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kubuntedweird, never had such problems with other distros and windows7 , but this win10 is weird and kubuntu seems too00:00
kostkoncraysiii, doubt it00:00
craysiiiwell now is the moment of truth00:00
CryptoSiDHi guys i made an error and copied a file into /dev/null and i keep receiving a mail with this: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: 428: /lib/lsb/init-functions: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied00:00
CryptoSiDhow can i fix this?00:01
craysiiiyay im in the DE :D00:02
kostkoncraysiii, mission accomplished00:03
CryptoSiDrm -f /dev/null; mknod -m 666 /dev/null c 1 3 , i think that'll do the trick, that one didn't work udevadm trigger --sysname-match=null00:03
Bashing-om!yay | craysiii00:03
ubottucraysiii: Glad you made it! :-)00:03
craysiiinow lets see if my 2nd monitor freaks it out00:04
cdrkeenhello was wondering if anyone could help me. I'm setting up vsftpd and i have it working so far, but I want to be able to have my friend to access the same folders that i am able to with read and write permissions. How do i go about this? do i chmod the folder 777?00:04
wiggmpkHow do I get back the use of typing a tilde in the terminal? I upgraded from 16.04.2 --> 17.04 and I can't type a tilde, it's really annoying00:04
YankDownUnderkubunted: When I'm confronted with ANY Windows 10 issues - here - in "plying my trade" and making money, the FIRST thing I do is to turn off - OFF - the "fastboot" "fast shutdown" and anything at all to do with hibernation. Why? Because the disk cannot be checked or fixed otherwise. Very "lovely" that MS has done this...all in the hopes that it will "make it appear that Windows boots faster"...hmmm...00:04
Brudacdrkeen: if you guys are in the same group (like 'users') you can set group permissions that allow group members read n write.00:05
kubuntedYankDownUnder: that's exactly what the instructions say , except that the "shutdown" is the fast boot and "restart" is the recommended prior to install...but neither works00:06
kubuntedok, i guess will have to deal with it later...gotta run..thanx for help00:08
cdrkeenBruda: so if i create a group called "vip" then do chown vip:vip /home/public it should work?00:08
YankDownUnderkubunted: Well I'm thankful I don't follow "those" instructions when I do Ubuntu installs here or onsite...I prefer K.I.S.S. and go with what works. No deviation.00:08
Brudacdrkeen: more like username:vip not vip:vip. because there's no user named vip. But yea basically.00:09
cdrkeenty sir00:09
tomreyncdrkeen: you'll also ensure they use proper umasks00:09
tomreyn*also want to00:10
xiusfistI have had ubuntu for about a week and it seems that most soultions involve using the terminal. When receiving help from people on the internet, how can I make sure that that "help" isnt malicious and will destroy my computer or something?00:14
YankDownUnderxiusfist: Trust. You're inherently in an Ubuntu officially sanctioned support channel.00:15
Brudaxiusfist: typically the software available by default on a system isn't malicious. But if someone recognizes malicious intent in a chat they will typically speak up.00:15
Bashing-omxiusfist: There is always that 10%, we watch !00:16
xiusfistxiusfist: you are watching me 10% of the time?00:17
wudo_honourhow to use execve to call shell'  I mean I don't know much about the argument of execve.00:17
YankDownUnderxiusfist: We're looking through your webcam at you right now.00:17
xiusfistfucking great00:17
YankDownUnderxiusfist: :)00:17
cdrkeensweet it works ty all00:18
Brudaxiusfist: wow put some clothes on you freak :P00:18
YankDownUnderxiusfist: OMG what's the hamster for?00:18
YankDownUnder:)00:18
Brudalol00:18
cdrkeensome body has been watching too much Rick and Morty :)00:18
bazhang!ot | bruda YankDownUnder00:19
ubottubruda YankDownUnder: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:19
unixpro1970More like Will and Grace!00:19
bazhanglets cut the chatter please00:19
xiusfistno but for real what commands should I look out for if I see them in the wild?00:19
YankDownUnderxiusfist: Outside of proper support channels...be wary and suspicious...strewth, that...and never give out ID credentials.00:20
blackflowxiusfist: for every new command someone gives you, read the manpage of it.00:22
blackflownever blindly copy paste commands into the terminal00:22
sirru5hHello everyone00:24
Bashing-omxiusfist: ^ +10 . Learn the manual . in terminal ' man man ' . (' q' to quit )00:24
xiusfisthow do I invert 2 finger scrolling? I looked in the mouse settings but the option was not there.00:32
kantlivelongis there any backport for 14.04 that support lvm2 cache?00:33
YankDownUnderxiusfist: That might be something to muck around with in your actual ~/.Xmodmap configuration...I had to do it to initially get "natural scrolling" with my mouse (like a Mac)00:33
blackflowI think I saw it in that tweak tool thingy... whatsitcalled....00:34
blackflowthe tool with which you tweak various unity and gnome params...00:34
YankDownUnder"mousetweaks"?00:35
kantlivelongthink i found one00:35
kantlivelonghttps://launchpad.net/~sbv/+archive/ubuntu/lvm-backports00:35
YankDownUnderOr "gnome-tweak-tool"?00:35
blackflowI think it was the gnome-tweak-tool00:37
blackflowbasically lets you select what is scrolled - content or view of it00:38
swampfoxim running 16.04 lts and had to reinstall. i had something on the top bar where i could click on it and open different apps. can someone remind me of the name?00:43
blackflowkantlivelong: random PPA with package apparently never updated in two years...  yeah, no.00:43
kantlivelongblackflow: i mean its for 14.04....00:43
blackflowkantlivelong: it's a random user's PPA00:43
kostkonswampfox, classic menu indicator?00:44
kantlivelongi mean i could prol update to 16.04..00:44
swampfoxmaybe, im going to look right now. thanks00:44
kostkonswampfox, you asked the same question like 2 days ago00:44
swampfoxno one answered00:45
blackflowkantlivelong: perhaps you should if you want those new features. it's not just lvm, you need kernel support, dm-cache, etc... probably an avalanche of updates for 14.04.00:45
kostkonswampfox, I did00:45
kenrinThe start menu ?00:45
swampfoxsorry maybe i missed it00:45
kostkonswampfox, that looks like the case00:45
kantlivelongmay as well i guess00:45
blackflowkantlivelong: just remember, it's systemd.00:46
kantlivelongblackflow: yeah nothing that would be affected minus backup software prol00:47
swampfoxyes that was it thank you kostkon, sorry i missed your answer before00:47
kantlivelongits just a home lab kvm box00:47
kostkonswampfox, no bad feelings. have a nice day00:47
blackflowkantlivelong: unless you handle services and daemons, you probably won't notice the difference :)00:48
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kantlivelongblackflow: im familiar with systemd <300:49
blackflowoh cool00:49
kantlivelongjust lazy00:49
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jmoironmy homedir is in /mnt;  i'm tryung to run something installed from a snap, but apparmor is denying it access;  can provide log from dmesg.  i've tried to give it access but i'm having trouble01:06
jmoirondeying it access to my homedir because it's on /mnt/ and there is some kind of sandboxing preventing it01:06
jmoirondenying*01:06
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Grorco1Hi I'm attempting to use genoils ethminer and am having issues with it freezing up my computer. I'm not sure if this is an issue with the driver, kernal or what can anyone help me narrow down what the exact issue is?01:08
orlockFreezes up the whole computer?01:08
orlockGrorco1: whhats the source of the software?01:08
Grorco1orlock, yes it shows the opencl loading to exactly 97% then completely freezes01:09
orlockGrorco1: mouse locks up?01:09
Grorco1orlock, I don't actually have a mouse lol01:09
orlockSO running from console?01:10
Grorco1orlock, lost mine haven't gotten around to getting a new one. Only using this for the miner so wasn't that worried about it01:10
Grorco1orlock, from a terminal yes01:11
orlockGrorco1: when you say completely freezes, do you mean the program or the whole computer?01:11
Grorco1orlock, the whole computer, have to hard shutdown01:11
orlockdoes Ctrl-Alt-f1 work?01:12
Grorco1orlock, not once it freezes01:12
orlockWeird, what user does it run as?01:12
Grorco1orlock, actually let me double check01:12
orlockGrorco1: i'd probably look at strace at this point, it's not going to fix it but it might provide more insight into what causes the lockup01:13
orlockGrorco1: strace -f ethminer > ethminer_strace.out01:14
orlockthen after it crashes and you reboot, have a look in ethminer_strace.out01:15
Grorco1orlock, should I output strace to a file? I've never actually used it.01:20
orlockGrorco1: Yup, it's pretty much required, too much crap othrwise01:23
orlockGrorco1:  And the output may not give you anything usefull, but at least you can see the system calls that it made before everything locked up01:23
drayHello01:24
orlockGrorco1: honestly, it's one of my last straw/unfamiliar software debugging methods, usually i'd look at debugging output or logs from the program first01:24
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chatter29hey guys01:35
chatter29allah is doing01:35
chatter29sun is not doing allah is doing01:35
chatter29to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger01:35
Grorco1orlock, this is a ton of crap to look through, not sure where to start01:40
bazhangGrorco1, where is this ethermin installed from01:40
orlockGrorco1: yeah it is - and generally start at the end, as thats where things broke01:41
Grorco1bazhang, https://github.com/ethereum/cpp-ethereum/01:43
bazhangGrorco1, which nvidia card, how many cuda core01:44
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Grorco1bazhang, amd rx 480 8gb01:46
bazhangGrorco1, cuda cores01:46
Grorco1bazhang, I don't know, I thought amd just used opencl01:47
bazhangGrorco1, ether mining needs those, and as far as the 3rd party software, you need to contact that packager01:47
bumblefuzzI've followed all the internet instructions I can find...01:48
bumblefuzzI can't get my new gpu installed01:48
bazhangGrorco1, it's typically for nvidia cards and cuda01:48
bumblefuzz...or recognized01:48
bumblefuzzI can pastebinit anything need to help diagnose the issue01:48
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bazhangGrorco1, so contact the package maintainer and see if they support such an old amd card, or if it's nvidia and cuda only01:50
Grorco1orlock, it looks like I'm missing a few files01:50
bumblefuzzI swear I can't come up with a reason why this shouldn't work01:50
bumblefuzzI've installed all sets of drivers01:50
bumblefuzzthe ADL, the SDK01:50
Grorco1bazhang, the card is brand new, and it is supported01:50
orlockGrorco1: Your probably just seeing it try to find a file looking through all the paths it has set and not finding it a bunch of times until it does01:50
bumblefuzzeverything... I can't get ubuntu trecognize my card01:51
orlockGrorco1: but yeah, supporting non-ubuntu software that interfaces with hardware is really tricky, hassle the maintainers01:51
bazhangthe rx 480? thats amd , Grorco1 does it even have cuda, please ask for support of that support in the proper venue01:52
bazhangof that software rather01:52
Grorco1bazhang, I keep telling you I don't need cuda support, you only need that for the nvida drivers. They got support AFTER amd01:53
bazhangGrorco1, this is not an ubuntu issue01:53
Grorco1bazhang, the software is written for amd, with patched in cuda support later on01:53
bazhangGrorco1, contact the packager for support01:53
Grorco1bazhang, I think the problem maybe related to the amd driver rather than genoil01:54
Bashing-ombumblefuzz: Remind me once more. what card and what release ? Be aware I too instaled a new nVidia card that in 14.04 has no native support . // When you boot in 'text' mode, does the kernel advise of the issue ?01:55
Grorco1bazhang, especially since it keeps looking for amdocl64 and can't find it..01:55
bumblefuzzBashing-om the kernel doesn't not advise01:55
bumblefuzzI'm running ubuntu mate 16.04.201:55
bumblefuzztrying to install an AMD RX58001:55
Grorco1bumblefuzz, did you look at the amdgpu-pro driver?01:56
bumblefuzzyep01:56
bumblefuzzit' installed01:56
bumblefuzzas well as the open source01:56
bumblefuzzI've installed everything at this point01:57
bumblefuzzlspci can see the device01:57
bumblefuzzbut it only tells you AMD and the device number01:57
bumblefuzzlsmod indicates amdgpu01:58
bumblefuzzbut the system still says it doesn't 'see' any video cards01:59
bumblefuzzvia lshw, or whatever01:59
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zeebokbumblefuzz, are you running the newest Mesa driver? The ones that come with Ubuntu I don't believe have been updated to a version that supports it02:02
bumblefuzzI'm not sure02:03
zeebokI can't speak for the 580, but I run a 480 and I basically need to grab the stable Mesa PPA in order for it to really work well02:04
bumblefuzzwell, let's give it a try02:04
Bashing-ombumblefuzz: Maybe needed os the 4.11 kernel ?/ : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeon-rx580-linux&num=2 . For Phoronix that card worked out of the box .02:05
bumblefuzzout of the box?02:06
bumblefuzzwait, so I can do a fresh install and just upgrade the kernel and be fine02:06
bumblefuzz??02:06
Bashing-ombumblefuzz: Yeah, no issues and no configuration required .02:07
bumblefuzzok ok ok... point me to how to properly upgrade the kernel and I'm just going to wipe and reinstall02:07
Bashing-ombumblefuzz: That RX 580 card has not to this time made it to the supported card lists that I have seen.02:09
Bashing-om!info linux-image-generic02:09
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.10.0.20.22 (zesty), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB02:09
Bashing-ombumblefuzz: ^^ do not know that even 17.04 will support that card . suggest ya fire up a live environment of 17.04 and test to see .02:11
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crazyhorse18what's something that can show me disk usage ?02:31
crazyhorse18i.e. a breakdown of what is using what02:32
crazyhorse18like tree structure02:32
th0rcrazyhorse18, du?02:32
crazyhorse18ah yep :)02:32
crazyhorse18thanks02:32
Bashing-om!info ncdu xenial | crazyhorse1802:34
ubottucrazyhorse18: ncdu (source: ncdu): ncurses disk usage viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.11-1build1 (xenial), package size 38 kB, installed size 94 kB02:34
mrck10hey02:38
sparrowswordhow do I ssh into a VM (oracle vm virtualbox) running ubuntu?02:38
mrck10idk02:38
Wulfsparrowsword: by using ssh02:42
xXEoflaOEXxI was trying to get Kubuntu 14.04 working to install it on my hard drive but when I tried to do so, I put my USB drive, and booted from it. when I leave, I got a kernel panic! Saying VFS unable to mount root FS on unknown-block(0,0)!02:42
Wulfsparrowsword: ip address, username, etc. may vary02:43
syntaks'evening folks02:51
syntaksi've come across a strange issue with 17.04 but i don't believe it's specific to this release02:51
syntaksupon reboot, it attempts to load up lightdm, but instead after a few flashes on the screen a blinking underscore02:51
syntaksit was just fine prior, but i had removed a package which had a chain reaction and removed a few others02:52
syntaksi tried to catch which were removed but it was too quick02:52
cfhowlettprior to ... ?02:52
syntaksprior to removing protobuf and protoc02:52
syntaksit included a few other packages in the process02:52
syntaksi noticed for example trying to bring up even sound settings in X after that or literally anything that wasn't already spawned wouldn't come up02:53
syntaksi rebooted thinking something was just wonky due to this being a dev release02:53
syntaksso i'm in live mode right now02:53
syntaksgrub's being particular and won't bring up a boot menu either02:53
syntakswas hoping someone might have run into this before :)02:53
xXEoflaOEXxI was trying to get Kubuntu 14.04 working but when I booted from my USB, I got a kernel panic instead of actually starting the installation. "Kernel Panic: Not syncing - VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)." It appeared that the hash that I downloaded is 1bcf80b32a3978107590271f8c9170fdf3b28c71 when it's supposed to be exact hash as the website says. I know that the download is bad.03:02
Maverickswhat's the nouveau is it some unstable beta package or something  ? https://askubuntu.com/a/821604/59661303:03
Maverickshello03:03
Mavericksthere seem to be many issues with nouveau as can be seen here https://askubuntu.com/search?q=Nouveau03:03
Maverickswould someone recommend installing this ?03:03
Mavericksat this point ?03:03
cfhowlettxXEoflaOEXx, noveau is  a graphics driver.  boot through nomodeset for now03:03
cfhowlett!nomodeset03:03
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter03:03
xXEoflaOEXxcfhowlett, ok. I am gonna do it to see if this occurs. I am using Radeon 9200 Series by the way.03:04
eelstrebordoes anyone know how to use hplip manager to print odd pages only? (without specifying every odd number)03:04
cfhowlettxXEoflaOEXx, sorry, got my eyes crossed.  meant the nomodeset advice for Mavericks03:04
Maverickscfhowlett: don't see that issue anymore. has anyone had success launching gui app from ubuntu image on docker hosted on WIndows 10/enterprise ?03:06
Mavericks*ubuntu16.0403:06
xXEoflaOEXxcfhowlett, I booted thorugh nomodeset and it still gives me that kernel panic despite that it had the X through nomodeset.03:12
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star_gazer21I was reading up on the "source" command and I learned that it's used to execute the contents of the file in the same shell. I'm a little confused here. When I try to run a c++ file, on a shell I don't really have to "source" it, just compile it (with g++) and execute it (a.out). How does source come into the picture here?03:18
star_gazer21Am I fundamentally misunderstanding something?03:20
orlockstar_gazer21: yeah03:20
orlockit's for shell commands03:21
orlockyou are talking about taking soruce code and compiling it to a binary03:21
syntaksfixed03:21
syntaksi knew it was protobufs03:21
syntaksfor anyone else that might have that issue03:22
syntaksjust boot into live, chroot your root partition03:22
syntaksedit /etc/resolv.conf03:22
star_gazer21orlock Oh, I understand now, thanks for the feedback! What would the simplest application of the source command look like?03:22
syntaksfix-missing and reinstall packages that were removed prior to the last known working config03:22
orlockstar_gazer21: a file with a single command in it?03:24
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orlockand you would then type source filename_with_single_command03:24
orlockstar_gazer21: honestly - never used it "manually" in over 20 years03:24
orlockstar_gazer21: i just make shell cripts which are essentially the same thing03:25
orlockexcept the shell scripts are executables with the shell mentioned at the start03:25
star_gazer21orlock cool, thanks! I'm just wondering what type of files does source actually work on? Definitely not C++ files...03:26
orlockstar_gazer21: from what i can tell, it's just a list of commands you would otherwise type into the shell03:26
orlocknot source03:26
orlockstar_gazer21: easy to test. Make a text file, and put some commands in, one on each line03:28
star_gazer21star_gazer21: Oh, that makes sense. So if I have a file that has, say "ls" followed by "cd dr", and if I source that file, those commands will be executed? (I'm going to try that out right now but I have a feeling I'm misunderstadndng something)03:28
orlocksome examples: uname -a   df -h   ls -al /etc/03:29
orlockthats three seperate shell commands, put them into a text file, one on each line and then type "source my_textfile_name03:29
orlockand it will run each of them the same as if you had just done the following03:29
orlockuname -a ; df -h ; ls -al /etc03:29
star_gazer21awesome, thanks so much orlock!03:30
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Hejkkijasådet04:02
samoaki've recently got Lenovo Thinkpad E470. installed CentOS 7.3 on the same. my sound driver isn't working. i want to try with latested ubuntu release. does anyone know if latest ubuntu release has supporting drivers for Lenovo Thinkpad E470 ?04:19
YankDownUndersamoak: Find out the hardware specs and you'll be able to look through the wiki/forums to see if there's a match. That being said, you can always merely create a bootable USB and find out "live"...hmm?04:21
samoakYankDownUnder: indeed.04:22
lotuspsychjesamoak: another good idea would be choosing an LTS release as most machines react a more stable way on it04:24
lotuspsychjesamoak: for newer hardware non-lts can also help in some cases04:24
UmeaboyAnyone getting a hash error when updating?04:28
Umeaboyhttps://pastebin.ca/380598304:28
samoaklotuspsychje: k, thank you very much.04:29
UmeaboyI ran sudo dkpg --configure -a and nothing had to be fixed.04:29
samoaklotuspsychje: i think Thinkpad E470 is around for a long time now.04:29
lotuspsychjeUmeaboy: we dont support external ppa's here mate04:29
YankDownUnderUmeaboy: I don't smoke hash, so I don't get errors.04:30
Umeaboylotuspsychje: The PPA is not the problem.04:30
UmeaboyThat works fine.04:30
samoaklotuspsychje: CentOS has always been a favourite OS for me. but i think i'll've to change to debian/ubuntu04:31
UmeaboyError:7 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty-updates/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata04:31
UmeaboySee?04:31
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Umeaboysamoak: Ever tried Mageia? :)04:31
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YankDownUnderUmeaboy: I was a Mandrake op for years...until, well, it wasn't...so it's still basically the same (from an objective point of view)04:32
samoakUmeaboy: no, never heard of it either. sorry.04:32
UmeaboyYankDownUnder: Yeah. Still stable and less flashy. :)04:32
YankDownUnderUmeaboy: Have you tried "purging" the PPA's and the re-adding the PPA's?04:32
UmeaboyYankDownUnder: Nope.04:32
Umeaboysamoak: Check distrowatch.com :)04:32
samoakUmeaboy: sure. :)04:33
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f1nch_Manjaro? =P04:34
UmeaboyYankDownUnder: The PPA isn't the problem.04:35
UmeaboyI told you.04:35
UmeaboyI still get that error when updating without it.04:36
YankDownUnderUmeaboy: So, then you DID purge the PPA's and then re-added them, yes?04:36
UmeaboyWhat's the easiest way to regenerate the standard list of repos for Ubuntu after you've deleted them?04:37
YankDownUnderUmeaboy: Snag the /etc/apt/sources.list from the ISO or from a liveUSB...or snag it from online...04:37
Bashing-omUmeaboy: Also : http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ <-Ubuntu Sources.List Generator04:39
UmeaboyYankDownUnder: I used System settings->Program & updates04:39
UmeaboyYankDownUnder: Issue still remains even thou I regenerated the list.04:49
YankDownUnderUmeaboy: What's the output look like? (Pastebinit)04:51
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UmeaboyHold on........... Gotta reboot.04:58
nexaceWindows 10 did an update today and completely jacked up my grub. Upon boot I get the grub rescue prompt, however nothing I've tried through google research is working to fix. I am currently in a live ubuntu boot, can anyone please assist?05:07
Bashing-om!grub | nexace05:09
ubottunexace: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub205:09
YankDownUndernexace: There's also: http://www.legendiary.at/2016/01/04/windows-10-update-changes-partition-table-and-breaks-grub/05:10
nexaceyep tried both of those05:11
nexacehmm an interesting deviation though with the /grub205:11
nexacei05:12
nexacei'll try it05:12
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BrudaYou can boot your Ubuntu installation from the live CD. Just use the grub console. Figure out which device has your ubuntu /boot dir then use the console 'configfile' command. From there you can boot Ubuntu and install grub again.05:22
amiibohHrm, there's something in my system tray that has no icon and nothing in it when I pop it open.05:41
amiibohAny way to find out what it is so I can kill it or make it go away?05:41
nexaceMy grub is messed up after Windows 10 update. On boot I only get grub rescue menu. My linux partition is /dev/sda4 but it won't let me mount it saying its wrong fs type. I checked the windows parition /dev/sda2 and all of the files are still there.05:42
nexaceHow can I fix this boot issue? boot-repair is not working either05:42
YankDownUndernexace: Everything we gave you earlier has not worked?05:44
nexaceno sir05:44
nexacetried it all multiple times05:44
* YankDownUnder shrugs05:44
YankDownUnderSorry bro...not a Windows fan/fanatic...especially NOT Win10...05:44
nexaceI'm trying to reinstall grub2 manually but I can't get /dev/sda4 to mount05:44
YankDownUndernexace: In Windows - did you turn off hibernation and "fastboot/fast shutdown"?05:49
nexaceshould the linux partition have the "boot" flag in gparted?05:49
lotuspsychjeamiiboh: imgur.com what you mean?05:49
nexaceYankDownUnder: no... the update did an automatic reboot and after that it broke05:50
YankDownUndernexace: Suggestion: do that. Turn off hibernation and disable "fastboot/fast shutdown" - reboot Windows, then re-start your work on grub/linux05:50
nexacein bios?05:51
nexacei cant boot into windows05:51
nexacei cant boot into anything other than live ubuntu05:51
YankDownUndernexace: In Windows. The settings in Windows - for power...you can also do it from the "powershell" or "cmd" prompt.05:51
nexaceYankDownUnder: im stuck, i cant boot into anything. only the live ubuntu cd05:52
YankDownUndernexace: Obviously that's not cool. What's supposed to be on /dev/sda4? What kind of partition is that?05:53
nexacei like 95% its an ext2, only other possibility is ext405:54
nexacemy primary ubuntu partition05:54
Bashing-omnexace: Before I go into this, how do you know that sda4 is your linux root partition ?05:54
YankDownUndernexace: Ah. Fair enough.05:54
nexace/dev/sda4       1260347390 1465147391  204800002  97.7G  5 Extended05:54
nexace/dev/sda5       1456764928 1465147391    8382464     4G 82 Linux swap / Solaris05:54
nexace1,2,and 3 all say NTFS and I can tell they are the windows partitions05:55
Bashing-omnexace: Nope . and extended partition is a container to hild "logical" partitions . show us on a pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' .05:56
YankDownUndernexace: In saying that you're "trying" to mount /dev/sda4 - er, what happens? What errors are you getting...?05:56
YankDownUnder"hild"?05:56
Bashing-omhild/hold*05:56
YankDownUnderHehehhehehahaha05:56
YankDownUnderYersh...05:56
nexaceBashing-om: https://paste2.org/YCChkPHW05:56
Monica_Heartso lately my sounds stopped working after i unplugged my laptop from a lot of things and today i typed into the command line05:58
Monica_Heartpacmd05:58
Monica_HeartWelcome to PulseAudio 8.0! Use "help" for usage information.05:58
Monica_Heart>>> list-sinks05:58
Monica_Heartand it says05:58
Bashing-omnexace: Nope. no linux partition exist any more . :(05:58
Monica_Heartmuted: yes05:58
nexacesigh05:59
Monica_Heartis there any way to unmute this? I tried amixer set Master on, amixer set Master unmute05:59
nick__Has anyone ever limited a user's access to only use a certain network device before?  (e.g. tun0 ) ?05:59
nexaceBashing-om: so best option is to just install ubuntu on that sda4 section and it should fix grub2 right?06:00
YankDownUndernexace: Keyword: *should*06:00
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: Is there a "mute" key on the laptop? Have you tried to hit that or the volume keys on the laptop?06:01
BrudaIf there's already an ubuntu installation it's not necessary to install again. Just to load it up and install grub. Maybe regenerate the config if the other OS's are not listed.06:01
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nexaceBruda: parted -l is apparently not showing the partition06:02
nexacethe blocked off section is still there though06:02
Brudanexace: you can check from the live grub console.06:02
nexacethrough the lice cd?06:03
nexacelvie06:03
nexacelive06:03
Monica_HeartYankDownUnder, yupp06:03
Brudayea load grub on the live cd. Enter console with '06:03
Brudac'06:03
Brudathen type 'ls' command to see devices.06:03
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: What version of Ubuntu are you using?06:03
Brudawait. Let me back up. I might be confused on what you are trying to do. Does Ubuntu boot?06:04
Bashing-omnexace: well, in that extended partiton of 105GB minus the swap of 4292MB ; you can make up another logical partition . Now if you are certain that at one time there was a linux install .. testdisk "might" be able to recover it ( an image is highly recommneded ) .06:04
Monica_Heart16.0406:04
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: Unity desktop, or something else?06:04
Monica_Heartsomething else06:05
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: Which "something else", hmm?06:05
Monica_HeartI can try unity really quick though06:05
Monica_Heartawesome wm06:05
Brudanexace: Did you say your windows update overwrote your grub? You are trying to fix it? Correct?06:05
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: No...no need to switch desktops...just was wondering...06:05
nexaceBruda: yes that is correct. everything worked fine, then windows 10 did an upadte and rebooted, then grub broke06:06
hateball!fixgrub06:06
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub206:06
BrudaOk. Yea you can load the live cd grub. Then use grub console to boot Ubuntu06:06
nexacethanks hateball but already tried that 6 times06:06
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: Since you've got a terminal open, can you type: sudo systemctl restart osspd ----> please?06:07
nexacebruda: how do I get into the grub console from terminal?06:07
Brudanexace you hit 'c'.06:07
Monica_HeartYankDownUnder, it says the service was not found :o06:07
Bashing-omBruda: Your attention is invited to : https://paste2.org/YCChkPHW for nexace . No linux partition exist .06:08
nexacebruda: when I reboot I get the grub-rescue prompt, not the normal grub prompt06:08
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: Right...hang on a tick...06:08
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: Can you type: sudo systemctl restart pulseaudio ---> please?06:08
Monica_Heartyupp06:08
BrudaBashing-om: worth a shot to see if grub can find his linux partition. But I get what you are hinting at.06:09
Monica_Heartcan't find it :O06:09
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: Try: sudo service pulseaudio restart06:09
nexacebruda: i am currently booted into the live ubuntu cd desktop. how do I access the grub menu?06:09
Monica_HeartYankDownUnder, negative06:10
Bashing-omBruda: I am always willing to be shown something new . I go into my lurk mode :)06:10
Brudanexace: if you are in the desktop you passed grub already actually.06:10
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: Hmm...so what exactly did you "unplug" - is the audio supposed to be going to external speakers, or to the speakers in the laptop...?06:10
nexacebut I booted from cd06:10
Brudaright. But you booted the live environment. The grub console is in the bootloader.06:11
Monica_HeartYankDownUnder, it was going to the external speakers and then06:11
YankDownUndernexace: When you reboot, STOP before the "LiveCD" starts...THAT is the grub menu...06:11
Brudayou boot the CD but before you boot the live Ubuntu you hit 'c' to get into grub console.06:11
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: ...and then...?06:11
Monica_Hearti unplugged it, but neither the speakers nor the built in laptop sound doesn't work06:11
Monica_Heartanymroe06:11
nexacesigh we are all over the place06:12
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: Fair enough.06:12
nexaceok. PC powers on, i immediately get grub-rescue prompt. can go no further06:12
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: Is it possible to power off the machine...let it sit for a few seconds...and then turn it back on again?06:12
nexacethe only way around is to insert ubuntu cd and boot live ubuntu06:12
Monica_HeartYankDownUnder, tried that :P06:12
Monica_Heartoh heres my sudo aplay -l btw06:13
nexaceanyway, re-installing ubuntu will fix this06:13
Monica_Hearthttp://termbin.com/0b8706:13
Monica_Heartit actually omitted the part where it says06:14
Monica_HeartHome directory not accessible: Permission denied06:14
Monica_HeartI think this might be a problem06:14
Brudanexace: yea you can go that route too. If you have trouble even just accessing a grub console then explaining how to fix grub might be difficult.06:14
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: Well, hmm...without "knowing" the "awesome wm"...what I would suggest is (in the terminal) type: unity-control-center ==> when the control center appears, check the audio settings - as I would presume that the audio is setup for external speaker output, hence your inability to control the laptop speakers...hmm?06:14
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: Er...home directory not accessible: Permission denied ==> you're seeing this WHERE?06:14
nexacebruda: I can only get to grub-rescue prompt. HOWEVER, if I boot into the ubuntu live cd I can do whatever to the filesystem.06:15
Monica_HeartYankDownUnder, in the sudo aplay -l06:15
Brudanexace: on the liveCD there's a grub menu. That's where you find grub console.06:15
jackhumcan anyone tell me what is this gnome thingy in need06:15
jackhumhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/gnome-os-x-mac-gtk-theme-for-linux06:15
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YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: Don't do "sudo aplay -l" --> just do "aplay -l"06:15
jackhumi think i am using unity , can i install this thmee06:15
Brudanexace: is usually the first thing to load up. Might have to hit a key to kill the Ubuntu live boot to see grub menu.06:15
Monica_HeartYankDownUnder, oh truu06:16
Monica_HeartYankDownUnder, ah gosh it was muted06:22
Monica_HeartI just got it to work by using pavucontrol06:22
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: Funny that. Hmm. :)06:22
Monica_HeartYankDownUnder, Thank you :D06:22
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: YOU found the answer - YOU pat yerself on the back and buy yerself a donut. :)06:23
Monica_Hearthahahaah06:23
Monica_Heartif i buy a donut I will have to share with you though06:23
Monica_Heart;)06:23
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: As long as it's a vegetarian donut without any meat or alcohol in it. Great.06:23
Monica_Heartlol wat donut has meat or alcohol xD06:24
YankDownUnderMonica_Heart: None.06:24
Monica_Heartso ur safe06:25
BrudaI almost just want to list the steps just so I can say I've said HOW to load an installed Linux system from a live cd grub.06:27
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BrudaDoes anyone else want to try it just for the hell of it? It's pretty useful to know.06:31
* YankDownUnder looks at his rock solid system(s)06:31
YankDownUnderBruda: Er...nah...06:31
Brudalol06:31
YankDownUnderNext meteor strike, I'll turn off the machines and give it a go, Bruda06:32
BrudaI've had to mess around with grub when I created my multiboot live USB drives. Learned a lot about booting.06:33
akikBruda: you basically need three grub commands: linux, initrd and boot06:35
Brudaakik: you can also just use configfile command.06:35
Brudaakik: if you know where the installed grub.cfg is you can load it, then it boots the installed grub menu. Even if it was overwritten from mbr.06:36
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katsumebliskI have a dumb question. What is it called where you use s/foo/bar to change foo to bar in the previous command? DuckDuckGo isn't helping because I don't know what to search for.07:00
Ben64katsumeblisk: sed?07:00
katsumebliskBen64: That's probably it. I couldn't remember. It was something I learned years ago, and being nerd I always did "s//" to replace things in text messages and stuff, but I forgot the actual command07:01
katsumebliskBen64: That's totally it. Thank you!07:01
Ben64cool07:01
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gredjokif i suspend my notebook with function keys it hangs when I press any key to un-suspend after 14 hours and I have to unplug and replug. Should I expect suspend to work if I execute it from the shell07:29
gredjok?07:29
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Vorapic07:34
VorapOops, don't mind that07:34
mohdemadWhen I open a .docx file with equations in libreoffice writer the equations are shown as images and also some symbols are missing. How can I fix this?07:39
YankDownUnder.docx is not a "spreadsheet" file... -> an .xlsx is a spreadsheet file.07:40
mohdemadYankDownUnder: I mean .docx, a word file with math equations07:42
ducassegredjok: why expect - try?07:42
YankDownUndermohdemad: Fair enough. Have you tried asking in #libreoffice yet?07:43
fadavihello there. how can i completely come back to Upstart and purge Systemd? guide me, please.07:44
mohdemadYankDownUnder: yeah I asked there but got no answer07:44
Bashing-omfadavi: You do not - systemd is here to stay . if ya gots to have upstart then 14.04 will be around for a bit yet .07:45
gredjoki just executed "suspend" in the shell and nothing happpened. there is no manpanges either...07:49
fadaviBashing-om: are you sure? i thought we can choose between Systemd, Upstart, etc.07:51
pahi07:52
panouveau keep crashing my X07:52
pagpu: nvidia quadro 31007:52
paNVS07:52
paubuntu 16.04.207:52
ducassefadavi: not anymore, upstart is no longer developed and lots of stuff won't work with it07:53
pawhat can i do?07:53
fadaviducasse: :( thanks.07:54
pai get like:07:55
pa[   48.144501] nouveau 0000:03:00.0: fifo: INTR 01000000: 0000000507:55
pa[   48.144507] nouveau 0000:03:00.0: fifo: INTR 0080000007:55
paand after a while it crashes07:56
pacant even switch to TTY07:56
fadavihow can i get full detailed log of current boot?07:56
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ducassefadavi: on 16.04 and up, 'journalctl -b 0'07:57
fadaviducasse: thankks again.07:57
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thamcitahola08:03
efuhello guys, any know alternatve  proxifier for ubuntu?08:04
YankDownUnderBuenos noches...08:04
thamcitaalguien sabe de algún curso 'completo' de Python para iniciar?08:05
YankDownUnderthamcita: !es08:05
thamcitaDonde(?08:05
hateball!es | thamcita08:06
ubottuthamcita: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.08:06
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pizzaSteveHello! Need help with printing on xubuntu 17.04. HP LaserJet M1132 MFP, is visible and shown as connected. Whenever I print, I get "error processing document". The diagnostic output says "Page 1 (<troubleshoot.SchedulerNotRunning.SchedulerNotRunning object at 0x7f7d7e907e48>): {'cups_connection_failure': False}". Any suggestions?08:23
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hateballpizzaSteve: How did you install the printer? Using the add printer wizard?08:24
hateballpizzaSteve: Sometimes it picks the wrong driver (default) so maybe you are using foomatic when it needs to use hpijs08:25
hateballor vice versa08:25
pizzaSteveI did not install it. Checked "dpkg -l hplip" and it shows that xubuntu comes pre-installed with driverts08:25
fadavihow can i fix this message in my boot log? "SSSD couldn't load the configuration database [2]: No such file or directory."08:25
hateballpizzaSteve: You can edit the printer and pick a different driver, see if that works better08:25
chullmy husband wants to know if ubuntu 16.04 will work on his Lenovo Flex 3?08:34
tarzeauchull: try it?08:35
grekhi i try mount ftp in fstab - add this curlftpfs#ftp://grek:pass@192.168.1.37 /mnt/synology fuse rw,allow_other,noauto,user 0 008:36
grekmount -a08:36
chullhi tarzeau :)08:36
grekany errors but folder empty08:36
grekftp://grek:pass@192.168.1.37  in dolphin open ftp ftp://grek:pass@192.168.1.3708:37
grekwhere can by a problem ?08:37
grek/mnt/synology owner my user group fuse, my user is in fuse group08:37
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tiyteezegrek: do you succeed to mount the partition in Dolphin?08:43
pizzaStevehateball: How do I use hpijs instead of foomatic ?08:43
grektiyteeze i can connect with dolphin but mount not work08:45
hateballpizzaSteve: you should be able to pick the driver if you edit the printer08:45
hateballpizzaSteve: I dont remember what the gui looks like in xubuntu (or ubuntu) tho but it shouldnt be too hard to find08:45
grekcurlftpfs grek:pass@192.168.1.37 /mnt/synology08:46
grekfrom terminal mount this as root08:46
pizzaStevehatebll: I did find it, gives me additional options to provide my own .PPD file (can't find it on the driver CD), and search for a driver to download (doesn't find my model), so im looking online for the PPD file08:46
pizzaSteve*hateball08:47
grekok i reboot mayby it work08:47
hateballpizzaSteve: if you can grab the windows driver you can usually unpack that exe and steal the PPD08:47
sjd_zeushi all08:47
fadavisssd must be installed on a PC? whats the result of removing it?08:47
pizzaStevehateball: is that a simple process ?08:48
hateballpizzaSteve: I am looking on http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/color_laserjet.html for your M1132 but there's nothing08:49
hateballpizzaSteve: and yes, usually08:49
tiyteezegrek: So ?08:50
grekno not work08:50
grekfuse rw,allow_other,noauto,user 0 0  - noauto ?08:50
grekchange it to auto ?08:50
greki have empty folder /mnt/synology08:51
pizzaStevehateball: you are looking at color laserjet, mine is greyscale: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_professional_m1132_mfp.html08:51
hateballpizzaSteve: oh, it's not color, is why08:51
hateball:)08:51
tiyteezegrek: why do you want to mount it using the terminal ?08:51
grekno i want mount using fstab08:51
pizzaStevehateball: yup. Could you please provide any link on how to extract the .PPD file from the driver .exe?08:51
grekbut not work08:51
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grekcurlftpfs#grek:pass@192.168.1.37 /mnt/synology fuse rw,allow_other,noauto,user 0 008:52
grekthis is fstab line08:52
netcrimeHello. Im using Ubuntu 16.04 desktop. I'm trying to set a cron job based on owncloud tutorial. crontab -u www-data -l */15  *  *  *  * php-cli -f /var/www/owncloud/cron.php08:53
netcrime this line gives me error crontab: invalid option -- 'f'08:53
netcrime  what might be the problem? how to solve it ?08:53
tiyteezenetcrime: Maybe you should go to the #owncloud channel08:53
tiyteezenetcrime: (/join #owncloud)08:54
tiyteezenetcrime: You will have more chance to get support08:54
hateballpizzaSteve: can you instead run "hp-plugin" ?08:55
Toxtlowhen intel releases its new xeons, will ubuntu work with them? can anybody point out some "keywords" I might look for to get further infos?08:55
Komputerfreakhi08:55
hateballpizzaSteve: that should prompt to download the plugins needed by hplip08:55
netcrimetiyteeze: You think this is onwcloud problem and not ubuntu cron setting ?08:56
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pizzaStevehateball: here's what I got: https://ghostbin.com/paste/h96ty08:56
hateballpizzaSteve: oh you dont have Qt installed. try with -i as suggested then08:57
hateballor install Qt :p08:57
Komputerfreaki have a HP printer too, hplip works very well with it08:59
hateballYep, usually does. Just that some models need these binary blobs as well09:00
pizzaStevehateball: works like a charm. A million Thanks to You! You're awesome!09:01
hateballpizzaSteve: nice :)09:01
Toxtlome too, got some problems with it after upgrading from 16.10 to 17.04, purging and reinstalling with synaptic packet manager helped09:01
KomputerfreakIt is one of those scanner-printer-combo-devices. I could print and scan immediately without having to fiddle with anything. Very nice work by HP.09:02
Toxtlomost of them have a webscan feature too09:02
Toxtloused this most of the time09:03
fadavihow can i fix this message in my boot log? "SSSD couldn't load the configuration database [2]: No such file or directory."09:04
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Komputerfreakwhat database could it be looking for?09:07
fadaviKomputerfreak: i dont know, its in sssd log.09:13
jarnosIs it ok to use xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 with non-hwe kernels (4.4.0 series, no linux-generic-hwe-16.04 installed)?09:20
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[2]tt.09:39
[2]tt?09:39
fishcookeranyone using this https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages i've noticed that there is a thunderbird-trunk but after update ... i can't get the package09:43
fadavii've these errors in my boot log: paste.ubuntu.com/24497709 please someone help me to solve them.09:45
fadavihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24497709/09:45
vincenzomlHi, I can't enable memtest86 at grub boot, I have the package installed but update-grub won't add entries to grub.cfg09:48
vincenzomlI'm on 17.0409:48
vincenzomlseems like I'm using EFI boot and that can cause problems, is there any simple procedure to follow09:48
vincenzoml?09:48
vincenzomlI see this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+/+bug/883017 but no resolution09:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 883017 in memtest86+ (Ubuntu) "memtest86+ fails on efi systems" [Medium,Triaged]09:50
grekok i mont this disk in fstab09:50
grekbut have strange think - in dolphin ftp - i have transfer about 50MB/s in fuse mount abount 200kB/s :)09:51
grekcurlftpfs#grek:pass@192.168.1.37 /mnt/synology fuse rw,allow_other,user,_netdev 0 009:51
grekmaybe sommethink wrong ?09:51
grekthere is other more speed way?  ntfs / samba ? any idea ?09:53
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aadiHey all, anyone here knows, how to fix that annoying chrome flickering, this happens only in ubuntu :(10:14
bazhangaadi, chrome fro the google repos?10:15
bazhangaadi, or did you mean chromium-browser10:16
aadibazhang, chrome from the google repo10:17
snwhello friends10:17
bazhangaadi, as in the browser? what cvould be 'flickeing in that10:18
aadibazhang, It happens mostly when I surf the web10:18
bazhangaadi, doing what10:18
aadibazhang, Anything on the web10:19
bazhangaadi, video is what flickering refers to10:19
aadibazhang, I mean that my chrome web page which is currently I am viewing, flickers continually, which is annoying as hell. I searched the net too but couldn't find anything useful :(10:23
bazhangaadi, have you checked the google bugtracher for issues with that? tried the same exact, but with different browswers?10:24
bazhang-w10:24
aadibazhang, yup I did, Mozilla is good but only this chrome is making problem :(10:27
bazhangaadi, so what did a search of the google bugtracker turn up10:28
aadibazhang, I turned off the hardware acceleration that solves but that restricts the UI of the chrome that I don't like:(10:31
SchrostfutzHi, I want to modify a .deb package I built. How can I extract it?10:34
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reki did sudo rm -r /*  what can i do now?10:38
reki get an error at the boot10:38
superKillerI have a gnome question, how can I stop the activities window from being displayed when i hover over the activities on the top left, the solutions i googled were for 11.10 and required to go into the /usr/share/gnome-shell/js/.. but i cant find a js directory in gnome-shell10:38
cfhowlettrek, why did you use that command10:38
rekto delete a folder i was in... but i did /* instead of the path of the folder... i was going on holiday and i was late10:39
cfhowlettsadly, ubuntu has no protection against such user errors.  reinstall.10:40
rekcfhowlett,  luckily my personal data in /home was ok...10:41
aadibazhang, I fixed it bruh :)10:41
sirru5hHey I've already setup my partitions I have quite a bit still which is free can I safely resize my /home partition10:42
cfhowlettsirru5h, boot into a USB and repartition away.  do NOT repartition while booted into your current installed system10:43
sirru5hcfhowlett, sounds good I just didn't want to find myself nuking my /home or something equally as destructive10:44
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laalaai'm in the process of installing ubuntu, it said existing changes to partitions need to be applied before continuing and it's been doing that for 25min, is that normal? (it's an ssd)10:48
cfhowlettare you repartitioning?10:49
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sirru5hwell not repartitioning I got a partition which has lots of free space10:52
sirru5hand I would like to basically resize10:52
cfhowlettresizing = repartitioning.  depending on your ram, yeah, it can take time.10:53
sirru5hi apologize thought that you were asking me a question10:53
sirru5hI run an old netbook and it took me about 30 minutes10:54
zap0is 7zip something that is easy to integrate with the file prowser app?10:59
zap0browser/11:00
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danieeelI made dd with mbr.bin to wrong partition, is there any way to recover data on that partition?11:20
danieeelHi11:20
EriC^^!testdisk | danieeel11:22
EriC^^danieeel: yes, sudo apt-get install testdisk11:22
EriC^^danieeel: do you have an old parted -l or fdisk paste of the disk? that would be easier maybe11:22
laalaaso ubuntu has been "applying changes" to partitions on installation for an hour, should i pull the plug and prepare unallocated space on another partitioning utility?11:23
danieeelEriC^^: Im not on that computer, not able to paste it11:23
cfhowlettyeah, I'd say it faile11:23
EriC^^danieeel: does the other pc have an internet connection?11:23
danieeelEriC^^: Yes11:24
EriC^^danieeel: do "cat /path/to/stuff | nc termbin.com 9999"11:24
danieeelwhat is path to stuff?11:25
oderuhow to remove plex media server on ubuntu11:26
danieeelwhat path exactly?11:26
danieeelEriC^^: ^^11:26
danieeelEriC^^: You mean I should do fdisk -l >> file.txt and then cat file.txt | nc ... ?11:27
sam_wongHi, what command am I able to check the present wifi channel ?11:27
EriC^^danieeel: no i meant if you had an old paste of fdisk -l (before the mbr went) you could use it to restore the mbr11:28
EriC^^danieeel: if you dont have a paste somewhere or maybe in your browser history etc then install testdisk sudo apt-get install testdisk and type sudo testdisk11:28
EriC^^sam_wong: nmcli dev wifi11:29
danieeelEriC^^: If I type fdisk -l now I get partition type HPFS/NTFS/EXFAT11:29
danieeelpartition type is still the same11:29
danieeelOk Im trying with testdisk11:29
sam_wongEric: thanks a lot11:30
EriC^^sam_wong: no problem11:30
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EriC^^danieeel: in testdisk you can view the files of the partition by pressing "p"11:34
laalaalol "your screen, graphics card and input device settings could not be detected correctly. you will need to configure these yourself." implying i know how :D11:34
laalaai have one monitor on intel igpu and another on discrete gpu, i guess that's too much11:36
GinTThi budies ,how to connect a hidden wifi ,which its ssid and password are known .11:36
danieeelEriC^^: I can install packages from live edition?11:40
EriC^^danieeel: yeah11:40
hateballGinTT: edit network connections and enter the information manually11:40
wadadliDoes anyone know how to get entire directories with ftp?11:42
GinTThateball: i edited it and added Wi-Fi connection, but how to activate it and how to use it ?11:42
tarzeauwadadli: lftp mirror ?11:42
hateballGinTT: I dont use unity so I dont really know what the nm-gui looks like there. should be able to rightclick and connect I guess?11:43
wadadlitarzeau: ?11:43
danieeelEriC^^: Shoud I execute analyse option in testdisk?11:43
wadadlitarzeau: I'm using ftp from the cli on a godaddy web host11:44
wadadlitrying to pull down the entire httpdocs director11:44
danieeelEriC^^: Disk was detected with Intel partition Type11:44
ikoniawadadli: it's normally a client restriction11:44
tarzeauwadadli: lftp is also a cli program11:44
EriC^^danieeel: yes11:44
danieeelEriC^^: I executed quicksearch, good11:46
danieeel?11:46
EriC^^danieeel: yes11:46
wadadlitarzeau: I downloaded it but it's throwing a cerfificate verification error11:49
Jackal08Hi guys, What is the best way to search for a chat about trading financial markets? Sorry Im new here and i am a little lost.11:53
cfhowlett!alis | Jackal0811:54
ubottuJackal08: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"11:54
wadadlitarzeau: how do I download entire directory with this program?11:55
danieeelEriC^^: After quicksearch is done, what will be next step. I will be able to copy those files to usb for example?11:57
tarzeauwadadli: i usually do lftp thesite.ftp11:57
tarzeauwadadli: then mirror help, help mirror, i don't remember, and then -m or -r or so11:57
EriC^^danieeel: if you want, yes, you can also pick which partitions you want and it'll be the new partition table and write it11:57
tarzeauwadadli: you will figure out, since you're familiar with cli and ftp :)11:57
danieeelEriC^^: great!11:58
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danieeelEriC^^: I gues I should do dd to sda not sda1 right?12:01
EriC^^danieeel: huh?12:01
EriC^^in what context?12:01
danieeelEriC^^: cause today I had a problem with disk, system couldnt find linux partition and which was visible was windows partition. So I wanted to start windows without grub loader and I installed mbr.bin with dd on sda112:03
danieeeland one which was visible*12:04
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danieeelEriC^^: But I installed mbr.bin to /dev/sda1, but it should be /dev/sda right?12:06
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multifractalI want to get some kind of 2in1 laptop/tablet to save my back pain. Microsoft surface pro looks to be among the best, but I will only buy something that I can install Ubuntu on. https://askubuntu.com/questions/791976/installing-ubuntu-on-surface-pro-4 Is this currently the status of support? I'd need the keyboard attachment to work.12:09
FinalXhmm. I've got a bunch of LXC-containers, but, I can't seem where to find where to disable the getty spawning (xenial, systemd). anyone know? /etc/logind.conf doesn't seem to be the place. Don't need any of them, not even console.12:10
hateballmultifractal: probably better off asking in ##hardware12:10
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hateballmultifractal: any (most) chromebook can run ubuntu really, like asus c30212:10
andyworki use simplescan to scan documents for work on ubuntu. I am mostly very happy with this except that there are no sharpening filter that can be applied. Windows equivalent soft have these things and the scanned documents are clearly sharper and easy on the eyes. Is there a good alternative to SimpleScan that have sharpening options (that is easy to use), should I get another scanner, or scan docs in a VM?12:12
multifractalhateball: Fair enough, but I'd like it to have a bit of get-up-and-go. Sufrace pros are supposed to be pretty powerful, for a 2in1.12:12
FriendlyFuhrerhey guys can anyone here help me with repairing my MBR I got this nasty json.refresh bullshit and well I've tried repairing it using several methods of terminal use in ubuntu win7/8 repairdiscs my msi tools disc with winki grub etc12:12
FriendlyFuhreranyone have any suggestions on mbr tools that will autofix it for me or anything for reinstallation of my windows..?12:12
cfhowlettandywork, vm experiment is worth trying12:13
andyworkcfhowlett: I have already done that, which is how I know the difference. Do you suggest that I should keep doing that?12:15
cfhowlettandywork, if it delivers the quality you need, continue.  IMHO.12:15
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EriC^^danieeel: yeah, but that's an issue, i thought you only erased the /dev/sda 's mbr12:24
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andyworkcfhowlett: I admit that I have a cheap scanner. Perhaps the included windows software just compensates for this? Otherwise maybe SimpleScan would have an option? Is this reasonable?12:25
danieeelEriC^^: So you know the context :) I still should be able to recover files from /dev/sda1?12:27
K-ubuntuerHi12:27
cfhowlettandywork, I've not used simplescan enough to provide a meaningful comparison. Assuming that you drivers are correct and everything is updated, lens are clean, etc, I would expect both to provide equal output.  If that's not happening, you could consider dualbooting with windows.  PITA, I know ...12:27
darthanubisapt is hanging on aRCHIVE.CONICAL.COM 91.189.92.15012:31
cfhowlett... sadly, conical is not an ubuntu issue.12:32
andyworkcfhowlett: I appreciate your input, but there will be no dualboot. I'll stay a bit maybe something comes up.12:39
masterasiaHow come when I type 'which phantomjs', it return nothing12:40
masterasiabut typing phantomjs gives me a prompt12:40
masterasia(meaning it is in the path12:40
masterasia)12:40
geirhamasterasia: run ''type phantomjs''. The which command is useless12:44
Sparrow__!find audio-recorde12:45
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 108 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=audio-recorde&searchon=names&suite=zesty&section=all12:45
masterasiageirha, thanks ->  phantomjs is hashed (/home/edward/applications/bin/phantomjs)12:45
shadeNvHello.12:45
shadeNvCan someone tell me why after watching YT videos for a couple of hours it often happens that my left headphone becomes fuzzy with noise in it?12:45
shadeNvIt's not the headphones because I replaced them.12:46
geirhamasterasia: then it possibly was in PATH at some point, then you've changed PATH at a later time in that shell session12:46
shadeNvDoes anyone else have this happen?12:46
shadeNvIf I reboot my computer it goes away.12:46
shadeNvUntil the next time.12:46
masterasiageirha, is that what hashed means?12:46
masterasiaI set it in bash_profile12:46
geirhamasterasia: First time you run a command in a session, and it's not a an alias, function or builtin, it search through PATH for it. If it finds it, it stores it in an internal hash table, so next time you run it, it doesn't have to search through PATH again12:47
shadeNvCould it be my USB sound card?12:47
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shadeNvSee, if I test the left speaker now I hear the noise.12:48
shadeNvChanged digital to analog and now it went away.12:49
shadeNvWhat's the difference?12:49
shadeNvThe analog is way louder.12:49
scottjlneed an amp12:49
shadeNvWhy is the analog way louder?12:50
zap0shhh, the hipsters will get excited.12:51
shadeNvabout what?12:52
shadeNvhonestly, this analog sounds very good12:53
shadeNvseems like a significant improvement over the digital12:53
shadeNvi wonder why that would be12:53
geirhamasterasia: wait, what do you mean "set it in bash_profile"? you updated the hash table manually?12:55
masterasiageirha, I added my folder to $PATH12:55
masterasiaexport PATH="~/applications/bin:$PATH"12:56
masterasiaI would not know how to update the hash table manually12:56
tomreynhi! systemd-analyze blame lists NetworkManager-wait-online.service with 9 seconds on this 16.04 system. is this to be expected?12:57
tomreynit's an ethernet link with dchp configuration (via NM)12:58
ppftomreyn: sounds reasonable12:58
ppfit's 7.5 for me12:58
tomreynand for you, too, its the one single task sticking out?12:58
ppfyes, by a large margin12:58
tomreynokay, thanks12:59
tomreyni guess a static configuration would be much faster12:59
tomreynbut actually the boot process is pretty fast for me.12:59
tomreynroughly 10 or 20 times faster than on the previous sytem ;)13:00
edge226Hello. I'm having an issue with jack+pulse audio. Someone @ pulseaudio told me that something was starting jackd but I see nothing in the startup files. Does anyone know what may be starting the jackd?13:00
tomreynedge226: what do you mean by 'startup files'?13:02
tomreynmaybe try this: sudo grep -rIi jack /etc13:02
scottjledge226: what version of ubuntu are you running? that's sort of important.13:03
edge226scottjl: 16.0413:03
geirhamasterasia: Well, then at some point later, after running phantomjs at least once, you've modified PATH in that session, which is why "which" doesn't find it13:03
scottjledge226: try "systemctl disable jackd && systemctl stop jackd"13:03
edge226scottjl: nothing.13:05
scottjledge226: try tomreyn's suggestion for the find13:05
scottjlotherwise some process is kicking it off manually.13:05
scottjlyou see jackd if you ps? who's the parent?13:05
edge226tomreyn: I think that gave me the piece of info I needed. I'll brb.13:07
edge226tomreyn: great I was able to find what was starting it and get things sorted. Thanks a lot :D13:12
tomreynedge226: welcome13:13
MustaKrakishanyone have the bug where pulseaudio starts twice on boot?13:15
MustaKrakishone owned by user the other root?13:15
x_i use deepin endelles and remix os13:15
* MustaKrakish like cream cheese13:16
cfhowlettnot sopported here MustaKrakish13:16
MustaKrakishpulseaudio?13:16
MustaKrakishon ubuntu 16.04?13:16
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cfhowlettnot sopported here x13:16
MustaKrakishhow is that NOT supported?13:16
cfhowlettsorry13:17
tomreynMustaKrakish: just in case this wasn't clear, i think cf howlett did not mean to address *you* but the *x_* person when saying 'not supported here'. pulseaudio surely is part of ubuntu and thus supported (if run on ubuntu).13:22
MustaKrakishtomreyn, I gathered13:22
tomreynok ;)13:22
MustaKrakishnow, any idea why pulseaudio would start twice?13:23
MustaKrakishI see it was a bug in previous versions back in 201413:23
tomreyni don't have any, no. you could provide more details, it might help people following the chat to help you.13:23
tomreynsuch as your ubuntu release version, whether you upgraded it, whether you use any non-default APT archives and whether you have installed software from other sources.13:24
MustaKrakishtomreyn, well, as i stated previously. 2 PIDs for pulseaudio show up when doing a ps ef | grep pulseaudio. One owned by root, the other my user. Killing the one owned by root fixes the issue, but on reboot it's back again13:24
tomreynalso, if it worked in the past: describe what changed between when it worked and now.13:25
MustaKrakishtomreyn, it's all vanilla13:25
tomreynvanilla what?13:25
MustaKrakishubuntu 16.0413:25
MustaKrakishkernel 4.4.0-7713:25
tomreynoh you said that, sorry13:25
tomreyn16.04.2 i guess?13:25
MustaKrakishyes13:26
tomreynhmm that's strange. are you starting X twice, too?13:26
BluesKajHey folks13:26
MustaKrakishtomreyn, nope13:26
tomreynand you're saying it was this way from the start, like from when you first installed ubuntu 16.04?13:27
MustaKrakishtomreyn, nope, only after a few updates did this come about. I actually purged pulseaudio and reinstalled it13:27
tomreyni assume you did not do funny things such as this? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/271197/pulseaudio-run-as-root13:30
MustaKrakishtomreyn, nope13:30
MustaKrakishtomreyn, that's a pretty dumb thing to do...13:31
MustaKrakishI'm either root, or regular user...not both, unless I use sudo13:31
tomreynindeed ;)13:31
tomreynso i really dont know, sorry...13:32
MustaKrakishtomreyn, it's almost identical to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-plugins/+bug/129642513:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1296425 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu Trusty) "pulseaudio is started twice - effectively making device management impossible." [High,Fix released]13:32
MustaKrakishSo i would imagine the bug was fixed in later releases13:32
MustaKrakish3 years later, it's back for me...13:32
tomreyn"[Regression Potential]: Low. " ;)13:34
MustaKrakishlol13:34
tomreynit's probably a different issue, though13:34
MustaKrakishand I'm certainly not installing some dodgy driver from github13:35
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zap0trying to upgrade and a dialog appears: "You have 1 broken pacakge, use 'broken' filter to locate it"13:45
zap0how do i di that?13:46
zap0do that/13:46
alpha_zap0: package manager -> edit -> software sources -> maintenance -> fix mergelist problem -> clear ...update13:48
zap0ok,  the "software updater" keeps interupting, and now wants to reboot.     it seems to be trapped in some type of loop13:50
compdocI usuauly update by command line13:51
zap0i don't see a edit -> software sources.    could that be  Settings -> Repositories ?13:52
zap0found it... it's Settings -> Filters.13:53
zap0i think i applied the filter..  it's saying zero broken.    :(13:54
Guest54037hi i have this error -http://pasteboard.co/1rAgG0TF8.jpg , run live ubntu fsck /dev/sda1: clean, 1749546/7028736 files, 25566426/28084224 blocks13:54
zap0compdoc, is command line update fairly easy?13:55
compdoczap0, pretty easy. and its always more up to date13:56
wiehan_#ubuntu14:00
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zap0the updater app seems to be running again now.  it failed last time, does this mean it's going to try to download everything again?14:00
wiehan_I just formatted an SD card to ext4 with Gparted - no issue there. But now, even after mounting (unmounting / remounting) the drive, I can't copy anything to the drive.14:00
compdocit shouldnt d/l everything. just the things that werent d/l before14:01
zap0ok14:01
TruckinAlongHello all14:02
wiehan_Why would I not have write permissions to a drive I just formatted?14:02
zap0the 'do you want to upgrade' confirmation dialog is larger than the screen... i can't see any of the buttons... how do click them?14:04
compdoctry the command line. just open a term window14:04
_val_hey guys. On 14.04LTS I want to install the latest open-vm-tools. The latest I mean 10.x  Any hint?14:04
zap0why isn't the window re-sizeable?14:05
compdocnot everything is14:05
compdocsounds like your screen resolution isnt optimal14:06
zap0it's a high as it goes14:06
Sparrow__Valfor, Have a system backup handy14:08
Sparrow___val_,14:08
Sparrow__What is eol on that14:09
_val_Sparrow__: Linux ubuntu 4.4.0-31-generic #50~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 13 01:07:32 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux14:09
_val_This is a test system. Though I installed 9.4.x but this is not desired.14:10
zap0lol, the very first google result when i put in "do you want to upgrade"  is the bug.. from 2012.. still not fixed.14:10
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Sparrow__!eol14:11
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:11
_val_Sparrow__: On 18 October 2013, it was announced that Ubuntu 14.04 would be dubbed "Trusty Tahr".[192][193]14:13
RonaldJWhen I use mail from the shell it sends the mail like its from root@unknown. How can I change that?14:13
_val_root@ubuntu:~# lsb_release -c14:14
_val_Codename:trusty14:14
compdocRonaldJ, what did you install that sends mail?14:14
tomreyn_val_: 14.04 lts is still supported, but not your micro version of it14:15
tomreynit looks like you dont install updates regularly14:15
tomreyn14.04.1 is ooold,14.04.5 is current+14:15
RonaldJcompdoc it´s default Debian functionallity functionality.14:15
_val_tomreyn: let me have a look at that14:16
compdoccant say about Debian, but I always have to install nullmailer14:17
tomreyn_val_: lsb_release -d14:17
_val_tomreyn: Description:Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS14:18
_val_I actually have the .514:18
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tomreyn_val_: but your kernel is almost a year old14:19
tomreynmaybe you just never rebooted14:19
_val_tomreyn: that's uhmm bit complicated.. I'm using packer and writing yml templates14:19
_val_"iso_url": "{{user `mirror`}}/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.5-server-amd64.iso",14:19
tomreyn_val_: i don't know what packer is and how it related to writing yml files, but if rebooting is complicated then you're doing something wrong14:20
_val_tomreyn: It's actually a brand new install14:20
tomreynwithout updates?14:21
_val_just a sec, running upgrade14:21
tomreyni have not checked but i'm pretty sure this kernel is outdated14:21
_val_update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-31-generic14:21
sh0thello guys: why is it that Xorg with lightdm is constantly using 85% of my cpu14:21
sh0t?14:21
tomreyn!info linux-image-generic trusty14:22
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.117.127 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 30 kB14:22
implitehow do i find my chat logs in hexchat?14:27
implitei want to read an old message but i cant see it14:28
rizonzhow can I best debug a red screen in in preseed ?14:28
Sparrow__!logs14:28
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/14:28
rflemingimplite, ~/.config/hexchat/logs/14:28
impliteTY14:28
implitethat was the answer i was looking for14:28
Sparrow__if it is not in personal log it is always online14:29
rflemingimplite, they're by default sorted by <network>/<channel>.log14:29
impliteI dont haev a folder called logs14:29
implitehave*14:29
implitei have .config/hexchat but no logs14:29
rflemingimplite, check your preferences under Settings->Preferences, Chatting->Logging14:30
impliteWooo i think i found it14:30
implitein scrollback folder14:30
implitethen freenode14:30
implitelots of txt files here14:31
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impliteyeah i didnt have the option checked rfleming14:35
pavlosimplite: there is an irc_logging = 0 flag in .config/hexchat/hexchat.conf (if 1 it saves logs, it 0 no logging)14:35
implitei just checked it now14:35
implitethanks!14:35
implitewoo14:36
impliteill look there too14:36
implitein that file pavlos it is a configuration file14:37
implitei have it 1 now14:37
implitethanks!14:37
impliteThis is so much better than mirc chat stuff14:38
impliteimo14:38
implitecan you fileshare still with irc?14:39
PipeItToDevNullimplite, Yes, but many people and channels disable DCC14:39
implitewow so cool14:40
PipeItToDevNullThere are also fun commands, like you are running hexchat on a 4.4 kernel14:40
implitesomeone checking my version of chat or something?14:40
ppfusing isc-dhcp v6 server, is it possible to automatically obtain the current prefix from the router, instead of statically configuring it?14:42
rflemingimplite, well there's your problem :)14:43
impliteit would be funny if you could tell me what specs my computer had14:43
implitewith that command14:44
rflemingimplite, I don't think your scrollback logs will go far enough14:44
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impliterfleming: you are right14:44
implitei didnt have much in there14:44
implitebut there was some old messages saved14:44
implitefrom other people14:44
implitewow so many quits14:45
implitecrazy14:45
impliteinternet go down???14:45
impliteWow14:45
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impliteWhat is going on why so many quits and rejoins lol???14:47
ppfthat's a netsplit14:48
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pavlosimplite: you can hide those joins/quits, right click on the channel tab, settings, hide14:49
implitepavlos: thank you ill try that14:50
impliteAhhhhhh much better14:50
implitelolol14:50
ericnoanthere is something happening14:52
implite?14:52
ubuntu_i have this problem - Assertion failed in _nih_error_raise_system  http://pasteboard.co/1rAgG0TF8.jpg im now in live ubuntu is possible to fix this chroot or somethink14:53
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rizonzanyone preseeding 17.04 ? it cannot find the package puppet during finish but it can after it14:57
tomreynubuntu_: have you done a web search on this message?14:58
ubuntu_tomreyn:  yes this is simmilar error https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221195214:58
ubuntu_but dont found how to fix it from live14:58
PipeItToDevNullJesus, my VPS took a dive14:58
tomreynubuntu_: which ubuntu version? fully patched?14:59
ubuntu_14.04.114:59
ubuntu_yes is updated14:59
tomreynubuntu_: 14.04.1 is very much outdated. 14.04.5 is supported only15:00
tomreynubuntu_: so update, and come back if it still happens15:00
ubuntu_hm mayby i have it  - i install updates but not 16.04 (have some problem with processor)15:00
ubuntu_how to update from live15:01
ubuntu_chroot ?15:01
tomreynubuntu_: if you'd install updates you'd be on 15.04.5 now15:01
tomreyn*14.04.5, sorry15:01
tomreynyou could update in a chroot, yes. or do it on the live system if it still boots fine15:01
ubuntu_i try install 15.04 but like i say - in thil compoter have some processor problem - freeze , so i still on 14.04 - but its lts - is supported15:05
rizonzcan I simply do normal commands in the preseed console ?15:07
tomreynubuntu_: no no don't try 15.04, this was a typo. my point is that you are on an old ubuntu 14.04 sub-release (14.04.1). but i just checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases and it's actually supported until april 2019. so i was wrong there, sorry.15:09
tomreynubuntu_: which kernel version do you have though?15:09
ubuntu_but i cant update now - system is dead - i cant log to it, i need help to run it15:09
ubuntu_im on live system15:09
ubuntu_ok i must restart15:10
tomreyni understand. so mount, dev, dev/pts, sys, proc and chroot it15:10
fadaviplease someone help me to solve these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24498883/15:12
tomreynfadavi: a web search for the first error message shows up this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/771899/pcie-bus-error-severity-corrected15:15
tomreynactually that was a web search for "8086:a114" - the problematic pci device15:16
promantiaasgffhsaf15:17
tomreynpromantia: are you looking for help with keyboard configuration then?15:17
ubuntu_cos zle robie - https://pastebin.com/U9C3beKB15:17
fadavitomreyn: thank you. i'll try it now.15:17
tomreynubuntu_: are you working in a VM / container?15:19
ubuntu_no15:20
ubuntu_this is live15:20
ubuntu_ubuntu15:20
ioriaubuntu_, try to mount /run15:20
tomreynwell it could be a live VPS15:20
tomreynanyway, without name resolution / networking you wont get to download updates15:22
fadavitomreyn: thank you again. adding "pci=nomsi" works!15:22
ubuntu_ok i add nameserwers and now work15:22
fadavinow, journalctl output changes to: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24499034/15:23
tomreynfadavi: :) great.15:23
ubuntu_now i have this http://paste.ubuntu.com/24499049/15:25
ioriaubuntu_, exit chroot and use this : for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done15:26
tomreynand review your PPAs, since at least one of the no longer exists15:27
tomreynand others may still exist but no longer get updates, making you sit on outdated versions15:28
ioriaubuntu_, precise 12.04 ppa15:28
fadavitomreyn: can you help me again? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24499034/15:29
tomreynfadavi: what do you need helk with?15:29
tomreyn*helP15:30
amundsenhi15:30
fadavitomreyn: to solve my boot errors! now errors are: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24499034/15:30
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mikeymopfadavi: are you trying to pair witha bluetooth device before you rebooted15:31
fadavimikeymop: no, i dont.15:32
tomreynfadavi: which ubuntu version is this again? lsb_release -d15:33
fadavitomreyn: 17.0415:33
tomreynoh, i have no experience with this one.15:34
promantia:-$cxghdhd15:36
tomreynif you care enough to work around the TPM initialization issue you could either disable it in your bios / uefi or you could blacklist the module15:36
fadavitomreyn: whats TPM?15:37
amundseni have a question about how ubuntu is built. in 17.04 for example, they choose packages from debian testing in this moment?15:37
tomreynfadavi: "trusted platform module", a chip meant for restricting what can be done on a system.15:38
fadavitomreyn: i think, cannot disable it in my BIOS settings.15:39
naccamundsen: usually unstable15:40
naccamundsen: and it depends on developers to do merges, etc.15:40
wafflejockamundsen, https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/4nk2at/opinion_debian_testing_vs_ubuntu/15:42
amundsennacc, in regular releases (non lts) updates are only security issues or bug fixes are also uopdated ?15:42
wafflejocknacc, believe for the most part packages are only updated for security fixes typically versions aren't just bumped for new features that I've noticed/seen in the past15:43
wafflejocker sorry amundsen not naac15:43
naccamundsen: all releases are treated the same, basically15:43
naccamundsen: versions are rarely bumped once released15:44
naccamundsen: and both bugfixes and security fixes are released15:44
naccamundsen: for packages in main, ubuntu-security does the latter15:44
naccamundsen: the former is done by people filing bug reports and people working on them15:44
amundsenthanks a lot15:44
amundsen;)15:44
fadavitomreyn: as i guessed, there's no Option called "TPM" in my BIOS settings. anyway, i disabled Secure Boot, before. Secure Boot != TPM?15:45
tomreynfadavi: no, those are different mechanisms15:46
fadavitomreyn: :(15:46
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tomreynfadavi: is there any actual problem caused by these logged messages or are you just trying to make the boot log look nice?15:46
ovalseven8When will Thunderbird update be available?15:50
ovalseven8https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2017-13/15:50
ovalseven8Many critical vulnerabilities15:50
ppfovalseven8: probably soonish?15:50
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fadavitomreyn: i've a couple of problems in Ubuntu with my new laptop (ASUS N552V-A). such as: (1) rebooting results a blank screen (2) can't boot the laptop, when switched to Intel graphics (3) Ubuntu boots too slow against Windoors! etc.15:51
ovalseven8ppf: 52.1 was released two days ago15:51
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fadavitomreyn: i thaught, fixing the boot procedure may be helpful15:52
xanguaovalseven8: Ubuntu uses the ESR release of thunderbird if that's what you ask15:52
ppfovalseven8: yes, that version isn't likely to go into the repos right now15:52
ppfbut the vulnerabilities have been fixed15:52
ppfhttps://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3233-1/15:52
ovalseven8ppf: I guess that are different issues15:54
RaptorJesusPipeItToDevNull no I didn't15:54
pavlosfadavi: try booting with nomodeset ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/790145/16-04-dont-load-on-asus-n552vw15:54
PipeItToDevNullRaptorJesus, What did I do?15:54
fadavipavlos: thanks, i'll try it now.15:54
ppfovalseven8: you're right, that update is a couple of days old15:55
ppfit'll take the security team a few days to backport the fixes/receive the esr update15:56
fadavipavlos: after adding "nomodeset", booted in low graphic mode, and also, cant login in lightdm; after i entered my password and hited Enter, laptop screen went blank and again went to lightdm login screen...16:02
ppffadavi: check .xsession-errors or lightdm's own logs16:03
fadavippf: .xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24499235/16:04
marethi everyone, Is there some way how to set ubuntu into some kind of saving mode, during night? I want to run my pc during the night for some process and I was hoping that turning off things like GUI might help with energy consumption16:06
maretPlan B is to install separate light distor for that16:06
zap0yesterday i was on 12.04..    3 or 4 upgrades later..  am i on the latest now, 17.04 zesty?16:07
ppfmaret: turn of the monitor16:07
ppfzap0: cat /etc/*-release16:07
fadavimaret: if you dont need graphical interface, boot your PC to a TTY session at night.16:08
ppfbut the powersaving will be minimal16:08
zap0maret, what ppf said + turn on your screen saver to blank.16:08
maretthanks for the tips would installing ubuntu server version help in any meaningful way?16:09
nacczap0: `lsb_release -d` will tell you the release you are on16:09
nacczap0: also, why did you go from an LTS to a non-LTS?16:09
ppfmaret: actually, a lot of people could be interested in results. if you try this, make sure to run powermeasurements and report the results!16:09
donofrioanything like guilinks on ubuntu - http://links.twibright.com/features.php ?16:09
tomreynmaret: running ubuntu-server is pretty similar to switching the desktop to a tty session only. so no, not really.16:10
tomreynmaret: if you really want to save on power at night, switch off the main system and run some lighter (arm?) hardwar einstead.16:11
ppfdonofrio: elinks?16:11
kostkonmaret, even better, tell ubuntu to turn your monitor off. Ubuntu will probably refresh the gui much less frequently if it knows that there is not an active monitor to draw on16:11
zap0nacc how is going to a non-LTS detremental?16:12
nacczap0: given that you only upgraded from 12.04 just now -- you need to upgrade every 9 months16:12
fadavimaret: use a RPi at night :D16:12
nacczap0: also the upgrade process, unless you tell it to, won't let you go to a non-LTS from LTS16:13
zap0nacc, i didn't choose to stay/start at 12,  it was just what this hardware had installed.16:13
maretfadavi: heh problem is i need to use my SATA harddrives heh16:13
maretanyway a lot of good tips here! thanks a lot16:14
ppfzap0: flat reinstall might have saved you some time then :)16:14
ppfeither way, if the upgrades worked, perfect!16:14
zap0maret, what kostkon said +  if it's a more modern (digital) monitor connection, and not dumb old VGA.. turning the monitor off would signal to the OS not to draw stuff16:14
ppfmaret: nevertheless, the power you save by stuff like that is only a fraction of what the spinning disks consume16:15
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zap0maret, use a ARM SBC!16:16
platzdo i have to do something special to get ipv6+netowrkmanager working?  seems my setup is broken ootb16:17
zap0install a moonbeam collector (like a night-solar panel). and power it from that ;)16:18
ppfi have a network storage server at home. 50% of its idle power goes to the disks16:18
ppfplatz: nothing special. what's broken?16:18
platzi was able to connect to wifi that supported ipv6 but apps could not resolve dns queries16:19
platzit seemed like i had an ipv6 addr though16:19
ppfpaste the output of `ip addr`16:19
zap0if it's using ipv6, would not the DNS also need to be ipv6 ?16:20
ppfyes16:20
platzah, i'm not at the wifi location anymore.  i'll have to debug it when i go back to that cafe16:20
ppfyou can see that in the nm-applet's Connection Info16:20
ppfand check dmesg for Duplicate Address fails16:20
platzwill do, thanks16:21
ppfplatz: pretty tricky for us to help debug it then ;)16:21
platzyeah, i asked then too but no responses then ;) just a sanity check if was missing a pkg16:21
platzwill try again in several days16:21
transhumanhi for yakety where is libqt4*? do they exist? is there an alternative?16:28
kazuma_desuhi16:29
kazuma_desui replaced archlinux on my pc with ubuntu 16.0416:29
ppfgood choice!16:30
kostkontranshuman, it's all there i pressume http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libqt4&searchon=names&suite=yakkety&section=all16:30
ppf!info libqt4 yakkety16:30
ubottuPackage libqt4 does not exist in yakkety16:30
ppf!info libqt4* yakkety16:31
ppflooks like i can't ubottu today16:31
transhumankostkon sorry to be specific libqt4-core  libqt4-gui16:32
zap0how would i get my laptop's touchpad/mouse  to work?     i USB mouse works fine, but not the built in touchpad16:32
ppftranshuman: they don't exist anymore16:32
BluesKajppf, it's the * that doesn't get parsed16:33
ppfthey where only dummies16:33
ppf!info libqtgui416:33
ubottulibqtgui4 (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 GUI module. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.8.7+dfsg-7ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 4250 kB, installed size 12695 kB16:33
ppfBluesKaj: yea, i figured :)16:33
BluesKajI know that from personal experience :-)16:34
zhanxis there away to disable the hotkeys on my laptop? the reverse is glitching alot on me16:36
EriC^^zhanx: xev & xmodmap can help with that16:37
zap0what simple app can i use to test the laptop webcam?16:38
EriC^^zap0: cheese16:38
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_Gold_Wolf_hi16:38
ducasseEriC^^: xmodmap is deprecated and should not be used, been replaced by setxkbmap and xkbcomp16:40
zap0me installs cheese16:40
zhanxducasse: still put me on the right path and its fixed now, thanks EriC^^16:41
u0_a112waddup16:42
ducassezhanx: just a note, as it can yield unexpected results :)16:42
EriC^^ducasse: ah thank you16:43
EriC^^zhanx: np :)16:43
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zhanxducasse: basically I never remap my keyboards and the xmodmap failing due to deprecated got me the right search term to find the settings for it16:45
zap0EriC^^, works good!  thank you.16:45
EriC^^zap0: great, no problem16:46
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maddawgs16:47
pavlosfadavi: are you booting 17.04? I cannot find any solution online16:52
fadavipavlos: yes16:52
transhumanwhat packages does libqt4-core and libqt4-gui install (I am trying to patch a script16:53
ducassetranshuman: it's actually 'libqtgui4'. the -core package does not exist in yakkety afaict16:55
pavlosfadavi: can you try a 16.04 live just to test? I have not played with 17.0416:56
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drpresidentdoes anyone know why install broadcom-sta-dkms woul causes freezing at the login screen?16:58
drpresidentubuntu 16.0416:59
BluesKajdrpresident, how do you know it's broadcom-sta-dkms?16:59
drpresidentbecause I installed ubuntu and it boots, install only broadcom and it freezes17:00
drpresidentthen when I uninstalled it it works again17:00
Sparrow__!broadcom17:01
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx17:01
rflemingGrettings everyone!  I can't seem to get Ubuntu-GNOME to turn the displays off when the screen locks.  I'm using 17.04 with nvidia-375... and have two displays daisy-chained to a GeForce GTX 750 Ti (GM107) via DisplayPort 1.217:02
rflemingworks fine with Nouveau though17:02
rfleminganyone with ideas?17:02
BluesKajdrpresident, perhaps it's the wrong driver, which bcm chip does lspci show?17:03
Sparrow__Did you get it from here   http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=broadcom-sta-dkms17:04
drpresidentSparrow__: no I installed with apt-get17:04
drpresidentim gonna try this bcmwl-kernel-source17:05
drpresidentsee if that makes a difference17:05
sooprflemming: https://askubuntu.com/questions/109487/access-more-options-via-gnome-power-manager17:05
drpresidentso that worked17:11
transhumanthanks ducasse kostkon ppf17:11
Sparrow__Great17:16
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AdnolHello!17:20
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vltHello. How can I trigger that what happens when I plug in a USB drive with a file system from the command line? How to mount it to /media/$USER/$LABEL?17:39
EriC^^!udev | vlt17:40
EriC^^vlt: you can use udev to run a command when it gets plugged i17:40
EriC^^*in17:40
vltEriC^^: I don’t want to run it when it’s plugged in. It was already plugged in but with a different user currently "active" (on X). Now I sudo umounted it from /media/guest...  But how can I trigger exactly what would have happened if I myself had been the "active" user?17:42
Cecehi everyone17:43
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Guest9247okay hi17:43
kostkonGuest9247, hi17:43
EriC^^vlt: gvfs-mount -d /dev/sdxY17:44
Guest9247how are you doing17:44
Guest9247hello17:44
Guest9247how are you doing?17:45
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naccGuest9247: this is the ubuntu support channel, not for general chitchat17:45
Guest9247for me it is a general chitchat17:46
vltEriC^^: Thanks.17:47
EriC^^vlt: no problem17:47
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vltEriC^^: Yes, problem :-D   That command seems to hang.17:50
EriC^^vlt: is it unmounted? you replaced xY with the disk and partition right?17:51
vltEriC^^: Nothing in dmesg, nothing suspicious in top.17:51
vltEriC^^: Yes, unmounted. And I used /dev/sda1 which blkid listed as my fs.17:52
EriC^^try "strace -p $(pgrep gvfs-mount)" in another terminal17:53
vltEriC^^: strace: attach: ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, ...): Operation not permitted17:55
vltEriC^^: I’m the very same user and there’s only one gvfs-mount proc17:55
dertysuothHi i am new to ubuntu and i recently installaed ubuntu server 17.04 on one of my machines and i have been attempting to get it to connect via its wifi dongle and i havnt been able to get the donlge to work. Would anyone be able to help yme figure this out ?17:55
vltEriC^^: dmesg lists my attempts to strace: ptrace of pid 6804 was attempted by: strace (pid 6838)17:56
dertysuothHi i am new to ubuntu and i recently installaed ubuntu server 17.04 on one of my machines and i have been attempting to get it to connect via its wifi dongle and i havnt been able to get the donlge to work. Would anyone be able to help yme figure this out ?17:58
EriC^^vlt: try with sudo17:59
chris0000c18:08
dertysuothHi i am new to ubuntu and i recently installaed ubuntu server 17.04 on one of my machines and i have been attempting to get it to connect via its wifi dongle and i havnt been able to get the donlge to work. Would anyone be able to help yme figure this out ?18:09
mikeymopdertysuoth: first step would be to idenfity the wireless chipset used18:14
mikeymopbecause it is usb i believe you would see under lsusb18:14
dertysuothi rand that and it pulled it back up with a list of devices18:15
dertysuothasustek computer inc is my dongle18:15
mikeymopneedmore18:15
mikeymopcan you18:15
Guest22565guten abend ich möchte eine vpn verbindung herstellen und habe dafür den openvpn installiert . wir benutzen bei der arbeit den cisco vpn und da ich neu bei linux bin18:15
mikeymoplsusb | nc termbin.com 999918:15
mikeymopgive us the link18:15
dertysuothits saying the name or service is not known18:16
dertysuothwhen i type that in18:16
dertysuoththe machine itself isnt connected to internet or else i wouldnt be able to talk on here18:17
elkychris0000: did you need help?18:23
qwerkusHello. Latest LTS kernel update (to 4.4.0-77) freezes my keyboard upon boot + shows a lower resolution. Does anyone know about this issue ?18:25
elkyqwerkus: are you able to make a liveusb and test if it works on that?18:26
mikeymopdertysuoth: try opening additional drivers18:26
mikeymopnvm18:26
tarzeauqwerkus: do you have the kernel extra package?18:26
qwerkusnope. 4.4..0-77 also crashes on live usb. I'm currently running x.0.75 kernel, which is humming fine18:27
jackmcbarnwhy does http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ not have a 4.11 build? every prior build has been up within a day of release18:27
qwerkustarzeau. NO - good input. Fixing already18:27
tarzeauqwerkus: also made me go mad!18:28
qwerkusrebooting.. while crossing fingers.18:28
ubuntu-matehelp please18:30
qwerkusnah. Still no working18:30
BluesKajubuntu-mate, just ak your question18:31
BluesKajask18:31
qwerkuskernel extra packages fixed the keyboard issue, but now I run into a black screen of death. Probably a graphic card related problem. God I hate those...18:31
ubuntu-mateI shut -off and my ubuntu mate does not work18:31
dertysuothmikeymop: hey i made it back into the channel if you are still able to help18:32
elkyqwerkus: what graphics card?18:32
qwerkusnvidia gtx 1060. Weired things is: it works flawlessay with kernel 4.4.0-75. And when booting 4.4.0-77: bam - black screen!18:33
EduCatORhello Ubuntu! Anyone able to possibly help me with the resize2fs command??18:36
EduCatORi need education!18:36
qwerkusEduCatOR: google "resize2fs example howto"18:38
qwerkusfastest way to learn: examples18:38
dertysuothhi i am new to ubuntu server and i am trying to get my wifi dongle to work and cant get it ot connect18:39
qwerkusdertysuoth: what model is it? Do you know if I is supposed to work under linux ?18:39
dertysuothi have had it working on ubuntu 16.04 ubuntu mate18:39
dertysuothi jsut cant figure it out with server18:40
EduCatORqwerkus i have been looking at examples but i just dont get it18:40
EduCatORi feel pretty dumb lol18:40
dertysuothqwerkus: i also finished reading te question in its entiretac1900 USB AC68 y its an asus18:42
qwerkusdertysuoth: AFAIK networ applet is missing on ubuntu server, which means you have to setup the dongle manually with iwconfig18:42
dertysuothqwerkus: so how would i go about doing that ?18:42
qwerkussimple tutorial: https://linuxconfig.org/setup-wireless-interface-with-wpa-and-wpa2-on-ubuntu18:44
dertysuothi will look through this thanks18:44
qwerkusEduCatOR: you can always use the gui from gparted to help you out :)18:44
EduCatORim not sure what that means :) but i will take a look18:45
EduCatORit is a VM on a xen server18:45
MaxiReglisse#georchestra-psc18:54
roothorickIs there a way to get a newer Xorg intel driver on 16.04 other than xorg-edgers?18:54
Doow_Hi, I'm having some trouble getting cuda/render device gpu working under ubuntu (for blender of course) I'm using nvidias proprierty drivers and I've tried following the guide here: https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/7485/enabling-gpu-rendering-for-cycles but no gpu/cuda option shows up in user preferences18:55
kostkonroothorick, when did you install 16.04?18:55
roothorickoh goodness18:56
ducasse!hwe | roothorick18:57
ubotturoothorick: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack18:57
kostkonroothorick, or let me rephrase, which iso did you use, 16.04, 16.04.1 or 16.04.2?18:57
dertysuothhi i am new to ubuntu server and i am trying to get my wifi dongle to work and cant get it ot connect18:57
roothorickthe only Intel-related HWE has a note about not using it on new enough hardware18:57
roothorickthis is an Ivybridge i5 so it's new enough18:58
roothorickwhat driver do I want to be using with an i5 then?18:59
belgianguyhello, I'd like to run Ubuntu on my Aourus Ryzen system, but my installer keeps throwing "irq vector 07" errors, is this related to the kernel or is this related to the BIOS?18:59
hplctrying to understand ufw "applications" part, how is it meant to work?, ufw app list shows merely "CUPS"19:00
dertysuothhi i am new to ubuntu and on one of my machines me and my brother are trying to set up the wifi dongle on it. We are using ubuntu server on this particular machine and cannot seem to get it to connect to the internet even though the dongles driver is installed and its being read by the computer19:00
hplcisnt the list supposed to contain every installed application?19:00
ducasseroothorick: i've used the hwe stack for xenial on later models than that without problems19:01
roothorickI removed xserver-xorg-video-intel, looks like X is now using a "modeset" driver, and I still have hardware GL19:03
roothorickand that may have actually fixed my problem19:04
dertysuothhi i am new to ubuntu and on one of my machines me and my brother are trying to set up the wifi dongle on it. We are using ubuntu server on this particular machine and cannot seem to get it to connect to the internet even though the dongles driver is installed and its being read by the computer19:04
TorgeirHow can i make Ubuntu Mate more touchfriendly?19:05
leolegato.19:05
leolegatoanyone here?19:05
ioriabelgianguy, you know how to set a kernel boot parameter ?19:06
belgianguyioria, yes, but I've heard mixed reports about turning off acpi19:06
ioriabelgianguy, i see, try  modprobe.blacklist=pinctrl-amd19:06
roothorickI am, or at least was, having an issue where some games, quitting and starting a second time would crash gnome-shell, which would try to restart and crash again, dropping me to the gdm login. After logging in again, trying to launch the game would still crash gnome-shell19:06
belgianguy(if that's the one you're alluding to) :)19:06
ioriabelgianguy, nope, this :  modprobe.blacklist=pinctrl-amd19:07
belgianguyioria, ahh, that is new information,19:07
leolegatobelgianguy, do you know how to use playonlinux?19:08
dertysuothhi i am new to ubuntu and on one of my machines me and my brother are trying to set up the wifi dongle on it. We are using ubuntu server on this particular machine and cannot seem to get it to connect to the internet even though the dongles driver is installed and its being read by the computer19:08
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ducasse!patience | dertysuoth19:08
belgianguyleolegato, err, I usually use WINE19:08
ubottudertysuoth: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/19:08
belgianguy(and try to avoid it when there's a native version)19:09
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dertysuothsorry bout that19:09
mas_hello19:09
Sparrow__how did you install the dongle driver19:10
ioriadertysuoth, if is server, you have a /etc/network/interface  set .... so run 'ip a' get the dongle interface name, and create an entry in /etc/network/interface19:10
dertysuothSparrow__: my brother is about to tell you how he did it19:12
dertysuothSparrow__:  hes in her e19:12
bumblefuzzhe used: git clone -b driver-4.3.21 https://github.com/diederikdehaas/rtl8814AU.git19:13
bumblefuzzmake and install19:13
Sparrow__Sorry cant help you untangle that19:14
dertysuothSparrow__:  thanks for looking anyways19:15
mas_can u see me?19:15
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Sparrow__does lsusb even show it?19:15
dertysuothSparrow__:  ya it does19:15
Sparrow__good luck, not my area19:16
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tapaniki have ubuntu 16.04,  is this ok19:20
tapanikone month using19:20
tapaniki have some audio issues19:21
dertysuothSparrow__:  thanks anyways19:21
tapaniklogiteh 2.0 speakers bluetooth19:21
tapanik3,5" jack works19:21
tapanikbut sound gooes off when listen music19:22
tapanikplug off and plug in works again19:22
mikeymopdid you switch your audio source after connecting bt speakers19:23
tapanikanybodu audio problems19:23
tapanikyes, i did19:23
tapanikanalog19:23
tapanikpulseaudio19:23
sascha_hi19:23
dertysuothmikeymop: hey i got termbin to work now btw19:23
tapanikc64, amiga pc mdos/win ows19:24
tapaniknow linux era19:24
mikeymopdertysuoth: oh you got online?19:24
dertysuothmikeymop: i plugged hard wire in i still need the dongle to wokr19:24
dertysuothwork19:24
tapanikcan cable be broken19:24
tapanikit' new19:24
tapaniklogiteht19:24
tapaniki have heard headset errors19:25
capum321hello19:25
tapanikubuntu19:25
capum321what one should consider use, between dpkg and gdebi ?19:25
tapanikilike  unity19:25
tapaniki have gnome too19:25
robotti^capum321: both works very well19:26
yaqubunity here19:27
tapaniksometimes no audio errors, like today many errors19:27
tapanikpor sound if turn on bluetooth19:27
tapaniki use jack19:27
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tapanikwindows7 bluetooth was ok to speakerrs19:28
amiriteis the md5 of binary files supposed to change when i create a debian package containing them?19:28
tapanikubuntu is faster and more trusted than windos 719:29
tapanikubuntu 16.0419:29
tapanik16gig ram19:29
amiritetapanik thats old news19:29
amiriteanswer my question before i hit you19:29
tapanikhit my ass19:29
tapanikplease19:29
tapanikbut sound is problem19:29
wiggmpkI upgraded from 16.04.2 to 17.04 and now I can't type a tilde in the terminal. What would cause this? How can I fix it? 'dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration' without success19:30
amiriteno, unless you are female and offer yourself to me in marriage19:30
tapanikubuntu and bluetooh19:30
dertysuothmikeymop: did you want me to still try to send the info19:30
tapanikim from finland19:30
tapaniklinus19:30
amiritedoes that mean you are female and offer yourself to me in marriage19:30
amiritei will take you as my second wife19:30
tapanikubuuntu 16.04 is best form ubuntu family19:31
tapanikfrom19:31
amiriteyou speak too much tapanik19:31
amiriteplease, someone besides tapanik speak19:32
tapaniki admit19:32
dertysuothhi i am new to ubuntu and on one of my machines me and my brother are trying to set up the wifi dongle on it. We are using ubuntu server on this particular machine and cannot seem to get it19:32
Southern_Gentlemdertysuoth, what chipset is that dongle using19:33
dertysuothhow would i tell u ?19:33
belgianguyioria, the IRQ vector 07 errors is still there19:33
dertysuothSouthern_Gentlem:  ? sorry i am ne w19:33
belgianguyso I guess I'll have to wait for a newer kernel to install then?19:33
statusfailedIs there a way I can install ld 2.26 via apt on Ubuntu 16.10 ?19:34
ioriabelgianguy, 17.04 ?19:34
amiritecan someone link me to a very quick tutorial or walkthrough for creating debian packages19:34
statusfailedI'm having problems with 2.2719:34
belgianguyioria, yes19:34
Southern_Gentlemdertysuoth, google and find out what chipset that dongle uses19:34
ioriabelgianguy, i heard of a custom build kernel fot that hw19:34
dertysuothkk19:34
statusfailedamirite: if you need a package in a hurry, check out fpm - it won't help you build them from scratch though19:34
amiritei dont need a package in a hurry19:35
statusfailedah, sorry then!19:35
amiritei need to debug why this dpkg plugin i'm using is packaging files with a different md519:35
dertysuothSouthern_Gentlem: https://github.com/diederikdehaas/rtl8814AU.git19:35
belgianguyioria, yeah, 1.10-3 or something19:35
amiriteif the cause is the plugin or if the cause is intrinsic to the debian package build tools19:35
dertysuothwhat ever chipset this driver uses19:35
belgianguy4.10-3* ioria19:35
dertysuothim still checking online too19:35
ducassestatusfailed: upgrade to 17.04? there's only a month or so left of support for 16.10 anyway19:35
statusfailedducasse: what's the ld version?19:36
statusfailedwait I can google that19:36
ducassestatusfailed: 2.2819:36
statusfailedheh, thanks19:36
statusfailedmight as well upgrade then !19:36
ioriabelgianguy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/167136019:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1671360 in linux (Ubuntu) "System doesn't boot properly on Gigabyte AM4 motherboards (AMD Ryzen)" [Medium,Confirmed]19:37
ducassestatusfailed: you should do so pretty soon anyway, so probably :)19:37
belgianguyioria, yeah, that's what I'm experiencing19:37
belgianguyit's a clean system so I could give it a whirl19:38
dertysuothSouthern_Gentlem:  RTL8814AU19:38
dertysuoththats the chipset19:38
statusfailedducasse: downloading as we speak :)19:39
transhumanhi! Is there  a way around this problem  unsupported GNU version! gcc versions later than 4.9 are not supported! Can I rollback gcc to an earlier version ? this is onl yackety19:43
yaqubUbuntu doesnt work on Ryzen? WTF AMD...19:43
faugusztinyaqub: it does19:44
faugusztinyaqub: but you need to install mainline kernel 4.11-rc19:44
yaqub            system doesnt boot on am4? ~~~~ ahh oh okay19:44
faugusztinyaqub: right now it means http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.11-rc8/19:44
yaqubgot it19:44
faugusztinyaqub: boot certainly works. it is just not really stable, it crashes in 1-2 hours. enough time to install minimum system and install the 4,11 kernel19:45
ioriabelgianguy,    try :   pinctrl-amd.blacklist=yes19:45
Alex-Zastenkinl19:45
faugusztinyaqub: right now i have uptime of 6 days after i upgraded my UEFI version last week19:46
belgianguyAourus motherboards still have an issue though19:46
belgianguyeven with latest BIOS (F3)19:46
yaqubyoure on ryzen?19:46
Alex-ZastenkinHi everione.)19:46
faugusztinyaqub: my ASUS PRIME X370 PRO lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500524/ as an example19:46
belgianguy(see the link ioria posted higher)19:47
faugusztin(still find it hilarious that he PCI ID's are not identified yet)19:47
yaqubi plan to make the move, just waiting to see what happens with vega so i can do it all at once19:47
Alex-ZastenkinIs someone from Russia?19:47
belgianguyioria, I'll go try that now :)19:47
faugusztinbelgianguy: don't call them Aourus. Call them by their real name - Gigabyte19:47
yaqubfaugusztin: lol19:48
yaqubidk why they would make a move to a new name, gigabyte is plenty well known and they make perfectly okay products19:48
yaqubit isnt like they have a bad wrap or something19:48
faugusztinyaqub: it is a branding, not manufacturer name19:49
yaqubi know that19:49
faugusztinyaqub: it is like if ASUS made Strix more prominent as name19:49
yaqubi know what it is19:49
amiriteyaqub19:49
amiritemen ayna ant19:49
yaqubi meant a new name for their "premium" line or whatever the fuck theyre marketing it as its stupid19:49
yaqubamirite, yes19:50
yaqub?19:50
amiritewaynak19:50
amiritefaynak19:50
amiriteanta yahoodie?19:50
yaqubanta yahoodie? wtf man chill19:51
yaqubusa19:51
amiriteyou have a potty mouth19:51
amiriteit's full of potty19:51
* amirite washes out yaqub's potty mouth19:51
yaqubokay, i used a cuss word and you just said kill all the jews19:52
amiriteo_O19:52
yaqubo_019:52
amirite¯\_(ツ)_/¯19:52
amirite¯\_(ツ)_/¯19:52
yaqubayn ant?19:54
amiriteana fe teezak19:54
pennTellerHi guys! Has anybody heard about doing GPU passthrough to a virtual machine with the latest kernel?19:54
tubalHello. Does anyone else notice Dashgetting laggy? Just now, I waited ~8 or 9 seconds for a response to Super + A. Is there any remedy? Maybe some cache that can be emptied?19:54
tomreynfaugusztin: i found with that an updated bios even 4.8 works19:54
faugusztintomreyn: not sure i want to play around with it19:55
yaqubamirite: i have a potty mouth?19:55
faugusztintomreyn: i had enough of crashes after 2-6 hours with pre-4.11 kernels19:55
tomreyni'm pretty sure i'm happy to ;)19:56
yaqubana fe teezak19:56
faugusztintomreyn: with 4.11-rc1 and newer i had 22 day, 8 day and 6 day uptime so far19:56
yaqubin'al yomak19:56
faugusztin(and reboots were only due hardware changes or bios updates)19:56
amiritewhat does in'al mean19:56
tomreynyaqub, amirite: please cut it out, both of you.19:56
tomreynthis does not belong on this channel19:56
amiritetomreyn you're just jealous19:56
amiritebecause we have mad skillz and you don't19:56
tomreynstop19:57
amiriteno u19:57
yaqubin'al yomak, i said curse the day you were born19:57
yaquband okay np tomreyn19:57
amiriteyaqub is a naughty boy19:57
yaqubyaqub is leaving have a good day guys19:57
amiritebye i luv u19:58
tomreynfaugusztin: glad to hear this!19:58
tomreyni'll stick to the hwe-edge kernel for now, currently .10, works for me.19:59
tomreynpennTeller: is this your actual question, whether someone heard about doing it?20:00
dertysuothhi i am new to ubuntu and on one of my machines me and my brother are trying to set up the wifi dongle on it. We are using ubuntu server on this particular machine and cannot seem to get it20:00
BigMaoHi everyone, I have a question about keyboard shortcuts - I currently have two input methods set up (English and Pinyin) and a hotkey to switch between them (Ctrl-Space).  However, Ctrl-Space is also what I use in Emacs to set the mark for text selections, and I never type Chinese in Emacs or in the terminal.  How do I make sure Ctrl-Space is not used to switch the input language in Emacs or the terminal??20:01
amiritetomreyn thats enough foul speak out of your mouth20:01
amiriteplease clean up your language or feel free to leave20:01
tomreyn!ops amirite20:01
amirite!ops tomreyn20:01
tuckdertysuoth: it will be dancing with dongle...20:02
dertysuothdoes anyone know how to install gnome onto ubuntu server 17.0420:03
dertysuoth?20:03
tomreyndertysuoth: do you intend to make your ubuntu-server a desktop system then?20:04
dertysuothtomreyn: ya we are trying to set it up for gpu mining and we heard its best to set it up as a server20:05
tomreyndertysuoth: the times when gpu mining bitcoins (i assume) with commodity hardware were of any use are long over.20:06
dertysuothtomreyn: we are mining altcoins20:07
dertysuothtomreyn: rather trying to learn how to do so20:07
tomreynah i don't know then. so what you said before seems contradictory. you plan to install a gui now but at the same time you say you think it makes more sense not to?20:07
BigMaoFixed! I just reconfigured the keyboard shortcut. Thanks20:08
dertysuothtomreyn: the only thing we cant get to work is the wifi dongle20:08
tomreyndertysuoth: so you'd actually prefer to keep it gui-less if the wifi dongle can be made to work, right?20:09
pennTellertomreyn: lol, no that is not my actual question.20:09
dertysuothtomreyn: we have tried, we have installed its drivers and everythign and the computer even reads it. but no connections20:09
dertysuothtomreyn: ye s20:09
tomreynpennTeller: then ask it ;)20:09
dertysuothtomreyn: do you know how to ge the wifi dongle to work cus i have asked a couple times some people tried to help but disappeared20:10
pennTellertomreyn: Can anybody point me in the right direction to get GPU passthrough working in a virtual machine in ubuntu 16.04?20:10
tomreynpennTeller: it's usually preferred here over polls, and more likely to get you an on topic reply.20:10
tomreyndertysuoth: which chipset is it?20:10
pennTellerCan anybody point me in the right direction to get GPU passthrough working in a virtual machine in ubuntu 16.04?20:10
tomreyndertysuoth: i assume "wifi dongle" refers to a usb connected wireless NIC?20:10
dertysuothtomreyn: RTL8814AU20:10
dertysuothyes20:11
tomreyndertysuoth: you said drivers are installed, did you install them or were they already working?20:11
dertysuothmy brother installed them20:11
dertysuothtomreyn: i can link you to what he did20:11
tomreyndertysuoth: how?20:11
tomreynplease do20:11
dertysuothtomreyn: https://github.com/diederikdehaas/rtl8814AU.git20:12
amiritewill an op please can tomreyn?20:12
amiritehe is using foul language20:12
tomreynamirite: you should proove that if you make such claims20:12
amiritejust scroll up20:13
amiriteyou said "dongle"20:13
sylhi all --- is there an online site which shows the number/names of ubuntu/canonical snap packages which currently exist?  Thanks! Ben20:13
tomreynamirite: i wont spend more time on you. find another way to waste your own.20:14
ducassesyl: uappexplorer.com can give you a searchable list20:14
dertysuothtomreyn: do you need any more info ?20:14
syloh yes i see that is really cool - Thanks ducasse :-)20:15
syl873 sbaos at current20:15
tomreyndertysuoth: i need to look a couple things up, please stand by. also how did you try to set up the connection?20:15
sylsnaps20:15
syl:-)20:15
dertysuothtomreyn: sorry i dont understand what you mean?20:16
tomreyndertysuoth: does iwconfig list the wireless interface?20:16
tomreyn'iwconfig'20:16
dertysuothtomreyn: yes it shows the wlx and the device name but it says acces point is not associates20:17
dertysuothassociated20:17
tomreyndertysuoth: install sm-cli then to configure and manage the interface and connect it to an access point20:18
dertysuothtomreyn: hey im moderatley new how do i do tat20:18
dertysuothtomreyn: that20:18
amiritedertysuoth: please do not talk to tomreyn20:18
amiritewe must boycott his potty mouth20:18
tomreyndertysuoth: use "iwlist <devicename> scanning" to list access points it could associate to.20:18
faugusztintomreyn: didn't you mean nm-cli ?20:19
tomreynfaugusztin: indeed, thank you, this was a typo20:19
amiritefaugusztin: tomreyn is a bad man20:19
dertysuothtomreyn: so ya it pulled alot of stuff up20:20
dertysuothtomreyn: i take it cells are what you wnat20:20
dertysuothwant20:20
belgianguyargh, I got into my grub settings once20:20
belgianguyand now it seems to always boot Ubuntu, I've been holding LShift for minutes20:20
faugusztindertysuoth: it is fedora help page, but command is same : https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Connecting_to_a_Network_Using_nmcli.html20:21
belgianguyand still it gets to the loading sreen with the 5 dots20:21
faugusztindertysuoth: see the section called Adding a Wi-Fi Connection20:21
tomreyndertysuoth: ao "nm-cli" is what you want to install to manage and configure the wireless interface. not "sm-cli" - i had a typo there.20:21
belgianguyare there any other ways to get into grub menu ?20:21
dertysuothtomreyn: i will do that i just dont know how to install it20:21
faugusztinbelgianguy: have you tried arrow keys (up/down) ?20:22
faugusztindertysuoth: isn't it installed by default ?20:22
belgianguyfaugusztin, not yet, I'll go and try those20:22
faugusztindertysuoth: i see nmcli on my minimalistic server install without gui\20:22
tomreynbelgianguy: holding down left shift should work normally, mabye check for caps lock. also you can ensure that the menu will show by editing /etc/default/grub and changing whether it's hidden or its timeout.20:23
tykaynhi folks20:24
sfdebugHi, i'm trying to connect to a RDP Windows server, but, my Remina isn't working, i think it's because this line on the .rdp file: LoadBalanceInfo:s:Cookie: mstshash=SFBeta#SFBeta_IN_020:24
sfdebugDoes anyone know how can i solve that?20:24
tykaynif you have any plan to diagnostic a failure at wakeup in ubuntu, mine freezes every time I want to wake it up20:24
tykayncrazy it still happens in 16.0420:24
compdocsfdebug, I have remmina installed and connect to many diff windows machines20:25
tykaynLinux ubuntu-P775DM3-G 4.8.0-46-generic #49~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 31 14:51:03 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux20:25
amiriteplease, nobody talk to tomreyn20:25
amiriteeverybody should put him on ignore20:25
sfdebugcompdoc, me too, but just on this machine that have this line on the .rdp file i can't connect...20:25
dertysuothtomreyn: hey i already have nm cli20:25
tomreyndertysuoth: right, sorry, it's no longer a separate package these days. i just learnt that myself20:26
tomreynso just run: sudo nmcli20:26
tomreynor even without sudo for now20:26
dertysuothit shows the device and lo and en2ps020:27
tomreynto understand how it works, read its man page: man nmcli20:27
tomreyndertysuoth: which device is your wireless device as listed in the iwconfig output?20:27
dertysuothtomreyn: it doesnt have an address under iwconfig20:29
dertysuothtomreyn: but it shows  one under nmcli20:29
tomreyndertysuoth: i'm asking what the device name is, not its ip or mac address20:29
dertysuothtomreyn:it also says unavailable20:29
dertysuothahh20:29
dertysuothone sec20:29
tomreyndo you have another way to connect to the internet from this system? like, through this ethernet interface you have there?20:30
dertysuothtomreyn:  the device name is the wlx number right ?20:30
dertysuothtomreyn:  i have it connected via ethernet atm so i can work on it20:30
dertysuothand get wifi working20:30
tomreyndertysuoth: very well. can you install "pastebinit" if you haven't?20:31
tomreyn!pastebinit | dertysuoth20:31
ubottudertysuoth: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com20:31
dertysuothwe have it installed20:31
tomreyniwconfig | pastebinit20:32
tomreyn^ pleae run this and paste the URL here20:32
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24500752/20:33
tomreyndertysuoth: that's the only output it made? i expected more.20:33
dertysuothtomreyn: thats weird the dongle kicked off20:34
dertysuothone sec20:34
tomreyndertysuoth: also, which ubuntu version is this? lsb_release -d20:34
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24500764/20:35
tomreynso ubuntu 17.04, thanks. in the future, you can paste single lines of output here directly.20:36
dertysuothtomreyn: did u wanna see the output for the nmcli too?20:37
dertysuothsorry haha my bad20:37
tomreynnext time you have a choice of getting a wireless NIC connected via usb or pcie, please choose pcie20:37
tomreyndertysuoth: sure, show nmcli as well20:37
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24500773/20:38
dertysuothwe only are trying usb because the pcie slots are for the gpus with the alcoin mining20:38
dertysuothi usually would for my normal computers20:38
gredjokcan I ask her about iptables?20:40
transhumanok so I tried export CXX=/usr/bin/g++-4.8 && export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.8 and it still tells me the version of gcc I am using it too new? Anyone, thanks20:41
rypervenchegredjok: Sure. What is your question/problem?20:42
justalex_hi20:43
SouthMoonPizza34hey how can i change chats in weechat?20:43
justalex_not sure20:43
tomreyndertysuoth: i see. well this device isnt really supported, yet. but the github repository you found there may help. there are two others i found which might be relevant: https://github.com/paspro/rtl8814AU (a fork from the one you are using), https://github.com/ulli-kroll/rtl8821au20:43
transhumanto clarify it tells me that gcc-4.6 is too new...20:43
gredjokrypervenche, I found a suspicious ip and blocked it with sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -d 45.25.04.12 -j REJECT , but every time I reboot the machine this rule disappears. How do I save the rule?20:43
justalex_i got a question20:44
tomreyndertysuoth: can you show "nmcli device show" and "nmi connectio show", too, please?20:44
transhumaniptables-save > /etc/network/iptables.rules20:44
justalex_I got a 32 GB usb20:44
justalex_and it does not connect to my ubuntu mate20:45
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24500817/20:45
justalex_what do i do?20:45
vex8ionHowdy... Was wondering if there was a way to fix this error.."W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_01.bin for module i915".?20:45
YankDownUndergredjok, That IP address is owned by ATT - the phone company  - is that your ISP?20:45
justalex_can anybody help20:46
YankDownUnderjustalex_, !ask20:46
gredjokYankDownUnder, that is a random ip20:46
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24500828/20:47
justalex_i tried !ask ubuntu but does not work20:47
tomreyndertysuoth: thanks for fixing my typos ;)20:47
vex8ionAny help is appreciated.20:47
justalex_it used to work fine20:47
YankDownUndergredjok, gredjok Are you using "gufw" as a GUI for your firewall?20:47
gredjoknope YankDownUnder20:48
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/2450083920:48
YankDownUndergredjok, http://dev-notes.eu/2016/08/persistent-iptables-rules-in-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus/20:48
dertysuothits all good i addded an extra one on there from the guid that dude sent20:48
transhumanvex8ion, its sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree20:49
gredjokwow thanks YankDownUnder i never though about googling, thinking the question would be more straightforward20:50
vex8iontranshuman: thank you20:50
transhumanhope thats the right package google search for the error if it doesnt fix it20:50
tomreyndertysuoth: this discusses how to connect to a wireless access point: https://nullr0ute.com/2016/09/connect-to-a-wireless-network-using-command-line-nmcli/20:50
YankDownUndergredjok, I use this page often because my memory is, um...not good...20:50
transhumananyone able to help with my issue?20:50
YankDownUndertranshuman, Issue?20:50
transhumanrepeat ... sorry for the repeat ...ok so I tried export CXX=/usr/bin/g++-4.8 && export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.8 and it still tells me the version of gcc I am using it too new? Anyone, thanks20:51
transhumanit says I am using gcc-620:51
tomreyntranshuman: what is "it"?20:51
YankDownUndertranshuman, ARGH...right...not my area...have you thought to ask in a "dev" channel?20:51
transhumanthis is on yackety20:51
vex8iontranshuman: Is this normal "Unable to locate package linux-firmware-nonfree" ?20:52
transhumannot sure why it wont pick up the gcc version i am specifying with the export gcc= command cc=20:52
amiriteplease transhuman20:52
amiritedo not talk to tomreyn20:52
amiritehe is not well behaved20:52
tomreyn^ ignore the troll20:53
transhumanits probably in another repository like the non-free repository vex8ion20:53
transhumansorry amirite didnt know20:53
YankDownUndervex8ion, In your /etc/apt/sources.list -> have you uncommented the "non free" and "partner" repos?20:53
dertysuothtranshuman:  there is any issue getting it to list the ssid networks20:53
YankDownUndertomreyn, It must be your haircut that caused the "troll" to troll...hmm...20:54
dertysuothtomreyn: sorry meant that for u20:54
transhumanwireless on ubuntu isnt my area...dont have any ubuntu machines on wireless dertysuoth sorry20:54
dertysuothsorry sent to wrong guy20:54
tomreyndertysuoth: so "nmcli device wifi list" shows nothing?20:54
vex8ionYankDownUnder: You effectively just lost me... I don't know20:55
dertysuothil pastbinit what it shows20:55
vex8iontranshuman: Thanks for trying to help me.20:55
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24500872?20:55
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24500872/20:55
dertysuothsorry20:55
transhumandertysuoth, is this on a laptop20:56
YankDownUndervex8ion, If "apt" is unable to locate a package - you *may* be able to FIND said package by enabling the extra repositories for ppa's by uncommenting the lines in the /etc/apt/sources.list (or through the GUI, whichever is easier)20:56
dertysuothno its on a desktop20:56
transhumanis the wireless switch turned on just check on the wireless router and if there is one on your wireless card on the desktop...just for shits and giggles20:56
tomreyndertysuoth: so "iwlist wlx2c4d5404a1c9 scanning" shows what?20:57
dertysuothone sec ill binit20:57
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24500886/20:58
faugusztintomreyn: that device naming is crazy :D20:58
vex8ionYankDownUnder: I think that may be above my abilities. I can generally find online, copy & paste code my KNOWLEDGE  stops there.20:58
tomreynfaugusztin: realtek's choice20:58
faugusztintomreyn: well that is actually udev, but still :)20:59
tomreynok ;)21:00
YankDownUndervex8ion, You're trying to get a hold of firmware...that is apparently NOT available...in the "Software Center" (or Synaptic) you can enable several repositories for PPA's that are NOT part of the "brown bag" install. This *should* resolve your issue. That shouldn't be "above your head" in the least.21:00
tomreyndertysuoth: so iwlist does see access points but nmcli does not, that's weirtd. i'm not sure why21:01
faugusztintomreyn: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/udev/udev-builtin-net_id.c -> wl = wlan, x = MAC address, rest is the mac address :)21:01
dertysuothtomreyn: ya so that where we are at haha21:01
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dertysuothtomreyn: when we nanoed into /etc/network/interfaces we put settings in could tye be in wrong21:03
tomreyndertysuoth: maybe it was a temporary issue? can you show "nmcli dev status" and "nmcli device wifi list" again?21:03
Dynamiiichi, ive got 2 ubuntu servers (1 14.04 and 1 on 16.04) when i SSH into them the 14.04 serv has tab-autocompletion whilst 16.06 doenst, any experience with it?21:03
vex8ionYankDownUnder: No, that I can understand enough to see if I can find the PPA. Pretty sure it is my printer. Thank you for aking the time to spell it out for me I am getting old and learning to code other that for my own personal use going from windows to Ubuntu isn't in my near future.21:03
tomreyndertysuoth: oh so the device wont be managed by network manager now.21:03
tomreyncan i still see those outputs again please21:04
YankDownUndertomreyn, I wonder if using "nmcli" with the "-ps" switch would show what he's looking for...?21:04
dertysuothyes one sec21:04
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24500941/21:04
YankDownUnderDynamiiic, Strange that...eh...however, have you asked in #ubuntu-server?21:04
tomreynYankDownUnder: pretty printed secrets?21:05
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24500943/21:05
Dynamiiic@YankDownUnder no i havent yet, ill try there. thanks21:05
dertysuothyank down under anything is worth trying at this point21:06
dertysuothYankDownUnder: not to step on anyones toes21:06
dertysuoththat option is unknow btw21:07
YankDownUnderdertysuoth, I have no toes.21:07
dertysuothwhat -ps switch21:07
dertysuothYankDownUnder: even better i have no wifi21:07
tomreyndertysuoth: please run "sudo ifdown wlx2c4d5404a1c9", then "sudo cp -p /etc/network/interfaces to /etc/network/interfaces.backup-20170502" and edit /etc/network/interfaces to remove all references to  wlx2c4d5404a1c9 and its configuration.21:08
tomreynthen run the same nmcli commands again21:08
dertysuothkk on sec runnign it21:08
YankDownUnderThe only reason I suggested using the "-ps" switch was because of the "hidden" networks that were listed...I used it before to get "more" information - not that I would suggest printing PUBLICLY the "secrets" of any wireless networks...however, it worked for the time I used it...so it was merely a passing thought.21:08
transhumansystem wide is there a way that works for setting CC and GCC versions(temporarily)?21:08
dertysuothkk21:09
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24500959/21:09
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24500960/21:09
dertysuothmy bad one sec i messd up that one man21:10
kazuma_desuhttps://i.imgur.com/P1j3hc5.png :(21:10
YankDownUndertranshuman, You do know that in mucking about the with the GCC of a system is going to end up breaking it badly, right?21:10
kazuma_desugnome-screenshot and thumbnails in pics for files keeps crashing https://i.imgur.com/P1j3hc5.png21:10
tomreyndertysuoth: i guess 'unavailable' points to a driver issue. but i'm new to nmcli myself so this is a bit of a puzzle for me, too.21:11
YankDownUnderkazuma_desu, Is it safe to assume you've done an update/upgrade and tried this again...?21:11
tomreyndertysuoth: what does "rfkill list" show?21:12
kazuma_desuYankDownUnder, yep, just ran sudo apt-get update and upgrade -y this morning then rebooted YankDownUnder21:12
dertysuothsorry im running your long command gimme a sec my bad21:13
tomreyndertysuoth: also,m if you don't mind loosing network connectivity on the ethernet interface for a second, please do "sudo service networking restart" and then "sudo service network-manager restart" as well and show "nmcli d" again (or just tell us which state the wireless NIC is in now.21:14
omeniushey, can anyone throw some buzzwords to google in order to make custom keyboard layout (I use both X and wayland)21:15
minimecomenius: xbindkeys21:16
dertysuothtomreyn: alright i ran the big command and the interfaces folder is empty21:17
dertysuothso now rfkill then the restart21:17
tomreyndertysuoth: cool21:18
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24500994/21:18
tomreyndertysuoth: are you juggling keyboards there or do you have an ssh connection setup to the computer where you'Re trying to get the wireless nic working?21:21
tomreynthe latter would probably be a lot easier as long as the ethernet connection works and the default route points to it21:22
dertysuothim using laptop next to the desktop im working on21:22
dertysuothi typed the restart command in and its still doing something21:22
tomreynokay, works, too, iguess.21:22
tomreynhmm that's taking too long then21:23
dertysuothtomreyn: is there a way to stop i t21:23
dertysuoth?21:23
tomreynctrl-c21:23
dertysuothkk ill enter it one more time21:23
dertysuothand see if htat works21:23
tomreyn"sudo service networking restart" is what you're running therE?21:24
YounderThat doesn't work21:24
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/2450101221:25
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24501012/21:25
dertysuothi ran both they worked this time21:25
sala_i have flash memory stick with  bootable ubuntu  and i want to format it and it is not possible to format i try gparted it is not possible any body  can help me?21:25
tomreyndertysuoth: yeay progress! it's disconnected, so managed21:25
Ben64sala_: gparted will work21:25
YankDownUnder(Is the USB unmounted?) :)21:26
tomreyndertysuoth: now "nmcli dev wifi list"21:26
dertysuothhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24501023/21:26
tomreynwohoo21:26
dertysuothgot em21:27
dertysuothok now to connect to murica21:27
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sala_Ben64: i try it  not possible21:27
Ben64sala_: it is though21:27
tomreyndertysuoth: this wont work if signal is 021:27
dertysuothohh haha21:27
dertysuoththe routers right next to it21:28
dertysuothdo you wann try anyways?21:28
tomreyndertysuoth: maybe run the same command again and see whether the signal stregngth changes21:29
tomreynand sure, you could just try21:29
dertysuothi ran it 4 times same strength that makes no sense cus its right here hah a21:29
dertysuothhow to do we add the network ?21:29
tomreynnmcli device wifi rescan21:30
tomreynto actually re-trigger a scan21:30
tomreynto configure the coinnection: nmcli device wlx2c4d5404a1c9 connect MURICA password YOURPASSWORDGOESHERE21:31
travis__Blank blu ray wasted... Small things that frustrate a guy, UBUNTU you are leaving me with a feeling that I will not be returning to you , I use to love this systembut as of late the MULTITASKING abilities of this OS have left me pissed of too many times. Hell just plain single tasking freezes have bout killed this affair we have had already now this21:32
tomreyndertysuoth: make sure the antennas are aligned to each other. maybe moving the server a little away from the router can improve things21:33
YankDownUnder*ouch*21:33
dertysuothtomreyn: it said that the device name wasnt understood21:33
tomreyndertysuoth: maybeit's just "wifi" then: nmcli device wifi connect MURICA password YOURPASSWORDGOESHERE21:34
dertysuothi think that worked21:35
tomreynnmcli connection show21:35
vagvafhello guys, I think I messed up my php installation. Any help? this is the error output I am given : https://pastebin.com/Y0w10T1s21:35
dertysuothwiat it said connection activation failed 7 secrets were required but not provided21:36
dertysuothalso router is reading 100 percent now21:37
YankDownUndervagvaf, Have you tried doing: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ==> to see if the "-f" will FIX the "installation" along with doing the necessary update/upgrade...which sometimes will resolve the "config" issues?21:38
tomreyndertysuoth: did you replace the word YOURPASSWORDGOESHERE by your actual password?21:38
dertysuothyes21:38
dertysuothhaha21:38
vagvafYankDownUnder, yes with no sucess21:38
YankDownUndervagvaf, And is it safe to assume that you've gone through the process of doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure" for PHP...?21:39
vagvafYankDownUnder, no..let me try it21:40
kojakHello I need help please21:40
vagvafYankDownUnder, i get "php7.0 is broken or not fully installed"21:41
tomreyndertysuoth: based on what i read when searching for the error message online, this may be a result of a low signalstrength / bad signal-21:41
YankDownUndervagvaf, You can use the "sudo apt-get reinstall php7.0" -> see what does produces...21:41
kojakI accidentally removed my older kernel versions after an upgrade which removed all my modules my laptop can't access internet anymore no usb/ethernet adapter works I only need to find the package that install my wifi driver and my usb/ethernet adapter driver can anybody assist me21:42
dertysuothhmm so the dongle is too close now ?21:42
dertysuothtomreyn: i am gonna move the router real fast to another part of the house21:43
dertysuothill brb21:43
vagvafYankDownUnder, "Internal Error, No file name for php7.0:amd64" :S21:44
tomreyndertysuoth: hmm i don't know. i just looked at your earlier "iwlist wlx2c4d5404a1c9 scanning" output and it showed a signal strenght of 100/100 and quality of 96/100, so very good.21:44
tomreyndertysuoth: so i guess thats not the issue21:44
kojakup please21:45
tomreyndertysuoth: the most effective thing to try would be to put the access point to a different channel. one which is not 3 or 11.21:45
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YankDownUndervagvaf, "sudo apt-get -f reinstall php7.0" (or whatever the package name is)21:45
vagvafYankDownUnder, same error..the package name is correct21:49
YankDownUndervagvaf, How was the PHP package installed in the first place - was it a standalone install - or did you get it through the repositories?21:49
vagvafYankDownUnder, through the repositories21:50
YankDownUndervagvaf, So in doing "apt search php7" - do you see the COMPLETE package name?21:50
kojakup please :(21:52
kojakI accidentally removed my older kernel versions after an upgrade which removed all my modules my laptop can't access internet anymore no usb/ethernet adapter works I only need to find the package that install my wifi driver and my usb/ethernet adapter driver can anybody assist me21:52
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dertysuothtomreyn: hey21:53
YankDownUnderkojak, So the machine (laptop) has NO connectivity...21:53
vagvafYankDownUnder, this is the output: https://pastebin.com/02B1wUAH . php7.0 is installed21:53
tomreyndertysuoth: yes?21:53
dertysuothtomreyn: hey so when i moved the router it went back to what it was doing21:54
dertysuothwhat do we have to do to get it to notice netowrks again ?21:54
YankDownUndervagvaf, ARGH...right...far out, this...far out...have you asked in #ubuntu-server yet? I don't do PHP - let alone Apache2 stuff...(it gets too overcomplicated)21:55
tomreyndertysuoth: "sudo service networking restart; sudo service network-manager restart" seemed tro help last time21:55
dertysuothwhen i try to rescan for network i get a message that says scanning not allowed while unavailable or activating21:55
dertysuothahh kk21:55
vagvafYankDownUnder, I will ask now :) thanks anyways!21:56
kojakYankDownUnder: no21:56
kojakatt all21:56
YankDownUndervagvaf, Peace, bro...hope you get yer stuff fixed...fingers crossed21:56
kojakI am from another computer21:56
kojakI rebooted on recovery mode21:56
tomreyndertysuoth: if it still dont work run: nmcli device wifi list21:56
tomreyndertysuoth: and "nmcli d"21:57
kojakI resumed the boot I end up on my environment with my data but no internet access and no modules21:57
dertysuothnmcli is device?21:58
dertysuothnmcli d is device?21:58
YankDownUnderkojak, Being that you've deleted your kernels on the existing installation - and have no backups...I can only suggest looking through the kernel drivers directories and your /etc directory for clues as to which drivers your wifi and ethernet/LAN were using...otherwise, you might consider doing an "upgrade" installation over the top of your existing installation with the hopes that the drivers will be re-installed - along with new21:58
YankDownUnderkernels and etc.21:58
tomreyndertysuoth: yes, a shorthand21:58
dertysuothtomreyn: so its showing the netowrks again21:58
dertysuoththe router is showing at 0 still21:59
kojakYankDownUnder: This is what I prepared for21:59
dertysuothand its on the second floor21:59
kojakbut it would be my last resort as I am afraid of loosing things21:59
tomreyndertysuoth: and your kernel version is?21:59
kojakMy wireless card is a broadcom21:59
dertysuoth how do i check that ?21:59
YankDownUnderkojak, Your /home won't be mucked with...however, there are other customisations that might be lost...21:59
tomreyndertysuoth: cat /proc/version22:00
kojakand I have a usb ethernet adapter with a realtek r8152 firmware22:00
YankDownUnderkojak, On this "laptop" - do you have ANY means by which to connect it to a network?22:00
dertysuothlinux version 4.10.0-20-generic22:00
kojakYankDownUnder: all that I have tried failled up till now22:01
YankDownUnderkojak, The laptop is sitting in recovery mode?22:01
kojakYankDownUnder: I rebooted with a liveusb and lsmod gave me cdc_ether usb_net r8152 mii usbcore for my usb/ethernet adapter22:01
selsper_how do I check that I have the latest/ best/ most relevant graphics driver installed???22:01
kojakyes it is22:01
YankDownUnderkojak, Have you booted to a console on the laptop?22:02
kojakyes22:02
tomreyndertysuoth: since that's >4.8 you may need to use https://github.com/paspro/rtl8814AU instead22:02
kojakYankDownUnder: but I resumed boot and it looged me through the GUI and I have everything here available22:02
kojakYankDownUnder: only the network fails22:02
YankDownUnderkojak, So if you type: sudo modprobe t8152 ==> do you get any errors or messages?22:03
dertysuothso if the machine isnt connected to the web what would u recoomend22:03
kojakyes22:03
kojakYankDownUnder: FATAL no module found in /lib/modules/...22:03
YankDownUnderkojak, Right...lack of kernel modules...22:03
kojakYankDownUnder: exactly22:03
dertysuothtomreyn: how  do you change the kernel to 8?22:04
YankDownUnderkojak, You might start to consider doing the "upgrade" installation over the top of your existing installation - remember, it won't blow away your /home directory...22:04
kojakYankDownUnder: fatal: module r8152 not found in directory /lib/modules/4.8.0-51-generic22:04
YankDownUnderkojak, Yeah...lack of kernel modules...22:04
kojakYankDownUnder: there must be a way to download this module and copy it on my laptop22:05
YankDownUnderkojak, I'm surprised that the actual ethernet/LAN is not being found...but that's a different story.22:05
kojakYankDownUnder: plus my harddirve is encrypted with luks22:05
kojakYankDownUnder: it's no native ethernet it is a USB adapter I had for those kind of emergencies22:05
tomreyndertysuoth: ubuntu 17.04 (zesty) copmes with 4.10 by default, you should probably not run it with an older kernel.22:05
dertysuothoh my bad22:06
dertysuothi am confused on what your reccomending22:06
YankDownUnderkojak, You can attempt to do so on another machine - copy it to the USB and copy it to the laptop...OR boot the laptop with the liveUSB, locate the proper packages/drivers, download them, and then "install" them after rebooting into the laptop's system (recovery)22:06
kojakYankDownUnder: I can find which package provide the module22:07
kojak*can't*22:07
kojakYankDownUnder: *can't*22:07
dertysuothtomreyn:  its reading 100 percent now22:08
YankDownUnderkojak, The smartest thing to do is what I suggested...really...overlay installation on the existing installation...22:08
dertysuothbut the connectio to it is failing22:08
dertysuothnvm it switched bacj22:08
kojakYankDownUnder: the only thing I know is theses are the needed modules cdc_ether usb_net r8152 mii usbcore22:08
gosul33they guys, I just installed ubuntu 17.04 with Gnome and am trying to fix my resolution22:09
kojakYankDownUnder: I will try one thing reboot from the usb drive and try to copy to the hard drive all the /lib somewhere22:09
tomreyndertysuoth: my gues sis that the driver you have now has stability issues on kernel versions newer than 4.8. and you have 4.10. so i would suggest to remove the driver you use now and use the driver from the github repository i linked to (which is a modified version of the driver you are using now, making it work with linux versions newer than 4.8, so it should work on your linux 4.10).22:09
gosul33tI'm using a laptop, in the Display settings, the highest is 1366x768, how can I change it to 1920x1080?22:10
tomreyndertysuoth: i think you said your brother built the other driver for you, so i suggest you ask him to build this one for you now.22:10
dertysuothtomreyn: can i do that via flash drive ?22:10
YankDownUnderkojak, I understand that...the kernel requires the modules - and requires their presence within the kernel mod tree (/var/lib/kernel blah blah blah) -> so if you wish to spend the time in building all of that from a local point, it will take time. You truly need to THINK about removing kernels and kernel sources the next time you're faced with this situation.22:10
tomreyndertysuoth: do what exactly?22:10
kojakYankDownUnder: I used the kclean alias I always used but ... completion failed ...22:11
dertysuothtomreyn: i think i got it i gave him the link and ithink hes gonna build the driver22:11
tomreyndertysuoth: alright. i guess this will help. he would probably agree that this github repository's README file hints that the original github repository would not be compatible to the kernel you use.22:13
kojakYankDownUnder: are you aware of any repair command from a liveusb ?22:13
dertysuothya haha he couldnt figure out what you did so i think this willl fix the connection issu e22:13
dertysuothwe will try this,  thank you a ton for the help22:14
YankDownUnderkojak, Yeah...reinstallation...but I digress...22:14
dertysuothwe couldnt have gotten this far without u22:14
kojakYankDownUnder: ... I am realy affraid of upgrading to 17.04 as there are known issues22:14
tomreyndertysuoth: :) glad i could hellp. take notes on how we proceeded and how we got to the point where we could almost connect. you'll need to do the same again with the new driver22:14
dertysuothcan u remind me the steps22:15
dertysuothso i can keep them stored22:15
YankDownUnderkojak, Didn't say anything about upgrading to 17.04 - what's the installation on the laptop?22:15
kojakYankDownUnder: the laptop is installed with kubuntu 16.1022:15
YounderI usually stick to the LTS versions. There is so much stuff on my machine it is a nightmare to upgrade.22:16
YankDownUnderkojak, So then you merely do a "reinstall" of 16.10 over the top of the existing 16.10...easy done.22:16
kojakI will lose all my setups22:16
kojakYankDownUnder: I will lose all my setups22:16
gsilvaptAnyone has experience using a mini displayport in Ubuntu 16.04?22:17
AndroUserhi22:17
kojakYankDownUnder: there must be a way22:17
YankDownUnderkojak, It will NOT delete your /home directory....and in all reality, you've saved data, true? Makes you think about the repercussions of deleting kernels...22:17
dertysuothtomreyn: which ones would u write down22:17
AndroUserdo know command find all file *.extension more recent per folder?22:18
gsilvaptI'm having huge issues after suspension. Like, performance issues, then computer crashes and I have to restart it manually...22:18
AndroUseri newbie22:18
kojakYankDownUnder: no backup no space to do it ... I always dealt with a small /boot by removing old kernels via an alias first time autocomplete betrays me22:18
YankDownUnderkojak, "The way" is going to be long and drawn out. If you feel so inclined to do it, bear in mind it will take time. I'm offering you a K.I.S.S. solution that WILL work regardless...either which, remember that we have to live down the mistakes we make.22:18
YounderI might mention etckeeper. The installs version control vom /etc. Can save you from a lot of trouble.22:18
AndroUseri looking command e.g. find who find file more recent per folder22:19
kojakYankDownUnder: you are right but I will lose all my host based setup and probably the kde config22:19
tomreyndertysuoth: not really. generally, remove the old driver ("lsmod; rmmod rtl8814au") and remove the drivers' files (and only those!) from /lib/modules/... then move the new driver into place and make sure it gets loaded, use "lsmod" and "modinfo rtl8814au", make sure it's the new driver version your brother built for you now.22:19
YankDownUnderkojak, That stuff is STILL on the laptop. SImply back up those files. As far as your KDE desktop configuration, as I said, the /home directory is NOT touched by the "installation"...which means that your stuff will NOT be blown out...hmm...22:20
AndroUsercan i with find to have file more recent per folder22:20
YankDownUnderkojak, And setting up all that stuff is going to take LESS time than fighting to figure out your f*kup with the kernels and drivers...true?22:21
kojakYankDownUnder: this I know but /etc files I have touched, some configs in /var some tunings left and right ...22:21
YankDownUnderkojak, COPY THEM TO A DIRECTORY AS A BACKUP. Simple. Easy done.22:21
kojakYankDownUnder: I am quite unsure... I tweaked my computer a lot it to have all the drivers working I don't remeber what to back up ...22:22
kojakYankDownUnder: I may sound stupid but I had quite a hard time to have perfectly stable with all the drivers I almost wrote a blog about it ...22:23
tomreyn!irclogs | dertysuoth22:25
ubottudertysuoth: Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/22:25
tomreynyou can folow our previous chat up there.22:26
tomreyndertysuoth: sorry that was nonsense. i meant to write: you can read up on our previous chat there.22:27
tomreyni'll be afk but back later22:27
YankDownUnderkojak, Remember this: You made a big mistake. You have to pay for the mistake you made. You can do it the easy way and roll on, or you can do it the hard way. Your choice.22:28
kojakYankDownUnder: you are 100% suppose I was on a production system I should have found a solution to recover it. Learning the hard can pay good sometimes at least I would say I have learned from my mistakes and I truely believe there must be a way to work this arround22:29
YankDownUnderkojak, IF you were on a production/live system, this would not have happened. There would be backups...and backups of backups.22:32
kojakYankDownUnder: the solution doesn't look that hard, all I need to do is mount my encrypted drive and copy /var/lib/module blablah22:32
kojakYankDownUnder: well if the backup would take 24h out plus 24h to install it and induce massive money loss that wouldn't change a thing22:33
YankDownUnderkojak, There is a way, but you're wanting to go down a rabbit hole that will cause you a heap of wasted time. Your choice. I'm not here to take you down that rabbit hole. I have things to do and folks to assist...partaking in the painful journey is NOT my idea of a nice breakfast and morning tea. :)22:33
YankDownUnderkojak, Business doesn't work like that - and neither does network administration. Restoration of a backup - modular - would generally take less than five minutes.22:34
YankDownUnderAs it does here...(two minutes, maybe?)22:34
kojakYankDownUnder: you are right on that too :) Thank you for your help in all the cases I will keep you update whether I faild or not22:34
kojakYankDownUnder: which backup solution would you recommend for me btw ?22:34
YankDownUnderkojak, For your purposes => "systemback" => it's in the repos => else you can create nice scripts - which are the better option because you can customise stuff => so using rsync and the likes WILL be your friend(s)22:42
kojakYankDownUnder: thank you. Now I am reading the doc to mount my encrypted filesystem ...22:44
saesnegcan anyone help with broadcom bluetooth issues?22:44
nathan_does autoremove/autoclean represents any danger to the stability of the system?22:45
tomreynkojak: since you got an encrypted file system, you may also want to store backups encrypted. look into duplicity. be warned that it's not the easiest solution to setup as your first backup solution though.22:46
nathan_I saw an article on the web suggesting some apps to facilitate the job of cleaning an ubuntu machine.22:46
tomreynkojak: also be aware that backups are of no use if you don'T know how to restore them targetted, quickly and efficiently and have tested that restoring them actually works.22:47
tomreynnathan_: if you're referring to apt autoclean / autoremove: no it does not.22:48
nathan_tomreyn: ok, thanks.22:48
tomreynnathan_: for the most part, ubuntu doesn't get cluttered with outdated configurations and files all over the place (thanks to package management), so there is less of a need to run software to try and guess what's safe to remove.22:49
YankDownUndernathan_, They're useful in just "housekeeping"...nothing harmful in the least.22:49
kojaktomreyn: yes indeed I need to test this22:50
nathan_I guess I should run these commands or applications only if I'm running out of space on my machine, right? Idk if its a best practice to run them regularly.22:50
irreleph4ntHi. Are you guys here supporting elementaryos as well?22:51
capum321i've installed qingy. i'm supposed to edit /etc/event.d/tty1 to make it work, which i don't have this event.d path in /etc. should this be the default?22:52
nathan_As tomreyn said, package management probably deal with this stuff alone. Well, thanks for the answers. :)22:52
YankDownUndernathan_, Here's something that I use basically in a script every day: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt -y autoremove && sudo apt -y autoclean" => just "cleans house" nicely and doesn't leave "cruft" all over the place - not that Ubuntu does in the first place, but it's nice to KNOW that the house is clean, as it were...22:52
irreleph4ntI am using elementaryos Loki (Ubuntu 16.04)with a touchscreen laptop - How do I right-clikc via touch? Long press / hold does nothing22:52
tomreynnathan_: you don't need to run them regularly, no. also you should not run out of space on the root file system. if you do, either your partitioning scheme is bad for how you use ubuntu, or there is some software which is badly configred which needs to be fixed.22:52
tomreynYankDownUnder: you can do the same using unattended-updates (except the autoclean, i think)22:54
tomreyn!elementary | irreleph4nt22:54
ubottuirreleph4nt: Elementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution.22:54
YankDownUndertomreyn, True - I still like to watch IN PERSON...(servers are a different story - I do NOT want to know anything other than they're up and running happily) :)22:54
irreleph4nttomreyn, thanks22:54
tomreyni see, you're special ;)22:55
tomreyn^ YankDownUnder22:55
capum321hello22:56
capum321could one verify if /etc/event.d exists in your own system?22:56
tomreyncapum321: you could run 'ls /etc/event.d'22:56
capum321i don't have this path22:57
capum321i've installed qingy. i'm supposed to edit /etc/event.d/tty1 to make it work, which i don't have this event.d path in /etc. should this be the default?22:57
tomreynverification complete22:57
tomreyncapum321: /etc/event.d is used by upstart, which was used in past ubuntu releases (some of which are still supported)22:59
capum321tomreyn: myself could do some research, but i am on terminal console22:59
capum321i should get some terminal browser23:00
tomreyneither that or a second computer23:00
capum321don't have second option23:00
capum321elinks right?23:00
tomreynlive / install cd also works23:00
tomreynyes, elinks is an option23:01
tomreyndont run as root23:01
capum321ok23:01
ecdhe!trusty23:01
ubottuUbuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ - CHECK FOR POINT RELEASES at http://releases.ubuntu.com - Release Info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes23:01
tomreyn(the same goes for irc, cough, cough)23:02
kojakYankDownUnder: what's the prefered ubuntu installation method to have least amount of software installed by default (is it using lubuntu then incrementally adding packages?) or a la debian via netinstall/server version (warnings ahead about power consumption)23:05
capum321great advice23:05
kojaktomreyn: what's the prefered ubuntu installation method to have least amount of software installed by default (is it using lubuntu then incrementally adding packages?) or a la debian via netinstall/server version (warnings ahead about power consumption)23:05
YankDownUnderkojak, lubuntu or xubuntu are great for "minimal"...for YOU? Yes...that would be a good option...23:06
tomreynkojak: netinstall / server to install few packages, debootstrap for possibly even fewer. but reducing the amount of installed software is not the same as reducing the amount of running software.23:06
tomreyn...or how much resources the running software consumes.23:07
tomreyn...or which software you choose (opver others) to run.23:07
AndroUserhi23:08
Bashing-omkojak: If ya really desire lean and mean - and are handy with the package management system; consider a minimal install.23:08
Bashing-om!minimal | kojak23:08
ubottukojak: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD23:08
tomreynNote this hint: "While the minimal iso image is handy, it isn't useful for installing on UEFI-based systems that you want to run in UEFI mode."23:09
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kojaktomreyn: very good point about uefi23:16
kojakBashing-om: thanks23:17
kojakYankDownUnder: thanks23:17
YankDownUnderkojak, Peace bro.23:17
Bashing-omkojak: :) Every dark cloud has a silver lining - so my Grand Mother told me .23:20
YankDownUnder"Every obstacle is actually a challenge and a lesson."23:20
kojakYankDownUnder: you are definitely right!23:20
YankDownUnderkojak, Perception is everything.23:21
kojakYankDownUnder: it's the moment of truth for me :)23:21
YankDownUnderkojak, I've made many mistakes in the past 30+ years...and fortunately have learned from SOME...23:23
danjayay bolllocks23:23
kojakYankDownUnder: I also did and I have one I particularly regret23:23
YankDownUnderkojak, Therefore, perceiving everything in a positive light creates a better path towards learning - and keeps the mind open.23:24
capum321hello since i don't have a login manager in this minimal installation (just base system + with few tweaks already) how to, after login in tty1, the system starts the session i installed automatically as lined out help.ubuntu.com/community/qingy23:25
kojakYankDownUnder: I realy should stick to this moral every single day of my life23:25
bazhang!ot | kojak YankDownUnder23:26
ubottukojak YankDownUnder: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:26
YankDownUndercapum321, Not sure I understand23:26
capum321hello since i don't have a login manager in this minimal installation (just base system + with few tweaks already) how to, after login in tty1, the system starts the session automatically as lined out help.ubuntu.com/community/qingy23:26
capum321sorry23:26
capum321YankDownUnder: do you understand qingy?23:27
kojakbazhang: sorry for disgressing23:27
YankDownUndercapum321, Looking...23:27
analyserhey guys, anyone knows a tool to compare text files (like diff, vimdiff, etc) that is capable of doing of revision like word? I mean, accepting/declining each modifications?23:27
selsper_gedit?23:28
capum321YankDownUnder: I want to make it work under 17.04 (my system doens't have /etc/event.d) or use some other method23:28
analyserselsper_: gedit does it?23:28
selsper_probably not23:29
selsper_been here 3 weeks trying to get runescape client operantional23:29
analyserselsper_: afaik I agree23:29
YankDownUndercapum321, 17.04? Mate...sorry...that's "too new" for my taste and experience. LTS releases is another story. I am looking at "qingy" - the Community pages - and yes, I understand the principle - what I don't fully understand is where you're at and what you're having an issue with aside from the /etc/event.d bits...23:29
YankDownUndercapum321, And I'm looking at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/qingy23:30
capum321Yank i don't have /etc/event.d/*  tty's to edit23:30
capum321do you understand now?23:31
YankDownUndercapum321, On 16.04 it's in /etc/apm/event.d23:31
capum321let me check23:31
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capum321no, i have apparmor apparmor.d and apt23:32
capum321so i should use other method?23:32
YankDownUndercapum321, The "ttyX" that "appears" to be referenced for "qingy" are in /etc/init/ => tty1 and above...as in "tty1.conf" - but in looking at "qingy" it doesn't appear to be the same reference...23:33
YankDownUndercapum321, The page referenced was also LAST updated in 2015.23:34
YankDownUndercapum321, In looking at: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qingy => I'm trying to find/locate exactly where the edits to "ttyX" are supposed to be - as they're not where you are looking...but they'd still have to be pertinent to the system - as the package was built for 17.0423:37
selsperhey guys I'm wondering if you could troubleshoot this issue I'm having23:37
selsperhttp://i.imgur.com/33JFC0r.jpg23:37
capum321ok that's great23:37
bazhangselsper, dont do that here23:38
YankDownUndercapum321, Patience...I'm downloading the source code to read the "README" (imagine that!)23:39
selsper_k23:39
YankDownUndercapum321, According to the README in the source code, ANY and ALL configurations are in /etc/qingy...23:40
kojakYankDownUnder: Guess what : it worked !!!!!23:42
YankDownUndercapum321, I'd honestly suggest emailing the dev for "better installation instructions" as the ones provided aren't quite, well, "clear as mud" => Michele Noberasco <michele.noberasco@tiscali.it>23:44
YankDownUnderkojak, Buy yourself a donut. A vegetarian donut. With no meat. And a coffee.23:44
elkyselsper_: if you've been trying here for 3 weeks without luck then you should probably look at different places to get help instead of memeing at us23:46
selsper_well23:46
selsper_i did23:46
selsper_hence the meme23:46
selsper_not the sort of trolly wollop to try in once place and then complain23:47
elkyselsper_: such as their actual forums.23:47
selsper_wat23:48
selsper_i did post their23:48
elkyselsper_: runescape has forums23:48
selsper_yeah i know23:48
selsper_been on them since 12 yrs ffs23:48
elkyselsper_: so why would you think that a linux distro support channel would know better?23:48
selsper_omg23:48
selsper_w/e23:48
selsper_so done with trolls23:49
* elky raises an eyebrow23:49
selsper_there*23:50
kojakYankDownUnder: I am back23:50
rizonzcan anyone tell me what package contains the perl module URI::Escape ?23:51
daxrizonz: liburl-perl23:52
daxrizonz: liburi-perl *23:52
rizonzdax: all in ?23:53
daxrizonz: the list of files in liburi-perl is http://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/all/liburi-perl/filelist . It includes URI::Escape.23:53
kojakYankDownUnder: thank you for your help and for your words :)23:54
kojakand thanks to all other who assisted23:54
rizonzdax: thanks!23:54

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