did update, update anything related network?06:46
lotuspsychjeCyber_Akuma: yes its an indicator package, that simulates a start menu06:47
ESphynxlotuspsychje: I upgraded from 15.04 or so06:47
ESphynxor earlier maybe06:48
lotuspsychjeESphynx: wily is end of life right06:48
tatertotsESphynx: in terminal>    sudo apt install inxi pastebinit06:48
tatertotsESphynx: when it's done....say so06:48
ESphynxtatertots: I don't have network yet06:48
ESphynxlotuspsychje: well how fun, if I login with 'Ubuntu (Default)' I see the Wired in the network menu; but no such thing in GNOME (Classic)06:50
ESphynxalso got a crash already with compiz...06:50
ESphynxthe 'network' icon and system settings looks exactly the same, it's not?06:51
tatertotsESphynx: are you able to establish a hardwired connection?06:51
ESphynxwhy does Wired not show when I log in with GNOME Classic?06:52
alkisgDoes it work with the guest account?06:53
ESphynxit's saying 'Unmanaged' though06:53
lotuspsychjemorning alkisg, you can find us in discuss :p06:53
tatertotsESphynx: so your response or answer should read "no" correct?06:54
ESphynxtatertots: well I'm going to manually set it up06:55
ESphynxmaybe this -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/2901/unmanaged-network-icon-network-manangement-disabled06:59
ESphynxmanaged=false ...06:59
tatertotsESphynx: try answering more questions than you make up or think up....and take action and report what actions you take07:00
tatertotsESphynx: i'll ask you again07:01
tatertotsESphynx: are you able to establish a hardwired connection?07:01
tatertotsESphynx: u said you were going to manually set it up....keep quiet until you complete doing so07:01
foxv71Hi anyone07:03
darthho0Hey, my OS won't boot with a proprietary nvidia  driver... any help?07:03
foxv71darthho0: Boot to black screen?07:03
cfhowlettdarthho0, does it boot without nvidia?07:03
darthho0cfhowlett: yeah...07:04
darthho0now it's not recognizing my graphics card...07:04
cfhowlettdarthho0, boot it up and open a terminal07:04
darthho0after i disconnected it and rebooted07:04
darthho0it's on right now07:04
foxv71darthho0: Make sure secure boot is turned off07:04
cfhowlettdarthho0, lsb_release -d       returns what?07:04
toasttoast1307:05
foxv71darthho0: Then reboot should work07:05
darthho016.04.2 cfhowlett07:05
darthho0foxv71: how do I turn off secure boot07:05
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foxv71darthho0: What brand is your computer?07:05
darthho0Custom AsRock Fatal1ty mobo07:05
foxv71darthho0: Ok hang on07:06
darthho0cfhowlett: it returns 16.04.207:07
cfhowlettdarthho0, got it.  seems that foxv71 might have a better handle than I do.  fwiw: my nvidia on a dell m3800 works fine.07:08
darthho0cfhowlett: are you using a proprietary driver?07:08
cfhowlettyep07:09
darthho0What card do you have?07:09
cfhowlettwhen I need it.  I usually leave it switched off07:09
foxv71darthho0: Boot into your uefi07:09
darthho0oh ok secure boot is blocking the proprietary driver from loading the computer?07:10
foxv71darthho0: Look for secure boot07:11
foxv71darthho0: Yep07:11
darthho0foxv71: uefi is just the bios right?07:11
foxv71darthho0: yes :)07:11
darthho0ok be right back07:11
ESphynxhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/838865/network-manager-refusing-to-manage-wired-interfaces -- seems very related to this. maybe because my partition is XFS07:16
alkisgGood morning lotuspsychje! I managed to netboot the 12.04 server and upgrade it to 16.04 the other day, by using grub-ipxe and a very remote ltsp server :)07:17
lotuspsychje!yay | alkisg07:18
ubottualkisg: Glad you made it! :-)07:18
alkisg:07:18
ESphynxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1638842 -- wont-fix ? wth?07:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1658921 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1638842 NetworkManager does not manage wired connection" [Undecided,Confirmed]07:18
ESphynxlotuspsychje, tatertots: FYI the fix was 'sudo touch /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf ; sudo service network-manager restart'07:21
ESphynxWhy I have to do such an awkward thing after an upgrade with what had a vocation to be the friendliest Linux distro in this day and age is baffling.07:22
lotuspsychjeESphynx: want stable, choose LTS...also bugs just occur sometime..on every Os07:23
cfhowlettbugs happen.  in ALL distros and OS's07:23
ESphynxthey just happen a lot more on some ;)07:23
foxv71it's free I wouldn't complain07:24
uja_muntuBugs don't occur, they are put there for a reason.07:24
tatertotsESphynx: good deal...glad you got it done07:25
ESphynxthanks for the help guys.07:25
lotuspsychjeuja_muntu: there's no evil bug conspiracy here..07:25
foxv71lotuspsychje: Bugs are there to make Microsoft feel better about their self07:27
lotuspsychjefoxv71: lets not discuss that here07:28
ESphynxwhy does compiz keep crashing :(07:28
f0ryhi07:28
foxv71lotuspsychje: Discuss what?07:29
ESphynxand now I lost my mouse cursor...07:29
xinhengyuHow can I play the game league of legends via lutris?07:33
cfhowlettxinhengyu, have you asked lutris?07:33
foxv71xinhengyu: dota 2 :P07:35
foxv71darthho0: Work?07:36
darthho0hey I'm having trouble with nvidia proprietary drivers and being able to boot into ubuntu. My graphics card ever since enabling driver isn't recognized07:36
darthho0oh nope07:36
foxv71darthho0: https://www.howtogeek.com/196740/how-to-fix-an-ubuntu-system-when-it-wont-boot/07:37
darthho0i think my cpu is better than my graphics card...07:37
foxv71Run dpkg and grub07:37
darthho0geforce gtx 220 vs 670007:37
darthho0ok i'll look at that07:38
foxv71darthho0: gtx 220!07:38
foxv71darthho0: lol07:38
darthho0it's old... i'm buying a 1070 or 80 soon07:38
foxv71darthho0: I use a 1070 on Ubuntu works great07:38
darthho0yeah been thinking of a watercooled 107007:38
darthho0it cost 45007:39
darthho0but then a 1080 just cost 50007:39
foxv71darthho0: Go 1080 if you can07:40
darthho0hey foxv71 i don't think this page even applies to me... because I can't even get my monitor to turn on when I have graphics card hooked up07:40
darthho0yeah that's what I'm thinking07:40
darthho0I need a new psu if I go 108007:41
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foxv71darthho0: I would just use Intel HD 530 for now07:41
darthho0yeah I think it's better then the 22007:42
darthho0lmao07:42
foxv71darthho0: I run my 1070 on a 500W07:42
darthho0yeah I have 400w07:42
darthho0how much did you pay for 107007:43
darthho0founders edition?07:43
foxv71darthho0: No07:43
foxv71Evga SC07:43
foxv71darthho0: I think it was about $43007:43
darthho0oic nice.07:43
foxv71darthho0: Having a hard time with my 960m in my laptop 0_007:44
darthho0running ubuntu foxv71?07:46
foxv71darthho0: Yep :P07:46
foxv71darthho0: 16.1007:47
darthho0wow, i had a netbook i had using ubuntu... never ever had problems... Now since I built this computer all I had is problems... reminds me of a alt linux distribution like slackware... kinda disgust me.07:47
foxv71darthho0: What other problems are you having?07:48
darthho0umm alot of installation problems... had to reinstall like 5 times07:50
darthho0was horrible07:50
foxv71darthho0: Not booting after install?07:51
darthho0yeah one time i switched to gdm after clean install hoping to use gnome307:52
darthho0after that it wouldn't boot up07:52
foxv71darthho0: Did you have the gtx card in at that time?07:53
darthho0nope07:53
darthho0restarting07:53
darthho0brb07:53
pabedhello guys , I installed l2tp/ipsec client packages in ubuntu 16.04 but every time I want to connect it asks me password while I saved it .07:55
foxv71pabed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/444866/how-to-save-vpn-passwords-with-networkmanger-for-nmcli08:00
pabedfoxv71: but there is nothing here sudo nano /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/MyConnectionExampleName08:05
yaccIs there some way to keep make ubuntu keep the monitor configuration when I "switch off" the monitors? (I've got a laptop, that shares two displays with a desktop, and everytime I switch the displays from desktop to laptop, all the windows end up in the display that switched last)08:10
pabedfoxv71: I don't know I must add http://paste.ubuntu.com/24206940/ or edit it ,08:11
xxooanybody here?08:14
baizonxxoo: yes08:14
foxv71pabed: ls /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/08:14
xxoohello08:15
yaccBut we don't talk to this progressive IPv6 users :-P08:15
baizonxxoo: hi08:15
xxoowhat's the topic about the talking room?08:17
xxoonot funny08:18
minimecyacc: What do you mean by "switch off". If you have two connectors @ the monitor and switch between the two inputs, you shouldn't have a problem. If you have to physically unplug the cable from the laptop and plug it to the desktop, then the xserver of the laptop will automatically change from dual display to one display mode and all windows land on the last available monitor.08:20
pabedfoxv71: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24206965/08:20
calrikanyone know how to fix my mouse to stop it from going to sleep? I don't touch it for 1-2 seconds and it goes to sleep and I have to click buttons to get it to wake up again. Its very very annoying. Im using Ubuntu 16.10 atm but was having same issue 16.04 thought upgrade would solve the problem08:21
yaccminimec, Actually, one display uses two different HDMI inputs, and one uses VGA/DVI, and yes I switch internally on the displays and seems like my desktop (I'm not 100% sure about the laptop for other reasons) detects if the display goes from displaying DVI to VGA :(08:22
yaccminimec, I do not plug anything hardware wise, but I switch the input signal on the display, and I get the effect you described (everything ending up on the last display).08:23
yacccalrik, google "preventing usb sleep ubuntu"08:23
minimecyacc: I also have some dual plug monitors DVI/VGA. I never have problems with that. I can just switch between the two inputs.08:24
foxv71pabed: Use nano to edit your vpn config file....08:24
tatertotscalrik: is it a wireless mouse that takes triple A or double A batteries/08:25
tatertotscalrik: is it a wireless mouse that takes triple A or double A batteries?08:25
calrikno its a plugged in mouse08:25
calrikusb08:25
yacccalrik, I also have a small python script that I wrote to prevent USB devices going to sleep.08:25
calrikI tried a few things from google like using lsusb and getting the device id and preventing it from sleeping that way but still not working08:26
calrikits a big problem08:27
yaccminimec, I completely agree with you, as it's basically the behavior that I'm used to (years ago), but 16.04 seems to do something different.08:32
foxv71well sudo shutdown -h now08:35
minimeccalrik: "I tried a few things from google"... Did you try that too? "sudo apt install powernap"... then  "sudo powernap-action --disable usb_autosuspend". Never had to do that, but looks promising...08:35
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calrikyeah I have tried a few things08:36
calrikI been hesitant using info that is older then a year.08:37
calrikI have tlp instead and tried to blacklist the usb port from sleeping to no avail08:37
calrikI can try powernap but dont want it to conflict with anything 16.04 has added to the mix08:38
minimeccalrik: So you don't face the problem without tlp? regarding conflicts... I guess you can just remove powernap, in case it is not working...08:39
calrikI get the problem regardless of any powermanagement software08:39
calrikIm starting to think its something brought in by one of the latest kernels08:39
calrikIf it is a kernel issue using solutions that are over a year old is not going to help me08:41
calrikhttp://hamwaves.com/usb.autosuspend/en/index.html08:42
tatertotscalrik: have you ever NOT had the symptom?08:42
calrikbasically could be my mouse is not compatible with usb autosuspend08:42
tatertotscalrik: does the symptom occur if you use another usb mouse instead of the one you are using now?08:43
calrikyes a brand new install with out doing a system upgrade I dont think I have the issue08:43
tatertotscalrik: does the symptom occur when booted to livecd/liveusb?08:43
tatertotscalrik: those are all questions you should be able to answer "definitively"...definitively in this context means a clear yes or no that contains no additional other words08:44
calrikI haven't booted from a live usb with it, Im just trying a different mouse08:47
calrikbasic microsoft mouse doesnt have the issue08:47
tatertotscalrik: ok...so let me ask you again...remember definitive in this context means replying with simply yes or no08:48
calrikmy the mouse Im having issue with is a thermaltake sentinal gaming mouse08:48
tatertotscalrik: does the symptom occur if you use another usb mouse instead of the one you are using now?08:48
calrikno08:49
minimeccalrik: I had to check that... and I can confirm that problem on a Lenovo x230 with Ubuntu 16.04. I don'ts have the problem on a Acer Chromebook with Fedora 25. I will test with a different mouse.08:49
calrikjust did with basic microsoft no issue08:49
tatertotscalrik: from your observation and testing it appears thy symptom is isolated to 1 specific hardware device commonly referred to as a mouse08:49
calrikwow08:50
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calriktatertots are you a bot?08:50
calrikbecause you talk like one08:50
calrikits very patronising08:50
tatertotscalrik: have you consulted with the hardware manufacture to determine if the specific hardware device has any drivers?08:50
calrikright because my manufacturer is really going to give two shits about ubuntu08:51
tatertotscalrik: have you consulted any search engines or ubuntu forums to determine if other users of that specific hardware device are using any 3rd party drivers for that specific device?08:52
yacccalrik, https://www.google.at/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=thermaltake+sentinal+gaming+mouse&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=xEbOWIqWNaGg8we28pSADQ#channel=fs&q=thermaltake+sentinal+gaming+mouse+usb+sleep&*08:52
calriktatertots can you just shut up please Im getting help thanks08:52
calrikthanks Yacc you have been great help08:53
yacccalrik, not sure if that's your mouse, but the first article pops out as "Razer's brand new mamba doesn't like to sleep"???08:53
tatertotscalrik: i just help you actually figure out it was your mouse that was the issue and not all the stuff you dreamed up like kernels,upgrades, power management....you should actually be thanking me...i know u don't know any better so i'll let it slide this time....good luck...and....YOU'RE WELCOME08:54
yacctatertots, actually, there are sometimes devices that don't react to USB power management that well. I still think that Ubuntu should somehow be able to work easily with those.08:55
calriktatertots: next time try not to sound so patronising and robotic thanks in advance.08:56
tatertotscalrik: next time.....try using a different mouse...thanks in advanced08:57
pabedfoxv71: this is l2tp config file where I should enter my password in order to save .http://paste.ubuntu.com/24207052/08:57
yacc(tatertots my rapoo keyboard tended to go to sleep really really quick, and eat a keypress on wakeup, very sucky. Not exactly a Linux/Ubuntu issue, although turning off USB power suspend, or more specifically the "ease" of doing it, aka write a script to find the correct usb file in /sys/ and set the values plus write a udev rule, is kind of an Ubuntu issue)08:57
calriktatertots: how about go fuck yourself?08:57
xinhengyuWell,just ignore my question. I am downloading the game.08:59
tatertotscalrik: if i do...you have to give me your "good" mouse and suffer with the one you have problems with...deal?09:01
calrikwell Im actually going to find the bug in ubuntu and in the kernel relating to whats causing this and try and isolate so Ubuntu can patch the problem, because there are heaps of people with this issue/bug.09:03
calrikIts kinda what I thought this channel was about, not giving up and just swapping for inferior products because its in the too hard basket09:04
calrikok so the issue just happened with a basic microsoft mouse09:05
calrikjust not as noticable09:05
calrikstill very annoying and making ubuntu not usable09:06
yaccdrm/i915: Resetting chip after gpu hang <= so what do I do against these lines in my kernel log, they also make my GUI hang for a 1-2 seconds. (Perfectly timed: long enough to be irritating, but not to make the whole box completely unusable :( )09:06
tatertotscalrik: is this your mouse?   https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-MO-LTM009DT-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B009GTV3S4%3Fpsc%3D1%26SubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-d-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB009GTV3S409:07
calrikmate the issue isnt the mouse its power management on the usb ports09:07
calrikso forget all about the mouse09:08
yacccalrik, yeah, as a guess, it depends upon how the USB gadget is handling USB powermanagement, my assumption would be that Linux does it by the book, but some USB products do not manage to do it by the book.09:08
calrikthings got changed with the 4.7 and 4.8 kernel from what I am reading09:09
calrikregarding usb auto suspend09:09
yacccalrik, on windows it works, because either there is some "driver" that tunes power management, or because Windows in general does it more relaxed.09:09
calrikyeah there is a specific power management driver on windows09:10
calrikIntel AHCI is what handles it09:11
calrikIm suspecting the intel version of this is not 100% compatible with the 4.8 kernel09:12
yacccalrik, e.g. that's why you experience the sleep mode different depending upon the device: E.g. my case the Rapoo keyboard was waking up in a really bad way, eating key presses, while the Logitech keyboard manages to wake up without loosing any input.09:12
calrikhmm ok you gave me idea on how to fix it09:13
calrikwell I will roll back to 16.04 and try your script first09:14
karl_Hi! I can't find aa-logprof on my system (ubuntu desktop 16.10) and I can't figure out what package to install to get it, any ideas?09:30
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alkisgapparmor-utils09:31
karl_alkisg: that was it, thanks!09:32
alkisgnp09:32
Galvan123Hi all. I'm configuring an apache server and, after configuring the virtual host properly to a local site i'm developing, it renames the url from "laravel.localhost" to "www.laravel.localhost". I googled about laravel and mod_rewrite and got nothing.09:33
Galvan123Maybe is something in htaccess?09:33
Ben64.localhost ?09:34
Galvan123Yep, that's the url I give to my sites: "something.localhost" (it's hosted in my file system)09:34
Ben64that's weird09:34
Galvan123I need to find why apache renames it as www09:35
Ben64it's either in apache config or the actual pages though, check em09:35
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Guest86431hi )09:41
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costinramonahi10:02
frostieis there a way to enable intelquick sync encode in handbrake 1.0.3 in ubuntu mate x64?10:12
ducassefrostie: afaik the underlying software does not support that on linux yet, at least it didn't last i checked.10:17
frostieok i see thanks10:19
ecludHello, sometimes Ubuntu boots and sometimes it gets stuck on dev / sda clean, how do I fix this? Is it a GPU & CPU problem? I have AMD Radeon R5 Graphics10:23
backboxHi10:25
ponyridereclud: edit your fstab10:25
ecludponyrider what's fstab10:26
MonkeyDust!fstab10:26
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200709/page07.html and !Partitions10:26
ponyridereclud: /etc/fstab = FileSystemTABle10:26
ponyrideryes10:26
ponyriderhave the numbers 0 0 at the end10:27
ecludthanks! Gonna look it up and fix it :D10:27
olivier__hello10:28
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fishcookeri have to login irc via web because of the strange appearance of lubuntu http://imgur.com/a/4aYN010:36
tatertotsfishcooker: has your computer been like that since immediately after installation of ubuntu or has the symptom only recently begin to be observed?10:38
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tatertotsfishcooker: has your computer been like that since immediately after installation of ubuntu or has the symptom only recently began to be observed?10:39
fishcookerthis laptop uptime is about 5 days ... before uptime over 23 days... which log should i read  tatertots ?10:39
fishcookerit's not brand new10:40
tatertotsfishcooker: all of them10:40
OerHeksfishcooker, after resume from suspend?10:40
tatertotsfishcooker: i'll try to ask you a different way10:41
OerHeksand type of GPU might ben helpfull too.. seen a lot of intel with garbled fonts after resume/sleem10:41
tatertotsfishcooker: when did you first notice the symptom?10:42
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tatertotsfishcooker: hmm that doesn't compute either...10:42
fishcookeryes after i resume, OerHeks10:49
fishcookeryes this is laptop tatertots10:49
fishcookerbut i often resume without problem OerHeks10:49
fishcookerbut my firefox is ok10:49
fishcookerno problem with the http10:50
fishcookerthat's why i can chat to the webirc10:50
fishcookerbut not with my pidgin and my shell10:50
fishcookerno hope for that10:50
fishcookeri know logoff will solve this but the cons is i lost my session ... FYI, if i do switch using another user the interface is fine10:51
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OerHeksfishcooker, what gpu exactly?10:51
OerHeksif it is one of the newest intel ( 5000 and up), change sna to uxa, see if that helps, you need to writ this xorg.conf for it http://askubuntu.com/a/64083910:51
fishcookerwhich log should i check Oerheks10:51
OerHeksi dunno, what log.10:52
OerHekssome think it is only with Ubuntu family fonts10:52
fishcookerlet me check using another login... i will switch back to inform you my laptop is lenovo g40 intel i5 with amd radeon gpu10:53
ivandoes anyone know the crazy details of why apt autoremove doesn't remove everything not depended-on even with RecommendsImportant=false and SuggestsImportant=false?10:56
ivane.g. I have a server with a bunch of linux-tools* installed but the rdepends lead to nothing10:56
ivanI noticed in one case that there were virtual packages involved but I don't know about this case10:56
MonkeyDustivan  try this ... sudo apt install aptitude && sudo aptitude purge ~c10:59
ivanMonkeyDust: I think that purges packages that were removed but not purged11:01
ivanmy problem is with apt's kinda-busted autoremove algorithm11:02
ivanit's keeping more packages than I expect11:02
OerHeksivan,  so "RecommendsImportant=false and SuggestsImportant=false" are not to blame?11:04
ivanOerHeks: no that improves the behavior by removing more stuff11:05
ivananyway I think I figured it out11:05
ivan/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels has a APT::NeverAutoRemove that includes linux-tools-* :-)11:05
OerHeksgood find11:06
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OerHeks0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.11:20
OerHeksparadox: VS blokkeren G20-afspraak over vrijhandel11:21
* OerHeks blames the tab for wrong channel11:23
MonkeyDustyes, that language is completely alien to me11:24
tatertotsanyone have a good pot roast recipe?11:31
tatertotssorry wrong room11:31
OerHeksyum11:33
KeyboardNotFoundMy usb mouse doesn't work when hotplugged, and it works when I insert the usb before booting the linux. Any solution?11:33
ppfwhat's dmesg say when you plug it in?11:33
OerHekswired or wireless mouse?11:34
MonkeyDustKeyboardNotFound  in a terminal type this, then un/replug the mouse ... tail -f /var/log/syslog11:34
OerHekssudo rmmod usbhid &&sudo modprobe usbhid11:34
KeyboardNotFoundMonkeyDust: get message that it's recognized as usb mouse11:35
KeyboardNotFoundOerHeks: wireless, it doesnt work11:35
KeyboardNotFoundbut same happens with wired mouses too11:35
OerHeksKeyboardNotFound, then your usb controller isn't well supported11:36
OerHeksKeyboardNotFound, please answer ppf's question11:36
KeyboardNotFoundOerHeks: it used to work well before, after update it stopped working11:36
OerHekschange batteries11:36
KeyboardNotFoundI have this in /etc/X11/xorg http://pastebin.com/KRmNqr7911:37
KeyboardNotFoundmaybe it causes problems ?11:37
KeyboardNotFoundppf: http://pastebin.com/FVsfAEgr11:38
KeyboardNotFoundmade some changes to /etc/X11 settings, brb in 5 mins11:41
KiickiIs swap space really needed for someone that doesn't do much and has 16GB of RAM already? My understanding is that swap will be used when you have used up all your RAM which is not likely for my usage11:43
gnubuntuhow to replace aonther distro's / partition with ubuntu and keep /home11:44
OerHeksKiicki, with 16 you don't need swap, unless you want to use sleep/hybernate11:44
gnubuntuits good to have a swap file anyway11:45
KiickiSleep is something I will probably use11:45
gnubuntusleep is not hybernate11:45
KiickiI know11:45
KiickiHe mentioned both11:45
MonkeyDustgnubuntu  sounds like a bad idea ... /home contains config files that may not be compatible with ubuntu11:45
OerHeksgnubuntu,  is would not re-use a /home folder for an other distro11:45
gnubuntuwhat about /home/user/'s permissions, /home is on another partition11:46
ivanKiicki: I run everything without swap11:46
OerHeksbut if you want it, choose 'something else and unmark formatting of the /home/ partition, ubuntu does not seperate home and / standard11:46
dbaleHi all!I need help.11:46
MonkeyDustdbale  let's hear it, in one line11:47
OerHeksgnubuntu, .. "/home/user/'s permissions, /home is on another partition" .. funny install, you know the answer then11:47
gnubuntui see do not format, its selected by default11:47
dbaleI'm trying to hide grub at boot but unsuccesfull11:47
KiickiI noticed that if I install Ubuntu with the default option like "Just install automatically" it creates a 17173MB swap and the rest doesn't have a mount point. as in the rest is not in "/" or "/home" according to the partitions11:48
gnubuntufunny? its pretty standart, / and /home11:48
fishcookerOerHeks: AFAIK i has AMD radeon installed i see it on sticker attached to G40 but the lshw said the intel video applied https://gist.github.com/anonymous/735c1b4f54920690ad3a16308c341c4f11:48
fishcookersorry OerHeks i did sleep not suspend ... i usually do sleep not suspend, tatertots11:49
OerHeksgnubuntu, /home/user/'s permissions, /home is on another partition is *not* standard, so it is funny11:49
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KeyboardNotFoundit still doesn't work11:50
fishcookerthe question is why this happen only on my session but on another session the appearance just fine11:50
coreshi'm on ubuntu 16.04 64-bit how should i update my kernel to 4.10.4? theres no official ubuntu package for it yet but theres a bug related to my laptop thats fixed in a really recent version of the kernel11:51
OerHeksfishcooker, so the bug is inconsistent.11:51
KiickiWhat I find weird is that I cannot share my external HDD over network because of permission issues, but if I mount the external HDD to my username inside Home and share that entire username over network, I can access the external HDD over that and i can even write/read it. Weirdly enough I cannot write the "downloads" folder that is also inside the username11:51
Kiickiin Home. I would need to manually share that folder separate to allow that.11:51
gnubuntuhow is having /home/ not standart11:51
gnubuntuon another partition11:52
coresi'm not sure if the docs i'm looking at for running mainline kernels are still valid11:52
OerHeksgnubuntu, now you turning  around, seperate home settings and home data is not standard, what linux is that?11:52
gnubuntunot ubuntu obviously11:53
MonkeyDustgnubuntu  cat /etc/issue11:53
fishcookeryes ... but it happen when i do resume after many sleep, OerHeks ... any pointer of the inconsistent bug... or log should i inspect11:53
gnubuntuim just not familiar with the installer and wonder when how to keep /home partition and mount it as /home for ubuntu11:54
KiickiI just checked that you don't really need swap space if you are going to use sleep but only for hypernate, which I won't. I think I'm good without it. yes, I'm greedy about storage for this PC11:55
coreshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds thats what i'm using11:56
coresi guess its relatively recent11:56
OerHekscores that page is valid, use at your own risc11:57
coresOerHeks, my system has a serious bug. so i'm already at risk11:58
coresupdating should fix it, in theory, but it might introduce other problems that i'm willing to accept11:58
cores"if one is using select proprietary or out-of-tree modules (ex. vitualbox, nvidia, fglrx, bcmwl, etc.) unless there is an extra package available for the version you are testing, you will need to uninstall the module first"11:58
KiickiNow I understand the difference between "/" and "/home" that's pretty smart in case I want to upgrade or reinstall Linux. I don't lose personal files that is stored in Home. Pretty neat11:59
coresthat part confuses me, how to i find out if i'm using "out-of-tree" modules11:59
coresi'm pretty sure i'm using virtualbox modules12:00
minimeccores: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.10.4/12:00
coresbecause i remember installing that at one time12:00
coresminimec, thanks. looks like i hvae to uninstall my incompatible modules first...12:00
KiickiOerHeks lets say I only want one partition and don't want "/" and "/home"12:00
KiickiWould I make that partition "/" or "/home"?12:00
OerHekscores,  maybe kernel 4.8 fixes your issue? easy to install, and supported > http://askubuntu.com/a/88505612:01
OerHeksKiicki, that saves a few bytes, not worth the trouble12:02
KiickiI know, but just asking. I wold make that "/" right? Not home?12:02
OerHeksKiicki, yes12:02
KiickiThanks. I will give the "/" 20GB. Should be more than enough and rest in home.12:03
KiickiMaybe I will give 2GB for swap as I already have more than enough RAM for my usage12:03
coresOerHeks, occording to the mailing lists i'm looking at the issue wasn't fixed until last month12:04
MonkeyDustKiicki  tip: if you have enough space, keep some space (partition) empty, for emergency or backup purposes or so12:04
KiickiDoes softwares you install get stored in root or home? Probably a silly question but if it's in root, I don't know if 20-30GB is that much tbh12:13
Kiickior does only Linux OS and updates get installed in Root?12:13
k1l_the software is stored in /, but the user configuration and the data is put into /home. 20Gb is more than enough. most desktops will use 7-10GB or such12:14
k1l_*for /12:14
MonkeyDustKiicki  typically in /usr/bin/12:14
KiickiThanks!12:15
anonymous_hi there12:21
OerHeks:-)12:21
anonymous_yaw12:21
anonymous_oer heks are you hacker12:22
k1l_anonymous_: no hacking here. this is the technical support for ubuntu.12:23
OerHeksanonymous_, hacking is beyond the scope of this ubuntu support channel12:23
anonymous_ah ok i was think is here hackers12:24
KiickiOk so I have made a root and a home partition. I'm about to install Ubuntu but do I need to click on a partition and then "install now" or does it make any difference? Should I click the root and install now or "/dev/sda" and then install or does it actually matter?12:25
OerHeksyou'll find no hacking cahnnels here on #freenode, change server12:25
gnubuntuyou should have /boot / and /home12:25
OerHeksKiicki, so you are doing manually what ubuntu does automaticly12:25
gnubuntuif possible12:26
gnubuntu/boot should be ext212:26
k1l_gnubuntu: no, /boot is not needed12:26
gnubuntuits preferapble12:26
anonymous_send me the server heks12:26
k1l_gnubuntu: no12:26
gnubuntuyes you dont need journaling12:26
k1l_gnubuntu: because the "/boot is full" issue is more annoying than anything else12:26
cfhowlettfalse!  ext2 has been deprecated for years!  are you deliberately spreading disinformation or what, gnubuntu12:26
Kiickiit actually doesn't do it automatically Oerheks. I have checked. what it does automatically is to make a swap and the rest is in root. actually the mount point doesn't say anything but I assume it's root as nothing isn't an option12:26
KiickiIt doesn't create a home partition in other words with automatic12:27
maneeshatrying to get help with this question -- posted on ask ubuntu with no responses: http://askubuntu.com/questions/893473/manage-keyboard-backlight-on-dual-boot-system12:27
OerHeks!partitioning | Kiicki  go read the guide first, it might clear things up12:27
ubottuKiicki  go read the guide first, it might clear things up: For help with partitioning a new install see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition | For partitioning programs, see !GParted (recommended) or !PartitionManager. Other partitioning topics include !fstab, !home, and !swap12:27
maneeshaI've tried a ton of things, no success12:27
maneeshaCan anyone help?12:27
alkisgKiicki: if you want manual partitioning, you have to select each partition and then click use as e.g. ext4 and mount to e.g. /12:27
Kiickialkisg the partitions is done actually. I'm about to hit "install now" but not sure if I should check one of the partition before I install12:28
Kiickior if it makes any difference12:28
alkisgKiicki: cyes, you need to click all of them12:28
k1l_Kiicki: check for what?12:28
alkisgClick e.g. sda1, select "use as ext4", and "mount to /", then click sda2, and select "use as ext4" and "mount to /home"12:29
alkisgNo need to click swap12:29
ppfwhy create an extra home partition anyways?12:29
KiickiLike do I need to click the root partition and then click install now or does it matter what I click before I hit install k1l_12:30
cfhowlettppf, makes life a bit easier come upgrade time.12:30
ppfcfhowlett: how so12:30
cfhowlettdata in /home is kept separate from the main / system, so should not be touched during install/upgrade12:30
k1l_Kiicki: "klick the partition"? what do you mean?  if you make the manual install then yes, you need to make sure you set the partitions to be "mounted as ...." before you hit isntall12:31
anonymous_guys can you hemp me i have problem in kali linux 2016.212:31
alkisgIt's really good if you dual/triple boot; and it's sometimes a bit better if / gets corrupted; but ubiquity is smart enough nowadays to not erase it on upgrades/reinstallations, so it's not a big deal to have a separate /home or not12:31
cfhowlettanonymous_, no.  kali has their own support channels and is not supported here at all.12:31
cfhowlett!kali12:31
ubottuUbuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)12:31
ppfcfhowlett: i'm hoping upgrade/install doesn't touch /home at all12:31
OerHeksanonymous_, hacking is beyond the scope of this ubuntu support channel, no kali questions are answered here12:31
cfhowlettppf, then you might want to set a manual /home12:31
gnubuntucould you please link me to read ext2 is depricated12:31
Kiickik1l_ http://imgur.com/a/tx2Ea12:31
KiickiEverything is setup but do I need to click on one of the partitions on the left before I hit install. I wouldn't want to install the OS in the wrong partition12:31
ppfcfhowlett: why?12:32
alkisgKiicki: you've already selected the mount points, go ahead and click install12:32
k1l_Kiicki: so what do you want to check there?12:32
alkisgKiicki: eeeh you have only 10 gb for root12:32
ppfcfhowlett: not assuming the installer/upgrade is severly broken, it won't touch anyhing in /home12:33
anonymous_i have problem of copie the files from the windows to kali linux12:33
alkisgKiicki: better increase that now, otherwise it'll be more diffiule later...12:33
k1l_Kiicki: and i would make / more then 10GB. i thought you had it with 20gb?12:33
ppfif you're worried about that, snapshot your FS right before12:33
alkisg*difficult12:33
k1l_anonymous_: only ubuntu talk here. ask the kali guys for their OS12:33
cfhowlettanonymous_, we - do - not - support - kali.  go to the kali channels.12:33
OerHeksbye anonymous_12:34
anonymous_what should i do12:34
cfhowlett!kali > anonymous_ read12:34
ubottuanonymous_, please see my private message12:34
MonkeyDustanonymous_  type  /part ... then join the kali channel12:34
gnubuntukinda rude famm :/12:35
tozengnubuntu: what about?12:36
gnubuntuis april 2021 eol for i38612:38
anonymous_how is ubottu12:38
OerHeksgnubuntu, maybe, no news about that12:39
tuxianoHi, I want change in the shotwell database (sqlite) the location where my pictures are stored. Unfortunately I am not an sql expert and my sql command is not working at all ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/24208008/12:40
OerHekstuxiano, if you find no answer here, or in #ubuntu-server, there is a #sqlite channel here on #freenode too12:45
ppftuxiano: i don't think you can use wildcards in replace()12:49
ClaudioCiao a tutti12:49
MonkeyDust!it12:50
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)12:50
daniljoin #ubuntu-ru12:50
daniljoin #ubuntu_ru12:50
k1l_danil: /join #channelname12:51
vaikoldanil, if you are trying to join. add a slash /12:52
danilthanks.12:52
gnubuntu!ru12:53
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.12:53
tuxianoOerHeks & ppf: thank you12:54
Kiickik1l_ I changed my mind but i can go with 20GB. what I meant by "checking" is that, do I need to select one of the partitions on the left before I click install now? Like, to I need to at least mark them so it gets installed in the right partition?12:55
KiickiWhat if I click once on the Home partition and then click install now, will it install in home partition?12:55
Kiickior will it still go in root? does it matter12:56
k1l_Kiicki: no, that is what the "mount as" part is for12:56
Kiickiaah, so it doesn't matter. Thanks. I felt like i was talking Chinese : p12:56
sambeethello12:57
Kiickibut yeah, installing Ubuntu automatically is not the same as I do now even though my setup is kinda basic. What automatic did in my setup was to create a swap space of 17173 MB and the rest didn't have a mount point. At least it didn't say but I assume it's in root.12:58
KiickiLike the mount point was just empty12:59
alkisgKiicki: I had replied to you 3 times; it felt like I was ignored :)12:59
k1l_Kiicki: tha automatic install did the same, but since its automatic you didnt notice.12:59
Kiickiaah, sorry. I was gone for 10-15 min too so you might have replied then. sorry12:59
alkisgNo, it was when you were still talking :)12:59
alkisgAnyways13:00
Kiickiafter I installed with automatic I went back to check the disks. it said what I said13:00
Kiickiswap and the rest no moint point. at least no home13:00
Kiickionly 2 partitions13:00
hmz365BIOS does not ban hard drive option, how do I get banned in linuxo system hard drive?13:00
vaikolautomatic install won't create a home partition, right?13:01
alkisgRight13:02
alkisgOne primary /, and one logical swap13:02
alkisg(and I've no idea why it creates a logical swap instead of primary13:02
k1l_hmz365: what do you mean "ban harddrive"?13:02
vaikolalkisg, thanks for the info..13:02
alkisgnp13:03
DreamanKiicki  system is good free radeon driver or13:03
KiickiThat's what I been trying to say. it does not create a home partition so even this basic partition I use is not the same as automatic installing13:03
alkisgKiicki: yes, I already replied to you on that too :13:03
* alkisg feels like a ghost... :)13:03
k1l_Kiicki: is there a support issue still?13:04
Kiickinah, we are all good. Thanks you guys < 313:04
tatertotswhat just happened?13:04
Kiickiand sorry again akisg. I'm still on my coffee13:04
Kiickialkisg*13:04
alkisgnp; /me goes to make a coffee too...13:04
vaikoltatertots, Rock and roll legend Chuck Berry dies aged 90  -_-13:06
hamdjanhi13:07
hamdjanwill this work for creating a ubuntu live usb? `isohybrid path.to.iso; dd if=path.to.iso of=/dev/sdX`13:07
hamdjani want to install ubuntu lts in uefi mode13:07
OerHekshamdjan, just make the usb installer the regular way, it is UEFI compatible13:08
OerHeks!usb13:08
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent13:08
OerHeks!uefi13:08
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI13:08
k1l_hamdjan: ubuntu isos are already hybrid isos. you can just dd them onto the usb13:09
hamdjangood to know, thanks!13:09
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mprtest13:39
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jddkmi'm using 16.04 and for some time my gtk3 apps look very broken13:42
OerHeksjddkm, screenshot?13:42
jddkmthey have transparent titlebars and all menus and buttons are rammed together13:42
OerHeksmaybe it is a theme issue, who can tell ..13:43
pooUserHi people! Sometimes my internet speed goes terribly slow (only in my pc with integrated wifi Centrino Wireless-N 100, tried also usb wifi). sudo service network-manager restart looks to fix the problem. Does anyone know if is a NM known problem with wifi or maybe something else is wrong?13:43
* OerHeks disregards poo- and crap- names13:44
jddkmmaybe, but how can I fix that? it is barely usable13:45
OerHeksjddkm, screenshot can be helpfull, and theme name used13:46
OerHeksnobody can answer on such sparse inforeally13:46
jddkmi don't know what theme is used13:46
jddkmwhere can i paste the screenshot?13:47
OerHekssystemsettings > sppearance > theme .. for unity that is13:47
jddkmit's Ambiance13:48
OerHeksimgur.com is fine13:48
jddkmhttp://savepic.ru/13270531.png13:49
jddkmthat's how Files app look13:49
jddkmevery control has no border, only text13:51
BluesKajHiyas all13:51
alkisgHey BluesKaj13:51
BluesKajHi alkisg13:52
jddkmonly Ambiance and Radiance are affected it seems13:53
dieterdxubuntu 16.04 - qemu arm-i386  libc bug  - http://pastebin.com/CmMdFrGr13:53
OerHeksjddkm, pretty small example, maybe it is the font used ? further more unity-tweak tool has some options with fonts anti aliassing13:53
jddkmnot a font13:54
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michael_mbphi all, I find ifconfig reporting interface enp0s31f6 but this is missing in /etc/network/interfaces14:13
michael_mbpin any case, I can't seem to do ifup/down enp0s31f614:13
michael_mbpbut that interface is connected right now and has the right IP thanks to my local DHCP server.14:13
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muriokimgk14:19
muriokihey guys14:19
jddkmi have reinstalled light-themes, but they are still broken14:31
bekksjddkm: Define "broken" in that context please.14:31
bekksWhat are you trying to do, what do you expect to happen, what happens instead - and which Ubuntu version are you using?14:32
jddkm16.04, it's compteley broken, the controls have no borders, gnome apps have transparent titlebars14:33
zacaola14:36
alkisgmichael_mbp: if you're using network-manager, then it's normal that interfaces don't appear in /etc/network/interfaces14:36
michael_mbpalkisg: ah!14:37
michael_mbpno worries, thanks.14:37
alkisgnp14:37
linociscohi all14:44
linociscohow to partition for fresh installation of ubuntu desktop 16.04.2?14:44
linociscodoes installer handle itself automatically?14:45
cfhowlettlinocisco, let ubuntu autopartition14:45
linociscoI will use only ubuntu14:45
linociscocfhowlett, btw, how can I see current partition scheme?14:45
cfhowlettgparted app will show you14:45
ginMonkeyDust: how do I change my lubuntu password?14:45
jddkmlinocisco: choose Custom option14:46
linociscojddkm, I am now with ubuntu which is too slow at boot and shutdown. so i decided to do fresh installation of ubuntu. I am confused with partitioning. I would like to run automatically  if innstaller creates also swap partition14:47
ginhow do I change password. Password I use to login and everything else14:48
OerHeksgin, go into keys & passwords, but you need your password to change it14:49
OerHekslinocisco, just like your last time, it will do all automaticly, or see !partitioning for details how to do a custom layout14:49
OerHeks!partitioning14:49
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition | For partitioning programs, see !GParted (recommended) or !PartitionManager. Other partitioning topics include !fstab, !home, and !swap14:49
ginOerHeks: thank you very much. Goodbye14:50
linociscoOerHeks, my question is that if i use automatic partitioning, will installer create swap partition also?14:50
OerHekslinocisco, yes14:51
OerHekslike the last time you installed ubuntu, why would that change?14:51
linociscoOerHeks, I dont remember14:52
linociscoOerHeks, sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL show only sda1 vfat     512M /boot/efi     and └─sda2 ext4   461.4G /14:53
OerHekslinocisco, jus tplugin the usb ( insert dvd)  and choose from the installer replace14:53
dieterdlinocisco: booting or shut down could be slow by some of last updates on bios or uefi. my lenovo yoga showed that.14:53
linociscodieterd, how did you fix it? any luck?14:54
OerHeksand what is slow?14:55
linociscoOerHeks, shutting down or reboot is so slow like 8-10 mins14:55
OerHekshdd or ssd or nvme14:55
linociscoOerHeks, HDD14:55
linociscoOerHeks, Dell Insprion 3443, SATA HDD, 500 GB14:55
dieterdlinocisco: there was no fix, because booting of an non windows system got some extra seconds for "thinking".14:55
linociscodieterd, ok thanks.14:56
OerHekshmm hd graphics 5500 ? try 16.1014:57
linociscoOerHeks, how to check graphics?14:57
OerHeksall models Dell Insprion 3443 have intel 550014:57
OerHekscheck the website? or systemsettings > details14:58
dieterdlinocisco: but that was not so much like yours. I talk about additional 10s where nothing happens.14:58
linociscoOerHeks, GeForce 840M/PCIe/SSE214:58
dieterdlinosco: you should start with noquiet (delete quiet and splash) to see where it takes so long.14:59
dieterdin grub menu15:00
linociscodieterd, where grub2.conf?15:00
jddkm16.04, the ambiance/radiance themes are compteley broken, the controls have no borders, gnome apps have transparent titlebars -- any way to fix?15:01
dieterdat grub menu press "e" edit it and with f10 grub boots.15:02
OerHeksjddkm, maybe 'reset theme' will do any good?15:02
OerHeksjddkm, and with your small picture, i cannot make anything out of it, no border and such15:03
jddkmOerHeks: what's that?15:03
linociscodieterd, thanks. let me try15:03
dieterdlinosco: so you need not to change grub.config.15:03
OerHeksjddkm, systemsettings > appearance, like i told you before15:03
jddkmOerHeks: there is no reset button15:05
OerHeksor unity-tweak, that tool got more options15:06
um87I'm deploying a Django application on Ubuntu and Gunicorn uses a file called gunicorn.socket - does anyone know how these .socket files are created?15:07
alkisgdieterd: what does noquiet do? I can't find it anywhere in the code...15:07
OerHeksalkisg, he means delete quiet15:08
alkisgI know about removing "quiet", but I wasn't aware anything checked for "noquiet"...15:08
odroidhi all15:11
linociscodieterd, hi. reboot and shutdown is really slower15:12
dieterdalksig: deleting quiet is common. many you can invert with "no", and when not valid it will continue like quiet was deleted.15:12
linociscodieterd, booting is not so slow 1 min . it is ok. btw, i can't get into grub menu with F1015:12
Mr_QueueHow can I enable the touchpad while typing in 16.10? It seems someone decided the default and only option is to have it disabled. This doesn't work well for games like minecraft.15:12
dieterdlinocisco: it's only "e" for edit.  that was not for fast booting, that was only to see the text window.15:14
hellomorning15:15
helloanyone can help me with http://paste.ubuntu.com/24208913/ ?15:15
dieterdlinocisco: sometimes this text helps to find where it takes so long.15:15
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OerHeks!info php-json15:16
ubottuphp-json (source: php-defaults (44)): JSON module for PHP [default]. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:7.0+44 (yakkety), package size 1 kB, installed size 11 kB15:16
OerHekshello ^15:16
OerHeks!find json15:17
ubottuFound: gir1.2-json-1.0, libdbusmenu-jsonloader-dev, libdbusmenu-jsonloader4, libjson-c-dev, libjson-c-doc, libjson-c3, libjson-glib-1.0-0, libjson-glib-1.0-common, libjson-glib-dev, libjson-glib-doc (and 179 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=json&searchon=names&suite=yakkety&section=all15:17
OerHeksthere are more packages, but i assume php-json ?15:17
hellolet me try install all of them above15:17
dieterdhello: or use apt-cache search json15:17
helloit is for a tcl from an eggdrop15:17
linociscodieterd, I can't even see grab menu. just ubntu logo and ......15:18
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OerHeks!find  json.3tcl15:19
ubottuFile json.3tcl found in tcllib15:19
hellodieterd http://paste.ubuntu.com/24208955/15:20
hellook15:21
hellonow "package require tls"15:21
hello:p15:21
jddkma larger picture: http://imgur.com/a/SFpwv15:22
hellohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24208988/ i got next15:23
thereyougoanyone is here ?15:27
alkisg!ask15:27
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:27
bekksthereyougo: according to "/names", yes.15:27
thereyougowhat I use screen, I can press "Ctrl-a [" to be able to scroll the history, now I can press "Ctrl-e" to scroll down, but to scroll up I press "Ctrl-p" and it first moves cursor to the top and only when it reaches the top it scrolls up, is there key to scroll without moving cursor ?15:28
bekksthereyougo: No.15:28
dieterdhello: you can try apt-get install for every package. if tells no installation candidate look apt-cache show will tell you which package will contain this.15:28
nocturnallybeep wont output anything from PC speaker .. ubuntu 12.04 on a atom netbook15:29
helloi've got it tcl-tls15:29
hello:D15:29
alkisgthereyougo: page up? :)15:29
thereyougobekks: how can you be so certain ?15:30
bekksthereyougo: because thats how scrolling in screen works :)15:31
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Mr_QueueHow can I enable the touchpad while typing in 16.10? It seems someone decided the default and only option is to have it disabled. This doesn't work well for games like minecraft.15:41
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lernerwhat should I use to direct all traffic through a proxy? I edited environment variables and if I apt update from the shell it uses he proxy, but if I update ubuntu from the gui it downloads without proxy15:45
SimonNLMr_Queue: system settings, mouse and touchpad.15:45
EriC^^lerner: did you add a proxy in settings > network?15:50
Mr_QueueSimonNL: You'd think so, but someone decided to remove it from there.15:51
wiltonoi15:59
MonkeyDustpolloi16:00
ZeZuIf I have an active vpn ( up in ifconfig ),  how can I use it ?16:01
ZeZuIE:  route   or  have something bind to it's IP address ?16:01
ppfZeZu: your vpn client usually adds the according routes for you16:01
ppfotherwise you need to do that manually16:01
lahgersdaas..16:03
ChadTaljaardtHey guys can someone help e16:03
ChadTaljaardtme *16:04
ChadTaljaardtim trying to use NPM, i do npm install xxxxxxx and it says it cant find node16:04
ChadTaljaardtbut if i do nodejs --version it shows the version16:04
chocopuffChadTaljaardt: share your errors verbatim16:06
ChadTaljaardtchocopuff https://cl.ly/1K2z1Y1e2U3U16:07
chocopuffChadTaljaardt: hmm, thats odd16:09
ChadTaljaardtyeah :/16:09
chocopuffit does look like you have nodejs installed16:09
ChadTaljaardtyeah if i type which nodejs it returns the correct folder16:10
ChadTaljaardthere : /usr/bin/nodejs/16:10
chocopuffahh here, wait, I'm not familiar with nodejs, but this might help16:11
chocopuffhttps://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager16:11
chocopuffjump to the deb/*buntu section16:12
chocopuffIt mentions a legacy package needed, though I can't guarantee entirely that this is what you need16:12
ChadTaljaardti just need nodejs hahah16:13
renn0xtk9I got an error "QtQuick.Controls" version 2.1 not installed16:13
ChadTaljaardtmaybe if i make a sym link from node to nodejs16:13
renn0xtk9anyone knows which lib I should intsall ?16:13
chocopuffChadTaljaardt: yeah, it looks like thats what you need, just not sure what specifically you need to symlink16:14
chocopuffsorry, can't help much beyond that16:14
SimonNLMr_Queue: I'm using a derivative I didn't notice I was replying in this channel16:14
ervai don't see wifi symbol why16:31
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chocopufferva: re-enable it in the settigns16:33
ervausually wifi symbol is on top of the screen but i don't see it how to get it back16:33
ervaok16:33
hh2010if i delete a UFW rule, does it automatically block that port?16:35
docmurFor some odd reason Chrome is displaying my website code, html and php instead of rendering it, but firefox renders everything properly.  What would cause this?16:35
chocopuffdocmur: is this for your website only? or are you talking about web browsing in general16:35
docmurmy website, and the server is setup as a lamp server, with php and mysql running16:36
skinuxThis may be really dumb, but anyone know of a software package that will measure internet data usage and allow me to see how much I've used as time goes by?16:36
ducasseskinux: vnstat16:37
docmurWhen I run php index.html on the command line, it's outputting the right information16:38
docmur:S16:38
ervawifi icon is still missing16:42
ervamy wifi icon is missing someone help me  plz16:43
skinuxAlso, I installed MATE, I get MATE login screen, but the desktop that loads up is Unity. How do I tell it to load the MATE DE?16:43
sliddisI have  a hp zbook g2 14". it has two gpu's. if I enable hybrid graphics, I get no external display when laptop is docket. if I disable hybrid graphics in bios, both displays work. how can I have hybrid graphics enabled and have both working?16:44
ervawifi icon is still missing16:46
ioriadocmur, does it works on ff ?16:46
sliddiserva: try restarting nm-applet16:46
docmuryes16:46
ioriadocmur, try to clean the chrome cache16:46
sliddiserva: sudo service network-manager restart16:46
ervai'll try sliddis16:47
jddkm16.04, the ambiance/radiance themes are compteley broken, the controls have no borders, gnome apps have transparent titlebars -- any way to fix?16:51
ervais there any suggestions for missig wifi icon16:51
ioriaerva, what happens if you run from terminal   : nm-applet16:52
mguyskinux: which icon is showing by the session type16:52
ervacan you type me all the code16:52
ervai am a beginner16:53
bekkserva: that was all the code already.16:53
ioriaerva, nm-applet16:53
ioriaerva,  just run it16:53
ervaThe program 'nm-applet' can be found in the following packages:16:54
erva * network-manager-gnome16:54
erva * mythbuntu-diskless-client16:54
ervaTry: sudo apt install <selected package>16:54
bekkserva: So install it.16:54
ioriaerva,  yes, and plase paste on paste.ubuntu.com the output of     dpkg -l | grep network-16:55
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posIn Xenial, I have no HDMI sound output in Settings->Sound. Booting up Debian Jessie and it is there17:03
Saturn2888Hi! I upgraded from 14.04.x to 16.04.2 today. I can no longer startup mysql. I assume this is because 5.7 isn't compatible with Kernel 4.4.0. My other server has a similar build and for some reason it's on 3.13; but on it, mysql works also on Ubuntu 16.04.2. Do you know why it won't start for me?17:04
bekksSaturn2888: Your assumption is wrong. Mysql 5.7 doesnt care about your kernel version at all.17:04
mguySaturn2888: you must be getting an error message of some sort17:04
Saturn2888Correct:  2018 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/mysqld (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)17:06
bekksSaturn2888: So take a look at the mysql error log then.17:06
mguySaturn2888:  https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/starting-server-troubleshooting.html17:06
mguySaturn2888: I'm going to guess it's a line in your mysqld config file, maybe a path changed or something17:10
ioriaSaturn2888, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#MySQL_5.717:10
Saturn2888Looks like I might've found it: ```Can't start server: UNIX Socket : Permission denied```17:12
Saturn2888The docs for 5.7 show some directories which don't apply to Ubuntu17:12
mguyI'd then guess either a mysqlserver is already running or you don't have permission to start the server on a socket < 102417:13
konradosMorning, - the way to find whether a package is available is to enter apt-cache search something, right? If so, then why apt-cache search inkskape brings me nothing, that's impossible...17:14
mguykonrados: inkscape17:14
konradossec...17:14
konradosmguy - thank you!17:16
Darkelarioushi, I just came back from a stroll on askubuntu and others, I decided to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 with my Amd card, which obviously broke my fglrx/catalyst. Everything, including gaming/3d seems to work fine, except that the color intensity is so screwed up that I get an instant headache17:16
mguykonrados: you can search by description not just name: apt-cache search vector | grep drawing17:16
Darkelariousso i tried xgamma, which has an effect, except for that the brightness/contrast/saturation are so painfully different. Where do I start in fixing/finetuning that?17:17
konradosmguy - thanks again!17:17
mabynogyhello17:17
Darkelarioushi17:17
Saturn2888I tried logging in as root also; still can't start mysql. Nothing else was on 3306, but I don't know how to check the socket. I didn't see a .sock file17:18
R2AMODarkelarious is an AMD Video hardware stable for long uptime ?17:21
Darkelariousi had no problems in 14.04 for multiple weeks uptime17:21
Darkelariousi just upgraded to 16.04 today, with other problems, so can't say for 16.0417:22
ioriaSaturn2888, do you have a /etc/mysql/my.cnf.migrated file  ?17:22
Saturn2888yep17:22
R2AMO10x for info.17:22
Darkelariousnp17:22
Darkelariousadditional: i have a TAHITI card, r9 280 vapor-x17:23
ioriaSaturn2888, as written in the release notes "Some configuration directives have been changed or deprecated, so if you are upgrading from a previously customized configuration then you will need to update your customization appropriately"17:23
Saturn2888Strange my other server didn't have this issue when it upgraded.17:24
DarkelariousSaturn2888: i experienced that luck is also a factor17:24
Saturn2888:p17:24
mguySaturn2888: How much data is it? Is it just a wordpress install or like 2TB of data?17:25
mguySaturn2888: I'd just install  a new server, migrate all your data over, then switch em17:25
Saturn2888how do you access the DB files directly?17:25
ervahow to open cryptkeeper from terminal17:27
bekksSaturn2888: you cant.17:27
bekksSaturn2888: Setup a new server, and import your latest backup.17:27
Saturn2888Yeah, then I have to get this working. It's got game stats for a game I have on Steam. I haven't done a backup in a while. Completely forgot to back it up before I upgraded since I did a number of web servers at the same time.17:28
Darkelariouserva: I don't know cryptkeeper, but usually a command like "man cryptkeeper" may show you the manual17:28
ervahow to open any application from terminal17:29
ervawhat is th command17:29
Darkelariousdo you have a terminal open?17:30
ervayes17:30
Darkelarioustry17:30
Darkelariousman cryptkeeper17:30
ervai tried17:30
Darkelariouswhat did it say?17:30
ervaNo manual entry for cryptkeeper17:31
Darkelariousthen cryptkeeper is not the name of the program17:31
ervabut i already installed it17:31
Oererv is is a tray applet, why do you want to access it on comandline?17:31
ervaand i have files the locked it via this app17:31
ervabecause this is so with linux ubuntu17:32
* Darkelarious is back in an hour17:32
ervawith other distro u can make normal search and find it17:33
Mike_Wenthi17:33
Oererva, just use the icon on your panel17:33
ervai used it it does not work unless someone help with command to open it17:34
Oererva,  good luck finding it .. i guess you never did it on comandline, it is an applet17:35
Mike_Wentwhich IRC server is the easiest to install and configure?17:36
Oerman cryptkeeper :  cryptkeeper doesn't support any command-line parameter.17:37
ervai did it17:39
ervai just wrote cryptkeeper without any command17:39
ervaoh god17:39
Jean_Claudeif it takes no command line parameter, why do you want to launch it with terminal ?17:41
ervacuz there is no other way to install and open cryptkeeper from ubuntu17:42
ervai tried many ways17:42
ervaonly terminal17:43
ervai was wrong17:44
ervai found it from searching panel17:45
ervabut before that it was not there17:45
ervaweird17:46
Jean_Claudegoogle saif you had to restart your session before it works17:46
Jean_Claudesaid17:46
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vmnewNTFS formatted external usb drive (usb only), worked yesterday and doesn't today. Mounts correctly and df shows that there is X used/available correctly but 'ls -la /mnt' showx 0 files18:04
vmnewI remounted now and I see '.Trash-1000' with some deleted items. WHAT is going on here?18:06
Oervmnew, look into 'disks' for smart info, but not all usb controllers pass-through smart info :-(18:11
vmnewOer: Disk is OK, 2 bad sectors (23° C / 73° F)  - Is this it?18:12
Oervmnew, jups18:13
vmnewOer: The 2 bad sectors can make the files not show up? Will fscking it do the trick?18:14
m0z1774http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/software-development-cancer.html18:15
m0z1774read it and weep18:15
Oervmnew, depends where, if they are in the mbr, you have a problem18:16
Oerm0z1774, please donn't spam, thanks18:16
m0z1774whos spamming?18:18
energizerhow can i open all images in my working directory?18:21
energizerspecifically all .png18:22
ervais there a good VPN APP  to linux ubuntu18:22
Oerxdg-open *.png18:22
vijuGuys18:23
ervai want to watch USA Netflix from germany18:23
energizerOer: unexpected argument [the second one]18:23
vijuHow do I create an ISO from files/folders on filesystem?18:23
vijuI am using 16.0418:23
Oer!vpn18:24
ubottuFor more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN18:24
vijuThis must be a bootable drive though18:24
vijubootable ISO, rather18:24
Oerviju, you want to make a bootable iso of your current system?18:24
vmnewOer: ntfsfix was clean - NTFS partition /dev/sda1 was processed successfully- Still the disk only shows the trash dir... Advice?18:24
Oervmnew, maybe the files are just deleted , do they appear in your trashcan?18:25
vijuOer: I have a copied a cd content I want to make that a bootable ISO18:25
PawelFHi all18:25
ioriaenergizer, for i in *.png; do xdg-open $i; done18:26
vijuBrasero gives me some kind of error that the file size is more than 2GB18:26
PawelFI'm looking for help with network troubleshooting, can anyone help please?18:26
vijuThat's why18:26
Oerviju, you could try cubic, never tried myself >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image18:26
energizerioria: thanks18:26
ioriaenergizer, ok18:27
vmnewOer: Nah, some files do appear in the trash but I did delete those from the drive. All other files seem to be disappeared18:27
BillyMichaelHas anyone ever had problems with linux and MSI motherboards?18:28
Oervmnew, sounds like they are affected by bad blocks18:28
k1l_BillyMichael: maybe yes, maybe no18:29
vmnewOer: Tried to ntfsix with bad blocks - Going to un-mark the bad clusters ($BadClus)... No bad clusters...OK  - seems ok....18:29
BillyMichaelk1l_: haha, what do you mean?18:29
k1l_BillyMichael: what do you mean? :)18:29
OerBillyMichael, ask your real question, msi makes 100s motherboards18:30
BillyMichaelI have tried installing ubuntu and fedora and have had so many problems18:30
PeanutHi - does anyone know how to enable X over network on 16.10? I've tried editing lightdm/xx-user.conf, /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc, but to no avail so far.18:30
k1l_BillyMichael: there are thousands of mainboards. so where is the idea in asking if someone with some other mainboard had issues? does it help you with your issue? where we dont know what the issue is at all18:30
BillyMichaelFedora just outright fails to install18:30
BillyMichaelMy keyboard and mouse fails to be recognised on boot18:30
BillyMichaelThe screen "loses focus" until i ctrl+alt_f1 and then ctrl_alt_f718:31
BillyMichaelThe screen "loses focus" until i ctrl+alt_f1 and then ctrl+alt+f7*18:31
ponyriderPeanut: x11vnc18:31
BillyMichaelThey are my ubuntu issues. and fedoras live USB just gives me "exit_boot() failed! efi_main() failed!"18:32
jm__hi18:32
k1l_BillyMichael: after standby/suspend you mean?18:32
PeanutThanks ponyrider - that might work, but how do I enable network access for my Xwindows?18:32
BillyMichaelk1l_: Nope, after a fresh start18:33
ponyriderPeanut: https://tecadmin.net/setup-x11vnc-server-on-ubuntu-linuxmint/#18:33
Peanutponyrider: Thanks, but I'm not looking to set up vncviewer, I'm trying to set up actual X.18:34
jm__is this a chatroom strictly for ubuntu related stuff? sorry, newbiew here18:34
k1l_BillyMichael: what does "dmesg" tell about that?18:34
Saturn2888Same issue as before. Still can't get mysql running. Even uninstalled it and switched to MariaDB, same issue18:34
BillyMichaelIll give you my typical scenario. I start my PC and ubuntu loads. The keyboard and mouse take maybe 1-2 minutes to respond and sometimes need reconnecting. I log in. Once logged in the PC will randomly lose focus of the screen which means i can no longer navigate. To rectify this i have to press ctrl+alt+f1 and then ctrl+alt+f718:34
Saturn2888how can I check why it's paying permission denied on creating the socket?18:34
ponyriderPeanut: why dont you just click the link18:35
jm__lol... so much for all the propaganda about linux friendly folks...18:35
jfciscohola18:35
Peanutponyrider: I did - and I know what vncviewer is, and what x11vncviewer is. Those are nice solutions, but not to my problem.18:35
ioriaBillyMichael, sudo dmidecode -t 218:35
ervamy wifi icon is missing when i type on terminal nm-applet it come back18:35
BillyMichaelk1l_: I'm not sure right now as i've uninstalled to try fedora but the issues are even worse (The live USB wont load at all. It gives the "exit_boot() failed! efi_main() failed!" error)18:36
ervabut it goes when close terminal18:36
BillyMichaelioria: what should i be looking for?18:37
ioriaerva, add to  Startup Applications18:37
ioriaBillyMichael,  it'll give us your MB model18:37
ervahow18:37
ponyriderPeanut: you are nuts18:37
EriC^^ponyrider: that's a little redundant isn't it18:38
PeanutThanks, ponyrider. I did not come here to be insulted.18:38
BillyMichaelioria: MSI Z97 Gaming 5 (MS-7917)18:38
OerBillyMichael, look for a bios update18:39
ponyriderx11vnc is a server not a viewer18:39
ioriaerva,  type Startup in dash -> Add and point the command box to /usr/bin/nm-applet18:39
BillyMichaelOer: ill give it a try.18:40
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ponyriderPeanut: so want x11 forwarding18:42
cesdoIs it very dangerous to compile wayland-protocols 1.4.1? Ubuntu 16.04 contains 1.1.2.18:42
Ubuntu_manhi all18:42
Peanutponyrider: No, also not X11 forwarding, that doesn't perform well in this scenario.18:42
cicerotullyHi, I know that this isn't an Elementary forum, but that one is really silent. I'm having some trouble getting the elementary installer to work, it says that when configuring apt to install additional data it runs into problems.18:43
ponyriderPeanut: ##@ seriously what do you want18:43
Ubuntu_mani wanted to know if its ok to use XFS file system for desktop usage?18:43
Peanutponyrider: To start an Xserver without the '-nolisten tcp' option.18:43
energizercicerotully: might also check ##linux18:43
PeanutMy existing TCP server.18:43
vmnewOer, still here? 'Last self-test completed successfully'18:43
Ubuntu_mancan anyone advise me as i am in the middle of a Installation?18:44
Ubuntu_manneed to decide18:44
wadieDoes anyone know of a good ShareX Ubuntu alternative ?18:44
KiickiHow do I disable keyring from Chrome? I tried to delete it in "Password and Keys" but the box shows anyhow. I'm not talking about just setting the password to nothing but actually disabling it from asking me again18:44
wadiean app to take screenshots and upload them directly18:44
cicerotullyenergizer, thank you18:45
ioriawadie, app, idk... but this should work http://paste.ubuntu.com/24210327/18:45
Bashing-omKiicki: Try: Close Chrome. Open the file manager, press ctrl+H or show hidden files from menu, go to .local/share/keyrings, move the content to some backup place. Then logout and log back in. Open Chrome, there will be a pop up asking you to set a keyring password, leave it blank, confirm, then it shouldn't bother you anymore. If everything works, you can delete the backup you saved earlier.18:46
ioriawadie, ho... you first need to take the pic...18:46
Ubuntu_manhollla18:46
ervaioria, i didn't really get it18:47
wadieioria yes take a screenshot of a specific area and it gets uploaded to imgut for example18:47
brainwashcicerotully: head over to #elementary18:47
ioriawadie,  ok... make a script that run scrot and pass the pic to the imgur script18:48
ponyriderPeanut: edit xserverrc18:48
Peanutponyrider: I already did that, removed the '-nolisten tcp", that doesn't make a difference.18:50
wadieioria, ok thanks!18:50
ponyrideryou need -listen tcp18:50
ioriawadie,  ok18:50
ervanm-applet make wifi icon appear but when i close terminal it vanished18:50
ponyriderPeanut: man 1 xserver18:51
Ubuntu_manhmm18:51
Ubuntu_manany file system specialisit here?18:51
Peanutponyrider: Restarted lightdm, no difference, it still shows as -nolisten tcp18:52
EriC^^Ubuntu_man: ask maybe somebody knows18:52
ervanm-applet make wifi icon appear but when i close terminal it vanished18:52
SimonNLerva: nm-applet &18:53
Ubuntu_man@eric^^ thats what i am trying to do18:53
ioriawadie, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24210386/18:54
ervaSimonNL: I Want to keep wifi icon18:54
EriC^^Ubuntu_man: oh, didn't see your initial question18:54
wadieioria, you went an extra mile for me. thanks a ton! I'll go from here <318:54
ioriawadie, oky18:55
KiickiBashing-om I just deleted the default keyrings once again as before and it seems like it's gone now. Which is good but also weird how the exact same thing works now and not before18:56
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Ubuntu_man#EriC^^i am thinking of using ZFS18:56
ponyriderPeanut: wow look... something about lightdm http://askubuntu.com/questions/34657/how-to-make-x-org-listen-to-remote-connections-on-port-600018:56
ducasseUbuntu_man: you know you can't use zfs for your root fs, right?18:57
Peanutponyrider: That's for Ubuntu 10.10. I've tried that already. I'm running 16.10, but have been unable to find a link that shows the solution to how this is done on 16.10.18:58
Ubuntu_manNo i am not aware about it? please give your views on using Btrfs18:58
ducasseUbuntu_man: views?18:58
Oer!btrfs18:59
ubottuBtrfs is a filesystem available for Ubuntu. It is not recommended by default, and should not be used for important data. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs18:59
Ubuntu_manis any one running Btrfs?18:59
Oerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS18:59
ponyriderPeanut: you enable xdmcp?19:00
Oerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/XFS also not recommended19:00
ducasseUbuntu_man: i am, but only for the root fs on my laptop + desktop, i don't use it for 'real' data. stick with ext4 unless you have a good reason not to.19:00
k1l_Ubuntu_man: what is the issue when the spcialists would be here?19:01
k1l_(that is not how irc channels work :/ )19:01
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Oerenough info to make a decission, i guess, Ubuntu_man19:02
Ubuntu_mani will go with EXT4 then19:02
k1l_if you dont know why you want another filesystem, ext4 is still a good filesystem19:03
nilsonmoin bin on19:03
Ubuntu_mani have mounted  256GB under / as mount point19:04
k1l_nilson: this is the english channel. for german you can /join #ubuntu-de19:04
Ubuntu_manwill then proceed for installation gentlemen19:04
Oer:-)19:04
nilsoni man ok19:05
Ubuntu_man??19:06
nilsonwatig tuing man19:07
chadwinGood afternoon everyone19:07
Ubuntu_mansee you on the otherside gentlemen19:07
Ubuntu_manGood afternoon chadwin19:07
nilsonjo gut i man is out19:07
nilsonnix los19:08
Saturn2888Anyone know why I'm getting this MySQL error when starting it after upgrading to 16.04? http://pastebin.com/8jexdD1h19:10
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remon1496So, i got a problem with Ubuntu using multiple screens using a Nvidia GTX960 on the latest drivers. Anyone else experienced this issue?19:17
remon149616.0419:17
bekks!ask | remon149619:18
ubotturemon1496: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:18
Bashing-omSaturn2888: Have you seen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#MySQL_5.7 ?19:18
Saturn2888Yeah. Was there  something special in here?19:18
galghi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu Gnome; however, if I boot from the stick, I only get a black screen; if I add "nouveau.modeset=0" to the boot option, still a black screen; with "nomodeset", it's stuck at "[OK] Started Network Manager Script Dispatcher Service." ; is there anything I could do to make it boot?19:18
remon1496ubottu: thank you, i will19:19
ubotturemon1496: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:19
Bashing-omSaturn2888: Many times you must re-adjust the config files when moving from upstart .19:19
ponyridergalg: try making the usb again19:20
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Saturn2888Bashing-om: I removed MySQL and installed MariaDB. It has its own config and that didn't fix it either.19:22
Saturn2888Same error on both19:22
bekksWhich error in particular?19:23
Saturn2888bekks: http://pastebin.com/8jexdD1h19:28
Saturn2888Looks like Apache's not working either. This might be a larger problem19:31
k1l_Saturn2888: as you can see in your paste, the important errormessages are cut off.19:32
Saturn2888How so?19:32
k1l_Saturn2888: "service mysql status | nc termbin.com 9999"19:32
k1l_Saturn2888: did you look at your paste and the errormessages once?19:32
Saturn2888http://termbin.com/4gbh19:32
Saturn2888k1l_: http://termbin.com/py81 <- also got this when starting Apache19:34
k1l_* The apache2 configtest failed.19:34
Saturn2888Looks like there's a syntax error in one of the files.19:34
Saturn2888Strange. Maybe it happened in the upgrade.19:34
k1l_Saturn2888: looks like your sentora software is not ready for php719:36
Saturn2888I didn't even know it was running. In fact, I swear I removed it a year ago19:36
Saturn2888Is there a way to point apache at the /etc/apache2 folder?19:38
bekksSaturn2888: Did you finally check the mysql logs?19:38
Saturn2888I had been checking them.19:38
Saturn2888http://termbin.com/czkr19:39
bekksSaturn2888: And what do they tell you about mysql not starting?19:39
Saturn2888usually it errors after this line "Server socket created on IP: '0.0.0.0'." and says it doesn't have permission to create the socket19:40
bekksSo check the permissions of the socket path, etc.19:40
bekksCan you pastebin that log, please?19:41
Saturn2888yeah19:41
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stan_man_canWhats the best way to install the official NVIDIA video card drivers?19:43
stan_man_canDwonload and install from their site?19:43
k1l_stan_man_can: ubuntu ships nvidia drivers19:43
Saturn2888bekks: http://pastebin.com/4JAE0ArH19:43
stan_man_cank1l_: so when i do a fresh 16.04.2 install it will come with the best drivers for gaming and what not? i don’t have to do anything else?19:44
k1l_stan_man_can: look at system-settings > software&update > last tab19:44
stan_man_cank1l_: or do i have to check that “install third party drivers” box while installing?19:44
bekksSaturn2888: Looks like you have total mess there. You are mixing mysql and mariadb, AND versions 5.6 and 5.719:45
k1l_stan_man_can: no, ubuntu is not allowed to install with the drivers. the user needs to install them "manually". but they are included in the ubuntu repos, so its easy to install19:45
Bashing-omstan_man_can: Proprietary nVidia drivers will be ofered in " Addition Drivers " .19:45
k1l_stan_man_can: i explained you exactly where to install the drivers19:45
stan_man_canthanks all19:45
Saturn2888bekks: I can go back to mysql and remove maria. Doesn't matter so long as it works. I switched to Maria today to see if that'd fix my issue w/ MySQL not starting19:45
stan_man_cank1l_: just wasn’t sure if they would be available there if i didn’dt check that box off19:45
stan_man_canit’s kinda ominous and doesn’t really give a recomendation if you should check it or not19:46
bekksSaturn2888: you have to remove both, all traces of them, and then install one of them again, cleanly.19:46
Saturn2888k19:46
bekksSaturn2888: The issue is: you are mixing mysql/mariadb and their versions.19:46
Saturn2888I swear I removed mysql-server before installing mariadb-server19:47
Saturn2888Are there more packages to remove?19:47
cymohello guys, i just ran a systemctl status check, and got a return that it is degraded with two units failed. I was wondering if you could help me figure out how to fix this19:47
theorem"units failed" ?19:48
bekksSaturn2888: sure. Remove all the mysql libs and client packages, as well as the mariadb packages, too.19:48
theoremcymo: if these are HDD< then you should swap the drives with good ones.19:49
cymohttps://hastebin.com/ugiqaboray.hs19:49
cymono this is on a ssd19:49
theoremthat paste does not show what's wrong19:50
ubuntu-matehy ist wer?19:50
bekks!de | ubuntu-mate19:50
ubottuubuntu-mate: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!19:50
cymoit doesn't? how do I get it to show?19:50
cymois the "state: degraded" even something I need do something about? everything is running fine as far as I can tell19:51
thrmowhat kernel version is 17.04 gonna use?19:51
k1l_thrmo: 4.1019:51
thrmoty k1l_19:51
k1l_thrmo: but the 4.10 will contain some backports and other packages19:52
Saturn2888bekks: I think I did it. How can I verify those are gone?19:52
bekksSaturn2888: By checking your installed packages?19:53
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Saturn2888"~# mysql -bash: /usr/bin/mysql: No such file or directory" Is that good enough?19:54
Saturn2888I don't know how to check what's installed and what isn't19:54
Saturn2888Found it. dpkg -l19:55
bekksSaturn2888: dpkg -l | grep mysql and dpkg -l | grep maria19:55
Saturn2888bekks: Yeah, did those. There are some showing up, but doing an apt-get remove doesn't work. Says they're not installed. Things like mysql-common, mariadb-server-10.0 etc19:56
bekksSaturn2888: Define "doesnt work".19:57
akash__+zi19:57
bekksSaturn2888: Pastebin the full command, along with its full output please.19:57
Saturn2888says they're not installed19:57
Saturn2888got it19:57
Saturn2888bekks: http://pastebin.com/rnBRimjc19:58
bekksSaturn2888: as can be seen those packages arent installed anymore, but their config files still exist. you need to purge those packages.19:58
Saturn2888bekks: ok, they're gone20:02
Saturn2888bekks: So I can install mysql or mariadb now right? Any recommendation?20:05
bekksSaturn2888: Personal preference :)20:05
Saturn2888bekks: I backed up my MySQL db (couldn't actually export it it because it wouldn't load), so I'll probably just go with MySQL again bc I'll have a better chance getting this to work.20:06
bekksSaturn2888: How did you back it up, when you were unable to start it?20:06
Saturn2888tar'd up all the files in one of the directories.20:07
Saturn2888It had all the tables and everything in some weird file normal.20:07
Saturn2888file format*20:07
bekksThen you have to install the exact same version you had before your crash.20:07
bekksWhich isnt possible, after you upgrade.20:08
Saturn2888Oh really? Why's that?20:08
bekksbecause those data files are depending on the database version being used.20:08
DawnTreader777Hello All, I wonder if any one can help a Ubuntu newbie running 10.04 LTS. I am trying to copy some files from the hard drive to my windows machine in preparation of installing the latest Ubuntu on the hard drive. I don't want to take chances with the data so I want to copy it to my windows machine.20:08
OerDawnTreader777, so what is the issue ?20:11
DawnTreader777the problem is that when I use the sharing options to give access it gives me an error20:11
OerDawnTreader777, ah, you cannot install the needed packages?20:11
DawnTreader777net usershare returned error 255: net usershare add: share name is already a valid system user name...20:11
Oeroh..20:12
DawnTreader777ok that was not the same error as last night...20:12
DawnTreader777I am adding characters to the share name20:12
DawnTreader777oh kay... now it doesn't give me an error20:12
stan_man_cansuper strange, same installation media behaves different on two computers20:14
DawnTreader777now I see the computer in the network on my windows machine, but I cannot access the share20:14
stan_man_canon one computer it just installs no problem, on my other computer it’s telling me that no root file system is defined and doesn’t auto partition my drive20:14
k1l_stan_man_can: so you checked manual install and didnt choose on partition for / ?20:15
stan_man_cank1l_: i didn’t have an option to select manual install20:15
Saturn2888bekks: same issue after installing MySQL 5.620:15
k1l_*manual partitioning20:16
Saturn2888dpkg is showing the right stuff though.20:16
stan_man_cank1l_: don’t have that either20:16
Oerstan_man_can, see https://superuser.com/questions/790342/cant-install-ubuntu-14-04-because-it-says-root-file-system-is-not-defined ( same for 16.04 )20:16
bekksSaturn2888: Show it to us too, in pastebins.20:16
Saturn2888bekks: and Apache won't start either :/. Man, just not my day.20:16
ioriaDawnTreader777, using a 10.04 samba version with an updated win machine ? idk it'll work20:18
stan_man_cank1l_: It goes from Welcome screen with the language select, “continue” takes you to the preparitng to install page where you can check off download updates while installing, and install third party software for graphics, then next page is installation t ype and it’s just the interface to define your own partitions,20:18
k1l_stan_man_can: what ubuntu is that exactly?20:18
stan_man_can16.04.220:18
DawnTreader777now last night when I was trying to get things to work there was an error telling me that samba wasn't running...20:18
stan_man_canwait maybe it’s not recognizing my hard drive give me a minute20:18
Saturn2888bekks: http://pastebin.com/X5MQq9Tu20:19
k1l_stan_man_can: you can start the "try ubuntu" and have a live desktop and you can start the installer app from there20:19
stan_man_canyeah that was it my bios didn’t recognize my hard drive20:19
DawnTreader777ok, try this another way, is there a command that would allow me to force copy everything in the home folder to a second hard drive that is partitioned NTFS?20:19
bekksSaturn2888: And did you have Mysql 5.6.16 installed before?20:19
ioriaDawnTreader777,  ps -A | grep smbd20:20
DawnTreader777I tried copying the 2 folders in the home folder to the NTFS drive20:20
Saturn2888I had a 5.6 version yes. Pretty sure about that. I was on the latest 14.04 until today.20:20
DawnTreader777but it crapped out after 100mb of the 306GB in the folder20:20
DawnTreader777ioria: I do that in the terminal right?20:21
ioriaDawnTreader777,  better... sudo /etc/init.d/smbd status20:21
DawnTreader777"Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service smbd status"20:23
ioriaDawnTreader777,  ok, do it20:24
ioriaDawnTreader777,  sudo service smbd status20:24
DawnTreader777"since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, you may also use the status(8) utility, e.g. status smbd..."20:24
DawnTreader777ok20:24
DawnTreader777smbd start/running, process 79920:25
ioriaDawnTreader777,  are you really on 10.04 ?20:25
DawnTreader777so you figure that window10 and this version of Ubuntu are no compatible?20:25
DawnTreader777yes20:25
DawnTreader777this machine has been sitting for a while unused20:26
DawnTreader777is there a command that would allow me to force copy everything in the home folder to a second hard drive that is partitioned NTFS?20:26
ioriaDawnTreader777,   cat /etc/samba/smb.conf20:27
DawnTreader777ok... besides showing me the insides of the smb file, what does that do?20:28
ioriaDawnTreader777,   so, it's not another machine ? it's the same machine ?20:28
DawnTreader777I have placed a second hard drive in the machine to try to copy things of the Ubuntu drive20:28
ioriaDawnTreader777,   so, why do you need samba ?20:29
csulokhey guys :)20:31
DawnTreader777sorry I crashed...20:31
csulokis there anybody here who has kaby lake igp?20:31
bekks!ask | csulok20:32
ubottucsulok: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:32
ioriaDawnTreader777,   so, why do you need samba  if you can mount the 2° hd and copy the files over ?20:32
Saturn2888bekks: http://pastebin.com/X5MQq9Tu Logs20:33
DawnTreader777because it stopped copying after it did around 100mb of the 306GB that I need to move out20:33
csulokubottu ok, sry : so: my problem is that i have this G4560 7th gen pentium and using the igp with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS... but it crashes every 2-3 hours... is there any fix for it?20:33
ioriaDawnTreader777,   how did you format the 2° hd ?  and paste sudo parted -l20:34
bekksSaturn2888: See line 43. Your installation is horribly broken.20:34
k1l_DawnTreader777: you dont need samba if you copy from same disks in the same computer20:34
DawnTreader777i am having trouble getting the files out of this Ubuntu machine20:34
csulok!patience20:34
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:34
DawnTreader777i formatted the second drive on my windows machine20:34
shadaloomy apt-get update isn't connecting over ip620:34
shadaloois there a way to force update with ip420:35
ioriaDawnTreader777,   please, paste sudo parted -l20:35
DawnTreader777should i format the drive in Ubuntu and then copy over?20:35
k1l_shadaloo: yes20:35
ioriaDawnTreader777,   sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999920:35
DawnTreader777is that an L or i or 1?20:35
ioriaDawnTreader777,   elle20:36
k1l_shadaloo: sudo apt -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true update20:36
foodSurpriselets say i want to run a webserver20:37
foodSurprisewould the fastest configuration be to load the HD to ram20:37
shadalook1l_: not quite20:37
k1l_shadaloo: ?20:37
tilaioehi20:38
DawnTreader777oh20:38
DawnTreader777nice...20:38
shadalook1l_: i just tried that syntax and it gave me run options20:38
tilaioeis there a site, where I can do linux without installing it?20:38
shadalootilaioe: no20:38
shadalootilaioe: run the linux kernel20:38
k1l_tilaioe: you can make a ubuntu usb and test it20:38
bekkstilaioe: Download a live CD and give it a go.20:38
DawnTreader777ioria: it showed me the 2 drives and the partitions on each20:38
k1l_shadaloo: i dont understand you. please put all the output into a pastebin and show it here20:39
Bashing-omtilaioe: Desktop installers have the "try ubuntu" mode .20:39
ioriaDawnTreader777,   can you paste the url here ?20:39
DawnTreader777url?20:39
ioriaDawnTreader777,   sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999920:40
DawnTreader777i know what URL means, but that command did nothing...20:40
shadalook1l_: it's sudo apt-get, that syntax doesn't work with apt alone20:40
ioriaDawnTreader777,   paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com20:41
DawnTreader777seriously, that command, sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999, is doing nothing20:42
ioriaDawnTreader777,   ok, paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com then20:43
DawnTreader777which for the sudo parted -l ? or the sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999?20:44
ioriaDawnTreader777,   the first20:44
DawnTreader777http://paste.ubuntu.com/24211131/20:45
ioriaDawnTreader777,   ok,  it's mounted where ? under /mnt ?   paste 'mount' command20:46
DawnTreader777http://paste.ubuntu.com/24211148/20:47
tilaioetour.ubuntu.com I installed blender--but can't open it? why?20:48
ioriaDawnTreader777,   ls /media/Neven20:48
k1l_tilaioe: that is not going to work like you want.20:48
DawnTreader777yeah20:48
k1l_tilaioe: use a live-usb or live-dvd (and that still will be slow with blender)20:48
DawnTreader777it looks like a separate drive just like windows file explorer would show it...20:49
ioriaDawnTreader777,   your 2° is mounted under /media/Neven/something so you can  sudo rsync -avx /home/  /media/Neven/something20:50
DawnTreader777ah20:51
DawnTreader777does that something have to already exist or would it create the folder...20:52
ioriaDawnTreader777,   ls /media/Neven20:52
DawnTreader777ok, that looks like it is working...20:55
DawnTreader777there was one file or folder that it said something about permissions denied kind of thing...20:55
DawnTreader777but everything seems to be syncing...20:55
DawnTreader777and i spoke to soon20:56
DawnTreader777some files/attrs were not transferred (See previous errors) (Code 23) at main.c(1060) [sender=3.0.7]20:57
DawnTreader777i cant even go see what the error is because it is too far back in the screen lines buffer...20:58
bekksSo try again.20:58
bekksAnd you will them again.20:59
ioriaDawnTreader777,   yes, because on ntfs there are no permissions20:59
DawnTreader777sent 1684412178 bytes  received 84018 bytes  11821025.94 bytes/sec20:59
DawnTreader777total size is 305779400038  speedup is 181.5320:59
DawnTreader777oh20:59
DawnTreader777so20:59
DawnTreader777what do i do to fix this?20:59
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bekksDawnTreader777: To fix what?21:00
ioriaDawnTreader777,   what's the use of that backup ?21:00
DawnTreader777i am trying to get all the family pictures and music and stuff off that Ubuntu install21:00
bekksDawnTreader777: And which filesystem are you using on your backup drive?21:01
ioriaDawnTreader777,  so you don't need your home, just the media files21:01
ioriaDawnTreader777,  put them in one folder and copy to the 2° drive21:01
ioriaDawnTreader777,   cp -R   myfolder/*  /media/Neven/something21:05
DawnTreader777could it be crapping out because i used this with wine?21:05
ioriaDawnTreader777,   wine with what ?21:05
DawnTreader777on this Ubuntu machine...21:05
ioriaDawnTreader777,   id think so21:06
DawnTreader777yeah i remember now i had set up so that widnows XP folders like my documents and stuff were linked to folders like home/chris/ and so on...21:07
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OnTheLakehelp21:13
PipeItToDevNull That is descriptive21:15
ninjahI just installed Apache on Ubuntu 16.04. I'm trying to get it to display an xml file. So far all I get is a blank page. Is there something I need to do for Apache to display xml files?21:19
nudogewhat is the error ninjah?21:20
DawnTreader777i think it copied everything...21:20
DawnTreader777or corrected an error and now everything that wasn't showing in the copied folder is now showing...21:21
DawnTreader777going to verify21:21
ninjahno error21:23
ninjahjust a blank page21:23
ninjahI'm trying to take the xml file generated by an nmap scan and dump it into Apache so I can see it21:23
ninjahNo luck so far21:23
gigoplast__hi21:24
nudogeninjah: here is my setup21:25
nudogehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24211379/21:25
gigoplast__pls i need to find channel who discast bitcoin full node21:25
gigoplast__have problenm on my nodejs21:25
k1l_!alis | gigoplast__21:25
ubottugigoplast__: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"21:25
ninjahnudoge: Checking that out21:26
hiro_So, just tried to install Nvidia's CUDA drivers for my graphics card and something went very wrong. I got an error message that seemed to imply that some important kernal modules were missing. I rebooted my computer and immediately got hit by a "system is running in low-graphics mode" error. Now I can't get the desktop to load at all. I've tried to uninstall cuda and nvidia drivers and reinstall the desktop, but nothing seems to work. 21:26
gigoplast__freenode channel empty21:26
gigoplast__nodejs pls21:26
k1l_gigoplast__: use the alis bot like ubottu told you21:27
geirhagigoplast__: #Node.js21:28
gigoplast__thx21:28
hiro_Does anyone know how I could get my desktop back? Thx :)21:29
gigoplast__graphic pb21:29
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nudogehiro_: what is wrong with it?21:33
hiro_nudoge: I installed some cuda drivers and i think it wrecked some config. Now it only starts in "low-graphics mode", which means I can't access the desktop.21:38
nudogeewww,  did you try single-user/recovery mode and uninstall the drivers?21:39
Oerhiro_, did you install linux-headers-generic ?21:41
hiro_I can't get into recovery mode. I think I can get into a terminal again. I'll try to install linux-headers-generic21:43
Oerctrl alt F1, login, etc21:44
Oerctrl alt F7 to return to gui login21:44
hiro_(installing ...)21:46
OerI am not sure, maybe you do need a reboot after that ..21:47
hiro_one strange message: "unable to find ram disk that I know how to handle". gonna try a reboot ...21:48
Oermaybe you had to install headers before installing the cuda package?21:49
hiro_yeah, something is defnitely not right21:50
hiro_still not getting through to the desktop21:51
hiro_just get a blak screen21:51
ppfhiro_: reinstall the driver21:51
hiro_ppf: which one?21:52
ppfnvidia21:53
hiro_still getting the blank screen of death21:55
ppfyes, boot into recovery and reinstall the driver21:55
nudogehiro_: are the tty's alive?  try crtl+alt+f221:56
hiro_they are21:56
ppffair enough, then reinstall the driver in the running system21:57
hiro_can't find recovery mode, think it's some sort of dell base weirdness21:57
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ppfit's got nothing to do with the manufacturer21:57
nudogeI believe its hold shift during boot to bring up the grub menu21:57
ppfeither way, if your system is booting, fair enough21:57
hiro_installed the headers and nvidia-current but doesn't seem to work21:58
Ben64hiro_: what exactly did you do21:58
hiro_although I no longer get a warning about "low graphics mode"21:58
hiro_just a blank screen21:58
hiro_Ben64: I installed the cuda drivers for my nvidia GPU21:59
ppfcheck dmesg for errors21:59
ppfand paste those21:59
hiro_I must have missed some setup bc it complained about missing modules and since then II can't get to the desktop21:59
Bashing-omhiro_: nvidia-current is the 340 version driver, not likely the correct driver for your card .22:00
Bashing-om!info nvidia-current xenial22:00
ubottunvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-304): Transitional package for nvidia-current. In component restricted, is optional. Version 304.134-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 8 kB, installed size 19 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)22:00
Spodermen_sweghey guys, I've been trying to recover my data from an encrypted (k)ubuntu  partition, but nothing seems to work... what's the standard way to do this? I've tried using ecryptfs-recover-private but that doesn't seem to work at all.22:00
Ben64hiro_: that isn't very exact22:00
hiro_Bashing-om: I'm on the GeForce GT 750M22:00
Spodermen_swegAlso, would it be quicker to try reinstalling grub and trying to boot like that?22:01
hiro_Ben64: Sorry22:01
ppfSpodermen_sweg: how is the disk encryptet?22:02
ppfs,t,d22:02
DawnTreader777how do i do this:22:02
DawnTreader777'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot share path /media/Neven/chris as we are restricted to only sharing directories we own.22:02
DawnTreader777Ask the administrator to add the line "usershare owner only = false"22:02
DawnTreader777to the [global] section of the smb.conf to allow this.22:02
hiro_Ben64: I followed the instructions here: https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads for  x86 / ubuntu / 16.04 / .deb local22:03
DawnTreader777when i open the smb.conf it opens as readonly22:03
Spodermen_swegyou mean how did I encrypt it originally? I did it while installing kubuntu (the option that encrypts the home dir)22:03
hiro_Ben64: All the steps22:03
Spodermen_swegI was young and foolish back then ;'(22:04
hiro_Ben64: Then I rebooted my computer and I got the "low graphis mode error"22:04
Bashing-omhiro_: Uh huh, : http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us , Ya want the late(er) version driver . Try as ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Let the system choose what it thinks best from what it has to choose from .22:04
ppfSpodermen_sweg: why did  ecryptfs-recover-private not work for you?22:04
hiro_Bashing-om: thx, Ill give that a try22:05
Spodermen_swegppf: I tried it again now and it returned "find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied"...22:08
ppfusing sudo?22:08
Spodermen_swegyeah...does it matter that I'm using a live usb to do this?22:09
hiro_Bashing-om: "Warning: missing /lib/modules/4.4.0-38-generic"22:10
hiro_These look like the errors I got when I installed cuda22:10
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hiro_A few other related depmod errors too22:11
DawnTreader777"sudo rsync -avx" what does the -avx do?22:13
DawnTreader777https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync22:13
ppfDawnTreader777: man rsync22:13
Bashing-omhiro_: Looks like the kernels install(s) are broke . Got to fix that as a 1st priority . start: pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' .22:13
ppfSpodermen_sweg: is that a fatal error?22:13
ppfor does it continue afterwards?22:13
DawnTreader777i see some options there, but there is no "a" in the list22:13
Spodermen_swegppf: yea, there is no further output (however, it does not explicitly say there is an error)22:14
DawnTreader777and the rsync is still failing...22:14
DawnTreader777:(22:14
ppfDawnTreader777: -a is in there22:15
ppfit's short for -archive22:15
compdoc-a preserves the date and times, and permissions of the files22:16
hiro_Bashing-om: unfortunately pasting might be impossible bc all I've got on my other laptop is a tty shell - I can't get the output to a browser22:16
DawnTreader777oh22:17
ppfhiro_: pipe it into pastebin22:17
DawnTreader777there it is... duh22:17
hh2010if i delete a UFW rule, does it automatically block that port?22:18
ppf*pastebinit22:18
hh2010i asked earlier but may have missed the answer, sorry22:18
OerDawnTreader777, as you try to write to ntfs, -a is useless as it does not take permissions22:18
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DawnTreader777yeah i kinda wonder if that is the problem22:19
Bashing-omhiro_: Run in terminal : ' sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999"22:20
Bashing-om"sudo apt upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 'and pass the resulting link back here ,22:21
hiro_termbin.com/ybwx22:24
lernercan you help me with iftop?22:24
hiro_Bashing-om: termbin.com/k08022:24
Spodermen_sweghow difficult is it to reinstall grub onto a partition from a liveUSB?22:28
userro I love Ubuntu22:29
nudogeSpodermen_sweg: I used grub-install but I dont remember exactly how.22:30
userro do you?22:30
Spodermen_swegnudoge: did it give any problems? and if I stuff it up, will it prevent me from logging into windows?22:30
userro never mind :)22:31
nudogeSpodermen_sweg: It will22:32
Spodermen_swegwill I still be able to boot into windows via bios?22:32
nudogeYou might want to export the backup to another device that is not housing your primary boot record22:32
Bashing-omhiro_: So far so good . As the package manager advises; ' sudo apt autoremove ' does what ?22:32
hiro_Bashing-om: want me to termbin it?22:33
nudogeSpodermen_sweg: grub-install will overwrite the bootloader; I dont recommend this; I would export want I need to mount on to a new disk.22:33
CrazyLikeAFoxSo, I'm trying to get AMD proprietary graphics up and running on xubuntu 16.04, but I can't seem to figure out how to launch the catalyst control center, or see if it even installed correctly22:33
Spodermen_swegnudoge: You mean I should backup all my windows files before doing anything stupid? XD22:33
k1l_CrazyLikeAFox: amd stopped making that22:33
Bashing-omhiro_: If there is a "situation" then yes . pastebin that too .22:33
nudogeSpodermen_sweg: nope,  Im saying you need to copy the kubuntu install to a new harddisk22:33
Spodermen_swegnudoge: I can't access the kubuntu /home though22:34
k1l_CrazyLikeAFox: since 16.04 you dont use fglrx. if you dont have a pretty new card you can only use the free drivers now22:34
CrazyLikeAFoxAhh, is there a similar tool around to tweak the gpu settings?22:34
yrayyray22:34
nudogeboot from live USB and you should be able to complete the transfer.22:34
nudogeit might even prompt for a password while in live usb22:34
CrazyLikeAFoxI do have a pretty new machine22:35
Spodermen_swegim currently running a liveUSB antergos, but I can't access the encrypted kubuntu22:35
CrazyLikeAFoxBut not sure if I picked the right driver from AMD or if it's running correctly now22:35
k1l_CrazyLikeAFox: did you already manually install stuff?22:35
hiro_Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/v8jx22:35
nudogeSpodermen_sweg: but, didnt you say it was a kubuntu partition?  I would try a live kubuntu and live ubuntu session22:36
Oer!info driconfig22:36
ubottuPackage driconfig does not exist in yakkety22:36
Spodermen_swegnudoge: I did, but there was no difference22:36
Oer!info driconf22:36
ubottudriconf (source: driconf): DRI configuration applet. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-4 (yakkety), package size 81 kB, installed size 328 kB22:36
DawnTreader777man what a mess...22:37
nudoge:( can you still move the /home to a new device as a simple file transfer?22:37
DawnTreader777copying files should be the easiest operation on earth...22:37
Bashing-omhiro_: Again looks good . What shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?22:38
CrazyLikeAFoxMachine: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834294362 ; Driver I picked, and isntalled via AMD's instructions http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx22:38
CrazyLikeAFoxk1l_: yes22:38
Spodermen_swegnudoge:  all that appears in the /home dir when I mount it is a desktop link to encryptfs, but that doesn't even work properly, it just returns a link to an empty dir22:38
Spodermen_swegis it possible to copy the content of a partition without accessing the content ... ?22:38
nudogehmmm. can you dd the /dev/mountpoint over to a new device?22:40
Spodermen_swegoooo I didn't think of that22:40
CrazyLikeAFoxdpkg reports version 16.60-379184 of amdgpu-pro installed22:41
Spodermen_swegwould that help though? If I had a chunk of encrypted data sitting on my external?22:41
hiro_Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/qzeh22:41
Oeramdgpu <> amdgpu-pro22:41
nudogeyou would need to of a real path.  how big is the part and you can use dd over ssh22:42
nudogespecify*22:42
nudogejust remember that dd means disk-distroyer22:43
Bashing-omhiro_: That do say that the nVidia driver is installed ( in a hybrid graphics machine - Intel as the on-die GPU ) // What results when re-booting now ?22:43
Spodermen_sweghmm well that's a problem22:43
nudoge:/22:44
theoremhmm22:44
Spodermen_sweghmm I thought ecryptfs-recover-private would work easily22:44
nudogeMe too22:44
theoremany clues why when selecting a bluetooth option the sound settings would prevent me from using it ?22:44
Bashing-omhiro_: 2md thought ! what driver is installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia* ' .22:44
Bashing-om2nd*22:44
theoremeg:  I go and change the bluetooth headset mode , and the audio sink changes.22:45
hiro_Bashing-om: when I reboot I get: "The system is running in low-graphics mode, etc"22:45
CrazyLikeAFoxOer: Huh?22:45
DawnTreader777why would the drive show only 387mb of the 306GB that was copied to the drive...22:45
theoremDawnTreader777: because it's in another partition ?22:46
theoremhow are you viewing it ?22:46
DawnTreader777Ubuntu reports 306GB but my windows 10 shows only 387mb22:46
theoremwhat app?22:46
nudogehiro_: you could open the tty again and run 'dmesg'22:46
DawnTreader777but when i try to copy the folder it complains because the drive would be full22:46
DawnTreader777if i copy it and then try to paste it it gives me an unexpected error and talks about 154GB of free space22:47
OerCrazyLikeAFox, you already have amdgpu standard loaded22:47
Bashing-omhiro_: Same thought . what driver is currently installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia* ' ?22:47
joelwallisHello. I'm trying to install PHP 5.6 into a Ubuntu machine but it seems that it has multiple versions available and is not being able to install just one of them22:48
hiro_Cant get back to the tty's now22:48
DawnTreader777it is like the files are all there but somehow or for some reason windows isn't seeing them22:48
joelwallisHow can I specify which specific version I want to install?22:48
DawnTreader777i ran nirsoft's ntfslinksview to see if there were links... it showed nothing22:49
CrazyLikeAFoxEr, I installed over top of something else, and they're conflicting now?22:49
hiro_Bashing-om: lost the tty's, they won't open now. I just get the error popup and after that, a blank screen.22:51
Spodermen_swegok well it seems that I don't have a working bootloader, but grub terminal still shows up22:51
OerCrazyLikeAFox, amdgpu-pro does not bite, it is a binary which works on top of the open-source AMDGPU kernel driver. The driver provides OpenGL, OpenCL, Vulkan and VDPAU support.22:52
Spodermen_swegIf I install ubuntu on another partition, will the new bootloader play nice with the old stuff?22:52
hiro_Ah, got them back22:53
nudogehiro_: and dmesg might contain errors as well.22:53
CrazyLikeAFoxOer: Any suggestions for a program to change the gpu settings and power management?22:54
hiro_Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/x3aq22:54
CrazyLikeAFoxMy cpu sees to be acting weird too though, different programs are reporting different clockrates22:54
OerCrazyLikeAFox, try driconf22:55
CrazyLikeAFoxsomething reported earlier that one core was at 2700 and 3 at 2400, now it's saying the whole chip at 140022:55
CrazyLikeAFoxthat ight be something set wrong in the bios though22:56
Oererr that is not uncommon22:56
hiro_nudoge: http://termbin.com/osbi22:56
Bashing-om!info nvidia-375 xenial22:56
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: in terminal>   sudo apt install inxi pastebinit22:56
ubottuPackage nvidia-375 does not exist in xenial22:56
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: when it's done....say so22:56
Bashing-om!info nvidia-375 yakkety22:57
ubottuPackage nvidia-375 does not exist in yakkety22:57
Bashing-omhiro_: ^ OK, so how did you install the 375 version driver ? Is our trusted PPA at play here ?22:57
CrazyLikeAFoxgraphics are broken, driconf returned an error when I started it22:58
CrazyLikeAFoxDriver "amdgpu" is not installed or does not support configuration.22:58
CrazyLikeAFoxHuh, when it stop being apt-get?22:58
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: when it's done....say so22:58
CrazyLikeAFoxtatertots: that one didn't do anything, says they were the latest versions22:59
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: in terminal>    inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit22:59
hiro_Bashing-om: I'm not sure I'm afraid. This is a work laptop which I did not setup. I did try to install nvidia-current this evening, though.23:00
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: share url/link here23:00
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: sounds like they were both already installed.....have we met before lol...j/k23:00
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: share url/link here23:01
nudogedid you already run   'apt-get purge nividia-current && apt-get install nvidia-current' ??  I think I missed that part23:01
nudogehiro_: *23:01
CrazyLikeAFoxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24211853/23:01
CrazyLikeAFoxtatertots: Don't think so, I usually lurk in #xubuntu :P23:01
Bashing-omhiro_: K; let's then clear the air a bit ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' . See where that 375 vrsion driver came from .23:02
hiro_nudoge: something similar23:02
Bashing-omnudoge: Careful here as nvidia-current is the 304 version driver . real old now .23:03
nudogeBashing-om: Thank you, I will remember that.23:03
Bashing-om!info nvidia-current | nudoge23:03
ubottunudoge: nvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-304): Transitional package for nvidia-current. In component restricted, is optional. Version 304.134-0ubuntu0.16.10.1 (yakkety), package size 8 kB, installed size 19 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)23:03
hiro_Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/4yv723:04
nudogeIts been a few years since i have had hiro_'s issue23:04
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: that actually looks fine...give me a moment to scroll up to see what you actual problem statement was in your testimony23:04
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: ah i see23:04
CrazyLikeAFoxHuh, the numbers that reports doesn't seem to match anything in the listing for this machine https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683429436223:04
hiro_Bashing-om: when I tried to install cuda, I followed the insttructions here: https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads23:05
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: there is no more catylyst control center....you must be a long term amd gpu user accustomed to the old fglrx days23:05
nudogeI 'fixed' it by not using non-free or propitiatory drivers.  The graphics didn't display at their best but I used that PC for like 3 years.23:05
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: that is no more23:05
Bashing-omhiro_: While I look, disable this source : deb file:///var/cuda-repo-8-0-local-ga2 / .23:05
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: there is no little cute graphical utility now23:06
CrazyLikeAFoxAhh, been on amd graphics since 14.04lts was the current one23:06
CrazyLikeAFoxthis machine is the first real crack at 16.04 I've had23:06
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: i can tell you're an old school fglrx user..nothing wrong with that..i am also23:06
CrazyLikeAFoxhrm, how would I go about forcing it to always use the main gpu and never throttle?23:07
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: i miss that cute graphical utility also23:07
CrazyLikeAFoxI think my cpu is stuck on dynamic clock as well..23:07
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: on most systems you can declare a primary gpu in bios, selecting PCI-E/PEG to declare if you want the "onboard gpu" or "add in" gpu to be the primary gpu23:09
Bashing-omhiro_: Gimme a bit to catch up on your cuda link . Now what is "http://packages.elasticsearch.org/elasticsearch/1.5/debian" as I have no access to it . Are we mixing repos here ??? BAD BAd Bad if so .23:09
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: but you may not even need to do that from the looks of your inxi23:09
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: in terminal>   glxinfo|grep OpenGL|pastebinit23:09
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: share url/link here23:09
CrazyLikeAFoxIf I had known about the recent driver changes, I probally would've got the intel + nvidia model :x23:10
CrazyLikeAFoxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24212034/23:11
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: in terminal>   DRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo|grep OpenGL|pastebinit23:11
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: share url/link here23:11
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: at least you have a supported gpu....it could be worse...you could be using gallium as a glx renderer lol23:12
CrazyLikeAFoxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24212038/23:12
CrazyLikeAFoxthose last two lines the order they were given23:13
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: they both match...you're fine....you don't need to do anything23:13
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: i'm in mourning with you over the loss of a gui utility...maybe amd will bless us with one as development of amdgpu-pro evolves23:15
hiro_Bashing-om: that's for an app at work. not sure what you mean by mixing repos. is it for a different version of ubuntu?23:15
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: but don't hold your breath23:15
CrazyLikeAFoxThe bios on this laptop is very strange, and since my reboot the backlight for the keyboard is now acting up23:17
Bashing-omhiro_: Remove: deb https://deb.nodesource.com/node_6.x wily main , [arch=i386,amd64] http://apt.nylas.com/ubuntu vivid main , // And I give up .. too many mixed repos " https://packagecloud.io/slacktechnologies/slack/debian/ jessie main " . I do not have any idea how one would fix this install .23:17
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: there are some "options" some users are adding to xorg.conf like tear-free for example but still ...there's no gui utility anymore23:17
CrazyLikeAFoxThe bios has settings for charging profiles and optional time scedules for when it'll charge. If you don't manually punch in your desired charge start and endpoints, it won't charge past 60% in any profile23:18
CrazyLikeAFoxand now for some reason the keyboard backlight keeps turning off, then turning back on when I start typing23:18
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nudogeis that a feature?23:19
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: if you don't mind me asking what price range was that laptop in?  $400-$600 range or $600-$800 range or $800-$1000 range USD? or higher23:19
CrazyLikeAFoxIt shouldn't be, but it is now..23:19
nudogelol23:20
CrazyLikeAFoxJust shy of $80023:20
CrazyLikeAFoxshipped with windows 10 on it, which I didn't allow to boot even once23:20
hiro_Bashing-om: fair enough. thanks for the effort.23:20
CrazyLikeAFoxwas gonna give the win10 key to a buddy that's into that sort of thing, but there wasn't even a key sticker on it, or key written anywhere on the box/included paperwork23:21
CrazyLikeAFoxNor did it include install media or a manual -_-23:21
CrazyLikeAFoxjust a sheet of paper that told you how to plug in the ac adapter and press the power button23:22
CrazyLikeAFox(lol)23:22
Bashing-omhiro_: Per debian .. Don't - just don't : https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian . The same applies to 'buntu .23:23
irc3kdoesn't it bother you that you're working as a community here, helping out others, contributing, coding etc.. while some MONKEY out there rape and live on tax money? serious question. Demotivating, I don't want to do FOSS anymore with people like that around.23:30
CrazyLikeAFoxtatertots: Thanks for the help23:31
tatertotsirc3k: don't worry about things..you have no "direct" control over...meaning anything outside of your physical body...take care23:31
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: no problem my friend23:31
k1lirc3k: that is not a topic for this channel. please keep this channel for technical support only.23:31
Bashing-omhiro_: Unforunately mixing repos and distro repos then the packages are in a mess , I know of no way to straighten them back up . I have never heard of anyone who can ( or is willing to put forth the effort to try ) .23:31
CrazyLikeAFoxMy drivers didn't change any, but I know they're running now, and that catalyst is now a fever dream23:31
alien__friends, I am having trouble logging in a site while using ubuntu. I can log in on a Windows machine though. Any tip?23:32
tatertotsCrazyLikeAFox: don't bring it up...the word catalyst makes me sad23:32
CrazyLikeAFoxMaybe I'll stick 14.04 on here too to play with, I partitioned for 3 linux installs23:32
CrazyLikeAFoxI have one to try and get win7 on, but the last time I tried I couldn't get networking enabled23:33
hiro_Bashing-om: Sure. Do you reckon my best bet is to delete them and try a boot-repair?23:34
hiro_Or wipe everything and start again?23:35
* CrazyLikeAFox ponders what other linux flavor to try23:35
CrazyLikeAFoxIs there a distro of Arch with xfce as the default gui?23:36
k1lCrazyLikeAFox: there is xubuntu23:36
Bashing-omhiro_: I know of no way out . Back up your data and re-install . IF the debian packages are not available in ubuntu and you must have them ,, install debian . That is the best advise I can offer , Other's may have different opions .23:36
k1lfor other linux distributions ask ##linux or the distributions support23:36
CrazyLikeAFoxxubuntu is what I'm on right now, been on it since jaunty23:36
AltDeleteHi all, quick question: About to install 16.10 server on a 2011 mac mini. Intend on it being the sole OS on the machine. Anything I need to consider RE wireless network adapter? Eventually this will be shipped to a colo facility23:38
AltDeletesorry, 16.04 server **23:38
Bashing-omhiro_: I am of the opinion that if we can fix one thing in the current install there will be myriads of other issues popping up as we fix one others will come up . RE-install is by far the better course here . And this is one of those rare times I will say that .23:39
vvvvelky: hello23:42
elkyhi yehai, please don't do silly things here23:44
vvvvelky: hi please shut up23:44
beergetarian?23:45
elkybeergetarian: he's been screaming abuse at me in pm for the past hour ;)23:45
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beergetarianelky, hehehe- I saw a red warning and thought it was refering to mw23:46
beergetarianmw23:46
beergetarianme23:46
lol_hi guys23:50

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